Whatever Podcast - Andrew Wilson & Brian Atlas vs. 140 IQ Woke Leftist Feminist HATER!

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00:00:50.360 we're just going to jump right into it uh i'm joined today by andrew wilson he's the host of

00:00:57.480 the crucible he's a blood sports debater and political commentator also joining us today

00:01:03.040 is jen stone she is a 140 iq woke feminist leftist hater i'm not any of that oh sorry

00:01:10.800 well okay well do you want to introduce yourself then i'm not okay i miss isn't that what my um

00:01:18.400 introduction speech is well you can intro yourself and then if you want to just go right in stone

00:01:22.800 go right into your opening i'm not a feminist or what did you all say it was uh woke feminist

00:01:29.880 leftist hater i'm not leftist either i don't hate anybody and my iq technically is at 140 so is it

00:01:38.040 higher 143 i'm i apologize by the way please make the correction let the record show her iq is in fact

00:01:46.000 143 and not 140 as i erroneously i don't like labels that labels you're giving me gotcha uh do

00:01:53.280 you want to just just go ahead into your opening statement sure this is why i'm here is um the

00:02:01.980 population likes to give such labels to everybody like 50 percent of the population is either woke or

00:02:09.120 a nazi um and i think that's contributing to the downfall of our nation um andrew said when i was

00:02:18.760 on the show that he hates people like me the most who don't take sides um from the way i see it i have

00:02:28.060 a broader picture of what's actually happening in the world um it's not like i agree with everybody

00:02:37.120 on each side but everybody has something to say that can contribute um to society um and

00:02:46.700 people tend to just like turn off something the first time they hear something they don't agree with

00:02:53.820 and say bad things about people um but when they dig deeper um everybody part of your opening or is

00:03:01.720 this part of yeah this is this is the opening okay okay everybody has good points on shit um from what

00:03:08.860 i see from my bigger perspective is while we're fighting over bathrooms and the super bowl and

00:03:15.400 all of that nonsense um yeah crazy shit's happening and it's been happening for a long time it's on both

00:03:24.860 sides um um starting you know around the 1970s with um with uh citizens united and quick pro quo and um

00:03:37.720 just changing of our the um corporate taxes not really paying much taxes anymore um

00:03:46.600 um it kind of seems like we're all fighting for the same thing in andrew's perspective he wants to

00:03:53.860 bring back the 1950s because there's less debauchery and family values and the left wants um a tax

00:04:05.700 structure um that's more towards the 1950s as well which is basically i like the bernie sanders level of

00:04:12.820 you know yeah uh taxes which i don't advocate for completely that to happen um but they're basically

00:04:22.840 fighting for the same thing and blame the other people for taking it away if that makes sense um

00:04:28.600 and both sides have good points um they just think each other's to blame and if you look at the bigger

00:04:36.480 picture um yeah i don't i don't know um people need to look instead of going to the back to the past we

00:04:45.540 should strive to solve issues for the future um because with ai coming and stuff like nothing is going to be

00:04:52.420 traditional we're in a new it's a new revolution a new age so why are we trying to bring back

00:04:59.320 something that will never happen again um and basically the last thing is i don't care who you

00:05:07.480 vote for um i'm i'm calling it the great awakening uh one thing we can most of us agree on is to stop

00:05:15.060 supporting people who um who have lots of donors from super PACs um support people who want to change

00:05:25.900 these flaws in our system that are have created what some would say the um the deep state um the epstein

00:05:35.020 class uh vote out all the old boomers who are just corporate puppets that goes on both sides

00:05:42.840 and that's really the only way um that we could start putting the pieces back together basically

00:05:49.100 that's it uh just one really quick thing i know andrea has a bunch of notes that he wanted to jump

00:05:53.500 into at the very beginning of your opening you conflated uh for example people on the right

00:05:58.840 um calling the other side woke and that you you compared that to people on the left calling people

00:06:06.200 on the right nazis do you think that that's an equivalent comparison because i think

00:06:10.860 levying the label of nazi towards somebody who's right wing is or like orders of magnitude a

00:06:17.240 more egregious perhaps mislabeling than just calling somebody woke woke doesn't seem to have

00:06:23.220 quite the gravitas yes uh and like it's not quite as negative as nazi i agree with that but when they

00:06:31.300 say woke like he he calls everyone marxist and communists um andrew i mean i think marxist and

00:06:38.860 communists huh only marxist and communists and you call them like what you always use the word

00:06:45.820 the word debauchery degeneracy degeneracy and um only degenerates and just yeah um yeah i don't call

00:06:56.500 anyone a nazi um that's what i'm saying i'm not would you call a nazi a nazi for sure

00:07:02.580 um and then calling people who are protesting um so domestic terrorists i think it goes extreme on

00:07:12.020 both sides can i ask you something because you're both citing it what you're doing i'm not both

00:07:16.620 citing it i lean more left it's called a i lean more i'm a libertarian i've talked about this i haven't

00:07:22.760 said a word okay okay what you're doing is called both citing it's a it's a the attempt to pretend that

00:07:31.200 you have neutral positions when you don't have neutral positions and that's what you're doing

00:07:35.480 is you're both citing for instance you said you're talking about nazis and woke andrew you call

00:07:41.320 everybody a degenerate andrew you call everybody a marxist no i call marxist marxist i call communists

00:07:47.840 communists i call degenerates degenerates i ask you would you call a nazi a nazi yeah so what's the

00:07:53.980 difference some of the ways you describe people i don't agree with um without is it is somebody who

00:08:03.640 participates in gangbangs nightly a degenerate yes okay is somebody the majority of people on the

00:08:10.480 left aren't doing gangbangs that's not what i'm asking though is somebody who uh says that they're a

00:08:15.840 stalinist communist are they marxist yeah yeah okay so and then it's somebody who who is wearing a

00:08:24.880 uniform that says ss and has a swastika on it are they a nazi yes but you're conflating half the

00:08:30.660 population as one thing and half the population is something else when have i done these when have

00:08:37.660 i done these things not all of them i've yeah and you literally say i hate i know i'm christian and

00:08:43.220 but i hate the left i do it's true yeah i mean i do fucking hate leftists yeah it's god will one

00:08:50.280 day punish my eternal soul so for the fact that i just cannot bring myself to not hate fucking leftists

00:08:57.760 well okay then you shouldn't be preaching morals to the world why not because preach the morals just

00:09:04.680 don't do it in the name of jesus if you're going against what jesus says so just be perfect don't be

00:09:09.960 perfect but so how imperfect don't be vain you're not supposed to be vain how is that vanity that's

00:09:15.180 me that's the opposite of vanity me saying i have a the the moral failing right an aspect of my own

00:09:21.340 morality that's very difficult for me to a demon that's very difficult for me to surmount which is

00:09:26.560 i know i'm not supposed to hate people i know that but i also can't fucking help but hate leftists i

00:09:32.820 can't and by the way that's a struggle that christians all over the united states have every

00:09:39.320 single day wouldn't it be the opposite of vanity if i say to people if i if i were to go hey i'm

00:09:46.140 fucking perfect in every conceivable way i'm without flaw i am awesome in every conceivable way

00:09:52.540 that's vanity wouldn't the opposite of vanity me being me saying look i know that i have a high

00:09:59.120 moral standard and i know i myself at times don't live up to that high moral standard which is part

00:10:03.900 of christian ethics isn't that the opposite of being vain no i think being vain is not working on

00:10:11.540 it and openly saying like you did to charlie i'm better than you and calling her dumb and stuff like

00:10:16.700 that i don't think that's the correct way to go about she shouldn't open her stupid mouth about my

00:10:20.460 wife then that was before that happened actually it was right before but no it wasn't yes it wasn't it

00:10:27.100 was after i'll bet you 100 bucks it was after i know for sure the stupid thing became came before

00:10:36.080 well perhaps we shouldn't have a meta conversation oh well no that's true i called her stupid but

00:10:41.600 stupid has nothing to do with did was i attacking her family no i didn't do any of that me saying you

00:10:48.700 have a stupid position or that's idiotic or that's moronic right that's light stuff well like

00:10:54.080 blessed are the meek blessed are the peacemakers and the thing about christianity is you're supposed to

00:10:59.740 be is you're supposed to strive and work to be for the way i perceive jesus is literally trying to get

00:11:08.160 to discipleship which means like following all of the commandments and not using like being forgiven as

00:11:14.400 a sinner as an excuse to keep doing it you have to always work towards being better yeah instead of

00:11:25.480 just accepting like oh this is me um yeah you have to work for that um and it doesn't i've told this

00:11:33.720 story many times the story of the monk i don't know if you've heard that before it was a monk who was an

00:11:39.380 alcoholic his entire life and then when he died people were crying and one monk said why are you

00:11:45.580 crying he was a drunk his entire life and they were so happy because he had cut his booze consumption

00:11:49.500 down by half just meant that the entirety he was trying to overcome that demon his entire life and

00:11:55.900 he couldn't quite do it okay i get it i understand right if you think that i don't struggle with the

00:12:02.700 fact that there i do have heavy hatred in my heart for leftists you're wrong struggle with it all the

00:12:07.800 time i understand that i'm not a perfect person i've always understood i'm not a perfect person

00:12:12.220 i also understand these people do everything that they can to make sure i fucking hate them too

00:12:16.360 a lot of everything they can do to make sure i hate them education um so yeah um they're the most

00:12:23.820 educated people on both sides they're the most educated people on the planet who the the only

00:12:29.560 vangirls you have leftist yes and you think with more education comes more wisdom or that's what your

00:12:36.100 point just was five seconds ago five seconds ago you're like it's lack of education no i mean the

00:12:41.440 people on your on like this that comes on this show is what i was talking about most of them have more

00:12:46.300 education than i do yeah that's why i see things from a bigger picture our educational system is

00:12:52.380 fucked like i watch this show and i'm like wow where's where's the world coming to but i also watch on

00:12:57.660 the left when they ask similar questions about history and stuff and government and they're just as

00:13:03.800 they're just as clueless so i i that's why i think i have an advantage no they're just monstrous

00:13:09.420 of just they're just monsters seeing the bigger picture of like i mean we're all we're all fucked

00:13:16.300 up we're all kind of dumb and um instead of fighting each other maybe we should just work on fixing the

00:13:22.880 issues yeah the problem is is that we can't even agree on what the descriptors of the issues are

00:13:27.880 well i think we should start with just um what they call it table issues we don't okay all can

00:13:36.080 agree and give me a table issue um a good economy we can all agree on ending corruption okay great so

00:13:44.380 we can all agree on yeah let's start with this like a good economy would you agree with me that it

00:13:50.200 would lower housing prices if we were to deport every illegal immigrant tomorrow yes okay great do you

00:13:55.760 think that the left's going to go along with that no no so i don't not understand how so how is it

00:14:01.300 that when you have a table issue you say okay here's an issue i want a good economy okay great

00:14:06.600 we can start with hang on hang on hang on let me finish the point okay how is it that if i can't find

00:14:13.020 any common ground with these people how are we supposed to uh surmount these ideological differences

00:14:19.700 exactly you can tell me how to do that if you stick to the basic common ground first of all like

00:14:25.380 most yeah the housing mark market issue is isn't an issue of like it might contribute like the

00:14:34.040 legals might contribute a little bit but um yeah that that's you see what i mean we can't even agree

00:14:39.760 on descriptors so if we can't even agree on descriptors of problems how is it that you expect

00:14:44.240 that you have to look at everything as a full picture you can't all right i'll tell you what

00:14:50.220 let's do it this way tell me the full picture the full picture and in my imaginary you know perfect

00:14:58.560 situation of how to fix things is the first thing we need to do is vote out all the the puppets

00:15:05.580 and vote hang on who's we we the people everyone on both sides forget the culture wars let's just

00:15:12.840 have a a small truce until the agreed upon terms are agreed upon and then we can get to the to the

00:15:20.740 cultural issues okay and who are the puppets we're voting out what are their names what are their

00:15:24.900 puppets names um well it's not just one person it's um the corporations it's the cia the corporations

00:15:33.520 aren't names of people who are the puppets we're voting out what are their names oh um just vote based

00:15:39.940 off of the packs that have contributed to their funds i'm asking about names what are the names

00:15:45.600 of the people we should be voting out mostly all of them who give me some names um i can say who to

00:15:53.700 keep keep thomas massey keep rand paul um mtj you know i'm sure she's gonna come back on the the left

00:16:04.580 um what's the dude that was teaming with um yeah i know but who are the so who are the global puppets

00:16:12.920 that we're going to come together to get rid of there's easy ways to look at this is to there's

00:16:19.380 websites where you can look at their um campaign fund contributions and you can actually see how they vote

00:16:26.060 on certain things whether um it seems directly correlate to like money or um or packs like you see

00:16:35.380 the vagary do you see how vague you are it's not vague well you're hang on you're saying what you're

00:16:41.140 doing is you're saying it's us versus them we versus those okay i understand that but who's the we

00:16:48.020 and who are the they the we are we the people deciding to well these are people whoever's on your

00:16:54.280 side if they if you elected them and they promise all these things and they're going directly against

00:17:00.080 what you elected them for plus contribute have pack um contributions from like corporations and if

00:17:09.520 they're getting rich um by trading stock um that sort of thing then maybe they should go yeah but the

00:17:17.680 problem is is that we live in a democracy democracies are set up in power structures and the power

00:17:23.860 structures are set up based around people's interests so people have learned that they can

00:17:27.740 raid the treasury by having x amount of people who are representing their interests in office

00:17:32.240 exactly so there is no hang on hang on no if that's exactly then your point's contradicted no yeah i wasn't

00:17:38.060 gonna explain how your point's contradicted because there is no we there is no collective what there is

00:17:45.580 is there's a whole bunch of different power blocks all competing for it for their own interests

00:17:50.480 in the united states for power yeah that's what's happening so when you say we should put our petty

00:17:56.900 differences aside well they're not petty differences they're massive differences there is no collective we

00:18:02.420 there's groups and blocks of people who are competing for power utilizing the democratic process that's

00:18:10.200 what's happening so how do you plan on surmounting that barrier how can i go vote for people

00:18:15.620 oh we're gonna vote harder we're gonna vote our way out of this do either that or revolution this is

00:18:21.060 my last attempt this is who are we right who are we having a revolution against the voting block is

00:18:27.560 just as bad as the elites they put in power so who the fuck are we supposed to revolt against am i

00:18:33.120 supposed to revolt let's say i did let's say we did tomorrow we revolted against the government

00:18:36.760 let's just say right who's we then which power block is revolting against which which block of

00:18:44.200 government in order to get power which one am i supposed to support because the way that the

00:18:49.300 democracy is set up it's not a monolith it is independent power interest and they're all voting

00:18:56.580 against the interest of other people and in their own that's why we need to hire people who have

00:19:01.540 taken no pack money and their biggest objectives um to start off with is repealing the the laws

00:19:10.760 that got this situation here to begin with yeah but the problem you can't do that and here's why

00:19:15.840 if you have you have packs and super packs out there right now who are supporting abortion rights

00:19:20.560 for women right yeah yeah okay so all the people who want abortion rights all the women who want

00:19:27.640 abortion rights they want those packs donating they think they're benevolent they think that's

00:19:32.720 good and so on the other side the people who are anti-abortion who think that you're murdering tons

00:19:38.220 and tons and tons of children right they support pack endeavors which are designed to put politicians

00:19:44.140 in place which will put local legislation against things like abortion i'd say no packs what what i would

00:19:51.500 do in a perfect world is get rid of the packs all together and use government funding and give them

00:19:58.840 all equal equal amount to campaign on and take take that out of so you're going to give all the power

00:20:04.020 of the vote to the media to the media yeah and i mean there's more than just the media let's say

00:20:12.500 that there's more than just the media there's door knocking there's if you had let's say you had

00:20:16.580 four politicians right and all of them were funded with public financing they all got the same

00:20:22.820 amount let's say it was one million dollars right let's just say it was whichever politician

00:20:29.120 mass media covers the most that's actually going to be the politician that wins it doesn't matter

00:20:34.280 how it doesn't matter the money at that point because media who's covering them they'll always be

00:20:40.280 able to pump in whatever money they want they'll end up electing the person that they want

00:20:44.600 well maybe we should make laws against that as well what what do those look like you don't yeah

00:20:51.140 exactly you don't know you don't know the whole i'm not a lawmaker my whole thing is us as a people

00:20:57.560 i thought you had this great bird's eye view and understood how it all worked i understand what's

00:21:01.480 happening and i understand if we all work together we can start making some steps in the right direction

00:21:06.380 how are we going to work together we can't even agree on the issues i don't know what you've been

00:21:11.040 watching but this has been spreading all over media that were of this pact or of we all agree

00:21:18.040 on america first we all agree on we don't agree on that the majority of us do no the majority of us

00:21:24.940 don't yes america america first was kind of more of a dumb thing like we were tired of all the wars

00:21:29.940 this whole time america first kind of came in no america first was the idea was trump capturing the

00:21:36.700 idea of the american family again the idea that you could have a single income and support an entire

00:21:42.480 family by utilizing a tax system based on tariffs against our enemies and making it fair again that

00:21:49.080 was one of the that was the probably the core idea of america hang on hang on let me finish my point

00:21:54.440 the core idea of america first was that right the idea that he was going to get rid of all the

00:21:59.600 illegal immigrants things like that yes that's true that that was a core part of his message

00:22:03.360 but ultimately he was trying to trying to reinvigorate and recapture the idealism

00:22:07.820 of the american family that is what america first really was well i'd say the majority of the

00:22:13.880 population believes america first is taking care of um us before we start bombing people and funding

00:22:20.620 israel and bailing people out and i agree but that but who's we again when you say taking care of us

00:22:27.860 first he is the american family it is the same thing because you act like dims don't want to have

00:22:35.400 families and stuff they fucking hate families can you look up the statistics on that uh there actually

00:22:40.060 is something on this um hey uh nathan can you go pull up the discord do you know our discord well

00:22:47.260 uh we do have some data on this i have an infographic uh nathan let me know when you you're on the discord

00:22:54.560 okay so you're going to scroll down there's a research tab in our discord uh so it's not a uh

00:23:01.900 it's it's closer to the bottom and you're going to see whatever stats infographics do you see the

00:23:06.680 infographics okay and then if you scroll three up uh do you see the nbc news decision desk poll

00:23:15.260 yeah okay so uh you're going to click on that and there's two photos

00:23:23.180 click on the first one and then sorry put it window tab uh click on the image

00:23:29.300 all right uh you you might have to uh hi i'm just going to read it but so this is women who voted for

00:23:38.860 harris they have uh this is the importance to personal definition of success so at the very top

00:23:46.960 for women who voted for harris democrats fulfilling job career 51 at the very bottom uh here you're

00:23:52.740 going to have to hide us uh okay in the sources tab do you see where it says right corner just hide

00:23:58.000 us temporarily yeah so it says uh for women who vote for harris it's uh being married six percent

00:24:03.500 having children six percent and then mouse over to the next image uh yeah click that one and then

00:24:12.040 click on it and this is uh men who vote for harris being married 11 having children nine percent you can

00:24:19.180 compare and contrast that with the women who vote for trump versus the uh men who vote for trump

00:24:24.840 interestingly enough can you go back to the other one

00:24:27.300 uh so men who voted for trump having children uh is at the very top there being married 29

00:24:36.700 and you contrast that with women who vote for harris actually men who voted for trump have a higher

00:24:41.700 priority for uh having children being married than even women who vote for trump can just pull up the

00:24:46.140 other one really quick again uh so even women who vote for trump they they actually rank being married

00:24:54.780 and having children lower than men who vote for trump but it's still greater than uh democrats i think

00:25:00.380 what contributes to that is um where we are financially um i do agree there's more people

00:25:08.920 on the left that don't want kids um but the we were raised they're anti-natalist monsters

00:25:15.500 see they're anti-natalism see that's what you got to work on okay so well i mean what do you want to

00:25:24.440 say when the baby boom happened right the baby boom yeah like you know boomers yeah and all of that

00:25:33.860 is it happened um when our economy was in a great space like um and yeah um i think people are waiting

00:25:44.680 to get married till they're older and have kids till they're older because feminism well i mean yeah that

00:25:50.580 has a part to it but um it's freaking expensive andrew was asking you a good question as to you

00:25:58.400 know you're saying we should all unite and get together and but andrew said well we don't even

00:26:03.340 agree on some of these basic issues just curious what's your position but he brought up uh illegal

00:26:08.160 immigration for example and how that has an impact on the economy the housing stock in this country

00:26:13.560 is diminished if it's you know occupied by illegal immigrants are you in favor of uh deporting all

00:26:20.560 the illegal immigrants in this country um i have a middle ground i would deport both sides

00:26:26.400 the world has a middle ground literally nothing is black and white two questions can i finish the

00:26:32.300 answer yeah yeah just let me let me revise the question yes deport most of them uh should we

00:26:37.560 completely bar like have stronger border protection yes so barring people from entering the country

00:26:42.240 illegally and then the second question of the people who have arrived here illegally who are here uh

00:26:47.240 should we just deport them um my stance is for sure have um the best border security as possible

00:26:55.180 as for the people who have been here for a long time have created businesses and um really integrated

00:27:03.320 into our society with no criminal records i think it's actually cheaper to um come up with a plan for

00:27:10.400 for them to um become legal instead of kicking them out so amnesty yeah i mean they have to pay like

00:27:18.260 if they don't a lot of them do pay taxes but back taxes and fines and um get on the list and

00:27:25.180 there definitely should be some like fines so when we get together to agree on these table issues

00:27:32.680 right yeah should we agree with you and give amnesty to these people we financially i think it's cheaper

00:27:42.280 um first of all but um would it be cheaper to not well hang on a second brian because i'm just um yeah

00:27:48.160 i think as american and democracy uh we should all work together and it's not all black or white like

00:27:55.140 the most right or to them but that's not my question my question is is like when we say we here

00:28:00.480 you know um most we vote on most people on the right yeah okay we vote on it we did we voted in

00:28:08.080 trump yeah so the thing is is like they here here's the question though the question is um should we

00:28:17.040 when you say we the collective we who are all supposed to be working hand in hand should we just

00:28:22.960 follow what you're saying and get rid or i'm sorry give amnesty to illegals um i think if you look at

00:28:29.820 um what the polls say um the majority of people aren't cool with what's happening um they think

00:28:36.920 yeah they think it went too far and it's not really we all agree law and order is necessary but

00:28:43.340 the way it's um been going about well it's amazing to me that you want the collective we to get

00:28:49.060 together to do things you want it's i think we we all want we we're all tired of the hate um

00:28:56.100 yeah i don't think that there's a collective we when you say we you just mean me okay no i'm not

00:29:01.080 i watch both left and right politics we're all talking about the same shit um that's what i get

00:29:07.080 from not picking sides completely literally the trump's poll numbers are like 37 right now all of

00:29:16.840 the podcasters obama's poll numbers were really low too all of the podcasters who help get trump

00:29:23.820 elected except for a few they all agree with what i'm saying even which ones like joe rogan um david

00:29:30.980 smith uh candace owens you think joe rogan agrees with you that ice went too far yeah he said it in

00:29:39.000 his videos really he didn't say it when i was talking to him i don't know if you've watched joe

00:29:43.780 rogan but he kind of like agrees with everybody i don't know if you've talked to joe rogan but i have

00:29:48.020 yeah i saw you talk i don't know what you're talking but no that didn't appear to be what

00:29:52.900 his position was he appeared should we pull that up he appeared to think that leftists

00:29:56.740 were part of a massive uh conspiracy and what that i saw that i watched your episode yeah so then what

00:30:03.980 are you talking about he's saying the riots did but in his previous videos he said that ice went too

00:30:10.400 far and um no he didn't actually say that and with the masks and what he said what he was his recent

00:30:17.860 video he was he was he had the conspiracy that um like it was orchestrated uh it's not a reason for

00:30:26.540 to cover up uh it's the fraud that was happening in minnesota it's not a conspiracy i mean most

00:30:33.080 stuff that's happening is funded by by different sides i agree with that but he does agree ice in

00:30:39.120 general has gone too far i don't think and trump with the way he's that's not what i heard from

00:30:44.020 him can we look it up if you want to take an out of context clip because i know the one you're

00:30:48.880 referencing no i watch every one of his episodes okay well then what was the episode called there

00:30:53.620 was multiple of them we have to go so name one of them does anyone know names of people's episodes

00:30:59.440 yes i think yes i think it was maybe a dave smith episode can we look this up internet uh i mean i don't

00:31:07.540 know if there's copyright considerations if we pull up a clip but not just that besides i'll just

00:31:12.800 i'll even grant rogan let's just say that rogan does he just rogan is all over there yeah well okay

00:31:17.020 who who else dave smith candace owens day okay dave smith's libertarian i know dave smith's a

00:31:23.340 libertarian right not a right winger at all well uh candace owens is a conspiracy nutcase literally

00:31:30.720 half your side is a conspiracy in that case joe rogan is too okay i love it most of the

00:31:36.920 conspiracies come out true um they do do they i mean to a point yeah you know what my brother said

00:31:43.440 like this pizza my brother said something really funny i'm about to get i'm about to get whatever

00:31:47.500 canceled my brother said something super funny he said that candace owen needs to get to the back of

00:31:51.920 the algorithm that's not he said that for us i yeah but anyway just to be fair i did look up your

00:32:01.420 claim about joe rogan apparently in an episode january 2026 this is an ai overview sometimes it's

00:32:08.760 incorrect but at least it does say that he joe rogan compared their tactics to the gestapo and did

00:32:16.220 suggest they went too far and then by detaining individuals including u.s citizens on the streets

00:32:21.560 without proper calls first of all i saw that episode right and in context he was having a

00:32:26.200 conversation about this with the guest he wasn't actually adopting that position that's one the

00:32:31.560 second is what he does in all of the second the second is is that uh his his position at least when

00:32:38.840 i talked to him was that he understood that hey there is definitely an orchestrated plan by leftists

00:32:46.660 in order to agitate using a math and they use a mathematical formula to do it they agitate

00:32:52.840 in order to get feds to overreact and when the feds overreact then they justify their garbage

00:32:58.660 fucking politics by saying that they're the gestapo well there's a the same thing conspiracy

00:33:04.240 on the right that if you look at project 2025 beforehand it um and yeah it kind of plans this

00:33:12.440 sort of thing using military action and stuff um well hold on before we get into project 2025

00:33:17.640 even even yeah there's the same conspiracy on the even if we were to grant look even if we're going

00:33:22.520 to go ahead and grant and say yes ice has made certain mistakes here you know law enforcement uh

00:33:28.240 law enforcement they're they're humans they make mistakes uh all lot you know in all kinds of

00:33:33.440 different professions people make mistakes law enforcement makes mistakes but in terms of their

00:33:38.320 core mission their foundational base mission which is to deport genuine illegal immigrants

00:33:43.620 do you object to their core mission i don't object to that but the one thing yeah you do you want

00:33:49.480 amnesty not not complete amnesty okay um it's a long-term um solution but another joe rogan quote was

00:33:58.160 and a lot of others said that we joe rogan's not here but i know we voted to to deport all the criminals

00:34:03.980 he's not but it's not just that it's not just him either it's joe rogan most people think we went

00:34:09.900 too far he's more of a middle of the road guy dave smith's a libertarian when you're talking about

00:34:14.820 right-wingers i want to hear i want to hear right-wingers the right-wingers who would agree with your

00:34:19.960 plan for amnesty who are they um i'm not talking by the way dave smith wouldn't agree with that plan

00:34:26.200 for amnesty either i'm not i didn't bring about i didn't talk about amnesty i said that um in general

00:34:32.680 trump's campaign was about criminals and grapists yeah but what would they never said they were

00:34:39.060 going to bring mass people these people have committed a crime by they should be deported i

00:34:43.540 get that i'm saying for yeah i'm a little confused on one hand you said i think there's a cheaper

00:34:49.760 better solution yeah deport people but um can i ask you a question really quick you say it's cheaper

00:34:55.360 do you think as far as you know having illegal immigrants in this country the only thing that

00:35:00.440 we're focused on is purely the economics of it like there's other factors too perhaps no i i agree

00:35:06.140 you don't want the white race to your argument is well it would be cheaper to like have them

00:35:11.740 create a pathway to allow them to stay here wouldn't it be technically cheaper let's say

00:35:16.060 hypothetically there was a murderer but he only commit he you know uh you have like precognition

00:35:23.020 you know that he will only have committed that one murder and he will never murder again and he

00:35:27.900 will otherwise be a law-abiding citizen uh from there on out uh you would agree that it would be

00:35:32.340 cheaper to not you know have law enforcement attempt to investigate the murder and you know

00:35:37.120 go through the criminal uh prosecution process it would be cheaper right to just let the murderer

00:35:42.760 off what i'm talking about no but answer the question oh of course it would be cheaper right

00:35:48.060 so but just because something's cheaper doesn't necessarily mean that that is the uh right course

00:35:53.860 of action well i think the right course of action is to do investigations like that on on these people

00:36:00.360 who've been here for for a long time um because like yeah that's cheaper i think what well you said

00:36:07.920 it's cheaper to let them just give them pathway to citizenship which may be true i mean it is it is

00:36:13.740 true but i think investigation and just like how you know what we should make sure that they're not

00:36:19.300 criminals and um have a good standing in society by uh entering the country illegally all the time

00:36:26.320 that's a civil crime that's not speeding is equivalent to being here illegally we would do

00:36:31.660 the same thing it's not if you're trying to save your family and your wife that's not evil law

00:36:36.760 enforcement uh does enforce speeding they'll give out speeding tickets i i actually agree with you we

00:36:43.040 would do the same thing so what yeah um the difference is i guess empathy i mean i know you

00:36:50.500 don't have empathy it's not suicidal empathy i want the majority of them to be deported that's not too

00:36:55.740 much empathy that yeah that's having some empathy so um the thing the thing here that's funny

00:37:03.360 is it's anytime you talk to both sides or they're always they're always leftist and they're always

00:37:11.420 lives and they're always like hey you know the thing is you just said that you were more on the

00:37:16.720 left side than the right side that's because of social freedom if you look at libertarians

00:37:21.280 they want social freedom and considering both sides have completely fucked our government with

00:37:27.560 spending i'm going to go more towards the dims what social what libertarians want is they want

00:37:33.360 social freedom affirmed by property rights the united states is property of the citizens of the

00:37:40.920 united states from the libertarian ethos deporting fucking people who aren't supposed to be here

00:37:47.080 would be just fine and appropriate and good that to the states to decide what if they want them to

00:37:52.080 gone or not isn't that more libertarian no to let the states decide if they want the people out or not

00:37:58.420 so here's the thing it's funny it's like okay uh so you agree that the border states those are the

00:38:07.200 ones who would take the brunt of that right and those states would basically be utilizing their

00:38:11.420 resources to protect all the states behind them the brunt of what allowing people people to vote on

00:38:17.640 people legally crossing like for instance the texas border californian border these these arizona these

00:38:24.280 are going to be states that are going to take the brunt of illegal immigration right yeah then then let them

00:38:30.140 have laws that and the government can pay for the funding to keep it secure but then how is that

00:38:35.260 it's up to the states uh to make their own laws regarding who can stay and who can who has great and

00:38:43.260 then one state says you can have complete amnesty here and then all the illegals go into that state

00:38:47.960 get amnesty and then go back to the other state that they want to go to everything in life has consequences

00:38:53.020 consequences and and when you want a smaller government they do it does does everything in

00:38:57.440 life i'm that's crazy i didn't know everything usually when people make dumb mistakes in law they

00:39:02.360 correct them we're a young nation that's how we grow yeah you do do you know how you correct this

00:39:09.040 you get rid of the illegals all of them i don't think the majority of our issues are illegal immigrants

00:39:15.220 that's what i'm trying to say illegal immigrants what are the majority of our issues

00:39:18.940 um i would say our tax trucker structure structure and um our 39 trillion dollars in debt yeah so let's

00:39:29.420 talk about our tax structure you want us to pay 90 like sanders no i think that's ridiculous how much

00:39:34.560 um i say literally just start with getting rid of the loopholes for the i i think the it's more the

00:39:44.680 corporations i think um wealthy people who like our doctors and stuff they're playing they're paying

00:39:50.020 pretty high taxes um if you look at uh so um the corporate tax rate says it's at 21 percent but um

00:39:59.480 it's actually with all the reductions and um kickbacks and stuff um averaged at 11 percent but um

00:40:08.460 if you look at the rich and it goes from poorest corporations so you want to raise taxes on

00:40:14.520 corporations get get rid of the loopholes first off that would raise their taxes yeah i think that

00:40:19.940 would make a big uh difference that would raise their taxes right okay let me ask you a question

00:40:25.960 if a corporation's making a product for you to buy which is what they're doing and you raise their

00:40:30.920 taxes what happens to the price of that product um it could go up oh it could oh i'm sorry i didn't i

00:40:39.960 wasn't aware do corporations pass on the cost of a product to the consumer yeah oh you got it

00:40:47.940 tariffs wait wait a second the tariffs are adding cost to the consumer as well wait i'm super confused

00:40:53.900 though so you want to get rid of the tariff because it's adding it's adding on cost to the consumer but

00:40:58.980 you want to raise corporate taxes which is adding cost to the consumer well brilliant plan my plans

00:41:04.060 bigger in the future um since ai is taking over and uh we're all basically gonna be jobless um

00:41:12.360 yeah i think the corporations oh yeah there needs to be an excessive wealth tax what's crazy if 10

00:41:19.380 of the uh s&p 500 pays zero corporate taxes and um yeah um a lot of them are getting money back from

00:41:30.320 the government and i think that's crazy and your brilliant time of the 1950s yeah we didn't have

00:41:37.040 this when have i ever advocated to go back to the 1950s ever i mean you've talked about it a lot on

00:41:43.920 this never happened once i mean if you look at from the 1970s and above the um the the wealth

00:41:53.500 distribution has gone from the middle class to the rich and um it's still increasing and you can see

00:42:02.240 what happened and it didn't start with reagan but yeah he did a good job getting um

00:42:08.780 so your plan is raising the prices of consumer goods that's your plan that's trump's plan too right

00:42:16.460 no um his plan was to utilize my plan is his plan was to utilize tariffs my plan is legit if you look

00:42:25.040 at graphs we're becoming poor and what you would call the epstein class keeps getting richer and

00:42:30.060 they're the ones controlling what i also call a shadow government richer not poor what are you talking

00:42:36.100 about can you look up a graph yeah all you got to do is showing the 1950s to now about wealth

00:42:42.100 distribution yeah no no it's not about wealth distribution show instead that's inflation show

00:42:47.780 instead poverty line the poverty line how do you agree with me right now that way more people are

00:42:52.300 above the poverty line they have you know how the poverty line is is created i do it's not realistic

00:42:57.740 in a world with technology and stuff like that it's that's an old school way of looking at it if you

00:43:02.860 look at it with realistic today's standards the poverty line is much higher than yeah and how many

00:43:07.100 millionaires do we have right now i don't know i'm not even worried about yeah i'm worried about

00:43:11.960 the corporations i don't i know the court you want to raise taxes on corporations thus raising prices

00:43:16.320 on consumer goods yeah yeah fine great that's probably for the better great if it takes our

00:43:22.520 country i can't wait to endorse this plan where i spend more money on things i buy you're doing that

00:43:26.820 for for tariffs no you're not doing that for tariffs tariffs don't work that way that's not the same

00:43:31.680 thing at all my bigger picture is we're about our society is going to collapse if we don't take down

00:43:38.000 the debt um and how are we going to do that we're we should lower um make this government smaller but

00:43:46.940 also we're going to need more tax revenue which that's where the corporations come in and then

00:43:51.820 once jobs are eliminated if we don't have laws put in place um like an extreme wealth tax like they had

00:43:59.760 in the 1950s then that nobody paid yeah there was loopholes some people did pay it but almost nobody

00:44:06.560 paid it just so you know did they have the excess wealth well what they had was a they had a marginal

00:44:13.960 tax so what would happen is if you reach certain threshold then they would tax x amount of that yeah

00:44:19.480 okay now you made 10 million dollars at 10 million dollars we get 90 percent of that 10th million or

00:44:24.760 whatever the average actual corporate tax rate was 41 percent if you did that right now it wouldn't

00:44:29.040 put a dent in the debt wouldn't even say we also need to make the government smaller thomas massey's

00:44:36.200 plan is to take six cents off of every and what do we what does our government spend the most money on

00:44:41.680 um our debt and the military and then it spends the most amount of money on entitlements yeah get rid

00:44:49.200 of entitlements okay so you so you want to you want to both sides it and get all the people who are

00:44:54.200 collecting social security to stop collecting social security they've paid for it i think

00:44:58.460 no that's our biggest i'm not talking about everything like every single thing i'm saying

00:45:04.480 reducing food stamps reducing stuff like that we're paying for our own retirement so i would make a law

00:45:10.800 that says people born from this date there's no longer social security um and what i would do is

00:45:17.520 we don't need a post office that's pretty so people have been paying into social security

00:45:21.400 they're now oh i don't know that's why you start now hang on now they're 59 years old they don't

00:45:25.840 get it fuck them no that's why i said we have to make this law in advance to start for people who

00:45:30.680 haven't been born yet or paid for into social security so we're going to rack up another uh 60

00:45:35.800 years of debt no um there's other forms to deduct there's yeah the post office is completely useless

00:45:45.340 um yeah we need to take money off of everything everything's going to suffer a bit but also

00:45:50.280 like doge was supposed to do we need a better system of um people who aren't connected you know

00:45:56.960 what's funny it's like i agree with you on some of the prescriptions that you have yeah right for

00:46:01.720 instance shrinking the size of government in some arenas i think is a great idea probably not the

00:46:05.400 military definitely entitlements i think the idea i think the idea of a massive corporate tax is just

00:46:11.820 going to raise consumer good prices i don't want a massive one but hang on it's just good well no

00:46:15.620 matter what you do it's going to raise consumer prices so the thing is is like even if i agree

00:46:20.120 to some of these prescriptions if we're going back to the original point now we're going to tie it back

00:46:24.380 in how the fuck are you going to get other people to agree with you on it how how are you going to get

00:46:28.940 people to give up their entitlements saying i can do it they're all voting in the interest of their

00:46:32.820 entitlements all of them the whole reason democracy doesn't work in the long term the reason that

00:46:38.860 republicanism is much better and the reason that the average person probably shouldn't vote at all

00:46:43.260 is exactly this reason because once they realize they can raid the treasury as a monolith which now

00:46:47.880 they know how how to do by voting in politicians who will raid the treasury in order to give them

00:46:53.420 entitlements democracy's fucked the second that happens it's fucked i think the left really needs to

00:46:59.420 be and i mean everyone in general needs to be more educated on more educated no i'm on uh the

00:47:06.060 financial state of our country because for so long both sides have been like oh it's whatever

00:47:11.260 we print money sort of vibes but no one really understands i don't want to educate the stupid

00:47:16.500 you can't educate them you just don't let them vote that's what you do you just stop letting stupid

00:47:22.040 fucking people vote i do agree we need like some sort of competence i don't think they should be voting

00:47:27.240 either i think there needs to be a competency test so you can understand how basic things work how

00:47:32.900 about stakeholder that would be good something like that some kind of stake in the game i don't

00:47:38.340 know about stake because poor people yeah those i'm disabled does that make me unable to vote because

00:47:45.280 if i'm poor if you're if you're it's funny it's like so you just made my point for me if you're

00:47:52.580 disabled right and you vote you're not going to vote against your own disability are you you're not

00:47:58.740 going to vote against cash for your own disability well i don't get any cash for it if you did

00:48:03.280 of course i wouldn't of course you wouldn't you're going to vote in your interest and that interest is

00:48:09.240 robbing the treasury of other people's money for you that's the problem with democracy and power blocks

00:48:15.020 and that's why your plan of both sizing all the both sizers are retarded it doesn't work in real time

00:48:20.300 i'm saying complete work work for i mean uh vote for who you want to vote for based off of whatever

00:48:26.560 values and what wants is the only thing i'm asking for people to agree on is to like i hate gavin newsom

00:48:35.200 and how everyone's calling him the president because they they watch whatever because he's the loudest and

00:48:39.980 they're like oh gavin newsom president i'm saying and but if you look at his past he's he's a corporate

00:48:45.040 like slimeball i'm just asking people to before they judge people based off of their party

00:48:50.060 look at their campaign contributions so fucking stupid they are they're willing to vote a guy

00:48:56.160 like gavin newsom into office and you think you're going to convince those people to go along with

00:49:00.960 your yeah everybody's kind of waking up to like the whole israel thing and the the deep state and

00:49:06.860 that's a completely x that's an exposition listen it's happening all over the place already israel

00:49:13.800 the support support for israel i'm just going to be completely blunt with you a lot of people don't

00:49:17.860 like hearing this but they know it's true the position of support for israel globally is still

00:49:22.960 a very popular position in fact it's much yeah you can look it up it is still a very popular position

00:49:30.800 to uh to have support of israel what you're talking about boomers not young people who are taking over

00:49:37.900 yeah but young people don't support shit they hate everything which is fair i i understand that i get it

00:49:43.880 so but what you're talking about when you're talking about the global awakening right yeah the

00:49:49.720 global awakening to do what the leftist global awakening is to well we're going to soak the

00:49:55.220 millionaires and billionaires and we're going to raise the corporate taxes and we're going to stop

00:49:58.900 these people from um taking away your your birthright by by instituting more forms of entitlements and

00:50:06.740 individual rights for abortion things like this the right-wing great awakening is we're going to

00:50:10.900 stop foreign powers from interfering in our business focus on families and remove degeneracy

00:50:16.480 they're dialectically opposed to each other yeah um not really i'm saying vote for who you want

00:50:23.120 and the thing is just take out the corporate pack money it's as simple as that see how they vote on

00:50:30.160 israel like 83 percent of people vote towards israel like vote all those fuckers out start with that

00:50:38.220 look you can get rid of the packs this has been looked at many many times okay the problem is is

00:50:44.920 that you give media then a massive upper hand no one watches no i'm you're talking about like boomers

00:50:51.240 the media like i don't know do you think that young people are voting they don't vote who votes

00:50:56.920 it's the old people who vote well they're about to yeah um not be around that much longer and what's

00:51:04.000 left now is oh man i've been hearing for 20 years the boomers are about to die out i mean i hope they're

00:51:09.380 going to be around for a long time i look things at a bigger picture of how things are going to be

00:51:13.720 swaying and how politics is going to look so what i see is yeah the only people like who watch fox and

00:51:20.460 like mainstream news are mostly some gen x but like boomers everybody else who are young are coming on to

00:51:27.700 like youtube and stuff for for sources and if you look at them everyone who's actually like

00:51:33.500 have is influence and has influence for young people they all agree with exactly what i'm saying

00:51:41.060 and they're telling other people they don't yeah no they do about the packs the problem is you're

00:51:46.880 right people do switch over to online now instead of uh old media they do and you know who else they

00:51:53.180 see there they're not seeing like a base chad right wingers they're seeing hassan piker they're

00:51:57.760 seeing destiny they're seeing all these left-wing scumbags who are pushing their left-wing message

00:52:03.180 and guess what that poisonous message that's worked it's worked well yeah and you act like this dialectic

00:52:09.520 just doesn't exist because you wish it didn't but it does i literally watch all of them there's

00:52:13.560 something changing in politics like um everyone's realizing we're not we're not each other's enemies like

00:52:20.480 let's say uh i know you're not i watch both like the opposite i watch it's like the opposite yeah

00:52:27.040 because you're realizing everyone's evil side uh like tucker carlson had the dude on that um from

00:52:34.580 the young turks with them with them there's even a website where you can go sign up yeah um just

00:52:42.580 promoting the site to where we can all make a pack to end the pack sort of vibes um and yeah thank you

00:52:49.740 sankiger has been on the uh end money in politics train for an awful long time it's really funny

00:52:56.940 though because a lot of that comes from sankiger focusing on the fact that he was a media talking

00:53:01.460 head who is very important people and they a lot of these guys thought that if you got rid of pack

00:53:07.020 money that they would be able to utilize media like they did the original time donald trump ran

00:53:11.440 where they use media to try to demonize him run the steel dossier run conspiracy theories about him

00:53:17.480 you do give media an upper hand i agree i hate the fact that there's packs in politics i do but the

00:53:23.660 fact of the matter is is that media is so fucking corrupt you can't trust them either well um that's

00:53:29.560 why i also advocate for people to fact check and young people are people are realizing that people

00:53:36.620 young people are dumber now that they've ever been yes that's why i would agree that they

00:53:41.060 that's why i would agree that we should raise the voting rate age but to what um maybe like 25 or

00:53:50.780 something how about how about instead of raising the voting age you put in a restriction like got

00:53:54.020 to be married and have kids that's the whole christian nationals thing what's wrong with that

00:53:57.980 the majority of the country is christian technically but i don't think even they would want that why not

00:54:06.860 you're kind of like a good idea you're kind of eliminating like your strength in the vote if you

00:54:12.940 do that right why how because if you and your wife both vote for the person you want if you're

00:54:19.060 eliminating it then you only get one vote instead of two people with families and kids are going to

00:54:24.800 be more aligned with my ideology yeah but you're still going to lose if you implement does that make

00:54:29.820 you higher likely to lose no maybe make you a higher likelihood to win if the people who vote are more

00:54:34.640 aligned with your ideology no because there's a lot of leftists right who don't have families

00:54:40.560 because they kill their kids you said married you didn't say you can only i said married with kids

00:54:46.320 you have a family yeah well why don't you do one household voting something like you don't even have

00:54:51.860 to do that i'm just saying that anything that has stake in the nation is going to be better

00:54:55.600 than this dumb idea that just everybody should be enfranchised our founders didn't want that they

00:55:01.360 hated it they hated the idea that everybody would be enfranchised they didn't want

00:55:04.500 anything to do with that well the founding fathers also um yeah gave us the way to amend the

00:55:11.540 constitution because they understood that they didn't have all the answers and society would

00:55:15.940 change they didn't want it amended so that everybody could vote i could tell you that well they put that

00:55:21.000 ability in and this is where society that was interpreted by the way but the thing is it's funny

00:55:25.820 about everything's an interpretation yeah the thing that's funny about this is like no they were they had

00:55:30.660 no intention they didn't trust the electorate because they thought they were stupid and they

00:55:33.920 were right well times haven't changed in that regard but they haven't um yeah i i would i don't

00:55:43.180 think it yeah that's the whole christian nationalist thing i don't agree with that's not even christian

00:55:47.260 nationalist um a lot of people can't have kids so did i put the restriction you had to be a christian

00:55:51.500 no a lot of people can't have kids so why fuck them why do they get to vote what makes it a right

00:55:57.340 that people have like oh you get to vote just because you exist like that's the stupid position

00:56:03.000 that's the constitution no it's not currently currently yes it is it was never intended

00:56:10.080 for to have a vote it was never intended for everybody to vote ever never what they did intend to

00:56:16.820 do was uh give us the option to change it um and we have that option so if you want to take away that

00:56:22.840 right let's do a um uh whatever it's called the um conservation i thought you just got done saying

00:56:29.680 you like the 10th amendment huh so why don't you just leave voting restrictions up to the state

00:56:34.380 like we used to so then the state right the state can actually put in the representatives instead of you

00:56:40.840 doesn't that sound better i mean like i'm not completely opposed to that except that i would

00:56:46.620 kind of make different like completely the united states wouldn't be very united anymore and we'd all

00:56:52.600 just live it's not united now and your world view no just not it's just not united i don't i don't know

00:56:59.980 i don't know if you know that this state that we're in right now is like a whole different universe

00:57:05.140 than the state that i currently live in it's like a whole different world but um basically i think we

00:57:11.520 should do a competency test i don't think you i mean there's smart people who aren't married um

00:57:20.120 or with kids i think that's kind of fucked up to not let them vote why where's this idea that

00:57:27.160 everybody should have the right to vote come from because our current constitution didn't come from our

00:57:31.820 founders yeah but what are you basing fathers what are you a whole different world what are you even

00:57:35.720 basing it on though forget the constitution for a second what from your view actually makes it

00:57:40.280 something that you think is right that everybody should be able to vote what like my value set aside

00:57:47.620 like yeah what part of your value sets demanding that um like god jesus god would demand that everyone

00:57:54.620 could vote no um uh not god would demand not yeah being fair to everybody and um what like jesus would

00:58:06.760 jesus would demand that everyone could vote no none of them would demand anything because they don't get

00:58:11.800 into politics right but what they do what jesus does advocate for is um groups that are um seen as

00:58:21.120 outcast the poor that people should be charitable towards those groups not that they should have a

00:58:26.360 say in policy but did he say they should though no that that would make my point yeah um what what is the

00:58:34.780 value set that you're appealing to that just makes you think everyone should be able to vote what

00:58:38.860 what jesus's words himself what words what words of jesus christ makes you think that everybody

00:58:45.040 should be your neighbor you can you you have to hate your neighbor if they can't vote and yeah um

00:58:51.540 be kind to the yeah be kind to um yeah sorry i'm i'm bleak be kind to um foreigners there's all kinds

00:59:00.160 of things okay so you can be kind of foreigners and be nice to your neighbor and they don't have to

00:59:04.780 vote peacemakers great the peacemakers can be blessed and they still don't have to vote i don't

00:59:10.580 understand where is this they need to vote part come in because i don't i think we all should be

00:59:17.040 equal like in in that right oh we should just all be equal yeah if you can pass the test that makes

00:59:23.100 you qualified yeah why why is it though again you you see how you you uh intersuppose immediately

00:59:30.940 that they should without appealing to the constitution there's things in the constitution take the

00:59:36.360 constitution out of it so i did that's what i'm doing i'm still asking you the same question if

00:59:41.640 we have the constitution out of it right then why what appeal are you making that people should be

00:59:49.200 able to do this what what what is the ethical dilemma here you can't vote and that's unethical because

00:59:57.660 this is how i put it like yeah um my spiritual beliefs lead me to that conclusion what in your

01:00:15.640 spiritual beliefs lead you to the conclusion that it's unethical if guy a is not allowed to vote

01:00:21.800 what we all whether you're atheist or not yeah have been put on a path okay from god right and you

01:00:33.060 choose to make good and bad decisions right that's free will and yeah i think this whole christian

01:00:39.540 nationalist thing is trying to control what decisions people make which is against god this

01:00:44.900 literally doesn't answer my question repeat it sorry i will start again i kind of blame not appealing to

01:00:49.160 the constitution we're just purely appealing i knew where i was going with your christian ethical

01:00:53.360 system why from the christian standpoint is it unethical if some guy can't vote or some girl we

01:00:59.340 all have like god's energy in us that tells us what's right and what's wrong whether we realize it or not

01:01:06.140 and we all have that and um my yeah my heart says that it's wrong so i mean you can agree

01:01:14.040 differently but that's literally that's where the constitution you're just appealing to your intuition

01:01:19.020 yeah that's where the constitution comes in if you want to change it hang on hang on i just want to

01:01:23.560 make sure i got this right the reason it's unethical to not let people vote from your view is because

01:01:30.000 your heart tells you it is there's right and wrong that's how our constitution is formed by

01:01:34.920 the majority of people saying what's right and wrong help me out here help me out here if my intuition

01:01:41.200 right and i make the same exact appeal because god puts on your heart what is right and wrong

01:01:46.680 i think it's wrong to let people vote well why am i wrong and you're right i didn't say you were

01:01:52.540 wrong yeah but we're appealing now to ethics so why is my ethics in this this case inferior to your own

01:01:58.280 i never said it was inferior that's so then what i'm doing is just as ethical as what you're doing

01:02:03.060 in your own opinion no in your opinion i'm not asking about in my opinion i'm asking about your

01:02:10.400 opinion i would say no why it's based off of faith plus what's in store in the constitution if we

01:02:19.560 want to go change that we're just talking about ethics well ethics is based off of what the whole

01:02:24.880 united states decides decides so are you christian without the constitution constitution's gone

01:02:30.280 tomorrow you're still appealing to the same set of ethics right um yeah i mean i call myself a

01:02:36.440 follower jesus not not okay fine but if the constitution's gone tomorrow your ethics remain

01:02:40.420 the same yeah okay great then we don't need the constitution to make an appeal to your ethical

01:02:44.380 system so in your ethical system why does everyone need to vote if we don't have the constitution there

01:02:50.380 is no voting and you can still vote what do you mean you can vote without the constitution there's all

01:02:55.220 sorts of countries that don't have constitutions well i mean what i would do is just get out

01:02:59.500 like i mean i would that's not my question my question isn't would you leave my question is

01:03:05.420 what would make it unethical i didn't say it would be unethical so it's not unethical then for christian

01:03:10.980 nationalists to try to push for people not to vote um yeah i mean it's not unethical because in your

01:03:16.940 framework okay that's that's how you see it but that's why i like the constitution what's that i'm

01:03:23.500 asking from your framework i know how i see it i'm asking from your framework how could the

01:03:30.000 christian nationalists be wrong if you're just saying that the appeal to your ethical system

01:03:35.220 if the constitution wasn't there would be exactly the same and you can't tell me why it would be

01:03:39.720 unethical at all hang on why it would be unethical at all for christian nationalists to say you can't

01:03:44.620 fucking vote i think taking take you're putting power upon yourselves instead of leaving it to god

01:03:51.740 like um and you're taking away god's plan god's path how is voting not that but if you're taking

01:03:58.600 yeah that's what if you what okay let me think about this sorry my brain is um voting is doing

01:04:05.860 exactly the same thing somewhere yeah um we all there's i'm not saying there's anything wrong with

01:04:14.040 it that's what i'm saying i believe in the constitution and i believe in jesus's words and i think christian

01:04:20.180 nationalist goes against jesus's words that's why it's unethical wait this is super weird to me

01:04:26.720 because you said that christian nationalists by taking people's right to vote away would be doing

01:04:31.400 something unethical because of the appeal to your ethics and when you appeal to your ethics you say

01:04:36.620 the thing is is that that would be restricting free will instead of putting it in god's hands

01:04:40.060 but then when i point out the contradiction of you wanting people to vote which does the exact same

01:04:44.020 thing you just went oh that's a society i think god should be left out of it church and state

01:04:49.780 separation of church and state dude that's why i'm against christian nationalism you shouldn't

01:04:55.460 nationalize christianity so what a part what about your ethics says that you you need to separate

01:05:01.460 church and state because of the way jesus talked about um the government and oh tell me how he talked

01:05:09.360 about the government can i look it up i i need some caffeine okay well you do that i'll have a smoke

01:05:14.640 okay um uh okay i you need caffeine i have a few minutes i don't want to leave the podcast

01:05:22.100 my brain is just well i mean i'll i'll engage you on this a little bit because some of your the reason

01:05:26.840 i'm even not doing this as a 1v1 much of the criticisms that you sent us were uh directed at me

01:05:35.260 directed at the podcast uh you for example wrote uh you wrote that you thought that we were

01:05:44.600 down to bring on people with opposing views yeah and you you this is about the james tallarico thing

01:05:50.080 this is about james tallarico that's the whole reason i was mad at you is because

01:05:54.000 for like a year almost i kept trying to get it wasn't a year like six months maybe since i started

01:06:01.200 bringing it up that's why i got mad at you it's because you told me to find people who i thought

01:06:06.600 were worthy to bring on the show and then i kept bringing it bringing up james tallarico why are you

01:06:09.940 doing a quote when that i'm pretty sure that's not what that it we can go into the episode because

01:06:14.580 i was saying because you were telling me to recruit people because i didn't think it wasn't up to my

01:06:19.240 you said find people up to my standards of who should be on the show you said that on the episode

01:06:24.080 on the episode or in that i was on the episodes that i was on but the people can look it up and i said

01:06:30.040 fine and i did um and then you were ignoring it that's why i was i was mad yeah you i mean okay

01:06:39.480 but you you wrote scared to be called out on i i was trying to um appeal to

01:06:47.160 yeah you weren't answering me so i was trying to yeah i'm i'm managing often i'm juggling

01:06:53.780 oftentimes hundreds of different dms we already we already had you on uh two shows we had you on a

01:07:00.940 dating talk panel and then we had you on uh a sort of very other similarly informal uh debate

01:07:09.460 you kind of crashed the debate there's some other girls there uh frankly i mean based off of how

01:07:17.420 this debate is going and your performance in the previous debates you're i'm almost somewhat

01:07:24.380 regretting having booked this your performance was quite poor on the dating talk your performance

01:07:30.500 was poor your performance is poor tonight you're all over the place i've never been in a debate

01:07:36.260 i'm incoherent well then why are you asking to if you're not a good debater why are you i i'm here

01:07:41.700 for a bigger purpose is to talk to the people who actually understand what i'm saying and you're

01:07:46.420 asking are tired of the hate tired well we'll get into that which is part of the reason i'm sitting

01:07:51.860 here on the panel here on the show yeah but i mean look look it improved a little bit but the

01:07:57.500 first 10-15 minutes of this debate oh boy that was that was rough i i kind of i almost wanted to

01:08:03.320 apologize to andrew for you know look hey andrew's andrew's uh he's a bsd what is that don't worry

01:08:12.820 about it but but i feel like i got a i felt bad for andrew i'm like man you came all this way we've

01:08:17.460 got another debate for him tomorrow by the way guys those of you who are watching the stream

01:08:21.060 andrew will be debating not so erudite erudite uh tomorrow at about i think we're aiming to go live

01:08:28.120 at 3 30 p.m so given our 3 3 45 but 3 3 30 we're trying to go live 3 30 p.m tomorrow with erudite

01:08:37.920 and uh so we do have another debate tomorrow andrew will be here for our dating talk panel

01:08:42.840 on sunday guys if you're enjoying the stream um can you go over to uh twitch can you pull up the

01:08:48.540 window over there nathan show us the twitch window make sure nothing else is uh being shown

01:08:52.620 actually it doesn't matter wait hold on hold on a sec we gotta wait actually you know what hold on

01:08:57.120 hold off on that um you said and hold on you said i did bad on the dating podcast i had like

01:09:03.700 so many people in my inbox talking about how like okay y'all did me dirty and only fans girls will say

01:09:10.080 i'm a 10 because so many guys buy my only fans i agree with that stop the woman could be morbidly

01:09:17.000 obese and not attractive and still have men like saying this so in any case what do you mean i agree

01:09:23.400 with you i'm like the majority of that shit i don't know what you're talking about that's besides

01:09:28.640 the point uh you wrote that don't don't this is what you said i never agreed to you going into

01:09:34.780 my dms and what i never i i told you ahead of time like i wasn't cool with you going into all my dms

01:09:41.620 and talking about everything we've talked about right before we started when right before we started

01:09:47.200 whoa so so just to be clear we agreed to do this debate a long time ago yeah and five minutes

01:09:56.880 before the debate starts the messages that you sent to me on instagram they're not fair game that's

01:10:04.260 ridiculous everything that you write i'll show you the message right no you don't no no don't pull it

01:10:09.860 up because no don't don't show anything on fucking camera i'm not gonna show it on camera put your phone

01:10:15.340 down you're not gonna show the messages i have the messages i know but literally today i said what

01:10:20.940 are um i was like the prompts that you sent yeah and i sent this to you yesterday your criticisms of

01:10:26.980 the whatever podcast you didn't send me i'll look at it right now i literally said that i literally

01:10:30.820 sent that to you yesterday criticisms you resent me like my further points before that which were the

01:10:37.600 exact same things that i had prompts the only reason i'm sitting here and it's not a 1v1 is because

01:10:42.520 you explicitly said that you want to debate me and andrew i would have been happy to have this be a

01:10:47.500 1v1 that's how most of the debates are but you i didn't know i was debating you i thought it was

01:10:53.360 just me andrew you i could show you the message i changed my mind over and over again i i literally

01:10:58.440 just told you less bipolar i don't know what to fucking tell you dude what happened do you want me

01:11:03.560 to explain what happened i'm using bipolar in a not a literal sense that you're actually diagnosed

01:11:08.120 i i realize you're not bad when you're like literally not agitated with like

01:11:13.440 you're kind of mean sometimes when y'all y'all were mad listen let me finish this y'all were mad

01:11:21.240 because the crazy fuckers and like jerry springer was in the room i was first chair hold on i'm not

01:11:27.360 interesting in having i realize i'm not stop i'm not interested against you i mean stop i'm not

01:11:32.640 interested in having a meta conversation about a podcast we did a year ago that's irrelevant

01:11:37.280 what you wrote me since your last appearance was a direct request to debate you literally said i want

01:11:43.280 to debate andrew and you that was to which you write okay well we're we're here now prove you

01:11:50.040 you wrote prove that i'm just a dumb woman like you treated me on the show with a real debate prove

01:11:55.180 that 140 iq girl as you labeled me as an idiot now here's i guess where we can get into some

01:12:00.900 substance in terms of disagreement or debate you wrote i'm mad y'all and when you say y'all you're

01:12:07.780 referring to me and me and andrew helped with the division in this country yeah and then in addition

01:12:14.360 there's a lot you wrote it's it's a little you sent me a fucking novel uh and talk shit about you

01:12:20.240 you wanted to talk shit about us profiting from the division of this nation so there's two things here

01:12:25.000 there's the assertion that me and andrew have divided hold on stop stop stop if you want to get

01:12:30.240 i literally asked you and through the text you said we're not going to go through any of this i

01:12:34.700 never i literally never said that the text right now you can't show it on screen but you can read

01:12:40.200 it you can read it so you wrote i asked if if everything i've ever said to you was fair game

01:12:46.580 and you said no okay what are you talking i'll show you literally right now i have it on my phone

01:12:52.120 too but i'll know why we need to get into the med because you're literally going against what we just

01:12:55.980 talked about yesterday what are you talking about i asked what was going to be included in the debate

01:13:02.460 the prompts and then i said plus then i asked you what would be involved in those criticisms

01:13:09.260 then you sent my older prompts which literally had none of this in there so i never made you a promise

01:13:16.180 that your criticisms would be excluded furthermore i just asked you about that because i didn't want

01:13:21.920 you to go through all my messages and i never agreed to debate you you asked to debate me

01:13:27.420 otherwise i changed it over and over again andrew comes on and does 1v1 debates you specifically asked

01:13:34.040 for the for to debate i want here's what you wrote i want to debate andrew and you that was i'm mad

01:13:40.300 my messages after i said i realized you're cool and i have nothing against you okay so regardless of

01:13:46.340 that now we're i want to move away from the meta conversation this is on the this is on the table

01:13:51.060 we're going to discuss it i don't know why you can't well i need a break because i asked you ahead

01:13:56.820 of time what we're going to be talking about and i asked well i've blabbered a lot to you what's going

01:14:01.100 to be included and then you sent your old prompts and and you said i sent the prompts and then i said

01:14:05.820 plus your criticisms did i not and i said what critics i asked what criticisms i've said a lot to you

01:14:11.740 and then let me find what it says are you uncomfortable defending your previous statements

01:14:16.420 that because they have changed my opinion changed remember after that did i not say you did a good

01:14:21.560 that um that i have to admit that you're pretty based uh this last episode and then i told you i

01:14:28.220 realized what my issue uh with you was i told you then then if that is the way you act when andrew

01:14:35.680 is way different um when he's not around on your episodes i told you that was the reason i figured

01:14:42.760 out why i have a problem and i told you exactly why and that was like a couple weeks ago i'm trying

01:14:47.960 to it's all andrew's fault you're right everything's your fault andrew man is objective man bad smoky

01:14:53.080 man bad yeah i need you to take a break and okay then take a break then we'll then we'll dive right

01:14:58.000 back into it yeah why don't you why don't you read to them that i said like after that that you're cool

01:15:04.300 and i like i'm glad you're not being fake and i said all that shit well yeah but i think you can

01:15:09.880 say that and then the things that you said prior to that are still no i i had those here there you

01:15:17.060 said you need caffeine nathan can assist you with getting you but i didn't come here to talk about

01:15:23.360 like the whatever pockets at all like yeah that was literally within oh my god it's included

01:15:30.700 things change not yeah the new prompts the new prompts because we didn't have any prompts left

01:15:38.020 you asked me to make prompts to send to andrew your communication style is so incoherent

01:15:43.940 this is all throughout like a year shut up that one day it's brian i want to debate you and you're

01:15:49.840 terrible person and the next day actually brian i'm cool with you i never said you i never said you're

01:15:55.340 terrible person i just wanted to know what you believe in because you don't always say what you

01:15:59.540 believe in i'm just curious why are you so defensive about like going into some of the things that you

01:16:04.340 previously said because like i literally asked you ahead of time and opinions change and my opinion

01:16:09.380 change okay so if it is the case i told you i was mad because of the james tallarico thing if i bring

01:16:14.240 something up and you're like you know what brian actually changed my mind on it then i'll complete i'll

01:16:18.520 move on why don't you go ahead and take your break though well yeah read them the last thing i said

01:16:22.800 that you're actually pretty based as i said that a few weeks ago or something okay take a break take

01:16:29.880 a break get some get some oh my god don't yeah that that's the

01:16:38.140 uh we have some chats coming through here uh you know maybe i should wait till everybody's back at the

01:16:45.860 table uh so uh andrew how you been man how's it going i've been good i'm a lot of travel

01:16:52.780 working on some big projects for the crucible we got something extra special coming up that's top

01:16:57.640 secret but uh i think it's going to shock a lot of people it's going to be pretty amazing

01:17:01.980 um and that's happening at the near the end of the month glad to be back on whatever with all of you

01:17:09.520 um i know that there's tons of people in whatever audience who don't like me and there's tons of people

01:17:15.680 who do but even to those who hate me you missed me right you missed me admit it you missed me

01:17:23.040 by the way a lot of that exchange just so you know these aren't attributed to positions i have that was

01:17:29.300 for for those of you who are slow boys out in the whatever audience the crucible doesn't have this

01:17:35.140 problem but some of you in the whatever audience do most of you don't but some of you do that's called

01:17:39.320 an internal critique that's me critiquing the position because it's incoherent so um i know

01:17:47.120 that what'll happen is many of you stupid people are going to be like andrew believes x when that

01:17:53.020 has nothing to do with what just happened what just happened was an internal criticism of somebody's

01:17:57.920 incoherent positions so that's that that's how you debate so anyway just saying pain donated 100

01:18:05.120 dollars i ran an analysis over her body language and here's the result posture equals slouching

01:18:11.960 confidence equals nervous engagement equals disengaged expression equals negative eye gaze

01:18:19.160 equals averted smile equals none uh thank you very much william payne for that i must have had the

01:18:27.100 tts threshold lower doesn't really matter i would have just read it anyways thank you for the message

01:18:31.440 there via streamlabs.com hey uh nathan can you pull up twitch uh show us twitch here if you can

01:18:38.320 go the window tab by the way some of the whatever regulars including the mods how you guys doing

01:18:46.020 um i've been popping into the chat here and there and saying hello to you guys during the dating talks

01:18:51.440 this kind of thing and i'm kind of glad to be back on the whatever stomping grounds we got some good

01:18:56.720 debates lined up and some good dating panels so those should be good uh guys if you're watching

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01:19:05.940 it and guys thank you for the uh super chats thank you for the support guys if you're enjoying the

01:19:10.280 stream like the video she's going to be returning here in just a moment but guys like the video

01:19:15.640 also debate university.com we'll do a little shout out for that uh in a little bit

01:19:20.680 200 is the can i respond to whatever that tds was i mean no we're just gonna move on so

01:19:27.180 everyone gets to respond i mean it was below the threshold anyways okay go ahead and make

01:19:31.440 your quick response please well yeah okay i slouched because i have rods down my entire back i'm not

01:19:37.420 smiling because here you go smiling if it was a positive conversation i'd smile i slouched because of

01:19:42.640 hell divers too because i'm like fucking the bugs sometimes the fascist bugs come out i don't think

01:19:49.020 you're a fascist no no i'm saying the bugs are fascist and when they come out for the purpose of

01:19:55.400 democracy for managed democracy we have to destroy them and so that's what we do and so i ended up

01:20:02.740 with a slouch okay all right so you're trying to destroy democracy is that what i get what okay uh

01:20:08.620 so again going back to this you said you wrote that i okay yeah do you want to allow me to like

01:20:16.660 finish a sentence before you okay i i didn't quip yeah sure but i didn't agree to any of this

01:20:23.140 what you didn't it's this i asked you ahead of time you literally didn't i asked you what was fair

01:20:29.520 can what i'll know why you're you're doing this thing where you're you're you're attempting to delay

01:20:34.720 uh what really should be what you want no but i asked what was fair game because i've and then you

01:20:41.300 sent me the the prop because i was like what are my disagreements and i asked you and then you said

01:20:46.380 and then you sent the um look it up we just talked about it i mean do you want to do you want to just

01:20:52.140 fucking leave is that what you want to do i don't want to leave why are y'all getting so mad because

01:20:57.020 you've been you've been attempting to delay the continuance of this conversation because i didn't agree

01:21:04.240 to it you literally did you asked yourself how how could you possibly how can you on one hand send

01:21:12.220 me a message that says i want to debate andrew and you and here's all the things i disagree with

01:21:16.520 you about if you look back at it i just kept and then you can't you can't do a thing where five

01:21:21.740 minutes before the debate starts five minutes before you literally said rewind the tape you're

01:21:25.640 like brian when we sat down here i said i don't want to talk about that no sorry it's on the table

01:21:30.500 no okay can you if you let me explain my side of that of what happened you don't remember all of

01:21:36.200 the messages because you get a hundred of them a day right i do remember the messages can you stop

01:21:41.260 with the meta conversation i know you want to delay here because it's going to make you look

01:21:45.240 fucking terrible maybe that's why you want to delay it but in any case i think it's fair game

01:21:50.900 it's completely fair game and perhaps you don't want to pull it up now because you maybe you're not

01:21:56.560 prepared to even defend the words that came out of your own mouth like i said we can we can pull up

01:22:04.080 the text um i are the first i wanted to do a two baron thank you listen this is how i will explain it

01:22:11.440 i wanted to debate you two or even you on your own because thank you baron i noticed during the

01:22:17.440 episodes you don't like tend to answer a lot of questions you ask people questions um and you you

01:22:23.440 put his point of view on so my point my thing at the time was i want to learn more about you

01:22:29.640 it had nothing to do with with i wanted to know your exact stance on things because you don't always

01:22:34.720 give out the answers to what you actually believe in that's the only reason why i said that but then

01:22:39.960 i said we then we talked about me being on the panel and and um that would be okay but then i said

01:22:47.360 oh shit um then i changed it to just andrew because i have shit to say about him say uh to him is what

01:22:56.760 i said i remember the messages because i don't get a thousand of them and and then we stopped talking

01:23:02.900 forever and i said i want to debate um because of like the world issue with epstein and all the

01:23:10.140 corruption um and that's why i'm here now it's for a broader message um that literally has nothing

01:23:18.580 to do with the whatever podcast i know i'm not great at debate um he's one of the best he's very

01:23:24.960 smart he has a lot of good talking points that my bigger mission here i don't care if i win a debate

01:23:30.840 i'm obviously um i'm here uh to like i said at the beginning we need to just agree on making sure

01:23:41.560 we vote for people who are as least corrupt as possible so as recently as wednesday at uh it looks

01:23:48.740 like it's 6 p.m so this is like basically 24 hours ago uh hold on wednesday no excuse me

01:24:00.700 wednesday at 7 36 p.m so 24 hours ago uh andrew wants to do uh prompts one three five six of the

01:24:11.640 prompts you sent plus your previously stated criticisms and then i asked what what the ones

01:24:19.900 that you sent and then message yeah and then what does it say after that when i asked what

01:24:24.880 so so even if there was lacking of communication even if it even if it's from

01:24:30.360 both our sides yeah what would be your actual objection to getting into other topics um i

01:24:37.700 agreed to get into other topics but for example my views changed on you once i watched more episodes

01:24:43.240 so i don't know what you're even finding i agree there are it is a lot of good that comes out of

01:24:47.960 the podcast but there's also a lot of why are you trying to stop it ahead of time preemptively

01:24:53.880 because i didn't agree to it like i thought let me go through the stated criticisms and perhaps some

01:24:59.560 of them are still valid if they're not still valid and you say changed then i suppose that we don't

01:25:05.460 have to engage there but are you just going to continue i what's the term in congress where they

01:25:11.020 don't let anybody else talk are you just going to continue filibustering or can i actually start to

01:25:15.800 get through it it's been 30 minutes of prattling and you delay delay delay why don't i just get

01:25:20.360 through it that's not actually what the term is in congress but oh that that's not what a

01:25:24.340 filibuster is but i call it a filibuster okay i mean go for it but i didn't agree to it let's go

01:25:29.760 let's go let's go it's not that you didn't again i will repeat you said you wanted to debate me and

01:25:37.920 andrew and then you listed all these things okay in any case my intent changed i'm just gonna get

01:25:42.820 right into it i'm just gonna get right into it you wrote that i'm mad y'all helped with a division

01:25:47.120 in this country uh and then you wanted to talk about how we're profiting from the division

01:25:52.020 of this nation so i guess first how am i how is andrew uh helping with the division in the country

01:26:00.160 um i would say that um calling like just how you called me a feminist what did you say i was

01:26:12.140 feminist leftist hater 140 iq yeah i mean you're kind of labeling that that would be and then and

01:26:21.000 then you only bring on certain types of i mean not only but and then you clip the majority of what

01:26:27.120 people see are clips right that could get um that get shown and you don't they don't watch the full

01:26:34.760 episode so so labeling is and no this isn't about you it's about him what if the label is the way he

01:26:44.420 who andrew yeah it's the way he talks to people on the show and laughs at them and he continuously

01:26:50.380 talks about like instead of fixing the laws that make it fucked up to that men have to to serve

01:26:58.060 against their will like let's change the laws but he always talks about taking away women's rights to

01:27:03.860 vote instead of like hey let's change up the fuck up fucked up law and then he said that women are

01:27:10.020 more prone to propaganda you said something about their period and um it was like a conversation about

01:27:17.460 women and leadership um that was a pierce morgan episode you brought like uh periods up and stuff like

01:27:23.980 um yeah i've since the like the show i have had a lot of people in my dms and they were all

01:27:33.820 very nice they were all very nice um but then they would say stuff like i don't think women should

01:27:40.300 have the right to vote and i'm and i think that is making the male loneliness epidemic worse because

01:27:47.160 if you look at the stats um statistically um more women are liberal and um yeah and you're making

01:27:58.760 yeah the way you talk about the sexes and women do this too which i would like for it to stop um is

01:28:06.780 mostly on his side can be very uh i would i would call it toxic um and yeah i i and so and then also

01:28:18.380 gives guys confidence when they go in my dms trying to date me and then like tell me while they're trying

01:28:25.880 to hang out with someone um like yeah that they want to take away my right to vote is you know

01:28:33.660 it kind of it's that kind of takes away men who want to date you want to take that it kind of it

01:28:39.180 kind of takes away um their game in in a sense if how would you know you've given them a lot of

01:28:45.240 confidence to say that whoa whoa wait hold on really quick absent them who are these fucking

01:28:50.560 base chads by the way that's the most base shit i ever heard hey baby you want to go out by the way

01:28:55.440 you should be able to fucking vote that's fucking what what the fuck what are you guys doing what

01:29:00.940 are you doing i'm just saying you're making your chances of getting laid hold on or in a relationship

01:29:05.880 far less you can't fuck me if i can't vote yeah i would say that that's i would say that's a good

01:29:13.540 idea ladies yeah she's gonna lock your legs up i don't fuck anyway that'll teach the christian

01:29:20.740 nationalists the women are all gonna stop being skanks if you don't let them vote

01:29:24.480 so i mean really quick just on this point really quick on this point uh absence absent that these

01:29:33.740 people disclosing that they're viewers of the podcast how could you even come to the determination

01:29:38.400 that it's even my viewers that are sliding into your dms trying to hit on you they said they saw me

01:29:45.860 on the podcast like a year ago i've still get dms i've been getting dms well i mean really quick my

01:29:52.060 position on this so you're saying some of these men are in favor of repealing the 19th yeah i mean

01:29:56.540 my position on this is i just don't think that's a good way to to you know if you're trying to date

01:30:00.640 someone yeah i think talking probably like if you're trying to flirt with somebody don't do that

01:30:04.680 getting into politics but it's the show that gave them the confidence to say that is what i'm saying

01:30:10.000 well hold on um really quick on the the question of the 19th that sounds like togetherness to me

01:30:16.060 instead of division the bros togetherly being alone sounds like together i think we're all lonely

01:30:22.620 lonelier sorry what were you gonna say yeah so on the topic of the 19th i mean me personally this is

01:30:29.960 more so uh something andrew has talked about although my understanding of andrew's position on this is

01:30:35.060 he wants to pretty much claw back the voting rights from both men and women correct uh so but as it

01:30:42.020 relates specifically to the 19th and women's access to the vote my opinion on this has perhaps evolved

01:30:47.820 to some degree uh currently in order for men to have access to the vote i know they have to register

01:30:53.540 for the selective service they are subject to forced military conscription uh in a way that women are not

01:31:00.240 this would they should be too shut up please you no no like i've i've asked you to not interrupt

01:31:06.180 multiple times i apologize i shouldn't have done but like can you stop interrupting please

01:31:10.760 i'm trying to get through a thought here without with you know at least go for 10 20 seconds without

01:31:16.260 being interrupted i apologize it was rude yeah i just know what you're gonna say already she knows

01:31:22.320 what okay tell me what i'm gonna say then you the same thing y'all say is that it's it's not fair for

01:31:28.160 for men um that they have to do that for the right to vote um so my position i agree it's not fair

01:31:35.580 okay but my position is as follows so perhaps i'm not quite as hard-line as andrew on this i i'm

01:31:42.560 actually perhaps in some ways you might even label me even more of a feminist than actual feminist

01:31:47.000 even more so than yourself perhaps i'm more of an egalitarian uh the current status quo is in order

01:31:52.580 for men to have access to the right to vote they have to register with the selective service i believe

01:31:57.260 the first step before revoking women's right to vote is we ought to equalize this uh requirement

01:32:03.400 women ought to have to register with the selective service uh and then of course women should keep

01:32:09.120 their right to vote however if we're not gonna have a serious conversation about equalizing this

01:32:13.960 then i'm actually if if we are if we make a determination that is you know what the current

01:32:20.340 status quo remains men have to continue registering for the selective service men exclusively have to

01:32:27.420 be uh the exclusive subjects of military conscription then under this uh under this landscape uh and if

01:32:37.040 it's a final determination no women will never be subject to military conscription then we should have

01:32:42.100 a serious conversation about either repealing the 19th or perhaps we can have the power of women's vote so

01:32:48.720 they get half the power of a man's vote that would be my position i agree for the majority of that i mean

01:32:55.020 i i think uh i mean i don't think anyone should have to do that especially with ai technology and stuff

01:33:02.260 coming out it's probably unnecessary but either get rid of that all together or women should have to

01:33:08.800 do the same um yeah um okay those are my two options is that um yeah okay i don't think anyone

01:33:20.000 should be forced to do that for the right to vote um but if we can't change that yeah give give women

01:33:26.700 drones and shit like can i ask you a question uh i guess moving off the draft thing is uh this the

01:33:32.620 system the current political system as is isn't it divisive inherently so if you have republicans

01:33:39.740 and democrats isn't that already divisive two people want two groups of people want different

01:33:44.280 things i i would also change um change it from a two-party system because the way there is a two

01:33:51.100 yeah the two-party system kind of forces us to to be divisive when 47 percent of people consider

01:33:57.600 themselves an independent and with all these corporate uh people that yeah the the corporate um

01:34:05.760 uh sorry my my brain's blanking it's dyslexia thing so the um the way it is is that most of us are

01:34:14.360 being forced to vote for people like we don't even really like um due to like the funding issues and

01:34:21.840 who gets the media time literally everything i've been talking about um i didn't want to vote for

01:34:27.200 biden um a lot of never trumpers voted for trump and they didn't like him so i i would change um

01:34:33.700 thomas bassey talks a lot about this um uh just the entire system is set up for only two parties and

01:34:41.220 it kind of forces people to pick shitty candidates and pick a side and if both sides suck you choose the

01:34:48.440 less sucky one and we're all kind of stuck in this like this fucked up yeah it's a fucked up system

01:34:56.280 the way we have it right now okay you also wrote moving on to the rest of your notes uh you wrote

01:35:03.680 i just want to tell you you're a little bitch little bitch you did write that no little bitch is it i

01:35:10.440 wasn't actually can you repeat it exactly what i want how i said it this is your quote i just want

01:35:16.560 to tell you you're a little bitch bitch little bitch it's not an actual and i didn't bitch yeah b-i-t-c-h

01:35:23.620 can i see that i don't think i said those words you can look it up after the show i'm not

01:35:27.460 inventing i said don't be a little bitch is what i said don't be a little l-i-l-b-i-c-h

01:35:35.020 it wasn't no you oh my god bro i know what i said we're getting in the weeds i know what i said

01:35:40.260 don't change my words i mean do you want me to take a screenshot okay tell you what do you have

01:35:44.560 any cash on you if i take a screenshot of it dollar how about this you have to venmo did i say don't be a

01:35:50.560 little bitch do you want to do a bet no wait i'm trying i think you might have been right did i

01:35:54.560 say don't be a little bitch i said don't be a little l-i-l-b-i-l-b-i-c-h that mean that's not a

01:36:00.780 real insult don't be a little bitch when someone you said i called you a bitch are we debating about

01:36:05.160 lil versus little and i said b-i-c-h that's not the the substance of what i'm about to get into

01:36:11.680 okay but i'm just saying i never called you name you literally did the only name i called you

01:36:17.180 yeah you're don't i have it in front of me i didn't change your words wait are you do you

01:36:23.740 want to shake hands a thousand dollars what are the exact same what is little bitch don't but so

01:36:28.980 what's the start little bitch she's arguing about no i'm asking over a little bit what are the what's

01:36:34.100 the first part of that i you literally i said don't be a but i'm asking what was the sentence

01:36:41.980 do you want me to repeat it again i just want to tell you you're a little bitch little bitch not

01:36:48.160 little bitch that's what you wrote anyways that's not i see it i don't remember that you're getting

01:36:53.600 bogged down here i'm moving on to the next thing oh i do remember that you oh my god you're jesus

01:36:59.960 dude can you like hold stop stop i don't remember i you you wrote i used to think you were okay and

01:37:05.960 sort of nice can you shut up please can you stop interrupting you wrote i used to think you were

01:37:11.120 okay and sort of nice but you're fake af and hide behind your mentally ill excuse me mentally ill

01:37:18.000 minions my viewers and mystery okay um okay so how am i fake because this was also about the james

01:37:26.160 tallarico thing i was talking about how like fucked up the charlie kirk thing was and how i wanted to

01:37:31.380 come here to talk about like real issues um and i i was like spilling my heart about like how fucked up

01:37:38.320 shit's gotten and in society and um and i i was mad about like you telling me to find people i found

01:37:47.640 worthy and i kept bringing up james tallarico which would be an awesome debate like it would be great

01:37:53.940 um and then you just keep ignoring me so i talk about all these issues that i think are more

01:37:59.280 important how would that make me fake though what because like i thought that you didn't want to

01:38:04.180 confront the actual issues because like yeah because i i spilled my heart out about like how

01:38:10.020 corrupt the government is and um i mean okay and how i i wanted i had a message of because he was

01:38:18.040 talking about how like the left is murderous and all this stuff and i was upset about

01:38:22.920 majority of okay i was upset about reactions on on both sides um so yeah i was and then i wanted to

01:38:34.280 talk about it and i also brought up james tallarico wait can i ask you a question if i want and i wait

01:38:40.780 wait stop stop so um we get a lot of requests for people who want to come on the show uh a lot of

01:38:46.460 requests and you've already been on twice and again i'm not trying to say this to be insulting

01:38:50.500 your previous performances were frankly lackluster i almost i already said this i kind of already

01:38:56.000 regret having booked this already andrew the superstar that he is uh but a little beneath him

01:39:02.040 i apologize andrew in advance i've seen your other debates well okay anyways with who the girls

01:39:09.500 literally have nothing to say and just repeat stupid shit on the left with no thought whatsoever i'm

01:39:15.300 not saying this to like intentionally be insulting you were kind of low priority in terms of getting

01:39:20.180 you back on the show that's cool oh but in any case i'm not sure how that'd be fake it'd be like

01:39:24.820 i guess if if i is joe rogan like if i reach out to joe rogan and he's not responding to me does that

01:39:30.380 make him fake no what was because i'm trying to get on his podcast fake is is um that i didn't i didn't

01:39:36.980 think you wanted to talk about real issues i was saying this is my purpose for being here and i kept

01:39:42.100 saying james tallarico um okay and i was mad that i felt like i had real things to say that are bigger

01:39:51.420 than culture issues to talk about well i mean i feel like you're kind of using you were name dropping

01:39:57.940 james as an effort to i'm telling you why i was mad shoehorn yourself into a debate but like i reached

01:40:04.380 out that email you sent me of his campaign manager i reached out no response so it seems like i told you

01:40:09.880 ahead of time that it's gonna take a while your relation or connection to james tallarico is a bit

01:40:15.260 dubious at this point i kind of get the impression that it was just uh you actually have no connection

01:40:21.180 to him and his perhaps interest in uh debate is a bit with andrew wilson perhaps a bit dubious but

01:40:27.960 in any case why did i have the direct contact to the person no response no i told you ahead of time

01:40:34.220 that it's just anyways and look at his travels listen when i when i contacted y'all james was not

01:40:41.380 mainstream in like a few weeks away from um a uh yeah the the voting has already started um so

01:40:51.260 months and months and months ago when i started volunteering for james i kept i said i told you hey

01:40:58.720 i i who the fuck is james tallarico now everybody's gonna look him up i don't know who the fuck he is

01:41:05.220 he's a christian democrat who's running for the oh yeah absolutely i'll debate with any christian

01:41:10.840 and even on joe when he was on joe rogan i sent you the link of showing the comments where everyone

01:41:17.140 was saying that that you need to debate him i sent you his thing i think that yeah everybody yeah

01:41:23.760 if he's a christian democrat he can't win a debate it's not possible he's well he's pretty

01:41:28.640 good at it i guess not possible so yeah i mean i was so yeah he might not be responding now but

01:41:33.620 he's literally exploded through media and is traveling around right now i don't know how me

01:41:37.980 i was trying to get it him to come months and months ago overlooking your messages out of the sea of

01:41:43.840 messages that i do have i'll know that's fake but because i'm not gonna focus don't worry i'm not

01:41:48.160 i'm just okay but it's because i i wanted to bring a real opponent to to debate him instead of

01:41:54.500 these young andrew has gone up against some of the best andrew's debated some of the best

01:42:00.420 debaters out there you asked me you said you even said you pay me to find people who i thought were

01:42:05.500 worthy to bring on the show and i find like the best person you sent me two people and then one of

01:42:10.380 them was no no people backed out um but i've probably like five different times i brought up

01:42:18.260 james tallarico you you yeah you sense like his name and no i showed you his joe rogan episode i

01:42:25.580 and and i showed you all the comments where everyone was saying that they need to bet debate tell you

01:42:30.560 what you got the connection i'd be happy to host a 1v1 between andrew and christian democrats aren't

01:42:35.920 going to debate with him but he's he's done debates like that no i'm very confident like

01:42:41.060 those politicians already said those politicians only want to take the media that's going to paint

01:42:46.060 them in a favorable light he went on fox he's gone on fox and shit easy peasy compared to andrew

01:42:51.660 andrew wilson will demolish crush crush he if he was he's literally like a sermon he literally went

01:42:59.580 to school like starting the bible like andrew would demolish yeah they do it all the time that you

01:43:03.920 know how many times i get these these faux christians who come in and they have these

01:43:07.720 phony ass theology degrees cracks me up uh i went to seminary school to find liberal jesus yeah i was

01:43:15.920 mostly irritated that literally but the thing is it's like look i don't know this guy to be totally fair

01:43:22.280 yeah i never even heard of him before for all i know he's one of the best debaters on planet earth

01:43:27.680 right i got nothing against this guy i'm happy to debate with him if he's a christian democrat

01:43:33.080 those are my favorite so i'm happy to do it i got no i got no dog in this fight so basically i was

01:43:38.660 just upset that like i felt like you only wanted to bring people in that um yeah uh i was talking

01:43:47.440 about corruption on both sides and okay i was talking yeah all right it was mostly like i thought you

01:43:52.840 were being fake that's crazy giovanni jade you donated two hundred dollars sounds right

01:43:57.640 talarico is a disgusting hippie jesus heretic who wears our faith like a skin suit so you people

01:44:03.480 who despise christianity will clap like seals he will never debate anyone with an ounce of theology

01:44:10.000 anyways jesus kind of was a hippie giovanni really good to see you uh thank you for the message that

01:44:18.180 take paul out of it and yeah you mean take the pinnacle part of the gospel out of it and then he

01:44:25.100 will be as long as we just take out the parts that you don't like no i mean we can compare uh

01:44:31.200 if you let me take my notes out what he said that just i'm kind of just trying to rapid fire through

01:44:35.200 these things okay and then we can get back to some of the prompts uh you also in terms of your

01:44:39.800 criticisms levied andrew by the way andrew's been a guest on the dating talks very frequently he's our

01:44:44.940 most reoccurring guests uh and thank you whatever for having me by the way to do that i agree thank you

01:44:51.180 for having me but one of the criticism criticisms levied was your whole show's premise is about

01:44:58.600 the male lonely loneliness epidemic but you're spewing garbage that makes women repulsed by men

01:45:04.740 ensuring all your incel homeboys never get laid uh so really quick just my response to that and then

01:45:11.640 i'll let you respond uh so you wrote that the whole show the dating talk the whole show's premise is

01:45:17.580 about the male loneliness epidemic uh this is just simply false the male loneliness excuse me the male

01:45:25.100 loneliness epidemic is not the premise of the show it's a broad dating discussion show um i don't even

01:45:34.300 really talk about the male loneliness epidemic it's maybe come up like that that actual term

01:45:41.520 that actual term uh has maybe come up two three times on the show it's not a central focus of the

01:45:50.860 conversations that are had on the show so your premise is flawed your premise is erroneous the

01:45:58.700 premise of the whatever uh the dating i know it's a dating it's not the about the male loneliness

01:46:04.020 loneliness epidemic i should have broadened it but yeah it it's a total straw man it doesn't it doesn't

01:46:11.140 change the fact that your show makes people more more repulsive each other my my show makes people

01:46:17.980 more repulsed yeah the yeah when people are coming into my dms the way that it's because of the way

01:46:25.240 people spoke to me in the dms about the rights to vote and all of that and um when you're showcasing

01:46:31.500 people who are um young and dumb um you give the impression like you i'm not young but thank you

01:46:40.900 how old are you 38 well i'll take back the young part so what can you tell me what makes me dumb i'm

01:46:49.680 not good at debate but what have i i agree with the majority of what you say so what makes me dumb

01:46:55.080 well let's let's investigate your claim first before i have to give an accounting of what would

01:47:00.700 make you dumb but you're claiming i bring on these young and dumb women um how how's that

01:47:06.960 i don't understand how that's because related yeah because you give an image that um we're all asking

01:47:16.920 for people to make a million dollars and that i don't say that people i'm giving a broad of what how

01:47:24.660 people perceive it that everybody's entitled i'm entitled okay if i perceived you as a dinosaur is

01:47:32.220 that correct is that true in your head okay but so is it possible that somebody could have a false

01:47:40.060 perception yeah that's okay you want i get you're doing some good things with that but i think if

01:47:45.500 you're doing some good things about getting rid of people's perceptions on yeah feminism did go too far

01:47:52.580 you are doing some good things um to get rid of some people's perceptions but i think if you wanted

01:48:01.160 to be fair on it um you would have a broader sense of people even maybe bringing young like trump

01:48:10.640 supporters and testing them out to see what if they know how many branches of government they are

01:48:15.140 there are and then let me get back i don't want your gish uh you're you're doing a gish gallop so

01:48:20.860 basically i would like an attempt to maybe we can do one by one yeah i was going to get back to the

01:48:25.400 point because if you give me a bullet like 10 things yeah it's hard for me so i'd like to do

01:48:30.000 one by one so okay you're saying that that there's a lacking of diversity in terms of the guests that

01:48:36.080 we have on the panel you're saying brian you bring on a very narrow range a very narrow type of women

01:48:41.360 onto the show that isn't representative of you know there's these really intelligent women out there

01:48:47.360 or there's women on the left and by the way uh the panels are frequently tend to be

01:48:52.900 pretty a little split politically you'll have women who are liberal women who are moderate you'll

01:48:59.460 have women who are right wing you'll have women who are conservatives so this idea that i'm for

01:49:04.860 example only bringing on liberal women is not true and by the way liberal women and conservative

01:49:10.960 women can equally get the smoke because a lot of these conservative women they're covert feminists

01:49:16.700 they're actually feminists and uh you know sarah stock who we had on the show who recently had

01:49:22.940 this who was most people would have said based off of her political takes was like super right wing

01:49:30.260 like far right wing uh and she's a total fuck she's basically lauren southern yeah i've total grifter

01:49:37.620 yeah total trad fraud there's a lot of them out there right so this idea that you know you can't

01:49:44.300 i'm not levying this criticisms toward uh conservative women is completely no i didn't say

01:49:50.560 conservative women can get the smoke too i didn't honestly some way hold on really quick final thing

01:49:55.280 and i'll pass it back to you i think some of these conservative women you know i sometimes respect the

01:50:01.500 of girls the the hoes they're real the liberal women because in some ways they tell the truth

01:50:07.100 exactly at least they take ownership of being whores i totally whereas some of these conservative

01:50:12.820 chicks the trad the fake trads they fucking lie they're sarah stock they're claiming to be trad but

01:50:19.620 they're not they're i'm a virgin but they're not some of these a lot of these girls who come on

01:50:25.020 claiming they're conservative trad it's a lie i'm a virgin i by the way i make it a habit not to expose

01:50:31.040 people but i'll get dms from some guy that they were smashing the week before so they can all get the

01:50:38.380 smoke it's not i'm not just picking on the liberal women but we have a we have a vast diversity of

01:50:43.140 guests they're young they're old we've had women who are 18 all the way to in their 70s we've had

01:50:48.920 women who are in their 20s 30s 40s 50s 60s come on the show we've had women aren't you close to 40

01:50:56.200 yeah she's 38 we've had women who are uh have bachelor's degrees master's degrees phds we've had

01:51:04.060 doctors we have had lawyers we have had professional women and yes we've had like women who are sex

01:51:09.980 workers we've had only fans girls on we've had women who've dropped out of college dropped out of

01:51:14.940 high school even so we've had a vast diversity of guests in terms of their age in terms of their

01:51:19.980 profession their political leaning their educational achievement by the way i'm not some intellectual

01:51:25.460 titan here i dropped out of community college i used to do silly prank videos i'm not i wasn't

01:51:32.120 schooled i don't have a philosophical foundation for my uh when i when i engage in these debates

01:51:38.280 sometimes i get smoked i get i'm on the back foot sometimes same so this idea that i'm some

01:51:43.400 intellectual titan bullying these uneducated women actually the truth is the majority of our guests

01:51:49.080 on average have higher educational achievement than me the college dropout look i anyways that wasn't

01:51:56.360 really about the really it's it's kind of it's mostly it's not about any of that it's i realize

01:52:06.360 my issues is when he's on this show and the way he talks to people doesn't like you andrew i i do like

01:52:11.960 you i just don't like the way you speak to people you've spoken to you've spoken to me worse today than

01:52:18.440 i've spoken to you no i mean you're being great it's it's every now and then you'll go it's yeah you'll

01:52:24.520 say some fucked up shit when people do horrible things to me and i respond and hang on hang on hang

01:52:31.340 on let me defend myself here for a second right what it seems to me is that the most common complaint

01:52:38.120 that i hear is that i don't allow myself to get bullied attacked my wife to get attacked my family

01:52:44.720 members to get attacked and doxxed and i'm not a passive bitch when that happens that seems to

01:52:49.460 actually be what all those criticisms tend to reduce to give me an example of when it is that i

01:52:55.740 was way out of line where the other person wasn't doing everything in their power to be agitating

01:53:01.400 or to come after me first agitating what do you mean by did they call you something messed up first

01:53:08.360 or did you just call them whores and talking about i first of all first of all when i call a woman

01:53:15.740 a whore or prostitute it's because she's a whore or a prostitute do you like do you recognize the

01:53:21.860 distinction it's like um i get what you're saying so if you're not a prostitute charlie for just

01:53:27.640 stating a fact so oh what was the fact that she had your wife has um three baby daddies which is not

01:53:37.540 meant to be an insult was it it's not an insult it's not well help me out here it's not an insult i'm just

01:53:42.700 wondering if you're married to a man and you have his children is he your baby daddy

01:53:49.240 um i mean technically that's what you consider a baby daddy so every so every couple out there

01:53:58.180 every married couple all of their wives have baby daddy i mean technically so then i guess my response

01:54:06.940 in the future should just be well so what you got a baby daddy does that even make sense i mean that

01:54:12.000 sounds i don't think she meant it as an insult at all of course she did not only that her prescription

01:54:17.400 what honestly and the reason that it got so uh brutal back and forth was because she basically

01:54:23.920 wanted me to kill my kids i saw the episode she didn't want you to yeah she she did twisting what

01:54:29.780 happened she was making a dig at you because she said it'd be better to have a border she said it

01:54:34.700 would be better for me to kill my kids yeah from my perspective it looked like she was taking a dig

01:54:39.320 at like having to live with you and then rachel called her smacked her around which was hilarious

01:54:43.960 the whole point was is like fine if you women want to make digs at my wife do it to my wife because

01:54:50.820 watching her completely dismantle and destroy your worldviews is one of the funnest things that anybody

01:54:57.740 has ever seen on planet earth and the reason women tend to attack me through her is because

01:55:03.980 they're petrified of her for good reason your wife is awesome i'm just saying you just took it as an

01:55:09.080 insult and she didn't really say anything insulting bullshit that's lies and bullshit and reframing and

01:55:15.020 not only that i didn't let's just let me just cede the ground that one time let's just assume for a

01:55:21.840 second one time after a six-hour debate with a bad faith interlocutor who was so stupid the thing she

01:55:26.840 had a degree in i still smoked her on oh i saw that okay the thing she had a degree in that she

01:55:31.940 studied her whole life i still beat her on that topic too just having a passive knowledge of it

01:55:36.960 okay let's just assume for a second that one time i lost control briefly so what done thousands of

01:55:43.900 debates i mean how many debates have you done this one yeah so the thing is is like and you haven't

01:55:49.500 exactly kept your cool you haven't exactly been cool calm and collected you haven't exactly uh balanced

01:55:55.980 the room you haven't exactly had the best showing and so the thing is is it's like even if it's the

01:56:01.280 case that i were to grant this that out of six hours of completely decimating this person's worldview

01:56:06.400 she managed to get in 15 seconds of a dunk that liberals went crazy over who were homosexuals mostly by

01:56:12.940 the way um the fact of the matter is is like so what anybody else who's in my shoes right they just

01:56:21.500 get decimated by these people over and over and over and over and over again they can't keep their

01:56:26.120 cool they can't stay calm they can't stay collected case in point what do you mean like yeah my brain

01:56:32.180 gets foggy and i lose track of what i'm saying but i haven't been mad i've stuck up for our the

01:56:37.840 conversation that we had the only time i got annoyed was when he went against the terms of what

01:56:44.320 we agreed to oh so you got annoyed um yeah i wasn't mean was i mean to him how could you be

01:56:49.360 annoyed i wasn't when you felt like somebody was being bad faith and misrepresenting something

01:56:53.900 hang on i didn't what are you saying that when you felt like somebody was being misrepresentative of

01:57:00.000 you i stuck up for myself in a nice manner in a nice polite manner every time i do something wrong

01:57:05.960 i apologize i thank you for having me on the show well now go do 3 000 more of these and we'll see if

01:57:10.800 you ever lose control in one but the thing is it's funny is it's like yeah of course people are

01:57:16.420 going to attack me viciously and occasionally they're going to get some a vicious attack back

01:57:20.440 but generally speaking i match energy i think that sometimes your attacks go a lot like what

01:57:27.740 the others i mean i'd have to we look yeah exactly you have no examples are your yawns genuine by the

01:57:34.080 way i'm almost yawning like every single second what i don't know you know how somebody could

01:57:40.020 yawn like you know when you like yeah it keeps almost happening i know what a yawn is but sometimes

01:57:45.320 you can yawn like in a oh way to be okay do i seem like i'm trying to be rude to anybody

01:57:50.760 well yeah but that aside well if it's a fake yawn if it's a fake yawn i just i just can look i just

01:57:59.800 consider it i just consider it trolling like i don't even care but the thing is is like um

01:58:05.260 the the reason that i always bring this up is because there's all there's just never any good

01:58:09.900 examples ever most of the time that uh women are trying to tone police me it's because they're

01:58:16.520 actually saying that i just need to be passive i'm not allowed to defend myself i'm not allowed

01:58:20.320 to defend my family that would be jesus's way i mean defend yourself but jesus's way

01:58:26.080 that's not what didn't jesus like throw the table over that was in the church uh for taking money

01:58:34.720 um that wasn't uh and during yeah he didn't call everybody yeah can i ask you a question

01:58:40.900 um are you aware that at the time of jesus christ that if you made a personal insult towards somebody

01:58:47.380 they would often kill you yeah did jesus call people vipers yeah and that's a that's a killable offense

01:58:54.760 jesus didn't say that though that's like the old testament no what how could jesus say that in

01:59:01.940 the old testament show me where without paul yeah let's take paul sure did he say that did he say to

01:59:09.040 kill them kill what so what do you say he did he say yeah you said it was a uh no it is so

01:59:17.400 insulting you would get killed for saying it to somebody yeah people people like you you live in

01:59:23.020 what's called presentism you see in in common parlance a lot of the words that we consider to

01:59:29.320 be insulting are moderate insults ultimately they're moderate insults like you're a stupid

01:59:35.840 bitch you're an idiot you're tarted blah blah blah blah blah blah blah those aren't things people

01:59:40.680 generally kill each other over in the time of christ they did they would kill you for insulting

01:59:46.820 them and slighting their honor sliding their wife and oftentimes the law would back them up on this

01:59:52.400 and so the thing is is like when jesus would say something like that right that caused so much

02:00:00.420 insult as to cause a person to respond by killing them and so this idea that tards have that for some

02:00:10.520 reason jesus who called uh people whitewashed tombs killable offense called them vipers killable

02:00:16.020 offense he said that they were hypocrites killable offense and by the way they ended up they did end up

02:00:21.940 killing him by the way they did they crucified him and so the thing is is it's like this is is what's

02:00:29.040 called tard theology what happens is a bunch of people get got together and decided that jesus was

02:00:34.520 a tree hugging hippie when in fact when you're really speaking truth to power it's the most insulting

02:00:40.520 thing on planet earth to the powerful and so what ends up happening is uh there's this great conflation

02:00:48.000 which happens that uh jesus was all about hugs and kisses well his words were like except when he

02:00:55.800 was calling people broods of vipers can you look that up sure look it up it's in matthew yeah uh no not

02:01:01.560 calling people vipers but he said something that did he say it was a killable offense no no no andrew's

02:01:07.500 saying that back then uh it was but jesus didn't say that yes he did no no no no he was insulting

02:01:15.760 people he was insulting them by calling them broods of vipers by calling them whitewashed tombs

02:01:21.640 these were things which were so insulting people would kill you over them so don't tell me jesus

02:01:26.960 didn't insult people he gave them the ultimate insults so insulting that it was a killable offense

02:01:32.700 in his time i think saying vipers is talking about people doing like yeah eve like evil things

02:01:41.880 but no i i do i do understand it was a killable offense but when you insult a person do you generally

02:01:49.720 expect that they're going to kill you no i get exactly what you're saying i just don't think

02:01:54.420 yeah jesus didn't say he was going to kill people no that that's not what the interest but i know i know

02:01:59.300 what you're saying i get that what's the time i get what you're saying contention is not that jesus

02:02:04.100 said that that's a killable offense that it was at the time i get it but those are two separate

02:02:10.140 things so what there's what jesus said and there's the uh social cultural zeitgeist of thousands of

02:02:16.740 years ago yeah so why are you calling but jesus actually did say woke and even though it was a

02:02:24.160 different time period first of all woke means infantilization okay so that was a whole different

02:02:29.800 time period why are you using that for modern times like it just doesn't make sense if if you

02:02:34.520 can agree during the time period things were different and the bible was written because we

02:02:39.080 have context we have context and not only do we have context but i have church history

02:02:43.740 which which has an apostolic succession which goes all the way back to the time of christ

02:02:48.320 to the original apostles which would include paul i mean he wasn't technically an original apostle was

02:02:54.500 he well okay oh sorry sorry did i'm sorry were you aware that paul was uh hung out with jesus's

02:03:02.860 apostles yeah and a lot of them wait i'm not i just want to make sure i didn't i wasn't finished

02:03:08.700 answering um yeah and a lot of them were very skeptical skeptical which ones um james

02:03:18.300 james nope yes he was look it up can you look that up no what do you want they all accepted

02:03:23.280 they were all they all accepted eventually they accepted and calling him a brother of of christ or

02:03:28.740 or whatever but um did james he was a bishop in effort what are you talking about paul was the

02:03:34.400 greatest evangelist of all time paul set it set up timothy as a bishop paul was in ephesus paul was

02:03:40.960 in corinth he and literally apostles backed his place a few of them we know we can look in acts you

02:03:48.180 can look in acts at the very first stop you can look in acts in the very first ecumenical council

02:03:53.000 paul was looked to for leadership in fact so the thing is for that time period for uh for you have

02:04:00.380 no clue what you're talking about you're just arguing to argue we're getting i'm not i'm not

02:04:04.100 arguing anything we're getting so off topic he's asking me questions let me just bring it back then

02:04:08.100 um yeah i know you reject paul yeah i reject paul but even like james and the the original thing was

02:04:15.240 your your contention is essentially jesus was this like hippie tree hugger that never was harsh or i

02:04:22.860 didn't see and andrew's saying well actually there's this example where jesus said you brew the vipers

02:04:27.860 and so that's the origination i guess moving it on to the back to this but what people don't

02:04:34.340 moving it on moving it on hold on i'm not allowed to make my last point well i mean make it we're supposed

02:04:39.600 to follow what jesus told us to do you don't know anything jesus told us to do literally wait are

02:04:46.120 you christian i actually want to hear one thing that you think jesus told us to do love god love

02:04:52.440 your neighbors uh are you follow the love god love your neighbors follow the commandments uh i call

02:04:58.600 myself a follower of the way which means uh the origin before uh the the bible sometimes before the

02:05:07.620 listen let me explain what's the denomination of the church you go to protestant okay i don't have

02:05:12.300 one in protestant it's not a denomination it's an allocation yeah okay i've been to so many a

02:05:17.860 thousand different types of churches i don't call myself a christian i go to church for the community

02:05:22.060 and love of god so you don't even follow christ i follow christ it's a different a follower of the

02:05:27.840 way is the uh she just tells you the way um which um is following the commandments yeah that's

02:05:35.900 the 70s hippie shit yeah i remember i remember reading the way yeah so i've tried to become more

02:05:45.900 bring myself more towards was he hot was he god no no jesus he was a prophet he's a prophet yeah okay

02:05:54.780 so he's not god no so you deny the divinity of christ

02:05:58.800 can you stop i'm so sorry i i'm a very do you deny the divinity of christ um he is divine no i don't

02:06:08.360 how is he divine if he's just a prophet i mean he he's just as divine as like buddha or i mean i think

02:06:16.960 it's all the same god with a different dialect and different cultures i don't you're spiritual

02:06:22.800 so it's monism i mean sort of i mean not sort of it just is right so all different denominations

02:06:30.460 have truth no i wouldn't say all i just i believe what i believe i also believe in like reincarnation

02:06:36.240 i don't fit whatever like don't make fun i'm not making fun of y'all for your beliefs well no the

02:06:42.360 thing is is like i just i'm not gonna here's the thing like my position i don't get or take lectures

02:06:49.400 from non-christians on christianity because they don't know what the fuck they're ever talking

02:06:53.680 about you don't own jesus um christianity was created after he passed away and people are

02:07:00.120 interpreting in different ways um i follow what he said and i've looked into the history of all of it

02:07:06.320 um you have huh yeah all right well let's can you just tell me what happened in acts

02:07:12.180 yeah okay what happened in acts yeah what happened just tell me you've researched it all

02:07:20.800 what happened in acts well she wants to look it up on her why do you need to look it up i thought

02:07:25.980 she researched it can i can i yeah i don't i don't think i think it's almost more of a rhetorical

02:07:30.560 question in the sense that i know i know it's a rhetorical question i don't think he actually has

02:07:33.900 an interest but can i just give you the list of what policy i compared to jesus and how i yeah oh

02:07:40.100 you're gonna look at the pauline the pauline contradictions the supposed pauline contradictions

02:07:44.220 yeah really that's what you came equipped with that's what you came equipped with was the supposed

02:07:49.560 pauline contradictions really okay well you can go through them if you want you can't even tell me

02:07:54.680 what happened in acts in acts there was like the on the hill that's um got me man that's why i don't

02:08:04.800 ever listen to non-christians about christianity well i shouldn't you listen to shouldn't you listen

02:08:13.280 to jesus above anything else instead of paul well here's the thing that's funny it's like um did

02:08:19.740 jesus himself write anything nope so who am i listening to he told he told us exactly what to do

02:08:25.480 and his disciples and who becomes a disciple did he appear to his disciples disciples need witness

02:08:30.440 did he appear to his disciples post-death yeah okay and is that true yeah okay great then why

02:08:37.800 couldn't he appear to paul um i think that paul um that's not my question my question is why

02:08:44.780 couldn't he appear to paul if he appeared to his other disciples why not because he wasn't a disciple

02:08:49.120 why couldn't he appear to paul he could okay so then he could right paul's on the road to damascus

02:08:57.280 right jesus makes an appearance is that correct um if you think it's jesus okay and then this is

02:09:03.860 verified by other apostles who tested him they had power given to them by christ didn't they

02:09:10.020 because he went to each of them post-death but you know better what do they know they were just

02:09:15.580 his apostles they first of all i they were still human and i think paul is a test because jesus warned

02:09:24.340 us ahead of time that there would be fake apostles and he told us exactly

02:09:27.740 he warned us in several different statements that there would be heresies and fake apostles

02:09:35.980 um and even committed people what was paul's name paulos and saul was the original and and what did

02:09:45.720 he do do you remember murdered a bunch of christians what did he what do you mean for work job yeah

02:09:52.420 yeah i don't know that you don't know you don't know anything about the very i just told you his

02:09:59.100 name is you don't know what do you mean i don't you don't i don't know it all you don't know anything

02:10:03.020 about the context of the very thing it is that you're talking about which is why i never listened

02:10:09.740 to lectures about christianity you have to know what someone did for a living checkmate you have

02:10:15.300 to know what someone did it's very important especially especially with paul to see how paul's

02:10:20.220 beginnings right changed into something far more humble when he became a tent maker afterwards

02:10:25.520 and this is why in fact they tried to drive paul out what you're talking about there were there were

02:10:31.300 fake apostles they were called super apostles and they tried to drive paul out that's what happened

02:10:37.080 and he had to go and put a stop to that that literally happened and the thing that's so funny

02:10:42.740 is like you don't know any of that you don't know any of the history you don't know what happened with

02:10:46.600 the cult of artemis you don't know what happened with any of the pauline doctrine none of you ever

02:10:50.700 do you just go paul said mean shit that i don't like that means that jesus is not a hippie

02:10:56.260 to what what jesus said i i don't think paul meant bad but like i don't does that mean everything

02:11:04.640 he ever says it's gonna be i gotta redirect the conversation i'm just saying i got redirected

02:11:08.860 yeah i'm just saying that if it goes against what jesus christ told us and the way he said you don't

02:11:14.400 even know what jesus christ told us so i did you don't know anything about the bible just stop it's

02:11:22.100 embarrassing i think you're a little bit out of the wheelhouse just a teeny bit andrew's a christian

02:11:28.240 andrew's an orthodox christian he's this is why i wanted you to debate jams taller ago but i i don't

02:11:32.660 think you have a strong theological foundation like an understanding i'm i'm just telling you

02:11:38.580 effectively participate in this i'm a red liner if you follow red line christianity you read what

02:11:44.620 jesus said you believe in reincarnation and jesus jesus believes in red line christianity is i don't

02:11:53.180 know what that is to be honest it's it highlights what jesus actually said and comparing it to what's

02:11:58.620 actually in the bible red line is way different than modern christianity well let me ask you a

02:12:05.260 question about what jesus said just last question what does john 1 1 say i don't have all this

02:12:12.220 memorized no this is important because you do you deny the divinity of christ what's john 1 1 say

02:12:16.920 does john 1 1 say that jesus christ is the word and in the beginning and in the beginning there was

02:12:29.880 the word and who was the word with who was the word with in the beginning i don't know the word was

02:12:38.040 with god and who was hang on and who was the word jesus no the word was god the word was god in the

02:12:45.340 beginning there was the word and the word was with god and the word was god yeah he's speaking from

02:12:51.880 yeah he's jesus is the word he is the word and he is in the word is god then what is jesus by the

02:12:58.600 transitive properties we all have and hang on i'm going to ask the question i want the answer

02:13:03.540 if it's the case that jesus is the word and the word is god by the transitive properties of this

02:13:12.720 statement what would that make jesus he's speaking from yeah he he has god's message to to send like

02:13:20.600 no no no no he never said he was jesus is the word he's speaking god's words john he said okay first

02:13:28.120 i don't understand this is crazy dude just i i haven't slept well i'm not just just explain it

02:13:36.800 to me today to do the debate he flew in today he's his nicotine i told you that i'm not in a bible

02:13:43.160 expert well then why just let me move it on then i want to move it on i'm trying to move it on but

02:13:49.320 you want you want to get the final word okay all right did you i never claimed to be i never

02:13:56.180 claimed to be a biblical scholar look i'm not trying to say you're a biblical scholar

02:14:00.520 right i wouldn't have even brought it here that's been established the problem the problem comes i'm

02:14:05.940 not a biblical scholar okay but the problem comes in i don't have it memorized the problem comes in i

02:14:11.360 don't have look i'm not asking you to memorize anything what i'm saying to you is this the reason

02:14:18.000 that i don't listen to heresychristian.com and heresy christians who try to tell me what jesus would do

02:14:25.800 in any given situation use that as their baseline for criticism is because they don't know fucking

02:14:30.680 anything about what they're talking about they don't know anything about the new testament they

02:14:35.020 don't know how it was put together why it was put together they don't know anything they hang on

02:14:39.060 because they don't know anything i don't listen to their criticisms using that as the foundation

02:14:45.720 for criticism if you had used something else we would perhaps be getting into that but you didn't

02:14:50.680 you said i'm going to criticize you for the baseline of the bible that you don't know anything

02:14:56.160 about i've i actually just because i don't have it memorized andrew had the final word on that okay

02:15:02.180 let me let me finish up some more of this and hopefully we can get to something more um okay

02:15:08.000 really quick touching on this very briefly uh again going back to the premise of my show

02:15:13.580 loneliness male loneliness epidemic uh you you your position as my viewer base is incels there there are

02:15:21.700 incels who can't get laid just curious uh i think it is fair to ask when is the last time that you got

02:15:28.120 laid first of all i don't think the majority of you are incels and i said that because when you think

02:15:36.420 the majority of my audience is incel losers basically who never get laid which the people who are

02:15:42.700 saying rude shit in their comments who watch you religiously and what if they're just tell tell

02:15:47.460 people that women that they shouldn't be able to have the right to vote while they're trying to

02:15:51.960 bang them at the same time i think that would kind of put them in the incel category hold on words

02:15:57.400 need to have meaning incel stands for involuntarily celibate when they're becoming an incel if they're

02:16:03.020 coming at women like that but why should we even believe that that's true what do you mean why should

02:16:07.860 we believe that there's men in your dms who are trying to date you and telling you yeah

02:16:12.280 okay i want to see the actual context yeah i do i do want to see the actual context behind

02:16:17.900 hey i want to date you and take your right to vote away i want the context there

02:16:22.420 by the way i i took a poll of my audience and they're just don't care they're definitely not

02:16:29.620 in so they're just i don't think they're insults i'm i'm saying when you go about things a certain

02:16:34.860 way and make things mainstream that aren't and they're trying to date you and they're saying

02:16:39.440 shit like that then i'm kind of narrowing the dating scene because a handful of men by the way

02:16:45.400 my live streams collect i'm not talking about everybody can you stop interrupting please can

02:16:52.040 can you stop okay so even if it's true that a handful of men sent you dms and it originated from

02:17:00.980 my audience the total viewership just for the live streams you know typically after 30 days we receive

02:17:07.620 about 200 000 views total on my live streams so let's even say a dozen people dms you i don't

02:17:15.480 think that that would be representative of the viewer base not even factoring in the hundreds of millions

02:17:21.160 of monthly views we get across our clips uh so i i mean i i don't understand i know i'm talking about

02:17:27.500 a certain type that um maybe clings on to that a little bit too seriously um i don't think the

02:17:37.520 majority of them are like that okay all right well i'll know why it's interesting you made a criticism

02:17:43.280 multiple times throughout the show about labeling yet in your messages to me you wanted to label my

02:17:49.580 viewers as incels and that my show uh that that i or perhaps andrew were spewing garbage that makes

02:17:59.260 women repulsed by men yeah uh i was talking about exactly what i was going on in my dating life with

02:18:08.000 it right but people who dm you wouldn't necessarily be represented i just said that the majority of them

02:18:14.040 are great nice people i'll pass on that um i i still talk to i still talk to a lot of them i'm

02:18:19.980 hanging out with one of them in the next month you're so then it sounds like it's a very effective

02:18:24.240 dating strategy i told it was just as friends i told him i told him well it's just just as friends

02:18:29.700 just as yeah i know i straight up told you're saying uh somebody in the whatever audience is having a

02:18:37.740 one-on-one rendezvous with you w as just friends there there it is yeah i straight upset i straight

02:18:44.420 up told him like if we do hang out like legit like it's just friends yeah he's coming into town and i

02:18:50.420 said okay cool i mean my advice to you is i mean everybody who watches my shows uh is a um an incel

02:18:58.440 who's getting dazed why would i still be talking to these dudes if i thought they were like bad people

02:19:03.660 like like i don't know have you tried the majority of them bumble maybe you could go out it's so

02:19:08.300 horrible no don't you live in austin aren't there a bunch i don't even date i told them you should

02:19:13.100 go to an anti-ice protest and you can try to find a guy there i don't give a shit about it i'm not

02:19:17.780 trying to find a guy by the way just to be clear sometimes i'm not trying to find a dude okay but

02:19:20.960 sometimes you don't have to respond to like everything i say but anyways um okay moving off of the

02:19:26.720 incel thing i do it to be fair uh are some just i don't think you have admit sure sure that's who i was

02:19:33.200 talking about any evidence as to the makeup of my audience i think that there's there's feminists

02:19:37.820 who have incels in their chat so it's when i actually probably probably more yeah can i respond

02:19:43.800 it's when i watch like it live and you see the chats coming in it's it's wait wait wait wait wait

02:19:49.600 really quick though so youtube comments twitch or well i'll just stick to youtube youtube comments

02:19:55.340 youtube live chat even prior to me ever starting the whatever podcast you could you could go watch a

02:20:02.200 baking video and the youtube comments uh youtube has a reputation the comment section for being like

02:20:11.000 fucking awful even for content that is not perhaps as controversial as the whatever podcast you could

02:20:18.080 like you know well you see a gaming video the comments are like insane you you could look at any

02:20:24.620 video and the comment section is pretty wild live chat even more wild so i don't think that's

02:20:31.820 representative of the whatever podcast necessarily that's who i'm talking about that's just the the

02:20:37.660 climate online youtube comments and let's face it that shit's fun like half that shit's fun for

02:20:45.900 people to go like people like to go and they like to vent they like to talk their little shit in

02:20:51.780 comments anonymously yeah because it's fun and here's the thing i don't think you're above that

02:20:57.180 i bet you've been in youtube comments and talked your little shit before she called me a bitch a

02:21:01.860 little bitch no little bitch by the way you said some very mean things about andrew which i'm holding

02:21:07.240 for a little bit but i guess moving on here in any case then later i undid my response and said okay

02:21:13.600 okay we'll get to it uh you don't have any evidence as to the makeup of my audience um i prefer you debate

02:21:20.340 the actual points not like do a caricature of what you think my audience is you don't have to

02:21:26.080 hey you don't have to respond to everything it's okay it's okay i'm moving it on uh you know it's

02:21:31.160 funny because a lot of the a lot of the whatever like if you're talking about hardcore fans versus

02:21:36.900 like random viewers things like this i would tear it so i would always say you're not going to monolith

02:21:42.740 an entire audience of hundreds of thousands because that's the audience base right some of them are in

02:21:48.600 the live chat probably before this is done maybe close to 70 80 000 who come through the live chat

02:21:54.780 um and then you have people who just watch videos and like it's it's all over the place so

02:22:00.500 you would have to tear it but i've been in the whatever discord and i've been where like the fans

02:22:06.740 hang out and stuff like that a lot of them are married right and surprisingly there's a lot of women

02:22:12.780 a lot of women who are like discord who are like we really you know they they consider women watch

02:22:19.100 the show because they consider it a human interest piece they're watching for totally different reasons

02:22:23.400 i watch the show i love the show yeah of course because because you're interested in probably what

02:22:27.920 makes people tick what makes you tick what makes you think like you think no you you all have a lot

02:22:32.960 of good views i just uh the sometimes am i am i an incel do you think i'm no no yes not at all

02:22:39.960 no i'm talking about that one type of people that that dm it's kind of like the like that's a great

02:22:47.720 modern daily so at first it's brian your audience they're all your incel homeboys oh no actually it's

02:22:53.420 just like the dozen men who dm'd me if if i got into detail if i got into detail if i got into detail

02:23:01.360 is he gonna crack does he is he gonna crack you think or crack about what never mind um sorry

02:23:06.480 anyways he's gonna frame what is this dude's gonna show up and he's gonna frame mark he's gonna incel

02:23:11.300 max totally um yeah i just don't think it's good for society for us to literally make fun of each

02:23:16.620 other all the time and it's it's not everyone on the show you called me that's a very feminine view

02:23:22.020 too by the way what just the the idea of like everybody should be nice to each other we should

02:23:28.440 all really rally around the things we agree on versus what we disagree on things like that you

02:23:32.780 know men don't actually think that way very often uh oftentimes in fact the the way that men get along

02:23:39.620 best is when they're roasting each other when they're hard on each other roast each other when

02:23:43.680 they're hang on when they're awful to each other they don't even actually consider a lot of that

02:23:48.340 to be anything other than what's considered pure bonding and it's a very feminine view uh and women

02:23:54.880 have it all the time that men need to act like women and part of the whole coming together thing

02:24:00.140 and this type of stuff uh inside of a political frame usually comes from a feminine view men seem

02:24:06.080 to be much more understanding of the fact that there's going to be political tribalism and that

02:24:11.020 it's a fight for dominance and power that's what politics actually is it's not actually about coming

02:24:15.820 together at all it's about imposing your views on society brian and i i hang out with mostly

02:24:23.140 dudes a lot of the time um calling you that doesn't make you one though that

02:24:26.920 doesn't make you wait hold on moving it on uh it wasn't like a serious like your evil

02:24:33.500 message like no well hold on we'll get into that what garbage am i spewing

02:24:38.320 um i don't think you're spewing garbage it's more of that you wrote it

02:24:42.900 you said i was spewing garbage oh it's andrew who spews the garbage i've told multiple times that

02:24:49.740 it's that's fair i've never said you have things yeah

02:24:54.080 you you um you wrote here the whole show's premise blah blah blah you're but you're spewing

02:25:05.440 garbage that makes women repulsed by men the garbage it would be stuff like the voting him

02:25:12.040 like yeah and the things he says that women find repulsive um it's not anything you say

02:25:19.040 your views i would say are very based it's sometimes the way he goes about things that

02:25:24.180 make women repulsed 19th i guess so um is there a man is indeed bad is there anything besides the

02:25:30.080 voting that you would consider spewing garbage um yeah i talk the stuff about propaganda

02:25:37.380 women being more um easily propaganda if there was a study that actually demonstrated this would

02:25:45.340 i looked it up there i haven't seen anything oh well but there is i've i've looked up all of this

02:25:52.560 is there what one study andrew what is the no there's there's actually a lot i didn't find anything

02:25:59.460 you i'll demonstrate it to you very simply actually so can i ask you a question out of men and women who

02:26:06.000 do you think are the largest retail consumers women and so if you have a corporation you're

02:26:15.400 running advertisements for a product if it was the case that men responded better to the

02:26:20.420 advertisements than women who would you tailor the ads for men but they're doing that and who do they

02:26:26.620 tailor no no in fact because it is the case that women are so much easy it's so much easier to make

02:26:34.780 women buy than it is to make men buy because they're much easier to propagandize by the way

02:26:40.220 there are tons and tons of studies about this you can go to rachel wilson my wife's substack

02:26:44.780 and she cites a lot of this i don't remember what the article was called but i'm sure that she can dm

02:26:49.660 brian and we can get it over to you but she's talked about especially uh consumer the consumer

02:26:56.000 idealism and the fact that women are specifically targeted by corporations and things like this because

02:27:02.700 it's so easy to sell them shit because of their emotional responses to advertisements

02:27:07.520 okay like who was the arms of the angel with the little dogs for you know like when when sarah

02:27:13.440 mclaughlin is that her name sarah mclaughlin mclaughlin when she's like in the arms of the angel

02:27:20.320 is that is that for men or are they trying to make women open their fucking purse and send a bunch of

02:27:27.700 money in because they're like oh my god oh oh it's it this oh this really gets my heart but

02:27:34.520 aren't women more in charge of like buying things for the family and stuff like that so now here's

02:27:41.560 the thing that's interesting it doesn't seem that that's a great argument and it's one leftist women

02:27:45.920 often make but it falls short and here's why it is true that women generally will buy for the household

02:27:53.040 right groceries and things like that but we can adjust for those things by looking at luxury goods

02:27:58.420 and luxury items and who do you think buys more of those the guys are buying it for sugar for sugar

02:28:06.820 babies yeah i i don't i don't like yeah no hang on i'm just i'm just gonna ask you directly again who

02:28:12.980 do you think's buying all these uh luxury items for the home can we look up that because i think yes we

02:28:18.560 can look that up dudes doing that too it's of course men guys do it to try to impress the women

02:28:25.120 telling you that men don't buy luxury items i'm asking you which sex is buying the most of them

02:28:32.880 um i'd say women but the dudes are paying for it no what's going on even if that was the case so what

02:28:41.240 even if that was the case that men paid for it because they wanted access to sex or something like

02:28:45.960 this the advertisements are still going to the more easily propagandized sex that's women i don't

02:28:52.140 think it's the more easily propagandized it's really uh for middle class people who want to

02:28:59.600 feel rich um rich people don't buy that shit i don't think it's really based off sex it's like

02:29:06.060 no we're talking about even poor people who are buying luxury items i mean if the study yes

02:29:12.300 there i would change my mind rachel wilson's propaganda or not propaganda her her uh her

02:29:19.240 substack on female propaganda i mean i would love to to read that but politically i would uh argue that

02:29:26.920 uh y'all were kind of duped um the conservative side conservatives overall oh no dude no dudes i think

02:29:36.820 dudes were more duped with the last vote i don't even care so wait is it equal in terms of who's

02:29:43.660 prone to propaganda is it equal between men and women is it men more prone or is it women more prone

02:29:48.880 i think it's um same but different ways question really quick question on this uh in terms of

02:29:55.740 appealing to emotion who's more prone to that men or women women okay and can propaganda be an

02:30:03.860 effective way of appealing to emotion of course that's not the only thing distinction of well

02:30:13.320 earlier you were mentioning political propaganda propaganda i'd say i'm not saying yeah i'd say

02:30:19.900 that um well when it comes to the dudes got duped when it comes to trump is what i'm saying okay well

02:30:25.060 we're right about to get into that so i guess she sent it she sent it over rachel did first up stack

02:30:29.760 women often show stronger positive responses higher trust better attitudes towards the ad brand and

02:30:38.200 greater behavioral intent to emotional advertising especially empathy sadness rational appeals than men

02:30:43.560 men prefer to respond better to rational factual humor things like this uh yeah so i mean yes i don't

02:30:53.240 disagree yes they are a hundred percent no more yes they are i mean research indicates women exhibit

02:31:00.320 more favorable attitudes and trust towards brands using emotional content while men may suppress emotional

02:31:05.200 responses due to social desirability or stereotypes like where did that we buy shit or whatever um but

02:31:13.220 y'all y'all got trump elected and fell for a lot of lies i think voted for trump um they did like

02:31:21.460 what lies what lies did they fall for um the america first shit no more wars um the economy where's the

02:31:28.440 wars the epstein files where's the wars well bombing iran and is that a war i think when they say america

02:31:36.740 first they mean literally that's not my question is that a war um not technically but they're getting

02:31:42.000 ready for wars lots of bombings lots of money is there the whole point of america is there any new

02:31:50.340 wars technically no okay the money spent the bombing all of that that is what america first is no one

02:31:58.440 wanted that no one asked for that uh-huh but trump said he wasn't going to engage america in new wars

02:32:04.580 and then went and made sure that to not engage america in new wars yeah um that's that's bullshit

02:32:11.260 okay which new war i didn't say that no i'm saying him the people saying oh i have to fight someone

02:32:17.240 to prevent fighting someone that's propaganda they've been using forever for them okay but

02:32:22.080 what does that have to do with no new wars um literally not getting involved and shit that

02:32:28.560 we don't belong there's no new wars under trump there's none that's just a that's just a typical

02:32:35.020 literally they said america first meaning don't get involved in foreign shit that we have nothing to do

02:32:41.260 trump has mostly focused on domestic policy especially legal immigration like other than

02:32:46.400 immigration what has one of the major campaign promises that he did yeah and then i know he's

02:32:53.580 what a terrible fucking guy no new wars and he focused on illegal immigration did he tell everyone

02:32:59.500 ahead of time that they were going to wear masks with no identification shoot people in the face

02:33:03.820 no wait you mean hang on with when it comes to ice right yeah yeah his base is not upset by ice can

02:33:12.700 you look that up yeah you can look up yes you can look you can look up the divide i've looked it up

02:33:18.040 the majority of all people we're talking about his base how does maga what the 37 that still like him

02:33:26.860 his base his base responds very favorably to what's going on with ice okay so like a third of

02:33:34.380 the population and by the way here's the thing the susceptibility of propaganda is a fun one you'll find

02:33:40.440 the divide is once again mostly along sex lines i'm so stunned i'm so shocked that women get very

02:33:48.780 emotional by the fact that you're going to have to if you're actually enforcing the immigration policy

02:33:53.080 of your country separate families like joe biden did that's okay like joe biden did and where the

02:33:59.100 fuck were they you're gonna have to you're gonna have to utilize your federal assets in order to

02:34:05.160 remove illegal immigrants just like biden did the only difference is these fuckers weren't out there

02:34:09.420 when biden was doing that or when biden was doing he wasn't allowing mass people can yes they were

02:34:15.940 allowing mass people what are you talking about joe biden had ice not like face masks for covid but

02:34:22.580 literally to cover their identity and won't respond with a badge but when asked to identify

02:34:28.620 yourself like cops are supposed to do law enforcement they won't they're coming out of vans

02:34:33.080 in mass that's because people down the street because left going into houses without judicial

02:34:37.780 warrants okay first of all that's because leftists will dox their entire family and begin harassment

02:34:44.280 campaigns against their fucking families that doesn't put them above the law does it first of all

02:34:50.100 they're not nobody's saying they're above the law but guess what is above the law that's against the

02:34:54.060 law it's not against the law show me the law every every they're the only i just had this debate with

02:34:59.620 brian shapiro guess what we found out ah do they have to identify themselves which they don't

02:35:05.740 no literally so yeah federal federal officers only in some circumstances have to do that that's one

02:35:12.180 can you look the second that you need to look at is the protocols for their safety right safety is

02:35:18.360 what matters here if it's the case people that a bunch of leftists are going to dox your entire

02:35:25.080 family put it on private websites and then public websites which they were doing and funding it from

02:35:30.800 leftist organizations and then they would harass the shit out of these guys families yeah i'd hide my

02:35:35.760 fucking identity too well i do there's also you want me to look something yeah yeah but there's also

02:35:40.440 the well can i respond real fast you asked me to look it up let me just give it real but there's also

02:35:45.160 the safety of the people matter okay there is no federal law requiring agents to not wear masks

02:35:50.660 california did quite a bit later or i guess recently they passed a no secret police act to ban

02:35:57.700 federal agents from wearing masks under new skill that conceal their identity while on duty but that's

02:36:02.580 just california and that's very recent i know that i i said identifying you said it's illegal

02:36:07.460 i said not to identify themselves when asked i can look that up that's what i was talking about

02:36:12.860 can i take a break i'm sorry anyone can have a fake uniform there's literally been people

02:36:18.500 arrested people are rolling up in tanks with fake uniforms someone got arrested for impersonating a

02:36:23.060 cop people yeah an ice cop impersonating cops yeah so yeah i think it's important to have more than

02:36:28.100 just a mask and an ice so they they need to wear no mask and get doxed by leftists and have their

02:36:33.500 families harassed if they're enforcing the laws of the united states brilliant plan yeah because

02:36:37.340 they're causing violent situations or happen no wait you're saying it's illegal though no no no

02:36:43.980 that's not what's going on the leftists are the ones causing the violent situation they're the ones

02:36:49.800 surrounding federal buildings and committing violent acts and doing everything they can to agitate

02:36:55.420 federal officers that's what leftists are doing tell me this why is it that local police officers

02:37:02.000 inside of these various leftist states won't deploy the local police departments to these federal

02:37:07.860 buildings in order to maintain peace and security it's because the fucking governors of these states

02:37:12.760 and the local mayors of these states give them stand down orders so that the feds have to deal with

02:37:17.940 them knowing the feds aren't trained to do that and so what they're doing is they're sparking

02:37:22.180 incidences on purpose and that's fucking leftists no i mean but ice is um like cops are supposed to

02:37:28.600 like if if someone's irritated what do they call it the um sorry my dyslexia brain um they're supposed

02:37:35.800 to instead of causing more anger they're supposed to uh deescalate yeah they're supposed to deal

02:37:40.960 then have the trained local police do their fucking job or train ice better like the people

02:37:47.380 that got not designed to do riot control it's not about riots yes it is the people who got killed

02:37:53.660 weren't involved in rights they were they went up to them bullshit them in the face got on top of

02:37:59.900 those shootings no both of those shootings was confrontations at protests where these people

02:38:04.880 were going if you go up to someone who's just standing there bullshit and but they went up to him

02:38:09.660 first of all renee was blocking off the fucking road she was told to move she refused she hit an

02:38:14.620 ice agent she got shot moving yeah she got shot for moving to a fucking ice agent for moving no no

02:38:21.240 no well hold on you're you're forgetting the part where uh they initially they they wanted her to get

02:38:26.460 out of the road but then she was blocking the road and then there the there was i mean there were a

02:38:31.500 couple different agents he was approaching her and he said to exit the vehicle he was giving her a

02:38:36.900 lawful order to exit the vehicle once you're being detained by law enforcement you don't get

02:38:42.020 to leave anymore she was being detained but you also don't don't get to shoot them in the face the

02:38:47.000 more it's that alex petty though they came up to him he was just standing no the opposite he went

02:38:53.840 towards the officers after they had moved a woman back who they were he moved towards officers all he

02:38:59.620 did was shield her from mace he didn't go up to them that's what you're not allowed to interfere

02:39:04.600 you're not allowed to interfere with federal you're not allowed to interfere with cops in

02:39:08.840 the middle of doing their job a death sentence well here's the thing don't resist then and you

02:39:14.940 won't get killed he got mace in the face six people attacked him um so don't get involved while

02:39:20.940 they were like breaking ribs and punching him in the face you know what would have stopped all of

02:39:25.340 you know what stops resisting is not beating someone up stops all of that if you just let the ice

02:39:29.780 go get the illegals and throw them out like they're supposed to i've got to pee really bad but

02:39:34.140 no we can't do that because that's mean i just think they should get better training and there should

02:39:38.440 be consequences my question is before before these two incidences the the two killings uh occurred

02:39:45.660 i guess the the genesis of what happened what was happening there was is that these ice officers

02:39:54.980 were conducting lawful investigations they were doing like there was there's no the baseline

02:40:01.280 there were they were protesting their baseline law enforcement activity which was apprehending

02:40:07.500 illegal immigrants right is that fair to say yes um yeah so so like renee good and well i guess

02:40:15.040 alex peretti that happened after renee good so you could argue he was he was in the streets because

02:40:19.580 he was upset about renee good in any case you would you acknowledge that prior uh prior to renee good

02:40:24.760 she was she was upset with their lawful conduct which was apprehending illegal immigrants so why

02:40:31.080 was she interfering yeah but why was she interfering with lawful uh law enforcement operations i mean i

02:40:39.480 think because of see like obama deported a shit ton of people right no no no no i think it's the way

02:40:46.860 they're going about it oh what's the difference the the mass they're chasing they had mass then

02:40:52.260 because they didn't chase people down the street i'm gonna tell you right they didn't chase brown

02:40:56.540 people down the street i grew up they didn't arrest people from the works that were citizens listen

02:41:00.700 even though they oh my god this is crazy i grew up in california home depots got raided constantly

02:41:07.240 by ice when i was a kid they were getting raided by ice here's how it used to work you'd go pull up in

02:41:13.520 front of a home depot masks you'd pull yeah and you'd pull up in front of a home depot and you'd go

02:41:17.980 against yeah you'd go three like swat teams wear masks too they would go three and three mexicans

02:41:24.960 would jump in the back you take them they do your day labor and you drop them back off in front of

02:41:28.260 the home depot by five that's how things people used to do things all the time ice knew all about

02:41:34.060 that they would go do raids on home depots they would do raids in department stores they do raids

02:41:38.320 a taco hell when i was a kid they did a massive task force um raid on tons and tons and tons of

02:41:47.200 burger joints like mcdonald's and taco bell and shit and we couldn't get hamburgers for like a week

02:41:52.100 because they arrested all the employees nobody gave a fuck nobody gave a fuck they only give a fuck now

02:41:58.580 because it's trump and that means it's fascism um i think the whole masks and not and not providing

02:42:06.920 information proof that they actually are who they like people are like it's wait can i ask you a

02:42:11.300 question would there be a need for these ice agents to wear masks if there wasn't a foundational

02:42:17.860 objection from the left to the baseline enforcement objectives that they're trying to see out so that's

02:42:25.460 just apprehending illegal immigrants the issue is is that the left has an issue with the foundational

02:42:31.000 uh operational procedures of vice which is lawful and legitimate and valid uh immigration enforcement

02:42:38.380 so it's just an escalation so it's like okay you have eyes who's trying to enforce immigration law

02:42:44.000 leftists don't like it they're trying to dox these people ruin their reputation reputation follow them

02:42:49.900 around while they're conducting lawful operation then ice is like wow these people are like basically

02:42:55.760 trying to interfere with us and uh dox us and find our family and our children we need to now put in

02:43:02.720 place these things to uh protect our family and then and then you're now using that as further

02:43:09.160 justification to continue your essential uh bullying of what is otherwise lawful immigration

02:43:15.980 enforcement no um yes look can i explain okay do you do you think if they started off in masks they

02:43:22.620 didn't start wearing masks question for you if there were if everybody in the country was like

02:43:27.800 100 okay with the immigration uh efforts being undertaken by law enforcement would there be a

02:43:34.680 need for ice to wear masks no but like uh but why do they wear masks because people don't agree but um

02:43:42.400 doxing wouldn't mean everything no no not just that they don't agree what are the actions that these uh

02:43:47.920 they're they're doxing but doxing doesn't mean anything if you're being illegal like if if you're

02:43:53.780 being fully transparent and letting people know actually what's going on instead of hiding yourself

02:43:59.880 there's videos of them saying hey we're about to apprehend a child rapist and there's literally

02:44:04.300 the activists are like i don't care uh there's videos of this well they say i don't care we don't

02:44:10.300 care even if you're apprehending uh people who are like child predators they're like we don't care we

02:44:15.640 just don't like that you're you're part of immigration enforcement oh yeah they're dumb

02:44:19.340 they need to let them do their jobs they ran but they need to let them do their jobs if they let

02:44:25.140 them do their jobs do it without a mask they need to be accountable need for them to wear their masks

02:44:29.520 if they weren't allowed them to uh do their job do you realize they were creating apps obama like he

02:44:36.460 deported way more people at a faster rate political this is political they didn't wear masks it wasn't

02:44:43.100 political there was no resistance to it but ice officers didn't act the way that they are now yes

02:44:48.420 they did what was the difference what were they doing different they were going to home depot

02:44:53.360 wearing masks macing babies first of all the very amazing they're macing babies the very first thing

02:44:58.620 i don't think i did that before can i wait hold on really quick there's there's way more scrutiny on

02:45:03.400 law enforcement ever since like 2020 the the blm george floyd riots there's there's uh more law

02:45:09.800 enforcement officers at body cams which that's great let her pee brian yeah yeah yeah all right

02:45:14.740 go yeah i mean they should have they should have the the i think all up but i think there's i think

02:45:21.040 there's more scrutiny there just needs to be more transparency so there is transparency okay all right

02:45:26.500 we have some super chats here we have uh latumio brian is scary andrew is awesome hey 140 can

02:45:32.320 i'll save this for when she's back um the only campaign promise trump hasn't made good on his term

02:45:39.340 limits in congress which is definitely disappointing but in all other areas he's mostly kept his word

02:45:44.160 thank you matt jacob for the soup chat really appreciate it uh thank you thank you appreciate

02:45:48.940 it guys for the message the message excuse me messages there uh 200 will be tts i guess we'll

02:45:55.760 do 100 reads and then 10 and up if you want your message displayed all right well uh while we

02:46:02.420 are waiting on that um yeah erudite tomorrow guys if you're watching the stream uh we have

02:46:10.140 andrew doing a 1v1 debate with not so erudite which i prefer by the way yeah uh this was uh

02:46:19.120 this was kind of a unique one today uh and most of the debates are 1v1s actually this is the first

02:46:25.240 one i've ever seen where it was not that ever not not what not 1v1 we did a 2v well that's

02:46:33.220 2v2 with the guys yeah 2v2 yeah um although to be fair you did do most of the talking for that one

02:46:39.760 so it's basically a 1v2 you didn't know i mean when they got to the criticisms for whatever you

02:46:45.660 tangled i did a little bit but uh yeah i kind of i mean those two degenerate feminists

02:46:50.540 that guy still talks shit by the way the fuck was his name the pillow talk guy or whatever

02:46:58.240 well yeah he got wrecked they talk shit after they get wrecked that's how it works didn't that

02:47:02.500 guy say something like uh he was basically trying to do a justification of how uh

02:47:08.560 it's okay to be immoral or something i'm trying to remember what he said it was really bad yeah

02:47:15.460 they it was really bad yeah those guys those guys were something else terrible terrible uh wrong way

02:47:22.200 wrong way wrong way wrong way wrong way i know it's hard to follow instructions that have been

02:47:28.540 repeated 20 times but dude i have no sleep adhd dyslexia i'm sorry how didn't you arrive yesterday or

02:47:36.780 two days ago or i have insomnia it's not easy to manage why did you ask for debate given all these

02:47:42.280 disadvantages that's what i mean because i have a greater message all right i just should be

02:47:47.660 transparent that's it they should be more transparent all right here there's a super chat for you uh

02:47:53.860 can women or excuse me can men be women no like can is it is a transgender woman is that a male or female

02:48:04.940 it's a male okay do you consider them women are transgender no i don't but i think they should

02:48:12.660 be able to live their lives however they feel like it but like not what about sports not i don't think

02:48:16.900 they should be involved in sports you're there uh here moving on then um you wrote you are all about

02:48:24.740 i guess me and andrew i guess you are all about culture wars which spread hate and divide our country

02:48:29.940 you used your show to promote trump because you're dumb enough to be brainwashed by a con man now you're

02:48:36.380 going to have to come to terms with not only helping get a predator criminal con man grifter elected but

02:48:42.960 also with the fact that you will forever look like a dumbass for falling for his bullshit so you wrote

02:48:48.640 that yeah that's true that's true it is because yeah what do you mean predator yeah i was gonna ask what

02:48:55.420 you mean predator criminal i mean yeah he all things point to that i mean he nothing points to

02:49:03.380 that should we bring up all of the other things sure i mean just the fact that he said he drained the

02:49:10.640 swamp and bring that has nothing to do with being a predatory he was um barred from even having a

02:49:16.860 um a charity in new york because of a fake charity um a fake university predatory criminal what does

02:49:25.300 that mean predatory predatory like he's he um went into um the dressing rooms of of uh miss universe

02:49:37.200 where there are minors and miss usa miss yeah whatever no there's no minors there that's an adult

02:49:43.240 beauty pageant it starts at 16 but also it doesn't matter um if it's teenagers dressing and and

02:49:51.340 brag basically bragged about um getting a pass because he owns owns it that he can go and see

02:49:58.340 all these beautiful women changing and stuff and he gets a pass yeah he's he's running a beauty pageant

02:50:04.060 for beauty and gets to see beautiful that's crazy to me why that's us why would you watching women

02:50:11.240 change it's not predatory to you without their consent what and like him without their consent

02:50:19.300 it's without their consent how many of these beauty queens have come forward and said that donald trump

02:50:23.840 was in there spying on them without their consent there's a lot of stories from people that said that

02:50:28.700 they they stopped um going to the pageants because of the yeah name one of the i don't know the names

02:50:35.680 of them i've seen several interviews of of how they were treated in the pageant and it connects

02:50:42.780 with jeffrey epstein and the whole modeling world and it was a different time that um yeah there was a

02:50:50.240 lot of yeah and yeah there was a lot of uh creepy shit going on and several like 26 different women

02:50:58.400 came forward um saying that all frauds oh my god see that's where see this is what where the epstein

02:51:07.720 class comes in is rich people never have consequences for everything and they say oh people are doing it

02:51:13.720 for power for money um or yeah political reasons but a lot of these people came forward way before he

02:51:22.060 was political um which ones um the 13 year old that you mean the one that's not credible

02:51:29.820 who proved that she wasn't credible she did when she retracted her no it showed there's a there's an

02:51:36.800 interview that shows her lawyer saying um the reason she retracted is because she's getting threats

02:51:42.760 and oh yeah what's he supposed to say she retracted because she's a fucking liar but there's also proof

02:51:47.740 of all of the epstein survivors and still now what's the proof getting threatened what's the

02:51:52.760 hang on what's the proof that trump in any way shape or form was involved with a cover-up of a

02:51:59.240 pedophilic organization because that's where you're going right because his actions are proof and he's

02:52:05.400 like there's still just a small portion of what's the proof redacting stuff that should not be

02:52:11.140 redacted mostly 90 of the redactions plus you can go to michael tracy's twitter to track this

02:52:17.220 most of the redactions in the epstein files are because victims demand them and that's not what

02:52:23.560 the victims are saying which ones for what which ones are even victims virginia guffray was not a

02:52:30.180 victim yeah i don't know she claims she was a victim but she was a fuck she's a chronic liar

02:52:35.720 she's a fucking chronic liar and uh that's documented the whole republican party is like trying

02:52:41.340 yeah he's legit he said there was no um how do you say accomplish it not um accomplices uh

02:52:50.420 what's the word that they're using oh he said that no one else was involved in sex trafficking

02:52:55.840 and um there's we don't have any evidence of any sex trafficking yes there is okay tell me who who was

02:53:02.860 sex trafficked their names are redacted so your evidence is you don't have evidence that the

02:53:11.160 evidence is is that uh pam bondy and and what's his name uh cash cash they under oath said that there

02:53:20.020 was not any accomplices or a list of any kind and thomas massey uh-huh says differently he's seen the

02:53:28.100 files he said he's willing to say the name the same thomas massey who along with ro kanna decided

02:53:33.440 that they were going to unredact the names of four innocent people and those innocent people

02:53:37.800 got completely fucking inundated according to their lawyers with death threats and everything else

02:53:42.380 because they were assuming that they were part of a massive pedophilic cult that doesn't exist

02:53:47.320 yeah um the law that they put saying that no people except that we're victims like the women

02:53:56.900 children what are allowed to be what victims don't have to memorize because they're listen

02:54:03.800 i'm just going to tell you right now here's what we have for evidence you have zero evidence yeah

02:54:09.340 because trump's covering it up covering how how is he covering it up there's redactions the law of the

02:54:16.580 uh the um was the atstained transparency here's what trump's in the files doing trump is in the files

02:54:24.520 assisting law enforcement against glane maxwell that's all that he's in the files doing wrong

02:54:29.020 periods in 2000 in 2006 or seven whenever he made a statement saying oh i'm glad you know i've that

02:54:38.140 you're doing this investigation blah blah blah but and said he cut off um trump cut off epstein from his

02:54:45.480 life but then the epstein files show that like up to 2016 that he was still in contact and a few times

02:54:52.520 hung out with epstein so first of all this is insanity let's back up let's start with this

02:55:00.500 who are you accusing donald trump of your are you accusing him of being a pdf i say that there's a

02:55:09.480 either he's a pedo protect protector which is i would say 99 percent likely now give me your evidence

02:55:16.980 your best piece of evidence what is it his actions since all of the actions so what's your

02:55:24.340 best piece of evidence that it was a democratic hoax first of all the democratic hoax is that

02:55:29.880 they're calling this guy a p and he knew it by the way he knew that the second the files were released

02:55:35.220 because of all the redactions democrats are going to run and say that he's part of a pedophilic ring

02:55:39.940 even though we have no evidence of that at all we don't have the evidence because they won't give

02:55:44.320 it to us so wait a second so you don't know i think that you're saying pedophiles hanging out

02:55:48.820 with pedophiles yeah add all of them the women that have came came forward which ones which ones

02:55:55.160 do you find credible which ones i find them all credible until we see the fight until we actually

02:56:01.040 see what and the invest how the investigation actually name uh name them uncredible because it's

02:56:07.840 the same people they did name them uncredible the same people who gave uh epstein the sweetheart

02:56:12.920 deal no those are the ones this is fbi investigators who are investigating this first the fbi that lied

02:56:20.220 on the stand about about there being no co-conspirators who were the co-conspirators um massey says there's

02:56:28.820 at least six of them that he's uncovered so far okay and he's gonna name them he has to be in the senate

02:56:33.960 to legally name that oh got it so so there are no co-conspirators that you can name you just made

02:56:38.500 it up because they won't give them to us but right i listen to thomas massey and all the other people

02:56:43.780 that have read the files are saying that here's the thing and if you take mtg you marjorie taylor

02:56:50.180 i know for sure that you're a pdf i can't prove it though because law enforcement won't give me the

02:56:55.160 evidence i need to show you that in his own words through several interviews throughout the years

02:57:00.300 all of the women that came forward the girl that said she was threatened which one of those girls

02:57:05.800 do you find the most credible um i mean i'd say all of them no which one specifically give me one name

02:57:15.680 of any of those girls that you found credible i don't know their names you don't know anything

02:57:19.960 about johnson nothing about there's kate what do you have every name memorized and you don't i don't

02:57:25.840 need to i'm not making the claim i'm following the actual evidence okay what evidence he's covering

02:57:32.180 up for his his friends show me the evidence where is it where can i look at it the lies that what lies

02:57:40.140 not that there even is co-conspirators that there is that yeah so you're saying that he said he never

02:57:50.920 won the plane he said he um lost he stopped he banned epstein he did ban epstein from his properties

02:57:57.600 not only that he worked with law enforcement he didn't work with them he made a statement he made

02:58:03.100 a statement which is someone who's covering up would do exactly that yeah why didn't biden release the

02:58:08.700 epstein files he's directly involved with that he's not a pedo i don't there's no proof of that yet

02:58:13.320 there's no proof that trump is you just made it up i didn't make it up there's women who have come

02:58:19.260 forward who said he did this thing who are and which ones did you find the most credible

02:58:23.180 the the the girl that retracted her statement um you found her why did you find her credible the

02:58:32.340 one who retracted her sworn statement because she was a minor and it directly involved epstein as well

02:58:36.800 hang on she did she make the claims when she was a minor did she make the claims when she was an

02:58:41.220 adult when people were getting millions of dollars in cash settlements when they said that they were a

02:58:44.860 victim of jeffrey epstein oh actually uh new new evidence have came out that have directly um

02:58:50.880 correlated her suing the epstein estate um around the time um the claims were made and it being

02:59:00.660 settled i don't know if you've read that again so yeah if she sued the epstein estate and won

02:59:07.000 during that time period um um nothing there was all kinds if there was no proof of that there was

02:59:14.780 all kinds of settlements which came out of the epstein saga but here's what did not come out

02:59:20.840 of the epstein saga at least thus far there is not a single shred of evidence that donald trump

02:59:26.360 participated in any sort of sexual activity with any minors at all nor that he was part of some pdf

02:59:32.880 ring nor that there even was a pdf ring and you know what evidence you have for this here's the

02:59:38.520 evidence you have for this i don't have evidence there's a lot of the okay which thing in the emails

02:59:43.220 which which things should can we look it up do you think i have it all go ahead i actually want

02:59:49.640 you to we can go through them one at a time you could show me the best evidence you have

02:59:53.680 that donald trump's a pdf i didn't say there's direct evidence of it so no evidence at them so he's

03:00:01.160 he's a pdf but you have no evidence he's a pdf first of all it's very hard to prove if someone

03:00:06.120 graped you or not um if you compare it to murder cases um where there's uh what they call it the

03:00:12.440 subs um what's the type of evidence sorry my brain's um circumstantial evidence all of you can

03:00:20.940 be convicted of murder without any actual dna without that's nice what's the most credible piece

03:00:26.680 of evidence you have donald trump's a pdf uh the women's statements that are connected to it

03:00:32.000 did you him being liable can we go can you tell me him being liable his own words of how he talks

03:00:37.880 to women him being held liable of grape uh the way he he was civically liable of sa yes he was

03:00:46.640 by our courts you know what i'll just grant you that donald trump has graped 300 women let's say

03:00:54.320 he's graped them he just did i'm just gonna logically i'll just say he did what's your best piece of

03:00:59.940 evidence that donald trump is a pdf and did anything i don't know for sure he was a pdf but i know he's

03:01:05.320 a pedo protector okay show me how he's protecting pdfs literally the proof is what's happening with

03:01:12.220 epstein files what's the proof

03:01:15.060 him lying about him saying that he was gonna um be transparent bring the epstein files out

03:01:27.440 he has brought the epstein files out uh after being forced by there there was enough votes to

03:01:33.600 where even if he didn't dan bongino goes dan bongino becomes the uh assistant deputy director

03:01:39.060 of the sb fbi he he comes out right he's done now he's back on his podcast he says you know why

03:01:45.500 there's all these redactions the victims want it there's there's porn in it right and uh lawyers

03:01:51.520 are suing for it so what are you talking about well lawyers suing doesn't make it against the law

03:01:58.300 yeah they can tie up redactions forever because they're victims if there's yeah they're supposed to

03:02:03.500 of course edit out the the people that are the victim like the female and all sorts of information

03:02:10.420 which can point to what their identity is which would be a massive redaction no that's why you uh look

03:02:17.040 i would love it i would love it if you redacted if you if they had unredacted files and could

03:02:22.560 release them i would love that i would adore it there's proof that they're redacting people that um

03:02:27.540 were guys that have nothing to do with the um i'll tell you what survivors let's try this

03:02:34.060 instead of the the conspirator shit let me just ask you this it's not conspiracy okay name one

03:02:40.620 of these people who you think is currently in government who's a pdf because of the epstein

03:02:48.600 files that you've read i think they're pedo protectors name one no no no that's not what i

03:02:54.500 asked you name one who's a pdf which pdfs are they protecting that there is any which pdfs are they

03:03:00.020 protecting the the epstein class the who who are they they're donors what are their names

03:03:07.300 nothing should i bring up the list go ahead i don't have their and then show me your most

03:03:14.820 compelling piece of evidence that they're a pdf go ahead

03:03:17.380 you're living in the midst of a left-wing disinformation campaign literally what about

03:03:27.680 mtg mtg saying the same thing the left wing the that the oh mt mtg who left disaffected from donald

03:03:36.220 trump she was all sorts of pissed off because he wasn't a golden girl she left because she

03:03:40.620 she realizes all a lie and that he's covering it's mtg and not only that let's point this out

03:03:47.980 it's really funny to me that suddenly oh the left is so concerned about supposed baby eating and baby

03:03:54.400 killing it's like they do that every day that's what the left does they kill they kill untold swaths

03:03:59.780 children and suddenly oh trump's at the head of a baby killing baby baby molesting uh you know

03:04:06.520 fucking empire people are more aware of i mean i don't know about that conspiracy but i think people

03:04:12.980 are more aware that both sides have been propagandad and we've all been lied to or both sides can agree

03:04:21.160 name for me the strongest piece of evidence that you have that donald j trump ever did anything

03:04:28.440 like this with children i didn't say there was actual then why do you say you're leaning towards

03:04:33.920 the circumstances point to that no they don't if a sheep none of the circumstances point to that

03:04:41.120 if a dude surrounds himself by sheep fuckers some and uh okay which okay so if he's surrounded by pdfs

03:04:50.200 name those people well he was friends with diddy he was friends with uh i've seen diddy i'm sorry was

03:04:58.340 diddy or was diddy charged with uh with being a pdf convicted of being a pdf

03:05:04.120 no no no people came forward about it uh-huh and and then he went to trial and then what happened

03:05:14.440 what happened at diddy's trial what did he get charged what did he get convicted of um sending

03:05:20.180 sex workers like across state lines so nothing to do with children well all i have to say is if

03:05:27.580 so do you want if you surround yourself with pdfs name one name one he's surrounding himself with who

03:05:34.140 you got to google it jeffrey epstein you told me to find them jeffrey epstein was not convicted of

03:05:39.540 being a pdf what are you talking about neither was glane maxwell they were convicted of trafficking

03:05:45.040 prostitutes a prostitute a minor is not a prostitute a minor's also not a prepubescent child and yes it's

03:05:54.340 true that jeffrey epstein should have been convicted for doing the trafficking to himself of people who

03:05:59.880 are being recruited at a local high school to have sex with him totally agree with that but this idea

03:06:05.300 that there's this massive their emails show that the emails don't show that yeah they do then show

03:06:11.160 me them show me the best piece of evidence you have that donald j trump is part of a pdf protection

03:06:16.800 ring and who the pdfs in this ring are who are they nothing i'm trying to look it up every time i do you

03:06:25.520 keep saying more shit you got you got to look it up because you don't have the facts on your side

03:06:30.520 what do you mean the facts on my side the facts show that he's hiding shit it's just pure incredulity

03:06:36.660 you have no evidence stupid yeah it's stupid because you have no evidence at all because they're

03:06:43.000 covering it oh because it's a big cover uh well that's an unfalsifiable literally the people who

03:06:48.560 have seen the files are saying that yeah they're freaking UFOs are real but i can't prove it because

03:06:53.540 they're covering it the government's covering it up literally the people have seen the unredacted

03:06:59.340 files say that there's at least six people so far that were involved

03:07:03.820 so therefore it's true there needs to be an investigation oh okay you can investigate it go

03:07:12.480 investigate it even though they were that's what all of the files are is investigations that's what

03:07:18.840 all of them are then do you think they're going to unredact the victims names you think they're

03:07:22.760 going to unredact most of these things i think that things didn't get investigated properly because

03:07:27.740 how do you know you don't even know the details of any of the investigations

03:07:30.560 you don't even know the details of the investigations and the email it showed

03:07:36.040 originally that there was 10 co-conspirators and it said where they're living and that they were

03:07:40.480 doing subpoenas and all of this crap okay let's back up okay what was epstein actually charged with

03:07:47.840 do you even know like sex trafficking do you know do you know any of the specifics of the case

03:07:54.980 what about the lane of the case i don't know the maxwell do you know any of the specifics of the

03:07:59.080 case she um she mostly trafficked the girls to epstein but a few times i think she actually did touch

03:08:07.440 the girls okay what are the do you know the details of her case of like what the the graping the

03:08:14.580 girl no anything any just give me any of the details of these do you know do you even know

03:08:19.860 where this occurred like where the epstein stuff occurred i mean somewhere in the island somewhere

03:08:24.240 in new york somewhere in his office it's all in florida basically i wasn't done speaking but

03:08:30.940 it's literally all over the place it wasn't just a really island so what was he charged with

03:08:37.000 i don't know then you don't know you don't know you don't know anything about any of these cases

03:08:42.640 you don't know anything about what's going on in the files you don't know anything about any of

03:08:47.460 these cases i do okay well then give me your most compelling piece of evidence every time i keep

03:08:51.900 trying to look up you have to google the evidence that you know so well every freaking name of the

03:08:57.500 people they've you don't have any names um yeah bill clinton was there there's no proof that he did

03:09:04.640 anything i i don't know the names let me look up the name i don't have it memorized does it make it

03:09:10.440 untrue that i don't have these douchebags names memorized no i'm not even asking you for that i

03:09:14.900 asked you for the details of the cases what your most compelling evidence is anything you can reference

03:09:19.120 you got nothing what you have is i was on if you've read all of the emails it shows exactly what's

03:09:24.240 happening i was on x oh my god i don't use x oh well i'm glad you asked you want to know what

03:09:29.340 happened what happened is a woman named virginia goofrey i know her okay do you do you know that she's a

03:09:36.140 chronic serial liar and that her story has more holes in it than swiss cheese she claims that she

03:09:41.240 was trafficked by her dad completely uh or uh completely unverified claims that she was great

03:09:47.460 not a lot claims that she was graped by two men falsely accused them of it how do you know it's

03:09:52.300 false because the police investigated it determined it was consensual she's made grape allegations

03:09:57.000 multiple times she's had to retract okay she claimed that epstein's lawyer graped her and then

03:10:03.120 had to retract that too she had to retract that dershowitz did this to her because and then she

03:10:07.560 said later well the thing is it's like i was just confused because i was just great by so many she

03:10:11.720 claimed she was with him for four years she wasn't with him for four years that would have been

03:10:15.020 completely impossible right you don't know anything about this you should just it's embarrassing it's

03:10:20.620 fucking embarrassing oh it's embarrassing for you i don't find it embarrassing that you don't know

03:10:28.040 what i find embarrassing is you're sticking up for administration who's obviously lying to us

03:10:33.300 and not following the they're not following the law that they were instructed to do are they they

03:10:39.020 lied about there being co-conspiracy what laws what laws the epstein transparency act says it doesn't

03:10:45.260 matter if it embarrasses them or that they have they can only redact the actual victims names

03:10:52.780 uh-huh and they're going against that and they're also not um yeah they're not and they have to

03:11:00.480 redact like the photo of someone actually they're gonna keep on doing these dumps they're gonna keep

03:11:06.600 on they they said they said that they were done and this is oh no there's gonna be more and by the

03:11:11.820 way that was it let me point let me point this out to you too right you don't even know what's in

03:11:16.600 them all you've seen is what dummies are posting on x i've i don't use x first of all i've

03:11:22.760 i've read a lot of these emails okay which ones did you find there's like a torture thing where

03:11:29.040 they talk about like a and they're a nine-year-old um there's um what you don't know what do you mean

03:11:38.100 nothing now you know that's the thing is like i don't have it all memorized i've read i've read

03:11:44.260 i didn't read the entire i didn't read so much on things that they just clearly don't know shit about

03:11:49.820 like you don't know anything about the epstein case nothing what do you mean i i literally

03:11:53.220 get updates on all the files all the time and read through what the updates are how come you're not

03:12:00.520 familiar with any of the content of it my brain doesn't memorize things easily that's why do you

03:12:05.740 read if you can't maintain i don't read i watch the videos and then i read what they found and fact

03:12:10.900 check it because my brain what's the point if you can't remember it my my brain processes stuff

03:12:17.980 processes stuff through videos because that's a dyslexic look not everybody is going to be is

03:12:23.560 going to read something and then memorize it sure you can use video but what's the point of doing that

03:12:28.660 if you can't remember the details of any of the things that you just watched i don't have their

03:12:33.220 names memorized not even asking for names details of the case what are they charged with what are the

03:12:38.020 the one who spawned all of this which is virginia guffray what you don't know any of it and it's

03:12:45.680 like what a waste of time anyway i'm gonna go have a smoke literally i mean they're out of i'm supposed

03:12:57.740 to have all of these these memorized when there's like millions upon millions of documents that i'm

03:13:03.180 reading every day i'm supposed to like i i don't know that conversation is not my i don't know

03:13:10.940 anything i don't really know much about it i can't really speak on it i think andrew was just looking

03:13:16.160 for uh like what's the evidence that he was looking for the evidence the evidence i never said that the

03:13:26.020 evidence that he's covering shit up i think is there i think andrew's frustration might have just

03:13:30.900 been uh you at least he was looking for evidence like what is trump's involvement in all that and

03:13:38.140 again i'm not an expert in this so i i don't know the details he's involved in covering it up at the

03:13:43.040 very least but but so what's the evidence for that him calling it a democrat hoax and saying that he

03:13:51.160 doesn't want you to even um follow him anymore if he yeah if you and every time the epstein files

03:13:59.960 are brought up he like wants people shut up about it he um he was he was he was he lied about what was

03:14:10.680 in the files and he um yeah many times he lied about his relationship with epstein because there's

03:14:17.920 now proof out that uh their communication and stuff did not end when he said it it did he lied about

03:14:24.220 being on the plane um all all kind i think i think i don't know the details of it i mean i'm and then

03:14:32.680 yeah but like his his own staff lied about but hold on really his staff lied on on the stand logically

03:14:38.720 um can somebody lie about something but they not be guilty of like an uh a different unrelated crime

03:14:51.560 yeah i mean they that's why i said that's why i said at minimum he's covering up if like if trump

03:14:59.940 has lied is that evidence of like something else sinister or also by the way sometimes either

03:15:10.180 misremembering things or you know isn't necessarily a lie yeah but i think like if i were to say if he

03:15:17.380 lost communication in 2008 and it comes out that he's was talking hanging out with trump in 2016

03:15:23.820 i think that's a pretty big lie but if somebody said like have you ever hung out with somebody by the

03:15:29.080 name of quincy smith and you don't remember them i i get where you're going look again i'm not i don't

03:15:38.180 know how to parse all that stuff it's not really a focus of my attention but it does occur to me that

03:15:44.420 if somebody could approach me and like interrogate me and be like do you ever recall meeting uh you know

03:15:51.900 somebody by the name of jackson mcdougall and be like no well hold on here's a photo of you

03:15:59.060 with jackson mcdougall 20 years ago at some frat party and i'd be like

03:16:03.680 okay yeah sure i guess i get that i get that but i don't know as someone with a someone who's very

03:16:11.920 forgetful obviously i don't know about i think it's a pretty big lie to to cover up several years of

03:16:17.680 relationship pretend you're never on the plane um i i think and then and then trying to yeah all of the

03:16:25.060 rest of it all directions point to that he's covering up there is several people on his staff

03:16:32.360 were found to be in the epstein files too i don't know there is that i guess my anyways whatever i'm

03:16:39.780 i don't know yeah anyways we'll move it on to a different topic i'm just i'm just sick of this

03:16:45.680 narrative that lefties have that donald trump lefties that donald trump is a pdf and he's protecting pdfs and

03:16:53.960 they never have any fucking evidence they can never point to anything and the best that they

03:16:58.020 can come up with is andrew must be protecting pdfs because he says there's no evidence dgt

03:17:04.420 ever did anything with children and there's not if there was no evidence then why didn't he just

03:17:10.440 release the files he can't you can't unilaterally do it it just um the law says you have to redact the

03:17:17.020 names here's the other thing let's say that let's say that he's hiding them for some reason we don't

03:17:21.600 know let's just say that we are that he is right the absence of evidence is not evidence for you

03:17:28.420 that trump ever did anything with anybody and i'm tired of the libtards doing everything they can do

03:17:35.560 to pretend pretend like they didn't have fucking presidents before who had access to these same

03:17:42.120 files refused to release them suddenly oh yeah sure that's what the deep state is yeah so here's

03:17:48.840 here's the thing that's going on right uh you don't have any evidence that trump was part of

03:17:54.640 any pedophilic ring you don't have any evidence that trump's a pdf you don't have none nothing and

03:17:59.640 you're not even familiar with the files yes i am i've no you're not literally stayed up to date with

03:18:03.920 all the information just because i don't know any of it yes i do okay whatever you say the thing is

03:18:09.500 let me let this chat come through let amiel donated two hundred dollars to prove i'm not stupid and

03:18:15.940 show andrew my support love you man you are the closest to charlie to me thanks man i appreciate

03:18:22.660 that now for the whatever audience so that we're clear on my position here i would love if all the

03:18:28.160 files came out unredacted i think that that would be great okay but here's the thing in the interim time

03:18:34.660 you're not going to come to me with zero fucking evidence and say that the president's pdf because

03:18:40.220 the left has been running this gambit for the last year straight with no proof and that is an op and

03:18:47.280 it's a disinformation campaign and so when i put these people to the question the reason that i do it

03:18:52.520 as aggressively as i do is to prove they have nothing from which to base this on zero it's all just

03:18:58.960 well we don't have evidence so therefore it's true and it's fucking crazy isn't sir no there's

03:19:04.860 how many women have come forward and how many creepy statements has he made he admitted to

03:19:09.960 tell me tell me this the one the woman who came forward who you think is the most credible please

03:19:16.160 i think because of the massive amounts of people that have came forward there needs to be further

03:19:24.000 investigation um and celebrities have plus him all of the lies plus of the people who are pedos that

03:19:31.680 he's hung out with several of them which have been found to be in the epsom files um i think if you

03:19:37.520 hang out with pedos well which ones are the pedos he's hanging out with um there's no direct evidence

03:19:43.900 because we don't then why do you keep saying he's hanging out with pedos because he's hanging out with

03:19:48.140 all the people listed in the files he's trying to keep more evidence of what actually happened away from

03:19:53.280 the public he's lied about his relationship with trump after he was already convicted let me make

03:19:59.380 sure i got this right he said he cut off trump for i mean off i've seen for being creepy but then

03:20:04.260 there's there's proof that he was still like so let me just chill with trump in 2000 i mean with

03:20:10.160 epstein in 2016 can i just make sure i got this right trump's a pdf you have no evidence that he's

03:20:14.300 a pdf trump hangs out with pedof pdfs you can't name a single thing you can't stop stop you can't name a

03:20:20.020 single pdf he's hanging out with your evidence that he's hanging out with pdfs is that you don't

03:20:24.760 have any evidence that he's hanging out with pdfs and your evidence that he is a pdf is that you don't

03:20:29.480 have any evidence he's a pdf brilliant all right dude i'm brilliant i'm so fucking dumb yeah no i don't

03:20:36.580 think i'm the one who's so fucking dumb circumstantial evidence can get you convicted of murder

03:20:41.200 yeah it can that's true grape is like pretty much the only exception to where like the laws are

03:20:49.520 different to where you can't have someone uh say this is the person who did to me um so believe all

03:20:54.580 women don't believe all women i think so believe women based on evidence yeah okay then give me your

03:21:00.380 most compelling piece of evidence from one of these women

03:21:02.520 there's of of what trump yeah most of them said that they didn't he didn't do anything of them

03:21:12.600 what i'm mostly saying is that we need i said it most likely he's a pedo protector but if he didn't

03:21:19.440 have anything to hide then and all of these 26 women are are false and refer to him as a predator

03:21:27.060 criminal i think it's predatory to to speak about dating um i think it's predatory to call the

03:21:34.780 president pdf with zero evidence but um it's predatory to say i'm going to be dating you in

03:21:39.000 10 years to a 10 year old i think it's predatory to go into locker rooms where teenagers are changing

03:21:43.580 show me the locker rooms where there was teenagers he walked into that were changing he admitted to it

03:21:48.620 can you tell me what can you tell me a single locker room he walked into where teenagers

03:21:52.600 were changing it was his um the trump campaign does deny deny it by the way they denied the

03:21:58.960 allegations he literally said it he said something on howard stern about the miss usa pageants yeah he

03:22:06.100 wasn't saying anything about teenagers there are teenagers and it's without and it was without

03:22:11.960 consent but it was contestants who alleged that trump entered changing rooms while they were

03:22:16.720 addressed but trump's campaign he said it denied the allegations but he said it on howard stern before

03:22:22.500 ai existed yeah let's just grant is that not predatory let me just grant it let's just grant that

03:22:28.380 trump used to like to peep at women at the beauty pageants and watch him change okay and then add all

03:22:34.460 what's the most credible woman that girl that has accused him of essay the girl that won civically

03:22:41.920 about sa in court who i don't remember her name you know the girl that got um finger banged oh you

03:22:51.520 mean the one who named her cat vagina and is a lunatic well the courts who whose name of course you don't

03:22:58.200 know dude i don't remember stuff that way what i do remember remember is the details of what she

03:23:05.880 alleges happened and who she told people about there was not a single piece of evidence the court that

03:23:12.860 was a mickey mouse ass trial our peers followed the evidence and voted in her favor no no no no first

03:23:21.260 of all they didn't find him guilty of a single crime what happened is different than guilty he got a

03:23:25.980 fucking he got a pro it was a process thing in civil liability which is easy to prove and by the way

03:23:33.500 she had all sorts of coaching she's she's a lunatic she said that grape was sexy no she didn't say

03:23:40.520 yes she did see you're taking uh her words and and mixing it she said men think that way if you

03:23:46.860 watch the full interview she does i watched the interview she said that it's sexualized and and

03:23:52.320 she's crazy that woman is crazy as shit and well the courts disagree and even then right what is the

03:23:59.780 most that had nothing to do with the epstein files what is the most compelling evidence that you can

03:24:07.200 cite in the epstein files that trumps a pdf what i said most likely that he's a i said predator i never

03:24:15.460 said pdf you did you said it i'm leaning towards the is due to the circumstances of the way he speaks

03:24:24.160 about minor women the way he barged in on teenagers all of the women who've come forward um and then

03:24:30.280 the fact that he's lying about what's in the epstein files uh telling his base i don't want you to follow

03:24:37.780 me if if so your most compelling piece of evidence you don't have any evidence okay no literally there's

03:24:43.020 proof in the files that he kept communicating with epstein and hung out with him in 2016 that he lied

03:24:49.160 even if that was all true what's the most compelling piece of evidence he's a pedo

03:24:54.720 protector and he has predatory behavior okay it is you said i'll give you if let's give you that

03:25:02.360 him barging in on naked women is predatory i never said he grapes little kids i never said that

03:25:09.400 he's at least covering up for them yeah we can move on to the next thing tilt your mic down and

03:25:15.000 straighten it for me tilt it down there you go okay uh here uh you said it's like talking point

03:25:21.040 just lefty talking point you write uh you wrote here there's a great way to can awakening happen

03:25:28.080 everyone is done with culture wars and bullying each other we are going to come together to fight

03:25:32.500 the corruption bullying is out identity politics is out blaming each other for our government's

03:25:37.280 corruption is out and soon if you meet brian don't change your angle you'll be out too hope you

03:25:42.620 have some savings lol so that was just you hoping that i uh like come into financial ruin i don't

03:25:49.840 hope that happens you said hope you have some savings to indicate i hope you do have savings uh

03:25:54.060 i guess uh because these are unrelated the dating the dating discussion i don't know okay whatever

03:26:01.880 you also wrote looking candace and tucker they stopped engaging in culture wars

03:26:05.800 accepted they were wrong and now we're at the top but you had a chance to talk about real

03:26:10.960 issues and stop the bullshit that's why i was mad you left me on red and now you're destined to be a

03:26:15.380 has-been lol destined to be a has-been okay well eventually when when um i mean who are you

03:26:22.140 never has been a nobody no i don't know my point of all of that is um we can all agree that we've all

03:26:32.560 been propagandized and podcasts fell for that propaganda on both sides and you contributed to

03:26:42.860 what's happening now and so many other people did and like the majority i watch a shit ton of right

03:26:49.280 wing majority of them agree that they were wrong and about what about trying to elect trump

03:26:56.480 yeah that that they got bamboo should i have pushed no no i think they both suck but who should

03:27:04.980 have but i think of the people that no i also it's a bit of a post i know i think i think that

03:27:10.540 new revelations i think that the people who keep fighting for trump um even though there's a thousand

03:27:17.360 things like everything you can't panned on for the most part other than i think the border like he

03:27:23.980 he's basically i think he should go harder on immigration to be honest i think he's not doing

03:27:28.580 enough on immigration i think for the amount of money that we're paying for extra money for ice

03:27:34.360 um he should be pulling higher numbers considering yeah nice to deport more people yeah i mean we didn't

03:27:41.660 have to pay all this extra money because the other administration they weren't doing anything

03:27:45.280 they deported way more they had an open border and more came in well you think but somehow there's

03:27:52.780 wait wait so so so where are all of these people that came in if they can't find them they're

03:27:57.980 stopping all of the other administrations first of all they're being stopped at the border and the

03:28:01.380 second is that's great there's way less border crossings because trump will collect their ass and

03:28:06.640 deport them yes i give them credit that that's great uh but uh sorry i gotta move it on um hey it

03:28:12.900 is what it is for sake of time uh you also said congrats you're now in my top five douchebag youtubers

03:28:18.620 you listed it andrew tate ben shapiro andrew wilson me and brian alice uh and then nick fuentes and

03:28:25.980 then you said congrats you're more douchey than nick fuentes i said i said that because at least

03:28:31.000 nick keeps it real my issue was is you call him a douchebag and now he keeps it real he keeps it real

03:28:37.880 well he may have to she my issue was at the time is i felt like you okay my observation

03:28:46.580 is that i what i what is that like you

03:28:51.560 had all these talking points for maga and when i brought i mean to get him trump elected and all

03:29:00.520 the stuff but there's certain people in the mainstream really i okay well i mean you weren't

03:29:06.820 that much but and your election night stream yeah well it's more like that was mostly the same

03:29:11.960 questions that everyone else on the right was saying um which did contribute to more questions

03:29:17.820 um about what is a woman was was that trump propaganda um no um let me continue what i was saying

03:29:28.320 is that there's certain people don't worry just focus focus i'm trying to but every time i'm

03:29:34.500 trying to get to a point miss yawn every time andrew's cooking just yawn okay go ahead continue

03:29:39.620 i'm not trying you look there you look you're looking dude like this is my brain i'm not trying

03:29:44.260 it's okay go ahead hey wait a minute it well every time i'm trying to say something you're

03:29:50.940 interrupting me back i've been trying to be better about not interrupting but every time i'm about

03:29:54.900 to freaking say something you have to say more shit until i forget what the fuck i'm saying

03:30:00.180 i'll move on um no see exactly what you lost your train of thought it happens to the best of us

03:30:06.900 you want me to answer you haven't even got me let me answer what i was saying it's prattle no you

03:30:12.840 haven't even let me answer i'd let you answer no i never even got to my full point before you

03:30:19.140 keep keep interrupting it okay well just for sake of time trying to explain about the nick fuentes

03:30:24.240 thing blah blah because nick fluent first of all nick fluentes literally we're not talking about nick

03:30:29.420 at this moment it's because that what i was trying to get at is i wanted to talk about real things and

03:30:36.180 have real people on the podcast and every time i brought up james tallarico um you shot it down and

03:30:43.660 i didn't try and then after after the trump and after trump became president i don't see anything

03:30:51.260 talking about what actually is happening in the administration that could be bad for trump and you

03:30:57.060 helped him get elected the majority of everyone else who helped him get elected are now i have a

03:31:02.440 dating podcast i did an election night stream with andrew and look i lean conservative but uh well my

03:31:09.380 dating podcast is not i don't know how okay well i mean my issue was is that yeah i when i see people

03:31:18.100 let's say him do you think kamala would have been better than trump i think it would what were our

03:31:24.420 choices both shit i think that kamala would have been like another biden too many people would have

03:31:30.480 came in but it would have been fucking terrible yeah and also i've seen a lot of uh you know free

03:31:37.580 speech has opened up quite a bit since um what about tiktok and what about the fcc and yeah tiktok

03:31:44.620 is now censoring epstein trump the border no don't say i'm all over the place when i'm bringing up a

03:31:50.740 valid point about censorship but every time i have a good point you say moving on all these platforms

03:31:56.440 like from moving on from 2000 to 2024 there was like massive amounts of censorship on these platforms

03:32:06.080 yeah luckily since trump term two uh actually quite a lot of these platforms kind of opened

03:32:11.920 themselves up a bit in terms of their moderation policies massive broadening of free speech acceptance

03:32:18.800 here well that's great what about tiktok what what about it tiktok's a left like left leaning platform

03:32:26.120 no tiktok whoever bought it with is by uh well i'll know the line with trump and um the recently

03:32:33.880 changes there's still more leftists on there they're censoring the leftists no they're not yes they are

03:32:40.620 no they're not yes they are lady i do i go on tiktok and deal with more leftists probably than any

03:32:47.480 right-wing personality censoring certain subjects like epstein and yeah okay youtube censors certain

03:32:53.140 subjects too there's less free speech now that it's been bought than there was with china more

03:33:00.660 free speech there's more free speech i'm talking about tiktok and then him going after like suing

03:33:07.320 literally everybody and then the fcc they wouldn't let j again james tallery go on um the what's it

03:33:14.940 called whatever late night not jimmy fallon yeah the fcc said that they couldn't have him on because of

03:33:21.260 the uh fairness and yeah the fairness act and that's not a law who wanted that i don't know but

03:33:27.140 that's not even the law that's leftists who wanted the fairness it's not a law for for for um for talk

03:33:34.260 shows and they're not going after fox and literally it's not for talk wasn't that a policy wasn't that

03:33:42.240 a policy changed but the policy hasn't changed back you can't make threats and tell people they

03:33:47.720 can't have them on if you haven't changed the policy wasn't that stephen colbert said that um that was

03:33:53.460 that was his company who was like look uh the fcc came in yeah his his company said that the fcc told

03:34:01.460 him not to and and as his company has to um get um get approved to buy um well maybe leftists won't get

03:34:13.060 into the fairness act anymore than because they're the ones i'm just saying that there's and then then

03:34:18.260 him calling his administration saying there's a difference between hate speech and speech

03:34:22.380 and saying that they're going after people who use hate speech um you mean like the israeli thing

03:34:30.940 oh yeah that that's a good point too they're um not allowing college you know that's a point that

03:34:37.080 i'll grant you i will grant you the colleges thing i will grant you a point that it is bullshit

03:34:42.240 absolute fucking bullshit to say that um that it's the case that if you're anti-israel you're going to

03:34:49.560 get deported or you know something like this that's all fucking bullshit and i did think that saying zion

03:34:56.400 dawn then was a reasonable thing to do to push that administration back away from it but while i can

03:35:03.540 grant some of these criticisms right as being valid like that criticism i had it myself right i'm not

03:35:10.300 blind but the thing is it's like i'm still not going to let you call the guy a fucking pdf because

03:35:14.980 that's bullshit or protecting a pdf or i said predator did i not and i'm not going to allow you

03:35:22.340 to uh besmirch him on great policies like what's going on with ice based on the fact that people got

03:35:28.540 killed who were going out of their way to agitate is it a great policy for spending extra money

03:35:33.420 to deport less people and then killing people did you say spending less money sorry spending more

03:35:40.280 money to deport less people is that a good policy more money for border security um what about no ice

03:35:47.400 yeah yeah can you fact check that yeah you can fact check it it's okay you can look at that go ahead

03:35:55.660 but yes the truth of the matter is is that the amount of border crossings have gone way down i get i

03:36:02.300 grant that that's great yeah but the rest of it um with everything else that's going on everyone else

03:36:09.160 seemed to deport more people without yeah and their left is doing everything they can to tie every case

03:36:14.060 up they can in court they do everything that they can so the government has to spend all this money in

03:36:19.700 court fighting with the lefties well uh that's due process dude that's not due process it's an

03:36:27.020 obstruction it's literally obstructionist leftist policy they didn't give a shit under biden is

03:36:32.300 going to court was literally going to courthouses and arresting people during the court hearings good

03:36:37.320 while they're doing the right thing by going about the right way that's not the right way

03:36:42.100 following the law no the right way would not be coming here in the first place that would be the

03:36:47.440 right way not wrong way would not be showing first of all these fucking people show up they apply for

03:36:53.100 amnesty when they know they don't qualify for it they take advantage of the catch and release they

03:36:57.440 take advantage of everything they can possibly take advantage of you would do the same doesn't make

03:37:01.480 whether i would or not i also assume that the country that i was trying to get into would do the same

03:37:06.500 as my country is and throw my ass out yeah um that's what they would get to but they we have

03:37:13.220 due process and taking them out illegal immigrants have due process in certain ways uh

03:37:19.340 um while they're in court they don't even they're not listening to the judge's stance on it they're

03:37:25.380 literally picking them up from the courthouse while they're trying to do the right thing the

03:37:29.500 american way and that's not the right thing that's not the right thing the right thing is not to come

03:37:34.280 here illegally and then retroactively apply to stay that's not the right thing that's the wrong thing

03:37:39.160 so i don't know it's like oh we're doing the right thing it's like no you're really not doing the

03:37:46.440 right thing you're doing the wrong thing well i think they're also doing the wrong thing by

03:37:51.060 um going ahead why even have a border should we just open the border no well why not because

03:37:57.580 everyone would want to come and you just said like that you would want to come strong secure border

03:38:02.880 security but why because if there's too many people then yeah we're obviously fucked so grab them

03:38:09.600 and throw their asses back in their country yeah but due process the problem is is that

03:38:17.280 you can obstruct to the point of absurdity using paper warfare using left-wing ngos which they do

03:38:24.080 in order to perform paper warfare to stop even the most hardened criminals from getting deported

03:38:29.920 well i mean i think that's an issue with the system itself not you know that needs to be changed

03:38:36.220 it's left-wing terrorists like antifa oh my god you can roll your eyes but they're terrorists

03:38:42.500 allocated as terrorists they have been declared terrorists because that's exactly what they are

03:38:47.740 everyone who says they don't like fascism as a terrorist or what that's not what antifa is

03:38:52.780 antifa it utilizes the idea of unorganization while they are secretly organizing they use signal apps

03:39:00.720 they use all sorts of different things we've watched these protests live on my channel

03:39:04.160 many many many times you can literally watch them as uh they coordinate you can watch as people come

03:39:11.840 over and give interviews and most of them aren't even from the state they're from three state neighboring

03:39:15.820 states over they're there whipping mobs up in front of federal buildings to obstruct ice from doing

03:39:21.040 its job for no reason well although just trump's a fascist that's it where all where are all these signal

03:39:28.740 chats and stuff though well first you can go right this second to cam higby he has a uh an x account

03:39:36.480 go to cam higby he he went in and infiltrated the signal chats at these various locations has that

03:39:42.980 been verified yes not only verified but easily you can verify it right now you can read the chats for

03:39:48.860 yourself i'm not saying that people aren't doing that but to i mean it happens literally

03:39:55.140 yeah on both sides there's crazy shit happening but to label both sides again but what they're just

03:40:02.520 both sides no let me let me finish explaining real quick please there's right-wing people on signal

03:40:07.620 chats opposing immigration enforcement no i mean in different situations like um there's probably

03:40:14.420 left-wing people that tried to rile up their jam sixers and stuff i think it goes both ways

03:40:20.120 but to label still be one way to to label anyone who's like i i just want to know how many how many of

03:40:28.700 these uh hundreds and hundreds of thousands people protesting are domestic terrorists because like

03:40:35.780 there's like shadow dockets and stuff that um usually the ones who stay up after the protest is done

03:40:42.300 and start setting shit on fire burning cop cars setting up dumpsters fighting with police they

03:40:47.100 burned to uh what's the the bullshit in california in los angeles they were dropping rocks on cop cars

03:40:55.240 they did set them on fire they were setting they were setting fire to local shops we watched it all

03:40:59.920 live wait in california yeah elm riots peaceful no no no she grants that i guess no um what was i

03:41:10.320 saying yeah yeah i lose my thought moving things on a little bit you said that to me i guess i guess

03:41:16.040 me and andrew you're a cancer on society but can't look in the mirror you're way worse than only fans

03:41:22.480 lol yeah um how am i worse than only fans because and why am i cancer on society well i don't think

03:41:28.820 i was really mad at that i already explained myself several times that i thought you didn't want to

03:41:33.380 have real discussions and uh you had no accountability to the trump thing so i think

03:41:39.960 it's a a cancer on society is uh dividing um left and right and women versus men um instead of coming

03:41:49.620 up for solutions to problems you play the blame game um based off of yeah and then you don't show a

03:41:56.340 broad picture of what's happening like i think it would be great to have dudes um in the same age

03:42:02.660 bracket um come on the show then just go start a show yeah i might do that um and yeah i just i

03:42:12.040 just think i don't think i think it's it's not just you it's the whole propaganda of the internet thing

03:42:19.320 and at that point in time i thought you were kind of uh not picking and choosing people who wouldn't

03:42:27.580 have like yeah who um um education or anything to be a good opponent you dm the whatever instagram

03:42:38.120 we let you on basically i mean if you can make it to santa barbara you want to be on the show

03:42:44.520 we pretty much let you on um and then yeah i i think that anything yeah we let you on

03:42:52.060 yeah i think 140 iq we let you on i think and people who uh make things um left versus right

03:43:00.480 and women versus men are doing harm to society um well really quick on that note so i think

03:43:07.400 this all would be i think we can just blame feminism entirely as far as they went too far

03:43:13.120 well i think i think there's a reactionary component where where uh you basically had

03:43:21.120 feminists on the offensive you had feminists who were belligerent you had feminists who were the

03:43:27.260 aggressors with their narratives with their attacks on men with their attacks on all kinds of systems

03:43:34.360 their their attacks on the family you know the even you might say well that you know that's that's uh

03:43:39.680 what was it stage three um what are the different the third uh third wave wave yeah uh no feminism

03:43:47.600 from its inception was anti-family you can go back into the 1800s early 1900s and find uh anti-natalist

03:43:56.940 anti-family uh perspectives in feminist dogma i kind of disagree with like that on the first wave

03:44:04.540 right but so feminism has always been uh antagonistic towards men and so if you start

03:44:13.500 poking at somebody they're going to poke back they're going to examine i get it one extreme causes

03:44:18.940 one extreme well yeah but so this idea that the blame would be on me if feminine if somebody is

03:44:24.600 attacking me i'm going to attack back and so i didn't you know i i i guess i just don't understand this

03:44:33.400 this criticism of people have like a sort of reactionary response to feminism when feminism

03:44:39.240 is extremely belligerent it has all the car it holds all the cards it holds all the power if you go to a

03:44:46.180 university and you would agree universities their systems they have their institutions massive power

03:44:52.100 they have massive billion dollar perhaps in total trillion dollar endowments at all these institutions

03:44:58.280 massive influence there's not uh manosphere classes being taught there's not red pill classes being

03:45:05.520 taught there's not uh men's rights advocacy being taught in universities it's all feminism it's all

03:45:12.580 women's studies gender studies feminist studies classes my message most people don't even take those

03:45:18.160 classes how would it matter it's not like it's it's mandatory it extends beyond just the classes

03:45:24.260 the administration it's all steeped in feminist ideology corporations the media the news it's all

03:45:30.860 steeped in feminist ideology and so it's it's interesting to me that you point to me in my podcast

03:45:36.620 and perhaps a few other pod podcasters who have anti-feminist viewpoints and you want to say that

03:45:43.480 you know this is it's literally david and goliath my message is i'm david feminism is the goliath

03:45:51.640 that i'm going up against i don't have influence i don't have power but these feminists they hold

03:45:57.020 all the cards they hold everything um i i get where you're coming from but um one extreme causes

03:46:05.000 a different extreme feminists went too far and then anti-feminism is not extremism it's counter

03:46:11.420 extremism well hold on let me well phrase that better it's counter to extremism well i'd say

03:46:17.440 i mean the first waves of feminine feminism even bad bad back then well i mean so back in my like

03:46:28.460 from my research um like in the 50s there was more drug use 50 percent of 30 to 50 percent of men were

03:46:38.540 creating a i mean we're committing adultery it was more common 50 percent of men there it said 33 to

03:46:46.680 50 percent of men were in the 1950s yeah and then women was i think like 20 percent the numbers have

03:46:54.180 gone way more down like i don't know where okay why are you laughing and then because those are

03:46:59.520 they're not dude everything's fake here i'll tell you what take a second okay pull those numbers up and

03:47:06.200 tell me where they're sourced i know you don't know that's why i'm asking you to do it i am i think

03:47:14.980 feminism is a cancer on society and i'm the antidote well yeah and andrew's the antidote i think

03:47:22.240 uh metal ground is probably the antidote like hey you went too far let's not try to take away your

03:47:28.940 right to vote or anything let's let's all chill out here i mean even foundational feminist authors are

03:47:34.860 like insanely misandrist they're anti-male yeah that's not family no no but it's not just like

03:47:41.100 if if the core people of that movement are like you can pull up quotes actually jake rattlesnake

03:47:48.260 released this really interesting video recently where he's like pulled these quotes from all the

03:47:53.020 like sally miller gearhart all these like foundational feminists and if you take a feminist class you're

03:47:59.200 going to read you're going to hear from them you're going to read their books you're going to read

03:48:02.500 their literature all from occult feminism by the way they are uh they're they're anti-male they're

03:48:08.900 man haters they're misandrist and this is like that's fucked up to feminism i mean yeah i don't call

03:48:15.880 myself a feminist like like i said when i came on the show before i was fighting against everyone

03:48:21.000 speaking to each other that way um i think their extreme caused this extreme and all i'm saying is

03:48:28.940 let's um nobody should be extreme basically um that isn't going to solve anything we should find some

03:48:37.180 sort of solutions like telling people it's not right to hate men telling people it's not right to

03:48:43.040 to hate women but the difference between me and a feminist is they would justify their contempt or

03:48:49.500 hatred for men i i don't even categorize i don't categorize myself as a misogynist i think women are great

03:48:55.660 i think women are great but you'll find a lot of feminists they love to justify their contempt and

03:49:03.000 hatred for men and that's the difference that's i can do i can do male advocacy without uh tearing down

03:49:09.480 women however feminists have a very difficult time doing female or women's advocacy without trying to

03:49:17.420 tear down men and that's the difference i think where it kind of uh blurs the lines for me is

03:49:24.760 um because there's like no dumb young men giving their viewpoints too so not only does it flame

03:49:32.460 frame just the left as dumbasses but it um also women um and hold on you've had the entire media

03:49:41.580 apparatus for the past 30 40 years if you look at sitcoms you look you look at the media you look at

03:49:47.360 commercials they paint men as these these sort of oafs the father figures the sort of homer simpson

03:49:54.240 uh you look at friends you look at sitcoms you don't have really good representations of a more

03:50:00.120 traditional masculinity in mass media you look at home they're just oafs you paint they paint men as

03:50:05.960 oafs so this idea that brian you're you're painting women in these ways by the way i'm giving women a

03:50:11.360 microphone to open their mouths i'm not making women look stupid if women come on the show but

03:50:17.080 everyone's a freaking you're saying the women are stupid well a lot of them are but i think

03:50:21.440 no i think a lot of dudes are equally as stupid that's my whole point have some of the dumbasses

03:50:27.660 on too like they're trump supporters in that same age group that would be awesome that'd be so cool

03:50:33.040 just give us because you're only why don't you start a show and only invite men on i would invite

03:50:38.920 some of and there's women who do that anyways there's women who do that same thing

03:50:42.980 yeah i mean that's y'all do make a lot of good points of things but i think um yeah i think you

03:50:50.120 should be able to see both sides of the dumbass dudes who are also being idiots it's equal there's

03:50:56.600 stupid men out there it's really an issue with our educational system more than left or right like

03:51:01.380 everybody is dumb like that's a problem we should solve it's a bit vague but you wrote that andrew's

03:51:08.340 been talking about all the shit and of course has grotesque views y'all only want to debate dumb

03:51:15.420 asses so what are andrew's grotesque views or did we already get into that i think we pretty much

03:51:22.000 already did it's just really the shit he says about periods and who should i debate i mean i know james

03:51:29.720 she wants you to yeah i know that guy but who else who should i debate um i know you debate people

03:51:35.900 of all types but um should i debate everybody hey maybe do a charlie kirk thing like situation

03:51:42.220 don't i do that don't i debate basically all sorts of people from all walks of life at all times

03:51:47.720 remind me what the question was because i had a point that's my question my question i was gonna

03:51:52.120 answer his you said that andrew had grotesque views oh just like the the i've heard him through a lot

03:51:57.960 of his stuff like um really basically he doesn't believe in democracy a lot talking about how's that

03:52:08.780 a grotesque view um talking about how there's a long plan how is not believing that democracy is a

03:52:15.780 great system a grotesque view because we have a constitutional republic yeah it's a constitutional

03:52:21.100 republic he said it's a horrible idea and then um it was a horrible idea christian nationalism

03:52:26.540 to take down i don't care about any of that i just care about one question

03:52:30.800 why is opposing democracy a grotesque idea when you're trying to replace it with that's not my

03:52:39.680 question opposing democracy so opposing democracy itself is not a grotesque idea um i don't think

03:52:46.880 that is but when you're using power to take away people's rights and uh not let people get married

03:52:53.460 and um yeah taking dominance and and you're talking about gay marriage yeah uh it's okay to be a

03:53:03.420 christian uh leader but um wouldn't that be coherent for the christian worldview though what that gay

03:53:12.940 people can't um from a christian the majority of christians believe gay marriage should be legal that's

03:53:17.740 not true i'll look it up and then look up what a nominal christian is too i know what a nominal

03:53:24.440 christian is but the majority of people aren't nominal you mean the people that go to church all

03:53:28.900 the time so so so if you say the majority of christians you're actually saying that nominal

03:53:35.480 christians yeah meaning people who don't practice their faith but the ones who do practice their faith

03:53:40.720 jesus never said you have to go to church yeah i'm not i'm not interested in what you think jesus said

03:53:45.080 doesn't make i'm interested in this what is a nominal christian someone who has a nomination

03:53:50.380 and goes to church regularly no the opposite a nomination huh a nominal christian oh someone

03:53:57.840 that doesn't have uh can't stop bro what i'm looking yeah so so yeah so when you're talking about

03:54:06.460 people who are not nominal christians though what do they say about gay marriage um some of them are

03:54:13.380 four some of them are against the overwhelming majority of them are against against but um

03:54:19.600 legally i don't know people actually practice their faith from from christianity but if you look at

03:54:24.500 the statistics 10 of people are are a christian nationalist out of the 32 or whatever that are

03:54:31.540 conservatives um it's like 40 of them yeah want to it's only 40 literally less than half of them

03:54:40.000 you like do you like democracy um in this current state i think it needs some revision but you like

03:54:47.980 it yeah how come people weren't allowed to vote on whether or not gay should get married then they

03:54:52.060 should be able to they were in states until the supreme court ruled that they know that but then

03:54:57.680 how come in all the states they should make an amendment including california they ruled against it

03:55:02.280 that was in 2014 and there was this yeah and they should re-vote it yeah so so all the christian

03:55:09.680 nationalist is saying is the same thing that it should be up to the states not the feds to make

03:55:15.480 a universal law in marriage but states and that the states should be allowed to vote it in or vote it out

03:55:21.500 because anytime it's left to the states they say no um i mean looking at the statistics it seems like

03:55:29.600 then you should if people actually got the chance to vote then they would then what would your

03:55:33.140 opposition to my plan be my opposition is uh like project 2025 what does that have to do with what i

03:55:39.980 just said my idea here is that you bring marriage back to the state and that people within the state

03:55:47.580 can vote whether or not lgbtq people can or cannot get married what would your opposition to that be my

03:55:52.920 opposition would be that we should make a constitutional amendment and then do that

03:55:58.200 like yeah the supreme if you don't like constitutional amendment to do what if you don't like how the

03:56:04.620 supreme court ruled then you have to like amend no you don't need to amend it that was an

03:56:10.600 interpretation and they can reinterpret it well then have them do that yeah that's the idea that's

03:56:15.960 what christian nationalists are proposing but you also said that you want the church to decide

03:56:20.460 uh um be responsible for marriage and that you don't want yeah that's a really good idea it seems

03:56:26.660 like a terrible idea to have the state responsible for marriage they haven't done a bang-up job have

03:56:30.380 they um i mean there's issues but i don't think the church like only allowing christians to get

03:56:37.160 married is is the no well you said that i've heard you in your interview talking about it if you wanted

03:56:43.260 to go and sign a contract with the state i don't see why you couldn't do that as a secularist you said

03:56:50.460 that they that um the church should like it shouldn't be um only the church should um be

03:57:00.040 responsible for marriage yes and people christians and the state should have no say yes for only

03:57:05.640 christians yes so everyone else can yeah i don't give a shit if secularists go and fucking go oh we're

03:57:11.320 gonna get married and divorced in five i don't care i don't give a shit but i thought you said

03:57:15.220 everyone else should i want christian i don't if i was a secularist you wouldn't allow anyone else

03:57:20.440 to get i think you conflate many things so let's let's walk the position through okay andrew's

03:57:26.460 position secular marriage is fucking stupid it's stupid it's meaningless it's not foundational i have

03:57:32.660 no idea why they do it you would be better off just walking out in the street with some random guy

03:57:37.220 and being like hey we're married and he goes yeah i agree that would be just as good but if you wanted

03:57:43.040 to if you just demanded that the state come in and you know intervene in your marriage and and have

03:57:49.780 contracts with you fine i don't fucking care what i'm saying is that i think christians should be able

03:57:55.680 to exempt themselves from state control and that should be governed by the church i mean yeah that

03:58:00.280 that's fair duh i mean it's a completely reason the problem with you is like you don't even know my

03:58:05.840 position no i do know that position because i've literally watched all the interviews straw man it

03:58:09.860 i i'm not straw manning it like you literally just said that you don't think anyone other than

03:58:15.900 christian should have the right to get married you didn't say it about the state in that interview no

03:58:20.760 you did not listen what i said was that marriage should go back to the church i don't consider

03:58:27.200 secular marriage valid i don't even consider it valid well any institution that will marry people

03:58:33.100 consider themselves christian yeah that's nice any anybody from my view who will marry two men

03:58:39.400 or marry two women or marry three people together that's not a valid institution for my view anymore

03:58:44.800 well i mean that's your view but that's right and i'm gonna rule from my view i'm gonna advocate for

03:58:49.920 the rule from my view not from your i don't fucking care about your view your view is dumb so i'm not

03:58:54.340 gonna advocate that we rule from that i mean all i have to say is that your view is highly unpopular

03:59:00.200 and yeah none of that basically yeah that's what leftists used to say about abortion too your view

03:59:06.380 is highly unpopular but guess what times are changing well yeah times are changing trump yeah

03:59:11.800 all of your little trump supporters the majority of the young people now against that project 2025

03:59:18.080 yes they're implementing a lot of it which is all christian nationalist beliefs but um when the

03:59:25.500 whole epstein thing happened uh it kind of derailed all of that uh to a point by design

03:59:31.880 what their project 2025 because dumb twats are running around claiming that trump is part of a

03:59:38.500 pedo ring just made up completely made up by leftists yeah i never said he i said he's a pedo

03:59:44.400 protector yeah whatever he's not you just made that up to you have no evidence of that either

03:59:48.380 literally literally the majority of all people in every country literally even on the right they

03:59:55.080 know that he's covering shit up whatever you're in a small part of the population i'll tell you what

03:59:59.940 that still thinks it doesn't matter i'm gonna end up being completely vindicated on it like i am

04:00:04.960 every other view i have i mean we'll see about we should take you seriously because after all your

04:00:10.420 views are completely coherent yeah i'm not being able to communicate when you reference things you

04:00:15.820 don't know anything about i do i don't have a great memory doesn't mean i don't know what i'm

04:00:19.340 talking about like i have dyslexia i haven't slept and i've never been in a debate and then y'all keep

04:00:23.720 before i even answer y'all say something else you've been in multiple debates on whatever i've watched

04:00:29.060 them i've been on whatever engaged in multiple debates yeah and then y'all kept trying to shut me

04:00:35.640 up before i got to the point look it's not my idea to have a two view i always do one v one debates

04:00:40.520 i didn't i didn't want to always i always do one v one but the thing is is like look

04:00:45.440 when brian's going back and forth with you i'm not saying anything i've been sitting here quietly

04:00:52.060 well i appreciate that but yeah i wanted to debate you and then yeah every time i try to say something

04:00:58.860 then get to my point then y'all say something to where i never get to my point and then we'll get

04:01:03.540 to your well move along moving along well do you understand though try to look at it from the

04:01:09.260 opposition view so i try to be real short and concise with the things that i say so that i can

04:01:15.620 reiterate what it is that i'm saying so that other people can understand it the best way possible

04:01:21.320 when somebody else is going like and then it's all incoherent and it sounds like babble

04:01:27.960 of course people try to reign that in i'm trying to be charitable though well i appreciate that but

04:01:33.580 um i'm never debated my brain thinks differently different ways than other people's brains um and

04:01:41.660 i'm doing the best i can and my i knew that i would not win the debate that's not my purpose of being

04:01:46.680 here my purpose is literally what i said in my beginning is uh follow the money don't vote for

04:01:52.660 the packs um literally all of that stop hating each other why ask for a debate if you i don't understand

04:02:00.440 i mean you reached out i knew that i wouldn't win a debate my my purpose here my purpose of being

04:02:08.100 here is not to change andrew's views is to put out my point with a greater message that that's um for

04:02:17.360 the truth of not don't switch to being dim or republic republican if it's uh a corporate puppet

04:02:25.700 versus someone who's not pick whoever's in the party that's not and um don't vote for the bad

04:02:31.900 person we don't got it uh you also wrote good job grifting off candace and charlie yeah i mean it's

04:02:39.820 but it was that was based off of him calling people murderers calling candace crazy and then you

04:02:45.260 reposting she is crazy she's an idiot and then uh literally she's objectively she can't even pronounce

04:02:51.920 the word she says she's so fucking stupid that doesn't mean that you're stupid i i don't i have

04:02:58.940 a condition that caused me to do that and neural neurological issues that cause neurological issue

04:03:04.420 is that she's fucking stupid well literally half the world believes more than the majority of people

04:03:10.540 know what happened is um the fbi is not really telling us exactly what's going on she's proven a lot

04:03:17.480 of uh lies that are going on totally right and when charlie kirk walked into rooms the light flickered

04:03:22.300 and he went to an x-men school and he was a time traveler i know i mean this is all stuff that charlie

04:03:27.180 kirk said so is he crazy too no it's all stated out of context always and that's the most charitable

04:03:34.300 why do you think candace doesn't debate with anybody she doesn't debate with anybody who will

04:03:38.880 challenge these views because she gets destroyed she's on pierce she's on pierce morgan all the time

04:03:43.580 him calling her yeah because she's debating with pierce morgan give me somebody like stephen crowder

04:03:50.900 she was offered she was offered thirty thousand dollars to debate with stephen crowder on their on

04:03:57.700 these various issues nope she's not going to do it right she's not going to debate with any of these

04:04:03.080 people but you're also not realizing that that there's like six other podcasters yeah all right i'll

04:04:09.420 see i'll see if i can she's not going to do it in fact in fact tell her she can bring in carol both

04:04:15.540 at the same time what about the other podcasters who are doing their own investigations can they come

04:04:20.600 on too who actually there's a several other people that who are also investigating and using their

04:04:26.960 platform with other people to find stuff investigating what what happened to charlie kirk well that's fine i

04:04:32.860 don't mind anybody investigating what happened charlie kirk they're backing you think there's an inside

04:04:37.080 job or what do you yeah at some some point i think our cei has been doing shady do you think it's tyler

04:04:43.940 who killed him he might have killed him yeah but i don't think he was the only one involved

04:04:47.920 um but i don't understand do you think erica kirk's a pdf too um there's some grooming text that came

04:04:56.620 out but i don't have any evidence that she's a pdf even though the person who those texts were to

04:05:03.620 literally said and she's an adult and has been for a long time that wasn't grooming you took it

04:05:09.400 completely out of content you took it completely out of content and what did you and that's what

04:05:13.460 she said at the time like most people who've been groomed she didn't see anything wrong with it but as

04:05:19.420 an adult she looks back and was like yeah that's kind of weird that is not true that is factually not

04:05:24.400 she literally said it was not grooming at all that she had a great relationship with her and she

04:05:29.840 helped her out that's what she actually said um what well no one no one's actually did you hear her

04:05:38.380 say that or what yeah not only that but where is it where's who who's ever accused erica kirk

04:05:45.680 where's a single victim you see you know this is my biggest problem with these people right

04:05:50.520 it's like they always they always make all these crazy yeah and the victim says they weren't a

04:05:55.780 victim saying i want to touch your butt and like stuff about vagines and stuff like that the victim

04:06:02.040 claims they weren't victimized she said at the time no she she claimed she wasn't victimized

04:06:09.080 so it's like that's the craziest part is like did you hear her come one day you know what i would like

04:06:15.940 like one day i would like one day for you people when you get involved in these fucking massive crazy

04:06:23.120 ass tinfoil hack conspiracies which by the way i love conspiracies and many are true the problem is

04:06:28.420 is like our our quality of conspiracy theorist has gone way down i don't know why but since the art

04:06:34.680 bell days it's just rapidly decreased i would like for there to actually be victims show me the victims

04:06:41.460 where are they of what of erica kirk where's her victims i didn't say she was a pedophile i never

04:06:49.800 claim a groomer though i mean literally if brian was on that if those texts were about brian everyone

04:06:57.120 would be calling him a groomer too uh-huh except or you except the victim that's kind of how grooming

04:07:01.980 works i was all right as well even though they're adults i didn't see anything wrong with it as well

04:07:06.040 when i said that's amazing because so now by this until later in life nobody can ever say they

04:07:12.060 were victimized let's say you have an uncle and say uh you know it's an older uncle and you're like

04:07:19.700 13 and your uncle's like you're very handsome or uh says to a woman uh you're you're gonna grow up to

04:07:28.320 be a beautiful lady or something whatever that's not is that grooming no but what's grooming is erica

04:07:33.060 saying i want to be inside your lady garden i think that's okay i don't know i ain't gonna defend

04:07:39.080 you know what i'm saying this is crazy she said i want to be inside your lady garden and she also

04:07:44.780 said she wanted to touch her butt and all like all kinds of stuff saying oh i haven't um okay that

04:07:50.580 shit might be a little weird now that's what i'm saying but i don't know the details i don't know

04:07:54.720 the details what's the context if i want to be inside your lady garden where's the context

04:07:59.800 bolsonaro donated 200 question for the near genius lady i don't think i'm a genius usually

04:08:08.100 handle situations where there simply isn't enough data to make a logically sound decision

04:08:13.000 but you are still forced to act wait i usually handle very simply

04:08:18.720 um like what i need more context to that that that's all you wrote that's all there is

04:08:27.920 um there's really no data for it and no context to anything i guess i mean that's kind of broad

04:08:38.380 um like i have a vote from the people i don't freaking know and consult other people and see

04:08:44.340 what they have to say about it like in your staff or okay literally i mean um okay um but i guess what

04:08:52.200 was the thing about the grifting off candace and charlie thing it's because i when i i wanted to

04:08:57.740 talk about candace and all of what was happening that was and also it was the james tallarico thing

04:09:03.460 um it was when i saw that you had uh were reposting like candace's interview that took me off because

04:09:12.900 he was calling her crazy i was trying to talk to you about candace and all this alternative months ago i

04:09:18.720 reposted i i posted right when he died and the whole candace thing it was like a battle it's like

04:09:24.660 i mean i get that yeah maybe posting charlie's stuff to you know uh keep his legacy alive but then when i

04:09:34.000 saw that you're reposting candace's stuff i was like dude like you won't talk about candace but then

04:09:38.800 you're reposting on the show no that's what i was saying on the show i was so saying i wanted to talk

04:09:44.140 about that i don't have any beef with candace no i don't think you do i mean i don't agree with her

04:09:50.320 on everything i don't agree with her on everything too but my beef was i was that i that that i wanted

04:09:58.000 how do you define grifting what is well i think posting candace's stuff but not being willing to

04:10:03.580 talk about her after a murder and stuff like i was mad that you you were leaving me on because i said

04:10:10.140 i want to debate and you said about what and i said only if you're willing to talk about um things

04:10:15.680 that are are deeper than uh dating and you had me explain everything i want to talk about you to

04:10:21.720 give prompts about what no you never said prompts so i i told you everything i want to talk about about

04:10:26.560 the corruption and and everything and then and uh yeah then you left me on red and then posted

04:10:32.960 candace's stuff i'm like dude he doesn't want to talk about it but then he's financially benefiting

04:10:37.320 off of reposting this stuff she was on the show and we posted the the full version uh the full

04:10:45.020 portion of her appearance but how do you define grifting i think the grift part was no no not

04:10:50.640 wanting to talk about what the grif define grifting grifting is making money off something in a um

04:10:59.000 in a immoral way like immoral how so is making money grifting in and of itself

04:11:06.640 um it can be everybody's a grifter i mean what do you mean it pretty much if you don't if i would

04:11:13.980 say if you're like spreading lies to make money or not willing only willing to talk listen let me

04:11:20.060 finish this when you're only talking about one perspective but not willing to have people on

04:11:24.320 uh who that wouldn't even be grifting but no but the the grift was that he was calling

04:11:32.700 everyone murderous i had an ulterior idea and i was telling you hey watch all these other people who

04:11:38.780 are showing evidence of this and this and this i think something might be wrong with this case and

04:11:43.660 and then um when he has all these disagreements about candace and the narrative i want to talk

04:11:50.200 about it um you don't you leave me on red but then you post candace's stuff uh posted her appearance

04:11:56.800 we repost old content all the time but i get that but it's literally the same time as all of this

04:12:01.900 everyone's making money off candace and charlie that was my issue with it i guess two things here

04:12:07.040 really quick my i think my definition makes money off of me too is that grifting if somebody gets

04:12:13.500 murdered and um and somebody else has an ulterior of uh idea of what happened and um i'm trying to get

04:12:26.520 get that out and then you're you're saying that um then candace would be a grifter um

04:12:33.640 to a point everyone's as far as candace's stuff with like the the assassination uh and andrew has i

04:12:41.520 said this many times i think it was yeah okay uh poor taste andrew has said this many times uh i

04:12:48.620 don't think that uh candace has forwarded any compelling evidence uh as to like alternative

04:12:54.420 explanations of the assassination perhaps there's coincidences perhaps but in terms of what's the

04:13:01.200 word you use that's why it's an investigation compelling evidence that's why it's an investigation

04:13:06.360 case affirmative evidence yes it's like where's the actual evidence look if everything is just

04:13:12.400 skepticism she's proven like several things that people are lying about ntps usa andrew would you

04:13:18.760 agree if like some evidence did come forward you'd be totally prepared to believe it in fact the weapon

04:13:24.060 alone the story with the weapon alone doesn't make sense with the 30-06 yeah because there's no way

04:13:29.080 a 30-06 could penetrate oh boy that plus are you talking about that ian care no it wasn't it was

04:13:34.420 well it was he was saying how he was he was apparently a ballistics expert um it's not just

04:13:42.020 one and the whole internet's talking about this yeah yeah but i except it happened with martin luther king

04:13:47.660 huh i saw your video this happened before with the same type of weapon with another political leader

04:13:55.380 who was and it did not penetrate all the way through and the reason

04:13:58.800 that you don't use cow bones and things like this is because they or ballistic jail you have to use

04:14:06.780 a pig spine and uh they in order to simulate what happens with a human being but this has happened

04:14:12.860 before especially if you're using soft point ammunition and which makes sense if this is a hunting rifle

04:14:18.120 it's sp ammo right that there wouldn't be any penetration the the entrance wound was quite was

04:14:23.340 actually quite large the timing of it though the timing of the firearm too doesn't have to have

04:14:28.420 an impact on the barrel or something it can have an impact on the twist but then if you add the

04:14:34.560 time frame to to what they said happened it doesn't make sense listen do you see do you see what i mean

04:14:40.160 though that's not affirmative evidence what you need is affirmative evidence what that means is this

04:14:44.860 here's yeah so here's the thing right it's just always endless investigations this was what

04:14:50.460 happened here's why i'm so skeptical i'll explain let me explain my reasoning i remember when the

04:14:56.020 steel dossier came out and i heard democrats in unison for two years say where there's smoke there's fire

04:15:02.060 where the smoke there's fire we need more investigations more investigations more investigations

04:15:06.720 things aren't adding up and where there's smoke there's fire more and it was all bullshit

04:15:11.000 the whole russia collusion thing total fucking bullshit from the ground up it was total bullshit it was a

04:15:18.360 complete hoax and it was a con job and at the time i remember and people forget but i was around i was

04:15:24.740 in i was doing political content at the time you don't want the reasoning i do i know all about this

04:15:31.300 what i'm saying to you is is that i remember them for years doing this and i remember a bunch of stupid

04:15:38.140 ass right-wingers falling for that psyop too and coming in and saying hey andrew look there are a lot

04:15:43.400 of questions you know they are bringing up a lot of valid points hey andrew you know they're and it

04:15:48.300 was all fucking a crock of shit and the never trumpers were all behind it too those are guys on

04:15:54.360 our side and it was all bullshit and so the thing is is like now when i hear people and they have

04:16:00.120 endless fucking questions but posit no affirmative evidence i instant stop i instantly don't believe

04:16:05.880 them instantly don't believe them until they give me affirmative evidence all they do is endlessly

04:16:10.960 call for investigations i want more investigations has proven a shit ton of lies from tps usa and then

04:16:17.300 there's i'm gonna assume that they're all lies that's not affirmative evidence of an alternative

04:16:22.220 explanation to kirk's murder it's not it's not that's why it's investigated there's a lot of shady

04:16:28.640 crap going on yeah more investigations well if no evidence is not being transparent and if the story

04:16:35.720 doesn't make sense it forces the public to go through the conspiracy route um candace has been

04:16:42.700 correct about like epstein's connection like things that before it was cool she was telling everybody

04:16:48.580 was she says that bridget macron is a man brigitte macron is a man based on a book it's based off of a

04:16:55.980 book by a lunatic who has been proven to be a lunatic many many times what do you mean this guy has all

04:17:04.060 sorts of mental issues and in yes also in court and not only that not only that you know what's

04:17:09.520 missing from all that brigitte macron shit a single pay a single piece of affirmative evidence a single

04:17:16.380 piece yeah i don't think that makes her crazy zero evidence i don't think zero evidence i don't think

04:17:23.200 that makes her i think it's necessary to do endless russia i don't think the condition is that she's if we

04:17:29.020 did it have evidence i mean i think i believe there is i don't think she's crazy i think she

04:17:33.720 listen i genuinely don't think there are people who are crazies online i genuinely don't think

04:17:38.940 candace owens is crazy i told my wife this we're arguing about it and i was like she's not crazy

04:17:43.700 she's just fucking stupid but people can't fathom that they they're like no it can't be possible

04:17:49.260 because she's popular this and that blah blah blah but think about this think about the incongruence

04:17:53.720 here why are all these men listening to a fucking woman to begin with that's insane and the second

04:17:58.900 thing she wrote a book about the second the second thing is is she was a former democrat operative

04:18:04.540 she was a former democrat yeah she was an operative she she was suing based on racial issues she had a

04:18:11.680 doxing website that was left wing left wing based the whole shift to the right we're all propaganda

04:18:17.340 the whole shift to the right is recent and it's like no look she's an opportunist she's an

04:18:23.340 opportunist and the most important part is just this and fuentes got this right with ian carroll too

04:18:28.600 right ian carroll is probably go back to delivering fucking pizzas okay these people are just not smart

04:18:35.720 i don't know what else to say they're not smart people

04:18:38.340 on the grifting thing the grifting thing well then the charlie but so i won't yeah because

04:18:48.880 because i had reposted some stuff around that time i do want to point out i i think

04:18:53.840 i would frame it as counter-narrative so people on your side the left i'd say your left okay sorry

04:19:02.760 it's not my side regardless of people on the left democrats liberals progressives whatever whatever

04:19:08.880 instead of just simply recognizing the tragedy for what it was uh almost immediately the other side

04:19:17.660 within hours started clipping him out of context to try to paint him as a racist sexist misogynist

04:19:25.320 transphobic etc in an effort to diminish or lessen the impact of his assassination

04:19:32.480 i agree with that and so and i had seeing that seeing this and also being like

04:19:38.360 you know like completely shocked by what happened we'd had him on the podcast two times

04:19:45.800 i and by the way when charlie came on he was a saint he was he was nice to everybody very sweet

04:19:52.780 people wanted to clip him and paint him as this monster and i was like well if they're gonna clip

04:19:58.520 him i want to push out like some counter narrative like here he is being really nice to these women

04:20:05.600 when they're accusing him of being this monster this sexist he hated women he was a misogynist

04:20:11.160 and so i was like let me push out that all the nice things like how how pleasant he was to the other

04:20:17.600 women panelists on the show when he came out while the other side wanted to paint him in a negative light

04:20:25.460 which i thought look you can disagree with charlie but it did seem a little despicable you know it did

04:20:31.960 seem like an effort to try to diminish the impact of what happened and you had people rejoicing

04:20:39.820 people who were happy yeah completely disgusting all those that was messed up dude like i had to

04:20:45.520 unfriend people who were like laughing me like being sad about charlie cook i didn't like charlie cook

04:20:52.220 but i would i cried several times because it was all fucked up i have a question for you

04:20:58.100 i have a question yeah you've done a lot of research on on me on andrew i i did a little

04:21:04.160 digging of my own not really digging i mean on your instagram you include a link to a website

04:21:09.440 oh that's my grandfather grandfather um he was one of the original uh metaphysical um authors before it

04:21:17.460 was cool but so he's not alive anymore so i don't want to anyone talking shit about my i'm not i mean

04:21:22.880 i'm not really going to talk shit yeah um you accuse me of grifting i suspect you accuse andrew of

04:21:29.140 grifting um me personally i think grifting would be uh doing something for profit uh say for example

04:21:37.000 saying something that you don't believe in yeah i agree with that so yeah like uh if you're larping as

04:21:43.460 like a conservative because you feel as though this will be my pathway to making money so i'm gonna

04:21:48.920 espouse a conservative viewpoint even if you don't believe it that that's what i would be consider

04:21:54.660 grifting uh if you happen to be conservative and you make money by doing it but you genuinely believe

04:22:02.420 that in which you are espousing that wouldn't be grifting no i said my only thing grift was

04:22:08.620 the candace part is what i said you because you promote you have a large fault decently large

04:22:14.400 following on instagram 20 000 followers on instagram uh and i looked at the website your grandfather

04:22:20.340 and uh it's interesting you accuse me of being a grifter i've never made any money off of that

04:22:26.840 what are you talking about i'm keeping my legacy alive his book i promote the website i don't make

04:22:31.840 money off that it's not it's not my money that's my family legacy well the estate i assume the you

04:22:38.140 said he passed away i'm sorry to hear that but the estate makes money like your parents like a

04:22:43.660 thousand bucks a month what okay which would i assume would pass down to you but i mean my i'm

04:22:49.620 trying to keep my family legacy alive well my research into that he had a your grandfather had

04:22:55.020 a heavy focus on esp psychic abilities yeah mind over matter claims i mean look at the cia there's

04:23:02.400 actually proof of that shit work i mean the c if you look at the cia they had programs like that too

04:23:07.800 like project his claims of like project that's one of them he had telepathic there there's there's

04:23:13.980 the cia used that program yeah and he talked about that cia program in his book but he sells books okay

04:23:19.940 but here's here's so okay he in his books it's influencing reality with thoughts developing extra

04:23:26.740 esp extrasensory perception healing the body through visualization telepathic communications

04:23:32.800 these claims are not supported by mainstream science uh he graduated from mit by the way he

04:23:39.920 claims that you could develop telepathy clairvoyance remote viewing precognition there's a lot of

04:23:45.800 psycho cia did the cia had these programs hold on here's where it gets a little iffy on the grift

04:23:52.180 um by the way i said i don't want to talk about reproducible scientific evidence that humans can

04:23:58.520 develop psychic powers just throwing that out there yeah look at the cia he claimed that he doesn't make

04:24:05.200 that claim he claimed through visualization that you could cure physical diseases speed tissue

04:24:10.140 regeneration fix chronic conditions eliminate pain immediately i don't want you to talk shit about

04:24:16.600 my grandfather i'm literally it's facts what does this have to do with me act is also claiming act

04:24:22.300 as a potent substitute for medical treatment it's pretty funny how defensive you get when people

04:24:26.480 attack you hold on hold on dude like did he he wrote my it's my grandfather's dead and you're

04:24:32.540 psychotronic power yeah it's a great book okay it's very popular so it's a great book also he claims

04:24:42.440 you can communicate with inner psychic entities now dude if no but y'all are religious you believe

04:24:49.540 in shit like that too like what's so crazy about it if the claim is like if he was pushing people

04:24:55.680 away from for example if somebody had cancer and he was pushing he never did that he uh which i mean

04:25:02.980 if you read the bible and stuff too no if you read the bible pseudoscience it says fasting and uh praying

04:25:12.020 especially long periods can heal you he literally a lot of the stuff that's in the bible he was

04:25:16.820 saying too that god can heal you he you know that did he claim that visualization can cure physical

04:25:23.460 diseases it's about your mindset um can cure cancer um did he claim that i mean i don't know if he

04:25:34.200 claimed that it will cure cancer as a chronically ill person uh when i was really negative in my life

04:25:41.400 didn't know what was going wrong with me um the sicker i got because i was so worried and like oh

04:25:50.020 poor me poor everything um i got this really negative place to where like i legit lost the ability to walk

04:25:58.120 and stuff and it took me finding the light again you could say god or whatever to where my uh chronic

04:26:04.500 illness like uh got better like three times better and that's not doing his technique just literally

04:26:12.000 not being depressed and stressed and um and like yeah stress actually kill there's proof that stress

04:26:20.860 will age stress will cause it's literally that but i think there there is a mind body connection in so

04:26:26.540 far as yeah like let's say you have you the healer yeah it does help right so like if you're super

04:26:32.940 stressed out versus like doing meditation relaxation exercises that can have an uh well it wouldn't

04:26:39.300 cure cancer i i think i don't think it would cure cancer either but i just find it interesting there's

04:26:44.080 a lot of accusations of grifting but you're promoting your grandfather's work what do you mean i don't make

04:26:49.500 any money off of it so it's not a grift if you are promoting his work which eventually would

04:26:56.640 it's like three views a month by the way would eventually financially funnel down to you the

04:27:02.780 three views per month from my my instagram is a grift okay if i made less money would i still be

04:27:07.420 grifting um no you would just be shit posting on the internet okay all right i guess i don't know

04:27:16.640 that's all i had on that i mean yeah like i you can literally see how many views my page gets even

04:27:21.680 though i have all those followers there's basically wouldn't that be irrelevant though basically zero

04:27:26.020 views but my dad asked me to put the link in and i did because i love my grandparents i love my

04:27:31.700 grandfather and um i don't want his legacy to die it's not about money i don't make money my family

04:27:39.380 barely makes money it's it's about loving my yeah but you want them to make money off of it and you

04:27:43.900 want it to get viewed right um yeah because let's assume for a second because it's my it's a legacy

04:27:50.260 right yeah so let's assume for a second it was wildly viewed and it was wildly bought is it a grift then

04:27:56.540 um i i guess it could be i mean my my thing is using someone else's uh misfortune or um of a situation

04:28:10.920 to make money um as you know like uh he's saying canis is crazy everybody's grifters and then me

04:28:19.860 trying to be like dude this isn't cool um like um then you reposting candace's stuff without

04:28:26.540 um it was the candace it's not the charlie part it's like because you know candace is popular in the

04:28:32.880 moment and um you not only reposted uh well i think if you're gonna levy accusations of grifting

04:28:41.200 i just thought that video post was a grift i think if you're gonna levy accusations of grifting

04:28:46.520 towards our direction i think it's fair to examine yeah but you want it to well even even let's assume

04:28:53.160 you didn't it could all be free i still i still have it on the page you know what even if we put

04:28:57.880 grifting aside my objection to the content that you're promoting let's assume you don't make any

04:29:02.180 money whatsoever um although it would eventually as if it was trickled down through the estate

04:29:06.740 uh i could just find it objectionable that you are promoting content that could be deemed as

04:29:13.380 pseudo pseudoscientific telepathy uh you can cure cancer or you can cure illnesses you can make them

04:29:21.960 better and there's you can't just cure cancer through positive vibes bro i mean fasting in other ways

04:29:31.100 yeah i don't think he claimed like don't go to the doctor you didn't read the books did you

04:29:36.580 no i don't know the specific claims but i didn't i did look into it and the bible says fasting and

04:29:42.040 uh all of that does heal jesus can heal too absent christ it does the opposite yeah bible i mean yeah

04:29:51.080 my my grandfather believed in christ too but i think delaying like starting chemotherapy for example

04:29:56.500 oh he would never condone that okay well i'll know i'll know the exact positions i'm saying

04:30:01.240 if that was the case yeah that'd be fucked up it was like no read my book

04:30:05.720 about visualization and meditation and that will they should go to jail if they did that will cure

04:30:11.580 your ailments well that would be fucked they they should go to jail so i yeah i don't know but i'm

04:30:18.500 i'm asking you if that was the case no that was not the case okay i mean he does have some pretty

04:30:24.940 you know out there he's wacky claims yeah he's wacky okay um he's also very smart and ahead of his

04:30:32.360 books on your instagram i put a link in there because my dad asked me to there's literally

04:30:36.540 zero up to three clicks per month like i don't know if that's a grift is that a grift if zero

04:30:44.660 mostly zero don't make money i would still object to somebody promoting pseudoscientific

04:30:49.060 content but okay anyways whatever that's whatever like that's my grandfather like that's my grandfather

04:30:55.760 that's my family i think it's only fair if you've basically been interrogating us on our positions

04:31:00.380 that we that's cool we investigate a little bit on oh that's cool now you know i didn't believe in

04:31:07.960 everything my grandfather said but esp telekinesis um anyways whatever can you move the pencil with your

04:31:17.000 mind no well then what what sort of telekinesis is this and couldn't you like control dude who

04:31:25.400 did i even say that i believe in everything you said no and yeah i don't want to keep talking about

04:31:30.980 my grandfather like okay then we'll move it on that's my family you don't want to want people

04:31:35.320 doing that to your family but it was funny earlier when you said somebody brought it up he said it's

04:31:39.540 fine because it's just a fact well this is just a fact this just fit these just facts

04:31:44.220 he's just reading you facts well why are you so defensive when it's just facts it's so weird

04:31:51.080 why are you so defensive when it's just facts right it can't be a grift if i don't make money

04:31:55.140 it's fine so it's just facts we're just stating facts facts yeah well what do you mean remember

04:32:00.880 earlier she was just stating facts i had no reason to ever question it was just facts right all those

04:32:06.820 incel men who are dming you definitely bought like all the books from your grandfather that he

04:32:13.380 they're just stating facts they're gonna learn the telepathy so they can seduce you

04:32:17.820 hey he actually has books on how to do that with the opposite sex mind control books like yeah

04:32:24.500 which i believe is wrong but but but man aren't the books don't read the books so you don't believe

04:32:30.800 in the content no i believe it's possible to do that it's my grandfather people are manipulating

04:32:37.960 people and if your grandfather was hitler my grandfather i guess it's well hold on that

04:32:44.000 might be a little far bit of a stretch literally a book about it's literally about charisma and shit

04:32:49.520 like if your grandfather was okay i'm gonna maintain the integrity of this island i don't think you

04:32:58.560 should manipulate manipulate people sorry dude shut up i'm dyslexic okay not you i'm slapping in his

04:33:04.780 joke that was just funny i'm gonna maintain the integrity did he have children epstein i don't

04:33:11.480 think i don't think he did actually gill lane how do you say her name giseline gill lane giseline

04:33:18.620 giseline actually i actually don't know i don't think he did though jack can correct me if i'm wrong on

04:33:25.540 that she was kind of uh anyways whatever um kind of brother you wrote something very mean about

04:33:33.380 andrew you said that i almost i don't even remember you said oh did i say he's a uh oh i remember what

04:33:39.580 i said what did you say uh i said he's a cuck oh there we go oh boy well and my perspective of that

04:33:48.440 is that you're a smart person and i think that you're sticking to a viewpoint oh you're a very smart

04:33:55.360 person and i think you're sticking to how many well let's start with i think that you're you

04:34:00.520 shouldn't be defending trump as much as you do why does that make him a cuck though yeah that you're

04:34:04.680 like he's a cuck for trump yeah what that cuck is a cuck is a very broad term used these days um

04:34:14.200 maybe his bish no i don't think so for trump um i think if you what the no i don't i don't i think

04:34:24.780 that you're like oh that is i think you're a cuck for james tallarico i definitely am what did you

04:34:30.260 say your body count was again um i i didn't say and i've i've um yeah i don't date i don't think

04:34:39.740 she needs to get laid to be honest i i i don't want i think it's been a while andrew she might be

04:34:45.020 she could be more than mine's getting laid more than 20 no no more than 15 no i gave the range 10

04:34:55.600 to 20 and the last like what like eight years there's been three people or something three people

04:35:03.940 three people yeah so okay well you called him a cuck and then you said oh i was just being for

04:35:11.740 trump you said you have a huge issue with me platforming andrew the way i do it's just the

04:35:17.520 way he speaks to people really andrew almost overwhelmingly matches energy well almost all

04:35:24.600 the time literally andrew will be polite he matched the energy of the other people when i was on the show

04:35:29.320 the way y'all like usually y'all don't get to that energy till later on like remember when the the girl

04:35:34.840 who had the lisp he wasn't he didn't do he didn't mock her list first she was being antagonistic towards

04:35:41.940 me and like the good friend that andrew is he defended me that's true by insulting her hey but she

04:35:47.920 had it coming okay she she was very mean by the way she assaulted didn't she assault you and she did

04:35:53.840 she assaulted physically hang on i've been assaulted i did not defend her actually on this show i've been

04:35:59.160 assaulted multiple times on this show by the way by crazy ass women i don't know what it is about the

04:36:05.260 whatever podcast andrew that it seems like you go everywhere else things are mostly fine well y'all

04:36:10.740 took that energy out on me is there something crazy going on it's because y'all took that chaotic energy

04:36:16.440 and it's because i drive women fucking crazy that's it i drive them crazy and they can't help it they

04:36:21.480 just lose their fucking minds yeah um you took that energy of what she did and brought it directly

04:36:26.360 to me i didn't you know i went back and watched that the episode that i was on with you you were

04:36:31.860 very nice there's actually him who so how come i'm getting the grief um i wrote that before that

04:36:37.020 episode actually this is what they do andrew on the internet over message they have all the smoke

04:36:44.520 then when you did laugh at me when confronted in person they completely backpedal they completely

04:36:50.900 no it's literally the way you speak to people and you talk about morals and christianity like

04:36:55.420 um my issue is the delivery not the message the tone the tone the tone yeah tone policing whatever

04:37:02.040 it's not the tone it's actually the words which words um talking about like dick sucking and

04:37:08.780 all kinds of crazy shit you've said oh i don't do like it's a dating podcast sometimes these topics

04:37:15.620 quote all of it but um yeah basically calling them all evil and shit like that um i don't call

04:37:23.740 them all evil not all of them but they call evil people evil who you know what it is purely evil i

04:37:30.960 don't i agree that well maybe there are some people who are purely evil but the thing is is like um

04:37:38.540 usually the only time that i'll go after a person hard is when they're advocating for an evil ideology

04:37:45.420 meaning they double down on the ideal so we're in an argument and they're promoting evil fucking

04:37:51.900 ideologies and yeah i'll go pretty hard at them um sorry okay i get that but again i can't remember

04:38:02.360 exact moments but sometimes i feel like it the as strong as you go it kind of promotes other men

04:38:10.840 speaking to women that way and you see that you see that through the chat i wish more men i wish

04:38:15.980 more men would speak to women in a more firm way i wish that they would i wish that they'd be like

04:38:20.880 stop being a stupid fucking bitch i actually do i wish that more men would look at women and say

04:38:26.580 stop being a stupid fucking bitch i do i wish that and you know who else wishes that women

04:38:31.920 oh women often tell me you know what i wish more men would tell women to stop being stupid

04:38:37.260 fucking bitches too i do that's what i hear all the time i bet you're one of them don't you wish

04:38:42.880 more men would tell stupid bitches when they're being stupid bitches to stop being a stupid bitch

04:38:49.300 i wouldn't use those words but sure are you are you gonna fill drink what the fuck vindication

04:38:56.660 see my brain vindication put it back down yes i do think now not every woman the wrong cup sorry

04:39:03.540 that i do have not every woman's a stupid bitch most women aren't stupid bitches but there are some

04:39:09.220 women are not yeah who act like stupid bitches and i wish more men would tell them to stop being a

04:39:14.660 stupid bitch yes can men be stupid bitches well we can we call them the f-slur stupid f-slur

04:39:21.620 f or what s what'd you say we're not gonna oh we won't repeat it but uh they they get called way

04:39:29.620 worse than a bitch we call them the f-slur that's what we reserve for when men are being out but the

04:39:35.680 thing is is like for some reason there's like even when women are being the most horrible fucking

04:39:41.460 people on planet earth you have to still treat them with kid gloves i'm like fuck that tell them

04:39:45.960 stop being a stupid bitch it's the tone like yeah exactly no with the charlie thing you said well

04:39:51.400 i'm better than you and stuff like that um okay no i asked her a question i said is the reason that

04:39:58.780 you're attacking me this way when i didn't do that to you because i'm better than you the point that i

04:40:03.120 was making is don't try to posture from a position of moral superiority when it is actually the case

04:40:10.580 that i have superior morals see i mean that sounds like you think you're superior um to me i what i

04:40:19.260 mean my moral positions are superior to charlie's hundred percent not even close you know how i know

04:40:25.520 that because she doesn't have moral positions she's a moral anti-realist so i have to have my moral

04:40:32.640 positions almost definitionally are superior because she's an anti she doesn't believe that there's

04:40:37.960 moral facts like that's not charlie kirk for the viewers we're talking about chart yeah charlie oh

04:40:43.360 yeah that girl that lady yeah uh okay you said that the majority of political violence has been on

04:40:52.080 the right um not with like riots but actually murder like yeah so if you exclude the primary category in

04:41:01.940 which well what do you mean like even if you protesting is is you mean writing yeah um i mean

04:41:11.660 i think murdering people and like hitting kicking cars and stuff are different levels destroying a

04:41:19.520 building versus murdering people i think there's a different level of violence there i just didn't like

04:41:27.380 that you said the left is murderous and like i was mad like murderous murderous whatever um

04:41:33.540 they are murderous yeah a few of them might be no no not a few collectively they are they want to

04:41:39.400 murder babies in mass murder them

04:41:42.280 anything um i mean i don't condone um abortions but then i don't believe if you can't force something

04:41:53.780 into a lady's water you shouldn't be able to force something else so so and if you look at the

04:41:58.380 jewish um at the bible it was just a fine if you accidentally hurt killed a baby during a fight

04:42:07.860 um it's just a fine but if well i'm glad i'm not jewish but anyway no but christian i mean your

04:42:15.580 that's not the question the question is who collectively right now wants to collectivize

04:42:20.840 the ability to murder babies is it the left or the right the majority of all answer my question

04:42:26.620 i mean the left but the majority of all people want some sort of abortion rights like the way it's

04:42:32.800 no they don't texas is um they might have changed things a lot of people were dying and i don't think

04:42:38.520 a child should be forced to have a baby um so they weren't not a lot almost none but in fact almost

04:42:45.320 none the the vast overwhelming majority of abortions are not due to the health of the mother

04:42:53.660 that's insanity and even if we granted even if we granted the exception to the doctors but even if

04:42:59.820 we granted the exception for if it's the case that there was uh incest essay or direct health

04:43:07.120 ramifications to the mom if you're a minor i would add minor fine i'll even add that as an exception

04:43:12.480 right um the vast majority of abortions will not be that and so the thing is is like don't tell me

04:43:20.140 the left isn't murderous when you just got done telling me that hang on stop let me can i finish

04:43:24.420 my point when they collectivize to murder children they and by your own admission how is that not

04:43:30.680 murderous i said political violence like literally killing political opponents i didn't talk about

04:43:36.200 abortion i said murderous because that's murder and they have murderous intent because they're

04:43:43.760 collectivizing to murder babies so that when you after charlie kirk's death you're talking about

04:43:49.900 abortions not as literally trying to murder i'm talking about the mindset of the murderous left

04:43:54.500 they're murderous it's a murderous mindset they don't half of the population is murderous

04:44:00.800 no first of all that's not half the population but if you're talking about inside of the united

04:44:07.400 states if you're on the left and you support that then you have murderous intent yes that's your

04:44:13.380 opinion that's your opinion too no i don't condone abortion i don't i would never have a it depends

04:44:20.500 it's a loss of life it depends on how old the baby is i would stop it like at 20 weeks or less

04:44:28.940 well they don't want to do that either wasn't that what was in um no they want to have it clear

04:44:34.100 up yeah that's they want to then again that's gross i would collectively that's what they want

04:44:38.620 and they want it enshrined you're wrong i literally watch both sides all right the majority

04:44:43.200 of people no but i watch all of the content you're just saying something that from what i'm seeing

04:44:49.660 doesn't really do you agree from my view i agree that i believe that abortions murder yeah okay i

04:44:56.040 i see nothing wrong with that so then it's completely consistent for me to say that left

04:44:59.540 is collectively in the context of it you didn't really say babies you're just talking about us

04:45:05.880 being violent i didn't ask i wasn't on the podcast with you that's right i watched all the reactions

04:45:11.900 when i say that and destiny was being a piece of shit too i don't condone that either i don't give a

04:45:17.200 fuck about that guy i'm talking about pierce morgan what i'm saying to you when you were on pierce

04:45:21.320 morgan that's why i was like okay he's kind of like condone you're stirring up what could be more

04:45:27.520 political violence with this sort of speech is what you mean the guy who said no political violence

04:45:32.380 for his destiny you said there could be you call us all murderous and he no he was fucked up too like

04:45:37.840 no he was just the one who was disgusting i i disavowed political violence across the board you didn't

04:45:42.680 say oh because the babies you just literally called them murderous and and so of course the right

04:45:47.320 they do have murderous intent they do to kill everybody they believe that they're living in

04:45:52.760 nazi germany under orange hitler yes they have murderous intent besides just abortion they have

04:45:59.780 murderous intent after uh somebody gets murdered in our entire um administration themselves or

04:46:08.580 trying to like using messaging instead of calm it down be peaceful to stir up more violence is

04:46:16.320 is that oh yeah they're calming it down remember how they tried to shoot trump in the face

04:46:21.180 wasn't it boy it's real calm when destiny came out and said the guy who died there during that

04:46:26.740 assassination attempt well he had it coming do you know the info hang on stop bro let me can i finish

04:46:31.860 my point previous trump supporter all right whatever i'll tell you what you talk i'm just gonna sit

04:46:36.900 here i'm just saying because there's not it's not even a conversation anymore honestly i'm sorry i didn't

04:46:42.720 mean i didn't mean to i don't even care about it it's not to me it's not even done then it's not

04:46:47.860 even that important i think we're close to the end but yeah uh really quick abortion um are you

04:46:53.460 fine with abortion at any point no that's fucked up i i said 20 weeks or less 20 weeks i missed that

04:47:01.200 part my bad yeah uh okay i guess we could do a different topic i mean there's basically oh you did

04:47:06.660 say that you think andrew himself is paid for oh i didn't say that i i said i was questioning you

04:47:13.840 said yeah you did say makes me wonder makes me wonder i was looking at the christian nationalist

04:47:18.840 movement and all of the are you paid for andrew i don't think you're paid for that was more of like

04:47:24.260 a huh who's who's paying you i don't think you're paid for it's the jews i was talking because when

04:47:31.120 you see like uh they're paying me no i'm no when you see that did you get your 7 000 so here's i'll

04:47:40.380 no i'm saying when you see the christian national i was talking about christian national

04:47:43.880 hang on i'll disclose every amount of income that i get right now books just to make sure that

04:47:48.920 everybody no i don't no no i'll disclose i never said he was paid for do you want the explanation

04:47:54.980 has paid for him good you have to stop talking though or i can't give it to you

04:47:59.000 so the thing is i'll disclose every amount of sources of income that i make i make some money

04:48:05.880 from a contract with rumble uh most of my money comes from my audience and direct super chats

04:48:12.180 some money comes from my wife's books which i take and then spend on guns

04:48:16.620 some of my revenue comes in from debate university

04:48:19.500 oh i was so all of my so all of my revenue as far as i know my point with that all of my revenue as

04:48:28.980 far as i know comes in from me so i bought and paid for myself yeah my point is uh was about i was

04:48:36.320 talking about christian nationalism and the money supply and all the people in the government who like

04:48:41.860 are lying to our faces and um yeah supposedly christian and i was talking about how texas uh

04:48:50.200 turned red and like the oil companies and um all the churches involved in all of that and paid for by

04:48:56.260 i never said he was i was talking about the christian national movement yeah no i would take money from a

04:49:02.340 christian nationalist movement if they aligned with my views no i'm telling you i would take money

04:49:07.920 from a christian nationalist movement that aligned with my views phase like researching how like the

04:49:13.160 movement started and uh like so i was like huh makes me wonder dot dot dot dot it wasn't literally

04:49:18.220 me accusing him of that that's fair i understand i get that but now you know yeah i'm but i would i

04:49:27.260 if there was like a real movement sponsors that aligned with my views i would take all of their

04:49:33.180 fucking money i am the king of the grift it's true yeah i mean i just said makes you wonder it

04:49:41.700 wasn't about literally i think you're paid for yeah i don't like taking money from you know you know

04:49:48.020 why like i would stay away from you what's that they try to control what i say they try to they try to

04:49:56.840 control what you say they try to control what you do so i've i've always been very adamant about

04:50:02.760 funding through the fan base because that way we can do and say whatever the fuck we want and i've

04:50:08.420 not ever taken a major contract with another organization even though many have been offered

04:50:13.040 grassroots hell yeah that's what i came here to talk about all right um so me and my fans can argue

04:50:20.380 with each other we can yell at each other like we will over the epstein stuff guarantee it we'll be

04:50:24.280 arguing like crazy people be sitting in super chats we'll be screaming at each other but at the

04:50:27.880 end of the day we're all trying to move in the right direction yeah i've been enjoying the maga

04:50:33.360 civil war it's been it's been fun to watch out fight with each other i'm sure it has fucking

04:50:38.700 disinformation leftist scum what do you mean i watch more right wing than i do i know but you've

04:50:44.000 been enjoying that maga civil war haven't you i mean don't people watch you sound more like an agent

04:50:49.080 of chaos i thought brian was the division guy here and yet here you are you love watching the

04:50:54.240 chaos i'm literally here telling people to stop divisive you're telling them to stop while you're

04:50:59.280 enjoying that maga civil war i'm enjoying watching them come to the conclusion that hey we're all

04:51:04.720 fucking idiots that's not what's going on stop the hate most of it's leftist in fact a lot of this

04:51:10.800 stuff online a lot of these supposed maga accounts and shit it's like rick two three eight four nine

04:51:16.900 seven two eight fucking four one and rick two two eight nine seven four one two eight four eight

04:51:22.700 who go on and they're like i voted for trump now i regret the vote and it's like whatever dude who

04:51:28.180 made your account three weeks ago i'm literally talking about people um like major podcasts um

04:51:35.560 fighting each other word i'm not talking about probably fake just talking about a few there's

04:51:41.020 a few influencers who are going back and then people are like trying to cancel other people and

04:51:46.300 it seems kind of woke of them and it's been uh who's trying to cancel people ben shapiro

04:51:52.820 um well no the the old and then other people getting mad at putting the daily wire has been hated

04:51:59.640 for years and then nick people trying to yeah nick fluentes it's it's not there's no l it's not

04:52:06.140 fluentes whatever fluent fuentes fuentes fuentes nick fuentes fuentes yeah fuentes fuentes uh we're

04:52:17.240 pretty much at the tail end here let me just read the prompts and if you guys want to bite on them i

04:52:22.980 think we kind of i gotta go to i'm freaking tired tomorrow yeah let's get to the super chats okay

04:52:28.740 all right well we'll you guys want to we'll do some super chats then and unless you yeah i'm tired

04:52:34.800 all right here's what we're gonna do guys we'll do i guess we'll we'll call it the roast

04:52:38.360 session i'm gonna lower the tts to 69 uh if you guys want to get any messages here at the tail end

04:52:46.300 but yeah guys that was an interesting little debate um thanks for doing it by the way thank you and i

04:52:52.900 understand that you're disadvantaged when you're uh you're my speech my brain no not because

04:52:58.480 what or because i've never debated no okay no okay when i was when i was early on in debates i

04:53:05.100 would go up against four or five people that's not the disadvantage but it's um because in an

04:53:11.840 environment like this where it's like it's two people against you and a lot of your worldviews

04:53:18.420 i tried to be very charitable and kind of back off on a lot of this stuff right have our engagements

04:53:24.980 and then move it over right but generally speaking on this show and on most shows i prefer 1v1 so does

04:53:32.400 brian by the way yeah the reason this happened today is because specifically it was stated that you

04:53:37.300 wanted no i didn't you in the past but i made it clear i want to debate andrew well and i asked what

04:53:47.300 was going to be discussed and blah blah blah literally why did you think that would be a good idea

04:53:51.980 what debating you yeah is it just for clout no have you seen my social media i don't even post

04:53:58.180 shit then what's the point because i literally have a message to i don't give a fuck who you vote

04:54:03.320 for just uh so you just want to hijack the platform for your message what do you mean i'm trying to

04:54:09.400 bring people together and make them realize to look you're trying to bring people together while you

04:54:13.780 enjoy the civil war culture wars are not destroying democracy literally the we need to take care of the

04:54:19.800 corruption before we get to the culture wars it's all i'm saying yeah but it's just like my message

04:54:24.360 just so you know though you know what it sounds like on the other end it just sounds like leftist

04:54:28.780 talking points just over and over and over again it's talking about all the corruption and shit too

04:54:34.700 what are you talking about yeah we see corruption in a very different way than you do we see you as

04:54:39.780 the corruption we see the left is the corruption they're uncovering all the government corruption

04:54:45.120 literally no one's talking about the left they're talking about like the cia and all of these laws

04:54:50.200 uh that have corrupted the government it's crazy it's like most of the right wing that are talking

04:54:57.240 about this it's yeah the left isn't even really brought up a lot anymore you'll see i'll see what

04:55:04.440 midterms are coming oh shit yeah we will see and you'll see what happens when um a lot of the curtain

04:55:11.400 comes down and people realize that a lot of this was disinformation which was perpetuated by left

04:55:17.940 wing ngos i guarantee you it's going to be the steel dossier and where there's smoke there's fire

04:55:23.560 2.0 so all the right wing people talking about it they're part of that i don't even think it's like

04:55:30.200 i don't even agree with you about all these right wing people all you mentioned was candace owens

04:55:34.820 and here's morgan uh here's morgan's not right wing no he's independent but tim poole's a trump

04:55:42.140 supporter piers is talking about all that shit let's see tim poole's a trump supporter he's not

04:55:46.660 anymore yes he is um there's uh yes he is tim poole is still a trump supporter i was talking about

04:55:52.960 tim uh what's the other to do with the glasses uh not temple um uh the guy with the glasses the

04:56:00.920 comedian uh gay uh right wing sunglasses really funny milo tim gay right what's his last name

04:56:11.680 well i guess yeah i don't remember um must be a really influential right winger i mean i watch

04:56:17.020 him i don't remember everyone tim dylan yeah he wears glasses oh oh i guess sunglasses and stuff

04:56:24.100 um the gay comedian yeah yeah okay tim dylan um who else do i watch tim dylan um yeah i like

04:56:31.380 more peers because they bring a lot of people to debate but they're talking about the corruption too

04:56:35.300 everywhere i go they're they're not they're not denying that there's fucked up ship have

04:56:40.260 fucked up shit happening um but that's not that that hasn't been in question in two decades

04:56:46.940 they've all like said the question is not whether or not they're renouncing their support who

04:56:52.060 um tim dylan and candace owens who um tim pool's not denouncing his support most right wingers who

04:57:02.180 are in mainstream tim did not tim pool the other tim um most right wingers in positions of authority

04:57:09.300 or influence are not backing away on supporting trump i don't know where you got that idea but that is

04:57:15.640 just factually not the case it's just not the case so i don't know about that okay all right i mean

04:57:26.260 considering the polls and where the podcast directions have gone like i mean it doesn't seem like

04:57:31.640 pretty much any of them because trump has a low approval rating he's had one before

04:57:37.940 and the thing is it's funny is like obama had a very low approval rating in sections of his presidency as

04:57:44.660 well when you have manufactured scandal that's what happens sorry it hurt i don't i think that the

04:57:52.860 epstein who thing really made the difference between this term and last term and the evidence

04:57:57.340 not i think that but i mean it is there's proof that he he's lying about his relationship with

04:58:03.140 epstein that just to and people in the documents itself i think that's enough evidence for a lot of

04:58:08.960 people that's just plain bullshit it's not because first of all trump was the one who put the finger

04:58:15.240 on epstein he was the one who was he banned him from mar-a-lago ever heard of people that's not true

04:58:21.120 that yes it is he never belonged to mart mar-a-lago and he hung out with with epstein and him and

04:58:26.680 publicly shit on the guy and on top of that all this all the all the releasing of these documents

04:58:33.200 happening under his administration after being forced by a law wait didn't he was putting it

04:58:39.900 out before there was a law fake shit that was already out oh no there was more that came out

04:58:45.320 and by the way it was him trump who put his finger who put his feet he was pointing out that glane

04:58:50.860 maxwell and epstein were scum oh oh shit are you recording me no no i just heard my voice the

04:58:59.220 stream yeah started on my phone all right i'll let some chats come through unless did you guys want

04:59:07.260 to continue by the way why the fuck would it matter if i was recording you

04:59:13.200 oh i just was confused it's just weird like why would it matter you're like being recorded by

04:59:20.460 and there's security multiple there's security cameras there's the stream but anyway yeah he's

04:59:25.660 he's audio recording from his phone in his pocket i don't know dude i'm freaking i wouldn't want

04:59:30.980 there to not be a record i don't give a fuck i'm tired you're surreptitiously recording i didn't

04:59:36.860 did i even say any of that like why would i think he's doing that when it's live it's just a joke

04:59:41.720 calm down calm down i'm just tired and yeah i'm tired and i want to go home i know you're tired

04:59:47.060 to be honest i feel like you're a little wound up not i'm just saying i don't know she's calling us

04:59:52.540 incels and stuff i didn't call you an incel did i maybe she's the incel are you an incel has it been

04:59:58.300 a while i reject a lot of people do one of my viewer my garbage spewing viewers no i love men and i'm

05:00:05.680 i'm considering dating i just i've just moved to a new place and i'm chronically ill how you been

05:00:12.140 great you struggling on the dating no i just haven't because i'm trying to focus on making

05:00:17.800 friends in a new city you're in texas yeah i moved cities and i'm starting over and i don't think it's

05:00:23.060 cool to date if you have no friends because then you like you need to have your own life as well so i

05:00:28.300 didn't want to date until i start settling in i don't know if this is toxic but i i think that's

05:00:33.620 it's kind of preferable if a woman doesn't have friends for me i think that's preferable yeah it's

05:00:40.140 better you know yeah i mean especially if her friends are single i mean yeah it's like oh no

05:00:45.480 she's we're gonna lose her uh we gotta talk shit about brian so she doesn't you know disappear

05:00:51.200 yeah basically i just wanted to establish myself let the chats come through we gotta wrap up here

05:00:57.500 yeah we gotta get in and out all right all right donated 69 dollars education and preparation are

05:01:05.720 everything you only harm your position with ignorance brian sees truth andrew sees bullshit

05:01:12.900 critical thinking should be mandatory i have critical thinking i've just never debated and um

05:01:20.160 i'm it's a lot of pressure um to try to remember stuff when you're like anxious and haven't slept

05:01:26.980 and why did you never done this because i told you i have a bigger message i knew i was gonna not win

05:01:32.900 the debate literally co-op to the platform yeah to give your message no i'm trying to bring people

05:01:38.820 together like hey i don't give a fuck if you're left or right just just let's let's vote out

05:01:43.920 together right now yeah i just want people to to wake up to all the like corporate puppets in our

05:01:51.640 government and work together corporate living our politicians are the corporate puppets 69

05:01:57.500 dollars thank you for division what are y'all's view on the save act disenfranchising certain groups

05:02:03.400 of people immoral for it btw um i'm cool with the saves act if they don't like um put it out really

05:02:13.580 right before um election because i think that could be like trying to get people not to vote if they gave

05:02:19.680 people time to get the necessary documents um i don't see anything wrong with that um oh yeah it's

05:02:26.560 real tough to get an id i mean you have we have an id you need to have further documents like

05:02:32.120 uh proving that you're a citizen like birth certificate and it has to match up with the um

05:02:36.580 the name on your id which like for married you don't know the save act doesn't say you have to

05:02:41.960 have a birth certificate and take it with you to the poll no then what does it say no first of all

05:02:47.560 you have to present your birth certificate to get a state id so then what's the save act like you just

05:02:52.440 have to bring your id yes you actually have to have an id to vote yes in texas you already do i

05:02:57.660 mean i can can we look up the save act yeah i'm pretty sure i had more details than that while she's

05:03:02.840 looking it up guys tomorrow andrew will be doing another debate we're aiming to go live at about

05:03:07.840 3 30 p.m pacific that's going to be fantastic 1v1 debate so my mug will not be here uh it'll be over

05:03:17.300 there it'll be over there off camera moderating for most of it uh so be sure to tune in that's

05:03:22.620 3 30 p.m tomorrow and uh guys just uh can you pull up twitch nathan nathan uh pull up the twitch

05:03:30.320 window guys if you're watching on twitch here at the tail end if you enjoyed the stream just drop us

05:03:34.900 a follow check if you have an amazon prime sub available uh let me just shout you guys out

05:03:40.820 molly thank you for the prime guys just check if you have a prime sub available see if you can drop

05:03:44.480 one uh anthetic thank you chief thank you thank you everybody else we won't there's some that came

05:03:50.200 in earlier that we can't read off but thank you guys for the support over there on twitch drop us a

05:03:54.840 follow on the prime sub we have this coming through it's 91 donated 100 thank you andrew do you compete

05:04:01.240 in it or you sir or do you just shoot at garbage that's me what do you mean just shoot at garbage

05:04:08.380 uh yes i have been to a couple of idpa uh tournaments pistol tournaments so um yeah that but as far as

05:04:20.840 like professionally competing no i would like to though i'd like especially usp uh uspa the leagues i

05:04:28.860 would like to do that but uh i'd have to get in with one where i'm at

05:04:32.700 your xd donated 69 dollars thank you the non-falsifiable arguments that build from conclusion

05:04:41.220 and seek to tailor evidence to the conclusion are so baffling but you'll notice they only ever do it

05:04:47.100 in one direction weird how that works isn't it though well for instance i can give you unfalsifiable

05:04:53.700 i could make the same claim i could say here's an unfalsifiable claim uh right this second there's a

05:05:00.520 nefarious group of people who are behind the scenes who are funding a disinformation campaign

05:05:06.700 designed specifically to hurt president trump no i can't prove it but i can give you a bunch of

05:05:13.020 circumstantial evidence for it including bots and various things like this on x right but nobody's

05:05:19.640 nobody wants to do that they instead want to work from the idea of guilt first and then try to

05:05:25.620 circumvent facts and put facts in a position which backs up their hypothesis rather than work their

05:05:33.600 way through the facts themselves well i mean i see that in some instances on both sides but i think

05:05:39.320 um those sides the evidence on the obscene thing i mean it's kind of pointing to that he's covering up for

05:05:48.260 pedos um that you mean that there is no evidence on both sides there is no evidence that he's covering

05:05:54.740 up for pedos that's just completely made up oh my god you can oh my god me but you didn't provide

05:06:01.640 any yeah i did the epstein files him saying there's no coke and what in the epstein files

05:06:07.020 the co-conspirator conspirator sorry what in the epstein files even demonstrates that there was any pdf

05:06:16.280 anything what the list of people that they're hiding and the email talking about nine-year-olds

05:06:24.600 about like that's not evidence of that though it's not and this is what he's talking about

05:06:32.180 yeah okay whatever he's saying that you retroactively fit the facts release the freaking files it's so

05:06:38.160 stupid that i agree with i wish that they would release them all and redacted then come on redacted

05:06:43.060 victims name release them so we can all move on with our lives and he can prove himself and then

05:06:47.320 they'll all get all get released and guess what'll happen investigations on they'll be like we still

05:06:51.820 think that there needs to be medicinal uh investigations till after the midterms when

05:06:56.020 we're in charge and then drop all of it there should be investigations on every person who's mentioned

05:07:01.300 that hasn't been the epstein files are all it doesn't even matter i'm not going to relitigate it

05:07:09.880 all right yeah i mean we're going to talk yeah i mean it's just absence of evidence

05:07:13.960 most people agree with me it's 69 dollars thank you she was a good sport that stupid bunnies smiled

05:07:20.680 oh it the tts changed the b word from one b word to bunny do you want to oh i wasn't sorry my hand

05:07:31.700 i'm not hurting really bad sorry i'm just getting tired something about bunnies

05:07:36.180 he said you were a good sport and then yeah i'd say you're pretty good sport for the most part

05:07:41.880 but one thing that frustrates me andrew i don't know if you've encountered this remember the we're

05:07:46.880 going to schedule you with this this guy who sent us a video you should play that video that pissed me

05:07:53.480 off a lot of the times people will send us messages and they'll come on really strong in the

05:08:01.180 messages oh you're a piece of shit i disagree with you here's well that guy didn't do that to

05:08:06.620 be no that that guy didn't do that but it is frustrating when somebody is like what you're

05:08:11.380 saying is wrong i disagree with you xyz here are my points and then you get them in person and they're

05:08:17.340 like milk toast and it part of me is like maybe that could actually maybe they had a change of mind

05:08:23.000 or whatever the other thing is is i think it's just hijacking no they're just uh their platform

05:08:28.500 what no what what goes on is um you're here to um talk about your points you generalize what you're

05:08:36.780 saying and then you go on the show to elaborate on that i don't see what the difference is on that

05:08:41.120 but you were you came up you so strong in the messages you're a cancer on society you're a grifter

05:08:48.040 you're creating a divide this whole divide is a cancer on society it's not just you but i feel

05:08:55.080 like you didn't back it up you you kind of you kind of backpedaled a little bit what he you back

05:09:01.780 pedaled a little bit on some of these points society like none of this is the whatever podcast

05:09:07.200 and andrew wilson are fantastic for society we're the best for society the best and even if we are

05:09:14.660 divisive we're the best at division the best we're the most divisive the best of bigly divisive okay

05:09:21.040 i don't know i'm just talking shit but andrew just went out for a smoke break he'll be right back and

05:09:25.360 then we'll wrap up the show like yeah i mean i think there's bigger things that are going on that

05:09:31.580 without each other having a truce like there's going to be no changes coming like an alien just a

05:09:37.820 temporary truce temporary alien invasion that's the only time they can come save me i would love

05:09:45.200 that that's the only time we'll all work together i think we should literally we don't i'm not telling

05:09:51.680 anyone to change parties but just agree aliens do invade we're probably fucked or maybe maybe to be

05:09:58.900 able to do interstellar uh trap uh traveling that way too advanced we're fucked well maybe they'll see

05:10:05.940 how dumb we are and be like hey um they'd stop the wars they'd stop the wars because alien ship and

05:10:13.120 blow it up if you don't stop being dumb i'll just nuke the whole planet and then there are our

05:10:18.200 movies were definitely better back then though in the 90s yeah i would hope that they're friendly and

05:10:23.080 see that we're about to kill each other and then intervene and be like hey stop the bullshit or i'm

05:10:28.780 just gonna blow up the whole like hook up with aliens though to be probably yeah it would happen

05:10:34.640 even in that movie independence day yeah they were all yes welcome aliens and for sure they get

05:10:41.480 fucking i mean people are gonna be banging robots pretty soon too so let's add aliens to that that

05:10:48.880 would be a good solution for you though because i mean i'm not saying i want you know i want a baby

05:10:54.660 okay so i'm probably gonna have to bang somebody you want a baby yeah i have my ex frozen and i'm

05:10:59.800 getting more frozen well you're 38 right yeah but okay everyone don't rush getting married get

05:11:04.780 eggs frozen okay your eggs are frozen yeah i'm getting i'm in july i'm getting more frozen so

05:11:10.040 i feel like you're a lot and it's gonna take a very special man dude i'm on a debate i'm very chill

05:11:19.340 do you think i talk about politics i literally sit around and i write music i'm i'm chill i literally

05:11:25.640 have never been an argumentative relationship in my life with with a dude it's never been like that

05:11:30.920 i've never i'm on a debate you know i think you hen peck you probably mean and hen peck your partners

05:11:39.400 no dude you peck it i've had chill i've only been in like chill shit if something wasn't chill i got

05:11:46.040 out of it have you had an abortion no it's actually why i my last relationship ended is because i told him

05:11:52.600 he got an abortion no um i was having like health issues that was like when i got chronically ill

05:11:57.760 or whatever and at that time i was having really strong pains uh and i had to stop uh my birth

05:12:04.820 control so i told him like hey if you don't want me to get knocked up like use a condom because i

05:12:09.360 can't take this medication oh and then he was i told him i don't want abortion we've been together

05:12:14.100 four years so like if you want to take your chances by not wrapping it up then like i don't care

05:12:19.000 you're saying because it's my health is like at risk right now until i go to the doctor this is

05:12:24.000 your choice is condoms or like take your chances and then oh my god who the hell you asked and then

05:12:30.920 when i wouldn't take a plan b he um he never talked to me again how long were you dating him

05:12:37.360 four years you see what i mean i'm like dude like what the fuck he was like i need money off again

05:12:44.620 in the end i broke up with him a lot because he wouldn't even move in with me and yeah he was

05:12:50.420 just using you for exactly i mean four years like that's stained i know right yeah um he's like it's

05:12:59.580 not the right time it's not the right time we need i need money for private schools and all of the

05:13:04.000 stuff i'm like dude all right let's just get married my wife just uses me for sex too that sounds

05:13:09.000 awesome sucks she thinks i'm a fucking object you does your wife objectify you andrew all the time

05:13:16.720 i'm serious rachel we're gonna have a talk acts like i'm a fucking that's just it's just i need

05:13:24.360 that you know it's you know what bothers me and you know what grinds my gears andrew

05:13:28.580 is sometimes as a guy you just want to cuddle you just yeah you just want to cuddle that's what i miss

05:13:35.060 that's what i miss the most actually just like pieces of meat ridiculous we're just like pieces

05:13:39.840 of meat we're just and it's like sometimes you just want to talk and i feel i feel objectified i

05:13:44.760 feel used and it's really upsetting it upsets me a lot you women all you think about all you guys

05:13:50.800 think about is one thing and it's disgusting it's fucking disgusting disgusting all you think about

05:13:56.560 is one thing uh i guess this is probably gonna be our final chat here uh well this was fun like

05:14:01.720 watching someone try to teach a turtle a magic trick i feel your frustration andrew not one step

05:14:07.280 back not one step back thank you ryan for the super chat you're a legend sir all right well uh here we're

05:14:12.820 gonna wrap this up guys if you enjoyed the stream like the video also debate university guys debate

05:14:17.660 university.com you want to learn how to become a master debater like andrew wilson uh you gotta check

05:14:23.440 out his course debate university.com uh be sure to check it out uh video tutorials video

05:14:31.160 instructions etc etc uh reminder we have a debate tomorrow with andrew the great andrew wilson 3 30

05:14:37.720 p.m live here on the whatever podcast but not so erudite years in the making they they squared up

05:14:46.020 on a dating talk panel that was back in i think it was 2024 or maybe it was even 2023 uh so this that's

05:14:54.420 going to be a big one that's going to be a big one so be sure to tune in 3 30 p.m it's going to be a

05:14:59.300 big l for erudite uh so tune into that tune into that and then uh we have andrew also here for the

05:15:06.720 dating talk this sunday that's 5 p.m that should be fun i haven't done one of those in a long time

05:15:11.740 those are more chill you know i think they'll be a chill one uh and um that'll be a good one

05:15:18.440 that'll be a good one uh no she will not i tried to on this past sunday we had this

05:15:24.760 of virgin christian it's fucking bull they're liar they're liars but um but she would have been

05:15:32.880 really good i was i i said on the show i was like i wish i had andrew on this episode i was like and

05:15:40.220 then i was like why didn't i just call can i just call you andrew just call you be like i don't go live

05:15:45.000 sunday because you're on i've done that i should have called you i've done that for i don't know

05:15:50.700 how long there has been a couple times where i've had to go live because i had something scheduled

05:15:54.260 but then i raid over but i i don't go live on sunday specifically because i don't want to split

05:16:01.820 you know to like split off any of brian's audience so yeah i know that there's some overlap there

05:16:07.680 well it's much appreciated and uh but yeah that would have been uh that would have been good but uh to

05:16:14.120 get that girl on because she was wild uh anyways by the way actually those of you who watched that

05:16:18.920 episode uh apparently i've received some communications that she's claiming she's certain

05:16:25.640 way but heard from some ex-boyfriends uh so it was all a grift it was all a lie she's a liar

05:16:32.940 anyways um let me just double check here make sure we're all good uh debate 3 30 tomorrow

05:16:41.380 saturday uh that's a break day sunday dating talk podcast andrew wilson here for a couple days so

05:16:50.020 uh thank you guys for tuning in i hope you enjoyed the debate thank you guys who sent in some messages

05:16:54.880 debateuniversity.com check it out like the video can i try it can i try the crucible sign off with

05:17:00.120 whatever hang on from all of us here at whatever podcast to all of you out there and whatever podcast

05:17:06.120 have a wonderful night thank you oh seven's in the chat guys good night

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Whatever Podcast - February 26, 2026

Andrew Wilson & Brian Atlas vs. 140 IQ Woke Leftist Feminist HATER! ｜ Whatever Debates 24

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