00:02:19.400And yet DOJ's initial position was, we're going to charge you with nothing.
00:02:23.180Instead, what they were going to bring was a deferred prosecution agreement where Hunter Biden would plead guilty to nothing.
00:02:31.960He would not have to plead guilty to any criminal offense whatsoever.
00:02:38.020But DOJ would file a document with the court that granted him essentially immunity.
00:02:44.740Granted him a promise that the federal government would not prosecute him for the tax claims, for the gun crimes, for his illegal dealings and his shady dealings with Ukraine, with China.
00:02:58.180That would essentially give him a get out of jail free card on all of his criminal conduct.
00:03:06.680And what happened, so we also have now a 100-page PowerPoint that Hunter Biden's lawyer, a guy named Chris Clark, had taken to the Department of Justice where they argued that if DOJ prosecuted Hunter, it would be seen as political.
00:03:27.420Because Donald Trump called for Hunter to be prosecuted, Hunter's lawyer said, you can't prosecute him.
00:03:34.980If you do what Trump wants, then you're just being political.
00:03:40.700And in fact, they ratcheted it up even more.
00:03:43.520Hunter Biden's lawyer said, if you indict Hunter Biden, we will put Joe Biden, the president of the United States, on the stand to testify.
00:03:56.240As a fact witness, in fact, let me read from a 32-page letter that Clark wrote to the Department of Justice, quote,
00:04:04.980President Biden now unquestionably would be a fact witness for the defense in any criminal trial.
00:04:18.360DOJ was fine with not even a slap on the wrist, just a magic wand.
00:04:24.140All the criminal charges go away because daddy says so.
00:04:28.540And then what happened is two IRS whistleblowers came forward and they blew the whistle.
00:04:35.020And how brave are they now at this point?
00:04:37.040I mean, Senator, I think we need to just take a moment to say thank you and to say, God bless these patriots for coming forward and just telling the truth.
00:04:46.180They're not pushing a political agenda.
00:04:47.840They're just telling the truth about what they saw and how corrupt it was and how they were not allowed to do their jobs.
00:04:57.140And the instant they came forward and blew the whistle, what did what did the Biden administration do?
00:05:02.300Pulled them off the investigation, retaliated instantaneously.
00:05:06.480It is illegal to retaliate against a whistleblower.
00:05:09.620But Merrick Garland, this administration, doesn't doesn't seem to care about the law.
00:05:16.040And if those IRS whistleblowers had not come forward, what these internal communications show is the Biden DOJ was perfectly prepared to let Hunter Biden off scot-free.
00:05:30.380And then suddenly you had the IRS whistleblowers testifying before Congress and presumably DOJ said, oh, crap, we can't like this is too ridiculous even for us to say.
00:05:44.340And so then they revised the deal and they said, OK, we have a revised deal.
00:05:51.660Hunter has to plead guilty to two misdemeanor tax charges.
00:05:55.220Now, he still gets zero jail time, not a not a not a year, not a month, not a week, not a day, not an hour in jail, zero jail time.
00:06:04.260And he still gets the magic immunity from everything.
00:06:08.640But we at least have a guilty plea to guilty pleas to the misdemeanor tax charges.
00:06:13.320And I guess they felt that would give him the political cover to say, look how tough we are.
00:06:18.340If it weren't for the whistleblowers, even that sweetheart deal, it wouldn't have been that tough.
00:06:29.160But then what happened, as you'll recall, when they went into court and they assumed that the federal judge would just just rubber stamp the deal.
00:06:38.120The judge asked a few simple questions about its details, and in particular, is the investigation ongoing and the Department of Justice, no doubt embarrassed by the mountain of evidence that had come up that DOJ had engaged in obstruction of justice, had blocked the investigation.
00:06:56.500It tipped off Hunter Biden's lawyers before they were going to interview Hunter Biden, had blocked searching the warehouse where Hunter's records were kept, had blocked any investigation into Joe Biden, had blocked any questions into the big guy, had blocked any effort to get the GPS location of Joe Biden in terms of whether he was actually sitting next to Hunter Biden.
00:07:20.460And when Hunter Biden texted a senior Chinese communist official, the investigators wanted to use GPS data to confirm that, and DOJ blocked it, said, nope, nope, we don't want to know, we don't want to know, we don't want to know.
00:07:37.720And so DOJ presumably was feeling a tiny, tiny bit embarrassed.
00:07:41.820And so what did they do when the judge asked, is the investigation ongoing?
00:07:47.240Well, if they'd said no, they would have looked like complete clowns, given the massive evidence that came out.
00:07:53.340So they said, oh, yes, yes, the investigation's ongoing, at which point Hunter Biden's lawyers began jumping up and down because they believed that they had a magic get-out-of-jail-free card.
00:08:04.400A magic get-out-of-jail-free card that no one else in this country, I think, would be able to get, especially now knowing what they were doing.
00:08:14.820This is the other part that I think Americans are so concerned about is the lawlessness now.
00:08:21.380Every time you think it's the worst it could be with the Biden crime family, we get more emails, we get more evidence, we get new leaks, we get new whistleblowers.
00:08:33.700And yet still, you know, David Weiss is in charge, the guy who set up all the deals, who let the statute of limitations run out.
00:08:42.080And so they say, okay, yes, it's new, but is this really going to have an impact?
00:08:47.060Now, I'm going to ask you, does this really change anything?
00:08:51.460Can it change the dynamic that this is now the guy who's supposed to be investigating?
00:08:56.840And you can clearly point to, you guys were screwing over American justices in the entire time.
00:09:03.400Look, the idea that David Weiss is now the special prosecutor is utterly absurd.
00:09:09.860David Weiss, when he was leading this investigation, was prepared to sign off on zero charges whatsoever.
00:09:15.760For criminal conduct that Hunter Biden unquestionably had committed, David Weiss was perfectly prepared to give not just the sweetheart deal, but the super, super sweetheart deal.
00:09:27.660The sweetheart deal where Hunter Biden pleads guilty to nothing.
00:09:33.280And it was under Weiss's leadership that the obstruction of justice occurred, that they gave repeatedly heads up to Hunter Biden to enable him to frustrate the investigation.
00:09:44.660It was under David Weiss that DOJ officials inserted themselves into the investigation to make sure that zero questions were asked about Joe Biden.
00:10:00.380That's the most important thing to understand.
00:10:02.880The objective of the Department of Justice from day one was protect President Joe Biden.
00:10:12.580And by the way, that political objective is precisely the reason the special counsel law exists, because when you have a political attorney general like Merrick Garland, they have political incentives.
00:10:26.100And so you're supposed to appoint a special counsel when there's a conflict of interest like that from outside the Department of Justice.
00:10:33.160As we discussed in last week's pod, appointing David David Weiss is on its face, objectively illegal because he is a sitting U.S. attorney.
00:10:42.180So he doesn't meet the DOJ guidelines of being from outside DOJ.
00:10:49.160He knows he has a guy that will protect Joe Biden no matter what.
00:10:54.640And sadly, and by the way, if you look at the draft wording of the agreement, let me read you some of it.
00:11:05.640The Department of Justice agrees not to criminally prosecute Robert Hunter Biden and the affiliated businesses, namely Owosco PC, Owosco LLC, and Scanitalese LLC,
00:11:23.340for any federal crimes arising from the conduct generally described in the attached statement of facts or for any other federal crimes relating to matters investigated by the United States.
00:11:41.860So understand, this immunity that they were negotiating was designed, and what these emails going back and forth reveal is that Hunter's lawyers were terrified that in a couple of years there would be a Republican president
00:11:59.260and you would have an attorney general who was not a Democrat partisan and a hack, and that Hunter would actually be prosecuted for what now was indisputably a repeat pattern of felonies.
00:12:13.260And so their objective was give us an agreement that we can use in two years to prevent a subsequent attorney general from prosecuting us.
00:12:23.440And Merrick Garland and David Weiss were more than happy to go along with that.
00:12:27.740I want to tell you about our friends over at Chalk.
00:12:30.400If you're a guy and you feel like you're getting a little bit older and you've lost some of that edge, you feel like complacency and just tired and maybe even feel like you're lazy is kind of set in, and it doesn't feel like it's you, well, then you need to check out Chalk.
00:14:09.780And now some people are saying it's still a sham because as it's been described by several, they've said, look, everything on the surface screams that this is corruption.
00:14:21.820Yet everybody that's still in charge of the case is part of the crime cover up and protecting the Biden.
00:14:47.200So May 24th, Gary Shapley, who was the IRS investigator supervising the Biden probe, he went public in an interview with CBS News and said that the Justice Department had slow walked the investigation.
00:15:01.520And just days later, the DOJ lawyers changed the deal and they said the deal would have to change and Biden would now need to plead guilty to tax charges.
00:15:22.160But let me read from the Politico article because the timeline is really stunning.
00:15:25.940So it was May 24th that Shapley goes public on CBS.
00:15:30.220On the evening of June 2nd, so just a few days later, Clark, who's Hunter's lawyer, emailed Wolf.
00:15:36.680Leslie Wolf was the senior lawyer working for David Weiss, who was also a Democrat donor, who was also the one that was actively tipping off Hunter Biden's team, allegedly, according to the IRS whistleblowers, as to the investigation that was happening, who was also the one who directly blocked investigating Joe Biden.
00:15:57.060It was Leslie Wolf was was really the the point of the spear on the obstruction that is alleged by the IRS whistleblowers.
00:16:05.400But here's what Politico says on the evening of June 2nd.
00:16:08.180Clark emailed Wolf to tell her protection from prosecution was vital to the deal.
00:16:13.320He sent along sample language saying the United States would not prosecute Biden for, quote, any federal crimes arising from the conduct generally described in two documents that would be part of the final deal.
00:16:23.600Quote, this language or its functional equivalent is very critical to us.
00:16:27.460As Clark added, Politico continues left unstated was a key implication of a broad immunity provision.
00:16:35.800It would give Hunter Biden a level of protection, a layer of protection if Trump or another Republican won the 2024 election and ordered a wide ranging criminal investigation into the Biden family, something Trump has repeatedly promised to do.
00:16:49.120So over the course of a few more emails, lawyers on both sides kept line editing the deal.
00:16:54.120And on June 7th, Wolf, this is the DOJ lawyer who who blocks investigations into Joe Biden, Wolf sent Clark a version that included the final language shielding Biden from future charges.
00:17:06.780Um, that, that, that language, that agreement is fundamentally corrupt.
00:17:21.720It, it, there is no innocuous explanation for why before the whistleblowers come public, they're happy to bring no charges at all and have no guilty pleas.
00:17:35.440After the whistleblowers become public, they realize, oh crap, that makes us look like complete partisan hacks.
00:17:43.300So let's come up with a way to, to even have the slap on the wrist.
00:17:46.540They initially wanted no slap on the wrist at all.
00:17:48.800They just wanted a kiss on the forehead.
00:17:51.660And now the people Merrick Garland has put in charge of this are the people who were the ones blocking the investigation in the first place.
00:17:59.960You combine this center with some new Intel that's coming out.
00:18:04.200Apparently this week, it was teased, uh, by, uh, your good friend, uh, someone we had on the show for a two part series.
00:18:10.940If you missed it, go back and listen to it with representative James Comer.
00:18:14.720But he came out and talked about the vice president, Joe Biden, in essence, had not just a burner phone that we learned about recently and a journalist that called that phone and the president actually picked up.
00:18:24.780But, but, but there's also these apparently burner email addresses and a burner account for people that may not understand that analogy is a phone that you don't want anybody else to know that you have.
00:18:37.260That would be somewhat untraceable burner email accounts or email accounts that you set up specifically.
00:18:44.480So they will not be connected to you to send or receive messages to those aliases, to those email accounts that are not officially connected.
00:18:53.200So no one even know to look there if they ever found them.
00:18:57.540Well, we know about them now from Hunter Biden's laptop and we know some of these aliases, uh, where the president, the vice president went by was Robin Ware, Robert L. Peters and J.R.B. Ware.
00:19:10.000Now, the, the point that matters is these email addresses weren't just set up, but they were used to keep his son, Hunter Biden, informed on his communications as the official vice president and the point man on Ukraine to keep his son informed on the communications that he, as the vice president, which would be official government relations representing the United States of America with Ukraine.
00:19:35.480Your initial reaction to that bombshell as well.
00:19:59.280Have you ever heard anything remotely like that?
00:20:02.180And, and to be clear, these fake emails are, are not to sign up for magazine subscriptions.
00:20:09.200These fake emails were used to email Hunter Biden about Ukraine.
00:20:15.980And by the way, it was the same Ukraine where Burisma was paying Hunter $83,000 a month in order to get favors from Joe Biden.
00:20:25.340And so look, when someone attempts to hide their conduct, when someone creates a fake name, when someone uses a burner phone, particularly in a high government office, that is indicative of an awareness that what you're doing is at a minimum shady as hell.
00:20:45.620And in all likelihood, illegal and criminal, it is, I am not aware of any precedent for any president doing what we now know Joe Biden has done in order to communicate with Hunter Biden about Ukraine.
00:21:03.800It also demonstrates that Joe Biden's repeated statements that he never talked about Hunter's business in Ukraine is just a flat out lie.
00:21:12.520I mean, there's now not even the tiniest fig leaf to pretend to defend those false statements Joe Biden made over and over and over again to the American people.
00:21:23.080Canadian women are looking for more, more out of themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world around them.
00:21:29.500And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast.
00:21:32.820I want to play part of what James Comer had to say when he was talking to Maria Bartromo on Fox this morning and also telegraphing that there is more money.
00:22:02.800And more bank account information that they're going to be releasing soon.
00:22:07.280But first, listen to that part about the emails.
00:22:09.500I want to get the state of affairs of your investigation, given we have a new special counsel now in the Hunter Biden investigation.
00:22:16.000But first, let's discuss these pseudonyms or alias names.
00:22:21.960Well, we've learned that Joe Biden used at least three pseudonyms or fake names in emails that he was receiving from people within the federal government, people that worked for him.
00:22:34.620And even more troubling than that, Maria, we've learned that when he was receiving emails pertaining to Ukraine, his son Hunter was copied on him, which we've always heard that the White House has said that Hunter Biden wasn't an employee of the government.
00:22:51.580They couldn't understand why House Republicans on the Oversight Committee were investigating Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden because Hunter wasn't a part of the government.
00:22:59.400Well, if that were true, then why was he receiving emails from the government?
00:23:05.300Well, this this also pertains to the firing of the special prosecutor in Ukraine, Victor Shokin.
00:23:13.580Was that what these emails were about?
00:23:15.820Because you have told us in the past that that was one decision you were looking at as far as a decision that Joe Biden may have been paid for to get involved in getting that prosecutor off the back of Burisma.
00:23:29.400I think the evidence is mounting every day to prove that Joe Biden went to Ukraine for the sole purpose of firing Shokin, who was the Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating his son for corruption.
00:23:41.120What we heard in the transcribed interview with Devin Archer was that he said that the owners of Burisma were squeezing Hunter, saying we need help in Washington.
00:23:53.480Of course, the Democrats tried to say that, well, that could have been anybody in Washington.
00:23:57.020Well, what we've now learned is Joe Biden was using a fake email name to receive correspondence from his staff that he was copying Hunter Biden on.
00:24:06.260And I believe, Maria, that Hunter had to prove value to the Burisma owners that they were working on this.
00:24:13.400So he was forwarding those to the owners of Burisma.
00:24:16.900Well, look, this is obvious that Joe Biden abused his power as vice president for the sole purpose to protect his son, who was receiving millions and millions of dollars from this corrupt Ukrainian energy company.
00:24:29.800And this email ties Joe Biden and Hunter Biden into this corruption scheme without a shadow of a doubt.
00:24:36.220Well, it also is quite interesting that Hunter Biden is even cc'd on any of these emails.
00:24:44.920This was 100 percent government business.
00:24:47.220Again, the Democrats in the White House have claimed that Hunter Biden and Joe Biden had a wall, a firewall between their business affairs.
00:24:55.120And again, Maria, as you know, there are no legitimate businesses here.
00:24:58.340The Biden family were receiving payments from bad people in bad countries around the world.
00:25:03.940And what we've been trying to do is figure out why.
00:25:07.080Why in the world would the Biden family receive over 20 million dollars from foreign nationals around the world?
00:25:12.720And this is evidence to show that Joe Biden was communicating with his son.
00:25:17.840He was making sure that his son, you he was on his way to Ukraine.
00:25:21.540Remember, the timeline of these emails show that Joe Biden was in route from Washington to Ukraine for the sole purpose of withholding foreign aid to Ukraine in exchange for firing the prosecutor.
00:25:36.280And we know that happened and we know Joe Biden accepted credit for it.
00:25:40.620He did an interview where he said, well, son of a B, they fired the prosecutor before I got on the plane and left Ukraine.
00:25:46.200Joe Biden, in his own words, said that. So now we have evidence that Joe Biden and his administration was communicating with Hunter Biden.
00:25:55.200They knew Hunter Biden was affiliated with Ukraine. That's another lie, Maria.
00:25:58.680Joe Biden said he didn't even know Hunter was on the Burisma board for a long time.
00:26:02.920This is another lie. They were copying Hunter.
00:26:05.880And the only emails we've seen where they were copying Hunter were pertaining to Ukraine at a critical time when Joe Biden was going there to fire the prosecutor.
00:26:15.580In exchange for foreign aid. That's called a quid pro quo.
00:26:18.900That's called a quid pro quo. That's something we've said a lot.
00:26:21.840But this is is in a on a different level.
00:26:25.140Is it not illegal if you're sharing information that is going to profit your family member or even a friend?
00:26:33.120If you are in charge of a foreign policy and sitting in the in the in the Oval Office on a daily basis as the vice president,
00:26:40.000and you're seeing your son from a burner email account, hey, here's where we are.
00:26:44.120Let your buddies know at Burisma. Hey, here's where we are with the firing of the prosecutor.
00:26:48.040Let your employer know at Burisma. And don't forget, get them to send me the money.
00:26:53.620It is absolutely illegal to personally profit, to sell favors when you are in office.
00:27:01.580And the evidence is is mounting every day that that's what Joe Biden was in the business of doing.
00:27:08.040There is no legitimate explanation for why government employees would be ceasing Hunter Biden and emailing Hunter Biden about Ukraine and doing so over and over and over again.
00:27:20.940Hunter Biden did not have a legitimate government reason to be looped in on the Ukrainian discussions.
00:28:31.100And Matt Graves, the U.S. attorney, said, no, we will not bring a case in D.C., which is where you could have gotten stricter punishment because the more serious criminal tax offenses occurred in D.C.
00:28:46.420The very same day that Hunter's team of lawyers was meeting with the prosecutors, and this was April 26, 2022, Merrick Garland was testifying before a Senate Appropriations Subcommittee that, quote, there will not be interference of any political or improper kind.
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00:31:15.620Senator, I also want to ask you about the financial aspects of what we're now learning.
00:31:19.100James Comer, he telegraphed to us when we interviewed him that they were expecting it to be, I think he said at that point, at least $30 million that they are going to be able to trace directly going into the shell companies of the Biden family.
00:31:32.880That number in the last week has jumped to, it looks like, $50 million to $60 million.
00:31:39.140And he even said coming up this week, and it may happen, he said this week, we're going to release more bank records with more money that came in to the Biden family.
00:31:52.840We don't know if it's the same countries, more from Russia or Ukraine or Romania.
00:31:56.320We don't know that, but there's more money coming in.
00:32:00.080Is there a certain point here where the financial gains of the Bidens could be so great that the media and Washington cannot look the other way any longer?
00:32:11.840Well, it does say something that both the New York Times and Politico were willing to report on this, that they're finally acknowledging that this evidence stinks.
00:32:22.020And look, just like there's no legitimate reason for Joe Biden to have a burner phone, there's no legitimate reason for him to have fake emails.
00:32:29.220There's no legitimate reason for government employees to be emailing Hunter Biden about Ukraine, about confidential discussions about Ukraine.
00:32:36.160There's no legitimate reason for Joe Biden to use his fake emails on those emails to Hunter about Ukraine.
00:32:43.780There's also no legitimate reason for them to have over 20 shell companies, companies that don't make anything, companies that don't have employees, companies that are not real companies.
00:32:52.580They're simply vehicles for money laundering.
00:32:57.400And it's worth noting that the defense that that the Bidens are making.
00:33:04.780So one of the things the IRS whistleblower said is that Chris Clark, Hunter Biden's defense lawyer, told the DOJ lawyers, quote, that if they charge Hunter Biden, they would be committing, quote, career suicide.
00:33:25.520That's not subtle. That is very explicit.
00:33:31.280We have political power and that political power is going to protect Joe Biden.
00:33:37.580It doesn't matter if he's taken bribes. It doesn't matter if he's solicited bribes.
00:33:42.820It doesn't matter if he and his son are engaged in illegal money laundering.
00:33:47.140It doesn't matter if they are selling favors from the vice president of the United States and perhaps now the president of the United States.
00:36:05.540There has not been a single Democrat member of Congress.
00:36:09.220Congress express even the tiniest bit of interest in knowing whether or not the President of the United States has solicited and received millions of dollars of bribes from foreign nationals in exchange for official government favors.
00:36:26.320In other words, is the President such a crook that he's getting bribes and bribes from corrupt foreign oligarchs?
00:36:35.320I mean, those are incredibly serious allegations.
00:36:40.180And to be clear, these allegations are made with significant evidence.
00:36:43.880A confidential human source who called the FBI and who is the source for the FD-1023.
00:36:51.120Unlike Watergate, no one of the President's own party cares to even know the answer.
00:36:57.160Also, in Watergate, you had journalists who actually would do their jobs.
00:37:01.200Woodward and Bernstein at the Washington Post.
00:37:28.440In Watergate, the Attorney General, John Mitchell, was sentenced to and served 22 months in jail.
00:37:33.580I think Merrick Garland has real criminal exposure.
00:37:36.760I believe there should be a special counsel investigating Merrick Garland.
00:37:40.180And I believe the House should be pursuing impeachment of Merrick Garland.
00:37:44.840But right now, the media has been corrupted.
00:37:49.020And the Democrat Party, there is not even a single Democrat who has shown the integrity to care whether the President is soliciting or has solicited and received millions of dollars of bribes.
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00:39:35.740But all those Republicans on the stage, they're going to be focusing on the guy in the middle of the stage, and that's going to be Ron DeSantis.
00:39:44.020My question for you, because you have done these debates, and you know how important they are, and how they can separate you from the crowd,
00:39:51.300and you had some incredible debates that really helped your campaign.
00:39:57.560What is this strategy going to be, and what would your strategy be on stage this week with dealing with this Hunter Biden information?
00:40:06.080Do you make this election about this and say, if I am elected, this is what I'm going to do, and how hard would you play that, or would you,
00:40:16.060what would the strategy be for if you were on this stage this week?
00:40:20.480Well, debates are frequently pivotal moments in presidential campaigns, and one of the reasons they are,
00:40:30.540is they're one of the very few events that you get so many eyeballs watching that you have the ability,
00:40:37.440a candidate has the ability to communicate with the voters going over the heads of the media gatekeepers.
00:40:43.200When you're running for president as a Republican, it is incredibly frustrating that you'll go and give a speech on the stump,
00:40:49.800and the news stations won't cover it, the newspapers won't write about it.
00:40:55.460If you roll out a policy proposal over and over again, they'll ignore it,
00:41:00.920and the advantage of a debate is you have a chance to talk directly to the voters.
00:41:05.780Look, you and I, and many of the listeners of Verdict, are following what's happening in the presidential campaign.