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In this episode of The Western Standard, we're joined by Western Standard news editor Dave Nilsen and assistant editor and broadcast editor and host of The Pipeline, Cory Morgan, to discuss the latest on the situation with the Freedom Truckers and the ongoing protests in Alberta and Saskatchewan.
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Good evening, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching
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the pipeline today is february 9th 2022 uh i'm joined as usual today by western standard
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news editor dave nailer uh dave are your fingertips bleeding out you know it's just
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nice to get away from my desk even if it's just for a few minutes to spend with you
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oh that really warms my heart thanks thanks welcome uh a little less pleasantly uh also
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joined uh by western centered assistant opinion and broadcast editor and host of triggered cory
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morgan uh always a pleasure to get a chance to get in front of the camera again not enough for
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you no never not enough okay uh well we've got a great show today uh vaccine passports uh ending
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or actually technically have ended in alberta i believe scheduled to end in saskatchewan uh
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so we're going to discuss uh the reopening plans in both alberta and saskatchewan for premieres
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kenny and mo respectively uh not very fast i'd say um at least some of these fronts uh far too fast
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for any of the unions uh they think uh great two kids not wearing masks is gonna kill everyone
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uh so we're gonna get into that as well uh the freedom truckers i think that's just broadly what
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we call them because there's the freedom convoy then there's these blockades and stuff everywhere
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we'll just call them freedom truckers in general, even though there's now farmers and all sorts of
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big heavy equipment everywhere. No end in sight. Reopening plans in Alberta and Saskatchewan not
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aggressive enough for many of the protesters and absolutely nothing coming from Ottawa that would
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signal even an openness to consider reopening there. So it seems like there's no end in sight.
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We're going to get into there, what the police reaction has been, what the political reaction
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has been, and what do the Freedom Truckers plan on doing as this appears to be becoming
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drink anything but coffee or water on the air never absolutely we wouldn't do that no we wouldn't do
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that uh so you can drink your coffee or water out of a beautiful red and white western standard mug
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uh they just came in today i was got a nice heft too we're good to have you wait you will be the
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And then, like, you know, if anyone ever breaks
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I guess we're going to need some baseball caps.
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enough details to announce it yet, but it's coming.
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We've got big changes happening at the Western Standard.
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No sign of the federal Vax Pass coming to an end and not as word around the rest of the country, but not quite happening yet.
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Dave, run us through Alberta, then Saskatchewan.
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Maybe set the table then on the rest of the country.
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Premier Kenny last night got rid of the Vax Passport effective at midnight Wednesday.
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Pubs and restaurants, small venues don't have to have proofs of vaccination anymore.
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He said businesses can keep it, and certainly some in Calgary have already announced
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And the big change coming on Monday is no masking for kids at school.
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If things continue to trend in the right direction and there's no upward pressure
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on the healthcare system then on march 1st there's other restrictions that are coming down
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uh the saddle dome and uh rogers uh up in edmonton will be able to have full capacity games again
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uh what else corey is coming in on march 1st uh the late closures i think for uh bars and
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restaurants late closures and bars and restaurants the government was stopping
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covid from transmitting after 10 or 11 or whatever 11 o'clock yeah but now covid will transmit after
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11. all the way all the way till uh 2 a.m yeah so then covid can transmit after 11. this is
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this is you know i own a bar for years and i do understand a lot of diseases get transmitted
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after midnight particularly when there's been a lot of stuff served but it wasn't covid going
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around and no regulation is going to stop that yeah if you work on we can't get covid over your
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face maybe yeah well with face condoms is what you're supposed to have now yes yes she's a
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prophylactic yeah uh other most of the restrictions will be lifted uh on march 1st except for those
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uh affecting hospitals derek uh those protocols will remain in place until further notice and
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they're gonna have to see more of a more of a decline and uh and whatnot in those uh our
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Our neighbors, Saskatchewan, similar sort of plan.
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Premier Scott Moe announced this week that their VACS passport ends on Monday.
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Ontario, interestingly, came out today and said, no, we are not going to reduce any restrictions.
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We're not going to follow in Alberta and Saskatchewan's lead.
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And even though, you know, provinces are starting to lift restrictions, no sign from Prime Minister Trudeau that he's anywhere near lifting the restrictions.
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And, you know, we'll talk about what that's doing to truckers and our nation's capital a bit later.
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Yeah, so in the Alberta case, it seems that vaccine passport discrimination is going to be allowed to continue privately.
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I've got a weird libertarian view on discrimination that you should be allowed to discriminate for any grounds.
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If I don't want to hire Corey, if he had green hair, well, I should have a right to.
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I'm just an asshole, and I should pay the consequences of that.
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But private sector discrimination, well, it shouldn't be aided and abetted by the government.
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The government's continuing with the QR code here.
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So the government is still supporting private discrimination here.
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I think in the absence of a QR code, if a private business wanted to say, no, we're going to require a vaccine passport to get in, well, it'd be fine.
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But I don't think the government should be providing the vaccine passport, which is a tool of that discrimination.
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Yeah, somebody gets already there and it's talking about at least the choices at the door.
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If they say we demand to see your vaccination status, the prospective customer can say, no, kiss my butt and turn around and leave.
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as you said i'm kind of mixed on the government facilitating but uh it's gonna be funny to watch
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i mean we i've looked you know there's a couple of virtue signaling hipster style businesses saying
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we're gonna do it because we've got demands and more customers will come yeah right you know we
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see that sort of thing when they say that we're gonna end tipping or we're gonna pay a living
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wage at our restaurant and things like that hipsters don't spend they these guys will back
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off on that virtue signaling fast because you got 15 of your customer base who cannot come in even
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if they wanted to yeah and most restaurants and bars are thrilled to regain that because they're
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desperate right now especially in parts of the province primarily outside the two big cities
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where vaccination rates are lower a lot of people just have phony baloney vaccine passports which
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i'm fine with there's nothing wrong about deceiving a deceitful and authoritarian government
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um but what's going to happen now is now the ball is going to be in the court of business owners
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and i would uh very despite what someone like the place like the calgary chamber of commerce says
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there is a very good reason the western standard despite being headquartered in calgary is not a
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member of the calgary chamber of commerce they're absolutely terrible they go way beyond business
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stuff they're activists you'd think it was run by a bunch of socialists but it's apparently
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representing businesses that's why the western standard is in fact a member of the strathmore
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chamber of commerce the big uh big city of strathmore i did write a column about that
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today actually if you go to westernstandardonline.com you'll see it and i did include the
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fact that yes, the standard, I mean, a business organization, advocacy, getting together,
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networking is important, but the Calgary Economic Chamber is a joke. And that's why we
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have to explain why. And I explained why the standard's not part of it.
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In fairness, they do have to keep the QR code for airline travel, right? There's not a,
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you got to have that code to get on an airplane in Canada.
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Actually, I would say we don't. We should then put the ball on Ottawa's court and say,
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But in the meantime, for travelers who need it,
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we don't want to put our citizens through more headache.
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We should have absolutely nothing to do, I think, in facilitating this.
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If Ottawa then wants to start its own QR code, well, fine.
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But that's funny because they don't have access to the health care records
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because they're not allowed to because they have no control over health care.
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You can't ground citizens for an extended period.
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sure but they're still grounded no matter who did it yeah so don't let alberta be facilitating this
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kind of discrimination if if if we're gonna have vaccine passport because remember many albertans
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are grounded because they don't have vaccine passports they're already grounded so you put
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the ball in ottawa's court let them explain why albertans can't fly let them explain why albertans
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aren't allowed to get on a boat uh in a port or at least start the battle of pushing back and saying
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But yeah, for now, I mean, you don't want to, without notice.
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At least, you know, he's obviously trying to stretch it out.
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It's just like, you don't let the kids open every gift on Christmas Eve.
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So, or Hanukkah, you could really spread it out a while.
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Do you think it's going to be enough to decrease the political internal crisis he's in, Derek?
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So that's what I want to talk about now. It was quite strange seeing Kenny use the rhetoric of his anti-lockdown, anti-forced masking and vaccination opponents, largely.
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You know, that this is damaging. It's not doing anything. But these are incredible social costs. These are incredible costs to our liberties.
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he was talking the way we talk except he was talking about his own policies he was almost
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trying to co-opt his critics and saying uh yeah these things are bad we're going after it so it
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was quite bizarre he's using language that he decries as deplorable on monday but as soon as
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he agrees with it, it's fine on Tuesday. Corey, he's adopted some of the rhetoric here, but this
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is rhetoric slamming his own policies that he himself imposed. These were his choices to enact.
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Do you think this is going to ease up some of the political pressure on? No, he can't win.
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You know, he's trying, but I just can't see it. He's getting it from both sides now. The people
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want full opening, want it open. The crazed left want us to remain locked in our homes,
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And no matter what compromise he tries, they're going to be on him.
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I mean, I'm giving the thumbs up for some of the stuff he's done.
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But it reminds me of that Homer Simpson meme you always see where he's got the chef's hat and everything.
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All he does is pour a little bit of milk on some cereal or something and he blows up into flames.
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Nothing poor Kenny can do is just going to pull him out.
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Even if he, say, completely opened up today and went whole hog, right on, you know, struck him at night, everything 100% is gone.
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Is there enough forgiveness, though, for him from the people who, you know, generally that at least formally made up the base of the UCP?
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What do we have, 26 writing constituencies by the side?
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Yeah, it's the adjustment is too close to get to forgiving.
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You know, they were upset with him before these latest restrictions came down.
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But we've got a political cartoon up just, I think, the day before Kenny announced his plan for reopening.
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And it's kind of a take on the old Charlie Brown with the football being pulled away.
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And it's a picture of Kenny holding the football that says freedom because he's open and he's closed and he's open and he's closed.
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Maybe this is the last time we reopen and we're open for good.
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But we've heard open for summer, open forever, open for good.
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And he said last night that, hey, these could come back if things start trending the other way.
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that much. He has learned a little from burning.
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When he opened for good last summer, it was for good.
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It was never going to lock down again. It was never, never,
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for himself, so he has learned. But again, is it enough
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All right, so I'd say Moe's probably in a similar case,
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but I think there's less of an organized opposition
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The last time, you know, in the lead up to open for summer, you know, we had the rogue rodeos breaking out, you know, pretty big protests growing.
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And he was angry because he was seen, I think, rightfully to be dragged to reopening, kicking and screaming.
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He wanted to be able to announce this as his personal triumph, that he's the freedom fighter, not that he's being dragged there and he actually doesn't want to be.
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I think it's the same thing again. Without the blockaded coups, without the freedom convoy to
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Ottawa, I don't think this would be happening. But he did. He has at least partially and
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significantly caved to pressure here. But Trudeau is a different matter, because none of these
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people are probably Trudeau voters. Kenny needs these people to keep his leadership. And then
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after that, he needs them to keep the premiership. Trudeau doesn't need any of these people. And,
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And, you know, Trudeau's rhetoric has been decidedly confrontational, if not one-sided.
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And so the argument's being made, and I don't think this is an argument to end whatever's happening in Ottawa.
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I think they should end it on their own terms for maybe other reasons.
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But the argument's being made, and I think there might be something to it,
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that Trudeau will never reopen as long as they're there because he hates them.
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and they're a good thing for his base to point at the point of his base and say i'm against these
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guys because they're all racist fascist misogynists add in all the isms you'd like don't forget nazis
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nazis nazis and confederates um i'd like your take on this cory do you think actually that
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the freedom convoy in ottawa or and whatever it's morphed into now the camp around ottawa
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do you think there's any chance that trudeau ever reopens as long as they're there
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probably not but i mean both sides need an exit strategy here i worry about it's a building
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pressure that's the thing and uh i i think i mean having that member come out of trudeau's own
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caucus it's rare i mean those liberals stay tight typically i mean it's actually just a second there
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was another one there we go from quebec so i think i mean if anything justin is so intractable
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and almost in my view a little bit insane uh on a point of pride he might keep hanging on but i
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mean if you could just show a little bit of just respect and receptive to talking even and the same
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with the ones on the ground you can't say that we we demand the end of the government we demand
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trudeau to step down or any of that garbage and uh just show that there's an end game show there's
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a plan show there's a way out even if you aren't moving towards it accept that but right now both
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sides are entrenched and it's just i'm fearful actually it's a recipe for a big problem soon
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Our James Finkbeiner spent a week down at the Coots border, and he got some terrific photos that he put up today.
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They've got enough toilet paper to last a year down there.
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And James has got a nice photo spread on the website today.
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Just all the different stocks and stores and gasoline and propane that they've got down there.
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I've actually kind of jumped ahead because these things are so related.
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our next segment was going to be, there's no end in sight for this. Where is this going to go?
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So we're going to transition to that. But first, we just have to acknowledge another one of our
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Yeah, I think that's got to be a bilingual URL.
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I refuse to know enough French to know what that might be.
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because that trap shooting that you know doing that circuit
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and everything that's a riot a friend of mine Jamie took me out
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and boy what a good time that is I want you to take this clip we're making
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it's great oh it's a good time shoulder was sore for a few
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I made the mistake of, I haven't talked about shotguns for a long time here now, but I made the mistake, I had just a big giant bag of random shotgun shells.
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Yeah, so it wasn't just the little clay shooters, which are not, you know, they don't hurt at all.
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This bag, turns out two thirds of it was three and a half inch high powder steel shot for geese.
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And you can't see, but my shoulder is black and I do not bruise easily.
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You can punch me in the face right now, not an invitation, but you can punch me in the face, I probably won't bruise.
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I've got like a black shoulder because I probably fired a hundred and three and a half inch steel
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shot. Okay. Back to, uh, we're charging you for that, by the way, Silverwill. You haven't signed
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on as an average, as a sponsor yet, but we're sending you a bill for that one. Bill is in the
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mail. Yeah. Okay. Uh, so I, I, we already kind of got into this a bit. Uh, there is no end in
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sight though for, uh, the Freedom Truckers. This is, they're, they're hunkered in. Uh,
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But, Dave, tell us both the situation in Ottawa, Coutts, and Windsor and several others.
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Police say there's 400 truckers sort of in the downtown area.
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They say a quarter of those 400 have children living in them.
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Ottawa police say they're not going to seize any children.
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but holy cow, could you imagine if they did? That would send a-
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No, it would not go down well. So there's no negotiations going on with the feds.
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They are just encamped, much like their colleagues in Coutts. Now, the RCMP held a press conference
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this afternoon and said, enforcement is imminent. Now, take that what you want.
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for this for coots for coots enforcement is imminent now take that what you want it because
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it from the rcmp it could mean anything from going to hand a traffic ticket to sending in
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the swap well they said enforcement was underway before and we were we were providing live video
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of that yeah they kind of really didn't do much well it fizzled out i think one was
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while we were filming it live i didn't think they were expecting us to be there
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with we had huge viewership for it secondly as the as they were trying to come in looks
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like enforcement was underway of some kind. I think they were trying to clear it. All of a sudden,
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tons of tractors, farmers tractors blew the barricades and started flying down the ditches,
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flying Alberta. It's got to be embarrassing to the RCMP when a John Deere blows right by.
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Eric, what training have you got though? I mean, how do you stop that?
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how do you deal with it well these aren't like standard uh yeah you don't want to shoot at well
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they're also not the typical violent you know you know and most lefty vote protesters let's be clear
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are not violent might disagree with what they're doing most of them aren't violent but there tends
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to be a significantly larger violent subsection of them there's been no violent subsections of
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any of these protests um so you know i mean people who are unarmed who have not committed
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any acts of assault or aggression, it's really hard to justify sending in tear gas and lodges.
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Those tractors went around the police barricade. They could have. They had the power and ability
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to push right through them. It would have been a terrible idea. It would have been good video,
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but yeah, bad, bad idea. On to Windsor, which may be the most economically problematic place.
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Monday evening, they completely shut down the Ambassador Bridge over to Michigan, Detroit.
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the whole thing they completely shut it down by tuesday morning they had opened up uh one lane
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you know all the rigs were parked uh on the side as one lane uh uh goes open uh traffic chaos the
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police are telling truckers to go on a uh 200 kilometer uh detour uh to get into the states
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it's it's normally a four minute wait at the ambassador bridge but this is this is a bridge
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that brings in 17% of all the imported goods into Canada a huge figure I think
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I read somewhere today hundred and seventy billion dollars worth of goods
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come across that bridge unless I'm mistaken more trade crosses that bridge
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than any other port of entry on the planet 10 the single bit busiest trade
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bridge in the world 10,000 trucks today go over that bridge normally that's
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that's just huge traffic so I think that's probably the government's biggest
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headache right now how to how to get those trucks out of there so full flow can resume normally
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um everywhere it seems that they're they're packing in i can't say in windsor if they
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built camps the way they have but in but in coots in ottawa these guys are packed in they're they're
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ready like they're not just a bunch of dirty hippie squatting in the park these guys have
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brought fuel, food, bouncy castles, and saunas.
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and a big announcement about it when they spent the night
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trying to interdict and stop some gas and diesel coming in.
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and it showed that they took a whole bunch of protesters
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but they're all walking all at once towards it.
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You don't know which ones actually have this stuff
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which don't you don't have the resources to stop them all they're telling the the telling police
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that it's water well some of them some of the jerry cans are water some of them are empty and
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some of them are surely gasoline or diesel and are the police going to just start arresting people
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for carrying empty jerry cans of water when you when you see the little old lady with two jerry
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cans walking along you know she's probably empty you never know those old bitties sometimes i would
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You put the diesel on her because you really don't want to, you don't want to arrest Oma, she'll kick your ass. That's bad DV.
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The other problem the RCMP have, okay, so they go in and arrest these truckers, haul them out.
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They don't have a tow truck to move these things.
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There's not a tow truck company in southern Alberta that wants to deal with this.
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You know, so, all right, let's arrest the truckers, but you still got, you know, 40, 50 trucks blocking the border.
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I mean, how big a holding facility do they have?
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Well, I'm sure they could put them in a field somewhere.
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Like, the holding facility is probably not the biggest issue.
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It's, you can't, if a trucker does not want his truck moved, that truck is extremely difficult to move.
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You would, what they would probably need to do, if they want to clear Ottawa, is they're going to have to tear gas people.
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They're going to have to beat them up and drive them out in a place full of kids, people who have not committed any acts of violence themselves yet.
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even if you agree or disagree with their actions and i know some people who support what they're
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doing but don't think it's the right way to do it at this point they should go home whatever
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but it would it would be extraordinarily violent to just clear them out but even if you clear them
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out you're going to need probably big cranes and you need to pick these things up and put them on
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massive flatbeds it would take them at least a week to clear them out yes and so again that's
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I'm sure some of them are getting tired sitting in those barricades.
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I'm sure some of them are just saying, look, I want an out.
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If I can see some progress, I'll fire this thing up and drive out.
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But again, as long as Prime Minister Hammerhead's in there,
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won't even touch the issue, if only when he pop his head up to insult them
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and inflame them even further, they're entrenched.
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I think certainly in coots, you're down to the hardcore.
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You know, those who wanted to make their point on the weekend, stayed overnight.
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The people that are down there now are there for the long haul.
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It looked like the cavalry came in for reinforcements.
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I was thinking why they need the toilet paper supplies.
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I mean, you go outside, you let go of that paper.
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We're going to cut Corey off before he gets any more graphic about his experiences.
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I wasn't going to tell you what you do with sweetgrass in that experience.
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Well, that's an excellent point in which to cut it off,
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because I can just tell Corey is going to say something that's going to get us cancelled.
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Well, you've heard Corey Morgan's newest show coming up,
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Okay. Well, Dave, Corey, thank you very much for joining me today. And thank all of you for
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Yes. Absolutely. No, go home. It's late. All right. Thank you very much and God bless.
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