Andrew Wilson & Brian Atlas vs. 140 IQ Woke Leftist Feminist HATER! | Whatever Debates 24
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Join us live from Santa Barbara, California for a debate hosted by Andrew Wilson (The Crucible) and Jen Stone (The Great Awakening) as they debate whether or not to be a woke feminist, leftist hater, or a nazi.
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we're just going to jump right into it uh i'm joined today by andrew wilson he's the host of
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the crucible he's a blood sports debater and political commentator also joining us today
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is jen stone she is a 140 iq woke feminist leftist hater i'm not any of that oh sorry
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well okay well do you want to introduce yourself then i'm not okay i miss isn't that what my um
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introduction speech is well you can intro yourself and then if you want to just go right in stone
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go right into your opening i'm not a feminist or what did you all say it was uh woke feminist
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leftist hater i'm not leftist either i don't hate anybody and my iq technically is at 140 so is it
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higher 143 i'm i apologize by the way please make the correction let the record show her iq is in fact
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143 and not 140 as i erroneously i don't like labels that labels you're giving me gotcha uh do
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you want to just just go ahead into your opening statement sure this is why i'm here is um the
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population likes to give such labels to everybody like 50 percent of the population is either woke or
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a nazi um and i think that's contributing to the downfall of our nation um andrew said when i was
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on the show that he hates people like me the most who don't take sides um from the way i see it i have
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a broader picture of what's actually happening in the world um it's not like i agree with everybody
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on each side but everybody has something to say that can contribute um to society um and
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people tend to just like turn off something the first time they hear something they don't agree with
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and say bad things about people um but when they dig deeper um everybody part of your opening or is
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this part of yeah this is this is the opening okay okay everybody has good points on shit um from what
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i see from my bigger perspective is while we're fighting over bathrooms and the super bowl and
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all of that nonsense um yeah crazy shit's happening and it's been happening for a long time it's on both
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sides um um starting you know around the 1970s with um with uh citizens united and quick pro quo and um
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just changing of our the um corporate taxes not really paying much taxes anymore um
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um it kind of seems like we're all fighting for the same thing in andrew's perspective he wants to
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bring back the 1950s because there's less debauchery and family values and the left wants um a tax
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structure um that's more towards the 1950s as well which is basically i like the bernie sanders level of
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you know yeah uh taxes which i don't advocate for completely that to happen um but they're basically
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fighting for the same thing and blame the other people for taking it away if that makes sense um
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and both sides have good points um they just think each other's to blame and if you look at the bigger
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picture um yeah i don't i don't know um people need to look instead of going to the back to the past we
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should strive to solve issues for the future um because with ai coming and stuff like nothing is going to be
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traditional we're in a new it's a new revolution a new age so why are we trying to bring back
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something that will never happen again um and basically the last thing is i don't care who you
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vote for um i'm i'm calling it the great awakening uh one thing we can most of us agree on is to stop
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supporting people who um who have lots of donors from super PACs um support people who want to change
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these flaws in our system that are have created what some would say the um the deep state um the epstein
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class uh vote out all the old boomers who are just corporate puppets that goes on both sides
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and that's really the only way um that we could start putting the pieces back together basically
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that's it uh just one really quick thing i know andrea has a bunch of notes that he wanted to jump
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into at the very beginning of your opening you conflated uh for example people on the right
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um calling the other side woke and that you you compared that to people on the left calling people
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on the right nazis do you think that that's an equivalent comparison because i think
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levying the label of nazi towards somebody who's right wing is or like orders of magnitude a
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more egregious perhaps mislabeling than just calling somebody woke woke doesn't seem to have
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quite the gravitas yes uh and like it's not quite as negative as nazi i agree with that but when they
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say woke like he he calls everyone marxist and communists um andrew i mean i think marxist and
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communists huh only marxist and communists and you call them like what you always use the word
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the word debauchery degeneracy degeneracy and um only degenerates and just yeah um yeah i don't call
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anyone a nazi um that's what i'm saying i'm not would you call a nazi a nazi for sure
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um and then calling people who are protesting um so domestic terrorists i think it goes extreme on
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both sides can i ask you something because you're both citing it what you're doing i'm not both
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citing it i lean more left it's called a i lean more i'm a libertarian i've talked about this i haven't
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said a word okay okay what you're doing is called both citing it's a it's a the attempt to pretend that
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you have neutral positions when you don't have neutral positions and that's what you're doing
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is you're both citing for instance you said you're talking about nazis and woke andrew you call
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everybody a degenerate andrew you call everybody a marxist no i call marxist marxist i call communists
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communists i call degenerates degenerates i ask you would you call a nazi a nazi yeah so what's the
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difference some of the ways you describe people i don't agree with um without is it is somebody who
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participates in gangbangs nightly a degenerate yes okay is somebody the majority of people on the
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left aren't doing gangbangs that's not what i'm asking though is somebody who uh says that they're a
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stalinist communist are they marxist yeah yeah okay so and then it's somebody who who is wearing a
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uniform that says ss and has a swastika on it are they a nazi yes but you're conflating half the
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population as one thing and half the population is something else when have i done these when have
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i done these things not all of them i've yeah and you literally say i hate i know i'm christian and
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but i hate the left i do it's true yeah i mean i do fucking hate leftists yeah it's god will one
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day punish my eternal soul so for the fact that i just cannot bring myself to not hate fucking leftists
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well okay then you shouldn't be preaching morals to the world why not because preach the morals just
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don't do it in the name of jesus if you're going against what jesus says so just be perfect don't be
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perfect but so how imperfect don't be vain you're not supposed to be vain how is that vanity that's
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me that's the opposite of vanity me saying i have a the the moral failing right an aspect of my own
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morality that's very difficult for me to a demon that's very difficult for me to surmount which is
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i know i'm not supposed to hate people i know that but i also can't fucking help but hate leftists i
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can't and by the way that's a struggle that christians all over the united states have every
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single day wouldn't it be the opposite of vanity if i say to people if i if i were to go hey i'm
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fucking perfect in every conceivable way i'm without flaw i am awesome in every conceivable way
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that's vanity wouldn't the opposite of vanity me being me saying look i know that i have a high
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moral standard and i know i myself at times don't live up to that high moral standard which is part
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of christian ethics isn't that the opposite of being vain no i think being vain is not working on
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it and openly saying like you did to charlie i'm better than you and calling her dumb and stuff like
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that i don't think that's the correct way to go about she shouldn't open her stupid mouth about my
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wife then that was before that happened actually it was right before but no it wasn't yes it wasn't it
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was after i'll bet you 100 bucks it was after i know for sure the stupid thing became came before
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well perhaps we shouldn't have a meta conversation oh well no that's true i called her stupid but
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stupid has nothing to do with did was i attacking her family no i didn't do any of that me saying you
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have a stupid position or that's idiotic or that's moronic right that's light stuff well like
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blessed are the meek blessed are the peacemakers and the thing about christianity is you're supposed to
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be is you're supposed to strive and work to be for the way i perceive jesus is literally trying to get
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to discipleship which means like following all of the commandments and not using like being forgiven as
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a sinner as an excuse to keep doing it you have to always work towards being better yeah instead of
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just accepting like oh this is me um yeah you have to work for that um and it doesn't i've told this
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story many times the story of the monk i don't know if you've heard that before it was a monk who was an
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alcoholic his entire life and then when he died people were crying and one monk said why are you
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crying he was a drunk his entire life and they were so happy because he had cut his booze consumption
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down by half just meant that the entirety he was trying to overcome that demon his entire life and
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he couldn't quite do it okay i get it i understand right if you think that i don't struggle with the
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fact that there i do have heavy hatred in my heart for leftists you're wrong struggle with it all the
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time i understand that i'm not a perfect person i've always understood i'm not a perfect person
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i also understand these people do everything that they can to make sure i fucking hate them too
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a lot of everything they can do to make sure i hate them education um so yeah um they're the most
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educated people on both sides they're the most educated people on the planet who the the only
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vangirls you have leftist yes and you think with more education comes more wisdom or that's what your
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point just was five seconds ago five seconds ago you're like it's lack of education no i mean the
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people on your on like this that comes on this show is what i was talking about most of them have more
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education than i do yeah that's why i see things from a bigger picture our educational system is
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fucked like i watch this show and i'm like wow where's where's the world coming to but i also watch on
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the left when they ask similar questions about history and stuff and government and they're just as
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they're just as clueless so i i that's why i think i have an advantage no they're just monstrous
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of just they're just monsters seeing the bigger picture of like i mean we're all we're all fucked
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up we're all kind of dumb and um instead of fighting each other maybe we should just work on fixing the
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issues yeah the problem is is that we can't even agree on what the descriptors of the issues are
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well i think we should start with just um what they call it table issues we don't okay all can
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agree and give me a table issue um a good economy we can all agree on ending corruption okay great so
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we can all agree on yeah let's start with this like a good economy would you agree with me that it
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would lower housing prices if we were to deport every illegal immigrant tomorrow yes okay great do you
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think that the left's going to go along with that no no so i don't not understand how so how is it
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that when you have a table issue you say okay here's an issue i want a good economy okay great
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we can start with hang on hang on hang on let me finish the point okay how is it that if i can't find
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any common ground with these people how are we supposed to uh surmount these ideological differences
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exactly you can tell me how to do that if you stick to the basic common ground first of all like
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most yeah the housing mark market issue is isn't an issue of like it might contribute like the
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legals might contribute a little bit but um yeah that that's you see what i mean we can't even agree
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on descriptors so if we can't even agree on descriptors of problems how is it that you expect
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that you have to look at everything as a full picture you can't all right i'll tell you what
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let's do it this way tell me the full picture the full picture and in my imaginary you know perfect
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situation of how to fix things is the first thing we need to do is vote out all the the puppets
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and vote hang on who's we we the people everyone on both sides forget the culture wars let's just
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have a a small truce until the agreed upon terms are agreed upon and then we can get to the to the
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cultural issues okay and who are the puppets we're voting out what are their names what are their
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puppets names um well it's not just one person it's um the corporations it's the cia the corporations
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aren't names of people who are the puppets we're voting out what are their names oh um just vote based
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off of the packs that have contributed to their funds i'm asking about names what are the names
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of the people we should be voting out mostly all of them who give me some names um i can say who to
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keep keep thomas massey keep rand paul um mtj you know i'm sure she's gonna come back on the the left
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um what's the dude that was teaming with um yeah i know but who are the so who are the global puppets
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that we're going to come together to get rid of there's easy ways to look at this is to there's
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websites where you can look at their um campaign fund contributions and you can actually see how they vote
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on certain things whether um it seems directly correlate to like money or um or packs like you see
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the vagary do you see how vague you are it's not vague well you're hang on you're saying what you're
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doing is you're saying it's us versus them we versus those okay i understand that but who's the we
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and who are the they the we are we the people deciding to well these are people whoever's on your
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side if they if you elected them and they promise all these things and they're going directly against
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what you elected them for plus contribute have pack um contributions from like corporations and if
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they're getting rich um by trading stock um that sort of thing then maybe they should go yeah but the
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problem is is that we live in a democracy democracies are set up in power structures and the power
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structures are set up based around people's interests so people have learned that they can
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raid the treasury by having x amount of people who are representing their interests in office
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exactly so there is no hang on hang on no if that's exactly then your point's contradicted no yeah i wasn't
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gonna explain how your point's contradicted because there is no we there is no collective what there is
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is there's a whole bunch of different power blocks all competing for it for their own interests
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in the united states for power yeah that's what's happening so when you say we should put our petty
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differences aside well they're not petty differences they're massive differences there is no collective we
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there's groups and blocks of people who are competing for power utilizing the democratic process that's
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what's happening so how do you plan on surmounting that barrier how can i go vote for people
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oh we're gonna vote harder we're gonna vote our way out of this do either that or revolution this is
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my last attempt this is who are we right who are we having a revolution against the voting block is
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just as bad as the elites they put in power so who the fuck are we supposed to revolt against am i
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supposed to revolt let's say i did let's say we did tomorrow we revolted against the government
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let's just say right who's we then which power block is revolting against which which block of
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government in order to get power which one am i supposed to support because the way that the
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democracy is set up it's not a monolith it is independent power interest and they're all voting
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against the interest of other people and in their own that's why we need to hire people who have
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taken no pack money and their biggest objectives um to start off with is repealing the the laws
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that got this situation here to begin with yeah but the problem you can't do that and here's why
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if you have you have packs and super packs out there right now who are supporting abortion rights
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for women right yeah yeah okay so all the people who want abortion rights all the women who want
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abortion rights they want those packs donating they think they're benevolent they think that's
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good and so on the other side the people who are anti-abortion who think that you're murdering tons
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and tons and tons of children right they support pack endeavors which are designed to put politicians
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in place which will put local legislation against things like abortion i'd say no packs what what i would
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do in a perfect world is get rid of the packs all together and use government funding and give them
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all equal equal amount to campaign on and take take that out of so you're going to give all the power
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of the vote to the media to the media yeah and i mean there's more than just the media let's say
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that there's more than just the media there's door knocking there's if you had let's say you had
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four politicians right and all of them were funded with public financing they all got the same
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amount let's say it was one million dollars right let's just say it was whichever politician
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mass media covers the most that's actually going to be the politician that wins it doesn't matter
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how it doesn't matter the money at that point because media who's covering them they'll always be
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able to pump in whatever money they want they'll end up electing the person that they want
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well maybe we should make laws against that as well what what do those look like you don't yeah
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exactly you don't know you don't know the whole i'm not a lawmaker my whole thing is us as a people
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i thought you had this great bird's eye view and understood how it all worked i understand what's
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happening and i understand if we all work together we can start making some steps in the right direction
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how are we going to work together we can't even agree on the issues i don't know what you've been
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watching but this has been spreading all over media that were of this pact or of we all agree
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on america first we all agree on we don't agree on that the majority of us do no the majority of us
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don't yes america america first was kind of more of a dumb thing like we were tired of all the wars
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this whole time america first kind of came in no america first was the idea was trump capturing the
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idea of the american family again the idea that you could have a single income and support an entire
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family by utilizing a tax system based on tariffs against our enemies and making it fair again that
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was one of the that was the probably the core idea of america hang on hang on let me finish my point
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the core idea of america first was that right the idea that he was going to get rid of all the
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illegal immigrants things like that yes that's true that that was a core part of his message
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but ultimately he was trying to trying to reinvigorate and recapture the idealism
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of the american family that is what america first really was well i'd say the majority of the
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population believes america first is taking care of um us before we start bombing people and funding
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israel and bailing people out and i agree but that but who's we again when you say taking care of us
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first he is the american family it is the same thing because you act like dims don't want to have
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families and stuff they fucking hate families can you look up the statistics on that uh there actually
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is something on this um hey uh nathan can you go pull up the discord do you know our discord well
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uh we do have some data on this i have an infographic uh nathan let me know when you you're on the discord
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okay so you're going to scroll down there's a research tab in our discord uh so it's not a uh
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it's it's closer to the bottom and you're going to see whatever stats infographics do you see the
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infographics okay and then if you scroll three up uh do you see the nbc news decision desk poll
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yeah okay so uh you're going to click on that and there's two photos
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click on the first one and then sorry put it window tab uh click on the image
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all right uh you you might have to uh hi i'm just going to read it but so this is women who voted for
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harris they have uh this is the importance to personal definition of success so at the very top
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for women who voted for harris democrats fulfilling job career 51 at the very bottom uh here you're
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going to have to hide us uh okay in the sources tab do you see where it says right corner just hide
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us temporarily yeah so it says uh for women who vote for harris it's uh being married six percent
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having children six percent and then mouse over to the next image uh yeah click that one and then
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click on it and this is uh men who vote for harris being married 11 having children nine percent you can
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compare and contrast that with the women who vote for trump versus the uh men who vote for trump
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interestingly enough can you go back to the other one
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uh so men who voted for trump having children uh is at the very top there being married 29
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and you contrast that with women who vote for harris actually men who voted for trump have a higher
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priority for uh having children being married than even women who vote for trump can just pull up the
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other one really quick again uh so even women who vote for trump they they actually rank being married
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and having children lower than men who vote for trump but it's still greater than uh democrats i think
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what contributes to that is um where we are financially um i do agree there's more people
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on the left that don't want kids um but the we were raised they're anti-natalist monsters
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see they're anti-natalism see that's what you got to work on okay so well i mean what do you want to
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say when the baby boom happened right the baby boom yeah like you know boomers yeah and all of that
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is it happened um when our economy was in a great space like um and yeah um i think people are waiting
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to get married till they're older and have kids till they're older because feminism well i mean yeah that
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has a part to it but um it's freaking expensive andrew was asking you a good question as to you
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know you're saying we should all unite and get together and but andrew said well we don't even
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agree on some of these basic issues just curious what's your position but he brought up uh illegal
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immigration for example and how that has an impact on the economy the housing stock in this country
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is diminished if it's you know occupied by illegal immigrants are you in favor of uh deporting all
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the illegal immigrants in this country um i have a middle ground i would deport both sides
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the world has a middle ground literally nothing is black and white two questions can i finish the
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answer yeah yeah just let me let me revise the question yes deport most of them uh should we
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completely bar like have stronger border protection yes so barring people from entering the country
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illegally and then the second question of the people who have arrived here illegally who are here uh
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should we just deport them um my stance is for sure have um the best border security as possible
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as for the people who have been here for a long time have created businesses and um really integrated
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into our society with no criminal records i think it's actually cheaper to um come up with a plan for
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for them to um become legal instead of kicking them out so amnesty yeah i mean they have to pay like
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if they don't a lot of them do pay taxes but back taxes and fines and um get on the list and
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there definitely should be some like fines so when we get together to agree on these table issues
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right yeah should we agree with you and give amnesty to these people we financially i think it's cheaper
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um first of all but um would it be cheaper to not well hang on a second brian because i'm just um yeah
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i think as american and democracy uh we should all work together and it's not all black or white like
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the most right or to them but that's not my question my question is is like when we say we here
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you know um most we vote on most people on the right yeah okay we vote on it we did we voted in
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trump yeah so the thing is is like they here here's the question though the question is um should we
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when you say we the collective we who are all supposed to be working hand in hand should we just
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follow what you're saying and get rid or i'm sorry give amnesty to illegals um i think if you look at
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um what the polls say um the majority of people aren't cool with what's happening um they think
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yeah they think it went too far and it's not really we all agree law and order is necessary but
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the way it's um been going about well it's amazing to me that you want the collective we to get
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together to do things you want it's i think we we all want we we're all tired of the hate um
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yeah i don't think that there's a collective we when you say we you just mean me okay no i'm not
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i watch both left and right politics we're all talking about the same shit um that's what i get
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from not picking sides completely literally the trump's poll numbers are like 37 right now all of
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the podcasters obama's poll numbers were really low too all of the podcasters who help get trump
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elected except for a few they all agree with what i'm saying even which ones like joe rogan um david
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smith uh candace owens you think joe rogan agrees with you that ice went too far yeah he said it in
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his videos really he didn't say it when i was talking to him i don't know if you've watched joe
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rogan but he kind of like agrees with everybody i don't know if you've talked to joe rogan but i have
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yeah i saw you talk i don't know what you're talking but no that didn't appear to be what
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his position was he appeared should we pull that up he appeared to think that leftists
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were part of a massive uh conspiracy and what that i saw that i watched your episode yeah so then what
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are you talking about he's saying the riots did but in his previous videos he said that ice went too
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far and um no he didn't actually say that and with the masks and what he said what he was his recent
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video he was he was he had the conspiracy that um like it was orchestrated uh it's not a reason for
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to cover up uh it's the fraud that was happening in minnesota it's not a conspiracy i mean most
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stuff that's happening is funded by by different sides i agree with that but he does agree ice in
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general has gone too far i don't think and trump with the way he's that's not what i heard from
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him can we look it up if you want to take an out of context clip because i know the one you're
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referencing no i watch every one of his episodes okay well then what was the episode called there
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was multiple of them we have to go so name one of them does anyone know names of people's episodes
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yes i think yes i think it was maybe a dave smith episode can we look this up internet uh i mean i don't
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know if there's copyright considerations if we pull up a clip but not just that besides i'll just
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i'll even grant rogan let's just say that rogan does he just rogan is all over there yeah well okay
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who who else dave smith candace owens day okay dave smith's libertarian i know dave smith's a
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libertarian right not a right winger at all well uh candace owens is a conspiracy nutcase literally
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half your side is a conspiracy in that case joe rogan is too okay i love it most of the
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conspiracies come out true um they do do they i mean to a point yeah you know what my brother said
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like this pizza my brother said something really funny i'm about to get i'm about to get whatever
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canceled my brother said something super funny he said that candace owen needs to get to the back of
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the algorithm that's not he said that for us i yeah but anyway just to be fair i did look up your
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claim about joe rogan apparently in an episode january 2026 this is an ai overview sometimes it's
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incorrect but at least it does say that he joe rogan compared their tactics to the gestapo and did
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suggest they went too far and then by detaining individuals including u.s citizens on the streets
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without proper calls first of all i saw that episode right and in context he was having a
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conversation about this with the guest he wasn't actually adopting that position that's one the
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second is what he does in all of the second the second is is that uh his his position at least when
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i talked to him was that he understood that hey there is definitely an orchestrated plan by leftists
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in order to agitate using a math and they use a mathematical formula to do it they agitate
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in order to get feds to overreact and when the feds overreact then they justify their garbage
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fucking politics by saying that they're the gestapo well there's a the same thing conspiracy
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on the right that if you look at project 2025 beforehand it um and yeah it kind of plans this
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sort of thing using military action and stuff um well hold on before we get into project 2025
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even even yeah there's the same conspiracy on the even if we were to grant look even if we're going
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to go ahead and grant and say yes ice has made certain mistakes here you know law enforcement uh
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law enforcement they're they're humans they make mistakes uh all lot you know in all kinds of
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different professions people make mistakes law enforcement makes mistakes but in terms of their
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core mission their foundational base mission which is to deport genuine illegal immigrants
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do you object to their core mission i don't object to that but the one thing yeah you do you want
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amnesty not not complete amnesty okay um it's a long-term um solution but another joe rogan quote was
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and a lot of others said that we joe rogan's not here but i know we voted to to deport all the criminals
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he's not but it's not just that it's not just him either it's joe rogan most people think we went
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too far he's more of a middle of the road guy dave smith's a libertarian when you're talking about
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right-wingers i want to hear i want to hear right-wingers the right-wingers who would agree with your
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plan for amnesty who are they um i'm not talking by the way dave smith wouldn't agree with that plan
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for amnesty either i'm not i didn't bring about i didn't talk about amnesty i said that um in general
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trump's campaign was about criminals and grapists yeah but what would they never said they were
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going to bring mass people these people have committed a crime by they should be deported i
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get that i'm saying for yeah i'm a little confused on one hand you said i think there's a cheaper
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better solution yeah deport people but um can i ask you a question really quick you say it's cheaper
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do you think as far as you know having illegal immigrants in this country the only thing that
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we're focused on is purely the economics of it like there's other factors too perhaps no i i agree
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you don't want the white race to your argument is well it would be cheaper to like have them
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create a pathway to allow them to stay here wouldn't it be technically cheaper let's say
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hypothetically there was a murderer but he only commit he you know uh you have like precognition
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you know that he will only have committed that one murder and he will never murder again and he
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will otherwise be a law-abiding citizen uh from there on out uh you would agree that it would be
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cheaper to not you know have law enforcement attempt to investigate the murder and you know
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go through the criminal uh prosecution process it would be cheaper right to just let the murderer
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off what i'm talking about no but answer the question oh of course it would be cheaper right
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so but just because something's cheaper doesn't necessarily mean that that is the uh right course
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of action well i think the right course of action is to do investigations like that on on these people
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who've been here for for a long time um because like yeah that's cheaper i think what well you said
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it's cheaper to let them just give them pathway to citizenship which may be true i mean it is it is
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true but i think investigation and just like how you know what we should make sure that they're not
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criminals and um have a good standing in society by uh entering the country illegally all the time
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that's a civil crime that's not speeding is equivalent to being here illegally we would do
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the same thing it's not if you're trying to save your family and your wife that's not evil law
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enforcement uh does enforce speeding they'll give out speeding tickets i i actually agree with you we
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would do the same thing so what yeah um the difference is i guess empathy i mean i know you
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don't have empathy it's not suicidal empathy i want the majority of them to be deported that's not too
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much empathy that yeah that's having some empathy so um the thing the thing here that's funny
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is it's anytime you talk to both sides or they're always they're always leftist and they're always
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lives and they're always like hey you know the thing is you just said that you were more on the
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left side than the right side that's because of social freedom if you look at libertarians
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they want social freedom and considering both sides have completely fucked our government with
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spending i'm going to go more towards the dims what social what libertarians want is they want
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social freedom affirmed by property rights the united states is property of the citizens of the
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united states from the libertarian ethos deporting fucking people who aren't supposed to be here
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would be just fine and appropriate and good that to the states to decide what if they want them to
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gone or not isn't that more libertarian no to let the states decide if they want the people out or not
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so here's the thing it's funny it's like okay uh so you agree that the border states those are the
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ones who would take the brunt of that right and those states would basically be utilizing their
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resources to protect all the states behind them the brunt of what allowing people people to vote on
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people legally crossing like for instance the texas border californian border these these arizona these
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are going to be states that are going to take the brunt of illegal immigration right yeah then then let them
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have laws that and the government can pay for the funding to keep it secure but then how is that
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it's up to the states uh to make their own laws regarding who can stay and who can who has great and
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then one state says you can have complete amnesty here and then all the illegals go into that state
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get amnesty and then go back to the other state that they want to go to everything in life has consequences
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consequences and and when you want a smaller government they do it does does everything in
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life i'm that's crazy i didn't know everything usually when people make dumb mistakes in law they
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correct them we're a young nation that's how we grow yeah you do do you know how you correct this
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you get rid of the illegals all of them i don't think the majority of our issues are illegal immigrants
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that's what i'm trying to say illegal immigrants what are the majority of our issues
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um i would say our tax trucker structure structure and um our 39 trillion dollars in debt yeah so let's
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talk about our tax structure you want us to pay 90 like sanders no i think that's ridiculous how much
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um i say literally just start with getting rid of the loopholes for the i i think the it's more the
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corporations i think um wealthy people who like our doctors and stuff they're playing they're paying
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pretty high taxes um if you look at uh so um the corporate tax rate says it's at 21 percent but um
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it's actually with all the reductions and um kickbacks and stuff um averaged at 11 percent but um
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if you look at the rich and it goes from poorest corporations so you want to raise taxes on
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corporations get get rid of the loopholes first off that would raise their taxes yeah i think that
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would make a big uh difference that would raise their taxes right okay let me ask you a question
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if a corporation's making a product for you to buy which is what they're doing and you raise their
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taxes what happens to the price of that product um it could go up oh it could oh i'm sorry i didn't i
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wasn't aware do corporations pass on the cost of a product to the consumer yeah oh you got it
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tariffs wait wait a second the tariffs are adding cost to the consumer as well wait i'm super confused
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though so you want to get rid of the tariff because it's adding it's adding on cost to the consumer but
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you want to raise corporate taxes which is adding cost to the consumer well brilliant plan my plans
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bigger in the future um since ai is taking over and uh we're all basically gonna be jobless um
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yeah i think the corporations oh yeah there needs to be an excessive wealth tax what's crazy if 10
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of the uh s&p 500 pays zero corporate taxes and um yeah um a lot of them are getting money back from
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the government and i think that's crazy and your brilliant time of the 1950s yeah we didn't have
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this when have i ever advocated to go back to the 1950s ever i mean you've talked about it a lot on
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this never happened once i mean if you look at from the 1970s and above the um the the wealth
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distribution has gone from the middle class to the rich and um it's still increasing and you can see
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what happened and it didn't start with reagan but yeah he did a good job getting um
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so your plan is raising the prices of consumer goods that's your plan that's trump's plan too right
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no um his plan was to utilize my plan is his plan was to utilize tariffs my plan is legit if you look
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at graphs we're becoming poor and what you would call the epstein class keeps getting richer and
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they're the ones controlling what i also call a shadow government richer not poor what are you talking
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about can you look up a graph yeah all you got to do is showing the 1950s to now about wealth
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distribution yeah no no it's not about wealth distribution show instead that's inflation show
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instead poverty line the poverty line how do you agree with me right now that way more people are
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above the poverty line they have you know how the poverty line is is created i do it's not realistic
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in a world with technology and stuff like that it's that's an old school way of looking at it if you
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look at it with realistic today's standards the poverty line is much higher than yeah and how many
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millionaires do we have right now i don't know i'm not even worried about yeah i'm worried about
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the corporations i don't i know the court you want to raise taxes on corporations thus raising prices
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on consumer goods yeah yeah fine great that's probably for the better great if it takes our
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country i can't wait to endorse this plan where i spend more money on things i buy you're doing that
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for for tariffs no you're not doing that for tariffs tariffs don't work that way that's not the same
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thing at all my bigger picture is we're about our society is going to collapse if we don't take down
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the debt um and how are we going to do that we're we should lower um make this government smaller but
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also we're going to need more tax revenue which that's where the corporations come in and then
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once jobs are eliminated if we don't have laws put in place um like an extreme wealth tax like they had
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in the 1950s then that nobody paid yeah there was loopholes some people did pay it but almost nobody
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paid it just so you know did they have the excess wealth well what they had was a they had a marginal
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tax so what would happen is if you reach certain threshold then they would tax x amount of that yeah
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okay now you made 10 million dollars at 10 million dollars we get 90 percent of that 10th million or
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whatever the average actual corporate tax rate was 41 percent if you did that right now it wouldn't
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put a dent in the debt wouldn't even say we also need to make the government smaller thomas massey's
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plan is to take six cents off of every and what do we what does our government spend the most money on
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um our debt and the military and then it spends the most amount of money on entitlements yeah get rid
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of entitlements okay so you so you want to you want to both sides it and get all the people who are
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collecting social security to stop collecting social security they've paid for it i think
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no that's our biggest i'm not talking about everything like every single thing i'm saying
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reducing food stamps reducing stuff like that we're paying for our own retirement so i would make a law
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that says people born from this date there's no longer social security um and what i would do is
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we don't need a post office that's pretty so people have been paying into social security
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they're now oh i don't know that's why you start now hang on now they're 59 years old they don't
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get it fuck them no that's why i said we have to make this law in advance to start for people who
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haven't been born yet or paid for into social security so we're going to rack up another uh 60
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years of debt no um there's other forms to deduct there's yeah the post office is completely useless
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um yeah we need to take money off of everything everything's going to suffer a bit but also
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like doge was supposed to do we need a better system of um people who aren't connected you know
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what's funny it's like i agree with you on some of the prescriptions that you have yeah right for
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instance shrinking the size of government in some arenas i think is a great idea probably not the
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military definitely entitlements i think the idea i think the idea of a massive corporate tax is just
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going to raise consumer good prices i don't want a massive one but hang on it's just good well no
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matter what you do it's going to raise consumer prices so the thing is is like even if i agree
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to some of these prescriptions if we're going back to the original point now we're going to tie it back
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in how the fuck are you going to get other people to agree with you on it how how are you going to get
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people to give up their entitlements saying i can do it they're all voting in the interest of their
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entitlements all of them the whole reason democracy doesn't work in the long term the reason that
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republicanism is much better and the reason that the average person probably shouldn't vote at all
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is exactly this reason because once they realize they can raid the treasury as a monolith which now
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they know how how to do by voting in politicians who will raid the treasury in order to give them
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entitlements democracy's fucked the second that happens it's fucked i think the left really needs to
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be and i mean everyone in general needs to be more educated on more educated no i'm on uh the
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financial state of our country because for so long both sides have been like oh it's whatever
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we print money sort of vibes but no one really understands i don't want to educate the stupid
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you can't educate them you just don't let them vote that's what you do you just stop letting stupid
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fucking people vote i do agree we need like some sort of competence i don't think they should be voting
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either i think there needs to be a competency test so you can understand how basic things work how
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about stakeholder that would be good something like that some kind of stake in the game i don't
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know about stake because poor people yeah those i'm disabled does that make me unable to vote because
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if i'm poor if you're if you're it's funny it's like so you just made my point for me if you're
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disabled right and you vote you're not going to vote against your own disability are you you're not
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going to vote against cash for your own disability well i don't get any cash for it if you did
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of course i wouldn't of course you wouldn't you're going to vote in your interest and that interest is
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robbing the treasury of other people's money for you that's the problem with democracy and power blocks
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and that's why your plan of both sizing all the both sizers are retarded it doesn't work in real time
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i'm saying complete work work for i mean uh vote for who you want to vote for based off of whatever
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values and what wants is the only thing i'm asking for people to agree on is to like i hate gavin newsom
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and how everyone's calling him the president because they they watch whatever because he's the loudest and
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they're like oh gavin newsom president i'm saying and but if you look at his past he's he's a corporate
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like slimeball i'm just asking people to before they judge people based off of their party
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look at their campaign contributions so fucking stupid they are they're willing to vote a guy
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like gavin newsom into office and you think you're going to convince those people to go along with
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your yeah everybody's kind of waking up to like the whole israel thing and the the deep state and
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that's a completely x that's an exposition listen it's happening all over the place already israel
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the support support for israel i'm just going to be completely blunt with you a lot of people don't
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like hearing this but they know it's true the position of support for israel globally is still
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a very popular position in fact it's much yeah you can look it up it is still a very popular position
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to uh to have support of israel what you're talking about boomers not young people who are taking over
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yeah but young people don't support shit they hate everything which is fair i i understand that i get it
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so but what you're talking about when you're talking about the global awakening right yeah the
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global awakening to do what the leftist global awakening is to well we're going to soak the
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millionaires and billionaires and we're going to raise the corporate taxes and we're going to stop
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these people from um taking away your your birthright by by instituting more forms of entitlements and
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individual rights for abortion things like this the right-wing great awakening is we're going to
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stop foreign powers from interfering in our business focus on families and remove degeneracy
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they're dialectically opposed to each other yeah um not really i'm saying vote for who you want
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and the thing is just take out the corporate pack money it's as simple as that see how they vote on
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israel like 83 percent of people vote towards israel like vote all those fuckers out start with that
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look you can get rid of the packs this has been looked at many many times okay the problem is is
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that you give media then a massive upper hand no one watches no i'm you're talking about like boomers
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the media like i don't know do you think that young people are voting they don't vote who votes
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it's the old people who vote well they're about to yeah um not be around that much longer and what's
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left now is oh man i've been hearing for 20 years the boomers are about to die out i mean i hope they're
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going to be around for a long time i look things at a bigger picture of how things are going to be
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swaying and how politics is going to look so what i see is yeah the only people like who watch fox and
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like mainstream news are mostly some gen x but like boomers everybody else who are young are coming on to
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like youtube and stuff for for sources and if you look at them everyone who's actually like
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have is influence and has influence for young people they all agree with exactly what i'm saying
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and they're telling other people they don't yeah no they do about the packs the problem is you're
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right people do switch over to online now instead of uh old media they do and you know who else they
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see there they're not seeing like a base chad right wingers they're seeing hassan piker they're
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seeing destiny they're seeing all these left-wing scumbags who are pushing their left-wing message
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and guess what that poisonous message that's worked it's worked well yeah and you act like this dialectic
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just doesn't exist because you wish it didn't but it does i literally watch all of them there's
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something changing in politics like um everyone's realizing we're not we're not each other's enemies like
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let's say uh i know you're not i watch both like the opposite i watch it's like the opposite yeah
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because you're realizing everyone's evil side uh like tucker carlson had the dude on that um from
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the young turks with them with them there's even a website where you can go sign up yeah um just
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promoting the site to where we can all make a pack to end the pack sort of vibes um and yeah thank you
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sankiger has been on the uh end money in politics train for an awful long time it's really funny
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though because a lot of that comes from sankiger focusing on the fact that he was a media talking
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head who is very important people and they a lot of these guys thought that if you got rid of pack
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money that they would be able to utilize media like they did the original time donald trump ran
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where they use media to try to demonize him run the steel dossier run conspiracy theories about him
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you do give media an upper hand i agree i hate the fact that there's packs in politics i do but the
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fact of the matter is is that media is so fucking corrupt you can't trust them either well um that's
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why i also advocate for people to fact check and young people are people are realizing that people
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young people are dumber now that they've ever been yes that's why i would agree that they
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that's why i would agree that we should raise the voting rate age but to what um maybe like 25 or
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something how about how about instead of raising the voting age you put in a restriction like got
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to be married and have kids that's the whole christian nationals thing what's wrong with that
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the majority of the country is christian technically but i don't think even they would want that why not
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you're kind of like a good idea you're kind of eliminating like your strength in the vote if you
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do that right why how because if you and your wife both vote for the person you want if you're
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eliminating it then you only get one vote instead of two people with families and kids are going to
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be more aligned with my ideology yeah but you're still going to lose if you implement does that make
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you higher likely to lose no maybe make you a higher likelihood to win if the people who vote are more
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aligned with your ideology no because there's a lot of leftists right who don't have families
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because they kill their kids you said married you didn't say you can only i said married with kids
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you have a family yeah well why don't you do one household voting something like you don't even have
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to do that i'm just saying that anything that has stake in the nation is going to be better
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than this dumb idea that just everybody should be enfranchised our founders didn't want that they
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hated it they hated the idea that everybody would be enfranchised they didn't want
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anything to do with that well the founding fathers also um yeah gave us the way to amend the
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constitution because they understood that they didn't have all the answers and society would
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change they didn't want it amended so that everybody could vote i could tell you that well they put that
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ability in and this is where society that was interpreted by the way but the thing is it's funny
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about everything's an interpretation yeah the thing that's funny about this is like no they were they had
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no intention they didn't trust the electorate because they thought they were stupid and they
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were right well times haven't changed in that regard but they haven't um yeah i i would i don't
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think it yeah that's the whole christian nationalist thing i don't agree with that's not even christian
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nationalist um a lot of people can't have kids so did i put the restriction you had to be a christian
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no a lot of people can't have kids so why fuck them why do they get to vote what makes it a right
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that people have like oh you get to vote just because you exist like that's the stupid position
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that's the constitution no it's not currently currently yes it is it was never intended
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for to have a vote it was never intended for everybody to vote ever never what they did intend to
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do was uh give us the option to change it um and we have that option so if you want to take away that
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right let's do a um uh whatever it's called the um conservation i thought you just got done saying
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you like the 10th amendment huh so why don't you just leave voting restrictions up to the state
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like we used to so then the state right the state can actually put in the representatives instead of you
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doesn't that sound better i mean like i'm not completely opposed to that except that i would
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kind of make different like completely the united states wouldn't be very united anymore and we'd all
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just live it's not united now and your world view no just not it's just not united i don't i don't know
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i don't know if you know that this state that we're in right now is like a whole different universe
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than the state that i currently live in it's like a whole different world but um basically i think we
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should do a competency test i don't think you i mean there's smart people who aren't married um
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or with kids i think that's kind of fucked up to not let them vote why where's this idea that
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everybody should have the right to vote come from because our current constitution didn't come from our
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founders yeah but what are you basing fathers what are you a whole different world what are you even
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basing it on though forget the constitution for a second what from your view actually makes it
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something that you think is right that everybody should be able to vote what like my value set aside
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like yeah what part of your value sets demanding that um like god jesus god would demand that everyone
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could vote no um uh not god would demand not yeah being fair to everybody and um what like jesus would
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jesus would demand that everyone could vote no none of them would demand anything because they don't get
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into politics right but what they do what jesus does advocate for is um groups that are um seen as
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outcast the poor that people should be charitable towards those groups not that they should have a
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say in policy but did he say they should though no that that would make my point yeah um what what is the
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value set that you're appealing to that just makes you think everyone should be able to vote what
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what jesus's words himself what words what words of jesus christ makes you think that everybody
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should be your neighbor you can you you have to hate your neighbor if they can't vote and yeah um
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be kind to the yeah be kind to um yeah sorry i'm i'm bleak be kind to um foreigners there's all kinds
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of things okay so you can be kind of foreigners and be nice to your neighbor and they don't have to
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vote peacemakers great the peacemakers can be blessed and they still don't have to vote i don't
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understand where is this they need to vote part come in because i don't i think we all should be
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equal like in in that right oh we should just all be equal yeah if you can pass the test that makes
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you qualified yeah why why is it though again you you see how you you uh intersuppose immediately
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that they should without appealing to the constitution there's things in the constitution take the
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constitution out of it so i did that's what i'm doing i'm still asking you the same question if
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we have the constitution out of it right then why what appeal are you making that people should be
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able to do this what what what is the ethical dilemma here you can't vote and that's unethical because
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this is how i put it like yeah um my spiritual beliefs lead me to that conclusion what in your
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spiritual beliefs lead you to the conclusion that it's unethical if guy a is not allowed to vote
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what we all whether you're atheist or not yeah have been put on a path okay from god right and you
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choose to make good and bad decisions right that's free will and yeah i think this whole christian
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nationalist thing is trying to control what decisions people make which is against god this
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literally doesn't answer my question repeat it sorry i will start again i kind of blame not appealing to
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the constitution we're just purely appealing i knew where i was going with your christian ethical
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system why from the christian standpoint is it unethical if some guy can't vote or some girl we
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all have like god's energy in us that tells us what's right and what's wrong whether we realize it or not
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and we all have that and um my yeah my heart says that it's wrong so i mean you can agree
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differently but that's literally that's where the constitution you're just appealing to your intuition
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yeah that's where the constitution comes in if you want to change it hang on hang on i just want to
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make sure i got this right the reason it's unethical to not let people vote from your view is because
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your heart tells you it is there's right and wrong that's how our constitution is formed by
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the majority of people saying what's right and wrong help me out here help me out here if my intuition
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right and i make the same exact appeal because god puts on your heart what is right and wrong
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i think it's wrong to let people vote well why am i wrong and you're right i didn't say you were
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wrong yeah but we're appealing now to ethics so why is my ethics in this this case inferior to your own
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i never said it was inferior that's so then what i'm doing is just as ethical as what you're doing
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in your own opinion no in your opinion i'm not asking about in my opinion i'm asking about your
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opinion i would say no why it's based off of faith plus what's in store in the constitution if we
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want to go change that we're just talking about ethics well ethics is based off of what the whole
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united states decides decides so are you christian without the constitution constitution's gone
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tomorrow you're still appealing to the same set of ethics right um yeah i mean i call myself a
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follower jesus not not okay fine but if the constitution's gone tomorrow your ethics remain
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the same yeah okay great then we don't need the constitution to make an appeal to your ethical
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system so in your ethical system why does everyone need to vote if we don't have the constitution there
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is no voting and you can still vote what do you mean you can vote without the constitution there's all
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sorts of countries that don't have constitutions well i mean what i would do is just get out
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like i mean i would that's not my question my question isn't would you leave my question is
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what would make it unethical i didn't say it would be unethical so it's not unethical then for christian
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nationalists to try to push for people not to vote um yeah i mean it's not unethical because in your
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framework okay that's that's how you see it but that's why i like the constitution what's that i'm
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asking from your framework i know how i see it i'm asking from your framework how could the
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christian nationalists be wrong if you're just saying that the appeal to your ethical system
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if the constitution wasn't there would be exactly the same and you can't tell me why it would be
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unethical at all hang on why it would be unethical at all for christian nationalists to say you can't
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fucking vote i think taking take you're putting power upon yourselves instead of leaving it to god
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like um and you're taking away god's plan god's path how is voting not that but if you're taking
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yeah that's what if you what okay let me think about this sorry my brain is um voting is doing
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exactly the same thing somewhere yeah um we all there's i'm not saying there's anything wrong with
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it that's what i'm saying i believe in the constitution and i believe in jesus's words and i think christian
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nationalist goes against jesus's words that's why it's unethical wait this is super weird to me
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because you said that christian nationalists by taking people's right to vote away would be doing
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something unethical because of the appeal to your ethics and when you appeal to your ethics you say
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the thing is is that that would be restricting free will instead of putting it in god's hands
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but then when i point out the contradiction of you wanting people to vote which does the exact same
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thing you just went oh that's a society i think god should be left out of it church and state
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separation of church and state dude that's why i'm against christian nationalism you shouldn't
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nationalize christianity so what a part what about your ethics says that you you need to separate
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church and state because of the way jesus talked about um the government and oh tell me how he talked
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about the government can i look it up i i need some caffeine okay well you do that i'll have a smoke
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okay um uh okay i you need caffeine i have a few minutes i don't want to leave the podcast
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my brain is just well i mean i'll i'll engage you on this a little bit because some of your the reason
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i'm even not doing this as a 1v1 much of the criticisms that you sent us were uh directed at me
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directed at the podcast uh you for example wrote uh you wrote that you thought that we were
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down to bring on people with opposing views yeah and you you this is about the james tallarico thing
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this is about james tallarico that's the whole reason i was mad at you is because
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for like a year almost i kept trying to get it wasn't a year like six months maybe since i started
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bringing it up that's why i got mad at you it's because you told me to find people who i thought
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were worthy to bring on the show and then i kept bringing it bringing up james tallarico why are you
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doing a quote when that i'm pretty sure that's not what that it we can go into the episode because
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i was saying because you were telling me to recruit people because i didn't think it wasn't up to my
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you said find people up to my standards of who should be on the show you said that on the episode
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on the episode or in that i was on the episodes that i was on but the people can look it up and i said
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fine and i did um and then you were ignoring it that's why i was i was mad yeah you i mean okay
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but you you wrote scared to be called out on i i was trying to um appeal to
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yeah you weren't answering me so i was trying to yeah i'm i'm managing often i'm juggling
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oftentimes hundreds of different dms we already we already had you on uh two shows we had you on a
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dating talk panel and then we had you on uh a sort of very other similarly informal uh debate
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you kind of crashed the debate there's some other girls there uh frankly i mean based off of how
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this debate is going and your performance in the previous debates you're i'm almost somewhat
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regretting having booked this your performance was quite poor on the dating talk your performance
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was poor your performance is poor tonight you're all over the place i've never been in a debate
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i'm incoherent well then why are you asking to if you're not a good debater why are you i i'm here
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for a bigger purpose is to talk to the people who actually understand what i'm saying and you're
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asking are tired of the hate tired well we'll get into that which is part of the reason i'm sitting
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here on the panel here on the show yeah but i mean look look it improved a little bit but the
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first 10-15 minutes of this debate oh boy that was that was rough i i kind of i almost wanted to
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apologize to andrew for you know look hey andrew's andrew's uh he's a bsd what is that don't worry
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about it but but i feel like i got a i felt bad for andrew i'm like man you came all this way we've
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got another debate for him tomorrow by the way guys those of you who are watching the stream
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andrew will be debating not so erudite erudite uh tomorrow at about i think we're aiming to go live
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at 3 30 p.m so given our 3 3 45 but 3 3 30 we're trying to go live 3 30 p.m tomorrow with erudite
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and uh so we do have another debate tomorrow andrew will be here for our dating talk panel
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on sunday guys if you're enjoying the stream um can you go over to uh twitch can you pull up the
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window over there nathan show us the twitch window make sure nothing else is uh being shown
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actually it doesn't matter wait hold on hold on a sec we gotta wait actually you know what hold on
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hold off on that um you said and hold on you said i did bad on the dating podcast i had like
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so many people in my inbox talking about how like okay y'all did me dirty and only fans girls will say
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i'm a 10 because so many guys buy my only fans i agree with that stop the woman could be morbidly
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obese and not attractive and still have men like saying this so in any case what do you mean i agree
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with you i'm like the majority of that shit i don't know what you're talking about that's besides
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the point uh you wrote that don't don't this is what you said i never agreed to you going into
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my dms and what i never i i told you ahead of time like i wasn't cool with you going into all my dms
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and talking about everything we've talked about right before we started when right before we started
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whoa so so just to be clear we agreed to do this debate a long time ago yeah and five minutes
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before the debate starts the messages that you sent to me on instagram they're not fair game that's
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ridiculous everything that you write i'll show you the message right no you don't no no don't pull it
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up because no don't don't show anything on fucking camera i'm not gonna show it on camera put your phone
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down you're not gonna show the messages i have the messages i know but literally today i said what
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are um i was like the prompts that you sent yeah and i sent this to you yesterday your criticisms of
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the whatever podcast you didn't send me i'll look at it right now i literally said that i literally
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sent that to you yesterday criticisms you resent me like my further points before that which were the
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exact same things that i had prompts the only reason i'm sitting here and it's not a 1v1 is because
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you explicitly said that you want to debate me and andrew i would have been happy to have this be a
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1v1 that's how most of the debates are but you i didn't know i was debating you i thought it was
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just me andrew you i could show you the message i changed my mind over and over again i i literally
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just told you less bipolar i don't know what to fucking tell you dude what happened do you want me
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to explain what happened i'm using bipolar in a not a literal sense that you're actually diagnosed
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i i realize you're not bad when you're like literally not agitated with like
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you're kind of mean sometimes when y'all y'all were mad listen let me finish this y'all were mad
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because the crazy fuckers and like jerry springer was in the room i was first chair hold on i'm not
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interesting in having i realize i'm not stop i'm not interested against you i mean stop i'm not
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interested in having a meta conversation about a podcast we did a year ago that's irrelevant
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what you wrote me since your last appearance was a direct request to debate you literally said i want
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to debate andrew and you that was to which you write okay well we're we're here now prove you
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you wrote prove that i'm just a dumb woman like you treated me on the show with a real debate prove
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that 140 iq girl as you labeled me as an idiot now here's i guess where we can get into some
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substance in terms of disagreement or debate you wrote i'm mad y'all and when you say y'all you're
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referring to me and me and andrew helped with the division in this country yeah and then in addition
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there's a lot you wrote it's it's a little you sent me a fucking novel uh and talk shit about you
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you wanted to talk shit about us profiting from the division of this nation so there's two things here
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there's the assertion that me and andrew have divided hold on stop stop stop if you want to get
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i literally asked you and through the text you said we're not going to go through any of this i
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never i literally never said that the text right now you can't show it on screen but you can read
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it you can read it so you wrote i asked if if everything i've ever said to you was fair game
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and you said no okay what are you talking i'll show you literally right now i have it on my phone
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too but i'll know why we need to get into the med because you're literally going against what we just
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talked about yesterday what are you talking about i asked what was going to be included in the debate
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the prompts and then i said plus then i asked you what would be involved in those criticisms
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then you sent my older prompts which literally had none of this in there so i never made you a promise
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that your criticisms would be excluded furthermore i just asked you about that because i didn't want
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you to go through all my messages and i never agreed to debate you you asked to debate me
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otherwise i changed it over and over again andrew comes on and does 1v1 debates you specifically asked
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for the for to debate i want here's what you wrote i want to debate andrew and you that was i'm mad
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my messages after i said i realized you're cool and i have nothing against you okay so regardless of
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that now we're i want to move away from the meta conversation this is on the this is on the table
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we're going to discuss it i don't know why you can't well i need a break because i asked you ahead
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of time what we're going to be talking about and i asked well i've blabbered a lot to you what's going
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to be included and then you sent your old prompts and and you said i sent the prompts and then i said
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plus your criticisms did i not and i said what critics i asked what criticisms i've said a lot to you
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and then let me find what it says are you uncomfortable defending your previous statements
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that because they have changed my opinion changed remember after that did i not say you did a good
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that um that i have to admit that you're pretty based uh this last episode and then i told you i
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realized what my issue uh with you was i told you then then if that is the way you act when andrew
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is way different um when he's not around on your episodes i told you that was the reason i figured
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out why i have a problem and i told you exactly why and that was like a couple weeks ago i'm trying
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to it's all andrew's fault you're right everything's your fault andrew man is objective man bad smoky
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man bad yeah i need you to take a break and okay then take a break then we'll then we'll dive right
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back into it yeah why don't you why don't you read to them that i said like after that that you're cool
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and i like i'm glad you're not being fake and i said all that shit well yeah but i think you can
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say that and then the things that you said prior to that are still no i i had those here there you
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said you need caffeine nathan can assist you with getting you but i didn't come here to talk about
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like the whatever pockets at all like yeah that was literally within oh my god it's included
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things change not yeah the new prompts the new prompts because we didn't have any prompts left
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you asked me to make prompts to send to andrew your communication style is so incoherent
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this is all throughout like a year shut up that one day it's brian i want to debate you and you're
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terrible person and the next day actually brian i'm cool with you i never said you i never said you're
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terrible person i just wanted to know what you believe in because you don't always say what you
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believe in i'm just curious why are you so defensive about like going into some of the things that you
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previously said because like i literally asked you ahead of time and opinions change and my opinion
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change okay so if it is the case i told you i was mad because of the james tallarico thing if i bring
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something up and you're like you know what brian actually changed my mind on it then i'll complete i'll
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move on why don't you go ahead and take your break though well yeah read them the last thing i said
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that you're actually pretty based as i said that a few weeks ago or something okay take a break take
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a break get some get some oh my god don't yeah that that's the
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uh we have some chats coming through here uh you know maybe i should wait till everybody's back at the
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table uh so uh andrew how you been man how's it going i've been good i'm a lot of travel
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working on some big projects for the crucible we got something extra special coming up that's top
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secret but uh i think it's going to shock a lot of people it's going to be pretty amazing
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um and that's happening at the near the end of the month glad to be back on whatever with all of you
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um i know that there's tons of people in whatever audience who don't like me and there's tons of people
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who do but even to those who hate me you missed me right you missed me admit it you missed me
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by the way a lot of that exchange just so you know these aren't attributed to positions i have that was
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for for those of you who are slow boys out in the whatever audience the crucible doesn't have this
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problem but some of you in the whatever audience do most of you don't but some of you do that's called
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an internal critique that's me critiquing the position because it's incoherent so um i know
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that what'll happen is many of you stupid people are going to be like andrew believes x when that
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has nothing to do with what just happened what just happened was an internal criticism of somebody's
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incoherent positions so that's that that's how you debate so anyway just saying pain donated 100
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dollars i ran an analysis over her body language and here's the result posture equals slouching
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confidence equals nervous engagement equals disengaged expression equals negative eye gaze
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equals averted smile equals none uh thank you very much william payne for that i must have had the
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tts threshold lower doesn't really matter i would have just read it anyways thank you for the message
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there via streamlabs.com hey uh nathan can you pull up twitch uh show us twitch here if you can
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go the window tab by the way some of the whatever regulars including the mods how you guys doing
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um i've been popping into the chat here and there and saying hello to you guys during the dating talks
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this kind of thing and i'm kind of glad to be back on the whatever stomping grounds we got some good
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debates lined up and some good dating panels so those should be good uh guys if you're watching
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over there on twitch drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one thank you guys appreciate
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it and guys thank you for the uh super chats thank you for the support guys if you're enjoying the
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stream like the video she's going to be returning here in just a moment but guys like the video
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also debate university.com we'll do a little shout out for that uh in a little bit
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200 is the can i respond to whatever that tds was i mean no we're just gonna move on so
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everyone gets to respond i mean it was below the threshold anyways okay go ahead and make
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your quick response please well yeah okay i slouched because i have rods down my entire back i'm not
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smiling because here you go smiling if it was a positive conversation i'd smile i slouched because of
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hell divers too because i'm like fucking the bugs sometimes the fascist bugs come out i don't think
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you're a fascist no no i'm saying the bugs are fascist and when they come out for the purpose of
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democracy for managed democracy we have to destroy them and so that's what we do and so i ended up
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with a slouch okay all right so you're trying to destroy democracy is that what i get what okay uh
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so again going back to this you said you wrote that i okay yeah do you want to allow me to like
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finish a sentence before you okay i i didn't quip yeah sure but i didn't agree to any of this
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what you didn't it's this i asked you ahead of time you literally didn't i asked you what was fair
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can what i'll know why you're you're doing this thing where you're you're you're attempting to delay
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uh what really should be what you want no but i asked what was fair game because i've and then you
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sent me the the prop because i was like what are my disagreements and i asked you and then you said
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and then you sent the um look it up we just talked about it i mean do you want to do you want to just
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fucking leave is that what you want to do i don't want to leave why are y'all getting so mad because
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you've been you've been attempting to delay the continuance of this conversation because i didn't agree
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to it you literally did you asked yourself how how could you possibly how can you on one hand send
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me a message that says i want to debate andrew and you and here's all the things i disagree with
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you about if you look back at it i just kept and then you can't you can't do a thing where five
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minutes before the debate starts five minutes before you literally said rewind the tape you're
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like brian when we sat down here i said i don't want to talk about that no sorry it's on the table
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no okay can you if you let me explain my side of that of what happened you don't remember all of
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the messages because you get a hundred of them a day right i do remember the messages can you stop
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with the meta conversation i know you want to delay here because it's going to make you look
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fucking terrible maybe that's why you want to delay it but in any case i think it's fair game
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it's completely fair game and perhaps you don't want to pull it up now because you maybe you're not
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prepared to even defend the words that came out of your own mouth like i said we can we can pull up
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the text um i are the first i wanted to do a two baron thank you listen this is how i will explain it
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i wanted to debate you two or even you on your own because thank you baron i noticed during the
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episodes you don't like tend to answer a lot of questions you ask people questions um and you you
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put his point of view on so my point my thing at the time was i want to learn more about you
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it had nothing to do with with i wanted to know your exact stance on things because you don't always
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give out the answers to what you actually believe in that's the only reason why i said that but then
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i said we then we talked about me being on the panel and and um that would be okay but then i said
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oh shit um then i changed it to just andrew because i have shit to say about him say uh to him is what
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i said i remember the messages because i don't get a thousand of them and and then we stopped talking
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forever and i said i want to debate um because of like the world issue with epstein and all the
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corruption um and that's why i'm here now it's for a broader message um that literally has nothing
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to do with the whatever podcast i know i'm not great at debate um he's one of the best he's very
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smart he has a lot of good talking points that my bigger mission here i don't care if i win a debate
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i'm obviously um i'm here uh to like i said at the beginning we need to just agree on making sure
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we vote for people who are as least corrupt as possible so as recently as wednesday at uh it looks
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like it's 6 p.m so this is like basically 24 hours ago uh hold on wednesday no excuse me
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wednesday at 7 36 p.m so 24 hours ago uh andrew wants to do uh prompts one three five six of the
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prompts you sent plus your previously stated criticisms and then i asked what what the ones
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that you sent and then message yeah and then what does it say after that when i asked what
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so so even if there was lacking of communication even if it even if it's from
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both our sides yeah what would be your actual objection to getting into other topics um i
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agreed to get into other topics but for example my views changed on you once i watched more episodes
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so i don't know what you're even finding i agree there are it is a lot of good that comes out of
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the podcast but there's also a lot of why are you trying to stop it ahead of time preemptively
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because i didn't agree to it like i thought let me go through the stated criticisms and perhaps some
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of them are still valid if they're not still valid and you say changed then i suppose that we don't
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have to engage there but are you just going to continue i what's the term in congress where they
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don't let anybody else talk are you just going to continue filibustering or can i actually start to
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get through it it's been 30 minutes of prattling and you delay delay delay why don't i just get
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through it that's not actually what the term is in congress but oh that that's not what a
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filibuster is but i call it a filibuster okay i mean go for it but i didn't agree to it let's go
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let's go let's go it's not that you didn't again i will repeat you said you wanted to debate me and
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andrew and then you listed all these things okay in any case my intent changed i'm just gonna get
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right into it i'm just gonna get right into it you wrote that i'm mad y'all helped with a division
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in this country uh and then you wanted to talk about how we're profiting from the division
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of this nation so i guess first how am i how is andrew uh helping with the division in the country
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um i would say that um calling like just how you called me a feminist what did you say i was
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feminist leftist hater 140 iq yeah i mean you're kind of labeling that that would be and then and
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then you only bring on certain types of i mean not only but and then you clip the majority of what
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people see are clips right that could get um that get shown and you don't they don't watch the full
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episode so so labeling is and no this isn't about you it's about him what if the label is the way he
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who andrew yeah it's the way he talks to people on the show and laughs at them and he continuously
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talks about like instead of fixing the laws that make it fucked up to that men have to to serve
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against their will like let's change the laws but he always talks about taking away women's rights to
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vote instead of like hey let's change up the fuck up fucked up law and then he said that women are
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more prone to propaganda you said something about their period and um it was like a conversation about
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women and leadership um that was a pierce morgan episode you brought like uh periods up and stuff like
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um yeah i've since the like the show i have had a lot of people in my dms and they were all
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very nice they were all very nice um but then they would say stuff like i don't think women should
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have the right to vote and i'm and i think that is making the male loneliness epidemic worse because
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if you look at the stats um statistically um more women are liberal and um yeah and you're making
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yeah the way you talk about the sexes and women do this too which i would like for it to stop um is
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mostly on his side can be very uh i would i would call it toxic um and yeah i i and so and then also
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gives guys confidence when they go in my dms trying to date me and then like tell me while they're trying
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to hang out with someone um like yeah that they want to take away my right to vote is you know
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it kind of it's that kind of takes away men who want to date you want to take that it kind of it
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kind of takes away um their game in in a sense if how would you know you've given them a lot of
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confidence to say that whoa whoa wait hold on really quick absent them who are these fucking
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base chads by the way that's the most base shit i ever heard hey baby you want to go out by the way
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you should be able to fucking vote that's fucking what what the fuck what are you guys doing what
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are you doing i'm just saying you're making your chances of getting laid hold on or in a relationship
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far less you can't fuck me if i can't vote yeah i would say that that's i would say that's a good
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idea ladies yeah she's gonna lock your legs up i don't fuck anyway that'll teach the christian
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nationalists the women are all gonna stop being skanks if you don't let them vote
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so i mean really quick just on this point really quick on this point uh absence absent that these
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people disclosing that they're viewers of the podcast how could you even come to the determination
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that it's even my viewers that are sliding into your dms trying to hit on you they said they saw me
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on the podcast like a year ago i've still get dms i've been getting dms well i mean really quick my
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position on this so you're saying some of these men are in favor of repealing the 19th yeah i mean
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my position on this is i just don't think that's a good way to to you know if you're trying to date
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someone yeah i think talking probably like if you're trying to flirt with somebody don't do that
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getting into politics but it's the show that gave them the confidence to say that is what i'm saying
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well hold on um really quick on the the question of the 19th that sounds like togetherness to me
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instead of division the bros togetherly being alone sounds like together i think we're all lonely
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lonelier sorry what were you gonna say yeah so on the topic of the 19th i mean me personally this is
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more so uh something andrew has talked about although my understanding of andrew's position on this is
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he wants to pretty much claw back the voting rights from both men and women correct uh so but as it
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relates specifically to the 19th and women's access to the vote my opinion on this has perhaps evolved
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to some degree uh currently in order for men to have access to the vote i know they have to register
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for the selective service they are subject to forced military conscription uh in a way that women are not
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this would they should be too shut up please you no no like i've i've asked you to not interrupt
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multiple times i apologize i shouldn't have done but like can you stop interrupting please
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i'm trying to get through a thought here without with you know at least go for 10 20 seconds without
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being interrupted i apologize it was rude yeah i just know what you're gonna say already she knows
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what okay tell me what i'm gonna say then you the same thing y'all say is that it's it's not fair for
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for men um that they have to do that for the right to vote um so my position i agree it's not fair
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okay but my position is as follows so perhaps i'm not quite as hard-line as andrew on this i i'm
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actually perhaps in some ways you might even label me even more of a feminist than actual feminist
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even more so than yourself perhaps i'm more of an egalitarian uh the current status quo is in order
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for men to have access to the right to vote they have to register with the selective service i believe
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the first step before revoking women's right to vote is we ought to equalize this uh requirement
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women ought to have to register with the selective service uh and then of course women should keep
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their right to vote however if we're not gonna have a serious conversation about equalizing this
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then i'm actually if if we are if we make a determination that is you know what the current
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status quo remains men have to continue registering for the selective service men exclusively have to
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be uh the exclusive subjects of military conscription then under this uh under this landscape uh and if
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it's a final determination no women will never be subject to military conscription then we should have
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a serious conversation about either repealing the 19th or perhaps we can have the power of women's vote so
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they get half the power of a man's vote that would be my position i agree for the majority of that i mean
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i i think uh i mean i don't think anyone should have to do that especially with ai technology and stuff
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coming out it's probably unnecessary but either get rid of that all together or women should have to
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do the same um yeah um okay those are my two options is that um yeah okay i don't think anyone
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should be forced to do that for the right to vote um but if we can't change that yeah give give women
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drones and shit like can i ask you a question uh i guess moving off the draft thing is uh this the
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system the current political system as is isn't it divisive inherently so if you have republicans
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and democrats isn't that already divisive two people want two groups of people want different
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things i i would also change um change it from a two-party system because the way there is a two
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yeah the two-party system kind of forces us to to be divisive when 47 percent of people consider
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themselves an independent and with all these corporate uh people that yeah the the corporate um
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uh sorry my my brain's blanking it's dyslexia thing so the um the way it is is that most of us are
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being forced to vote for people like we don't even really like um due to like the funding issues and
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who gets the media time literally everything i've been talking about um i didn't want to vote for
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biden um a lot of never trumpers voted for trump and they didn't like him so i i would change um
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thomas bassey talks a lot about this um uh just the entire system is set up for only two parties and
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it kind of forces people to pick shitty candidates and pick a side and if both sides suck you choose the
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less sucky one and we're all kind of stuck in this like this fucked up yeah it's a fucked up system
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the way we have it right now okay you also wrote moving on to the rest of your notes uh you wrote
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i just want to tell you you're a little bitch little bitch you did write that no little bitch is it i
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wasn't actually can you repeat it exactly what i want how i said it this is your quote i just want
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to tell you you're a little bitch bitch little bitch it's not an actual and i didn't bitch yeah b-i-t-c-h
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can i see that i don't think i said those words you can look it up after the show i'm not
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inventing i said don't be a little bitch is what i said don't be a little l-i-l-b-i-c-h
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it wasn't no you oh my god bro i know what i said we're getting in the weeds i know what i said
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don't change my words i mean do you want me to take a screenshot okay tell you what do you have
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any cash on you if i take a screenshot of it dollar how about this you have to venmo did i say don't be a
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little bitch do you want to do a bet no wait i'm trying i think you might have been right did i
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say don't be a little bitch i said don't be a little l-i-l-b-i-l-b-i-c-h that mean that's not a
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real insult don't be a little bitch when someone you said i called you a bitch are we debating about
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lil versus little and i said b-i-c-h that's not the the substance of what i'm about to get into
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okay but i'm just saying i never called you name you literally did the only name i called you
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yeah you're don't i have it in front of me i didn't change your words wait are you do you
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want to shake hands a thousand dollars what are the exact same what is little bitch don't but so
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what's the start little bitch she's arguing about no i'm asking over a little bit what are the what's
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the first part of that i you literally i said don't be a but i'm asking what was the sentence
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do you want me to repeat it again i just want to tell you you're a little bitch little bitch not
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little bitch that's what you wrote anyways that's not i see it i don't remember that you're getting
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bogged down here i'm moving on to the next thing oh i do remember that you oh my god you're jesus
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dude can you like hold stop stop i don't remember i you you wrote i used to think you were okay and
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sort of nice can you shut up please can you stop interrupting you wrote i used to think you were
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okay and sort of nice but you're fake af and hide behind your mentally ill excuse me mentally ill
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minions my viewers and mystery okay um okay so how am i fake because this was also about the james
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tallarico thing i was talking about how like fucked up the charlie kirk thing was and how i wanted to
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come here to talk about like real issues um and i i was like spilling my heart about like how fucked up
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shit's gotten and in society and um and i i was mad about like you telling me to find people i found
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worthy and i kept bringing up james tallarico which would be an awesome debate like it would be great
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um and then you just keep ignoring me so i talk about all these issues that i think are more
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important how would that make me fake though what because like i thought that you didn't want to
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confront the actual issues because like yeah because i i spilled my heart out about like how
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corrupt the government is and um i mean okay and how i i wanted i had a message of because he was
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talking about how like the left is murderous and all this stuff and i was upset about
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majority of okay i was upset about reactions on on both sides um so yeah i was and then i wanted to
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talk about it and i also brought up james tallarico wait can i ask you a question if i want and i wait
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wait stop stop so um we get a lot of requests for people who want to come on the show uh a lot of
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requests and you've already been on twice and again i'm not trying to say this to be insulting
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your previous performances were frankly lackluster i almost i already said this i kind of already
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regret having booked this already andrew the superstar that he is uh but a little beneath him
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i apologize andrew in advance i've seen your other debates well okay anyways with who the girls
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literally have nothing to say and just repeat stupid shit on the left with no thought whatsoever i'm
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not saying this to like intentionally be insulting you were kind of low priority in terms of getting
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you back on the show that's cool oh but in any case i'm not sure how that'd be fake it'd be like
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i guess if if i is joe rogan like if i reach out to joe rogan and he's not responding to me does that
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make him fake no what was because i'm trying to get on his podcast fake is is um that i didn't i didn't
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think you wanted to talk about real issues i was saying this is my purpose for being here and i kept
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saying james tallarico um okay and i was mad that i felt like i had real things to say that are bigger
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than culture issues to talk about well i mean i feel like you're kind of using you were name dropping
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james as an effort to i'm telling you why i was mad shoehorn yourself into a debate but like i reached
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out that email you sent me of his campaign manager i reached out no response so it seems like i told you
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ahead of time that it's gonna take a while your relation or connection to james tallarico is a bit
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dubious at this point i kind of get the impression that it was just uh you actually have no connection
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to him and his perhaps interest in uh debate is a bit with andrew wilson perhaps a bit dubious but
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in any case why did i have the direct contact to the person no response no i told you ahead of time
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that it's just anyways and look at his travels listen when i when i contacted y'all james was not
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mainstream in like a few weeks away from um a uh yeah the the voting has already started um so
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months and months and months ago when i started volunteering for james i kept i said i told you hey
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i i who the fuck is james tallarico now everybody's gonna look him up i don't know who the fuck he is
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he's a christian democrat who's running for the oh yeah absolutely i'll debate with any christian
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and even on joe when he was on joe rogan i sent you the link of showing the comments where everyone
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was saying that that you need to debate him i sent you his thing i think that yeah everybody yeah
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if he's a christian democrat he can't win a debate it's not possible he's well he's pretty
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good at it i guess not possible so yeah i mean i was so yeah he might not be responding now but
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he's literally exploded through media and is traveling around right now i don't know how me
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i was trying to get it him to come months and months ago overlooking your messages out of the sea of
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messages that i do have i'll know that's fake but because i'm not gonna focus don't worry i'm not
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i'm just okay but it's because i i wanted to bring a real opponent to to debate him instead of
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these young andrew has gone up against some of the best andrew's debated some of the best
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debaters out there you asked me you said you even said you pay me to find people who i thought were
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worthy to bring on the show and i find like the best person you sent me two people and then one of
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them was no no people backed out um but i've probably like five different times i brought up
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james tallarico you you yeah you sense like his name and no i showed you his joe rogan episode i
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and and i showed you all the comments where everyone was saying that they need to bet debate tell you
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what you got the connection i'd be happy to host a 1v1 between andrew and christian democrats aren't
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going to debate with him but he's he's done debates like that no i'm very confident like
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those politicians already said those politicians only want to take the media that's going to paint
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them in a favorable light he went on fox he's gone on fox and shit easy peasy compared to andrew
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andrew wilson will demolish crush crush he if he was he's literally like a sermon he literally went
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to school like starting the bible like andrew would demolish yeah they do it all the time that you
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know how many times i get these these faux christians who come in and they have these
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phony ass theology degrees cracks me up uh i went to seminary school to find liberal jesus yeah i was
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mostly irritated that literally but the thing is it's like look i don't know this guy to be totally fair
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yeah i never even heard of him before for all i know he's one of the best debaters on planet earth
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right i got nothing against this guy i'm happy to debate with him if he's a christian democrat
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those are my favorite so i'm happy to do it i got no i got no dog in this fight so basically i was
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just upset that like i felt like you only wanted to bring people in that um yeah uh i was talking
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about corruption on both sides and okay i was talking yeah all right it was mostly like i thought you
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were being fake that's crazy giovanni jade you donated two hundred dollars sounds right
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talarico is a disgusting hippie jesus heretic who wears our faith like a skin suit so you people
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who despise christianity will clap like seals he will never debate anyone with an ounce of theology
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anyways jesus kind of was a hippie giovanni really good to see you uh thank you for the message that
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take paul out of it and yeah you mean take the pinnacle part of the gospel out of it and then he
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will be as long as we just take out the parts that you don't like no i mean we can compare uh
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if you let me take my notes out what he said that just i'm kind of just trying to rapid fire through
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these things okay and then we can get back to some of the prompts uh you also in terms of your
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criticisms levied andrew by the way andrew's been a guest on the dating talks very frequently he's our
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most reoccurring guests uh and thank you whatever for having me by the way to do that i agree thank you
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for having me but one of the criticism criticisms levied was your whole show's premise is about
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the male lonely loneliness epidemic but you're spewing garbage that makes women repulsed by men
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ensuring all your incel homeboys never get laid uh so really quick just my response to that and then
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i'll let you respond uh so you wrote that the whole show the dating talk the whole show's premise is
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about the male loneliness epidemic uh this is just simply false the male loneliness excuse me the male
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loneliness epidemic is not the premise of the show it's a broad dating discussion show um i don't even
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really talk about the male loneliness epidemic it's maybe come up like that that actual term
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that actual term uh has maybe come up two three times on the show it's not a central focus of the
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conversations that are had on the show so your premise is flawed your premise is erroneous the
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premise of the whatever uh the dating i know it's a dating it's not the about the male loneliness
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loneliness epidemic i should have broadened it but yeah it it's a total straw man it doesn't it doesn't
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change the fact that your show makes people more more repulsive each other my my show makes people
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more repulsed yeah the yeah when people are coming into my dms the way that it's because of the way
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people spoke to me in the dms about the rights to vote and all of that and um when you're showcasing
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people who are um young and dumb um you give the impression like you i'm not young but thank you
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how old are you 38 well i'll take back the young part so what can you tell me what makes me dumb i'm
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not good at debate but what have i i agree with the majority of what you say so what makes me dumb
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well let's let's investigate your claim first before i have to give an accounting of what would
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make you dumb but you're claiming i bring on these young and dumb women um how how's that
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i don't understand how that's because related yeah because you give an image that um we're all asking
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for people to make a million dollars and that i don't say that people i'm giving a broad of what how
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people perceive it that everybody's entitled i'm entitled okay if i perceived you as a dinosaur is
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that correct is that true in your head okay but so is it possible that somebody could have a false
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perception yeah that's okay you want i get you're doing some good things with that but i think if
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you're doing some good things about getting rid of people's perceptions on yeah feminism did go too far
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you are doing some good things um to get rid of some people's perceptions but i think if you wanted
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to be fair on it um you would have a broader sense of people even maybe bringing young like trump
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supporters and testing them out to see what if they know how many branches of government they are
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there are and then let me get back i don't want your gish uh you're you're doing a gish gallop so
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basically i would like an attempt to maybe we can do one by one yeah i was going to get back to the
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point because if you give me a bullet like 10 things yeah it's hard for me so i'd like to do
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one by one so okay you're saying that that there's a lacking of diversity in terms of the guests that
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we have on the panel you're saying brian you bring on a very narrow range a very narrow type of women
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onto the show that isn't representative of you know there's these really intelligent women out there
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or there's women on the left and by the way uh the panels are frequently tend to be
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pretty a little split politically you'll have women who are liberal women who are moderate you'll
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have women who are right wing you'll have women who are conservatives so this idea that i'm for
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example only bringing on liberal women is not true and by the way liberal women and conservative
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women can equally get the smoke because a lot of these conservative women they're covert feminists
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they're actually feminists and uh you know sarah stock who we had on the show who recently had
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this who was most people would have said based off of her political takes was like super right wing
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like far right wing uh and she's a total fuck she's basically lauren southern yeah i've total grifter
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yeah total trad fraud there's a lot of them out there right so this idea that you know you can't
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i'm not levying this criticisms toward uh conservative women is completely no i didn't say
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conservative women can get the smoke too i didn't honestly some way hold on really quick final thing
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and i'll pass it back to you i think some of these conservative women you know i sometimes respect the
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of girls the the hoes they're real the liberal women because in some ways they tell the truth
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exactly at least they take ownership of being whores i totally whereas some of these conservative
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chicks the trad the fake trads they fucking lie they're sarah stock they're claiming to be trad but
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they're not they're i'm a virgin but they're not some of these a lot of these girls who come on
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claiming they're conservative trad it's a lie i'm a virgin i by the way i make it a habit not to expose
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people but i'll get dms from some guy that they were smashing the week before so they can all get the
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smoke it's not i'm not just picking on the liberal women but we have a we have a vast diversity of
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guests they're young they're old we've had women who are 18 all the way to in their 70s we've had
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women who are in their 20s 30s 40s 50s 60s come on the show we've had women aren't you close to 40
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yeah she's 38 we've had women who are uh have bachelor's degrees master's degrees phds we've had
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doctors we have had lawyers we have had professional women and yes we've had like women who are sex
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workers we've had only fans girls on we've had women who've dropped out of college dropped out of
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high school even so we've had a vast diversity of guests in terms of their age in terms of their
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profession their political leaning their educational achievement by the way i'm not some intellectual
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titan here i dropped out of community college i used to do silly prank videos i'm not i wasn't
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schooled i don't have a philosophical foundation for my uh when i when i engage in these debates
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sometimes i get smoked i get i'm on the back foot sometimes same so this idea that i'm some
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intellectual titan bullying these uneducated women actually the truth is the majority of our guests
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on average have higher educational achievement than me the college dropout look i anyways that wasn't
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really about the really it's it's kind of it's mostly it's not about any of that it's i realize
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my issues is when he's on this show and the way he talks to people doesn't like you andrew i i do like
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you i just don't like the way you speak to people you've spoken to you've spoken to me worse today than
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i've spoken to you no i mean you're being great it's it's every now and then you'll go it's yeah you'll
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say some fucked up shit when people do horrible things to me and i respond and hang on hang on hang
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on let me defend myself here for a second right what it seems to me is that the most common complaint
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that i hear is that i don't allow myself to get bullied attacked my wife to get attacked my family
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members to get attacked and doxxed and i'm not a passive bitch when that happens that seems to
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actually be what all those criticisms tend to reduce to give me an example of when it is that i
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was way out of line where the other person wasn't doing everything in their power to be agitating
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or to come after me first agitating what do you mean by did they call you something messed up first
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or did you just call them whores and talking about i first of all first of all when i call a woman
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a whore or prostitute it's because she's a whore or a prostitute do you like do you recognize the
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distinction it's like um i get what you're saying so if you're not a prostitute charlie for just
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stating a fact so oh what was the fact that she had your wife has um three baby daddies which is not
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meant to be an insult was it it's not an insult it's not well help me out here it's not an insult i'm just
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wondering if you're married to a man and you have his children is he your baby daddy
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um i mean technically that's what you consider a baby daddy so every so every couple out there
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every married couple all of their wives have baby daddy i mean technically so then i guess my response
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in the future should just be well so what you got a baby daddy does that even make sense i mean that
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sounds i don't think she meant it as an insult at all of course she did not only that her prescription
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what honestly and the reason that it got so uh brutal back and forth was because she basically
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wanted me to kill my kids i saw the episode she didn't want you to yeah she she did twisting what
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happened she was making a dig at you because she said it'd be better to have a border she said it
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would be better for me to kill my kids yeah from my perspective it looked like she was taking a dig
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at like having to live with you and then rachel called her smacked her around which was hilarious
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the whole point was is like fine if you women want to make digs at my wife do it to my wife because
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watching her completely dismantle and destroy your worldviews is one of the funnest things that anybody
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has ever seen on planet earth and the reason women tend to attack me through her is because
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they're petrified of her for good reason your wife is awesome i'm just saying you just took it as an
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insult and she didn't really say anything insulting bullshit that's lies and bullshit and reframing and
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not only that i didn't let's just let me just cede the ground that one time let's just assume for a
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second one time after a six-hour debate with a bad faith interlocutor who was so stupid the thing she
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had a degree in i still smoked her on oh i saw that okay the thing she had a degree in that she
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studied her whole life i still beat her on that topic too just having a passive knowledge of it
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okay let's just assume for a second that one time i lost control briefly so what done thousands of
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debates i mean how many debates have you done this one yeah so the thing is is like and you haven't
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exactly kept your cool you haven't exactly been cool calm and collected you haven't exactly uh balanced
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the room you haven't exactly had the best showing and so the thing is is it's like even if it's the
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case that i were to grant this that out of six hours of completely decimating this person's worldview
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she managed to get in 15 seconds of a dunk that liberals went crazy over who were homosexuals mostly by
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the way um the fact of the matter is is like so what anybody else who's in my shoes right they just
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get decimated by these people over and over and over and over and over again they can't keep their
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cool they can't stay calm they can't stay collected case in point what do you mean like yeah my brain
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gets foggy and i lose track of what i'm saying but i haven't been mad i've stuck up for our the
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conversation that we had the only time i got annoyed was when he went against the terms of what
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we agreed to oh so you got annoyed um yeah i wasn't mean was i mean to him how could you be
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annoyed i wasn't when you felt like somebody was being bad faith and misrepresenting something
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hang on i didn't what are you saying that when you felt like somebody was being misrepresentative of
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you i stuck up for myself in a nice manner in a nice polite manner every time i do something wrong
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i apologize i thank you for having me on the show well now go do 3 000 more of these and we'll see if
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you ever lose control in one but the thing is it's funny is it's like yeah of course people are
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going to attack me viciously and occasionally they're going to get some a vicious attack back
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but generally speaking i match energy i think that sometimes your attacks go a lot like what
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the others i mean i'd have to we look yeah exactly you have no examples are your yawns genuine by the
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way i'm almost yawning like every single second what i don't know you know how somebody could
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yawn like you know when you like yeah it keeps almost happening i know what a yawn is but sometimes
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you can yawn like in a oh way to be okay do i seem like i'm trying to be rude to anybody
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well yeah but that aside well if it's a fake yawn if it's a fake yawn i just i just can look i just
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consider it i just consider it trolling like i don't even care but the thing is is like um
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the the reason that i always bring this up is because there's all there's just never any good
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examples ever most of the time that uh women are trying to tone police me it's because they're
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actually saying that i just need to be passive i'm not allowed to defend myself i'm not allowed
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to defend my family that would be jesus's way i mean defend yourself but jesus's way
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that's not what didn't jesus like throw the table over that was in the church uh for taking money
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um that wasn't uh and during yeah he didn't call everybody yeah can i ask you a question
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um are you aware that at the time of jesus christ that if you made a personal insult towards somebody
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they would often kill you yeah did jesus call people vipers yeah and that's a that's a killable offense
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jesus didn't say that though that's like the old testament no what how could jesus say that in
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the old testament show me where without paul yeah let's take paul sure did he say that did he say to
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kill them kill what so what do you say he did he say yeah you said it was a uh no it is so
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insulting you would get killed for saying it to somebody yeah people people like you you live in
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what's called presentism you see in in common parlance a lot of the words that we consider to
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be insulting are moderate insults ultimately they're moderate insults like you're a stupid
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bitch you're an idiot you're tarted blah blah blah blah blah blah blah those aren't things people
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generally kill each other over in the time of christ they did they would kill you for insulting
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them and slighting their honor sliding their wife and oftentimes the law would back them up on this
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and so the thing is is like when jesus would say something like that right that caused so much
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insult as to cause a person to respond by killing them and so this idea that tards have that for some
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reason jesus who called uh people whitewashed tombs killable offense called them vipers killable
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offense he said that they were hypocrites killable offense and by the way they ended up they did end up
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killing him by the way they did they crucified him and so the thing is is it's like this is is what's
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called tard theology what happens is a bunch of people get got together and decided that jesus was
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a tree hugging hippie when in fact when you're really speaking truth to power it's the most insulting
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thing on planet earth to the powerful and so what ends up happening is uh there's this great conflation
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which happens that uh jesus was all about hugs and kisses well his words were like except when he
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was calling people broods of vipers can you look that up sure look it up it's in matthew yeah uh no not
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calling people vipers but he said something that did he say it was a killable offense no no no andrew's
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saying that back then uh it was but jesus didn't say that yes he did no no no no he was insulting
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people he was insulting them by calling them broods of vipers by calling them whitewashed tombs
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these were things which were so insulting people would kill you over them so don't tell me jesus
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didn't insult people he gave them the ultimate insults so insulting that it was a killable offense
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in his time i think saying vipers is talking about people doing like yeah eve like evil things
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but no i i do i do understand it was a killable offense but when you insult a person do you generally
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expect that they're going to kill you no i get exactly what you're saying i just don't think
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yeah jesus didn't say he was going to kill people no that that's not what the interest but i know i know
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what you're saying i get that what's the time i get what you're saying contention is not that jesus
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said that that's a killable offense that it was at the time i get it but those are two separate
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things so what there's what jesus said and there's the uh social cultural zeitgeist of thousands of
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years ago yeah so why are you calling but jesus actually did say woke and even though it was a
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different time period first of all woke means infantilization okay so that was a whole different
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time period why are you using that for modern times like it just doesn't make sense if if you
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can agree during the time period things were different and the bible was written because we
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have context we have context and not only do we have context but i have church history
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which which has an apostolic succession which goes all the way back to the time of christ
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to the original apostles which would include paul i mean he wasn't technically an original apostle was
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he well okay oh sorry sorry did i'm sorry were you aware that paul was uh hung out with jesus's
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apostles yeah and a lot of them wait i'm not i just want to make sure i didn't i wasn't finished
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answering um yeah and a lot of them were very skeptical skeptical which ones um james
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james nope yes he was look it up can you look that up no what do you want they all accepted
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they were all they all accepted eventually they accepted and calling him a brother of of christ or
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or whatever but um did james he was a bishop in effort what are you talking about paul was the
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greatest evangelist of all time paul set it set up timothy as a bishop paul was in ephesus paul was
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in corinth he and literally apostles backed his place a few of them we know we can look in acts you
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can look in acts at the very first stop you can look in acts in the very first ecumenical council
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paul was looked to for leadership in fact so the thing is for that time period for uh for you have
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no clue what you're talking about you're just arguing to argue we're getting i'm not i'm not
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arguing anything we're getting so off topic he's asking me questions let me just bring it back then
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um yeah i know you reject paul yeah i reject paul but even like james and the the original thing was
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your your contention is essentially jesus was this like hippie tree hugger that never was harsh or i
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didn't see and andrew's saying well actually there's this example where jesus said you brew the vipers
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and so that's the origination i guess moving it on to the back to this but what people don't
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moving it on moving it on hold on i'm not allowed to make my last point well i mean make it we're supposed
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to follow what jesus told us to do you don't know anything jesus told us to do literally wait are
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you christian i actually want to hear one thing that you think jesus told us to do love god love
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your neighbors uh are you follow the love god love your neighbors follow the commandments uh i call
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myself a follower of the way which means uh the origin before uh the the bible sometimes before the
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listen let me explain what's the denomination of the church you go to protestant okay i don't have
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one in protestant it's not a denomination it's an allocation yeah okay i've been to so many a
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thousand different types of churches i don't call myself a christian i go to church for the community
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and love of god so you don't even follow christ i follow christ it's a different a follower of the
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way is the uh she just tells you the way um which um is following the commandments yeah that's
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the 70s hippie shit yeah i remember i remember reading the way yeah so i've tried to become more
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bring myself more towards was he hot was he god no no jesus he was a prophet he's a prophet yeah okay
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so he's not god no so you deny the divinity of christ
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can you stop i'm so sorry i i'm a very do you deny the divinity of christ um he is divine no i don't
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how is he divine if he's just a prophet i mean he he's just as divine as like buddha or i mean i think
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it's all the same god with a different dialect and different cultures i don't you're spiritual
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so it's monism i mean sort of i mean not sort of it just is right so all different denominations
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have truth no i wouldn't say all i just i believe what i believe i also believe in like reincarnation
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i don't fit whatever like don't make fun i'm not making fun of y'all for your beliefs well no the
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thing is is like i just i'm not gonna here's the thing like my position i don't get or take lectures
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from non-christians on christianity because they don't know what the fuck they're ever talking
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about you don't own jesus um christianity was created after he passed away and people are
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interpreting in different ways um i follow what he said and i've looked into the history of all of it
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um you have huh yeah all right well let's can you just tell me what happened in acts
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yeah okay what happened in acts yeah what happened just tell me you've researched it all
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what happened in acts well she wants to look it up on her why do you need to look it up i thought
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she researched it can i can i yeah i don't i don't think i think it's almost more of a rhetorical
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question in the sense that i know i know it's a rhetorical question i don't think he actually has
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an interest but can i just give you the list of what policy i compared to jesus and how i yeah oh
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you're gonna look at the pauline the pauline contradictions the supposed pauline contradictions
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yeah really that's what you came equipped with that's what you came equipped with was the supposed
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pauline contradictions really okay well you can go through them if you want you can't even tell me
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what happened in acts in acts there was like the on the hill that's um got me man that's why i don't
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ever listen to non-christians about christianity well i shouldn't you listen to shouldn't you listen
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to jesus above anything else instead of paul well here's the thing that's funny it's like um did
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jesus himself write anything nope so who am i listening to he told he told us exactly what to do
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and his disciples and who becomes a disciple did he appear to his disciples disciples need witness
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did he appear to his disciples post-death yeah okay and is that true yeah okay great then why
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couldn't he appear to paul um i think that paul um that's not my question my question is why
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couldn't he appear to paul if he appeared to his other disciples why not because he wasn't a disciple
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why couldn't he appear to paul he could okay so then he could right paul's on the road to damascus
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right jesus makes an appearance is that correct um if you think it's jesus okay and then this is
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verified by other apostles who tested him they had power given to them by christ didn't they
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because he went to each of them post-death but you know better what do they know they were just
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his apostles they first of all i they were still human and i think paul is a test because jesus warned
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us ahead of time that there would be fake apostles and he told us exactly
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he warned us in several different statements that there would be heresies and fake apostles
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um and even committed people what was paul's name paulos and saul was the original and and what did
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he do do you remember murdered a bunch of christians what did he what do you mean for work job yeah
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yeah i don't know that you don't know you don't know anything about the very i just told you his
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name is you don't know what do you mean i don't you don't i don't know it all you don't know anything
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about the context of the very thing it is that you're talking about which is why i never listened
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to lectures about christianity you have to know what someone did for a living checkmate you have
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to know what someone did it's very important especially especially with paul to see how paul's
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beginnings right changed into something far more humble when he became a tent maker afterwards
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and this is why in fact they tried to drive paul out what you're talking about there were there were
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fake apostles they were called super apostles and they tried to drive paul out that's what happened
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and he had to go and put a stop to that that literally happened and the thing that's so funny
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is like you don't know any of that you don't know any of the history you don't know what happened with
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the cult of artemis you don't know what happened with any of the pauline doctrine none of you ever
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do you just go paul said mean shit that i don't like that means that jesus is not a hippie
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to what what jesus said i i don't think paul meant bad but like i don't does that mean everything
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he ever says it's gonna be i gotta redirect the conversation i'm just saying i got redirected
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yeah i'm just saying that if it goes against what jesus christ told us and the way he said you don't
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even know what jesus christ told us so i did you don't know anything about the bible just stop it's
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embarrassing i think you're a little bit out of the wheelhouse just a teeny bit andrew's a christian
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andrew's an orthodox christian he's this is why i wanted you to debate jams taller ago but i i don't
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think you have a strong theological foundation like an understanding i'm i'm just telling you
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effectively participate in this i'm a red liner if you follow red line christianity you read what
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jesus said you believe in reincarnation and jesus jesus believes in red line christianity is i don't
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know what that is to be honest it's it highlights what jesus actually said and comparing it to what's
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actually in the bible red line is way different than modern christianity well let me ask you a
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question about what jesus said just last question what does john 1 1 say i don't have all this
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memorized no this is important because you do you deny the divinity of christ what's john 1 1 say
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does john 1 1 say that jesus christ is the word and in the beginning and in the beginning there was
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the word and who was the word with who was the word with in the beginning i don't know the word was
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with god and who was hang on and who was the word jesus no the word was god the word was god in the
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beginning there was the word and the word was with god and the word was god yeah he's speaking from
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yeah he's jesus is the word he is the word and he is in the word is god then what is jesus by the
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transitive properties we all have and hang on i'm going to ask the question i want the answer
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if it's the case that jesus is the word and the word is god by the transitive properties of this
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statement what would that make jesus he's speaking from yeah he he has god's message to to send like
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no no no no he never said he was jesus is the word he's speaking god's words john he said okay first
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i don't understand this is crazy dude just i i haven't slept well i'm not just just explain it
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to me today to do the debate he flew in today he's his nicotine i told you that i'm not in a bible
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expert well then why just let me move it on then i want to move it on i'm trying to move it on but
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you want you want to get the final word okay all right did you i never claimed to be i never
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claimed to be a biblical scholar look i'm not trying to say you're a biblical scholar
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right i wouldn't have even brought it here that's been established the problem the problem comes i'm
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not a biblical scholar okay but the problem comes in i don't have it memorized the problem comes in i
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don't have look i'm not asking you to memorize anything what i'm saying to you is this the reason
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that i don't listen to heresychristian.com and heresy christians who try to tell me what jesus would do
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in any given situation use that as their baseline for criticism is because they don't know fucking
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anything about what they're talking about they don't know anything about the new testament they
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don't know how it was put together why it was put together they don't know anything they hang on
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because they don't know anything i don't listen to their criticisms using that as the foundation
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for criticism if you had used something else we would perhaps be getting into that but you didn't
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you said i'm going to criticize you for the baseline of the bible that you don't know anything
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about i've i actually just because i don't have it memorized andrew had the final word on that okay
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let me let me finish up some more of this and hopefully we can get to something more um okay
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really quick touching on this very briefly uh again going back to the premise of my show
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loneliness male loneliness epidemic uh you you your position as my viewer base is incels there there are
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incels who can't get laid just curious uh i think it is fair to ask when is the last time that you got
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laid first of all i don't think the majority of you are incels and i said that because when you think
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the majority of my audience is incel losers basically who never get laid which the people who are
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saying rude shit in their comments who watch you religiously and what if they're just tell tell
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people that women that they shouldn't be able to have the right to vote while they're trying to
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bang them at the same time i think that would kind of put them in the incel category hold on words
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need to have meaning incel stands for involuntarily celibate when they're becoming an incel if they're
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coming at women like that but why should we even believe that that's true what do you mean why should
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we believe that there's men in your dms who are trying to date you and telling you yeah
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okay i want to see the actual context yeah i do i do want to see the actual context behind
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hey i want to date you and take your right to vote away i want the context there
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by the way i i took a poll of my audience and they're just don't care they're definitely not
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in so they're just i don't think they're insults i'm i'm saying when you go about things a certain
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way and make things mainstream that aren't and they're trying to date you and they're saying
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shit like that then i'm kind of narrowing the dating scene because a handful of men by the way
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my live streams collect i'm not talking about everybody can you stop interrupting please can
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can you stop okay so even if it's true that a handful of men sent you dms and it originated from
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my audience the total viewership just for the live streams you know typically after 30 days we receive
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about 200 000 views total on my live streams so let's even say a dozen people dms you i don't
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think that that would be representative of the viewer base not even factoring in the hundreds of millions
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of monthly views we get across our clips uh so i i mean i i don't understand i know i'm talking about
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a certain type that um maybe clings on to that a little bit too seriously um i don't think the
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majority of them are like that okay all right well i'll know why it's interesting you made a criticism
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multiple times throughout the show about labeling yet in your messages to me you wanted to label my
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viewers as incels and that my show uh that that i or perhaps andrew were spewing garbage that makes
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women repulsed by men yeah uh i was talking about exactly what i was going on in my dating life with
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it right but people who dm you wouldn't necessarily be represented i just said that the majority of them
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are great nice people i'll pass on that um i i still talk to i still talk to a lot of them i'm
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hanging out with one of them in the next month you're so then it sounds like it's a very effective
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dating strategy i told it was just as friends i told him i told him well it's just just as friends
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just as yeah i know i straight up told you're saying uh somebody in the whatever audience is having a
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one-on-one rendezvous with you w as just friends there there it is yeah i straight upset i straight
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up told him like if we do hang out like legit like it's just friends yeah he's coming into town and i
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said okay cool i mean my advice to you is i mean everybody who watches my shows uh is a um an incel
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who's getting dazed why would i still be talking to these dudes if i thought they were like bad people
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like like i don't know have you tried the majority of them bumble maybe you could go out it's so
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horrible no don't you live in austin aren't there a bunch i don't even date i told them you should
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go to an anti-ice protest and you can try to find a guy there i don't give a shit about it i'm not
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trying to find a guy by the way just to be clear sometimes i'm not trying to find a dude okay but
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sometimes you don't have to respond to like everything i say but anyways um okay moving off of the
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incel thing i do it to be fair uh are some just i don't think you have admit sure sure that's who i was
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talking about any evidence as to the makeup of my audience i think that there's there's feminists
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who have incels in their chat so it's when i actually probably probably more yeah can i respond
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it's when i watch like it live and you see the chats coming in it's it's wait wait wait wait wait
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really quick though so youtube comments twitch or well i'll just stick to youtube youtube comments
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youtube live chat even prior to me ever starting the whatever podcast you could you could go watch a
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baking video and the youtube comments uh youtube has a reputation the comment section for being like
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fucking awful even for content that is not perhaps as controversial as the whatever podcast you could
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like you know well you see a gaming video the comments are like insane you you could look at any
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video and the comment section is pretty wild live chat even more wild so i don't think that's
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representative of the whatever podcast necessarily that's who i'm talking about that's just the the
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climate online youtube comments and let's face it that shit's fun like half that shit's fun for
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people to go like people like to go and they like to vent they like to talk their little shit in
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comments anonymously yeah because it's fun and here's the thing i don't think you're above that
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i bet you've been in youtube comments and talked your little shit before she called me a bitch a
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little bitch no little bitch by the way you said some very mean things about andrew which i'm holding
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for a little bit but i guess moving on here in any case then later i undid my response and said okay
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okay we'll get to it uh you don't have any evidence as to the makeup of my audience um i prefer you debate
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the actual points not like do a caricature of what you think my audience is you don't have to
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hey you don't have to respond to everything it's okay it's okay i'm moving it on uh you know it's
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funny because a lot of the a lot of the whatever like if you're talking about hardcore fans versus
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like random viewers things like this i would tear it so i would always say you're not going to monolith
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an entire audience of hundreds of thousands because that's the audience base right some of them are in
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the live chat probably before this is done maybe close to 70 80 000 who come through the live chat
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um and then you have people who just watch videos and like it's it's all over the place so
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you would have to tear it but i've been in the whatever discord and i've been where like the fans
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hang out and stuff like that a lot of them are married right and surprisingly there's a lot of women
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a lot of women who are like discord who are like we really you know they they consider women watch
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the show because they consider it a human interest piece they're watching for totally different reasons
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i watch the show i love the show yeah of course because because you're interested in probably what
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makes people tick what makes you tick what makes you think like you think no you you all have a lot
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of good views i just uh the sometimes am i am i an incel do you think i'm no no yes not at all
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no i'm talking about that one type of people that that dm it's kind of like the like that's a great
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modern daily so at first it's brian your audience they're all your incel homeboys oh no actually it's
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just like the dozen men who dm'd me if if i got into detail if i got into detail if i got into detail
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is he gonna crack does he is he gonna crack you think or crack about what never mind um sorry
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anyways he's gonna frame what is this dude's gonna show up and he's gonna frame mark he's gonna incel
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max totally um yeah i just don't think it's good for society for us to literally make fun of each
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other all the time and it's it's not everyone on the show you called me that's a very feminine view
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too by the way what just the the idea of like everybody should be nice to each other we should
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all really rally around the things we agree on versus what we disagree on things like that you
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know men don't actually think that way very often uh oftentimes in fact the the way that men get along
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best is when they're roasting each other when they're hard on each other roast each other when
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they're hang on when they're awful to each other they don't even actually consider a lot of that
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to be anything other than what's considered pure bonding and it's a very feminine view uh and women
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have it all the time that men need to act like women and part of the whole coming together thing
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and this type of stuff uh inside of a political frame usually comes from a feminine view men seem
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to be much more understanding of the fact that there's going to be political tribalism and that
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it's a fight for dominance and power that's what politics actually is it's not actually about coming
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together at all it's about imposing your views on society brian and i i hang out with mostly
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dudes a lot of the time um calling you that doesn't make you one though that
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doesn't make you wait hold on moving it on uh it wasn't like a serious like your evil
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message like no well hold on we'll get into that what garbage am i spewing
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um i don't think you're spewing garbage it's more of that you wrote it
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you said i was spewing garbage oh it's andrew who spews the garbage i've told multiple times that
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it's that's fair i've never said you have things yeah
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you you um you wrote here the whole show's premise blah blah blah you're but you're spewing
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garbage that makes women repulsed by men the garbage it would be stuff like the voting him
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like yeah and the things he says that women find repulsive um it's not anything you say
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your views i would say are very based it's sometimes the way he goes about things that
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make women repulsed 19th i guess so um is there a man is indeed bad is there anything besides the
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voting that you would consider spewing garbage um yeah i talk the stuff about propaganda
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women being more um easily propaganda if there was a study that actually demonstrated this would
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i looked it up there i haven't seen anything oh well but there is i've i've looked up all of this
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is there what one study andrew what is the no there's there's actually a lot i didn't find anything
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you i'll demonstrate it to you very simply actually so can i ask you a question out of men and women who
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do you think are the largest retail consumers women and so if you have a corporation you're
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running advertisements for a product if it was the case that men responded better to the
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advertisements than women who would you tailor the ads for men but they're doing that and who do they
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tailor no no in fact because it is the case that women are so much easy it's so much easier to make
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women buy than it is to make men buy because they're much easier to propagandize by the way
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there are tons and tons of studies about this you can go to rachel wilson my wife's substack
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and she cites a lot of this i don't remember what the article was called but i'm sure that she can dm
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brian and we can get it over to you but she's talked about especially uh consumer the consumer
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idealism and the fact that women are specifically targeted by corporations and things like this because
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it's so easy to sell them shit because of their emotional responses to advertisements
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okay like who was the arms of the angel with the little dogs for you know like when when sarah
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mclaughlin is that her name sarah mclaughlin mclaughlin when she's like in the arms of the angel
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is that is that for men or are they trying to make women open their fucking purse and send a bunch of
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money in because they're like oh my god oh oh it's it this oh this really gets my heart but
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aren't women more in charge of like buying things for the family and stuff like that so now here's
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the thing that's interesting it doesn't seem that that's a great argument and it's one leftist women
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often make but it falls short and here's why it is true that women generally will buy for the household
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right groceries and things like that but we can adjust for those things by looking at luxury goods
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and luxury items and who do you think buys more of those the guys are buying it for sugar for sugar
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babies yeah i i don't i don't like yeah no hang on i'm just i'm just gonna ask you directly again who
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do you think's buying all these uh luxury items for the home can we look up that because i think yes we
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can look that up dudes doing that too it's of course men guys do it to try to impress the women
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telling you that men don't buy luxury items i'm asking you which sex is buying the most of them
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um i'd say women but the dudes are paying for it no what's going on even if that was the case so what
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even if that was the case that men paid for it because they wanted access to sex or something like
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this the advertisements are still going to the more easily propagandized sex that's women i don't
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think it's the more easily propagandized it's really uh for middle class people who want to
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feel rich um rich people don't buy that shit i don't think it's really based off sex it's like
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no we're talking about even poor people who are buying luxury items i mean if the study yes
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there i would change my mind rachel wilson's propaganda or not propaganda her her uh her
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substack on female propaganda i mean i would love to to read that but politically i would uh argue that
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uh y'all were kind of duped um the conservative side conservatives overall oh no dude no dudes i think
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dudes were more duped with the last vote i don't even care so wait is it equal in terms of who's
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prone to propaganda is it equal between men and women is it men more prone or is it women more prone
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i think it's um same but different ways question really quick question on this uh in terms of
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appealing to emotion who's more prone to that men or women women okay and can propaganda be an
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effective way of appealing to emotion of course that's not the only thing distinction of well
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earlier you were mentioning political propaganda propaganda i'd say i'm not saying yeah i'd say
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that um well when it comes to the dudes got duped when it comes to trump is what i'm saying okay well
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we're right about to get into that so i guess she sent it she sent it over rachel did first up stack
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women often show stronger positive responses higher trust better attitudes towards the ad brand and
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greater behavioral intent to emotional advertising especially empathy sadness rational appeals than men
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men prefer to respond better to rational factual humor things like this uh yeah so i mean yes i don't
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disagree yes they are a hundred percent no more yes they are i mean research indicates women exhibit
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more favorable attitudes and trust towards brands using emotional content while men may suppress emotional
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responses due to social desirability or stereotypes like where did that we buy shit or whatever um but
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y'all y'all got trump elected and fell for a lot of lies i think voted for trump um they did like
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what lies what lies did they fall for um the america first shit no more wars um the economy where's the
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wars the epstein files where's the wars well bombing iran and is that a war i think when they say america
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first they mean literally that's not my question is that a war um not technically but they're getting
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ready for wars lots of bombings lots of money is there the whole point of america is there any new
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wars technically no okay the money spent the bombing all of that that is what america first is no one
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wanted that no one asked for that uh-huh but trump said he wasn't going to engage america in new wars
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and then went and made sure that to not engage america in new wars yeah um that's that's bullshit
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okay which new war i didn't say that no i'm saying him the people saying oh i have to fight someone
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to prevent fighting someone that's propaganda they've been using forever for them okay but
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what does that have to do with no new wars um literally not getting involved and shit that
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we don't belong there's no new wars under trump there's none that's just a that's just a typical
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literally they said america first meaning don't get involved in foreign shit that we have nothing to do
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trump has mostly focused on domestic policy especially legal immigration like other than
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immigration what has one of the major campaign promises that he did yeah and then i know he's
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what a terrible fucking guy no new wars and he focused on illegal immigration did he tell everyone
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ahead of time that they were going to wear masks with no identification shoot people in the face
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no wait you mean hang on with when it comes to ice right yeah yeah his base is not upset by ice can
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you look that up yeah you can look up yes you can look you can look up the divide i've looked it up
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the majority of all people we're talking about his base how does maga what the 37 that still like him
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his base his base responds very favorably to what's going on with ice okay so like a third of
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the population and by the way here's the thing the susceptibility of propaganda is a fun one you'll find
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the divide is once again mostly along sex lines i'm so stunned i'm so shocked that women get very
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emotional by the fact that you're going to have to if you're actually enforcing the immigration policy
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of your country separate families like joe biden did that's okay like joe biden did and where the
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fuck were they you're gonna have to you're gonna have to utilize your federal assets in order to
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remove illegal immigrants just like biden did the only difference is these fuckers weren't out there
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when biden was doing that or when biden was doing he wasn't allowing mass people can yes they were
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allowing mass people what are you talking about joe biden had ice not like face masks for covid but
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literally to cover their identity and won't respond with a badge but when asked to identify
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yourself like cops are supposed to do law enforcement they won't they're coming out of vans
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in mass that's because people down the street because left going into houses without judicial
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warrants okay first of all that's because leftists will dox their entire family and begin harassment
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campaigns against their fucking families that doesn't put them above the law does it first of all
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they're not nobody's saying they're above the law but guess what is above the law that's against the
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law it's not against the law show me the law every every they're the only i just had this debate with
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brian shapiro guess what we found out ah do they have to identify themselves which they don't
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no literally so yeah federal federal officers only in some circumstances have to do that that's one
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can you look the second that you need to look at is the protocols for their safety right safety is
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what matters here if it's the case people that a bunch of leftists are going to dox your entire
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family put it on private websites and then public websites which they were doing and funding it from
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leftist organizations and then they would harass the shit out of these guys families yeah i'd hide my
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fucking identity too well i do there's also you want me to look something yeah yeah but there's also
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the well can i respond real fast you asked me to look it up let me just give it real but there's also
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the safety of the people matter okay there is no federal law requiring agents to not wear masks
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california did quite a bit later or i guess recently they passed a no secret police act to ban
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federal agents from wearing masks under new skill that conceal their identity while on duty but that's
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just california and that's very recent i know that i i said identifying you said it's illegal
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i said not to identify themselves when asked i can look that up that's what i was talking about
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can i take a break i'm sorry anyone can have a fake uniform there's literally been people
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arrested people are rolling up in tanks with fake uniforms someone got arrested for impersonating a
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cop people yeah an ice cop impersonating cops yeah so yeah i think it's important to have more than
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just a mask and an ice so they they need to wear no mask and get doxed by leftists and have their
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families harassed if they're enforcing the laws of the united states brilliant plan yeah because
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they're causing violent situations or happen no wait you're saying it's illegal though no no no
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that's not what's going on the leftists are the ones causing the violent situation they're the ones
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surrounding federal buildings and committing violent acts and doing everything they can to agitate
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federal officers that's what leftists are doing tell me this why is it that local police officers
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inside of these various leftist states won't deploy the local police departments to these federal
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buildings in order to maintain peace and security it's because the fucking governors of these states
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and the local mayors of these states give them stand down orders so that the feds have to deal with
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them knowing the feds aren't trained to do that and so what they're doing is they're sparking
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incidences on purpose and that's fucking leftists no i mean but ice is um like cops are supposed to
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like if if someone's irritated what do they call it the um sorry my dyslexia brain um they're supposed
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to instead of causing more anger they're supposed to uh deescalate yeah they're supposed to deal
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then have the trained local police do their fucking job or train ice better like the people
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that got not designed to do riot control it's not about riots yes it is the people who got killed
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weren't involved in rights they were they went up to them bullshit them in the face got on top of
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those shootings no both of those shootings was confrontations at protests where these people
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were going if you go up to someone who's just standing there bullshit and but they went up to him
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first of all renee was blocking off the fucking road she was told to move she refused she hit an
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ice agent she got shot moving yeah she got shot for moving to a fucking ice agent for moving no no
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no well hold on you're you're forgetting the part where uh they initially they they wanted her to get
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out of the road but then she was blocking the road and then there the there was i mean there were a
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couple different agents he was approaching her and he said to exit the vehicle he was giving her a
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lawful order to exit the vehicle once you're being detained by law enforcement you don't get
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to leave anymore she was being detained but you also don't don't get to shoot them in the face the
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more it's that alex petty though they came up to him he was just standing no the opposite he went
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towards the officers after they had moved a woman back who they were he moved towards officers all he
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did was shield her from mace he didn't go up to them that's what you're not allowed to interfere
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you're not allowed to interfere with federal you're not allowed to interfere with cops in
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the middle of doing their job a death sentence well here's the thing don't resist then and you
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won't get killed he got mace in the face six people attacked him um so don't get involved while
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they were like breaking ribs and punching him in the face you know what would have stopped all of
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you know what stops resisting is not beating someone up stops all of that if you just let the ice
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go get the illegals and throw them out like they're supposed to i've got to pee really bad but
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no we can't do that because that's mean i just think they should get better training and there should
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be consequences my question is before before these two incidences the the two killings uh occurred
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i guess the the genesis of what happened what was happening there was is that these ice officers
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were conducting lawful investigations they were doing like there was there's no the baseline
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there were they were protesting their baseline law enforcement activity which was apprehending
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illegal immigrants right is that fair to say yes um yeah so so like renee good and well i guess
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alex peretti that happened after renee good so you could argue he was he was in the streets because
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he was upset about renee good in any case you would you acknowledge that prior uh prior to renee good
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she was she was upset with their lawful conduct which was apprehending illegal immigrants so why
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was she interfering yeah but why was she interfering with lawful uh law enforcement operations i mean i
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think because of see like obama deported a shit ton of people right no no no no i think it's the way
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they're going about it oh what's the difference the the mass they're chasing they had mass then
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because they didn't chase people down the street i'm gonna tell you right they didn't chase brown
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people down the street i grew up they didn't arrest people from the works that were citizens listen
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even though they oh my god this is crazy i grew up in california home depots got raided constantly
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by ice when i was a kid they were getting raided by ice here's how it used to work you'd go pull up in
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front of a home depot masks you'd pull yeah and you'd pull up in front of a home depot and you'd go
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against yeah you'd go three like swat teams wear masks too they would go three and three mexicans
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would jump in the back you take them they do your day labor and you drop them back off in front of
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the home depot by five that's how things people used to do things all the time ice knew all about
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that they would go do raids on home depots they would do raids in department stores they do raids
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a taco hell when i was a kid they did a massive task force um raid on tons and tons and tons of
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burger joints like mcdonald's and taco bell and shit and we couldn't get hamburgers for like a week
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because they arrested all the employees nobody gave a fuck nobody gave a fuck they only give a fuck now
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because it's trump and that means it's fascism um i think the whole masks and not and not providing
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information proof that they actually are who they like people are like it's wait can i ask you a
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question would there be a need for these ice agents to wear masks if there wasn't a foundational
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objection from the left to the baseline enforcement objectives that they're trying to see out so that's
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just apprehending illegal immigrants the issue is is that the left has an issue with the foundational
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uh operational procedures of vice which is lawful and legitimate and valid uh immigration enforcement
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so it's just an escalation so it's like okay you have eyes who's trying to enforce immigration law
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leftists don't like it they're trying to dox these people ruin their reputation reputation follow them
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around while they're conducting lawful operation then ice is like wow these people are like basically
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trying to interfere with us and uh dox us and find our family and our children we need to now put in
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place these things to uh protect our family and then and then you're now using that as further
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justification to continue your essential uh bullying of what is otherwise lawful immigration
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enforcement no um yes look can i explain okay do you do you think if they started off in masks they
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didn't start wearing masks question for you if there were if everybody in the country was like
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100 okay with the immigration uh efforts being undertaken by law enforcement would there be a
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need for ice to wear masks no but like uh but why do they wear masks because people don't agree but um
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doxing wouldn't mean everything no no not just that they don't agree what are the actions that these uh
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they're they're doxing but doxing doesn't mean anything if you're being illegal like if if you're
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being fully transparent and letting people know actually what's going on instead of hiding yourself
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there's videos of them saying hey we're about to apprehend a child rapist and there's literally
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the activists are like i don't care uh there's videos of this well they say i don't care we don't
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care even if you're apprehending uh people who are like child predators they're like we don't care we
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just don't like that you're you're part of immigration enforcement oh yeah they're dumb
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they need to let them do their jobs they ran but they need to let them do their jobs if they let
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them do their jobs do it without a mask they need to be accountable need for them to wear their masks
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if they weren't allowed them to uh do their job do you realize they were creating apps obama like he
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deported way more people at a faster rate political this is political they didn't wear masks it wasn't
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political there was no resistance to it but ice officers didn't act the way that they are now yes
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they did what was the difference what were they doing different they were going to home depot
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wearing masks macing babies first of all the very amazing they're macing babies the very first thing
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i don't think i did that before can i wait hold on really quick there's there's way more scrutiny on
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law enforcement ever since like 2020 the the blm george floyd riots there's there's uh more law
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enforcement officers at body cams which that's great let her pee brian yeah yeah yeah all right
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go yeah i mean they should have they should have the the i think all up but i think there's i think
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there's more scrutiny there just needs to be more transparency so there is transparency okay all right
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we have some super chats here we have uh latumio brian is scary andrew is awesome hey 140 can
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i'll save this for when she's back um the only campaign promise trump hasn't made good on his term
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limits in congress which is definitely disappointing but in all other areas he's mostly kept his word
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thank you matt jacob for the soup chat really appreciate it uh thank you thank you appreciate
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it guys for the message the message excuse me messages there uh 200 will be tts i guess we'll
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do 100 reads and then 10 and up if you want your message displayed all right well uh while we
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are waiting on that um yeah erudite tomorrow guys if you're watching the stream uh we have
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andrew doing a 1v1 debate with not so erudite which i prefer by the way yeah uh this was uh
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this was kind of a unique one today uh and most of the debates are 1v1s actually this is the first
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one i've ever seen where it was not that ever not not what not 1v1 we did a 2v well that's
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2v2 with the guys yeah 2v2 yeah um although to be fair you did do most of the talking for that one
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so it's basically a 1v2 you didn't know i mean when they got to the criticisms for whatever you
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tangled i did a little bit but uh yeah i kind of i mean those two degenerate feminists
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that guy still talks shit by the way the fuck was his name the pillow talk guy or whatever
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well yeah he got wrecked they talk shit after they get wrecked that's how it works didn't that
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guy say something like uh he was basically trying to do a justification of how uh
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it's okay to be immoral or something i'm trying to remember what he said it was really bad yeah
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they it was really bad yeah those guys those guys were something else terrible terrible uh wrong way
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wrong way wrong way wrong way wrong way i know it's hard to follow instructions that have been
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repeated 20 times but dude i have no sleep adhd dyslexia i'm sorry how didn't you arrive yesterday or
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two days ago or i have insomnia it's not easy to manage why did you ask for debate given all these
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disadvantages that's what i mean because i have a greater message all right i just should be
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transparent that's it they should be more transparent all right here there's a super chat for you uh
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can women or excuse me can men be women no like can is it is a transgender woman is that a male or female
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it's a male okay do you consider them women are transgender no i don't but i think they should
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be able to live their lives however they feel like it but like not what about sports not i don't think
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they should be involved in sports you're there uh here moving on then um you wrote you are all about
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i guess me and andrew i guess you are all about culture wars which spread hate and divide our country
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you used your show to promote trump because you're dumb enough to be brainwashed by a con man now you're
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going to have to come to terms with not only helping get a predator criminal con man grifter elected but
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also with the fact that you will forever look like a dumbass for falling for his bullshit so you wrote
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that yeah that's true that's true it is because yeah what do you mean predator yeah i was gonna ask what
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you mean predator criminal i mean yeah he all things point to that i mean he nothing points to
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that should we bring up all of the other things sure i mean just the fact that he said he drained the
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swamp and bring that has nothing to do with being a predatory he was um barred from even having a
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um a charity in new york because of a fake charity um a fake university predatory criminal what does
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that mean predatory predatory like he's he um went into um the dressing rooms of of uh miss universe
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where there are minors and miss usa miss yeah whatever no there's no minors there that's an adult
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beauty pageant it starts at 16 but also it doesn't matter um if it's teenagers dressing and and
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brag basically bragged about um getting a pass because he owns owns it that he can go and see
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all these beautiful women changing and stuff and he gets a pass yeah he's he's running a beauty pageant
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for beauty and gets to see beautiful that's crazy to me why that's us why would you watching women
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change it's not predatory to you without their consent what and like him without their consent
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it's without their consent how many of these beauty queens have come forward and said that donald trump
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was in there spying on them without their consent there's a lot of stories from people that said that
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they they stopped um going to the pageants because of the yeah name one of the i don't know the names
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of them i've seen several interviews of of how they were treated in the pageant and it connects
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with jeffrey epstein and the whole modeling world and it was a different time that um yeah there was a
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lot of yeah and yeah there was a lot of uh creepy shit going on and several like 26 different women
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came forward um saying that all frauds oh my god see that's where see this is what where the epstein
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class comes in is rich people never have consequences for everything and they say oh people are doing it
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for power for money um or yeah political reasons but a lot of these people came forward way before he
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was political um which ones um the 13 year old that you mean the one that's not credible
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who proved that she wasn't credible she did when she retracted her no it showed there's a there's an
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interview that shows her lawyer saying um the reason she retracted is because she's getting threats
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and oh yeah what's he supposed to say she retracted because she's a fucking liar but there's also proof
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of all of the epstein survivors and still now what's the proof getting threatened what's the
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hang on what's the proof that trump in any way shape or form was involved with a cover-up of a
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pedophilic organization because that's where you're going right because his actions are proof and he's
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like there's still just a small portion of what's the proof redacting stuff that should not be
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redacted mostly 90 of the redactions plus you can go to michael tracy's twitter to track this
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most of the redactions in the epstein files are because victims demand them and that's not what
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the victims are saying which ones for what which ones are even victims virginia guffray was not a
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victim yeah i don't know she claims she was a victim but she was a fuck she's a chronic liar
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she's a fucking chronic liar and uh that's documented the whole republican party is like trying
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yeah he's legit he said there was no um how do you say accomplish it not um accomplices uh
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what's the word that they're using oh he said that no one else was involved in sex trafficking
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and um there's we don't have any evidence of any sex trafficking yes there is okay tell me who who was
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sex trafficked their names are redacted so your evidence is you don't have evidence that the
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evidence is is that uh pam bondy and and what's his name uh cash cash they under oath said that there
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was not any accomplices or a list of any kind and thomas massey uh-huh says differently he's seen the
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files he said he's willing to say the name the same thomas massey who along with ro kanna decided
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that they were going to unredact the names of four innocent people and those innocent people
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got completely fucking inundated according to their lawyers with death threats and everything else
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because they were assuming that they were part of a massive pedophilic cult that doesn't exist
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yeah um the law that they put saying that no people except that we're victims like the women
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children what are allowed to be what victims don't have to memorize because they're listen
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i'm just going to tell you right now here's what we have for evidence you have zero evidence yeah
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because trump's covering it up covering how how is he covering it up there's redactions the law of the
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uh the um was the atstained transparency here's what trump's in the files doing trump is in the files
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assisting law enforcement against glane maxwell that's all that he's in the files doing wrong
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periods in 2000 in 2006 or seven whenever he made a statement saying oh i'm glad you know i've that
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you're doing this investigation blah blah blah but and said he cut off um trump cut off epstein from his
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life but then the epstein files show that like up to 2016 that he was still in contact and a few times
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hung out with epstein so first of all this is insanity let's back up let's start with this
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who are you accusing donald trump of your are you accusing him of being a pdf i say that there's a
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either he's a pedo protect protector which is i would say 99 percent likely now give me your evidence
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your best piece of evidence what is it his actions since all of the actions so what's your
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best piece of evidence that it was a democratic hoax first of all the democratic hoax is that
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they're calling this guy a p and he knew it by the way he knew that the second the files were released
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because of all the redactions democrats are going to run and say that he's part of a pedophilic ring
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even though we have no evidence of that at all we don't have the evidence because they won't give
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it to us so wait a second so you don't know i think that you're saying pedophiles hanging out
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with pedophiles yeah add all of them the women that have came came forward which ones which ones
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do you find credible which ones i find them all credible until we see the fight until we actually
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see what and the invest how the investigation actually name uh name them uncredible because it's
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the same people they did name them uncredible the same people who gave uh epstein the sweetheart
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deal no those are the ones this is fbi investigators who are investigating this first the fbi that lied
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on the stand about about there being no co-conspirators who were the co-conspirators um massey says there's
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at least six of them that he's uncovered so far okay and he's gonna name them he has to be in the senate
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to legally name that oh got it so so there are no co-conspirators that you can name you just made
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it up because they won't give them to us but right i listen to thomas massey and all the other people
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that have read the files are saying that here's the thing and if you take mtg you marjorie taylor
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i know for sure that you're a pdf i can't prove it though because law enforcement won't give me the
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evidence i need to show you that in his own words through several interviews throughout the years
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all of the women that came forward the girl that said she was threatened which one of those girls
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do you find the most credible um i mean i'd say all of them no which one specifically give me one name
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of any of those girls that you found credible i don't know their names you don't know anything
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about johnson nothing about there's kate what do you have every name memorized and you don't i don't
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need to i'm not making the claim i'm following the actual evidence okay what evidence he's covering
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up for his his friends show me the evidence where is it where can i look at it the lies that what lies
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not that there even is co-conspirators that there is that yeah so you're saying that he said he never
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won the plane he said he um lost he stopped he banned epstein he did ban epstein from his properties
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not only that he worked with law enforcement he didn't work with them he made a statement he made
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a statement which is someone who's covering up would do exactly that yeah why didn't biden release the
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epstein files he's directly involved with that he's not a pedo i don't there's no proof of that yet
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there's no proof that trump is you just made it up i didn't make it up there's women who have come
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forward who said he did this thing who are and which ones did you find the most credible
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the the the girl that retracted her statement um you found her why did you find her credible the
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one who retracted her sworn statement because she was a minor and it directly involved epstein as well
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hang on she did she make the claims when she was a minor did she make the claims when she was an
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adult when people were getting millions of dollars in cash settlements when they said that they were a
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victim of jeffrey epstein oh actually uh new new evidence have came out that have directly um
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correlated her suing the epstein estate um around the time um the claims were made and it being
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settled i don't know if you've read that again so yeah if she sued the epstein estate and won
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during that time period um um nothing there was all kinds if there was no proof of that there was
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all kinds of settlements which came out of the epstein saga but here's what did not come out
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of the epstein saga at least thus far there is not a single shred of evidence that donald trump
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participated in any sort of sexual activity with any minors at all nor that he was part of some pdf
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ring nor that there even was a pdf ring and you know what evidence you have for this here's the
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evidence you have for this i don't have evidence there's a lot of the okay which thing in the emails
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which which things should can we look it up do you think i have it all go ahead i actually want
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you to we can go through them one at a time you could show me the best evidence you have
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that donald trump's a pdf i didn't say there's direct evidence of it so no evidence at them so he's
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he's a pdf but you have no evidence he's a pdf first of all it's very hard to prove if someone
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graped you or not um if you compare it to murder cases um where there's uh what they call it the
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subs um what's the type of evidence sorry my brain's um circumstantial evidence all of you can
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be convicted of murder without any actual dna without that's nice what's the most credible piece
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of evidence you have donald trump's a pdf uh the women's statements that are connected to it
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did you him being liable can we go can you tell me him being liable his own words of how he talks
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to women him being held liable of grape uh the way he he was civically liable of sa yes he was
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by our courts you know what i'll just grant you that donald trump has graped 300 women let's say
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he's graped them he just did i'm just gonna logically i'll just say he did what's your best piece of
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evidence that donald trump is a pdf and did anything i don't know for sure he was a pdf but i know he's
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a pedo protector okay show me how he's protecting pdfs literally the proof is what's happening with
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him lying about him saying that he was gonna um be transparent bring the epstein files out
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he has brought the epstein files out uh after being forced by there there was enough votes to
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where even if he didn't dan bongino goes dan bongino becomes the uh assistant deputy director
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of the sb fbi he he comes out right he's done now he's back on his podcast he says you know why
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there's all these redactions the victims want it there's there's porn in it right and uh lawyers
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are suing for it so what are you talking about well lawyers suing doesn't make it against the law
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yeah they can tie up redactions forever because they're victims if there's yeah they're supposed to
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of course edit out the the people that are the victim like the female and all sorts of information
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which can point to what their identity is which would be a massive redaction no that's why you uh look
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i would love it i would love it if you redacted if you if they had unredacted files and could
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release them i would love that i would adore it there's proof that they're redacting people that um
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were guys that have nothing to do with the um i'll tell you what survivors let's try this
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instead of the the conspirator shit let me just ask you this it's not conspiracy okay name one
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of these people who you think is currently in government who's a pdf because of the epstein
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files that you've read i think they're pedo protectors name one no no no that's not what i
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asked you name one who's a pdf which pdfs are they protecting that there is any which pdfs are they
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protecting the the epstein class the who who are they they're donors what are their names
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nothing should i bring up the list go ahead i don't have their and then show me your most
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compelling piece of evidence that they're a pdf go ahead
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you're living in the midst of a left-wing disinformation campaign literally what about
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mtg mtg saying the same thing the left wing the that the oh mt mtg who left disaffected from donald
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trump she was all sorts of pissed off because he wasn't a golden girl she left because she
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she realizes all a lie and that he's covering it's mtg and not only that let's point this out
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it's really funny to me that suddenly oh the left is so concerned about supposed baby eating and baby
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killing it's like they do that every day that's what the left does they kill they kill untold swaths
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children and suddenly oh trump's at the head of a baby killing baby baby molesting uh you know
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fucking empire people are more aware of i mean i don't know about that conspiracy but i think people
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are more aware that both sides have been propagandad and we've all been lied to or both sides can agree
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name for me the strongest piece of evidence that you have that donald j trump ever did anything
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like this with children i didn't say there was actual then why do you say you're leaning towards
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the circumstances point to that no they don't if a sheep none of the circumstances point to that
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if a dude surrounds himself by sheep fuckers some and uh okay which okay so if he's surrounded by pdfs
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name those people well he was friends with diddy he was friends with uh i've seen diddy i'm sorry was
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diddy or was diddy charged with uh with being a pdf convicted of being a pdf
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no no no people came forward about it uh-huh and and then he went to trial and then what happened
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what happened at diddy's trial what did he get charged what did he get convicted of um sending
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sex workers like across state lines so nothing to do with children well all i have to say is if
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so do you want if you surround yourself with pdfs name one name one he's surrounding himself with who
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you got to google it jeffrey epstein you told me to find them jeffrey epstein was not convicted of
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being a pdf what are you talking about neither was glane maxwell they were convicted of trafficking
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prostitutes a prostitute a minor is not a prostitute a minor's also not a prepubescent child and yes it's
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true that jeffrey epstein should have been convicted for doing the trafficking to himself of people who
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are being recruited at a local high school to have sex with him totally agree with that but this idea
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that there's this massive their emails show that the emails don't show that yeah they do then show
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me them show me the best piece of evidence you have that donald j trump is part of a pdf protection
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ring and who the pdfs in this ring are who are they nothing i'm trying to look it up every time i do you
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keep saying more shit you got you got to look it up because you don't have the facts on your side
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what do you mean the facts on my side the facts show that he's hiding shit it's just pure incredulity
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you have no evidence stupid yeah it's stupid because you have no evidence at all because they're
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covering it oh because it's a big cover uh well that's an unfalsifiable literally the people who
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have seen the files are saying that yeah they're freaking UFOs are real but i can't prove it because
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they're covering it the government's covering it up literally the people have seen the unredacted
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files say that there's at least six people so far that were involved
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so therefore it's true there needs to be an investigation oh okay you can investigate it go
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investigate it even though they were that's what all of the files are is investigations that's what
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all of them are then do you think they're going to unredact the victims names you think they're
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going to unredact most of these things i think that things didn't get investigated properly because
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how do you know you don't even know the details of any of the investigations
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you don't even know the details of the investigations and the email it showed
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originally that there was 10 co-conspirators and it said where they're living and that they were
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doing subpoenas and all of this crap okay let's back up okay what was epstein actually charged with
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do you even know like sex trafficking do you know do you know any of the specifics of the case
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what about the lane of the case i don't know the maxwell do you know any of the specifics of the
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case she um she mostly trafficked the girls to epstein but a few times i think she actually did touch
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the girls okay what are the do you know the details of her case of like what the the graping the
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girl no anything any just give me any of the details of these do you know do you even know
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where this occurred like where the epstein stuff occurred i mean somewhere in the island somewhere
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in new york somewhere in his office it's all in florida basically i wasn't done speaking but
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it's literally all over the place it wasn't just a really island so what was he charged with
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i don't know then you don't know you don't know you don't know anything about any of these cases
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you don't know anything about what's going on in the files you don't know anything about any of
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these cases i do okay well then give me your most compelling piece of evidence every time i keep
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trying to look up you have to google the evidence that you know so well every freaking name of the
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people they've you don't have any names um yeah bill clinton was there there's no proof that he did
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anything i i don't know the names let me look up the name i don't have it memorized does it make it
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untrue that i don't have these douchebags names memorized no i'm not even asking you for that i
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asked you for the details of the cases what your most compelling evidence is anything you can reference
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you got nothing what you have is i was on if you've read all of the emails it shows exactly what's
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happening i was on x oh my god i don't use x oh well i'm glad you asked you want to know what
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happened what happened is a woman named virginia goofrey i know her okay do you do you know that she's a
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chronic serial liar and that her story has more holes in it than swiss cheese she claims that she
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was trafficked by her dad completely uh or uh completely unverified claims that she was great
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not a lot claims that she was graped by two men falsely accused them of it how do you know it's
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false because the police investigated it determined it was consensual she's made grape allegations
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multiple times she's had to retract okay she claimed that epstein's lawyer graped her and then
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had to retract that too she had to retract that dershowitz did this to her because and then she
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said later well the thing is it's like i was just confused because i was just great by so many she
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claimed she was with him for four years she wasn't with him for four years that would have been
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completely impossible right you don't know anything about this you should just it's embarrassing it's
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fucking embarrassing oh it's embarrassing for you i don't find it embarrassing that you don't know
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what i find embarrassing is you're sticking up for administration who's obviously lying to us
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and not following the they're not following the law that they were instructed to do are they they
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lied about there being co-conspiracy what laws what laws the epstein transparency act says it doesn't
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matter if it embarrasses them or that they have they can only redact the actual victims names
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uh-huh and they're going against that and they're also not um yeah they're not and they have to
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redact like the photo of someone actually they're gonna keep on doing these dumps they're gonna keep
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on they they said they said that they were done and this is oh no there's gonna be more and by the
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way that was it let me point let me point this out to you too right you don't even know what's in
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them all you've seen is what dummies are posting on x i've i don't use x first of all i've
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i've read a lot of these emails okay which ones did you find there's like a torture thing where
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they talk about like a and they're a nine-year-old um there's um what you don't know what do you mean
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nothing now you know that's the thing is like i don't have it all memorized i've read i've read
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i didn't read the entire i didn't read so much on things that they just clearly don't know shit about
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like you don't know anything about the epstein case nothing what do you mean i i literally
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get updates on all the files all the time and read through what the updates are how come you're not
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familiar with any of the content of it my brain doesn't memorize things easily that's why do you
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read if you can't maintain i don't read i watch the videos and then i read what they found and fact
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check it because my brain what's the point if you can't remember it my my brain processes stuff
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processes stuff through videos because that's a dyslexic look not everybody is going to be is
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going to read something and then memorize it sure you can use video but what's the point of doing that
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if you can't remember the details of any of the things that you just watched i don't have their
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names memorized not even asking for names details of the case what are they charged with what are the
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the one who spawned all of this which is virginia guffray what you don't know any of it and it's
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like what a waste of time anyway i'm gonna go have a smoke literally i mean they're out of i'm supposed
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to have all of these these memorized when there's like millions upon millions of documents that i'm
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reading every day i'm supposed to like i i don't know that conversation is not my i don't know
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anything i don't really know much about it i can't really speak on it i think andrew was just looking
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for uh like what's the evidence that he was looking for the evidence the evidence i never said that the
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evidence that he's covering shit up i think is there i think andrew's frustration might have just
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been uh you at least he was looking for evidence like what is trump's involvement in all that and
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again i'm not an expert in this so i i don't know the details he's involved in covering it up at the
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very least but but so what's the evidence for that him calling it a democrat hoax and saying that he
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doesn't want you to even um follow him anymore if he yeah if you and every time the epstein files
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are brought up he like wants people shut up about it he um he was he was he was he lied about what was
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in the files and he um yeah many times he lied about his relationship with epstein because there's
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now proof out that uh their communication and stuff did not end when he said it it did he lied about
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being on the plane um all all kind i think i think i don't know the details of it i mean i'm and then
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yeah but like his his own staff lied about but hold on really his staff lied on on the stand logically
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um can somebody lie about something but they not be guilty of like an uh a different unrelated crime
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yeah i mean they that's why i said that's why i said at minimum he's covering up if like if trump
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has lied is that evidence of like something else sinister or also by the way sometimes either
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misremembering things or you know isn't necessarily a lie yeah but i think like if i were to say if he
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lost communication in 2008 and it comes out that he's was talking hanging out with trump in 2016
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i think that's a pretty big lie but if somebody said like have you ever hung out with somebody by the
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name of quincy smith and you don't remember them i i get where you're going look again i'm not i don't
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know how to parse all that stuff it's not really a focus of my attention but it does occur to me that
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if somebody could approach me and like interrogate me and be like do you ever recall meeting uh you know
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somebody by the name of jackson mcdougall and be like no well hold on here's a photo of you
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with jackson mcdougall 20 years ago at some frat party and i'd be like
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okay yeah sure i guess i get that i get that but i don't know as someone with a someone who's very
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forgetful obviously i don't know about i think it's a pretty big lie to to cover up several years of
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relationship pretend you're never on the plane um i i think and then and then trying to yeah all of the
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rest of it all directions point to that he's covering up there is several people on his staff
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were found to be in the epstein files too i don't know there is that i guess my anyways whatever i'm
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i don't know yeah anyways we'll move it on to a different topic i'm just i'm just sick of this
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narrative that lefties have that donald trump lefties that donald trump is a pdf and he's protecting pdfs and
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they never have any fucking evidence they can never point to anything and the best that they
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can come up with is andrew must be protecting pdfs because he says there's no evidence dgt
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ever did anything with children and there's not if there was no evidence then why didn't he just
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release the files he can't you can't unilaterally do it it just um the law says you have to redact the
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names here's the other thing let's say that let's say that he's hiding them for some reason we don't
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know let's just say that we are that he is right the absence of evidence is not evidence for you
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that trump ever did anything with anybody and i'm tired of the libtards doing everything they can do
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to pretend pretend like they didn't have fucking presidents before who had access to these same
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files refused to release them suddenly oh yeah sure that's what the deep state is yeah so here's
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here's the thing that's going on right uh you don't have any evidence that trump was part of
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any pedophilic ring you don't have any evidence that trump's a pdf you don't have none nothing and
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you're not even familiar with the files yes i am i've no you're not literally stayed up to date with
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all the information just because i don't know any of it yes i do okay whatever you say the thing is
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let me let this chat come through let amiel donated two hundred dollars to prove i'm not stupid and
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show andrew my support love you man you are the closest to charlie to me thanks man i appreciate
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that now for the whatever audience so that we're clear on my position here i would love if all the
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files came out unredacted i think that that would be great okay but here's the thing in the interim time
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you're not going to come to me with zero fucking evidence and say that the president's pdf because
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the left has been running this gambit for the last year straight with no proof and that is an op and
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it's a disinformation campaign and so when i put these people to the question the reason that i do it
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as aggressively as i do is to prove they have nothing from which to base this on zero it's all just
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well we don't have evidence so therefore it's true and it's fucking crazy isn't sir no there's
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how many women have come forward and how many creepy statements has he made he admitted to
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tell me tell me this the one the woman who came forward who you think is the most credible please
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i think because of the massive amounts of people that have came forward there needs to be further
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investigation um and celebrities have plus him all of the lies plus of the people who are pedos that
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he's hung out with several of them which have been found to be in the epsom files um i think if you
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hang out with pedos well which ones are the pedos he's hanging out with um there's no direct evidence
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because we don't then why do you keep saying he's hanging out with pedos because he's hanging out with
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all the people listed in the files he's trying to keep more evidence of what actually happened away from
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the public he's lied about his relationship with trump after he was already convicted let me make
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sure i got this right he said he cut off trump for i mean off i've seen for being creepy but then
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there's there's proof that he was still like so let me just chill with trump in 2000 i mean with
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epstein in 2016 can i just make sure i got this right trump's a pdf you have no evidence that he's
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a pdf trump hangs out with pedof pdfs you can't name a single thing you can't stop stop you can't name a
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single pdf he's hanging out with your evidence that he's hanging out with pdfs is that you don't
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have any evidence that he's hanging out with pdfs and your evidence that he is a pdf is that you don't
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have any evidence he's a pdf brilliant all right dude i'm brilliant i'm so fucking dumb yeah no i don't
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think i'm the one who's so fucking dumb circumstantial evidence can get you convicted of murder
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yeah it can that's true grape is like pretty much the only exception to where like the laws are
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different to where you can't have someone uh say this is the person who did to me um so believe all
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women don't believe all women i think so believe women based on evidence yeah okay then give me your
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most compelling piece of evidence from one of these women
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there's of of what trump yeah most of them said that they didn't he didn't do anything of them
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what i'm mostly saying is that we need i said it most likely he's a pedo protector but if he didn't
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have anything to hide then and all of these 26 women are are false and refer to him as a predator
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criminal i think it's predatory to to speak about dating um i think it's predatory to call the
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president pdf with zero evidence but um it's predatory to say i'm going to be dating you in
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10 years to a 10 year old i think it's predatory to go into locker rooms where teenagers are changing
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show me the locker rooms where there was teenagers he walked into that were changing he admitted to it
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can you tell me what can you tell me a single locker room he walked into where teenagers
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were changing it was his um the trump campaign does deny deny it by the way they denied the
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allegations he literally said it he said something on howard stern about the miss usa pageants yeah he
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wasn't saying anything about teenagers there are teenagers and it's without and it was without
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consent but it was contestants who alleged that trump entered changing rooms while they were
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addressed but trump's campaign he said it denied the allegations but he said it on howard stern before
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ai existed yeah let's just grant is that not predatory let me just grant it let's just grant that
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trump used to like to peep at women at the beauty pageants and watch him change okay and then add all
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what's the most credible woman that girl that has accused him of essay the girl that won civically
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about sa in court who i don't remember her name you know the girl that got um finger banged oh you
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mean the one who named her cat vagina and is a lunatic well the courts who whose name of course you don't
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know dude i don't remember stuff that way what i do remember remember is the details of what she
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alleges happened and who she told people about there was not a single piece of evidence the court that
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was a mickey mouse ass trial our peers followed the evidence and voted in her favor no no no no first
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of all they didn't find him guilty of a single crime what happened is different than guilty he got a
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fucking he got a pro it was a process thing in civil liability which is easy to prove and by the way
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she had all sorts of coaching she's she's a lunatic she said that grape was sexy no she didn't say
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yes she did see you're taking uh her words and and mixing it she said men think that way if you
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watch the full interview she does i watched the interview she said that it's sexualized and and
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she's crazy that woman is crazy as shit and well the courts disagree and even then right what is the
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most that had nothing to do with the epstein files what is the most compelling evidence that you can
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cite in the epstein files that trumps a pdf what i said most likely that he's a i said predator i never
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said pdf you did you said it i'm leaning towards the is due to the circumstances of the way he speaks
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about minor women the way he barged in on teenagers all of the women who've come forward um and then
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the fact that he's lying about what's in the epstein files uh telling his base i don't want you to follow
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me if if so your most compelling piece of evidence you don't have any evidence okay no literally there's
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proof in the files that he kept communicating with epstein and hung out with him in 2016 that he lied
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even if that was all true what's the most compelling piece of evidence he's a pedo
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protector and he has predatory behavior okay it is you said i'll give you if let's give you that
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him barging in on naked women is predatory i never said he grapes little kids i never said that
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he's at least covering up for them yeah we can move on to the next thing tilt your mic down and
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straighten it for me tilt it down there you go okay uh here uh you said it's like talking point
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just lefty talking point you write uh you wrote here there's a great way to can awakening happen
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everyone is done with culture wars and bullying each other we are going to come together to fight
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the corruption bullying is out identity politics is out blaming each other for our government's
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corruption is out and soon if you meet brian don't change your angle you'll be out too hope you
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have some savings lol so that was just you hoping that i uh like come into financial ruin i don't
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hope that happens you said hope you have some savings to indicate i hope you do have savings uh
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i guess uh because these are unrelated the dating the dating discussion i don't know okay whatever
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you also wrote looking candace and tucker they stopped engaging in culture wars
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accepted they were wrong and now we're at the top but you had a chance to talk about real
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issues and stop the bullshit that's why i was mad you left me on red and now you're destined to be a
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has-been lol destined to be a has-been okay well eventually when when um i mean who are you
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never has been a nobody no i don't know my point of all of that is um we can all agree that we've all
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been propagandized and podcasts fell for that propaganda on both sides and you contributed to
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what's happening now and so many other people did and like the majority i watch a shit ton of right
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wing majority of them agree that they were wrong and about what about trying to elect trump
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yeah that that they got bamboo should i have pushed no no i think they both suck but who should
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have but i think of the people that no i also it's a bit of a post i know i think i think that
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new revelations i think that the people who keep fighting for trump um even though there's a thousand
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things like everything you can't panned on for the most part other than i think the border like he
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he's basically i think he should go harder on immigration to be honest i think he's not doing
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enough on immigration i think for the amount of money that we're paying for extra money for ice
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um he should be pulling higher numbers considering yeah nice to deport more people yeah i mean we didn't
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have to pay all this extra money because the other administration they weren't doing anything
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they deported way more they had an open border and more came in well you think but somehow there's
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wait wait so so so where are all of these people that came in if they can't find them they're
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stopping all of the other administrations first of all they're being stopped at the border and the
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second is that's great there's way less border crossings because trump will collect their ass and
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deport them yes i give them credit that that's great uh but uh sorry i gotta move it on um hey it
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is what it is for sake of time uh you also said congrats you're now in my top five douchebag youtubers
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you listed it andrew tate ben shapiro andrew wilson me and brian alice uh and then nick fuentes and
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then you said congrats you're more douchey than nick fuentes i said i said that because at least
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nick keeps it real my issue was is you call him a douchebag and now he keeps it real he keeps it real
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well he may have to she my issue was at the time is i felt like you okay my observation
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had all these talking points for maga and when i brought i mean to get him trump elected and all
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the stuff but there's certain people in the mainstream really i okay well i mean you weren't
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that much but and your election night stream yeah well it's more like that was mostly the same
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questions that everyone else on the right was saying um which did contribute to more questions
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um about what is a woman was was that trump propaganda um no um let me continue what i was saying
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is that there's certain people don't worry just focus focus i'm trying to but every time i'm
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trying to get to a point miss yawn every time andrew's cooking just yawn okay go ahead continue
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i'm not trying you look there you look you're looking dude like this is my brain i'm not trying
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it's okay go ahead hey wait a minute it well every time i'm trying to say something you're
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interrupting me back i've been trying to be better about not interrupting but every time i'm about
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to freaking say something you have to say more shit until i forget what the fuck i'm saying
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i'll move on um no see exactly what you lost your train of thought it happens to the best of us
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you want me to answer you haven't even got me let me answer what i was saying it's prattle no you
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haven't even let me answer i'd let you answer no i never even got to my full point before you
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keep keep interrupting it okay well just for sake of time trying to explain about the nick fuentes
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thing blah blah because nick fluent first of all nick fluentes literally we're not talking about nick
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at this moment it's because that what i was trying to get at is i wanted to talk about real things and
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have real people on the podcast and every time i brought up james tallarico um you shot it down and
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i didn't try and then after after the trump and after trump became president i don't see anything
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talking about what actually is happening in the administration that could be bad for trump and you
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helped him get elected the majority of everyone else who helped him get elected are now i have a
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dating podcast i did an election night stream with andrew and look i lean conservative but uh well my
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dating podcast is not i don't know how okay well i mean my issue was is that yeah i when i see people
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let's say him do you think kamala would have been better than trump i think it would what were our
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choices both shit i think that kamala would have been like another biden too many people would have
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came in but it would have been fucking terrible yeah and also i've seen a lot of uh you know free
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speech has opened up quite a bit since um what about tiktok and what about the fcc and yeah tiktok
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is now censoring epstein trump the border no don't say i'm all over the place when i'm bringing up a
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valid point about censorship but every time i have a good point you say moving on all these platforms
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like from moving on from 2000 to 2024 there was like massive amounts of censorship on these platforms
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yeah luckily since trump term two uh actually quite a lot of these platforms kind of opened
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themselves up a bit in terms of their moderation policies massive broadening of free speech acceptance
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here well that's great what about tiktok what what about it tiktok's a left like left leaning platform
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no tiktok whoever bought it with is by uh well i'll know the line with trump and um the recently
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changes there's still more leftists on there they're censoring the leftists no they're not yes they are
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no they're not yes they are lady i do i go on tiktok and deal with more leftists probably than any
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right-wing personality censoring certain subjects like epstein and yeah okay youtube censors certain
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subjects too there's less free speech now that it's been bought than there was with china more
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free speech there's more free speech i'm talking about tiktok and then him going after like suing
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literally everybody and then the fcc they wouldn't let j again james tallery go on um the what's it
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called whatever late night not jimmy fallon yeah the fcc said that they couldn't have him on because of
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the uh fairness and yeah the fairness act and that's not a law who wanted that i don't know but
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that's not even the law that's leftists who wanted the fairness it's not a law for for for um for talk
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shows and they're not going after fox and literally it's not for talk wasn't that a policy wasn't that
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a policy changed but the policy hasn't changed back you can't make threats and tell people they
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can't have them on if you haven't changed the policy wasn't that stephen colbert said that um that was
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that was his company who was like look uh the fcc came in yeah his his company said that the fcc told
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him not to and and as his company has to um get um get approved to buy um well maybe leftists won't get
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into the fairness act anymore than because they're the ones i'm just saying that there's and then then
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him calling his administration saying there's a difference between hate speech and speech
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and saying that they're going after people who use hate speech um you mean like the israeli thing
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oh yeah that that's a good point too they're um not allowing college you know that's a point that
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i'll grant you i will grant you the colleges thing i will grant you a point that it is bullshit
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absolute fucking bullshit to say that um that it's the case that if you're anti-israel you're going to
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get deported or you know something like this that's all fucking bullshit and i did think that saying zion
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dawn then was a reasonable thing to do to push that administration back away from it but while i can
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grant some of these criticisms right as being valid like that criticism i had it myself right i'm not
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blind but the thing is it's like i'm still not going to let you call the guy a fucking pdf because
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that's bullshit or protecting a pdf or i said predator did i not and i'm not going to allow you
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to uh besmirch him on great policies like what's going on with ice based on the fact that people got
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killed who were going out of their way to agitate is it a great policy for spending extra money
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to deport less people and then killing people did you say spending less money sorry spending more
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money to deport less people is that a good policy more money for border security um what about no ice
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yeah yeah can you fact check that yeah you can fact check it it's okay you can look at that go ahead
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but yes the truth of the matter is is that the amount of border crossings have gone way down i get i
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grant that that's great yeah but the rest of it um with everything else that's going on everyone else
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seemed to deport more people without yeah and their left is doing everything they can to tie every case
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up they can in court they do everything that they can so the government has to spend all this money in
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court fighting with the lefties well uh that's due process dude that's not due process it's an
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obstruction it's literally obstructionist leftist policy they didn't give a shit under biden is
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going to court was literally going to courthouses and arresting people during the court hearings good
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while they're doing the right thing by going about the right way that's not the right way
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following the law no the right way would not be coming here in the first place that would be the
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right way not wrong way would not be showing first of all these fucking people show up they apply for
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amnesty when they know they don't qualify for it they take advantage of the catch and release they
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take advantage of everything they can possibly take advantage of you would do the same doesn't make
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whether i would or not i also assume that the country that i was trying to get into would do the same
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as my country is and throw my ass out yeah um that's what they would get to but they we have
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due process and taking them out illegal immigrants have due process in certain ways uh
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um while they're in court they don't even they're not listening to the judge's stance on it they're
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literally picking them up from the courthouse while they're trying to do the right thing the
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american way and that's not the right thing that's not the right thing the right thing is not to come
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here illegally and then retroactively apply to stay that's not the right thing that's the wrong thing
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so i don't know it's like oh we're doing the right thing it's like no you're really not doing the
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right thing you're doing the wrong thing well i think they're also doing the wrong thing by
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um going ahead why even have a border should we just open the border no well why not because
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everyone would want to come and you just said like that you would want to come strong secure border
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security but why because if there's too many people then yeah we're obviously fucked so grab them
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and throw their asses back in their country yeah but due process the problem is is that
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you can obstruct to the point of absurdity using paper warfare using left-wing ngos which they do
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in order to perform paper warfare to stop even the most hardened criminals from getting deported
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well i mean i think that's an issue with the system itself not you know that needs to be changed
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it's left-wing terrorists like antifa oh my god you can roll your eyes but they're terrorists
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allocated as terrorists they have been declared terrorists because that's exactly what they are
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everyone who says they don't like fascism as a terrorist or what that's not what antifa is
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antifa it utilizes the idea of unorganization while they are secretly organizing they use signal apps
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they use all sorts of different things we've watched these protests live on my channel
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many many many times you can literally watch them as uh they coordinate you can watch as people come
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over and give interviews and most of them aren't even from the state they're from three state neighboring
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states over they're there whipping mobs up in front of federal buildings to obstruct ice from doing
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its job for no reason well although just trump's a fascist that's it where all where are all these signal
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chats and stuff though well first you can go right this second to cam higby he has a uh an x account
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go to cam higby he he went in and infiltrated the signal chats at these various locations has that
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been verified yes not only verified but easily you can verify it right now you can read the chats for
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yourself i'm not saying that people aren't doing that but to i mean it happens literally
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yeah on both sides there's crazy shit happening but to label both sides again but what they're just
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both sides no let me let me finish explaining real quick please there's right-wing people on signal
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chats opposing immigration enforcement no i mean in different situations like um there's probably
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left-wing people that tried to rile up their jam sixers and stuff i think it goes both ways
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but to label still be one way to to label anyone who's like i i just want to know how many how many of
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these uh hundreds and hundreds of thousands people protesting are domestic terrorists because like
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there's like shadow dockets and stuff that um usually the ones who stay up after the protest is done
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and start setting shit on fire burning cop cars setting up dumpsters fighting with police they
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burned to uh what's the the bullshit in california in los angeles they were dropping rocks on cop cars
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they did set them on fire they were setting they were setting fire to local shops we watched it all
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live wait in california yeah elm riots peaceful no no no she grants that i guess no um what was i
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saying yeah yeah i lose my thought moving things on a little bit you said that to me i guess i guess
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me and andrew you're a cancer on society but can't look in the mirror you're way worse than only fans
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lol yeah um how am i worse than only fans because and why am i cancer on society well i don't think
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i was really mad at that i already explained myself several times that i thought you didn't want to
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have real discussions and uh you had no accountability to the trump thing so i think
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it's a a cancer on society is uh dividing um left and right and women versus men um instead of coming
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up for solutions to problems you play the blame game um based off of yeah and then you don't show a
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broad picture of what's happening like i think it would be great to have dudes um in the same age
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bracket um come on the show then just go start a show yeah i might do that um and yeah i just i
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just think i don't think i think it's it's not just you it's the whole propaganda of the internet thing
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and at that point in time i thought you were kind of uh not picking and choosing people who wouldn't
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have like yeah who um um education or anything to be a good opponent you dm the whatever instagram
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we let you on basically i mean if you can make it to santa barbara you want to be on the show
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we pretty much let you on um and then yeah i i think that anything yeah we let you on
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yeah i think 140 iq we let you on i think and people who uh make things um left versus right
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and women versus men are doing harm to society um well really quick on that note so i think
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this all would be i think we can just blame feminism entirely as far as they went too far
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well i think i think there's a reactionary component where where uh you basically had
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feminists on the offensive you had feminists who were belligerent you had feminists who were the
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aggressors with their narratives with their attacks on men with their attacks on all kinds of systems
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their their attacks on the family you know the even you might say well that you know that's that's uh
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what was it stage three um what are the different the third uh third wave wave yeah uh no feminism
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from its inception was anti-family you can go back into the 1800s early 1900s and find uh anti-natalist
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anti-family uh perspectives in feminist dogma i kind of disagree with like that on the first wave
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right but so feminism has always been uh antagonistic towards men and so if you start
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poking at somebody they're going to poke back they're going to examine i get it one extreme causes
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one extreme well yeah but so this idea that the blame would be on me if feminine if somebody is
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attacking me i'm going to attack back and so i didn't you know i i i guess i just don't understand this
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this criticism of people have like a sort of reactionary response to feminism when feminism
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is extremely belligerent it has all the car it holds all the cards it holds all the power if you go to a
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university and you would agree universities their systems they have their institutions massive power
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they have massive billion dollar perhaps in total trillion dollar endowments at all these institutions
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massive influence there's not uh manosphere classes being taught there's not red pill classes being
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taught there's not uh men's rights advocacy being taught in universities it's all feminism it's all
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women's studies gender studies feminist studies classes my message most people don't even take those
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classes how would it matter it's not like it's it's mandatory it extends beyond just the classes
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the administration it's all steeped in feminist ideology corporations the media the news it's all
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steeped in feminist ideology and so it's it's interesting to me that you point to me in my podcast
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and perhaps a few other pod podcasters who have anti-feminist viewpoints and you want to say that
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you know this is it's literally david and goliath my message is i'm david feminism is the goliath
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that i'm going up against i don't have influence i don't have power but these feminists they hold
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all the cards they hold everything um i i get where you're coming from but um one extreme causes
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a different extreme feminists went too far and then anti-feminism is not extremism it's counter
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extremism well hold on let me well phrase that better it's counter to extremism well i'd say
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i mean the first waves of feminine feminism even bad bad back then well i mean so back in my like
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from my research um like in the 50s there was more drug use 50 percent of 30 to 50 percent of men were
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creating a i mean we're committing adultery it was more common 50 percent of men there it said 33 to
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50 percent of men were in the 1950s yeah and then women was i think like 20 percent the numbers have
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gone way more down like i don't know where okay why are you laughing and then because those are
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they're not dude everything's fake here i'll tell you what take a second okay pull those numbers up and
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tell me where they're sourced i know you don't know that's why i'm asking you to do it i am i think
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feminism is a cancer on society and i'm the antidote well yeah and andrew's the antidote i think
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uh metal ground is probably the antidote like hey you went too far let's not try to take away your
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right to vote or anything let's let's all chill out here i mean even foundational feminist authors are
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like insanely misandrist they're anti-male yeah that's not family no no but it's not just like
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if if the core people of that movement are like you can pull up quotes actually jake rattlesnake
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released this really interesting video recently where he's like pulled these quotes from all the
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like sally miller gearhart all these like foundational feminists and if you take a feminist class you're
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going to read you're going to hear from them you're going to read their books you're going to read
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their literature all from occult feminism by the way they are uh they're they're anti-male they're
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man haters they're misandrist and this is like that's fucked up to feminism i mean yeah i don't call
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myself a feminist like like i said when i came on the show before i was fighting against everyone
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speaking to each other that way um i think their extreme caused this extreme and all i'm saying is
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let's um nobody should be extreme basically um that isn't going to solve anything we should find some
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sort of solutions like telling people it's not right to hate men telling people it's not right to
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to hate women but the difference between me and a feminist is they would justify their contempt or
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hatred for men i i don't even categorize i don't categorize myself as a misogynist i think women are great
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i think women are great but you'll find a lot of feminists they love to justify their contempt and
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hatred for men and that's the difference that's i can do i can do male advocacy without uh tearing down
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women however feminists have a very difficult time doing female or women's advocacy without trying to
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tear down men and that's the difference i think where it kind of uh blurs the lines for me is
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um because there's like no dumb young men giving their viewpoints too so not only does it flame
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frame just the left as dumbasses but it um also women um and hold on you've had the entire media
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apparatus for the past 30 40 years if you look at sitcoms you look you look at the media you look at
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commercials they paint men as these these sort of oafs the father figures the sort of homer simpson
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uh you look at friends you look at sitcoms you don't have really good representations of a more
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traditional masculinity in mass media you look at home they're just oafs you paint they paint men as
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oafs so this idea that brian you're you're painting women in these ways by the way i'm giving women a
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microphone to open their mouths i'm not making women look stupid if women come on the show but
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everyone's a freaking you're saying the women are stupid well a lot of them are but i think
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no i think a lot of dudes are equally as stupid that's my whole point have some of the dumbasses
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on too like they're trump supporters in that same age group that would be awesome that'd be so cool
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just give us because you're only why don't you start a show and only invite men on i would invite
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some of and there's women who do that anyways there's women who do that same thing
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yeah i mean that's y'all do make a lot of good points of things but i think um yeah i think you
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should be able to see both sides of the dumbass dudes who are also being idiots it's equal there's
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stupid men out there it's really an issue with our educational system more than left or right like
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everybody is dumb like that's a problem we should solve it's a bit vague but you wrote that andrew's
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been talking about all the shit and of course has grotesque views y'all only want to debate dumb
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asses so what are andrew's grotesque views or did we already get into that i think we pretty much
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already did it's just really the shit he says about periods and who should i debate i mean i know james
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she wants you to yeah i know that guy but who else who should i debate um i know you debate people
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of all types but um should i debate everybody hey maybe do a charlie kirk thing like situation
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don't i do that don't i debate basically all sorts of people from all walks of life at all times
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remind me what the question was because i had a point that's my question my question i was gonna
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answer his you said that andrew had grotesque views oh just like the the i've heard him through a lot
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of his stuff like um really basically he doesn't believe in democracy a lot talking about how's that
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a grotesque view um talking about how there's a long plan how is not believing that democracy is a
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great system a grotesque view because we have a constitutional republic yeah it's a constitutional
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republic he said it's a horrible idea and then um it was a horrible idea christian nationalism
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to take down i don't care about any of that i just care about one question
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why is opposing democracy a grotesque idea when you're trying to replace it with that's not my
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question opposing democracy so opposing democracy itself is not a grotesque idea um i don't think
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that is but when you're using power to take away people's rights and uh not let people get married
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and um yeah taking dominance and and you're talking about gay marriage yeah uh it's okay to be a
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christian uh leader but um wouldn't that be coherent for the christian worldview though what that gay
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people can't um from a christian the majority of christians believe gay marriage should be legal that's
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not true i'll look it up and then look up what a nominal christian is too i know what a nominal
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christian is but the majority of people aren't nominal you mean the people that go to church all
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the time so so so if you say the majority of christians you're actually saying that nominal
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christians yeah meaning people who don't practice their faith but the ones who do practice their faith
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jesus never said you have to go to church yeah i'm not i'm not interested in what you think jesus said
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doesn't make i'm interested in this what is a nominal christian someone who has a nomination
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and goes to church regularly no the opposite a nomination huh a nominal christian oh someone
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that doesn't have uh can't stop bro what i'm looking yeah so so yeah so when you're talking about
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people who are not nominal christians though what do they say about gay marriage um some of them are
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four some of them are against the overwhelming majority of them are against against but um
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legally i don't know people actually practice their faith from from christianity but if you look at
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the statistics 10 of people are are a christian nationalist out of the 32 or whatever that are
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conservatives um it's like 40 of them yeah want to it's only 40 literally less than half of them
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you like do you like democracy um in this current state i think it needs some revision but you like
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it yeah how come people weren't allowed to vote on whether or not gay should get married then they
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should be able to they were in states until the supreme court ruled that they know that but then
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how come in all the states they should make an amendment including california they ruled against it
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that was in 2014 and there was this yeah and they should re-vote it yeah so so all the christian
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nationalist is saying is the same thing that it should be up to the states not the feds to make
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a universal law in marriage but states and that the states should be allowed to vote it in or vote it out
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because anytime it's left to the states they say no um i mean looking at the statistics it seems like
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then you should if people actually got the chance to vote then they would then what would your
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opposition to my plan be my opposition is uh like project 2025 what does that have to do with what i
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just said my idea here is that you bring marriage back to the state and that people within the state
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can vote whether or not lgbtq people can or cannot get married what would your opposition to that be my
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opposition would be that we should make a constitutional amendment and then do that
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like yeah the supreme if you don't like constitutional amendment to do what if you don't like how the
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supreme court ruled then you have to like amend no you don't need to amend it that was an
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interpretation and they can reinterpret it well then have them do that yeah that's the idea that's
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what christian nationalists are proposing but you also said that you want the church to decide
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uh um be responsible for marriage and that you don't want yeah that's a really good idea it seems
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like a terrible idea to have the state responsible for marriage they haven't done a bang-up job have
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they um i mean there's issues but i don't think the church like only allowing christians to get
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married is is the no well you said that i've heard you in your interview talking about it if you wanted
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to go and sign a contract with the state i don't see why you couldn't do that as a secularist you said
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that they that um the church should like it shouldn't be um only the church should um be
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responsible for marriage yes and people christians and the state should have no say yes for only
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christians yes so everyone else can yeah i don't give a shit if secularists go and fucking go oh we're
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gonna get married and divorced in five i don't care i don't give a shit but i thought you said
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everyone else should i want christian i don't if i was a secularist you wouldn't allow anyone else
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to get i think you conflate many things so let's let's walk the position through okay andrew's
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position secular marriage is fucking stupid it's stupid it's meaningless it's not foundational i have
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no idea why they do it you would be better off just walking out in the street with some random guy
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and being like hey we're married and he goes yeah i agree that would be just as good but if you wanted
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to if you just demanded that the state come in and you know intervene in your marriage and and have
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contracts with you fine i don't fucking care what i'm saying is that i think christians should be able
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to exempt themselves from state control and that should be governed by the church i mean yeah that
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that's fair duh i mean it's a completely reason the problem with you is like you don't even know my
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position no i do know that position because i've literally watched all the interviews straw man it
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i i'm not straw manning it like you literally just said that you don't think anyone other than
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christian should have the right to get married you didn't say it about the state in that interview no
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you did not listen what i said was that marriage should go back to the church i don't consider
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secular marriage valid i don't even consider it valid well any institution that will marry people
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consider themselves christian yeah that's nice any anybody from my view who will marry two men
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or marry two women or marry three people together that's not a valid institution for my view anymore
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well i mean that's your view but that's right and i'm gonna rule from my view i'm gonna advocate for
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the rule from my view not from your i don't fucking care about your view your view is dumb so i'm not
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gonna advocate that we rule from that i mean all i have to say is that your view is highly unpopular
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and yeah none of that basically yeah that's what leftists used to say about abortion too your view
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is highly unpopular but guess what times are changing well yeah times are changing trump yeah
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all of your little trump supporters the majority of the young people now against that project 2025
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yes they're implementing a lot of it which is all christian nationalist beliefs but um when the
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whole epstein thing happened uh it kind of derailed all of that uh to a point by design
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what their project 2025 because dumb twats are running around claiming that trump is part of a
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pedo ring just made up completely made up by leftists yeah i never said he i said he's a pedo
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protector yeah whatever he's not you just made that up to you have no evidence of that either
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literally literally the majority of all people in every country literally even on the right they
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know that he's covering shit up whatever you're in a small part of the population i'll tell you what
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that still thinks it doesn't matter i'm gonna end up being completely vindicated on it like i am
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every other view i have i mean we'll see about we should take you seriously because after all your
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views are completely coherent yeah i'm not being able to communicate when you reference things you
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don't know anything about i do i don't have a great memory doesn't mean i don't know what i'm
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talking about like i have dyslexia i haven't slept and i've never been in a debate and then y'all keep
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before i even answer y'all say something else you've been in multiple debates on whatever i've watched
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them i've been on whatever engaged in multiple debates yeah and then y'all kept trying to shut me
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up before i got to the point look it's not my idea to have a two view i always do one v one debates
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i didn't i didn't want to always i always do one v one but the thing is is like look
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when brian's going back and forth with you i'm not saying anything i've been sitting here quietly
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well i appreciate that but yeah i wanted to debate you and then yeah every time i try to say something
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then get to my point then y'all say something to where i never get to my point and then we'll get
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to your well move along moving along well do you understand though try to look at it from the
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opposition view so i try to be real short and concise with the things that i say so that i can
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reiterate what it is that i'm saying so that other people can understand it the best way possible
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when somebody else is going like and then it's all incoherent and it sounds like babble
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of course people try to reign that in i'm trying to be charitable though well i appreciate that but
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um i'm never debated my brain thinks differently different ways than other people's brains um and
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i'm doing the best i can and my i knew that i would not win the debate that's not my purpose of being
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here my purpose is literally what i said in my beginning is uh follow the money don't vote for
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the packs um literally all of that stop hating each other why ask for a debate if you i don't understand
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i mean you reached out i knew that i wouldn't win a debate my my purpose here my purpose of being
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here is not to change andrew's views is to put out my point with a greater message that that's um for
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the truth of not don't switch to being dim or republic republican if it's uh a corporate puppet
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versus someone who's not pick whoever's in the party that's not and um don't vote for the bad
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person we don't got it uh you also wrote good job grifting off candace and charlie yeah i mean it's
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but it was that was based off of him calling people murderers calling candace crazy and then you
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reposting she is crazy she's an idiot and then uh literally she's objectively she can't even pronounce
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the word she says she's so fucking stupid that doesn't mean that you're stupid i i don't i have
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a condition that caused me to do that and neural neurological issues that cause neurological issue
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is that she's fucking stupid well literally half the world believes more than the majority of people
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know what happened is um the fbi is not really telling us exactly what's going on she's proven a lot
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of uh lies that are going on totally right and when charlie kirk walked into rooms the light flickered
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and he went to an x-men school and he was a time traveler i know i mean this is all stuff that charlie
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kirk said so is he crazy too no it's all stated out of context always and that's the most charitable
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why do you think candace doesn't debate with anybody she doesn't debate with anybody who will
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challenge these views because she gets destroyed she's on pierce she's on pierce morgan all the time
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him calling her yeah because she's debating with pierce morgan give me somebody like stephen crowder
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she was offered she was offered thirty thousand dollars to debate with stephen crowder on their on
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these various issues nope she's not going to do it right she's not going to debate with any of these
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people but you're also not realizing that that there's like six other podcasters yeah all right i'll
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see i'll see if i can she's not going to do it in fact in fact tell her she can bring in carol both
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at the same time what about the other podcasters who are doing their own investigations can they come
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on too who actually there's a several other people that who are also investigating and using their
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platform with other people to find stuff investigating what what happened to charlie kirk well that's fine i
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don't mind anybody investigating what happened charlie kirk they're backing you think there's an inside
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job or what do you yeah at some some point i think our cei has been doing shady do you think it's tyler
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who killed him he might have killed him yeah but i don't think he was the only one involved
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um but i don't understand do you think erica kirk's a pdf too um there's some grooming text that came
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out but i don't have any evidence that she's a pdf even though the person who those texts were to
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literally said and she's an adult and has been for a long time that wasn't grooming you took it
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completely out of content you took it completely out of content and what did you and that's what
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she said at the time like most people who've been groomed she didn't see anything wrong with it but as
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an adult she looks back and was like yeah that's kind of weird that is not true that is factually not
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she literally said it was not grooming at all that she had a great relationship with her and she
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helped her out that's what she actually said um what well no one no one's actually did you hear her
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say that or what yeah not only that but where is it where's who who's ever accused erica kirk
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where's a single victim you see you know this is my biggest problem with these people right
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it's like they always they always make all these crazy yeah and the victim says they weren't a
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victim saying i want to touch your butt and like stuff about vagines and stuff like that the victim
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claims they weren't victimized she said at the time no she she claimed she wasn't victimized
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so it's like that's the craziest part is like did you hear her come one day you know what i would like
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like one day i would like one day for you people when you get involved in these fucking massive crazy
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ass tinfoil hack conspiracies which by the way i love conspiracies and many are true the problem is
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is like our our quality of conspiracy theorist has gone way down i don't know why but since the art
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bell days it's just rapidly decreased i would like for there to actually be victims show me the victims
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where are they of what of erica kirk where's her victims i didn't say she was a pedophile i never
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claim a groomer though i mean literally if brian was on that if those texts were about brian everyone
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would be calling him a groomer too uh-huh except or you except the victim that's kind of how grooming
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works i was all right as well even though they're adults i didn't see anything wrong with it as well
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when i said that's amazing because so now by this until later in life nobody can ever say they
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were victimized let's say you have an uncle and say uh you know it's an older uncle and you're like
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13 and your uncle's like you're very handsome or uh says to a woman uh you're you're gonna grow up to
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be a beautiful lady or something whatever that's not is that grooming no but what's grooming is erica
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saying i want to be inside your lady garden i think that's okay i don't know i ain't gonna defend
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you know what i'm saying this is crazy she said i want to be inside your lady garden and she also
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said she wanted to touch her butt and all like all kinds of stuff saying oh i haven't um okay that
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shit might be a little weird now that's what i'm saying but i don't know the details i don't know
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the details what's the context if i want to be inside your lady garden where's the context
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bolsonaro donated 200 question for the near genius lady i don't think i'm a genius usually
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handle situations where there simply isn't enough data to make a logically sound decision
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but you are still forced to act wait i usually handle very simply
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um like what i need more context to that that that's all you wrote that's all there is
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um there's really no data for it and no context to anything i guess i mean that's kind of broad
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um like i have a vote from the people i don't freaking know and consult other people and see
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what they have to say about it like in your staff or okay literally i mean um okay um but i guess what
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was the thing about the grifting off candace and charlie thing it's because i when i i wanted to
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talk about candace and all of what was happening that was and also it was the james tallarico thing
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um it was when i saw that you had uh were reposting like candace's interview that took me off because
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he was calling her crazy i was trying to talk to you about candace and all this alternative months ago i
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reposted i i posted right when he died and the whole candace thing it was like a battle it's like
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i mean i get that yeah maybe posting charlie's stuff to you know uh keep his legacy alive but then when i
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saw that you're reposting candace's stuff i was like dude like you won't talk about candace but then
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you're reposting on the show no that's what i was saying on the show i was so saying i wanted to talk
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about that i don't have any beef with candace no i don't think you do i mean i don't agree with her
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on everything i don't agree with her on everything too but my beef was i was that i that that i wanted
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how do you define grifting what is well i think posting candace's stuff but not being willing to
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talk about her after a murder and stuff like i was mad that you you were leaving me on because i said
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i want to debate and you said about what and i said only if you're willing to talk about um things
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that are are deeper than uh dating and you had me explain everything i want to talk about you to
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give prompts about what no you never said prompts so i i told you everything i want to talk about about
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the corruption and and everything and then and uh yeah then you left me on red and then posted
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candace's stuff i'm like dude he doesn't want to talk about it but then he's financially benefiting
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off of reposting this stuff she was on the show and we posted the the full version uh the full
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portion of her appearance but how do you define grifting i think the grift part was no no not
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wanting to talk about what the grif define grifting grifting is making money off something in a um
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in a immoral way like immoral how so is making money grifting in and of itself
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um it can be everybody's a grifter i mean what do you mean it pretty much if you don't if i would
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say if you're like spreading lies to make money or not willing only willing to talk listen let me
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finish this when you're only talking about one perspective but not willing to have people on
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uh who that wouldn't even be grifting but no but the the grift was that he was calling
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everyone murderous i had an ulterior idea and i was telling you hey watch all these other people who
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are showing evidence of this and this and this i think something might be wrong with this case and
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and then um when he has all these disagreements about candace and the narrative i want to talk
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about it um you don't you leave me on red but then you post candace's stuff uh posted her appearance
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we repost old content all the time but i get that but it's literally the same time as all of this
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everyone's making money off candace and charlie that was my issue with it i guess two things here
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really quick my i think my definition makes money off of me too is that grifting if somebody gets
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murdered and um and somebody else has an ulterior of uh idea of what happened and um i'm trying to get
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get that out and then you're you're saying that um then candace would be a grifter um
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to a point everyone's as far as candace's stuff with like the the assassination uh and andrew has i
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said this many times i think it was yeah okay uh poor taste andrew has said this many times uh i
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don't think that uh candace has forwarded any compelling evidence uh as to like alternative
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explanations of the assassination perhaps there's coincidences perhaps but in terms of what's the
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word you use that's why it's an investigation compelling evidence that's why it's an investigation
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case affirmative evidence yes it's like where's the actual evidence look if everything is just
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skepticism she's proven like several things that people are lying about ntps usa andrew would you
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agree if like some evidence did come forward you'd be totally prepared to believe it in fact the weapon
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alone the story with the weapon alone doesn't make sense with the 30-06 yeah because there's no way
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a 30-06 could penetrate oh boy that plus are you talking about that ian care no it wasn't it was
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well it was he was saying how he was he was apparently a ballistics expert um it's not just
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one and the whole internet's talking about this yeah yeah but i except it happened with martin luther king
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huh i saw your video this happened before with the same type of weapon with another political leader
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who was and it did not penetrate all the way through and the reason
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that you don't use cow bones and things like this is because they or ballistic jail you have to use
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a pig spine and uh they in order to simulate what happens with a human being but this has happened
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before especially if you're using soft point ammunition and which makes sense if this is a hunting rifle
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it's sp ammo right that there wouldn't be any penetration the the entrance wound was quite was
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actually quite large the timing of it though the timing of the firearm too doesn't have to have
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an impact on the barrel or something it can have an impact on the twist but then if you add the
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time frame to to what they said happened it doesn't make sense listen do you see do you see what i mean
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though that's not affirmative evidence what you need is affirmative evidence what that means is this
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here's yeah so here's the thing right it's just always endless investigations this was what
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happened here's why i'm so skeptical i'll explain let me explain my reasoning i remember when the
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steel dossier came out and i heard democrats in unison for two years say where there's smoke there's fire
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where the smoke there's fire we need more investigations more investigations more investigations
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things aren't adding up and where there's smoke there's fire more and it was all bullshit
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the whole russia collusion thing total fucking bullshit from the ground up it was total bullshit it was a
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complete hoax and it was a con job and at the time i remember and people forget but i was around i was
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in i was doing political content at the time you don't want the reasoning i do i know all about this
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what i'm saying to you is is that i remember them for years doing this and i remember a bunch of stupid
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ass right-wingers falling for that psyop too and coming in and saying hey andrew look there are a lot
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of questions you know they are bringing up a lot of valid points hey andrew you know they're and it
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was all fucking a crock of shit and the never trumpers were all behind it too those are guys on
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our side and it was all bullshit and so the thing is is like now when i hear people and they have
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endless fucking questions but posit no affirmative evidence i instant stop i instantly don't believe
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them instantly don't believe them until they give me affirmative evidence all they do is endlessly
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call for investigations i want more investigations has proven a shit ton of lies from tps usa and then
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there's i'm gonna assume that they're all lies that's not affirmative evidence of an alternative
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explanation to kirk's murder it's not it's not that's why it's investigated there's a lot of shady
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crap going on yeah more investigations well if no evidence is not being transparent and if the story
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doesn't make sense it forces the public to go through the conspiracy route um candace has been
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correct about like epstein's connection like things that before it was cool she was telling everybody
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was she says that bridget macron is a man brigitte macron is a man based on a book it's based off of a
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book by a lunatic who has been proven to be a lunatic many many times what do you mean this guy has all
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sorts of mental issues and in yes also in court and not only that not only that you know what's
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missing from all that brigitte macron shit a single pay a single piece of affirmative evidence a single
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piece yeah i don't think that makes her crazy zero evidence i don't think zero evidence i don't think
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that makes her i think it's necessary to do endless russia i don't think the condition is that she's if we
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did it have evidence i mean i think i believe there is i don't think she's crazy i think she
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listen i genuinely don't think there are people who are crazies online i genuinely don't think
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candace owens is crazy i told my wife this we're arguing about it and i was like she's not crazy
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she's just fucking stupid but people can't fathom that they they're like no it can't be possible
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because she's popular this and that blah blah blah but think about this think about the incongruence
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here why are all these men listening to a fucking woman to begin with that's insane and the second
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thing she wrote a book about the second the second thing is is she was a former democrat operative
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she was a former democrat yeah she was an operative she she was suing based on racial issues she had a
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doxing website that was left wing left wing based the whole shift to the right we're all propaganda
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the whole shift to the right is recent and it's like no look she's an opportunist she's an
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opportunist and the most important part is just this and fuentes got this right with ian carroll too
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right ian carroll is probably go back to delivering fucking pizzas okay these people are just not smart
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i don't know what else to say they're not smart people
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on the grifting thing the grifting thing well then the charlie but so i won't yeah because
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because i had reposted some stuff around that time i do want to point out i i think
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i would frame it as counter-narrative so people on your side the left i'd say your left okay sorry
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it's not my side regardless of people on the left democrats liberals progressives whatever whatever
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instead of just simply recognizing the tragedy for what it was uh almost immediately the other side
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within hours started clipping him out of context to try to paint him as a racist sexist misogynist
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transphobic etc in an effort to diminish or lessen the impact of his assassination
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i agree with that and so and i had seeing that seeing this and also being like
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you know like completely shocked by what happened we'd had him on the podcast two times
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i and by the way when charlie came on he was a saint he was he was nice to everybody very sweet
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people wanted to clip him and paint him as this monster and i was like well if they're gonna clip
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him i want to push out like some counter narrative like here he is being really nice to these women
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when they're accusing him of being this monster this sexist he hated women he was a misogynist
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and so i was like let me push out that all the nice things like how how pleasant he was to the other
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women panelists on the show when he came out while the other side wanted to paint him in a negative light
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which i thought look you can disagree with charlie but it did seem a little despicable you know it did
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seem like an effort to try to diminish the impact of what happened and you had people rejoicing
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people who were happy yeah completely disgusting all those that was messed up dude like i had to
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unfriend people who were like laughing me like being sad about charlie cook i didn't like charlie cook
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but i would i cried several times because it was all fucked up i have a question for you
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i have a question yeah you've done a lot of research on on me on andrew i i did a little
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digging of my own not really digging i mean on your instagram you include a link to a website
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oh that's my grandfather grandfather um he was one of the original uh metaphysical um authors before it
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was cool but so he's not alive anymore so i don't want to anyone talking shit about my i'm not i mean
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i'm not really going to talk shit yeah um you accuse me of grifting i suspect you accuse andrew of
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grifting um me personally i think grifting would be uh doing something for profit uh say for example
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saying something that you don't believe in yeah i agree with that so yeah like uh if you're larping as
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like a conservative because you feel as though this will be my pathway to making money so i'm gonna
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espouse a conservative viewpoint even if you don't believe it that that's what i would be consider
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grifting uh if you happen to be conservative and you make money by doing it but you genuinely believe
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that in which you are espousing that wouldn't be grifting no i said my only thing grift was
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the candace part is what i said you because you promote you have a large fault decently large
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following on instagram 20 000 followers on instagram uh and i looked at the website your grandfather
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and uh it's interesting you accuse me of being a grifter i've never made any money off of that
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what are you talking about i'm keeping my legacy alive his book i promote the website i don't make
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money off that it's not it's not my money that's my family legacy well the estate i assume the you
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said he passed away i'm sorry to hear that but the estate makes money like your parents like a
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thousand bucks a month what okay which would i assume would pass down to you but i mean my i'm
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trying to keep my family legacy alive well my research into that he had a your grandfather had
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a heavy focus on esp psychic abilities yeah mind over matter claims i mean look at the cia there's
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actually proof of that shit work i mean the c if you look at the cia they had programs like that too
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like project his claims of like project that's one of them he had telepathic there there's there's
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the cia used that program yeah and he talked about that cia program in his book but he sells books okay
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but here's here's so okay he in his books it's influencing reality with thoughts developing extra
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esp extrasensory perception healing the body through visualization telepathic communications
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these claims are not supported by mainstream science uh he graduated from mit by the way he
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claims that you could develop telepathy clairvoyance remote viewing precognition there's a lot of
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psycho cia did the cia had these programs hold on here's where it gets a little iffy on the grift
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um by the way i said i don't want to talk about reproducible scientific evidence that humans can
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develop psychic powers just throwing that out there yeah look at the cia he claimed that he doesn't make
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that claim he claimed through visualization that you could cure physical diseases speed tissue
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regeneration fix chronic conditions eliminate pain immediately i don't want you to talk shit about
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my grandfather i'm literally it's facts what does this have to do with me act is also claiming act
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as a potent substitute for medical treatment it's pretty funny how defensive you get when people
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attack you hold on hold on dude like did he he wrote my it's my grandfather's dead and you're
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psychotronic power yeah it's a great book okay it's very popular so it's a great book also he claims
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you can communicate with inner psychic entities now dude if no but y'all are religious you believe
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in shit like that too like what's so crazy about it if the claim is like if he was pushing people
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away from for example if somebody had cancer and he was pushing he never did that he uh which i mean
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if you read the bible and stuff too no if you read the bible pseudoscience it says fasting and uh praying
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especially long periods can heal you he literally a lot of the stuff that's in the bible he was
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saying too that god can heal you he you know that did he claim that visualization can cure physical
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diseases it's about your mindset um can cure cancer um did he claim that i mean i don't know if he
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claimed that it will cure cancer as a chronically ill person uh when i was really negative in my life
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didn't know what was going wrong with me um the sicker i got because i was so worried and like oh
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poor me poor everything um i got this really negative place to where like i legit lost the ability to walk
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and stuff and it took me finding the light again you could say god or whatever to where my uh chronic
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illness like uh got better like three times better and that's not doing his technique just literally
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not being depressed and stressed and um and like yeah stress actually kill there's proof that stress
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will age stress will cause it's literally that but i think there there is a mind body connection in so
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far as yeah like let's say you have you the healer yeah it does help right so like if you're super
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stressed out versus like doing meditation relaxation exercises that can have an uh well it wouldn't
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cure cancer i i think i don't think it would cure cancer either but i just find it interesting there's
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a lot of accusations of grifting but you're promoting your grandfather's work what do you mean i don't make
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any money off of it so it's not a grift if you are promoting his work which eventually would
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it's like three views a month by the way would eventually financially funnel down to you the
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three views per month from my my instagram is a grift okay if i made less money would i still be
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grifting um no you would just be shit posting on the internet okay all right i guess i don't know
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that's all i had on that i mean yeah like i you can literally see how many views my page gets even
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though i have all those followers there's basically wouldn't that be irrelevant though basically zero
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views but my dad asked me to put the link in and i did because i love my grandparents i love my
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grandfather and um i don't want his legacy to die it's not about money i don't make money my family
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barely makes money it's it's about loving my yeah but you want them to make money off of it and you
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want it to get viewed right um yeah because let's assume for a second because it's my it's a legacy
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right yeah so let's assume for a second it was wildly viewed and it was wildly bought is it a grift then
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um i i guess it could be i mean my my thing is using someone else's uh misfortune or um of a situation
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to make money um as you know like uh he's saying canis is crazy everybody's grifters and then me
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trying to be like dude this isn't cool um like um then you reposting candace's stuff without
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um it was the candace it's not the charlie part it's like because you know candace is popular in the
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moment and um you not only reposted uh well i think if you're gonna levy accusations of grifting
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i just thought that video post was a grift i think if you're gonna levy accusations of grifting
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towards our direction i think it's fair to examine yeah but you want it to well even even let's assume
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you didn't it could all be free i still i still have it on the page you know what even if we put
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grifting aside my objection to the content that you're promoting let's assume you don't make any
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money whatsoever um although it would eventually as if it was trickled down through the estate
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uh i could just find it objectionable that you are promoting content that could be deemed as
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pseudo pseudoscientific telepathy uh you can cure cancer or you can cure illnesses you can make them
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better and there's you can't just cure cancer through positive vibes bro i mean fasting in other ways
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yeah i don't think he claimed like don't go to the doctor you didn't read the books did you
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no i don't know the specific claims but i didn't i did look into it and the bible says fasting and
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uh all of that does heal jesus can heal too absent christ it does the opposite yeah bible i mean yeah
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my my grandfather believed in christ too but i think delaying like starting chemotherapy for example
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oh he would never condone that okay well i'll know i'll know the exact positions i'm saying
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if that was the case yeah that'd be fucked up it was like no read my book
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about visualization and meditation and that will they should go to jail if they did that will cure
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your ailments well that would be fucked they they should go to jail so i yeah i don't know but i'm
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i'm asking you if that was the case no that was not the case okay i mean he does have some pretty
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you know out there he's wacky claims yeah he's wacky okay um he's also very smart and ahead of his
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books on your instagram i put a link in there because my dad asked me to there's literally
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zero up to three clicks per month like i don't know if that's a grift is that a grift if zero
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mostly zero don't make money i would still object to somebody promoting pseudoscientific
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content but okay anyways whatever that's whatever like that's my grandfather like that's my grandfather
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that's my family i think it's only fair if you've basically been interrogating us on our positions
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that we that's cool we investigate a little bit on oh that's cool now you know i didn't believe in
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everything my grandfather said but esp telekinesis um anyways whatever can you move the pencil with your
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mind no well then what what sort of telekinesis is this and couldn't you like control dude who
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did i even say that i believe in everything you said no and yeah i don't want to keep talking about
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my grandfather like okay then we'll move it on that's my family you don't want to want people
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doing that to your family but it was funny earlier when you said somebody brought it up he said it's
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fine because it's just a fact well this is just a fact this just fit these just facts
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he's just reading you facts well why are you so defensive when it's just facts it's so weird
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why are you so defensive when it's just facts right it can't be a grift if i don't make money
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it's fine so it's just facts we're just stating facts facts yeah well what do you mean remember
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earlier she was just stating facts i had no reason to ever question it was just facts right all those
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incel men who are dming you definitely bought like all the books from your grandfather that he
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they're just stating facts they're gonna learn the telepathy so they can seduce you
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hey he actually has books on how to do that with the opposite sex mind control books like yeah
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which i believe is wrong but but but man aren't the books don't read the books so you don't believe
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in the content no i believe it's possible to do that it's my grandfather people are manipulating
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people and if your grandfather was hitler my grandfather i guess it's well hold on that
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might be a little far bit of a stretch literally a book about it's literally about charisma and shit
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like if your grandfather was okay i'm gonna maintain the integrity of this island i don't think you
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should manipulate manipulate people sorry dude shut up i'm dyslexic okay not you i'm slapping in his
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joke that was just funny i'm gonna maintain the integrity did he have children epstein i don't
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think i don't think he did actually gill lane how do you say her name giseline gill lane giseline
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giseline actually i actually don't know i don't think he did though jack can correct me if i'm wrong on
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that she was kind of uh anyways whatever um kind of brother you wrote something very mean about
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andrew you said that i almost i don't even remember you said oh did i say he's a uh oh i remember what
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i said what did you say uh i said he's a cuck oh there we go oh boy well and my perspective of that
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is that you're a smart person and i think that you're sticking to a viewpoint oh you're a very smart
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person and i think you're sticking to how many well let's start with i think that you're you
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shouldn't be defending trump as much as you do why does that make him a cuck though yeah that you're
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like he's a cuck for trump yeah what that cuck is a cuck is a very broad term used these days um
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maybe his bish no i don't think so for trump um i think if you what the no i don't i don't i think
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that you're like oh that is i think you're a cuck for james tallarico i definitely am what did you
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say your body count was again um i i didn't say and i've i've um yeah i don't date i don't think
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she needs to get laid to be honest i i i don't want i think it's been a while andrew she might be
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she could be more than mine's getting laid more than 20 no no more than 15 no i gave the range 10
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to 20 and the last like what like eight years there's been three people or something three people
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three people yeah so okay well you called him a cuck and then you said oh i was just being for
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trump you said you have a huge issue with me platforming andrew the way i do it's just the
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way he speaks to people really andrew almost overwhelmingly matches energy well almost all
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the time literally andrew will be polite he matched the energy of the other people when i was on the show
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the way y'all like usually y'all don't get to that energy till later on like remember when the the girl
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who had the lisp he wasn't he didn't do he didn't mock her list first she was being antagonistic towards
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me and like the good friend that andrew is he defended me that's true by insulting her hey but she
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had it coming okay she she was very mean by the way she assaulted didn't she assault you and she did
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she assaulted physically hang on i've been assaulted i did not defend her actually on this show i've been
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assaulted multiple times on this show by the way by crazy ass women i don't know what it is about the
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whatever podcast andrew that it seems like you go everywhere else things are mostly fine well y'all
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took that energy out on me is there something crazy going on it's because y'all took that chaotic energy
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and it's because i drive women fucking crazy that's it i drive them crazy and they can't help it they
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just lose their fucking minds yeah um you took that energy of what she did and brought it directly
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to me i didn't you know i went back and watched that the episode that i was on with you you were
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very nice there's actually him who so how come i'm getting the grief um i wrote that before that
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episode actually this is what they do andrew on the internet over message they have all the smoke
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then when you did laugh at me when confronted in person they completely backpedal they completely
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no it's literally the way you speak to people and you talk about morals and christianity like
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um my issue is the delivery not the message the tone the tone the tone yeah tone policing whatever
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it's not the tone it's actually the words which words um talking about like dick sucking and
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all kinds of crazy shit you've said oh i don't do like it's a dating podcast sometimes these topics
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quote all of it but um yeah basically calling them all evil and shit like that um i don't call
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them all evil not all of them but they call evil people evil who you know what it is purely evil i
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don't i agree that well maybe there are some people who are purely evil but the thing is is like um
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usually the only time that i'll go after a person hard is when they're advocating for an evil ideology
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meaning they double down on the ideal so we're in an argument and they're promoting evil fucking
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ideologies and yeah i'll go pretty hard at them um sorry okay i get that but again i can't remember
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exact moments but sometimes i feel like it the as strong as you go it kind of promotes other men
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speaking to women that way and you see that you see that through the chat i wish more men i wish
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more men would speak to women in a more firm way i wish that they would i wish that they'd be like
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stop being a stupid fucking bitch i actually do i wish that more men would look at women and say
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stop being a stupid fucking bitch i do i wish that and you know who else wishes that women
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oh women often tell me you know what i wish more men would tell women to stop being stupid
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fucking bitches too i do that's what i hear all the time i bet you're one of them don't you wish
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more men would tell stupid bitches when they're being stupid bitches to stop being a stupid bitch
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i wouldn't use those words but sure are you are you gonna fill drink what the fuck vindication
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see my brain vindication put it back down yes i do think now not every woman the wrong cup sorry
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that i do have not every woman's a stupid bitch most women aren't stupid bitches but there are some
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women are not yeah who act like stupid bitches and i wish more men would tell them to stop being a
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stupid bitch yes can men be stupid bitches well we can we call them the f-slur stupid f-slur
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f or what s what'd you say we're not gonna oh we won't repeat it but uh they they get called way
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worse than a bitch we call them the f-slur that's what we reserve for when men are being out but the
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thing is is like for some reason there's like even when women are being the most horrible fucking
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people on planet earth you have to still treat them with kid gloves i'm like fuck that tell them
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stop being a stupid bitch it's the tone like yeah exactly no with the charlie thing you said well
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i'm better than you and stuff like that um okay no i asked her a question i said is the reason that
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you're attacking me this way when i didn't do that to you because i'm better than you the point that i
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was making is don't try to posture from a position of moral superiority when it is actually the case
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that i have superior morals see i mean that sounds like you think you're superior um to me i what i
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mean my moral positions are superior to charlie's hundred percent not even close you know how i know
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that because she doesn't have moral positions she's a moral anti-realist so i have to have my moral
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positions almost definitionally are superior because she's an anti she doesn't believe that there's
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moral facts like that's not charlie kirk for the viewers we're talking about chart yeah charlie oh
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yeah that girl that lady yeah uh okay you said that the majority of political violence has been on
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the right um not with like riots but actually murder like yeah so if you exclude the primary category in
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which well what do you mean like even if you protesting is is you mean writing yeah um i mean
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i think murdering people and like hitting kicking cars and stuff are different levels destroying a
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building versus murdering people i think there's a different level of violence there i just didn't like
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that you said the left is murderous and like i was mad like murderous murderous whatever um
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they are murderous yeah a few of them might be no no not a few collectively they are they want to
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anything um i mean i don't condone um abortions but then i don't believe if you can't force something
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into a lady's water you shouldn't be able to force something else so so and if you look at the
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jewish um at the bible it was just a fine if you accidentally hurt killed a baby during a fight
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um it's just a fine but if well i'm glad i'm not jewish but anyway no but christian i mean your
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that's not the question the question is who collectively right now wants to collectivize
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the ability to murder babies is it the left or the right the majority of all answer my question
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i mean the left but the majority of all people want some sort of abortion rights like the way it's
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no they don't texas is um they might have changed things a lot of people were dying and i don't think
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a child should be forced to have a baby um so they weren't not a lot almost none but in fact almost
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none the the vast overwhelming majority of abortions are not due to the health of the mother
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that's insanity and even if we granted even if we granted the exception to the doctors but even if
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we granted the exception for if it's the case that there was uh incest essay or direct health
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ramifications to the mom if you're a minor i would add minor fine i'll even add that as an exception
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right um the vast majority of abortions will not be that and so the thing is is like don't tell me
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the left isn't murderous when you just got done telling me that hang on stop let me can i finish
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my point when they collectivize to murder children they and by your own admission how is that not
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murderous i said political violence like literally killing political opponents i didn't talk about
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abortion i said murderous because that's murder and they have murderous intent because they're
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collectivizing to murder babies so that when you after charlie kirk's death you're talking about
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abortions not as literally trying to murder i'm talking about the mindset of the murderous left
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they're murderous it's a murderous mindset they don't half of the population is murderous
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no first of all that's not half the population but if you're talking about inside of the united
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states if you're on the left and you support that then you have murderous intent yes that's your
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opinion that's your opinion too no i don't condone abortion i don't i would never have a it depends
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it's a loss of life it depends on how old the baby is i would stop it like at 20 weeks or less
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well they don't want to do that either wasn't that what was in um no they want to have it clear
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up yeah that's they want to then again that's gross i would collectively that's what they want
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and they want it enshrined you're wrong i literally watch both sides all right the majority
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of people no but i watch all of the content you're just saying something that from what i'm seeing
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doesn't really do you agree from my view i agree that i believe that abortions murder yeah okay i
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i see nothing wrong with that so then it's completely consistent for me to say that left
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is collectively in the context of it you didn't really say babies you're just talking about us
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being violent i didn't ask i wasn't on the podcast with you that's right i watched all the reactions
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when i say that and destiny was being a piece of shit too i don't condone that either i don't give a
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fuck about that guy i'm talking about pierce morgan what i'm saying to you when you were on pierce
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morgan that's why i was like okay he's kind of like condone you're stirring up what could be more
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political violence with this sort of speech is what you mean the guy who said no political violence
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for his destiny you said there could be you call us all murderous and he no he was fucked up too like
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no he was just the one who was disgusting i i disavowed political violence across the board you didn't
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say oh because the babies you just literally called them murderous and and so of course the right
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they do have murderous intent they do to kill everybody they believe that they're living in
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nazi germany under orange hitler yes they have murderous intent besides just abortion they have
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murderous intent after uh somebody gets murdered in our entire um administration themselves or
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trying to like using messaging instead of calm it down be peaceful to stir up more violence is
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is that oh yeah they're calming it down remember how they tried to shoot trump in the face
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wasn't it boy it's real calm when destiny came out and said the guy who died there during that
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assassination attempt well he had it coming do you know the info hang on stop bro let me can i finish
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my point previous trump supporter all right whatever i'll tell you what you talk i'm just gonna sit
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here i'm just saying because there's not it's not even a conversation anymore honestly i'm sorry i didn't
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mean i didn't mean to i don't even care about it it's not to me it's not even done then it's not
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even that important i think we're close to the end but yeah uh really quick abortion um are you
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fine with abortion at any point no that's fucked up i i said 20 weeks or less 20 weeks i missed that
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part my bad yeah uh okay i guess we could do a different topic i mean there's basically oh you did
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say that you think andrew himself is paid for oh i didn't say that i i said i was questioning you
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said yeah you did say makes me wonder makes me wonder i was looking at the christian nationalist
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movement and all of the are you paid for andrew i don't think you're paid for that was more of like
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a huh who's who's paying you i don't think you're paid for it's the jews i was talking because when
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you see like uh they're paying me no i'm no when you see that did you get your 7 000 so here's i'll
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no i'm saying when you see the christian national i was talking about christian national
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hang on i'll disclose every amount of income that i get right now books just to make sure that
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everybody no i don't no no i'll disclose i never said he was paid for do you want the explanation
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has paid for him good you have to stop talking though or i can't give it to you
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so the thing is i'll disclose every amount of sources of income that i make i make some money
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from a contract with rumble uh most of my money comes from my audience and direct super chats
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some money comes from my wife's books which i take and then spend on guns
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some of my revenue comes in from debate university
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oh i was so all of my so all of my revenue as far as i know my point with that all of my revenue as
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far as i know comes in from me so i bought and paid for myself yeah my point is uh was about i was
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talking about christian nationalism and the money supply and all the people in the government who like
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are lying to our faces and um yeah supposedly christian and i was talking about how texas uh
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turned red and like the oil companies and um all the churches involved in all of that and paid for by
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i never said he was i was talking about the christian national movement yeah no i would take money from a
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christian nationalist movement if they aligned with my views no i'm telling you i would take money
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from a christian nationalist movement that aligned with my views phase like researching how like the
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movement started and uh like so i was like huh makes me wonder dot dot dot dot it wasn't literally
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me accusing him of that that's fair i understand i get that but now you know yeah i'm but i would i
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if there was like a real movement sponsors that aligned with my views i would take all of their
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fucking money i am the king of the grift it's true yeah i mean i just said makes you wonder it
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wasn't about literally i think you're paid for yeah i don't like taking money from you know you know
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why like i would stay away from you what's that they try to control what i say they try to they try to
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control what you say they try to control what you do so i've i've always been very adamant about
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funding through the fan base because that way we can do and say whatever the fuck we want and i've
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not ever taken a major contract with another organization even though many have been offered
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grassroots hell yeah that's what i came here to talk about all right um so me and my fans can argue
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with each other we can yell at each other like we will over the epstein stuff guarantee it we'll be
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arguing like crazy people be sitting in super chats we'll be screaming at each other but at the
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end of the day we're all trying to move in the right direction yeah i've been enjoying the maga
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civil war it's been it's been fun to watch out fight with each other i'm sure it has fucking
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disinformation leftist scum what do you mean i watch more right wing than i do i know but you've
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been enjoying that maga civil war haven't you i mean don't people watch you sound more like an agent
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of chaos i thought brian was the division guy here and yet here you are you love watching the
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chaos i'm literally here telling people to stop divisive you're telling them to stop while you're
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enjoying that maga civil war i'm enjoying watching them come to the conclusion that hey we're all
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fucking idiots that's not what's going on stop the hate most of it's leftist in fact a lot of this
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stuff online a lot of these supposed maga accounts and shit it's like rick two three eight four nine
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seven two eight fucking four one and rick two two eight nine seven four one two eight four eight
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who go on and they're like i voted for trump now i regret the vote and it's like whatever dude who
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made your account three weeks ago i'm literally talking about people um like major podcasts um
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fighting each other word i'm not talking about probably fake just talking about a few there's
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a few influencers who are going back and then people are like trying to cancel other people and
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it seems kind of woke of them and it's been uh who's trying to cancel people ben shapiro
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um well no the the old and then other people getting mad at putting the daily wire has been hated
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for years and then nick people trying to yeah nick fluentes it's it's not there's no l it's not
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fluentes whatever fluent fuentes fuentes fuentes nick fuentes fuentes yeah fuentes fuentes uh we're
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pretty much at the tail end here let me just read the prompts and if you guys want to bite on them i
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think we kind of i gotta go to i'm freaking tired tomorrow yeah let's get to the super chats okay
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all right well we'll you guys want to we'll do some super chats then and unless you yeah i'm tired
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all right here's what we're gonna do guys we'll do i guess we'll we'll call it the roast
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session i'm gonna lower the tts to 69 uh if you guys want to get any messages here at the tail end
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but yeah guys that was an interesting little debate um thanks for doing it by the way thank you and i
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understand that you're disadvantaged when you're uh you're my speech my brain no not because
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what or because i've never debated no okay no okay when i was when i was early on in debates i
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would go up against four or five people that's not the disadvantage but it's um because in an
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environment like this where it's like it's two people against you and a lot of your worldviews
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i tried to be very charitable and kind of back off on a lot of this stuff right have our engagements
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and then move it over right but generally speaking on this show and on most shows i prefer 1v1 so does
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brian by the way yeah the reason this happened today is because specifically it was stated that you
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wanted no i didn't you in the past but i made it clear i want to debate andrew well and i asked what
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was going to be discussed and blah blah blah literally why did you think that would be a good idea
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what debating you yeah is it just for clout no have you seen my social media i don't even post
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shit then what's the point because i literally have a message to i don't give a fuck who you vote
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for just uh so you just want to hijack the platform for your message what do you mean i'm trying to
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bring people together and make them realize to look you're trying to bring people together while you
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enjoy the civil war culture wars are not destroying democracy literally the we need to take care of the
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corruption before we get to the culture wars it's all i'm saying yeah but it's just like my message
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just so you know though you know what it sounds like on the other end it just sounds like leftist
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talking points just over and over and over again it's talking about all the corruption and shit too
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what are you talking about yeah we see corruption in a very different way than you do we see you as
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the corruption we see the left is the corruption they're uncovering all the government corruption
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literally no one's talking about the left they're talking about like the cia and all of these laws
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uh that have corrupted the government it's crazy it's like most of the right wing that are talking
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about this it's yeah the left isn't even really brought up a lot anymore you'll see i'll see what
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midterms are coming oh shit yeah we will see and you'll see what happens when um a lot of the curtain
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comes down and people realize that a lot of this was disinformation which was perpetuated by left
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wing ngos i guarantee you it's going to be the steel dossier and where there's smoke there's fire
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2.0 so all the right wing people talking about it they're part of that i don't even think it's like
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i don't even agree with you about all these right wing people all you mentioned was candace owens
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and here's morgan uh here's morgan's not right wing no he's independent but tim poole's a trump
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supporter piers is talking about all that shit let's see tim poole's a trump supporter he's not
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anymore yes he is um there's uh yes he is tim poole is still a trump supporter i was talking about
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tim uh what's the other to do with the glasses uh not temple um uh the guy with the glasses the
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comedian uh gay uh right wing sunglasses really funny milo tim gay right what's his last name
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well i guess yeah i don't remember um must be a really influential right winger i mean i watch
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him i don't remember everyone tim dylan yeah he wears glasses oh oh i guess sunglasses and stuff
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um the gay comedian yeah yeah okay tim dylan um who else do i watch tim dylan um yeah i like
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more peers because they bring a lot of people to debate but they're talking about the corruption too
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everywhere i go they're they're not they're not denying that there's fucked up ship have
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fucked up shit happening um but that's not that that hasn't been in question in two decades
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they've all like said the question is not whether or not they're renouncing their support who
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um tim dylan and candace owens who um tim pool's not denouncing his support most right wingers who
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are in mainstream tim did not tim pool the other tim um most right wingers in positions of authority
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or influence are not backing away on supporting trump i don't know where you got that idea but that is
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just factually not the case it's just not the case so i don't know about that okay all right i mean
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considering the polls and where the podcast directions have gone like i mean it doesn't seem like
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pretty much any of them because trump has a low approval rating he's had one before
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and the thing is it's funny is like obama had a very low approval rating in sections of his presidency as
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well when you have manufactured scandal that's what happens sorry it hurt i don't i think that the
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epstein who thing really made the difference between this term and last term and the evidence
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not i think that but i mean it is there's proof that he he's lying about his relationship with
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epstein that just to and people in the documents itself i think that's enough evidence for a lot of
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people that's just plain bullshit it's not because first of all trump was the one who put the finger
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on epstein he was the one who was he banned him from mar-a-lago ever heard of people that's not true
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that yes it is he never belonged to mart mar-a-lago and he hung out with with epstein and him and
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publicly shit on the guy and on top of that all this all the all the releasing of these documents
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happening under his administration after being forced by a law wait didn't he was putting it
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out before there was a law fake shit that was already out oh no there was more that came out
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and by the way it was him trump who put his finger who put his feet he was pointing out that glane
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maxwell and epstein were scum oh oh shit are you recording me no no i just heard my voice the
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stream yeah started on my phone all right i'll let some chats come through unless did you guys want
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to continue by the way why the fuck would it matter if i was recording you
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oh i just was confused it's just weird like why would it matter you're like being recorded by
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and there's security multiple there's security cameras there's the stream but anyway yeah he's
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he's audio recording from his phone in his pocket i don't know dude i'm freaking i wouldn't want
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there to not be a record i don't give a fuck i'm tired you're surreptitiously recording i didn't
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did i even say any of that like why would i think he's doing that when it's live it's just a joke
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calm down calm down i'm just tired and yeah i'm tired and i want to go home i know you're tired
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to be honest i feel like you're a little wound up not i'm just saying i don't know she's calling us
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incels and stuff i didn't call you an incel did i maybe she's the incel are you an incel has it been
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a while i reject a lot of people do one of my viewer my garbage spewing viewers no i love men and i'm
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i'm considering dating i just i've just moved to a new place and i'm chronically ill how you been
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great you struggling on the dating no i just haven't because i'm trying to focus on making
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friends in a new city you're in texas yeah i moved cities and i'm starting over and i don't think it's
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cool to date if you have no friends because then you like you need to have your own life as well so i
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didn't want to date until i start settling in i don't know if this is toxic but i i think that's
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it's kind of preferable if a woman doesn't have friends for me i think that's preferable yeah it's
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better you know yeah i mean especially if her friends are single i mean yeah it's like oh no
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she's we're gonna lose her uh we gotta talk shit about brian so she doesn't you know disappear
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yeah basically i just wanted to establish myself let the chats come through we gotta wrap up here
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yeah we gotta get in and out all right all right donated 69 dollars education and preparation are
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everything you only harm your position with ignorance brian sees truth andrew sees bullshit
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critical thinking should be mandatory i have critical thinking i've just never debated and um
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i'm it's a lot of pressure um to try to remember stuff when you're like anxious and haven't slept
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and why did you never done this because i told you i have a bigger message i knew i was gonna not win
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the debate literally co-op to the platform yeah to give your message no i'm trying to bring people
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together like hey i don't give a fuck if you're left or right just just let's let's vote out
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together right now yeah i just want people to to wake up to all the like corporate puppets in our
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government and work together corporate living our politicians are the corporate puppets 69
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dollars thank you for division what are y'all's view on the save act disenfranchising certain groups
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of people immoral for it btw um i'm cool with the saves act if they don't like um put it out really
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right before um election because i think that could be like trying to get people not to vote if they gave
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people time to get the necessary documents um i don't see anything wrong with that um oh yeah it's
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real tough to get an id i mean you have we have an id you need to have further documents like
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uh proving that you're a citizen like birth certificate and it has to match up with the um
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the name on your id which like for married you don't know the save act doesn't say you have to
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have a birth certificate and take it with you to the poll no then what does it say no first of all
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you have to present your birth certificate to get a state id so then what's the save act like you just
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have to bring your id yes you actually have to have an id to vote yes in texas you already do i
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mean i can can we look up the save act yeah i'm pretty sure i had more details than that while she's
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looking it up guys tomorrow andrew will be doing another debate we're aiming to go live at about
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3 30 p.m pacific that's going to be fantastic 1v1 debate so my mug will not be here uh it'll be over
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there it'll be over there off camera moderating for most of it uh so be sure to tune in that's
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3 30 p.m tomorrow and uh guys just uh can you pull up twitch nathan nathan uh pull up the twitch
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window guys if you're watching on twitch here at the tail end if you enjoyed the stream just drop us
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a follow check if you have an amazon prime sub available uh let me just shout you guys out
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molly thank you for the prime guys just check if you have a prime sub available see if you can drop
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one uh anthetic thank you chief thank you thank you everybody else we won't there's some that came
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in earlier that we can't read off but thank you guys for the support over there on twitch drop us a
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follow on the prime sub we have this coming through it's 91 donated 100 thank you andrew do you compete
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in it or you sir or do you just shoot at garbage that's me what do you mean just shoot at garbage
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uh yes i have been to a couple of idpa uh tournaments pistol tournaments so um yeah that but as far as
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like professionally competing no i would like to though i'd like especially usp uh uspa the leagues i
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would like to do that but uh i'd have to get in with one where i'm at
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your xd donated 69 dollars thank you the non-falsifiable arguments that build from conclusion
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and seek to tailor evidence to the conclusion are so baffling but you'll notice they only ever do it
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in one direction weird how that works isn't it though well for instance i can give you unfalsifiable
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i could make the same claim i could say here's an unfalsifiable claim uh right this second there's a
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nefarious group of people who are behind the scenes who are funding a disinformation campaign
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designed specifically to hurt president trump no i can't prove it but i can give you a bunch of
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circumstantial evidence for it including bots and various things like this on x right but nobody's
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nobody wants to do that they instead want to work from the idea of guilt first and then try to
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circumvent facts and put facts in a position which backs up their hypothesis rather than work their
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way through the facts themselves well i mean i see that in some instances on both sides but i think
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um those sides the evidence on the obscene thing i mean it's kind of pointing to that he's covering up for
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pedos um that you mean that there is no evidence on both sides there is no evidence that he's covering
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up for pedos that's just completely made up oh my god you can oh my god me but you didn't provide
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any yeah i did the epstein files him saying there's no coke and what in the epstein files
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the co-conspirator conspirator sorry what in the epstein files even demonstrates that there was any pdf
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anything what the list of people that they're hiding and the email talking about nine-year-olds
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about like that's not evidence of that though it's not and this is what he's talking about
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yeah okay whatever he's saying that you retroactively fit the facts release the freaking files it's so
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stupid that i agree with i wish that they would release them all and redacted then come on redacted
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victims name release them so we can all move on with our lives and he can prove himself and then
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they'll all get all get released and guess what'll happen investigations on they'll be like we still
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think that there needs to be medicinal uh investigations till after the midterms when
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we're in charge and then drop all of it there should be investigations on every person who's mentioned
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that hasn't been the epstein files are all it doesn't even matter i'm not going to relitigate it
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all right yeah i mean we're going to talk yeah i mean it's just absence of evidence
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most people agree with me it's 69 dollars thank you she was a good sport that stupid bunnies smiled
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oh it the tts changed the b word from one b word to bunny do you want to oh i wasn't sorry my hand
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i'm not hurting really bad sorry i'm just getting tired something about bunnies
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he said you were a good sport and then yeah i'd say you're pretty good sport for the most part
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but one thing that frustrates me andrew i don't know if you've encountered this remember the we're
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going to schedule you with this this guy who sent us a video you should play that video that pissed me
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off a lot of the times people will send us messages and they'll come on really strong in the
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messages oh you're a piece of shit i disagree with you here's well that guy didn't do that to
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be no that that guy didn't do that but it is frustrating when somebody is like what you're
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saying is wrong i disagree with you xyz here are my points and then you get them in person and they're
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like milk toast and it part of me is like maybe that could actually maybe they had a change of mind
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or whatever the other thing is is i think it's just hijacking no they're just uh their platform
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what no what what goes on is um you're here to um talk about your points you generalize what you're
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saying and then you go on the show to elaborate on that i don't see what the difference is on that
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but you were you came up you so strong in the messages you're a cancer on society you're a grifter
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you're creating a divide this whole divide is a cancer on society it's not just you but i feel
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like you didn't back it up you you kind of you kind of backpedaled a little bit what he you back
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pedaled a little bit on some of these points society like none of this is the whatever podcast
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and andrew wilson are fantastic for society we're the best for society the best and even if we are
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divisive we're the best at division the best we're the most divisive the best of bigly divisive okay
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i don't know i'm just talking shit but andrew just went out for a smoke break he'll be right back and
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then we'll wrap up the show like yeah i mean i think there's bigger things that are going on that
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without each other having a truce like there's going to be no changes coming like an alien just a
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temporary truce temporary alien invasion that's the only time they can come save me i would love
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that that's the only time we'll all work together i think we should literally we don't i'm not telling
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anyone to change parties but just agree aliens do invade we're probably fucked or maybe maybe to be
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able to do interstellar uh trap uh traveling that way too advanced we're fucked well maybe they'll see
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how dumb we are and be like hey um they'd stop the wars they'd stop the wars because alien ship and
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blow it up if you don't stop being dumb i'll just nuke the whole planet and then there are our
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movies were definitely better back then though in the 90s yeah i would hope that they're friendly and
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see that we're about to kill each other and then intervene and be like hey stop the bullshit or i'm
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just gonna blow up the whole like hook up with aliens though to be probably yeah it would happen
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even in that movie independence day yeah they were all yes welcome aliens and for sure they get
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fucking i mean people are gonna be banging robots pretty soon too so let's add aliens to that that
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would be a good solution for you though because i mean i'm not saying i want you know i want a baby
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okay so i'm probably gonna have to bang somebody you want a baby yeah i have my ex frozen and i'm
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getting more frozen well you're 38 right yeah but okay everyone don't rush getting married get
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eggs frozen okay your eggs are frozen yeah i'm getting i'm in july i'm getting more frozen so
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i feel like you're a lot and it's gonna take a very special man dude i'm on a debate i'm very chill
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do you think i talk about politics i literally sit around and i write music i'm i'm chill i literally
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have never been an argumentative relationship in my life with with a dude it's never been like that
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i've never i'm on a debate you know i think you hen peck you probably mean and hen peck your partners
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no dude you peck it i've had chill i've only been in like chill shit if something wasn't chill i got
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out of it have you had an abortion no it's actually why i my last relationship ended is because i told him
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he got an abortion no um i was having like health issues that was like when i got chronically ill
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or whatever and at that time i was having really strong pains uh and i had to stop uh my birth
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control so i told him like hey if you don't want me to get knocked up like use a condom because i
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can't take this medication oh and then he was i told him i don't want abortion we've been together
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four years so like if you want to take your chances by not wrapping it up then like i don't care
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you're saying because it's my health is like at risk right now until i go to the doctor this is
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your choice is condoms or like take your chances and then oh my god who the hell you asked and then
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when i wouldn't take a plan b he um he never talked to me again how long were you dating him
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four years you see what i mean i'm like dude like what the fuck he was like i need money off again
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in the end i broke up with him a lot because he wouldn't even move in with me and yeah he was
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just using you for exactly i mean four years like that's stained i know right yeah um he's like it's
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not the right time it's not the right time we need i need money for private schools and all of the
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stuff i'm like dude all right let's just get married my wife just uses me for sex too that sounds
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awesome sucks she thinks i'm a fucking object you does your wife objectify you andrew all the time
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i'm serious rachel we're gonna have a talk acts like i'm a fucking that's just it's just i need
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that you know it's you know what bothers me and you know what grinds my gears andrew
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is sometimes as a guy you just want to cuddle you just yeah you just want to cuddle that's what i miss
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that's what i miss the most actually just like pieces of meat ridiculous we're just like pieces
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of meat we're just and it's like sometimes you just want to talk and i feel i feel objectified i
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feel used and it's really upsetting it upsets me a lot you women all you think about all you guys
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think about is one thing and it's disgusting it's fucking disgusting disgusting all you think about
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is one thing uh i guess this is probably gonna be our final chat here uh well this was fun like
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watching someone try to teach a turtle a magic trick i feel your frustration andrew not one step
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back not one step back thank you ryan for the super chat you're a legend sir all right well uh here we're
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gonna wrap this up guys if you enjoyed the stream like the video also debate university guys debate
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instructions etc etc uh reminder we have a debate tomorrow with andrew the great andrew wilson 3 30
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p.m live here on the whatever podcast but not so erudite years in the making they they squared up
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on a dating talk panel that was back in i think it was 2024 or maybe it was even 2023 uh so this that's
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going to be a big one that's going to be a big one so be sure to tune in 3 30 p.m it's going to be a
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big l for erudite uh so tune into that tune into that and then uh we have andrew also here for the
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dating talk this sunday that's 5 p.m that should be fun i haven't done one of those in a long time
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those are more chill you know i think they'll be a chill one uh and um that'll be a good one
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that'll be a good one uh no she will not i tried to on this past sunday we had this
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of virgin christian it's fucking bull they're liar they're liars but um but she would have been
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really good i was i i said on the show i was like i wish i had andrew on this episode i was like and
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then i was like why didn't i just call can i just call you andrew just call you be like i don't go live
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sunday because you're on i've done that i should have called you i've done that for i don't know
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how long there has been a couple times where i've had to go live because i had something scheduled
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but then i raid over but i i don't go live on sunday specifically because i don't want to split
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you know to like split off any of brian's audience so yeah i know that there's some overlap there
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well it's much appreciated and uh but yeah that would have been uh that would have been good but uh to
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get that girl on because she was wild uh anyways by the way actually those of you who watched that
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episode uh apparently i've received some communications that she's claiming she's certain
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way but heard from some ex-boyfriends uh so it was all a grift it was all a lie she's a liar
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anyways um let me just double check here make sure we're all good uh debate 3 30 tomorrow
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saturday uh that's a break day sunday dating talk podcast andrew wilson here for a couple days so
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uh thank you guys for tuning in i hope you enjoyed the debate thank you guys who sent in some messages
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whatever hang on from all of us here at whatever podcast to all of you out there and whatever podcast
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