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00:02:49.020 guys all right we're gonna have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location

00:02:53.720 and occupation go ahead i'm alex and i'm 23 years old and i'm from new york but i live in california now

00:03:00.540 all right welcome and oh my occupation yeah go ahead okay um i do only fans with my fiance

00:03:06.840 your fiance and i babysit too what's that i babysit too and i do only fans those are not related i'm

00:03:14.540 okay yeah i do both okay you do with your fiance yeah overboard humor okay cool what about you

00:03:23.320 uh my name is kiko i'm 24 i live in santa barbara and i'm a bartender and a full-time student

00:03:29.540 what do you study uh what are you studying criminology okay what about you um my name is

00:03:35.760 aurora i live in la um i'm 18 and i do only fans welcome thank you my name is maya um i'm 26 i live

00:03:44.820 in los angeles and i do compliance and administrative for cannabis for cannabis yeah the cannabis industry

00:03:52.120 cultivations yeah yeah okay um i'm avery i'm 19 i'm from la and i do only fans and i'm also a student

00:04:00.820 all right uh what are you studying communications all right what about you i'm alex i'm 23 i live in

00:04:07.740 la and right now i'm a massage therapist and i have my own fashion line okay hi i'm kitty i am 33

00:04:15.460 and i do hair and i'm a professional photographer and i live in la now i'm originally from new jersey

00:04:21.660 my name is mason gregoire i am 27 years old uh first and foremost i forgot to do this last time

00:04:31.120 first and foremost i am a christ follower um secondly i'm a competitive powerlifter and uh actually my

00:04:38.740 career is somewhat changing i am a traditional mechanical engineer but uh i am going into air

00:04:45.520 for special warfare um so that's currently what i'm up to these days okay what's up y'all i'm taylor

00:04:53.180 it's tay tay baby i'm from the big la you guys already know i'm a mental health advocate i'm back

00:04:58.700 what's up kiko do you keep looking at uh oh i don't know what's therein dude um i i've been

00:05:06.720 looking at keep the energy you had before remember keep that energy i watch four podcasts with you

00:05:11.840 talking about me so let's do this coming out hot welcome honey i'm here thank you welcome

00:05:17.360 leaf in the room i always just don't know don't act shocked seriously i'm not acting yeah you are

00:05:26.120 okay i was just coming in good vibes

00:05:30.480 wow off to a great start great start uh age 29 29 all right welcome everybody so we're gonna go

00:05:45.120 around the table once more wait i think both you and you forgot something here both of you forgot

00:05:52.620 both of you forgot something what no no no oh mason and you you can go first okay yeah brian

00:06:00.140 wants me to take off my clark kent disguise why why you got put on me it's because you asked

00:06:04.620 oh whoa whoa oh my don't get too excited don't get too excited everybody

00:06:13.120 the giga chat has answered the chat and you wanted to call out pearl right yeah i got something to

00:06:20.980 say uh pearl uh cash me outside how about that bitch oh damn pearl pearl pearl pearly things just

00:06:29.560 her name is so funny in that sentence sounds like you're talking someone's grandma go back to

00:06:36.020 spongebob you want to box her is that correct is there a challenge in here somewhere i challenge

00:06:40.600 pearl to a boxing match yeah okay cool anytime anywhere great okay so we're gonna get everybody's

00:06:48.460 current relationship status so are you uh single relationship married divorced polycule sex cult

00:06:56.740 situationship talking stage harem whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single

00:07:03.300 and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting um i am engaged to my fiance i get

00:07:08.520 married to him next month um overboard humor and my longest relationship was six years how long have

00:07:16.240 you been with uh your current uh two years two years all right what about you i am still in a

00:07:21.880 relationship um we've been together wow i'm surprised we've been together since january 2023 what can you

00:07:29.300 say how many relationships have you been so that's what one year and a couple months three we'll say

00:07:34.440 three months okay yeah and my um longest relationship was like two and a half years all right what about

00:07:41.720 you um i'm currently single um my longest relationship was like two years but it was like on and off in

00:07:48.100 like high school so yeah i don't really date anymore i kind of just do like online dating i don't like

00:07:53.760 doing like irl shit like that's it what do you mean irl shit um like if i have like a boyfriend it'll

00:08:00.900 be like online like i don't like having like in real life boyfriends like i don't fuck so you've had

00:08:05.980 virtual boyfriends yeah like discord boyfriends do you currently have a discord boyfriend yeah you

00:08:13.800 you currently have a discord boyfriend what is that um like a boyfriend on discord do you have

00:08:19.920 multiple discord boyfriends um yeah sometimes what do you mean something like the person who

00:08:25.380 pays you the most money or what no honestly it's the person like no like i actually be like liking

00:08:30.220 them sometimes like i don't care like well like i don't know i feel like discord guys like they're

00:08:37.240 they have like like they're not known and i like that you know like they're just random people like

00:08:44.220 on the internet i don't like knowing like what they look like or like who they are you don't even know

00:08:47.860 what they look like well i kind of do but like not like in real life are these like subscribers to

00:08:53.400 your of sometimes yeah okay i wouldn't call that a boyfriend i'd call that pathetic but i like

00:09:02.260 pathetic okay um so not pathetic from a follower not from a not yeah i'm guessing probably from a

00:09:10.720 follower not from a from a boyfriend no okay no they're i call i consider them how long have you

00:09:16.520 been single oh um maybe like a year one year you said in your high school relationship it was on

00:09:22.800 again off again how many times was that one on again off again like probably 10 10 times yeah

00:09:29.660 who was breaking up with who both of us split i was like chasing him like the whole time like

00:09:35.780 but it was like equal like breaking up this was during high school

00:09:40.360 so and it was like two years half and half you'd break up with him he'd break up with you

00:09:46.160 yeah okay and you've been single you said for one year yeah okay what about you um i'm not single

00:09:55.260 i'm in a relationship and i've pretty much always had long-term committed relationships for like the

00:10:00.560 past 10 12 years my last relationship was six years do they call it was that serial monogamy kind

00:10:06.860 of is that what that's called i mean i'm only 26 and i've i've been in pretty much like three long-term

00:10:13.120 okay relationships so so you said you're currently in a relationship how long have you been in that

00:10:17.500 one couple months couple months okay all right what about you um i'm single the longest relationship

00:10:24.700 i've been in was maybe like six months and i've been single for like six months too single for six months

00:10:30.820 do you have any discord boyfriends i do not okay because you guys are friends right yeah

00:10:36.620 she's not rubbing off on you with the discord no no she doesn't even know what i got going on

00:10:41.420 i just tell her about it wait so how much um you currently have one discord boyfriend

00:10:48.480 um yeah how much are you have voice calls with them but you don't know what they look like no i

00:10:56.320 know he looks like oh you know what he looks like okay because you said you like that you don't know

00:11:01.480 what they look like well like no well i do but like i know he looks like but i feel like it's really

00:11:07.660 attractive when i like just know like their voice and not what they look like okay i'm like damn that

00:11:13.200 just knowing their voice how much time do you spend like texting or calling with the discord

00:11:20.740 boyfriend oh like we're probably on like a discord call like right now like at home like on my pc like

00:11:25.280 i think we're still on a call right now so like basically like every day like all day what how are

00:11:32.380 you on the call with him right now when you're on the podcast well like he's like he's in the discord

00:11:36.800 channel yeah it's just kind of like a call like all day like i'll be like oh i'm home babe like

00:11:42.520 i've never heard of that well like no i'm dead eyes like it's funny but like i'm serious yeah

00:11:50.920 there's like a discord talk channel where you can just sit in there the whole time kind of yeah

00:11:55.020 yeah you like private channel yeah right but i assume like you go out and do things yeah yeah

00:12:01.600 and then we come home we're like hey babe

00:12:03.800 what the fuck okay what about you i'm single i've been single since november

00:12:12.220 um so what six months yeah and uh my longest relationship was almost three years long three

00:12:19.960 years okay got it uh what about you i'm single um i guess since november but a little update uh i

00:12:29.880 guess i was just around that same ex recently for three weeks and uh yeah we're not fucking with

00:12:35.820 each other again so technically two weeks wait single they broke up in november they recently

00:12:44.440 started talking for three weeks and then now they're not fell out again okay uh longest relationship

00:12:52.800 three and a half years three point five years all right uh i'm currently single um i mean going into

00:13:01.280 the air force it's not super conducive to having a relationship um longest relationship is about a

00:13:07.620 year now it was a year exactly um yeah and what's your status like my current status like your uh

00:13:15.240 oh my status okay yeah yeah i'm a virgin i'm waiting for marriage um there you go waiting to find the

00:13:22.660 right woman you know i had i had a girl dm me yesterday christian virgin she's like can you

00:13:31.060 introduce me to mason yeah yeah were you interested or not he's all nervous i no i mean like like i said

00:13:38.600 i'm going into the air force especially the special warfare route there's like the pipeline is about two

00:13:44.140 years long so unless someone is going to wait two years just pining for me yeah but you're going in

00:13:50.460 is enlisted right so don't you get like if you're married don't you get some extra benefits in the

00:13:54.400 military yeah you do but like i'm not looking i'm not just looking for benefits oh that's fair and

00:14:01.380 like a wife i'm not looking for the status of being married like i'm trying to find my partner and that

00:14:08.080 partnership would be greatly hindered for like two years and i'm just not really looking for that right

00:14:12.680 now okay uh taylor what about you longest relationship six years i've been single for two

00:14:18.240 um and not currently dating all right great well um are you guys gonna box is that what's no what

00:14:28.500 happened i thought you said you wanted to you're the one who was running your mouth yeah i'll get

00:14:31.960 i'll do it for free you could stand up if you want to damn right now no we should no no clear this

00:14:36.880 table say that you should stop talking and running your mouth online i said for 10k i will fight you

00:14:40.880 that's so true change the split like that if you're not a person who gets down just let it go four

00:14:45.420 times on a podcast you run your mouth i'm cool with everybody but once you start saying stuff

00:14:49.320 like that i'm with the shits and you're not so callate like i told you last time and then you're

00:14:53.660 all quiet now you had a big mouth last time that's the thing i'm getting bothered by you're acting so

00:14:58.340 oh what happened what happened was that like two years ago dude you just was on a podcast why are you

00:15:04.460 acting like that i haven't seen you i think the last time i saw you i was single the gas lighting

00:15:07.860 like crazy 22 literally i don't really like care that much about that then you should shut the

00:15:12.600 fuck up then damn that's enough stop talking that's it you don't want to scrap so that's

00:15:18.120 stop talking please once again for 10k i would gladly get you're not gonna do anything for 10k

00:15:23.240 oh i would get your ass whooped for 10k that's fine that's 10k i still have at the end of the day

00:15:26.540 those wounds will heal i will have 10k what do you mean grid one motorsports donated 200

00:15:32.460 not to do is 304 groupers yet but they seem to be striving for it mason old bean are you doing pj

00:15:41.880 school too bad flannel daddy has retired and you won't have him for seer good luck yeah i know really

00:15:49.080 that's it's um actually i'm not going to pj i want to go sr uh special reconnaissance pj's school

00:15:55.780 sounds awesome not gonna lie any of the air force special warfare routes sounds cool but

00:16:00.680 sr kind of has my name on it thank you grid one right can you guys let's not i don't want

00:16:09.380 violence like no fighting on the whatever podcast if you guys if you guys i appreciate if you guys

00:16:14.480 want to like argue that's fine but let's avoid any actual violent confrontation i'm not kiko

00:16:20.100 hey if we can agree no no if you guys want to respect you i'm not gonna do nothing i'm big

00:16:26.540 chilling right thank you taylor no let's avoid any any violence belligerence if you guys want to

00:16:35.920 debate stuff we can do that that's why i came here i think we should yeah that's why i'm here

00:16:39.720 debates okay debates all right good talk uh is the audio muted nick or no oh that's weird

00:16:47.240 uh yeah well i said for the first 30 minutes i don't know why hold on guys i said for the first

00:16:57.220 30 minutes i'll re-trigger this sorry guys one sec um mason i know you have a question for the panel

00:17:04.080 go ahead wait what do it while i'm fixing this go ahead oh okay uh shoot well sorry guys i got

00:17:13.980 would you guys okay i guess we're just gonna get straight into it it's the only thing i can think

00:17:17.700 of right now would you guys classify yourself as a feminist no going around the table you're out

00:17:23.440 maybe like in the if it was feminism in the 80s or it's like first wave yeah but not anymore

00:17:31.160 okay no no no no no no no no no no i i always find this kind of interesting um have you guys at any

00:17:43.280 point like put on the the uh taken that movement on and say yes i'm a feminist like any point in

00:17:50.540 your life have that has that been like a big thing for you kind of yeah yeah i don't think so i guess

00:17:58.380 yeah so we got your answers no i think that no no no no no never you've never been like i'm a

00:18:05.120 feminist no definitely small dick energy donated 100 dollars first time donating i love the show

00:18:12.620 keep saving confused young ladies question currently working as a baker five feet seven inches

00:18:20.000 fit latino brown eyes good kisser you come first policy single any taker any takers at the table

00:18:28.920 too short too short too short too short yeah

00:18:35.560 well how is anybody else is he too short five seven too short for you guys for you for you for

00:18:42.420 no if you're single i know some of you guys are in relationships just if you're in assume you're

00:18:47.440 uh single if you were single how tall are you guys five seven i'm five three you're five three

00:18:54.220 five seven too short well i'd rather like not know the height unless you're tall what what does

00:19:01.640 that even mean i get what you mean i kind of get what you mean it's like if you're if you're shorter

00:19:06.400 like whatever but then once you like actually like put a number to it it's kind of like it makes it

00:19:10.560 real yeah i guess is that what you're trying to say or are you talking about your discord boyfriends

00:19:15.580 again lowkey my disco yeah i don't know what what height he is

00:19:19.000 kiko has a bigger thing brian donated one hundred dollars what my sprinkler goes like this

00:19:27.220 you have a bigger pp

00:19:29.920 comes back like this

00:19:37.220 he definitely changed his username okay uh yeah and then so the we'll do the hundred and up for the

00:19:44.560 first 30 minutes and then we'll switch guys so we have pierre luke doré i think for the canadian

00:19:50.280 hundred hundred merci beaucoup whoa that's a great start hello from quebec is that the french speaking

00:19:56.820 part bonjour i thought it was keeping it bonjour pierre luke that's of course that's a french guy

00:20:03.660 pierre luke yeah that's definitely thank you man appreciate it thank you dude uh wait so we're

00:20:10.760 going around everyone everyone said no to being a feminist yeah everyone said no to being a feminist

00:20:14.760 but i was asking have you always held that position i am not a feminist i don't associate with that

00:20:20.220 movement you were used to consider myself a feminist yeah exactly so we were here and i was grilling

00:20:26.220 you a little bit um no i'm not a feminist never have claimed i'm a feminist i'm not against

00:20:31.600 feminism either like i just don't really care okay you should be against it yes really yeah okay

00:20:36.920 indeed good good we have changed minds here today folks make progress that's not good if she could

00:20:43.240 change her mind that fast i don't really care like i feel like that's just an opinion all may be a

00:20:47.880 matter donated one hundred dollars brian you a weirdo for liking roast beef chat do you prefer

00:20:54.940 inusorardis strumpets of the panel do you have an inusorardis uh big labia matter yeah i'm a fan

00:21:06.900 what can i say why are you looking at me what the fuck we're taught to okay we're going around the

00:21:13.140 table yeah that's true that's true that's true that's true if you guys want to answer he's asking

00:21:18.600 if you guys have an inusorardis belly button nope

00:21:22.200 the the labia oh i'm not answering like your pastrami beefs on the outside hell no i'm an inusorardis

00:21:30.560 oh okay that's true no i'm i'm a i'm gonna keep my anatomy to me and my boyfriend yeah i'm gonna

00:21:37.240 keep mine you guys do of i mean subscribe to find out subscribe to find out i'm not answering that

00:21:45.900 question okay any oh there you go yeah i'm not gonna answer that question i plead the fifth

00:21:51.080 all right there you have it's mason

00:21:54.200 okay i think we're caught up on that so wait hold on we what how okay wait engaged relationship

00:22:04.700 single single i'll i'll know this discord boyfriend thing

00:22:08.420 so those of you who are single you said you're single there's no guys in the picture right now

00:22:17.020 in person no no dudes no you live in la right you're an attractive girl why is that um i feel

00:22:23.640 like i'm kind of anti-social like not really like but i don't i feel like i isolate myself a lot and i

00:22:29.760 kind of just like i feel like dating online and like playing video games and talking to like guys

00:22:35.120 online is way more thrilling than like going to a club and like finding a boyfriend or like chasing

00:22:39.420 a fucking boyfriend from the club you know well i agree with you that clubs are definitely good

00:22:43.960 environments but did you used to do that um well kind of i guess like partying yeah when did you start

00:22:51.880 your of my i'm just wondering half a year ago half a year ago yes i'm pretty new to it yeah

00:22:57.580 aren't you 18 right no she's 18 okay yeah i wouldn't yeah okay fair enough uh would you say

00:23:03.420 that you probably kind of adopt this policy like post starting an OF no no i've always been like

00:23:08.680 well not always i feel like after like my ex i feel like that's when it kind of started well like

00:23:13.020 i've always been like kind of like a weirdo like discord like gamer like i've always been like

00:23:18.240 into that kind of shit but like after like my ex i'm just like yeah i don't like i don't fuck

00:23:23.660 with guys like i just i'm over it don't play fortnite yeah when did you uh break up with your

00:23:28.220 ex like if you're not good at fortnite like i honestly don't like you like that's kind of

00:23:33.440 cringe is your ex like a twitch streamer no he's just a regular dude no yeah

00:23:38.500 but yeah if you're not good at fortnite like you're nerfed you're not on any dating apps

00:23:46.260 no do you go out you don't and you don't party at all well i party like sometimes like

00:23:53.440 how frequently i have to be like heavily like influenced to go with my friends out like i

00:23:58.440 have like a lot of friends that party but i just don't i don't really like are you a homebody

00:24:01.740 okay you don't like the first impression i don't that's not what i get but i know a lot of people say

00:24:09.500 that like i get like sorority girl innocent looking pure i don't know about that no nobody

00:24:15.620 expects me like i'm loki a fucking like weirdo like discord like mod type of girl okay nobody

00:24:20.660 would never expect that like nobody like even like she doesn't like she's like bro i would never expect

00:24:25.180 that from you and she's like my close friend okay do you tend to like go out party go to clubs

00:24:30.320 yeah absolutely yeah yes but you guys are friend like close friends yeah we're close so you try to

00:24:37.260 drag her out but she doesn't go i tried to drag her out last weekend and she she was gonna come

00:24:41.900 and then last second she was like you know what i'm gonna stay in i think that's pretty cool though

00:24:45.840 no i literally played fortnight the whole night like it's bad sorry kill of cereal i'm not why this

00:24:51.420 sure why this didn't trigger pick six one uh six foot tall six oh my god let me pull it back up sorry

00:24:56.960 guys it disappeared six foot one tall fit 180k a year eight inch peen but has a horrible world outlook

00:25:05.340 and negative attitude or five foot too tall chubby 30k year four inch peen and has positive world

00:25:12.860 outlook and uses confidence and swagger he really likes asking this question every show thank you

00:25:17.740 kill of cereal appreciate it starting with you if you had to pick between the two between uh what was it

00:25:23.980 again you mean the one i just read out and was on the screen okay basically like tall attractive rich guy

00:25:32.700 big peen but like bad attitude bad personality or five foot two chubby 30k year four inch peen

00:25:40.060 but positive world outlook and oozes confidence and swagger i'm not gonna answer that

00:25:44.860 it's a hypothetical so like if you were you know yeah i'm not single though so i'm not gonna answer it

00:25:52.060 but this is a this isn't even a real person yeah it's not yeah i know i just don't want to answer

00:25:58.140 it i feel like i mean i want to actually hold on let me open this up to the whole panel here does

00:26:05.100 engaging with a hypothetical mean you're like cheating on your boyfriend i don't know i think

00:26:12.540 it depends on the hypothetical but usually i feel like it's disrespectful to your boyfriend yeah i think

00:26:18.140 it is do you have guy friends that you talk to no no okay at least you're consistent i think i think

00:26:24.380 that i should only talk to him like he's allowed to talk to girls like i let him do that sometimes

00:26:29.660 but i don't think i should talk to guys that makes sense to me not really i mean in terms of answering

00:26:39.580 the hypothetical i don't understand that well i just think it's disrespectful to answer that to him

00:26:51.420 well okay i don't well okay that i don't why would you think it's disrespectful because

00:26:59.260 i don't really have an answer i just think well would you be able to engage with this hypothetical so

00:27:04.620 all right tell me what's the other one assuming you weren't in a you were not in a relationship

00:27:10.860 would you prefer dating a tall guy or a short guy a tall guy well how is that any different than the

00:27:16.300 question i've just posed you so if you had to pick between a guy who made 180 000 and 30 000 what would

00:27:22.060 you pick well any girl would say okay so if you had to pick between a guy who uh what were all the

00:27:28.700 other ones it was we can ask one by one and we'll make this easy well one's tall and fit and rich and

00:27:34.380 the other one yeah so between a fit guy or chubby guy which would you pick okay so we're almost there

00:27:41.020 we're almost there so good attitude or bad attitude good attitude okay so put those all together and pick

00:27:49.500 one it's an obvious answer though i feel like wait so just pick one we've already gone through this

00:27:55.180 exercise guy with okay with the bad i feel like everyone's gonna answer that there we go so i

00:28:00.060 figured i just we just wanted to nail down the pick i don't know it's not that easy to me no like if it

00:28:08.380 was for the short guy and it was everything but the like oozing confidence because it's like all right

00:28:14.620 man like i want my man with some confidence but yeah let's understand where you're lacking in some

00:28:18.860 situations i feel like that would be very annoying i guess like he's just like comfortable in his own

00:28:22.540 skin he's confident with that like he's got a healthy personality healthy outlook on life

00:28:27.660 yeah just give him the benefit of the doubt i guess yeah actually choose that one yeah yeah

00:28:32.940 i can't do the whole negative um i think i would rather be single for the rest of my life but um

00:28:38.860 i'd probably choose a douchebag like i mean it really depends on like how short and ugly he is because i

00:28:44.780 low-key like mid ugly guys so like it depends like how like fat short and ugly he is you know but i do

00:28:51.660 think like energy is like way more like it matters more than like the looks but you'll go with number

00:28:59.100 one yeah okay i'd also probably rather stay single but if the short dude's like a professional fighter

00:29:07.580 or something i'd go for him well he's not fit oh no yeah he's no not fit not fit chubby

00:29:17.660 he could still throw hands even if he's not fit

00:29:24.620 i'm fixing the five three chubby i almost said bodybuilder what are those what are they called

00:29:30.540 like olympian lifter olympic weightlifters yeah probably a power lifter yeah that's what i'm

00:29:37.260 that's what i'm gonna put in my mind okay yeah wait are you currently dating a guy who's a fighter no

00:29:43.500 but he's tall okay what about you i'm picking the tall guy um i actually kind of like assholes so

00:29:50.780 you like assholes okay i didn't say that they were an asshole though like that's it's had a terrible

00:29:58.380 outlook on life and lacks like bad attitude negative attitude i don't think necessarily

00:30:04.940 coincide yeah he could just be depressed like that's like you just didn't like his personality

00:30:10.940 at all like whether he was like an ass or not you just didn't fuck with his person he's just like

00:30:14.780 kind of drags you down like oh my gosh why are we doing this again he's a terrible outlook on life

00:30:19.180 that doesn't really mean a douchebag like if anything douchebags are like okay i feel like

00:30:25.260 i would pick neither but if i absolutely had like gun to my head had to choose one the short one with

00:30:30.060 the better attitude okay so i would pick the short one you know dad bod and uh as far as the income

00:30:36.940 goes you know that could possibly change i'd rather go with a positive person you could build something

00:30:42.060 together agreed yeah yeah i'm going with the second all right thank you kill of cereal

00:30:49.020 much appreciated i where were we before that chat came in no clue discord boyfriends and feminism

00:31:01.900 there's something else well you said that you like assholes what so can you explain that a little

00:31:06.060 further what does that mean it's like attractive like when guys are like douchebags and like i don't

00:31:11.100 know it kind of like makes me like want them more well biologically girls are supposed to like assholes

00:31:16.140 that's like our biological makeup wait why that's because it's like like like assholes or like

00:31:22.860 assholes no well they actually like need an asshole that's like what do you mean like like

00:31:29.020 i think it comes from having an immature like an immature female will have that outlook no i don't think so

00:31:40.140 because i had i had a good because a mature mature female will be able to tell the difference between

00:31:44.860 a guy who's just a jerk and someone who's actually confident actually carries himself like a man

00:31:50.380 like immature women will see the guy who's a jerk treats people terribly but is strong and like has

00:31:57.020 that false confidence and they'll be like that's what i'm looking for because like i want strong

00:32:00.860 male but a real female a strong female who's mature will understand the difference between the two

00:32:07.500 so are you saying what are you saying about her then mason

00:32:13.740 i mean yeah i would say you're probably an immature female she's 18 exactly so i mean i i

00:32:19.180 exactly that makes sense 19 yeah do you want to respond to his accusations that you're immature i mean

00:32:27.100 yeah i disagree like i think everyone likes what they like and if i like someone that's like that

00:32:31.100 and like that turns me on then that might just be my preference like you know i'm not getting on you

00:32:35.740 for like your it turns you on so what would be like let's actually let's try to um articulate kind

00:32:43.180 of what this actually looks like so you say certain behaviors turn you on what specifically i don't like

00:32:49.980 if i have a nice guy right in front of me that wants like oh my god like i kind of like like chasing

00:32:54.940 someone and when someone acts like they don't want me and they're kind of like like they give off that

00:33:00.060 energy it kind of like oh like bad boy like a chase yeah like i like that though that's like

00:33:05.580 i don't want them to be like assholes though they don't have to be an asshole to make you go on

00:33:09.020 a chase that's why i think maybe we're getting confused of what you describe an asshole to be

00:33:12.860 isn't what we're envisioning an asshole to be because you can like someone who like yeah like

00:33:17.180 puts in you have to put effort towards i also i take the position that i don't chase after women

00:33:22.700 like i i i let them chase after me i feel like i like the thought of like changing guys like if

00:33:28.460 you're like a like a player like an asshole like i feel like i'm obsessed with the fact that like

00:33:33.020 you will change for me and like i will make you that's immature immature yeah

00:33:38.700 no the thing is like i have changed guys for me and on discord and then i end up like not even

00:33:43.340 really liking them after they change for me i don't think wait wait hold on hold on stop stop stop

00:33:48.140 stop repeat that one more time i said i end up not even liking them after they change you go there it

00:33:53.660 is that's the reason why that's bad yeah well no i i understand that it's bad you need someone who's

00:33:58.220 already there well do you know why you were turned off after you i think that might be my phone i'm

00:34:04.140 sorry what like you should just let us keep going we gotta hold on super chat or not super chat i don't

00:34:13.820 know yeah yeah we were oh that okay we're past the 30 guys we're we're we already passed the 30

00:34:23.340 minutes so we're 200 and up for tts 100 and up to read we'll get to it later do you understand like

00:34:28.540 why you lost attraction for them yes i do yeah it's because you don't want a man who will bow to the

00:34:35.580 pressures of the world no so if if you you lost attraction for him like i know what i'm doing when

00:34:41.900 a man puts up boundaries in the beginning that i don't know so what makes a strong man is he has

00:34:47.340 boundaries he has conviction he is strong he will not bend to the pressures of the world that makes a

00:34:52.460 man attractive so if you you're if yourself can break those boundaries if you can push that man

00:34:59.020 to compromise that is extremely unattractive and that's why that's why immature women will find

00:35:04.780 themselves in this scenario where they're like i i want to change a man i can change him like all

00:35:10.380 that's good and then when he does when he breaks his own boundaries when he compromises when he proves

00:35:15.340 to you that he's not a strong man you lose attraction it makes sense well like i said sometimes though

00:35:21.020 because are you single like no the guy i'm talking to right now he was like a little

00:35:26.700 fucking treesh online and i changed him he was like a treesh and now he's like what is a treesh

00:35:34.700 like a like a like a like a man like a man like a man whore yeah never heard this well i mean it's not

00:35:39.740 a man whore like it can be like just a whore in general yes but usually describe for women i just call

00:35:43.900 it that like i don't know why i guess i just call him do you have any intention to actually meet this guy in

00:35:48.380 real life and date him yes i actually really like him and like i feel like he used to talk to like

00:35:53.180 hella girls online too and like i was like no like like let me change him because like i feel like i

00:35:58.860 can't like as a game at first and like now that he actually changed like i'm like we actually like him

00:36:03.820 like but i'm saying a lot of the because it's like a drug like all of a sudden you think okay this guy

00:36:08.940 is going to put up with my feelings like he cares about me he's listening to me he's changing for me but

00:36:13.820 eventually you're going to get to that point where the drug no longer has any effect and then

00:36:18.700 you're going to be like i don't want you in my life anymore we're done wait why because the same

00:36:23.820 thing is going to happen like why do you think that because that's what's happened in your life

00:36:27.500 from your own account like you lose interest because like well you just told us you like him

00:36:32.940 you've told us eventually sometimes girls don't like end up actually liking them after they've played

00:36:38.700 that game with them you know i'm just telling you this is how women will interact but it's also

00:36:43.660 times where like i actually do like them after i've changed them you know how long have you been

00:36:48.460 talking to this guy like three months there you go i have a counter argument to that and i i do agree

00:36:55.500 but i would like your perspective on so what about a woman that is with her man from the bottom

00:37:02.300 up and watches him change into a better man financially x y and z and maybe she has some

00:37:09.340 sort of influence on that yeah oh i'm not saying like a woman can't help a man become a better man

00:37:14.860 i'm not saying that i'm saying she's probably attracted to him because he has those qualities

00:37:20.380 being strong having boundaries having aspirations that's probably what attracted to her to him at the

00:37:26.780 beginning so she's not trying to change those things like she's not pushing boundaries she's not

00:37:32.060 like crushing his aspirations making him change in those ways it's usually like hey how can i best

00:37:38.300 support you in your mission how can i help push you to be a better man and like as a man that is

00:37:44.060 the most attractive thing in the world so you would say maybe their perspective is like you were saying

00:37:52.380 maybe just a little bit immature so maybe maybe i guess i'm thinking about this now so maybe they see

00:37:58.620 an immature woman will see if i can push his boundaries and make him change and like adopt

00:38:03.740 these certain things like that maybe i can push him to be a better man but that's just an immature

00:38:10.780 like view on the subject maybe i could see it that way maybe right idea but wrong attributes

00:38:17.340 exactly yeah because the difference between like changing someone and coming to a compromise so like

00:38:22.860 say in the beginning you start dating he's the type to like never text you and you hate when he

00:38:26.460 he doesn't text you when he's out with his friends so he starts you know updating you you're out that's

00:38:30.860 not changing him you guys are coming to a compromise he's so it's like it's you're actively getting

00:38:34.780 with someone because you're like i know i can morph them into the human being i want to morph them into

00:38:39.180 instead of them already being that human being then i actually have two quotes related to this

00:38:43.580 whole changing thing yeah go for it so men marry women with the hope they will never change

00:38:48.060 women marry men with the hope they will change invariably they are both disappointed

00:38:56.540 i believe that that's sad though there's a little truth behind that one we're not everyone obviously

00:39:01.100 but also another one when a woman leaves her husband it's because he refuses to change

00:39:06.220 who he is when a man leaves his wife it's because she's not the woman that he married

00:39:10.860 that's the sad truth some thoughts there for the conversation also i 100 agree with you mason when

00:39:20.140 it comes to not wanting a woman who's a challenge i know you mentioned that because uh if you play

00:39:26.620 hard to get you quickly become hard to want what looking at you kika what wait it was what's confusing

00:39:34.460 about that if you become hard to get no if you play if you play hard to get you quickly become

00:39:41.100 hard to want i mean so i guess no from from the guy's perspective maybe y'all like the chase and

00:39:46.780 shit but from my perspective i don't want a challenge i don't want i don't want that from

00:39:51.260 your perspective so what's what's the challenge to you are you saying because she waits to sleep

00:39:55.500 with you are you saying she waits to like be in a relationship with you no not necessarily right

00:39:58.940 away then that would be like a relationship with her it's hard to her like what do you mean like

00:40:05.100 i don't get the with women you guys are not familiar with the term playing hard to get i know

00:40:10.860 like not being super responsive with like i have to i have to put out so much effort to get your

00:40:17.100 attention i don't want to hang out you see his message but you're laughing you see he wants you but

00:40:21.180 you're playing around i feel like maybe i'm thinking it's hard for us to grasp because i don't think

00:40:24.860 women typically do that it's like if they're interested or they're not yeah so i know but

00:40:31.420 i'm saying like if she's playing hard to get she's probably not playing hard to get she probably just

00:40:34.780 doesn't want you well so well i don't know i i just i gave you a succinct like summary of what i was

00:40:41.420 trying to explain and you two agreed with me like i've done that and it works then so so like playing

00:40:48.540 hard to get so like not giving them attention um like making them fight for your attention extremely

00:40:56.220 hard and you were like yeah i do that all the time and it works for me it does for women but i feel

00:41:01.740 like well it gets you a certain caliber of guy i feel like it's i don't know why but like it's like

00:41:08.060 there's a big difference for like guys and girls that do that like so i feel like guys are really

00:41:12.460 delusional sometimes and i'm like wait how are guys yeah because as a woman i would never like

00:41:17.580 dm a guy like like begging to like get my attention and i have so many guys in my dms and like i bet

00:41:24.540 all of your guys dms too wait so just by virtue of sending a girl a dm that's begging i think it's

00:41:29.580 the no no no i have guys like like for months on end like every single day like damming me asking

00:41:34.780 like trying to get my attention and i'm like okay that's weird are you okay like and there's like it's

00:41:38.540 not just one guy it's like multiple guys and it's like i would never do that would you would you

00:41:42.300 would you guys you don't have well one you don't have to but i would certainly agree that men

00:41:46.540 you can send one dm no yeah i mean that no that's fine like maybe i'll dm like my celebrity crush like

00:41:53.900 trying to get his attention but like there's guys that are like constantly like every day yeah

00:41:58.060 that's weird they shouldn't do that those guys are called simps but i feel like guys have like

00:42:02.940 it's worse than that i think it's even there's even sometimes like attractive guys who are like

00:42:07.340 aren't what you would think is simps or whatever and it's like maybe you like hang out with them once but

00:42:11.500 then they'll like keep texting you keep texting it's like it's not just the weirdos who no yeah

00:42:15.420 but it's a mentality yeah this that's actually a really great point because you asked all the

00:42:19.820 girls like you turned you you asked the girls at your side you're saying well we would never even

00:42:25.260 think of dming double dming a guy you might even think just sending one dm to a guy is too much

00:42:33.340 as a woman and that actually speaks to the fact that quite frankly you guys have dating on easy

00:42:38.380 mode compared to men it doesn't it doesn't even occur to you to have to take like a bare minimum

00:42:44.220 level of initiative you just you just get handed a bunch of resumes so to speak on the silver platter

00:42:49.980 i initiated my relationship that i'm in i did too yeah is he a strong man definitely i will say

00:42:56.940 when women do initiate they like but they're snipering in on like one guy that they really they really

00:43:02.860 like yeah whereas like dudes it's like a shotgun approach where they're just some guys yeah it's

00:43:07.900 like every chick i played the law game yeah every scenery out yeah yeah women are snipers and dudes

00:43:13.980 just mowing he put the first move by asking for my number first and then we didn't have any contact

00:43:19.820 for months and then i initiated after that that's extremely smart yeah as a guy like maybe i'll ask for

00:43:24.860 the number maybe i'll give them the number but i'm not like hounding on them like hey can you please

00:43:30.860 give me some attention please i beg of you sir that's exactly how he yeah he's like i'm not

00:43:35.580 going to do that because he's probably a strong man who knows what he wants and he knows what he

00:43:39.580 deserves yeah makes sense good shit good shit so you like assholes anybody who else here likes ass i

00:43:46.540 do you do is your fiancee i like the thought i would say he's an asshole yeah you would say he's an

00:43:51.900 asshole okay kiara i don't know i'm saying that's i'm just i don't like kiko anymore i'm calling you

00:43:58.380 kiara deal with it i like making assholes not assholes and then you break up with them because

00:44:04.380 then she breaks up with them like but i'm saying like you you lose attraction for them no no no no

00:44:10.060 my e-boyfriend used to be an asshole yeah grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars men that

00:44:17.180 change for a woman will resent it and will leave them a man must be true to himself discard all women

00:44:23.580 not willing to accept him as he is as a true man is always going to better himself well put

00:44:29.580 well put grid one motorsports the legend grid one motorsports coming in with some facts thank you man

00:44:37.100 appreciate it um well i i'm kind of going back to you my one of my initial questions was what are some

00:44:44.460 of the ways that like actually if you can articulate it like that a guy can act in that way that makes you

00:44:49.900 really attracted to him what are some assholish behaviors i don't really know just like not

00:44:56.780 i don't know like just not wanting me like not being rude to other people but kind of like just

00:45:02.540 i don't know having like a big ego and like big ego okay so you don't like assholes you like men with

00:45:07.820 confidence yeah yeah that's what it is that's what it sounds like a little cocky about it though i like

00:45:12.940 the aspect that um aurora was talking about too like changing them like okay so you like conceded like the

00:45:17.420 chase conceded men yeah you want to chase them like because i think of an asshole i think of

00:45:21.420 someone who's an asshole to like people that's not that they don't want you it's like why do you

00:45:25.580 not want me like i want to make you want me mm-hmm yeah that's dysfunctional yeah yeah that's

00:45:32.620 terribly i think what part of that is too it's kind of like well have you guys ever succeeded yeah yeah

00:45:41.020 but so i i almost wonder what so you're saying they had no physical attraction to you

00:45:46.380 no and then you but they were like i feel like they were like as a man like it's kind of weird

00:45:51.980 for a man to be playing hard to get so it's kind of like damn like why is he playing hard to get for

00:45:56.620 me so i kind of want to make like i want to change him what does it look like when a man's played hard

00:46:01.820 to get um like they're not in my dms like constantly dming me every single day like that's how it like

00:46:07.420 most men are for me so hard to get that's normal yeah that's just a normal normal like we have a

00:46:13.980 lot of i think really miscommunicating i think part of it kiara makes a very good point no she does

00:46:20.700 because if a guy like really acted like he didn't want me like well no that's not that's not even

00:46:25.100 what i'm getting to i think what she's saying is that there's this sort of like comparative uh

00:46:30.380 there's this comparison going on here because you're on social media you have a following on social

00:46:35.020 media you have only fans so the attention that you are getting from a decent subset of men is like

00:46:41.100 this exaggerated like simpish thing and then like by comparison the actual normal treatment as kiara

00:46:47.820 is saying from normal men of like not engaging you on that you're like why aren't you simping for me

00:46:53.900 yeah is that kind of what you're saying it would be like if they're not responding to you if you're

00:46:58.940 like trying to set up something and they're not like going through like that's hard to get but yeah

00:47:02.060 you're just describing like men with any self-confidence how they go about dating i feel

00:47:07.820 like no i think that like that's what i'm going for is like your opinion just a normal guy not

00:47:11.900 a maybe maybe not a discord so even before i had only fans though like guys were in my dms like that

00:47:16.060 too yeah it's not just the only fans yeah for sure no yeah oh yeah there's i mean no yeah i think what

00:47:20.540 i'm like like social media is like the people who reach out on social media are overwhelmingly simpy

00:47:26.380 so like the people you're getting are like the lowest echelon of men hey and i love those guys

00:47:31.580 like i love those guys in my dms i mean you gotta say that because like that's how you make your

00:47:35.420 money well no i don't i do okay like i love reading them like i love like the attention but yeah i know

00:47:41.340 you love the attention you just don't love those type of guys yeah you might be right guys are

00:47:47.260 supposed to do the initiating anyway yeah i agree it's better if the woman initiates to be honest

00:47:53.340 well it's better but it's like that's not then you know she really likes you yeah no that's

00:47:57.580 i feel like that's not it i mean it is it guys but it's like it's better at the same time if i

00:48:02.940 really want a guy i'm sometimes i still it's better if the girl's like yeah i'm a woman like i'm not

00:48:07.580 gonna do that i'm a man i'm not gonna do that i'm like no i can use the same argument yeah like yeah

00:48:15.100 sometimes i will initiate but like if a woman initiates with me that's a pretty big turn on

00:48:21.500 yeah as a good man that's like yeah yeah you'll still initiate yeah exactly if she's coming at

00:48:29.580 you it's like a much better dynamic 100 yeah i agree why are you picking on me that's like

00:48:39.020 it's kind of what masculine girl is initiating with the guy for her to well you can i think you can do

00:48:45.180 so in a in a feminine way it's not like you walk up to the dude yo you want some pussy that's what i

00:48:51.340 did that's what you did i'm really happy how we we met we met organically how did you guys meet we

00:48:59.260 met um when i was working at my bar romantic oh yeah we exchanged numbers but we didn't talk like

00:49:04.220 that was tanked what was he tanked was he drunk oh no no it was like early in the night um he was

00:49:09.340 perfectly fine yeah and then we didn't talk for like months like that was september of 2022 and i would

00:49:14.460 just see him out with his friends while i was working stuff like that kind of saw how he acted

00:49:19.260 while he was out at the club and how he portrayed himself um and then we would talk every once in

00:49:23.900 a while like you know just a little bit and then on um new year's day um i was working and i saw him

00:49:32.300 there and um i went up to him and kissed him on uh midnight and then we didn't talk for like a week

00:49:38.940 and then we started dating after that oh my god who the hell you asked me i know you literally asked

00:49:47.820 okay wait really quick let's do a quick check in here tay chiara what's going on you guys i'm chilling

00:49:55.980 i'm giddy i'm with glee to be here i haven't said anything oh okay no i'm cool now oh yeah yeah

00:50:04.860 yeah i got what i had to say out it's is it yeah as long as she didn't keep running her mouth i feel

00:50:10.940 like there's this underlying tension just say it taylor i think you got it you got this i already said

00:50:16.300 what i have to say i feel like she doesn't she talks all that shit online and when i see her she

00:50:20.140 acts fake there's nothing else to say you're scared so that to me is enough i actually fight

00:50:24.940 i do muay thai i don't want to fight a bitch i want to fight somebody who's down with it yeah that's

00:50:29.180 why i told her stop running your mouth or what you're gonna hit me duh that's the whole point if

00:50:33.580 you keep threatening somebody online talking about dude look at the videos you made you talk so much

00:50:38.780 i've never made a video i've never you came on this podcast four times i'm playing video games my

00:50:45.340 followers say hey have you seen the video kiko made of you that's why i'm saying this whole podcast

00:50:50.060 why are you acting shocked i didn't what did you say i want to fight taylor i want to fight taylor

00:50:54.220 i said for 10k i would get in the boxing ring you said he asked me how much it would cost for me he

00:50:57.740 texted me one day and said would you ever box taylor i said for 10k that's literally how it

00:51:01.820 happened it was never my idea i'm not a fighter but why do you even do it then why do you even put

00:51:06.220 yourself in those situations if you know you're not a fighter that doesn't make any you can i would

00:51:10.060 literally just say hey stop me out for ten thousand dollars what are we talking about here if i could

00:51:15.260 hold on hold on what is like you're mad because we said you were masculine

00:51:19.980 but then this is how you're who's we it's only you brian's the one who actually said it first

00:51:24.460 that you were a masculine woman i did not say yes you did brian i did not say that i don't think i'm

00:51:29.500 not trying to catch hands but we did it all quit yes you did wait i don't think i hold on yes you

00:51:34.940 did i don't care whether i'm perceived as masculine i don't think i don't think i said that i don't care

00:51:38.700 whether i look don't think i said that i i don't think maybe i could be wrong i don't i swear to god

00:51:45.500 i don't think i said that you did you did yeah i watched it you did brian i'm not mad at you but

00:51:51.340 you did thank you thank you for at least you know i'm not lying that's not the issue though it's the

00:51:58.620 issue that you keep running your mouth i don't care whether somebody calls me names this and that

00:52:01.900 but once you start going to a place where you want to fight somebody why you that's what what i don't

00:52:06.540 understand the only reason why i've responded on the podcast is because people send me your videos

00:52:11.020 that you've made yeah after i watch the podcast youtube videos about me 20 minutes

00:52:15.820 that's right and i'll say it again to your face that's fine but no titties glenn looking ass whoa

00:52:21.900 you look like the men in black little skinny things yes okay okay let's not we shouldn't we

00:52:25.980 shouldn't insult each other like that's fine that's totally fine for tit stop you look like a dude relax

00:52:31.020 what yeah but i'm the one talking all this we shouldn't body shame i don't understand

00:52:37.020 i i want you to say the same thing you did online i'm a fan of small boobs no no no no

00:52:45.020 small boobs are good too like you thought i got mad i would have jumped up and got at you if i'm

00:52:49.020 you can see when i'm mad i will get out of my chair and put hands on you i'm sorry i forgot if

00:52:52.860 this is just a debate relax so i don't act that way so i forget that's how people respond because i can

00:52:56.860 use my words so maybe you should stop maybe you should leave people alone i told you four or five times

00:53:01.260 stop her you can go you can go back on all the podcasts and she never stopped running her mouth

00:53:07.260 and when you tell somebody you want to fight them what for and i didn't you see them when you see

00:53:11.180 them this is you all right so acting like it was non-existent i just want the same energy you gave

00:53:16.060 online that's the only thing i'm saying you're not like what's up you didn't you didn't walk out

00:53:21.820 that's not how i act up you didn't welcome me and you swear to god you came and shook my hand learn

00:53:26.460 welcoming you were late you're an hour and a half late i wasn't gonna come here i wasn't gonna come here

00:53:30.460 oh yeah because you're just waiting to make sure i was here yeah that's the whole point of me coming

00:53:33.740 here yeah that's because i wanted to tell you your face to stop talking about me let it go

00:53:37.100 after this podcast is done please let it go i seriously girl i haven't spoken about you in

00:53:41.180 forever i'm telling you i don't i just say tell you the last time i thought about you exactly you're not

00:53:46.460 listening you never listen i don't listen after this guy at that please no i won't thank you no

00:53:52.060 guy at that no you see exactly and this is why women let's go get tossed up every

00:53:56.860 fucking time because you guys tossed i've never been touched you guys will continue and continue

00:54:00.940 when somebody tells you to stop let it go i would just press charges if you touch go do it like that's

00:54:05.260 like i don't care like what are we doing here it's a podcast you're this mad over that and then

00:54:11.580 seriously like that's like let's learn to regulate our emotions a little bit relax like i know some

00:54:15.980 messes our eyes like relax let's relax say it right if you're gonna say it i don't speak spanish

00:54:22.940 obviously yeah i could see it i'm not spanish latina any of the sorts so latina shut up why are you

00:54:29.820 so where'd you get that popular from like holy crap man yeah you want some give me the whole thing

00:54:37.100 like can i get a xanax or something now like yeah give her some give her a drink another one she might

00:54:42.700 need it oh damn you okay now no you're scared are you are you okay now i'm fine i just i don't like

00:54:54.460 people who don't match energy like if i talk about somebody i'm not going to come and act like nothing

00:54:57.820 happened that's my biggest sorry i was waiting to get past the introduction straight up we could like

00:55:02.940 get past the introductions like oh my god sorry i'm about what i say i'm not one of those people who

00:55:08.860 fake and rumble over a dating podcast you're wishy-washy dude you like wishy-washy i've never

00:55:13.740 liked you since day one how's that wishy-washy run your mouth and then when i come here you don't

00:55:17.100 say half the stuff you say what are we talking about here you're the one who's made numerous

00:55:21.660 videos this is so hard to talk to you because it's like i'm talking to somebody with two brain cells

00:55:25.900 fighting each other just be quiet let it go it's done you're the only one who you're not

00:55:29.500 you're not gonna fight you're not gonna do anything so you're gonna repeat the same things i

00:55:33.820 say because you haven't heard no comebacks exactly oh lord i will say this if i can just

00:55:39.900 perhaps a point of clarification i'll press charges oh i will press charges if you touch me on a dating

00:55:45.020 podcast i will 100 percent be pressing why did you talk about fighting last time for 10 000 dollars in

00:55:50.060 the boxing ring is very different put your swords away for just a second those are two very

00:55:55.340 different learn what jumping across the table is mamacita relax yo wait kiko

00:55:59.740 hold on hold on kiko shut the fuck up i'm about to defend you okay so if i can provide a bit of

00:56:07.580 clarification so i think kiko i you guys had some beef i don't know the full details of it i proposed

00:56:16.060 hey let's do like we'll host an actual boxing event and i think that's the context in which kiko

00:56:22.220 wanted to fight you she didn't want to scrap with you in the street like i've never said that no i

00:56:26.220 never said i know it's a boxing match but i want you to do it now i don't want you to sit here and

00:56:30.060 say you're going to do something you have the ten thousand dollars they're the ones you're putting

00:56:32.860 i'm not putting up nothing okay so i'm not i can get your ass for free we're not gonna do the the

00:56:37.340 boxing match on the dating podcast we're gonna do the boxing it's gonna be like there's a boxing ring it's

00:56:43.980 gonna be an actual event that's what i'm saying yes i will be there ten thousand dollars week she

00:56:48.460 can beat my ass i will run around the rink while she chases me for ten thousand dollars i do not

00:56:52.300 care pay some audience members um outside or in this studio no we're not fighting like i what is

00:56:57.740 like who even said i was fighting you here i'm not it's his podcast i'm not gonna go and beat your

00:57:01.580 ass on this podcast come on dude fighting in my wall i'm saying in general bro you're not listening

00:57:07.180 you said we could do it right now you literally said let's do it right now then that's right here in

00:57:10.460 this podcast if we can leave after this dude in the streets yeah i'm not fighting you exactly

00:57:14.140 because you won't you're scared i'm not scared i'm not i don't fight i don't need to then stop

00:57:18.460 running with my words that's not woman don't run your mouth okay okay stop running your mouth

00:57:22.460 i never ran that's masculine the fight yeah i'm not a fighter and i'm sure the only physical

00:57:27.420 altercation i've ever been in is because my best friend was getting jumped by six girls so i tried

00:57:30.780 to help her do that i am not a fighter i don't give a fuck next there's all that for

00:57:35.420 nothing bro like that's what happens when you disrespect somebody like me i'm very respectful

00:57:40.220 that people are nice to me you're not respectful you never have been if you're nice to me and you

00:57:44.700 drop it i'll let it go but i did drop it i didn't say so why don't you apologize for all the stuff you

00:57:48.780 said yeah exactly so you apologize for what i do that you didn't do i'm not running my mouth on

00:57:54.060 these fucking podcasts like you know but you make 20 minute videos about it yeah after i watch this

00:57:58.140 come on no it was everything i said was in a response gaslighting bro you gotta grow up dude

00:58:02.700 you know what i think you owe me some apologies yeah for what you owe me apologies what do i owe

00:58:08.460 you an apology i owe many apologies for what you've said very mean things like what i actually hype you

00:58:14.620 up a lot of the times remember remember the last time you were on the last time you were on kiko

00:58:21.340 we you know there's the whole thing with the dhs and you're like good i want to see the whatever

00:58:26.140 burn out i did not say that i said i didn't want to see i wanted to see them i wanted to see the

00:58:31.260 manosphere be investigated for the things that it can be you want me to be investigated by the feds

00:58:36.060 i want there to be what are you a snitch regulation you snitch oh she is she's a

00:58:39.820 fucking snitch she already said it yes i'm criminology major i can't wait to maybe put on a patrol

00:58:44.300 suit fucking one day i am a snitch i'm an op that is me all the way through and through opera

00:58:49.340 prostigate like what do we want to say about it are you a psyop you you're aspiring aspiring

00:58:55.180 science saboteur are you a saboteur brian you know how many people have reached out to me trying

00:58:59.740 to get me to sabotage you it would have been done wait really all the time wait really yes damn that's

00:59:04.780 sketch i don't care enough okay i don't do the whole thing you're welcome not really for your

00:59:10.140 benefits because i'm lazy i'm just kidding wow

00:59:19.980 you're not yourself when you're hungry it is uh yeah snickers all right guys get yourself a

00:59:25.340 snickers um i'm allergic to nuts nice to know i just want to say

00:59:35.660 much as i am enjoying the cat fight and watching the girls run thea money

00:59:39.740 makers can the girls rank themselves as wife material one to ten wait

00:59:48.780 on a scale of one ten how wifey are we hmm wifey oh there's like two two that another one that's

00:59:55.740 about to kind of grid we're gonna rate that we're gonna do that but we have another one that's coming

01:00:00.700 in and then and then we'll do it loose energy donated two hundred dollars brian bust out the gloves and

01:00:07.500 move out everything the way everybody wants the smoke and catch a fade let's go don't start

01:00:14.860 nothing won't be none guy at day putos hashtag get the rocks number eight at 18. don't start nothing

01:00:23.420 won't be none kiko i'm so sorry for starting this all right sorry good job it wasn't to you it was to

01:00:31.900 brian good job what a bitch good job what is like crawled up your asshole like relax wait we're gonna

01:00:38.860 move on we're gonna move on put your swords away we're gonna do the wife rating okay you're gonna rank

01:00:45.180 yourself on a scale of one to ten for wife are you wife material well i must be a 10 because i'm

01:00:52.140 getting married next month okay couldn't it be the case though i'm not not directed at you but couldn't

01:00:58.140 somebody be getting married and but not be wife material okay uh not saying it's the case for you

01:01:04.540 realistically probably an eight right now i would say a seven i lose three points for for what i'm a

01:01:15.100 bartender okay that yep i um smoke cannabis and vape i don't think that's very wifey like not wifey and

01:01:23.660 then third i wake up late a lot once i take those things away i think okay so take away the vaping

01:01:31.180 bartending and waking up late yeah then you're a 10 out of 10 on the wife's because really wifey

01:01:35.980 material is like mother like um motherhood material so i think that's like those three all right what

01:01:41.660 what about you um i think i would give it an eight like the only like two points off would be like from

01:01:47.660 like because i do only fans probably that'd be like the only reason okay because like i know how to cook

01:01:53.100 clean like i'm funny like that's all you need right as a wife do you think that's

01:02:01.100 something men prioritize is yes they always do like they talk about it so she's wife material

01:02:06.700 honey cook and clean like that's all they talk about right is it that's like the main points like

01:02:12.460 that's like the the main thing guys care about is if she's funny oh and virginity i'm a virgin i

01:02:18.780 only have e-sex that's i'll hold up i don't buy it you're a virgin yeah actually you do only fans

01:02:27.260 yeah and you're a virgin well yeah i only have e-sex that's on the internet and i like

01:02:32.220 you're friends with her is it true she's a legit not a born again virgin she's never had sex

01:02:37.180 she hasn't born again what is that real that's cheese it's like

01:02:43.580 cybering if like to use a super boomer term don't you get i like cyber sex

01:02:48.940 she's also only 18 so but she does oh i have i know i mean yeah that does take away from the

01:02:56.700 virginity a lot for you i won't lie that does definitely okay i get that but like i'm not

01:03:01.100 like i'm different i guess because i'm a virgin that's cool though yeah that's like what you should

01:03:05.420 make like some merch with that unless you consider like e-sex like virginity taking like

01:03:11.340 like you're a fucking liar you're a fucking liar wait are you saying that i believe her she only

01:03:19.580 dates dudes on discord she doesn't leave her house bro like believe it or not bro like i'm literally a

01:03:24.220 fucking weird nerd like i only have e-sex deplorable dude donated 200 i don't buy it i don't buy it

01:03:31.100 but my head hurts when she speaks stop saying like high value men want a woman that can hold an

01:03:38.060 intelligent conversation also before it persists the plural of woman is women does anybody know

01:03:44.860 that i think it's just the way we talk no yeah i know woman and woman wait they always comment on

01:03:50.460 that okay i know the difference i have noticed i'm saying two different words here woman woman woman

01:03:55.660 woman it sounds the same i don't know if it's california accent or what but i always talk about that

01:03:59.980 wait is anybody else here a virgin oh yeah oh my god how do you so so you wait so would you date

01:04:09.500 since you're like christian or whatever like i'm christian too but like not like strict like how you

01:04:14.060 are yeah i can tell you're not strict but like what like is your type like a virgin like that's what

01:04:18.380 your wife like that's what you're looking for uh oh my god i keep saying like i'm so sorry whoever

01:04:22.460 said that apology acceptance uh brian actually will not uh accept any uh girlfriend applications

01:04:29.580 on my behalf for those who are not virgins oops well i am but sorry i missed that but uh personally i i

01:04:36.300 don't care um now i do have to give a caveat um i know the statistics for those who have had sex before

01:04:44.060 marriage if you have more than five sexual partners before marriage you're only 20 likely to have a

01:04:49.340 successful relationship so i'm not even any of that but like i'm just i don't find it doesn't

01:04:55.100 matter what you believe in it's more like it's a it's a statistical fact so if you have five or

01:05:01.180 more sexual partners before marriage your marriage is only 20 likely to succeed wait really yeah it's

01:05:07.900 like an actual fact that's an actual fact that's crazy it is crazy but for men too uh i don't know

01:05:13.340 about men is it okay that's which is fine i'm thinking it is yeah yeah i mean it's fine but a lot of

01:05:18.460 men like to use it in for women exactly it's i say the same thing for men yeah like you will number

01:05:23.900 might be different but it's it's probably a little bit like maybe it's a little like a couple more

01:05:28.060 yeah like seven or something exactly it's the same idea but a lot of people like to like ignore that

01:05:31.820 part so yeah you're you're seriously claiming virgin but you have an only fans do you post nude content

01:05:40.300 on there um like what do you consider like nude like your clothes do you have clothes on yeah wait

01:05:47.500 no no clothes yeah that's that that's nude yeah yeah so nude content yeah okay see see you're you're

01:05:55.020 uh you're um confusion between the difference of nude and not nude also calls into questioning

01:06:01.420 your definition of virgin versus not virgin well i know because that's what i'm asking does

01:06:05.740 e-sex consider as like having real sex no right so how how so as a christian i just

01:06:12.460 fuck myself like on the like on a discord so as a christian what don't claim god with yeah

01:06:20.700 i'm saying that yeah okay well what oh take dick okay so as a christian jesus himself said

01:06:28.540 if you lust after a woman you have already committed adultery in your heart with that woman

01:06:32.940 so in your position jesus sees sin as not just sin of the flesh so what you do what your actions

01:06:39.340 are he looks at the heart he sees what is in the heart heart of the person that causes them to sin

01:06:45.180 my family is so i know i know so your family's christian men also christian my dad i don't really

01:06:52.380 know what my dad is i don't i think he's not really religious but like my mom's side like they're

01:06:56.140 all christian okay so go ahead mason the point i'm trying to make is men also desire loyalty from

01:07:03.660 a woman loyalty in mind and body and soul so when and god commands this of women as well for uh women

01:07:13.580 who are christians you are to be loyal you are to be loyal to god you're supposed to obey his commands

01:07:18.460 all of these things but as a man i want my woman to be loyal and if she's putting pictures of

01:07:23.420 herself out there naked giving herself to every tom dick and harry out there i don't want that no no

01:07:30.380 christian man will want that no christian man who takes the bible serious and takes the lord seriously

01:07:35.820 is going to want that i take the lord seriously and no you don't i do no you don't i do maybe not as

01:07:43.500 serious as no so god himself says that if you love me you will keep my commandments but it's like

01:07:49.260 being against only fans in the bible being against sexual immorality is in your body everywhere yeah

01:07:56.060 yeah god himself talks about the whore of babylon like giving themselves out to every

01:08:03.100 every man who comes across them like the bible speaks upon this extensively you don't even care

01:08:09.500 she's just laughing well what's that thing don't cast yeah don't cast pearls before swine

01:08:14.540 well we all have our different perspectives on god so no i mean there's no okay actually

01:08:21.500 yeah the bible actually hits on this as well but you just okay christian you didn't say you're a

01:08:25.020 multiple religion no and then you're laughing i'm not no i think it's first peter 20 or first peter

01:08:31.020 so first peter there is second peter one verse 20 change actually says that there's only one

01:08:36.780 interpretation of god's word and it's from the spirit and there's only one way to interpret the bible

01:08:42.620 it's the truth there are no multiple truths there's only one truth so i mean you can say as much as you

01:08:49.340 want you can say i'm a christian i take god seriously but if your actions say otherwise then the reality

01:08:55.580 is probably not as pleasant as you want why do you consider yourself a christian right because i was

01:09:01.740 raised christian and i believe in jesus and i love jesus and i know that oh you're right never mind like

01:09:08.780 maybe some of the things i do like are sinful and like he doesn't support it but like he knows like

01:09:13.260 how i think and i like i know he forgives me for like the way that i do things because i i agree that

01:09:21.820 they're wrong but like there's also reasons why i do things and why i do only fans and he understands

01:09:27.500 that so i feel like i don't have a bad relationship with jesus well it doesn't matter how you feel

01:09:33.980 when no no okay god's position on sin is one of extremity like he is a perfect god and he demands

01:09:43.100 perfection that puts us in an extremely uncomfortable position because i'm not perfect you're not perfect

01:09:48.780 we are in the same boat we deserve god's wrath so he tells us to repent and believe what does repentance

01:09:55.820 mean it means i am broken over my sin i know that it is wrong and i hate it therefore i'm going to

01:10:02.540 turn away from it and chase after god it's not this laissez-faire like oh jesus knows my he knows

01:10:09.420 that i know it's sinful but i have to do it for now and i'm just going to spit in his face with my

01:10:14.220 actions and he'll just forgive me in the end that's not love if i had a relationship with somebody and i

01:10:20.060 said i loved them but i spit in their face with my actions i go and cheat on them i do all of these

01:10:25.340 evil things against them and then i come to them and say oh don't worry babe i love you i got eyes only

01:10:31.020 for you like i'm not going to believe me like i wouldn't believe me that's insane so when christians

01:10:38.460 come out christians come out and say that i love god he he knows i'm sinful but he he forgives me but

01:10:45.820 then i live my life like the world jesus himself says like if you live like the world if you look like

01:10:51.580 the world you are of the world my my children know my voice and they come to me there are good fruit i

01:10:58.860 mean good trees will produce good fruit bad trees will produce bad fruit i totally agree with you

01:11:04.060 like i'm not gonna lie like i agree with you and that's that's yeah what i do is like bad and like

01:11:09.020 whatever like i wish i could be like what like jesus wants for me but like i would encourage you

01:11:13.820 and i totally agree with you yeah i would encourage you to open up your bible and

01:11:18.380 and and just see what god has to say about like who he is i know he doesn't like what i do yeah well

01:11:26.220 if you why do you do a with can i ask i'm confused like i'm confused like you don't feel like you're

01:11:30.780 worth more than that grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars mason is being nice the bible

01:11:37.660 says that you are sinning without remorse and acting in unrepentant lust without changing your evil ways

01:11:44.220 and repenting and seeking atonement you are going to hell so he he's right but i also want you to see

01:11:51.820 like no i totally agree so what you're saying no i'm not saying i think that myself but like so

01:11:56.700 i'm not saying you disagree like actually well bring myself to it what i would ask you to do just

01:12:03.100 is you can leave it leave it number one submit yourself to a good local church find find one that

01:12:10.060 teaches the bible has plurality of elders who takes the word of god seriously read on it not

01:12:16.060 not just looking okay what does the bible say about sexual sin but who is god what is his character

01:12:22.700 learn about him because if you love him you'll want to know more about him and as you do that

01:12:27.260 you'll understand the deeper things that you need to know then all of the things like should i be

01:12:31.900 practicing this and that that'll become clear because right now it just doesn't seem that's clear for

01:12:36.540 you because i think you don't really understand who god is and what he asks of us and what he

01:12:41.340 provides because it's so much better than what i think i do have to move on sorry yeah life material

01:12:45.900 scale of one to ten go ahead i give myself a solid nine i give myself a four like an eight into the mic

01:12:53.500 please uh nine eight all right thank you grid one motorsports appreciate it here let me read a couple

01:13:03.660 chats here just to get caught up on them we have another one from grid one uh kiara can i have you

01:13:09.100 read these men can lose weight get a better job change their outlook on life and build themselves

01:13:14.780 into better men it's a lot harder for a plastic fantastic shallow salute to become a woman worth

01:13:19.420 having well okay thank you grid one motorsports really appreciate it good to see in the chat man

01:13:26.460 i think you've been gone a couple shows good to see you back we have flamethrower 82 hey thank you so

01:13:31.740 much man appreciate it me again yeah why does he have to change for you to like him we don't buy an

01:13:37.260 android wanting it for it to become an iphone that sounds like you don't like the product you're

01:13:40.940 buying for those of you who said that if you want to respond i agree wait but you she's confused

01:13:49.180 she's 18 her mind should probably change eight times since sitting in that seat oh her her prefrontal

01:13:53.180 cortex is that not developed okay i mean if these aren't great examples what i'd be talking about

01:14:01.660 okay why so the the question is why does he have to change for you to like him

01:14:08.220 she already likes him as is that's my understanding you just want to adjust certain behaviors

01:14:17.020 for what reason um wait why am i answering this i feel like i don't know who was the one who says

01:14:28.300 you like to change you want to change men i think it was you two that's why i'm directing it you can answer

01:14:34.620 too i feel like there's an inherent part of women that you know because we think more emotionally than

01:14:43.900 logically we're more likely to see the potential in a man and maybe it is part delusion in thinking

01:14:50.940 that he will get to that point but like the comment said i want i'm okay with dating an android as long

01:14:59.500 as he's he eventually wants to be an iphone as well if i could see him as an iphone like but he you know

01:15:07.020 but he has to be able to see himself one day as an iphone too so sorry i was thinking of something

01:15:13.020 else i wasn't i wasn't reacting to you and i don't think there's anything wrong with the way that

01:15:18.060 women inherently um see potential value in their in their in their man and i don't think it's wrong

01:15:25.420 for a woman to want her man to prosper and grow in the world and i don't think a man shouldn't feel

01:15:32.700 that way about himself either okay we have kill of cereal guarda silencio keep your beef on the streets

01:15:38.220 use that same energy and use it towards debating on different topics that the whatever podcast offers

01:15:42.780 that's why you're here that's why we're here from kill of cereal i was here to debate i don't

01:15:49.900 if that was directed towards you guys want to debate on something well if we could get around

01:15:53.660 the table on a full concisive thought something yeah is there anything dating related that you guys

01:15:59.660 disagree on just us two we're all over the table well you two yeah honestly we probably agree on a lot

01:16:06.220 of stuff which is funny she would have a common ground look at that there's common ground you guys

01:16:12.860 are like best friends now no i wouldn't okay never mind good talk good talk oh no okay okay um all

01:16:23.020 right it could be friends so juice it out we could duke it out then truce it out i don't i'm not a man i

01:16:30.540 don't do that that's how man men handle issues fight and then makeup that's fine fight fight and

01:16:36.140 then that's fine um like fight it out no like you can't be cool with somebody who's not cool with you

01:16:40.780 that makes no sense it's hard to be cool with somebody who makes everything a joke and doesn't

01:16:43.740 take anything serious because this we are all right moving on we're gonna move on we're moving on we're

01:16:48.700 moving on we're moving on we're moving on okay so wait it's aurora and avery correct okay so i'm

01:16:55.260 getting into i'm gonna get into some of my pre-show notes here so and this this is gonna sort of segue

01:17:00.620 from our conversation we're having about you know the of and uh so aurora you in your pre-show notes

01:17:07.260 here you said that you're in if you want to split nick you said that you were conservative and

01:17:14.460 traditional is that correct yeah okay and then avery are do you also consider yourself uh conservative

01:17:21.020 yes and traditional yes and you're both christian correct yes because avery i've seen in some of

01:17:27.580 your photos on your instagram you wear a cross um so we're gonna do and by the way actually opening

01:17:33.820 this up to the rest of the panel who here considers themselves traditional me traditional no you're

01:17:41.820 you're traditional you yeah traditional traditional but with the sense of reality and the way society

01:17:47.820 said okay traditional no no half traditional half traditional okay so we're gonna do a segment called

01:17:57.420 are they traditional uh so we're gonna pull up alex's instagram aurora's instagram and avery's

01:18:05.900 instagram we're gonna are they traditional in this dimension what's that i think by my instagram i'd be

01:18:12.780 traditional you're gonna say but i think yours is on private isn't it yeah all right we have alex's

01:18:18.460 instagram here nick make it uh small please who's that i'm scared all right so this is alex here

01:18:26.780 girl in seat number one scroll down is she traditional is she oh there it is there's uh there's the the

01:18:35.340 hubby the hubby the fiance excuse me okay all right the buns the booties the booties out okay oh

01:18:44.940 shit shots fired okay uh is she traditional scroll to the bottom scroll to the bottom there you go and

01:18:54.220 you do you also said that you do uh only fans correct yes but my fiance he manages it so

01:19:01.500 i feel like that could be traditional wait what but it's okay in a way i mean i agree that it's not

01:19:09.980 too yeah traditional or not traditional chat traditional not traditional did you know that in

01:19:15.980 the 1970s if you dressed like you did in that picture the secular authorities would have cuffed you

01:19:22.060 arrested you and throw you in a mental institute wait then which which photo in really most of those

01:19:27.180 photos like okay i agree isn't she in the bikini i mean yeah weren't there bikinis and

01:19:31.180 shit in the 70s i don't know it was like one pieces like extremely yeah like marilyn monroe was

01:19:41.740 risque in her like really covered one piece like yeah so traditional not traditional chat and but you

01:19:49.900 also do only fans yeah but my wait guys guys stop stop hey stop shut the fuck up guys shut the

01:19:57.020 fuck up kindly one microphone at a time go ahead um i stopped doing it for a while though we just

01:20:03.100 started back up but he manages the whole thing so it's like i'm not i don't look at it i don't post

01:20:09.020 anything to it he does it all and it's just me and him that's sad was it his idea yours i'm not gonna

01:20:15.100 that's sad it was both of ours regardless it's like why why would why would your soon-to-be husband

01:20:21.580 want to use your body the thing that should be sacred to him no i don't think so he's i mean

01:20:27.580 because we both agree he's he's man well it doesn't matter what you agree to i mean like there are a lot

01:20:32.700 of people who agree to be in terrible relationships i'm not i'm not saying that you have a terrible

01:20:37.020 relationship i'm just using it as an example but he's using your body and he's managing all of this

01:20:43.180 stuff the thing that should be his very personally very soon as you get married

01:20:47.740 for financial gain yeah essentially he's using you as an object to make money which is like deeply

01:20:53.580 concerning well okay i understand that too that's like from friday

01:21:01.500 she's gonna tell you she loves her pimp that's her daddy that's her boyfriend

01:21:04.620 they're gonna say he's my daddy he's your pimp daddy that's what he is he's p-ditty

01:21:09.500 like that's not he doesn't pin me out like that though like what he manages your only fans i mean

01:21:14.700 obviously he doesn't conventionally pimp you out but he does pimp you out to the internet he's

01:21:19.980 selling your body online is going to want other men to see your body men are protected i mean honestly

01:21:25.100 it's heartbreaking it's not like yeah i wouldn't say he doesn't care about you but i think he does

01:21:30.300 because he's he's been around many girls and he chose me over all of them right did he ask them

01:21:35.580 to do only fans first and they said no he didn't like any of them he did he only liked me i actually

01:21:40.620 i mean i i don't know what the scope of your only fans is but i mean just talking about your instagram

01:21:45.100 me personally i yeah i don't have like a massive judgment or mat major object like individual

01:21:52.940 objections to what's on your only fans typically my my train of thought with this question is

01:21:58.940 is if you call yourself a modern woman i don't really object to your instagram but if you're

01:22:05.180 going to like kind of try to not i don't know if the right word is steel but if you're going to

01:22:10.380 represent yourself as a traditional conservative woman but you're not particularly modest in your

01:22:17.340 in your public facing you know instagram it's like well you got to kind of call that out because

01:22:24.380 it's like well you're claiming to be this one thing but you're kind of not yeah i agree with

01:22:29.580 that too i try to be you know traditional okay but also i understand i understand that too though

01:22:37.100 i agree at the same time okay now we have two other traditional conservative no no no you can't walk it

01:22:44.380 back now can't walk it back now so so we're gonna pull up that's not like that you can't be

01:22:50.620 married next instagram please all right we have aurora in 4k here okay uh so scroll down

01:23:00.140 you do look great you do look good i'm sorry right traditional not quite wow your body i need

01:23:04.940 the average scroll scroll back up a little bit okay there it is okay traditional or not traditional

01:23:10.940 chat traditional or not scroll back up i believe in being up to the top and then there's your there's

01:23:16.780 your only fans link right no yes oh okay all right so you're saying okay i wouldn't say i'm

01:23:23.980 traditional but like and you're also christian too correct yeah do your family know you do i'm not

01:23:29.100 like strictly christian but like i believe in christianity i have no idea what that means

01:23:35.500 she believes in jesus she believes in a higher power i actually i agree with that statement i

01:23:40.460 i you can believe in christianity you can believe in jesus but even jesus said even the devils believe

01:23:47.260 that i know that i am god so you can believe in it but it's do you submit to god's authority do you

01:23:54.620 love god that is the defining question that's deep she don't even care no i do i do i swear to god i

01:24:02.060 i think that's deep and like i wish it's just jimsy i don't even we'll fix you fix me please we'll fix

01:24:07.740 you yeah we'll fix you okay not in a romantic way okay that's not what i meant yeah okay i don't know

01:24:14.700 the way you're saying um uh and then we'll pull up avery uh there's her of link at the top there

01:24:23.980 scroll down slow so chat traditional or not traditional booty photo basketball in a bikini

01:24:30.460 what the hell bikini bikini look it's not the worst we've seen worse on yeah but is it traditional

01:24:39.260 that's and you're christian correct wait that's pretty true scroll back up uh wait click on the

01:24:45.740 middle one there click on the middle one okay you're wearing a cross necklace right yes okay and

01:24:52.220 then x out and then the right one click on that one you're also wearing a cross necklace in this photo

01:24:57.980 too right okay so you're christian yeah okay well your your instagram is a not the most modest and then

01:25:06.620 you do have that link there to your uh of which i assume you post nude pornographic content

01:25:15.580 what do you mean you don't really say what what do you mean you can't say because then that will

01:25:19.020 leave my fans like they gotta subscribe to find out no no no we're not gonna play that game why don't

01:25:22.780 you just tell us why don't you just tell us what kind of content you wait what if it was just like

01:25:27.740 not new like bikini pics and everything like would you consider that well i'm not really interested in

01:25:32.300 right now and engaging in a hypothetical why don't you just tell me what it's not fully what's on

01:25:37.260 there not it's partial nudity though correct okay and same for you correct she said it's not about

01:25:43.820 me no well i'm just asking you that's what she said wait we'd be dj in the club right what do you

01:25:51.500 mean you're a little you're playing with yourself online no i don't yeah that's what you said like 20

01:25:56.780 minutes ago i did not say that but subscribe to find out anyway wait what

01:26:05.340 um do you want to answer the question wait what question so what kind of content are you making

01:26:12.220 on there um i am making nude content okay harshly nude okay so you're both christian you at least

01:26:19.660 initially said you were both conservative and and uh traditional um i'm just curious with you on your

01:26:25.580 only fans you you're wearing a cross do you wear that while you're shooting the adult content

01:26:31.740 i don't think so no you usually don't have any jewelry on okay now you are religious though

01:26:36.780 correct you're christian okay do you think god approves of you just split it please do you think god

01:26:44.460 approves of you of doing adult content no i'm i'm with the roar like i know i i understand that it's bad

01:26:50.700 but i know i know he knows it's bad and like i'm obviously not like the proudest but i still consider

01:26:57.820 myself christian i got a question hold on hold on hold on please it's no no no no hold on and do you

01:27:03.980 think that god approves of you doing adult content i don't think he approves it but i feel like he

01:27:08.940 understands reasons why i do it um i agree so she asked you earlier though why you do it and you said

01:27:15.500 because you're confused so why do you guys do only fans like why are you guys homeless without

01:27:19.660 it like money like what is yeah absolutely but i just can't work anymore like why i lived in a really

01:27:25.740 toxic household and like i didn't it wasn't my first choice like but you're 18 so it kind of was your

01:27:30.460 first choice because how much time did you know it was so there's a story there's a story in the bible

01:27:35.660 of the rich young ruler where uh jesus tells him come and follow me well no no the rich young ruler

01:27:42.220 presents himself to him says hey lord let me i want to follow you i want to do i want to love you

01:27:48.380 i want to do what you want me to do i've done all these things in my life i'm good i've kept the

01:27:53.020 commandments and then uh jesus tells him sell everything you own come and follow me and because

01:27:59.820 he was a man of great wealth and he loved his money and his riches more than he loved christ

01:28:04.620 he walked away and that's what that's what jesus commands of his followers to get rid of get

01:28:11.020 rid of the things that keep us away from him because if we claim that these things are more

01:28:16.220 important than our walk with god then we're not really his children well the world we live in

01:28:21.180 today is really evil and it's unfortunate because i wish i could live like that but i don't want to be

01:28:26.940 like struggling like i i love god but like i don't want to like in this world we live in it's modern

01:28:32.220 days like if you're homeless like your your life is i would i would make the argument that people like

01:28:38.860 i i would make the argument that people in jesus's time were struggling a little more than people who

01:28:45.340 are struggling right now so when he called the rich young ruler we're surrounded with shitty people in

01:28:51.740 this whole entire world we're surrounded okay moving on go ahead can i say something respectfully

01:28:55.980 i come from a very toxic household too i've been working since i was 16 years old i've never sold my

01:28:59.980 body i did everything i could to get to where i'm at i'm a licensed therapist now and i content create

01:29:04.540 do you know how hard it took me to get to where i'm at and i've never sold my body so when you're

01:29:08.460 saying that it's kind of like of an excuse i'm not trying to attack you whatsoever because like i said

01:29:11.820 it's your life whatever but you're using the excuse of having a toxic family i didn't have a mom i

01:29:16.140 didn't have a lot of things growing up so you could work at a warehouse you can be you can do a lot of

01:29:20.060 things i make six figures now because of social media but i had to get up there i used to bartend just

01:29:24.460 like her and i didn't want to do that i used to wash dishes i used to work in a freaking warehouse loading

01:29:28.780 trailers you think a girl wants to do that no so when you guys are saying this stuff and then

01:29:32.300 talking about god it makes no sense if you cared a lot about god you'd follow the way he he wants

01:29:36.940 you to be not however you think you should be and like the excuses to me i'm not trying to be rude but

01:29:40.700 it just sounds crazy well you know like i know it sounds crazy like i do only fans and i sin but i

01:29:45.500 still pray to god every day every night yeah i also still have goals i'm a student so if i if i steal

01:29:50.620 every single day and tell god please thank you like how does that work if i go hurting people in

01:29:54.700 this world and then say oh god forgive me you're not learning your lesson god sees you okay when

01:29:59.580 you make a mistake and you pray to god god sees you for what you do afterwards and you don't feel bad

01:30:04.060 enough you don't care enough because it would make you stop and like i said you just said you game right

01:30:08.460 you're beautiful you know how many people would get on your freaking twitch because of how you look

01:30:13.100 you don't even have to do you don't have to pull your clothes off i can help you make money instead of

01:30:16.540 doing all f it's i don't want this to seem like at all at all killer of cereal donated 200 your body

01:30:24.300 is the most sacred intimate form of your being says a lot about a person who is willing to compromise

01:30:30.620 that sanctity for something as superfluous as money get a skill save your soul amen it's i'm sorry

01:30:38.060 we're not talking you guys but there's just so many women these days that are like girls as soon as they

01:30:42.620 turn 18 they're like oh i'm just gonna do it while i'm in school to make some money it's not just

01:30:45.420 to do it to do make some money that's your life now like you will forever it's you it's your

01:30:50.220 reputation yeah so it's not just you guys but it's not just like oh i don't know what i'm gonna

01:30:54.300 do so i'm gonna make some money on only fans would you guys have gone to the strip club would

01:30:57.900 you guys have hopped up on porn hub if only fans wasn't an option no so then exactly why you

01:31:01.980 shouldn't have been doing only fans you weren't that desperate they're not though no they're not

01:31:05.420 it's all the same to everyone who doesn't do that stuff porn hub only fans stripper that's all

01:31:10.380 coincided all of this is actually everyone is soon even i mean honestly stripping i would say

01:31:16.460 is probably a less of a red flag i completely because online forever yeah it's because it's

01:31:21.420 online for yeah stripping is honestly less of a red flag to me than only fans that content's not on

01:31:27.820 there yeah forever saving your stuff like when you when they're 40 like it is a good it is a safe

01:31:34.140 bet that they're not going to have that content online but only fans when you're 40 when you're 50 when

01:31:39.180 you have children grandchildren that content will be online forever grid one motorsports donated 200

01:31:46.140 we literally live in the easiest time in the history of man just be real and say you do not

01:31:51.820 want to actually work you are not willing to move to somewhere that is cheaper to live get help be

01:31:58.220 better how is it thank you good one the easiest it's actually the hardest it's the hardest time wait

01:32:04.060 well wait hardest time for people who do only fans what wait that's not what he's okay he says it's

01:32:11.180 the easiest i have to history yeah i have to kind of push back on this you know wait i have to push

01:32:16.700 back hold on hold on hold on that's the easiest way like that's what he's talking about no but he's

01:32:21.980 saying right now we live in the easiest time in the history of man in terms of like comfort so do you

01:32:29.100 think life is easier today as compared to say 300 years ago did he say 300 years ago i mean out of

01:32:36.940 all that's what he means this is the easiest time to ever live i don't know i didn't live 300 years

01:32:42.380 well just take a guess yeah it so think back to your before electricity high school or college history

01:32:48.700 classes i feel like it's getting harder like every year life is harder not for us only fans there's no

01:32:55.340 indoor plumbing she's not looking at that site there's no indoor plumbing and all that stuff

01:33:00.460 that's going on in the past two years that's what i'm getting into her head she's not thinking about

01:33:04.380 the fact that 200 years ago we didn't have these things she her mind is only set on the fact that

01:33:08.860 gas and eggs are expensive right now so she thinks it's harder than before okay you know you know the

01:33:13.340 toilet there weren't toilets we didn't even have there weren't toilets okay in the ocean son

01:33:20.620 what if you're in idaho in the lake in the lake well think about it this way what if there's just

01:33:29.180 a tributary like that's just what if there's just a tributary what what if there's just a tributary

01:33:35.180 you know she does not know what that is you don't know what the tributary is nick could you google

01:33:38.380 tributary tributary google that i hope i used it right i probably imagine it's like something totally

01:33:44.380 unrelated tributary well modern comforts are like such a huge i got he's pulling it up google

01:33:50.940 tributary not the meaning just you got it nick i'll wait i want to hear what you have to pull this

01:33:55.740 shit up tributary a river stream flowing into a larger river lake you know you could okay then

01:34:01.420 shit in there like what the fuck that was pretty nerdy all right just to put it in perspective even

01:34:06.300 the homeless people now like around la a lot of them are able to get free food they have not

01:34:13.100 necessarily a safe place to live but there are things in place so that they live somewhat a

01:34:16.940 better life than people back in history yeah a lot of starving who didn't have any type of shelter

01:34:23.260 they at least have tents they have restaurants that they can go to where they get free food at the

01:34:27.740 end of the day yeah that's why actually choose to be homeless in la yeah that i was gonna make that

01:34:32.140 point and some of them have money like i know this there's this one homeless woman on venice beach

01:34:37.900 they call her the general that bitch is a millionaire and she chooses to be homeless

01:34:43.740 she has her own station on venice beach i save a lot of money only reason why she probably isn't

01:34:49.020 she wouldn't be a millionaire a lot of them choose to be homeless because it's easier to

01:34:53.340 take other people's money than try to work for their own right and there's one thing i do have to

01:34:58.860 say not only that if you put from i know from other people i haven't but if you apply homeless

01:35:05.580 and get food stamps they also give you i think like two hundred dollars a month or something like

01:35:09.580 that have you dental all that stuff for free yeah yeah it's crazy medical in santa barbara if you

01:35:13.740 spend one night in the shelter they'll get you on section eight like immediately yeah wow it's too

01:35:18.540 easy we're gonna switch gears here but you know listen if you guys want to consider

01:35:25.580 stop and being homeless would you be homeless if you stopped

01:35:29.260 you're not saving any of that money that's insane she just said she wouldn't be homeless if she

01:35:35.260 stopped so there's no when you wait oh if you started only i read i heard that wrong you would

01:35:39.420 be homeless if you stopped only fans um i mean i could live with my parents my family but like

01:35:44.940 without them probably yeah like just save your money if you be smart about it hold on moving on

01:35:50.140 living brian is about two months away from having a bigger bra size than kiko brian please respect your

01:35:55.740 viewers and lose some goddamn weight you're sitting further away from the table each episode yeah

01:35:59.580 man getting chubby working on it you know i gotta lose some weight it's in the works it's in the

01:36:03.660 works me and mason he's fucking putting me on boot camp oh yeah i'm i'm what did my titties do to

01:36:08.380 you guys bro good question god damn good question yeah i'm working on it boys i'm working on it

01:36:13.900 it doesn't help that uh maddie back here welcome back maddie she made a lemon cake for the show and i had

01:36:21.500 like two slices okay i'm working on it boys working on it diet time it's it's happening boys okay

01:36:27.340 where were we we were here let's just do this stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale

01:36:31.580 of one to ten going around the table starting with you go ahead um an eight okay i'm feeling like a seven

01:36:40.220 i'm feeling like a seven or eight eight ten i feel like it's kind of boring today so like a five

01:36:46.620 okay i'm gonna say a six seven because we're well la different states vary cinco five uh eight

01:36:57.580 five so we have one ten at the table we have a perfect a perfect woman here i don't think i'm

01:37:04.860 perfect but how can you be a ten no i think i'm a ten i love myself and i'm happy with myself but i

01:37:10.060 wouldn't change a thing about myself so i think i'm a ten you wouldn't change anything about yourself

01:37:13.420 no i'm happy with how i am no you don't no

01:37:19.980 i don't have you ever had lip filler no you might be telling the truth but also the way you're saying

01:37:27.020 it you're getting all shy no i haven't okay all right i love myself i'm happy with myself i think

01:37:34.300 i'm a ten you're beautiful thank you is your actual last name jenner i was just gonna say you look like

01:37:41.420 kendall jenner actually i feel like the three points that i take off from a ten is like the

01:37:46.940 three insecurities that i have which are what i don't know like they vary sometimes but like i feel

01:37:51.660 like it's majority like three maybe like i'll get like a tit job um i have a big ass forehead

01:38:00.300 and like um it's barely four feet it looks normal to me i don't know well to you guys yeah but like

01:38:09.180 to me like everyone has their own insecurities they call that body this i've seen your i've seen

01:38:13.180 clips of you you said you were like a six or a seven like what'd you say a six

01:38:16.380 like why do you have insecurities what what do you mean like like why do you give yourself a six

01:38:23.420 because like if you give yourself a ten you have no insecurities not necessarily well i have

01:38:29.420 insecurities that's why i give myself a seven i don't object i don't object to you i don't think

01:38:34.300 it's the insecurity well what is it then it's just like you make an objective evaluation of how you look

01:38:39.820 look but like to to how do i think i appear to everybody else i'm i'm fine with being an eight

01:38:46.540 like i'm it's that's because i'm insecure about my looks well then what does the two points take

01:38:52.780 off of then i just don't think i'm a perfect ten well what makes you not perfect that's insecurities

01:38:57.980 right well okay so like if you want to get in the nitty-gritty of it it's like okay how symmetrical is

01:39:02.780 your face no it's not insecure i just know i'm not perfectly my face isn't perfectly symmetrical

01:39:09.100 what if someone else thought that they were but you don't and that's what insecurities are

01:39:13.580 what do you mean someone else thought that you what you thought weren't perfect and they thought

01:39:17.820 that they were perfect but like you don't and that's what an insecurity is or the other person's

01:39:22.060 delusional yeah or the other person could just be insane okay i guess yeah like the evaluation of

01:39:31.980 yourself doesn't mean you have an insecurity if anything it just means you know the truth and you're

01:39:37.500 accurate i feel like yeah that's true too yeah maybe i'm accurate of my insecurities like maybe

01:39:44.860 everyone well maybe it's not an insecurity they didn't agree that my forehead maybe it's just like

01:39:48.620 you know it must just be an insecurity because everyone just said my forehead wasn't okay so

01:39:52.620 that's why insecurities aren't the points that like exactly yourself because that's it's the ranking

01:39:56.940 even though we're doing it ourself it's technically what other people view you as how do i think that

01:40:01.420 other people perceive me so then what does it mean is it what other people see me as or is what i see me as

01:40:06.860 so what are you guys asking what do you assume other people would rank you like compared to the

01:40:11.820 population i guess we'll never know because like we all have insecurities or we don't you know that

01:40:17.340 like wasn't the question it was like to rate yourself not what you think other people would rate you

01:40:22.780 everyone says i have like an accent from some random ass place i don't know canada i would have

01:40:26.860 guessed canada no some people say like australia i was gonna say you look australian bro it's blonde and blue

01:40:32.860 nice so okay you're the only 10 um okay i'd change my answer probably a seven is that up or

01:40:42.380 or maybe a six i said eight but probably now you're downgrading okay because if you're a seven then i'm a

01:40:47.660 six like oh my gosh is anyone gonna tell her not you not you um so you're not a 10 it's okay

01:40:57.340 is that like i i think i'm a 10 if you don't think so are you asking us what we think of ourselves

01:41:03.740 or what the question was think of ourselves because how would we know that the question was

01:41:07.340 like to rate ourselves not what i think other people well it's kind they're kind of related

01:41:12.220 though is the thing how 10 is like model status like think of all the most beautiful women in the

01:41:16.140 world if you're competing with them one to ten being the highest that's why i didn't say 10 i'm

01:41:19.660 competing with other women i'm definitely not okay yeah so compared to model status i give myself

01:41:23.980 seven i feel like i i agree like 10 is a model status like everyone wants to be a model like

01:41:29.260 perfect like every features are perfect whatever that's what i think a 10 is like okay but like

01:41:34.620 also models all look differently that's what they all look different are we taking these celebrities

01:41:38.300 online and that have a million things done to their face like i'm i'm ranking myself out of a group

01:41:43.500 of all natural women because i've never done anything to myself so i don't think it's fair that i have

01:41:47.020 to rank myself to kylie jenner and what's that girl with the hair over there like they have

01:41:52.860 hella work done that's true that's a whole other rank that's ranked them out of the best plastic

01:41:56.460 surgery you can get no that's fair that's right yeah you have to rank yourself against kylie jenner

01:42:00.620 i do for oh then i'll rank myself even higher

01:42:05.820 kylie before surgery come on she had surgery what do you mean she had like a nose job

01:42:13.740 wait so okay kind of related to this

01:42:15.980 do you think you'll be more physically attractive in 10 years than you are now

01:42:21.900 here we go again and uh no because you age 10 years yes you'll you'll be more attractive at 34 i i'm

01:42:31.340 keep on the path i want to get on then i think so at 34 34 we have we not seen what some of these

01:42:36.940 women look like you can look damn good of course you can still be very attractive of course all the

01:42:43.180 time a lot of the time nobody notices all right kika all right what about you i think um well like

01:42:50.540 i'm probably gonna get botox in 10 years so like yeah do you think i mean i don't know if i'll look

01:42:54.780 better do you think well i'll look good as a 28 that's not the question though will you be more

01:43:00.140 attractive in 10 years than you are now how am i gonna know that you know just kind of the nature of

01:43:05.660 aging that thing well do you want me to like teleport into time like i don't know well like

01:43:10.940 if you if you were a betting woman let's say we put you forward 30 years are you gonna be more

01:43:16.300 attractive in 30 years than you are old i'm gonna have botox and nobody like looks better with botox

01:43:23.980 you're 18 right so in 30 years you'll be 48 so are you more physically attractive now at 18

01:43:30.860 probably yeah versus 48 what about 38 i mean wait 38 let's bring it down 10 years 38 i'll probably

01:43:37.820 still look better now i mean everyone gets 20 at the age right about 28 though not everybody some

01:43:42.540 people look better when they're yeah yeah sometimes like sometimes but like that's if you take care of

01:43:47.420 yourself i mean even you said on a on a podcast like before you like younger women because for what

01:43:53.660 reason there's a whole bunch i mean there's a whole bunch of reasons yeah probably one because

01:44:00.860 one because they probably look better yeah i think that's so subjective i've never lined up an 18 year

01:44:07.100 old and 30 year old like if and been like 18 year old automatically more attractive like that's like

01:44:11.740 i don't think you're prettier than taylor and taylor is 10 years older exactly like it's just like age

01:44:16.300 that's why i don't think i don't see how you guys say like oh when you age you're getting ugly like

01:44:20.300 yeah there's obviously a threshold some people don't look good at a certain age and some people

01:44:23.180 do jada smith's mom looks really i mean i think i think most women are in there but when jada

01:44:28.460 sofia by what's her name she's like the mexican she's like 50 she's like 50 years old okay you

01:44:33.340 guys are getting no use here you guys are getting there's some extreme confusion going on here it's

01:44:38.220 not like okay i'm going to take one person who's 30 and another person who's 18. that's not the

01:44:43.260 question personally yeah exactly i get that but i'm saying i think personally most women look better like

01:44:48.540 compared to an 18 year old i think on average most women look better at 28 than they did at 18. i

01:44:53.420 agree because they're finding themselves better they know how to style themselves how to do themselves

01:44:57.340 up can get in the gym more can have their mind right all of that produces dress themselves better

01:45:01.500 that produces a more attractive woman yeah i don't i don't disagree that like knowing those things are

01:45:06.060 good i'm just saying like physically speaking guys will find those women who are between the ages of

01:45:11.260 19 and like 22 the most attractive also your comparison is a bit disingenuous because like

01:45:16.220 you're factoring in like oh if you're styling better the comparison would be a one-to-one

01:45:21.660 like for like comparison assuming the 18 year old knew how to dress the right way and style the right

01:45:28.780 way they don't though like they can i'm not saying that's ugly she looks great like they look great but

01:45:35.580 it takes a decade to figure out it could have happened at 24 it could happen she had been has terrible

01:45:40.460 style to you that might have been what was hit when she was your age but when she was my age she had good

01:45:44.940 style but now she has like weird because it's dated she's old here let's get let's get everybody's

01:45:49.900 answers let's get everyone doesn't care anymore maybe ask a man who's great when she was mine

01:45:54.620 she was wearing designer all the time i'm a captain you are tenants donated 200 brian please preface

01:46:01.500 this question with this phrase all else being equal you're right ladies all else being equal will you

01:46:07.820 be more or less physically attractive now or in 10 years all else being thank you i forgot to do it

01:46:14.220 you're right that's that's right i stay with all else being equal will you be more physically

01:46:19.900 attractive now or in 10 years but when it's unrealistic as hell but for the sake of the hype

01:46:25.820 the question then yes yes yes hypothetical i'm just i'm just gonna say yes yes wait no no i'm gonna

01:46:32.300 say no i'm not wait you're not gonna say that i'm gonna be just you can actually just use the

01:46:38.780 like word so we know what the yes or no means okay can i say that i will be just as attractive but

01:46:44.300 i'm older i have a fair question no no yes or no i mean she'll be more attractive i suppose you could

01:46:55.740 say you could remain the you'll look the exact same well okay yeah maybe i will but like will i be more

01:47:01.740 attractive or less attractive what if i'm the same amount of attractive but i look different

01:47:05.740 i'm the same person i just look older

01:47:10.860 i don't think what is what is what does looking older mean it is so what does looking older person

01:47:15.180 but i'm older that's how aging works so what do i change souls like what is so okay okay we're

01:47:21.420 we're assuming that this person has gone through puberty so 18 years old 18 years old and up so

01:47:28.140 what does it mean well like getting older when someone looks older what does that mean

01:47:32.460 um it means that they aged so what does age mean it means that they're getting older what do you

01:47:40.060 mean so usually okay i'll make it i'll kind of summarize it for you there we go there we go so

01:47:47.580 they start getting wrinkles yeah so are you going to so why would you get botox because i don't want

01:47:53.260 wrinkles so it would be less attractive i mean some people don't care but like so when you're 28 years

01:47:58.780 old and you start to have wrinkles are you going to be less attractive or more attractive than you

01:48:03.020 are right now okay i'm gonna say less attractive okay because i'll probably be insecure about my

01:48:06.860 wrinkles and i'll probably okay okay no no so the insecurity thing the insecurity thing is a

01:48:12.060 personality problem it's not a physical issue okay well i'm just gonna say i'm gonna be less attractive

01:48:17.580 okay yeah that's fair enough in 10 years all else being equal what does that mean like like you know how

01:48:27.260 to style yourself you have good hygiene all that like there's not like the same you get more fit

01:48:32.300 you're more fit no yeah like probably probably not but i already know i'm gonna be an attractive

01:48:39.500 person like no no no but but that's we're not all attractive we all acknowledge like you can be

01:48:45.180 attractive at 25 35 45 that's not it's just will you be attractive when you're 10 years older that's

01:48:51.660 all will you be no no no that's not even the question it's not even the question of will you be

01:48:55.580 attractive in 10 years again it's not the question if it's a comparison probably probably i will be

01:49:02.220 more attractive compared to now yeah and you're you're 26 right yeah so you'll be more attractive

01:49:07.660 at 36 than you are now at 26 i think so all things being equal all things being equal as in like not

01:49:15.260 working out or everything stays the same we just other than your physical age well then i would look the

01:49:22.220 same no your physical age you you would look different because you've aged but everything

01:49:28.860 else stays the same i don't know that's a hard question but i mean objectively probably not okay

01:49:40.460 i feel like i would look better now than i will all right there you go there you go i would look better

01:49:45.820 in 10 years you're gonna look hold on and i said that all things being you're gonna look better in

01:49:50.860 10 years okay i'm gonna say better in 10 years there's also two reasons why surgery which changed

01:49:59.740 physical and then also there is a whole thing okay all things being equal so let's assume you can get the

01:50:07.980 surgery now you can get the surgery now and then the surgery just whatever the improvements of the

01:50:13.660 surgery are they maintain throughout time okay then it would be i guess huh older yeah wait the only

01:50:22.460 thing that changes your age nothing else changes so the effects of aging the only thing that takes place

01:50:30.860 then i guess better now then yeah wait so okay really quick going back to you so you're 23 right now

01:50:37.660 you're saying you'll be more physically attractive at 33 than you are now 23 yes and then it sounds

01:50:43.980 like you changed your answer begrudgingly because there's this whole gen z and into the mic there's

01:50:50.300 this whole gen z and millennials which have been looked at like you could even look it up online why do

01:50:56.460 millennials age better than gen z right now

01:50:59.180 a lot of the younger no this this has been a whole thing i think it's reversed actually uh

01:51:05.900 millennials age worse no yeah because there's that one what's his name he's like jordan the stallion

01:51:10.540 that's it he he talks about this because there was like people kept saying why do millennials look so

01:51:16.380 old and he looks like he's like 36 and he's like 26 and he because he's commenting on this phenomena

01:51:23.900 where millennials just seem to look older well what she's referencing is a lot of gen z as of right

01:51:29.580 now they don't look bad because they're still young but they look significantly older at that age than

01:51:34.620 millennials did so how aging works if they already look a lot older like i see a lot of 20 year olds

01:51:39.740 who look this older than 30 years a lot more now than before so when they are 30 they're going to look

01:51:44.860 40 yeah so she's saying that gen z is aging a lot worse yeah because they same with money i thought

01:51:51.580 she said it was the other way around like they're older but they look younger uh that's what she

01:51:55.660 was saying i think the women look older that's what i'm saying yeah yeah we agree women look older

01:52:00.860 but men look a lot younger i don't know it depends it depends i think that's because of surgery and

01:52:07.100 still okay but anyway this is totally irrelevant we're getting off topic okay i think i'll look

01:52:11.740 better now than later in life okay uh going around the table once more for those of you who said

01:52:16.700 better in 10 years let's double down on this better looking in 20 years versus 10 uh versus

01:52:23.260 compared to now all things being equal i don't know no i'm gonna go with 34 is the best okay so you will

01:52:30.700 be better looking in 10 years yeah but not in 20. did you say better better in 10 um no no oh you said

01:52:37.020 better now yeah did you yes okay you said you said better in 10 years correct

01:52:42.620 yes if i recall i think no we grudgingly i said no you conceded yeah okay so given all the conditions

01:52:51.020 i'm assuming you you would also in 20 years you will not be more physically attractive than you are

01:52:55.580 now mm-hmm better now better now but you did say you will be better uh no i said i was better now

01:53:03.820 even for the 10 year yes i think you did yeah are people just change am i no that's what i said

01:53:11.020 no she's she said oh she did oh you're right i you're right sorry there's a lot of people

01:53:16.460 so you're 23 you said you will be better looking at 33 what about 43 no okay and then she said older

01:53:25.420 definitely not for the higher age mark there okay that was a doozy that was a doozy beating a dead horse

01:53:35.100 oh man i it's hypotheticals and these questions are very hard so i guess kind of the kind of the

01:53:41.100 thought behind asking this question in particular is if you are at your most attractive in your 20s

01:53:47.500 that is your highest potential to find yourself a good mate so if you so for those who want to get

01:53:53.420 married for those who want to eventually settle down with a man it is your best chance to find

01:53:59.260 the most attractive guy one but also the most like uh most attractive guy personality wise as well

01:54:06.300 so you're using the assets that god has given you at like ages 19 to 22 to secure yourself the best man

01:54:13.980 possible i mean if we're speaking simply pragmatically now of course you you probably uh i don't know for

01:54:21.660 some some girls will get a really high quality man in their 30s but that's the exception rather than

01:54:27.980 the rule why would i want a man who's going to find me unattractive in 10 years well no okay i'm not

01:54:33.500 saying he's going to find you unattractive i'm just saying killer of cereal donated 200 plastic surgery

01:54:40.540 makes you look physically ill later in life it doesn't keep up with the rest of your aging body the more

01:54:47.260 you have the worse it looks the older you get especially with clothes off it's

01:54:52.540 fucking go based fucking take from killer of cereal i'm a natural body supremacist get the

01:54:59.580 frick out of here with your plastic surgery you converted me last episode i am also a natural

01:55:06.540 body he's a natural body supremacist we're fucking radicals here we are this is a fucking supremacist

01:55:11.660 supremacist like if we came into power like me and mason we're going to run for for office we're

01:55:18.060 going to be like probably president of the u.s or something like yeah we're going to literally

01:55:22.620 federal ban on fucking plastic surgery federal ban federal ban that is the platform we will

01:55:31.580 they'll be a classic surgery these days what's that i feel like the beauty standards depend on

01:55:36.060 like people like they like beauty standards are like kylie jenner and she has so many like so much

01:55:42.220 plastic surgery like yeah i think that's just for like women's like and a lot of people own

01:55:47.180 perception of the the beauty thing men don't find that stuff attractive yeah we honestly most guys find

01:55:53.500 it kind of repulsive i gotta agree with that some men love it yeah but it's also like if you don't need

01:55:59.340 it like then you're like i don't know some girls aren't naturally like born with like features that

01:56:03.980 without plastic surgery that you guys like most guys actually like would prefer the natural look

01:56:09.340 over over double down let me give you the list so you wouldn't say that about like some ugly girl

01:56:14.940 with like some like third thing is though they wouldn't like that ugly girl regardless they

01:56:19.500 wouldn't like that ugly girl with the augmentations like that's the difference there is there might be

01:56:24.940 some men out there like i'm sure a lot of them are in la and stuff like that who love that fake

01:56:29.100 plasticky look that's what they want but yeah i don't know if this is a great argument here but

01:56:48.540 jeff bezos the woman he's dating is like super plastic face all done up lips fake boobs she is

01:56:57.420 older but like and so but i was thinking like damn this is like one of the wealthiest i don't know

01:57:03.020 if he is currently the wealthiest but one of the wealthiest men in the world billionaire more many

01:57:07.820 times over and i'm like that's who you're i mean bro you could do better he doesn't want a wife he

01:57:14.460 wants the wristwatch he wants like jeff bezos look you like what you like

01:57:20.380 but i mean dude he probably sees himself as a trophy as well some do but they're that's

01:57:27.340 weird i'll say this like you wait i'll say this so because i'm a natural body supremacist yes i would

01:57:34.300 prefer a girl let's talk let's talk breast implants right i'd prefer a girl who's got no boobs just flat

01:57:40.700 over some fake titties she could have perfect fake titties i'd prefer her with just no boobs if they're

01:57:46.060 lopsided if there's some other sort of whatever i prefer that over fake titties let's see lipo i'd

01:57:52.060 prefer a little belly fat over the weird lipo belly it like looks all dehydrated and

01:57:56.380 up the belly button i don't know it just looks weird like this there's something to the skin it

01:58:02.380 doesn't look right let's see what else bbl give me a flat bum over a bb perfect bbl don't give a

01:58:08.220 fuck flat bum take i'll take a flat bum they can even be pancakes i'd prefer pancakes

01:58:12.780 you can like go to the gym you can work on the booty you can work on the booty let's see what

01:58:18.220 else oh lip filler i'd prefer flat lip or not flat lip small small upper lip then then the lip

01:58:23.660 filler i'm not a fan so also labiaplasty yeah i also call into question like wait who you did you

01:58:30.940 want to come in on something or sorry one of you go ahead like for like a female though like if that's

01:58:35.100 what you like and you're insecure about something and a little bit of filler is going to help that or

01:58:38.940 that's going to make you happy then i don't think there's anything wrong with that what do you mean

01:58:42.220 something we should encourage what do you mean anything i'm not encouraging it i'm not encouraging

01:58:45.980 it but i don't know i think you have one life and if you wait do you have lip filler no i don't any

01:58:53.660 what do you think does it look it looks like you do it looks like yeah it really does i think it i

01:58:58.460 mean it looks like she could like it looks like natural like i couldn't tell like it doesn't look

01:59:02.380 fake you know i don't but i don't like the lip filler i don't think there's anything wrong with

01:59:08.860 it no if that's what you like then go ahead and do it that's what makes you happy i think there's

01:59:13.420 something wrong with it with doing at a young age the change lip filler does is fairly minimal

01:59:18.860 compared to other procedures like bbl and breast implants it's far less invasive um i think from the

01:59:25.740 front it doesn't look terrible from the side it's like so it you could tell it just doesn't look

01:59:32.780 right like this it looks you could see it i mean some people do minimal but then the girls like who

01:59:37.180 go overboard with it overboard humor what's that uh that's that shit looks weird but you you think

01:59:44.220 there's nothing wrong with it no if that's it's your it's like that's your body if that's what you

01:59:49.820 want to do with it and that's what's going to make you happy go for it this is why me and mason are

01:59:54.140 reintroducing the patriarchy to society okay see because we as men you guys you guys want us to be

02:00:01.420 protectors yes you guys want it and so we need to protect women not just from immediate physical

02:00:08.060 threats but we need to protect you of threats of mind emotionally and currently there's an attack

02:00:15.580 on women's minds and men's minds in different ways there's an attack on your minds you're getting

02:00:21.340 they're implanting the virus into your brain you're not attract you're not worthy or you're

02:00:26.620 not attractive if you don't get this procedure and this is here's kylie jenner here's kim kardashian

02:00:33.740 if you don't look like her then there's something you're wrong with you buy this product waste your

02:00:40.140 money be a good consumer go under the knife risk potential life and limb because bro these uh whenever

02:00:48.140 you go under uh anesthesia there's always a chance of death you can always die whenever there's

02:00:52.620 anesthesia involved you're getting surgery spending thousands of dollars to cut up your body put plastic

02:00:58.220 in it and i'm against it i'm standing up we're we're done we're done with this wait i do what makes

02:01:05.020 you happy what's that brian where do you stand do you consider this plastic where do you stand wait um

02:01:11.100 gastric bypass surgery since technically the body is natural it's surgery but it's not considered

02:01:17.580 plastics well it is plastic surgery but it's a different form you're cutting your stomach yeah

02:01:22.460 weight loss but your body once you lose that fat you're technically not plastic you'll look natural

02:01:28.940 i mean isn't that reserved for people who are morbidly obese i'm not not necessarily

02:01:34.620 have you had have you had the procedure i actually just got approved for it

02:01:38.540 okay i mean so that's not plastic surgery it's not that's not the same thing at all but uh

02:01:47.260 i don't think that's really within the realm of what we're talking about changing your body though

02:01:51.900 still surgery because i think it's medical if you need to get a a liver transplant you need a skin graft

02:01:58.140 because you got burned or something like that's not exactly the same thing it's medical it's medical

02:02:02.620 induced plastic surgery it's because like you want to lose weight instead of like doing it

02:02:07.740 cheating and doing it the easy way it's like you're still consider it cheating oh not not really i

02:02:12.220 mean well like you're taking your health seriously yeah you're gonna you're gonna shed that weight

02:02:17.580 and it makes it easy it's the process is made easier by making your stomach smaller

02:02:23.260 so then you can't take as much food in here let's stick let's let's stay on topic yeah so it's not

02:02:29.020 exactly past surgery that's like a no yeah it's different different realms yeah go ahead i agree

02:02:34.940 with him sorry i know wait quick go ahead go ahead we just think the same thing for people that go get

02:02:41.180 filler for acne scars or would you consider that kind of in the realm of a guest i can't even say that

02:02:47.260 gastric sleeve yeah gastric bypass yeah that is a tricky one i mean i'm not familiar is that a new

02:02:54.220 development or something um it's actually it's not it is it is correcting for something that was

02:03:00.460 caused i guess like what would it's not permanent so no yeah so when it's not permanent what happens

02:03:06.780 same thing with the lip filler lip filler after a while it dissolves but this doesn't dissolve it

02:03:10.940 migrates yeah yeah and it migrates yeah that's what i was gonna say so would it look the same

02:03:15.100 before and after everybody's different okay i've seen people who their scars worsen after because it

02:03:21.500 deepens them i think we're so the primary argument here yeah yeah i'll get you in there i mean there's

02:03:29.900 look there these sort of more plausibly medically indicated uh justifications for cosmetic or plastic

02:03:39.180 surgery i mean the origin of plastic surgery was for fixing deformities or war injuries where men got

02:03:46.060 half their face blasted off i don't object to cosmetic or plastic surgery under those circumstances

02:03:51.980 where there's some deformity or cleft lip or whatever and they fix the lip or cleft lip is that

02:03:58.460 what it's called that's fine i that's fine but when we're there's really no medically indicated reason

02:04:06.220 to get silicone implanted in your breasts because you don't like the size of your breasts what about

02:04:13.820 this right and yes oh what if she has breast cancer fine if i give you that if i give you

02:04:19.340 fine if they have breast cancer they have breast removal whatever fine what if she births you three

02:04:24.700 beautiful triplets breastfeeds them for two years has another kid breastfeeds that one for two years

02:04:30.380 she got you know she they messed her up loose skin that's kind of where i'm like i would understand

02:04:36.300 if she'd want to get those things like that's like you were nourishing the child which in exchange

02:04:42.060 ruined part of your body sure i feel like that's fair to allow i would have to look more into the

02:04:47.260 the safety profile of getting that amount of skin removed if it's safe then i don't think i think

02:04:51.900 most of the time i don't think i would have objections not even they don't even do i don't think i would

02:04:55.500 have objections you keep you keep introducing these like kind of not really what i'm talking

02:05:02.460 about your opinion on that one like actually as a man like if you guys are opposed to plastic surgery

02:05:06.700 would you still be opposed to something like that i don't think so i don't think so but again my

02:05:12.540 primary thing is with the bbl the lipo the lip filler unnecessary breast implants these are not the

02:05:19.500 abundance of it really ever medically in indicated yeah i would say like if it's uncomfortable for my wife

02:05:25.260 to have like sagging breasts then yeah like i don't want her to be uncomfortable but it's more

02:05:31.740 of the personality issue or like how they see themselves if they see themselves so poorly like

02:05:37.020 i have to change all this stuff i hope i would i would have noticed that while i was dating them

02:05:42.220 because i don't want to date somebody who is constantly like i don't measure up to some arbitrary

02:05:47.660 standard i think you're beautiful i'm dating you because i think you're beautiful yeah you don't need

02:05:51.660 to change anything i i find you hot like that should be and they should they shouldn't have to

02:05:56.780 have a boyfriend to tell them that yeah they should be like i love the way god made me he made me

02:06:01.180 intentionally this way maybe there are a couple like medical things they want to change it's not

02:06:04.940 how he made her though like that's why it's kind of like reconstruction in my eyes because if she had

02:06:09.500 nice perky you know and then yeah the kids what if she just wants her nice little perky babies

02:06:13.180 bad yeah you had something yeah because she was saying something about like uh lip filler and all

02:06:18.380 that stuff's okay what about the girls who get it and they still don't love themselves i see so many

02:06:21.900 girls online crying about their bbls botched their boobs dc uh fly's wife passed away left three kids

02:06:27.660 behind like you know how you know how dangerous that is all because you wanted a boob job like i get it

02:06:32.380 love yourself things like that i wear makeup i don't want to be a hypocrite but i think that altering

02:06:35.900 that to a point where you're under anesthesia and all that over what a nose and like there's some women

02:06:39.820 who have beautiful ethnic noses and they chop them off to have this little who knows from the

02:06:43.660 grinch why and you're beautiful like you know what i mean don't alter yourself if you don't have lips

02:06:47.820 you don't got them you have other things that matter like i might not have the best body but i

02:06:52.380 might have a good personality you might have something else i feel like women don't understand

02:06:56.220 there's more to offer than just your looks that's what i think he's probably getting at and you

02:06:59.660 surgery is not important yeah the surgery yeah that's a great point surgery doesn't usually fix

02:07:03.500 the problem in the mind of the woman it usually like it amplifies the problem yeah

02:07:09.500 yeah that's why they go too far a lot of the time exactly and sometimes botox doesn't even look

02:07:13.740 good yeah botox is the hardest the harder one to read but the fillers it really yeah the fillers i'm

02:07:19.660 excited to see what everyone's gonna look like in about 20 years i am like they look great now but

02:07:25.900 they're i'm 20 years when you just keep adding for real just get in the gym it's like that's the

02:07:32.460 that's the truth that's true like if you really want to improve your physical look get in the gym

02:07:37.100 confidence in general yeah confidence in general your ability to stay disciplined it improves

02:07:41.100 yourself as a human being you'll feel confident like get start lift heavy weights twice a week do

02:07:45.980 some cardio like it's it's not that difficult it is hard sometimes to get in the gym but just get in

02:07:51.580 there and do something you'll fall in love with your body and its ability and all the work that you

02:07:55.740 it is so awesome yeah right we have two we have two chats here we have uh hey thank you for the

02:08:03.100 message hold up why are we discussing attractiveness when half the girls are of blank one of them xl and

02:08:10.860 a virgin bible chad damn where has society come to okay um why are we discussing okay um pretty

02:08:17.820 appreciate i don't see how any of that what are you sent through your instagram let's she wants

02:08:26.460 she wants to see you she wants to see you all right we have deplorable dude uh kiara can you read this

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02:08:53.820 oh thank you mike tyson in the wig too

02:08:55.900 if you i'm so sorry if you are a man if that was a man who left that comment you are

02:09:03.180 gay as hell my boy you just rated a man the highest at a table of all women let's go it's

02:09:07.900 fine to have your opinions but first of all my boyfriend wouldn't even fix his lips to rate another

02:09:12.060 man first of all second of all to pick a man as the highest i mean have your preferences but like

02:09:16.940 i said it's a preference it's a it's opinion and it's a preference and you prefer men in my opinion

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02:10:42.220 while you are at it uh one thing i forgot to ask at the beginning of the show some of you have maybe

02:10:48.060 seen the show before i'd like to i should have started here is there anything any of you disagree

02:10:52.620 with on on with me on anything maybe you've seen something on the show is there anything that any of

02:10:57.340 you disagree with me on on anything about everything there's something you disagree with

02:11:04.220 me on oh that's right let's pull up your tweets let's pull up your tweets that's right we we pulled

02:11:09.180 this up a while ago nick can you pull up the tweets yeah uh make it bigger please

02:11:20.940 oh that wasn't the tweet but okay we'll get we'll get to it so

02:11:24.220 fyi for every hoe out there is a man that either actually won't in your own voice we'll have you

02:11:29.340 read it if fyi for every whore out there is a man that either failed her or gave her a platform

02:11:35.420 to be a whore oh hot take hold on we'll get to that oh kiar can you read that kooky how do you

02:11:42.940 know it's not a woman trapped in a man's body let's talk and get another rage quit what was the

02:11:49.260 blinked out i can't even like usually i can just like put two and two together trans that's what's

02:11:54.140 oh let's talk kooky how do you know it's not a woman trapped in a man's body what are you referring

02:11:59.820 to the the guy who was rating people and you're like you're i think so right how i do i know it's

02:12:05.100 not a woman trapped in a man's body the guy because you said he was oh he was uh that's fine still gay

02:12:12.060 rainbow because he's a now a trans gay man like what are we talking about that changes absolutely nothing

02:12:17.740 maybe we'll thank you for your hundred dollars maybe we'll hit on that topic later

02:12:23.660 it's not right without chase well we'll get we'll try to do round two on that if you want to see

02:12:28.060 guys if you want to see round three chase versus kiko the the trilogy the final showdown

02:12:36.700 fucking spam his dms to make it happen he goes down you know all right uh let's pull back up the

02:12:43.100 twitter please oh no actually well you already read it excuse me so actually just

02:12:47.580 let me pull uh okay his man so wait what but why all the blame on the guys why the blame on the

02:12:55.020 men no and i think both parties are equally bad that tweet was in response to the manosphere putting

02:13:03.500 the blame on the women particularly and interesting i think women like that do of and work in the sex

02:13:10.620 industry and stuff they're you know it's unfortunate you know but they're doing what they feel they need

02:13:16.540 to do to make money um in society and at the end of the day you know you have men going around oh

02:13:23.420 whore this whore that you're a whore for doing it and there's that opinion you know or or maybe more

02:13:30.220 so coming from a place of like okay women that do of or sex work like they're ruining society right

02:13:36.220 like they get a lot of blame for ruining society in the manosphere we're talking extremes here really

02:13:41.900 red pill men that are on twitter and whatnot have this idea that women are the ones ruining society

02:13:47.340 because of doing things like of and whatnot that tweet was more in rebuttal of like maybe look in the

02:13:53.660 mirror a little bit as a man or as the man species and realize that a lot of of women had an absent father

02:14:02.780 or they have some simp giving them the money allowing them to do this line of work

02:14:07.660 i mean there's there is a component of supply and demand obviously so if there was no demand for

02:14:13.900 this sort of thing right well why would women do it so i mean i i think that uh i agree with you that

02:14:20.540 there's uh certainly both men and women have some uh accountability here responsibility it's the

02:14:27.260 industry's fault men should stop paying for of and consume less or no porn yes that would be

02:14:34.540 only fans should get banned and yeah and abolish well hold on we have three only fans girls here

02:14:39.980 what do you guys think of that figure it out do you guys get a real job hold on this

02:14:43.980 shit's ridiculous wants to see you guys on the street she wants to be homeless so it's okay i guess

02:14:52.700 she has a whole fiancee so they can figure it out my fiancee literally okay that's fine he um went homeless

02:15:00.620 on purpose before okay and this is i mean well he was rich and then he decided he didn't want to be

02:15:08.060 rich totally unrelated to what we're talking about but okay well i'm just saying what's the question

02:15:13.340 what are you pointing at me for

02:15:17.100 how do you feel she wants should not be banned she wants to ban only fans kiko's a radical red

02:15:22.380 pillar i'm not i'm making i used to that's the thing it doesn't take red pill to not be for all

02:15:27.900 these who's a misogynist and she she's an anti-feminist she hates women she hates women she wants

02:15:34.060 180 she wants to stop sex work no i've always how do you feel about that if you watch the original

02:15:38.460 videos i've always said this an aurora i disagree i'm making more money than i was when i was working

02:15:43.340 like a normal job that's not the question here that'd be sad if you weren't making a lot wait

02:15:48.940 did you ever you worked a normal job before what did you do i worked at jersey mike's that's all i

02:15:54.620 worked at jersey mike's that's all you ever did bro i'm done we're only 19. wait that's exactly why

02:16:00.540 we're saying it should be abolished it's giving too many her wifey score kind of went up though

02:16:04.540 because she's good at making sandwiches honestly right a little bit her wifey score i do love me some jersey

02:16:11.660 mike's i will admit put a ring on her that's exactly why it says to be abolished you are 19 you're 19

02:16:16.940 you're 18 barely gave i gave it a shot i worked at jersey mike's that's nothing you have even

02:16:22.300 tainted your whole career path by doing this only fans yes you're making a lot of money right now but

02:16:27.100 you could do a lot of i know these servers walk out with 600 a night from my restaurant

02:16:33.500 on a bad night only fans doesn't get like taken down or banned or whatever wait you know what we're

02:16:39.260 going to actually move on because we already talked about yeah yeah we talked about abolishing

02:16:42.540 it uh next tweet uh okay oh wait publicly shaming or i'll have you read it okay publicly

02:16:52.300 shaming whores to fix society sure sounds good while we're at it let's check your browser history

02:16:57.500 and publicly shame any man that gives them a platform when you say gives them a platform like

02:17:02.140 what do you mean like the guys who right wait haven't we checked their browser history of the

02:17:06.300 people that are like tipping on here talking shit they're not gonna show they're gonna delete

02:17:09.500 it first i don't think she means literally let's pc check them it's again it's the same exact thing

02:17:14.460 with my other tweet in in retaliation of these the manosphere and the red pill blaming only women

02:17:22.220 for the downfall of sexual degeneracy and and a lot of things that are happening in society when these

02:17:29.580 same men that are sitting here critically on the internet probably have of subscriptions and

02:17:37.260 have porn in their browser history i guarantee a lot of men in the manosphere and the red pill

02:17:41.980 community especially one that are very centered on hating women do the exact thing that they hate

02:17:48.140 which is view porn although i do wonder like can you view pornography but also realize that it's not

02:17:57.980 good for society absolutely i know it's a perhaps is it is it like someone who's someone who's addicted

02:18:05.100 to crack cocaine i'm not sure if it is someone who's addicted to crack cocaine can intellectually

02:18:09.980 know that it's not good for society and still be addicted to crack cocaine that's true yeah right

02:18:16.300 well we'll move on next next i think this is the tweet maybe the one that i reacted to

02:18:21.260 okay oh wait scroll up scroll up no no no no just scroll up because there's the initial put us on

02:18:31.820 the other side please small if you want to read it go ahead okay the truth is men don't want a soft

02:18:38.700 feminine quiet woman they want a bold competent dominant woman who will be feminine and submissive

02:18:44.620 for him just like how women want the bad boy trope to be good for her and then you said men who agree

02:18:51.660 are alpha masculine chads and men who disagree are beta insult internet and nons and i'm not i didn't

02:18:57.180 put that secondary tweet there to just like oh like screw everyone i i put that because of as you can see

02:19:03.100 i got almost 400 replies on that tweet and just from what i could my own objective analyzation of the

02:19:11.100 people that were responding to me i had a lot of anonymous anonymous men hating on me which probably if

02:19:17.420 you're anonymous like that you're an incel and i had men that had normal non-anonymous profiles

02:19:22.620 that agreed with me men that worked out were fit i mean i don't know about their character as a person

02:19:28.940 but that was just because i know that second part kind of perturbed you a little bit no well you mean

02:19:33.900 your reply yeah not well pull it back up really quickly and this is where we disagree so i guess

02:19:40.780 i'm a better beta incel internet anon but tab on over so this is this is what i responded scroll up a

02:19:52.620 little bit scroll up or here i can't read it though so just scroll down a little bit or put us in the

02:19:58.540 corner okay in the in the corner the corner works the corner works okay the truth is so this is me

02:20:08.220 almost just just hide it just hide it please okay the truth is women don't want a strong masculine

02:20:14.460 bold man they want a soft feminine submissive man who will be masculine and dominant for her

02:20:21.260 so that's where i disagree with you because you're saying the truth is men don't want a soft

02:20:24.700 feminine quiet woman they want bold competent dominant woman who will be feminine

02:20:28.220 submissive for him but like if i use your own language like your same formatting and i reverse

02:20:34.940 it would you agree with my statement is the truth is women don't want a strong masculine bold man they

02:20:41.180 want a soft feminine submissive man who will be masculine dominant for her absolutely not that

02:20:46.140 completely misconstrues my whole point of what my original tweet was but i'm literally flipping but but

02:20:52.300 when women and men are not equal right so you can't necessarily negate like what i said in

02:20:57.980 terms of men and women's interactions and like perspectives and our psychology it's not the

02:21:04.060 same so to flip it in the same manner and apply what you said to women for men is just it's just

02:21:09.260 not the same because men and women have different psychology well essentially what you said is you

02:21:13.740 want you men want a woman who's dominant like in the world and then but they want her to be submissive to

02:21:22.060 them yes no that's just not true no i agree it is true it is true they just don't want a

02:21:28.780 combative woman there is a lot of men like you you didn't agree with me and i think that's because

02:21:35.180 cerebrally a lot of men get caught up on the first part of my tweet which is men don't want a soft

02:21:40.140 feminine woman and that's a very generalized blanket statement that i agree is a generalized blanket

02:21:45.180 statement but cerebrally a men think oh yeah soft feminine woman that's what i want you know but

02:21:52.300 as humans nickelodeon donated 200 women can't handle being wrong unless two percent of the

02:21:59.900 people that agree with them are saying what they want to hear to hate fuck them or has a fake profile

02:22:05.180 picture anyways um you were saying as thank you nickelodeon uh you're saying as humans as humans right we're

02:22:14.780 complex creatures we're mind body and soul spirit so we have our cerebral mind we have our primal urges

02:22:22.860 as our body and we have our soul and spirit urges and men cerebrally maybe they'll be like yeah i want

02:22:29.900 a soft feminine woman but there's something primal about an alpha female that really gets a man

02:22:34.780 like going erroneous erroneous i i do think it is like okay so when you brought up the tweet on the

02:22:43.260 podcast your co-host or whatever he said i agree with that in the sense of conquer right there's

02:22:51.180 who said who said that the ceo the watch ceo guy disavow i disavow his no i think what you're talking

02:23:00.780 about no but as men you you're you're a leader right you go out into the world and you're

02:23:05.500 conquer you're gonna build yourself up and you know x y and z that same principle can be applied

02:23:10.380 to women and say back in the caveman days do you want a soft feminine feminine woman waiting

02:23:16.380 back at you at the cave while a lion's attacking her and your baby while you're out getting the bison

02:23:21.820 or do you want a confident alpha woman that's going to be able to fend for

02:23:25.980 your what no no wait i think what i think you're a little confused on competence versus dominance

02:23:34.140 i want a competent woman i do not want a dominant woman i want a woman who knows her stuff what she

02:23:40.060 believes in what she knows is true i don't want a woman who is like super masculine in her attributes

02:23:45.980 super dominant super like i'm alpha that's like a turn off no i want a competent woman i want a woman

02:23:52.140 who's intelligent who knows what she's doing but i also want a soft feminine woman you can be

02:23:57.180 competent and soft at the same time absolutely she should be soft and feminine for you but wait

02:24:03.500 so hold on um your woman should be agreeable to you but do you want your woman being agreeable with

02:24:09.900 every man exactly she just talked about soft well so yeah so that's why i think it's like it's a well

02:24:15.260 that would mean that would mean that she's incompetent because then because then she's a pushover

02:24:20.220 then she'll talk a lot of men say when they say soft feminine woman that's what she's trying to

02:24:23.900 say or or or bringing up from something from the very beginning you guys said you wanted a woman

02:24:29.420 that would come to you first is that not that's not a soft sweet feminine exactly yeah exactly no

02:24:36.940 i've talked to so many women that will not go and approach a guy because they don't like that

02:24:40.460 stuff they think it's like she just said it's masculine to do that right and she's soft and sweet

02:24:43.740 maybe it's because they want to be dominant what i feel like that would be the opposite

02:24:49.980 that would be the complete i don't know i i don't know these are not contradictory positions to hold

02:24:56.300 to say in some instances it's desirable for a woman to take initiative and i think we already

02:25:02.700 made the caveat that women can absolutely take initiative in a in a feminine way hold on

02:25:11.020 well alvin sam donated 200 it's 100 woman's fault women decide intercourse therefore you bear the

02:25:20.460 responsibility you have a clock therefore you must choose wisely your virtue signaling is pathetic

02:25:27.980 you want autonomy yeah yeah yeah disagree yo alvin sam good to see you in the chat man much

02:25:34.540 appreciated i mean women do control access to sex so i mean i think a greater responsibility

02:25:40.540 falls on women when it comes to that but we are that's going back to our previous conversation

02:25:44.220 but do you want to respond yeah i i'd argue that because i had somebody try to like say that to me

02:25:48.940 on twitter and i would say you know that a lot of women maybe the way that they conduct themselves

02:25:53.740 in society not that i agree with it but could come from generations of trauma that came from men and

02:25:59.580 going back to women being the ones that um get to say whether you have access or not that wasn't the

02:26:07.900 case just in some countries that's not the case now and just not even that long ago that wasn't the case

02:26:14.300 um talking about like generational trauma and the effects that it has on women today when the man the

02:26:20.060 father was the one that chose the husband so you know women conducting themselves in society now

02:26:27.100 is from years and generations of trauma from men and you say we're the ones that picked our partner but

02:26:34.140 in some countries today and not even that long ago it was the father who picked the partner for

02:26:39.020 the daughter and you're saying that's generational trauma which they have to be with because they'll

02:26:44.140 say men are the gatekeepers to relationships and women are the gatekeepers to sex that's what their whole

02:26:49.500 ideology is so their point is yes men pick who they're going to be in a relationship with but

02:26:55.020 women are in control of just like casual intercourse wait so okay your argument is like are you

02:27:01.420 talking about arranged marriages yeah so like the argument that women have control over like so

02:27:09.100 we're the ones at fault right we're the ones at fault because we are the ones that have control over

02:27:13.180 whether we allow a man to have access to our body or not okay i mean if you want to talk about historical

02:27:18.300 mating practices we can but i mean arranged marriages have been predominantly done away with in the west

02:27:25.980 yeah so i don't know how to talk about what's going on in india right now i don't care don't

02:27:31.500 know it's irrelevant to the conversation at hand to be fair to those generational trauma though i don't

02:27:36.620 know to be fair to those arranged marriage societies they seem to have a better uh uh i guess like

02:27:44.460 their divorce rate is a lot better than they're also extremely misogynistic well they're very very

02:27:50.780 like they're like i'm not i'm not a feminist i don't like to use the word misogynist but those

02:27:55.740 countries are really bad we're talking genital mutilation we're talking really crazy okay so aside

02:28:03.580 from like some men who are extremely abusive the outlook in the western society to see a marriage as

02:28:11.820 just like a it's you like it until you don't like it until you're not happy and then you can get out

02:28:18.460 that's actually extremely destructive to your own personal growth the other person's personal growth

02:28:24.860 so in that in the society where it's not it's like extremely taboo to divorce so i mean it's it's

02:28:32.620 keeps it protects people from experiencing divorce in those countries because when you kind of put two

02:28:40.940 people in a pressure cooker you're not allowed to leave you are forced to figure this out now certain

02:28:46.380 men will take advantage of that and to those men i i like i do not like those men i mean i would choose

02:28:54.620 that they be punished i mean there needs to be something done about those men agreed but majority

02:28:59.820 speaking in those countries that's not the case it is the case majority actually i i mean i come from

02:29:06.140 one of those countries i live in i lived in morocco for my high school years and most of the families that

02:29:12.380 i met most of the couples that i met who were arranged marriages forced to be married initially

02:29:19.180 they were extremely like i've never even met this woman i got married to them but now it's like

02:29:26.140 i can't see my life without this person because they were forced to keep that one motorsports donated

02:29:32.140 two hundred dollars arranged marriages tend to last longer and report higher satisfaction so do not

02:29:39.100 knock it until you try it feminism has failed you the patriarchy stands ready to help choose wisely

02:29:46.540 and be better well but yeah i i totally agree it does have um there are higher satisfaction in

02:29:54.540 in arranged marriages now i'm not saying i'm a proponent of let's bring back the arranged marriage

02:30:00.300 but there is something to it like there is some there's an element in there that is important what is

02:30:05.820 that element it's the element of i cannot leave this you could have that without arrangement well

02:30:12.700 we don't have that we don't have those enforcement mechanisms in place right now

02:30:17.580 actually there are there are incentives to get divorced now so like if we had punishments if we

02:30:24.380 had uh negative maybe not punishments but negative effects there would be less likelihood of

02:30:29.180 people vying for or opting for divorce no yeah i agree i mean i think people definitely think

02:30:33.740 divorce is the easy way out exactly it's a worst nightmare yeah yeah me too having kids and then

02:30:39.100 getting divorced 100 so going back to your original statement though nick if you pull it up really quick

02:30:43.740 so your original state what statement was the truth is men don't want a soft feminine quiet woman

02:30:48.780 they want a bold competent dominant woman who will be feminine and submissive for him well

02:30:54.620 how can okay they want how can you both be bold competent and dominant but also be feminine and

02:31:06.460 submissive i think i do it i think i do it too i would you guys would categorize me as bold and all

02:31:11.660 that stuff but with my boyfriend i right he's right like i don't so these are just contradictory statements

02:31:17.100 you say they don't want a soft feminine quiet woman but they want one who will be feminine and

02:31:25.660 submissive for him so i'm a little confused i think because like i was saying like before like a lot of

02:31:33.900 men didn't agree with me but there were some men in the comments that were like yo like you're reading

02:31:38.380 my psychology like that's crazy like that you're speaking things that i think like and feel and i think

02:31:44.700 it goes back to what i was saying is cerebrally a man is gonna want is gonna think yeah i want a nice

02:31:51.020 soft feminine woman but there's something primal in him that you know your subconscious it doesn't

02:31:57.820 connect your primal subconscious isn't connected to your your conscious and your cerebral mind unless

02:32:03.980 you force it to be connected and a lot of men are living in like sexual like like backup because

02:32:11.260 they don't have those two things connected they don't really know what they want maybe they want

02:32:15.260 this for marriage but they want something else in the bedroom or something um so yeah well i mean the

02:32:22.620 the aspect of dominance that makes a man a man is like he he puts himself out there he is like

02:32:28.860 not extremely vocal but he's strong in his opinions and beliefs and he takes charge he takes leadership

02:32:34.700 um and we don't want that in a woman now i i will grant you like we want a competent woman we want

02:32:41.020 someone who is smart who's able to read a situation and know how to react how to respond how to pull

02:32:46.380 themselves away from something that's dangerous that's good like i'm not going to engage in

02:32:51.100 relationships with other men when i'm not interested in them uh uh romantically like that's protecting

02:32:57.660 themselves from uh men that seek to gain something from them even though they have no interest i love that

02:33:04.380 but that's competence it's not dominance i i there's something there's you wouldn't want

02:33:10.220 an alpha female that's the alpha of the other females what is an alpha yeah what does that what

02:33:14.860 does that even mean so two questions what does it mean to be an alpha female and how did you just

02:33:19.500 even come to the initial conclusion that men want this i felt it well how you feel how you feel

02:33:27.740 i've experienced it like i feel it i experience it like wait have so when you say you felt it you

02:33:33.500 mean men have been attracted to you there because okay so i'll throw back to like internet culture

02:33:40.300 2016 i was extremely extremely political i was in college back in 2016 during the election i was

02:33:45.740 extremely political and open about my my views my conservative views yeah and that was very

02:33:52.140 ruffled a lot of feathers like for people in my own peer group but there were men that were steadfast

02:33:59.980 obama lovers and you know trump is literally the end of the world and but i i still have them in

02:34:07.420 my dms to this day the lip lip dudes yeah well i don't think i don't think the fact that so maybe

02:34:13.420 simps well hold on this would but these are men these are like these are not like these are very

02:34:20.700 successful men like these are and it's something about the mere fact that i was willing to go into like

02:34:25.900 a college party and talk about my views and be what about the conservative men though

02:34:31.740 i mean i have no problem with them either no but you you said that in 2016 you were outspoken with

02:34:36.780 your conservative values online and all these liberal men were showing interest in you no liberal

02:34:43.260 men who are prop who are perhaps more feminine and they're seeking a dominant woman i mean possibly but

02:34:50.620 i had both i had both what i'm saying is that the things that they would tell me and the fact that

02:34:55.980 we're sitting here six years later and they're still in my dms telling me the same thing telling

02:35:00.300 you what that they're into you what do you mean what are they telling you yeah they'll take care of

02:35:04.380 me they're this text you know but is that because like how are let's make sure we're not attributing

02:35:10.540 things to things that aren't actually there they're into you because you're a dominant woman

02:35:15.740 i mean that's what they've said yeah they've they've told you yeah like they really respect

02:35:20.780 that i'm i am me unapologetically and i'm able to be myself unapologetically whether that goes with

02:35:28.540 society and what society tells you or not let me ask you a question do you think men lie to get laid

02:35:34.300 yes so if a woman for example like if if i was inclined to try to bed a woman and she was a boss

02:35:42.700 babe i don't think it would help my chances for me to be like listen i don't give a fuck about

02:35:48.380 your career i don't care about your ambition you think it's gonna hurt my chances of getting laid

02:35:54.860 so here's the thing you got to remember men will lie and they'll they'll gas you up oh you you want

02:36:01.260 to do xyz you're here's these things that are important to you they're going to uh cater to you

02:36:09.180 they're going to i'm trying to think of the adopt those um they're going to there's a specific term

02:36:15.180 for it but it's leaving my mind they're just essentially going to lie not guys have never

02:36:21.260 lied to you to get pussy no no and that's a possibility but at the end of the day here we

02:36:25.500 are six years later i mean and you're still hooked like i think i don't i haven't given it

02:36:30.940 it's a bit anecdotal it's a bit anecdotal i also think at the point that i think i believe overall

02:36:36.060 most men want a soft feminine all this about a woman but there is a healthy balance right because

02:36:42.060 a lot of people correlate a soft feminine woman to a doormat and which i think she's what she's

02:36:47.900 saying is you don't have to be a doormat to be a soft feminine woman because you can still have your

02:36:52.620 i think dominant is the word that's striking everybody out but like you can still be have

02:36:56.300 your opinions and know who you are and have your own thoughts i think that's the overall

02:37:02.140 point is yeah i don't think i would agree with that i just don't categorize that as dominant i

02:37:06.700 think i would say competent yeah like reserved and i'll tell you when i put out this tweet it was a

02:37:11.820 it was very random i did not expect this to blow up like it did like it was a very spur of the moment

02:37:18.060 just it's twitter like i'm just rambling the same shit because yeah so like maybe my articulation

02:37:24.220 wasn't fully like there but yeah it's it's an experience that i can't deny that i've had in my life

02:37:30.540 being an outspoken woman well i here's the thing right is is that any woman kind of almost regardless

02:37:38.140 of how she's presenting herself whether it's very feminine or even she's very masculine if she's an

02:37:44.780 attractive woman and even if she's not an attractive woman if she's even average women are inundated with

02:37:50.860 sexual options the the degree to which women have sexual optionality is comparative to men is

02:37:58.220 wild an average woman has the equivalent sexual optionality is essentially a male celebrity

02:38:07.820 um and so the issue there though is that you might confuse that sexual optionality or even romantic

02:38:16.540 optionality for the potential for long-term partnership and i would argue a man might be willing to

02:38:24.380 who was that the popcorn what was that is it spilled yeah okay well done hold on

02:38:34.140 that's a fucking 50 dkp minus what the fuck was that anyways um so okay uh what was i saying i forgot

02:38:45.260 whatever well i mean i've been in long term i've only been in long-term relationships i don't do casual

02:38:51.900 dating so i mean however the way i present myself has obviously been enough to secure long-term

02:38:58.300 partnership sure but i mean the and it's not clear to me if you are like do you consider yourself a

02:39:05.660 dominant woman not in my relationship but you're assertive yeah you're assertive dominant is the wrong

02:39:11.980 word i think yeah yeah that's what it is because i feel like i'm the same way but in my relationship i

02:39:15.660 do not talk to men that way right i also going back like i'm very traditional i want to cook for

02:39:21.980 my man i want to serve my man i want to clean for my i think something i've also talked to one of my

02:39:26.300 buddies about a lot is does uh does a woman respect men in her life so if a woman is going out of her

02:39:34.060 way to respect men then that's also super attractive so it's not like the men aren't respecting her but

02:39:41.100 there's like a difference to that knowing like i'm i'm going to treat this man with respect like i

02:39:46.220 i know that uh men are not men are uh i guess naturally dominant natural leaders i respect that

02:39:53.660 about them there's something about that that's different than me um and then i love when a man

02:39:59.420 like treats a woman differently like i'm not going to lay hands on a woman um i guess it depends on the

02:40:05.260 scenario like if she comes at me with a knife then maybe i have to do something about it but uh i'm

02:40:10.220 going to treat a woman differently than i would a man so there is that difference let's get through

02:40:14.940 the tweets yeah there's more there's more i think there's there's more oh gosh but wait there's more

02:40:22.540 i did was not expecting you guys really do you want to read it here on something here all right

02:40:27.660 good thing my twitter got banned in 2016 but uh all right men won't break up with you they'll just

02:40:32.540 turn extremely toxic women won't break up with you they'll just find someone else agree

02:40:36.700 you interesting that's coming from long term you know i'm expecting okay go ahead i love masculinity

02:40:47.580 and i love men but i will never blame women for the state of society we should all acknowledge

02:40:51.820 the need to do better on both sides but it doesn't matter at the end of the day men lead and women

02:40:56.220 follow yes but you'll never blame women i will sit here and have a conversation one-on-one with

02:41:04.060 somebody and tell her the the woes of what she's doing for society but it's ultimately at the end

02:41:10.140 of the day it's men's fault yeah i and i'm not a feminist i'm i love men i love when i love men and

02:41:16.300 i respect women well let me ask you this so you're conservative right so and i'm not advocating that we

02:41:22.620 necessarily do this but it would be the case for example if and again i'm not advocating for this

02:41:29.180 if we were to if we were to pull back women's ability to vote well conservative parties would

02:41:42.460 start winning elections would you be in favor of that yeah i think majority of women think

02:41:49.980 emotionally and emotions don't have a place in governing society so so you want to repeal the 19th

02:41:57.420 i i i personally don't because i i i as an individual i like the way i vote i think i vote

02:42:03.740 good for society so let's let's say there's a 40 year old let's say there's a 40 year old man who's

02:42:09.340 who's very well versed in politics he has a deep understanding of various political issues he researches

02:42:16.060 uh various you know the the positions of uh his local politicians his state politicians and his federal

02:42:23.580 politicians he has he's he's smart he's well researched um if you want men to lead how can we

02:42:32.060 lead if an 18 year old woman who has no knowledge of politics can essentially neutralize i agree that

02:42:39.980 40 year old man's vote i agree by voting for whatever the opposite of whatever he votes i agree

02:42:46.300 why is it any different as an 18 year old woman versus 18 year old man i feel like both of them will

02:42:50.540 have the same men are more likely like even at 18 years old to like not vote i don't know what

02:42:57.820 like the wrong no no no or not not vote in ways that are not like like i said women are just more

02:43:03.900 emotional they're more likely to vote for like social welfare things that are maybe bad for the economy

02:43:09.740 um i just i don't know what 18 year old boys you were hanging out around but the 18 year old boys i was

02:43:14.540 around i wouldn't want them voting on these issues either they were not doing their due diligence not

02:43:21.100 saying that women were no i mean at the end of the day the voting age should be like 25 exactly i don't

02:43:26.060 think this should be a gendered argument i think this is an argument over the voting age is too young

02:43:30.380 if anything but then it's like pull up the tweet again pull up the tweet again i do think we should

02:43:33.660 have that right so it's okay at the end of the day men lead and women follow well one issue that i do see

02:43:41.180 is that and this is kind of even within the realm of relationships but in order to be a leader there

02:43:48.860 has to be people who are willing to follow you because if everybody's just mutinous not willing

02:43:55.340 to follow then you can't lead like in the dance if somebody's the leader they have to follow if you're

02:44:01.100 both trying to lead it's fucked up and so it occurs to me that even women will say they want a leader

02:44:08.140 leader but they're not prepared to follow i think maybe the person they're following isn't

02:44:14.220 respectable enough well no because with feminism it's put it's like implanted this other programming

02:44:20.700 of like yeah don't listen to men right men are evil we're at an extreme at this point in society

02:44:29.100 unfortunately like if i'm trying to think of an example here but like i remember i was dating this

02:44:34.380 girl a long time ago and um i was like uh i was sick or something and i've been dating her for

02:44:41.100 months and i was like hey um can you make me some food or something politely but i was like hey i'm

02:44:47.900 i'm not feeling good can you go make me some food even even when i was sick and she's like

02:44:52.460 kind of like the feminist gears were turning like should i do this labor for my boyfriend like he's asked

02:45:00.620 and like that's that's how it is a lot of time perhaps perhaps i don't know but that is not a

02:45:09.580 woman that is willing to serve her man that is not yeah i mean if she was a woman willing to serve

02:45:16.860 her man she would have cooked for him because he was without asking beforehand though you can tell

02:45:22.620 what kind of girl wouldn't serve you wouldn't do things for you like do you like to cook and clean

02:45:25.900 her answer is i'm not a slave you already know right then and there she's not that type of girl

02:45:29.500 how would your relationship this was years ago before i so before you know all this you know

02:45:34.220 before i learned things yes learn the ways learn the ways of the monks all right is there another

02:45:42.540 tweet tweet all right we have some chats here we have kiara can you read this one

02:45:50.140 read your bible if you have questions about how to be a good wife or how to be a good husband

02:45:54.940 i recommend referring to how do you pronounce that ephesians ephesians i don't want to do it wrong

02:45:59.260 ephesians 5 21 to 33 the cool thing about god is he gave us all the answers to our problems

02:46:05.180 amen thank you read your bible appreciate it and then we have jordan roy is royale thank you man

02:46:10.700 appreciate it i kind of get what she is saying but at the same time this logic is the same logic of

02:46:15.020 having an only fans and claiming to be a christian stop the delulu also hi kitty hi laura w mason crisis

02:46:21.900 king crisis king indeed boom kind of gets what i'm saying there you go there you go let me get into

02:46:28.300 some more of my pre-show notes here so we have let's see uh wait hold on oh finishing off with you

02:46:38.700 it's angela right maya but oh on your twitter your twitter angelina angelina okay you said in your

02:46:46.220 twitter bio it says gifted divine protection for my honest intention yes what's that what's that mean

02:46:52.460 i'm a very spiritual person and i believe that if you go about your life conducting yourself with

02:46:58.700 honest intentions you know like kind of like i was saying before you're you're molding your sub you're

02:47:04.460 forming your subconscious and your conscious into one so that you're not driven by egotistical

02:47:08.700 you know uh drives and x y and z you live your life in an honest way honest with yourself honest with

02:47:15.500 say god or ether or prime creator or whoever it is that you you know sure whatever if you live yourself

02:47:23.180 honestly you know because there's a lot of people that maybe go back here and you know oh well let me

02:47:29.660 steal something and oh it's not gonna do any yeah right good faith and and i have a supreme you know

02:47:38.220 belief that my honest intention in my life in the way that i conduct my life provides me

02:47:43.820 divine protection you also mentioned something about astrology who here believes in astrology show of

02:47:48.220 hands any astrology people it's fun but i don't astrology astrology astrology astrology but not like

02:47:54.620 zodiac signs isn't that what astrology is it goes deeper than that she's talking about the birth charts

02:48:00.300 and all that stuff you also said you have a gangster bloodline what does that mean my dad was in the

02:48:04.860 mafia are you italian no i'm mexican oh the mexican mafia are you supposed to say that he passed away

02:48:14.620 when i was a baby oh okay yeah so you have a gangster bloodline it is what it is you put you put in

02:48:19.820 your twitter bio so yeah it is it is what it is mob wives the what mob lives mob i guess that's

02:48:26.540 they brag about their husbands yeah once they go to jail once they're always like it's like once you

02:48:31.500 are in a gang and you go to jail once you are always going to be categorized as a gang member as a

02:48:34.860 mafia member so it doesn't really matter if you're a part of that it's the things you do will get you in

02:48:39.100 trouble word okay cool are you a gangster though not anymore anymore so wait you were he's risen

02:48:49.100 you were a gangster i was influenced a little bit in my younger days like did you

02:48:55.820 no i didn't know to do no time my i she didn't do no time

02:49:01.340 no time no but i was she pleaded out i was really young you know were you in a gang no no were you

02:49:08.860 associated affiliated i was affiliated yeah with which oh i'm not gonna go into that but uh what

02:49:15.180 is what are like uh i i was dating somebody and um yeah he ended up going to prison for life at 16

02:49:26.140 and like so yeah it's something that i hold california because if you that's gonna get appealed

02:49:31.980 soon because they've already claimed that minors cannot be sentenced to life so soon he might be

02:49:35.900 coming out i don't know because it might not over trump the gang charge like the fact that it's

02:49:40.300 gang related yeah but they've they've made it in supreme court they've overruled it wait what was

02:49:44.380 different i think in the last year uh yeah we won't we don't need to get into it you can't lock away

02:49:48.940 a child for life it's a minor yeah he got charged as an adult yeah that's what they're they're revoking

02:49:53.740 that right oh we have we have some new pre-show notes here we're switching gears over here to alexandra

02:49:59.820 uh so uh you said in your pre-show notes you wrote when i started dating my now fiance he was

02:50:05.820 considered homeless when we met and his fans would message me not to date him but then we wait his

02:50:11.820 fans said not to date him yeah he does have fans still yes uh but then when we started doing only

02:50:17.580 fans together the week we started dating and you said i thought it was okay if your man is managing

02:50:22.220 it but i don't like doing only fans oh you don't like doing no okay that's what you wrote

02:50:26.620 i don't even remember what i wrote honestly oh okay um i what what

02:50:34.940 what kiko wants the smoke from i don't want everybody that's worse than i thought definitely

02:50:41.740 okay that's worse than i thought all right thanks kiko go ahead go ahead okay

02:50:48.460 what was your question well you said you don't like doing only fans um i well no i do i don't know

02:50:53.420 how to answer that honestly it was his idea i was right no no no i don't want to say okay you should

02:50:59.340 never bring up your own man never talk about your partner no i don't want i don't want to say anything

02:51:04.300 about that okay you said but you said you guys stopped doing it because you want to have we did

02:51:10.860 stop oh so you don't do it anymore we we i don't know what we are doing honestly i think we are doing

02:51:16.540 it no but you said we oh well at some point maybe you're starting it back up again you're back up okay

02:51:22.460 with it okay you said uh also in your pre-show notes a month after proposing he got a happy ending

02:51:30.540 i don't want to talk about this no but these were provided yeah okay like hey is there anything you

02:51:35.980 want to talk about during the show so i'm not like exposing you here or anything this is just what you

02:51:40.940 wrote okay i mean so do you do you want to talk about it anymore i changed my mind is that okay

02:51:49.020 okay um and i don't want to talk about the other thing either

02:51:54.140 okay i'll talk about what you said the first thing that you said

02:51:58.300 uh what was the first thing um about us doing only fans and him being homeless i'll talk about that

02:52:05.820 oh well i was moving i was moving on if you i'm not gonna if you don't want to talk about the other

02:52:09.820 things that's fine just do know i'm not like ambushing you with this like you literally provided

02:52:17.100 this in in response to me asking if there's anything on the show you want to talk about

02:52:20.780 me to talk about that so okay so i told him i wouldn't and i and i well i did say i would talk

02:52:28.380 about that but he doesn't want me to so i have to respect that i'm not i'm not gonna push it but um

02:52:33.980 and then the other stuff you also said the government is trying to break apart the family unit

02:52:38.540 yeah i do i do think that i think would you care to elaborate well i'm giving you a okay okay okay

02:52:48.620 i think the government is trying to break apart the family unit because um with the transgender stuff

02:52:55.820 and all that that's literally them pushing that upon like kids and everyone wait you're not okay with

02:53:02.940 the government like espousing transgenderism no they're pushing that yeah okay okay i think i think

02:53:09.420 they're pushing that on to like children yeah and would you would you say that they're putting

02:53:15.100 transgender content in into the interwebs what does that mean interwebs internet

02:53:21.740 yeah they are okay and it's destroying society it's a negative on society yes it's destroying

02:53:29.180 society it's breaking apart yeah it's breaking apart families i get being against the whole trans and

02:53:34.540 kids stuff yeah we're gonna move no no no no we're gonna i it's i don't know what you're about to say

02:53:41.420 it's coming from tell me what like without saying what you're gonna say tell me what you're

02:53:46.380 um are you gonna you can't say too much are you gonna target like a specific group no i'm not

02:53:54.060 gonna target anyone i'm just saying i think it's coming from the government okay it's coming from

02:53:57.900 the government i think that so i'm tying it back into the only fans content if you think that pushing

02:54:04.540 that agenda is uh is a net negative for society and would you agree that having uh only fans content

02:54:14.140 in society as a net negative yeah i think so why why are you any better than the government

02:54:21.260 i'm not saying i am so it seems like quite the hypocrisy if so why would you not want to vote

02:54:29.900 for somebody just like who's practicing things like you not saying that uh that people in government

02:54:35.900 have only fans but they they hold those same i guess um morals and beliefs that's that's true

02:54:44.460 yeah i i guess that's just something i would consider i think i wouldn't say i like doing only fans

02:54:49.980 either i but i do yeah i mean we stopped doing it for that reason because i wanted to be better not to

02:54:55.740 do i guess if you want to be a net positive society i would i would genuinely consider uh the the effect

02:55:02.780 you're having on people um if you want well we've already whatever we we i don't like lingering on

02:55:08.860 the porn bad thing for too long we beat it to death um you wanted to talk about pregnancy me or was it

02:55:16.940 avery it might have been avery oh it was avery you said you wanted to talk about pregnancy yeah

02:55:26.700 i've just okay i've just prompted you what do you want to like i will i want to get pregnant and i

02:55:31.740 have like i like pregnancy you want to get pregnant like it is a kink i do too actually

02:55:39.100 you do yes oh my god i actually i actually just got a positive pregnancy test yesterday

02:55:45.660 congratulations wait you're having your baby yes thank you holy that scuffed

02:55:51.500 what i'm not no don't worry about it it's the camera angles don't worry about it

02:55:56.060 okay but i agree with you on that you said that that you that you wanted like yeah i like think

02:56:01.100 i would look good pregnant me too like i want like a bunch of kids so having kids is more than

02:56:07.020 wanting to be pregnant and thinking you're going to look pregnant how about how do you feel about

02:56:10.700 raising a toddler and having a baby like how do you feel about those can't go to the club no more

02:56:16.060 oh no more i have five younger siblings so i think i would be a great mom not right now

02:56:21.340 not right now you said 19 you did say before that you wanted to be pregnant now well i didn't say

02:56:26.700 now i want to be a baby mama or a wife first or you just want to be pregnant i don't know oh and

02:56:33.100 hell no that's even worse you gotta have a you gotta have a man you gotta get the girl yeah

02:56:41.340 her fake porn name is avery jenner that's her real name jenner's not your last name is it actually

02:56:48.220 your real ass yeah that's fucking bullshit i don't buy it she's literally armenian they're

02:56:53.100 not armenian the jenners are not armenian at all all armenians have the last name jenner

02:56:57.660 chris jenner is white and bruce jenner is white the kardashians are armenian from their father

02:57:03.580 and kendall are not armenian yeah she's right your middle name is jenner yeah

02:57:08.540 anyways you're turning yourself into a statistic right now okay you started off already with being

02:57:12.780 a teenager in of which is like whatever we can move past it but then being like i want to

02:57:17.020 possibly be a baby mama and i can't wait to be pregnant because i'm going to look so hot

02:57:20.540 did baby mama come out of my mouth she asked you they asked you you said you didn't care i did not

02:57:25.340 say yeah i just said i want to eventually be pregnant and i don't think it's bad if i'm

02:57:28.700 pregnant before i'm a wife or married that's what i'm saying though but you're turning yourself

02:57:32.140 into like all these things that you have there's people that get pregnant before they're married

02:57:36.220 no i think it's admirable it's admirable that she wants to have children she wants a teen

02:57:40.780 pregnancy she wants a teen pregnancy that's who is going to help her that's that's i admire that you

02:57:48.220 want to have children i think that's really important and beautiful her first 10 words that

02:57:52.940 came out of her mouth was nothing about having children it was about i want to be pregnant yeah

02:57:55.980 that's the thing that she was saying she just wants she's yeah she said she's a geek for being

02:57:59.980 pregnant she never said i can't wait to have children to raise my own kids she said i want to be

02:58:03.260 pregnant she wants what is that called yeah like it sounds like surrogacy is more up your alley but

02:58:10.380 that's no it's not admirable to say to have this mindset at this age wow it's crazy well biologically

02:58:16.140 you're supposed to have that bad i don't i don't know if she becomes a statistic and she's a single

02:58:21.420 mom and she's complaining like all the girls online it's more it's deeper though there's it's i admire

02:58:27.660 because you have a inherent feminine characteristic of wanting to have children and being pregnant and

02:58:33.020 everything and that's admirable but i definitely think you should understand a society a little

02:58:38.460 bit more and understand a child psychology a little bit more and understand how important

02:58:43.100 it is to have you know what the patriarchy approves start pumping out babies 19 perfect i can't if she

02:58:49.660 would have said i can't wait to be a mother i can't wait to have my kids i would have not my zip she said

02:58:55.100 i cannot wait to be pregnant i have a pregnancy kink yeah i want to be pregnant don't don't bring a baby

02:59:01.020 into the world unless i can't wait to be a mother unless you're ready to write biologically you're

02:59:06.460 supposed to have kids like that's still completely different than what is 7 16 it's different than a

02:59:10.700 pregnancy wait is it a kink though for a woman to have a strong desire to want to get pregnant and not

02:59:16.620 have the kids after she said she said she wants to have a bunch of kids it's like a frodean slip

02:59:23.260 when you say something like that and you're not right but what's worse a 19 year old wanting to

02:59:28.380 have kids and get pregnant or the 19 year old or not even that but just the women the woman who says

02:59:35.260 well i want to wait till i'm in my late 30s to get pregnant whatever like the woman who who delays

02:59:41.980 her so what's worse a 19 year old who's doing only fans who can't wait to be pregnant or a woman who

02:59:45.740 waits till she's stable and ready to have children hmm that's a lot of girls can't even handle the

02:59:50.380 fact of having kids look at all these girls now they are young moms and can't handle it yeah like

02:59:54.300 don't everyone looks at kylie jenner with two kids and it's like oh my god i can do that i can't wait

02:59:58.060 she's got money she's not raising her own kids that's what i'm trying to point at it's nothing

03:00:01.980 wrong with i don't know i can't wait to be a mother either she's always

03:00:04.460 she's ready to be a mom a lot of your words have power behind them so the way that you

03:00:13.820 say things like realize that that wait hold on are you on birth control though no wait coming

03:00:19.740 around the table who's on birth control no i have an iud no no no no but i'm not doing anything

03:00:28.140 sexual okay well birth control is terrible for you i'm not saying it's a good thing but i'm

03:00:34.140 definitely on it i want to interesting have a protection not just for my boyfriend but for any

03:00:40.300 any possibilities out there control actually like it's different if you're on it it you're attracted

03:00:46.540 to different types of men i've heard of that because it's changing your chemical imbalance

03:00:51.820 balance do you have the copper one though balance no oh nope i have the hormonal one but then

03:00:56.460 chase was saying that since i'm on birth control i would want more feminine men and da da da i was

03:01:01.020 basically only dating women before i got on birth control and now i date a pretty masculine hyper

03:01:05.820 masculine man now that i'm on birth control because it thinks you're pregnant when you're on birth control

03:01:09.820 your body thinks you're pregnant so it wants a more sub like a like a beta man beta man chase said

03:01:16.620 the opposite it wants a guy that takes care of you whereas if you're not on birth control you want

03:01:22.220 a masculine man man interesting like an asshole pretty much yeah there you go it's true i don't

03:01:28.220 know if it's like specific y'all are like you said you were so attracted to i guess just like medically

03:01:35.660 speaking right there are different responses to everything now so for there's there are different

03:01:41.500 responses to like any drug like certain people are non-responders and certain people are responders

03:01:46.700 so i wouldn't say that every single woman who goes on hormones is going to have that effect i would

03:01:52.140 say they probably they've done studies that have found that women generally speaking women who on

03:01:57.580 hormones are going to have this like they're going to be attracted to different types of men

03:02:03.180 than if they were off hormones now maybe you're just a non-responder not in the way that like the

03:02:08.060 drug doesn't work but maybe you're just a non-responder in that way that symptom doesn't

03:02:12.220 still consider that a response though the opposite yeah but it makes sense like both ways because i

03:02:17.900 also like in with medication usually i'm not the type to be like oh yeah i just took like an anti-anxiety

03:02:23.420 i feel no anxiety or i just took a pain med i feel no pain like medicine doesn't really ever i don't

03:02:28.060 really feel effects of medicine like that like yeah certain people are just uh not sensitive to

03:02:33.500 certain things yeah so i mean it makes sense but yeah but i do i do understand why like that

03:02:38.620 conversation and i don't think birth control is a good thing i'm i'm sure has many negatives

03:02:43.100 my only tidbit with it is though i don't like too much talk about negatives on birth control when we

03:02:48.380 already have a push for more sexually advanced people so if in society right now sex and casual

03:02:54.860 sex is already getting pushed so much i don't want birth control being bad to be getting pushed at the

03:02:59.980 same time because i you see how that can be a recipe yeah for disaster if everyone's getting

03:03:04.620 influenced to be absolutely hypersexual but then also getting influenced to not protect themselves

03:03:09.100 because they're also not saying condoms yeah they're just saying no birth control

03:03:12.220 you know birth control actually makes you infertile no in some cases but that's very rare

03:03:18.620 but i don't i don't know if you take it for like a long time yeah yeah i took it for six years and

03:03:24.860 it fucks you up i thought you said you did that too no no i'm just saying yeah because i had

03:03:29.740 miscarriages before i'm sorry so so it does make you infer it can definitely mess with your fertility

03:03:34.300 but i don't age messes with your fertility so no you should see fertility rates over time even

03:03:39.900 it's really bad wait how do you know if you're fertile or just no just in general because we're

03:03:44.700 it's not just birth control it's environmental factors it's the microplastics it's the estrogen in

03:03:49.420 the non-stick wear pan it's everything in general men and women fertility rates are

03:03:54.860 plummeting damn like overpopulated just kidding i'm sorry i feel bad for everybody

03:04:02.060 i feel deeply for anybody who struggles with infertility that's a serious issue but yeah i

03:04:07.740 think um it is logically consistent for those who are more traditional to not want birth or push

03:04:14.380 against birth control i think it's logically consistent for those who are more liberal and

03:04:18.620 more like liberal with their sexual views to push birth control that makes sense and for people who

03:04:23.740 kind of crisscross those uh yeah i i just think they're logically inconsistent here we have a tts

03:04:29.260 nate hey brian first time tts question for mason would you f the oldest woman in the world

03:04:33.820 or the hottest trans woman in the world and why yeah i'm not going to engage with that question no you

03:04:39.100 can't no no that's respectable no that's what i think uh christian would have responded really good

03:04:45.340 setup for for kiko here because that's i can already tell from the past few hours how he communicates

03:04:50.540 that his response regardless won't irritate me i don't engage with um vulgar questions it's it's

03:04:58.540 like maybe maybe one day down the road i would engage with that question with my wife but i don't

03:05:04.380 like i don't put my sexuality out there for just anybody respect yeah that's respectful even if

03:05:12.140 it's like sorry nate thank you nate for the tta right now i would pick the hottest trans or the

03:05:18.220 hottest oldest woman whatever the question would be i could just tell that the way he phrases it

03:05:23.340 is respectable it's all about communication and how you use your words i'll answer the question

03:05:29.020 go for it i'll answer the question little oldest woman why why got that diaper on

03:05:34.700 why are we why are we the crepe keeper huh why because uh look i'm straight you're straight i'm

03:05:46.380 straight and it would not be straight yeah it would make you gay it would not be straight to have sex

03:05:55.580 with the hottest trans woman in the world okay it would be or wouldn't be it would make him gay to

03:06:04.060 sleep with the trans it would not be straight to do that okay would you rather sleep with the megan

03:06:09.340 fox or hulk hogan is that no i was gonna say would you rather sleep with the hottest trans woman in the

03:06:14.140 world or a um stud like a hyper or actually sorry would you rather no no i got it i got it i got the

03:06:22.620 question would you rather sleep with the hottest trans woman in the world or the hottest trans

03:06:27.100 man in the world that man needs to be a woman though so he's a woman that's the question they

03:06:32.220 present themselves as a man you know they are everything and a man pussy still there no they're

03:06:37.180 both they're both fully transitioned it's a fully transitioned woman like transgender woman

03:06:41.660 fully transitioned male is it like because you're saying it's gay for them to be straight can they give

03:06:46.620 them a that's fine that's a that's almost that's more that's a hypothetical that's a hypothetical

03:06:51.260 that you guys love to play if they how do i i but bro hold on so you're saying i have to have

03:06:57.820 maybe you're putting it in i don't know you could be a top you could be top yeah it's a peen so i can't

03:07:03.260 have you said to have sex no it's reverse the transgender surgery you take the peen and they put

03:07:09.340 it in no but she's saying trans man or how does trans woman yeah i can't have sex yeah i can't have

03:07:16.460 sex with that so you're going to do the transmit the trans no but you're the trans you're giving

03:07:20.700 me you're giving me like it's a hypothetical yeah but you can't have sex if they have a penis yeah

03:07:26.940 i'm kind of fear that if you have like if you surgically give them a penis that's not even

03:07:32.780 yes it is it has nothing to do so here's the no the the fair question is it's a trans woman who

03:07:38.620 hasn't had bottom surgery and a trans man who hasn't had okay sure if that's what you want to do yes

03:07:43.180 if i if i had to pick in this catastrophic hypothetical scenario yeah i'd pick the trans

03:07:49.740 man okay between over the trans woman uh that's a funny image in my head but thank you

03:07:55.580 i mean it's still it's technically still straight well i actually hold on i actually don't think it's

03:08:01.900 straight but like of the two it's because in my opinion when that question gets phrased i'm envisioning

03:08:07.580 a fully transitioned transgender woman like i'm envisioning nakita dragon like down top the bottom

03:08:13.900 so i just don't see how sleeping with someone who looks like nakita dragon is gayer than sleeping with

03:08:18.780 someone who looks like young ma like why would you you're choosing to sleep with that woman because

03:08:24.380 she has feminine attributes if you're choosing to sleep with young ma you're choosing to sleep with

03:08:27.820 her she looks like a dude just say it kiko say what just say that you are never mind yeah what i'm

03:08:35.420 trans we know i'm not trans no that's not what i was going to say that's not what i was going to

03:08:38.780 say um tay does have to leave here she let us know before the show that she's she does have to leave

03:08:45.740 i want you know maybe there can be a reconciliation here i would like you guys to exchange some final

03:08:50.940 words here can i say something before tay leaves i get it i get it being mad at me i've talked my

03:08:56.060 shit i feel like you've talked your shit honestly if i'm being real i was doing mostly

03:08:59.420 shit for laughs that's why i am sitting up here laughing because i don't care this is not that deep

03:09:03.260 to me okay and like i said in the beginning i do agree with a lot of things you say i think

03:09:07.420 you're a very smart bright grown woman not young grown woman and i do agree with a lot of things

03:09:12.460 you say we do disagree on some stuff how we phrase things or candace but i i agree with you on a lot

03:09:17.900 of things and i have really nothing against you like i'm that's why i'm like laughing and giggling

03:09:23.420 because i don't care like it's not that deep to me okay so i'm glad you said that you did it for

03:09:27.580 a show i respect that a lot thank you you're welcome oh that's it i thought you guys were

03:09:32.700 gonna have another no if she wants to say anything she can go for it i've got my word out i have no

03:09:35.580 beef with her as long as somebody can apologize and be grown about it there's no there's no beef

03:09:39.180 oh okay i'm cool i'm not gonna do anything i'm cool let it go after how did how did you feel about

03:09:43.100 her before the apology though what do you mean i didn't care for the stuff she did but like i said

03:09:49.180 she said she apologized i gotta let it go quit being a freaking instigator so i'll shake your

03:09:52.940 hand because i'm gonna be out of here oh look at that thank you so much look at that all right

03:09:56.140 there we go there we go thank you hey thank you for coming let's go oh right uh actually wait

03:10:04.620 do we have uh i think maddie go ahead you take the seat maddie's joining us folks at the panel

03:10:11.260 here we are getting into some more pre-show notes here what's what's up okay i gotta go soon

03:10:16.860 too no you don't shut up i gotta wait can can i have you scoot the mic that way and then

03:10:22.540 straighten it up my bad all right cool um oh we were going i think i was asking you is there

03:10:27.660 anything anybody here disagrees with anything else she we pulled up the tweets but anything

03:10:34.060 anything anything this is so much it's hard like to get where to start anything anything

03:10:42.940 anything anything that women are responsible for our current sex culture

03:10:47.660 we already talked about it kind of all right guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow

03:10:55.500 in a prime sub if you have one drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one also

03:11:01.020 follow the prime sub and follow if you have one there you go okay fine how about i just throw out

03:11:06.380 a couple things and then if you any of you want to bite actually wait really quick going around the

03:11:11.020 table are your parents still together yes oh that's a hard question for me to answer

03:11:16.140 what's our next no minor my father passed away when i was 18 months old sorry to hear that no no no

03:11:25.820 dad's dead yes no mother's passed

03:11:31.900 okay all right all right i'm gonna throw out some potential hot takes here

03:11:36.860 any woman can be a slut very few men can be a slut any bites what does that mean any bites it means

03:11:49.580 anyone can be a slut no any any woman can be a slut very few men can be a slut he's saying that women

03:11:56.380 have easier access to sex than men do so they can make well yeah because well no it's like a promiscuous

03:12:01.980 woman is more slutty than a promiscuous man or like there's less give for a woman like her her her

03:12:09.180 like leash is way shorter in terms of getting to that point of slut rather than a man

03:12:15.500 yeah

03:12:18.700 no bites no bites okay how about women don't need game or riz you just have to show up facts

03:12:25.660 i agree yeah not for easy like not for a high value man not for what a higher grade a higher

03:12:32.940 value man yeah you need game or riz well i think well i think not being a doormat having

03:12:38.460 intelligence and that's not game or riz there's highly intelligent men who have no game or riz okay

03:12:43.660 well i my like my love language is very like uh teasing and like flirtatious so like i would

03:12:49.580 consider that my like game or riz but it's not like oh baby like let me slide in them dms

03:12:55.420 it's more of just how i flirt do you think being able to banter while perhaps for some men could

03:13:03.900 be a pro do you think it's high on the totem pole of what men really care about in a either a short-term

03:13:10.140 casual encounter or a long-term relationship no but i do believe that men you know you might not

03:13:17.820 agree with this but i think some of the best relationships and the best long-term relationships

03:13:22.620 last when you guys are actually friends first rather than a man and a woman coming together

03:13:28.780 in a relationship in these like traditional senses that we think of relationships i think

03:13:33.340 it's actually more compatible when you guys are friends so if there is that kind of friendly banter

03:13:38.620 then possibly not cerebrally he'll think that like that's high on the totem pole but when you actually get

03:13:45.900 into you know the relationship and stuff i think stuff like that will help him stay longer rather

03:13:51.580 than just being like a doormat that's just sitting there on the couch and not like saying anything

03:13:56.300 or adding to any kind of conversation

03:14:03.180 what okay uh okay cool word

03:14:10.140 to shizzle no how about this nobody wants to bite okay how about this i feel like being able to carry

03:14:15.660 a conversation as a woman is kind of having riz because sitting there and just being a little trophy is

03:14:21.500 like sure you could do that but i feel like that's not uh long term or sustainable how about this only

03:14:30.140 traditional women deserve traditional treatment

03:14:35.260 i think society and reality is a little bit more nuanced than that but i mean at the end of the day

03:14:40.700 yeah i mean if you're a man and you have traditional values then why would you treat a woman that's not

03:14:46.220 traditional with traditional values okay like for example for example say a woman does only fans

03:14:57.580 but she wants a guy to pay for first dates now i do actually think that even if a girl does do only

03:15:04.140 fans there's so many simps out there and men are so ingrained to behave in this way that they're gonna

03:15:11.580 get they're gonna get it anyways but if we're just having a analysis of this i don't think women who

03:15:17.900 do only fans are deserving of the chivalrous treatment because they're engaged in sex work

03:15:24.220 so we have three girls who do only fans here do you guys care to weigh in on that yeah i completely

03:15:29.420 disagree just because you do only fans doesn't mean that the guy shouldn't pay for the first date

03:15:35.100 like and only fans like i mean you don't have to be having like so completely unrelated yeah

03:15:41.900 it's a hundred percent related so just because i do only fans means we should split the bill like

03:15:47.580 that's not right i'll answer that a man should pay either way yeah even even if she's a prostitute

03:15:53.740 it's still a woman even if she's a stripper or a prostitute because they're a man so that's their job

03:15:59.180 they they pay so but is she a woman well why are you with her i mean hold on let me let me rephrase

03:16:05.820 so what you're saying is it's because he's a man so he should be a gentleman but who is deserving of

03:16:12.540 gentlemanly treatment wouldn't you say it's ladies what if she's not a lady doesn't mean you're not a

03:16:18.620 lady yes if you're no no no hold on why are you going on if you're engaged in if you're engaged in sex

03:16:25.580 work you're not a lady says the patriarchy right here says tradition says tradition well that's

03:16:35.820 your opinion no no it's not mine is not an opinion it is historical and i wouldn't want to be with a

03:16:40.940 man like you i wouldn't i wouldn't be on a date with a man like you you don't want a traditional

03:16:44.220 man that's fine well that's not yeah i guess apparently no they do they do want traditional

03:16:50.860 men as they say i mean they still want traditional men mixed opinions of like or like whatever

03:16:57.180 traditional not traditional like you don't have to be like strictly one or the other like right but

03:17:01.980 don't you think doing sex work is pretty far down the road into being non-traditional like it's okay if

03:17:09.340 the girl like maybe she has i'm trying to think of like a slight way i mean in which a woman could be

03:17:14.940 not traditional maybe she's a little tatted up or yeah maybe she has a tattoo she hasn't wanted to

03:17:21.020 like base my relationships based on if i'm traditional or if he's traditional or whatever

03:17:25.740 but so look okay i've never even thought of like that like at all but you said you would object to

03:17:31.100 a guy not paying for the first date correct correct you want a guy to pay for the first date absolutely

03:17:35.500 if the guy on the date said hey let's split would there not be a second date no there would not

03:17:41.180 what about for you do you want guys to pay for first dates that's fine what do you mean you're not

03:17:46.060 sure um i'm like maybe i really i don't know if he didn't pay for the first date have you been on a

03:17:54.220 yeah let's say a guy let's say a guy who you fancy yeah i have and they've always paid okay would you if

03:18:02.700 the guy put yourself back into those scenarios if the guy the waiter comes and he's like hey uh two checks

03:18:09.100 please you wouldn't feel a little bit cringed out why why would you be cringed out because i why

03:18:16.220 would i be on a date with like a broke man like what if he's not what if he's not broke

03:18:22.780 man should be able to provide and a woman shouldn't be a sex worker agreed i'm not having

03:18:27.580 okay then i guess we're not a perfect no but sex worker is a sort of all-encompassing sort of term

03:18:33.020 here how about this you're selling your sexuality essentially your digital prostitutes selling sex

03:18:39.820 look okay fine i'll just rephrase it i'll rephrase it then a lady shouldn't be on only fans with nude

03:18:45.900 content okay well i probably won't be on a date with you yeah but you're saying a guy should be a

03:18:53.660 provider and will provide you're saying a guy should be a provider why if if that's okay for you to say

03:18:59.900 why is it wrong for us to say it's not women shouldn't be that's your posting nude photographs

03:19:04.860 of themselves on the internet for four dollars a month like i don't well i don't agree but like

03:19:08.620 that's your opinion i think that's not just my opinion well whatever it is being traditional

03:19:13.580 there's like an agreed upon sense of what that is i know but a lot of guys would um pay for the first

03:19:21.260 date and if they didn't it would be cringe that's what you said right yeah okay would there be a

03:19:26.700 second date if the guy if i really like them maybe yeah what if it was a medium amount of

03:19:31.820 like medium um maybe not probably not okay and what about you who should pay the man the man of course

03:19:43.020 well hold on but why is it okay for you guys to say well men should do x well if they but i can't say

03:19:49.660 women shouldn't do x um if i if i'm with a guy and he says he doesn't want me to do only fans then i

03:19:55.740 completely would i would not do it i'd be all done with it okay but my point is i'm assuming you're

03:20:01.580 not going to let a guy on the first date or before you even meet him call those kind of shots are you

03:20:06.460 well if i was single i wouldn't be doing only fans okay that's another conversation then but so let me

03:20:12.860 ask you you guys a question then so why should men pay like make the actual argument why men should pay

03:20:19.340 i feel like that's like their job like that's what's expected in today's society like it's not

03:20:25.420 it's expected of what kind of men yeah it doesn't matter if you're traditional or not i'm sure i've

03:20:31.020 been on dates with non-traditional guys that have paid okay that's true sure they'll still pay well but

03:20:36.860 but that seems to be based in some sort of tradition yeah but they don't have to be fully like

03:20:42.700 traditional but why should so you're you're 19 correct yes so and are you dating guys kind of

03:20:49.580 around your age like 19 20 21 or are you dating older yeah a little older how old like 21 uh okay

03:20:57.500 do you think a 20 or 21 year old's earning potential is substantially greater than yours

03:21:04.540 no probably still in college maybe yeah so why should a guy pay make the actual argument

03:21:12.700 i wouldn't be on a date with someone that i would don't want like a future with and like

03:21:16.380 and i want to like wait okay i don't know how to put it into words just let me think just keep

03:21:21.020 just go back to her sorry i didn't mean to cut off

03:21:25.260 i just think guys should like provide yeah they don't want traditional man they want to

03:21:29.260 provide her that's the only gentleman to pay i suppose you could be i wouldn't say a gentleman

03:21:34.540 either they don't want a gentleman with a traditional man and he doesn't want me doing only fans

03:21:40.620 then he should be paying and showing me that like he wants to provide for me doesn't want me doing

03:21:45.260 what i do to make a living so he what are you going to do but okay so someone someone who's

03:21:50.780 financially financially affluent is not going to make a bad investment therefore if he doesn't want to

03:21:57.260 invest in a woman who is not going to be loyal to him do you see the contradiction there i mean it's

03:22:02.380 not that big of an investment it's like one date i know but just and like if you want to make a good

03:22:06.860 impression and you're not really messed with the girl then you'll pay for her you know what would

03:22:09.820 make a good first impression to the man is not to have your nude photographs online for five

03:22:16.060 dollars a month they're not probably they're not court they're not getting traditional men

03:22:19.580 because if they were that's the first that's the first point any traditional man wouldn't even

03:22:22.860 take them on a date to begin with right but so that's why they want provider men this is what

03:22:27.020 feminism this is what feminism is all about they're expecting that traditional treatment

03:22:31.420 even though they're not getting traditional men yeah traditional means exactly i agree yeah no but

03:22:38.220 i find it like you're both you're both modern women you're both modern women yet you're holding

03:22:43.740 men to this gendered expectation that they be providers and pay for you on the first date when

03:22:49.820 you're not even willing to reciprocate that sort of tradition back no because you you're looking at

03:22:55.020 from the wrong standpoint they're not looking from because an aspect of a traditional man is a provider

03:22:59.980 right uh what's the aspect of a sugar daddy a provider that's more what they're looking for

03:23:04.220 is a permanent not i'm not saying you guys want a sugar daddy i'm sure you guys want to be in love

03:23:07.500 and all that stuff sure but that's the point that they want they want a provider because they are used

03:23:11.420 to men giving them money for literally anything so why would they not expect their partner to do the

03:23:17.100 same that's a different thing i i don't look i agree that a guy could be a provider and not be a

03:23:22.460 a traditional guy absolutely but it's the expectation on the woman's part that oh well if

03:23:29.020 he doesn't pay for the first date there's not going to be a second one it's a man's job to pay for the

03:23:34.860 first date well it's a woman's job to not prostitute herself online okay well maybe if we go on a couple

03:23:41.500 dates and you know and we eventually get in a relationship and you don't like that then i'll stop

03:23:46.220 but regardless that's still not a traditional man but i just don't i don't get the whole like

03:23:51.420 i'm a modern woman i'm i'm free like sexually free i can do only fans but i also want to hold

03:23:59.900 men to this very narrow standard of what their gender roles are it's not even a narrow standard

03:24:05.900 what their gender roles are they already have so many men who are throwing money at them for

03:24:10.780 literally doing nothing if they can't have if they have a partner who comes into their life and

03:24:15.420 is like oh i'm not paying for dinner well i'm not doing that she's gonna be like well i can just

03:24:18.460 get my discord boyfriend to do it then i can just get this only fans honestly to tip me some money

03:24:22.700 yeah that's what that's what the problem is they are so used to it that they can't you can't expect

03:24:26.860 them to date somebody who wouldn't do what a million strangers are already doing for them

03:24:31.580 you're right i think it's short-term solutions but long-term problems yeah i would also agree with

03:24:37.340 that but that's a whole different exactly no conversation because they're not getting traditional

03:24:42.620 men like that's stop it there like well i'm not looking for men in general i'm just i honestly

03:24:49.100 i might be a feminist you can't wait to be pregnant you might be a what do all this okay not feminist

03:24:53.500 but like i don't really want to depend on a man to like provide for me hold on no no no you just said

03:24:59.500 if he wanted me to literally doing only fans then he should provide for me because why does he have to

03:25:04.620 say if he's not providing for me like i can do what i just said you're not looking for a guy to you

03:25:09.020 you don't want to i don't want to depend on a man but expecting a man to pay for the first

03:25:14.220 expecting a man to pay for the first date is literally you depending on the man okay but

03:25:18.780 you're saying that i can't do only fans if he wants to pay for the first date then okay then provide

03:25:24.380 for me if you don't want me to do only fans you can my job but the expectation is a little uh let's

03:25:29.500 uh let's say unfair well that's life i have something to say a lot of some guys that do

03:25:40.060 pay for meals because they paid they also expect sex because they paid for a meal i'm not gonna

03:25:46.620 lie some occasions i've paid for my own food just so just didn't like not deal with stuff so as much

03:25:52.700 as women expecting that some men expect oh i paid for a meal now i want like you gotta have sex with me

03:25:59.020 like just some weird shit okay well i i think that expectation's weird but i'd certainly agree

03:26:04.620 with you that there's definitely men who will be who think that way uh not all yeah not all but i

03:26:10.300 think i think that's a bad way to look it's just like it's it's weird to me because it's like here's

03:26:15.980 this gendered expectation on men which in my view is sort of a traditional gender role to be a provider

03:26:23.100 to pay for first dates it's like how are you gonna have that expectation on men but not like be the

03:26:30.700 most modern type of woman possible because they're not because they are modern and they already have

03:26:38.060 people who are willing to do it so why wouldn't they

03:26:43.900 it's just like to me it's like well if you acknowledge that you're a modern woman just be

03:26:48.540 like yeah i guess we could split the bill no but they're still they're going after modern men

03:26:55.420 that just happen to be providers right but there are modern men who are also down to go 50 50 they

03:27:02.700 are what's wrong with dating them that's not what they want that's not what they want right because

03:27:09.180 feminism is a buffet you get to pick and choose that which benefits you like broke and like whatever but

03:27:15.340 like right but you wouldn't date a broke guy i i have dated a lot of broke guys um but i think that

03:27:21.820 i've learned from that all broke you just got out of high school yeah that's also a very big issue

03:27:26.780 with this conversation right now but i know but my point is that like if he wants me to not do only

03:27:31.980 fans and wants to be traditional then provide for me so i won't do only fans i think the issue is

03:27:38.060 here men men are talking to you if you don't want your girl to do only fans don't date a girl who's

03:27:42.620 on only fans because it will always remain the issue any man who's going to be willing to date

03:27:47.420 someone who does only fans is like in the long run not going to be a good man well yeah i mean

03:27:52.940 the reality is for anything is a man that's more willing to want to date a woman that does only fans

03:27:59.500 is less likely to want to be he's going to be more likely to want to be like a 50 50 yeah yeah provider

03:28:05.900 like he's not he's not going to want to later in the future yeah that then that's a generalization

03:28:11.660 that's that's you know you're probably going to find more luck in dating if you were to date

03:28:16.700 a more modern man or someone who is like hey let's go 50 50 because that's the type of man that's

03:28:22.540 going to be willing to put up with the only fans account you're it's it's like finding a unicorn

03:28:28.700 to find some man who wants to be your provider but is also like a leader as well that's like

03:28:34.620 that's an extreme contradiction so good luck finding the unicorn it's probably not going to

03:28:40.780 happen i mean and also the thing is a lot of men that do date you if you have an only fans might be

03:28:46.300 looking at you to be able to cash out themselves exactly they're they're the guys who are more

03:28:50.540 likely going to be like hey if i pay for x many dates or one date she's going to put out because she

03:28:57.260 puts out for all these other guys but the courses that people like like take sales and stuff you know

03:29:02.620 like it's literally on like pimping women you also have to take into account that the kind of men that

03:29:08.620 you're date that you're dating around our age range are probably not making as much money as you are so

03:29:15.660 it's a lot harder for them to definitely not be a provider look if also like if i can kind of make

03:29:22.140 it slightly political like if you're a woman and you consider yourself to have progressive political

03:29:27.500 values you're liberal you're democrat it's crazy for you to want for a man to pay for the first date

03:29:34.940 i think that's crazy yeah like if you have progressive social values you're not really

03:29:42.300 progressive if in like society you want things to be progressive but you want to go back to patriarchy

03:29:50.220 in your relationship that's crazy to me you gotta be you got that you gotta be across the board with

03:29:57.900 that shit oh and then hold on wait actually hold on so just going around the table on this who do you

03:30:03.900 think who do you think should pay for the first we'll just reiterate it i don't think everybody answered

03:30:08.620 man men most of the time men men the man men men if they asked medicine

03:30:20.380 i was a man uh man wait and i'll we'll go around the table again but start with oh

03:30:26.220 shit killer of cereal donated two hundred dollars is end goal for seeking dates to ultimately procreate

03:30:33.020 in a traditional sense start a family love have children seeking a sugar daddy isn't traditional

03:30:40.300 because it's the transactional relationship definitely but i don't know if that was to me

03:30:45.900 the only reason why i brought up sugar daddying is because the men they're going to find that

03:30:49.580 are willing to provide for them in that sense are going to be closer to a sugar daddy than an actual

03:30:54.620 partner i think there's like tons of guys that like will still pay for the first date and like

03:31:00.700 will want to get to know us um i don't know that knows i'm glad it's working for you i'm glad it's

03:31:06.620 working out for you i have a problem with it i don't really even go on dates or like i don't have

03:31:10.380 interest in even going on dates or like finding a relationship with a man because i've already been

03:31:14.860 like before i even did only fans like it's never worked out like men are just pieces of shit most of

03:31:19.660 the time so i think that might be erroneous erroneous attracted towards you might be pieces of

03:31:28.140 shit because of the things that you are i just said before thank you i didn't always say real

03:31:32.060 well before only you were in high school so a lot of guys are pieces of shit all of like yeah so

03:31:36.940 you're telling you're telling me that like disagree that's a that's a sexist that's like the douches

03:31:41.660 time besides college or high school that's like the four years for a guy to be a douche and it'd be

03:31:46.140 okay what about women at that age a lot of them are bitches too yeah i was a bitch you're telling me

03:31:51.660 that immature men are willing to say whatever they want to get you to sleep with them

03:31:55.580 like they're willing to pay they're willing to say anything they're so okay i was i was in the

03:32:00.060 middle of a thing before the tts came in so okay um so those of you you said you answered who should

03:32:07.340 pay um just starting with we'll start with you and then you uh you guys want to get married yeah

03:32:14.940 yeah does everybody just who wants to get married one day well i mean yeah show fans no no no okay

03:32:20.380 um so wait starting with you then you then we'll go around um will you take your husband's last name

03:32:28.700 um yeah is it yeah of course i'm going to add it you're gonna hyphenate well i'm not gonna hyphenate

03:32:37.420 i'm gonna make my last name my middle name and then his last name my last name i'd probably consider

03:32:42.300 doing something like that too the only reason is because it's half of my identity is my last name like

03:32:47.500 you can't even tell what race i am without my last name so i feel like that's a very big part of me

03:32:52.220 and i don't want to lose it honestly if he had a cool last name though and it flowed with my first

03:32:56.540 name like i i would i would not not hyphenate yeah it's also part of my boyfriend has like the

03:33:02.940 one of the most common last names in america so going from my unique ass last name that like tells you

03:33:08.620 my race or my um nationality or ethnicity as soon as you hear it versus his i yeah i'm in the same boat

03:33:17.500 yeah yeah you but i also uh don't plan on getting married okay um i don't know if i want to get

03:33:26.780 married but i'd probably like add it on add it so hyphenate actually you know what i'd probably just

03:33:33.500 take his last name because if i'm gonna get married i'm gonna assume it's gonna last madison what about

03:33:38.540 you i would take his last name for sure all right hold on let me read this really quick uh davon jackson

03:33:43.740 men please take this as a sign to stop simping for these demons thank you davon jackson appreciate it

03:33:51.820 uh okay well uh some of you i suppose are consistent a little bit on that front but we have a lot of

03:33:59.020 women who come on the show you guys want this sort of traditional scenario with these these guys you

03:34:04.940 want men to pay for first dates but don't want to take their last name so oh let's see charge up

03:34:14.940 okay cool we have uh let's see uh let me see hold on

03:34:24.700 oh makeup is a lie that's a good one you're cold no okay i said i have questions you have oh you have

03:34:29.820 questions i have a lot of questions what do you got for like a lot of people at this table what you

03:34:33.660 got go ahead first not you guys not you for you before when you go on dates when you're dating now

03:34:40.220 do they know beforehand going into it what your um job title is or after yeah they know beforehand

03:34:46.700 how do you social media everyone knows yeah so do you are you usually so that means you're meeting

03:34:50.940 most men online and not organically um no somewhere through like mutual friends honestly and like i've

03:34:56.220 met a couple guys organically that know from the start that i do only fans and they still want to

03:35:01.180 take me out have you ever had to tell somebody before like hey i do only fans yeah and how do they

03:35:07.100 usually react to that like okay like get your bread i guess like get your bread i guess how old are they

03:35:12.540 like your age yeah okay like not a lot of guys like have a problem with it like they understand and

03:35:19.900 are these the assholes you're going after or are they like simps those guys um honestly like i've

03:35:26.460 dated and like gone on dates with like all different kinds of guys so and none of them

03:35:29.980 have had an issue with it no i've never so okay i'm happy for you i'm glad but statistically that

03:35:36.940 doesn't even make sense that means you must be pulling from a certain pool of men because like

03:35:42.620 that's i'm happy like if you can find people and i'm i know there's men out there that are perfectly

03:35:46.700 fine with it like there's girls girls and only fans who are in long-term committed relationships um

03:35:51.740 um but i just i don't there has to be some correlation going on between like the men you're

03:35:58.460 meeting in choosing to date and like them accepting this i don't think i've gotten like far long enough

03:36:06.940 to where that's been a discussion more like a first date and then like yeah because i'm not gonna waste

03:36:11.820 anyone's time like if i don't like you then yeah fair would you guys be opposed to dating like one of

03:36:16.620 your subscribers because they are going to give you everything that you want they're going to support

03:36:20.300 your only fans they're going to be able to provide for you i genuinely like who likes them you yeah

03:36:26.300 what about a guy on only fans who does only fans yeah yeah

03:36:29.980 yeah yeah i feel like that's probably like that's the best yeah i like you're getting

03:36:35.660 a sister yeah yeah because stranger things have definitely happened for sure in the way society

03:36:44.620 is progressing and the way options go if there's every woman's on only fans yeah men are gonna have

03:36:50.220 to start courting up with them but i don't know and you said more because your talks relationship

03:36:57.340 what got you into only fans at such a young age um i don't know just like through people

03:37:03.340 talking to people you ask the same questions every time you think this is boring what you've been

03:37:08.380 talking about for the last three hours i've been born ever being real beating dead horse you said

03:37:13.180 through people got you into it yeah like your friends doing it so you just did it no it wasn't even

03:37:17.260 that i had um mutual

03:37:21.580 kira why don't you read that it's crazy work to demand men take care of protect and provide for

03:37:26.300 you and all he gets in return is i'm guessing ka-chow everyone has seen and you don't even take his

03:37:32.300 last name they said they would take their last name to be fair they did say they would take their

03:37:36.460 last names well put that was just me would they actually though that's the real i think they would

03:37:40.140 take their that's the real question doubt it they stand by their words what if he has a bad last name

03:37:46.540 do you still take it then yeah either way my fiancee's last name is so basic mine isn't

03:37:53.340 what about you you're the one i have a bad last name you still take the bad last name of your

03:37:57.900 like how bad like he was a directive sending of some political leader and his last name just

03:38:04.060 happens to be hitler what the

03:38:09.260 i don't know i'm definitely damn that's an extreme

03:38:11.980 i don't know if that's that's a fair no hyphen nothing we're changing to my last name actually

03:38:17.500 both of us like a whole family that's extreme oh shit okay good times good times but i mean there's

03:38:26.860 also like a lot of women can provide like besides like money and like taking women don't provide

03:38:31.980 money um no no not like other than money because that's what like what the comment was just saying

03:38:38.140 that's what men do whatever um like cooking cleaning take literally giving birth to their

03:38:44.220 children like being pregnant for nine months giving birth raising them and like all the other stuff

03:38:50.300 like why can't they provide money out of all that like you mean up front what do you mean up front

03:38:57.660 as a deposit well it's like you got to think right like maybe it would make sense your argument

03:39:03.340 would make sense let me finish up front okay so maybe your argument would make sense well down

03:39:09.260 the road women have this you know this bigger burden of going through pregnancy and the physical

03:39:14.300 things that that entails uh yes it's absolutely a burden there's certain health risks involved

03:39:20.380 but the way dating is now is that you could end up dating a hundred men going on first date second

03:39:30.620 dates third date with with all those men before you finally land on the one that you have children

03:39:36.380 with so arguing that men should pay for first dates because there's a possibility that you'll get

03:39:42.940 pregnant maybe with this guy it's actually very low chance um i think is in today's day and age

03:39:50.220 doesn't make sense maybe in the back in the 50s when you went on you dated like three dudes the

03:39:57.420 third one you ended up marrying maybe but chicks be going on five dates a week you think you're going

03:40:02.940 to have kids with all of them no but like why what's wrong with paying for the first date like

03:40:10.540 it's literally a one you said well down the road there's a chance i might get pregnant some men should

03:40:15.500 pay for first dates it's not like well it's sort of your argument okay well i don't think it's i just

03:40:22.380 don't think it's a good argument though that wasn't my argument given given the frequency of how

03:40:26.220 often you people will go on first date wait do you have you ever not paid for the first date i

03:40:30.860 i've paid for first dates like have you ever not paid for first date though oh yeah you made it oh

03:40:36.220 yeah did they go i've probably not paid i've probably not paid for more dates than i have paid for first

03:40:42.380 they go on another date with you yes well they know you're rich like you're you make a lot of money

03:40:47.500 it's obvious you own this podcast or whatever okay but i also dated i've also dated before i started the

03:40:53.660 podcast where it probably wasn't as obvious or clear that well you can just be bullshitting but

03:40:59.580 okay about what that about you went on so many dates and didn't pay oh yeah do you think you're

03:41:05.020 just picky are you just picky or like like why didn't you pay well as a true egalitarian

03:41:14.940 we can split the bill and also here's the thing here's something not oh exposed no no no no not

03:41:23.260 really don't expect her to cook well hold on i'm adhering to the current wait you want a status quo

03:41:30.860 hold on let me there's too many questions coming out at one time so i would say i've changed a little

03:41:36.700 bit recently um so in more recently i've been more willing to pay for the first date but also my

03:41:45.980 screening methods have changed quite dramatically um and also um certain other factors have changed

03:41:53.980 but when i was making a little bit less money of course yeah i'd split i'd pay for my she pays her

03:42:02.220 for her even if you really liked her and saw a lot of potential yeah maybe now here's all of them

03:42:08.140 go on second dates with you no not all of them but i'll tell you this i'll tell you this a lot of the

03:42:12.220 women i was dating back in the back in the day i would argue having you know living in california

03:42:18.620 living in santa barbara most women here in santa barbara are liberal progressive women or maybe

03:42:26.300 they're moderate there's definitely not a lot of conservative women in california a lot of

03:42:31.660 conservatives with santa barbara the university i'm sorry the university brings a lot of the

03:42:35.500 liberals yes but santa barbara is predominantly a conservative town without the older maybe like

03:42:41.100 in their 40s 50s residents of santa barbara who don't just go here for the university yuppies are

03:42:46.380 super liberal i think i mean like statistically like okay i'm gonna say women women who live in santa

03:42:52.460 barbara and california between the age of 18 to 35 are super liberal i would say 18 to 22 but after

03:42:59.420 that 22 mark a lot of them are conservative out here they're it's even worse once they get into the

03:43:04.060 corporate world they even they double down the issue is the university indoctrinates there are

03:43:10.140 there i don't know about that far yes they're in the court they're yuppies they work for the wokest

03:43:14.540 company there's fucking apple out here there's amazon out here there's a bunch of facebook

03:43:18.700 i mean i went to ucla i graduated in 2019 like i took sociology classes for ge they're a hundred

03:43:25.980 percent indoctrinating in the university statistics or like gender studies that's a legitimate well

03:43:31.660 you're taking gender studies okay hold on it's the content oh wait madison send us i have that wait i

03:43:39.740 the content that's in the courses is very biased well you sent me a you're taking a gender

03:43:45.020 studies no no no i'm talking i took a history course in the history department history and

03:43:49.820 a bias course in the history absolutely that was good i never experienced that here as a

03:43:54.540 social major is what i'm saying i've never i've had things but they were all statistic based we're

03:43:59.180 just looking at well see that's the issue is like statistics is really easy to like skew and like

03:44:04.460 and like you know show what you want to show definitely i just don't think i was ever in a

03:44:08.940 history course or anthropology course or something like that and we're talking okay hold on we're getting

03:44:12.780 off topic here okay so to bring it back yes i was actually the vast majority almost all the dates

03:44:18.220 i was going on for the longest period of time yes i would split the bill is that why your ex-girlfriend

03:44:24.220 didn't make you food when you were sick that might be a big reason it might be it's the women you are

03:44:30.300 seeking out not necessarily but i will say this i will say this is that you might lose some girls

03:44:37.900 doing that but if a girl is i guess i don't know if the the word like tolerate is the right

03:44:44.460 she gets hung up on something so like like you're the assumption is probably you will pay for dates

03:44:52.140 down the road you're just not going to pay for the first day because you don't know exactly what

03:44:55.260 you're getting so if she can't tolerate just like one maybe two dates where she pays 50 50 just so you

03:45:02.300 can figure out if this is the kind of girl you want to be with like if she can't just overlook that

03:45:08.380 and focus in okay i i don't like the fact that he's not going to pay but i want to figure out the

03:45:13.260 rest of this guy is he a good man will he be able to provide for me down the road what are these all

03:45:19.100 like all these personalities like uh quirks that i want to know about before saying i don't care because

03:45:26.700 he didn't pay for the first date it's a no from me dog to me it just says more of like it also

03:45:32.140 depends on the men you're dating and their values and things like that but if i were single and if

03:45:37.420 i were to go on a date with a man and he we split the bill at the end that's to me that's him signaling

03:45:42.700 i'm not interested in you you know great date great talk but i don't see this progressing any further

03:45:47.820 and then what if he follows up with you the next day and says i had a great time i'd like to meet you

03:45:52.860 again and i and i ghost that's the thing but you're saying it's an indicator that he's not

03:45:57.900 interested but what if his interest continues i would still be like how many girls are you taking

03:46:03.900 out on dates that you're so interested in me you couldn't pay for our date because i in the same

03:46:07.020 respect though if i could tell by the dude you're super progressive kiko you're super liberal i'm not

03:46:12.940 why would that be an issue for the guy to not pay for the first day in the middle you're super

03:46:17.420 progressive bro okay i i think like if you're taking me out you should pay if i ask you out

03:46:22.860 then i i think that's like you don't you don't ask women don't ask guys out women don't ask men

03:46:29.260 out okay that's like the whole point like then guys should pay for the day if they're always the

03:46:33.020 ones asking us out well that's convenient if i asked that's very that's a very privileged position

03:46:38.860 for you to since men want to be so dominant whatever like pay for the date i think if i thought the

03:46:43.900 date wasn't going to go well it wasn't going well i would ask to split the bill then wait do you do

03:46:48.060 you genuinely think that men wouldn't prefer if there was just a hundred percent reversal

03:46:53.580 in the sexual dynamics between men and women if it was just totally flipped where it was like

03:46:59.260 girls like thirsting after dudes sliding into dms you sliding into hundreds well i don't know about

03:47:05.580 that but like i wouldn't though you don't think that men would take the trade instantly much about men

03:47:11.740 well we know that but you like do you think that like men if if men wouldn't take the trade you

03:47:18.380 think they wouldn't like girls were just like wanting to fuck them like crazy you wouldn't you

03:47:24.380 don't think we would take we wouldn't take that trade y'all still find something to complain about

03:47:27.900 nah we would take i would take that trade if it would instantly put men in such a strong well you

03:47:33.180 guys are negotiating position what's that you guys already shame us for being whores all this like

03:47:38.060 every single day for literally any little thing if we if you find out like we have a body count of

03:47:42.140 like what like five like you guys will call us like oh i thought you were a virgin no oh did you

03:47:48.220 lie about that i am a virgin so what are you arguing about about what men say about other women

03:47:54.300 not just well this is it's not this isn't even your what do you mean by that i'm arguing for other

03:47:58.700 women not just myself well you're a virgin so why would you care about men's because you're

03:48:03.740 because she still cares how men like have a viewpoint you still have an opinion on something

03:48:09.580 it's just like men would instantly take the trade of women have to come to us we get to be the sexual

03:48:15.020 selectors we get to pick among dozens or even hundreds of women who are just dying to spend money

03:48:21.500 on us fuck us etc we would take that trade in a fucking second so i don't think a lot of men would

03:48:28.300 actually like that what's that i don't think they would actually like yeah i thought men like loved like

03:48:32.460 women that are hard to get like that's what i told you men do not like women so you want an easy

03:48:37.900 woman who it's not about easy no no it's not it's not we're not talking about easy or thirsty or like

03:48:42.620 yeah like girls that just i like the girl i want to fuck you so bad that's a bit much but that's what

03:48:47.660 you just said no we want women who want us okay we don't want women who shoot us down or play hard

03:48:55.020 to get or don't text us back i think their version of hard to get is like just not sleeping with you

03:48:59.340 right away no i don't think that's what hard to get with you no a lot of women view them playing

03:49:03.980 hard to get is literally them just not i'll repeat it one more time if you play hard to get you quickly

03:49:10.380 become hard to want that's fine but i'm saying it is 100 true it's a hundred percent and it's just

03:49:19.100 embarrassing so i think i'm attracted to men a man that's like not so fucking easy and that's why i like

03:49:24.460 the most men are very i feel like that's what i mean when i say i feel like i want a man that i

03:49:29.260 feel like doesn't like me and like my version of that is like somebody that's not so fucking easy

03:49:33.980 and like because men are just easy like always like

03:49:39.020 yo ab check thank you for the gift of 20 memberships um

03:49:44.540 are most of these men that are easy coming to you yes that's why they're easy because they want you

03:49:49.500 whereas if it were different and you wanted a man um that didn't want you it would be harder wait

03:49:55.340 what what did you say i'm saying it's you think that men are easy because the men that are coming

03:50:02.300 to you want you that's why it's easy for you to get them whereas if it were a man that you wanted

03:50:07.660 that didn't want you would be harder you haven't experienced that yet in fact you said you were more

03:50:12.780 attracted to those men like you wouldn't consider a woman a simp like in someone that's like i know

03:50:28.060 a simple man brian yeah there are but like as a like a guy who has only fans like there's not so many

03:50:34.700 girls like subscribing and like wanting that it's always more men yeah gay men

03:50:39.820 what it's just like a man's like natural thing is to be like i'll bring it back to my whole thing

03:50:46.700 because you guys are grilling me on the whole me not paying for first dates back in the day i was on

03:50:51.740 here's let me give a bit more context right so i was on dating apps now the reality is when you're

03:50:57.820 meeting a lot of these women on dating apps tinder even hinge which i think is a bit more geared

03:51:03.660 towards people are looking for something a bit more serious bumble whatever it may be i've had

03:51:08.540 so many experiences going on dates with these girls they're dating multiple dudes

03:51:15.580 that's fine no it's not not if you want me to there's no way what are you doing on there dating

03:51:20.540 multiple women like what you're on a dating app what is the difference well the difference is i'm not

03:51:26.300 gonna pay for a date with a girl who's entertaining multiple dudes you can get my you can get that if

03:51:32.940 you're my girl if we're in a committed relationship i ain't gonna be paying for a date with you and

03:51:38.780 then you're this dude another dude the next day that's crazy well i don't know i think like i'm not

03:51:44.060 gonna invite you to my birthday party at david busters if i'm not gonna pay for you so i don't

03:51:47.500 think you should ask me out like i'm not gonna invite you to my birthday dinner and not pay like

03:51:51.260 i'm not gonna invite you out and not pay so like if you invite me to dinner and ask me out i'm you should

03:51:57.580 pay let me give you let me give you a scenario so there's a girl if i i match with a girl on a

03:52:02.140 dating app and she's currently sexually involved with two men now i don't know this but she's

03:52:07.420 sexually involved with two men i'm on a first date with her she fucked a guy yesterday and she has a

03:52:13.580 plan to fuck the other guy tomorrow do you think i should be a upstanding gentleman and pay for this

03:52:20.700 woman how would you know let's just deserve to be treated and also like women deserve to be treated

03:52:26.300 what well how would you know no no no let her answer this isn't for you like provided and like

03:52:31.900 cared for and respected because why because they're women they're ladies yeah ladies even if she's

03:52:38.620 another guy that maybe we can get to know each other more and while she's another guy you can take

03:52:44.540 me out after that okay please let me join like why okay i understand why the hell would you pay for

03:52:49.980 somebody's first date if you knew she was fucking two other guys like what if i don't and she's so

03:52:55.820 you're just going to expect that from every girl you're going to date with if you're on the dating

03:52:59.100 app you should but well i don't go on dates from dating and that's your problem but expect what

03:53:05.340 thing from me that you're fucking two other girls but there's not a burden on her for for her to pay

03:53:10.860 for dates like double standards like as a woman there's no okay hold on as a guy there's no world

03:53:17.260 where i can ever go on a first date with a girl ever and expect her to pay for the date in its

03:53:23.580 entirety to pay for me and for her now maybe i can expect to split that's bare minimum whereas women

03:53:31.580 you can go on a date expecting that the guy pays for the whole thing or maybe maybe there's a split

03:53:38.220 i paid for my first date okay you've simped for your boyfriend whatever no i didn't you said you

03:53:44.540 were like chasing this guy down for months i did not say that oh my god you said you met i also i

03:53:50.220 also split my first date with yeah i used to i got my starbucks points i used to pay for me and my ex

03:53:55.260 to go on dates like he would i would pay like he wouldn't even first we're talking first dates here

03:53:59.740 though well we didn't go on a first look here's my thing right if you're properly single i'm much

03:54:09.020 more inclined to be willing to pay for a first date but if if you're like entertaining multiple

03:54:14.540 options which is advice a lot of women get date multiple men at the same time maybe even sleep

03:54:20.060 with multiple men at the same time it makes absolutely zero fucking sense for any self-respecting

03:54:26.940 man to pay for a first date for a girl who may very well later that night after your wonderfully

03:54:33.820 romantic and chivalrous date she goes and fucks another dude i totally agree yeah i agree too well

03:54:39.980 that's the dating meta right now well not for me why would i ever be fucking two different guys and

03:54:44.860 going on are you entertaining multiple men are you entertaining multiple men no you have discord

03:54:49.260 boyfriends well yeah but you talk to them every single day why the fuck am i gonna take you on a date

03:54:55.180 don't go on dance okay this is hypothetical okay i'm not actually saying i'm gonna do whatever i'm

03:55:00.860 saying why would a guy go on a date with you and want to do all this providing when your romantic

03:55:05.500 attention is divided well i don't have any romantic you said you have a discord boyfriend yeah

03:55:14.140 so i'm supposed to take you serious when you're like constantly talking to this other dude in a

03:55:19.740 romantic context no what no you're not that's what i'm saying like i totally agree if i'm entertaining

03:55:27.340 other men no you shouldn't pay for our first date whatever but like and most women are entertaining

03:55:32.060 other men maybe just dating other men so are men cool not to the same degree i mean some men

03:55:38.540 i don't know i think i think that there's delusion on both sides of the spectrum of what men think

03:55:44.300 is happening with women and what women think is happening with men on an average i think it's

03:55:48.540 delusion on both sides to be honest because if they're saying that and you guys are saying that

03:55:52.940 what you're saying is that you think it's easier it's the same it is just as easy for a man to get

03:55:58.700 a date with a woman than it is a woman to get a date with a man no i'm not saying that i'm saying the

03:56:02.620 assumption that that generally the average woman is is entertaining multiple men men in that in general the

03:56:10.140 average man is uh like all i'm saying women that's that's that's a false delusional dichotomy that's

03:56:16.460 not i'm saying that women have the opportunity and with opportunity comes more it is higher more

03:56:23.420 temptation more temptation means higher probability but also women are very different than men if men

03:56:28.620 had that they would be the tenfold more i agree i agree but it's not the case men don't have the

03:56:37.900 the same opportunity you guys literally have a book that talks about spinning plates and in a book

03:56:43.740 that teaches men how to spin plates what women women don't have anything like that what does that mean

03:56:49.740 so i'm talking about they do yes they do like what cosmopolitan just you guys talking there's never

03:56:57.660 ever been anything that's explicitly taught a woman how to entertain multiple men maybe there's been

03:57:04.300 content on how women could finesse men for money but there's never been content on how women are

03:57:11.420 teaching women how to entertain multiple men like there is content out there for men let me ask you

03:57:16.860 let me ask you a question okay so you're talking about dating multiple people at the same time

03:57:21.100 who has a greater capacity to do that men or women women but is that is that the reality it's hard to

03:57:27.580 say but i would argue like again this almost comes back to who has an easier time getting laid i would

03:57:33.340 argue almost if any woman was inclined to she could like have three like three five ten

03:57:41.100 fuck buddies at the same time coulda shoulda woulda but that's not the reality i would argue maybe the

03:57:46.300 top five ten percent of men can do that yeah most men are not able to have that degree of sexual

03:57:53.260 optionality can would should right but that doesn't mean they do statistically hasn't it been found

03:57:58.380 statistically that like isn't it sixty percent of the girls who are within the ages of how old was

03:58:04.140 it it was like 19 to 30 are in a relationship and then it's like 30 of men so statistically you're

03:58:10.940 wrong statistically more women are in relationships than men are but i think statistically men are more

03:58:17.180 sexually active than women when we also look at those statistics nope yeah i remember i was just reading

03:58:22.220 like this it's also how can you be in a relationship with multiple like like that because if there's

03:58:29.100 one guy dating five women they are they're all claiming to be in a relationship he's monopolizing

03:58:35.900 five women but that's only one guy so that's how the statistics will be skewed i think it's called a

03:58:40.540 neighborhood phenomenon where it's like only the top 10 are getting represented so like those top 10 overly

03:58:46.140 sexually active people are like the ones that like we all are focusing on and get the rap so like

03:58:53.580 yeah i mean those kinds of studies are also based on self admittance um so it's kind of like statistics

03:59:01.260 like that are kind of hard to really value at fate because i'll tell you i'm a woman and i have many

03:59:07.020 woman friends you know and i've grown up with many woman friends i'm 26 years old and at this time

03:59:12.700 throughout the entire time of me being a woman and having female friends that has never been a norm

03:59:18.940 or an average i've had like one friend who was a cheater that was a girl i'll say this look spending

03:59:23.580 money it's reserved for your girl until she is your girlfriend you should keep your money

03:59:31.980 and look where that landed you a woman who didn't want to cook for you exactly damn what you're obviously

03:59:39.180 courting non-traditional women by your spending that was that was like seven years ago this

03:59:45.020 anecdote of mine it was your that's what you gave us to work with so i gave you sure i gave you one

03:59:50.300 anecdote look look here let me ask the panel a question do you believe you should make men wait

03:59:55.980 to get wifey privileges no no for marriage wifey privileges i don't know maybe cooking cleaning

04:00:04.860 it's like a child it's like no we're in a relationship that's yeah you're showing your

04:00:09.900 capabilities for marriage and yeah just like a man paying for the first date showing your capabilities

04:00:14.780 to be a husband so okay if you were on a date with a guy and you were at his house say it's the

04:00:21.100 second date second time hanging out and he's like yo my laundry's over there can you fold it would you do

04:00:26.700 it yeah second date i'd love to yeah yeah of course if i really liked him yeah okay all right if you say

04:00:35.580 so if you say so um maybe if he told me to he whoa okay if anything i'm the opposite i wouldn't want

04:00:47.180 to do it and then if he told me to i wouldn't want to do it if it's a second date a lot of times when i'm

04:00:52.540 in a relationship with somebody i kind of just pick that up like i'll go and do the dishes when

04:00:57.180 we're done eating i'll make the bed once we get out like just as automatic but if you ask me or tell

04:01:03.020 me to do it hell no yeah i think that might be a deeper in privilege not second date that sounds like

04:01:11.100 a dictator not a partner i'm just saying i don't think uh the way the current dating meta is look

04:01:19.340 there's some great girls out there that are properly single but if she's not if she's

04:01:24.220 entertaining other men which if you meet her for example on the dating app she most likely is

04:01:29.420 there's also a good risk she might be sleeping with other men while considering dating you so

04:01:34.220 what's the timeline how long does she have to wait before she went on her last date or slept with

04:01:37.980 someone before she can go on and date with you what's like what is the the longer the better okay

04:01:43.180 sure brian of course but what's the number i want a woman who's only talking to one man at once

04:01:48.060 so like i do the same what if she cut off that dude two days ago is that valid it depends on how

04:01:53.340 long their relationship was okay yeah if it was like hey i went on one date with this one guy

04:01:58.540 yesterday or i don't know not yesterday i don't know but i only talked to one man at once yeah but

04:02:04.540 then again that's like you're you're assuming that she's telling the truth she could or couldn't be

04:02:09.900 i don't know but yeah like that's why i get not wanting to pay for a woman's date and then yeah

04:02:14.540 she's sleeping with somebody else but like dating is what it is it's dating so i think a woman or man

04:02:20.380 should be allowed to go on a date maybe he went on a date two weeks ago you can tell hey it's not

04:02:24.940 gonna work out time to go on a date with somebody else that's not i don't think that's her being

04:02:29.420 shady i think that's just her finding her partner and not settling because he paid for a date cool but

04:02:35.340 if i was on a date for with a girl for example and i've had this i've actually had this conversation you

04:02:39.740 know because sometimes i remember i was on this date with this girl and you know sometimes it'll

04:02:44.380 come up oh so how's dating going for you whatever and she told me that she had just

04:02:48.460 downloaded this was a date from hinge she just downloaded downloaded hinge and she

04:02:53.900 she'd had it for five days she'd already been on three dates and then it was like a wednesday and

04:03:00.540 then she's like well i have a date on friday or saturday and i like i immediately lost interest

04:03:05.740 yeah she's looking for someone to pay for her dinners and she was at she's like an average

04:03:09.740 looking chick yeah average unremarkable that's not the most of women though that's like a i would

04:03:15.820 say mature well i mean the thing is she's probably not sleeping with them though i don't know about

04:03:20.380 that i would say though sleeping or not going on that many dates is kind of counterbalance

04:03:23.420 well i mean yeah something a little deeper opinion yeah i mean that's that is i think an issue

04:03:28.540 yeah i'm not gonna split oh also if she's late for the date i ain't paying how about that

04:03:33.740 well it's kind of she's punctual if she's well you guys were an hour late what are we gonna pay

04:03:37.980 traffic don't give a car accident don't give a tire pop what don't give a damn that's why i got

04:03:44.220 pulled over don't give a no all of that happened no i'm just saying wait but what if you're late

04:03:50.060 are you gonna pay like well i mean that's the default i'm almost of of all the dates i've been

04:03:58.140 on i've maybe been late one time maybe one time did you pay for that date i don't recall i don't

04:04:04.780 know no i'm super i'm like with dates though i'd be super punctual i always like to get there on

04:04:10.620 time or even early it's great quality yeah yeah but if she's like 15 minutes late it's a bad person

04:04:16.540 sorry yeah generally speaking what if she warned you but if she told you oh my god this sure there

04:04:22.700 okay so yes it's there's a courtesy thing like it it it depends what is she gonna paying for the

04:04:28.220 whole date for being late that would actually i'd be impressed pretty awesome okay that's actually

04:04:34.460 there's contrition there there's like yeah exactly you made up for that you know yeah you wouldn't feel

04:04:39.820 more about her character overall exactly in the relationship would you accept it will respect yeah

04:04:45.340 he would what are you saying right now yeah i would accept that no i mean i'm just just curious

04:04:49.980 because you guys don't want like like a a woman that's gonna like brian is marrying a liberal woman

04:04:56.460 i don't know where the confusion is with that brian is never finding a traditional that went out the

04:05:00.140 window years i don't know i wouldn't say that i i am saying that i'm i'm calling it as a fact i will

04:05:07.260 look you up in 10 years and we'll see where we're at if you're married it's not going to be to a

04:05:11.020 traditional woman it's going to probably be a traditional woman in the same way that these

04:05:15.500 only fans girls they're not going to get a traditional man same way you're not going to

04:05:19.820 get a traditional well no no actually here's the difference though here's here's here's the difference

04:05:25.340 though is that um oh my god it is to some degree cope like this idea that oh they do oh if they're not

04:05:33.180 going to be able to get a guy of this character actually like a lot of these girls they're still

04:05:39.420 going to get the guy to fucking fall into his traditional like gender roles right now i don't

04:05:45.740 again i don't consider myself 100 traditional for example i don't want to get married that's not

04:05:50.220 traditional wait why don't you why don't you want to get married big l big fucking l to get married

04:05:56.380 especially as a guy in today's world it doesn't matter after six ten years

04:06:01.660 hmm it doesn't matter after 16 years but so i'd consider myself somewhere in the middle perhaps

04:06:07.500 when it comes to traditional modern i'm not i don't consider myself like a the uh

04:06:13.820 paragon of being a traditional man you wouldn't do it for tax breaks huh what's that no tax breaks

04:06:19.260 don't care don't care they're not that no marriage i'm not getting married i'll get married if she makes

04:06:25.260 if she has more money than me how about wow okay so it's no but so in the state i'm pretty sure in

04:06:29.500 the state of california i think it's like six years if you're together talking about common

04:06:33.420 law marriage yeah i don't think california i'm pretty sure i don't think it's the same way i

04:06:38.300 don't think i would marry a man there's only like three states wait you wouldn't marry i would want to

04:06:43.100 be making i don't want to depend on a man for money but i don't want to be with a man who doesn't

04:06:47.820 have money like that's cool or marry a man who doesn't have money either because that's cool and i

04:06:52.220 don't want to marry a woman who doesn't have money either that's cool exactly so i i'll date i'll

04:06:57.260 i'll have a long-term relationship with you but marriage is out of the picture you always say men

04:07:01.660 don't care about how much a woman makes i don't you know it's not gonna it won't ever preclude me

04:07:08.620 from having interest in a woman but what i'm saying is as a woman if you want me to marry you you got

04:07:15.900 to be financially like you got to make more money than me so like i said men some men care about

04:07:21.340 how much a woman makes well i don't care because i don't care if i get married or not he's he's

04:07:25.900 scared of of a woman coming in and then and then divorcing him and yeah robbing him for all his

04:07:30.860 money that's there's also prenups too though and he says there's rock there's ways around too much

04:07:36.300 he always says woman don't men don't care about how much a woman makes men don't care about this and

04:07:39.980 that but you just said she needs to be financially stable and have this out in the third so men do care

04:07:44.780 but i have okay that's i'm giving you a scenario the sole scenario where i would get money but if

04:07:52.060 she if a woman did like had a i don't know worked at chick-fil-a you would not date someone yes i would

04:07:59.420 he would date but not marry yeah no i would have a long-term relationship with her don't what you

04:08:05.260 wouldn't marry a long-term dating someone if you're not going to marry them like what's the what's the

04:08:09.340 point what's the point of getting married if you're not religious yeah are you not religious

04:08:16.060 i i believe i believe um but when it comes to marriage and look i think even devoutly christian

04:08:24.300 men have reason to fear marriage because here's the thing even though i think marriage is a substantial

04:08:30.460 part of the christian faith and other religions faith there are certain just secular uh potential

04:08:38.860 road bumps when it comes to marriage even for christian men because if your your wife at any

04:08:44.140 point reserves the right to become an apostate or even if she doesn't become an apostate she can just

04:08:51.020 change up and oh i want to get a divorce for whatever reason whether she remains religious or not

04:08:58.220 and then she's going to go see a divorce attorney who whether they're religious or not is irrelevant

04:09:04.460 they're interested in siphoning as much money as possible from this because i i don't know exactly

04:09:11.500 but perhaps sometimes they have they have an incentive basically to do as much work as possible and to

04:09:17.820 perhaps get the most favorable outcome for their client and then on top of that the state oversees

04:09:26.780 the divorce not the religion and so even for religious men the state will ultimately oversee

04:09:35.100 if your marriage doesn't work the state presides over your marriage and divorce not the not i don't

04:09:41.580 think the state should have any involvement take it out take the state out take it out of it take it out of

04:09:45.900 it i i greatly think the state should have some control over marriage why

04:09:50.300 maybe from the amount of women who on the flip side right we're talking about women taking men's

04:09:56.700 money from divorces all the men who decide to leave their wives with their kids and go start a new

04:10:01.900 family a new life with their new family and now their their wife who they married when she was 18 years

04:10:06.700 old and knocked her up who has no no degree no job history is has to be put back out in the world with

04:10:13.180 her three kids in a one bedroom apartment trying to funnel their lives which is more common men

04:10:19.820 getting divorce raped or men you just said it's fine i whatever whatever that happening to men

04:10:28.620 or men just leaving their partners who they've cherished and have children with i mean i've heard

04:10:34.300 personal anecdotes that line up with both very similar amount of people affecting both because in divorce

04:10:39.420 you can get divorce statistics that doesn't mean that the opposite isn't happening with non-divorce

04:10:44.300 families especially in certain demographics in certain cities in the in the united states there is

04:10:50.460 a hundred percent influx of men that either go to jail or x y and z because of whatever government

04:10:56.300 scheme that is targeting this demographic of people to be able to make their their fathers go to jail get

04:11:02.300 caught up in drugs and then now you have you know or they just leave and and create another family you

04:11:08.620 know but at the end of the day you're creating fatherless homes and leaving the mother to be by

04:11:13.420 herself with the children right but i would argue that there's a lot more men who are experiencing

04:11:19.500 the negative outcomes of divorce than there are men who are in otherwise happy relationships with

04:11:25.740 their partners who have children and she stayed at home and he just oh let me just upgrade and find a

04:11:31.180 hotter chick that's pretty rare i've seen their side no look it happens i think i think it's the

04:11:38.940 exception rather than rule that's do we live in a terrible unfair world yes is there is what i'm

04:11:44.460 saying i'm just saying why the state needs to be involved because there needs to be protections

04:11:48.060 because what's worse okay i know it is worse i know it's really bad obviously if she takes you for

04:11:51.900 your money you have to give her alimony or all this crap but having to pay your ex-wife a monthly fee

04:11:58.140 or kids going on the street because their fathers are divorcing their mothers and leaving them yeah

04:12:04.860 which one's worse yeah so more protection altruistically yeah you're right but the fact

04:12:09.900 is a lot of these women aren't just like how can i provide for my kids it's like i want as much money

04:12:15.420 as possible which is it exactly and it's vindictive yeah like i said the world is not fair war exists

04:12:22.060 murder is a thing crime is real like i wish it wasn't i wish it weren't the case i wish

04:12:27.980 that having more government would get rid of all of that but it doesn't yeah but i don't think the

04:12:33.500 church could handle it either well how about this so there's a case to be made that in the scenario

04:12:38.620 you provided where the woman disregards pursuing a career she's stay at home she raises a bunch of

04:12:44.860 kids right so let's say in that scenario um that um you know 10 years down the road they get divorced

04:12:52.620 whoever initiates it right but let's say that man went on to make without her assistance in any

04:13:01.420 capacity we acknowledge that you know in the household she birthed the children took care of

04:13:06.940 them etc but she didn't help him in any way to go on and let's say he went on to become a millionaire

04:13:12.700 making millions of dollars a year i think what would be fair in the case of alimony and child support

04:13:18.700 certainly if she initiates the divorce whatever her earning potential would have been had she

04:13:25.900 continued pursuing whatever career it would have been i don't think she's entitled to some percentage

04:13:32.380 of his million dollar earning capacity whatever if she was destined let's say she never got married

04:13:38.860 and she was predestined to become a hairstylist whatever alimony i don't choose that one okay what i

04:13:45.660 don't know she was gonna be she was gonna work she's gonna make the average wage she's gonna go

04:13:50.220 in the corporate world let's say she was gonna make 60k a year but her husband goes on to make millions

04:13:55.660 of dollars a year i do think what would be fair is he there could be an argument that he has to compensate

04:14:02.140 her what her uh what she would have been destined to make had she not been married for alimony yeah but as

04:14:11.820 a man why would you not want to your kids to live in a great life exactly she's gonna have your kids

04:14:15.660 most of the time right so whatever you give her i completely agree but child support i feel like if

04:14:20.220 you're a millionaire as a man you should want to be able to invest in your children and that's why

04:14:25.260 you marry that woman that's the mother of your kids okay second i think it's different i think it

04:14:29.740 should be varying if if whoever um initiates the divorce that definitely should be in consideration

04:14:35.420 unless there's proof of like you know infidelity abuse or other things like that but if they're

04:14:39.740 the one is she in the divorce that's completely different so if she initiates the divorce and

04:14:43.500 there's no abuse and no infidelity she should get nothing what do you think about that she should

04:14:47.740 get child support yeah yeah because that was her choice if she's just unhappy in the marriage then

04:14:52.780 that's her problem perhaps a reasonable child support but it's not most most of the time child

04:14:57.660 support they they make it as low as they can child support people not many people men are getting

04:15:01.420 effed on child support they most of the time they like what you're even if your child support is

04:15:05.820 two thousand a month daycare is two thousand a month it might seem like a lot but having that

04:15:09.740 child is always a lot more especially the men who don't have their child children at all so that's

04:15:15.500 one point to it and then two yeah you should want better for your kids anyways and then i had a third

04:15:19.100 point but i forgot and not only that some guys get away not paying child support because they're

04:15:23.500 working off the books and they're making like sometimes five thousand my co-worker did it he

04:15:27.660 35 i have a co-worker who was getting paid under the table the past two years i didn't even know it

04:15:31.580 they were helping him out so he wouldn't get his pay relinquished for but shout out shout out to

04:15:36.300 the men that even if they do get paid under books and they don't want to go through court but they

04:15:40.780 still provide yeah child yeah absolutely that's the dream yeah why wouldn't you want to take care of

04:15:45.900 your kids right like it doesn't make sense you should like court should be the last resort option

04:15:51.020 yeah court should be last resort i think on average most men are wanting to take care of the kids

04:15:56.060 in that scenario in a divorce scenario i think most men are like i wish i had my kids i want

04:16:01.340 to take care of my kids so in this terrible scenario where my wife is greedy and demanding all this

04:16:06.300 money i'm still going to do it because my kids are still going to be taken care of and that's why i

04:16:11.660 think if she's initiating the divorce that's usually where these problems come where men are getting

04:16:15.420 stripped from their money because women are just marrying and divorcing marrying and divorcing which

04:16:19.260 which comes back to my original point i don't think so that's why i believe i don't think the

04:16:23.980 government should be involved in this now is there going to be somebody who takes advantage of that

04:16:31.100 and kicks their wife out puts them on the street maybe but i think that's the exception like how

04:16:36.860 most people aren't murderers like how most people probably aren't violent criminals do they exist yes

04:16:42.540 it's terrible but i generally think in the scenario where a woman gets kicked out on the street with her

04:16:49.260 kids i'm very sure that somebody or some entity is going to come and try to help her out

04:16:56.300 i don't think i think society in general hates to see women and children suffering not really

04:17:04.060 yeah a lot of that i'm figure out i'm not figure out i'm gonna switch gears i'm gonna switch gears

04:17:09.020 here a little bit so uh oh we can pull that up really quick do you have it so we were talking about

04:17:16.780 like schools being indoctrination so maddie was in the class my college success class that basically

04:17:22.780 helps you um we'll come back to go ahead throughout college and it gives you a lot of good advice but

04:17:28.140 this is one of the assignments i came across and this was in a textbook it's a it's college success

04:17:33.660 like 101 or something yeah yeah and then actually i i used to personal development like and a lot of

04:17:39.180 people take this class yeah like most i was there what's that i've never heard it's not it's getting

04:17:45.100 worse over the years girl i'm telling you like not that long ago it's not required but it's not

04:17:50.220 required but a lot of okay so it's not easy credit yeah okay i was like i've never heard this

04:17:54.860 course wait so can you read it maddie so basically gives you a list of more privileged individuals in

04:18:02.300 the world and less privilege and on the more privileged side it says male white heterosexual

04:18:08.460 affluent and english inherently those are all more privileged people than someone who is female person

04:18:13.500 of color lgbtq poor or non-english but that's the indoctrination that we're talking about that's

04:18:17.500 not indoctrination that's a fact it's actually depending on hold on inherently on average on

04:18:23.180 average in america let's not talk about other worlds in america on average right why do we have

04:18:27.980 rules and laws to protect females people of color and lgbtq community because they were less privileged

04:18:34.140 privileged i think protection is one thing but fake news hold on erroneous it would be one thing if they

04:18:39.820 were i get the indoctrinate i do see it sometimes but i just don't think that's a good piece of evidence

04:18:45.180 this is santa barbara city college madison yes okay oh i went to ucs ucs that might be why i didn't

04:18:49.580 see it ucs i wasn't no i i went to uh ucla i went to ucla and the indoctrination not just for

04:18:56.380 gender roles and stuff like this but for also things like marxism like are you a marxist kiko

04:19:04.700 the indoctrination is absolutely insane it's insane it's insane but it also doesn't have to be

04:19:12.540 in the curriculum a lot of people who are teaching it can just like insert it right like oh for

04:19:17.500 example there's blah blah blah blah blah blah and yeah i've had both wait pull it up one more time

04:19:23.340 nick it's also coming from like an like a person who's the teacher is the woman or a man privilege

04:19:28.860 as a person who doesn't feel less privileged as a female and a non-white person it's the only one i

04:19:37.900 i can agree with the only one i agree with is the fourth one yep yeah poor affluent yeah yeah

04:19:44.540 of course right of course on average if we why okay i don't feel like i'm talking this wasn't the

04:19:51.660 only thing that popped up let's talk about if we on average in america let's talk about male and white

04:19:57.340 let's talk about those yes white males are inherently more privileged than a black woman

04:20:02.780 hold on let's start let's start with males black women was like not even that long like what are we

04:20:08.700 talking about right now equity and equality do you know that white people do you know white people

04:20:16.140 were slaves too do you know that oh my god the italians and the irish the longest stream of

04:20:21.820 slavery ever was korea it was like a hundred it was like 1500 years are still in that do you know

04:20:27.420 what slave do you know what the word slave comes from do you know what it comes from what are we

04:20:33.820 talking about right now are we talking about america we're talking about the world i thought

04:20:36.460 we were talking about america in america we were predominantly slaves black people no am i wrong

04:20:42.220 there was white slaves too black slaves predominantly the slaves in america well i mean there was also

04:20:46.780 like black slave owners okay sure okay why are we not answering why are we answering my question

04:20:51.180 predominantly like clico clico listen up i'd rather have kuko kuko okay kuko cucko um you're the

04:21:00.780 cucko you're the cucko uh all right look okay let's start with male you said that males have more

04:21:13.740 privilege than females i said inherently i'm not saying every single man born what do you mean

04:21:18.220 inherently like you want me to pull up the google definition for the what the word means i mean

04:21:23.420 inherently on average on average i'm not saying every single man every single white man that is

04:21:28.300 born has more privilege than me or whatever forget forget white okay just male i'm not saying every

04:21:33.180 male has more privilege than me just from being born but there is a

04:21:37.980 step up that a lot of them are given a step one step up maybe

04:21:49.660 when it comes to privilege right even for example my parents right my mom is a black woman my dad is a

04:21:56.620 white man dad's family millionaires mom's family addicts in east oakland like it's i can go down the

04:22:06.220 list of a lot of people i know and that's just one example of cool you have and you have an anecdote

04:22:11.900 it's okay but that's like here stick to male stick to male that's what okay well i'm saying my

04:22:18.540 all right what if your dad was black and the poor one and and there were drugs involved well that's and

04:22:25.260 your mom was right white and affluent well that's why they have white and they have mail okay

04:22:29.740 you don't have to check off every box and i get what you're saying but the issue is is

04:22:35.100 how do you decipher that because for instance i grew up very very poor so going into college they

04:22:40.460 automatically all assume and give a lot of resources to people of color yet they might have

04:22:45.580 they might have came from a background that was more financially supported than my background yet i

04:22:51.580 had less help and resources i'm so sorry that happened for you but in my school it was all based on

04:22:56.380 income it had nothing to do with if you were black white this it was just based on your income and

04:23:00.140 if your parents let's bring it back to we're going to bring on income people graduating most people

04:23:03.420 of color need to go i do holy fuck shut up okay don't fucking stop because no because no no no i am

04:23:10.620 because no when i'm trying to redirect the conversation you just continue yapping and yapping and yapping

04:23:15.660 she was yapping too tell her to shut up real quick no but what's up so at work the other day i had this

04:23:21.340 conversation with somebody um a hispanic girl that i work with or el salvadorian to be specific

04:23:27.500 made a joke that she was getting her nails done and she loved watching a white woman work for her

04:23:33.020 now another girl that i work with white got really mad at this statement and said that it was kind of

04:23:38.300 reversed racist right but she was using it as dark humor because i'm sure her whole life she heard that

04:23:45.660 people loved watching salvadorians or mexicans or spanish people work their on ass off for white

04:23:52.300 people so she was using it as dark humor what would you guys say about that or agree with or not agree

04:23:59.740 with i always hold a shut up actually so no because i feel like this is a really good conversation and i

04:24:07.820 feel like it is a continuing problem where as soon as people are held accountable for certain

04:24:15.500 things now obviously you have your extremes people who take it a little too far on both sides 100

04:24:20.940 you're always going to have that but like for her i feel like she was just kind of making a joke

04:24:26.700 because for generations she felt that but she wasn't um yes it's a racist statement it's a racist

04:24:35.420 it's a reverse racist statement maybe if she like made a joke to her and was like oh haha so funny

04:24:40.940 the roles are reversed but for her to say something like it feels good to have another ethnicity do

04:24:46.940 this for me because of the historical dynamics of things that is yes it's a racist statement okay

04:24:53.500 explain to me how males have privilege over women

04:24:59.420 i'm over it what do you mean you're over it i'm over you can't tell me to shut up while i'm talking and

04:25:03.740 think i'm going to continue the conversation we can talk about something else but i'm not talking about

04:25:06.860 this anymore no we are talking about it bro every time you get like derailed into these side

04:25:15.340 conversations the reason i told you to shut up is because i've been trying to get an answer from

04:25:19.580 you on this it's not a derailment it's a it's a part of the conversation we were getting somewhere

04:25:23.180 and i might right but if i'm if i'm like coming in cut it off try you if i'm coming in i need you to

04:25:28.540 yield to me so i can keep things focused because if i wasn't even doing the bare minimum to keep things

04:25:34.700 focused bro this conversation would just be all over the fucking place totally understandable okay

04:25:41.260 so answer the question i'm okay no you're gonna answer the question or what brian like i don't

04:25:46.940 have to answer if i don't want to people don't answer questions all the time and you move on to

04:25:50.860 the next person so you can move on and ask them what they don't be butthurt because i'm not shut

04:25:54.860 up i lost my whole train of thought i lost everything i was speaking about let me okay let me restate what

04:26:00.060 you said let me restate what you said then let's go you said that males are privileged over females

04:26:06.620 inherently in through history yes inherently through history okay how when they had the right to vote

04:26:12.700 before we did they had the right to own land before we did they had the right to work before we did

04:26:19.500 anything else the fact that we had to earn a right to vote should say enough about how men are more

04:26:24.620 inherently privileged the fact that we've never no no no okay sorry the fact that we didn't have it to

04:26:29.020 begin with the fact that we've only had we've had what 49 presidents what president are we on now

04:26:34.460 and they've all been all been male oh sorry white male besides one apex policy so it's things like

04:26:40.380 that that show us the fact that these things even exist for a reason which i'm i get what you're saying

04:26:45.580 when it's teaching you oh when i come in i'm teaching it's showing me that i'm so less privileged

04:26:51.500 first of all that's a flaw on yourself because i've never seen those things and thought that way

04:26:55.820 i think if anything it just brings attention to people who might not realize how much privilege

04:27:00.300 they have just from the person they were born as some people don't realize that and it does great

04:27:06.540 justice for them to be able to recognize their privilege and use it for good so it's not supposed

04:27:10.860 to show people oh if you're black or a woman or gay then you're just less privileged and you're screwed

04:27:15.660 i don't know i don't know if we can reference history as an example for this because what about

04:27:21.180 today why can we not reference history because even still here i'll even engage wait wait let me come

04:27:26.940 in i will even fucking engage with you guys historically i'm prepared to say yeah actually

04:27:32.460 even historically men had it worse than women agreed and if you want to look at the apex you want to

04:27:37.580 look at the one percent of men who had power fine we can you want to look at the one less than one

04:27:43.740 percent of men who had power cool that's not about men and women that's about who had power

04:27:48.940 if we're looking at the vast majority of men the vast majority of women i'm prepared to say sit here

04:27:54.620 and say historically i don't care how fucking how fucking far back you want to go men have always

04:28:01.100 fucking had it worse how about that absolutely so get the no no no no no because for a long

04:28:06.220 time in history women weren't even allowed women were privileged women were talked to they had to

04:28:11.580 stay in the house all these rules women had to stay in their place right men decided that

04:28:17.660 it's like that joke okay now women want to you can phrase it as poorly as you want to yeah but

04:28:23.180 no absolutely hold on let mason speak historically okay hold up no if we're talking historically women

04:28:28.780 didn't actually want the right to vote you can talk about it now well because they understood

04:28:33.500 the privileged position they were in a man provided for them to live provided a place for them to raise

04:28:39.580 a family all they had to do was take care of the take care of the home raise children and they found

04:28:46.060 that in extremely true well that's that's just for most of history i feel like if that were true

04:28:51.340 women would not have ganged together to they didn't fight for rights oh that's that's not true though

04:28:57.500 privileged extremely wealthy white men like pushed for women to have the right to vote

04:29:03.340 so they would be in that if men don't want it we can't have it thank you like what no because women

04:29:09.660 didn't want it it's only this recent phenomenon was able for us to get is because white men wanted

04:29:15.260 us to have it so we got it so what does that say well because they're taking yeah because they can

04:29:20.700 take advantage of this there was a there was a different motive than them just wanting women

04:29:25.660 to vote behind them pushing yeah because then all of a sudden if they if they start i'm just saying

04:29:30.860 it only happened because a white man wanted it to yeah which i'm prepared to make historical arguments

04:29:37.020 we can go back let's go back to the 1910s when women didn't have the right to vote let's let's laser in

04:29:43.500 and we were segregated and a bunch of other stuff let's go back to the 1910s this is so women got the right

04:29:49.580 to vote in 1918 i believe or was it ratified in 1920. my years might be slightly off there so would you

04:29:57.820 prefer to be an 18 year old man or an 18 year old woman in 1914 18 year old man really yeah that's

04:30:05.660 interesting because you know what else happened in uh can somebody fix that uh you know what else

04:30:12.700 did the popcorn spill again okay whatever you know what else happened in 1914 what world war

04:30:21.500 one okay i would love to fight for my country if i was a man that's i'm literally a criminology and

04:30:27.660 criminal justice major who's going to fight you realize my my counties and serve them so i think

04:30:32.780 yes as a man i would want to serve my country it's not a privilege to fight in war it's not yeah i i

04:30:39.420 understand you're not saying it's a privilege to fight in war but it's also something that us in

04:30:44.860 our society we we have no grasp over i don't have a grasp over it i've never fought in war i've never

04:30:49.900 seen it um i mean the only the closest thing i can say i've i've seen a dead body and it's not exactly

04:30:55.980 the same thing you would you would assume it would be it's it's a very different experience but people

04:31:01.660 who have come back from war they they know it's an extremely unprivileged position to have to fight

04:31:08.860 to have to go do that and then especially in their case in 1914 being forced to do so um yeah i i would

04:31:17.660 find it extremely difficult to say that in 1914 i would be more privileged to be a man than a woman

04:31:24.300 now i'm not saying i wouldn't go do it and i wouldn't go do it gladly to protect my country 100 i would

04:31:30.060 do that but it wouldn't be a privileged position what happened to free will what do you mean free

04:31:36.220 will all this privilege talk and everything we live in america the land of opportunity like what

04:31:42.380 happened really hard to have a good opportunity when say you're born from a crackhead i i mean

04:31:48.460 i mean you work hard you work hard you work hard but you're definitely placed you have to work harder

04:31:53.500 than someone who was born with a silver spoon here why don't we i mean it's more motivation

04:31:57.580 oh it's more motivation yeah because there's a lot of there's a lot of children that come from

04:32:01.820 affluent families that have no moral guide or purpose in this world because they've been given

04:32:06.940 everything that them on a silver platter you can't that's fine you can't say that someone who isn't

04:32:11.340 born from an affluent family who family is able to help them maybe pay for their college maybe get

04:32:15.740 them their first car versus someone who's born in say foster care holy fuck irrelevant stick to the

04:32:21.340 fucking topic we're gonna talk about male privilege and female privilege so here bro because you guys

04:32:28.460 keep derailing the fucking conversation we were literally like it's totally derailed every single

04:32:33.820 time for 20 minutes but we can't talk about something that has not that i don't love it it was

04:32:37.500 relevant it pertained to the topic it was relevant so look brian was trying to hone in on

04:32:43.580 male versus female privilege and then we started talking about affluent crackheads it's totally derailed

04:32:49.580 because it gets boring okay hold on let me talk about this and we're using hypotheticals and

04:32:54.780 uh statistics to let me back up each other's things like you're the only one tweaking out let me open

04:33:00.540 it up to the whole panel so who's more privileged men or women men men speaking to the mic please

04:33:12.300 um i don't know honestly okay it really depends on what aspect you're talking about yeah

04:33:20.220 true i agree with that it depends okay those are really helpful answers here i'd say men men okay

04:33:31.420 mason uh i would say in today's day and age women i agree honestly i think i would say woman

04:33:39.900 why would you say that um because we have like pretty privilege that's true that's fair that's

04:33:47.660 yeah well put based right what about an ugly girl does an ugly girl have the same privilege as a

04:33:55.500 beautiful woman i guess not in that matter no okay but i think ugly man versus attractive man

04:34:01.500 obviously attractive men have different privileges than an ugly man but and overall like

04:34:05.420 like when we mean like umbrella statement yes that regardless if they're attractive or not

04:34:10.060 men have more privilege but if you're an attractive woman you can have privilege but if you're an ugly

04:34:13.660 woman then what do you get yeah okay so let's go let's fast forward back to modern day so if we're

04:34:21.340 looking at the modern day how are male how do males have more privilege than women in totality

04:34:29.340 you can answer kiko this is hard of talking all right you can talk go ahead i'm tired of talking

04:34:34.060 can we get some other well i don't know if any of the girls want to weigh in on that i don't either

04:34:39.260 while you were making the argument i'm tired of every time i try to make my argument i'm derailing

04:34:43.900 apparently so i'm like no because well i'm asking you a direct question that's the host you start

04:34:48.700 talking over here about crackhead babies

04:34:55.340 you see how that's different pertaining to the conversation but you see how i just asked you a

04:34:58.700 question about the topic we're talking about about male privilege you want to like hone in on

04:35:03.100 little words just because you're a white man you want to focus on the man part when there was a

04:35:06.940 lot of other details of on that list so i'm except he also granted that he said the affluent

04:35:12.140 thing was was a perk like was a privilege yes i've already he granted that i've already so why

04:35:16.380 would that be brought in one of the seven things but why was it being brought up then he agreed

04:35:22.140 with that i'm saying that you're beating a dead horse right now is what i'm saying we've already

04:35:24.860 i'm not beating i'm not beating a dead horse i'm asking you to provide evidence for how men are

04:35:29.420 privileged over women i think you're trying to say history doesn't matter but it does that's always

04:35:34.540 going to be a framework of what we are dealing with for a hundred years it's a real the vote is

04:35:39.420 irrelevant has it been a hundred years is not just the only detail that's been laid out on the table

04:35:44.300 yeah that's what's that voting is not the only detail that's been laid out on the table okay so

04:35:49.820 articulate to me a right or privilege that men have that women don't perhaps as granted by the government

04:35:57.580 can you think of any right that men have that women don't

04:36:01.020 i told you i'm done talking about no you're gonna talk i'm not especially if you're telling

04:36:10.540 me i'm gonna talk about something i'm actually not gonna do it here's a dominant uh disagreement

04:36:15.100 part coming out no it's not happening learn to speak to me and then maybe i will bro you're

04:36:20.460 constantly rude kiko to you i'm really not brian i'm actually pretty nice no you're pretty rude

04:36:25.820 you're pretty rude when i had this whole i had a girl screaming at me i was literally just sitting

04:36:30.380 here giggling but i'm fucking rude yeah yeah there's more than one way besides being like directly

04:36:37.900 for example like if i'm trying to direct the flow of the conversation and you hear me speaking and you

04:36:44.380 just continue babbling on about whatever un irrelevant topic it is yes that's rude especially when we

04:36:52.220 say before the show hey if brian's trying to like cut in and like redirect things get things back on

04:36:57.980 topic yes it's rude okay everyone's having sidebars the whole time well i've usually sat and waited and

04:37:03.580 didn't say anything second of all it wasn't completely it wasn't like i was having a sidebar

04:37:07.260 conversation we were still talking about what was going on and you didn't say okay you said shut the

04:37:11.660 fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up let's go over here there's a certain way to do things

04:37:15.900 actually no because i'll try to cut in and you'll just keep talking and talking and no you

04:37:21.900 will you don't like the other girls i'll give them credit if i start talking they tend to

04:37:26.460 they'll tend to yield but you'll just like keep fucking going oh baby fucking crackheads blah blah

04:37:32.540 blah blah blah blah like holy shit that's so out of context because during that statement

04:37:38.220 we were using hypotheticals she was using a hypothetical just like you do when we're debating

04:37:43.900 to it was irrelevant to the we were talking about race yeah and they were saying that no but

04:37:48.140 does it matter ah we were talking about male female you were stuck on that but nobody else

04:37:53.020 wants to talk about that anymore brian we're all moving past that point no you're you're not

04:37:56.540 we've already talked about it for 20 minutes so why don't you just answer the question because

04:37:59.980 i'm over the conversation well you i think you're actually just cowarding away from engaging in the

04:38:05.900 debate i think i've asked for evidence a lot about privilege not really umbrella statement and that

04:38:11.340 was part of privilege in the like cool statement i've asked for evidence of how solid i'm asking

04:38:18.300 most of the girls don't talk and yeah i'm trying i'm trying to debate something that was actually

04:38:22.620 keeping the conversation going so it wasn't boring here yeah thank you i agree i think what brian was

04:38:28.940 trying to do was trying to isolate one area of privilege and then possibly move on to the others

04:38:34.380 so it's fine we're saying it's taking too long like we've been talking about this for a good like

04:38:38.300 well the reason now we're having a meta conversation because you're being you're you're throwing a fit

04:38:44.220 and you won't just actually my fit i find my more entertaining than that boring ass conversation we just

04:38:49.260 had or you could just engage in the conversation instead of having a meta conversation engaging in

04:38:55.100 the conversation would be if i'm asking you a question asking you to clarify your position

04:38:59.260 instead of being like throwing a throwing a little temper tantrum you could just answer the question

04:39:04.620 i feel like when everyone anyone is told to shut the up or to answer a direct question especially

04:39:10.220 with the demeanor that you did i would react the same exact way i absolutely would because it is

04:39:15.580 disrespectful and i understand talking over somebody is also disrespectful and interrupting them as well

04:39:21.340 but we were on topic and we were talking about stuff the conversation was actually flowing that

04:39:25.500 was actually interesting how about if you're instructed if you're instructed before the show and you've

04:39:30.540 been on the show what five six seven times and we provide pre-show instructions that says hey if brian is

04:39:39.100 trying to redirect the conversation yield to him so he can get people back on point instead of you guys

04:39:46.460 totally going off into fucking anywhere now we're continuing to have a meta conversation so just

04:39:52.860 why don't you engage with the actual question i'm i'm good off this topic now i'm good you can't

04:39:59.100 just say you're good i can't i can't i have free so you're conceding okay so then you're conceding the

04:40:03.980 argument oh god you're just conceding the argument look then i'll just make my point and you can just

04:40:09.340 concede so when it comes to male privilege here's my position upon birth males are circumcised that's a

04:40:19.660 most men most boys excuse me in this country are circumcised upon birth they have their genitals mutilated

04:40:25.420 that's an extremely strong argument for how immediately where's this male privilege they

04:40:32.140 had they can't consent to it and then of course i could bring up the draft forced military conscription

04:40:38.540 that's huge and if we look at just the life outcomes of men compared to women we can talk

04:40:44.060 about homelessness we can talk about uh self-deletion we can talk about incarceration rates we can talk about

04:40:50.380 police brutality police police police uh uh police brutality police killings etc

04:41:01.980 ironically enough i feel like all of those things are also predominantly

04:41:07.180 men ironically perpetrated by men yeah so the whole point is women we get traumatized by other men or

04:41:15.500 things get put on to us by men men your issues things that are getting put on to you are by other

04:41:20.300 men so what's the issue here which proves the point from the beginning wait so it doesn't mean that the

04:41:27.580 men who are getting attacked but killed so it doesn't matter doesn't mean that they don't have

04:41:32.300 it doesn't matter because it's other men they're not privileged no one said that it doesn't matter

04:41:35.980 because of that all we're all you're saying is that it just men are stronger which is a biological

04:41:42.060 fact that can't be remedied it's like steak yes it smells so good oh my god what are we done i'm hungry

04:41:49.020 now i know it's like wafting in terrible it's cold in here too i know i had to put my jacket i have a

04:41:55.820 question then for the whole panel do you think that you can be sexist towards men yeah yeah

04:42:04.140 yeah why not yes absolutely yeah yeah yes can you be racist towards white people uh yeah

04:42:25.660 oh i'm gonna can you come back to me no we can't come back to you i'm actually really curious

04:42:30.140 um like i think you can be discriminatory i think you could definitely be discriminatory

04:42:36.540 i i don't consider it racism i don't i don't believe in reverse racism so what's your definition

04:42:41.660 of racism um discrimination with prejudice behind it you mean prejudice plus power yeah okay

04:42:52.460 like so it's you couldn't be racist towards a white person is what you're saying

04:42:56.700 i could be discriminatory i don't think i could be racist you couldn't be racist

04:43:02.940 yeah i think it's i think it's discrimination

04:43:08.060 if a person of color was in a position to hire someone and they had personal biases against

04:43:15.260 say white people and they didn't hire them based off of that would that not be racism plus power

04:43:20.220 yes i guess yes it would be racism i guess that would be racism yes i'm trying to be open-minded

04:43:35.180 like i'm not trying to just be stuck in my shoes if barack obama didn't want to hire a white janitor

04:43:41.180 for the white house during his presidency because he was white would that be racism

04:43:46.540 i guess so you you guess i guess like it's you're not totally sure if the leader of the

04:43:55.580 free world one of the most powerful nations in the world the president of the united states didn't

04:44:00.620 want to hire a janitor because he's white wouldn't guess that wouldn't the president of the united

04:44:07.420 states be the one who has the almost that's the top of the hierarchy i love how we've had like almost

04:44:13.180 50 presidents you can only pick one right for a certain reason well it's that's why i'm like i

04:44:17.980 i see those stances that i guess that is racism but whenever i hear someone throw out reverse racism

04:44:23.820 it's not it's discrimination so that's why i am very wishy-washy on that okay we'll continue on

04:44:32.860 um can you be racist towards white people i think so yeah absolutely yes

04:44:38.060 yeah but i think it's a lot rare like it would it's more discriminatory than racism i do agree

04:44:46.140 with that that's why i brought up the topic i did earlier okay yes yeah yeah wait oh yes yeah yeah

04:44:55.260 yeah okay okay huh that's interesting kiko isn't that almost racist to say that you can't be racist

04:45:02.780 towards white people that's what you want to call it now is this a global phenomenon like what if i'm

04:45:08.700 i'm talking about i'm talking about america you're talking about in the in the u.s america is so nuanced

04:45:12.860 when it comes to race and everything because since we are such a big melting pot that you we cannot talk

04:45:17.900 about racism and this city anything like that in america on the same scale as globally so if a black

04:45:23.500 person were to say that they hate white people that in your world view that would not be racism

04:45:30.940 overall usually no i guess i i understand how that statement comes off as inherently racist but

04:45:39.900 it's because white people well black okay white person says i hate black people right they'll go on

04:45:46.300 oh because they're ghetto or this or they're that and that when i've only ever heard black people say

04:45:51.660 oh i hate white people because of how they treat us it's not they're like i just hate white people i

04:45:56.700 can't like i'm sure there are people who say that i'm i'm sure there is a black person out there

04:46:00.700 who is like that don't get me wrong but usually it's not coming from an actual form of hate it's

04:46:06.060 coming from um what's that word um did they the hate from how they've been treated by that group

04:46:12.460 of people what let me because you have to remember us black americans a lot of our grandparents like

04:46:17.740 they went through segregation they went through all of this it's not that long ago so it's still

04:46:20.860 very fresh in people's minds okay so let's say a black person had one incident with a white person

04:46:29.340 where this white person let's say they physically assaulted them right um but otherwise they didn't

04:46:35.100 really have any personal um you know there were no familial uh racial encounters with white people

04:46:43.100 that were negative and they had one sole negative encounter with a white person where this white

04:46:49.100 person physically assaulted them although it's not clear let's say it wasn't because you know it wasn't

04:46:55.260 provable that it was racially motivated it just happened to be this white person physically assaulted

04:46:59.340 them um do you think that would be justified reason for the black person to say i hate white people

04:47:07.580 if they got attacked by one sure yeah um

04:47:13.580 no if you put any other race on that but it's they're in their minds they're not thinking they

04:47:19.420 just got randomly attacked by a white person they're thinking they got attacked because they're

04:47:22.380 black and a white person just attacked them because they are black but you were saying that

04:47:26.300 well you were saying that it would be okay to be racist against white people based off of a black

04:47:33.820 person's experience with white people i'm not saying it's okay to be racist but i'm saying i don't think

04:47:38.060 a lot of it's not coming of a place of hate for the race it's coming from a place of hate for what

04:47:42.620 they've done to onto them it's like hating your abuser or whatever it is like that's where i'm saying

04:47:48.220 that's why i think it's okay let me ask so let me ask you a question let's say there's a um

04:47:52.060 but like yeah i'm not saying it's right if black people would just go out attacking white people

04:47:55.260 because that yes that would be racist that would be a crime but that's the action and that's what

04:47:59.820 i was gonna say is i feel like racism is a lot more of the action rather than the word

04:48:05.180 itself because if you would ask me if black people can be racist i would say yes i'm not saying that

04:48:08.620 you can't be racist but i'm saying not just white people but with the examples given i am starting to

04:48:15.180 see a little bit but i just i don't i don't know i don't like everything being i don't know

04:48:25.740 i can't put into words anymore all right moves on let's try to get through some of these chats

04:48:30.780 yeah that one right there is highly interesting funny how women hate when men ask to go 50 50

04:48:35.260 on a date but are perfectly comfortable with 50 50 and a divorce but that's actually a really good

04:48:40.460 fucking point damn the poet thomas the poet oh that's funny that's a good point i kind of like

04:48:46.620 that um i need to write that down i don't know if it's a good point but let me write that shit down

04:48:51.580 bro thomas the poet wow fucking good one i'm copy copy repeat it next episode copy paste copy paste

04:48:59.020 thank you man uh can i have you read this one who me yeah um in the past if a woman wanted to literally

04:49:06.620 just survive on this planet she had to be loyal to a man history is not on the side of modern feminism

04:49:15.260 there is zero proof proof anything but patriarchy works mr ark not mr akonite thank you appreciate

04:49:25.420 your message there i have one for kiara here she loves to read all of you have access to a high value man

04:49:33.900 you just don't like him take a look at your dms even you kitty you know your ex isn't good for you

04:49:40.940 but you hooked up with him again also kiko shut the fuck up damn jordan is on your ass i must suck

04:49:48.060 that i can speak for free and you have to pay to get a comment read huh i know that upsets you

04:49:53.420 meanwhile applying out multiple women i was is this like your ex or something this guy oh no this is

04:50:01.820 my friend jordan since i was like 16 he's a high value man please um that's my friend jordan since

04:50:09.260 i was 16 and i guess he's considered a high value man um how is he considered because he makes a lot

04:50:14.540 of money makes a lot of money um that where the list ends nick did you showed the 50s right i guess

04:50:21.340 we're doing it so many men think they're high value because they have a high bank account though

04:50:24.700 those it's a part of it but it's not the whole we we do agree on some things though some but there's

04:50:31.900 some that we disagree on i love how all these super chats just keep proving our point though that

04:50:38.380 you're wrong that no they keep saying they said we wouldn't have we wouldn't be able to survive

04:50:43.420 without a man or that one says though oh you took it away um not that one but it was saying how um

04:50:51.180 men we gave you guys the right to vote we provided that for you guys we did this

04:50:55.580 okay thank you my point maybe they got nagged into it who knows

04:51:00.300 nickelodeon is it racist or sexist for a black man to run around new york punching white women in the

04:51:05.740 face aoc stfu and go clean up your city that doesn't need to do with racism that is

04:51:11.900 you red pill manosphere not red pill but um okay what are they called incels that's the incel

04:51:18.940 what evidence do you do you have for that i mean an incel movement and why are you why are you saying

04:51:24.380 you no the fact that new york city is a trash heap is because it's democrat it's run by democrats

04:51:31.660 no correlation to what we were talking about and a lot of no i'm engaging with the comments

04:51:35.900 yeah and a lot of toxic man-hating feminists believe in whatever ideology you believe in

04:51:44.780 and are in the universities and are in the universities where they actually have influence

04:51:49.420 over the world aside from my podcast which really has very minimal impact compared to the

04:51:54.700 fucking destruction that university indoctrination is doing which is you go you know the endowments for

04:52:01.420 these fucking universities is like i don't know if it's in the billions but in the hundreds of

04:52:05.980 millions of dollars and they're all teaching feminism and you think i have fucking influence

04:52:11.660 there's a fucking major universe there's hundreds or if not thousands of universities in this country

04:52:17.260 with hundred million dollar endowments pushing feminism and me with my fucking podcast in santa

04:52:23.980 barbara california is doing bad shit i don't know about that checkmate one causes violence the other

04:52:30.940 doesn't that's all i'm gonna say you don't think feminism has fucking destroyed what you don't

04:52:35.660 know about that incels causing violence we're in isla isda are we not oh my god okay incel warrior

04:52:40.860 came from here i've been wanting to go do a little like tour or something bro that's talking about

04:52:46.540 what causes more damage oh feminism wanting to check power to the coochie versus kill all women i don't

04:52:53.500 know which one is more aggressive they're both extremes kill all women no no no actually the

04:53:00.300 hashtag is kill all men oh my god yeah let's talk about we're going back to words having power which

04:53:07.020 is actually able-bodied and not able-bodied to commit like it's the same coin who has the absolute

04:53:13.420 first i'm not saying that that's correct i don't think there should be a kill all men hashtag but who

04:53:16.940 has the capacity do women have the capacity to kill all men or two men have the capacity to kill

04:53:21.820 women which which one seems more plausible or possible to you well realistically if men are

04:53:26.940 just going to kill men well thank you because you no regardless of our conversation here like men are

04:53:34.220 still going to be the stronger sex physically so regardless the patriarchy you guys have more

04:53:39.100 privilege inherently that's a privilege it's just in regards to strength yes i can give you men have

04:53:45.020 a privilege but strength also requires like your necessity to protect those who are not as strong

04:53:52.940 so in that case women are privileged because they get men to protect them take the microcosm of a

04:53:59.420 woman experienced some kind of violence so say a woman's walking down the street and gets attacked by

04:54:04.780 a man generally speaking if there are men in that vicinity they will step in to protect that woman

04:54:11.020 vice versa i don't think generally speaking we've seen generally speaking no li and new york i've seen

04:54:18.620 men are taught now to not do that because they can get injured in while helping i've literally

04:54:23.260 regardless around saying that's why we don't i've seen i've seen the opposite as well in general

04:54:28.380 are you from the south you said i'm from all over the place i'm west coast they're not men are not

04:54:34.060 jumping to help us it's probably because uh feminism is so prevalent in this area i thought you were

04:54:41.340 strong independent women you don't need you don't need to depend on men maybe if feminism wasn't so

04:54:47.660 prevalent in these western areas they'd be more like the south so men here don't protect us because

04:54:53.820 we're feminists no it's because they're feminized so yeah i mean men naturally protect those who are

04:55:01.580 weaker and i mean that's a product of patriarchy which is a good thing patriarchy protects women

04:55:09.900 it's the dismantling of it that hurts everybody bring the patriarchy back i guess what would that

04:55:15.820 look like for you guys you don't know you want you don't want to know what my authoritarian

04:55:21.020 because he does always like say that like that patriarchy is what we need so like what would that

04:55:24.460 look like for you guys are we not feeling like a patriarchy like i don't know like i understand

04:55:29.980 feminism has a really strong hold on society right now and like but like in general like well

04:55:35.180 feminism in essence it is taking leadership away from men and putting it in the hands of women

04:55:43.660 why is that such a bad thing because it produces negatively looked upon well because men are natural

04:55:51.820 leaders because of their dominance because of their strength they're naturally born for the position

04:55:57.340 not saying that women can't have certain masculine attributes but on average men have the capability

04:56:04.460 to do so and if you look in history at female leadership so like say female monarchs they are

04:56:11.180 over like violent they they are more responsible for starting wars or they they start wars at a higher

04:56:17.740 rate than male leaders so it's like they have to over compensate for their femininity like making bad

04:56:25.740 political moves bad leadership moves to over to try to overcompensate for their femininity which is not

04:56:31.500 okay so generally speaking men just make better leaders and better leaders make better societies i think

04:56:38.220 it's because women are very they're more tend to be more emotional and think emotionally and honestly we

04:56:44.540 need people like that so like yeah everyone has their place so you know like men have their job as leaders

04:56:50.300 women should have their job as nurturers as like providing the emotional uh spice of life like

04:56:58.220 honestly life would suck without women would you want to be a woman uh in myself no because i'm a man

04:57:06.140 i have that desire to be a man regardless of all that if god made me a woman yeah because there would

04:57:10.940 be benefits to it but would you rather be a woman if you had a choice like from birth to be a man or

04:57:16.220 a woman what would you choose you too brian i honestly could i don't care you don't care you

04:57:21.740 don't care interesting no because both have their merits right now if i was i was if i was thinking

04:57:28.540 perfectly pragmatically i would say a woman would you want to be a woman brian i'd want to be a man

04:57:34.700 although i think it's a difficult it's a difficult question to answer and maybe we should have the

04:57:39.900 women answer this question too but i feel like you would have to have had the experience of

04:57:46.220 yeah like it's hard for me to say because like if we were born women like would we want to be

04:57:53.580 women i don't know it's hard it's a hard question to answer but yeah i mean yeah what about you guys

04:57:58.380 would you i would want to be a woman it's way harder to be a man you'd prefer to you'd want a big

04:58:04.300 be a bbc i think kiko like i will give it i would want to be a man i don't have to do my hair if she

04:58:13.420 was a man i don't think my nails done hold on kiko you got i'm giving you a compliment kiko if you

04:58:18.300 were a dude you would have a huge one you'd have a giant thank you that's like the weirdest

04:58:27.660 compliment i really appreciate that but it is a compliment right so i have big dick energy you've

04:58:32.140 got big dick energy yeah she'd have a giant all right cut it there like a tripod dude you'd be

04:58:41.180 fucking slaying in the chat excited huge it'd be huge now the trans questions are going to just be

04:58:47.020 skyrocketing through my dms i see it now you know you know who else would have a big cock okay hold

04:58:52.220 on never mind no oh that's weird uh she would have a big cock for some reason i don't know

04:59:00.700 like just a massive why i don't know because you want to reproduce so bad sure that's a genetical

04:59:06.620 great i don't know did you know why penises are shaped like a mushroom it's a scoop oh i know i

04:59:15.340 saw that i just saw that and i looked it up it was actually yeah it's it's true i thought it was

04:59:19.740 bullshitting but yeah it's just it's kind of gross i don't get it though that doesn't make sense to me

04:59:24.060 it kind of makes it doesn't it doesn't make sense like they're having sex that close together that

04:59:29.180 it's scooping out like yeah i don't understand that and also like explain that because what is it

04:59:35.020 scooping out it says in ancient times it scoops out other men's semen so they you have a better

04:59:41.580 chance of getting her pregnant but i'm like after five minutes like if it's if you're up there you're

04:59:46.060 up there and like how quickly like are we doing this like i don't wait do we go around the table

04:59:50.380 on would you rather be a man or a woman um i would definitely rather be a woman because it's like fun and

04:59:57.740 easy um i would that's a really great question i definitely love being a woman but i personally

05:00:04.700 think i would rather be a man because the mindset that i have is needed in today's society in men

05:00:10.780 you'd also have a giant cog i feel like i have a man's mindset huh i feel like i have a man's

05:00:17.020 mindset too but like i don't have to be a man you don't have a man's mindset society needs more

05:00:24.540 not a word out of your mouth has wait uh would you rather be a man or a woman you were a woman

05:00:29.580 a woman you were a man for sure you'd rather be a man a man imagine just waking up i really i

05:00:36.380 really enjoy being a woman okay right having a dick must be so annoying like and when you go

05:00:42.300 comfortable wait we should do a pronoun check right now what's your pronoun what are your pronouns i

05:00:48.540 don't use pronouns there's there's them she her she her she her that bitch she her she her

05:00:59.420 she her she her is the obvious i don't play that foolish game he doesn't play the

05:01:07.340 well i guess it's it when you do that you make it a bigger deal than it actually is

05:01:11.420 like okay it makes it seem like you care more than you should if you didn't care you could just

05:01:15.260 be like well i know i i think it's an important issue yeah that's why i that's why i give that

05:01:20.300 answer i think it's important oh okay no that's okay so i have like three or four more things then

05:01:27.340 we're going to wrap up here so does body count matter yes for a guy or a girl okay how about let me

05:01:37.900 change it do you object or do you think it's insecure for men to care about a woman's body count

05:01:44.540 no

05:01:47.340 no um i don't really know i don't think i should have a say because i'm a virgin

05:01:54.940 you're a fucking liar you're a fucking liar i don't think i don't believe it if you are truly

05:02:00.140 a virgin you have the most like you have you should have the strongest opinion like your opinion should

05:02:06.780 be most valued why but she's not like a virgin because it's like virtuistic to her i think she's

05:02:11.580 just a virgin because her boyfriend's on discord no i'm just making the point that like like she's

05:02:15.260 like like you're in the perfect position to say it i can understand yeah my

05:02:23.340 would you be a virgin if you met up with them in real life wait what would you still be a virgin if

05:02:28.380 like you got to meet them in real life um i don't know wait hold on wait what i just got a dm from

05:02:34.460 somebody's like saying they know you wait who i have a dm from some guy saying saying that you're

05:02:42.220 not a virgin wait what's it hold on do you want to fess up before do you want to fess up wait what

05:02:48.940 does that mean like oh they're bullshitting wait they said i'm not a virgin who is it i don't i don't

05:02:56.220 know if i should say who but no say i got i got some intel i'm getting a little bit of intel here

05:03:10.300 uh if yo if anybody of any homies of hers are watching and you got some intel that she's not

05:03:18.380 but okay fine whatever you're okay i want to know what it says wait question but like so you've

05:03:24.140 done nothing you've done nothing like oral sex no oral sex oh yeah i have oh all right

05:03:33.260 anal no no wait because some girls will like not claim a body if it was like just the tip has there

05:03:41.500 been just the tip no are you looking at me i really believe her i usually don't wait so why

05:03:51.820 why like are you are you waiting until marriage no i just don't find any interest in that and i feel

05:03:57.980 like i would want to have sex with somebody i'm comfortable with and i feel like getting close to

05:04:02.780 somebody in real life is really exhausting and i would rather just be chilling at home on discord

05:04:07.900 having e-sex i really find that way more thrilling she found the loophole to keep a little body count

05:04:15.340 yeah really okay all right um wait body count uh do you do you think it's insecure for men's care

05:04:22.300 about body count no but i also don't think that that's necessarily like something adults like

05:04:30.700 like you like you really you're gonna ask your your girl because you're gonna get disappointed

05:04:34.860 not necessarily wait so you is is your argument ignorance is bliss yeah but i i i don't think

05:04:45.100 it's insecure to care i think it's it's valid to care but you'd be this you'd you're saying a lot of

05:04:50.860 men would be disappointed by the answer yeah okay i mean i don't think you're wrong yeah uh i agree

05:04:56.460 yeah no i don't think it's insecure no you can scoot into the table a little bit that might help

05:05:00.860 we're kind of stuck here right now oh that's all fucked up okay all right yeah staggered now um

05:05:07.740 no i don't think it's insecure um no not insecure nope well okay going around the table what's

05:05:16.940 everybody's body count starting with madison over here if you know you know

05:05:21.100 i know i think i saw a clip of it if you know you know what is it no i told him with your dad

05:05:31.020 you did mm-hmm so did i yeah this is the last time i'm saying it what why i'm in a relationship

05:05:39.180 well yeah but you've said it yeah exactly so many times already the ship has sailed exactly

05:05:43.980 exactly so if you know you know well please don't screenshot what that okay

05:05:52.140 because i was they're gonna say oh brian's doing the roman salute

05:05:58.220 i was doing like a

05:06:01.100 don't keep doing it no i'm doing a gesture i'm doing a freaking like a

05:06:06.060 i don't know i'm very i'm expressive with my hands okay i did it with you so we're going

05:06:09.900 yeah we're good wait this is you said this is your last time okay

05:06:16.460 eight mason zero yeah i said it last time no but okay come on i plead the fifth wait you but

05:06:25.740 you if you are you already said last time just say it 15 i'm not saying it did you say it last time

05:06:31.500 nope range do you want to do range nope less than 10 more than 10 i don't know i don't know

05:06:40.620 you don't know as in like wait hold on hold on here you you don't know no i don't

05:06:53.020 okay give us is it more than 10 yeah but i don't know like

05:06:59.740 wait scoot it scoot to the table a little bit if you can like i'm stuck okay just that's fine that's

05:07:04.380 fine wait so more than 20 no comment more than 30 no comment but i did lose track like i don't know

05:07:13.660 the exact number so and you're wait you said you're 19 right um wait so more than 10

05:07:20.220 but you don't know correct is it over 100 no is it between 50 and 100 i don't think so you

05:07:31.260 you so below 50. i don't know

05:07:37.340 and you want guys to pay for first dates yes

05:07:42.460 oh that's a tough sell for me boys

05:07:45.260 you don't like some god like everyone has a pass so i don't know i feel like evidence to the

05:07:53.420 contrary

05:07:56.140 i feel like i don't know territory is like over 20

05:08:01.100 you don't keep a list you don't have a list um i deleted my list out of sight out of mind wait so

05:08:10.220 god damn maybe a little too long so hold on how much was this how much was it at when you deleted

05:08:17.420 it i didn't count i was like i just i was like man i don't need this list oh my god wait so

05:08:24.060 you might not know the exact number but if you had to take a guess

05:08:29.420 i don't want to do that you got this you got this this is a safe space okay nobody's gonna judge

05:08:37.820 you this is like the girls it's like the girls hang out no no comment no comment i'm gonna leave

05:08:42.940 it at i'm gonna leave it at that i i lost count you're better at saying a number than that if i'm

05:08:47.900 being honest yeah i think it'd be safer for you to maybe say a number yeah for real that's

05:08:52.940 i don't know the number though so i don't because people are gonna be like oh yeah it's like 75 to 100.

05:09:00.620 multiplied by three and that's the real number can you was the when did you when did you delete

05:09:05.340 the list um like last year last year have you added to the list since no so you've been wait

05:09:12.860 you've been celibate there is no list no like have you slept with more people since you deleted the

05:09:16.860 list yeah yeah yeah yeah can you undelete is there like a thing where you undelete recently deleted

05:09:25.580 recently for notes no but it expires 30 days yeah something like that 30 do you think what do you

05:09:32.860 think 30 is like decent what do you mean by decent like is that a decent guess accurate sure

05:09:42.860 you you think that's like around where it is probably yeah bro bro good times

05:09:50.140 i don't know man if a girl has a forgot her body count 50 body count 30 body count she wants me to

05:09:59.340 pay for a first date she's freaky that ship has experience what that ship has sailed you know what

05:10:06.700 i love though what this is a great example i could have used you podcasts ago when you guys always say

05:10:13.340 one of the main reasons you give we like younger women because we like them with less bodies and less

05:10:17.820 experienced well what was my point exactly that don't mean yeah she's a person who's not that

05:10:23.180 promiscuous she's not going to be at 18 versus 28 the girl's promiscuous she's going to be it since

05:10:28.540 the time your argument sort of fails because what's her body count going to be at 29 it doesn't matter

05:10:34.140 though like it's it's still her that's still her so why would you want to be with her even if she only

05:10:38.940 collected eight eggs before she met you she was trying to you know rally up as much as she could

05:10:42.940 that's still her personality and the woman she is okay so what well that's not a bad thing you're a

05:10:48.300 sexual woman you do only okay i'm not trying to just like rack up my bodies though like if you're

05:10:53.580 with around 30 bodies and you do only fans it's not like you're just doing it to like you're just

05:10:56.940 fucking whoever but you're a promiscuous woman yes you are i never said it was 30 and i never said

05:11:00.940 i was a rack you forgot i'm trying to get but you forgot you're 19 and don't know what your body count

05:11:05.260 is well i don't need to keep track like i think i think it's not something that's hard to keep

05:11:10.380 track up like usually it's like you know well i don't know it's like naming like 30 people or

05:11:15.180 however much it is it's like crazy you don't think that's crazy that's the real number i i'm hey i'm

05:11:22.380 all for doing what you want to do but i'm gonna be the first to tell you that is a little crazy at 19

05:11:26.700 for a man or woman i'm not just saying as a woman like that's well i never said it was 30 i'm just

05:11:30.380 i feel like kiko she she's been with men and women okay well you could have had like a weight

05:11:36.860 crazier of body count it's not as a man i feel like i genuinely wouldn't care about body count

05:11:42.540 like and i'm being like so honest like i'm trying to like see like put my like myself in like a man's

05:11:48.380 shoes and i feel like i wouldn't care you wouldn't care there's men that say they care yeah like which

05:11:53.740 really a std test should matter more than okay yeah okay yeah if you had like some diseases like

05:11:58.700 that would matter or like if you ever have like i'd be like okay but even as a woman i care like it

05:12:04.620 doesn't he doesn't have to be virginary but yeah i don't want a man who's slept with all of santa

05:12:10.300 barbara like i have a i have a comment if your body count over 30 you can't be asking man for first

05:12:17.420 to pay for first dates i don't know what are you trying to do it i thought you were gonna

05:12:25.180 wait let's go around the table get everyone's answer on this body count um i'm not disclosing

05:12:31.820 that range do you want to range no i'm in a relationship i'll tell you i've been in

05:12:35.740 you know four long-term relationships i'll tell you that okay um zero but my e-body count was like

05:12:41.260 definitely over like 100 what the dang that's i think that's still not ideal so you've had like

05:12:50.540 e-sex do they pay for that or is it just for fun just for fun they don't pay you at all no she's

05:12:59.260 probably been people probably would and these are you've done with over a hundred dudes you should

05:13:05.260 probably ask them to pay you oh they i should huh i should start charging for it damn what the

05:13:11.580 fuck might as well it's weird because she charges for just photos but doesn't charge for the e-sex

05:13:19.820 kiko what about you one shut the fuck i'm in a relationship i don't

05:13:24.860 you've admitted it before isn't it like 14 or something definitely not it's under 10

05:13:31.900 it's under 10. i remember it's under 10. yeah what about you five oh

05:13:39.260 i believe her she's only she's only down the career path she is because of her fiance so

05:13:43.580 who knows who she was relationship too so remember that for six years like i've only been with five

05:13:48.300 people and she does only fans with her fiance she doesn't ask my fiance and she wouldn't be on only

05:13:54.780 fans if it wasn't for her fiance so who knows the type of woman she was before she met him so i agree

05:14:00.940 if men care about a woman's body count because this is a tweet that you guys didn't bring up that

05:14:07.180 i had tweeted out before but in my opinion the equivalent of a woman's body count is that hours of

05:14:14.060 porn watched by a man that is not the equivalent it is because because the the basis that they go

05:14:22.380 off of about women's body count is it what's the conversion yeah what's the conversion like one hour

05:14:27.900 of i don't know what the conversion rate is but let me answer her question based off of psychology so

05:14:32.780 a man cares about a woman's body count because psychologically and hormonally potentially it it

05:14:38.620 disrupts your your pair bonding ability right um so that's on a like a psychological level well the

05:14:45.100 same thing happens to men when they watch too much porn so to the same exact extent i don't know i don't

05:14:51.980 it's possible because there's men that that struggle with erectile dysfunction um because psychologically

05:14:57.580 they're overstimulated with porn and now they can't pair bond with a woman yeah appropriately so i don't

05:15:03.420 know what the exact conversion is but that is it's not a counter argument it's more of a

05:15:08.060 supplementary argument but you know because men very hype hype on women and women's body counts

05:15:13.660 so much my argument or rebuttal back is you're valid in that you're valid to care about a woman's

05:15:20.300 body count but how many hours of porn have you watched at first i thought you were crazy for

05:15:25.260 saying that but after you explained it that's a valid point it's kind of shocking i don't think

05:15:29.500 women care as much i care like men do though i don't think she's talking about if you care as much

05:15:34.940 or not it's just the psychological basis of the statement it does like the fact yeah no i agree

05:15:39.660 i think watching porn is terrible it can like you said erectile dysfunction and stuff like that but

05:15:45.580 i have no problem with a man caring about a body count as long as his isn't through the

05:15:50.140 fucking roof like just be on par i'm not saying it has to be the exact same as mine there's definitely

05:15:55.100 i think men are kind of allowed a little bit more but yeah don't be caring about what my body count

05:16:01.260 is but then you've slept with all of isla vista like that's that makes sense not gonna fly i agree

05:16:05.660 with that do you guys care about body count i do a man's body count not really it depends like i i

05:16:14.140 don't care what the number is but i also don't want a man that is literally like a whore yeah like ran

05:16:22.620 through yeah yeah like like because to me that says all he cares about is getting like

05:16:27.260 pussy all the time and that's very unattractive like i don't want to be in the club with multiple

05:16:32.940 other women who've been with my man that's weird as hell yeah like walking by past people and they

05:16:38.860 just slept with my guy like that's i like i like like randoms like random we know yeah

05:16:46.940 she said yeah like i said don't go outside like you said he's on the phone with you right now in la

05:16:53.580 play yeah we know how does that why wait so why don't you meet in person um we probably will

05:17:01.100 i think we will where does he live yeah we're wait i'm not trying to dox him what the doxing him we

05:17:05.820 have no idea his name face you say los angeles oh yeah which of the 10 million people yeah but does he

05:17:13.020 live in america yeah okay i hope it works out oh my god thanks um no like this one you haven't seen

05:17:24.540 his face or anything no i have i know okay do you really know what he looks like no i feel like discord

05:17:30.540 is but i kind of like that it's kind of like it's kind of like i feel like guys like look so

05:17:37.100 fine and shisey mess like not knowing what they look like discord you don't show your face or something

05:17:41.180 no you don't show your face how uh i have to read super chat jordan says we do care about women's

05:17:46.620 body count oh can you pull it back up bring her back up

05:17:49.100 do you want to jump around the table if you believe in fem cells what you believe in what

05:17:55.660 in fem cells in fem cells no i believe in fat cells

05:18:01.500 i do i believe in fat cells are real fat cells are real yeah you're right i think the fem cells

05:18:07.340 are fat cells usually i have no idea what you're talking about fem cells are like the female version

05:18:13.660 of incels right he asked if we believed in wait what did you think was a fat cell fat cell i'm not

05:18:18.380 talking about like fat cells oh that's what i was saying no i'm talking about that sounds like

05:18:22.620 yeah that woman online who think that every man needs to date them or they're fat phobic

05:18:28.940 yeah yeah yeah no one has to be attracted to you not saying you're not beautiful for being a bigger

05:18:33.100 woman but just because a man doesn't want to be with you doesn't mean he's fat phobic it means

05:18:36.700 maybe he's not attracted to you yeah oh wait agreed you said that men are pieces of

05:18:43.580 shit yeah why um disavow i don't know you don't know um they just are like all men most men most

05:18:56.220 men yeah what's made i don't know they just have piece of shit mindsets for some reason like i don't

05:19:02.620 know what what's the piece of shit mindset well i don't remember why i said that but there was

05:19:07.900 definitely a reason if i are talking about your discord boyfriends or your ex um i don't know

05:19:14.940 because i'm like talking about your exes then those are not well i mean men aren't

05:19:17.900 shit boys are because those are little boys we're talking about yeah you agree with the statement so

05:19:24.620 why forget the context in which it was said just why do you think that i don't think all men are

05:19:30.700 pieces of shit but they're definitely yeah most like it's definitely easier for a man to be a piece

05:19:36.060 of shit like this just like naturally it's it's what naturally what they're just naturally pieces

05:19:41.740 of shit men are naturally they're just i don't know that's a bit of a sexist bold sexist statement

05:19:47.820 right there i don't care huh you heard it here there folks you heard it first here folks

05:19:55.740 do you have a brother yeah he's a piece of shit yes really yes you have did you say you're in touch

05:20:02.460 with your dad or i forgot your answer yeah is he no he's he's not a piece of shit i love my dad

05:20:06.940 how many brothers do you have just one yeah he's a little he's my little brother how old is he like

05:20:11.500 12 you're saying hold up so that's why you're oh come on no no no your 12 year old brother's a piece

05:20:18.460 of shit wow that's pretty brutal to say about your bro you know what hey i guess do you think he's

05:20:26.860 watching the podcast bro his friends probably are and he's gonna he's gonna they're gonna send it

05:20:31.180 to him oh my god my brother's friends do that yo shout out what's your name's aurora your your name

05:20:36.940 your name's aurora yo aurora's little bro you're a legend dude don't let your your big sis over here

05:20:45.020 fucking bully you he would say the same shit about me though he would probably say words i want you to

05:20:49.500 show this fucking clip to your fucking homies in junior high school or whatever the fuck you're at

05:20:54.300 i don't know just go do a kick flip or something or whatever it is 12 year old boys are doing

05:20:58.220 listen don't listen to your sister okay you're a fucking legend you're not a piece of shit

05:21:04.060 and um do you live with your fam still or not no next time you next time you see her punch her in

05:21:12.380 the ovaries for me just kidding i'm kidding oh my gosh i'm kidding it's a joke don't punch her in the

05:21:18.460 ovaries he makes fun of you for it i'm gonna say what's his opinion on it just you know i'm kidding

05:21:23.740 it was a joke okay i wonder if you think his friends don't punch her i'm not advocating for

05:21:27.340 violence i think i'm cute he told like they're definitely uh subscribing then that is fucking

05:21:32.460 justin don't punch her that's not bad yeah do you have to be 18 to sign up for you do but they don't

05:21:37.900 check it we probably should oh check a box are you 18 check yes wait so why why are men pieces of

05:21:43.580 shit though why are why are men pieces of shit okay they're not pieces of shit i don't want to elaborate

05:21:47.420 because i'm bad at that i'm just a woman i'm just a woman what does that mean you're just a woman

05:21:53.580 i'm just a woman i don't want to elaborate like song she gets the pass

05:21:59.180 such a privilege i'm just a girl it's a good song i mean i like gwen stefani sort of kind of

05:22:06.540 that's what that is i was wondering why do i have three cups okay we have to get through

05:22:11.020 i don't know her notes and then kitty's notes so oh notes both of you have had car smash

05:22:17.500 incidences we'll start there so starting with kitty i think that's the last time did we well

05:22:24.380 whatever yeah that was the one from last time here uh so kitty over here with the pink hair nick could

05:22:29.020 you play the video in the media player

05:22:33.420 be able to go f11 or no one thing i have to say since everyone asked this i did not cheat

05:22:43.900 this was you yeah yeah you can play last time this is what he did to her car oh

05:22:48.700 good times

05:22:59.180 you really liked you

05:23:01.260 oh no that's what that looks like uh so your boyfriend did that your ex my ex and then we

05:23:07.420 did ended up uh re-hanging out because i was hoping he was going to do the right thing and maybe throw

05:23:13.180 me some money towards my car and we were hooking up again for about a good three weeks right and uh

05:23:21.180 yeah he went to fucking on someone like a couple like literally like a couple days after and then

05:23:25.820 i told this chick again and the reason that happened is pretty much that's what happened last

05:23:30.940 time like he was living with me and then tried to like smash another girl trying to kind of like

05:23:35.420 get him a place to live good times so i did not cheat that's what happened well hold on time with

05:23:42.860 talking to him we're not going to go back again he really he literally told me to delete all our

05:23:48.940 photos say that we never dated and to sign an nda for him to get me to uh get the money for what he did

05:23:54.380 to my car so we're done with it we're a lot the money's lost right we're not why are you not answering

05:23:59.980 yes i have been trying to girl man you can't speak i can't you can't speak neither but i i'm

05:24:08.220 glad you're trying to help girl ask her her situation my situation is not yeah we'll get to

05:24:15.420 that in just a sec though we'll get to that in just a sec you said that the girl the other girl he

05:24:20.380 was seeing though i don't know if you mentioned this you said it's an escort yep and his whole thing

05:24:26.140 he always likes to say younger women and low body count and all this stuff to the edge of the table

05:24:31.340 wait brian um me and avery kind of have to go we're gonna wrap up soon so just hang tight okay i was

05:24:35.740 gonna say that too yeah me too hang tight guys hang tight we're we're trying to get through this

05:24:41.180 just wait just wait um seeing an escort yeah he likes to he likes to like throw on my face like

05:24:50.620 our bodyguard you guys have a bodyguard yeah is it actually your bodyguard yeah how many

05:24:55.900 followers do you guys have like 20. no i'm kidding we um is he we just made new accounts yeah we made

05:25:03.420 new accounts oh okay uh well well if you guys i'd encourage you to just stay for the last uh 10 15

05:25:12.940 minutes of the show okay guys we're wasting time here okay i'll try to wrap up soon okay you guys can

05:25:18.220 wait for a bit um wait finish what you're saying because

05:25:26.460 oh scoot your mic please please okay okay uh there was an nda wanted to do an nda yeah okay you also

05:25:35.420 said oh well you kind of mentioned this during the body count discussion uh body count shouldn't matter

05:25:40.540 at all just an hiv std test is what should really matter my body count isn't too high it depends it

05:25:48.540 really depends how high the body count is i don't think my body count for the age that i am is really

05:25:53.260 that high and also a lot of dudes like what kiko um touched up on a lot of guys want to say oh younger

05:26:01.100 women lower body count and some younger women have higher body counts than me yeah sure so of course i

05:26:08.300 would i would just say though like especially in this new age bimbo culture so you said body count

05:26:14.300 shouldn't matter it just comes down to stds that's it but wouldn't you agree that for example like

05:26:20.620 let's remove stds from this let's let me just give say a girl who has a hundred body count

05:26:26.940 she's totally clean 100 body count totally clean would you agree though that if she's gotten a hundred

05:26:33.900 body count versus like let's compare her to a girl who has a body count of zero

05:26:40.700 you don't think that there's going to be other impacting things there this is why i say it depends

05:26:46.620 i feel like if a woman has a high body count i feel like she should kind of be with a man that also kind

05:26:52.220 of has the same range of body count okay that's fair all right and then i think we taught tell me if we

05:27:00.060 talked about this last time but you said you were in a relationship with a guy who was your slave

05:27:05.980 a long time ago yeah slave relationship i wasn't i wasn't um in a relationship with him he was just

05:27:11.500 my pet i didn't i didn't date him because i used to be a professional dominatrix like to be kicked in

05:27:18.540 the groin yeah huh i wish i still had the videos i know he would approve me airing it what yikes no

05:27:27.420 he got off on it you said he was yeah some guys are into pain he was the dog and you'd walk him on a

05:27:34.940 leash yeah he had a dog my old job that i used to bartend out in new jersey i would literally chain

05:27:40.620 him up and walk him around yeah my work that is so weird and then the dog caller said what on it um

05:27:48.460 property of kitties if lost returned wait do you enjoy it like did you enjoy doing that to him

05:27:53.100 yes why um one he enjoyed it you didn't like cringed out or anything no because honestly it

05:28:01.260 felt empowering because some men like to be little women did he pay you yeah yeah she wasn't doing it

05:28:07.020 for professional dom you get paid and a pretty good amount like i used to work i used to work in new

05:28:12.060 york study um pandora's box it's like a professional dungeon like there's no sex involved so it's legal

05:28:19.580 there you said that you would would you say that there's like a good percentage of men that are into

05:28:25.020 dominatrix them being very like alpha in their normal life or like a business like person or are

05:28:31.340 they more like scrawny little like no it it varies there's some dudes that you wouldn't expect expect

05:28:37.580 being into it right so it's very all over the place like attractive dudes too i'm gonna be honest

05:28:44.940 i had a really hot firefighter that was in the odk which that's where you like pull down their pants

05:28:50.460 and slap their butt and tell them they've been like a bad boy he had like the babysitter kink

05:28:54.620 and he was hot he was fine did they pay you this is this is what oh no i got paid to men's minds

05:29:02.300 i got paid and like more than only fans girls absolutely yeah because like the usually and i

05:29:09.820 don't know if this is still the case but in new york too usually just to meet with the dominatrix

05:29:16.700 like to discuss the transaction or the boundaries or what they're into the lowest you pay is 700 and

05:29:25.180 that's just for the meat alone it's the consultation just the consultation and depending on the kink or

05:29:30.620 the fetish or what they're getting it is up in the thousands thousands thousands it's very nice

05:29:37.420 there's there's even a kidnapping fetish which is a good 5 000 what's her name bella that one

05:29:44.140 bell delphine no i think it was the other one that maybe was her one of those really big only

05:29:48.460 fan like gamer dress up girls was it her the one that sold the bath water yes but she i've done that

05:29:54.700 but she did a um she did uh like really crazy like kidnapping kink video and everyone was like

05:30:01.020 super mad about it yeah she got like tied up and put into a trunk or something people were not

05:30:06.300 fucking with it what is that cnc consent not consent consent but yeah i think people were mad

05:30:12.380 though because she just posted it on twitter like she just like i mean twitter like what twitter has

05:30:16.860 turned into i mean yeah you can't even read comments on a twitter post without it all being

05:30:24.300 girls promoting their only fans yeah and like straight up porn videos i do not like but elon was

05:30:30.380 supposed to save us right that's a whole different conversation though oh wait wasn't i supposed to pull

05:30:36.380 up a message from jordan madison can you read this one we do care about women's body counts stop

05:30:43.500 comparing bleep that is not a fair comparison how about your only fans and the attention you're

05:30:48.300 getting i don't have to pay two secs i can find your of leak oh he meant i think he's talking about

05:30:54.300 what i said about porn um ryan you were in the bathroom but basically what i said was the take so

05:31:01.180 basically i said you know men care about women's body counts a lot rightfully so which a woman then

05:31:09.420 as a rebuttal i care about how many hours of porn have you watched because i think it has the same

05:31:14.140 psychological effects that having a high body count for women that watching porn which by the way i don't

05:31:21.020 do only fans so go ahead and try to find whatever leak you're talking about but um well what what would be

05:31:26.460 the number that was what we were talking about i don't know what the conversion rate would actually

05:31:32.220 be but there's no denying that porn has psychological effects on men that correlate and are very similar

05:31:37.580 to the psychological effects of women having high body counts i mean i don't deny that watching porn

05:31:43.660 will have some degree of impact on men but you you just can't make this sort of comparison that it's

05:31:51.340 it's it's on the same level as promiscuity who has who has more crazy kinks men or women

05:32:00.700 well i heard pregnant there's this there's this book there's this book yeah true a breeding

05:32:07.340 wait it's called my secret garden my secret garden i think is the name of the book it came out in

05:32:14.700 uh women's sexual fantasies is a 1973 book compiled by nancy friday and uh who collected women's

05:32:25.100 fantasies through letters and tapes and personal interviews and uh bro you guys y'all got some weird

05:32:33.260 fucking shit i mean that's fine so do men sure i mean who who who commits the more more sexual crimes

05:32:40.140 well hold on okay that's no because like if we're talking about the consequences right the

05:32:45.820 psychological consequences you think you think it's because of porn use that i mean i think it

05:32:50.380 does have an effect for some people you think men are more likely to essay women

05:32:55.500 because of porn use couldn't you make escalate psychologically it escalates them to a point to

05:33:01.180 where yeah eventually either either either they do crimes or they get into really crazy watching

05:33:06.380 the crazy absolutely absolutely porn watching porn could even lead to erectile dysfunction

05:33:12.940 and that's not hold on let's let's stay on your your one thing here so you said that men who watch

05:33:19.100 porn are more likely to essay women couldn't you make the opposite argument that men who are deprived

05:33:25.740 of sexual release are more likely to essay women yeah i agree with both statements but i i do i do

05:33:32.780 think that there's more inherent harm in watching porn and going that route i think it's a bit of a leap

05:33:38.860 though to say men who watch porn are more likely to essay women i i think there is there actually are

05:33:45.820 statistics that show that the higher porn consumption leads to more uh essays yeah now i how do you prove

05:33:54.460 that though think about how porn is though okay so we're not talking about grabbing women off the street

05:33:59.580 but like in a situation where it's like say you two are drinking and it's like some men don't

05:34:04.060 understand that's not what women want because oh in porn she loves that or that so i think the

05:34:07.660 psychological um thinking behind it is that's a reach go ahead go ahead so when uh someone's watching

05:34:14.860 porn like it gets more and more extreme to get the same amount of reaction right so once porn because

05:34:21.420 there and this is kind of an argument i would pose against your uh point of view not saying porn's good but

05:34:27.820 once you get to a certain point uh things through a screen no longer have the same effect so they're

05:34:34.780 they want to do stuff in real life the only way they can do that is generally forcefully so um there are

05:34:42.700 statistics that kind of bear that out but then uh to argue against your point yes i think porn is

05:34:49.100 terrible for marriage especially if you're looking for a husband don't find somebody who watches a lot

05:34:53.820 of porn that's it's extremely bad um but i definitely would say that the physical relationship

05:35:01.180 like physically engaging in the acts of sex is like but with multiple people is way way on magnitudes

05:35:09.100 worse isn't it a product of psychology though right like psychology and biology like well yes because what

05:35:15.260 makes it worse like what happens when a woman has a high body count to now not being a wife or wife

05:35:21.580 material like what is it that happens like isn't it a psychological thing like her pair bonding

05:35:27.020 ability more likely to lead to divorce less likely to be able to raise you know children so just

05:35:32.300 emotionally right it's harder for women to emotionally detach from men when they have sex with them it's

05:35:38.380 it's easier for men to detach emotionally when they have sex with a woman not saying that like i'm

05:35:44.060 promoting men to go have sex with a bunch of women but they are psychologically different and

05:35:48.700 physiologically yeah so that's why my my comparison isn't on a man's body count exactly yeah yeah

05:35:54.060 hours watched of porn well but it's not even it's not even close to the same magnitude i'm not saying

05:35:58.780 that obviously porn's bad porn bad but it's not porn bad just like uh women high body count bad and also

05:36:07.500 i think if we don't know one perhaps angle we can look at this if we look at the extremes of both and

05:36:13.180 the impact on the partner so okay let's say the guy is like watching five hours of porn a day

05:36:18.540 extreme porn addiction right that terrible for you bad but okay maybe he has difficulty getting it up

05:36:25.180 and he's got weird kinks or what who knows whatever it may be the extreme the extreme of a woman who's

05:36:31.340 got let's say a body count of a hundred well okay let no let's just use the extreme negative symptoms of

05:36:37.740 ramifications fucking it could be an std she's got a fucking crazy ex or some shit like i mean i would

05:36:44.620 i would i would have i would argue way worse a man with a porn addiction in a committed relationship

05:36:50.380 also possibly might go cheat and and go to explore his fantasies and the fantasies that he develops

05:36:56.060 watching having an intense porn addiction is going to lead to him possibly committing infidelity and that

05:37:03.180 potentially could risk your health for stds but you can make like the the extremes i would argue

05:37:09.340 it's far worse to be promiscuous than to be a porn user yeah and the psychological wait do you do you

05:37:14.460 do you agree with that if we can say that yes i i personally think they're they're they have equal

05:37:21.740 consequences so you think it also depends on what kind of porn maybe that you're watching yeah but

05:37:26.300 if he's watching five hours of hardcore like well but that's the thing is the more you watch the more

05:37:32.060 likely you're gonna be going into like there's some men who have to watch porn or they can have sex

05:37:37.020 with their wife let me ask you this so let's say if we can we can agree that porn is bad and promiscuity

05:37:42.620 is bad okay so let's say let's compare let's compare an average amount of porn usage and an

05:37:50.940 average amount of female promiscuity which is worse they're probably the same you think it's the same

05:37:59.180 i do yeah really i would think that okay so someone who uh so a woman who is promiscuous versus

05:38:05.420 a man who consumes porn the long-lasting effects of being promiscuous far outlast the long-lasting

05:38:12.540 effects of being porn addicted say the man gets off porn immediately and he's no longer he doesn't

05:38:19.180 even have the ability to consume it like after a certain amount of time say it's probably probably

05:38:25.660 about a year like those negative effects go away after a year those negative effects don't go away

05:38:30.940 for a woman i completely disagree with that i think if anything people get over their promiscuity times

05:38:36.220 like a lot of ones people have that couple years phase in their lives and then realize what they

05:38:39.980 were doing versus the effects of watching that porn that much and developing those kinks i don't if you

05:38:45.580 develop those kinks and stuff i don't going back going back yeah i don't know i don't know the statistics on

05:38:50.780 that i would be interested to know the statistics on like if someone quits porn how quickly it takes

05:38:56.140 them to get back to baseline but you don't we do we do have someone who quits we do have statistics on

05:39:01.820 quitting promiscuity so people who have five or more sexual partners in their lifetime have a 20

05:39:09.020 likelihood of a successful marriage we do have that them quitting quitting promiscuity like doesn't

05:39:15.260 affect their success in marriage because maybe they're not quitting so i don't know yeah so we don't

05:39:20.060 know in those statistics maybe the reason why that's failing is because they're going on and

05:39:22.860 still cheating or doing because they can't stop themselves which is porn watchers i haven't met

05:39:27.900 someone who's addicted to porn who's able to stop themselves because it's so much easier accessible

05:39:31.500 than i do have to move things on to the last thing here so i can try to wrap wrap up the show just some

05:39:38.300 of your pre-show notes here we could have perhaps i i'm having to skip over some of yours and some of

05:39:43.660 yours i mean we did start the show late because you guys were late so um and we could have gotten into this

05:39:49.260 sooner but uh you said men really got disgusting over covid for real for real yeah i think that's

05:39:56.060 what i said last time because even um even now in the six months that i've been single and celibate

05:40:03.180 i've tried dating twice even celibate i have for six months not the whole six months but recently after

05:40:09.100 those two bad dating experiences and i'm about to explain why because so you haven't been celibate for six

05:40:14.940 months for you tried to be celibate for six months yeah and i've been dating twice no i tried dating

05:40:23.660 twice during these six months two different people and both times it was very much so

05:40:33.260 like sex forward or sex driven or sex aggravated i would even say what does that mean

05:40:39.100 like their only intentions were to have sex yeah and that was not my intentions going in

05:40:46.700 and i've been celibate since that experience probably like four

05:40:52.540 wait so you were surprised that men wanted to have sex with you not no it just seems like they

05:40:59.260 weren't interested in dating her they were just interested in getting dating her to get into her

05:41:03.260 pants yeah not with the actual point of being with her but just to be with her and even with the

05:41:11.180 guys i've tried talking to because i stopped going out on physical dates after those two experiences

05:41:18.460 um have just honestly been the same it's been very like sex forward sex driven very much so like

05:41:27.900 like i like i say aggravated sexually because it is very like i don't know it feels primal and maybe

05:41:36.460 that comes from past trauma as well so i like feel that way a lot of times when it's very sex forward

05:41:45.020 instead of relationship forward um but yeah that's been my experience especially after covid and from other

05:41:51.820 women that i know as well who say they do like to go out and party or they like to hang out with friends

05:41:57.340 a lot of women and this is coming from la specifically just because that's where i'm living

05:42:01.900 won't even go out anymore and the parties or underground raves or wherever you go a lot of

05:42:09.260 time the rule is women are free look if you guys want to leave then just get out go ahead you guys can

05:42:15.420 leave go i don't need you guys making little faces at each other the past hour if you guys want to

05:42:21.500 leave it's totally fine just go you she's had no time to talk you we've given

05:42:27.260 you guys so much fucking attention the entire show at least be respectful for the last five

05:42:31.740 minutes while she's saying her piece if you need to really fucking leave your little

05:42:35.980 fucking security guard needs to take you back to fucking la kindly go go ahead thank you for having

05:42:41.900 us you can go too you out you go go ahead what i do you were making faces at her she's trying to

05:42:55.500 tell her story i told you guys we have five minutes left of the show you can't just be polite and listen

05:43:01.180 to her without fucking oh my god i can't believe we have another five minutes go ahead i know i'm trying

05:43:06.380 to rush i'm sorry i just have to leave it's already 11. but i feel like also this is a long topic

05:43:12.220 maybe it's for another episode for other people to talk about but i feel like uh in la specifically

05:43:18.220 with the parties has been very like women are free for it to try and get women to come in

05:43:24.300 and a lot of my friends don't even want to go what because there's been so much i don't know are they

05:43:29.420 gone yeah okay what's the fucking film right just let them go it's okay no it's okay i think i got my

05:43:36.300 point across i feel like people who know know what i'm talking about and feel what i'm talking about

05:43:42.780 and i feel like again that also is very influenced by this new bimbo culture yeah 110 because yeah i

05:43:50.460 think a lot of men think that women in general are over sexualized now and that every woman they come

05:43:54.700 across is going to be an over sexualized little demon ready to like go at it and i also think

05:44:00.140 because of covet a lot of people forgot how to be just a decent human being yeah social skills and

05:44:04.540 stuff are very off social cues are very off like even this 18 year old like covet hit when what she

05:44:10.300 was like how old was she in high school she was 14 when covet hit like she hasn't really experienced

05:44:16.060 life or the world at all so like a lot of these people don't know how to act and they didn't have a

05:44:20.140 chance to it's really we're gonna see the effects for a long time yeah and i don't they're not gonna

05:44:25.660 be positive ones they're already not positive ones truthfully i'm endgame with my dude i'm not going

05:44:31.660 back out there you guys will get there yeah eventually they told me on here i would never find a man

05:44:41.660 i'm going to the air force maybe when i get out i'll find somebody yeah for now it's probably not

05:44:46.220 going to happen i respect that though i really do like wait until after you come out of the air

05:44:54.220 force because you know you're not going to have time to commit i do respect that because i know guys

05:44:58.940 even family who like they try and get a girlfriend really fast to wipe up before going into the

05:45:03.260 military yeah for the benefits yeah that's like for the benefits and just to know that they have

05:45:09.900 somebody to come home to and i honestly that sounds nice but it's unrealistic and you're putting

05:45:15.900 pressure on your partner to uh know that you're always going to be there to come home too right

05:45:23.420 it's also short-sighted on the guys side because like you have no you have no man protecting that

05:45:29.980 woman from going out and seeing some other dude and not even just that but you just have no man

05:45:34.060 protecting that woman in general like what are you gonna do start a family and have kids and then go

05:45:38.060 overseas or you know have not be able to be there to raise your family like i just i don't see why so

05:45:45.020 many men i get it it's like to have a life and have a family everyone wants that but i don't know

05:45:50.460 i couldn't have kids and then be like i want to be involved in my kids life i mean like yeah it's uh

05:45:56.940 i i wouldn't be able to have a child and be like peace i don't want to raise you right i feel like um

05:46:02.860 sorry i didn't mean to cut you off i'm trying to rush too because i know other like we all got to get

05:46:07.100 home but i feel like that's also out of fear of not being able to get into a relationship after they come

05:46:12.860 back from being away i really do and they should realize they're even more in a lot of women's

05:46:18.860 eyes more more desirable more desirable exactly the word i was looking for exactly yeah especially

05:46:23.260 because you guys don't have a ticking clock so yeah exactly like you're in any rush

05:46:29.580 uh yeah i mean uh you have nothing to add i could tell by the beginning statement

05:46:36.700 brian's checked out i'm just no they were look they were they were i don't know if you guys i mean

05:46:41.660 they were doing the fucking looking at each other doing i was between them the whole time

05:46:46.300 were they making faces the whole oh no they were like yeah they're playing footsie

05:46:49.820 like everything i just wanted to know why they have they paid a bodyguard to sit outside yeah

05:46:53.660 what the hell is he guarding the door yeah that's crazy oh that's what that guy

05:46:58.700 i didn't see it yeah i know actually that's really funny because i have stopped looking in la i have

05:47:04.620 stopped looking in general because my last relationship even though it ended terrible the

05:47:08.860 relationship itself was beautiful and i feel like he did a lot of nasty things to me in the

05:47:14.860 end but they were influenced by what he was doing in the party scene and i'm able to be friends with

05:47:20.380 him from a distance now i can honestly say he's one of my best friends and i'm in the process of

05:47:25.020 watching him get himself help which it does not happen fucking often it does not ellie has too many social

05:47:32.940 climbers yeah yeah in clout chasers and i would be scared the whole time that if it was genuine

05:47:39.020 or not or something to further their career or whatever right anything you want to add brian

05:47:49.260 what do you guys call that castling what is it called no i don't call it i call that a sparta kick

05:47:53.420 i've been trying not to rage quit no look every time i leave early i gave those two those two there

05:48:03.500 so many passes because like they were doing the little eye looks to each other that starting like

05:48:08.860 two even two three hours into the fucking show i should have checked it earlier but it finally

05:48:14.060 just got to the point then she started coming in and it's like look you guys haven't had much

05:48:18.540 opportunity to speak during the show i was trying to give you a couple minutes here at the end of the

05:48:23.020 show i was literally about to end the show within five minutes but they just had to keep making their

05:48:28.060 little fucking eyes to each other it's just like fucking annoying and it's like look um i know these

05:48:34.300 podcasts go long but if let me i'll just say those two girls that girl there reached out to us to come

05:48:42.300 be on the show they requested to be on the show and it's like i know we have long podcasts you've done

05:48:48.620 your research you know that we go long and actually tonight this is early this was this was going to

05:48:53.660 be a this was going to be a relatively if if i wrapped up the show now which i would have after

05:48:58.700 you know that what five and a half hours i think we're at that's compared at five five fifty uh that's

05:49:05.820 a pretty short comparatively we sometimes we'll go seven and a half the last time we were here it was

05:49:11.660 seven and a half it was so long we left at like 12 35 so um it was like one yeah was it one yeah

05:49:18.300 it was like it was it was late it's like look it's already we did get and we drank champagne we

05:49:25.900 did drink i mean it's like it's it's 11 p.m on a tuesday what else you got fucking going on like

05:49:32.940 give it another five minutes let these girls talk and i'm gonna wrap up the show but like

05:49:36.700 like it's just it's rude to be in my face fucking eyeing each other doing this that eye

05:49:43.740 shit that girls do it's not rude to you really it's rude to her because she was speaking well

05:49:51.180 it was rude to her yeah it's rude to everybody yeah yeah and but they were doing it the whole

05:49:55.900 show too so like i some people are going to try to paint it like just out of the blue like they did

05:50:00.780 one one one little thing and it i fucking exploded i snapped no bro they were doing that the whole

05:50:07.580 night it was fucking annoying and i just but i fucking gave them passes and shit i probably should

05:50:13.340 have checked it but whatever um also it's just like you know it's an look uh it's it's an opportunity

05:50:23.020 to come be on the show um you can see like oh people are want to whine oh i've got to sit there

05:50:30.620 for a long time and have a conversation it's like bro there's men who are fucking doing dangerous

05:50:37.980 dirty jobs day in day out fucking nine ten hours hold on hold on that are doing actually hard work and

05:50:45.980 you want to complain oh the show it's i'm sitting in a penthouse apartment it's uh oh it's so hard

05:50:56.300 fucking well they do only fans sack up sack up these people are fucking entitled they've never

05:51:02.380 done a hard day of work in their fucking life and it's like sack up they're young thank you for

05:51:09.260 giving me this logo i actually really do appreciate it i had a lot of people dm me after the last show

05:51:13.580 and we're like why didn't you talk much why weren't you jumping yeah but there was a lot going on last

05:51:18.060 show and i feel like i don't like cutting people off which is why i usually just sit and observe

05:51:22.860 what's going on but i do really appreciate that thank you hold on this guy somebody in the chat is

05:51:28.140 just saying race race to jesus it's not an opportunity to be on your show and they don't get paid well hold

05:51:36.700 on let me ask you a question sir so i'm not making a comparison that i'm on this level but if

05:51:43.260 for example joe rogan i'm not comparing myself to joe rogan but just to articulate a point if joe

05:51:49.100 rogan invited me on his podcast would that not be an opportunity would i request a no joe rogan you

05:51:56.780 have to pay me 500 to go on your podcast because i don't receive any promotional or exposure benefit

05:52:03.660 from being on your podcast i'm not arguing that i'm on that level i'm absolutely not but there's scales

05:52:09.260 to this shit yeah that doesn't even matter they do only fans so you have your chat sorry chat is

05:52:15.900 full of simps they probably got a good amount of subscribers just from tonight that's money in

05:52:20.220 their pockets that and the exposure enough even like with the fashion line i'm starting and i do

05:52:25.500 things on the side like tooth gems nails hair all of that i've been able to get clientele and more

05:52:32.060 um what's it called status yeah something like that um just from this podcast the last time i was

05:52:38.940 on and i barely said a word that even like that kind of exposure you got some followers absolutely

05:52:46.300 ally was popular on tick tock before she came on here but now she's hanging out with uh what's his

05:52:50.700 name huh she got a new car yeah she got a range chanel louis hanging out with not adam 22 what's

05:52:58.940 the other one aaron or something a lot of i mean look not every girl that comes on the show ends up

05:53:04.140 blowing up but like a lot of a lot of girls who've come on the show have had like opportunities from

05:53:10.060 coming on so like like uh you made a allie you're right i shouldn't say allie hold on yeah she got

05:53:19.180 look we look she had like you said some following before she came on the show yeah she's come going

05:53:26.140 on aiding ross fucking the nelk whatever bought her a like a pink truck or what was it a range

05:53:31.180 range rover what is how much money is that a pink range rover probably a hundred yeah

05:53:35.580 yeah almost six figures it's customized baseline like 90 100 and it was an old one

05:53:43.580 look i stand to benefit too from people coming on the show i stand to benefit too from people

05:53:49.260 coming on the show i wouldn't have a show if it wasn't for people willing to come on i'm not

05:53:53.980 saying that you know i'm giving everything and i'm not getting anything no of course but it's like

05:53:59.500 mutually beneficial it would also be different if you were inviting us to come on rather than most of

05:54:05.180 the time from like what i've heard and what i know that we all come to you to be on well i mean

05:54:11.420 i feel like that's kind of makes it a little different too well no we do both not in every

05:54:17.260 case but we do both a lot of the time we we do both a lot of people reach out to us but we also

05:54:21.980 do reach out to yeah so it's it's mixed in those two girls cases and well the three that i kicked off

05:54:27.980 the show they reached out to us yeah i feel like the ones that complain usually reach out to you

05:54:32.860 wait so did you reach out to raccoon girl no she reached out oh okay i'm pretty sure you said you

05:54:39.900 reached out or she said i don't even remember i'm still waiting for the documentary oh are you talking

05:54:43.580 about are you talking about tamagotchi girl they said no not oh i okay i saw that i saw that and i

05:54:50.380 started following her after because i was curious they said they were making a documentary about you

05:54:55.980 what when that that guy that she dates is like a man who goes around exposing like people what

05:55:02.380 oh i did not know that yeah she was bait that's why like all the comments are like how do you not

05:55:08.780 know who this is how do you not check who her boyfriend is like look at who her boyfriend is

05:55:11.900 don't worry about that yeah i mean i don't care but i thought it was funny moving on um okay closing

05:55:17.420 comments we're gonna we're gonna wrap up the show here guys they they could have just been chipper

05:55:23.340 for the last five minutes of the show but hey it is what it is a lot of people in the chat are saying

05:55:28.860 to take their out they made it most of the show um they weren't being super rude or anything um

05:55:38.220 i was just kind of fed up with it i'm not gonna take their stuff out just uh if somebody's being like

05:55:44.540 if if their conduct is egregious and i have to do a kick then i'll take their stuff out of the

05:55:51.660 description but if they're just you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna take it out the description um

05:55:58.780 and uh hold on let's see let me see so on twitch we're gonna raid somebody who we're gonna raid

05:56:04.460 we're gonna raid let me see um do we rain one sec guys oh super chat sorry we have a super chat here

05:56:14.700 could you pull it up maddie could you read it

05:56:19.260 oh okay braguy do people fail to realize that men paying for everything only became tradition due to

05:56:25.420 women's suffrage patriarchy why would men be expected to pay for someone out earning them in modern america

05:56:32.060 expect that to change soon or fire up the what is that c3po degenning is cheap

05:56:40.460 hmm only came tradition due to women's suffrage not because women couldn't pay for anything because

05:56:46.140 they had no money that's what that's what you're trying to say yeah he just used suffrage in a in a

05:56:52.780 wrong context yeah it's voting yeah so i don't want to read it i don't even want to respond to the

05:56:58.300 oh last thing guys if you're watching on twitch uh guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever

05:57:03.820 drops a follow and a prime sub if you have one drops a follow in the prime sub if you have one

05:57:09.500 there over on twitch on twitch i'm going to raid you guys to somebody um also subscribe to our clips

05:57:14.620 channel whatever second we're trying to get to one million subscribers excuse me uh we're very close

05:57:20.300 guys so would very much appreciate it over there on twitch i'm going to raid we're going to raid stay

05:57:27.340 safe um that should be going out here in just a sec i'll get that going okay gg well played

05:57:35.660 gg well played to the uh panel to those of you who made it to the end here last call hit the like

05:57:41.180 button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world

05:57:44.300 but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who soup chats donates and supports

05:57:48.460 the show we will be live again what sunday 5 p.m pacific we have andrew wilson coming back

05:57:55.260 uh for a couple shows any girls who want to be on the show dm at whatever on instagram if you can

05:58:00.140 make it to santa barbara uh oh uh hold on let me do the raid on twitch so oh seven's in the chat on

05:58:05.900 twitch thank you guys for tuning in drop us a follow on twitch if you haven't yet i'm going to raid

05:58:09.580 stay safe he's playing world of warcraft uh yeah you can pull it up really quick stay safe tv on

05:58:15.020 twitch we'll do that super quick i love these retro cups i know you can do audio that's fine

05:58:21.260 we'll pull it up really quick also no him no him you two are oh damn i've been staring at this

05:58:27.340 all right he's playing uh he's doing the uh he's doing the stranglethorn valley veil

05:58:37.420 oh the fuck i forgot the blood moon events he's playing season of discovery all right i'm rating

05:58:42.700 you over there guys i'm ready you over i'm ready all right i'm bunkering down i'm prepping

05:58:48.780 let's see you keep it here for a sec he needs to go out on a field

05:58:54.300 if you don't go on the farm the whatever podcast stereotypes okay mr brian atlas of the whatever

05:59:01.580 podcast or maybe hey thank you guys welcome welcome welcome how you pronounce it yeah raiders

05:59:06.620 how was it today how was the whatever podcast i've been streaming nine hours so i don't know how

05:59:12.940 it was how was it and a bunch of kicks anyways you can pause it you can go

05:59:18.780 all right quickest way to make seven minutes i can take a look at some of the clips okay i'll take a

05:59:22.460 look all right you can you can pause that all right guys uh oh sevens in the chat good night guys

05:59:28.460 guys we'll see you next time good night guys

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