30,000+ Body Count?! Should Men Marry PRØSTITUTES? | Dating Talk #100 💯
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Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, we have our first guest on the show, Wendy, a 19 year old catering server surfer and college student from the Bay Area. We also have a special guest, Ani Lobert, founder of Hookers For Jesus, a non-profit organization that helps victims of sex trafficking.
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going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead
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um my name is wendy i'm 19 and um i do catering and student too right student yeah okay got what uh what
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are you studying um criminal justice okay do you want to go into law enforcement do you want to be
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a lawyer what do you what are you thinking yeah i want to go into law enforcement okay like police
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officer you want fbi fbi okay federal bureau of investigation there you go all right watch out
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guys okay go ahead um i'm caitlin perry i'm 18 years old and then i'm a server surfer a server oh
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i thought you said server i was like sick i wish rock and roll um okay and are you also a student
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no i'm taking a gap year this year taking a gap year okay gotcha uh when you go back to you know
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what you'll be studying most likely business okay i feel like it's just common got it what about you
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um my name is atlas and i'm a nursing student and i do only fans age oh 55 you're you're 55 years old
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she's not 55 67 what no what's your what's your actual age 30 25 are you just gonna troll or what's
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going on can you give us a real age i was gonna have people try to guess is that okay
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um can you boost the audio a little bit nick uh it seems quiet is it not okay i want to be
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respectful can you i'd like to know how old are you acting are you actually yeah surprising okay
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thank you for wasting 20 seconds of the show's time go ahead hi i'm gg dior i'm 41 and i'm an adult
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film star all right welcome thanks i'm annie lobert and i'm a non-profit owner and founder
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of hookers for jesus and we help people that are drowning in the waters of sex trafficking
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is that you said you said you guys help people that's probably to us uh let's not let's not uh
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s trafficking let's use that yo ftd thank you very much for the memberships um and i'm 55
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55 okay you guys help people get out of that industry nice god bless you guys for that
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i'm air force amy and i'm a world famous legal prostitute i work at the world famous bunny ranch
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and i'm 55 plus okay there you go there you go welcome thank you thank you
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um my name is trendelina i'm 24 and i do data i'm just data analyst okay oh and i have a school
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in cambodia as well in where a school where in cambodia cambodia yes what's what's your school
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in cambodia it's just a school that's in a village it's a bit too far for like the kids to access
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nick put it over to start please so yeah we just opened a school there with a few people that's
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awesome hi i'm amy dangerfield i'm 28 years old uh i've been in the high ticket sales industry my
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whole life but i'm taking a little bit of a break right now right on my name is chase 28 years old
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professional photographer and brand consultant my name is andrew golden uh i'm 23 i'm an electrician
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i uh play a little bit guitar and sing as well full-time electrician part-time giga chad sure
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yeah and uh so you guys might reckon recognize andrew we're gonna pull up the clip here uh nick if
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you're able to pull up that clip i should have it pulled up um let's just say he's a giga chad
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um yeah we could go ahead yeah go ahead maybe you've seen it
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all right there's the clip that's uh that's uh the the man the myth the legend himself uh
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yeah if i may just say as well i saw that clip last year for the first time i saw it again this year
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i posted it to my instagram because i think it's absolutely awesome and i'm stoked to be here on
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the podcast with you bro all right bro what what was the story uh behind the clip where were you
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um like what what's the story there it's really not much of a story it's just a random act of god
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pretty much uh we i'm a christian we do evangelism out at the bars preach the gospel talk to people
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about christ pass out gospel tracks which is just a little piece of paper that has the gospel written
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on it and um so we were walking down to a bar called handlebar and just a random interaction
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like i said hand him the gospel track he asked me that question he's got a camera in his hand
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and there you have it it blew up so i i got a question that clip has gone insanely viral across
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the internet so many people that i know have reposted it what in your experience has the reception
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been to that clip how have people responded it's been actually very positive there i've looked at a
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few posts where people have been negative about it but uh the female attention has been ridiculous i
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can tell you that much but um have you had have you had chicks sliding into your dms like marry me
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uh yeah uh mainly brazilian actually why why do you think why do you think mainly brazilians i don't know
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there was a portuguese version that got like you know that one blew up more than the others so
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i don't know did you like brazilian women sure but they're too far away oh okay um and you're from
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where where are you from houston houston texas okay gotcha and that's where you grew up and that's
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where you still live i still live there gotcha and so it was it was outside of some bar district yeah
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this was houston yeah this was on washington avenue and there's a bunch of bars out there okay did you
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guys have success bringing people to jesus that night that night was so long ago bro like i said it
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wasn't a significant night but uh maybe you know the word goes out and god uses that word to
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you know soften some hearts or harden other hearts so you never know what he's going to do with his
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word yes he does all right rock and roll okay so we're going to go around the table once more
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what is your current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship friends with
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benefits relationship married poly cool sex cult i'm trying to think what other kind of dynamics
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people are involved in these days um you you have a harem i guess uh so if you're single how long have
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you been single and also what's your longest relationship you've ever been in starting with
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you go ahead um i'm single i've been single for three months three months um
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what was the longest relationship oh my longest relationship was four years four years gotcha so
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it's like a high school relationship basically yeah basically yeah gotcha uh why did four-year
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relationship why did it end why'd he dump you i dumped it oh okay my bad my bad okay um why did you dump
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him after four years um because he kept cheating so oh yikes sorry to hear that damn kept cheating
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so you found out one time i've been finding out yeah but you forgave him but he kept doing it
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how long did he keep it up for before you broke it off
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the whole four years about three years are you serious yeah so you found out like a year into it
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and he just kept doing it for three years i found out like the second year and then the third year he
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did again so that's when i'm like i was living with him so i just like literally called him my uncle i'm
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like i packed up everything one day i packed up everything one day and i just left wait hold on you
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were living with him and you called him your uncle no i said my aunt i called my uncle to come bring
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his truck yeah i'm sorry no no no no your uncle i was like is that illegal no no but you were living
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with your boyfriend during high school okay gotcha um how did that come to be um did you run away
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from home or no i left home because it was just like separate things that was going on there and then i
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just couldn't do like i did the same thing i did to him i just packed up my things and i just i just
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left after the how many times did you catch him cheating i only um hold on let's do something like
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three times i think three times yeah damn sorry to hear that um did you ever cheat on him or you were
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oh whoops okay until what um i found out the second time okay and then were you guys just like
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mutually cheating on one another until no i just fooled around no after that like
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i think like the third year we just stopped talking to each other but we still lived in the same house
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so it was weird but um that's super weird yeah it was weird and then no and then we started talking
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to each other again and then i just couldn't take it no more so i just left wow wait so how long
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were you living together for the whole relationship three years um three years yeah okay so when he
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would cheat on you would he bring women to no he was always gone during the weekends yeah okay i see
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but i always thought i was like because he was with his friends but i was like sure i was a naive
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yeah so when you would get i guess revenge on him would you bring the like if you cheated would
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you go to the guy's house or would you bring him back to your place i'll go to the guy's house okay
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all right gotcha okay uh what about you um i'm single uh i've been single for six months and then
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my longest relationship was three and a half years okay also uh high school why did that end
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why did he dump you i dumped him oh kind of kind of similar uh but he cheated on me a lot of times
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a lot of times oh like probably over 30 times 30 oh he had three different relationships while with
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me damn yikes yeah how'd that feel not great but i guess the question for both of you why did you
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stay with them after not just one two but multiple times they've cheated on you because that was dumb
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no don't say that was he just like giga chad like super attractive oh no no mine was ugly
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mine was ugly oh wow okay and i shouldn't have um were they just funny is that what i don't i
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good personality issues i guess yeah i just felt the need to like have company all the time i think
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i just needed to leave was it the comfort like it's sometimes it's more comfortable being in a
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relationship than even if it's not the best relationship than yeah breaking up going through
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the heartbreak being single yeah okay exactly all right okay uh and you've both been you've been
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single for three months you've been singles for six months uh you both do you guys live in this area
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or do you live yeah okay i'm a born and raised in santa barbara oh you're from santa barbara are you
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from santa barbara too uh i'm from san diego but i moved here like three weeks ago maybe a month
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all right welcome welcome well uh i've heard from some of the like you know college girls that
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they're not fans of the college men is that yeah no no like them why not we don't like them why not
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they're groupies they're groupies i mean like they be i don't know are they they see you with
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your home girls and then the next party they try to be with one of your home girls you know
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and it's like girl code you know i was like i don't know okay they they're for the streets
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yeah okay for the streets okay all right did you have any thoughts on the college boys you've met so
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far or like them dislike them i just don't really care indifferent i don't know okay like whatever
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you're you're gonna become a nun oh no okay sorry i just heard i just said they're like whatever
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they're like whatever okay yeah okay i don't know all right sure what about you uh single and my
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longest relationship was seven years all right seven years um how long have you been single for
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a year one year okay why did it end the last one yeah or the seven-year relationship um the seven-year
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one you would have to ask him were you married no okay wait you said you you would have to ask him
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do you not know why he just ghosted you and no um gosh i wouldn't even know where to start he actually
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broke up with me like two months before he got out of prison or before he got out of prison
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but wait what was he in prison for what was he not in prison for did he did he kill anyone no
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oh okay okay i guess that's what he wasn't in prison for yeah yeah wait so you were dating him while he
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was in prison did you meet him on the outside or you like it was a pen pal thing you start sending
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him letters next thing you know you're doing conjugal visits and say quentin that was my question more
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okay no actually we were best friends as adolescents and we started dating after high school
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okay how long into that did he go to prison for like how long had you guys been dating before he
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went to prison oh many years we were kind of off and on though but i didn't really see other people
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he didn't date other people but we would break up and get back together all the time it was really
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not healthy sounds like a good relationship to move on from good for you a lot of jacked up
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relationships around here so far welcome to california bro welcome to california um wait so kate he was
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how long was his uh prison term it wasn't very long it was like 18 months okay might have gotten out at 16
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months i don't quite remember okay i think he just wanted to get back to the streets
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you mean romantically or for romantically and criminally because wow yeah because he knew that
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i kind of typically steer him in a better direction and he did not want to do better for himself he's
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back there now oh he's back in again yeah damn wow all right bullet dodge there your eyes kind of lit
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up when i asked you why the last one ended why did the last one end oh my god oh she's trying to
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avoid with the prison misdirection i don't even want to count that as a relationship because it was
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one month so i don't know if that even counts does that count well it sounds like it ended in train wreck
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what's the story yeah what's the story um it went like a million miles an hour which was the first
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mistake he moved in which i kind of didn't want but i did let it happen and then um
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he lost his job right away um he sat in front of a computer all day played video games was a little
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bit messy didn't want to do anything like quality time wise like i like made bids and he didn't take
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um and he went out all the time with his friends but he had no money to do that so i was just like
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priorities why'd you keep him around i didn't i was trying to think of how like to get out of it
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wait but so you said it was only one month yeah but at what point did he move in with you
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immediately he he moved in pretty quickly and i let him what's what's pretty quickly
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oh i haven't i need to adjust the tts i don't know yo yo
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what up mike davis good to hear from you bro thank you for the offer i uh i already found my diamond in the rough
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appreciate appreciate it there bro all right thank you mike davis good to hear from you guys um just
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uh tts is i must have made a mistake with the tts setting it's 199 and up that but that one came
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through so thank you mike davis um so he moved in right away or yeah how fast what are we talking
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here oh my god like okay first date second date he moves in type of thing not necessarily so within
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two weeks of making it official he was moved in but it was because he was getting another job
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where he was going to be traveling for work and so i i was like he's just going to leave his stuff here
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he's going to be gone for six months and we're going to have a long distance relationship and we're
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going to be able to take it slow in that sense and really get to know each other but he was back
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from that job within like one week like quit it or was fired i'm not sure and so then he was boom
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just there in my apartment how long did he just hang around your apartment like a couch potato
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before you kicked him out like two weeks and i didn't kick him out i just complained enough that
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he freaked out and packed his stuff nagged you just nagged him to death and then he quit yeah
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wait so did you know him before you ended up in a relationship yeah but not very well not like we
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were friends forever like my one before how did they all meet um i met him through a mutual friends
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in at a bar so okay all right gotcha maybe gotcha uh what about you divorced divorced and the longest
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uh shy 20 you were so you're married for 20 years 17 yeah okay we were together for several years prior
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to getting married so we were close to 20 okay you were gotcha you were together for 20 years uh how long
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have you been single four years four years gotcha and so you're you say you're divorced but are you
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are you in a relationship with somebody or just proper single just proper single proper single
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have you had a rebound since the yeah i mean i've dated it's just messy like it's i it's not for me
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okay it's like i'm very focused on like work kids so um oh you have some you have kids yeah one
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two three four oh four kids all from the all from my husband yes okay gotcha uh got it uh did you
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initiate the divorce or did he absolutely why why a resounding yes so during my last pregnancy i found
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uh text messages um that he had an affair and then after and during the divorce i found that there
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were 12 all together wow so yeah over what span of time 17 years so i mean it's not like it's not 30
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in a year but it's it's i mean you're married you're committed there's there's more than just
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like a relationship there so you you found out about all 12 at the same time yes so during how did that
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feel uh that was um it was actually more um sorry um it was actually more freeing than um than it was
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when i first started the divorce because i thought maybe i was ending everything over one um so after i
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um finalized everything during um that time we were all locked up um i went through and i found
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cell phones and that's when all the evidence actually came out so it was very like like yes
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i made the right decision when when you discovered that did it like make sense yes everything like
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you start to like replay everything in your head and you're like okay now when this person said this
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and that's not normal and i would start to compare my my relationship with other people and they're like
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i've never heard that my husband has ever been in a car with somebody else or blah blah blah and
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that was just my norm so i justified it and i made excuses for it and you know you do stupid things when
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you think you're in love so um but yeah it was uh it hurt of course um because you commit yourself
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to one person and you say that this is going to be forever um but you like i did my vows in front of
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god and you know like i like i felt i did it the right way and um you expect them to honor that
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commitment correct exactly and when that's not honored it's definitely um a kick to the gut yeah
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but then seeing that um i initiated the divorce and followed through with it after many times of
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him coming back and saying i don't want you know please let's work it out let's work it out let's work
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it out um finding that it was never ever gonna work doing i did the right thing and showing my
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children that it's not okay to stick around no matter what like you know like you can try and
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you can try and you can try but at a certain point you have to respect yourself enough to stand up and
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walk away yeah that makes sense good for you thank you yeah could i ask you a question of course were
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you doing the adult entertainment uh for the duration of your marriage um so i did uh professional
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modeling during my entire marriage um i've done that since i was in high school right so we moved
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into the adult world after okay yeah okay was that like a way was that like a vindictive thing like
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all right now now i'm gonna shoot porn no it was a survival thing okay um because of again during the
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time where i found all the text messages and everything we were all home and um being a single
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mom at the time uh resources were extremely limited on different things and the other um businesses that i
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had were a lockdown so i started web camming and so that's actually how it all started was just on
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web camming and and only fans um and then it kind of progressed from there so if i may ask how do your
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kids feel about your profession they are i've been very open and upfront with them from day one i felt
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that if this was the decision that i was making um they needed to hear it all from me i didn't want
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them to hear from it at school or from their father or whatever so i sat down um most of them
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are very good with it they're all good with it now it took a little bit of um talking and like you know
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open communication to get them all to understand um the premise and and you know kind of i mean
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obviously i'm age appropriate i'm not gonna tell you know a small kid you know obviously all of the
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details but for the most part um they all know exactly where i go have they ever taken any heat
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for it at school no not that they've told me i mean um i know that there was some stuff that was
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going around the adults at the school but i think because of the small town that i'm from um the parents
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were all for the most part very respectful and didn't like you know pass it down so um they've all
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been very you know supportive and the the school wasn't at first but you know closed minds sometimes
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you know just need a little bit of explanation so yeah so okay uh and what kind of uh content are
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you making is it solo content is it with uh is it with other women is it with other men i do all of
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um so i started as just the solo cam model webcam webcam yeah and then i started solo um only fans
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okay and then i slowly progressed into girl girl and then i had an agent call me about a year ago
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and ask me um if i was interested in doing like mainstream films sure so um i've then since moved on
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to like um studio films where like there's a producer and a director and everybody's fully tested
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and fully consensual all right okay um if i could have you just slightly move your microphone that
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way just it's perfect okay go ahead what about you i am in a current relationship i am married
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14 years now and we met in 2007 over the internet and my husband is oz fox from the band striper
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it's a famous band from the 80s rock band yes okay rock metal and they sing about like a hair band
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they sing about jesus oh so based they uh they crossed over on mtv striper yeah they were famous
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on mtv in the 80s no i haven't i want to look it up i want to look them up after this though check it
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out yeah i've got a new fan here they're hardcore they're 40 years together now oh that's awesome so
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he still performs yes he's leaving actually in a couple days ago on another tour gotcha so i'm
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happily married okay are you like his biggest fan maybe he certainly thinks so do you have to do you
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have to fight off his other female friends uh sometimes there's been several i mean when we first
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got engaged uh he said to me hey i have this friend that used to come and watch me play at this other
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bar in california and he would play with these side bands when his band wasn't on tour and i was
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like oh really and i was at the destiny house watching over the first destiny house which is a
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safe house for women that are trafficked and i clicked him on the phone because i was pretty mad
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that he was going to have a former fan come down and visit but then i decided i'm going to show up there
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and when i see her i'm going to show her the ring so i was in the bathroom and she was sitting
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there at the mirror flipping her hair and with blonde hair i didn't know who she was she's like
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oh my god oz fox is here and he's so effing hot i can't wait to just go up to him and hug him
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and i got out of the stall and i said excuse me sweetheart he's taken and i showed her my ring
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and she backed up immediately and i basically had a threatening stance so i kind of had my old self
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rise out of the grave a little bit i almost got unsaved for a second
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sometimes sometimes you gotta get heated i had i had to confront jesus brought made a court of
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whips went into the temple i mean she understood she was very clear that she understood that you
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need to not go flirt with my husband because i am now engaged wait uh you said you said um you you
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got into your old self i if if i what's your what was your what do you mean by your old self how are
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you in your old so it's one of my alter egos her name is fallon fallon yeah you're you got an
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alter ego well not anymore but she's in the past she's kind of buried right now but sometimes she
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occasionally pops up when i get really mad what what was what was fallon up to what was well
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what was she doing fallon was in the sex industry okay for about 11 years straight i was an escort in
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las vegas and a stripper okay so when you were uh fallon were you like beating people up because
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you sounded pretty ready to well i used to be a dominance mistress no way whips and chains and
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leather were you like whipping like ceos and stuff yes i've heard they deserved it
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that's what they wanted so i mean to me working as a dominance mistress uh dominatrix i enjoyed it
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way better than turning tricks because i didn't have to have sex what was your clientele like was
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it like majority successful dudes because i've heard i've heard like really successful dudes love
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hiring dominatrix escorts i had a lot of they call them regulars and yes they were ceos some of them
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some of them were lawyers judges was it mostly like successful high-powered men or yes why why do you
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think that is i'm fascinated by that you know there was one that i remember that i felt super
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sorry for he would come to the door dressed in drag he would wear his mother's lipstick i'm not kidding
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you he had on nylons and a red dress and then he would tell me it's time to be punished so i would
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make him come to the door and i know some of you might get disgusted with this what what was his job
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he worked at a big law firm okay oh he's an attorney okay yeah and i would make him come to
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the door on his knees uh with the money in his teeth and i wouldn't let him touch me ever then
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would you just like whip them and stuff or whatever he wanted i mean i never had to touch him with my
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hands it was all tools you know chase i think to answer your question what my hypothesis is you have
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these hyper successful men that have to be cutthroat in the business industry uh or their lawyers or
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whatever it is and they're constantly having to be dominant in their professional life and in their
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personal life and their perhaps in their sexual life they want to relinquish the burden of having
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that sort of responsibility and just get fucking domed i guess i that's my hypothesis just sum it
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up by calling it he was abused by his mother debased mind the romans it could also i guess be
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abuse or something she used to choke him with her pantyhose it sounds really wicked right what good
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times i feel like success like in and of itself inherently like produce those results i feel like
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like if somebody maybe comes from like a background of trauma or they go through something like that and
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then maybe they are not properly equipped to deal with the success that they get or maybe it comes
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a little bit too fast or there's various other circumstances maybe something like that would
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manifest but i don't feel like that's an inherent symptom of success no i it but it perhaps it could
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in some individuals perhaps who have some maybe no childhood anything or did whatever it could
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i that's what i've heard i don't know you had something you had something go ahead yeah i saw
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like you're like i saw you on my tiktok feed it was like you were showing around some guy like where
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like um like the different like escort spots like and you're like like you're just saying like a bunch
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of like where the spots were and where like the guys like will often go where they were sit at at the
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bars yes yeah in the big casinos okay and so but now you're not involved in that life uh when did
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you stop i am involved in that well like not not working but saving people but i'm helping people
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uh and uh when did you stop uh escorting or officially stop doing s work so i got engaged actually to one of
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my tricks one of my regulars in may of 1998 i quit the escort services but i had a lot a lot of trauma
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and i ended up doing drugs that next year doing cocaine and then our business failed that we had
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together we had an automotive business that was in japan here in the united states and i was devastated
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because i figured i didn't make it as a call girl i had two traffickers the entire time i was a call
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girl almost i was renegading probably only one year out of that time i was working in the industry
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so i never had anything good to show from it i had a lot of heartache a lot of times where i got
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i can't say the word but you can fill in the blank i got assaulted many times by the men that would
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purchase me and then the man that was taking all the money so i had a broken heart and so at the very
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end i started escorting at the very end the last year it was august 2nd 2003 i overdosed on cocaine
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and then i cried out to jesus and i've never been back since so it's been 20 years hallelujah
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yeah so what was that conversion experience like with god well here's what's crazy when i was a
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little girl i went to church and i loved it i remember getting cupcakes and candy and little suckers and
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i remember saying the prayer that i wanted jesus to be living inside my heart and i brought this cross
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home it was a luthan church and it was a glow and dark cross and i remember putting it up to the
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light at night because i was afraid of monsters it's funny because the world does have monsters
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nowadays right real monsters and i fell away from the faith a little bit when i was eight years old
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because that next door neighbor was abusing me i mean pretty bad and i kind of lost my way for a
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while i confronted my father for his my father was an alcoholic and he was taking pills and smoking
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and swearing so i confronted him about all of it as a little christian little girl going daddy you have
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to stop so i didn't want him to die and so after that he said i'm taking you out of that school it was
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called trinity first lutheran and i went ended up going back in the regular school system and that's
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where i met one of my friends that eventually showed me my other friend that we went out to
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the bars and eventually as a teenager i met our first set of pimps so and i also got assaulted by
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men throughout my teenage years and you know since i was a little child so it was a really really hard
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life if if i may ask what what happened when you cried out to jesus after your overdose what was that
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like well i at the time i was probably dying i had a heart attack wow so the ambulance came and i
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remember hanging on to the emt's hand and i was just like i don't want to die but my heart i don't
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know if anyone's ever had a heart attack my heart every beat that it was making it was going so fast
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every single beat was like a stab of my heart and it scared me so bad i actually faded in and out of
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consciousness but when i got to the hospital the doctor told me i had so much drugs in my system
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that i should have been dead and i had this piece come over me that i cannot describe it's like the
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best piece and the next couple weeks i was filled with this like it's kind of like a lava lamp the how
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the the wax gets hardened when you shut it off but when you turn it on it gets like all googly and hot
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and it's like it filled my body with just this feeling of love and i just wanted to love everybody
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and god started healing my heart and he's still healing me to this day because trauma lasts
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a lifetime i'm not perfect but i'm walking towards you know i i know we have to keep the
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show moving but i just want to say thank you for sharing that it's it's you've had a hell of a life
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and it's miraculous what god saved you from amen uh just one question you said you married one of
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your tricks isn't tricks a derogatory term okay i didn't marry one of my tricks we actually got
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we got disengaged i met my my current husband on myspace yeah different guy okay and i was a
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mother to his yeah i was on myspace such a throwback i had my story on there that's how i met him i met
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him through my friend heather veach and she was uh meeting with kevin max from dc talk you know that
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band dc talk oh yeah and oz was meeting with kevin that night because they were in town making music
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for the band so he found my myspace and read my story and he was like that's it i want that girl
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like she's for me he didn't tell me that until later but yeah i think he fell in love with me pretty
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quickly all right legit what about you that's a tough story to follow it's a tough story to follow
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um so um i'm single and i had the longest relationship i had was like a year and a half
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and it was strange that um i've never had a relationship my entire life until unlike most
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people when when unlike most people when um everything um closed down and a lot of people
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went to only fans and um went to that avenue i actually went in the opposite direction and
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stopped doing what i was doing i was um worked in the legal legal brothel industry for over uh 25 years
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and and i stopped and for the first time i took a break and thought that um it had been long enough
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like 10 months and i said well wow i could probably have a relationship because i never just saw i
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never thought i never saw how i could have one doing what i was doing it just never equated i was
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it just didn't make sense so i went on match.com and i i met a guy and i fell in love when was this
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this was um a couple years ago when everything was shut down um okay match so um people use it still
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yeah well i didn't know what else to do okay yeah yeah you saw the commercial i never i never dated
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or anything like that i just always worked uh and so the 1.5 year relationship is the one that
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you're talking about yeah you met on match.com but that that ended so yeah you're currently
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single back to work gotcha yeah and but so throughout the whole course of your life
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never dated never a boyfriend never what about like a short-term casual thing you know like three
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months two months one one client and i had said that i said that um i couldn't date that i would
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have to immediately get engaged because i just didn't know how to date i don't know how to date
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you didn't know how to date no do you think it was what it was it because you found it hard to date
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because of the type of work you were involved in or but uh when did you at what age did you start
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getting involved in uh what's the escorting court is courtesan courtesan i watched your show last
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week and one of my co-workers was on yeah okay so you said courtesan and actually courtesan is a
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euphemism i looked it up after i was actually wrong there i thought it was like a courtesan i was
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thinking like okay you're in the court of king henry right you're a lord or ladies and you're trying to
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garner favor with the king but it is it is actually i didn't know that so i was wrong but yeah it is
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it is a term yeah um i'm called a legal prostitute sure right i mean wikipedia put a page up about me
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and i don't get to edit it okay it's just there it is what it is i'm a legal prostitute i had a fight
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to put the the term legal in front of it i've been a legal prostitute for over 30 years because
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where do you work the bunny ranch in where is that in nevada is that pahrump or wait no no there
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are um certain counties in nevada where prostitution is legal and is only illegal within a legal brothel
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right and the and the county has to have less than 250 000 residents okay so that rules out clark
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county and washoe county so reno and las vegas no no no so prostitution is absolutely illegal in las
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vegas and reno but in the outlying counties the very rural counties in some counties there are some
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brothels got it uh and uh so i work in lyon county where there are four brothels where
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on my ownership we own kit kat sagebrush bunny ranch and love ranch oh do you have equity in
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some of these or skin and love skin equity okay let's sweat tears and skin okay i got i got a question
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what's what's the proper term for one of your customers uh clients a client okay we're not allowed
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to call them t-r-i-c-k's we're in big trouble what about john's is that illegal marks that's a movie
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isn't it like like like like oh he was he was a john right um if if i have a i'm curious uh if you
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had to estimate how many clients would you guess that you've had over the years i couldn't estimate
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you know that's a that's a common question how many how many guys do you sleep with per day and
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this is so unfair to women because like with guys it'll be like how many girls have you slept with
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and the more women you've slept with it's like oh yeah man yeah i mean more power to you i've slept
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with 400 women in a day you're the man you know you know and but a woman if she slept with more than
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one man in her life it's like you're a whore i'm gonna help you know you're you know you're you're
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stained you know so and and that's just society that i'm more consistent in that area by the way
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yes i i am as well guys will go to hell as well as well as women okay yes yes he's right you know
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and it's just that some things that society has put on in some areas you know people are different
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people operate in different areas in different arenas so it's just this arena and this religion or
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this area says that's not cool but this area operates in a totally this other area operates in a
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completely totally different arena and they're absolutely happy they treat people with respect and
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and honor and love and everybody's happy and there's you know there's no meanness at what age uh did you
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get involved with escorting very young very young i left home there was um incest in my family yes
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there is a lot of women that do end up in my industry so we do get judged quite unfairly
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a large huge percentage sex has been taken has been devalued from the get-go either in their family
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or their neighbors or in school so when you say young do you mean 18 19 no i'm talking in six seven
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eight years old yeah i've heard i've heard that's you know yeah no no i'm taught uh like when you
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started started okay so okay so yeah i'm six seven eight years old we're talking grade school
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tell you know uh no but uh panty shots for ice cream money okay yeah let's maybe avoid that topic
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but um oh yeah but okay so but okay um i left home at the age of 13 and you started hitchhiking around
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the country was that when you began working yes so they called that survival prostitution okay
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damn damn and then you and that was scary that was very very very scary you wouldn't talk fear
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based that was very you know running underneath trucks uh trucks and pockets getting cut out and
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i mean girls getting gapped and it was i mean terrifying were you uh absolutely terrifying were
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there periods of any homelessness i mean you're hitchhiking around the country you're going from
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truck to truck the biggest shiniest truck what's next you know so this is what this is how i heard
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about the brothels so we're going cruising across highway 80 and we're on the cbs back then this
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was way back when the trucker strike was going on it was like cbs and uh um cbs and uh breaker breaker
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one nine it was really yeah it was like convoy 100 it was like you know it was pretty cool but um we
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heard uh with on the cbs i've heard the girls from the mustang ranch calling out to the truckers because
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there wasn't any kind of advertising and and i heard that oh yeah this is a big palace and there's
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beautiful women i'm like oh wow the truck stops are scary i want to go work there i want to go there
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you have to be 18 years old oh man that's not gonna happen so i'll just wait until i'm 18 in the
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meantime i kept hitchhiking around the country then when i turned 18 i joined the military instead
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oh wow which branch of the military air force amy okay yeah oh duh duh yeah air force amy okay yeah so
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and i was stationed at nellis in las vegas and i gave my my superiors an ultimatum i said you
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either cross-train me give me a re-enlistment bonus or i'm going to go down work at the brothels
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and you know they they didn't give me a re-enlistment bonus oh so while you were in the air force you
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were also working no i didn't get a re-enlistment bonus so i went down to work at the chicken ranch
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and i've been working in the brothels ever since oh it's like a safe house it is you know i'm i'm for
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me i would say i'm the exception to the rule i'm kind of institutionalized and at this point it's
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become such a career for me and i feel as though i'm in place because i have survived so many things
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and i am an icon and not an inspiration but um i help the girls i think i'm i think i'm here for
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a reason and i'm not going to say that i'm as religious as you but i am spiritual and i do the
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next right thing and i teach the girls by example to do the next right thing we're honest
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we're open we're not judgmental we follow as many commandments as we can if i may you are inspirational
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so i think you can actually absolutely put that into your so success story and um
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we just try to do the next right thing and we're we're preaching love and non-judgment humility you
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want to talk humility yeah we're doing that and um we're god-fearing jesus-loving american-loving
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god country and and family these girls have these girls have family and and we're just being you know
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we're trying to have a good client base and just have fun and treat people with kindness and respect
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and um a good hug a good cuddle a good it feels good man you know just it's a good human contact
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some good human just good love care and just feel good andrew were you yeah you know when you say you
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love jesus jesus was very clear you could look at the story with the woman at the well who was sexually
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immoral and how jesus approached her he called out her sin and he called her to repent um also uh
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jesus says if you love me you will keep my commandments um that doesn't mean you're gonna
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be perfect nobody's saved by keeping the commandments right we all fall short every day
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all the fall all of sin falling short of the glory of god you're saved by faith in christ but that faith
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is a living faith it causes you to repent and turn away from uh prostitution any kind of sexual
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immorality sexual immorality goes as deep as jesus said if you look with lust you've committed
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adultery in your heart right so it's not necessarily particular actions of immorality
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those are sin but the problem is our heart is our corrupt heart our desires so that's why jesus said
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you have to have a new heart you have to be born again john chapter three and in order to enter the
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kingdom of heaven so you know i understand that it's offensive to say you need to repent this is wrong
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you know um but it's ultimate ultimately a message of love that comes to you and uh you know i'm sitting
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here listening and i'm hearing a lot of broken relationships a lot of broken messed up lives
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you know but this is what jesus came for he came to he came for the horse he came for the prostitutes
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to save them and deliver them from their sin um if you call on him you will be saved but he requires
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repentance and that's what salvation brings is repentance anyways i appreciate your love i do i
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appreciate that i honestly do i appreciate your love thank you i i have a follow-up question to what he
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just said out of curiosity if i got if god offered you a path out of the industry would you take it
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if i could take everyone else that wanted to go with me that's a loving answer that's a loving answer
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all right well uh what about you go ahead sorry did you have a follow-up there or i would just uh
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actually this is a fantastic opportunity because i know there's a lot of people listening especially from
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my audience i would ask everybody that's watching if you guys are believers please pray in jesus's name
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that god offers her and all of the women that work with her a path out of the industry please pray for
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that contact some churches in the meantime can we have a lot of clients uh let's not let's not pray for
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that um actually just really quick really quick before you go i have to read a couple chats here uh
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these are below the threshold but they came in before the show and uh i think this is uh coasting so
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we have klaus von goat yo thank you very much hey brian good show the other day with candace 60 hunter
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he's talking about world of warcraft there thank you uh discuss just kidding uh is the hunter hardcore
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or is it on classic era hey thank you so much man good to see you we also have another one from him
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we have klaus von goat with the 101 that's about to come up i'd like to nominate dr sydney kiki watson to
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the board of directors of brian's 501c three charitable organization blm all in favor say yay all
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opposed nay and bl uh big labia matter okay all right thank you klaus i didn't mention it but that's
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my non-profit anyways i i'm okay we have uh let's see we have oh that's okay spartan hoplite donated
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two hundred dollars thanks bro congrats on episode 100 chase stop being a pussy and co-host the show
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with brian he needs backup brian does his best but is constantly outnumbered it's true this podcast is
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300 xerxes hordes must be stopped this is sparta no mercy awoo awoo awoo uh thank you uh
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uh appreciate that bro thanks for the comment thank you man uh we have mike davis
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oh sorry this one already came through my bad my bad okay um and then let me see okay we're all caught
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up uh what's your relationship situation like um i'm in a relationship it's been one year and five
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months and it's long distance at the moment yeah that's your longest relationship yes yeah okay
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okay oh hey fdg thank you very much for the 50 gifted memberships uh that's my uh sugar mama so
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thank you appreciate it uh just kidding not really um a little underwhelming sorry after all those
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stories um how long did you say it was a year and a half actually okay yeah wait uh where are you from
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because you have an accent um australia but my family is kosovo albanian albanian oh okay all right
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yeah okay nice amy what about you i'm single i've been single for four months my longest relationship
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was four years all right jeez i currently have a wonderful girlfriend been together three months
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and my longest relationship was a year and a half roughly okay uh currently single actually never even
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had a serious girlfriend you know i've had some things here and there we've we've almost had a
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serious relationship but nothing's ever panned out yet so and not looking for any one night stands
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definitely not uh looking for marriage 100 yeah what about what about all these brazilian chicks dog
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not too far away man what if what if one flew to you would you be down sure she came and visits
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can i ask i'm not gonna i'm not gonna pay for the flight how are you looking for marriage like what
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are your kind of techniques for something like that um well i'm trusting god 100 i'm really not even
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looking for a wife uh very hard right now i'm really just focused on the kingdom and and defending
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the faith and i know that ultimately you know god's gonna bring the right one in my path and uh as i
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continue to serve him and seek to you know grow as a man grow uh into the image of christ he's gonna
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bring me the right one i'm not in a rush you definitely don't want to rush this thing and
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that's i think that's where a lot of people get it wrong they they rush relationships what does that
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look like to you like what does the perfect the right woman yeah uh well she has to love god she has
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to uh if she loves god she's going to uh really if she's even if she had does have feminist tendencies
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uh if she truly loves god she's going to you know more conform to his word and even if we have to
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argue a few things out you know she doesn't have to be perfect that's my point right she she may have
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some some problems there but if i can work it out then you know i'll stick with that kind of woman but
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if she's not willing to change then you know when you say change what do you mean be more
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submissive she has to be okay with being submitted to the husband as the scriptures say
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modest not promiscuous um in her apparel in her dress um she has to be attractive i have to be
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attracted to her um that's really it i'm a simple man she's gotta love god she's gotta look good
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yeah let's go so based okay let's go there you have any deal breakers uh
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i don't really think so i mean i think i covered everything if she's too much of a feminist then
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yeah that's a deal breaker yeah about that like some people say jesus was like the first feminist
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absolutely not he told women how to read and empowered them through like hey look nothing wrong
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with women reading i think women need to be highly intelligent they need to be highly educated where
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did you hear he taught women how to read people yeah where they hear that from probably other people
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yeah probably yeah yeah probably no no it wasn't from a feminist um i just think it's like religion
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as a whole is quite like educational and so i feel like he gave people opportunity to read and to learn and
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that's what they were pushing then um you know i really wouldn't define feminism as empowering women
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to read have education or read books um feminism is more the idea of egalitarianism that men and women
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are equal now men and women are equal in the sight of god but other than that we're pretty much unequal
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on every level we think differently we are built biologically differently and so that results in
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societal differences and a different role to play in in relationships you know we can't we can't have the
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same role god designed the man to be dominant and the woman to be his helper in genesis god made yeah
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i would say the best example of feminism in the bible is when uh eve led adam to eat the fruit
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and cause mankind to fall i'm not kidding that's feminism in the bible for you you know it's you
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know what's interesting about that too is the early feminist writers explicitly wrote about how they
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worshipped lucifer for liberating women from the patriarchy of yahweh i just when i think of feminism i
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think of like just equal opportunity education everyone is treated fairly i think understanding
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differences is a part of that as well ultimately ultimately feminism is about uh liberating women
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it was about pushing promiscuity to destroy the patriarchy but the reality is patriarchy is inevitable
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you guys you're going you're going to go you're going to have some guys at the top of this whole system
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and uh even if a woman she wants to be a career woman right she goes out she becomes her own boss
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a girl boss a girl boss ceo she's still either going to be serving well she's not going to be
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serving the heavenly father she's going to be serving the father of lies she's going to be
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serving satan so let's go you're going to be submitting to something
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is that what you mean yeah okay you may not be like legitimately worshiping satan but if you're not
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following after christ you are yeah but isn't like part of christ's service so like let's say her career
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is based around service and love i mean that's a good thing yeah that's that's a good thing but if
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she is really pushing back just because sometimes like when we have these conversations people can
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like say their ideas and it's very generalized and it's not specific and i kind of think like the
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specifics are extremely important in understanding each other i wanted to say something really quick
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i'm a ceo and i've been my own ceo for years and i take care of these women and i don't think a man
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could do it because they're the ones who hurt them and a man cannot be over that house and the
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and the safe houses we have because there would be too much temptation for other things to go on
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because what happens when they start going to church and they start being around men they have
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a tendency to lean into them and try to start a relationship so i'm in my right standing so you
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said guys can't be ceos no no no that's not what she's saying she's saying her unique position is
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one that only she as a woman could fill and i would i would also add to that i would i would add to that
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uh i would add the nuance in the conversation that you are very very well serving god in the position
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that you're in bringing women out of you know prostitution whatever else wherever else they are like
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you're absolutely serving god in that position and i would also agree that a man almost certainly
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couldn't do that same job in the way that you're doing because you are uniquely equipped to have
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compassion for them as a woman that's had the same experiences and stuff what he's getting at though
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see the thing about feminism is there's there's been different waves of feminism right like at first
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it was about empowering women uh with like equal opportunities and stuff you look at it today
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a lot of the messaging coming out of feminism is that men are bad uh the differences between the sexes
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are like social constructs and that like you know traditional ideas around masculinity and femininity
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are bad social constructs that are oppressive and patriarchal right and in that sense that form of
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feminism is absolutely not compatible with god's word because god charges us as men to lead in our
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households right like we're charged with leading in our households we're charged with providing we're also
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charged with loving our wives in a christ-like fashion right but it does the bible does give men
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authority in that way over their household that it does not give women in the same way but that's not
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a bad thing no of course not and like i see it happen in kosovo as well it's quite traditional still
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um but i just was a bit confused about the whole working and servicing and so that's why i'm just asking
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proverbs 31 is where the ideal woman is her characteristics are given yeah and she works hard she does a lot of
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yeah you probably like yeah i see it there as well it's like they don't stop and so i'm not against
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a woman being a ceo if that's you know how i came across and also but but she should not be rejecting
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the family in favor of being a ceo right god designed them to raise and nurture children yeah i think what
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he's getting at is a lot of women that like nowadays a lot of women that are working or in high-powered
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positions because they're making a lot of money they have authority in their careers so on and so forth
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they completely reject the leadership of the man in the home right they view themselves on equal
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footing or instead they they will say no actually i'm going to leave the family and what does like
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the rejection look like so you mean rejects them yeah so i'll give you an example uh in my family
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for example when i was growing up my mom and dad had tension in terms of who was leading the family
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in what direction and there were times you know andrew was talking about the concept of submission
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right this is the idea that when you know when you have a husband and a wife the husband has the
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ultimate authority over the household my mother on a number of different things didn't want to submit
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to my dad one of the areas in which she did not want to was through financial decisions my dad would
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say we should live more within our means my mom was like no we should take these riskier financial
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maneuvers so that we can make more of a profit he would push back against it she wouldn't listen we
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got destroyed as a result of it financially in the 2008 housing crash that was an example where my dad was
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trying to exert his leadership my mom would not submit to it and we got burned as a result does that make
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sense yeah also a question for chase uh if you're uh for when it comes to religion when it comes to
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christianity and it comes to some submissiveness submission isn't it the husband uh is it the husband
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submits to god yes and then the wife submits to the husband is that i don't know if i'm phrasing it
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no that's that's that's correct a woman within christianity and i would say this for all all
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women as well like when it comes to the idea of submission if i was a woman i would only want to
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submit to a man if i knew that he was submitted to god right within the red pill community you have
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all these dudes that don't believe in god they don't believe in jesus and they talk about well women
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need to be submissive but then these same guys are running through tons of women outside of the
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relationship and they hurt their woman right that's not christ-like leadership in a relationship
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as a man if i want to lead a woman and i want her to submit to me in marriage i first have to do the
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job of being fully submitted to christ which means that i'm going to love her with compassion and mercy
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i'm going to be submitted to god's word i'm not going to be committing adultery outside of the
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relationship not going to be beating her you know all that kind of stuff like that's that's that's the
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that's the order the man submits to god and the woman submits to the man god let's open it up to the
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panel here so uh some of you kind of grimaced when um when uh it's andrew right yeah andrew sorry uh
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mentioned you know he wants a woman who's submissive to him do you think that you ought you
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women should be submissive to their boyfriends to their husbands in relationships or are you more like
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i'm more interested in a 50 50 dynamic let's start with you and we'll go around the table go ahead
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what what is a 50 50 diamond like 50 50 you guys both have an equal bill on the first date
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um how else do you explain like 55 i guess you guys like you both take care of the finances you
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have an equal say in the decisions over the home so on and so forth so before my four like during my
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four year um it was 50 50 but it was mostly me doing everything okay you were you did you wear the
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pants and yeah i wore the pants was it like 75 20 or 25 like it was um i was supporting a bum let's
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just say like that well i was like 95 yeah oh you were working and he was what just staying at home
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playing video games type of thing or like we'll work um for like a week and get tired of it
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oh yes okay and so you guys you guys were living together correct yeah and you you were paying most of
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the rent okay so 50 50 and everything yeah so i didn't throw up like how old was he can i ask um
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when yeah when i was so i met him when i was 16 i met him when i was 16 and he was 17 turning 18
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okay yeah yeah romeo and juliet is that romeo and juliet i don't know i don't know i was just
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expecting him to be like way older because i always hear that kind of stuff happen but that's
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okay all right she was anticipating like the dude was like mid 20s yeah i know but after that
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it's now it's like you don't you don't want that you don't want to repeat that sort of relationship
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dynamic that you had with your ex-boyfriend first day i expect you to pay okay all right gotcha
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what's i besides like paying on the first day what would be an example where uh a woman should
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submit to be submissive in a relationship i mean there's like a million different things you could
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point to if you're looking at a place to move a place to send your kids in a relationship um if
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you're setting boundaries in a relationship like if you're telling your woman hey like you can't go
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out to clubs all the time you know like yeah what do you think what do you guys think that's a good
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one i need to know how purses women are supposed to be submissive when there's not a lot of dominant
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men out there in my experience i think and chase i think you've said this before you should you
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shouldn't just submit to anybody you should submit to the right type of guy and chase i don't know if
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you have anything to add to that yeah i mean absolutely that's a great question that's a great
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where where are the dominant men yeah yeah i've not come across any in my experience so far so here's
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here's what i've noticed about women wanting to submit the female impulse to submission is very
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natural when women feel like they can trust a man and they feel like his leadership is trustworthy and
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good and he's strong right if you feel that from a man you're just gonna be like okay like tell me what
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to do like what what should we do most of the time yeah unless you guys like unless unless there's
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something that's the big word safety safe yeah and and like a lot of guys nowadays especially don't
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really know how to lead women they don't know how to do it effectively so if you meet a guy who doesn't
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know how to lead a woman and he's like submit to me you're gonna be like why like your your leadership
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isn't good you don't know what you're doing and then we get the backlash because we're we're like
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they're like whoa nobody's listening well i'm not just following you in blindly like you need to
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explain to me why this is important and why i'm doing this because i i completely agree with her there
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our society is weakening daily with the strength of men yes and i feel that the reason that women are
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getting so much stronger is out of necessity well that's that's part of it part of it there's been a
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sociological push especially in the past hundred years to empower women as much as possible and to
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also tell women that they don't need men right so that's one part of the equation the other part of
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the equation is that men have been demoralized and weakened by propaganda uh there's an assault on our
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endocrine systems right so like a strong man like when you see a strong man and you're like that's a man
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that i respect like he's a man who can lead he probably has higher than average testosterone
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levels right this is the hormone that makes a man a man if you remove this from a man's body he's going
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to become weak if he has enough of it he's going to become strong male testosterone levels right now
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are half of what they were in our grandparents generation so you look around and you're like yo
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there's all these soy boys the reality is you're right biologically yeah soy boys literally all
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these estrogen yeah it lowers a man's testosterone right so women have been elevated told that they
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don't need men the men have been weakened and now there's women like you guys you're looking around
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you're like where are all the strong men right it's a frustrating spot to be in i have a strong man
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there's a lot of women who have a lot of testosterone now too it's it it's an attack on both
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yes there is absolutely an attack on both sexes both on a biological level and also on a psychological
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level but would you say it's more pronounced in men because i mean what i think you have happening is
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like the plastics that are in the water like these microplastics and stuff that causes uh estrogen or
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so a lot of those are called xenoestrogens right so they they're they're like synthetic hormones
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that fit into your hormone receptors this is why a lot of women are reaching puberty earlier than
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they're supposed to like young women nowadays reach puberty way faster than like 50 years ago
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yeah and when those same chemicals go into men they make us infertile they lower our testosterone like
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there's there's all sorts of effects so it's screwing up both sexes but it's primarily feminizing
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hormones and it's not just in the water right it's in like all these plastic products water bottles this
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this cup if i put this in the microwave for like 15 seconds this would leach a bunch of xenoestrogens into
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it yeah like it's this is why the bunny ranch exists because people come to figure out why
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their sex life isn't as robust as it should be oh i'm not sure if that's where we were going
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exactly no but yeah it does affect your sex life yeah and maybe even preference because of the study
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of the frogs yeah i mean there's there's so check this out there's there's a ton of different stuff
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right so if if you go to the store you buy say you buy a a packet of steak for example the plastic wrap
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on top of it that's going to leach xenoestrogens into the steak women on birth control which is this
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is a very interesting thing when women take birth control they've done studies women on birth control
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more often than not prefer men with less masculine facial characteristics really yes
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so women you hear stories about this all the time a woman will go on birth control and not be
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attracted to her boyfriend anymore or she will be with a guy get off of her birth control and then
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all of a sudden she's like wow i'm not sexually attracted to my boyfriend at all there's there's
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a massive assault i wanted to say what'd you say aren't those like like freak occurrences
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i really just okay it's common it actually happened to one of my best friends i got married to my
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husband we went on our honeymoon the doctor put me on birth control and you can ask him just dm him
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i did not want to have sex with him and i was angry at him and i told my doctor get me off this junk
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so she took me off and we were back to normal nice that's see that that's a perfect example you know
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the other thing about birth control too this is crazy so you guys know what pheromones are like the
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things our bodies admit admit you know you smell a healthy person's pheromones makes you more
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attracted to them makes you want to have sex with them so on and so forth a person's you can actually
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smell a person's pheromones and if their immune system is a good match for your immune system in
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terms of producing a kid they will be more attractive to you okay so they did a study where they had men wear
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shirts for like three days and then they put their shirts in plastic bags and they had women on birth
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control and off birth control smell the shirts the women who were off birth control when they smelled
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the shirts they were attracted to the men who had complementary immune systems and the women on birth
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control had they couldn't tell which men they didn't they weren't more attracted to the men with good
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immune systems for them how could they tell if they had complementary immune systems what was the test
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for that they like studied i don't know like their dna or their like microbiome something like that i
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don't know where was the study found where was it found yeah like that just just online yeah yeah
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if you if you look up studies on how birth control changes women's mating preferences there's like a ton of
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literature and it's dramatic uh show of hands who's on birth control currently i think mine is non-hormonal okay
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well yeah there's there are some non-hormones is it the copper iud it's an iud and they just they
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when i went in to complain like well i didn't go in to complain i was doing a lot of research on hormones
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and i went in and i said i want to get my hormones checked sure um they said why your birth control
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doesn't contain any hormones and i was like oh weird i don't know how that's possible how does it work
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then um i think it just blocks the the fallopian tubes from releasing the egg into the uterus to
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get fertilized it's like a little yep like an umbrella with a copper word a copper spring at the
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bottom of it and the copper also destroys any type of implantation okay we're talking we're talking
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we're talking the feminization of men i can draw you a picture i want i want to i want to drop one
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of my conspiracy theories okay so when was when was the birth control pill introduced late 60s i think
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68 what is okay so everyone's getting all freaky it was around the feminine like it was around the
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feminist movement all right so we got all these weak guys nowadays how many generations of women have
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been on birth control when they picked their husbands then came off the birth control and got pregnant
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and has there been for the past 60 years a selection pressure artificially from birth control
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making women choose to mate with men that have more feminine characteristics and are though are there
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ops are you guys following me i'm like that's like multiple general okay so like if if birth control
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makes women prefer men with more feminine facial features women go on birth control they find a dude
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they marry him they get off the birth control they have kids that's generations of women
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picking with men with more feminine characteristics and then producing kids with them i think we're
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doing like eugenics like we want all women everywhere a world of women only but it's not
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not like a world of women only but like it's like it's like a dysgenic like psyop making women have
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more feminine boys who's in charge of the psyop went down i can't answer that question otherwise this
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channel would get if we're on birth control we come off to have children and those children are now the
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boys of the world could that birth control be leading to the feminization of men it's possible
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i don't know like while they're in the worm you mean well like no i'm not you're not taking birth
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control while you're pregnant but the left over effect the residual effect 100 100 so it's possible
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saying that it's leading us to be attracted to more feminine men what's to lead it to not
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um produce that's the point produce a more feminine i mean it it might you know i'm just
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adding to your when women take hormonal birth control it's just brute forcing their bodies with
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tons of hormones and it also can deplete nutrients this is why a lot of women actually become infertile
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after they they come off hormonal birth control all those nutrients maybe you're making less feminine or
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more feminine boys you know it's there's a lot of stuff at play it's possible i don't know once you start
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just like adding tons of hormones to the body though and all of these like poisons in the
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environment like you get screwed up people and also one thing i feel like you forgot to mention
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was like most like boys are not growing up with a father yeah in the home yeah and i think that's like
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really bad yeah it's really really bad so bringing it back to the question in terms of
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do you want to be submissive you want to prefer 50 50 in a relationship i think we had wendy answer uh what about
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you um i think it just depends on the relationship like the person like if the guy's okay with being
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submissive and the girl wants to be dominant okay if the girl wants to be submissive that's fine too it
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kind of just depends on what each of them want what the relationship looks like which do you prefer yeah
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what do you prefer 50 50 you like 50 50 you don't would you don't want like a strong boyfriend who
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wants to lead and you can follow him i want a strong boyfriend but like i want to be able to have the
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opportunity to push back a little bit if my opinion differs like if i want something different and it's
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important to me i don't want a boyfriend that's just going to be like oh no you don't want a tyrant yeah
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i don't want someone that's just going to tell me everything to do because i don't know i have
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my own opinions with everything so here's the the biblical idea the biblical picture of
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dominance and submission this is a loving dominance okay the the example is christ if he's
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ephesians chapter 5 you can go read it later um but it says that husbands should love their wives as
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christ loved the church how did christ love the church he laid down his life for the church if
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you're not you know dating or married to a man that is not willing to lay down his life for you
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it's really not a man you should be with and and then obviously if you as you keep going it says that
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the wife should submit to the husband you know the church doesn't submit to christ the i'm sorry christ
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doesn't submit to the church the church submits to christ just as uh you know the husband wife
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relationship relates to christ and the church the husband picturing christ the wife picturing the
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church so yeah love is the key word there you know it's it's a it's a loving dominance and chase if i
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recall i think you've said that you you don't in your relationship you don't want to be a tyrant
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like you obviously want to be with an intelligent woman and you would want you'd be certainly open to
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hearing what she has to say but i think and perhaps you can phrase it you know i don't want
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to i mean it's it's it's it's like this bro like you know i look at it from the perspective of raising
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a family right creating a family as a man for me to create a family and bring a family into this world
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i am ultimately responsible for everything that happens to it right like i i am the the commander
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the captain of the ship whatever happens to the ship that's on me right and i'm willing to take
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that responsibility now with that said i want a good wife that i can partner with i don't want a
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wife who's like stupid or who isn't going to have valuable input like obviously i'm going to disagree
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with her on things there's no question about that but i want the kind of woman whose counsel i trust
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and if our perspectives differ and we're married i will expect her even if she doesn't understand where
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i'm coming from i will expect her to ultimately submit to what it is that i need her or the family
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to do while trusting that it's in ultimately the best interests of the family like i don't want to
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control her well i guess that that's where i differ like if you guys have opposing opinions like
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that doesn't mean that all the time she needs to be submissive to you yeah i mean she's she's totally
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allowed to disagree and because i love her i'm going to listen to what it is that she has to say
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well what if like what she had was super intelligent blah blah and you guys are arguing
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and she brought up like a really good point would you i mean if i'm if i'm wrong about something and
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she brings up a good point and proves to me that i'm wrong like i would have the humility to be like
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okay you got me on this one great job thank you for telling me that but that doesn't that lead to
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your trust in her counsel it does it's exactly like that's why you would trust that she's the woman for
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you because you would trust that that's why you're with her absolutely i have the ability
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yeah so i have a i have a perfect example have you guys seen the movie 300 oh yeah yeah yes all right
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so in the opening scenes of 300 king leonidas there's a messenger from the persian army that
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comes to king leonidas right he comes to sparta and he basically tells the spartans he's like yo
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you guys need to submit to us or we're going to kill all of you okay and so they're having this
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conversation and king leonidas is there with his queen and as they're having this conversation
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as they're having this conversation uh king leonidas realizes that he needs to kill this man
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but before he kills this man he looks back at his wife because it's a massive decision to kill this man
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if he kills this messenger from the persians the entire persian army of millions of men is going to
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descend on sparta and and attempt to kill everyone it's a big decision so he looks back at his queen
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for her counsel because he knows he needs to kill this guy and she just nods her head and like in
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that moment he knows like okay like my wife has got me on this this is the right decision like and then
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he you know he yells this is sparta and he kicks the dude into into the hole and then they kill everybody
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like you want i feel like as a man yes i had him ready to go like as as a man like i want a woman
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whose counsel i can trust you know like i want a woman who who is intelligent who can see things and
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if if the thing is like with leadership you have to be humble you need humility because if you're a
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leader and you're wrong about something you have to know that you're wrong you know like if i'm going
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to lead my family in a certain direction and i'm accidentally going to lead them off a cliff
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i want to know that i'm going to do that and if my wife tells me that and she can explain it to me
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and she can help me see that like i'm gonna i'm gonna have the humility to be like oh yeah you're
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right and i i want the kind of woman that can do that but if she's wrong about something and i know
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damn well that she's wrong about it i'm going to expect her even if she doesn't agree with me i'm
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going to expect her to listen to what it is that i have to say because she trusts that i have her best
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interests at heart does that make sense yeah uh wait so caitlin here let me give a scenario um
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let's say you've been dating a guy i'm dating a guy right for a couple months
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and you're like hey what do you want to eat and he's like i don't know you just
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whatever you want is that turn off or because i feel like i hear from a lot of women they want
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like the guy who's decisive who's like i want mexican tonight i want hamburgers i want sushi
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i mean if it was like all the time and i never got to pick where to eat and it was just always
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what he wanted and like sure then i wouldn't like it but if he was like again 50 50 like half the time
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oh like what do you want and then half the time he's telling me what he wants what are you getting
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for dinner tonight oh i kind of want chick-fil-a okay can i add to that yeah so here's my issue
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with it is if i say like okay i make the final decision we're having mexican tonight and then
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it's awful or it's bad service or something then it comes back i hate when it the guy is then like
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well we shouldn't have done that because it was a horrible idea or yeah it's still on him then speak
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up because yeah it's still you didn't want to go for mexican then say something right but that's
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what we're like he submitted to your decision but ultimately it was still his decision right
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and then they turn around and they blame he can't blame you like what the heck it's his decision
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right yeah so it's like it's like in uh the book of genesis after adam and eve eat the fruit
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god god comes to them and he's like what have you done and adam goes it was the woman like she
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she said we should do it right there you go same thing uh yo really quick nick can you pull up uh
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chats here we have oops let me get this triggered brian can i make just one point of clarification
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yeah sure sure i just i want to say too to what we were saying i think it's good for a woman to want
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a man who can lead who cares about what it is that she cares about right there's a distinction there
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between a tyrant versus having a loving king boyfriend or husband right because if you're
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with a good man he's going to care about what you care about that doesn't mean he's always going to
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listen in terms of like yeah we're going to do that but a good man is going to at least care
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right a man who doesn't really care about you that much he's going to be like no screw it you have to
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say like i'm not listening there's a difference there would you say there's some type of a comparison
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there almost to the way that like children need to submit to their parents right it's like i mean
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sure sometimes you can have shitty parents and when you listen to them and they make all of the
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decisions on your behalf that could lead to a terrible life if they're terrible parents but
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if they're good parents and you trust in your judgment it's ultimately going to lead to the
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best outcome for you i mean i guess like i grew up with pretty shitty parents right so maybe it's hard
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so i was always independent and like on my own and like making my own decisions and for me it was kind
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of like like i was kind of like the leader helper of the family i guess like even with my brothers
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so i feel like i would have a really hard time if or like one putting my trust in a guy because i've
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had a lot of guys hurt me but also being submissive to someone else like after me being like dominant
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for myself all these years like i i just don't know if i could go fully submissive like i feel like for
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me it always have to be 50 50. you know so i've met i've met and talked to a lot of girls that have
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had daddy issues and who fundamentally find it hard to trust the judgment of a man yeah because
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they were taught in life that the man that was supposed to love them most didn't love them and
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didn't have their interests at heart i believe that if and when you choose to heal that and it'll take
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time but like for you to heal that wound from your dad and to realize like he failed at his job
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i believe that you would you would find it easier to trust a man i feel like i should also just keep my
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independence because i feel like that's what makes me who i am and it makes me strong it makes me
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successful with things in my life but do you feel like it's a little bit of an alma sometimes i mean
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yeah i do put up an armor but do i want to like be making decisions for myself even if it's like
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i have somebody else do i want to be the person like equal 50 50 and decisions yeah i never want
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someone to take that from me there's this saying that like unknown heavens are like scarier to
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people than known hells yeah and i think that oftentimes for people especially when they've
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experienced childhood trauma especially stuff with their upbringing like that bleeds into your
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adulthood so much oh it does that just because your armor has served you for this part of your life
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like i would just encourage you to think that like maybe like what are you also giving up in
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pursuit of keeping that armor on at the same time it's just something to consider if you find i'll
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tell you this just to wrap this point if you find a really good guy who loves you and he's strong and
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he's masculine and you can you can actually trust his judgment if you keep that armor up and you keep
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like pushing away his loving leadership that is the kind of thing that can ultimately push away a
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really good man well i'd say with 50 50 it wouldn't be like me pushing away his leadership it would be
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like me welcoming it in but also him welcoming like welcoming mind like just our opinions like that's it
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like not one person's a leader over the other kind of like you both are going together i don't know
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i was just you may find a guy who wants exactly that i hope so either way it's not ideal uh it's
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not right i would say uh i think i think going by our feelings is you know how we got this nation all
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jacked up in the first place we need to start going off the word of god not just our feelings facts if
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we make morals subjective or relative you could say to our own feelings and our own desires this destroys
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any moral claim that you can make it makes your world view concerning morals totally absurd because
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if you say okay morals are you know just what i feel is right okay now you've subjectivized morality
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and now we have dudes in women's bathrooms and you can't object to that you can't say oh that's wrong
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because you've already subjectivized morality he's just doing what's right in his own eyes you can't
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look at a a rape or a mall shooting and say oh that's wrong no you've already subjectivized morality
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he's just doing what's right in his own eyes but from the christian world view we start with god's
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word and the objective standard of his word we say this is god's design this is right because he says
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so and we start there instead of starting with our own feelings and our own reasoning i think honestly
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it'll just take the right man we're submitting to and i think that's the biggest point here is like
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for a man they want to confident a woman who they can lean on their counsel but for the woman they also
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need a man who they can trust and default to their leadership too and i think that's what it's going
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to take for you is meeting a man like that but i would just caution you to be a little bit worried
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because that armor that you're wearing now could prevent you from ever meeting him it's very wise
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what was that quote you said a second ago undiscovered known um hells are sometimes preferable
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to unknown heavens genius life-changing who said that i'm actually not sure what the original source
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is i'm not sure but someone said it to me years ago and it was really really well the way i've i've
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also i'm pretty sure this is the same thing is the devil you know is better than the devil you don't
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yeah but i don't know if that's basically like a shitty situation if you're i'm trying to think like
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what's the context you know what you're getting yourself into you know what you're dealing with it's
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like staying in an abusive relationship and being scared of breaking up and being single i'm not
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saying that that's a it's a right thing but yeah that's what people said about trump like that was
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a quote people used for trump like i'd rather have somebody like oh we know trump president because we
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know what his actual thoughts are versus somebody who's like sure we don't know and then they have
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some sketchy thoughts i'm so down to rumble um wait okay so where were we uh we were okay so i'm
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trying to think of some more scenarios with the 50 50 thing um well do you are you selectively 50 50
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though like for example when it comes to courtship uh do you ask guys out do you take initiative do you
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go for the first kiss yeah yeah yeah you go for the first kiss go for the first kiss yes sometimes
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well i mean why not if i like a guy no that's fine you said you're on birth control yes i wonder if
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your preferences would change after coming off i mean i'm not on birth control and that's not happening
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i mean i don't know but i usually sometimes when there's like a party and i like a guy go up to him
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i got a question about the 50 50 thing you want to have kids i don't know yet you don't depends on
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if i find the right guy okay say you found the right guy um then yeah yeah if i were financially
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straight and straighten up if i were financially stable everything like was aligned to have kids
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yeah i would want kids would you want to just continue working through your pregnancy and then
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after having the kids or would you want him to provide for you i feel like i feel like it depends
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if i have a really good job and i make more money financially than he does then i would want
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to keep working yeah despite the stresses of pregnancy and motherhood yes i'm calling cap
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we'll check back in 10 years yeah we'll put it on the calendar um what about you um so
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if i could find somebody that i trusted who doesn't go to jail right yeah so if i found a really good guy
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and i trusted him and he was intelligent and i would i would love to be able to to be submissive
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i would like that with your last boyfriend is that the one that was in that went to prison
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is that your last boyfriend no that was maybe a previous one were you submissive to him um i tried
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to be and then he proved over and over again to be extremely more of like um no not that's the that's
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the one that was in prison the last one i was with was the one that like had the job moved in
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lost the job and then was going to do the travel job and then was just in my apartment all the time
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um anyways he just he was not dominant at all i felt like i had to take on the dominant role and
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that was kind of a little bit of a bummer to me i was looking forward to either being 50 50 or
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getting to have somebody who was more of like a leader a real man so to speak yeah i guess yeah
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how'd you oh go ahead go ahead would you say atlas that you have a pattern of picking the wrong guys
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yes and that's why um i'm i've i've actually never even really dated so like i met that guy through a
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friend and he was one of the first guys i've actually ever gone out on some dates with the prison
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dude or the uh the last boyfriend yeah the any guy i've ever dated before i was friends with forever
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before we started dating so i'm just taking a long break and i'm about to have so much school
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there's no time to give anyone any time so i just don't get into anything really how many relationships
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have you had um in my adult life that would be easier to count so like when i was younger like
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a teenager i'd have like break up and get a different boyfriend doesn't matter in my adult
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life i've had okay let's see probably like less than five how many of them were just like shitty
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dudes like just like we got a dude in prison we got a guy that played video games all day actually
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probably not even five but probably three or four well like three um there was one really good guy
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there's one really good guy okay he was like military and became a nurse and i've know i've
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noticed that some women just have a habit of picking like dudes that are absolutely terrible for them
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and i've always wondered what drives that okay interject there i think that guys pick girls i think girls
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that um are to have some type of motherly healers yeah healers or givers or more submissive or wounded
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wounded guys predators pick up on that like you're wearing something on your forehead that's definitely
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a thing and the predators just yeah you know the claws pick up on them and and they're just like eagles and they just pick up
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and so i don't think it's the female's problem fault well i think both sexes should take accountability
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for sure if we're all adults but um yeah i've noticed that they're definitely like i don't know if you have
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any wounds but like wounded women will pick like the dudes that take advantage of them and then like
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predatory dudes will definitely hone in on women that are wounded how do you think pimping happens you
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know yeah there you go you know the predators these girls are out there on their own you know usually
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teenagers the runaways and something wasn't going on good at home and then bam you know they're picked
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up i wanted to say something to you because i love you amy so much that when you were a teenager
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that was trafficking that is not child prostitution it was traffic okay we're moving on from that we're
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not talking about that all right we try it we told you before the show like let's not it's one of the
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things that can get us banned all right thank you um let's brian where do you want to take it
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yeah so i'm trying to think here um take care of that super chat real quick if you want yeah i let's
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okay i'll read the soup chat ovigada just fyi for the global audience catholicism christianity is based
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on how europeans inter interpretate interpretate is that it's not a word interpret interpret the bible
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which was written by israel israelites not europeans for the last 1800 years humanity has been fooled to
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to think that this is their book and it's not uh okay can i address that real quick yeah take 20
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seconds i don't know it's i think it's speaking i don't know where he's 20 seconds he's saying he's
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saying that europeans manipulated the bible this is false ovigada the bible has been translated all
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over the world in many different languages we have the original source text this is not just a european
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thing you can find people in asia africa so on and so forth they've been they have uh translated the
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bible from the original source text into their own languages and it still says the same thing
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so there you have it folks all right we have uh gp many of the worst acts throughout human history
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have happened over my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend some of the worst people
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i've known go to church get a reset every sunday those who literally give the shirt off their back
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don't do you guys have a oh yeah response to that um from gp i mean andrew if you want to go you know
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there's a problem with church is the objection there's a problem with religion i guess you could
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say that's what he's that's what he's objecting to every world view is religious religion is unavoidable
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i don't care if you're a secular humanist i don't care if you're an atheist you're still religious and
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what i mean by that is everybody has a faith commitment in some ultimate standard or some
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standard that they place as ultimate so for the atheists or the secularists they place reason as
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ultimate or their feelings or science whatever as ultimate but trust the science right how'd that work
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out right that needs to be a shirt so the point is um religion is inescapable right and so everybody
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has a faith commitment but the faith commitment and reason cannot justify knowledge it actually causes
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experience to be absurd if you if you asked an atheist or secularist or you guys um how do you
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know anything at all and i've talked to people about this on the street many times um well i know
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things through reason i know things through experience well i would then say how do you know your reasoning
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is reliable how do you know what you know and then they they have two options they could either say
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well i know my reasoning is reliable because of science because of studies well that's a vicious
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circular argument they're committing or they could then say well i don't know i don't know whether my
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reasoning is reliable and they give up knowledge so this worldview this secular human worldview once
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you give up knowledge once you can't justify knowledge you then everything you do after that
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point makes no sense you're saying everything you do i mean you're assuming that you know things
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when you drive your car when you go to work you have to assume the uniformity in nature and
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and god's design in order to live life in order to make experience intelligible so i have a faith
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commitment in the bible that makes all of experience intelligible so based and they make they have a
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faith commitment and reason and experience through which they can know nothing at all what if you just
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have a higher power like what if it's just not like classic god bible itself but what if you believe in a
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higher power and you wager your decisions on whether a decision feels like it's going to bring you a
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light energy and peace versus a heavy energy that's dark what about that like so one of the things that
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the apostle paul wrote to the corinthians was that satan himself masquerades as an angel of light
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but what if you do make pretty good decisions like you seem to be like a good i would i would say this
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i would say this every different religion is making ultimate claims to truth and most of the
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time claims about where your soul is going to go when you die right all of these different religions
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lead to different places islam leads to one place they say you get there that way christianity leads
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to one place they say you get there this way buddhism hinduism they're all leading to different places
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and they're all making claims to truth the question is which one of them is right because
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if christianity is true and you don't take the path that jesus lays out for us you're not going to go
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to a place that you like you don't think i do need to move redirect things back okay we have to talk
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for after the show bender the offender i have trouble with religion due to the fact that
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the bane of brian's existence the religious talk um oh do we look we look kind of too dark here okay
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whatever it's fine um and it's fine it's fine um i have trouble with religion due to the fact that
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many of my family members died during my teens starting with my mother at age 10 i'd gone to eight
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family funerals in the span of eight years my father has been for lack of a better word a bomb since 2008
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okay bender the offender well thank you for good to see you back in the chat man um well what's uh
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if you guys i can open this up to both of you guys if you can try to uh i can keep it brief keep
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it brief so oftentimes people will say well how can there be a god because of xyz terrible things happen
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to other people happen to me happen in the world how can you know we have cancer we have uh we have
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disease we have um brain-eating amoebas so what how can all these terrible things exist
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and also be like so i i think that's kind of what he's getting at so what's your answer to that you
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want to take that yeah um there's multiple ways to answer that there's wrong ways to answer it um
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so it's the problem of evil right how can god be good and allow so much evil to exist
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you know and i get it it's extremely it's an emotional issue right all we all have trauma that
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we go through and uh job certainly in the bible uh dealt with great loss and yet he kept his faith
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in god so that one way to you know quote unquote rescue god from the problem of evil is say oh well
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there's free will now that doesn't really solve the problem or answer the objection very well because
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god is still sovereign over the free will of man so he still holds ultimate responsibility
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the way i would answer it is first number one you can't make sense out of right and wrong unless
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you start with the christian worldview unless you start with the objective standard of the word of
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god i've kind of talked about that already if you don't start there you just subjectivize everything
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and you lose knowledge and then the number two is you know god allows evil to take place and he is
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not accountable to us to necessarily give us all the ins and outs and all the reasons why he allows
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evil to take place there is certain reasons he says all things working together are working together
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for good all things are working together for his glory he says that he's good i trust that he's
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good two hundred dollars what does anybody know what this means is it world of warcraft no that's
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definitely not world of warcraft related is it spanish i have no idea george is that it's all
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latin i think it's a part of the bible i'm not correct me if i'm wrong but his name's or a pro
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anyways let's get back to it where you want to you want to wrap that up yeah um so number one you
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can't make sense out of right and wrong unless you start with the christian worldview and then
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number two um god is not accountable to us to necessarily give us all the reasons for why he
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allows bad things to take place i trust that he has a good plan in mind job certainly did and he had
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a much worse life than i did and uh so if god is good he must have a morally just reason for allowing
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him to evil evil to take place but he's not accountable to us to give us every single reason
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i'll take a quick stab at it brian unless you want to move on uh it's up to you man maybe like
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20 seconds 20 seconds yeah i'll just say this the story of human history is a self-governance
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experiment in the garden of eden adam and eve chose to reject what god wanted for them they ate the fruit
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he promised them if you guys eat this fruit you will surely die since then mankind has been trying
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to govern itself like andrew said god gives us free will people can use that free will for good or
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for evil uh and people do evil with it and bad stuff happens in the world we live in a fallen world
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to the guy who sent in that comment i uh i was raised christian for a period of time when i was a
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lost my faith after my mom struggled with lyme disease and then took her own life from it um
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i looked at that and i thought to myself how could a good god exist my mom had faith in god she prayed
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for healing how could he let her go through this that killed my faith uh but god brought me back to
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him and i i look at all this now and it's like dude the problem of evil it sucks man but because there's
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brokenness in the world it doesn't mean that god is not good and we know actually that god is good
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because when god comes down to earth when jesus christ reigns on this earth there will be no
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more sorrow there will be no more death there will be no more tears and that's what we look forward to
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man all right that's so heavy man if you want to have a good time come to the bunny ranch
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okay okay okay okay okay okay um i'm gonna read this chat please guys if you're gonna super chat
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we've been off of dating for 20 30 minutes now guys stick please can we respect please with the
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super chats guys if there's more that come through look i i have no issues with uh religious talk but
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you know it is a dating podcast i do want to be considerate of the other guests here uh so if any
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other religious chats come through i might just i'm letting you guys know we might just skip over it
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because it's kind of derailing the conversation guys so yeah all right uh i didn't mention
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translations because we both know those were necessary my point is europeans interpretate
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again okay buddy the bible differently than the israelites who actually wrote the bible thus
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uh false interpretations equals false religion hijacking the book which was not yours okay there
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you have it um all right i don't even know where we left off here let me do a chat that's kind of
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kind of related we were talking about like submission all right lenny ladies and gents
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red flag green flag the guy's only source of income is through betting his earning admits he
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can't survive even a day in the wild and if you were dating him your dad doesn't think he's a man
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love the pod by the way wait so is he is this a scenario is he talking about he's saying pig if
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he's a red flag or a green flag is it a red flag or a green flag if your guy yeah he's a gambler
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that's how he makes all of his income gambling red red red and he can't survive even a day in
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the wild yeah there's an addiction like in nature and your dad doesn't think he is a man
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i mean yeah just only specific okay okay okay let's add let's add one more detail he's extremely
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successful at it makes like millions of dollars he's rich she's like wait hold on
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when you when he gambles he wins all the time or just like not all the time sometimes he takes
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huge losses but overall he's successful at it and he makes a ton of money but he can't survive
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a day in the wild and your dad does not think he's a man your dad thinks he's a soy boy but he's rich
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he can't survive a day in the wild red flag or green flag you go still red flag still red flag
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red flag i like naked and afraid and alone red definitely red i want someone to protect me
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red flag addiction but he's rich yeah okay okay um maybe green flag because if he keeps winning then
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maybe it's not gambling i'm rich red flag okay all right there you have it um okay so some of you
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were so kind as to provide some pre-show notes to us so uh starting with you wendy i saw on your
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instagram you consider yourself a five-star what is a five-star pitch is it like a five-star hotel no
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no not uh uh not that it's just like i don't know i just consider like i consider me i consider
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me myself like pretty you know like um i don't know it just like just means like i'm just like
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a five-star like my reign is just five-star like i'm just i'm just out of ten or out of five
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i think she's a five it's a lot of five oh yeah just checking it's usually just five stars um uh
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let's see you also wrote there's there's no real love out here anymore what do you mean where in your
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messages to us you're like there's no love out here anymore yeah yeah okay okay i'm like i'm like oh
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i thought i was like on my instagram i'm like no no no it was captioned i put that on in the messages you
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sent us um so is that because of the habitual cheating ex-boyfriend um not that it's like i try
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and just so many guys just give me icks like i don't know oh icks yeah uh what so many guys give
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you icks so first off what is an ick like um sometimes like like a girl just wants to hang out
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like have a friend you know just like talk to you know and then half the time no mostly all the time
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they just like they just want to like fuck but if you say no to it like then they're just like they
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don't want to be your friend yeah then they're no then they're all grouchy and stuff and like
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or like they start driving fast or just a bunch of like those are like yeah that's yeah and that's just
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happens more than it should wait so basically like you have guys who you think are your friends
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or just like in general i just like i just tell them like i literally text i'm like yeah we could
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hang out but like just saying out like i don't want to find nothing like i just like because i smoke
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you know like i smoke weed so i'm like oh if i want to wait you did you guys smoke before the show
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yeah i do i smoke she doesn't i didn't you sure yeah okay all right yeah okay so
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these guys hang out wait so you so they usually attend saying oh like let's smoke like hang out
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like that you know yeah they want to have sex with you like but no but i tell them before we hang out
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like i don't you know like i don't want that and then when i hang out with them like they like push
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themselves on me and i'm like no you know like i don't know if you have to tell them then you
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should probably just like stay away if you're not down for that because i think you're very dangerous
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i think you're around the wrong people i think this is what this is a perfect example of how men and
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women can't really be friends yeah i feel like it's a perfect example of no offense female naivete
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if dudes are asking you to smoke they probably want to hook up with you
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yeah you know i'm right yeah but what if she just wants a free blunt oh is that what it is yeah
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that's what it is are they are they providing the way that was some honesty right there um sometimes
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like no what's it what's the term i usually say match it matching someone out so smoking someone
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out or just matching it matching it usually like i don't know i don't think i don't know if it's a great
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like so you meet you meet up with these guys just you you and the dude yeah she wants she wants to
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get smoked out and then she acts surprised when they're like yo i want to hook up with you and then
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they get mad what yeah yeah i'm gonna do drugs with guys i feel really she might want to be their
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friend she might think the dude's funny like i don't have to open my legs just for like just because
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like what i got no would you hang out with any of these guys if they weren't smoking you out no
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yeah so let's put that hole she might just want to take advantage of you and you're taking advantage
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of him is it just because you just want to be smoking though no sometimes i just get bored and
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they just say like oh hang out i'm like sure but i'm not looking for anything like i don't want to do
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anything you know and like why do like i have to force myself you know like i don't even know the dude
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and they just tell me like oh like so so the the guys should 100 excuse me should 100 percent oh
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my god i can't speak to 100 100 respect your boundaries however there are some dog type dudes
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out there that like i mean a lot of guys will play they'll play like the friendship role even if you're
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in a relationship and they're just waiting yeah when she gonna be single where's my like so i think
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women can be friends with men it's not clear to me there's probably some men out there like can be
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friends with women but like i think a lot of men for example um you it sounds like you have a male
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friends right and you view them as just strictly yes strictly just friends you too i'm sure all of
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you maybe have some male friends um i've probably the vast majority of them if given the opportunity if
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you're like hey do you want to hook up they would be down they would hook up with you in fact we
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could do a little test here you got your phone on you text one of your male friends right now and
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be like hey we already know who to do it do it do it i have so many videos of like i've never seen i
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go party with him all the time every time a girl comes up to him he just goes like that and like
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i've never seen him talk to a girl or go up to a girl which is like oh you know no but he's not
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like that but like either way until he's in a relationship yeah uh we can't call him i can't
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call him because because he sucks at like texting we you'd have to text him just because california
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wiretapping laws it's not trying to catch a felony here but um gotta love his coat
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no one side consent uh no i think uh what are you what are you gonna text him oh oh should i just
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be like be like oh hey hey what are you doing and then if he responds be like you want to hook up
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and just see what he says i think that means like hang out isn't he do you want to i don't know it's
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pretty netflix netflix and chill question mark yeah do you like you want to hook up with like a winky face
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how about do you want to cuddle tonight do you want to hang you should be you should be forward
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with it for the sake of the experiment what are you doing all right let him respond hey brian you
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want to pull up that super chat in the meantime sure sure sure i'll read this one i'm really hot
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and bothered guys city said please no more religious talk i like chase when he's not on his soapbox smart
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slash nice guy just misdirecting his intellect towards fantasy stories shots fired come back more often
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chase we've missed you just leave that stuff for jesse lee peterson's show great panel tonight
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well i uh i don't want to hijack brian's show with the religious stuff but you will never get
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me to back down from it uh but thank you for uh expressing that you missed me it's good to be back
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with you guys and i think we're yeah we're all caught up on chats um so let us know has he responded
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yet let us know what he says so you just asked hey what are you doing yeah if you want me to say
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something i don't just wait wait till he no no no what what you should do this is what you should
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do wait till he responds okay and then and then after he responds then be like yo like what are you
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doing tonight want to hook up like just something like that because if you just come right off the
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bat like if some random girl hit me up and was like yo want to hook up i'd be like what he's literally
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the time to like laugh at your face no he will he'll laugh at me that's what he's gonna do
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i think he won't take it seriously no he just doesn't want to he's gonna put like a thumbs down
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emoji or something if you already know that like he's not gonna want to text text a guy he's a friend
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he's my friend that wouldn't want to well we've had girls say this though and then they get proven
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wrong like the guy's down yeah it could you should like what do you what do you guys think would
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work does he have a girlfriend is he single okay that's okay okay maybe they say yes so it doesn't
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like uh affect his masculinity what he's not gonna he's gonna just pass up a chance at
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i don't think he'll just say yes just so he doesn't look like that literally once at a party i
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could literally say a story from him like once we were at a party and a girl in our friend group like
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this happened like one our friend group a girl that she literally went up to him like literally
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all over him like trying to kiss him he's just going like this back and forth and he's like okay
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like after five minutes of her trying to kiss him she's like okay um go get me like a drink from the
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bar and then like we'll like go to the corner and like i'll give you a kiss you know and then she goes
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gets him a drink and he just gets the drink and just walks into like walks away into the crowd and i
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literally witnessed that and i was just like i was just laughing maybe he's not into girls
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sigma move dude wait does he uh but like that was one specific example but does he like you see him
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hooking up with girls he's a guy does he have a game or no like i'm like i don't think he's just
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surviving he just vibes he just doesn't care yeah okay all right uh do you have a guy that you can text
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to see if he would that was the guy oh we're both friends we're friends we're in the same
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friend group so yeah are you guys trying to set up a threesome here or what no i just might seem
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more realistic if she said something like that but just being like yo you want to have my phone
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i feel like when you're younger okay so from a girl's perspective what do you think would be
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better i feel like when you're younger like at the age that they're at they don't talk that direct
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i feel like that's more like our age would be like that but like maybe if she made it into something
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more funny but still giving the sign like hey i'm gonna be hanging out with so and so and we want
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you to come over winky face maybe we could all do something fun haha you know i don't know that's
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no that's that's like hanging that's hanging out this is just like hanging out see that sounds so bad
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right like so no no not like bad but that's just like terrible no it's vague it's too vague what you
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got to do is be like be like i'm i'm i'm uh not doing anything tonight do you want to come over
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winky face yeah i think that's good i think that's decent i feel like he's not going to pick
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up on that oh i feel like he's not going to pick up on that and he's just going to be like oh like
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okay like what about you know we're just going to hang out and chill no winky face does anybody
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that's pretty suggestive i mean it's old but it's like it's so pre-2020 isn't it
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winky face question mark i don't know i'm too old okay here what we'll check in later on that
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so you were talking about icks right and i think that's how we got onto this conversation what are
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some other icks e-icks oh we just said chill and i think here's here's a better question actually
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what's the worst ick you've ever gotten from a guy i think that would be interesting to hear from the
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ladies we could do that and then also what's like the most kind of minor ick but that was a deal-breaker
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like oh you didn't tie his shoes or had mismatching socks or something like ridiculous like that
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like can you guys can any of you remember a time you got the ick like really bad from a guy
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i mean yeah yeah i think all right what what was it what happened so we were going out with some
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friends and i was waiting for them at the table and i realized that they were staring at me from a
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far corner and just like giving me this vampire stare and i think they wanted me to come to them and
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i thought that was just like really possessive and kind of gross so they were just looking just
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extremely awkward well it was kind of weird because there was like two guys at the table
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but i had three friends so they were kind of occupying the guys so i felt like maybe he was
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uncomfortable um but like come and talk to me like i'm just sitting there like don't stare at me like
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a serial killer yeah and i just like the guy came up like one of the guys on the table came up to me
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and said i think that's your boyfriend staring at you and i turned around and it's just like
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like slender man in the corner wait so you were dating this guy yeah kind of like just uh
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yeah did you stop talking to him after that um yeah pretty much because i would be so curious to
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hear the story from his perspective yeah i think he would feel like i figured out too
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my ex he had um so i i invited him over but i was with my friends like he just wanted to hang out with me
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like just wanted to and then i was at my friends he comes over but he's like oh but my cousin's coming
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i'm like okay he could come too like i have my friends are just there like you know and then he
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right when they like i thought like right when he got there like his cousin was just like all over one
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of my friends and then my friends was like can you like um like i don't want to hook up i don't know what
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you know like nothing like because he was like implying like let's go to a room you know and like
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none of them knew him and then after like she said like oh like i don't know you like i don't even know
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your name and then um he's like yeah and then he was like trying to like like hook up with her and he
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just started like his nose started flaring up he was in the corner with his eyes all big staring at him
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down literally like staring her down the whole time and then my my ex now but my boyfriend at the
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time he literally looks at me he's like oh we have to leave early then and i'm just like that's
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disgusting so but then the whole time they were just both just staring down on my friend like
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mad dogs like they were just like mad the whole time oh that's pretty awkward okay
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uh andrew what can a woman do to give you the ick yeah i've already mentioned that right
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um all i'm looking for like what if you were talking to a christian girl okay and like what
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could she do to make you be like oh man i'm really not interested in you you know uh when i've talked
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to girls they made it pretty obvious so what makes it obvious if i'm if i approach to her i'm about to
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ask her out and you know she's just not engaged in the conversation or looking away or whatever she
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it's like okay i'm not gonna ask you out then you know oh that's about it andrew i got a question for
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you uh do you want to get with a woman who is a virgin does she have to be a virgin well she doesn't
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have to be but it's preferable yeah are you a virgin i am yes nice so would you date somebody or
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proceed with somebody who is like like born again or has found it later like you know had a
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proboscuous past no deal yeah i mean what about like she's been with like 50 dudes 100 yeah that's
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enough okay straight up but she but but she's she's repented and she's found jesus yes still
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still probably no bro it just it depends bro like i don't know i'd have to meet her you know
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would you even have that conversation with her if she didn't give you any like red flags to think
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that she had been with like sexual history would probably come up uh you know okay all right all
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right let me let me so how many let me let me lay out and so do boys yeah let me lay out a uh scenario
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for you you start talking to a chick she's awesome loves jesus super cool woman and uh you guys are a
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few dates in and you're like you're really pumped like you you you're like yo i might have just found
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my wife and then like a few weeks in she drops the bomb i've slept with 60 dudes but i'm but i'm but
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no yeah i'm right there with you you know if i got a direct command of god if i got a direct
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command from god like in the book of hosea then yeah i would do it but other than that there's no
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way bro no way and real what what's chase you're uh you're you're not a virgin but you're
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waiting until marriage now correct i'm uh continuing to do my best to maintain abstinence
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i have uh i will say i will say i am not above temptation no chase yeah dude it's over it's over
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it's so over it is over so to give people context bachelor days the last my understanding the last time
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you were on or in previous shows you were on you had been celibate for two years two and a half
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years three years three years no longer chase are you saying that you hold on you broke your
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celibacy man chase i fell into temptation bro chase oh my goodness he was tempted
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chase i'm how does andrew feel about mad i'm just disappointed yeah and did you repent you think
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you think you're the only one bro i i knew i knew i would have to own this coming on today and i'm
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humble enough to own it but yeah it's i'm disappointed too it sucks man so what's the process like now what's
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the process like now um healthy communication continuing to uh do my best to maintain self
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self-control and honor god with my body so i'm assuming this is you and your fiance i don't have
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a fiance or you're oh sorry i thought that's what you said are you plugged into a church yes somewhat
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not as much as i should be though and i'm telling you once you get plugged into a church you get some
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accountability with men that are you know we're gonna help you out along the way so maybe some
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responsibility yep yep i need that in my life did you dump her what did you dump her after you slept
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with her no he's still with her he cheers is it the same girl all right this conversation's over
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um okay wow i'm a little heartbroken i am heartbroken uh but okay all right moving on moving on i'm gonna get
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i'm gonna get roasted in the chat oh no i'm gonna get roasted just don't forget to love yourself we all
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uh stray from time to time okay all right um how did we get there ix i had somebody throw my purity ring
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out a window oh is there an update did the guy respond okay yeah into the mic if you can
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he said chilling at jacobs and i said i've kind of started to get a crush on you
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would you ever want to hook up okay what did he say what did he did he respond no he hasn't opened
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it no mike drop do you think he's watching the show though do you think he's watching no he doesn't
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even they don't know we're here oh okay i don't know i feel like if somebody did that to me then
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they were like just kidding i would like it would it would break you not like break me unless i really
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really really really liked them but that might hurt my feelings okay uh well that's interesting so
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uh wendy also in your messages to us you said and i quote guys literally
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guys literally aren't shit lol but yes topics about cheating um so guys aren't
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shit guys literally aren't shit literally or figuratively it's confusing um so i don't want
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to be too rude uh what when you say guys literally aren't shit or guys aren't shit what what do you
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what do you mean they be fucking up are men fucking up is that what you're trying to yeah they be
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fucking up yeah cheating they be what do they be literally like dogs like just like i don't know
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okay interesting okay um yeah for my like what about like so okay there's obviously i don't think you
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know what happened with the ex and the cheating that's certainly not uh acceptable in a relationship
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what about just your encounters with single men when you've been single um are you encountering
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when i'm single and they're single it's just like i don't care what you do it's just because
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like we're not committed yet you know like that's what i think when i'm in a relationship i'm committed
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to that person but when i'm single it's just like i'm not i know that they're going to do whatever
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they're going to do and i don't have a say in it you know when does when does i'm sorry can i ask
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her a question sure i just want to know like when you say like once you're committed does the
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conversation occur like because i know like dating for your age and dating for like probably my age is
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similar but very very different right so like do you say specifically we're in a committed
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relationship now we are no longer seeing anyone else or is it just a vibe it's just like um we both
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know you know like he wouldn't want me to be like going with him and then going with someone else like
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when we're together you know or like um just in general me being in relationship and just like
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texting other guys like i wouldn't want him to be doing that you know because for me when i actually
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get in relationship i give him like like that's like my all but kind of because um i don't really be
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like pushing forward relationship like i don't really like it's not it's not like i don't know it's
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not really my type to like be in relationship and when once i am in one is like wow like you know
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like okay i have a couple questions on this so you will not initiate the relationship conversation
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you want the guy to initiate the conversation is that correct yeah but how many of you feel the same
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way i don't care i guess i think it should be the woman who initiates that conversation but uh i think
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it might like dating it or like a vibe older i think there's more of a vibe and then there's
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a conversation like i think like you understand that there's a mutual understanding yeah when you're
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dating in your 40s i think that's dangerous though it is and then i think you have to ask i asked in one
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of the long-term dating i like i did do after my divorce and he was like of course and it was kind of
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like i was stupid for asking but i wanted to make sure because i it was dangerous right like
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that's how a lot of people i want to know that the dating apps are down and i want to know that
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like the conversations prior to me are over does that make sense yeah that's why i asked her if there
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was a conversation or a vibe i definitely think like if you there should be no questions i think there
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ought to be and i mean this is if if you think that this is your boyfriend or girlfriend you should
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certainly be capable of having the conversation about exclusivity i mean that's if you're sleeping
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together you need to be well it's kind of important in a relationship to be able to communicate with
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each other i do think that there should be an overt conversation about hey we're just seeing each
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other we're exclusive because i think a lot of people can sometimes get confused uh or think they're
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in a relationship when they're not and it could go both ways i mean but some girls think that they're
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exclusive with a guy and he's like no like i'm still seeing other people like so i think it is
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important to have that overt uh conversation um so and the other thing you were saying was
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so what about you're talking about when well if we're not in a relationship yet he's gonna be with
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other he might i don't care we're not exclusive fine he's gonna do his thing what about you are you
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seeing other guys during this period like do you have a roster right now what's the sitch
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you got a roster no i don't have a no it's just like for me um i don't know if it's just other
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people but i don't i'm not really like a like a sexual person i'm not really like a dating person
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i don't know like it's just always been like that my whole life you're not a sexual person or a dating
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person so yeah like i don't really need to do it you know like like other people like i know
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other people oh that's why he cheated on you then of course oh my god no like when i'm in a relationship
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yeah like it's a different story like i'm talking like um like when i'm talking to people like i don't
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need like like when i'm single like right you know it's not okay i i think not like i'm a hound
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dog you know like i'm trying to like she has to go get it right you're not pressed to get laid okay
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sure sure i can i see what you mean i thought you meant you were not sexual within a monogamous
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relationship no like when i'm in a relationship it's good oh it's game over okay it's game over
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but so uh right now you're single come on there's a guy there's some guy in the picture right
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a little thing a little ting hey no i'm kidding um got a crush or i i have one one crush yeah but
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say his name publicly no i'm just kidding no are you gonna make a move school i can't
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no a lot of people watch it so you guys what's the extent of your guys's um if like i go to like
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it's like because i go to party over here in iv yeah with my friends sometimes like mostly all
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the time and then um i was gonna say sometimes but i know it was like or i go to rock fire just to
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like just drink with my friends or like whatever and then like once he was i met him he's just like
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a security i'm not gonna say from who but he's a security from part some party and um just one day
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i was just really getting angry at my friends they were just all drunk i was the only one sober getting
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care of living you can imagine just a group of people that were just drunk and then he just comes
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and says like if you want so it's too late like so you don't have to get uber you could like come
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to like miles you could like sleep on the couch like trying to be nice you know quote unquote trying
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to be nice i know quote unquote and then yeah after that i just like i see him so did you end up
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crashing on his couch or in his bed oh busted yeah how often how often do you see him um i would say
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like about like once a week i think or two is this a sneaky link yeah type like he literally told me
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that whenever like i don't want to go home or like i'm coming back from a party i could just like go to
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his house like whenever i want so you spend the night or you dip after the deed is done oh i spend
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the night okay all right have you heard back from dude no let me look no it's still sent i'm pretty
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sure he's probably not gonna answer me huh okay maybe he knows you're on the show um what about you do you
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have a roster right now what's into the microphone no comment come on let's give us the details that's
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a yes uh uh i don't know the truth comes out what do you want so uh are you like seeing and is there
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do you have a main piece and some side pieces you got one main what three main pieces yeah there's like
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one guy i like more then the other 12 the other how many oh no no like there's like three like three
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or definitely three like definitely three okay maybe definitely three maybe four is there a fourth one
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in there no literally three and so are you going on dates with all three of them one one of the guys
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yeah one of them but like we both know that it's not a relationship oh okay and what about the other
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two what does one of them think it's a relationship no okay i wouldn't after being cheated on i'd never
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cheat on someone else okay but um no the other guys are just guys like i'll like i talk to or like um
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i see a party sometimes okay can i ask like what's the point i mean i don't know like one of the guys
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like i like but um i just don't want to be in a relationship and then i don't see him like that
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often because he doesn't live here and then um the other guys i don't know well enough yeah like i'm just
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getting to know them i guess wait so you say you talk but like so are you hooking up with all three
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of them no have you have you hooked up with all three of them just one of them and then the other
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two you one of them i haven't at all and then one of them like not sex like just like
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i've made out with them yeah like casually dating then yeah just saying that's okay yeah
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good times good times okay all right yeah people people nowadays i guess have rosters um
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she's got a roster that's not a roster that's not a roster no i think she's no well she's just saying
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that she's like casually dating yeah she's not like sleeping with them like committing to one
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i guess she's got these homies on rotation that's a roster my friend i feel like um
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at that age as well i'm not saying like at that age or anything but it's kind of nice to learn how
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to date and like how to ask what you want or see what you like erroneous um erroneous okay um but
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as long as you're just not like cheating yeah uh like spreading yourself like that much like even
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just sexually you're not looking for that do they know about each other they don't need to know about
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each other like they said this is why we need patriarchy people that's it i think that's what
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i'm understanding you're just like seeing if you okay no i know people that have like rosters on
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dating apps they keep like a a spreadsheets a spreadsheet on dating apps yeah i don't know about
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match.com i think it's uh i the whole thing with the roster i think it's uh
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um it's pretty easy to date one person at a time you know it's not that hard it's not i i think that's
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and if you want to find a relationship i think that's the probably the best way date one person
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at a time but the question is do you want to find a relationship i do but i got so lost in my last
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relationship that like uh this is just i have borderline personality disorder so i get something
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called my favorite person so when i go into like that like everything like my mood everything
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depends on how they feel and then it throws me off a lot so you're saying you have a two you got a two
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yeah that's why two friends with borderline personality disorder is it wait what i don't
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know it's not bipolar oh you're bipolar it's called um how to date somebody with like borderline
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personality disorder and saying how it is so possible to have like a genuine yeah it's not
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a productive relationship that's a tough that's a tough one yeah it's just like after being in a
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relationship for some and i was diagnosed like halfway through my relationship so i didn't even
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know at the beginning like what was happening what was going on and then once i was diagnosed
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like i was able to work with it but coming from that like i need to be like by myself emotionally like
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i don't feel like i can get connected enough to a person to where i can give like myself to them
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without losing myself so that's kind of like why i'm like just getting to know people feeling
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everything out like seeing stuff like that because if i were to be in a committed relationship
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i would lose myself right now do you get really when you find a guy you you like you really like
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him like you're almost obsessed or not really i mean i never really got oh sorry i never really
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got with like the obsessive kind of thing it was more so just like in a way you could say that
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like i was like he would be upset and then i would be upset he would be mad at me and i'd like
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freak out like i would be like oh my gosh i don't know what to do well it would it would be like i
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would actually like spiral like smack him around a little bit no like it wasn't like that like i would
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get upset with myself for like making him upset or like he would cheat on me and then he would get
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upset that i found out and then he would get really mad at me and then i would take his like feeling
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um mad or upset and i would put that onto myself because like how dare you find out yeah it was
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yeah so that makes sense on why she's so afraid of giving up the 50 50. yeah it does it makes so
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much more sense now because she's afraid of losing herself entirely into somebody else so if she gives
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that that extra 50 or even an extra 10 or 20 she could lose herself entirely i dated a girl who had
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borderline personality disorder how'd that go you did it was turbulent it was turbulent um but
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intense yes like intense yeah let's hear your love story now i want to hear about yours uh how did that
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end putting me on it might have been manifested itself differently than you because for her it was like
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obsession like and it for it was intense okay um like crazy obsession oh yeah he's saying like
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watching you like when you're like sleeping to make sure you're sleeping not like a creepy thing but just
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like really like because i think a lot of people play it kind of cool when it comes to dating you know
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they're a little maybe they're a little laid off what's that yeah kind of aloof is a good word kind
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of nonchalant when it comes to dating people aren't like up front super overt like oh my god i'm like
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i really like like she came on strong super strong i don't know if that's called love bombing i don't
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know if that's the term yeah we did do that a little yeah you did that a little bit oh yeah um so on one
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hand it can be like kind of intoxicating in the sense of like whoa like damn she's into me it's
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sweet right but also yeah and then it gets intense like then it's like arguments borderline personality
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and narcissism usually co yeah and usually a bunch of guys that like see a girl that's like that they
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like use it as like their advantage by saying like oh wow like she'll do anything for me i forgot what
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that means bro what are you saying nick what is that hand signal oh okay okay sorry it's been a
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minute since just just just like wide-angle us that means you have it's good i'll go ahead well okay so
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have you seen meet the parents with robert de niro ben stiller so me and nick set up this this hand
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gesture thing so the in meet the meet the parent or is it meet the fuckers you go like this and
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it means you got to use the bathroom it's when they were teaching the baby teaching the baby
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sign language yeah yeah yeah and so nick and then nick started doing it like three months
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for the first time ever i was like what the are you doing okay all right um wait so you're bipolar
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how does that manifest itself mood swings um like she said have you ever slashed a dude's tires what
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are we talking here no like i'm talking about like um the same thing that she was saying like when he
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will get angry i'll be angry or like my whole mood would just change okay or like i just well for me i be
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like i become once i'm angry i stay angry like she's sitting there like i like once i'm angry like
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that's it like i'm just angry for a while until i get out of it but it takes for me to like to get
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out i don't know why it's just like it sounds like just like most women to be honest i was like that
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when i was younger and as i grew older i know i think it it's true yeah i think it's part of being
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young and not really knowing where you stand and not knowing what you're angry to do with that
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yeah my pimp was borderline if i was what is what is borderline personality don't even bother because
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until you like do something for me i disassociate um so like you have it too i do okay um i was
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recently diagnosed with it actually this last summer so um for me i disassociate so especially when i first
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started um in the adult industry i would um like almost like check out and to a different personality
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and a different personality would then take on the adult role that i was doing and then
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me like that's sitting here would have no recollection or no memory of what actually happened so i would
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see it that's crazy or on like whatever and i'd be like i have no memory of that isn't that more of
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just a trauma response yeah but if you're going through something traumatic different stages you
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disassociate so you can so you can deal with the trauma yes yes yes how does that correlate to the
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the bpd so i have different personalities that take over during sorry i have different personalities
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that take over during those instances so i don't just disassociate in like but like i have other names
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for different yeah okay so okay here's a couple here's a couple of symptoms traumatic situations
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maybe yeah okay that makes sense um so fear of abandonment unstable relationships unclear or
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shifting self-image impulsive self-destructive behaviors uh extreme emotional swings chronic feelings of
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emptiness explosive anger yeah that's just a hug you guys um i want to say something and i really i
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don't want to sound offensive but i honestly feel like a lot of those things you listed off for like
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the product of the times like unfortunately and for sure there are uh you know checks and balances
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that you can go through to be properly diagnosed but i also see a generation that are persistently
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self-ideeing themselves with many things for mental health conditions trans stuff whatever it may be
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and unfortunately i think that a lot of these underlying symptoms are just a product of the times and
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unfortunately this world that we live in i mean i feel like you saying that does kind of suck
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because it does kind of feel like invalidating because i went through all the steps to be
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diagnosed i like in and out of mental hospitals like a very self-destructive behavior which i know
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we can't talk about but yeah um so hearing you say that and like i do get it because a lot of people
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do self-diagnose and they make it like a personality specifically right and that's why i said it's different
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when you go through checks and balances like which is your story i'm talking more so specifically to
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those list of symptoms that he read off and to somebody who actually has it i'm sure that manifests
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in such terrible ways that i can't even begin to imagine but i think on a low level a lot of people
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probably would read that and be like hey i'm that and we are seeing a huge incidence of people self-ideeing
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in this day and age well i was watching one of your episodes recently and a girl was like um i
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thought it was ironic she goes i have adhd really bad but i kind of made a joke out of it because
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whoever has adhd just a little like nobody ever says like i have adhd just a little bit like it's
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always so inflated and it's always so exaggerated and we are a generation like it is a generation of
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kids with adhd and um autism and all of these these identifications and um it's it is like i think it
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needs to be more diagnostic versus just a list of symptoms that we can google googleology like
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i call it people's google md you know like you can google a sore throat and now all of a sudden
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throat cancer like you know like it's it's just a it's a downward spiral of of so disaster
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what is the solution to all these psychological conditions because you know the pharmaceutical
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industry thinks it's just you know take some pills but i think this is a highly spiritual issue
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we are spiritual beings and i think the consequences of sin i really think that's what's going on i think
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you know whenever you disobey god you you're sexually immoral you sleep around a lot that has
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spiritual ramifications upon your life and those spiritual ramifications have biological ramifications
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so you get these chemical imbalances in your brain you get depression you get bipolar because of the
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spiritual state that you're that you're in that's what i believe but christ christ can renew your mind
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he can fix that amen if you simply bow the knee to him you know i'm not saying it's going to happen
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instantly it's called sanctification it's it's growing in in christ growing to be more like him
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you know it's a process but you know when jesus said he used the language of being born again that's
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truly what happens you're you're a new creation old things pass away and all things become new it's
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happened to me i believe he can testify the same thing it's happened to him you know i don't think the
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same way that i used to i don't desire the same things that i used to desire it's because christ
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lives in me i also personally don't struggle with the same things that i used to struggle 100 before
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i knew jesus so can you share an example hold on one second hold on one second question for you do you
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think that the trauma that you experienced as a girl with your dad and stuff might have contributed
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to developing bpd oh yeah yeah okay so to go back to your question how we can fix this
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jesus christ societal return to jesus christ and fixing the broken families which comes down to
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men fixing themselves women fixing themselves pursuing jesus having awesome families where men
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actually love their daughters and actually protect them and actually protect them that's that's my
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opinion on how we fix this i think that's what it starts from what'd you say who sinned respectively
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who sinned because her father did not fulfill what he needed to do as a father so how does she respond
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to that because she needs empathy and compassion and love no turn to christ through jesus christ and
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and and i'm talking about god's love yeah amen the ladies in our home many of them have different
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issues and i've had my own personally and the love that was given to me by different people in my life
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and of course the love centered on god and jesus has completely changed my life and my thinking and
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when i got start spiraling because i understand what you ladies are saying i totally get it that's
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actually me john john donated 200 dollars one common trait i've seen between most sex workers is they have
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trauma fellas stay in your daughter's lives amen absolutely if you look statistically it's it's an
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extremely high number of trauma based in the industry that we're in 100 but fathers keep their daughters
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off the stripper pole and their sons out of prison go ahead by loving their children
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and let's help yeah because i did do i did write a subject about like does like um this childhood trauma
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affect like the way um we we become as an adult you know and um thousand percent and then it is like
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the fault like it's a bunch of like it is mostly a lot is cases that i did was um
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the father wasn't present and it was just the kid was not in the right environment and not being in
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the right environment um chose them to like either be in jail or um like just just become like a stripper
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you know it it has a massive massive impact on people you know the the way the way a person does or
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doesn't receive love from their parent when they're a kid has a massive impact on their internalization
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of self-worth whether or not they feel lovable self-image it's the reason why so many women who
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have been abused as children end up in these industries there's no question about it i can
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speak personally to it like we live in a society of people with daddy issues everybody's got daddy
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issues a lot of people also have mommy issues i i am someone who had somewhat still struggles with
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daddy issues like my my biological father has like completely ignored my existence
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for my entire life and like for a long time to to continue this thread of how jesus heals these things
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for a long time i internalize that as like i am not worthy of love like i am a human being who is not
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worthy of love from the father and to continue the thread with what we've been saying about god like
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the way we heal those wounds as people you know what andrew was saying with respect to healing your
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your wounds your bipolar disorder so on and so forth like my healing that i did in relation to my dad
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it was through finding the love of my heavenly father you know like knowing that my heaven my father in
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heaven actually loves me unconditionally even though my biological father doesn't like that was huge for
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me and diving into that and understanding that like healed everything for me you know self-esteem
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comes from doing esteemable things and women can do esteemable things in and outside of the industry
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i would disagree with that um i don't think there's anything esteemable about prostitution
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to be honest with you um it's just the way god regards it it's an abomination to them but
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um that doesn't mean you can't be an esteemable person though if you repent of it yeah if you
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repent the call goes out to everybody the prostitutes the whores you know the people christ did not come
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for good people there's nobody good he came for the jacked up people that's you and me so uh let me
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just share a couple verses with you it's romans 12 1 and 2 paul's writing to the church at rome and he
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says i urge you brethren by the mercies of god to present your bodies as a living sacrifice holy and
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acceptable to god for this is your spiritual worship and he says do not be conformed to this
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world that's everything we're talking about right all the problems the lust of the eyes the lust of
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the flesh the pride of life do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of
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your mind that by testing you may able you may you may be able to discern what is the will of god
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it's beautiful for you to believe beautiful for you to believe thank you
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not everybody said not everybody subscribes to that that teaching that bible that book
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didn't you say people operate people operate outside of that book and they operate absolutely
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and they're wrong they're no they're not wrong you know you're wrong for saying that other people are
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wrong wait wait hold on why are you judging other people hold on hold on hold on that's self-righteous
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and pompous and bigotry let me let me let me let me judge too one second one second one second one
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second let me mediate here you said earlier in the conversation you love jesus correct i do yeah
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jesus said if you love me you will keep my commands i love all people but hold on you said you
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love jesus i don't judge people hold on though i love what jesus stands for okay what jesus stands
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for is telling people to turn away from sin though well then i'm i'm incorrect you can
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no i thought what jesus i thought what jesus stood for is that you you're all going to sin yes you're
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going to sin you're going to make mistakes and i'm coming here to to shed like isn't it that he comes
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here to shed his blood because we're all sinners so he makes the great sacrifice for us and that
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doesn't mean that you get to sit here and be like oh well he did that so now i'm just going to be a
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piece of shit but he's like no you're going to keep sinning in one way or another even if it's
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like a little one or a big one probably until the day you die and that's why i came here for you
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i thought that was his yes he did he did hold on he did give his life he shed his blood on the cross
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to pay for our sins so that you know that it says in the bible that the wages of sin are death
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right everybody who sins they deserve technically to go to hell in god's eyes christ gave his life so
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that we he could pay the sacrifice for our sins and if we believe in him and repent of our sins and
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have faith in his resurrection then we can go to heaven but to continue willingly sinning to choose to
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sin is it's a rejection of his sacrifice it but the way i look at it it kind of like spits in his
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face almost that is totally understandable my only concern is like with the utmost respect to you both
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is like who are you to make that judgment if somebody's you know what i mean i'm not i'm not
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worthy of judging anybody i'm like i'm not worthy of judging anyone you're doing it wrong you know but
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like how do you know but can't on an individual level can't you say well maybe this isn't good
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for you maybe this isn't good for society which on which aspect i'm sorry well you're
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you so i just i just when she said so she had said something like um not everyone subscribes to the
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book right we were talking about just like subscribes to the exact religion okay and he said well then
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they're doing it wrong it's like what what if that person just has like a higher power they believe
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in god but maybe they don't quite understand like the bible who are we to say that they're doing it
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wrong maybe they're right on god's path well there's probably secular there's probably secular secular
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arguments that you can make against sure prostitution too i'm not i'm not an evangelist so i don't have
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those same beliefs as you do okay and i'm never gonna win so to final quick yeah yeah to to answer
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your question who are we to judge hold on one second hold on one second to answer your question
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who are we to judge andrew and i are not qualified to judge like i i will be the first to admit i'm not
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qualified to judge another person because i'm not god i don't know like i'm grateful to have heard
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your guys's life stories because it makes sense why you've gone down the path that you've gone down
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like i can't judge that because i didn't go through it our only job is not to judge but to share what
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the word of god says because the word of god leads people to heaven i want you guys to have heaven okay
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so you're not saying like oh what you're thinking is wrong like you're just sharing that like that's
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how it resonates with within with no what i'm saying is within god's eyes it's wrong sorry it's wrong
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within god's eyes that's what we're saying okay there's a i'm gonna say can i say one thing go ahead
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there's a fine line with this because if you guys remember in matthew 21 31 jesus told the
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pharisee and tax collectors for what okay no no we're moving on we're moving on so i'm just
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saying we can't judge people too we have to into the mic we can't hear you we can't hear you you
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got to speak into the mic if you are going to speak you got to speak into the mic we we can't
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judge people we have to bring what we believe we can't judge people in the right way are we
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allowed we are we are called yeah we are talking about the way yeah the way that you spoke to
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amy and i think they were you can you can tell that well because listen did you hear her background
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yes but but just stop for a second i'm gonna get really upset right now because listen you guys do
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not know how to speak to someone that's been in the sex industry with all due respect you don't
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understand what these ladies we've offered you christ we'd offer you we've offered and when and
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when you understand what that looks like to a woman what love looks like since they've been so hurt
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and so bashed by men in their lives they she's not going to receive it do you see that she's
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receiving what you're saying it's not up to me i'm getting upset because you don't understand her
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no i don't god sees her heart she does love jesus for what she knows that may be let her let her figure
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it out don't bash her with the bible we're trying to help her i think there's a miscommunication but i
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told i think they've been pretty polite i mean yeah coming from and it's not just about you guys here
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it's for this platform think about it they have a platform with like thousands of people watching
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right now so it's not just for you guys but the influence and what that they want to impart on the
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people who are here it's not just about like i understand what you're saying i do agree that
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they've actually been pretty empathetic towards the whole situation um but i can totally also see how
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it's very triggering and why that would cause a lot of intense emotions to come up but it's really
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it's not just about you guys it's for the platform as well i encourage you to just keep doing what
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you're doing because hopefully your word will make men stronger yes and make them stand up and be
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the men that women need them to be and that will allow women to be submissive and to want to follow
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does that make sense yeah does that make sense like so i'm in completely encouragement of what you're
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spreading um and i i agree i think you've been very respectful and i just want to say thank you
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too so much seriously for sharing your story it it's really crazy to think of everything that
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you've been through the fact you're still sitting here right now and i what i would really just hope
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more than anything is this goes out as some type of a message to maybe younger girls who are getting
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into the sex work industry yes you have both been through so much and you are a product of the
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circumstances that you've been through and you've tried to make the most of that and i have respect for
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you for that reason but i just really hope that this can serve as an example for some of the younger
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girls that like this isn't the road that you want to ultimately grow down i'm going to say one last
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thing about it and then we can move on because i know brian's fed up with the religious talk look
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andrew and i are in no way authorized to tell anybody who's going to heaven or hell because that's
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not our judgment we can tell you what god says about that the thing jesus did with the woman at the
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well he told her eternal life is in me go and sin no more all andrew and i are trying to do is say
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eternal life is in christ go and sin no more that's it we're not qualified to judge your lives
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well no one's asked me a single thing about me falling in love that's good okay for the first
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time in my life fall in love with jesus you'll win on that one girl think about that you fall in love
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with him you fall in love with him because he's perfect and they're not straight ask her dating
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questions she's ready is what she's saying she's ready for the dating i don't even know what the
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fuck is going on uh you're like underwhelmed good times good times good times all right
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wait you're any right are you any someone left a chat for you too you did yeah okay we'll read that
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one um wait isn't your organization called isn't it jesus for hookers hookers for jesus oh and it
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means it's a fish hook it's a fish hookers for jesus yeah i would i would actually like to propose
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since we're talking about this a couple other non-profit organization names um what about what
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do you guys think about atheists for jesus that's a good one is that i like that one yeah let's see
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we could be more like jesus for atheists that'd probably be better i actually do think there's
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like an organization that's like they're atheist but they like jesus was so fucking dope that they
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love the fairy tale of him they don't like have a uh a framework for believing in god but they're like
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jesus's teachings were fucking lit yeah i'm sorry no no but they're like this is some it's yeah some
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good shit yeah common sense it results in societal flourishing so okay you want to get
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into the religious stuff dope in the same sentence all right let me do a couple chats here hi annie
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god bless you appreciate you've been following forever hi chase question for the panel what is
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a woman's purpose what are some things women should build in themselves before dating you know i think
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i think before the men answer i'd love to hear the women answer it can you repeat it one more time
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what is a woman's purpose yep and what are some things women should build in themselves before
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dating okay so i'm working on let's start with you and then we'll go all the we'll try to have
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everyone answer if you can be brief with your answers go ahead what is a woman's purpose start
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with that i have no comment that's fine if if you just nothing comes to mind that's fine blank i don't
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know blanked okay well people can have like their own individual purpose and then you can share a common
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person purpose with like the greater of all women so i don't know it really just depends what your
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personal purpose is and then me i'm trying to just like heal you know i'm trying to heal a lot of
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stuff i'm trying to i'm going to school so i want to get into my career and heal and i'm doing a lot of
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research on dating because i haven't really dated before so i'm trying to learn like what is dating
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what's like the appropriate protocol i'm also not sleeping with anybody and just kind of like working
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on myself so that's what i'm going to be doing before i start dating that's good i think a woman's
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purpose is to have children and i think to be the nurturer in the household relationship if she can't
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have children then be a um active aunt you know uh what have you in the family and then um to to
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really be i think a good person in a relationship i think you have to know your own boundaries and
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have firm boundaries and know where you stand on things um and just like she said heal like you have
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to heal through or have somebody that's willing to work on healing with you and get through those
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things together so those are any what about you i think a woman's purpose and it has changed by the
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way i used to think a different thing but she is a man's helpmate and she is the queen of the household
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he is the king and they lead the kingdom together and they both love god with all their heart amen
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that's good amen amy what would you say to the second question what are some things women should
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build in themselves before dating what does it say what are some things women should build well first of
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all i mean there's many things but for me personally when i started dating oz i was celibate for four
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years and it's because i was so broken in my relationships that i could not figure out how to
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be attractive to a man besides my sexuality so i focused on my healing and when my healing came
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that was so attractive to my husband it turned him on so much that i was such a strong woman that i knew
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who i was in christ he fell for me like you can ask him yourself like very fast and didn't tell me
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but i knew he was the one and he knew i was the one that's awesome he loved what i was doing too
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he loved that i was helping women air force amy what would you say a woman's purpose is
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um i believe women should be looking at guiding and nourishing their environment and creating
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uh and for like the second question um understand like what diligence means and how to be like
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too diligent to yourself and to others amy um wait what was the first part of the question what is
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a woman's purpose a woman's purpose so i would agree with everything that everyone here has said so
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far i think that when you go through things in your life you can use that to become your purpose
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like god has done with your life and i think that's very beautiful but generally speaking um
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i agree to be a wife supporter nurturer um you know if you're unable to have kids or um if that's not
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the path that you go down still finding some way to be able to evoke those types of emotions in your life
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and to what you would work on uh for me has been a lot of emotional intelligence and uh communication
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skills as well has been massive solid as far as what a woman's purpose is i would say first and
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foremost from a christian perspective of course to glorify god um god created women to be helpmates
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to men uh to be supportive to them to partner with them like she said a queen to a man who is her king
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um obviously also mothers as well um what are some things that women should build in in themselves
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before dating you know i think something no women do or very few women do is they ask themselves
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what would the kind of man that i want want in a woman i think that's a really really good question
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for women to ask themselves and equally i think it's a good question for men to ask themselves what
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would the kind of woman that i want want in a man uh before dating i think very few people ask themselves
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that i think what what women should work on cultivating femininity this is something especially
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a lot of working women like you know that they'll be like super in their masculine it's not super
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attractive to guys when they're in their masculine cultivating femininity learning how to be soft
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learning how to like you guys said be nurturing and caring um i you know of course want a woman who's
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very godly who loves jesus with her whole heart who lives for him somebody who's going to be a really
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good homemaker like those are the kind of things that i look for in a woman and a lot of guys do as well
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you know like a lot of guys want a woman that's going to be a good wife and be a good mother and
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understanding what that entails i think is important for women yeah before dating i mean
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women are cultivators you uh bring home the dough they turn it into bread you buy a house they turn
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it into a home yes and uh there's a there's another metaphor or picture of it's like the guy the husband
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the man is the the one in the jungle chopping down all the all the forest with the machete and the the
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woman's coming behind him and cultivating into a garden right that's the woman's job she takes a
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little bit that you give her she turns it into something beautiful that's awesome and she works
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best in the context of marriage yes and submission to one man and submission to one man is actually very
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liberating because you don't have to go out into the world and submit to every man
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so yeah but we do need like a lot of men to think like that because you know that's what we're here
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for yeah and not a lot of them know that that's why it's hard for women to actually like sit down
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with a guy because mostly men don't think like that they're all like oh like girls are just
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bitches to come and go like that's how every man that i've came across or just like seen or my friends
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talk about is that's the only man that's ever brought up i meet a lot of guys that seem like
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they want to be the woman yeah like like they're the sassy ones in the relationship if anything like
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all right we have another chat here bender the offender heard an wait brian you never answered it
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yeah what's your answer bro my answer uh what is a woman's purpose gotta pump out seven sons let's go
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yeah okay fighting for the throne yeah let's go dude um no i mean uh what is a woman's purpose
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seven sons i guess that's pretty good what is a woman what what is a baby machine to brian i'm i'm
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being guys okay before i get canceled i'm i'm being facetious here all right okay we have bender the
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offender heard an interesting quote the other day women treat social media similarly to how men treat
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porn what okay what do they mean by that yeah well i think because so i'm trying to think how to
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properly articulate this so guys they're high from porn wait okay women treats so i think men derive
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the dopamine hits the dopamine hits to the brain that you get from porn for men is equivalent to women
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when they get that attention currency it's true yeah because i think women make sense care more
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about getting attention but how many women in high school were asked to show a nude picture of
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yourself to somebody no no no no yo yo yo okay stop stop stop stop stop we can't talk can you guys stop
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it's gonna violate the terms of service like things that are adjacent to chill like i'm sorry i just think
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it starts a lot earlier that's that's okay we just that's cool we need to not talk about it on youtube
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because they can ban the channel anyways moving on you want to hit uh we got through both the super
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chats yeah let me get it um we don't need to pathologize everything people all right lenny i appreciate all
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the red flag votes now i need to clip it and send it to my future wife would love to be on the pod as
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with my brother ig lenny lips uh hey lenny thank you very much appreciate it man um you got a dm i mean
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would love to uh if you want you can try to shoot a dm to uh whatever but um yeah
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yeah dude that's what we call a rejection yeah yeah okay um sorry going back to my notes um caitlin you
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said and i don't know if you kind of already went over this you said you had a crazy ex of three years
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broke up 10 plus times i think that's we we didn't hear from that yes so you broke up 10 plus times
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so it was on again off again was it mostly him breaking up with you or you broke up with him
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every time you you always broke up with him yes and then who would come back to who he would um create
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fake accounts on social media he would call me from his his parents phone his sister's phone
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his friend's phone his sister's emails um until i would like break and then like give him some
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sort of attention until he could manipulate and like and then i would feel like okay like maybe he's
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changed and then i was just dumb on that aspect you did that 10 times good time yeah damn yeah have you
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learned from it yes yeah yes what have you learned well i learned not to take guys back that cheat on me
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and then manipulate me and i think if i'm getting reached out first time one time through his sister's
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email then that's not good yeah that's it although like i will say with with the girl i was dating who
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had uh bpd i this is gonna sound fucking crazy but like when they're harassing you to that point
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it's kind of like are you down huh are you down for what when a woman's harassing you that much no
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no no no no no no not at all but it's kind of easier to get back with them than to continue
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dealing with the harassment yeah they're so persistent it's like it's okay they're gonna stop
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i know that sounds fucking crazy no it was wrong worst relationship it was 100 you're not wrong
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you're well it i mean you you need to be steadfast in no this is over leave me the
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fuck alone yeah but like i i do get like when they're just relentless like you block them because
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for most people you block them that's that should be enough but some people will i with my girl she'd
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call from other people's numbers yeah she'd go borrow some random dude's number from the street
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who's this was it oh that would scare the out of me it's me they'd come by your place and
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shit great rock was the best word i ever learned what was it gray rock no gray rock when you learned
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a gray rock somebody that's like that that is neutralized like you just you're you do that
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you're a gray rock you literally like you just give them nothing you give them nothing you blend into
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the background you feed nothing because it's difficult and that's not just with borderline personality
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disorder that's narcissism that's with so many other personality disorders but um yeah great
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i once i realized that um somebody i was with was a narcissist i learned gray rocking because it's the
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love bombing and that's part of the love bombing they're like we promise everything will be better
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and then you're back together and it's the honeymoon for a little while and then you can almost like
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set your stopwatch to the cycle so um but gray rocking was incredible you just lay back you block
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number if an unknown number comes up you send it to voicemail you block all emails it's it sounds
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there's so many people out there that are like that though like is that like a generational thing
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like a generational issue right now is that a new thing that more people are kind of like that
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my guy was almost i mean i think he's 16 years old when i am so there's people that are just
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relentless and don't won't take no for an answer yeah uh let's see here uh you say it's rare to have
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an actual genuine relationship and i think you said that's what you want right um but uh
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i have to ask them you got back with him 10 plus times be honest there was there something exciting
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about the drama for you oh yeah it definitely like fed into like the like well because there's
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like so many up and downs like it's like the excitement is like so exciting and it's like so awesome
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and it's so happy but then it's also because it's right next to something that's so bad so it looks
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amazing you know what i mean i don't know so many women are addicted to the emotional roller coaster
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man the worst now i'm not i heard this quote and it says you can do anything to or you can do anything
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to a woman but bore her it's real uh don't take it don't take it no i'm not like obviously i'm just
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saying like for me that's not what i'm saying there's a lot of things i could think of that i
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just would not be interested anymore of course i think it's a generalization yeah
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when you had all these problems did you ever confine in your mother for these things
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like is that a uh my mom's like not a mom so no i went to my mom when my relationship was like
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heading that way yeah and she's was she a milk though no okay nevermind nevermind and she told
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me that i'm trying a little bit here she told you to do what sorry she told me i hadn't tried hard
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enough oh and then i needed to stick with it i think we should move on past the trauma dumping
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yeah she is uh wait she okay okay okay okay i'm cool i'm cool don't don't worry about don't worry
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about okay uh steve cassio everyone reading should know that christians will not be married in the
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afterlife the holy journey is an individual one and when you submit to a man you do so in christ's
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command thoughts christ commanded that we must follow in truth and faith um my friend uh i you might not
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if you're you might just be tuning in you might not caught it earlier i do want to try to keep
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things more dating related um thank you for the soup chat thoughts uh 10 seconds from chase or and
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andrew on this but 10 seconds sometimes i think to myself man it would suck to not be married to the
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ftg that was terrible timing but thank you very much for the 50 so so i yeah thinking about that that
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that is one of the things the bible says that we won't be married in heaven and i think to myself
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man that kind of sucks because like what if you really really love your spouse and then you're
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just like not married to them in heaven anymore and then i think to myself maybe god is being maybe
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he's giving us grace with that because think about all the people that are in terrible marriages that
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it would just suck to be in that marriage for eternity wait question so when you die literally
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forever oh till death do us part that's that's what you say when you get remarried in heaven no
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no you can't there's no marriage there's no marriage no it's so happy you don't need to be
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married oh you just love god and you just have the best time ever can people have i don't think
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there's sex in heaven there's no sex in heaven i don't believe so i think there's something better
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i hope so dude it says that there's a there's a there's a river that runs through the new jerusalem
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i'm trying to catch some waves on that thing let's go is it chocolate what the
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fuck was this willy wonka stop all right okay okay uh were you gonna say something
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yeah quick if you can heaven is not gonna be some just you know aqueous ambiguous thing it's
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he's making all things new it's gonna be new heavens and new earth so it's gonna be lit
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word word hope to see everybody there let's see here uh okay we had some notes here
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sorry guys i'm just getting caught up on my things uh
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oh my back alina wait who's alina oh okay it's trendalina okay you so you mentioned in your
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pre-show thing why are men today so afraid to commit yes uh and i want to open this up to the
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panel do you maybe just show of hands do you think men struggle with commitment yeah
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show of hands literally all of the women saying yes do you think women struggle with commitment too
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i don't struggle i know i look it's like this i got a lot of male friends women oftentimes look
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to men hoping that they will want to commit i know a lot of dudes that are like yeah like i'm down to
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hang out with her and have sex with her but like i don't really want anything more than that but women
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see that and they're just like really hoping that that man is going to want to love them and hold on
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to them forever a lot of dudes just like want to use women you know they want to change it women have
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that eternal hope of changing and being that i can fix him i can fix him i can be the one that makes
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him commit that's that's what that's what a woman's heart that's what a woman's heart like truly
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desires is to be the one that like makes him want to want her forever yep you know but like a lot of
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like what women oftentimes don't understand about men is like a lot of dudes like they'll find you
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attractive they'll want to sleep with you for a bit keep you around as long as it's a fun time but
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they don't really want anything more than that right you know and it's important for women to guard
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their hearts from that that's women get very hurt by guys what'd you say that's what i do what i do
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when i tell them like i don't want like i'm just trying to smoke nothing more yeah and i think
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generally speaking like even like they're all high quality men out there for sure who would be down
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for commitment but i think that a big problem that a lot of men have is when they look at the dating
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climate like you know hypergamy is prevalent now more than ever promiscuity is more prevalent now more
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than ever so i feel like for a guy sometimes they just really want to get to know a girl that it's
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the right person before they dive into that commitment also a product of the times i do want to ask so
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who here's been i mean i think everyone well maybe not air force amy who here's been in a long-term
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relationship i think probably everybody right sorry i didn't mean to throw you under the bus there amy
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well i get paid to stay as well as i get paid to go away okay that is one of the benefits i guess of
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someone who procures your services um so uh of okay so not just when it comes to long-term relationships
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but of all the times where you've had to end things with a guy or say i don't want to see you anymore
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anymore so that could be from the first date all the way to you've been married for 20 years
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um or you've been in a relationship for three months six months a year more often than not are you
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the one ending things or is the guy the one ending things all the way from first date hey had a good
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time i don't think it was a good fit all the way to babe been together for two years breaking up
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yeah usually when i go on a date i that's when i hang out with you or when i go on a date with you
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that's when like um i decide after the day if i want to continue talking to you or i i usually just
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block them like when i'm not feeling like straight just like i don't like because i don't want to
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like just tell them like rain down and a godly firestorm upon you you're telling me you will not
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reject the guys vocally you'll if you don't like them you'll just block them and like they will
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yeah like i don't even want to tell them like damn how many guys have you done this to mostly
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every guy that i don't find like i don't want to talk to anymore so that's pretty brutal
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that shit hurts oh it's just like have you considered just telling them hey like thanks for
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the date honestly i'm not interested like when they're really like i've only had to do that like
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twice because they were like really sweet or they're my friends you know like we were trying to
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like can't block your friends yeah you know like a dude who from the jump he was romantically
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interested maybe you hung out once but you just weren't feeling it that's the dude you're gonna
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block yeah well yeah you just said you're not gonna block how many how many guys that you've smoked
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with have you blocked oh she's hit up every yeah every how many how many dudes do you think you've
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blocked have you seen my block list yeah wait let's see it we'll upload that block list while
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she's answering caitlin do you want to answer his question wait what was the question again okay you
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want to rephrase it okay so it's kind of complicated yeah because there's it's multifaceted so of all the
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times that you've had to say i don't want to see you anymore or initiate a breakup obviously you're not
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breaking up with somebody who you've gone on one date with but of all the times you've you've been
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the one to say no when it comes to either just first date hey i i had a good time but i i don't
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think uh i don't know what's a common thing what girls will say on the first date if they're not
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feeling the guy i just want i don't think it was a good yeah i don't know what the fuck i just want
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to be friends i'm not sure how often are you the one to turn the guys down all the way to you've also
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a long-term relationship ending the long-term relationship um i mean i've ended every long
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term or every time me and my ex would break up that was me um what about other situationships
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flings i think i've pretty much been the one to end it i'm trying to think yeah i'm trying to think
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of a time there's never been a guy who's like i don't want to keep seeing you i don't want to
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like not really and not that i can think of no that's fine um do you have your block list yeah
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but how many dudes are on it it's not my service is okay i mean it doesn't but i bet it's like more
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than like a hundred more than a hundred uh but that's just like girls i don't like or just people
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like i just like speaking of the mice yeah scoot into the table a little more i'd be like i'd block
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like just girls or just like okay you know like hate but mostly but okay more often than not are you
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saying hey i know first date all the way to long-term relationship okay what about you um
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i don't even know i think a lot of the times it's probably me ending the relationship or and
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for a second third date ending relationships um yeah just breaking up okay in general i would say
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i'm either ending it or i make them like just not want to be yeah like i make them just crazy enough
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where they don't want to come out in here yeah yep oh okay i gladly ended many relationships towards
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before i met oz it was fun actually because i got them back because they were rude sure and the other
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component of this question is also not just relationships but also let's say you go on the
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first date with guy he asked for a second maybe you got two two dates three dates more often than than
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not are you the one also in that instance saying hey i had a nice time but not not interested yes
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i'm saying no before even going on to the date i'm just saying i'm not going on a date sure same
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with you oh we uh got a little further than the first couple dates and these men were both telling
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me that they were supposed to marry me that they said god told them okay i was supposed to marry them
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and i said uh i'm not hearing that sure air force amy air force amy uh what about you the one
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relationship i had i ended but like on a daily i deal with rejection daily you get emails and
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why i was like daily all the day long okay um yeah i would agree with the girls i end it or i would
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just kind of fade out if i didn't know how to like end it so both for long-term relationships like this
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the one i'm in now is my second long-term relationship and like i would never end it
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in my mind um so like casually dating then yeah just like at the end of the day it's like
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we're not vibing are you okay with that okay amy what about you i've been in like four or five
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long-term relationships i'd say it's about 50 50 50. yeah okay so the reason i'm asking this is
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because you said that uh trendelina you said why are men today so afraid to commit well once we do commit
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it it given all the answers you've provided women overwhelmingly end relationships and initiate
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divorce so for a cohort of people who seem so adamant about commitment you sure like to end said
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commitments at very disproportionate rates damn and men get absolutely destroyed in divorce
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alimony court costs lawyers fees so i mean the question why should men commit if you guys are the
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ones ending everything why are men today so afraid to commit maybe because women disproportionately end
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relationships and initiate divorces i think most of the time women are gonna like end and like when
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i've ended things it's because it doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere so if they kept it
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a monogamous then you can have that conversation and move i think i think if there was infidelity that
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is a perfectly just justifiable reason to end a marriage or a divorce um however it's not clear
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to me if all the instances for all the girls here at the table when y'all didn't want to pursue
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something or you ended a relationship i can't imagine in all instances it was due to infidelity or
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some sort of abuse no mainly just like respect as well yeah like why would i go on a few more dates
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with someone have them invest in me if i can feel already it's not worth it well that's to be fair
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the panel did raise their hands for both men and women are afraid to commit if in fairness but i think in
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general i it seemed more i think you know i want to i want to make just make one point yeah you you
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want to get the commitment when you get the commitment you break it all of a sudden oh
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oh i'm kind of bored i don't know i don't know if you like that i'm gonna be honest when you get
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the commitment women overwhelmingly initiate divorce they overwhelmingly end relationships
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all of you just we went around the table y'all said i would end it i would end the relationship
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maybe sometimes hey the guy was a jerk maybe he was cheating on you but maybe there were times when
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a better option came along hypergamum has that happened yeah yeah i got i don't think that's
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what anyone has said but someone all right all right i gotta i gotta point to make to you guys
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there's this question that's been floating around the table why are so many men afraid to commit
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one of the answers that i have to that is because many women are willing to give up sex without
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commitment most young women today are willing to have sex with men without any commitment
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involved whatsoever and so if you give a man sex which is what he wants without any sort of a
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commitment that subconsciously signals to those men you can have the thing that you want from me
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without any commitment to me right that's a problem you guys put yourselves in a disadvantaged
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situation by giving that up keep that in mind okay but if guys do want to do that then they're like
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i'm i'll take the girl she's willing to give it to me anyways then they're willing to also take
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whatever like disease or anything like that so like they're being just as dumb don't you think yeah
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there's a lot of dumb dudes out there for sure yeah but they can't bear children right they're not
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risking having a baby inside of them so it isn't that like feminism is great for promiscuous men they they
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love it you know feminism has made business boom for promiscuous men um but ultimately when women
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are promiscuous they're devaluing themselves you're saying my body is not valuable i it's it's for
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everybody to see whenever you dress promiscuously or if you you know sell your body online you know
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you're saying my body is a cheap commodity that you can get for free or for just a few bucks
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according to you no it's it's like i am expensive i mean the thing is though is like it's it's basic
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supply and demand you know if there's scarcity of something if you won't give your body up to any
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man unless he's the right one like that's a very rare and valuable commodity if a woman will give it
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up to anybody who wants it it like it it's it's like it's like a ferrari right not everybody can buy
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a ferrari they're very expensive they're very valuable as a result people anybody can buy a bicycle
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right it's much less valuable if if anybody can't come in any excuse me can you not be texting during
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the podcast we just changed okay all right sorry does that make sense though like like it's it's
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not an indictment of like you as a person but you like women who are willing to give men sex without
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any commitment from them like they're decreasing the value of that but i do want a commitment of
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financial i want a financial commitment and not everybody can get laid there's supply and demand
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any any any thoughts on that hendrew so here we go what was that there that you need cash
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she's saying it's not free you gotta pay for it yeah well yeah you you have to even in marriage
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there's an exchange of money there like um but it actually costs a man way more to marry a woman than
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to just hook up with a woman on the side right it's a lot more to get divorced too yeah so if you
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if you're a woman and you save yourself for marriage and you're you don't dress promiscuously you don't
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sell your pictures online you're treating your body as a high value commodity yes and you know um men
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will treat a lot more for a man what what's what's the value of something the value is what someone's
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willing to pay for it what are you willing to pay for this cup that's the value yeah the value you can also
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assign that this is the thing you can also assign that value as a woman you can tell yourself and
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other men i will not give you my body without any without a firm commitment right a woman who refuses
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to have sex with men outside of marriage sex with her is going to be very valuable but if if a woman
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is just willing to sleep with any guy who will give her attention her sex is much less valuable than
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the woman who won't give it to a guy without commitment right so it goes back to the central
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question why are so many men afraid to commit because you guys not you guys but just generally
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well some of you guys but generally speaking most young women nowadays are willing to have sex with
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men without any sort of a commitment involved and so you're giving the guy the thing that he wants
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without you getting the thing in return that you want but don't you feel like you're undermining
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men a little bit like because you're kind of making it out that men look at women as a commodity
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say that again i'm sorry you feel like you might be undermining men a little bit like
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saying you're giving it what they want men just want sex like they often that comes to their
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primal con or nature like that is very natural within no they don't get a pass it's still wrong
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it's wrong for men to it's it's wrong for men to run through but women are the gatekeepers of sex at
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the end exactly this is just one second just make a great point just hold it one second glad to see
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you back base chase you need to become a co-host we need you accept brian's offer women on the panel
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what do you bring to a relationship and what do you think men want from you w chase and hash christ
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is king in the chat let's go thank you we'll we'll pull this back up chase had the point we'll come
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back to it yeah you you just delivered a great point which is that women are the gatekeepers of
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sex you guys choose who you will have sex with you choose what men get sex men are the gatekeepers
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of commitment so you guys get to choose who you're going to have sex with we choose who gets commitment
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and if you don't give men sex you're not going to have to worry about dudes who won't commit
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you're going to filter them out but the guy if you if you're giving men to sex outside of marriage
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or a committed relationship all the guys that aren't interested and committed they're going to
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take advantage of that does that make sense and value isn't just in monetary terms either like to
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what you were saying as well like when we're talking about being a high value woman being a high value
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man what's worth having doesn't come easy most of the time and that's just the fact with all things
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in life like the sky is blue my hair is brown i didn't make it so it's just how the world works yes the most
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valuable things the most valuable things are very difficult to attain if sex with a woman is very
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difficult to attain that is going to make the right kind of man really want to get it by doing the
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things he needs to do right christian women if they're reserving sex for marriage they're going
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to weed out all of the guys that don't want to commit to them that just want to use them they're only
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going to get the guys that really want them as a person you know it's good i had a ring on that said
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true love weights and when i had my first date with oz i put it in his face and i said you see
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this ring you ain't getting nothing for me until i see a ring there you go this is this is like like
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that's how you get a good man i have them on i have so much i have so much empathy for this problem
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that women have like wondering where where all the real men and the men who want to commit like it's
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it's so many women struggle to find guys who actually want to commit to them but the thing is like
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i wish all young women under today understood this because so many women get heartbroken over and over
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by guys that just want to take advantage of them it's like if you as a woman made the commitment
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to yourself i'm not going to have sex until marriage you're going to filter out every every
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single guy that isn't right for you every single guy who doesn't truly love you for who you are
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and want to keep you for the rest of your life every guy who doesn't fit that bill he's gone but
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the one who really really loves you and wants to keep you for the rest of your life that's the one
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who's going to stick around i just i just got to come in as a sinner here um i'm i'll commit to a
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woman and we could we could have sex before marriage i'm just saying just saying i was wondering
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a lot of guys will a lot of guys guys so those rotten guys they can come see me okay i i just i have a
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a slight issue with what chase just said only because i was married under the guise of god right
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and we lived a christian like lifestyle and it was still the wrong person yeah it does happen
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like i think to throw it out there as a generalization i think is is insincere because
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there are still the situations out there that uh we were in a committed relationship um he like i
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mean for sexual reasons um i had other instances that had led to him not being my first but not
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you're you're catching what i'm saying yeah um but he was by all intents and purposes my only and for a
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very very very long time so i think that you saying that the right man will come to you when
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you uh when you abandon all those other things i think can still be i think it's a great message
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it's a fair point i see what you're saying a little bit of fairy i see i see i see i wouldn't say it's
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fairy tale i see what you're saying what i would just say is it's not going to make you find it the
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perfect guy but it's definitely going to filter out all of the wrong guys in my opinion you still need
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christ right if you have christ to center your relationship you know uh it's not going to fall
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apart both of you are in well we did and even clearly he didn't though he didn't and and even
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his family like they've ousted me still to this day not because of what i do but because i divorced
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their son regardless of his actions they know he cheated on you with 12 women and they um they
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were the front pew of the church every sunday they're the one you know cooking for every potluck
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you know taking taking it so i just like i i just still find fault in it and i i yeah i'm not
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saying i'm not saying it's a perfect solution i'm just saying most women give sex away too easily to
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men who have no interest in committing at all in the first place quick question uh in christianity
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if there's infidelity is that that's grounds for divorce according to jesus okay thank you got
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it um okay we have let me see here the one that came up before i'll get that really quick uh the
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question for the panel is women on the panel what do you bring to a relationship and what do you think
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men want from you that's good all right we'll start with you we'll go around go ahead i feel like we
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should start from the other side this time you think yeah yeah they have to wait like an hour until
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it gets to them okay okay sure we'll go around we'll try to go around quick i think just like honor and
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respect is a huge one um i think very often times it's also what not to do as well i've spoken about
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this extensively i think that women are very quick to disrespect their man um whether that is personally
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or publicly uh you know disparaging him in any type of way i think honor and respect is the number one
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thing for me that's what you bring to a relationship and you think that's what men want in a relationship
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okay um i couldn't agree with you more because we're long distance we're always talking and like
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listening to each other so he tells me like i make him feel respected he feels like supported and like
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not judged so that's what i bring to a relationship if i had a relationship and it was um
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monogamous it would be um god it would be fun i'll tell you what it would be exciting and um
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i'm very very affectionate and very committal and loyal and um would you would you stop doing the kind
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of work you're doing if you're in a relationship if i found the guy oh yeah 100 100 yeah her dms are
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open right your dms are open can we yo can we get amy a date that's the problem that's why i'm on the
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show is because i don't know how to date how would i go on a date with somebody and delineate between
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an out date where someone spends money if he whips out his wallet it ain't like it ain't a date you know
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you know it's like that's fine but but then i go through the bunny ranch and it's like i get paid
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and then i can't see the guy outside again without paying them so i'm like totally just like wait you
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pay you're paying for the dates no if i go if i if someone pays me and then it has to go through the
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bunny ranch and then if they ever see me again it still has to go through the bunny ranch so you're
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not meeting anyone outside of the bar i don't meet anyone outside the bunny i i'm going to give you
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a 30-second breakdown on how to get you a man i don't know if it's going to be the ideal man
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but we're going to get you man okay we need you i need you on tinder bumble hinge farmers only and
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christian mingle farmers only that's the whole problem that's why i'm on here okay maybe not
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christian mingle no here's i take that one back that's why i'm on here is because are you on no i'm on
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some very expensive dating apps and guys that i'm very interested in you don't need that you don't
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once i i have to like a matchmaker you got a matchmaker once i i'm interested in somebody
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i would have to say what i do and then once they find out who i am and my name my real name is
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totally interchangeable with air force amy so there's no way i can hide out hide who i am
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and then it's going to be like like you guys like bash prostitutes and they're about the same
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level as drug dealers so it'd be like oh oh yeah so i could just go ahead so i can just go
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ahead so i can just go ahead and have sex with her because she's already a prostitute and it would
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just be okay so who cares so i think you're gonna find someone so how could i ever i'm gonna give you
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some game i'm gonna give you some game i'm gonna give you some game air force amy i got you
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how could anyone ever be serious i got you i got you i am your new matchmaker now what's up with
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your dad brian no how can i find anyone that's ever serious because they could be like oh that's
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air force amy i'm gonna play this chick because she's already prostitute i'm gonna sleep with her
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anyhow for say me i got you if i knew where my dad was air force amy i'd hook him up with you you
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you mentioned like you said you mentioned the difference between like there's no way and plus
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you guys have all said that i've slept with way too many people i'm totally unmarriageable that is
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probably not so i mean it's just like a no deal i'm just like no that we never said that we never
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said that everyone everyone can be redeemed in christ we never said we never said that well
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definitely not marrying matt it means i'm over we'll never say never with over 60 people for sure
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well i won't marry you come on man come on when i burnt myself on the cross come on
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i will not do that do this because there you go brian you can do it it's all you're doing okay
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absolutely impossible it's just this double-edged sword it's never gonna happen
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listen and i would i believe in you air force amy i believe in you and i would be air force amy
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i have been taking care of myself my entire life do you think i just don't want to hang up those
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shoes and be like dude are you looking for a sugar baby by the way i'm rich dude i don't need a
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sugar bit like you're the sugar mama oh no these guys come after me like crazy they're the sugar
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babies they're like hot and you know they all want me so why not why not there you go maybe you gotta
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get a sugar baby son i know i need someone with some intelligence dude oh intelligence someone needs
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to take over the show brian's a sugar baby someone's gonna take over the show i've been running
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are you looking to be a sugar mama because i'm always on the lookout for a sugar mama
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i want someone to help run this show i've been doing it for way too long word okay brian you trying
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to help run the show dog you know we just need to leave brian get down on one knee um what said brian
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get down on one knee i think what you gotta do in the meantime brian brian brian brian and amy
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come on brian step up to the plate dog be a man you should have a button that's like
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listen amy we need to get you on would you ever date a guy would you date a guy who's overweight
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who's obese well you know what ozempic okay ozempic does the trick nowadays stop it right now
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what what do you think about men who read comic books where are you going with this bro i have no
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hold on hold on serious serious point amy hold on hold on okay is your instagram tag uh did you give
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it to brian it's in there they need to put an application all right all right fellas amy is
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looking for a husband she's looking for a man that's ready to take over this show slide into
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her dms slide into her dms okay there you have it i get that every day already oh so are you responding
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you know what you got to do you know what you got to do amy filter
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no sex until marriage then you'll see who's real and who's not yup there you go yup
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then what do i do i get to keep working because i like sex
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it depends on what the guy is looking for because he might not be down with that
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do you find cucks attractive what cucks what do you find a cuck attractive but spell that c-u-c-k
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he can't say it like he would like to watch her like bang dudes out or what yeah i guess like
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her husband would like be like a boy while you're there are cucks out there there are a lot of them
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out there maybe there's a lot of them out there's a lot of them out there a guy who is down to date
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you and likes to watch you a guy that's weird take it no but a guy who is turned on by the fact
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that you're no we used to have one like that oh my goodness yeah we had we had a husband i'm just
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saying yeah given your we had a closet made for them in a little hole and he watched her work
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you might have to marry you might have to you might have to get with the cuck you might have
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to go to settle for that though she shouldn't have to settle for that well um she could prioritize
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with the profession i would recommend if we're seriously talking about marriage not settling for
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a cuck because that's not going to be a man that's going to take over the show or a man with
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any self-respect no i think he's going to be like a matchmaker because it's just like
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waiting for the win i would stay up all the apps and then prioritize because at the moment you said
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that you want someone and then you said you want to keep working all right and then you said you
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don't want these guys guys guys guys guys guys ladies ladies ladies all right this is a ridiculous
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conversation if we do want to talk about it seriously for a moment if we want to talk about
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it seriously for a moment here's what i would say retire period you said you said that you're rich i'm
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going to take your word on that if you are serious about this i'm telling you no more working for a
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little while see who dms you no sex until marriage because then you're not going to get any dudes that
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are jerking your chain you'll know who's serious and who's not no working for a while either because
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no dude who's seriously interested in you and wants to make you his wife is going to want you banging a
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bunch of johns okay so if you can if you can stick that out for like one or two years i don't know how
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expensive your lifestyle is so you got some nice jewelry maybe hold off on buying some more you know
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stick out for one or two years you might be able to find a husband the only other option
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besides that and i'll let you come in after this you are going to have to move to some small
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fucking country in europe change your name change your identity and i don't even know if that'll work
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uh you're gonna that i don't think i think that's it i think i kind of have a plan oh yeah what's your
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plan what's your plan um i'm gonna uh write the book you're gonna write a book write a book sell the rights
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sell the rights yeah and just sounds like a song yeah lifetime you probably you probably write a
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crazy autobiography yeah that and i have some other um things i want to produce and like so write the
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book sell it meet the guy and just like travel and and write and and do that is what i want to
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pray hey hey pray for him yeah and your sword cookers let's pray for him here let's come back to the
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original question what do you bring to a relationship so uh amy uh annie excuse me what do you um my
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well my princessness and i serve my husband uh with my love and i i'm his helpmate and he had brain
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cancer and i researched doctors and he submitted to me research researching the neurosurgeons so he is
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alive today because of what i did for him wow you are an amazing wife what about you thank you
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i bring communication um and i think that that's a huge missing link in today's societal and
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relationships i think like you had said is as early as um stating that you're in a committed
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relationship and you're not dating other people all the way to you know continuing keeping that line
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of communication open is huge i think okay all right being able to open up sure um i bring authenticity
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and i'm quite serving as well like often authenticity like i'm just myself all the time it's not gonna be
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like oh you get to know me a little bit longer and then i'm a completely different person like i am
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who i say i am um and i'm very loyal so funny not to brian but some might wait what nothing i was
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saying not to brian but some might think i'm well when you think okay do i go here wait you can do
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you have any plastic surgery yes yeah lip fillers yeah bbl what bbl no but thank you no but okay
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lipo yes to put into the into the today's yes can you really be authentic you know what i mean
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okay i see what you're saying you went there right that's understandable you know what i mean
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understandable um but i was truthful about it you know so you asked me and i was like yeah absolutely
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i did do that and so that is me at this point right perhaps in your well in your physical appearance
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you're inauthentic in the sense of like are you all naturally yourself um well yeah i mean i answered
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that i said i said no i kind of meant more authentic in personality like there's no smoke and mirrors i'll
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be like true like like you're honest and upfront about who you are i'm true to myself um but yeah
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i do like partake in some there's very few women who are truly authentic i mean we all color our hair
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we all wax our eyebrows most girls wear makeup like there's degrees there's degrees of authenticity but
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well because what i was ryan wants the armpit hair what the no no no whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
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there's grooming and then there's bbls and like all that kind of crazy
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shit what what i see on dating apps i'll see like a woman who's like oh i'm really about people who are
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real and genuine and authentic and every single photo of them on the dating app full face of makeup
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filter lip filler fake tits i'm like bruv bruv you are not authentic in your physical appearance
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you are in fact you're kind of misrepresenting your physical appearance on the dating app and it's it's
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pretty i think it's very inauthentic you could not just in your physical appearance but the fact that
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you are misrepresenting because obviously for both men and women physical appearance is very important
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physical attractiveness is very important i think probably most girls here would agree i think men
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probably care a little bit more about physical appearance than women do i would say a lot more i think
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women care about it quite a lot but i think probably men are pretty invested in it so when you're
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misrepresenting on these dating apps oh big old fake titties lip fillers makeup face filters wait
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are you there's not one photo of you that's like here's me without any makeup i think that's uh that's
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akin to a man basically lying about his career oh i'm rich i'm a doctor i'm an attorney um don't you
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think that like maybe like the guy would be like i want to get on a facetime with you get to know you a
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little bit before we go out onto a date and then maybe face and makeup and they're using good
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lighting and not like that's fair i think something for me personally um so i've uh something that i
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struggle with because obviously i am a content creator and i'm on like tick tock and different
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things like that and so when i came into the sphere as making that kind of content i was like struggling
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with like why don't i look like all the other girls i'm seeing and so i fell into like those things
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um and so it seems like it does help you make more money to do that but then something that i was able
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to kind of like test out with my particular following um is a lot of them wanted me to start
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going live a lot of them wanted me to go live on twitter and i was just really honest with them and i was
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like look i feel awkward because there's always like a filter on and things like that and so like
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i'm sitting here like being vulnerable and i'm not on a filter and blah blah and um i was just really
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honest about it because i was like i feel like look one this way but now i'm representing like my true
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self and people were really kind they were like we like you better this way like keep coming on twitter
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like you know so i don't know if it really is necessarily it's kind of and this is exactly
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you any kind of like answer to some of that or more information i'm not sure but this is exactly
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why we ought to elevate women who are just moving in their natural beauty and don't feel like if we're
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elevating fucking kim kardashian of course fucking a ton of young women who are impressionable are gonna
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be like whoa i don't look like that okay let me go get a fucking bvl let me go get some fake tits
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let me go get lip filler let me up my face let me go get bodged i don't think we should be i don't
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know what are these 20 year olds gonna look like in 20 years with all this filler like it's going to
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be insane can i say i think guys are a lot nicer about me so i look like really bad on this show
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what you look amazing this studio is fantastic i'm curious to know your thoughts on something
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brian and you guys as well so i i have a friend he met a girl on a dating app and she looked
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incredible on the app like amazing she drove from fort lauderdale to miami to come down and meet with
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him they met up in the apartment briefly for drinks before going out on the town and this girl looked
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nothing like any of her pictures now i don't necessarily agree with how he handled it what he
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did was he said okay let's go downstairs we're gonna go to the club they walked downstairs and he
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said oh i left my phone in my apartment he went back upstairs and texted her and he said i'm sorry
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like i'm just not about it like and honestly like you're i think that's okay be a little bit more
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authentic with what you're marketing yeah i i think my man i mean i think probably curved shout out tim
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i think i handled that okay i mean it perhaps he could have done it in a more respectful way
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i know yeah you can do it in a respectful way but if you catfish the absolute hell out of somebody like
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and then you and then you curve that person it's like whatever you know like i i don't know yeah
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i'd be so mad if i got super catfished by a chick like that right yeah i mean i think i
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worst i think i have a pretty good eyeball like a vision for when the girls are really filtered and
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yeah but i think some men are not quite as attuned to like oh it's a filter no no because i couldn't
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tell when i first started i was like oh my god why does everyone look absolutely perfect yeah it took
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me a long time to figure it out so what do they think is gonna happen there when they like see the
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person in real life well that's what it's just weird that's what is happening with a lot of like
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instagram models is they put so many filters and so many different things on and then when people meet
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them in real life they look nothing and i think that's really sad they have like those those um
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those pages that out them and you see the ones yeah i just i just think it's gonna be really sad
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when you're an old lady looking back at those pictures with your friends your family there's
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selfies of you like you're gonna look back on them with regret for not embracing the beauty that you
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have the beauty that you were yeah i know i look that's why i find me when i was 19 and i'm like
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oh i was awful you look back at 19 now and you're like wow yeah dang i wish i could look like 19 again
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like i feel like you're depriving your future self of those feelings and yeah so many so many
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other things absolutely absolutely i used to facetune a lot of pictures and stuff like that
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and i literally deleted like my instagram has very minimal pictures on it i deleted every single
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facetune picture every picture that was edited um and well i get why women do it because like if it's
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kind of like let's say you're a professional athlete and everybody else is on steroids and you're not
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your career prospects are going to be minimized because you're not you know you're not doing the
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status quo everyone else is doing you're not able to be competitive with the other athletes so i i mean
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it makes sense to me why women do it because every other almost every other woman is blasted in full face
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of makeup filters and like and it's hard it's makeup's not enough anymore yeah exactly yeah you have like
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straight up ai like changing the structure of women's faces there was an a there's an ai on
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instagram she has her entire like she's not even a real person and she has there's a lot of pages
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like that she has like 500 000 followers and she's not even real you know what's crazy is like dudes
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will figure out how to make women in ai and then they'll they'll like interact with the women other
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dudes yeah they'll interact with the dudes no they'll interact with like like so like say like i was one of
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these guys i like go on an ai create a profile for some like fake ai girl then a bunch of dudes
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start following the girl and then they'll message the guy the guys that are following them and be
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like oh hey baby all the ultimate catfish then then they will make nude photos of the woman through ai
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open and only fans and then guys will buy that smart it's it's like it's it's evil but it's like an
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insane no no they don't what no and the guys know that they're buying an ai only fans i mean it's like
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usually like dumb dudes that are following these like women like if you if you really look at it you
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can tell it's fake because she's imposed in italy and she's imposed in well you can tell because like
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you'll look at the details on the body and you can tell and nobody's that you look at the hands yeah
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yeah but but the the ai girls are like unbelievably beautiful in terms of like the symmetry of their
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faces and stuff so guys will follow and be like oh my gosh and then they buy their only fans oh my
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gosh it's a freaking crazy time ai chicks are coming for your jobs okay um yeah but i mean just
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really quick when it comes to the plastic surgery stuff like i my personal position is let's say take
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a girl who had an a cup or she was totally flat i would prefer that than her with big giant fake
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titties you know or like her butt's not that big i prefer like what i prefer flat big giant fake titties
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then like uh bbl or i'd even prefer a girl with a little if she got a little belly fat like when you
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okay if you bend over like this you're gonna get a little scrunch you know what i'm saying like yeah
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unless your body fat percentage is really low like if you're bending over or something you're gonna
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get a little belly so i'd prefer a little belly than a girl who has the lipo belly
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you know what i'm saying love that about you but but the numbers don't lie over the lip filler i've
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been i was before i became an only fans creator i've only been doing only fans for less than a year but
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i was a stripper for the last 11 years and um when i was smaller chested yes i made good money but after i got
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the little work done or whatever my money went up every time i did something different every single
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time okay i mean yeah so i mean i get it i guess but date you're you and far in between give me some
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a cups over some giant fake titties that's all i'm saying also brian's talking about the context of
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dating versus being in a strip club where they're like explicitly going there to get like turned on
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right versus a guy who's looking to date that ideal kind of girl that makes sense i mean even okay but
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even like if i'm thinking even sexually well i'm thinking yeah even sexually you're turned off by it
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like even for like a one night stand or something yes yes i would i would prefer like a more natural
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even if things she got okay itty bitty committee like you're all about it i am the
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he's big labia matter yeah co-chair of the itty bitty titty committee whatever the
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fuck it's called amazing you'd have three people what's that you have three three subscribers well
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you know what's crazy if you look at if you look at um greek sculptures or ancient sculptures right of
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women they don't have these giant fucking knockers they've got like what they got a cups or b cups
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they're not like you know you know what i mean um so uh you know that's you know you know my problem
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is with women who get a lot of work done i feel like i'm getting catfished as to what
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my children's genetics sorry that's a very good point you asked them for pictures of themselves
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before they got the work done i mean i can i can spot it for from like a mile away but like if
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if i was with a chick and i found out she had a ton of work done i'd be like yo what are you looking
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what's a ton yeah i mean women will like totally change what their faces look like you know and
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then you have no idea what the original even looked like like some women will get like crazy nose jobs
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where their nose will look totally different from what it looked like before and it's like i want to
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know what that looked like before you know what are my kids gonna look like you know what i'm saying
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do you work on the chin on the cheeks on the eyes the forehead
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i don't know i don't know all i'm saying all i'm saying
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i don't know it's a forehead lift i guess and i guess you can do it and the other thing with
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plastic surgery look all of you have been very lovely tonight i know some of you have plastic
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surgery i don't you want i don't disdain any of you for that you have plastic surgery or whatever
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um i do think that women who have plastic surgery are probably more high maintenance
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okay so breast implants most uh saline and silicone breast implants are approved or for the fda it's
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10 to 20 years now sometimes they can last longer than that however in your lifetime if you have
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breast implants you're probably looking at one two maybe three times having to uh have them replaced so
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when i'm looking at a girl who's has a lot of work done or wants to get a lot of work done i'm thinking
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okay i would much rather divert my financial resources to uh to my children in some sort of
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utilitarian way instead of placating your insecurity okay that's totally fair every insecurity came from
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her children from having children well look i mean oh like a mommy makeover that's something that i can
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bring to a relationship i already have all my work done if my if my wife were my
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motorcycle going by um me personally right if my wife had stretch marks on her belly after having
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given birth um i'm still gonna love her uh but it's not about you loving her it's about her loving
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herself i mean i would she came to you and was i feel like people should be able to love themselves
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without getting cosmetic work done i agree with you i agree with you should but i would say inner healing
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before exterior surgical cutting i would try to guide her away from plastic surgery not just for
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financial reasons but also anytime you undergo anesthesia right there are certain risks involved
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i'm sure i mean when you go and get your wisdom teeth pulled out they're gonna say hey you're getting
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anesthesia here are the potential risks um i think it's probably very low but there's always a risk of
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death whenever you go under anesthesia there's other sort of complications that can arise
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there's certain health consequences so it's not just financial it's also just the potential
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health risks for my partner um so so do you want to know like how i justify it to myself i don't i mean
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it's it does it not matter i don't really care to be honest okay good for you i was just wondering
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well okay really quick how do you how do you justify it it helps with your career it helps with your
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business yeah that's pretty much what i was gonna say like if i wasn't in this industry i don't think
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i would prioritize it as much but since i am and it makes me more money i i can use that as like
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a justification good posture huh what what i was telling her i've heard uh i've heard women can have
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autoimmune reactions from i did you did yes from my first set so i had first yeah this is my third third
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and this is the only thing i've ever had done high maintenance uh vindicated i'm just kidding but
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that's the only thing like i very low maintenance otherwise what very low what what happened so my
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first set was 21 years old i became allergic to over 50 of foods like vegetables spinach um bananas
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blueberries um i like was allergic to a bunch of medications so i had them taken out um in 21
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um then i had a complete so and then all my 2021 yeah 2021 i had them taken out so they were 21 years
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old at that point oh wow um i had breastfed four children with them and they were beautiful they were
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still in great shape i just um i was really sick i had them taken out i had another set put in i'm able
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to eat today everything i have i can eat peanut butter and jelly i can have bananas i have no reactions to
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anything um during that time i had my first set i had a stomach ulcer perforate i had stomach ulcers
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i had an autoimmune condition with it i had a stomach ulcer perforate and um they removed over
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half of my stomach from it whoa holy smokes this is pretty much i mean almost making my argument though
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but like what's amazing to me though despite the serious complications that you had with your first
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implants i mean it would occur to me that the pragmatic thing to do is okay maybe
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i'm not going to get any more fake titties you know what i mean no correct and they i
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had that conversation with myself and then the fake titties were more worth it than your health then
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well my second set actually i got better so it was well you didn't get better because of the second
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set you got better no i get that i get that i got better because i got the first that taken out
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i get that i get the magical healing fake titties yeah i got fake titties so i'm all better now no
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that's not what i meant but then um i i had a complication with the second set where they
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shifted so are you guys there was a complication with the second what do you what do you mean they
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the third shift it what does that mean so this this implant capsular oh my god oh yes and then
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shift it into my armpit so when i would like flex or do anything it would completely like if you did
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a double bicep i would do anything like that it would shift did that just like drive you nuts it did
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yeah it sounds painful it's very painful if that happens so i went to the best i did tons and tons of
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research i went to the very very best and that's where i'm at now i don't intend to keep them
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after i'm done working so that's where i'm at did you wait did you change did you did you change the
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material yes when you got the second what was the material in the first one so i went with i had
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silicone the first time and then what'd you go with and then i went with um saline and no other way
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around i'm sorry i started with saline and i went to the gel um gummy bears because they're they're
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they're they're like a gummy bear they feel more that's what i got and they have um they have a
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less um risk of rupturing and the gummy bear yeah they're incredible i was gonna ask dude did you
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say yours came from your belly fat how does that work so i actually have to gummy bear implants and
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fat cancer to the breasts okay oh yeah just suck it out and just right because i've heard about
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it with the bbls i didn't know if they did that for titties too you can yeah yeah okay
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wild word word word uh what's that isn't there some quote or saying like what people will do for
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beauty or i don't know what it is pain is beauty pain is beauty i guess all along though like my
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grandmother had ribs taken out for to get it like a 25-inch day yeah yeah that's a yikes
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for the women here who haven't had fake don't have fake titties have any of you considered getting
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some fake titties no wendy it's never crossed your mind okay all right good
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cross the mind i think small titties are in son all right andrew andrew you meet a fantastic christian
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woman she's super based loves the lord she has fake boobs yes or no no problemo no problem
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so if i had to do it again i would have not done it at all okay all right there you have it folks all
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right we have let me just see if we have any chance here we have nope we have nope okay
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i had the couple oh atlas so your boyfriend you move really fast you have his gamer tag tattooed
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on you is that right yes i did do that can we no way you can't see it wait is this where is it
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where is it it's below my butt cheek this is the guy you were with for just a month like on the leg
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the on the quad wait wait wait you got a tattoo for with the guy that you were with for a month
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yes i did do that atlas why did you do that i was in your corner were you in love
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no okay listen how did he pitch it to you what's the story what's the story um no he didn't i was
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being reckless okay i was being reckless and i was just doing something that i thought was really
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spontaneous and fun and like almost like jumping out of an airplane and i knew honestly it didn't
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work out i could easily get it removed it's just a little gamer tag it's not like a big
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fucking portrait you know so who pitched it is it he did how did how did he pitch it how did he pitch
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it um he just he just kept screwing around being like let's go get our names tattooed on each other
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let's go get our names tattooed on each other such a red flag in the first i was like bet i'll do it
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wait did he got he got your name tattooed no he didn't end up doing it oh he did not but you put his
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gamer tag yeah yes yes i did and he's a really bad like twitch streamer so does he have a big
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following no he has like 11 people following so and he texts me all the time and i am not answering
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your text dude like stop so you haven't yet gotten rid of it not yet why not what is the gamer tag is it
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like xx blood raven 420 blazes it's like f and f underscore oh wait loser
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actually no but i didn't want to give him a shout out after i thought about it
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i'm just kidding that's a little bit harsh but yeah so is it though is it though i mean a month
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and he crashed on your couch just playing video games all day and he like kind of low-key talk
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tell a shit about me on twitter for no reason like about how i didn't have a microwave like
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like that's a bad thing staying at your house for free he has no room to talk honestly though
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honestly if i was in this position and i was like a just a total bomb playing video games and some
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chick didn't have a microwave i'd be like this chick bro you don't have a
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microwave yeah we ate totally wrong with you we are the way he ate and the way i ate was completely
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how dare you and that doesn't microwave atlas i have a toaster oven that's okay that's way better
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i was trying to i actually yeah it makes it toastier you you actually owe him an apology
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that was the that was the start of all your relationship conflict was you didn't have a
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microwave the issue was he said that he doesn't like fast food and then moved in and ate fast food
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every day you need to do some soul searching you need to look within and see about what you did
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wrong in that relationship i didn't have a tv either you and so i got a tv because he's like
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really insistent on the tv okay i'm kidding i'm just kidding guys okay um so that's ground
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you got this tattoo of him um chase you're andrew you meet a girl she has a tattoo with her ex's
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name on her if i was going to be dating it would be removed but i'm not dating is it the deal
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breaker for you bro i wouldn't i wouldn't even consider moving the relationship forward it's
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it's done tattoo of her ex ex name and it's like right below her butt too what do you mean you don't
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know what her butt looks like what if it was gone yeah he wouldn't even know he can't see her butt so he
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wouldn't know and if it came time for me to be honest with the guy it would have already been gone
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like if i was going to be start seeing people i would get that taken off i'm just not doing that
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right now so it hasn't been a priority but it's not a problem it's gone it's not a problem roger
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that okay let's propose a hypothetical okay andrew you marry a girl oh man you go to do the deed on your
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wedding night no right underneath her butt cheek you see scott's property tattooed underneath okay
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that's a little extreme what do you what do you what do you do i don't know what i do but how much
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would that definitely something to think about uh for me to tattoo that yeah yeah i mean if we're
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already married throw a number you know it's a lot to just break it off just over a tattoo but well i
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mean you wouldn't be able to break it off it's it's you're you're married you know i don't think
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it's grounds for divorce yeah okay how do you approach that conversation it's like yo you get
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it removed that's a that's a solution be like yes it's still not ideal i think definitely andrew
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i need you every woman you're considering courting you gotta ask what the tattoo situation is
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add it to your app you gotta ask your application yeah but so chase do you think that's that's kind
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of like an alpha widow situation like okay she's got the ex's name tattooed on her it's like bro a
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thousand a thousand percent he's gonna come back in the picture bro like how would you feel if you
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met some great guy or great guy great girl and uh you like go to hook up with her and then you see
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tate tattooed right there underneath her tits yes how would you feel fucking terrible yeah bro i feel
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like he was fucking her at the same time yeah i mean dude like he was there in the room yeah i just like
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like i could i i would be able to have zero tolerance for it man like as a man i'm so
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territorial over my woman there's no way she could be branded by another man question on this related
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to what chase just said and this is for those of you who are a little more you might want to just
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plug your ears okay if someone was having sex with you doggy style what is the tattoo visible
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absolutely oh that stings oh it stings oh it hurts it hurts that's the best way to see it if you
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are going to see it it's a sign it doesn't matter it's a gamer tag it's a dude you can say whatever
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a dude branded her no she's brand a dude branded branded but you don't know he doesn't know what
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it doesn't matter well immediately you would ask it's not gonna be like oh what's this gamer tag
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you're not gonna be like you're not gonna be like oh that's chill for there to be there there's
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no story in the background no other tattoos i could see your argument but she has other tattoos so
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is he gonna sit there and dissect her entire body okay if if hypothetically i i was hooking up with
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the girl and i saw a gamer tag underneath her butt cheek immediately i'd be like yeah what is that
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immediately and do you feel a kind of way about it like would you take it off oh my gosh it's coming
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off yeah so then yeah we already know the answer then it's yeah and if i was at a place in my life
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right now where i was down to like fuck someone it would be gone i would have it gone already how
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how long ago was this relationship a year ago have you been with a guy biblically speaking
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not even a kiss nothing no sex stop the cap i'm not capping come on atlas i swear to god i swear on my
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family on everything i have not been with i haven't even don't use the lord's name sorry please
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i haven't even kissed someone this girl who wanted to do a tick tock that it was like two best friends
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in a room who might kiss and she pecked me and i was like girl i haven't kissed anyone in like a year
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and she's like oh i feel special yeah i don't leave my house okay if i'm having sex with a girl and i
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i dude i wouldn't even be able to get it up like if seeing another guy's brand there no way
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i mean that all of that's fair you guys can ask for everyone i don't get i don't get offended easily
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you guys are totally fine like you can i still don't think you don't know but if if you were
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like no i'm not going to get it removed like there's that would be hilarious i can't remember
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again then what if i if i if i know if i if if if if if i married a woman and i saw that she was
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branded by another guy near her general region there's no way i'm able to get it up so until
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it was removed even after that i'd be like dude i'll re-trigger it i know i know that about myself
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i know that about myself okay low t is what it is no i'm just i'm territorial like no it's high
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t i'm territory yeah it is i'm territorial yeah but she's a new creature in christ turned on by that
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what if she's a new creature in christ if she's a new creature in christ why does she have her ex's
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name tattooed on her butt that was pre-christ what was pre-christ that was pre-christ still if it's
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there even even if it was removed but i found out about it it would still mess with me mentally
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i'd be like why would you do that so then you might as well end it yeah i mean yeah i think you should
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pray but like i'm saying i'm saying if that happened if i married a woman and that happened
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like i just i have no idea how i would be able to process it i low-key wish i could remove all my
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tattoos i would have none let's uh let's move away from the tattoo thing all right we have
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one sec guys swordless donated two hundred dollars yeah thank you so much man good to see the chat
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keep it up man next target one thousand let's go just woke up and joined and what a topic to hear
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waking up anyway congratulations again for the guests hello and you all should dance if i ever make
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it to a thousand episodes of this show that is the last fucking there's no i don't know if i can do a
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a thousand fucking episodes of the show but hey thank you very much man much appreciated very good
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to see you in the chat that's the homie swordless thank you so much man appreciate your patronage
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we have this one from chase simmons chase i'm currently struggling with my beliefs in the lord
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i get atheists telling me the lord is a sadist for allowing suffering and i come from a small town in
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wisconsin where most girls aren't really christians so i struggle on the dating front if you can just
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address it but if you can try to keep it brief uh i mean brother this is a problem many many men
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and women are struggling with finding uh other equally yoked members of the opposite sex
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go uh what what is the app that just came out i think it's called dating right no the court there's
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the courtship app i think i think that's upward yeah there's upward there's the courtship out there's
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uh uh sure i don't i don't know dude i'm not good with all the dating apps um i'm not the guy to ask
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i'm sorry can i ask about the apps like what is up with the dating apps though because i did low-key
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try to get on to some just to see like what was up with it and i don't know if it's just the area
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i live in but it looked like a lot of the dudes were like just like no offense like druggies or
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something where do you live should i say that actually what's the state washington i don't know
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if i should say because i think a lot of the guys look like druggies i mean truth on the app yeah
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i was like the whole state the whole what what apps are you on i tried so i um i think i tried
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tinder and uh one other one that i forgot the name of there's bumble hinge yeah maybe like hinge or
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something coffee meets bagel i don't know uh well honestly you're gonna you're gonna get a lot of
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the lowest quality dudes on do you have to really like commit to it and go through before you find
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something good so like i was like think think about the psychology of using a dating app like something
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like tinder most of the dudes that are going on tinder just want to find a girl to hook up with
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so if you're looking for like a serious guy if you're looking through that dating pool it's just
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going to be dudes that want to hook up okay but i'm not even talking about just a sec hold on just a
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sec every guy she hooks up goes home types in the gamertagons just
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so okay here i'll trigger it one more time uh oh wait it's actually gonna take a while to return
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but that was good um so the guys you hook up with they see the gamertag they add the gamertag they go
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play call of a duty together and now there's a whole friend group of all the men you've hooked up with
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that's just like my squad or why that's no it's just like a bunch of dudes who are now friends
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types in the gamertagons just starts playing caught together oh that would be cute for him i guess
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then you go in there and i found you for life friends i don't know
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then to the offenders of giga chat uh yeah i'm curious uh the dudes have been asking you ladies
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questions all night long do you guys have any questions for the dudes um why why would a guy
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not be interested in dating somebody who does the kind of work that we do if they okay let's say you
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meet a girl and you do you genuinely like her her personality and then you find out that she does that and
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then maybe she doesn't meet the stereotype that you've given that a girl to be in that kind of
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career like would you still just call it off because of what she does or would you be interested into
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like i have a second thought yeah yeah it's gonna it's gonna vary from guy to guy like i know that
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there's definitely guys that wouldn't care that much uh there's some guys that actually push their
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women into doing like online sex work and whatnot i can only speak for me personally like if i was
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talking to a girl and i found out she did that it would be very i wouldn't be able to stomach it
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because like i was telling her like i'm a very territorial man when it comes to my like i don't
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want to share my woman with anyone you know like i don't i don't want guys knowing what her body looks
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like in terms of like what she looks like underneath her clothes what she looks like naked anything like
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that like i want that to be reserved for me and me alone and i want that to be a special thing
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that we share with one another that's one aspect of the psychology the other aspect of it is
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i don't want my kid's mother all i don't want her body all over the internet you know i don't want
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my kids to have to potentially deal with that someday because i read stories about kids who
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do get bullied at school for it and they end up killing themselves and it's it's just there's way
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too many liabilities there for me personally to deal with does that make sense yeah yeah yeah i mean
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i also have a question for you guys hold on yeah it's just oh sorry it's just not right um she's gonna be
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pulling me in the other direction i'm trying to serve christ i'm trying to serve god and she's
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running the complete opposite direction he brought up the equally yoked phrase earlier he's talking
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about that yoked he's talking about a yoke you know how uh oxens are yoked together with this bar that
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goes across her neck well unequally yoked would be two separate animals barred together it just doesn't
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make sense to plow grain with two separate animals that's what it's like uh being a believer with an
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unbeliever it's two separate species essentially just does not make sense for me as a believer to
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be with an unbeliever yeah to bring it back to how i answered your question too does does my
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explanation about the territorialness and not wanting to share a woman makes sense absolutely
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do you feel like that's fair and justified i think that's fair i think
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sounds like somebody's hit a car yeah people drive by and try to make noises because they know the show
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is going on no way yeah happens all the time people will wait for the show to start and then they'll
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like rev their engine down below that's hella funny but so that makes sense to you no it totally makes
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sense and that's why i kind of just wrote off that i would even find somebody that and be in anything
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serious until i was done doing it and not because i think that that's necessarily right i've just
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accepted just accepted that i think you i mean you might find a guy who has tolerance for it i don't know
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i have a lot of um fans or i guess that say that they would like to date me knowing what i do but then
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once they're with me would want me to quit and i think that that's kind of hypocritical it's like
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wait you found me like like this and now you want it to like i just i think it's i think you
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might feel you might feel it's hypocritical but i would argue it's actually a good impulse it's a
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protective impulse that a man has towards his woman right wait what did i miss what what is
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hypocritical she was saying that guys will tell her her fans will tell her from from online that they
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they want to date her but once they have her they would want her to stop her online sex work
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and then they have i i have a lot of like breeding like they want to like put a baby like i get a lot
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of that where they want they're like oh i want you to have my baby i want you to have my baby like
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so they want yeah they want to like take it off the market does that make sense okay
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it's just it's just weird to me that you found me in this website and now you're trying to take it
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out of the game well let me ask you this what man would want his woman still on the market
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well if she's no that's fair a pimp what a pimp yeah no that's true but i don't technically like i
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don't see because i'm not dating those people does that make sense like i'm not dating the people that
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are coming into my chat rooms and they're not dating those people those are not the clientele for
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a lack of another term like that's not those are not my possible suitors well i just think it's
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interesting that they well perhaps one way to address the whole hip hypocrisy thing is prior to
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dating he had no problem with you engaging in what he considered single behavior but once they started
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dating he wanted her or you to act in a way that he thought was consistent with being in a relationship
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so for example i mean we a guy might if you're single we might not necessarily object to you going
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to bars clubs partying posting provocative photos but if we're in a relationship with you uh if a guy
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might want to rein in some of those behaviors that are kind of you're still advertising understood yeah
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that makes sense that makes sense no like totally i get it women go to bars and nightclubs but if you're
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gonna if you want commitment from me you can't go to the bar and club also building off what he said
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again uh that carnal like need and desire for sex that guys have programmed into them like of course
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off the bat that's going to make them really attracted to women in that line of work they're
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like great sex like i can right get sex all the time but i think what he's saying like it's a good
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thing when he starts to feel that way because he's starting to see you as something more than just
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that when he cares about you that's when he's going to want to start putting those restrictions
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into place so it's honestly a good thing i would also it's funny too how this conversation has gone
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i would also add that protectiveness if you were to comply with that and be like yeah i'll take like
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that's what a guy who's going to want to commit to you yeah he's going to want from you okay and i
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think if he's a good guy and he's asking for that and in your your career is that so you you live off of
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it that if he's a good guy and that's what you guys want to do in the next part of your relationship
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he will help guide you and figure out how you can do that transition so you don't have to lose
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everything and suffer 100 that's that's good leadership right here's one of the thing things
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though that i think a lot of women who are involved in sex work or stripping or doing only fans uh or
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just traditional adult content is they make a lot of money so it i think there's that one chick that
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made like 70 grand a month oh we've had a lot of girls on the show there oh there's more make six
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figures a month and so i think the attitude at least from what i've interviewed from tons of
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these girls that have come on the show is well i would stop if they were to continue if they were
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really rich guys who could provide me the same quality of life exactly maintain the lifestyle but
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that's such a small portion of men that can make that that amount of money and so it's like
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that's intimidating to guys in and of itself making that kind of money i don't know i don't find it
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intimidating if not to all guys but to some guys it's intimidating for like for the female or just
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turn off right yeah i i don't find it attractive if a woman makes a ton of money yeah but like think
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about what it could do for your dynasty chase like and assuming it's not think about it think about what
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it could do to your relationship dynamic if your woman's making 20 times more money than you are
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like bro she's wearing she's wearing the pants that's my money now i guess that that screws up
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the power dynamic a lot like i'm not interested in that to that point the other day when people
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asked me what i was looking for in a man and i said like i want someone to earn you know more money
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than me and i named that figure like a lot of people were like oh like hypergamous she's only after
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the money but it's literally based off what you said i know that if i'm not with a man who's
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going to make more money than me it's going to completely switch the dynamics in the relationship
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oh yeah what if she's just super submissive chase but she just but she's a bola but she's got some
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investments or some you know what i mean i mean i mean dude like the there's definitely a way to
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make it work she's got some fucking doge coin like if she comes to you and she's like hey i'm like
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really rich but i want to put you in charge of the money it's like okay well that's that's a different
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story it's a lot of trust yeah let's go not a pre-note um last thing from you atlas in your
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pre-show notes to us you said i guess one of my hot takes is asking people's body count is immature
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yeah okay and so i don't even have a high body count but like i have friends sorry sorry sorry
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actually maybe i do to like um certain people or something like that okay um but i just i don't
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know i because i watch a lot of dating podcast podcasts of it seems to be like quite a bit older
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people than like you um and they're the what and their their take on stuff like that i kind of
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think is true like it seems like people who are older and more mature aren't really having those
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conversations and maybe it's because the the woman or the man is not giving the vibe that they're
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sketchy promiscuous you know so we don't need to talk about your exes like it's not the boomers
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grew up during the sexual revolution and they're all degenerate
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fucking so the guys i'm kidding i'm kidding the two guys that i watch i think they're like in their
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mid-40s this was before the hiv okay wait was it hold on they're like in their mid-40s i think i think
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i listed their names on my application of the people i listen to um he's like i don't want to
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give them free publicity but um yeah i just feel like depending on how that conversation comes up
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okay i think there is a certain way it could come up like kind of when i was like questioning him on
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it and the way he explained it i can get it but i think the way it typically tends to come up is just
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kind of like i don't know i don't know how to explain it it's why why do you feel like it's not
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like an appropriate question to ask i know it's it depends on it depends on context do you think it's
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do you think it's fair for a man to care about that i do i think i but i also not to an a certain extent
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so right so it's like what extent do you think it's fair if you're worried that they are so
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promiscuous that they can maybe have an addiction they could cheat on you or maybe they have an std
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that sounds like some great reasons so i think those are great reasons
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to what degree do you think it's not fair for a man to care um to what degree do i think it's not
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fair for men to care if you don't give off any of those vibes like you guys have a really good
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relationship you're not scandalous he knows you're not promiscuous maybe he knows that you've been
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checked and you are clean it's like why does it matter i'll tell you why it matters if a woman has
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a body count of 50 for example and i find that out i'm gonna be asking is that where the high
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starts like where where's the lower than that yeah okay like for me once once it starts getting
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into double digits for me like i'm gonna start asking questions like okay like you know tell me
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about your past right if if she starts getting to like 15 20 30 like past 20 it's like okay what like
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i want to take a close look at it what's actually happened here especially the younger a woman is
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because if a person has a series of failed relationships over and over again especially
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a woman there could be a lot of things that happen there it's like okay what were you doing were you
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doing one night stands for like a few years constantly getting railed by guys at bars
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can i ask what's up so did it come up in conversation with you and your girlfriend
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and if so like how did it come up then it did and i asked her but out of respect for her i don't
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want to say anything more about that conversation but yeah it did like i asked her just very frankly
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and it was like initially she was like whoa like why why are you asking me that and then and then
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what did you say once once like we started to know that like we were interested in one another
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and it was like mutual like there was a mutual understanding then i asked and what was your
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reasoning though because she was like she was thrown off right she was like whoa where's this
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coming from and you were like well this is why i want to know like what was your like this is why
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i want to know it's a great question basically exactly what i'm describing to you so and i'll i'll
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add some context there's a lot of data on the number of premarital sexual partners somebody's had
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and what their likelihood of divorce is in marriage and that was your idea like going
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and you're like i want to know yeah that's one of the main reasons once i saw the data on like body
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count and the number of partners either a man or a woman has had i was like yo this is an important
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thing because my parents got divorced and i want to do everything i possibly can to minimize the chances
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of ever getting divorced to my partner like it's it's the worst thing that you can ever go through
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in marriage obviously um and so it's like there's a there's a lot of different factors that go into
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divorce maybe one person is really bad at listening to the other uh maybe one person is like lazy
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whatever but the number of premarital sexual partners somebody's had there's it's like a direct
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correlation the higher that number the higher the chances of divorce so to give you an example a virgin
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on average has less than five percent chance of getting divorced somebody with more than 10 sexual
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partners on average 50 chance of getting divorced that's a big deal that's a and this is for both
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sexes that's a big deal so if you're somebody who really cares about marriage and you don't want to
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get divorced especially as a man because men get absolutely screwed in divorce you want to ask those
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questions and so i was very upfront with her i was like this is this is what i'm i'm optimizing for
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marriage this is why i care and it's like there's there's different reasons other than that why it matters
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it's like if somebody was a serial monogamist for example that's different than if they were
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cheating on their ex-partner which is different than if they were getting railed at bars all the
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time like there's you want to know about the person's psychology and when you have that that
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conversation you can you can gain insight into like who are you how do you approach relationships and
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if you care about marriage you can gain valuable information there any it looked like you had some
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something to say because i must be an anomaly because i must be an anomaly because my husband
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never asked that question well most most guys in your generation don't like it's it's kind of like
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an our generation thing so here's the thing though rahab was related to jesus christ so was tamar
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oh they had some bad mojo before they were with their husbands so oh okay if you're going to truly
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be christ-like and i'm not trying to put you on the spot i'm not trying to disrespect you
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that's not going to matter because that person if you love them that what they've done before does not
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matter so it doesn't matter and i'm married 14 years now i just want to know it's just not fair
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it's not fair that's all i'm saying okay i hear what you're saying it's not fair hold on hold on
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it's just not fair the life's unfair the world's unfair women curve short dudes because they're
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short brian you get a pass because you're not these two dudes wait what do you mean no so here's
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the thing because these guys are christ followers you're saying they're supposed to have grace for
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for women in all areas because we're christian doesn't mean we have to marry prostitutes they
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can have no i'm not i'm not telling you guys to do that but everyone can have you know what
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rahab was redeemed by by by a spy i just i just preached on this at a church on sunday she was
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redeemed by a spy that cared enough for her when the when the walls came down to jericho to take her
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out of that lifestyle but isn't that the exception to the rule and when you look at your lifestyle even
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you say maybe i'm the exception yes girl you are the exception look at the upbringing that you had
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him i want him to expand his mind and not be so judgmental all right so somebody could possibly
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love hold on hold on fully expanded i will not marry a prostitute so i'm not saying that they're
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still doing it annie may i please respond to everything that you just said okay
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there is room for christ-like love and there there is also room for wisdom and discernment in terms of
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who you are entering a marital contract into okay you can forgive someone for their past someone
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can have a past that doesn't mean that you're obligated to marry them okay so if i'm having
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a conversation with a woman and she has a past but she regrets her past and she's repentant of it let's
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say you know maybe she had like a bad pattern in her past maybe she you know was looking for love in
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all the wrong places something like that and she developed a habit of sleeping with men too easily or
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or or something like that that is something that a person can learn from and there's also absolutely
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room for christ-like forgiveness for something like that there's no question you know everybody can be
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made new again in christ okay why i would care though still as a man is because i want to know what
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happened there because if i'm going to get married to you unless we're signing a prenup or something like
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that like i need to know who are you how do you approach relationships i can have forgiveness for
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your past but how do you approach relationships because here in america we've got no fault divorce
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is there something there that might lead you one day to just decide you want to divorce me and
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absolutely screw me and take my kids and half my income and everything like that is there something
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that could be lurking there because if there is i want to know about it you know i'm not obligated to
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marry a woman with a past if i'm entering into a contract with somebody i want to know who i'm
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entering into that contract with but you can still you can still love them and forgive them what'd you
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say you don't have to be a prostitute to do that divorce someone and take all their money okay there's
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plenty exactly yes yes there are there are which is and and most most people nowadays are not prudent
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about who they marry most marriages end in divorce a lot of people just get up in their feelings and
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they fall in love with somebody and they don't have the really hard conversations they
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don't ask the really tough questions both men and women a lot of women don't vet men properly
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for their red flags a lot of women end up with men who are abusive yeah a man could have had an
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abusive past a man could have been a murderer it's a woman's job to see if that was the case
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because if he was a murderer she can forgive him and have christ-like love for him but is she
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still obligated to marry him would it be a good idea no i'm not saying that i'm just saying you just
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have to open your mind because what if there is a person that you meet and i'm gonna pray that for
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you by the way that there i'm gonna pray for him i'm gonna pray for him to run into a woman that's
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so he can't handle the traction he has and it's so strong that it's actually spiritual too and he's
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like compelled to marry her we're not just so not against the christian marrying a prostitute i'm just
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i'm just saying that hosea hosea gets a direct that's the redemption that's what we're that's what
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christ did for the church go ahead go ahead yeah i i you know it's beautiful and i cry for this
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because there is so many women out there and i'm gonna cry for them that they just want someone to
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love them and give them a chance you're not owed a relationship you're not i know but still but
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that's why christ came so we could all be redeemed i guess that's why maybe it could kind of suck
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for the girls that's all i fight that's that's fair that's fair and i respect that i respect that
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no their hearts you're you're give their they'll give their their shirt off their back
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annie i want to they'll give their shirt off their back and they give their heart more more than once
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trust me and that's why they might be great people but but yes can i say something really
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let me get in i'm emotional because you know what i'm i'm just i'm sad i want to say
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annie well okay so hold on hold on hold on hold on it makes me sad annie please listen am i wrong
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for crying please annie please listen please listen no you're not wrong for crying i annie
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i love the heart that you have for these women and and i love the fact that you are a voice for
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these women you listening yeah i love the fact that you're a voice for these women because i i can't
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imagine you know your guys's lives and everything that you've been through like i think it's very
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valuable that you're speaking up on their behalf okay now just just like you're a voice for those
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women what i'm trying to do is be a voice for men and we live in a world where a lot of bad
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women screw over a lot of good men and i understand that i i totally get the jezebels i get it i i
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respect that part i don't want you guys to get hurt too but we got to give each other a chance some
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at some point there's no question we we've got to give each other christ-like chances but it's also
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important to be just for both sexes to be discerning about who they're getting into relationships with
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because there's a lot of broken families out there and a lot of broken marriages and i want to try and
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prevent that annie can i ask you a question would you object to a woman not wanting to date a man
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who's shorter than her that's totally different subject no it's no it is not annie no it is
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everybody knows well just but can you answer the question can you answer the question though
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would you object would you object to a woman not wanting to date a man who's shorter than her
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he's saying preference i've dated men shorter than me would you okay let's let's say atlas is like i
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don't want to date men unless they're under uh over six feet tall would you say that's wrong or is
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she justified in that i mean this has nothing to do with this it has it has everything to do i mean
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is she wrong for wanting that for me it doesn't for for you it has muscles it's on okay so basically
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what what you're saying what you're saying is it's not okay for us to have preferences but it's okay for
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women to have preferences that's what you're telling me i want someone to buy the champagne this is all got to
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to do with redemption and sexuality and mistakes being made somebody you you were born short that's
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not your fault right but choosing to people people can make mistakes in their life but they can also
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choose to continually do wrong and that is their fault if somebody chooses to keep doing the wrong
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thing that is their fault if a woman if a woman decides i want to go have sex with 50 minute bars
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over the next 10 years obviously no woman's consciously thinking that but if she makes the
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choice continually to do that that's her choice she made that choice basically i'm not tricking
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anybody though i'm not tricking anyone into marriage i'm not tricking anyone into divorce i'm putting them
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i'm putting a price out and you know it's up front and guaranteed i give you what you pay for and
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if they want it they want it is that what you're saying they want it you got it there's no tricking
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there's no there's no but but this is this is she's honest this is i'm honest but it's not a
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contract for relationship okay this is the thing though is that when men have preferences standards and
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boundaries for example not wanting to date a woman who's has a promiscuous past not wanting to date a
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woman who was engaged in sex work in her past or currently it's i mean to me it's shocking that it's
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somehow that you can i just feel like you shouldn't have to explain it yeah yeah i understand
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nobody no no no let me finish let me finish people always have issues with male standards
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male preferences male boundaries but nobody bats an eye when a woman says i want xyz in a partner
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women are allowed to have preferences standards and boundaries men aren't if a woman says i want to date
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a guy who's tall cool if a guy says i don't want to date a woman who's overweight whoa that's
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you're fat shaming that's body shaming you're discriminating men's preferences are discriminatory
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women's preferences are preferences it happens to be the case that men care about a woman's past
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her promiscuity so it's literally just like literally like the equivalent this is like this
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conversation is like the equivalent of saying uh okay so a man's like yeah i don't want a woman who's
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a prostitute this is basically the same as if a woman was like i don't want a guy who has gotten
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drunk and beaten up his girlfriends in the past you could have grace for uh a man's past but if you as
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a woman don't want to be with a guy who's beaten women in the past that's your choice and you're
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justified in that i don't care if a man doesn't want a woman that was a prostitute i don't care you
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you don't that doesn't bother me and he does it doesn't bother me what it bothers me is that we
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pass judgment on women for sleeping with a lot of men but women don't get to pass that judgment on men
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women absolutely get to pass that judgment they absolutely get to pass that judgment
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both men and women can both men and women make judgment calls about potential partners
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you know what this makes the world go around i'm sure you like it makes the world go around okay but
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men pass judgment on the girls at the at the bunny ranch every single day on race color size so
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you'll date anybody you have no there's no discernment at all when i'm on this show to
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we don't know what we're doing here we're gonna um we're gonna wrap up here pretty soon guys i just
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don't understand why people can't just love i'm just i think you guys aren't saying that
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you guys why can't why can't women why it's just not your preference well you're saying you can love
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a prostitute without marrying her okay okay that's the point we don't want you to marry us we want
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you to take she did but you are also saying that a prostitute if the guy is okay with it she still
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deserves love and marriage if if somebody yeah if a guy wants if a guy's okay with it yeah it's just
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a guy's okay with it or not well i but i'm i think we're also saying here most men are also probably
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going to have an issue with it not even religious guys i think it's like a biological and psychological
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reaction like take religion completely out of the picture and most guys would still have the exact same
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feeling because it's biological and it's psychological but it's also as biological as men like women with
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skinny waist and wide hips so they can they can birth okay and i see a lot of women get married
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that don't have skinny weights and wide hips oh okay okay okay i'm also biological i see a lot of men
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men i can't say them so you made a good point there i was i was going somewhere i was going somewhere
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i mean if men want to have men want to be with a younger version of their wives and they can't do that
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okay okay well if you're going to talk biologically then so for example back in the day like like going
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back to the uh what's it the old part of your brain that we still yeah so like back like back in those
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days the only way to ensure paternity that the men was to ensure that this was going to be his child
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is if the woman remains single to him and committed to him sorry and still that's why to this day that
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part of the brain men don't want to see their woman with anybody else in any capacity even if it's
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just in the sense of being online and in fact marriage was there's more to it was accepted so
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that i'd love to hear it would stay take care of the child that they created otherwise there was
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an offensive side and women were just throwing their children out into the street because the
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men weren't taking care of a little too far from the mic um really quick on the body count thing
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uh i want to perhaps oh maybe we should wait until caitlin right your friend comes back um
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i'll come back to that really quick uh let's go to twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv
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i'll wait on that um question for maybe i should i'll wait for on that one too um chase you asked
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the girls if there was any question that they had for us um i we are trying to wrap up here pretty
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soon anybody you want to come in oh hey fdg thank you very much for the 50 gifted memberships thank you
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so much really appreciate it uh oh wait um do any of you have a question for us since we've asked a
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lot of questions i did have one for you guys um and it was about like the red pill rhetoric a little
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bit and i thought do you think maybe this rhetoric may encourage a society that lies so for example like
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ideologies and reality and them not aligning uh do you feel like people are not going to be as honest in
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the day where would people be motivated to lie yeah clarify that part for example like the body
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counting um or we kind of like say oh you know we can be born again virgins or something like that
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and we justify that so it's like uh aren't we just kind of creating false ideologies that we kind of
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embed with ourselves there's like three questions there so i'm all right we'll break it down however
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you want uh what you related it to red pill so i'm but i'm failing to she what she's basically
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saying is all the red pill rhetoric is raising awareness around the subject of body count which
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could then motivate women to lie about body count and encourage a culture of lying and i would say
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i would say uh yes it's possible that that could happen however i think both men and women becoming
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aware of this thing and having uh sometimes unhealthy also sometimes healthy dialogue about it is a good
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thing for society because it's making men aware of the dangers associated with it it's also making
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women aware of how much men care about it i think because many women are becoming aware of how much men
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care about it there's a natural incentive there for women to avoid racking up a high body count right
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because if they know subconsciously oh this is a standard that men have and i'm either gonna have to lie
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which would suck or i'm going to have to keep my body count down in order to find the kind of guide
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that i truly want that's a natural motivation for them to not engage in promiscuity i think that's a
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good thing could it also encourage a culture of lying absolutely are are a bunch of women going to lie
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about it because men now care about this absolutely and men as well i think okay so in that case what would
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you recommend to the viewers like when they're dating how can they mitigate these risks of lying
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yeah like how can you just maybe well you get a good christian girl yeah get it get it a really
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good christian girl who authentically believes in these values um i would also say too like there's
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not really anything that you're going to be able to do about whether or not somebody's going to lie
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you know now with that said over time as the relationship develops like the truth will
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probably come out you know you may notice discrepancies in what the person is saying
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and then that might that might breed a really unhealthy dynamic down the line because if if
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one person finds out that the other person was lying to them if it if there's like a long span of
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time over which this happens and then let's say two years into the relationship you find out that the
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person has been lying to you that's the kind of thing that could destroy a relationship you know
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what i mean okay um last two questions then we have to wrap up here so we've been talking about body
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count quite a bit so uh just show of hands who thinks body count matters
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who thinks body count doesn't matter or shouldn't matter i've seen some good points but just like
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right in between like there's like a limb there's like a point sorry there's like a point where like
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okay that that's like a lot that's like a lot but then like if it's like i don't really care if it's
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not like too too much gotcha so i'll just really quick um i guess yes or no should body count does body
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count matter how about let me rephrase it do you object to men caring about body count do you think it's
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kind of immature or maybe they get over it i mean every time some guy has told me i've always been
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like i don't know like that's like because i've always like when we say like oh what do you have
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questions for me you know like just try and get to know someone and that's like the first question
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because i've had some guys like that's like the first question and i just be like rubs you the wrong
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way yeah it's just like it's just like um oh i don't know sure do you object to men that uh caring
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about body count if you're starting like a if you're starting like a relationship and whatever
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they can have their own personal preferences i mean i don't really care do you think it's justified for
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men to care if they want yeah i guess i think it depends i guess now so if he was going to sit down
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and have a conversation with me like you were saying and he's trying to really get to know me
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for certain reasons and it's not just to make a quick hasty judgment then um i'd be way more open
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to it otherwise i think i would just kind of be like okay you'd be turned off if he asked right
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off the bat yeah because it's like why does it matter okay i think it depends on the the length
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of the relationship and where you're standing if you're depend if it's like a decision maker on
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whether you're going to stay committed to this person or move forward into the next level i think
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it i think it at that point it warrants a conversation for both sexes annie what about you yeah i i think
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that it i mean i appreciate the fact that you guys are trying to show care but i just still want
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to ask where the redemption is for the ones that have had higher body counts they can they can they
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can be there but it's a different but i'm just saying like i don't want to argue with you guys
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because i i don't want to change your opinion i just want you to just have empathy and love for
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someone let me ask let me ask you a question let me ask you a question do you think it's fair for a
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woman to care about a man's body count i wouldn't care okay but i never asked my husband those are
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your personal preferences do you think but he told me anyway do you think it's fair for other women to
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care about it that's up to them but i myself if they did i think i think everyone should really just
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forgive each other honestly i agree and listen here's the whole thing if you are going to be in
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a relationship and you both are focusing on talking about being serious because now it's got to that
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point if you want to talk about it i think it's okay as long as you're willing to hey i'm about
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to tell you something and i want to tell you something and i had to tell my husband something
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you guys this is why this matters to me too right before we got married i had to tell my husband
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something and i was so afraid to tell him scared to death you guys i had the wedding dress ready
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and everything and when i told him he was like it doesn't matter to me and i was like are you kidding
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me he goes no just for let's just stick to the scope of the conversation yeah um okay so you object
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to men caring about body count yes okay okay so i've only dated one guy and he didn't ask my body
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count but he said um when i told him who i was he said um he wasn't concerned that i was a prostitute
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he was concerned that i was a celebrity do you do you object do you object to men caring his concern
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hold on let me tell you because his concern was that i had had sex with a lot of people
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and that i would judge him that he would not be as good as the other people that i had sex with okay
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roger that but do you object to a man caring about it i never gave any i never gave it any any thought
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it doesn't matter roger that what about you i'll be quick but i think it matters not so much for the
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man's perspective but for like as an individual being accountable for what you've done and being
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okay with it and if you're not okay with it then that's where the issue i like but do you or do you
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not object to a man no okay okay okay amy doesn't object okay so most of you said you do object or
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you know whatever um so and i think some of you said body count doesn't matter shouldn't matter so
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if body count doesn't matter what is your body count
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i don't know i never really thought about it i'm gonna guess what do you mean you never
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really thought about it like just what there's an it's a number you know like it's kind of like one of
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the ethos um can you scoot the mic closer towards you like so it's yeah um i think five
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or six okay okay i think like nine okay sure i think like 12.
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sure i had four i'm sorry four prior to um work and i think i'm probably right now at like 15. okay
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um are we talking relationships or work both work i combined them you can tell us the relationship
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one and the other one work one oh you have a couple ones too oh oh okay you're whispering
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i thought you're talking about something about work okay um i wrote down the people that i slept with
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that i thought i was gonna have a relationship with even prior to being in the sex industry and it was
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about a hundred you guys are like whoa prior to being and i was i was about yeah wait so prior prior
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to doing sex work people that you were pursuing oh and it was it was during and during sex work as
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well oh yeah so until i got married 100 about a hundred oh so including work yeah about no no no
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not including work when when i was having forced sex i'm just saying this okay forced sleeping with
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people it was not a choice because i was with two men yeah i shouldn't it's about 20 or yeah i think
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i think and that was forced damn wait hold on just a second 20 to 30 15 a night 30 going on calls
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damn that's 10 15 a night going on a call so you you're not taking a day off okay when you say
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you did you about 100 with without work you had a pin i had two two different ones five years each time okay
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got it okay they were very violent too by the way okay yeah me too um
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um so before not including work you said a hundred yeah including the time i was working so
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in other words during the relationships with yeah when i was with the relationships with the pimp
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sometimes i would meet nice guys on the side and he was already cheating on my me i thought with other
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girls because i had wife-in-laws so i felt justified when i met a nice guy that just wanted to hang out with me
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and just cuddle me and have sex with me i slept with him it's just trauma so sorry well she found her
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man yeah i did and and and i win i win and you got saved from that you got saved from that by jesus
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yeah um you get to win too air force amy what about you at this point um only god knows
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and i hope it's a lot more you know where to see me but what about okay so there's men for work and
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then there's men for i've never she's only had one relationship i've only had one well i mean but
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even yeah but people like no one night stands no that's it that when that guy got everything you
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know like my first kiss he got my first without a condom he got my first everything so i feel like
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stained now you know now i feel stained everyone for marriage because he got my first kiss like
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all that first stuff okay i can get that and i loved him i loved him including work how much
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like i said only god knows that one honey how how old were you when you had that relationship it was
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like a year ago a year and a half ago um over under a thousand over over a thousand ten thousand more
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than ten thousand twenty years yeah it's who knows no god knows i mean i'm not going to try and count it
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sure what about you um i only share that with my brother i thought it doesn't matter hold up
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no i said it does oh you said it does yeah we keep it between each other okay there you have it folks
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okay very last thing here very last question um let's see oh wait actually i forgot one thing hold on
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as far as the body count goes multiply it by three and that's the real number just saying okay um
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it's always been a thing where they like tell you about is it american pie it's american
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pie is that where it started though yeah i think okay i hope so okay um would you object let's say
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you okay here's a scenario i'll paint uh you just started dating a guy you've been dating for
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two months you want to be committed he wants to be committed uh and he says hey i don't want you
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going to bars nightclubs and parties anymore do you say yes babe cool or do you say no you're not
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going to control me i'm going to keep going out i'm going to keep doing what i want to do
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what are your thoughts on that scenario i've done it before but at the moment since um i don't
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so i've done it before like i've i've not went out at all he being like he'll go out all the time and
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i didn't really care but now that i went back to like partying and like being with my friends again
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um i will need to have like a night or two with just my friends and then it's fine with me but
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it just depends okay so do you how often do you go out thursday friday saturday
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sunday monday tuesday because you guys are friends right yeah but i yeah um it's just okay
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this week how often did you go out um we didn't go out this whole okay okay generally speaking how
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often do you go out they're going okay during summer yeah it's summertime yeah okay during the
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summertime during the summer it'll just be like whenever i'll just be bored i'll just call my friends
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and be like let's go out so it'll be like about five times a week so it'll be like yeah
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thursday friday four times a week sometimes five sometimes not really going out doesn't count if you
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like go out to dinner with your girl and you have some drinks and cocktails right i don't think we're
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like going to the bar or going to the club like going partying okay like pretending to be simple
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it'll be like two days like three three or two days well you're still good okay sure um
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same with you two or three nights a week four nights a week yeah just i mean like partying probably
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like two or three and then like just like hanging out with like my friends like girlfriends okay like
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five yeah okay and so you start seeing a new guy and he says hey
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don't want you if it's a relationship but seeing no well let's say you want commitment from him and
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he says i'm prepared to commit to you but i don't want you
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going out to bars and clubs and drink until 2 a.m every night like oh yeah do you accept or do you
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say you're not going to control me just like that yeah i'll accept would you or are you just saying
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that no i would because i'm before you said like no i need at least one or two nights a week to go
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out with my like that's what i said like with my girl like to go eat like that's what i was saying
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but no okay yeah all right because i mean when i think of go out i think of something very specific
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but if i was like in a relationship i wouldn't go to parties okay same thing really yeah okay
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what about you i wouldn't but that's easy for me to give up because like i've already gotten to do
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a lot of that stuff like i'm 30 if i do you still do it um very rarely i don't really care to it's
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like a friend like friends will drag me out and then if i get a little hangover like i'm major regret
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because it just ruins your next productive day so okay it'd be easy to kind of have no problem
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giving it up none whatsoever yeah me either it's a welcome break i don't party um not much of a
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problem maybe just a little what do you mean what do you mean just a little um i think like if the
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person knows who you are and like this moments for example if i haven't seen my family and we want
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to go out like no i'm not i'm not talking about the club maybe you can leave the house you can leave
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the house like we go out in kosovo it's like dancing we're talking like you with your friends
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yeah i know what you mean you're drunk yeah a bit of dancing like already doing hood rat
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shit yeah i don't know about that but i feel like there's like a time and place these girls know what
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you feel like there's a time and place so if a person's like no what what were you gonna say
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they're just like no don't go out at all like i probably would listen and understand but i would
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probably not be with someone that's like that either not a problem for me rock and roll okay
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okay all right the guy actually responded oh wait wait but my phone my phone died but oh my okay
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whatever but he knows what he said he texted me on snapchat because i dm'd him and then he texted me
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on snapchat he said kate someone stole your phone you see we told you that's how funny he told you he's
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looking out though we need okay maybe we can have you guys back one more time and we'll try it again
04:57:18.860
with uh with some other male friends of yours uh andrew you said i was gonna ask him a question then
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i realized it was a dumb question okay perfect yeah we have respectful friends all right got a couple
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super chats there yeah just two super chats then we're gonna wrap up guys um lamb de sky thank you for
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the canadian hundred merci beaucoup our nature pulls us towards hedonism and animalism god guides
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us into elevation and humanity it's as simple as that hashtag jesus is the messiah but god is king
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uh i'm sorry i'm gonna have to that was a great super chat overall but i'm gonna have to call you on
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that last part bro christ is king this is what the bible tells us yeah this shouldn't be a but there
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this is uh this is a muslim this is certainly a muslim if they're saying that okay all right
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interesting there you have it well quran says to believe the bible so all right we have bender
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the offender here my health class teacher had a good analogy for how men and women think so true
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a man's brain is like waffles a woman's brain is like spaghetti real i don't get that at all you don't
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get that i don't like i completely i completely get that yep exactly what he's saying is that men
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are like more like logical and ordered and they're thinking women are like spaghetti okay i get it which
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is facts generally speaking some dudes are also like spaghetti some women are also like waffles
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yeah and some people are like unicorns what's another breakfast food i can pancakes pancakes i mean
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that's pretty much a crepe like some people are like crepes i love this is your brain i hate
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breakfast food great maybe like a little breakfast burrito breakfast burrito okay guys we are wrapping
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up here so guys thank you so much for uh tuning in tonight last call guys hit the like button please
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these are my old notes from the show with candace homes um thank you to all our chat mods any women
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who want to be on the show dm at whatever on instagram guys we will be live again what is it today's
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tuesday yeah we'll be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific and i'm gonna host somebody on twitch and i
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want the panel's input and the chat's input on who i'm gonna host on twitch so let me see here real quick
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we have let me see who we can raid over there on twitch uh let's see uh okay we got joker we got bobka
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and then so world of warcraft players let me see what joker d is up to one sec guys it's on tv joker d uh
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i don't think um while i'm getting this while i'm doing the rate would you would you ladies date like
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a chad world of warcraft gamer oh chad chad world of warcraft gamer like just he's right now the big
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thing in world of warcraft is hardcore mode so right now like the top guild frontier like they just
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cleared they cleared molten core they're have the world bosses on farm well they're still working
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on the green dragons you know um he's super good at world of warcraft he's top one percent really
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good at world of only if he's down to larp in the park what oh snap i sense a world of warcraft boyfriend
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in the future are you gonna get a second gamer tag i'm gonna write bobka magic butt cheeks
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on twitch what about a cs go boyfriend is that like huh cs go would you date a rogue like a level 60
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rogue no oh like he's gone whoa donated 500 dude thank you so much the show since i'm traveling for
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work but happy 100. uh the champagne trigger is a thousand yo thanks for that thank you so much mr
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meatball you're a legend so so good to see 500 more mr meatball i mean if he did yeah if he did 500
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more we could pop a champagne bottle but um i don't know we're trying to also wrap up here but uh
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i mean it's up to him um so i'm gonna rate those of you who are watching on twitch i'm gonna raid bobka
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he's a rogue playing hardcore world of warcraft i'll rate him in just a second someone said your love for
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world of warcraft is more hardcore than my love for christ true story uh i don't know about do you
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play world of warcraft no i i used to would you be interested if he did he's down to larp in the park
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larp in the park what's up slurp in the park so would you say slurp in the park i said let's larp in
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the park public indecency let's go okay oh uh what does 500 trigger i think that just that's mute a
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microphone i think but he didn't specify if you want i mean it's the end of the show can i just say one
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thing before we wrap up annie i know we got in some contentious debate throughout the show but i
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again want to thank you for your authenticity and your vulnerable your vulnerability sharing your
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story with us and also for the ministry that you have like god bless you can you get the front door
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let's go thank you sir thank you sir let's go whoa whoa whoa hey you be nice you be nice
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whoa mr meatball you gotta you gotta say something to her because i didn't say i said thank you
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oh that's of course yeah that's definitely what you said i did love your name
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i i thought maybe i heard it wrong i don't know also request for everybody in the chat yo if you guys
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believe in jesus let's get christ is lord in all caps in the chat please oh bro bro bro bro you
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already opened what the point it pointed away from the uh equipment pointed away from the
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equipment shoot him oh my god bro you should have let me do it hold on all right let me get it
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don't worry guys i know how to just don't like you don't hit your equipment the way you answered
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that i sound worried yeah yeah oh oh oh wow got a little spill there
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very nice they're nice i like uh so do i just start you do you drink yeah all right a little bit
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perfect yo look at all those crisis lords in the chat for the 100th episode let's go
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to god the glory i was pressing it so hard let's go what's that i said and you looked annoyed i was
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pressing it so hard uh is that your cup so i just like i just unfolded a bunch of cups for you so you
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can pass them out oh these right here yeah yeah okay unfortunately you guys are underage
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uh no this is um if anybody wants to come in with another thousand just saying we got another bottle okay
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schloss keep it coming see what happens look at all of these i'm being a gremlin let's go
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all right let's go this is awesome this is for chase doing a couple thousand and we'll find out like
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amy yes please thank you all right how they really play where boundaries lie i'm just kidding
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i'm just kidding i might actually be out here pretty soon i don't know i might not be able to get
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it for everybody chase you gonna have some or not you just gave me a cup air oh yes i don't know if
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are we it's almost empty yeah it's almost looks like okay redistribute i don't need a glass i'm good
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i don't drink much i don't drink much what is that ladies it's uh champagne i know but like
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because it it does taste pretty good it's schloss bee brick yo yo yo yo cheers to episode 100 cheers
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cheers to and then cheers to episode 1000 that's next yeah it's like you cheers and then touch
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and then you do that again but with the voice cheers to the bunny ranch yeah thank you cheers
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to uh hookers for jesus cheers to hookers for jesus and uh cheers to okay okay someone
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someone said there's so many cups on that five let's go true hey w w's in the chat for uh mr meatball
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he's been a patron for a long while now thank you so much for your patronage man it's uh i very much
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appreciate oh that looks bugged out um thank you so much for your patronage man uh thank you for tuning
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in for our 100th episode it's uh i've been doing this for the podcast a little over a year now and uh
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big milestone to hit and the podcast has been doing well so chat wasn't always so thank you guys
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put w mr meatball in the chat as appreciation yeah let's get some love for mr meatball i want to
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w's in the chat for mr meatball um i want to watch andrew's video one more time and then
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we'll proper wrap naked so righteous dude all right that's a good little outro video i love that video
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you know goes so hard now i can pay a better time because all i heard was the last part not the
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first part so i was like what does the man get a one night stand repent and believe the gospel
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you don't need you don't need no one night stand you need jesus oh it's so based
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it's a bit of a side eye like yeah it's so big you handed him the thing while telling him
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how do you get a one night stand so wait wait wait wait wait let's say you need jesus man let's say
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it on the podcast ladies mr andrew is single what's your uh instagram tag instagram at ac golden zero four
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one one ac golden zero four one one don't even uh try to come out and he's waiting for marriage
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would you would you date a buddhist no uh no okay just curious just curious um what was the
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question that the guy asked in the video how do you how do you how does a man get a one night
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i'm gonna ask you again here andrew how do you get a one night stand repent and believe the gospel
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you don't need a one night stand you need jesus man oh there you go all right cool all right guys um
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thank you for tuning in tonight for our 100th episode thank you very much thanks again to the
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wonderful panel we will see you guys again sunday at wait did i do i did all the chats right just one
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okay yeah i did we'll see you guys sunday 5 p.m good night guys see you next time