Verdict with Ted Cruz - Head of Secret Service Claims ZERO Responsibility for Security Failures, plus Dave McCormick Shares Being Alongside Trump DURING Shooting-LIVE from RNC

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00:00:05.520 Welcome.

00:00:06.160 It is Verdict, live from the Republican National Convention.

00:00:18.420 Senator, nice to be with you.

00:00:20.320 And it's always fun when we come to these events

00:00:22.300 because we get to hang out with friends.

00:00:24.080 It is great to be with you.

00:00:25.900 Half the time, we're recording Verdict

00:00:27.940 and either I'm at home in my bedroom

00:00:30.680 talking into a microphone late at night

00:00:32.780 and Heidi's yelling at me because she wants to go to sleep 0.94

00:00:34.920 or sometimes I'm in a dingy motel

00:00:37.560 talking into a microphone.

00:00:39.800 And when your power's out,

00:00:41.100 sometimes you're at my house at midnight.

00:00:42.580 Okay, that is true.

00:00:43.560 The last podcast we did,

00:00:45.120 you know, there was a hurricane that hit Houston.

00:00:47.460 Power went out and then my internet went out

00:00:49.500 so I couldn't get online.

00:00:51.300 So what did Ben say?

00:00:52.540 Get your rear end of the car and drive to my house.

00:00:55.040 I've got internet so that was the last podcast.

00:00:56.920 I dressed up for you.

00:00:58.240 Full PJs.

00:00:59.160 It was really, it was disturbing, actually.

00:01:02.880 He was in a Speedo.

00:01:04.400 Let me just say,

00:01:05.220 it was far too much Ferguson for my taste.

00:01:08.300 Do you hear this?

00:01:10.480 All right.

00:01:12.040 I'll get you back.

00:01:13.460 I will get you back.

00:01:15.140 We have a guest today.

00:01:16.180 We do.

00:01:16.740 So we are live in Milwaukee at the RNC.

00:01:19.600 We have a guest, a good friend of mine, Dave McCormick.

00:01:22.220 Now, who is Dave McCormick?

00:01:23.220 Dave McCormick is from Pennsylvania.

00:01:26.860 He was All-State in wrestling.

00:01:30.320 He was All-State in football.

00:01:33.400 He went to West Point,

00:01:35.040 where he was the captain of the wrestling team at West Point.

00:01:38.560 By the way, Dave was captain of the wrestling team at West Point.

00:01:44.220 Ben played varsity tennis at Ole Miss.

00:01:46.920 I was a debater.

00:01:50.280 Both of these guys would have shoved me in a locker and forgotten me.

00:01:56.620 Dave, we agree on that statement, right?

00:01:58.300 That's a bipartisan statement.

00:02:00.760 And I say would have,

00:02:01.840 if I have one more joke about Ben,

00:02:04.540 he may still shoved me in a locker.

00:02:07.460 So Dave, from there,

00:02:09.260 went on,

00:02:09.880 became an Army Ranger,

00:02:11.240 served in Iraq,

00:02:12.320 went and served in the federal government,

00:02:14.460 served as a senior official

00:02:15.800 in the federal government.

00:02:17.820 He became one of the leading businessmen in America

00:02:26.360 when Donald Trump was president.

00:02:28.440 President Trump tried to convince him

00:02:30.300 to leave making gazillions of dollars

00:02:32.760 and come be the deputy secretary of defense.

00:02:36.520 Dave declined at the time,

00:02:38.320 although his wife, Dina,

00:02:39.520 another very good friend,

00:02:41.100 was then the deputy national security advisor

00:02:43.900 to President Trump.

00:02:44.820 Dave is now running for Senate

00:02:48.000 in the state of Pennsylvania.

00:02:49.760 He is going to be the next senator

00:02:51.920 in the state of Pennsylvania.

00:02:57.540 When Dave wins,

00:02:59.020 he is going to single-handedly

00:03:01.240 give us a majority

00:03:02.560 and retire Chuck Schumer

00:03:03.880 as majority winner.

00:03:09.300 Dave has joined the podcast once before,

00:03:12.060 but he's here today

00:03:12.880 because we're going to start

00:03:14.100 on a bit of a somber note

00:03:15.780 and a note that the entire country

00:03:17.340 and the entire world is focused on,

00:03:19.360 which is what happened on Saturday.

00:03:22.640 And Dave was standing on stage

00:03:24.800 with President Trump

00:03:25.920 on Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:03:29.460 He was there

00:03:30.660 when the shooting occurred,

00:03:32.580 when the attempted assassination happened.

00:03:34.860 And so Dave,

00:03:35.380 I want to welcome you here.

00:03:36.740 And I would like to ask

00:03:39.640 if we could just start the podcast

00:03:41.860 by telling folks,

00:03:44.120 bring us to this day,

00:03:46.800 tell us what happened,

00:03:47.780 where were you standing

00:03:48.680 and what happened that you saw.

00:03:51.040 Yeah.

00:03:51.360 Well, thank you both for having me.

00:03:52.960 It's great to be with you.

00:03:54.080 And Senator Ted Cruz

00:03:55.240 is one of the great leaders

00:03:56.780 in America today,

00:03:57.680 one of the great voices.

00:03:58.640 So if I'm fortunate enough

00:03:59.840 to be in the Senate,

00:04:00.440 this would be a guy

00:04:01.100 I'd want to aspire to emulate.

00:04:02.500 So thank you.

00:04:03.340 Thank you for having me.

00:04:05.120 And let's do a clap on that. 0.87

00:04:07.500 So, you know,

00:04:08.680 this was one of the moments

00:04:10.860 I'm still digesting.

00:04:12.480 But what happened was

00:04:14.680 I had been with President Trump

00:04:16.120 in Philadelphia

00:04:16.760 about 10 days earlier

00:04:18.360 at a rally he did at Temple.

00:04:20.760 And so when I heard

00:04:23.480 that he was coming to Butler County,

00:04:25.180 we were in contact with his team.

00:04:26.920 And I went with the idea

00:04:29.700 that I'd see him beforehand,

00:04:31.440 which I did.

00:04:32.300 And he came in and I said,

00:04:33.580 Mr. President,

00:04:34.020 I want to thank you

00:04:34.660 for how great you were

00:04:35.760 in Philadelphia endorsing me

00:04:37.640 and your support.

00:04:39.060 And you can imagine,

00:04:39.840 President Trump,

00:04:40.100 he said,

00:04:40.320 this is going to be

00:04:40.940 10 times better.

00:04:42.120 10 times better.

00:04:43.340 He goes,

00:04:43.660 I'm going to have you

00:04:44.280 come up on stage.

00:04:45.260 I want you to take some time

00:04:47.680 and talk about your race.

00:04:49.040 It's very important

00:04:49.760 we win Pennsylvania.

00:04:50.460 And so he then went out

00:04:53.680 and sat in the audience.

00:04:54.640 And the president was looking out.

00:04:55.760 It was an incredible,

00:04:56.660 beautiful, hot day,

00:04:57.740 but beautiful.

00:04:58.820 15,000 people.

00:05:00.820 Just incredible people

00:05:01.900 as far as that warm,

00:05:04.740 cheerful, patriotic.

00:05:06.040 It was a wonderful day.

00:05:08.120 And tell us where we are.

00:05:09.960 Like, what part of Pennsylvania

00:05:11.080 is this?

00:05:11.900 What's the surrounding area?

00:05:13.000 Western Pennsylvania,

00:05:14.180 beautiful, rolling farmland.

00:05:16.740 This was at the Butler County

00:05:18.580 Farm Show.

00:05:20.120 And, you know,

00:05:21.140 it was a wide open area

00:05:22.220 for the most part

00:05:22.760 that was cordoned off

00:05:23.640 and set up bleachers.

00:05:25.100 Big state,

00:05:25.740 and an enormous flag

00:05:27.240 flying behind him,

00:05:28.960 which you probably all saw.

00:05:30.520 And people waited.

00:05:31.900 You know,

00:05:32.040 I didn't get there

00:05:32.540 until three o'clock or so,

00:05:33.900 but people waited.

00:05:34.940 It started mid-morning

00:05:35.880 and it was close

00:05:37.200 to 100 degrees,

00:05:37.960 just waiting.

00:05:38.960 And, you know,

00:05:39.280 there's no shade,

00:05:40.020 unfortunately.

00:05:40.500 And it was,

00:05:41.460 but the turnout

00:05:42.880 was incredible.

00:05:44.120 And so he,

00:05:45.720 so I sat,

00:05:46.700 he was looking out

00:05:47.300 at the crowd.

00:05:47.680 I sat on his right side

00:05:49.320 in the first row.

00:05:50.820 And he got up there

00:05:51.820 and true to form.

00:05:52.580 Within a minute,

00:05:53.120 couple minutes,

00:05:53.640 he started to talk

00:05:54.220 about my race.

00:05:55.460 Dave McCormick,

00:05:56.120 we want him to win this race.

00:05:57.800 This is important.

00:05:58.400 He started to talk

00:05:58.820 about my opponent,

00:05:59.820 Bob Casey.

00:06:01.200 And he said,

00:06:02.100 no,

00:06:02.220 why don't we have Dave

00:06:02.760 come up here

00:06:03.120 and talk about it?

00:06:04.020 And so this was,

00:06:05.300 you know,

00:06:05.580 right in the beginning.

00:06:07.040 And so I got up

00:06:08.060 and sort of went

00:06:08.800 through the security

00:06:09.460 and started to go up

00:06:10.460 onto the platform.

00:06:11.600 And he goes,

00:06:11.920 no, no, no.

00:06:13.020 I want to talk

00:06:13.840 about the border first.

00:06:15.860 He goes,

00:06:16.320 so Dave,

00:06:16.640 I'll have you up

00:06:17.040 in a little bit.

00:06:18.440 This is in front

00:06:19.120 of 15,000 people.

00:06:20.000 So I walked back down

00:06:20.860 again in my chair.

00:06:23.080 That's way 0.98

00:06:23.560 to follow instructions

00:06:24.340 right there, yeah.

00:06:25.540 You know,

00:06:25.980 I'm new to this

00:06:27.040 political stuff,

00:06:27.740 but I got the message.

00:06:29.660 And within a minute

00:06:31.220 or two,

00:06:32.220 the bullets started

00:06:33.720 to fire.

00:06:34.640 And I was a military guy,

00:06:35.860 as Ted said,

00:06:36.420 so I recognized

00:06:37.460 pretty quickly

00:06:38.000 this was rifle fire.

00:06:39.440 I wasn't sure

00:06:40.180 whether it was

00:06:41.100 one or two shooters.

00:06:42.220 I wasn't sure

00:06:42.940 exactly where

00:06:43.580 it was coming from.

00:06:44.800 And everybody

00:06:45.420 went down immediately.

00:06:47.960 And the president,

00:06:49.540 I saw,

00:06:50.680 reached for his ear

00:06:51.380 and then dropped

00:06:51.840 behind the podium.

00:06:53.340 And almost instantaneously,

00:06:55.400 the Secret Service

00:06:56.040 jumped on top of him,

00:06:57.200 as you all saw.

00:06:58.100 And then there was

00:07:00.580 activity behind me,

00:07:02.320 which sadly turned out

00:07:03.400 to be somebody

00:07:03.800 was shot

00:07:04.320 in the bleachers

00:07:05.460 behind me

00:07:05.980 and ultimately died

00:07:07.000 probably 25 feet

00:07:08.680 behind me.

00:07:09.940 And I was looking

00:07:11.500 at the president

00:07:12.160 and I watched

00:07:12.940 the Secret Service

00:07:13.580 get up around him

00:07:14.420 like that phalanx. 0.58

00:07:16.160 And I saw this fist

00:07:18.300 come out.

00:07:19.840 I couldn't see his face.

00:07:20.860 And then they moved a bit

00:07:21.760 and I saw his face

00:07:22.600 was bloody,

00:07:23.720 but that he was okay.

00:07:25.200 And I remember

00:07:27.760 having this moment

00:07:28.460 like the idea,

00:07:30.300 I mean,

00:07:30.520 a hundred people,

00:07:31.720 a hundred people

00:07:32.400 are behind that podium

00:07:33.340 when that shot gets fired.

00:07:34.640 Ninety-nine of them

00:07:35.480 are in the fetal position.

00:07:37.260 Right?

00:07:37.520 And the idea

00:07:38.100 that he had

00:07:38.520 the presence of mind,

00:07:40.500 the defiance,

00:07:42.580 the reassurance,

00:07:43.800 the courage

00:07:44.280 to stand up there

00:07:45.360 and put out that fist,

00:07:47.160 I think it was

00:07:47.920 one of the reasons

00:07:49.040 that there wasn't

00:07:49.580 a stampede.

00:07:50.520 No, it was extraordinary.

00:07:51.520 Right?

00:07:51.600 It was something

00:07:52.800 we have never seen before,

00:07:54.980 but it was

00:07:55.920 extraordinary leadership.

00:07:57.440 And you know,

00:07:57.800 it was reminiscent

00:07:58.600 of Reagan

00:08:00.840 after he was shot

00:08:01.720 in 81.

00:08:03.040 And in 81

00:08:04.040 after Reagan was shot,

00:08:05.720 he said to Nancy,

00:08:07.180 he said,

00:08:07.400 honey,

00:08:07.600 I forgot to die.

00:08:08.340 Yeah.

00:08:09.640 Yeah.

00:08:10.200 And as Reagan

00:08:11.240 was rolling

00:08:11.980 into the ER,

00:08:13.860 rolling into

00:08:14.520 the operating room

00:08:15.560 in the hospital,

00:08:16.500 he looked up

00:08:17.240 at the physicians

00:08:18.640 and he said

00:08:19.140 to the doctors,

00:08:19.760 he said,

00:08:20.060 I hope y'all

00:08:20.580 are all Republicans.

00:08:22.940 And so that was Reagan

00:08:24.460 and it was a great

00:08:25.380 historic,

00:08:27.280 common peace of mind.

00:08:28.500 And then you have

00:08:28.980 Teddy Roosevelt.

00:08:29.980 Yeah.

00:08:30.520 Teddy Roosevelt,

00:08:31.360 not too far away

00:08:32.140 from where we are

00:08:32.820 right now,

00:08:33.680 was giving a speech.

00:08:34.680 He's standing up there

00:08:35.740 and he's shot

00:08:36.500 giving a speech.

00:08:38.160 Now,

00:08:38.360 the bullet hits

00:08:39.300 the papers he has

00:08:40.960 in his coat,

00:08:42.380 but it also hits him

00:08:43.420 and he's shot

00:08:44.200 and Teddy Roosevelt

00:08:45.940 finishes the speech

00:08:47.660 and says

00:08:49.460 it takes more

00:08:50.140 than that

00:08:50.520 to kill a bull moose.

00:08:52.980 But I got to say 0.89

00:08:54.520 President Trump's reaction

00:08:56.260 I think

00:08:56.760 is very much

00:08:57.700 in line

00:08:58.360 with extraordinary

00:08:59.660 and historic

00:09:00.760 leaders

00:09:01.760 to stand up

00:09:02.740 and the Secret Service

00:09:03.360 is trying to get him

00:09:04.000 to go away

00:09:04.520 and look,

00:09:05.440 when a security detail

00:09:06.320 is pushing you,

00:09:07.000 they're not shy

00:09:07.680 and they're like

00:09:08.140 move, move

00:09:08.680 and you can see

00:09:09.220 him resisting.

00:09:10.480 No,

00:09:10.880 and he's saying

00:09:11.780 to the world

00:09:12.500 that image,

00:09:14.040 that image of him

00:09:15.560 with the American flag

00:09:16.620 behind him

00:09:17.180 with his fist

00:09:17.880 in the air

00:09:18.360 with blood

00:09:18.940 coming down

00:09:19.520 his face,

00:09:20.500 it shows

00:09:21.660 that no matter

00:09:22.760 how evil,

00:09:23.540 no matter

00:09:23.940 how many forces

00:09:25.500 are fighting

00:09:26.060 against us

00:09:26.720 that we can stand

00:09:27.800 and win

00:09:28.420 and turn the country

00:09:29.260 around.

00:09:29.500 That's incredible.

00:09:29.960 At the moment

00:09:39.240 you didn't realize

00:09:40.600 but we now realize

00:09:41.500 it was an inch.

00:09:42.640 An inch,

00:09:43.760 less than an inch

00:09:44.680 and it's one

00:09:46.200 of the most

00:09:46.820 calamitous events

00:09:48.580 in American history

00:09:49.680 and sadly

00:09:51.580 there were

00:09:53.120 others killed

00:09:53.960 and injured

00:09:54.420 that day

00:09:55.400 so you have the...

00:09:56.340 So you said

00:09:56.880 Chief Comparatoria

00:09:57.760 was behind you

00:09:58.880 about 25 feet

00:10:00.100 and I guess

00:10:01.760 I don't know

00:10:02.060 if any of y'all

00:10:02.660 have read

00:10:03.440 his daughter's

00:10:04.120 Facebook post

00:10:04.840 in our last podcast

00:10:05.760 we read it

00:10:06.280 in the pod

00:10:07.420 but his daughter's

00:10:08.580 Facebook post

00:10:09.300 she describes

00:10:10.040 how her father

00:10:10.880 literally blocked

00:10:12.760 through her

00:10:13.500 and through her

00:10:14.040 mother on the ground

00:10:14.800 and then blocked

00:10:16.320 their bodies

00:10:17.060 with his body

00:10:17.840 and he literally

00:10:18.660 took a bullet

00:10:19.360 to save the life

00:10:20.700 of his wife

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00:12:03.680 I want to ask you

00:12:04.720 a question

00:12:05.140 talking about heroes.

00:12:06.120 We've seen

00:12:06.960 the Secret Service

00:12:08.000 take a lot of heat

00:12:08.860 and I think

00:12:09.840 it's the bureaucracy

00:12:10.560 aspect of it

00:12:12.260 and the leadership

00:12:13.420 but what was it like

00:12:14.540 on the ground?

00:12:15.680 Because it looked like

00:12:16.860 there were a lot of heroes

00:12:17.860 and I think we should

00:12:18.800 separate them

00:12:19.620 from the bureaucracy

00:12:20.680 in D.C.

00:12:22.120 Yeah I'd say

00:12:22.800 two things could be true

00:12:24.340 at the same time

00:12:24.960 and I think they are.

00:12:26.760 One is

00:12:27.340 I mean it was almost

00:12:27.900 instantaneous.

00:12:28.860 I mean the Secret Service

00:12:29.600 were surrounding him

00:12:30.620 the SWAT team guys

00:12:33.200 came out

00:12:33.680 and were looking down

00:12:34.860 on the audience

00:12:35.520 obviously the sniper

00:12:37.200 was taken out quickly

00:12:38.580 and so

00:12:40.020 the response

00:12:41.300 seemed incredibly fast

00:12:43.080 and people were

00:12:43.980 certainly willing

00:12:44.440 to lay in front

00:12:45.420 of the bullet

00:12:45.840 for the president 0.95

00:12:46.760 at that point.

00:12:47.860 That seems true.

00:12:49.520 The other thing

00:12:50.100 that seems true

00:12:51.020 is you couldn't

00:12:51.880 what happened

00:12:52.820 was unthinkable.

00:12:54.340 The ease with which

00:12:55.640 a 20 year old kid

00:12:57.240 with a high powered rifle

00:12:58.240 got within 130 yards

00:12:59.620 of the president

00:13:00.060 seems unimaginable.

00:13:01.720 It's such a

00:13:02.400 example of incompetence

00:13:05.820 and failure

00:13:06.420 that it's almost hard

00:13:08.160 to believe it happened

00:13:09.200 and everything I hear

00:13:11.340 about it

00:13:11.860 makes me

00:13:12.880 and I know

00:13:13.600 Senator is much closer

00:13:14.720 to this than I am

00:13:15.360 makes me think

00:13:16.340 it's even more

00:13:16.960 unbelievable

00:13:17.420 that it happened

00:13:18.060 so we could have

00:13:19.500 heroes on the ground

00:13:20.240 and also have

00:13:21.120 one of the biggest

00:13:22.260 leadership failures

00:13:23.960 and bureaucratic failures

00:13:25.400 in American history

00:13:26.760 that we need to get

00:13:27.840 to the bottom of

00:13:28.620 because you know

00:13:29.940 listen I'm not always

00:13:31.560 I'm not known

00:13:32.080 in my family

00:13:32.540 to be the best shot

00:13:33.360 but a 9 out of 10

00:13:34.580 Pennsylvania deer hunters

00:13:35.600 could have made that shot

00:13:37.000 10 times out of 10.

00:13:38.180 I mean that was not

00:13:38.960 a hard shot

00:13:39.700 and the fact

00:13:40.720 that the first thing

00:13:41.380 we heard was

00:13:42.040 that that roof

00:13:43.240 was not in the envelope

00:13:44.440 I mean what

00:13:45.880 it's insane

00:13:46.400 well and I just got off

00:13:49.180 a couple of hours ago

00:13:50.760 with a conference call

00:13:52.120 with the head

00:13:52.500 of the secret service

00:13:53.320 and the head

00:13:53.620 of the FBI

00:13:54.140 so I'm going to walk

00:13:55.240 you into that

00:13:56.200 and talk about that

00:13:57.220 in just a minute

00:13:58.080 before I do that

00:13:58.840 I want to finish

00:13:59.820 talking through

00:14:01.500 the experience

00:14:02.160 on the ground

00:14:02.700 now when it happens

00:14:04.400 you hear the gunshot

00:14:05.580 and look

00:14:06.920 you've been in Iraq

00:14:07.720 you've seen combat

00:14:08.960 before

00:14:09.400 this is not

00:14:10.040 those are not

00:14:10.640 the first gunshots

00:14:11.380 you've heard

00:14:11.760 I imagine things

00:14:15.100 are utterly chaotic

00:14:16.860 could you perceive

00:14:18.920 when they took

00:14:19.920 the shooter out

00:14:20.680 could you tell

00:14:21.420 that was happening

00:14:22.140 could you tell

00:14:22.640 where the shooter was

00:14:23.500 how much of that

00:14:24.480 could you tell

00:14:25.200 from the ground

00:14:26.100 at the rally

00:14:27.060 not much

00:14:28.100 not much

00:14:28.640 I honestly thought

00:14:31.020 that there were

00:14:32.400 two shooters

00:14:32.920 for a while

00:14:34.260 I thought there were

00:14:34.760 two shooters

00:14:35.140 it was very hard to tell

00:14:36.080 and maybe the other

00:14:37.100 reason I thought

00:14:37.580 that was because

00:14:38.100 of the secret service

00:14:38.700 but it felt to me

00:14:40.580 like there was

00:14:41.800 multiple guns

00:14:42.660 and so everybody

00:14:44.200 was hunkered down

00:14:45.180 and it was

00:14:46.460 you couldn't really

00:14:47.060 step up

00:14:47.660 and you know

00:14:48.140 did people rush out

00:14:49.560 and panic

00:14:50.020 did they walk out

00:14:50.660 how did people react

00:14:51.900 that was the amazing

00:14:52.720 thing

00:14:52.980 people reacted with

00:14:54.240 obviously concern

00:14:56.120 and confusion

00:14:56.560 but there was no panic

00:14:58.580 absolutely no panic

00:15:00.640 and was that because

00:15:01.740 Donald Trump stood up

00:15:02.820 I really believe that

00:15:03.720 I mean you saw the crowd

00:15:05.640 even behind him

00:15:06.360 in faces

00:15:06.880 where they hunkered down

00:15:08.640 and then he stood up

00:15:09.620 with a fist

00:15:10.060 and it was like

00:15:10.620 they stood up with him

00:15:11.700 USA

00:15:12.160 they started to chant USA

00:15:13.320 I think the way

00:15:15.080 Trump responded

00:15:16.040 gave people confidence

00:15:18.520 not to panic

00:15:19.700 and there was no panic

00:15:21.960 and it took you know

00:15:23.340 hours to unwind things

00:15:24.820 because the secret service

00:15:25.740 blocked things off

00:15:26.600 and you know

00:15:27.040 I walked in

00:15:27.720 you know

00:15:28.240 I'd been on the screen

00:15:29.120 so many people

00:15:30.540 knew who I was

00:15:31.240 everybody would come up

00:15:32.440 to me and say

00:15:32.740 what happened

00:15:33.160 what do you know

00:15:33.960 I didn't know much

00:15:34.680 to be honest with you

00:15:36.240 because that's the way

00:15:37.020 it isn't a situation

00:15:37.820 like that

00:15:38.100 you don't know much

00:15:38.960 but it took a while

00:15:40.880 to know that we

00:15:41.400 weren't under attack

00:15:42.640 any further

00:15:43.760 and just to take the story

00:15:45.820 one step further

00:15:46.660 I had a chance

00:15:49.440 to talk to the president

00:15:51.180 the next day

00:15:51.740 I called him

00:15:52.560 and just said

00:15:54.000 Mr. President

00:15:54.360 I'm so glad you're okay

00:15:55.460 and you know

00:15:56.200 what an example of courage

00:15:58.080 and he said

00:15:59.340 two minutes

00:16:00.200 two more minutes

00:16:01.660 so you'd have been

00:16:02.060 on that stage with me

00:16:03.200 and he said

00:16:05.780 I'm such a Trump

00:16:07.060 by the way

00:16:07.500 I'm such a Trump

00:16:08.120 like hey

00:16:08.960 you ought to be glad

00:16:09.600 I like to talk so much

00:16:10.760 I saved your life

00:16:12.020 you owe me forever

00:16:13.060 it's even better

00:16:13.860 he said two more minutes

00:16:14.940 and I thought he was

00:16:15.720 going to say

00:16:16.180 and you might have

00:16:16.880 been hurt too Dave

00:16:17.700 and he said

00:16:18.620 you would have been

00:16:19.240 in prime time

00:16:19.980 he knows his audience

00:16:24.320 what was it like

00:16:25.900 after he left

00:16:26.980 and then how did it unfold

00:16:29.320 how long were you there

00:16:30.580 when did they let you

00:16:32.160 leave on your own

00:16:33.360 or was it orderly

00:16:34.360 what was it like

00:16:35.140 it was orderly

00:16:35.840 but you know

00:16:36.580 because it was

00:16:38.320 the way it went down

00:16:39.600 cars were blocked

00:16:41.020 and they had blocked off

00:16:41.860 a whole part of the

00:16:42.840 the way the people came in

00:16:44.280 you know honestly

00:16:44.940 when I came in

00:16:45.640 I came in a special entrance

00:16:47.340 they knew I was coming

00:16:48.780 they knew who I was

00:16:49.560 I was wanted

00:16:50.500 the security seemed reasonable

00:16:52.480 the security lines

00:16:54.060 were for hours

00:16:54.800 to get through all the

00:16:55.700 the metal detectors

00:16:57.800 and so forth

00:16:58.400 but they closed off

00:16:59.980 a lot of that

00:17:00.420 so it took a while

00:17:00.960 for people to get out

00:17:01.520 it took hours

00:17:02.080 and everybody was

00:17:03.600 you know

00:17:04.200 the cell phone coverage

00:17:06.180 was bad

00:17:06.760 so everybody was trying

00:17:08.120 to get connected

00:17:08.860 and make sure that

00:17:09.720 you know their loved ones

00:17:10.580 weren't hurt

00:17:11.000 and things like that

00:17:11.880 and people were just

00:17:13.940 worried that the president

00:17:14.860 was not okay

00:17:16.520 and then when it became

00:17:17.560 clear the president

00:17:18.060 was okay

00:17:18.560 but there were other casualties

00:17:19.560 it was a sad moment

00:17:22.280 well look I will say

00:17:23.180 and you said this earlier

00:17:24.120 it is utterly infuriating

00:17:25.700 that this occurred

00:17:27.440 this should have been

00:17:28.320 prevented

00:17:28.720 and this afternoon

00:17:30.000 there was an all senators

00:17:31.660 call

00:17:32.020 with the head

00:17:33.040 of the secret service

00:17:33.840 and the head

00:17:34.600 of the FBI

00:17:35.140 and the call lasted

00:17:37.520 about 45 minutes

00:17:38.620 I will say

00:17:40.340 it was a deeply

00:17:41.800 frustrating call

00:17:42.720 so for the first

00:17:44.380 30 minutes

00:17:44.920 they talked

00:17:45.440 and they basically

00:17:46.020 filibustered

00:17:46.560 and they got up

00:17:48.080 and they described

00:17:48.900 all the security steps

00:17:50.660 they did

00:17:51.220 they went their days

00:17:52.100 ahead of time

00:17:52.740 they did this

00:17:53.340 they did this

00:17:53.920 they did this

00:17:54.500 they did everything else

00:17:55.320 and they went through

00:17:55.840 excruciating details

00:17:57.660 of a timeline

00:17:58.280 of everything they did

00:17:59.360 and they did everything

00:18:00.420 except stop a bloody man

00:18:01.760 with a rifle 0.97

00:18:02.240 from shooting the president 0.84

00:18:03.220 and it's kind of like

00:18:05.160 I mean it was

00:18:06.640 it was maddening

00:18:08.700 and then on this call

00:18:11.600 they allowed

00:18:12.360 a couple of questions

00:18:14.360 they had a thing

00:18:15.920 where you hit a number

00:18:16.680 to dial a question

00:18:17.500 I immediately hit a number

00:18:18.620 to dial a question

00:18:19.520 by the way

00:18:20.540 Mike Lee immediately

00:18:21.620 hit a number

00:18:22.080 to dial a question

00:18:22.800 Marsha Blackburn

00:18:23.500 immediately hit a number

00:18:24.440 question

00:18:25.080 none of us got our questions

00:18:26.460 they did just a handful

00:18:28.820 of questions

00:18:29.480 and I got to tell you

00:18:30.380 the questions

00:18:30.940 were pretty patty cage 0.98

00:18:32.960 look

00:18:35.560 the questions

00:18:37.100 that I would have asked

00:18:38.360 had I gotten the chance

00:18:41.960 and that I intend to ask

00:18:43.080 we need to have

00:18:43.640 congressional hearings

00:18:44.500 and we should have them

00:18:45.280 next week

00:18:46.380 with the head

00:18:46.860 of the secret service

00:18:47.740 and DHS

00:18:48.680 and the FBI

00:18:49.400 under all

00:18:50.160 but listen

00:18:55.540 the obvious questions

00:18:57.560 to ask

00:18:57.980 that nobody asked

00:18:58.980 that Chuck Schumer

00:18:59.660 certainly didn't ask

00:19:00.700 number one

00:19:02.280 why were there not

00:19:02.860 more agents assigned

00:19:03.700 why were there not

00:19:04.620 enough agents assigned

00:19:05.900 to protect the president

00:19:06.880 number two

00:19:08.200 why was that rooftop

00:19:09.380 not secured

00:19:10.120 it was 160 yards away

00:19:11.700 it was an obvious

00:19:12.600 line of sight

00:19:13.480 number three

00:19:14.480 why was there no

00:19:15.160 aerial support

00:19:15.800 why were there no drones

00:19:16.780 why was there no helicopter

00:19:17.940 why was there nothing

00:19:19.700 providing aerial coverage

00:19:21.680 number four

00:19:23.140 they went through

00:19:24.920 a timeline

00:19:25.580 that this individual

00:19:26.860 the shooter

00:19:27.820 and I won't say his name

00:19:29.160 I don't say the names

00:19:30.220 of shooters 1.00

00:19:30.980 these bastards 1.00

00:19:31.780 deserve to be forgotten 1.00

00:19:32.940 by history

00:19:33.640 I will not repeat his name

00:19:35.160 but the shooter

00:19:37.120 they spotted him

00:19:39.620 over an hour earlier

00:19:41.160 walking in

00:19:42.000 with a range finder

00:19:43.160 to measure the range

00:19:45.760 they also spotted him

00:19:47.040 a half hour earlier

00:19:48.520 casing the building

00:19:49.680 that he ultimately

00:19:50.380 climbed up on top of

00:19:51.640 and so the questions

00:19:54.320 I intended to continue

00:19:55.360 to ask is

00:19:56.120 why didn't you

00:19:57.080 detain the guy

00:19:58.160 and why the hell

00:20:01.660 did you allow

00:20:02.340 the president

00:20:02.880 to keep speaking

00:20:03.760 if you're searching

00:20:05.380 for someone you think

00:20:06.580 might be an active sniper

00:20:08.140 there's a very easy thing

00:20:10.700 for the secret service

00:20:11.600 to say

00:20:12.120 which is hold on a second

00:20:13.480 we're putting a pause

00:20:14.360 on this

00:20:14.740 we're getting the president

00:20:15.480 out of harm's way

00:20:16.260 why didn't they do

00:20:17.420 any of that

00:20:18.200 and I didn't get a chance

00:20:19.120 to ask any of those

00:20:20.420 questions

00:20:20.880 because this was

00:20:22.920 I think a CYA

00:20:24.500 briefing

00:20:25.620 and it is frustrating

00:20:28.060 I will tell you

00:20:29.460 they asked the head

00:20:31.660 of the secret service

00:20:32.540 how did the guy

00:20:33.180 get to the top

00:20:33.900 of the building

00:20:34.360 she said

00:20:34.720 why

00:20:34.900 I don't know

00:20:35.500 the hell do you mean 0.96

00:20:36.760 you don't know 0.57

00:20:37.380 this was four days ago

00:20:39.940 five days ago

00:20:41.020 and you don't know

00:20:42.020 how he got up

00:20:42.700 to the building

00:20:43.300 is there a more

00:20:44.420 important question

00:20:45.560 that you're dealing

00:20:47.240 with

00:20:47.480 well yes

00:20:48.040 it's how to cover 0.98

00:20:48.760 your rear end

00:20:49.460 from political 0.87

00:20:50.240 accountability

00:20:50.920 because you don't

00:20:53.660 actually want to

00:20:54.580 what let me ask you

00:20:56.260 what does it take

00:20:57.440 to get fired

00:20:58.180 by Joe Biden

00:20:58.920 like seriously

00:21:00.960 this woman

00:21:01.580 should be fired

00:21:02.540 yesterday

00:21:03.500 it was the most

00:21:05.100 spectacular failure

00:21:06.840 and let's be clear

00:21:08.520 it is not difficult

00:21:09.620 to figure out

00:21:10.560 but it is a risk

00:21:12.060 to a president

00:21:12.840 from a rifleman

00:21:14.880 from a high vantage point

00:21:16.260 we do have a little

00:21:17.080 bit of history

00:21:17.820 to be clear

00:21:19.240 that was not my father

00:21:20.180 they retracted it recently

00:21:24.340 so we know

00:21:24.980 the National Enquirer

00:21:25.640 says it was not

00:21:26.420 there you go

00:21:27.060 it only took him

00:21:28.560 ten years

00:21:29.080 I did have

00:21:31.180 on the floor

00:21:31.660 of the RNC

00:21:32.460 a reporter

00:21:32.960 asked me about that

00:21:33.820 last night

00:21:34.300 actually on the floor

00:21:35.300 standing right

00:21:35.900 with the Texas

00:21:36.340 that's a hard hitting

00:21:36.980 question right there

00:21:37.920 and I said

00:21:38.940 let me tell you

00:21:39.840 actually a quote

00:21:40.800 from Marco Rubio

00:21:42.820 2016 campaign

00:21:44.320 when the allegation

00:21:45.640 came up

00:21:46.120 that my father

00:21:46.700 was involved

00:21:47.380 in killing JFK

00:21:48.920 and I said

00:21:52.400 look

00:21:52.700 Republican senators

00:21:54.000 we have lunch together

00:21:55.200 every Tuesday

00:21:55.740 Wednesday

00:21:56.120 and Thursday

00:21:56.680 in DC

00:21:57.300 Marco stood up

00:21:58.700 in front of all

00:21:59.260 our colleagues

00:21:59.840 and he said

00:22:00.320 let me tell you

00:22:00.920 I know for an

00:22:01.900 absolute fact

00:22:03.300 Ted's dad

00:22:04.880 did not kill JFK

00:22:06.280 and Marco

00:22:09.520 continued

00:22:10.160 he said

00:22:10.620 because if a Cuban

00:22:11.780 had done that

00:22:12.500 he would have

00:22:13.260 told everyone

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00:22:53.780 this is a known

00:22:57.020 threat

00:22:57.640 and it is

00:22:58.700 infuriating

00:22:59.840 that they did

00:23:01.300 not protect

00:23:02.140 against it

00:23:02.820 look you're

00:23:03.320 having been

00:23:03.780 on the ground

00:23:04.200 and you're also

00:23:04.760 having been

00:23:05.500 an army ranger

00:23:06.860 in Iraq

00:23:07.320 give me your

00:23:08.540 your perspective

00:23:09.720 on the just

00:23:10.720 maddening failure

00:23:13.320 and to be clear

00:23:14.040 I want to underscore

00:23:14.680 what Ben said

00:23:15.360 it's not a failure

00:23:16.200 by the individual

00:23:17.060 secret service agents

00:23:18.260 those men and women

00:23:19.500 put themselves

00:23:20.300 in harm's way

00:23:21.360 and acted

00:23:22.020 heroically

00:23:22.820 it is the

00:23:23.660 bureaucratic

00:23:24.320 leadership

00:23:24.820 that is covering

00:23:25.580 their hindquarters 1.00

00:23:26.420 and taking

00:23:27.200 zero responsibility

00:23:28.560 for their

00:23:29.180 disastrous decisions

00:23:30.200 give me your

00:23:31.280 reactions

00:23:31.660 well you know

00:23:32.500 if you sort of

00:23:33.480 listed the

00:23:34.220 ten most obvious

00:23:36.900 ways that the

00:23:38.040 president could be

00:23:38.560 put at risk

00:23:39.140 in this circumstance

00:23:39.820 this rooftop

00:23:41.120 would have been

00:23:41.700 in the top three

00:23:42.480 you know this

00:23:43.160 would have been

00:23:43.520 an obvious place

00:23:45.120 that the president

00:23:45.700 so I have no

00:23:48.180 answer

00:23:48.500 it seems

00:23:50.240 high

00:23:51.020 and this is why

00:23:51.660 an investigation

00:23:52.160 is so important

00:23:52.800 your hearings

00:23:53.220 are so important

00:23:53.760 it kind of seems

00:23:54.920 by the way

00:23:55.280 it's not clear

00:23:55.940 we're going to

00:23:56.260 have senate hearings

00:23:57.100 because it takes

00:23:57.780 the democrats

00:23:58.340 to call them 0.99

00:23:59.160 so dick durbin 0.73

00:24:00.380 is the chairman 0.93

00:24:00.960 of the senate

00:24:01.420 judiciary committee

00:24:02.420 we have jurisdiction

00:24:03.780 over this

00:24:04.540 a number of us

00:24:05.520 have called on

00:24:06.200 dick durbin

00:24:06.620 to call a hearing

00:24:07.440 but we don't have

00:24:08.160 a hearing scheduled

00:24:08.760 there's going to be

00:24:09.160 a house hearing

00:24:09.880 but senate democrats

00:24:11.200 as far as I can tell

00:24:12.880 are not interested

00:24:13.560 in finding out

00:24:14.260 what happened

00:24:14.780 we certainly haven't

00:24:15.800 heard a hearing

00:24:16.240 announced yet

00:24:16.860 there has to be

00:24:18.900 and the reason is

00:24:19.680 it's hard to imagine

00:24:21.260 a 20 year old kid

00:24:22.420 all of you are parents

00:24:25.180 here

00:24:25.440 imagine you're a 20 year old

00:24:26.860 plotting

00:24:28.260 this thing in isolation

00:24:30.460 developing a plan

00:24:32.020 knowing enough

00:24:32.860 to be able to

00:24:34.360 piece together a plan

00:24:35.580 that would be so effective

00:24:36.740 in a security environment

00:24:38.860 which shouldn't have been

00:24:39.860 as permissive

00:24:40.700 as it was

00:24:41.640 and by the way

00:24:42.680 we had news breaking

00:24:43.680 this week

00:24:44.380 that the government

00:24:45.580 of iran

00:24:46.240 has hired hitmen

00:24:47.220 to murder 0.86

00:24:47.640 donald trump 0.97

00:24:48.800 so this is

00:24:50.380 we still don't know

00:24:51.200 a ton about this shooter

00:24:52.420 but at least right now

00:24:53.800 it appears to be

00:24:54.500 a 20 year old kid

00:24:55.580 who went up

00:24:56.380 and did this

00:24:57.180 like holy cow

00:24:59.200 if they can't

00:24:59.840 protect against that

00:25:00.960 what about a

00:25:01.800 professional hit squad

00:25:03.020 from an enemy

00:25:03.620 of this country

00:25:04.360 I mean this is

00:25:05.280 incredibly disturbing

00:25:07.340 right

00:25:07.780 and unexplainable

00:25:09.100 so thank you

00:25:10.220 for what you're doing

00:25:10.740 and I will say

00:25:11.800 there's a danger

00:25:12.720 there's a danger

00:25:14.600 of this being

00:25:15.420 like Afghanistan 0.93

00:25:16.280 look Afghanistan 0.93

00:25:18.160 you look at the

00:25:18.980 disastrous incompetence

00:25:20.720 of the Biden administration

00:25:21.780 in that withdrawal

00:25:22.680 and it encouraged

00:25:24.740 every enemy of America

00:25:26.060 it encouraged

00:25:27.280 it played a major role

00:25:29.420 in why Putin

00:25:30.280 invaded Ukraine

00:25:31.280 it played a major role

00:25:32.980 I believe

00:25:33.500 in an October 7th

00:25:34.680 in Hamas

00:25:35.140 attacking Israel 0.98

00:25:36.420 that our enemies

00:25:37.540 looked to the

00:25:38.300 Biden administration

00:25:39.080 and said these people

00:25:40.100 are utterly weak 0.95

00:25:40.840 and ineffective 0.99

00:25:41.420 I've got to say

00:25:42.580 for any

00:25:43.120 every enemy of America

00:25:44.700 they look at

00:25:46.060 the incompetence

00:25:46.960 of the secret service

00:25:47.980 under the Biden administration

00:25:49.200 and I don't even like

00:25:51.320 saying these words

00:25:52.620 but it's important

00:25:53.400 to acknowledge this risk

00:25:54.820 our enemies

00:25:55.720 have just been encouraged

00:25:56.820 the danger has gone up

00:25:59.100 because they say

00:26:00.360 if that jack doodle

00:26:01.520 can do it

00:26:02.160 what about if we send

00:26:04.600 in real trained professionals

00:26:06.800 they also said

00:26:08.180 if Donald Trump

00:26:09.720 gets elected

00:26:10.180 I don't want to

00:26:10.560 mess with that guy 1.00

00:26:11.200 hold on

00:26:13.760 this is a point

00:26:14.860 reiterate that

00:26:16.260 because that's actually

00:26:17.300 a very important point

00:26:18.580 if you're an enemy of America

00:26:19.620 think if you're

00:26:20.340 sitting in Tehran

00:26:21.820 or in Beijing

00:26:23.020 or in Moscow

00:26:24.800 or other places

00:26:27.020 where adversaries sit

00:26:28.760 terrorist cells

00:26:29.600 wherever they might be

00:26:30.460 and you watch

00:26:31.520 that videotape

00:26:32.360 and I think you say

00:26:34.440 if that guy

00:26:35.520 becomes president

00:26:36.320 which I think he's going

00:26:37.380 to become president

00:26:38.440 again

00:26:38.800 I'm not going

00:26:40.300 to mess with him

00:26:40.940 I'd use other language

00:26:42.980 if we weren't on the

00:26:43.680 if we weren't on your podcast

00:26:45.420 but we're not going to mess

00:26:46.680 we're not going to mess

00:26:47.940 with that guy 0.52

00:26:49.020 because he's a mean hombre

00:26:50.920 and he's tough

00:26:52.340 and his instinct

00:26:53.920 is to fight

00:26:54.720 and so I think

00:26:56.980 almost overnight

00:26:58.340 we've lost deterrence

00:26:59.540 under Joe Biden

00:27:00.140 adversaries

00:27:01.340 it's like the bully

00:27:02.120 on the playground

00:27:02.640 they're not afraid

00:27:03.720 to punch us 0.99

00:27:04.340 in the face 0.99

00:27:04.840 I think the day

00:27:06.140 Donald Trump

00:27:06.840 takes office again

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00:29:18.960 senator I want to

00:29:20.000 ask you this

00:29:20.520 you mentioned the

00:29:21.260 senate only meeting

00:29:22.960 details

00:29:24.300 I'm going to read

00:29:24.820 this from CBS

00:29:25.440 News details

00:29:26.160 are emerging

00:29:26.700 about the

00:29:27.100 moments that led

00:29:27.740 to the shooting

00:29:28.260 bystanders alerted

00:29:29.460 law enforcement

00:29:30.200 to the government

00:29:30.980 on the roof

00:29:31.540 of a building

00:29:32.560 about 410 feet

00:29:34.280 away from the

00:29:35.040 stage at least

00:29:36.000 two minutes

00:29:36.900 before the first

00:29:39.000 shot was fired

00:29:39.880 at Trump

00:29:41.040 yep

00:29:41.420 how vulnerable

00:29:43.740 are we

00:29:45.260 and how vulnerable

00:29:46.920 is every president

00:29:47.900 past and present

00:29:49.680 if you've got a

00:29:51.560 two minute warning

00:29:52.360 and the job is still

00:29:53.720 not done

00:29:54.340 did anyone answer

00:29:55.320 that question

00:29:56.040 on the call

00:29:56.520 look we need to

00:29:57.440 have part of the

00:29:58.100 reason we need to

00:29:58.680 have a hearing

00:29:59.160 is there are a whole

00:29:59.700 series of questions

00:30:00.620 about how many

00:30:01.240 threats have there

00:30:01.860 been

00:30:02.040 how many agents

00:30:02.900 did you have

00:30:03.400 assigned

00:30:03.880 should there be

00:30:05.700 2x 3x 4x as many

00:30:07.700 agents assigned

00:30:08.520 to the president

00:30:09.200 what resources

00:30:10.520 what equipment

00:30:11.320 did you have

00:30:12.320 the threat profile

00:30:14.820 I'm willing to bet

00:30:16.160 that Donald Trump

00:30:17.580 is the single most

00:30:18.640 threatened individual

00:30:19.520 on the face of the

00:30:20.180 planet

00:30:20.480 now I don't

00:30:21.980 actually have the

00:30:22.940 facts of the

00:30:23.560 threats that have

00:30:24.100 come in to prove

00:30:25.580 that is correct

00:30:26.420 but you know what

00:30:27.060 secret service does

00:30:27.860 and I would like us

00:30:30.760 to know what is the

00:30:31.600 comparative threat

00:30:32.360 level between

00:30:33.320 Trump and Biden

00:30:34.400 and my concern

00:30:36.260 is that did

00:30:38.520 politics play a

00:30:39.860 role was it

00:30:40.500 politics or

00:30:41.280 incompetence

00:30:42.080 because it's clear

00:30:43.020 they screwed up

00:30:43.720 massively

00:30:44.200 I can tell you

00:30:45.920 in this call

00:30:46.580 so you had one

00:30:47.320 senator who asked

00:30:48.300 were there drones

00:30:49.980 yes or no

00:30:50.780 and the answer

00:30:52.440 from the head

00:30:53.200 of the secret

00:30:53.640 service was

00:30:54.560 we determined

00:30:56.280 that the risk

00:30:56.940 from that

00:30:57.500 rooftop

00:30:58.220 was mitigated

00:30:59.440 by counter

00:31:00.020 snipers

00:31:00.560 meaning no

00:31:02.640 number one

00:31:04.060 she didn't even 0.80

00:31:04.640 say the word

00:31:05.480 no

00:31:05.840 which is what

00:31:06.880 someone honestly

00:31:07.940 would say

00:31:08.620 she didn't say

00:31:09.580 well obviously

00:31:10.220 we needed drones

00:31:10.940 and we should have

00:31:11.440 had them

00:31:11.740 which is what

00:31:12.160 someone obviously

00:31:12.920 would have said

00:31:13.440 she didn't make 0.71

00:31:14.520 the obvious point

00:31:15.480 well the roof

00:31:16.200 was slanted

00:31:16.860 so the counter

00:31:17.500 snipers couldn't

00:31:18.320 see the guy

00:31:19.080 because he was

00:31:19.780 on the other

00:31:20.220 end of the slant

00:31:21.140 and by the way

00:31:22.240 I'm pretty sure

00:31:23.820 the roof didn't

00:31:24.620 suddenly slant

00:31:25.560 itself in between

00:31:27.100 when they advanced

00:31:28.020 the scene

00:31:28.640 and when it occurred

00:31:30.260 in other words

00:31:30.840 they could have

00:31:31.380 figured out

00:31:32.120 if your quote

00:31:33.660 mitigation

00:31:34.380 is counter

00:31:35.580 snipers

00:31:36.160 and they don't

00:31:36.680 have a line

00:31:37.420 of sight

00:31:37.940 to a place

00:31:38.760 a sniper

00:31:39.200 could be

00:31:39.840 then you don't

00:31:40.660 have effective

00:31:41.420 mitigation

00:31:42.020 she addressed

00:31:43.240 none of that

00:31:44.340 but it was

00:31:45.280 pure bureaucraties 0.55

00:31:47.400 that's a good

00:31:49.360 word for it

00:31:50.060 this is why

00:31:51.780 I love having

00:31:52.260 live studio

00:31:52.900 audience

00:31:53.380 when you look

00:31:55.360 at the room

00:31:55.880 and for the

00:31:56.980 folks listening

00:31:57.680 at home

00:31:58.080 since we are

00:31:58.640 in a studio

00:31:59.060 audience

00:31:59.440 and the audience

00:32:00.100 is not

00:32:00.600 mic'd

00:32:01.340 I will just

00:32:01.920 say

00:32:02.320 you guys

00:32:03.160 were in

00:32:03.460 a cow field

00:32:04.160 and they

00:32:04.520 suggested

00:32:05.040 it was a

00:32:05.560 substance

00:32:05.880 that was

00:32:06.180 probably there

00:32:06.820 in large

00:32:07.300 amounts

00:32:08.180 exactly

00:32:08.920 when you

00:32:10.620 were there

00:32:11.180 and after

00:32:12.580 the shooting

00:32:13.040 happened

00:32:13.460 you saw

00:32:14.440 how close

00:32:14.980 it was

00:32:15.240 were you

00:32:15.620 shocked

00:32:16.160 because I'm

00:32:16.760 sure you

00:32:17.020 saw the

00:32:17.280 commotion

00:32:17.580 on the

00:32:17.800 rooftop

00:32:18.020 I'm sure

00:32:18.620 you knew

00:32:18.960 that's where

00:32:19.400 the shots

00:32:19.920 came out

00:32:20.460 from

00:32:20.800 then you

00:32:22.160 look at

00:32:22.620 it

00:32:22.780 is there

00:32:23.120 any

00:32:23.320 I mean

00:32:24.020 former military

00:32:24.980 when you

00:32:25.320 look at

00:32:25.660 it

00:32:25.780 could you

00:32:26.100 believe

00:32:26.380 that

00:32:26.640 building

00:32:27.140 was not

00:32:27.540 monitored

00:32:27.880 the way

00:32:28.180 it should

00:32:28.420 have been

00:32:28.680 well you

00:32:28.940 know

00:32:29.060 I would

00:32:29.540 just be

00:32:29.800 honest

00:32:29.960 I didn't

00:32:30.320 know

00:32:30.560 on the

00:32:32.520 site

00:32:32.780 you're in

00:32:33.900 the middle

00:32:34.220 of

00:32:34.440 people

00:32:34.920 you're trying

00:32:35.800 to get

00:32:36.060 people out

00:32:36.600 so I

00:32:37.220 wasn't

00:32:37.680 sure

00:32:38.360 until I

00:32:38.820 got back

00:32:39.280 and saw

00:32:39.720 the TV

00:32:40.720 projections

00:32:41.220 and the aerial

00:32:41.700 photos

00:32:42.200 where it came

00:32:46.160 was

00:32:46.480 absolutely

00:32:47.240 because it's

00:32:48.120 the most

00:32:48.440 obvious

00:32:48.920 place

00:32:49.980 and the

00:32:50.420 idea

00:32:50.760 just to go

00:32:51.260 back to

00:32:51.540 my earlier

00:32:51.920 point

00:32:52.240 the idea

00:32:53.320 that the

00:32:54.000 sniper

00:32:55.340 the 20

00:32:56.240 year old

00:32:56.660 kid who

00:32:57.400 has no

00:32:58.480 experience

00:32:59.200 would have

00:33:00.120 known the

00:33:00.680 place

00:33:01.220 where he

00:33:02.440 wouldn't be

00:33:02.920 in the

00:33:03.220 sniper's

00:33:03.760 line of

00:33:04.100 sight

00:33:04.360 these are

00:33:06.100 questions

00:33:06.480 I don't

00:33:06.980 know what

00:33:07.260 the answer

00:33:07.600 is

00:33:07.840 but it

00:33:08.660 seems

00:33:08.960 highly

00:33:09.420 unlikely

00:33:09.960 that a

00:33:10.940 single

00:33:11.220 person

00:33:11.680 could have

00:33:12.060 pulled

00:33:12.300 this off

00:33:12.860 without

00:33:13.440 so much

00:33:14.200 luck

00:33:14.700 and so

00:33:15.420 much

00:33:15.620 incompetence

00:33:16.140 and so

00:33:16.720 that's why

00:33:17.160 the hearings

00:33:17.800 to give

00:33:18.560 us confidence

00:33:19.160 that we

00:33:20.340 understand

00:33:20.720 what really

00:33:21.140 happened

00:33:21.420 here

00:33:21.640 are so

00:33:22.240 incredibly

00:33:22.700 important

00:33:23.120 well

00:33:24.840 and look

00:33:25.220 I will say

00:33:25.720 the FBI

00:33:26.320 was on

00:33:26.980 and they're

00:33:27.360 investigating

00:33:27.960 and at least

00:33:28.640 what they're

00:33:29.100 reporting right

00:33:29.840 now is they

00:33:30.400 don't have

00:33:30.840 evidence of

00:33:31.380 anyone else

00:33:31.860 being involved

00:33:32.540 and they're

00:33:32.960 looking at

00:33:33.460 his cell phone

00:33:34.000 and his

00:33:34.220 computers

00:33:34.620 and they're

00:33:34.940 engaged in

00:33:35.420 the forensics

00:33:36.140 and we

00:33:37.340 will find

00:33:37.920 out

00:33:38.140 we have

00:33:38.540 seen

00:33:38.900 with other

00:33:39.360 instances

00:33:39.860 there are

00:33:40.360 times

00:33:40.740 where their

00:33:41.120 lone

00:33:41.360 shooters

00:33:41.800 commit

00:33:42.440 horrific

00:33:42.840 attacks

00:33:43.320 and it's

00:33:43.720 possible

00:33:44.180 that this

00:33:45.000 young man

00:33:45.700 who is an

00:33:47.400 alienated

00:33:48.160 loner

00:33:48.740 that unfortunately

00:33:49.940 is a profile

00:33:51.000 we've seen

00:33:52.180 in other

00:33:52.540 instances of

00:33:53.300 people who

00:33:53.680 have committed

00:33:54.100 horrific

00:33:54.620 offenses

00:33:55.360 and so

00:33:55.820 we'll find

00:33:56.920 out in

00:33:57.500 time

00:33:58.340 you know

00:33:59.780 I will say

00:34:00.440 when the

00:34:00.960 shooting occurs

00:34:01.720 this is one

00:34:02.740 of the moments

00:34:03.380 I think

00:34:05.340 every one of us

00:34:06.280 is going to

00:34:06.620 remember exactly

00:34:07.420 where we were

00:34:08.100 when this

00:34:08.480 happened

00:34:08.820 and whether

00:34:10.060 we were

00:34:10.480 staring

00:34:10.940 in horror

00:34:11.580 at a

00:34:11.940 television

00:34:12.320 set

00:34:12.800 or

00:34:13.360 in my

00:34:14.260 instance

00:34:14.640 I was

00:34:15.040 sitting there

00:34:15.440 having a meal

00:34:15.980 with Heidi

00:34:16.460 and we're

00:34:16.800 staring at

00:34:17.380 horror at

00:34:17.840 our phones

00:34:18.460 and hitting

00:34:19.140 refresh

00:34:19.660 and by the

00:34:20.220 way

00:34:20.500 it says

00:34:21.300 something

00:34:21.760 that nobody

00:34:23.160 was on

00:34:23.560 news sites

00:34:24.200 you're on

00:34:24.580 social media

00:34:25.200 you're on

00:34:25.580 X

00:34:25.820 because it's

00:34:26.140 the fastest

00:34:26.640 thing

00:34:27.060 you're getting

00:34:27.700 immediate updates

00:34:28.660 of what's

00:34:29.180 happening

00:34:29.520 one after

00:34:30.100 the other

00:34:30.500 after the

00:34:30.940 other

00:34:31.180 so we

00:34:31.820 talked about

00:34:32.400 for example

00:34:33.020 in our last

00:34:33.520 podcast

00:34:34.020 we played

00:34:34.620 from what got

00:34:35.480 put up on

00:34:36.020 X

00:34:36.340 like one

00:34:37.800 of the guys

00:34:38.180 standing outside

00:34:38.860 the rally

00:34:39.320 that saw

00:34:39.860 this guy

00:34:40.380 climbing on

00:34:40.980 the roof

00:34:41.300 yelling to

00:34:42.120 cops

00:34:42.400 there's a

00:34:43.020 guy with

00:34:43.580 a rifle

00:34:44.060 on the

00:34:44.540 roof

00:34:44.760 we now

00:34:45.180 know a

00:34:45.500 local

00:34:45.720 police

00:34:46.100 officer

00:34:46.540 climbed up

00:34:47.420 to that

00:34:47.720 roof

00:34:47.960 he pointed

00:34:48.480 the rifle

00:34:49.060 at the

00:34:49.740 local

00:34:49.980 police

00:34:50.380 officer

00:34:50.800 and yet

00:34:51.440 and we

00:34:52.240 haven't had

00:34:52.640 these questions

00:34:53.360 yet

00:34:53.740 what level

00:34:54.660 of communication

00:34:55.200 was there

00:34:56.000 between the

00:34:56.460 local police

00:34:57.040 and the

00:34:57.300 secret service

00:34:58.040 the instant

00:34:59.240 the local

00:34:59.800 police officer

00:35:00.640 saw a

00:35:01.600 sniper on

00:35:02.300 a roof

00:35:02.700 with a

00:35:03.840 gun

00:35:04.180 he should

00:35:05.700 have been

00:35:06.000 yelling

00:35:06.380 in his

00:35:06.800 microphone

00:35:07.360 shooter

00:35:07.960 shooter

00:35:08.400 shooter

00:35:08.900 instantaneously

00:35:10.280 the secret

00:35:10.820 service

00:35:11.200 should have

00:35:11.500 pulled

00:35:11.720 trump

00:35:12.060 off of that

00:35:12.940 stage

00:35:13.360 before the

00:35:13.980 shooter

00:35:14.240 could aim

00:35:14.800 and they

00:35:15.280 should have

00:35:15.560 taken him

00:35:15.920 out right

00:35:16.340 there

00:35:16.660 that didn't

00:35:17.580 happen

00:35:17.980 which raises

00:35:21.960 the question

00:35:22.840 was the secret

00:35:23.640 service

00:35:24.220 did they have

00:35:25.400 communication

00:35:26.140 synchronized

00:35:27.040 with local

00:35:27.540 law enforcement

00:35:28.340 and I will

00:35:29.740 tell you

00:35:30.140 something also

00:35:30.760 so I

00:35:31.240 right before

00:35:32.240 this podcast

00:35:32.940 I was going

00:35:33.340 to ask you

00:35:33.700 that question

00:35:34.220 because people

00:35:34.840 are going to

00:35:35.040 want to hear

00:35:35.360 this

00:35:35.700 you just

00:35:36.700 met

00:35:37.300 president

00:35:37.880 trump

00:35:38.240 at the

00:35:39.020 convention

00:35:39.460 for people

00:35:39.940 that are

00:35:40.200 listening

00:35:40.560 you got

00:35:42.220 to see him

00:35:42.560 this first

00:35:42.940 time

00:35:43.320 since this

00:35:44.460 happened

00:35:44.560 first time

00:35:44.960 I've seen

00:35:45.300 him since

00:35:45.640 he was shot

00:35:46.380 and I've

00:35:47.060 visited with

00:35:47.640 him

00:35:47.860 what did

00:35:48.600 he say

00:35:48.900 look number

00:35:49.820 one he is

00:35:50.640 happy

00:35:51.720 he is

00:35:52.380 strong

00:35:53.220 his ear

00:35:53.660 is bandaged

00:35:54.380 I will

00:35:56.140 tell you

00:35:56.640 he

00:35:56.860 he was

00:35:59.860 quiet

00:36:00.280 for a

00:36:00.660 second

00:36:00.900 and he

00:36:03.520 spoke

00:36:03.960 with a

00:36:04.340 seriousness

00:36:04.900 that was

00:36:05.820 unlike

00:36:06.120 anything

00:36:06.620 I've

00:36:06.920 heard

00:36:07.120 from

00:36:07.320 Donald

00:36:07.580 Trump

00:36:07.820 before

00:36:08.220 and he

00:36:10.480 said

00:36:10.700 God

00:36:10.920 saved me

00:36:11.320 that day

00:36:11.700 and

00:36:13.800 listen

00:36:14.960 I believe

00:36:15.560 that is

00:36:16.140 absolutely

00:36:17.740 right

00:36:18.220 many of

00:36:20.280 us have

00:36:20.640 seen

00:36:21.100 online

00:36:21.760 for example

00:36:22.500 recreations

00:36:23.480 of the

00:36:23.820 angle

00:36:24.120 of the

00:36:24.400 bullet

00:36:24.660 and had 0.94

00:36:25.720 his head

00:36:26.260 turned

00:36:26.840 even

00:36:27.180 slightly

00:36:27.760 to the

00:36:28.200 right

00:36:28.460 or even

00:36:28.860 slightly

00:36:29.240 to the

00:36:29.660 left

00:36:30.040 he would

00:36:31.700 have been 0.98

00:36:31.860 killed

00:36:32.100 and it

00:36:33.940 is

00:36:34.440 what I

00:36:36.020 said

00:36:36.400 at the

00:36:36.920 convention

00:36:37.340 last night

00:36:38.120 I thank

00:36:39.160 God

00:36:39.600 for saving

00:36:40.260 him

00:36:40.480 I believe

00:36:40.920 God

00:36:41.200 turned

00:36:41.500 his head

00:36:41.880 turned

00:36:42.260 his head

00:36:42.700 so that

00:36:43.040 the path

00:36:43.460 of the

00:36:43.700 bullet

00:36:43.960 did not

00:36:44.720 kill him

00:36:45.200 that day 1.00

00:36:45.580 and

00:36:47.520 listen

00:36:49.040 this is

00:36:50.400 horrific

00:36:50.880 I will

00:36:51.580 say

00:36:51.840 going back

00:36:52.360 to the

00:36:52.660 Reagan

00:36:52.860 analogy

00:36:53.300 one of

00:36:53.680 the

00:36:53.800 things

00:36:54.180 Reagan

00:36:55.620 always

00:36:56.060 said

00:36:56.420 is that

00:36:57.640 when he

00:36:57.960 survived

00:36:58.600 that

00:36:58.840 assassination

00:36:59.340 attempt

00:37:00.200 that it

00:37:00.500 changed

00:37:00.820 that it

00:37:02.260 gave him

00:37:02.920 a seriousness

00:37:03.660 of purpose

00:37:04.380 that God

00:37:04.940 spared me

00:37:05.500 for a reason

00:37:06.120 and

00:37:07.420 listen

00:37:08.120 I think

00:37:08.480 what President

00:37:09.000 Trump has

00:37:09.480 done already

00:37:09.940 for the

00:37:10.260 country

00:37:10.560 has been

00:37:10.940 extraordinary

00:37:11.500 but

00:37:12.000 I gotta say

00:37:13.960 just visiting

00:37:14.580 with him

00:37:14.900 a few

00:37:15.160 minutes ago

00:37:15.760 it was

00:37:16.400 powerful

00:37:17.120 in a

00:37:17.700 very

00:37:17.980 different

00:37:18.420 way

00:37:18.640 and this

00:37:18.880 was just

00:37:19.320 him and

00:37:20.100 me

00:37:20.260 talking

00:37:20.880 one on

00:37:21.300 one

00:37:21.660 that it

00:37:23.440 had a

00:37:24.280 real impact

00:37:24.940 and I

00:37:25.240 also

00:37:25.600 I talked

00:37:26.700 to him

00:37:26.920 about this

00:37:27.320 briefing

00:37:27.960 I just

00:37:28.260 left

00:37:28.600 and I

00:37:29.520 expressed

00:37:30.040 how

00:37:30.460 deeply

00:37:32.000 frustrating

00:37:32.760 it was

00:37:34.480 now I

00:37:34.800 will say

00:37:35.280 have you

00:37:35.580 noticed

00:37:36.040 Trump's

00:37:37.560 secret

00:37:37.760 service

00:37:38.260 detail here

00:37:39.180 at the

00:37:39.340 convention

00:37:39.700 they look

00:37:40.080 like an

00:37:40.300 offensive lineman

00:37:41.000 like a

00:37:41.960 whole line

00:37:42.640 they brought

00:37:43.140 him the

00:37:43.540 Green Bay Packers

00:37:44.340 I'm pretty

00:37:44.840 sure the

00:37:45.680 entire

00:37:46.220 Green Bay Packers

00:37:47.420 are right now

00:37:48.360 surrounding Donald Trump

00:37:49.300 what is your

00:37:49.760 weight and how

00:37:50.460 tall are you

00:37:51.080 yes we'll take

00:37:51.760 you today

00:37:52.180 yeah it is

00:37:53.560 different

00:37:53.840 final question

00:37:54.660 for each of

00:37:55.300 you as we

00:37:55.720 wrap

00:37:56.040 I believe

00:37:56.900 bringing in the

00:37:57.560 Packers is

00:37:58.040 probably worth

00:37:58.500 three points

00:37:58.980 it was

00:37:59.180 at least

00:37:59.620 that was

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00:39:23.760 final final question I

00:39:25.120 believe that Thursday

00:39:26.020 night actually may be the

00:39:27.480 most important speech of

00:39:28.720 Donald Trump's life I

00:39:31.340 think that his speech is an

00:39:33.200 opportunity for him to

00:39:34.640 unite the country in a way

00:39:36.440 that he's never been able to

00:39:37.460 do and bring people into the

00:39:38.960 Republican Party that

00:39:39.900 maybe have written it off I

00:39:42.540 think everyone is going to

00:39:43.780 watch to see what he says

00:39:45.120 how important do you think

00:39:46.800 the speech is I think it's

00:39:47.680 his most important speech

00:39:48.720 ever I agree with you I mean

00:39:52.020 I was I'm not surprised to

00:39:55.080 hear you say that the

00:39:55.680 president was quiet I think

00:39:57.080 he does feel like he I'm

00:39:59.320 speculating but I haven't

00:40:00.540 spoken with him about this but

00:40:01.920 that he was spared for a

00:40:03.540 reason and that this is his

00:40:05.140 opportunity and I think

00:40:06.600 people want to be united and I

00:40:08.960 think this this sent a chill

00:40:11.340 through our nation yeah it

00:40:13.380 didn't just send a chill through

00:40:14.400 Republicans and Trump

00:40:15.440 supporters just sent a chill

00:40:16.380 through everybody that the state

00:40:18.340 of our politics the the

00:40:20.500 nastiness the evil the

00:40:22.200 violence that's been

00:40:24.360 encouraged by some of the

00:40:25.460 nasty rhetoric has to come to

00:40:27.300 an end and that there's a

00:40:28.160 moment and I think based on

00:40:31.140 what he said in his statement

00:40:32.940 I think there's an

00:40:33.960 opportunity for him to really

00:40:35.860 unite the country I had

00:40:36.760 someone who called me the

00:40:37.740 other day who was a Trump

00:40:39.100 someone who didn't like

00:40:40.260 President Trump at all who

00:40:41.480 was a donor and he said

00:40:42.920 listen the guy I saw get off

00:40:45.100 that floor and stand up and

00:40:47.380 put his fist in the air I

00:40:48.840 want that guy to be our

00:40:49.480 president and I think this is

00:40:51.320 the moment and I don't think

00:40:53.120 it's an accident that it

00:40:53.980 happened and I think it's all

00:40:54.900 part of a grand plan and so

00:40:56.120 I'm very hopeful and very

00:40:58.100 optimistic and I think it's

00:40:59.620 his moment for you know

00:41:01.800 really bringing our country

00:41:03.180 together in a way it hasn't

00:41:04.200 been for years

00:41:04.800 look I agree that his speech

00:41:10.120 tomorrow night is incredibly

00:41:11.280 important I also saw the news

00:41:13.360 break today that that on

00:41:16.940 Friday President Trump is

00:41:19.240 going to be attending Chief

00:41:20.400 Comparatore's funeral and I

00:41:22.640 think that is the right thing

00:41:23.740 to do it he will go down as

00:41:28.940 an American hero but but this

00:41:31.460 is a moment I think for

00:41:32.720 everyone I hope to come

00:41:34.240 together and I will say as I

00:41:37.120 was doing a bunch of media

00:41:38.280 interviews last night with

00:41:39.940 reporters and and they kept

00:41:41.520 asking Republicans are so

00:41:44.460 united

00:41:46.100 it is a little odd though it's

00:41:49.940 been a long time it's been a

00:41:51.840 long time we finally got our

00:41:53.280 stuff together

00:41:54.020 enjoy that moment

00:41:57.000 their look of like befuddlement

00:42:00.560 combined with frustration like 0.98

00:42:04.780 damn it can't you fight with 0.98

00:42:06.560 each other but like come on just 0.99

00:42:08.360 start yelling at each other

00:42:09.420 please that's what we want to

00:42:10.820 cover and look I think that is

00:42:13.760 the one overwhelming word out of

00:42:15.300 this convention is unity and and

00:42:17.340 I couldn't help but point out to

00:42:18.860 each of the reporters I said I

00:42:20.120 sure hope you're prepared to do a

00:42:22.400 compare and contrast to the

00:42:24.420 Democrat convention

00:42:25.160 yeah because they may not have

00:42:28.140 been for another few weeks they

00:42:29.740 are utterly divided I don't know

00:42:31.360 how many of y'all saw today

00:42:32.900 Adam Schiff came out and said Joe

00:42:36.700 Biden should drop out that he

00:42:38.180 can't win

00:42:38.700 moments before the laptop was

00:42:42.840 real at the same time so so

00:42:44.660 where I saw the president was at

00:42:49.120 the premiere of a new movie that

00:42:50.660 the day bossy and citizens united is

00:42:52.520 putting out Trump's mission rescue

00:42:54.860 mission saving America it's a

00:42:57.080 terrific documentary and and and so

00:42:59.280 I was there for it Trump was there

00:43:00.740 for it so he got up and spoke and

00:43:02.620 introduced it it's very funny he did

00:43:04.200 basically a roast of Dave bossy he

00:43:05.760 said you know I'm speaking tomorrow

00:43:06.940 and and everyone says the

00:43:09.120 president before you accept the

00:43:10.340 nomination you're supposed to shut 0.83

00:43:11.620 up and and not talk but then bossy 0.99

00:43:14.220 made me do this damn it so I'm here 0.97

00:43:15.580 and he sort of did did a Trump 0.98

00:43:18.120 trademark uh few minute riff including

00:43:21.220 pointing out that that that that Adam

00:43:23.720 Schiff whom he promptly calls whom I

00:43:26.980 call watermelon head

00:43:28.840 and I'm sitting next to Jeff Landry the

00:43:37.360 governor of Louisiana great guy and I

00:43:39.620 just said Jeff he really is one of a

00:43:41.700 kind tell me someone else who would say

00:43:44.760 standing on stage Adam Schiff whom I call

00:43:48.660 watermelon head

00:43:49.620 but you know sometimes clarity is

00:43:54.120 helpful and confusion yes and uh and

00:43:57.600 communicating and uh look I think

00:44:00.360 tomorrow will matter enormously and I do

00:44:02.380 hope look I hope this is a moment when

00:44:06.080 the entire country comes together amen

00:44:07.560 programming note for everybody

00:44:09.200 listening we will be doing a special

00:44:10.820 show tomorrow on Thursday at the

00:44:12.940 convention so make sure you grab that

00:44:15.060 to our audience has been here in

00:44:17.060 Milwaukee you guys are incredible thank

00:44:18.820 you so much for coming out thank you

00:44:20.620 thank you

00:44:22.660 thank you thank you it was fun and we'll

00:44:27.900 see you back here tomorrow

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - July 18, 2024

Head of Secret Service Claims ZERO Responsibility for Security Failures, plus Dave McCormick Shares Being Alongside Trump DURING Shooting-LIVE from RNC

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