Whatever Podcast - November 20, 2023

2 PRØSTITUTES RAGE QUIT？! Beefing Candace Owens？! Body Count OVER 9,000？! ｜ Dating Talk #119

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4 hours and 58 minutes

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55,203

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58

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In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have a special guest on the show, Olivia Bentley, who is a professional intimacy provider and porn star. We talk about how she got her start in the adult entertainment industry, how she started her career as a stripper, and what it's like being a porn star in the porn industry.

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00:02:17.060 link is in the description go subscribe so without further ado we're going to have the guests

00:02:21.940 introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead hey brian i am olivia

00:02:28.060 bentley i am 46 i am a professional intimacy provider and i am also a porn star what when you

00:02:36.400 say professional intimacy provider what what does that mean um so i provide intimacy whether that is

00:02:45.020 the emotional the physical the spiritual okay so and you're a court is courtesan courtesan courtesan

00:02:52.600 yes is it courtesan or courtesan courtesan courtesan courtesan courtesan courtesan courtesan shot

00:02:58.800 no no courtesan okay got it an i see okay got it all right uh and you were on before you were on then

00:03:08.180 you went on candace owens show um and uh there was a new york post article which we referenced in our

00:03:14.700 previous show but we'll pull that up a little later because that's certainly an interesting article

00:03:17.860 what about you uh hi i'm lauren roses i am 31 i am a courtesan at the moonlight bunny ranch

00:03:25.860 and i'm also a musician and i do pr for musicians as well do you guys all work at the same spot or

00:03:34.740 different different different so you're at the moonlight moonlight olivia where do you i'm

00:03:40.440 independent oh you you don't work at a yeah i've i've been bordello is that the term bordello yeah

00:03:46.480 i've been at the bunny and and i love her we we got a bunny together yeah very close yeah okay so at

00:03:53.040 one point previously you had been working at one of the branches i've worked at all of them you've

00:03:59.460 worked at all of them yes oh okay all right okay what about you my name is annie lowbear and i am

00:04:05.500 the ceo of hookers for jesus pink chair and i have two safe houses for women that have been formerly

00:04:11.820 abused by the industry the adult entertainment industry okay got it oh age oh i'm do i really

00:04:22.960 have to say my age brian come on what what people guess what just blow us away just just know that

00:04:29.320 i love the 80s so much and i miss them my husband's in a famous 80s rock band called striper striper

00:04:37.320 christian it like glam rock is it glam rock heavy metal heavy metal okay yeah all right nice and they

00:04:43.840 wear makeup and tight whatever and i'm 56 oh okay all right wow yay i thought you were in your 40s

00:04:52.200 yeah okay there you go oh thank you all right great what about you my name's mercedes otano i'm an

00:04:58.460 ex stripper and sex worker okay turned spirit-led pleasure-based life coach and sensual healer

00:05:04.880 age oh 33 33 okay what about you my name is alice little i am a legal sex worker

00:05:13.080 sex educator and intimacy expert and i'm 33 years old okay got it all right madison what about you

00:05:21.580 my name is madison i'm 18 years old i'm a full-time student

00:05:25.620 you guys didn't do uh we didn't do an audio test

00:05:30.340 nick you know what to do just uh

00:05:32.680 okay go go ahead uh my name is mason gregoire i am a uh i got crap for saying this last time but

00:05:42.120 i'll say it again i am foremost a follower of christ um mechanical engineer content creator

00:05:48.540 competitive power lifter whatever else yeah rock and roll welcome back um

00:05:54.500 hello speak more hi my name is madison can you guys hear her guys one in the chat if you guys can hear

00:06:02.840 one in the chat if you guys can hear her now

00:06:06.760 no we're not doing that okay um hold on uh age did you say age oh no 27 27 okay

00:06:20.540 all right um madison's mic is scuffed just typical shit um here can you try unplugging and plugging it

00:06:28.400 back in hello okay uh what here tap tap on the mic

00:06:38.320 is it one in the chat guys if it's no oh you're not kidding it um okay here here's what we're gonna do

00:06:48.160 um we're gonna go around the table um let me think how i want to tackle this because i need because

00:06:55.840 we're gonna get relationship status from everybody so um what's everybody's current

00:07:03.340 relationship status uh are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits

00:07:09.120 relationship married polycule sex cult if you're single how long have you been single and what's

00:07:14.420 your longest uh relationship or actually you know what before we do that keep keep that in mind um

00:07:21.240 can you tell us a little bit about your experience with the candace owens show sure so it was basically

00:07:27.520 a gotcha interview i um called up the producer and uh spoke with him and said can we have an oxford

00:07:36.120 style debate regarding um the legalization and decriminalization of sex work and they said sure we

00:07:43.540 can we'll fly you can we'll fly you out um they flew me out very promptly um they were very nice to me but

00:07:48.740 candace would not come out and talk to me uh prior to the interview and once i sat down they started

00:07:56.180 right in um talk she started right in asking me about my son and um that wasn't a part of the plan

00:08:06.200 so do you want me to keep talking okay i wasn't sure so so at any rate she started in and asked me

00:08:18.220 hey you have a son and i said yeah i do and then she said well he doesn't live with you right he lives

00:08:22.400 in another state so and she was looking down at notes so i think what had happened is she had had her

00:08:27.300 team do a background check on the wrong person and rather than doing the oxford style debate which

00:08:34.380 i had a lot of notes on and that's what i was prepared to do she made it a personal attack

00:08:40.400 in my opinion because if she would have said hey we want to bring you on and i'm going to try to

00:08:46.160 annihilate you as a mother and i'm going to talk about your son and we're going to get into some

00:08:50.200 personal dynamics of your of your family and your personal life i wouldn't have agreed to go on

00:08:54.780 so that was very fascinating so i held my own i did my best um there was

00:08:59.900 all the things that i wanted to debate about you know we really we we didn't really touch on all

00:09:05.860 of those things so i kind of was more like fending myself off from from personal attacks in my opinion

00:09:10.960 but i did get you know we got some pretty interesting intense debate going on there i thought it was a

00:09:16.020 good conversation i thought you guys had a good conversation okay thank you yeah i it wasn't you did

00:09:21.200 good thank you i mean i went with it and i had to go with the flow and and and you know try to be

00:09:26.460 gracious to the hostess but at the same time it wasn't it wasn't what we agreed to do at all okay

00:09:32.040 you know so you're saying she blindsided you yes yes okay all right yeah so i i did some kind of

00:09:37.540 reaction videos afterwards and some people thought that they were kind of ornery but it's it's it's

00:09:42.560 tried and true how i feel okay got it yeah well uh i think we got the mics working right um madison

00:09:48.680 can you maybe say something uh one's in the chat if you can hear madison icarus thank you for the

00:09:53.480 gifted 50 memberships so uh we'll go to the relationship status so what's everybody's

00:09:58.160 current relationship status again sorry single talking stage situationship friends with benefits

00:10:04.000 relationship married polycule sex cult harem uh how long have you been single if you're single and

00:10:09.060 what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead so i'm single um i i was married for

00:10:16.420 seven years and um i dated for about six months this last year with a gentleman okay so single

00:10:26.340 and you said you were dating somebody for six months pretty recently yes but that is that over

00:10:32.760 yeah i we were going to try to make it work where i would move in and um and we just decided it probably

00:10:38.400 isn't isn't for for the best just with the way opportunities are going and and my life is going

00:10:45.140 okay great person and what was your longest relationship seven years my marriage seven years

00:10:51.240 gotcha my former marriage okay when did you guys split up oh that was that was a long time ago um

00:10:57.640 when my son um was two he's 21 now okay got it so yeah okay i've tried to maintain i i've preferred

00:11:07.000 to be single in the industry okay okay um and so you just have the one son or you have

00:11:15.120 any other kids i have one son gotcha okay what about you uh so me i've been single three years

00:11:21.220 and uh i'm single now and yeah being in the industry it's kind of tough with the dating

00:11:29.060 situation so i think single for the best yeah okay and i if i recall from previous shows

00:11:37.200 you have you ever had like a long-term partner or no uh a couple like probably maybe like a year

00:11:44.740 and a half okay okay so i had one like situationship that lasted five years and that was when i was like

00:11:52.460 19 so gotcha yeah so your longest relationship though would you consider it the five-year

00:11:57.940 situationship or more like the two like the two one two year okay how long have you been single

00:12:03.020 sorry i missed that part uh three years three three years okay gotcha what about you i am married

00:12:09.780 14 years as of june 5th this year oh congrats and thank you and prior to that i had some lengthy

00:12:17.720 relationships okay two five year and a one i think was almost seven years two were former pimps

00:12:24.800 believe it or not the third one was my trick that i wanted to marry and then i married the guy that is

00:12:32.080 my husband oz oz fox so for the viewers watching who don't know what the trick is what is a trick and

00:12:37.860 maybe the other i apologize uh a trick is a it's a customer a client a mark a john someone that pays

00:12:45.160 for sex you you disagree with disrespectful i call they're they're they're people they're humans

00:12:50.220 they're my friends that's why i don't call them that yeah okay yeah i heard marks is sometime is that

00:12:56.700 yeah sometimes also a term when well the mark term from the 90 mark that's just what we would use

00:13:04.360 he's a mark yeah yeah he's an easy customer okay yeah gotcha that too we used to use that term

00:13:09.640 okay got it okay and you were so you were at one point was it either dating or wanting to get married

00:13:17.780 to one of the tricks it it was really weird i was coming to him because i was getting really mad

00:13:25.120 at because i was single okay and i had left my second pimp and he helped me actually do that and

00:13:31.280 my brother my brave brother chuck okay brought a shotgun it was an amazing it should have been a movie

00:13:36.700 honestly to the house and said she's coming home with me tonight and i got to leave him thank god but

00:13:44.080 the man that i was friends with that knew about my lifestyle that totally accepted it he was a

00:13:50.400 sweetheart of a guy still is he's like let me take you out of this business so on may 18th 1998 is the

00:13:58.560 day i quit the escort services in 98 yeah for the first time okay yeah thank you for the first time

00:14:05.800 yeah oh did you like have a relapse in like 2000 the beginning of 2003 2003 and then i overdosed on

00:14:14.020 august 2nd 2003 oh oh deed okay so then august 2nd on cooking okay yeah sorry to hear that um

00:14:22.260 and then so did you end in 2003 or you how long did you continue working that was the last time i

00:14:27.740 worked because i worked that full year yeah on the strip gotcha and were you as an independent

00:14:33.220 independent okay got it and so but you've been married for 14 years yes husband's a is he what uh

00:14:40.840 is he a singer is he the he sings background but he is the lead guitar lead guitarist that's right

00:14:45.800 gotcha he's been playing since he was six he's from whittier california okay uh really amazing person

00:14:52.680 met me this is part of my story as he read my myspace read your myspace and said okay i like this girl

00:15:02.160 and my myspace said x can i say the word with the p or not prostitute yeah oh yeah that's fine

00:15:08.700 prostitute annie lobear okay and he clicked on it and he was like who would do that and he was totally

00:15:15.600 into it and loved my story and was like you know uh i just want to let you know that uh i think you're

00:15:22.660 a real cool person and i'd like to see if i could talk to you so he he sent you a private message a dm

00:15:29.040 i guess before he was it was even called dms um on myspace he did and myspace okay i had a a blog

00:15:36.900 that i did that hit number one several times in the entire world oh wow i one said jesus loves

00:15:42.840 prostitutes and a lot of people disagree with me and i'm like that's not true he does so oz saw

00:15:49.540 the actual myspace because he went to dinner with kevin maxx and that's from a band called dc talk

00:15:57.340 and striper was recording their album in las vegas so they went to dinner and my best friend heather

00:16:02.980 veach she went to dinner with them and then he went to her myspace to become her friend he saw me

00:16:08.140 and her top friends clicked on my picture and everything was done after that actually she called

00:16:13.480 me that night and said i just met your husband i said what she's like i just met your future husband

00:16:19.680 annie this is the guy and i'm like get real girl you don't know but she was right she was like this is

00:16:27.200 the guy for you so he got vetted like that night it's like kind of amazing when your best friend

00:16:33.140 can vet somebody that they know is good for you it's something you can trust you said that so he

00:16:38.040 saw your profile on myspace that you had written that former was it escort what did you have written

00:16:46.660 on your message ex-prostitute ex-prostitute annie labert you know what actually it said ex-hooker

00:16:51.280 ex-hooker i misquoted myself okay how long had you been out of the industry

00:16:56.060 when i first met oz it was in 2007 so yeah four years five years almost did you have a friendster

00:17:03.160 too that's like friendster friendster is like the even before myspace no myspace was my first

00:17:10.100 experiment i will never forget right in the in that space the first time but so so your husband he told

00:17:15.900 you that like he saw that on your myspace and is that he you i think you already said it but what

00:17:21.020 did he say he said that's when i knew that she was the one is that or like he he was just intrigued

00:17:25.560 was very intrigued by me he loved the way i look first of all like duh you're gonna attract somebody

00:17:29.980 did you have the same hairstyle back then or was it no it was it was black and and blonde so it was

00:17:35.660 black on the bottom and it was a little shorter and blonde on top 2000 wait was this in 2004 2005

00:17:41.720 2000 when he saw myspace it was 2007 oh 2007 when he saw my picture yes okay that was like peak emo

00:17:48.500 yeah did you have your hairstyle make sense did you have your emo thing going on you know what i i'm

00:17:54.820 gonna tell you guys that time was such a magical time in my life because social media had just become

00:17:59.380 this cool thing right facebook was like oh we don't do facebook nothing was invented yet it was

00:18:06.760 myspace was like the thing and i had such a blast writing blogs

00:18:10.500 i was just it was like my little space to kind of vent and yeah it was just really powerful and it

00:18:17.820 was really neat because when oz read my story which i was really honestly upset at the time at my two ex

00:18:25.760 pimps but i only told on one of them and i just i admitted what i had done and you know the drugs

00:18:34.020 towards the end i was sober the first 10 years of my lifestyle when i was working in the adult

00:18:39.000 entertainment industry and actually in the beginning enjoyed it and i was a stripper as well so

00:18:45.380 i enjoyed entertaining men gotcha okay so one question about the band striper striper yeah has

00:18:54.400 it always been a christian uh rock glam rock band they didn't start as striper they were

00:19:00.800 called rocks regime in the very beginning yeah and my husband kind of subbed and came in they asked

00:19:07.060 him to come and play and then they were playing and these kids would line up at the brother suite's

00:19:13.900 house while they played in their garage sure they would line across the blocks and just these kids

00:19:18.960 would just come see and play and one of their friends said hey why don't you guys do something

00:19:24.520 different gosh i don't want to mess this story up um it's okay i tried it i tried to remember how it

00:19:30.840 went they they said hey guys wouldn't it be cool if you dedicated your lives to jesus and your music

00:19:38.980 yeah and they were like i love that okay let's do it and they did it they were already filling the

00:19:45.940 clubs on hollywood boulevard but this took them to a new level they got so much attention all of a sudden

00:19:53.140 they got a record deal all of a sudden they're on mtv most requested video of the day i mean it was

00:19:59.300 crazy it was like a whirlwind for them and and your your organization it's called it's hookers for

00:20:06.300 jesus yes okay actually we should maybe a little later nick if you can pull up that that instagram

00:20:11.300 account because there's some interesting posts on there uh so hookers for jesus does anybody challenge

00:20:17.500 you on that like how does it all the time like how how is that possible you know because i was thinking

00:20:21.840 like atheists for jesus you know i understand that's actually a thing by the way there are

00:20:26.400 atheists and i totally respect that any anything anyone wants to call themselves whatever the name

00:20:33.680 really was a joke actually at first but not in not in a mean way i was actually really mad at the vice

00:20:39.180 cops because every time i got arrested 25 times in lost 25 times 25 times for escorting how about the

00:20:45.360 other girls here solicitation i've been arrested yeah not you guys been arrested not for that though

00:20:49.340 i got murdered was a murder no it was uh fighting oh fighting come on girl i have a crazy past yeah

00:20:57.460 okay all right i got hands oh okay i was picked up madison but oh yeah oh yeah so the name i was

00:21:07.440 driving away from church because i obviously when i overdosed i have this church background i used to be a

00:21:12.040 lutheran as a little girl and i remember my glowing dark cross and so i kind of like gave my life

00:21:17.800 towards like i have to get my life straightened out because right now it is not going very well

00:21:22.320 and i was really mad like i said at the vice cops because they had always whenever they arrested me

00:21:28.100 or my friends they would be like look at you hoes look at you hookers you know you guys are just

00:21:34.100 whores i mean who would marry someone like you you better get your life i mean just this lecture

00:21:39.120 that right now they're actually changing in las vegas i'm really proud of that by the way because

00:21:43.140 i'm on the las vegas task force for human trafficking and i was driving away from that church

00:21:48.820 and i heard this little voice in my head and i was like what am i going to call myself because i was

00:21:55.760 passing out my card that said call me if you need help my name's annie annie lobear and i was thinking

00:22:02.620 about the story of jesus this is so crazy this is actually what was i just talking about

00:22:10.120 matthew 419 says i will teach how to fish for people and he said i heard this voice in my head

00:22:16.700 you're my little hooker for jesus because you love jesus and i'm going to teach you

00:22:22.140 how to help the women that are being abused so that's how the name came around

00:22:27.380 there is a verse and it means i'm sorry scoot it scoot it scoot it it literally means fishing

00:22:33.380 for people that are drowning in the dark waters of sex trafficking wow so there was a verse i came

00:22:39.540 across today and it said satan is the accuser of the brethren yes and i was like let's continue on

00:22:45.580 with the relationship status go ahead um um seven years longest relation actually i've

00:22:52.540 current current relationship current relationship so seven years but i've technically been in a

00:22:59.960 relationship for 13 years okay so currently you've been wait i know it's confusing so seven years

00:23:09.300 so you're in a relationship yes i'm in a relationship currently seven years current but your longest

00:23:13.120 relationship is 13 no i've just been in a relationship for 13 years wait i know it's very

00:23:19.620 confusing were you seeing multiple um guys when i met my daughter's father i was in a real in an

00:23:25.920 open relationship but we it's a very very close we're still friends he's like the godfather of my

00:23:31.060 daughter and everything are you dating multiple people currently or just no just the one we're

00:23:34.780 seven and that's seven years gotcha okay i see okay got it what about you i am single i have been

00:23:42.400 single for the entirety of my career within the nevada brothels but prior to that i was in a two-year

00:23:48.600 long relationship coming out of high school okay two-year relationship gone it um and you how long

00:23:56.120 have you been in the industry oh gosh since 2015 now 20 and you've been single that entire time

00:24:03.380 yes but when you say single like you haven't had a long-term relationship but have there been men

00:24:08.220 you've maybe dated on the short term like for a couple months or something that you wouldn't consider

00:24:12.460 a boyfriend but you did date them uh for a short period of time nothing zilch zilch okay got it

00:24:21.600 uh madison what about you i'm currently taken i'm in a beautiful relationship with my boyfriend frankie

00:24:28.440 and this relationship is my longest relationship it's been about a little over a year got it what about

00:24:34.220 you yeah um single i've been single for a while but uh i'm picky and i'm not really like desperate

00:24:42.820 for anything to happen and it'll happen in the lord's timing and uh i trust him with that

00:24:47.760 longest relationship yeah longest relationship was a year one year gotcha wait just to i don't know if

00:24:55.100 we talked about this last time are you waiting in because you're a christian man are you waiting

00:24:58.740 until marriage yeah i am waiting for marriage waiting for marriage okay are you have you been

00:25:03.360 intimate with the woman no no i never okay wow gotcha even with your one year relationship you guys

00:25:12.040 didn't no yeah gotcha okay so interesting wow yeah so he's waiting until marriage i love that for you

00:25:19.380 i love it too thank you thank you beautiful are you i had a question oh go ahead go ahead go for it

00:25:24.700 are you um picky about um for instance is it more their personality or is it their past and

00:25:32.300 personality or if it's just like hey this person's a great person i really like them oh that's a yeah

00:25:37.760 that's a loaded question i mean that's a good question yeah yeah i mean of course they're like

00:25:43.840 there are things i look for in a woman um first and foremost she has to be a believer if she's not a

00:25:49.280 believer off the table no question yeah um after that i have to be attracted to them so generally

00:25:56.380 that means like i want someone who takes care of themselves so like wants to look good so usually

00:26:02.040 going to the gym actually one of my favorite bible verses of all time is it's in proverbs 31

00:26:07.140 talking about the godly woman and it says that she strengthens her arms so girls out there get in the gym

00:26:14.320 but yeah um so i've got to be attracted to her um let's see so personality wise i want a girl who

00:26:25.220 has i was actually just talking about this with my buddies she has goals in mind she doesn't just

00:26:30.240 have these goals like i want her to desire to be a mother um to be a good wife uh to be like

00:26:37.760 learning new things new skills that will help her multiply our house once it's established

00:26:43.920 uh i want her to have those goals but i also want her to be chasing those goals currently in her

00:26:50.100 singleness um i think it's crazy for women to think that i can chase all of these other things that are

00:26:58.600 counterproductive to being a wife mother whatever the things i want eventually yeah i'm going to do all

00:27:05.700 these things that are counterproductive to it and then all of a sudden switch and be like when i when i

00:27:10.080 get married i'm just going to like turn it it'll just be a flip i'll flip a switch and it'll turn

00:27:13.920 on and yeah it's fine after that yeah that's kind of like a that's a that's a major red flag for me

00:27:20.300 um i want her to be currently working towards being a wife mother godly woman i have a question for you

00:27:27.080 would you date a woman who is or was involved in sex work good question that's a good question

00:27:34.920 reformed can i add to that sure who's reformed and reformed uh-huh and has given her well i don't

00:27:40.800 want to say reformed i know it's yeah who has surrendered herself to christ yes that's a good

00:27:47.920 question um i oh hold on yeah brixton from experience getting maced in the face is less painful than the

00:27:56.640 show thus far oh so far the most interesting part of this show is guy fawkes mass ways does she bow

00:28:03.140 what what so she um she actually doesn't speak english i've hired her to be my massage therapist

00:28:11.380 because as you guys know i've been very stressed doing these shows so i figured hey take i'll take

00:28:18.120 a little load off if i have a massage therapist you know doing a little massage so she's paid she

00:28:24.940 doesn't speak any english though so um yeah but uh maybe the bow will do also i'll ask about the bow

00:28:32.080 um i'll see if i can get a bow later thank you grid one motor sports yeah um so yeah grid i'm sorry

00:28:39.000 that this show has been painfully boring for you i apologize sincerely um we'll get we'll get there

00:28:46.480 don't worry five minutes just yeah five minutes in this is not enough anyway answering that question

00:28:52.360 um yeah so short version of that answer is yes i would now i got to give a long version because

00:28:59.180 that's kind of wild but i think i mean so the caveat has to be she has repented so that that's

00:29:07.340 the pattern of salvation i mean christ puts it forward and says you must repent and believe it's

00:29:13.720 not just believe it's repent and believe so you must turn away from your sin and believe in me and

00:29:19.960 that repentance is extremely important because if you don't realize that you're sinful and that there

00:29:25.280 are sins that you've committed then the belief is shallow because even the bible says even the

00:29:30.960 even the demons believe and they fear me so it's the repentance that's essential so in this instance

00:29:39.140 it's okay if she has she repented of her sin does she feel like do i see in her life there is a pattern

00:29:45.680 of repentance of i know i sinned before and that is no longer who i am um i can i can i yeah explain on

00:29:54.280 that go for it so i say i've sinned before what if she's what if she doesn't look at her past as a

00:30:02.960 sin but more of a stepping stone to god so okay this this is a uh yeah that's a good point because i

00:30:10.220 believe that that sex work was a pathway to god for me so i wouldn't disagree with that um i don't

00:30:17.120 i obviously i don't know your story i don't know uh the sins you've repented of whatever but

00:30:21.820 i think god uses terrible things to bring people to himself i mean there is a proverb that says that

00:30:30.460 uh the that the that man has his plan but god directs his steps so the intention of the man's uh or the

00:30:40.200 person's heart might be sin and evil but sometimes god uses our evil to bring about good

00:30:47.820 so yeah i i don't say i i would agree with you that god can use the sin that we intend to bring

00:30:56.240 about good because he's smarter than us and he plans that stuff out so ideally i would say uh it would

00:31:03.300 probably be better not to sin than to sin because we we there is a righteous god yeah but uh but if it

00:31:12.100 caused you to come to him i'm gonna praise him for that but uh ultimately i want people to come to

00:31:19.600 him so you would date a woman who was an ex-sex worker there would have like so the short answer

00:31:27.220 is yeah but there would have to be like i would have to see proof after proof like she has totally

00:31:32.340 changed like her attitude like how she behaves around guys like she's not she doesn't flirt around

00:31:38.300 other dudes she's not participating in single behavior so she's not going to clubs and like

00:31:43.280 partying with her single friends like she is like i am practicing to be a wife a mother like i'm

00:31:50.300 learning how to cook do all this stuff to serve my house i'm learning how to invest how to make money

00:31:55.360 while my while my husband is out working like she's got to be she's got to prove to me that this

00:32:02.440 is no longer an effect on her life sex workers aren't necessarily going to the clubs because i don't and

00:32:08.000 you got to pay me five grand an hour just to get me to to talk to you and spend time with you so

00:32:12.980 five at the club uh over at the bunny it's five g's five g's for an hour so and and i don't and i

00:32:21.860 don't go to clubs i don't go to clubs i don't even drink and i don't drug and i do fitness competitions

00:32:26.360 and it's it's actually like a career so um what if you want let's not stereotype 20 minutes

00:32:32.540 how much is it for 20 minutes we negotiate we can every lady's different though too so they have

00:32:44.220 different uh rates yeah stuff is to say speaking of it's not a lifestyle of of sex workers to be in

00:32:50.860 clubs okay necessarily i'm not saying that like i'm not saying that the sex worker is always going

00:32:56.400 to be in the club i mean it's for some of us you might find that your clientele there but whatever

00:33:01.500 but he sounds like a real you sound like a real christian though like a real one you're real like

00:33:06.060 a real one he's a real christian a real one he's not a fake christian yeah because the fake ones you

00:33:10.500 can tell right away yeah you could but you're a real one i appreciate it yeah real you're real

00:33:15.360 he's a real speaking of olivia speaking of the rates here and i have a bunch of questions for all

00:33:20.380 of you guys you said that you your rate is 5 000 for an hour is that correct depending perhaps on

00:33:27.760 the details could be more could be less and and then and then girls it's like we're independent

00:33:31.980 contractors so we can negotiate so you know somebody comes in and they're like man you know i've been

00:33:37.540 planning this trip for a long time and i don't have quite that but this is what i've got and then

00:33:41.880 it's up to me okay what are you wanting what what what you know what are we going to be doing

00:33:46.400 together and let's say he smells great he looks great he passes the the dc the the penis check

00:33:53.380 right we're going to be looking at that make sure the dick check and um and then maybe i say okay i'm

00:33:59.340 going to come down for you because i like you and we're going to have a good time and that's my

00:34:03.280 decision so ultimately it's consent and it's to each their own oh okay all right interesting

00:34:09.980 interesting but you know there's always this assumption that we're easy oh and so

00:34:15.840 military discounts any coupons alice it depends on who you are discounts yeah i have my anytime

00:34:24.720 special for police officers that's public service yeah there's a military discount yeah you offer

00:34:31.000 military discount but then after that the firefighters and the emt guys wanted to get in on it because

00:34:36.120 and so really it's like if you're in um if you are in a job of duress and you experience a lot of

00:34:42.160 trauma i will give you a discount yeah doctors nurses what about podcast host it's a very stressful

00:34:48.500 incredibly maybe it wasn't a proposition um wait so the military discount police fire emt what what is

00:34:57.460 it a 10 discount 25 25 discount yes anytime what does it depend what what branch of the military

00:35:04.720 like no can i ask you to exclude the coast guard i don't know if the coast guard should be maybe you

00:35:12.780 give them like a 10 you know yeah yeah right yeah i just remember the guardian with ashton kutcher

00:35:17.920 the coast guard movie i like border and movies for some reason i don't know

00:35:23.040 do any of you offer a discount like this like a military firefighter this firefighter discount you got

00:35:32.080 one yeah i have set rates so um all my rates are set um so um uh since i can't divulge on on here but

00:35:41.740 what the rates are yeah yeah they're all set though um it's less than 5 000 definitely like what my

00:35:49.800 beginning experience is but um i do offer specials and then if it's someone's first time i do add an

00:35:56.780 extra like 10 minutes sometimes because there could be nerves and you know it could be kind of

00:36:01.720 time to warm up and enjoy themselves oh yeah okay 10 15 when you guys were when you were working when

00:36:08.780 you were working any military discounts no discounts okay i never did discounts what about you

00:36:16.160 except for people that were handicapped but yeah oh okay all right yeah i tend to prefer guests that

00:36:22.020 are looking to have prolonged experiences with me and i also prefer guests that want to see me more

00:36:27.660 than just one time i like the relationship aspect of this job and so i tend to favor guests that want

00:36:35.260 to spend a longer period of time rather than show up i want to just get in there get off get out of

00:36:40.960 there that's not so much my thing i see okay military discount of course

00:36:48.300 yes and i just recently offered a free sex to the winner of the formula one race oh wow

00:36:56.160 oh wait isn't that tonight free to lucky guy oh at the formula one in las vegas oh yes it was a

00:37:04.200 tremendous event it brought 1.7 billion dollars into our local economy which we are incredibly grateful

00:37:11.960 for so i decided to throw it out there and right on do you think las vegas he'll take you up on it the

00:37:17.060 winner of the race why do you think that there was a hard deadline and we're like oh no we've got

00:37:22.140 flights to catch we gotta go there's places to be

00:37:25.160 sure sure um okay so i think we oh i had it wanted to know how long have you guys all been doing

00:37:32.800 sex work i have 15 years i would say about 15 years okay and the scope of the sex work has it

00:37:39.460 always like did you start out like dancing or stripping and then did it transition into

00:37:44.500 you know escorting anything i went right into the bunny ranch straight and i started a real s corp

00:37:52.020 straight in and then i've i got my master's degree so i i'll come in and out at the beginning dennis

00:37:58.020 hoff wanted me to do jump on the hbo special and do publicity and i said no my son is young i spent no

00:38:03.800 more than a week and a half a month working and then i'd be home being a stay-at-home mom and put my son

00:38:11.480 through private school and then that inspired me to want to be a teacher and so i went and i've been

00:38:16.620 a teacher and i've been vp of business growth at an active management wealth company i did real

00:38:22.040 estate during covid so coming in and out of white collar work's been important for me because i know

00:38:27.840 that you know i've got other things that i can do if i don't want to do this tomorrow okay uh so i

00:38:34.780 well i've been doing sex work since i was 21 um i in high school i was always kind of conservative

00:38:44.060 i came up from a really religious home and uh pretty much when i got out of high school a lot

00:38:53.180 of people thought i was gay um or they would call me dyke um a lot yeah i would get called that a lot

00:38:59.780 because i would i'd wear pantsuits i'd wear black i'd smoke cigarettes and just kind of be by myself

00:39:03.920 and uh i remember i remember it was valentine's day one time and they're like i was like oh i don't

00:39:09.100 have valentine i don't have a guy and they're like god i thought you were gay and i was like what and so

00:39:13.540 i my friend my friend was a a dancer at the time and i was like you know what maybe i should explore

00:39:18.440 the side of my sexuality and try to come out of my shell because i'm kind of tired of being called

00:39:22.360 like gay when i'm when i'm not you know and um not that there's anything wrong with it it's just

00:39:27.800 didn't want uh that to be called that and so i did dancing and uh i did dancing for like five years

00:39:36.220 then i did playboy and after playboy um i worked independently and then that's when i got into

00:39:43.600 oh sweet to think for the gift of 20 memberships yeah and that's when you got into well uh i had i

00:39:51.240 was a victim of a crime and obviously here i won't go yeah sure yeah i go on a super doodle but

00:39:56.220 um my friend was a porn star at the time her name is misty matrix and she referred me to the ranch and

00:40:02.120 then now here everything's been safe and good since okay got it uh what about you 16 years

00:40:09.120 off and on so full-time 11 i started when i was 18 got it what about you um i started when i was 17

00:40:17.120 i always say i feel like i'm still in sex work stop the cap sorry sorry sorry sorry i did not mean to

00:40:24.520 press that go ahead go ahead i started when i was 17 that's actually a crazy story but

00:40:29.400 i started when i was 17 and i danced for 10 years and i feel like i'm still in sex work it just

00:40:35.620 looks different now sure okay and you've totally ceased correct um or yeah like i don't go i don't

00:40:42.960 strip or escort anymore i see yeah gotcha what about you well i started working at the front desk of a

00:40:50.640 bdsm dungeon in new york city when i was 18 years old is it still around it still is what's it called

00:40:57.420 well it's a privately owned club so it's very very much so okay that's how i got my start is it like

00:41:07.320 a swingers thing too no it was a private bdsm club where people go to receive a variety of sensations

00:41:15.660 oftentimes on the more severe end of things from professionals who know what they're doing and are

00:41:22.040 able to do so in a way that is safe risk aware if there are any risks and of course very consensual

00:41:29.500 i see okay and you worked the front desk i did how long were you on the front desk i was on the front

00:41:36.280 desk for about two years and i was also in charge of organizing the educational track so i was able to

00:41:42.440 attend all these different classes and learn all these different cool kinky things okay and eventually

00:41:48.100 became an educator myself gotcha and so you you said how long have you been in the industry like uh

00:41:54.620 actually escorting or i've been working within the ranches since 2015 so almost 10 years now okay got

00:42:02.760 it i'm curious so how many in a day how many clients do you see i'm only seeing

00:42:12.160 now you know these days and i get to vet them very carefully i only see like clean professionals

00:42:18.500 i see regulars so you know people i've built relationships with maybe two guys a week oh two

00:42:26.240 guys if yeah not much what a long time ago yeah when you were at the ranch or whatever that was

00:42:31.260 wild you know when the hbo special was really really popular um dennis hoff was just driving tons of

00:42:37.720 people in from all over the world and sometimes maybe it would be as many as like five or seven

00:42:43.400 guys a day that or in couples too we did a lot of couples so women included gotcha and that's and

00:42:48.860 that's a lot but um it's um a physical energy and i'm an athlete and it's one of those things it's like

00:42:55.760 you get going you get your juices going and you you want to keep going sex athlete yes or like a

00:43:01.680 different kind of athlete well i never heard of that i i can't explain it you just you want to go

00:43:06.220 back for more sometimes when when you're making good money and you have this this um amazing physical

00:43:12.920 experience and the serotonin's going um you know and i was a lot younger and i just wanted to head on

00:43:19.200 out there for more but now i'm training in the gym like half the day no no maybe maybe one guy a week

00:43:25.860 maybe two guys a week um you know maybe they'll fly me over and we'll spend a weekend together i like

00:43:31.080 to be a travel companion i like to spend you know long durations with these guys that i build a

00:43:37.580 relationship how often are you traveling like being a travel companion i'm traveling monthly okay so

00:43:43.100 the panel talked about abortion slash contraception how does everyone feel about and month abortions

00:43:50.040 i asked beck as a teen mom i had an early abortion and it broke my soul

00:43:54.920 it came up as a 20 dollar super chat that's weird i already i already showed it oh um that must be

00:44:08.560 something buggy with that thing uh go on go on continue yeah so um i really appreciate just

00:44:15.240 quality you know quality relationships ongoing friendships um and i appreciate you know spending

00:44:24.640 a great deal of time with people but um i'm trying to the panel feel about late i'm not sorry i'm um

00:44:30.740 i'm training as a fitness competitor these days so half my day is in the gym so um you know i'm not

00:44:38.820 gonna be getting it on all day i see okay got it got it okay cool um let me hold on i need to fix

00:44:46.700 that one sec guys that's bugged out um how often are you seeing clients so you know typically i try to

00:44:56.400 do you know just one person like if i mean i don't generally book every single day but if i could get

00:45:03.620 one person in the day that would be great if by chance there happens to be like someone they said no

00:45:08.440 this is the only day i can do it and i really want you know we're going to see you i'm not going to

00:45:12.400 turn them down um but typically i try to keep it one in the 24 hours but if if there just happened to

00:45:19.420 be another one i'd be like okay i'm not gonna shut you off yeah well when you were at the working on

00:45:25.260 one of the ranches how many people were you seeing then um in a day okay so in a week i guess well

00:45:34.100 you know and again that that depends so maybe maybe you know maybe that day i saw three guys

00:45:39.400 and then the next day i i got busy i went to the gym and then and then i didn't happen to book that

00:45:44.840 day and then maybe the next day i saw you know two guys so you know i would say on average maybe

00:45:52.060 five five guys weekly um you know in in recent times in recent times okay yeah and i but i've i've

00:46:02.220 also learned i want to pace myself and i don't want to spend my whole day there i spend half the

00:46:08.380 day out and about i go hiking i go to the gym i go with the girls out and i've i've kind of learned

00:46:13.780 to ebb and flow my energy and how much i give of myself okay got it got it uh what about you when

00:46:20.660 you were in the industry maybe if you had to average it out like how many guys in a day would

00:46:27.060 you see i would say probably about 10 10 per day gotcha on on slow seasons five and if someone

00:46:33.500 paid more money i spent more time with them obviously and i traveled that was one person a

00:46:38.540 day so but during busy seasons like if formula one came which it never did before so the first time

00:46:45.360 big sporting events probably like 15 in the escort service in las vegas the more calls you get the

00:46:53.760 more money you make and the escort services that i used to work for pushed us to get as many calls

00:46:59.940 in as we could so it's like you got 20 minutes go i got five lined up after this one and so

00:47:05.920 unfortunately that's part of their game um they try to make as much money as possible

00:47:09.960 sure each person gotcha what what's the most you've ever seen in one day oh gosh i've never counted

00:47:16.980 that maybe because of a bachelor party 20 20 25 25 okay what about you guys 10 maybe 10 in the day i

00:47:28.600 think 10 when i first started yeah gotcha what about you so when i was when i was escorting i was

00:47:36.160 i just want to say like it's important to note that escorts prostitutes like whatever you want to call

00:47:41.120 them we still have the ability to like choose who we want to be with so it's not like this thing where

00:47:46.740 it's just like a guy's coming in and we're like yes yes yes yes yes to everybody we still have the

00:47:50.880 option to choose so for me in particular i was very choosy um and i like you were saying i really

00:47:59.460 enjoyed having just like longer term customers so for me it'd be like one a month if that and i was

00:48:05.900 very very like would only be with like celebrities celebrities or athletes that was just my standard

00:48:13.580 that so that was the criteria you used to measure yeah i i held like i guess a standard so i would

00:48:20.100 be like okay if this is like i would never go with like a regular a regular person so is that kind of

00:48:26.340 like around the table the same thing like what are the standards like what's the standard like this

00:48:32.620 person is a yes this person's a no who somebody is matters a whole lot more at least for me personally

00:48:38.780 than anything else and by that i mean the quality of the person are they going to be treating me

00:48:45.800 well are they coming in with good intentions yeah i want to have a good experience just as much as the

00:48:51.520 other person does i don't care what somebody necessarily looks like on a physical level their

00:48:56.020 height their weight i certainly care if they're of legal age i certainly care that they want to be

00:49:01.520 there consensually of their own free will but like i i'm not looking for celebrities i oftentimes find that

00:49:08.340 my guests with disabilities are those the ones that treat me the best did you say how many clients

00:49:14.560 that you see no i typically am only available by appointment only i see maybe two to three people

00:49:22.920 a week if that and even at the absolute most i'm like y'all are out here doing the most i'm over here

00:49:30.180 like i saw three people once and that was really stressful what's the most you've seen in one day

00:49:37.080 three three and i'm over here like y'all are doing 25 damn it's a lot on the bodies oh my gosh yeah i

00:49:45.740 find that the quality of the services that i'm able to provide is really important to me and if i'm

00:49:52.880 focused on like a quantity sort of thing i don't really know if that's going to result in good

00:49:58.800 experiences for everyone a little earlier on in the conversation um you guys had mentioned getting

00:50:03.780 arrested for what oh i've never been oh shoot olivia you've never been my clients let's let's hear

00:50:13.100 what was it murder manslaughter what are we talking here so okay so i was it during playboy days um we

00:50:24.340 would go out to the club and i didn't want to be at the club anymore i just wanted to walk back to my

00:50:28.460 brother's hotel room because he got a hotel room and uh it technically wasn't an arrest but i was

00:50:35.780 picked up in the cop car and taken to the police department because i didn't have an idea on me i guess

00:50:39.700 i lost it and they thought that i was walking around and you know propositioning and uh i get taken

00:50:47.060 to the police department in las vegas and i'm sitting in the cell room and i i see this one lady by the

00:50:53.380 toilet just staring a hole through me like i was just like oh my god i'm so scared and then uh this

00:50:59.120 other lady was just kind of lurking as well and finally i was just like oh god i hope they come in

00:51:05.080 and like figure out i'm a real person and i'm you know and they don't because they were checking my

00:51:08.240 criminal record to see if you know anything came up and sure enough the guy's like all right you can

00:51:12.800 leave he's like get let me get you out of here and i was like oh he's like just don't do that again

00:51:16.620 and i was like all right and i walked right back to my brother's place don't do what don't walk

00:51:21.760 outside don't be a woman in public i like yeah be cute yeah hold on just a sec stop the cap the

00:51:29.160 only standard is the cash hits the table or the credit card clears remember men do not pay hookers

00:51:35.480 to stay they pay them to leave oh that's what the guys at the poker games would say opinion though yeah

00:51:42.180 opinion that is um i wonder how many sex workers that man has paid grid one motorsports how many

00:51:49.300 how many has it been um to be fair to grid one he he's trying to spice to show up yes yeah apparently

00:51:56.120 it's extremely boring according to grid one yeah let's let's spice it up so yeah let's do it

00:52:02.920 you said you were arrested a couple times oh goodness 25 times 25 times 24 times as an escort

00:52:09.360 the first one was actually solicit you know that cop show remember that yeah you know what you're

00:52:16.260 gonna do i beg the vice not to put me on that show my parents no oh but the person that started

00:52:22.500 that show is the first person that ever arrested me bill young and with my friend roxanne and it was

00:52:30.300 really embarrassing but they solicited me and the money was on the table and then when i got out from

00:52:37.820 the bathroom because of course we have to make sure the room's safe he had his badge right where

00:52:42.780 his parts were oh he had no clothes on i was like what are you doing that's so inappropriate yeah

00:52:49.260 that's really so anyway all that to say you know going going to jail was like i was bawling my eyes

00:52:54.960 out i'll never forget what i had on i had on a bb sweater with a little like patent white leather

00:53:00.920 heart with patent leather white pants patent leather beautiful heels with studs on them you

00:53:07.480 guys i look like a dynamo that night and i was so like mad because it was my first call and it was

00:53:13.640 at the stardust hotel you guys i'm gonna cry because i love the stardust hotel it got blown up

00:53:18.560 all the times that you got arrested how um it was all for solicitation prostitution and loitering

00:53:25.800 for solicitation which most of it was all like the vice would see me and if they saw me at another

00:53:31.140 hotel they would just pick me up and take me downtown what about you guys have you guys been

00:53:35.020 i've been in prison for for fighting for fighting my mine a lot of mine is um have has just been for

00:53:43.140 fighting yeah okay um never in the club or from the industry though this was all like teen shit but

00:53:49.320 then i did have to go to prison for like six months and that was horrific it was it was really bad

00:53:54.560 um didn't do much didn't didn't reform me because i literally started stripping after that so

00:54:01.100 alice what about you wow no i got detention once oh okay

00:54:06.000 wow hardened criminal hardcore hardcore so a lot of you it sounds like you do the you do the escorting

00:54:15.900 or did the escorting there's the ranch work have any of you done uh i don't know what the appropriate

00:54:21.760 term is like street walking yes no i coach a lot of street walkers on how to street walk no on uh

00:54:29.620 women who have done that and now are transitioning out and wanting to know like what's going on with

00:54:36.000 them so no yeah i did um was that when you begin you at the start or um it was in the quarantine

00:54:43.220 i walked the streets of reno and i went to the streets of reno yeah and i i i remember at the

00:54:49.180 time like i felt like i don't know i was kind of like you know rock and roll like i was kind of like

00:54:54.580 wild and i was i just i had this trench coat this black trench coat and i'd walk the streets of my

00:54:59.180 trench coat i'd go down to sandy trench coat black trench coat i had black typical that was my typical

00:55:05.080 yeah i had a i had a fishnets no fishnets i had black leather uh like pants and then i had this

00:55:11.740 black trench coat and i had this dark eye makeup on were there specific streets that you can go to

00:55:16.760 where it's kind of known downtown san diego i i did this was in san diego in san diego so you're

00:55:21.660 just a character in the matrix yeah i know yeah i was it's so funny because the there's a there's

00:55:27.040 actually a hooker in grand theft auto and at the time because i dark hair she looked like me

00:55:30.780 exactly i was gonna say best gta life right over there yeah you'd just be walking and someone

00:55:35.620 would like pull up in the car be like they what how's the process go walk me through it so they

00:55:41.120 would um they would typically i never got in cars um but typically it would be people walking like on

00:55:47.520 the street so i would be walking like around the corners or anything or kind of going into in and out

00:55:53.180 of like 7-elevens or something and uh they'd walk and say hey where are you going i said i don't know

00:55:58.880 what you know what what where are you going and then you know i and then they'd say oh well you

00:56:04.760 know we're going back to buddy's place i was like okay what do you do like you know and try to vet

00:56:08.740 them and then they're like oh well you know would you like to come up and i'd you know and then that

00:56:15.020 would be how it would go and then sometimes i'd go into strip clubs and i would sit in the strip club

00:56:20.280 and like dressed up like as like in in a really nice like outfit and they're like oh do you work here

00:56:26.040 and i'd be like i used to and oh wow i'd pull them out and i almost got banned from a club for doing

00:56:31.540 that that's controversy with strippers and yeah coming in it causes a lot of fight because chaos

00:56:37.220 i had uh left with like a couple guys and i think the club was starting to recognize it and so they i

00:56:44.180 saw the owner just kind of lurking and i was like i better stop and and then i would go into my strip

00:56:50.000 club yeah it turned out when i was dancing i would go into my strip club and i would go with

00:56:57.180 the intent of pulling someone out within an hour that's okay like i would yeah i would do that too

00:57:01.560 but but then i was just like oh but then that's what led to the like behind enemy lines type of

00:57:05.880 shit yeah and i had the trench coat i would always wear the trench coat because i was okay so you'd be

00:57:11.260 walking down that was it like a specific street and you said downtown san diego downtown right by the

00:57:15.940 bars and so but like when the the guys would come up to you yeah and so did they i assume that they

00:57:21.580 knew that you were i think they were just trying to be just friendly they were just hitting on me

00:57:25.720 point in the conversation would you be like by the way i charge x amount um well so they'd be like

00:57:31.680 where they they would first say where are you going and i was like oh i'm just you know i don't

00:57:36.320 know might be headed home and then where are you going and then they'd they'd be like oh well if you

00:57:40.780 want to and i was like i don't know and they'd be like i'll take care of you like usually they

00:57:44.220 would say something it could have been the trench coat not to interrupt but it's when i moved to

00:57:49.140 los angeles i was like shocked at the level of prostitution that was happening because where i

00:57:57.000 came from it was like very looked down upon to escort if you were dancing and whatnot when i came like

00:58:02.280 you'd be surprised at how many people just know like it's so normalized it's wild okay i think i just

00:58:08.200 had the vibe because like but at least for your situation i mean if you're in these environments

00:58:12.200 like you said you'd go out in the nightlife district or whatever yeah like it's an

00:58:16.540 expectation almost like people just know that there's gonna be hookers there oh and i think

00:58:20.520 like the way i looked at them too like i'd look at them a certain way and then they'd be like yeah

00:58:24.480 i'd like what's the look show me the look oh okay i can't do it i can't look into this camera

00:58:32.060 right here everyone's an escort though that i know this camera this camera oh that camera

00:58:35.720 like i don't know i'd look at them a certain way i'm a little frightened i got a little frightened

00:58:41.360 i i try to just lock them in like you know like because like but if you're out in like a nightlife

00:58:46.100 district couldn't these guys just be coming up to you and not know you're processing they're just

00:58:50.320 hitting on you and they could and then and so i would deny them once so so you deny them once

00:58:54.900 and then after you deny them they try to be like oh are you sure i'm like yeah i don't know

00:58:59.460 what if i you know took care of you a little bit and then that's when i knew that they would say

00:59:04.680 that yeah so you just you'd knock them down it would never occur to me if i'm like trying to hit

00:59:08.640 on a girl and i don't know well then then you'll meet people who like it's not a thing and so like

00:59:13.760 you'll you'll proposition them and they'll be like what the hell then again i've never yeah it's not

00:59:17.520 like propositioned before and i'm like what the hell like that's what happened to me when i first

00:59:23.400 moved to la i was like what the fuck i'm like oh sorry i don't know if i know it's fine and i'm like i

00:59:27.760 don't know i'm like i'm not this like i'm not an escort you know it's very very very normalized okay

00:59:34.200 like uncomfortably normalized okay i see it so you've never done like the car comes up thing

00:59:40.900 no because i i didn't want to get trapped in a car with someone i've had cars but where would you go

00:59:46.360 then um watched monster oh they would go to a hotel i'd say can you book a hotel room and they'd say

00:59:50.900 yeah and then they'd book it really quick and then they would do it and these were in my my wilder days

00:59:56.360 wilder days one other rock and roll so how does that conversation look like okay some dude yeah

01:00:02.920 walks up he knows you're you're an escort yeah um i'd be like what's the are you are you the guy or

01:00:13.980 are you uh oh yeah okay he just told you okay you gotta pay to play wait no i oh no he i would just

01:00:21.980 say okay well i mean he would he would pretty much proposition he'd say oh well if i take care of you

01:00:26.400 and i'm like you know you got x and we could do for x amount if you get a hotel and he'd be like

01:00:30.800 all right and just book it right there on on his phone and then we'd walk up together i'd see and

01:00:35.480 then i'd leave okay gotcha and did you have you two done any i've never know what about i have the

01:00:41.680 first time i ever got paid okay my girlfriend flew me to hawaii and it's very known there i don't know

01:00:48.740 if it is right now there's a couple streets i think that everybody walks and it used to just be

01:00:54.640 it would be regular girls like me just young girls and then there was a lot of i don't want to use the

01:01:00.260 wrong word you guys well if they're not regular girls what are they i mean i call them they they were

01:01:06.320 they were sex workers but they i don't like to say that word either it's okay oh you guys this is

01:01:13.540 really nice okay they were men dressed as females oh okay i don't want to yeah i don't want to say

01:01:19.900 it offends a lot of people but we we called them trannies okay and so back in the day there was a

01:01:27.380 major competition too by the way but i only did that for about two weeks because i never jumped in a car

01:01:34.100 so that that would have freaked me out no cars we would just meet japanese men and we we would say

01:01:39.860 and they would get you know their hotel okay it means would you come and play with me

01:01:49.540 come have fun with me you know sounds like a song let's go and so that i learned how to speak japanese

01:01:56.240 and we would not go with white guys oh any other race but i know this sounds so bad you guys but

01:02:05.680 only japanese men only the japanese that makes perfect sense they were the safest this is the

01:02:11.140 way i was taught by the people that i knew back then my girlfriend my best friend her girl that

01:02:16.800 turned her out that was the way the clientele were because they had a lot of money it was the 80s

01:02:22.640 whoa the 80s we as united states were doing really really well in the late 80s so the japanese men had

01:02:30.300 a lot a lot of money the first date i ever turned was with my girlfriend and i literally took my clothes

01:02:38.760 off and the guy was done i was like okay that's how i got hooked into sex work because you're like oh

01:02:46.140 you know 500 bucks there was no agency fee and i was like this is way too easy because i was making

01:02:53.040 three dollars and 47 cents an hour you know at my normal job yeah and i'm like this does not compete

01:02:58.900 at all like this is a no-brainer i'm quitting my job can we do an inflation check what was 500 in the

01:03:04.040 80s it's double double did you adjust for that double yeah it's about double so you're making 500 back

01:03:09.720 then a thousand and it was so tempting to just stay in that space so did they pay in yen ever

01:03:16.260 yeah a lot and we would we would know what the yen was so for a hundred typically it was a hundred

01:03:22.040 thousand yen oh yeah so one million yen was like a thousand you know during the rates gotcha but it

01:03:29.500 was you guys it was so and i don't know about any of you ladies uh your thoughts because for me i'm

01:03:35.180 just gonna be blunt and honest i was after the money bottom line dollar dollar make me holla that's

01:03:41.540 all it was at that time like you are a man that is dumb enough to pay for sex this is what my thoughts

01:03:48.160 were because i was really main grant men beth then i remember we talked about this last time brian

01:03:52.220 i was so like embittered towards men so i was like if i can charge them yes vendetta is happening

01:03:59.260 right now and yes it was empowering yeah and i felt really like actually made me happy to be able

01:04:07.500 to control men's pockets with my looks yeah it was very addicting it's it's for me i wanted the sex

01:04:15.640 and i wanted like the intimacy like i was an infomaniac too i i wanted like to be i i didn't feel

01:04:21.540 safe like in my waking life and i felt like when i was intimate with someone i felt really safe

01:04:26.580 and and i was like oh this is comforting but then there's also money which helps me out so i would

01:04:31.560 kind of like linger a little while when i'd see him and then i'd be like all right well i better get

01:04:35.460 going like you know call me yeah yeah and and then and then that's going off yeah i'm like what

01:04:42.320 you're actually we're seeking with safety yeah safety yeah i would spend the night sometimes at

01:04:47.340 their at their places because i just didn't i just i wanted to be with them i was like i feel safe

01:04:51.980 here i'm getting fed i'm i'm i'm you know this is nice you know so i guess i have i have a question

01:04:58.480 do you so in the sex work industry do you see it as like an empowering thing absolutely yes it's a

01:05:06.740 form of shadow work it's it's a way for women that you have to understand a lot of like sex workers

01:05:12.640 shadow work i would say yeah legal sex work yeah legal what is shadow shadow work is so it's

01:05:19.120 basically say you have a disempowering like childhood like something really traumatic happens

01:05:24.260 to you um you start forming all these beliefs in your subconscious mind and that's what ends up

01:05:30.080 leading you in your adult life so for me like i have an extremely traumatic childhood i know that

01:05:36.040 majority of the sex workers that i work with have really traumatic childhood so they they go to sex

01:05:41.280 work as a way to actually re-empower themselves from what happened to them when they were children

01:05:46.540 um just because like they they weren't valued by their parents it's like it's a lot of things so

01:05:53.700 like for her case can i use that yeah yeah so for her case it's safety so she was she had this

01:05:59.100 underlying desire of safety we'd obviously have to go into a session pick your brain and like

01:06:03.760 understand where this sensation of like not feeling safe came from but for her she was using sex work as

01:06:10.480 a tool to create safety in her adult life because that was something that um is like a wound within

01:06:16.620 her for me oh man i just finished watching the last three episodes 116 117 and 118 this is for

01:06:30.520 your ability to put up with all the bs that was said oh thank you died cow some of those girls even

01:06:36.480 still alive yeah uh yeah the last couple episodes were definitely pretty uh interesting shows uh thank

01:06:42.360 you swordless appreciate it man yeah that's why i had to hire this uh masseuse to uh you know help

01:06:47.860 help with the stress the shows have been so stressful okay um let me see oh i had a question um did you

01:06:55.540 want to finish your thing or it was just basically we we see sex work as a stepping stone i think where

01:07:01.900 it gets muddled and the perception that people see is like all of the the negative you know what

01:07:07.640 i mean and they don't see how it actually can be the stepping stone like i was saying like to for me

01:07:12.840 to god and to re-empower yourself um i think that women just get stuck in it too long sure so they

01:07:20.860 don't know when to like or they don't change they don't evolve they don't evolve you guys it's

01:07:25.240 even weigh in on the empowerment yeah i kind of wanted to ask um how you got involved oh sorry

01:07:32.300 we have to wait for this first selling sex is not empowering men get to have you for money

01:07:38.620 very delusional to think otherwise the attempt to spin such debauchery in a positive light is madness

01:07:45.500 so this this kind of gets to the point i wanted to make yeah um do you so as you're participating

01:07:53.980 participating in sex work you say it's empowering it's creating this safe space uh maybe it's i i

01:08:01.100 don't know i mean obviously i'm not in that i've never been in that space um do you really see that

01:08:08.400 all you can not all you can offer but what you offer right then and there in this uh very intimate

01:08:16.500 setting you're providing a very close connection with somebody that maybe you've known for

01:08:23.760 a little while maybe it's the first time whatever do you really see that as like you you can put a

01:08:29.380 monetary value on that and say that it's empowering why not put a monetary value on that we pay for

01:08:36.480 therapy we pay for doctors we pay for all sorts of professional expertise in our industry

01:08:43.360 why not pay a sex worker who knows what they're doing so yeah no i understand worship me when when

01:08:53.040 these clients come in these men are just so enamored and so gracious and so happy to have our company

01:09:01.220 and it is a win-win one strung my guitar the other day this is the most stereotypical panel

01:09:08.600 daddy didn't love me enough getting arrested for assault instead of sex closeted christian man

01:09:15.720 whoa he's a real he's a real one because he won't pay for dates um all right

01:09:22.820 okay the short answer is i i don't think you could put a number on our value and i think that

01:09:30.860 value is is immeasurable like all of us are intrinsically valuable so you can't put a number

01:09:37.280 on that but i think that there's a difference between value and a service yeah you know what i mean

01:09:42.800 i guess so i i i mean this is my opinion and i think this bears out in the science uh there i would

01:09:51.420 say there is no value being added and let me uh let me reinforce that so in the ability for somebody

01:09:59.660 to bond with somebody else so in a sexual um relationship the more sexual partners you have

01:10:07.380 the less likely you are able to bond with that other person actually there was a study that was done that

01:10:12.440 showed that ah what is it after 20 partners you are 16 times more likely to get divorced

01:10:19.260 what study was this yeah please please do tell no i can't i can't remember the uh i don't know

01:10:26.140 that probably proved that wrong tantra yeah and how old are you yeah that's the foundation i'm 27

01:10:31.420 you're 27 and you still haven't been able to tie down a relationship

01:10:35.560 well he doesn't desire to but that yeah supposedly yeah i mean i'm extremely picky with

01:10:42.340 who i am gonna involve myself with and that's totally okay and there's just as many people who

01:10:48.160 so aren't picky and want to have the experience yeah so i'm not saying into a relationship so i

01:10:53.580 understand i understand there is a desire so i know that people have the desire i am just simply

01:11:00.720 putting forward the evidence that shows that having multiple sexual sexual partners before marriage

01:11:06.900 hurts your ability to bond with somebody else and i'm not saying that i mean as as a believer i know

01:11:14.920 that that christ can he restores the soul so i'm not saying that it's impossible for someone to

01:11:23.480 be redeemed i'm saying that it takes a miracle

01:11:28.660 yeah and we're all possible of having that miracle and and i'm not saying this in a negative way but

01:11:35.400 it's like i don't think that it's fair to speak to something that you haven't experienced absolutely

01:11:41.980 that's that's slightly unfair i can i can sit here and say that uh certain atrocities in history were wrong

01:11:48.820 and not have experienced them so like you can take it to either side of the spectrum just because i

01:11:55.060 haven't experienced something doesn't mean i don't know truth so and what is true for you

01:12:01.340 in your journey that's that's interesting your god-given journey but what is my god-given journey

01:12:06.560 it looks a little bit different and it feels a little bit different than yours yeah okay well

01:12:10.760 so there is only one truth like i can i can say till i'm blue in the face that gravity doesn't exist

01:12:17.440 but gravity does exist i don't care what anyone says so there is an objective truth there are

01:12:23.700 universal constants there are scientific things that are just true so in uh so i believe that the

01:12:30.340 bible is the foundation for truth that is where i derive all of my truth from when i when someone says

01:12:37.440 something or when i start pondering things okay what does the bible say about this if the bible

01:12:41.780 teaches against it then that is objective truth and i must mold myself to that doesn't the

01:12:47.420 bible promote prostitution oh no it doesn't it doesn't promote it but the bible doesn't

01:12:52.260 necessarily it doesn't like i think there's some reject it it doesn't reject prostitution i don't

01:12:57.000 even make sense if anything sex workers are exceptional within the context of the bible

01:13:01.600 i think that we need to be extremely careful sex work is a form of mission work oh that's

01:13:07.260 oh yeah of no mission it's any time mission anytime jesus interacted with prostitutes in the bible

01:13:14.180 it was he treated them with love but he called them to repent he did he he told them get out of

01:13:20.840 get out of there's no but but going but going back to prior to let's talk about mary magdalene

01:13:26.880 why did all the kings okay but i'm saying it was okay with god uh i didn't there's no it's in

01:13:35.240 there i know it's in there i brought it to the candace owens debate oh no i i know that there are

01:13:40.080 people in the bible that were not those scriptures i i'm not okay can i answer of the me so horny

01:13:46.360 me love you long time i don't know why that's true i don't even know okay so the bible shows a

01:13:54.680 whole lot of sinful people who are imperfect so it shows a need for a perfect savior so it shows a

01:14:03.300 need for jesus so there are testament or new testament that you follow both it is the word of like all of

01:14:09.880 it's the word of god because the old testament's shadowy oh i know it's very shadowy the old testament

01:14:15.860 god yeah well so the old testament shows the need for a perfect savior it shows okay all of these

01:14:24.380 kings all of these men they are broken they are fallen and they need to be they need to be redeemed

01:14:30.720 none of these guys are perfect none of these guys are going to cut it i have a question and not to cut

01:14:35.060 you off but i just okay there's a statement and then a question the statement is i don't i don't believe

01:14:41.360 that anyone is truly a sinner right i think that we all have this mission like your mission was to

01:14:50.600 be brought up the way that you were our mission this is a part of our mission and and we need to

01:14:55.980 experience this this darkness okay so that we can understand the light and this is why i'm saying that

01:15:01.220 i feel like a lot of sex workers stay too long and they they go through the darkness but they don't have

01:15:07.120 the the cognizance because they're so used to their human patterns they don't have the cognizance of

01:15:12.720 listening to the calling of god within them what do you mean cognizance so they don't have the

01:15:18.060 awareness a lot of the time that that's like okay their human brain tells them like this is safe so

01:15:24.640 can i use you as an example yeah yeah sure so like it's safe for me to be here at the end of the day

01:15:29.240 every single human being craves one every being on this planet if you're to run towards a flock of

01:15:34.900 birds what are they gonna do you fly away they're gonna fly away why because they don't want to be

01:15:40.300 killed because they don't want to be killed they're seeking safety so every single human being on this

01:15:45.620 planet every being on this planet is seeking safety so if you go into an industry and it creates this

01:15:50.960 bubble of safety for you why leave it your human brain is always going to choose a familiar hell over

01:15:57.200 an unfamiliar heaven so yeah okay um i would say and we see this throughout the bible but it shows

01:16:04.260 the bible tells us multiple places that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of god yeah so

01:16:10.980 yeah yeah and that we are all dead in our trespasses and sins so that is that is what we do that is by

01:16:17.840 nature we are children of wrath yeah we are people who go against god and it takes god to save us to

01:16:24.960 transform our lives to make us more like him it's not something that i can just drum up so no i know

01:16:31.520 that yeah yeah so so and you see that throughout the old testament there are some horrible men it's

01:16:36.540 like there it's it's a wild place it's some rated r stuff hold on just lauren's typical gta hook a day

01:16:43.160 in the life is smash get paid then get batted and money jacked brian it's happened behind you she

01:16:49.760 stole my audio fingers what the fuck hashtag josian oh distro kid the last time when we were

01:16:57.380 josian amen the argument or the by the kind gentleman on the panel in the bible jesus says to the

01:17:05.660 there's something super weird going on with the tts uh yo lp thank you very much man yes and i do

01:17:11.000 recall that from the yes um did you i wanted to say that you know and i want to respect everyone's

01:17:17.600 opinion here i have my experience in the sex industry was in the very beginning empowering

01:17:25.380 but very beautifully the fuck i'd like to hear yeah alice i'd like to hear you to speak up um

01:17:34.280 well i have questions do you have something brief yeah because i'd like to really yeah i just wanted

01:17:40.080 to say that when you're referencing us i mean she's speaking for what she knows i'm going to speak for

01:17:48.340 what i know and what i've experienced and the empowerment part was very limited and very short

01:17:54.540 yeah yeah so that's kind of the point i was trying to make and so it it's very everyone's experience has

01:18:01.160 been different here at this table and i think that everyone has the i think they have a right to

01:18:06.060 say yeah no i i agree i want to hear context i mean this is this is a very rare situation for me

01:18:13.180 where i can sit across from people who are very different but you know what makes you a real one

01:18:19.380 makes him a real christian is there's hope i feel like the ones with no hope if they're like guys

01:18:23.820 guys guys stop let her speak please yeah sorry oh go on no no no okay the the thing that makes him

01:18:32.300 a real one is is i feel like a real christian at least has some hope like it's not like oh my god

01:18:37.440 sorry you're stuck it's just like you know hey like you know that there's gonna be sure respectful

01:18:41.880 yeah yeah because candace isn't a real christian i mean you know i i also yeah i'm like that i don't

01:18:48.680 care so they're yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean it's it's important for christians one to be respectful

01:18:56.240 like we are called to love but we are not called to uh promote or accept sin so like i'm not going

01:19:04.880 to sit here and be like i approve of your guys's lifestyle i heavily disapprove but i see you are

01:19:11.160 created in the image of god and i respect him so he has infinite value so and he has bestowed that

01:19:17.180 value upon yourself so if anything i see it as like the thing that makes sin so sinful is that it

01:19:24.180 is it is especially sexual sin it is a sin against your own body so it's sinning against something

01:19:31.320 that is infinitely valuable that's where i see the tragedy because i see like there is so much value

01:19:37.020 and that's why it just is distasteful to me but anyway i know brian you want to move on yeah i just

01:19:43.400 want to make sure i get this chat in just because uh it's about to fall off we have derek the trader

01:19:47.620 question for the ladies if a young woman approached you for advice on entering the escort industry

01:19:51.960 what would you tell her so we'll start with olivia we'll go around the table try to keep

01:19:55.700 brief answers if you can go ahead um i would advocate that they go and um gain their training

01:20:03.920 at a legal brothel i would um i'm not going to state which but i i have my favorites and in terms of

01:20:10.800 ethical um decision making and business practices and i would send them there for for training and

01:20:16.020 and understanding i would be happy to be their mentor and um invite them to to join join our squad

01:20:23.980 and and gain knowledge from us we've we've all talked about this how we could you could be of use

01:20:29.980 in the spiritual sense you are fantastic at branding and business um i can assist you know in terms of

01:20:36.920 physical health we've all we've talked about being kind of a hub together and also um the the business

01:20:42.340 aspect in terms of just being able to manage your money and invest financial literacy offering that as

01:20:49.060 well okay i'd say uh before um i wouldn't i guess necessarily recommend escorting or or you know sex

01:20:57.360 work to anyone i mean obviously i would say like okay if you're really going to do it do a legal brothel

01:21:00.700 you're gonna be safer and safe um but uh i would say try dancing first see if you like it see see

01:21:08.240 how it goes and if you like it then legal brothel i would not recommend it whatsoever

01:21:14.500 i would not recommend it only because if you're questioning it then it's just not for you

01:21:21.540 a lot of the women who are led into that industry are literally led into that industry and it's not

01:21:26.180 something you question sure it's just something you do i think it really depends on the individual

01:21:31.820 and what their motivations are for getting into the industry have they considered the risks the

01:21:37.660 benefits what this means for them long term and short term how this is going to impact their life

01:21:43.340 sex work is work but it is also realistically stigmatized work so i would really encourage someone

01:21:49.380 to sit with it pause and think about all of those things and do their homework and research

01:21:54.840 before moving forward intentionality is everything your why really matters in this industry sure

01:22:01.740 so another question i have going around the table with for everybody i want to know total clients

01:22:08.400 you've had oh i don't even we don't know i think i already said a thousand how much i think i already

01:22:16.040 said like a thousand in my 10 years yeah 10 years yeah i'm just curious like how many total clients

01:22:21.040 i don't know if you give us a range a range a thousand plus maybe a thousand plus two thousand

01:22:28.700 plus i don't know i i don't even pull out the receipts

01:22:32.440 why would you ask well that's a different question that body count it's a different question

01:22:43.360 the body count because body count that extends to your your uh sex life outside of your work

01:22:49.140 i'm curious just your total clients that you've had so within the profession probably a thousand

01:22:54.320 plus two thousand plus ten thousand five thousand i'm just curious olivia i'm curious i'm curious i gotta

01:23:03.460 know i've seen a lot of people i've made a lot of connections i've motivated a lot of fun

01:23:10.840 yeah yeah okay five thousand plus give us a number you gotta give us a number olivia can't

01:23:18.580 we have a range i yeah range is five thousand plus what if it that could be that could be ten

01:23:25.120 thousand a million a million times when like so there's been times you know in the very beginning

01:23:30.180 when i first got in and then it was more volume and then i decided i wanted to be a travel companion

01:23:36.020 yeah i was only going out with like five guys for a couple years and we traveled and and that i i

01:23:43.020 made a weight that was fantastic i made a ton of money that way more money and we did vacations but

01:23:48.660 that was only with five guys for several years i like that restaurant that's a good restaurant

01:23:53.020 yeah um okay well so total clients total clients come on olivia olivia you guys are maybe i don't know

01:24:05.080 two thousand plus well over okay do you think it's two do you think it's two thousand plus likely do

01:24:09.600 you think it's three thousand plus i'm not sure so it's somewhere between two and three thousand

01:24:13.460 yes because i have had a lot of regulars i have regulars of like 10 years oh no so i wouldn't i

01:24:19.460 wouldn't count you can't count them i wouldn't count repeats you can't collectively have over

01:24:25.080 nine thousand clients that is an a plus reference a plus maybe actually maybe okay thank you bender

01:24:35.040 the offender yeah so so lauren is it laura lauren i always get a confusion is it a thousand plus two

01:24:43.620 thousand plus three thousand plus i mean i guess a thousand plus because if i said a thousand like

01:24:47.040 a couple weeks ago then but you know if it's because a thousand plus that could be two thousand

01:24:51.600 plus right so do you think it's between a thousand and two thousand it's got to be with

01:24:56.700 between a thousand and like one thousand like you got a list one hundred no some of them didn't

01:25:03.020 deer die yeah deer die today uh annie what about you yeah i got i got beat up for this last time

01:25:12.540 remember we did this i did documentary on some a couple years back about that very number and

01:25:21.040 i could not really remember i said ten thousand at first but actually when i look back now

01:25:25.840 about thirty thousand okay because i worked every single day of the year and it was a competition

01:25:33.340 me and the other girls is pimps i mean we were all trying to make the most money yeah and yeah it's

01:25:39.660 about 30 and i don't know how many repeats those are because i had a lot of regular clients a lot of

01:25:44.860 repeat clients oh did you guys have your own like like you know like you know areas or is

01:25:50.660 oh no it was escorting oh gotcha okay okay okay okay we call it walking the carpet yeah oh okay

01:25:55.540 walking the carpet we call it yeah and that's on the walking the park yeah we we don't walk the

01:25:59.920 street we walk the carpets gotcha okay and that's if you're in between calls it's better on the knees

01:26:04.020 like to well i mean it's more comfortable for your feet like you literally sometimes would take

01:26:09.460 your heels off the end and not use your heels anymore but yes walking the carpet was you know

01:26:15.060 it's really weird okay there's a hierarchy and i know we we talked about this earlier a little we

01:26:18.340 touched on at the hierarchy streetwalker a stripper escort or i'm not yeah no no yeah where do you put

01:26:24.420 ventriloquist on that list okay so that's a whole nother level of a of a have any of you guys seen a

01:26:30.040 ventriloquist what's that wait that's a special yeah yeah i thought it was sexual too i'm like

01:26:37.680 what's that is that a new service uh char charlie yeah charlie yeah i loved him i wanted to i wanted

01:26:44.300 to be able to but anyway but so there's hierarchy so there's well i don't like to say this street

01:26:50.360 i don't want to hurt anyone's been noticed i'm not and s i'm sorry exotic dancers and if you called

01:26:57.060 me a stripper i would get mad at you i'm an exotic dancer don't call me a stripper yeah they'd get

01:27:00.840 mad you know yeah and then going they yelled at me yeah escorting and then no i'm not an escort

01:27:05.460 i'm a call girl what are you talking about i'm okay i am not a streetwalker i'm a call girl in fact

01:27:11.200 i'm a high class call girl because i saw nothing but at the very end i worked for the casinos the

01:27:16.900 concierge i worked for nothing but people that no one knew about that were calling the escort

01:27:21.400 services that was on the down low so yeah yeah strip clubs would even call and yeah and i hated

01:27:28.500 the strip clubs because they were our competition yeah and they took a lot of the money yeah there

01:27:32.660 was less i'm like the guys would always want to go to the strip clubs strippers and we would fight

01:27:37.100 each other bartender yeah it's like better than you really misplaced yeah how many clients have you

01:27:42.320 seen i feel so vanilla i feel like i because it was something that i didn't really enjoy like i was just

01:27:49.160 like oh mental health like could go without it okay um i'd say under within escorting maybe

01:27:56.700 under 20 oh okay yeah i was like very vanilla with it okay alice what about you it all depends on how

01:28:04.120 you define body count are these the people i have been with but does that extend to the people that

01:28:08.640 those people have been with no when you think about risk however and this is something i think is

01:28:14.260 important to touch on here when you're calculating who are you being intimate with you also have to

01:28:19.720 consider who are those other people being intimate with that is true we are professionals that are

01:28:25.220 tested every seven days we are the most tested individuals on the planet nobody receives the

01:28:31.800 same level of std and sti testing you should be a politician we quite literally are professionals

01:28:42.540 though so when you hear these large numbers also understand that we are routinely being tested we

01:28:49.080 are very risk aware we're using condoms and dental dams as required by law dental dams this isn't just

01:28:55.540 like random hookups at a bar where people are having active no i'm just asking total clients

01:29:02.040 yeah i'm just asking total clients i mean easily over three to five thousand easily easily without a

01:29:08.780 problem easily it doesn't really matter because we are doing so in a professional context would you

01:29:15.760 not be nervous if your surgeon's like i've operated on five whole people i'd be like no thank you get

01:29:23.080 away from me with those tools i don't trust you and your experience yet so i think it's a good thing

01:29:29.040 do you oh well i think well are you're saying within the context of seeing a sex worker you would want

01:29:38.220 somebody who's experienced a professional absolutely yes like do you think that's why people are paying

01:29:43.420 five grand oh my god i have learned so much in my experience over time from when i first started in

01:29:50.520 this industry and i give a much better experience now as compared to back then everyone's looking to

01:29:55.880 the difference between quality versus quantity and everybody has moved away from the oh i want to see

01:30:01.900 more people and instead everyone's focused on oh i want to be more selective more choosy and it's a

01:30:07.820 very different experience as a result of that sure that only comes from experience no well i do have kids

01:30:14.080 i have 26 kids but they're all goats maybe goats are they the tiny ones alice no i have full-sized

01:30:21.240 goats they weigh like 200 i love goats i don't know if i i don't know if the comparison to you'd want a

01:30:32.180 surgeon who's had a lot who's done a lot of surgeries they're more experienced therefore i don't know if

01:30:37.720 that's an apt comparison because couldn't you make the argument that for example a woman who is prepared

01:30:43.560 to sell her virginity could could command a much higher rate than for a one-time sex session than

01:30:50.280 for example a just a prostitute that's been prostituting actually no that is a myth that is

01:30:57.940 something i don't think that's a myth no it is something that has been actively attempted i mean

01:31:02.020 the legal brothel multiple times what happened we have done like someone coming as a virgin auctions

01:31:07.880 where they have attempted to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars potentially for someone's

01:31:12.420 virginity so they were and in fact that virgin didn't really have a very easy time of making

01:31:20.540 that a successful option people weren't actually oh they weren't bidding on it i don't know i don't

01:31:25.720 know if i would go to a brothel interest for a virgin oh yeah like do i really believe you

01:31:31.240 i mean i would wonder if it seems like a con i would be i would wonder if there's some sort of

01:31:35.940 fraud going on how could you prevent supposedly there was a doctor's i was a virgin last night

01:31:40.300 well oh no this is part of it they did like a doctor's check really girl back in the day

01:31:47.160 i mean but what is she's using tampons alice she had no oh my god tampons definitely don't make

01:31:53.320 you a virgin yeah i mean i'm just saying i think virginity is an energy and i think it could be

01:31:58.280 renewed i kind of like that wait what yeah virginity can be renewed i think that virginity

01:32:03.620 is that's a lot of energy i mean you can't renew that i was a virgin in christ when i married my

01:32:11.940 husband we didn't have sex i mean i think virginity is an energy sorry nick sorry like yeah if you've

01:32:19.140 had sex in a way that isn't consensual for the first time and then you're choosing to have sex

01:32:25.180 for the first time consensually i am choosing to now have sex that is the first time that you are

01:32:30.720 having sex correct i agree yeah sentence yeah anything before that should not be considered in

01:32:35.520 violation of that yeah if somebody yeah that's that's an extreme situation yeah extreme but it

01:32:41.160 happens though so it's like if you have consensual sex you're no longer a virgin yes once you choose

01:32:48.100 that's so i think that i'm not sure if that's what she said yeah but go ahead so i don't like to i so

01:32:54.600 yes there is a side of me that says okay there is redemption in christ i have said that many times on

01:33:00.280 the show but i can't i hate the rhetoric that is often peddled by people who have made choices in

01:33:10.440 their life that are in so according to the bible or in their own estimation not okay like i wish i

01:33:18.920 wouldn't have made those decisions but then they try to absolve them and pretend like oh but that's not

01:33:24.160 that's not me anymore so all of it just goes away all of the baggage all of the like all the

01:33:30.040 negatives like all of the things that are going to be carried into my future relationships like

01:33:36.380 that's not me anymore so that it shouldn't even like enter into the equation like that's not going

01:33:42.800 to have any bearing on our relationship like all of my past sexual experiences if it has a bearing on

01:33:49.360 your relationship that's a personal choice like if you're triggered by the fact that a girl that you

01:33:54.780 you know marry has had ex-sexual partners that's your choice to be triggered by that so

01:33:59.780 it's yes it's a choice but it's also an objective fact like there are physical emotional like

01:34:06.280 spiritual ramifications for the choices you make regardless if you want to acknowledge it or not

01:34:12.280 not saying you don't acknowledge it but a lot of people they have this very um what's the phrase i'm

01:34:21.900 trying to look for it's instant gratification and then no uh oh gosh i feel like what you're speaking

01:34:30.720 to is by is bypassing so like someone who hasn't integrated their experience and is bypassing like

01:34:36.500 oh yeah like whatever i did that versus someone who's done the healing work and who's been able to

01:34:41.900 come into a space of understanding like god's um value like how god values them yeah um and then also

01:34:49.900 someone who's been able to just own their experience yeah like so i i remembered the word it's so having

01:34:56.960 all of these things in your life that are going to damage future relationships but refusing to take

01:35:01.860 accountability for those bypassing yeah yeah so refusing to take accountability for those things that

01:35:06.740 have happened like yeah i have had relationships where i'm starting to talk to a girl and she'll like

01:35:13.700 okay this is a decent looking dude um like green flags and then all of a sudden i'll bring something

01:35:20.060 up that i'm like i have a strong opinion about and i'll be like these are my like this is what i'm looking

01:35:25.720 for in a wife um this is like i want to be her to be a mother all these things and then

01:35:31.560 the conversation will start to come up where it's okay i understand this person has a past and i want to

01:35:40.840 communicate to them that's not a deal breaker i want to understand where you're coming from

01:35:44.520 let's work through that together and a lot of girls are turned off by that really it's just

01:35:49.960 well it's because it's not the one that's for you yeah yeah i i totally agree i agree so i so i would

01:35:58.280 say that a lot of girls are turned off by that because they don't want to be accountable for what

01:36:03.600 they've done and they don't want to go through the emotional or in relationship work to be able to

01:36:08.940 work through that yeah and to develop a good healthy relationship of what they've done and

01:36:14.100 you should make them feel that way and i know have some guys they're they're they are turned on by the

01:36:18.880 fact that i've been with other men they are turned on by the fact that i'm experienced i know men

01:36:22.860 that are turned on like they want other men to want me you know you have got guys like that like

01:36:29.320 and they're not necessarily clients i've just met my guys out on the dating beat um you know

01:36:34.140 everybody ticks to a different yeah i know what you mean everyone likes a desirable partner and

01:36:40.220 when you are with somebody who is desirable you then feel more desired but okay this panel is off

01:36:46.340 the charts there are very few high value that will want these women not to be confused with

01:36:52.680 high net worth men who pay for sex like they pay for parking oh my goodness they're in one my gosh

01:36:59.440 so yes anyway a couple days in manhattan yeah go for it this is this is my um my miracle but i don't

01:37:07.320 even want to say that because love it supersedes all sin and when christ came he dissolved that at the

01:37:17.620 cross yeah that blood dropping off that cross when it hit the ground it made me a virgin in christ

01:37:26.140 and for my husband to put that ring on my finger right here and tell me that i was beautiful that

01:37:34.060 i was chosen by him that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me no matter how many men i

01:37:40.220 have been with and how many horrible stories might come up in our relationship and me realizing yes those

01:37:44.700 are horrible stories but you are my pillow yeah because you are the man of god that i chose in

01:37:50.500 christ that sees me as a virgin in in your eyes and see his eyes are redeemed because he really believes

01:37:58.380 what jesus did yeah and when he looks at me i'm in that white wedding dress like billy says nice day for

01:38:05.180 a white wedding baby so i ask you guys a question what do you think that christ thinks about the

01:38:10.180 extraterrestrials oh i want to i want to i want to ask what do you think that christ thinks about

01:38:16.520 that he loves them we can get to that later but yeah i i wanted to ask you a question call that in

01:38:21.620 the bible like so as you started your marriage with uh what was his name again oz yes as you started

01:38:29.600 with your marriage with oz like did you have to like how was the relationship work that needed to be

01:38:35.820 done like so was there baggage from the experience you had as a sex worker like how was that unpacked

01:38:43.740 in your relationship was it difficult um like what did that look like oh what does it look like yeah

01:38:50.220 what does it look like yeah is it still an ongoing struggle it's everything and today i was listening

01:38:55.240 to one of my uh friends victor marx i'm gonna give a shout out to victor marx he had a very bad

01:39:01.400 childhood and he had a lot of trauma and one of the things that was done to him as a child was there

01:39:07.900 was a gun put to his head and it was click click click russian roulette so i had one of my exes do

01:39:13.540 that to me actually two but one in particular quite frequently did that to me and he would spin the

01:39:18.560 chamber so i got i got triggered and i started crying but here he comes over on the other side of

01:39:24.380 the hotel room to hug me and say it's okay just i mean letting me cry in that space because i forgot

01:39:30.820 about that memory and specifics yeah so it's a it's a daily thing but it's not unmanageable yeah

01:39:37.360 so and this is the point i was trying to make he loves me enough to exactly to do that to be that

01:39:43.320 man like hosea was ordered to marry gomer yep even though she was beautiful name in the bible gomer

01:39:49.640 as a woman yeah i agree yeah so that that's something that's it is important to recognize yes

01:39:58.060 there is forgiveness offered by christ but it doesn't absolve i mean so yes it absolves the

01:40:04.740 responsibility of your sin but it doesn't erase the ramifications like the work that you have to do

01:40:12.160 it doesn't erase like the issues that it's going to bring up in your life i'm going to speak to that

01:40:16.820 don't forget because i want to say this because don't forget what you want to say it's there that

01:40:21.400 is part of our relationship magic and i should say love and beauty and awesomeness and incredibleness

01:40:27.300 is the fact that we are together because he loves me because of my past too he married my past yeah and

01:40:36.480 my future and my current status so it makes him love me deeper and it bonds us closer i can't explain it

01:40:44.180 it's supernatural yeah it is so supernatural and i love it that he loves me enough to deal with me

01:40:50.860 and i deal with him because he's got trauma too yeah exactly i mean obviously he's a sinful man he's

01:40:55.340 going to bring stuff to the table that is not ideal but i guess as we're speaking to the audience like

01:41:00.960 there's not not everyone who's watching this is going to be like i'm a sex worker and that's going

01:41:05.700 to enrich enrich my future marriage yeah like so sitting here what's your message to people watching

01:41:13.760 like do should i seek after a sinful lifestyle so i might have a rich marriage in the future or is it

01:41:24.780 i need to obey the word of god and like honor what he commands me and that will set me up for a healthier

01:41:33.480 relationship in the future i think whoever's watching needs to first figure out why are they

01:41:38.680 seeking a relationship in the first place and love themselves first yeah first and foremost but

01:41:43.380 realize hey who created me oh if they're an atheist or if they believe in god figure out

01:41:49.480 what and who they are yeah and for me as a tiny little girl somewhere deep down in my soul i knew

01:41:56.720 i was created by someone bigger than me and that that's what settled me on my od date i mean yeah and

01:42:04.820 i don't want to force anyone to believe what i believe at this table or anywhere on the internet

01:42:08.780 but what i know is i have peace now i have joy i have the best life that i could have if i had not

01:42:15.980 lived that lifestyle i don't know if i would be where i'm at right now but i do know this period i

01:42:21.360 have the wisdom of a thousand years and when christ comes to rule with us for a thousand i'm gonna be

01:42:27.020 like i got you yeah yeah not bragging about myself this has gotten no like we all feel the love within

01:42:33.260 inside of me and i love all of you here because all of you have been through something including the

01:42:38.540 men and we all are hurting but we're also feeling the love and and the and the healing from it as well

01:42:45.020 yeah so i got some being a human ask the questions you have a son i will talk later you have i have

01:42:53.660 children inherited three children inherited with my husband kids i have a daughter uh if you ever

01:43:01.100 have sons or if you do have a son would you want your son to see a prostitute why not i wouldn't my

01:43:09.580 son has your son has he did see an he didn't see you did he so that might be that's no dude

01:43:17.180 sorry sorry that's not that's take it back do a take back i'm sorry before the show started like

01:43:21.900 what not to talk about it's a sweet home alabama button i think incest is actually on the table did

01:43:28.060 he with that did he was it was it like did you did he talk to you before sometimes he talked to you

01:43:34.700 before like like hey i think i'm gonna do it doesn't always hit yeah oh he did he talked to you

01:43:38.540 before those words what did how did that conversation go mentally um i just discussed that there's a way

01:43:45.020 to do it and i advocated that he would see somebody at the legal brothel and and make an appointment if

01:43:50.620 that's what he wanted to do and he um was in a relationship for a high school sweetie for years and

01:43:57.020 years and years and then they broke up and he said i think i'd like to go you know see a companion

01:44:02.780 and he did and he said well it was fun but okay over it he goes i'm i'm kind of a relationship kind

01:44:09.500 of guy and and i want to just get on with it and work and um he wants kids because so i had an art

01:44:17.580 studio um for several years and he managed it and he worked and we worked with kids and we did art

01:44:25.420 parties and he loves kids and so he's like you know eventually i'd like to be a father and um i'm

01:44:32.620 kind of a one person kind of guy and that was an interesting experience but i've taught him to

01:44:38.380 respect women period whether you know under under any circumstances and i've and i've taught him

01:44:46.300 about the courtesan and the history of the courtesan and um we used to be king shit back in the day we

01:44:52.060 used to be at the top of the totem pole and why that dynamic has changed it's the concubines

01:44:57.740 it's misogyny misogyny it's men wanting to be in control well that's what they they tried

01:45:04.220 labeling i would say well they had the concubines the kings what what specifically is misogyny what

01:45:09.900 like what what what are you talking about like like this like this guy over here mansplaining to

01:45:14.540 us that like we're all sinners and stuff and he's in a virgin and he's and he hasn't even had a

01:45:18.620 relationship wouldn't he be the perfect person to call you sinners mason you're a virgin yeah

01:45:29.420 oh i didn't know that don't you love you know that i know i'm shocked i didn't know i love it

01:45:34.060 not a born again virgin either that's really really cool that's beautiful i think it's beautiful

01:45:41.980 don't tell me what to do but don't tell me what you think is best for me you know i i just it's it's

01:45:46.540 not for me what why is he misogynist though that's why is he misogynist i i i don't need somebody

01:45:53.020 like coming on this panel like saying that like we we shouldn't be doing what we're doing like i

01:45:57.180 mean i thought you know like this is a very sex positive group of of ladies and um what we do is

01:46:03.420 very empowering and what we provide um is very positive and i have provided a lot of amazing

01:46:10.460 experiences for couples and men alike and the relationships that i've cultivated have

01:46:16.380 been been been very very amazing on both ends what they do what specifically did he say that you

01:46:22.860 object to um i i just feel like just everything yeah i mean i yeah i'm not even down with like

01:46:31.180 the biblical stuff and it's just it's not yeah okay but so what specifically did he say that was

01:46:36.940 misogynistic um i just feel like i'm not a sinner i'm not i'm not sinning by by doing my job i do

01:46:44.940 by being by being a provider yeah so um and that's something that you've you've even stated

01:46:50.380 you are a godly woman you are a very spiritual i don't think that it's sinning i think well isn't

01:46:54.700 premarital sex sinning yeah 100 but that's that's so okay so if the bible says sorry i don't believe

01:47:02.300 that i don't believe in the bible well that's fine it's horse pucky it's the bible isn't there are

01:47:07.420 aliens on this planet at this point guys we're seeing you we're seeing ufos where did the aliens

01:47:13.100 come from us olivia where is it the aliens come from come on and the scriptures that i busted out

01:47:19.180 on candace she couldn't did an alien probe you sat there like what olivia no sense they were so crazy

01:47:25.900 and she just said well um i could give you a bible lesson if you'd like one it's like cherry picking

01:47:31.980 and what about all the other religions have you had an experience with an alien back were you abducted

01:47:36.540 did an alien abduct you did you take world religion in college because guess what there's a gazillion

01:47:41.020 other religions that came well before christianity yeah so don't sit there and act all freaking

01:47:47.900 high and mighty like you know it all and you got it all figured out because you don't have it figured

01:47:52.460 out i'm curious about the alien experience what you don't have you saw you as a client

01:47:56.780 were you probed did you want to probe you is there not ufos guys i saw you not know that

01:48:03.900 you have to get to the bottom i don't know what they were probing i don't quit telling me like you

01:48:09.500 think olivia bentley olivia bentley olivia bentley olivia bentley confirm or deny was there an alien

01:48:16.700 probing this is the congress or on me you you talked there was a there's a you said there's aliens

01:48:23.660 there are aliens has have you a client that was you have a client you don't know we're all

01:48:31.260 aliens wait what i don't know what do you mean you don't know who i don't think so are you not able

01:48:36.460 to i was there probing i believe that there are aliens i think we know congress is already talking

01:48:42.140 about it they've already confessed like we know that that they exist i saw you doesn't that directly

01:48:47.660 like conflict with the bible parents of ancient you know years and i'm not saying like they're

01:48:53.420 there could probably i'm very spiritual i think christianity and aliens align there's something

01:48:58.300 else and i think there's very great that's very that's yeah what's the hold on speaking of this

01:49:02.700 i just but please don't tell me like it is what is the uh what is the religious the christian view

01:49:08.700 on extraterrestrial life forms uh yeah it's fair question actually so uh interesting you bring this up

01:49:16.780 the person who is who brought all of this into the public eye is the lead singer of blink 182

01:49:23.020 oh and so i'm a blink fan anyway um i know the people in the field by the way i know people

01:49:29.260 personally yeah oh please really good friends yeah yeah i i that worked i got tickets to go see them

01:49:34.860 this coming year but i mean i'm talking about yeah people that but anyway interacted with real aliens

01:49:39.580 um so oh yeah he and this is kind of like i agree with him on this he doesn't think that it is

01:49:47.820 interplanetary like they don't come from very far away it's interdimensional so so how we see this

01:49:55.660 in the bible is there is a spiritual war that is happening that we can't see there are spiritual

01:50:01.820 forces that we cannot see there are so there's a story i can't remember the prophet uh ezekiel

01:50:07.180 is it the lion i think yeah where uh so he's a fire sure it's a fire yeah so exactly yeah so he is

01:50:16.140 he is uh there is an army surrounding the city and he uh people are like how are we going to defeat

01:50:23.580 them what's going to happen and he says don't worry god is god is going to protect us and he can see

01:50:30.540 this massive spiritual army of angels ready to destroy the army in surrounding the city

01:50:37.500 and people can't see what do you think about spiritual forces that we can't see no this

01:50:44.140 sounds like anime now we gotta stop for a second okay so here like this is this is okay so you asked

01:50:51.740 me this sounds really fantastical where in the bible is it talking about invisible i feel like we've

01:50:59.580 strayed really wait whoa whoa hold up hold up hold up okay so we started talking about oh oh i love

01:51:07.340 the x-files please continue this so we started talking about how aliens were interdimensional

01:51:13.260 and you guys were all for that yeah the instant i the instant i said bible that's when it became like

01:51:19.180 i don't believe anything you're saying even though it's a story in the bible it's the prophet ezekiel

01:51:26.300 here anyway so you're asking me you're asking me how like we're in the exact word for word where

01:51:33.660 it says about the invisible oh my gosh let's bring it back we're gonna you know listen aliens okay

01:51:40.060 maybe they exist i am let's let's stray away from the alien conversation yeah so like you you ask for

01:51:45.820 what i what the bible says about this i gave what the bible says about this and then you give me crap

01:51:50.380 for saying that but those are the words in the bible invisible like the word alien is in the bible

01:51:55.660 so okay okay anyway whatever king so i mean so let's move on let's move on the bible let's get

01:52:02.940 back to you said you said why why am i misogynist most of us hold on olivia you said that he's misogynistic

01:52:10.380 yeah first off can you what how do you define how do you define genistic i don't think he dislikes women

01:52:16.780 but um i i i find him um naive naive about the world and life and what and and you haven't even

01:52:25.900 lived lived it you know he's lived do you know how much he fucking benches

01:52:31.660 how much he's dead i actually just competed i totaled i'll tell you after oh great no no no no

01:52:39.180 i wouldn't tts tonight oh but what the fuck is going on dating show right right why fall

01:52:46.460 hookah panel teaches nothing about dating i date it teaches you more dates i date yeah it doesn't

01:52:52.540 work out but i date you're a modest jacama thank you i know we're talking about the bible we're not

01:52:57.340 talking about dating and we're not talking about that comes up and we provided to our customers i

01:53:01.260 thought this was going to be like a sex yeah yeah i mean i didn't know and not about uh bible bible

01:53:07.900 verses with with working time well the thing is like you asked me where it says that i'm going to

01:53:12.300 tell you like we're having a respectable respectable conversation yeah you asked me a question i'm

01:53:17.020 going to give you an answer yeah so yeah but uh to get go on uh how much i lift i have a 775 total i

01:53:24.940 just competed on sunday 775 kilogram total so it's a seven or a 573 squat a 419 bench and then a 716 deadlift

01:53:39.500 that's good that's good that's good i'm a lifter she lifts you understand yeah that's life experience

01:53:44.060 common ground start talking

01:53:50.460 so we can live together okay yes sure yes and and just a reminder let's try to just do one microphone

01:53:56.700 at the time guys um you said he was misogynistic first i just want to ask how do you define this

01:54:01.260 well i wouldn't say okay can i take it back how do you define how do you define how do you define

01:54:04.940 how do you define misogyny well okay i think he's a mansplainer how about that that's what

01:54:11.580 is what does that mean okay you're just telling us like how you have you know you i just feel like

01:54:17.500 it's so mansplaining i think i feel like being mansplained too yeah i'm 46 years old and i i've

01:54:23.580 lived a lifetime um and i've been around the world and back and i'm still very um happy in my

01:54:31.580 decision making as a sex worker i feel like you guys have been woman explaining to me the whole

01:54:36.860 night because you're telling me you don't understand how i feel you you have no idea what you're talking

01:54:42.780 about like we can't have a honest conversation if people are gonna say you have no idea what you're

01:54:50.780 talking about because of this thing you can't control your age like when i can i i can do a bunch

01:54:57.180 of reading i know so i know what the bible says but i don't just read the bible i have done my

01:55:03.020 research in history i am a i'm an engineer so i my mathematics and science are important to me

01:55:09.100 yeah and i say they point me to god they're they point me to order that there is a design

01:55:14.060 so it's not like i'm an idiot i'm 27 years old yeah so i'm not the oldest person in the world

01:55:18.620 but yesterday yeah i wasn't born yesterday and like i've i've dealt with hardship in my life

01:55:23.500 yeah i lived i've lived overseas i don't know if any of you have but i probably have that most

01:55:28.540 over most of you where so i can't i i yeah so yeah so i lived in north africa i lived in a third world

01:55:35.260 country so i'm south african well that's awesome so but like you we have to have an honest conversation

01:55:41.500 where we're not saying that like because you are not this your voice doesn't matter so because you're

01:55:48.700 not you're only 27 it doesn't matter what you say no no yeah be open to each other's opinions

01:55:53.980 that is your truth that is your life like like like you believe in the bible and you believe that

01:55:58.540 you should be a virgin and those are your beliefs but i was told that this was going to be a panel

01:56:03.340 that was concentrated on sex work just predominantly sex workers talking about sex work and sharing um

01:56:10.380 our experiences in the industry and i didn't know we were going to go off the rails on the bible

01:56:13.900 because that's not really applicable to to me so i'm not going to be able to really identify

01:56:19.100 sex work isn't really applicable to me but i can still talk about it yeah okay so okay yeah anyway

01:56:25.580 yeah you called him a misogynist what a mansplainer or then you walked it back to mansplaining yeah then

01:56:31.500 you walked it back to mansplaining well i i think there's yeah i i i don't think that he relates to

01:56:38.780 to to my perspective and i don't relate to yours yeah yeah and and so i would ask what are you what

01:56:46.700 are you getting at so how much time are we going to spend on the bible okay so we keep coming back

01:56:51.660 to this and i think we don't need to stay on the bible yeah how is he a misogynist because i keep

01:56:57.740 asking you i'm trying to move it away from well i feel like um um you know just maybe it's a cultural

01:57:05.180 shift and not necessarily like it's not saying necessarily you but um just um making sex workers

01:57:11.420 out to be um sinners and bad and negative um my my energy my my energy and my light has been very

01:57:20.060 positive and i've given that out to a lot of people and i've received it back and i have a lot of fans and

01:57:26.620 i have a lot of lovers and a lot of supporters and um positivity back and forth that is what i've

01:57:34.860 what i've given men and women alike and that's what they've given back to me encouragement um and and

01:57:41.420 those are the kinds of things i would think that you know as christians that's what you guys also

01:57:45.420 talk about that that's that's what you're supposed to be doing so i don't need somebody coming in here

01:57:50.540 and bringing some dusty old ancient bible and saying that you know oh you shouldn't be doing this and

01:57:55.340 this is bad and and and this is wrong and you know maybe for your for your life what are you

01:58:00.300 getting at so what are you getting at here what's the point here what so like all i'm getting from

01:58:06.060 this is like you like i'm not going to listen to you because i disagree with like i disagree with your

01:58:15.420 point of view therefore you have no merit in this conversation because i can't relate to it

01:58:20.700 whatsoever like i'm a human being like i i have had my life experience i've lived in multiple countries

01:58:27.820 um yes i may believe in the bible but like i can also bring like okay pieces of evidence and like

01:58:35.580 societally viewable um interactions with people of evidence yeah bring it about wait but you said

01:58:44.060 you wanted to move hold on stop yeah you said you wanted to move off from the bible but you keep

01:58:49.820 bringing it back to the bible i've asked you now i've tried to move the conversation to asking you

01:58:55.180 how do you define misogyny because that's a word that you used and i'm trying to so i think there is

01:58:59.420 an interesting thing that happens i think that at some point i think that misogyny came into play

01:59:05.820 that that made the shift from the courtesan who historically was at the at the top of the totem pole

01:59:12.380 they were the ladies that that paid taxes that owned property while the little woman was at home

01:59:18.780 and she wasn't even allowed to own property and she was toddlerized in in our history if you know the

01:59:24.540 history of of women in in history and then at some point there was a shift where that became a threatening

01:59:34.140 thing and and alice has a ton of information about that and i haven't heard her speak enough well so are you

01:59:41.020 saying that i want to hear some of the sex wait can you stop interrupting please are you saying that

01:59:46.620 it is misogynist that women that are or were in your profession used to be according to you revered

01:59:56.140 to some degree and now they're looked down upon is that absolutely how's that misogynistic though

02:00:02.220 because a man could also be a prostitute and i suppose that would be looked down upon also

02:00:06.380 hmm i think there's been a shift in culture where um men do hate on women men do broadly

02:00:14.940 speaking generally speaking that you know there's a negative view and a nasty viewpoint towards sex

02:00:23.020 workers that is ignorant how so how is it how's it ignorant what specifically is ignorant when you don't

02:00:31.420 when you don't get it because you don't understand don't understand what what do we not understand the

02:00:36.860 the service that we are providing for other human beings that is beneficial well i think we acknowledge

02:00:41.660 that you exchange sex for money i there's no i i do not lack understanding in that regard

02:00:49.820 so what specifically do i or does he not understand it's not just sex okay yes i acknowledge you also

02:00:57.980 you try to just summarize it as being sex for money but that's not what it is that literally

02:01:03.660 shows your misunderstanding of the entire conceptualization of what it is that we provide

02:01:08.620 it's that is by definition what a prostitute or an escort or whatever term you want to use hooker

02:01:16.780 sex for money that is the are do you disagree that that's the definition of somebody who absolutely

02:01:22.620 yes in the sense that it's not always about sex it's not only that even want to have sex at all

02:01:28.300 correct yes like that's fine sometimes just want yes i want to talk want to process no issue with that

02:01:34.300 held totally acknowledge that there are men then why are we considering it sinful or problematic or

02:01:39.580 something to judge or look down upon within society why do we have an issue that there's a profession

02:01:45.020 that women make more money than men the reason i don't think that's why people have an issue with

02:01:49.420 prostitution well then why do you think people have an issue with it well i'm sure there's a

02:01:52.940 whole bunch of reasons yeah a lot of people suggest well evidence shows there's damage the societal

02:01:58.700 damages that happen with prostitution please cite the studies yeah societal damage so as well so as

02:02:06.540 civil now we got into this last time but i know there are certain sticks about the benefits of legal sex

02:02:11.420 work let's go buddy i defended legal sex work and i will do it again right here right now i know my numbers

02:02:18.700 if you i'm not talking about so yeah we can talk about numbers you can bring up your numbers yeah

02:02:23.100 no it should be about statistics that is what let's talk numbers and let's talk sites and let's

02:02:27.740 talk sources because you're bringing it up what is your evidence go am i going to be able to talk

02:02:33.260 or are you just gonna go with with evidence i have a comment on after he's done why are you stopping

02:02:39.020 we're having you okay every time i start talking there's some there's some interjection you hear your

02:02:44.380 evidence yeah you olivia stop talking olivia you frequently just pause just pause oh my goodness

02:02:52.380 okay so if you look throughout history so specifically the greek empire the roman empire and the babylonian

02:02:59.420 empire when the pillar of the nuclear family of traditional relationships has been taken out in those

02:03:06.060 societies that is when they fail because there is there is a as children are raised in a normal

02:03:14.300 household with a mother and a father and it is a not a broken home you see the flourishing of society

02:03:22.460 and as those things are deteriorated you start to see societies fail so reference the babylonian empire

02:03:29.020 the greek empire and the roman empire so as we see american society and we can like i think we could

02:03:35.980 probably agree here that america is not as healthy as uh it's not in this healthiest state

02:03:42.300 it's ever been in like we have serious problems there are serious relationship problems so in the dating

02:03:47.980 marketplace i don't want to get very political but in the dating marketplace it's pretty garbage

02:03:52.940 right now okay so i think we can agree upon that so like we see that in in history as the uh as the

02:04:04.620 relationship between a husband and a wife has been deteriorated and destroyed we've seen societies fail

02:04:10.940 so as we see the relationship between a husband and a wife be deteriorated in our society

02:04:16.460 what makes that any different so like why do we think that we're the exception to the rule

02:04:23.180 okay so i'd like to discuss that yeah please please let's first start with what makes a quality

02:04:29.420 society would you agree that democracy and a fairness to how we treat people is part of

02:04:34.940 how a society should function uh i wouldn't say democracy i would say uh

02:04:44.300 how so how america was designed to run as a republic so not a pure democracy no we're not talking

02:04:50.140 about america i i wanted to talk about specifically when we talk about our very first historical piece

02:04:56.700 of evidence that we ever have in regards to legislation how society should run and operate

02:05:02.220 what kinds of things do you think were in that document so uh i think america is the most successful

02:05:09.020 country to ever exist we're talking about i know i know we're going to hammurabi's code here are you

02:05:13.340 familiar with this text i have not read hammurabi's code okay so in hammurabi's code it actually

02:05:18.700 specifically speaks as to how sex workers should be treated very early on in the text in our earliest

02:05:24.300 form of society sex workers were there at the beginning of society as a structural support within

02:05:30.380 society so what major power in the world right now bases their society on hammurabi's code

02:05:36.620 again you were talking about history here you brought up three historical examples of society so

02:05:42.620 let's talk about those historical things sex work has been with us since the dawn of time it's

02:05:47.580 something that isn't going to go anywhere we have historical evidence of it all throughout history

02:05:53.740 through every civilization all throughout the globe including in the modern day world you can't say that

02:05:59.340 sex work is the reason why society crumbles i'm not saying it's the only reason i'm saying it's it's not

02:06:05.260 a reason at all because it exists in every society at the beginning of societies including the beginning of

02:06:11.340 this society how do you think people were motivated to go out to the wild wild west it was the women

02:06:18.940 who ran and operated brothels right there literally in nevada many of the you're saying you're saying

02:06:27.500 the american expansion into the west is because of prostitution it was encouraged by it it was a

02:06:35.500 motivating factor for men to go out to the frontier it was a perk genuinely and truly it was a perk they

02:06:44.620 could get gold and what did they do with their gold there was only so many things that were available

02:06:49.580 in these towns and one of those things that were available that western and those things yeah was due to

02:06:55.820 prostitution it's not only that we were consulted upon by the people in the town when it came to how

02:07:04.060 the town that's a hot take it's not a hot take it's absolutely true history fact and tell them about

02:07:11.020 the madam that took care of all the um guys that were mining the gold and got sick what yes oh my goodness

02:07:17.420 she was in the brothels yes brothels converted into hospitals and certain points throughout history

02:07:26.940 trying to spin it is delusional at best you're likely a lie you tell yourself see this is a

02:07:31.820 misogynist right here the old book over anything you have to say grid one motorsports olivia says that

02:07:37.500 you're uh he's been on one olivia says that you're a misogynist that prostitution contributes to

02:07:42.620 breakdown of the family i have a question i have a question wait wait hold on yeah yeah because i

02:07:48.620 don't know what's going on with the tts i'll fix it for next show you use the word misogynist again

02:07:54.700 what is a misogynist oh this is i'll re-trigger i'll re-trigger it sorry doc i'll re-trigger it in

02:08:00.700 a sec what is a what's a misogynist what how do you define misogyny i would say that anybody that i

02:08:06.860 would say like men that that diss and hate women for for their their being it's men could a woman

02:08:15.500 be a misogynist potentially potentially yeah yeah i guess like against men or yeah against women too

02:08:22.700 actually there's female and there's themselves yeah yeah there's themselves yeah there is i

02:08:27.980 hold on let me let me let this one come in question that prostitution contributes to breakdown of the

02:08:32.540 family unit breakdown of the family as results in decline in mental and physical health

02:08:38.700 thank you doc for the source 995 present okay i have a very important statement make your statement

02:08:47.260 okay go ahead with the statement i don't know necessarily if if uh you know i don't have the

02:08:54.060 stats or whatever but if prostitution behind closed doors that's legal i don't believe that that can

02:08:58.620 contribute to the breakdown of society but you know what i do believe that can great

02:09:01.500 oh damn one sec i've never heard a person say that americans expanded west to get their johnson

02:09:08.700 the main reason is due to economics and land ownership never heard of that so anyways so

02:09:14.140 do you want to wait do you want to respond to bender the offender sure i'll happily respond

02:09:19.340 you said that west westward movement in the united states was holy fuck there's a lot of

02:09:25.740 the monks oh what did you have it muted nick he's legit making points about what is going on

02:09:34.860 just let us be you like slavery what no what absolutely not um because the monkey here i go

02:09:42.300 yes thanks to candace no i i so okay so anyway so so this is what i think is contributing the to the

02:09:49.660 breakdown of society the other day online i had posted a post on twitter because i was extremely

02:09:55.260 mad you know i if i was born into like a super like wealthy you know situation i might have had

02:10:05.820 an easier time becoming a family entertainer like in my lifetime i i definitely might have gotten a

02:10:10.540 better time but um the other day i was scrolling and all of a sudden i see this chick who obviously

02:10:17.020 has an only fans looks young you know like probably 20. she is there's pinatas in a latin grocery store

02:10:24.300 kids in the background she is lifting her skirt up in but what the pinatas were in the background

02:10:30.540 she's lifting up with a thong and i was like dude i was like i posted and i said i'm sick of seeing

02:10:36.700 this i said this is so disturbing i was like look if you got only fans do it in your house do it there

02:10:41.900 are people defending her and i was like you are literally warped like seriously like it's better

02:10:47.900 when it's done behind closed doors but literally that and i see i saw this this other lady and this

02:10:52.780 other lady in honey burdette lingerie on a like a little like you know this airport little tram trolley

02:10:58.700 things they weren't going to the airport but they went on there to get content and kids and families

02:11:03.260 were there and they were all like almost naked and like this is disturbing so only fans i feel like

02:11:09.500 yeah it not for everybody it you know it's it's negative but public only fans to get shock value

02:11:16.140 content that's what's ruining society and i believe those people should be ticketed yeah

02:11:20.540 normalizing only fans for sure yeah oh nick just technically that is against the

02:11:24.860 it's actually it's against only fans in terms of service yeah on everything it's actually against

02:11:31.500 only fans only fans terms of service uh you cannot share true public content on only fans you have

02:11:39.900 to tag everybody in the background friends porn is not real when you see somebody like in the grocery

02:11:49.180 store i promise you that is a set there are sets for all no this one wasn't a set i know but that

02:11:55.340 content they didn't even blur out their little colors in the background that's the problem is the

02:11:59.660 difference between the content creators who do not know any better versus the professionals again we're

02:12:05.900 going back to professional sex workers yeah foreign stars fall under the umbrella of

02:12:12.140 sex workers i do want to come back yeah that one of these chats came in yeah i think it was bender the

02:12:16.700 offender um western western expansion so manifest destiny that's a term i learned in

02:12:24.300 manifest destiny manifest sex you think it's it was because uh they wanted to manifest some

02:12:30.700 sex let me read a couple yeah hold on hold on yo just kidding brian i get it when you pick up

02:12:37.260 chicks from the streets of course you're bound to end up with these kinds of guests on the right

02:12:42.220 cool to see kermit the frog and miss piggy had a kid what what what kermit who i have i'm not sure

02:12:49.180 about who's wearing green no one's green that's from michelodians there all right we have am i

02:12:55.420 doc vanavis mason has a better understanding of the sanctity of relationships at 27

02:13:00.140 then you middle-aged sex workers his words not mine don't shoot the messenger here stop

02:13:06.140 dismissing him as youthful he has given you more respect than you deserve i said he was a real one

02:13:10.940 you're sick lauren lauren yeah yeah yeah i roughed you up a little bit all right no it's like my good

02:13:19.500 fellow it's all good yeah no i mean like olivia i don't take i don't take arguments personally a lot

02:13:24.300 of people have that they can't do that they cannot separate the conversation from how they think the

02:13:30.620 other person feels about them yeah so like if i'm saying stuff that you don't personally agree with

02:13:36.940 like most people i talk to they're gonna be like you hate me as a person because you disagree with

02:13:42.540 me yeah yeah that that's it destroys conversations i should be able to have like if i make a good

02:13:48.780 point i i want you to be able to say okay that's a good point i'm gonna mold this over i'm gonna think

02:13:53.420 about it because i know this person doesn't hate me and if you make a good point i want to be able

02:13:57.500 to mold that over think about it and figure out okay like maybe in a day or two i'll be like i should

02:14:02.380 have said this about that yeah it frames me like better as a person because i'm more intellectual i'm

02:14:08.940 thinking about things maybe i'll go read read on the topic like no you're that's good you are more

02:14:15.020 than your beliefs in the same way that we are more than just our professions we are all people at the

02:14:21.580 end of the day and i think it's important that everybody has a certain level of baseline respect for

02:14:27.900 each other period yeah that was beautiful no i i agree with that like i know you guys are not just

02:14:33.740 your profession i mean like you haven't been practicing your profession at the table right

02:14:38.460 now so i obviously there is an area where that's not part of what you're doing yeah get the rocks

02:14:44.700 so yeah all right get the rocks like to stone us it's about the woman oh yeah yeah doc doc vanablis

02:14:56.860 olivia i watched the candace interview she graciously gave you a platform she did not have to were you

02:15:02.620 expecting a puff piece you are an ungrateful and prideful deem demamonde

02:15:08.140 demamonde i don't know um confirm and deny are you a demamonde i'm not sure what that is but i just

02:15:15.340 know that the producer said we were gonna have an oxford debate on the decriminalization of sex work

02:15:21.740 yay or nay and i walked into a gotcha interview where they did the wrong background check on the

02:15:27.340 wrong person and she started out in the interview with your son doesn't even live with you he lives in

02:15:32.140 another state and went at me and talked about my son and went on a personal angle and and tried to

02:15:39.100 and put me on the spot and kept me in defense the whole entire time when we were supposed to talk

02:15:44.700 about yay or an oxford debate do you know what that is it's when somebody studies their sign some

02:15:51.340 their side they do their due diligence and then the other person does their due diligence and they do

02:15:57.020 their research because i was in varsity debate in high school and then you come together and you

02:16:01.660 debate the evidence evidence and she had why did you point to him why did you why did he has none

02:16:09.340 either i mean he's got i also i did varsity debate in high school as well i'm saying that respectfully

02:16:14.700 sorry for the point no no it's fine it's fine yeah yeah i don't know um i will i'll lift with you any

02:16:19.740 day perfect wait wait lift you have very good you got good vascularity by the way thank you

02:16:26.940 yeah can we see a double can we see a double bye see the double bye wait nick put it nick hello

02:16:31.660 i i work on the shoulder oh tries let's do look shoulders i don't know i'm looking a little oh my

02:16:37.260 god work there you have it all right let me get into some i'm gonna get into oh wait we got two more

02:16:42.220 chats i'll get into my notes here oh let's do twitch guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow

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02:17:15.820 slash whatever drops to follow drop us a prime sub we have conan 19. any is like the role reversal of

02:17:22.380 the me so horny me love you long time in full metal jacket i i've seen that movie full metal jacket i'm

02:17:30.460 not sure what that's hey soldier yeah all right we have conan 19 question for the panel do you have

02:17:38.620 clients that don't want to have sex yes oh yeah yeah all the time currently and there's lots of

02:17:45.420 people who can't have sex either let's not forget about the fact that not everybody physically can

02:17:50.540 have sex forget about that which i thought that when we were told we were going to come on here we

02:17:54.380 were supposed to bring on like our most like wild fun date that's that was at the talking points that

02:17:59.900 that we were told to bring on to the show oh so where was that are we i got my list here but you

02:18:04.460 keep accusing him of misogyny olivia i'm sorry well mansplaining maybe a little but yes yes

02:18:13.660 there's been some woman's planning going on as well yeah what do you think about that olivia there's

02:18:20.220 a little woman's planning maybe we can just maybe we can just like drop the name calling and then

02:18:26.860 just like talk about the issues yeah if we could do that that'd be just like let's get to the gist

02:18:31.900 let's get to the gist let's get to the meat of the subject yes the meat all right we have

02:18:37.580 okay let's stop saying i got grid war grid war pinky stop crying you got out class which is super easy

02:18:44.540 to do candace was very soft on you and just like you did here you played the victim be better right

02:18:49.020 help okay yeah right she like compared me to um uh what was that guy that got aids um oh charlie

02:18:59.580 she's all about false slants and and um false narratives and that was her direction from the

02:19:05.740 get-go she didn't take the time to get to know me she didn't meet with me before she didn't ask me

02:19:10.940 questions she had you remind me of charlie sheen really did she meet him charlie sheen a guy that was

02:19:18.060 like out of control banging everything but the kitchen sink and contracted aids on crack i am a

02:19:24.940 fitness competitor i am sober i've never contracted a thing i've done legalized prostitution very

02:19:32.220 carefully very responsibly i have bought i have this has been done nothing but empower me i have assets

02:19:40.060 underneath my belt i put my son through private school this has been very good for me yeah so to

02:19:45.740 imply and and if you thought that she wasn't going at it by trying to make that slant and and put and

02:19:51.820 and compare me to charlie sheen which makes zero sense yeah to not put the idea of disease and and

02:19:58.700 um addiction and negative false slants in your head yeah then you're wrong because she's very calculated

02:20:05.740 this is a woman who married a man who who owned parlor parlor is an anti-semitic think tank that brings

02:20:12.620 skinheads together with with not with a bunch of nazis and then sold it to stop it to kanye

02:20:18.940 with some help kanye west is mentally ill why would you take advantage of a mentally ill man for money

02:20:24.780 i never have in the industry you ain't got the answers man you ain't got the answers weren't they

02:20:28.940 friends you ain't got the answers you ain't got the answers i thought candace and kanye were friends

02:20:34.300 yeah yeah no yeah no she used him to buy the by parlor and parlor went on a business with within

02:20:39.580 a year like they didn't know it was tanking they get him to buy that that's oh what a christian

02:20:44.780 what a christian that is i like candace yeah well candace to be fair to be fair like we don't stand

02:20:50.780 we don't have slander how dare you slander how dare you slander my friend what is parlor do you know

02:20:57.260 what parlor is why why are we talking about yeah i mean to be fair like candace isn't here to defend

02:21:02.860 yourself so like and who really cares let's talk about what we came here to talk about

02:21:10.860 yeah let's let me get this to my questions let me get this to my questions and the benefits

02:21:15.900 let's give ryan back a show for his first second

02:21:18.060 let's uh okay all right here here we go let me uh

02:21:24.060 all right let's go to lauren here where you got lauren you work at the moonlight bunny ranch i do you

02:21:29.420 were i don't know if you were voted you said you're courtesan of the year i am courtesan of

02:21:33.660 the year yeah i think there might have been a alice was also courtesan of the year i think before

02:21:38.540 me right before me yeah for a couple years yeah oh oh selena gone is remember when

02:21:44.620 one hundred dollars what's happening remember when brian said he was done with his life

02:21:49.980 arguing with the mislike arguing with a brick wall also red dress girl is

02:21:54.620 did you mute it everywhere did you mute the tts monster i don't know this is insufferable go the

02:22:02.060 video tab the nope you didn't okay um i forgot but yeah so we were i'm courtesan of the year this year

02:22:16.940 and alice was courtesan how many years were you courtesan of the year many many yeah it was like

02:22:23.020 was it like on and off or was it like like just in a row oh no i wait hold on let me she made a

02:22:29.260 million dollars in one year baby i need to address i'll just address the selena thing uh first off

02:22:34.700 they're not do some of you have of i don't know but they're not of us but i get what you're saying

02:22:40.220 selena here's the here's the actual issue so i tried to like switch to trying to book more quote unquote

02:22:48.700 normal girls not in the s work industry the issue is selena if you want to come and volunteer your

02:22:58.140 time to try to book people uh it's been incredibly like all those shows i don't know if you remember

02:23:05.260 like a month ago where we were just getting like the whole panels would flake and it was like girls

02:23:12.140 who weren't doing of or whatever um the flaking issue like because we'll we'll source locally here

02:23:19.100 if it's just insane even if we offer to pay we would offer to pay them and they would still flake

02:23:24.940 and they typically they'd flake last minute and fuck our production the reality is is selena if anybody who

02:23:31.900 who has qualms with the types of guests we bring on you're more than welcome to come and volunteer and

02:23:37.660 book women who don't do sex work don't do only fans come and volunteer your time you guys can secure

02:23:45.420 guests for us but the reality is it's it's extremely difficult two times a week to book a full panel of

02:23:51.340 like anywhere from six to ten people so we we were dealing with a lot of flakes um it was literally i

02:23:57.980 was about to take another month off because the flaking issue is so such a pain in the ass so it is what

02:24:04.140 it is like it's really hard to book for the show it's a controversial show like a fucking college

02:24:09.180 girl or girl who has a professional career even if we pay them they don't want to come on or they

02:24:14.780 say they're going to come on and they just flake so it is what it is that's the reality of doing

02:24:19.420 controversial show like this especially in a very liberal area if we were in florida we could probably

02:24:25.180 probably maneuver it a little better but it's very hard here in california so what is the complaint

02:24:29.660 uh she's complaining like there's a complaint that i bring on a lot of women who do only fans or who

02:24:36.620 are involved in um it's typically only fans girls who predominantly come on the show um this is

02:24:42.700 certainly a specialty panel uh because they're like well that's not representative of of other women

02:24:49.260 and some of those look it's a valid criticism however the complexity that we've encountered when

02:24:54.460 it comes to booking people is like if we bring on normal average like girls who go to the call

02:25:00.540 the local college here or who work like the flake the flake rate is so incredibly high so we have to

02:25:06.620 balance do we just not put on a show because everybody flaked like we've had shows madison i'm

02:25:11.900 sure you can attest to this like we will have the entire panel flake what damn the entire panel

02:25:19.420 literally and they'll do it an hour before the show the college girls yeah it's probably just

02:25:27.340 because you know i'd seen a couple episodes and and you know sometimes i think that maybe they're

02:25:32.380 like oh i you know i i think i should do it and they just don't you know they're scared they don't

02:25:36.700 have it's i think it's how it's marketed a little bit even their peers also kind of like it's like a

02:25:41.580 normal girl like coming on to the show like so if you're participating in like only fans sex work

02:25:48.300 yeah like you're already like taking your clothes off you're doing it donated 100 thank you for all

02:25:53.980 you do you're doing a great sorry that it's duplicated thank you for yo bash the stampede

02:25:58.700 thank you very much i need i'm gonna fix this in a second go ahead anyway yeah uh i think normal

02:26:04.060 girls who's like they send out a message saying hey i want to come on uh they're they're they don't

02:26:10.060 participate in only fans uh sex work yeah because people who participate in only fans and sex work

02:26:16.060 they're already under like extreme public scrutiny correct like like you're known and it's like okay

02:26:22.380 like yeah you're used to criticism you're used to people saying like okay you like you're a terrible

02:26:28.060 person you have no value yeah blah blah blah blah but a normal girl but a normal girl like if they

02:26:33.260 come on the show it's like i don't know if i want to like somebody so it's like an hour before the show

02:26:38.940 it's like oh this is real like start getting i i gotta start i gotta like what are the arguments

02:26:44.860 i bring across like these these people know like kind of know what they're talking about

02:26:48.620 people that we do get like the quote unquote normal girls that we get i feel that are just kind of

02:26:53.500 scared to come on because they'll just like look up the channel and be like oh they have a lot of

02:26:57.100 followers yeah whatever i say is like yeah i mean it's the same with guys as well yeah like it's hard to

02:27:03.980 point though about what you were just saying like that just goes to show like sex workers have an

02:27:10.860 extremely strong nervous system and it's like i feel like we know how to receive a lot of of of

02:27:19.580 energy criticism criticism whatever it is it's like we know how to receive and metabolize and that's one

02:27:24.940 of the gifts of being a sex worker is that we're intrinsically alchemist like we know how to practice

02:27:30.780 alcohol we're we're forced to yeah we're forced to we're forced to and a lot of people so just to

02:27:36.940 just to your point high levels i literally disassociation is one of my best gifts that i

02:27:41.900 got me too industry because that's the best thing that but being an actress but what i will say is

02:27:47.180 also to what she was saying earlier doctors lawyers all of these people who have high performing jobs

02:27:55.100 also have to have extremely regulated and strong nervous systems in order to show up

02:28:00.700 selena gone is donated 100 i completely understand i still love the show just giving you

02:28:07.500 and sorry that it's doing this i'm not sure why it's uh i'd one thousand percent volunteer

02:28:14.940 but i'm unfortunately in the midwest uh selena no it's it's all good i mean don't worry about it

02:28:22.380 appreciate your support i don't sorry that the tts is still bugged i'm not sure what the frick is

02:28:27.100 going on with that i need to fix it i'm not sure um why but uh yeah um here sorry yeah sorry um your

02:28:35.020 point was uh sorry i'm trying to so my point is that we're able to leave so what i've realized

02:28:42.220 transitioning and maybe you could speak to this too sex work was such a blessing for me because it's it's

02:28:48.380 taught me how to even run the business that i do right now which i'm responsible for hundreds of

02:28:54.220 women you know what i mean it's taught me how to legit sustain a business how to sell it's taught me

02:28:59.900 how to sell like when i went into my coaching business at first i was really nervous and i

02:29:04.060 i've invested probably over two hundred thousand dollars in my self-development and i kid you not

02:29:09.500 i will go into like a sales course and i'm like oh this is stripping oh this is sex work

02:29:13.820 like i've literally learned how to be an entrepreneur through sex work yeah i i don't disagree with

02:29:21.420 that aspect to it um so i i have to preface this i'm not saying this as like i want to hurt your

02:29:31.580 feelings um this is just what i believe this to be yeah so when i hear that i hear that

02:29:39.340 sex work has enabled you to destroy your own conscience to where you can't feel guilt anymore

02:29:47.020 no no no so okay and um so there are like it is enabled me to

02:29:54.540 nation abu donated 100

02:29:56.380 nick's fault it's snippet's fault it's snippet's fault it's snippet's fault it's snippet's fault

02:30:01.820 it's snippet's fault oh my god like the fact that it's happening as it's as this is happening

02:30:07.580 is like hey nick we love you yeah the comedic effect is appreciated

02:30:12.780 it's nick's fault it's nick's fault

02:30:14.540 nasha i think that it's helped me build my consciousness yeah i think that it's helped

02:30:19.900 me build my consciousness i think it's helped me build my consciousness it's helped me expand

02:30:23.900 my consciousness and become way more empathetic as a person yes so human to human i am much more

02:30:30.940 empathetic as a human i am much more skillful at negotiating and talking with people relating to

02:30:37.180 people yeah and that's why the wealth management company put me as vp of business growth it is

02:30:42.460 because my prior experience in the industry working with people and connecting with people

02:30:50.060 trust me yeah so i'm not saying that you are unable to connect with people i think uh women do

02:30:57.740 that very well just in general yeah like it's women they move in circles where it's all about

02:31:04.220 feeling that connection that relationship yeah there's um an interesting thing that happens so

02:31:09.500 when you look at uh little uh like boys in the schoolyard they'll tend to play games that have like

02:31:15.740 hierarchical hierarchical structures like basketball or football someone is the captain someone is the best on

02:31:21.980 the court and we we go to them for like okay how like what are we doing so there's a winner and a

02:31:28.860 loser and there's like that disparity so it's more about like outcomes and like the the differences

02:31:36.220 between each person so women will tend to go to games that are they're very much more relational

02:31:42.940 there's not a winner not a loser so in the so little girls when they they'll play like hopscotch or when

02:31:48.460 you're when you're talking about sex workers yeah yeah yeah anyway so like i'm not saying that

02:31:53.420 there's there's no there's no like relational aspect because obviously you're talking to somebody

02:31:58.940 else you you are in this in the room with somebody else but the what i am discussing there's obviously

02:32:07.260 something now we you can make the argument that it might be societal i would make the argument that

02:32:12.780 it's something ingrained in us that is damaged by participating in sex outside of marriage i have

02:32:19.980 a question about that too yeah yeah so you can you ask the question i need to i do need it like we're

02:32:24.780 worse okay i need to move on okay no brian you do your thing um yes okay so i think i was going around

02:32:32.940 the table would you want your son to see prostitutes and you said yes oh he did see one yeah he did see

02:32:40.380 one responsibly i would say this is when like okay let's say let's say i had a kid theoretically

02:32:47.340 and he was being bullied and he you know in school and and he had like kind of like a chip on his

02:32:51.980 shoulder or something and he's 18 and he's like you know what no woman ever loved me no never loved

02:32:57.260 me i said you know what let's just get this out of your way you go down to the brothel if he's like

02:33:03.180 i don't have any money and that's not i'm like wait you're can you scoot your mic to the edge of the

02:33:07.100 table oh the edge okay all the way to the edge like like right here yeah okay okay i'd be like

02:33:11.660 you know what birthday i'll do it you know let's get this out of your your way here and let's let's

02:33:16.860 get you some new energy in you you pick one you have a good time you be respectful and we're gonna

02:33:23.020 move on from that and we're gonna get you you know as long as you're comfortable with it but we're

02:33:27.740 gonna let's move past this and and and and let's focus on other things that you could be be focused on

02:33:33.980 and then what if he's a completely different person after that he's like oh thank god that's

02:33:37.900 over i remember i actually when i was younger um i was a virgin i was very ashamed of it and so i

02:33:44.380 begged someone to take my virginity you had to beg i did you had to beg yes because i was bullied a lot

02:33:49.980 so um i had to beg someone to take my virginity and when it was gone i felt so good about myself

02:33:57.100 because it was better to be looked at as a whore than to be looked at as a loser in my book i felt

02:34:03.820 invisible i i all of a sudden after i had had sex with this person i was visible people knew who i

02:34:09.500 was and and i felt so much power and i was bragging about it yeah i was bragging about it because because

02:34:15.020 i was treated terribly before i was when when i was a virgin i was treated really bad because you were

02:34:21.020 a virgin i just the loser nobody will ever touch you or be with you and this and that so yeah and

02:34:26.940 a ton of stigma oh yeah i i would i always said oh my gosh no no guy will ever be with me so then i

02:34:34.860 had a friend i begged him to take my virginity and he did and i this weight was lifted off my shoulders

02:34:41.260 and i could move on and i and all of a sudden next couple years i was real popular so wait just to be

02:34:45.980 clear so if you're you said if your son was being bullied i think if he was 18 if he was 18 i i would

02:34:51.980 take him to the brothel i wouldn't like be like if he was getting bullied in general or being if he

02:34:56.460 had a chip on his shoulder about women and he said like ah if only a woman would touch me and love me

02:35:02.140 and he was 18 i'd be like well it's illegal you're 18 birthday present all right sure mothers are bringing

02:35:09.900 um virgin i've had that too i've all the time all the time i've had mothers you want your

02:35:15.180 first yes absolutely okay what about you would you want your son to see this this is really really

02:35:21.180 a hard question to be answered because my first experience i waited for my boyfriend to take my

02:35:29.660 virginity but prior to him was another man and he was 23 i was like 14. it wasn't a good situation you

02:35:36.940 can figure out what that is well without saying the word but personally i believe a woman and yes i used

02:35:44.860 to be in the sex industry but because of my perspective and all the women that i serve

02:35:50.220 at destiny house and dream house and all the safe houses across the country working with people that

02:35:54.940 have exited the sex industry i would not prefer this for my son because i would want him to honor a woman

02:36:05.500 in a way he wouldn't have to pay for her and he would love her enough to marry her first and give him

02:36:13.580 everything he has because he really does love her 100 that's my take um i think it's a hard question

02:36:24.220 i you have a i have a daughter daughter okay yeah if you had a son would you want him to see a

02:36:29.660 prostitute i don't think if his and i i would want him to communicate about it with me and understand

02:36:36.060 his deeper intention and his deeper desire there okay so for me it's yes and no

02:36:44.700 do you have a son i have goat kids oh so sorry that's right that's right um they have lots of

02:36:51.820 sex when you want your son absolutely yes seeing a sex worker isn't dishonoring a woman it's not

02:37:01.020 dishonorable in any way shape or form if anything paying a woman and recognizing the value that she

02:37:07.180 is bringing to the table with her experience with her knowledge what she is providing in that exchange

02:37:13.580 has value and then honoring that with what is regarded as being valuable within our society which is money

02:37:22.380 that's a beautiful thing to do he respects women enough to pay them for their labor rather than

02:37:29.500 going to a bar getting a woman drunk trying to take her home and trick her into having sex when

02:37:35.020 she's only half sober i would never want any child of mine taking advantage of somebody else's child

02:37:42.140 that wasn't sober i would never want somebody to go and that's a bit of a leap though because the

02:37:46.380 question is that's how most people end up like oh i'm a virgin i guess i'm gonna just go to a bar and

02:37:50.940 have a one night stand and lose it that's a bit of a so many people i'm just trying to understand

02:37:55.340 i'm just trying to follow the logic here so you're saying that if your son didn't go to see a

02:38:00.460 prostitute that he would take advantage of a drunk no i am saying i would much rather a child of mine

02:38:07.820 see a sex worker then choose to lose their virginity by going to a bar and getting somebody drunk and

02:38:15.020 making that choice which when most men go oh i want to lose it i don't know what to do what do men say to

02:38:22.380 other men oftentimes the advice is why don't you go to a bar and buy a girl a couple of drinks like

02:38:27.340 have you not heard that dating advice from someone oh just go to a bar and go lose it like yeah yeah

02:38:32.380 i mean what about chivalry yeah i've heard i've heard like guys that's how they talk but yeah i'd

02:38:38.060 rather see a man pay for a woman and honor her in that way by acknowledging the value of her work

02:38:45.580 and compensating her fairly for it also too if he's not planning to be with her then it's

02:38:49.820 best to go to the sex worker no so i think like so as a man like there there have been integral

02:38:56.380 things that have happened in my life because i have held myself to this standard so i'm not going

02:39:01.500 to have sex till marriage so it it automatically weeds out a lot of women because that's what a lot

02:39:07.100 of women want i mean like most you could probably agree with me most women want to have sex for

02:39:12.380 marriage yeah so it weeds a lot of those people out i would say there are some key character

02:39:18.300 development things going on in my life uh that is directly impacted from me not wanting to have

02:39:25.580 sex before marriage so so let's just take it also let's just take it wrong with that that's

02:39:30.780 let's just yeah so let's just take it to somebody maybe they're not waiting for marriage maybe they're

02:39:34.540 just they're looking to they're just looking they want to lose it exactly want to lose it so i would

02:39:40.860 say that there's probably some key character uh improvements that need to happen for that person

02:39:47.100 to be attract for that man to be attractive to a woman so by trying to put a band-aid over that

02:39:53.740 problem by saying hey let's just go get you a sex worker and like we'll just let you be with a woman

02:40:00.380 and that will hopefully fix this issue that you have i think that is a that's a it's not a get rich

02:40:06.780 quick scheme but it's like it's a band-aid for a problem that's much larger maybe he needs to

02:40:13.820 improve himself maybe he needs to be more of a man maybe he needs there are some character

02:40:19.420 development things that need to have a comment on that will be hindered and that's also the

02:40:24.140 mother's responsibility so i i think like so as a man i like i think that needs to come from the

02:40:32.220 father not so much the mother because like the father has been through those character development

02:40:37.500 issues unless the father isn't there well so yeah he has been the one yeah so ideally the father's

02:40:42.220 there i mean i think yeah that's a huge problem but the father should be the one speaking into their

02:40:47.820 son's lives saying okay they're you're having this issue that like you might want to try to solve this

02:40:54.460 issue very quickly by going to a bar or seeing a sex worker but there are things that you need to

02:40:59.900 improve in your life to where you will be desirable to a woman correct because i do think that like

02:41:05.820 um example if if let's say let's say he's like i'm 18 i'm gonna go see a sex worker because you know i

02:41:10.300 have this chip on my shoulder goes and sees him and he's like let's say he gets the whole nine yards

02:41:15.100 there and and you know i paid a pretty penny for whatever he did and then all of a sudden he comes

02:41:19.900 back home oh i'm still unhappy and no one will ever love me i'd be like you know what you just got

02:41:25.500 a gift from that woman and she gave everything to you assume presumably and you're still not happy

02:41:32.060 you're the one that needs to work on yourself i said you just got a gift you are ungrateful

02:41:37.020 for what you get in life when you say the father should be a part of that in building that i got a

02:41:41.820 follow-up question here yeah would you want your daughter's daughter if you had a daughter if you have

02:41:48.060 a daughter to be a prostitute what a silly question no this is such a stereotypical question no we got

02:41:56.780 to like take a time out here this question is a tired question that people love to ask sex workers

02:42:03.580 as a stereotypical gotcha question it's not a gotcha i have an answer why are you asking why did you not

02:42:10.380 object you didn't object to me asking the son question because most people don't ask about would

02:42:16.780 you want your son to see a sex worker no legitimately the majority of people don't

02:42:21.340 ask would you want your son to see a sex worker and have an elevated conversation about it the

02:42:25.900 conversation around would you want your daughter to be a sex worker that's a question that gets tossed

02:42:32.140 around constantly that's like asking a sex worker to do her makeup in the mirror everybody knows what

02:42:38.780 that one motorsports donated one hundred dollars no that is not how men talk to fear sons men teach

02:42:46.860 sons to be men and respect women and to not consort with three hundred and fours we can point

02:42:56.780 i know so many men in marriages and are dating materialistic women that are paying out the nose for

02:43:03.980 their relationships i know so many men in marriages and dating relationships where they are paying

02:43:11.340 out the nose jay butler you i think you can't send it with like a bad word or whatever genital herpes is

02:43:16.940 not protected by condoms and all sex workers will contract it on a long enough timeline in the industry

02:43:22.220 this is why they can't test for it in blank you all have it you're filthy i don't have it i have kaiser

02:43:28.060 well actually i just switched but i i don't have a lot of belligerent monsters

02:43:34.860 yeah in california but i i switched okay so the question was and you see i mean

02:43:41.020 everything that you said does nothing to like refute the question that i asked i'm curious why

02:43:46.380 you're asking it because everybody wants to oh your daughter i'm the host of a podcast asking various

02:43:52.860 questions but why does this have to do with our children we are consenting adults choosing to do

02:43:57.580 something with our own careers why not ask us about our careers and what we are doing because

02:44:03.740 of sex if you refuse it's a fair question to ask because like like your children are part of your

02:44:11.180 life and you're like nobody wants to talk about their kids at 18 yeah well this is a it's a dating

02:44:19.580 talk podcast dating generally so generally i just i just feel like kids are one of those things so

02:44:25.740 generally dating leads to marriage and then usually marriage leads to kids not always come on let's

02:44:31.900 let's be like gotcha question because it's most likely a no from a lot of people i don't think it

02:44:38.460 has anything to do with again and and like and i want to go back to like when you said if if a girl

02:44:43.980 came to me and talked to me about wanting to be an escort you know same with my daughter i want to

02:44:50.460 know why i want to understand why and then yeah i would educate her on the right way to do it would

02:44:58.380 you advise your daughter like say she came to you and she wanted to get into this line of work would you

02:45:05.020 guide her away from it or would you as you said try to encourage her i would want to understand you

02:45:13.660 know why what is the motivation money let's just say it's she wants money oh then okay it's like

02:45:20.140 it's the the thing is you have to understand how people are raised so if a child like i was i was not

02:45:25.820 raised in the best household but i'm choosing to break those those chains those curses whatever

02:45:30.860 with my daughter so my daughter's never going to think oh i want to do sex work because she's

02:45:35.660 not being raised in an environment that's breeding that okay you know what i mean well so the question

02:45:40.940 is would you want your daughters to be i'm asking you i'm starting with you and we'll go around this

02:45:47.500 way go ahead again i have goats i have goat kids here i am not a parent so i do want to lead with that

02:45:54.780 kid this is all very theoretical here so i can't do you want kids in the future you're allowed to have

02:45:59.820 an i don't i only want goats and horses thank you so very much that could be your answer i don't

02:46:04.380 want kids and if i wanted to have a daughter and she wanted to be a sex worker sure she can be a

02:46:09.580 sex worker donated 100 that's fine thank you this episode sex work is a blessing of god sex work a

02:46:16.380 stepping stone to god my kids wouldn't come up in dating what degen crap you peddling brian

02:46:21.500 merseus is tiffany no that would be fired if i came on okay um hey you know we're trying something

02:46:29.580 new you know we're doing an all sex worker baby do a little something different we are always a

02:46:34.700 click bait use yeah anyway there's nothing wrong with doing sex work what makes this career such a

02:46:43.580 problem for people it's like oh what happens if your daughter wants to be i don't know in the military i

02:46:49.340 think i'd have more problems with my child wanting to be in the military than i would with them

02:46:52.940 wanting to be a sex worker i'd be more concerned about their safety if they wanted to ride horses

02:46:58.540 professionally for a living i'd be more concerned for their safety if they wanted to be an emt in a

02:47:03.820 risky area like there are far more challenging careers than being a sex worker out there i don't

02:47:09.420 know why it's such a big deal like okay sure great be a sex worker cool cool i mean i think you're

02:47:16.060 looking for a yes or no and it's so much more complex than just like yes or no like there's

02:47:20.060 so much more behind it you don't need to give a yes or no but i'm hoping you can give brief

02:47:24.220 my my answer like just give the like just give the short version if you want to explain you can

02:47:29.260 explain no okay i'm sure it's somebody who's spent the whole entire time yeah um i would definitely say

02:47:35.260 no because of the experience i have myself and the wonderful it's been more than 15 000 people we've

02:47:42.700 helped out of sex work that no no too dangerous for me if if she came to me when so i get my tantra

02:47:51.980 tantra um practitioners certification this upcoming year and if she said mom i want to be like you and

02:48:00.300 i like how you're into tantra and i like how you you know do that the broth i like how you heal you know

02:48:04.620 are really into healing and having this experience with people i'd say okay well you can go to these

02:48:09.420 retreats you know i'll pay for you to go to these retreats and if and if you really enjoy that there

02:48:13.900 are brothels available for you to work at but if she just says oh my gosh mom i want to make a lot

02:48:18.380 of money like you and i don't really want to do that that's not my style and i'm just i'm just trying

02:48:23.260 to you know get money and i'd be like didn't you learn anything from your mother like literally like

02:48:27.100 didn't you learn anything from my life because obviously she would know it yeah butler donated

02:48:32.700 100 only a western block test can properly diagnose genital herpes passing the standard herpes

02:48:40.220 test means nothing sorry you all definitely have it are you doctor bodies equals 12 partners who are

02:48:46.780 infected filthy filthy don't have it i don't have it i literally like every single show jay butler brings

02:48:53.820 up he's our he's uh he's a uh what's the i always forget the term jay for jack off he's a uh oh okay

02:49:02.460 an incel yeah no no that's not what i was gonna say absolutely he's a uh what's the term for uh

02:49:10.060 moron no no no no he wasn't going to refrain from the name calling let's just pray for him

02:49:16.540 hey well if you have herpes you're still a good person i have a hot take on the daughters being

02:49:26.300 sex workers because after just hearing you speak because the foundation of my work is in tantra

02:49:31.100 and like i said i i still feel like i'm in sex work it just looks different okay and i do have a

02:49:35.820 belief that all women are actually sex workers it just the way that we identify yep the way that we

02:49:42.620 identify um sex work all wait hold on all women are sex all women are sex workers look at okay

02:49:51.660 literally all women have sexual energy all women work with their sexual energy to create not only

02:49:59.020 life she's giving you a back massage uh did you cook today yes okay so you used your sexual energy

02:50:06.620 use your creative how is cooking sexual you you because you're looking whoa wait wait wait because

02:50:12.140 you're looking at sexual as like oh i'm doing this and i'm like getting turned on sexual energy is

02:50:17.820 creative life force energy so when you're creating anything a painting i'm creating words when you're

02:50:25.340 cooking like kundalini yeah it's kundalini so whenever you're creating anything you're literally

02:50:30.540 using your sacral sexual energy so all people are sexual beings all women use their sexual energy

02:50:37.180 to create are you saying chefs are sex workers yeah chefs are sex workers oh no i'm using that as

02:50:44.060 an example but i'm saying anything that you're creating you're using this life force energy your

02:50:50.620 sacral energy it's literally a motor in your body which i could go into that rabbit hole and i

02:50:55.580 won't i mean it's a motor center in your body though i think we also need to be careful too

02:51:00.220 about science saying there's one right way to do sex crew work yeah sex work takes so many different

02:51:07.980 forms and fashions for so many different people correct it's really multifaceted i mean correct

02:51:12.940 we've all assumed here that we're talking about brothel work yes that's why i said no not a single

02:51:19.020 person has said what if it was phone sex work yeah what if they were a sex therapist what if they were

02:51:25.180 like someone who was a certified tantra practitioner tantra is not even about sex that's the thing

02:51:32.860 there's a small percentage of you're saying that madison over there when she was cooking earlier

02:51:37.180 today that means i'm a she's that means that you were working that means that you were working with

02:51:42.460 your sexual energy to create something to manifest something and that's literally what sex workers do we

02:51:47.980 have an intention we go in we we manifest we create and then we have a tangible result which is

02:51:54.860 money that's our tangible manifestation of the night but you mentioned specifically when she was

02:51:59.660 cooking earlier today how does that relate that's an action okay so creating i'm creating words right

02:52:05.500 now that's sex work let me let me get to it what's the definitely we need to define what sex is because

02:52:11.020 it's definitely so i'm talking about using your sexual energy to create and we all use our sexual energy

02:52:17.740 to create we're talking about tantra it's like it's not even about tantra it's literally science

02:52:22.460 it's our sacral energy look up the sacral look up your sacral energy it's sexual and i think so

02:52:28.940 how do you measure sacral energy sacral it's literally a chakra so how do you measure that i don't know i

02:52:36.140 i don't know how you measure science it's life science energy needs observational like i don't

02:52:41.660 know so you can yeah you can say look it up but so if you have done all of this research and you

02:52:49.020 say it's scientific scientific is measured by the scientific method so you have to be able to observe

02:52:54.380 something it has to be repeatable and has to be measured okay the chakra system is proven how how did

02:53:00.620 you measure that i don't know how they it's it's a belief system it's not a belief system it's so hey

02:53:06.380 it's not scientific let's so it might be a belief system you like i i can't say you don't believe

02:53:12.380 that there are people's beliefs everybody has different beliefs we're not here to call people's

02:53:17.580 beliefs into question like you called my beliefs into question nobody and i i nobody said to you

02:53:23.020 you're wrong jesus doesn't exist see that's the thing so like i can challenge your beliefs i think

02:53:29.740 beliefs should be i'm not a sex worker you're not i'm not a sex worker you are working the show

02:53:37.340 aren't you for all these trolls our sex well that's i wonder if anyone's like we're all working with our

02:53:47.340 our sacral is a motor center in our body it's in human design there are souls nicolodion donated

02:53:54.300 one hundred dollars these women that spout this garbage about titanic sex massages

02:54:01.900 signs horoscopes and do die boards then sit there and scoff at the bible

02:54:07.980 facts that's facts it's facts i didn't i love the bible i love the bible i love

02:54:13.020 that but i'm not talking about all the even believe that it's even believed that mary magdalene was a

02:54:18.940 tantric priestess and that she was the one oh my god jeremy and vegas donated one hundred dollars

02:54:26.140 brian stellar job as always i totally share mitch's values but i'd also argue this is one of the most

02:54:33.180 intelligent panels you've had on annie love your work lauren love your soul oh hashtag baking is six

02:54:41.180 work my mitch that's my baking is speaking of baking let's eat something i know yeah literally

02:54:50.780 my sugar is low i'm like jerry in vegas uh okay i don't get me on the merit go you can move past it

02:54:57.740 rails here okay because i'll go down a rabbit hole i can't and i don't have the mental energy right now

02:55:03.660 i just flat out disagree with you that you said the i think you said sex workers everything is

02:55:09.980 everyone everything is sexual everything is sexual you've got a sex worker right behind you

02:55:16.540 you're absolutely right sex work takes many shapes and forms and they're all fn degenerate

02:55:23.580 pure degeneracy i love that you're explaining science to degenerate clueless sex workers

02:55:30.140 hey i'm in school right now oh yeah i think well i'm pretty sure that most of us are more

02:55:35.100 intelligent than selena selena yeah selena selena selena selena please get the last name

02:55:45.180 please get the last name i think that we're conditioned to think like i want you i want

02:55:49.740 you both to understand i understand yours comes from religion but i want to hear your hot take

02:55:54.300 on where your conditioned belief that sex is inherently wrong whoa whoa whoa whoa no no no

02:56:03.020 sex work sorry sex work is inherently wrong i want to hear your belief like where did that

02:56:07.340 stem from look i i think we've already lingered on that for too long as it is if we time permitting

02:56:12.620 we can come back to that at the end of the show let's go to fun dates but no pun intended i need

02:56:17.340 sugar's dropping oh you know what yeah i can describe a fun hold on i like what

02:56:21.900 loren is saying let me read this from dr clockwork of girls agree to come on then see content and

02:56:26.780 flake they don't want to get crapped on for body count wife and i would love to come on and debate

02:56:30.700 you both in adult industry alice amy says hi we miss you and then we have we do have a tts coming

02:56:37.500 in here i want to see adam 22 on this he's been on the show yeah like a couple months ago very cool

02:56:43.500 modest hikama donated 100 sorry if already discussed yes or no cue did you grow up with

02:56:50.860 your biological married parents in a single family household since i'm not a cat can i not have an

02:56:57.500 opinion on cats science is truth yes well put well put jacama modest hikama i think how do you pronounce

02:57:04.940 it hikama it's hikama i keep messing it up i'm sorry oh by the way this i'm pinky is an idiot

02:57:11.980 sense sorry that this fell off i'm not going to be able to trigger it but it did come up brian

02:57:17.820 it says candace's husband is is jewish this chick is absolute degenerate christ is king

02:57:25.820 i don't why did he own that was like 30 minutes ago i don't okay i'm not sure it came okay all right

02:57:31.020 yep go look up her pr super cool someone said hello name alice uh yeah she said oh yeah okay

02:57:39.020 yeah uh okay coming back to you you're a shaman i wish um but you said you're a sex shaman i am a

02:57:45.740 tantra practitioner in training right now and but i did go to a sexual shaman retreat i did did you play

02:57:51.100 hoarder alliance no i didn't know how to do that because you're a shaman right so do you play like

02:57:56.780 hoarder alliance are we talking like classic questions i don't do you play that i didn't i

02:58:04.060 appreciate i don't know how to do uh because like if it's obviously if it's like classic you can only

02:58:10.140 be shaman on the horde side i guess i could try did you play troll or orc or tauren um true i don't think

02:58:20.380 i played any of that like i think the attack animations are the best for troll but i think like

02:58:25.180 pvp you probably want to go orc because of the 25 stun resistance or for classic orchid like orc is

02:58:32.780 pretty good for shaman like for pvp because the stun resist so confused like i think troll is like has

02:58:40.060 the best like attack and cast animations she does not have the stun resist this is wait what is happening

02:58:46.700 wait wait wait the shaman but if like post like post burning crusade right like past the burning crusade

02:58:54.300 you can play shaman on both factions oh that's wrong oh we don't talk about anything past

02:59:01.900 wrath oh are we gonna fight i don't talk about i am so confused okay um do you wait

02:59:11.980 shit i had a question oh this is for all the girls kind of maybe i should wait until she's back from the

02:59:16.940 bathroom do you when it comes to the work that you guys do do you consider yourselves

02:59:24.780 artists yeah yes when you are you like yo i'm mozart in this

02:59:31.180 shit yeah yeah class i want to give them a hundred percent and i'm telling you i am warhol

02:59:37.580 everything that's right when i'm with somebody that's right impactful artists of our generation

02:59:43.340 i am shakespeare in the flesh walt disney nike google do you got like so do you guys got that kanye energy

02:59:51.660 yeah no but really you've become the very thing you swore to destroy all famous artists yes in many

02:59:59.980 cases based their art off of sex workers who do you think is in manet no no literally painted french

03:00:09.980 prostitutes that is a fact have you never seen olympia some artists do you not know who olympia is

03:00:17.180 who olympia the very famous yes some artists some artists many many sex workers you said you said

03:00:25.660 all you said all artists all artists a lot of musical artists are inspired by ladies so many

03:00:33.580 so much art is inspired i've written songs about sex work no maybe i disagree i don't think most art

03:00:41.580 is inspired by sex work perhaps you can make the argument like there's a lot of love

03:00:47.020 songs out there they're inspired by love or women or like roxanne sex work i mean what do you think

03:00:53.820 that one was inspired by certainly not his truck i don't think no

03:01:02.700 but okay i'm not saying that there is no art out there that is an influencer inspired by

03:01:08.780 perhaps a prostitute every time the taylor swift breaks up with a man we all get a new

03:01:16.060 album it is love that is sex that is part of the motivation of what drives y'all are delusional

03:01:28.700 do you really think if she was not intimately invested in these dudes that you would turn

03:01:34.220 around and produce all these dynamic songs you think that what they're doing is not sex work they're

03:01:38.620 going up they're literally dancing and fucking gyrating who um all beyonce every single female

03:01:45.500 artist literally you're committed to looking at it from a specific lens which is fine like you're

03:01:54.380 entitled to that but like i agree with that yeah the truth they are definitely portraying themselves

03:01:59.420 a sexual and that's because oh my god yeah but it's yes it does but it's because we're all innately

03:02:08.060 sexual fucking oh excuse me sexual beings the earth is a sexual okay i see what you're saying yes

03:02:13.340 there are certainly certain um like female musicians that are being sexual to further their from the dawn of

03:02:20.940 time it just no there are plenty of yeah but like literally so certain people will the shape of venus

03:02:28.140 what what even if even when there was really really conservative views you have to think

03:02:33.180 like okay okay there was women who would like show their collarbone how do you want women portrayed

03:02:37.740 in society what do you envision oh what should we look like oh the bowing video i got you

03:02:43.580 i got you i got you so far i've learned gordon ramsay is a sex worker he is a sex worker

03:02:53.660 according chakras is science the bible talks about e.t falling home

03:03:00.220 e.t fell numb what the fuck is this show it's the whatever it's the whatever it's the spirit

03:03:05.580 science whatever this show has gone off the rails you olivia fine you want yeah

03:03:11.900 actually we'll i'll pull up the video one sec i like this question scroll up scroll up make it

03:03:16.220 bigger oh no i can't make it bigger immediately immediately dislike yeah what is no i don't

03:03:21.340 i've seen a japanese girl scroll up scroll up scroll up i think like a solid bow in what happened

03:03:28.300 the culture the deep so you're misogynistic in the well in the culture oh excuse my

03:03:34.220 in the culture yo ab check thank you for the gift of 20 members they say the deeper the bow the

03:03:38.620 bigger the respect yeah this is respect so she cooked for you and she bowed just keep watching

03:03:44.300 olivia please please please be respectful hold on be respectful wait for we're gonna see the bow

03:03:49.820 again the bow is coming up this is what i'd like i'd like i want you could create that boom wait for it

03:03:55.740 boom wow huge huge okay you could have that i'm telling you if my wife greeted me that way when i

03:04:02.700 got home that would be the biggest turn on i would give her the world well it's like i would i would

03:04:09.980 anything for that one real question hold up though aren't you not supposed to like bow before anybody

03:04:15.900 other than your lord is that a part of christianity yo modest come on thank you for the gifted what you

03:04:21.820 just showed us was your kink that's not a kink well no that's not a kink like is that a thing

03:04:26.860 it's respect is a kink it's some it's submission i don't think it's a kink but also you could create

03:04:33.260 that look you could create that i'm sure you'll meet a beautiful oh i can trust me i can get if i

03:04:38.060 want a bow i can get a bow you could get a bow you could get a bow i can get a bow you could create

03:04:43.180 that i can get you could get one but i don't think that that i can get about now olivia here thinks

03:04:47.340 it's misogynistic going back to what's that's right you said it was misogynistic me me wanting

03:04:53.260 that is that misogynistic well it's definitely are you down it's sexist it's it's but i mean it's your

03:05:00.220 preference it's your preference how's it sexist i mean if it's about i mean if it's consensual it is

03:05:07.420 how's it sexist i have something to say how's it sexist get ready come on olivia because she has

03:05:13.900 like no she's stuck at home she's she's stuck at home little woman um it's just a limited existence

03:05:21.980 no it's not why is her profession so disgusting to you but your profession is fine what where do

03:05:30.940 you draw that line she has chosen that this is how she wants to live her life she wants to cater to

03:05:36.300 her husband yeah she wants to provide for him she wants to respect him and this is like this is her

03:05:42.380 profession like she is training herself to do this well and she does it well what is so terrible about

03:05:48.700 that i don't think i don't know what would it do it is one microphone at a time please yeah i i just

03:06:06.060 wanted to say just the history of the bowel tell us about this of what the history of women working and

03:06:13.580 having the seek work and this isn't everyone donated 100 brian genital herpes has done to their

03:06:21.660 neurological function to ever let these filthy animals out of their cage has put everyone in

03:06:27.420 the room at risk

03:06:33.420 can we put people off here or not we don't want we don't want to use the it's getting very

03:06:39.260 entertaining so i just think it's funny they're spending money to say this there's something

03:06:43.820 just really important that i think a lot of people have missed since it's since the dawn of time because

03:06:48.380 the equality issue yeah the family is a beautiful picture of man and woman children it's it's absolutely

03:06:55.900 beautiful and our society is broken down so bad to the fact that man can't find a wife

03:07:02.780 a woman can't find a good husband to provide so she has to go out and make it happen and

03:07:08.620 and sometimes that means using her sexuality yeah because she cannot take care of that child

03:07:16.620 that she got impregnated by with someone that left her after he convinced her to sleep with him and

03:07:23.500 now she lost everything because now she has a fatherless child i will say this so it hurts my heart

03:07:29.420 very good point yeah i would never allow if my if my girlfriend or wife bowed to me never there's no

03:07:36.380 world i call my husband my lord that she would ever get to the streets yeah i'd never yeah that's

03:07:41.900 because you're a man you're a man masculine energy yeah i want you to be mindful of immediate turn off

03:07:47.900 i want you to be mindful of what every what's it turn on calling your man your lord i was like yeah

03:07:52.940 immediate i'm sorry oh no no immediate this is between him and i it's a personal thing uh alice it's a

03:07:58.780 it's a joke i prefer because there's this story in the bible master's good i like it's it's it's

03:08:05.100 about sarah i'm not a fan of daddy i don't like that and um daddy also oh my god daddy's uh yeah

03:08:13.420 big you know this um mason yeah sarah abraham yeah so there's the story about him being the father of

03:08:21.580 many nations and she called him her her lord and it's just my husband and i laugh about it so

03:08:29.020 sometimes i joke with them and this is just really just in fun being married he's like annie and i'm

03:08:35.420 like yes my lord and he starts laughing even today he said i said honey what do you think about me i said

03:08:45.340 that to him today actually i was getting ready i was curling my hair in the mirror i said that's cute

03:08:49.580 me lord do you need anything or something he starts laughing he goes oh my gosh i go what

03:08:54.620 he's laughing i go he goes it's so outdated oh and i'm like but now it's fun me lord

03:09:03.420 what is what is chivalry though i want someone to tell me what chivalry is because we've lost it

03:09:09.180 is he like a count count count uh nobody knows the count he's a friend of mine too a viceroy is he a

03:09:18.700 viceroy your husband no i don't even know vassal are we talking about no no he's not about them

03:09:27.900 no what is that that you know there's like lords and then there's vassal lords you know like no

03:09:33.820 i didn't know this was gonna be a warden of the north warden of the north no is this something to do

03:09:40.300 with like the european like culture wait i do want to come back i i so i asked you guys do you

03:09:48.140 consider yourselves artistes yes yes oh yes so another question related to that

03:09:56.300 do you guys know what a magnum opus is and the ice cream wow i love you

03:10:02.380 no magnum so magnum opus it's your like your masterpiece for example can you find can you

03:10:10.460 go i should have known that michelangelo's the creation of adam or uh leonardo da vinci's mona lisa

03:10:16.220 like the masterpiece like their their master work yeah yeah mona lisa leonardo da vinci

03:10:22.700 yeah yeah is there one fuck that you guys consider your magnum opus yeah that you can think of and

03:10:32.620 you're like yes that was my yes we're all like oh yeah that was my masterpiece yeah yeah yes that's

03:10:38.620 i have my daughter making my daughter i had one that happened that's a beautiful um but it was also

03:10:43.900 it was at the ranch and the ranch yes it was at the ranch and well like i mean like i guess um

03:10:49.020 well so he he had come in and um i didn't know they allowed that well he you know the ranch they

03:10:57.100 they you know patron and um okay afterwards he said wow i'm so glad that i connected with a woman

03:11:06.380 he said i was about to do something really really stupid and he got and he said i'm so happy and that

03:11:13.980 time i didn't even know what he was thinking but he said i was going to do something really bad and

03:11:18.780 really stupid but this stopped me from doing it and i was like are you talking like deleting he was

03:11:24.060 going to delete himself uh i think he was going to go on a ramp up yeah that's beautiful but he said

03:11:30.540 he said thank you so much he was crying he said thank you so much he said women have been treating

03:11:34.780 me bad all my life i honestly came here to prove to myself that women are are trash you're just just to

03:11:41.980 be clear yes just to be clear that's yeah you stopped a potential mass shooting yes with your

03:11:50.620 pussy yes wow and i could that's the power of the punini i will say good for you it's a portal to god

03:11:58.700 men come to meet god through the feminine that's that's yeah they come to meet that they come to

03:12:04.620 meet god or life source through the feminine he said that's the basis of tantra yeah he said i came here as a

03:12:10.620 last resort i wanted to see if someone was going to reject me and if they did and he picked he picked

03:12:15.980 me and he said if they did reject me i would have gone and done it and i was just and i didn't i took

03:12:20.940 him in and and did that open up wow full and you know full service everything i have many yeah so that

03:12:27.980 that was your masterpiece that was that was well it might have been the most impactful impactful do you

03:12:33.020 do you feel when i say masterpiece i mean like the actual like the the fuck i guess that one was

03:12:40.140 the actual fuck i was just like magical boom it was just like some movie scene shit oh oh like like

03:12:45.660 like like like you know like fireworks all popping out the pussy i don't know i feel like i feel like

03:12:50.780 if a if a if a man is i guess you know looking back if a man's like in love like you know in love

03:12:55.820 with me or he he wants me then yeah there's always fireworks you know i like i want that okay yeah but but

03:13:01.820 that was i would say the master that was your that was your magnum opus yeah what about anybody

03:13:06.140 else mine's with me and my baby dad i met him in the club which i never ever ever gave my number

03:13:12.300 to anyone i met him in the club and got pregnant in two months and i was in a relationship yep and

03:13:17.500 we've been together for seven years and we created a masterpiece our daughter is that one okay i love

03:13:23.900 yeah it was it was um yeah i mean nick can you pull up the mona lisa please yep that's my mona lisa

03:13:32.780 my baby's yeah get the mona lisa get the mona lisa but we we were brought together through lust and

03:13:38.220 through the club oh wow what is that redoing on the far right there what the i like that one

03:13:46.220 oh my god it was the da vinci she's giving check out my only fans yeah link in bio

03:13:53.900 look at the sketch it doesn't even look like her i love it

03:14:00.060 over there oh well that's a.i they look like they made her in there

03:14:03.740 i like her cleavage that's my favorite part of what they added

03:14:06.620 damn she's got like a rack the tiniest painting i've ever seen no click click the one with the

03:14:12.140 on the far right there i mean obviously the one link in bio damn bro fucking stacked wow that is

03:14:18.060 impressive i mean she would do well on only fans i gotta say good talk uh so magnum opus masterpiece

03:14:26.300 yeah well i'll say one that i i'm really um i put a lot into foreplay and men really enjoy foreplay

03:14:34.460 um and i was working with a guy and he has been to brothels over the years um he belonged to a club

03:14:42.460 that like they come and they'll they'll vote on girls and nominate girls we have this session and he

03:14:48.140 starts maniacally laughing afterwards and i'm like what is going on and it was really good the offender

03:14:54.860 donated 100 i admit i don't agree with sex work however the headline women prevents mass shooting

03:15:01.980 with sex is a story i would read literally yeah no they should yeah so he's laughing maniacally and

03:15:10.460 i'm like what is it and he goes i want to be honest with you i've been struggling with erectile dysfunction

03:15:16.220 for 30 years i've been working with professionals you gave me my first orgasm in 30 years hashtag healer

03:15:25.580 yeah and and it was just like holy cow and it was phenomenal but there's been moments 30 years

03:15:31.820 yes wow yes yeah but he belongs to him a sinboard guy and they nominate us as courtesans of the year

03:15:39.740 and that stuff and but we were talking about how we you know like what you when we walk out to the bar

03:15:45.900 and we sit down with somebody who's requested us and the moment it's on when you like you make eye

03:15:51.340 contact and it's on and you just feel the chemistry and i've had some pretty phenomenal

03:16:00.620 phenomenal sex there was a guy i've been waiting 120 podcasts to use that

03:16:06.140 fucking sound i love you have that on immediate dial i had beautiful he did it real quick too he's like

03:16:13.980 there's an amazing sex i remember one time i did a threesome for this with this couple it was their

03:16:18.700 anniversary yeah and she's i made her squirt and that was amazing i mean making a woman squirt

03:16:26.300 is you know women are harder to clock you know what i mean like

03:16:32.300 and so because she was squirting he started coming and he was behind me and doggy and it was just phenomenal

03:16:39.980 phenomenal i'll never forget that it was the anniversary and they'll never forget me

03:16:45.820 that's great i love it for you i just had a great visual i'm over here laughing because i'm like

03:16:52.540 okay we're watching that's a fantasy of mine that kind of talk oh my goodness

03:17:00.220 uh have you had a magnum opus yes um it was outside of sex work though okay so it was the night that i

03:17:11.420 gave myself to my husband because we had waited for marriage oh that's right yeah well really cool

03:17:16.940 to get into that alice what about you had an in-and-out burger first

03:17:21.820 you got to follow up an in-and-out burger with with some more in and out

03:17:26.620 that was good i liked that okay what about you alice oh goodness yes i have

03:17:31.980 i have definitely had some like career highlights where i'm like that's it this is the moment that i

03:17:40.300 don't think it gets any better than getting paid six figures to take a man through a seven layers of

03:17:48.700 hell fantasy that was scripted over 24 hours with multiple costume changes we're talking fire effects

03:17:57.980 we're talking leathery wings we're talking like soundtracks like this thing was curated and scripted

03:18:06.460 and when i tell you all i had to do was put my hand can you please not do a roman salute please on

03:18:12.140 that man's body and he just immediately boom came i was like that that's all it took it was just hours

03:18:20.460 upon hours of torture and tease and lead up and i did not have to so much as put my hand around him

03:18:25.900 and he was just okay oh i'm like that's it career highlight i don't know i love that sounds like a

03:18:31.900 lot of work yeah sex work is work it is work it is it's fun work my body is affected work we have

03:18:42.060 i got some more notes here we have i loved it i thought that was fun we got we got something here

03:18:47.260 from from annie here so uh let's see um you said that you told your boyfriend that you were dating

03:18:55.660 that you weren't willing to have sex with him unless you were married first and that's now

03:19:00.220 your current husband is that correct yes so you guys didn't have sex until you got married correct

03:19:06.300 so how how long had you guys been uh dating our first official date was october 25th 2008

03:19:15.260 okay but we were talking to each other through myspace before that and on the phone quite a bit

03:19:21.580 i saw him play his guitar on the for the first time february 2nd 2008 that's and then i know i

03:19:27.100 remember all the dates yeah when did you all get married and then he asked me to marry him on february

03:19:31.260 14th valentine's day the next year but he was so cute i love it he was flying uh driving back and

03:19:38.700 forth from california to las vegas because i was living in vegas and i was the destiny house mom

03:19:44.060 i was living there taking care of the beautiful ladies and their their babies and we were dating

03:19:48.940 during that time so he got to see me be a mom to these beautiful children of these beautiful ladies

03:19:53.900 that i was helping and then when we got married it was like the tip of the iceberg we decided to do

03:20:01.500 this but when i first met him the first night i had a ring on replacing this one obviously it said on

03:20:06.700 it true love waits around the band and i put it in his face and i said i just want you to know

03:20:12.300 that i even though you've read my story am not easy for you you're not going to get what you want

03:20:19.100 from me at all i want everything and if you don't want that our relationship is off the table that's

03:20:27.020 right make him pay in loyalty yeah i didn't want to be with him unless literally so you said you're i

03:20:32.780 mean previously you said your body count was like 30 000 plus yeah but your husband

03:20:39.100 he had to wait until marriage yes i know he's a very very patient but she was also in a different

03:20:47.100 state you have to understand she wasn't just completely oh don't you dare

03:20:53.340 oh my listen she was in a different state she was in a different space no sure i get it just it so

03:21:00.060 women can understand their value i didn't understand my value until after sex work i

03:21:04.540 didn't understand my standards until after sex work you know what i mean when you're in it sometimes

03:21:09.660 it's easy to get lost in the sauce i don't know i almost feel like sex work because that is just my

03:21:14.540 personal experience yeah it's everyone's personal right right and that's why it's harder to i'm not

03:21:19.820 just gonna settle with anybody people are constantly hey would you consider would you consider dating you

03:21:26.300 know oh and i will and i will you know but the standard is so incredibly right really high i mean

03:21:34.060 i appreciate where you were saying that you're so picky about who do you want to be with long term

03:21:38.620 because it is so much better to be picky and to have 10 15 20 first dates and realize right then and

03:21:47.580 there that person's not a good fit for you and find that out from the get-go then to start pursuing all of

03:21:54.460 these relationships that are only going to end in a whole bunch of hurt feelings and not a lot of

03:21:59.980 good quality connection we learn more about ourselves as we date others yeah and that's

03:22:07.740 in general that's just humans in general yeah it's a good learning opportunity modest hikima donated

03:22:12.700 one hundred dollars cue for ed push in hamurabi code which also supports slavery what happens when the

03:22:20.220 goats die in 15 years do you harvest and collect all resources children better investment since

03:22:27.180 meaningful to elate that's a lot of good meat if they die yeah as a hunter i'm like that's some good

03:22:36.220 stuff like old old old's not very good i mean i'm not a little tougher but raising meat animals i'm

03:22:43.820 raising uh fiber goats and dairy goats so it's like milk and hair so it's like you shear them

03:22:49.980 kind of like you shear sheep so i mean you don't really eat dairy goats that no you can't get milk

03:22:55.580 from them well eventually they're gonna die yeah i mean all things happy way possible

03:23:01.980 all things die i mean like again it would really depend yeah we don't need to linger too long on the

03:23:07.980 goats or whatever thank god just on just on annie's thing um i mean i certainly think it's

03:23:15.420 good that you chose to start moving differently in your life but just like from a dating perspective

03:23:21.420 if i for example and i know you're kind of an outlier in the sense that you've had like you

03:23:26.060 you know your body count you said was over 30 000 um but if i was interacting with a woman

03:23:31.340 and she told me well the i had previously hooked up with 20 guys and i hooked up with them on the

03:23:38.540 first night but now for you i want to wait until marriage first off i would just say of course it's

03:23:43.900 a hundred percent her call like if she wants to wait that's that's her call but i'm also i feel men

03:23:50.940 in general are within their right to to some degree feel like that's kind of you're you're getting

03:23:58.460 different treatment and and if your husband was cool with it that's totally cool respect it but me

03:24:04.460 personally i think a lot of men would feel in that situation like there that we were getting treated

03:24:11.340 with two different standards it's not fair right it feels a little unfair like because i i've heard

03:24:17.260 this from a lot of women it's like well the jerks the the fuck boys i don't really care about them so

03:24:22.700 i'll just fuck them right away but the guy i actually want to pursue for a relationship that's the guy

03:24:28.140 you make weight and and logically it would occur to me that wouldn't you want to almost reward the

03:24:33.660 guy that you actually care about and want a long-term relationship with instead of withholding sex and

03:24:38.220 using it as a as a uh sort of negotiating tool to some degree yeah i did and i stopped myself i wanted

03:24:47.980 him to elope with me sure and not tell anyone because i was so horny i'm just being honest

03:24:54.060 and i wanted to feel his love for me also in that respect because when i i wanted to feel sex as a

03:25:01.820 love move instead of a body move like it was really a soulful thing to do 100 of me with him yeah and the

03:25:11.020 only way i could do that was to stop myself from possibly treating him like an object wow

03:25:18.060 oh wow because i had done it for so long that was good i had done it for so long every man was an

03:25:24.860 object to me i had switched it so much to where i was in such the power seat that now i had it so

03:25:32.300 twisted that i was a princess queen not the other way around right sure so yeah putting a value on

03:25:42.140 myself in that respect helped me heal on a better level and to see him accept that and say i can f with

03:25:49.740 her okay because that girl knows who she is yeah and i and that that makes me he he was very turned

03:25:57.260 on by that actually yeah and he told me sure and i i think i do he didn't say the f word by the way i

03:26:02.860 said that yeah and i do think women are in this sort of damned if you do damned if you don't position

03:26:07.340 where on one hand let's say you acknowledge like oh yeah i've previously like i just hooked up with

03:26:12.940 guys too quickly i want to change how i move when it comes to relationships like it's tough because

03:26:19.100 obviously it's like well it's like what do you expect brian do you expect women to just ah

03:26:26.620 grid one motorsports donated 100 as an old retired dude i can only say i am so glad i never had to

03:26:35.580 spend four hours justifying my chosen career and trying to feel better about myself my magnum opus

03:26:42.540 is being a faithful husband yeah thank you thank you thank you thank you good one yeah i mean obviously

03:26:48.860 it's like well if you're choosing to move in a different way like yeah that's probably better than

03:26:54.540 continuing to just engage in casual sex or the hookup culture but i if i encountered a woman

03:27:00.380 who's like yeah the last 20 guys i hooked up with it was all the first night but now i've come along

03:27:05.820 now i want to wait till marriage i'd feel kind of like duped again it's her call like i'm not going

03:27:10.860 to like try to so how hard would your love pursuit be then how long would my what how hard would your

03:27:16.620 love pursuit be how deep is your love how deep yeah yeah one of my favorite songs too i love no

03:27:22.300 i don't know it's just like uh i would feel like uh it's a bit of fraud a little fraud i don't i don't

03:27:29.660 have that good self-control i don't have that good self-control no no not with annie like yeah yeah i

03:27:36.220 i think you have like you had to you process through all of like you've been processing

03:27:41.580 through all of what you've done in your life yeah and it's it's been a struggle obviously but it has

03:27:46.220 brought you closer it's brought you closer to the lord so like jesus was my first love by the way

03:27:50.860 exactly mason i'm not kidding you i fell in love with him first i think that's to realize how a man

03:27:55.820 was supposed to treat me i think that's essential yeah that was my model he was my model yeah that is

03:28:01.260 100 valid so yeah yeah i think it's important that oh gosh what the what was the point i was

03:28:08.540 gonna make i can come in i can come in um so when it comes to being fraud and we we've previously

03:28:14.300 reacted here's where it's like perhaps an issue if a girl is making you wait but like all the while

03:28:20.940 she has a friends with benefits but she's making you wait i think that's 100 of fraud that's a fraud

03:28:27.580 and i guess the whole point and i've written this down just so i can be concise so the whole

03:28:32.060 point of a woman having a waiting period before she has sex is supposed to be due to her not being

03:28:37.740 someone that gives away sex so easily so having a man wait implies i'm not easy to get into bed

03:28:45.500 but for a woman like who might have a friends with benefits while she's making you wait it just means

03:28:51.820 i'm going to make you wait an arbitrary amount of time because i want to give you the impression that i'm

03:28:57.180 not quick to give out sex but in actuality i am just not for you gotcha when that's happening

03:29:03.340 concurrent yeah so so wanting yeah and so wanting to build something slowly is pointless if the woman

03:29:10.540 is willing to give out sex to another man who did not need to give her commitment so it just kind of

03:29:17.340 shows that she thinks i think it shows that she thinks very little of the man she wants to make

03:29:21.980 weight i can agree with that herself that's well i mean really it's like putting up fake barriers in

03:29:27.660 the same way that you're saying that there's a psychological reason behind why someone is choosing

03:29:32.060 to respond in that way it's that she's tricked herself into believing that oh if i withhold this

03:29:36.460 from him it's somehow going to mean that he's going to want me more or desire me more i think

03:29:40.780 he's somehow going to be more committed to me we should get is your husband vulnerable he's in the parking

03:29:45.420 lot maybe we should you think he might be he would love to oh yeah well not not quite i just want to

03:29:52.540 make sure we can get through everything and if time for admitting maybe we can he'll explain that could

03:29:56.540 be that could be wait let me ask the chat let me ask the chat what they think nick if you can pull up

03:29:59.820 the chat chat so her husband is uh is downstairs we could have him up in the studio within a couple

03:30:06.060 minutes would you guys be interested in hearing from her husband that could be pretty interesting i think

03:30:14.060 yeah um but before we do that just because i have notes on all the girls here i want to just make

03:30:18.060 sure we can get through all the notes on let's say bring them yeah because i thought this is supposed

03:30:22.940 to be about everybody says bring okay well we'll get to it um we'll get to it maybe in 30 minutes

03:30:27.580 you're getting heavy yeses yeah yeah uh let's see here let's see he said i'm here okay well maybe we'll

03:30:34.700 we'll snag him in a little bit but uh there's a lot of things i want to try to get through let's pull

03:30:39.260 up olivia's news article really quick if you can pull up her news article this is we pulled this

03:30:43.900 up on your previous show i'm a sex therapist i sleep with clients to save marriages now i think

03:30:51.340 this was a big point of contention between candace and you yeah um you you save the marriages by having

03:30:59.020 sex with the couple magnum opus yeah um you know some couples come for different reasons yeah um

03:31:08.940 um yeah i've helped a lot of people but i never said hey i'm a sex therapist because that's not

03:31:15.820 i never said that that's kind of where the tabloids went to make it clickable right so now i've got to

03:31:20.700 put a disclaimer on it but now people are coming for more and more non-sexual reasons to talk things

03:31:27.340 out sure um and that's okay you know that's okay too i see but i've worked with people for a variety of

03:31:33.900 reasons and and the the gal that wrote that story really liked the couples aspect which is fine i

03:31:40.540 mean i i love couples but i i see people for a gazillion reasons gazillion reasons you know some

03:31:47.500 of it's entertainment some of it really is therapeutic reasons gotcha um well we don't need to linger too

03:31:54.220 long on the article but you and candace went back and forth there was apparently a twitter post that you

03:32:00.300 made that she really focused on a little bit uh something about bbc oh big black yeah

03:32:08.460 what was it what did you make a post on twitter about bbc what what was that yeah i mean when i

03:32:14.860 decided to do only fans um you know i started doing porn just just recently because the bunny ranch

03:32:21.340 stopped marketing altogether so i started doing that for myself it kind of a show what you know and

03:32:27.100 it started bringing more in-person sessions in and a lot of people kept saying i want to see you with

03:32:32.940 with an african-american i'm not seeing that and i said okay so i got that going and and so i i'm kind

03:32:40.940 of going back the other way because i always used to kind of advertise myself as more of a gfe and then

03:32:45.260 and then if you want to see me in more of a porn star light go to my only fans but but i would put stuff

03:32:51.580 on my twitter sure as other porn stars do you just give little teasers and they go on over yeah and so

03:32:57.740 she was just focusing hey you know you've got a dick in your mouth you've got you know i mean that was

03:33:01.980 just her focal point to say you know you shouldn't be doing that you shouldn't be putting that on

03:33:06.540 twitter that was a shame on you oh but it was it's wildly popular um people want to see me with with

03:33:13.500 african-americans and they like seeing me outdoors in in public sex scenes i'm just looking at the

03:33:19.100 analytics of what people like interesting okay all right we got mercedes here ex-stripper turned

03:33:24.940 coach sensual healer you say uh you help women reclaim their experience and live a spicy life

03:33:31.740 and i think we already covered it you said all women are sex workers yeah i disagree that's okay

03:33:36.700 i disagree as well disavow that's because you don't understand energetics and that's right i'm

03:33:42.060 truly ignorant well no i'm not saying you're ignorant i don't think that you understand energetics

03:33:46.460 energetics are you talking about like that sexual energy that you were just

03:33:53.340 i don't think that you understand energetics and that's okay energetic i don't know what

03:33:59.580 energetics are exactly i gotta send him the sad guru video when he talks about it well i mean there's

03:34:06.300 it it's i mean we could go to guru has a little video that talks about exactly the same thing but

03:34:11.580 only it's within five minutes and he explains but he talks about like when you awaken it if you're

03:34:16.060 not ready to awaken the kundalini i had a spontaneous kundalini awakening and it was

03:34:20.380 fucking nuts i legit moved to colorado because of it and it was it was crazy but anyways okay all

03:34:27.340 right um you said here that you were in a poly relationship you met your partner in the strip club

03:34:31.580 yeah um you him and another x or ax lived together yeah and then you got pregnant pregnant by my baby

03:34:41.900 dad while in the poly relationship so i wasn't okay so i was in a relationship with my partner we moved

03:34:49.020 to los angeles together and we were like in a pretty open relationship for my own like kink reasons but

03:34:55.740 that's neither here nor there we were in an open relationship i met my daughter's father at the

03:35:00.860 strip club and then we started dating within two months i got pregnant and then at the time la rent

03:35:07.020 was so freaking expensive so he moved in and they both basically just handled everything but my uh my

03:35:15.420 older partner it's like i hate saying poly but i didn't even know it was poly until recently when

03:35:21.020 someone was like that's a poly relationship because i was like well we weren't having sex like me and my

03:35:25.500 my ex weren't having sex for months but it was a really deep emotional connection and we still

03:35:30.620 have a deep emotional connection wait so okay you were you were in a poly relationship and you met

03:35:37.340 your now current i was in a relationship right and oh that's because you said the 13 okay yeah yeah

03:35:44.860 yeah and then i met my partner and then you guys all lived together he moved in with me and my my

03:35:50.700 boyfriend and then my ex-boyfriend obviously once you got pregnant two months into knowing my baby

03:35:56.140 dad be careful what you're saying what do you mean don't just i'm saying just don't don't go saying

03:36:00.700 anything about him no but i i'm curious like um we're like what when you got pregnant were you still

03:36:07.660 poly no i think you're misunderstanding i was in a relationship with one person yeah then i went to

03:36:14.700 work one night i met my daughter's father so then that relationship with one person turned into

03:36:19.900 relationship with two people right and then i got pregnant by my daughter's father so he moved in

03:36:26.460 and me and my ex once i met um my daughter's father we stopped all intimacy like we me and him have not

03:36:34.860 had any sexual intimacy even for months before i met my daughter's father oh okay but we were emotionally

03:36:41.980 like very very very emotionally monogamous was it was it like a dead bedroom type of thing or like a

03:36:47.900 what dead bedroom like you know like a dead bedroom where you don't have sex anymore oh yeah like there

03:36:53.660 was so we we had i was stripping so i do think that sex works sex work can impact relationships

03:36:59.980 negatively sure and i think that's just kind of what happened in that relationship i had a question

03:37:05.180 yeah for you and but when you're done it says for you because i was you know he he said that he was a

03:37:10.460 virgin and and and you like you had that restraint to not have sex with your husband immediate immediately

03:37:17.260 and then i'll let you finish your story so i don't like take over but i i just wanted to ask a

03:37:21.260 question because i'm like dang that's so good of restraint because i'm yeah yeah i think that sex work

03:37:25.740 definitely um uh tainted our relationship because i was so open and then i would like you know be like

03:37:33.420 oh i'll bring girls home and like i kind of gave him that pass to be um disloyal to me and it's so

03:37:40.860 crazy because we had such an open relationship my partner now is like so traditional like so we like

03:37:47.740 literally cry about jesus together like he is so opposite but he's also like not um it's just so polar

03:37:54.700 opposite but yeah i i've seen both ends of like having a partner in sex work but ultimately the

03:38:01.980 partner i have now helped me exit sex work wait just a question your current partner is that the

03:38:08.060 baby dad that's the baby dad okay i see i see um you also said you wanted to talk about shout out say

03:38:13.740 trees by the way let's see you said you also wanted to talk about why women in the sex industry choose

03:38:19.660 shit partners yes you said you could go off oh i could go off on that oh okay you're from new york

03:38:26.620 i am from new york wait you should have shellacked on my east coast comes out a lot put on the accent

03:38:33.660 you could hear it when i say like sauces like or all when i say all what part of new york i'm from

03:38:39.660 connecticut actually but i live in new york temporarily um um go off on so that okay i'll be right back

03:38:46.700 so women who are in the sex industry everything's a mirror so everything in our reality oh my god and

03:38:52.700 i hate saying this because of twin flame university or whatever it is that just came out but everything

03:38:57.500 in our experience truly is a mirror so a lot of the times we attract partners who are just like us

03:39:05.340 while we're in the sex industry and so when you're in the sex industry a lot of the time not all the time

03:39:11.020 but a lot of the time you are leading from your misaligned underdeveloped masculine energy

03:39:16.860 so you attract a partner who's leading from his misaligned underdeveloped masculine energy

03:39:22.940 and it's a mirror so it creates all of this friction all of this trigger if you if you have two cubs

03:39:28.380 who are like not fully matured what's going to happen if you put them together they're going to fight

03:39:33.420 so this this is literally the dynamic you see in sex workers with partners not all the time i feel like

03:39:39.980 it is possible to have like healthy relationships in sex work but a lot of the time you see women

03:39:45.420 who are choosing men who are um using them financially who are verbally abusive physically

03:39:52.540 abusive and it's it's literally just a mirror of and i'm i'm being mindful with my wording because it's

03:39:59.100 not to say it's like it's all your fault but it is a mirror of what you're embodied in in that moment

03:40:04.860 you know what i mean so in order for you to attract i mean this is just laws of physics you know what i

03:40:10.700 mean you attract what you are you know would you say that uh i mean yeah i agree with that sentiment

03:40:18.540 um would you say that uh for a man to be able to rationalize with himself to be with a sex worker

03:40:27.020 he would have to be like he would have to be in his masculine more than you like he would have

03:40:33.420 like so yes so so typically in those relationships uh if since sex work is a lot more masculine it's

03:40:41.740 it's very masculine and it's rooted in the do and survival based energy so you're meeting a partner

03:40:47.900 90 of the time that's also in his do and survival based energy yeah so yeah i i would agree with that

03:40:55.660 um so you it's typically you got to find a man who is so as a feminine you don't find a man you

03:41:02.140 magnetize yeah yeah so it's it's you attract the man the men who are have to be more masculine than you

03:41:10.540 are so women who are more feminine what you're speaking to what you're speaking to is actually a

03:41:16.220 is a power dynamic so it's it's less of a power dynamic and more of a is this someone i can feel

03:41:23.820 safe because safety is really important for the feminine being witnessed is extremely important

03:41:29.020 for the feminine and being held and and meeting a masculine that can actually just be an anchor

03:41:33.820 correct for the feminine so yeah finding a man who is more masculine than yourself that can make you

03:41:39.260 feel feminine sure if you want to if you yes if you want to call it like that way so for me like

03:41:44.540 even with my ex the the thing why we were so attached is because i felt so safe even though like

03:41:50.540 we were cheating on each other etc he had a way of holding space for my feminine that just made me

03:41:55.740 feel so safe so anchored in my experience and then my partner it's like he he now is um

03:42:06.300 accessing that part of himself like he's now and that's because of his own shit his own trauma that

03:42:11.020 he had to navigate through his own you know wound with the feminine like all of that you know so

03:42:17.420 i think that it's possible i met my partner in the strip club i was already i already started doing

03:42:22.940 work on myself when i met my partner in the strip club you know what i mean and that's why i do what

03:42:28.140 i do with helping women who are like transitioning out who are in to help them understand that they don't

03:42:33.260 have to be a product of their environment that they can use it as a stepping stone to attract

03:42:38.780 whatever the fuck they want because we literally can have anything like the possibilities are endless i had

03:42:43.820 a question for you you and you and and this was because now like we've had this conversation i i'm

03:42:49.900 like now starting to like something just you know dawned upon me um i don't feel close to a man unless

03:42:56.060 i have sex with him like i'm like i like i when if i see like a guy that wants to date me i'm the same

03:43:00.460 way yeah yeah if i haven't had sex with a man i'm like i just gotta have him like you know and if and

03:43:04.460 if i don't have him then he don't like me and and i think back off that goes back to your story

03:43:08.780 yeah that goes back to that original story that's what i think that's a whole coaching session i'm

03:43:12.940 like i want to give to your coaching session i think i think if a guy does like like like for

03:43:17.100 instance if like let's say a man like like was a virgin and and he's like if i didn't get to sleep

03:43:24.060 with him i would think that he didn't like me and i wouldn't feel loved and i um i i would just be

03:43:29.580 like oh my gosh i gotta have him and like it's just like tearing me apart and i was like ah like well

03:43:34.380 we have different love languages yeah i know but that's also because you're making it mean something

03:43:38.540 about you so i told olivia this earlier there was a time last year when my partner was so the

03:43:43.660 masculine just operates different than the feminine so when they're stressed and there's like a lot

03:43:48.060 going on in their experience they're not going to look at us and be like oh i want to tap that it's

03:43:52.780 like their their mental is somewhere else because the masculine is extremely in his consciousness

03:43:57.660 extremely mental so would i be in my masculine wanting to have sex with no you're making his

03:44:03.500 rejection mean that you're unworthy and undeserving oh okay of love of love because you're interpreting

03:44:11.180 you're interpreting sex with love like to give my point of view on it so i and i think uh we see this

03:44:19.740 so if you we turn to certain evidence showing that uh relationships are generally hurt by having sex

03:44:26.780 before marriage uh i think and i this is just a hypothesis obviously we can't dig into someone's

03:44:33.340 brain to see how it works and the reasons why more marriages fail because of or there's a correlation

03:44:39.900 between sex before marriage and marriage is failing well i think uh my hypothesis would be that it is if

03:44:49.660 the goal of marriage is to have sex procreate and develop this emotional connection it's a union ship and

03:44:56.860 i think it's okay yeah so it's to create this connection so if we're creating this connection

03:45:03.580 i need to be able to clearly and without any clouded judgment evaluate you okay so how can i

03:45:11.260 i need to evaluate you as an emotional partner yes okay where do we line up morally spiritually

03:45:16.780 i need to start evaluating all of these things that are extremely important that can be clouded by

03:45:23.020 adding sex into the picture like if i'm having sex with my girlfriend yes i am going to overlook

03:45:29.340 a whole lot of stuff yes obviously like there's the desire i want to have sex with her i think that

03:45:35.260 a lot of people misinterpret lust as love and there's oh no i agree and there's a and so i get what

03:45:40.780 you're saying because love is actually a choice you know and it's something that it's it's a commitment

03:45:47.660 and i think that a lot of people lust someone and they they misinterpret it as oh my god i'm so in

03:45:53.100 love i agree i 100 agree with that and so that's why i don't have sex before marriage i love it's

03:45:59.260 because i i don't want to intermingle lust with how i'm feeling towards them well you're desiring

03:46:06.940 unionship and a lot of what we see in like hookup culture is people are more committed to being partners

03:46:13.260 and more committed to being 50 50 and more committed to all this than having a divine

03:46:17.980 unionship and there's a big difference between the two there's a massive difference between the two

03:46:23.340 yeah modest he came a donated one hundred dollars bricks and three for doubting this cast is one

03:46:30.060 hundred percent about dating has taught me a lot about what the sjw's spitting these days

03:46:36.860 number four legit said human attraction you know laws of physics not related at all

03:46:43.260 this is about dating i just said any guy don't a date i have to have sex with or i feel he doesn't

03:46:48.380 love me yeah no no yeah i don't know if he was saying that is that what it is oh okay yeah yeah

03:46:55.420 there's only so much you can get through your text yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah i think that's it's in

03:47:02.060 it is really important for you to be able to differentiate uh i would like you on my podcast

03:47:08.060 physical yeah like so i wouldn't be against it yeah but i feel like brian wants to move on i'm

03:47:15.500 feeling the energy so i think it's important like in my life i want to be able to separate

03:47:21.100 what are my feelings of like like physical desire i need to be able to separate that from my feelings

03:47:28.220 of love and so if i'm cultivating those feelings of love so the emotional connection what do you like

03:47:34.540 what do you think about the bible do you agree with me like on morals like i'm checking off all

03:47:39.580 these boxes without clouding my vision with ah she provides me with sex yeah so that that's where i

03:47:45.980 come from that area and that's actually a really aligned masculine way to lead your life because

03:47:51.420 the underdeveloped masculine is she just provides me exactly yes it's beautiful yeah i have nickelodeon

03:47:59.100 here hold on let me pull this up brian the way redhead is looking at you

03:48:06.220 after speaking yay oldie nerdy you'll be getting the veterans discount tonight

03:48:14.940 you'll also have a puddle of fireball to clean off her chair i'm not sure what that is

03:48:21.260 fireball what is a fire i don't know what fireball is we don't get it because you don't

03:48:29.340 get it because you're a redhead sure i love your red hair yeah fiery personality fiery personality we

03:48:35.500 have a chat here from the golden eagle gold the gold eagle the the gold okay brixton if you get the

03:48:44.220 opportunity to get the lady in purple husband on for an interview if he's willing i'd tune in for that

03:48:48.460 oh did i already read this i forgot um yeah well i think in just a moment here we can have him uh

03:48:53.900 come up that'd be cool yeah last thing we have some notes here from alice alice you said that

03:49:00.620 let's see your first relationship in high school was it was with your two best friends who are also

03:49:05.580 dating each other this is like a love triangle type of thing yep back in high school two dudes

03:49:10.700 no two girls oh two girls okay um if you're able are you able to scoot into the table just a tad

03:49:16.220 ethical ethical non-monogamy slash polyamory and differences between that and having an affair

03:49:23.340 or being a swinger i'd also love to talk about couples first threesomes and then you also say more

03:49:30.780 couples should have threesomes there's lots of benefits to learning from another person in the

03:49:34.700 bedroom here i'll save that till after we adjust that stuff um so you think more couples should have

03:49:41.740 threesomes oh absolutely yes see my view on threesomes is i'd prefer to just disappoint one woman at a time

03:49:54.940 well you see that's why a lot of men come to see sex workers to have their first threesome

03:50:00.700 is because for many guys it's like a goal it's a fantasy it's something that they've always wanted to do

03:50:05.660 they're not sure to help go about doing it it's so much easier to just go to a sex room and be like

03:50:11.260 i want to have this fantasy i want to fulfill it yeah absolutely and seeing a legal sex worker is a

03:50:17.740 great way to do that and when it comes to couples and getting to have a threesome when you bring another

03:50:24.940 person into the bedroom you have an opportunity to get more comfortable with each other intimately as well

03:50:30.860 you're starting to talk about the things that you like and the things that you don't like because

03:50:34.940 now you have somebody new it's not just the same standard sex you've been having for the past 20

03:50:39.820 years on repeat it's different you've shaken it up and now all of a sudden it's hot it's spicy it's

03:50:45.020 new again like if you want people to have successful long-term relationships it can't be the same thing

03:50:50.540 again and again and again you've got to do something different you ever thought it'd be about

03:50:57.660 becoming a politician or like a spokesperson i feel like you uh i am i'm an advocate for the

03:51:05.180 nevada brothel industry i'm the founder of the nevada brothel association i defended the legalization

03:51:11.100 of brothels against multiple religious individuals i yeah she did forwards backwards inside and outside

03:51:17.900 back inside outside okay wow that's a lot of it's a lot of ways i've been doing it for a while now

03:51:24.540 okay all right there you go um you also say porn isn't cheating it's not and women shouldn't feel

03:51:31.100 threatened by prong or uh p stars no they shouldn't madison what do you think about watching what do

03:51:38.220 you think about yeah so many women have this reaction oh my god i caught my man watching porn

03:51:43.100 he's cheating on me he's lusting after somebody else he's looking at somebody else and there's this

03:51:49.180 internal comparison that women are doing with porn stars where they feel like they then have to

03:51:53.900 do the things that porn stars are doing and they feel like somehow he's cheating on them and he's

03:51:59.740 not it's not about you i do yeah no i i do think that certainly there are some women who blow it out

03:52:06.060 of proportion but do you think it is valid for a woman to prefer her partner not consume do you think

03:52:13.340 that's like a valid standard for a woman to have i'd prefer him to not consume any porn so how is that

03:52:21.100 woman masturbating what is she fantasizing about is she reading erotic literature that's just

03:52:28.780 written porn i mean porn takes so many forms and fashions and fantasies i do think some women blow

03:52:35.340 it out of proportion but i think it's a in the same way that men are allowed to have preferences standards

03:52:40.860 and boundaries i think if a woman doesn't want her partner to be consuming porn i think that so long as

03:52:46.940 that's something that's discussed and made it's made aware to the partner i do think it's a valid

03:52:52.620 uh preference to have as a woman yeah and i think that there needs to be a conversation around well

03:52:58.940 how is this man now quote-unquote permitted to then please himself are we trying to prevent him from

03:53:04.380 masturbating at all whatsoever is the only way that he's allowed to relieve himself is with her and

03:53:09.980 only with her because i mean it can take a lot of forms and fashions of control i mean it's like

03:53:14.620 like once you start limiting how somebody interacts with their own body i mean it's a really slippery

03:53:21.100 slope i would much rather have standards around what kind of porn my guy would be consuming like

03:53:28.220 i would want him to be paying for his porn not downloading off the internet for free that's

03:53:33.180 going to end up like filling his computer with spam and nonsense like pay people for their work

03:53:38.620 consume it ethically consume it from adults donated one hundred dollars since when is it a fantasy to

03:53:45.500 contract herpes every show every show to clean the place up otherwise it will be uninhabitable you know

03:53:55.100 what jay butler i'm actually that is a legally binding offer i'm accepting your offer to send us a hazmat

03:54:01.340 suit oh can you dm me on instagram i will send you a uh p.o box and i will you i don't want like a cheap

03:54:11.340 halloween costume version either you have to send us a real one like a proper jay butler are you down to

03:54:18.700 send me a hazmat suit would you i will have madison wear it next next time

03:54:27.180 jay butler like victim

03:54:30.220 madison will wear the hazmat suit next episode if you send it um and what's the term he's a he's a

03:54:36.860 doctor i forgot the exact urologist thank you nick thank you he's a urologist that's why he knows so

03:54:42.940 much about that's why because he's well i still don't heiser said i didn't come on yeah come on

03:54:49.500 the show yeah he stares explain my test results then can i eat oh my gosh i'm shaking over here

03:55:03.660 nobody hears no no you can eat go ahead go ahead i ate somebody's granola and i left 20 bucks

03:55:08.380 yeah so i think uh what do we got what we got to do um oh yeah let's do twitch guys go to twitch.tv

03:55:15.180 slash whatever drops to follow drop us a prime sub let me see uh tay 90 i think i shouted him out

03:55:21.820 uh wavy 97 thank for the prime utsa jennifer thank for the prime teeny sunflower thank for the tier one

03:55:28.140 appreciate it man twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you got one so i think

03:55:34.060 i think annie i think we should bring up uh husband your husband um

03:55:41.740 i think he sat in by the door okay um i think here next to her i i'm trying to uh

03:55:50.060 oh yo ab check dude thank you so much for the gifted 20 memberships thank you dude and thank you

03:55:55.100 everybody else who's like so generously sent in some super chats tonight and um stream labs donations and

03:56:01.900 gifted memberships thank you guys so much we really appreciate it thank you for the patronage

03:56:05.260 he's like i'm already by the door thank you for the patronage guys i'm getting scared because there's

03:56:10.060 people in the space they're getting canceled pearl got demonetized so she says some some things though

03:56:18.060 that are not yeah you and the other podcast you don't say things like that well oh yeah you were on

03:56:24.220 fnf i was yeah two three weeks ago yeah holy my god this guy is on fire energy oh my god yeah that's me

03:56:33.660 boys boom ninja loot skizz tech what's his name yo skizz dude holy bruv thank you dude that's so nice

03:56:44.460 thank you man a hundred gifted subs on twitch dude thank you so much man skizz tech bro i need to play

03:56:52.620 hold on keep the change oh fuck i didn't mean all right i'll do uh yes that's awesome yeah thank you

03:57:03.020 man appreciate it you're awesome thank you this is my first time seeing skizz

03:57:08.140 ski uh so thank you man um are we going down to get him nick i think nick if you yeah also he does need

03:57:16.220 to uh sign a uh and i think maybe we have him where do we have him sit should i we could yeah i guess

03:57:24.940 i guess i think we just move me i couldn't mean i think yeah he should sit next here so i'm almost

03:57:30.860 getting rid of this whatever i think we here's what we're gonna do guys so what we're doing right now

03:57:36.620 is uh annie's husband who uh what's his what's his name oz oz oz fox uh lead guitarist backing vocals

03:57:47.820 of the christian glam rock band striper is coming on the show what's that picture with you guys oh she

03:57:56.140 said he's just at the door uh so um i think can we maybe pull

03:58:03.580 let's pull uh kiki into the corner then we'll just get another chair is there do we got another

03:58:10.220 chair back here somewhere where where we got the chair um there's this one come on you're strong

03:58:16.220 madison you got it girl oh it's fine it's not good keep drag drag her drag her yep treat her like a lady

03:58:24.860 that's right okay that's good yep okay so now we oh we need another microphone that's what we need

03:58:33.660 shit this is going to be complicated he could use my microphone do you want to take a little a little

03:58:39.020 breather is that what you're saying you want to take a little yeah we could do that over here sugar

03:58:43.500 or maybe you know what maybe she we could have uh do we have i think let's all just move one seat

03:58:50.780 over one seat over maybe madison you uh sit on kiki's lap or something i don't know chat should

03:58:57.500 she sit just chill on kiki's lap for a bit is that going to be comfortable just alice is going to need

03:59:01.260 her booster seat yes can you scoot that chair back in just scoot that chair in yeah okay we could yeah

03:59:10.940 we'll have madison back there i guess uh sorry nick nick is here while we are waiting for that guys

03:59:23.020 i have a question for uh

03:59:31.180 i forgot lauren have you had any dms because you've been on the show twice have you had any dms

03:59:37.180 from guys they don't want to see you like they want to actually date you they want to act date me

03:59:42.540 yeah have you had any dude slide into the dm what the fuck is that holy shit oh my god

03:59:47.340 it's just a mop it's just a mop i don't know what's a mop um protect lauren yeah yes

03:59:55.100 so i've had party foul i've had a few um my my issue is is um what's your issue tell us your issue

04:00:03.260 this is my issue what's your issue um is olivia where's olivia olivia is my issue that's what it

04:00:08.220 is where did she go i um so my biggest issue is this do you want to scoot just take this seat

04:00:16.620 or actually maybe take this seat i think sorry guys we're doing a little uh we're doing a little

04:00:24.060 musical chairs here i mean i know that i can't you know i never say never in a sense like oh i'll never

04:00:30.300 date like a civilian person like you know somebody that wasn't in entertainment but the only reason

04:00:34.860 why i do date people only in entertainment or only if they're like a like business owner anything like

04:00:41.900 that oh just right next to uh annie over here is because the safety oh hey

04:00:48.940 welcome wait hold on i gotta play like some special hey guys hey he wasn't expecting this

04:00:57.340 by the way no i wasn't so okay you gotta spit out your gum i have to apologize to tiki

04:01:03.660 for kicking her out of her space it's all good um what's up oh go ahead

04:01:09.500 it's pretty much just the safety i only date people in entertainment because of the safety

04:01:17.660 factor they have a social media they have an image to uphold um or if they're like a business

04:01:23.100 owner like that because if they don't it it ends ugly real ugly it's happened three times and i don't

04:01:30.780 typically date civilians because of those three strikes you're out experience but wait yeah where's

04:01:36.380 is olivia in the bathroom i think so yeah i think she i think she's alice are you coming back or yeah

04:01:41.020 okay okay yeah yeah that's fine um so let's have you introduce yourself tell us how you doing i'm oz fox

04:01:49.180 uh married to annie annie's husband okay and uh we've been married for 15 years i've been in striper

04:01:57.020 the christian 80s hair metal band whoops sorry since uh 1983 so when the band started i'm an original

04:02:06.300 member and uh we've just been going for 40 years now and we're uh still going strong still doing

04:02:14.060 albums still touring and all that good stuff so um yeah is and my wife is definitely my hero okay

04:02:23.900 oh you're so sweet can we just have you pop your hat off is that cool cool yeah just the it tends to

04:02:29.660 cast a shadow on the eyes i get it so uh how long have you been involved in music all my life all your

04:02:37.980 life okay there's a long story to it but basically started professionally obviously when striper yeah

04:02:44.620 got famous as a christian heavy metal band wait can we can we get like a photo of like the like an

04:02:50.620 80s photo just for context i guess yeah you'll see him yeah nick if you're able to it's striper

04:02:56.460 with a y correct striper with a y striper with a y yeah okay let us know once you got it nick

04:03:05.900 yeah there we go there you guys are one on the right right there's that's definitely from the

04:03:12.380 earliest wait nick can you go big on that photo just do right click right click open a new tab yep

04:03:17.740 click over brooklyn vegan what the whoa no that's you scuffed that hold on x out of that it's one of

04:03:24.540 the worst pictures that's hard which one are you do the one on the bottom honey are you on the if

04:03:29.500 you're looking at the top right i'm the one in the far right which is one of the most terrible

04:03:34.380 pictures we've ever done if you go to wait what about the nick the one that's just below us in this

04:03:40.460 image yeah no no no no yep there this one yeah bingo that okay that's from i'm in the middle uh

04:03:48.620 that was from our uh platinum album tell with to hell with which one's you are you on the one in the

04:03:54.460 bottom oh look at his face look at his eyes i got a question yeah did the 80s like smell a lot like

04:04:02.220 hairspray in our case yes okay um that's awesome so uh okay so you were in this band oh the question

04:04:13.420 i was gonna ask is being a christian uh heavy metal what was the classification glam rock they call some

04:04:20.780 called us glam metal yeah hair hair metal yeah there's another one people call this and then the um

04:04:26.860 just overall like radical christian heavy metal okay nobody was doing it back then did you guys

04:04:34.700 have given that you were like a christian band did y'all have groupies oh yeah absolutely okay it was

04:04:41.740 all i mean we didn't have anything any different than any other band except we weren't doing drugs

04:04:47.900 and no drugs partying no women backstage no women nobody like that no no okay but you had groupies

04:04:53.980 just you weren't like just right looking up with um we weren't maybe back we had we had a good let's

04:05:00.540 just say we had a good security system that kept anything like that from coming near us gotcha did

04:05:05.660 you guys um you guys i assume went on tours and lobby yep obviously international or just international

04:05:11.260 all around the world yeah what um your first tour like how many cities did you guys hit oh my gosh uh

04:05:17.100 well first major tour was through the u.s i think it was the soldiers under command tour that was our

04:05:22.940 second album what year was that uh would have been 1986 okay something like that did you guys play on

04:05:30.940 uh what was the is it was it melrose that was well that's where we started was the sunset strip where

04:05:36.540 there was sunset strip uh melrose was a famous place called no no i'm sorry that wasn't uh that was a

04:05:43.100 venue right venues were all over hollywood yeah and um we played pretty much the majority of them as well

04:05:49.980 as a few outside of hollywood that were famous like the country club and received and um so we

04:05:56.540 played a lot of the venues all over southern california that yeah you know we had lines of

04:06:00.780 people coming to see us uh because of what we did so okay yeah got it pretty quick nice and sorry did

04:06:09.100 you say how many like how many cities were in the oh i'm i mean all over the united states all over so

04:06:16.460 that would be like you know we'd be hit per year or maybe 40 50 cities gotcha something like that

04:06:22.460 and uh before meeting annie were you previously married or and he's my second my second marriage

04:06:27.340 yes second marriage okay got it well madison do you want to just sit there while i guess we wait until

04:06:34.780 yeah what are you doing

04:06:38.220 what's having a good time with kiki back there

04:06:40.460 yeah why don't you just take that scene i don't know what nick do you know what's uh they coming

04:06:51.580 back or what is the situation i could text if you want me to do they leave they're both in the bathroom

04:06:58.460 do you want me to text her nick can you just go check really quick and see if they might have dipped i

04:07:03.180 don't know i'm not sure what's going on open the door they left oh maybe they're not okay whatever

04:07:16.060 um okay so you were pre you were married uh before and then i was married for 20 years 20 years yeah

04:07:23.420 okay and then so tell us the story i mean annie kind of uh went over it but we'd like to hear from

04:07:28.540 your perspective um what's the origin story of you guys meeting well she gave you the basic idea how

04:07:35.020 we met we met on myspace and uh through a friend of hers that i had met and became a myspace friends

04:07:42.220 with saw her uh profile and read her story and was blown away at uh what both of them were doing

04:07:48.620 the shoot her friend was someone who went into the strip clubs and helped women you know kind of want to

04:07:54.140 bring them out of that that and and uh steer them a different way and so uh reading annie's story and

04:08:00.540 and her story really uh sparked my interest because uh striper was out doing a lot of that kind of same

04:08:07.180 work in hollywood with all of the uh uh people that would come to rock clubs or whatever you want to

04:08:13.980 call it uh and um just to share people about what we believed in and uh we got a lot of flack from

04:08:21.100 christians because of what we were doing uh wearing spandex and doing the uh hair metal thing or

04:08:26.940 whatever makeup yeah yeah we had well we weren't trying to look like women although that's those

04:08:32.060 pictures look like that's what a lot of the uh church people would say that we were trying to be

04:08:36.380 effeminate like cross-dressing yeah yeah and we weren't doing that at all we're just using it as stage

04:08:41.500 makeup you know um so i mean if anything you know uh we we were just doing what we felt we were

04:08:49.020 called to do and uh so going along with that i mean obviously i felt uh the the the whole idea of the

04:08:57.340 church coming against us related to what maybe annie and her friend might have went through the

04:09:02.540 same thing and that was the whole spiel for me wanting to meet annie was to hopefully be a support

04:09:08.060 if she ever had a situation where she could understand why that was happening it happened to us

04:09:12.780 okay and uh you know i felt like i can share some stuff you know give her some support in that so

04:09:19.740 you know but eventually obviously we met in person uh the rest is history you were such a fan of mine

04:09:25.500 honey i was we do a selfie please you're you're i'm your biggest fan now and i brought a guy to that

04:09:34.300 show and you you thought it was my boyfriend yeah that was a funny thing uh he was very offended he was

04:09:41.580 like i wasn't offended it was no no not you he was oh your friend he was a huge fan of striper yeah

04:09:47.100 yeah and uh i invited her to come see me play in vegas because i was playing with some local bands

04:09:52.140 there and and she came and um that was kind of how it started i started coming to uh uh play in vegas

04:09:59.980 on a regular basis and dating her at the same time so okay it was uh yeah it's it's it's kind of a

04:10:08.620 interesting long story there's more details too we can't do it all in one night but yeah yeah and

04:10:13.340 we're uh just kind of unrelated to your guys's relationship but just your own backgrounds

04:10:17.900 were you moving in the same circles as like some of the other like uh motley crew skid row like any

04:10:23.660 of these those other exactly okay gotcha did you ever like tour with them simmons did you meet him

04:10:29.020 um i think it was gene simmons before we we did this was like the 70s right i think so i think

04:10:35.500 it's like 70s 80s right yeah i guess yeah you're talking about striper yeah you're talking about

04:10:40.540 kiss okay did you ever meet any of them kiss started in in the 70s which i was a fan of kiss when i was

04:10:46.380 in high school right but obviously striper became popular and eventually we gained the respect of

04:10:52.380 kiss we ended up playing on the kiss cruise this uh last year it was a cruise there was a kiss

04:10:59.500 cruise that's wow they did do a cruise they they did a kiss cruise every year and last year we played

04:11:05.100 the last one that they ever you know they're they're retiring now so i see it was okay it was yeah

04:11:11.580 paul stanley was was i videotaped him well it's not videotaping anymore i filmed him watching striper

04:11:18.300 play and nodding his head and grooving with it and i couldn't believe it i was like yeah i'm

04:11:22.460 watching paul stanley love my husband's band i actually i actually worked with gene simmons at

04:11:28.380 the rock and roll rock and roll fantasy camp when he was the head uh uh celebrity on a weekend there

04:11:35.180 and uh we got a chance to you know relate talk and whatever and he he said he admired our band just

04:11:40.940 because we stood up for something and we became successful doing it we stuck to our guns that's

04:11:45.820 awesome it was really great yeah were there any other christian like hair metal glam rock bands

04:11:51.020 or were you guys no no there were some yeah definitely coming up there were there well i

04:11:56.460 wouldn't say copycats you know everybody has a calling i know and if you have a calling to do

04:12:00.940 something you're going to just do it with your passion and i have really good friends that did

04:12:05.260 that same thing that we did it's like they didn't know that you could do that and then they saw this

04:12:09.900 band yeah oh you can do hair metal and love god and love the lord another another very popular uh

04:12:18.620 hair metal band if you want to call that it was a band called blood good which i ended up being

04:12:23.740 in the van later on in like 2006 because they had asked me to be a part of it and we did an

04:12:29.340 album and toured a little bit it was really cool i wasn't talking about them honey you just do backing

04:12:34.300 vocals right you're not i'm a guitar player and i sing backgrounds but i can lead sing which i've had to

04:12:38.860 cover for the great i've had to leave i've had to cover for the lead singer of striper when he got

04:12:43.900 sick and couldn't sing a few times can we hear something what's that can we hear something

04:12:50.460 throw me under the gun here i did not ask them to do this what do you want me to hear i have a guitar

04:12:56.300 i can't get the guitar what's not a guitar it's not acoustic though it's electric oh plug it in

04:13:07.500 plug it in yeah if you got an amp i can plug it in but i don't have though oh well yeah i don't think

04:13:15.340 it's gonna work yeah it might not work because you don't have an amp if it's electric you gotta

04:13:18.860 have it it's just gonna you'll hear it you won't you won't hear it yeah no it's gonna go

04:13:21.740 yeah nick no i think it's it's electric never mind but anyway yeah i mean singing you know that's

04:13:27.180 just something i've done since i was a kid naturally so uh it it just stands to reason i uh you know

04:13:33.020 would be an entertainer in my later years maybe we could hear something what's your favorite what's

04:13:37.260 your favorite line in your favorite song my favorite line like your favorite like something

04:13:43.980 that just stands out for you that like you feel on a soul level i mean if anything um

04:13:51.260 uh i mean i love beatles oh and so i was laughing i was laughing at madison yeah yeah no we love the

04:13:59.500 beatles i love the beatles and i mean all you need is love is oh we love my gosh that is probably

04:14:07.740 speaking to so many people's you know into so many people's lives over decades and and those guys were

04:14:14.380 just amazing and it's you know they just released something new and yeah and we're all excited about

04:14:18.620 it so um i guess bringing it back to the dating talk here so um when your first message to annie and if

04:14:27.180 i recall correctly was uh i for something like you saw on her myspace that she had been an escort

04:14:37.180 and is that what caught your eye or was like what what was your first message to her on myspace well

04:14:42.540 what caught my eye basically about her was mainly when i could tell out of her uh paragraphs of stories

04:14:49.900 and whatever her heart was just so genuine and uh and she really was dedicated to her faith which was

04:14:56.860 something i missed in former relationships and uh and uh i really felt like that was something that

04:15:04.220 actually after my divorce to my first marriage i i made a list uh uh to myself of what i would

04:15:12.620 want you know to to be in the next person i would be with but it would have to match so well that you

04:15:19.900 know would have to be god that would bring it to me and and uh and then all of a sudden when i met annie

04:15:25.420 god went above and beyond the list that i created for myself because that's true that's what happens you

04:15:31.660 don't know what you want more than what god knows what you want he knows what you need actually what

04:15:35.500 she needs so so for me for me it was important to stick to that and then meeting annie and seeing how

04:15:43.180 she was uh personally and in real life and dating her and seeing those awesome attributes in her um

04:15:52.220 um it it's it's that's what sealed the deal just watching her how she was around kids i have kids

04:15:59.100 i have three kids and uh is watching her with my kids was like unbelievable her heart was so genuine

04:16:06.780 and so loving and so for me that meant so much uh as well as as as as well as how how her faith was so

04:16:16.220 solid and and and to me that meant more than what her past was her past it was meaningless she was

04:16:23.980 forgiven for her past she's a different person so yeah i was gonna ask you about that i mean did you

04:16:28.860 have um were there any reservations or any concerns no i had no reservations it was one of these it had to

04:16:36.460 be a divine thing because i could have been that way but to me it was like why i mean what is that gonna

04:16:43.020 how's that gonna benefit myself to keep holding on to something like that that you know it really

04:16:49.100 doesn't matter because she's now new she's transformed you know and i believed it wholeheartedly because i

04:16:54.700 watched her i saw her talk i saw her love for other people and that's what changed my heart about any of

04:17:01.340 that it i didn't have to even ask her about it god i mean what but was there anything like any concerns

04:17:08.380 in terms of well she had done this kind of work or she had been with a lot of men was that ever

04:17:15.500 never even crossed her never crossed my mind crossed her mind no you're a strong man for i don't

04:17:20.380 think so i don't think it's that difficult okay you're godless i really don't if you've got the

04:17:24.220 holy spirit in you then you are just you see her with the eyes of god okay i love that yeah yeah

04:17:29.660 that's that's unconditional love yeah and i think earlier on in the conversation annie you had

04:17:35.660 mentioned something about i forgot i don't want to misstate your words but you said something about

04:17:43.580 ways in which you guys are married correct yeah um the ways in which your husband has to

04:17:50.140 put up with you i i think that's what you said and so what did you mean by that like do you feel like

04:17:57.340 puts up with you like oh but if i have any trauma episodes or if i get triggered or something

04:18:03.180 he he's like designed for me to be my pillow okay to to comfort me in those times when i can't handle

04:18:11.740 a situation and i freak out and that does happen when you have you know complex trauma yeah and most

04:18:18.140 ladies that i've met that have left you know coming to us for help by the way us not trying to find them

04:18:24.940 these beautiful souls that come to us because they're completely traumatized by the way they've been

04:18:29.740 treated it's really important that they're with people that understand that they're going to have

04:18:37.340 sometimes trigger moments or just moments that they're going to freak out but it's okay to be

04:18:43.100 that way it's okay to be yourself it's okay not sure it's okay not to be okay in other words i'm not

04:18:47.900 talking about becoming a mass murderer or destroying a house and breaking all the windows and you know

04:18:52.860 things like that you need to really get help but any type of um thing that i might do and i'm not

04:18:59.020 saying anyone would do anything like this but like i don't know if i gosh what would it be honey

04:19:05.260 because i can't think of something i mean except for what happened this morning let's just put let's

04:19:09.420 just put this way nobody's perfect yeah everybody's broken even me okay every human in this world is broken

04:19:17.340 and there are things we all have to learn to maneuver around each other with uh that's why

04:19:23.900 the band striper has been together for 40 years because we've learned how to love each other well

04:19:29.340 sure and you have to do that in a relationship what i think is really cool is because you're a musician

04:19:35.500 so you probably experienced you know women that were sex workers probably just throwing themselves

04:19:41.500 at you and you that's funny that you say that and that's what's so interesting because it's like

04:19:45.260 there must have been something really different about her because there probably were other women

04:19:49.180 that were like you wouldn't look past their past like you chose to look past her past but

04:19:55.020 other people you were like i'm okay like i'm not gonna proceed that's really cool well the thing about

04:20:03.260 again when because i was a faithful believer in my christianity it taught me that i have to put

04:20:12.380 the woman that i'm planning to be with or or uh i guess you could say i pursue i have to have to be

04:20:20.620 a person that's faithful and i can't just let every woman be yeah a distraction for me yeah that was one

04:20:28.540 of the things that kept me modest he came a donated one hundred dollars hookers for jesus's literal

04:20:35.580 blasphemy straight up fraud kids with another woman that you abandoned for rock and roll life and

04:20:41.980 married a literal hooker no shit you're broken hashtag grab the rocks yeah and hey he was without

04:20:49.740 sin cast the first stone okay anyway yeah um yes yes uh so i mean if anything guys i mean

04:20:57.900 this was divine yeah it's a divine this was not something that just happened out of nowhere

04:21:04.460 in my opinion i believe that there is a god and that he put us together because he ultimately knew

04:21:11.180 what we both needed i think it's also extremely important to realize that you guys didn't just

04:21:17.340 like because i mean you you were divorced and you had a promiscuous lifestyle and there's obviously

04:21:23.420 baggage that came with that but working through that like turning to god and seeking like how do i deal

04:21:31.260 with this there is grievous sin in my life and i've had sin in my life that i've had to work through

04:21:37.020 but like working through that i think is a very important step that a lot of people obviously it's

04:21:43.260 not comfortable to go through but it's necessary and i think you guys have done that beautifully and

04:21:48.860 i commend you for that thank you because yeah i mean that's why your band is stuck together that's

04:21:52.700 why your marriage has survived because you put yourselves in the position where we need to work

04:21:59.020 through this and we're going to do that together it's going to be hard it's going to be difficult

04:22:03.340 but i told you till death do us part and i mean that you you know i want to just say something

04:22:09.340 mason it's the weirdest thing because we get asked do you guys fight do you guys have a lot of arguments

04:22:15.420 and can i just tell you just in front of you too i i could probably count on one hand how many times we

04:22:21.820 really argue where it was very serious yeah i i mean i could think of the two times only

04:22:28.860 two times like the two things you know exactly what they are too is right when we first got married

04:22:33.420 and that one time you got sick anyway um so but other than that simple silly arguments and

04:22:42.540 before we go to bed we kiss each other i love you we love the same tv shows we like we're total

04:22:47.500 trekkies we love sci-fi um we just we just click like it's like peas and carrots yeah you know that's

04:22:56.460 yeah i i can't explain it like and i it's i think that's important yeah like i think you obviously

04:23:04.060 respect your man and like and you love your wife so there is there is that we like this has to work

04:23:13.740 and we need to be able to that book too by the way the praying wife i would love and respect i would

04:23:19.180 die for this woman exactly okay like christ died for the church well yeah he quotes that a lot that's

04:23:25.980 what i'm taught because i learned that and that's what i'm encouraged with yeah so i mean that's the

04:23:32.940 reason why i think i would tell my daughters hey find a good christian guy that's you know yeah

04:23:39.980 that's i know what comes with that i know what he's being taught yeah he's being taught to love

04:23:44.620 you like christ loved the church and died for it yeah and to me that's important he knows how to be

04:23:50.220 a man he knows how to stick to his guns that's right and he knows how to protect the people that are in

04:23:55.500 his life yes yeah something powerful that you said that i was speaking to earlier is how you you had to

04:24:01.580 become basically like what you wanted to attract with her and i just think that's so beautiful and

04:24:07.340 that's literally what i was saying earlier when i was saying like with sex workers we attract a lot

04:24:13.020 of the same people and it basically around like the energy that we're in and so we're we're attracting

04:24:19.340 these like subpar like shitty relationships but it's literally just god trying to provoke us into

04:24:24.540 seeing ourselves you know wow yep absolutely um we're gonna transition into the after show

04:24:31.260 for 20 ish minutes or so 25 minutes then we're gonna wrap up the show oh can we get the lights

04:24:38.060 going maddie if you can get the lights going on um so we've lowered the tts threshold we've lowered the

04:24:44.460 read threshold it's 20 and up to read slash answer tts is set to 69 and up that should be working as of

04:24:52.780 right now so if you guys want to get any of uh last minute questions in and then we're going to wrap up

04:24:57.740 here we're going to wrap up here very shortly so i'm trying to think uh by the way there's a con

04:25:05.820 i don't know if you guys can hear there's a concert uh going on you playing afterwards

04:25:11.020 not me i'm off you did this didn't you honey

04:25:15.660 yeah so um before we wrap up does anybody have

04:25:21.260 any final thoughts or any oh i wanted to pull up your instagram let's pull up

04:25:24.620 annie's instagram oh i've got two of them in vegas denoted 100 let me counter the other guy's

04:25:31.900 attack slash statement dude your music literally played a huge role in saving three of my buddy's

04:25:38.220 lives and souls at my church camp growing up thx for listening to him god rocks wow

04:25:47.900 there you go hell yeah striper sweet thank you jeremy appreciate it man thank you thank you um

04:25:53.900 wait what were we gonna pull on oh the instagram and he's instagram uh hookers for jesus yep uh

04:26:00.700 scroll down i just want to read some of these um scroll down i like the color yeah yeah i love my

04:26:08.540 colors i like the color scheme it matches your your hair and stuff

04:26:14.220 these are all my my quotes i say um

04:26:17.660 do you do the graphic design no i have i have some people that do for me yeah pretty good they got a good

04:26:23.020 aesthetic they really they take whatever i say literally sometimes i'll talk to them on the phone

04:26:27.420 and then they'll quote what'd you say and they'll write it down and they'll put it on there so it's

04:26:32.860 good shit all right there you go it's uh some solid graphic design i just followed you

04:26:38.140 oh wow give uh whoever's doing it you gotta give them a raise yeah they're doing a good job oh don't

04:26:43.260 tell them that oh no hey maddie can you get this light the the blue no no no this one the one that's

04:26:50.860 on the ground if you're able to get that one um oh i see it okay yeah we got some lights going you

04:26:57.980 know doing a little after show um do you know how to do it madison it's it's one yeah yeah oh we got a

04:27:07.740 modest to comma i'm without sin you are correct blasphemous you got to be right next to it heathen

04:27:13.420 and i will cast the first stone at your fake ass i'm assuming please oz fox explain your way to christ

04:27:20.060 for us and how it is not blasphemy he's saying you're don't shoot the messenger hey uh yeah no i

04:27:28.460 there's no condemnation in christ yeah okay that's all there is to it if he if he knows his scripture he

04:27:34.540 knows where that's at okay and i i i'm not i'm not condemned i'm saved and i'm gonna be in eternity

04:27:40.220 someday because i i uh dedicated and surrendered completely my life to jesus christ and his teachings

04:27:48.780 and his ways god repent and believe yeah i have a question for oz yeah um what takeaways did you have

04:27:56.540 from your previous marriage that you considered finding a new woman after well uh well i'll start

04:28:04.060 by saying uh my first marriage of 20 years uh i i don't believe was a mistake okay i i believe we

04:28:12.620 we have three kids are miracles beautiful children from that and we had really good times unfortunately

04:28:19.500 my first wife was not uh she just when the band got back together and she she just did not like that

04:28:26.860 lifestyle and she wasn't uh i guess i maybe i wasn't making her happy or whatever it was and of course

04:28:34.380 like i said that goes along with um learning how to forgive and all that which you know i i guess

04:28:42.060 everybody's different everybody's broken right so uh and and we're by the way we're all good friends

04:28:47.020 yeah we are you know we hang out but but what i did did take from it was after the uh the breakup

04:28:54.140 and after we went through all of the heartbreak and and whatever um one thing i did learn was was that

04:29:00.700 my faith in god is what kept me sane yeah through the whole thing gave me the peace gave me the

04:29:07.100 strength and gave me the hope to to to know that god had a plan for my life and and so all of that

04:29:14.300 that teaching just came right right into my heart right from the word that i read that i studied all

04:29:21.660 of the teachings that i got from so many pastors i mean i mean i'm talking like like dozens of

04:29:28.860 pastors that i was friends with or it had something to do with that would support me and and give me some

04:29:34.780 kind of counsel i i was able to find strength in in you know all of that and and i think it was all

04:29:42.620 given to me because god had his eyes on me you know which led me to find someone like annie and uh

04:29:50.460 and and helped me to appreciate her even more and uh and you know as far as you know what happened in

04:29:56.300 the past i mean my first wife is the one my my pastors wouldn't let me file for divorce so that

04:30:03.180 i would be blameless you know because i i had to wait to see if it was going to be something that uh

04:30:09.180 i i guess you could say in the eyes of christianity if i would divorce her it would be me yeah making a

04:30:16.060 decision where it it wasn't me she made the decision to yes yeah you know file and say okay it's over i

04:30:22.700 i don't want to be married i mean yeah the bible even talks about it if like if your spouse is

04:30:27.580 wanting to leave you then you aren't to be like you're not allowed to do that right um but i mean

04:30:34.060 so as a christian like the only there are two ways where divorce is lawful and that's for infidelity

04:30:39.980 in which case you have the choice um or like your spouse is not performing their spousely duties or the

04:30:46.700 abandoned exactly so if husbands have abandoned their wives they're not paying for them they're not

04:30:50.940 providing for them well even and then and then the wives are not provide like providing for their

04:30:56.460 husbands well no not necessarily providing let's just say in my case it would be uh nurturing leaving

04:31:03.260 leaving the relationship okay when you when a person leaves the relationship says i don't want to be

04:31:08.700 married to you anymore even whichever it is and hands you papers of divorce yeah that's not your

04:31:13.740 that's out of your control yeah no yeah exactly and you're the bible says to let them go yeah you

04:31:19.180 have to let them go yeah exactly you know i mean i don't think there's anything wrong with

04:31:22.620 reconciliation but if the other person doesn't want to reconcile i agree then it's out of your

04:31:26.140 hands yeah you can't and that that was my yeah that was my scenario yeah and it's good that that's

04:31:31.340 the route you chose yeah yeah it's it's tough though it's not an easy road no that's that's really

04:31:37.500 difficult i i those are my nightmare scenarios when i am sitting alone at night i am terrified that

04:31:44.060 stuff would happen don't manifest it but i would pray i pray i pray to god that like but but listen

04:31:50.540 to me bro i'm gonna be honest with you that's where your faith comes in man exactly i agree you're

04:31:55.100 if if you get a relationship it could be the most perfect relationship ever and there's ways that

04:32:02.060 the other person if they're not i mean i've read joe plenty of times okay i know yeah it can change

04:32:08.700 things can change very quickly yeah yeah so i mean you know your only true hope is in god and i agree

04:32:15.820 what he does in your life and is he really enough if if everything in your life was taken away

04:32:21.660 is god enough absolutely that's what happened to me too you guys sex work i hit rock bottom yes

04:32:28.060 that's why i say that sex i had so many actually but this was the worst was my overdose and i was

04:32:34.780 you know i i want to say we had a girl who was on this i'm totally derailing the conversation

04:32:42.380 her father was in rat was a what he was in rat i was on that show the the band oh rat

04:32:50.140 rat okay you know you know i know i know the guys from right yeah and we know uh steven uh piercey and

04:32:55.820 uh trying to remember we were just hanging out with him a couple months ago uh crosby wait oh uh robin

04:33:01.180 robin he passed away yeah her daughter was as i've been a guest on the show okay awesome

04:33:06.380 wow um let me get a couple of these chats here we have jeremy in vegas too modest learn humility

04:33:12.780 and grace my dude oz is no fraud and annie's work with metro's beyond stellar step off brother i've

04:33:19.980 got c notes too and i can go all night come on jeremy jeremy if you know if you're who i think you

04:33:28.620 are dude you better drop one more yeah say something else we know because we know who jeremy

04:33:33.820 is jacama he can go same jeremy yes it's jicama it's that white crunchy um fruit mexican uh

04:33:43.740 mexican food yeah it's really good it's like a white crunchy yeah yeah yeah well anyway that's cool

04:33:51.420 uh we have bang bang lulu forrest gump and jenny happy ending christ is king

04:33:58.620 because i said peas and carrots okay that's good we got nickelodeon here let's get this straight beta

04:34:04.860 mail is left by wife goes on to myspace to search for a prostitute she won't sleep with him unless he

04:34:09.660 marries her so he proposes damn glad you're happy yeah don't shoot the messenger i gotta read

04:34:15.980 people have funny ways of twisting things yeah i'll read the rest maddie's reading the rest of

04:34:21.900 these so uh that's awesome oh we have a couple things to react to wait what was the first one we're

04:34:27.740 going to pull up nick oh yeah today's international men's day i forgot to mention that hey let's go

04:34:34.780 men i forgot to mention that make a party yeah i forgot to mention that in my intro i was going to

04:34:41.100 two but it slipped my mind this is from a instagram called uh the tin men the tin men um can you just

04:34:48.380 in the scroll the images yeah no no it's uh yeah it's just a bit to your yep that one it's international

04:34:58.460 men's day a day to celebrate the wonderful men in our lives the essential role they play in society

04:35:04.620 and families and to raise awareness around the various issues that impact them next just don't

04:35:11.020 being a man anyways you guys should definitely check out this blog post from the tin men we won't look

04:35:15.580 at the whole thing just because it's it's long but yeah nick you can scroll through all of them just

04:35:19.420 give each page like a second or something but uh yeah it's international men's day guys so uh you

04:35:26.300 know just thought i'd bring it up this is a very good this is a really good resource um oh yeah they the

04:35:31.740 the u.n tried to make it world toilet day wow that's so typical is it not typical yes because

04:35:40.620 we know what they stand for man hating organization wow the united nations yep the u.n is get out of

04:35:47.660 here the u.n is cucked yeah u.n is useless u.n is cucked down with the u.n um next next one uh yeah the

04:35:55.980 united nations officially observes eight different days for women and girls international day of women and

04:36:01.180 girls signs yeah the u.n is super cucked international day of women judges but they don't

04:36:06.380 and zero for men all of those but they don't acknowledge any for men and boys um oh then

04:36:12.540 there's this gq thing that half of the men of the year were women hello gq woman and the woman of the

04:36:21.020 years oh this is a good one too like all the google doodles like it's uh for international women's day

04:36:26.620 there's a google doodle but there's never been a google doodle for in the international men's day

04:36:31.260 so you know we got to talk about equality what's going on yeah they're messing up i think a lot of

04:36:36.860 people disrespect the masculine they do facts yeah it makes me upset that i i can't stand the whole um

04:36:45.660 i guess rhetoric of like just even on social media everybody going in on the masculine yeah that's

04:36:51.980 true i love i love a man man i love a man exactly i think honey just people people develop masculine

04:37:00.780 and they think that's like the entirety of men it's just it's the masculine energy is beautiful

04:37:06.300 you know what i mean we need it i would say most men out there are terrible examples of what man

04:37:11.660 agreed yeah goes for a woman too yeah i agree and there's a lot of churches that are terrible

04:37:17.180 examples of christianity yeah yep that is absolutely 100 percent uh remember remember

04:37:23.100 the 19th of november please tell me the masseuse hold on please tell me the masseuse to spare me

04:37:29.020 when she overthrows the government uh she doesn't speak english by the way um that's that was clever

04:37:35.580 though i remember remember the 5th of november the gun something treason and plot does anybody know

04:37:41.980 that i can't it goes like remember remember the 5th of november the gun something treason and plot

04:37:49.740 to do that okay whatever yeah thank you stochastic stochastic guy fawkes decay okay he changed his

04:37:56.540 username just for for that very cool what was the other thing we're going to pull up nick there was

04:38:00.620 another oh the tick tock let's do the tick tock yeah go full screen with it and we're gonna um

04:38:06.620 you didn't refresh it did you no because i put it on too speed because it's all right i want

04:38:13.580 everybody's reaction to this oh can you mute it nick oh no but it's it's uh i want your guys's reaction

04:38:19.980 oh can you mute okay no i mean muted on tick tock and then just unmute on okay go ahead

04:38:28.140 what do you guys think look how romantic this is guys wait oh yeah look how i you know a lot of

04:38:35.580 women might wish you know this this is super romantic guys oh yeah oh what whoa whoa what

04:38:43.260 what just happened wait a minute it's me that's me what just happened like oh you went in the kitchen

04:38:50.940 solid nick pull it back up oh okay go i was like why is she mad go the speed just change it to one

04:38:59.020 now the daughter's gonna yell at her boyfriend too or her husband change it to one i thought it was

04:39:03.180 because she was wearing shoes and stepping on the roses go ahead play you don't have to play from

04:39:06.540 the beginning this is really me this is me my partner such romance see right right leads right

04:39:11.740 to the dishes donated sixty nine dollars oh here it is remember remember the fifth of november

04:39:19.420 of gunpowder treason and plot i see no reason the gunpowder treason forgot thank you grid one

04:39:26.780 mother sports thank you for all your patronage tonight men and previous shows uh you're a legend um

04:39:31.580 thank you thank you so much man that's a great movie by the way i love it i love v for vendetta

04:39:36.460 i feel like a lot of shit that's going on in v for vendetta yeah i've never seen that movie i like

04:39:41.500 dark night v for vendetta oh i love dark night is it like dark night yep christopher nolan

04:39:47.340 best i love dark night i've probably seen like 20 times yeah yep your daughter loves that movie too

04:39:52.380 tara it's like our daughter our daughter let's see what else do we have here um trying to think if i had

04:39:59.740 other notes oh um there were two videos this okay this is like

04:40:07.980 this girl sent she she posted some stories and she's a hater she's a hater of the podcast i don't

04:40:16.540 know if this is the first one there's two i don't know what the order is but uh they're pretty funny

04:40:21.980 and i want to show this i was meaning to react to this months ago because she sent this a while back

04:40:28.700 uh let me see if this is the first one go ahead play it nick all right respect to all the girls

04:40:32.620 that are on those like stupid ass podcasts but there's but i know for a damn fact that you guys

04:40:38.060 are that the people who run these podcasts are only like picking like the dumbest people to go on their

04:40:44.540 show so that their producer doesn't sound or the guy who's like in charge doesn't sound dumb but if you

04:40:49.660 guys stop for a minute and pick people who know their worth and like are like not dumb aka me

04:40:57.820 you guys won't even upload the video because you guys would literally sound so dumb like i would

04:41:02.060 literally make you sound so dumb that you will be so embarrassed to freaking even upload the video

04:41:06.940 but anyways that's besides the point i'm gonna answer one of the little questions

04:41:11.900 so the question was should a guy pay on the first date of course the guy should pay on the first date

04:41:16.060 and here's why because a man is a provider a high value man is a provider according to agitate so

04:41:21.020 therefore if he pays for the dinner or whatever the date or whatever he's showing me that he's a

04:41:26.380 high value man because he's showing me that he can provide simple simple and all there's another video

04:41:33.260 so yeah so she says that we would be too scared to upload the video if she was on the podcast and she

04:41:40.060 called first off exactly they're alive i think she wants to be on i think she wants you here's

04:41:47.020 the crazy thing so she made an instagram story and tagged us and i saw it and i like if somebody

04:41:52.940 sends that i'm like come on okay yeah come be on the podcast i'm not if somebody said even if they're

04:41:57.980 kind of being a little whatever insulting like that i'm never gonna be like well fuck you no i'll be like

04:42:03.500 yeah you're welcome to come on the podcast i'd be happy to debate you yeah and then she

04:42:07.980 ducked for like two months she ducked for two months and then she ended up blocking us because

04:42:13.580 i kept so she didn't want to come on she faced accountability and that's what happened no a lot

04:42:19.020 a lot of the women who and i know we're reacting to just one specific clip but there's a lot of people

04:42:24.220 on twitter who talk a big game like oh if i went on this podcast i'd fucking blah blah blah big they're

04:42:29.420 always critics they always say oh you bring on these types of women i judged you blah blah blah blah but

04:42:34.460 it's like and then i invite them and i'm not mean like even if they've talked shit i'm never like

04:42:39.100 fuck you come on the podcast i'll fucking own you i'm just like yeah i'm just like yeah we got a seat

04:42:43.740 like come on come on the podcast i send them my typical invite and they always duck they always

04:42:50.700 dodge so a lot of these shit talkers a lot of girls like that who all hat no cattle she's acting like

04:42:55.980 we do like background checks for every single person making sure they're smart like we're making

04:43:01.180 i think it's how you mark it because i had a prejudgment of you too and i was just like you

04:43:07.020 know what i'm just gonna come and run it and like see what happens and i'm happy i did i feel like it

04:43:12.620 went great i think people are smart in different ways too like in a sense i but i had the same thing

04:43:19.260 like oh they always pick all these dumb girls but it's it's like the way you explained it like look

04:43:23.260 we try to get this and this and this but all these people just duck out i literally think it's because

04:43:27.500 of your market not that it's bad i mean it's working yeah viral clips but you come off you

04:43:33.340 come off more intimidating than you are like i'm not even kidding i'm not kidding i have danced like

04:43:39.020 i'm not even gonna say it because we're on on the air but i have danced and like been with some people

04:43:44.940 okay some high profile people and i don't know why i was shaking on the way here today i don't know

04:43:52.220 why and then i met you and i was like oh okay hey i'm a softy i'm a nice guy i want to tell you

04:44:00.380 though uh chase when i was on here before chase is a little dickens he's a little dickens sometimes

04:44:06.060 i don't know but you don't know him but he's i only know it would have been fun if he was here

04:44:10.380 i would have i i kind of i got a little heart for him i met to my husband i was like i hope chase

04:44:14.300 is there i was secretly hoping chase is gonna be here and jonathan too but anyway but i thought it was

04:44:20.060 it was really uh if anything you're saying you've like when you were involved in in stripping maybe

04:44:25.980 you said you you knew some men are you talking like athletes i thought you meant like oh yeah

04:44:31.340 and gangsta oh my god one time i'm more intimidating than one time can i actually have a video i could

04:44:37.820 pull up watch out bro podcastos masculine energy yeah who had all these chains on and he used to come

04:44:47.580 see me at my club all the time yeah um shameless plug crazy girls hollywood okay great club but he

04:44:53.500 used to come see me there all the time and my friends would be like why are you hanging out with

04:44:57.260 that guy well and i didn't understand why they were like so triggered mind you he had grill rubies in

04:45:03.500 his mouth and on his hands oh shit he had like 20 necklaces on with all these girls names and i was

04:45:09.100 just like like i didn't know and my friend's like that's a pimp like what are you doing and i'm like

04:45:14.380 oh my god i thought he just liked me and that's what pimps do they like groom you of course oh

04:45:19.660 hold on hold on modest hikima donated 69 genesis 38 24 dash your daughter-in-law tomorrow has played

04:45:28.460 the harlot and behold she is also with child by harlotry then judah said bring her out and let her be

04:45:35.580 burned burn her rocks miss chase harlotry that's a that was judah's fault yeah he was the one to blame

04:45:43.500 for that he was he became a buyer at that point he did well she she she was she was uh uh married

04:45:51.100 we're going to be married to one of judah's sons yeah and then the son died so that put her in a

04:45:56.540 position so she uh she obviously kind of like was panicking because she needed a dowry she needed

04:46:03.820 something to happen and i guess he he what did he do did he did he throw her out of the family or

04:46:08.860 something and then she and she ended up she ended up going on the road meeting as he would be in

04:46:15.020 prostitution if you know she dressed up like a harlot she did so that so that she would trick judah

04:46:21.820 into sleeping with her yeah yeah it's like he went after her like he was exactly so it's like willful

04:46:27.580 sinning yeah yeah that's that's the problem it's like so if if annie here was like willfully like

04:46:33.500 presenting herself as a harlot right then that would be a massive issue yeah you're not so wait

04:46:40.060 mercedes yeah are you saying

04:46:45.660 i had you shook like like i'll tell you when we get off air like the people that i've

04:46:51.900 like in count like been in deep relationship with but i was i don't i literally i'll show you text i was

04:46:59.100 like i don't know why i'm so freaking nervous to come on this damn podcast i was praying you don't

04:47:04.540 even know the i don't even know where they came from the prayers you start praying from deep in my

04:47:08.780 loin yeah it wasn't even me i was like jesus take the whale please i got i guess i got some of these

04:47:15.260 girls shook i don't know it's how you market it's you know i think that people are just afraid of

04:47:20.620 looking wrong candace owens destroys whatever no i actually i i don't agree with um candace owens a lot

04:47:27.660 of her views but i appreciate the out of her because she's a woman who uses her voice she's

04:47:32.300 a strong and strong yes and she and she uses her platform to express her beliefs and so i could

04:47:39.580 acknowledge that and be like wow that's so beautiful but i don't agree with everything

04:47:42.620 yeah i was in shock here we got i got a couple chats here we have lpe loose p energy

04:47:49.260 fook that high calorie 304 brian get the rocks get the rocks yeah get the rocks get the rocks who's

04:47:58.780 he speaking about oh not no not anybody here he's the girl in the video which we have another part

04:48:03.820 too oh yeah annie i recognize you from peter santanello's youtube video from when he was in vegas

04:48:08.860 enjoy hearing your stories very much thank you all right we have uh matt what matt texas big props to

04:48:17.020 oz thank you for your music and ministry and for helping me half ruin my voice singing striper wait

04:48:23.660 oh yeah can we hear a little something maybe a little 30 seconds oh my gosh which song well close

04:48:28.060 your eyes you got pipes like i told you i know some beatles songs so let me try one when i find myself

04:48:35.980 in times of trouble mother mary comes to me speaking words of wisdom let it be

04:48:46.620 i'm tearing i'm tearing love it oh we got a great one here sports donated 69 dollars brain what a

04:48:53.660 video for me being on the pod would be nothing but else first camifornia is an l and i'm even more

04:49:00.700 acerbic in person and might say something i really mean and hurt feelings oh grid one how

04:49:06.940 you gonna how you gonna do me like that how you gonna call me brain son uh grid one thank you though

04:49:13.180 appreciate it man appreciate it thank you thank you all right i think we oh we have another one we

04:49:17.660 got jeremy jeremy in vegas donated 69 dollars jeremy in vegas 11 19 backeth off thy hyper spirituality

04:49:26.860 and looketh in thy mirror before casting a stone i agree okay okay okay what chapter is there no

04:49:34.940 all right that's jeremy i mean oh let's the uh the second video nick i think you need to scroll

04:49:42.380 one more oh yeah you can do full screen yeah yeah go go oh yeah we gotta wait for jeremy here

04:49:47.900 were these back to back or did she do one one day and then a month later oh wait hold on we'll come

04:49:53.420 come back to it oh we got the part two it should show me they can provide and pay on the first date

04:50:04.700 i'm like women are sexy so show me you can take dick plus gag on this on the first day

04:50:11.740 whatever that's okay all right um cretin i personally could relate to that

04:50:19.340 shit is crazy all right let's pull let's pull up thank you man appreciate it we got the part two

04:50:24.860 here for you man tell us what you think so before you guys are like oh my chasm but what's a woman's

04:50:30.620 job like a woman's job is just simple she is showing you that she is available for you like she by going

04:50:37.740 on that date with you she's putting all her plans on pause giving you her ability or like what is it

04:50:45.660 called like giving her giving basically giving you her time which makes her which is showing you that

04:50:52.060 she is submissive and allowing you to be part of her day doesn't didn't entertain say that a high

04:51:00.060 value woman is submissive she's already showing you that she's submissive by agreeing to going on that

04:51:04.620 date with you because she could have simply just said no you're too you're broke you're not she could

04:51:10.300 have simply just said that she could have said that and like that would have been the end of it and

04:51:14.220 that she's she's a bad woman like she's not she's not a high value woman or whatever you want to

04:51:18.140 call it or maybe she just has standards but she's even a green so you should act like a high value man

04:51:24.300 too and pay for the dinner common knowledge common she would do great on the podcast i think i think

04:51:31.660 that maybe i should dm her i should message her you could try honestly i don't even deceive her we i

04:51:40.700 i i asked a couple other people to dm her too to see if she'd come on but she cowards seduce her

04:51:46.060 into coming on the podcast you know what's interesting i saw i this is something i i thought

04:51:50.380 about right when i was watching that girl was you know how guys compare their you know they sometimes

04:51:55.820 like to compare their sizes of whatever what and i'm trying to be funny i'm thinking oh my gosh you know

04:52:03.820 do women ever compare their sizes of their nails the length look look over here look these are not

04:52:09.340 i usually have my nails like this and i was like i just don't want to look like a mommy coming on here

04:52:13.820 i literally never i could never live a life with nails that

04:52:17.500 me neither when i'm mine are long usually you know you said that um men compare the sizes of their

04:52:24.300 yeah they're whatever i went to um florida uh recently and i met um i had gone to an iv therapy

04:52:31.180 center and the one of the guys there worked for a plastic surgeon's office and he says men

04:52:35.980 are getting like filler in their you know area but i mean but i mean

04:52:41.180 i've heard that he said that it makes them feel more confident and i'm like hey i mean

04:52:44.860 that i would i would if if a dude did that i would be like okay well if it makes you feel confident

04:52:49.580 like i'm okay with plastic surgery i'm okay with filler and everything like that it's the beauty

04:52:53.900 it's the beauty standard that yeah that makes me sad i know yeah if they really feel it if it

04:52:59.260 was he said it was a couple it was like three grand or something four grand and he said that

04:53:02.860 it's filler and he said it really and he showed me before and after pictures on their website they

04:53:07.100 have before i've looked it up don't ask me why yeah and but i mean it's like i came to think

04:53:11.500 about like hey if it's making them insecure medically speaking guys i mean there are

04:53:15.420 the guys older men that can't you know have those things happen yeah and they have special things

04:53:23.180 that help them yeah that are actually you guys know yeah the button matters the button yeah there

04:53:29.900 are those things out there there's also an implant button yeah it's like a plastic thing and it goes

04:53:35.260 inside and you have to pump the i mean that's an actual thing you know it's not i'm not just making

04:53:40.460 fun of it it's actually something well i told you a lot of stories honey too but but you know i want

04:53:45.420 to say that i really do appreciate women in their nails i think it's really awesome i wish i wish that

04:53:51.420 uh i could do my nails like but i don't feel comfortable but i have them long enough to play

04:54:00.300 pick pick guitar strings so you know there you go there's my contribution too nice nice um any final

04:54:08.300 thoughts before we wrap up here we gotta wrap up here in just two minutes anything anybody anything

04:54:13.100 i had a good time shaking yes i'm trying to wrap it up i want to thank you all for having me on

04:54:20.300 that was yeah thank you this was a surprise it was a surprise and i really i like spontaneity it's

04:54:24.620 really yeah thank you for coming on impromptu like this much appreciated thank you thank you

04:54:28.540 thanks for redeeming me us oh i have a final thought all women are sex workers

04:54:34.620 no just about no no

04:54:39.900 i love it um here i'll send the asteroid for that one

04:54:43.100 i have one last thing to say

04:54:46.780 we just need everyone 69 dollars boss your take on science and stats with pair bonding did

04:54:54.460 annie not pair to you for money and fame is that really enough for you sure great sex low bank

04:55:01.900 account she rides your coattail congra wow quick response quick response really you guys waited till

04:55:10.220 marriage right that's right yes we did that's right we waited and that was that was oh that was

04:55:17.020 not only her decision but i was already thinking that before she showed me that

04:55:20.380 yeah you know the ring that she had for chastity so to speak yeah modest jacama you doubt the power

04:55:27.180 of god yes that's it we have it okay we have opc don when will andrew wilson's friend grace thorpe

04:55:34.460 be on the show she's got great takes on dating i'm not familiar with grace thorpe um andrew wilson we

04:55:42.300 just had him on i think we're gonna have him back on again soon uh i'll have to check her out thank

04:55:46.860 you for the recommendation opc don uh and i think uh we have one more chat here uh dr clockwork

04:55:53.900 brian's intimidating because no one wants to look stupid you're older and better prepped than your

04:55:57.980 guests as i said both myself and my wife are in the adult industry and want to debate you who do we

04:56:02.940 contact uh you'd have to we'd have to see who you guys are obviously you can dm at whatever on

04:56:10.380 instagram thank you for the message man appreciate it okay um let's go ahead i need to wrap up the

04:56:15.020 show nick can you pull up twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a

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04:56:41.500 the tier one skizz dude thank you again for that big 100 community sub gifts you sent about an hour

04:56:46.620 ago super mexy thank for the prime really appreciate it twitch.tv slash whatever drops a follow drop us

04:56:51.580 prime sub thank you guys thank you thank you all right guys um let me see if i have any other things

04:56:56.140 here i think we're that's that's totally it okay guys um hold on sorry the ig video yeah what what's

04:57:05.980 that girl the makeup like with the makeup yeah no no no we're not gonna we'll we'll do that another

04:57:10.860 show all right guys last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in

04:57:14.780 tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you

04:57:18.540 to everyone who so generously super chats donates and supports the show big thank you to grid one

04:57:24.140 motorsports jay butler raven dt cam h uh lpe modest hikama did i say it right this time

04:57:30.060 hikama jeez i can't get it uh stochastic decay guy fox real yes uh oh revealed no we can't do that

04:57:37.580 um and she doesn't speak english she's you know korean whatever uh and just uh yeah just paid

04:57:43.580 masseuse you know because i knew tonight was gonna be a stressful show so i had to hire like a massage

04:57:48.700 therapist i don't know if i'm gonna probably won't do it again but uh yeah um okay so big thank you to

04:57:54.860 the wonderful panel thank you guys for making it to the end here um any women who wanna be on the show

04:57:59.420 and you can make it to Santa Barbara.

04:58:00.940 DM at whatever on Instagram.

04:58:02.240 The masseuse listens to future.

04:58:03.480 Mask on, fuck it, mask off.

04:58:05.180 Chase a check.

04:58:05.980 Never chase a bish.

04:58:07.860 Yo, thank you, man.

04:58:08.800 Much appreciated.

04:58:10.600 Let's see.

04:58:11.980 We will be live again Sunday.

04:58:14.160 Sorry, sorry.

04:58:14.780 Excuse me.

04:58:15.300 We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.

04:58:18.400 We got a very solid show for you on Tuesday.

04:58:20.620 We will see you guys next time.

04:58:23.280 Actually, let me just double check.

04:58:24.360 Make sure we got all the chats.

04:58:25.500 I don't want to leave anybody hanging.

04:58:26.920 No, I think that's it.

04:58:28.280 Okay, guys.

04:58:28.760 We will see you guys next time.

04:58:31.220 Thank you so much for tuning in.

04:58:32.680 07s in the chat.

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04:58:36.640 We'll see you next time.

04:58:37.700 Good night, guys.

04:58:38.720 Good night.

04:58:39.180 Peace.

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