Valuetainment - July 10, 2026


＂I Feel Unsafe＂ - American Flags Left Sunny Hostin Feeling Scared


Episode Stats


Length

10 minutes

Words per minute

187.78

Word count

1,943

Sentence count

104

Harmful content

Misogyny

14

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Toxicity

15

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Hate speech

8

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Summary

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On this episode of , Pat McAfee and Sarah Palin are joined by comedian Sonny Huston to talk about the idea that the American flag is a symbol of white supremacy. They also discuss the fact that Sonny grew up in a family of slave owners.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 The view Sonny Hostin claims American flags make her feel unsafe.
00:00:04.740 I don't know if you've seen this clip. 0.96
00:00:06.320 Well, she's living in the wrong country. 0.64
00:00:08.060 When she sees the American flag, and this is flags that we're talking about.
00:00:12.080 She feels very unsafe if you want to play this clip.
00:00:14.440 Go ahead.
00:00:17.780 And I said this on this show many, many years ago,
00:00:20.920 because this is my 10th year on the show,
00:00:22.200 and I said there are times when I walk into a community
00:00:24.960 and I see American flags all over the community,
00:00:29.420 And I suddenly feel unsafe because there is a section of this country that's co-opted the American flag and they equate being an American or an American flag with white supremacy.
00:00:40.920 And that should never be the symbol of white supremacy.
00:00:44.860 But they have weaponized. 1.00
00:00:48.280 That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. 1.00
00:00:50.540 That is the single dumbest thing I have ever heard, Pat, if I could jump in on this one. 0.99
00:00:55.620 you're saying that the american flag is synonymous with white supremacy maybe if someone's waving the 0.99
00:01:01.960 confederate flag or a nazi flag or maybe a weird tranny flag out there then we can have this 0.99
00:01:07.760 conversation the american flag which light is it on right here stop it sonny your your brain has 0.74
00:01:13.160 melted to the point where you think the american flag is a hate symbol that's where you're at 0.98
00:01:18.220 these days first to me it's so dumb because my ears i i thought she said american something else 0.96
00:01:24.400 I didn't think it was flag. 0.58
00:01:25.140 You thought I was missing the L?
00:01:26.480 The only L that is going on here is Sonny Austin.
00:01:29.920 At first I was like, how was the LGBT community responding to this?
00:01:31.720 She was afraid of Richard Simmons.
00:01:33.220 But she was talking about flag, the American flag.
00:01:38.220 Countries have flags.
00:01:40.460 And by the way, when you see a house, you're driving in a community,
00:01:43.820 and you see an American flag, what percentage of the time do you say
00:01:47.080 that's a conservative family right there?
00:01:48.880 Oh, at this point it's 100%, and it shouldn't be that chance.
00:01:51.260 It should be 50-50.
00:01:52.360 Yeah.
00:01:52.540 But unfortunately, the Republican Party is synonymous with patriots.
00:01:56.220 When I see an American flag, I tell myself there's an 80% chance that's a conservative's house.
00:02:04.300 Because conservatives are more willing to represent the flag than liberals are.
00:02:09.100 It is so embarrassing.
00:02:11.040 We're like, yeah, you know what, I'm not really that proud.
00:02:16.140 I'm not really that proud when I see an American flag.
00:02:18.700 Stop it, man.
00:02:19.640 And just be proud of, and this is around 4th of July when you're saying this.
00:02:24.160 And she knows better.
00:02:25.480 And by the way, didn't they do something with her ancestry that they found out that her family owned slaves? 1.00
00:02:32.640 Pat!
00:02:33.260 Yes, they did. 0.99
00:02:34.360 And she was like, oh my God, that's, I didn't know that. 1.00
00:02:37.020 Her family were slave owners.
00:02:38.240 And she was like, not even, she's like, there's no way that's true.
00:02:41.420 There's no way that's true.
00:02:42.340 Which one is it, Sonny Huston? 0.50
00:02:43.960 She descends for slave.
00:02:45.180 Want to go play, press play on this one? 0.70
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00:03:17.260 Wow.
00:03:20.300 Wow.
00:03:21.260 I'm a little bit in shock.
00:03:23.380 I just always thought of myself as Puerto Rican.
00:03:25.820 You know, half Puerto Rican.
00:03:27.420 I didn't think I was...
00:03:29.280 My family was originally from Spain and slaveholders.
00:03:34.940 So how are you feeling?
00:03:36.660 I feel unsafe around you.
00:03:38.100 Al Gore has a book for you.
00:03:39.640 Actually pretty interesting that my husband and I have shared roots.
00:03:45.160 Yeah.
00:03:45.300 so i i do appreciate that um and i think it's great for our children to know this information
00:03:52.120 um i guess it's a fact of life that uh this is how awkward changes the narrative
00:03:59.380 changes the narrative wow family were slave owners slave owners right so i mean you always
00:04:06.880 have to show the two clips together so your family you know like the proper way to introduce
00:04:12.040 is the descendants of slave owners
00:04:14.140 Sonny Hostin, the descendants of slave owners
00:04:16.140 the descendants of slave owners
00:04:17.500 a descendant of a slave owner 1.00
00:04:19.680 I mean just stop
00:04:21.060 you know the part when you walk around 1.00
00:04:24.060 like your crap don't stink 1.00
00:04:25.500 like you're better than everybody else and you know what's right 1.00
00:04:28.040 and this holier than thou BS
00:04:30.100 knock it off
00:04:31.600 knock it off 0.97
00:04:33.780 and sport an American flag if you live in America
00:04:36.120 what are we showing by the way
00:04:37.120 is that a house for sale
00:04:38.120 is it a glass house
00:04:41.860 by any chance? Well, Pat, in regard to your story
00:04:43.680 about the mice, she might have
00:04:45.780 slaves then, because if that's coming down 0.98
00:04:47.640 from generation, she might have 1.00
00:04:49.820 some slaves in the basement because of the mice 1.00
00:04:51.680 situation. I don't think she owns slaves.
00:04:53.960 Can I give you some data, P.B.D.,
00:04:55.640 because you alluded to this? What's that?
00:04:58.260 I'm just going to give you some data. There was some recent
00:04:59.700 polling out there. I think it was from Gallup.
00:05:01.260 93% of Republicans
00:05:03.420 are extremely proud to be American.
00:05:05.920 Only 1% of Republicans
00:05:07.520 said they had little pride
00:05:09.520 in America. Conversely,
00:05:11.860 only 27% of Democrats and liberals are extremely proud to be American.
00:05:17.700 In fact, 36% have little pride to be an American.
00:05:22.300 There's a problem on the left with patriotism,
00:05:24.520 and it's not getting any better.
00:05:26.900 But you know what, Lee, and here's the thing,
00:05:28.820 because that's all the view, 1.00
00:05:29.980 and no wonder why so many of these middle-aged liberal women 1.00
00:05:32.880 are just angry and bitter, 1.00
00:05:34.880 because they're sitting home watching this disgusting show. 0.98
00:05:38.360 is just all negative, anti-man, anti-America, anti-everything. 0.93
00:05:43.740 And the thing is, you love this place
00:05:46.320 with your million-dollar houses and everything.
00:05:49.540 It's as if, Pat, if I complain that much about this country,
00:05:53.180 I would expect you, as my friend, all of you,
00:05:55.360 to be like, Vinny, maybe you should leave.
00:05:57.560 Maybe you should get with all your money.
00:05:59.780 No, Adam, I'm dead serious.
00:06:01.080 Go somewhere where you're happy.
00:06:02.940 You're clearly not happy here. 0.95
00:06:04.500 Rosie O'Donnell at least had the, you know, bravery, I don't want to say the word, to leave. 1.00
00:06:10.940 Yeah, she's coming back to make more money on the show, but just get the hell out of here. 0.99
00:06:15.400 Nobody's holding you hostage.
00:06:17.100 You're not a slave here.
00:06:18.700 Honey, hostage.
00:06:20.100 Yeah, they have no historical perspective.
00:06:22.580 Hey, PBD, I want to point out a fact for you.
00:06:24.620 Do you remember when you debated all the kids on Jubilee and you found out how much it cost to renounce your citizenship?
00:06:30.940 Do you remember the cost?
00:06:31.740 It was $25.
00:06:33.580 They lowered it.
00:06:34.500 They lured it to $2,450 or something like that.
00:06:36.740 It used to be $2,400.
00:06:38.020 Congratulations, everybody hates America.
00:06:39.360 They've reduced the price to $450.
00:06:42.220 Talk about save that money.
00:06:43.440 If you want to leave the country, now's a great time to get a great deal on a one-way trip out of here.
00:06:48.780 Let me tell you this story.
00:06:49.700 It's one of the best stories.
00:06:50.500 Parents, this is very important for you and I to think about.
00:06:53.840 There's a reason why I keep talking about the future looks bright.
00:06:56.940 In 2013, they did a study at Emory University.
00:07:00.140 A guy named Brian Diaz and Kerry Ressler did a study.
00:07:03.440 identifying to see if we pass our fears down to our kids without us even knowing about it
00:07:09.920 so they took a group of male mice and they gave it acetophenone and every time this is cherry
00:07:17.120 blossom you know smell every time they release this smell they would zap them with this pain
00:07:23.880 like whoa what was that five minutes later they released that smell again zap them again the pain
00:07:30.100 Whoa.
00:07:31.140 Five minutes ago.
00:07:31.880 And they kept doing this with only male mice they were experimenting on.
00:07:36.420 Eventually, they did this for a few days, maybe a week, week and a half.
00:07:40.280 Then they took those same mice that now have tied fear to acetophenol,
00:07:46.380 the smell, cherry blossom.
00:07:48.440 Then they put it in a room for them to mate with female mice.
00:07:53.060 So then they mate.
00:07:54.300 So these guys now have kids.
00:07:55.820 then they take the mice the male mice the father away from the baby okay then they take the babies
00:08:02.380 and they put other female mice and they mate okay then they put the grandkids in a complete
00:08:07.900 different thing so you're with me so i got you yep the grandfather fears the smell of acetophenone
00:08:12.780 and he got zapped he got zapped every time great then his kids and then his grandkids the grandkids
00:08:19.560 have never met grandfather before gotcha they put him in a place and all of a sudden they sprayed
00:08:25.060 the cherry blossom these grandkids were frightened frightened because that fear from the grandfather
00:08:33.860 had passed down to the grandkids genetically and they've never been zapped and they've never been
00:08:38.600 zapped oh wow so what does this mean yesterday we're at the beach and i'm watching how happy
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00:08:52.680 at her and she's just happy she's happy playing in the sand she's happy running around daddy take
00:08:59.020 me take me take me in the water it's cold no no don't put me in the water daddy daddy take me take
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