2 OBNOXIOUS Rude Girls KICKED OUT! 1 RAGE QUIT？! The MOST Beautiful Panel EVER？？？ ｜ Dating Talk #226
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7 hours and 15 minutes
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186.13664
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414
Summary
On this week's episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have our first guest on the show, a 24-year-old college dropout and musician from Atlanta, Georgia named Jake. We talk about what it was like growing up in a military family and how he ended up in the music industry, how he got into music, and what it's like being a musician in the big city.
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Uh, we are working to ban cosmetic labiaplasty procedures in the United States, 10,000
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and a year, total tragedy, pressing issue of our time. Uh, Jake over here is on the board of
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We have a discord discord.gg slash whatever. We post behind the scenes, hate mail, bunch of other
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cool stuff. Got a really solid community over there. Uh, we, we last week we had like a pretty
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crazy scenario and the security cameras caught it. So I think I'm going to try to get that posted
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soon. But if you check the behind the scenes tab here, we have the sort of security camera footage.
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It wasn't all caught on camera during the live stream of the four foot 10 Krav Maga baddie
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trying to rear naked choke six foot four. Eric illesophical did not go well. Uh, and so if you
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want to check that out a different angle, see the carnage, be sure to check out discord.gg slash
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whatever disclaimer, the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the
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whatever channel. With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce
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themselves. So please tell us your name, age, location, occupation, and education. Go ahead.
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What's going on. I'm forever the rebel. I'm 24. Um, I'm from Chicago, but I live in Atlanta,
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came all the way to LA out here for this. Um, I'm a musician and a business owner. I own my own studio
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and people pay me to record their music. Um, I have a certification in audio engineering and I played
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a guitar. Nice. Oh man. We should have had you bring a instrument or something. Yeah. Maybe next
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time. And any education, like any college or anything like that? I was in the military, so I didn't go to
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college. I was in the air force, air force enlisted or you went in as enlisted. Yeah. Enlisted. Um,
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I was in there for two years and then I left, uh, for medical reasons and then like a medical
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discharge. Yeah, it was like a medical discharge. And then, uh, I went and got my certification in
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audio engineering. So that's my, what were you, what was your job, I guess, in the military? Uh,
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I was an engineer. So basically I made the blueprints and floor plans for my base. Yeah. All right.
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Got it. And you have a grill. Is that what, what is that called? A grill? Yeah. Okay. You're
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going to get the tops done or yeah, I'm definitely going to get the tops. I'm going to be, I'm
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going to be blinged out soon. I definitely, I'm a rapper. Get it. Wait, can we, can we hear
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a little, I don't know, like, you sing, you sing, I, I, I, I'm more of a rock star. So I do a little
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rap, but I definitely rap. Give us a little, give us a couple bars. Yeah, I got you. I can
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give you a little four piece. Um, yo, yo. Hi, nice to meet you. My name is forever.
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We could talk about relationships and put it together. We could chill on my podcast.
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How about whatever, man? I hope one of these girls, man, we leaving together.
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There we go. Okay. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I just came off the top with it.
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That was good. That was good. Thank you for having me. That'll be our new intro for the podcast.
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Whatever. Sweet. Awesome. Thank you, Rebel. What about you?
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Hi, I'm Roxanna Vina, and I am from Santa Barbara. Okay. I actually grew up in Rhode
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Island. Okay. From Rhode Island. Yeah. Go ahead. And I own a spa called Femme Fatale Beauty.
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Femme Fatale. Okay. And I'm also a real estate agent, and, um, I used to work for Playboy as
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well. Nice. Like the magazine or? Um, yeah. So it was, it was, um, since, since 18 that I've
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been working on and off with them. Okay. But I have three children. Three kids. Wow.
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Yeah. So I had to stop at some point. Same, same father? Same father. Same guy. Are you
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married or? Well, I guess we can get into that later. Yeah. I'm, yeah. And, um, uh, any school
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or anything like that? Um, yeah. So I went to Rhode Island College. Okay. And then, um. You got
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your associates, bachelors? I got, like, a bachelor of arts there for communications,
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public relations. Mm-hmm. And then, um, then I furthered my career with, uh, the real
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estate. Sure. And then also cosmetology school for being an esthetician. Got it. Age? Um,
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I am 47. 47. Okay. Got it. What about you? Good morning, children. My name is Elena. I'm
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from Ukraine. Wait, say that again. Good morning, children. Wake up. We are in whatever
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podcast. Can you, instead of children, can you say comrades? Go ahead. Comrades? Comrades.
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Who is this? Comrades. Am I English? Not good. I'm from Ukraine. Well, exactly. Comrades.
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Comrades. Good morning, comrades. Good morning, comrades. Okay. Perfect. Good. Okay. My name
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is Elena. I'm from Ukraine. I live in Miami. I am singer, songwriter, host, comedian, actress,
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do events, and also work as a bartender. All right. I'm 37. Uh, and any school or anything
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like that? Yeah. I have a master's degree. I have two education. In, in childhood education,
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you said? Huh? The master's degree. It's in childhood? No, no, no. It's a finance. Oh,
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finance. Okay. Got it. And, uh, age? 37. 37. Got it. Okay. What about you? Hello. I'm
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Ayana. I'm 23. Um, I'm from California or Baltimore. It doesn't matter. Uh, Baltimore?
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Yes. That's where I was raised for a long time. What was that for? I don't know. And
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I'm a singer. I was going to do that for Chicago too. Baltimore takes the cake. Okay. Singer?
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Yeah. Uh, and, uh, education? Uh, yeah. I went to SBCC. Got your associates? No, I didn't
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finish yet. Okay. Still working on it. Still working on it. Yeah. Let's hear, uh,
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Etta James. What's that song? Uh, all right. Ready? You know, you know which one I'm talking
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about. At last, my love has come along. My lonely days are over. And life is like a song.
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Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. At last. Yes. That was good. Wait, then you're a singer too. All right. Let's
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hear it. Wait, do you sing also? You sing? No, I sing pretty bad. Okay, then don't do that. But
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what about you? What should I sing? Well, you said you're a singer, right? Yes. Are you a rapper
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too? No, no, no. Ukrainian rap is not popular. Okay. Uh, give us something. Sing. Um, you want
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Ukrainian? You want American? American? No, wait. Yes. Sure. Yeah. American. Okay, clear
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that. Whoa. Okay. Wow. All right. Oh, excuse me. You're putting everybody on a spot. I know.
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I know. That's good. Especially you got to follow her up too. That's, yeah, that's rough.
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It was. You want to see what your eyes, what you see. How can I be what you want it to
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be? You frozen when your heart's not open. If I could melt your heart. We'd never be apart.
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Wow. All right. Very cool. Very cool. Uh, what about you? Natalie, I'm 49. March 15 is my
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birthday. Happy birthday. There's what? Audios. Give me one sec, guys. We are getting a couple
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reports of a couple audio issues here and there. Give me one sec. Somebody saying sound
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is fine. Uh, audio issues. Got to refresh. Uh, one sec, guys. Sometimes it's, uh, give me
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one sec, guys. Um, the audio issue is her voice. What? Uh, members, members, uh, how's the audio?
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Is the audio okay? Or is it, I did a couple changes to it. So, I mean, I'm not, there could
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be reports of differences in the audio. Um, but can you let me know if the audio is okay,
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members? The singing was the problem. Okay. You see the Ukrainian man comment? Yeah. Uh,
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okay. I'll listen to it after the, uh, introductions, but for now, I think we're, uh, internet problems
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too. I don't know. Uh, I think it's fine. Mods. Is it mod chat? Can you tell me if it's fine?
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Sorry, guys. Just one moment here. Uh, give us just a moment, guys. Just another day. Uh,
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just another day. Technical difficulties, audio difficulties. Thank you for your patience,
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guys, while my team is looking into any audio issues here. I think it's fine for now, but if
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it continues, I'll take another look at it. Sorry for the interruption. Um, won't you introduce
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yourself? Natalie, 49. Uh, recently moved to Oxnard Shore from Manhattan beach. I'm a French
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Portuguese. I'm a PA. I have three medical cosmetic offices, Ventura, Malibu, and Manhattan beach. I
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love what I do. Single parent, very proud to my Marine boy. He's just became a captain in, uh,
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Camp Pendleton. Woo. Uh, Marines. Yes. Marines. And he's an, he's an officer. No, my son was an
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officer. Now he's a captain. Got it. Okay. He didn't go in enlisted though. No, he went, uh,
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he went to college and then, yeah, he played water polo for UCI. Got it. Okay. And, uh, you said
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you're a PA. So a physician assistant. Yeah. Got it. Okay. And I do injection and I very
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much upset with the comment you guys said on the labia. All my friends in the industry
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are very pro labia, uh, surgery. So you guys say you're against and you protesting it, but
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a lot of many surgeons that I know will go out of business. It's a very popular procedure.
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Excuse me. Ha ha. Ha ha. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. We're going to have to save the labia
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debate for later, but, uh, I, uh, it's my industry. I know how it goes. They, I mean, they fly here
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from all over the world to get it done. It's your industry, but it's his passion. Because women that
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do vaginal birth, they have to get some repair. So I'm just saying it's not all the time, but
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not all the time, but most, we've had three kids. I've had three. Did you have, what is
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it called? Vaginal repair? Vaginal, uh, vaginal rejuvenation, but vaginal birth is different.
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The vagina is fine. Is the vagina fine? It's fine. It's fine. She's had three kids. The vagina
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is fine. I had the C-section. It's very fine. But I'm just saying the industry is very high
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demand. I don't say about us. I say the industry is very high demand. Do you do labiaplasty?
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No, I have many friends that do it and I know how it's done. Let me know. I'm going to protest.
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I did 12 years plastic surgery and it's a very high demand. I'm sad about that. I'm sad about that.
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Women like it tighter because the man is asked for it. Like what? Women like it to be tighter
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because the man asked for it. But the labiaplasty, that's like the skin on the outside. Yeah, the lip.
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That doesn't make it tighter though. But the lip, if you get the lip, you want to get it
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all done. I'm just saying it's the industry. Well, some women just get the labiaplasty, but
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I mean, you know. I don't know. Jake, have you ever run into like, like, have you ever run
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into like loose? I've never run into one. Have you, have you put your penis in one day? I may
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have been counted one. Or use your, your fingers. Bro, it's like, bro, loose pussy's rare. Rare.
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Yeah. And you can, you kegels. Anyways, whatever. Um, good talk. Already talking about vaginas
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five minutes into the show. Okay. Um, well, we'll have the debate later then. What about
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you? Uh, my name's Callie. Yep. I'm 31. 31. All right. I am a creator, model, and I have
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a cannabis brand. Sweet. And, uh, oh, where are you from? I'm originally from the Bay
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Area, but I live in Vegas. A little closer. I'm originally from the Bay Area, but I live
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in Vegas. You're in Vegas. And any school, college, anything like that? Yeah. I went to
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a university, but I didn't finish. Did you get your associates or? No. Okay. Got it.
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And I looked on your Instagram. You've, you have a billboard in the desert. That's cool.
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Yeah. I was right before you got to Vegas from LA. Nice. Have you, has it, has the billboard
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campaign? Has it resulted in some good traffic or? No. It's not working. Are you regretting
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the billboard? I don't regret it at all. It was good for like getting my name out there,
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but. Oh, wait, one question. Are those corrective lenses? Is it like blue light or? No. Because
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I feel like we need to see your face, you know? Are you down to take them off? No, I like to
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wear them. I'll give you a $2. Do you know how much this is worth? I'll give you a $2 bill to
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take them off for the rest of the show. I don't need $2. Those are bad. You don't need
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$2, but you need a $2 bill. They look like Elvis. Do you have any $2 bills? No. Have
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you ever had a $2 bill? I have a $2 bill. Do I need a $2 bill? You need, you need it. No.
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This is to re-up your billboard campaign. You can put it towards that. Save it for a rainy
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day, AKA today. I said I have a cannabis brand. I think I'm good. Good talk. Good talk. What about
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you? What's up? I'm Ava. Okay. Welcome. Siren SB from SB. 805. Yeah. I was in cosmetology
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school. I did esthetician school. So I do aesthetics. I teach dance as well. Salsa, bachata. Bachata.
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Nice. I do that too. Really? Not really. Doesn't look like it. I definitely don't do it. Age?
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24. 24. All right. Welcome back. What about you?
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What's good, y'all? It's your girl Yams, Yamile Fuentes. Born and
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raised here in Santa Barbara, 805. Baby. I am 24 years old. I am a business
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administration major and a dancer. And I also rap, so I'm gonna have to hop in your
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studio because everyone's been flaking on me. Let's go.
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You said Fuentes? Yes. Are you a grouper? Oh, bro. Seriously, dude. A lot of artists
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in here. Oh my God. I like that. A lot of creators. All right. Go ahead, Jake. Yes, we
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all go home with you. Jake, YouTube channel, Rattlesnake TV podcast, reality-based podcast and
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travel channel, Rattlesnake Travel, where we've just released a video shooting big, big weapons
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with Andrew Wilson. And you guys will enjoy that all down below. All right, guys, going around
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the table once more, we're getting into everybody's relationship status. So if you're single, how
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long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
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Single, been single for like a year. And my longest relationship was four years on and off
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towards the last year, but like four years. Yeah.
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Yeah, but it was like four years in total. Like it was on and off, but I say four years
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for real. Cause I really wasn't talking to anybody else during those four years.
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Okay. Got it. Uh, you said, when you say on and off, so it was like there'd be periods.
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Yeah. Like we break up, then, uh, you know, I'd be the person chasing, you know, and I'd be
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like, Hey, come back. Let's like, let's work it out. And then we get back together for a couple
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more months and then maybe on and off type situation. You know how it is. You know, we
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all get together with our exes. You see, especially like that was my first relationship. So it was
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I say like three, four, five, three, four, five.
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Um, like we would break up for different reasons, but like, like the last times, like she would
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be starting getting mean to me out of nowhere. And then if, if I didn't feel like I did anything
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wrong, we ended up breaking up or we just, it'd be something stupid. Like we shared a
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money together and it died and she blamed it on me and we broke up and that'd be a breakup
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for a couple months or something like that. It just was like little stupid things like that.
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But like I said, it was my first relationship. So I didn't know what I was doing all the way.
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Okay. Um, and, uh, you were a lesbian. Yeah. Are a lesbian. Can you tell us there was a
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transition? You kind of went viral recently. Yeah. Uh, let me know the details. Yeah. I,
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you know, I like, I like girls. Um, that's my preference, but it just in recently in 2024,
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really, um, I was just having some issues with girls not reciprocating my energy. I just felt like
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I was giving everything and not getting anything. And I just, at a certain point I'm tired. Cause
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like, I'm not, I'm a STEM. Like I like, I like to switch it up, put on some lashes to shit too.
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I'm a princess too. So you're going to have to treat me like that. And so I had to switch
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over to guys and give guys a chance and you know, I'm having fun. I'm having fun. You know what I'm
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saying? It's fun not having to do everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm
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saying? Like, I hate driving. Like simple stuff like that. Like you don't, girls don't appreciate
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it sometimes. And it's just like, I just want somebody that, you know, I want a girlfriend.
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You hate driving? Yeah. I don't like driving. Like it's not fun. So you need a man to drive
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for you? I'm not saying I don't need it, but I would prefer to be in the passenger seat for
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sure. I feel like everybody would. And, um, like I want a girlfriend, but a girlfriend doesn't
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want me. So I'm talking to guys right now. It's easier to get guys too. So they're so
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easy. They're so easy. So yeah. Oh, did you have a question? Okay. Um, but yeah, I've been
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having fun since I switched. Metro Matt donated 200 dollars. Yo, thank you, Matt. Sorry for
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the delay. What in the DEI panel? Daddy Trump already banned this. Send these 300 and fours
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back to the loony bin. Sorry for the delay Metro Matt. We were just getting through the
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intro and then the audio issues threw me off. But yo, Metro Matt, thank you so much, man.
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For the TTS. I am not 304. Does anybody want to respond to anybody? 304. Loony bin, 304, DEI,
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Daddy Trump. Okay. All right. Thank you, Metro Matt. Appreciate it guys. W's in the chat for
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Metro Matt, big time supporter over there. Good, good homie in the discord too. Relationships
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status. Go ahead. Yes. So, um, I was married for 20 years, just recently got divorced and
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I'm with, um, the one I truly love. Um, we are, have been in a relationship for like three
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years almost. Gotcha. Wait, a couple of clarifying questions here. Um, your marriage, you were
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married for 20 years and together for how long with the individual? Um, with my boyfriend
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now. No, no. So you said you were married for 20 years. Is that correct? Yes. But you were
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dating? Oh, we were only dating for like six months. Oh, okay. So I mean together like
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20 years. Yeah. And I, I got married when I was 24. Married at 24. And then, so you got
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divorced at 44. Um, I got divorced. Uh, well it, it got finalized last year. Last year.
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Okay. It took a long time to get finalized. A couple clarifying questions on this. You said
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you, and you initiated the divorce? Yes. Okay. But you've been with the man who you truly
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love? Is that, or what did you, how did you describe it? Um, the love of my life. Love
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of your life. You've been in a relationship with three years. Three years. Uh, how, what,
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um, how soon after you initiated the divorce did you begin your new relationship? Well, it's
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a little bit complicated because, well, my, my boyfriend would like act like he's gay.
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And like, he would, he like pretend he was gay. Right. And like, um, but my, my ex knew
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we had kind of an open relationship. And so, um, because I had children, like he would come
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over the house and I didn't want to be, we didn't want to be like, well, this is my lover,
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you know? So we went through that, um, phase of maybe about six months to a year of just
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kind of like, you know, pretend how, what's that pretend to be gay. How? Oh yeah. Like
00:24:12.280
he would just, he would just act like, like just in front of the kids, you know, like, but
00:24:18.460
like my, my ex knew, you know, and he had his own relationships over the years and stuff.
00:24:24.240
He's, you know, so your ex-husband. Yes. Um, wait, so I'm a little, was, are you alleging
00:24:31.840
there's infidelity? Um, yes. Okay. Yes. But, um, on your end or his or both? Um, I would
00:24:40.340
say on his end, but, um, he, if you ask him, he would say that I was being, um,
00:24:48.460
uh, not, you know, not true. But the thing is, is that, okay, he, he had, you know, his
00:24:55.500
flings here and there, he would travel a lot. And then I would, um, and then finally I, I
00:25:01.380
found somebody, um, and we had an open relationship. And so he knew that we were lovers. And so,
00:25:10.900
you know, technically I'm not like cheating. Do you know what I mean?
00:25:17.220
Because it's an open relationship. Oh, you had an open marriage? Yeah. For the whole marriage?
00:25:22.660
Not for the whole marriage. I would say the last like year and a half, two years.
00:25:28.420
So how you, this guy you've been dating for three years, when did you meet him?
00:25:33.120
I met him, uh, while I was still married, I met him the last like two years of our marriage.
00:25:42.560
So, um, so yeah, we were together for like a full year and then the divorce happened and
00:25:48.840
then that divorce was like taking like forever, like a year. And then now we're, we're together
00:25:54.880
like. That was the guy that you were truly in love with. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was really
00:26:00.500
young when I got married, you know, and he was 10 years older than me. Was there any,
00:26:06.520
when the marriage was still some semblance of still together, was your current boyfriend
00:26:14.580
in the picture? Um, what do you mean by that? Well, it appears there's a bit of crossover between
00:26:21.920
the time you met your now love of your life boyfriend and the time when you were still
00:26:26.460
married. Yes, there was a crossover. Okay. And that's when he was like pretending to
00:26:30.480
be gay. For the kids. For the kids. Yeah. So wait, while you were still living with
00:26:36.920
your ex-husband, you're inviting over your true lover who pretended to be gay in front
00:26:45.480
of your kids. Why did I'm just, but now are you open? Are you open? Do your kids know that
00:26:55.240
you're dating him? Oh yeah. They totally know. Yeah. How old are the kids? So how did you
00:27:00.100
explain to them that he's not gay and he's like hitting? Your boyfriend. Um, so, so that
00:27:06.240
took a long time. You know, we had like therapists, we had like, um. For the kids? Yeah. Couldn't
00:27:12.700
he have just shown up as a friend? Yeah. But that was like. About the divorce or about the
00:27:17.180
gay, not actually gay lover. No, no, no. Just about the divorce and stuff. Okay. But like,
00:27:23.340
um, no, they're, they're, they're fine now. You know, they, you know, I have 50 50, so they
00:27:31.000
come over. Um, you know, me and my boyfriend live together and like, um, it's great. You know,
00:27:37.940
we get along very well. Um, you know, we take the kids out, we go on trips together, you
00:27:44.840
know, it's fine now. Okay. Yeah. All right. So your husband knew that, did your husband
00:27:51.060
know that you were sliding with the other guy and he was cool with it? Oh, cause I was
00:27:56.420
open. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. Yeah. I was going to say. Somebody's saying annoying
00:28:01.080
bracelet. Does somebody have like a noisy bracelet on? Oh, maybe me? I have one of my
00:28:05.200
earrings. Oh. No, it's this one. Yeah. There's like a clinking. It's your earrings. I think
00:28:11.000
it's the earrings. Um, anyways, if you can deal with that, but what about you? Relationship
00:28:15.480
status? Um, I'm single. Three years. Searching for my new life. Three years, you said? Yes.
00:28:22.480
Okay. And, um, longest relationship? Two years. Sorry. Did you say two or three? Uh,
00:28:30.540
the longest two years. I'm single three years. I see. Okay. And, uh, when did you, you're
00:28:36.540
from Ukraine? When did you move to Miami? Uh, two years ago. Two? Exactly two years ago.
00:28:43.300
And was that like at the outbreak of the Ukrainian war? Yeah. Okay. So you moved to Miami, you've
00:28:48.940
been single for three years. So, uh, and when you moved from Ukraine, you went straight
00:28:53.680
to Miami or were you somewhere else? Yes, to Miami straight. Okay. Why did you pick
00:28:56.960
Miami? Not me pick, God pick. God pick? Okay. You know, um, it's funny. That is the last
00:29:02.720
place on earth God would pick. No, you know, when I was a child, I was dreamed to live in
00:29:07.120
Hollywood and God heard my dreams and he brought me to Hollywood, but Miami, I didn't say to
00:29:12.480
God which one I want. So he chose the Miami. I didn't know that Hollywood have Florida.
00:29:18.600
God hates Hollywood. Yes. And it's in my, all my documents is Hollywood address. Yes. Um,
00:29:23.840
and so tell us a bit about your, uh, I mean, you moved to Miami and you've been single for three
00:29:31.940
years, but you've gone on dates, right? Yes. In fact, in your notes, if I seem to recall,
00:29:35.980
you said you've been on a hundred dates. Many years. You've dated, uh, is it more than a hundred
00:29:41.080
or like exactly a hundred? You gave up at a hundred? I don't know why I just came because actually I came
00:29:44.820
completely alone to America. I didn't know anyone. So I needed to, um, meet as most possible people to
00:29:51.000
understand what's going on in this country. And you know, when you're meeting the people,
00:29:55.260
you know, the information. And do you have like a refugee status? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. And so do you,
00:30:02.040
do you receive support from the United States government? No, no. Like any money? It was,
00:30:07.420
it was in the beginning, uh, they offer you like $200 for food and, uh, insurance.
00:30:14.100
Health insurance. Uh, health, uh, health insurance for six months and I think food stamps also for
00:30:21.340
six months. Okay. And then they just give you like $200 cash. Okay. No, no, no. Oh, you can choose,
00:30:27.080
you can choose like 200 food stamps. Like, I see. Okay. Um, and then is, does that expire the refugee
00:30:34.660
status or? Uh, soon it will be expired. Yes. And will you have to go back to Ukraine or? And we wait in
00:30:41.120
what Trump will make the new law of what we're going to do. And so, but you said you went on a
00:30:47.240
hundred dates. Yes. Okay. And where would you typically meet these men on dating apps? Yes.
00:30:53.580
And would you go out to like nightclubs and bars? Also, yes. How often do you go out to nightclubs
00:30:58.900
and bars? Now or before I am, uh, because, uh, when I just came to America one year, I was very,
00:31:05.680
very hyperactive. I was everywhere in clubs and events. First, first year you go out two times a
00:31:11.980
week, three times a week. Something like this. Yes. But now I have a lot of jobs, so I don't have
00:31:16.220
time for dating. So I think. I see. Okay. And so you would meet men at nightclubs and bars or how
00:31:22.460
would you meet them? Easily. My hihi ha hazi coming to me to talk. Different. Different? Like?
00:31:30.800
You know, I come, I found a lot of Russian speaking bars. So where is the people from my
00:31:35.960
country or from any other USSR country. So it was very easy to talk to them. And some other men I
00:31:42.120
met in dating apps. Which part of Ukraine are you from? I'm from city Vinytsa. It's central part,
00:31:47.900
but also I was live 10 years in Kiev. It's the capital of Ukraine. And, uh, dating apps.
00:31:55.940
Did you use any dating apps? No, not. Okay. It's too much wasting of time. Uh, and you did say,
00:32:03.040
well, we won't get, we'll come back to it, but you said that, uh, you've been on a hundred dates
00:32:09.760
and nearly nobody called you back and invited you for a second date. Yes. So of the hundred first
00:32:16.540
dates you had, how many went to a second date? Maybe only a couple. Like two, three, five. I don't know.
00:32:23.620
Something like this. And then would you, uh, some of these first dates, like, would you hook up with
00:32:29.080
them? Hook up? Sex? No. Go back to their place, have sex? No. I'm old fashioned girl. No, no. You're
00:32:36.560
an old fashioned girl? Yes. What does that mean? It's me, no sex. Until when? Until I feel love.
00:32:44.000
Has that always been the case? Huh? Has that always been the case? Of course. My mama raised me very
00:32:50.840
good. My mama have only one father and they took us a 40 years and they have a four beautiful children
00:32:57.400
and I have a normal standards in my head. So I think if my love me, he can a little bit wait. Isn't?
00:33:04.740
So you've been celibate for three years. What? Well, I mean, you said, I mean, you.
00:33:13.220
It's a, it's a, it's a, let's not think about that. But so it sounded like, uh, three, four,
00:33:21.620
five of the first dates. There's like a second date. What's the furthest any of these guys got
00:33:27.340
date five? Were any of them your boyfriend or no? Oh my God. It's, I need to remind. Uh,
00:33:35.720
I have some friends with who are still speaking, um, but I didn't get any relationship. Like
00:33:41.280
I didn't feel love or something. When you say you have friends who you're still speaking
00:33:45.940
with. Of course. Yes. You still see them. Yeah. Keep in touch. Not like it dates for like
00:33:50.900
speaking. For sex. No. But hold on. I'm confused. You said you're old fashioned. Yes. You said
00:33:57.260
you're traditional. Yes. You don't have sex on the first date. Yes. Second date. No. Third
00:34:01.700
date. Maybe. Okay. Third date. But you haven't been celibate the entire time that you've been
00:34:07.240
in Miami. Celibate means not having sex. She also said there was a couple of people out of
00:34:14.360
that hundred dates. Yeah. That seemed to go a little further, but I mean, I'm just trying
00:34:19.480
to get a sense of how old fashioned we're talking here. Let's keep it secret. Sure. Okay.
00:34:27.260
Got it. Don't kiss and tell. Well, we'll come back to the hundred date thing. But what
00:34:34.260
about you? Relationship status? I'm in a relationship. What would I say? Yeah, my man. Thank you to
00:34:40.540
my man. It is a man, right? Yeah, this time. Okay. This time. How long have you guys been
00:34:45.860
together? About six months. Six months. And then your longest relationship? Five years.
00:34:51.380
Five years. Five years. All right. What about you? My longest relationship was 12 years. I'm
00:34:59.100
25 years in the US. So 12 out of it. And I've been single since the 2019. Went on many dates,
00:35:10.320
months, but nothing evolved. Some of them we stay friends. Some of them want more, but I couldn't see
00:35:18.840
myself investing anything more than just see you. And were you married?
00:35:29.320
I was married. Yeah. The 12 year relationship? Yes. Is that the only time you've been married?
00:35:34.460
Yes. And you have one son? One son. With the guy you were married to? Yes. Okay. And then you guys
00:35:40.340
got divorced? Got divorced. Yeah. Who initiated the divorce? It was amicable because he wanted to move
00:35:46.980
to Tennessee. And I wanted to stay with my son. What a polo career. And I said, I will follow you.
00:35:53.820
And then you meet somebody. And I said, okay. Didn't mean to be. And we stay friend. Sure. And you're, um,
00:36:01.820
you said, as far as your location, you're from France. I'm French Portuguese. Born in Paris. Born in Paris.
00:36:08.620
Did you live in Portugal at all or no? No. My dad is from Portugal. My mom is Parisian.
00:36:14.700
Huh. And I was raised in Tel Aviv. I did my military service there for two and a half years.
00:36:22.100
Mm-hmm. And then I come to Greece. I live in Greece for six years. And then I come to the U.S.
00:36:29.460
I see. Okay. And you said in starting in 2019, I think this is after.
00:36:34.640
2019, I decide I invest more in myself and grow my business. And, um, plus it was all the lockdown.
00:36:45.000
People were afraid. So it was a good opportunity to really build myself, my brand, my everything, more training,
00:36:56.080
more getting into health. I study a little bit astrology and I really like it.
00:37:02.540
So I think people, when they date somebody, they should consider a little bit astrology
00:37:07.860
and see maybe it's compatible or not, I think. But many people go blinded into something they don't know.
00:37:17.520
So maybe the astrology gives you a map of what is good for you, what is not good for you.
00:37:24.260
And you can cut it shorter or build a little bit longer.
00:37:28.740
But on the other hand, I met many very compatible on paper people to me, but mentally and emotionally
00:37:41.440
And you said in 2019, you did quite a bit of dating. Is that correct?
00:37:45.600
No. In 2019, I decided I just not going to date. I'm going to invest in myself.
00:37:52.240
What you, I don't recall the precise year then, but you said after your divorce, you did, you were dating quite a lot.
00:38:01.500
I was dating, going on dates. I still go on dates.
00:38:05.080
Yeah. How many, like per week on average, like how many dates do you go on?
00:38:11.940
Yeah. Or I mostly meet people organic when I go out.
00:38:21.920
I think the online is just a shortcut to get more information quicker, easier.
00:38:30.080
But my personal opinion, I don't think men is as masculine as it should be.
00:38:44.280
I think the cesspool of the dating apps and all this is just a very visible thing for people to look and see you.
00:38:59.580
How old I am? I'm 49. I'm going to be March 15, 15.
00:39:12.120
You mentioned that you say that men are not masculine.
00:39:16.840
I think men, masculine, that know what he wants and he knows his value.
00:39:22.500
His approach is very elegant, assertive, and planning and creating and putting the effort.
00:39:33.480
When you have one thing in mind to just go between the sheets.
00:39:46.800
I want to explore this masculine thing really soon, though.
00:39:52.680
You say a lot of men aren't masculine, but do you consider yourself feminine?
00:40:05.820
Because my profession and my success, you think I'm not?
00:40:08.980
Well, I mean, I don't think this is like overly exposing anything, but so we have rules here
00:40:16.120
in the studio and we asked you to take your shoes off and you said, why?
00:40:24.320
Here's the thing with being submissive or even just following anybody's rules.
00:40:34.400
As a woman, if you're going to be submissive and I tell you, you don't question my authority in the room.
00:40:39.720
I know we're not dating, but I think you should actually have show more deference and respect
00:40:45.060
to a stranger when you're going into their house versus like a guy you're dating.
00:41:00.760
So you're saying if you go over to somebody's house and they have like a no shoes in door policy,
00:41:09.980
We don't know you, so we don't trust your judgment.
00:41:13.500
If you go into somebody's house, you don't trust your judgment.
00:41:20.300
You ask questions because you're trying to understand somebody's thought process.
00:41:24.040
Wait, you've never been to a house and somebody asked you to like take their shoes off?
00:41:33.200
I ask why because I would like to understand because I thought I'm walking into an office,
00:41:49.580
If at least tell to me in the beginning, hey, I have certain rule and I would like you
00:42:01.140
Isn't it your instinct normally to see if you have to take your shoes off before you walk
00:42:04.340
into somebody's house or to somebody's property?
00:42:07.320
But even if it's not and he says, can you take your shoes off?
00:42:13.880
However, you didn't say that we were going to be taking our shoes off.
00:42:17.840
I have heels in my bag right now because I thought like we can't wear heels because like
00:42:28.420
You've just come inside and it's like pouring rain outside.
00:42:33.240
You're obviously going to have like water and stuff on the bottom of your shoes.
00:42:38.560
How is it in any way not reasonable to just ask to take.
00:42:42.980
How is it not reasonable to just ask somebody to take their shoes off?
00:42:47.740
But how is it reasonable to get upset when someone says why?
00:42:51.340
Maybe her feet was funky and she wanted to know if she really had to do it or she could
00:42:57.820
If you have funky feet, then you should try his products for that.
00:43:12.140
Part of being a good leader is answering some questions you might or explaining.
00:43:17.560
You have no emotional intelligence to explain yourself.
00:43:21.100
This is why astrology is bullshit because she has a totally wrong read on my horoscope.
00:43:28.520
But I mean, look, it's a little different, but I'm trying to like approach it.
00:43:34.960
We've already, you've been on the show fucking five times.
00:43:37.940
You can't be interrupting when other people are talking.
00:43:41.180
So I know in a relationship, there's going to be certain dynamics, right?
00:43:44.520
But like, I think if you're going over to somebody's place, we're not even talking about
00:43:51.140
So it's like, if you're going into somebody's place, it's their rules.
00:43:55.840
Like, I don't care how fucking stupid you think it is.
00:43:58.500
If they're like, here, you got to wear this fucking in and out hat.
00:44:05.080
If I'm like, if you want to come into this fucking studio, you got to wear this.
00:44:09.020
And if like, you don't want to do it, there's the fucking door.
00:44:13.240
I can have whatever dumb ass fucking rule I want.
00:44:17.200
If it's your crib, you can have any, hey, no smoking in here.
00:44:21.140
Now, wouldn't you be upset if somebody came to your house, was about to light up a cigarette
00:44:41.220
Because not everyone smokes, but everyone wears shoes.
00:44:43.860
So like, if you say no, I would understand why.
00:44:49.920
So like, it doesn't really matter if everybody does.
00:44:52.040
And if he told you to wear that In-N-Out hat, would you not ask why?
00:44:56.540
But it is different though, wearing an In-N-Out hat.
00:45:03.660
Like there's some sort of a point that you made.
00:45:09.740
Taking your shoes off when you go into somebody's house is a really sort of basic rule.
00:45:21.000
Don't be laughing at him while he's trying to explain this.
00:45:27.040
But this show is going to be very frustrating for everybody.
00:45:30.600
If we're over-talking each other, interrupting each other, show some courtesy, let people finish.
00:45:38.340
We are going to be here for eight hours together.
00:45:41.880
I mean, just taking your shoes off, that's a basic universal thing.
00:45:45.160
In places like Japan, for example, you can't go into somebody's house without taking your shoes off.
00:45:53.140
I don't see how it's not reasonable in any way.
00:45:55.320
But to the point that he's making, it's more of a submission thing.
00:45:58.160
He's questioning whether you're a submissive person or not.
00:46:00.220
I am submissive and I like to accept anything and anyone when I explain.
00:46:09.180
I mean, you're going to tell me, hey, over here people jump five feet.
00:46:16.140
I mean, but you have the rule, like, you have the rule in your own household.
00:46:21.300
Yeah, so it's not like, you probably have justifications of your own for why you want people to take their shoes off in your home.
00:46:29.980
So it's kind of like, you already know the reasons.
00:46:33.820
Whatever the reasons you have are probably pretty similar to the reasons we have.
00:46:37.460
We don't want people like, we have probably additional reasons too.
00:46:40.720
We don't want people like dragging in, like dirt from the outside.
00:46:53.640
But you sent to me a shopping list of instructions.
00:47:05.120
Although to be charitable to you, this, our arrangement, like getting you on the show was kind of last minute.
00:47:21.820
But just because of like everything that we send you pre-show, that isn't some sort of like gotcha or like, oh, there might, there, just because whatever you send via message doesn't prevent me from having additional rules that were not previously disclosed to you that I would otherwise request you to abide by.
00:47:44.760
Like before somebody comes over to your house, do you always like tell them, by the way, before
00:47:49.900
you come over, you're going to have to take your shoes off?
00:47:56.320
You, you tell them like every single person who's ever been to your house, you tell them
00:48:01.000
like, yeah, by the way, before you, you can't smoke in my house.
00:48:04.140
Like you, you can't, you're going to have to take your shoes off.
00:48:06.360
If they ask to me, if there is anything, you know, if, if they ask, oh, did you ask me if
00:48:18.820
I sent you some pre-show information, but do you also remember when Damien here spent 10
00:48:26.000
So we're not going to disclose every single little thing, like in that thing, we're going
00:48:32.840
And then some of the more, like the things that we can just tell you once you're in
00:48:36.100
studio, we're going to save that for when you're in studio.
00:48:46.600
You think I'm not submissive, but I think I am.
00:48:50.260
I don't think that having shoes on was the problem.
00:48:52.200
I don't think that question was the problem at all.
00:49:00.940
And so your husband, who was, was he, was he the leader in the household?
00:49:13.820
And so he didn't, he wasn't the person to like, you guys were having conflict about
00:49:23.620
You wanted to stay here for your son's water polo career.
00:49:34.240
Wait, when you say the plan, like, did he want you?
00:49:37.840
The plan was when my son water polo career will end and start college and I will follow
00:49:49.360
We'll go to Tennessee back and forth to California and Tennessee.
00:49:54.840
But I mean, didn't he originally want you to go to Tennessee with him?
00:50:02.760
But you were like, no, I'm going to prioritize the water polo thing for my son.
00:50:09.200
Even though your husband is saying, no, maybe he can do water polo in Tennessee.
00:50:17.460
Because women say they're submissive and then they'll argue, argue, argue, argue.
00:50:21.280
And then the guy will finally be like, fuck it, whatever.
00:50:25.280
If the if he was like, I want you to come and you like had like days upon days upon days
00:50:37.780
If your husband was like, hey, we're going to Tennessee.
00:50:46.120
The house in Manhattan Beach was on both of us names, so I don't think there was anything
00:50:55.200
I mean, I'm not sure what that has to do with the whole.
00:50:59.940
I mean, do you think it could be the case like he wanted you to go to Tennessee with him?
00:51:08.560
But I mean, I guess what I'm what I'm confused about is that it sounded like he wanted you
00:51:24.520
But because he moved to Tennessee alone and you wanted to stay in California or I don't
00:51:38.560
He says, I want you to come to California, Tennessee.
00:51:50.120
The detail and the mutual agreement was we buy a house in Tennessee and slowly, slowly
00:51:59.020
In the process, he meets somebody there and I say, OK, good luck.
00:52:15.140
I mean, the way look, I don't know all the details with anything.
00:52:18.460
There's always a lot of information that you can't always convey.
00:52:22.380
But the way you originally explained it, like the first thing when I asked about the nature
00:52:26.980
of the divorce is you said something along the lines of my husband wanted to move to
00:52:37.220
I mean, I'm curious why offer up this detail that now you're saying doesn't matter, but
00:52:43.700
at least the way you originally explained it seems like that was a major cause for like
00:52:54.700
I guess at the end you came to a mutual understanding.
00:52:57.940
But like if you're just telling him, no, no, no, I want to stay here.
00:53:01.500
And you're not kind of going with his will of like, I want to move us to Tennessee.
00:53:10.260
Mutual agreement and things just didn't develop the way we both planned.
00:53:19.000
He wanted to go back to his roots, to the mountains.
00:53:28.180
The plan was initially to move there, but things happen along the way.
00:53:33.360
So I guess my question is, what was the first thing he wanted?
00:53:37.480
Did he want all three of like you, your son, him, well, his son also to move to Tennessee?
00:53:46.180
So just to be clear, he's married to, I guess at that point, the love of his life.
00:54:00.400
We agree on a process, but it was the timing, the real estate to buy the house with the wrench
00:54:13.280
You go ahead and I do the back and forth until we figure out with Polly Water Polo in college.
00:54:23.140
Along the way, he meets somebody and he decides that's what he wants.
00:54:29.780
So just to be clear, he wanted to move, but he was fine with you guys from the very beginning.
00:54:38.840
From the very beginning, he was like, you guys stay here.
00:54:53.000
My longest relationship was like two and a half years.
00:54:56.800
You said, sorry, six and a half months you've been single or sorry?
00:55:00.660
And then two and a half years for your longest relationship?
00:55:06.740
The time period you've been single for six months, the two and a half year relationship,
00:55:14.520
Uh, who broke up with who in the two and a half year relationship?
00:55:22.260
The six month relationship, or sorry, six months ago, what was the period of time you
00:55:27.600
Um, probably for like seven months, eight months, something like that.
00:55:40.620
It's been like four weeks now, and my last partner, we were together for almost three
00:55:50.480
The most recent relationship that ended about a month ago was a three-year relationship?
00:55:55.180
Um, well, I've had another three-year relationship.
00:56:08.000
Uh, why did you break up with the most recent guy?
00:56:16.420
I'm not going to get too far into the details, but, um, yeah, just a difference in like, well,
00:56:22.880
we were living together, so I like to live a certain way.
00:56:43.760
Um, really his attitude, like, the way he'd act, so.
00:56:49.840
Um, just, like, short temper, a little, like, overly, like, um, ego, egotistical type.
00:57:12.960
You've been, uh, any prospects or any dating in this past three, four years?
00:57:17.820
So, you've been single for, like, four years then, about?
00:57:21.780
Is it the two-year relationship, the one that ended four years ago?
00:57:38.760
And, uh, have you been on any dates or seen any guy for any period of time in the past four years?
00:57:59.840
Uh, longest was a year and a half and dating to marry.
00:58:04.280
So, we're going to get into some of the, uh, pre-show notes here.
00:58:06.660
But first, we have a couple of super chats we have to get to.
00:58:09.160
Damien, have you been keeping an eye on the audio?
00:58:12.620
But, uh, Pelagic, this is called a straw man argument.
00:58:15.460
She's totally deflecting, using logical fallacy to dodge and gaslight, uh, manipulation.
00:58:33.380
Like, trigger word, trigger word, trigger word.
00:58:40.620
Asking someone to take their shoes off at the entrance is the same as saying, this is
00:58:47.860
All of y'all's submission is conditional and a headache.
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Uh, if any of the panelists wish to respond to this, they can.
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I feel like the boundaries with the house is correct.
00:59:01.120
But, like, you comparing house rules to being in a relationship and being a leader, a guy
00:59:15.180
I might act with some strangers differently than my partner.
00:59:23.000
And you're with, uh, you're on a, you're with a guy that you, uh, I don't know, first
00:59:31.120
Well, the way that you treat somebody out in public isn't necessarily going to be an
00:59:39.620
However, despite this, if he treats that waitress like a piece of shit and is fucking
00:59:45.340
rude to her, you don't think somewhere in your head, it doesn't even cross your mind,
00:59:51.980
is he going to treat me like this in some way or one day?
00:59:55.680
That never, you wouldn't be like, well, maybe it's okay.
01:00:04.760
Like us here, we don't know you guys that much.
01:00:10.440
We're going to question you a little bit more versus our partners or something like that.
01:00:17.640
Trust their judgment, know that they have our best interests at heart.
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Not saying you guys don't, but it's just, it's, it is a different situation.
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Not saying that anything can't be reflected from that, but it's a different situation.
01:00:32.200
Like it's, I would actually agree if I was like, Hey, wear that stupid in and out hat.
01:00:40.040
But it's occurs to me that asking somebody to remove their shoes at the front door is a,
01:00:58.780
And even if it wasn't, she admitted to practicing it herself.
01:01:04.560
So she would already be aware of the various justifications as to why somebody would want
01:01:13.820
You don't want dirty shoes on carpet, whatever it is.
01:01:16.300
Maybe it's, uh, uh, when it comes to germs or bring whatever it is, whatever it is.
01:01:21.260
So, so as a woman, do you think women are always supposed to submit to every man that they meet?
01:01:25.860
No, no, no, no, but, but, but what he's saying though, is that that's a reflection of a certain
01:01:31.480
And what it is, is it's a rejection of authority because in that particular instance, that's
01:01:35.920
something that doesn't really require a question.
01:01:38.740
So he's saying that she is actually quite disagreeable rather than submissive.
01:01:42.500
And he's trying to, he's trying to dig deeper to see how it reflects in the relationship.
01:01:56.220
It actually is, it's not, it's not really a scale actually, because what it means is that
01:02:00.840
you say yes to your man in what, in what he wants.
01:02:03.540
Listen, listen, listen, listen, I understand the distinction.
01:02:12.320
I understand the distinction between relationship and what happened here.
01:02:15.620
And we've made the distinction about 20 times now when we say that what happened was a reflection
01:02:19.560
of something that might happen in a relationship.
01:02:21.960
Now we're talking about being in a relationship.
01:02:26.420
So in a relationship though, it's quite, it's quite distinct when you're talking about being
01:02:30.780
submissive, because if you get to choose when you're submissive or not, that just means
01:02:37.580
So I think that this issue is more of a manners etiquette thing than like showing if they're
01:02:49.160
And like how you were brought up and being, I don't know, I'm Persian.
01:02:55.980
So like we're taught from a young age to be really like kind.
01:03:01.720
And when you go to somebody's house, it's like whatever they say goes.
01:03:06.940
And then usually the host is always like offering things to the guest and everything.
01:03:13.400
So it's a, it's more maybe a cultural thing and also etiquette rather than a measure of submission
01:03:21.760
I would agree with you, but I think you can make certain inferences about somebody's behavior.
01:03:30.020
And this all stems from, she was saying like, oh, men are, are no longer masculine.
01:03:34.720
Well, I don't disagree with that, but I think women are no longer feminine.
01:03:42.260
You guys want traditional men, but you don't want to be submissive.
01:03:46.340
You want a dominant man, you want a leader, but you don't want to submit.
01:03:52.840
This isn't a like relationship dynamic, but like, I'm going to make an inference.
01:03:56.960
Like, for example, if with that, uh, if, if I see a girl being really combative and disagreeable,
01:04:05.740
like if I'm on a first date with her and she's being disagreeable to the waiter,
01:04:09.780
or she's kind of like questioning something, not with me, but somebody else in a way that
01:04:16.120
I'm like, uh, like, or if you go to somebody's house and she questions why she has to take
01:04:21.140
If like, if she, that's actually a really good example.
01:04:23.740
If I was on a date with a girl and I was going over to my buddy's house with, if I was on a
01:04:29.040
date with a girl and I was going over to my buddy's house and my buddy had a rule, like,
01:04:33.580
Hey, you got to take your shoes off at the front door.
01:04:41.540
That's not directed at me, but that's like red flag for the relationship.
01:04:46.600
So it's like a personality, like measure, like measuring what their personality is going
01:04:54.200
If you were to take them to someone's house and they would embarrass you by, you know,
01:04:57.460
starting this thing about taking the shoes off.
01:05:02.140
Like if it was like a work meeting or something and you're going over to the CEO's,
01:05:05.620
house for dinner, he invited you for like, Oh, you're about to get a raise, you're about
01:05:11.280
And then you bring your girlfriend and the, the, the, the nice wife is like, Oh, excuse
01:05:16.380
Can we just have you take your shoes off at the front?
01:05:23.300
If she's with her man, then she should probably turn to her guy and be like, why do you think
01:05:30.440
I mean, I don't think, I don't think it's reasonable.
01:05:34.140
So I didn't have a problem taking my shoes off since I got here.
01:05:37.020
But I'm just saying like, there's other ways you go about it that I wouldn't say is non-submissive.
01:05:44.740
I feel like maybe you're right about how it comes on like a, you said it comes on a scale
01:05:50.080
and you said it doesn't, but you said something about, Oh, I'm sorry.
01:05:55.520
But when you're talking about like personality traits, like agreeableness, being more disagreeable,
01:06:02.820
You seem like a kind of like a disagreeable person, but men tend to be a little bit more
01:06:09.120
I actually work with people and all my people love me and I have a great reputation.
01:06:22.040
I think both of you trying to walk or like really high volume on my stilettos, letting
01:06:30.920
When I say that, um, you seem like a disagreeable, I'm also a very disagreeable person.
01:06:34.580
You might've been able to tell Brian's also a very disagreeable person.
01:06:39.900
But I'm just saying, you know, it's like we turned the whole subject.
01:06:44.480
Like we turned the whole subject about me taking down my stilettos at the door.
01:06:51.100
But I do think that in terms of relationships, it is, it is a bit black and white when it
01:06:55.520
It's not reflecting on who I am or my personality or my, uh, dating, uh, habits or behavior.
01:07:08.800
I don't, but we have to go off on what we've seen.
01:07:12.880
But if you judge me on one thing that's because of my shoes, me asking why, it's okay.
01:07:19.000
To, to your, to that though, first impressions are super important.
01:07:23.200
I bet every single girl here at this table has been on the first date with a dude and
01:07:27.620
the dude, you know, within 10 seconds, don't like this dude.
01:07:38.580
He might not even open his mouth and you've already decided never going to, never going
01:07:42.960
to date this guy, never going to sleep with him.
01:07:46.300
So this idea that, I mean, that, that like women operate the same way, you guys are going
01:07:54.000
If he's not on point in the first five minutes of the date, it's over.
01:08:00.380
Cause I think I'd give them about the whole date.
01:08:06.400
So you're telling me, you're, you're telling me that you haven't made up your mind within
01:08:11.580
the first 10 seconds as to like, have you had a one night stand or hooked up with a guy?
01:08:26.400
But I didn't though, because maybe I'm thinking about it for a while.
01:08:30.020
I actually, I went on the whole date and I'm like, ah, he did a couple of weird things.
01:08:35.380
But then I go home and I'm thinking about, I'm like, ah, it wasn't that bad.
01:08:40.540
He only said he wouldn't take his shoes off at the door.
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You probably, you probably knew within the first like 10 minutes in that particular situation.
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I think women tend to get a really good feeling.
01:09:00.640
Women tend to have a really good gauge on whether they like the guy pretty much straight
01:09:10.300
Um, Jake, I need to get up really quick to check the audio.
01:09:17.980
That's a hypothetical scenario that you guys can engage with.
01:09:20.980
If you were at a job, no sidebar in conversations, guys.
01:09:24.380
If you were at a job interview, but the job interview was for the man of your dreams.
01:09:28.580
Imagine everything you could ever possibly want in a man.
01:09:32.260
But what you've got to do is you've got to walk in to the interview and you've got to
01:09:37.940
How are you going to show him that you're special and different?
01:09:45.180
I would just be myself because if it's meant to be, it'll work out.
01:09:52.460
I would like to say that I'm like outgoing and funny.
01:09:57.060
You know, there's, there's a lot of things that go into me, but I think when you're around
01:10:01.740
And if you're not into that, that, that is what it is.
01:10:03.760
Then you're obviously not my dream man because my dream man would accept me for who I am
01:10:10.280
Um, if it was for my dream man, I will listen to what he have to say to me because when
01:10:17.060
you listen, they really tell you who they really are.
01:10:21.040
So I will bring some questions and see, you know, what and how we answer.
01:10:27.060
So you're going to flip the script and interview him?
01:10:34.840
You said you're going to bring questions for him.
01:10:43.160
No, you already know he's the man of your dreams.
01:10:47.800
So you already know he's the man of your dreams.
01:10:51.820
So I'm just going to be me and let him lead the way.
01:10:55.620
What if he sits there and he's got his feet up on the table and he's doing this like
01:11:02.860
In like a really sort of like mysterious, handsome sort of way.
01:11:05.240
So I'm just going to break a joke to break the silence.
01:11:26.720
But if he says, if he, if his question to you is tell me about yourself, like I want to
01:11:32.680
know, I want to know what makes you different and what makes you special and what you could
01:11:36.780
If he's the man of my dreams, I'm not going to have to sell myself.
01:11:42.700
He's going to love it or he's going to hate it.
01:11:43.860
You don't think that you would have to sell yourself to the man of your dreams.
01:11:54.200
I agree with that because if he's the man of my dreams and I know what I want, well,
01:11:59.320
Everything you could possibly think of, he's got it.
01:12:02.400
So I would ask him what he's looking for in a woman and I would also try to be that
01:12:07.560
for him and, you know, of course, come with all my natural qualities.
01:12:13.140
And, yeah, over time, I mean, over time, a room for a few minutes is not going to let
01:12:21.200
We would spend time together to reveal that in time.
01:12:34.120
Whatever that self is, whatever that self is, what is it?
01:12:47.580
I don't know if my dream man would be sitting, interviewing, waiting.
01:12:55.360
So with a hypothetical, it's an imaginary scenario.
01:13:01.640
And then if it grows into something more than that, that's cool, because I feel like my
01:13:05.760
dream guy could just be my friend, too, because I'm cool with just having a cool guy friend.
01:13:10.100
You know, being best friends is the most important thing.
01:13:12.720
The relationship and all that could come after, or whatever you guys decide to do.
01:13:16.400
So I would just be like, let's be friends first.
01:13:21.320
Yeah, I would be like, I would definitely be myself and then like, just start off as friends.
01:13:28.020
You know, because maybe he is not my dream man.
01:13:35.920
Well, I mean, I would just try to, you know, be friends with him and see where it goes.
01:13:51.180
Okay, so if I would meet the man of my dream, first of all, I would look at his eyes and then
01:14:01.300
I'm sure I would be very shy because when you meet the man who you really like, it's
01:14:08.320
I would smile, I would shy, I would be red and I just like a little bit flirted, but it's
01:14:12.880
coming naturally and we have just little topic and I'm very strong woman, but when I meet
01:14:18.720
the right man, I become very like a kitten and we'll see what will happen after.
01:14:29.940
When you meet the right man with the right energy, it's like, it's maybe it's only with
01:14:35.740
me working like that, but I feel like I want to be weak and I want to be behind this man
01:14:44.480
When I start to imagine this beautiful man, and actually, yes, I want he to be stronger
01:14:52.800
than me and that he take the situation in his hands.
01:15:00.580
And a little by little, he will find out me and then yes.
01:15:05.200
Okay, now we're going to go for one more round.
01:15:08.780
Now, so the idea of the hypothetical is to test your answers and to see what you guys
01:15:18.580
This guy's tall, handsome, he's successful, he's busy, he's on his grind and everything.
01:15:29.740
He wants someone to confide in and be there for him.
01:15:34.040
Like, probably as a busy man, you have a lot of conflicts throughout your day.
01:15:38.920
So somewhere that he can come home and feel comfortable and feel like, you know, we can
01:15:45.460
Like, we can have a conversation and not get all up in our feelings and feel stressed
01:15:51.000
out by, I don't know, just someone that's there for them.
01:15:53.320
Because it's hard nowadays to have someone who genuinely cares and you feel like you
01:16:00.240
So just to be that for somebody else, I bet that's what they want.
01:16:05.580
From my experience and my question and talk with men of all levels, I think men, first
01:16:14.920
thing they like is loyalty and somebody that can listen and understand, somebody that they
01:16:22.520
can come to and talk on any subject and they find it smart and somebody that can give them
01:16:36.700
This is a great partner when you can be a little bit of everything together.
01:16:53.280
Obviously, he's doing something that's important.
01:16:55.540
Most people don't have someone they can confide in, speak to.
01:17:16.360
That sounds like a major problem that needs to be fixed.
01:17:27.000
Why do you have to have moisture coming from your face to be normal?
01:17:31.960
There's obviously built up tension inside of you.
01:17:34.320
If you feel like you have to cry about it, there's some sort of overwhelming feeling inside
01:17:38.900
of your body and if you're not tapping into those feelings that make you feel like you're
01:17:45.080
You need to express that and get that out before you put it out in different ways.
01:17:49.080
Because if you're not crying or feeling some sort of sadness when you're overwhelmed or
01:17:53.460
sad, then you're definitely putting it out in a different way.
01:17:58.180
Oh, you want to push someone away or act a certain type of way?
01:18:02.380
Like, there's something behind not feeling able to cry.
01:18:06.600
Men who don't cry is not available emotionally.
01:18:10.040
What if they love going to the gym and just punching the shit out of the boxing bag?
01:18:14.060
And that's the way that they do it and they never cry.
01:18:18.600
That's not just focusing on the actual feeling.
01:18:20.840
Tell me how one is a better emotional release than the other.
01:18:24.540
When you go to the gym, you elevate your endorphine.
01:18:28.680
When you are emotional, you lower all your guards and your walls and you're actually submissive
01:18:37.780
Okay, so you want the man to be submissive again.
01:18:46.280
Because I would definitely claim that going to the gym and hitting the boxing bag for
01:18:52.400
But it's the same thing because what you essentially said is that this is like an energy build up.
01:18:55.600
You've got things inside you and you need a release, right?
01:18:57.840
So if you need to release it and then my way of doing that is going to the gym and hitting
01:19:01.500
the bag for an hour and then your way of doing it is to cry.
01:19:19.000
You don't just get angry and be angry for no reason.
01:19:21.880
So you think that somebody can't cut you off in traffic and you're not actually angry yourself.
01:19:27.400
If someone cuts you off in traffic, you're angry and you're going to go punch a punching
01:19:31.480
Come on, there's something you need to work on.
01:19:32.940
So what I said was, if somebody cuts you off in traffic and you get angry about it, does
01:19:41.220
I feel like crying is something deeper than just anger.
01:19:46.240
Anger probably follows up on it because it's like something else.
01:19:51.080
And also, maybe you're so upset in traffic because it triggered you in some way.
01:19:55.020
Maybe something else happened a long time ago and when that guy cut you off, you were
01:20:02.980
And you're like, wait, why does this piss me off so bad?
01:20:06.020
Or maybe you're just angry because you get cut off and you wanted to say something?
01:20:09.020
So people were saying that men are feminine these days.
01:20:15.700
And I think a man crying is very feminine and make them not masculine.
01:20:27.200
It's pretty much the same with all women, but they'll lie to you and say that, oh, it's
01:20:31.220
I really like it when my man is weeping in my shoulder, which is just a total...
01:20:35.640
I'm not saying that, but I'm not saying cry about everything in the world that ever made
01:20:39.720
you mad, but I'm saying if you really feel that much emotion to let it out and cry,
01:20:47.420
That should not be something that you're avoiding doing.
01:20:49.620
Yeah, but do you understand why, based on what you guys all just said, which is that
01:20:53.680
it's very unattractive for a man to cry, do you understand why there are certain cultural
01:20:57.120
parameters that are put up and cultural walls that are put up for men, which means that
01:21:01.860
they have to find other ways to get around these emotional states?
01:21:04.720
Because the reason why you're actually not very attracted to a man who cries is because
01:21:08.520
every fiber of your being is designed to be attracted to a man who can be strong in
01:21:14.540
So if he's crying, instantly you're going to think to yourself, gosh, what if something
01:21:19.160
goes wrong financially, or what if there's an intruder, or what's he going to do?
01:21:24.720
So I mean, if he has a family member who's just died and he's just heard the news and
01:21:30.080
there's something crazy has just happened, you can understand that release of emotion
01:21:35.780
However, if he's just like crying all the time, then that's, or crying over things that
01:21:41.920
he can just sort of deal with, then that's another thing.
01:21:44.680
But also guys don't like, with me, for example, I just don't ever feel the need to do that.
01:21:50.380
Like if I've got a problem and it's like really something that's eating away at me, for the
01:21:54.540
most part, I'm going to give one of my brothers a call.
01:21:56.440
I'm going to give one of my friends a call and we're going to have a really logical conversation
01:22:01.200
However, if you guys are really emotional about something and you come to me about it, what do you
01:22:05.860
You want me to listen and not give you a solution?
01:22:07.940
You want me to just make sure that you feel heard, right?
01:22:13.840
Because men are, their first instinct is to, okay, so how can I fix this problem?
01:22:19.280
Whereas when you talk to a woman, they're like, okay, I'm going to let you vent, I'm
01:22:23.320
I'm not saying that a man should just cry every time there's an issue and they're so overwhelmed.
01:22:28.700
I'm saying if there is, okay, wait, hold on, hold on.
01:22:34.260
A man shouldn't cry, you know, every single time there's a problem, but if you can fix
01:22:40.980
But if there's something so deep, someone died and you're not crying about it, what aren't
01:22:48.120
Because there's nothing you can do to fix that.
01:22:50.400
But earlier in the conversation, you were saying it's like a, it's like a buildup of emotions
01:22:54.340
and there might be something that you think of when you were, from when you were 12 that
01:22:57.720
made you really sad that when the person cut you off in traffic, you just want to cry.
01:23:00.440
That was sort of your logic that we all have these build, these buildups of anxiety and
01:23:05.840
I mean, we're all creatures who sort of carry all different kinds of life experiences.
01:23:13.140
We all have to sort of be cool with that at some point.
01:23:16.580
And, you know, we all have hopes of heaven and fears of hell.
01:23:21.040
However, with guys, generally, we tend to just deal with things completely different to you.
01:23:28.800
They'll sit there and they'll be like, all right, it's cry time.
01:23:30.980
And I'm going to sit here for an hour and I'm just going to cry.
01:23:33.480
And they can do shit, like clean the dishes or they can go like walk around their house
01:23:38.580
Whereas if a guy does cry, generally, that's something like.
01:23:44.160
And you normally want to be completely alone or maybe in.
01:23:51.360
Or with one of your very, very close friends who you can really trust, like a serious confidant.
01:23:58.760
Why do you feel comfortable crying in front of some men that literally they'd be like,
01:24:08.240
No, but in terms of men crying in front of each other, I think that that's a myth.
01:24:12.820
That's something that females think that guys do.
01:24:15.200
But I've had different men who have confided in me in like really, really serious times
01:24:19.500
when they're going through something immense and then they've cried in front of me.
01:24:23.280
And normally it's like, I'm not going to sort of, you know.
01:24:28.240
But if that happens, then I'm going to sit there with you.
01:24:30.760
I'm probably going to be silent for a little while.
01:24:32.840
And then once that's done, we're going to come to a solutions-based.
01:24:35.940
We're going to have a solutions-based conversation, right?
01:24:39.220
But the key difference is that when women do that to you, if you start trying to give them
01:24:43.060
solutions, they're like, just shut up and just listen to me.
01:24:46.060
Because did you give the moment of silence like you did for your homeboy?
01:24:49.380
With the women, you get pretty much all silence.
01:24:54.060
Well, I'm just saying like to be with a man who doesn't cry at all is not healthy.
01:25:04.040
But you have to understand that there are a lot of guys like that though who would never
01:25:06.940
cry, even if something, the worst thing you can ever imagine happened.
01:25:09.580
I think there is a difference between like crying and shedding tears because crying to
01:25:18.380
And girls on the phone with their friends crying, like that's crying.
01:25:22.240
If you like take a moment and like shed some tears, you can like by all means do that and
01:25:27.820
not lose any respect for me because I'll understand the situation.
01:25:31.680
And if I am your piece, I will understand why that's going on.
01:25:38.120
Shed a tear and then go punch that punching bag you were talking about.
01:25:42.040
Come on, we're going to get through this, baby.
01:25:43.360
Well, I mean, I don't think that if you would shed a tear, then you would do that next necessarily.
01:25:47.680
But generally speaking, there are so many guys who I know who are the most sort of emotionally
01:25:53.680
intelligent, if we want to use that word, men that I know that would never shed a tear.
01:25:59.320
But if we want to use the word emotional intelligence, then they're completely emotional
01:26:03.880
intelligent because they're completely emotionally intelligent.
01:26:07.240
And the reason why is because whatever comes their way, they can process it in real time
01:26:11.740
and not react to it, not have an emotional reaction to it.
01:26:14.520
And I think that that actually is the highest form of emotional intelligence.
01:26:21.620
Whereas women these days will tend to say, these guys aren't emotionally intelligent.
01:26:27.000
Probably emotionally intelligent would be crying.
01:26:31.520
To be like emotionally, to not be emotionally intelligent.
01:26:34.940
Well, you would agree with me that generally the sentiment these days in society is that men
01:26:40.120
And women are the emotionally intelligent ones.
01:26:41.960
And the reason why is because men don't show emotion, right?
01:26:45.920
If they think that an outward reflection or an outward demonstration of emotion is showing
01:26:52.280
I think today the problem is every guy shows all their emotions.
01:26:56.180
And whether they do it in an aggressive or a weird way, they're still showing immense amounts of emotion.
01:27:04.600
So to say like, oh, I want a guy who, you know, is emotionally intelligent would be someone who knows
01:27:14.200
And I think that this would be a characteristic of everybody's dream man in here.
01:27:17.940
The one who you were meant to sell yourself to before.
01:27:21.240
I think that you guys would want a man who's completely stoic, doesn't have emotional reactions,
01:27:27.960
doesn't have emotional reactions to you and to your outburst, is able to leave the house, go to the gym,
01:27:33.800
come back and have a rational conversation, and is able to be the sort of sturdy rock face
01:27:45.740
So this is what women will say, is that they want to have a man who they can connect with emotionally like that.
01:27:55.320
What they want is a man who's going to leave that situation, if it's getting emotional and heated,
01:27:59.820
and then come back later and be like, all right, we're going to have a conversation about this now.
01:28:05.300
And I don't think crying automatically equals weakness.
01:28:08.900
I feel like there's nothing wrong with setting a tear.
01:28:12.720
Something can hurt you, and you still find a solution to that.
01:28:16.740
I don't personally view that as weakness, or I want my man to be tough all the time.
01:28:22.880
How would you feel, though, if your man cried in public, and your friends were there?
01:28:28.920
I don't cry in public, so you shouldn't cry in public.
01:28:31.580
And sort of furthering on from that last point, that generally, women want a man who is, to the outside world,
01:28:38.380
he's very stoic, and he's aggressive and dominant, and forges his own path in life.
01:28:44.900
But then, on like a cold Sunday morning, you want to see behind the veil, maybe just a little bit.
01:28:50.880
I think that generally speaking, women tend to want that.
01:28:54.060
Just in moments when he's with you, then you maybe see behind the veil a little bit.
01:29:05.180
It's, again, have to do with how available he is emotionally and mentally.
01:29:09.700
It's funny, because there's been a lot of studies done on what women actually are aroused by.
01:29:16.760
And one of the books that I find really interesting is called A Billion Wicked Thoughts, and it's by a bunch of Google engineers.
01:29:22.220
And what they do is they got a billion Google searches from women to see what women's pornographic fantasies were.
01:29:38.380
So, some of the most watched sort of adult content for women was billionaires, vampires.
01:29:49.580
It's going to make sense in a second, I guarantee you.
01:29:58.520
It was completely anonymous, because it was billions of different Google searches.
01:30:07.480
So, look, what are the most popular movies and TV shows that we've seen women?
01:30:12.000
Fucking, since you said vampires, it would be like Twilight.
01:30:17.820
Does that now shock you that vampires was a part of it?
01:30:36.200
What's the most popular, what's the most popular book?
01:30:39.520
Especially in recent times that women have bought.
01:30:49.280
He's a beast to the outside world, but then she gets to tame him.
01:30:57.360
She literally gets tied up and beat, and he's like, oh yeah.
01:31:01.900
Well, I mean, to her, he's like a, he warms to her in the end, right?
01:31:08.240
There's a movie called 365, I think, and it's about an Italian mob boss who kidnaps this
01:31:13.620
woman for a whole year, and then after the year, they eventually fall in love.
01:31:28.000
He's a dangerous mob boss that falls in love with her and then shows her like a bit of
01:31:33.620
So all this to say that the Beauty and the Beast archetype is something that is deeply,
01:31:38.780
deeply ingrained within women, and even that movie, Beauty and the Beast, was made
01:31:42.900
for that particular reason as well, because women want a beast who they contain.
01:31:47.100
I think also we all, as children, we've been brainwashed that we have to have some type
01:31:52.420
of relationship because we grow up in a mother and a father and a family thinking this is
01:32:06.500
No, I think the stuff they put on TV, they put to you this perfect family, you know,
01:32:16.140
Just to be clear, you think it's brainwashing for there to be a mother and a father?
01:32:19.880
No, it's brainwashing to think that a beast is good.
01:32:27.880
So when I say beast, I'm talking about the archetypal figure of the hyper-masculine guy.
01:32:31.840
The guy who locks you in a cellar in a basement with his talking candles.
01:32:34.760
Look, I'm not the one who was watching it on repeat and like-
01:32:48.200
I mean, what type of movies and books do men read and what shows them what they like?
01:33:02.700
That Beauty and the Beast archetype comes from wanting to feel special.
01:33:06.660
I think everybody wants to have that special part of somebody like-
01:33:12.220
Men don't want their women giving it up to everybody.
01:33:15.840
I don't want you showing that vulnerable side to everybody.
01:33:19.420
I don't think it's about wanting to tame a beast.
01:33:21.480
It's about wanting to feel special that I get a certain part of you that nobody else does.
01:33:27.620
But it's also the representation of the masculine archetype that women desire.
01:33:30.680
And even if they don't say they desire it, all of the scientific research shows that that is what they gravitate towards and that's what arouses them.
01:33:37.220
I want everyone to see me when I'm walking with my men and be like, oh, I ain't going to mess with her.
01:33:42.960
But anyways, we didn't get through the whole job interview thing before.
01:33:46.100
But all that to say with the job interview that it's interesting to see because not one of you guys said during the job interview what you're going to bring to his life and what you can do.
01:34:00.080
But like in the initial one, which was off the cuff.
01:34:03.780
I was going to bring my whole deck so I could do a presentation.
01:34:08.020
But yeah, so it was interesting to see that no one said that.
01:34:15.320
But the initial one, no one said it and that was a raw study.
01:34:19.380
The initial one that I said was that I would bring my authentic self and I think that that within itself brings a lot to the table.
01:34:31.240
When you say how do you, I know you're very confused by it, but when you say how do you sell yourself to somebody, you're meant to say what can I bring to your life?
01:34:37.140
Oh, I got a big butt and I'm very thoughtful and I care.
01:34:59.080
Who said that you're going to ask him questions?
01:35:04.020
You know, you said that you're going to ask him questions, yeah?
01:35:09.420
I thought that might have been a good answer if it was followed to a conclusion, which was not the logical conclusion of what you were saying.
01:35:14.700
But then you said he's just going to sit there like this and I said I'm going to break the silence.
01:35:19.160
But what we were talking about when we said that was that I thought that there was going to be someone who took it to a logical conclusion and was actually asking him about, how can I help you?
01:35:33.740
Well, it's funny because you guys are all taking the piss out of it.
01:35:39.960
But God forbid, God forbid you actually have to serve the man that you're with.
01:35:44.100
I will, but I don't think that my dream man wants me to crawl in the door.
01:35:50.140
And lay on the floor and say, take me, take me.
01:35:56.580
Because now you're a thirsty bitch and I don't like you.
01:36:01.120
See, you guys have just completely failed 100% to grasp anything I was just saying.
01:36:06.500
It's actually quite impressive how quickly the point just flies over your head.
01:36:10.900
But what I'm saying is that instead of doing whatever crawling you were just doing,
01:36:16.860
the idea is that you walk in, I will, thank you.
01:36:21.560
The idea is that you walk in and you say, and you observe the guy, who he is,
01:36:25.900
and you sort of try and ascertain how you could bring value to his life.
01:36:29.420
And then maybe you have a few questions to ask him about what he does,
01:36:34.800
And then you can say whether or not that's something, a duty you'd be willing to fulfill.
01:36:39.500
In marriage, people have duties, even the women.
01:36:44.060
But I don't think that if you're going to be the big, strong man that you're going to be,
01:36:52.120
So you would never ask your dream man, hey, honey, is there anything I can do for you today?
01:37:00.500
But when you came up to me and you, why was you sitting here like this?
01:37:08.640
I need you to do this for me, do this for me, do this for me.
01:37:12.320
If my answer is anything other than yes, then I'm done, right?
01:37:16.840
Yeah, see, the difference is, though, I can have, if I was that guy, right, just say I'm
01:37:21.220
everybody's dream man, and then I have a bunch of women walking into the room, and then I'm
01:37:26.140
going to tell them all, I want you to do this, this, this, this, and this.
01:37:32.320
But if I have them come and sell themselves, and somebody, and someone comes in, asks those
01:37:37.920
questions, and is really observant of myself, then it's going to set her apart, because
01:37:43.820
And actually, men like women who have initiative.
01:37:49.220
All right, we need to get into a couple things.
01:37:56.320
But when you say mansplain, can you define that so we understand it?
01:38:01.020
When men explain stuff that we obviously understood, but we were joking.
01:38:05.320
Joking about the explanation, or I'm just confused?
01:38:10.300
Well, he was mansplaining a question he already asked that we already answered.
01:38:14.880
No, well, if mansplaining is based on the fact that you already understood, then you are
01:38:21.960
I kind of think mansplain is a bit of a sexist term.
01:38:26.320
You know, it's kind of, you know, it's kind of, well, I feel like women would be very upset
01:38:36.840
And you're, I dismiss whatever you're trying to tell me.
01:38:40.600
I simply dismiss it by saying, oh, well, you're she-laborating.
01:38:49.020
So, I just think, you know, putting man before explain mansplaining.
01:38:57.620
I mean, like for example, let me, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
01:39:11.360
Well, did you want me to explain a black term or what are we explaining?
01:39:14.760
Mind you, this is a term I would never use, but is that a racist term?
01:39:26.520
Because the black people aren't the oppressors.
01:39:32.640
So, yeah, y'all can take that little mansplain, yeah, that little discrimination because y'all
01:39:44.620
We could say whitesplain because they're the oppressors.
01:39:51.860
He was like, here's the difference between a man and a woman speaking.
01:39:54.760
A man is thinking about how the other man is going to think about it.
01:39:59.280
Like, he's thinking about all the men because they all think the same.
01:40:02.060
You can predict a guy the way that they think, but as a woman, they're speaking for only
01:40:06.180
themselves, and in reality, a man is already going to collectively make everything that
01:40:20.860
Versus women make things, there's specificity or individualness?
01:40:27.360
I mean, maybe every once in a while, oh, yeah, like, all women.
01:40:44.960
Bro, that was the actually retarded answer ever.
01:40:48.540
What you'll actually find is that when women and men receive information, men tend to compartmentalize
01:40:54.740
information, whereas women tend to take all of the information, rub it all together like
01:41:02.000
Exactly, that's what I'm saying, is that a woman is thinking about themselves, and a
01:41:09.440
A man thinks logically, whereas women think emotionally.
01:41:12.380
Whatever the word you want to use is, they're thinking of them as a collective, whereas a woman
01:41:18.440
So, I don't, so let's explore these terms a little bit.
01:41:22.180
So, you said there's an oppressor-oppressed dynamic.
01:41:25.040
Is that your position between men and women, that there's an oppressor-oppressed dynamic
01:41:44.280
So, going back to this, before I was so rudely interrupted.
01:41:50.420
I was talking to you, and I was hoping to have a conversation with you.
01:42:12.880
How about if you were trying to explain, for example, the history of redlining to him,
01:42:35.900
I mean, let's assume we did make it up if you just take an analysis of the actual term
01:42:43.500
blacksplaining, which, by the way, I think that's a racist term.
01:42:46.200
I would never, like, dismiss a, if a black person was explaining something to me, I would
01:42:54.600
I think you should also think that's racist because I think that would be deeply offensive
01:42:59.240
I mean, well, no, I'm not a proponent of the term.
01:43:07.160
I mean, you could probably Google this and people have probably used it before.
01:43:15.540
It doesn't matter at all because what he's doing, he's using an analogy, right?
01:43:19.400
And he's using blacksplaining, whether he made it up or not, to see whether or not
01:43:23.600
your logic is consistent and whether you're actually morally consistent with your mansplaining
01:43:29.940
If you think that's, if you think, between sexism and racism.
01:43:33.580
Me, personally, they are both one and the same.
01:43:40.720
Maybe you deserve to be sexualized a little bit because women have been going through it
01:44:07.880
First off, there's a panel of 10 people here total.
01:44:18.040
Look, people are going to have their time to speak.
01:44:20.000
We spent five, 10 minutes talking about your 100 dates.
01:44:32.360
But like, it's not your job as a guest and a panelist to dictate to me.
01:44:39.420
I don't feel like I've been given an adequate amount of time to speak in the past 10 minutes.
01:44:49.940
If I want to talk to her for the next two hours and all of you have to shut the fuck up for the next two hours,
01:44:55.720
I'm not going to do that because I'd love to hear from all of you.
01:45:01.920
In fact, I decide I just want to talk to Jake for the next two hours about fucking Australia.
01:45:14.320
The Australians are the most oppressed out of everyone.
01:45:19.580
So, I'm going to try to involve other people here.
01:45:27.440
Are you dissatisfied with the amount of tension you're currently receiving?
01:45:35.880
It was more to her because you ask the question and she start talking, talking, talking, talking.
01:45:53.160
Whenever you want to speak to you, you got that.
01:45:57.580
He is the man, so he needs control of the situation.
01:46:17.620
But look, if somebody jumps in, I'm going to try my best to try to bring everybody into the conversation.
01:46:23.220
But look, it's the reality of a panel show like this.
01:46:26.000
Some people are a bit more conversationally dominant.
01:46:32.740
I don't think everybody is going to get an equal amount of time here.
01:46:35.940
But I'm going to try my best to try to get everybody in it.
01:46:39.280
And that's why we have the questionnaire, which we're going to get into soon.
01:46:42.560
That will give everybody an opportunity, some other questions.
01:46:46.820
Let's try to wrap up on the conversation that was being had.
01:47:01.880
Because the oppressor and the oppressor and the one is racist.
01:47:12.160
Yeah, they're like, oh, I'm speaking logically.
01:47:18.620
So, do you guys think like, but it's not just a man explaining something.
01:47:30.620
He's just saying it as how every man would think.
01:47:43.240
But so, I guess my qualm with it is, like, you're attaching, so you're making it into
01:48:03.200
If I say you're mansplaining, you're only looking at it from the view of a man.
01:48:21.680
When a mansplains, when a man is mansplaining, he's only talking about what men think.
01:48:32.240
He's not thinking about what a woman would think.
01:48:37.680
Sure, because I'm thinking about how the men in the room aren't thinking from my perspective.
01:48:44.680
I'm thinking about how the women are thinking about how the men are thinking.
01:48:48.200
And you're, this is something like inception woman-splaining here.
01:49:06.280
I'm woman-nagging and I'm also woman-nagging, baby.
01:49:18.660
Yeah, and then when the guys are taking on the approach of a woman, then we can make
01:49:25.560
Trying to explain everything from Rebel, tell us the problem.
01:49:31.140
Thirsty to be the way to be the victim or thirsty to be right?
01:49:47.860
You said that there's the oppression dynamics when it came to the blacksplaining thing.
01:49:56.780
But so in this thing, my position is men are more oppressed than women.
01:50:01.680
So then I'm right to say that mansplaining, you women as the oppressor class, you guys
01:50:18.900
In fact, I'm definitely being sexist when I say that.
01:50:25.460
Like maybe looking for a reason to complain sometimes.
01:50:28.220
But don't you think that the dominant societal narrative at the moment is that there is a
01:50:32.960
patriarchy and that women get paid less and that women have been historically oppressed
01:50:36.560
and they haven't had the right to vote and all of these sort of things.
01:50:39.360
Don't you think they're kind of thirsty for oppression?
01:50:43.320
How are we thirsty for something we have already?
01:50:45.300
But we would argue that men are actually more oppressed in society and we can actually
01:50:51.700
This doesn't sound very emotionally intelligent.
01:51:09.060
Because then it turned into blacksplaining and we've been talking about mansplaining for
01:51:12.780
So why don't you get back to your claim that you just made?
01:51:14.420
You said that you feel as though I'm not very emotionally intelligent.
01:51:24.740
I was, but then I was rudely interrupted by this comment over here.
01:51:39.180
I don't know what we were talking about at this point.
01:51:41.000
So we were saying, I was saying that I think that we can actually back up if we wanted
01:51:44.700
to have the conversation that there are actually more factors of oppression for men in society
01:51:50.380
However, the dominant societal narrative is of female oppression.
01:51:55.340
So if that's the case, doesn't it seem like women are the ones who are trying to act like
01:52:19.040
I think women in general are more impressive than men.
01:52:23.140
I think the fact that we can't go out for a walk-in night.
01:52:28.920
What woman is going to come and jump on you, Brian?
01:52:35.840
We're not attacking you guys like that on the street.
01:52:37.780
But who do you think gets murdered more, men or women?
01:52:42.560
We're just talking about the rates of who gets killed more.
01:52:46.620
Yeah, men are by far and away the victims of violence.
01:52:52.300
Do you think that if you said something about the incidence of violence or murder
01:52:57.800
when it comes to black people, if I were to just dismiss this claim, because I was like,
01:53:03.880
If I just were to try to dismiss your claim, like, do you think that's fair?
01:53:07.000
Or should we, like, actually focus, like, hmm, these are actual victims.
01:53:10.360
Like, let's actually have a conversation about that.
01:53:12.800
Well, just because someone is getting murdered and killed, that doesn't mean that they're
01:53:19.400
Like, just because men have hardships, they have to go to war and stuff like that, that
01:53:26.140
Wait, so being forced to die in a war that you don't want to fight, that's not oppression?
01:53:50.000
So you're oppressed in America, but the last...
01:53:51.680
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
01:53:54.440
I want everybody to be quiet while me and her have this exchange.
01:53:57.960
Okay, so you're saying, you asked when was the last draft, right?
01:54:01.460
Okay, I meant here, not in a different country.
01:54:05.440
And I said Vietnam, which was like late 1960s to the 70s, right?
01:54:09.900
And that was, you think that's a long time ago?
01:54:16.100
And your position is, I just want to understand your position, it doesn't matter or it's not
01:54:22.820
Well, no, you brought up a draft, but I'm like...
01:54:30.100
I'll make a quick point about the Vietnam War and then I'll make my final point.
01:54:33.260
So first off, when it comes to the Vietnam War, granted, yes, it was a long time ago.
01:54:38.440
There are men who would still be alive today had they not been drafted.
01:54:49.340
You do realize that there are Vietnam veterans who are still alive today?
01:54:57.200
So anyways, let me have the back and forth with her.
01:55:00.040
So, and then there are men who did go to Vietnam, who did come back, who were drafted, who are
01:55:05.940
maimed, who are homeless because they have mental illness.
01:55:09.580
Many of them are drug addicted because they got addicted to drugs, coping with the either
01:55:13.980
physical pain or mental pain from the Vietnam War.
01:55:18.980
Now, you said, well, it was a long time ago, so it doesn't matter.
01:55:27.520
Slavery happened even further back than the Vietnam War.
01:55:31.600
Is it your position that because of how far back slavery occurred, that it doesn't matter
01:55:36.940
and doesn't have an impact on current black people?
01:55:47.020
Because you said, because you're bringing up people dying in war because they were drafted
01:55:53.680
We're talking about a war that they were drafted for years ago.
01:55:57.600
But we were presenting to you one of the metrics by which men face unfavorable outcomes
01:56:05.360
And you said, your argument was, well, it happened so long ago.
01:56:17.060
And we're closer to World War III than at any point in the past since the Cold War.
01:56:23.660
And you're trying to say that that's oppressing men?
01:56:30.860
Let me ask you a question when it comes to the oppression of men.
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If the government told you, said, hey, we need to have more children and the government forced
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you to have children and you didn't want to, do you think that that's evidence of government
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Whichever way you want to do it, you can do it by sex.
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If you want to do it consensually, but you have to get pregnant.
01:57:02.000
Oh, so the government forcing men to die is also, huh?
01:57:11.520
What if it has nothing to do with the fact that they're men and it has more to do with
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that they're strong, that they just happen to be the men in power.
01:57:17.880
And also if Kamala Harris had won, would you say that then?
01:57:27.820
No, just like, you guys, can you at least advance-
01:57:30.540
You have a point, but that doesn't mean that we have to agree with it, Brian.
01:57:35.780
I'm sorry, but if I say two plus two equals four, you do kind of-
01:57:59.640
When they all gathered together and wrote the constitution, was there a woman there?
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Was there a woman there saying, oh, well, I would love to just go and do more.
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Because if there were women there, then it would have been completely different.
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Thank God those great men had no women present.
01:58:16.640
I know plenty of the women who went into the army-
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It was like, oh, I'm going to go into the army and I'm going to fight for my country.
01:58:24.520
But, okay, oh no, the men didn't have the option or the choice in the beginning, but that's because of the men.
01:58:36.000
You're doing this thing where you just keep yelling over everybody and it's really annoying.
01:58:47.460
So you're saying a tiny, tiny little strata of men who are in powerful positions, of which there are also females, by the way.
01:58:54.280
Unfortunately, there are, but there are females in those positions of power.
01:58:59.460
But now, you're talking about now, but you're bringing up something from the past.
01:59:03.960
You guys also, in addition to not interrupting, I'm asking you, just so I can move conversation forward, just defer to me.
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Do you think that because somebody who's, maybe you don't view them as victims, but let's just say, like, if somebody's victimized and the person who caused the victimization shares a gender with them, then therefore they're not victimized.
01:59:34.100
But you're saying that it wasn't your choice because it was so long ago, right?
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To write the constitution, but then also complaining that you were drafted.
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Do you want to know why that makes complete sense?
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Because if men are to make the rules in a patriarchal setting, and if men do have the duty to do the law, then they've also got the duty to do what?
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If you have the responsibility of making the rules, then you have the responsibility to go and fight the wars.
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However, if there are women diluting the decision-making process that don't have to go and die in war, that actually means you have a higher social status than men in society.
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But I just, I know that I know a lot of women that are in the military.
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All the women here, you guys can, you got somebody.
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You know what she's been doing the past three years?
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She's been going on a hundred dates with foreigners, American men.
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She's been dating American men while her countrymen are being fucking slaughtered.
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You want to talk about male privilege, female privilege?
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She's in the, oh, you're rolling your fucking eyes.
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How is this not a bigger fucking evidence of a differential between the privilege that
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women have versus the oppression that men have?
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Her countrymen, her men in her country are fucking dying.
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She's in the fucking club in Miami, and you're rolling your fucking eyes about dead
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Okay, so the answer to this that would make it feel good is that both are equally suppressed.
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No, they're not, though, because there's no such thing as equal.
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If they're going and dying, and she's in the club in Miami, she got to do it.
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It's like if a guy, if a guy was to shoot, if I was to shoot her and shoot myself, and
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she's like, you hurt me, and I say, I'm hurt too.
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The one that got shot or the one that shot themselves?
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You would go to prison for a lot less than a man who shot her.
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So, it's actually, it wasn't, it wasn't, it actually wasn't all that good a point.
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I believe it was in either New York or Florida.
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A judge, a female judge, released a woman who stabbed, murdered her boyfriend.
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These women, they get less harsh sentences for certain crimes, et cetera.
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This woman murdered somebody, and she got, she got released.
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Well, men get away with rape cases all the time.
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They don't get released if they're convicted, though.
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Most of the time, they get a little pat on the back, though.
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But if you want to talk about, like, the legality argument, there is absolutely no doubt that women get treated a lot softer than men in the legal system for the same crimes.
02:03:36.420
Yeah, because somebody, along the way, we decided that men are stronger, and they think-
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For a man that's stronger and a man that thinks more logically, why would he just randomly kill a woman?
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A woman, she must have just went off her emotions and killed this guy.
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If men are so much bigger and stronger and more logical, why do we let women vote?
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So, just, you brought up the legal system and everything.
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I just want everybody to know that the legal system for divorces are completely changed where usually the man is favored now.
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And so, the woman will be treated like the man from like 20 years ago or 30 years ago.
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I can't get into the details of it, but trust me, the guy gets more leeway than the woman.
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I mean, this doesn't seem like an unequal outcome here.
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Some things transpired where like, I can't get into the details, damn it.
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So, I'm just saying like, in the scope of like, the woman being judged for, you know, what
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they do, you know, they're also like judged on, you know how like they say like the mother
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is the mother, you know, the child will always see the mother, you know, this is not true
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Oh, wait, so you're upset that the preferential treatment that women used to get, now it's
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But it sounds, but you got, there's no child support, no alimony, 50-50 custody.
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I could understand your argument if your ex-husband got like a higher proportion of custody.
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And so, that was stunning to me because I was a stay-at-home mom.
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You know, but I can't get into the details of that.
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But trust me, the man gets more in a legal system these days when it comes to family law.
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I would love to get into that, but I do need to move things on a little bit.
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Question, is submission unconditional or a conversation?
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So we can go around the table on this really quick if you guys can give quick answers.
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Is submission unconditional or do you have to have a conversation, I guess, before you
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If you're submissive without having conditions, you're just naive and stupid.
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So you, if I understand it correctly for the both of you, in each situation you might question
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the request or demand by your partner and depending on how you feel about it, you'll
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choose to go along with it, submit, or not go along with it.
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Is that a fair representation of your position?
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So submission, do you know what it means to be submissive?
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So is submissive something that you would be without any questions or do you need to have
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Of course, if it's different situations, I need the questions.
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I would say it is a conversation to have because if you're just submitting to everything
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they say because you deem yourself a submissive woman, that man who may not be a leader
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You're going to have to trust them, like she said, have that conversation, have the questions
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because that is important to know that you're being led in the right path.
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I have a clip for you guys to react to that's related to this.
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So you guys say you want leaders and dominant men and you're going to be submissive.
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I got away with everything under the last boss and it wasn't good for me at all.
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Like lead me, lead me when I'm in the mood to be led.
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Lead me when I'm in the mood to be led and I'm going to question every single thing that
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I want you to have a, like, I want you to be a leader, but I'm giving you no authority.
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Well, so what that means though is that, and this is the conversation that it comes back
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Because if we're in a relationship and there's one situation where you're like, actually,
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In this situation, I'm not going to be submissive.
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And what that means is that you get to decide when you're submissive and when you're not.
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So ultimately, that means that you're deciding in every situation.
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If y'all talked about it, then there should not be any other question on towards it.
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Why do I need to talk about it with you if you're submissive to me?
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Have been misled and put in a horrible situation.
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I've been submissive to a man that was only putting me in bad situations.
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So now, I'm going to ask you, like, what is your intention with this?
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Before, I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm just going to do it.
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If it's something simple like, take your shoes off, sure, you got that.
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You know when it's the most important to be submissive?
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Like, okay, we're about to go and, I don't know, rob this bank down here.
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I'm not going to ask, why do you need me to go to the left wing?
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I'm going to go to the left wing and I'm going to take care of what I need to take care of.
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But if they're like, oh, I need you to, hmm, I don't want to take it there, but I'm going to.
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I need you to sell your body so that we can buy a house.
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Yes, I'm going to go sell my body so that we can get a house together, daddy.
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When we're talking about this, I don't think, like, you mentioned robbing a bank, criminality.
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That would be, that would not be, like, your man is not living in a virtuous manner.
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Because there's so many different types of men.
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Even though you guys like to collectively gang up together, that doesn't mean that there's different types of men or not.
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Basically, is that you're taking it to some extremes.
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And obviously, within the context of the situation, within the context of the conversation, we're not talking about asking you to do absolutely heinous things like that.
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We're talking about within the boundaries of a normal relationship.
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So nobody's going to ask their wife to go and sell their ass on the street.
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And nobody's going to ask their wife to rob a bank.
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Although, if you did do it, that's pretty based.
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If you did, to hide the body, to rob the bank, that's based.
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But nobody's going to really ask them to do that.
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So, like, if you were to ask men who want a kind of more traditional dynamic and they want their woman to be submissive to them and they want to lead, I can't imagine you could find any man who would be okay with the following scenario.
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So, I mean, taking your examples to even more extreme, what if your man tells you to go jump off a bridge and delete yourself?
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So, any man who's in favor of a submissive dynamic is going to say, no, that is beyond the scope of what we're talking about here when women should be submissive.
02:15:15.080
So maybe that's the confusion between today's man and a different man.
02:15:19.160
No, because today's man will put you in the worst scenario and then expect you to be submissive.
02:15:26.560
Okay, but there's different type of people in the world.
02:15:28.540
So, just to be clear, you've dated multiple men that have tried to prostitute you.
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I would have no issue with you not being submissive to them then.
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In fact, you should break up with a guy who's trying to get you to become a prostitute.
02:15:43.820
But how are you to determine that in the first 10 minutes?
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Because you said that we determined that in the first 10 minutes that we're going to fuck with this guy or not.
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And then also, if you just walked into the house and someone says, take your shoes off, just walked into the house.
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Isn't that the same thing as if you were with a man that had horrible fucking thought processes and thought like, oh, yeah.
02:16:08.180
Like, the only way for us to get money is if my girl goes out and fucking tricks niggas, right?
02:16:17.480
No, but I'm making a point and you're trying to dismiss it.
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I think the conditions aren't based on what they're asking.
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Like, if I have to pay my own things, if I'm taking you out, I'm not going to be submissive.
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But if you're paying my bills and you're doing what you're supposed to do as a man, you're going to get blind submission.
02:16:47.620
Are you going to take me out and make me dance?
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Because if he's not dominant enough, then you'll decide whether you're submissive or not.
02:17:10.620
So, when you're dominant, because dominant means 24-7 dominance.
02:17:14.820
Like, complete dominance, the way submission is, is black and white, right?
02:17:24.800
And if submission is black and white, like either, yes, master.
02:17:29.980
If your boyfriend or husband is asking something that contravenes your moral or ethical code,
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in this case, prostitution or self-harm, then, like, one, that should be the end of the relationship.
02:17:45.280
But when we're talking about submission, typically, we're talking about, like, decisions that would
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be within, like, a sort of socially acceptable and common purview.
02:18:01.620
And we can't really have the conversation as well.
02:18:06.300
If every time we want to have a generalized conversation, he gets taken all the way, way to the extreme.
02:18:11.300
It's, like, impossible to have the conversation.
02:18:13.880
Is it because there's nothing generalized about it?
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Yeah, nobody's asking anybody to jump off a bridge.
02:18:23.180
I'm not going to say no based off what you're asking me, but I might question you based off
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In general, for us, are you doing anything beneficial?
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It's about picking the right partner to be submissive.
02:18:42.560
When it comes to submission, though, if you say, oh, well, he made me do this, then
02:18:46.200
kind of the buck stops with you because you chose a guy who would choose to prostitute
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But if you said that you wouldn't, then you're not submissive.
02:18:53.820
If you have such a poor judge of character that you, like, were to choose someone like
02:18:59.840
I don't think you have to choose to be submissive, but choose who you're going to be submissive
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It's like, I'm not going to be submissive today.
02:19:07.540
No, I'm not going to be submissive to you because you're not shit.
02:19:15.460
You got to pick the right, everybody got to pick the right partner for sure.
02:19:18.340
I do have to move things on, though, a little bit here.
02:19:29.220
It says, for the love of God, can we once for all expunge the woman-y's talking point
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Men process and express emotions very differently.
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For this matter, in our societal duty to suppress emotions and stoic...
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You want a man that's in touch with their emotions.
02:19:59.360
He's just saying men are meant to be stoic and emotionally.
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You want a man that's in touch with your emotions, he's in jail.
02:20:13.660
Because that's what men who are controlled by their emotions, they're generally going
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to be much more disposed to things like being in jail.
02:20:21.240
Because if you're a guy who's controlled by emotions and you react and you just react
02:20:25.080
with anger or whatever else, you're going to be much, much more likely to be in prison.
02:20:30.420
You can be in touch with your emotions and have self-control at the same time.
02:20:34.180
You can be in touch with your emotions and have self-control at the same time.
02:20:38.120
Yeah, but we're saying somebody who has a lack of emotional control.
02:20:42.660
I thought it was saying men who are more emotional are in jail.
02:20:47.340
Would you say that men who, for example, commit crimes are more or less likely to be able
02:21:13.840
And we wonder why marriage slash birth rates have collapsed.
02:21:17.560
More red flags up in this piece than a CPP for a...
02:21:27.760
Lucas' father-in-law was, I assume, drafted for Vietnam.
02:21:33.300
I mean, I think there's still a couple of World War II vets, like a few, maybe.
02:21:41.240
In Israel, it's mandatory men and women to serve.
02:21:44.680
Yeah, but if you look at the death rate in Israel, it's much, much, like, it far outweighs
02:21:51.400
So women generally tend to do, like, support roles.
02:21:54.100
Actually, women in Israel Air Force, they fly airplanes.
02:22:03.520
So if you look at the number of women that are in the...
02:22:05.920
I think it's something like 35% of the IDF are women.
02:22:08.500
And then if you look at the death rate, it's, like, 1% or something of women.
02:22:12.900
Yeah, because it depends on your position, not many women.
02:22:17.760
Yeah, but women still do men's position in the Israeli IDF.
02:22:22.100
Yeah, like, occasionally they do, but the numbers in terms of deaths don't reflect that
02:22:26.240
women are, like, overrepresented or even equally represented.
02:22:29.640
Normally, the women who go to the IDF will do support roles.
02:22:33.880
The same amount of men that serve three years, the same amount women serve two and a half
02:22:40.780
But do you know what a support role is there, right?
02:22:42.600
Yeah, so you've got a support role, and then, for those who don't know, you've got people
02:23:02.240
The reason men who are ruled by their emotions are in jail and women are not is because women
02:23:06.980
that lash out and hit men are considered crazy.
02:23:14.980
There's definitely differentials when it comes to, like, DV2.
02:23:17.660
In fact, like, a woman could be the aggressor, and then the cops come, and they've got to
02:23:22.480
arrest somebody, and oftentimes, because of the bias in policing, I think it's called
02:23:33.620
They've got to arrest somebody, and overwhelmingly, it's going to be the man, even if he's not
02:23:52.340
So just to be clear, your position on this is that the man is not the aggressor in a
02:24:08.300
Yeah, but now it's, you've got to let people talk.
02:24:10.780
So, I mean, actually, if you look at, for example, one-directional violence, so it's
02:24:15.620
like, it's not, so there's a mutual domestic violence situations where they're both kind
02:24:21.620
But if you look at one-directional, it's like overwhelmingly, I think it's 70% of women
02:24:26.200
are one-directionally physically abusive towards their partners.
02:24:28.800
So, in those sorts of situations, if the cops get called, there's like a pretty, there's
02:24:35.020
like a high chance that he could still end up going to jail, even if he didn't put a
02:24:42.560
So, like, how about, like, just a random guy who's never done anything wrong, never laid
02:24:47.400
a hand on a woman, and his girlfriend's, like, smacking him around, like, actually hurting
02:24:53.320
him, you think he earned going to jail when he's the victim?
02:25:00.560
Unfortunately, a lot of the times, that's not the case.
02:25:03.060
But in that sense, it's not like they shouldn't, they should have investigated that.
02:25:08.780
They should have talked to each person and figured out, you know.
02:25:13.320
Yeah, but what if it's like just a he said, she said, and then there's like a policy in
02:25:16.540
the police department that says, well, whoever's like the larger individual, or in some cases,
02:25:20.840
this is the man, they're going to get arrested.
02:25:23.040
But there's always the person, there's always the person that you could tell is more angry
02:25:29.580
Well, there's court, there's searing, I don't know, go through it and see who these people
02:25:36.940
Lucas, thank you for those couple messages there.
02:25:40.060
We have actually here saying, go ahead, Revel, if you can read this one.
02:25:45.500
If the woman was discovered to have a postpartum depression, she could get off of less prison
02:25:50.120
time, or possibly entirely, there is no postpartum for males, just insanity, please.
02:25:57.540
And then there was that whole like, battered wife syndrome, which was used as a defense.
02:26:05.360
Like women used it as a defense to get off of, like when they murdered or something, like
02:26:14.880
The numbers actually don't bear out that there's a big domestic violence problem in Australia.
02:26:18.700
But there's this massive media campaign done by like feminists that will basically act
02:26:26.460
It's absolutely shocking the way that they depict men.
02:26:30.480
And there's all these laws now that have come in because of the pressure where women can
02:26:35.680
basically just go into a police station and just have the man not be able to see their
02:26:40.340
kids and have the man just have this restraining order.
02:26:43.980
I heard something similar in Spain, which is super feminist, where like, there's actually
02:26:50.420
financial incentive to make a report of like either domestic violence or like some sort
02:26:58.480
And the women will just automatically, they actually get like some financial assistance.
02:27:04.180
And look, I mean, on one hand, like if one, these are terrible crimes.
02:27:10.640
And I think these in that situation, there should be some sort of assistance to victims
02:27:16.800
But what they found is it's actually been incentivizing women to report domestic violence or other kinds
02:27:23.100
of crimes that just never occurred whatsoever because of the amount of assistance that they're
02:27:30.360
I mean, so I don't know if there's any Spanish viewers or anything that can like weigh in
02:27:39.000
I do have to get to the next super chat that we have the state of things and y'all academic
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women made up mansplaining sucks to suck, says the state of things.
02:27:56.800
Who came up with the idea that women were crazy?
02:28:03.700
I don't even know what you're asking right now.
02:28:05.300
Oh, if I wanted to backtrack just a tad bit just right before this next super chat, I was
02:28:12.100
talking where we were all talking about how, oh, men get off easier, right?
02:28:18.660
No, we were talking about how women get off easier.
02:28:21.420
Women get off easier because a man thinks logically.
02:28:24.080
So he would obviously not like mix his hormones into doing something stupid to a woman, like
02:28:40.500
I'm not interested in defending the claim I didn't make.
02:28:44.840
They said women were deemed crazy if they hit a man and men if they hit the woman is
02:29:01.300
But who in the big spectrum of things, who said that the woman was crazy?
02:29:10.940
There's a whole thing about how women are crazy and they only act on emotion.
02:29:16.540
I mean, you're trying to forward a premise that I don't even agree with and I'm not interested.
02:29:31.880
I mean, but like, why are you forwarding a position that wasn't stated by any of the panelists or...
02:29:41.140
But that's definitely something I've heard before is that all women are crazy or women are too hormonal and they act solely off their emotions, which might be true.
02:29:55.140
And it could be the case that you've dated some crazy, like, crazy men, whatever.
02:29:59.120
I actually have fucked with more crazier men than I have crazier women.
02:30:03.960
But like, in your own experience, have you noticed any differences between men and women when it comes to their behavior?
02:30:08.880
When it comes to a woman, when I was dating a woman, she wouldn't call me crazy.
02:30:15.480
She wouldn't go out her way to make me feel like I wasn't making a logical, I don't know, explanation.
02:30:25.240
But when a man was talking to me, he was like, oh, you're just talking about your emotions.
02:30:29.360
You're just trying to make it seem like, oh, this is okay because you're on your period.
02:30:34.160
Or, oh, you have so many hormones, like, obviously you would talk to me crazy, did it not, because it's just not logical.
02:30:42.600
Yeah, it's just like, that's, obviously a woman didn't make up that a woman was crazy because of their hormones.
02:30:51.800
But you're saying that that's like, oh, well, not you, not you, because you didn't say that.
02:30:56.920
But they're just trying to make that seem like that's, like, normal.
02:31:00.540
And I know for a fact that a woman didn't say, oh, well, bitches are crazy because they have more hormones than you.
02:31:10.260
So now, if I track that forward and I say, okay, well, women get let off easier because they have so many hormones and they act off their emotions.
02:31:21.760
And that's why we're giving them a break on the legal side.
02:31:27.580
And that's why they're getting let off easier than a man when it comes to it.
02:31:44.000
You're just repeating what the super chat said.
02:31:47.820
If you read the super chat, that's not what he said.
02:31:53.040
So here, in like three sentences, what is your position?
02:31:59.080
My position is that a man came up with the fact that a woman is crazy.
02:32:03.220
And now they're mad that they get put in jail more recently than a woman.
02:32:09.440
Because a man, only thing a man can do is plead insanity.
02:32:19.160
You're saying women, we get let off because we're emotional.
02:32:27.960
Women don't get let off because they're emotional.
02:32:36.800
But the thing is, if you guys both put a gun to a man's head, smoked him, if you did
02:32:43.820
It's not because, oh, she might have been a bit emotional.
02:32:52.600
That the woman was more emotional and that's why she did it.
02:32:58.340
Women have much higher rates of psychiatric illness.
02:33:05.260
Then men, 25% of American women are on at least one prescription psych medication.
02:33:10.240
Also, Rachel, isn't it the case that when it comes to trait neuroticism, women rank higher
02:33:29.960
Would it be strange or crazy if a woman has fantasies of having a husband and she wants
02:33:34.720
to dress like Ellen DeGeneres sometimes and have lesbian experiences with women?
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Imagine having a husband but wants to be gay sometimes.
02:33:51.600
Because, oh, no, I want to eat pussy and also I like to get penetrated.
02:33:59.880
And I guess last thing on, like, going back to her point, you've dated women and men.
02:34:04.640
I mean, have you noticed any differences in terms of, because, I mean, didn't you say,
02:34:14.280
I've kind of made a couple TikToks about that that got a lot of views.
02:34:18.160
Like, men, when men lie, they will keep lying to you, to your face.
02:34:23.800
But when, if they get caught in a lie, they're going to keep adding on to the lie.
02:34:27.120
But if women lie, they're going to either cry or straight up ignore it.
02:34:30.960
Like, there's certain nuances with differences and stuff like that.
02:34:34.220
I feel like, I don't think it's crazy to want both or do both.
02:34:39.620
I feel like even monogamy is kind of a touchy-feely.
02:34:43.380
I feel like all of us should be free and unlimited to do what we want.
02:34:50.780
If everybody was non-monogamous and everybody was just dating everybody,
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do you think that would be better or worse than a society that is purely monogamous?
02:35:07.520
And another country, which is just, let's say, America.
02:35:12.880
And in gangbangland, everyone's just doing gangbangs.
02:35:15.980
And in monogamy land, they're all just having families.
02:35:19.700
I don't think, because I feel like we need a little bit of everything.
02:35:22.160
So I don't think too much everybody being monogamous or everybody being polyamorous would be good.
02:35:27.380
I don't feel like too much polyamorous would be good.
02:35:28.040
So in this situation, it's like all or nothing.
02:35:34.360
And one of them, everyone is having sex with everyone all the time.
02:35:40.540
I guess monogamy would be better just for safety.
02:35:43.380
Only because polyamorous would be cool, but not everybody is going to be safe and smart about it.
02:35:49.400
And do you think that in gangbangland, there'd be a lot of unplanned pregnancies, and there'd be a lot of STDs, and there'd be a lot of children raised by single mothers, for example?
02:36:06.300
But do you think that's a reflection of why those standards are actually put at the forefront of, I mean, we should be putting those standards at the forefront, which is having a monogamous family?
02:36:19.820
I feel like you should be doing whatever it is for you.
02:36:22.600
I feel like monogamous is good for certain people.
02:36:29.340
I think it's just to keep everybody safe and respecting everybody's boundaries, because I feel like if you love someone, you want to make sure that they feel special and that they're respected and whatever they want.
02:36:42.440
You want to respect their boundaries if you love them.
02:36:44.020
I mean, if it's safety that you want, then monogamy land would be the best.
02:36:47.200
But in monogamy land, do you think that they need polyamory?
02:36:55.840
We need polyamory, because we need somebody, we need, we need options.
02:37:00.560
How are we going to have more experiences to pass down to our kids and give our kids advice of something we've never done?
02:37:07.160
So you mean sexual experiences to pass down to your kids?
02:37:09.140
Like, how are we going to teach, like, okay, look, I feel like every mom has a conversation with their daughter about their punani, right?
02:37:17.200
How are their moms going to have their experiences on what to do and take care of that punani unless they was out there and having a little fun and having different partners?
02:37:25.380
So let me just clarify, your argument, hold on a second, hold on, let me just clarify, your argument is that a mother can't teach their child about the intricacies of the punani if they've only ever had sex with one man.
02:37:42.380
I can't, but your child was going to be more prepared if you have more experience.
02:37:45.880
So a woman who married her childhood sweetheart and has had sex with him and has had multiple children, she's incapable of telling her daughter about how to handle her vagina.
02:37:55.580
Not incapable, she just might be less knowledgeable.
02:37:58.620
Tell me exactly what the factors are when you've taken multiple penises as opposed to just one.
02:38:02.900
What are the factors that will increase your sort of understanding of the nani?
02:38:05.680
Well, first of all, every man has their own chemical balance.
02:38:10.220
So a man, different men affect your punani differently.
02:38:15.360
And if you're messing with multiple guys at one time, that might affect you differently.
02:38:18.920
So what you're saying is that if you don't have sex with multiple men, then you won't get different infections.
02:38:26.240
If that man is being faithful to you and you're being faithful to them, you're probably not going to get any infections.
02:38:35.120
So then could it, in monogamy land, for example, if the mother taught her daughter to only have sex with one man and then she did the same thing, she would never have to worry about infections from different men.
02:38:48.680
So that's why we need a little bit of everything because not everybody is going to be monocular.
02:38:52.920
So that actually was the case and in most of the developed world, sorry, not the most of the developed world, but in most of the world throughout history, that was the standard.
02:39:01.380
And especially throughout Christian Europe, for example, and in Muslim countries, normally in these religious countries, you get one partner.
02:39:09.360
And even in India and the more sort of like religious parts of India, they have arranged marriages from a young age.
02:39:14.580
So this is actually, this is actually the, they do that in Israel, they encourage that sort of thing or they're pretty, they're a bit degenerate in Israel.
02:39:21.140
My concern is that monogamy is on one side a lot of the time.
02:39:23.980
It actually works for many years, the monogamy and the fixing kind of arrangement.
02:39:43.380
I'm not gonna, I said I was completely done with women.
02:39:47.460
I got, I got, I got a little shorty and then I got two guys.
02:40:02.160
You want to go out, you want to have somebody because some people are good for business and some people are good to party with.
02:40:10.820
I'm talking to five guys, but I don't date them.
02:40:16.300
When you say talking to them, but like, have you been on multiple dates?
02:40:34.060
Here, I have a chat coming through, then we're going to get into this thing.
02:40:40.180
As a representative of the woman community, I can confirm that women are crazy.
02:40:51.440
I've also heard from women who are like, I don't have, I don't like being friends with women.
02:40:56.240
Like, they're straight, but they're like, I don't, I don't even like being friends with women.
02:41:00.180
They're like, just having guy friends, it's just like more chill.
02:41:05.560
Do you want to say that those girls are goers, or no?
02:41:08.940
Because I've experienced, like, if there's a girl that hangs out with-
02:41:25.520
But like, I feel like if you start drinking more, it's gonna be crazy.
02:41:28.980
A 5% fucking seltzer isn't gonna fucking kill me.
02:41:39.680
Anyways, I've had friends that have guy friends, and the other guys that have seen her but
02:41:47.440
aren't a part of her friend group have said, oh, she's a gober.
02:41:51.460
Like, she just hangs out with those guys because she wants to be with them or like hook up with
02:41:56.300
And like, I think that that's not cool, but at the same time, it's like, why can't you
02:42:03.620
Because girls, once you have a girl pack that really hits different, like, that hits so
02:42:10.360
Like, it's not that we're just looking for no solutions or like...
02:42:14.720
Yeah, but the problem is you all secretly hate each other.
02:42:17.920
I have four girlfriends that I definitely, 100% have no hate for in my heart.
02:42:21.760
You absolutely hate them, and you would hate to see them happy.
02:42:26.760
I'm literally praying for their happiness every single day.
02:42:30.060
So just because you're a man who thinks that does not mean that that's me.
02:42:34.700
Because me, honestly, I have multiple girlfriends that 100% do their own thing.
02:42:43.340
But if you're doing your own thing, put you up there on a pedestal.
02:42:48.400
Because we've all like, we've even been in front of women who will do something like
02:42:53.280
They'll have a girl that they know who they're friends with come up in, you know, like,
02:43:20.140
Altogether, I think we've been friends for about three and a half years.
02:43:23.780
There's not really much time to form a friendship.
02:43:25.900
And I have never had a single ounce of hate for any of those girls.
02:43:28.040
Yeah, you've never had a time when one of them's not around and you're just a bit like,
02:43:33.020
I have one friend that I've been friends with for seven, maybe eight years, and I've never
02:43:44.840
Are we going around the table, I think, on something?
02:43:48.280
No, we were talking about if women are crazy or not.
02:43:50.460
Well, my experience with women friends is that some of them turn out to be jealous of the
02:44:08.360
If husband is an NYC big live partner, make seven figs, six, four, prize himself on impeccable
02:44:15.480
virtue, honor, integrity, and competence, should I submit to him no questions asked?
02:44:22.440
So, the husband, lawyer, New York City, big law partner, seven figures, six foot four,
02:44:30.260
in good shape, impeccable virtue, honor, integrity, and competence, should you submit to him no
02:45:04.280
Everybody depends from the man and from the situation.
02:45:08.500
If a man is rich and beautiful, it doesn't mean that I accept everything.
02:45:29.720
There's still questions because at the same time, if he makes all this money, are you still
02:45:41.020
And if he's fit, is he encouraging you to be fit as well or is he encouraging you to-
02:45:57.220
I would like to lay on the floor and tell you how much I love you while you give me
02:46:02.920
You've gained 100 pounds since you started dating.
02:46:23.600
Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
02:46:59.960
I mean, on a scale of 1 to 10, how do you rank your own looks?
02:47:12.680
I'm only going to say 9 because there's always something I could do a little bit better.
02:47:41.800
Well, Chad, I just want to say this is, by their own rating, the most beautiful panel
02:48:03.400
Considering you had flakes, but you still managed to get a whole entire panel of women
02:48:06.780
who are among the most beautiful women that have ever existed on planet Earth.
02:48:16.680
Like, you're at least going off of your guys' ratings.
02:48:32.320
I am not worthy to be in the presence of these...
02:48:44.160
I was nervous at the start, but now I'm, like, really nervous to be here.
02:49:12.040
Unless you say you want me to, I will not rate you back.
02:49:17.060
We just want you guys to rate us, and we want you to be honest.
02:49:23.740
If you think I'm a 3, I'm not going to be upset.
02:49:59.380
If he was over 6 feet, then it would have been.
02:50:09.780
But if he was, like, because 6 feet, like, if you're standing next to a pretty tall woman,
02:50:15.720
Like, if we got on some heels, if you're a 5'7 woman and you got on some heels, you're going
02:50:24.380
I'm always looking straight at the bunny button.
02:50:42.540
I'm going to go ahead and say, I'll give you a 7.
02:50:47.920
If we go to in and out after, I'll give you a 7.5.
02:50:51.520
And then for you, I would definitely give you, like, a 9.
02:51:00.240
Bro, one girl says something and then they just repeat it.
02:51:07.460
It's about the look because he represents himself professional, intelligent, clean.
02:51:36.060
I mean, I'm going off of also how you act present yourself.
02:51:42.700
But you don't have, like, confidence to say you're a 10.
02:51:49.060
If you think you're that, I could agree with that.
02:52:17.480
If there was a guy that said that they weren't a 10, but they were funny, they might have went up and scared.
02:52:25.500
I'm just curious, like, why can't average women just admit they're average?
02:52:36.860
No girl at this table is, I feel like I'm being a little generous.
02:52:44.460
That doesn't stop me from looking in the mirror and telling myself how beautiful I am.
02:52:49.960
So, you're saying everybody fives or something?
02:53:11.580
It's my right to think average looking women are average.
02:53:15.460
I'm so shocked because I'm looking around and y'all are bad as fuck.
02:53:53.920
Like, if we're doing comparisons, I don't think anybody at this table is above a five.
02:54:23.800
Sometimes, we don't have really beautiful women.
02:54:38.620
I can't look around the table and see one single thing that any of you could possibly
02:54:47.020
I need to send the asteroid and the missiles and the nuke for this segment.
02:55:29.200
Can you just, like, do me a favor and be honest for, like, two minutes?
02:55:34.680
If you go around and you rate everybody at this table like I know you want to, just do
02:55:41.500
I'm not going to do it unless you guys want the rating.
02:55:57.320
I know a 9.5, but that's only because she has red hair.
02:56:07.320
I mean, if all y'all had red hair, I don't know if, you know.
02:56:19.940
No 50-50 husband financially handles, as he says, everything.
02:56:25.300
Did you girls miss the part about impeccable virtue, honor, integrity, and competence?
02:56:46.280
Congrats on snagging yourself a big law 6'4 lawyer.
02:57:10.640
Brian, when are you going to bring me on as your co-chair?
02:57:20.640
Let's switch gears here a little bit related to this.
02:57:24.400
It's still related to looks, but a different question.
02:57:27.520
Do you think you will be better looking in 10 years' time?
02:57:32.880
So, I'm not asking you if you'll still be attractive.
02:57:36.540
I think women can be attractive, 20s, 30s, 40s, etc.
02:57:41.400
I'm just asking, compared to how you look now, will you be more attractive comparatively?
02:58:07.660
It's like just physical appearance based on how the world would perceive you.
02:58:21.920
You can buy a personal trainer and the things you need, vitamins, supplements, and all that
02:58:37.640
Oh, and then if you ask certain people, Beyonce is more attractive now than she was when she's
02:58:55.540
If me and Jay-Z were in a room together and I was like.
02:59:02.460
I was like, yo, Jay-Z, if you could, like, re-wound, like, if Beyonce could go back when
02:59:06.600
she was, I don't know, 21 or whatever, he's picking 21-year-old Beyonce.
02:59:12.020
He wouldn't have done it because, honestly, the whole basis of their relationship was
02:59:20.200
His taste has changed, though, as he's gotten older, too.
02:59:26.380
So, you're telling me that he cheated on Beyonce for Becky with the good hair for no reason?
02:59:38.080
Oh, so he prefers younger women, so he'd prefer younger Beyonce.
02:59:45.500
But I'm also not saying that she looks any worse, because she don't.
02:59:54.740
I just know there are certain ones that look good.
03:00:04.700
So, I plan on continuing to take care of myself, work out, eat healthy, Botox, filler, whatever
03:00:36.780
I think I'm going to be at home with, like, a bunch of cats hiding out, like, just.
03:00:47.360
Like, I'm in my prime to, like, be at home, drink a cup of tea, and watch, like, Netflix.
03:00:52.740
Do you think that Playboy would be more interested in current you or you 20 years ago?
03:00:59.660
Do you think that Playboy would be more interested in hiring current you or you 20 years ago?
03:01:10.920
And then, so, can I get a definitive answer on 67, though?
03:01:48.660
If you're always mad, now you look like the angry cat.
03:01:54.500
I'm happy with the explanations, but if you can, just give me an answer.
03:02:24.400
I guess, yes, because beauty industry developing every day, so now girls can change boobs,
03:02:30.920
So, in 10 years, I think we can change whole of our avatars for the new one.
03:02:35.680
Or you just show your photos and make it the same.
03:02:38.220
So, my position on this would be, even with surgical intervention, I don't think it would
03:02:46.580
But, like, let's just remove, like, surgical intervention from this conversation.
03:02:51.300
Just kind of, like, you can still be taking good care of yourself, but you're naturally
03:02:59.920
But anything else, I guess, better looking at 47?
03:03:03.700
I'm not better looking, but I can tell you, when I was young, I was very hot, but I was
03:03:26.920
Okay, but, so, we'll say that you're a 12 out of 10 then.
03:03:31.880
So, you just said that you're not very hot now.
03:03:34.460
The beauty, it's not only physical, it's together, it's complete.
03:03:37.740
All right, and if, you said you would want to get, you did, you would want to get cosmetic
03:03:44.900
Not yet, but maybe if I will have children and maybe some of my body looks not so good,
03:03:51.940
But as we see, then future, you can replace any organ of your body and anything.
03:03:59.840
Yes, you know, my, one of my ex-school girls, she met me here in Miami.
03:04:05.780
We didn't see each other 20 years, but she told me I definitely look much more better now
03:04:23.840
No, I, of course, I'll not be, uh, like, in the mind of the people, I'm not, will be so
03:04:33.000
But there, I will have some other values to attract the people, to attract...
03:04:39.260
But looks, it depends from, you know, if you have a fucking set face, who cares about your,
03:04:47.420
Who's the, can you think of, like, somebody who you think is really ugly?
03:04:55.320
Do, do, do, is there, like, like, Putin, do you think he's ugly?
03:05:05.180
You know, I try to not judge the people, because, you know, no, why?
03:05:09.380
Look, I don't want to judge anyone, who I am to judge.
03:05:19.900
Of course, he gave me this face, he gave me this appearance, he gave me this character.
03:05:24.800
Do you, do you think Vladimir Putin is physically attractive?
03:05:28.360
For me, not, but I know some girls crazy about him.
03:05:32.740
Okay, and do you know, do you think Brad Pitt, when he was, like, maybe 20, 30 years younger,
03:05:38.300
He was attractive, but not for me, he is even more attractive.
03:05:40.500
Like, physically attractive guy you've ever seen, who we would know, who's a celebrity?
03:05:49.440
Okay, so if Leonardo DiCaprio, like, looks sad a little bit, and he's just like this,
03:05:54.300
versus, like, I don't know, whoever you think is unattractive, like Vladimir Putin,
03:06:00.140
but Vladimir Putin is smiling while invading a country.
03:06:04.780
Do you think that, like, Vladimir Putin smiling is more or less attractive than Leonardo DiCaprio
03:06:13.860
But he's old, and he's the young, and it's a completely different people.
03:06:17.780
Oh, he's old, and he's young, so age does have something to do with it.
03:06:21.540
No, but he's completely like a grandfather, and he's like a young chick.
03:06:30.700
I mean, you've kind of, like, in a roundabout way, kind of proved my point,
03:06:38.360
I like the face type of Leonardo DiCaprio, okay?
03:06:46.020
But I'm just like, okay, I guess the simplest way to put it would be,
03:06:49.840
think of the ugliest person you know and the most attractive person you know.
03:06:53.540
I don't think if most attractive is, like, frowning versus least attractive is smiling,
03:07:05.960
Like, if you're unattractive and you smile, it gives you a boost,
03:07:09.700
and if you're attractive and you're upset, it goes like that.
03:07:13.620
I don't think this idea of, like, well, if you're smiling and glowing,
03:07:16.800
all of a sudden, like, if I'm in a room with some, like, male model,
03:07:22.540
and I'm just, like, smiling, like, the male model who's in the fucking corner,
03:07:32.920
I think you just exaggerate between two different things.
03:07:38.260
And also, women do tend to like stoic-faced men as well.
03:07:41.500
They're like stone-faced men rather than men who are showing their teeth all the time.
03:07:57.820
I literally drank two seltzers, and you're talking about some drunk.
03:08:07.620
Will you be better looking at 57 than now at 37?
03:08:15.540
And then moving backwards, were you better looking at 27 versus now at 37?
03:08:26.220
And then if we go to 18, better looking at 18 versus now at 37?
03:08:42.660
But, you know, maybe they react so much because they know I'm young and stupid.
03:08:46.820
And they know, you know, when you're adults, they don't think like that.
03:08:50.360
So, they're just afraid maybe to approach you so easily.
03:08:59.080
And when do you think men would think you were better looking?
03:09:01.500
I look at it every day good because I love myself.
03:09:05.220
The most important thing is, you know, you need to love yourself.
03:09:08.760
Love is you need to care about yourself, about your body, about everything.
03:09:12.660
And about the man, the man, of course, like young girls more, but still, some men loves
03:10:02.960
If you ask me this question, they're both the same.
03:10:07.600
Because like how good you look is typically like external.
03:10:14.120
But at the same time, like me personally, I went from a young age and I thought that I
03:10:30.460
And I was like, okay, I gained a little bit of weight.
03:10:41.440
If I, if I depend on if I start, stop drinking and I make sure that I take care of myself at 43.
03:10:50.640
Because have you looked at, uh, what's her name?
03:11:02.400
Just to be clear, you think that gaining weight makes you more healthy?
03:11:08.380
No, I think gaining weight makes you look unhealthy and it, it, it drags on your skin.
03:11:12.840
If I am gaining a lot of weight and now I got all this extra skin, right?
03:11:19.900
There's people who can afford to pay for that, to get it fixed.
03:11:22.780
It's like, it's just, yeah, the thing I was getting at, cause you said that you were hot at 20,
03:11:26.800
but then you said you were hotter at 23 because you gained a bit more weight and you were a bit more healthy.
03:11:31.440
No, no, no, I think that that was misinterpreted because at 18, I might have been maybe like
03:11:36.740
only 10 pounds lighter than this, but then after 20, after 18, I gained a lot of weight.
03:11:44.060
So you're saying that you have gained weight, which makes you less attractive.
03:11:48.700
I think it made me feel personally more insecure.
03:11:51.740
Do you think there's a point of which you could gain enough weight that would make you less attractive?
03:11:56.380
Um, yeah, for me personally, because I know that I'm only 4'11".
03:12:17.720
23 or 43, 43, I'ma be, I'ma be, I'ma be, I'ma be, I'ma be, I'ma be, I'ma be, baby,
03:12:26.640
Wait, can I get, can I get a temperature check from, from the panel?
03:12:44.580
Hold on, when I'm 43, I think that I will be fine because I'll have, one, money, two.
03:12:49.300
Oh, my God, answer, listen to the fucking question.
03:12:52.940
Three, no, you, you answered the wrong question.
03:13:00.900
So, for, the question is not, will you still be attractive at 43?
03:13:10.160
I've literally repeated the question multiple times.
03:13:13.740
Will you be more attractive at 43 versus now at 23?
03:13:41.920
But, so, so, so, just to be clear, I'll restate it back.
03:13:46.120
At 63, you will be more attractive than you are now.
03:13:56.880
Okay, that's when it, I'm a wrinkled old bag of raisins, nigga.
03:14:12.000
You're, bro, this girl has an attitude problem.
03:14:19.960
I've been on the show how many times I used to.
03:14:28.680
Will you be better looking in 10 years time at 59?
03:16:12.840
Why don't you just tell me the age where you think you'll be not as good looking as you
03:16:26.040
Why don't you, instead of giving me a troll answer, why don't you give me a real answer?
03:16:28.820
Do you, or is that, do you genuinely think that?
03:16:35.560
Um, you're 24, you're single, would you prefer to date a guy, like just on physical appearance?
03:16:40.300
Would you prefer, uh, I'm going to give you your two perfect guys.
03:16:43.960
So, they meet your, uh, like personality, whatever virtue criteria.
03:16:52.200
Would you rather date a 26-year-old or a 96-year-old?
03:16:58.700
My honest opinion, a 26-year-old, because it's closer to my age.
03:17:01.900
Um, and you, so you genuinely think you'll be better looking, uh, at 74 than you are now
03:17:27.480
You've not only gotten the most beautiful panel that has ever existed, but you've also
03:17:31.320
got someone who literally defies the laws of aging.
03:17:36.840
But she's saying herself, how she views herself.
03:17:39.920
So, if she thinks aging is beautiful, then that could be her notion.
03:17:46.980
Oh, tell you what, if you'll be, the whatever podcast, all of you here, by the way, there's
03:17:54.120
Um, the whatever podcast, all of you who said you'll be better looking in 10, 20, 30 years
03:18:02.580
I will get you the best plastic surgeon, the best plastic surgeon in California, and I will
03:18:10.280
You have to get an age advancement plastic surgery to your face because you guys all think
03:18:15.660
you'll be better looking 10, 20, 30 years down the road.
03:18:18.980
There are procedures we can perhaps put on certain makeup that makes it look.
03:18:23.280
And we're going to tattoo, like permanent tattoo this on you.
03:18:26.860
We're going to do certain plastic surgery to make y'all look older.
03:18:31.700
I'll pay for the whole thing and I'll give you $5,000 on top of that.
03:18:38.240
I'll give you $5,000 and I'll pay for the plastic surgery.
03:18:45.340
These are the things you mentioned aren't things that necessarily make someone more beautiful,
03:18:51.280
So this girl over here, she says she's going to be better looking at 74.
03:18:58.580
You know how like Hollywood can age somebody like they put on makeup.
03:19:04.160
We can do plastic surgery stuff to like sink your skin a little bit, loosen up your skin
03:19:12.680
I help elderly and I've seen beautiful 100 year olds.
03:19:20.280
Okay, so just to be clear, I've literally had to repeat, you guys have to understand why
03:19:28.140
You just said, I've seen people who are beautiful at 100.
03:19:34.640
I've already granted that there are people who are still attractive at 30, 40, 50, 60, 70.
03:19:41.300
We are comparing how you look now versus how you're going to look when you're older.
03:19:50.180
Has the American education system just completely failed you?
03:19:57.580
But you made the claim that there are attractive people at 100.
03:20:02.600
Do you think those people were more physically attractive at 100 or when they were 20 or 30?
03:20:33.840
There's people that are ugly when they're young and they grow into their...
03:20:41.260
You're just being intentionally difficult by refusing to answer the question.
03:21:00.580
You don't think her just saying thank you for your opinion is...
03:21:05.000
She said she's going to be beautiful when she's 70, 80, 90.
03:21:08.360
You can say it's deadpan, but you're being disrespectful.
03:21:10.900
I'm sorry that you have an opinion on me that is not true.
03:21:18.040
If she thinks she's going to be beautiful until she's 100, she's going to be 100 and beautiful.
03:21:22.360
You're trying to gaslight me into thinking that I won't...
03:21:25.180
You're trying to get her to change her opinion about herself and she's not going to, obviously.
03:21:32.120
See, this is what I appreciate about Rebel because she'll call it how it is.
03:21:35.400
Like, she might disagree with me on stuff, but Rebel's going to just call it how it is.
03:21:46.400
Will we want to change our face to our older face?
03:21:57.020
I wouldn't want to do it because I want to go through the process of aging because that's
03:22:01.420
character development in the time that it took me to get there.
03:22:05.460
Like, I feel like I'm going to be more attractive at 34 because I earned that.
03:22:08.420
I worked my body and I did what I needed to do.
03:22:10.580
I learned I stopped because right now I smell weed.
03:22:13.460
Like, I might stop that and that might make me more attractive and stuff.
03:22:24.140
I feel like every year of my life, I grow more into myself and I understand, like, what
03:22:40.140
Your opinion on what we're going to look like when we're older.
03:22:42.620
Because what I said was, in 10 years, I'm probably going to look less attractive.
03:22:46.640
However, if she feels she's going to be more attractive in 10, 20, 30 years.
03:23:02.980
The reality of aging, like, genuinely speaking, can you ever look at somebody who's 100 and
03:23:27.620
You look like an old person who came back together.
03:23:33.540
Because I definitely look better than I did at 14.
03:23:43.420
Because I got a comment from a client that was watching.
03:23:48.600
And he says, this guy is very disrespecting to women.
03:24:24.320
So, we're going to, Damien, start looking up the age stuff.
03:24:44.520
Okay, can somebody in the Discord do the age advance cat?
03:24:51.620
Or somebody in the Discord, put it in the research tab.
03:24:57.440
It'd be really good to have it on this panel though.
03:25:00.660
So, also, when it comes to the disrespect thing, look, the reality is, like, most women are
03:25:05.740
not used to a man ever challenging your worldview.
03:25:16.440
You never deal with a man who's disagreeing with you.
03:25:23.480
But I've never, I don't know, I've never experienced just an all yes factor.
03:25:35.560
I'll explain to you exactly why it has to do with dating.
03:25:38.860
So, do you think in order to have a reasonable assessment of the type of person you can get,
03:25:52.560
Like, for example, you said you do real estate or I forgot.
03:26:00.560
You have a piece of property you're trying to sell.
03:26:28.240
He said very clearly that the market rates it at $1 million.
03:26:32.920
So, regardless of the extenuating circumstances, the market rates it $1 million.
03:26:42.200
But, chat, you guys have to be frustrated, too.
03:26:54.120
I'm asking these questions and they want to argue, like, well, what about?
03:27:05.840
So, you're talking about the worth of the house.
03:27:08.580
So, if I believe, I believe, I think my house is worth $5 million.
03:27:12.840
But the market value, what the market says it's worth is $1 million.
03:27:21.820
But if there's a demand in the area for houses and there's not a lot of demand and that house is in a desirable location that somebody absolutely wants to be in that house, then, yes, you may have a chance at $5 million.
03:27:45.760
Perhaps there's, like, for example, like, certain properties.
03:27:48.280
You can, like, have horses on certain properties if it's over a certain acreage.
03:27:52.600
That might make you able to, like, command a higher price.
03:28:00.020
They're not paying five times the amount for it.
03:28:03.760
Maybe they'll pay $1.1 million, $1.2 million, $1.3 million.
03:28:16.940
If you make the right advertising, if you invite the stars, make the white party, say, and this coach was sleeping Leonardo DiCaprio, he lost something.
03:28:24.940
If you make the creative ideas, you can sell something very expensive.
03:28:34.760
Yes, you can give up and sell it only for $1 million.
03:28:37.080
But if you will be smart, if you will really hire the best PR agencies, they will create you the best PR, and you can sell it more.
03:28:51.640
I'm sure, you know what, it's possible that one or even all of you women here are going to marry a billionaire.
03:29:24.820
How many billionaires do you think that there are in the United States?
03:29:27.860
I'm sure you're going to tell me the statistic.
03:29:30.340
So if you want to engage with the question rather than just being obtuse the whole entire time,
03:29:34.160
how many do you think that there are in the United States?
03:29:41.080
It's a very low chance, low number, low statistic.
03:29:45.540
It's like, I don't even know what the number is, but I'm assuming it's probably under a thousand,
03:29:52.580
Who are we to say whether or not these women will marry a billionaire?
03:30:00.040
Because you guys think it's, maybe you guys think you have a really good chance.
03:30:15.000
And I'll make the bet with every single one of you.
03:30:19.160
I will make the bet with every single one of you individually.
03:30:23.060
I will give you $100,000 if any of you marry a, you'd have to prove it, a provable billionaire.
03:30:44.300
If I married a billionaire, you think give a fuck about your $100,000?
03:31:04.140
Okay, so if I draft up, I'm going to draft up a legally binding contract that you're going to sign after the show.
03:31:18.020
In fact, I think this might, I don't know if it's legally binding if I get verbal confirmation.
03:31:23.420
If you marry a billionaire within the next five years, I pay you $100,000.
03:32:25.100
Y'all, the most delusional panel we've ever had on the show.
03:32:34.720
You guys saying you're going to end up with a billionaire is like me saying I'm going to end up with,
03:32:40.880
I'm going to have a harem every single Victoria's Secret model.
03:32:44.620
I'm going to date and they're going to accept this like they can't cheat on me.
03:32:51.460
That's more likely than y'all taking five billionaires.
03:32:54.380
Dude, that's more likely that we, my dear, do you know that I can raise my billionaire?
03:33:05.020
But in five years living with me, he might pass to sleep.
03:33:07.080
She's saying stop screaming into the microphone and that's directed at you over there.
03:33:11.600
You're literally, I don't know if you're too drunk to realize, but you've been screaming
03:33:15.820
Can I just like lower your volume a little bit?
03:33:25.960
Brian, I can't believe you're doing it for free.
03:33:41.900
Has Brain and Jake been agreeing with or disagreeing with you all night?
03:33:53.680
Yeah, but I think he meant to say if you loved it, why have you argued?
03:33:57.140
Because he's saying have we been agreeing or disagreeing with them all night?
03:34:11.900
Like, I genuinely don't fully understand the question.
03:34:15.360
If you want to send another one in, maybe you could like send it.
03:34:38.620
I'm going to read a couple and give you guys some shout outs here.
03:35:07.820
We have a couple chats here coming in while he's getting that done.
03:35:16.440
Well, I'm an attorney as well and vouch for Brian's respect towards women.
03:35:22.940
Pull up pics of 20-year-old Brooke Shield versus now.
03:35:38.140
I don't think it means anything bad if you just accept it.
03:35:49.720
Stipulation, you cannot tell the hypothetical billionaire about this bet.
03:35:55.760
No marrying, especially for the purpose of winning the bet.
03:36:02.880
You can't do, oh, let me, even if you try, no billionaires are going to be like, oh, okay,
03:36:18.420
But also, most billionaires are already married.
03:36:26.880
Lucas is also my attorney, so maybe Lucas wants to draft up that, send in a TTS about
03:36:35.720
But, yeah, man, you got to put your money where your mouth is.
03:36:43.380
Billionaire probably going to marry a supermodel.
03:36:51.200
Oh, I wasn't, okay, I was going to, you asked me a question.
03:36:56.320
This whole how you're going to look, your looks thing, why we're asking about your rating
03:37:02.360
This is what I think is happening in the dating marketplace, and you see this happening in
03:37:09.800
I think women have a, related to the house thing, five million, you think you got a five
03:37:19.980
So, as a woman, if you think that you are of a certain attractiveness, that's going to
03:37:27.120
One, you're going to be going after men who you think are on your level.
03:37:31.540
But if you're actually down here, you're not going to get that guy.
03:37:37.320
And this is not the W that you guys think it is.
03:37:40.360
Women can get sexual access to guys who are more attractive than you.
03:37:50.600
That's why you sleep with a guy and you're, oh, why can't I get commitment?
03:38:02.560
One of your complaints is, I can't get a boyfriend.
03:38:04.860
So, the reason why it's really important to know where you stand and be humble and understand
03:38:13.160
your own attractiveness is if you think you deserve a certain tier, a certain quality of
03:38:24.280
And here's where I can understand why you might be confused.
03:38:27.020
Men will sleep with women that they have no interest in ever being in a relationship with
03:38:40.880
Men will sleep with women that they have no relationship interest in.
03:38:45.820
But they're like, oh, okay, well, I mean, she's giving me sex.
03:38:51.280
Or oftentimes, it'll just be a one-night stand.
03:38:53.340
But maybe you'll keep you around as a friend with benefits.
03:38:57.920
So, then what also ends up happening, you think, oh, I can sleep with this guy.
03:39:06.920
Oh, because I can sleep with this guy, I must also be an 8 or a 9 or a 10.
03:39:17.600
Your rating is the guys who will give you commitment, who will be loyal to you, who will give you a
03:39:25.420
The W for the women is not, I pulled, I can sleep with that guy, I can have sex with that guy, I can be friends with benefits with that guy, I can fuck him for three months, and then he gets whatever.
03:39:42.180
And so, the guys who are willing to give you that commitment and marriage typically aren't as attractive as the guys that you can sleep with.
03:39:49.380
So, you're used to dealing with men who are, quite frankly, outside of your league, they're more attractive than you in one way or another.
03:39:56.860
It could be looks, it could also be personality, it could also be status, it could be money.
03:40:02.360
So, you could sleep with a guy who's a millionaire, doesn't mean that that's the guy who's going to commit to you.
03:40:08.960
You could sleep with a professional athlete, you could sleep with a famous musician, I don't deny it.
03:40:16.880
And then, you're so used to dealing with these really attractive men, whether it's money, status, or looks, you think, like, you think you're settling for the guy who's here.
03:40:34.340
Now, if I were to probably gender swap you, like if I took your photos and then made y'all into men, I don't think y'all would date your male version of yourself.
03:40:45.100
I'm being for real, you wouldn't, like, if we change, like, you into a man, you'd be like, that guy's mid.
03:40:56.040
Hold on, I'm almost done, I'm almost done here.
03:41:02.000
Oh, that's an appeal to it, that's, yeah, well.
03:41:11.160
Oh, okay, so our opinions are pretty much exactly.
03:41:19.860
I actually heard a lot more that made me a little bit uncomfortable.
03:41:27.960
I can kind of point that out where I slept with somebody and I said, oh, I'm on the same level again.
03:41:35.240
Have you guys ever been, like, sleeping with a guy and you really like him and you want to get commitment from him, but he says no?
03:41:49.400
Oh, all the guys want relationship, but you don't want it.
03:41:55.580
You've never dealt with a dude who just wanted sex?
03:42:03.020
Manu wanted only sex because of this, I didn't accept them.
03:42:08.300
Manu wanted just sex because of this, I didn't accept them.
03:42:10.840
So, you're saying that all the men you've dealt with just wanted sex and not a relationship?
03:42:15.380
So, I wanted to answer because he mostly talked about me.
03:42:20.540
Maybe I'm a bit exaggerate because I just said it was many dates.
03:42:23.700
So, why I didn't like the men and why I didn't have a relationship?
03:42:26.300
Because, as I find out in the dating apps here in America, men search is not a relationship.
03:42:37.280
So, once if I'm, but I'm a very honest person and I don't play the games and I tell them
03:42:42.340
directly what they're looking for, they understand they don't want the same things.
03:42:47.760
And plus, I tell you again, that I'm from Miami.
03:42:50.480
Miami is more hot state where people are more open-minded and et cetera.
03:42:54.780
And as I told you, you didn't notice that I told you this year, last year, I don't go
03:43:01.900
to any dates because I concentrated in my career because I understood, like you said,
03:43:06.300
I need to have the right values to attract the right men.
03:43:11.920
And in dating apps, in dating sites, there is not that kind of man which I want.
03:43:17.800
Since you moved here, do you want, you've been on like 100 dates.
03:43:30.400
Because I don't want to ask my followers to watch this and many people knows me.
03:43:36.720
Have you been in a situation where you were sleeping with a man and you wanted a relationship
03:43:48.140
You said the past three years you've been in Miami, you haven't been able to find a boyfriend
03:43:55.600
You have had sex with maybe one, two or three guys.
03:44:11.400
Look, guys, I posted on my Instagram that I'm here.
03:44:14.940
I don't want people watching this and they discuss it.
03:44:17.320
This is my private life and I don't want anybody to know what I'm doing or what I don't do.
03:44:21.420
It's hard for me to make my point if you want to answer the question, but that's fine.
03:44:25.840
I said I didn't have sex with anyone in America.
03:44:52.380
I'm strong enough to wait even, I don't know, 100 years for the right man, okay?
03:45:04.840
In any case, I mean, it doesn't seem like I'm going to get a good faith answer.
03:45:22.420
At this point, this whole panel, I'm pretty sure is just intentionally, like, they know if
03:45:27.380
they give me the, kind of, the answer, then they're just going to intentionally lie and
03:45:34.440
Like, I've literally had you on the show before.
03:45:47.540
I've been with one person ever in my life that was like, oh, I love you.
03:45:54.360
And then I come around and they're like, no, I don't want to be with you.
03:45:56.740
And that's, that's something that happened to me.
03:46:04.300
Why did you have to segregate me out to get something that was dry?
03:46:10.720
I said no because at the, at the original part of it, it was yes for them.
03:46:15.900
But as soon as I got into it and I started acting the way that I act, it was no, but
03:46:23.560
Bro, we told you to stop drinking and you've just like...
03:46:31.960
Yeah, I know you went, yeah, you drank a bunch more.
03:46:37.900
You're literally, is she slurring her words a little bit?
03:46:56.300
Right, because they're just doing the most, right?
03:47:08.740
I think we need to do maybe some seat adjustments here.
03:47:16.160
I'm gonna fucking get on my ass about some shit that's not even true, or no?
03:47:39.080
Even though I can't find the last three of my episodes on whatever.
03:48:08.240
That's not what I'm talking about, obviously, Brian.
03:48:18.900
That's what you said from the jump when I was only drinking the first seltzer.
03:48:23.000
So you're honestly just trying to make me seem crazy.
03:48:28.420
I know that you're going to get views off of it.
03:48:31.200
You're actually really killing the quality of the show.
03:48:35.180
What's happening is that you're killing the quality of the show.
03:48:42.120
I didn't fucking do anything that was rude to you.
03:48:45.860
We asked you to stop drinking, and you kept drinking, and now...
03:48:54.560
You're killing the quality of the show, honestly.
03:48:59.420
Because when he told me, oh, you're probably drinking too much, I was already out of self-esteem.
03:49:03.600
If you're getting drunk, if you're slurring your words, if you're talking over everybody,
03:49:07.720
if you're talking over everybody, and if you're just being completely obnoxious, I know you've
03:49:16.160
got a real attitude, and you're used to talking to people like this, but when you're actually
03:49:19.540
on a panel, you're fucking weird, and I don't want to hear you out.
03:49:33.060
I'm so sorry that I combined those words together.
03:49:51.700
Nigga, you're literally trying to make a word that's not accurate.
03:50:02.780
By the way, what's interesting is women can never call out other women when it's clear
03:50:28.680
So when I interrupted, was it me or was it them?
03:50:31.900
You're doing that thing that drunk people do when they get too close and you can smell
03:50:40.040
She can smell your breath, your alcohol breath and everything.
03:50:44.260
No, the thing that's making me uncomfortable is the fact that you guys just won't get the
03:50:51.020
If somebody's killing the quality of the show and you look...
03:50:57.680
And it's clearly we've got a drunk idiot on the panel who won't shut up.
03:51:13.600
You just called me every name under the sun in one sentence and you were saying how impressed you
03:51:59.060
Otherwise, we'll just go in circles about this.
03:52:25.680
It's like that one liability friend who just gets dragged out of the club.
03:52:43.440
No, it's not about we delusional because of what we think about ourselves.
03:52:49.620
Even if they were a five, they'd probably admit it, though.
03:52:53.960
Oh, I'll just, while she's gone, guys, in the title of the video,
03:52:57.600
just because you guys don't think it's like clickbait or anything,
03:53:01.820
So, the big announcement, but unfortunately, I do have to report,
03:53:12.700
At least, I think some of you might be disappointed in this,
03:53:23.100
but starting in March, we're just going to do Sunday shows.
03:53:26.020
I know you guys, let me give you guys a reason, a couple reasons.
03:53:29.440
One, it's just, you know, I didn't really get into this,
03:53:33.840
but like booking for the show is a major headache.
03:53:41.720
So, when I say flakes, let me start from most recent to latest.
03:53:50.160
And then the, like, 72 hours, three to four days leading up to the show
03:53:55.660
had 12, sorry, excuse me, four other girls cancel.
03:54:01.820
So, you're a dickhead and you make people sit in the fucking shower
03:54:45.120
It's the fact that you guys have removed every single other comment,
03:54:50.080
but that one we left up there for quite a while.
03:54:54.300
The one that said that that's why they would never date a black woman.
03:55:02.620
All right, so I'll finish up the kind of the announcement here.
03:55:09.960
We might bump back up, but just for a period of time,
03:55:12.260
there's a couple things that need to be worked out behind the scenes,
03:55:26.080
This specific show tonight exemplifies that more than anything,
03:55:31.240
and so because of this, you know, some of you guys know,
03:55:37.900
like, I've got, like, back injury, back pain issues.
03:55:47.880
I don't think I could do another year doing two shows a week.
03:55:55.160
once, like, things get leveled out with some of the things
03:55:58.840
when it comes to business, personal health stuff,
03:56:05.120
so we are going down to just Sunday shows starting in March,
03:56:08.100
but the rest of February, we got Sunday, Tuesday.
03:56:11.760
I know it's maybe not the announcement you guys wanted to hear,
03:56:14.760
but I think the qualities of the show will be a little better,
03:56:24.160
Like, I don't know, the viewers, you guys don't know,
03:56:25.700
I got ice packs and stuff, I ice my back and whatnot,
03:56:27.920
so I got some existing, like, back pain issues,
03:56:46.060
The drama thing, do we get into the drama thing?
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graffito tagged donated 200 how would you feel if a guy was so rich by his mid-30s that he
04:53:05.100
never had to work again so he chooses to be on permanent vacation for the rest of his life
04:53:10.580
never returning to the workforce yo tag thank you again sorry for the delay on this
04:53:18.480
who cares you do you boo okay okay he's 35 rich never wants to work again cool with it yes or no
04:53:26.540
yeah that's fine yes of course okay are you able to scoot your mic a little more that way and scoot it to the edge of the table i need you to center up your mic so it's kind of like center with you uh what about you
04:53:36.940
he's living his life why would i care okay yeah take me on vacation let's go
04:53:45.300
what question was that genuinely uh congratulations congrats yeah yep okay
04:53:51.200
jason castle donated 200 just because you are all 304s doesn't mean all women are 304s
04:54:02.980
brian has a much higher chance of getting a virgin than you delusional women getting a billionaire
04:54:09.860
oh we were talking about body counts i guess um just show of hands who who here thinks uh body count matters
04:54:18.640
body count matters to some degree yeah let's uh let's go around the table
04:54:26.340
like that and whatever like that girl who smashed 100 men in a day
04:54:31.460
i'm like no like nah that matters like it matters how old you is like i ain't gonna lie
04:54:37.540
because like i'm body positive but you i'm not smashing the girl that smashed 100 men in a day i'm not doing that
04:54:43.520
so it matters on some level yeah sure oh wrath by the way i apologize for some reason my stream labs isn't showing this
04:54:50.340
you gifted i believe 20 20 subs about 20 minutes ago but it for some reason it bugged out but wrath psa
04:54:58.420
thank you for the gifted subs on twitch uh so going i guess going around the table
04:55:14.660
were you oh my god why does it matter that's how you respond i gotta add it up
04:55:19.620
well for me it's at least um wait body count is that like babies coming out of you
04:55:31.060
body count is uh how many men you've had carnal knowledge with um that's the first carnal knowledge
04:55:36.740
of we doing men and women we doing everybody men and women uh break it break it down break it down
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okay go ahead y'all go ahead she's you got a list do you who has a list i'm not gonna ask to see it
04:55:49.940
but just who has a list in their phone i don't know of the bodies anybody okay all right uh body count
04:55:57.220
no i can't say jeez but i i thought it's wrong for like men to care about body count and they're
04:56:02.260
insecure if they do care about it so like body count it doesn't matter it doesn't matter that's
04:56:06.820
what i'm trying to say like man or woman it doesn't matter are you insecure about it
04:56:12.180
my part i'm not no oh then i mean if you're not insecure about it then shouldn't you just be okay
04:56:18.180
revealing it i don't know well no that's private that's my private like sure you don't have to you
04:56:23.540
don't have to reveal that's fine do you want to um how about instead of an actual number do you want
04:56:27.540
to do a range oh range yeah oh man we'd like to offer up a range okay less than 10.
04:56:32.660
okay what about you less than five less than five you can give us the actual number you can give a range but
04:56:43.540
actual number is preferable no range under 10. okay i would disclose this information to a significant
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other probably not to y'all just on the internet range no thank you
04:57:05.220
um i don't really care i feel like i think i have four guys and like three girls
04:57:10.900
oh i mean you were like hold on let me no because i have to remember i have to make sure like what
04:57:15.380
really counts like is fooling around like are we talking counting penetration you had to count for
04:57:20.100
seven you had i did have to count because you won't be remembering all the time by three and
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that's the real number for all of you um all right hold on we got this graffito tagged donated two
04:57:33.140
hundred dollars really the lack of drive isn't to turn off shouldn't a man work in some capacity
04:57:40.500
even if he is rich enough to not need to work shouldn't he do something productive not sit on his
04:57:46.340
love until he dies working and being productive is different you could still build stuff and then
04:57:53.220
do what you do and not work so for sure sure well if he's doing what he loves it's not work technically
04:58:01.940
right you know okay whatever hobby he might have or something sure sure um i mean graffito i don't know
04:58:10.900
i i wonder if uh i mean if you worked so hard though earlier in life to the point that you could
04:58:16.900
retire at 35 or whatever i think you said mid-30s i mean it's kind of like like let's say somebody works
04:58:24.500
uh till they're 65 but they're just doing like a nine-to-five job and versus like a guy who just
04:58:31.540
grinds in like 20s early 30s and he makes the same amount of money he would have otherwise made or maybe
04:58:39.060
even more by grinding and then he's like well i made i made enough money to retire i i don't know
04:58:47.140
if it's a lack of drive you know necessarily but i think there are there are definitely some men who
04:58:52.900
just even if they've i mean like you gotta look at people who make who have more than like five mil
04:58:58.420
up to billionaires they're good they could ellen elon musk he could be done like he doesn't he doesn't
04:59:05.460
need a he's got like millennia's of is probably more i'm probably downgrading it of uh generational
04:59:14.740
wealth but he's got that drive he wants a trillion he's not happy with being a billionaire he wants to
04:59:22.100
be a trillion so uh graffito thank you for that question though really appreciate it guys graffito's
04:59:26.260
a long-time supporter i want you guys to put some w's in the chat for graffito tagged he's a uh big
04:59:31.620
supporter of the show so i really appreciate your question man all right we do have uh let's see
04:59:38.500
rebel can you read this one man i was reading this one already i don't even want oh this looks
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daughters of eve you believe the lie you will not be equal to a man eve wanted the same she did us no
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favors you choose according to a fallen nature jesus christ the living word who oh my god this is
05:00:00.900
terrible who is all the father is expressed perfectly is our only hope
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yo john got pastors in the chat john i really appreciate your super chat man guys w's in the
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chat for john for his very generous super chat john uh thank you so much man l's in the chat
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why wait why l in the chat are you like are you like anti-religion or something or
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what i'm anti-misogyny you tell me i will never be equal to a man what okay all right uh a man that
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finds a woman is a good thing it says that in the bible too mr religious john oh it says that
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theological debate coming we would men wouldn't be here without no woman what do you mean
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all right uh okay we're gonna get back into the questionnaire here uh let's see
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let's see let's see if there's any disagreements on two i don't think so no we have a couple
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excuse me couple disagreements on three women should pay 50 50 on first dates rebel you disagree
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that's it for those you three here uh you think men should pay for first dates whoever asks who out
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that's all because i put disagree but it's whoever who has who out your position i think the man should
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pay your position man should pay man should pay uh and the other girls here maybe that's not your
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position but are you okay with it being their position like you don't think it's sexist like
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you think no they can have that opinion like nothing wrong with it i think a man should pay but if he
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wants to go 50 50 i would understand that it's the first day we just met so they don't know what's up
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um definitely could you cool you cool with their position yeah cool with their position okay um
05:01:48.580
i want to explore a couple shoulds right so as long as you guys are okay with uh men should pay
05:01:55.140
uh are you guys fine with like the following should statement should women cook and clean yes
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i think it's more so a shared responsibility i don't mind cooking and cleaning but
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i'm not a maid should people i think it's like no cooking like in the context of a relationship she
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should do the cooking and the cleaning in the same way that you guys say oh so is he paying all the
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bills sure because i feel like that's a job well yeah yeah he's paying all the bills how about that
05:02:26.420
clean up the house okay fine uh how about this women should be virgins
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or women should have low body counts are you guys fine with that should statement too well men should
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do then no should i mean i actually don't disagree like who said women should be a virgin
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who said that i just did as a question though so no no answer don't nobody agree with that okay
05:02:51.060
all right but on the inverse you would say then that women should have sex with multiple men before
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marriage no but who's saying should like what who's saying what's right and wrong yeah but it's all
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it's talking in an idealistic sense no no women should ideals are these should women should be
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whatever they want to be do you think that there is an ideal
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it's like everybody you know everybody should drink a lot of water should you know what i'm saying
05:03:25.220
certain things i don't know no ideal there's no ideal
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should men have a low body count so yes yes okay do you think that women should as well then
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if that's your opinion that's your opinion honestly i think everybody can answer a question
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i think everybody want different things and everybody deserve different things so one time
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in my life i dreamed to be virgin and find a virgin man and guess what has happened and we was dating
05:04:04.260
together two years it was very very good relationship and yes when i met him he was very simple guy
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after two years living with me he um become much more rich he changed your car like he become very
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good so every dreams come true but now i don't dream to have a virgin so it's like different i had
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that time of my life now it's another uh question here for rebel um you said that in here's the statement
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a man dating a transgender woman is not straight you disagree with the statement um why is that trans woman is
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a woman so it's a trans woman if you're if you're trans partner and they look like a woman you're
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attracted to that you know what i'm saying then yeah well i mean i agree that men can be tricked
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um but do you are transgender women female yeah i guess well just for the sake of this conversation
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i'm gonna go ahead and grant that this isn't actually my position but that transgender women are women
05:05:06.340
but so we're talking about gender but now i'm talking about sex are transgender women female
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female like a woman and females do different things yeah right so like female means you have a
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certain type of chromosomes you have a reproduction system and everything like born born a certain way
05:05:25.620
so i feel like trans women are women but do you think they're female sex and gender two different
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things though okay that's this thing so like i guess so are transgender women male that's such a
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hard question no they're not male either though so what i thought you meant they had certain chromosomes
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they do they do so i like they're women but they're not female so they're women but they're males
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they're they're women trans women are women because if you look at a trans woman nine times out of
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ten she's the baddest bitch you've ever seen you know what i'm saying the things that take to be
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a woman but if you're going off of excuse me look hey yo y'all ain't seen no pretty trans women you
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just said nine times out of the ten of the baddest nine times out of ten because they have to do more
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than the regular women females are typically the baddest they're bad like i'm look they have to do more
05:06:19.380
to compensate for you guys's doubt honestly as a serious question though as women you guys are all
05:06:25.220
women right how does it make you feel to hear that sort of thing where you say that dudes who dress up
05:06:31.060
as women are the most beautiful women would you agree with that i would hate that and i hate when
05:06:37.460
they put a man a transgender man like like like they're still a man and they put them on like a
05:06:45.140
fashion magazine and like as a woman or like they they um like woman of the year yeah like dude you're
05:06:52.100
not a woman you're a dude you know yeah lipstick weights um so is everybody here transphobic
05:07:01.220
i just feel like it's insulting to say that a man could be a woman that's like black face
05:07:05.940
like you're dressing up as a woman so now you're a woman all of a sudden exactly i mean kelly
05:07:10.180
yeah to be honest though she's she's exactly right it's a it's a perfect logical um logical
05:07:15.300
analogy there you women should be offended i just don't subscribe to that but jake actually made like
05:07:21.860
a really good point like the the comment you said about how like trans women are some of the baddest
05:07:28.020
what was the baddest they look the baddest or whatever i'm not saying that but they just they
05:07:33.220
look like they make sure they look good but you ladies gotta keep a little something for yourself like
05:07:38.340
like you can't give like hottest woman to a trans like men are better than y'all at being hot come
05:07:47.620
on you can't not necessarily that's that's not what i meant when i said that guys that's not what i
05:07:52.500
mean men we men yo the patriarchy wins again we men are are better at being hot women right we're
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better in everything bro we're better than we're we're beating you guys at the boxing in the women's
05:08:03.620
olympics women's weight lifting women's beauty contests yo yo guys w's in the chat for patriarchy
05:08:11.220
men being better at being hot women than than women just w's in the chat i don't know that's kind
05:08:17.860
of crazy but okay um but like so how about really quick on this but i'm a little confused here because
05:08:24.580
you said you did make a differentiation between gender and sex right but so i'm but then i'm asking
05:08:30.260
like is a transgender woman female or is she male she's a woman yeah but she's a woman i a hundred
05:08:37.140
percent agree with you is she male or female she's a woman no you're no no you're 100 she's a woman but
05:08:44.020
is she female or male she would be male legally legally right now in this country change the definition of
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woman what do you mean like since when he's granting it for the sake of for the sake of debate this is
05:08:57.300
crazy and then it's like what do you say about somebody that has both because there's people with
05:09:00.820
multiple things down there so what do you what what is a you said it's different female and woman what
05:09:05.860
what is a woman and what is a female a woman is someone who takes on the attributes of femininity and
05:09:14.420
identifies as being a woman so if i wore a dress and wore this wig and some lipstick and i said
05:09:19.140
to you i'm a woman you would believe me no you'd be a man in a wig in a dress on if you were consistent
05:09:26.260
if you were consistent that's what you really want to do and you were making a transition but
05:09:29.380
tomorrow if i came to you and i said look like that that chat we had last night made me realize
05:09:32.820
a few things about myself and i and i had the wig on and i said i'm a woman you would you would grant
05:09:37.700
me that status i i would if you really meant it yeah hell yeah how do you know how can you ascertain
05:09:43.220
if i mean it or not it's we'll see what you do if you're consistent or not okay what about
05:09:47.780
this how about if i said to you if i came to you in tomorrow and then six months later as well and
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i've been doing it the whole time but i said look rebel truth is it just really turns me on if i'm
05:09:57.780
if i'm dressing like a woman you just sound like a drag queen no no but if i said that to you and i
05:10:02.260
said look i don't it's it's just that it really turns me on to like someone's gonna clip this
05:10:08.180
if i hit clip it and chip it if so if i said that to you and i was like look the truth is that
05:10:15.460
that's that's just how i feel and it just gets me off like it turns you on dressing as a woman
05:10:19.540
yeah that's what it is yeah would you just would you say that i'm a woman no you're a jack you're
05:10:23.700
a drag queen you you just want to do this or you're some type of right so you're trying to ascertain
05:10:29.060
motive yeah well what it's actually called is it's a it's a it's a condition called autogynophilia
05:10:36.180
and it's actually a large no i don't know how much the portion but a lot of men who dress up like
05:10:41.060
women it's because it turns them on what's that movie brian where the guy dresses up like the
05:10:45.220
woman and he's got autogynophilia and he has the person in the hole hannibal lectern oh um i did
05:10:49.940
not know silence of the lambs put the lotion in the basket yeah so that dude has autogynophilia
05:10:56.820
and he dresses yeah i've never heard of that like there was a case of a guy in australia his name's
05:11:03.060
lee something or other and he was a football player and then um he got caught one night in like the
05:11:09.540
roughest part of melbourne dressing like a woman with and he had all this like meth on him and
05:11:13.940
stuff he'd been smoking meth for days and uh came out that like he used to cross dress for like a
05:11:18.820
sexual fetish and then like even after everything after all of this drama of him being caught with
05:11:24.180
these drugs and doing these weird things he just came out and goes you know what guys i'm trans and
05:11:28.340
then literally a few months later he was on the cover of woman's weekly it dressed like a woman and uh
05:11:34.180
they were like all celebrating him so that's like sort of the that when you when you distort what
05:11:39.700
a woman is like that and then in this conversation it's kind of the conclusion of it is that if you're
05:11:45.140
going to be tolerant you kind of have to be tolerant all the way with it there is there is nuances to
05:11:50.180
it i feel like some people take advantage of people's open-mindedness and like i'm not really
05:11:55.220
trans i just like to dress up and they don't identify correctly but i feel like there is some people
05:11:59.460
that truly feel that they were born in the wrong body and we should make space for them for that
05:12:04.340
you're not gay for being attracted to somebody that presents themselves as feminine you're only
05:12:09.380
gay if you like do you think do you think that those people need help
05:12:15.540
dang you like that yeah that's something you need to talk through i don't know because me personally
05:12:22.580
sometimes i wake up feeling i'm the man and i feel like i'm the girl i'm that too i feel like i'm
05:12:26.900
that nigga i'm that bitch too and i feel like that too that's me personally being androgynous and
05:12:31.700
stuff i feel like i'm both sometimes not saying i don't i don't claim to be non-binary what does it
05:12:37.620
feel like to be a man if you say you feel like a man sometimes it feels it feels dominant it feels
05:12:43.940
like you're in control it feels like you're taking care of the other people around you like i have just
05:12:48.900
a mom and a sister that's all i have to live with so i have i you know take care to make sure they're
05:12:53.620
good like you know i'm saying provide financially for the people around me it feels it's indescribable
05:12:59.540
but i'm describing it like well i think it's interesting because what you're describing right
05:13:03.060
now is definitely a masculine characteristic that would typically be associated with masculine which
05:13:07.700
is providing for people around you but still you can be a female and you can be a woman and you can
05:13:12.260
provide for people around you it wouldn't necessarily make you a man so what what about what you do is
05:13:16.500
makes you a man though i mean like so for me personally i don't identify as non-binary nothing like
05:13:21.780
that like i believe i'm a woman and stuff like that but i can understand how some people might
05:13:26.260
feel differently and stuff when i was younger i told my mom i wanted to be a boy i told her that
05:13:31.300
but i didn't know what i was talking about at that time i had to grow into it but now that i'm here now
05:13:36.260
i can see why something makes you if you felt like this a whole life like i've been tomboyage my whole
05:13:41.940
life and somebody else that's been going through all that when they realize like actually i don't like
05:13:46.740
being feminine at all i don't like being on the feminine side of it and i want to become a man
05:13:52.180
it's possible like i just feel like it's and when you say that um you think that they're transphobic
05:13:57.940
for for the beliefs what exactly do you mean by transphobic because that that term some stumble
05:14:03.540
like when people say it like that it kind of confuses me a little bit what does it mean it just means
05:14:07.620
like you're prejudiced or you don't believe like this it's the same thing as being homophobic like you
05:14:12.420
don't believe in somebody's identification like you don't believe that it's valid that's what it
05:14:18.340
is like i believe we're either born male or female and you can't change that you're born like that
05:14:24.420
genetics when you die they're not going to be like oh i'm pretty sure that he called himself a female
05:14:30.340
like no they're going to look at your bone structure and you are a man if that's what you
05:14:33.380
were born as or a woman our bones look different we're genetically different you could you could
05:14:39.060
actually dig up the bones a thousand years later and you could still tell what they were yeah yeah
05:14:44.020
i and i completely understand that but this is the point like i get that your your your think or you
05:14:49.220
from your perspective it's coming from a place of tolerance right like you think that people should
05:14:52.820
be able to actualize and they should be able to you know identify as whatever but do you see how
05:14:57.620
actually if you take a small segment of the population like people who would identify as as transgender
05:15:03.780
and you say all right everybody else has to be super duper accepting of this do you get why there's
05:15:08.340
also like that would then have a big impact on a large percentage of the population who a have
05:15:13.380
to lie about it and b women have to get like dominated in sports and women have to accept that
05:15:19.620
like these men in their bathrooms are women and then do you also accept that these people who identify
05:15:27.780
this way oftentimes need therapy or need some sort of help i said that i feel like everybody needs therapy
05:15:33.460
and there definitely should be stipulations to it you can't just overnight decide you want to be a
05:15:37.460
woman and be allowed into the woman's bathroom and stuff like that there's nuances to it and then
05:15:41.780
what about the people that have both there's literally somebody like i literally was just
05:15:46.260
watching it on the internet the other day a woman that she looks like a woman she has breasts and
05:15:50.820
everything like that but she has both like what do we what do we call them like yeah that's very rare
05:15:57.860
it's very rare but also but also even in those cases in the most extreme cases you can you can
05:16:03.940
still you still are one or the other it you might have a you might have a micropenis or you might have
05:16:09.620
like a clitoris that looks like a penis or you might even have both that has happened but nobody can ever
05:16:15.140
impregnate themselves right so you either have the reproductive uh the reproductive means of a
05:16:22.180
of a male or a female so you can never have both you know everybody got different perspectives but i
05:16:27.780
sometimes waking up feeling like like i'm that man today i'm the i'm that nigger today and you know
05:16:33.620
what i'm saying and i move as such and i dress as such and then the next day i might feel like i'm
05:16:38.100
i'm super feminine it's like it just depends so like i'm not i don't identify but donated two hundred
05:16:44.580
dollars yeah thank you man the notion that are cut up and flipped inside out pp feels just like
05:16:49.620
the real vahaa j strains incredulity i refuse to collect any first-hand data on the phenomenon though
05:16:56.660
so i'll remain unconvinced yo graffito tag thank you so much for the uh tts man you're
05:17:02.260
fucking legend tonight thank you so much dude guys w's in the chat for graffito like i said also
05:17:07.780
already longtime supporter he's a legend he's a here he's a brave and a decent man he's a
05:17:14.260
pioneer he is a pioneer yo thank you so much man and uh do really appreciate it i guess
05:17:20.020
not to linger too long on this right but again i mean i would like you acknowledge that there's
05:17:24.980
a difference between sex and gender uh is a transgender woman female or male
05:17:33.620
they're male we're talking male sex if we're talking sex yeah we're talking sex versus gender
05:17:38.820
and then so if a male and a male are having sex how could it ever be straight that's not because
05:17:45.220
what were you attracted to it's about being gay is about your attraction were you attracted to the
05:17:50.340
masculinity were you attracted to the feminine but i mean there's masculine um there's masculine
05:17:56.500
straight women right it's like if you if you f a girl in the ass is that gay no no okay it's the same
05:18:02.020
thing that like if you f a guy the trans woman has an ass the trans woman has an ass you thought
05:18:07.460
she was a pretty girl yeah but if there's a dick there or even if there's not a dick there yeah that
05:18:12.820
would be gay no you can't push that way to the side i'm not gonna get into the intricacies of how
05:18:18.980
you have sex with a trans woman but that don't it's what you were attracted to were you like
05:18:24.740
i mean when you have first seen them like you can set your boundaries you be like oh now that i know
05:18:28.580
you're trans i'm not gonna be with you you can set that boundary but if you originally were
05:18:33.780
you know what i'm saying and you get into it and you know and but if yeah if you if you like they
05:18:38.100
bamboozled you and like looked like a woman but like whether there's a penis there or not if you
05:18:43.380
know that they're trans and then you proceed to have sex with them that would not be straight that
05:18:47.300
would be gay no yes unfortunately homosexuality means being attracted to someone of the same sex
05:18:54.820
it pertains to like sex like that's why we taught we we taught we say opposite sex or same
05:19:00.340
sex attraction homosexuality is same sex attraction like for example if you saw two males you don't know
05:19:07.380
their gender identity you saw two males how about this you saw a male who was you saw a male s-ing the d
05:19:17.140
of another male you don't know the gender identity and they both they're one doesn't like look isn't
05:19:24.900
like dressing up as a woman doesn't look trans like they just look like dudes like they look like men
05:19:30.580
and you saw them s-ing the d of the of the dude like would that do you think that would be gay or
05:19:35.700
straight not as gay but wait wait one more question one more question i'll let you just one more question
05:19:39.940
would but then while the the while the the dude who's receiving the bj if he's all like if he says
05:19:48.820
um if he says oh hey hey over there rebel um i identify as a woman does it bet then in the middle
05:19:58.820
of the sex act does it then become straight yes but then also no you do it to me you do
05:20:07.140
yes but okay what if okay you got a trans woman what if they go all the way with the surgery and
05:20:12.340
get their thing cut off and they get a uh pussy that's not what he said no listen no listen i
05:20:17.460
answered that question i answered them now let me answer my question if it was if it was a trans
05:20:22.820
woman and they already and they got a coochie right in and you couldn't even is that coochie though
05:20:28.980
is that gay or not because there's no dick there w cali in the chat over here
05:20:32.580
it's like saying it's a it's a it's a fleshlight is that he voted for is a fleshlight i didn't know
05:20:38.020
you were trump voter until now w w cali in the chat for voting she's actually like guys she told
05:20:44.900
me this before the show she's like you know how there's like the blacks for trump she actually
05:20:48.500
organized that yeah it's giving that with all this transphobia here it's giving that
05:20:54.260
what she even brought she gave me this hat bro look at she gave me the she gave me this hat no we
05:20:58.020
appreciate that we appreciate that we appreciate that whatever i do um wait so um what's going on
05:21:06.420
back there is what's going on back there no if it's like no comment you're you're waiting to wash your
05:21:14.260
hands you you yeah no comment i mean you've been back there for like i 15 20 minutes or something
05:21:21.140
you are you guys coming back to the table or yeah she's going to go wash her hands now and
05:21:25.700
then she's going to come back and plead the fifth even though she was back there just yeah whatever
05:21:29.860
okay all right um and you said if it's coochie you're real like it's a fleshlight coochie
05:21:34.900
it's still okay it's still valid like it's like saying like you know what i'm saying it's still
05:21:39.300
about a coochie is a coochie right right a fleshlight is not a coochie a fleshlight is a fleshlight
05:21:44.500
all right and if anybody ever says man i got some coochie last night i'm like okay like
05:21:49.700
tell me about it he's like yeah just grab that fleshlight i'd be like brother that's uh pocket
05:21:56.180
pussy yeah that's not it have you seen blue mountain state there's a great trans woman is
05:22:03.460
um all right we're gonna get into our next thing here so we have uh rebel the statement is possible
05:22:10.740
to be sexist towards men you disagree uh let's see oh the and then we have uh no comment over here
05:22:21.700
disagrees but she's not here at the table so why don't we start with uh rebel i guess um why do you
05:22:29.140
think it is impossible or not possible to be sexist towards men oppressor and oppressants
05:22:35.620
that's it there you go oppressor okay so men so you think so you think that basically if if somebody is
05:22:43.700
going to be oppressive towards somebody and a sexism would be oppressive you think that there has to be
05:22:49.060
a power dynamic there yeah it's the power dynamic right okay so just say hypothetically um there was a
05:22:54.900
land in which it was just run by women right mate it's a full-on matriarchy um amazonia just women
05:23:03.860
right and then a man comes in and they are all whipping him and throwing dirty rotten tomatoes at
05:23:10.420
him and making him walk through the middle of the street and they're all saying shame and they're
05:23:14.580
entertaining we're doing this because you're a man and for no other reason would that be sexist
05:23:19.300
yes in the hypothetical world that you're made it up so it is possible to be sexist towards men i
05:23:25.380
mean anything's possible it's possible to fly in a in a hypothetical situation i have a different
05:23:31.700
hypothetical that might be have possibly have become more realistic uh let's say kamala harris did you
05:23:38.420
vote for kamala team harris period so let's say kamala harris let's say kamala harris it was cheated by
05:23:46.500
the way you lost that was okay let's say let's say kamala did that became president
05:23:55.460
uh would you agree that the the president of the united states is possibly the most powerful person
05:23:59.940
in the world okay yeah i guess not really but yeah sure for your argument i'll give you that okay so
05:24:08.100
let's say kamala harris uh she did not want to hire a uh a man for he was applying to be janitor
05:24:20.100
of the white house and she didn't want to hire him because he was a man she discriminated against him
05:24:27.780
because he was a man and she wanted to hire a female janitor um do you think that in this instance that
05:24:34.100
would be sexist no only because she probably had to experience you know how hard it is for her to
05:24:41.540
become president she didn't even become president so it's like for her to even get there sure for her
05:24:46.740
to even get there she was oppressed to like and she's a black woman so this is like she can't she's
05:24:52.900
actually indian so hold on okay oh and she had does she have black dad or something there's no black but
05:24:58.260
yeah anyways so colored whatever uh or i thought she's part black nope she got a black dad right
05:25:05.940
nope um candace owens did the whole thing i don't know whatever it's it's not material to the
05:25:11.620
conversation um so okay so kamal harris uh just can you define your like what is your definition of sexism
05:25:19.620
it's um discrimination on a gender from a position of power power so like i've heard this definition
05:25:28.980
of racism tell me if you agree with it so racism equals prejudice plus power is that your definition
05:25:36.900
of racism yeah and so with a similar definition of sexism uh prejudice i mean sexism prejudice plus power
05:25:44.420
and your position is is that women don't have power men do have the power therefore maybe you can be
05:25:51.060
you can uh be bigoted or discriminate towards men but you can't be sexist towards men is that fair and
05:25:57.940
the same would apply uh like between white and black dynamics like uh black people can't be uh racist
05:26:04.420
towards white people because uh white people have the power in society black people don't and so because
05:26:09.860
there's no prejudice plus power there might be prejudice but there's no power black people can't be
05:26:14.260
racist towards white people is that a fair characterization yep okay so just going back to
05:26:18.260
the sexist thing though um i think i've actually met your own definition though of i don't agree with
05:26:24.740
your definition of sexism equals prejudice plus power but i've in the example i gave i actually met your
05:26:31.380
definition so kamala harris has power and she's prejudiced towards a man she has more power than that
05:26:38.820
specific man she has more power than in fact 99.99 percent of men in the country she also has systemic
05:26:46.500
power too if we want to take it a step further because she's the leader of the executive branch
05:26:51.220
of the united states government which one the united states of america is the most powerful country in the
05:26:55.220
world the executive branch is arguably the most powerful branch of the government i mean we have
05:26:59.380
debates over that kind of not material though and then uh she's the leader of it so she has power
05:27:06.180
she has prejudice and she has systemic power i feel like it would be sexism if majority of congress
05:27:12.980
were women if majority of the people in power were women not just her president no but she's she's
05:27:18.660
the president she's the president she has power right she has prejudice she doesn't want to hire the male
05:27:24.980
white house janitor because he's male she wants to hire a female janitor how how about this uh if
05:27:32.500
donald trump didn't want to hire a woman because she's a woman would that be sexist yes okay so i'm
05:27:40.740
using i understand i'm using your own i understand no i get it i just think it's just it it comes down
05:27:46.020
to the history and how many there's majority men in office right now yeah just because we thought we
05:27:52.980
talk about kamala harris yeah i'm talking on the the individual level like how could she like who cares
05:27:57.380
about all that other stuff she has power she has systemic power she has prejudice i'm meeting your
05:28:01.940
definition can you add to the definition to make it not sexist then it's it's prejudice like it's
05:28:09.140
another word for it like it's not instead of sexist it's something else it's prejudice it's like same
05:28:12.980
thing racist it's prejudice like black i don't know because it's like i if i say that women can be
05:28:18.820
sexist to men then i i can say that black people can be racist to white people and i don't agree with
05:28:24.100
that well we can get into that but you know what i'm saying that's why that's why i can't say yeah
05:28:28.100
that's sexist because then i would be agreeing to other here's i guess here's the problem we're
05:28:32.660
encountering you gave me a definition i repeated the definition back to you you agreed with the
05:28:37.300
definition i met all the criteria for your own definition you're either going to have to concede
05:28:42.740
that it is sexism or you need to change your definition again yeah i might have to change my
05:28:47.060
definition okay let's hear the new definition let me let me look at the definition
05:28:53.140
i mean i my definition of sexism is prejudice and power but yeah i'm using your discrimination yeah
05:29:00.420
that's my that's my definition but how can if i meet all the criteria for your definition why
05:29:06.260
how would it not be sexist because like i said it's one woman like you can't the power women don't have
05:29:12.820
more power over men in general so you can't even say that but you don't think sexism so there's like
05:29:17.700
systemic sexism but you don't think sexism exists on like an individual level for example if a white
05:29:22.340
person calls a black person the n-word like we would agree that that's racist right yes right
05:29:27.300
but that's on an individual level right so like if the most powerful woman in the country if she did
05:29:33.380
when the the yeah i mean i guess i guess you could say okay vaguely like okay do you want for the uh
05:29:41.780
racist thing just before we get to the racist thing um i do need to get to her because she also
05:29:46.660
disagreed so the statement is possible to be sexist towards men uh you disagree with that why
05:30:05.860
okay so tell me what your understanding of it was
05:30:10.500
i didn't understand if you can explain it to me please
05:30:14.020
do you think it's possible to be sexist towards men
05:30:32.020
right maybe you don't have any sexist you're not sexist towards men but is it possible a woman or
05:30:45.780
mm-hmm okay and uh well why don't we go into the next thing then uh possible to be racist towards
05:30:52.180
white people rebel you disagree can i give you a uh hypothetical yes go ahead
05:30:57.620
wait before you before your analogies uh and you said uh the statement is possible to be racist
05:31:05.780
towards white people yeah do you agree or disagree um i agree a lot of people are racist
05:31:22.100
so you can be racist to white people not me personally but i've experienced it in a social setting
05:31:38.660
i honestly did not understand those questions you didn't understand the question okay all right
05:31:43.220
well then it's just for rebel then i don't think anybody else uh yeah i feel like the even we're
05:31:48.980
talking about it now i feel like the power gap between men and women are smaller than the power
05:31:54.340
gap between black people and white people now i feel like so maybe back in the day in like a
05:31:59.940
another hypothetical situation say there was a country in africa for example and they had an all
05:32:04.740
black government the country was completely run by black people and then for example say that there
05:32:09.860
was a bunch of like farmers who were white and the all black government was systemically kicking
05:32:15.540
out all of those farmers out of the country and in many cases people were killing them would that be
05:32:20.100
racist in your hypothetical situation yes well what if i told you that's exactly what's happened in
05:32:25.860
south africa right now this is it's south africa right now they're kicking out white people kicking
05:32:30.980
out all the white farmers killing them in many cases well they came and snatched us from over there sir first
05:32:37.140
so it's kind of like but these farmers didn't snatch anybody these are just farmers who are farming
05:32:43.140
their land and they're being systemically kicked out and their land is actually being appropriate
05:32:47.700
being um uh what's it called x appropriated but uh x i'm having a mental blank but their land is
05:32:56.020
basically being forcefully taken by the government because they're white is that racist is it because
05:33:03.300
they're white it's because they're white it's not happening to any blacks and it's being giving
05:33:10.740
no i feel like we looking out for us in that situation like i'm not gonna lie because just the
05:33:17.220
history of africa by itself like they not even meant to be there they gonna get sunburned
05:33:23.380
they really we really helping them out if we really be honest that we kicking them they need to go to
05:33:27.860
iceland or something where they can thrive better so you say that's completely appropriate for the all
05:33:32.900
black government to be expropriating i think that's the word the land of these white farmers that
05:33:38.020
they've been farming for generations and generations and you think that because they're looking out for
05:33:42.420
themselves then that's an okay thing to do it's not okay it's not okay i'm not gonna sit up here
05:33:47.780
i like this okay would you say that because of like the heavy race factor actually the same thing
05:33:55.060
do you think they're talking about me do you think that it's it's racist could that fall into
05:34:01.780
the category of racist i wouldn't even prejudice prejudice agi prejudice like you could say bias
05:34:08.820
you could say discriminatory so what exactly is the difference between that and let's talk about the
05:34:14.100
atlantic slave trade for example the uh americans came over and they were taking slaves from africa right
05:34:22.980
they were buying slaves from africa but they were just looking out for themselves and actually they
05:34:26.500
were giving the slaves a better life because now their ancestors are all in america right so would
05:34:31.140
you say that the same logic could apply i can't even i can't even say that because colorism runs so deep
05:34:36.260
in the world it's just like it's if if white skin was seen as as it's what's the opposite of superior
05:34:44.260
inferior inferior to us then i could say like yeah that's racism but in general speaking white skin has
05:34:51.300
holds more power so just that one little instance of prejudice is that doesn't mean that we can be
05:34:57.940
racist towards white people but what about just specifically with the example we're talking about
05:35:02.820
here with south africa and that's a material example it's not even hypothetical that's wrong and
05:35:07.060
it's prejudice it's wrong 100 but if it meets your exact definition of power because of our racism
05:35:12.980
because in south africa they have the anc the african national congress which is in charge of the
05:35:17.380
country and they actually have big festivals and rallies where they're chanting kill the boa the
05:35:23.220
boa is the white farmer and they're saying kill the white farmer kill the white farmer could that
05:35:28.180
possibly be seen as a little bit racist they're saying kill the white farmer i think i'm biased on
05:35:34.500
this situation it was illegal to be black in south africa for a very long time so it wasn't illegal to be
05:35:41.140
black but there was segregation to deal with white people and all of that to have an interracial child
05:35:45.940
that was illegal but would you say that that's racist i don't know if it's right it's just get
05:35:50.260
back it's not racist but was it but like was the apartheid that you're talking about was that racist
05:35:55.140
it was okay so then would you apply the same standard to what's happening now
05:36:00.740
it is racist it is yep so you do you think it's possible for black people to be racist to white people
05:36:07.460
it is possible how about this rebel do you like slavery is obviously a like where this sort of
05:36:13.140
conversation stems from right right say for example if there was lots of black people that hundreds of
05:36:19.940
years ago were enslaving lots of white people would that be racist yeah what if i told you that that
05:36:26.100
actually did happen there was a barbary slave trade which is northern africans that were taking europeans
05:36:31.060
and over a million of them and enslaving them every color of people were slaves at one point
05:36:35.300
but it's just talking about the system systemic ways that it is now it's not it's not favored
05:36:42.820
towards black people that's the only difference that's the thing everybody's been slaves and last
05:36:47.300
question if if just say for example africa had an economic boom just like china and india had over
05:36:53.060
the last sort of 20 years or so say globalism hits africa they start manufacturing at a massive rate
05:36:58.900
china is investing in them china is building all of this infrastructure within africa and then all of a
05:37:03.860
sudden you look into the future 30 years and africa and african countries have the highest gdp from
05:37:09.700
any continent and then but if that did happen then would you say that that would then and then and then
05:37:16.260
the africans were doing what they're doing to white people in their countries would it then be racist
05:37:20.100
things would change to that point where we had that much power yeah then it can flip and we could be the
05:37:25.060
racist ones yeah right and this type of if if the power dynamics were to flip yes but it's like everyone's
05:37:31.620
with slaves but not everyone was oppressed from the beginning for hundreds and hundreds of years
05:37:37.780
not everyone was getting ate and turned into chairs and babies getting buried into the ground
05:37:43.140
and getting their head kicked off like not every race had to happening to them actually did did happen
05:37:48.180
pretty much throughout human history basically until christian european civilization came about
05:37:53.700
the world the entire world was an it was just a series of tribal warfare and people were just killing each
05:37:59.380
other they were taking uh like war brides they were killing each other in brutal ways they would go
05:38:05.460
into the place they'd kill all of the men keep the women for brides kill all the children in in because
05:38:09.780
if they didn't kill the children then the children one day come for retribution so that was pretty much
05:38:14.420
the story of the world it's even in in the bible you've got sort of battles like this taking place
05:38:18.900
so the way that i view it is that human history is just a series of brutal brutal warfare where everybody
05:38:26.020
suffered and then christian european civilization happened which is you know um after jesus christ
05:38:32.260
and how christianity spread throughout europe and throughout the world and then this is where
05:38:37.860
modern the sort of modern morals and modern human rights come from is the christian christian are you
05:38:43.620
a christian um i was raised christian but i definitely am like just more spiritual now i would say um
05:38:50.500
um would you like and would you agree that it was actually the christian countries that abolished
05:38:56.180
slavery i guess yes yeah because it was the english william wilberforce sailing the seas trying to
05:39:05.540
trying to get all of the slave ships and then it was the americans who abolished slavery but still
05:39:10.660
nowadays today there's more slavery in the world than there has ever been in human history wow yeah all
05:39:16.900
through the middle east they use christianity to enslave people as well too so well the christian
05:39:21.300
countries actually pretty much exclusively the only ones that don't have slavery right now yeah right
05:39:27.380
now but i mean that's the evilness of christianity they used it as a way to control slaves too back
05:39:33.860
then too so it's like the argument of christianity being but could you also make the argument though
05:39:39.860
that if you look at the white world which is basically europe and then america australia uh canada
05:39:46.500
and um new zealand basically these are pretty much the only places in the world that don't they've
05:39:52.260
got a lot of sex slavery that happens in those countries so that still happens but by and large
05:39:56.820
these are the countries that don't really have too much slavery could you then make the argument that
05:40:00.260
because there's so many black people still enslaving black people in africa that that the oppression is
05:40:05.700
actually coming from black people now and even during the atlantic slave trade even during the atlantic
05:40:11.220
slave trade pushing it jake well do you know do you know how how do you think how do you think that um
05:40:16.500
how do you think that you the white people from america got slaves uh i know they well i know that
05:40:22.260
they gave them to them but there was also like guns involved and stuff too like i know they came and
05:40:27.380
snatched some people and i know they gave up the people yeah what do you mean there were a lot of
05:40:32.500
things that were said like there was gonna be a better life for them and all types of shit a lot of
05:40:35.940
people got on those boats thinking that they were going to go somewhere and be taken care of and
05:40:39.860
you know things were going to be better they didn't necessarily go because they were like oh
05:40:43.380
we're going to get whipped and we're going to go help you guys pick some cotton that wasn't why they
05:40:46.820
fucking got on the boat but we all know that the reason why they got on the boat was not by choice
05:40:51.860
they didn't willingly get on the boat the reason why they got on the boat was because they were sold
05:40:56.980
by other africans africans would would sell them into the slave trade so they would have a slave market
05:41:02.740
the europeans would come over and they would buy slaves from the africans that's how that's how it worked
05:41:07.700
so do you think that it kind of dilutes the race argument a little bit that it's like just
05:41:12.740
white people being oppressive it was actually black people selling other black people
05:41:17.780
it doesn't why would you come and before you guys made the argument when we were talking about men
05:41:22.660
and war you guys made the argument that but it's but it's other men who are creating these wars so if
05:41:28.740
it's other black people who are selling other black people into slavery wouldn't that be the same logic
05:41:33.460
that's not necessarily the same logic i feel like black people were also stolen and taken like you
05:41:41.380
said a lot a lot too i feel like we were they were and then some people were taken with guns back then
05:41:48.260
africans we had spears and shit you know what i'm saying and where there were cases of white people
05:41:53.460
coming in with this heavy heavy artillery and taking our people so it's just like and then like who kept us
05:41:59.300
you know what i'm saying like if i sell a puppy to you and you beat that puppy who oppressed that puppy
05:42:06.100
was it me selling it to you i didn't know you was gonna do all that to them so you think the people
05:42:10.260
captured all the slaves and then put them into a slave market is like selling a puppy i'm just saying
05:42:15.860
like if i sold you know what i'm saying if i sold a puppy to you and you decided to abuse it i didn't
05:42:20.740
impress that puppy you pressed the puppy but you know what i'm saying i could say i was wrong for selling
05:42:26.260
it to you but i can't say that i oppressed that puppy because you decided do you think it's okay
05:42:30.820
to sell other human beings no no i don't think it's okay to buy a human beings either or go ask for
05:42:36.980
something that's weird yeah but you know what i'm saying nobody i'm not saying that black people are
05:42:42.020
right and in all type of ways but i don't think that we're the oppressors because we sold our people
05:42:47.780
we could sell you know i'm saying do you think do you think um do you look at arab people in the
05:42:52.980
same light that you look at white people i heard people like black people do i look at black people
05:42:58.340
in the same way do you look at arab people in the same light era because you look at you look at
05:43:03.220
like white people as as uh oppressive do you look at arabs the same way that you look at white people
05:43:10.420
no no what do you mean like air is like as far as like equality or like do i see them as oppressors
05:43:16.740
arabs yeah arabs do i see them as oppressors no i don't what if i was to tell you that the arab
05:43:22.580
slave trade throughout the middle east was by far and away bigger than the uh white slave trade and
05:43:28.660
also that's still happening today to a community you can't say it was like far bigger because
05:43:33.460
regardless programming our people still went through that so you can't compare it to something that we
05:43:38.660
know nothing about we know about what happened to our people yeah that's all we get to talk about
05:43:42.500
but who are your people black people so black people were enslaved at a much larger rate by arab
05:43:48.820
people and it's still happening like you've got um a lot of slavery still happening in africa today
05:43:53.860
you've got you if you and you know it's happening these little tesla batteries and all the electric
05:43:58.660
cars you guys are driving most definitely yeah i mean so are you guys though you have to be
05:44:03.140
comfortable in that if you if you want to talk about people buying buying cars they're black people who
05:44:07.860
own teslas too okay i didn't say that there aren't yeah so i never said there aren't so you're saying
05:44:14.580
so then you're saying that you're culpable in slavery no i don't have an electric car okay but
05:44:18.420
like black people are there are black people who have electric cars so do i i'm i'm the voice for all
05:44:23.220
black people no i'm saying but you guys are all wrong but you but you said before that that uh
05:44:29.220
slavery is them you know building batteries and making electric cars if there are black people who
05:44:33.860
have batteries and electric cars then they would be oppressors right they're absolutely helping in
05:44:38.260
the problem okay so you don't think you disagree with it so wait i'm confused so you're saying
05:44:44.260
because slavery was us making batteries and stuff so at this moment to make all these batteries uh-huh
05:44:50.740
for these electric cars that's they're getting that all of that material from africa our people are
05:44:56.420
no they're in fields picking this out right dying they're in mines they're in cobalt mines and places
05:45:02.900
like this oh we're definitely complicit in our own oppression i feel like women are too in some
05:45:08.260
type of ways i feel like we allow a lot of things and like you said equality like we have to own up
05:45:13.780
to if we want equality on certain things that we have to step up in other ways i feel like that's the
05:45:18.500
same thing with black people i feel like we don't hold each other accountable as much but that goes for
05:45:22.660
every oppressed group i just think that in terms of the arab and white argument there's a specific
05:45:26.980
narrative that's painted that white people are somehow like especially bad in this in this regard
05:45:34.100
whereas actually the white christian world is other people who um abolish slavery the only ones
05:45:40.820
that abolish slavery well you know with the textbooks changing so much how can we even keep up
05:45:46.260
uh literally well i mean history is rewritten every few years we abolish slavery but did we really
05:45:51.300
did we really i mean that's a you can we can get into that point like do we still have slavery today
05:45:56.900
and i think that there is there is then we in slave masters they rounded up the slaves then we
05:46:02.340
changed them to police officers now we got state patrol now we're locking up and you know black people
05:46:07.220
are locked up at a higher rate and we're putting them i think that's the only good argument that there
05:46:11.460
actually is here and especially in terms of modern slavery that that but by the definition of slavery
05:46:16.740
which is basically just taking somebody and making them do forced labor against their consent against
05:46:22.340
their will the amount of people that are incarcerated today it technically falls under the definition
05:46:27.380
of slavery except that except for the fact that they committed crimes so that's another interesting
05:46:32.180
conversation to have but historically there there is if you wanted to look at it from damage done
05:46:38.260
the arab slave trade was far far far worse for black people than the white
05:46:42.100
slave trade no so this is just a historical fact and then we got a difference between
05:46:46.260
africans and black do you disagree that there's still african people enslaved in the middle east
05:46:51.060
today i don't know you don't know i don't know you do you do you want a final thought though that was
05:46:57.460
a good okay good enough conversation all right we have a super chat here from john hey john thank you
05:47:02.740
good to see you back in the chat rebel had to be the one to read my comment hilarious thank you
05:47:07.060
while there was no disrespect or insult yet she read it with disrespect and disdain not even hating
05:47:13.060
me but hating jesus christ and the truth excuse me reconsider or be without excuse jc is lord
05:47:22.020
um you did have a little disrespectful comment first of all you're saying we believe in a lie so you're
05:47:27.540
kind of like trying to say we're stupid and then two you're saying that women will never be equal to
05:47:32.500
men i find that to be offensive so that's why i read it like that like you literally said that
05:47:38.580
you find it to be false though like wouldn't we say equal are we talking about physically equal no i
05:47:45.060
can't beat you with no arm wrestle right now but that don't mean that i mean but do you think that
05:47:48.980
what you're what you're what you're actually alluding to there what you're alluding to there is the
05:47:52.340
fact that i mean i work out but like yeah you're double buy show us a double buy you know what i'm saying
05:47:58.100
but like let's be real what do we mean by equality well what you're alluding to there that you
05:48:02.020
couldn't beat us in an arm wrestle is that men uh have basically a monopoly on force which means
05:48:07.300
that women can never actually enforce their own rights so when you talk about equal it's actually
05:48:12.020
egalitarianism is impossible because women could never actually have a monopoly on force men will
05:48:18.100
always have that i feel like we could get some um weapons out and get it done but no but i just
05:48:25.460
because it's more of us than it is y'all if we think it's more women than it is men
05:48:29.140
doesn't matter i mean guns are force equalizers to some degree but there are differences when it
05:48:33.220
comes to like you know the type of guns that you can field like you know carrying it for long
05:48:37.700
distances and then in the event of like some hand-to-hand combat situation you can argue
05:48:41.860
black people are stronger than white people but white people still scooped us up so i i mean men are
05:48:46.980
stronger than women but i feel like women if we all came together because i also what you're talking about
05:48:51.140
is having guns um and if you have guns we also have guns and we're stronger and can handle the
05:48:57.460
guns better so it there's still a massive disadvantage for you guys yeah i guess but
05:49:02.900
like equality are we just saying in society are we we talking physically so you're saying because
05:49:07.620
we're not physically stronger than y'all we'll never be equal to you yeah i think you can be equal in
05:49:11.060
value as a human being oh that's what i'm talking about i think that every human being is is of equal
05:49:16.180
value intrinsically we all have a soul but um in terms of of force and in terms of being able to
05:49:23.460
you know actually exercise force women wouldn't just cannot ever be equal it's impossible we have
05:49:29.620
a super chat here from jason cassell he says rebel just admit you are a pos oh damn okay europeans
05:49:35.220
didn't invade africa and take slaves the slaves were slaves to other black people that were sold to slave
05:49:40.740
merchants i'm a piece of shit because what because i don't think that we can be racist to white people
05:49:48.180
like i don't know you're a piece of shit because you're racist like we could go back and forth about
05:49:53.220
this all day okay the slaves were slaves to other black people just so okay like two rounds don't make
05:50:00.900
it right just because i like i have a puppy if i have my puppy and i give it to you and you
05:50:06.820
fuck that puppy up that don't mean nothing we do have another one from jason he has a follow-up the
05:50:11.700
first recorded slave owner in the colonies was a black man you are not oppressed you are not being
05:50:16.260
attacked stop acting like a victim read a book do you want to respond to that
05:50:23.460
we're not so he's saying black people not oppressed
05:50:28.180
like i could really just a moment of silence for all our fallen brothers and sisters that got killed at
05:50:32.900
the hands of both police brutality and just like day-to-day racism you know what i'm saying like
05:50:39.140
we get moment moment for all of my white brothers and sisters that got killed at the hands of black
05:50:43.540
people in street violence bro that's not all right let's uh before it gets too crazy
05:50:49.300
i ain't gonna lie uh jason because i'm gonna start acting like her in a minute because she
05:50:54.740
i'm gonna start acting like oh girl that got kicked out hey you guys want to hear jokes
05:50:58.100
to lighten the mood a little bit so i i don't know if it's going to help at all i'm technically
05:51:03.220
technically technically african-american okay hold wait wait just hold it just hear me out hold on
05:51:11.540
cali give me give me a little give me a minute you want me to i was going to say with culture
05:51:16.900
no it's average just okay so then i don't believe it it doesn't work out yeah shoot um but
05:51:22.980
um okay my dad was born in north africa okay and my mom was born in america so hold on is he black
05:51:33.300
just give me a sec give me a sec so because my dad was born in africa and because my mom was born in
05:51:39.220
america on the technicality i know i'm not i'm not black i'm pale i'm too pale to be black but technically
05:51:47.700
i'm african-american because i agree my look my dad was born in africa which i'm not like black
05:51:56.020
african-american i'm technically african-american no you disagree oh you're you're on part you're on
05:52:04.500
the boat oh i did not mean i mean like you know what i mean i meant like you're on the you're on the on
05:52:12.900
the same page i don't think you're african-american what you're trying to tell us no i'm just trying
05:52:19.140
to say no i'm still white my dad was born in africa my mom was born in america
05:52:27.140
technically you're still white no i'm 100 yeah 100 but there's south africans that are white yeah it's
05:52:34.580
white africans it's white africans which come through that's the only reason i give it to you
05:52:39.380
okay all right oh oh look it's uh okay jason has another oh my god jason in the chat
05:52:45.220
hey dummy check the stats pull the stats up let's see who's more impressed we can pull the stats up
05:52:49.780
between if you want to pull the stats up on uh who's more um incarcerated like we can go into
05:52:56.420
raillining we could go into all type of like are you serious and it's black history month
05:53:01.460
are you serious y'all trying to like argue who's that's my favorite is that february
05:53:05.540
i'm saying it's black history month it was it's mlk day is it coming up or it just passed
05:53:10.420
when is when is when is um white history month man 11 months out of the year fourth of july
05:53:17.700
we need white african-american months okay because i really look i'm just saying i don't feel like us
05:53:26.180
white african-americans get enough representation you're absolutely right no and with that being
05:53:33.460
said can we talk about reparations too okay no no no it's not about race is anybody here left-handed
05:53:41.540
i've your lefty see she did both oh ambidex ambidex get out ambidextrous that's privilege
05:53:48.260
as a left-handed person i have suffered i've i've been disadvantaged in life scissors doors desks
05:54:01.220
getting all that smudge when i'm like because you know if i'm if i'm writing like you go across the
05:54:07.060
whatever you wrote oh i go home i go home i have to use extra soap i use extra soap to get that
05:54:13.300
shit off after class every day okay every day and you know what it's probably all that plastic in
05:54:21.300
there you're right you you know what just that part of me i was you know okay just that just this
05:54:29.060
part just that part right there um and uh i do think also people who have poor vision should also
05:54:36.900
get reparations because we like every year we got to spend like an extra 100 200 bucks on like
05:54:42.340
contacts and glasses like i'm trying to get his reparations that's right that's right okay good
05:54:49.620
talk uh we have jason cassell about 13 of the population more than 50 of crime that's why more
05:54:56.420
blacks are incarcerated oh jason pump the brakes there you're gonna get it or maybe black or maybe police
05:55:02.900
just hang out in in in more black places maybe because in the suburbs it's not that many police officers
05:55:12.020
there when it is and i feel like if it's a black person a white person driving on the road there's
05:55:16.660
gonna be more likely the black person is gonna get pulled over just final thought on that though right
05:55:22.100
there is a discrepancy here you know so you know how like we were talking about like sexism but like
05:55:29.220
do you think the higher incidence rate at least like you're saying that there's a higher incidence rate
05:55:34.820
of like police killings police brutality police misconduct when it comes to like uh to black people is that
05:55:41.300
that's like your position yes and this is like evidence of uh it's evidence racism yeah now there's
05:55:48.420
a really interesting other discrepancy we can look at so if you look at the discrepancy that exists
05:55:53.060
between white people and black people right there's i think it's a five time larger discrepancy in policing
05:55:59.780
if you look at between men and women so police murders police police murders police brutality police
05:56:05.780
misconduct the rate between men and women is five times greater between the rate uh between black
05:56:13.460
and white what do you think this is like evidence of sexism no i mean because he said that 50 of
05:56:20.420
crime is committed by black people so i guess you could say more crime is committed by men and that's
05:56:25.620
why they get pulled over if i can argue make that same argument okay jason castell he says yeah that's
05:56:30.500
where the crime is dummy okay jason castell deep pockets and also if you look at the unaliving rates
05:56:36.500
of the of who unalives who more black people are much more likely to unalive white people
05:56:41.860
yeah and white people are more likely to walk into school with guns like it's like but are we gonna
05:56:47.620
deny like i could just even think about right like rodney king the man was unarmed they beat him
05:56:53.140
mercilessly and they still got away with it on camera i haven't seen too many instances i haven't
05:56:59.700
seen too many instances maybe they just don't post them of white people being unarmed or not doing
05:57:05.620
anything wrong and getting treated terribly by police like i don't maybe they just don't post it i for the
05:57:11.860
sake of time i do have to move things on okay yeah yeah but uh men are the primary victims of war
05:57:18.500
roxana you disagree with that statement why is that because there are children who are being bombed
05:57:24.580
and uh women as well so it's actually everybody suffers during war yeah i agree with you everybody
05:57:32.580
suffers but i mean if we're looking at like primary victim right so for example would you agree with me
05:57:37.060
that like if a woman is um i mean i this is the only i guess the only example i'll bring you here
05:57:44.100
if a woman gets essayed like her immediate family and maybe her boyfriend or wife like that would be
05:57:49.620
traumatic for them too right but i think we would all agree that the woman is the primary victim in
05:57:54.580
that case even if it's traumatic for her family to like know that someone they love about uh went like
05:58:00.340
had that happen to them of course so you wouldn't say that they're also the primary victim right they
05:58:06.820
could be victims in terms of like wow that's really traumatic and you love this person and that's hurtful
05:58:11.780
but we would always say that the woman is the primary victim correct yes okay but so do you want
05:58:17.540
to do you still think that because like in war yes some women there's bombings and sometimes it hits
05:58:23.460
civilians but when it comes to the military force predominated by men combat rules even more
05:58:27.780
predominated by men and then those are the people who are going to die yeah i agree with that however um
05:58:35.540
there are different levels to that like for instance there's uh a person uh a man soldier who is on the
05:58:44.180
floor and on combat like hand-to-hand combat right of course they're they're the um they're the victim
05:58:52.260
you know they're gonna be um right up front with violence and all that but however what about like
05:58:58.900
somebody flying a plane and just pressing a button who's who's suffering at who's gonna be suffering
05:59:06.500
from that attack you mean it's gonna be so like a thousand men well i mean typically i think there's
05:59:14.580
certain uh rules of engagement uh laws as it pertains to war are there civilian casualties are mistakes
05:59:22.660
made or sometimes even it's intentionally done and that's like against i think the geneva convention but
05:59:27.780
like sometimes you know a bomb misses mortar misses whatever um but most of the targets that are gonna
05:59:33.540
you know from from bombs drop from airplanes are gonna be military targets and those targets are
05:59:38.500
gonna be predominantly men so yeah some women die some women civilians die some children civilians die
05:59:44.820
even some male civilians die because not all men end up going to war but i think you would still like
05:59:50.100
us let's say there's when it comes to bombings right let's say when it comes to bombings 95 of them
05:59:55.700
are all military targets and these this is like almost 100 men and then the five percent of like
06:00:00.740
military bombings that end up hitting a building either incorrectly or it's just like you know
06:00:06.260
they're intentionally actually going after the civilians i think you would still have to come to
06:00:09.860
the conclusion that if 95 of those casualties from bombing are men i think you that's still the
06:00:16.740
primary victim of war just because there's such a discrepancy in terms of the total numbers
06:00:20.900
of casualties sure when you put it that way yes i agree um but there is always um
06:00:29.140
i think there's always a chance that you know other you know children women men civilians are
06:00:36.580
going to also get hurt yeah i agree but like how about this what about this example so like let's say
06:00:41.620
there's a war where 10 million men die in the military and then you have a million uh women who are
06:00:47.220
civilians who die and then you have a million children who would be both like 50 50 boy girls
06:00:52.820
something like that uh then you have a million children who die and then you have like uh 350
06:00:58.580
000 male civilians who die um if you have to total up the entire amount like who do you think is the
06:01:03.940
primary victim of war in the scenario i just gave of course the soldiers the men okay yeah okay all right
06:01:11.060
um i don't really have anything else on that we have uh let's see rep um let me just see if there's
06:01:18.260
anything for 15 or no oh okay so let's go to 12 women are not oppressed in the united states rebel you
06:01:25.860
disagree wait i said not oppressed uh so the statement is women are not oppressed in the usa
06:01:33.700
you disagree with the statement so you think women are oppressed in the united states you also
06:01:37.780
circled that too so your position is women are oppressed in the united states is that correct
06:01:44.660
can you define oppressed uh like heart yeah like harsh unjust or unfair treatment typically at the
06:01:52.580
hands of like the state or the government yes okay and then you said yes um i don't know if it's the
06:01:59.780
state of the government but i definitely feel like it's social i feel like the way i think it's just too
06:02:04.740
many uh double standards when it comes to women like i just feel like like the fact that when we
06:02:11.060
have a higher body count we're considered hoes and all this stuff and then i think a guy could be a hoe
06:02:17.220
yeah yeah i think it's just more of a like you know what i'm saying i think it's just like the fact
06:02:22.180
like when a man smashes he got some but when a woman smashes she gave it up i disagree you know what
06:02:30.260
i'm saying it's the it's the little the nuances there like it's just uh it it makes me sick to
06:02:37.380
my stomach like it it's just like too many double standards that's the only reason like i don't know
06:02:41.940
i feel like with sex like i only get to come once but like some of these chicks be coming like 20 times
06:02:46.660
i think that's unfair most of them don't come at all i mean some of these girls i'm telling you
06:02:53.540
right right you know oh no you've been with have you ever been with like a woman who just like
06:02:57.380
like it's it's crazy son you know what i'm talking about like she's coming like 20 times and
06:03:02.580
shit it's fucking legs twitching like crazy son it's 30 30 i'm getting tipsy now yeah you know
06:03:11.380
it's just you're right okay but um i guess i was more so looking at like i know there's social factors
06:03:17.380
that can feel unfair but more so like when it comes to oppression i'm thinking of like systemic
06:03:21.940
something like okay yeah i will say yes just because trump you got that hat over there trump
06:03:28.260
is making it so maybe if kamala was president it wouldn't be so and we would be moving towards
06:03:34.020
a progressive but with this whole oh we're gonna choose what you do with your body that simple the
06:03:41.060
abortion laws period just shows that we're oppressed like you think that trump is um he's super right
06:03:47.540
wing when it comes to abortion hell yeah do you know what his policy is then he's like is it oh
06:03:53.940
you leave it up to the state yeah that was his policy right yeah yeah i know but it's just really
06:03:58.420
his conservative cabinet his cabinet is saying that we shouldn't allow women to make their own choice
06:04:04.580
he said he does have he does have conservatives in the cabinet who are pro-life but actually trump's
06:04:09.700
position is as centrist as it gets because you guys are a constitutional republic which means you
06:04:14.980
generally are meant to leave the power up to the states you've done so less and less as your
06:04:19.300
country's evolved but you're meant to leave the power up to the states right so what trump's done
06:04:23.700
yeah you're not from here it's crazy is this a debate or a podcast i talk about politics and um
06:04:28.820
i talk about culture jake is it a debate or a podcast okay um it's uh it's a podcast where we
06:04:33.780
talk about different controversial issues and sometimes it goes into a debate why do you ask
06:04:37.700
genuine question yeah yeah okay but you've been a really good sport all night i will say
06:04:41.620
yeah i i forgot you're not even from here i forgot yeah i was like wait but not it's just like
06:04:49.300
your answer is like abortion that's like that's just okay i'm not saying abortion is right or wrong
06:04:54.340
but it's just the the choice that our government even has or men have something to say about it
06:04:59.940
is oppression you said uh women are oppressed in the united states uh why is that they just are
06:05:07.220
yeah sure uh why no comment um why i said no comment
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um why don't you want to comment because it's my freedom of speech
06:05:38.900
america um yeah it's i mean it's not even a free speech issue um it's just like if you want to comment
06:05:49.380
you can go ahead huh if i want to comment yeah i'm asking you to comment my contract did not say answer
06:05:58.180
questions um well actually your contract states if you're disruptive or sabotaging the show in some
06:06:08.180
way then you have some liability towards us so by agreeing to come on a show where there's an expectation
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i don't expect everybody to answer every single question but i think it's fair to say that the
06:06:20.900
majority of the questions posed to you you've just refused to comment so that's not a disruption
06:06:30.420
yes it is a disruption to the podcast i'm glad you voice your opinion can i ask why you came on the
06:06:36.500
podcast today yeah he asked me to be on the podcast but like personally from your own sort of
06:06:41.060
standpoint what was your actual objective of coming on of coming on do you have an objective
06:06:45.460
or uh sorry i'm here for a good time you asked me to be on a podcast i didn't ask you to be anything
06:06:50.580
but i thought it was gonna be a funny podcast i mean it's okay she thought it was gonna be funny
06:06:54.820
but i mean we reached out to you initially actually i think or maybe you reached out to us i'll remember
06:06:59.860
the you reached out to me yeah but then we didn't hear from you for months and then you out of the
06:07:03.620
blue was like oh i'll come on the show so i mean regardless of who reached out to who it's kind
06:07:09.300
of irrelevant you have to come on and act in good faith now i know that you've intentionally been
06:07:14.980
bad faith by you admitting oh it's not in the contract therefore i can do like malicious
06:07:20.020
malicious compliance i don't know if you know what malicious compliance is i'm actively complying
06:07:25.860
and you're literally not engaging in the conversation you're literally you've acted like you're uh being
06:07:30.580
in like a murder interrogation and you've you've committed the murder your your
06:07:35.060
perspective of me perspective your perception of me has nothing that works too yeah yeah that's
06:07:41.540
cool so um why did you cite to the contract you signed you do realize like even if something isn't
06:07:50.340
in a contract and maybe a lawyer if there's any lawyers in the chat they can back me up there's an
06:07:54.580
expectation that the parties to a contract conduct themselves in good faith so even if in the contract
06:08:00.660
it says like for example i'm trying let me think of maybe somebody in the chat can think of an example
06:08:06.820
but i do wonder if any lawyers in the chat want to weigh in on like okay you've agreed to come on the
06:08:11.140
podcast um like there's a good faith um expectation that you're going to contribute you're you've been
06:08:22.260
refusing like most of the questions so it's just bad faith you should play the crickets please play it
06:08:40.740
any lawyers in the chat um have thoughts on this i mean this breach of contract it's just like
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you're just you're obviously trolling at this point and you're just it's not a troll i don't
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i don't care what it is um obviously not yeah uh i mean i think because you came in as friends you
06:09:04.820
guys like came in oh okay we're gonna just be really disruptive and just like try to mess with
06:09:08.980
the podcast and stuff i mean you came to be disruptive refusing to engage in the conversation
06:09:15.220
kind of like giving these like passive aggressive troll answers that is disruptive it's a bit of
06:09:19.700
sabotage there is actually a segment in the contract related to that um so i don't know what to tell you
06:09:26.100
um now that i've established my legal position because you've made it a legal thing now uh do you wish
06:09:32.180
to in good faith engage in the conversation yes okay how are women oppressed in the united states
06:09:40.740
i do not have to answer that question it does not mean i'm not engaging in the conversation that
06:09:49.700
that's it's quite literally you nodding and it's not just one time you've done this i believe you've
06:09:55.220
done this repeatedly throughout the course of the show so this isn't a particularly divisive issue this
06:10:02.740
is like would be a mainstream like conversation you might have in like a class in college um thank you i
06:10:09.220
i am currently still learning i mean i can she thinks how are you keeping a straight face right
06:10:16.100
now bro i mean you're in breach of contract um i don't know what else to tell you um so you can
06:10:22.740
either engage or yeah i thought this was about dating have you guys never watched the podcast
06:10:32.820
who cares no you never watched it so you don't research things that you're about to do that
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you're about to go into i do whose fault is that if you don't research what you're about to go into
06:10:41.300
we talk about these things all the time right so yeah i mean you're like it's on you but yeah anyways
06:10:50.740
abortion that's how we're oppressed that was my stance that's it um and then like with the pay gap
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we always said that pay gap but like i don't know if the statistics on the pay gap is true no
06:11:09.220
more like are we getting paid less i don't know i don't know no more i feel like if you do the same
06:11:13.140
job you should get paid the same and um but nobody should be making choices for us and just because of
06:11:18.980
the strong conservative i know trump said it's up to the state but i know his cabinet and he has
06:11:23.940
like an all confederate oh my bad conservative congress right now who is saying that it's pro-life
06:11:31.060
we don't have no choice or say in it that's the only reason he lost a lot of voters this time
06:11:35.540
around because of his stance on abortion wasn't he did wasn't far enough to the right as he should
06:11:40.260
no no it wasn't far enough to the right oh it wasn't far enough yeah yeah really like a lot of
06:11:44.820
you know catholics and in the country and conservatives were really really lobbying
06:11:48.980
for trump to do a heartbeat bill but he didn't and he lost a lot of voters for that reason
06:11:56.180
so if you if you look at his um if you look at his policies particularly with abortion he's actually
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pretty progressive unfortunately yeah i think maybe his first term because he was so pro-life i
06:12:06.100
remember before him saying some pro-life out of shape in rhetoric in rhetoric yeah he is but like
06:12:12.100
kind of he kind of is he's more pragmatic because i remember during a debate he said he was
06:12:15.860
going to leave it up to the state so that i mean but like that just that in general
06:12:22.900
of that responsibility because he knows the state what the state's for as in like california
06:12:28.740
and new york or they'll like a border baby so uh here let's do this so as a show of good faith
06:12:37.780
i'm going to legally advise you you're currently in breach of contract as a show of good faith though
06:12:44.900
i'd like to give you one last opportunity to actually respond your position is women are not
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oppressed in the usa you obviously have a comment because you circled it you disagree how are women
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oppressed in the united states i honestly did not understand the question and that's the honest
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truth i mean you've you've just previously you said you you already said that that is your position
06:13:12.020
you now can't walk it back i'm still learning yeah it's a troll it's a troll it's not a troll
06:13:19.380
you're more than welcome to think whatever you said the same thing all night unless you have
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literal rocks of rain then it's a troll um yeah i mean i gave you a chance now you're like shifting
06:13:34.500
it but you clearly understood i i'm suspecting the other ones that you circled you actually do have
06:13:40.020
positions on them but you're just refusing to engage you're in breach um i do have to just kick
06:13:45.060
you at this point so i'm just politely going to ask you if you could just get out and leave
06:13:50.180
why are you so offended i'm literally just being honest i'm so sorry that i'm nonchalant
06:13:55.700
i mean listen it's pretty clear that you're trolling or you're it's the end of the podcast
06:14:02.180
you obviously don't want to pay me up front uh you'll still get paid but you're gonna get docked
06:14:08.740
just because we're gonna like you're in breach i'll still give you a payment but you got to get out
06:14:12.900
okay cool another one bites the dust wow that's three oh whoops uh yeah you can't stay here though
06:14:27.860
yeah you gotta leave you can you're you gotta leave we don't even do that in person so you gotta leave
06:14:42.740
literally didn't say that yeah pull it up all right yeah we pay via venmo and cash app you
06:14:54.500
gotta leave though we're not dealing with this now you gotta leave perfect sounds good
06:15:10.900
anyways kelly why did you vote for donald trump what was what really what swayed you this year
06:15:25.220
tell me your funniest dating story go on you tell me your funniest story let's go on 100
06:15:32.260
come on ukraine tell us your favorite dating story no one american ukrainian which one you want
06:15:39.220
slava ukraine anyways tell us your favorite your favorite dating story the one that you tell the
06:15:44.580
girls something funny go there are many i need to i need to know more clear topic someone the worst
06:15:53.060
date you've ever been on go okay one time one man invited me to his
06:15:59.300
luxury luxury house he was billionaire and he showed me he has a cinema he no it's a funny story
06:16:08.420
and and he tell me let's have a dinner on my boat i say okay but he said he tell me before the boat
06:16:15.940
let's watch the rally it's really yes the car racing yeah yes i was so happy wow he has a cinema
06:16:23.540
so we had a drink and we started watching the rally and we speaking very nice and then
06:16:29.060
the rally is starting to moving like and then i continue to speak then he was so nice to me and
06:16:34.900
then when rally started he said shut up why you speak to me he was like crazy i was thinking like
06:16:40.100
what what's wrong okay i i just for a couple of minutes like i didn't understand why he's screaming
06:16:47.140
we continue watching the rally he after um you know every five minutes there is the break so when was the
06:16:53.860
break he he started again nicely to me oh they want more champagne no no no like nothing happened
06:16:59.220
then i think maybe i'm crazy or what okay we continue watching the rally and then i speak something
06:17:03.940
again he again starts screaming like he's a control freak completely understand if i'm ever watching
06:17:09.700
the football and then a woman comes into the room i should get the out right now get out and that's
06:17:15.380
half time i'm like hey baby how are you kidding and then you're nice to them but then if they come
06:17:19.780
and stand in front of the t-box move so this is normal this is completely normal completely normal
06:17:26.100
no he was control freak then we go on the board oh my god no that is a strange story that is
06:17:31.620
the most funny in the end um we're supposed to have a dinner and then he tell me do you see that
06:17:40.260
doors there is a pantry room yes pantry that was incorrect so he tell me you have a five minutes to
06:17:46.180
grab whatever you want in that room so there was food in the pantry he told me you can find something
06:17:54.420
there so you know i was thinking maybe he was watching too much he was feeding you maybe he was
06:17:58.660
watching too much tv like chef master chef or cooking shows you know but i was so hungry because he
06:18:05.380
gave me all the time only champagne so so i had the five minutes i grabbed something really it was very
06:18:10.580
crazy freak so i mean not all the rich man is good they can be very crazy he's wanted to watch the
06:18:17.540
racing for the sense good story um let's see here uh so that's your friend right yes you've fallen off
06:18:32.020
that chair yeah two for two i don't know if she was like it was an axe but that girl is like actually
06:18:38.740
creepy i'm not gonna lie yeah i'm gonna have nightmares about her face like just there's
06:18:43.780
nothing behind the eyes nothing i mean um so that's crazy she was here but she wasn't here
06:18:52.180
you know physically she was here somewhat chat what do you think what do you think chat um bro
06:19:00.980
i don't think i saw a blink once it generally could have been a lizard person
06:19:04.020
yeah illuminati i don't know i don't think i was like those
06:19:09.060
i don't think i've actually been creeped there's maybe like one or two other times i've been creeped
06:19:12.900
out by a girl in the show and that was definitely it um whatever we saw the one where someone was um
06:19:18.980
using a stuffed raccoon so that yeah that was pretty weird and we had somebody who had who had a blood
06:19:24.580
vial in their panties and they we thought they were going to throw it at us yeah and they would talk
06:19:29.220
about doing witch magic oh my god okay that's gross yep they were telling us she was cooking up a
06:19:34.820
good spell she pulled out a blood vial out of her panties we were just we were here just oh whoa
06:19:39.300
is she pulling it out mid she pulled it out yep she wasn't a real witch because a real wish wouldn't
06:19:44.900
i did that wait where did she get this blood from from she was a show witch oh that's disgusting
06:19:49.860
oh she was oh she's yeah she was about to do some witchcraft i bet she was looking at that vampire
06:19:56.580
stuff you're talking about yeah somebody falling in love in her told you it's another bit of evidence
06:20:01.700
from my claim um all right uh callie i think this is maybe the last one we have and then we're just
06:20:09.700
gonna get things wrapped up uh rebel you say women have equal rights to men or women have equal
06:20:16.100
rights to men in the usa you disagree um how so did i put disagree on there i put disagree i circled
06:20:23.220
it oh so you think women do have equal rights to men in the united states yeah yeah i do i do i
06:20:31.140
shouldn't disagree with that that's fine then um let me look over any of the pre-show notes probably
06:20:36.100
just gonna uh are we going through the last question on that the last question what about it
06:20:43.380
about uh are we going through it oh you're asking if it's the last question no i'm saying
06:20:49.060
are we going through our last question as in the transgender individuals that one what do you mean
06:20:52.500
no our last question like the questions yeah what about it are we gonna go over it oh now you want
06:20:58.340
to speak huh like we did our other questions okay what do you want to say go ahead um here's here's her
06:21:06.260
big moment okay yeah read the question too read the question also if you have any disagreements
06:21:11.380
of the show go ahead state your disagreements here comes the big moment why on a dating podcast does
06:21:17.060
it have to be men against women and women against men why why do we always are you a feminist
06:21:25.860
i wouldn't say i'm feminist you're probably feminist your friends are probably feminist um
06:21:32.020
so that was sexist that wouldn't be sexist to assert that a woman's a feminist but um and they they
06:21:39.460
are if i what i can gather um i mean i want to go actually beyond just why is it between men versus
06:21:46.980
women why did you guys like maliciously intentionally come on the show to troll the
06:21:52.180
show to be disruptive like you guys obviously had a conversation before the show with a malicious intent
06:21:58.100
to come on and just be as disruptive as possible so you see how like calm the conversation has been
06:22:04.820
like it's been fairly respectful between us even though we disagree on certain things once your
06:22:08.740
friend over there left things got really calm this girl over here continued continued trolling
06:22:13.620
but i still you know still kind of you know just kicked her off pretty calmly wasn't a big thing
06:22:19.940
you guys came on with the intention to be disruptive and troll so i'm not really interested i'm
06:22:25.220
just gonna outright just reject your assertion because you're you and your friends were completely
06:22:30.420
bad faith the entire night what did i do but you're just sitting there like guilt by association
06:22:36.180
quite frankly you're sitting there you're not like you're not providing any like pushback or criticism
06:22:41.860
on your friend's behavior you just sit there you co-sign all their behavior it's the total sisterhood
06:22:46.900
and yeah you've also been kind of trolling too so there's that what did i do
06:22:49.940
you could say it i could hear you out but i don't even hear it yeah that's cool so when it comes to
06:23:00.980
divisiveness the con like in terms of disagreements when it comes to dating or like man women shit uh
06:23:07.700
we can have a polite conversation but when your friend is being belligerent and obnoxious
06:23:12.980
yeah that's gonna like create a lot of tension and chaos for the show so i mean like that every time
06:23:18.820
though i'm not saying just this show i'm saying the shows that you've had didn't you just say you
06:23:24.260
haven't watched it no i've been on the show so i know how it is i just don't know why like i feel
06:23:30.980
like if we were to be like okay so how can we make dating for men and women good for us both and like
06:23:38.260
collaborate on these things instead of being like why are like we against like it just seems like it's
06:23:43.540
dividing us more i mean there's a couple things here one the show is adversarial in nature i actually
06:23:50.180
don't this is not something i attempt to hide i do hope to have good faith conversations i have
06:23:55.220
my positions on things which tend to come at odds with the a lot of women not all women but a lot of
06:24:01.860
women's views on when it comes to dating uh i mean i have reasons for this i mean i could just say why
06:24:07.540
do you guys you know have all these objections to like all of men's dating positions like body count
06:24:14.100
um preferring to date women who are not promiscuous like who should pay all this stuff like you guys
06:24:19.860
have adversarial positions and so do we so there's that and then the other thing is is that this is one
06:24:25.780
podcast the jet the uh genesis of like the mindset that a lot of women have is steeped in feminism
06:24:34.020
feminism is the originator of the divide between men and women that's the genesis of the divide
06:24:40.580
between men and women and y'all are feminists and i don't have any power if you compare the power that
06:24:46.340
the feminist movement and ideology has because it's steeped in every single realm of humanity it's
06:24:52.580
steeped in the education system it's steeped in corporations it's steeped in the government it's
06:24:57.300
steeped in the media it's steeped in journalism it's steeped in the news it's steeped in the culture
06:25:03.060
and there's actually a uh almost the the gynocentric nature of society reflects this now you might say
06:25:10.500
like if you look at universities for example every single university in this country has a woman's
06:25:15.540
studies feminist studies a gender studies program these institutions systemic institutions they have
06:25:23.060
they have power they have million or billion dollar endowments every single it's in the trillions of
06:25:29.940
dollars when it comes to the power that these institutions educational institutions have
06:25:35.300
they have uh like when it comes to their endowments feminist brainwashing at the university level
06:25:42.100
and then it even goes into like high school man there the teachers are already brainwashing people
06:25:46.580
in this feminist nonsense i got one podcast my viewership is like middle very like middle of the road for
06:25:54.180
most streamers i don't have influence feminism has influence if you think i'm decisive this is a
06:26:00.020
reaction to the overreaches of feminism my podcast is combating the false narratives and the brainwashing
06:26:07.300
that feminism has inflicted upon generations upon gen generations and millions and millions of women
06:26:13.780
women have been even should even men even men have been brainwashed women have been brainwashed
06:26:19.700
by feminism this is the counterculture i'm combating you think i'm divisive i'm combating the divisive
06:26:30.260
uh rhetoric and ideology that feminism is i'm com i'm trying to bring things back to homeostasis
06:26:36.980
feminism is what's everything up if you think i'm divisive step foot in a feminist studies
06:26:41.780
class and tell me that's not divisive how you got this girl here saying that men are oppressors
06:26:46.420
and women are oppressed how's that not divisive you tell me are men the oppressors yes or no
06:26:54.740
yes ah thank you for proving my point you think men are the oppressors and women are the oppressed
06:27:00.740
how is this not divisive women are the oppressed i think men are oppressed by men as well
06:27:06.900
their sons not to cry like we were talking about earlier and that's not right yeah so do you think
06:27:12.100
women teaching jet millions upon millions maybe even every single woman in this country that men are
06:27:18.340
the oppressor class and women are the oppressed what do you teach the oppressor class tell me
06:27:23.700
to overthrow overcome and by any means necessary right right do you think that there should be
06:27:32.260
a feminist revolution no do you okay do you think you should smash the patriarchy
06:27:37.300
no you don't believe wait you're you think just to be clear you think men are these terrible
06:27:44.340
oppressors men are the oppressor class they're terrible oppress wait oppressors are good oppressors
06:27:49.460
are good or bad they're not good oh okay so men are bad then you just said no no you said that men are
06:27:58.660
the oppressor class and women are oppressed shouldn't the oppressed class have some sort of class solidarity
06:28:05.140
and try to overcome by any means necessary the oppressor class ah okay so you want a gender
06:28:12.740
war between men and women i don't i reject the oppressor oppressed dynamic but that exists between
06:28:18.900
men and women and it's actually funny this is in the this isn't my position anymore but you know what
06:28:24.020
they want the people in power who have power who have money that's class now people are people in my
06:28:29.860
chat are going to be upset by this because this is actually a left-leaning talking point but you know
06:28:34.820
there's class and then you know what the people who have the power in this country who have the
06:28:40.740
money who have the resources they want the men fighting the women the whites fighting the blacks the
06:28:46.180
gays fighting the straights so that there can't be any class solidarity when it comes to uh the have
06:28:52.580
nots and the have yachts now now that i've moved more conservative for the record now that i've moved more
06:29:01.700
conservative i reject that too but in that well i i don't reject that that's what's going on but i
06:29:07.220
reject the class uh now i have a whole nother thing because you talked about um you said that okay so
06:29:15.700
your audience is mostly what i think it's about 80 men 20 women which is literally are you trying to
06:29:25.620
like have have those women like turn like go from feminist to not or like what's your a lot of women
06:29:32.420
watch the podcast and they'll and like i've had a lot of women who've reached out to me and they've
06:29:36.180
said that they've said that it's uh changed their views on things for sure because like you said
06:29:40.260
feminism is in the water that you drink in the air that you breathe it's absolutely everywhere in our
06:29:44.180
culture and a lot of women are looking at podcasts like this and they'll watch it and they'll watch the
06:29:48.100
back and forth and sort of definitely change their mind on a lot of things on a lot of feminist positions
06:29:52.900
well that's good it's working for y'all but most of them are men and most of them love to hear how
06:29:57.940
much women are degraded actually no a lot of them are men a lot of them have been told for generations
06:30:02.820
that they're toxic and that they're useless and that the future is female and all of these sorts of
06:30:07.300
talking points and they hear a podcast like this and we can actually logically explain our positions
06:30:12.420
and yeah it keep it actually arms them with with arguments yeah okay i mean you haven't actually
06:30:18.740
logically given any arguments tonight so if you wanted to actually state your worldview in a coherent
06:30:23.860
way and influence women you should have done so that's your opinion okay i mean i i do actually
06:30:32.740
appreciate the question insofar as you came on with your friends and they trolled but at least that
06:30:41.380
at least that was a uh a question you disagree with me but i respect the what seemed to be a genuine
06:30:47.140
question um but i mean i do have to take issue with your view that men are the oppressor class
06:30:54.180
because i mean what is more divisive than saying men bad men oppressors we women we victims we
06:31:02.100
oppressed okay i'm not saying we're victims and we're oppressed on that one we are but on the question
06:31:07.140
that you have that said are we oppressed by men i put i put we're not so i don't feel like that in this
06:31:13.780
current generation so i mean i don't you're you did when i did ask you you said women are oppressed
06:31:22.580
men are oppressors i'm not going to just allow you to walk back your position now that you've now that
06:31:27.140
the position is untenable i said men and women can be oppressed by yeah but oh but you're still saying
06:31:33.300
men are the oppressor class and women oppressed too i mean yeah but i mean i that still wouldn't change
06:31:41.220
that you view the relationship between men and women as a oppressed oppressor dynamic and in my view
06:31:51.700
that's like a terrible thing to teach women and it's an awful thing to inflict upon men okay maybe
06:31:59.380
that's not what i'm saying i'm not that's what you're saying don't want see don't walk it back
06:32:03.060
you got me you gotta stand on business i mean you say you you want to walk it back because you i mean
06:32:09.780
at least from a debate perspective your position is untenable and you're not prepared to defend your
06:32:13.940
position um so i mean you can all you want feminism is divisive it's literally divisive and it's it's not
06:32:26.180
feminism is not uh a science it's literally an ideology that's been accepted into like universities
06:32:33.060
that once used to be respectful like harvard all the ivy leagues feminist every single uc every
06:32:39.460
single college in the country has a feminist studies program women's studies program i think it has really
06:32:46.900
destroyed um the family unit feminism it's designed to do so that that's actually if you go way back
06:32:55.860
into the early uh 1900s one of like the uh i think it was maybe in the 60s or 70s one of the women who
06:33:02.020
founded uh this i'm trying to remember if it was the national organization for women which was one of
06:33:06.580
the biggest women's advocacy groups what i believe wait is it that organization one of the women who was
06:33:12.900
involved with one of these organizations said that their goal is to destroy the concept of the nuclear
06:33:19.060
family there's many many quotes like that from many prominent feminists and even engels who was who
06:33:24.420
co-wrote the communist manifesto um because feminists does have a very marxist root as well he said that
06:33:30.100
the only way for women to ever be liberated is to break from the shackles of the nuclear family from
06:33:35.300
from the family and this is what fem this is in the genesis of feminine feminism this is what they
06:33:40.260
actually believed it's that the the oppressive institution is the nuclear family and in order for
06:33:45.460
women to be free they have to break out from the nuclear family and you know um during the college years
06:33:51.060
and you know in the 20s women in their 20s that is when you should be having children and having a
06:33:57.940
family not searching for um a career you know this is what i think i started um my career later in life
06:34:08.340
after i had my children and i feel a lot more satisfied than a lot of 20 year olds who are looking at their
06:34:15.940
careers at that age where the childbearing ages and um later on in life when they're ready to have
06:34:24.100
children they can't have children it's true you know so it's just destroying yeah i mean look i'll
06:34:31.860
just say what i was talking about earlier you've got the they've got people whether it's corporations
06:34:38.420
or people in power however you want to look at it they got the men fighting with the women the
06:34:43.220
blacks fighting with the whites the gays fighting with the straights whatever kind of intersection
06:34:47.700
that you want to look at they want you distracted it's all divide and conquer that's all it is
06:34:53.620
feminism as far as i know what it wasn't it like is it uh who like a cia psyop or something like
06:35:00.980
here's the here's the reality feminism is inherently anti-male inherently anti-male so like you want to know
06:35:08.740
like why men are moving away well i mean i don't know if they've always ever been like pro-feminism
06:35:14.900
but like it's clear to me when it came to this recent presidential election men want nothing to
06:35:19.780
do with democrats because y'all are anti-male like democrats are anti-male you don't speak to men at all
06:35:26.100
the right here here's the difference oh i i heard something really good the other day it was something
06:35:31.540
like this uh people on the left or democrats say men hold on hide that because they're going to be
06:35:38.100
distracted hide it i'll pull it back up later they say that uh men you don't have any problems
06:35:45.460
you are the problem that's what leftists and democrats say and the right says men you do have
06:35:51.940
problems we don't have any solutions for you so i think both parties they don't really do anything for
06:35:58.180
men but at least the right at least conservatives at least they say we recognize that you have
06:36:03.540
problems and disadvantages and you know what you want to know why donald trump is in pre is is
06:36:08.260
president because of feminism and all that that that comes with it so maybe be a little bit more
06:36:15.780
you know you know don't push men away so much that's if you want your political agenda
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like it's funny the democrats used to be like for the working uh like the working class
06:36:28.500
they're not they're not corporate overlords total corporate overlords i mean the
06:36:39.700
it's different anyways whatever i'm getting into politics fuck it can you guys admit at any point
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in time that women were oppressed by men can any point in time can y'all admit that like it depends
06:36:49.140
what you mean by oppressed it depends like were we told to inferior and whether in any type of way
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can you guys admit that i mean it depends though because like you always have to do a con a contrast
06:37:02.660
a comparison to what so for example you would probably say and correct me if i'm wrong that when women
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couldn't vote like that's oppression like women were oppressed uh they couldn't vote do you think
06:37:15.540
that's fair yeah okay during that same period of time so if we go to the 1910s do you know what happened
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in like the 1910s yeah it wasn't like depression after the run 20 i don't know what so 1914 1918 was
06:37:30.340
world war one up until that point the most brutal catastrophic war like world war so like involvement
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of major superpowers like major superpowers a bunch of countries uh 1914 1918 uh i think it's like 20
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i'm sometimes i get my world war one world war two like casualty count mixed up so men had to go to
06:37:53.620
war and literally die and world war one is like the way we do warfare now it's totally different world
06:38:00.100
war one you're in a trench for nine months your hearing's completely gone because there's shells
06:38:05.300
constant bombardment it's freezing cold you have trench foot um you've you've seen like half your
06:38:12.260
fucking squad die of either an injury a shell something like i don't think y'all understand
06:38:17.780
how fucking brutal warfare is so women couldn't vote but men had to fucking participate in the most brutal
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soul crushing thing like you think i don't think you guys even understand like go watch all quiet on the
06:38:34.100
western front you guys don't know how brutal war is so like women were oppressed men were oppressed
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i think warfare i mean you you can shake your head warfare is something that's been almost
06:38:46.420
exclusively inflicted upon men they were forced to do it because they thought that women were
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weaker too weak women are women are weaker than we're too weak to go to war so you guys have to go
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that's not our fault yeah but some 18 year old boy who like doesn't know shit about anything
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and he has zero power whatsoever he's gonna go get sent to like i don't know the freaking ardenn
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forest and just go get like get like a million bullet holes from some like german like i'm just
06:39:13.380
confused like how is that like so i just don't think about if we think about just outside of american
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culture how in muslim cultures and women are expected to cover up and not talk when men are
06:39:26.660
talking and all those little nuances of just shut the fuck up and cooking cream i'm i mean i'm talking
06:39:31.780
about western culture here talk about if you talk about uh for example like a place like afghanistan
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i think that you could potentially make that argument okay but if y'all want to just keep it to
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america y'all haven't admitted but at some point women were oppressed and i think feminism and and
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some of that oppression still lingers like i mean you guys said i mean we couldn't we couldn't
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work there was nothing we couldn't work we wasn't going to school we were literally just
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made make babies clean cooking clean so you had to stay home while your husband went to work all day
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and you had to raise the kids and look after the house i think it's a choice it's also like we
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couldn't choose our husband too we were giving to our husbands by our fathers i mean they were like
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that's oppression there were arranged marriages i mean like i mean but it's like the choice the
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lack of a choice would you rather have the freedom yeah but the man was also forced to if there's
06:40:22.180
an arranged marriage the man's also forced to marry you okay but once again we're going back to who
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made the system it's like even you saying that you're glad that there was no women making the
06:40:30.820
constitution like that is oppression i know you didn't say that but i mean whether he was trolling
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or not there is oppression and some of that oppression i think that i'm sorry over this
06:40:39.380
conversation right there i think that like men were clearly clearly the oppressed class throughout
06:40:44.340
history when it comes to labor and when it comes to who was the primary victims of war it's pretty clear
06:40:49.300
that if you look at it just from the utilitarian perspective of like who had the most damage done to
06:40:53.460
them it was clearly men like there isn't there's like it's hard to argue otherwise even if you look
06:40:57.780
at throughout christian europe they had the notion of chivalry which is that men had to act with honor
06:41:02.500
towards women my lady knights had to go and die for women it's just clear that the primary victims
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of war have always been men and war has been the most tragic thing to ever happen in in humankind yeah
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i mean like if we look back into like maybe the early uh 20th century though i'm getting my wires
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crossed 20th century would be like the 1900s right 20th century yeah like if you look at men who lived
06:41:27.780
in pennsylvania who worked in a coal mine it's not clear to me if those men who die at like 40 because
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of black lung but they got to work and the women had to stay home and take care of the house where it
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was like the house was safe and have like have kids i don't like i don't know if it's really
06:41:50.260
it sounds it seems to me like most of the women would if you had to pick okay go into the coal mine
06:41:56.500
and then you're going to get black lung and the last one or two years of your life you're going to
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be like literally in constant pain because your lungs are all up from being in a coal mine
06:42:05.540
uh i feel like a lot of women would be like i'm actually okay staying at home i'm cool doing some
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dishes and that's true but i think the choice is the privilege the choice to choose between
06:42:19.380
before before this he's talking about the industrial revolution right and this is not a
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time where people could choose the men had to do that or else you won't have any money you won't be
06:42:28.420
able to survive and then even before that if you look at the agricultural time before the industrial
06:42:32.900
revolution over 90 of people were farmers and this was even before the steel plow was invented
06:42:38.980
men were just pushing through the fields all day every day and then the women were in charge of
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raising the children and most like like a lot of children died at birth or died when they were young
06:42:48.500
due to like various illnesses and stuff so for much of history men and women were kind of both in
06:42:53.300
the trenches suffering together it's only quite certainly like a modern thing where people don't have
06:42:58.020
to do this immense suffering and and dying young and losing children and everything this is a
06:43:02.580
modern concept it was statistics that men had some advantages if we talk about the page
06:43:07.700
the pay gap and everything like that but i just think feminism is not supposed to be this huge
06:43:12.820
anti-men movement but i think it was really originally supposed to be a safe space for
06:43:17.460
women to have each other's backs and not take anything that these men throw at us it's not
06:43:22.020
supposed to be anti-men not saying that hasn't turned to that but it was just supposed to be a safe
06:43:25.940
space just like how the black panther movement all this is supposed to be a safe space for
06:43:29.700
black people and other minorities have their safe spaces that's all the genesis of feminism like the
06:43:36.020
early adopters of feminism they were misandrous many of them hated men some of the most prominent
06:43:42.100
feminist writers and academics clear misandrous clear man haters um and look i'll take another like
06:43:51.540
i don't think misogynists are good either but i think there's a differential here where like if you
06:43:57.060
ask a lot of women like i i'm ready to i i think women are great i don't always fully understand them
06:44:04.100
but i think women are great i don't hate women um i think women are wonderful uh i think men are
06:44:11.460
wonderful but like if you ask feminist men like a lot of a lot of women you ask a college woman like
06:44:17.220
do we need men like they have a very even if it's a low level kind of like negative attitude towards men
06:44:24.420
which i find incredibly objectionable and this even low level like low level almost uh
06:44:31.380
i don't know if it's disgust or like disdain for men it could be very low level oh men suck blah blah
06:44:37.140
blah or it could be full-blown like i hate men uh or women will say i hate men total misandry look at
06:44:45.060
the end of the day feminism is a movement that's just entirely hostile towards men and you're not going to
06:44:50.500
convince me that like feminism has ever advocated for anything when it comes to like any way in which
06:44:55.780
men are disadvantaged uh feminism is a purely at its most uh i guess the most charitable it's purely
06:45:03.540
a uh what's the word it's a purely a woman's advocacy uh movement yeah it's pro-women it's not
06:45:12.580
anti-men it's pro-women but it's turned anti-men though some people yeah we have some radicals like
06:45:18.740
there's radicals in any movement there's radicals of course but that doesn't mean that's not saying
06:45:24.340
like like the black panther is anti-white we're pro-black we're giving our safety we're giving
06:45:29.620
our support to the people that need it like that would you say then that the uh for example like
06:45:34.740
the like a racist group from throughout history who are just pro-white like a like a modern day sort of
06:45:41.860
white supremacist movement would you say they're just pro-white let's see then and that's different like
06:45:46.340
that's different because they're literally they're literally trying to lynch people no no we're not
06:45:51.860
trying to say they're just looking out for white interests they're like a white nationalist and
06:45:56.100
they're just looking out for white that's not like pro-white movement to me yeah what's wrong with
06:46:00.740
that right i didn't say i didn't say anything was wrong with that i didn't say anything was wrong with
06:46:05.620
that i actually don't necessarily disagree with advocacy groups for your own kind uh but uh it
06:46:12.660
depends if your advocacy group like pathologizes others right so if you're looking out for if you
06:46:19.300
have like a movement that looks out for black people they're going into black neighborhoods and
06:46:22.340
trying to teach them financial literacy kevin hart does a lot of this i think he's a really good
06:46:25.940
example and he tries to go into these communities and say hey look you guys are capable of more than
06:46:29.700
this don't go to jail don't become incarcerated learn a little bit about financial literacy and aim
06:46:34.100
for the stars get educated that's fantastic if you're just doing it as a black advocacy group
06:46:38.500
but if you pathologize the other that's when it becomes very toxic and feminism from day dot did
06:46:44.580
that i we're going to do a row session then we're going to wrap up the show i guess final thing to
06:46:50.820
your point like when this podcast is said and done it's one of the like the there's very few like
06:46:56.820
male advocacy spaces out there very few when this podcast is all said and done i'm telling you
06:47:02.740
feminism is still going to have its claws in all the things i listed education news media
06:47:08.100
journalism corporations government feminism is going to continue to have its claws in all that
06:47:12.660
shit and at the end of the day feminism does have feminism holds all the cards feminism holds
06:47:19.460
everything it's like the fucking matrix dude feminism is the machines like you guys hold all the keys
06:47:27.620
all the cards that's it i'm one guy with a podcast there's very very few like male voices out there
06:47:34.820
that are doing any sort of male advocacy or like anti-feminist rhetoric it's very rare very rare i
06:47:41.540
just didn't understand really what this show like in that sense like it's anti-feminist for that reason
06:47:47.540
and then you feel like men have been like like dragged down in that way and you're trying to claw
06:47:53.860
your way back up by having like your foot in like what you stand i mean look feminism has just
06:48:04.580
forwarded completely like fabric fabricated ideology and positions patriarchy theory that's
06:48:11.300
fucking bullshit like all the stuff like you guys will totally misconstrue and like twist statistics to
06:48:18.100
like forward your totally false and erroneous positions it's totally catastrophic you basically
06:48:24.020
have like generations upon generations of women who think men are these dangerous violent grapists
06:48:30.100
and it's like absolutely disgusting you've painted us all as predators it's totally disgusting i i would
06:48:37.140
love to have a return to where men respected women and why where men respected women and women respected
06:48:44.020
men but it's clear due to feminist uh narratives and ideology that you basically taught a gent generations
06:48:51.380
and generations of women to have disdain and contempt for men that's it we should be cautious of men though
06:48:57.860
because who here has a creepy story about a man i bet everybody does so she's like like i mean i love men
06:49:04.180
and in my country we don't have some type of obsession and it's not like that it's in america it's
06:49:12.900
completely different it's different in my country it's not like that and it was before like very old
06:49:18.420
fashion and like you say men are tts is 20 where you're from men are gentlemen's where you're from
06:49:24.820
that's what you're saying yes yes yes yes because it's another rules another life it's more old
06:49:30.660
fashion and my father is a leader in my house and everybody not like obey but but we respect him
06:49:37.700
even today you see guys i respect you very much i want to say so much stuff even you say sometimes
06:49:42.820
something rude to me but i respect you and i appreciate that and i appreciate your rules and
06:49:47.940
everything you've been very respectful thank you i do i definitely uh appreciate that and um i was going
06:49:53.780
to say something on this final thing before we get into guys uh roast session 20 uh we'll do a brief
06:49:59.380
one then we're going to wrap the show but it's like man um i forgot i slipped my mind if it comes
06:50:05.540
back to me i'll do it one sec guys i'm going to get that all set up if you want to get some roasts in
06:50:10.260
here all right that should all be changed here in just a moment uh here oh wait one sec they're going
06:50:18.020
to make fun of us right and us yeah they make fun of me they talk about burritos and shit so it's all
06:50:25.060
good uh one sec guys that's almost ready to go and i know there were some other messages that came
06:50:29.540
through so hold on let's enable that guys like the video please like the video guys i know we're
06:50:34.740
getting towards the end of the show so please like the video okay that should all be set all right i'm
06:50:40.820
gonna let these come through michael jones donated 100 yes women are oppressed they are oppressed by
06:50:50.100
feminism that's the best argument for female oppression there is all right michael jones thank
06:50:57.060
you so much for the uh hundred dollar message man really appreciate it thank you thank you we have
06:51:01.540
desert joe coming in in just a moment here so guys oh i need to do this here too okay thank you man we
06:51:08.180
have the next one coming in in just a moment 20 tts guys get a minute session desert joe donated
06:51:15.060
one hundred dollars ch1 is misguided about gender and racial oppression it's more so class oppression
06:51:22.740
the rich slash elite class oppress everyone else they didn't care about what the race slash gender
06:51:28.980
of who they were oppressing the rich and poor obviously is it really quick sorry to interrupt i i just
06:51:36.340
while i remember what i was going to say so here's the reality women have never been more free
06:51:42.100
than today you've never had more benefits you've never had more privileges you're doing your little
06:51:47.940
clapping thing that's great you don't appreciate any of the uh you don't appreciate any of the like
06:51:54.740
substantial benefits that through men's labor and through men's genius has enabled you to just live
06:52:00.980
your totally comfortable and pampered life i do you guys don't realize how like you guys if we went back
06:52:08.420
150 years 200 years life was terribly brutal for both men and women like survival you food scarcity i
06:52:17.060
don't think you realize like how difficult life was 150 200 years ago you guys live the most comfortable
06:52:24.340
pampered lives of any women in the existence of the entire history of humanity and i just would love to
06:52:31.860
see so what you have is women you have the most privileged comfortable lives you've ever had in
06:52:38.260
all of human history and you hate men the most women hate men more today than they've ever hated men
06:52:46.020
in all human history because i just think that's disgusting because they don't feel like they have to
06:52:51.140
rely on them as much because it's not it's not ever present who's hating men i don't know
06:52:54.420
actually jake that's a really good like you can't love men if you view men as oppressors like it does
06:53:03.300
not compute like you literally you i'm not saying that that's your position but like you ask most
06:53:08.660
women they're gonna say oh yeah there's a patriarchy we gotta smash the patriarchy and men are oppressors
06:53:13.380
and i as a woman uh either am oppressed or historically women were oppressed you got to do to your point you
06:53:19.940
got to do a comparison like compared to what yeah women couldn't vote cool men like faced most men
06:53:27.540
never got to reproduce most men a lot of men historically just went and died in wars most men
06:53:33.380
worked brutal brack back excuse me back breaking laborious jobs and they you think like men aren't
06:53:40.820
trying to oppress y'all men go out and work and kill themselves and break their bodies for you they want a
06:53:47.620
wife and for their kids you think the gender wage gap men make more money they're doing it all for
06:53:54.900
you they want to they'll get your man your husband will give you fucking everything he'll literally he'll
06:54:02.420
take a bullet for not me he'll take a bullet for you men will sacrifice their lives for you they will
06:54:08.180
work until their bones are broken and their backs all fucked up for you and your family and your children
06:54:15.380
and i just think it's disgusting that we've totally have this these warped narratives when it comes to
06:54:21.380
men anyways i'm kind of ranting at this point just being beating a dead horse so so you think that
06:54:25.060
feminists were completely delusional when they started like whoever started the feminist movement
06:54:29.060
they just came out with the egalitarianism is where feminism comes from and egalitarianism is
06:54:34.100
is inherently it's the physical strength because it's impossible for human beings to ever be equal
06:54:39.220
because human beings form themselves into hierarchies right so they're different in so many ways because you
06:54:44.180
guys are physically stronger than us that we were just delusional enough to come up with this whole
06:54:48.420
oppression story like it actually wasn't it wasn't a bunch of women um i know you guys want to you
06:54:52.820
want to move on but it wasn't a bunch of women it was a bunch of massive financial interests who wanted
06:54:57.460
to bring women into the workforce so that they had more people to choose from and they had more
06:55:09.700
that's not what they taught me in school all right i'm gonna let the uh chats come in here
06:55:15.620
jason castle donated twenty dollars hey rebel i told you read a book start with rachel wilson's
06:55:22.740
occult feminism you will learn that feminism is not just wrong it is evil it's a fantastic book i'd
06:55:29.060
recommend it i'll read it well donated twenty dollars feminism isn't pro-women it's anti-men
06:55:36.180
it's planted by marxists in universities to disrupt the nuclear family in the west
06:55:41.620
bricks and keep fighting for equal rights love you jake no homo read unwoke
06:55:47.540
shniko zero four donated twenty dollars no one at the table is above the four not sure which is
06:55:55.620
lower their actual rating or their iq rough panel tonight brian we understand why you're going down
06:56:02.580
to one show a week yeah tonight was rough guys tonight was 20 thank you man share five you're not
06:56:09.700
fooling anyone i know it's stank girl do you want to respond to that he says
06:56:17.540
i know it's stank girl chair five that's you yeah do you want to
06:56:20.660
your xd donated money if you want to further explore the misunderstandings you seem to have
06:56:26.820
about the history of slavery across the world i recommend looking into the work of thomas sowell
06:56:32.580
he's brilliant and black discriminations and disparities
06:56:36.740
19th donated 20 dollars feminism has always been evil man-hating garbage you are brainwashed some of
06:56:45.620
the dumbest women i've ever heard speak think the exact same stupidity that you all think
06:56:51.060
repeal the 19th immediately yo thank you guys so much all of you who sent in the roast we have a
06:56:56.740
few more coming through guys we we won't do too long of a row so if you want get them in jason
06:57:02.340
castle donated 20 dollars hey rebel i told you read a book start with rachel
06:57:08.580
and i'll read it feminism is not just wrong it is evil and i actually want to give credit to you
06:57:16.820
rebel like i know you maybe disagree with us you disagree with our positions i think you've actually
06:57:21.460
been kind of at least open-minded you've heard us out you haven't like lost your your if
06:57:26.580
we say something you disagree with so i mean i appreciate you for like participating in the
06:57:30.900
conversation right and even if we don't disagree i want you to know like yeah i appreciate you guys
06:57:36.100
having me all you guys like i try to be unbiased too like because at the end of the day i see the
06:57:40.900
side of men if somebody does dated women that's why i've switched i see both sides about like feminism
06:57:46.500
like the race issue abortion transgenderism so touched on some hot topics and you're good and i
06:57:51.140
don't think feminism is evil either and i'm trying to watch out for us y'all don't understand like at the
06:57:58.180
end of the day like men have to go through all this i think the choice to make that power the power to
06:58:04.180
choose that a woman wasn't even there to sign off with the founding fathers that is privilege that
06:58:09.940
is that is oppression there should have been a woman there when we was creating the country
06:58:14.820
but i'm not just trying to hold it up we can go yeah i'm sorry like i just i'm sorry i'm not trying
06:58:20.740
to like drag it off i'm woman explaining but look no i do it even though we disagree i just want you to
06:58:28.420
know that uh like there even though we disagree it's not like i never have bad blood with people
06:58:33.940
that i disagree with right um and again to your credit you were very open-minded you were very
06:58:39.380
respectful uh even even when we did have things that you probably very strongly disagreed with
06:58:45.860
and to anybody else on the panel if we had disagreements but we kept things cool and collected
06:58:50.340
i appreciate that and i do want to point out i know they're gone but uh you guys do got to
06:58:55.700
acknowledge things chilled out major once a certain individual left the panel and that is best for the
06:59:03.780
show right yeah and i mean look how quickly we moved through everything things were fairly calm we got
06:59:08.980
through everything so uh we have a couple more coming through uh you know what wait hold on we have uh
06:59:16.420
rev or actually roxana let me have you read some of these sure and it can sky wanker 1987 20 dollars uh
06:59:25.140
thank you man brian great show tonight go get a burrito you deserve it ah yes i need i need to eat
06:59:30.820
after the show thank you anakin appreciate it um free free women from women's empowerment in
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islam both are from satan john veliket 20 dollars he's not been trolling his whole time thank you john
06:59:47.380
appreciate it real foe rogan chair three right here yep uh continues to try to speak to her
06:59:55.620
appreciation of men and you repeatedly cut her off and ignore her why don't you let her speak about
07:00:01.860
make appreciation in her culture instead of you playing the beta male victim card uh yeah no sure
07:00:09.220
that's fair um i mean i apologize if i cut you off at any points um sometimes it's just kind of the
07:00:14.340
nature of these conversations they're moving really fast we gotta get to the new thing but
07:00:18.180
given that if you if uh i'd like to give you an opportunity to speak if you'd like to speak i want
07:00:23.860
to say something you know guys when i come to america i was very much surprised why dating a lot i
07:00:29.940
told you first of all because i wanted to find a friend because i'm here completely alone and second
07:00:34.740
because i didn't understand what's wrong so there is something wrong here because of all this situation
07:00:42.100
with feminism and etc men afraid to act as a man what i mean in my country if man like the woman
07:00:50.740
he will do a lot of stuff to get her here man afraid to do anything like any step more because he
07:00:57.540
don't know she will like she he she don't like it she will sue him she go to poli she just want his
07:01:03.220
money he wanna she wanna use him here man is afraid to be a man and this is very bad this is what i really
07:01:10.180
don't like and i give up no i mean i'm i'm sure that one day i will meet this um the right man for
07:01:17.700
me but uh also what's interesting for me is that you know i working in the bar i have and in my bar
07:01:23.140
there are many men whoever they come in and talking to me what i find out in america there is no love
07:01:28.900
people forget how to love how to it's it's you know everybody's suffering from no love because you're
07:01:36.100
fighting guys stop fighting go love each other that was actually very profound and uh that was a
07:01:43.380
good good point good point um you said that uh men are like scared because they're worried like the
07:01:50.340
women are going to do like a lawsuit or go like say something that's not true is that kind of what
07:01:53.940
you're saying you know false accusations they not they're afraid to act i mean in my country if i say
07:02:00.900
oh sorry i don't like you or something and i just leave in my country what he will try to send you
07:02:08.100
flowers he will do something he will find you near your school or near university or whatever he
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tried to speak to you he tried to he will try to do a lot of stuff to get you because in my country
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mostly if you say no to man is like challenge for him like what she say no i will get her here in america
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if you say no they're like okay he will not do anything even even he will like you he will still
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will not do anything this is surprising for me okay all right we have two chats here then we're
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going to get this to wrapped up we have tim underscore val's underscore is underscore g donated 20
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yo great show tonight boys so i'm a huge lesbian trapped in a man's body plus happily married 10 years
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to a woman what the should we do nico zero for donate 20 nico long time as a millionaire speaking
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on behalf of the billionaires thank you she doesn't stand a chance with us easiest ten thousand dollars
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you will ever make brian yo yeah i tried to get her but she wanted the contract so unfortunately
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but me and her we got the did we do that i don't know whatever it's a deal all right 10k easy easy done
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by the way guys w's in the chat for nico long time supporter i think i don't know i feel like this is
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the first time i've seen you in 2025 so uh really good to see you uh j nico in uh 2025 man thank you so
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much really good to uh have your uh support and patronage thank you man thor donated 20 thank you
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thor feminism has inflated women egos to the point where many men feel it's just not worth the effort
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anymore or will simp slash white knight we truly are suffering from hoflation and simplation we're
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cooked cooked he says we're cooked shit thank you uh thank you man appreciate it all right guys i'm
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gonna get this wrapped up if anybody wants to send a final one in you can that's the final call uh
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oops what the heck happened sorry guys okay who we're gonna we're gonna do a twitch raid let's do that
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yeah oh my god yeah let's do it that'll be fun that'll be a fun way to end the show you guys will
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like this um okay we have hold on uh let's just yeah yeah we should we should have done it earlier
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my bad okay let's do it oh my god oh it's terrible it's like looking like whoopee bro you know that's
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kind of racist no wait what's this supposed to be like 45. i don't know no because i said at 34 i
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look better but like whatever that age that is it's ugly how many batches damien
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okay perfect next oh make it a little bigger god no it's not that bad
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oh man this would have been so good for miss i'm gonna be hot at 100 over here all right next
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make it a little smaller imagine that with a what happened to the damn you may you didn't just make
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her older you made her fatter too that's crazy that's crazy who who is that is that cat who did
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this okay next oh yeah this girl has the airbrush on the first one whoa hold on whoever did
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the originals are real younger than in reality yeah you guys did a lot of favors
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yeah for her on that first picture but okay all right the second one looks more like that's like
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okay you'll be a cute old lady became asian next okay
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oh okay the tuck shop lady all right there you go there you go she likes it she likes it next
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make it bigger still a total psychopath bro okay i'm coming after you next yeah y'all edited the
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first pictures oh my gosh okay i look like i like i have a small plane that i that i like to drive
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yeah like a police officer yeah or a cop a dirty cop just kidding uh next
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hey hey bro i can see us hanging out in a row fuck dude that's that's what happened to the chat one
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next oh let's do the gender one yeah let's do the gender one that'll be fun bro what you could
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have gave me a beard i have a beard though because my dad has a beard gave you a little peach fuzz there
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would you date yourself that's a bad picture what would hey okay forget the don't even look at the
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one on the left just the one on the right would you date that man
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yeah if he grew his getting some facial hair okay all right okay next
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oh my god what the fuck bro it's like someone's gonna grab me in a head that's terrible yeah
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i know i would not date me yo wait he's kind of handsome is that like a sloth on your head
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i would date you looks like a young brock lesnar what oh my goodness what is that
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you gave unibrow too the brows are crazy next they need to be whacked oh wait but when you date
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yourself wait make it a little smaller make a little smaller what the fuck olympic shot putter
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yo honestly though kind of handsome right holy wait okay that's something else um uh next
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oh wow nice mullet bro um okay okay uh next cutie oh you look the same it's still a woman
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would you hey what the come on really would you date yourself
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it's hard i don't know looks like such a bad man callie come on would you do it well the first
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one doesn't look like me and then the second one i don't know about that all right so no okay next
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you know what he's cute i feel like there wasn't he's cute is there really yeah in the second one
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she looks like luca brazzi she looks like she's a hitman would you date the male version of you
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italian mafia into the mic into the mic hell nah what
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uh is did you next oh i'm a baddie what the hell god damn jake i mean you still
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got a bit of a beard though look at the way she's looking at me
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you got you got like fuck me eyes there yeah dude holy shit all right hide your husband i mean
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i mean i don't know if this is the woman version of you or like the transition like i don't know
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you know it's like a little like chat would that's how jake would look if he was transgender
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right am i right you gotta soften the jaw i got some nice cheekbones and
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shit there i couldn't have that in real life okay would you jake would you date her yeah bro sweet
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it's kind of he looks like a bit of like a like a boss
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bitch though like corporate girl looks like she'd be a lawyer or some yeah well okay oh boy i'm nervous
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all right here we go bro that's dirty y'all did me dirty bro this first off this looks like a
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painting from like the 1500 and you look like i look like mona lisa in this
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shit like what the fuck i look like one of those uh what do you call it um
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like i look like i'm inbred royalty here bro why you gotta do me dirty like this man holy
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shit not that bad i that's fucked up man i'd still hit though okay anyways um
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is there an extra no that's it okay all right oh we got a couple chats here let's see
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blue baby donated twenty dollars what happened to anisa and morgan oh um yeah anisa she wasn't able
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to uh continue uh i mean we they both just weren't able to continue i'm telling you man look the
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background character is high high high turnover but um no drama i mean just no drama there or anything
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anisa like it's a new quarter or is it semester she had a different class schedule she's a she's a
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college student and you know these shows go late she had some like early classes so uh just her
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scheduling conflicts with anisa and then yeah so and morgan's also a college student so it is what it
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is um so uh we have nico here nico zero four donated twenty dollars first thank you super for 2025.
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thank you sorry q1 is extremely busy with work all good man still here still a fan appreciate you
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still supporting thank you loved the smoke you brought these last few nights jake guys w's in
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the chat for jake w's in the chat for jake um he's a legend and a scholar and thank you sir he's a
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brave and a decent man he's a pioneer and just before we carry on if anybody does want to check
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out the vlog we did with andrew wilson i think you guys will really enjoy it we did a travel video
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on rattlesnake travel and we shot some big guns and it was just the boys hanging out that's awesome
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people are enjoying it so sweet it's on your rattlesnake tv yeah and the link tree's in the
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bio yes we have the link tree for him okay he's a brave savage here donated twenty dollars
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yo savage thank you man shout out from hollis to california what's up brian and rattlesnake tv
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yo thank you so much man uh all right that's cool um you know what we need to do like a little
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wholesome thing here we're gonna raid whoa grandma oh speeds online maybe i could write now we'll just do
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whoa grandma love this lady yeah she's cool the wholesome moment here at the end of the show uh
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before you pull that up though i'll do the outro really quick okay gg well played to the panel last
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call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight uh you could have been
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anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who super
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chats donates and supports the show it means the world this show is uh viewer supported audience
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supported we're not doing sponsorships like almost all of our like live streams get like either age
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restricted or demonetized like we get the little yellow monetization icon so we are uh viewer supported
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so i appreciate uh all you guys so much and i've obviously appreciate even if you just watch that
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helps us out too so thank you guys we will be live again sunday or no excuse me it's super bowl
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sunday right coming up oh guys no show on super bowl sunday but we will be back tuesday at 5 p.m pacific
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got a really good oh yeah that february 11th show assuming no flakes you never know insane panel like
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insane panel it's gonna be really good so be sure to tune in for that any girls who want to be on the
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show you can dm out whatever on instagram oh sevens in the chat let's pull up the twitch oh we need to do
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one last twitch shout out before can you pull up the twitch thing yeah thank you man
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all right uh and i think all right guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever before we do the raid
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over there just drop us a quick follow guys drop us a quick follow and drop us a prime sub just check
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if you've got a prime drop it drop us a follow thank you guys so much really appreciate it over there on
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twitch and then uh can you pull up the stream for the guy hold on let me play this really quick
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wtf donated twenty dollars this is one of the ugliest panels you have had across all the episodes damn bro
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chill out the ugliest no person above a three props for actually trying to make us appreciate when the
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women here are pretty okay let's do the raid all right i don't need to kill anything all right i'm
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going to send the raid over guys thank you so much for watching on twitch i'm saying that raid over in
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just five seconds oh she's playing uh plunderstorm she is playing world guys be nice to her she's 82
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i think 83 be nice be very nice tell her what's up tell her uh tell her uh you know something nice
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all right guys sending that right over thank you guys for watching on twitch that's getting sent over
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now she's playing plunderstorm it's a kind of mini game within the world of warcraft ecosystem uh it's
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like uh what's it called uh whatever it's been a while hello there whatever it's been a minute it's
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what level is she and it looks like there oh only nine squad yeah they got pretty far in this game okay
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cool uh show her some love guys and uh all right i think that's pretty much it uh we got everything okay
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oh sevens in the chat good night guys oh sevens in the chat good night she's not there good night