Valuetainment - July 23, 2026


“I’m F—-ing Terrified” - Economist REFUSED To Have Kids Over Climate Change


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00:00:30.000 It's tough when we get older to talk about the mistakes we made earlier.
00:00:34.100 What advice would you give to young men?
00:00:36.100 Like, you know, being where you are right now and, you know, you've seen a lot.
00:00:39.620 You've been all over the world.
00:00:40.540 You've had some ideas.
00:00:41.780 Maybe some of them became right.
00:00:43.220 Maybe some of them you got wrong.
00:00:45.160 What feedback would you give to young men?
00:00:47.260 Young men are very confused today.
00:00:48.580 What advice would you give to young 16-, 17-, 18-year-old men?
00:00:52.180 Well, given the fact that I expect climate change to cause the social system to collapse, I'd say learn how to hunt.
00:00:58.500 I hate to say.
00:01:00.000 Um, but you all of a sudden became an optimist.
00:01:02.740 That was a, so we went back to the pessimist.
00:01:05.540 You think, so you, you don't think the future looks bright.
00:01:08.080 No, I don't think it looks.
00:01:08.920 Oh my God.
00:01:09.580 That's scary.
00:01:10.420 So you think it looks catastrophic.
00:01:12.340 Yes.
00:01:12.800 By the way, did you ever end up having kids or no?
00:01:15.660 No.
00:01:16.160 My first wife was, uh, had a disease called endometriosis. 1.00
00:01:19.720 She was infertile. 0.99
00:01:20.760 My second wife was far too old. 0.99
00:01:22.220 My third wife already has three kids.
00:01:24.740 Yeah.
00:01:24.920 And if, if you were 25 today, would you have kids today?
00:01:28.720 No.
00:01:30.000 Wow. Man, they really got a hold of you.
00:01:34.380 No, reality got a hold of me.
00:01:36.240 Come on. I can see inside of you there's the sense of humor, lighthearted, fun, positive side, but they got a hold of you.
00:01:46.300 No, what's got me a hold of me is facts, okay? 0.94
00:01:50.320 I've read massively in the climate change literature as well and work with climate scientists, and I can see what they're seeing coming, and I'm fucking terrified.
00:01:59.140 and the last thing I want to do is have a child 0.87
00:02:01.360 to log through what I think is going to come
00:02:03.160 away in the next decade. Did you see the recent
00:02:05.220 report that came out? I don't know if you saw
00:02:07.140 this recent. I'll show it to you. Please
00:02:08.800 I don't want you to lose your 0.99
00:02:11.280 shit and get upset at me. This is a report that 1.00
00:02:13.240 came out here. I'm just going to read it to you and I
00:02:15.140 want you to react to it any way you want
00:02:17.180 and tear it apart if you want to.
00:02:19.220 But this is from Department of Energy
00:02:21.460 that just came out
00:02:22.740 and it says, this is from
00:02:24.820 the website energy.gov. Guys
00:02:27.220 I just texted you the link if you want to go to
00:02:29.100 you have it you i just literally texted it to you department of energy issues report evaluating
00:02:34.580 impact of greenhouse gases on u.s climate and invites public comment and one of the things
00:02:41.980 they said here is the the severe concern that they had if you read this entire report i'm not
00:02:49.040 going to read the entire report to you yeah it was overly exaggerated on how bad climate change
00:02:55.620 is going to be for the last few decades and this is coming from the state uh do you agree with this 0.99
00:03:02.360 report and have you had a chance to look at the total bullshit total bullshit and i can tell you 0.98
00:03:06.040 why tell me okay this is what economists have said this is william northouse and if i had to have 0.99
00:03:11.520 anybody blamed for the state of the what i expect to be the state of the planet in the next 10 years
00:03:15.840 is william northouse uh his work on climate change is why we've done so little about climate change
00:03:21.680 and trivialise the dangers. Now, to give you one example of why he said climate change wasn't
00:03:26.540 dangerous, when he first tried to quantify the impact of climate change on the economy,
00:03:30.420 this is back in 1991, he said that his prediction was that three degrees of warming by 2100 would
00:03:37.360 reduce GDP in 2100 by one quarter of 1% compared to what it would have been if there's absolutely
00:03:44.180 no global warming at all. Now, one quarter of 1% means that the impact of three degrees of warming
00:03:50.140 would be to reduce the annual rate of economic growth
00:03:52.380 by one-fortieth of the precision
00:03:55.100 with which we currently measure it.
00:03:56.540 So we currently, you know, you get reports,
00:03:58.540 GDP is risen 2.1%, 2.2%, so you work in a 0.1%.
00:04:03.640 He said a 0.025 impact, which is so true.
00:04:07.880 You can't even measure it.
00:04:08.860 Can you say who said this?
00:04:10.580 William Nordhaus, the guy who got the Nobel Prize
00:04:12.600 for his work on climate change in 2018.
00:04:15.720 Now, as part of that, he assumed that a roof
00:04:18.720 would protect you from climate change, okay? So you mistook weather for climate change,
00:04:23.640 weather for climate. And that's the basis of all the low predictions you're seeing right now,
00:04:28.580 all coming out of economists. And they have literally pretended that you can use data
00:04:34.400 about the impact of temperature on GDP across the planet today to predict what's going to happen
00:04:40.140 out of global warming over time. And that is completely mistaking what rising temperatures
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00:05:53.300 So you don't side with what they're saying here.
00:05:55.220 Let me just read it to you to fire you up a little bit.
00:05:57.160 It says the report challenges the mainstream view on climate change, arguing that climate risk may be overstated.
00:06:02.480 The benefits of emissions cuts may be smaller than advertised.
00:06:06.080 And the economic costs of aggressive climate policies deserve greater scrutiny. 0.99
00:06:10.560 So you're for, you know, you side with the Al Gores of the world. 1.00
00:06:15.980 You side with the AOCs of the world. 0.99
00:06:17.860 You side with the people.
00:06:18.740 I side with the scientists.
00:06:20.600 You side with the scientists.
00:06:21.880 Scientists have done a lot of things wrong in the past as well, right?
00:06:25.380 Well, mate, you're talking to me through something invented by a scientist.
00:06:28.320 You're seeing me through something invented by a scientist.
00:06:30.560 By capitalists.
00:06:31.280 I would say by an entrepreneur, right?
00:06:33.940 Entrepreneurs don't have engineering degrees.
00:06:36.180 If an entrepreneur doesn't have an engineering degree,
00:06:37.780 where he can't make something that involves engineering or science.
00:06:40.320 It isn't the entrepreneur.
00:06:41.380 It's the knowledge levels that we have,
00:06:43.680 and we don't give enough respect to scientists.
00:06:47.240 Yeah, those are engineers to me, but they also get things wrong.
00:06:51.080 I mean, it's not like to put here and sit there.
00:06:53.060 So let me ask this.
00:06:54.260 So for you, you're not optimistic about the future.
00:06:57.780 You wouldn't have kids today if you were 25.
00:07:02.260 So, okay, so then why have kids?
00:07:06.620 Why get married?
00:07:07.520 Why buy a house? 0.91
00:07:08.760 Why have a career?
00:07:10.040 Why create Rival, the company that you're building?
00:07:12.180 Why buy your product?
00:07:13.100 If we're going to die anyways, let's all be negative.
00:07:15.700 Let's not go to the website.
00:07:16.880 Let's not support Patreon.
00:07:18.360 I want to change our direction.
00:07:20.460 I think you can't change direction if people believe there's no threat on the road you're on.
00:07:24.780 Now, you're saying there's no threat, so there's no need to change our behavior.
00:07:27.640 I'm saying there is.
00:07:30.440 Okay, that's a good pushback.
00:07:32.280 So maybe help me with what you think the right solution is and how much of it is on free market people and how much of it is on the state to fix it.
00:07:40.860 A lot of it's actually on economists, period, to making the mistake of not understanding what global warming actually means.
00:07:47.820 So I don't blame the state or the private sector so much.
00:07:52.080 I blame economists barging into an area where they know nothing about and producing numbers which convince politicians because they're used to taking advice from economists.
00:08:01.380 and they trust them, they should not.
00:08:03.340 So economists have fooled us to believe global warming
00:08:05.940 is a trivial challenge.
00:08:07.000 It's actually an existential challenge.
00:08:09.680 And on that front, like there was a survey.
00:08:13.220 I'll give you an idea of how different economists are
00:08:15.360 from scientists on this front.
00:08:16.780 There was a survey done of climate economists in 2020.
00:08:20.320 They surveyed about 2,500 people,
00:08:22.640 about 380 answered a question saying,
00:08:25.100 what do they think is going to happen to a GDP
00:08:27.300 if we hit seven degrees of global warming by 2220?
00:08:31.380 so two centuries away the average answer those economists gave with gdp to be 25 smaller at
00:08:37.700 seven degrees of global warming than it would be if there's no global warming at all now you talk
00:08:42.580 to climate scientists and they say that anything more than five degrees of global warming probably
00:08:47.700 means humans won't continue to exist on the planet it's existential so a scientist is saying
00:08:54.260 anything more than three degrees is catastrophic five degrees is so they're beyond catastrophic
00:08:58.740 including existential risks. Economists think that seven degrees of warming are reduced GDP
00:09:03.580 by 25%. They're totally different predictions, obviously. It's a damn good idea to find out
00:09:13.940 which one's based on realism. Having looked at what the economists have done, they're completely
00:09:17.560 based on fantasy. But unfortunately, most people don't know that, so they take economists'
00:09:21.920 arguments seriously. I'm sure that's what that Department of Energy document you've got there
00:09:26.340 is doing. And I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them. Yeah. I'm going to push back a
00:09:33.800 little bit and please feel free to do what you do best. So, you know, do your thing. I'm enjoying
00:09:37.640 this banter. Don't you think a, a, an element of economists or pro climate change, global warming,
00:09:46.620 fear porn, all this stuff that maybe, maybe they believe what they're saying. Don't you think a
00:09:51.400 part of it is if all of a sudden that solution didn't exist, they don't have a job. Let me
00:09:56.120 unpack. And then, you know, I want to hear from you. I'm in the insurance space. In the insurance
00:10:02.140 space, there's such things as actuaries. Okay. And actuaries, you know, most of them, they make
00:10:08.400 very good money. They make a few hundred thousand dollars. It's a very, very high paying job.
00:10:12.460 And these reinsurance companies were hired on left and right, and they get a job. But recently,
00:10:17.300 the last five years, AI can pretty much do 99% of what they do. And the 1% is their opinion
00:10:24.760 or their intuition and their gut is, I think this is table D.
00:10:28.280 I think this is table C.
00:10:29.640 I think we're going to approve them at this.
00:10:31.380 And it's just kind of more, you know, what they think about it.
00:10:33.840 It reminds me of the old story, which is this one guy goes and hooks up
00:10:40.580 with the king's daughter.
00:10:41.980 The king is furious, and he hooks up with her in his castle.
00:10:45.700 So he's even more furious. 1.00
00:10:47.300 He sends his soldiers to go kill this guy. 0.88
00:10:50.620 Now, this guy is a psychic, and he predicts the future. 0.95
00:10:55.560 So when the soldiers come to kill him, he says, look, before you kill me,
00:11:00.720 I have one prediction that the king needs to know.
00:11:04.220 It's very important to him.
00:11:06.460 So they call the king.
00:11:08.760 The king says, come on down.
00:11:10.020 Let's talk.
00:11:10.700 Of course, this is a fictional story, but I'm just sharing the story with you. 0.54
00:11:14.080 He goes to the king, and the king says, what's your prediction before I kill you?
00:11:18.540 He says, I have one prediction for you. 0.63
00:11:20.100 what's that? You're going to die a day after I die. The king says, what did you say? He says, 0.99
00:11:28.040 you're going to die a day after I die. And the king says, shit, this guy's made some predictions 1.00
00:11:33.380 in the past before. He puts him in the castle, gives him to his daughter, lives there, well-fed 1.00
00:11:39.120 everything. And of course the king died before he died, but that was his way of saying, let me
00:11:43.240 scare the shit out of everybody to make sure you know me. Don't you think there's a little bit of 0.96
00:11:47.540 that going on with climate change? No, I don't. You want me to unpack why? Please. Okay. What
00:11:54.840 would be the temperature of the planet, do you think, if there was zero carbon dioxide in the
00:11:59.980 atmosphere? Tell me. Minus 14 degrees Celsius. And of course, it wouldn't stay at minus 14. It
00:12:07.220 would hit minus 100 because the whole planet would be covered in ice and it would then reflect
00:12:11.140 solar energy back into outer space. So the fact that the temperature, the average temperature
00:12:15.020 is not minus 14, but plus 14.
00:12:17.400 I might have had the first number wrong.
00:12:18.880 The second is pretty,
00:12:20.000 I think mine is minus 15 degrees or minus 11,
00:12:22.080 something minus 11 to minus 15 degrees.
00:12:24.860 That's the temperature we'd have
00:12:26.420 if we didn't have carbon dioxide
00:12:27.820 and other greenhouse gases,
00:12:29.500 particularly water vapor,
00:12:32.420 capturing photons bouncing off the surface
00:12:35.340 and going back into outer space.
00:12:37.720 The temperature would be that much lower.
00:12:39.560 So without global warming,
00:12:40.680 we wouldn't have a civilization at all.
00:12:42.320 We wouldn't have life on the planet.
00:12:43.480 so global warming is necessary to have a biosphere that can support life now as we increase the
00:12:50.380 amount of carbon dioxide of course we're increasing that temperature and the sort of thinking which
00:12:54.720 you all caught up in and this is what economists have done as well is they've said look it's you
00:12:59.320 people live at minus seven degrees in the arctic and they live at plus 35 in the tropics that's a
00:13:05.040 huge range of temperatures global warming is only going to increase temperature by two or three
00:13:08.880 degrees. What's that in terms of across the space of the planet? I'm doing a cartoon right now. You
00:13:14.520 might actually want to take a look at the cartoon because I'm trying to get across why this is
00:13:17.440 completely wrong thinking because we're talking about temperature across space and we know this
00:13:22.840 huge range. We think, you know, what's a few degrees across space? It doesn't mean anything
00:13:26.620 at all. But if you look at where we came from as a species, we evolved about 300,000 years ago
00:13:31.920 and about 12,000 years ago, we started to develop civilization. The reason we started developing
00:13:38.200 civilization about 12,000 to 15,000 years ago was because the planet goes through cycles that are
00:13:43.960 called Milankovitch cycles after the person who first discovered them. And they're pulses in the
00:13:49.440 average temperature of the planet caused by changes in the orbit of the planet around the sun,
00:13:53.420 the inclination, and so on. So roughly every 100,000 years, we've got a cold period and a
00:13:59.340 hot period. The cold period lasts about 80,000 years, which is an ice age. The warm period lasts
00:14:04.800 about 10,000 to 20,000 years, and that's what we're in right now, which we call the Holocene.
00:14:09.580 So if we go back just 20,000 years, we find the temperature of the planet was about seven
00:14:15.540 degrees colder than it is now. So the average temperature of the planet during the ice age
00:14:20.020 was about plus seven degrees Celsius. So going from plus seven degrees to plus 14 degrees
00:14:26.520 is what enabled us to build our agricultural systems. Now, if we hadn't built industrial
00:14:31.740 civilization, we would have gone back down again into the next ice age. So at the moment,
00:14:36.840 temperatures are falling. The natural temperature of the planet is declining. And if that kept up,
00:14:41.400 we'd go back and lose another six degrees, six or seven degrees cooler. We'd go back to an ice
00:14:48.020 age and that would destroy our civilizations. So tiny variations across time, like six degrees,
00:14:53.420 not tiny, but six degrees is the difference between an ice age when Chicago is beneath a
00:15:00.980 kilometre of ice, and today we're, you know, Chicago's an industrial powerhouse. That's how
00:15:08.300 sensitive temperature is through time. It's far more sensitive to time than it is to space. But
00:15:14.400 what economists have done is said, oh, it's not particularly sensitive across space, so why should
00:15:18.960 it be sensitive across time? They're completely ignorant of the dynamics that give us the change
00:15:24.380 in temperature over time, and that's why it's so dangerous to trivialise what we're going through.
00:15:28.960 Yeah, I think for me, I sit there and I watch human behavior on what we do.
00:15:35.960 And again, this is my opinion on what I think happens is, you know, I'm in Florida.
00:15:40.840 So right now by 2030, you know, they're wanting us to lift.
00:15:46.700 I live on the water.
00:15:47.540 They're wanting us to lift the edge to the intercoastal two feet higher, right?
00:15:52.400 So because why is that happening?
00:15:54.020 It kind of validates to your point where why are they doing that in Florida?
00:15:57.680 because the climate and all this other stuff, but people are still, actuaries and underwriters
00:16:06.080 are still underwriting homes on water, and they're still getting the insurance, and the
00:16:11.340 insurance companies are not going to give insurance if they didn't feel in the next decade,
00:16:16.180 two, three decades, something's going to happen.
00:16:17.720 There's just not a good business plan for them to be able to do it.
00:16:20.180 Now, don't get me wrong.
00:16:21.320 Some of the insurance companies in America have left the state of California, and they've
00:16:26.020 just flat out says, I'm out.
00:16:27.680 And their reasoning for leaving is like, I think Geico left.
00:16:30.140 I think State Farm left.
00:16:31.380 Somebody can fact check this to see one of those farmers left.
00:16:34.440 And a part of it is the fires that happens there.
00:16:37.200 So insurance companies won't stay somewhere if they can't make the money.
00:16:42.340 And so I don't know.
00:16:43.080 I think on the climate change side, I do agree.
00:16:44.980 I think they went from global warming and they said, well, it's probably not the good name.
00:16:49.380 Let's change it to climate change.
00:16:50.520 Kind of like how we used to be pro-death to pro-choice.
00:16:55.520 Pro-choice is probably a better word than pro-death back in the days campaign-wise, politically.
00:16:59.700 But I also watched what BlackRock did, what that ESG concept was that kind of went away from it.
00:17:04.600 Who knows? It may make a comeback. It may make a comeback.
00:17:06.880 But my bigger concern is that a lot of a 20-year-old Steve Keen went to a university with the aspirations of being a tennis player.
00:17:19.700 And some Marxists got a hold of him.
00:17:23.240 He read Das Kapital and then read Communist Manifesto.
00:17:27.140 Instead, he could have competed against Jimmy Connors.
00:17:29.460 Not Connors.
00:17:30.300 Connors 10 years before you, I think, right?
00:17:32.980 I think Connors is younger.
00:17:34.960 But who knows?
00:17:36.100 You may have played against some of these guys.
00:17:38.740 But I worry, respectfully, I worry that there's millions of 18, 20-year-old youngs,
00:17:45.900 next Steve Keens, that may have people around them that have maybe a little bit of the framing
00:17:51.900 like you that are negative about the future and that may scare the crap out of them to not want
00:17:58.680 to pursue it because they're thinking the end of the world is around the corner i think that is a 0.59
00:18:02.320 bigger damage than the risk of climate change and i think by tenfold it's a bigger damage you you're
00:18:08.420 probably going to disagree with it of course i am i know you are you have to you don't have a choice
00:18:13.120 but to disagree with it because what is the alternative wrong okay the alternative see we
00:18:18.420 don't realize how fragile life on this planet is. And there's arrogance to believe we can do
00:18:24.640 anything we like to the planet and we won't come back and bite us. Now, that arrogance is going to
00:18:29.500 kill us. And so it's arrogance and not understanding the actual dynamics of the system that is
00:18:35.200 commonplace for humans that I think is the greatest danger we face. Don't you think it's
00:18:41.040 also the mutual arrogance of knowing for a fact you're right? Maybe you're wrong.
00:18:45.780 Are you comfortable with you being wrong?
00:18:49.600 I'm working with the climate scientists.
00:18:52.060 Okay, so I'm looking at the models they've built.
00:18:53.620 But are you comfortable with them being wrong?
00:18:55.540 Are you comfortable what if they're wrong?
00:18:57.140 Yes, I am, and I think, in fact, the mistakes they've made are to underestimate the dangers they face.
00:19:01.680 For example, I'll give you one of my favorite examples there.
00:19:04.580 Have you heard what's called wet bulb catastrophe?
00:19:07.240 Yes.
00:19:08.480 Okay.
00:19:08.740 I asked one of the leading scientists in this area, has anybody done work on the wet bulb
00:19:16.080 temperature that will kill non-humans? Because one thing which makes humans almost unique in
00:19:21.600 the animal kingdom is we have sweat glands all over our body, which means we can radiate heat
00:19:26.320 from our bodies much more effectively than any other animal except horses. And I thought that
00:19:31.460 somebody would have said, well, in that case, we know wet bulb temperature that would kill
00:19:35.280 a human. It used to be thought to be 35 degrees for six hours. We now know it's probably 31
00:19:40.940 degrees. Experimental results recently have shown that it's more likely 31 degrees wet bulb will
00:19:45.720 kill the vast majority of people. So it's much closer in that sense than we think. But I said,
00:19:51.180 what about if we have a wet bulb catastrophe which kills livestock? Has anybody done studies
00:19:57.400 about that? He said, no, we haven't. So because animals normally sweat through their tongues,
00:20:02.680 They can't get rid of heat as easily as we can.
00:20:05.540 And it's quite possible a wet valve catastrophe could hit at a lower temperature for animals and wipe out our animal stock.
00:20:12.940 Now, that's the sort of thing where I thought scientists would have done the right work.
00:20:16.900 They haven't yet because this is happening so quickly in terms of scientific procedures.
00:20:21.700 Most of the programs, computer programs that simulate what's going to happen with the climate are written in Fortran
00:20:27.080 because that's what the first meteorological systems
00:20:32.520 were first written in Fortran.
00:20:34.300 That's what people still maintain.
00:20:36.300 It's ancient code.
00:20:37.840 It's not stuff which has got all the powers
00:20:40.360 of modern software object orientation
00:20:42.040 and functional programming and things like that.
00:20:44.660 So they don't get updated fast enough
00:20:46.340 and people aren't doing the work.
00:20:48.340 And so in that sense, there are dangers
00:20:50.120 that are not being considered by the climate scientists,
00:20:53.000 even though they've got the technology to do it.
00:20:55.540 So we're potentially underestimating the dangers we face, not overestimating.
00:21:25.540 shop this summer um fair enough i don't think i'm going to change your mind i think you are
00:21:35.400 you're not going to change yeah i think i think you know so you know our brand is called future
00:21:39.520 looks bright okay if you go is it i didn't know that that's what makes it so funny or if you go
00:21:44.760 to uh if you go to flb.com or if you go to vtmerch.com can you go to the future bright
00:21:50.220 collection. That's our brand. Take a look at that. For you, I'm thinking about making a shirt
00:21:56.920 and selling it to see how many it sells. What is the opposite of future looks bright?
00:22:02.280 Would it be future looks dark? Future looks grim. I wonder walking in the streets and seeing
00:22:09.980 somebody, kids wearing future looks grim, what they would say about it. I think we're close to
00:22:13.740 a golden future. This is what pisses me off because it's so dangerous. In the last quarter
00:22:18.480 of a millennium, so 250 years, pretty much since the beginning of America as a country.
00:22:26.900 That's when the Industrial Revolution began. We've learned so much about the universe in
00:22:30.600 that period of time. And if we can continue learning and continue expanding, we could
00:22:35.600 go to a Star Trek future. And that's what I'd like to see. But at the same time, we're
00:22:40.520 damaging the biosphere at the same point. Now, we are probably 20 or 30 years from being
00:22:46.000 able to take production off planet. I mean, therefore, we could produce the goods and
00:22:50.420 services we all consume now and far richer in outer space. We'd dump the waste into the sun.
00:22:56.980 We could have that golden future. And that's what I'd like to see us get to. But we can't get there
00:23:01.800 if we recklessly go at it at such a stage that we end up destroying the productive capacity of the
00:23:06.480 planet before we get to that point. So you must be a massive fan of Elon Musk.
00:23:10.620 Yes and no. He was a total bloody fool when he got involved with Trump. I think it was 1.00
00:23:16.380 totally destructive. He should have stuck with engineering. So I was supporting Musk because
00:23:20.680 I really want to see a human outpost on Mars or anywhere off planet because my feeling is
00:23:26.280 we're not going to stop the damage we're doing on the planet. We are going to destroy the capacity
00:23:30.860 for this planet to support human civilization, if not human life. So in that situation, a bit
00:23:36.440 like the Middle Ages, the only way to hang on to the knowledge is to have a monastery somewhere
00:23:40.200 that keeps all the knowledge and while there's chaos around everywhere else, at least the
00:23:43.960 knowledge is preserved and then we can go forward in the future. That's what I saw about
00:23:48.100 Musk and the potential for getting a human outpost on Mars. Now, he's wasted so much
00:23:52.840 bloody time with his right-wing politics and with his meddling in elections around the
00:23:58.300 planet, including getting Trump elected. I hope he regrets that now, that I don't think
00:24:02.580 he's going to get there, but the Chinese might beat him. But I do want to see a human outpost 1.00
00:24:06.440 on mars to give us some chance of hanging on to the knowledge we've built in the last quarter
00:24:10.600 millennium and not destroying it by destroying the biosphere and not being aware we're doing
00:24:14.360 it until it's too late when we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort function and luxury
00:24:21.240 we had the choice to make it fast we had the choice to make it cheap we chose neither instead
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