Verdict with Ted Cruz - May 08, 2023


Panic Over Hunter Biden, plus Clarence Thomas Smear and with Title 42 Expiring, Border Will Get Even Worse


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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is joined by Ben Ferguson (D-NJ) to discuss breaking news involving Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, an update on Clarence Thomas and what s happening on Capitol Hill, and finally, the end of Title 42 and what's happening at the border.

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00:00:05.600 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.320 Nice to have you with us today.
00:00:10.860 We've got a lot to talk about, including some breaking news with Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
00:00:15.240 Plus, an update on one of our shows that went viral dealing with Clarence Thomas
00:00:19.980 and what's happening on Capitol Hill.
00:00:22.120 And finally, the end of Title 42 and what's happening at the border.
00:00:25.440 Senator, I want to get your initial response to the ex-spy.
00:00:29.380 And this is really big news.
00:00:31.720 Behind the discredited Hunter Biden letter, claiming that that laptop was Russian disinformation,
00:00:39.320 said he wanted to provide the Biden campaign with a debate talking point, quote unquote, your reaction to that.
00:00:48.820 Well, we now have an email on October 19th, 2020, where Michael Morell, former senior official in the FBI,
00:00:59.380 is emailing to John Brennan, who was Obama's head of the FBI.
00:01:04.060 And the email says, John, can I add your name to this list?
00:01:08.120 We'll be adding Leon, Sue Gordon, Jay Johnson, George, Lisa Monaco, and Mike Rogers today.
00:01:15.480 And working on adding Dan Coats, Mike Rogers, and Tom Bosert, and lists of other IC career folks trying to give the campaign,
00:01:25.880 particularly during the debate on Thursday, a talking point to push back on Trump on this issue.
00:01:32.680 Thanks, Michael.
00:01:34.380 And here's Brennan's entire response.
00:01:36.760 Okay, Michael, add my name to the list.
00:01:40.040 Good initiative.
00:01:41.420 Thanks for asking me to sign on.
00:01:44.020 This was politics.
00:01:45.920 This was senior officials of the intelligence community lying for politics.
00:01:52.540 Give Biden a debate talking point.
00:01:54.400 Never mind that it's a lie.
00:01:55.500 falsely claim the true information in Hunter Biden's laptop is actually Russian disinformation
00:02:01.620 because they know Biden will be all the happy to lie about it.
00:02:06.020 And by the way, who is John Brennan?
00:02:07.720 John Brennan was Obama's CIA director,
00:02:10.500 who is such a radical
00:02:13.340 that
00:02:14.840 when he was a young man
00:02:17.120 1980 election
00:02:20.120 between Jimmy Carter
00:02:22.300 and Ronald Reagan.
00:02:24.260 Do you know who John Brennan voted for?
00:02:26.740 I'm going to guess not Ronald Reagan.
00:02:28.940 Not Ronald Reagan, but not Jimmy Carter.
00:02:32.640 He voted for the communist on the ballot.
00:02:36.820 Wow.
00:02:37.940 He said Jimmy Carter
00:02:39.500 is not liberal enough,
00:02:41.260 and so he voted for the communist nominee
00:02:44.180 to be president of the United States.
00:02:46.800 That's who Obama
00:02:48.400 put
00:02:49.460 put in place.
00:02:52.200 It was Gus Hall was his name
00:02:53.580 and he was the nominee
00:02:55.260 of the Communist Party of the United States.
00:02:57.380 He was the nominee in 1972,
00:02:59.360 1976,
00:03:00.100 1980,
00:03:00.600 and 1984.
00:03:02.220 And John Brennan said,
00:03:03.600 no, that Jimmy Carter guy,
00:03:05.840 too much of a right winger.
00:03:07.500 Give me the full-fledged communist.
00:03:09.360 And you know one of the things communists
00:03:10.820 are happy to do?
00:03:12.400 Lie.
00:03:13.720 Lie when it helps them politically.
00:03:15.420 Actually,
00:03:15.780 communists embrace lying
00:03:17.360 as one of the tools
00:03:18.560 they engage in.
00:03:20.020 That
00:03:20.400 is who
00:03:22.020 Tony Blinken,
00:03:22.860 who got rewarded
00:03:23.640 with Secretary of State,
00:03:25.380 that's who Tony Blinken
00:03:26.600 was rounding up.
00:03:28.620 Give me the communist
00:03:29.440 who ran the CIA.
00:03:31.160 You know,
00:03:31.400 it's sort of like,
00:03:32.400 let's call Mikey,
00:03:33.220 he'll eat anything.
00:03:34.420 Let's call John,
00:03:35.260 he'll say anything.
00:03:36.740 And they got their talking point
00:03:38.180 at the debate,
00:03:38.760 and Biden was more than happy
00:03:40.340 to repeat it,
00:03:41.000 even though it was an utter
00:03:42.340 and complete lie.
00:03:43.980 This is,
00:03:44.920 you and I have had this discussion
00:03:46.420 behind the scenes,
00:03:47.300 and I'm excited to tell
00:03:48.680 the audience,
00:03:50.120 we've decided on Wednesday
00:03:51.540 to do a special show
00:03:53.780 really recapping
00:03:55.140 where we are
00:03:56.080 with Joe Biden,
00:03:56.980 the Biden-crank family,
00:03:58.400 the nine family members
00:03:59.560 that we know of
00:04:00.100 taking money,
00:04:01.160 and we're going to have
00:04:01.760 a very special guest.
00:04:02.760 That's right,
00:04:04.440 up to 12,
00:04:04.940 excuse me,
00:04:05.440 12 people now.
00:04:06.780 Tell everybody
00:04:07.480 who we're going to be having
00:04:08.400 on the show on Wednesday
00:04:09.460 and why they don't want
00:04:10.120 to miss that one.
00:04:11.340 Well,
00:04:11.760 we'll be having
00:04:12.300 my longtime friend,
00:04:13.440 Jim Jordan,
00:04:14.100 he's going to join us
00:04:14.880 on the pod,
00:04:15.460 and we're going to do
00:04:15.960 a deep dive
00:04:16.680 into the investigations
00:04:17.820 that Jim is leading
00:04:19.420 in the House of Representatives.
00:04:20.900 We're going to talk
00:04:21.420 about where they stand,
00:04:22.500 we're going to talk
00:04:22.940 about the details,
00:04:23.980 and the nice thing
00:04:24.620 about it is
00:04:25.120 we're going to go through
00:04:26.560 it at a level
00:04:27.100 of specificity
00:04:28.060 that you don't get into
00:04:30.200 watching a TV show.
00:04:32.260 Look,
00:04:32.860 you know,
00:04:33.120 I go on Fox News,
00:04:34.380 I go on Newsmax,
00:04:35.260 I do TV hits,
00:04:36.060 you do also.
00:04:37.400 You're doing a six-minute hit,
00:04:39.260 an eight-minute hit,
00:04:40.720 you can get a little
00:04:41.540 talking point in,
00:04:42.360 you can say something,
00:04:43.440 a brief little,
00:04:44.220 a line that's catchy,
00:04:45.580 maybe a tiny little vignette,
00:04:47.920 but that's it.
00:04:49.880 A big part of the reason
00:04:51.460 I like the podcast format
00:04:53.140 is you actually have
00:04:54.900 the ability to discuss
00:04:55.940 something of substance.
00:04:57.040 So we're going to sit down
00:04:57.740 with Jim Jordan
00:04:58.400 and say,
00:04:58.760 let's talk about this.
00:04:59.740 What's this about?
00:05:00.440 What are the issues?
00:05:02.040 What are the facts?
00:05:02.880 What do we know?
00:05:03.620 What do we need to know?
00:05:05.160 And so if you really
00:05:06.660 want to understand
00:05:07.660 all of the evidence
00:05:09.580 of corruption
00:05:10.400 surrounding Joe Biden,
00:05:12.800 both in his time
00:05:13.520 as vice president
00:05:14.320 and in his time
00:05:14.980 as president,
00:05:17.140 Wednesday's podcast
00:05:18.000 is going to be one
00:05:19.060 you won't want to miss
00:05:19.840 because we're going to
00:05:20.360 walk through the details
00:05:21.560 carefully in clear,
00:05:23.180 understandable ways.
00:05:24.080 One last question
00:05:25.580 on this one.
00:05:26.500 There does seem to be
00:05:28.100 a narrative change
00:05:30.400 recently on this.
00:05:32.180 There does seem to be now
00:05:33.200 a White House
00:05:33.820 that's willing to speak out
00:05:35.140 and not just dodge things
00:05:37.600 being forced,
00:05:38.540 I would argue,
00:05:39.100 to speak out on this.
00:05:40.620 Do you feel that
00:05:41.600 even in Washington, D.C.,
00:05:43.180 where there's so much
00:05:44.080 numbness to scandals
00:05:45.380 and even jadedness,
00:05:46.980 that this does seem
00:05:48.300 to be changing
00:05:48.960 a little bit?
00:05:49.620 It does.
00:05:51.940 And look,
00:05:52.460 to show you how bad it is,
00:05:53.820 let me just read you
00:05:54.980 three headlines
00:05:56.160 from the past week.
00:05:58.380 Headline number one
00:05:59.220 from CBS News.
00:06:00.980 Grassley Comer
00:06:01.940 alleged bribery scheme
00:06:03.820 involving Biden
00:06:05.280 and demand documents
00:06:07.100 from FBI.
00:06:08.380 That's one headline.
00:06:10.280 Here's a second headline.
00:06:11.440 This one is from Politico.
00:06:14.800 Bracing for impact.
00:06:16.740 Biden world preps
00:06:18.480 for Hunter Biden fallout.
00:06:21.980 Biden aides are more worried
00:06:23.240 about the personal toll
00:06:24.280 it will take on the president
00:06:25.340 as a father.
00:06:27.100 So that's headline number two.
00:06:28.620 All right,
00:06:28.780 let me just give you
00:06:29.360 one more headline.
00:06:30.360 Number three.
00:06:32.320 Biden setting stage
00:06:33.660 for pardoning Hunter
00:06:35.240 as he frames
00:06:37.220 potential DOJ charges
00:06:38.840 as political witch hunt.
00:06:42.060 Biden denied
00:06:43.100 that a potential Hunter indictment
00:06:44.560 would have any impact
00:06:45.660 on his presidency.
00:06:46.620 That's from Fox News.
00:06:48.480 Again,
00:06:49.440 just just in the past
00:06:51.460 couple of days.
00:06:52.920 This is getting worse
00:06:54.600 and worse and worse.
00:06:56.660 And the amazing thing is
00:06:57.820 this is all why
00:06:59.300 while DOJ is desperately
00:07:00.860 trying to cover up
00:07:01.780 the connection
00:07:02.360 to the big guy,
00:07:04.000 to daddy.
00:07:04.860 They're trying to put it
00:07:06.040 all on Hunter,
00:07:07.060 the poor troubled soul
00:07:08.220 and protect against
00:07:10.060 any investigation
00:07:11.040 into the real corruption
00:07:12.740 that is the matter
00:07:13.940 of public concern.
00:07:14.700 Yeah,
00:07:15.560 the Wednesday show
00:07:16.300 is going to be one
00:07:16.960 for the books.
00:07:17.680 Make sure you hit that
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00:07:21.900 and tell your family
00:07:23.440 and friends about it,
00:07:24.260 especially on Wednesday.
00:07:25.040 It's going to be a really fun,
00:07:26.320 in-depth,
00:07:27.020 deep look at this story
00:07:28.600 and where it stands now
00:07:30.180 with this actual investigation
00:07:31.360 on the House side
00:07:32.240 with Jim Jordan.
00:07:33.520 He will join us
00:07:34.140 on Wednesday's show,
00:07:35.340 so make sure for that.
00:07:36.880 Senator,
00:07:37.080 I want to also move
00:07:38.180 to another update
00:07:39.680 and this was dealt
00:07:40.980 with Clarence Thomas.
00:07:42.700 We talked about it,
00:07:43.940 had a special guest
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00:07:47.380 was going to happen.
00:07:48.520 We knew that next day
00:07:49.420 by Democrats.
00:07:50.180 They're trying to undermine him,
00:07:51.460 really undermine
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00:09:14.560 you were exposing
00:09:16.800 the baseless smears
00:09:18.180 that were directed
00:09:19.860 at Justice Thomas
00:09:20.660 by Democrats
00:09:21.400 and the media
00:09:22.840 who has been
00:09:23.440 doing this as well.
00:09:24.760 They have been
00:09:25.200 all in on trying
00:09:26.080 to take down
00:09:26.720 Clarence Thomas.
00:09:27.820 I want to play
00:09:29.220 for everybody
00:09:30.040 because it was
00:09:31.040 just so brilliant.
00:09:32.640 You exposing
00:09:33.800 just some of these lies
00:09:35.040 before Congress
00:09:36.040 as Democrats
00:09:36.660 were gearing up
00:09:37.440 and they want to get rid
00:09:38.480 of Clarence Thomas.
00:09:39.280 Make no mistake about it.
00:09:40.600 Take a listen to this.
00:09:41.860 In 1991,
00:09:43.620 Justice Clarence Thomas
00:09:44.560 appeared before
00:09:45.220 this committee
00:09:45.820 in one of the most
00:09:47.420 disgraceful performances
00:09:49.100 by the Senate Judiciary
00:09:50.200 Committee
00:09:50.520 in our nation's history.
00:09:52.560 Justice Thomas
00:09:53.240 rightly described
00:09:54.320 the treatment he got
00:09:55.360 from then Chairman
00:09:56.240 Joe Biden
00:09:56.960 and Senate Democrats
00:09:58.540 as a quote
00:09:59.340 high-tech lynching.
00:10:01.760 It is sad to see
00:10:03.060 30 years later
00:10:03.980 this committee
00:10:04.540 is again engaged
00:10:06.480 in the same
00:10:07.040 despicable tactics.
00:10:09.160 Senate Democrats 1.00
00:10:10.180 and their lapdogs 0.98
00:10:11.180 in the media 0.97
00:10:11.640 are engaged
00:10:12.500 in a two-fold
00:10:13.320 political campaign.
00:10:15.260 Number one,
00:10:15.860 to delegitimize
00:10:16.640 the Supreme Court
00:10:17.460 of the United States
00:10:18.260 because they are angry
00:10:19.300 that they are a majority
00:10:20.540 of constitutionalists
00:10:21.540 on the court.
00:10:22.820 But number two,
00:10:24.120 very directly,
00:10:25.220 this is a political campaign
00:10:26.840 designed to smear
00:10:28.360 Justice Clarence Thomas.
00:10:31.240 And the reason is simple.
00:10:32.380 The left despises
00:10:34.500 Clarence Thomas.
00:10:36.720 And they do not despise him
00:10:38.140 because he's a conservative.
00:10:39.540 The left despises
00:10:41.000 Clarence Thomas
00:10:41.800 because he is a conservative
00:10:43.160 African-American.
00:10:44.720 Here's what Clarence Thomas
00:10:45.680 said at that confirmation hearing.
00:10:47.700 He said,
00:10:48.180 if you are a free-thinking
00:10:49.840 African-American,
00:10:50.920 quote, 1.00
00:10:51.320 you will be lynched, 1.00
00:10:52.720 destroyed, 0.99
00:10:53.420 and caricatured
00:10:54.540 by a committee
00:10:55.060 of the U.S. Senate.
00:10:57.160 Well,
00:10:57.400 in three decades
00:10:58.040 that hasn't changed
00:10:58.920 and it's gotten worse.
00:10:59.800 And to be clear,
00:11:01.000 here's the left's view.
00:11:02.780 I point to one article
00:11:04.140 just three weeks ago.
00:11:06.420 The Democrats
00:11:07.000 need to destroy
00:11:08.460 Clarence Thomas' reputation.
00:11:11.380 They'll never
00:11:11.880 successfully impeach him,
00:11:13.140 but so what?
00:11:14.420 Make him a metaphor
00:11:15.300 for every insidious thing
00:11:17.140 the far right
00:11:18.120 has done to this country.
00:11:20.160 That's what the left
00:11:21.100 is trying to do.
00:11:21.980 And I will tell you,
00:11:23.180 if you look at the next
00:11:24.000 poster board,
00:11:25.700 the left has repeatedly
00:11:27.960 attacked Clarence Thomas
00:11:29.400 with a racism.
00:11:31.500 This is a magazine cover
00:11:32.920 that showed Justice Scalia
00:11:34.220 every bit as conservative
00:11:35.780 as Clarence Thomas,
00:11:37.360 but he's portrayed
00:11:38.360 as the master
00:11:39.160 and Clarence Thomas
00:11:40.420 in a bigoted attack
00:11:41.840 is portrayed
00:11:43.300 as shining his shoes.
00:11:45.020 I'll show you another one
00:11:46.240 to give you a sense
00:11:47.600 of the racist vitriol
00:11:49.100 from the left. 0.55
00:11:50.080 Here's a racist caricature
00:11:51.400 of Clarence Thomas.
00:11:52.740 Lawn jockey
00:11:53.500 for the far right.
00:11:55.240 This is the bigoted contempt
00:11:57.100 the left has.
00:11:58.100 I'll show you another
00:11:58.920 magazine cover.
00:12:02.440 Offensively,
00:12:03.700 this is
00:12:04.880 how the left
00:12:06.380 views Clarence Thomas.
00:12:07.900 Now, it's important
00:12:08.540 for people at home
00:12:09.240 to understand
00:12:09.820 this is not about
00:12:10.900 judicial ethics.
00:12:11.660 You can take those down.
00:12:12.680 This is not about
00:12:13.340 judicial ethics.
00:12:14.680 This is not about
00:12:15.680 rules that should apply
00:12:16.700 to judges across the board.
00:12:17.920 We could have a reasonable
00:12:18.740 discussion about that.
00:12:19.720 This is about applying
00:12:21.980 a double standard
00:12:22.960 to Clarence Thomas
00:12:23.840 and only Clarence Thomas.
00:12:25.980 The attack
00:12:26.920 that my Democrat
00:12:28.040 colleagues breathlessly
00:12:29.260 repeat is that
00:12:30.060 Clarence Thomas
00:12:30.760 stayed at the vacation
00:12:32.320 home of a very close
00:12:33.600 friend of his,
00:12:34.260 a successful Texas
00:12:35.120 businessman,
00:12:36.100 flew on his plane
00:12:37.240 and went on his yacht.
00:12:38.560 Well, if that's the standard,
00:12:41.620 going and traveling
00:12:42.640 and being paid for
00:12:43.600 by others,
00:12:44.300 then guess what?
00:12:45.240 Just about every
00:12:46.060 Supreme Court justice
00:12:47.060 has done so
00:12:47.840 and done so
00:12:49.360 in much greater numbers.
00:12:51.580 Justice Thomas
00:12:52.160 was appointed in 1991
00:12:53.540 and the time since then,
00:12:55.020 he's taken 109
00:12:56.340 reported trips,
00:12:57.300 five international trips.
00:12:59.360 Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
00:13:00.540 was appointed in 1993,
00:13:02.260 two years later.
00:13:03.040 In the time she was
00:13:03.800 on the court,
00:13:04.300 she took 157 trips,
00:13:07.960 including 28
00:13:09.000 international trips.
00:13:11.220 Mr. Payne,
00:13:12.040 yes or no,
00:13:12.560 do you think
00:13:12.940 Ruth Bader Ginsburg
00:13:13.600 was corrupt?
00:13:15.100 No.
00:13:16.220 Nor do I.
00:13:18.140 Ruth Bader Ginsburg
00:13:19.120 was not alone.
00:13:20.160 Justice Stephen Breyer
00:13:21.280 appointed the year later
00:13:22.460 in 1994,
00:13:23.620 took 233 reported trips,
00:13:26.200 including 63
00:13:27.560 international trips.
00:13:29.100 Again,
00:13:29.380 yes or no,
00:13:29.840 Mr. Payne,
00:13:30.320 do you think
00:13:30.660 Stephen Breyer was corrupt?
00:13:32.660 No.
00:13:33.600 Nor do I.
00:13:34.660 I would point out
00:13:35.400 Justice Kagan
00:13:36.140 has done the same thing.
00:13:37.320 Justice Sotomayor
00:13:38.400 has done the same thing.
00:13:39.740 And yet,
00:13:40.080 none of my Democrat
00:13:40.940 colleagues care
00:13:42.340 because this is
00:13:43.960 a political attack
00:13:45.060 directed at a justice
00:13:47.020 they hate.
00:13:48.440 And by the way,
00:13:49.000 let's spend a moment
00:13:49.900 focusing on
00:13:51.340 Justice Stephen Breyer,
00:13:52.420 a delightful human being,
00:13:53.980 someone I know personally,
00:13:55.260 someone who served
00:13:55.840 decades on the court.
00:13:57.780 Justice Stephen Breyer
00:13:58.920 repeatedly
00:13:59.800 traveled on the penny
00:14:02.640 of a prominent
00:14:03.700 Democratic billionaire,
00:14:05.720 the Pritzker family.
00:14:07.640 Now,
00:14:07.840 J.B.
00:14:08.260 Pritzner
00:14:08.660 is the Democrat
00:14:10.660 governor of the state
00:14:11.720 of Illinois,
00:14:12.640 from which our chairman
00:14:13.620 hails.
00:14:14.140 I would be shocked
00:14:15.280 if the chairman
00:14:16.380 of this committee
00:14:17.020 has not had
00:14:17.660 multiple meals
00:14:18.640 with the Pritzker family.
00:14:21.740 Justice Breyer
00:14:22.600 was a longtime
00:14:23.300 member of the board
00:14:24.080 that awarded
00:14:24.540 the Pritzker
00:14:25.220 Architecture Prize.
00:14:26.200 Now,
00:14:26.320 what did that mean?
00:14:27.000 That meant
00:14:27.700 Justice Breyer
00:14:28.500 traveled
00:14:29.080 on the dime
00:14:30.780 of these
00:14:31.200 Democrat billionaires.
00:14:32.520 In 2019,
00:14:33.440 Justice Breyer
00:14:34.380 traveled to New York City,
00:14:35.520 to Vancouver,
00:14:36.160 and Paris.
00:14:36.980 In 2018,
00:14:38.960 Justice Breyer
00:14:39.940 traveled to Ireland
00:14:40.840 and Spain.
00:14:41.500 In 2016,
00:14:42.360 he traveled to New York,
00:14:43.380 Spain,
00:14:43.720 and France.
00:14:44.440 In 2013,
00:14:45.560 he traveled to Norway,
00:14:46.720 Sweden,
00:14:47.200 Denmark.
00:14:48.080 In 2012,
00:14:49.200 he traveled to Beijing
00:14:50.140 and to London.
00:14:51.880 All of this paid for
00:14:53.260 by the Pritzker Foundation.
00:14:54.440 Now,
00:14:54.760 none of my Democrat
00:14:55.520 colleagues are mad
00:14:56.360 about this,
00:14:56.840 and let me be clear.
00:14:58.100 I'm not suggesting
00:14:59.180 Justice Breyer
00:14:59.980 is corrupt. 0.80
00:15:00.880 What I'm suggesting 0.87
00:15:01.800 is this committee 0.89
00:15:03.180 is corrupt
00:15:03.800 because this is 0.99
00:15:04.640 a kangaroo circus, 0.87
00:15:06.080 and I will note
00:15:07.500 we had 15 Senate Democrats,
00:15:10.060 including six members
00:15:10.940 of this committee,
00:15:12.040 send a letter
00:15:12.480 to the Appropriations Committee
00:15:13.800 threatening
00:15:14.440 to cut off
00:15:15.720 the funding
00:15:16.400 for security
00:15:17.520 at the Supreme Court.
00:15:19.360 The left is willing
00:15:20.580 to threaten
00:15:21.400 the lives
00:15:22.320 of the justices.
00:15:23.460 Justice Samuel Alito
00:15:25.040 this weekend
00:15:25.700 in the Wall Street Journal
00:15:26.800 said that the attacks
00:15:28.100 directed at the justices
00:15:29.340 are making them
00:15:30.780 targets of assassination.
00:15:33.740 This is disgraceful.
00:15:36.780 Every senator
00:15:37.720 who signed this letter
00:15:38.820 should be embarrassed.
00:15:39.860 Mr. Chairman,
00:15:40.400 I ask unanimous consent
00:15:41.460 that this letter
00:15:42.120 be admitted into the record
00:15:43.580 and also that
00:15:44.380 the interview
00:15:45.640 with Justice Alito
00:15:46.540 from this weekend
00:15:47.540 be entered into the record.
00:15:49.680 Democrats can have
00:15:50.620 disagreements
00:15:51.200 based on law,
00:15:52.000 but this attempt
00:15:53.440 to delegitimize
00:15:54.240 the court,
00:15:54.940 this attempt
00:15:55.440 to personally smear
00:15:56.740 Clarence Thomas
00:15:57.700 is dishonest, 0.75
00:15:59.520 and everyone
00:16:00.280 in the media
00:16:00.780 echoing it
00:16:01.480 is participating
00:16:02.240 in a shameful
00:16:03.980 reprise
00:16:04.940 of 1991's
00:16:07.100 high-tech lynching.
00:16:08.780 Senator,
00:16:09.560 unbelievable,
00:16:10.900 by the way,
00:16:11.340 the way that you
00:16:11.840 laid it out
00:16:12.360 for everybody,
00:16:13.100 and I'm glad
00:16:13.560 that you were able
00:16:14.140 to do that,
00:16:15.100 but the media
00:16:15.840 hasn't stopped
00:16:16.580 since then.
00:16:17.040 They're still
00:16:17.720 coming after
00:16:18.680 Clarence Thomas
00:16:19.440 and his family
00:16:20.400 members.
00:16:21.700 Well,
00:16:21.840 that's exactly
00:16:22.440 right.
00:16:22.860 So what you
00:16:23.280 just played
00:16:23.820 was from
00:16:24.280 the Judiciary
00:16:24.840 Committee hearing
00:16:25.640 last week.
00:16:26.800 It was the hearing
00:16:27.920 on, quote,
00:16:28.480 judicial ethics,
00:16:29.380 and it was the
00:16:30.360 reason we released
00:16:31.400 the pod a day
00:16:32.740 early last week.
00:16:33.780 We normally do
00:16:34.520 Monday,
00:16:35.320 Wednesday,
00:16:35.540 and Friday.
00:16:36.300 Last week,
00:16:36.820 we did Monday,
00:16:37.600 Tuesday,
00:16:37.820 and Friday
00:16:38.420 because we wanted
00:16:39.860 last Tuesday's pod
00:16:41.380 to be out
00:16:41.880 before the hearing
00:16:43.060 in Judiciary.
00:16:44.740 That pod provided
00:16:46.140 in great detail
00:16:47.480 some of the
00:16:48.040 background on
00:16:48.620 Clarence Thomas
00:16:49.180 as to why the
00:16:50.180 charges weren't
00:16:50.900 accurate,
00:16:51.980 and I've got to
00:16:52.620 say it really
00:16:53.140 was striking
00:16:53.780 because the
00:16:55.560 hearing did not
00:16:56.460 go the way
00:16:56.980 the Democrats
00:16:57.460 wanted,
00:16:58.080 and by the end
00:16:58.840 of it,
00:16:59.080 the Democrat
00:16:59.480 senators had
00:17:00.140 fled the room.
00:17:00.880 They realized 0.97
00:17:01.640 their hypocrisy 0.89
00:17:03.120 had come out, 0.92
00:17:04.000 and they wanted
00:17:05.140 it to be just
00:17:06.000 a slugfest
00:17:06.800 beating up on
00:17:07.580 Justice Thomas,
00:17:09.200 and it didn't
00:17:10.060 play out that way
00:17:10.860 because they have
00:17:11.500 no defense.
00:17:12.140 They have no
00:17:12.480 response.
00:17:13.160 It's not like
00:17:13.700 they can say,
00:17:14.900 oh, well,
00:17:15.720 Justice Breyer
00:17:16.760 flying on
00:17:18.120 lavish trips
00:17:19.240 to Europe
00:17:20.300 paid for
00:17:20.880 by Democrat
00:17:21.500 billionaires.
00:17:22.160 That's very
00:17:22.780 different.
00:17:23.120 They literally
00:17:24.520 just ignore
00:17:25.140 the point.
00:17:27.740 What's happened
00:17:28.480 since then?
00:17:29.260 Well, what's
00:17:29.620 happened since
00:17:30.180 then is the
00:17:30.760 drip, drip,
00:17:31.540 drip of
00:17:32.760 attacks,
00:17:33.600 and we talked
00:17:34.360 about this
00:17:34.820 before in
00:17:35.460 last Tuesday's
00:17:36.360 pod.
00:17:37.300 This is an
00:17:38.180 organized political
00:17:39.300 attack.
00:17:39.820 This is just
00:17:40.300 like if you're
00:17:41.280 running a campaign
00:17:43.080 for governor
00:17:43.780 or senator
00:17:44.260 or president,
00:17:44.820 and the other
00:17:45.180 side has an
00:17:45.700 OPPO research
00:17:46.300 department,
00:17:47.180 they're putting
00:17:47.980 out a daily
00:17:48.580 attack, and
00:17:49.180 they are running
00:17:49.700 a campaign
00:17:50.280 against Clarence
00:17:50.980 Thomas.
00:17:52.060 And to be
00:17:52.880 clear, let's
00:17:54.080 be very clear
00:17:54.860 what their
00:17:55.460 objective is.
00:17:57.220 Their objective
00:17:58.280 is to destroy
00:17:59.700 Justice Thomas.
00:18:00.680 Let me read you a
00:18:01.660 little bit from
00:18:02.200 an opinion column
00:18:03.140 May 4th in the
00:18:04.620 Washington Post
00:18:05.460 by Ruth Marcus,
00:18:07.020 the associate editor.
00:18:08.060 The title is
00:18:09.580 Clarence Thomas
00:18:10.720 should get out
00:18:11.340 his checkbook
00:18:12.000 and reimburse
00:18:13.420 Harlan Crowe.
00:18:14.920 The opening
00:18:15.700 line of it is
00:18:16.520 the Clarence
00:18:17.420 Thomas story
00:18:18.080 has now entered
00:18:19.040 the Abe Fortas
00:18:20.300 danger zone.
00:18:21.700 Now who is
00:18:22.060 Abe Fortas?
00:18:22.640 Abe Fortas is
00:18:23.340 a Supreme Court
00:18:23.900 justice who resigned
00:18:25.080 in disgrace
00:18:25.840 because of
00:18:26.740 corruption.
00:18:27.860 That's what the
00:18:28.740 left wants,
00:18:29.740 and that's the
00:18:30.680 analogy we're
00:18:31.880 hearing lots and
00:18:32.600 lots of people
00:18:33.140 tell the story
00:18:33.820 of Abe Fortas.
00:18:34.640 Why?
00:18:34.920 The left has
00:18:35.600 convinced themselves
00:18:36.620 if they can
00:18:38.240 relentlessly drag 0.72
00:18:39.480 Justice Thomas
00:18:40.200 through the mud,
00:18:41.180 at some point
00:18:42.540 he'll surrender
00:18:43.220 and go away, 0.97
00:18:44.700 and they can
00:18:45.680 replace one of
00:18:46.600 the greatest
00:18:46.960 constitutionalists
00:18:47.840 ever with a
00:18:48.580 left-wing activist
00:18:49.700 who will
00:18:50.760 undermine the
00:18:52.980 Constitution
00:18:53.680 and implement
00:18:55.560 and force
00:18:56.660 the left's
00:18:57.500 radical agenda
00:18:58.360 on the American
00:18:59.020 people.
00:19:00.060 That's what
00:19:00.620 they're trying to
00:19:01.160 do.
00:19:01.320 By the way,
00:19:01.760 you know,
00:19:01.900 it's very
00:19:02.200 interesting.
00:19:03.360 The Post
00:19:03.800 says Clarence
00:19:04.420 Thomas should
00:19:04.900 reimburse
00:19:05.360 Harlan Crowe.
00:19:06.780 You know
00:19:07.040 what they
00:19:07.260 didn't say?
00:19:08.400 They didn't
00:19:09.180 say Stephen
00:19:09.760 Breyer should
00:19:10.420 reimburse the
00:19:11.040 Pritzkers.
00:19:12.140 They didn't
00:19:12.580 say Ruth
00:19:13.040 Bader Ginsburg
00:19:13.640 should reimburse
00:19:14.340 everyone who
00:19:14.980 paid for her
00:19:15.520 trips.
00:19:16.260 They didn't
00:19:16.660 say Sonia
00:19:17.360 Sotomayor should
00:19:18.220 reimburse everyone
00:19:19.000 who paid for
00:19:19.440 her trips.
00:19:20.160 They didn't
00:19:20.540 say Elena
00:19:20.980 Kagan should 0.86
00:19:21.540 reimburse everyone
00:19:22.200 who paid for
00:19:22.660 her trips.
00:19:23.560 This is
00:19:24.200 designed to
00:19:25.260 be a very
00:19:25.780 deliberate
00:19:26.500 attack going
00:19:28.240 directly
00:19:29.280 at
00:19:31.840 Clarence
00:19:34.180 Thomas.
00:19:36.060 And so
00:19:36.560 now they've
00:19:37.080 launched yet
00:19:37.660 another attack
00:19:38.460 and the
00:19:38.920 latest attack
00:19:39.740 which they
00:19:40.240 saved until
00:19:40.980 after the
00:19:41.520 hearing so
00:19:42.140 that there
00:19:43.300 would not
00:19:43.620 be a forum
00:19:44.200 to provide
00:19:44.760 the response
00:19:45.340 to it is
00:19:46.720 that this
00:19:47.640 same
00:19:48.600 Texan,
00:19:50.600 Harlan
00:19:50.860 Crowe,
00:19:52.060 also paid
00:19:52.980 thousands of
00:19:54.020 dollars of
00:19:54.640 tuition payments
00:19:55.640 and this is
00:19:56.380 now what has
00:19:56.980 the left
00:19:57.420 clutching their
00:19:58.520 pearls.
00:19:58.860 Now let's
00:20:00.420 talk about
00:20:00.980 the facts.
00:20:03.100 So Clarence
00:20:03.960 Thomas and
00:20:04.440 his wife
00:20:04.780 Jenny spent
00:20:06.700 12 years
00:20:07.940 helping not
00:20:09.260 their son,
00:20:11.160 not their
00:20:13.220 brother,
00:20:13.980 but rather
00:20:14.720 their great
00:20:15.740 nephew,
00:20:17.660 an individual
00:20:18.060 named Mark
00:20:19.360 Martin,
00:20:20.520 who was in
00:20:21.720 trouble.
00:20:22.120 He was in
00:20:22.400 real need and
00:20:23.360 Clarence Thomas
00:20:24.080 and Jenny
00:20:24.460 Thomas stepped
00:20:25.740 forward heroically
00:20:26.900 to raise
00:20:28.460 their great
00:20:28.980 nephew and
00:20:29.500 to raise
00:20:29.980 him and
00:20:30.200 to take
00:20:30.500 care of
00:20:30.900 him.
00:20:31.920 And this
00:20:33.440 is what
00:20:33.940 the left
00:20:34.520 is targeting
00:20:35.120 is that for
00:20:36.000 a period of
00:20:36.520 time Harlan
00:20:37.080 Crowe paid 0.64
00:20:38.340 tuition payments
00:20:39.260 to the
00:20:39.620 schools where
00:20:40.840 Thomas'
00:20:42.240 great nephew
00:20:42.960 was attending.
00:20:45.100 Now I
00:20:46.060 want to go
00:20:46.460 back.
00:20:48.160 Tuesday's
00:20:48.600 podcast we
00:20:49.280 interviewed
00:20:49.660 Mark
00:20:49.980 Paoletta who
00:20:51.300 has been
00:20:51.660 doing just
00:20:52.180 such an
00:20:52.580 incredible job
00:20:53.420 defending
00:20:53.960 Justice
00:20:54.420 Thomas and
00:20:54.940 putting the
00:20:55.280 facts out.
00:20:55.800 And I
00:20:56.940 want to
00:20:57.380 do a
00:20:58.100 little bit
00:20:58.420 of an
00:20:58.640 in-depth
00:20:59.020 examination
00:20:59.600 of the
00:21:00.260 statement
00:21:00.580 Mark
00:21:00.880 Paoletta
00:21:01.180 put out
00:21:01.760 on this
00:21:02.920 attack on
00:21:04.040 the tuition
00:21:04.440 payments because
00:21:04.980 it's important
00:21:05.500 to understand.
00:21:06.440 So I'm
00:21:06.880 reading from
00:21:07.520 the statement
00:21:07.980 of Mark
00:21:08.340 Paoletta,
00:21:08.820 friend of
00:21:09.180 Justice
00:21:09.460 Thomas.
00:21:10.020 Quote,
00:21:10.840 the Thomases
00:21:12.300 have rarely
00:21:12.800 spoken publicly
00:21:13.720 about the
00:21:14.960 remarkably generous
00:21:15.900 efforts to
00:21:17.240 help a
00:21:17.700 child in
00:21:18.180 need.
00:21:19.160 They have
00:21:19.460 always respected
00:21:20.120 the privacy
00:21:20.660 of this young
00:21:21.260 man and his
00:21:21.720 family.
00:21:22.580 It is
00:21:23.200 disappointing
00:21:23.700 and painful
00:21:24.360 but unsurprising
00:21:25.540 that some
00:21:26.120 journalists and
00:21:26.800 critics cannot
00:21:27.960 do the
00:21:28.400 same.
00:21:29.780 The
00:21:29.940 Thomases,
00:21:31.240 quietly and
00:21:32.400 honorably,
00:21:33.840 devoted 12
00:21:34.640 years of their
00:21:35.260 lives to
00:21:35.860 helping a
00:21:36.380 beloved child
00:21:37.200 in desperate
00:21:37.800 need of
00:21:38.280 love,
00:21:39.160 support,
00:21:40.000 and guidance.
00:21:41.420 In 1997,
00:21:43.400 Justice Thomas
00:21:44.000 and his wife
00:21:44.680 brought their
00:21:45.720 great-nephew
00:21:46.380 to live with
00:21:47.220 them.
00:21:48.140 They agreed to
00:21:49.140 take in this
00:21:49.740 young child,
00:21:51.140 much as
00:21:51.680 Justice Thomas'
00:21:52.360 grandparents had
00:21:53.360 done for him
00:21:53.900 and his
00:21:54.120 brother in
00:21:54.940 1955.
00:21:57.140 Justice Thomas'
00:21:57.980 grandparents
00:21:58.500 changed the
00:21:59.360 trajectory of
00:22:00.000 his life,
00:22:01.060 and the
00:22:01.420 Thomases hoped
00:22:02.120 to do the
00:22:02.580 same for a
00:22:03.720 child in
00:22:04.160 need.
00:22:05.960 Justice Thomas
00:22:06.820 and his
00:22:07.140 wife made 0.97
00:22:07.680 immeasurable
00:22:08.300 personal and
00:22:09.620 financial sacrifices
00:22:10.840 and poured
00:22:12.120 every ounce of
00:22:12.760 their lives and
00:22:13.420 hearts into
00:22:13.900 giving their
00:22:14.360 great-nephew a
00:22:15.080 chance to
00:22:15.560 succeed.
00:22:16.800 In the
00:22:17.460 summer of
00:22:17.880 2006,
00:22:19.580 the Thomases
00:22:20.060 were struggling
00:22:20.700 to find a
00:22:21.260 school where
00:22:21.740 they could send
00:22:22.240 their great-nephew.
00:22:24.140 In discussing
00:22:24.880 these challenges
00:22:25.740 with their
00:22:26.220 dear friends,
00:22:27.320 Harlan and
00:22:27.700 Kathy Groh,
00:22:29.200 Harlan recommended
00:22:30.180 that the
00:22:30.540 Thomases consider
00:22:31.420 one more option,
00:22:33.220 sending their
00:22:33.700 great-nephew
00:22:34.340 to Randolph-Macon
00:22:35.700 Academy.
00:22:37.340 Harlan had
00:22:38.180 attended Randolph-Macon
00:22:39.260 and he thought
00:22:40.440 the school would
00:22:41.060 be a good fit.
00:22:42.980 Harlan had
00:22:43.480 financially supported
00:22:44.500 Randolph-Macon
00:22:45.220 since the 1980s
00:22:46.460 and had funded
00:22:47.740 scholarships for
00:22:49.180 students from
00:22:49.840 disadvantaged
00:22:50.420 backgrounds.
00:22:51.000 Harlan offered
00:22:53.520 to pay the
00:22:54.160 first year of
00:22:54.940 Justice Thomas'
00:22:55.860 great-nephew's
00:22:56.580 tuition in
00:22:57.720 2006, and
00:22:59.540 that payment
00:23:00.100 went directly
00:23:00.920 to the school.
00:23:02.380 Harlan Crowe's
00:23:03.000 office confirmed
00:23:03.820 that he did
00:23:04.780 not pay the
00:23:05.460 great-nephew's
00:23:06.160 tuition for
00:23:06.740 any other year
00:23:07.460 at Randolph-Macon.
00:23:09.500 After some
00:23:10.340 time, Randolph-Macon
00:23:12.120 recommended the
00:23:12.920 great-nephew
00:23:13.520 attend a boarding
00:23:14.400 school in
00:23:14.940 Georgia for
00:23:15.460 one year.
00:23:16.980 Harlan offered
00:23:17.560 to pay the
00:23:18.080 first year of
00:23:18.660 tuition for
00:23:19.680 their great-nephew
00:23:20.420 at the Georgia
00:23:20.960 school, and
00:23:22.060 again, those
00:23:23.400 tuition payments
00:23:24.180 went directly
00:23:24.840 to the school.
00:23:26.500 By the next
00:23:27.080 year, by the
00:23:28.280 next school
00:23:28.680 year, 2009,
00:23:30.500 the Thomas'
00:23:31.120 great-nephew
00:23:31.720 returned to
00:23:32.420 Randolph-Macon.
00:23:33.740 He moved
00:23:34.140 back to
00:23:34.560 Savannah in
00:23:35.080 December 2009
00:23:36.280 after he
00:23:37.440 turned 18.
00:23:39.000 The Thomas'
00:23:40.100 love their
00:23:41.320 great-nephew.
00:23:42.520 It is
00:23:43.000 despicable that
00:23:43.740 the press has
00:23:44.320 dragged him
00:23:44.780 into their
00:23:45.180 effort to
00:23:45.720 smear Justice
00:23:46.440 Thomas.
00:23:46.780 This story
00:23:48.500 is another
00:23:48.900 attempt to
00:23:49.460 manufacture a
00:23:50.220 scandal about
00:23:50.840 Justice Thomas.
00:23:52.240 But let's be
00:23:53.040 clear about what
00:23:54.200 is supposedly
00:23:54.900 scandalous now.
00:23:56.780 Justice Thomas
00:23:57.420 and his wife
00:23:58.040 devoted 12
00:23:58.800 years of their
00:23:59.380 life to
00:24:00.360 taking in and
00:24:01.220 caring for a
00:24:01.980 beloved child
00:24:02.840 who was not
00:24:04.100 their own,
00:24:05.540 just as Justice
00:24:06.320 Thomas'
00:24:06.860 grandparents had
00:24:07.640 done for him.
00:24:08.800 They made many
00:24:09.820 personal and
00:24:10.480 financial sacrifices
00:24:11.520 to do this,
00:24:12.640 and along the
00:24:13.540 way, their
00:24:14.600 friends joined
00:24:15.240 them, and
00:24:16.000 doing everything
00:24:16.580 possible to
00:24:17.340 give this
00:24:17.720 child a
00:24:18.140 future.
00:24:19.440 Harlan Crowe's
00:24:20.100 tuition payments
00:24:20.880 made directly to
00:24:21.780 these schools on
00:24:22.520 behalf of
00:24:23.540 Justice Thomas'
00:24:24.320 great-nephew
00:24:25.000 did not
00:24:26.420 constitute a
00:24:27.480 reportable
00:24:28.060 gift.
00:24:28.560 Now, this is
00:24:28.980 where it's
00:24:29.280 getting into
00:24:29.680 the specific
00:24:30.180 legal charge,
00:24:31.300 because the
00:24:31.740 left is
00:24:32.140 claiming,
00:24:32.820 aha, you
00:24:33.560 did not
00:24:34.000 report this.
00:24:35.760 So listen to
00:24:36.520 the clear legal
00:24:37.400 analysis.
00:24:38.900 Justice Thomas
00:24:39.620 was not
00:24:40.840 required to
00:24:41.580 disclose the
00:24:42.240 tuition payments
00:24:43.080 made directly to
00:24:44.040 Randolph-Macon
00:24:44.720 and the
00:24:45.040 Georgia School
00:24:45.780 on behalf of
00:24:47.340 his great-nephew
00:24:48.180 because the
00:24:50.340 definition of
00:24:51.360 a, quote,
00:24:52.020 dependent child
00:24:53.460 under the
00:24:55.140 Ethics and
00:24:55.720 Government Act,
00:24:56.560 which is 5
00:24:57.140 U.S.C.
00:24:58.240 13101,
00:24:59.500 Section 2,
00:25:00.700 does not
00:25:01.520 include a
00:25:02.900 great-nephew.
00:25:04.440 It is
00:25:05.360 limited to
00:25:06.240 a, quote,
00:25:07.540 son,
00:25:09.060 daughter,
00:25:10.260 stepson,
00:25:11.360 or stepdaughter.
00:25:12.260 Justice
00:25:13.700 Thomas never
00:25:14.420 asked Harlan
00:25:15.080 Crow to
00:25:15.480 pay for
00:25:15.880 his great-nephew's
00:25:16.660 tuition,
00:25:18.020 and neither
00:25:18.380 Harlan Crow
00:25:19.080 nor his
00:25:19.540 company had
00:25:20.760 any business
00:25:21.340 before the
00:25:21.860 Supreme Court.
00:25:23.320 This malicious
00:25:24.220 story shows
00:25:25.140 nothing except
00:25:25.840 for the fact
00:25:26.360 that the
00:25:26.680 Thomases and
00:25:27.280 the Crows
00:25:27.720 are kind,
00:25:28.980 generous,
00:25:29.460 and loving
00:25:29.840 people who
00:25:31.160 tried to
00:25:31.640 help this
00:25:32.080 young man.
00:25:33.240 Now, there
00:25:34.240 are two
00:25:34.500 really important
00:25:35.100 things in there,
00:25:35.740 Ben.
00:25:36.440 One is the
00:25:37.120 personal story,
00:25:38.080 a story of
00:25:39.200 generosity,
00:25:39.800 a story of
00:25:40.740 caring for
00:25:41.480 a child in
00:25:42.220 need,
00:25:42.920 a child who
00:25:43.560 was not
00:25:43.980 their
00:25:44.240 responsibility,
00:25:45.060 was not
00:25:45.320 their child,
00:25:45.960 but they
00:25:46.280 stepped forward
00:25:46.960 for a dozen
00:25:47.580 years to
00:25:48.180 help their
00:25:48.580 great-nephew.
00:25:50.040 But secondly,
00:25:51.440 the whole
00:25:52.020 legal hook
00:25:52.740 is they
00:25:53.060 say,
00:25:53.380 well,
00:25:53.520 gosh,
00:25:54.960 Justice
00:25:55.280 Thomas should
00:25:55.920 have reported
00:25:56.420 this on his
00:25:57.020 financial disclosure.
00:25:58.540 The law is
00:25:59.500 clear.
00:26:00.500 You have to
00:26:01.460 disclose a
00:26:02.440 payment made
00:26:04.600 for a
00:26:05.500 dependent child,
00:26:06.920 and the
00:26:07.280 statute,
00:26:07.880 I want to
00:26:08.800 read this
00:26:09.880 again.
00:26:10.360 The statute
00:26:10.880 defines a
00:26:11.600 dependent
00:26:11.900 child as
00:26:12.760 quote,
00:26:13.840 the term
00:26:14.280 dependent
00:26:14.640 child means
00:26:15.520 when used
00:26:16.880 with respect
00:26:17.480 to any
00:26:18.020 reporting
00:26:18.500 individual,
00:26:19.880 any individual
00:26:20.700 who is a
00:26:21.340 son,
00:26:22.060 daughter,
00:26:23.180 stepson,
00:26:24.100 or stepdaughter.
00:26:25.640 By the way,
00:26:26.900 that same
00:26:27.640 definition doesn't
00:26:28.480 just apply to
00:26:29.100 judges,
00:26:29.740 it applies a
00:26:30.400 lot of other
00:26:30.800 places,
00:26:31.400 including to
00:26:32.140 Congress.
00:26:33.420 Do you know
00:26:34.080 right now
00:26:34.780 that if you,
00:26:36.080 Ben Ferguson,
00:26:36.800 decided you
00:26:37.460 wanted to
00:26:37.840 give a
00:26:38.120 million
00:26:38.500 dollars to
00:26:39.960 the great
00:26:40.500 nephew of
00:26:41.180 Chuck
00:26:41.440 Schumer,
00:26:42.700 Chuck Schumer
00:26:44.060 would not
00:26:44.460 have to
00:26:44.740 report that
00:26:45.300 because the
00:26:46.580 reporting
00:26:47.040 requirements do
00:26:47.940 not extend
00:26:48.540 to great
00:26:48.920 nephews.
00:26:49.460 Now,
00:26:49.720 I don't
00:26:50.460 know if
00:26:50.800 Schumer has
00:26:51.400 a great
00:26:51.820 nephew,
00:26:52.340 and I
00:26:52.660 wouldn't
00:26:52.900 advise giving
00:26:53.480 him a
00:26:53.700 million bucks
00:26:54.220 if he
00:26:54.580 does.
00:26:55.280 Yeah,
00:26:55.960 but the
00:26:56.520 principle is
00:26:57.100 very clear,
00:26:57.660 and the
00:26:58.000 rule is
00:26:58.360 very clear.
00:26:59.460 The rule,
00:27:00.060 it is
00:27:00.700 defined by
00:27:01.800 statute,
00:27:03.020 and in
00:27:04.000 this instance,
00:27:04.800 you've got
00:27:05.100 Harlan Crowe
00:27:05.780 has,
00:27:06.300 with Randolph
00:27:07.020 Macon,
00:27:07.400 has supported
00:27:07.820 the school
00:27:08.220 for years,
00:27:08.800 has paid
00:27:09.120 for scholarships
00:27:09.780 for years.
00:27:10.800 He knew
00:27:11.480 of a
00:27:12.760 child in
00:27:14.100 need who
00:27:14.620 could benefit
00:27:15.100 from the
00:27:15.540 school,
00:27:15.880 and he's
00:27:16.880 being painted
00:27:17.580 as a
00:27:18.500 villain for
00:27:19.980 caring for
00:27:21.300 a child
00:27:24.020 in need.
00:27:25.640 And this
00:27:26.460 was obviously
00:27:27.160 a pre-planned
00:27:28.720 orchestrated
00:27:29.560 smear campaign,
00:27:30.760 and they're
00:27:32.080 going after
00:27:32.780 Clarence Thomas.
00:27:33.520 I also
00:27:34.300 think there
00:27:34.800 are significant
00:27:35.520 racial undertones
00:27:36.540 here.
00:27:37.360 They've been
00:27:37.960 doing this,
00:27:38.700 you mentioned
00:27:39.260 this,
00:27:39.640 and what you
00:27:40.060 said,
00:27:40.360 and what we
00:27:40.640 played earlier,
00:27:41.720 but the
00:27:42.300 racial side
00:27:43.360 of this, 0.94
00:27:43.860 they hate
00:27:44.480 Clarence Thomas,
00:27:46.020 I think,
00:27:47.140 honestly,
00:27:47.720 because he's
00:27:48.660 an African-American
00:27:49.620 man,
00:27:50.700 who has not
00:27:51.680 gone to the
00:27:52.340 woke left,
00:27:53.560 and therefore
00:27:54.340 he's such a
00:27:55.060 big threat,
00:27:56.180 they want to
00:27:56.780 be done with
00:27:57.220 him for that
00:27:57.800 reason as
00:27:58.340 well.
00:27:58.680 It is
00:28:00.600 a qualitatively
00:28:01.760 different and
00:28:02.980 double standard.
00:28:04.280 Antonin Scalia
00:28:05.060 was incredibly
00:28:06.160 conservative,
00:28:06.980 and yet the
00:28:07.480 left didn't
00:28:08.200 loathe him.
00:28:09.460 William Rehnquist,
00:28:10.520 my former
00:28:11.300 boss,
00:28:11.760 was incredibly
00:28:12.520 conservative,
00:28:13.320 and yet the
00:28:13.980 left didn't
00:28:14.680 loathe him
00:28:15.520 the same way
00:28:17.380 that there is
00:28:18.220 a unique
00:28:18.940 vitriol that
00:28:20.920 gets piled on
00:28:22.160 Clarence Thomas.
00:28:23.100 In the left's
00:28:23.720 view, he is
00:28:25.160 not a black 1.00
00:28:25.640 man. 0.96
00:28:26.340 He doesn't
00:28:26.800 qualify as a 0.94
00:28:27.640 black man.
00:28:28.100 By the way,
00:28:28.640 in the left's
00:28:29.120 view, I'm
00:28:30.100 not Hispanic.
00:28:30.900 If you're
00:28:31.160 not a leftist,
00:28:31.900 you don't
00:28:32.180 get to be
00:28:32.600 Hispanic.
00:28:33.240 Look, we
00:28:34.440 did an earlier
00:28:35.200 podcast where
00:28:36.280 Don Lemon,
00:28:37.460 before he got
00:28:37.960 fired for 1.00
00:28:38.620 saying idiotic 1.00
00:28:39.380 things like 1.00
00:28:39.860 this, described
00:28:41.520 how Nikki
00:28:42.380 Haley was
00:28:43.000 past her
00:28:43.500 prime, and
00:28:44.060 he gave
00:28:44.560 nasty 0.97
00:28:45.960 misogynistic 0.97
00:28:46.840 statements about
00:28:48.120 a woman is 1.00
00:28:48.680 in her prime
00:28:49.240 in her 20s
00:28:49.860 or 30s,
00:28:50.520 which is 1.00
00:28:51.020 idiotic. 1.00
00:28:52.940 But in a 1.00
00:28:55.420 certain leftist
00:28:56.400 logic, it
00:28:57.120 made sense.
00:28:58.100 Because to
00:28:59.400 the hard
00:28:59.820 left, Nikki
00:29:01.300 Haley is
00:29:01.840 not a
00:29:02.180 woman.
00:29:02.780 You don't
00:29:03.280 count in
00:29:04.580 whatever category
00:29:05.480 you are,
00:29:06.240 whether it's
00:29:06.640 African-American
00:29:07.320 or Hispanic 0.77
00:29:08.080 or woman.
00:29:08.860 The left's
00:29:09.420 view is they
00:29:10.960 own you if
00:29:12.080 you're in
00:29:12.380 any one of
00:29:12.780 those categories,
00:29:13.540 and if you
00:29:14.240 dare disagree
00:29:15.320 from their
00:29:16.680 ideology, you
00:29:18.420 have lost
00:29:19.400 any right to
00:29:21.420 fall within
00:29:21.980 that category.
00:29:22.820 And so my
00:29:24.800 dad, who
00:29:25.420 came as a
00:29:26.300 penniless
00:29:27.000 immigrant from
00:29:27.600 Cuba, not
00:29:28.180 speaking English,
00:29:29.280 nope, not
00:29:29.860 Hispanic, doesn't 1.00
00:29:30.680 count.
00:29:32.120 That's their
00:29:32.880 view.
00:29:33.500 And Clarence
00:29:34.240 Thomas, I
00:29:36.220 don't know that
00:29:37.060 there is an
00:29:37.560 individual more
00:29:38.840 despised by the
00:29:40.440 left than Clarence
00:29:41.300 Thomas.
00:29:41.720 Donald Trump is
00:29:42.340 close, and it's a
00:29:43.640 different sort of
00:29:44.420 hatred, but they
00:29:46.280 might well be
00:29:46.900 running neck and
00:29:47.480 neck.
00:29:48.540 Yeah, lastly
00:29:49.300 on this, do you
00:29:50.540 believe they're
00:29:51.160 going to finally
00:29:52.200 at least hit the
00:29:53.600 pause button and
00:29:54.420 put this to bed, or
00:29:55.300 do you expect there
00:29:56.020 to be more attacks
00:29:56.920 in the coming
00:29:57.600 weeks?
00:29:58.320 More, more, more.
00:29:59.640 It is drip, drip,
00:30:00.940 drip.
00:30:01.300 It is funded.
00:30:02.140 I don't know who's
00:30:02.680 funding it, but
00:30:03.800 someone is putting
00:30:04.700 serious dollars
00:30:05.880 behind this attack.
00:30:07.140 This is a
00:30:08.080 political campaign.
00:30:09.320 It's, listen, you
00:30:10.560 got to stand up and
00:30:11.420 defend Justice
00:30:12.100 Thomas because he
00:30:12.960 can't.
00:30:14.200 Justices have no
00:30:15.220 ability, they
00:30:17.000 don't know.
00:30:17.740 how to fight PR
00:30:18.600 fights, they don't
00:30:19.280 have a press
00:30:20.120 secretary, they
00:30:20.780 don't have staff
00:30:21.440 to do it.
00:30:22.140 They're literally
00:30:22.720 just sitting there
00:30:23.580 like a piñata 0.91
00:30:24.400 getting whacked, and
00:30:26.080 the people whacking
00:30:27.120 the piñata are the
00:30:28.700 Democrats, are the
00:30:30.100 media, and all of
00:30:31.880 their cheerleaders, and
00:30:33.460 so it's got to be the
00:30:34.560 rest of us providing
00:30:35.560 the truth and the
00:30:36.640 facts to
00:30:37.180 counterbalance this
00:30:38.860 very coordinated and
00:30:40.720 very well-funded
00:30:41.460 attack.
00:30:42.460 Yeah, no doubt
00:30:43.080 about that.
00:30:44.020 Senator, I want to
00:30:44.640 also talk about
00:30:45.680 what's happening,
00:30:46.740 title, uh,
00:30:47.480 an important
00:30:48.620 statue is going
00:30:49.700 to expire at
00:30:51.580 the border.
00:30:52.140 We're now hearing
00:30:52.700 that we're going
00:30:53.580 to have an
00:30:54.640 incredible onslaught
00:30:55.660 of illegal immigrants 0.94
00:30:56.380 coming across the
00:30:57.280 border.
00:30:57.600 The National Guard,
00:30:58.460 which is something
00:30:58.860 that the Democrats
00:30:59.560 said they didn't
00:31:00.300 want to happen and
00:31:01.260 said it was
00:31:01.560 inhumane and racist
00:31:03.720 to send National
00:31:04.640 Guardsmen now to
00:31:05.540 the border.
00:31:05.980 That's exactly what
00:31:06.760 this White House is
00:31:07.500 doing.
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00:33:14.860 Senator, let's transition
00:33:16.340 quickly to the border.
00:33:19.000 This has become a big
00:33:21.040 issue with Title 42.
00:33:23.200 Some of the latest
00:33:23.980 statistics that have come
00:33:24.960 out have been brutal for
00:33:26.880 this administration when it
00:33:28.800 comes to Title 42.
00:33:29.740 almost 55,000 Border Patrol
00:33:32.400 apprehensions, 18,600 plus
00:33:35.600 known gotaways in a single
00:33:37.580 week at the border.
00:33:38.980 There are some of the
00:33:39.700 highest weekly totals that
00:33:41.140 we've ever seen, and Title
00:33:42.480 42 hasn't even dropped yet.
00:33:45.020 These are stunning numbers,
00:33:46.380 especially how many gotaways
00:33:49.200 there were in just a single
00:33:50.820 week.
00:33:51.780 You had agents that were
00:33:53.160 assaulted.
00:33:54.180 You had 54,951 apprehensions,
00:33:57.780 20,000 basically gotaways,
00:33:59.740 $714,000 seized, 101 pounds
00:34:03.400 of cocaine, 1,050 pounds of
00:34:06.140 marijuana, 2,721 pounds of
00:34:10.860 meth, 138 pounds of
00:34:13.820 fentanyl, 16 firearms, six
00:34:15.920 sex offenders in the group
00:34:17.700 that we did catch in one
00:34:18.680 week, seven gang members,
00:34:21.500 and that's what happened at
00:34:22.780 the border in one week.
00:34:24.560 And yet, this administration
00:34:26.460 continues to tell the lie that
00:34:27.800 the border is secure.
00:34:29.140 It's not.
00:34:31.200 You're exactly right, and the
00:34:33.400 stunning thing is, it's fixing
00:34:35.520 to get worse.
00:34:36.960 We have the worst illegal
00:34:38.040 immigration in the history of
00:34:39.520 our nation.
00:34:40.460 Six and a half million people
00:34:41.720 have crossed illegally under
00:34:43.380 Joe Biden.
00:34:44.120 All of that is a direct
00:34:45.240 political decision Joe Biden
00:34:46.960 and Kamala Harris made, and it
00:34:49.020 is about to get worse.
00:34:50.100 On Thursday of this week, May
00:34:51.880 11th, the administration is
00:34:54.860 going to lose the authority to
00:34:56.720 deport people under Title 42.
00:34:58.440 Title 42 was essentially the
00:35:00.460 only legal basis under which
00:35:02.020 they were deporting anyone, so
00:35:03.260 now it is truly going to be
00:35:05.440 Katie bar the door. 1.00
00:35:06.460 Anyone who crosses, guess what? 0.97
00:35:08.020 Joe Biden is your travel agent.
00:35:10.440 Pick a city and come on in, and
00:35:12.820 you know what?
00:35:13.580 It is so bad that even the
00:35:16.700 corrupt corporate media is
00:35:18.740 forced to acknowledge it.
00:35:20.640 Listen to Face the Nation
00:35:23.380 describing the crisis that Joe
00:35:26.100 Biden has created and what's
00:35:27.760 going to happen when Title 42 is
00:35:30.040 lifted.
00:35:31.000 Listen.
00:35:31.220 Margaret, the clock is ticking
00:35:34.460 down on an end to Title 42,
00:35:36.740 another flashpoint in the
00:35:38.080 immigration debate, but here on
00:35:39.720 the U.S.-Mexico border, it's not
00:35:41.800 just a policy change, it's the
00:35:43.560 front lines of a humanitarian
00:35:44.880 crisis.
00:35:46.520 In South Texas, the Department of
00:35:48.580 Homeland Security says they've
00:35:50.040 encountered an influx of migrants
00:35:51.920 ahead of Title 42's end, driven
00:35:54.660 by an uptick in Venezuelan
00:35:56.460 nationals.
00:35:57.720 Still, others wait in Mexico,
00:35:59.380 camped along the Rio Grande
00:36:01.020 River.
00:36:02.160 New Biden administration
00:36:03.440 guidelines that kick in after
00:36:05.260 May 11th promise more
00:36:06.640 consequences, like a one-way
00:36:08.740 ticket on ice air.
00:36:10.720 We watched as 133 migrants, 1.00
00:36:13.600 hands and feet shackled, boarded
00:36:15.480 a plane back to Guatemala
00:36:16.860 Friday.
00:36:18.320 In Laredo, Texas, this
00:36:23.000 emergency shelter is a welcome
00:36:25.000 reprieve for many, like 29-year-old
00:36:27.400 Margarita Hebreu, who
00:36:29.100 crossed the U.S.-Mexico border
00:36:30.900 pregnant with her five- and
00:36:32.720 three-year-old daughters.
00:36:34.300 Back at home in Venezuela, she 1.00
00:36:35.720 says there is nothing.
00:36:38.740 The mayor of Laredo has declared
00:36:40.440 a citywide emergency.
00:36:42.680 The disaster is an imminent
00:36:44.280 disaster.
00:36:44.960 It may not be here right now, but
00:36:46.900 it's like a hurricane that's
00:36:48.020 coming.
00:36:48.340 You board up before the
00:36:49.320 hurricane.
00:36:50.260 With this week's policy change,
00:36:52.320 U.S.
00:36:52.660 officials expect as many as 10,000
00:36:55.360 migrants a day to traverse the U.S.-Mexico 0.99
00:36:57.660 border at crossings like the one
00:36:59.800 behind me.
00:37:01.220 Margaret?
00:37:02.280 I mean, Senator, you listen to
00:37:03.660 this, and they're all saying it,
00:37:05.240 they're all calling it a pandemic
00:37:07.280 legislation that is going to
00:37:10.440 expire and then explode into
00:37:13.240 another type of pandemic, in
00:37:14.660 essence.
00:37:16.240 It is when even CBS calls it a
00:37:20.720 humanitarian disaster.
00:37:22.680 That tells you something.
00:37:24.040 When even CBS is saying what the
00:37:27.200 Biden administration is doing is
00:37:29.140 going to produce 10,000 people a
00:37:31.840 day.
00:37:32.220 And I got to say, look, they aired
00:37:33.820 that on the Sunday show on Face the
00:37:36.740 Nation, the images.
00:37:37.980 You see people just homeless, just
00:37:41.220 gathered in the streets.
00:37:42.360 It is a crisis in South Texas.
00:37:45.440 It is a crisis that is overwhelming.
00:37:50.200 It's overwhelming the hospitals.
00:37:51.880 It's overwhelming the jails.
00:37:53.040 It's overwhelming the schools.
00:37:54.300 It's overwhelming the communities.
00:37:56.360 The state of emergency has been
00:37:57.260 declared in El Paso.
00:37:58.320 I mean, that's not normal.
00:38:00.340 It is.
00:38:01.660 There's a state of emergency in
00:38:02.980 El Paso.
00:38:03.600 There's a state of emergency in
00:38:04.960 Laredo.
00:38:06.160 There are states of emergencies up
00:38:09.740 and down our southern border.
00:38:11.140 And the cause of the the emergency
00:38:14.200 is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and
00:38:17.960 congressional Democrats.
00:38:19.780 And not only do they affirmatively
00:38:21.880 want this emergency to exist, they
00:38:24.260 want it to be worse.
00:38:26.340 And they're deliberately making
00:38:27.580 decisions to make it worse.
00:38:29.260 Well, one other question on this.
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00:40:05.880 Senator, is there going to be any
00:40:07.880 accountability?
00:40:08.700 How many illegal immigrants is it going 1.00
00:40:10.100 to take?
00:40:10.860 How many criminals is it going to take
00:40:12.460 coming across the border for
00:40:14.620 Mayorkas? 0.99
00:40:15.340 And he's still out there lying to the
00:40:17.320 American people.
00:40:19.000 Mayorkas was at the border not long 1.00
00:40:21.020 ago, or his definition of the border,
00:40:23.260 saying this.
00:40:24.500 The border is not open.
00:40:26.420 It has not been open.
00:40:27.880 And it will not be open subsequent to
00:40:30.640 May 11th.
00:40:31.920 That's just not true.
00:40:33.180 We know that he was lying then.
00:40:34.800 We know he's lying now.
00:40:36.180 More than 6.3, now probably 6.4 million
00:40:38.540 illegal immigrants have crossed the 1.00
00:40:39.800 border since Biden took office.
00:40:41.340 We gave those stats a moment ago.
00:40:42.820 What happened in just one week?
00:40:45.520 Well, within the Biden administration,
00:40:47.440 there are zero consequences for lying.
00:40:49.940 Mayorkas lies on a daily basis. 0.78
00:40:52.040 Corrine Jean-Pierre said that illegal
00:40:54.880 immigrants, illegal immigration had
00:40:57.060 dropped 90 percent under Joe Biden.
00:40:59.580 That's such a wild, bald-faced lie.
00:41:02.380 I actually wonder if the reporters
00:41:04.180 sitting in the press briefing room
00:41:05.600 moved because they were afraid lightning
00:41:07.200 was going to strike her as she was
00:41:08.440 talking.
00:41:09.380 And she does that on a daily basis. 0.99
00:41:12.300 And here's what we've learned.
00:41:14.480 Number one, there are no penalties for
00:41:16.020 lying in the Biden administration.
00:41:17.460 But number two, you get rewarded.
00:41:18.660 The only reasonable inference is it is
00:41:22.560 their job to lie.
00:41:24.820 Like Baghdad Bob, Saddam Hussein's 0.98
00:41:27.940 lying press spokesperson, Mayorkas and
00:41:31.780 Corrine Jean-Pierre are sent out every
00:41:34.020 day with the instructions, go lie because
00:41:37.620 Joe Biden wants you to lie, because the
00:41:40.060 Democrats in Congress want you to lie.
00:41:41.900 And they're counting on the dishonest
00:41:45.260 corporate media not to call them on their
00:41:47.660 lies. Now, there are moments where there
00:41:49.760 are cracks in the facade and you get
00:41:51.280 things like face the nation actually
00:41:52.800 admitting there's a humanitarian crisis
00:41:55.160 these guys have caused.
00:41:56.280 Now, mind you, although CBS acknowledged
00:42:00.120 that they didn't point out that every word
00:42:01.960 that comes out of the White House
00:42:03.420 spokespeople's mouths is a lie, that
00:42:06.780 there's still no consequences.
00:42:09.460 You ask will be the consequences to pay
00:42:11.460 to two groups will determine that.
00:42:13.880 Number one, the House of Representatives,
00:42:16.340 as you know, I believe we should impeach
00:42:18.180 Alejandro Mayorkas.
00:42:19.440 I hope they do exactly that.
00:42:21.460 Number two, the American people.
00:42:23.720 I think the real accountability is going
00:42:25.480 to be in November of next year.
00:42:27.400 And I hope the American people say enough
00:42:29.660 is enough and throw the bums out, throw 1.00
00:42:32.060 Joe Biden out of the White House and 0.59
00:42:34.180 throw Democrats out of the Senate and the
00:42:36.240 House and give us Republican majorities in
00:42:38.120 both.
00:42:38.680 If we have a Republican president and a
00:42:40.600 Republican Senate and a Republican House,
00:42:42.660 we can solve this problem.
00:42:44.080 We can do it fast and we know we can do
00:42:46.600 that because we did it before.
00:42:49.240 In 2020, the last year of the Trump
00:42:51.780 presidency, we had the lowest rate of
00:42:54.060 illegal immigration in 45 years.
00:42:56.780 We can do it again.
00:42:58.720 And if the American people want this
00:43:01.320 insanity stopped, the way to get there is
00:43:05.200 a big, big win next November.
00:43:07.640 Yeah, great point.
00:43:08.500 Don't forget on Wednesday, everybody, we're
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00:43:12.080 guest doing a very deep dive into the
00:43:14.680 Biden crime family and what all they are
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