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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- August 02, 2024
9⧸11 Mastermind SPARED, Courtesy of Biden & Harris, plus Jordanian Illegals who tried to Breach Quantico RELEASED on Bail
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Misogynist Sentences
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Hate Speech Sentences
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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Welcome.
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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
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Ben Ferguson with you.
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And Senator, there are going to be many people that are going to listen to this show,
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and they're going to be enraged that they haven't already seen the news.
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That the mastermind behind 9-11 is going to have his life spared
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in a deal that he made with the United States government.
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Well, this week has been a very, very good week.
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If you happen to be a terrorist, if you happen to be someone who wants to murder Americans,
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this has been a phenomenal week, because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris just gave a gift
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to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
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They agreed to take the death penalty off the table and spare his life.
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It's an absolute outrage.
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It's an insult to the families of all of those who were murdered on 9-11.
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And it sadly is something we predicted a year ago,
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that this is what Biden and Harris were going to do.
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They did exactly that.
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Also, this very same week, two illegal aliens from Jordan who tried to breach the Quantico base
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were allowed to walk free.
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They were allowed to post bail, and they just walked free.
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Again, a very good week if you happen to be a terrorist.
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Not a good week if you want to keep Americans safe.
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We're going to talk about all that.
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Yeah, it's a lot.
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It's an important episode.
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I also want to just say thank you to so many listeners.
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You guys have rallied for the people in Israel.
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And just a couple nights ago, I was having dinner with the incredible team from IFCJ.
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Now, if you don't know the work that they're doing, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews,
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that's why I want you to take a moment and to see what they're doing and get involved.
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Since the war has broken out and the constant attacks have been happening against the Israeli people,
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IFCJ has been on the ground, and because of your donations,
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they've been able to help people in need and save lives,
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whether it is giving literal bulletproof vests, putting in bomb shelters,
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helping with the needs of those that have already been attacked,
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and also providing armed ambulances that have been able to evacuate people,
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including on the day of October the 7th, because they were bulletproof,
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and they were able to save lives.
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When I sat down with several of the people that come over from Israel for the first time
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since the attack on October the 7th to hear the stories,
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it breaks your heart, but it also makes you so thankful that there are listeners out there like you guys
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that are supporting and standing with the people in Israel that need so many things,
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basic things, whether it is food and water after bombing happens in their city,
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in their town, in their neighborhood,
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or it is the bomb shelters that they're putting in and placing,
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or the armor that is given to the first responders.
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The work that you are doing is unbelievable, so thank you.
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Now, if you've not gotten involved with IFCJ,
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here is your opportunity to stand with the people of Israel and make a real difference.
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Whether it's armored security trucks,
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whether it is stopping bullets from terrorists who are firing at the people
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that are trying to save the lives of those who have already been wounded,
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this is the work they're doing.
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I want you to hear more about the stories and what is happening.
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Just go to supportifcj.org.
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That is supportifcj.org.
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You'll hear these stories.
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You'll be able to show your support for Israel as well.
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They need our help right now, and you can get involved.
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Supportifcj.org.
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Senator, let's just talk about a year ago.
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Almost to the day, you and I did this show warning
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after letters went to family members of the victims of 9-11
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that there was a possibility of a plea deal with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,
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the mastermind of 9-11,
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that his life would be spared if he just said,
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okay, fine, I'll plead guilty to the charges.
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Now, to be clear about who Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is,
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he's not just the mastermind of 9-11.
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This is a guy that has confessed to at least 31 horrific and barbaric attacks,
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including the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.
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On top of that, he was the guy that was there with the beheading
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of the Wall Street Journal reporter, Daniel Pearl.
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He was the mastermind behind the 2002 Bali bombings,
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and he was a man that was in charge with a plan to blow up the Panama Canal.
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He had active plans to assassinate Jimmy Carter,
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and a plot to blow up suspension bridges in New York City.
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Now, these are just some of the things that he was working on.
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He clearly knew how to kill people.
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He killed women, children.
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He killed police officers, firemen, first responders,
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and he was also accountable for killing American troops overseas after 9-11.
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And this administration just spared his life.
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Why would they make this deal except for the fact they say,
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we just want to close down Gitmo?
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Well, sadly, that's exactly it.
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It's all politics all the time.
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And a year ago, last August, we devoted an entire podcast
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to focusing on the very real risk that this was going to happen,
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that the Biden-Harris White House, this is what they wanted to have happen.
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And they announced just this week that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,
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they've cut a plea deal with him and two other co-conspirators,
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Waleed Mohammed Salih Mubarak bin Atash, boy, that's a mouthful,
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and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al-Hasawi,
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both of whom, along with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,
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have been in Guantanamo Bay since 2003.
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And understand, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,
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and by that I mean really the left-wing radicals that surround them,
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because I don't know that Joe Biden wants anything other than just to have his Jell-O at 4 p.m.
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But the radicals that run this White House
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and that are now trying to have a coronation for Kamala Harris,
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they came in with the objective,
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they hate Gitmo, they want to shut it down,
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they hate that it exists.
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And in order to shut it down,
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this was the deal they wanted to cut.
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And understand, look, 9-11,
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a lot of our listeners are young enough that you weren't alive on September 11th.
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What happened on September 11th, 2001,
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2,976 people were murdered.
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It remains the most horrific terrorist attack in the history of our country.
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And Khalid Sheikh Mohammed planned it
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and directed those executing it.
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And for this administration to say,
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the death penalty is no longer a possibility,
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we're going to agree
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that you can go,
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you can leave Gitmo,
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you can go to an American prison,
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and you will not face capital punishment.
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Well, let me quote
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retired police officer Jim Smith.
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He is the husband of Moira Smith,
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who was the only female NYPD officer
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who died on September 11th.
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He said when he heard this news,
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he felt like he'd been kicked in the balls.
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And here's his quote.
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The prosecution and families have waited 23 years
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to have our day in court
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to put on the record
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what these animals did to our loved ones.
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They took that opportunity away from us.
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They committed the worst crime
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in the history of our country.
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They should receive the highest penalty.
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Or here's another quote.
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This is from retired cop Kathy Vigiano,
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who's the wife of NYPD detective Joseph Vigiano,
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who was also killed on September 11th.
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Here's what she said.
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Quote,
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I'm angry and disappointed
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that enemy combatants
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who killed thousands of Americans
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in our homeland
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are now able to exploit
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the U.S. judicial system
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to their benefit,
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receiving support from American taxpayers
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for shelter, food, and health care
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for the rest of their lives.
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You know, you get your head around this,
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and it's all about a feather in the cap,
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and that's how they look at it at the White House.
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They were obsessed with getting us out of Afghanistan
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on the anniversary of 9-11.
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It cost Americans lives at the airport
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and countless people, operators,
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that risked their lives to save American lives,
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translators, and others
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who were beheaded and tortured and killed
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after we left so abruptly,
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and there were kill lists
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that were clearly put out for them.
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They wanted to close quickly,
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not because it was the safest way to do it,
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to draw down in Afghanistan,
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but because it was a political moment
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that they wanted to say
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on the anniversary of 9-11,
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I ended America's longest war.
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That was the goal for Joe Biden.
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That's what he did.
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And they've been obsessed
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with closing Guantanamo Bay.
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And phase one of getting this deal done
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was the obsession with the left
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that, oh, we waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
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Yeah, the guy knew about a lot of plans
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and a lot of terrorist attacks,
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and he knew where we assumed Osama bin Laden
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and other terrorists were.
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And they said, well, you should feel sorry for him.
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That should have never happened.
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He should get a plea deal.
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And then they just said,
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we're just going to run out the clock here.
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And then we gave him lawyers,
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and we paid incredible amounts of money
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for his legal defense team with our tax dollars.
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And then we gave him incredible medical care
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and all sorts of other benefits.
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And now we're going to, as you mentioned,
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keep him alive for the rest of his life.
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But I go back to the victims here,
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and this is what pisses me off.
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There are tens of thousands of family members
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that get a damn letter in the mail.
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Yep, form letter.
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A form letter that just says,
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hey, the guy that killed your family,
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I'm sorry your dad or your mom or your grandmother
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or your son or your daughter had to choose
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between burning to death in the Twin Towers
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or jumping out the window.
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The guy who planned that is going to live now
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because we want to just move this off the books
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and we want to close down Gitmo
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for another moment like we had in Afghanistan
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that, by the way, turned out to be a disaster.
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And they get a damn form letter.
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Well, listen, you're right
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that this White House,
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Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,
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what characterizes every decision they make
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is they put politics first.
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They put their radical partisan agenda
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above the interest of Americans.
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Why do we have open borders?
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We have open borders
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because they want to stay in power
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because they wanted to let
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11 and a half million illegal aliens in
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because they think they'll vote for Democrats
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either now, some illegally now,
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and the others in the future
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when they grant them amnesty
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and give them voting rights.
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So if in the meantime people have to die,
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that's a perfectly acceptable risk
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from their perspective.
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Why did we pull out of Afghanistan
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so incompetently in a way that resulted
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in 13 servicemen and women being murdered?
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Because as you just said,
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they wanted to announce
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we were out of Afghanistan
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on the anniversary of 9-11.
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It's all about the political announcement.
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And here, this was about appeasing the leftists
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who hate the fact that Guantanamo exists at all.
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Look, the Police Benevolent Association president,
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Patrick Hendry,
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says he was inundated with calls
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from officers' families
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after he learned of the plea deal,
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and he said it was, quote,
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quote, heartbreaking and infuriating.
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And here's what he said, quote,
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their loved one's sacrifice
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is being disrespected,
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and they are being victimized all over again.
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These individuals masterminded
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an attack on our nation
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that not only claimed 2,977 lives that day,
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but thousands more in the years since.
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Their crime merits the ultimate punishment.
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There should be no plea
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and absolutely no leniency.
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And I'll tell you what,
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the firefighters feel the same way.
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The Uniformed Firefighters Association
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president, Andrew Ansbro,
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said that FDNY's thousands of firefighters
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feel, quote,
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betrayed and disgusted.
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And here's what he said, quote,
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343 New York City firefighters
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died on that day,
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and hundreds have died since then.
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We're still losing three firefighters a month
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to the effects of 9-11 Ground Zero.
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We feel betrayed and disgusted
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that they will not face
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the ultimate justice of the death penalty,
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that these terrorists were offered a plea deal
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which will allow them to live in their old age
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with contact with their families.
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I pause because I'm angry.
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And if you know anybody that's lost a loved one,
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whether it's on 9-11,
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and you and I have friends
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that lost loved ones on 9-11,
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but we also...
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And Heidi and I lost a very good friend.
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We were very good friends with Barbara Olson.
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She was married to Ted Olson,
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who was the Solicitor General of the United States
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under George W. Bush.
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We had been with Barbara
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not many weeks before 9-11,
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and she was on the plane
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that crashed into the Pentagon.
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She lost her life on that day.
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I had dinner tonight with...
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I mean, as you know,
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I'm in Pinehurst,
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which is right next to Fort Bragg,
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or they renamed it being PC Fort Freedom
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or whatever they call it now,
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with a couple of different guys
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that signed up after 9-11.
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They're still in.
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And we were having dinner,
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and this subject came up.
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And it was sad to see their demeanor change
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because they are enraged.
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Yeah.
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Because their friends died.
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Yes.
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They lost their friends fighting these terrorists.
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Their friends were killed by people
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that were being trained and recruited
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by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
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One of the things that was brought up
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tonight at dinner
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that made them so mad
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was they said,
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what people forget is
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Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
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was not just the master on 9-11.
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He was the master of the propaganda
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to recruit radicals into Al-Qaeda.
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And those radicals were the ones
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on the battlefield
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that were killing American soldiers.
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So it's not just the people
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that died on 9-11.
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There were countless others
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that signed up to fight the terrorists
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after 9-11
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that were fighting against people
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that had been recruited
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through propaganda and training
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by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
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who were then killed.
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By the way,
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he was never charged directly
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for their murders, right?
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And he said,
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so to be clear now,
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you sent men and women in uniform,
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American men and women in uniform
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to go kill these people.
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You die.
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And the guy who masterminded
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the whole damn thing
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that started it all
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is now going to live
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the rest of his life
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until he naturally expires.
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And you think Americans
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are going to want to sign up
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to fight for America
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if this is what they know happens
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after the worst terrorist attack
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on American soil
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in American history?
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Well, and listen,
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the media wants America
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to forget about 9-11.
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Forget about the crazed
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theocratic lunatics
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who sought to murder us,
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who want to destroy us.
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And I will say
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for those of us
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who are old enough
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to have been alive,
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every one of us
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remembers exactly
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where you were
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that morning.
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Where were you
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in the morning of 9-11?
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I was in my college dorm room
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at Ole Miss
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and my phone,
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my cell phone rang
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and it was a producer
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at Fox News
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because I was doing TV then
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and he just said,
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turn on your TV
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and hung up.
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It was the horror
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all across this country,
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everyone,
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life just stopped.
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For me,
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I was in D.C.
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It was the beginning
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of the Bush administration.
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I was working
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in the Bush administration.
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I was the head of policy
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at the Federal Trade Commission
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at the time.
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And that morning,
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I was walking out
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of our apartment
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literally at the front door
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and my phone rang
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and it was Heidi
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and she had left
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earlier that morning.
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Heidi was working
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at the White House
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and Heidi called me
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and said,
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turn on the television
00:16:52.780
right now.
00:16:53.860
So I stopped,
00:16:54.740
I went back to my apartment,
00:16:55.700
turned it on
00:16:56.240
and watched
00:16:57.760
and we saw
00:16:59.180
the Twin Towers,
00:17:01.440
the World Trade Center
00:17:02.420
and we saw smoke
00:17:05.320
coming out of the top
00:17:06.340
of one of the two towers
00:17:07.460
and early on,
00:17:10.600
we didn't know
00:17:12.260
what it was.
00:17:13.120
We didn't know
00:17:13.780
if it was initially
00:17:14.680
just that the early speculation
00:17:16.520
was it was
00:17:17.380
some horrible accident,
00:17:18.720
some pilot
00:17:20.040
of a small plane
00:17:21.060
had screwed up
00:17:21.920
and crashed into a building.
00:17:23.660
It was not immediately
00:17:25.180
apparent what had happened.
00:17:27.580
And as everyone's watching
00:17:28.920
one of the towers
00:17:30.040
with smoke coming out of it,
00:17:32.120
the whole world
00:17:33.960
watched in horror
00:17:34.940
as we saw
00:17:35.800
a commercial jet,
00:17:36.980
a second commercial jet,
00:17:39.080
steer around
00:17:40.120
and crash into
00:17:41.380
the second tower.
00:17:42.720
And the instant
00:17:44.160
that happened,
00:17:45.000
everyone knew
00:17:45.840
exactly what this was.
00:17:47.360
This was not
00:17:48.020
a tragic accident.
00:17:50.040
This was a deliberate
00:17:51.360
act of murder,
00:17:52.300
a horrible act
00:17:53.220
of terrorism.
00:17:54.920
And there was
00:17:56.180
a level of confusion.
00:17:58.260
There was a level
00:17:58.880
of just horror
00:18:01.800
and disbelief.
00:18:03.240
So Heidi at the time,
00:18:04.200
as I said,
00:18:04.520
was working at the White House.
00:18:05.560
Initially,
00:18:06.080
when the first plane hit,
00:18:08.040
the Secret Service
00:18:09.040
told the folks
00:18:10.160
at the White House,
00:18:11.120
just stay where you are,
00:18:12.480
keep working.
00:18:13.580
And everyone's watching it,
00:18:15.020
but everyone's staying there.
00:18:16.640
When the second plane hit,
00:18:19.440
they ran through
00:18:21.020
the hallways
00:18:21.760
and they literally
00:18:22.440
told people,
00:18:23.640
get out now,
00:18:24.700
run,
00:18:25.240
do not walk,
00:18:26.300
run.
00:18:27.340
And so Heidi sprinted out.
00:18:30.040
Her car was parked
00:18:31.560
in an underground
00:18:32.400
parking garage,
00:18:33.200
so she couldn't get her car.
00:18:34.540
They wouldn't let her
00:18:35.300
get her car.
00:18:37.020
And so Heidi proceeded
00:18:38.080
to take off
00:18:38.720
her high heels
00:18:39.400
and walk home barefoot.
00:18:41.880
We had an apartment
00:18:42.760
in Arlington, Virginia,
00:18:46.980
actually just south
00:18:49.300
of the Pentagon.
00:18:52.100
And shortly thereafter,
00:18:54.720
so there was a lot
00:18:55.340
of confusion
00:18:55.940
about what was happening.
00:18:57.660
I'm watching TV.
00:18:59.100
I'm trying to get
00:18:59.920
in touch with Heidi,
00:19:01.340
but cell phones
00:19:01.960
were not working very well.
00:19:03.520
There was a period
00:19:04.360
where it was being reported,
00:19:05.620
I think on ABC,
00:19:06.820
that a plane
00:19:07.620
had hit the White House,
00:19:08.780
which obviously,
00:19:09.560
I'm having trouble
00:19:10.100
getting Heidi in,
00:19:11.180
so I'm very freaked out
00:19:12.820
that she's in harm's way.
00:19:14.620
She ended up
00:19:15.320
walking across
00:19:16.240
Memorial Bridge
00:19:17.340
and walking home
00:19:18.080
to our apartment,
00:19:19.300
just carrying her high heels.
00:19:21.800
And the plane
00:19:22.920
that had been reported
00:19:24.000
that had hit the White House
00:19:25.220
is actually the one
00:19:26.340
that struck the Pentagon.
00:19:29.440
And as I mentioned,
00:19:30.420
Barbara Olson,
00:19:31.100
our friend,
00:19:31.580
was on it,
00:19:32.320
and Barbara actually
00:19:33.300
picked up her cell phone
00:19:34.560
on the plane
00:19:36.200
and was able
00:19:37.200
to contact her husband,
00:19:38.440
Ted.
00:19:38.660
She got Ted on the phone.
00:19:39.700
And Ted was at the time,
00:19:41.960
he was the number three
00:19:42.680
official at the Bush
00:19:43.500
Department of Justice,
00:19:44.420
and he knew exactly
00:19:45.880
what was happening.
00:19:46.640
He knew his wife
00:19:47.620
was on that phone,
00:19:49.660
and Barbara was
00:19:50.560
a firebrand.
00:19:51.880
She was passionate,
00:19:54.040
she was a fighter,
00:19:54.900
she was conservative,
00:19:55.800
she was awesome.
00:19:57.400
And Barbara said
00:19:59.020
to Ted,
00:20:00.520
what do I do?
00:20:01.140
How do we stop them?
00:20:03.080
And that was
00:20:04.020
the last conversation
00:20:05.340
they had,
00:20:05.820
because moments later
00:20:06.480
the plane crashed
00:20:07.200
in the Pentagon.
00:20:08.380
You think about that,
00:20:10.060
and then you think about
00:20:11.300
the cover-up
00:20:12.500
of this decision,
00:20:13.760
and I think we should
00:20:14.720
talk about that
00:20:15.540
because it's important.
00:20:16.860
Yes.
00:20:17.200
The White House
00:20:18.060
is acting now
00:20:19.500
like they had nothing
00:20:20.840
to do with this.
00:20:22.420
White House press secretary
00:20:23.900
today,
00:20:25.380
Jean-Pierre,
00:20:26.080
was asked
00:20:26.820
about this moment,
00:20:28.120
and I want you to hear
00:20:29.580
just how
00:20:30.980
they're playing this.
00:20:32.560
Again,
00:20:33.040
politics,
00:20:34.140
it's a lie,
00:20:35.040
and I want us
00:20:35.940
to explain that lie,
00:20:37.120
but first,
00:20:37.740
here is what she said
00:20:38.820
when she was asked
00:20:39.620
about it.
00:20:40.460
Thank you,
00:20:41.660
Corrine.
00:20:42.080
I'm just hoping
00:20:43.100
for a response
00:20:43.940
to the 9-11 plea deal
00:20:45.960
that spared the
00:20:46.860
architects the death penalty.
00:20:48.160
The New York City
00:20:48.720
Firefighters Union
00:20:49.520
put out a statement
00:20:50.380
that said,
00:20:51.440
we are disgusted
00:20:52.300
and disappointed
00:20:53.020
that these three terrorists
00:20:54.640
were given a plea deal
00:20:55.560
and allowed to escape
00:20:56.460
the ultimate justice
00:20:57.280
while each month
00:20:58.280
three more heroes
00:20:59.240
from the FDNY
00:20:59.980
are dying
00:21:00.640
from World Trade Center
00:21:01.760
illnesses.
00:21:02.840
Does the administration
00:21:03.580
have a message for them?
00:21:05.040
Look,
00:21:05.240
our hearts go out.
00:21:06.680
I mean,
00:21:07.020
not much more
00:21:08.080
than I can add
00:21:08.800
to what you heard
00:21:09.420
from the National Security Advisor
00:21:10.820
and how I just answered
00:21:11.920
the question
00:21:12.760
to one of your colleagues,
00:21:13.980
and I'll just reiterate,
00:21:15.160
obviously,
00:21:15.660
our hearts go out
00:21:16.500
to the families
00:21:17.860
who lost a loved one.
00:21:20.100
We didn't have a role
00:21:20.960
in this.
00:21:21.920
This was not something
00:21:23.020
that we were involved in,
00:21:25.080
and so we are determined
00:21:27.400
to make sure
00:21:28.100
that they get justice,
00:21:29.720
these families get justice.
00:21:31.320
I just don't have
00:21:32.100
anything else to add
00:21:32.980
to what the National Security Advisor
00:21:34.540
just stated from here
00:21:36.000
moments ago.
00:21:37.780
Senator,
00:21:38.460
I mean,
00:21:39.360
I think you need to explain
00:21:41.280
how big of a lie this is.
00:21:43.160
Yeah,
00:21:43.360
what utter garbage,
00:21:44.740
but actually,
00:21:45.460
actually,
00:21:45.840
play the next clip,
00:21:47.380
which is the National Security Advisor,
00:21:49.820
Jake Sullivan.
00:21:50.500
So she's referencing
00:21:51.220
what he said.
00:21:52.000
Play that as well.
00:21:53.520
Switching gears
00:21:54.300
for a moment,
00:21:55.480
I want to ask you
00:21:56.900
about the e-deal
00:21:58.400
that was breached
00:21:59.540
with 9-11 suspects
00:22:01.160
by military courts
00:22:03.800
down in Guantanamo.
00:22:05.140
Republicans are condemning
00:22:06.520
this as showing weakness
00:22:08.960
and calling it
00:22:10.220
a sweetheart deal
00:22:11.600
because it avoids
00:22:12.640
trial and the death penalty.
00:22:14.720
I'm just wondering
00:22:15.340
if the administration
00:22:16.100
has any response to that.
00:22:18.100
As we said last night,
00:22:19.400
the White House
00:22:20.140
received word
00:22:21.360
that the convening authority
00:22:22.940
had entered
00:22:24.480
these pre-trial agreements
00:22:25.640
that had been negotiated
00:22:27.300
by military prosecutors
00:22:28.720
with KSM
00:22:30.040
and some of the other
00:22:30.860
9-11 defendants.
00:22:32.760
And we had no role
00:22:34.460
in that process.
00:22:35.220
The president had no role.
00:22:36.220
The vice president
00:22:36.820
had no role.
00:22:37.520
I had no role.
00:22:38.280
The White House
00:22:38.880
had no role.
00:22:39.960
And we were informed
00:22:40.800
yesterday,
00:22:41.720
the same day
00:22:42.620
that they went out publicly,
00:22:44.140
that this pre-trial agreement
00:22:46.680
had been accepted
00:22:47.960
by the convening authority.
00:22:49.840
What the president did
00:22:50.860
upon learning of that
00:22:52.080
was direct his team
00:22:53.520
to consult as appropriate
00:22:55.680
with officials and lawyers
00:22:57.420
at the Department of Defense
00:22:58.500
on this matter.
00:22:59.640
Those consultations
00:23:00.640
are ongoing
00:23:01.360
and I have nothing more
00:23:02.260
to add at this time.
00:23:04.420
Well, of course
00:23:05.240
he has nothing more to add.
00:23:06.680
Yeah, like,
00:23:07.380
give me a break.
00:23:07.420
Of course he has nothing more to add.
00:23:08.520
And by the way,
00:23:09.140
Kareem Jean-Pierre,
00:23:10.160
our hearts go out to them.
00:23:11.500
No, they don't.
00:23:12.420
You didn't give a damn
00:23:13.620
because what Jake Sullivan
00:23:15.640
doesn't admit there
00:23:17.680
is why this plea deal
00:23:19.540
was reached.
00:23:20.160
And it was reached
00:23:21.020
because Joe Biden
00:23:24.040
and Kamala Harris
00:23:25.000
insisted on closing
00:23:26.780
Guantanamo Bay.
00:23:28.480
Play what Kareem Jean-Pierre
00:23:30.180
says where she
00:23:31.300
acknowledges that.
00:23:33.300
And a follow-up
00:23:34.100
on the 9-11 plea deal
00:23:35.360
with NA.
00:23:36.500
Does the president
00:23:36.940
still plan to close
00:23:38.420
Guantanamo Bay prison
00:23:39.680
before he leaves office?
00:23:40.740
And is there a realistic
00:23:41.480
pathway to do that
00:23:42.980
in the next six months?
00:23:43.960
That's still something
00:23:44.780
that the president
00:23:45.360
wants to do
00:23:46.200
and get done.
00:23:46.900
As far as a timeline,
00:23:48.540
don't have anything
00:23:49.740
for you here,
00:23:50.560
but obviously this is
00:23:51.520
something that he wanted
00:23:52.280
to be done
00:23:53.560
under his administration.
00:23:55.780
I just don't have
00:23:56.380
anything else to read out
00:23:57.680
or preview at this time,
00:23:58.900
but it is something
00:23:59.980
that he's determined
00:24:00.680
to get done.
00:24:01.760
Well, there it is,
00:24:02.700
Senator.
00:24:03.000
They just admitted it.
00:24:03.920
Yes, we had to get
00:24:05.140
this done now.
00:24:05.960
We had nothing to do
00:24:06.620
with it other than
00:24:07.260
we said we're closing
00:24:08.040
the prison he's in,
00:24:08.860
so you got to do it.
00:24:10.320
Yeah, because Ann
00:24:11.280
has plans to do it
00:24:12.560
by January the 20th,
00:24:14.040
right?
00:24:14.300
So we're on a time frame
00:24:15.680
here.
00:24:15.960
We got to go.
00:24:16.820
There's a political
00:24:17.560
priority here.
00:24:18.600
And so, you know,
00:24:19.860
when she said,
00:24:20.620
oh, you know,
00:24:21.480
our hearts go out
00:24:22.560
to the victims' families.
00:24:24.140
Well, no, they don't.
00:24:25.600
He's determined
00:24:26.400
to get this done
00:24:27.260
because this is
00:24:28.520
a political priority
00:24:30.400
and the people
00:24:31.740
who are at risk,
00:24:33.560
apparently,
00:24:34.160
they're not the priority.
00:24:35.880
I got to ask you
00:24:36.840
a legal question
00:24:37.540
because there's a lot
00:24:38.180
of people that are
00:24:38.580
going to ask this
00:24:39.380
in their heads
00:24:40.460
and I'm going to ask you.
00:24:42.260
Donald Trump wins
00:24:43.380
re-election,
00:24:44.500
hypothetically.
00:24:45.340
He comes in.
00:24:47.160
Could he stop
00:24:47.860
the closing of Guantanamo Bay,
00:24:49.400
number one?
00:24:49.800
But before you even
00:24:50.800
answer that,
00:24:51.440
the second question is,
00:24:53.220
is it possible
00:24:54.220
at his direction
00:24:55.540
and his administration's
00:24:57.580
direction
00:24:58.000
to undo this plea deal
00:25:00.280
with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed?
00:25:01.680
Or once it's done,
00:25:02.860
is this done
00:25:03.740
and it cannot be undone?
00:25:05.840
So the two questions
00:25:07.120
on the first one,
00:25:08.100
if Guantanamo
00:25:08.800
was not yet closed,
00:25:10.940
yes,
00:25:11.280
it would be possible
00:25:12.120
to stop the closing
00:25:13.220
of Guantanamo.
00:25:13.900
And understand,
00:25:14.800
we have a military base there.
00:25:16.580
That's not closing.
00:25:17.940
But at Guantanamo,
00:25:19.280
we have built
00:25:20.760
detention facilities
00:25:21.960
where we have held
00:25:23.340
terrorists from 9-11
00:25:25.880
and we held them there
00:25:28.900
in part because,
00:25:31.320
although it's under control
00:25:32.620
of the U.S. government,
00:25:34.560
it's not in U.S. territory
00:25:36.900
in the mainland
00:25:37.520
and that was part of the reason
00:25:38.900
they were held there.
00:25:40.300
If the Guantanamo
00:25:41.560
detention facility
00:25:42.340
had not already been closed,
00:25:43.880
then yes,
00:25:44.380
Trump could reverse that.
00:25:45.800
But your second question,
00:25:48.020
the answer,
00:25:48.680
unfortunately,
00:25:49.200
is no.
00:25:49.700
If the plea deal
00:25:50.380
is entered into
00:25:51.180
and it's agreed to
00:25:53.800
and a court,
00:25:55.520
they plead guilty
00:25:56.920
and a court takes
00:25:57.820
that guilty plea,
00:25:59.900
the fact that
00:26:00.960
a new president
00:26:01.600
comes in
00:26:02.240
and changes his mind
00:26:03.960
absent
00:26:05.100
extraordinary circumstances,
00:26:08.040
there's no way
00:26:08.720
to undo that.
00:26:11.000
Would there be
00:26:11.600
a possibility
00:26:12.440
of charging him
00:26:14.420
with new
00:26:15.040
or different crimes
00:26:15.980
he maybe hasn't been
00:26:16.860
charged with in the past
00:26:17.960
or would those
00:26:18.480
statute of limitations
00:26:19.320
be gone?
00:26:20.100
Because there's going
00:26:20.820
to be people
00:26:21.320
that are going to say
00:26:21.800
we want there
00:26:22.620
to be justice.
00:26:24.540
Yeah, look,
00:26:25.020
it would depend.
00:26:26.220
It depends on
00:26:26.900
what's covered
00:26:28.880
in this plea deal
00:26:29.920
and what crimes
00:26:31.840
he's pleading to.
00:26:33.080
So if you had
00:26:33.580
totally brand new crimes
00:26:35.420
that are not covered
00:26:36.540
in the plea deal,
00:26:37.280
you could potentially
00:26:38.320
charge him for that
00:26:39.140
but that would take
00:26:39.840
the evidence
00:26:40.940
to convict him
00:26:41.660
of those brand new crimes
00:26:42.780
and I don't know
00:26:44.020
if we have that evidence
00:26:44.820
or not.
00:26:45.960
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00:26:50.060
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00:26:50.820
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00:27:17.600
that Joe Biden
00:27:18.340
cared about the victims
00:27:19.340
of 9-11
00:27:19.880
I think we've answered
00:27:20.600
that question.
00:27:21.220
The answer is obviously no.
00:27:22.980
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00:27:23.860
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00:27:25.080
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00:27:26.380
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00:27:28.020
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00:27:29.220
Well,
00:27:29.460
with the southern border
00:27:30.260
wide open
00:27:30.860
I think we can answer
00:27:31.820
that question
00:27:32.660
pretty easily.
00:27:33.440
But then we get
00:27:34.780
this new shocking report
00:27:36.420
that the illegal
00:27:37.700
Jordanian migrants
00:27:39.320
who tried to breach
00:27:41.220
Quantico base
00:27:43.900
were allowed to walk free
00:27:45.980
after posting bail.
00:27:48.620
This is a national security risk
00:27:51.320
at a high level
00:27:52.500
and they're like
00:27:53.340
oh you're an illegal
00:27:54.000
oh you came in
00:27:54.880
oh you're from a part
00:27:56.080
of the world
00:27:56.380
where there's a lot of terrorists
00:27:57.120
yeah we're going to let you
00:27:57.900
walk free.
00:27:58.520
How the hell
00:27:59.420
does this happen?
00:28:01.060
Well,
00:28:01.760
and this is something
00:28:02.320
we covered on the podcast
00:28:03.960
when it happened
00:28:04.660
that two Jordanian
00:28:06.900
illegal immigrants
00:28:07.740
were arrested on May 3rd
00:28:11.580
for trespassing
00:28:13.140
onto the military installation
00:28:14.820
onto the Quantico
00:28:15.960
Marine Corps base
00:28:17.740
and they were handed over
00:28:19.540
to ICE officers
00:28:20.380
because they were
00:28:21.080
illegal aliens.
00:28:22.020
One of them was
00:28:22.660
Hassan Yusuf Hamdan
00:28:24.200
who's 32
00:28:25.560
and the other was
00:28:26.400
Mohammed Qayyar Davos
00:28:28.380
who's 28.
00:28:29.180
and they were just released
00:28:34.640
on bail
00:28:36.760
Hamdan's bail
00:28:39.320
was set at $15,000
00:28:41.980
Davos' bail
00:28:42.940
was set at $10,000
00:28:44.080
and they were released
00:28:46.500
and let go
00:28:47.660
and we'll see if we ever
00:28:48.460
see them again
00:28:49.240
but understand Quantico
00:28:51.400
so it's home
00:28:53.960
to the FBI Academy
00:28:55.080
it's home
00:28:55.880
to the FBI Laboratory
00:28:56.920
it's home
00:28:58.480
to a Defense Intelligence
00:28:59.740
Agency facility
00:29:00.840
and it's home
00:29:01.500
to several
00:29:02.720
Marine Corps commands
00:29:04.380
including the unit
00:29:05.900
that flies
00:29:07.520
the Marine One
00:29:08.520
presidential helicopter
00:29:09.820
so we don't know
00:29:11.060
why they were trying
00:29:13.500
to get onto
00:29:13.940
the Quantico base
00:29:14.740
but there are a lot
00:29:15.600
of things there
00:29:16.420
that are
00:29:19.560
serious national security
00:29:22.420
priorities
00:29:23.020
or law enforcement
00:29:24.360
priorities
00:29:24.980
and to have
00:29:25.940
illegal immigrants
00:29:26.940
from the Middle East
00:29:28.700
trying to get on
00:29:30.440
there
00:29:30.580
as one federal
00:29:31.520
law enforcement
00:29:32.140
source told
00:29:33.100
the New York Post
00:29:33.900
quote
00:29:34.320
big time intel failure
00:29:36.400
security failure
00:29:37.540
if it wasn't
00:29:39.120
an act of terrorism
00:29:40.400
why aren't the
00:29:41.600
government officials
00:29:42.340
releasing the details
00:29:43.360
of this
00:29:43.860
what was the intent
00:29:45.940
and of course
00:29:47.560
Joe Biden
00:29:49.060
and Kamala Harris
00:29:49.760
are not answering
00:29:50.380
that question
00:29:50.980
they don't believe
00:29:52.000
apparently that they
00:29:52.840
owe the American people
00:29:54.060
an answer to that
00:29:55.060
question
00:29:55.500
and let's remind
00:29:56.920
the American people
00:29:57.960
of something we played
00:29:58.900
here
00:29:59.360
these types
00:30:01.120
of
00:30:01.840
breaches
00:30:03.060
are happening
00:30:03.940
on a
00:30:04.700
shocking
00:30:05.560
regular
00:30:06.860
basis
00:30:07.800
and this was
00:30:09.420
the warning
00:30:09.980
that happened
00:30:11.120
on Fox News
00:30:12.340
from a man
00:30:13.800
wearing a uniform
00:30:14.640
saying back in May
00:30:15.980
yeah this is happening
00:30:17.020
a lot more than
00:30:17.780
anyone realizes
00:30:18.840
military bases
00:30:19.860
getting penetrated
00:30:20.720
by foreign nationals
00:30:22.060
is happening
00:30:23.300
more and more
00:30:24.040
this is something
00:30:25.460
we see probably
00:30:26.180
two or three times
00:30:26.900
a week
00:30:27.320
where we're stopping
00:30:28.200
these folks
00:30:28.640
at the gate
00:30:29.340
a week
00:30:31.240
at least
00:30:32.640
and this is just
00:30:33.280
Navy alone
00:30:34.080
where we're seeing
00:30:35.720
folks try to come in
00:30:36.620
and usually the cover
00:30:37.380
story is
00:30:38.060
and I'm a student
00:30:39.800
you know I'm here
00:30:40.580
I'm an enthusiast
00:30:41.420
I want to see the ships
00:30:42.420
that type of thing
00:30:43.200
we have to turn them
00:30:43.860
around
00:30:44.180
and typically we get
00:30:45.400
NCIS involved with those
00:30:47.000
and we get biometrics
00:30:47.920
when possible
00:30:48.560
but yes there's been
00:30:49.760
an uptick in that
00:30:50.560
do they have passports
00:30:52.260
do they have
00:30:52.940
a lot of times
00:30:53.420
they have passports
00:30:54.360
they have papers
00:30:55.060
yes
00:30:55.400
but they're in no way
00:30:57.020
shape or form
00:30:57.820
authorized to be
00:30:58.600
on our base
00:30:59.260
and it's really hard
00:31:00.640
for us to tell
00:31:01.260
the underlying motive
00:31:02.060
for these type of cases
00:31:03.080
wow that's
00:31:03.780
that's stunning
00:31:04.540
it is
00:31:05.160
it's got to be a concern
00:31:06.560
this is Russian
00:31:07.340
Chinese
00:31:07.980
this comes from
00:31:09.340
all these different nations
00:31:11.120
we're seeing an uptick
00:31:12.340
in it
00:31:12.660
in addition to that
00:31:14.140
there's been some
00:31:14.780
reporting on this
00:31:15.500
over the last six months
00:31:16.680
you're getting
00:31:17.420
two or three drones
00:31:19.000
flying over military bases
00:31:21.620
in America
00:31:22.300
per week
00:31:23.500
that is no question
00:31:24.900
happening
00:31:25.180
how do you overcome that
00:31:26.400
well you know
00:31:27.040
we are improving
00:31:28.260
our capabilities
00:31:29.060
to detect that
00:31:30.020
to defend against that
00:31:31.220
to make sure
00:31:32.160
that our folks
00:31:32.740
are trained
00:31:33.280
to actually counter that
00:31:34.540
I do this under
00:31:35.680
my authorities
00:31:36.400
from U.S. Northern Command
00:31:37.920
as the component
00:31:38.800
commander for that
00:31:39.700
and so I have
00:31:40.960
great reporting on it
00:31:42.100
and generally
00:31:42.800
in general
00:31:43.640
we believe
00:31:44.220
it's mostly
00:31:44.820
just folks with drones
00:31:46.280
that you buy them
00:31:47.100
commercially
00:31:47.540
you know
00:31:48.040
from Amazon
00:31:48.560
or whatever
00:31:49.000
the case may be
00:31:49.820
but it's hard
00:31:51.180
to differentiate
00:31:51.640
between that
00:31:52.380
and a nation state
00:31:53.140
trying to do U.S.
00:31:54.040
I mean
00:31:55.100
they're acting like
00:31:56.420
this is just normal
00:31:57.320
in the United States
00:31:57.940
of America now
00:31:58.660
like oh yeah
00:31:59.200
we got people
00:31:59.700
coming into bases
00:32:00.460
we got these terrorists
00:32:02.000
coming across
00:32:02.660
the southern border
00:32:03.400
on a regular basis
00:32:04.460
on the terrorist watch list
00:32:05.680
yeah
00:32:06.260
and notice what he said
00:32:07.500
he says many of these
00:32:08.380
are Chinese and Russians
00:32:09.580
look these are
00:32:10.640
organized incursions
00:32:12.300
organized incursions
00:32:13.960
targeting our military bases
00:32:15.440
and in the case
00:32:16.980
of these two Jordanians
00:32:18.140
what happened
00:32:19.480
so they lied
00:32:20.300
to the guards
00:32:20.860
at Quantico
00:32:21.460
they claimed
00:32:22.520
that they worked
00:32:23.260
for an Amazon
00:32:23.980
subcontractor
00:32:25.640
and they were there
00:32:26.980
to make a delivery
00:32:27.860
and the officers
00:32:30.160
determined
00:32:30.740
that they were full of crap
00:32:31.760
that that was not true
00:32:32.780
and the men
00:32:34.020
who were in a box truck
00:32:35.180
ignored the instruction
00:32:37.200
of the guards
00:32:37.780
and tried to drive
00:32:38.820
directly onto the base
00:32:39.880
before they were stopped
00:32:40.940
by anti-vehicle barriers
00:32:42.900
and so look
00:32:45.940
this is deeply concerning
00:32:50.260
behavior
00:32:50.880
and the fact that
00:32:52.680
and both of them
00:32:54.180
were here illegally
00:32:54.980
Hamdan entered
00:32:55.860
the U.S. illegally
00:32:56.840
at San Diego
00:32:59.460
he came across
00:33:00.060
the southern border
00:33:00.760
in April
00:33:01.280
but you know
00:33:02.980
what happened
00:33:03.440
they released him
00:33:04.840
quote
00:33:05.260
due to lack
00:33:06.200
of detention space
00:33:07.460
DeBoost
00:33:08.880
was also in the U.S.
00:33:10.540
illegally
00:33:10.860
because he overstayed
00:33:11.980
his student visa
00:33:12.800
and so both of them
00:33:14.960
for whatever reason
00:33:16.560
for whatever motive
00:33:17.540
they decided
00:33:20.580
they were going to try
00:33:21.460
to breach Quantico
00:33:24.000
they were issued citations
00:33:27.960
for trespassing
00:33:28.880
and told to appear
00:33:31.140
in federal court
00:33:31.860
in Alexandria
00:33:32.500
and a magistrate judge
00:33:35.320
signed off
00:33:36.000
on their release
00:33:36.680
on the condition
00:33:37.280
that they continue
00:33:37.960
to appear
00:33:38.420
at future court dates
00:33:39.560
and they must also
00:33:41.440
refrain from trespassing
00:33:42.960
on any government
00:33:43.680
property
00:33:44.200
including the Quantico
00:33:45.540
facility
00:33:46.100
like this
00:33:48.400
is truly absurd
00:33:50.120
and as I said
00:33:51.400
at the outset
00:33:51.960
this week
00:33:53.940
is a very good week
00:33:55.060
if you're a terrorist
00:33:56.080
this week
00:33:56.740
is a very good week
00:33:58.020
if you want
00:33:59.540
to threaten
00:34:00.120
the national security
00:34:01.040
of this country
00:34:01.680
it's a terrible week
00:34:02.660
if you actually care
00:34:04.100
about keeping
00:34:04.560
Americans safe
00:34:05.360
yeah
00:34:06.200
this is why
00:34:06.940
this upcoming election
00:34:08.320
is going to be
00:34:08.900
so important
00:34:09.740
in this country
00:34:10.460
don't forget
00:34:11.380
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00:34:11.980
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00:34:18.020
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00:34:19.100
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00:34:20.000
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00:34:20.520
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00:34:21.100
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00:34:21.640
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00:34:23.100
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00:34:24.000
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00:34:24.960
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00:34:27.420
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00:34:28.820
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