Western Standard - October 03, 2026


CORY MORGAN SHOW: The Kamloops child burial issue is a hoax!

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00:00:00.000 Good day.
00:00:27.900 happy truth and reconciliation day i'm sure you're all uh busy preparing for your annual tradition
00:00:35.100 of a truth and reconciliation day dinner with the family where you'll get together and bow your
00:00:40.780 heads in shame over the terrible things prior generations did to other prior generations
00:00:45.900 allegedly right or not i know for most of us it's just another bloody day those of us in the private
00:00:51.660 sector you know the real world we don't get this day off with pay but it was a nice paid holiday 0.79
00:00:57.180 created by our former prime minister justin trudeau who's prancing around with uh katie
00:01:02.540 perry these days whatever i'd rather he was there than in the house of commons any longer
00:01:08.380 uh good to see you guys checking in on the comments and uh i do appreciate that you know
00:01:14.460 just reminds me that there's really people on the other end of the camera i'm not just talking to
00:01:17.500 myself like i often do and be sure you know send comments or discuss things back and forth with
00:01:23.420 each other in a little while i'm gonna have a fellow on young man named reed salmon he's been
00:01:27.660 doing great work actually going on to the reserves and rescuing animals in distress which you know
00:01:33.580 hey i love it people who get off their butts and do something rather than just talk about it
00:01:37.740 uh it's nice to see it's refreshing it should be a good conversation of course his actions have 0.84
00:01:43.820 upset the status quo people who just don't feel anything's changed and we should just leave dogs
00:01:47.740 to suffer all right let me talk a little more about this day the creation of national day for
00:01:54.140 truth and reconciliation is a federal statutory holiday as i said it was one of justin trudeau's
00:01:58.940 most cynical creations as the covet 19 lockdowns wreaked social and economic havoc across the
00:02:04.460 country trudeau went on a virtue signaling campaign in response to the false reports of
00:02:09.340 children having been buried at the former kamloops indian residential school site so trudeau lowered
00:02:14.700 the canadian flags for an unprecedented six months then he put on an oscar-worthy performance of
00:02:19.180 contrition while placing a teddy bear on the grave of a child at an established cemetery then he capped
00:02:24.620 it off with the creation of a new holiday then trudeau observed this newly created day by going
00:02:30.380 out surfing you can't make this stuff up reconciliation is an impossible goal guys it's
00:02:35.580 never going to come as lawyers bureaucrats and indigenous chiefs make far too much money 0.60
00:02:40.220 maintaining this perpetual grievance industry while apologies and cash settlements continue
00:02:45.260 to rise the standard of living for indigenous people living on reserves continues to decline
00:02:50.300 the disastrous reserve system is then used as an example why more reconciliation in the form
00:02:55.260 of money and land given to the chiefs is required and the governments continue to dole it out rinse
00:02:59.820 and repeat the name of trudeau's little holiday includes the word truth within it but the day is
00:03:05.500 about anything but the holiday was created in response to the biggest hoax perpetuated in
00:03:10.460 canadian history international news was made when the kamloops first nation issued a press release
00:03:16.380 falsely stating that ground penetrated that a ground penetrating radar survey to identify the
00:03:21.420 remains of 215 children the world was horrified even i was horrified i never for a second thought
00:03:26.860 somebody would falsely report the mass grave of murdered children in a school site but it didn't
00:03:31.820 take long for to become evident we've been hoodwinked most politicians and legacy media
00:03:36.300 outlets were too cowardly to call it out though once it became evident the the graves were a hoax
00:03:40.540 in fact despite all the evidence pointing to a hoax most of those aforementioned public figures
00:03:44.860 and media outlets still won't acknowledge it the word truth is bandied about but most of the efforts
00:03:49.820 we see here are actually designed to cover it up the truth of the situation in Kamloops could
00:03:54.620 literally be ascertained in a matter of hours they need only dig less than six feet the
00:03:58.860 determine if children are buried there in fact the indigenous band was given 12 million dollars to do
00:04:03.900 just that with millions of dollars and over five years to work on it they still haven't moved a
00:04:08.220 teaspoon of earth why would they want to the myth has proven very lucrative to them i'm sure there
00:04:13.420 are some very nice new cars for some selected members though if indeed there was evidence of
00:04:17.580 murdered children buried at the site the rcmp would conduct a forensic investigation an excavation
00:04:22.860 indian reserves aren't sovereign nations that's another mistruth about them and they can't hinder 0.68
00:04:27.180 a murder investigation otherwise they could build quite a cottage industry for murderers to bury 1.00
00:04:31.740 victims within the reserve boundaries considering the corruption around some of the indian indigenous
00:04:36.140 leadership i wouldn't put it beyond them the reason the rcmp won't move is because they know
00:04:40.140 there's no bodies there's no historical evidence of missing children at the school but the murders
00:04:45.420 allegedly happening as recently as the 60s why aren't any of the family members of these murdered
00:04:49.740 children speaking up wouldn't they want their remains returned and properly interred the reason
00:04:55.180 is there's no families because there's no bodies did i mention this whole thing's a hoax
00:04:59.020 indigenous activists and ndp members are trying to hide the truth by criminalizing discussion
00:05:03.580 of it they call it denialism as they try to compare the issue to the holocaust the thing is
00:05:07.660 though the holocaust had elements that the kamloops those elements are documentation witnesses and
00:05:14.540 bodies millions of them as a matter of fact not a single corpse has been found in kamloops
00:05:19.500 not just because the band isn't looking for the bodies but because there are none there
00:05:23.340 i almost hope they pass criminalizing the discussion in this hoax and then i'm charged
00:05:27.580 under it in the process of discovery we could dig a hole or two in kamloops and if that's what it
00:05:32.460 takes to find the truth and let's get on with it i was berated for my insensitivity on social media
00:05:37.580 for bringing up the hoax during last year's truth and reconciliation day to those who may be offended 0.99
00:05:42.060 by me bringing it up again today i extend my most heartfelt invitation to kiss my ass i intend to 0.92
00:05:47.500 use trudeau's little holiday as a platform to call out the hoax every single year until somebody gets 0.98
00:05:51.980 out a shovel and proves me wrong i'm following in the spirit of the holiday and pursuing the truth 0.96
00:05:57.420 and again kiss my ass all right so that's what i got to kick things off today how's it going i got 0.98
00:06:03.020 to win again with the news update not too bad christy this is your favorite holiday huh oh 0.99
00:06:07.420 absolutely uh unlike justin trudeau at least i won't try to dress up in traditional garb and
00:06:12.140 really make a mockery of it oh god no i was watching cbc this morning the propaganda has
00:06:16.380 been in full force there was um one of those cbc reporters i think he was in ottawa had a bunch of
00:06:20.380 kids and they were playing a board game to teach them about truth and reconciliation surprise
00:06:24.460 surprise all the kids were only just white kids but oh it's just been propaganda all day long so
00:06:28.460 far cory well you know i mean there's what drives me mad is there are real serious issues there is
00:06:33.260 real suffering on the reserves there is a failing of the system but instead we wrap ourselves around
00:06:39.100 these these ridiculous observances and denial of what's really going on out there and
00:06:43.420 go on another rant i observe it differently than others i'm sticking to the truth part
00:06:50.260 fair enough this one's actually right up your alley too apparently you saw that video of the
00:06:53.520 city of calgary uh worker removing those let alberta decide signs well the city's gotten back
00:06:58.300 to us and said that they removed them by mistake and later returned them but let alberta decide
00:07:02.820 and a bunch of other independence groups have been saying that their signs have been getting
00:07:05.920 taken down but those no to the nine signs and pro canada signs haven't been getting taken down
00:07:09.800 strangely the mistake applied to one color well i was just wondering if you have any
00:07:13.200 experience with this with all the signs you have all around the province. You know, I haven't
00:07:16.400 had any with that. I mean, the selective thing with, uh, uh, I was at town of Tabor, you know,
00:07:21.240 when they went after my billboards, they allowed, uh, they had no issues when, uh, Thomas Lukasik
00:07:25.140 put his up. Yeah. That was interesting. By the way, I've booked more ads. There's going to be
00:07:29.540 billboards in Tabor all the way to the end of the campaign just to let them know so they can
00:07:33.060 look forward to those. Oh, nice. But I haven't seen so blatant as the city of Calgary worker
00:07:36.580 pulling an eight by four out of the town, loading it in a truck and, oh, my bad. I didn't realize
00:07:41.160 I mean, city workers never do anything more than they have to without being told.
00:07:45.800 I mean, come on.
00:07:46.520 I was going to say, I'm maybe going to assume that they're apologizing now because I got
00:07:48.960 caught, but who knows?
00:07:49.940 That's just my reading into it, quite possibly.
00:07:52.180 Yeah, it's quite a story anyway.
00:07:54.580 I saw another one as well.
00:07:55.960 There was a flight from Dubai to Tel Aviv that had to make an emergency landing in Saudi
00:07:59.260 Arabia because apparently one of the pilots stabbed the other pilot and then tried to
00:08:03.180 crash the plane.
00:08:04.200 But luckily, he got subdued by the passengers. 0.86
00:08:06.540 So that's kind of the new sort of almost terrorist attack in the Middle East today. 0.95
00:08:10.180 Yeah, I know.
00:08:11.180 And everybody's fighting over what that motivation was. 0.90
00:08:13.280 Yeah, the Israelis don't know yet, apparently. 1.00
00:08:14.780 They're still kidding. 1.00
00:08:15.780 I mean, it could be just a lone crackpot.
00:08:17.580 It could have been a man trying to do it for allies.
00:08:19.780 Apparently, one of them, I think the pilot, I think, came out was Omani.
00:08:22.580 And I think another one might have been from India or something.
00:08:25.480 So I don't know exactly what they had with that.
00:08:27.280 Who knows?
00:08:27.880 It's just bizarre.
00:08:28.580 But it's nightmare fuel.
00:08:29.480 I mean, could you imagine being in that plane?
00:08:30.680 Oh, yeah.
00:08:31.080 And suddenly it's just.
00:08:31.980 No, man.
00:08:33.480 Yeah, I don't like turbulence.
00:08:34.480 I don't know.
00:08:34.980 It was a good pair of pants, I'm sure, at the very least.
00:08:38.480 I'm glad that it was resolved.
00:08:39.880 plane crash. Oh, 100%. I don't know if you heard this one, but apparently Mark Carney is one of
00:08:44.340 the favorites to win the Nobel Peace Prize. Oh, yes. And the time person of the year. And apparently
00:08:48.500 they're saying the main reason is because of his feud with Donald Trump and standing up to Donald
00:08:52.260 Trump, which I don't understand how this works, because I think Donald Trump won the time person
00:08:56.080 of the year twice. And obviously everyone he knows, he's been trying to go for the Nobel Prize for
00:08:59.620 years. So it would be kind of hilarious if Carney was to win it. Because then it'll just piss off
00:09:03.580 Trump more. And then you know that he'll just so petty that the trade war will just go. Oh, yeah.
00:09:07.540 I mean, that's the whole point of it.
00:09:09.080 We're watching politics in action.
00:09:10.620 I mean, Carney has not accomplished much of anything, really.
00:09:14.200 A lot of talk in a year and a half.
00:09:15.460 He did accomplish quite a turnaround for the Liberals, given that.
00:09:18.580 No, they just wanted an international middle finger to the orange man who they despise so much.
00:09:23.440 Oh, yeah.
00:09:24.780 100%.
00:09:25.140 And also, tomorrow is the big day.
00:09:27.600 We're going to find out if the West Coast Pipeline is going to be designated a project of the national interest.
00:09:32.520 I mean, nobody's really given anything away yet.
00:09:35.180 But I mean, obviously, we all know the whole debacle around that.
00:09:38.040 What do you think is going to happen?
00:09:38.800 Do you think that it probably is going to be designated a project of national interest
00:09:42.620 just because of what's happening in Alberta with the referendum coming up in that?
00:09:45.940 Yeah, they'll designate it as a project in the national interest.
00:09:48.900 Then they'll rag the puck and get court challenges and protesters and back off,
00:09:52.440 and the thing will never get built.
00:09:55.340 That's my prediction right now.
00:09:56.900 Yeah, I kind of think you might be right on that.
00:09:58.460 I'm hopeful because, you know, Carney keeps saying about,
00:10:00.320 oh, build Canada into an energy superpower.
00:10:02.080 And the world wants our product.
00:10:03.260 They want our oil, want our gas.
00:10:04.760 Well, it gets back to, actually, it's good.
00:10:06.660 You know, you segue me into the theme for today.
00:10:09.000 Oh, did I?
00:10:09.420 Because Carney has kept saying he needs the consent of indigenous bands along the route.
00:10:13.620 Well, it's impossible.
00:10:14.340 Yeah, there's so many of them, too.
00:10:15.580 He's got to show courage and his constitutional authority to say, look, we've consulted you, which is fair enough.
00:10:22.740 It's an obligation.
00:10:24.160 We're done with that.
00:10:25.180 This thing's going through.
00:10:26.860 Done deal.
00:10:28.100 But he won't say that.
00:10:28.980 As long as he won't say that, it's not getting done.
00:10:31.760 Yeah.
00:10:32.360 So we're going to play both sides.
00:10:33.420 Maybe he'll be proven wrong.
00:10:34.520 It wouldn't be the first time, but I'm not holding a lot of optimism.
00:10:37.460 Yeah, no, exactly.
00:10:38.760 Well, that's all I had for the time being, Corey.
00:10:40.120 There's going to be a lot more coming up later because we still have all the national truth and reconciliation ceremonies and whatnot.
00:10:44.820 There's going to be some good video coming out of this, I'm thinking.
00:10:47.320 Apparently, Wav Canoe's doing a speech, or maybe he is right now.
00:10:49.420 I don't know.
00:10:49.940 So I'm actually kind of interested to see what he has to say about a bunch of this because.
00:10:53.120 Well, he's a smart political player.
00:10:55.900 He seems to be, yeah, from Manitoba.
00:10:57.600 Give him credit for that.
00:10:59.340 He's, you know, an NDP premier and he's sinking them into bankruptcy.
00:11:02.720 see, but it's interesting to watch what he gets up to.
00:11:05.800 He knows how to play the retail politics.
00:11:07.280 Yeah.
00:11:07.800 That was a decent rap video occasionally too back in the days.
00:11:10.160 That was something else.
00:11:11.760 Oh, thank God there were no videos of mine.
00:11:13.400 If I didn't try rapping or anything, there were a few, you know,
00:11:17.540 happens from my-
00:11:18.640 I was going to say, were you in a band or something back in the day?
00:11:20.360 No, I was just a promiscuous guy with a mullet who worked in the oil field.
00:11:24.220 Fair enough.
00:11:24.700 Yeah.
00:11:26.700 Whatever.
00:11:27.460 I'm waiting for the genetic testing to show a new child out there somewhere.
00:11:30.840 So far, so good.
00:11:32.120 Oh, that's hilarious.
00:11:32.720 right on okay well thank you i'll let you get back to the newsroom and uh appreciate the update i
00:11:37.680 know you got plenty to cover with uh we do the unfortunate uh primary dave being under the
00:11:42.160 weather today yeah yeah food poisoning apparently so that's three days in a row so he must be really
00:11:46.160 sick if he misses three days yeah he hasn't been here so you think it was from the flaming pig but
00:11:49.920 you know what it's funny that you mentioned that that was the first thing he said it wasn't he made
00:11:53.280 a point of saying it wasn't from the pig in the text he sent me monday morning for context folks
00:11:57.440 our publisher derek phildebrand held an oktoberfest uh pig roast on saturday we went it was pretty
00:12:03.040 good it did catch fire and there was a bunch of flames yeah i got some video that was the flaming
00:12:06.480 pig but i mean the rest of us all ate it it was very good yeah so it was a good event but yeah
00:12:11.200 well good i'm glad that's not what laid out something with his air fryer or something it's 0.84
00:12:14.880 like chicken he took out and he forgot to clean out like the sauce or something he says maybe
00:12:18.320 that caused it i don't know yeah you gotta watch that poultry well i i certainly hope he recovers
00:12:22.240 yeah me too nothing worse than something oh yeah all right well thanks again we will see you on
00:12:26.880 the pipeline later sounds like a plan right on so yes as we can see from dave sitting in for the
00:12:31.920 other dave we need more daves but uh the lots of stuff going on lots of news this is where i like
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00:13:33.600 yourself a quick update i had some people asking too i'll talk a little more on that a little later
00:13:38.560 but yes i was in court on the siksika reserve all day yesterday we got lots of stuff for the first
00:13:42.720 nations themed stuff they charged me with trespassing for going out and shooting a video
00:13:47.680 of the conditions in the housing situation out there.
00:13:51.080 They got $1.3 billion a few years ago
00:13:53.560 and still apparently the houses are falling apart.
00:13:56.540 The garbage is all over the place.
00:13:58.180 They were pretty upset that I had exposed that
00:14:02.240 and charged me of trespassing.
00:14:03.540 The case, the best way I could put it went bizarrely.
00:14:07.180 It's not done.
00:14:08.560 My next court date on this thing
00:14:10.300 is gonna get into two or three years
00:14:11.980 before it's ever finished.
00:14:14.820 The next court date's at the end of November,
00:14:16.680 But they did throw out my ability to make a charter challenge.
00:14:21.600 It was really strange.
00:14:22.560 Even the prosecution seemed to be taken aback.
00:14:25.000 But Justice Crowshoe, who is the judge assigned to this little judicial farce we're taking part in, doesn't appear to be too receptive on hearing a defense.
00:14:34.740 But the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms has certainly been helping me out.
00:14:37.860 And we will take this as far up the court ladder as we must.
00:14:41.380 So if we go to a justice beyond Madam Crowshoe, I suspect some of the rulings might be different.
00:14:47.380 One of the things I documented on the reserve while I was out there, I wanted to point out to people because people don't go on the reserves and they often don't see it, are the feral and wild dogs.
00:14:55.660 I got a video of that and talked about that.
00:14:58.920 And my guest is going to talk much more about that.
00:15:01.200 His name is Reid Salmon.
00:15:02.220 And he's been getting on the ground, as I said at the start, and I really appreciate that.
00:15:05.440 People who don't just talk about things, they get up and do stuff.
00:15:08.700 And he's been making effort to try and change things to help that situation on Alberta Reserves.
00:15:13.660 So let's bring him in and have a conversation about that.
00:15:17.420 Hello, Reid.
00:15:17.800 Thank you very much for coming in to join us today.
00:15:20.160 Thanks for having me, Corey.
00:15:22.060 So I guess I'll leave it to you to kind of introduce it.
00:15:24.960 You know, in a nutshell, what have you been up to?
00:15:28.120 What is it, you know, that you're trying to do to help the feral dog populations?
00:15:33.360 Well, number one, bringing awareness to it.
00:15:37.000 that is the biggest thing for me because uh in 2022 is when I actually became aware of how
00:15:42.820 secure it was and it didn't take me long to find out why people don't know about it and that's
00:15:48.340 because like I was just listening to you say um everybody's afraid to expose it because of the
00:15:53.000 backlash that they're going to get right and um after doing a fundraiser in 2022 I uh I dropped
00:16:00.260 the check off at a local animal shelter here in central Alberta and they were telling me stories
00:16:06.260 they brought a dog out for me to get a photo with and the dog was missing a leg it had a freshly
00:16:11.780 amputated leg and had a road rash and i said oh no like what happened to her and just kind of
00:16:17.140 thinking you know like maybe an accident or a dog fight or something and i had no idea where this
00:16:20.980 dog came from and they told me uh they said where do you think and i said i have no idea is this a
00:16:27.380 trick question i have no idea it all came from masco cheese which is a local reserves north of
00:16:32.100 up and open here and uh and i was in shock i was i felt like this little kid who just kind of had
00:16:38.000 his dreams crushed and he said this this stuff happens all the time like you didn't know and i'm
00:16:42.060 like no i didn't i was mad that i didn't know and i was wondering why i didn't know i grew up here
00:16:46.640 like how did i not know this and well it's because everybody's afraid to face the backlash that we
00:16:52.020 get yeah and and again part of why as we said with the video i did was just most people if they don't
00:16:58.960 have a reason to they don't go on to a first nations reserve uh it's you know if you don't
00:17:02.880 have a purpose to go there you typically don't go so you don't understand and see what's there
00:17:06.860 like this has been an issue i was talking to dave uh the former fella who was on here our new
00:17:11.600 one of our news guys uh about what he used to see in morley like these feral dogs are an issue on
00:17:19.320 every reserve and they have been for decades and decades uh but now the problem is kind of going
00:17:24.200 underground because they're they're kind of locking people out and it's unfortunate these
00:17:28.180 animals are suffering terribly so what have you been doing to kind of bring attention to that i
00:17:32.200 know you've stirred some folks up i have yes i um uh in 2024 so like you said people don't usually
00:17:38.880 you know they don't take vacations to the reserves and they don't usually take the the alternate route
00:17:43.560 to go through them and that's that's the thing right and that's why i i decided one day i was
00:17:49.260 going to make a decision to bring light to this no matter what backlash i face because i i just
00:17:53.740 know it's the right thing to do and you know i'm not looking to um shame people that grew up in
00:17:59.220 this environment and uh you know were dealt shitty cards it's it's more to shame the leadership for
00:18:04.640 allowing it to continue for shaming to shame the government for not intervening when they should
00:18:09.260 and because they know it's happening of course they do right and the problem is too on the on
00:18:14.880 the systemic issues that these communities face the dogs are at the very bottom of the totem pole
00:18:19.560 like you say the the housing conditions and and the people they're always going to come first so
00:18:24.460 the dogs they're just a pawn on the chest table and for what I've been doing it started in uh
00:18:30.160 January of 2024 um I was laying on my couch in my condo when I was living in Innisfil
00:18:35.400 and it was minus 50 we had that minus 50 cold snap in January there and uh my truck wouldn't
00:18:42.580 start I was laying on the couch watching tv and uh I couldn't stop thinking about those dogs I
00:18:47.860 couldn't stop thinking about how pain the pain they must be in right and and at this time um this
00:18:54.060 was the this was the big shift for me at this time i had this idea in my head that res dogs because i
00:18:58.900 always heard the term res dog and i just assumed that it meant stray dog i thought it meant you
00:19:02.840 know a wild dog which i hate that term now feral dog is what they are they're not wild because
00:19:07.520 wild dogs can survive in the wild these ones can't um but i i started a fundraiser on on my facebook
00:19:14.140 platform before i had any sort of following and uh i just said you know like i i'm a country kid
00:19:21.460 i know that straw bales is what we use to keep any animals warm um you know um horses sheep goats
00:19:27.640 whatever and i uh you know i'm like i'm gonna i'm gonna find a straw bale hookup and we're gonna
00:19:33.820 we're gonna go buy some bales and i didn't know how many we were gonna get i didn't know how much
00:19:37.140 money we were gonna raise but we did end up doing um nine thousand dollars in three days and i think
00:19:41.460 be purchased around over 2,000 bales that we dispersed between four communities in central
00:19:47.420 Alberta. That would be Ocheese, Sunchild, Masquechise, and Morley, as you were talking about
00:19:51.880 before. That there was the first time that I actually stepped foot on the reserve without
00:19:56.700 just driving through my vehicle. I actually got to see it firsthand. So I got brought out by a
00:20:01.760 person who reached out to me and said, who granted you access to these communities? I said, nobody.
00:20:07.100 i'm going either way and uh she said well no worries we'll grant you access this was a
00:20:12.480 former rescue friend that i had that uh we're no longer associated and um she brought me out
00:20:19.500 and i i had this image in my head that we would be in the field building these straw huts for
00:20:25.480 these stray dogs that's just what i pictured and i i followed her to a house and she gets out she
00:20:31.040 goes up to knock on the door and i could see that there's a dog chained up outside with no shelter
00:20:35.560 no food no water freezing alternating paws because his paws are freezing off and i said what the what
00:20:41.500 the hell are we doing here and she said well we're just asking permission to see if we can build a
00:20:45.040 hut for their dog and i'm like this dog has a house this dog has a home and that's where everything
00:20:50.020 changed i looked around and what i thought was smoke and mirrors it was not just a stray crisis
00:20:56.180 that's only 30 of the problem it is the treatment of the animals that are owned by people in these
00:21:02.120 communities and that's what people need to understand that's what they need to see and i
00:21:05.600 don't see anybody else exposing that no and it's horrifying to see i i worked in the field for for
00:21:12.280 20 years and i worked on a lot of reserves in the past and that's part of why i know how they are
00:21:16.480 and that's why i wanted it as you're doing this first step is to let people know because they
00:21:20.300 just don't realize and there's there's like a few levels of where the dogs are in difficulty
00:21:24.900 one as you said is where they're restrained and they're chained at some households and again i
00:21:29.340 both we're both clear that some households take great care of their animals like anybody else
00:21:34.460 but it's much more on the reserve where there's a problem others then there's the ones that are
00:21:38.140 associated with the home but they're not chained or restrained in any sort of way and they run
00:21:42.700 semi-feral they're unfixed that's part of a large part of the problem and then more puppies come
00:21:49.340 then often some of those puppies might survive well they don't want to raise more dogs those
00:21:52.780 ones end up going out being totally feral and they can become dangerous it's a hamster wheel
00:21:59.340 it's a hamster wheel we did have a girl uh lose her life earlier this year a rescue girl in
00:22:03.980 manitoba i didn't know her personally but a lot of mutual friends between us and yeah she she got
00:22:09.100 mauled so it's a real problem yeah these are desperate dangerous dogs i wrote a piece recently
00:22:13.740 on it with a number of issues just in the last five years with often children killed by packs
00:22:18.380 of feral dogs because they're on the reserves they're out of control uh there's just so many
00:22:24.220 levels of how terrible this is i know there's been efforts over the years though they quietly
00:22:29.340 do it because nobody wants to assign responsibility there's been rescue societies i know in the
00:22:33.580 sutina reserve there's been free uh vet clinic that's mobile that'll go out there and we'll fix
00:22:38.860 the animals for them if people want to bring them in and they'll have like a mobile problem it's if
00:22:43.900 they want to yes accountability is gone and the participation's been low so you have rescued some
00:22:52.060 dogs now i've seen some of the backlash from some people they're accusing you of stealing dogs uh
00:22:58.540 when it's a dog that's suffering and being abused i don't see that as theft i see that as a human
00:23:03.500 intervention but uh you you're going to be in risk of getting in some some problems pretty soon
00:23:09.260 You know, it's funny. I have police officers in my back pocket who commend what I do. And they would have to say it publicly, obviously, for the sole fact that they're going to get their backlash and potentially lose their job.
00:23:23.720 and i also know police officers who work on reserves who have been um penalized for rescuing
00:23:30.680 animals on the job as well because uh apparently that's not what they're supposed to do but if you
00:23:35.360 if you look up the criminal code of canada the animal welfare laws laws the ones that are um
00:23:40.700 stated in the indian act section 88 it actually is their job and they are the only ones with
00:23:45.160 jurisdiction to do anything um so yeah i have uh i have said that i it's more of a joke you know
00:23:52.940 people say reed steels dog i say yet stole a dog today right save them without permission because
00:23:57.840 um in my eyes and i guess i don't know how you view it but um for me it's i'm looking at a child
00:24:04.700 that's suffering right they're as vulnerable as a child for me i'm not asking permission to save
00:24:10.380 and i will happily i will happily take the fine the the consequences if there were any it would
00:24:17.820 be ridiculous if there was i've never i have never taken an animal that has been formally taken care
00:24:24.980 of that and i wouldn't and i understand the difference between a free roaming dog that is
00:24:29.020 taken care of i totally i'm not running around taking dogs with collars that are in good shape
00:24:34.080 and have good lives because you know what those dogs are going to end up hating their lives because
00:24:37.420 they just lost their freedom a lot of these dogs that we bring in they are feral and they are the
00:24:43.020 ones that can't be um they can't be changed no i mean that's another issue for rehabilitation
00:24:49.980 and trying to home dogs if they've been out too long sometimes they they just end up destroyed
00:24:55.020 unfortunately anyways because you can't bring them into a regular household but it's worth a try
00:24:59.520 the the ones that the other ones as you said i mean there's enough to deal with already you're
00:25:04.560 not going to go out picking up dogs that are living perfectly fine it's you can barely keep
00:25:09.060 up with the ones that are suffering right now exactly exactly and a good example of that right
00:25:13.700 now currently there's a dog on the saddle lake reserve um i'm sure you probably know where that
00:25:18.140 is just outside of edmonton there's a dog that was sent to us with a leg that um is missing it
00:25:25.360 wasn't amputated i don't know what happened a snare or a trap or another dog i really don't
00:25:29.940 know but you can see that it is festering and probably getting infected and we we reached out
00:25:37.700 couple times people on my behalf to take the dog in and we've been declined that is that is an
00:25:43.940 example of a dog that i would take if i was sitting there yeah and it extends beyond that and i know
00:25:50.180 there's only so much you can do but i know there's horse rescues too because there's a whole lot of
00:25:54.500 problems unfortunately with with horses and livestock on the reserves as well i mean the
00:25:59.460 issue is much larger i i see the dogs the horses the suffering the abuse as a symptom again of a
00:26:05.380 a bigger broken system it's not saying you don't care about the people in the state that they're
00:26:10.260 in in fact the state that the people are in is what's leading to the dog suffering as well
00:26:14.140 it all ties together it does it absolutely does and it is a systemic crisis and there's no doubt
00:26:20.260 about that and it's it's weird i think it's kind of like a culture it is a culture shock when you
00:26:26.000 go see this especially when it's right there in your backyard you know morally uh masco cheese
00:26:30.740 these ones that are only a drop like a 45 minute drive from town or even less sometimes and one of
00:26:38.100 the biggest excuses that we hear is the lack of funding and resources well not only that only
00:26:44.100 works as an excuse for the ones that are you know in northern saskatchewan the fly-in communities
00:26:48.520 northern alberta the ones that literally don't have access to those things and if you ask me i
00:26:53.260 have a quick solution to that problem and it's let's get the animals out we can't take care of
00:26:57.800 them and we can't feed them and we can't provide them with the necessities that they require then
00:27:03.060 let's get them out that's a pretty easy solution to me and then the ones that are close to like
00:27:07.320 my mother lives uh 35 minutes into the country from the nearest vector she has seven dogs that
00:27:13.260 that excuse doesn't pass no it's uh you know i'm in i'm not a very terribly isolated area but i live
00:27:21.540 in a rural area and i've gone through all we rescue a lot of dogs it's part it's a pet subject
00:27:25.360 for me i don't go on the reserves to get them but we always get ours from from animal rescues and
00:27:29.280 they often did originate on reserves but we can't keep up and uh you know just kind of as we wrap up
00:27:35.200 like moving towards the solution base you held an a great event over on the legislature in edmonton
00:27:40.960 recently again there was an indigenous group protesting you uh for whatever reason uh but
00:27:47.760 where do you think we should go to try and find a solution because i mean they you know they're 1.00
00:27:52.160 animals they can breed and and if we don't get to the root of it it's still just going to be a
00:27:55.980 perpetual thing at the end of the day for me um a lot of people get kind of bottlenecked in the
00:28:01.060 spay neuter idea you know like let's end the stray crisis spay neuter spay neuter but that's only
00:28:05.340 targeting one part of the problem not to mention i would never offer a free spay neuter clinic
00:28:11.360 without a contract from the band saying that they're going to follow up with laws and enforcement
00:28:17.160 of those laws that already exist, right?
00:28:20.240 I have a friend at Northern Saskatchewan.
00:28:22.740 It took them six months to remove every stray from one community.
00:28:26.720 They came back in a year and it was back to the same.
00:28:29.020 And that is because everybody wants a puppy. 0.52
00:28:31.000 And then when the puppy starts shitting and pissing in the house,
00:28:33.980 it gets kicked out the door and that's where it gets to fend for itself.
00:28:37.380 That's just the truth.
00:28:39.100 Oh, yeah.
00:28:39.880 No, it turns impractical and then the thrill wears off
00:28:43.680 and the dog gets neglected or totally abandoned.
00:28:46.420 It's awful.
00:28:47.160 And I mean, it's part of a larger social issue, but I mean, I'm glad you're working on it and you're bringing attention to it and doing the things you can for the ones you can find.
00:28:54.620 Where can people find what you're up to and support your work?
00:28:58.660 Facebook is probably the best place.
00:29:00.980 Facebook and Instagram, those two pages have been turned from a music platform into an animal advocacy platform.
00:29:07.280 And right now we are in the midst of launching our second organization, which will be tied into Reed Salmon Foundation, the one that I originally started.
00:29:15.080 I originally started it just because I wanted to raise money
00:29:17.160 for these initiatives.
00:29:18.720 I didn't know that I was going to become engulfed.
00:29:21.420 So now that I am, I've created a more sustainable model.
00:29:25.260 It's called the Bleeding Heart Animal Society,
00:29:27.440 and we'll be releasing it here hopefully in the next week or two.
00:29:30.600 Excellent.
00:29:31.100 I'm really looking forward to that.
00:29:32.180 Be sure to let me know when that's live and certainly share it out to folks.
00:29:36.480 It takes a while to get things like that going.
00:29:38.140 I guess before I let you go, one more thing.
00:29:40.020 As you mentioned, you're also a musician.
00:29:41.900 You perform in Alberta?
00:29:43.480 I do, yes, that's right.
00:29:44.660 um i'm not sure if you've heard uh sweet home alberta you ever heard that song but it is uh
00:29:49.460 it is i okay so i was uh i was a political commentator before yeah no i understand things
00:29:58.900 cross over and such well i really appreciate you taking some time to talk to us today and the work
00:30:04.820 you're doing on the ground as i said and hey there's there's room for people who just talk
00:30:08.260 about issues or write about issues but getting up and getting out there too just to to to do
00:30:13.540 something about it is is above and beyond what most people do and hopefully inspires more people
00:30:18.260 to get up and get moving on some things so uh thank you again and i hope that uh next foundation
00:30:22.900 takes right off for you thanks gory i appreciate it great thank you so one more time guys you can
00:30:28.100 find him yeah and he's prolific very much if you're on you know uh facebook and instagram
00:30:32.260 just look up reed salmon as you can see on the screen r-e-e-d uh salmon as the as you would hear
00:30:37.780 with the fish i've got a son named reed but his is spelled a little differently so just remember
00:30:41.540 that r-e-e-d and you can find him and you know it surprised me i watched the video of the event he
00:30:48.820 held up on the legislature steps a lot of great people came out some good speakers and so on 0.93
00:30:53.220 and he invited other people to come up to the microphone and and speak who were protesting
00:30:58.100 against his work and such and fair enough but it just keeps coming back to people ranting about
00:31:04.580 colonialism or anything about uh other odd things and it's just masking this the issue that was on
00:31:14.420 hand at that day and that's the suffering of the dogs uh you know we just don't want that to happen
00:31:19.860 any longer and we've got to look at it look as i said in my monologue and as i i said when we're
00:31:25.620 talking about the other things first nations reserves are not above the law they are not
00:31:31.860 actually sovereign nations no matter what they like to try and call themselves they are not in
00:31:36.260 fact they're racially based dependencies is what they are and that's part of what's led to the 0.86
00:31:41.380 awful dysfunction and mess that's going on on on the majority of them
00:31:47.620 i've heard those debates when it comes to the cam loops thing where they say well they can't dig
00:31:51.300 because again it's the first nations it's their sovereign territory the rcmp has no jurisdiction
00:31:55.620 there that's absolutely untrue they are still within canada they're still under our laws and
00:32:02.980 that includes animal neglect and abuse laws but and there's the big but uh police officers and
00:32:11.620 agencies would rather chew off their own legs than go on to the reserves and deal with it
00:32:16.740 not that they're not sympathetic but the the repercussions of dealing with anything on the
00:32:22.580 the reserves is brutal. You know, as we see with Reed's just trying to rescue animals and he's got
00:32:30.360 an opposition group coming after him. And the excuses come hard and heavy. You know, they talk
00:32:35.660 about too, well, it's different. It's a culturally different thing. You know, res dogs, they're part
00:32:40.460 of our culture and the way things are supposed to be. Look, you know what? I'm tired of cultural
00:32:44.180 relativism. Not all cultural practices are equal. Not all cultural practices need to be maintained.
00:32:51.940 Not all cultural practices need to be respected.
00:32:55.380 Some of them have to evolve to get in touch with the modern times.
00:32:59.260 And I don't even know if poor treatment of animals is a traditional culture.
00:33:04.300 I don't think it is.
00:33:05.220 I think it's unfortunately something that's turned into a contemporary culture for the people on the reserves
00:33:09.920 because, again, they're in such terrible condition due to the whole reserve system as it is.
00:33:15.600 But there's somewhat an irony to it.
00:33:17.220 You know, people get more sometimes, I guess, upset or active when an animal is being abused than sometimes when a person is.
00:33:27.600 I think it's the fact that it's the helplessness.
00:33:30.460 When an animal's abused, they really, you know, are at a terrible disadvantage when they're being abused or neglected by a human being.
00:33:37.620 Because, you know, we have all the advantages.
00:33:39.260 We're larger, we're smarter, we're able to abuse.
00:33:42.220 Same thing when people get upset when a child is abused or a senior citizen.
00:33:45.500 You know, they don't like to see any abuse, but when it's something that really can't help itself, it's awful to see.
00:33:52.320 I put a video up a while back on my own page on just somebody who'd caught a clip of a gentleman who was screaming at people who were giving out signs for the independence movement.
00:34:04.280 Now, we get that regularly, and those clips take off a bit.
00:34:07.080 But in this case, the man with his temper and he had a dog with him jerked that poor thing right off its feet by its neck with the collar and stomped away.
00:34:15.620 Well, I put that clip up there.
00:34:16.780 That clip had hundreds of thousands of views.
00:34:18.640 Why?
00:34:19.500 Well, because yelling at people will get some people worked up, but somebody abusing a dog gets people worked up really fast.
00:34:27.400 And there's much more abuse and far worse than a man who lost his temper and jerked his dog by the neck,
00:34:32.100 which I really hope the man just had a moment of bad judgment and that he does care for and love that dog.
00:34:37.080 but we're talking thousands of dogs suffering on these reserves and they're suffering right now
00:34:43.860 as we're talking there's dogs in terrible shape and we got to look at how on earth to deal with
00:34:51.320 it reads starting the process and and more so than with other animal rescue societies that have been
00:34:56.880 doing a lot of work on it already which is great as i said the ones we rescued they're of crazed
00:35:01.360 mixed breeds we don't know where they came from or what the whole history of them was
00:35:05.280 but they predominantly came from reserves. You know, overpopulation of animals was an issue
00:35:13.080 outside of reserves a couple of generations ago as well. Cats were running stray in alleys that
00:35:20.020 was well known. They'd be culled. Dogs running stray, so on. That's why we had so many dog
00:35:25.240 catchers and things like that for trying to get people to restrain them. The North American
00:35:29.300 culture changed. They took it on as a piece of personal responsibility if you're going to own
00:35:34.340 animals. You have moral obligations to care for the animals and keep them well, and there's legal
00:35:41.240 obligations. So if you are not properly caring for your animal, if you are not, you know, keeping it
00:35:49.060 under control, you could have legal repercussions against you. And hey, to be fair, there's been
00:35:55.440 dogs have been run loose outside, there's people who abuse animals outside the reserve too, but
00:35:59.020 we're talking the whole volume of it in comparison doesn't it pales with what's going on out there
00:36:05.260 and we've got to expose it because until we do there's going to be more suffering if you want
00:36:11.160 to see it i don't know they probably called them since but there'll be more coming back if you go
00:36:15.180 to the casino halfway to banff on the stoney reserve and they've got the casino and the gas
00:36:20.480 station the convenience store all the stuff they open up there there's a whole bunch of dogs hanging
00:36:24.360 around there scrap hounding off of people it's a pure example right there because they've just
00:36:27.960 They're desperate dogs. They found that they can get some food and hot dogs or whatever from
00:36:31.820 tourists that come by, but it's dangerous. These are dogs that are running loose. It's going to
00:36:38.360 get cold. The tourist trade is going to go down and those dogs are going to suffer badly. And
00:36:44.520 some people try to intervene there. And guess what? The reserve got very worked up. So don't
00:36:47.540 you dare intervene. That's our job. Well, then do it. Do your damn job. You know, the reserves have
00:36:53.380 bylaws i know about it i've been charged under a couple of them but they don't want to charge their
00:36:59.540 own people i guess when they're doing such things like let's get real with this let's address this
00:37:06.500 again i mean i care for the people on the reserves too as i said i i think the suffering of the
00:37:12.660 animals is a symptom of the suffering of the people already in there and uh you know we we
00:37:23.140 want to fix the whole thing but if we could start with some of those dogs the horses and other
00:37:28.980 things on the reserves let's get on with it part of it is a complete lack of personal responsibility
00:37:34.580 you know it gets back to what i talked about this this is endless society of grievance we've created
00:37:39.500 The sense of victimhood.
00:37:41.040 Anything and everything that ever goes wrong in your life is somebody else's fault.
00:37:43.860 You know what?
00:37:44.120 You'll never live well when you've got that kind of attitude among you.
00:37:47.620 And that was put upon the people on the reserves.
00:37:50.080 And I've talked about that before, too.
00:37:51.560 This isn't a matter of the race.
00:37:54.160 Any race raised that way, raised on a separated enclave based on race,
00:38:02.200 and then put into a cycle of dependency where you're surrounded by substance abuse,
00:38:06.380 where you have limited employment opportunities when you're in housing that you don't own,
00:38:11.440 all of these factors that combine is going to be messed up. It doesn't matter if it's an
00:38:17.460 indigenous person raised like that, or a white person, or an Asian person, they will come out 0.92
00:38:22.820 of it dysfunctional in that system. And now it's coming down to the animals as well. And I don't 0.95
00:38:28.360 care what a person's motivation is to change things. If the suffering of the people wasn't
00:38:32.200 enough, then if the suffering of the dogs helps, then sure, then let's bring more attention to it,
00:38:38.620 to the whole thing. I saw that example. I wrote that in my column a little while ago. It drove
00:38:43.720 me mad. It was years ago when on the Sutina Reserve next to Calgary, some feral dogs had
00:38:50.580 been harassing people trying to fish on Fish Creek, which bounds on the reserve.
00:38:56.260 And the bylaw, the chief bylaw officer in Calgary, they called him bylaw Bill,
00:39:00.280 outright said this was due to Calgarians dumping their unwanted dogs on the reserve.
00:39:06.360 That was 100% of a lie. That was a shift of where the responsibility lands that was damaging,
00:39:12.360 disingenuous, and completely irresponsible. And it really pissed me off. I mean, it's not saying
00:39:19.060 you've got to get up there and yell at the people living on the reserve and such, but let's be real
00:39:23.300 about what happened. Why are there not feral dog populations around the north, east, and south
00:39:28.360 parts of the city then why is it only on the reserve why was it that i got chased by a group
00:39:33.400 of feral dogs in anya lake up north of lloydminster when i was a surveyor 15 years ago
00:39:38.760 the people weren't driving six hours to get up there and abandon their dogs guys these were a
00:39:45.080 domestic local issue and if you don't even attribute as a person who was in a senior position
00:39:51.960 in sort of a form of almost bureaucratic law enforcement to try and lay the blame on the
00:39:56.840 neighboring city, rather than point to where the real problem is, how the hell are we ever going
00:40:01.380 to get to the solution of it? What cowardice on his part? And again, drives home to the people
00:40:07.120 saying it's never the fault of the people living on the reserve. That adds to that dysfunction.
00:40:13.060 It adds to that life outlook that leads them into a cycle of defeat and misery. It's just not good
00:40:23.420 either way. It gets on to other things. As I said, you know, with my own trial that's going on
00:40:29.640 with them disallowing the charter defense, it's just strange. And it'll be going on. As I said,
00:40:37.820 my next trial date's November 27th. We pretty much anticipate I'm going to be convicted
00:40:42.280 and we'll take it up to another level of court. And because it's absurd and it's ridiculous and 0.96
00:40:47.240 with a proper judge, that'll be chucked out. But it's going to take a long time. It's been 0.72
00:40:51.160 a year and a half since I shot that video. And let's not beat around the bush. Why is the band
00:40:57.920 so bound and determined to come after me? What harm did I do, right, in this alleged trespass
00:41:04.940 by driving on a public highway on the reserve? I didn't do any harm with that. What they don't
00:41:12.760 like is the video I shot. They don't like that I exposed the conditions there and including dogs
00:41:20.300 in that video. So they want to make an example of me. They want to make sure that nobody else
00:41:25.880 goes out to see what's going on in there. Totally a responsibility. They should be prioritizing
00:41:32.140 things on their own reserve instead of trying to cover it up and hide it.
00:41:36.260 But again, this is the attitude we've created. There's also a lot of corruption on a number of
00:41:41.540 reserves. I don't know. I ask questions they don't want to hear about. A reserve that got $1.3
00:41:47.280 billion, yet looks like a chunk of Mexico when you drive on it, where'd the money go? Why does
00:41:53.620 it look so rough? Why are they living in squalor? Why can't you pick up the garbage? Why can't you
00:41:58.120 contain your dogs when you have all that money? All that shows is money obviously isn't the
00:42:03.560 solution, is it? Something much bigger. But if we can't enter those reserves, if everybody who goes
00:42:11.220 on there gets trespassing charges for even daring to expose these issues, how the hell are we ever
00:42:16.120 going to fix them for the people or the animals. This is scary. It really is. They're building
00:42:23.840 walls around these places. How bad is the misery going to get within the reserves if
00:42:29.980 we aren't even allowed to see what's happening on them? One of the other issues yesterday,
00:42:35.260 I'm not allowed to talk about the details. There was a publication ban because it involved minors,
00:42:38.500 but I was in the courthouse. And I tell you what, some of the stuff that goes through the courts,
00:42:43.480 the crime, things, unimaginable stuff that happens on those reserves because of that dysfunction
00:42:51.600 and the way people are living. It's just brutal. So either way, again, I'm thankful for some of
00:42:57.360 the people who will get up. I fear that Mr. Salmon's probably going to be facing some time
00:43:02.460 in the courts if he's not careful soon with trespassing and other crap like that. That's
00:43:05.660 part of why I'm pushing on this too. It's not just for me, but we can't let that precedent set
00:43:12.300 that nobody else can get on there and witness or report on what's happening out there because it's
00:43:19.180 only going to make things so much worse. So much worse. All right. I want to go on to something
00:43:24.740 a little light as we get in the last couple of minutes of the show. We might as well light and
00:43:27.440 dark at the same time. As people saw with that airline issue, we don't know the motivation. It
00:43:31.720 was bizarre. A couple of pilots fighting, one stabbing the other on an airline heading to Israel
00:43:37.200 from Qatar. I don't know if it was terrorist motivated or just a nutcase or whatever and so
00:43:43.560 on. Lots of people are speculating. But the craziness of the fact that passengers got in,
00:43:48.460 intervened, took both of the pilots out of there, and it turned out there were pilots on board who
00:43:53.060 were able to land that plane. And then Vivian Bercovici, who's a fantastic woman, she actually
00:44:01.720 hosted Dave, myself. She was a former ambassador to Israel. When I was over in Israel, we dropped
00:44:07.920 by her place. She's just a great gal to chat with and everything and has a brilliant sense of humor.
00:44:13.120 But she did point out something playing into stereotypes. I'm allowed to play into those
00:44:17.400 ones either way. She says, overall, the probability that a plane full of Israelis will contain 0.95
00:44:21.420 a trained assault team, two additional pilots, and statistically at least one cardiac surgeon, 0.94
00:44:25.980 psychologist lawyer and diamond dealer is substantially higher than 50%. I mean, yes,
00:44:32.280 pretty much when you have the magic combination, if you're going to have a plane where everything
00:44:35.880 is going to go nuts, and you're going to need an assault team intervention on somebody, you're
00:44:40.900 going to need doctors to fix somebody, and you're going to need pilots to land that thing, 1.00
00:44:45.560 you're probably best off on a plane full of Israelis. If you're a plane taking off from 1.00
00:44:51.160 northern Pakistan, you probably just want to make your peace with God as you make your way towards
00:44:56.740 the ground. Maybe you'll get some good food on the way down. But it just was a funny way to phrase it 0.99
00:45:02.040 and so on with, you know, playing with demographic realities of where some of the Jewish population
00:45:07.800 lands and with some of the others. All right, guys, thank you all for tuning in today. Happy
00:45:14.280 Truth and Reconciliation Day. I think we exposed a great number of truths and hopefully one day it
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