Verdict with Ted Cruz - July 31, 2024


Bombshell Secret Service Testimony about Trump Assassination Attempt plus Israel Taking Out Hezbollah & Hamas Senior Leadership!


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

164.0278

Word Count

7,238

Sentence Count

356

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary


Transcript

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00:00:05.200 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:00:07.720 Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.380 Senator, yesterday, my oh my,
00:00:12.000 was it an interesting day on Capitol Hill.
00:00:14.460 And let's start with the headline.
00:00:15.840 We were supposed to get some answers
00:00:17.500 about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
00:00:20.500 You asked direct questions to the acting director.
00:00:24.920 Did we find out anything about how this happened?
00:00:27.560 Well, we had a blockbuster hearing yesterday
00:00:30.200 in the Senate Judiciary Committee
00:00:31.500 with the acting director of the Secret Service
00:00:33.900 and the deputy director of the FBI.
00:00:36.540 And it was designed to really get to the bottom
00:00:38.720 of what went wrong in Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:00:41.180 What the Secret Service did wrong
00:00:42.960 and how do we fix it?
00:00:45.560 And I got to say, it was frustrating.
00:00:47.460 It was maddening.
00:00:48.360 We saw an enormous amount of stonewalling.
00:00:51.100 We're going to walk through exactly
00:00:52.500 what happened in that hearing.
00:00:54.600 Also, we've got major breaking news
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00:01:00.060 and Hamas being taken out by Israel
00:01:03.660 in the last 24 hours.
00:01:05.580 A big, big victory for Israel.
00:01:07.940 A big, big victory for America.
00:01:10.400 We're going to walk you through that right now.
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00:03:07.320 Senator, so set the stage for us real quick.
00:03:09.700 I want to play, obviously,
00:03:11.540 your back and forth
00:03:12.620 with the acting director,
00:03:14.400 as you got to ask a lot of questions,
00:03:16.320 and it didn't go well for him.
00:03:17.920 It's made a lot of headlines.
00:03:19.760 But set the stage
00:03:21.060 of how important this hearing was
00:03:22.920 and why it was taking place.
00:03:25.180 So this was yesterday morning.
00:03:27.540 It was a joint hearing
00:03:28.600 of the Senate Judiciary Committee
00:03:29.920 and the Senate Committee
00:03:31.460 on Homeland Security.
00:03:33.180 And we had the acting director
00:03:35.620 of the Secret Service,
00:03:36.660 the former director,
00:03:38.000 has finally resigned
00:03:39.240 given the catastrophic failures we saw.
00:03:41.840 And the deputy director of the FBI.
00:03:44.460 And so it was a hearing
00:03:45.520 that went all morning.
00:03:46.700 And I got to say,
00:03:47.720 there was enormous concern,
00:03:49.700 enormous skepticism.
00:03:50.740 We saw it from both Republicans
00:03:52.680 and Democrats
00:03:53.400 who were asking about
00:03:55.720 the disastrous failures
00:03:57.320 of the Secret Service.
00:03:59.020 And listen,
00:03:59.980 the acting director,
00:04:01.440 he is somewhat better
00:04:04.360 than the old director.
00:04:05.280 The old director was brazen.
00:04:07.540 She was defiant.
00:04:08.840 Her view was,
00:04:09.820 we owe nothing.
00:04:10.880 We owe no accountability.
00:04:12.200 We will not answer any question.
00:04:14.200 We did everything right.
00:04:16.300 To his credit,
00:04:17.360 the acting director
00:04:18.400 began his testimony
00:04:19.460 by saying,
00:04:20.880 we screwed up.
00:04:21.740 We screwed up really badly.
00:04:23.520 And the fact that
00:04:24.520 there was not an agent
00:04:25.420 on the roof
00:04:26.300 where the shooter was,
00:04:27.380 was utterly indefensible.
00:04:29.240 That's a step
00:04:29.840 in the right direction.
00:04:31.220 That being said,
00:04:32.860 he stonewalled,
00:04:34.080 and he stonewalled
00:04:34.940 in a way
00:04:35.380 that was infuriating.
00:04:37.060 And look,
00:04:37.660 rather than me
00:04:38.420 describe it to you,
00:04:39.980 just give a listen.
00:04:40.880 Here's my questioning
00:04:41.800 of the acting director
00:04:43.160 of the Secret Service
00:04:44.100 yesterday morning.
00:04:46.000 Thank you,
00:04:46.600 Mr. Chairman.
00:04:48.400 Mr. Rowe,
00:04:49.100 thank you for being here.
00:04:50.440 I agree with what you said
00:04:51.440 at the outset
00:04:51.980 that the individual
00:04:52.940 Secret Service agents
00:04:54.280 demonstrated remarkable
00:04:55.400 personal courage
00:04:56.300 putting their bodies
00:04:57.240 in between
00:04:58.440 the line of sight
00:04:59.220 of the shooter
00:04:59.660 and the president.
00:05:00.240 That being said,
00:05:02.800 the bravery
00:05:03.220 of the line agents
00:05:04.120 is quite different
00:05:04.900 from the decisions
00:05:05.720 of Secret Service leadership.
00:05:08.440 Secret Service leadership
00:05:09.680 committed catastrophic
00:05:11.580 security failures.
00:05:13.200 Indeed,
00:05:13.600 the worst security failures
00:05:15.020 for the Secret Service
00:05:16.640 since 1981,
00:05:18.540 since the attempted assassination
00:05:19.960 of President Ronald Reagan.
00:05:21.980 It is incumbent
00:05:23.240 upon this committee
00:05:25.540 to determine
00:05:26.220 why
00:05:26.880 those security failures happened.
00:05:28.960 Just after the shooting,
00:05:33.500 Secret Service put out
00:05:34.780 an official statement
00:05:35.660 from your spokesperson
00:05:36.560 that says
00:05:37.320 there's an untrue assertion
00:05:38.500 that a member
00:05:39.240 of the former president's team
00:05:40.420 requested additional
00:05:41.260 security resources
00:05:42.220 and that those were rebuffed.
00:05:43.860 This is absolutely false.
00:05:45.760 In fact,
00:05:46.200 we added protective resources
00:05:47.560 and technology
00:05:48.320 and capabilities
00:05:49.020 as part of the increased
00:05:50.180 campaign travel tempo.
00:05:52.060 Was this tweet accurate?
00:05:54.660 With respect to
00:05:55.800 Butler, Pennsylvania,
00:05:56.860 it is accurate, sir.
00:05:57.800 It is accurate
00:05:59.980 that
00:06:01.660 the Trump team
00:06:03.760 had not asked
00:06:04.540 for additional security
00:06:05.820 and had not been rebuffed.
00:06:07.400 If you're talking
00:06:08.400 about Butler, Pennsylvania,
00:06:09.720 all assets requested
00:06:10.960 were approved.
00:06:11.840 If you're talking
00:06:12.340 about the media reporting
00:06:14.320 of assets requested,
00:06:16.960 there were times
00:06:18.460 when assets
00:06:19.640 were unavailable
00:06:21.440 and not able
00:06:22.220 to be filled
00:06:23.220 and those gaps
00:06:24.280 were staffed
00:06:25.260 with state
00:06:26.180 and local law enforcement
00:06:27.100 tactical assets.
00:06:28.080 So I'm reading
00:06:29.440 from the Washington Post
00:06:30.720 July 20th, 2024.
00:06:32.660 Secret Service
00:06:33.300 denied requests
00:06:34.520 for more security
00:06:35.240 at Trump events.
00:06:36.100 The opening paragraph.
00:06:37.200 Top officials
00:06:37.740 of the U.S. Secret Service
00:06:38.820 repeatedly denied requests
00:06:40.560 for additional resources
00:06:41.600 and personnel
00:06:42.160 sought by Donald Trump's
00:06:43.360 security detail
00:06:44.100 in the two years
00:06:44.860 leading up to
00:06:45.760 his attempted assassination.
00:06:46.940 according to four people
00:06:49.240 familiar with the requests.
00:06:50.880 Is that right?
00:06:51.640 That repeatedly
00:06:52.440 the Trump detail
00:06:53.840 asked for more resources
00:06:55.060 and repeatedly
00:06:55.740 Secret Service leadership
00:06:56.880 turned that down?
00:06:58.620 That is not accurate,
00:06:59.900 Senator.
00:07:00.960 Assets are requested.
00:07:02.440 There's a process
00:07:03.120 that is made.
00:07:05.360 How many requests
00:07:06.200 did the Trump team
00:07:07.660 or the Trump detail
00:07:08.400 ask for?
00:07:09.460 I can get you
00:07:10.420 that number
00:07:10.940 in a queue for a second.
00:07:11.460 You don't know now.
00:07:12.860 I can speak to the ones
00:07:13.960 that were reported
00:07:14.580 in the Washington Post
00:07:15.700 and we can go through them
00:07:16.640 if you like.
00:07:17.420 But you don't know
00:07:18.200 how many requests
00:07:19.240 there were?
00:07:20.620 In general,
00:07:21.340 how many requests
00:07:22.080 since 2021
00:07:23.040 that the former Trump detail
00:07:24.180 has made a request
00:07:25.060 for assets?
00:07:25.340 You've had two weeks.
00:07:26.480 You had a spokesperson
00:07:27.180 put something out
00:07:28.220 that is false
00:07:29.220 on its face.
00:07:30.120 By the way,
00:07:30.500 did you approve
00:07:31.060 this statement
00:07:31.500 when it went out?
00:07:33.040 I don't know
00:07:34.040 if I did or didn't,
00:07:35.100 Senator.
00:07:35.140 Has this spokesperson,
00:07:36.340 is he still employed?
00:07:37.220 Does he still have a job?
00:07:37.960 He is still employed, Senator.
00:07:38.640 So he lied
00:07:39.280 on behalf of the Secret Service.
00:07:40.540 He still has a job.
00:07:41.780 Did your predecessor,
00:07:42.740 the former director,
00:07:43.500 does she approve
00:07:44.040 this statement?
00:07:45.320 Senator,
00:07:45.720 our comms team,
00:07:48.120 they send out statements,
00:07:50.240 they do deconflict them
00:07:51.620 and they put them out.
00:07:52.960 Did she approve
00:07:53.920 this statement?
00:07:55.220 I don't know
00:07:55.980 if she did or did not.
00:07:57.060 And you don't know
00:07:57.560 if you did either?
00:07:58.580 I don't recall
00:07:59.540 approving it, Senator.
00:08:01.880 Will you commit
00:08:02.660 to provide
00:08:03.260 this committee
00:08:03.820 in writing
00:08:04.420 every written request
00:08:06.740 for additional resources
00:08:08.180 from the Trump campaign
00:08:09.400 or the Trump detail
00:08:10.320 and every response
00:08:11.960 from Secret Service?
00:08:13.480 Senator,
00:08:14.120 I will commit
00:08:14.720 to providing responses
00:08:15.960 and getting you
00:08:17.120 the information
00:08:17.740 that you're seeking.
00:08:20.920 May I ask you something?
00:08:22.960 And who makes
00:08:24.160 the decision
00:08:24.700 to deny those requests?
00:08:26.020 Did you make that decision?
00:08:27.700 Which requests?
00:08:28.600 Are you talking
00:08:28.900 about the ones
00:08:29.320 that were in the Washington Post?
00:08:30.840 Yes.
00:08:31.520 The process, sir,
00:08:32.580 is that a detail
00:08:34.440 will make a request
00:08:35.920 for either staffing,
00:08:36.760 technical assets
00:08:37.880 that is handled
00:08:39.660 between the field office
00:08:41.300 and the detail.
00:08:42.260 It goes up
00:08:42.740 to a logistics office
00:08:44.360 between our office.
00:08:45.860 Okay, so there's
00:08:46.480 a bureaucracy.
00:08:47.300 Is there a decision maker?
00:08:48.400 It's not a bureaucracy,
00:08:49.460 Senator.
00:08:49.640 Give me the person
00:08:50.300 that's a decision maker.
00:08:51.480 Is there one?
00:08:53.240 Senator,
00:08:53.980 it's a conversation.
00:08:55.420 It's not just
00:08:55.980 an absolute yay or nay.
00:08:57.300 So let me tell you
00:08:58.020 what I believe.
00:08:58.780 I believe
00:08:59.420 that the Secret Service
00:09:00.780 leadership
00:09:01.380 made a political decision
00:09:02.960 to deny these requests.
00:09:05.660 And I think
00:09:06.200 the Biden administration
00:09:07.260 has been suffused
00:09:08.560 with partisan politics.
00:09:10.460 Did the same person
00:09:11.340 who denied the request
00:09:12.340 for additional security
00:09:13.340 to President Trump
00:09:14.220 also repeatedly deny
00:09:15.940 the request for security
00:09:17.240 to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,
00:09:18.780 whose father was murdered
00:09:20.160 by an assassin
00:09:20.920 and whose uncle
00:09:22.040 was murdered by an assassin?
00:09:23.620 Did the same person
00:09:24.320 make that decision?
00:09:25.380 Senator,
00:09:26.020 what I will tell you
00:09:26.860 is that Secret Service agents
00:09:28.500 are not political.
00:09:29.800 Okay, you're not answering my question.
00:09:31.060 But you know what?
00:09:31.840 Leadership appointed
00:09:32.700 by the President
00:09:35.220 is political.
00:09:36.780 I have a simple question.
00:09:38.060 Yes or no.
00:09:39.120 Did the same person
00:09:40.980 deny the Trump request
00:09:43.000 that also denied
00:09:44.020 the RFK request?
00:09:45.180 That's a yes or no question.
00:09:46.680 Senator,
00:09:47.520 that is not a yes or no question.
00:09:50.000 One,
00:09:50.780 there is a process
00:09:51.580 for a candidate nominee
00:09:52.760 to receive protection.
00:09:54.020 Does the buck stop anywhere?
00:09:55.860 Does the buck stop anywhere?
00:09:57.420 Bipartisan process
00:09:58.500 that the Hill participants...
00:09:59.220 It's a bicameral,
00:10:00.900 bipartisan process?
00:10:01.940 For a candidate...
00:10:03.420 You are not a Congress.
00:10:04.760 You don't have a camera.
00:10:05.760 Mr. Kennedy submitted
00:10:06.940 a request
00:10:07.640 that was referred over
00:10:09.000 to the CPAC.
00:10:10.040 Okay, you're refusing
00:10:11.040 to answer the question.
00:10:12.220 Let me ask,
00:10:12.780 because the failures
00:10:13.600 on that day
00:10:14.320 were catastrophic.
00:10:15.080 By the way,
00:10:16.100 is it true that
00:10:16.960 on the day
00:10:17.480 of the Butler event
00:10:18.780 that Secret Service
00:10:19.700 transferred agent
00:10:20.580 from President Trump
00:10:21.600 to the First Lady?
00:10:23.920 No, sir.
00:10:24.640 That's not true.
00:10:25.440 That's been widely reported.
00:10:27.020 It's not true.
00:10:27.960 There was one airport agent
00:10:29.260 that actually went on
00:10:30.200 the manpower request
00:10:31.160 for the Trump detail.
00:10:32.320 They handled the arrival
00:10:33.320 at the airport
00:10:33.860 for the First Lady.
00:10:34.900 What was the relative size
00:10:36.460 of the Trump detail
00:10:37.600 compared to the detail
00:10:38.800 that is assigned
00:10:39.480 to the President
00:10:40.040 or the First Lady?
00:10:42.300 Senator,
00:10:43.000 the former President
00:10:44.040 travels with a full shift,
00:10:45.520 just like the President.
00:10:46.680 What's the...
00:10:47.260 So the exact same size?
00:10:48.660 Is that your testimony
00:10:49.480 that President Trump
00:10:50.660 had the same size detail
00:10:51.880 that President Biden has?
00:10:53.400 On the day of in Butler,
00:10:55.080 the agents surrounding him,
00:10:56.500 it is the same number
00:10:57.800 of agents
00:10:58.280 surrounding the President today.
00:10:59.580 There is a difference
00:11:00.640 between a sitting President
00:11:01.820 who also not only...
00:11:03.580 Hold on.
00:11:04.160 You're using President
00:11:04.920 in a way that is not clear.
00:11:06.300 Is it your testimony
00:11:07.360 that in Butler, Pennsylvania,
00:11:10.020 Donald Trump
00:11:10.800 had the same number
00:11:11.840 of agents protecting him
00:11:13.200 that Joe Biden
00:11:14.380 has at a comparable event?
00:11:16.500 I'm telling you,
00:11:17.480 the shift,
00:11:18.060 the close protection shift
00:11:19.280 surrounding...
00:11:19.820 That's what you asked me,
00:11:21.020 Senator.
00:11:21.420 I'm trying to answer it.
00:11:22.940 You are not answering it.
00:11:24.260 Is it the same number
00:11:25.000 of agents or not?
00:11:26.660 Senator,
00:11:27.240 there is a difference
00:11:28.080 between the sitting President
00:11:29.460 of the United States.
00:11:30.600 Then what's the difference?
00:11:31.700 The difference?
00:11:32.460 2X, 3X, 5X, 10X?
00:11:33.920 National Command Authority
00:11:35.120 to launch a nuclear strike, sir.
00:11:36.980 I'm not asking
00:11:37.520 how many more agents...
00:11:39.620 ...travel with the President
00:11:40.520 that the former President
00:11:41.920 will not get.
00:11:42.700 But the number of Secret Service
00:11:44.580 agents protecting him...
00:11:46.100 Stop interrupting me.
00:11:47.660 Go ahead, Senator.
00:11:48.220 ...you are refusing
00:11:48.820 to answer clear
00:11:49.900 and direct questions.
00:11:51.820 I am asking
00:11:52.740 the relative difference
00:11:54.020 in the number of agents
00:11:55.260 between those assigned
00:11:57.220 to Donald Trump
00:11:57.860 and those assigned
00:11:58.700 to Joe Biden.
00:11:59.500 I'm not asking
00:12:00.260 why you assign more
00:12:01.500 to Joe Biden.
00:12:02.160 I'm asking,
00:12:03.020 is the difference,
00:12:03.780 is it 2X?
00:12:04.660 Is it 3X?
00:12:05.760 Is it 5X?
00:12:06.860 Is it 10X?
00:12:08.340 Senator,
00:12:08.800 I will get you that number
00:12:09.920 so you can see it
00:12:10.720 with your own eyes.
00:12:12.560 Senator,
00:12:13.280 number one,
00:12:14.760 let's start at the end.
00:12:16.660 He says he will get you
00:12:17.820 those numbers.
00:12:18.920 This is not a hard question
00:12:20.480 you asked about
00:12:21.200 the difference
00:12:21.740 in the details.
00:12:23.180 And yet,
00:12:23.760 he clearly didn't want
00:12:25.440 to answer that question.
00:12:26.400 Is that because
00:12:27.140 we're going to be so shocked
00:12:28.200 by what that answer is?
00:12:30.760 So listen,
00:12:31.700 he engaged
00:12:32.440 in a very deliberate
00:12:33.620 effort at deception.
00:12:37.240 He said the close
00:12:38.620 protective detail
00:12:39.840 is identical.
00:12:40.720 Now understand,
00:12:42.360 a Secret Service detail
00:12:43.840 that is protecting someone,
00:12:46.600 you have the close
00:12:47.660 protective detail,
00:12:48.640 which are the agents
00:12:49.300 that actually surround
00:12:50.240 the protectee.
00:12:51.680 You also have,
00:12:53.160 typically,
00:12:53.840 a perimeter
00:12:54.560 that is often
00:12:56.860 at three levels.
00:12:57.920 The close protection,
00:12:59.520 a second perimeter level,
00:13:00.900 that's often where
00:13:01.700 you see magnetometers,
00:13:03.000 that's often where
00:13:03.580 you see people examined,
00:13:04.860 and then you have
00:13:05.820 the furthest out perimeter.
00:13:06.940 What he did not
00:13:09.340 want to answer
00:13:10.220 is how many agents
00:13:13.160 were protecting
00:13:14.500 Donald Trump,
00:13:15.780 how many agents
00:13:17.260 typically protect
00:13:18.180 Joe Biden,
00:13:18.900 and by the way,
00:13:19.860 how many agents
00:13:20.680 protect the first lady,
00:13:22.040 Jill Biden.
00:13:22.860 Now I can tell you,
00:13:23.840 following up this
00:13:24.620 cross-examination,
00:13:26.760 we have what are called
00:13:28.160 QFRs,
00:13:28.960 questions for the record.
00:13:30.440 So I am submitting
00:13:31.620 written questions.
00:13:33.940 I am asking
00:13:34.720 the acting director
00:13:36.360 of the Secret Service,
00:13:37.240 number one,
00:13:38.200 how many agents
00:13:38.860 were assigned
00:13:39.360 to Donald Trump?
00:13:40.640 Number two,
00:13:41.440 how many are typically
00:13:42.120 assigned to Joe Biden?
00:13:43.180 Number three,
00:13:43.780 how many are typically
00:13:44.360 assigned to the first lady?
00:13:45.760 Now to be clear,
00:13:46.960 and this is where,
00:13:48.000 listen,
00:13:48.400 there's some strategy
00:13:49.360 in terms of how you
00:13:51.120 approach a cross-examination
00:13:52.500 like this in a public hearing.
00:13:54.500 I did not ask him this
00:13:56.080 in a public hearing.
00:13:56.880 Why?
00:13:57.860 Because he would
00:13:58.600 refuse to answer.
00:13:59.300 What he would say
00:14:00.340 is I'm not going
00:14:02.340 to disclose to you
00:14:03.280 how many agents
00:14:04.020 are assigned
00:14:04.560 to Donald Trump
00:14:05.280 because that would
00:14:06.680 endanger the security
00:14:07.940 of the protective detail.
00:14:09.140 And that's a reasonable response.
00:14:11.720 It's why I didn't
00:14:12.260 ask the question
00:14:12.960 because there's something
00:14:15.180 that is known
00:14:15.840 as law enforcement confidential.
00:14:18.140 So when I ask him
00:14:20.060 a question for the record,
00:14:21.780 listen,
00:14:22.200 I have TSSCI clearance.
00:14:24.120 I have the top level
00:14:24.940 of security clearance
00:14:25.900 that exists in the government.
00:14:27.540 I want to know
00:14:29.560 the exact number.
00:14:31.220 How many frigging agents
00:14:32.620 were assigned to Trump?
00:14:34.180 How many were assigned
00:14:35.200 to the first lady?
00:14:36.020 How many were assigned
00:14:36.660 to the president?
00:14:37.800 I'm not going to reveal
00:14:38.880 those numbers.
00:14:39.460 So when I get them,
00:14:40.600 I'm assuming he will tell me.
00:14:42.860 If he tells me
00:14:43.840 they're law enforcement
00:14:44.640 confidential,
00:14:45.360 I'm not going to repeat
00:14:46.160 them on this podcast.
00:14:47.740 But what I am going
00:14:48.920 to repeat is what I asked him
00:14:50.580 that he refused to answer.
00:14:51.600 What is the relative difference?
00:14:54.660 I understand Joe Biden,
00:14:56.740 the sitting president's detail
00:14:57.980 is larger than Trump's.
00:15:00.860 But by what margin?
00:15:03.160 Is it double?
00:15:04.300 Is it triple?
00:15:05.700 Is it 5x?
00:15:06.900 Is it 10x?
00:15:08.120 He did not want
00:15:09.540 to answer that question.
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00:15:44.580 Let's also go back
00:15:46.600 to some other questions
00:15:48.900 that were asked of him.
00:15:50.400 And I think these are important.
00:15:51.820 One of them came
00:15:52.660 from one of your good friends
00:15:53.840 and colleagues,
00:15:54.620 Mike Lee.
00:15:55.700 A very simple question.
00:15:57.220 Take a listen.
00:15:58.560 No information
00:15:59.340 regarding a weapon
00:16:00.520 on the roof
00:16:01.420 was ever passed
00:16:02.360 to our personnel.
00:16:04.680 How is that even possible?
00:16:07.300 Do you want to comment to that?
00:16:09.120 Senator,
00:16:09.800 again,
00:16:10.380 I believe that information,
00:16:12.080 and this is probably something
00:16:14.100 my colleague
00:16:14.840 can expound on,
00:16:16.220 information that was
00:16:18.080 in law enforcement,
00:16:19.660 local law enforcement channels,
00:16:20.920 but did not cross over
00:16:22.520 and make it
00:16:23.140 to Secret Service awareness.
00:16:24.820 I mean,
00:16:25.480 that might be
00:16:26.200 one of the worst answers
00:16:27.120 I've ever heard,
00:16:27.900 Senator.
00:16:28.080 And the fact
00:16:29.160 that he's confirming
00:16:30.380 what we were terrified of,
00:16:33.140 which is no information
00:16:34.480 regarding a weapon
00:16:35.480 on the roof
00:16:36.120 or the shooter
00:16:36.580 on the roof
00:16:36.940 was ever
00:16:37.780 passed to our personnel.
00:16:40.240 Now,
00:16:40.380 when he refers
00:16:40.980 to our personnel,
00:16:42.320 he's clearly referring
00:16:43.780 to those
00:16:44.460 in the Secret Service
00:16:45.620 or the Secret Service
00:16:46.600 sniper team.
00:16:48.260 And Mike Lee's response
00:16:49.760 is spot on, right?
00:16:50.940 How is that even possible?
00:16:54.060 Yeah, look,
00:16:55.120 this was,
00:16:56.220 as I said,
00:16:57.420 a catastrophic
00:16:58.260 security failure
00:16:59.520 by the leadership
00:17:00.880 of the Secret Service.
00:17:01.980 They are not
00:17:02.580 taking responsibility
00:17:03.740 for that failure.
00:17:05.260 Now,
00:17:05.460 I got to tell you,
00:17:06.040 the way this hearing
00:17:06.980 was set up,
00:17:08.120 we had five-minute rounds.
00:17:10.240 It is difficult
00:17:11.100 to walk through
00:17:11.960 the details
00:17:12.580 of what you need
00:17:13.220 to get through
00:17:13.660 in five minutes.
00:17:14.340 I ended up taking
00:17:15.000 about seven,
00:17:16.160 which meant I went
00:17:16.860 about two minutes over.
00:17:18.080 And that's always leery.
00:17:20.000 But let me tell you
00:17:20.960 some of the other questions
00:17:21.920 that I had
00:17:22.560 that I was prepared to ask.
00:17:24.080 But because the acting director
00:17:25.860 of the Secret Service
00:17:26.680 was filibustering
00:17:27.520 to some extent,
00:17:28.700 he was interrupting me
00:17:29.960 to some extent,
00:17:30.740 he was belligerent
00:17:31.920 to a significant extent,
00:17:33.660 I didn't get to them.
00:17:34.760 But there are a whole series
00:17:35.660 of questions
00:17:36.280 that need to be answers.
00:17:38.680 And by the way,
00:17:39.380 I'm asking every one
00:17:40.840 of these questions
00:17:41.640 in writing.
00:17:43.060 So in a follow-up
00:17:43.720 to a hearing,
00:17:44.260 you ask written questions.
00:17:46.060 Number one,
00:17:47.240 the shooter,
00:17:48.640 when he came
00:17:49.500 into the rally site
00:17:51.960 in Butler, Pennsylvania,
00:17:53.320 he was stopped
00:17:54.320 by Secret Service
00:17:55.240 at the metal detectors.
00:17:57.340 He had a rangefinder
00:17:58.740 with him.
00:17:59.840 That was at 3 p.m.
00:18:02.420 Why did Secret Service
00:18:04.420 not detain him?
00:18:06.060 Why did they not
00:18:07.080 question him
00:18:07.880 about the rangefinder?
00:18:08.840 Now,
00:18:10.240 the acting director
00:18:11.560 of the Secret Service,
00:18:12.340 he said,
00:18:12.660 well,
00:18:13.080 it was a recreational
00:18:14.440 rangefinder.
00:18:15.260 It was like a golf rangefinder
00:18:16.840 that you used
00:18:17.460 to look the distance
00:18:18.660 of the pin.
00:18:19.160 Now,
00:18:19.380 you're right now,
00:18:20.520 you're with your son
00:18:21.980 at the World Championship.
00:18:23.340 You probably have
00:18:23.940 a golf rangefinder.
00:18:25.680 Yes, we do.
00:18:26.280 You know what?
00:18:27.260 You know what?
00:18:29.340 In Butler, Pennsylvania,
00:18:30.720 they weren't playing golf.
00:18:32.700 They weren't trying
00:18:33.800 to figure out
00:18:34.560 where the pin was.
00:18:36.120 There is no benign
00:18:37.700 or innocuous explanation
00:18:39.120 for why someone shows up
00:18:40.920 at a political rally
00:18:42.360 with a rangefinder.
00:18:43.980 So that's question number one.
00:18:45.500 Why didn't you detain him?
00:18:46.640 Why didn't you question him?
00:18:47.600 Why didn't you say,
00:18:48.140 why the hell do you have
00:18:48.740 this rangefinder?
00:18:49.420 They didn't.
00:18:50.840 After that,
00:18:52.340 two and a half hours later
00:18:53.680 at about 5.30,
00:18:55.580 the shooter was seen,
00:18:56.880 and by the way,
00:18:57.360 let me make an aside.
00:18:58.760 You will notice
00:18:59.400 on this podcast,
00:19:00.440 I will never,
00:19:01.080 ever, ever say
00:19:01.860 the name of the shooter.
00:19:02.620 I think people
00:19:05.240 that commit heinous acts
00:19:06.500 like this
00:19:07.100 are evil bastards
00:19:08.580 who deserve
00:19:09.220 to be forgotten
00:19:09.960 by history.
00:19:10.700 So I will never,
00:19:11.720 I'll call him the shooter,
00:19:13.120 but I will not repeat
00:19:14.020 his name.
00:19:15.060 But the shooter
00:19:15.780 at about 5.30
00:19:17.180 was observed
00:19:19.140 using the rangefinder
00:19:20.920 to measure the distance
00:19:22.800 from where he was
00:19:23.760 to the podium
00:19:25.140 where Donald Trump was.
00:19:27.280 The next obvious question,
00:19:29.400 why did,
00:19:32.040 was the shooter
00:19:33.500 not detained then,
00:19:35.280 questioned then?
00:19:35.900 He was observed
00:19:36.540 by law enforcement
00:19:37.560 scoping out the distance.
00:19:40.080 That is obvious
00:19:41.240 and highly suspicious activity.
00:19:43.820 Third question,
00:19:45.500 why were there not
00:19:46.280 more agents?
00:19:47.280 We had repeated requests
00:19:49.000 over and over and over again
00:19:50.340 from the Trump team.
00:19:51.300 We need more agents.
00:19:52.440 We need more agents.
00:19:53.200 Why were there not
00:19:53.700 more agents
00:19:54.200 in the outer perimeter?
00:19:55.020 Or why were there not
00:19:55.920 more agents?
00:19:57.140 On another question,
00:19:59.200 why was there not
00:20:00.120 a Secret Service agent
00:20:01.380 on that rooftop?
00:20:03.720 It is obvious.
00:20:04.460 It was about 140 yards
00:20:05.900 away from the president.
00:20:06.960 That is a clean line of sight
00:20:08.780 for a sniper.
00:20:09.600 That is not a difficult shot.
00:20:11.580 Why was there not
00:20:12.300 a Secret Service agent
00:20:13.300 on that roof
00:20:14.280 to ensure that
00:20:16.100 nobody else was there?
00:20:17.220 He did not answer
00:20:18.180 that question either.
00:20:19.920 Why?
00:20:20.560 Let me ask you this question.
00:20:21.960 Let me ask you this question
00:20:22.940 on that because there's
00:20:23.920 a lot of people
00:20:24.260 that ask me this
00:20:24.960 and I want you
00:20:25.940 to answer your perspective.
00:20:28.900 If they didn't have
00:20:30.180 a team, right?
00:20:31.160 There's been arguments
00:20:31.960 where maybe they didn't
00:20:32.460 have a team
00:20:32.860 to cover that roof
00:20:33.760 and so it was
00:20:35.080 lack of resources.
00:20:36.940 Assign the damn agents.
00:20:38.740 There are 4,000
00:20:41.000 Secret Service agents.
00:20:42.920 Assign the agents.
00:20:44.160 So one of the
00:20:44.660 fundamental problems
00:20:45.460 is the Secret Service,
00:20:47.480 I believe,
00:20:48.060 I haven't had this confirmed,
00:20:49.160 but here's what
00:20:49.540 I believe was happening.
00:20:50.940 They were treating
00:20:52.040 Donald Trump
00:20:52.900 as a former president.
00:20:54.140 Now listen,
00:20:54.740 former presidents
00:20:55.540 have Secret Service
00:20:57.640 protection for life.
00:20:59.200 So Jimmy Carter
00:21:00.420 right now,
00:21:01.560 who is almost
00:21:02.540 100 years old,
00:21:04.460 Jimmy Carter
00:21:05.020 has a Secret Service
00:21:05.940 detail.
00:21:06.480 Now to be honest,
00:21:08.020 that's right,
00:21:09.420 that's good,
00:21:10.000 but the threats
00:21:11.960 against Jimmy Carter
00:21:12.960 at this point
00:21:13.600 in his life
00:21:14.140 are very low.
00:21:16.060 There are just
00:21:16.540 not a lot of active...
00:21:17.400 And very different
00:21:17.520 than Trump.
00:21:19.020 There are not a lot
00:21:19.940 of active murderers
00:21:21.460 seeking to kill
00:21:22.260 Jimmy Carter
00:21:22.920 at the very end
00:21:24.520 of his natural life.
00:21:25.780 We know,
00:21:26.680 by the way,
00:21:27.540 the nation of Iran
00:21:28.980 has hired assassins
00:21:31.680 to murder Trump.
00:21:33.000 So you don't just have
00:21:34.460 crazy-ass lunatics
00:21:35.700 who want to shoot him.
00:21:36.500 You literally have
00:21:37.720 a nation-state
00:21:38.660 with billions of dollars
00:21:40.660 to fund assassins
00:21:41.940 to murder him.
00:21:43.120 And what I believe
00:21:43.880 the Secret Service...
00:21:44.620 Here's what I think
00:21:45.420 happened.
00:21:46.480 The Biden administration
00:21:48.000 is political
00:21:48.860 in every decision
00:21:49.700 it makes.
00:21:50.800 I think they didn't
00:21:52.480 want to up
00:21:53.580 Trump's security detail
00:21:55.400 because if they did so,
00:21:58.280 they would have to
00:21:59.560 acknowledge his legitimacy.
00:22:01.100 Listen,
00:22:01.440 Trump is not just
00:22:02.440 a former president
00:22:03.540 who's retired
00:22:05.020 and is off
00:22:05.900 like painting paintings
00:22:07.060 and building houses
00:22:08.560 for Habitat for Humanity.
00:22:10.440 He is the Republican
00:22:11.460 nominee to be president
00:22:12.540 right now.
00:22:13.340 He is, I think,
00:22:14.540 likely the next president
00:22:16.120 of the United States.
00:22:17.720 And the Biden administration,
00:22:20.180 I believe this was all politics.
00:22:22.040 The leadership
00:22:22.860 of the Secret Service
00:22:24.360 did not want to up his detail
00:22:25.900 because it would be
00:22:27.220 according credibility
00:22:28.640 and seriousness
00:22:29.580 to his campaign.
00:22:31.360 It is, I believe,
00:22:32.780 the identical reason
00:22:33.920 they refused repeatedly
00:22:36.420 to give a Secret Service
00:22:38.940 detail to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:22:40.800 Now listen,
00:22:41.620 you and I on this podcast
00:22:42.760 months ago
00:22:43.840 called them out
00:22:45.300 and said it is outrageous.
00:22:46.640 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,
00:22:47.800 his father,
00:22:50.440 RFK Sr.,
00:22:52.600 was murdered
00:22:53.880 when he was running
00:22:55.600 for president
00:22:56.080 of the United States.
00:22:57.160 His uncle, JFK,
00:22:59.280 was murdered
00:23:00.360 as the sitting president
00:23:02.340 of the United States.
00:23:03.640 RFK Jr.
00:23:04.560 has had multiple
00:23:05.440 death threats.
00:23:06.860 He has had multiple
00:23:07.880 attempts on his life.
00:23:09.360 And I believe
00:23:10.100 the reason
00:23:10.840 that the Biden administration
00:23:12.240 didn't give him
00:23:13.040 Secret Service protection
00:23:14.000 is they hate the fact
00:23:15.800 that another Democrat
00:23:17.220 is running against
00:23:18.120 what was then Joe Biden,
00:23:19.260 now Kamala Harris.
00:23:20.540 And if they gave
00:23:21.740 Secret Service protection
00:23:22.920 to him,
00:23:23.340 it would be acknowledging
00:23:24.200 he was legitimate.
00:23:24.960 that is,
00:23:26.480 if that is the basis,
00:23:27.740 it is a purely
00:23:28.940 political decision,
00:23:31.240 it is indefensible,
00:23:33.240 and we need
00:23:34.580 to get answers on it.
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00:25:44.020 Senator,
00:25:44.300 I want to ask you
00:25:44.900 another couple
00:25:45.560 quick questions about this
00:25:46.860 because there's so much
00:25:47.940 that came out
00:25:48.540 in this hearing.
00:25:49.640 One of them
00:25:50.460 you mentioned a moment ago
00:25:51.620 was about Iran.
00:25:53.900 And I want to play this
00:25:55.380 because I do think
00:25:56.540 it just shows
00:25:57.280 how shocking,
00:25:58.920 how unprepared
00:26:00.980 the Secret Service was
00:26:02.460 not just at this event
00:26:03.840 but maybe at many other events
00:26:05.240 that were supposed
00:26:06.000 to be protecting
00:26:06.800 Donald Trump.
00:26:08.180 What is the nature
00:26:09.460 of the Iran threat,
00:26:10.960 the threat to
00:26:12.780 former President Trump
00:26:13.860 that has been mentioned?
00:26:15.480 But we know
00:26:17.220 that let me be clear here
00:26:19.420 the terrorist regime
00:26:20.700 of Iran
00:26:22.360 have been
00:26:24.080 targeting people
00:26:25.560 or country
00:26:26.200 for many, many years now.
00:26:27.980 We've talked about
00:26:28.680 that here before.
00:26:29.460 I want to be clear
00:26:29.960 about that
00:26:30.380 from the FBI stamp
00:26:31.440 we have.
00:26:32.440 We know publicly
00:26:33.560 they've put
00:26:35.100 they've targeted
00:26:36.380 former President Trump.
00:26:38.440 They've called
00:26:39.080 for his assassination.
00:26:40.580 I mean that
00:26:42.360 they know this
00:26:43.340 and they say
00:26:43.740 they've been doing this
00:26:44.180 for years
00:26:44.680 and yet you let
00:26:45.860 this building
00:26:46.500 just sit unattended
00:26:48.000 and I go back
00:26:49.340 to the question
00:26:49.740 I asked you earlier
00:26:50.420 because it's a question
00:26:51.820 many have asked.
00:26:52.620 If let's just say
00:26:53.480 hypothetical center
00:26:54.420 they didn't have
00:26:55.360 the manpower
00:26:56.040 hypothetical for
00:26:57.220 the Secret Service
00:26:57.900 not have the manpower
00:26:58.640 get it
00:26:59.040 why wouldn't they
00:27:00.040 have used
00:27:00.560 those that were
00:27:02.100 on the ground
00:27:02.600 there locally
00:27:03.300 the SWAT teams
00:27:04.620 that were there locally
00:27:05.500 to cover that roof?
00:27:07.360 Well and to some extent
00:27:08.400 so the Secret Service
00:27:09.700 was trying to pass
00:27:10.640 the blame
00:27:11.000 to local law enforcement
00:27:11.960 they were saying
00:27:12.400 well local law enforcement
00:27:13.460 screwed up
00:27:14.920 and so they said
00:27:15.740 at one point
00:27:16.520 that there were
00:27:17.240 local SWAT teams
00:27:19.040 that were supposed
00:27:19.580 to be monitoring
00:27:20.240 that roof
00:27:20.880 and there's been
00:27:22.040 testimony that there
00:27:22.940 was a local SWAT team
00:27:23.900 there and then
00:27:24.400 they disappeared.
00:27:25.120 Now they won't
00:27:25.500 tell us who it was
00:27:26.440 they won't tell us
00:27:27.700 who made the decision
00:27:28.560 to leave that post
00:27:30.160 there has been
00:27:31.280 media reports
00:27:32.160 that there was
00:27:32.720 someone assigned
00:27:33.420 to be on that roof
00:27:34.160 but it was too hot
00:27:34.940 so they left.
00:27:36.080 We need to know
00:27:36.580 the answer to that
00:27:37.360 that is
00:27:38.560 they're not
00:27:39.540 but what the Secret Service
00:27:41.400 is trying to do
00:27:42.080 is pass the buck
00:27:42.860 to local law enforcement
00:27:43.800 and say local law enforcement
00:27:44.900 screwed up
00:27:45.440 but I'll tell you
00:27:46.300 a couple other questions
00:27:47.260 that I was going to ask
00:27:48.340 and that I am asking
00:27:50.480 in writing.
00:27:51.780 So we know
00:27:53.760 and we've seen the videos
00:27:54.900 in fact we played this
00:27:55.980 on this podcast
00:27:56.700 at the time
00:27:58.300 there were multiple
00:27:59.880 spectators
00:28:00.660 who were outside
00:28:01.500 the perimeter
00:28:02.000 who saw the shooter
00:28:03.400 on the roof
00:28:03.960 they saw the shooter
00:28:05.400 on the roof
00:28:05.920 with a gun
00:28:06.560 with a rifle
00:28:07.220 and they began
00:28:08.320 screaming and yelling
00:28:09.420 and saying
00:28:09.820 there's a man on the roof
00:28:10.700 a man on the roof
00:28:11.340 with a gun
00:28:11.740 they began doing that
00:28:14.360 one minute
00:28:15.440 and 57 seconds
00:28:17.320 before the shooting began
00:28:18.680 that's a lot of time
00:28:20.800 they told local law enforcement
00:28:23.380 it was a sign
00:28:24.140 at that outer perimeter
00:28:25.100 there's a man
00:28:26.380 on the roof
00:28:27.060 with a gun
00:28:27.580 now one of the
00:28:29.140 enormous problems
00:28:30.100 is there was
00:28:31.780 apparently
00:28:32.420 zero
00:28:33.420 coordination
00:28:35.060 communication
00:28:36.000 between local law enforcement
00:28:37.500 and secret service
00:28:38.940 so
00:28:39.620 a natural question
00:28:41.640 a minute and 57 seconds
00:28:42.960 before the shooting began
00:28:43.980 spectators observe
00:28:46.260 a man on the roof
00:28:47.540 with a gun
00:28:47.960 why
00:28:49.260 did the local police officers
00:28:51.380 who were there
00:28:51.960 not immediately radio
00:28:54.120 secret service
00:28:54.940 and say
00:28:55.480 there's a shooter
00:28:56.580 pull
00:28:58.380 president trump
00:28:59.560 down
00:29:00.020 that's what you do
00:29:01.680 in that circumstance
00:29:02.520 is you pull them down
00:29:03.620 if you have the protectee
00:29:05.600 and you know
00:29:06.580 that there's a potential sniper
00:29:07.940 and it's a dangerous situation
00:29:09.220 you go up
00:29:09.720 you pull them down
00:29:10.660 say miss president
00:29:11.320 you need to come down
00:29:12.000 for a second
00:29:12.380 and you just pull them
00:29:13.020 out of the harm's way
00:29:13.760 and then you go
00:29:14.880 and deal with
00:29:15.720 the law enforcement threat
00:29:16.640 why did they not do that
00:29:17.600 for a minute and 57 seconds
00:29:19.260 and what appears
00:29:20.260 to be the answer
00:29:20.940 but the acting director
00:29:22.280 would not answer it
00:29:23.160 is there was no
00:29:24.820 interoperability
00:29:25.960 there was no communication
00:29:27.200 between local
00:29:28.040 law enforcement
00:29:29.200 and the secret service
00:29:31.240 now it gets even worse
00:29:32.360 a local police officer
00:29:34.740 climbed up
00:29:35.580 on the shoulders
00:29:36.520 of another local police officer
00:29:37.860 climbed up to the roof
00:29:38.820 so when the people
00:29:39.800 are yelling
00:29:40.540 hey there's a guy
00:29:41.280 with a gun
00:29:41.720 he climbed up to see it
00:29:43.600 he climbs up to the roof
00:29:45.560 he pulls his head up
00:29:46.700 and the shooter turns
00:29:48.660 and points his rifle
00:29:50.680 at the officer's head
00:29:52.060 now the officer
00:29:53.660 ducks
00:29:54.840 because he doesn't want
00:29:55.640 to get shot in the head
00:29:56.420 and the testimony was
00:29:59.000 he fell about 8 feet
00:30:00.140 to the ground
00:30:00.660 that happened
00:30:02.940 24 seconds
00:30:05.040 before the first shot
00:30:07.720 was fired
00:30:08.380 now
00:30:09.420 in any ordinary
00:30:11.560 insane situation
00:30:12.640 the officer
00:30:13.240 as he sees the rifle
00:30:14.440 as he sees the man
00:30:15.400 on the roof
00:30:15.820 so he knows
00:30:16.620 you have a police officer
00:30:17.900 that knows
00:30:18.680 there's a shooter
00:30:19.420 with a rifle
00:30:20.120 on the roof
00:30:21.020 while the president
00:30:21.980 is talking
00:30:22.460 here's what
00:30:23.460 what should happen
00:30:24.540 the officer
00:30:25.980 as he's ducking down
00:30:27.660 he pulls out
00:30:28.300 his radio
00:30:30.080 and he says
00:30:31.300 gun
00:30:31.740 gun
00:30:32.200 gun
00:30:32.640 shooter
00:30:33.180 shooter
00:30:33.620 shooter
00:30:34.080 and if the secret service
00:30:35.780 hears that
00:30:36.220 they have 24 seconds
00:30:37.820 for the detail
00:30:39.420 to run up
00:30:40.100 to grab the president
00:30:41.380 to pull him down
00:30:42.180 under the podium
00:30:42.820 and by the way
00:30:43.880 they also have
00:30:44.840 two counter snipers
00:30:45.880 if they get over the radio
00:30:47.580 gun gun gun
00:30:48.680 shooter shooter
00:30:49.320 shooter
00:30:49.680 you've got 24 seconds
00:30:51.340 for the counter snipers
00:30:52.340 to see the sniper
00:30:53.360 see the shooter
00:30:54.180 and take him out
00:30:55.740 if that happens
00:30:57.280 president trump
00:30:58.900 is not shot
00:30:59.760 fire chief
00:31:01.560 cory comparatori
00:31:03.280 is not murdered
00:31:05.180 the two other people
00:31:07.000 who were severely injured
00:31:08.040 are not injured
00:31:08.940 and
00:31:10.100 what appears
00:31:11.560 to be the case
00:31:12.360 although the acting director
00:31:13.760 of the secret service
00:31:15.180 would not confirm this
00:31:16.200 is there was no
00:31:17.740 radio interoperability
00:31:19.400 in other words
00:31:20.120 what the local police
00:31:21.540 officer saw
00:31:22.380 he could not communicate
00:31:24.440 with secret service
00:31:25.600 and
00:31:26.440 and that is
00:31:27.880 utterly unacceptable
00:31:29.380 and what is infuriating
00:31:30.660 there was nothing
00:31:32.300 in the hearing yesterday
00:31:33.220 that suggested
00:31:34.960 they've changed
00:31:35.840 what they've done
00:31:36.500 so
00:31:36.780 if they're relying
00:31:38.040 on local law enforcement
00:31:39.200 for important security
00:31:40.500 and yet
00:31:41.460 they have no way
00:31:42.520 to communicate
00:31:43.320 with local law enforcement
00:31:45.380 about what they're seeing
00:31:46.600 it is fundamentally
00:31:48.080 ineffective
00:31:48.800 and
00:31:49.140 and the most important
00:31:50.500 question is
00:31:51.200 what are they doing
00:31:52.580 to prevent
00:31:54.420 this from happening
00:31:55.960 again
00:31:56.600 and there was
00:31:58.020 zero answer
00:31:59.080 to that question
00:31:59.860 in the hearing yesterday
00:32:00.760 final question
00:32:03.260 on this
00:32:03.820 and somebody
00:32:04.880 sent this to me
00:32:05.680 earlier today
00:32:06.100 and I'm just going to
00:32:06.660 read it the way
00:32:07.260 it was sent to me
00:32:07.900 it says quote
00:32:08.500 it's sad that we live
00:32:09.480 in a country now
00:32:10.440 we're a hard
00:32:12.280 working
00:32:13.020 regular guy
00:32:14.540 who goes to work
00:32:16.200 from 7 in the morning
00:32:17.280 till 9 o'clock
00:32:18.640 at night
00:32:19.160 8 o'clock
00:32:20.020 put in 50-60 hour
00:32:21.260 week
00:32:21.680 will quote
00:32:23.060 face more
00:32:24.240 professional consequences
00:32:25.740 for sharing an offensive
00:32:26.940 joke online
00:32:28.660 than the unelected
00:32:30.180 bureaucrats
00:32:30.980 tasked with protecting
00:32:32.280 our president
00:32:33.040 will face for almost
00:32:34.820 getting the leading
00:32:35.720 candidate killed
00:32:36.880 now
00:32:37.760 according to the
00:32:38.900 acting secret service
00:32:39.740 director
00:32:40.140 he admitted to you
00:32:41.240 guys yesterday
00:32:41.960 that no agent
00:32:43.360 assigned to the
00:32:44.260 Trump
00:32:44.620 July 13th rally
00:32:46.400 has been fired
00:32:48.320 and in fact
00:32:49.160 there's only
00:32:50.180 the secret
00:32:50.980 the head of the
00:32:51.880 secret service
00:32:52.260 that was forced
00:32:53.060 to resign
00:32:53.460 after a horrible
00:32:54.340 display on Capitol
00:32:55.180 Hill
00:32:55.460 but it doesn't
00:32:56.660 seem like there's
00:32:57.240 been any other
00:32:57.740 accountability
00:32:58.360 and that's sad
00:32:59.640 isn't it
00:33:00.180 it's infuriating
00:33:02.460 so as best I can
00:33:04.240 tell in in almost
00:33:05.380 four years of Joe
00:33:06.580 Biden Kamala Harris
00:33:07.580 being in the White
00:33:08.180 House
00:33:08.480 not a single
00:33:10.080 person
00:33:10.580 has been fired
00:33:12.200 from any job
00:33:13.260 whatsoever
00:33:13.660 you have the
00:33:14.880 disastrous
00:33:15.520 Afghanistan
00:33:16.200 withdrawal
00:33:16.740 it was an
00:33:17.380 absolute debacle
00:33:18.280 it was embarrassing
00:33:19.200 it undermined
00:33:20.380 the U.S. military
00:33:21.240 it led to the
00:33:22.120 deaths of 13
00:33:23.020 servicemen and
00:33:23.740 women
00:33:23.960 nobody was fired
00:33:25.420 there was no
00:33:25.980 accountability
00:33:26.460 you have here
00:33:28.040 the first
00:33:29.440 shooting of a
00:33:32.220 president
00:33:32.760 presidential candidate
00:33:34.500 a former president
00:33:35.540 since 1981
00:33:37.380 since Ronald Reagan
00:33:38.360 nobody was fired
00:33:40.080 like in any
00:33:40.880 sane world
00:33:41.620 the director
00:33:42.140 of the secret
00:33:42.520 service would
00:33:43.060 have resigned
00:33:43.520 that day
00:33:44.040 in any sane
00:33:45.080 world
00:33:45.480 the president
00:33:46.100 would have
00:33:46.520 fired the
00:33:47.060 director
00:33:47.360 of the secret
00:33:47.720 service
00:33:48.040 but there's
00:33:48.680 no accountability
00:33:49.340 now you
00:33:49.860 now have the
00:33:50.760 acting director
00:33:51.580 and one question
00:33:52.240 you asked me
00:33:52.880 at the beginning
00:33:53.940 of this pod
00:33:54.500 should the acting
00:33:56.200 director be fired
00:33:57.400 and I'm going to
00:33:58.340 say I don't know
00:33:59.200 I think the proof
00:34:01.300 is in the pudding
00:34:01.960 so on one level
00:34:05.080 the acting director
00:34:06.720 whom I don't know
00:34:07.420 personally
00:34:07.880 but he's been
00:34:09.760 a long time
00:34:10.560 career secret
00:34:11.380 service agent
00:34:12.500 and officer
00:34:13.200 his answers
00:34:15.540 demonstrated
00:34:16.380 massively more
00:34:17.920 candor
00:34:18.460 than the old
00:34:21.260 director
00:34:21.660 the old
00:34:22.060 director was
00:34:22.620 handpicked
00:34:23.160 by Joe Biden
00:34:23.880 and Jill Biden
00:34:24.580 I believe the
00:34:25.760 old director
00:34:26.300 was there
00:34:26.960 she used to be
00:34:28.760 on Joe Biden
00:34:29.600 secret service
00:34:30.260 detail when he
00:34:30.880 was vice president
00:34:31.580 I think they
00:34:32.160 handpicked her
00:34:32.940 because they
00:34:33.880 wanted the
00:34:34.540 secret service
00:34:35.240 to cover up
00:34:36.220 Joe Biden's
00:34:37.340 massive
00:34:38.200 mental decline
00:34:39.960 and so they
00:34:40.660 put her in
00:34:41.260 that place
00:34:41.920 as a political
00:34:43.320 decision to
00:34:44.100 protect his
00:34:44.700 political
00:34:45.080 vulnerabilities
00:34:45.620 that's what I
00:34:46.300 believe
00:34:46.540 but she was
00:34:48.880 and we talked
00:34:49.420 about this in a
00:34:50.020 prior podcast
00:34:50.680 when she did
00:34:51.660 on all senators
00:34:52.800 briefing she
00:34:53.480 stonewalled
00:34:54.280 she would not
00:34:55.060 answer any
00:34:55.540 questions
00:34:55.960 she said they
00:34:56.480 did everything
00:34:56.960 perfectly
00:34:57.580 except for the
00:34:58.720 fact that the
00:34:59.160 president was
00:34:59.600 shot
00:34:59.840 and by the
00:35:00.800 way to be
00:35:01.140 clear
00:35:01.460 had the
00:35:03.760 bullet been
00:35:04.380 a half inch
00:35:05.280 to the left
00:35:06.180 Donald Trump
00:35:08.860 would be dead
00:35:09.380 today
00:35:09.700 she described
00:35:11.460 this as a
00:35:12.040 success for the
00:35:12.920 secret service
00:35:13.520 it's not a
00:35:14.560 success
00:35:15.060 it is
00:35:16.840 I think God's
00:35:18.240 providence
00:35:18.680 I believe God
00:35:19.460 turned
00:35:20.260 Trump's head
00:35:21.720 but we came
00:35:23.800 within a half
00:35:24.600 inch of the
00:35:25.240 history of the
00:35:26.100 world being
00:35:27.140 changed that
00:35:28.220 day
00:35:28.540 so compared
00:35:30.680 to the former
00:35:31.400 director
00:35:31.900 the acting
00:35:33.480 director
00:35:33.960 is at least
00:35:35.640 admitting they
00:35:36.180 screwed it up
00:35:36.720 they did
00:35:37.020 something wrong
00:35:37.660 he has some
00:35:38.720 modicum of
00:35:39.340 candor
00:35:39.640 here's my
00:35:40.160 answer in
00:35:40.660 terms of
00:35:40.980 whether he
00:35:41.300 should be
00:35:41.620 fired
00:35:41.940 how does
00:35:43.820 he answer
00:35:44.320 the questions
00:35:46.020 for the
00:35:46.340 record that I
00:35:47.020 and other
00:35:47.300 senators ask
00:35:48.020 him
00:35:48.180 I believe
00:35:49.260 the secret
00:35:49.700 service needs
00:35:50.420 radical
00:35:50.880 transparency
00:35:51.620 among the
00:35:53.300 questions I'm
00:35:53.940 asking also is
00:35:54.800 how many
00:35:55.140 threats are
00:35:55.680 directed right
00:35:56.380 now in the
00:35:57.140 last year
00:35:57.700 against Donald
00:35:58.800 Trump how
00:35:59.220 many threats
00:35:59.700 directed against
00:36:00.380 Joe Biden
00:36:00.880 how many
00:36:01.520 threats are
00:36:02.300 directed against
00:36:02.900 the first lady
00:36:03.440 now to be
00:36:03.780 clear all
00:36:04.640 three need to
00:36:05.260 be protected
00:36:05.840 I'm not
00:36:06.340 saying that
00:36:07.720 that Joe or
00:36:08.480 Jill Biden
00:36:08.980 should not be
00:36:09.540 protected but
00:36:10.140 one of the
00:36:10.620 public press
00:36:11.180 reports is on
00:36:12.560 the day of
00:36:13.140 the Butler
00:36:13.500 rally they
00:36:14.100 pulled members
00:36:15.460 of Trump's
00:36:16.020 security detail
00:36:16.760 and put them
00:36:17.360 on the first
00:36:17.840 lady's detail
00:36:18.660 now I don't
00:36:20.400 know this but
00:36:21.620 secret service
00:36:22.240 does but I'm
00:36:23.620 going to venture
00:36:24.160 a guess that
00:36:24.900 the number of
00:36:25.680 threats
00:36:26.260 against Trump
00:36:28.540 versus against
00:36:30.220 the first lady
00:36:31.040 it is at
00:36:33.380 least a
00:36:34.340 hundred X
00:36:35.080 and it
00:36:35.340 wouldn't
00:36:35.620 surprise me
00:36:36.240 if it is
00:36:36.660 a thousand
00:36:37.400 X that
00:36:38.780 I think
00:36:39.740 Donald Trump
00:36:40.380 is the most
00:36:40.900 threatened person
00:36:41.780 on the face
00:36:42.320 of the planet
00:36:42.840 and if it
00:36:44.820 is the case
00:36:45.700 it is all
00:36:46.400 the more
00:36:46.840 indefensible
00:36:47.620 that the
00:36:48.600 secret service
00:36:49.300 political leadership
00:36:50.220 would not
00:36:51.020 provide sufficient
00:36:52.500 agents to
00:36:53.180 keep him safe
00:36:53.780 and I'm
00:36:54.860 asking them
00:36:55.600 how many
00:36:56.280 threats against
00:36:56.860 Trump
00:36:57.220 how many
00:36:57.840 threats against
00:36:58.420 Joe Biden
00:36:58.960 how many
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00:38:39.700 I want to move
00:38:40.540 to some of this
00:38:41.220 breaking news
00:38:42.180 and it is a
00:38:43.580 important moment
00:38:44.700 that's happening
00:38:45.420 in the Middle East
00:38:46.040 right now
00:38:46.600 Israel is doing
00:38:48.640 everything they can
00:38:49.420 to protect their
00:38:50.260 people and
00:38:50.980 they're also
00:38:51.660 having success
00:38:53.340 at taking out
00:38:54.340 terrorists and
00:38:55.700 terrorist leaders
00:38:56.580 that have been
00:38:57.480 orchestrating many
00:38:59.020 of these attacks
00:39:00.260 on Israel
00:39:01.320 including taking
00:39:02.120 out someone
00:39:02.640 in Iran
00:39:04.100 in Tehran
00:39:04.940 well that's
00:39:06.320 exactly right
00:39:07.000 and they're two
00:39:07.520 huge stories
00:39:08.620 in terms of
00:39:09.860 the war in
00:39:10.640 Israel
00:39:11.080 the war
00:39:11.760 against Hamas
00:39:13.020 and against
00:39:13.440 Hezbollah
00:39:13.880 one story that
00:39:15.200 broke
00:39:15.600 late
00:39:17.040 this afternoon
00:39:19.620 and evening
00:39:20.100 is a story
00:39:21.800 that says
00:39:22.340 IDF kills
00:39:23.320 Hezbollah
00:39:23.700 commander
00:39:24.220 behind brutal
00:39:25.880 attack on
00:39:26.600 children's soccer
00:39:27.400 field
00:39:27.800 and this is
00:39:29.640 a Fox News
00:39:30.240 story that's
00:39:30.820 being reported
00:39:31.320 everywhere
00:39:31.820 Fuad Shukur
00:39:34.380 whose death
00:39:35.400 is unconfirmed
00:39:36.140 by Hezbollah
00:39:36.760 was wanted
00:39:38.100 by U.S.
00:39:38.760 government
00:39:39.020 in connection
00:39:39.540 to the
00:39:39.840 1983
00:39:41.240 marine barracks
00:39:43.080 bombing
00:39:43.480 in Beirut
00:39:44.780 and IDF
00:39:46.060 forces on
00:39:46.660 Tuesday
00:39:46.960 announced
00:39:47.400 the death
00:39:47.920 of Fuad Shukur
00:39:49.380 the Hezbollah
00:39:49.980 commander
00:39:50.500 who was behind
00:39:51.760 the drone strike
00:39:52.560 that killed
00:39:53.020 12 children
00:39:53.740 and teens
00:39:54.240 over the weekend
00:39:54.840 so over the
00:39:55.760 weekend
00:39:56.040 we saw Hezbollah
00:39:57.100 fire a rocket
00:39:58.000 in northern Israel
00:39:59.680 it hit a soccer
00:40:00.360 field and 12
00:40:01.400 Israeli children
00:40:02.180 were murdered
00:40:02.740 continuing back
00:40:04.720 from the Fox
00:40:05.360 News story
00:40:05.920 Shukur
00:40:06.360 who was also
00:40:07.860 known as
00:40:08.580 Haj
00:40:09.140 Mosin
00:40:10.680 joined Hezbollah
00:40:12.360 in 1985
00:40:13.080 he was also
00:40:15.020 sought by the
00:40:15.920 U.S.
00:40:16.320 government
00:40:16.620 over his
00:40:17.680 connection
00:40:18.080 to the
00:40:18.480 1983
00:40:19.080 suicide
00:40:19.840 bombing
00:40:20.360 of the
00:40:21.080 Marine Corps
00:40:21.580 barracks
00:40:22.120 in Beirut
00:40:22.800 that killed
00:40:23.260 241
00:40:24.560 U.S.
00:40:25.380 service
00:40:25.620 members
00:40:26.120 Shukur
00:40:27.480 served as
00:40:28.040 a senior
00:40:28.400 advisor
00:40:28.840 to Hezbollah
00:40:29.340 leader
00:40:29.900 Hassan
00:40:30.920 Nasrallah
00:40:31.500 at the
00:40:31.960 time of
00:40:32.360 his death
00:40:32.820 in an
00:40:33.640 IDF
00:40:34.060 strike
00:40:34.500 on Tuesday
00:40:35.660 in southern
00:40:36.240 Beirut
00:40:36.780 the IDF
00:40:38.480 confirmed
00:40:39.000 the news
00:40:39.480 in a press
00:40:39.920 release
00:40:40.220 announcing
00:40:40.660 that its
00:40:41.040 fighter jets
00:40:41.740 eliminated
00:40:42.920 Hezbollah
00:40:43.660 terrorist
00:40:44.160 organization's
00:40:45.180 most senior
00:40:46.660 military
00:40:47.240 commander
00:40:47.780 Shukur
00:40:48.860 in Lebanon's
00:40:50.580 capital city
00:40:51.360 now understand
00:40:52.860 this is a
00:40:54.680 murderer
00:40:55.140 responsible
00:40:56.660 for murdering
00:40:57.740 241
00:40:59.200 U.S.
00:40:59.740 service members
00:41:00.380 this is a
00:41:01.320 reason to
00:41:01.740 celebrate
00:41:02.200 listen the
00:41:03.120 enemies of
00:41:04.260 Israel are
00:41:05.060 the enemies
00:41:05.460 of America
00:41:06.020 the enemies
00:41:08.180 of Jews
00:41:08.800 those who
00:41:09.260 want to
00:41:09.520 kill Jews
00:41:10.160 want to
00:41:11.560 kill
00:41:11.800 Christians
00:41:12.520 Hamas
00:41:13.940 and Hezbollah
00:41:14.680 they hate
00:41:15.100 Israel
00:41:15.520 but they
00:41:16.500 hate America
00:41:17.220 too and
00:41:17.780 this is an
00:41:18.340 example where
00:41:19.300 Israel fighting
00:41:20.780 the war
00:41:21.220 fighting the
00:41:21.760 war against
00:41:22.280 Hamas and
00:41:23.020 Hezbollah at
00:41:23.540 the same
00:41:23.880 time is
00:41:25.300 defeating
00:41:25.820 someone who
00:41:26.580 has murdered
00:41:27.140 hundreds of
00:41:29.460 Americans that
00:41:30.300 is an enormous
00:41:31.100 victory for this
00:41:31.900 country and
00:41:32.360 then let me
00:41:32.880 say secondly
00:41:34.040 so you and I
00:41:35.200 are recording
00:41:35.720 this podcast
00:41:36.360 it is 11
00:41:37.260 40 p.m.
00:41:39.060 at 11
00:41:39.520 40 p.m.
00:41:40.240 this news has
00:41:41.000 just broken
00:41:41.640 so listen
00:41:42.140 anytime you're
00:41:43.380 dealing with
00:41:44.180 with matters
00:41:45.040 of life and
00:41:45.760 death and
00:41:46.200 war and
00:41:46.640 peace the
00:41:47.860 news can
00:41:48.480 move so
00:41:49.160 what we're
00:41:49.920 recording right
00:41:50.600 now it may
00:41:51.200 be different
00:41:51.900 by 6 a.m.
00:41:53.760 tomorrow but
00:41:54.420 at 11
00:41:54.800 40 p.m.
00:41:55.560 let me read
00:41:56.060 the AP
00:41:56.460 story Iran
00:41:58.440 says Hamas
00:42:00.300 leader Ismail
00:42:01.500 Hanaya was
00:42:03.780 assassinated in
00:42:04.760 Tehran and
00:42:05.360 let me just
00:42:05.760 read the AP
00:42:06.320 story Hamas
00:42:07.920 leader Ismail
00:42:08.720 Hanaya was
00:42:10.500 assassinated in
00:42:11.380 Tehran and
00:42:11.940 Iran's
00:42:12.640 paramilitary
00:42:13.480 revolutionary
00:42:14.440 guards said
00:42:15.180 early Wednesday
00:42:15.940 no one
00:42:17.160 immediately claimed
00:42:17.920 responsibility for
00:42:18.820 the assassination
00:42:19.380 but suspicion
00:42:20.560 immediately fell
00:42:22.300 on Israel
00:42:22.960 no duh
00:42:23.700 which has
00:42:24.980 vowed to
00:42:25.680 kill Hanaya
00:42:26.460 and other
00:42:27.700 leaders of
00:42:28.220 Hamas over
00:42:28.800 the group's
00:42:29.360 October 7th
00:42:30.140 attack on
00:42:30.600 Israel that
00:42:31.600 killed 1,200
00:42:32.760 people and
00:42:33.460 saw some 250
00:42:34.480 others taken
00:42:35.080 hostage
00:42:35.600 Hanaya was
00:42:38.220 in Tehran to
00:42:39.580 attend Iran
00:42:40.460 President
00:42:41.460 Masood
00:42:42.340 Pezeshkian's
00:42:44.980 swearing in
00:42:45.780 on Tuesday
00:42:46.400 Iran gave
00:42:47.920 no details on
00:42:48.820 how Hanaya was
00:42:49.700 killed and the
00:42:50.780 guards said the
00:42:51.520 attack was under
00:42:52.280 investigation
00:42:53.000 analysts on
00:42:54.300 Iranian state
00:42:55.000 television immediately
00:42:56.040 began blaming
00:42:56.860 Israel for the
00:42:57.700 attack
00:42:58.100 Israel did not
00:42:59.600 immediately comment
00:43:00.360 but it often
00:43:01.240 doesn't when it
00:43:01.940 comes to
00:43:02.300 assassinations
00:43:03.160 carried out by
00:43:04.480 their Mossad
00:43:05.540 intelligence agency
00:43:06.740 to come up
00:43:08.040 within 24 hours
00:43:09.420 with number
00:43:09.900 one killing the
00:43:11.820 top military
00:43:12.660 commander of
00:43:13.400 Hezbollah
00:43:13.860 responsible for
00:43:15.500 murdering 12
00:43:16.360 Israeli children
00:43:17.200 in northern Israel
00:43:18.040 with a rocket
00:43:18.580 attack and
00:43:19.480 also responsible
00:43:20.420 for 241
00:43:22.000 American servicemen
00:43:23.480 and women being
00:43:24.980 killed in
00:43:26.040 Beirut in
00:43:27.540 1983 that's a
00:43:28.740 big damn
00:43:29.220 deal and
00:43:29.840 then this
00:43:31.340 taking out
00:43:32.780 the top
00:43:33.440 leadership of
00:43:34.180 Hamas
00:43:34.620 it's a big
00:43:36.060 big victory
00:43:37.240 for Israel
00:43:37.940 and a big
00:43:38.540 big victory
00:43:39.040 for America
00:43:39.620 yeah we're
00:43:40.580 going to keep
00:43:40.900 monitoring this
00:43:41.540 like you said
00:43:42.020 we're getting
00:43:42.460 this breaking
00:43:42.980 news as we're
00:43:43.860 recording this
00:43:44.520 live
00:43:44.920 don't forget
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00:43:55.840 I will keep
00:43:57.400 you updated
00:43:57.720 obviously on
00:43:58.320 this break
00:43:58.720 news story as
00:43:59.640 well and the
00:44:00.160 center I will
00:44:00.600 see you back
00:44:01.320 here in a
00:44:01.940 couple of
00:44:02.240 days
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