Valuetainment - April 16, 2025


“Smuggle Terrorists Into The U.S” – Bukele REJECTS Extradition Of MS-13 Member ‘Mistakenly’ Deported


Episode Stats

Length

21 minutes

Words per Minute

206.5157

Word Count

4,338

Sentence Count

472

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

El Salvador's President says he will not return a man the U.S. mistakenly deported to El Salvador back to the United States. Does he have the power to do so? Is it possible to smuggle him back? Is he a terrorist?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 El Salvador. Rob, if you can pull up the clip of El Salvador's Bukele visiting the White House
00:00:06.520 and saying he will not return a man, the U.S. mistakenly deported.
00:00:11.280 This is from the Reuters. Go for it, Rob.
00:00:13.320 Can President Bukele weigh in on this? Do you plan to return him?
00:00:18.960 Well, I'm supposed to have suggested that I smuggle terrorists in the United States, right?
00:00:24.220 How can I smuggle him? How can I return him to the United States?
00:00:28.140 It's like if I smuggle him into the United States or whether I do it, of course, I'm not going to do it.
00:00:32.920 It's like, I mean, the question is preposterous.
00:00:36.340 How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States?
00:00:39.540 I don't have the power to return him to the United States.
00:00:42.200 But you could release him inside of El Salvador.
00:00:44.000 Yeah, but I'm not releasing, I mean, we're not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country.
00:00:48.080 I mean, we just turned the murder capital of the world into the safest country in the Western Hemisphere
00:00:51.600 and you want us to go back into the releasing criminals so we can go back to being the murder capital of the world.
00:00:57.200 No, no, that's not going to happen.
00:00:59.160 Well, they'd love to have a criminal, you know, released into our country.
00:01:02.020 I mean, there's a fascination.
00:01:04.020 They would love it.
00:01:04.940 Yeah.
00:01:05.460 Listen, though, they gave the president that stick.
00:01:09.680 You know, that's a stupid gotcha question that the media has got to get out of the habit of asking,
00:01:13.980 which is just trying to expose some kind of conflict.
00:01:17.200 So, look.
00:01:17.620 The right question is what?
00:01:18.520 This is a much simpler situation than the one we were just talking about.
00:01:21.880 Okay.
00:01:22.020 Now, I don't know why he calls the guy a terrorist.
00:01:25.780 That's not what this is about with this guy.
00:01:28.260 Okay?
00:01:28.560 Well, Trump labeled anybody that's from a gang that's coming in here.
00:01:31.980 A terrorist.
00:01:32.180 Well, technically, I mean, if you think about it, Chris, technically they are.
00:01:35.180 They cause terror.
00:01:36.220 They kill.
00:01:36.880 They sell drugs.
00:01:37.740 They freaking kill women, children, everything.
00:01:39.660 Listen, I'm not here to defend gangbangers.
00:01:43.000 I'm with you.
00:01:43.400 That's an easy argument to win.
00:01:45.100 All right.
00:01:45.340 What I'm saying is, technically, that's not what a terrorist is under our law.
00:01:50.200 You know that.
00:01:50.760 They got to be doing what they're doing to advance a political agenda.
00:01:53.360 That's why people always get frustrated when we wait when a Muslim extremist does something violent here.
00:01:57.940 But that's not my point.
00:01:59.100 My point is this.
00:02:00.540 This is simple.
00:02:01.860 Okay?
00:02:02.260 It wasn't a mistake.
00:02:03.840 All right?
00:02:04.360 They didn't care about the hearing that he had coming up for his asylum claim.
00:02:09.120 When this guy has his asylum claim, he is not going to get asylum.
00:02:13.200 He has no legitimate basis for it.
00:02:14.780 Well, I'm afraid they're going to kill me there.
00:02:16.700 No, no, no.
00:02:17.320 It has got to be a specific and articulated threat to you.
00:02:21.580 He should be brought back.
00:02:23.240 Give him the hearing so you can prove that you respect due process.
00:02:26.300 And he'll go right back.
00:02:28.340 That's the end of this story.
00:02:29.900 This is a non, what I call a non-traversy, to go after Trump.
00:02:34.720 And he handed them the stick.
00:02:36.820 And that's what's going to happen.
00:02:38.380 They're going to get him.
00:02:39.040 They're going to bring him back.
00:02:39.800 Don't ask El Salvador's president.
00:02:41.420 It's embarrassing for us.
00:02:42.600 He's got nothing to do with it.
00:02:43.580 But apparently, so this guy that, mind you, CNN, oh, I'm sorry, not CNN, the majority of the mainstream media.
00:02:49.880 So this guy, the government has found out that this guy has not only connections, he's probably in MS-13.
00:02:56.720 And none of us know.
00:02:57.680 But you know what they labeled him?
00:02:58.840 A hardworking father departed in the family torn apart.
00:03:02.740 Maryland man, they call him.
00:03:04.280 Maryland man.
00:03:04.780 Maryland man, born and raised in El Salvador and a MS-13 gang man.
00:03:10.420 A hundred percent.
00:03:10.760 Maryland man.
00:03:11.360 Yeah, I mind you.
00:03:12.240 And listen, he goes in.
00:03:13.740 I don't know if we're going to show up.
00:03:14.700 He goes in on Caitlin Collins and CNN, which I normally would be like, you know what, kind of, you know, take it easy.
00:03:20.680 But enough is enough.
00:03:21.920 And actually, I'm happy that he's doing it.
00:03:24.420 Like, we're talking about, think about this, how many thousands of people have Homeland Security, Tom Holman, Kristi Noem, gotten the hell out of our country.
00:03:32.320 I haven't heard of one illegal raping or murdering an American, okay, since Trump has been in.
00:03:37.900 It's shocking, all right, it's amazing.
00:03:40.160 So there's one guy, one guy that everybody's up in arms with, and they're making him seem just like when Soleimani, when Trump in the first administration killed Soleimani, you know what they called him in the media?
00:03:49.840 He was a freedom fighter, and they killed him.
00:03:52.460 It's absolute horseshit, and CNN should be embarrassed.
00:03:56.180 How many more BS stories are we going to have to hear?
00:03:59.680 They're worried about one guy, one freaking guy who was in a gang.
00:04:03.920 And then Miller over here even explains, the guy went to court twice.
00:04:08.260 They said he had a deportation order.
00:04:10.120 That means you don't belong in here, okay?
00:04:12.680 And it's embarrassing, bro, in front of the freaking president who's saying, you want us to ship back a guy that's probably killed and murdered?
00:04:19.080 Hell no, it's embarrassing.
00:04:20.320 Rob, what clip do you have?
00:04:21.740 So I have two of the clips that Vinny had mentioned where Trump calls out Caitlin Collins, if you'd like that.
00:04:26.340 Then I also have Bukele offers the U.S. help to detain criminals.
00:04:30.400 Another clip of Bukele praising Trump for the border crisis and asks him why the media won't report on it.
00:04:36.080 And then finally Stephen Miller debunking the narrative that the Maryland man should not have been deported to El Salvador.
00:04:43.100 Why don't you start off with the Caitlin Collins?
00:04:44.680 Cool.
00:04:45.540 Do you have any questions, please?
00:04:46.880 President Trump?
00:04:47.460 No, let's not start.
00:04:48.700 So that's the first one.
00:04:54.480 Here's the second one.
00:04:56.080 He goes back and does this again.
00:04:57.900 Well, Mr. President, you said that if the Supreme Court said someone needed to be returned, that you would abide by that.
00:05:02.640 You said that on Air Force One just a few days ago.
00:05:04.880 And they said that it must be facilitated.
00:05:07.760 Why don't you just say, isn't it wonderful that we're keeping criminals out of our country?
00:05:12.420 Why can't you just say that?
00:05:13.600 Why do you go over and over and that's why nobody watches you anymore?
00:05:18.380 You know, you have no credibility.
00:05:19.780 Please go ahead.
00:05:20.400 Can you blame this guy?
00:05:24.140 Like, could you just really fast?
00:05:25.220 And I'm sorry to take more time.
00:05:26.520 Can we just like he's fed up?
00:05:29.140 How much more crap, especially from CNN?
00:05:32.080 How many more mistakes?
00:05:33.180 How many more lies?
00:05:33.800 I had to make a list, Pat.
00:05:34.920 Russia collusion.
00:05:35.920 Okay.
00:05:36.240 This is all CNN.
00:05:37.500 Nick Sandman case.
00:05:38.440 Lies.
00:05:38.820 Jussie Smollett.
00:05:39.580 Hoax.
00:05:40.000 Lie.
00:05:40.420 Hunter Biden laptop.
00:05:41.800 COVID lab theory.
00:05:42.860 Joe Rogan on horse dewormer.
00:05:44.580 Trump's fine people.
00:05:46.440 Lying.
00:05:46.820 January 6th.
00:05:47.820 Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:05:48.580 They lied.
00:05:49.100 Hands up.
00:05:49.540 Don't shoot.
00:05:49.980 They lied.
00:05:50.600 The crying border kids photo.
00:05:52.200 Lie.
00:05:52.800 The horse whipping at the border.
00:05:54.620 Lie.
00:05:55.140 The most peaceful riots.
00:05:56.960 Lie.
00:05:57.280 Fake COVID hospitalization overload stories.
00:05:59.880 You guys remember that?
00:06:00.820 Brian Steltson's disinformation segments.
00:06:03.420 How much more?
00:06:04.320 Are they never going to shift gears?
00:06:06.080 Like, are they never going to stop?
00:06:07.980 I get reporting.
00:06:09.140 Hold people's foot to the fire.
00:06:10.320 You are literally in the White House talking about one freaking guy who is an MS-13.
00:06:14.960 Pat, we lived in Cali for how long?
00:06:17.140 How, to get into MS-13, is it just you sign up and you join in?
00:06:21.520 How evil do you have to be to be in this freaking gang?
00:06:24.080 Yeah, they have a form.
00:06:25.160 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:06:26.320 It just boggles my mind that you're in the White House.
00:06:28.760 The guy from El Salvador who had the most dangerous country, now he has the most safest.
00:06:32.460 And that's what she's worried about?
00:06:33.980 This one freaking guy?
00:06:35.060 Eric, it drives me bananas.
00:06:35.880 You are 100% on it, which blows me away that she actually even asked that question, Chris.
00:06:40.520 I mean, CNN management must have been like, what the hell is she?
00:06:44.460 She's a double Asian because they love her in Trump land.
00:06:48.460 They love her.
00:06:49.600 She's got friends in that administration.
00:06:51.320 She gets access.
00:06:52.240 She gets information.
00:06:53.320 She walked right into that.
00:06:53.940 She does.
00:06:54.920 She walked CNN right into an ambush.
00:06:56.660 I mean, they got smoked.
00:06:58.340 CNN got smoked because he points out all the things that CNN's lied about and gave Trump
00:07:02.340 the platform to say, look at these assholes.
00:07:05.100 We're deporting people who rape our women, kill our children, or vice versa.
00:07:09.840 And CNN, you want them back.
00:07:12.180 That exchange makes Caitlyn Collins more popular with the media because she's the new Jim Acosta.
00:07:18.380 At CNN?
00:07:19.040 I got to think they're going to say, what the hell did you do that?
00:07:21.600 Ask him a tough question he can't answer.
00:07:23.300 Not something he's going to absolutely lambast CNN and you.
00:07:26.580 But Jim Acosta, dude, if you think about it, the fake news was birthed by Jim Acosta,
00:07:31.680 who's not even there anymore.
00:07:32.720 I have a theory on that.
00:07:33.700 Trump first term didn't have the mandate and the swell and the support he has right
00:07:38.980 now.
00:07:39.200 He's got the American people behind him.
00:07:40.520 He's got people like me, at least.
00:07:42.720 You and me both.
00:07:43.660 But the first time, they were skeptical.
00:07:45.940 They called him the, you know, he was delusional.
00:07:48.160 He's racist.
00:07:48.800 He's this.
00:07:49.380 And now he's got the American people.
00:07:51.060 First time, he gave Acosta a platform to raise his Q score, Acosta's Q score.
00:07:58.260 He's not doing it anymore.
00:07:59.300 He's smart.
00:08:00.080 He's leg-sweeping these people.
00:08:01.420 I believe Caitlin Collins is probably on her last leg because of that, the, you know,
00:08:08.320 the three or four things she's done recently.
00:08:10.620 But certainly, if I'm CNN management, I go, she just walked us into a slam dunk.
00:08:15.900 No, look, you can look at the ratings and you'll make your decision.
00:08:19.320 That's what management does.
00:08:20.940 But I'm telling you, within the media culture, going at Trump gets you dap and it's going
00:08:26.660 to help.
00:08:26.860 Going at him wisely, smartly.
00:08:28.460 That was, that was, that was, they alley-ooped.
00:08:31.540 She gave him an alley-ooped.
00:08:32.940 I'll give you the, I'll give you the other side of it.
00:08:34.380 Okay.
00:08:34.680 And then feel however you want to feel.
00:08:36.680 He did say, I respect court orders.
00:08:39.360 Don't say that.
00:08:40.020 I respect judges.
00:08:40.960 Okay.
00:08:41.740 Nine, nothing.
00:08:42.780 You got to bring the guy back and have that, uh, that hearing.
00:08:46.720 Yeah.
00:08:47.060 I'm not going to do it.
00:08:48.280 He put himself in the position to do that.
00:08:50.540 Okay.
00:08:51.260 It's nine, nothing.
00:08:52.420 You got to bring them back and give them the hearing.
00:08:54.400 That's due process.
00:08:55.480 The two most important words in the rule, in the law, do it.
00:08:59.300 And then you have high ground.
00:09:00.740 So she's not wrong to say, you said you were going to do that.
00:09:03.420 It's nine zero.
00:09:04.460 It's your court and you're not doing it.
00:09:07.000 That's not unfair.
00:09:07.820 That's not what she said though, Chris.
00:09:09.160 That's not unfair.
00:09:09.900 You asked the question that way.
00:09:11.860 Patrick, you asked Chris, what's the right question?
00:09:13.840 Frame it that way.
00:09:14.780 And then all of a sudden you and CNN look, look smart, look, uh, true, holding truth
00:09:19.860 to power.
00:09:20.580 Fair.
00:09:21.060 You want to be, just be fair.
00:09:21.960 She says, are you going to bring back the Maryland man?
00:09:24.980 And she teed him up to, that's a bullshit way to ask it.
00:09:29.200 And the media, especially in these settings, as we both know, that's a gotcha setting.
00:09:34.340 Nobody's having a real conversation in one of these, uh, press scrums, you know, and that's
00:09:39.800 why Trump thrives in them because he's a one line.
00:09:41.840 The only one who's done worse than the oval office in the last 90, 80 days, whatever
00:09:45.880 it's been is Zelensky.
00:09:48.560 Caitlin Collins is number two to Zelensky.
00:09:51.040 Both got destroyed.
00:09:52.840 Absolutely destroyed.
00:09:53.560 I think it, it helps her.
00:09:55.680 Zelensky, that's apples to oranges.
00:09:57.060 But the, um, look at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
00:10:00.660 Why am I not covering this in a big way on my show?
00:10:03.620 Because of Vinny's point.
00:10:04.800 Okay.
00:10:05.100 I'm not in the business of the defending gangbangers.
00:10:07.580 All right.
00:10:08.440 And, uh, why they do that with him?
00:10:11.160 I don't know.
00:10:11.440 You know what the next one's going to be is this Carmelo Anthony case that is going
00:10:15.920 to blow up in this country because it plays on race and perception and the media is going
00:10:21.800 to play it one way.
00:10:22.720 The people are going to scratch their heads.
00:10:24.300 I don't believe that Trump has the country with them and I don't think this period we're
00:10:27.420 in right now has helped them, but you know, this, we are very volatile right now and people
00:10:32.720 get angry real easy and they get reasonable real slow.
00:10:35.680 And you made a great point, Chris.
00:10:36.680 Look at, look at who the Democrats heroes are right now.
00:10:40.240 An MS-13 gang member, Luigi Mangione, who shot and killed a father in the middle of the
00:10:46.100 street.
00:10:46.760 Mahmoud Khalil, who's a Palestinian Hamas propaganda freaking guy.
00:10:51.380 And then, and then Carmelo Anthony, who stabbed Austin Metzcalf.
00:10:55.160 And now not only did they take the bail from 1 million to 250,000, he's home and he's chilling
00:10:59.880 and you nailed it, Chris.
00:11:00.680 If that was the roles reversed and it was a white kid stabbing a black kid at a track
00:11:05.860 meet, forget it.
00:11:07.860 We would, that, that would have been the talk right now.
00:11:10.220 Cause there would have been riots in the streets, thousand percent.
00:11:12.720 So it's funny who they're representing.
00:11:14.760 I don't think it's a mistake by CNN.
00:11:16.160 I think it's a playbook because when I was sitting there watching this and I had, I got
00:11:20.240 my hackles up and I sat back and I thought for a second and I said, wait a minute, this
00:11:24.480 feels like Trayvon 2.0.
00:11:26.280 They're trying to get me to believe that this person is who it isn't.
00:11:29.260 And we all put, and they paraded out the young picture of what looked like a nice kid.
00:11:33.740 And it turns out that wasn't the kid that was in front of the cop.
00:11:37.580 It was the one that was tatted, that had trouble with the law.
00:11:39.880 And no one wanted to talk about how did that kid get from that picture of that, what looked
00:11:44.640 like it's just a sweet little boy up to this, this, this guy who had been through all this
00:11:49.140 stuff and was a much different guy that ended up in a scuffle that got him killed.
00:11:53.180 Yet they want to gaslight me and get me to believe that the guy was there.
00:11:57.300 And Obama, oh, I don't have any sons, but if I had a son, I'd probably look like Trayvon.
00:12:00.940 What was that dude?
00:12:02.200 What was that?
00:12:02.980 Mistake.
00:12:03.300 And I feel like, yeah, you talk about, talk about walking into a fist.
00:12:08.280 He walked into a fist.
00:12:09.340 Yeah.
00:12:09.680 And so this gaslighting that's here, it's, and I'll tell you, I don't think it's gaslighting.
00:12:14.180 When Zaz goes to the Howling Company conference, he's going to brag about her.
00:12:17.320 Oh, she goes up against it.
00:12:18.620 She goes really quick.
00:12:19.400 Yeah.
00:12:19.700 You should buy CNN.
00:12:20.740 And by the way, she's on a rookie contract.
00:12:22.200 She's really inexpensive.
00:12:23.260 And we got rid of all the other bigger contracts, right?
00:12:25.900 That's how they're going to do it.
00:12:27.020 And CNN is, is on, man, they have not only jumped the shark, they're for sale.
00:12:31.980 And everybody knows they're for sale, which is the part that shocks me.
00:12:35.540 They live in the echo chamber.
00:12:36.980 They love her inside the echo chamber.
00:12:39.160 Oh, you're our girl.
00:12:40.260 You're a tough girl.
00:12:41.220 Boy, look at you.
00:12:42.380 Inside the echo chamber, they love it.
00:12:43.860 But outside, you're right.
00:12:45.360 And she plays MAGA, by the way, because she used to work for the, what, the Daily...
00:12:50.780 Tucker.
00:12:51.260 Yeah, she used to work for Tucker.
00:12:52.600 She's from Alabama.
00:12:54.280 You know, and look, I worked with her.
00:12:55.800 She was a good reporter.
00:12:56.600 She had deep, deep reach into Trump world, okay?
00:13:00.920 I don't know who it is or why it is, but she gets a lot of access from them and a lot
00:13:06.280 of information.
00:13:06.860 And that was what made her appealing.
00:13:10.400 I like her.
00:13:11.620 I get what she's doing there.
00:13:13.200 I get what the play is.
00:13:14.520 The problem is the ratings.
00:13:16.760 And at the end of the day, you're only as good as your number in that business.
00:13:20.040 People liked me.
00:13:20.960 People didn't like me.
00:13:21.820 I was number one.
00:13:22.980 I was number one at CNN.
00:13:24.820 Every month, I was number one.
00:13:26.820 Yeah, but it's Anderson Cooper's house.
00:13:28.480 True.
00:13:29.040 I'm number one.
00:13:30.100 Yeah, but Jake Tapper is going to be the guy who does the debates.
00:13:32.860 I'm number one.
00:13:34.240 You know, you are your number in that business.
00:13:36.240 And if the numbers stay down, you're going to be gone.
00:13:38.640 It's just how it is.
00:13:40.160 So you're saying she ain't going away anytime soon?
00:13:42.700 Well, look, based on the numbers, she'd be gone yesterday.
00:13:45.900 It's all about what management wants to do.
00:13:47.680 Where does she rank right now on CNN?
00:13:50.420 I don't know.
00:13:51.080 Behind Anderson.
00:13:52.160 And sometimes behind Jake, who's on at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
00:13:55.720 Look, they've got to figure out their numbers there.
00:13:58.100 They're not unique in that position, but they definitely have problems in their prime
00:14:01.720 time lineup.
00:14:03.660 And that's okay.
00:14:05.960 Business, you know, people go up and down.
00:14:07.480 They've got to figure it out.
00:14:08.260 I think the bigger problem is-
00:14:10.340 Is that really the amount of viewership she's got?
00:14:12.000 Yeah.
00:14:12.460 119,000, that's it?
00:14:13.620 Yeah, I'm telling you.
00:14:14.300 There's no way in the world that's it.
00:14:15.880 Yeah, that's a demo.
00:14:16.700 Yeah, but that's the one that they sell.
00:14:18.080 Right.
00:14:18.540 And look, I'd love to have that number.
00:14:20.780 Yeah, it's a new station.
00:14:22.800 What was it, 18 to 54?
00:14:24.040 25 to 54.
00:14:26.240 Now they're selling more often 35 to 54 because the marketplace is being forced to accept that
00:14:31.200 it's really people our age who have most of their disposable income.
00:14:34.900 Five, 430, bear 330.
00:14:36.800 I was the original gangster on the five, the center seat on the five for six years.
00:14:40.560 We were, Tudor O'Reilly, these numbers, the whole cable news world is shrinking.
00:14:46.380 These numbers are way down from-
00:14:49.240 Yeah, there's stratification and that's okay because at the end of the day, there's still
00:14:52.700 going to be a flight to value and curated audiences.
00:14:55.100 My concern about the culture is we're just addicted to the division.
00:14:58.780 You know, like you and I will both hear things like, oh, you seem like, you know, you're like
00:15:03.440 buddies.
00:15:03.940 Like it was bad enough with Pat and his guys.
00:15:05.680 Now Eric Bowling, we are a culture of division.
00:15:08.920 Listen, people don't want to reward cooperation, friendship, amity, disagreement without being
00:15:17.500 disagreeable.
00:15:18.500 They like the sides.
00:15:20.380 This is interesting.
00:15:21.580 They like the sides.
00:15:22.300 You want to bring something up?
00:15:23.620 Go ahead.
00:15:24.000 What do you got?
00:15:25.340 I think you're, you're clearly the best on News Nation.
00:15:28.420 Clearly.
00:15:29.780 I'm the best sitting next to you right now.
00:15:31.580 News Nation is cast to pick a side.
00:15:33.680 They haven't picked a side.
00:15:34.780 We're news for everyone.
00:15:36.360 I'll get fired if I pick a side.
00:15:37.620 Right, I contend that that's why News Nation can't make ground on Fox because people want
00:15:45.520 a side.
00:15:45.960 That's right.
00:15:46.320 And News Nation wants to be all the news for all the people, which is admirable.
00:15:50.320 But we're in a bifurcated world right now.
00:15:52.760 Eric, where are you at?
00:15:53.480 You're now where?
00:15:54.260 You're with the Red Sea Ventures?
00:15:56.640 Well, Red Sea was bought by Fox Corporation.
00:15:58.780 So my digital portion is with Fox now.
00:16:01.360 But my cable portion is on Real America's Voice and YouTube and Rumble.
00:16:07.620 We're live there as well.
00:16:09.780 So I own the show, but I license it to Rav and also license it to Fox.
00:16:14.020 He's in the right place entrepreneurially.
00:16:16.480 And the country, you got to bet on the country getting past the parties.
00:16:22.380 That's my bet.
00:16:23.240 I agree with that, yeah.
00:16:24.080 And it's not opportunistic.
00:16:25.540 I mean, this is where I am.
00:16:26.720 I don't like the parties I never have.
00:16:28.680 I say the same thing on Pat's show all the time.
00:16:30.680 If your name's Cuomo, I'll vote for you.
00:16:32.720 If you run as a Democrat, I'll vote for you as a Democrat if you need me in the primary.
00:16:37.420 But I hate the parties.
00:16:38.660 They are the problem in our culture.
00:16:39.780 Can Stephen A. Smith get the support of Democrats?
00:16:42.080 Yes.
00:16:43.220 I think he can.
00:16:44.040 Even with his...
00:16:44.800 Now, he won't get it if I have anything to say about it because I care about him too much.
00:16:50.060 And I don't want to see him get chewed up by that system because they'll start coming for him.
00:16:56.960 Right now, he's on the ascendant.
00:16:58.380 And I think with good reason.
00:16:59.420 I love Stephen A.
00:17:00.380 I love what he's about.
00:17:01.160 Smart guy.
00:17:03.080 And...
00:17:03.480 But he's pick and choose the issue.
00:17:06.140 He's not straight blue.
00:17:07.600 Yeah, but that's the way you got to be.
00:17:08.740 That's the way we are everywhere else in our life except for our politics.
00:17:10.960 Can you get elected?
00:17:11.480 Listen, I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. should be the next president.
00:17:14.840 I really do.
00:17:15.520 But people on my side, MAGA, don't like that because he comes from a Democrat place.
00:17:20.820 And we've become so bifurcated.
00:17:23.600 The country's just going wider and wider apart.
00:17:25.720 They don't want to just beat the other side.
00:17:27.320 They want to destroy...
00:17:28.100 They don't want to see a 2-1 baseball game.
00:17:30.680 They want to see a 12-0 blowout no-hitter.
00:17:33.440 But I believe those are the fringes.
00:17:35.500 In our everyday life, where you are...
00:17:37.280 That's rating, though.
00:17:38.100 That's where the ratings are.
00:17:39.140 No question.
00:17:40.100 I'm not arguing that point.
00:17:41.740 You win.
00:17:42.400 What I'm saying is I'm betting on something bigger than that.
00:17:46.040 That there are more independent critical thinkers in this country than we let on.
00:17:51.920 Look, Pat's on...
00:17:53.560 I'm sorry.
00:17:55.280 Go ahead.
00:17:55.840 They voted for Trump, though.
00:17:57.660 Some did, yeah.
00:17:58.500 Well, most.
00:17:59.660 More than half.
00:18:00.820 Some did.
00:18:01.440 Why?
00:18:02.100 Because he's a known quantity.
00:18:04.520 And what was going on with the left, mostly from a cultural perspective, because I believe
00:18:08.760 they got baited into a fight that they couldn't win, was more removed from normal than Trump.
00:18:16.880 The left.
00:18:17.880 Yeah.
00:18:18.220 Yeah, the left became so crazy.
00:18:19.900 Let me ask you this question.
00:18:20.840 Let me ask both of you guys a question.
00:18:21.960 So, Stephen A. Smith.
00:18:23.780 Say he ends up running, okay?
00:18:27.420 Will he have more momentum?
00:18:29.220 Will he have more momentum running as a Democrat or as a Republican?
00:18:32.400 Forget independent.
00:18:33.360 I'm saying Democrat or Republican.
00:18:35.540 Democrat.
00:18:36.580 He can't run as a Republican.
00:18:38.200 MAGA's going to hold...
00:18:39.120 Who's the heir to Trump?
00:18:41.220 Is it J.D. Vance?
00:18:42.460 Is it Don Jr.?
00:18:44.660 Eric Trump?
00:18:45.160 Or one of the other Trumps, who knows, could be Ivanka Trump for that.
00:18:51.520 Who knows, yeah.
00:18:52.080 No idea.
00:18:52.840 But the throne right now is in MAGA's hands.
00:18:56.040 I'm not Republicans at all.
00:18:57.640 Throw out Republicans.
00:18:58.600 No one even cares about the Republican Party anymore.
00:19:00.620 It's the new conservative party is Trump's party.
00:19:03.280 It's MAGA.
00:19:03.780 It's what we are.
00:19:05.660 Stephen A. Smith, great.
00:19:06.900 He would be a better disruptor of the left for us than actually running on our side.
00:19:12.540 A lot of you have been asking about the Cigar Lounge, that you want to come to it.
00:19:16.540 And we've been having back-to-back-to-back.
00:19:18.460 This last Friday was the biggest event we ever had at the Cigar Lounge, which was fantastic.
00:19:23.580 However, grand opening is this Thursday night.
00:19:26.260 This Thursday night.
00:19:27.480 And this is what we're doing.
00:19:28.420 Thursday, we're not doing a podcast in the morning.
00:19:30.960 Thursday, we're doing a live podcast at our comedy club, at Cigar Lounge, $59.90 live.
00:19:36.680 Tickets are being sold.
00:19:37.600 It'll be myself, Vinny, Tom, and Adam.
00:19:40.160 Live audience.
00:19:41.320 Come on down.
00:19:42.180 Bar opens at 6.
00:19:43.220 If you get there at 6 p.m., you buy tickets.
00:19:45.980 No matter whether you buy the regular ticket, the general, the premium, or VIP, if you get
00:19:50.600 the ticket and you're there early, we're going to give private tours of the Cigar Lounge
00:19:53.960 and then bring you back in the room.
00:19:55.480 And the podcast will start at 7 p.m.
00:19:57.480 It's going to be a skeptic.
00:19:58.360 I mean, it's going to be, if you've been to it before, it's a spectacle.
00:20:01.280 It's incredible.
00:20:02.100 The energy, the vibe, the announcements, different things that we do on a lot of people networking
00:20:05.740 together.
00:20:06.620 But that's the QR code.
00:20:08.260 The website, Rob, if we can give them the website so some of the folks on Spotify can
00:20:11.560 go to it as well.
00:20:12.760 I believe it's boardroomcigarlounge.com.
00:20:17.720 Boardroomcigarlounge.com.
00:20:18.840 Go a little bit lower so it gives the details.
00:20:21.420 You'll get the tickets.
00:20:22.380 So go lower, Rob, lower, lower for the tickets.
00:20:24.080 There's general premium VIP, $100, $250, $500.
00:20:27.720 VIP, you get a chance to actually go afterwards to the Cigar Lounge and we'll be with you guys.
00:20:31.820 And we're doing it Thursday instead of Friday because Friday is Good Friday.
00:20:34.500 So Thursday we'll celebrate it together.
00:20:36.340 Come on down, bring a friend, network, join the rest of us.
00:20:39.980 We'll have a good time.
00:20:40.640 If you've been to it before, typically the people that have been to it before, they know
00:20:44.100 VIPs sell out immediately.
00:20:45.600 This year we have fewer VIPs because platinum members get first on those seats.
00:20:50.980 So if you want to have a VIP seat, hurry up and place your order and we'll see you guys
00:20:54.220 Thursday night.
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