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00:01:34.140 going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead

00:01:39.060 um my name is wendy i'm 19 and um i do catering and student too right student yeah okay got what uh what

00:01:54.500 are you studying um criminal justice okay do you want to go into law enforcement do you want to be

00:01:59.820 a lawyer what do you what are you thinking yeah i want to go into law enforcement okay like police

00:02:03.840 officer you want fbi fbi okay federal bureau of investigation there you go all right watch out

00:02:09.640 guys okay go ahead um i'm caitlin perry i'm 18 years old and then i'm a server surfer a server oh

00:02:19.440 i thought you said server i was like sick i wish rock and roll um okay and are you also a student

00:02:25.040 no i'm taking a gap year this year taking a gap year okay gotcha uh when you go back to you know

00:02:30.320 what you'll be studying most likely business okay i feel like it's just common got it what about you

00:02:35.640 um my name is atlas and i'm a nursing student and i do only fans age oh 55 you're you're 55 years old

00:02:46.940 she's not 55 67 what no what's your what's your actual age 30 25 are you just gonna troll or what's

00:02:56.380 going on can you give us a real age i was gonna have people try to guess is that okay

00:03:00.940 um can you boost the audio a little bit nick uh it seems quiet is it not okay i want to be

00:03:10.660 respectful can you i'd like to know how old are you acting are you actually yeah surprising okay

00:03:19.360 thank you for wasting 20 seconds of the show's time go ahead hi i'm gg dior i'm 41 and i'm an adult

00:03:25.300 film star all right welcome thanks i'm annie lobert and i'm a non-profit owner and founder

00:03:32.800 of hookers for jesus and we help people that are drowning in the waters of sex trafficking

00:03:39.300 is that you said you said you guys help people that's probably to us uh let's not let's not uh

00:03:46.440 s trafficking let's use that yo ftd thank you very much for the memberships um and i'm 55

00:03:52.160 55 okay you guys help people get out of that industry nice god bless you guys for that

00:03:58.260 i'm air force amy and i'm a world famous legal prostitute i work at the world famous bunny ranch

00:04:08.220 and i'm 55 plus okay there you go there you go welcome thank you thank you

00:04:15.480 um my name is trendelina i'm 24 and i do data i'm just data analyst okay oh and i have a school

00:04:22.900 in cambodia as well in where a school where in cambodia cambodia yes what's what's your school

00:04:28.560 in cambodia it's just a school that's in a village it's a bit too far for like the kids to access

00:04:33.300 nick put it over to start please so yeah we just opened a school there with a few people that's

00:04:38.460 awesome hi i'm amy dangerfield i'm 28 years old uh i've been in the high ticket sales industry my

00:04:46.820 whole life but i'm taking a little bit of a break right now right on my name is chase 28 years old

00:04:53.280 professional photographer and brand consultant my name is andrew golden uh i'm 23 i'm an electrician

00:05:00.800 i uh play a little bit guitar and sing as well full-time electrician part-time giga chad sure

00:05:07.060 yeah and uh so you guys might reckon recognize andrew we're gonna pull up the clip here uh nick if

00:05:14.420 you're able to pull up that clip i should have it pulled up um let's just say he's a giga chad

00:05:22.760 um yeah we could go ahead yeah go ahead maybe you've seen it

00:05:27.320 all right there's the clip that's uh that's uh the the man the myth the legend himself uh

00:05:44.780 yeah if i may just say as well i saw that clip last year for the first time i saw it again this year

00:05:50.920 i posted it to my instagram because i think it's absolutely awesome and i'm stoked to be here on

00:05:54.900 the podcast with you bro all right bro what what was the story uh behind the clip where were you

00:06:00.540 um like what what's the story there it's really not much of a story it's just a random act of god

00:06:07.280 pretty much uh we i'm a christian we do evangelism out at the bars preach the gospel talk to people

00:06:13.320 about christ pass out gospel tracks which is just a little piece of paper that has the gospel written

00:06:19.600 on it and um so we were walking down to a bar called handlebar and just a random interaction

00:06:26.040 like i said hand him the gospel track he asked me that question he's got a camera in his hand

00:06:30.280 and there you have it it blew up so i i got a question that clip has gone insanely viral across

00:06:37.480 the internet so many people that i know have reposted it what in your experience has the reception

00:06:42.140 been to that clip how have people responded it's been actually very positive there i've looked at a

00:06:46.860 few posts where people have been negative about it but uh the female attention has been ridiculous i

00:06:52.340 can tell you that much but um have you had have you had chicks sliding into your dms like marry me

00:06:57.560 uh yeah uh mainly brazilian actually why why do you think why do you think mainly brazilians i don't know

00:07:06.600 there was a portuguese version that got like you know that one blew up more than the others so

00:07:11.840 i don't know did you like brazilian women sure but they're too far away oh okay um and you're from

00:07:19.760 where where are you from houston houston texas okay gotcha and that's where you grew up and that's

00:07:25.100 where you still live i still live there gotcha and so it was it was outside of some bar district yeah

00:07:30.040 this was houston yeah this was on washington avenue and there's a bunch of bars out there okay did you

00:07:34.460 guys have success bringing people to jesus that night that night was so long ago bro like i said it

00:07:40.200 wasn't a significant night but uh maybe you know the word goes out and god uses that word to

00:07:46.080 you know soften some hearts or harden other hearts so you never know what he's going to do with his

00:07:50.540 word yes he does all right rock and roll okay so we're going to go around the table once more

00:07:56.960 what is your current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship friends with

00:08:03.620 benefits relationship married poly cool sex cult i'm trying to think what other kind of dynamics

00:08:09.420 people are involved in these days um you you have a harem i guess uh so if you're single how long have

00:08:16.220 you been single and also what's your longest relationship you've ever been in starting with

00:08:20.580 you go ahead um i'm single i've been single for three months three months um

00:08:28.300 what was the longest relationship oh my longest relationship was four years four years gotcha so

00:08:37.200 it's like a high school relationship basically yeah basically yeah gotcha uh why did four-year

00:08:43.440 relationship why did it end why'd he dump you i dumped it oh okay my bad my bad okay um why did you dump

00:08:52.960 him after four years um because he kept cheating so oh yikes sorry to hear that damn kept cheating

00:08:59.680 so you found out one time i've been finding out yeah but you forgave him but he kept doing it

00:09:07.500 how long did he keep it up for before you broke it off

00:09:10.820 the whole four years about three years are you serious yeah so you found out like a year into it

00:09:18.360 and he just kept doing it for three years i found out like the second year and then the third year he

00:09:25.220 did again so that's when i'm like i was living with him so i just like literally called him my uncle i'm

00:09:30.060 like i packed up everything one day i packed up everything one day and i just left wait hold on you

00:09:34.800 were living with him and you called him your uncle no i said my aunt i called my uncle to come bring

00:09:41.280 his truck yeah i'm sorry no no no no your uncle i was like is that illegal no no but you were living

00:09:48.580 with your boyfriend during high school okay gotcha um how did that come to be um did you run away

00:09:55.760 from home or no i left home because it was just like separate things that was going on there and then i

00:10:01.740 just couldn't do like i did the same thing i did to him i just packed up my things and i just i just

00:10:06.680 left after the how many times did you catch him cheating i only um hold on let's do something like

00:10:15.520 three times i think three times yeah damn sorry to hear that um did you ever cheat on him or you were

00:10:24.100 always loyal i was loyal until

00:10:29.040 oh whoops okay until what um i found out the second time okay and then were you guys just like

00:10:39.500 mutually cheating on one another until no i just fooled around no after that like

00:10:45.760 i think like the third year we just stopped talking to each other but we still lived in the same house

00:10:51.660 so it was weird but um that's super weird yeah it was weird and then no and then we started talking

00:10:57.400 to each other again and then i just couldn't take it no more so i just left wow wait so how long

00:11:04.160 were you living together for the whole relationship three years um three years yeah okay so when he

00:11:11.600 would cheat on you would he bring women to no he was always gone during the weekends yeah okay i see

00:11:18.680 but i always thought i was like because he was with his friends but i was like sure i was a naive

00:11:22.340 yeah so when you would get i guess revenge on him would you bring the like if you cheated would

00:11:29.280 you go to the guy's house or would you bring him back to your place i'll go to the guy's house okay

00:11:35.220 all right gotcha okay uh what about you um i'm single uh i've been single for six months and then

00:11:43.860 my longest relationship was three and a half years okay also uh high school why did that end

00:11:52.260 why did he dump you i dumped him oh kind of kind of similar uh but he cheated on me a lot of times

00:12:01.200 a lot of times oh like probably over 30 times 30 oh he had three different relationships while with

00:12:08.040 me damn yikes yeah how'd that feel not great but i guess the question for both of you why did you

00:12:17.920 stay with them after not just one two but multiple times they've cheated on you because that was dumb

00:12:24.920 no don't say that was he just like giga chad like super attractive oh no no mine was ugly

00:12:33.500 mine too what mine was even short like yeah

00:12:37.380 mine was ugly oh wow okay and i shouldn't have um were they just funny is that what i don't i

00:12:49.720 good personality issues i guess yeah i just felt the need to like have company all the time i think

00:12:55.700 i just needed to leave was it the comfort like it's sometimes it's more comfortable being in a

00:13:00.380 relationship than even if it's not the best relationship than yeah breaking up going through

00:13:05.380 the heartbreak being single yeah okay exactly all right okay uh and you've both been you've been

00:13:11.560 single for three months you've been singles for six months uh you both do you guys live in this area

00:13:16.880 or do you live yeah okay i'm a born and raised in santa barbara oh you're from santa barbara are you

00:13:22.880 from santa barbara too uh i'm from san diego but i moved here like three weeks ago maybe a month

00:13:27.740 all right welcome welcome well uh i've heard from some of the like you know college girls that

00:13:33.920 they're not fans of the college men is that yeah no no like them why not we don't like them why not

00:13:41.860 they're groupies they're groupies i mean like they be i don't know are they they see you with

00:13:51.380 your home girls and then the next party they try to be with one of your home girls you know

00:13:56.020 and it's like girl code you know i was like i don't know okay they they're for the streets

00:14:02.480 yeah okay for the streets okay all right did you have any thoughts on the college boys you've met so

00:14:09.240 far or like them dislike them i just don't really care indifferent i don't know okay like whatever

00:14:16.160 you're you're gonna become a nun oh no okay sorry i just heard i just said they're like whatever

00:14:21.920 they're like whatever okay yeah okay i don't know all right sure what about you uh single and my

00:14:28.220 longest relationship was seven years all right seven years um how long have you been single for

00:14:36.500 a year one year okay why did it end the last one yeah or the seven-year relationship um the seven-year

00:14:45.500 one you would have to ask him were you married no okay wait you said you you would have to ask him

00:14:53.680 do you not know why he just ghosted you and no um gosh i wouldn't even know where to start he actually

00:15:00.780 broke up with me like two months before he got out of prison or before he got out of prison

00:15:06.200 but wait what was he in prison for what was he not in prison for did he did he kill anyone no

00:15:13.560 oh okay okay i guess that's what he wasn't in prison for yeah yeah wait so you were dating him while he

00:15:20.580 was in prison did you meet him on the outside or you like it was a pen pal thing you start sending

00:15:27.160 him letters next thing you know you're doing conjugal visits and say quentin that was my question more

00:15:32.040 okay no actually we were best friends as adolescents and we started dating after high school

00:15:38.500 okay how long into that did he go to prison for like how long had you guys been dating before he

00:15:45.800 went to prison oh many years we were kind of off and on though but i didn't really see other people

00:15:52.200 he didn't date other people but we would break up and get back together all the time it was really

00:15:56.180 not healthy sounds like a good relationship to move on from good for you a lot of jacked up

00:16:03.820 relationships around here so far welcome to california bro welcome to california um wait so kate he was

00:16:11.300 how long was his uh prison term it wasn't very long it was like 18 months okay might have gotten out at 16

00:16:19.380 months i don't quite remember okay i think he just wanted to get back to the streets

00:16:25.720 you mean romantically or for romantically and criminally because wow yeah because he knew that

00:16:32.760 i kind of typically steer him in a better direction and he did not want to do better for himself he's

00:16:39.900 back there now oh he's back in again yeah damn wow all right bullet dodge there your eyes kind of lit

00:16:46.540 up when i asked you why the last one ended why did the last one end oh my god oh she's trying to

00:16:52.320 avoid with the prison misdirection i don't even want to count that as a relationship because it was

00:16:57.680 one month so i don't know if that even counts does that count well it sounds like it ended in train wreck

00:17:02.840 what's the story yeah what's the story um it went like a million miles an hour which was the first

00:17:09.480 mistake he moved in which i kind of didn't want but i did let it happen and then um

00:17:15.800 he lost his job right away um he sat in front of a computer all day played video games was a little

00:17:23.620 bit messy didn't want to do anything like quality time wise like i like made bids and he didn't take

00:17:30.680 um and he went out all the time with his friends but he had no money to do that so i was just like

00:17:38.760 priorities why'd you keep him around i didn't i was trying to think of how like to get out of it

00:17:45.400 wait but so you said it was only one month yeah but at what point did he move in with you

00:17:51.620 immediately he he moved in pretty quickly and i let him what's what's pretty quickly

00:17:56.480 oh i haven't i need to adjust the tts i don't know yo yo

00:18:01.580 what up mike davis good to hear from you bro thank you for the offer i uh i already found my diamond in the rough

00:18:25.400 appreciate appreciate it there bro all right thank you mike davis good to hear from you guys um just

00:18:31.060 uh tts is i must have made a mistake with the tts setting it's 199 and up that but that one came

00:18:37.160 through so thank you mike davis um so he moved in right away or yeah how fast what are we talking

00:18:43.620 here oh my god like okay first date second date he moves in type of thing not necessarily so within

00:18:50.860 two weeks of making it official he was moved in but it was because he was getting another job

00:18:56.940 where he was going to be traveling for work and so i i was like he's just going to leave his stuff here

00:19:02.280 he's going to be gone for six months and we're going to have a long distance relationship and we're

00:19:06.220 going to be able to take it slow in that sense and really get to know each other but he was back

00:19:10.620 from that job within like one week like quit it or was fired i'm not sure and so then he was boom

00:19:16.660 just there in my apartment how long did he just hang around your apartment like a couch potato

00:19:21.180 before you kicked him out like two weeks and i didn't kick him out i just complained enough that

00:19:26.760 he freaked out and packed his stuff nagged you just nagged him to death and then he quit yeah

00:19:32.940 wait so did you know him before you ended up in a relationship yeah but not very well not like we

00:19:42.420 were friends forever like my one before how did they all meet um i met him through a mutual friends

00:19:49.040 in at a bar so okay all right gotcha maybe gotcha uh what about you divorced divorced and the longest

00:19:56.520 uh shy 20 you were so you're married for 20 years 17 yeah okay we were together for several years prior

00:20:04.120 to getting married so we were close to 20 okay you were gotcha you were together for 20 years uh how long

00:20:08.880 have you been single four years four years gotcha and so you're you say you're divorced but are you

00:20:16.060 are you in a relationship with somebody or just proper single just proper single proper single

00:20:20.860 have you had a rebound since the yeah i mean i've dated it's just messy like it's i it's not for me

00:20:29.280 okay it's like i'm very focused on like work kids so um oh you have some you have kids yeah one

00:20:37.180 two three four oh four kids all from the all from my husband yes okay gotcha uh got it uh did you

00:20:44.120 initiate the divorce or did he absolutely why why a resounding yes so during my last pregnancy i found

00:20:55.180 uh text messages um that he had an affair and then after and during the divorce i found that there

00:21:02.920 were 12 all together wow so yeah over what span of time 17 years so i mean it's not like it's not 30

00:21:12.460 in a year but it's it's i mean you're married you're committed there's there's more than just

00:21:18.160 like a relationship there so you you found out about all 12 at the same time yes so during how did that

00:21:23.960 feel uh that was um it was actually more um sorry um it was actually more freeing than um than it was

00:21:39.440 when i first started the divorce because i thought maybe i was ending everything over one um so after i

00:21:45.040 um finalized everything during um that time we were all locked up um i went through and i found

00:21:53.660 cell phones and that's when all the evidence actually came out so it was very like like yes

00:21:59.620 i made the right decision when when you discovered that did it like make sense yes everything like

00:22:06.200 you start to like replay everything in your head and you're like okay now when this person said this

00:22:12.660 and that's not normal and i would start to compare my my relationship with other people and they're like

00:22:17.380 i've never heard that my husband has ever been in a car with somebody else or blah blah blah and

00:22:23.160 that was just my norm so i justified it and i made excuses for it and you know you do stupid things when

00:22:31.360 you think you're in love so um but yeah it was uh it hurt of course um because you commit yourself

00:22:38.220 to one person and you say that this is going to be forever um but you like i did my vows in front of

00:22:44.300 god and you know like i like i felt i did it the right way and um you expect them to honor that

00:22:50.700 commitment correct exactly and when that's not honored it's definitely um a kick to the gut yeah

00:22:56.980 but then seeing that um i initiated the divorce and followed through with it after many times of

00:23:04.200 him coming back and saying i don't want you know please let's work it out let's work it out let's work

00:23:08.180 it out um finding that it was never ever gonna work doing i did the right thing and showing my

00:23:14.280 children that it's not okay to stick around no matter what like you know like you can try and

00:23:19.720 you can try and you can try but at a certain point you have to respect yourself enough to stand up and

00:23:24.600 walk away yeah that makes sense good for you thank you yeah could i ask you a question of course were

00:23:30.440 you doing the adult entertainment uh for the duration of your marriage um so i did uh professional

00:23:36.460 modeling during my entire marriage um i've done that since i was in high school right so we moved

00:23:41.400 into the adult world after okay yeah okay was that like a way was that like a vindictive thing like

00:23:50.640 all right now now i'm gonna shoot porn no it was a survival thing okay um because of again during the

00:23:58.040 time where i found all the text messages and everything we were all home and um being a single

00:24:04.320 mom at the time uh resources were extremely limited on different things and the other um businesses that i

00:24:10.740 had were a lockdown so i started web camming and so that's actually how it all started was just on

00:24:17.920 web camming and and only fans um and then it kind of progressed from there so if i may ask how do your

00:24:25.040 kids feel about your profession they are i've been very open and upfront with them from day one i felt

00:24:30.360 that if this was the decision that i was making um they needed to hear it all from me i didn't want

00:24:36.400 them to hear from it at school or from their father or whatever so i sat down um most of them

00:24:43.100 are very good with it they're all good with it now it took a little bit of um talking and like you know

00:24:48.980 open communication to get them all to understand um the premise and and you know kind of i mean

00:24:55.560 obviously i'm age appropriate i'm not gonna tell you know a small kid you know obviously all of the

00:25:01.780 details but for the most part um they all know exactly where i go have they ever taken any heat

00:25:07.920 for it at school no not that they've told me i mean um i know that there was some stuff that was

00:25:15.560 going around the adults at the school but i think because of the small town that i'm from um the parents

00:25:22.580 were all for the most part very respectful and didn't like you know pass it down so um they've all

00:25:29.060 been very you know supportive and the the school wasn't at first but you know closed minds sometimes

00:25:37.400 you know just need a little bit of explanation so yeah so okay uh and what kind of uh content are

00:25:47.700 you making is it solo content is it with uh is it with other women is it with other men i do all of

00:25:53.960 um so i started as just the solo cam model webcam webcam yeah and then i started solo um only fans

00:26:01.380 okay and then i slowly progressed into girl girl and then i had an agent call me about a year ago

00:26:08.620 and ask me um if i was interested in doing like mainstream films sure so um i've then since moved on

00:26:16.020 to like um studio films where like there's a producer and a director and everybody's fully tested

00:26:22.640 and fully consensual all right okay um if i could have you just slightly move your microphone that

00:26:29.720 way just it's perfect okay go ahead what about you i am in a current relationship i am married

00:26:35.920 14 years now and we met in 2007 over the internet and my husband is oz fox from the band striper

00:26:43.720 it's a famous band from the 80s rock band yes okay rock metal and they sing about like a hair band

00:26:50.800 they sing about jesus oh so based they uh they crossed over on mtv striper yeah they were famous

00:26:57.200 on mtv in the 80s no i haven't i want to look it up i want to look them up after this though check it

00:27:01.740 out yeah i've got a new fan here they're hardcore they're 40 years together now oh that's awesome so

00:27:06.160 he still performs yes he's leaving actually in a couple days ago on another tour gotcha so i'm

00:27:12.340 happily married okay are you like his biggest fan maybe he certainly thinks so do you have to do you

00:27:20.520 have to fight off his other female friends uh sometimes there's been several i mean when we first

00:27:25.420 got engaged uh he said to me hey i have this friend that used to come and watch me play at this other

00:27:31.100 bar in california and he would play with these side bands when his band wasn't on tour and i was

00:27:36.420 like oh really and i was at the destiny house watching over the first destiny house which is a

00:27:40.980 safe house for women that are trafficked and i clicked him on the phone because i was pretty mad

00:27:46.140 that he was going to have a former fan come down and visit but then i decided i'm going to show up there

00:27:51.920 and when i see her i'm going to show her the ring so i was in the bathroom and she was sitting

00:27:58.100 there at the mirror flipping her hair and with blonde hair i didn't know who she was she's like

00:28:02.940 oh my god oz fox is here and he's so effing hot i can't wait to just go up to him and hug him

00:28:10.440 and i got out of the stall and i said excuse me sweetheart he's taken and i showed her my ring

00:28:18.040 and she backed up immediately and i basically had a threatening stance so i kind of had my old self

00:28:25.600 rise out of the grave a little bit i almost got unsaved for a second

00:28:29.420 sometimes sometimes you gotta get heated i had i had to confront jesus brought made a court of

00:28:35.640 whips went into the temple i mean she understood she was very clear that she understood that you

00:28:40.440 need to not go flirt with my husband because i am now engaged wait uh you said you said um you you

00:28:46.860 got into your old self i if if i what's your what was your what do you mean by your old self how are

00:28:53.500 you in your old so it's one of my alter egos her name is fallon fallon yeah you're you got an

00:29:00.340 alter ego well not anymore but she's in the past she's kind of buried right now but sometimes she

00:29:05.360 occasionally pops up when i get really mad what what was what was fallon up to what was well

00:29:10.100 what was she doing fallon was in the sex industry okay for about 11 years straight i was an escort in

00:29:16.880 las vegas and a stripper okay so when you were uh fallon were you like beating people up because

00:29:24.280 you sounded pretty ready to well i used to be a dominance mistress no way whips and chains and

00:29:30.740 leather were you like whipping like ceos and stuff yes i've heard they deserved it

00:29:35.360 that's what they wanted so i mean to me working as a dominance mistress uh dominatrix i enjoyed it

00:29:44.280 way better than turning tricks because i didn't have to have sex what was your clientele like was

00:29:49.740 it like majority successful dudes because i've heard i've heard like really successful dudes love

00:29:54.560 hiring dominatrix escorts i had a lot of they call them regulars and yes they were ceos some of them

00:30:04.160 some of them were lawyers judges was it mostly like successful high-powered men or yes why why do you

00:30:11.020 think that is i'm fascinated by that you know there was one that i remember that i felt super

00:30:15.920 sorry for he would come to the door dressed in drag he would wear his mother's lipstick i'm not kidding

00:30:22.020 you he had on nylons and a red dress and then he would tell me it's time to be punished so i would

00:30:30.320 make him come to the door and i know some of you might get disgusted with this what what was his job

00:30:35.320 he worked at a big law firm okay oh he's an attorney okay yeah and i would make him come to

00:30:43.340 the door on his knees uh with the money in his teeth and i wouldn't let him touch me ever then

00:30:50.540 would you just like whip them and stuff or whatever he wanted i mean i never had to touch him with my

00:30:57.140 hands it was all tools you know chase i think to answer your question what my hypothesis is you have

00:31:04.760 these hyper successful men that have to be cutthroat in the business industry uh or their lawyers or

00:31:11.900 whatever it is and they're constantly having to be dominant in their professional life and in their

00:31:17.020 personal life and their perhaps in their sexual life they want to relinquish the burden of having

00:31:23.460 that sort of responsibility and just get fucking domed i guess i that's my hypothesis just sum it

00:31:30.280 up by calling it he was abused by his mother debased mind the romans it could also i guess be

00:31:35.220 abuse or something she used to choke him with her pantyhose it sounds really wicked right what good

00:31:41.220 times i feel like success like in and of itself inherently like produce those results i feel like

00:31:48.120 like if somebody maybe comes from like a background of trauma or they go through something like that and

00:31:52.320 then maybe they are not properly equipped to deal with the success that they get or maybe it comes

00:31:56.580 a little bit too fast or there's various other circumstances maybe something like that would

00:32:00.740 manifest but i don't feel like that's an inherent symptom of success no i it but it perhaps it could

00:32:06.920 in some individuals perhaps who have some maybe no childhood anything or did whatever it could

00:32:15.140 i that's what i've heard i don't know you had something you had something go ahead yeah i saw

00:32:21.000 like you're like i saw you on my tiktok feed it was like you were showing around some guy like where

00:32:26.400 like um like the different like escort spots like and you're like like you're just saying like a bunch

00:32:34.400 of like where the spots were and where like the guys like will often go where they were sit at at the

00:32:41.060 bars yes yeah in the big casinos okay and so but now you're not involved in that life uh when did

00:32:48.880 you stop i am involved in that well like not not working but saving people but i'm helping people

00:32:53.820 uh and uh when did you stop uh escorting or officially stop doing s work so i got engaged actually to one of

00:33:03.360 my tricks one of my regulars in may of 1998 i quit the escort services but i had a lot a lot of trauma

00:33:12.380 and i ended up doing drugs that next year doing cocaine and then our business failed that we had

00:33:22.620 together we had an automotive business that was in japan here in the united states and i was devastated

00:33:27.260 because i figured i didn't make it as a call girl i had two traffickers the entire time i was a call

00:33:32.640 girl almost i was renegading probably only one year out of that time i was working in the industry

00:33:36.880 so i never had anything good to show from it i had a lot of heartache a lot of times where i got

00:33:42.120 i can't say the word but you can fill in the blank i got assaulted many times by the men that would

00:33:48.680 purchase me and then the man that was taking all the money so i had a broken heart and so at the very

00:33:56.200 end i started escorting at the very end the last year it was august 2nd 2003 i overdosed on cocaine

00:34:02.400 and then i cried out to jesus and i've never been back since so it's been 20 years hallelujah

00:34:08.540 yeah so what was that conversion experience like with god well here's what's crazy when i was a

00:34:15.900 little girl i went to church and i loved it i remember getting cupcakes and candy and little suckers and

00:34:23.300 i remember saying the prayer that i wanted jesus to be living inside my heart and i brought this cross

00:34:30.800 home it was a luthan church and it was a glow and dark cross and i remember putting it up to the

00:34:36.060 light at night because i was afraid of monsters it's funny because the world does have monsters

00:34:40.900 nowadays right real monsters and i fell away from the faith a little bit when i was eight years old

00:34:46.820 because that next door neighbor was abusing me i mean pretty bad and i kind of lost my way for a

00:34:53.600 while i confronted my father for his my father was an alcoholic and he was taking pills and smoking

00:35:02.660 and swearing so i confronted him about all of it as a little christian little girl going daddy you have

00:35:09.000 to stop so i didn't want him to die and so after that he said i'm taking you out of that school it was

00:35:15.240 called trinity first lutheran and i went ended up going back in the regular school system and that's

00:35:21.120 where i met one of my friends that eventually showed me my other friend that we went out to

00:35:27.440 the bars and eventually as a teenager i met our first set of pimps so and i also got assaulted by

00:35:35.600 men throughout my teenage years and you know since i was a little child so it was a really really hard

00:35:41.660 life if if i may ask what what happened when you cried out to jesus after your overdose what was that

00:35:47.940 like well i at the time i was probably dying i had a heart attack wow so the ambulance came and i

00:35:56.380 remember hanging on to the emt's hand and i was just like i don't want to die but my heart i don't

00:36:02.460 know if anyone's ever had a heart attack my heart every beat that it was making it was going so fast

00:36:09.620 every single beat was like a stab of my heart and it scared me so bad i actually faded in and out of

00:36:15.900 consciousness but when i got to the hospital the doctor told me i had so much drugs in my system

00:36:20.280 that i should have been dead and i had this piece come over me that i cannot describe it's like the

00:36:26.720 best piece and the next couple weeks i was filled with this like it's kind of like a lava lamp the how

00:36:34.300 the the wax gets hardened when you shut it off but when you turn it on it gets like all googly and hot

00:36:39.080 and it's like it filled my body with just this feeling of love and i just wanted to love everybody

00:36:44.220 and god started healing my heart and he's still healing me to this day because trauma lasts

00:36:49.700 a lifetime i'm not perfect but i'm walking towards you know i i know we have to keep the

00:36:56.800 show moving but i just want to say thank you for sharing that it's it's you've had a hell of a life

00:37:01.000 and it's miraculous what god saved you from amen uh just one question you said you married one of

00:37:05.900 your tricks isn't tricks a derogatory term okay i didn't marry one of my tricks we actually got

00:37:12.000 we got disengaged i met my my current husband on myspace yeah different guy okay and i was a

00:37:20.260 mother to his yeah i was on myspace such a throwback i had my story on there that's how i met him i met

00:37:25.520 him through my friend heather veach and she was uh meeting with kevin max from dc talk you know that

00:37:31.700 band dc talk oh yeah and oz was meeting with kevin that night because they were in town making music

00:37:36.540 for the band so he found my myspace and read my story and he was like that's it i want that girl

00:37:43.260 like she's for me he didn't tell me that until later but yeah i think he fell in love with me pretty

00:37:48.980 quickly all right legit what about you that's a tough story to follow it's a tough story to follow

00:37:55.140 um so um i'm single and i had the longest relationship i had was like a year and a half

00:38:05.400 and it was strange that um i've never had a relationship my entire life until unlike most

00:38:14.240 people when when unlike most people when um everything um closed down and a lot of people

00:38:22.800 went to only fans and um went to that avenue i actually went in the opposite direction and

00:38:33.540 stopped doing what i was doing i was um worked in the legal legal brothel industry for over uh 25 years

00:38:41.200 and and i stopped and for the first time i took a break and thought that um it had been long enough

00:38:49.020 like 10 months and i said well wow i could probably have a relationship because i never just saw i

00:38:54.800 never thought i never saw how i could have one doing what i was doing it just never equated i was

00:39:00.820 it just didn't make sense so i went on match.com and i i met a guy and i fell in love when was this

00:39:08.260 this was um a couple years ago when everything was shut down um okay match so um people use it still

00:39:15.140 yeah well i didn't know what else to do okay yeah yeah you saw the commercial i never i never dated

00:39:19.720 or anything like that i just always worked uh and so the 1.5 year relationship is the one that

00:39:25.340 you're talking about yeah you met on match.com but that that ended so yeah you're currently

00:39:29.380 single back to work gotcha yeah and but so throughout the whole course of your life

00:39:33.560 never dated never a boyfriend never what about like a short-term casual thing you know like three

00:39:39.860 months two months one one client and i had said that i said that um i couldn't date that i would

00:39:48.060 have to immediately get engaged because i just didn't know how to date i don't know how to date

00:39:53.080 you didn't know how to date no do you think it was what it was it because you found it hard to date

00:39:59.600 because of the type of work you were involved in or but uh when did you at what age did you start

00:40:05.700 getting involved in uh what's the escorting court is courtesan courtesan i watched your show last

00:40:13.240 week and one of my co-workers was on yeah okay so you said courtesan and actually courtesan is a

00:40:17.920 euphemism i looked it up after i was actually wrong there i thought it was like a courtesan i was

00:40:23.400 thinking like okay you're in the court of king henry right you're a lord or ladies and you're trying to

00:40:29.260 garner favor with the king but it is it is actually i didn't know that so i was wrong but yeah it is

00:40:35.580 it is a term yeah um i'm called a legal prostitute sure right i mean wikipedia put a page up about me

00:40:42.000 and i don't get to edit it okay it's just there it is what it is i'm a legal prostitute i had a fight

00:40:47.200 to put the the term legal in front of it i've been a legal prostitute for over 30 years because

00:40:51.420 where do you work the bunny ranch in where is that in nevada is that pahrump or wait no no there

00:40:57.820 are um certain counties in nevada where prostitution is legal and is only illegal within a legal brothel

00:41:03.440 right and the and the county has to have less than 250 000 residents okay so that rules out clark

00:41:10.380 county and washoe county so reno and las vegas no no no so prostitution is absolutely illegal in las

00:41:17.920 vegas and reno but in the outlying counties the very rural counties in some counties there are some

00:41:25.420 brothels got it uh and uh so i work in lyon county where there are four brothels where

00:41:31.100 on my ownership we own kit kat sagebrush bunny ranch and love ranch oh do you have equity in

00:41:39.780 some of these or skin and love skin equity okay let's sweat tears and skin okay i got i got a question

00:41:49.000 what's what's the proper term for one of your customers uh clients a client okay we're not allowed

00:41:54.200 to call them t-r-i-c-k's we're in big trouble what about john's is that illegal marks that's a movie

00:41:59.780 isn't it like like like like oh he was he was a john right um if if i have a i'm curious uh if you

00:42:07.940 had to estimate how many clients would you guess that you've had over the years i couldn't estimate

00:42:13.320 you know that's a that's a common question how many how many guys do you sleep with per day and

00:42:18.800 this is so unfair to women because like with guys it'll be like how many girls have you slept with

00:42:24.700 and the more women you've slept with it's like oh yeah man yeah i mean more power to you i've slept

00:42:29.600 with 400 women in a day you're the man you know you know and but a woman if she slept with more than

00:42:35.400 one man in her life it's like you're a whore i'm gonna help you know you're you know you're you're

00:42:40.380 stained you know so and and that's just society that i'm more consistent in that area by the way

00:42:47.180 yes i i am as well guys will go to hell as well as well as women okay yes yes he's right you know

00:42:52.980 and it's just that some things that society has put on in some areas you know people are different

00:42:57.960 people operate in different areas in different arenas so it's just this arena and this religion or

00:43:06.020 this area says that's not cool but this area operates in a totally this other area operates in a

00:43:13.360 completely totally different arena and they're absolutely happy they treat people with respect and

00:43:19.380 and honor and love and everybody's happy and there's you know there's no meanness at what age uh did you

00:43:28.220 get involved with escorting very young very young i left home there was um incest in my family yes

00:43:34.140 there is a lot of women that do end up in my industry so we do get judged quite unfairly

00:43:41.300 a large huge percentage sex has been taken has been devalued from the get-go either in their family

00:43:49.200 or their neighbors or in school so when you say young do you mean 18 19 no i'm talking in six seven

00:43:56.520 eight years old yeah i've heard i've heard that's you know yeah no no i'm taught uh like when you

00:44:01.920 started started okay so okay so yeah i'm six seven eight years old we're talking grade school

00:44:06.700 tell you know uh no but uh panty shots for ice cream money okay yeah let's maybe avoid that topic

00:44:14.080 but um oh yeah but okay so but okay um i left home at the age of 13 and you started hitchhiking around

00:44:20.940 the country was that when you began working yes so they called that survival prostitution okay

00:44:25.760 damn damn and then you and that was scary that was very very very scary you wouldn't talk fear

00:44:31.360 based that was very you know running underneath trucks uh trucks and pockets getting cut out and

00:44:36.360 i mean girls getting gapped and it was i mean terrifying were you uh absolutely terrifying were

00:44:40.960 there periods of any homelessness i mean you're hitchhiking around the country you're going from

00:44:45.180 truck to truck the biggest shiniest truck what's next you know so this is what this is how i heard

00:44:50.600 about the brothels so we're going cruising across highway 80 and we're on the cbs back then this

00:44:56.200 was way back when the trucker strike was going on it was like cbs and uh um cbs and uh breaker breaker

00:45:03.860 one nine it was really yeah it was like convoy 100 it was like you know it was pretty cool but um we

00:45:10.260 heard uh with on the cbs i've heard the girls from the mustang ranch calling out to the truckers because

00:45:16.520 there wasn't any kind of advertising and and i heard that oh yeah this is a big palace and there's

00:45:21.720 beautiful women i'm like oh wow the truck stops are scary i want to go work there i want to go there

00:45:28.140 you have to be 18 years old oh man that's not gonna happen so i'll just wait until i'm 18 in the

00:45:33.500 meantime i kept hitchhiking around the country then when i turned 18 i joined the military instead

00:45:37.780 oh wow which branch of the military air force amy okay yeah oh duh duh yeah air force amy okay yeah so

00:45:45.500 and i was stationed at nellis in las vegas and i gave my my superiors an ultimatum i said you

00:45:51.640 either cross-train me give me a re-enlistment bonus or i'm going to go down work at the brothels

00:45:55.760 and you know they they didn't give me a re-enlistment bonus oh so while you were in the air force you

00:46:02.720 were also working no i didn't get a re-enlistment bonus so i went down to work at the chicken ranch

00:46:07.720 and i've been working in the brothels ever since oh it's like a safe house it is you know i'm i'm for

00:46:13.660 me i would say i'm the exception to the rule i'm kind of institutionalized and at this point it's

00:46:21.840 become such a career for me and i feel as though i'm in place because i have survived so many things

00:46:31.580 and i am an icon and not an inspiration but um i help the girls i think i'm i think i'm here for

00:46:43.740 a reason and i'm not going to say that i'm as religious as you but i am spiritual and i do the

00:46:53.720 next right thing and i teach the girls by example to do the next right thing we're honest

00:47:00.760 we're open we're not judgmental we follow as many commandments as we can if i may you are inspirational

00:47:10.440 so i think you can actually absolutely put that into your so success story and um

00:47:17.660 we just try to do the next right thing and we're we're preaching love and non-judgment humility you

00:47:23.420 want to talk humility yeah we're doing that and um we're god-fearing jesus-loving american-loving

00:47:30.460 god country and and family these girls have these girls have family and and we're just being you know

00:47:36.460 we're trying to have a good client base and just have fun and treat people with kindness and respect

00:47:42.620 and um a good hug a good cuddle a good it feels good man you know just it's a good human contact

00:47:52.300 some good human just good love care and just feel good andrew were you yeah you know when you say you

00:48:00.540 love jesus jesus was very clear you could look at the story with the woman at the well who was sexually

00:48:05.020 immoral and how jesus approached her he called out her sin and he called her to repent um also uh

00:48:13.100 jesus says if you love me you will keep my commandments um that doesn't mean you're gonna

00:48:17.900 be perfect nobody's saved by keeping the commandments right we all fall short every day

00:48:22.540 all the fall all of sin falling short of the glory of god you're saved by faith in christ but that faith

00:48:28.220 is a living faith it causes you to repent and turn away from uh prostitution any kind of sexual

00:48:36.060 immorality sexual immorality goes as deep as jesus said if you look with lust you've committed

00:48:41.980 adultery in your heart right so it's not necessarily particular actions of immorality

00:48:49.260 those are sin but the problem is our heart is our corrupt heart our desires so that's why jesus said

00:48:57.180 you have to have a new heart you have to be born again john chapter three and in order to enter the

00:49:01.500 kingdom of heaven so you know i understand that it's offensive to say you need to repent this is wrong

00:49:07.500 you know um but it's ultimate ultimately a message of love that comes to you and uh you know i'm sitting

00:49:17.100 here listening and i'm hearing a lot of broken relationships a lot of broken messed up lives

00:49:21.420 you know but this is what jesus came for he came to he came for the horse he came for the prostitutes

00:49:29.020 to save them and deliver them from their sin um if you call on him you will be saved but he requires

00:49:34.940 repentance and that's what salvation brings is repentance anyways i appreciate your love i do i

00:49:40.700 appreciate that i honestly do i appreciate your love thank you i i have a follow-up question to what he

00:49:46.620 just said out of curiosity if i got if god offered you a path out of the industry would you take it

00:49:53.420 if i could take everyone else that wanted to go with me that's a loving answer that's a loving answer

00:50:00.140 all right well uh what about you go ahead sorry did you have a follow-up there or i would just uh

00:50:05.420 actually this is a fantastic opportunity because i know there's a lot of people listening especially from

00:50:09.980 my audience i would ask everybody that's watching if you guys are believers please pray in jesus's name

00:50:15.740 that god offers her and all of the women that work with her a path out of the industry please pray for

00:50:20.860 that contact some churches in the meantime can we have a lot of clients uh let's not let's not pray for

00:50:27.740 that um actually just really quick really quick before you go i have to read a couple chats here uh

00:50:34.060 these are below the threshold but they came in before the show and uh i think this is uh coasting so

00:50:40.780 we have klaus von goat yo thank you very much hey brian good show the other day with candace 60 hunter

00:50:47.420 he's talking about world of warcraft there thank you uh discuss just kidding uh is the hunter hardcore

00:50:53.420 or is it on classic era hey thank you so much man good to see you we also have another one from him

00:50:58.220 we have klaus von goat with the 101 that's about to come up i'd like to nominate dr sydney kiki watson to

00:51:04.940 the board of directors of brian's 501c three charitable organization blm all in favor say yay all

00:51:11.820 opposed nay and bl uh big labia matter okay all right thank you klaus i didn't mention it but that's

00:51:20.380 my non-profit anyways i i'm okay we have uh let's see we have oh that's okay spartan hoplite donated

00:51:28.540 two hundred dollars thanks bro congrats on episode 100 chase stop being a pussy and co-host the show

00:51:35.900 with brian he needs backup brian does his best but is constantly outnumbered it's true this podcast is

00:51:43.100 300 xerxes hordes must be stopped this is sparta no mercy awoo awoo awoo uh thank you uh

00:51:55.260 uh appreciate that bro thanks for the comment thank you man uh we have mike davis

00:52:02.700 oh sorry this one already came through my bad my bad okay um and then let me see okay we're all caught

00:52:07.980 up uh what's your relationship situation like um i'm in a relationship it's been one year and five

00:52:14.860 months and it's long distance at the moment yeah that's your longest relationship yes yeah okay

00:52:23.100 okay oh hey fdg thank you very much for the 50 gifted memberships uh that's my uh sugar mama so

00:52:29.980 thank you appreciate it uh just kidding not really um a little underwhelming sorry after all those

00:52:35.580 stories um how long did you say it was a year and a half actually okay yeah wait uh where are you from

00:52:41.660 because you have an accent um australia but my family is kosovo albanian albanian oh okay all right

00:52:48.540 yeah okay nice amy what about you i'm single i've been single for four months my longest relationship

00:52:55.740 was four years all right jeez i currently have a wonderful girlfriend been together three months

00:53:04.140 and my longest relationship was a year and a half roughly okay uh currently single actually never even

00:53:14.700 had a serious girlfriend you know i've had some things here and there we've we've almost had a

00:53:20.860 serious relationship but nothing's ever panned out yet so and not looking for any one night stands

00:53:26.300 definitely not uh looking for marriage 100 yeah what about what about all these brazilian chicks dog

00:53:32.060 not too far away man what if what if one flew to you would you be down sure she came and visits

00:53:38.060 can i ask i'm not gonna i'm not gonna pay for the flight how are you looking for marriage like what

00:53:44.620 are your kind of techniques for something like that um well i'm trusting god 100 i'm really not even

00:53:51.820 looking for a wife uh very hard right now i'm really just focused on the kingdom and and defending

00:53:57.180 the faith and i know that ultimately you know god's gonna bring the right one in my path and uh as i

00:54:05.260 continue to serve him and seek to you know grow as a man grow uh into the image of christ he's gonna

00:54:13.740 bring me the right one i'm not in a rush you definitely don't want to rush this thing and

00:54:17.100 that's i think that's where a lot of people get it wrong they they rush relationships what does that

00:54:22.620 look like to you like what does the perfect the right woman yeah uh well she has to love god she has

00:54:30.860 to uh if she loves god she's going to uh really if she's even if she had does have feminist tendencies

00:54:39.500 uh if she truly loves god she's going to you know more conform to his word and even if we have to

00:54:45.020 argue a few things out you know she doesn't have to be perfect that's my point right she she may have

00:54:51.180 some some problems there but if i can work it out then you know i'll stick with that kind of woman but

00:54:57.420 if she's not willing to change then you know when you say change what do you mean be more

00:55:03.100 submissive she has to be okay with being submitted to the husband as the scriptures say

00:55:09.100 modest not promiscuous um in her apparel in her dress um she has to be attractive i have to be

00:55:18.060 attracted to her um that's really it i'm a simple man she's gotta love god she's gotta look good

00:55:23.740 yeah let's go so based okay let's go there you have any deal breakers uh

00:55:32.940 i don't really think so i mean i think i covered everything if she's too much of a feminist then

00:55:37.020 yeah that's a deal breaker yeah about that like some people say jesus was like the first feminist

00:55:42.460 absolutely not he told women how to read and empowered them through like hey look nothing wrong

00:55:48.060 with women reading i think women need to be highly intelligent they need to be highly educated where

00:55:53.420 did you hear he taught women how to read people yeah where they hear that from probably other people

00:55:58.780 yeah probably yeah yeah probably no no it wasn't from a feminist um i just think it's like religion

00:56:04.380 as a whole is quite like educational and so i feel like he gave people opportunity to read and to learn and

00:56:10.060 that's what they were pushing then um you know i really wouldn't define feminism as empowering women

00:56:16.780 to read have education or read books um feminism is more the idea of egalitarianism that men and women

00:56:27.420 are equal now men and women are equal in the sight of god but other than that we're pretty much unequal

00:56:33.420 on every level we think differently we are built biologically differently and so that results in

00:56:42.220 societal differences and a different role to play in in relationships you know we can't we can't have the

00:56:47.500 same role god designed the man to be dominant and the woman to be his helper in genesis god made yeah

00:56:55.500 i would say the best example of feminism in the bible is when uh eve led adam to eat the fruit

00:57:01.820 and cause mankind to fall i'm not kidding that's feminism in the bible for you you know it's you

00:57:08.220 know what's interesting about that too is the early feminist writers explicitly wrote about how they

00:57:12.940 worshipped lucifer for liberating women from the patriarchy of yahweh i just when i think of feminism i

00:57:21.500 think of like just equal opportunity education everyone is treated fairly i think understanding

00:57:27.980 differences is a part of that as well ultimately ultimately feminism is about uh liberating women

00:57:35.100 it was about pushing promiscuity to destroy the patriarchy but the reality is patriarchy is inevitable

00:57:42.060 you guys you're going you're going to go you're going to have some guys at the top of this whole system

00:57:48.700 and uh even if a woman she wants to be a career woman right she goes out she becomes her own boss

00:57:54.860 a girl boss a girl boss ceo she's still either going to be serving well she's not going to be

00:58:00.060 serving the heavenly father she's going to be serving the father of lies she's going to be

00:58:02.940 serving satan so let's go you're going to be submitting to something

00:58:12.940 is that what you mean yeah okay you may not be like legitimately worshiping satan but if you're not

00:58:17.660 following after christ you are yeah but isn't like part of christ's service so like let's say her career

00:58:22.300 is based around service and love i mean that's a good thing yeah that's that's a good thing but if

00:58:27.820 she is really pushing back just because sometimes like when we have these conversations people can

00:58:31.980 like say their ideas and it's very generalized and it's not specific and i kind of think like the

00:58:37.820 specifics are extremely important in understanding each other i wanted to say something really quick

00:58:43.100 i'm a ceo and i've been my own ceo for years and i take care of these women and i don't think a man

00:58:50.380 could do it because they're the ones who hurt them and a man cannot be over that house and the

00:58:56.780 and the safe houses we have because there would be too much temptation for other things to go on

00:59:01.420 because what happens when they start going to church and they start being around men they have

00:59:05.820 a tendency to lean into them and try to start a relationship so i'm in my right standing so you

00:59:12.940 said guys can't be ceos no no no that's not what she's saying she's saying her unique position is

00:59:19.100 one that only she as a woman could fill and i would i would also add to that i would i would add to that

00:59:25.500 uh i would add the nuance in the conversation that you are very very well serving god in the position

00:59:31.340 that you're in bringing women out of you know prostitution whatever else wherever else they are like

00:59:36.700 you're absolutely serving god in that position and i would also agree that a man almost certainly

00:59:41.260 couldn't do that same job in the way that you're doing because you are uniquely equipped to have

00:59:45.420 compassion for them as a woman that's had the same experiences and stuff what he's getting at though

00:59:50.860 see the thing about feminism is there's there's been different waves of feminism right like at first

00:59:55.660 it was about empowering women uh with like equal opportunities and stuff you look at it today

01:00:01.020 a lot of the messaging coming out of feminism is that men are bad uh the differences between the sexes

01:00:06.780 are like social constructs and that like you know traditional ideas around masculinity and femininity

01:00:14.540 are bad social constructs that are oppressive and patriarchal right and in that sense that form of

01:00:21.260 feminism is absolutely not compatible with god's word because god charges us as men to lead in our

01:00:27.900 households right like we're charged with leading in our households we're charged with providing we're also

01:00:33.100 charged with loving our wives in a christ-like fashion right but it does the bible does give men

01:00:38.940 authority in that way over their household that it does not give women in the same way but that's not

01:00:43.500 a bad thing no of course not and like i see it happen in kosovo as well it's quite traditional still

01:00:49.020 um but i just was a bit confused about the whole working and servicing and so that's why i'm just asking

01:00:53.980 proverbs 31 is where the ideal woman is her characteristics are given yeah and she works hard she does a lot of

01:01:01.100 yeah you probably like yeah i see it there as well it's like they don't stop and so i'm not against

01:01:06.940 a woman being a ceo if that's you know how i came across and also but but she should not be rejecting

01:01:13.820 the family in favor of being a ceo right god designed them to raise and nurture children yeah i think what

01:01:20.620 he's getting at is a lot of women that like nowadays a lot of women that are working or in high-powered

01:01:25.580 positions because they're making a lot of money they have authority in their careers so on and so forth

01:01:31.260 they completely reject the leadership of the man in the home right they view themselves on equal

01:01:36.540 footing or instead they they will say no actually i'm going to leave the family and what does like

01:01:41.420 the rejection look like so you mean rejects them yeah so i'll give you an example uh in my family

01:01:47.580 for example when i was growing up my mom and dad had tension in terms of who was leading the family

01:01:52.460 in what direction and there were times you know andrew was talking about the concept of submission

01:01:57.660 right this is the idea that when you know when you have a husband and a wife the husband has the

01:02:02.460 ultimate authority over the household my mother on a number of different things didn't want to submit

01:02:06.940 to my dad one of the areas in which she did not want to was through financial decisions my dad would

01:02:12.540 say we should live more within our means my mom was like no we should take these riskier financial

01:02:17.420 maneuvers so that we can make more of a profit he would push back against it she wouldn't listen we

01:02:22.620 got destroyed as a result of it financially in the 2008 housing crash that was an example where my dad was

01:02:29.020 trying to exert his leadership my mom would not submit to it and we got burned as a result does that make

01:02:35.900 sense yeah also a question for chase uh if you're uh for when it comes to religion when it comes to

01:02:42.380 christianity and it comes to some submissiveness submission isn't it the husband uh is it the husband

01:02:49.740 submits to god yes and then the wife submits to the husband is that i don't know if i'm phrasing it

01:02:56.300 no that's that's that's correct a woman within christianity and i would say this for all all

01:03:01.420 women as well like when it comes to the idea of submission if i was a woman i would only want to

01:03:07.340 submit to a man if i knew that he was submitted to god right within the red pill community you have

01:03:12.540 all these dudes that don't believe in god they don't believe in jesus and they talk about well women

01:03:16.860 need to be submissive but then these same guys are running through tons of women outside of the

01:03:21.180 relationship and they hurt their woman right that's not christ-like leadership in a relationship

01:03:26.220 as a man if i want to lead a woman and i want her to submit to me in marriage i first have to do the

01:03:33.660 job of being fully submitted to christ which means that i'm going to love her with compassion and mercy

01:03:39.020 i'm going to be submitted to god's word i'm not going to be committing adultery outside of the

01:03:43.180 relationship not going to be beating her you know all that kind of stuff like that's that's that's the

01:03:49.020 that's the order the man submits to god and the woman submits to the man god let's open it up to the

01:03:53.660 panel here so uh some of you kind of grimaced when um when uh it's andrew right yeah andrew sorry uh

01:04:01.420 mentioned you know he wants a woman who's submissive to him do you think that you ought you

01:04:08.060 women should be submissive to their boyfriends to their husbands in relationships or are you more like

01:04:13.020 i'm more interested in a 50 50 dynamic let's start with you and we'll go around the table go ahead

01:04:18.620 what what is a 50 50 diamond like 50 50 you guys both have an equal bill on the first date

01:04:25.980 um how else do you explain like 55 i guess you guys like you both take care of the finances you

01:04:31.980 have an equal say in the decisions over the home so on and so forth so before my four like during my

01:04:37.820 four year um it was 50 50 but it was mostly me doing everything okay you were you did you wear the

01:04:46.460 pants and yeah i wore the pants was it like 75 20 or 25 like it was um i was supporting a bum let's

01:04:53.020 just say like that well i was like 95 yeah oh you were working and he was what just staying at home

01:04:59.020 playing video games type of thing or like we'll work um for like a week and get tired of it

01:05:05.020 oh yes okay and so you guys you guys were living together correct yeah and you you were paying most of

01:05:11.660 the rent okay so 50 50 and everything yeah so i didn't throw up like how old was he can i ask um

01:05:21.980 when yeah when i was so i met him when i was 16 i met him when i was 16 and he was 17 turning 18

01:05:35.900 okay yeah yeah romeo and juliet is that romeo and juliet i don't know i don't know i was just

01:05:42.140 expecting him to be like way older because i always hear that kind of stuff happen but that's

01:05:47.580 okay all right she was anticipating like the dude was like mid 20s yeah i know but after that

01:05:53.420 it's now it's like you don't you don't want that you don't want to repeat that sort of relationship

01:05:58.620 dynamic that you had with your ex-boyfriend first day i expect you to pay okay all right gotcha

01:06:04.620 what's i besides like paying on the first day what would be an example where uh a woman should

01:06:10.620 submit to be submissive in a relationship i mean there's like a million different things you could

01:06:15.980 point to if you're looking at a place to move a place to send your kids in a relationship um if

01:06:22.220 you're setting boundaries in a relationship like if you're telling your woman hey like you can't go

01:06:25.820 out to clubs all the time you know like yeah what do you think what do you guys think that's a good

01:06:29.820 one i need to know how purses women are supposed to be submissive when there's not a lot of dominant

01:06:36.620 men out there in my experience i think and chase i think you've said this before you should you

01:06:42.460 shouldn't just submit to anybody you should submit to the right type of guy and chase i don't know if

01:06:46.380 you have anything to add to that yeah i mean absolutely that's a great question that's a great

01:06:50.460 where where are the dominant men yeah yeah i've not come across any in my experience so far so here's

01:06:58.860 here's what i've noticed about women wanting to submit the female impulse to submission is very

01:07:06.060 natural when women feel like they can trust a man and they feel like his leadership is trustworthy and

01:07:13.180 good and he's strong right if you feel that from a man you're just gonna be like okay like tell me what

01:07:18.540 to do like what what should we do most of the time yeah unless you guys like unless unless there's

01:07:24.860 something that's the big word safety safe yeah and and like a lot of guys nowadays especially don't

01:07:32.460 really know how to lead women they don't know how to do it effectively so if you meet a guy who doesn't

01:07:37.100 know how to lead a woman and he's like submit to me you're gonna be like why like your your leadership

01:07:43.020 isn't good you don't know what you're doing and then we get the backlash because we're we're like

01:07:47.740 they're like whoa nobody's listening well i'm not just following you in blindly like you need to

01:07:54.860 explain to me why this is important and why i'm doing this because i i completely agree with her there

01:08:03.580 our society is weakening daily with the strength of men yes and i feel that the reason that women are

01:08:11.180 getting so much stronger is out of necessity well that's that's part of it part of it there's been a

01:08:16.300 sociological push especially in the past hundred years to empower women as much as possible and to

01:08:22.700 also tell women that they don't need men right so that's one part of the equation the other part of

01:08:27.900 the equation is that men have been demoralized and weakened by propaganda uh there's an assault on our

01:08:34.940 endocrine systems right so like a strong man like when you see a strong man and you're like that's a man

01:08:41.100 that i respect like he's a man who can lead he probably has higher than average testosterone

01:08:45.820 levels right this is the hormone that makes a man a man if you remove this from a man's body he's going

01:08:51.180 to become weak if he has enough of it he's going to become strong male testosterone levels right now

01:08:57.580 are half of what they were in our grandparents generation so you look around and you're like yo

01:09:02.860 there's all these soy boys the reality is you're right biologically yeah soy boys literally all

01:09:10.300 these estrogen yeah it lowers a man's testosterone right so women have been elevated told that they

01:09:18.700 don't need men the men have been weakened and now there's women like you guys you're looking around

01:09:22.940 you're like where are all the strong men right it's a frustrating spot to be in i have a strong man

01:09:27.420 there's a lot of women who have a lot of testosterone now too it's it it's an attack on both

01:09:34.620 yes there is absolutely an attack on both sexes both on a biological level and also on a psychological

01:09:39.900 level but would you say it's more pronounced in men because i mean what i think you have happening is

01:09:45.500 like the plastics that are in the water like these microplastics and stuff that causes uh estrogen or

01:09:53.740 so a lot of those are called xenoestrogens right so they they're they're like synthetic hormones

01:10:00.220 that fit into your hormone receptors this is why a lot of women are reaching puberty earlier than

01:10:06.460 they're supposed to like young women nowadays reach puberty way faster than like 50 years ago

01:10:14.140 yeah and when those same chemicals go into men they make us infertile they lower our testosterone like

01:10:19.740 there's there's all sorts of effects so it's screwing up both sexes but it's primarily feminizing

01:10:23.740 hormones and it's not just in the water right it's in like all these plastic products water bottles this

01:10:28.380 this cup if i put this in the microwave for like 15 seconds this would leach a bunch of xenoestrogens into

01:10:34.060 it yeah like it's this is why the bunny ranch exists because people come to figure out why

01:10:41.340 their sex life isn't as robust as it should be oh i'm not sure if that's where we were going

01:10:48.540 exactly no but yeah it does affect your sex life yeah and maybe even preference because of the study

01:10:54.380 of the frogs yeah i mean there's there's so check this out there's there's a ton of different stuff

01:10:58.700 right so if if you go to the store you buy say you buy a a packet of steak for example the plastic wrap

01:11:05.500 on top of it that's going to leach xenoestrogens into the steak women on birth control which is this

01:11:11.900 is a very interesting thing when women take birth control they've done studies women on birth control

01:11:17.660 more often than not prefer men with less masculine facial characteristics really yes

01:11:25.900 so women you hear stories about this all the time a woman will go on birth control and not be

01:11:30.540 attracted to her boyfriend anymore or she will be with a guy get off of her birth control and then

01:11:35.660 all of a sudden she's like wow i'm not sexually attracted to my boyfriend at all there's there's

01:11:39.420 a massive assault i wanted to say what'd you say aren't those like like freak occurrences

01:11:44.300 i really just okay it's common it actually happened to one of my best friends i got married to my

01:11:48.860 husband we went on our honeymoon the doctor put me on birth control and you can ask him just dm him

01:11:56.620 i did not want to have sex with him and i was angry at him and i told my doctor get me off this junk

01:12:05.180 so she took me off and we were back to normal nice that's see that that's a perfect example you know

01:12:10.540 the other thing about birth control too this is crazy so you guys know what pheromones are like the

01:12:16.700 things our bodies admit admit you know you smell a healthy person's pheromones makes you more

01:12:21.100 attracted to them makes you want to have sex with them so on and so forth a person's you can actually

01:12:25.820 smell a person's pheromones and if their immune system is a good match for your immune system in

01:12:31.020 terms of producing a kid they will be more attractive to you okay so they did a study where they had men wear

01:12:36.940 shirts for like three days and then they put their shirts in plastic bags and they had women on birth

01:12:42.540 control and off birth control smell the shirts the women who were off birth control when they smelled

01:12:48.460 the shirts they were attracted to the men who had complementary immune systems and the women on birth

01:12:54.140 control had they couldn't tell which men they didn't they weren't more attracted to the men with good

01:13:00.140 immune systems for them how could they tell if they had complementary immune systems what was the test

01:13:05.260 for that they like studied i don't know like their dna or their like microbiome something like that i

01:13:10.220 don't know where was the study found where was it found yeah like that just just online yeah yeah

01:13:16.940 if you if you look up studies on how birth control changes women's mating preferences there's like a ton of

01:13:22.700 literature and it's dramatic uh show of hands who's on birth control currently i think mine is non-hormonal okay

01:13:30.380 well yeah there's there are some non-hormones is it the copper iud it's an iud and they just they

01:13:37.020 when i went in to complain like well i didn't go in to complain i was doing a lot of research on hormones

01:13:41.260 and i went in and i said i want to get my hormones checked sure um they said why your birth control

01:13:46.300 doesn't contain any hormones and i was like oh weird i don't know how that's possible how does it work

01:13:52.380 then um i think it just blocks the the fallopian tubes from releasing the egg into the uterus to

01:13:59.660 get fertilized it's like a little yep like an umbrella with a copper word a copper spring at the

01:14:07.420 bottom of it and the copper also destroys any type of implantation okay we're talking we're talking

01:14:15.340 we're talking the feminization of men i can draw you a picture i want i want to i want to drop one

01:14:19.180 of my conspiracy theories okay so when was when was the birth control pill introduced late 60s i think

01:14:24.940 68 what is okay so everyone's getting all freaky it was around the feminine like it was around the

01:14:32.620 feminist movement all right so we got all these weak guys nowadays how many generations of women have

01:14:38.220 been on birth control when they picked their husbands then came off the birth control and got pregnant

01:14:44.940 and has there been for the past 60 years a selection pressure artificially from birth control

01:14:51.420 making women choose to mate with men that have more feminine characteristics and are though are there

01:14:57.740 ops are you guys following me i'm like that's like multiple general okay so like if if birth control

01:15:03.660 makes women prefer men with more feminine facial features women go on birth control they find a dude

01:15:09.660 they marry him they get off the birth control they have kids that's generations of women

01:15:13.260 picking with men with more feminine characteristics and then producing kids with them i think we're

01:15:19.020 doing like eugenics like we want all women everywhere a world of women only but it's not

01:15:25.020 not like a world of women only but like it's like it's like a dysgenic like psyop making women have

01:15:30.700 more feminine boys who's in charge of the psyop went down i can't answer that question otherwise this

01:15:35.900 channel would get if we're on birth control we come off to have children and those children are now the

01:15:41.900 boys of the world could that birth control be leading to the feminization of men it's possible

01:15:49.100 i don't know like while they're in the worm you mean well like no i'm not you're not taking birth

01:15:53.340 control while you're pregnant but the left over effect the residual effect 100 100 so it's possible

01:15:59.100 saying that it's leading us to be attracted to more feminine men what's to lead it to not

01:16:05.020 um produce that's the point produce a more feminine i mean it it might you know i'm just

01:16:13.820 adding to your when women take hormonal birth control it's just brute forcing their bodies with

01:16:18.460 tons of hormones and it also can deplete nutrients this is why a lot of women actually become infertile

01:16:23.660 after they they come off hormonal birth control all those nutrients maybe you're making less feminine or

01:16:29.020 more feminine boys you know it's there's a lot of stuff at play it's possible i don't know once you start

01:16:34.220 just like adding tons of hormones to the body though and all of these like poisons in the

01:16:38.140 environment like you get screwed up people and also one thing i feel like you forgot to mention

01:16:42.540 was like most like boys are not growing up with a father yeah in the home yeah and i think that's like

01:16:49.500 really bad yeah it's really really bad so bringing it back to the question in terms of

01:16:57.580 do you want to be submissive you want to prefer 50 50 in a relationship i think we had wendy answer uh what about

01:17:03.420 you um i think it just depends on the relationship like the person like if the guy's okay with being

01:17:12.780 submissive and the girl wants to be dominant okay if the girl wants to be submissive that's fine too it

01:17:18.620 kind of just depends on what each of them want what the relationship looks like which do you prefer yeah

01:17:23.340 what do you prefer 50 50 you like 50 50 you don't would you don't want like a strong boyfriend who

01:17:29.820 wants to lead and you can follow him i want a strong boyfriend but like i want to be able to have the

01:17:34.540 opportunity to push back a little bit if my opinion differs like if i want something different and it's

01:17:40.380 important to me i don't want a boyfriend that's just going to be like oh no you don't want a tyrant yeah

01:17:46.060 i don't want someone that's just going to tell me everything to do because i don't know i have

01:17:50.700 my own opinions with everything so here's the the biblical idea the biblical picture of

01:17:58.620 dominance and submission this is a loving dominance okay the the example is christ if he's

01:18:03.500 ephesians chapter 5 you can go read it later um but it says that husbands should love their wives as

01:18:09.260 christ loved the church how did christ love the church he laid down his life for the church if

01:18:13.820 you're not you know dating or married to a man that is not willing to lay down his life for you

01:18:20.140 it's really not a man you should be with and and then obviously if you as you keep going it says that

01:18:26.060 the wife should submit to the husband you know the church doesn't submit to christ the i'm sorry christ

01:18:31.900 doesn't submit to the church the church submits to christ just as uh you know the husband wife

01:18:37.180 relationship relates to christ and the church the husband picturing christ the wife picturing the

01:18:43.580 church so yeah love is the key word there you know it's it's a it's a loving dominance and chase if i

01:18:51.180 recall i think you've said that you you don't in your relationship you don't want to be a tyrant

01:18:57.580 like you obviously want to be with an intelligent woman and you would want you'd be certainly open to

01:19:03.340 hearing what she has to say but i think and perhaps you can phrase it you know i don't want

01:19:08.300 to i mean it's it's it's it's like this bro like you know i look at it from the perspective of raising

01:19:14.460 a family right creating a family as a man for me to create a family and bring a family into this world

01:19:19.980 i am ultimately responsible for everything that happens to it right like i i am the the commander

01:19:25.820 the captain of the ship whatever happens to the ship that's on me right and i'm willing to take

01:19:30.380 that responsibility now with that said i want a good wife that i can partner with i don't want a

01:19:37.500 wife who's like stupid or who isn't going to have valuable input like obviously i'm going to disagree

01:19:43.260 with her on things there's no question about that but i want the kind of woman whose counsel i trust

01:19:48.780 and if our perspectives differ and we're married i will expect her even if she doesn't understand where

01:19:55.340 i'm coming from i will expect her to ultimately submit to what it is that i need her or the family

01:20:00.220 to do while trusting that it's in ultimately the best interests of the family like i don't want to

01:20:06.380 control her well i guess that that's where i differ like if you guys have opposing opinions like

01:20:13.820 that doesn't mean that all the time she needs to be submissive to you yeah i mean she's she's totally

01:20:19.020 allowed to disagree and because i love her i'm going to listen to what it is that she has to say

01:20:23.340 well what if like what she had was super intelligent blah blah and you guys are arguing

01:20:29.340 and she brought up like a really good point would you i mean if i'm if i'm wrong about something and

01:20:34.780 she brings up a good point and proves to me that i'm wrong like i would have the humility to be like

01:20:40.060 okay you got me on this one great job thank you for telling me that but that doesn't that lead to

01:20:44.620 your trust in her counsel it does it's exactly like that's why you would trust that she's the woman for

01:20:50.620 you because you would trust that that's why you're with her absolutely i have the ability

01:20:56.220 yeah so i have a i have a perfect example have you guys seen the movie 300 oh yeah yeah yes all right

01:21:02.300 so in the opening scenes of 300 king leonidas there's a messenger from the persian army that

01:21:08.220 comes to king leonidas right he comes to sparta and he basically tells the spartans he's like yo

01:21:14.060 you guys need to submit to us or we're going to kill all of you okay and so they're having this

01:21:20.300 conversation and king leonidas is there with his queen and as they're having this conversation

01:21:27.340 as they're having this conversation uh king leonidas realizes that he needs to kill this man

01:21:33.660 but before he kills this man he looks back at his wife because it's a massive decision to kill this man

01:21:40.060 if he kills this messenger from the persians the entire persian army of millions of men is going to

01:21:45.420 descend on sparta and and attempt to kill everyone it's a big decision so he looks back at his queen

01:21:51.340 for her counsel because he knows he needs to kill this guy and she just nods her head and like in

01:21:56.060 that moment he knows like okay like my wife has got me on this this is the right decision like and then

01:22:01.260 he you know he yells this is sparta and he kicks the dude into into the hole and then they kill everybody

01:22:05.900 like you want i feel like as a man yes i had him ready to go like as as a man like i want a woman

01:22:13.820 whose counsel i can trust you know like i want a woman who who is intelligent who can see things and

01:22:18.780 if if the thing is like with leadership you have to be humble you need humility because if you're a

01:22:25.420 leader and you're wrong about something you have to know that you're wrong you know like if i'm going

01:22:29.820 to lead my family in a certain direction and i'm accidentally going to lead them off a cliff

01:22:34.220 i want to know that i'm going to do that and if my wife tells me that and she can explain it to me

01:22:39.340 and she can help me see that like i'm gonna i'm gonna have the humility to be like oh yeah you're

01:22:42.620 right and i i want the kind of woman that can do that but if she's wrong about something and i know

01:22:47.820 damn well that she's wrong about it i'm going to expect her even if she doesn't agree with me i'm

01:22:51.740 going to expect her to listen to what it is that i have to say because she trusts that i have her best

01:22:57.180 interests at heart does that make sense yeah uh wait so caitlin here let me give a scenario um

01:23:05.260 let's say you've been dating a guy i'm dating a guy right for a couple months

01:23:12.220 and you're like hey what do you want to eat and he's like i don't know you just

01:23:16.460 whatever you want is that turn off or because i feel like i hear from a lot of women they want

01:23:22.220 like the guy who's decisive who's like i want mexican tonight i want hamburgers i want sushi

01:23:30.140 i mean if it was like all the time and i never got to pick where to eat and it was just always

01:23:34.940 what he wanted and like sure then i wouldn't like it but if he was like again 50 50 like half the time

01:23:42.860 oh like what do you want and then half the time he's telling me what he wants what are you getting

01:23:47.500 for dinner tonight oh i kind of want chick-fil-a okay can i add to that yeah so here's my issue

01:23:55.420 with it is if i say like okay i make the final decision we're having mexican tonight and then

01:24:01.340 it's awful or it's bad service or something then it comes back i hate when it the guy is then like

01:24:08.220 well we shouldn't have done that because it was a horrible idea or yeah it's still on him then speak

01:24:13.180 up because yeah it's still you didn't want to go for mexican then say something right but that's

01:24:19.020 what we're like he submitted to your decision but ultimately it was still his decision right

01:24:23.740 and then they turn around and they blame he can't blame you like what the heck it's his decision

01:24:28.860 right yeah so it's like it's like in uh the book of genesis after adam and eve eat the fruit

01:24:35.580 god god comes to them and he's like what have you done and adam goes it was the woman like she

01:24:40.140 she said we should do it right there you go same thing uh yo really quick nick can you pull up uh

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01:25:17.660 chats here we have oops let me get this triggered brian can i make just one point of clarification

01:25:22.460 yeah sure sure i just i want to say too to what we were saying i think it's good for a woman to want

01:25:28.700 a man who can lead who cares about what it is that she cares about right there's a distinction there

01:25:34.460 between a tyrant versus having a loving king boyfriend or husband right because if you're

01:25:39.580 with a good man he's going to care about what you care about that doesn't mean he's always going to

01:25:43.100 listen in terms of like yeah we're going to do that but a good man is going to at least care

01:25:48.620 right a man who doesn't really care about you that much he's going to be like no screw it you have to

01:25:52.860 say like i'm not listening there's a difference there would you say there's some type of a comparison

01:25:57.820 there almost to the way that like children need to submit to their parents right it's like i mean

01:26:02.300 sure sometimes you can have shitty parents and when you listen to them and they make all of the

01:26:06.140 decisions on your behalf that could lead to a terrible life if they're terrible parents but

01:26:10.220 if they're good parents and you trust in your judgment it's ultimately going to lead to the

01:26:14.700 best outcome for you i mean i guess like i grew up with pretty shitty parents right so maybe it's hard

01:26:20.620 so i was always independent and like on my own and like making my own decisions and for me it was kind

01:26:25.980 of like like i was kind of like the leader helper of the family i guess like even with my brothers

01:26:32.300 so i feel like i would have a really hard time if or like one putting my trust in a guy because i've

01:26:39.020 had a lot of guys hurt me but also being submissive to someone else like after me being like dominant

01:26:46.620 for myself all these years like i i just don't know if i could go fully submissive like i feel like for

01:26:52.620 me it always have to be 50 50. you know so i've met i've met and talked to a lot of girls that have

01:26:57.660 had daddy issues and who fundamentally find it hard to trust the judgment of a man yeah because

01:27:03.500 they were taught in life that the man that was supposed to love them most didn't love them and

01:27:08.860 didn't have their interests at heart i believe that if and when you choose to heal that and it'll take

01:27:15.180 time but like for you to heal that wound from your dad and to realize like he failed at his job

01:27:21.420 i believe that you would you would find it easier to trust a man i feel like i should also just keep my

01:27:27.020 independence because i feel like that's what makes me who i am and it makes me strong it makes me

01:27:32.300 successful with things in my life but do you feel like it's a little bit of an alma sometimes i mean

01:27:37.980 yeah i do put up an armor but do i want to like be making decisions for myself even if it's like

01:27:45.420 i have somebody else do i want to be the person like equal 50 50 and decisions yeah i never want

01:27:52.140 someone to take that from me there's this saying that like unknown heavens are like scarier to

01:27:58.620 people than known hells yeah and i think that oftentimes for people especially when they've

01:28:04.060 experienced childhood trauma especially stuff with their upbringing like that bleeds into your

01:28:09.500 adulthood so much oh it does that just because your armor has served you for this part of your life

01:28:16.380 like i would just encourage you to think that like maybe like what are you also giving up in

01:28:22.220 pursuit of keeping that armor on at the same time it's just something to consider if you find i'll

01:28:28.060 tell you this just to wrap this point if you find a really good guy who loves you and he's strong and

01:28:33.980 he's masculine and you can you can actually trust his judgment if you keep that armor up and you keep

01:28:40.620 like pushing away his loving leadership that is the kind of thing that can ultimately push away a

01:28:46.220 really good man well i'd say with 50 50 it wouldn't be like me pushing away his leadership it would be

01:28:52.460 like me welcoming it in but also him welcoming like welcoming mind like just our opinions like that's it

01:28:57.980 like not one person's a leader over the other kind of like you both are going together i don't know

01:29:03.500 i was just you may find a guy who wants exactly that i hope so either way it's not ideal uh it's

01:29:11.180 not right i would say uh i think i think going by our feelings is you know how we got this nation all

01:29:18.780 jacked up in the first place we need to start going off the word of god not just our feelings facts if

01:29:23.580 we make morals subjective or relative you could say to our own feelings and our own desires this destroys

01:29:32.620 any moral claim that you can make it makes your world view concerning morals totally absurd because

01:29:38.620 if you say okay morals are you know just what i feel is right okay now you've subjectivized morality

01:29:46.220 and now we have dudes in women's bathrooms and you can't object to that you can't say oh that's wrong

01:29:51.020 because you've already subjectivized morality he's just doing what's right in his own eyes you can't

01:29:54.460 look at a a rape or a mall shooting and say oh that's wrong no you've already subjectivized morality

01:30:00.140 he's just doing what's right in his own eyes but from the christian world view we start with god's

01:30:04.700 word and the objective standard of his word we say this is god's design this is right because he says

01:30:11.980 so and we start there instead of starting with our own feelings and our own reasoning i think honestly

01:30:17.660 it'll just take the right man we're submitting to and i think that's the biggest point here is like

01:30:21.580 for a man they want to confident a woman who they can lean on their counsel but for the woman they also

01:30:26.060 need a man who they can trust and default to their leadership too and i think that's what it's going

01:30:30.140 to take for you is meeting a man like that but i would just caution you to be a little bit worried

01:30:34.220 because that armor that you're wearing now could prevent you from ever meeting him it's very wise

01:30:39.180 what was that quote you said a second ago undiscovered known um hells are sometimes preferable

01:30:44.620 to unknown heavens genius life-changing who said that i'm actually not sure what the original source

01:30:51.420 is i'm not sure but someone said it to me years ago and it was really really well the way i've i've

01:30:56.140 also i'm pretty sure this is the same thing is the devil you know is better than the devil you don't

01:31:03.420 yeah but i don't know if that's basically like a shitty situation if you're i'm trying to think like

01:31:08.300 what's the context you know what you're getting yourself into you know what you're dealing with it's

01:31:14.220 like staying in an abusive relationship and being scared of breaking up and being single i'm not

01:31:19.500 saying that that's a it's a right thing but yeah that's what people said about trump like that was

01:31:24.460 a quote people used for trump like i'd rather have somebody like oh we know trump president because we

01:31:29.500 know what his actual thoughts are versus somebody who's like sure we don't know and then they have

01:31:36.300 some sketchy thoughts i'm so down to rumble um wait okay so where were we uh we were okay so i'm

01:31:47.340 trying to think of some more scenarios with the 50 50 thing um well do you are you selectively 50 50

01:31:55.100 though like for example when it comes to courtship uh do you ask guys out do you take initiative do you

01:32:01.420 go for the first kiss yeah yeah yeah you go for the first kiss go for the first kiss yes sometimes

01:32:07.340 well i mean why not if i like a guy no that's fine you said you're on birth control yes i wonder if

01:32:12.700 your preferences would change after coming off i mean i'm not on birth control and that's not happening

01:32:19.180 i mean i don't know but i usually sometimes when there's like a party and i like a guy go up to him

01:32:24.780 i got a question about the 50 50 thing you want to have kids i don't know yet you don't depends on

01:32:29.900 if i find the right guy okay say you found the right guy um then yeah yeah if i were financially

01:32:35.820 straight and straighten up if i were financially stable everything like was aligned to have kids

01:32:42.060 yeah i would want kids would you want to just continue working through your pregnancy and then

01:32:45.820 after having the kids or would you want him to provide for you i feel like i feel like it depends

01:32:51.740 if i have a really good job and i make more money financially than he does then i would want

01:32:58.140 to keep working yeah despite the stresses of pregnancy and motherhood yes i'm calling cap

01:33:04.460 we'll check back in 10 years yeah we'll put it on the calendar um what about you um so

01:33:14.940 if i could find somebody that i trusted who doesn't go to jail right yeah so if i found a really good guy

01:33:23.340 and i trusted him and he was intelligent and i would i would love to be able to to be submissive

01:33:28.940 i would like that with your last boyfriend is that the one that was in that went to prison

01:33:35.420 is that your last boyfriend no that was maybe a previous one were you submissive to him um i tried

01:33:41.980 to be and then he proved over and over again to be extremely more of like um no not that's the that's

01:33:49.820 the one that was in prison the last one i was with was the one that like had the job moved in

01:33:53.980 lost the job and then was going to do the travel job and then was just in my apartment all the time

01:33:58.700 um anyways he just he was not dominant at all i felt like i had to take on the dominant role and

01:34:08.220 that was kind of a little bit of a bummer to me i was looking forward to either being 50 50 or

01:34:14.140 getting to have somebody who was more of like a leader a real man so to speak yeah i guess yeah

01:34:21.580 how'd you oh go ahead go ahead would you say atlas that you have a pattern of picking the wrong guys

01:34:28.380 yes and that's why um i'm i've i've actually never even really dated so like i met that guy through a

01:34:35.660 friend and he was one of the first guys i've actually ever gone out on some dates with the prison

01:34:41.180 dude or the uh the last boyfriend yeah the any guy i've ever dated before i was friends with forever

01:34:47.100 before we started dating so i'm just taking a long break and i'm about to have so much school

01:34:53.580 there's no time to give anyone any time so i just don't get into anything really how many relationships

01:34:59.180 have you had um in my adult life that would be easier to count so like when i was younger like

01:35:06.540 a teenager i'd have like break up and get a different boyfriend doesn't matter in my adult

01:35:11.340 life i've had okay let's see probably like less than five how many of them were just like shitty

01:35:19.340 dudes like just like we got a dude in prison we got a guy that played video games all day actually

01:35:24.140 probably not even five but probably three or four well like three um there was one really good guy

01:35:29.660 there's one really good guy okay he was like military and became a nurse and i've know i've

01:35:36.940 noticed that some women just have a habit of picking like dudes that are absolutely terrible for them

01:35:42.620 and i've always wondered what drives that okay interject there i think that guys pick girls i think girls

01:35:50.540 that um are to have some type of motherly healers yeah healers or givers or more submissive or wounded

01:36:04.140 wounded guys predators pick up on that like you're wearing something on your forehead that's definitely

01:36:10.380 a thing and the predators just yeah you know the claws pick up on them and and they're just like eagles and they just pick up

01:36:16.780 and so i don't think it's the female's problem fault well i think both sexes should take accountability

01:36:22.300 for sure if we're all adults but um yeah i've noticed that they're definitely like i don't know if you have

01:36:28.460 any wounds but like wounded women will pick like the dudes that take advantage of them and then like

01:36:33.500 predatory dudes will definitely hone in on women that are wounded how do you think pimping happens you

01:36:38.060 know yeah there you go you know the predators these girls are out there on their own you know usually

01:36:42.860 teenagers the runaways and something wasn't going on good at home and then bam you know they're picked

01:36:48.300 up i wanted to say something to you because i love you amy so much that when you were a teenager

01:36:56.540 that was trafficking that is not child prostitution it was traffic okay we're moving on from that we're

01:37:04.140 not talking about that all right we try it we told you before the show like let's not it's one of the

01:37:09.500 things that can get us banned all right thank you um let's brian where do you want to take it

01:37:15.100 yeah so i'm trying to think here um take care of that super chat real quick if you want yeah i let's

01:37:21.820 okay i'll read the soup chat ovigada just fyi for the global audience catholicism christianity is based

01:37:27.260 on how europeans inter interpretate interpretate is that it's not a word interpret interpret the bible

01:37:34.140 which was written by israel israelites not europeans for the last 1800 years humanity has been fooled to

01:37:38.940 to think that this is their book and it's not uh okay can i address that real quick yeah take 20

01:37:45.260 seconds i don't know it's i think it's speaking i don't know where he's 20 seconds he's saying he's

01:37:53.260 saying that europeans manipulated the bible this is false ovigada the bible has been translated all

01:37:58.540 over the world in many different languages we have the original source text this is not just a european

01:38:04.460 thing you can find people in asia africa so on and so forth they've been they have uh translated the

01:38:10.620 bible from the original source text into their own languages and it still says the same thing

01:38:16.300 so there you have it folks all right we have uh gp many of the worst acts throughout human history

01:38:22.300 have happened over my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend some of the worst people

01:38:27.260 i've known go to church get a reset every sunday those who literally give the shirt off their back

01:38:33.020 don't do you guys have a oh yeah response to that um from gp i mean andrew if you want to go you know

01:38:40.780 there's a problem with church is the objection there's a problem with religion i guess you could

01:38:44.700 say that's what he's that's what he's objecting to every world view is religious religion is unavoidable

01:38:51.580 i don't care if you're a secular humanist i don't care if you're an atheist you're still religious and

01:38:56.140 what i mean by that is everybody has a faith commitment in some ultimate standard or some

01:39:02.300 standard that they place as ultimate so for the atheists or the secularists they place reason as

01:39:09.180 ultimate or their feelings or science whatever as ultimate but trust the science right how'd that work

01:39:18.860 out right that needs to be a shirt so the point is um religion is inescapable right and so everybody

01:39:31.980 has a faith commitment but the faith commitment and reason cannot justify knowledge it actually causes

01:39:38.780 experience to be absurd if you if you asked an atheist or secularist or you guys um how do you

01:39:46.220 know anything at all and i've talked to people about this on the street many times um well i know

01:39:51.500 things through reason i know things through experience well i would then say how do you know your reasoning

01:39:58.300 is reliable how do you know what you know and then they they have two options they could either say

01:40:03.980 well i know my reasoning is reliable because of science because of studies well that's a vicious

01:40:09.820 circular argument they're committing or they could then say well i don't know i don't know whether my

01:40:15.580 reasoning is reliable and they give up knowledge so this worldview this secular human worldview once

01:40:23.020 you give up knowledge once you can't justify knowledge you then everything you do after that

01:40:29.260 point makes no sense you're saying everything you do i mean you're assuming that you know things

01:40:35.100 when you drive your car when you go to work you have to assume the uniformity in nature and

01:40:41.180 and god's design in order to live life in order to make experience intelligible so i have a faith

01:40:47.260 commitment in the bible that makes all of experience intelligible so based and they make they have a

01:40:55.820 faith commitment and reason and experience through which they can know nothing at all what if you just

01:41:01.020 have a higher power like what if it's just not like classic god bible itself but what if you believe in a

01:41:08.700 higher power and you wager your decisions on whether a decision feels like it's going to bring you a

01:41:15.260 light energy and peace versus a heavy energy that's dark what about that like so one of the things that

01:41:23.180 the apostle paul wrote to the corinthians was that satan himself masquerades as an angel of light

01:41:30.700 but what if you do make pretty good decisions like you seem to be like a good i would i would say this

01:41:37.420 i would say this every different religion is making ultimate claims to truth and most of the

01:41:43.820 time claims about where your soul is going to go when you die right all of these different religions

01:41:51.900 lead to different places islam leads to one place they say you get there that way christianity leads

01:41:57.820 to one place they say you get there this way buddhism hinduism they're all leading to different places

01:42:02.860 and they're all making claims to truth the question is which one of them is right because

01:42:08.060 if christianity is true and you don't take the path that jesus lays out for us you're not going to go

01:42:14.380 to a place that you like you don't think i do need to move redirect things back okay we have to talk

01:42:20.060 for after the show bender the offender i have trouble with religion due to the fact that

01:42:23.580 the bane of brian's existence the religious talk um oh do we look we look kind of too dark here okay

01:42:33.500 whatever it's fine um and it's fine it's fine um i have trouble with religion due to the fact that

01:42:39.500 many of my family members died during my teens starting with my mother at age 10 i'd gone to eight

01:42:43.820 family funerals in the span of eight years my father has been for lack of a better word a bomb since 2008

01:42:50.140 okay bender the offender well thank you for good to see you back in the chat man um well what's uh

01:42:55.580 if you guys i can open this up to both of you guys if you can try to uh i can keep it brief keep

01:43:01.100 it brief so oftentimes people will say well how can there be a god because of xyz terrible things happen

01:43:10.940 to other people happen to me happen in the world how can you know we have cancer we have uh we have

01:43:17.340 disease we have um brain-eating amoebas so what how can all these terrible things exist

01:43:27.260 and also be like so i i think that's kind of what he's getting at so what's your answer to that you

01:43:31.900 want to take that yeah um there's multiple ways to answer that there's wrong ways to answer it um

01:43:39.180 so it's the problem of evil right how can god be good and allow so much evil to exist

01:43:44.140 you know and i get it it's extremely it's an emotional issue right all we all have trauma that

01:43:52.140 we go through and uh job certainly in the bible uh dealt with great loss and yet he kept his faith

01:43:59.980 in god so that one way to you know quote unquote rescue god from the problem of evil is say oh well

01:44:06.860 there's free will now that doesn't really solve the problem or answer the objection very well because

01:44:13.500 god is still sovereign over the free will of man so he still holds ultimate responsibility

01:44:21.580 the way i would answer it is first number one you can't make sense out of right and wrong unless

01:44:25.180 you start with the christian worldview unless you start with the objective standard of the word of

01:44:29.900 god i've kind of talked about that already if you don't start there you just subjectivize everything

01:44:35.260 and you lose knowledge and then the number two is you know god allows evil to take place and he is

01:44:42.300 not accountable to us to necessarily give us all the ins and outs and all the reasons why he allows

01:44:48.300 evil to take place there is certain reasons he says all things working together are working together

01:44:52.300 for good all things are working together for his glory he says that he's good i trust that he's

01:44:57.020 good two hundred dollars what does anybody know what this means is it world of warcraft no that's

01:45:08.700 definitely not world of warcraft related is it spanish i have no idea george is that it's all

01:45:13.900 latin i think it's a part of the bible i'm not correct me if i'm wrong but his name's or a pro

01:45:19.660 nobis that's okay

01:45:20.460 probably

01:45:21.500 anyways let's get back to it where you want to you want to wrap that up yeah um so number one you

01:45:29.180 can't make sense out of right and wrong unless you start with the christian worldview and then

01:45:33.020 number two um god is not accountable to us to necessarily give us all the reasons for why he

01:45:39.260 allows bad things to take place i trust that he has a good plan in mind job certainly did and he had

01:45:44.300 a much worse life than i did and uh so if god is good he must have a morally just reason for allowing

01:45:51.180 him to evil evil to take place but he's not accountable to us to give us every single reason

01:45:57.900 i'll take a quick stab at it brian unless you want to move on uh it's up to you man maybe like

01:46:03.900 20 seconds 20 seconds yeah i'll just say this the story of human history is a self-governance

01:46:09.660 experiment in the garden of eden adam and eve chose to reject what god wanted for them they ate the fruit

01:46:17.180 he promised them if you guys eat this fruit you will surely die since then mankind has been trying

01:46:23.020 to govern itself like andrew said god gives us free will people can use that free will for good or

01:46:29.260 for evil uh and people do evil with it and bad stuff happens in the world we live in a fallen world

01:46:34.300 to the guy who sent in that comment i uh i was raised christian for a period of time when i was a

01:46:39.900 lost my faith after my mom struggled with lyme disease and then took her own life from it um

01:46:46.380 i looked at that and i thought to myself how could a good god exist my mom had faith in god she prayed

01:46:51.100 for healing how could he let her go through this that killed my faith uh but god brought me back to

01:46:57.180 him and i i look at all this now and it's like dude the problem of evil it sucks man but because there's

01:47:02.540 brokenness in the world it doesn't mean that god is not good and we know actually that god is good

01:47:07.820 because when god comes down to earth when jesus christ reigns on this earth there will be no

01:47:12.940 more sorrow there will be no more death there will be no more tears and that's what we look forward to

01:47:17.020 man all right that's so heavy man if you want to have a good time come to the bunny ranch

01:47:23.900 okay okay okay okay okay okay um i'm gonna read this chat please guys if you're gonna super chat

01:47:31.340 we've been off of dating for 20 30 minutes now guys stick please can we respect please with the

01:47:37.820 super chats guys if there's more that come through look i i have no issues with uh religious talk but

01:47:44.780 you know it is a dating podcast i do want to be considerate of the other guests here uh so if any

01:47:49.980 other religious chats come through i might just i'm letting you guys know we might just skip over it

01:47:55.340 because it's kind of derailing the conversation guys so yeah all right uh i didn't mention

01:48:01.740 translations because we both know those were necessary my point is europeans interpretate

01:48:07.420 again okay buddy the bible differently than the israelites who actually wrote the bible thus

01:48:11.980 uh false interpretations equals false religion hijacking the book which was not yours okay there

01:48:17.820 you have it um all right i don't even know where we left off here let me do a chat that's kind of

01:48:22.780 kind of related we were talking about like submission all right lenny ladies and gents

01:48:26.620 red flag green flag the guy's only source of income is through betting his earning admits he

01:48:31.420 can't survive even a day in the wild and if you were dating him your dad doesn't think he's a man

01:48:35.580 love the pod by the way wait so is he is this a scenario is he talking about he's saying pig if

01:48:40.940 he's a red flag or a green flag is it a red flag or a green flag if your guy yeah he's a gambler

01:48:47.900 that's how he makes all of his income gambling red red red and he can't survive even a day in

01:48:54.780 the wild yeah there's an addiction like in nature and your dad doesn't think he is a man

01:49:00.700 i mean yeah just only specific okay okay okay let's add let's add one more detail he's extremely

01:49:07.340 successful at it makes like millions of dollars he's rich she's like wait hold on

01:49:16.060 when you when he gambles he wins all the time or just like not all the time sometimes he takes

01:49:21.420 huge losses but overall he's successful at it and he makes a ton of money but he can't survive

01:49:25.740 a day in the wild and your dad does not think he's a man your dad thinks he's a soy boy but he's rich

01:49:31.420 he can't survive a day in the wild red flag or green flag you go still red flag still red flag

01:49:41.100 red flag i like naked and afraid and alone red definitely red i want someone to protect me

01:49:49.900 red flag addiction but he's rich yeah okay okay um maybe green flag because if he keeps winning then

01:49:58.060 maybe it's not gambling i'm rich red flag okay all right there you have it um okay so some of you

01:50:06.060 were so kind as to provide some pre-show notes to us so uh starting with you wendy i saw on your

01:50:12.220 instagram you consider yourself a five-star what is a five-star pitch is it like a five-star hotel no

01:50:20.860 no not uh uh not that it's just like i don't know i just consider like i consider me i consider

01:50:28.220 me myself like pretty you know like um i don't know it just like just means like i'm just like

01:50:35.580 a five-star like my reign is just five-star like i'm just i'm just out of ten or out of five

01:50:40.460 i think she's a five it's a lot of five oh yeah just checking it's usually just five stars um uh

01:50:46.460 let's see you also wrote there's there's no real love out here anymore what do you mean where in your

01:50:54.300 messages to us you're like there's no love out here anymore yeah yeah okay okay i'm like i'm like oh

01:51:00.140 i thought i was like on my instagram i'm like no no no it was captioned i put that on in the messages you

01:51:04.860 sent us um so is that because of the habitual cheating ex-boyfriend um not that it's like i try

01:51:15.420 and just so many guys just give me icks like i don't know oh icks yeah uh what so many guys give

01:51:22.220 you icks so first off what is an ick like um sometimes like like a girl just wants to hang out

01:51:29.580 like have a friend you know just like talk to you know and then half the time no mostly all the time

01:51:36.700 they just like they just want to like fuck but if you say no to it like then they're just like they

01:51:43.340 don't want to be your friend yeah then they're no then they're all grouchy and stuff and like

01:51:47.740 or like they start driving fast or just a bunch of like those are like yeah that's yeah and that's just

01:51:55.100 happens more than it should wait so basically like you have guys who you think are your friends

01:52:02.700 or just like in general i just like i just tell them like i literally text i'm like yeah we could

01:52:07.020 hang out but like just saying out like i don't want to find nothing like i just like because i smoke

01:52:11.980 you know like i smoke weed so i'm like oh if i want to wait you did you guys smoke before the show

01:52:16.620 yeah i do i smoke she doesn't i didn't you sure yeah okay all right yeah okay so

01:52:26.060 these guys hang out wait so you so they usually attend saying oh like let's smoke like hang out

01:52:31.740 like that you know yeah they want to have sex with you like but no but i tell them before we hang out

01:52:37.580 like i don't you know like i don't want that and then when i hang out with them like they like push

01:52:42.860 themselves on me and i'm like no you know like i don't know if you have to tell them then you

01:52:49.020 should probably just like stay away if you're not down for that because i think you're very dangerous

01:52:53.500 i think you're around the wrong people i think this is what this is a perfect example of how men and

01:52:58.620 women can't really be friends yeah i feel like it's a perfect example of no offense female naivete

01:53:04.860 if dudes are asking you to smoke they probably want to hook up with you

01:53:07.580 yeah you know i'm right yeah but what if she just wants a free blunt oh is that what it is yeah

01:53:15.820 that's what it is are they are they providing the way that was some honesty right there um sometimes

01:53:22.220 like no what's it what's the term i usually say match it matching someone out so smoking someone

01:53:27.580 out or just matching it matching it usually like i don't know i don't think i don't know if it's a great

01:53:34.380 like so you meet you meet up with these guys just you you and the dude yeah she wants she wants to

01:53:41.420 get smoked out and then she acts surprised when they're like yo i want to hook up with you and then

01:53:46.140 they get mad what yeah yeah i'm gonna do drugs with guys i feel really she might want to be their

01:53:54.620 friend she might think the dude's funny like i don't have to open my legs just for like just because

01:54:00.220 like what i got no would you hang out with any of these guys if they weren't smoking you out no

01:54:05.340 yeah so let's put that hole she might just want to take advantage of you and you're taking advantage

01:54:11.260 of him is it just because you just want to be smoking though no sometimes i just get bored and

01:54:17.500 they just say like oh hang out i'm like sure but i'm not looking for anything like i don't want to do

01:54:22.060 anything you know and like why do like i have to force myself you know like i don't even know the dude

01:54:27.660 and they just tell me like oh like so so the the guys should 100 excuse me should 100 percent oh

01:54:33.660 my god i can't speak to 100 100 respect your boundaries however there are some dog type dudes

01:54:40.140 out there that like i mean a lot of guys will play they'll play like the friendship role even if you're

01:54:47.100 in a relationship and they're just waiting yeah when she gonna be single where's my like so i think

01:54:53.900 women can be friends with men it's not clear to me there's probably some men out there like can be

01:54:59.340 friends with women but like i think a lot of men for example um you it sounds like you have a male

01:55:06.380 friends right and you view them as just strictly yes strictly just friends you too i'm sure all of

01:55:12.460 you maybe have some male friends um i've probably the vast majority of them if given the opportunity if

01:55:19.180 you're like hey do you want to hook up they would be down they would hook up with you in fact we

01:55:23.260 could do a little test here you got your phone on you text one of your male friends right now and

01:55:27.980 be like hey we already know who to do it do it do it i have so many videos of like i've never seen i

01:55:34.540 go party with him all the time every time a girl comes up to him he just goes like that and like

01:55:39.420 i've never seen him talk to a girl or go up to a girl which is like oh you know no but he's not

01:55:44.460 like that but like either way until he's in a relationship yeah uh we can't call him i can't

01:55:50.460 call him because because he sucks at like texting we you'd have to text him just because california

01:55:56.060 wiretapping laws it's not trying to catch a felony here but um gotta love his coat

01:56:02.140 no one side consent uh no i think uh what are you what are you gonna text him oh oh should i just

01:56:10.780 be like be like oh hey hey what are you doing and then if he responds be like you want to hook up

01:56:17.580 and just see what he says i think that means like hang out isn't he do you want to i don't know it's

01:56:22.380 pretty netflix netflix and chill question mark yeah do you like you want to hook up with like a winky face

01:56:27.580 how about do you want to cuddle tonight do you want to hang you should be you should be forward

01:56:33.900 with it for the sake of the experiment what are you doing all right let him respond hey brian you

01:56:39.500 want to pull up that super chat in the meantime sure sure sure i'll read this one i'm really hot

01:56:45.260 and bothered guys city said please no more religious talk i like chase when he's not on his soapbox smart

01:56:50.220 slash nice guy just misdirecting his intellect towards fantasy stories shots fired come back more often

01:56:57.100 chase we've missed you just leave that stuff for jesse lee peterson's show great panel tonight

01:57:03.260 well i uh i don't want to hijack brian's show with the religious stuff but you will never get

01:57:07.740 me to back down from it uh but thank you for uh expressing that you missed me it's good to be back

01:57:13.260 with you guys and i think we're yeah we're all caught up on chats um so let us know has he responded

01:57:21.420 yet let us know what he says so you just asked hey what are you doing yeah if you want me to say

01:57:25.980 something i don't just wait wait till he no no no what what you should do this is what you should

01:57:31.740 do wait till he responds okay and then and then after he responds then be like yo like what are you

01:57:40.380 doing tonight want to hook up like just something like that because if you just come right off the

01:57:43.420 bat like if some random girl hit me up and was like yo want to hook up i'd be like what he's literally

01:57:47.740 the time to like laugh at your face no he will he'll laugh at me that's what he's gonna do

01:57:54.060 i think he won't take it seriously no he just doesn't want to he's gonna put like a thumbs down

01:57:59.500 emoji or something if you already know that like he's not gonna want to text text a guy he's a friend

01:58:05.100 he's my friend that wouldn't want to well we've had girls say this though and then they get proven

01:58:11.500 wrong like the guy's down yeah it could you should like what do you what do you guys think would

01:58:15.740 work does he have a girlfriend is he single okay that's okay okay maybe they say yes so it doesn't

01:58:22.460 like uh affect his masculinity what he's not gonna he's gonna just pass up a chance at

01:58:27.340 i don't think he'll just say yes just so he doesn't look like that literally once at a party i

01:58:32.380 could literally say a story from him like once we were at a party and a girl in our friend group like

01:58:37.420 this happened like one our friend group a girl that she literally went up to him like literally

01:58:41.580 all over him like trying to kiss him he's just going like this back and forth and he's like okay

01:58:46.700 like after five minutes of her trying to kiss him she's like okay um go get me like a drink from the

01:58:53.420 bar and then like we'll like go to the corner and like i'll give you a kiss you know and then she goes

01:58:59.500 gets him a drink and he just gets the drink and just walks into like walks away into the crowd and i

01:59:04.220 literally witnessed that and i was just like i was just laughing maybe he's not into girls

01:59:07.980 sigma move dude wait does he uh but like that was one specific example but does he like you see him

01:59:14.940 hooking up with girls he's a guy does he have a game or no like i'm like i don't think he's just

01:59:19.740 surviving he just vibes he just doesn't care yeah okay all right uh do you have a guy that you can text

01:59:26.300 to see if he would that was the guy oh we're both friends we're friends we're in the same

01:59:32.220 friend group so yeah are you guys trying to set up a threesome here or what no i just might seem

01:59:37.740 more realistic if she said something like that but just being like yo you want to have my phone

01:59:42.140 i feel like when you're younger okay so from a girl's perspective what do you think would be

01:59:45.100 better i feel like when you're younger like at the age that they're at they don't talk that direct

01:59:49.820 i feel like that's more like our age would be like that but like maybe if she made it into something

01:59:55.420 more funny but still giving the sign like hey i'm gonna be hanging out with so and so and we want

02:00:01.580 you to come over winky face maybe we could all do something fun haha you know i don't know that's

02:00:07.260 no that's that's like hanging that's hanging out this is just like hanging out see that sounds so bad

02:00:12.700 right like so no no not like bad but that's just like terrible no it's vague it's too vague what you

02:00:19.420 got to do is be like be like i'm i'm i'm uh not doing anything tonight do you want to come over

02:00:24.380 winky face yeah i think that's good i think that's decent i feel like he's not going to pick

02:00:28.380 up on that oh i feel like he's not going to pick up on that and he's just going to be like oh like

02:00:33.980 okay like what about you know we're just going to hang out and chill no winky face does anybody

02:00:38.700 that's pretty suggestive i mean it's old but it's like it's so pre-2020 isn't it

02:00:45.500 winky face question mark i don't know i'm too old okay here what we'll check in later on that

02:00:51.100 so you were talking about icks right and i think that's how we got onto this conversation what are

02:00:55.020 some other icks e-icks oh we just said chill and i think here's here's a better question actually

02:01:02.860 what's the worst ick you've ever gotten from a guy i think that would be interesting to hear from the

02:01:07.260 ladies we could do that and then also what's like the most kind of minor ick but that was a deal-breaker

02:01:15.660 like oh you didn't tie his shoes or had mismatching socks or something like ridiculous like that

02:01:22.620 like can you guys can any of you remember a time you got the ick like really bad from a guy

02:01:28.700 i mean yeah yeah i think all right what what was it what happened so we were going out with some

02:01:35.740 friends and i was waiting for them at the table and i realized that they were staring at me from a

02:01:40.620 far corner and just like giving me this vampire stare and i think they wanted me to come to them and

02:01:45.580 i thought that was just like really possessive and kind of gross so they were just looking just

02:01:49.820 extremely awkward well it was kind of weird because there was like two guys at the table

02:01:54.060 but i had three friends so they were kind of occupying the guys so i felt like maybe he was

02:01:58.220 uncomfortable um but like come and talk to me like i'm just sitting there like don't stare at me like

02:02:02.940 a serial killer yeah and i just like the guy came up like one of the guys on the table came up to me

02:02:08.060 and said i think that's your boyfriend staring at you and i turned around and it's just like

02:02:11.740 like slender man in the corner wait so you were dating this guy yeah kind of like just uh

02:02:17.820 yeah did you stop talking to him after that um yeah pretty much because i would be so curious to

02:02:25.020 hear the story from his perspective yeah i think he would feel like i figured out too

02:02:31.820 my ex he had um so i i invited him over but i was with my friends like he just wanted to hang out with me

02:02:39.740 like just wanted to and then i was at my friends he comes over but he's like oh but my cousin's coming

02:02:47.660 i'm like okay he could come too like i have my friends are just there like you know and then he

02:02:54.540 right when they like i thought like right when he got there like his cousin was just like all over one

02:03:00.700 of my friends and then my friends was like can you like um like i don't want to hook up i don't know what

02:03:06.620 you know like nothing like because he was like implying like let's go to a room you know and like

02:03:10.940 none of them knew him and then after like she said like oh like i don't know you like i don't even know

02:03:17.100 your name and then um he's like yeah and then he was like trying to like like hook up with her and he

02:03:25.260 just started like his nose started flaring up he was in the corner with his eyes all big staring at him

02:03:31.500 down literally like staring her down the whole time and then my my ex now but my boyfriend at the

02:03:38.380 time he literally looks at me he's like oh we have to leave early then and i'm just like that's

02:03:44.540 disgusting so but then the whole time they were just both just staring down on my friend like

02:03:51.260 mad dogs like they were just like mad the whole time oh that's pretty awkward okay

02:03:56.060 uh andrew what can a woman do to give you the ick yeah i've already mentioned that right

02:04:04.460 um all i'm looking for like what if you were talking to a christian girl okay and like what

02:04:09.260 could she do to make you be like oh man i'm really not interested in you you know uh when i've talked

02:04:15.820 to girls they made it pretty obvious so what makes it obvious if i'm if i approach to her i'm about to

02:04:21.900 ask her out and you know she's just not engaged in the conversation or looking away or whatever she

02:04:26.540 it's like okay i'm not gonna ask you out then you know oh that's about it andrew i got a question for

02:04:31.500 you uh do you want to get with a woman who is a virgin does she have to be a virgin well she doesn't

02:04:38.140 have to be but it's preferable yeah are you a virgin i am yes nice so would you date somebody or

02:04:47.420 proceed with somebody who is like like born again or has found it later like you know had a

02:04:56.300 proboscuous past no deal yeah i mean what about like she's been with like 50 dudes 100 yeah that's

02:05:04.860 enough okay straight up but she but but she's she's repented and she's found jesus yes still

02:05:11.500 still probably no bro it just it depends bro like i don't know i'd have to meet her you know

02:05:15.980 would you even have that conversation with her if she didn't give you any like red flags to think

02:05:20.540 that she had been with like sexual history would probably come up uh you know okay all right all

02:05:26.700 right let me let me so how many let me let me lay out and so do boys yeah let me lay out a uh scenario

02:05:34.620 for you you start talking to a chick she's awesome loves jesus super cool woman and uh you guys are a

02:05:42.140 few dates in and you're like you're really pumped like you you you're like yo i might have just found

02:05:47.980 my wife and then like a few weeks in she drops the bomb i've slept with 60 dudes but i'm but i'm but

02:05:56.700 no yeah i'm right there with you you know if i got a direct command of god if i got a direct

02:06:05.740 command from god like in the book of hosea then yeah i would do it but other than that there's no

02:06:11.180 way bro no way and real what what's chase you're uh you're you're not a virgin but you're

02:06:19.340 waiting until marriage now correct i'm uh continuing to do my best to maintain abstinence

02:06:27.660 was there a cryptic

02:06:31.980 i have uh i will say i will say i am not above temptation no chase yeah dude it's over it's over

02:06:41.660 it's so over it is over so to give people context bachelor days the last my understanding the last time

02:06:49.900 you were on or in previous shows you were on you had been celibate for two years two and a half

02:06:56.460 years three years three years no longer chase are you saying that you hold on you broke your

02:07:04.460 celibacy man chase i fell into temptation bro chase oh my goodness he was tempted

02:07:11.820 chase i'm how does andrew feel about mad i'm just disappointed yeah and did you repent you think

02:07:18.860 you think you're the only one bro i i knew i knew i would have to own this coming on today and i'm

02:07:24.300 humble enough to own it but yeah it's i'm disappointed too it sucks man so what's the process like now what's

02:07:29.740 the process like now um healthy communication continuing to uh do my best to maintain self

02:07:38.540 self-control and honor god with my body so i'm assuming this is you and your fiance i don't have

02:07:44.540 a fiance or you're oh sorry i thought that's what you said are you plugged into a church yes somewhat

02:07:49.660 not as much as i should be though and i'm telling you once you get plugged into a church you get some

02:07:53.500 accountability with men that are you know we're gonna help you out along the way so maybe some

02:07:58.620 responsibility yep yep i need that in my life did you dump her what did you dump her after you slept

02:08:03.980 with her no he's still with her he cheers is it the same girl all right this conversation's over

02:08:10.700 um okay wow i'm a little heartbroken i am heartbroken uh but okay all right moving on moving on i'm gonna get

02:08:19.820 i'm gonna get roasted in the chat oh no i'm gonna get roasted just don't forget to love yourself we all

02:08:25.580 uh stray from time to time okay all right um how did we get there ix i had somebody throw my purity ring

02:08:34.700 out a window oh is there an update did the guy respond okay yeah into the mic if you can

02:08:42.300 he said chilling at jacobs and i said i've kind of started to get a crush on you

02:08:47.820 would you ever want to hook up okay what did he say what did he did he respond no he hasn't opened

02:08:53.180 it no mike drop do you think he's watching the show though do you think he's watching no he doesn't

02:08:57.980 even they don't know we're here oh okay i don't know i feel like if somebody did that to me then

02:09:02.620 they were like just kidding i would like it would it would break you not like break me unless i really

02:09:08.460 really really really liked them but that might hurt my feelings okay uh well that's interesting so

02:09:16.540 uh wendy also in your messages to us you said and i quote guys literally

02:09:26.780 you're playing me on blast

02:09:29.980 guys literally aren't shit lol but yes topics about cheating um so guys aren't

02:09:38.460 shit guys literally aren't shit literally or figuratively it's confusing um so i don't want

02:09:45.260 to be too rude uh what when you say guys literally aren't shit or guys aren't shit what what do you

02:09:52.460 what do you mean they be fucking up are men fucking up is that what you're trying to yeah they be

02:09:57.580 fucking up yeah cheating they be what do they be literally like dogs like just like i don't know

02:10:04.940 okay interesting okay um yeah for my like what about like so okay there's obviously i don't think you

02:10:13.100 know what happened with the ex and the cheating that's certainly not uh acceptable in a relationship

02:10:19.020 what about just your encounters with single men when you've been single um are you encountering

02:10:25.980 when i'm single and they're single it's just like i don't care what you do it's just because

02:10:31.260 like we're not committed yet you know like that's what i think when i'm in a relationship i'm committed

02:10:34.860 to that person but when i'm single it's just like i'm not i know that they're going to do whatever

02:10:40.220 they're going to do and i don't have a say in it you know when does when does i'm sorry can i ask

02:10:46.060 her a question sure i just want to know like when you say like once you're committed does the

02:10:50.940 conversation occur like because i know like dating for your age and dating for like probably my age is

02:10:58.620 similar but very very different right so like do you say specifically we're in a committed

02:11:04.460 relationship now we are no longer seeing anyone else or is it just a vibe it's just like um we both

02:11:10.620 know you know like he wouldn't want me to be like going with him and then going with someone else like

02:11:16.460 when we're together you know or like um just in general me being in relationship and just like

02:11:23.580 texting other guys like i wouldn't want him to be doing that you know because for me when i actually

02:11:29.980 get in relationship i give him like like that's like my all but kind of because um i don't really be

02:11:39.420 like pushing forward relationship like i don't really like it's not it's not like i don't know it's

02:11:45.660 not really my type to like be in relationship and when once i am in one is like wow like you know

02:11:52.060 like okay i have a couple questions on this so you will not initiate the relationship conversation

02:11:59.100 you want the guy to initiate the conversation is that correct yeah but how many of you feel the same

02:12:07.260 way i don't care i guess i think it should be the woman who initiates that conversation but uh i think

02:12:14.460 it might like dating it or like a vibe older i think there's more of a vibe and then there's

02:12:20.220 a conversation like i think like you understand that there's a mutual understanding yeah when you're

02:12:26.780 dating in your 40s i think that's dangerous though it is and then i think you have to ask i asked in one

02:12:32.940 of the long-term dating i like i did do after my divorce and he was like of course and it was kind of

02:12:39.500 like i was stupid for asking but i wanted to make sure because i it was dangerous right like

02:12:46.140 that's how a lot of people i want to know that the dating apps are down and i want to know that

02:12:50.300 like the conversations prior to me are over does that make sense yeah that's why i asked her if there

02:12:55.660 was a conversation or a vibe i definitely think like if you there should be no questions i think there

02:13:00.460 ought to be and i mean this is if if you think that this is your boyfriend or girlfriend you should

02:13:06.460 certainly be capable of having the conversation about exclusivity i mean that's if you're sleeping

02:13:11.820 together you need to be well it's kind of important in a relationship to be able to communicate with

02:13:15.740 each other i do think that there should be an overt conversation about hey we're just seeing each

02:13:21.900 other we're exclusive because i think a lot of people can sometimes get confused uh or think they're

02:13:28.140 in a relationship when they're not and it could go both ways i mean but some girls think that they're

02:13:33.900 exclusive with a guy and he's like no like i'm still seeing other people like so i think it is

02:13:40.300 important to have that overt uh conversation um so and the other thing you were saying was

02:13:47.740 so what about you're talking about when well if we're not in a relationship yet he's gonna be with

02:13:51.660 other he might i don't care we're not exclusive fine he's gonna do his thing what about you are you

02:13:57.820 seeing other guys during this period like do you have a roster right now what's the sitch

02:14:04.620 you got a roster no i don't have a no it's just like for me um i don't know if it's just other

02:14:12.380 people but i don't i'm not really like a like a sexual person i'm not really like a dating person

02:14:18.220 i don't know like it's just always been like that my whole life you're not a sexual person or a dating

02:14:23.180 person so yeah like i don't really need to do it you know like like other people like i know

02:14:27.980 other people oh that's why he cheated on you then of course oh my god no like when i'm in a relationship

02:14:33.500 yeah like it's a different story like i'm talking like um like when i'm talking to people like i don't

02:14:39.100 need like like when i'm single like right you know it's not okay i i think not like i'm a hound

02:14:45.420 dog you know like i'm trying to like she has to go get it right you're not pressed to get laid okay

02:14:50.860 sure sure i can i see what you mean i thought you meant you were not sexual within a monogamous

02:14:55.580 relationship no like when i'm in a relationship it's good oh it's game over okay it's game over

02:15:01.740 but so uh right now you're single come on there's a guy there's some guy in the picture right

02:15:06.460 a little thing a little ting hey no i'm kidding um got a crush or i i have one one crush yeah but

02:15:19.740 say his name publicly no i'm just kidding no are you gonna make a move school i can't

02:15:24.780 no a lot of people watch it so you guys what's the extent of your guys's um if like i go to like

02:15:32.860 it's like because i go to party over here in iv yeah with my friends sometimes like mostly all

02:15:39.660 the time and then um i was gonna say sometimes but i know it was like or i go to rock fire just to

02:15:45.340 like just drink with my friends or like whatever and then like once he was i met him he's just like

02:15:50.460 a security i'm not gonna say from who but he's a security from part some party and um just one day

02:15:57.500 i was just really getting angry at my friends they were just all drunk i was the only one sober getting

02:16:01.740 care of living you can imagine just a group of people that were just drunk and then he just comes

02:16:09.020 and says like if you want so it's too late like so you don't have to get uber you could like come

02:16:15.100 to like miles you could like sleep on the couch like trying to be nice you know quote unquote trying

02:16:21.420 to be nice i know quote unquote and then yeah after that i just like i see him so did you end up

02:16:29.580 crashing on his couch or in his bed oh busted yeah how often how often do you see him um i would say

02:16:41.020 like about like once a week i think or two is this a sneaky link yeah type like he literally told me

02:16:49.020 that whenever like i don't want to go home or like i'm coming back from a party i could just like go to

02:16:55.420 his house like whenever i want so you spend the night or you dip after the deed is done oh i spend

02:17:02.380 the night okay all right have you heard back from dude no let me look no it's still sent i'm pretty

02:17:12.620 sure he's probably not gonna answer me huh okay maybe he knows you're on the show um what about you do you

02:17:18.940 have a roster right now what's into the microphone no comment come on let's give us the details that's

02:17:28.300 a yes uh uh i don't know the truth comes out what do you want so uh are you like seeing and is there

02:17:37.980 do you have a main piece and some side pieces you got one main what three main pieces yeah there's like

02:17:44.220 one guy i like more then the other 12 the other how many oh no no like there's like three like three

02:17:57.020 or definitely three like definitely three okay maybe definitely three maybe four is there a fourth one

02:18:04.060 in there no literally three and so are you going on dates with all three of them one one of the guys

02:18:12.460 yeah one of them but like we both know that it's not a relationship oh okay and what about the other

02:18:20.700 two what does one of them think it's a relationship no okay i wouldn't after being cheated on i'd never

02:18:25.740 cheat on someone else okay but um no the other guys are just guys like i'll like i talk to or like um

02:18:34.460 i see a party sometimes okay can i ask like what's the point i mean i don't know like one of the guys

02:18:44.140 like i like but um i just don't want to be in a relationship and then i don't see him like that

02:18:51.580 often because he doesn't live here and then um the other guys i don't know well enough yeah like i'm just

02:18:59.900 getting to know them i guess wait so you say you talk but like so are you hooking up with all three

02:19:06.620 of them no have you have you hooked up with all three of them just one of them and then the other

02:19:15.180 two you one of them i haven't at all and then one of them like not sex like just like

02:19:21.180 i've made out with them yeah like casually dating then yeah just saying that's okay yeah

02:19:30.060 good times good times okay all right yeah people people nowadays i guess have rosters um

02:19:37.820 she's got a roster that's not a roster that's not a roster no i think she's no well she's just saying

02:19:44.700 that she's like casually dating yeah she's not like sleeping with them like committing to one

02:19:49.900 i guess she's got these homies on rotation that's a roster my friend i feel like um

02:19:54.940 at that age as well i'm not saying like at that age or anything but it's kind of nice to learn how

02:19:59.740 to date and like how to ask what you want or see what you like erroneous um erroneous okay um but

02:20:07.580 as long as you're just not like cheating yeah uh like spreading yourself like that much like even

02:20:13.740 just sexually you're not looking for that do they know about each other they don't need to know about

02:20:19.340 each other like they said this is why we need patriarchy people that's it i think that's what

02:20:24.460 i'm understanding you're just like seeing if you okay no i know people that have like rosters on

02:20:29.740 dating apps they keep like a a spreadsheets a spreadsheet on dating apps yeah i don't know about

02:20:39.580 match.com i think it's uh i the whole thing with the roster i think it's uh

02:20:46.700 um it's pretty easy to date one person at a time you know it's not that hard it's not i i think that's

02:20:54.860 and if you want to find a relationship i think that's the probably the best way date one person

02:21:00.700 at a time but the question is do you want to find a relationship i do but i got so lost in my last

02:21:08.300 relationship that like uh this is just i have borderline personality disorder so i get something

02:21:15.260 called my favorite person so when i go into like that like everything like my mood everything

02:21:22.300 depends on how they feel and then it throws me off a lot so you're saying you have a two you got a two

02:21:28.460 yeah that's why two friends with borderline personality disorder is it wait what i don't

02:21:34.700 know it's not bipolar oh you're bipolar it's called um how to date somebody with like borderline

02:21:40.860 personality disorder and saying how it is so possible to have like a genuine yeah it's not

02:21:47.580 a productive relationship that's a tough that's a tough one yeah it's just like after being in a

02:21:53.020 relationship for some and i was diagnosed like halfway through my relationship so i didn't even

02:21:58.060 know at the beginning like what was happening what was going on and then once i was diagnosed

02:22:01.820 like i was able to work with it but coming from that like i need to be like by myself emotionally like

02:22:09.820 i don't feel like i can get connected enough to a person to where i can give like myself to them

02:22:14.700 without losing myself so that's kind of like why i'm like just getting to know people feeling

02:22:20.300 everything out like seeing stuff like that because if i were to be in a committed relationship

02:22:25.020 i would lose myself right now do you get really when you find a guy you you like you really like

02:22:31.740 him like you're almost obsessed or not really i mean i never really got oh sorry i never really

02:22:39.180 got with like the obsessive kind of thing it was more so just like in a way you could say that

02:22:45.660 like i was like he would be upset and then i would be upset he would be mad at me and i'd like

02:22:51.900 freak out like i would be like oh my gosh i don't know what to do well it would it would be like i

02:22:56.380 would actually like spiral like smack him around a little bit no like it wasn't like that like i would

02:23:02.860 get upset with myself for like making him upset or like he would cheat on me and then he would get

02:23:09.500 upset that i found out and then he would get really mad at me and then i would take his like feeling

02:23:15.660 um mad or upset and i would put that onto myself because like how dare you find out yeah it was

02:23:22.380 yeah so that makes sense on why she's so afraid of giving up the 50 50. yeah it does it makes so

02:23:27.820 much more sense now because she's afraid of losing herself entirely into somebody else so if she gives

02:23:34.220 that that extra 50 or even an extra 10 or 20 she could lose herself entirely i dated a girl who had

02:23:41.660 borderline personality disorder how'd that go you did it was turbulent it was turbulent um but

02:23:50.860 intense yes like intense yeah let's hear your love story now i want to hear about yours uh how did that

02:23:57.660 end putting me on it might have been manifested itself differently than you because for her it was like

02:24:02.860 obsession like and it for it was intense okay um like crazy obsession oh yeah he's saying like

02:24:11.340 watching you like when you're like sleeping to make sure you're sleeping not like a creepy thing but just

02:24:16.300 like really like because i think a lot of people play it kind of cool when it comes to dating you know

02:24:23.580 they're a little maybe they're a little laid off what's that yeah kind of aloof is a good word kind

02:24:30.780 of nonchalant when it comes to dating people aren't like up front super overt like oh my god i'm like

02:24:35.740 i really like like she came on strong super strong i don't know if that's called love bombing i don't

02:24:40.460 know if that's the term yeah we did do that a little yeah you did that a little bit oh yeah um so on one

02:24:47.580 hand it can be like kind of intoxicating in the sense of like whoa like damn she's into me it's

02:24:54.140 sweet right but also yeah and then it gets intense like then it's like arguments borderline personality

02:25:01.100 and narcissism usually co yeah and usually a bunch of guys that like see a girl that's like that they

02:25:07.420 like use it as like their advantage by saying like oh wow like she'll do anything for me i forgot what

02:25:14.380 that means bro what are you saying nick what is that hand signal oh okay okay sorry it's been a

02:25:23.500 minute since just just just like wide-angle us that means you have it's good i'll go ahead well okay so

02:25:29.500 have you seen meet the parents with robert de niro ben stiller so me and nick set up this this hand

02:25:38.700 gesture thing so the in meet the meet the parent or is it meet the fuckers you go like this and

02:25:46.060 it means you got to use the bathroom it's when they were teaching the baby teaching the baby

02:25:51.020 sign language yeah yeah yeah and so nick and then nick started doing it like three months

02:25:55.420 for the first time ever i was like what the are you doing okay all right um wait so you're bipolar

02:26:01.180 how does that manifest itself mood swings um like she said have you ever slashed a dude's tires what

02:26:08.380 are we talking here no like i'm talking about like um the same thing that she was saying like when he

02:26:14.700 will get angry i'll be angry or like my whole mood would just change okay or like i just well for me i be

02:26:22.860 like i become once i'm angry i stay angry like she's sitting there like i like once i'm angry like

02:26:30.460 that's it like i'm just angry for a while until i get out of it but it takes for me to like to get

02:26:35.580 out i don't know why it's just like it sounds like just like most women to be honest i was like that

02:26:39.260 when i was younger and as i grew older i know i think it it's true yeah i think it's part of being

02:26:44.860 young and not really knowing where you stand and not knowing what you're angry to do with that

02:26:49.180 yeah my pimp was borderline if i was what is what is borderline personality don't even bother because

02:26:59.420 until you like do something for me i disassociate um so like you have it too i do okay um i was

02:27:05.740 recently diagnosed with it actually this last summer so um for me i disassociate so especially when i first

02:27:12.060 started um in the adult industry i would um like almost like check out and to a different personality

02:27:19.100 and a different personality would then take on the adult role that i was doing and then

02:27:23.980 me like that's sitting here would have no recollection or no memory of what actually happened so i would

02:27:30.300 see it that's crazy or on like whatever and i'd be like i have no memory of that isn't that more of

02:27:37.020 just a trauma response yeah but if you're going through something traumatic different stages you

02:27:41.260 disassociate so you can so you can deal with the trauma yes yes yes how does that correlate to the

02:27:47.660 the bpd so i have different personalities that take over during sorry i have different personalities

02:27:53.740 that take over during those instances so i don't just disassociate in like but like i have other names

02:28:00.860 for different yeah okay so okay here's a couple here's a couple of symptoms traumatic situations

02:28:05.820 maybe yeah okay that makes sense um so fear of abandonment unstable relationships unclear or

02:28:10.700 shifting self-image impulsive self-destructive behaviors uh extreme emotional swings chronic feelings of

02:28:17.100 emptiness explosive anger yeah that's just a hug you guys um i want to say something and i really i

02:28:25.660 don't want to sound offensive but i honestly feel like a lot of those things you listed off for like

02:28:30.300 the product of the times like unfortunately and for sure there are uh you know checks and balances

02:28:36.940 that you can go through to be properly diagnosed but i also see a generation that are persistently

02:28:42.700 self-ideeing themselves with many things for mental health conditions trans stuff whatever it may be

02:28:49.100 and unfortunately i think that a lot of these underlying symptoms are just a product of the times and

02:28:53.340 unfortunately this world that we live in i mean i feel like you saying that does kind of suck

02:28:59.420 because it does kind of feel like invalidating because i went through all the steps to be

02:29:05.260 diagnosed i like in and out of mental hospitals like a very self-destructive behavior which i know

02:29:12.140 we can't talk about but yeah um so hearing you say that and like i do get it because a lot of people

02:29:17.820 do self-diagnose and they make it like a personality specifically right and that's why i said it's different

02:29:22.540 when you go through checks and balances like which is your story i'm talking more so specifically to

02:29:28.380 those list of symptoms that he read off and to somebody who actually has it i'm sure that manifests

02:29:33.260 in such terrible ways that i can't even begin to imagine but i think on a low level a lot of people

02:29:39.660 probably would read that and be like hey i'm that and we are seeing a huge incidence of people self-ideeing

02:29:44.380 in this day and age well i was watching one of your episodes recently and a girl was like um i

02:29:49.500 thought it was ironic she goes i have adhd really bad but i kind of made a joke out of it because

02:29:56.060 whoever has adhd just a little like nobody ever says like i have adhd just a little bit like it's

02:30:02.860 always so inflated and it's always so exaggerated and we are a generation like it is a generation of

02:30:09.660 kids with adhd and um autism and all of these these identifications and um it's it is like i think it

02:30:19.020 needs to be more diagnostic versus just a list of symptoms that we can google googleology like

02:30:25.820 i call it people's google md you know like you can google a sore throat and now all of a sudden

02:30:31.420 throat cancer like you know like it's it's just a it's a downward spiral of of so disaster

02:30:39.260 what is the solution to all these psychological conditions because you know the pharmaceutical

02:30:45.340 industry thinks it's just you know take some pills but i think this is a highly spiritual issue

02:30:52.060 we are spiritual beings and i think the consequences of sin i really think that's what's going on i think

02:31:00.620 you know whenever you disobey god you you're sexually immoral you sleep around a lot that has

02:31:06.380 spiritual ramifications upon your life and those spiritual ramifications have biological ramifications

02:31:11.660 so you get these chemical imbalances in your brain you get depression you get bipolar because of the

02:31:17.820 spiritual state that you're that you're in that's what i believe but christ christ can renew your mind

02:31:24.700 he can fix that amen if you simply bow the knee to him you know i'm not saying it's going to happen

02:31:29.980 instantly it's called sanctification it's it's growing in in christ growing to be more like him

02:31:37.660 you know it's a process but you know when jesus said he used the language of being born again that's

02:31:43.820 truly what happens you're you're a new creation old things pass away and all things become new it's

02:31:48.700 happened to me i believe he can testify the same thing it's happened to him you know i don't think the

02:31:53.820 same way that i used to i don't desire the same things that i used to desire it's because christ

02:31:59.340 lives in me i also personally don't struggle with the same things that i used to struggle 100 before

02:32:04.140 i knew jesus so can you share an example hold on one second hold on one second question for you do you

02:32:08.460 think that the trauma that you experienced as a girl with your dad and stuff might have contributed

02:32:12.380 to developing bpd oh yeah yeah okay so to go back to your question how we can fix this

02:32:17.980 jesus christ societal return to jesus christ and fixing the broken families which comes down to

02:32:26.860 men fixing themselves women fixing themselves pursuing jesus having awesome families where men

02:32:32.460 actually love their daughters and actually protect them and actually protect them that's that's my

02:32:38.780 opinion on how we fix this i think that's what it starts from what'd you say who sinned respectively

02:32:44.220 who sinned because her father did not fulfill what he needed to do as a father so how does she respond

02:32:51.340 to that because she needs empathy and compassion and love no turn to christ through jesus christ and

02:32:57.180 and and i'm talking about god's love yeah amen the ladies in our home many of them have different

02:33:03.580 issues and i've had my own personally and the love that was given to me by different people in my life

02:33:10.140 and of course the love centered on god and jesus has completely changed my life and my thinking and

02:33:16.220 when i got start spiraling because i understand what you ladies are saying i totally get it that's

02:33:22.860 actually me john john donated 200 dollars one common trait i've seen between most sex workers is they have

02:33:30.300 trauma fellas stay in your daughter's lives amen absolutely if you look statistically it's it's an

02:33:38.540 extremely high number of trauma based in the industry that we're in 100 but fathers keep their daughters

02:33:46.380 off the stripper pole and their sons out of prison go ahead by loving their children

02:33:51.900 and let's help yeah because i did do i did write a subject about like does like um this childhood trauma

02:34:06.620 affect like the way um we we become as an adult you know and um thousand percent and then it is like

02:34:16.060 the fault like it's a bunch of like it is mostly a lot is cases that i did was um

02:34:22.620 the father wasn't present and it was just the kid was not in the right environment and not being in

02:34:28.060 the right environment um chose them to like either be in jail or um like just just become like a stripper

02:34:39.100 you know it it has a massive massive impact on people you know the the way the way a person does or

02:34:45.900 doesn't receive love from their parent when they're a kid has a massive impact on their internalization

02:34:51.660 of self-worth whether or not they feel lovable self-image it's the reason why so many women who

02:34:57.420 have been abused as children end up in these industries there's no question about it i can

02:35:01.660 speak personally to it like we live in a society of people with daddy issues everybody's got daddy

02:35:09.420 issues a lot of people also have mommy issues i i am someone who had somewhat still struggles with

02:35:15.340 daddy issues like my my biological father has like completely ignored my existence

02:35:20.220 for my entire life and like for a long time to to continue this thread of how jesus heals these things

02:35:25.820 for a long time i internalize that as like i am not worthy of love like i am a human being who is not

02:35:32.380 worthy of love from the father and to continue the thread with what we've been saying about god like

02:35:37.260 the way we heal those wounds as people you know what andrew was saying with respect to healing your

02:35:43.180 your wounds your bipolar disorder so on and so forth like my healing that i did in relation to my dad

02:35:49.660 it was through finding the love of my heavenly father you know like knowing that my heaven my father in

02:35:54.780 heaven actually loves me unconditionally even though my biological father doesn't like that was huge for

02:36:00.380 me and diving into that and understanding that like healed everything for me you know self-esteem

02:36:06.460 comes from doing esteemable things and women can do esteemable things in and outside of the industry

02:36:15.020 i would disagree with that um i don't think there's anything esteemable about prostitution

02:36:20.940 to be honest with you um it's just the way god regards it it's an abomination to them but

02:36:25.740 um that doesn't mean you can't be an esteemable person though if you repent of it yeah if you

02:36:31.660 repent the call goes out to everybody the prostitutes the whores you know the people christ did not come

02:36:37.260 for good people there's nobody good he came for the jacked up people that's you and me so uh let me

02:36:43.660 just share a couple verses with you it's romans 12 1 and 2 paul's writing to the church at rome and he

02:36:49.260 says i urge you brethren by the mercies of god to present your bodies as a living sacrifice holy and

02:36:55.580 acceptable to god for this is your spiritual worship and he says do not be conformed to this

02:37:01.420 world that's everything we're talking about right all the problems the lust of the eyes the lust of

02:37:06.780 the flesh the pride of life do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of

02:37:11.820 your mind that by testing you may able you may you may be able to discern what is the will of god

02:37:17.740 it's beautiful for you to believe beautiful for you to believe thank you

02:37:26.460 not everybody said not everybody subscribes to that that teaching that bible that book

02:37:32.700 didn't you say people operate people operate outside of that book and they operate absolutely

02:37:37.020 and they're wrong they're no they're not wrong you know you're wrong for saying that other people are

02:37:41.180 wrong wait wait hold on why are you judging other people hold on hold on hold on that's self-righteous

02:37:47.100 and pompous and bigotry let me let me let me let me judge too one second one second one second one

02:37:52.700 second let me mediate here you said earlier in the conversation you love jesus correct i do yeah

02:37:57.820 jesus said if you love me you will keep my commands i love all people but hold on you said you

02:38:03.100 love jesus i don't judge people hold on though i love what jesus stands for okay what jesus stands

02:38:11.100 for is telling people to turn away from sin though well then i'm i'm incorrect you can

02:38:16.220 no i thought what jesus i thought what jesus stood for is that you you're all going to sin yes you're

02:38:23.660 going to sin you're going to make mistakes and i'm coming here to to shed like isn't it that he comes

02:38:31.580 here to shed his blood because we're all sinners so he makes the great sacrifice for us and that

02:38:37.180 doesn't mean that you get to sit here and be like oh well he did that so now i'm just going to be a

02:38:41.180 piece of shit but he's like no you're going to keep sinning in one way or another even if it's

02:38:46.460 like a little one or a big one probably until the day you die and that's why i came here for you

02:38:52.060 i thought that was his yes he did he did hold on he did give his life he shed his blood on the cross

02:38:58.940 to pay for our sins so that you know that it says in the bible that the wages of sin are death

02:39:05.180 right everybody who sins they deserve technically to go to hell in god's eyes christ gave his life so

02:39:11.340 that we he could pay the sacrifice for our sins and if we believe in him and repent of our sins and

02:39:16.620 have faith in his resurrection then we can go to heaven but to continue willingly sinning to choose to

02:39:23.100 sin is it's a rejection of his sacrifice it but the way i look at it it kind of like spits in his

02:39:28.620 face almost that is totally understandable my only concern is like with the utmost respect to you both

02:39:35.820 is like who are you to make that judgment if somebody's you know what i mean i'm not i'm not

02:39:41.900 worthy of judging anybody i'm like i'm not worthy of judging anyone you're doing it wrong you know but

02:39:46.940 like how do you know but can't on an individual level can't you say well maybe this isn't good

02:39:53.100 for you maybe this isn't good for society which on which aspect i'm sorry well you're

02:39:59.980 you so i just i just when she said so she had said something like um not everyone subscribes to the

02:40:06.620 book right we were talking about just like subscribes to the exact religion okay and he said well then

02:40:13.180 they're doing it wrong it's like what what if that person just has like a higher power they believe

02:40:19.820 in god but maybe they don't quite understand like the bible who are we to say that they're doing it

02:40:25.340 wrong maybe they're right on god's path well there's probably secular there's probably secular secular

02:40:30.460 arguments that you can make against sure prostitution too i'm not i'm not an evangelist so i don't have

02:40:37.740 those same beliefs as you do okay and i'm never gonna win so to final quick yeah yeah to to answer

02:40:44.060 your question who are we to judge hold on one second hold on one second to answer your question

02:40:48.220 who are we to judge andrew and i are not qualified to judge like i i will be the first to admit i'm not

02:40:53.260 qualified to judge another person because i'm not god i don't know like i'm grateful to have heard

02:40:58.460 your guys's life stories because it makes sense why you've gone down the path that you've gone down

02:41:03.420 like i can't judge that because i didn't go through it our only job is not to judge but to share what

02:41:09.100 the word of god says because the word of god leads people to heaven i want you guys to have heaven okay

02:41:14.940 so you're not saying like oh what you're thinking is wrong like you're just sharing that like that's

02:41:20.060 how it resonates with within with no what i'm saying is within god's eyes it's wrong sorry it's wrong

02:41:25.980 within god's eyes that's what we're saying okay there's a i'm gonna say can i say one thing go ahead

02:41:30.300 there's a fine line with this because if you guys remember in matthew 21 31 jesus told the

02:41:35.900 pharisee and tax collectors for what okay no no we're moving on we're moving on so i'm just

02:41:43.740 saying we can't judge people too we have to into the mic we can't hear you we can't hear you you

02:41:48.940 got to speak into the mic if you are going to speak you got to speak into the mic we we can't

02:41:53.340 judge people we have to bring what we believe we can't judge people in the right way are we

02:41:59.900 allowed we are we are called yeah we are talking about the way yeah the way that you spoke to

02:42:06.300 amy and i think they were you can you can tell that well because listen did you hear her background

02:42:12.460 yes but but just stop for a second i'm gonna get really upset right now because listen you guys do

02:42:18.780 not know how to speak to someone that's been in the sex industry with all due respect you don't

02:42:23.980 understand what these ladies we've offered you christ we'd offer you we've offered and when and

02:42:29.660 when you understand what that looks like to a woman what love looks like since they've been so hurt

02:42:37.500 and so bashed by men in their lives they she's not going to receive it do you see that she's

02:42:44.700 receiving what you're saying it's not up to me i'm getting upset because you don't understand her

02:42:50.380 no i don't god sees her heart she does love jesus for what she knows that may be let her let her figure

02:43:00.060 it out don't bash her with the bible we're trying to help her i think there's a miscommunication but i

02:43:06.380 told i think they've been pretty polite i mean yeah coming from and it's not just about you guys here

02:43:12.060 it's for this platform think about it they have a platform with like thousands of people watching

02:43:15.900 right now so it's not just for you guys but the influence and what that they want to impart on the

02:43:20.060 people who are here it's not just about like i understand what you're saying i do agree that

02:43:24.860 they've actually been pretty empathetic towards the whole situation um but i can totally also see how

02:43:30.300 it's very triggering and why that would cause a lot of intense emotions to come up but it's really

02:43:35.180 it's not just about you guys it's for the platform as well i encourage you to just keep doing what

02:43:40.700 you're doing because hopefully your word will make men stronger yes and make them stand up and be

02:43:47.980 the men that women need them to be and that will allow women to be submissive and to want to follow

02:43:58.300 does that make sense yeah does that make sense like so i'm in completely encouragement of what you're

02:44:03.820 spreading um and i i agree i think you've been very respectful and i just want to say thank you

02:44:09.660 too so much seriously for sharing your story it it's really crazy to think of everything that

02:44:16.220 you've been through the fact you're still sitting here right now and i what i would really just hope

02:44:19.740 more than anything is this goes out as some type of a message to maybe younger girls who are getting

02:44:24.460 into the sex work industry yes you have both been through so much and you are a product of the

02:44:28.780 circumstances that you've been through and you've tried to make the most of that and i have respect for

02:44:33.180 you for that reason but i just really hope that this can serve as an example for some of the younger

02:44:37.340 girls that like this isn't the road that you want to ultimately grow down i'm going to say one last

02:44:43.020 thing about it and then we can move on because i know brian's fed up with the religious talk look

02:44:48.220 andrew and i are in no way authorized to tell anybody who's going to heaven or hell because that's

02:44:53.580 not our judgment we can tell you what god says about that the thing jesus did with the woman at the

02:44:59.100 well he told her eternal life is in me go and sin no more all andrew and i are trying to do is say

02:45:05.980 eternal life is in christ go and sin no more that's it we're not qualified to judge your lives

02:45:10.540 well no one's asked me a single thing about me falling in love that's good okay for the first

02:45:15.100 time in my life fall in love with jesus you'll win on that one girl think about that you fall in love

02:45:20.140 with him you fall in love with him because he's perfect and they're not straight ask her dating

02:45:25.100 questions she's ready is what she's saying she's ready for the dating i don't even know what the

02:45:30.460 fuck is going on uh you're like underwhelmed good times good times good times all right

02:45:47.020 wait you're any right are you any someone left a chat for you too you did yeah okay we'll read that

02:45:56.860 one um wait isn't your organization called isn't it jesus for hookers hookers for jesus oh and it

02:46:06.380 means it's a fish hook it's a fish hookers for jesus yeah i would i would actually like to propose

02:46:13.340 since we're talking about this a couple other non-profit organization names um what about what

02:46:18.540 do you guys think about atheists for jesus that's a good one is that i like that one yeah let's see

02:46:24.140 we could be more like jesus for atheists that'd probably be better i actually do think there's

02:46:29.580 like an organization that's like they're atheist but they like jesus was so fucking dope that they

02:46:37.260 love the fairy tale of him they don't like have a uh a framework for believing in god but they're like

02:46:45.420 jesus's teachings were fucking lit yeah i'm sorry no no but they're like this is some it's yeah some

02:46:52.780 good shit yeah common sense it results in societal flourishing so okay you want to get

02:46:58.220 into the religious stuff dope in the same sentence all right let me do a couple chats here hi annie

02:47:03.340 god bless you appreciate you've been following forever hi chase question for the panel what is

02:47:07.420 a woman's purpose what are some things women should build in themselves before dating you know i think

02:47:14.140 i think before the men answer i'd love to hear the women answer it can you repeat it one more time

02:47:19.980 what is a woman's purpose yep and what are some things women should build in themselves before

02:47:24.220 dating okay so i'm working on let's start with you and then we'll go all the we'll try to have

02:47:28.940 everyone answer if you can be brief with your answers go ahead what is a woman's purpose start

02:47:33.260 with that i have no comment that's fine if if you just nothing comes to mind that's fine blank i don't

02:47:39.900 know blanked okay well people can have like their own individual purpose and then you can share a common

02:47:45.500 person purpose with like the greater of all women so i don't know it really just depends what your

02:47:51.660 personal purpose is and then me i'm trying to just like heal you know i'm trying to heal a lot of

02:47:58.780 stuff i'm trying to i'm going to school so i want to get into my career and heal and i'm doing a lot of

02:48:05.020 research on dating because i haven't really dated before so i'm trying to learn like what is dating

02:48:11.340 what's like the appropriate protocol i'm also not sleeping with anybody and just kind of like working

02:48:18.060 on myself so that's what i'm going to be doing before i start dating that's good i think a woman's

02:48:25.420 purpose is to have children and i think to be the nurturer in the household relationship if she can't

02:48:32.700 have children then be a um active aunt you know uh what have you in the family and then um to to

02:48:41.980 really be i think a good person in a relationship i think you have to know your own boundaries and

02:48:49.660 have firm boundaries and know where you stand on things um and just like she said heal like you have

02:48:56.620 to heal through or have somebody that's willing to work on healing with you and get through those

02:49:02.620 things together so those are any what about you i think a woman's purpose and it has changed by the

02:49:08.780 way i used to think a different thing but she is a man's helpmate and she is the queen of the household

02:49:14.700 he is the king and they lead the kingdom together and they both love god with all their heart amen

02:49:19.980 that's good amen amy what would you say to the second question what are some things women should

02:49:24.700 build in themselves before dating what does it say what are some things women should build well first of

02:49:31.500 all i mean there's many things but for me personally when i started dating oz i was celibate for four

02:49:37.020 years and it's because i was so broken in my relationships that i could not figure out how to

02:49:43.420 be attractive to a man besides my sexuality so i focused on my healing and when my healing came

02:49:49.900 that was so attractive to my husband it turned him on so much that i was such a strong woman that i knew

02:49:55.180 who i was in christ he fell for me like you can ask him yourself like very fast and didn't tell me

02:50:01.500 but i knew he was the one and he knew i was the one that's awesome he loved what i was doing too

02:50:06.220 he loved that i was helping women air force amy what would you say a woman's purpose is

02:50:11.180 to nurture guide lead support

02:50:24.860 love

02:50:28.220 love love love

02:50:31.900 um i believe women should be looking at guiding and nourishing their environment and creating

02:50:37.100 uh and for like the second question um understand like what diligence means and how to be like

02:50:46.140 too diligent to yourself and to others amy um wait what was the first part of the question what is

02:50:54.460 a woman's purpose a woman's purpose so i would agree with everything that everyone here has said so

02:50:59.020 far i think that when you go through things in your life you can use that to become your purpose

02:51:03.420 like god has done with your life and i think that's very beautiful but generally speaking um

02:51:08.060 i agree to be a wife supporter nurturer um you know if you're unable to have kids or um if that's not

02:51:15.580 the path that you go down still finding some way to be able to evoke those types of emotions in your life

02:51:21.580 and to what you would work on uh for me has been a lot of emotional intelligence and uh communication

02:51:28.060 skills as well has been massive solid as far as what a woman's purpose is i would say first and

02:51:34.860 foremost from a christian perspective of course to glorify god um god created women to be helpmates

02:51:40.460 to men uh to be supportive to them to partner with them like she said a queen to a man who is her king

02:51:47.180 um obviously also mothers as well um what are some things that women should build in in themselves

02:51:54.060 before dating you know i think something no women do or very few women do is they ask themselves

02:52:00.300 what would the kind of man that i want want in a woman i think that's a really really good question

02:52:06.940 for women to ask themselves and equally i think it's a good question for men to ask themselves what

02:52:11.180 would the kind of woman that i want want in a man uh before dating i think very few people ask themselves

02:52:17.820 that i think what what women should work on cultivating femininity this is something especially

02:52:22.940 a lot of working women like you know that they'll be like super in their masculine it's not super

02:52:27.580 attractive to guys when they're in their masculine cultivating femininity learning how to be soft

02:52:32.620 learning how to like you guys said be nurturing and caring um i you know of course want a woman who's

02:52:38.540 very godly who loves jesus with her whole heart who lives for him somebody who's going to be a really

02:52:43.420 good homemaker like those are the kind of things that i look for in a woman and a lot of guys do as well

02:52:47.980 you know like a lot of guys want a woman that's going to be a good wife and be a good mother and

02:52:51.980 understanding what that entails i think is important for women yeah before dating i mean

02:52:57.820 women are cultivators you uh bring home the dough they turn it into bread you buy a house they turn

02:53:03.820 it into a home yes and uh there's a there's another metaphor or picture of it's like the guy the husband

02:53:10.860 the man is the the one in the jungle chopping down all the all the forest with the machete and the the

02:53:18.140 woman's coming behind him and cultivating into a garden right that's the woman's job she takes a

02:53:23.980 little bit that you give her she turns it into something beautiful that's awesome and she works

02:53:29.020 best in the context of marriage yes and submission to one man and submission to one man is actually very

02:53:37.100 liberating because you don't have to go out into the world and submit to every man

02:53:41.260 so yeah but we do need like a lot of men to think like that because you know that's what we're here

02:53:48.540 for yeah and not a lot of them know that that's why it's hard for women to actually like sit down

02:53:55.260 with a guy because mostly men don't think like that they're all like oh like girls are just

02:54:02.140 bitches to come and go like that's how every man that i've came across or just like seen or my friends

02:54:09.100 talk about is that's the only man that's ever brought up i meet a lot of guys that seem like

02:54:14.380 they want to be the woman yeah like like they're the sassy ones in the relationship if anything like

02:54:22.780 all right we have another chat here bender the offender heard an wait brian you never answered it

02:54:26.620 yeah what's your answer bro my answer uh what is a woman's purpose gotta pump out seven sons let's go

02:54:36.140 yeah okay fighting for the throne yeah let's go dude um no i mean uh what is a woman's purpose

02:54:48.620 seven sons i guess that's pretty good what is a woman what what is a baby machine to brian i'm i'm

02:54:55.820 being guys okay before i get canceled i'm i'm being facetious here all right okay we have bender the

02:55:01.980 offender heard an interesting quote the other day women treat social media similarly to how men treat

02:55:06.780 porn what okay what do they mean by that yeah well i think because so i'm trying to think how to

02:55:16.620 properly articulate this so guys they're high from porn wait okay women treats so i think men derive

02:55:24.300 the dopamine hits the dopamine hits to the brain that you get from porn for men is equivalent to women

02:55:29.820 when they get that attention currency it's true yeah because i think women make sense care more

02:55:37.020 about getting attention but how many women in high school were asked to show a nude picture of

02:55:44.540 yourself to somebody no no no no yo yo yo okay stop stop stop stop stop we can't talk can you guys stop

02:55:49.580 it's gonna violate the terms of service like things that are adjacent to chill like i'm sorry i just think

02:55:56.140 it starts a lot earlier that's that's okay we just that's cool we need to not talk about it on youtube

02:56:01.180 because they can ban the channel anyways moving on you want to hit uh we got through both the super

02:56:07.900 chats yeah let me get it um we don't need to pathologize everything people all right lenny i appreciate all

02:56:15.820 the red flag votes now i need to clip it and send it to my future wife would love to be on the pod as

02:56:19.660 with my brother ig lenny lips uh hey lenny thank you very much appreciate it man um you got a dm i mean

02:56:26.860 would love to uh if you want you can try to shoot a dm to uh whatever but um yeah

02:56:36.620 yeah dude that's what we call a rejection yeah yeah okay um sorry going back to my notes um caitlin you

02:56:43.420 said and i don't know if you kind of already went over this you said you had a crazy ex of three years

02:56:48.620 broke up 10 plus times i think that's we we didn't hear from that yes so you broke up 10 plus times

02:56:54.460 so it was on again off again was it mostly him breaking up with you or you broke up with him

02:56:58.300 every time you you always broke up with him yes and then who would come back to who he would um create

02:57:05.580 fake accounts on social media he would call me from his his parents phone his sister's phone

02:57:13.020 his friend's phone his sister's emails um until i would like break and then like give him some

02:57:21.820 sort of attention until he could manipulate and like and then i would feel like okay like maybe he's

02:57:28.140 changed and then i was just dumb on that aspect you did that 10 times good time yeah damn yeah have you

02:57:35.180 learned from it yes yeah yes what have you learned well i learned not to take guys back that cheat on me

02:57:43.100 and then manipulate me and i think if i'm getting reached out first time one time through his sister's

02:57:48.940 email then that's not good yeah that's it although like i will say with with the girl i was dating who

02:57:56.220 had uh bpd i this is gonna sound fucking crazy but like when they're harassing you to that point

02:58:02.220 it's kind of like are you down huh are you down for what when a woman's harassing you that much no

02:58:09.020 no no no no no no not at all but it's kind of easier to get back with them than to continue

02:58:17.980 dealing with the harassment yeah they're so persistent it's like it's okay they're gonna stop

02:58:25.100 i know that sounds fucking crazy no it was wrong worst relationship it was 100 you're not wrong

02:58:32.220 you're well it i mean you you need to be steadfast in no this is over leave me the

02:58:39.900 fuck alone yeah but like i i do get like when they're just relentless like you block them because

02:58:46.220 for most people you block them that's that should be enough but some people will i with my girl she'd

02:58:52.380 call from other people's numbers yeah she'd go borrow some random dude's number from the street

02:58:56.540 who's this was it oh that would scare the out of me it's me they'd come by your place and

02:59:02.380 shit great rock was the best word i ever learned what was it gray rock no gray rock when you learned

02:59:07.740 a gray rock somebody that's like that that is neutralized like you just you're you do that

02:59:13.580 you're a gray rock you literally like you just give them nothing you give them nothing you blend into

02:59:19.100 the background you feed nothing because it's difficult and that's not just with borderline personality

02:59:23.980 disorder that's narcissism that's with so many other personality disorders but um yeah great

02:59:29.820 i once i realized that um somebody i was with was a narcissist i learned gray rocking because it's the

02:59:35.500 love bombing and that's part of the love bombing they're like we promise everything will be better

02:59:39.900 and then you're back together and it's the honeymoon for a little while and then you can almost like

02:59:43.740 set your stopwatch to the cycle so um but gray rocking was incredible you just lay back you block

02:59:51.500 number if an unknown number comes up you send it to voicemail you block all emails it's it sounds

02:59:57.740 there's so many people out there that are like that though like is that like a generational thing

03:00:03.180 like a generational issue right now is that a new thing that more people are kind of like that

03:00:07.660 my guy was almost i mean i think he's 16 years old when i am so there's people that are just

03:00:13.260 relentless and don't won't take no for an answer yeah uh let's see here uh you say it's rare to have

03:00:19.740 an actual genuine relationship and i think you said that's what you want right um but uh

03:00:27.900 i have to ask them you got back with him 10 plus times be honest there was there something exciting

03:00:36.060 about the drama for you oh yeah it definitely like fed into like the like well because there's

03:00:42.140 like so many up and downs like it's like the excitement is like so exciting and it's like so awesome

03:00:48.220 and it's so happy but then it's also because it's right next to something that's so bad so it looks

03:00:54.220 amazing you know what i mean i don't know so many women are addicted to the emotional roller coaster

03:00:59.180 man the worst now i'm not i heard this quote and it says you can do anything to or you can do anything

03:01:06.060 to a woman but bore her it's real uh don't take it don't take it no i'm not like obviously i'm just

03:01:15.180 saying like for me that's not what i'm saying there's a lot of things i could think of that i

03:01:20.540 just would not be interested anymore of course i think it's a generalization yeah

03:01:28.780 when you had all these problems did you ever confine in your mother for these things

03:01:32.060 like is that a uh my mom's like not a mom so no i went to my mom when my relationship was like

03:01:39.500 heading that way yeah and she's was she a milk though no okay nevermind nevermind and she told

03:01:45.900 me that i'm trying a little bit here she told you to do what sorry she told me i hadn't tried hard

03:01:50.460 enough oh and then i needed to stick with it i think we should move on past the trauma dumping

03:01:56.300 yeah she is uh wait she okay okay okay okay i'm cool i'm cool don't don't worry about don't worry

03:02:02.540 about okay uh steve cassio everyone reading should know that christians will not be married in the

03:02:06.620 afterlife the holy journey is an individual one and when you submit to a man you do so in christ's

03:02:10.780 command thoughts christ commanded that we must follow in truth and faith um my friend uh i you might not

03:02:19.580 if you're you might just be tuning in you might not caught it earlier i do want to try to keep

03:02:23.980 things more dating related um thank you for the soup chat thoughts uh 10 seconds from chase or and

03:02:34.700 andrew on this but 10 seconds sometimes i think to myself man it would suck to not be married to the

03:02:41.900 ftg that was terrible timing but thank you very much for the 50 so so i yeah thinking about that that

03:02:47.660 that is one of the things the bible says that we won't be married in heaven and i think to myself

03:02:51.820 man that kind of sucks because like what if you really really love your spouse and then you're

03:02:55.500 just like not married to them in heaven anymore and then i think to myself maybe god is being maybe

03:03:00.620 he's giving us grace with that because think about all the people that are in terrible marriages that

03:03:05.500 it would just suck to be in that marriage for eternity wait question so when you die literally

03:03:10.700 forever oh till death do us part that's that's what you say when you get remarried in heaven no

03:03:16.140 no you can't there's no marriage there's no marriage no it's so happy you don't need to be

03:03:19.980 married oh you just love god and you just have the best time ever can people have i don't think

03:03:26.940 there's sex in heaven there's no sex in heaven i don't believe so i think there's something better

03:03:33.820 i hope so dude it says that there's a there's a there's a river that runs through the new jerusalem

03:03:39.340 i'm trying to catch some waves on that thing let's go is it chocolate what the

03:03:43.180 fuck was this willy wonka stop all right okay okay uh were you gonna say something

03:03:51.900 yeah quick if you can heaven is not gonna be some just you know aqueous ambiguous thing it's

03:03:56.940 he's making all things new it's gonna be new heavens and new earth so it's gonna be lit

03:04:01.420 word word hope to see everybody there let's see here uh okay we had some notes here

03:04:09.980 um

03:04:13.340 sorry guys i'm just getting caught up on my things uh

03:04:17.340 oh my back alina wait who's alina oh okay it's trendalina okay you so you mentioned in your

03:04:27.100 pre-show thing why are men today so afraid to commit yes uh and i want to open this up to the

03:04:32.060 panel do you maybe just show of hands do you think men struggle with commitment yeah

03:04:38.700 show of hands literally all of the women saying yes do you think women struggle with commitment too

03:04:46.700 i don't struggle i know i look it's like this i got a lot of male friends women oftentimes look

03:04:54.300 to men hoping that they will want to commit i know a lot of dudes that are like yeah like i'm down to

03:04:59.980 hang out with her and have sex with her but like i don't really want anything more than that but women

03:05:03.980 see that and they're just like really hoping that that man is going to want to love them and hold on

03:05:08.460 to them forever a lot of dudes just like want to use women you know they want to change it women have

03:05:13.820 that eternal hope of changing and being that i can fix him i can fix him i can be the one that makes

03:05:21.900 him commit that's that's what that's what a woman's heart that's what a woman's heart like truly

03:05:26.860 desires is to be the one that like makes him want to want her forever yep you know but like a lot of

03:05:34.460 like what women oftentimes don't understand about men is like a lot of dudes like they'll find you

03:05:38.700 attractive they'll want to sleep with you for a bit keep you around as long as it's a fun time but

03:05:43.180 they don't really want anything more than that right you know and it's important for women to guard

03:05:46.380 their hearts from that that's women get very hurt by guys what'd you say that's what i do what i do

03:05:52.300 when i tell them like i don't want like i'm just trying to smoke nothing more yeah and i think

03:05:58.140 generally speaking like even like they're all high quality men out there for sure who would be down

03:06:03.340 for commitment but i think that a big problem that a lot of men have is when they look at the dating

03:06:08.220 climate like you know hypergamy is prevalent now more than ever promiscuity is more prevalent now more

03:06:13.500 than ever so i feel like for a guy sometimes they just really want to get to know a girl that it's

03:06:17.660 the right person before they dive into that commitment also a product of the times i do want to ask so

03:06:26.060 who here's been i mean i think everyone well maybe not air force amy who here's been in a long-term

03:06:31.580 relationship i think probably everybody right sorry i didn't mean to throw you under the bus there amy

03:06:37.180 well i get paid to stay as well as i get paid to go away okay that is one of the benefits i guess of

03:06:45.180 someone who procures your services um so uh of okay so not just when it comes to long-term relationships

03:06:55.020 but of all the times where you've had to end things with a guy or say i don't want to see you anymore

03:07:01.660 anymore so that could be from the first date all the way to you've been married for 20 years

03:07:09.020 um or you've been in a relationship for three months six months a year more often than not are you

03:07:15.500 the one ending things or is the guy the one ending things all the way from first date hey had a good

03:07:22.220 time i don't think it was a good fit all the way to babe been together for two years breaking up

03:07:28.380 yeah usually when i go on a date i that's when i hang out with you or when i go on a date with you

03:07:36.060 that's when like um i decide after the day if i want to continue talking to you or i i usually just

03:07:44.620 block them like when i'm not feeling like straight just like i don't like because i don't want to

03:07:49.740 like just tell them like rain down and a godly firestorm upon you you're telling me you will not

03:07:55.340 reject the guys vocally you'll if you don't like them you'll just block them and like they will

03:07:59.260 yeah like i don't even want to tell them like damn how many guys have you done this to mostly

03:08:04.060 every guy that i don't find like i don't want to talk to anymore so that's pretty brutal

03:08:10.860 that shit hurts oh it's just like have you considered just telling them hey like thanks for

03:08:15.740 the date honestly i'm not interested like when they're really like i've only had to do that like

03:08:19.900 twice because they were like really sweet or they're my friends you know like we were trying to

03:08:24.140 like can't block your friends yeah you know like a dude who from the jump he was romantically

03:08:30.140 interested maybe you hung out once but you just weren't feeling it that's the dude you're gonna

03:08:34.700 block yeah well yeah you just said you're not gonna block how many how many guys that you've smoked

03:08:41.020 with have you blocked oh she's hit up every yeah every how many how many dudes do you think you've

03:08:51.260 blocked have you seen my block list yeah wait let's see it we'll upload that block list while

03:08:56.860 she's answering caitlin do you want to answer his question wait what was the question again okay you

03:09:03.500 want to rephrase it okay so it's kind of complicated yeah because there's it's multifaceted so of all the

03:09:10.300 times that you've had to say i don't want to see you anymore or initiate a breakup obviously you're not

03:09:16.540 breaking up with somebody who you've gone on one date with but of all the times you've you've been

03:09:20.940 the one to say no when it comes to either just first date hey i i had a good time but i i don't

03:09:28.860 think uh i don't know what's a common thing what girls will say on the first date if they're not

03:09:32.940 feeling the guy i just want i don't think it was a good yeah i don't know what the fuck i just want

03:09:36.780 to be friends i'm not sure how often are you the one to turn the guys down all the way to you've also

03:09:43.340 a long-term relationship ending the long-term relationship um i mean i've ended every long

03:09:48.860 term or every time me and my ex would break up that was me um what about other situationships

03:09:56.300 flings i think i've pretty much been the one to end it i'm trying to think yeah i'm trying to think

03:10:02.300 of a time there's never been a guy who's like i don't want to keep seeing you i don't want to

03:10:08.060 like not really and not that i can think of no that's fine um do you have your block list yeah

03:10:12.940 but how many dudes are on it it's not my service is okay i mean it doesn't but i bet it's like more

03:10:20.700 than like a hundred more than a hundred uh but that's just like girls i don't like or just people

03:10:29.900 like i just like speaking of the mice yeah scoot into the table a little more i'd be like i'd block

03:10:34.780 like just girls or just like okay you know like hate but mostly but okay more often than not are you

03:10:40.940 saying hey i know first date all the way to long-term relationship okay what about you um

03:10:52.060 i don't even know i think a lot of the times it's probably me ending the relationship or and

03:10:59.900 for a second third date ending relationships um yeah just breaking up okay in general i would say

03:11:08.380 i'm either ending it or i make them like just not want to be yeah like i make them just crazy enough

03:11:14.300 where they don't want to come out in here yeah yep oh okay i gladly ended many relationships towards

03:11:23.820 before i met oz it was fun actually because i got them back because they were rude sure and the other

03:11:29.260 component of this question is also not just relationships but also let's say you go on the

03:11:33.980 first date with guy he asked for a second maybe you got two two dates three dates more often than than

03:11:39.980 not are you the one also in that instance saying hey i had a nice time but not not interested yes

03:11:46.620 i'm saying no before even going on to the date i'm just saying i'm not going on a date sure same

03:11:53.500 with you oh we uh got a little further than the first couple dates and these men were both telling

03:11:59.900 me that they were supposed to marry me that they said god told them okay i was supposed to marry them

03:12:04.780 and i said uh i'm not hearing that sure air force amy air force amy uh what about you the one

03:12:12.540 relationship i had i ended but like on a daily i deal with rejection daily you get emails and

03:12:20.300 why i was like daily all the day long okay um yeah i would agree with the girls i end it or i would

03:12:26.940 just kind of fade out if i didn't know how to like end it so both for long-term relationships like this

03:12:33.340 the one i'm in now is my second long-term relationship and like i would never end it

03:12:37.820 in my mind um so like casually dating then yeah just like at the end of the day it's like

03:12:43.740 we're not vibing are you okay with that okay amy what about you i've been in like four or five

03:12:48.780 long-term relationships i'd say it's about 50 50 50. yeah okay so the reason i'm asking this is

03:12:55.420 because you said that uh trendelina you said why are men today so afraid to commit well once we do commit

03:13:03.500 it it given all the answers you've provided women overwhelmingly end relationships and initiate

03:13:10.540 divorce so for a cohort of people who seem so adamant about commitment you sure like to end said

03:13:19.020 commitments at very disproportionate rates damn and men get absolutely destroyed in divorce

03:13:25.420 alimony court costs lawyers fees so i mean the question why should men commit if you guys are the

03:13:32.780 ones ending everything why are men today so afraid to commit maybe because women disproportionately end

03:13:39.340 relationships and initiate divorces i think most of the time women are gonna like end and like when

03:13:45.020 i've ended things it's because it doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere so if they kept it

03:13:53.820 a monogamous then you can have that conversation and move i think i think if there was infidelity that

03:13:59.980 is a perfectly just justifiable reason to end a marriage or a divorce um however it's not clear

03:14:07.340 to me if all the instances for all the girls here at the table when y'all didn't want to pursue

03:14:14.300 something or you ended a relationship i can't imagine in all instances it was due to infidelity or

03:14:20.460 some sort of abuse no mainly just like respect as well yeah like why would i go on a few more dates

03:14:28.620 with someone have them invest in me if i can feel already it's not worth it well that's to be fair

03:14:34.060 the panel did raise their hands for both men and women are afraid to commit if in fairness but i think in

03:14:40.620 general i it seemed more i think you know i want to i want to make just make one point yeah you you

03:14:59.660 want to get the commitment when you get the commitment you break it all of a sudden oh

03:15:06.140 oh i'm kind of bored i don't know i don't know if you like that i'm gonna be honest when you get

03:15:12.300 the commitment women overwhelmingly initiate divorce they overwhelmingly end relationships

03:15:18.140 all of you just we went around the table y'all said i would end it i would end the relationship

03:15:23.420 maybe sometimes hey the guy was a jerk maybe he was cheating on you but maybe there were times when

03:15:29.980 a better option came along hypergamum has that happened yeah yeah i got i don't think that's

03:15:36.620 what anyone has said but someone all right all right i gotta i gotta point to make to you guys

03:15:42.380 there's this question that's been floating around the table why are so many men afraid to commit

03:15:49.340 one of the answers that i have to that is because many women are willing to give up sex without

03:15:55.340 commitment most young women today are willing to have sex with men without any commitment

03:16:03.020 involved whatsoever and so if you give a man sex which is what he wants without any sort of a

03:16:08.860 commitment that subconsciously signals to those men you can have the thing that you want from me

03:16:14.860 without any commitment to me right that's a problem you guys put yourselves in a disadvantaged

03:16:20.460 situation by giving that up keep that in mind okay but if guys do want to do that then they're like

03:16:26.780 i'm i'll take the girl she's willing to give it to me anyways then they're willing to also take

03:16:33.500 whatever like disease or anything like that so like they're being just as dumb don't you think yeah

03:16:39.660 there's a lot of dumb dudes out there for sure yeah but they can't bear children right they're not

03:16:43.580 risking having a baby inside of them so it isn't that like feminism is great for promiscuous men they they

03:16:49.980 love it you know feminism has made business boom for promiscuous men um but ultimately when women

03:16:56.380 are promiscuous they're devaluing themselves you're saying my body is not valuable i it's it's for

03:17:03.900 everybody to see whenever you dress promiscuously or if you you know sell your body online you know

03:17:09.820 you're saying my body is a cheap commodity that you can get for free or for just a few bucks

03:17:15.660 according to you no it's it's like i am expensive i mean the thing is though is like it's it's basic

03:17:23.740 supply and demand you know if there's scarcity of something if you won't give your body up to any

03:17:27.900 man unless he's the right one like that's a very rare and valuable commodity if a woman will give it

03:17:33.900 up to anybody who wants it it like it it's it's like it's like a ferrari right not everybody can buy

03:17:39.100 a ferrari they're very expensive they're very valuable as a result people anybody can buy a bicycle

03:17:44.220 right it's much less valuable if if anybody can't come in any excuse me can you not be texting during

03:17:50.460 the podcast we just changed okay all right sorry does that make sense though like like it's it's

03:17:57.420 not an indictment of like you as a person but you like women who are willing to give men sex without

03:18:03.100 any commitment from them like they're decreasing the value of that but i do want a commitment of

03:18:08.380 financial i want a financial commitment and not everybody can get laid there's supply and demand

03:18:14.220 any any any thoughts on that hendrew so here we go what was that there that you need cash

03:18:29.180 she's saying it's not free you gotta pay for it yeah well yeah you you have to even in marriage

03:18:35.180 there's an exchange of money there like um but it actually costs a man way more to marry a woman than

03:18:42.700 to just hook up with a woman on the side right it's a lot more to get divorced too yeah so if you

03:18:47.500 if you're a woman and you save yourself for marriage and you're you don't dress promiscuously you don't

03:18:51.660 sell your pictures online you're treating your body as a high value commodity yes and you know um men

03:18:57.740 will treat a lot more for a man what what's what's the value of something the value is what someone's

03:19:03.180 willing to pay for it what are you willing to pay for this cup that's the value yeah the value you can also

03:19:09.100 assign that this is the thing you can also assign that value as a woman you can tell yourself and

03:19:14.220 other men i will not give you my body without any without a firm commitment right a woman who refuses

03:19:21.180 to have sex with men outside of marriage sex with her is going to be very valuable but if if a woman

03:19:27.420 is just willing to sleep with any guy who will give her attention her sex is much less valuable than

03:19:32.300 the woman who won't give it to a guy without commitment right so it goes back to the central

03:19:36.460 question why are so many men afraid to commit because you guys not you guys but just generally

03:19:42.140 well some of you guys but generally speaking most young women nowadays are willing to have sex with

03:19:47.820 men without any sort of a commitment involved and so you're giving the guy the thing that he wants

03:19:52.300 without you getting the thing in return that you want but don't you feel like you're undermining

03:19:56.700 men a little bit like because you're kind of making it out that men look at women as a commodity

03:20:01.660 say that again i'm sorry you feel like you might be undermining men a little bit like

03:20:05.340 saying you're giving it what they want men just want sex like they often that comes to their

03:20:09.820 primal con or nature like that is very natural within no they don't get a pass it's still wrong

03:20:16.540 it's wrong for men to it's it's wrong for men to run through but women are the gatekeepers of sex at

03:20:21.500 the end exactly this is just one second just make a great point just hold it one second glad to see

03:20:28.460 you back base chase you need to become a co-host we need you accept brian's offer women on the panel

03:20:36.700 what do you bring to a relationship and what do you think men want from you w chase and hash christ

03:20:42.540 is king in the chat let's go thank you we'll we'll pull this back up chase had the point we'll come

03:20:47.020 back to it yeah you you just delivered a great point which is that women are the gatekeepers of

03:20:52.700 sex you guys choose who you will have sex with you choose what men get sex men are the gatekeepers

03:21:01.820 of commitment so you guys get to choose who you're going to have sex with we choose who gets commitment

03:21:10.140 and if you don't give men sex you're not going to have to worry about dudes who won't commit

03:21:14.540 you're going to filter them out but the guy if you if you're giving men to sex outside of marriage

03:21:20.300 or a committed relationship all the guys that aren't interested and committed they're going to

03:21:23.980 take advantage of that does that make sense and value isn't just in monetary terms either like to

03:21:29.820 what you were saying as well like when we're talking about being a high value woman being a high value

03:21:34.060 man what's worth having doesn't come easy most of the time and that's just the fact with all things

03:21:38.140 in life like the sky is blue my hair is brown i didn't make it so it's just how the world works yes the most

03:21:42.940 valuable things the most valuable things are very difficult to attain if sex with a woman is very

03:21:48.780 difficult to attain that is going to make the right kind of man really want to get it by doing the

03:21:53.980 things he needs to do right christian women if they're reserving sex for marriage they're going

03:21:59.260 to weed out all of the guys that don't want to commit to them that just want to use them they're only

03:22:03.340 going to get the guys that really want them as a person you know it's good i had a ring on that said

03:22:10.860 true love weights and when i had my first date with oz i put it in his face and i said you see

03:22:14.940 this ring you ain't getting nothing for me until i see a ring there you go this is this is like like

03:22:21.500 that's how you get a good man i have them on i have so much i have so much empathy for this problem

03:22:26.620 that women have like wondering where where all the real men and the men who want to commit like it's

03:22:30.940 it's so many women struggle to find guys who actually want to commit to them but the thing is like

03:22:35.660 i wish all young women under today understood this because so many women get heartbroken over and over

03:22:40.700 by guys that just want to take advantage of them it's like if you as a woman made the commitment

03:22:46.860 to yourself i'm not going to have sex until marriage you're going to filter out every every

03:22:52.220 single guy that isn't right for you every single guy who doesn't truly love you for who you are

03:22:57.260 and want to keep you for the rest of your life every guy who doesn't fit that bill he's gone but

03:23:02.460 the one who really really loves you and wants to keep you for the rest of your life that's the one

03:23:07.420 who's going to stick around i just i just got to come in as a sinner here um i'm i'll commit to a

03:23:13.420 woman and we could we could have sex before marriage i'm just saying just saying i was wondering

03:23:20.060 a lot of guys will a lot of guys guys so those rotten guys they can come see me okay i i just i have a

03:23:26.460 a slight issue with what chase just said only because i was married under the guise of god right

03:23:35.660 and we lived a christian like lifestyle and it was still the wrong person yeah it does happen

03:23:45.020 like i think to throw it out there as a generalization i think is is insincere because

03:23:51.020 there are still the situations out there that uh we were in a committed relationship um he like i

03:23:59.340 mean for sexual reasons um i had other instances that had led to him not being my first but not

03:24:09.740 you're you're catching what i'm saying yeah um but he was by all intents and purposes my only and for a

03:24:15.980 very very very long time so i think that you saying that the right man will come to you when

03:24:21.900 you uh when you abandon all those other things i think can still be i think it's a great message

03:24:28.140 it's a fair point i see what you're saying a little bit of fairy i see i see i see i wouldn't say it's

03:24:31.900 fairy tale i see what you're saying what i would just say is it's not going to make you find it the

03:24:36.300 perfect guy but it's definitely going to filter out all of the wrong guys in my opinion you still need

03:24:41.980 christ right if you have christ to center your relationship you know uh it's not going to fall

03:24:46.860 apart both of you are in well we did and even clearly he didn't though he didn't and and even

03:24:53.660 his family like they've ousted me still to this day not because of what i do but because i divorced

03:24:59.980 their son regardless of his actions they know he cheated on you with 12 women and they um they

03:25:07.260 were the front pew of the church every sunday they're the one you know cooking for every potluck

03:25:13.660 you know taking taking it so i just like i i just still find fault in it and i i yeah i'm not

03:25:21.180 saying i'm not saying it's a perfect solution i'm just saying most women give sex away too easily to

03:25:26.300 men who have no interest in committing at all in the first place quick question uh in christianity

03:25:31.340 if there's infidelity is that that's grounds for divorce according to jesus okay thank you got

03:25:36.620 it um okay we have let me see here the one that came up before i'll get that really quick uh the

03:25:42.300 question for the panel is women on the panel what do you bring to a relationship and what do you think

03:25:47.260 men want from you that's good all right we'll start with you we'll go around go ahead i feel like we

03:25:53.260 should start from the other side this time you think yeah yeah they have to wait like an hour until

03:25:58.380 it gets to them okay okay sure we'll go around we'll try to go around quick i think just like honor and

03:26:03.020 respect is a huge one um i think very often times it's also what not to do as well i've spoken about

03:26:08.620 this extensively i think that women are very quick to disrespect their man um whether that is personally

03:26:15.020 or publicly uh you know disparaging him in any type of way i think honor and respect is the number one

03:26:21.260 thing for me that's what you bring to a relationship and you think that's what men want in a relationship

03:26:26.540 okay um i couldn't agree with you more because we're long distance we're always talking and like

03:26:31.580 listening to each other so he tells me like i make him feel respected he feels like supported and like

03:26:37.980 not judged so that's what i bring to a relationship if i had a relationship and it was um

03:26:46.300 monogamous it would be um god it would be fun i'll tell you what it would be exciting and um

03:27:01.820 i'm very very affectionate and very committal and loyal and um would you would you stop doing the kind

03:27:11.180 of work you're doing if you're in a relationship if i found the guy oh yeah 100 100 yeah her dms are

03:27:17.420 open right your dms are open can we yo can we get amy a date that's the problem that's why i'm on the

03:27:25.420 show is because i don't know how to date how would i go on a date with somebody and delineate between

03:27:33.020 an out date where someone spends money if he whips out his wallet it ain't like it ain't a date you know

03:27:41.180 you know it's like that's fine but but then i go through the bunny ranch and it's like i get paid

03:27:46.140 and then i can't see the guy outside again without paying them so i'm like totally just like wait you

03:27:51.500 pay you're paying for the dates no if i go if i if someone pays me and then it has to go through the

03:27:57.740 bunny ranch and then if they ever see me again it still has to go through the bunny ranch so you're

03:28:02.780 not meeting anyone outside of the bar i don't meet anyone outside the bunny i i'm going to give you

03:28:07.580 a 30-second breakdown on how to get you a man i don't know if it's going to be the ideal man

03:28:11.500 but we're going to get you man okay we need you i need you on tinder bumble hinge farmers only and

03:28:19.500 christian mingle farmers only that's the whole problem that's why i'm on here okay maybe not

03:28:23.660 christian mingle no here's i take that one back that's why i'm on here is because are you on no i'm on

03:28:28.460 some very expensive dating apps and guys that i'm very interested in you don't need that you don't

03:28:35.740 once i i have to like a matchmaker you got a matchmaker once i i'm interested in somebody

03:28:41.900 i would have to say what i do and then once they find out who i am and my name my real name is

03:28:46.620 totally interchangeable with air force amy so there's no way i can hide out hide who i am

03:28:51.660 and then it's going to be like like you guys like bash prostitutes and they're about the same

03:28:57.500 level as drug dealers so it'd be like oh oh yeah so i could just go ahead so i can just go

03:29:03.020 ahead so i can just go ahead and have sex with her because she's already a prostitute and it would

03:29:07.100 just be okay so who cares so i think you're gonna find someone so how could i ever i'm gonna give you

03:29:13.020 some game i'm gonna give you some game i'm gonna give you some game air force amy i got you

03:29:18.540 how could anyone ever be serious i got you i got you i am your new matchmaker now what's up with

03:29:23.500 your dad brian no how can i find anyone that's ever serious because they could be like oh that's

03:29:28.540 air force amy i'm gonna play this chick because she's already prostitute i'm gonna sleep with her

03:29:32.620 anyhow for say me i got you if i knew where my dad was air force amy i'd hook him up with you you

03:29:37.980 you mentioned like you said you mentioned the difference between like there's no way and plus

03:29:42.060 you guys have all said that i've slept with way too many people i'm totally unmarriageable that is

03:29:46.860 probably not so i mean it's just like a no deal i'm just like no that we never said that we never

03:29:50.620 said that everyone everyone can be redeemed in christ we never said we never said that well

03:29:55.740 definitely not marrying matt it means i'm over we'll never say never with over 60 people for sure

03:30:03.580 well i won't marry you come on man come on when i burnt myself on the cross come on

03:30:11.660 i will not do that do this because there you go brian you can do it it's all you're doing okay

03:30:20.700 absolutely impossible it's just this double-edged sword it's never gonna happen

03:30:26.380 listen and i would i believe in you air force amy i believe in you and i would be air force amy

03:30:34.540 i have been taking care of myself my entire life do you think i just don't want to hang up those

03:30:38.300 shoes and be like dude are you looking for a sugar baby by the way i'm rich dude i don't need a

03:30:43.660 sugar bit like you're the sugar mama oh no these guys come after me like crazy they're the sugar

03:30:48.860 babies they're like hot and you know they all want me so why not why not there you go maybe you gotta

03:30:54.540 get a sugar baby son i know i need someone with some intelligence dude oh intelligence someone needs

03:30:58.780 to take over the show brian's a sugar baby someone's gonna take over the show i've been running

03:31:03.020 are you looking to be a sugar mama because i'm always on the lookout for a sugar mama

03:31:06.780 i want someone to help run this show i've been doing it for way too long word okay brian you trying

03:31:12.620 to help run the show dog you know we just need to leave brian get down on one knee um what said brian

03:31:18.540 get down on one knee i think what you gotta do in the meantime brian brian brian brian and amy

03:31:25.580 come on brian step up to the plate dog be a man you should have a button that's like

03:31:30.220 scy-eye

03:31:42.140 listen amy we need to get you on would you ever date a guy would you date a guy who's overweight

03:31:49.420 who's obese well you know what ozempic okay ozempic does the trick nowadays stop it right now

03:31:55.900 what what do you think about men who read comic books where are you going with this bro i have no

03:32:06.780 fucking idea i don't know

03:32:12.780 hold on hold on serious serious point amy hold on hold on okay is your instagram tag uh did you give

03:32:19.020 it to brian it's in there they need to put an application all right all right fellas amy is

03:32:24.060 looking for a husband she's looking for a man that's ready to take over this show slide into

03:32:28.540 her dms slide into her dms okay there you have it i get that every day already oh so are you responding

03:32:34.780 you know what you got to do you know what you got to do amy filter

03:32:37.500 no sex until marriage then you'll see who's real and who's not yup there you go yup

03:32:47.420 then what do i do i get to keep working because i like sex

03:32:51.500 it depends on what the guy is looking for because he might not be down with that

03:32:55.820 do you find cucks attractive what cucks what do you find a cuck attractive but spell that c-u-c-k

03:33:04.380 he can't say it like he would like to watch her like bang dudes out or what yeah i guess like

03:33:09.740 her husband would like be like a boy while you're there are cucks out there there are a lot of them

03:33:15.100 out there maybe there's a lot of them out there's a lot of them out there a guy who is down to date

03:33:21.180 you and likes to watch you a guy that's weird take it no but a guy who is turned on by the fact

03:33:28.380 that you're no we used to have one like that oh my goodness yeah we had we had a husband i'm just

03:33:33.740 saying yeah given your we had a closet made for them in a little hole and he watched her work

03:33:38.780 you might have to marry you might have to you might have to get with the cuck you might have

03:33:43.100 to go to settle for that though she shouldn't have to settle for that well um she could prioritize

03:33:48.140 with the profession i would recommend if we're seriously talking about marriage not settling for

03:33:53.020 a cuck because that's not going to be a man that's going to take over the show or a man with

03:33:56.540 any self-respect no i think he's going to be like a matchmaker because it's just like

03:34:01.100 waiting for the win i would stay up all the apps and then prioritize because at the moment you said

03:34:07.340 that you want someone and then you said you want to keep working all right and then you said you

03:34:10.460 don't want these guys guys guys guys guys guys ladies ladies ladies all right this is a ridiculous

03:34:16.540 conversation if we do want to talk about it seriously for a moment if we want to talk about

03:34:20.460 it seriously for a moment here's what i would say retire period you said you said that you're rich i'm

03:34:25.020 going to take your word on that if you are serious about this i'm telling you no more working for a

03:34:30.860 little while see who dms you no sex until marriage because then you're not going to get any dudes that

03:34:36.460 are jerking your chain you'll know who's serious and who's not no working for a while either because

03:34:40.620 no dude who's seriously interested in you and wants to make you his wife is going to want you banging a

03:34:44.940 bunch of johns okay so if you can if you can stick that out for like one or two years i don't know how

03:34:50.140 expensive your lifestyle is so you got some nice jewelry maybe hold off on buying some more you know

03:34:54.780 stick out for one or two years you might be able to find a husband the only other option

03:34:59.420 besides that and i'll let you come in after this you are going to have to move to some small

03:35:05.820 fucking country in europe change your name change your identity and i don't even know if that'll work

03:35:10.620 uh you're gonna that i don't think i think that's it i think i kind of have a plan oh yeah what's your

03:35:17.180 plan what's your plan um i'm gonna uh write the book you're gonna write a book write a book sell the rights

03:35:22.780 sell the rights yeah and just sounds like a song yeah lifetime you probably you probably write a

03:35:28.300 crazy autobiography yeah that and i have some other um things i want to produce and like so write the

03:35:34.140 book sell it meet the guy and just like travel and and write and and do that is what i want to

03:35:40.540 pray hey hey pray for him yeah and your sword cookers let's pray for him here let's come back to the

03:35:46.140 original question what do you bring to a relationship so uh amy uh annie excuse me what do you um my

03:35:54.700 well my princessness and i serve my husband uh with my love and i i'm his helpmate and he had brain

03:36:03.740 cancer and i researched doctors and he submitted to me research researching the neurosurgeons so he is

03:36:09.740 alive today because of what i did for him wow you are an amazing wife what about you thank you

03:36:14.940 i bring communication um and i think that that's a huge missing link in today's societal and

03:36:21.100 relationships i think like you had said is as early as um stating that you're in a committed

03:36:27.100 relationship and you're not dating other people all the way to you know continuing keeping that line

03:36:32.860 of communication open is huge i think okay all right being able to open up sure um i bring authenticity

03:36:40.380 and i'm quite serving as well like often authenticity like i'm just myself all the time it's not gonna be

03:36:47.740 like oh you get to know me a little bit longer and then i'm a completely different person like i am

03:36:53.100 who i say i am um and i'm very loyal so funny not to brian but some might wait what nothing i was

03:37:07.180 saying not to brian but some might think i'm well when you think okay do i go here wait you can do

03:37:12.860 you have any plastic surgery yes yeah lip fillers yeah bbl what bbl no but thank you no but okay

03:37:23.820 lipo yes to put into the into the today's yes can you really be authentic you know what i mean

03:37:34.140 okay i see what you're saying you went there right that's understandable you know what i mean

03:37:38.460 understandable um but i was truthful about it you know so you asked me and i was like yeah absolutely

03:37:45.900 i did do that and so that is me at this point right perhaps in your well in your physical appearance

03:37:52.380 you're inauthentic in the sense of like are you all naturally yourself um well yeah i mean i answered

03:38:00.780 that i said i said no i kind of meant more authentic in personality like there's no smoke and mirrors i'll

03:38:08.700 be like true like like you're honest and upfront about who you are i'm true to myself um but yeah

03:38:14.140 i do like partake in some there's very few women who are truly authentic i mean we all color our hair

03:38:19.020 we all wax our eyebrows most girls wear makeup like there's degrees there's degrees of authenticity but

03:38:25.340 well because what i was ryan wants the armpit hair what the no no no whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

03:38:33.020 there's grooming and then there's bbls and like all that kind of crazy

03:38:39.180 shit what what i see on dating apps i'll see like a woman who's like oh i'm really about people who are

03:38:44.940 real and genuine and authentic and every single photo of them on the dating app full face of makeup

03:38:52.780 filter lip filler fake tits i'm like bruv bruv you are not authentic in your physical appearance

03:39:02.140 you are in fact you're kind of misrepresenting your physical appearance on the dating app and it's it's

03:39:06.780 pretty i think it's very inauthentic you could not just in your physical appearance but the fact that

03:39:11.580 you are misrepresenting because obviously for both men and women physical appearance is very important

03:39:17.260 physical attractiveness is very important i think probably most girls here would agree i think men

03:39:23.020 probably care a little bit more about physical appearance than women do i would say a lot more i think

03:39:27.980 women care about it quite a lot but i think probably men are pretty invested in it so when you're

03:39:32.220 misrepresenting on these dating apps oh big old fake titties lip fillers makeup face filters wait

03:39:39.660 are you there's not one photo of you that's like here's me without any makeup i think that's uh that's

03:39:47.820 akin to a man basically lying about his career oh i'm rich i'm a doctor i'm an attorney um don't you

03:39:55.900 think that like maybe like the guy would be like i want to get on a facetime with you get to know you a

03:39:59.980 little bit before we go out onto a date and then maybe face and makeup and they're using good

03:40:04.700 lighting and not like that's fair i think something for me personally um so i've uh something that i

03:40:12.300 struggle with because obviously i am a content creator and i'm on like tick tock and different

03:40:17.340 things like that and so when i came into the sphere as making that kind of content i was like struggling

03:40:23.740 with like why don't i look like all the other girls i'm seeing and so i fell into like those things

03:40:32.300 um and so it seems like it does help you make more money to do that but then something that i was able

03:40:38.780 to kind of like test out with my particular following um is a lot of them wanted me to start

03:40:44.540 going live a lot of them wanted me to go live on twitter and i was just really honest with them and i was

03:40:49.020 like look i feel awkward because there's always like a filter on and things like that and so like

03:40:54.940 i'm sitting here like being vulnerable and i'm not on a filter and blah blah and um i was just really

03:41:00.780 honest about it because i was like i feel like look one this way but now i'm representing like my true

03:41:05.660 self and people were really kind they were like we like you better this way like keep coming on twitter

03:41:11.740 like you know so i don't know if it really is necessarily it's kind of and this is exactly

03:41:18.620 you any kind of like answer to some of that or more information i'm not sure but this is exactly

03:41:24.300 why we ought to elevate women who are just moving in their natural beauty and don't feel like if we're

03:41:31.900 elevating fucking kim kardashian of course fucking a ton of young women who are impressionable are gonna

03:41:37.740 be like whoa i don't look like that okay let me go get a fucking bvl let me go get some fake tits

03:41:42.060 let me go get lip filler let me up my face let me go get bodged i don't think we should be i don't

03:41:47.500 know what are these 20 year olds gonna look like in 20 years with all this filler like it's going to

03:41:52.620 be insane can i say i think guys are a lot nicer about me so i look like really bad on this show

03:41:57.980 what you look amazing this studio is fantastic i'm curious to know your thoughts on something

03:42:06.860 brian and you guys as well so i i have a friend he met a girl on a dating app and she looked

03:42:12.700 incredible on the app like amazing she drove from fort lauderdale to miami to come down and meet with

03:42:18.700 him they met up in the apartment briefly for drinks before going out on the town and this girl looked

03:42:24.860 nothing like any of her pictures now i don't necessarily agree with how he handled it what he

03:42:30.700 did was he said okay let's go downstairs we're gonna go to the club they walked downstairs and he

03:42:34.700 said oh i left my phone in my apartment he went back upstairs and texted her and he said i'm sorry

03:42:41.260 like i'm just not about it like and honestly like you're i think that's okay be a little bit more

03:42:45.900 authentic with what you're marketing yeah i i think my man i mean i think probably curved shout out tim

03:42:54.860 i think i handled that okay i mean it perhaps he could have done it in a more respectful way

03:43:01.420 i know yeah you can do it in a respectful way but if you catfish the absolute hell out of somebody like

03:43:06.460 and then you and then you curve that person it's like whatever you know like i i don't know yeah

03:43:12.220 i'd be so mad if i got super catfished by a chick like that right yeah i mean i think i

03:43:16.620 worst i think i have a pretty good eyeball like a vision for when the girls are really filtered and

03:43:22.460 yeah but i think some men are not quite as attuned to like oh it's a filter no no because i couldn't

03:43:28.300 tell when i first started i was like oh my god why does everyone look absolutely perfect yeah it took

03:43:35.100 me a long time to figure it out so what do they think is gonna happen there when they like see the

03:43:39.580 person in real life well that's what it's just weird that's what is happening with a lot of like

03:43:45.020 instagram models is they put so many filters and so many different things on and then when people meet

03:43:51.100 them in real life they look nothing and i think that's really sad they have like those those um

03:43:57.100 those pages that out them and you see the ones yeah i just i just think it's gonna be really sad

03:44:02.300 when you're an old lady looking back at those pictures with your friends your family there's

03:44:06.060 selfies of you like you're gonna look back on them with regret for not embracing the beauty that you

03:44:09.980 have the beauty that you were yeah i know i look that's why i find me when i was 19 and i'm like

03:44:14.060 oh i was awful you look back at 19 now and you're like wow yeah dang i wish i could look like 19 again

03:44:19.900 like i feel like you're depriving your future self of those feelings and yeah so many so many

03:44:25.180 other things absolutely absolutely i used to facetune a lot of pictures and stuff like that

03:44:30.780 and i literally deleted like my instagram has very minimal pictures on it i deleted every single

03:44:35.500 facetune picture every picture that was edited um and well i get why women do it because like if it's

03:44:42.780 kind of like let's say you're a professional athlete and everybody else is on steroids and you're not

03:44:47.900 your career prospects are going to be minimized because you're not you know you're not doing the

03:44:54.940 status quo everyone else is doing you're not able to be competitive with the other athletes so i i mean

03:45:00.940 it makes sense to me why women do it because every other almost every other woman is blasted in full face

03:45:07.420 of makeup filters and like and it's hard it's makeup's not enough anymore yeah exactly yeah you have like

03:45:14.460 straight up ai like changing the structure of women's faces there was an a there's an ai on

03:45:20.620 instagram she has her entire like she's not even a real person and she has there's a lot of pages

03:45:26.220 like that she has like 500 000 followers and she's not even real you know what's crazy is like dudes

03:45:31.820 will figure out how to make women in ai and then they'll they'll like interact with the women other

03:45:37.100 dudes yeah they'll interact with the dudes no they'll interact with like like so like say like i was one of

03:45:41.660 these guys i like go on an ai create a profile for some like fake ai girl then a bunch of dudes

03:45:46.860 start following the girl and then they'll message the guy the guys that are following them and be

03:45:50.940 like oh hey baby all the ultimate catfish then then they will make nude photos of the woman through ai

03:45:57.580 open and only fans and then guys will buy that smart it's it's like it's it's evil but it's like an

03:46:05.100 insane no no they don't what no and the guys know that they're buying an ai only fans i mean it's like

03:46:11.100 usually like dumb dudes that are following these like women like if you if you really look at it you

03:46:16.460 can tell it's fake because she's imposed in italy and she's imposed in well you can tell because like

03:46:21.580 you'll look at the details on the body and you can tell and nobody's that you look at the hands yeah

03:46:26.380 yeah but but the the ai girls are like unbelievably beautiful in terms of like the symmetry of their

03:46:33.660 faces and stuff so guys will follow and be like oh my gosh and then they buy their only fans oh my

03:46:38.860 gosh it's a freaking crazy time ai chicks are coming for your jobs okay um yeah but i mean just

03:46:44.620 really quick when it comes to the plastic surgery stuff like i my personal position is let's say take

03:46:50.380 a girl who had an a cup or she was totally flat i would prefer that than her with big giant fake

03:46:57.900 titties you know or like her butt's not that big i prefer like what i prefer flat big giant fake titties

03:47:04.700 then like uh bbl or i'd even prefer a girl with a little if she got a little belly fat like when you

03:47:09.980 okay if you bend over like this you're gonna get a little scrunch you know what i'm saying like yeah

03:47:15.180 unless your body fat percentage is really low like if you're bending over or something you're gonna

03:47:20.140 get a little belly so i'd prefer a little belly than a girl who has the lipo belly

03:47:25.420 you know what i'm saying love that about you but but the numbers don't lie over the lip filler i've

03:47:32.060 been i was before i became an only fans creator i've only been doing only fans for less than a year but

03:47:37.020 i was a stripper for the last 11 years and um when i was smaller chested yes i made good money but after i got

03:47:46.380 the little work done or whatever my money went up every time i did something different every single

03:47:54.620 time okay i mean yeah so i mean i get it i guess but date you're you and far in between give me some

03:48:01.580 a cups over some giant fake titties that's all i'm saying also brian's talking about the context of

03:48:06.380 dating versus being in a strip club where they're like explicitly going there to get like turned on

03:48:10.860 right versus a guy who's looking to date that ideal kind of girl that makes sense i mean even okay but

03:48:16.460 even like if i'm thinking even sexually well i'm thinking yeah even sexually you're turned off by it

03:48:22.780 like even for like a one night stand or something yes yes i would i would prefer like a more natural

03:48:28.060 even if things she got okay itty bitty committee like you're all about it i am the

03:48:32.620 he's big labia matter yeah co-chair of the itty bitty titty committee whatever the

03:48:37.580 fuck it's called amazing you'd have three people what's that you have three three subscribers well

03:48:42.620 you know what's crazy if you look at if you look at um greek sculptures or ancient sculptures right of

03:48:49.100 women they don't have these giant fucking knockers they've got like what they got a cups or b cups

03:48:56.700 they're not like you know you know what i mean um so uh you know that's you know you know my problem

03:49:03.500 is with women who get a lot of work done i feel like i'm getting catfished as to what

03:49:08.380 my children's genetics sorry that's a very good point you asked them for pictures of themselves

03:49:16.780 before they got the work done i mean i can i can spot it for from like a mile away but like if

03:49:22.140 if i was with a chick and i found out she had a ton of work done i'd be like yo what are you looking

03:49:25.500 what's a ton yeah i mean women will like totally change what their faces look like you know and

03:49:30.460 then you have no idea what the original even looked like like some women will get like crazy nose jobs

03:49:34.620 where their nose will look totally different from what it looked like before and it's like i want to

03:49:38.540 know what that looked like before you know what are my kids gonna look like you know what i'm saying

03:49:42.780 do you work on the chin on the cheeks on the eyes the forehead

03:49:49.260 i don't know i don't know all i'm saying all i'm saying

03:49:53.260 i don't know it's a forehead lift i guess and i guess you can do it and the other thing with

03:49:59.180 plastic surgery look all of you have been very lovely tonight i know some of you have plastic

03:50:05.260 surgery i don't you want i don't disdain any of you for that you have plastic surgery or whatever

03:50:10.460 um i do think that women who have plastic surgery are probably more high maintenance

03:50:15.740 okay so breast implants most uh saline and silicone breast implants are approved or for the fda it's

03:50:29.900 10 to 20 years now sometimes they can last longer than that however in your lifetime if you have

03:50:34.220 breast implants you're probably looking at one two maybe three times having to uh have them replaced so

03:50:41.340 when i'm looking at a girl who's has a lot of work done or wants to get a lot of work done i'm thinking

03:50:45.900 okay i would much rather divert my financial resources to uh to my children in some sort of

03:50:53.740 utilitarian way instead of placating your insecurity okay that's totally fair every insecurity came from

03:51:00.620 her children from having children well look i mean oh like a mommy makeover that's something that i can

03:51:05.260 bring to a relationship i already have all my work done if my if my wife were my

03:51:19.260 motorcycle going by um me personally right if my wife had stretch marks on her belly after having

03:51:27.260 given birth um i'm still gonna love her uh but it's not about you loving her it's about her loving

03:51:36.620 herself i mean i would she came to you and was i feel like people should be able to love themselves

03:51:42.780 without getting cosmetic work done i agree with you i agree with you should but i would say inner healing

03:51:50.940 before exterior surgical cutting i would try to guide her away from plastic surgery not just for

03:51:59.500 financial reasons but also anytime you undergo anesthesia right there are certain risks involved

03:52:04.780 i'm sure i mean when you go and get your wisdom teeth pulled out they're gonna say hey you're getting

03:52:10.060 anesthesia here are the potential risks um i think it's probably very low but there's always a risk of

03:52:15.580 death whenever you go under anesthesia there's other sort of complications that can arise

03:52:20.780 there's certain health consequences so it's not just financial it's also just the potential

03:52:25.340 health risks for my partner um so so do you want to know like how i justify it to myself i don't i mean

03:52:32.460 it's it does it not matter i don't really care to be honest okay good for you i was just wondering

03:52:39.980 well okay really quick how do you how do you justify it it helps with your career it helps with your

03:52:44.620 business yeah that's pretty much what i was gonna say like if i wasn't in this industry i don't think

03:52:50.620 i would prioritize it as much but since i am and it makes me more money i i can use that as like

03:52:56.940 a justification good posture huh what what i was telling her i've heard uh i've heard women can have

03:53:03.580 autoimmune reactions from i did you did yes from my first set so i had first yeah this is my third third

03:53:10.460 and this is the only thing i've ever had done high maintenance uh vindicated i'm just kidding but

03:53:14.620 that's the only thing like i very low maintenance otherwise what very low what what happened so my

03:53:21.820 first set was 21 years old i became allergic to over 50 of foods like vegetables spinach um bananas

03:53:32.380 blueberries um i like was allergic to a bunch of medications so i had them taken out um in 21

03:53:40.620 um then i had a complete so and then all my 2021 yeah 2021 i had them taken out so they were 21 years

03:53:49.020 old at that point oh wow um i had breastfed four children with them and they were beautiful they were

03:53:54.140 still in great shape i just um i was really sick i had them taken out i had another set put in i'm able

03:54:00.540 to eat today everything i have i can eat peanut butter and jelly i can have bananas i have no reactions to

03:54:06.940 anything um during that time i had my first set i had a stomach ulcer perforate i had stomach ulcers

03:54:13.500 i had an autoimmune condition with it i had a stomach ulcer perforate and um they removed over

03:54:18.380 half of my stomach from it whoa holy smokes this is pretty much i mean almost making my argument though

03:54:25.740 but like what's amazing to me though despite the serious complications that you had with your first

03:54:31.340 implants i mean it would occur to me that the pragmatic thing to do is okay maybe

03:54:37.900 i'm not going to get any more fake titties you know what i mean no correct and they i

03:54:43.580 had that conversation with myself and then the fake titties were more worth it than your health then

03:54:49.660 well my second set actually i got better so it was well you didn't get better because of the second

03:54:55.180 set you got better no i get that i get that i got better because i got the first that taken out

03:55:00.540 i get that i get the magical healing fake titties yeah i got fake titties so i'm all better now no

03:55:05.900 that's not what i meant but then um i i had a complication with the second set where they

03:55:11.980 shifted so are you guys there was a complication with the second what do you what do you mean they

03:55:16.220 the third shift it what does that mean so this this implant capsular oh my god oh yes and then

03:55:24.780 shift it into my armpit so when i would like flex or do anything it would completely like if you did

03:55:31.580 a double bicep i would do anything like that it would shift did that just like drive you nuts it did

03:55:37.980 yeah it sounds painful it's very painful if that happens so i went to the best i did tons and tons of

03:55:44.700 research i went to the very very best and that's where i'm at now i don't intend to keep them

03:55:51.260 after i'm done working so that's where i'm at did you wait did you change did you did you change the

03:55:58.060 material yes when you got the second what was the material in the first one so i went with i had

03:56:02.220 silicone the first time and then what'd you go with and then i went with um saline and no other way

03:56:07.420 around i'm sorry i started with saline and i went to the gel um gummy bears because they're they're

03:56:12.620 they're they're like a gummy bear they feel more that's what i got and they have um they have a

03:56:17.740 less um risk of rupturing and the gummy bear yeah they're incredible i was gonna ask dude did you

03:56:24.700 say yours came from your belly fat how does that work so i actually have to gummy bear implants and

03:56:31.100 fat cancer to the breasts okay oh yeah just suck it out and just right because i've heard about

03:56:36.940 it with the bbls i didn't know if they did that for titties too you can yeah yeah okay

03:56:42.460 wild word word word uh what's that isn't there some quote or saying like what people will do for

03:56:50.060 beauty or i don't know what it is pain is beauty pain is beauty i guess all along though like my

03:56:54.860 grandmother had ribs taken out for to get it like a 25-inch day yeah yeah that's a yikes

03:57:09.420 for the women here who haven't had fake don't have fake titties have any of you considered getting

03:57:15.420 some fake titties no wendy it's never crossed your mind okay all right good

03:57:20.860 cross the mind i think small titties are in son all right andrew andrew you meet a fantastic christian

03:57:29.420 woman she's super based loves the lord she has fake boobs yes or no no problemo no problem

03:57:35.980 oh we found a leak

03:57:39.340 so if i had to do it again i would have not done it at all okay all right there you have it folks all

03:57:44.140 right we have let me just see if we have any chance here we have nope we have nope okay

03:57:50.380 i had the couple oh atlas so your boyfriend you move really fast you have his gamer tag tattooed

03:57:58.300 on you is that right yes i did do that can we no way you can't see it wait is this where is it

03:58:05.260 where is it it's below my butt cheek this is the guy you were with for just a month like on the leg

03:58:09.820 the on the quad wait wait wait you got a tattoo for with the guy that you were with for a month

03:58:14.140 yes i did do that atlas why did you do that i was in your corner were you in love

03:58:19.900 no okay listen how did he pitch it to you what's the story what's the story um no he didn't i was

03:58:29.180 being reckless okay i was being reckless and i was just doing something that i thought was really

03:58:34.780 spontaneous and fun and like almost like jumping out of an airplane and i knew honestly it didn't

03:58:40.540 work out i could easily get it removed it's just a little gamer tag it's not like a big

03:58:45.580 fucking portrait you know so who pitched it is it he did how did how did he pitch it how did he pitch

03:58:51.900 it um he just he just kept screwing around being like let's go get our names tattooed on each other

03:58:57.980 let's go get our names tattooed on each other such a red flag in the first i was like bet i'll do it

03:59:02.860 wait did he got he got your name tattooed no he didn't end up doing it oh he did not but you put his

03:59:08.940 gamer tag yeah yes yes i did and he's a really bad like twitch streamer so does he have a big

03:59:16.060 following no he has like 11 people following so and he texts me all the time and i am not answering

03:59:25.260 your text dude like stop so you haven't yet gotten rid of it not yet why not what is the gamer tag is it

03:59:32.460 like xx blood raven 420 blazes it's like f and f underscore oh wait loser

03:59:42.540 actually no but i didn't want to give him a shout out after i thought about it

03:59:48.700 i'm just kidding that's a little bit harsh but yeah so is it though is it though i mean a month

03:59:54.780 and he crashed on your couch just playing video games all day and he like kind of low-key talk

03:59:59.740 tell a shit about me on twitter for no reason like about how i didn't have a microwave like

04:00:05.100 like that's a bad thing staying at your house for free he has no room to talk honestly though

04:00:09.740 honestly if i was in this position and i was like a just a total bomb playing video games and some

04:00:16.460 chick didn't have a microwave i'd be like this chick bro you don't have a

04:00:21.180 microwave yeah we ate totally wrong with you we are the way he ate and the way i ate was completely

04:00:28.060 how dare you and that doesn't microwave atlas i have a toaster oven that's okay that's way better

04:00:34.300 i was trying to i actually yeah it makes it toastier you you actually owe him an apology

04:00:39.180 that was the that was the start of all your relationship conflict was you didn't have a

04:00:43.660 microwave the issue was he said that he doesn't like fast food and then moved in and ate fast food

04:00:49.660 every day you need to do some soul searching you need to look within and see about what you did

04:00:53.900 wrong in that relationship i didn't have a tv either you and so i got a tv because he's like

04:00:59.980 really insistent on the tv okay i'm kidding i'm just kidding guys okay um so that's ground

04:01:05.740 you got this tattoo of him um chase you're andrew you meet a girl she has a tattoo with her ex's

04:01:17.100 name on her if i was going to be dating it would be removed but i'm not dating is it the deal

04:01:21.740 breaker for you bro i wouldn't i wouldn't even consider moving the relationship forward it's

04:01:26.780 it's done tattoo of her ex ex name and it's like right below her butt too what do you mean you don't

04:01:33.260 know what her butt looks like what if it was gone yeah he wouldn't even know he can't see her butt so he

04:01:42.780 wouldn't know and if it came time for me to be honest with the guy it would have already been gone

04:01:47.900 like if i was going to be start seeing people i would get that taken off i'm just not doing that

04:01:53.900 right now so it hasn't been a priority but it's not a problem it's gone it's not a problem roger

04:01:58.780 that okay let's propose a hypothetical okay andrew you marry a girl oh man you go to do the deed on your

04:02:07.580 wedding night no right underneath her butt cheek you see scott's property tattooed underneath okay

04:02:14.540 that's a little extreme what do you what do you what do you do i don't know what i do but how much

04:02:21.580 would that definitely something to think about uh for me to tattoo that yeah yeah i mean if we're

04:02:26.620 already married throw a number you know it's a lot to just break it off just over a tattoo but well i

04:02:32.060 mean you wouldn't be able to break it off it's it's you're you're married you know i don't think

04:02:36.060 it's grounds for divorce yeah okay how do you approach that conversation it's like yo you get

04:02:41.740 it removed that's a that's a solution be like yes it's still not ideal i think definitely andrew

04:02:47.740 i need you every woman you're considering courting you gotta ask what the tattoo situation is

04:02:53.500 add it to your app you gotta ask your application yeah but so chase do you think that's that's kind

04:02:58.060 of like an alpha widow situation like okay she's got the ex's name tattooed on her it's like bro a

04:03:02.780 thousand a thousand percent he's gonna come back in the picture bro like how would you feel if you

04:03:07.500 met some great guy or great guy great girl and uh you like go to hook up with her and then you see

04:03:13.180 tate tattooed right there underneath her tits yes how would you feel fucking terrible yeah bro i feel

04:03:20.620 like he was fucking her at the same time yeah i mean dude like he was there in the room yeah i just like

04:03:27.340 like i could i i would be able to have zero tolerance for it man like as a man i'm so

04:03:31.260 territorial over my woman there's no way she could be branded by another man question on this related

04:03:36.220 to what chase just said and this is for those of you who are a little more you might want to just

04:03:41.020 plug your ears okay if someone was having sex with you doggy style what is the tattoo visible

04:03:50.940 absolutely oh that stings oh it stings oh it hurts it hurts that's the best way to see it if you

04:04:01.580 are going to see it it's a sign it doesn't matter it's a gamer tag it's a dude you can say whatever

04:04:06.540 a dude branded her no she's brand a dude branded branded but you don't know he doesn't know what

04:04:12.620 it doesn't matter well immediately you would ask it's not gonna be like oh what's this gamer tag

04:04:17.420 you're not gonna be like you're not gonna be like oh that's chill for there to be there there's

04:04:21.820 no story in the background no other tattoos i could see your argument but she has other tattoos so

04:04:27.020 is he gonna sit there and dissect her entire body okay if if hypothetically i i was hooking up with

04:04:33.500 the girl and i saw a gamer tag underneath her butt cheek immediately i'd be like yeah what is that

04:04:38.620 immediately and do you feel a kind of way about it like would you take it off oh my gosh it's coming

04:04:43.980 off yeah so then yeah we already know the answer then it's yeah and if i was at a place in my life

04:04:49.500 right now where i was down to like fuck someone it would be gone i would have it gone already how

04:04:54.700 how long ago was this relationship a year ago have you been with a guy biblically speaking

04:05:01.980 not even a kiss nothing no sex stop the cap i'm not capping come on atlas i swear to god i swear on my

04:05:11.900 family on everything i have not been with i haven't even don't use the lord's name sorry please

04:05:17.020 i haven't even kissed someone this girl who wanted to do a tick tock that it was like two best friends

04:05:24.940 in a room who might kiss and she pecked me and i was like girl i haven't kissed anyone in like a year

04:05:29.660 and she's like oh i feel special yeah i don't leave my house okay if i'm having sex with a girl and i

04:05:36.860 i dude i wouldn't even be able to get it up like if seeing another guy's brand there no way

04:05:44.460 i mean that all of that's fair you guys can ask for everyone i don't get i don't get offended easily

04:05:50.540 you guys are totally fine like you can i still don't think you don't know but if if you were

04:05:54.380 like no i'm not going to get it removed like there's that would be hilarious i can't remember

04:05:59.980 again then what if i if i if i know if i if if if if if i married a woman and i saw that she was

04:06:10.700 branded by another guy near her general region there's no way i'm able to get it up so until

04:06:15.100 it was removed even after that i'd be like dude i'll re-trigger it i know i know that about myself

04:06:22.060 i know that about myself okay low t is what it is no i'm just i'm territorial like no it's high

04:06:28.540 t i'm territory yeah it is i'm territorial yeah but she's a new creature in christ turned on by that

04:06:36.220 what if she's a new creature in christ if she's a new creature in christ why does she have her ex's

04:06:40.140 name tattooed on her butt that was pre-christ what was pre-christ that was pre-christ still if it's

04:06:46.220 there even even if it was removed but i found out about it it would still mess with me mentally

04:06:51.420 i'd be like why would you do that so then you might as well end it yeah i mean yeah i think you should

04:06:55.820 pray but like i'm saying i'm saying if that happened if i married a woman and that happened

04:06:59.340 like i just i have no idea how i would be able to process it i low-key wish i could remove all my

04:07:03.740 tattoos i would have none let's uh let's move away from the tattoo thing all right we have

04:07:10.780 one sec guys swordless donated two hundred dollars yeah thank you so much man good to see the chat

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04:07:45.260 we have this one from chase simmons chase i'm currently struggling with my beliefs in the lord

04:07:50.700 i get atheists telling me the lord is a sadist for allowing suffering and i come from a small town in

04:07:54.860 wisconsin where most girls aren't really christians so i struggle on the dating front if you can just

04:08:00.540 address it but if you can try to keep it brief uh i mean brother this is a problem many many men

04:08:07.500 and women are struggling with finding uh other equally yoked members of the opposite sex

04:08:13.180 go uh what what is the app that just came out i think it's called dating right no the court there's

04:08:20.380 the courtship app i think i think that's upward yeah there's upward there's the courtship out there's

04:08:27.340 uh uh sure i don't i don't know dude i'm not good with all the dating apps um i'm not the guy to ask

04:08:34.140 i'm sorry can i ask about the apps like what is up with the dating apps though because i did low-key

04:08:39.980 try to get on to some just to see like what was up with it and i don't know if it's just the area

04:08:45.340 i live in but it looked like a lot of the dudes were like just like no offense like druggies or

04:08:51.580 something where do you live should i say that actually what's the state washington i don't know

04:08:59.900 if i should say because i think a lot of the guys look like druggies i mean truth on the app yeah

04:09:04.220 i was like the whole state the whole what what apps are you on i tried so i um i think i tried

04:09:11.020 tinder and uh one other one that i forgot the name of there's bumble hinge yeah maybe like hinge or

04:09:17.260 something coffee meets bagel i don't know uh well honestly you're gonna you're gonna get a lot of

04:09:21.660 the lowest quality dudes on do you have to really like commit to it and go through before you find

04:09:26.780 something good so like i was like think think about the psychology of using a dating app like something

04:09:31.580 like tinder most of the dudes that are going on tinder just want to find a girl to hook up with

04:09:36.220 so if you're looking for like a serious guy if you're looking through that dating pool it's just

04:09:41.100 going to be dudes that want to hook up okay but i'm not even talking about just a sec hold on just a

04:09:45.100 sec every guy she hooks up goes home types in the gamertagons just

04:09:49.340 starts

04:09:57.020 so okay here i'll trigger it one more time uh oh wait it's actually gonna take a while to return

04:10:04.300 but that was good um so the guys you hook up with they see the gamertag they add the gamertag they go

04:10:09.980 play call of a duty together and now there's a whole friend group of all the men you've hooked up with

04:10:15.020 that's just like my squad or why that's no it's just like a bunch of dudes who are now friends

04:10:20.620 types in the gamertagons just starts playing caught together oh that would be cute for him i guess

04:10:27.980 then you go in there and i found you for life friends i don't know

04:10:31.660 word word good times good times um

04:10:36.460 what's trying to remember okay boom

04:10:40.220 then to the offenders of giga chat uh yeah i'm curious uh the dudes have been asking you ladies

04:10:45.260 questions all night long do you guys have any questions for the dudes um why why would a guy

04:10:51.900 not be interested in dating somebody who does the kind of work that we do if they okay let's say you

04:10:58.140 meet a girl and you do you genuinely like her her personality and then you find out that she does that and

04:11:04.940 then maybe she doesn't meet the stereotype that you've given that a girl to be in that kind of

04:11:10.220 career like would you still just call it off because of what she does or would you be interested into

04:11:16.700 like i have a second thought yeah yeah it's gonna it's gonna vary from guy to guy like i know that

04:11:23.340 there's definitely guys that wouldn't care that much uh there's some guys that actually push their

04:11:27.660 women into doing like online sex work and whatnot i can only speak for me personally like if i was

04:11:33.340 talking to a girl and i found out she did that it would be very i wouldn't be able to stomach it

04:11:38.540 because like i was telling her like i'm a very territorial man when it comes to my like i don't

04:11:43.820 want to share my woman with anyone you know like i don't i don't want guys knowing what her body looks

04:11:48.620 like in terms of like what she looks like underneath her clothes what she looks like naked anything like

04:11:52.700 that like i want that to be reserved for me and me alone and i want that to be a special thing

04:11:57.900 that we share with one another that's one aspect of the psychology the other aspect of it is

04:12:02.860 i don't want my kid's mother all i don't want her body all over the internet you know i don't want

04:12:08.220 my kids to have to potentially deal with that someday because i read stories about kids who

04:12:12.300 do get bullied at school for it and they end up killing themselves and it's it's just there's way

04:12:16.220 too many liabilities there for me personally to deal with does that make sense yeah yeah yeah i mean

04:12:22.620 i also have a question for you guys hold on yeah it's just oh sorry it's just not right um she's gonna be

04:12:28.540 pulling me in the other direction i'm trying to serve christ i'm trying to serve god and she's

04:12:33.180 running the complete opposite direction he brought up the equally yoked phrase earlier he's talking

04:12:38.220 about that yoked he's talking about a yoke you know how uh oxens are yoked together with this bar that

04:12:44.060 goes across her neck well unequally yoked would be two separate animals barred together it just doesn't

04:12:49.820 make sense to plow grain with two separate animals that's what it's like uh being a believer with an

04:12:54.700 unbeliever it's two separate species essentially just does not make sense for me as a believer to

04:13:01.820 be with an unbeliever yeah to bring it back to how i answered your question too does does my

04:13:06.540 explanation about the territorialness and not wanting to share a woman makes sense absolutely

04:13:10.860 do you feel like that's fair and justified i think that's fair i think

04:13:16.940 sounds like somebody's hit a car yeah people drive by and try to make noises because they know the show

04:13:21.740 is going on no way yeah happens all the time people will wait for the show to start and then they'll

04:13:26.700 like rev their engine down below that's hella funny but so that makes sense to you no it totally makes

04:13:32.700 sense and that's why i kind of just wrote off that i would even find somebody that and be in anything

04:13:39.500 serious until i was done doing it and not because i think that that's necessarily right i've just

04:13:45.660 accepted just accepted that i think you i mean you might find a guy who has tolerance for it i don't know

04:13:53.180 i have a lot of um fans or i guess that say that they would like to date me knowing what i do but then

04:14:02.380 once they're with me would want me to quit and i think that that's kind of hypocritical it's like

04:14:09.100 wait you found me like like this and now you want it to like i just i think it's i think you

04:14:16.700 might feel you might feel it's hypocritical but i would argue it's actually a good impulse it's a

04:14:22.060 protective impulse that a man has towards his woman right wait what did i miss what what is

04:14:27.820 hypocritical she was saying that guys will tell her her fans will tell her from from online that they

04:14:33.420 they want to date her but once they have her they would want her to stop her online sex work

04:14:39.020 and then they have i i have a lot of like breeding like they want to like put a baby like i get a lot

04:14:44.380 of that where they want they're like oh i want you to have my baby i want you to have my baby like

04:14:49.100 so they want yeah they want to like take it off the market does that make sense okay

04:14:55.660 it's just it's just weird to me that you found me in this website and now you're trying to take it

04:15:00.780 out of the game well let me ask you this what man would want his woman still on the market

04:15:06.620 well if she's no that's fair a pimp what a pimp yeah no that's true but i don't technically like i

04:15:15.180 don't see because i'm not dating those people does that make sense like i'm not dating the people that

04:15:20.300 are coming into my chat rooms and they're not dating those people those are not the clientele for

04:15:26.140 a lack of another term like that's not those are not my possible suitors well i just think it's

04:15:30.780 interesting that they well perhaps one way to address the whole hip hypocrisy thing is prior to

04:15:36.860 dating he had no problem with you engaging in what he considered single behavior but once they started

04:15:43.340 dating he wanted her or you to act in a way that he thought was consistent with being in a relationship

04:15:50.460 so for example i mean we a guy might if you're single we might not necessarily object to you going

04:15:57.820 to bars clubs partying posting provocative photos but if we're in a relationship with you uh if a guy

04:16:05.580 might want to rein in some of those behaviors that are kind of you're still advertising understood yeah

04:16:11.260 that makes sense that makes sense no like totally i get it women go to bars and nightclubs but if you're

04:16:16.140 gonna if you want commitment from me you can't go to the bar and club also building off what he said

04:16:22.140 again uh that carnal like need and desire for sex that guys have programmed into them like of course

04:16:27.500 off the bat that's going to make them really attracted to women in that line of work they're

04:16:31.580 like great sex like i can right get sex all the time but i think what he's saying like it's a good

04:16:35.900 thing when he starts to feel that way because he's starting to see you as something more than just

04:16:40.620 that when he cares about you that's when he's going to want to start putting those restrictions

04:16:44.540 into place so it's honestly a good thing i would also it's funny too how this conversation has gone

04:16:50.140 i would also add that protectiveness if you were to comply with that and be like yeah i'll take like

04:16:56.540 that's what a guy who's going to want to commit to you yeah he's going to want from you okay and i

04:17:01.580 think if he's a good guy and he's asking for that and in your your career is that so you you live off of

04:17:09.260 it that if he's a good guy and that's what you guys want to do in the next part of your relationship

04:17:13.660 he will help guide you and figure out how you can do that transition so you don't have to lose

04:17:18.860 everything and suffer 100 that's that's good leadership right here's one of the thing things

04:17:23.580 though that i think a lot of women who are involved in sex work or stripping or doing only fans uh or

04:17:29.900 just traditional adult content is they make a lot of money so it i think there's that one chick that

04:17:37.820 made like 70 grand a month oh we've had a lot of girls on the show there oh there's more make six

04:17:42.380 figures a month and so i think the attitude at least from what i've interviewed from tons of

04:17:48.060 these girls that have come on the show is well i would stop if they were to continue if they were

04:17:54.060 really rich guys who could provide me the same quality of life exactly maintain the lifestyle but

04:18:00.300 that's such a small portion of men that can make that that amount of money and so it's like

04:18:06.780 that's intimidating to guys in and of itself making that kind of money i don't know i don't find it

04:18:13.500 intimidating if not to all guys but to some guys it's intimidating for like for the female or just

04:18:19.740 turn off right yeah i i don't find it attractive if a woman makes a ton of money yeah but like think

04:18:25.500 about what it could do for your dynasty chase like and assuming it's not think about it think about what

04:18:31.340 it could do to your relationship dynamic if your woman's making 20 times more money than you are

04:18:36.460 like bro she's wearing she's wearing the pants that's my money now i guess that that screws up

04:18:42.780 the power dynamic a lot like i'm not interested in that to that point the other day when people

04:18:46.620 asked me what i was looking for in a man and i said like i want someone to earn you know more money

04:18:50.780 than me and i named that figure like a lot of people were like oh like hypergamous she's only after

04:18:55.340 the money but it's literally based off what you said i know that if i'm not with a man who's

04:18:59.740 going to make more money than me it's going to completely switch the dynamics in the relationship

04:19:03.820 oh yeah what if she's just super submissive chase but she just but she's a bola but she's got some

04:19:11.580 investments or some you know what i mean i mean i mean dude like the there's definitely a way to

04:19:16.620 make it work she's got some fucking doge coin like if she comes to you and she's like hey i'm like

04:19:22.700 really rich but i want to put you in charge of the money it's like okay well that's that's a different

04:19:27.820 story it's a lot of trust yeah let's go not a pre-note um last thing from you atlas in your

04:19:33.820 pre-show notes to us you said i guess one of my hot takes is asking people's body count is immature

04:19:40.380 yeah okay and so i don't even have a high body count but like i have friends sorry sorry sorry

04:19:48.780 actually maybe i do to like um certain people or something like that okay um but i just i don't

04:19:55.340 know i because i watch a lot of dating podcast podcasts of it seems to be like quite a bit older

04:20:01.660 people than like you um and they're the what and their their take on stuff like that i kind of

04:20:11.660 think is true like it seems like people who are older and more mature aren't really having those

04:20:16.220 conversations and maybe it's because the the woman or the man is not giving the vibe that they're

04:20:23.100 sketchy promiscuous you know so we don't need to talk about your exes like it's not the boomers

04:20:28.860 grew up during the sexual revolution and they're all degenerate

04:20:33.740 fucking so the guys i'm kidding i'm kidding the two guys that i watch i think they're like in their

04:20:40.380 mid-40s this was before the hiv okay wait was it hold on they're like in their mid-40s i think i think

04:20:47.420 i listed their names on my application of the people i listen to um he's like i don't want to

04:20:54.220 give them free publicity but um yeah i just feel like depending on how that conversation comes up

04:21:00.860 okay i think there is a certain way it could come up like kind of when i was like questioning him on

04:21:05.020 it and the way he explained it i can get it but i think the way it typically tends to come up is just

04:21:10.620 kind of like i don't know i don't know how to explain it it's why why do you feel like it's not

04:21:16.620 like an appropriate question to ask i know it's it depends on it depends on context do you think it's

04:21:22.220 do you think it's fair for a man to care about that i do i think i but i also not to an a certain extent

04:21:31.340 so right so it's like what extent do you think it's fair if you're worried that they are so

04:21:37.980 promiscuous that they can maybe have an addiction they could cheat on you or maybe they have an std

04:21:43.100 that sounds like some great reasons so i think those are great reasons

04:21:47.180 to what degree do you think it's not fair for a man to care um to what degree do i think it's not

04:21:53.100 fair for men to care if you don't give off any of those vibes like you guys have a really good

04:21:58.860 relationship you're not scandalous he knows you're not promiscuous maybe he knows that you've been

04:22:03.980 checked and you are clean it's like why does it matter i'll tell you why it matters if a woman has

04:22:09.980 a body count of 50 for example and i find that out i'm gonna be asking is that where the high

04:22:14.220 starts like where where's the lower than that yeah okay like for me once once it starts getting

04:22:19.660 into double digits for me like i'm gonna start asking questions like okay like you know tell me

04:22:23.420 about your past right if if she starts getting to like 15 20 30 like past 20 it's like okay what like

04:22:31.660 i want to take a close look at it what's actually happened here especially the younger a woman is

04:22:37.180 because if a person has a series of failed relationships over and over again especially

04:22:41.340 a woman there could be a lot of things that happen there it's like okay what were you doing were you

04:22:45.420 doing one night stands for like a few years constantly getting railed by guys at bars

04:22:49.900 can i ask what's up so did it come up in conversation with you and your girlfriend

04:22:55.740 and if so like how did it come up then it did and i asked her but out of respect for her i don't

04:23:03.100 want to say anything more about that conversation but yeah it did like i asked her just very frankly

04:23:08.860 and it was like initially she was like whoa like why why are you asking me that and then and then

04:23:13.180 what did you say once once like we started to know that like we were interested in one another

04:23:17.980 and it was like mutual like there was a mutual understanding then i asked and what was your

04:23:22.940 reasoning though because she was like she was thrown off right she was like whoa where's this

04:23:27.020 coming from and you were like well this is why i want to know like what was your like this is why

04:23:31.180 i want to know it's a great question basically exactly what i'm describing to you so and i'll i'll

04:23:37.980 add some context there's a lot of data on the number of premarital sexual partners somebody's had

04:23:44.860 and what their likelihood of divorce is in marriage and that was your idea like going

04:23:49.660 and you're like i want to know yeah that's one of the main reasons once i saw the data on like body

04:23:54.940 count and the number of partners either a man or a woman has had i was like yo this is an important

04:23:59.180 thing because my parents got divorced and i want to do everything i possibly can to minimize the chances

04:24:05.580 of ever getting divorced to my partner like it's it's the worst thing that you can ever go through

04:24:10.460 in marriage obviously um and so it's like there's a there's a lot of different factors that go into

04:24:15.980 divorce maybe one person is really bad at listening to the other uh maybe one person is like lazy

04:24:21.260 whatever but the number of premarital sexual partners somebody's had there's it's like a direct

04:24:27.660 correlation the higher that number the higher the chances of divorce so to give you an example a virgin

04:24:33.740 on average has less than five percent chance of getting divorced somebody with more than 10 sexual

04:24:39.260 partners on average 50 chance of getting divorced that's a big deal that's a and this is for both

04:24:45.740 sexes that's a big deal so if you're somebody who really cares about marriage and you don't want to

04:24:50.380 get divorced especially as a man because men get absolutely screwed in divorce you want to ask those

04:24:56.940 questions and so i was very upfront with her i was like this is this is what i'm i'm optimizing for

04:25:01.500 marriage this is why i care and it's like there's there's different reasons other than that why it matters

04:25:07.020 it's like if somebody was a serial monogamist for example that's different than if they were

04:25:11.660 cheating on their ex-partner which is different than if they were getting railed at bars all the

04:25:16.700 time like there's you want to know about the person's psychology and when you have that that

04:25:21.900 conversation you can you can gain insight into like who are you how do you approach relationships and

04:25:28.220 if you care about marriage you can gain valuable information there any it looked like you had some

04:25:32.940 something to say because i must be an anomaly because i must be an anomaly because my husband

04:25:38.780 never asked that question well most most guys in your generation don't like it's it's kind of like

04:25:44.140 an our generation thing so here's the thing though rahab was related to jesus christ so was tamar

04:25:54.700 oh they had some bad mojo before they were with their husbands so oh okay if you're going to truly

04:26:04.460 be christ-like and i'm not trying to put you on the spot i'm not trying to disrespect you

04:26:09.500 that's not going to matter because that person if you love them that what they've done before does not

04:26:17.420 matter so it doesn't matter and i'm married 14 years now i just want to know it's just not fair

04:26:24.700 it's not fair that's all i'm saying okay i hear what you're saying it's not fair hold on hold on

04:26:29.580 it's just not fair the life's unfair the world's unfair women curve short dudes because they're

04:26:37.420 short brian you get a pass because you're not these two dudes wait what do you mean no so here's

04:26:41.980 the thing because these guys are christ followers you're saying they're supposed to have grace for

04:26:46.060 for women in all areas because we're christian doesn't mean we have to marry prostitutes they

04:26:50.460 can have no i'm not i'm not telling you guys to do that but everyone can have you know what

04:26:54.700 rahab was redeemed by by by a spy i just i just preached on this at a church on sunday she was

04:27:00.380 redeemed by a spy that cared enough for her when the when the walls came down to jericho to take her

04:27:05.020 out of that lifestyle but isn't that the exception to the rule and when you look at your lifestyle even

04:27:09.740 you say maybe i'm the exception yes girl you are the exception look at the upbringing that you had

04:27:14.460 him i want him to expand his mind and not be so judgmental all right so somebody could possibly

04:27:19.420 love hold on hold on fully expanded i will not marry a prostitute so i'm not saying that they're

04:27:25.580 still doing it annie may i please respond to everything that you just said okay

04:27:32.380 there is room for christ-like love and there there is also room for wisdom and discernment in terms of

04:27:37.580 who you are entering a marital contract into okay you can forgive someone for their past someone

04:27:42.860 can have a past that doesn't mean that you're obligated to marry them okay so if i'm having

04:27:48.700 a conversation with a woman and she has a past but she regrets her past and she's repentant of it let's

04:27:55.820 say you know maybe she had like a bad pattern in her past maybe she you know was looking for love in

04:28:02.460 all the wrong places something like that and she developed a habit of sleeping with men too easily or

04:28:08.620 or or something like that that is something that a person can learn from and there's also absolutely

04:28:15.100 room for christ-like forgiveness for something like that there's no question you know everybody can be

04:28:20.460 made new again in christ okay why i would care though still as a man is because i want to know what

04:28:28.620 happened there because if i'm going to get married to you unless we're signing a prenup or something like

04:28:34.380 that like i need to know who are you how do you approach relationships i can have forgiveness for

04:28:39.900 your past but how do you approach relationships because here in america we've got no fault divorce

04:28:45.100 is there something there that might lead you one day to just decide you want to divorce me and

04:28:51.420 absolutely screw me and take my kids and half my income and everything like that is there something

04:28:55.980 that could be lurking there because if there is i want to know about it you know i'm not obligated to

04:29:01.340 marry a woman with a past if i'm entering into a contract with somebody i want to know who i'm

04:29:06.220 entering into that contract with but you can still you can still love them and forgive them what'd you

04:29:10.780 say you don't have to be a prostitute to do that divorce someone and take all their money okay there's

04:29:14.940 plenty exactly yes yes there are there are which is and and most most people nowadays are not prudent

04:29:21.820 about who they marry most marriages end in divorce a lot of people just get up in their feelings and

04:29:26.940 they fall in love with somebody and they don't have the really hard conversations they

04:29:30.060 don't ask the really tough questions both men and women a lot of women don't vet men properly

04:29:35.900 for their red flags a lot of women end up with men who are abusive yeah a man could have had an

04:29:41.820 abusive past a man could have been a murderer it's a woman's job to see if that was the case

04:29:46.540 because if he was a murderer she can forgive him and have christ-like love for him but is she

04:29:50.940 still obligated to marry him would it be a good idea no i'm not saying that i'm just saying you just

04:29:56.860 have to open your mind because what if there is a person that you meet and i'm gonna pray that for

04:30:01.340 you by the way that there i'm gonna pray for him i'm gonna pray for him to run into a woman that's

04:30:06.780 so he can't handle the traction he has and it's so strong that it's actually spiritual too and he's

04:30:13.500 like compelled to marry her we're not just so not against the christian marrying a prostitute i'm just

04:30:19.340 i'm just saying that hosea hosea gets a direct that's the redemption that's what we're that's what

04:30:23.660 christ did for the church go ahead go ahead yeah i i you know it's beautiful and i cry for this

04:30:29.020 because there is so many women out there and i'm gonna cry for them that they just want someone to

04:30:34.140 love them and give them a chance you're not owed a relationship you're not i know but still but

04:30:39.340 that's why christ came so we could all be redeemed i guess that's why maybe it could kind of suck

04:30:45.180 for the girls that's all i fight that's that's fair that's fair and i respect that i respect that

04:30:49.580 no their hearts you're you're give their they'll give their their shirt off their back

04:30:54.860 annie i want to they'll give their shirt off their back and they give their heart more more than once

04:30:58.780 trust me and that's why they might be great people but but yes can i say something really

04:31:04.140 let me get in i'm emotional because you know what i'm i'm just i'm sad i want to say

04:31:09.580 annie well okay so hold on hold on hold on hold on it makes me sad annie please listen am i wrong

04:31:15.020 for crying please annie please listen please listen no you're not wrong for crying i annie

04:31:19.020 i love the heart that you have for these women and and i love the fact that you are a voice for

04:31:23.340 these women you listening yeah i love the fact that you're a voice for these women because i i can't

04:31:29.180 imagine you know your guys's lives and everything that you've been through like i think it's very

04:31:33.340 valuable that you're speaking up on their behalf okay now just just like you're a voice for those

04:31:39.100 women what i'm trying to do is be a voice for men and we live in a world where a lot of bad

04:31:44.380 women screw over a lot of good men and i understand that i i totally get the jezebels i get it i i

04:31:51.260 respect that part i don't want you guys to get hurt too but we got to give each other a chance some

04:31:56.540 at some point there's no question we we've got to give each other christ-like chances but it's also

04:32:02.140 important to be just for both sexes to be discerning about who they're getting into relationships with

04:32:07.740 because there's a lot of broken families out there and a lot of broken marriages and i want to try and

04:32:12.220 prevent that annie can i ask you a question would you object to a woman not wanting to date a man

04:32:16.380 who's shorter than her that's totally different subject no it's no it is not annie no it is

04:32:25.020 everybody knows well just but can you answer the question can you answer the question though

04:32:28.460 would you object would you object to a woman not wanting to date a man who's shorter than her

04:32:34.940 he's saying preference i've dated men shorter than me would you okay let's let's say atlas is like i

04:32:41.020 don't want to date men unless they're under uh over six feet tall would you say that's wrong or is

04:32:44.780 she justified in that i mean this has nothing to do with this it has it has everything to do i mean

04:32:50.380 is she wrong for wanting that for me it doesn't for for you it has muscles it's on okay so basically

04:32:56.700 what what you're saying what you're saying is it's not okay for us to have preferences but it's okay for

04:33:01.260 women to have preferences that's what you're telling me i want someone to buy the champagne this is all got to

04:33:06.220 to do with redemption and sexuality and mistakes being made somebody you you were born short that's

04:33:12.540 not your fault right but choosing to people people can make mistakes in their life but they can also

04:33:19.340 choose to continually do wrong and that is their fault if somebody chooses to keep doing the wrong

04:33:24.700 thing that is their fault if a woman if a woman decides i want to go have sex with 50 minute bars

04:33:30.860 over the next 10 years obviously no woman's consciously thinking that but if she makes the

04:33:35.340 choice continually to do that that's her choice she made that choice basically i'm not tricking

04:33:40.620 anybody though i'm not tricking anyone into marriage i'm not tricking anyone into divorce i'm putting them

04:33:45.100 i'm putting a price out and you know it's up front and guaranteed i give you what you pay for and

04:33:51.580 if they want it they want it is that what you're saying they want it you got it there's no tricking

04:33:55.180 there's no there's no but but this is this is she's honest this is i'm honest but it's not a

04:33:59.900 contract for relationship okay this is the thing though is that when men have preferences standards and

04:34:05.500 boundaries for example not wanting to date a woman who's has a promiscuous past not wanting to date a

04:34:11.660 woman who was engaged in sex work in her past or currently it's i mean to me it's shocking that it's

04:34:19.420 somehow that you can i just feel like you shouldn't have to explain it yeah yeah i understand

04:34:26.780 nobody no no no let me finish let me finish people always have issues with male standards

04:34:33.180 male preferences male boundaries but nobody bats an eye when a woman says i want xyz in a partner

04:34:38.780 women are allowed to have preferences standards and boundaries men aren't if a woman says i want to date

04:34:43.500 a guy who's tall cool if a guy says i don't want to date a woman who's overweight whoa that's

04:34:49.100 you're fat shaming that's body shaming you're discriminating men's preferences are discriminatory

04:34:54.140 women's preferences are preferences it happens to be the case that men care about a woman's past

04:35:00.940 her promiscuity so it's literally just like literally like the equivalent this is like this

04:35:09.020 conversation is like the equivalent of saying uh okay so a man's like yeah i don't want a woman who's

04:35:14.860 a prostitute this is basically the same as if a woman was like i don't want a guy who has gotten

04:35:20.380 drunk and beaten up his girlfriends in the past you could have grace for uh a man's past but if you as

04:35:26.140 a woman don't want to be with a guy who's beaten women in the past that's your choice and you're

04:35:29.820 justified in that i don't care if a man doesn't want a woman that was a prostitute i don't care you

04:35:34.780 you don't that doesn't bother me and he does it doesn't bother me what it bothers me is that we

04:35:41.820 pass judgment on women for sleeping with a lot of men but women don't get to pass that judgment on men

04:35:46.700 women absolutely get to pass that judgment they absolutely get to pass that judgment

04:35:52.460 both men and women can both men and women make judgment calls about potential partners

04:35:57.660 you know what this makes the world go around i'm sure you like it makes the world go around okay but

04:36:02.140 men pass judgment on the girls at the at the bunny ranch every single day on race color size so

04:36:09.500 you'll date anybody you have no there's no discernment at all when i'm on this show to

04:36:13.580 figure out how to date hello

04:36:22.860 we don't know what we're doing here we're gonna um we're gonna wrap up here pretty soon guys i just

04:36:27.740 don't understand why people can't just love i'm just i think you guys aren't saying that

04:36:33.340 you guys why can't why can't women why it's just not your preference well you're saying you can love

04:36:38.940 a prostitute without marrying her okay okay that's the point we don't want you to marry us we want

04:36:43.340 you to take she did but you are also saying that a prostitute if the guy is okay with it she still

04:36:50.220 deserves love and marriage if if somebody yeah if a guy wants if a guy's okay with it yeah it's just

04:36:55.820 a guy's okay with it or not well i but i'm i think we're also saying here most men are also probably

04:37:02.380 going to have an issue with it not even religious guys i think it's like a biological and psychological

04:37:07.820 reaction like take religion completely out of the picture and most guys would still have the exact same

04:37:12.540 feeling because it's biological and it's psychological but it's also as biological as men like women with

04:37:17.740 skinny waist and wide hips so they can they can birth okay and i see a lot of women get married

04:37:22.780 that don't have skinny weights and wide hips oh okay okay okay i'm also biological i see a lot of men

04:37:31.100 men i can't say them so you made a good point there i was i was going somewhere i was going somewhere

04:37:36.860 i mean if men want to have men want to be with a younger version of their wives and they can't do that

04:37:44.060 okay okay well if you're going to talk biologically then so for example back in the day like like going

04:37:49.660 back to the uh what's it the old part of your brain that we still yeah so like back like back in those

04:37:56.380 days the only way to ensure paternity that the men was to ensure that this was going to be his child

04:38:03.020 is if the woman remains single to him and committed to him sorry and still that's why to this day that

04:38:09.340 part of the brain men don't want to see their woman with anybody else in any capacity even if it's

04:38:13.660 just in the sense of being online and in fact marriage was there's more to it was accepted so

04:38:18.220 that i'd love to hear it would stay take care of the child that they created otherwise there was

04:38:25.500 an offensive side and women were just throwing their children out into the street because the

04:38:28.940 men weren't taking care of a little too far from the mic um really quick on the body count thing

04:38:32.860 uh i want to perhaps oh maybe we should wait until caitlin right your friend comes back um

04:38:38.780 i'll come back to that really quick uh let's go to twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv

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04:38:57.900 drop us a follow drop us a prime sub all right and let me see what else did we have uh she's not back yet

04:39:05.420 i'll wait on that um question for maybe i should i'll wait for on that one too um chase you asked

04:39:11.980 the girls if there was any question that they had for us um i we are trying to wrap up here pretty

04:39:17.340 soon anybody you want to come in oh hey fdg thank you very much for the 50 gifted memberships thank you

04:39:24.860 so much really appreciate it uh oh wait um do any of you have a question for us since we've asked a

04:39:31.740 lot of questions i did have one for you guys um and it was about like the red pill rhetoric a little

04:39:36.860 bit and i thought do you think maybe this rhetoric may encourage a society that lies so for example like

04:39:43.580 ideologies and reality and them not aligning uh do you feel like people are not going to be as honest in

04:39:49.500 the day where would people be motivated to lie yeah clarify that part for example like the body

04:39:53.500 counting um or we kind of like say oh you know we can be born again virgins or something like that

04:39:59.580 and we justify that so it's like uh aren't we just kind of creating false ideologies that we kind of

04:40:04.780 embed with ourselves there's like three questions there so i'm all right we'll break it down however

04:40:08.700 you want uh what you related it to red pill so i'm but i'm failing to she what she's basically

04:40:15.180 saying is all the red pill rhetoric is raising awareness around the subject of body count which

04:40:21.260 could then motivate women to lie about body count and encourage a culture of lying and i would say

04:40:29.260 i would say uh yes it's possible that that could happen however i think both men and women becoming

04:40:38.780 aware of this thing and having uh sometimes unhealthy also sometimes healthy dialogue about it is a good

04:40:45.020 thing for society because it's making men aware of the dangers associated with it it's also making

04:40:52.060 women aware of how much men care about it i think because many women are becoming aware of how much men

04:40:58.860 care about it there's a natural incentive there for women to avoid racking up a high body count right

04:41:05.420 because if they know subconsciously oh this is a standard that men have and i'm either gonna have to lie

04:41:11.340 which would suck or i'm going to have to keep my body count down in order to find the kind of guide

04:41:15.740 that i truly want that's a natural motivation for them to not engage in promiscuity i think that's a

04:41:20.380 good thing could it also encourage a culture of lying absolutely are are a bunch of women going to lie

04:41:25.740 about it because men now care about this absolutely and men as well i think okay so in that case what would

04:41:31.420 you recommend to the viewers like when they're dating how can they mitigate these risks of lying

04:41:38.140 yeah like how can you just maybe well you get a good christian girl yeah get it get it a really

04:41:44.380 good christian girl who authentically believes in these values um i would also say too like there's

04:41:50.860 not really anything that you're going to be able to do about whether or not somebody's going to lie

04:41:54.620 you know now with that said over time as the relationship develops like the truth will

04:42:02.140 probably come out you know you may notice discrepancies in what the person is saying

04:42:06.460 and then that might that might breed a really unhealthy dynamic down the line because if if

04:42:11.180 one person finds out that the other person was lying to them if it if there's like a long span of

04:42:15.740 time over which this happens and then let's say two years into the relationship you find out that the

04:42:20.060 person has been lying to you that's the kind of thing that could destroy a relationship you know

04:42:24.380 what i mean okay um last two questions then we have to wrap up here so we've been talking about body

04:42:30.300 count quite a bit so uh just show of hands who thinks body count matters

04:42:38.700 who thinks body count doesn't matter or shouldn't matter i've seen some good points but just like

04:42:45.740 right in between like there's like a limb there's like a point sorry there's like a point where like

04:42:51.020 okay that that's like a lot that's like a lot but then like if it's like i don't really care if it's

04:42:58.060 not like too too much gotcha so i'll just really quick um i guess yes or no should body count does body

04:43:04.380 count matter how about let me rephrase it do you object to men caring about body count do you think it's

04:43:11.100 kind of immature or maybe they get over it i mean every time some guy has told me i've always been

04:43:16.700 like i don't know like that's like because i've always like when we say like oh what do you have

04:43:23.500 questions for me you know like just try and get to know someone and that's like the first question

04:43:27.740 because i've had some guys like that's like the first question and i just be like rubs you the wrong

04:43:31.500 way yeah it's just like it's just like um oh i don't know sure do you object to men that uh caring

04:43:38.700 about body count if you're starting like a if you're starting like a relationship and whatever

04:43:44.060 they can have their own personal preferences i mean i don't really care do you think it's justified for

04:43:49.660 men to care if they want yeah i guess i think it depends i guess now so if he was going to sit down

04:43:55.660 and have a conversation with me like you were saying and he's trying to really get to know me

04:44:00.540 for certain reasons and it's not just to make a quick hasty judgment then um i'd be way more open

04:44:06.220 to it otherwise i think i would just kind of be like okay you'd be turned off if he asked right

04:44:11.100 off the bat yeah because it's like why does it matter okay i think it depends on the the length

04:44:17.100 of the relationship and where you're standing if you're depend if it's like a decision maker on

04:44:22.140 whether you're going to stay committed to this person or move forward into the next level i think

04:44:26.540 it i think it at that point it warrants a conversation for both sexes annie what about you yeah i i think

04:44:31.820 that it i mean i appreciate the fact that you guys are trying to show care but i just still want

04:44:38.780 to ask where the redemption is for the ones that have had higher body counts they can they can they

04:44:43.900 can be there but it's a different but i'm just saying like i don't want to argue with you guys

04:44:48.140 because i i don't want to change your opinion i just want you to just have empathy and love for

04:44:53.020 someone let me ask let me ask you a question let me ask you a question do you think it's fair for a

04:44:58.860 woman to care about a man's body count i wouldn't care okay but i never asked my husband those are

04:45:05.260 your personal preferences do you think but he told me anyway do you think it's fair for other women to

04:45:09.660 care about it that's up to them but i myself if they did i think i think everyone should really just

04:45:18.300 forgive each other honestly i agree and listen here's the whole thing if you are going to be in

04:45:24.700 a relationship and you both are focusing on talking about being serious because now it's got to that

04:45:29.660 point if you want to talk about it i think it's okay as long as you're willing to hey i'm about

04:45:34.700 to tell you something and i want to tell you something and i had to tell my husband something

04:45:38.620 you guys this is why this matters to me too right before we got married i had to tell my husband

04:45:44.140 something and i was so afraid to tell him scared to death you guys i had the wedding dress ready

04:45:49.740 and everything and when i told him he was like it doesn't matter to me and i was like are you kidding

04:45:57.660 me he goes no just for let's just stick to the scope of the conversation yeah um okay so you object

04:46:05.580 to men caring about body count yes okay okay so i've only dated one guy and he didn't ask my body

04:46:13.580 count but he said um when i told him who i was he said um he wasn't concerned that i was a prostitute

04:46:21.500 he was concerned that i was a celebrity do you do you object do you object to men caring his concern

04:46:26.700 hold on let me tell you because his concern was that i had had sex with a lot of people

04:46:31.500 and that i would judge him that he would not be as good as the other people that i had sex with okay

04:46:36.780 roger that but do you object to a man caring about it i never gave any i never gave it any any thought

04:46:44.220 it doesn't matter roger that what about you i'll be quick but i think it matters not so much for the

04:46:48.060 man's perspective but for like as an individual being accountable for what you've done and being

04:46:52.780 okay with it and if you're not okay with it then that's where the issue i like but do you or do you

04:46:57.660 not object to a man no okay okay okay amy doesn't object okay so most of you said you do object or

04:47:07.180 you know whatever um so and i think some of you said body count doesn't matter shouldn't matter so

04:47:12.620 if body count doesn't matter what is your body count

04:47:21.580 i don't know i never really thought about it i'm gonna guess what do you mean you never

04:47:25.100 really thought about it like just what there's an it's a number you know like it's kind of like one of

04:47:30.220 the ethos um can you scoot the mic closer towards you like so it's yeah um i think five

04:47:42.460 or six okay okay i think like nine okay sure i think like 12.

04:47:58.380 sure i had four i'm sorry four prior to um work and i think i'm probably right now at like 15. okay

04:48:07.980 um are we talking relationships or work both work i combined them you can tell us the relationship

04:48:17.340 one and the other one work one oh you have a couple ones too oh oh okay you're whispering

04:48:24.380 i thought you're talking about something about work okay um i wrote down the people that i slept with

04:48:29.020 that i thought i was gonna have a relationship with even prior to being in the sex industry and it was

04:48:34.220 about a hundred you guys are like whoa prior to being and i was i was about yeah wait so prior prior

04:48:41.500 to doing sex work people that you were pursuing oh and it was it was during and during sex work as

04:48:47.020 well oh yeah so until i got married 100 about a hundred oh so including work yeah about no no no

04:48:54.700 not including work when when i was having forced sex i'm just saying this okay forced sleeping with

04:49:02.620 people it was not a choice because i was with two men yeah i shouldn't it's about 20 or yeah i think

04:49:09.340 i think and that was forced damn wait hold on just a second 20 to 30 15 a night 30 going on calls

04:49:17.900 damn that's 10 15 a night going on a call so you you're not taking a day off okay when you say

04:49:23.740 i see what you're okay so that's work

04:49:28.780 you did you about 100 with without work you had a pin i had two two different ones five years each time okay

04:49:38.620 got it okay they were very violent too by the way okay yeah me too um

04:49:43.660 um so before not including work you said a hundred yeah including the time i was working so

04:49:51.740 in other words during the relationships with yeah when i was with the relationships with the pimp

04:49:56.220 sometimes i would meet nice guys on the side and he was already cheating on my me i thought with other

04:50:01.260 girls because i had wife-in-laws so i felt justified when i met a nice guy that just wanted to hang out with me

04:50:05.820 and just cuddle me and have sex with me i slept with him it's just trauma so sorry well she found her

04:50:16.220 man yeah i did and and and i win i win and you got saved from that you got saved from that by jesus

04:50:23.980 yeah um you get to win too air force amy what about you at this point um only god knows

04:50:35.020 and i hope it's a lot more you know where to see me but what about okay so there's men for work and

04:50:44.140 then there's men for i've never she's only had one relationship i've only had one well i mean but

04:50:49.100 even yeah but people like no one night stands no that's it that when that guy got everything you

04:50:54.460 know like my first kiss he got my first without a condom he got my first everything so i feel like

04:50:59.180 stained now you know now i feel stained everyone for marriage because he got my first kiss like

04:51:04.620 all that first stuff okay i can get that and i loved him i loved him including work how much

04:51:11.980 like i said only god knows that one honey how how old were you when you had that relationship it was

04:51:17.100 like a year ago a year and a half ago um over under a thousand over over a thousand ten thousand more

04:51:26.700 than ten thousand twenty years yeah it's who knows no god knows i mean i'm not going to try and count it

04:51:33.500 sure what about you um i only share that with my brother i thought it doesn't matter hold up

04:51:39.020 no i said it does oh you said it does yeah we keep it between each other okay there you have it folks

04:51:43.100 okay very last thing here very last question um let's see oh wait actually i forgot one thing hold on

04:51:49.660 as far as the body count goes multiply it by three and that's the real number just saying okay um

04:51:56.060 it's always been a thing where they like tell you about is it american pie it's american

04:52:00.860 pie is that where it started though yeah i think okay i hope so okay um would you object let's say

04:52:08.300 you okay here's a scenario i'll paint uh you just started dating a guy you've been dating for

04:52:14.780 two months you want to be committed he wants to be committed uh and he says hey i don't want you

04:52:20.860 going to bars nightclubs and parties anymore do you say yes babe cool or do you say no you're not

04:52:31.980 going to control me i'm going to keep going out i'm going to keep doing what i want to do

04:52:35.260 what are your thoughts on that scenario i've done it before but at the moment since um i don't

04:52:49.260 so i've done it before like i've i've not went out at all he being like he'll go out all the time and

04:52:58.140 i didn't really care but now that i went back to like partying and like being with my friends again

04:53:07.660 um i will need to have like a night or two with just my friends and then it's fine with me but

04:53:15.580 it just depends okay so do you how often do you go out thursday friday saturday

04:53:22.300 sunday monday tuesday because you guys are friends right yeah but i yeah um it's just okay

04:53:32.300 this week how often did you go out um we didn't go out this whole okay okay generally speaking how

04:53:39.340 often do you go out they're going okay during summer yeah it's summertime yeah okay during the

04:53:45.580 summertime during the summer it'll just be like whenever i'll just be bored i'll just call my friends

04:53:50.780 and be like let's go out so it'll be like about five times a week so it'll be like yeah

04:53:57.740 thursday friday four times a week sometimes five sometimes not really going out doesn't count if you

04:54:04.380 like go out to dinner with your girl and you have some drinks and cocktails right i don't think we're

04:54:09.260 like going to the bar or going to the club like going partying okay like pretending to be simple

04:54:14.060 it'll be like two days like three three or two days well you're still good okay sure um

04:54:21.740 same with you two or three nights a week four nights a week yeah just i mean like partying probably

04:54:28.060 like two or three and then like just like hanging out with like my friends like girlfriends okay like

04:54:33.580 five yeah okay and so you start seeing a new guy and he says hey

04:54:39.500 don't want you if it's a relationship but seeing no well let's say you want commitment from him and

04:54:47.340 he says i'm prepared to commit to you but i don't want you

04:54:51.340 going out to bars and clubs and drink until 2 a.m every night like oh yeah do you accept or do you

04:54:59.260 say you're not going to control me just like that yeah i'll accept would you or are you just saying

04:55:06.940 that no i would because i'm before you said like no i need at least one or two nights a week to go

04:55:12.300 out with my like that's what i said like with my girl like to go eat like that's what i was saying

04:55:15.740 but no okay yeah all right because i mean when i think of go out i think of something very specific

04:55:20.940 but if i was like in a relationship i wouldn't go to parties okay same thing really yeah okay

04:55:28.780 what about you i wouldn't but that's easy for me to give up because like i've already gotten to do

04:55:33.820 a lot of that stuff like i'm 30 if i do you still do it um very rarely i don't really care to it's

04:55:41.020 like a friend like friends will drag me out and then if i get a little hangover like i'm major regret

04:55:47.100 because it just ruins your next productive day so okay it'd be easy to kind of have no problem

04:55:51.820 giving it up none whatsoever yeah me either it's a welcome break i don't party um not much of a

04:56:00.540 problem maybe just a little what do you mean what do you mean just a little um i think like if the

04:56:05.980 person knows who you are and like this moments for example if i haven't seen my family and we want

04:56:10.620 to go out like no i'm not i'm not talking about the club maybe you can leave the house you can leave

04:56:16.780 the house like we go out in kosovo it's like dancing we're talking like you with your friends

04:56:22.140 yeah i know what you mean you're drunk yeah a bit of dancing like already doing hood rat

04:56:26.620 shit yeah i don't know about that but i feel like there's like a time and place these girls know what

04:56:35.100 you feel like there's a time and place so if a person's like no what what were you gonna say

04:56:38.780 they're just like no don't go out at all like i probably would listen and understand but i would

04:56:44.220 probably not be with someone that's like that either not a problem for me rock and roll okay

04:56:52.620 okay all right the guy actually responded oh wait wait but my phone my phone died but oh my okay

04:56:58.860 whatever but he knows what he said he texted me on snapchat because i dm'd him and then he texted me

04:57:05.100 on snapchat he said kate someone stole your phone you see we told you that's how funny he told you he's

04:57:11.820 looking out though we need okay maybe we can have you guys back one more time and we'll try it again

04:57:18.860 with uh with some other male friends of yours uh andrew you said i was gonna ask him a question then

04:57:25.260 i realized it was a dumb question okay perfect yeah we have respectful friends all right got a couple

04:57:30.940 super chats there yeah just two super chats then we're gonna wrap up guys um lamb de sky thank you for

04:57:36.140 the canadian hundred merci beaucoup our nature pulls us towards hedonism and animalism god guides

04:57:42.060 us into elevation and humanity it's as simple as that hashtag jesus is the messiah but god is king

04:57:50.700 uh i'm sorry i'm gonna have to that was a great super chat overall but i'm gonna have to call you on

04:57:55.500 that last part bro christ is king this is what the bible tells us yeah this shouldn't be a but there

04:58:01.260 this is uh this is a muslim this is certainly a muslim if they're saying that okay all right

04:58:05.740 interesting there you have it well quran says to believe the bible so all right we have bender

04:58:11.900 the offender here my health class teacher had a good analogy for how men and women think so true

04:58:17.340 a man's brain is like waffles a woman's brain is like spaghetti real i don't get that at all you don't

04:58:24.700 get that i don't like i completely i completely get that yep exactly what he's saying is that men

04:58:31.260 are like more like logical and ordered and they're thinking women are like spaghetti okay i get it which

04:58:37.900 is facts generally speaking some dudes are also like spaghetti some women are also like waffles

04:58:45.100 yeah and some people are like unicorns what's another breakfast food i can pancakes pancakes i mean

04:58:52.700 that's pretty much a crepe like some people are like crepes i love this is your brain i hate

04:58:58.620 breakfast food great maybe like a little breakfast burrito breakfast burrito okay guys we are wrapping

04:59:08.220 up here so guys thank you so much for uh tuning in tonight last call guys hit the like button please

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04:59:23.580 the show waffle gang uh thank you to the wonderful panel here it was a good panel here be sure to oh

04:59:32.140 these are my old notes from the show with candace homes um thank you to all our chat mods any women

04:59:38.620 who want to be on the show dm at whatever on instagram guys we will be live again what is it today's

04:59:44.860 tuesday yeah we'll be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific and i'm gonna host somebody on twitch and i

04:59:51.500 want the panel's input and the chat's input on who i'm gonna host on twitch so let me see here real quick

04:59:58.860 we have let me see who we can raid over there on twitch uh let's see uh okay we got joker we got bobka

05:00:09.340 and then so world of warcraft players let me see what joker d is up to one sec guys it's on tv joker d uh

05:00:18.300 i don't think um while i'm getting this while i'm doing the rate would you would you ladies date like

05:00:24.140 a chad world of warcraft gamer oh chad chad world of warcraft gamer like just he's right now the big

05:00:32.780 thing in world of warcraft is hardcore mode so right now like the top guild frontier like they just

05:00:38.940 cleared they cleared molten core they're have the world bosses on farm well they're still working

05:00:45.260 on the green dragons you know um he's super good at world of warcraft he's top one percent really

05:00:53.260 good at world of only if he's down to larp in the park what oh snap i sense a world of warcraft boyfriend

05:00:59.980 in the future are you gonna get a second gamer tag i'm gonna write bobka magic butt cheeks

05:01:06.460 on twitch what about a cs go boyfriend is that like huh cs go would you date a rogue like a level 60

05:01:12.540 rogue no oh like he's gone whoa donated 500 dude thank you so much the show since i'm traveling for

05:01:22.380 work but happy 100. uh the champagne trigger is a thousand yo thanks for that thank you so much mr

05:01:28.540 meatball you're a legend so so good to see 500 more mr meatball i mean if he did yeah if he did 500

05:01:34.700 more we could pop a champagne bottle but um i don't know we're trying to also wrap up here but uh

05:01:40.060 i mean it's up to him um so i'm gonna rate those of you who are watching on twitch i'm gonna raid bobka

05:01:45.020 he's a rogue playing hardcore world of warcraft i'll rate him in just a second someone said your love for

05:01:51.580 world of warcraft is more hardcore than my love for christ true story uh i don't know about do you

05:01:56.700 play world of warcraft no i i used to would you be interested if he did he's down to larp in the park

05:02:02.380 larp in the park what's up slurp in the park so would you say slurp in the park i said let's larp in

05:02:08.060 the park public indecency let's go okay oh uh what does 500 trigger i think that just that's mute a

05:02:16.780 microphone i think but he didn't specify if you want i mean it's the end of the show can i just say one

05:02:21.020 thing before we wrap up annie i know we got in some contentious debate throughout the show but i

05:02:25.260 again want to thank you for your authenticity and your vulnerable your vulnerability sharing your

05:02:30.140 story with us and also for the ministry that you have like god bless you can you get the front door

05:02:39.260 let's go thank you sir thank you sir let's go whoa whoa whoa hey you be nice you be nice

05:02:47.020 whoa mr meatball you gotta you gotta say something to her because i didn't say i said thank you

05:02:53.180 oh that's of course yeah that's definitely what you said i did love your name

05:02:58.620 i i thought maybe i heard it wrong i don't know also request for everybody in the chat yo if you guys

05:03:04.060 believe in jesus let's get christ is lord in all caps in the chat please oh bro bro bro bro you

05:03:09.580 already opened what the point it pointed away from the uh equipment pointed away from the

05:03:14.860 equipment shoot him oh my god bro you should have let me do it hold on all right let me get it

05:03:22.940 don't worry guys i know how to just don't like you don't hit your equipment the way you answered

05:03:27.420 that i sound worried yeah yeah oh oh oh wow got a little spill there

05:03:33.660 very nice they're nice i like uh so do i just start you do you drink yeah all right a little bit

05:03:42.620 uh let's pour one out for our homies okay just

05:03:49.660 perfect yo look at all those crisis lords in the chat for the 100th episode let's go

05:03:54.300 to god the glory i was pressing it so hard let's go what's that i said and you looked annoyed i was

05:04:00.060 pressing it so hard uh is that your cup so i just like i just unfolded a bunch of cups for you so you

05:04:05.980 can pass them out oh these right here yeah yeah okay unfortunately you guys are underage

05:04:13.100 uh no this is um if anybody wants to come in with another thousand just saying we got another bottle okay

05:04:18.220 schloss keep it coming see what happens look at all of these i'm being a gremlin let's go

05:04:25.900 all right let's go this is awesome this is for chase doing a couple thousand and we'll find out like

05:04:32.860 amy yes please thank you all right how they really play where boundaries lie i'm just kidding

05:04:38.380 i'm just kidding i might actually be out here pretty soon i don't know i might not be able to get

05:04:42.620 it for everybody chase you gonna have some or not you just gave me a cup air oh yes i don't know if

05:04:48.860 are we it's almost empty yeah it's almost looks like okay redistribute i don't need a glass i'm good

05:04:54.940 i don't drink much i don't drink much what is that ladies it's uh champagne i know but like

05:05:11.900 because it it does taste pretty good it's schloss bee brick yo yo yo yo cheers to episode 100 cheers

05:05:20.300 cheers to and then cheers to episode 1000 that's next yeah it's like you cheers and then touch

05:05:28.940 and then you do that again but with the voice cheers to the bunny ranch yeah thank you cheers

05:05:34.700 to uh hookers for jesus cheers to hookers for jesus and uh cheers to okay okay someone

05:05:44.460 someone said there's so many cups on that five let's go true hey w w's in the chat for uh mr meatball

05:05:54.220 he's been a patron for a long while now thank you so much for your patronage man it's uh i very much

05:05:59.500 appreciate oh that looks bugged out um thank you so much for your patronage man uh thank you for tuning

05:06:04.540 in for our 100th episode it's uh i've been doing this for the podcast a little over a year now and uh

05:06:11.180 big milestone to hit and the podcast has been doing well so chat wasn't always so thank you guys

05:06:16.060 put w mr meatball in the chat as appreciation yeah let's get some love for mr meatball i want to

05:06:23.020 w's in the chat for mr meatball um i want to watch andrew's video one more time and then

05:06:29.180 we'll proper wrap naked so righteous dude all right that's a good little outro video i love that video

05:06:36.140 you know goes so hard now i can pay a better time because all i heard was the last part not the

05:06:43.900 first part so i was like what does the man get a one night stand repent and believe the gospel

05:06:51.900 you don't need you don't need no one night stand you need jesus oh it's so based

05:06:56.220 it's a bit of a side eye like yeah it's so big you handed him the thing while telling him

05:07:02.220 how do you get a one night stand so wait wait wait wait wait let's say you need jesus man let's say

05:07:08.140 it on the podcast ladies mr andrew is single what's your uh instagram tag instagram at ac golden zero four

05:07:15.820 one one ac golden zero four one one don't even uh try to come out and he's waiting for marriage

05:07:21.980 would you would you date a buddhist no uh no okay just curious just curious um what was the

05:07:30.940 question that the guy asked in the video how do you how do you how does a man get a one night

05:07:34.380 i'm gonna ask you again here andrew how do you get a one night stand repent and believe the gospel

05:07:40.860 you don't need a one night stand you need jesus man oh there you go all right cool all right guys um

05:07:46.700 thank you for tuning in tonight for our 100th episode thank you very much thanks again to the

05:07:50.140 wonderful panel we will see you guys again sunday at wait did i do i did all the chats right just one

05:07:56.620 okay yeah i did we'll see you guys sunday 5 p.m good night guys see you next time

Whatever Podcast - September 13, 2023

30,000+ Body Count？! Should Men Marry PRØSTITUTES？｜ Dating Talk #100 💯

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