Whatever Podcast

00:00:00.000 to the whatever dating talk podcast thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in

00:00:03.740 the world but you're here with me i appreciate that we're coming to you live from santa barbara

00:00:08.060 california every sunday and tuesday at seven i suppose 6 p.m pacific today i'm your host

00:00:13.800 brian atlas i'm joined by my co-host back there yeah uh ashley st claire she got a name change

00:00:22.700 used to be kiki now it's ashley st claire okay she's a bit shy a few quick announcements before

00:00:26.920 the show begins this podcast is viewer supported heavy youtube demonetization so please consider

00:00:33.020 donating through streamlabs instead of super chatting as youtube takes a uh brutal 30 cut as a uh we have

00:00:41.060 a uh large truck passing by so if you super chat 100 youtube takes 30 if you donate 100 streamlabs

00:00:48.020 only takes three streamlabs.com slash whatever link is in the description uh given our guests tonight

00:00:52.860 and for the sake of a smooth stream we have bumped up our super chat and tip triggers please see the

00:00:57.900 description for full details guys please keep the super chats donations tts respectful playful roasting

00:01:03.220 is okay but if you go too far with it we reserve the right to not show or read it we have channel

00:01:08.060 memberships to become a channel member hit the join button tier one is just five dollars a month you can

00:01:12.000 also gift memberships we're also live on twitch right now guys do me a favor pull up another tab go to

00:01:17.200 twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one we got merch shop

00:01:22.420 whatever.com stuff you can wear to not be naked don't be a criminal get some merch follow us on

00:01:26.640 instagram at whatever any girls who want to be on the show dm at whatever on instagram follow me on

00:01:31.840 instagram bd underscore atlas um i will reveal what the seven on my lapel means if we get me over 70k

00:01:38.020 followers uh and uh oh if you can't catch the full shows we have three clips channels link is in the

00:01:45.640 description go subscribe without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please

00:01:50.360 tell us your name age and occupation go ahead hi everyone i'm lena the plug i'm 32 years old and i'm

00:01:57.780 an only fans creator and a mom my name is adam 22 i'm 39 years old and i am a podcaster and dick smith

00:02:09.700 what is that what's a dick smith i slang pipe for a living it's at least one part of you're a pipe

00:02:17.160 slanger yeah like a blacksmith but a yes okay makes sense nice yeah hi i'm christy i'm 33 years old

00:02:26.460 i'm an only buy only fans model and content creator i'm brenna i'm 34 and i am a publicist

00:02:34.400 my name is madison i'm 18 i'm the secretary to kiki on the whatever podcast i'm a host at a bar and

00:02:43.700 as well as a student at santa barbara city college studying business my name is lila rose and i'm 34

00:02:50.380 i'm a wife and a mom and the founder of live action and a podcaster my name is ruslan i'm 38

00:02:57.040 i'm a follower of jesus husband father uh youtuber podcaster my name is isabella i am 23 years old

00:03:06.100 i am a conservative influencer and i am a fellow at an international strategy think tank

00:03:12.260 rock and roll welcome everybody i'm 34 i'm a podcast host and not a dick smith okay um so uh

00:03:21.900 let's go around the table once more what's your current relationship status or are you single

00:03:27.020 are you in a relationship talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship

00:03:31.880 married polycule sex cult um if you're single how long have you been single and what's your longest

00:03:37.840 relationship go ahead hi i'm married to adam as of may we've been together for seven years and that's

00:03:45.440 the longest relationship i've ever been in yeah seven years longest relationship all right

00:03:50.460 hi um i'm currently single i've been single for five months now um i'm in the talking stages with

00:03:59.840 a few people but very single long longest relationship three years three years okay i'm single i think i've

00:04:09.220 been single for two weeks i don't know um a guy asked me to be his girlfriend after two dates

00:04:15.860 and then he broke off me a week later so there's that but my longest relationship was four years

00:04:22.660 okay i'm currently not single my current relationship is my longest relationship and it's been 11 months

00:04:30.360 i'm married for five years and that's my longest relationship

00:04:34.920 married 15 years together a total of 19 years so we're at that phase where we've been

00:04:41.240 together longer than we've been apart i am currently seeing someone how long have you been

00:04:48.660 seeing said person uh about like almost a month one month okay yeah longest relationship longest

00:04:56.620 relationship was about a year about a year okay got it got it a couple questions for everybody uh

00:05:04.520 lena how did you get the the nickname lena the plug what's the story there it's not an

00:05:11.120 exciting story i wish i could tell you as well about plugs but at my old job before porn i was

00:05:16.180 like a really good employee my boss called me the plug and that is honestly where it came from

00:05:20.880 okay yeah uh the 22 when i was 15 i started a live journal which some people remember it was like a

00:05:29.880 very early blogging service and i had to put a number after my name because adam was taken and that

00:05:35.200 was that was the beginning of the end got it and what's the story with the lisa simpson tattoo so

00:05:42.860 lil peep was a rapper that i was close with he died of a drug overdose in 2017 and he had that

00:05:48.340 tattooed what it was throat and then i got it on the side of my head thanks yeah okay when he passed

00:05:54.540 got it got it so you guys have been together for seven years okay how did you two meet instagram

00:06:01.600 instagram she dm'd me because she was working for a social media startup and she wanted to uh

00:06:07.900 get me to interview some girls she was representing yeah they're like get us outreach on podcasts and i

00:06:12.660 only knew one podcast at the time so i sent him a dm and he asked me when he was gonna buy me a drink

00:06:18.600 so yeah that's how i ended up here that was my line i said when are you gonna buy me a drink yeah

00:06:23.540 you're gonna take me on a date something like that and you guys have is it two kids or just one

00:06:28.360 just one kid okay is there plans for more or definitely more when you do porn and your body

00:06:34.400 is your job deciding like when to get pregnant is a really big deal but if i didn't do what i do for

00:06:40.040 a living i probably would already be pregnant again she's a mere 32 so we're definitely gonna

00:06:44.640 probably crank out at least one more crank out yeah yeah it's undecided no no we want more kids

00:06:50.920 for sure it's just when is you know the timeline is hard to figure out gotcha and so you guys uh

00:06:56.280 shoot adult content yeah uh you do content together but then adam do you also shoot with other women or

00:07:05.180 not really i did one time because she had a stomach virus but besides that we only shoot together for the

00:07:11.780 most part and then she but she recently did her first scene with another guy which was kind of

00:07:15.280 yes the first time that we branched out into that and i mean that's definitely made the rounds uh

00:07:22.900 it was a bit of a thing it was a bit of a thing um and so actually you know what we have the uh a clip

00:07:30.200 from your instagram nick if you can pull it up but where you kind of announced that you were

00:07:34.700 you know gonna work with jason love yeah and uh are you guys still close with jason or

00:07:40.460 i don't know if we're ever really close with him but well i mean our friendship has gone through a

00:07:46.100 little bit of stress since the scene just because he kind of was yapping his mouth uh on some podcasts

00:07:52.680 and stuff kind of talking crazy so that definitely made it so she when we were talking about because

00:07:57.620 we were thinking about doing like a sort of like game show type thing or like an american idol type

00:08:02.820 tryout thing for us to find the next dude that we're going to film adult content with

00:08:08.620 and so we were we were saying that we're definitely going to have to like really have a group chat where

00:08:13.740 we fill them in on all of our thoughts on what's appropriate and what's not appropriate since we are

00:08:18.080 taking these sort of leaps with our content and as i understand it it was a was it a wedding present

00:08:25.040 from was is that it wasn't the actual wedding present okay before we got married we had the

00:08:31.760 discussion about if i should shoot with another guy and adam had said yes and then after when i was

00:08:36.380 going to shoot it which was shortly after the wedding adam made a joke like you should say this

00:08:40.000 is your wedding present like you gave me all these threesomes like hundreds of threesomes just say that

00:08:44.400 i give you like your past or whatever do you guys no longer do threesomes or we do threesomes every

00:08:49.400 week oh okay yeah but you don't shoot separately solo with other women typically right i mean like it

00:08:55.760 honestly wouldn't really be a big deal i don't think if i were to do that but i don't really

00:09:00.320 make it my business i only got so much time do we have the clip uh i was wondering which one

00:09:05.260 you want the first one

00:09:07.200 no no no the lena's uh lena's excuse me yeah with jason for the record

00:09:20.200 go ahead oh uh hold on you gotta unmute it

00:09:27.260 go ahead hey guys guess who i'm shooting with today

00:09:32.200 it's finally happening wow i did not know you were gonna do that

00:09:40.920 okay you can pause it pause it um so that that's the guy who you did a scene with you haven't seen

00:09:48.060 it i have not seen it damn brian i have not seen a free sub what's that i can get you a free

00:09:53.300 subscription to my page that's like not listening to the new taylor swift album or something yeah

00:09:58.000 there you have it there you have it i'm i'm out of the loop i'm a boomer pretty much

00:10:02.640 um so uh how did you guys distribute it was it through oh your own my only fans page yeah

00:10:09.980 and to unlock it did you just need a sub or did you also have to pay like an additional it was

00:10:14.760 twenty dollars in the messages which for a first of any sort is like kind of on the cheaper side i hear

00:10:21.200 of some girls charging like 50 100 150 but okay so in addition to having to sub to your of also

00:10:29.160 there was a price to unlock it was 2020 okay uh do you guys know how many downloads it's got

00:10:36.040 are you able to track that on i don't think so not per video like that well you can see like how

00:10:42.020 many people bought it um but uh do you guys know the numbers on how many it's in the many seven

00:10:49.020 digits in income really but well but as far as like i mean it leaked a lot i would love to know

00:10:53.540 like the leak number so i could actually know how many people viewed it even if they didn't pay for

00:10:57.600 it yeah i'm sure it got leaked oh yeah everywhere was it re-uploaded on various websites yeah i had

00:11:04.160 like three different dmca teams on it like in different time zones so did you guys get um any

00:11:09.700 backlash oh yeah yeah yeah we had definitely never got like the conservative community backlash before

00:11:17.060 but then also like obviously i'm in the hip-hop world podcast wise and everything so there's

00:11:22.040 definitely uh an element of stigma from that and you know it's obviously all like some of it's super

00:11:27.060 serious was like people who really think this is like the worst thing you could possibly do

00:11:30.720 and then there's people that just want to get their jokes off um so it's kind of all over the place

00:11:35.540 in terms of that yeah gotcha um so we have some other married people here do you guys have

00:11:40.780 any thoughts on the sort of arrangement that they have um i mean i i'm extremely grateful to be married

00:11:51.600 my husband's a awesome guy and um you know i was sort of praying and waiting my life for to find a man

00:11:59.400 like him and when i did i was so grateful so yeah i mean for us fidelity is really really big

00:12:05.160 uh we think that's part of being married is that it's a sacred promise to each other so i think

00:12:10.900 that's obviously a difference i think philosophically that we have um but yeah i mean having that intimacy

00:12:17.280 together part of intimacy i believe is just for us too and that has to do with um sex it's sacred i

00:12:24.680 believe it's sacred and is for just people who are married and committed to each other for life

00:12:29.320 well let me tell you something is that the first time we ever hooked up we had had a few drinks but

00:12:36.900 we facetimed a girl who was a mutual friend of ours during a bj aspect of us hooking up which i say

00:12:44.660 just to say that for us it has always come very natural that we had like a little bit of that

00:12:50.260 exhibitionist streak in us and like so i think a lot of people view the jason love scene or us doing

00:12:57.460 like different kind of stuff outside the box as being kind of like shocking but i say that just

00:13:02.240 to say that like for us it wasn't really much of a stretch you know like as time went by in our

00:13:07.480 relationship and we started shooting you know professional content with other girls or just us

00:13:12.500 or whatever it just didn't really strike us as super out of the ordinary so for like most people

00:13:18.040 they would be going from being in a strict relationship where they're practicing monogamy to

00:13:24.080 like then the idea of another guy coming in and like sleeping with their wife like a lot of people

00:13:28.280 can't really seem to have a hard time wrapping their head around the fact that for us it was

00:13:32.040 content that she had just really been dying to have a new penis inside of her then she you know we could

00:13:40.060 have had that conversation for sure but you know this definitely wasn't really that it was really more

00:13:44.700 of like a business plan yeah for us it's not cheating or infidelity because it was all you know talked

00:13:50.100 about but everyone has their own guide in terms of what makes what's cheating in a relationship and

00:13:55.740 you know if i was texting jason right now probably that would be considered cheating but me having

00:14:01.680 gone to at a certain time and place and told my husband like i'm gonna fuck him and we're gonna film

00:14:07.360 it you know that was not cheating so it's just are you guys familiar with wilt chamberlain yeah he said

00:14:14.400 sex with what like 9 000 women or something yeah he said i know what it's like to have sex with a

00:14:19.120 thousand women yeah he said but in hindsight i would rather have sex with one woman a thousand times

00:14:24.380 no i respect that for sure i end up thinking about that a lot in terms of like you know i think before

00:14:30.180 her i'd had sex with something like 300 girls and then us being together probably like another 300

00:14:35.880 and it's like i don't regret that by any means because i think that in some way you know you have to

00:14:43.020 sleep with some number of women before you can make some kind of educated decision about what kind

00:14:47.860 of woman you want to spend the rest of your life with now that being said like what is that number

00:14:51.840 obviously a lot of people think or not a lot but like some people think that it's preferable to be

00:14:56.400 a virgin before you get into a relationship i don't personally really think you have enough

00:15:00.880 information uh about what you're into or not into before you've slept with anyone and obviously

00:15:06.660 there's a lot of ways to get to know somebody besides just sleeping with them but myself i've

00:15:11.060 personally had the experience many times of you know pining over a girl for weeks and then finally

00:15:17.620 sleeping with her and her vagina was just blown to smithereens it was just no good i couldn't get

00:15:22.840 any kind of enjoyment out of it and to me that's just like you need to find that out before you

00:15:27.880 actually go for it you know okay if you're marrying a virgin i mean that kind of eliminates

00:15:33.040 that entire i think some with vaginas are just like inherently blown out like i think they just

00:15:39.200 they come like that just they just are fucked up yeah like some that's just a genetic thing

00:15:43.320 like all different all kinds of different size vaginas just the same way that like ladies i'm sure

00:15:48.680 you wouldn't want to marry some guy and then find out he had a two and a half inch penis right

00:15:52.520 yeah you have to see it first there's no i think it depends on like your view of the person because

00:15:57.460 if if our view of the person is what can they give me like in terms of immediate sexual gratification

00:16:03.300 as opposed to is this someone that i want to choose to love because i think love is a choice

00:16:08.780 and someone that i would see raising a family with one day and i could be with together for life

00:16:14.400 and then you figure out sex together and you can keep optimizing your sex by loving each other more

00:16:18.940 and more and more but ultimately it's a love is a choice i believe and it's one that is a gift of

00:16:24.740 yourself and you receive the gift of the other person but if i had started to hang out with her

00:16:29.920 and the first time that i saw her vagina it was a venus flytrap it's just i want to know that before

00:16:36.480 i get into like a serious relationship i think that's very valuable information like i think

00:16:40.560 there are big vaginas there are big dicks there are small vaginas there are small dicks and

00:16:44.400 realistically they need to be matched up appropriately wait wait hold on venus flytrap what

00:16:50.480 are we talking are we talking about audi well just like i'm just picturing like a bunch of like

00:16:54.580 venom and poison and all kinds of like spiked teeth and stuff like within the vagina i don't know

00:17:00.540 can i say something sure i think it's like an energetic connection like when you're hooking up

00:17:05.700 with someone you either like energetically have a connection with them or you don't that's like

00:17:11.180 why you're like kiss with your eyes closed yeah you could like feel their energy if i had like bad sex

00:17:15.860 it's done that night yeah but also like with that being said i don't think it's about the number i think

00:17:23.280 it's about the ratio like certain people have some people just everyone wants to fuck them and if

00:17:31.060 they've fucked 100 people and 7 000 people wanted to fuck them that's like a pretty low ratio you live

00:17:37.280 in the middle of nowhere no one really wants to fuck you you're not that good looking and you slept with

00:17:42.360 10 people that's like kind of a big deal maybe only 10 people wanted to fuck you in your whole life and

00:17:47.560 you fucked all of them like i think it's about the ratio not the number can we is it what is is this

00:17:54.380 like home math i'm just trying to i'm just saying like it's about like the ratio i like this perspective

00:17:59.380 it depends where you live it totally depends in the city if you go out how you look like

00:18:06.040 if everyone like that if you're going to the pool and you look a certain way and everyone wants to

00:18:11.200 fuck you and you're having fucked everyone you're not a slot but it's like i don't know you don't

00:18:17.220 look a certain way you don't go out 10 people want to fuck you and you fuck all of them 10 sounds like

00:18:22.580 a low number compared to 50 but if out of a thousand 50 is not that big it's hard for me to keep track of

00:18:27.820 the math here is the ratio is like the difference between like ratio and like body count are you

00:18:33.280 saying they're two separate things yeah yeah yeah no i'm saying body count doesn't matter it's the

00:18:38.400 ratio to body count it's about the opportunities so like if we both had like a hundred guys wanting

00:18:45.920 to fuck us no wait no like if you had a hundred and i had like a thousand it's hard it would be so

00:18:53.040 different based on the ratio yeah it's about how many opportunities you took technically can i you said

00:19:00.340 something about energy a transfer of energy is it is it fair to say that we all agree there's something

00:19:05.720 that's spiritual oh yeah okay and and we all acknowledge that the higher your body count the

00:19:12.620 harder it becomes to pair bond down the road no because i'm saying it's about the ratio no i'm i'm

00:19:17.680 i'm not talking about what if you already bond with someone and then you guys decide together

00:19:21.540 that you guys can go sleep with other people i think it doesn't i think it'll hurt to your

00:19:26.300 connection i think it takes away the data says the bond long term maybe we fucked up babe

00:19:32.440 bigger than the data i have a question when it comes to like because you mentioned your parents

00:19:38.240 and what's your what do you what's your sort of sense of how you plan to talk to your kit your child

00:19:45.060 or i think you said you want to have more kids which is awesome what is your sense of how to

00:19:48.740 communicate like your profession and your work to your kids i mean i think there's a time when your

00:19:54.760 kid is mature to have the conversation about like well this is you know entertainment and the same

00:20:00.080 way you would describe any entertainment and we're just entertainment entertainers in this

00:20:04.340 entertainment business and everything like i don't feel like we're doing anything unethical by having

00:20:10.320 sex filming it and selling it legally and then paying a shit ton of taxes on all of that like there

00:20:15.540 is nothing wrong with that to me and like um i would when she's mature enough just explain that to her

00:20:21.980 yeah i mean i don't think there's anything wrong with two adults agreeing to participate in a sex

00:20:26.680 act off camera or on camera and i don't think there's anything wrong with somebody starting and

00:20:31.140 running a business in which they sell a product to people who want to purchase it so i have no qualms

00:20:36.880 about doing porn but i also like i kind of notice that this always happens where people sort of lay

00:20:42.600 out the terms of our relationship or acknowledge that you know we're in a relationship that's a little

00:20:46.360 non-traditional and like especially in our case we're not really a polyamorous couple per se because

00:20:52.060 you know compare us to like destiny and his girl where he has full-on sexual relationships with other

00:20:57.960 girls and i guess she knows about it but you know that's a separate thing and then you know vice versa

00:21:04.280 she sleeps with other guys um that's kind of like a more extreme version of what we have going where

00:21:10.220 it's more of just like an on-camera thing you know we almost never in the past like three four years

00:21:15.200 have really hooked up with anybody off camera not that we have anything against it it just hasn't

00:21:19.400 really it just it's primarily a work thing from our perspective but what people always do is that

00:21:24.520 once we've sort of laid that out and everybody seems to be in agreement that there's nothing that

00:21:28.520 you can really say is wrong with two adults engaging in whatever kind of acts they want to engage in

00:21:33.140 it just instantly becomes about the kid because there's something inherently uncomfortable about

00:21:38.420 us having the careers that we have and then also having kids now we know a ton of porn stars who

00:21:43.820 basically hide their kids away from the world and nobody knows that they have kids and given the

00:21:48.900 amount of like intense scrutiny that we've gotten over the past couple months i can kind of understand

00:21:53.240 that we've stopped posting our kids face on social media and stuff like that just because we don't

00:21:57.420 really want her to have a life that is so defined by what her parents did for a living but i mean i i say

00:22:04.960 all that just to say that i feel like the argument against people engaging in sort of non-traditional

00:22:10.340 relationships is kind of weak if you have to instantly pivot into like well what about the

00:22:14.060 kids yeah i think uh there's a design of how we were created to function in a one man one woman

00:22:20.600 covenantal arrangement now i think everything outside of that is unhelpful and i think there is

00:22:26.680 something wrong with porn i think porn is a total net negative to society i'm not sure how many of you

00:22:30.860 guys is like fans that watch you regularly you've met in person uh and and how this affects them but i mean

00:22:36.620 andrew uh huberman did a whole long thing about what happens when someone consumes porn master base

00:22:41.480 they open up a feedback loop that's intended to be consumed with someone else so i think it's very

00:22:45.720 hard to make the argument that porn is helping people as much as it's harming people it's keeping

00:22:50.880 a lot of these guys regressed it's keeping i mean the incel community the red pill stuff a lot of the

00:22:55.520 people that rail against you guys probably secretly go and watch this stuff which is a really bizarre

00:23:00.660 thing we've seen it with the fresh and fit girls so i i don't know if as a net positive this is

00:23:05.880 something remove the kids like this is something that you think is actually adding to human

00:23:10.760 flourishing i everyone tries to always focus on like the extreme porn watcher but i think that

00:23:16.020 there's like very healthy porn consumers which are probably the majority with porn consumption

00:23:19.940 and like i don't think that like women consume porn too and i don't think they're sitting around all

00:23:25.000 day just masturbating to porn i mean we both consume it at a very moderate level i don't know you

00:23:30.780 guys created so it's a bit different yeah but i mean like for me if i was single and i was gonna

00:23:35.760 go on a date or even like if me and her are going on a date and i just want to like you know clear

00:23:40.600 the pipes up because i think that's one thing if we're gonna get into our pickup artist bag here

00:23:44.580 and we have the conversation about like how to basically uh prepare for a night of intimacy with

00:23:50.400 a woman you definitely don't want to be going in there with like five days worth of spunk inside

00:23:55.280 your body you want to definitely clear the pipes out so that you're going in there kind of fresh

00:23:59.520 and you're able to actually put work in and for me personally that's one of the big benefits of of

00:24:05.060 adult content is that you know you can just kind of clear your mind i don't think i feel more clear

00:24:10.800 headed at any point throughout the week than right after i j-o'd because that's when i like really don't

00:24:16.620 have sex in my brain at all it's like a total clean slate and that's why a lot of times if i have

00:24:22.500 something to write i gotta you know answer emails for a couple hours i might beat off beforehand you don't

00:24:27.960 see any value to semen retention and guys being able to control themselves if she that's the last

00:24:32.240 shit i want inside my body i want to get rid of it at any cost clear me out interesting so that's why

00:24:38.580 when she you know surprises me with some top midday you don't even know how important what you're doing

00:24:45.180 is in that moment because what you really are doing it's like a stress ball like you're relieving

00:24:50.060 the stress from my body and allowing me to be a better man you're welcome thank you oh there you go

00:24:56.340 there's a there's a statistic i saw recently about um divorce and it was that 56 percent of divorces

00:25:03.180 list pornography use of one of the partners as one of the top reasons so like to ruslan's point

00:25:08.360 um you know there's a lot of at net large at our in our society there's a lot of harm that that porn

00:25:17.060 does to families to marriages and then the top site that um trafficked victims are at according to the

00:25:25.380 data is porn show sites meaning you're going to find a lot of trafficking victims involved in

00:25:30.420 pornography so i think you know to ruslan's point just looking at the net large impact on society

00:25:35.720 we see a lot of that negative impact that pornography has i mean or the fact that a lot of the folks

00:25:41.120 consuming it are underage and i don't think we'd want that kids to consume this can i say something

00:25:45.220 besides for the underage thing just to go back on your point i think if people are watching porn

00:25:51.540 it's because their husband or wife or spouse or significant other isn't gratifying them properly

00:25:58.260 and that's why they're looking other ways to do it so like well it's not really like the porn

00:26:04.480 interest industry it's the chicken not the egg i think it's the other way around it's like fortunately

00:26:08.860 a lot of the porn there's a lot of extreme stuff that happens in a lot of pornography and so yeah the

00:26:14.340 person might be kind of acclimated to want certain more extreme things which i understand i understand

00:26:20.400 they're like so that's why it kind of it can if you're like in a committed relationship and you

00:26:26.500 agree upon certain things then you shouldn't be looking elsewhere and usually you do look elsewhere

00:26:32.180 it's because you're not getting what you thought you were getting out of it and you have everyone has

00:26:36.600 needs okay like that's part of the role of porn from my perspective is that like let's say i have a

00:26:43.460 huge black woman fetish and then i end up in a relationship with an armenian woman should i just

00:26:48.540 live my entire life repressed never getting to reproduce fluid to the sight of a beautiful ebony

00:26:55.300 queen to me it's better for me to be able to handle that cop the only fans of this sort of creator

00:27:00.620 and then just be able to you know do that whereas like same thing with like a lot of fetish stuff

00:27:05.080 like the average girl that you end up in a relationship with say you're a guy who likes to get pegged

00:27:08.920 not really my thing but brian i don't know i don't know but let's say you're into it okay

00:27:14.000 fair enough but let's say that you're into it and it's like that's got to be a pretty hard

00:27:18.320 conversation to have with the average girl of like hey i want you to put a strap on on and go to town

00:27:22.200 with me what do you think well okay but i'm just saying like you might want to like see that stuff

00:27:28.760 online and leave it out of your personal life because it would be so complicated to bring that

00:27:33.320 into your personal life and a lot of like people's fetishes it's just you don't really control that if

00:27:37.460 you're turned on by seeing some some pegging stuff i'm not i'm not into it but like you know that

00:27:41.960 might be a little complicated to bring that into your personal life i dated a guy for like two years

00:27:47.200 i didn't know he had a foot fetish at all he never made it like weird to me like that at all this was

00:27:52.760 way before only fans and stuff and um yeah i only found it from his search history how'd that make

00:27:59.580 you feel it made me feel better because he didn't put me in a weird situation i didn't know he was a

00:28:04.620 weirdo why does that make him a weirdo felix feels really good you should try it i've done foot stuff

00:28:10.760 i think to russland's point too like and when he's saying like porn is so detrimental like this is what

00:28:16.700 he's talking about because people get so progressive and it goes so fast that people get so acclimated to

00:28:21.860 like their dopamine kind of like what makes them get off that they need more and more and more and

00:28:27.180 it just funnels like a deeper porn addiction nobody's a virgin starting off doing like weird kinky stuff

00:28:32.540 or doing having like a foot fetish it's not really like normal and so i think that's mostly what

00:28:37.520 he's talking about and saying that's why it's just detrimental people should just stay away from it

00:28:41.300 i completely completely understand like i'm super conservative republican whatever like i don't

00:28:47.940 i'm not saying yeah i'm a huge patriot grab her by the pussy all day every day i don't know why

00:28:54.740 anything is wrong with that the girl should get off first like he's being very respectful by saying

00:29:00.000 that um i think i want a blowjob before they would grab her pussy i don't i don't know how that's

00:29:06.740 related but do you consider yourself conservative or traditional yeah yeah trump 2024 huge republican

00:29:12.520 i mean that's your politics but like you do you do of correct yeah but it was all with my boyfriend

00:29:17.980 we we just broke up but he was the only one ever on it i don't think for me it was like a reality tv

00:29:24.200 show that's like just stuff that you can't put on actual tv but if people want to pay me to see my

00:29:33.000 dating life of what i'm already doing and then i can just live like on vacation every day all day

00:29:38.940 with my own boyfriend like why would i not do that i'll let you guys come in really quickly let me just

00:29:43.480 i mean can you really consider yourself traditional without making a judgment about what you're doing

00:29:48.980 but can you really consider yourself traditional if you're i do engaged in sex work well traditionalism

00:29:54.020 is not so much more of a it's not my fault you ate the apple it's just not we're all supposed to be

00:29:58.880 naked fucking in caves i don't think that's traditional yeah no it's not really true i mean

00:30:03.740 traditional is not so much like a political belief have you guys ever fucked in a cave just curious

00:30:07.580 no because maybe even the apple so taliban fighters we can't should be i know people who

00:30:15.060 are republican that are not traditional traditionalism is more rooted in like a

00:30:18.680 biblical ideology and it comes from more of a morality standpoint so like would i consider

00:30:23.480 someone doing only fans traditional no not at all i understand that but i am very traditional

00:30:29.980 very conservative how would you consider yourself huge patriot she is well again you're republican

00:30:36.020 but yeah that doesn't mean yeah but it doesn't mean i don't want kids you like rfk

00:30:40.900 actually yeah um well i'm just doing it with one person i was just doing with one person it's just

00:30:50.180 my boyfriend it's like reality tv shows i don't really believe that the way society like first of

00:30:58.040 all who says societal norms are correct i think that society is built up so horribly like we're supposed

00:31:04.860 to be in our roots connected to nature and everyone's just kind of like living in this way

00:31:10.740 that we never were supposed to be intended to live like we're supposed to be like naked living up the

00:31:16.060 land connecting to the universe i don't think i'm doing anything wrong i'm not fucking a bunch of other

00:31:21.640 guys it was just me and my boyfriend and what's more traditional than the oldest profession in the

00:31:26.300 world exactly that's what we're here to do we're here to reproduce right like we're like if you're

00:31:31.480 traditional you're pro-life so like we're here to reproduce we're here to have sex we're here to

00:31:35.140 live off the land but you're not having sex to just have children you're having sex to create content

00:31:39.520 i'm having sex for your only parent dating so much no i'm not doing images anyway i'm doing with one

00:31:45.520 person right thank you for the 50 50 i have a question so i was looking up some research on

00:31:51.980 pornography and the average age of entry for people who use porn not even addictively necessarily but kind

00:31:59.320 of regular use at least is 13 years old so that's typically when you know usually a young boy but

00:32:05.660 sometimes young girls will fall into it or earlier and that's just the stat and you know in utah as

00:32:11.920 an example um they banned porn for underage kids you had to get age verified and the biggest porn company

00:32:18.680 in the world pulled out of utah and said we're not even going to do business there anymore because so

00:32:22.640 many of their clients were underage and they didn't want to have to deal with that

00:32:26.080 so i mean knowing that there are so many young eyes on the internet you know back to the kids

00:32:31.580 because i know you said well you know the kids is one one way you can bring the conversation but

00:32:34.820 there's so many young children on the internet that's up to the parents the parents shouldn't

00:32:39.400 be giving the kids ipads i hate when i go out and i see parents and kids out to dinner and the kids are

00:32:45.840 on ipads and their phones and stuff like i will i would never let my kids have but you're iphone

00:32:51.780 but you're creating pornography and you're saying i'm don't actually what i think though

00:32:57.000 is i have a reality tv show with my boyfriend at the time nax if you want to pay to see it you

00:33:04.040 pay to see it i don't care but it's pornography right i mean it's the same like we have rated our

00:33:09.860 movies we make content that kids aren't supposed to see all the time are we not supposed to make it

00:33:13.900 because they're accessing it like there should be things put in place so that they don't access it

00:33:17.780 and like you i mean if you don't want your kid to go on the internet and by themselves in their

00:33:22.260 bedroom like don't give them access to the tools that let them see those things i don't plan on

00:33:26.400 giving my kid a phone until they're like 16 years old exactly you know so like that's not on exactly

00:33:31.020 how old were you when you first saw porn when i was 11 years old me and my friends found a stack

00:33:36.300 of nudie magazines in a dumpster somehow and we you know took a plastic bin out into the woods and we

00:33:43.280 preserved them in the woods because we couldn't keep them at our houses because we're so young

00:33:47.320 and and you know i don't think that there's any army in the world that could have taken these

00:33:53.140 magazines away from us now kids are going to see what ultimately took it away from us was the rain

00:33:57.220 because it rained and it caused a lot of water damage and the pages were sticking together but i

00:34:01.000 say all that to say that even though obviously i feel like there probably should be rules in place

00:34:06.240 so that an 11 year old can't see porn it's it's difficult for them to see it it also just seems

00:34:11.560 kind of like almost pointless to even try because you know that this is like the most fundamental

00:34:15.720 base thing that a kid is going to search out right so i was illegal to make porn in general

00:34:20.440 no i i mean i think also like as much anti-porn as i am and as much as i would love to see it like

00:34:25.920 completely banned obviously that's not going to happen but i think that there should be somewhat

00:34:29.400 of a middle ground between people who are super anti-porn and people who are pro-porn where at least

00:34:33.260 there should be some sort of age restriction oh i am completely as she said the average age of

00:34:38.520 introduction to pornography i think it's actually but it's not supposed to be and the average age that

00:34:42.420 the child gets the average age that a child gets a smartphone now is about 10 years old

00:34:46.360 so yeah at some point they're going to be introduced to pornography but a lot of these

00:34:49.700 porn websites why are the parents giving 10 years olds yeah but i think you're missing the point

00:34:55.220 no i don't think i am i think parents need a parent better i think your 10 year old my point is more

00:35:01.220 so give your three year old an ipad but my point am i putting something out there in the world that you

00:35:06.420 think is so harmful why would you keep putting it out i don't think what i'm doing is harmful because

00:35:12.140 i it you have to be 18 to see what i'm doing but that's what i'm talking okay this is the thing

00:35:18.200 what happens behind closed doors is always going to happen coke isn't legal everyone does coke okay

00:35:24.840 it's bella finish your thought then we're going to move it's not my fault but this people find a way

00:35:28.760 to do things this goes back to the age for age verification thing that i was talking about that

00:35:33.900 lilo was talking about is these like they you go on the website and they ask you if you're 18 you click

00:35:38.080 yes there's no like genuine like there's no actual age verification that like that's like

00:35:45.540 any child can go on and access pornography so you're saying parents shouldn't give their child

00:35:49.240 screens to be able to even be put in a position to access it but you're providing pornography on

00:35:55.200 your end to be able to children should be outside playing they shouldn't be on ipads they shouldn't

00:36:01.960 be playing video games they shouldn't be on iphones etc to add what you have it's a very counter

00:36:07.200 honestly anything nowadays is so easily accessible whether you give your child a phone or not their

00:36:13.400 friends are gonna have phones so this is the word goes around but why is the solution not really that's

00:36:18.920 not really up to us maybe you need to ask like the owner of only fans to do a better verification

00:36:24.620 the owner of porn hub but they have they have credit card so it's like already got pretty good

00:36:29.200 verification right they have would you guys like start a campaign to demand that only fans and

00:36:34.620 porn hub does that since you yeah i'm fine with that i don't i don't think kids should be watching

00:36:39.820 porn i would you work for like for example utah's law that says that there needs to be real age

00:36:46.720 verification and so porn hub id verification porn hub left yeah would you advocate for that federally

00:36:52.500 yeah like i don't think little kids should be watching certain things but also at the same time

00:36:58.960 people are gonna watch what they're gonna watch people are gonna pay for what they're gonna pay

00:37:02.920 for but it's not me it's gonna be someone else so i'm gonna make my money no offense but if you

00:37:08.920 could but i'm super but i'm super would you would you i've been pilates instructor i have two different

00:37:14.420 real estate licenses i've been the general manager of my pilates studio i've been a whole bunch of

00:37:20.840 things i have multiple different degrees this i live life like i'm on vacation every single day

00:37:26.300 i make more money than all my friends do and all i had to do was just open up to the world about who

00:37:33.120 me and my boyfriend were and we're supposed to live off the land we're supposed to be in love

00:37:38.260 girls are supposed to embrace their femininity men are supposed to embrace their masculinity i don't

00:37:43.080 think i'm doing anything wrong christy if if you could do something else and make the same amount

00:37:48.400 of money would you no because i'd have to spend a lot more time doing it okay if you could do

00:37:53.460 something else and not spend more time what would it be what would it be if you could do

00:37:57.060 well we're making a podcast okay if your podcast blew up and replaced your only fans revenue i would

00:38:02.340 i would continue doing both because i'll double the revenue okay so i'm not too bad it sounds a little

00:38:08.380 contradictory because on the one hand i understand it's very controversial and a lot of people

00:38:12.500 don't get it like on the one hand you're saying it creates a lot of harm and you don't want this

00:38:16.380 for kids and it kind of i don't think it's controversial at all but you're also saying

00:38:20.800 a lot of kids access it and that no i'm not saying a lot of kids access it i'm single um they do

00:38:26.000 parents need to parent better parents are also sending children to public schools in liberal states

00:38:33.260 and they're pushing transgender shit but do you think it's fair all down their throat do you think

00:38:38.540 there are literally there are this is what i care about in a lot of elementary schools

00:38:46.120 there are books in the library all right we're gonna we're not gonna talk about okay we're not

00:38:51.260 gonna that's way worse i think that's way worse that's way worse i just have one question do you

00:38:55.580 think it's fair to demand the standard of parents when we're creating this very pornified society with

00:39:02.000 tons of i think yes to demand that parents can somehow magically insulate their children from

00:39:07.600 the extreme pornification that's accelerating in our society the only responsibility parents have

00:39:14.100 is to parent their children protect their children should we as a society help parents

00:39:19.920 children can't get a get air get an an apple phone get a computer they cannot pay for those

00:39:28.020 things themselves unless their parents are providing it but should we parents yes i think parents need

00:39:33.240 to parent better ability should we take responsibility to help families and parents at large

00:39:38.580 do better for their kids by not adding to the toxicity out there that is you know what my fans aren't kids

00:39:45.320 my fans are because i know who they are because i i'm in there every day talking to these have you

00:39:51.520 seen their ids i know who they are they're unhappy married men that are afraid to get

00:39:57.980 divorced because they made a commitment and they're scared and they they don't know what to do

00:40:04.320 and they're not they're not being satisfied but do you think it's healthy for them do you think it's

00:40:10.160 healthy for those men to be i do not situation cheating no i i i don't then why but it's not

00:40:17.320 but this is the thing financially they should not have entered into that commitment in the first place

00:40:23.080 that is a bigger issue way above me i understand it's not going to stop with me but let me marriage

00:40:29.420 is a big final thought isabella then why would you commit to a man or a woman if you weren't fully

00:40:36.940 committed i i agree with that but why would we i think we each have a personal responsibility to

00:40:42.420 do good right and so if it's not if it's hurting kids if it's hurting couples that are on the rocks

00:40:48.660 if it's hurting addicts if it's hurting these different people why would we continue to be a

00:40:53.540 part of it no but it's not hurting them it's them choosing everyone has choices in life of course but

00:40:59.900 every single person can choose are we helping or hurting those people that have they're gonna do it

00:41:04.600 no matter what if i'm in it if they're in it they're gonna do it no matter what it sounds like

00:41:09.260 what a drug dealer could say you know they're gonna do drugs no matter what everyone's gonna do drugs no

00:41:13.380 matter what whether it's legal or not everyone's gonna do all of those things go ahead do you think

00:41:18.440 so hold on hold on let let i just want to finish this thought um you know you say that you're more

00:41:23.520 so traditional and i know you'd like talked a little bit earlier about parents should parent better

00:41:27.620 um but i guess the same thing could maybe someone could say the same thing about your parents in

00:41:31.740 the industry that you are in and you know to put the blame on the parents for giving their child

00:41:36.500 access to screens even though some of them may not even be accessing it through their own screens it

00:41:40.760 could be done through a library it could be done through their friend's phone it could be done

00:41:43.420 anywhere so to put the blame on the parents but then have zero accountability on your part be like

00:41:48.600 oh well parents need to parent better but i'm going to continue to fuel out pornography as much as i want

00:41:53.660 because love first of all first of all love is unconditional my dad's my business manager

00:41:58.460 your dad manages he's not my only fans manage manager he's my business manager he looks over all my

00:42:05.700 contracts but second of all there are way way way worse things that i can't talk about because he's

00:42:11.880 not you in school libraries way worse things in school libraries wait i'm a i'm a what i said you

00:42:20.320 can't i said i can't mention you don't want me to talk about the books in school libraries well

00:42:25.400 that's online how we're getting to this you made your point let me just make my my point adam said he

00:42:30.700 was exposed to porn at 11 i was exposed to porn at six we disagreed that kids shouldn't consume i

00:42:35.800 wasn't let me finish my thoughts it's like saying i know kids are overdosing from fentanyl but they're

00:42:42.720 going to consume fentanyl anyway might as well provide all we can and i understand what you're

00:42:46.660 doing is different but it does seem like you're conflating ideologies you're talking about

00:42:50.320 conservative values we're preserving something between a man and a woman in the privacy of their

00:42:54.720 home and you're saying well we should just screw in a cave there's a very contradictory views like how

00:43:00.340 can you say that like you have a traditional view of marriage but then say your your only fans is

00:43:04.860 filled with married unhappy men you don't think that's not my fault that they shouldn't have got

00:43:09.620 married that's why i'm 33 and not married because i take it very seriously but this is the problem

00:43:14.460 because it's so easy for people to consume and to go off in another direction instead of fixing

00:43:19.080 their marriages it's exploitive those men need therapy but yeah they should get there but you're

00:43:25.860 filling that void instead of having them help yeah but so are bartenders so are personal trainers when

00:43:31.700 i was a bartender they would use me as a therapist when i was a personal trainer they would use me as a

00:43:37.680 therapist it's not my problem that they're not going to therapy there's a difference there's a

00:43:42.360 there's a difference no i'm not as a pilates instructor i'm enabling someone telling me

00:43:47.900 their problems i know only fans there's a difference but i but i've been pornography all

00:43:52.800 those other things there's a difference between therapy and pornography there's a difference between

00:43:57.260 therapy and talking to somebody about i'm having these issues in my marriage how do i fix them and

00:44:01.460 going off and cheating on your wife behind her back there's a huge difference you put the blame on

00:44:05.560 everybody else the parent should parent better they should pick better partners when in reality you

00:44:09.800 have a big part of that blame and that these men are going to you okay so uh i want to just bring

00:44:16.760 it back to you guys really quick when it comes to the scene that uh you did with jason was this a

00:44:22.440 one-time thing for you guys are you guys looking to do something again or we're still communicating

00:44:28.220 about how this might play out in the future we're definitely doing more stuff with other guys as well

00:44:33.020 as other girls but we're moving a little bit slow just because the whole experience the media cycle

00:44:38.680 was so insane but the next thing's probably gonna be adam the other guy and me together which i'm

00:44:43.200 really excited about yeah okay yeah can i actually could i recommend a few guys for your consideration

00:44:48.460 oh yes is that throw some names out there for sure okay cool nick uh if you can pull up the first one

00:44:54.820 it's the instagrams by the way nick you gotta you gotta screen the super chats you can't be pulling that

00:45:01.140 no i like the anti-semitic one that was yeah that was that was yeah disavow the fucking super chat

00:45:09.720 the fucking adl is gonna make another fucking or not sorry excuse me no no no it was the uh

00:45:16.340 media matters media matters made they got me a couple times too recently yeah so we we do not

00:45:22.080 disavow the fucking super chat we're not nick didn't know not to pull it up i'm sure media matters is

00:45:28.120 gonna be fucking on it it's the uh instagram the second one yeah it's not no no not the video it's the

00:45:37.720 instagram profiles

00:45:38.820 it's the it's the one right after the uh

00:45:51.020 uh it's the dudes it's the guys

00:45:56.860 uh so i would like to this is a good dear friend of mine his name's zach uh can you scroll down

00:46:10.560 because didn't i see this guy in the uh the documentary about uh the johnny depp trial

00:46:17.440 oh yeah he was all of the night do you know how big his penis is i think it's huge then i think

00:46:23.900 it's giant perfect um his name's zach he's a very popular twitch streamer goes by asmongold um he

00:46:31.060 looks tall you can scroll up to the top nice i don't think he's got is he you don't think so

00:46:35.500 he looks like he probably has bad genetics to be totally honest i don't know wow okay i mean has

00:46:39.700 he ever excelled in any like sporting events or anything have you he's a pro gamer world of warcraft

00:46:46.500 like he's really good do you think oh well i mean just to be serious about yeah we're really only

00:46:51.020 technically interested in working with adult professionals because you'd be surprised at

00:46:55.440 how difficult uh getting and maintaining an erection on camera really is especially for people

00:47:00.240 who haven't been uh you know through the ringer of kind of learning how to do this so i mean i think

00:47:05.920 he's good i would love to see what he's got to offer like could you know could you at least consider

00:47:10.260 it yeah well if he wants to dm me his his his wiener then i could definitely give him some sort of

00:47:15.840 review sure a lot of my friends seem to have a hard time wrapping their head around the fact

00:47:19.980 that i need to be able to have like an objective opinion about a man's penis that's just part of

00:47:24.880 the job i need to be able to say yeah he has a great one his his sucks his is not a factor etc

00:47:30.860 so you have like veto on not even necessarily for her but because you know we film these sort of like

00:47:36.460 orgies on camera and stuff we do like a live stream we're actually doing one on thursday uh on the

00:47:41.300 plug talk youtube it's basically like this but then there's another room with an only fans

00:47:44.820 stream with like an orgy going on so it would basically be like this but some of the people

00:47:49.580 could leave and go hook up in the other room um and so in that case you know i need to be able to

00:47:55.120 like look at a guy and say he's got a great dick and a lot of people just have a hard time wrapping

00:48:01.000 their head around the fact that i could be a heterosexual male with really a perfect record of

00:48:06.160 heterosexuality and i i have somebody else too oh yeah yeah i don't know if you guys know felix

00:48:19.960 xqc he might be hot debatably i love blondes with long hair but he looks a little liberal wait till

00:48:26.340 you hear him talk it depends on like wait till you see the way he sits he was like everything about

00:48:31.320 him is so he's a dear friend of mine do you think he could be considered from a cloud perspective yes

00:48:40.580 it would sell really well it's good to get your friends into this business what's that you think

00:48:45.160 it's good to get your friends into that business well i they asked they asked me i'm just doing

00:48:50.540 them a favor to kind of you know is it a favor is it a favor who did they vote for that i actually

00:48:57.400 i think it would be a burden is it a spiral a bad spiral it's hard to say you know it's hard to say

00:49:03.380 republican or a democrat i'm not sure because if he's a republican okay he's a reaction streamer

00:49:11.240 last one last one and then for the consideration uh his this is frederique um scroll all the way down

00:49:21.640 he's a chad world of warcraft gamer he's a chad like uh he's an actual chad like how we have to take our

00:49:30.660 shoes off because of karen down sword one uh that's him with thunder fury i don't know if that has a

00:49:36.360 what is thunder fury it's uh a sword from what's the world of warcraft legendary sword uh very few

00:49:46.620 people you know you gotta you gotta go into molten core you gotta get the drops from uh baron geddon

00:49:52.200 and magmadar how much time do you still spend playing that i don't play it anymore i used to

00:49:56.820 it seems like i'm too busy it just seems so addictive i don't think masculine men play video

00:50:02.460 i really don't i really don't if you play video games that's a red flag yeah and not in the red pill way

00:50:12.280 in like the liberal blue pill way yeah uh isabella you recently sorry you're just gonna move past

00:50:19.300 that i think if men play video games it's like the it's such a turn off i feel like more masculine

00:50:25.620 you're gonna get a lot of games i don't care that's just like when they put on their headphones

00:50:32.600 and they're like talking to 12 year olds i'm like that's actually here's a question is it a turn

00:50:37.680 off if a guy watches a lot of movies what the fuck is the difference oh there's a huge difference

00:50:44.260 you're playing with like 12 year olds in different countries like it's like not all games are

00:50:48.220 multiplayer it's way more hours than a movie yeah in a movie you might be cuddling with your girl

00:50:54.060 but i also don't love the fact of watching tv and movies in general when you could be being

00:50:59.660 active doing something on a nice date together but watching movies versus play video is completely

00:51:04.900 different yeah no they're both like you're living in an alternate you're sitting on the couch you've

00:51:09.460 got a big black screen in front of you there's something playing on it and one you're just

00:51:12.700 observing and one you're controlling i think i do agree there's a version of playing video games

00:51:18.680 that's basically like me sinking into my own depression and playing fall guys for eight hours

00:51:23.040 yes that is bad and that's but also it's way worse than porn though i've had transcendent experiences

00:51:28.680 you ever played final fantasy 7 you ever play zelda no it'll change your goddamn life

00:51:33.220 better than any star wars don't count on the rings i don't care it's better that's supposed

00:51:37.100 to be 18 years or older that's like what i asked guys when i first meet them if they can

00:51:41.180 i say do you play video games for themselves maybe they just have a little bit of skill you think

00:51:45.240 video games is worse than porn post malone plays video games on his off days he's way more successful

00:51:49.980 than anybody in this room one thing one thing video games don't have an age requirement porn does

00:51:55.100 have an age requirement without any age verification so technically is there really an age requirement

00:52:00.980 but this is the thing but this is the thing porn does have an age requirement and video games don't

00:52:06.280 and i don't think anyone should be playing video games but why are we playing porn video games

00:52:10.900 because they're both forms of entertainment wait but there's porn in video games nowadays

00:52:14.720 sure yeah okay so hold on just just to be clear so for you two if a guy plays video games

00:52:21.800 that's a big deal breaker oh absolutely let me tell you this absolutely i want to tell you this

00:52:26.980 the way that you feel about men who play video games is the way that men feel about the fact that

00:52:32.220 you guys do only fans i don't do only fans she doesn't do only fans she doesn't do only fans

00:52:37.240 why was my ex-boyfriend and like why was my ex-boyfriend fine with it why is every guy i've

00:52:43.820 talking to fine with it like probably he's not my ex because of like political or only fan reasons

00:52:52.920 he's my ex because i knew that my intuition was saying he wasn't the one he wanted believe me if it

00:52:59.820 was up to him we'd still be together 92 percent of relationships that are polyamorous he's so

00:53:04.840 we're outside of the relationship and he's trying to pay me for blowjobs now 92 because i mean what

00:53:10.360 does that say how he views you i would never accept a payment for a blowjob i understand that but you're

00:53:15.740 trying to say oh he's your ex because you do only dance he's not my ex because i do only dance

00:53:19.840 he's my ex because i don't want him in my life over so you're attracting negative men that

00:53:25.120 continually well i'm an empath so i naturally so you naturally attract toxic people well yeah

00:53:31.800 they're hot as fuck i think when you do only fans and that's kind of like what you do i think yeah

00:53:35.640 there's maybe like a degeneracy factor that those are the people that are attracted i didn't do only

00:53:40.020 fans when i met him no but that's not what i'm saying i'm saying that the men who are attracted to

00:53:43.900 you want to be with you are not going to really be like a high value man i use i was on million

00:53:48.340 i don't believe yeah i mean you could be on whatever show you want but you're not but you're

00:53:53.200 not like that hey stop interrupting her let her speak go ahead i don't even remember my thought

00:53:58.460 i mean i think you finished it i don't think i like actually interrupted that much we have one chat

00:54:04.080 here we have you said why why am i i think you're hey quiet we have big black clock here uh oh look

00:54:11.840 it's lena and her wife adam 22 do you have a response very very tricky you switched it up

00:54:19.000 adam the plug one of 22 all right there we go there we go um so i can't believe you just made

00:54:26.020 a hundred dollars for him saying that that that was it that was it isabella you had a maybe this

00:54:32.080 was a while ago you had an incident with a trump flag were you on a date when that happened no it was

00:54:38.020 not on a date it was a long time ago that was like 2019 oh okay long time ago yeah i was working with

00:54:43.500 a company and there was a women's march the same day that there was uh amy coney barrett confirmation

00:54:49.180 and so they kind of that didn't go well so you got like jumped or something yeah i got like assaulted

00:54:54.600 you had a trump hat or i had a trump flag yeah and so i was assaulted by the women from the women's

00:55:00.260 part was it recorded no it's not no did they catch them uh i don't think so i don't think so

00:55:08.340 no okay that's why you should always be live streaming because you could have gone viral as

00:55:11.640 hell if that was on tape huge um so something that's kind of recently uh been making the rounds

00:55:21.300 and adam you've actually commented on this i think on your tiktok and twitter

00:55:24.460 uh logan paul is dating a woman named nina agdal and logan paul has an upcoming fight with uh

00:55:33.460 dylan danis and dylan danis has kind of ruthless ruthlessly uh on twitter been essentially just

00:55:41.780 posting photos of logan paul's fiance uh with with other men or in some of them seem rather platonic

00:55:51.320 some of them seem you know romantic romantic um and then there's some videos too of her saying

00:55:57.840 some i suppose sexual sexual things um let's just really quick just to give people context nick can

00:56:04.400 you pull up uh can you pull up just the instagrams really quick starting with logan i'm sure most

00:56:10.460 people know logan logan paul he's uh hot as fuck disavow um can you pull it up he's super hot the

00:56:19.340 wikipedia's wikipedia's he says we're living in the matrix uh so we have uh logan paul is saying

00:56:29.280 we live in the matrix i think you're thinking of angie tate okay we have uh no because he's not

00:56:35.340 he may have said it as well okay uh so logan paul famous influencer etc etc he's 28 next

00:56:41.420 uh nina agdahl uh 31 so she is what three years his uh senior and she's like a model and then dylan

00:56:55.020 danis no photo of him there but uh he's a uh like jujitsu guy they have a boxing match coming up here

00:57:00.760 very soon in the uk can you pull up his uh twitter we're gonna just react to a couple of uh

00:57:05.360 of his i hope it it might be i don't know if he's got any let's scroll down there's so many

00:57:12.720 it's a lot oh my god by the way he was the first person to dm me when that that video with jason

00:57:18.460 came out yeah it was the first one in my dm and he tried to use the like we're both armenian thing

00:57:23.380 as a way to get something i guess yeah wait he dm'd me yeah just to say hi or well to point out that

00:57:29.280 they're both armenian yeah but you and him are both armenian yeah but it's like that was his entryway

00:57:34.260 to try to talk to me he unsent it after we started talking shit but yeah are you gonna have he wanted

00:57:39.200 to try to get on the pod or oh that's a good idea i haven't i've never tried to get him on the pod but

00:57:43.920 i i for sure would yeah okay so he just dm'd you like to say there's guys will dm all sorts of weird

00:57:50.760 things to try to shoot their shot oh yes i believe that was the entryway to shooting his shot yeah i

00:57:55.200 mean he knows i assume he knows that you're married so yeah i'm sure he doesn't care these jujitsu

00:57:59.380 guys they don't care right okay i don't know all right um let's pull it back up uh scroll down

00:58:06.160 just keep scrolling uh let's see this is from all the craziest to keep scrolling that's a photo

00:58:13.620 today but uh so he's posting a bunch of photos that's kale sonnen nina agdahl which is logan's

00:58:23.160 fiance keep scrolling down some of these are clearly some of these are photoshopped i think that one

00:58:28.600 there's a community note on it uh nina agdahl oh wait stop it oh no yeah i gotta be careful a

00:58:37.440 little bit with that wait scroll back up scroll up a little bit uh great up up up up up up i guess

00:58:44.880 that's nina with uh one of her exes scroll down keep scrolling down and these are just he's blasting

00:58:51.520 them okay yeah some of these might be a little uh i don't know if i'm a i'm a x-rated on here i don't

00:59:01.220 think so in any case uh play that video play the video right there oh what does she say

00:59:08.320 yeah you gotta reasons like if you're just like i don't want to you anymore

00:59:13.360 say that don't come up with reasons like if you're just like in any case he's posting a lot of

00:59:20.080 photos with nina with other men there's a couple videos of her where she's you know like that one

00:59:27.280 making some sexual comments there's one where she mentioned that she was at a stadium and gave a guy a

00:59:33.560 blowy at a stadium or something i don't know basically just posting photos of uh her with some

00:59:41.480 dudes and some kind of perhaps as viewed by some people unflattering statements she made

00:59:47.120 um so adam you actually we have a video from adam here

00:59:51.740 yeah full screen all right so logan paul has an upcoming boxing match against this

00:59:59.940 dylan danis guy and dylan's been going on a little bit of a campaign trying to embarrass logan

01:00:05.160 by pointing out all the guys that his now fiance has spent time with before logan ah

01:00:11.120 this is ja rule dylan i don't know how hip-hop fluent you are but this is one of the goats

01:00:17.320 what's love got to do with it huh i'm not always there when you call but i'm always on time

01:00:23.620 uh dylan this is one of the goats if his girl has actually spent time in the presence of ja rule

01:00:30.840 then he should be proud of it personally i think the more men that your woman has spent time with

01:00:35.880 before you get her the more desirable she becomes how about that dylan also why was dylan danis like

01:00:41.240 the first guy in my girl's dms as soon as she started to go viral with the jason love thing

01:00:45.740 uh i guess he says he's armenian or whatever but uh europe her so let's just throw that out there

01:00:50.820 can i add can i just say something wait wasn't ja rule the one that also went with the fire festival

01:00:57.360 yes yeah thank you for mentioning that that's very confusing to me it was important to mention

01:01:04.700 that it's relevant it's relevant i don't really trust shop rule i'm not gonna lie so obviously

01:01:11.760 you're kind of joking a little bit you're hamming it up but no but i do like when a woman has some

01:01:17.600 miles on her you know that doesn't bother me one bit what every photo she's ever taken with another

01:01:22.140 dude means that she's like not worthy of of a marriage anymore like maybe some of those are

01:01:27.660 relationships maybe some of them weren't but like who fucking cares she's 31 years old of course she's

01:01:32.080 gonna have experiences with other men i kind of doubt that she banged ja rule also logan has fucked a

01:01:36.840 bunch of my friends no one's talking about that like i mean i i get that it doesn't matter when men do

01:01:42.060 it but like you know it's like everyone knows that she's had a bunch of relationships she's witnessed it

01:01:47.100 she's seen him fuck her friends right i mean i think lena you're on to something lena you're on to

01:01:51.840 something in that you know i i saw i heard about that whole kind of kirkoffel happening on twitter

01:01:57.060 between the two and i do think that it is um inconsistent for a man to demand sexual purity

01:02:04.660 from a woman and not demand it from himself and i think that we're seeing that a little bit because

01:02:09.820 it's like okay this woman supposedly has slept with other men i mean there's no like i don't know

01:02:14.200 about proof of that but they're saying that she has but it's not like dylan is saying hey i want to

01:02:18.720 stand for you know self-control and i'm going to be a man instead they're claiming that part of being

01:02:23.500 a man is being promiscuous that's typically the thought process and i think that's totally untrue

01:02:28.080 i mean i think part of being a man and part of being a virtuous woman is total self-control and

01:02:33.800 directing your energy towards good things and choosing good things and in a relationship that is

01:02:39.680 includes choosing fidelity and choosing honor and choosing commitment so i kind of agree with your

01:02:44.340 taking that i think it's inconsistent of him to be doing that when he himself isn't trying to live

01:02:49.140 that way at least that he hasn't said that or he isn't you need to kind of date people to figure

01:02:52.940 out like what you are into and what you're willing to put up with and not put up with i know you said

01:02:57.420 love is a choice so in your position there could be an arranged marriage at 13 and those people just

01:03:02.420 need it wouldn't be a choice but it wouldn't be a choice if it was arranged but if they committed to

01:03:07.280 get married to each other and they do get married then they have to still choose to love each other

01:03:10.900 if they fully choose it i don't think they could choose at 13 or 15. okay so let's say it was 18

01:03:14.960 and they just they're like let's get hitched because we want to fuck yeah well i don't know what happens

01:03:18.860 then if you get hitched just to have sex i think that's going to be a problem for you you should get

01:03:23.320 married to yes you want to be intimate with the person you want to give your body to them and receive

01:03:26.900 their body but it has to be more than just physicality it's about your spirituality it's about

01:03:31.180 your lifelong plan of what we're going to do together we're going to create something beautiful

01:03:34.800 together a family so marriage isn't just about sex sex is super important but it's not just about sex

01:03:40.540 for example like if one of you had an injury right and you god forbid couldn't have sex

01:03:45.140 would that make you the other person love the other person less no no would you still stay together

01:03:51.100 yeah what kind of injury an injury that an injury that prevented at least for an indefinite amount

01:03:58.560 of time you being able to be sexually intimate i here's here's the scenario i'll give you at least

01:04:02.280 six months here's here's the scenario but after six months you'd cut her off i am out of here no i'm

01:04:06.800 just kidding i'm gonna hold you down i have a fleshlight i have a scenario for you adam but

01:04:10.360 that's beautiful you mean you'd stay together regardless of like your physical problems you

01:04:14.920 would be committed to each other i think you'd leave me if i got fat hell no we got a baby together

01:04:19.000 i'm sticking around no matter what credit to uh patrice and neil on this let's say uh lena

01:04:24.980 is on the train and there's a terrible train accident and she loses the pussy in the train

01:04:31.300 accident um you know she's catastrophic train accident right i mean luckily for her she's got

01:04:41.540 a mouth she's got an asshole and she's got these great armpits that realistically they secrete a lot

01:04:47.880 of uh fluid throughout the day right now i just i just found that out the hard way but um no yeah

01:04:53.840 for sure like especially you know when she had a baby and you know i'm watching the fucking doctor

01:05:00.220 slice her stomach open and pull the baby out like the lion king and i'm just witnessing that and just

01:05:05.740 realizing like oh i am sticking around like it does not matter that they're ripping her apart i could

01:05:11.680 see her intestines they're pulling the child out of her i'm on board like and and that was you know

01:05:17.680 an important moment for me to realize like have you thought about like it sounds like you've got

01:05:22.200 a beautiful commitment for each other have you thought about retiring and not continuing to sleep

01:05:27.120 with other people and just being completely exclusive with each other not just in your emotions but in

01:05:32.300 your body which i think is just as an important just as important as emotions i think probably within

01:05:37.320 let's say like three to four years that's probably quite likely is that we might uh i think okay but i

01:05:45.820 think even if we were tired with having sex on camera for money we would probably still do

01:05:50.400 explorative things in our personal life because that's kind of how we got into the porn thing was

01:05:54.500 we knew that we liked sharing our energy with a third person and that when that person even left the

01:06:00.300 room our energy between us was actually a lot stronger yeah and i figured that out when i first

01:06:05.000 moved to california i had this girlfriend that i was seeing and we drove down to tijuana and uh we

01:06:09.840 ended up like banging some of the strippers at the strip club called hong kong um and just us like

01:06:15.460 we had that communal experience of banging strippers together and i swear to god the rest of our time

01:06:21.500 together we were so close and then once i started seeing her and we kind of started having those

01:06:26.980 experiences like i think you would really be surprised at how the level of trust that it takes

01:06:31.880 to involve somebody else in your relationship now i'm not saying it's always easy or smooth because

01:06:36.340 obviously sometimes you'll have girls you know lying on you or like you know creating weird

01:06:41.000 narratives or just doing strange stuff in general but i do think that when it works it can be like a

01:06:46.880 very uh transcendent experience for a couple you're kind of making the point which i agree with that

01:06:51.780 it's very high risk right like there's it can get very toxic quickly like even the guy that you were

01:06:57.660 talking about earlier you're not really sure if you're texting with him like after the scene that

01:07:01.760 you did there was a lot for everybody i think like i'm not we don't walk around talking about

01:07:06.280 what we do with sex and trying to encourage other people to do it you know like i'm not saying

01:07:10.660 go let your wife sleep with someone else it's really good for your relationship you definitely

01:07:14.020 do it i don't think it's for everybody i don't think everybody can handle it we can only do this

01:07:17.880 because our relationship is in a really good place if our relationship was in a bad place

01:07:21.820 threesomes everything's off the table because we're not connected so we can't open up ourselves to

01:07:27.340 somebody else but your most important i would i'm going to guess your most important sort of focus

01:07:31.300 is protecting your relationship yeah absolutely okay so if that's the case

01:07:35.620 why would you kind of constantly put your relationship on the foot of on the edge of

01:07:40.660 the cliff again and again and again the reward is is like the risk is there but when you actually

01:07:46.520 have the experience it makes our connection stronger when that person leaves what if you

01:07:51.660 just fully invested in each other and you're like we're gonna find the highs and the lows together

01:07:57.220 and keep this exclusive to us have you considered that have you tried that seven years i feel like

01:08:01.740 we've probably felt a large percentage of the highs and lows you know but also like what we do actually

01:08:06.760 like keeping that intimate for yourself like have you given that a year like we're gonna just do

01:08:10.940 we're just gonna be together cut out other people this is just for us again or maybe for the first time

01:08:16.660 it's not for the first time i mean uh we've had we've gone many months without doing things with

01:08:21.140 other people but it's not like a huge deal to us at this point like honestly even when i met her and i was

01:08:26.980 still single like i was first starting to sort of like get to the level of clout when i started

01:08:31.780 seeing her that i was having random girls coming to my dms and want to like come over with their

01:08:36.520 friend and hook up and you know when i started seeing her it was almost like kind of hard for me

01:08:41.500 to let go of the filthy lifestyle that i had been living but now the perspective i have on like group

01:08:47.480 sex and stuff is that i absolutely don't give a shit i if i would be totally fine being in a

01:08:51.480 relationship with her i've offered him to go sleep with girls without me like if i have a sore throat i'm

01:08:56.160 like i don't want to go to set today and he's like no no no let's just cancel like i'd rather do it

01:08:59.720 with you i'd rather play pokemon go or something yeah yeah i mean i so the statistic is over 90

01:09:05.160 percent of uh non-monogamous relationships end up in separation or divorce 92 92 percent so you know

01:09:13.520 it's kind of that edge of the cliff thing right but it sounds like they really it sounds like they

01:09:17.540 shouldn't have gotten married let me just finish for a second it sounds like you really value each

01:09:21.140 other you've got a beautiful uh trust and like love for each other and you have a child and you

01:09:26.340 want to have more children so have you thought about you know even separate from the straight

01:09:30.140 up morality question which you know we're on the side of like this is not moral this is hurting

01:09:33.380 other people actively the addicts the young kids the broken couples but even just for the sake of your

01:09:38.340 own marriage but okay we thought about we want to protect we put so much stress on our relationship

01:09:42.760 like in the sense that us or her sleeping with another guy was like basically one of the biggest

01:09:49.140 stories in the whole country or world over the course of the past couple months and i could say

01:09:53.620 that it put very little stress on our relationship because it just really wasn't that big a deal to

01:09:58.340 us especially just because you know we do porn it's business to us you know it was decided upon in a

01:10:04.240 business sense i do think that honestly it might put more stress on our relationship if we were to have

01:10:09.120 just done some sort of like sex party hookup thing that might be a little bit more treacherous in

01:10:14.160 terms of our relationship i think the reason why we were comfortable expanding our relationship and

01:10:19.040 that we can do orgy type content and all that kind of stuff and it's not that that big a deal or

01:10:24.520 that intimidating to us is because i've been with her for seven years i have no doubt that she's never

01:10:29.640 cheated on me i have no trust issues with her at all you know we're like completely comfortable with

01:10:35.620 each other so that's why we felt like it wasn't that big a deal and that's probably why we feel

01:10:40.260 comfortable doing it again even after having been so massively in the news over the past couple months

01:10:45.300 adam you don't see the increase in opening a relationship up to risk though we're just giving

01:10:50.780 you statistics 90 of relationships you guys are functionally in a non-monogamous relationship even

01:10:55.400 though privately you may not be it seems like you guys have something special and it seems like you

01:11:00.000 guys have a child and a beautiful family you decided to get married you decided to say the vows and it

01:11:05.140 seems like there's this roaring going on inside of you guys where you have certain values and you have

01:11:10.400 certain things that you want for your kids in this unit yet at the same time i'm i'm just perplexed

01:11:15.300 by the motivation i don't see those things to be contradictory that we want to have a great life

01:11:19.340 for our kids and stuff and then we also are willing to you know do i'm talking about for your own union

01:11:23.900 like like it seems like this increases the likelihood of this potentially ending which i i don't want for

01:11:29.180 you guys i don't we've never really discussed it in those terms i don't think of it that way and i think

01:11:34.120 if anything it kind of made our sex life a little bit more exciting for a period of time just the fact that

01:11:39.880 i had a little bit of competition a little bit more of a reason to go hard you know and i don't

01:11:44.020 necessarily think that's the worst thing i do have a question though so if your last thing on this

01:11:48.080 because i feel like we've been dogpiling a little bit sorry adam here but um if like going off and

01:11:53.060 like sleeping with other people is not out of bounds with your marriage what would you consider

01:11:56.820 something out of bounds of your marriage well it actually is out of bounds with our marriage like

01:12:00.620 we we only have sex with other people on camera but i think if we ever opened up our

01:12:07.060 relationship to anything more like we we don't we want emotional monogamy and it's physical non-monogamy

01:12:13.500 that we have and like so for us cheating would be like dating other people but also doing something

01:12:19.780 that we didn't previously discuss like we have a calendar of all the girls we're gonna have a

01:12:22.980 threesome with if adam decided he was gonna go fuck a girl that it wasn't on the calendar and i didn't

01:12:26.460 know about it that's cheating yeah 100 yeah like her doing that scene with the other guy like there

01:12:31.620 was no betrayal of trust it was just content which i feel like those statistics of like 92 percent of

01:12:37.600 people in polyamorous relationships or whatever they break up it's like it's probably not necessarily

01:12:42.480 including because like we know a ton of porn couples who do stuff with other people and they do it on

01:12:47.920 camera and it either helps their relationship or it seems like it's just kind of a non-factor which i

01:12:53.540 would kind of put us in that box have any been married like 50 years do you think they make it that

01:12:57.860 long i mean there's not people who are 70 in porn so but like after you never say i don't think you

01:13:02.800 have to be in porn but i know after i know in that lifestyle at least a few couples who are in their

01:13:08.120 late 40s who have many kids and a happy marriage so uh let's try to bring it back to uh the

01:13:14.640 logan paul and dylan danis thing so uh i guess a couple questions here one do you guys think that

01:13:23.280 dylan has gone and what i would like to go around the table fully so we can give everyone a chance to

01:13:27.440 answer do you think that dylan danis is going too far by posting these photos of logan paul's fiance with

01:13:36.380 various other men and um do you take uh quarrel with uh he's dylan danis is saying that she's been

01:13:48.680 with 75 guys before logan and a lot of people are arguing well logan's he's a successful guy attractive

01:13:56.320 guy um could he get somebody who's had less previous sexual partners maybe that's not part

01:14:04.080 of the calculus for him in any case thank you flan life appreciate it um do you uh do you think that

01:14:13.600 body count matters wait so we'll start with you and then we'll go around the table i think when it

01:14:20.960 comes to these fight promos there's probably nothing off the table people are free to promote

01:14:25.680 however they want but i think it's kind of just stupid that he's going after his fiance instead of

01:14:31.220 him for the fight um i don't think her value isn't at all diminished by 75 or 100 or a thousand guys

01:14:37.760 i i believe logan is a smart guy and i believe he's dated many women and he's decided like this is the

01:14:43.740 woman he loves regardless of any of those factors like okay let's say she's a virgin but she has like

01:14:48.720 a super shit personality like you know who's to say one is better than the other um i don't think

01:14:53.820 body count should matter even though people play so much importance in it i mean yeah it's stupid

01:14:59.440 i i like dylan doing it from the perspective of like promoting a boxing match trolling that kind of

01:15:05.340 stuff i've been enjoying it if it wasn't in the lead up to a boxing match i would just think it was

01:15:10.700 just gross and just really misogynistic and just kind of lame um for me though if i'm if i'm logan

01:15:17.500 paul i mean that girl i don't know anything about her besides the fact that she's very beautiful and

01:15:21.560 seems like she's quite successful and i mean there's probably a reason why uh all these other

01:15:26.620 successful dudes wanted to spend time with her at some point aside from just her looking good i don't

01:15:31.600 really like see purity as being a big part of why i would want to be with a girl like now i can

01:15:37.360 understand the awkwardness of the fact that you know if you're in the same world as someone and

01:15:43.440 you start dating them and then you know they've had sex with a bunch of your friends or whatever

01:15:46.760 that could be kind of awkward but at the same time i mean you got to look at all the successful

01:15:52.100 dudes out there like if you're a travis scott wife dub kylie jenner who at the very least has had

01:15:57.260 sex with tyga shout out tyga and you know probably dozens of other dudes and it's like he didn't

01:16:03.740 choose this is like the most successful dude in the world he didn't choose to go out and wife up

01:16:07.520 some girl who's got you know one body or two bodies or whatever he went out there and got

01:16:11.440 a girl who'd actually been really like living her life and having experiences and stuff and i i think

01:16:16.720 that the sort of traditional you know like a red pill idea that you want to find a girl that's got you

01:16:23.400 know less than five bodies like i feel like most successful dudes don't actually seem like they

01:16:29.220 invest a lot of mental energy into that myself included your take um if i'm dating someone yeah

01:16:37.800 they're not gonna fuck someone else they're not gonna fuck anyone but me like i am totally into

01:16:43.480 monogamy um but like i said earlier it's about the ratio not the number and when it's people in the

01:16:51.380 public eye like this they have a lot of opportunities and they their number might seem higher compared to a

01:16:58.820 lot of people that don't have nearly as many opportunities so i haven't i don't think it has

01:17:04.140 anything to do with through your number has everything to do with your ratio and the opportunities that

01:17:09.720 you're choosing to take or not take but if you are in a relationship yeah like i'm if i'm dating a man

01:17:17.100 he's not fucking anyone else with me thousand percent do you do uh bg content on your of yeah i do

01:17:24.240 but it's only with the whoever we just we broke up pretty recently but yeah okay so you wouldn't

01:17:30.620 for example if you're in a relationship with a guy you wouldn't do content with another guy

01:17:33.980 never okay okay it was only like me and him because we were in a relationship

01:17:38.280 gotcha do you think uh do you take quarrel with men caring about the women uh women's body count

01:17:44.620 no because i i said this multiple times it's about the ratio what do you mean

01:17:49.640 so i'm super hot so a lot of guys want to fuck me and i don't fuck a lot of guys comparatively

01:17:56.300 but okay if a girl's not that hot and a lot of guys don't want to fuck her

01:18:02.940 that number might be kind of high she doesn't get a lot of opportunities she doesn't get as many

01:18:10.760 opportunities that i do it's about the ratio it's about the ratio but okay but taking opportunities

01:18:17.080 is like the whole thing in life the ratio yeah yeah so what you're saying is basically if a girl

01:18:23.500 is very unattractive then she should have a low body count because she's presumably not having as

01:18:29.700 many opportunities whereas if a girl is very attractive then she she probably has had more

01:18:36.200 opportunities but it's still it still depends about the it still depends about the ratio

01:18:41.740 but how are we even gonna know it depends well that's why a number does not actually matter because

01:18:49.820 i will because i will my 10 and her 10 might be completely different there's been like times

01:18:55.260 where like some dudes told me like yeah i fucked 100 girls i'm like yeah no shit you go to the club

01:18:59.140 every night right like if you live in miami i never leave the house you know i'm not like

01:19:03.980 that's why i have had that's why the ratio matters yeah exactly who keeps track of this ratio and how

01:19:10.260 is it calculated this is the thing those numbers on the screen you could tell though like it depends

01:19:16.960 where you live it depends what you look like if you're out in miami las vegas new york city partying

01:19:23.840 every night you probably have a couple guys trying to take you home and if you go home with 10

01:19:30.180 if you go home with 10 over living there for three years that's not a big deal what's the difference

01:19:36.060 between a number and a ratio because of how many opportunities you have if you live in like ohio

01:19:42.260 and you've only had 10 opportunities to have sex and you chose all 10 10 is a big number for you

01:19:50.180 10 isn't a big number if you have had 10 000 opportunities and once an opportunity you said

01:19:57.040 no doubt i like that you're sticking to your guns on this race because it is a bad ratio because it

01:20:01.520 is because it actually is anyone with a body though actually knows anything at college the rate i'm

01:20:08.140 still confused by what the rate i don't understand what you're gonna she keeps tracks of how many guys

01:20:13.680 want to bone her okay and if there's a hundred guys and she only sleeps with two that's a great ratio

01:20:18.840 right exactly so in her mind she can know who wants to smash but therefore someone else it's

01:20:24.820 like a slut ratio that's what yeah it is it's like temptation to action it sounds like some goals

01:20:31.360 might say two but only had two opportunities that's kind of slutty but if you had a hundred

01:20:36.600 opportunities and only choose two men yeah i get i just think it's not slutty at all it's still it's

01:20:41.640 very virgin like yeah it's very biblical it sounds like you're saying self-control is what

01:20:50.220 yeah yeah completely choosing opportunities choosing people yeah a thousand percent so you

01:20:56.920 think it actually shows but you said you should choose to love someone and i'm saying you should

01:21:01.920 choose to have sex with them two might be a big number for someone and it might not be but doesn't

01:21:06.900 this contradict your so it's ten but doesn't this contradict your point earlier that we are just

01:21:12.240 supposed to be in caves sleeping around like rabbits when now you're saying oh i know i didn't

01:21:16.100 say we're saying restraint hold on let them finish containing your body count based on the ratio is a

01:21:21.340 virtue one should aspire for no that's not what you're saying no that's what you said we were all

01:21:25.900 supposed to be naked sleeping around no i didn't say we're i never so we're not supposed to be in a

01:21:31.660 cave naked but not sleeping i said be no if you're in a cave i only have ever done stuff with my

01:21:37.400 boyfriend on my only fans okay and if i if eve didn't eat the apple i would be naked in a cave doing

01:21:44.400 stuff with my boyfriend there's no there's no doors on caves everyone will be just walking around

01:21:50.360 if animals fuck it's not weird they're in the wild yeah but we're not animals we are though we actually

01:21:57.900 are the reason why we're not is because society has built us up to such a horrible thing that we're

01:22:06.200 not supposed to be like you could get into like why we wear rubber shoes like we're supposed to be

01:22:11.300 grounding off the universe i think we are animals we completely are animals yeah and it's about the

01:22:17.680 ratio the answer is still about the ratio okay what is your ratio very very very low compared to how

01:22:26.140 many people want to fuck me to how many people i fucked what's the ratio yeah one to a thousand

01:22:31.100 so a thousand dudes want to fuck you more than a thousand but i'm just choosing the ratio excuse me

01:22:36.800 i apologize the ratio is like point point zero zero zero zero three that's the ratio do you keep a

01:22:42.600 notebook yep really yeah point zero zero zero three she keeps a tally okay diary good times good

01:22:50.480 time so uh your take on the logan paul dylan dana situation so we're talking like numbers now not

01:22:57.060 ratio well uh i don't know why people are so confused about math we forgot about seventh grade math no one

01:23:05.400 has common sense i mean i just am thinking like a number before you're with somebody i don't know my

01:23:12.580 number but that's the thing but you've lived in a bunch of cities are you talking like are you

01:23:16.440 talking about opportunities yeah you don't know you're never mind no what but this is the thing

01:23:24.440 i don't keep me and her have had a lot of opportunities that we've said no to

01:23:28.440 and that should be very important in the number every woman has a lot of opportunities that they've

01:23:33.800 said no uh madison your take i think it was very humorous i don't think he had to bring

01:23:38.680 the whole wifey into it but um well that's the whole humorous part right yeah exactly i mean he

01:23:46.040 didn't have to go that far but it was funny it was humorous uh i absolutely understand why body

01:23:50.960 count matters and yeah so the question is why does body count matter or does it matter i think i think

01:23:58.020 that it's completely understandable for someone who has chose tried to choose virtue and self-control

01:24:03.320 to want that in their future spouse i completely understand that i think for anybody who's lived

01:24:09.520 sort of a more promiscuous past who chooses virtue and says i don't want to do that anymore i want to

01:24:14.540 change my life i think there's a future for that person so i don't think having a body count count in

01:24:20.280 your past means that you can't have a future but i also understand and appreciate that people that

01:24:25.380 are trying to live virtue want to be with somebody who shares their values

01:24:29.800 yeah obviously body count matters obviously it's harder to pair bond the higher the number of

01:24:37.740 partners you had obviously you're more likely to get divorced the higher number of partners you've

01:24:41.680 had this is all proven through and through so yes it matters the double standard of propping

01:24:48.600 logan up to be some playboy while making her seem like some slut i think is a bit weird and kind of

01:24:53.860 one of the non-helpful aspects of our culture and yeah it's not the most classiest move but if

01:24:59.360 they're trying to sell fights i'm i'm i my guess would be as logan is in on it and he's okay with

01:25:03.920 making as much money as he can but yes it matters yes there's redemption uh yes there's an amazing

01:25:09.900 story arc if these two were to repent and change and go a totally different direction with their

01:25:14.120 lives um which i think is beautiful that there's always redemption uh yeah i mean i probably agree that

01:25:20.600 i don't agree with like dragging the whole wifey into it i mean at 31 it's kind of expected that

01:25:25.760 she's obviously going to have already slept with people um but i do in my opinion i think that body

01:25:31.780 count matters but i think it matters for the person that you're with and the relationship that you're

01:25:35.560 in and i find that oftentimes people who think that body count doesn't matter is usually coming from

01:25:40.960 people with like really high body counts but that has something to do with the ratio

01:25:45.020 if someone's like famous i mean probably have like a lot of people that want to fuck them

01:25:52.880 so their body counts can automatically be higher because they had a lot of opportunities

01:25:57.080 than normal people wouldn't i mean in a thousand look at i think there's i think there's a lot of

01:26:02.920 good dms yeah but the dms don't mean anything and i think there's a lot of opportunity please stop

01:26:07.960 stop cutting people off go ahead there's a lot of people who are attractive and good looking that you

01:26:12.220 can still like refrain from promiscuity and hooking up with people and there's people who can be like

01:26:17.200 i guess super not attractive but it's like who's like guiding that scale like some people find

01:26:21.900 certain people attractive some people find the same person like super unattractive but that's actually

01:26:27.020 my whole point like it's about the ratio i think it's about the ratio if you fell in love with a

01:26:35.100 guy but you found out he had slept with 10 other girls would that be like a deal breaker hold on

01:26:40.160 just a sec to the blondie in the back right your body count is higher than the amount of brain cells

01:26:46.540 you have and you sound like a 90 year old chain smoker thank you your response to bender the offender

01:26:53.260 yeah i naturally do have a very raspy voice i actually used to work as a receptionist my first

01:27:00.140 um job ever after college was a receptionist at a law firm and everyone that i answered the phone to

01:27:08.060 would say i hope you feel better and i was like yeah i'm not fucking sick but thank you i'll transfer

01:27:14.180 you now to the lawyer that you are trying to talk to what were you saying what was your question yeah

01:27:19.640 it's just a question out of curiosity if you fall in love with a man and then you found find out he's

01:27:24.560 been with 10 other girls intimately or 100 be no 10 would that be a deal breaker for you i want to

01:27:29.960 know like i feel like i'm not in this world so i don't know if a guy checked off all the boxes for

01:27:34.580 me and he was like no longer in that lifestyle if it was something that he did like a while ago then

01:27:38.740 i feel like it wouldn't matter too much to me but if he's been with like 100 girls then yeah i feel

01:27:44.380 like that would be like a problem what if i change my ways i leave her i become a man of god

01:27:49.460 and i decide that i want to be one of these trad con internet guys and that you know i'm going to

01:27:54.580 like totally change my whole life rebrand as a man of god we would disciple you and work on your

01:28:01.500 marriage with her

01:28:02.420 counseling and all that good stuff i just want to know if i if that is a possibility well i think

01:28:09.560 there's like redemption kind of what he was saying when she was saying like i think people can

01:28:12.820 like be promiscuous and then i think that they can like kind of like turn from that and be like

01:28:15.940 okay i'm not i don't want to 10 is a lot and that 10 is promiscuous for i don't know i mean i do feel

01:28:21.180 like i do genuinely i know it's so bad i feel like guys and girls are very different so i feel like 10

01:28:26.360 like for a girl is like a lot but also like for a guy yeah i kind of is like i do think that if you

01:28:31.860 guys did if you did that and you're like i'm done with you know this the porn world greatest story

01:28:36.400 arc i know and i'm gonna be like i mean like you said a man of god and you stayed with lena and you

01:28:41.300 just stay together yeah of course you're married again and really focused on your family raising

01:28:46.320 your kids i think it would set an incredible example it would probably help many people

01:28:50.760 realize that the lifestyle they're in with porn is harmful to see two people leave that industry

01:28:55.740 and say no we're gonna build something beautiful and secure and and committed together why aren't

01:29:00.160 they building something secure and beautiful if a guy was with 100 girls probably not okay he was

01:29:05.020 with 300 before i started dating him that's why i'm like is there something fucked up about me

01:29:08.340 that i literally cared this much i was wilding yeah like in retrospect i don't know what the

01:29:12.740 hell i was doing like i was just really trying to fill this hole in my heart with just fucking as

01:29:17.180 many random girls as i could and then once i got into a relationship and felt like i kind of shook off

01:29:21.660 that whole mentality i definitely did feel a lot better my thing is is that i think the average guy

01:29:27.420 might need to catch you know 50 bodies before he realistically has like a real perspective

01:29:32.960 she disagrees the size i just the way he talks always like no but like personality wise vagina

01:29:39.740 sizing wise there's just so many things that i feel like you're gonna figure out once you slept

01:29:44.000 with a bunch of people i disagree with this vagina size conversation you always want to have there's

01:29:48.240 a lot of different sizes i've been with my wife and two other women i could assure you that my sex

01:29:52.940 life is thriving and just fine after 15 years of being together so i don't think you no i know well

01:29:58.020 it is good because you don't know better have less knowledge of what is out there so it's like

01:30:02.340 it's harder for you to you know have your mind wander to like what could be out there which is good

01:30:07.680 there's a freedom inside of a covenantal relationship to try things and to explore and to do things that

01:30:12.980 if you're out here and you're raw dogging it you don't know who has what and all the stipulations

01:30:17.920 that go into that life there's a freedom you have there's a protection you have there's a there's a

01:30:21.880 trust that you have in a relationship where it's just you and the other person and that's why i do think

01:30:26.160 that the sexual revolution has overall been probably negative for most women because the truth is is

01:30:31.300 that as a man you can have sex with any woman and you know bust a nut in five ten minutes and you're

01:30:36.540 good you just had a good time whereas for a woman realistically the first time you have sex with a

01:30:40.680 guy you have like a infinitesimal percentage chance that you're going to orgasm and you're realistically

01:30:45.300 only going to end up having positive sexual experiences by sleeping with the same guy over and over and

01:30:50.100 really learning how to connect with them it's called marriage totally and i get that i also

01:30:55.860 just think women you know should be should feel free to do what they want to do but i also in

01:31:01.200 terms of what i would tell you know any woman in my life what i would recommend for them i would say

01:31:05.800 you know hold your vagina in high esteem and don't like just be handing it out willy-nilly because

01:31:10.240 realistically the the most leverage that you have to get a guy to take you serious is by holding out

01:31:16.760 on sex and forcing them to show some serious amount of interest in you before you give into that

01:31:21.580 that being said if a woman just wants to have sex too i'm not opposed to her adam 22 promoting

01:31:26.400 abstinence i love it well i do think it's amazing as a woman that is like the the sole superpower that

01:31:32.520 you have now you know we had sex the first night that we met and it still worked out but i do think

01:31:36.900 that there's been many times in my life where a girl might have made me wait like even two weeks to

01:31:41.940 sleep with her and in that two week time period we were texting and going on dates and hanging out and

01:31:47.160 it kind of forced me to take her serious as a what happened after she fucked you did you stay with

01:31:51.360 her some of them i've stayed with them for a few more weeks but do you think that do you think

01:31:55.720 that experience says something like even the way women are wired like you said like a woman needs to

01:32:00.320 really typically get to know the man like and i mean that's the power of a marriage is you're really

01:32:04.300 committed you're going to see what works for each other sexually so there's this like hedge of

01:32:08.640 protection around your sex life which is this beautiful thing it opens all these opportunities for you

01:32:13.000 really explore together but don't you think that says something about morality like our bodies say

01:32:17.660 something actually about morality meaning women can get pregnant from sex women need to really be

01:32:22.380 known and feel close and comfortable and be able to be vulnerable in order to be even able to orgasm

01:32:27.180 typically and so there's something written into our actual bodily design for monogamy that's good

01:32:32.800 yeah i mean i don't know that i take it that serious that it's like you know hardwired into us i think so

01:32:39.640 much as just that's the bargaining chip and marriage doesn't guarantee an orgasm i mean well

01:32:44.160 of course not you gotta you've gotta work at it i mean you just said that when you sorry you just

01:32:48.800 said that when you slept with those 300 women you said i had a hole in my heart you know that's like

01:32:55.760 one of the most evangelical christian things people say right you told me i didn't know that

01:33:01.340 they're trying to fill something and so they're going out and they're trying to fill that void with

01:33:06.380 something that could only be filled with god but the truth is is that i had to sleep with some number

01:33:12.560 of women in order to feel like i had enough life experience to then settle down like i can even

01:33:16.680 rewind my life to when i was you know in my early 20s and there was a girl i dated for a few months

01:33:21.280 and she was awesome she was like you know we still are friends we still talk here and there

01:33:24.760 she wanted to settle down with me and i just kind of knew at the age of like 23 that i just had a lot

01:33:30.380 of living to do and that i wasn't going to be able to really settle down in a relationship even if the

01:33:34.380 girl that i was with at the time was pretty great just because i didn't have enough life experience

01:33:38.680 why do you feel that way i got married at 23 19 years later we're great we're doing well we have

01:33:43.500 two beautiful kids no and there's part of me that kind of wishes that i had been mature enough to

01:33:48.540 have been able to like accept that relationship for what it was but i also i think i would have

01:33:53.540 cheated non-stop i think i would have been a total piece of shit i think i needed to like kind of get

01:33:57.440 some of my wild oats out there before i was able to settle down you need to have a hoe face

01:34:01.260 i think everybody needs a hoe face the question is just how long even those two bodies you got

01:34:06.040 that was a little bit of a hoe face right i mean before jesus yeah you know uh let's get a couple

01:34:10.700 i completely agree with you and actually you too like i completely agree with you i'm not talking

01:34:18.880 about having one night stands i don't have one night stands i meet guys that i think i might date

01:34:24.240 that i think potentially might go somewhere we hook up we date we it may be only last three months

01:34:32.000 but i'm not doing it like for a one night stand i'm not doing that i'm being very very very careful

01:34:39.680 i genuinely interested in them i genuinely think it might go somewhere and my parents are divorced i'm

01:34:47.640 very very careful of who i'm gonna settle down with who i'm gonna have kids with so i think that like

01:34:53.240 there's a point that's misunderstanding like i'm super republican i'm super traditional

01:34:58.120 but i'm not gonna settle down with the first opportunity because i will never put my kids

01:35:04.840 through a divorce i will never put my kids through watching a family fight or parents fight so i think

01:35:12.840 that's where i misunderstood i wish that i was how old did you say you were 23 i'm 38 got married

01:35:18.940 yeah i wish that i met my person at 19 and married at 23 i wish that but that didn't happen for me

01:35:26.560 sorry but i but i have to vet them i'm not just like fucking people to fuck them i'm fucking and i'm

01:35:33.740 dating them i'm dating yeah i'm genuinely being super careful i believe in what you believe in but i

01:35:41.480 didn't get as lucky to just meet my person at 19 you know what i had my whole life planned out with

01:35:47.700 someone who i thought i was gonna marry and then it didn't go the way that was planned a lot of

01:35:52.400 people it sounds like you want marriage like a beautiful yeah a thousand percent but i'm not

01:35:58.420 gonna settle i'm not gonna settle i don't think she's not gonna but do you think that you're

01:36:02.920 maximizing your opportunity for a loving faithful committed marriage by doing only fans well i mean

01:36:09.920 that's how me and my ex got to our strongest point ever he's your ex hey i don't do yeah but he's my

01:36:16.040 exit he's my exit to you yeah he's my ex because i wanted him to be max and not the other way around

01:36:22.160 why did you want him but like we were already doing videos and stuff for each other just because

01:36:28.000 we were into it and then i was like hey we can make a lot of money doing this i got into it on my own

01:36:33.840 without him but no i i actually will completely say when i committed to only fans me and him were

01:36:42.240 not officially together and i said this might affect my dating life but i'm single and i need

01:36:48.980 to live a certain lifestyle and i'm gonna do it regardless and i didn't expect it to get as far as

01:36:53.840 it did and but i also got into a relationship that i never even thought would be a true official

01:37:00.520 relationship ever i'm just saying yeah it didn't work out but it's not because of the only dancing

01:37:06.180 yeah i think it has nothing to do with only dancing i i do have to move things along so we have a couple

01:37:11.140 chats here we have puffy vegas i'm 100 straight i've been seven stars all women i'm five foot eight tall

01:37:23.980 but nine oh my god nine inches long i have not played video get videos puffy my dude you should

01:37:32.360 okay since 1990 adam 22 have your wife rate my instagram puffy you got to hit the threshold buddy

01:37:39.100 if you want us to you got to do it through stream labs too if you want us to do a rating i like how

01:37:43.680 he tells me to let you rate his dick i'm just pretty long yeah he's totally lying nine nine is so

01:37:51.380 big i didn't realize until i measured mine and i realized that i wasn't even seven and i was like

01:37:55.720 damn nine is serious you're pretty good thanks good times okay we have herne a few things where

01:38:03.380 the fuck is mike davis been also from listening to adam it is clear to me he is an ideal well come on

01:38:09.840 be nice saying i'm an ideal candidate for a lobotomy is if to say that i'm already well he's saying i'm

01:38:15.800 like sick in the head so i need a lobotomy but he's not saying i'm dumb in regards to other

01:38:19.820 super chats to find out oh my okay yeah yeah all right all right all right yeah juice box emojis in

01:38:29.160 the chat mac mac mac uh thank you for the uh hundred appreciate it and then we have a couple here from

01:38:36.680 stream labs we have one sec let me get this triggered oh valdiv kek w ole girls don't know

01:38:44.660 how much military and law enforcement play games question for the panel how do you think the

01:38:49.920 cardinal sins being commonplace in our society and how it affects dating in particular lust envy sloth

01:38:57.000 and pride deus of volt uh what about the what are the other seven there's gluttony wrath what's the

01:39:07.080 other one pride no there's lust envy sloth and pride gluttony oh gluttony and wrath yeah uh so he's

01:39:16.420 asking do you think the cardinal sins being commonplace in our society and how it affects dating him

01:39:21.020 wait do you think there are cardinal sins is that the here i'll pull it back up i think he's saying

01:39:28.680 that like the proliferation of this stuff is leading to the down the downward turn of society just a

01:39:35.680 failed society okay all right valdiv i think there's a lot of things going in play to the down

01:39:43.500 all of society and it's way way way bigger than only fans like so i did for one okay um

01:39:52.420 so i think what he's asking is do the seven deadly sins have an impact on dating lust greed

01:40:02.300 envy sloth pride wrath gluttony of course they have an impact on dating but i think the deeper issue

01:40:09.360 is the one underneath the surface which christy is kind of hinting at is that we have an entire

01:40:13.660 society that's upside down and we're wondering why people are getting divorced more likely why there's

01:40:18.980 more self-deletion why all these things are happening in school with the transformers we're

01:40:23.660 seeing all this stuff proliferate and it's like where is this coming from as society gets more and

01:40:28.920 more secular and removes god from everything all of a sudden things go bad all of a sudden there's

01:40:34.460 more stds there's more stis there's more deletion of babies all of these things are connected so those

01:40:39.880 are just the manifestation of said things but i would also go back to to something you guys are all into

01:40:45.880 fitness you you're a fitness instructor if you know that eating in a caloric deficit having the

01:40:51.540 right amount of protein being active creates certain results most of us will implement said

01:40:56.160 results but for whatever reason we compartmentalize relationships and marriage and we don't look at

01:41:01.140 the best practices of people who are doing relationships marriage staying married the longest thriving having

01:41:05.980 beautiful families and we compartmentalize and we always want to be the exception to the rule so me and

01:41:10.280 you i actually think we're on the same exact page but it's like yes i would have loved to met the love

01:41:19.160 of my life at 17 and marry them by 23 i didn't like you know what i mean i'm not gonna marry to mary

01:41:25.480 and then either be unhappy or divorce i don't think anyone's prescribing that i'm saying every moment

01:41:31.760 passing is another chance to turn it all around like every every moment but god created me right like do

01:41:38.040 do you think i'm a sin i'm god's one of god's greatest work we're all god's artwork we're creating

01:41:43.280 i'm not like against god i'm i'm catholic that's awesome like i'm super spiritual i'm super religious

01:41:49.120 i don't think god doesn't like me i there's so many things in my life that i know god is with me every

01:41:57.500 single day of my life and so are all my spirit guides so i think maybe i think we have the same

01:42:05.080 core values yes i think we do but let me we really do let me know the ratio is different let me just

01:42:12.020 say this let me just say this i think i think i think god loves you so much that it's this sort

01:42:18.140 of love where he accepts you right where you are but desires so much more for you i think it's the

01:42:22.620 way that adam loves his daughter it's such a love where i love you right where you're at even when you

01:42:27.820 have a poopy diaper even when you're making a mess of your house but yet i want more for you

01:42:32.260 and that and that love is but that you have to trust that the universe will give you what you

01:42:39.800 need and everything will happen to you when you need it like well i think especially you being

01:42:45.700 catholic like that whole idea of like the universe giving you what you want like you said you're

01:42:49.780 catholic so i'm bringing this up because you said that like no satan gives you what you want

01:42:53.520 in that moment no i'm i'm not i'm completely against well feyton yeah i'm not a transgender

01:42:59.360 liberal i i'm not hillary clinton i think the key is like back to the original question is that

01:43:05.380 you know it's not easy to choose virtue like what ruslan was saying like choosing a workout routine

01:43:11.020 choosing to eat healthy like that can be difficult but the more you do it the easier it becomes actually

01:43:15.800 and there's still hard days but the more you choose the good the more you build a habit of virtue of

01:43:20.400 doing the good and so i think that's the same the same is true with relationships and with sex

01:43:24.540 the more you choose to do it as good like choose to save sex for marriage or choose to not lust or

01:43:29.940 choose to not engage with lustful behavior like the more you're acclimating yourself how is me

01:43:34.940 and doing something with my boyfriend that i only did something with him that's sacred

01:43:40.200 how is that bad it was i never did it with anyone else are there any bible verses on this

01:43:45.600 well sex is sacred in a sex is sacred in a marriage not just in a relationship that you're

01:43:50.520 in okay so have you had sex before i'm not going to answer that i was engaged before if that's your

01:43:55.260 question yeah i was engaged yeah so there was there was a ring there was a commitment there was a ring

01:44:00.560 there was a commitment let me finish we had a commitment too let me finish my thought and we

01:44:04.520 worked together for a long time so so did we though we worked together for a long time and we had a

01:44:10.560 commitment but no to answer what i think what lila is saying is just that it's a commitment thing

01:44:14.660 within the bounds of marriage and it's the commandments in the bible and the verses that

01:44:18.740 are there they're not to like hurt you they're there for protection and i think that's just all

01:44:23.560 you don't have to get defensive i think lila's just yeah i'm not getting defensive i say i'm completely

01:44:28.400 agree with you i have a bible in my house i'm very spiritual and very religious i have a very very

01:44:34.200 good connection with god god loves me no matter what you think i think i know i know i know so

01:44:42.500 but like i think we're we believe in the same things but i don't i think in it being an accountant

01:44:49.180 is a boring job just because you don't like my job doesn't mean you should bring it up i don't bring

01:44:54.620 up your job and say you don't like your job well we're here to talk about dating and relationships so

01:44:58.400 yeah and that's why dating and relationships are fine but i'll just say like i just say say this

01:45:03.800 that you know god does love you he loves me he loves us all so much i totally agree with you on

01:45:08.080 that and these laws about morality on sex and like just all the like the seven sins you brought up

01:45:13.340 earlier brian there are laws that god gives us like the ten commandments there's some no's and

01:45:17.520 there's some yeses of what we're supposed to do but it's not crazy it's like yes it's a narrow path but

01:45:21.800 it's doable and people can do it especially with god's love right and so the idea is i want you to be

01:45:27.220 happy you know i want to be happy at rusland we all want happiness at this table and the rules

01:45:32.180 the rules about relationships and sex and marriage these rules there aren't a ton of them but there's

01:45:36.100 basic ones of fidelity and commitment they're to make us happy in the end like they're not to be a

01:45:40.800 burden for you when have i been infidelity when have i didn't i think it was infidelity she wasn't

01:45:45.220 talking about you being i'm talking generally okay which one of the commandments have i broken so

01:45:49.060 can i can i read you a verse yeah okay so this is matthew chapter 5 verse 27 this is jesus

01:45:53.300 speaking it's in red he says you have heard that it was said you shall not commit adultery

01:45:56.840 but i say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed

01:46:01.480 adultery with her in his heart so jesus is saying society says adultery is wrong you guys have heard

01:46:07.740 it said i've never committed and he's saying that it's way worse than that he's saying that even if

01:46:14.780 you've lusted in your heart or you've created content that causes other people to lust in your

01:46:19.040 heart that it's the same as adultery that that's what he's saying so he's saying the standard is so much

01:46:23.480 higher than any of us can admit that's why i think this whole like she's bad because she did

01:46:27.640 this but adam had 300 bodies like i think it's we're all jacked up we all need grace and we all need

01:46:32.300 mercy and that's the point of the gospel that's the point of the good news is that jesus is saying

01:46:36.560 you can't do it on your own you're incapable that's why you need jesus that's not what i get from that at

01:46:41.840 all it's saying that if a man i'm saying what it says too if a man lust elsewhere that's when he's

01:46:49.400 doing wrong right i'm not doing wrong that's men would love lust after me whether i had only fans or

01:46:57.580 i was a lawyer or i was a real estate agent just because i have how i look that has nothing to do

01:47:04.380 with me but there's nothing to do with me could you run your business sorry that god made me look this

01:47:09.320 way god made me look like this could you that has nothing to do with a man lusting after me and

01:47:15.280 their decisions i cannot choose their decisions it's not my fault god made me hot dude it's not

01:47:23.780 my fucking fault but could you run your business god made me look like this for a reason the point

01:47:28.440 here is because you're saying you're a christian and you want to follow i'm a catholic that's a

01:47:31.980 christian but you're saying you can but can you run your business without lust wait hold on let me

01:47:36.840 just thank you can you have your business without lust k jane what was it k jane what i do with my

01:47:41.440 boyfriend k jane karen thing sorry if i got your name wrong thank you for the uh raid over there on

01:47:46.120 twitch really appreciate it man thank you welcome welcome guys um here just to keep things moving i do

01:47:50.860 need to get a couple of other uh of our other chats and we have zeki zeki brian can i get a salute

01:47:57.240 to my man uh me and my girl love watching your show this episode is incredible when those two girls

01:48:03.880 sharing a brain cell in the corner aren't rambling about libraries ruining humanity big labia matter

01:48:10.040 based okay i heard about your non-profit that's pretty cool yeah i didn't you know i i didn't

01:48:14.520 mention it today's show but i do have a non-profit uh blm big labia matter um where we're uh you know

01:48:21.180 getting started but i've always felt like i was pretty open-minded about the size of the labia and

01:48:26.360 i thought that was cool to know that you're on the same page as me i'm a fan i'm a fan which is why i was

01:48:31.340 a little i was taken aback when you mentioned the venus fly trap i didn't know if that was

01:48:36.540 but but the way you described it it was much more than than just a large i don't yeah i've heard i

01:48:44.440 haven't really like heard a lot of girls admit to it but i've heard that the labiaplasty surgery is

01:48:49.140 pretty popular which i find kind of disturbing there's like 10 000 a year in the u.s that people

01:48:54.340 get labiaplasty i'm very much against it i mean there are some ugly ones out there i guess but like

01:48:59.860 it just seems like they're all great but it just seems like a strange thing but do you think that's

01:49:04.440 happening because there's so much porn out there so women are constantly comparing themselves yeah

01:49:08.500 no i mean probably well i mean one of the arguments is that like in and i think that's changing because

01:49:13.500 i mean if you look there's definitely uh certain actress adult actresses that uh have large labia but

01:49:23.360 in the past like in with uh typically in print i think back in the 90s i think there was definitely

01:49:28.880 talk of like airbrushing or they would select women specifically who uh were not were who had

01:49:36.660 innies let's say i love my wife's labia because like i think if we live in a society where it's

01:49:42.400 if we live in a society that's like heavy objectification on women's body parts

01:49:46.060 it's understandable why some women feel so insecure about their body parts and that's

01:49:51.600 that goes back to the kind of our whole position on sex is just for two people in a forever

01:49:56.680 lifelong commitment because then you're not comparing you're not constantly comparing

01:50:01.160 your body to somebody else's body well we're all artwork we're all god's creation just because

01:50:06.320 i didn't find my soulmate yet doesn't mean i'm not his piece of art or creation or anything less

01:50:14.560 than that he's probably watching right now he is that's why the power is in the you are you are

01:50:19.900 i know i don't believe i don't need you to tell me that but that's that's that's part of why

01:50:25.120 because we're on the same side it's just like it's not my fault that you got to meet your husband for

01:50:31.060 i did i don't think anyone's saying it's anyone's fault i think we're saying there comes a degree of

01:50:35.480 you are judging my life because i didn't meet my husband as early as you met your wife it's just

01:50:41.440 i don't think that that's what it is it's just a conversation all right so we have we have flan life

01:50:49.780 here ayo raspy oh hold on let me pull it up ayo raspy i still don't understand the ratio please

01:50:57.500 explain oh and i remember my first beer chill on the alcohol the land life is funny do you have a

01:51:04.080 response to flan life if you don't understand ratios i like literally can't help you like you

01:51:10.320 learn ratios in fourth grade i don't know man that sounds like a lot of work it sounds like a lot of

01:51:16.700 math oh did you did you get through elementary school we can't even pass through middle school

01:51:23.740 without knowing what a ratio is did you fuckers learn anything at college okay uh we have bender

01:51:29.420 the offender to the blondie in the back right your body count oh this one already came through

01:51:36.480 i don't actually have a body count in the back right thank you your body count is higher than

01:51:41.540 the amount of brain cells you have and you sound like i don't smoke at all though this thing i don't

01:51:47.080 really mean i don't vape i don't smoke no isn't that a lot of actually a lot of guys think it's a

01:51:54.080 very sexy raspy voice so i don't really give a fuck yeah some guys are into the raspy voice all

01:52:00.980 right we have lila should cover up donated 100 to the blondie oh wait what wait what hold on i don't

01:52:08.560 know why one sec the christian wears a bunch of makeup and i can tell what what her boobs look like

01:52:14.960 in that shirt she's only a few degrees separated from lena's fashion sense cover up woman how much

01:52:22.000 more does she need to cover up because you can see her elbows doesn't even have any cleavage

01:52:26.060 and she's pregnant so she probably has a lot if she wanted to i am pregnant oh oh really

01:52:30.800 congratulations

01:52:31.380 congrats

01:52:32.320 i was not supposed to say that it's amazing no it's okay wow that's amazing congrats

01:52:36.700 that was just completely but i appreciate the feedback lila should cover up

01:52:40.360 i mean you couldn't cover up more though you're dressed pretty modestly

01:52:45.000 yeah all right well don't shoot the messenger we have mount whateverist adam 22 out of a hundred

01:52:53.420 and his quote-unquote wife are absolutely having a threesome with smoker voice in the blue tonight

01:52:59.240 confirm or deny is this the case i don't want to close the door on anything you know you never know

01:53:04.420 i've never this is the first time we met so i don't know never say never i would be on your

01:53:09.660 podcast if you want to meet oh all right our podcast is a porn podcast so we always have sex

01:53:14.140 at the end of it so okay so we only plug talk we've never talked about it we've never talked

01:53:18.300 about it are you guys is this something i could arrange it's never been suggested before we might

01:53:23.740 pass her to the team and let them have a review but no it's kind of funny you say that because i

01:53:28.520 actually was telling her the other day that i think i want to try out this fetish where she actually

01:53:32.860 like whispers to me in an rfk junior voice while we're sleeping together and i feel like that might

01:53:38.460 actually help me to achieve erections yeah you know i'm not gonna so you might be able to pull

01:53:43.380 it off even easier than her so tbd tbd all right we have him duncan hey thank you man the girl talking

01:53:51.500 about a ratio average dudes would f anything it ain't no flex adam would you really have done a

01:53:57.800 threesome with tate also brian is natch coming on in the future uh not sure about i still need to look

01:54:03.240 into this natch guy i'll check it out uh adam would you do a threesome with andrew tate

01:54:08.180 well for the sheer virality of it if he was willing to participate in a pornograph movie and

01:54:14.340 allow us to release it i don't know how we would turn that down i'm sorry if we can get the model

01:54:19.100 release for him yeah that'd be nice yeah but generally speaking you know us going outside of

01:54:23.920 our relationship is pretty much reserved just for uh you know adult performers since it is like a

01:54:30.580 content thing but if andrew wanted to enter the game with us i could be open to where do you draw

01:54:35.400 the line with this stuff like honestly it seems like you've opened pandora's box and i mean i know

01:54:39.040 you're joking kind of trolling about this stuff but are you are you guys talking like penetration and

01:54:44.500 you like where is this going i've only slept with one other guy besides him and it was like like two

01:54:50.260 months ago it's not like but you guys are like very open-minded about all this but we haven't even

01:54:54.420 like planned the next thing like okay but you want to do it with another dude that is in the thing

01:55:00.260 that is something that we both doing your first in porn is like a big thing it's like uh yeah and

01:55:05.460 i just think it's hot like realistically yeah you think it's hot we did it actually once in our

01:55:09.520 personal life when we first met yeah yeah it was like really fun first couple weeks or whatever we

01:55:16.240 were at a party and we ended up hooking up with my friend my friend ended up so that doesn't feel

01:55:20.840 slightly you know well once i started dating her and we fell in love it was kind of like oh my god

01:55:25.920 oh yeah i can't believe i let my friend fuck you that one night but while other people were watching

01:55:30.100 us yeah but then once once we really kind of accepted our our love it was not a big deal but

01:55:36.020 yeah like he was always turned on when we talk about it so i was like okay clearly you're having

01:55:39.400 like a physical response to this so i just grew up running trains on chicks with my friends and then

01:55:44.360 it kind of became weird to like end up in a relationship with a girl that i essentially kind

01:55:48.800 of did that with in the early days yeah it was a threesome but still you know it's like you you

01:55:52.940 kind of like even if you like doing that if you can get down and running the train which like a

01:55:56.580 huge percentage of dudes that i know at some point when they were younger they did that but then like

01:56:01.580 you know you just don't wife up a girl like that right well i'm proving that you can and you should

01:56:06.260 you guys have a daughter is that right so i've got two sons i hope we have a daughter we'll see what

01:56:11.060 god does but i'll see but um what do you think for your daughter like do you would you want your

01:56:16.180 daughter to go down the path you've gone down with porn no why is that um because i feel like

01:56:22.920 she should choose whatever you know career or pursuit she wants to pursue if she found herself

01:56:28.040 as an adult one day having explored a variety of different options and that was what she ultimately

01:56:33.600 wanted to do uh it wouldn't really be my choice at that point but for sure i would rather her pursue

01:56:39.360 you know art or music or like a lot of daughters like admire their mothers and want to be like their

01:56:44.940 mothers so let's say she's 17 about to turn 18 and she's like i want to be like my mom like she's

01:56:50.260 successful my dad seems to really love her and you know is committed to her i want to do porn how

01:56:55.620 would that make you feel i mean i would want her to do it in the safest way possible and i would want

01:57:01.640 to make sure that i could help her if she needed that help but i'd like adam like i would rather

01:57:05.640 her do something else like when i got into porn i had already had a degree i'd had multiple different

01:57:10.240 jobs and i was super broke and i like this wasn't my first choice but i was like okay i'm just going

01:57:14.840 to take photos and then i'll have the freedom to do whatever else i want with my life and that is how

01:57:18.760 it started and then we started dating and we just we were already like making porn in our personal

01:57:23.460 life like we'd fuck and then we'd film it and it was kind of just like why not if there's nothing

01:57:27.260 wrong with porn why would you want her to do other things first why would you have any issue at all

01:57:31.640 with her going into it i just think that it's kind of limiting for the future of your life

01:57:36.460 afterwards you know like we don't really have any doubt about the fact that her degree would be

01:57:40.520 kind of useless to her at this point in terms of getting into another career and you see girls

01:57:44.380 dealing with that all the time i just don't think that it's like necessarily a good thing for a girl

01:57:49.340 to get into because she's 18 and she doesn't feel like getting a job like it just is not you know

01:57:54.940 like the reason why me and her got into it is legitimately because well especially in her case

01:57:59.820 and she had a super normal regular job and she just wanted to achieve some degree of financial

01:58:04.640 freedom and to be able to do what she wanted with her time and you know i got into it not really

01:58:10.760 necessarily having to do it but just because i wanted to you know make content with her and we

01:58:15.020 enjoy it you know like porn aside if my daughter was like wanted to explore her sexuality like i

01:58:22.000 don't think that's a bad thing like i don't think that's unethical but you just you guys just both

01:58:26.600 acknowledge you wouldn't want your daughter to do that it wouldn't be my ideal so isn't that a bit

01:58:31.340 inconsistent though that creates something that you wouldn't want your offspring like we want our kids

01:58:34.980 to be better than us so why would you want them to do that like if they're aspiring for i feel like what

01:58:39.580 i'm doing allows my daughter to have a better life like i am able to we're gonna be able to like put

01:58:45.160 her through private school because i have the life that i have now like i wouldn't have been able to

01:58:48.580 give her that without that my dad was a social worker and for sure he wanted me to be something

01:58:53.840 bigger and better than a social worker you know it's like you always want your kid to do better than

01:58:59.020 you would want to do you know i would love if my daughter was you know some some famed uh you know

01:59:03.900 artist or something that would be amazing do i necessarily think that that's in the cards i mean that's

01:59:08.380 kind of a roll of the dice you never know what your kid's gonna get how much is it how much is

01:59:12.160 enough like financially like at what point does it just like you i feel like you guys intrinsically

01:59:17.480 know this isn't helpful no i think it's as long as you're having fun like whenever we go and is

01:59:21.900 there a dollar a day it's like no it's not it's basically just like it's fun like i look at my

01:59:26.100 calendar and we're hooking up with a couple of chicks that day and i'm like oh wow what a great

01:59:29.960 wednesday it's like very profitable and if it didn't feel good anymore like there are times

01:59:34.660 meth feels good like sometimes we have more sex on camera than we do off camera and those weeks i

01:59:39.260 don't feel like as connected to him i'm like wow we've just been working so much like i don't feel

01:59:42.680 like we've been fostering our relationship and in those weeks if like we didn't take that break and

01:59:46.980 that pause and talk about it and reconnect then i could see myself being like i don't want to do

01:59:51.040 this anymore because it's interfering with our relationship and meth does feel good but the

01:59:55.300 downside of meth is much worse you know having actually done it it's not that great whereas the

02:00:01.120 downside of having you know a threesome with some girl on camera is that at the end of the money you

02:00:05.820 get a bunch of money in the mail so to me in the interim you guys don't know potential consequences

02:00:11.060 down the road i mean we've been doing it for a long time and i wouldn't really say that we've

02:00:14.900 encountered many negative consequences from it there's a bunch of fun and cash hold on i do i do have

02:00:19.820 to move on from this all right we have no it's fine uh so puffy vegas this is the truth because i had

02:00:24.960 no clue that nine inches was something different i'm not lying at this this is no bs women will tell

02:00:30.260 you the size i didn't even know that i was different high school okay we have another

02:00:36.260 one from puffy the threshold of 500 i think this is 500 i want adam 22's wife to rate me

02:00:41.980 all right puffy we'll do you a favor we'll do you but do we know how old he is i'm not sure

02:00:46.460 i don't really want to comment on him if he has 500 he's probably of age but i also want to say

02:00:52.680 that like he's saying that his penis is nine inches long and he never thought it was anything

02:00:58.140 special i'm sorry if you watch porn and you're seeing a lot of penises that are far shorter than

02:01:03.620 nine inches so doesn't that stand out to you that maybe you are a little above average well that

02:01:09.020 would be why the hell is he here met men in the adult industry who said the same exact thing to

02:01:12.560 us in person like i didn't know that i had a big day that is true yeah so do you have it ready

02:01:16.820 oh well we'll close you gotta close that out um uh it's just like a search tab or something you got

02:01:28.540 it just reload the page uh you got it yeah okay all right this is puffy vegas um scroll down jeez you

02:01:41.960 post a lot buddy hold on oh uh you got a nine inch dick that's not that surprising

02:01:46.580 scroll down why is there like all girls on this page i'm so that is a pause right there pull up

02:01:52.120 that one i feel like a lot uh switch us over that's like average for a black dude can you can

02:01:59.440 you switch us over nine is small pull up puffy pull up the phone and switch us over yeah like the

02:02:06.160 camera wait what this guy just hangs out in vegas on the street no no no no x x out of that get out

02:02:13.600 of that ah geez okay um wasn't really attracted to him is that all i was supposed to say yes okay

02:02:22.400 yeah dm the wiener though all right we have martin uh thank you for the 100 man appreciate it blondie

02:02:28.500 you're so annoying that you're making corn stars uncomfortable you said you're hot you're a four if

02:02:34.360 you don't speak thank you non-stop interruptions and screaming into the mic a two also i enjoy

02:02:40.200 leftists alternative lifestyles please stay in california i'm sure we'll all turn around i live in

02:02:46.900 miami i live in a red state well there you have it marquavius she lives in i don't live in la do you

02:02:54.820 have a rating for puffy by the way and you want to give him like on a one to ten like a four

02:03:00.460 all right puffy you asked for it there you have it good all right almost like 50 we have brandon

02:03:06.960 melz here the viewers would rather see me be quiet on the podcast again more than listening to miss

02:03:13.160 raspy any longer holy crap also hi lila i'm a big fan thank you man uh we have another one here

02:03:21.400 from mr doc vanabolus hold on waiting for that to clear that might come through twice

02:03:29.020 one sec doc vanabolus lila you are a gem unfortunately trying to convince the

02:03:34.400 s workers about monogamy is like trying to sell an alcoholic on sobriety it will take a miracle so keep

02:03:40.240 at it can i say something i'm a i'm a monogamous like i only have done this ever with my own boyfriend

02:03:46.580 i like i'm i'm republican i'm not into sleeping around with people that aren't my boyfriend if i

02:03:54.400 have a boyfriend or my boyfriend fucking girls that aren't my boyfriend that aren't talking about

02:03:59.360 you no wait that's not what that's not what it was about what was it about they said the the corn

02:04:04.600 stars i think that but he said the blonde and they're right i think the point is so much i think

02:04:10.800 he's talking to me the point about the monogamy is more about marriage in terms of your body

02:04:16.340 is sacred and beautiful and reserved for someone else and that would include not just actual sex

02:04:21.880 acts but it would include showing your body um you know pornography or sending sexual videos or

02:04:27.520 things like that to anyone else outside of the marriage and i think monogamy you know the research

02:04:32.340 proves that people who are sexually intimate before marriage are more likely to divorce if you look at

02:04:39.960 like the history we're sharing it's all girls being naked and then like the history the research is all

02:04:46.860 like covid being real which wasn't even real so shut up okay that's gonna get us in trouble yeah i mean

02:04:53.100 it's not it's not that's the truth it's that it's me and you have the same core values we're just out of

02:04:58.840 disagreement of we don't see it the same way well i think that that would be different core values no it's

02:05:05.460 not because who did you vote for um we just move on i don't think it has to do with who we vote for

02:05:11.700 because we voted for the same person so you guys don't have same values because you believe in

02:05:16.280 no she just doesn't understand what i'm saying there's a difference between politics and

02:05:20.280 core values there's a huge difference you can vote you can be republican and not have traditional

02:05:25.300 core values i do but you don't have traditional core values you don't know i do know that because you

02:05:31.140 you do you don't think that doesn't make you have traditional core values that's not what you could

02:05:35.600 be a republican i'm not judging you based on your job i don't do only fans i'm not judging you based

02:05:40.700 on your job but just because your job doesn't make you a traditional well doing only fans doesn't make

02:05:45.820 you traditional and here's the thing like i can i can never i can never i can never and i would never

02:05:50.900 judge your heart because i only god can see the heart but what we're talking about is actions and you

02:05:55.920 know dating and relationships that's what this podcast is about and the point we're trying to make

02:06:00.300 here is that pornography at large has been a menace to society i don't consider myself let me just

02:06:05.280 finish for a second it leads to divorce it leads to addiction it has led to the proliferation of like

02:06:10.320 a lot of sexual brokenness and deviancy broken relationships and so you know part of the message

02:06:15.180 is like let's be the change we want to see out there in the world and i want happiness for you like

02:06:18.800 i want you to have that marriage you dream of i think that many people want that and the way the path

02:06:23.900 to that i believe is pursuing virtue and love and that's a choice that includes self-control

02:06:29.880 in not just like how we behave with other people but how we make money because if we're making money

02:06:34.800 through selling pictures of our bodies to incite lust in other people that's going to ultimately i

02:06:39.740 don't think set you up for happiness and i want you to be happy i want you to have that future marriage

02:06:43.260 that you desire well i'm sorry that you don't think i'm a happy person well i think what you're saying

02:06:49.380 you want to be married yeah because you said you want me to be happy she's just giving you like

02:06:53.200 motherly advice i understand that but like all right i'm gonna listen to god and i'm gonna follow

02:07:00.680 my own path and that doesn't have to have anything to do with your path but that doesn't mean i don't

02:07:06.120 have a spiritual connection with god i know that i'm not capital but like you're you're debating me

02:07:12.300 because of like oh i hope i hope happiness for you in the future like i'm good well i think you

02:07:19.040 want to get married we're on different paths though we're on different paths yeah it doesn't mean

02:07:23.820 that i'm not a child of god or i don't pray or i don't have connection with god of course you're

02:07:29.120 a child it's a little bit judgmental yeah i of course you're a child of god i'm just i'm speaking to

02:07:34.460 i think what you're saying is you desire marriage right but i will not settle for marriage that's the

02:07:40.300 thing and i and i don't care if it happens tomorrow at 47 as long as i'm happy in the long run and it's

02:07:49.440 not about what i'm doing it's on my path that god put me on and you are on a completely different path

02:07:55.860 that god put you on christy i don't think anyone's saying any of this stuff you think we're saying

02:08:00.100 about you okay god speaks through people it's possible god may be trying to speak to you through

02:08:05.660 lila who's married with kids you said that's something you desire and i think you're

02:08:10.240 doing a lot of projecting of what you think we're saying and we're not saying 95 of what you think

02:08:15.020 we're saying i actually think the opposite i think she's just kind of you guys are projecting on

02:08:19.280 me yeah i think everyone just has their own opinion and i think we have all the same beliefs

02:08:25.560 i think and you're projecting on me because of my job i think lila just coming from a place like

02:08:38.920 she desires marriage you desire marriage and i think she's just giving you like motherly sound

02:08:42.820 advice i don't think anyone here is like attacking you no i don't think christy thinks anyone's

02:08:47.480 attacking her it's everyone has her own spiritual path and she's my best friend like i know what she

02:08:53.760 wants we meditate together we talk about god together like everyone's on their own path and

02:09:01.100 it's true and i think like you're kind of projecting your path on me and my path is completely different

02:09:07.160 than that that doesn't mean i don't have a godly perspective or connection or anything

02:09:13.120 so i have a question i've got a question for you two maybe you three is it a sin to

02:09:19.240 shoot porn is it a sin yes it is which commandment is that since i just since wait wait since can be

02:09:29.100 forgiven you just go to church of course they can be thank god for that i'm a sinner i actually don't

02:09:33.860 think it's a sin i i'm just shooting a reality show with my boyfriend that people are paying

02:09:38.980 my reality show do you mean like porn like what do you right people are paying to see what me and my

02:09:46.560 boyfriend he's now my ex-boyfriend but me and my boyfriend we're doing behind closed doors people

02:09:53.440 are gonna pay people pay for the dumbest fucking things ever but that's porn that's not reality tv

02:09:58.600 so the reason it's the reality of my life and if people want to pay to see the reality of my life

02:10:03.980 i don't care the question is is it a sin is what he asked and just can all be forgiven and i

02:10:11.160 yeah but don't you need to like if you're trying to be a godly person don't you need to make an

02:10:15.720 effort to stop sinning if you're how am i sinning if i'm only hooking up with one man

02:10:20.480 let me just explain because i i think it can be maybe confusing especially our society so

02:10:25.920 pornified and like sexual objectification is everywhere it's in advertisements it's in movies

02:10:30.000 it's everywhere but the reason porn is looking at porn or making porn is a sin is because of lust

02:10:36.960 and you're either i'm not in porn i'm just let me just finish really quick and you're either

02:10:41.020 intentionally creating content to get someone to masturbate and lust or you are doing the

02:10:46.560 masturbating and lusting they're already doing that the reality is like the design like god's

02:10:51.180 design is that sex is for unity and procreation it's for unity between two people to be emotionally

02:10:56.420 bonded pair bonded in love and then in addition to be able to bring life into the world because sex can

02:11:03.060 do that and one of the reasons you know we russlein kind of mentioned this earlier a little bit but one

02:11:08.140 of the reasons this hasn't been the statistic hasn't been shared yet at this table but there's 2500

02:11:12.820 abortions a day in this country the reason we have the sky high number i've never had a pregnancy

02:11:18.460 scare in my life the reason we have the sky high number is because people don't take sex seriously

02:11:22.840 enough they think sex is just like a recreational thing they'll do it doesn't have to do with

02:11:27.480 commitment and marriage and so people get pregnant because they're having sex when they're not

02:11:30.920 committed and then they choose abortion so it's not what i'm doing all these other problems yeah it's

02:11:36.160 not what i'm doing at all porn porn is a sin the way the way cocaine is drugs the cocoa leaf is not

02:11:43.500 a drug they use the cocoa leaf in south america you can make tea with it the moment you take it

02:11:47.900 and you add all the gasoline and all the other junk to make it cocaine that's the moment it becomes

02:11:53.100 and i think comparing porn to drugs totally makes sense because it's like i've been able to be a

02:11:58.420 person throughout most of my life where i could have a couple drinks and i just don't have this like

02:12:02.520 strained relationship with alcohol i've also gone through periods of time where i was getting

02:12:06.060 drunk every weekend and it was clearly having a very negative impact on my life and i have friends

02:12:10.460 who've died or you know ended up in the hospital and stuff from doing drugs myself masturbation to

02:12:16.820 porn in my life is something that i've never really struggled with in any way i've always had this like

02:12:21.240 completely kind of take it or leave it attitude i've never like yearned to be seeing it when i you

02:12:26.360 know didn't have access to it or anything like that but i have known people throughout my life who

02:12:30.040 clearly had some kind of weird relationship with porn where they needed to see it on some kind of

02:12:34.780 consistent basis so it is hard for me to imagine somebody having a sort of like unhealthy relationship

02:12:39.640 with it but you know i smoke i smoke weed i know people who've basically kind of ruined their life

02:12:44.440 because of smoking weed i know people who've ruined their life because of alcohol and so i don't doubt

02:12:49.520 that there are people that have you know terrible consequences from porn it's just i i don't think

02:12:56.200 that porn is necessarily the problem the problem is people with mental illness or with some kind of

02:13:00.860 hole that they are trying to fill through porn and obviously that alone is not going to help people

02:13:06.160 to you know stop their addiction to porn it's just like anything you make if it's good enough whether

02:13:13.100 it's coke or porn it's like it has the potential to take over somebody's life myself personally i don't

02:13:18.220 really see that as being something that's so common we go to these porn conventions and we meet you know

02:13:22.900 a couple hundred porn fans and i mean are there weird ones sure sometimes but for the most part they seem

02:13:28.640 like kind of regular guys that i don't think would seem that different than if you went to like a

02:13:32.360 comic book convention or a baseball card convention these are just guys who are super into this one

02:13:36.960 thing sure we're gonna move away can i say one thing no we're gonna move away from the point

02:13:42.480 can she say one thing then because she hasn't really gotten is it the same thing you were gonna say no

02:13:46.720 but people ruin their life by having kids and getting married with the wrong people also so that was

02:13:54.440 beautiful okay what did you have no i will say with the abortion contacts i feel like sometimes

02:14:00.020 you could be in a very committed relationship and it's just maybe you don't have the funds or it's

02:14:05.180 just not the right time wait hold on are you both conservative yeah are you pro-life or pro-choice

02:14:11.120 i'm pro-life yeah but it depends what do you mean that you're either so you're pro-choice i'm pro-life

02:14:18.320 i've never been in a pregnancy scare i've never had an abortion yeah but you were saying i feel

02:14:24.840 like it depends if you're in like an abusive relationship the people getting you also aren't

02:14:31.020 married and thriving no but you were making a financial there are people who are married and

02:14:35.120 thriving they're the outlier they're the outlier she's not talking about that's not hold on hold

02:14:39.420 on you you were saying a lot of things happen i agree with you that there's a lot of times there's

02:14:44.440 also women who already have children and they just can't take on most of them are single moms

02:14:48.480 who are really struggling yeah i'm saying people in a context in a covenantal marriage i think i

02:14:53.420 think there's never a context where it's okay to kill an innocent child never no matter like if you

02:14:58.140 have an abusive partner usually it's the abusive partner that wants to kill the baby actually a lot

02:15:02.540 of abortions are coerced when there is an abusive partner statistically but the reality is like if

02:15:08.100 no matter your circumstances if you're with an abusive partner if you're you know you don't like the guy

02:15:12.860 at all that doesn't justify taking the life of an innocent baby i never said it did continue

02:15:18.420 with your point you were saying what i mean i i'm very conservative i've had opposite views on

02:15:24.500 this kind of stuff but i've also been in a very abusive relationship where well let's not shift the

02:15:31.800 goalposts you were you were saying that you you were saying if people were uh financially they

02:15:37.020 weren't in good position do you feel that that would be a circumstance under which abortion is

02:15:42.220 acceptable when they can't afford to have a child well you mentioned something about finances like

02:15:47.840 if someone's not in a good financial position yeah you and you said that they don't have insurance

02:15:52.740 they don't have a job but yeah under those circumstances do you feel that that's an

02:15:57.120 appropriate uh like a a good reason to get an abortion i do if you can't afford to give this

02:16:04.580 child you're you're necessarily you're not pro-life that's pro-choice well that's a pro-choice

02:16:10.400 position and there's two things with that pro-choice position like first of all if you're

02:16:14.260 really struggling a lot of people are struggling right and they get pregnant they're like what do

02:16:17.740 i do first of all there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of families that really want to

02:16:23.300 adopt and they can't because they're on these long waiting lists to adopt second of all there are

02:16:27.420 resources that a lot of people don't even know about which is so sad right that people don't know

02:16:30.900 about them there are thousands of pregnancy resource centers in this country that offer free care

02:16:35.280 prenatal care care for after the baby's born help with housing help with financial assistance so

02:16:39.940 i think the met the pro-life message is there's always a way you know there's always a way to

02:16:44.060 be looking at me and like i didn't talk about this well i'm kind of trying to look at your friend but

02:16:49.420 i apologize i'm not trying to look she's looking in the direction let's let's we didn't really but

02:16:56.080 there's always a way there's always a way to choose life sure we didn't finish off on uh the body

02:17:00.980 count conversation or did you had something or we know i thought we were talking about the um

02:17:06.240 is porn a sin i thought that was a lot i feel like i think we maybe completely don't know from it but

02:17:13.320 uh so i think we just really quick around the table once more uh just maybe even show of hands

02:17:19.860 uh does body count matter yes yes ratio matters it matters in some sense i don't know why it's so hard

02:17:28.120 i have to like kind of like halfway raise my hand because i definitely see the context in which it

02:17:32.620 matters that like it seems like as a guy you could withdraw some kind of conclusion based on the

02:17:37.940 number of uh sex partners i would just say i'm much more open-minded now if i met you and you told me

02:17:43.100 i have 3 800 sex partners then okay body count definitely seems like it matters if you have some

02:17:49.120 astrological number but then should i have cared about you i mean personally i don't think you should

02:17:54.780 have but i also would understand if a girl was going to judge me if if i met you in a bar in

02:17:59.440 another world in which we weren't both married and you said oh you have 606 partners i don't want

02:18:03.440 anything to do with you okay yeah i get i totally get that yeah well in another in another universe are

02:18:08.920 we shipping adam and lila well in another universe just to clarify too like i do think body count matters

02:18:16.680 with the clarification that i believe like what you were saying a lot christy about god's love like

02:18:21.480 i do think that in god's universe when we say sorry sincerely for our sin and i'm a catholic so

02:18:27.280 you go to confession you sincerely say sorry for your sin you say i'm not going to do this again

02:18:31.320 and you commit to that your sin is wiped away so even if you've had a thousand sexual partners to god

02:18:37.520 like he has he can wipe you clean because of that's the power of god's grace and his love and

02:18:41.600 jesus christ death on the cross is wiping away any sin so i think that's an important clarification in

02:18:46.820 the conversation of does body count matter there's a spiritual reality that's so beautiful because no

02:18:52.180 matter what you've done you can change and you can be redeemed and that's incredible that's that's

02:18:57.240 saving grace for me personally it's saving grace for everybody at this table and just just one caveat

02:19:01.400 everything she said is spot on but i would just say the only caveat is sometimes we don't get to

02:19:04.920 choose the consequences and sometimes you can make bad decisions give your life to jesus and then

02:19:10.000 there's still consequences natural consequences i'm not not giving my life to jesus it's just because i'm an

02:19:14.760 only fans model i just want to like you guys i have to ask this on behalf of the chat is it true

02:19:19.880 that you were arrested for attacking a police officer no it's not true i that is kind of weird

02:19:26.060 that they made that up then okay so there actually was like a whole google thing about it because i'm a

02:19:31.480 trump i'm a trump supporter and i actually had multiple trump flags out on my balcony in nashville

02:19:37.420 not very conservative not not really back in the blue when you beat up a cop right i didn't and if you

02:19:42.860 actually look i don't have anything on my record but there was an article written about me about

02:19:48.700 that but it was a lie yeah i i don't have any charges against me i don't my record that doesn't

02:19:53.960 mean you didn't do it that just means you got out of it no i didn't do it i don't believe it i backed

02:19:59.600 the blue it just means that she's not 53 years old somebody just said how do we know she backed

02:20:05.560 the blue yeah i mean like this is the thing like people make people make up a lot of things like

02:20:12.720 you guys don't even think i'm like a conservative traditional person don't worry about it okay so um

02:20:18.640 uh controversy is not a bad thing but i know who i am i'm 33 i'm pretty sure i'm not 53 i see a 67

02:20:28.740 in there yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean if i was 67 i'd be like hell yeah i look good i mean like that

02:20:36.340 would be a compliment if i was 67 yeah 53 okay um thank you for thinking i look like do you think

02:20:42.800 should body count does body count matter it's about the ratio brian she said so many times

02:20:49.500 why are you asking her that if you date a celebrity or a reality tv star someone that's like a big deal

02:20:56.600 their body count is going to be higher naturally because they had opportunities so but then if you

02:21:03.600 date like a regular random person from wyoming their body count and opportunities are so different

02:21:08.980 so no body count does not matter because ratio matters i don't understand why you guys don't

02:21:15.480 understand math here don't ask again right yeah don't ask me again because it's like literally

02:21:21.040 common sense no but but okay excluding the whole ratio thing it depends on who you are and what

02:21:27.400 opportunities you've had in your life what what about you does body are you also on the ratio

02:21:34.380 um you do you i know um no the number thing doesn't matter to me the body count or the body

02:21:44.260 count like ratio okay stop madison yeah i think it matters i completely understand why it matters to

02:21:51.020 a lot of people so it is like does everyone go and like keep a journal count every time they sleep

02:21:56.840 with somebody like write it in their journal i think if you're counting your head i think if you're

02:22:00.520 not just being promiscuous and sleeping with people you don't really so if someone i think

02:22:03.980 it might just mean you aren't out of that many opportunities i have sex i can't hear what so if

02:22:08.980 someone asked you on a first date what your body count was would you be offended or would you think

02:22:12.480 it's a totally normal way to get to know each other i feel like i feel like it's asked me that i

02:22:16.600 feel like it depends honestly like i feel like i've never been asked that i think i don't know i mean

02:22:21.720 i feel like it's a weird question if you don't have a commitment to each other yet yeah i don't think

02:22:25.580 it's something that you should just be randomly asking strangers on a first date i think once there's like

02:22:29.580 an established relationship a connection i think it's because for someone maybe in your space like

02:22:35.420 it matters a lot so then wouldn't you want to know like right away so wouldn't it be like a perfect

02:22:40.840 vetting question i would ask pretty quick yeah me personally yeah first day and what number are you

02:22:46.880 like fuck out here i'm leaving i suppose it depends how old they are if they're older than 25 a bit more

02:22:51.920 25 because that's that's the whole ratio thing oh my god honestly i don't know why you don't

02:22:58.140 understand that yeah no no we get it the lower the better the lower the better but if you're older

02:23:04.500 i think we all intrinsically know it matters i think trying to pretend like it doesn't matter i don't

02:23:09.040 think you know my body count after all this time you know what i know but like we just haven't talked

02:23:13.180 about it we've never is this a whatever exclusive no he's he's always like i don't want to know and

02:23:19.020 i'm like whatever okay no because i said it matters i think you actually did tell me a long time you

02:23:27.880 just don't remember telling me and it definitely matters we can have that conversation later and it

02:23:31.800 matters because our bodies aren't just like orifices for orgasm our bodies are sacred and our spirits are

02:23:38.520 connected to our bodies and so we are human beings not just animals and that's why the body count

02:23:43.840 matters because people intrinsically know that but i can give you a situation in my life in which body

02:23:49.380 count definitely mattered it was like i think i was probably 26 and i was dating this girl who was

02:23:54.220 like 22 and i knew for a fact that she had dated the same guy from like 15 to 19 so she had only been

02:24:00.900 like really she had had one body her whole life up until she like you know two years so like and then

02:24:07.440 she one day just mentioned that she had fucked like 40 dudes or some shit and i just immediately

02:24:12.760 was like oh my god that's like two a month for the entirety of your sexual career besides this long

02:24:19.300 boyfriend phase you're in so i definitely felt like i gleaned some information about how she was living

02:24:24.880 before she started dating me uh that number definitely made me think that she was giving it out a little

02:24:30.660 too loosey-goosey to be honest yeah so i see what you guys wait i've had some long relationships i'm not

02:24:36.520 like fucking everyone around so what if she was making tons of money each time she did that would

02:24:42.180 that have been okay with you oh i mean if she was a porn star for sure like we know porn girls who

02:24:46.120 are you've dated strippers and porn stars so i mean i feel like it's like in some context it matters

02:24:50.300 i mean we know girls who are 21 and because that's the thing when you do porn you end up fucking the

02:24:53.840 same 10 20 dudes over and over and over but just to clarify i'm trying to understand like your

02:24:57.820 world view on this if you're make it so it's it makes you kind of let's move away from let's move

02:25:02.700 away from porn uh can i ask one question one more it's okay if you want to move away

02:25:08.360 adam what what's your body count like 600 ish 600 ish okay all right uh you don't want to share

02:25:19.000 correct i would share but he would tell me not to oh many dozens you would share but but adam would

02:25:26.360 advise me not to and adam would probably be mad i told her a long time ago i'm like don't don't ever

02:25:30.720 tell anyone your exact number just because it's just oh i don't even think it's that high

02:25:34.880 no is range acceptable less than 100 all right there you go uh mine's probably i'm 33 i'm single

02:25:43.380 mine's probably around 22 around 22 okay if i met you it's a pretty low number and i think that's

02:25:51.140 i met you and that was your age and body count i would be like that's super that's actually very

02:25:56.360 low from my perspective exactly i think everyone doesn't understand it is the count i'm not trying

02:26:02.160 everyone doesn't get that i'm a republican and then i date people and then i don't around just

02:26:07.700 because i have a job okay uh what about you no comment okay is it i don't range do you want to do range

02:26:18.360 she wants to do ratio she's kidding she doesn't want to do i don't know you said you lost track

02:26:23.820 i don't keep track of that i don't know but so you lost track 30 ish okay sure yeah

02:26:32.120 um multiply it by three and that's the real number for everybody

02:26:38.860 i'm gonna get bullied again but it's eight

02:26:44.460 the eight at 18 is lila if you want she's putting in work i mean it's just my husband

02:26:50.500 it's one okay three

02:26:53.260 uh just one okay there you have it folks a little bit of nervousness on there you have it we have a

02:27:01.640 chat here from rippy if two men could have a child and those two men are rfk

02:27:06.740 steve-o i think we have a rare view on what their daughter looks and sounds like if she was

02:27:14.480 going through a major identity thank you who do you think would carry the baby rfk or steve-o

02:27:20.580 if they had were to have some sort of gay child yeah i think steve-o would probably i think you're

02:27:26.440 beautiful so don't listen to the chat i already know that's why they're chatting about me well i don't

02:27:32.780 think it's about appearance i think it's it's more so to do with the voice

02:27:36.620 um i think it's that i'm hot as fuck and people are haters and they're hiding behind a screen

02:27:43.400 and i'm probably getting a lot of fans that actually like me and think i'm hot so i don't

02:27:48.360 really give a fuck haters are gonna hate there you have it hi hater controversy does not bother me

02:27:53.700 at all uh so we have a note here one of um it's bren right uh you said in your pre-show information

02:28:02.620 that you sent us that you had a story about something on a highway can you tell us that story

02:28:08.200 shootout that's actually really good okay so one day i'm driving down literally the highway

02:28:15.900 and i see this guy pull up in a truck next to me and i'm like oh he's kind of cute and he's like

02:28:23.440 call me and the number was on the side of his truck so i'm like so i'm like okay i'm gonna call

02:28:29.580 him so i call him and he's like hey i think you're cute i'd love to take you out sometime

02:28:33.500 sure i want to take you out next tuesday and i was staying with my parents that summer i was on

02:28:39.960 college break um so i'm getting ready and my mom comes up there she's like bren your date's here to

02:28:48.620 see you and she looks like a little confused i'm like yeah my date like i'm really excited

02:28:53.240 and i walk outside and he's a legit midget uh i i believe the correct term is dwarf or little

02:29:04.580 person okay i wonder what to say i'm like what's politically correct okay so it was a dwarf yeah

02:29:12.640 okay it was a dwarf person okay yeah so you went on the date no so he like he's like i borrowed my

02:29:20.280 brother's sports car for the night and he like pulls all the way like to touch the brake and he's

02:29:26.160 like i thought we could go to the beach for the night which is like 45 minutes away and i'm like

02:29:31.040 oh dinner right to get dinner how was he gonna drive a sports car with his little leg no he like

02:29:36.760 pulled all the way like oh he's all the way up yes all the way up yeah there's also like things

02:29:43.400 special yeah yeah and like i just he's like all right we'll go to the beach and i'm in my head i'm

02:29:53.040 like i can't do this i can't do this so i text on my girlfriends and i'm like oh my god you have to

02:29:58.100 like call me and say some kind of emergency happened so she did and i'm like i'm so sorry

02:30:04.000 like so and so and this is in the hospital we got to go home and so you lied i did he took me home

02:30:12.340 with but like haven't you ever been asked out on a date with a guy who say wasn't a dwarf but like

02:30:18.940 you kind of knew that maybe like you weren't really feeling it but you just went on the date

02:30:26.300 no i wouldn't waste my time so if a guy asks you out on a date and then like i think the polite

02:30:34.060 thing to do would be go on the date but then just not yeah but i didn't want to waste any of our time

02:30:39.720 well that's how a villain's created but it's all the truth you could have said hey i'm not into

02:30:44.740 little people bring me home i think he knew from her facial expression yeah so then when he dropped me

02:30:50.020 off he sent me a text and he's like it happens to me all the time oh yeah it's okay just for

02:30:56.120 clarification he was you were driving on i was driving so i couldn't see what he looked like

02:31:00.780 you didn't you couldn't tell that i couldn't tell that he was like what four foot i don't know

02:31:07.860 couldn't you just i mean like what else were you doing that night couldn't you have still just gone

02:31:12.140 on the date and even though you had no interest in them just had like a pleasant haven't you ever

02:31:16.640 gone on a date with a guy she didn't want to lead him on which is very respectable you don't want to

02:31:21.660 lead him on i didn't want to lead him on exactly but i think like the i don't know

02:31:25.980 i don't know like one trick i've learned as you went before i obviously got married it's like

02:31:29.500 if you're not attracted just be like listen i really appreciate you going putting yourself out

02:31:33.640 there to ask me out but i'm just not attracted you know but i really wish you the best yeah

02:31:37.560 it hurts a little bit but it's respectful and you know in the end that's i'm just not into

02:31:42.360 would you what what would you do let me give you a hypothetical well i'm down like i'm actually

02:31:47.480 down to date the dwarf so like oh we saw one the other day that catch back in the day in new york

02:31:53.320 i'm in a bar and i'm like i sit down next to this girl and we end up in a full conversation

02:31:57.920 and she seems great we get each other's numbers she invites me to over to her house it's pretty

02:32:02.320 obvious that she wants to sleep together because she's inviting me over her house at like three in

02:32:05.620 the morning and so i ride my bike over to her house in the cold and she's sitting downstairs on

02:32:10.820 the stoop in front of her house in front of her apartment which i thought was very strange because

02:32:14.580 any normal person would probably want to stay inside as long as possible and i go she's like what do you

02:32:19.600 want to do i'm like you want to go upstairs she says yes and she has this kind of like walk when

02:32:23.960 like you know like her legs are like clearly like not moving properly and like i guess she i i lurked

02:32:29.120 her facebook and it seemed like she was in some horrible car accident or something like that

02:32:32.480 but like she clearly thought we're gonna sleep together and i don't know there was just something

02:32:36.860 about her walk that just turned me off so much that i just couldn't do it at all so i've been there

02:32:42.240 before she had a limp she had like you ever been like see a girl's like a horrible car accident her legs

02:32:47.560 kind of like moving in this like crazy direction and you're gonna get canceled adam right i don't

02:32:53.220 care no but then what's crazy is that she starts dating some kickboxing champion and i kept seeing

02:32:57.200 him around town and he kept looking at me like he was gonna beat the shit out of me and i'm like

02:33:00.200 are you gonna beat me up because i didn't want to fuck your girlfriend

02:33:02.300 did you kind of knowing that she was able to snag that that fighter did you have second thoughts about

02:33:11.320 it did make me think like maybe i was a little too close-minded but honestly it just

02:33:15.420 sucked the wind out of the room like i just i couldn't and we were outside but i just i could

02:33:19.760 not find myself attracted to her at all it just i don't know okay yeah me personally i think it would

02:33:27.560 have been polite to still have gone on the date you know because he he drove to come pick you up he

02:33:33.180 got all ready i i think it would have been polite to just obviously not you know have a polite

02:33:40.420 platonic conversation with him and obviously you don't have to go on a second date but it sucks

02:33:46.220 though because that's more leading him on that's more lean that's what i'm saying you're just leading

02:33:50.620 him on even more and he wants to go to the beach and have a romantic beach dinner i just once once

02:33:55.760 you agree to go on that date it's like there's gonna be a moment of cruelty here whether it's you

02:34:00.240 rip the band-aid straight off or you do it like really slow you know yeah it really sucks and then

02:34:04.740 good and ghosted is even worse you might as well just be honest it's true didn't you also have a

02:34:10.580 ghosting situation you're yeah what was that so i dated my ex for two and a half years and um we

02:34:21.860 lived in atlanta together i was in nashville for work i came home one weekend he was gone all of his

02:34:28.680 stuff was gone um and then his dad reached out to mine to tell me it was over and i haven't heard

02:34:37.720 from him since so nice yeah hi brian did you oh his name's brian with an i or why why the worst

02:34:45.180 have you checked on facebook like what oh oh i didn't mention this he got back together with his

02:34:50.060 ex for the third time that sounds like some shit a guy would do if he found out his like that's what

02:34:55.300 i would do if my girl was cheating on me no she wasn't i wasn't the complete opposite some guys

02:35:00.320 are just cowards and they can't say maybe yeah i like i would have married him like i would would

02:35:05.540 have done anything for him and she just if anything he might have cheated on her no i swear like it was

02:35:14.040 like two days prior to that he's like i can't wait to marry you and and and it's like you know when you

02:35:19.940 know something's going on like i don't know it was i had an intuition it's already possible especially

02:35:26.680 if the her boyfriend was already seeing the ex then yeah of course it would have been way easy

02:35:32.060 for him to just cut her off and not say anything yeah super painful i'm sorry it was so painful the

02:35:38.340 worst pain i've ever gone through i had to take leave from work and all that fun stuff but

02:35:44.060 you're better now it just it makes you realize what you don't want and yeah but we live in such

02:35:50.760 a weird world where people just will like walk away from a situation and not even have the

02:35:55.580 conversation like the ghosting thing is so common and it's just like i mean i kind of like got into

02:36:01.820 a relationship like as that was becoming more the norm since we started seeing each other in like 2016

02:36:06.920 but that just is kind of terrible i feel like if anything if you want to be a good guy or a good

02:36:12.320 person always be down to give somebody an exit interview i think just being honest even if it's

02:36:18.220 the worst truth you have to give is better way better than making someone just wonder like a

02:36:22.520 million different things and then his dad teresa that is some pussy ass a lot of men just avoid that

02:36:28.640 because they don't know how to properly like communicate yeah yeah yeah like and especially

02:36:33.380 like firing people i've made this mistake a million times but if you fire somebody and you really like

02:36:38.520 give them your time and explain to them why this job was not going to work out or why they fucked up

02:36:44.340 so bad that you can't continue to employ them or whatever it's probably going to go over okay

02:36:48.920 whereas if you just kind of like let somebody go and don't really tell them what's going on a lot

02:36:53.420 of times that becomes like the angry ex-employee you know

02:36:55.960 ghosting happens bro what there's more stories that's a good one here i'll read i'll read these

02:37:03.460 martin for blondie i'm having terrible difficulty conceptualizing ratios could you please tell me

02:37:08.140 what is the ratio for a delusional woman who believes she's hot and interesting to the

02:37:12.420 desperate men who lie to her for sex please feel free to be as scientific can you ask him to send

02:37:18.920 us um a selfie uh marquavious because i want to see what he looks like because um he's hiding behind

02:37:27.580 his text messages and behind his screen i don't know if he's down to send a selfie he probably isn't

02:37:33.280 because he's probably super ugly guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop

02:37:38.980 us a prime sub twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub thank you oh actually

02:37:43.680 let me shout out uh yo hobo think for the prime buddha think for the tier one steve-o think for the

02:37:49.380 prime mr steak think for the prime panda think for the prime i was caging how do you pronounce that

02:37:57.440 kj and karen thank you for that raid earlier uh and then b star thank you for the prime appreciate

02:38:01.920 it uh wait okay so i'm still caught up on this dwarf thing

02:38:08.400 honesty is the best policy what if he was slanging like puffy vegas like he had a

02:38:18.080 size doesn't matter but he had just a meat cannon no no okay no that doesn't he was a dick smith

02:38:24.460 like adam have you guys done any shiny thing with the little person no not yet although i'm totally

02:38:34.040 open to that people always ask if i'm into the trans thing or if i'm gonna go gay the answer is no

02:38:39.020 but the the midget or the little person i could definitely be open to that okay all right nice nice

02:38:46.900 i don't know you could have gone you could have gone on a date with him that's all i'm saying

02:38:51.520 i think i saved him in the long run i wonder what what would have been like you could have just

02:38:58.640 told him was it better to make the whole excuse about the emergency or would it have been better

02:39:03.780 to have just said i didn't know you were dwarf i know the moral of the story is don't go on a date

02:39:10.660 with a guy that you meet driving on the highway with a number on the side of his truck i wonder if

02:39:16.340 that's his move because probably people can't see it probably is his move okay what if you end up

02:39:21.160 going on a date with a girl like same thing but she's 400 pounds and you don't realize it from the

02:39:25.280 way she looks in the car like yeah i have had that happen to me where i showed up to meet a girl off

02:39:29.740 myspace back in the day and she was massive and yeah i still banged her and you know i just did it

02:39:36.740 anyway because it was like what else am i doing yeah but for sure that's a fair point that is a

02:39:41.620 fair point at all no yeah that's how my body kind of got so high i try to do my due diligence though

02:39:47.260 when it comes to i'm pretty sure i uh would avoid a catfish scenario yeah now knowing what i know now

02:39:54.740 it's like i know exactly what girls are doing to make them look like something different on social

02:39:59.360 media but you know 2003 i definitely did not know that is a fair a lot of girls don't look what they

02:40:06.020 look like in the pictures and stuff so that is true a lot of filters are being used on dating apps

02:40:12.420 i think it should actually be a crime to use a filter a face filter on dating apps well doesn't

02:40:18.320 tiktok like suggest it now too so a girl doesn't even have to like seek out a filter it's just right

02:40:23.880 there but it says when a filter is being used like on all the apps yeah but a lot of guys even the

02:40:28.860 ones who are kind of paying attention probably don't know that there's like video filters as

02:40:32.920 well so like in general if you look at a girl's instagram and it seems like all of her photos

02:40:38.540 have weird effects and like shading and everything looks kind of like blurry or soft and you're

02:40:43.020 probably getting duped i guess that's kind of similar to like what about a guy who's wearing a hat

02:40:48.420 to cover up he might be bald oh yes oh that's all over bumble hat and sunglasses that's the worst

02:40:56.220 holding a fish usually yeah or hunting with a deer like they're always the baldies but that's

02:41:04.480 like well i have a hobby i'm a hunter that's cool and i love masculine men i need a guy with long

02:41:10.680 blonde hair past his shoulders yeah long blonde hair past his shoulders very specific she's all

02:41:15.700 about his blonde man i'm actually pretty biblical and i love jesus even though they don't think i do

02:41:20.660 wasn't he an egyptian i mean i think there's someone for everyone yeah he's called a long

02:41:26.340 one that's the hope man but like the sunglasses with hats on bumble is just and and you know what

02:41:34.580 i also don't like is when they pose with a hot friend wait do you have bumble on your phone right

02:41:39.660 now i have hinge can i look at your profile on your phone i won't show it to the camera can i just

02:41:46.100 see it then i thought we were in a lot of i literally just redownload the other day oh okay

02:41:50.560 definitely okay it's not horrible but it's not yeah her wi-fi has been a little fucked up

02:41:57.020 so she has to swipe like eight times before she gets to it and then she has to search for it yeah

02:42:01.980 okay i've never been on hinge you're missing out adam good stuff you guys were in a relationship

02:42:08.100 before you existed you're lucky i was a tinder guy you're lucky a little bit of bumble in there

02:42:14.300 i'm convinced that dating apps don't work so prove me wrong okay no i love that conservative

02:42:20.060 christian looking for a life partner uh when i need advice i go to taylor swift that's an l

02:42:28.080 no my god you just made a friend yes yes wait every single photo here on your dating app

02:42:36.160 is either filter and or makeup i don't know how much i don't think i think i think makeup's a

02:42:44.000 little uh you brush your hair and put product in it what's that you brush your hair and put product

02:42:48.920 in it this is a little maple syrup it's product i like to put a little maple syrup no i don't put

02:42:53.540 that i don't put anything in my hair i just don't shampoo for three weeks how about that

02:42:57.800 are those not good photos no but you you do have like a filter on every photo like it's 2013 and

02:43:03.720 you just got instagram that's pretty funny i don't think i don't think there's anything wrong with

02:43:08.100 it's like her face isn't changing it's just the shade of color yeah no no filters filters are

02:43:14.500 misrepresentation she's not using filters on dating apps it is horrible it is you you are misrepresenting

02:43:21.540 how you look really it should not yes i think your profile's you need to have at least one photo

02:43:26.060 no no no i think yours is one photo one of the most real ones yeah i don't think i look that

02:43:31.540 different no those filters are od no no needs to be one photo without any makeup or any filter yeah

02:43:37.260 because having a bunch of crazy filters and facetune going on on your instagram is one thing but as

02:43:41.780 soon as you put that on a dating app it is kind of like like i feel like on a dating app you should

02:43:46.980 try a little bit harder to like be representing what you actually look like not that you don't look

02:43:50.500 like those photos it's just like the filters in the facetune let's go actually tell me i look

02:43:55.100 better than what i look like on my dating apps even though this wait what these trolls don't believe

02:44:00.160 you have a dating app right now can i look at yours yeah but i so i'm actually i have two phones and i

02:44:04.540 didn't bring my work phone because my purse is so small today but i'm kicked off of them on this phone

02:44:09.720 i but i do have uh coffee meets bagel on this one you got banned from the dating app yeah you got

02:44:15.720 what were you doing promoting my only fans yep there you go so they blocked this whole

02:44:21.360 i've heard a lot of girls say they got banned for that but i do have coffee meets bagel and i

02:44:25.380 actually read it to her it's a dating app that i wasn't i'll take a look at it coffee meets bagel

02:44:30.180 i'll take a look i mean my profile is like a little bit aggressive but like oh yeah that's great

02:44:35.480 i'll read it um and this was before i had boobs by the way

02:44:39.380 wow that's i mean that's a bit misleading well that is my picture though but i think you should

02:44:46.940 really read what the profile maybe fake breasts are a deal breaker for a guy maybe you should

02:44:51.740 maybe they are maybe they're not maybe i did it for myself you don't like them i'm not a fan damn

02:44:57.180 what if they look really natural i'm not dating you bitch i can tell no but i have plenty of

02:45:02.640 girlfriends where they just look super natural but i got these six weeks ago they haven't even

02:45:06.920 dropped i can't even actually work out you don't like them what's that if they can't even go into

02:45:12.840 a hot tub right no i just don't like it in general i'm not in favor of plastic surgery in general i think

02:45:18.380 you should read like what i wrote like not the appearance both okay both yeah and i'm so fervent

02:45:24.960 i have my non-profit if you lost all your hair would you get a hair transplant no i'd probably just

02:45:30.000 go bald i got two of them you say it till you've been there though i'm probably i'm probably only a

02:45:36.800 few years away from that but uh so okay you're a pilates aficionado let's go brandon okay obviously

02:45:44.440 let's go i have to weed out the week i already knew that was in there i have to weed out the week

02:45:48.740 you want a partner in crime to conquer the world with yeah who should pay on the first date the man

02:45:53.700 i hate feminism and i love toxic masculinity in parentheses toxic masculinity we are not equals we

02:46:01.040 are equality equally the same okay men and women have opposite strengths and weaknesses and that's

02:46:07.080 why together we make a whole uh she's really reading it reading out of the liberals i am on purpose

02:46:13.560 because i'm not dating a liberal interest for whatever pod uh coffee makes basil let's see oh let me

02:46:21.040 look at the photos oh here's the photos read the rest of it what that's pretty much it i think

02:46:25.540 there's two other questions that i answered on there the one is like i don't think anything

02:46:30.820 every single photo on here you're it's either face filter and or makeup and i don't have you're

02:46:38.720 misrepresenting your physical appearance on the dating app but like how many girls actually

02:46:43.640 my hair is blonder that no exactly they should that's my dog this this is my dog dude that's a

02:46:50.640 good looking dog that one's not that's not filtered are you kidding me yeah it's a little

02:46:54.620 misleading this is not she looks like that in person not exactly she looks like this in person

02:46:59.480 fuck off i don't have tits and my hair is blonder and longer this is not face apt this is with my

02:47:06.420 dog but every single one of those photos is you wearing makeup can i tell you something what girls

02:47:11.440 don't wear makeup in there but you know but straight up at least be straight up straight up

02:47:15.600 though makeup i feel like you're gonna hate on me and austin whatever go ahead but straight up when

02:47:21.020 guys meet me in person they always tell me that i look better than my photos do they want to fuck

02:47:25.920 you yeah it's because they're trying yeah no shit they want to fuck me because i'm hotter

02:47:29.400 yeah of course in real life than in photos no what they're doing is they're lying to you to get laid

02:47:34.420 well that's kind of what you're not you're never gonna tell a girl that you think she's

02:47:38.780 unattractive if you're trying to fuck yeah but i mean i suppose some guys might employ that

02:47:42.960 why would they want to fuck me if i were ugly i mean like i know because we're men i know you used

02:47:47.160 to do it but i fucked the morbidly obese just because they were there i i'm not dating that type

02:47:52.800 of people like oh yeah you are you just don't know maybe not morbid but i went morbid you're you're

02:48:00.720 down for more i mean i don't know i was just young and horny i just did it i don't know it's kind of

02:48:05.640 shameful in retrospect but i did it i know i look better in real life so i don't have to like

02:48:10.940 worry about no look you can move however you want i just think it's uh for example if every single

02:48:15.800 photo if every if a guy who was bald say if in every single photo he was wearing a hat i think

02:48:22.160 that i look hotter unfair in real life than this i haven't even updated that yeah that's like tim

02:48:28.320 was to read literally like should your partner share your beliefs yes my needs to believe in

02:48:37.800 freedom and maga with a american flag like you didn't read the actual part that matters i read

02:48:45.220 i read part of it yeah but you only read a little bit of it because you didn't want me to look good

02:48:49.240 on my dating app what are you talking about i wasn't bad because you didn't like my pictures

02:48:52.980 you didn't like my answers and my answers were real as shit the conversation was a real shit dude

02:48:58.460 congratulations the thank you thank you the conversation was about make we were talking

02:49:04.360 about makeup and plastic surgery the only plastic surgery i've ever had are my boobs that i got six

02:49:09.480 weeks ago i haven't had anything else besides for that that's great and yeah a lot of my boyfriends

02:49:16.180 didn't want me to have them and then i decided to just do whatever the fuck i wanted to do

02:49:20.960 and not care about what they thought and i don't regret it

02:49:24.940 take that that's brian i love them okay all right uh wait so uh wait we were having a little

02:49:35.840 bit of a back and forth there you were kind of questioning my take on plastic surgery i was

02:49:42.020 just curious about if it was like a political or like just a belief you had or if it was like

02:49:47.360 based on the appearance because i've seen a lot of really natural looking fake breasts so that's

02:49:51.400 why i was curious i don't think there's what if you fall for a girl and her ass looked really real

02:49:56.960 and then you find that it was fake what do you do then what do you do you have a bbl i have a like a

02:50:02.720 very subtle bbl i guess you could say she waited six months to tell me yeah he was like i have fake

02:50:07.180 hair i was like well i'm a fake ass and my jaw dropped i couldn't believe it so that's why i'm

02:50:11.360 curious like what if you fell for her and then you find out i mean how would i i don't think i

02:50:16.760 could fall for a girl without i have a rhinoplasty what if you like well she changed her nose like

02:50:22.100 who cares well i mean i think there's degrees to plastic surgery that's why i'm trying to get down

02:50:25.740 to the yeah yeah yeah well i think some procedures are more invasive than others i think uh for example

02:50:31.700 like if if i had to list it out for example i think a bbl is much more invasive than uh lip fillers for

02:50:40.080 example um yeah or like implants are more invasive than uh lip but is the degree of uh like i don't

02:50:48.380 know invasiveness on the body is that why you care is it because she's trying to make herself appear

02:50:53.720 more sexy and maybe well i just i i one from a purely aesthetic i don't find it attractive but i'm

02:51:02.900 saying it because like there are a lot of girls who are like 110 pounds who actually do have bbls and

02:51:07.760 you just can't tell so but like i've got a good eye for bbls but when you think bbl you're probably

02:51:13.200 thinking like nikki minaj bbl you're not thinking of like a very subtle appearance sure okay even a

02:51:18.860 subtle one where it's kind of yeah i'm not i'm not in favor of it but if you fell in love with a girl

02:51:24.740 and you found out it was fake how would that but i would know you would not know that's what i'm

02:51:28.460 trying to say there's the plastic surgery she wouldn't tell me yeah why would she tell you

02:51:32.060 especially in the beginning i didn't tell him for a long time i'm just saying like the surgery is

02:51:35.560 getting very very good i would have to see an example of one of these realistic okay i'll show

02:51:42.920 you like a million what if i was on steroids and i never told you like the liver king it wouldn't like

02:51:50.080 be a deal breaker for us but like i just think it's a bit of a red flag let me just finish my point

02:51:55.560 not look no that's good for you live your life just me personally in terms of my prep personal

02:52:02.080 preferences i have a very strong preference for women who don't have any sort of cosmetic

02:52:06.800 surgery and that's fair and there's a sliding sliding you might not know but like i mean fake

02:52:14.880 tits i've got a good idea this is one thing and there's like you know you can you can feel it you

02:52:19.720 can feel but there's a lot of surgeries that you can't tell i don't know it's just like

02:52:23.060 i don't want to date a girl who has acted upon body dysmorphia okay what is a mommy makeover body

02:52:31.760 dysmorphia what do you mean like you know you you you have like a diastasis recti so all your abs

02:52:37.240 separated so then you needed a tummy tuck to put them back together oh but i mean i i'm not familiar

02:52:42.460 with that procedure but perhaps there's it's aesthetic still but it's also like there might be some

02:52:47.100 functionality there i don't know but like let's take a woman who's never had kids uh-huh well for i

02:52:54.960 don't think i would ever date a single mom so uh there's that but okay it's all right it's all right

02:53:01.960 but but like okay maybe this is gonna sound like kind of cringy or simp or whatever but i think women

02:53:10.320 are just beautiful as they are however they've manifested uh so i think they're just beautiful

02:53:16.660 without the need to undergo potentially dangerous expensive and unnecessary cosmetic surgery and in

02:53:23.780 my view i think it actually makes a lot of women look worse and uh you know obviously i think you

02:53:29.840 should take good care of yourself fitness diet hygiene etc but uh for example like let's say a girl

02:53:36.540 who's just totally flat had no boobs i would prefer that than her with like perfect big fake tits

02:53:44.880 same with bbl but you know what i went 33 years of life like that and i was like you know what i'm

02:53:52.400 gonna actually just do what i want to do that's totally fine what if she could and i'm not trying

02:53:57.280 to attract a guy like you so it doesn't matter i'm not i'm not saying this to take shots at you i'm

02:54:01.660 just talking about my preferences and i'm talking about mine what if she's like breathing problems so

02:54:06.080 then she had to get like a rhinoplasty uh well i think that's actually i have a deviated septum and

02:54:12.220 i got you know what if she has a penis and she has to get it removed and also that's a no breast

02:54:17.160 removed that's a strong no go uh no i think functionally if you're having breathing issues i

02:54:23.040 think that's totally fine and if maybe if she kind of uh aesthetically fixes it along the way fine

02:54:29.740 whatever uh rhinoplasty isn't a big thing but like fake tits bbl lipo labiaplasty that's a how many

02:54:37.620 girls do you actually know who have labia but this is the thing is because you have many times said

02:54:42.280 that you don't like a big bodybuilder looking ass dude and you don't like a guy who looks like he

02:54:46.380 puts too much time and effort into his body which a lot of girls will say that that they prefer kind

02:54:50.740 of like a dad bod to a guy who looks like a ufc fighter or a bodybuilder why can't like it's it's

02:54:56.200 kind of almost like the same thing right it's like you don't want a guy who looks like he's like

02:55:00.360 spending all this time but i would have put himself he's kind of saying the same thing he doesn't he's

02:55:03.980 not attracted to a girl who's gone through these procedures to look beautiful he's saying he would

02:55:07.400 never be with a girl like that and he would know right away like if i fell for a guy who had that

02:55:12.200 like five percent body fat steroid look then i would just be like all right i'm sure deep down inside he

02:55:17.440 would probably allow for the chance that it's possible he could fall for a girl yeah he would never he

02:55:22.500 would never go for a girl certain way like she would never go for a dwarf so why can she say she

02:55:28.220 would never want to do that and wanted to get off of the date and you can say you would never go

02:55:32.360 for a girl that didn't have that had surgery and you can't oh well that's just you can't leave the

02:55:36.920 date early but she she can do whatever she wants i know but it's like she has her nevers and you have

02:55:42.000 your nevers so i don't understand what like the whole thing is that she left well it's just it's just a

02:55:46.580 different assessment of what yeah but everyone is there never can you stop interrupting me yeah

02:55:51.220 yeah chill everyone knows it's it's just a difference of what i would view as perhaps doing the polite

02:55:58.620 thing i think hey look if she doesn't if and i definitely actually see the argument of hey if you're

02:56:03.880 just not interested maybe just cut it short and save both people time me personally in those

02:56:08.780 circumstances i would just you know go have a nice night go get dinner but i can also see the

02:56:12.660 other side of it too but just bringing it back to plastic surgery uh i'll take small boobs over

02:56:18.920 fake tits even like for example lipo i'm don't like the lipo belly i prefer a girl with a little

02:56:25.360 little belly fat than perfectly flat lipo belly i'll take a flat ass over a bbl and i'll take a small

02:56:33.160 upper lip over lip fillers uh and uh i don't know just we all got not into it i'm not but guys

02:56:42.400 having preferences is quite often looked at as if they're being like hateful or negative towards

02:56:47.060 women whereas women are perfectly safe to say that they hate midgets and they don't want anything to

02:56:51.240 do with a fat guy or a short guy whatever but like i don't know it is kind of like a weird thing that

02:56:55.840 we do where when a guy has a strong preference it's kind of viewed as like he hates anyone who

02:56:59.960 doesn't fit into that care i just wanted to know like the root of it like what was it why was it like

02:57:05.280 you thought less of those women for some reason or you know uh i mean it's i think partially in the

02:57:10.380 aesthetic thing i don't think yeah you're just not attracted to it i'm not attracted to it i do

02:57:15.460 think it can be i do think it can be a potential indicator of some sort of not always but it could

02:57:24.900 be an indicator of like i don't want to date a woman who's like deeply insecure to the point where

02:57:30.260 maybe it's maybe she wants to do it to level up who knows what the motivations are but i do have

02:57:36.700 a suspicion that some component of undergoing these invasive dangerous plastic surgeries

02:57:43.420 is you're insecure about your physical appearance to some degree to the point that you're prepared to

02:57:50.720 also i mean there's a you know if you're this is someone you want to build a life with uh there's

02:57:57.000 certainly an argument to be made is this like if you're going to be sharing your resources sharing

02:58:01.080 your money joint bank account is she gonna in 10 years have to read read because you have to redo

02:58:06.140 the fake breasts for example i don't know what the case is it's actually like you have to you have to

02:58:11.020 redo it you don't have to do it after 10 years like you might want to but you don't have to so you can

02:58:16.300 just leave it i'm not i'm not for plastic surgery by the way

02:58:20.560 some men prefer natural over fake because they want the genes from the mother and cosmetic surgery is a

02:58:27.320 false perception although yeah that's a good point i think that's a good point i think um

02:58:31.980 if there's something like physically wrong like a cleft lip or oh you know you mentioned like a

02:58:36.620 condition after pregnancy and there's a correction that needs to take place that involves plastic

02:58:40.380 surgery it's totally understandable um but generally speaking i do think body accept you know body

02:58:47.260 acceptance for bodies that are striving to be healthy and care for themselves is a good thing

02:58:52.740 because everybody's different and i think there's someone for everyone that's called to be married

02:58:57.060 the way that they are provided they're striving to be healthy sleeping working out eating healthy

02:59:01.060 and things like that so i think it's a good thing in culture to you know not to be judgmental people

02:59:06.180 that choose that but it's good to celebrate natural beauty and i do think that unfortunately today

02:59:12.780 because of porn in part and also just you know digital media and all this stuff there are these sort

02:59:17.760 of inflated beauty standards that are not not just not realistic but they're actually not the only kind

02:59:23.900 of beauty you know there are all kinds of beauty and my opinion is that any woman who's seeking to

02:59:29.240 be healthy and and personally living a beautiful interior life is beautiful like she has a unique

02:59:34.880 beauty and there's someone for her especially if she's called to marriage so that's the hope for all

02:59:39.240 of us you know i completely agree in all my only fans videos actually when my ex i looked like this i

02:59:45.460 didn't have my boobs i just got them and i didn't face time i didn't face app or and i think you're

02:59:50.600 more attractive like that than you are thank you and you know what a lot of my fans said don't get

02:59:55.140 boobs don't get boobs but you know what i wanted to get them for myself i'm not gonna do it for

02:59:59.060 someone else it's the only surgery i have it's the only surgery i'll ever get but you know what if

03:00:03.800 you needed a hip replacement or a knee replacement or you were in some sort of accident you would get

03:00:08.960 surgery too so like you can't just be against surgery you can't just be against surgery dude

03:00:16.020 i okay that's not my position i still look hot as fuck without tits i get it i just want to do this

03:00:24.420 for myself are you comparing medically indicated corrective surgery to well you're saying like

03:00:31.260 surgery is a big deal and i'm not pro plastic surgery i'm talking about like most yeah i don't

03:00:38.240 i don't object to hip replacements yeah i know but it's kind of hypocritical because how's it like

03:00:43.580 well it's so critical so many people that i know actually have had to get surgery for like health

03:00:50.900 reasons and i i only got one surgery in my whole life a lot of people have had multiple surgeries a

03:00:57.100 lot of people have broken legs arms whatever yeah yeah let me just let me just address your thing

03:01:01.180 really quick i'm not opposed to medically indicated surgery but the fact of the matter we can agree

03:01:07.540 that you think i looked hot without tits sure i'll just agree to disagree stop it

03:01:13.880 oh it's hot as fuck without tits i just wanted them oh my goodness oh sweet but okay sweet all right

03:01:20.980 why are you comparing like someone who needs to undergo like there's so many people that have had

03:01:26.540 surgeries i don't object i don't object to appendectomies it's like not a big deal if someone wants

03:01:34.880 one surgery there's a he's just saying that there's a difference between like a life-saving

03:01:39.020 surgery and like i'm not pro surgeries but basically like she got one surgery but she could

03:01:44.960 have got a lot of surgeries so her ratio is really good right all right all of this sounds

03:01:54.540 extremely complicated where the line is between what's appropriate and what's not appropriate

03:01:59.840 potentially life-threatening procedures like we just saw the young lady who passed away from a

03:02:04.020 mommy makeover it was all over the news super sad left behind a whole family Kanye West's mom

03:02:08.820 yeah Kanye West's mom right so all i'm gonna say all i want to say is and i genuinely i'm not

03:02:14.400 i'm not trying to troll what Kanye looks like no stop stop stop stop interrupting uh what lila

03:02:21.580 said was this beautiful picture of this acceptance in a marriage and also desiring to take care of

03:02:28.740 yourself for your partner to serve your partner right and i've been with my wife 15 years we've both

03:02:34.240 been overweight i've been obese she's had kids we've been we're in better shape now we're lean it's

03:02:40.180 something that's a value of ours my question would just simply be it seems like well we've all tried

03:02:45.760 all of these things we've tried all of these ideologies and all these puzzles that we have to

03:02:51.680 piece together being a conservative christian but still being about all these other things that seem

03:02:55.740 incongruent has any have you guys ever genuinely considered like trying jesus repenting of your sin and

03:03:05.440 really applying god's wisdom yeah adam for your life and i'm not and that's not just not so much

03:03:10.180 genuinely asking you you're armenian our people have a beautiful rich history we're the first

03:03:15.100 armenian nation we didn't have a written language until we translated the bible into a written language

03:03:19.560 we have an amazing which the most persecuted church right so like like genuinely like it seems

03:03:24.500 like we've tried all these other things we've tried doing it our own way we're trying all this idea

03:03:27.480 trying all these where's the line and you know have we genuinely ever looked at at the scriptures

03:03:33.460 and and consider that maybe jesus is who he says he is maybe he is god maybe he's not a liar maybe

03:03:37.960 he's not a lunatic maybe he's not a good prophet and genuinely repented of our ways and tried it

03:03:43.000 god's way i a thousand percent believe in god and jesus and know all of that shit that wasn't what i

03:03:48.940 but you don't understand my point of view i do i do understand like i don't pray every day

03:03:54.640 you're acting like i don't have a bible christy you've proven your point of view to be very

03:03:59.560 coherent i asked you a genuine question my answer is yes to your question so you've repented of your

03:04:06.040 sins you've placed your faith in jesus you've gone to church you've lived your life with god's

03:04:09.400 thousand percent you can't do what you're doing and then also that's your that's your opinion

03:04:15.000 are you god it's written because i would you know no but i'm not god church is not my fault that

03:04:21.940 he ate the apple what are you talking about it's literally in the first person who sinned god wanted

03:04:27.820 us to all be naked and free can we get everybody else to answer the question would that be okay you

03:04:32.020 keep repeating you keep thinking you know god's opinion and you know my thoughts on yeah god gives us

03:04:38.820 the bible oh i live in the ocean of spirituality god's given us the bible so that we can live our

03:04:45.960 lives accordingly i understand i have a bible i understand a bible i understand like what would

03:04:51.880 happen if the all of society actually implemented the wisdom of god like genuine question if people

03:04:56.860 waited until marriage to get married i mean waited wait until marriage to have sex if people didn't go

03:05:01.560 and sleep around and have one night i think people would be way more fulfilled than they are now and i

03:05:05.480 think what we see in society specifically like with our generation is a lot of people try and fill

03:05:10.500 these voids that they have with so many other destructive things that leads them down a path of further

03:05:15.580 destructive destructiveness they're not happy and they keep doing like worse things to kind of fill

03:05:21.860 that void but the problem is i don't think you weren't made to live like this society was built up

03:05:28.000 against god and how we were made like i don't think i don't think someone wakes up one day and says

03:05:33.360 i want to do only fans no that's not what happened and i want to can i finish my thought

03:05:37.560 please thank you i want to someone wakes up one day they say i want to do porn i want to do only

03:05:42.560 fans it kind of starts off with like dabbling into things that you shouldn't and then it leads more

03:05:47.360 down like this path where you're now invested in doing what you're doing now that's what society did

03:05:54.500 i don't believe in societal norms in general societal norms are not godly societal norms are

03:06:02.360 not what god intended us to do but you're not supposed to live no i'm not you don't understand

03:06:08.400 what society wants you to be doing no you don't understand we're not supposed to be lived in built

03:06:14.760 up cities like this wearing shoes i think i'm supposed to be naked and free and connecting to the

03:06:21.340 universe and having a relationship and loving someone do you think god's will is for you to

03:06:27.380 do only fans and porn i don't think god gives a fuck you don't think god no i i don't think he

03:06:34.060 cares what i'm doing for my life because he knows that i'm connected to that's not how this works i

03:06:41.100 don't care that you think that question and it's not a lukewarm question i don't think god doesn't love

03:06:46.980 me because i have a job of course he loves you we're not gonna agree on it dude okay can we open

03:06:54.240 up everybody else yeah uh truthfully i i uh you're asking me about religion specifically about jesus

03:07:02.660 about hedging your faith on the resurrection of jesus i know that and living your life his way

03:07:08.060 i'm a man of god that's all i can say i'm a woman of god yeah i think i'll just leave it at that

03:07:16.080 believe me god knows the truth um personally you know i've done quite a bit of research and digging

03:07:24.460 and trying to convince myself that jesus was a real person or that i should be invested in his teachings

03:07:29.440 haven't really uh been too convinced so i'm still kind of waiting to be convinced that uh this is

03:07:35.500 something i should put my energy into the vast majority of thinkers that i respect uh or read or

03:07:40.960 listen to are atheists so for me personally it's not really an issue like there's just not enough

03:07:46.600 evidence to me that there's anything of value to offer from christianity i think that if we were to

03:07:53.700 be looking for a book that we could kind of base our morality on i don't really think the bible is the

03:07:58.700 best book to live our lives based on it just seems like even within the 10 commandments there's a lot of

03:08:04.340 important stuff that's left out of the 10 commandments and a bunch of bullshit that really

03:08:08.200 doesn't seem like it belongs there so to me it's definitely not happening let's uh let's just try to

03:08:14.340 circle it back to dating and let me do a couple chats here so i have puffy vegas all women i have

03:08:21.980 never met women hello seriously call me at four every woman i've ever interacted gave me a 10 out of 10

03:08:30.080 lenna puffy vegas is very upset like all his photos were with women in vegas i'm confused he's very

03:08:36.960 upset at you he is paying for their time i would guess he uh well every woman gives him a 10 out of

03:08:43.240 10 he might have been paying them would you like to apologize to mr puffy vegas i would like to invite

03:08:49.040 him to come onto my live streams and donate as much money as he's donated tonight because this guy seems

03:08:53.480 like he's doing great i'm sorry for hurting your feelings but i uh had to be honest with my answer

03:08:58.320 honesty is the best policy we have alpha sigma mindset brian love the show keep it up blonde

03:09:04.680 of chick is so delusional i'm currently creating a new brand to help men survive in the world thank

03:09:11.220 you cue for the panel how do we make men great again hashtag alpha sigma mindset we'll go around the

03:09:19.960 panel on this why don't we start with uh lennon go around how do we make men great again oh god

03:09:27.380 i have the perfect man it's so hard to think about how to answer this question you just killed that

03:09:31.500 one that was amazing i love you um actually let me think of all the things you don't do uh

03:09:36.880 how do we make men great again men great again i think what's important is guys like me and brian

03:09:45.080 who are out here bucking the liberal establishment and creating raw content for men teaching them

03:09:51.620 valuable life skills that will allow them to excel in life and not caring about what anderson cooper

03:09:58.300 has to say about it i think that's how we're going to make men great again no joke for podcast go

03:10:02.280 subscribe just an idea there you have it thank you all right uh what about you men are natural

03:10:08.740 providers they're mad they're natural hunters they're natural protectors females are natural

03:10:15.000 caretakers we can push babies out of our vaginas we make homes we make families you make men great

03:10:23.400 again by being protectors by being providers by doing those masculine things that society is pushing

03:10:31.880 against them society is trying to make males create take on feminine energy and females take

03:10:40.320 on masculine energy and they're doing it so that they no one has an identity anymore so they can

03:10:46.540 control us all so how do we make men great again be providers protectors and caretakers do you think

03:10:52.380 men should stop watching adult content in order to be great again i think men should be fucking their

03:10:58.220 wives so no one else needs to watch it but wouldn't that come at the detriment of yourself

03:11:03.240 but i wouldn't have been in this situation that i'm in if there if men were taking care of their

03:11:09.280 women and women were taking care of their men oh so you're saying if you were married you would i'm

03:11:14.200 saying our jobs wouldn't exist if men and women were living the way god intended them in the first

03:11:21.860 place i'm just curious how do you wipe my ass because the nails are girls girls don't poop you

03:11:30.020 know that right this one is this true yeah is this true she pooped in front of me on like we don't

03:11:36.260 fart either we don't sweat we glisten wow i'm learning anatomy tonight i know wow we're doing coke in the

03:11:43.160 bathroom did you not do science just kidding just kidding i don't know why uh okay but i've heard the

03:11:50.380 strategy is you have to wrap the toilet paper how do you wipe hey madison can you get some toilet

03:11:56.780 paper over here i've never taken a shit in my life i don't do anal you could still shit uh i never

03:12:03.820 have how do i have these white nails so clean it's not so much the color of the nails i'm just like

03:12:09.900 because doesn't it make it like i'm just thinking the logistics of yeah but you don't think a lot of

03:12:15.120 things through so you know what do you what do you mean i think well what what have i not okay so

03:12:20.240 i i mean i i do pee and i do wipe myself and my nails don't get in my way you know when nails

03:12:26.480 actually like this get in your way or when you're wearing very thin leggings and you try to pull

03:12:32.160 them up and it pokes holes in them that's the only time it gets in the way you've poked holes in some

03:12:37.920 leggings before when it was back in the day and the sharp nails this was in like 2014 when the sharp

03:12:45.600 nails were in yeah i poked a lot of so you never got any poop on your fingernails no no except for my

03:12:52.400 dogs except for my dogs not of mine thank you uh we uh how do we make men great again go ahead bren

03:13:00.960 no i just feel like the apps have hurt us more than they help us so it's like these guys just

03:13:10.480 think the next best thing is to swipe away isn't that what the women think too not really i don't

03:13:17.360 know i feel like it's women who want the relationships and it's really up to the men to determine if they

03:13:22.480 want to then go ahead and pursue them like in my like from what i hear from my friends it's always

03:13:26.880 the woman who wants to like have the relationship and then it's the man who's like women overwhelmingly

03:13:31.520 options for men women overwhelmingly end relationships what's the stat on that yeah

03:13:37.440 women are well i mean we could i don't know if they've done i don't think i've studied yeah where

03:13:43.280 did you get these stats well okay let's speak about marriage women are more likely to initiate divorces

03:13:48.080 but also i would say that this stays true even in relationships but of the women here at this table

03:13:54.000 uh let's just more often than not when it in uh when you're talking to a guy whether it's

03:14:01.840 you've been on one two three dates with him or you've been in a long-term multi-year relationship

03:14:06.480 with him more often than not are you ending things or is he ending things uh let's maybe start with you

03:14:13.200 i'm trying to think um my relationship before him was with a girl so i don't know if it counts but

03:14:18.960 maybe with a guy let's say i guess um in the dating space i feel like it was pretty split but i feel

03:14:25.360 like the the guys they just ghosted yeah yeah the guys want to play the game and bang every single

03:14:31.120 girl that they can and the girls are you know kind of begrudgingly giving up some pussies so that they

03:14:36.000 could try to get the guy to take them serious as a possible girlfriend candidate it totally depends

03:14:40.480 on like what your dating pool looks like based on what you allow i'm just kind of describing la for the

03:14:45.040 most part you know there's a lot of crazy people everywhere people who live crazy lives but there's

03:14:49.680 also a lot of people who are trying to live good lives and i think the key is just people finding

03:14:53.680 each other that share the values and that can be really hard i know a lot of singles are complaining

03:14:57.760 like it's so hard to find somebody but you know i think if you're putting yourself into places where

03:15:03.040 there's other people that share your values then you're more likely to find them and you're not

03:15:06.640 just going to find the people that are looking to sleep together you know or just have sex with you

03:15:09.520 and then leave but i do feel like with the dating apps it's like i think both parties feel like oh people are

03:15:13.680 just disposable like that's so sad yeah yeah no and i remember like i used to my way of meeting

03:15:19.760 girls was just going to bars and clubs and just trying to talk to random girls and i learned a lot

03:15:24.000 of like you know real you know helpful techniques and tactics on like how to communicate with people

03:15:30.480 in my life through that and then at some point it kind of became like tinder and bumble and the game

03:15:36.160 for me in my head of like you know just sort of being in the mentality of trying to get some new

03:15:41.120 girls every week was just like oh i'm gonna sit here for a half hour at a time and swipe on this

03:15:45.520 app and write the same message over and over and it just started to feel kind of gross and that's

03:15:50.000 like that's why i think i was kind of primed to get into a relationship around the time i met her

03:15:53.920 because i had become sort of disgruntled and unhappy with where i was at relationship i think i think it

03:15:59.920 totally depends on your goals going into it because if you're going into like a dating app experience

03:16:04.400 with okay i want to have a hookup or i'm expecting sex before commitment or things like that you're

03:16:09.600 going to get a totally different outcome i think typically speaking then if you go into it saying

03:16:13.840 i'm dating to ultimately find the one to marry and that's the person that shares my values i'd

03:16:18.960 raise kids with you know i'd want to like build a family life project with so that really i think

03:16:24.000 is a natural filter when you look at who are the options and then you'll also find like yeah dating

03:16:29.040 apps are powerful and can i met i know a ton of people who met their spouses through dating apps so

03:16:32.880 they can be really effective but then couple that with you are you putting yourself out there like

03:16:37.120 going to places that you think you could meet that future spouse too i think that combination

03:16:41.520 is back can maximize success but if you're just getting together with people and you're like having

03:16:46.320 sex on that first date or just you know sleeping together before marriage you're that's that's a

03:16:49.920 different value set that you're engaging and that you know what is what is the goal what is the goal of

03:16:55.280 of your dating i think it has to be the question of every person getting into it i actually completely

03:16:59.040 agree with you and isabella i think i've been misunderstood by both of you but that's

03:17:04.240 actually how i go into every single potential date and person that i give a chance to date

03:17:11.360 that's awesome and i'm very very picky i have my intuition but like that is the mindset that i go

03:17:19.680 into everyone that i give a chance to and attempt to date whether it lasts a month three months six

03:17:25.040 months a year etc but and and then going back to your point i do think that the female naturally does

03:17:33.280 want the relationship more than the man and i think i don't think it used to be that way i think

03:17:39.760 the dating apps created like the fuck boy like the it gave guys too many different options no but

03:17:48.560 that's biological because guys have always been able to create a child or you know have sex with

03:17:54.400 someone and then just keep it moving and then the woman has to deal with the long-term ramifications

03:17:58.000 yeah you said too about like the chase like how men are hunters and i do like believe that and i

03:18:02.960 think that the dating apps both for men and women makes it really easy for women to not be pursued and

03:18:09.440 men not have to chase and people think that it's you know men that are just really wanting like to

03:18:14.400 hook up women are just as bad too and i've seen it like even but but at adam's point like you said

03:18:18.880 earlier before lena like you were sleeping with all these girls and you were unfulfilled and that kind

03:18:23.920 and that that experience of realizing hey this isn't fulfilling me like hooking up with all these

03:18:28.240 girls is not fulfilling me and then you fell in love with lena and you want to build a life with

03:18:31.920 her alone i think that shows like men are i know this is unpopular people don't like saying this but

03:18:38.160 i think men are made for monogamy i do and i think that you know ruslan my husband there's a ton of men

03:18:43.760 living that maybe they're not on social media talking about all the time but i know dozens and

03:18:47.920 dozens of men who are living that yeah and they're happy that way you know they're fulfilled that way to

03:18:52.320 piggyback that monogamy is in the man's best interest if we're talking hunters and gatherers

03:18:56.560 who's going to take care of the kids your offspring don't survive if you don't stick around right

03:19:00.160 second thing i want to say is we're talking about what would make men great again i think ultimately

03:19:03.520 is the ability to delay gratification and if you don't have that you're going to just run through

03:19:08.640 as many girls as you can creating more women or high body counts creating more unwanted pregnancies

03:19:13.440 and so i think men to be the priest provider protector got to get back to learning how to delay

03:19:18.640 gratification not just give in to all their fleshly desires lila what can we do to make

03:19:23.600 men great again did you answer that i haven't answered that yet um had a great point just now

03:19:28.480 how do we make men great again i think men are already made to be great innately i think they're

03:19:33.600 made in the image of god and i think that men pursuing virtue and you can't pursue virtue if you

03:19:41.280 don't assent to a higher morality like if you say i get to decide whatever morality is and i'm just

03:19:45.840 going to do what i feel like you're never going to be who you're made to be you're always going to be

03:19:49.680 limited by your next impulse your next lust your next immediate fleeting desire lifelong happiness

03:19:56.480 and that all the social data proves this too lifelong happiness comes through growing in virtue and

03:20:01.840 having for those called to marriage that lifelong committed exclusive monogamous marriage and i want

03:20:08.000 that for men i want that for women and we just have to say this openly and like not denigrate men and

03:20:13.200 say oh men can't do it or women are more sluts and can't do it no we can all rise above and do it

03:20:18.320 200 yo matthew thank you man hey brian here with bubala emily make it right oh hey guys we love lean

03:20:25.040 and adam you two are an inspiration for us in our relationship as we are also quite non-conventional

03:20:31.520 we wanted to ask have you two ever experienced jealousy if so how did you navigate it isn't this

03:20:37.600 the boyfriend of the girl who was on the most recent stream that we listened to on the way here

03:20:42.080 see i'm getting my whatever knowledge up yes that is do we ever experience jealousy for sure especially

03:20:47.280 early on like when we were doing threesomes and stuff she would get quite jealous and you know

03:20:51.920 even me more recently with the jason love plot line i definitely was a little jealous at first i mean

03:20:57.600 for us being people that do porn it's something where we kind of just have to navigate it because it's

03:21:03.360 sort of part of the job but i i mean even i i feel like a huge percentage of people that i know in

03:21:09.040 relationships you know i have a friend who i seen him like you know get into an argument with his

03:21:13.440 girlfriend because she went to the store with a sports bra on and just to like buy something and

03:21:17.840 that kind of like clicked in my head of like oh shit like every guy is dealing with jealousy to

03:21:23.680 some extent you know like uh even if it's something way more minor than the stuff like that i might feel

03:21:28.880 you'll think about i don't know what about for you i feel like in the beginning of our relationship

03:21:33.280 when i wasn't really sure where we stood where we were dating and i wasn't sure like how much adam

03:21:38.160 really liked me but we were having threesomes i feel like i got like a little bit more jealous

03:21:42.480 because i felt more in competition with the other girl even though i was like really enjoying the

03:21:46.720 experience and it would bring us closer afterwards but as we did more and more threesomes i got more

03:21:52.400 desensitized to seeing him with another woman like it didn't like really do anything for me

03:21:57.120 i mean to me but once in a while like yeah i'll get like a little jealous because the other day

03:22:01.760 we did a plug talk episode where we interview the girl and then sleep with her after it's our

03:22:06.000 genius podcast available at onlyplugtalk.com he was like commenting on certain instagram pictures

03:22:11.040 she had like oh i've seen this one picture of you you look really hot and i was like hey

03:22:14.240 like and she told me afterwards i got like annoyed yeah she felt a little jealous because she was able to

03:22:19.200 actually picture me looking at this girl's instagram seeing her in a certain pose in a certain picture

03:22:24.640 and being attractive enough to follow her back and dm her and ask her if she wanted to come on the

03:22:28.400 show and so i say that to just say that i think some degree of jealousy is is totally normal or even

03:22:33.680 like while she was pregnant there was one time where i did a podcast with a bunch of drunk girls and

03:22:38.960 one of them was like pawing all over me just like grabbing at me and stuff and just being way too

03:22:43.120 extra and she was like very jealous afterwards and it was like almost like a reminder to her of like oh i do

03:22:49.520 care about you because like you know after the pregnancy or while pregnant yeah but like you you

03:22:54.240 thought like in that moment you said that you had kind of lost the ability to be jealous because you

03:22:59.200 were so well to be honest it was like the sleep deprivation but do we feel like jealousy needs to

03:23:05.040 exist in a healthy relationship i just think it's kind of inevitable at some point you know but if it's

03:23:09.440 not there is the relationship unhealthy not necessarily but i think it's kind of like a sign of healthy

03:23:14.720 relationship but also if it takes over your relationship and you find yourself like

03:23:19.120 obsessing over it especially when the girl really hasn't done anything wrong or vice versa then that's

03:23:24.240 probably a sign that i don't think me and my wife ever put ourselves in situations where the other

03:23:28.320 one is jealous so i don't think it has to exist we just have boundaries with each other and other

03:23:32.640 people well and i think like another thing is like being i think you used the word desensitized at

03:23:36.240 one point lena and i think that we are sensitive as women and as men to when we're in a marriage

03:23:42.080 especially or any relationship really to that other person being with someone else because i think

03:23:46.560 again back to monogamy like i think that is we're naturally wired to want that and so the the thing

03:23:51.920 is like what russlein is saying and like my in our marriage it's like how do we respect and like

03:23:57.040 protect that vulnerability yeah because we don't want to make the other person jealous you know we

03:24:00.720 don't want to create space for that in the relationship and that's where fidelity and boundaries can be so

03:24:05.680 powerful to protect that really precious thing which is your intimacy i mean there's nothing more

03:24:10.240 precious in my life besides my faith and my my intimacy and i know that that you know you've

03:24:14.800 said that that's really valuable to you guys too so okay madison uh how do we make men great again

03:24:20.560 oh gosh um i think that in this world in modern day society a lot of men have very high expectations or

03:24:28.160 just people in general have very high expectations of men and to truly make men great again honestly just

03:24:36.160 truly discovering yourself finding your unique purpose in this world like societal norms aside

03:24:43.120 like don't try to be someone that everyone wants you to be just trying to find yourself

03:24:48.480 and trying to be someone that you want to be beautiful isabella what about you um i would say

03:24:54.000 probably adding on to what lila had said just by embracing their masculinity i think society puts

03:24:59.120 down men a lot of a lot of their intrinsic biological nature is like protectiveness and

03:25:04.400 you know all these things and wanting to be a provider as and they label them as toxic

03:25:09.120 and so i think that men kind of feel afraid to actually be men and i think if they embrace

03:25:14.960 their masculinity we can make men great again all right i completely agree with that me and you are

03:25:20.320 actually on like the same page about a lot of things besides for my job besides for that

03:25:26.800 she concurs all right we have marquavius martin here brian i just sent my picture to your email

03:25:31.360 pull it up on your phone and uh show it let's make sure we do a google reverse

03:25:37.200 wait do they not know my name this is really him then after she's in love i can reject her please do

03:25:42.800 not show it to the audience you know i need to keep my anonymity because of my companies uh so i'm just

03:25:49.040 going to show it to you you know this guy in real life even i know that's a good looking guy he's

03:26:03.600 at least that photo like why don't you know my name what's his rating can i see it can i see it like

03:26:11.760 that's how you i normally only like blogs but he looks yeah he's a handsome guy that's a handsome

03:26:16.720 guy wow hit me slide in my dms i would like he doesn't know my name he has saved he's a good

03:26:23.440 friend of mine marquavius he has saved me from a shark attack oh we're out we were out surfing

03:26:31.840 together in malibu you guys surf one time in hawaii and it was amazing i want to do more of it

03:26:36.800 you gotta you gotta do more well you're more bmx guy right do you still you still ride not

03:26:41.120 really yeah injuries behind for podcasting and old age okay well he saved me we were out surfing

03:26:47.920 malibu there was a shark and like he just like punched the shit out of the shark wow saved me

03:26:53.040 are you making this up oh i swear to god yes yeah he was like he was on it he scared the shark away

03:27:00.160 hit him right in the nose um also he's a very wealthy man he owns like 300 chick-fil-a's so

03:27:05.760 does he have friends do you really know this guy yeah he's legit i think 300 my name is christy

03:27:13.600 it's not blondie you can't have 300 chick-fil-a's oh sorry sorry waffle house waffle house my bad

03:27:18.160 my waffle house they're making this up why are your friends emailing photos on sunday but i don't

03:27:24.640 actually know how we uh emails faster do you seed oils all right we have a big 500 super chat

03:27:35.760 from x5 podcast hey thank you man really appreciate your patronage thank you the blonde's voice sounds

03:27:42.320 like she ate a concrete how come no one knows my name is christy like i'm not the only blonde it's

03:27:47.680 weird that we all know it's not about this yeah exactly like why don't you call me by my name it

03:27:53.680 would be more offensive because it could it could i think they just started with blondie in the beginning

03:27:59.040 of the pod and now it's just kind of i i mean i like being i'm just curious how can one eat a

03:28:06.080 concrete patio yeah a patio yeah a patio take the rest of your life i think i i think it wouldn't have

03:28:12.560 tea oh is it gravel or maybe like that's a lot of money for a mean comment yeah a lot of money thank

03:28:19.840 you but can you just call me christy from now on because that's what my parents did you ever hear

03:28:24.400 about that guy who ate a car he means christ actually he like took every single different

03:28:30.560 part of the car and like grinded it down into like ball like tiny little chunks and progressively ate

03:28:35.760 it throughout the course of his life no he grinded it down to such tall tiny everything i think so

03:28:41.600 yeah yeah isn't there like dangerous chemicals and and like engines and well he probably didn't do

03:28:46.560 like the oil or yeah there used to be like a tlc show on that where people would like yeah where

03:28:51.680 they would like eat like these things there's like a drywall a mattress a tire i told you a

03:28:57.760 weird story i don't know if i'm allowed to tell it on the podcast though we should probably air it's

03:29:03.440 about someone eating doll heads repeatedly i think that's okay but doll heads actually okay so my ex-boyfriend

03:29:12.720 he has a lot of doctors in his family and one of them he had this patient that was a male patient

03:29:20.160 repeatedly eating barbie doll heads and he kept having to give him surgery because he kept

03:29:25.520 repeatedly eating the dogs and then finally he was like was he uh i can't call you can't come back to

03:29:32.080 me but the only reason why he was eating the barbie dogs is because every time he pooped him out he would

03:29:37.920 come so he sounds like a well-adjusted guy i think that's worse than porn i'm not gonna lie

03:29:43.680 only being able to come by shitting i don't know why he didn't just put the doll up his ass instead

03:29:51.200 of eat it and the doctor's like i can't keep performing this time the doctor had to refuse to

03:29:57.360 keep giving him surgery it was too much yeah yikes what the fuck i think it was a little bit worse than

03:30:05.040 only okay all right we have we have socal surfer 805 bro question for the gals i love smashing girls

03:30:12.880 and it's a hobby to make girls come vaginally okay everybody the pussy oops uh with that said fat

03:30:20.400 cocks bro hello why you make make girls come easier what do the girls think about

03:30:28.240 penis enlargement surgery no i have seven inches but want a fatter hog thoughts if it's really seven

03:30:35.120 that's pretty solid to be honest i feel like you should probably just accept what god or whoever

03:30:39.760 gave you yeah don't get maybe use some vibrators too well so show of hands would the girls be cool

03:30:46.640 with a dude who had you got to take that to the grave i would never i would never i don't think it

03:30:52.480 that surgery actually works isn't that a double standard though yeah see girls are inherently turned

03:30:57.040 off by guys who have like i actually when i'm talking why are you talking like i had already

03:31:01.760 started talking so you just yeah it's true he was talking it's the whole like not interrupting

03:31:06.720 thing that you seem to really be struggling with but like why is it that everybody was talking about

03:31:11.120 brian like he was some sort of sick because he is turned off by girls who've had surgery whereas

03:31:15.760 like every girl seems like they inherently have it within them that they think a guy who puts a little

03:31:19.920 too much effort into his physique is kind of an oddball right but i think we all agree that we don't

03:31:25.040 want it is a double standard because like a lot of i think a lot of girls would be turned off like

03:31:29.280 if a guy got bicep implants or like bicep they'd be like it looks kind of weird that's how that's my

03:31:34.880 thought and even a guy who spends a ton of time in the gym and is super serious about his fitness and

03:31:39.440 his food like a lot of girls are going to look at him like that's a little weird oh adam did you see

03:31:43.360 that this was like 20 years ago on mtv it was like this weird mtv the calf implants such a legendary

03:31:51.520 part of my childhood i've seen that a bunch of times yes he got huge calf implants and that that

03:31:56.320 was like the moment for a lot of us where it seemed like we realized like oh dudes have mental

03:32:01.600 illness when in terms of their body too because this guy was so clearly like deranged they just

03:32:06.640 thought his calves weren't good enough it was a watershed is that yeah yeah that probably is a good

03:32:11.200 use of that but i think in general though like a lot of guys have a really hard time growing their

03:32:15.040 calves so that is a frequent complaint and the stereotype is that black guys have a hard time

03:32:19.360 growing their calves do you think part of it could be that the guy isn't willing to put in the work

03:32:24.240 to actually get it well that's that's the crux though right neither side is willing to put in

03:32:27.840 the work to get it and that's why we frown upon it but the calves in particular it's such a genetic

03:32:32.400 thing and a lot of guys can go crazy on their calves and they'll never grow so i guess that's why

03:32:38.640 to make a happy relationship like there's way more than physicality like the calves aren't there

03:32:44.320 it's just well i mean physicality obviously matters it totally matters but there's a lot

03:32:49.680 more that goes into it i've done a lot of calf raises in my day and i'm not sure they really

03:32:53.440 do too much but it might be my my genetics just suck all right we have a chat here from puffy vegas

03:33:01.520 wait is this again yep i dated thousands of women of thousands of women of beautiful women

03:33:07.040 i want on your channel now that was the guy that you just showed us wait is this the third time

03:33:13.120 not this guy uh the it was the black oh right okay yeah yeah come on through yeah love to meet you

03:33:19.040 we'll have him on the show one of these days all right i think we're caught up on chats here i'm

03:33:24.880 trying to think where we had left off uh you were saying something about in one of your pre-show

03:33:31.280 messages chivalry is dead yeah and you're upset by that chivalry is dead yeah so like what's an

03:33:37.440 example of guys not being chivalrous anymore even like opening the car door for you oh yeah gotta do

03:33:44.720 that but what about the sidewalk rule the sidewalk rule sidewalk yeah i think it's better for the

03:33:52.480 woman to be closer to this side like the where the closer to the cars because you know um why well i'm

03:34:00.160 just like well maybe the air conditioner is going to fall down and hit you but also how likely is it

03:34:06.720 that a car is going to come onto the sidewalk and hit us and somehow only hit me because i'm on the

03:34:11.680 outside and not hit you as well it seems like you're preparing for something that's incredibly unlikely

03:34:15.520 protect her a little bit more yeah so you could like angle this a couple different ways you could

03:34:21.120 say well like let's say you're walking past an alleyway you want to be because the alleyway is going to be

03:34:26.880 closer yes okay i actually have an example of this for my boyfriend of two weeks a few weeks ago we

03:34:33.520 were walk actually walking down alleyway and there's this crazy homeless man and he had me walking right

03:34:39.040 by him and in my head i'm like wouldn't you just go on the other side no naturally so he let you be

03:34:45.840 closer to the this is getting kind of classist here but um how do you know he was crazy or is

03:34:55.440 it just because he was homeless he was homeless therefore he was no he was like oh excuse me he

03:35:01.360 was being crazy like yeah like screaming out he's like fuck jen like you know sounds like a good

03:35:09.680 time it's just not that hard to figure out it was great yeah and i felt uncomfortable chivalry's dead

03:35:16.160 though yes like what like i look at my dad and how he treats my mom sure and i and i talked to them

03:35:23.360 about this the other day like i'm like i'm gonna be 35 in december and you know i thought by now okay i know

03:35:31.360 that'd be like married and but it's like i have so many girlfriends that are in the same boat because

03:35:36.400 it's just like men aren't built the same way like our dads were back in the day but are women built

03:35:42.160 the same way yeah i mean i think men and women are both to blame like i feel like i also look at

03:35:48.560 my parents relationship and like my mom and my dad have been together since my mom was 16 years old

03:35:53.760 they had me when she was 21 and so like when i turned 23 my mom was like oh i already had like

03:35:58.640 two kids who went on the way at your age i think times are definitely different but i think that

03:36:03.120 like yes i don't think men are as chivalrous but i also don't think women are what they were

03:36:08.960 but i think it's because they started having to well actually multiple things one like i don't want

03:36:16.560 a job i want to be a mom but there's not chivalrous men anymore so i'm not gonna settle but also like i

03:36:23.440 hate fucking feminism and feminism made women have to start going to work and like pride themselves

03:36:28.960 on that i don't want a job well i think i don't want to be poor i want to live a nice lifestyle

03:36:34.080 and until i meet the right man i'm gonna just do only fans and live better than most of my friends

03:36:40.400 you don't think you attract what you are though um i think me and my ex-boyfriend we started dating

03:36:47.200 way before my only fans that wasn't what i was talking about yeah i i believe in the law of

03:36:52.080 attraction i believe in quantum physics i that wasn't i meant like who you are in the season of

03:36:57.120 life that you're in your character is going to attract that type of person yeah but you why do

03:37:02.160 you think my character is bad just because of my job i think that he's just saying that hypothetically

03:37:06.960 i would love to attract who i am because i'm super funny i'm super smart i'm super patriotic i'm super

03:37:12.720 witty i'm super fast i'm super duper hot i would love to attract who i am i think he's just saying

03:37:19.120 yes that would be amazing you're also very that's the reason that's what i'm waiting for i would love

03:37:25.520 to attract i think he's just saying like if you're demanding like not demanding but you're saying like

03:37:30.320 okay i want marriage i want to be able to stay home i want kids like how can you kind of justify

03:37:35.280 wanting those things i don't bring anything to the table do you know what i'm saying i have a lot

03:37:39.600 of because how can you demand can i finish please when you demand things from men like

03:37:44.960 i want to be able to stay home i want to be self-sufficient on a salary i want children i

03:37:48.800 want to be wiped up i want to live like this stay-at-home life but then what do you bring

03:37:52.800 in the table besides like okay i'm hot and i'm funny like what do you bring actually i make like

03:37:59.280 more money than usually everyone that i don't think men are attracted i don't want that dude i'm just

03:38:05.760 saying i'm not going to settle down and i'm not going to be poor and i'm not going to live

03:38:10.320 not like i'm living like life on vacation every day in miami until i meet that person i think and i

03:38:16.880 i don't think you should be judging me i think we have the same beliefs overall and i think

03:38:22.080 we're on different paths and i like i want you to i want you to watch this back because i don't

03:38:26.400 think i don't get detached from reality i get it i get it i get it dude i think what he's just saying

03:38:33.760 i want you back the lifestyle that you're living isn't in line with what you're wanting

03:38:38.480 that's nice thank you for thinking that thank you for thinking that that's what i know but in your

03:38:42.560 dating profile you did say something about like you wish like guys would pay or guys no no it was

03:38:47.760 men should pay for the first day right that's kind of like the chivalrous thing yeah of course

03:38:51.360 they should so that's like kind of a traditional thing the guy should pay for the first date yeah

03:38:55.440 but like you know you know what i mean no no i don't know well okay like i don't know what your

03:39:02.480 point wouldn't the traditional like yeah yeah i'll i'll explain it so

03:39:10.320 you do bg boy girl content right with my with my only with my boyfriend at the time now he's

03:39:16.880 at the time but it's still online correct yeah so isn't it kind of like non-traditional to have

03:39:21.040 like videos of you getting by another dude guys don't seem to give a they actually i mean

03:39:26.640 i don't think you can really be like can you really be sure i don't think they care to be

03:39:32.800 honest guys don't care guys definitely yeah some guys might but the the it has not affected my dating

03:39:39.760 life you've been dating a guy for a month dude i've been talking to people longer than that right

03:39:45.120 because i'm judging me i'm not judging you but you're also how old and not married so what does it

03:39:50.400 matter yeah but i've just got out of a longer relationship but you're saying that because i

03:39:55.440 don't want to get married and get divorced but that's not because divorce is also a thing it is

03:40:01.040 that's not what any of us are saying i think we're just saying that you're demanding traditional things

03:40:05.040 from traditional men but you are not you're not a traditional woman and you're not offering anything

03:40:10.000 that's traditional in any thank you for your opinion i think to like thank you for your opinion i

03:40:14.240 think with the chivalry thing i i get i hear people women complain a lot like oh men aren't chivalrous

03:40:19.120 anymore i also hear men complain that women aren't being like ladylike or feminine anymore so there's

03:40:25.280 like all these complaints basically i think in some ways especially you see this on the internet but

03:40:30.160 the sexes are at war right like we don't know how to be harmonious together and i think the through

03:40:36.320 line there's two through lines morality like those guardrails of like what is a good what is it to behave

03:40:41.920 well towards each other is one thing and then the second thing is growing in virtue it's like how do we

03:40:46.560 grow as human beings so that we can try to behave well with each other and love each other well

03:40:51.760 because otherwise we're always going to be fighting and there's always going to be this

03:40:54.400 either competitiveness or this anger or this just always this disunity but the unity can be found i

03:41:00.480 believe through appreciating men for being like truly great men which would include self-control honor

03:41:10.240 humility drive towards what is good service of others women similar things but also nurture love

03:41:16.000 of children love of uh family eagerness to serve other people and love other people instead of just

03:41:21.520 being concerned with ourself and our own ideas and and goals and if we focus on those things as men and

03:41:26.720 women we'll be much more harmonious together i think and have a much happier society i think that

03:41:32.480 love is unconditional and we're all attracting completely different people we're all very very different

03:41:37.760 people so like my person that i end up with is going to be completely different with who you

03:41:43.760 guys end up with and that's okay because we're all completely different we're allowed to be different

03:41:49.600 that's why we're going to end up with who we end up with in the first place and yes love is

03:41:53.920 unconditional you think love is unconditional yeah you think there are no conditions in which you would

03:41:58.880 fall out of love with somebody i think love is unconditional i think if you love someone you love them

03:42:04.080 like my parents love there's no conditions to love i think you can you can know that you're not meant

03:42:10.320 to be with someone that's not based on conditions that's because you know that you just aren't meant

03:42:16.480 to be with that person in your in your there's a difference between intuition or being on the same

03:42:21.680 wavelength and conditions like if i'm genuinely in love with someone and i marry whoever i decide to marry

03:42:28.720 yeah it's unconditional it's not unconditional but that's why i'm still single you're like why are you

03:42:33.600 single at 33 because i'm waiting to meet my person no because you said you've only been in a

03:42:38.800 relationship for a month i'm also i'm also 23 years old so i don't think that has any relevance to what

03:42:45.360 we were talking about at all in terms of traditionalism but i do want to talk about what you said between

03:42:50.480 like harmony between the sexes i think women have kind of found themselves in a place where they almost

03:42:55.120 have to be like men and manly like and protect themselves and defend themselves and provide for

03:43:00.640 themselves and so yeah i think it's hard then for women to be in these relationships where they have

03:43:05.200 to like tone that down when they're not in an environment in the first place where they can even

03:43:09.280 be feminine word okay unconditional love i mean in your dating profile you say that you think the

03:43:15.680 guy should pay for a date that's a condition um that's like me not wanting to go on a date with a

03:43:22.640 dwarf like i don't want to go on a date it's not a condition that's a condition okay love is

03:43:27.840 unconditional like my parents love me no matter who i am no matter what i do like i mean if i have

03:43:33.440 kids error no your parents love is different than the love you would have for your husband and that

03:43:37.440 he would have for you yeah familiar i mean when i have kids love is unconditional different category

03:43:42.880 are you going to still love your husband if he starts beating the out of you it seems that that's

03:43:46.640 that's probably the way to love him would be to separate yourself from him to protect i'm not

03:43:50.880 going to marry someone to get myself in that situation but that sounds like a condition there's

03:43:55.920 no such thing no it doesn't it's not a condition yes not being an abuser sounds like a condition

03:44:01.840 that you need fulfilled in order to be in a relationship do you think every woman that ends

03:44:06.240 up in an abusive relationship goes into the relationship knowing he's abusive i know for a fact no

03:44:12.320 that's not what i'm talking about so we're just trying to explain words to you thank you thank you

03:44:18.800 no problem but like okay please mail me um a dictionary tomorrow please i obviously i think i have

03:44:24.560 one she got the ratios down the airport i need one so badly no one knows my name but what's your

03:44:33.040 ratio of picture books to chapter books zero oh

03:44:38.880 but okay you can you at least admit that there are some conditions under which

03:44:46.400 like in order for you to fall in love with somebody that probably certain conditions need to be met

03:44:51.600 like standards and conditions are two different things but unconditional love is unconditional

03:44:59.680 so there are no conditions standards so if you start to date someone if your husband

03:45:04.640 started cheating on you to even get to the point of marriage is not can we google unconditional hold

03:45:11.120 on let me we're gonna send you to conditional first i promise you i'm not trying to be

03:45:15.600 i really don't give a fuck we're just not gonna agree on it i'm just telling you you're making a

03:45:19.280 categorical error there's a different kind of love that a man has for his wife than a

03:45:23.600 okay yo stop stop okay just let them speak what is that oh my god thank you bender the offender

03:45:30.480 the offender donated chat is on fire thank you man christy you seem very narcissistic you think way

03:45:36.880 too highly of yourself to the point of bordering on plain ignorance and you seem to not understand how

03:45:42.560 logic works thank you for the 500 you spelled my name completely wrong it's going to him for the record

03:45:48.080 i know that i get it i'm literally helping him like this whole thing is making him so much money

03:45:55.360 because of me you're welcome partially i made you the most money tonight all night wait so but if you

03:46:02.320 got married right so you would the person you marry you would have it's k-i-s-c-y bro what's your deal

03:46:09.120 can you just chill like we've told you multiple times to not interrupt people sorry you're you're literally

03:46:16.320 doing it right now do you just not have any social grace like can you just not interrupt people you've

03:46:23.040 interrupted i look at you you're like you're kind of

03:46:29.760 you've interrupted people so many times you've interrupted isabella you've interrupted everybody

03:46:34.880 here at the table trying to not interrupt i know it must be difficult for you

03:46:43.120 can you can you stop okay that's why i'm shaking my head i know but it's like almost passive aggressive

03:46:50.400 in the way you're doing it okay sorry apology accepted there you go okay we're all a happy family

03:46:57.520 now all right um i think you were saying saying something i i was you were talking about your mom and

03:47:05.040 i was just curious like do you feel like your mom because she was in a different era

03:47:12.080 carried herself maybe differently than most modern women do today and i'm not i don't want to use that

03:47:16.560 term in a loaded fashion but like yeah like where's that give and take if we're saying men are built

03:47:21.120 the same like but are women built you know carrying themselves differently so then okay so it would be

03:47:26.240 is it unreasonable then to expect men to act in a way where women aren't acting in the way that would

03:47:31.920 attract a man like that i don't know i just think this generation of guys is just so completely

03:47:39.200 different but what about this generation of women i think that yeah i mean yeah my mom was a stay-at-home

03:47:47.120 mom that i mean she went to all the board meetings and my dad was a pilot and flew across the world but um

03:47:56.800 i guess it was different like i don't want to be a stay-at-home mom um i don't know i guess i have a

03:48:04.960 different view on relationships because of my parents but it's also just hard maybe because of my dating

03:48:12.560 past so you're saying you don't want what they have no i definitely do want they have want what they

03:48:20.240 have but but you don't want to live the way they live i think it was it was just different

03:48:28.480 get your last minute chats and we're going to wrap up in about my wife is a stay-at-home mom

03:48:32.720 homeschools our kids and works part-time keeping our books yeah um it's it is different technology

03:48:39.200 is different dating apps are different but all my wife's friends are stay-at-home moms yeah who have

03:48:44.160 side hustles and are amazing moms teachers educators i just think it's so different like i was saying

03:48:49.280 earlier the social media aspect of things like my dad was a pilot they i uncovered their box of like

03:48:55.280 love letters to each other like it was just so different then like but i think i think it is

03:49:01.280 possible today i think it's hard i do think it's hard i think there's a lot of people that are

03:49:06.320 you know because of social media because of the sexual revolution yeah you know i know we've talked

03:49:10.320 a lot about porn but i would say because of porn all these things it's a lot harder to have

03:49:14.880 what you're describing but it is possible so you guys give me hope but but we're not like just

03:49:21.360 lucky i think yeah i mean we were very blessed i think they're like we were i think i don't know

03:49:24.800 about your family background but i can say like my parents are together like that is a privilege i have

03:49:28.800 yeah um but i will also say like it is possible for everyone but we just have to be that change we

03:49:34.800 want to see we have to choose it like if we want to be that with a man who's going to be that provider

03:49:39.360 that protector who's going to be a man of honor then our role would be to be that woman of honor

03:49:44.080 who wants to cherish motherhood you know and not prioritize careerism over it and who's preparing

03:49:50.560 for a life like that because it will maximize that opportunity for us i also would add that

03:49:55.680 like even though i'm 23 a lot of my friends are already in their 30s and the biggest thing that

03:49:59.520 they say is that they feel that like at this point in their lives that feminism really did have a big

03:50:04.000 impact on them not in the way that it is now but more so that women like we're told like you can do

03:50:09.280 whatever you want you have your whole 20s you have time to be able to settle down and have a family

03:50:13.760 and now like i have a friend who's 34 who like just ended a two-year relationship and she's like

03:50:18.400 i spent my entire 20s thinking that i had time and now here i am and i don't have time but i also want

03:50:24.880 to like revert back to because i was seeing comments earlier and like she has two eggs left like don't

03:50:31.280 just assume that i mean the truth is that women are on a biological clock but genetics and the way

03:50:36.240 that you take care of yourself is really crucial like they shouldn't just automatically assume because

03:50:40.640 i'm 35 and i i don't have a husband and the white picket fence like there's nothing wrong my best

03:50:46.880 friend's 34 and she just went to a fertility clinic and she's completely fine so my mom had me when

03:50:52.240 she was 40 and they said her ovaries look like that no one's saying no one's saying that you me i mean

03:50:57.440 i'm 34 or actually i'm on 35 i turned 35 last month no one is saying that any of us because we're

03:51:01.840 older like we're doomed i just think we have this like as older women i don't even want to consider

03:51:07.680 myself that but yeah you just have this and i think seeing the comments i'm like well don't look

03:51:12.000 at the comments i know i know i think the key is i know i think the key is you know the point or

03:51:16.880 the key here is where this is a dating podcast it's like okay what's the way to maximize dating

03:51:21.680 towards your goals exactly yeah are you in miami too i'm in nashville nashville okay so you're in a

03:51:26.640 major city yeah so just just something to consider we're communicating selection bias on both parts

03:51:33.440 you're in miami you're in nashville you guys are in the hollywood scene that's very different than

03:51:37.600 the way the rest of the country lives yeah right so if you come to vista california and go to church

03:51:42.000 with me and meet all my friends and my wife's friends you meet a dozen stay stay-at-home moms right

03:51:47.840 my world is completely different your world is different your world is different and so

03:51:51.440 my advice would be maybe be open to meeting some different people in different circles as friends

03:51:57.760 not like today but yeah and that'll show you that like oh no there's actually a lot of

03:52:01.040 people that still do hold to those values that you i feel like we're only talking about women

03:52:04.800 who want kids like what about the women who don't want kids well i think we're talking about women

03:52:10.080 who want to be with men that want to be that provider protector and typically those women

03:52:14.560 are seeking a family and wanting to have kids and i think most women want to have kids yeah

03:52:22.080 85 of women will have kids i remember having a conversation with my dad when i was like 18 where i

03:52:27.200 when i was graduating high school or i asked him what did you want to do when you were finishing

03:52:31.680 high school or actually finishing college and i remember him just telling me well i wanted to marry

03:52:36.640 your mom and i wanted to build a family with her and i remember just being like a young punk ass kid

03:52:41.920 that had all these like dreams of entrepreneurship and creativity and stuff and just being kind of

03:52:46.320 stumped and just even then thinking like this is the generation gap that my parents to them

03:52:52.240 to just have a nice american dream life was the goal and i think that to a lot of like young dudes

03:52:58.240 especially now and probably women too it's like you want to like build something and make something

03:53:03.920 out of yourself before you want to settle down because you pretty much accurately know that once

03:53:08.560 you become steve jobs that you're going to have you know your pick of all the different women out

03:53:13.040 there and that mentality is i guess in some ways it makes sense and that like if you remain single

03:53:19.040 maybe you're going to be able to work harder on your hopes and dreams but i also think that it's

03:53:22.880 kind of a pipe dream and for the average person especially given how high the cost of living is

03:53:27.920 especially in major cities it's like realistically probably the best thing that you could do is like

03:53:33.600 fall in love get into a relationship with a girl get married split your expenses have a family etc

03:53:39.680 once you feel comfortable financially but like you know we we just live in a society where we're

03:53:45.440 constantly surrounded by people who are putting on examples of doing the other thing which is

03:53:50.160 basically like mindlessly chasing ass and you know highs and money or whatever for your whole life

03:53:55.920 and that is kind of like a weird thing that the manosphere has to sort of reckon with which is that

03:54:00.880 you know i i think you know somebody like andrew tate being like at the forefront of the manosphere now

03:54:07.520 it's like you can't really necessarily just be pushing an agenda of like yo

03:54:11.200 fuck as many girls as possible because andrew tate is out here saying like no that is not going

03:54:15.280 to make you happy in the long run and anyone who's really being honest with you is going to let you

03:54:18.800 know that's not going to make you happy in the long run to me though it's a nuanced question of like

03:54:23.440 how long do you need to be single like what is the ideal number of people that you should probably

03:54:28.480 be thinking you might want to have sex with before you get into a long-term relationship

03:54:32.160 i would just you that was very profound and i think what we're saying is statistically

03:54:36.320 speaking the majority of men and women will have kids what is the optimal way to build a family

03:54:42.160 if we're talking about dating we're talking about relations what's the optimal way to cause the most

03:54:46.080 amount of flourishing to the most amount of people and what has worked through and through through all

03:54:50.560 these civilizations i think that's the crux of what we're getting on so what you're saying is totally

03:54:54.080 and it's not red pill blue pill to me there's a lot of goofy things from both sides a lot of nonsense

03:54:58.320 being pushed but if we're talking about the optimal flourishing environments because we're all

03:55:01.920 going to eventually have kids majority of us anyway how does that look um if you're a guy i

03:55:07.600 mean i think it's probably you know you spend however many years being single and sort of

03:55:12.480 figuring out what you like and what you don't like and then at some point once you get into the

03:55:16.160 relationship you just take it serious i think once as a guy in my life when i decided that i wanted to

03:55:22.320 actually treat a girl good it wasn't really that hard for me to then end up in a relationship with

03:55:26.720 her you know whereas when i was trying to do the thing of like trying to be this playboy or trying to

03:55:31.280 like be getting drunk and fucked up and just kind of treating women like pieces of then that was like

03:55:36.240 it's very hard for you to land in a relationship when you're not showing the girl respect but if

03:55:39.680 you as soon as you flip the switch and start like actually treating her like you give a about

03:55:44.080 what happens to her or how you're treating her usually it's right it's not that complicated well

03:55:49.520 yeah it's like powerful too is we can learn from other people's experiences because i do think

03:55:54.480 like you sharing your experience adam like other people sharing your experience like hey this is how i

03:55:58.320 lived and it didn't make me happy and so then i wanted to you know get married or whatever it is

03:56:03.440 i do think that people don't have to sow their wild oats like i think that is a mythology in our culture

03:56:08.480 today of like oh when you're young you're promiscuous and then you settle down i know so many couples who

03:56:12.960 were young and they were each other's first and they settled down and they have this beautiful life

03:56:17.360 that they built together now that's not everybody's story obviously but i think that we need to kind of make

03:56:22.080 that normal again because right now if you're a virgin and you know you get married you know i got

03:56:27.600 married at 30 and i was a virgin and people were like no one was like oh you're so crazy you're so

03:56:32.480 weird like how could that be and it's like why don't we normalize that instead of saying it's weird i

03:56:36.960 mean literally people get made fun of for being virgins especially men actually which is so sad it's true

03:56:42.400 and it should be the opposite it should be like no let's celebrate that not to shame people who aren't

03:56:46.560 but let's celebrate living that people say it's traditional but living that that way because it

03:56:52.000 leads to and has led to so many beautiful marriages like your parents and you know my parents and other

03:56:56.000 people who have those role models so really quick on chivalry uh so do you do you think chivalry is dead

03:57:06.000 yeah but maybe i just haven't been around the right guys yeah well to quote the great dave chappelle he

03:57:11.920 says chivalry is dead and women killed it oh harsh i think one way some way yeah i don't know if

03:57:20.800 well i think like okay when it comes to like this expectation that dating apps killed it more than

03:57:25.920 a certain gender yeah well i think there's a whole bunch of factors there's

03:57:32.480 they're just

03:57:35.440 what's going on with you i'm just can you just i know i know but like

03:57:39.840 like can you not interrupt please okay certainly i think social media dating apps have played a big

03:57:47.840 factor but i think that when it comes to like who should pay on the first date guys doing these sort

03:57:53.280 of traditional things like a lot of women seem to just blithely assume that traditional gender roles

03:58:00.960 assigned to men are something that they're entitled to the benefits of by magical default instead of it

03:58:07.680 being something that ought to uh that that women have to help culture and nurture for it to be there

03:58:14.720 for men and so i think like in order for you to like you should be the type of woman that's deserving

03:58:23.200 of the traditional if you want traditional treatment you ought to be a traditional woman and that just

03:58:28.160 comes back to our point our argument that we were having earlier is is if you're not a traditional women

03:58:34.080 you oh excuse me if you're not a traditional woman you cannot expect traditional treatment from men

03:58:41.360 i have to argue with that like i think i'm a traditional woman like

03:58:46.960 are you i mean you said you've had like what 30 plus previous sexual partners

03:58:52.960 i don't think that has anything you said you're what like 33 or something 34

03:58:57.040 don't listen to them yeah you're doing great i don't think there's anything wrong with that like

03:59:02.800 i go to church every weekend i'm like very spiritual i know what i want like sometimes you just you

03:59:09.920 haven't met the right person yet and there's nothing wrong with you it's just yeah there's there's men out

03:59:15.680 there that don't really care about body count but there's a lot of men out there that do yeah if i was

03:59:21.600 your boyfriend i would let you slide thanks all right well there you have it there we go if adam 22

03:59:27.120 was your boyfriend do you let it slide there you go i'll let you fuck some other guys too whoa

03:59:32.560 i wouldn't do that he's not shovel risk you don't want to oh i'm plenty

03:59:37.440 i pay for half of everything oh yeah but you know you're rich i don't feel like all men want the

03:59:45.280 traditional gender roles i feel like if i stopped paying for half of everything adam would not be happy

03:59:50.800 who paid for the first like was their first date did you guys do dinner for the first day we went

03:59:55.760 to a diner and then we went and got 7-eleven cheap wine did y'all split the bill or no i think he paid

04:00:01.920 oh okay all right he's a gentleman it was a diner adam 22 is a gentleman see i i wouldn't pay for the

04:00:08.400 first date really yeah i don't pay for the first day wow you expect the woman to no i don't expect her

04:00:14.320 to pay for me but i think we should split the bill wow that's right so you want a traditional woman

04:00:18.880 but then you want to do some things on yeah it's in your favor well yeah here's the thing right

04:00:25.840 all men want like the traditional things right i think we have to we have to give what we want

04:00:31.040 to get right i mean what it comes down to with both men and women it's the only way guys if she

04:00:36.560 splits the bill with you if you want no still no bodies there can't be bodies but i feel like a

04:00:41.680 virgin who splits the bill in my life when i've been on a first date and i pay which is like really

04:00:46.720 anything like if i just start talking to a girl in a bar i'm gonna start you know paying for drinks

04:00:50.960 or whatever it's just a way of saying like look i am financially stable i'm not scared to spend seven

04:00:55.680 dollars on buying you a drink or twenty dollars on a cheeseburger or whatever it is you know it's like

04:01:00.800 i i feel like i understand there's like a value to the the peacocking that you're doing by paying

04:01:06.720 it's just like sort of demonstrating that you're not broke but i do like in terms of the principle

04:01:11.680 i like where he's going with it and it's kind of like a nice test to find out how much of the woman

04:01:16.720 is just there for free tgi fridays you know yeah yeah i mean it's no one is there for free tgi

04:01:22.240 i've never been on a date with brian brian well there's there definitely are uh women who

04:01:28.320 partake in foodie calls yes they're i've never heard this before in my life wait you've never heard

04:01:34.320 that term yeah it's a foodie call wow this is a thing where where and maybe it's not maybe it's

04:01:41.600 not a dinner maybe it's an experience the guy's gonna take her to uh take her to a concert or take

04:01:46.800 her on some experience or right fly her out take her on a vacation buy her take her shopping on the

04:01:53.120 first day which is that that to me is way too much but uh yeah but uh as a guy you do kind of have

04:02:00.400 to be cautious of that and i look i do think if you don't pay the for the first date as a guy you

04:02:04.880 are going to lose some girls like some girls are going to have an issue with it i do think it's a

04:02:09.040 good screening mechanism to find women who are very that have high interest they're so interested in

04:02:16.240 you that perhaps even if they would prefer a guy to pay for the date then but they're they're still

04:02:21.120 going to pursue it with you i think women pay their dues in other ways though like they're getting

04:02:25.200 dressed they're doing their makeup they're doing their hair okay but you're not you guys take like

04:02:30.240 10 minutes you're not spending an hour all the money the girl's putting into all those things that

04:02:35.520 she had to get do you know how expensive oh but hold on i thought women wear makeup for themselves

04:02:40.400 and not for men no i i mean i wear makeup for men yeah oh the patriarchy wins again so the paying for

04:02:48.000 the first date is a sign of chivalry because it it signals the dynamic which is that i as a man

04:02:55.840 ultimately want to be a provider right and like i'm telling you i'm signaling to you as a woman

04:03:01.760 that you know if this continues we fall in love we choose to marry each other we get married whatever

04:03:06.400 that i want to try to provide so that you're able to have babies i mean that is a very like

04:03:10.480 fundamental natural principle that i think is beautiful yeah and i i think if we were more uh like in an

04:03:16.960 old order sort of way when it comes to dating when it like being more traditional i think in the past

04:03:22.880 maybe you'd go on you'd date like one or two people and then the first second or third person that you

04:03:30.720 ever pursued romantically ended up being your husband or wife now in today's day and age people

04:03:36.560 are going on dozens of dates hundreds of days and it's easy to do so you know like you can easily go on

04:03:43.680 a couple dozen dates over the course of a year and like whereas my parents growing up i mean it would

04:03:49.120 have been pretty tough to even meet that many people you know let me just read this one add

04:03:54.720 is it not going to read okay screw this chick saying required surgery that enables you to physically

04:03:59.200 continue normally in life like your hip joint wearing out or in my case blew out my quad

04:04:05.600 tendon that required surgery for me to walk plastic surgery is the same

04:04:09.680 fuck off my name is christy i don't know why no one's saying my name

04:04:17.360 they just don't care like solipsism this is such a perfect example of solipsism

04:04:22.480 um but i i'm not i'm not trying to talk too much because apparently i'm talking way too much so

04:04:27.440 it was just no it's just when you interrupt it wasn't interrupting i'm just participating in the

04:04:31.760 conversation but you know if somebody is talking and then you start talking that is interruption but it's

04:04:37.760 also i think i just mansplained that by the way what's that i'm participating

04:04:44.160 that's great i i have no problem with you participating but if somebody else is talking

04:04:48.400 just let them finish their thought then you can add to it so adam thank you for the uh

04:04:52.720 tts much thank you adam thank you adam yep you by the way you thank you that's a thank you from

04:04:58.560 christy by the way make sure you get her name right k-r-i-s-t-y why why is that guy calling you

04:05:03.840 christy meth in the chat um i don't know maybe he's on meth oh okay wait okay we're talking about

04:05:13.040 paying for the first date wait so don't you think though if you're selective with the women that you're

04:05:17.200 choosing you don't have to worry about women using you for a dinner date well the thing is though is

04:05:23.520 that even unassuming women like women you wouldn't think are let's say hustlers oh voice crack nice

04:05:32.320 uh like there's some very unassuming women who are quiet and shy and introverted and

04:05:40.320 like they're fucking hustlers so you can't always tell interesting you can always tell like they're

04:05:47.200 either they could be really promiscuous or they're like dating a whole bunch of other people so have you

04:05:52.160 ever been in a situation where you went to go split the bill at the end and she was like i'm not

04:05:56.560 paying half no because i do some gangster what do you do brian all right here's what that here's

04:06:03.520 what you do first off first off you should try to do something for free what yeah exactly hold on

04:06:10.880 i got you i got you lena exactly what you could do something for free right or definitely you don't

04:06:18.160 do you never do a dinner date dinner is terrible because if it's you on the first date you want

04:06:22.960 a quick out like if it's awkward or it's not going well you don't want to be sitting there waiting for

04:06:28.480 your food like that way so you maybe you go for a drink or you go for a tea coffee right you go to

04:06:33.520 starbucks now what you do is there's a couple different options if you don't even do the free thing

04:06:39.120 right you just arrive early or you arrive on time and here's the thing like most of the time women

04:06:48.000 are late for days i'm just saying i'm just saying women are typically late for first days so you can

04:06:54.000 just arrive on time and just she's gonna be 10 minutes late right adam you've been on first dates

04:06:57.600 right they're usually pretty on average probably more so more often than not um so you just get your

04:07:04.880 drink you go to the bar you get your drink then you go and sit down and when she arrives you don't

04:07:10.000 walk up to the counter to help her get a drink you're like oh i'm saving the booth uh do you want

04:07:15.120 to go and get yourself you're not willing to buy a girl three dollar and fifty cents coffee come on

04:07:19.280 it's not about the money it's not about the money it's about the principle that she'll pay for her own

04:07:24.480 cup of coffee she will yeah she wants to know that you're down to pay for it too it's fine though it's

04:07:29.760 fine the other thing is you could if there's like a waiter that's going to come bring a check again

04:07:34.880 you get there on time or early she's going to be late and then you tell the waiter when you bring

04:07:41.440 the checks two two checks at starbucks well not at starbucks brian brian i don't think you're going

04:07:48.400 to meet your future wife yeah you're deterring this is great this is great i have saved so much money

04:07:55.520 over the years being very frugal that's the sexiest thing for most women is frugal frugality

04:08:02.080 by the way they love a frugal man but you may have saved money but i feel like you probably would have

04:08:06.880 experienced some more well but you're trying to keep a low body count right or are you you might

04:08:12.640 have met a really cool girl who was just like turned off by the not wanting to pay for the coffee i

04:08:16.320 went on a date with a guy who was gonna pay the bill but then he was asking how much a soda cost which

04:08:20.240 is like clearly the cheapest item on the menu and that just turned me off and i never saw the guy again

04:08:24.880 it's not about the money i know it's more about the principle you know it's not is this what we've

04:08:29.120 gotten to in dating in 2020 oh yeah you got a diabolical plan to look it's just not pay for

04:08:34.960 anything no you pay for your own food listen see chivalry's dead and you're the reason why you're not

04:08:41.920 going to meet a traditional wife splitting coffee no i can still meet a girl i can still meet a girl with

04:08:46.720 a low body count and she's cool with me not paying for the paying for the first day not saving that

04:08:51.600 opportunity for someone to charge her for her own coffee you never know because here's the thing

04:08:55.680 you want ultimately i'm gonna guess you correct me if i'm wrong i'm gonna guess or let me just ask

04:09:00.400 you do you want a woman that wants to be a wife and a mother

04:09:07.120 that that's a high priority i thought this was gonna be an easy yes yeah he doesn't want to get

04:09:11.200 married that's well then well i guess it makes sense

04:09:13.440 then the whole you pay for the coffee i could have i could have like a long-term partner but uh

04:09:22.160 i'm not in i i don't want to get married just because i'm i'm strongly leaning towards yes but

04:09:28.960 i have to uh of course find the right person to uh have kids with so but you don't want to marry

04:09:33.120 their mother what's that you don't want to marry the mother of your children no because of the state of

04:09:38.560 uh the marriage laws and divorce laws in this country it's uh i don't think it's a good move

04:09:45.360 financially for a man yeah what if you had a prenup well i think looking at kevin costner he had a

04:09:51.840 prenuptial agreement with his wife i don't know the full details of it but a lot of men my understanding

04:09:56.720 is pre uh prenups are not bulletproof all i mean conceivably the woman could say you know let's say

04:10:05.040 you're having a contentious divorce the woman could easily say that she agreed to the prenup

04:10:10.960 under duress and therefore it's invalid why would you trust someone enough to be the mother of your

04:10:18.160 children but you wouldn't trust them enough to marry them yeah but i mean how many people get married

04:10:23.920 and have kids with people only for it to not work out but do you think that was wise for them well i i

04:10:29.760 just weren't a great judge of character it turns out yeah but i mean or it could it could be the case

04:10:34.400 that maybe people people change can i can i propose something uh sure it seems like every other facet of

04:10:42.240 life learning to drive getting a degree getting certified to cut hair people have to go through

04:10:48.720 some sort of process to get some sort of training and get some sort of certification but the two most

04:10:53.040 important decisions that we will ever make who we have children with and who we will marry we think

04:10:58.800 we're just going to make it on a whim no planning no education no systems no target and it's just

04:11:05.680 going to work out of course people you're conservative though right absolutely so i don't

04:11:09.760 know that seems like a bit too much government intervention i said nothing about government

04:11:12.960 oh okay i don't think the government should be well no but you you were mentioning like a driver's license

04:11:16.880 like having a light well i think he's just saying that there's like a longer process that goes into

04:11:21.520 these things oh okay i'm not talking about the government i think the church should be doing this

04:11:25.440 stuff i think people should be in communities where there's older couples mentoring them that

04:11:30.000 are decades ahead helping them walk through this well i'm look i'm an egalitarian as when it comes to

04:11:34.800 paying for the first date i'm an egalitarian you're an enigma bud i believe i believe in equality i mean

04:11:43.040 that's that's i don't think that's equality in terms of equal dignity i mean it depends what you

04:11:48.000 mean by equality but you don't expect the woman to be a man right or maybe hopefully not okay

04:11:53.360 hopefully shut up gorlok nope um yeah no i don't expect her no like obviously there's just there

04:12:00.560 are going to be certain roles that i i'm going to fall into uh i mean i mean i i get why a lot of

04:12:08.800 people are jaded today because divorce rates are so high and there's so much broken so many broken

04:12:12.720 families but like rissland was saying there are systems there are things you can do to really prepare

04:12:17.680 and and date like very intentionally to have maximize the best outcomes possible and people

04:12:23.840 still have free will so it's not like your spouse is never going to make a mistake because i make

04:12:27.280 mistakes in my marriage like you're going to make mistakes but by really preparing for marriage and

04:12:32.960 really getting to know the person that you're going to marry before marrying them get to know their

04:12:36.160 community their family all these things i think it it makes sense to make take the risk for the sake of

04:12:41.680 the kids too the risk of saying yes i'm going to commit to you for life no matter what sure well

04:12:46.320 i mean just to bring it back to the paying for the first date thing uh i

04:12:55.040 as a guy like if i'm first going on a date with a girl i don't i don't know her yet so i don't know

04:13:00.880 if she's worth it in the same way that women are not obliged to sleep with a guy on the first date

04:13:08.400 i feel like i'm not obliged to pay on the first date get paying for someone's coffee is like

04:13:13.440 sleeping with them no it's obviously different but i i i don't personally see the understand the

04:13:19.360 pushback against equally investing into the start of a relationship and just me personally as a

04:13:23.920 preference i do i actually like it when women simp for me like i like it when a woman is that into

04:13:30.480 me in fact it would be not only should it be uh split i think it's better if she pays for me

04:13:36.880 that's some g that's some gangster shit i think part of like no i like it i think a girl here i

04:13:43.840 don't know about you but all of us at least four can agree that we disagree with you i think that's

04:13:49.760 i think part of the things that society has normalized is kind of like marriage isn't what

04:13:53.760 it used to be i think people don't take it seriously i think 53 years of no-fault divorce in

04:13:58.720 the united states has been completely to our detriment where people kind of just like enter marriage and

04:14:03.760 they feel like they can get out anytime that they want so i think that having no value of

04:14:08.320 marriage leads people to think that like oh well i'm looking at marriage as like a contract yeah so

04:14:13.840 i mean i i guess if i could determine if a girl was actually like if she was traditional let's say

04:14:22.160 she had a low body count she wasn't promiscuous she was feminine etc under those circumstances i'd be

04:14:28.560 much more open to paying for the first date however like if i'm dating a woman who's 30

04:14:35.920 she's professional she's got a career like it to me the the whole reason men used to pay was because

04:14:43.520 women were not like out there making money but if i go on a date with an attorney and actually i think

04:14:49.200 i did went back when long time ago if i go on a date with a woman who's an attorney let's say she's

04:14:55.760 out earning me why ought i to pay for her under those circumstances do you want her to stay an

04:15:02.640 attorney working full-time when she's a mother of your kids and just do that continuously

04:15:10.560 it depends my financial situation if if i i think i'm in a financial spot where if i decided to have

04:15:16.640 kids i would be able to provide and have her just take care of the kids i would be able to do that

04:15:22.720 but if i wasn't then i might be more interested in her continuing to work meaning you'd be the

04:15:31.040 breadwinner and she would be the and you take care of the baby she'd be the breadwinner excuse

04:15:35.440 me and you take care of the babies no no i i mean if very few women would be satisfied with that

04:15:41.840 arrangement but uh but do you i wouldn't no not really although it would be kind of awesome to like

04:15:50.000 if she's just rich like some billionaire heiress yeah i'm gonna quit my but then she doesn't have

04:15:55.120 to work she could still be the mom okay and stay at home mom or i'll be the stare i'll be the stay

04:16:01.040 at home mom not that you can't be a mom when you work but i'm saying that it's hard can you give us

04:16:06.720 five minutes yeah yeah we'll wrap up here uh i know we're going a little late so uh no speaking of

04:16:12.640 kids get home yeah thank you for you guys's patience we'll wrap up here in just a sec but uh

04:16:19.120 yeah i don't know i don't know there's a way to tip the scales in your favor in a marriage man

04:16:24.480 that's all i want you to know yeah i'm just like the i've heard some absolute horror stories of men

04:16:32.000 just getting divorced they're financially ruined and it's just brutal and i've also um

04:16:38.880 i sat in i went to family court once not not i was uh it was like a small uh small claims case

04:16:48.160 um and we were waiting for us to get to the small claim stuff and prior to that there was a family

04:16:54.000 court proceeding and it was a divorce proceeding with uh involving custody of children and it was

04:16:58.800 the most depressing thing i ever saw these two people who i suppose previously loved each other

04:17:04.720 to be so cold towards each other and you know fighting over the kids and the and just the

04:17:12.480 financial component yeah i just i don't see what what can i get from marriage that i can't get from

04:17:20.960 a long-term girlfriend but i think that just like why who you choose is so important like my mom works

04:17:25.760 for a law office that deals with like a lot of divorces and the stories that she comes home with

04:17:30.240 sometimes are so like disheartening and yeah sometimes it makes me like a little nervous to

04:17:34.240 get married because it's like is this what it's like but i think who you choose is just super

04:17:37.920 important i look at megan markle and prince harry like they're the perfect example of like why who you

04:17:42.480 choose to marry is so important i i guess but i mean how many like what is the divorce rate how many people

04:17:49.600 going into marriage think yeah we'll probably be divorced and inevitably they end up divorced i think

04:17:55.680 no prenup is going to save you if the woman is motivated enough but brian you're still going to

04:18:00.400 have custody issues even if you don't get married so like you're not going to escape the brokenness

04:18:06.320 and i would just say like if you go into it support if you go into it expecting the worst outcome or

04:18:11.120 fearing the worst outcome and that sort of like organizing how you make your decisions then i do

04:18:16.080 think you're not going to set yourself up for success ultimately i mean i think that's just being smart

04:18:22.720 though is recognizing the potential uh risks i'm sure there's plenty of men that got married who

04:18:30.320 after the fact after their divorce are like maybe i should have thought that through a little more

04:18:36.560 well definitely think it through i don't sure i mean that's i don't know i just i don't think you

04:18:40.480 should ever sign a contract with somebody who's rewarded for breaking it i never really put that much

04:18:46.240 importance into marriage but then we had a kid and all of a sudden it just felt so much more

04:18:51.520 important like oh i actually am going to spend the rest of my life with this girl like i should

04:18:56.560 make it official you know like that just kind of once we had the kid it just seemed glaringly obvious

04:19:01.600 to me whereas i was kind of in the same spot where i just didn't see a reason to you know involve the

04:19:06.640 government in my relations and never could have imagined myself doing sure yeah look and if other

04:19:12.080 people want from a religious perspective i have no issue with marriage i did i more so and this is

04:19:16.880 something i'd love to see conservatives doing because i feel like conservatives are definitely

04:19:21.440 more on the side of men than liberals are uh but i i do think there ought to be a look at the marriage

04:19:28.880 laws and the divorce laws uh to perhaps better protect men uh you know when it comes to you know there's

04:19:37.600 alimony community property just there's there's a lot of potential negatives when it comes to uh marriage

04:19:45.120 i'll just say this last thing on marriage and then we'll if anyone has a final thought i'll give it to

04:19:48.400 you and then we'll wrap up i would say if you're as a man you're dead set on getting married the

04:19:53.920 the least that you can do is make sure of these three things she does not have a child from another

04:20:00.240 man she does not have any cluster b personality disorder or other mental health issues and she's

04:20:06.880 either a virgin or has a low body count i think those are probably the best circumstances for marriage

04:20:11.680 i'd agree well but i'll just caution if you're going into it without striving for goodness and

04:20:19.040 health yourself it can it'll still be a train it can still be a train rick even if she's all those

04:20:23.680 things so it just it always takes two to tango in a marriage like you have to both give every give

04:20:28.640 everything you can to be the best and to be the healthiest yeah i i guess like kind of my one of my

04:20:34.160 issues with marriage is that and i know a lot of people again from a religious perspective

04:20:38.960 no issue but your religion does not exclusively preside over your marriages the state presides

04:20:49.600 over your marriages not biblical values i mean they do but like ultimately

04:20:57.440 if a woman is unhappy in a marriage she goes to the state she doesn't go to god so i guess that's my

04:21:04.000 she probably goes to god first and then if that doesn't work then she gets divorced i think she's

04:21:10.160 praying not to get divorced can i ask the girls here last thing have any of you broke up with a

04:21:14.480 guy because you were bored with him be honest no i think that's a valid reason i've never broken up

04:21:21.120 with someone from boredom no for sure i've stopped talking to girls because i just got bored it's like

04:21:26.160 the most reasonable there you go there you go could get what if you get bored in marriage um anybody

04:21:30.960 final thoughts before we wrap up here i just want to say that like i feel you when you're like

04:21:35.600 citing your stipulations for marrying a girl and like low body count or whatever but what i'll say is

04:21:39.920 that it's the intangibles when it comes to a girl because i can say that i have been at the lowest points

04:21:46.960 in my life and she was somebody who you know was just there for me 100 of the time cared about

04:21:55.440 resuscitating oh yeah this is what is that it's gonna be weird if they go nick i think it turned

04:22:01.600 the lights off in the in the bathroom or something has that been that just started right i think it's

04:22:07.680 the fan and oh okay all right sorry about my point was just that like the value that you can get in a

04:22:15.520 relationship or whatever is like there was just times in my life where i was going through the hardest

04:22:19.520 shit possible and like she cared for me like as if it was herself going through it you know and

04:22:24.960 like that is like something that if i had been like when i met her like oh you got a couple dozen

04:22:29.760 bodies or whatever so i'm not going to take you seriously it would have been like a catastrophic

04:22:34.160 mistake in retrospect so i would encourage dudes out there just to not write a girl off just because

04:22:39.440 she's been around the block i was the one who drove the whole prenup process so it's like not every

04:22:43.280 girl is just there to like take your money and leave when you're down and like i don't know i just feel

04:22:47.920 like there's like all these you got a lot of money too but then also but it's like i have the same

04:22:51.840 prenup lawyer as britney spears so i just want to tell you about that and kim kardashian yeah you did

04:22:55.520 good but i don't know i just like you know you're saying like oh did you ever leave a guy because

04:22:59.680 you were just bored like is that what you really think girls break up that's the number one reason

04:23:03.760 that no it's not it's nothing it but but it does happen but i feel like guys guys break up with

04:23:08.400 girls because they're bored too sure yeah i think it's a pretty good reason you know i've just never done it

04:23:13.360 if you're just not interested anymore then i mean it sounds like it's probably i mean you could work

04:23:17.760 on it but you might i feel like maybe that's what guys got when the girl's telling her why she's

04:23:22.000 breaking up with him he's like oh she was just bored of me but like maybe she was making some

04:23:25.120 really valid points that he was not hearing yeah i would just add the there's a book called the good

04:23:29.680 news about marriage and it dispels this entire myth that there's a 50 divorce rate when you actually

04:23:35.360 look at the numbers i was never actually a rate that was a projection when no fault divorce passed but

04:23:40.160 the real divorce rate's around 38 percent when you still high when you factor in people who make above

04:23:45.680 average income and and get this practice their faith and attend church regularly the divorce rate

04:23:51.680 falls off the cliff completely and i think there's something to that do you know what it falls down

04:23:56.160 to i believe 15 people practicing born again christians who or catholics who attend church take

04:24:00.880 their faith seriously it's between it's between 10 and 15 percent it's better my last word is marriage

04:24:07.760 is awesome but as isabella a lot of people said at this table it's about trying to be the best you can be

04:24:14.000 serving god serving other people and then dating really intentionally you know not dating for lust

04:24:19.040 not dating for just hanging out but dating it for is this someone i could marry ultimately and striving

04:24:24.080 to be the kind of person you want to marry i also wanted to say just like one last thing i always had

04:24:28.800 like a just like a slight bone to pick with like open relationships because i just thought they were

04:24:34.240 kind of fake but like talking to you guys today like i can tell your guys your guys's relationship is

04:24:39.360 really real you know what i mean and like about like the what lila said they're like 92 percent of

04:24:45.440 um non-monogamous monogamous relationships are failures and like the number one factor to that was

04:24:52.800 if you didn't have a healthy relationship to start with but you guys really seem like you do have a

04:24:56.800 really healthy happy we also don't really have like the typical polyamorous relationship where we're

04:25:01.920 like you know oh it's friday night and she's off banging some dude and i'm banging some girl you know

04:25:05.840 it's like that that's what i picture when i think of the average like open relationship and i do

04:25:10.240 definitely imagine that those uh have a hard time lasting you know for us it's more of a on-camera

04:25:16.000 thing but yeah anybody else anybody else since everyone cares about rates so much i don't know

04:25:23.120 why they don't understand the ratio thing but that's why i'm definitely we gotta end this episode on

04:25:27.920 the ratio that's why i'm so confused because it's a decimal thing and you turn decimals into

04:25:33.680 percentages and so that's where ratio starts i'm just saying don't understand why it's a lot of

04:25:40.480 things seem very hypocritical that's where i'm gonna end and the youtube shorts editor who can put

04:25:45.440 together the best ratio talk compilation from this we will all gladly comment and and engage because

04:25:53.280 we all are looking forward to hit me up on absolutely hell yeah all right well uh we have

04:25:58.800 one last chat here we have scott females on the panel need to stop talking about divorce like as if

04:26:04.880 it was a 50 50 initiated act it is not females overwhelmingly initiate divorce 80 they keep the

04:26:11.360 kids 50 of what the man has worked for if marriage is so important sign the prenup at

04:26:18.800 very least get a prenup that's a strong recommendation okay cool especially if there's

04:26:23.200 a big imbalance in terms of income because like we know couples who got married when they like when

04:26:29.760 they were both on the same level like broke and then one person ended up making you know millions

04:26:34.160 of dollars per year while the other person basically stayed broke and man that person really wishes they

04:26:39.520 had a prenup so if there's any kind of like potential uh differential going into the future for income

04:26:46.400 that's when the prenup really becomes important now i think but there's certainly uh probably some

04:26:50.800 women that are going to have an issue with uh signing a prenup and and only fans is the rare

04:26:56.240 situation where like the woman might end up making a hundred times more than she was making

04:27:01.200 the beginning of the relationship yeah just reminder prenups are not bulletproof they can you know they can

04:27:07.760 you can get maneuver if you're motivated enough you can maneuver around it all right guys uh go to

04:27:12.400 twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub nick if you could pull that up really

04:27:16.560 quick yo chico thank you for the prime definitely a hetero thank you for the resub with the prime

04:27:21.440 uh guys twitch.tv slash whatever drops a follow drop us a prime sub last call hit the like button

04:27:26.080 please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world

04:27:30.400 but you were here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats

04:27:34.720 donates and supports the show your patronage is uh your very generous patronage has been uh very much

04:27:40.240 appreciated tonight thank you guys uh big thank you to the uh wonderful panel for joining us

04:27:45.120 tonight it was i think it was a super panel uh so uh appreciate it thanks to all our chat mods big

04:27:53.280 thank you to brit who's helping with time stamps any women who want to be on the show dm at whatever

04:27:58.800 any female dwarves my dms are open bd underscore atlas um if you know let me know if you know anybody uh

04:28:06.000 okay guys we will be live again sunday at i think i don't know what time was i think we're doing 7 pm

04:28:14.080 again we are going to change it eventually but we'll be live again sunday at 7 pm pacific thank

04:28:19.360 you for tuning in guys oh seven's in the chat we'll see you next time good night guys what's the oh seven

04:28:26.320 oh seven is like

Adam22, Lena The Plug vs. Lila Rose, Isabella DeLuca, Ruslan ｜ Dating Talk #93

Summary

Transcript