WINNING: Polls Surge for Trump as Illegal Border Crossings PLUMMET & More Government Waste Exposed
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Ted Cruz and Ben Fergusons discuss the surge in support for Donald Trump's immigration plan, the impact of the border patrol agents on illegal immigration and border security efforts, and the new poll that shows Americans are not tired of winning yet.
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Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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Senator, I got to say there's some polling numbers that have come out that are shocking
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to even me and many other conservatives of just how big of a victory the issues have become for
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Well, that's exactly right. But let me stop by saying, you know, Friday's podcast for the
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first time ever. We had to cancel the podcast because you were sick. And so we did a rerun
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of our Christmas Day podcast of my favorite movies because you were in bed, curled up,
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hacking up a lung. So let me ask you a couple of days later, how are you feeling?
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I survived. I have not been. I think I texted you. I have not been that sick in 25 years.
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It was four days in a row of 103 fever from the flu. So this year's flu is no joke. If you get it,
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God be with you because I rarely miss a show and power through and there was no way I could do
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the show. So thanks, you guys, for bearing with me on Friday.
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Well, I hope you enjoyed the movie recommendations. But I felt bad. I was ready to go. But Ben was
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miserable and unconscious. So I'm glad to have you back. Welcome back.
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And, you know, and you're still hurting a little bit. But but but but I'm glad if we have a moment
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in the pause pod where things pause, it will be because he's still coughing up a lung. But
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it's very accurate. And it's moments like this. I'm glad that some of these episodes we do remotely
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because no offense, but I don't really want you coughing on me right now. That's also very accurate.
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There you go. That that would be all my years in med school. All right. So let's talk about the
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substance because we had a lot to talk about. Number one, as you pointed out, we're seeing a
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sea change in this country. We're one month into the Trump presidency. And I got to say, the polling
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numbers, the American people are embracing a common sense conservative agenda. And the media,
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the corporate media, they don't know what to do with it. And the Democrats, they don't know what to
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do with it. Now, part of it is because we're seeing real results. And one of the things that
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we're going to talk about today are the incredible results we're seeing on the border. Look, I said
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last year over and over again, we're going to secure the border and it's not going to take a year. It's
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not going to take six months. It is going to happen on January 20th. Well, I'll tell you what,
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the numbers have backed that up. We have seen the illegal immigration plummet. We're going to break
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that down for you and give you the facts and figures on that. And then finally, Doge, Doge every day
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continues to be breathtaking, uncovering more and more government waste. And to watch the Democrats
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run around like chickens with their heads cut off, defending all this nonsense is really astonishing.
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Yet, you know, I got to say, the president asked a while ago, he said, we're going to win so much,
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you're going to get tired of winning. I got to tell you, Ben, right now, I'm not tired of winning.
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Yeah. And the majority of Americans in this new poll that we're mentioning, yeah,
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So Senator, there's certain points where the President has been pushing different agenda items
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and the media takes the opportunity to really come down on him and basically do what they've
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done for years, which is, well, you Americans don't want to be a part of this. And now the poll
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numbers are showing that the media is having virtually no influence on the public and the public
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is backing Trump now more than ever. Well, it turns out common sense is a lot more common than
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the media was telling us. And I want you to listen to this clip on ABC with Jonathan Carl,
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and he's interviewing Akeem Jeffries. And you need to picture this. Akeem Jeffries is the
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leader of the Democrats in the House. Jonathan Carl is going to ask him about the polling
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numbers, talking about how the American people are supporting the Trump agenda, the common sense
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conservative agenda in big numbers. And at the end of it, Jeffries has no answer whatsoever. So
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listen, this is not me. This is not you. This is ABC News talking about where the American people are
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right now. Donald Trump's favorability rating is actually higher than it ever was the first time
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around. Let me ask you, a recent poll by Marquette looked at several of the things that he has done
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or says that he is going to do, and 63 percent favor federal government's recognition of only
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two sexes. 60 percent favor deporting immigrants who entered the United States illegally. 60 percent
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favor expanding oil and gas production. 59 percent favor declaring an emergency at the southern
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border. Is there anything you are seeing that Trump is doing that you are in favor of that you think is
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the right thing? Let me say, as it relates to all of those issues, we're just at the beginning.
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We're just at the beginning. So that's my answer. And Jonathan Karl's face was actually hilarious
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there because you go back. No, no, no. Hakeem Jeffries face was funnier. Yeah, that's true.
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Because when when Karl asks him, Jeffries is shocked and astonished. He goes through the American
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people. 60 plus percent are agreeing with Trump on X, Y, Z, all these issues. Is there anything he's
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doing that's right? Now, if you're the leader of the Democrats in the House, what the hell do you say
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about that? Like like like he had no response other than, well, it's just the beginning. I'm hoping
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something will go bad and then we'll cheer that. Like it is. 63 percent favor the government
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recognizing only two sexes. Those are not close numbers. 63 percent is a super majority any way you
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look at it. 60 percent favor deporting illegals, illegal aliens. 60 percent favor expanding oil and
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gas production. 59 percent favor declaring an emergency on the southern border. Those are
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compelling numbers. And it's an example of look, number one. Can we talk poll numbers just for a
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second so people understand in politics? Like when when I was at the Bush administration, we were on the
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campaign. If you had a poll on something we wanted that was above 53 percent, that was like a home
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run. If you were at 55 percent or above, it was like a mandate. I have not seen 60 percent polls like
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these in decades. Have you on these types of issues? And to see ABC reporting on it. And you're right.
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Jonathan Karl is very dismayed to be reporting on it. He's shaking his head. But but Akeem Jeffries looks
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like he's filming a hostage video. He's just terrified. Why are you asking me this? Because
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he doesn't want to say, no, I don't agree with Trump on anything, because when you're on the wrong
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side of a bunch of 60 40 issues, that's a recipe to lose elections. But he doesn't want to say, yes,
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I agree with Trump on anything because his base hates Trump so much they'll lose their mind and go
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nuts. So all he can say is, well, it's just the beginning. I hope things will go wrong. And then
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then we can celebrate the things are going wrong. It is astounding, astonishing, I should say, that
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this is now where we are. But this turns into what I call a mandate, a super mandate. And it just means
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keep going, Trump. Keep going, Republicans. What does this do to some of your colleagues who maybe
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didn't want to go along with some of these types of things when they see these poll numbers? Is this
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going to make it easier to get things done in Congress as well? I would hope so.
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Well, it certainly should. And by the way, I'll tell you, historically, for the last four years,
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every Democrat voted on the wrong side of these issues on the question of are there two sexes,
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male and female, every single Democrat in the Senate voted no over and over and over again on
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the question of deporting illegals. Every Democrat in the Senate voted no over and over and over again
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on the question of more oil and gas exploration. Virtually every Democrat, actually, Joe Manchin
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would vote yes. Occasionally, Joe Manchin isn't there anymore. So every Democrat that remains in
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the Senate has voted no over and over and over again on the question of declaring an emergency
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on the southern border. Again, every Democrat voted no. And so the Democrat Party, listen,
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they're in a crisis. If you're on the wrong side of 60, 40 issues across the board,
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well, that's how you get the kind of election we had in November. That's how you get
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a president elected with more than 300 electoral votes. That's how you get a president who of the
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seven swing states wins all seven. That's how you get a Republican Senate and a Republican House,
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because the Democrats on the issues, they're not listening to the American people. They're listening
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to the crazy fringe. And I don't see a whole lot of indication that they're moving. You know, it's
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a fascinating question is, are there Democrats in the party who say, gosh, we've gotten so far out
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of the mainstream. We're really listening to just a fringe. Let's get back to the middle.
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There are one or two people saying that. But I got to say, all right, I want you to listen to James
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Carville. James Carville is a Democrat through and through. Listen to what James Carville had to say
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about his party just, just completely getting so extreme that they leave the American people behind.
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He's really upset about it. Here are the words Carville is quoted online as saying, we don't
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have the audio, but we have the words. And look, I'll give a warning. Carville's language is always
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colorful and it is here, but here's how he's quoted. Quote, I dedicated the best years of my effing
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life to this party only to see it taken over by a bunch of stupid MFers. Everything's gone to S.
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By the way, he did not abbreviate any of those. And if you look at the tweet that is particularly
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circulating online, it says Carville is especially livid following the DNC leadership election,
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reportedly saying, quote, who are these people? This David Hogg guy and that other sissy,
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referring to Malcolm Kenyatta, come out of the GD left field. Well, there goes the mail vote forever.
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Thanks, guys. We're effed and we deserve it. That's James Carville's assessment of where the
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Democrat Party is right now. Based on the poll numbers that we're seeing, he's not far off,
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by the way, from reality. I mean, if he's an honest broker, I have known James for years,
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you have as well. Like he's this is the assessment. I think he's spot on with where the Democratic Party
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is. And they still don't seem to understand where that this is how far they are away from
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the American people. That's a blessing in disguise for us. Yeah, they are not listening to reality.
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But but look, let's look at the facts. Let's take the facts. All right. Here's a headline from the New
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York Post just a couple of days ago. Quote, illegal border crossings hit record low after Trump's swift
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crackdown and could be on track for levels not seen in 60 years. Wow. The numbers are stunning. So far
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in February, about 359 illegal migrants per day have been caught across the entire southern border down
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more than 90 percent, 9-0 from February 2024, according to leaked customs and border protection
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data. That puts the U.S. on track to have the lowest monthly border crossings in at least 25 years.
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If the trend continues, the number of illegal migrants coming into the U.S. could hit a level
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not seen since 1968, nearly 60 years ago. Here's a quote from Mark Ricorian, who runs the Center for
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Immigration Studies. It's the lowest the U.S. has seen, quote, in almost a lifetime. Quote, if you kind of
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break down the numbers, divide them by 365, we hadn't had numbers this low since the 1960s. So we're talking
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60-year lows if it's sustained, obviously. The CPP data shows that just 3,953 illegal migrants have been
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caught this month through February 11th. If that trend continues through the month, that would put the
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February boarding crossings at roughly 10,000, which is a number that hasn't been seen since CPP began
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tracking month-to-month data in 1999. 10,000. Under Biden, we were getting 10,000 a day. We're on track
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for that to be the total monthly traffic, and that's just in the very first month. It's a momentum thing
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now, right? I mean, you've got to feel it, I'm sure, on Capitol Hill, which is we've just gotten
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started. The American people are behind us, and we're recruiting a bigger audience that's cheering
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this on each and every day. Well, look, this election, President Trump and Republicans in the
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Senate and House promised the American people real results. And you look at what was promised.
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Number one, we promised we are going to secure the border. And remember, repeatedly, Joe Biden said,
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first of all, he said the border is secure. He said it over and over and over again. People knew
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that was a lie. And then he said, well, it's impossible to fix it. Look, it's up to Congress.
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I want you to listen to this clip from the National Border Patrol Council Vice President
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talking about Biden lying to the American people on this topic. Give a listen.
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You know, it's interesting because down on the southern border, there has also been
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a dramatic reduction in the number of people who are coming across the border. I want to put a call
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for number four here. This is a senior DHS official talking about that, Chris. Delivering consequences
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has results. Illegal crossings are down. Godaways are down. Criminal prosecutions are on the rise.
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Daily reports of large groups in Mexico, Guatemala, turning back south and surrendering to
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authorities, requesting to go home. And we have only just begun policy matters. President Biden told
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us repeatedly, Chris, that he had basically done all he could and that it was up to Congress to do
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more. What's happened in the last two and a half weeks would seem to suggest that Biden was just
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gaslighting everybody. Yeah, you know, it's unfortunate. I think, yeah, I don't know. I don't
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know who he thought he was fooling. I mean, it darn sure wasn't us. We knew what was going on the
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whole time. And you're right. The apprehension numbers have have slown to a crawl. Last night,
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I was actually working the river and you have the Mexican military patrolling their northern
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border. So that that slows down a lot of traffic coming our way. So things have changed a great
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deal. And this president has proven that he's a man of his word and and can get it done. He actually
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gave President Biden, then President Biden, the roadmap to do it. He just failed to fail to do it.
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There it is. Failed to do it. Right. That's what it boils down to. Well, and it was deliberate. It was
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a decision. And listen, Biden knew he was lying to the American people. Kamala Harris knew she was
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lying to the American people. Corrine Jean-Pierre knew she was lying to the American people. Chuck
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Schumer knew he was lying to the American people. Every Democrat in the Senate and the House, they knew
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they were lying to the American people. And it's because they elevated politics above their basic job
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of representing their constituents and protecting them. And listen,
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reasonable people can disagree, say, on the right level of legal immigration. Some people might say
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we should allow more legal immigration. Other people might say we should allow less. That's a
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discussion reasonable and rational people can have. Let me ask you something. Seriously, Ben,
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imagine for a second. You're a Democrat strategist. So imagine you're a transgender witch
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and you are a complete lunatic and you have no reason. Even so, you presumably want your team to
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win. I mean, one would think that would be sort of the basics if you're running a campaign.
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Sure. Explain to me how a political party gets so far away from common sense in the American people
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that they decide let's release multiple child rapists that raping kids. You know, apparently
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our constituents want child rapists in our community. And if you think, OK, come on, Ted,
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that's a little extreme. The Democrats are not doing this. I want you to listen about Bill Malugin.
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Bill Malugin is the best immigration reporter in the country with Fox News. I want you to listen to
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this clip because this is exactly what the Democrat Party has been doing. Give a listen.
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Well, Dana, it's hard to believe there are any jurisdictions out there that wouldn't cooperate
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with ICE when it comes to illegal aliens charged with forcibly raping children. But in Massachusetts,
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it's just routine. Take a look at this case. ICE Boston just announcing they arrested this
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Guatemalan illegal alien charged in Massachusetts with three counts of aggravated child rape and three
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counts of forcible rape of a child. So the question is, why was he on the streets, right? Well,
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ICE says their detainer request on him was ignored by the Essex County Superior Court due to sanctuary
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policy. The locals released him into the community on bail without any notice to ICE. In a statement,
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the director of ICE Boston says in part, quote, Jose Fernando Perez has been charged with some
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horrific crimes against a minor in our commonwealth. He is exactly the type of alien we are targeting with
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our worst first policy. He posed a significant danger to the children of Massachusetts, and we will not
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tolerate such a threat to our community. ICE Boston also announcing the arrest of this Turkish illegal
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alien charged in Massachusetts with assault and battery against an intellectually disabled person
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and witness intimidation. But ICE says their detainer on him was also ignored by the sanctuary city of
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Somerville. He had also been released into the public. Elsewhere around the U.S., ICE Seattle arrested
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this Salvadoran illegal alien wanted in his home country for aggravated homicide. Here in Los Angeles,
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ICE arrested this Guatemalan illegal alien charged with sexual assault and rape with a gun. And in
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Colorado, the DEA announced their top 10 arrests of illegal immigrants in recent days, including several
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affiliated with Trendy Aragua and others with egregious crimes like kidnapping, child sexual assault,
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and fentanyl trafficking. And Dana, I was talking to a law enforcement source in Massachusetts about the
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child rape case that I referenced. And I asked, like, there's got to be some sort of a catch here,
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right? Forget about cooperating with ICE. How does somebody charged with so many counts of aggravated,
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forcible child rape even get released on bail in the first place? The response I got was, quote,
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welcome to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I'll send it back to you.
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Well, they're finally on their way out. Thanks, Bill.
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Welcome to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. That's how much they hate Donald Trump. They
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don't care about these rapists running around among us. It really is shocking. And understand
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what is being reported there, which is that in Massachusetts, but also you're seeing it in
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Seattle, also you're seeing it in Colorado and across the country. You have Democrats who have
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people who are violent child rapists, who are violently, horribly raping little children.
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And number one, these Democrats are releasing these child rapists. Now, these child rapists are
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illegal immigrants. They could be deported. But their politics of we want as many illegal immigrants as
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possible is more important than any sort of common sense of let's stop.
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Let's stop horrible crimes against vulnerable kids. You know, there's a quote from Friedrich Nietzsche
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in Beyond Good and Evil, which I think is really on point here. And it is, quote,
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there is a point in the history of society when it becomes so pathologically soft and tender
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that among other things, it sides even with those who harm it, criminals. And it does this quite
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seriously and honestly. Punishing somehow seems unfair to it. And it is certain that imagining
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punishment and being supposed to punish hurts it, arouses fear in it. Is it not enough to render him
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undangerous? Why still punish? Punishing itself is terrible. With this question, herd morality,
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the morality of timidity draws its ultimate consequence.
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You say that and you look at where we are. I still feel like we're in a position as Democrats
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refuse to move that more and more Americans, regardless of that they consider themselves
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an independent or a Democrat or Republican, are just looking at this issue as a national security
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issue, a local community safety issue. And that that's why this the support for it is so high.
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We talked about in those poll numbers. I think that's right. Look, any, you know,
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a lot of people, most many normal people are not terribly political. They're they're focused on
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their family and their lives. But but if you ask anyone who's not a moron or a radical,
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do you want child rapist released in your community? The answer is no. If you ask most normal people,
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should we secure the border? They'll say yes. If you ask most normal people, how many sexes are
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there? They're going to say two. Now, we've lived in a world where people were afraid to say there
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were two sexes because the left, they're so hectoring there. They're so just a few years ago,
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they would silence you. They would cancel you that that people were afraid to say up was up and down
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to your podcasts. Let's go to Doge for a second and give an update there because they're finding the
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crazy each and every day. They are continuing to find wasteful spending at numbers that I couldn't
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have imagined. I think a lot of people still can't believe how bad it is. A great example of that is
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they discovered 1.9 billion, not million, 1.9 billion in HUD money that was, quote, misplaced by
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the Biden administration this last week. Yeah, they just simply lost it. And so Elon Musk and also
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Scott Turner, the new new secretary of HUD, they're going to go try to try to get that back. You look
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at the EPA. The EPA says he's going to seek the return of $20 billion in clean energy grants awarded
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by Biden. And I got to say, you know, we played on last week's pod reporters saying, well, gosh,
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we want evidence. Show us the evidence. Well, here are a few examples of what Doge has already discovered.
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$36,126 from USCIS for, quote, diversity, equity, and inclusion and accessibility training for
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leadership and supervisors who manage teams. $2.86 million for, quote, a public relations firm
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contract for the Council for Inclusive Innovation at the Patent Office, which is to make sure women
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and minorities were no longer, quote, underrepresented as inventors and patentees. That's $2.86 million.
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$35,338.58 for, quote, Sri Lankan climate change mitigation, adaptation, and resilience coordinator
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services. You know who paid that? The U.S. Forest Service. What the hell is the U.S. Forest Service
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doing funding climate grants in Sri Lanka? It's a question everybody's asking. And you look at Doge
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and how this continues to expand. They're now saying they don't think they're going to be able to find
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all the waste. It could take a year or a year and a half just to get through the waste. Is that a number
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that shocks you? No. Look, I mean, there's massive waste. And I got to say, it is striking to see
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Democrats in Congress. They're defending all of it. I have not seen a single Democrat senator say
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of any of this stuff, OK, that's too much. I'm glad we're getting rid of it. Now, I will say it is
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fairly striking. Give a listen to the guys at Pod Save America, which are, you know, the leftist bros
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admitting that Doge is doing some real good and feeling some chagrin. Give a listen to this.
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And also, as much as I want to throw all of Trump's campaign promises in his face,
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like the price of eggs is not down, you have not ended the war in Ukraine, etc., etc. You said you'd
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do it in 24 hours. I think most voters get that it was a shtick and they're going to give him some
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time to actually get things done. Trump is like he is moving so fast. They are doing a lot. It's not
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just the perception of it. They hit the ground running in a serious way. It's like genuinely
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impressive, impressive in a dark and sinister way. But it's nonetheless impressive. And if
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you're turning on the news every day and hearing about all these different things Trump is doing
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and all the different criticisms coming out of it, you may not like all of it. But like in comparison
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to how people felt about Joe Biden being basically absent, I imagine for a lot of people, it's a
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welcome change. The energy and he's signing things and he's affecting all that. I think that is
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playing extraordinarily well. I know. You don't want to seem like you're opposed to government
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efficiency. But obviously now they're just rampaging through like the government Venmo
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and shutting off. Yeah. I'm not saying they're wrong. I'm just lamenting our situation.
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Me too. No, I love it. I felt the same way because I've seen the messaging memos and it's
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like, you know, the young people, Gen Z, they like Doge and what Elon's doing because, you
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know, they don't see they see government as sclerotic and inefficient and they like the
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move fast and break things ethos and they want to get stuff done and they like the results.
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And it's like, yeah, we, yes, of course, we all want that. We all know the government
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is slow. We all know the government can be inefficient. We all know that the bureaucracy
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can be bloated. We all worked in the White House. We tried to reorganize the government.
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We tried to find efficiency. It's hard to do. And honestly, some of this is pretty annoying
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because it's some of the stuff we should have done. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you could
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do some of this. You just got to talk Gen Z to him. You're like, I could dig these Doja
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cats. Oh my God. That was horrible. I mean, I can't say that they're wrong, but I think
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they're, they're at the point where they're like, we got to tell the truth. All right,
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Ben, the astonishing thing is pod save America makes more sense than any Democrat in the
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U S Congress. I have not heard a single Democrat saying that, that gosh, this spending is, is
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egregious. No, I will, we'll say you notice they sort of reflexively tossed out egg prices.
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Yeah. Let me give you a couple of stats that that'll blow you away in the 25 days since Trump's
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inauguration. How many times do you think CNN has mentioned egg prices? Oh, it's got to be,
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I mean, dozens and dozens. 45. Wow. All right. In the 25 days before the inauguration,
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how many times do you think CNN mentioned egg prices? Five or less. Zero. Wow. Zero. All right.
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How about MSNBC? Surely they're more balanced. In the 25 days since Trump's inauguration,
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how many times do they mentioned, mentioned egg prices? 30, 80. Wow. All right. How about the 25
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days before inauguration? How many times do they mention it? I'm going to go with zero. Are we
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going to go with zero? One, one. I'll give them credit. It's, it's 80 to one. And, and, and it's
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just, listen, suddenly they discovered, by the way, eggs were expensive before Trump was sworn in.
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And you know, we did have avian flu and they, they, they like slaughtered a whole bunch of
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chickens. So that is a problem because you know, I, I'm, I am not, uh, uh, an avian biologist,
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but I'm pretty sure you need chickens to get eggs. So it is fascinating to see we're securing the
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border. We're cutting down massive government waste. We're getting wins, wins, wins. And the
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one thing the media has discovered is to start screaming, eggs are expensive, eggs are expensive,
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as if they apparently had never noticed it until Donald Trump, uh, took the oath of office.
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Yeah. I think the American people are paying a lot closer attention to all of this. That's
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why it's not working on them. And I also think the American people just don't trust the media
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anymore. It's going to be interesting to see how long that lasts. Cause if it keeps going
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