Verdict with Ted Cruz - Panic Over Hunter Biden, plus Clarence Thomas Smear and with Title 42 Expiring, Border Will Get Even Worse

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00:00:05.600 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.320 Nice to have you with us today.

00:00:10.860 We've got a lot to talk about, including some breaking news with Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.

00:00:15.240 Plus, an update on one of our shows that went viral dealing with Clarence Thomas

00:00:19.980 and what's happening on Capitol Hill.

00:00:22.120 And finally, the end of Title 42 and what's happening at the border.

00:00:25.440 Senator, I want to get your initial response to the ex-spy.

00:00:29.380 And this is really big news.

00:00:31.720 Behind the discredited Hunter Biden letter, claiming that that laptop was Russian disinformation,

00:00:39.320 said he wanted to provide the Biden campaign with a debate talking point, quote unquote, your reaction to that.

00:00:48.820 Well, we now have an email on October 19th, 2020, where Michael Morell, former senior official in the FBI,

00:00:59.380 is emailing to John Brennan, who was Obama's head of the FBI.

00:01:04.060 And the email says, John, can I add your name to this list?

00:01:08.120 We'll be adding Leon, Sue Gordon, Jay Johnson, George, Lisa Monaco, and Mike Rogers today.

00:01:15.480 And working on adding Dan Coats, Mike Rogers, and Tom Bosert, and lists of other IC career folks trying to give the campaign,

00:01:25.880 particularly during the debate on Thursday, a talking point to push back on Trump on this issue.

00:01:32.680 Thanks, Michael.

00:01:34.380 And here's Brennan's entire response.

00:01:36.760 Okay, Michael, add my name to the list.

00:01:40.040 Good initiative.

00:01:41.420 Thanks for asking me to sign on.

00:01:44.020 This was politics.

00:01:45.920 This was senior officials of the intelligence community lying for politics.

00:01:52.540 Give Biden a debate talking point.

00:01:54.400 Never mind that it's a lie.

00:01:55.500 falsely claim the true information in Hunter Biden's laptop is actually Russian disinformation

00:02:01.620 because they know Biden will be all the happy to lie about it.

00:02:06.020 And by the way, who is John Brennan?

00:02:07.720 John Brennan was Obama's CIA director,

00:02:10.500 who is such a radical

00:02:13.340 that

00:02:14.840 when he was a young man

00:02:17.120 1980 election

00:02:20.120 between Jimmy Carter

00:02:22.300 and Ronald Reagan.

00:02:24.260 Do you know who John Brennan voted for?

00:02:26.740 I'm going to guess not Ronald Reagan.

00:02:28.940 Not Ronald Reagan, but not Jimmy Carter.

00:02:32.640 He voted for the communist on the ballot.

00:02:36.820 Wow.

00:02:37.940 He said Jimmy Carter

00:02:39.500 is not liberal enough,

00:02:41.260 and so he voted for the communist nominee

00:02:44.180 to be president of the United States.

00:02:46.800 That's who Obama

00:02:48.400 put

00:02:49.460 put in place.

00:02:52.200 It was Gus Hall was his name

00:02:53.580 and he was the nominee

00:02:55.260 of the Communist Party of the United States.

00:02:57.380 He was the nominee in 1972,

00:02:59.360 1976,

00:03:00.100 1980,

00:03:00.600 and 1984.

00:03:02.220 And John Brennan said,

00:03:03.600 no, that Jimmy Carter guy,

00:03:05.840 too much of a right winger.

00:03:07.500 Give me the full-fledged communist.

00:03:09.360 And you know one of the things communists

00:03:10.820 are happy to do?

00:03:12.400 Lie.

00:03:13.720 Lie when it helps them politically.

00:03:15.420 Actually,

00:03:15.780 communists embrace lying

00:03:17.360 as one of the tools

00:03:18.560 they engage in.

00:03:20.020 That

00:03:20.400 is who

00:03:22.020 Tony Blinken,

00:03:22.860 who got rewarded

00:03:23.640 with Secretary of State,

00:03:25.380 that's who Tony Blinken

00:03:26.600 was rounding up.

00:03:28.620 Give me the communist

00:03:29.440 who ran the CIA.

00:03:31.160 You know,

00:03:31.400 it's sort of like,

00:03:32.400 let's call Mikey,

00:03:33.220 he'll eat anything.

00:03:34.420 Let's call John,

00:03:35.260 he'll say anything.

00:03:36.740 And they got their talking point

00:03:38.180 at the debate,

00:03:38.760 and Biden was more than happy

00:03:40.340 to repeat it,

00:03:41.000 even though it was an utter

00:03:42.340 and complete lie.

00:03:43.980 This is,

00:03:44.920 you and I have had this discussion

00:03:46.420 behind the scenes,

00:03:47.300 and I'm excited to tell

00:03:48.680 the audience,

00:03:50.120 we've decided on Wednesday

00:03:51.540 to do a special show

00:03:53.780 really recapping

00:03:55.140 where we are

00:03:56.080 with Joe Biden,

00:03:56.980 the Biden-crank family,

00:03:58.400 the nine family members

00:03:59.560 that we know of

00:04:00.100 taking money,

00:04:01.160 and we're going to have

00:04:01.760 a very special guest.

00:04:02.760 That's right,

00:04:04.440 up to 12,

00:04:04.940 excuse me,

00:04:05.440 12 people now.

00:04:06.780 Tell everybody

00:04:07.480 who we're going to be having

00:04:08.400 on the show on Wednesday

00:04:09.460 and why they don't want

00:04:10.120 to miss that one.

00:04:11.340 Well,

00:04:11.760 we'll be having

00:04:12.300 my longtime friend,

00:04:13.440 Jim Jordan,

00:04:14.100 he's going to join us

00:04:14.880 on the pod,

00:04:15.460 and we're going to do

00:04:15.960 a deep dive

00:04:16.680 into the investigations

00:04:17.820 that Jim is leading

00:04:19.420 in the House of Representatives.

00:04:20.900 We're going to talk

00:04:21.420 about where they stand,

00:04:22.500 we're going to talk

00:04:22.940 about the details,

00:04:23.980 and the nice thing

00:04:24.620 about it is

00:04:25.120 we're going to go through

00:04:26.560 it at a level

00:04:27.100 of specificity

00:04:28.060 that you don't get into

00:04:30.200 watching a TV show.

00:04:32.260 Look,

00:04:32.860 you know,

00:04:33.120 I go on Fox News,

00:04:34.380 I go on Newsmax,

00:04:35.260 I do TV hits,

00:04:36.060 you do also.

00:04:37.400 You're doing a six-minute hit,

00:04:39.260 an eight-minute hit,

00:04:40.720 you can get a little

00:04:41.540 talking point in,

00:04:42.360 you can say something,

00:04:43.440 a brief little,

00:04:44.220 a line that's catchy,

00:04:45.580 maybe a tiny little vignette,

00:04:47.920 but that's it.

00:04:49.880 A big part of the reason

00:04:51.460 I like the podcast format

00:04:53.140 is you actually have

00:04:54.900 the ability to discuss

00:04:55.940 something of substance.

00:04:57.040 So we're going to sit down

00:04:57.740 with Jim Jordan

00:04:58.400 and say,

00:04:58.760 let's talk about this.

00:04:59.740 What's this about?

00:05:00.440 What are the issues?

00:05:02.040 What are the facts?

00:05:02.880 What do we know?

00:05:03.620 What do we need to know?

00:05:05.160 And so if you really

00:05:06.660 want to understand

00:05:07.660 all of the evidence

00:05:09.580 of corruption

00:05:10.400 surrounding Joe Biden,

00:05:12.800 both in his time

00:05:13.520 as vice president

00:05:14.320 and in his time

00:05:14.980 as president,

00:05:17.140 Wednesday's podcast

00:05:18.000 is going to be one

00:05:19.060 you won't want to miss

00:05:19.840 because we're going to

00:05:20.360 walk through the details

00:05:21.560 carefully in clear,

00:05:23.180 understandable ways.

00:05:24.080 One last question

00:05:25.580 on this one.

00:05:26.500 There does seem to be

00:05:28.100 a narrative change

00:05:30.400 recently on this.

00:05:32.180 There does seem to be now

00:05:33.200 a White House

00:05:33.820 that's willing to speak out

00:05:35.140 and not just dodge things

00:05:37.600 being forced,

00:05:38.540 I would argue,

00:05:39.100 to speak out on this.

00:05:40.620 Do you feel that

00:05:41.600 even in Washington, D.C.,

00:05:43.180 where there's so much

00:05:44.080 numbness to scandals

00:05:45.380 and even jadedness,

00:05:46.980 that this does seem

00:05:48.300 to be changing

00:05:48.960 a little bit?

00:05:49.620 It does.

00:05:51.940 And look,

00:05:52.460 to show you how bad it is,

00:05:53.820 let me just read you

00:05:54.980 three headlines

00:05:56.160 from the past week.

00:05:58.380 Headline number one

00:05:59.220 from CBS News.

00:06:00.980 Grassley Comer

00:06:01.940 alleged bribery scheme

00:06:03.820 involving Biden

00:06:05.280 and demand documents

00:06:07.100 from FBI.

00:06:08.380 That's one headline.

00:06:10.280 Here's a second headline.

00:06:11.440 This one is from Politico.

00:06:14.800 Bracing for impact.

00:06:16.740 Biden world preps

00:06:18.480 for Hunter Biden fallout.

00:06:21.980 Biden aides are more worried

00:06:23.240 about the personal toll

00:06:24.280 it will take on the president

00:06:25.340 as a father.

00:06:27.100 So that's headline number two.

00:06:28.620 All right,

00:06:28.780 let me just give you

00:06:29.360 one more headline.

00:06:30.360 Number three.

00:06:32.320 Biden setting stage

00:06:33.660 for pardoning Hunter

00:06:35.240 as he frames

00:06:37.220 potential DOJ charges

00:06:38.840 as political witch hunt.

00:06:42.060 Biden denied

00:06:43.100 that a potential Hunter indictment

00:06:44.560 would have any impact

00:06:45.660 on his presidency.

00:06:46.620 That's from Fox News.

00:06:48.480 Again,

00:06:49.440 just just in the past

00:06:51.460 couple of days.

00:06:52.920 This is getting worse

00:06:54.600 and worse and worse.

00:06:56.660 And the amazing thing is

00:06:57.820 this is all why

00:06:59.300 while DOJ is desperately

00:07:00.860 trying to cover up

00:07:01.780 the connection

00:07:02.360 to the big guy,

00:07:04.000 to daddy.

00:07:04.860 They're trying to put it

00:07:06.040 all on Hunter,

00:07:07.060 the poor troubled soul

00:07:08.220 and protect against

00:07:10.060 any investigation

00:07:11.040 into the real corruption

00:07:12.740 that is the matter

00:07:13.940 of public concern.

00:07:14.700 Yeah,

00:07:15.560 the Wednesday show

00:07:16.300 is going to be one

00:07:16.960 for the books.

00:07:17.680 Make sure you hit that

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00:07:24.260 especially on Wednesday.

00:07:25.040 It's going to be a really fun,

00:07:26.320 in-depth,

00:07:27.020 deep look at this story

00:07:28.600 and where it stands now

00:07:30.180 with this actual investigation

00:07:31.360 on the House side

00:07:32.240 with Jim Jordan.

00:07:33.520 He will join us

00:07:34.140 on Wednesday's show,

00:07:35.340 so make sure for that.

00:07:36.880 Senator,

00:07:37.080 I want to also move

00:07:38.180 to another update

00:07:39.680 and this was dealt

00:07:40.980 with Clarence Thomas.

00:07:42.700 We talked about it,

00:07:43.940 had a special guest

00:07:44.840 talking about Clarence Thomas.

00:07:46.060 The attack on Clarence Thomas

00:07:47.380 was going to happen.

00:07:48.520 We knew that next day

00:07:49.420 by Democrats.

00:07:50.180 They're trying to undermine him,

00:07:51.460 really undermine

00:07:52.300 the Supreme Court

00:07:53.820 and you had a very

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00:09:13.780 Senator,

00:09:14.560 you were exposing

00:09:16.800 the baseless smears

00:09:18.180 that were directed

00:09:19.860 at Justice Thomas

00:09:20.660 by Democrats

00:09:21.400 and the media

00:09:22.840 who has been

00:09:23.440 doing this as well.

00:09:24.760 They have been

00:09:25.200 all in on trying

00:09:26.080 to take down

00:09:26.720 Clarence Thomas.

00:09:27.820 I want to play

00:09:29.220 for everybody

00:09:30.040 because it was

00:09:31.040 just so brilliant.

00:09:32.640 You exposing

00:09:33.800 just some of these lies

00:09:35.040 before Congress

00:09:36.040 as Democrats

00:09:36.660 were gearing up

00:09:37.440 and they want to get rid

00:09:38.480 of Clarence Thomas.

00:09:39.280 Make no mistake about it.

00:09:40.600 Take a listen to this.

00:09:41.860 In 1991,

00:09:43.620 Justice Clarence Thomas

00:09:44.560 appeared before

00:09:45.220 this committee

00:09:45.820 in one of the most

00:09:47.420 disgraceful performances

00:09:49.100 by the Senate Judiciary

00:09:50.200 Committee

00:09:50.520 in our nation's history.

00:09:52.560 Justice Thomas

00:09:53.240 rightly described

00:09:54.320 the treatment he got

00:09:55.360 from then Chairman

00:09:56.240 Joe Biden

00:09:56.960 and Senate Democrats

00:09:58.540 as a quote

00:09:59.340 high-tech lynching.

00:10:01.760 It is sad to see

00:10:03.060 30 years later

00:10:03.980 this committee

00:10:04.540 is again engaged

00:10:06.480 in the same

00:10:07.040 despicable tactics.

00:10:09.160 Senate Democrats 1.00

00:10:10.180 and their lapdogs 0.98

00:10:11.180 in the media 0.97

00:10:11.640 are engaged

00:10:12.500 in a two-fold

00:10:13.320 political campaign.

00:10:15.260 Number one,

00:10:15.860 to delegitimize

00:10:16.640 the Supreme Court

00:10:17.460 of the United States

00:10:18.260 because they are angry

00:10:19.300 that they are a majority

00:10:20.540 of constitutionalists

00:10:21.540 on the court.

00:10:22.820 But number two,

00:10:24.120 very directly,

00:10:25.220 this is a political campaign

00:10:26.840 designed to smear

00:10:28.360 Justice Clarence Thomas.

00:10:31.240 And the reason is simple.

00:10:32.380 The left despises

00:10:34.500 Clarence Thomas.

00:10:36.720 And they do not despise him

00:10:38.140 because he's a conservative.

00:10:39.540 The left despises

00:10:41.000 Clarence Thomas

00:10:41.800 because he is a conservative

00:10:43.160 African-American.

00:10:44.720 Here's what Clarence Thomas

00:10:45.680 said at that confirmation hearing.

00:10:47.700 He said,

00:10:48.180 if you are a free-thinking

00:10:49.840 African-American,

00:10:50.920 quote, 1.00

00:10:51.320 you will be lynched, 1.00

00:10:52.720 destroyed, 0.99

00:10:53.420 and caricatured

00:10:54.540 by a committee

00:10:55.060 of the U.S. Senate.

00:10:57.160 Well,

00:10:57.400 in three decades

00:10:58.040 that hasn't changed

00:10:58.920 and it's gotten worse.

00:10:59.800 And to be clear,

00:11:01.000 here's the left's view.

00:11:02.780 I point to one article

00:11:04.140 just three weeks ago.

00:11:06.420 The Democrats

00:11:07.000 need to destroy

00:11:08.460 Clarence Thomas' reputation.

00:11:11.380 They'll never

00:11:11.880 successfully impeach him,

00:11:13.140 but so what?

00:11:14.420 Make him a metaphor

00:11:15.300 for every insidious thing

00:11:17.140 the far right

00:11:18.120 has done to this country.

00:11:20.160 That's what the left

00:11:21.100 is trying to do.

00:11:21.980 And I will tell you,

00:11:23.180 if you look at the next

00:11:24.000 poster board,

00:11:25.700 the left has repeatedly

00:11:27.960 attacked Clarence Thomas

00:11:29.400 with a racism.

00:11:31.500 This is a magazine cover

00:11:32.920 that showed Justice Scalia

00:11:34.220 every bit as conservative

00:11:35.780 as Clarence Thomas,

00:11:37.360 but he's portrayed

00:11:38.360 as the master

00:11:39.160 and Clarence Thomas

00:11:40.420 in a bigoted attack

00:11:41.840 is portrayed

00:11:43.300 as shining his shoes.

00:11:45.020 I'll show you another one

00:11:46.240 to give you a sense

00:11:47.600 of the racist vitriol

00:11:49.100 from the left. 0.55

00:11:50.080 Here's a racist caricature

00:11:51.400 of Clarence Thomas.

00:11:52.740 Lawn jockey

00:11:53.500 for the far right.

00:11:55.240 This is the bigoted contempt

00:11:57.100 the left has.

00:11:58.100 I'll show you another

00:11:58.920 magazine cover.

00:12:02.440 Offensively,

00:12:03.700 this is

00:12:04.880 how the left

00:12:06.380 views Clarence Thomas.

00:12:07.900 Now, it's important

00:12:08.540 for people at home

00:12:09.240 to understand

00:12:09.820 this is not about

00:12:10.900 judicial ethics.

00:12:11.660 You can take those down.

00:12:12.680 This is not about

00:12:13.340 judicial ethics.

00:12:14.680 This is not about

00:12:15.680 rules that should apply

00:12:16.700 to judges across the board.

00:12:17.920 We could have a reasonable

00:12:18.740 discussion about that.

00:12:19.720 This is about applying

00:12:21.980 a double standard

00:12:22.960 to Clarence Thomas

00:12:23.840 and only Clarence Thomas.

00:12:25.980 The attack

00:12:26.920 that my Democrat

00:12:28.040 colleagues breathlessly

00:12:29.260 repeat is that

00:12:30.060 Clarence Thomas

00:12:30.760 stayed at the vacation

00:12:32.320 home of a very close

00:12:33.600 friend of his,

00:12:34.260 a successful Texas

00:12:35.120 businessman,

00:12:36.100 flew on his plane

00:12:37.240 and went on his yacht.

00:12:38.560 Well, if that's the standard,

00:12:41.620 going and traveling

00:12:42.640 and being paid for

00:12:43.600 by others,

00:12:44.300 then guess what?

00:12:45.240 Just about every

00:12:46.060 Supreme Court justice

00:12:47.060 has done so

00:12:47.840 and done so

00:12:49.360 in much greater numbers.

00:12:51.580 Justice Thomas

00:12:52.160 was appointed in 1991

00:12:53.540 and the time since then,

00:12:55.020 he's taken 109

00:12:56.340 reported trips,

00:12:57.300 five international trips.

00:12:59.360 Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg

00:13:00.540 was appointed in 1993,

00:13:02.260 two years later.

00:13:03.040 In the time she was

00:13:03.800 on the court,

00:13:04.300 she took 157 trips,

00:13:07.960 including 28

00:13:09.000 international trips.

00:13:11.220 Mr. Payne,

00:13:12.040 yes or no,

00:13:12.560 do you think

00:13:12.940 Ruth Bader Ginsburg

00:13:13.600 was corrupt?

00:13:15.100 No.

00:13:16.220 Nor do I.

00:13:18.140 Ruth Bader Ginsburg

00:13:19.120 was not alone.

00:13:20.160 Justice Stephen Breyer

00:13:21.280 appointed the year later

00:13:22.460 in 1994,

00:13:23.620 took 233 reported trips,

00:13:26.200 including 63

00:13:27.560 international trips.

00:13:29.100 Again,

00:13:29.380 yes or no,

00:13:29.840 Mr. Payne,

00:13:30.320 do you think

00:13:30.660 Stephen Breyer was corrupt?

00:13:32.660 No.

00:13:33.600 Nor do I.

00:13:34.660 I would point out

00:13:35.400 Justice Kagan

00:13:36.140 has done the same thing.

00:13:37.320 Justice Sotomayor

00:13:38.400 has done the same thing.

00:13:39.740 And yet,

00:13:40.080 none of my Democrat

00:13:40.940 colleagues care

00:13:42.340 because this is

00:13:43.960 a political attack

00:13:45.060 directed at a justice

00:13:47.020 they hate.

00:13:48.440 And by the way,

00:13:49.000 let's spend a moment

00:13:49.900 focusing on

00:13:51.340 Justice Stephen Breyer,

00:13:52.420 a delightful human being,

00:13:53.980 someone I know personally,

00:13:55.260 someone who served

00:13:55.840 decades on the court.

00:13:57.780 Justice Stephen Breyer

00:13:58.920 repeatedly

00:13:59.800 traveled on the penny

00:14:02.640 of a prominent

00:14:03.700 Democratic billionaire,

00:14:05.720 the Pritzker family.

00:14:07.640 Now,

00:14:07.840 J.B.

00:14:08.260 Pritzner

00:14:08.660 is the Democrat

00:14:10.660 governor of the state

00:14:11.720 of Illinois,

00:14:12.640 from which our chairman

00:14:13.620 hails.

00:14:14.140 I would be shocked

00:14:15.280 if the chairman

00:14:16.380 of this committee

00:14:17.020 has not had

00:14:17.660 multiple meals

00:14:18.640 with the Pritzker family.

00:14:21.740 Justice Breyer

00:14:22.600 was a longtime

00:14:23.300 member of the board

00:14:24.080 that awarded

00:14:24.540 the Pritzker

00:14:25.220 Architecture Prize.

00:14:26.200 Now,

00:14:26.320 what did that mean?

00:14:27.000 That meant

00:14:27.700 Justice Breyer

00:14:28.500 traveled

00:14:29.080 on the dime

00:14:30.780 of these

00:14:31.200 Democrat billionaires.

00:14:32.520 In 2019,

00:14:33.440 Justice Breyer

00:14:34.380 traveled to New York City,

00:14:35.520 to Vancouver,

00:14:36.160 and Paris.

00:14:36.980 In 2018,

00:14:38.960 Justice Breyer

00:14:39.940 traveled to Ireland

00:14:40.840 and Spain.

00:14:41.500 In 2016,

00:14:42.360 he traveled to New York,

00:14:43.380 Spain,

00:14:43.720 and France.

00:14:44.440 In 2013,

00:14:45.560 he traveled to Norway,

00:14:46.720 Sweden,

00:14:47.200 Denmark.

00:14:48.080 In 2012,

00:14:49.200 he traveled to Beijing

00:14:50.140 and to London.

00:14:51.880 All of this paid for

00:14:53.260 by the Pritzker Foundation.

00:14:54.440 Now,

00:14:54.760 none of my Democrat

00:14:55.520 colleagues are mad

00:14:56.360 about this,

00:14:56.840 and let me be clear.

00:14:58.100 I'm not suggesting

00:14:59.180 Justice Breyer

00:14:59.980 is corrupt. 0.80

00:15:00.880 What I'm suggesting 0.87

00:15:01.800 is this committee 0.89

00:15:03.180 is corrupt

00:15:03.800 because this is 0.99

00:15:04.640 a kangaroo circus, 0.87

00:15:06.080 and I will note

00:15:07.500 we had 15 Senate Democrats,

00:15:10.060 including six members

00:15:10.940 of this committee,

00:15:12.040 send a letter

00:15:12.480 to the Appropriations Committee

00:15:13.800 threatening

00:15:14.440 to cut off

00:15:15.720 the funding

00:15:16.400 for security

00:15:17.520 at the Supreme Court.

00:15:19.360 The left is willing

00:15:20.580 to threaten

00:15:21.400 the lives

00:15:22.320 of the justices.

00:15:23.460 Justice Samuel Alito

00:15:25.040 this weekend

00:15:25.700 in the Wall Street Journal

00:15:26.800 said that the attacks

00:15:28.100 directed at the justices

00:15:29.340 are making them

00:15:30.780 targets of assassination.

00:15:33.740 This is disgraceful.

00:15:36.780 Every senator

00:15:37.720 who signed this letter

00:15:38.820 should be embarrassed.

00:15:39.860 Mr. Chairman,

00:15:40.400 I ask unanimous consent

00:15:41.460 that this letter

00:15:42.120 be admitted into the record

00:15:43.580 and also that

00:15:44.380 the interview

00:15:45.640 with Justice Alito

00:15:46.540 from this weekend

00:15:47.540 be entered into the record.

00:15:49.680 Democrats can have

00:15:50.620 disagreements

00:15:51.200 based on law,

00:15:52.000 but this attempt

00:15:53.440 to delegitimize

00:15:54.240 the court,

00:15:54.940 this attempt

00:15:55.440 to personally smear

00:15:56.740 Clarence Thomas

00:15:57.700 is dishonest, 0.75

00:15:59.520 and everyone

00:16:00.280 in the media

00:16:00.780 echoing it

00:16:01.480 is participating

00:16:02.240 in a shameful

00:16:03.980 reprise

00:16:04.940 of 1991's

00:16:07.100 high-tech lynching.

00:16:08.780 Senator,

00:16:09.560 unbelievable,

00:16:10.900 by the way,

00:16:11.340 the way that you

00:16:11.840 laid it out

00:16:12.360 for everybody,

00:16:13.100 and I'm glad

00:16:13.560 that you were able

00:16:14.140 to do that,

00:16:15.100 but the media

00:16:15.840 hasn't stopped

00:16:16.580 since then.

00:16:17.040 They're still

00:16:17.720 coming after

00:16:18.680 Clarence Thomas

00:16:19.440 and his family

00:16:20.400 members.

00:16:21.700 Well,

00:16:21.840 that's exactly

00:16:22.440 right.

00:16:22.860 So what you

00:16:23.280 just played

00:16:23.820 was from

00:16:24.280 the Judiciary

00:16:24.840 Committee hearing

00:16:25.640 last week.

00:16:26.800 It was the hearing

00:16:27.920 on, quote,

00:16:28.480 judicial ethics,

00:16:29.380 and it was the

00:16:30.360 reason we released

00:16:31.400 the pod a day

00:16:32.740 early last week.

00:16:33.780 We normally do

00:16:34.520 Monday,

00:16:35.320 Wednesday,

00:16:35.540 and Friday.

00:16:36.300 Last week,

00:16:36.820 we did Monday,

00:16:37.600 Tuesday,

00:16:37.820 and Friday

00:16:38.420 because we wanted

00:16:39.860 last Tuesday's pod

00:16:41.380 to be out

00:16:41.880 before the hearing

00:16:43.060 in Judiciary.

00:16:44.740 That pod provided

00:16:46.140 in great detail

00:16:47.480 some of the

00:16:48.040 background on

00:16:48.620 Clarence Thomas

00:16:49.180 as to why the

00:16:50.180 charges weren't

00:16:50.900 accurate,

00:16:51.980 and I've got to

00:16:52.620 say it really

00:16:53.140 was striking

00:16:53.780 because the

00:16:55.560 hearing did not

00:16:56.460 go the way

00:16:56.980 the Democrats

00:16:57.460 wanted,

00:16:58.080 and by the end

00:16:58.840 of it,

00:16:59.080 the Democrat

00:16:59.480 senators had

00:17:00.140 fled the room.

00:17:00.880 They realized 0.97

00:17:01.640 their hypocrisy 0.89

00:17:03.120 had come out, 0.92

00:17:04.000 and they wanted

00:17:05.140 it to be just

00:17:06.000 a slugfest

00:17:06.800 beating up on

00:17:07.580 Justice Thomas,

00:17:09.200 and it didn't

00:17:10.060 play out that way

00:17:10.860 because they have

00:17:11.500 no defense.

00:17:12.140 They have no

00:17:12.480 response.

00:17:13.160 It's not like

00:17:13.700 they can say,

00:17:14.900 oh, well,

00:17:15.720 Justice Breyer

00:17:16.760 flying on

00:17:18.120 lavish trips

00:17:19.240 to Europe

00:17:20.300 paid for

00:17:20.880 by Democrat

00:17:21.500 billionaires.

00:17:22.160 That's very

00:17:22.780 different.

00:17:23.120 They literally

00:17:24.520 just ignore

00:17:25.140 the point.

00:17:27.740 What's happened

00:17:28.480 since then?

00:17:29.260 Well, what's

00:17:29.620 happened since

00:17:30.180 then is the

00:17:30.760 drip, drip,

00:17:31.540 drip of

00:17:32.760 attacks,

00:17:33.600 and we talked

00:17:34.360 about this

00:17:34.820 before in

00:17:35.460 last Tuesday's

00:17:36.360 pod.

00:17:37.300 This is an

00:17:38.180 organized political

00:17:39.300 attack.

00:17:39.820 This is just

00:17:40.300 like if you're

00:17:41.280 running a campaign

00:17:43.080 for governor

00:17:43.780 or senator

00:17:44.260 or president,

00:17:44.820 and the other

00:17:45.180 side has an

00:17:45.700 OPPO research

00:17:46.300 department,

00:17:47.180 they're putting

00:17:47.980 out a daily

00:17:48.580 attack, and

00:17:49.180 they are running

00:17:49.700 a campaign

00:17:50.280 against Clarence

00:17:50.980 Thomas.

00:17:52.060 And to be

00:17:52.880 clear, let's

00:17:54.080 be very clear

00:17:54.860 what their

00:17:55.460 objective is.

00:17:57.220 Their objective

00:17:58.280 is to destroy

00:17:59.700 Justice Thomas.

00:18:00.680 Let me read you a

00:18:01.660 little bit from

00:18:02.200 an opinion column

00:18:03.140 May 4th in the

00:18:04.620 Washington Post

00:18:05.460 by Ruth Marcus,

00:18:07.020 the associate editor.

00:18:08.060 The title is

00:18:09.580 Clarence Thomas

00:18:10.720 should get out

00:18:11.340 his checkbook

00:18:12.000 and reimburse

00:18:13.420 Harlan Crowe.

00:18:14.920 The opening

00:18:15.700 line of it is

00:18:16.520 the Clarence

00:18:17.420 Thomas story

00:18:18.080 has now entered

00:18:19.040 the Abe Fortas

00:18:20.300 danger zone.

00:18:21.700 Now who is

00:18:22.060 Abe Fortas?

00:18:22.640 Abe Fortas is

00:18:23.340 a Supreme Court

00:18:23.900 justice who resigned

00:18:25.080 in disgrace

00:18:25.840 because of

00:18:26.740 corruption.

00:18:27.860 That's what the

00:18:28.740 left wants,

00:18:29.740 and that's the

00:18:30.680 analogy we're

00:18:31.880 hearing lots and

00:18:32.600 lots of people

00:18:33.140 tell the story

00:18:33.820 of Abe Fortas.

00:18:34.640 Why?

00:18:34.920 The left has

00:18:35.600 convinced themselves

00:18:36.620 if they can

00:18:38.240 relentlessly drag 0.72

00:18:39.480 Justice Thomas

00:18:40.200 through the mud,

00:18:41.180 at some point

00:18:42.540 he'll surrender

00:18:43.220 and go away, 0.97

00:18:44.700 and they can

00:18:45.680 replace one of

00:18:46.600 the greatest

00:18:46.960 constitutionalists

00:18:47.840 ever with a

00:18:48.580 left-wing activist

00:18:49.700 who will

00:18:50.760 undermine the

00:18:52.980 Constitution

00:18:53.680 and implement

00:18:55.560 and force

00:18:56.660 the left's

00:18:57.500 radical agenda

00:18:58.360 on the American

00:18:59.020 people.

00:19:00.060 That's what

00:19:00.620 they're trying to

00:19:01.160 do.

00:19:01.320 By the way,

00:19:01.760 you know,

00:19:01.900 it's very

00:19:02.200 interesting.

00:19:03.360 The Post

00:19:03.800 says Clarence

00:19:04.420 Thomas should

00:19:04.900 reimburse

00:19:05.360 Harlan Crowe.

00:19:06.780 You know

00:19:07.040 what they

00:19:07.260 didn't say?

00:19:08.400 They didn't

00:19:09.180 say Stephen

00:19:09.760 Breyer should

00:19:10.420 reimburse the

00:19:11.040 Pritzkers.

00:19:12.140 They didn't

00:19:12.580 say Ruth

00:19:13.040 Bader Ginsburg

00:19:13.640 should reimburse

00:19:14.340 everyone who

00:19:14.980 paid for her

00:19:15.520 trips.

00:19:16.260 They didn't

00:19:16.660 say Sonia

00:19:17.360 Sotomayor should

00:19:18.220 reimburse everyone

00:19:19.000 who paid for

00:19:19.440 her trips.

00:19:20.160 They didn't

00:19:20.540 say Elena

00:19:20.980 Kagan should 0.86

00:19:21.540 reimburse everyone

00:19:22.200 who paid for

00:19:22.660 her trips.

00:19:23.560 This is

00:19:24.200 designed to

00:19:25.260 be a very

00:19:25.780 deliberate

00:19:26.500 attack going

00:19:28.240 directly

00:19:29.280 at

00:19:31.840 Clarence

00:19:34.180 Thomas.

00:19:36.060 And so

00:19:36.560 now they've

00:19:37.080 launched yet

00:19:37.660 another attack

00:19:38.460 and the

00:19:38.920 latest attack

00:19:39.740 which they

00:19:40.240 saved until

00:19:40.980 after the

00:19:41.520 hearing so

00:19:42.140 that there

00:19:43.300 would not

00:19:43.620 be a forum

00:19:44.200 to provide

00:19:44.760 the response

00:19:45.340 to it is

00:19:46.720 that this

00:19:47.640 same

00:19:48.600 Texan,

00:19:50.600 Harlan

00:19:50.860 Crowe,

00:19:52.060 also paid

00:19:52.980 thousands of

00:19:54.020 dollars of

00:19:54.640 tuition payments

00:19:55.640 and this is

00:19:56.380 now what has

00:19:56.980 the left

00:19:57.420 clutching their

00:19:58.520 pearls.

00:19:58.860 Now let's

00:20:00.420 talk about

00:20:00.980 the facts.

00:20:03.100 So Clarence

00:20:03.960 Thomas and

00:20:04.440 his wife

00:20:04.780 Jenny spent

00:20:06.700 12 years

00:20:07.940 helping not

00:20:09.260 their son,

00:20:11.160 not their

00:20:13.220 brother,

00:20:13.980 but rather

00:20:14.720 their great

00:20:15.740 nephew,

00:20:17.660 an individual

00:20:18.060 named Mark

00:20:19.360 Martin,

00:20:20.520 who was in

00:20:21.720 trouble.

00:20:22.120 He was in

00:20:22.400 real need and

00:20:23.360 Clarence Thomas

00:20:24.080 and Jenny

00:20:24.460 Thomas stepped

00:20:25.740 forward heroically

00:20:26.900 to raise

00:20:28.460 their great

00:20:28.980 nephew and

00:20:29.500 to raise

00:20:29.980 him and

00:20:30.200 to take

00:20:30.500 care of

00:20:30.900 him.

00:20:31.920 And this

00:20:33.440 is what

00:20:33.940 the left

00:20:34.520 is targeting

00:20:35.120 is that for

00:20:36.000 a period of

00:20:36.520 time Harlan

00:20:37.080 Crowe paid 0.64

00:20:38.340 tuition payments

00:20:39.260 to the

00:20:39.620 schools where

00:20:40.840 Thomas'

00:20:42.240 great nephew

00:20:42.960 was attending.

00:20:45.100 Now I

00:20:46.060 want to go

00:20:46.460 back.

00:20:48.160 Tuesday's

00:20:48.600 podcast we

00:20:49.280 interviewed

00:20:49.660 Mark

00:20:49.980 Paoletta who

00:20:51.300 has been

00:20:51.660 doing just

00:20:52.180 such an

00:20:52.580 incredible job

00:20:53.420 defending

00:20:53.960 Justice

00:20:54.420 Thomas and

00:20:54.940 putting the

00:20:55.280 facts out.

00:20:55.800 And I

00:20:56.940 want to

00:20:57.380 do a

00:20:58.100 little bit

00:20:58.420 of an

00:20:58.640 in-depth

00:20:59.020 examination

00:20:59.600 of the

00:21:00.260 statement

00:21:00.580 Mark

00:21:00.880 Paoletta

00:21:01.180 put out

00:21:01.760 on this

00:21:02.920 attack on

00:21:04.040 the tuition

00:21:04.440 payments because

00:21:04.980 it's important

00:21:05.500 to understand.

00:21:06.440 So I'm

00:21:06.880 reading from

00:21:07.520 the statement

00:21:07.980 of Mark

00:21:08.340 Paoletta,

00:21:08.820 friend of

00:21:09.180 Justice

00:21:09.460 Thomas.

00:21:10.020 Quote,

00:21:10.840 the Thomases

00:21:12.300 have rarely

00:21:12.800 spoken publicly

00:21:13.720 about the

00:21:14.960 remarkably generous

00:21:15.900 efforts to

00:21:17.240 help a

00:21:17.700 child in

00:21:18.180 need.

00:21:19.160 They have

00:21:19.460 always respected

00:21:20.120 the privacy

00:21:20.660 of this young

00:21:21.260 man and his

00:21:21.720 family.

00:21:22.580 It is

00:21:23.200 disappointing

00:21:23.700 and painful

00:21:24.360 but unsurprising

00:21:25.540 that some

00:21:26.120 journalists and

00:21:26.800 critics cannot

00:21:27.960 do the

00:21:28.400 same.

00:21:29.780 The

00:21:29.940 Thomases,

00:21:31.240 quietly and

00:21:32.400 honorably,

00:21:33.840 devoted 12

00:21:34.640 years of their

00:21:35.260 lives to

00:21:35.860 helping a

00:21:36.380 beloved child

00:21:37.200 in desperate

00:21:37.800 need of

00:21:38.280 love,

00:21:39.160 support,

00:21:40.000 and guidance.

00:21:41.420 In 1997,

00:21:43.400 Justice Thomas

00:21:44.000 and his wife

00:21:44.680 brought their

00:21:45.720 great-nephew

00:21:46.380 to live with

00:21:47.220 them.

00:21:48.140 They agreed to

00:21:49.140 take in this

00:21:49.740 young child,

00:21:51.140 much as

00:21:51.680 Justice Thomas'

00:21:52.360 grandparents had

00:21:53.360 done for him

00:21:53.900 and his

00:21:54.120 brother in

00:21:54.940 1955.

00:21:57.140 Justice Thomas'

00:21:57.980 grandparents

00:21:58.500 changed the

00:21:59.360 trajectory of

00:22:00.000 his life,

00:22:01.060 and the

00:22:01.420 Thomases hoped

00:22:02.120 to do the

00:22:02.580 same for a

00:22:03.720 child in

00:22:04.160 need.

00:22:05.960 Justice Thomas

00:22:06.820 and his

00:22:07.140 wife made 0.97

00:22:07.680 immeasurable

00:22:08.300 personal and

00:22:09.620 financial sacrifices

00:22:10.840 and poured

00:22:12.120 every ounce of

00:22:12.760 their lives and

00:22:13.420 hearts into

00:22:13.900 giving their

00:22:14.360 great-nephew a

00:22:15.080 chance to

00:22:15.560 succeed.

00:22:16.800 In the

00:22:17.460 summer of

00:22:17.880 2006,

00:22:19.580 the Thomases

00:22:20.060 were struggling

00:22:20.700 to find a

00:22:21.260 school where

00:22:21.740 they could send

00:22:22.240 their great-nephew.

00:22:24.140 In discussing

00:22:24.880 these challenges

00:22:25.740 with their

00:22:26.220 dear friends,

00:22:27.320 Harlan and

00:22:27.700 Kathy Groh,

00:22:29.200 Harlan recommended

00:22:30.180 that the

00:22:30.540 Thomases consider

00:22:31.420 one more option,

00:22:33.220 sending their

00:22:33.700 great-nephew

00:22:34.340 to Randolph-Macon

00:22:35.700 Academy.

00:22:37.340 Harlan had

00:22:38.180 attended Randolph-Macon

00:22:39.260 and he thought

00:22:40.440 the school would

00:22:41.060 be a good fit.

00:22:42.980 Harlan had

00:22:43.480 financially supported

00:22:44.500 Randolph-Macon

00:22:45.220 since the 1980s

00:22:46.460 and had funded

00:22:47.740 scholarships for

00:22:49.180 students from

00:22:49.840 disadvantaged

00:22:50.420 backgrounds.

00:22:51.000 Harlan offered

00:22:53.520 to pay the

00:22:54.160 first year of

00:22:54.940 Justice Thomas'

00:22:55.860 great-nephew's

00:22:56.580 tuition in

00:22:57.720 2006, and

00:22:59.540 that payment

00:23:00.100 went directly

00:23:00.920 to the school.

00:23:02.380 Harlan Crowe's

00:23:03.000 office confirmed

00:23:03.820 that he did

00:23:04.780 not pay the

00:23:05.460 great-nephew's

00:23:06.160 tuition for

00:23:06.740 any other year

00:23:07.460 at Randolph-Macon.

00:23:09.500 After some

00:23:10.340 time, Randolph-Macon

00:23:12.120 recommended the

00:23:12.920 great-nephew

00:23:13.520 attend a boarding

00:23:14.400 school in

00:23:14.940 Georgia for

00:23:15.460 one year.

00:23:16.980 Harlan offered

00:23:17.560 to pay the

00:23:18.080 first year of

00:23:18.660 tuition for

00:23:19.680 their great-nephew

00:23:20.420 at the Georgia

00:23:20.960 school, and

00:23:22.060 again, those

00:23:23.400 tuition payments

00:23:24.180 went directly

00:23:24.840 to the school.

00:23:26.500 By the next

00:23:27.080 year, by the

00:23:28.280 next school

00:23:28.680 year, 2009,

00:23:30.500 the Thomas'

00:23:31.120 great-nephew

00:23:31.720 returned to

00:23:32.420 Randolph-Macon.

00:23:33.740 He moved

00:23:34.140 back to

00:23:34.560 Savannah in

00:23:35.080 December 2009

00:23:36.280 after he

00:23:37.440 turned 18.

00:23:39.000 The Thomas'

00:23:40.100 love their

00:23:41.320 great-nephew.

00:23:42.520 It is

00:23:43.000 despicable that

00:23:43.740 the press has

00:23:44.320 dragged him

00:23:44.780 into their

00:23:45.180 effort to

00:23:45.720 smear Justice

00:23:46.440 Thomas.

00:23:46.780 This story

00:23:48.500 is another

00:23:48.900 attempt to

00:23:49.460 manufacture a

00:23:50.220 scandal about

00:23:50.840 Justice Thomas.

00:23:52.240 But let's be

00:23:53.040 clear about what

00:23:54.200 is supposedly

00:23:54.900 scandalous now.

00:23:56.780 Justice Thomas

00:23:57.420 and his wife

00:23:58.040 devoted 12

00:23:58.800 years of their

00:23:59.380 life to

00:24:00.360 taking in and

00:24:01.220 caring for a

00:24:01.980 beloved child

00:24:02.840 who was not

00:24:04.100 their own,

00:24:05.540 just as Justice

00:24:06.320 Thomas'

00:24:06.860 grandparents had

00:24:07.640 done for him.

00:24:08.800 They made many

00:24:09.820 personal and

00:24:10.480 financial sacrifices

00:24:11.520 to do this,

00:24:12.640 and along the

00:24:13.540 way, their

00:24:14.600 friends joined

00:24:15.240 them, and

00:24:16.000 doing everything

00:24:16.580 possible to

00:24:17.340 give this

00:24:17.720 child a

00:24:18.140 future.

00:24:19.440 Harlan Crowe's

00:24:20.100 tuition payments

00:24:20.880 made directly to

00:24:21.780 these schools on

00:24:22.520 behalf of

00:24:23.540 Justice Thomas'

00:24:24.320 great-nephew

00:24:25.000 did not

00:24:26.420 constitute a

00:24:27.480 reportable

00:24:28.060 gift.

00:24:28.560 Now, this is

00:24:28.980 where it's

00:24:29.280 getting into

00:24:29.680 the specific

00:24:30.180 legal charge,

00:24:31.300 because the

00:24:31.740 left is

00:24:32.140 claiming,

00:24:32.820 aha, you

00:24:33.560 did not

00:24:34.000 report this.

00:24:35.760 So listen to

00:24:36.520 the clear legal

00:24:37.400 analysis.

00:24:38.900 Justice Thomas

00:24:39.620 was not

00:24:40.840 required to

00:24:41.580 disclose the

00:24:42.240 tuition payments

00:24:43.080 made directly to

00:24:44.040 Randolph-Macon

00:24:44.720 and the

00:24:45.040 Georgia School

00:24:45.780 on behalf of

00:24:47.340 his great-nephew

00:24:48.180 because the

00:24:50.340 definition of

00:24:51.360 a, quote,

00:24:52.020 dependent child

00:24:53.460 under the

00:24:55.140 Ethics and

00:24:55.720 Government Act,

00:24:56.560 which is 5

00:24:57.140 U.S.C.

00:24:58.240 13101,

00:24:59.500 Section 2,

00:25:00.700 does not

00:25:01.520 include a

00:25:02.900 great-nephew.

00:25:04.440 It is

00:25:05.360 limited to

00:25:06.240 a, quote,

00:25:07.540 son,

00:25:09.060 daughter,

00:25:10.260 stepson,

00:25:11.360 or stepdaughter.

00:25:12.260 Justice

00:25:13.700 Thomas never

00:25:14.420 asked Harlan

00:25:15.080 Crow to

00:25:15.480 pay for

00:25:15.880 his great-nephew's

00:25:16.660 tuition,

00:25:18.020 and neither

00:25:18.380 Harlan Crow

00:25:19.080 nor his

00:25:19.540 company had

00:25:20.760 any business

00:25:21.340 before the

00:25:21.860 Supreme Court.

00:25:23.320 This malicious

00:25:24.220 story shows

00:25:25.140 nothing except

00:25:25.840 for the fact

00:25:26.360 that the

00:25:26.680 Thomases and

00:25:27.280 the Crows

00:25:27.720 are kind,

00:25:28.980 generous,

00:25:29.460 and loving

00:25:29.840 people who

00:25:31.160 tried to

00:25:31.640 help this

00:25:32.080 young man.

00:25:33.240 Now, there

00:25:34.240 are two

00:25:34.500 really important

00:25:35.100 things in there,

00:25:35.740 Ben.

00:25:36.440 One is the

00:25:37.120 personal story,

00:25:38.080 a story of

00:25:39.200 generosity,

00:25:39.800 a story of

00:25:40.740 caring for

00:25:41.480 a child in

00:25:42.220 need,

00:25:42.920 a child who

00:25:43.560 was not

00:25:43.980 their

00:25:44.240 responsibility,

00:25:45.060 was not

00:25:45.320 their child,

00:25:45.960 but they

00:25:46.280 stepped forward

00:25:46.960 for a dozen

00:25:47.580 years to

00:25:48.180 help their

00:25:48.580 great-nephew.

00:25:50.040 But secondly,

00:25:51.440 the whole

00:25:52.020 legal hook

00:25:52.740 is they

00:25:53.060 say,

00:25:53.380 well,

00:25:53.520 gosh,

00:25:54.960 Justice

00:25:55.280 Thomas should

00:25:55.920 have reported

00:25:56.420 this on his

00:25:57.020 financial disclosure.

00:25:58.540 The law is

00:25:59.500 clear.

00:26:00.500 You have to

00:26:01.460 disclose a

00:26:02.440 payment made

00:26:04.600 for a

00:26:05.500 dependent child,

00:26:06.920 and the

00:26:07.280 statute,

00:26:07.880 I want to

00:26:08.800 read this

00:26:09.880 again.

00:26:10.360 The statute

00:26:10.880 defines a

00:26:11.600 dependent

00:26:11.900 child as

00:26:12.760 quote,

00:26:13.840 the term

00:26:14.280 dependent

00:26:14.640 child means

00:26:15.520 when used

00:26:16.880 with respect

00:26:17.480 to any

00:26:18.020 reporting

00:26:18.500 individual,

00:26:19.880 any individual

00:26:20.700 who is a

00:26:21.340 son,

00:26:22.060 daughter,

00:26:23.180 stepson,

00:26:24.100 or stepdaughter.

00:26:25.640 By the way,

00:26:26.900 that same

00:26:27.640 definition doesn't

00:26:28.480 just apply to

00:26:29.100 judges,

00:26:29.740 it applies a

00:26:30.400 lot of other

00:26:30.800 places,

00:26:31.400 including to

00:26:32.140 Congress.

00:26:33.420 Do you know

00:26:34.080 right now

00:26:34.780 that if you,

00:26:36.080 Ben Ferguson,

00:26:36.800 decided you

00:26:37.460 wanted to

00:26:37.840 give a

00:26:38.120 million

00:26:38.500 dollars to

00:26:39.960 the great

00:26:40.500 nephew of

00:26:41.180 Chuck

00:26:41.440 Schumer,

00:26:42.700 Chuck Schumer

00:26:44.060 would not

00:26:44.460 have to

00:26:44.740 report that

00:26:45.300 because the

00:26:46.580 reporting

00:26:47.040 requirements do

00:26:47.940 not extend

00:26:48.540 to great

00:26:48.920 nephews.

00:26:49.460 Now,

00:26:49.720 I don't

00:26:50.460 know if

00:26:50.800 Schumer has

00:26:51.400 a great

00:26:51.820 nephew,

00:26:52.340 and I

00:26:52.660 wouldn't

00:26:52.900 advise giving

00:26:53.480 him a

00:26:53.700 million bucks

00:26:54.220 if he

00:26:54.580 does.

00:26:55.280 Yeah,

00:26:55.960 but the

00:26:56.520 principle is

00:26:57.100 very clear,

00:26:57.660 and the

00:26:58.000 rule is

00:26:58.360 very clear.

00:26:59.460 The rule,

00:27:00.060 it is

00:27:00.700 defined by

00:27:01.800 statute,

00:27:03.020 and in

00:27:04.000 this instance,

00:27:04.800 you've got

00:27:05.100 Harlan Crowe

00:27:05.780 has,

00:27:06.300 with Randolph

00:27:07.020 Macon,

00:27:07.400 has supported

00:27:07.820 the school

00:27:08.220 for years,

00:27:08.800 has paid

00:27:09.120 for scholarships

00:27:09.780 for years.

00:27:10.800 He knew

00:27:11.480 of a

00:27:12.760 child in

00:27:14.100 need who

00:27:14.620 could benefit

00:27:15.100 from the

00:27:15.540 school,

00:27:15.880 and he's

00:27:16.880 being painted

00:27:17.580 as a

00:27:18.500 villain for

00:27:19.980 caring for

00:27:21.300 a child

00:27:24.020 in need.

00:27:25.640 And this

00:27:26.460 was obviously

00:27:27.160 a pre-planned

00:27:28.720 orchestrated

00:27:29.560 smear campaign,

00:27:30.760 and they're

00:27:32.080 going after

00:27:32.780 Clarence Thomas.

00:27:33.520 I also

00:27:34.300 think there

00:27:34.800 are significant

00:27:35.520 racial undertones

00:27:36.540 here.

00:27:37.360 They've been

00:27:37.960 doing this,

00:27:38.700 you mentioned

00:27:39.260 this,

00:27:39.640 and what you

00:27:40.060 said,

00:27:40.360 and what we

00:27:40.640 played earlier,

00:27:41.720 but the

00:27:42.300 racial side

00:27:43.360 of this, 0.94

00:27:43.860 they hate

00:27:44.480 Clarence Thomas,

00:27:46.020 I think,

00:27:47.140 honestly,

00:27:47.720 because he's

00:27:48.660 an African-American

00:27:49.620 man,

00:27:50.700 who has not

00:27:51.680 gone to the

00:27:52.340 woke left,

00:27:53.560 and therefore

00:27:54.340 he's such a

00:27:55.060 big threat,

00:27:56.180 they want to

00:27:56.780 be done with

00:27:57.220 him for that

00:27:57.800 reason as

00:27:58.340 well.

00:27:58.680 It is

00:28:00.600 a qualitatively

00:28:01.760 different and

00:28:02.980 double standard.

00:28:04.280 Antonin Scalia

00:28:05.060 was incredibly

00:28:06.160 conservative,

00:28:06.980 and yet the

00:28:07.480 left didn't

00:28:08.200 loathe him.

00:28:09.460 William Rehnquist,

00:28:10.520 my former

00:28:11.300 boss,

00:28:11.760 was incredibly

00:28:12.520 conservative,

00:28:13.320 and yet the

00:28:13.980 left didn't

00:28:14.680 loathe him

00:28:15.520 the same way

00:28:17.380 that there is

00:28:18.220 a unique

00:28:18.940 vitriol that

00:28:20.920 gets piled on

00:28:22.160 Clarence Thomas.

00:28:23.100 In the left's

00:28:23.720 view, he is

00:28:25.160 not a black 1.00

00:28:25.640 man. 0.96

00:28:26.340 He doesn't

00:28:26.800 qualify as a 0.94

00:28:27.640 black man.

00:28:28.100 By the way,

00:28:28.640 in the left's

00:28:29.120 view, I'm

00:28:30.100 not Hispanic.

00:28:30.900 If you're

00:28:31.160 not a leftist,

00:28:31.900 you don't

00:28:32.180 get to be

00:28:32.600 Hispanic.

00:28:33.240 Look, we

00:28:34.440 did an earlier

00:28:35.200 podcast where

00:28:36.280 Don Lemon,

00:28:37.460 before he got

00:28:37.960 fired for 1.00

00:28:38.620 saying idiotic 1.00

00:28:39.380 things like 1.00

00:28:39.860 this, described

00:28:41.520 how Nikki

00:28:42.380 Haley was

00:28:43.000 past her

00:28:43.500 prime, and

00:28:44.060 he gave

00:28:44.560 nasty 0.97

00:28:45.960 misogynistic 0.97

00:28:46.840 statements about

00:28:48.120 a woman is 1.00

00:28:48.680 in her prime

00:28:49.240 in her 20s

00:28:49.860 or 30s,

00:28:50.520 which is 1.00

00:28:51.020 idiotic. 1.00

00:28:52.940 But in a 1.00

00:28:55.420 certain leftist

00:28:56.400 logic, it

00:28:57.120 made sense.

00:28:58.100 Because to

00:28:59.400 the hard

00:28:59.820 left, Nikki

00:29:01.300 Haley is

00:29:01.840 not a

00:29:02.180 woman.

00:29:02.780 You don't

00:29:03.280 count in

00:29:04.580 whatever category

00:29:05.480 you are,

00:29:06.240 whether it's

00:29:06.640 African-American

00:29:07.320 or Hispanic 0.77

00:29:08.080 or woman.

00:29:08.860 The left's

00:29:09.420 view is they

00:29:10.960 own you if

00:29:12.080 you're in

00:29:12.380 any one of

00:29:12.780 those categories,

00:29:13.540 and if you

00:29:14.240 dare disagree

00:29:15.320 from their

00:29:16.680 ideology, you

00:29:18.420 have lost

00:29:19.400 any right to

00:29:21.420 fall within

00:29:21.980 that category.

00:29:22.820 And so my

00:29:24.800 dad, who

00:29:25.420 came as a

00:29:26.300 penniless

00:29:27.000 immigrant from

00:29:27.600 Cuba, not

00:29:28.180 speaking English,

00:29:29.280 nope, not

00:29:29.860 Hispanic, doesn't 1.00

00:29:30.680 count.

00:29:32.120 That's their

00:29:32.880 view.

00:29:33.500 And Clarence

00:29:34.240 Thomas, I

00:29:36.220 don't know that

00:29:37.060 there is an

00:29:37.560 individual more

00:29:38.840 despised by the

00:29:40.440 left than Clarence

00:29:41.300 Thomas.

00:29:41.720 Donald Trump is

00:29:42.340 close, and it's a

00:29:43.640 different sort of

00:29:44.420 hatred, but they

00:29:46.280 might well be

00:29:46.900 running neck and

00:29:47.480 neck.

00:29:48.540 Yeah, lastly

00:29:49.300 on this, do you

00:29:50.540 believe they're

00:29:51.160 going to finally

00:29:52.200 at least hit the

00:29:53.600 pause button and

00:29:54.420 put this to bed, or

00:29:55.300 do you expect there

00:29:56.020 to be more attacks

00:29:56.920 in the coming

00:29:57.600 weeks?

00:29:58.320 More, more, more.

00:29:59.640 It is drip, drip,

00:30:00.940 drip.

00:30:01.300 It is funded.

00:30:02.140 I don't know who's

00:30:02.680 funding it, but

00:30:03.800 someone is putting

00:30:04.700 serious dollars

00:30:05.880 behind this attack.

00:30:07.140 This is a

00:30:08.080 political campaign.

00:30:09.320 It's, listen, you

00:30:10.560 got to stand up and

00:30:11.420 defend Justice

00:30:12.100 Thomas because he

00:30:12.960 can't.

00:30:14.200 Justices have no

00:30:15.220 ability, they

00:30:17.000 don't know.

00:30:17.740 how to fight PR

00:30:18.600 fights, they don't

00:30:19.280 have a press

00:30:20.120 secretary, they

00:30:20.780 don't have staff

00:30:21.440 to do it.

00:30:22.140 They're literally

00:30:22.720 just sitting there

00:30:23.580 like a piñata 0.91

00:30:24.400 getting whacked, and

00:30:26.080 the people whacking

00:30:27.120 the piñata are the

00:30:28.700 Democrats, are the

00:30:30.100 media, and all of

00:30:31.880 their cheerleaders, and

00:30:33.460 so it's got to be the

00:30:34.560 rest of us providing

00:30:35.560 the truth and the

00:30:36.640 facts to

00:30:37.180 counterbalance this

00:30:38.860 very coordinated and

00:30:40.720 very well-funded

00:30:41.460 attack.

00:30:42.460 Yeah, no doubt

00:30:43.080 about that.

00:30:44.020 Senator, I want to

00:30:44.640 also talk about

00:30:45.680 what's happening,

00:30:46.740 title, uh,

00:30:47.480 an important

00:30:48.620 statue is going

00:30:49.700 to expire at

00:30:51.580 the border.

00:30:52.140 We're now hearing

00:30:52.700 that we're going

00:30:53.580 to have an

00:30:54.640 incredible onslaught

00:30:55.660 of illegal immigrants 0.94

00:30:56.380 coming across the

00:30:57.280 border.

00:30:57.600 The National Guard,

00:30:58.460 which is something

00:30:58.860 that the Democrats

00:30:59.560 said they didn't

00:31:00.300 want to happen and

00:31:01.260 said it was

00:31:01.560 inhumane and racist

00:31:03.720 to send National

00:31:04.640 Guardsmen now to

00:31:05.540 the border.

00:31:05.980 That's exactly what

00:31:06.760 this White House is

00:31:07.500 doing.

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00:33:14.860 Senator, let's transition

00:33:16.340 quickly to the border.

00:33:19.000 This has become a big

00:33:21.040 issue with Title 42.

00:33:23.200 Some of the latest

00:33:23.980 statistics that have come

00:33:24.960 out have been brutal for

00:33:26.880 this administration when it

00:33:28.800 comes to Title 42.

00:33:29.740 almost 55,000 Border Patrol

00:33:32.400 apprehensions, 18,600 plus

00:33:35.600 known gotaways in a single

00:33:37.580 week at the border.

00:33:38.980 There are some of the

00:33:39.700 highest weekly totals that

00:33:41.140 we've ever seen, and Title

00:33:42.480 42 hasn't even dropped yet.

00:33:45.020 These are stunning numbers,

00:33:46.380 especially how many gotaways

00:33:49.200 there were in just a single

00:33:50.820 week.

00:33:51.780 You had agents that were

00:33:53.160 assaulted.

00:33:54.180 You had 54,951 apprehensions,

00:33:57.780 20,000 basically gotaways,

00:33:59.740 $714,000 seized, 101 pounds

00:34:03.400 of cocaine, 1,050 pounds of

00:34:06.140 marijuana, 2,721 pounds of

00:34:10.860 meth, 138 pounds of

00:34:13.820 fentanyl, 16 firearms, six

00:34:15.920 sex offenders in the group

00:34:17.700 that we did catch in one

00:34:18.680 week, seven gang members,

00:34:21.500 and that's what happened at

00:34:22.780 the border in one week.

00:34:24.560 And yet, this administration

00:34:26.460 continues to tell the lie that

00:34:27.800 the border is secure.

00:34:29.140 It's not.

00:34:31.200 You're exactly right, and the

00:34:33.400 stunning thing is, it's fixing

00:34:35.520 to get worse.

00:34:36.960 We have the worst illegal

00:34:38.040 immigration in the history of

00:34:39.520 our nation.

00:34:40.460 Six and a half million people

00:34:41.720 have crossed illegally under

00:34:43.380 Joe Biden.

00:34:44.120 All of that is a direct

00:34:45.240 political decision Joe Biden

00:34:46.960 and Kamala Harris made, and it

00:34:49.020 is about to get worse.

00:34:50.100 On Thursday of this week, May

00:34:51.880 11th, the administration is

00:34:54.860 going to lose the authority to

00:34:56.720 deport people under Title 42.

00:34:58.440 Title 42 was essentially the

00:35:00.460 only legal basis under which

00:35:02.020 they were deporting anyone, so

00:35:03.260 now it is truly going to be

00:35:05.440 Katie bar the door. 1.00

00:35:06.460 Anyone who crosses, guess what? 0.97

00:35:08.020 Joe Biden is your travel agent.

00:35:10.440 Pick a city and come on in, and

00:35:12.820 you know what?

00:35:13.580 It is so bad that even the

00:35:16.700 corrupt corporate media is

00:35:18.740 forced to acknowledge it.

00:35:20.640 Listen to Face the Nation

00:35:23.380 describing the crisis that Joe

00:35:26.100 Biden has created and what's

00:35:27.760 going to happen when Title 42 is

00:35:30.040 lifted.

00:35:31.000 Listen.

00:35:31.220 Margaret, the clock is ticking

00:35:34.460 down on an end to Title 42,

00:35:36.740 another flashpoint in the

00:35:38.080 immigration debate, but here on

00:35:39.720 the U.S.-Mexico border, it's not

00:35:41.800 just a policy change, it's the

00:35:43.560 front lines of a humanitarian

00:35:44.880 crisis.

00:35:46.520 In South Texas, the Department of

00:35:48.580 Homeland Security says they've

00:35:50.040 encountered an influx of migrants

00:35:51.920 ahead of Title 42's end, driven

00:35:54.660 by an uptick in Venezuelan

00:35:56.460 nationals.

00:35:57.720 Still, others wait in Mexico,

00:35:59.380 camped along the Rio Grande

00:36:01.020 River.

00:36:02.160 New Biden administration

00:36:03.440 guidelines that kick in after

00:36:05.260 May 11th promise more

00:36:06.640 consequences, like a one-way

00:36:08.740 ticket on ice air.

00:36:10.720 We watched as 133 migrants, 1.00

00:36:13.600 hands and feet shackled, boarded

00:36:15.480 a plane back to Guatemala

00:36:16.860 Friday.

00:36:18.320 In Laredo, Texas, this

00:36:23.000 emergency shelter is a welcome

00:36:25.000 reprieve for many, like 29-year-old

00:36:27.400 Margarita Hebreu, who

00:36:29.100 crossed the U.S.-Mexico border

00:36:30.900 pregnant with her five- and

00:36:32.720 three-year-old daughters.

00:36:34.300 Back at home in Venezuela, she 1.00

00:36:35.720 says there is nothing.

00:36:38.740 The mayor of Laredo has declared

00:36:40.440 a citywide emergency.

00:36:42.680 The disaster is an imminent

00:36:44.280 disaster.

00:36:44.960 It may not be here right now, but

00:36:46.900 it's like a hurricane that's

00:36:48.020 coming.

00:36:48.340 You board up before the

00:36:49.320 hurricane.

00:36:50.260 With this week's policy change,

00:36:52.320 U.S.

00:36:52.660 officials expect as many as 10,000

00:36:55.360 migrants a day to traverse the U.S.-Mexico 0.99

00:36:57.660 border at crossings like the one

00:36:59.800 behind me.

00:37:01.220 Margaret?

00:37:02.280 I mean, Senator, you listen to

00:37:03.660 this, and they're all saying it,

00:37:05.240 they're all calling it a pandemic

00:37:07.280 legislation that is going to

00:37:10.440 expire and then explode into

00:37:13.240 another type of pandemic, in

00:37:14.660 essence.

00:37:16.240 It is when even CBS calls it a

00:37:20.720 humanitarian disaster.

00:37:22.680 That tells you something.

00:37:24.040 When even CBS is saying what the

00:37:27.200 Biden administration is doing is

00:37:29.140 going to produce 10,000 people a

00:37:31.840 day.

00:37:32.220 And I got to say, look, they aired

00:37:33.820 that on the Sunday show on Face the

00:37:36.740 Nation, the images.

00:37:37.980 You see people just homeless, just

00:37:41.220 gathered in the streets.

00:37:42.360 It is a crisis in South Texas.

00:37:45.440 It is a crisis that is overwhelming.

00:37:50.200 It's overwhelming the hospitals.

00:37:51.880 It's overwhelming the jails.

00:37:53.040 It's overwhelming the schools.

00:37:54.300 It's overwhelming the communities.

00:37:56.360 The state of emergency has been

00:37:57.260 declared in El Paso.

00:37:58.320 I mean, that's not normal.

00:38:00.340 It is.

00:38:01.660 There's a state of emergency in

00:38:02.980 El Paso.

00:38:03.600 There's a state of emergency in

00:38:04.960 Laredo.

00:38:06.160 There are states of emergencies up

00:38:09.740 and down our southern border.

00:38:11.140 And the cause of the the emergency

00:38:14.200 is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and

00:38:17.960 congressional Democrats.

00:38:19.780 And not only do they affirmatively

00:38:21.880 want this emergency to exist, they

00:38:24.260 want it to be worse.

00:38:26.340 And they're deliberately making

00:38:27.580 decisions to make it worse.

00:38:29.260 Well, one other question on this.

00:38:31.420 Is there going to be hell to pay at

00:38:33.520 some point for this deliberate

00:38:36.060 decision to have an open border

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00:40:05.880 Senator, is there going to be any

00:40:07.880 accountability?

00:40:08.700 How many illegal immigrants is it going 1.00

00:40:10.100 to take?

00:40:10.860 How many criminals is it going to take

00:40:12.460 coming across the border for

00:40:14.620 Mayorkas? 0.99

00:40:15.340 And he's still out there lying to the

00:40:17.320 American people.

00:40:19.000 Mayorkas was at the border not long 1.00

00:40:21.020 ago, or his definition of the border,

00:40:23.260 saying this.

00:40:24.500 The border is not open.

00:40:26.420 It has not been open.

00:40:27.880 And it will not be open subsequent to

00:40:30.640 May 11th.

00:40:31.920 That's just not true.

00:40:33.180 We know that he was lying then.

00:40:34.800 We know he's lying now.

00:40:36.180 More than 6.3, now probably 6.4 million

00:40:38.540 illegal immigrants have crossed the 1.00

00:40:39.800 border since Biden took office.

00:40:41.340 We gave those stats a moment ago.

00:40:42.820 What happened in just one week?

00:40:45.520 Well, within the Biden administration,

00:40:47.440 there are zero consequences for lying.

00:40:49.940 Mayorkas lies on a daily basis. 0.78

00:40:52.040 Corrine Jean-Pierre said that illegal

00:40:54.880 immigrants, illegal immigration had

00:40:57.060 dropped 90 percent under Joe Biden.

00:40:59.580 That's such a wild, bald-faced lie.

00:41:02.380 I actually wonder if the reporters

00:41:04.180 sitting in the press briefing room

00:41:05.600 moved because they were afraid lightning

00:41:07.200 was going to strike her as she was

00:41:08.440 talking.

00:41:09.380 And she does that on a daily basis. 0.99

00:41:12.300 And here's what we've learned.

00:41:14.480 Number one, there are no penalties for

00:41:16.020 lying in the Biden administration.

00:41:17.460 But number two, you get rewarded.

00:41:18.660 The only reasonable inference is it is

00:41:22.560 their job to lie.

00:41:24.820 Like Baghdad Bob, Saddam Hussein's 0.98

00:41:27.940 lying press spokesperson, Mayorkas and

00:41:31.780 Corrine Jean-Pierre are sent out every

00:41:34.020 day with the instructions, go lie because

00:41:37.620 Joe Biden wants you to lie, because the

00:41:40.060 Democrats in Congress want you to lie.

00:41:41.900 And they're counting on the dishonest

00:41:45.260 corporate media not to call them on their

00:41:47.660 lies. Now, there are moments where there

00:41:49.760 are cracks in the facade and you get

00:41:51.280 things like face the nation actually

00:41:52.800 admitting there's a humanitarian crisis

00:41:55.160 these guys have caused.

00:41:56.280 Now, mind you, although CBS acknowledged

00:42:00.120 that they didn't point out that every word

00:42:01.960 that comes out of the White House

00:42:03.420 spokespeople's mouths is a lie, that

00:42:06.780 there's still no consequences.

00:42:09.460 You ask will be the consequences to pay

00:42:11.460 to two groups will determine that.

00:42:13.880 Number one, the House of Representatives,

00:42:16.340 as you know, I believe we should impeach

00:42:18.180 Alejandro Mayorkas.

00:42:19.440 I hope they do exactly that.

00:42:21.460 Number two, the American people.

00:42:23.720 I think the real accountability is going

00:42:25.480 to be in November of next year.

00:42:27.400 And I hope the American people say enough

00:42:29.660 is enough and throw the bums out, throw 1.00

00:42:32.060 Joe Biden out of the White House and 0.59

00:42:34.180 throw Democrats out of the Senate and the

00:42:36.240 House and give us Republican majorities in

00:42:38.120 both.

00:42:38.680 If we have a Republican president and a

00:42:40.600 Republican Senate and a Republican House,

00:42:42.660 we can solve this problem.

00:42:44.080 We can do it fast and we know we can do

00:42:46.600 that because we did it before.

00:42:49.240 In 2020, the last year of the Trump

00:42:51.780 presidency, we had the lowest rate of

00:42:54.060 illegal immigration in 45 years.

00:42:56.780 We can do it again.

00:42:58.720 And if the American people want this

00:43:01.320 insanity stopped, the way to get there is

00:43:05.200 a big, big win next November.

00:43:07.640 Yeah, great point.

00:43:08.500 Don't forget on Wednesday, everybody, we're

00:43:10.460 going to have Jim Jordan's our special

00:43:12.080 guest doing a very deep dive into the

00:43:14.680 Biden crime family and what all they are

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - May 08, 2023

Panic Over Hunter Biden, plus Clarence Thomas Smear and with Title 42 Expiring, Border Will Get Even Worse

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