Andrew Wilson vs. Anti-Whatever E-GIRLS?! Super Mega Feminist HEATED Debate?! | Dating Talk #174
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Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, we have our first guest, Maddie, a streamer, streamer and streamer extraordinaire! We talk about her journey with Bitcoin, her experience in the Bitcoin space, and how she got into the game.
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issue of our time and lizzie here has joined the board of directors she's a big fan of my movement
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huge fan anyways if you can't catch the full shows guys we got clips channels link for all those are in
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okay we got a private patreon members only discord discord.gg slash whatever link for that's in the
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description we're posting bts and stuff on there i'm backlogged so i have like at least 20 things i'm
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going to upload but we got two up so far nick got beat up a couple weeks ago so that's up by girl
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so that's on there um oh last thing some haters review bombed us on spotify that's that's apple
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music there if you know it's fine nick so that's that's our uh apple podcast reviews and they just
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review bombed us they got it was uh what do they call that we got brigaded so the link is in the
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description if you guys want to give us a five-star review and you can also type up something nice
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and then also hold on what's the other thing wait maddie you're pressing on the yeah you're gonna
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like get burned um oh we have spotify too if you can tab over to that one we also got review bombed
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on spotify three stars that's ridiculous review bombed if you guys can give us five stars on spotify
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too links are at the very bottom of the description and mods if you can spam it in the chat all right
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without further ado or actually hold on disclaimer first the views expressed by the guests do not
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necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel with that said without further ado we're
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going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and
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occupation go ahead i'm brooklyn 25 um from the ie brooklyn 25 from the ie inland empire yes and i work in
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a cannabis production okay 25 and uh cannabis product and you guys got you got a podcast too
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though yes yeah we're gonna react to some of your clips they're very entertaining uh 25 you're uh born
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and raised inland empire or okay uh get too specific i'm too wild now okay what about you my name is
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kelsey i'm 29 i'm from the bay area and i do structural design structural design and uh born and
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raised in the bay yeah okay what about you my name is lena i'm 25 and i'm also from the inland empire
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what do you do for work cannabis production okay cannabis okay and then you also do your podcast here
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uh you guys are not related right we are are you like cousins or twins fraternal wait really yeah oh
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is it is that true though is it actually related or yeah yeah
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that the fraternal that's when you you don't look alike yeah yeah fraternal but you were born at the
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same time right yeah came out the womb she rocket launched she's she's the older sibling well um i
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hope you don't mind the little pushback here so early on you said you're 25 years old well there's a
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post on your instagram that would indicate i think you're 31 31 well if i have this correctly not to call
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you out here but we do prefer uh i believe there was a post on your instagram that indicated that i
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was 31 not that you were 31 but back in 2022 i believe there was a post that said it was your 29th
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birthday so i'm a little confused there oh no definitely not am i wrong page
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well you sure i yeah so you so did you make a mistake on your instagram or i think i put 20 fine
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i don't think i put 29 you didn't put 20 so am i'm i'm wrong here then is what you're saying i put 20
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fine 20 20 fine like oh did i get this wrong hold on one sec here i'm gonna have to you know what
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i'm gonna continue on with introductions but i we we gotta get to the bottom of this because i could
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have made a mistake and i would feel terrible if i was calling you out erroneously go ahead
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my name is destiny suzanne uh i'm from dallas texas and i'm an artist um i do music hip-hop and r&b
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and i also do only fans on the side age um 22 i'm gonna be 23 this year okay 22
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and you you said you're an artist so like you're a singer yeah i sing uh i do club music
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and i also dance you do club music and you know like are you a rapper
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poquito wait are those prescription lenses or okay what's your correction no they're not i'm just
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okay okay wait can we so you rap yeah can can we hear a freestyle i don't know can somebody drop a
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beat what you got for us brooklyn i know you're you got you got some what you got brooklyn drop us a
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beat i think you might be better at a beat i don't know where to boom maybe not on the table
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acapella yeah might need a table assistance
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oh so you really want me to yeah go yeah go for it
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it's giving up sex because i'm pretty yeah i know he fucking with me ay
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say he want a slim thick bad bitch ice fish yeah he need him a little desi
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i'm never for real i'm just flirting but still got him dropping a bed for that berkey
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he calling me bae when i'm riding that shit oh and a dick i be talking
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do you have a music video out that we could yeah there is actually
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yeah there's a music video for that one there's a music video out for that one okay uh can we find
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it on your you've got like a youtube channel or something um this is on like my record labels it's
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c4s tv it's called and them shorts that's a feature song though so it's gonna have like other rappers on
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okay i see um brooklyn i actually you said 25 you did say 25 i was wrong i was wrong i i don't know
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how to read i'm actually illiterate i thought it said not 29 she wrote 25 i'm in the one of the rare
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few times i'm ever wrong on something so okay all right there you go all right uh
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holy shit did you guys see that that fucking mouse came out of nowhere okay go ahead
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hello uh i'm lizzie i'm 35 i'm from the um the bay as well uh santa clara to be specific and i am a
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receptionist sorry uh you said 25 no 35 oh 35 okay all right and i'm just getting all the ages all
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fucked up today and um yeah i actually i want to blame our totally anonymous nameless researcher
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that we definitely have for for the mix-up it definitely wasn't my fault but i apologize i
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apologize for the mix-up okay go ahead what about you i'm lily i'm 22 i live in santa barbara right now
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and my full-time occupation is i'm a full-time student at ucsb right now all right what are you studying
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i'm studying environmental studies and dance i'm a double major double major okay are you
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specializing in any kind of dance or like ballet or no i kind of did like all styles like jazz or
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yeah tap but you did ballet yes i did everything can we see a pirouette like you want me to do it
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right now i think maybe plie is a bit more like right now yeah why not okay i can do it oh she's
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gonna do it okay oh do you yeah go for it okay pirouette's a bit much for the space yeah i think
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a plie is a bit more appropriate all right we're gonna rate rate her plie out of 10
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rate it out of 10 that's it yeah 10 out of 10 i thought you go typically isn't there a bit more
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i don't know that's not for plie this is relevant oh okay all right i'm obviously a ballet
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expert all right thank you for that appreciate it that was good so okay environmental studies and
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dance all right and you're going into your senior year um i actually already graduated oh you're done
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yeah i'm just doing summer school right now okay are you gonna go to grad school or um tbd
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i don't have any congratulations thank you what about you i'm sadie i'm 21 and i'm an snp for a
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school district special needs prayer educator okay i'm doing right now yeah do you do uh like any
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consulting on that like sometimes nick needs a little help uh yeah i can work on him for sure
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i do one-on-one sometimes no okay just check nick i can do that yeah get her contact in
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all right what about you hi i'm alicia um i am 36 years old i'm live in la uh i'm a stay-at-home mom
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all right cool uh really quick just going around the table uh who have you graduated from university
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yeah i graduated from cal state fullerton gotcha what did you get your degree in sociology
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okay you uc davis and i went for civil engineering sorry what repeat uc davis and i went to civil or
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civil engineering civil engineering okay i didn't uh go to university i did some community college
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you went to the school of hard knocks yeah we went to our university bimbosity university
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the boss the bimbosity university bimbosity yeah there you go okay all right
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okay yeah i did some community college but i don't have a degree gotcha did you anything for you
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uh yeah i have a bachelor's in political science okay very cool very cool nick do we have andrew yet
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all right try to give him a call guys we do have andrew wilson mike haucasian joining us
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in just a moment uh why don't we just get started in you got him okay uh hang tight there guys for
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just a second we have the great he is a gentleman he is a scholar he's a brave and a decent man he's a
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pioneer andrew wilson andrew can you hear us i can hear you how is everybody this evening
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good amazing doing good doing good andrew would you be able to i don't know if you're the lighting's
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just weird on our end are you able to boost your camera light or is it gonna burn your eyeballs
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um well i just turned the backlighting off that's why it's a little dimmer you said you didn't like the
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backlighting yeah not the backlighting but the lighting on you or yeah i can't do much about that
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tonight oh okay all good all good so andrew want you to introduce yourself yeah my name is andrew
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wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's uh to my knowledge the fastest growing debate channel
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anywhere online i'm a political analyst a political satirist and uh i like to engage in debates from
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time to time well there you go in fact i caught some of your debate yesterday with uh based oracle
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and i just want you to know andrew next time i see you i demand a tuna sandwich with mayonnaise
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and a bar of chalky chocolate a bar of chocolate i need a bar did he specify was a dark chocolate or
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he did not specify what type of chocolate he required but uh just that he required some some
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but he definitely wasn't trolling okay well next time i see you i'm i'm i'm expecting you know okay
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anyways uh yeah yeah i'll bring i'll i'll make sure i'll make sure you know i'll be down there in what
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a week or something like this i'll make sure that uh yes i bring the i bring the chocolate yes guys we
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do have andrew wilson back in studio for what the fifth time i think fifth or six yeah i think it's
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i think it's the fifth time nice so we're gonna go around the table once more what is everybody's
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current relationship status so are you single relationship talking stage situationship friends
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with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem whatever it may be if you're single how
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long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead
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i'm single i have been single for three years and my longest relationship was eight years
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all right so your longest relationship eight years were you guys married or no no no kids no from what
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age to what age was the relate i'm assuming it's the one that ended three years ago yeah okay so you're
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from 23 to like 15 to 23 basically or okay yes so you guys met in high school yes high school
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sweethearts who broke up with who i broke up with him why is that i think just getting together super
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young doesn't give you the greatest chance of staying together all right so any other relationships
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besides that one not that i count because i mean i had one boyfriend before that but i was like 12
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yeah i wouldn't count that any rebounds after the uh eight-year relationship i talked to one guy
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and then i since i've been single i just been abstaining from sex so you've been celibate for
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three years or mostly uh two over two years celibate for for two years okay got it um
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but have you been dating at all no no okay uh so single for three years celibate for two
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longest relationship eight years okay what about you i'm in a relationship and have been for four
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and a half years all right longest relationship yes my longest this is your longest okay how did you
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guys meet um we went to high school together and then we reconnected through tinder reconnected through
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tinder okay did it start out casual and then became more serious or no it was serious right away
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okay he was one of the only people sure of tinder what about you i'm single my longest relationship was
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five years and what was the other question how long have you been uh single for i've been single for
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like three years or no five five five years yeah five years so your your relationship was
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from was that that was my high school sweetheart my only relationship so you dated from 15 to 20
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yeah okay because and you said you've been single 14 to 14 to yeah 19 20 okay you've been single for
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five years yes also celibate as like your friend here not as long as my sister but i was longest celibate
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for 10 months i recently broke it but we don't talk anymore wait you recently broke your celibacy
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well like a a few months ago okay but you were celibate for 10 months 10 months was my longest
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okay i see and then you broke it a couple months ago how long were you dating that guy
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uh just a few months a few months okay who broke up with who there i left him you left him yeah why is
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that he ended up having a girlfriend the whole time darn hate when that happens uh okay what about
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you um i'm single uh for like a week now oh shit okay but um one week my longest relationship was like
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seven years seven years damn lots of long long ass relationships tonight okay uh single as of a week
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ago yeah how long are you dating that that guy um we was kind of like on and off but this past time
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it was like a year a little over a year so to get like total a year but it was on and off for that
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year yeah okay how many times was it off and on a few it was more than 10 uh
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yeah maybe around there some people be breaking up every day you know it's like a hundred times
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they're off if you count those then yeah okay so then more often than not who was initiating the off
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um like who would end it even if it lasted like three days i'm not gonna lie like it would kind of
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be like both of us but okay split yeah now it's just kind of like um yeah i feel like it was a
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mutual thing okay each time like you know what i'm saying and who would be the one like trying to get
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back that's also the same like it's i think it was kind of like both of us you know what i'm saying
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it's like whoever ended this somebody would be trying to like you know reach out or whatever
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who most like so you said is it it ended a week ago so i mean pretty good chance you guys are going
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to get back together again no or this is the last i swear have you said that before though yes yeah you
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said it before but i swear all right and so what was the most uh what was the most uh recent reason for
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the for being off um i really spazzed low-key but um like he's one of those dudes that be going like
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on tiktok live and he'll like kiki with different girls you know what i'm saying he'll what a kiki
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kiki try to try to keep it you know do you know what do you know what kiki flirt and what is kiki
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friendly have you guys heard this way too friendly you guys familiar with the term yeah you guys know
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this term i've never heard the term never heard the term you know the term what's kiki key help us
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out here brooke uh i would think it's like just laughing making conversation i don't know is that
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laughing it is it's like you being way too friendly with other females you're kiki yeah kiki it don't
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gotta be just that though because it could be like you know females over there are other kiki
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you know what i'm saying so it's for different things but basically he was chatting with other
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females other females yeah and then he was saying he was gonna go home and he was trolling but like
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some life happened and where he actually did go home and then i just like spazzed out because i'm
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like a week ago you just said you was about to be right where this girl's at you know what i'm saying
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so like you slashed his tires or what happened no i mean like we wasn't like we was already that was
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like the last time you guys broke up yeah that was the last time we broke how many tires just three
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or you go for no you can only do you just do now you can't do three they switched it the insurance
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companies changed it up yeah okay all right okay so uh good to know good times good times
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lizzie what about you uh yes in a relationship it'll be three years this thursday actually
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and um my longest relationship was a little over four years okay what about you um i'm in the
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talking stage right now my longest relationship was about two years um yeah longest relationship
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two years you said yeah how long has the talking stage been going on like
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a month but like it's because he's also in europe right now does he go to ucsb or no he went to
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ucla how did uh how did you guys meet dating app or um i've actually known him since i was like five
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we went to elementary school middle school and high school together okay all right and uh so are you
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guys he's in europe how long is he in europe for a month one month yeah you have any concerns that i
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don't know if you guys exclusive monogamous no i kind of i kind of said that because i think he's
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like he's in europe you know you think he's probably don't let me piping down some dutch chicks what do you
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guys think that depends on what part on what he looks like and how much what depends on what part
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of europe um well he's six six oh i don't know if that it's over for her wait he's six six oh yeah
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athlete no oh just tall like lanky guy yeah like machine gun kelly a little thing than that he's a
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rapper also no okay does he have money he is a college student so probably no okay and so
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are you dating other people no not right now in hostels he was
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is that bad what is that what that means he might are like dormitories and you can just like hear
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people having sex okay he was with his sister though so like yeah you can hear people having
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sex like they were all staying in like a big one i think that's illegal though and like most of your
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most european countries you should let him know that i don't know anyways uh what about you i have
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a boyfriend boyfriend okay same one from his last time or last time yeah new guy two years and like
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nine months now two years nine months going well it's going well i think i did a brief review of
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your instagram i don't think you post him do you i don't why is that uh by his request no he does
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his own social media and i don't he doesn't post me i don't post him he doesn't post me my snapchat's
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a little different is he a content creator he is what's he do uh just stuff on tiktok um advice
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like he's relationship advice dances to k-pop songs or what he does like relationship advice kind of
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thing yeah and so i don't post him andrew tate that's your boyfriend um you know okay i'm just kidding
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does andrew take a relationship advice on them uh what about you uh i am married and this is my
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longest relationship we've been together for 16 years 16 years all right kids uh yes we have two
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kids two kids all right how long married uh a couple years it's last time i was kind of awkward
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because i'm saying we're legally married but we still haven't had our marriage or our wedding
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so we're still on that okay yeah got it okay all right uh andrew what about you
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yeah i've been in a relationship uh been married for over a decade okay cool cool yeah hey aren't you
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the uh aren't you that based catholic chick who came on here uh not that long ago when i was
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tangling up with millie weaver yes that's me yeah that is her yeah nice to see you again by the way
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nice you did really you did really good on that show i was impressed i gave you a shout out on
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twitter after it was done thank you so much yes i am not gonna be the base catholic lady though much
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longer what well because orthodox lady yeah yes oh shit we i knew it i knew that yes is it because
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of andrew well no oh well it's a long story but um i just started digging kind of deeper into
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the schism and i realized i didn't want to submit to papal authority yes yes okay there you go join
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join the duck site all right rock and roll so to uh start off the show here with uh something
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a little on the lighter side we recently had the presidential debates okay who watched just show
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fans who watched the debate between trump and biden show of hands just just you two all right so
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really serious dating question here totally dating related if you had to choose nick pull up the photos
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would you date uh joe biden or president trump you have to choose one in their current state you can't be
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like young trump you know which so brooklyn you gotta date one oh my god which one do you pick
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to date you don't worry about their politics or maybe do i maybe worry about their politics i don't know
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i'm gonna go joe biden because he doesn't have the greatest memory and i think i could use that to my
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advantage okay all right interesting what and so how would you use it to your advantage i would take it
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day by day and probably come up with something malicious every single day to you know get what
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i want but i know his memory loss would definitely help our situation you just start you know
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siphoning from his bank account exactly just put your name in his will siphoning okay good to know
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all right she the dementia patient all right what about you it's real tough choice two very solid
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candidates but i think i would probably very solid yeah choice yes great very high volume men um i'd
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probably go for donald trump just because i think he'd be very interesting to see how he is behind
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closed doors behind closed doors he'd never get bored
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not in that wait can you justify that a little bit like who is he when he's not putting on a
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base okay are you like saying that he's like better anyways um what about you uh i'll go with
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biden neither am i tight but i would go with biden i feel like trump like you'd smash biden
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instead of trump you got smashed i have to smash yeah it's the like this is your life partner
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for like the three years they're gonna still be alive that's a i'm not that's not a threat
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i feel like you should pick trump trump so we're not fucking the same man oh but trump's wife is just
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well assume she doesn't seem like she's getting pleased so maybe biden has a few tricks up his
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sleeve wait trump's wife isn't getting pleased yeah okay all right so you'd pick trump no biden oh biden
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okay we'd have to take three okay what about you i don't even know probably trump i don't even know
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like neither of them are like you're if you're sitting here making me pick one right now you gotta
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yeah you gotta pick yeah i'm gonna go with trump okay what about you well it's a catch-22 because
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personally me lizzie would choose trump but then my family would disown me so fine biden then i guess
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okay it's a tough it's a tough one all right what about you um i'd probably choose biden the orange
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and the toupee just don't do it for me does he have a toupee i thought it was i've seen the wind
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i've seen evidence i don't know if it's true that's just like a comb over but either way it doesn't do
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it for me okay all right what about you i'm gonna go trump gonna go trump okay all right uh trump
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unfortunately maddie which one for sure okay there you go all right there you have it folks um
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andrew which uh andrew wait hold on uh i'm trying to think who the kamala harris or
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i don't know tulsi gabbard i don't know that's not fair hillary remember you don't you don't
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remember trump's wife's name well i was thinking like who would run for for pret like who would
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actually run for office but so i guess melania yeah but she's not gonna run i don't know anyways
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whatever if you want to answer i guess andrew but um so i mean if it came down to tulsi gabbard or
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um you know like you know kamala harris then definitely tulsi gabbard if it came down to
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uh trump's wife melania or any of these democrat women it would be it would definitely be melania so
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i mean yeah basically across the board i would pick the republican chick there's no doubt about that
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all right good to know good to know we're gonna just jump right into uh some of our pre-show stuff
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here really quick so i think wait what was the other thing we had to react to nick
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yeah actually i'm gonna do two chats and then we'll get into we'll do some uh clip reactions so
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uh can i have you on if you can see can i have you read yeah a question for the table including the
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men what is a bigger step in the relationship the first kiss or the first purposeful loud fart
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one means more kisses the other means less stomach aches wow okay uh yeah what's the
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bigger step in the relationship first kiss or first i'm gonna go with the part because it took me like
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six years and it was an accident the fart is a bigger step in a relationship yeah i would think
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for the man it'd be the kiss and for the woman it's the fart for sure okay i would say the fart because
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it's just that's embarrassing and i mean i feel like i would be embarrassed it was an accident when
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it first happened with me too i accidentally made my man pancakes he weren't cooked all the way through
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i was running to the bathroom and he hurt me damn okay all right no i would definitely say the fart
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yep yeah i'm gonna say first kiss it's more romantic i want a bigger step you're like well then i haven't
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taken that step and i'm not going to okay all right the fart for sure the fart the kiss okay i'd say
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the fart for sure i don't know first kiss it's just that's a throwaway first date but you ain't you
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ain't foreign on the first date i mean unless it's that you know whatever all right some people
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some really just thought-provoking questions coming in thank you john's john smith and i'll just pull
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this last chat up uh anybody here read french okay i'll have to do it la revolution culturelle
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okay thank you man appreciate it uh send that shit in english next time though uh we're gonna get
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into immediately some reacts you guys have you guys had one specific viral clip but we have
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actually quite a few clips from your guys's podcast very entertaining a couple things i agree with a
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couple things i disagree with and uh we'll just get right into it nick pull that first clip uh so did
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you restart it this is a good one this one went super viral all right it should be vital to just play
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from here make it one bigger nick like zoom in yeah there we go go ahead i'm just not gonna have a
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man's baby just to have a man's baby if a man wants me to have his baby i have two requirements
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you're gonna get a tattoo of my face on your body because it's a body for a body my body's gonna change
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forever your body's gonna change forever and my push present is either a car or a house preferably
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both but i definitely want a tattoo of my face on the father of my child's body preferably stomach
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because my stomach is gonna look different after a baby so your stomach should look different too
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i'm just not gonna have a man's baby all right so what is a what's a push present it's when you
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push shoulders through your coochie and you risk your life to bring in another life and you get
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you get a present gift and a lot of people were saying the baby was the present i don't agree with
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that i think the baby is a lifelong responsibility and it's also a blessing but it's definitely not a
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present i think you risk your life pushing out a baby yeah i mean people can do this at home
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i i plan to do it at home yeah it's not life-threatening but some people only for some
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people yeah some people have but that's an exception and that's not it's not life-threatening people do
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it all the time it's not like back in the days women would lose their lives more before
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met more modern medicine more modern yeah i'm just uh i'm just curious if you don't mind if i follow up
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on this um when you say a push present a present is usually something that you give to somebody else
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right you don't usually get yourself a present so who is this present for the present is for for me
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from my husband who i'll have my baby by so your husband's giving you the gift of a child
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um well we're making the child together but i expect a gift after so i don't understand who's
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the present for the presents for me so you buy and it's a present for himself as well because
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you know happy would you consider it to be a really sad birthday party if you were the only one who
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showed up to it and you bought your own presents for your birthday party um that just depends in the
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financial state i'm at and where i'm at at the time i think i don't think of can you give me like
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an example any example you could possibly think of of it's your birthday and you're the only one
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at a party for yourself and you bought the presents for your birthday and then you open your own
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presents that you bought for yourself can you give me an example of any case where that wouldn't be
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totally sad and pathetic maybe wrapping it would be a little overboard but i don't think buying
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yourself gifts for your own birthday is a terrible idea i do it every year yeah but that's just buying
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yourself something it's not a gift right is it isn't kind of a gift definitionally a thing for
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somebody else a present is usually something you get for somebody i like i don't really think that we
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would in kind of the common use that when people say the word present they mean uh for me it
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it usually means for you yeah so i'm just wondering who's the present it's not for the father right
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the present's not for the right it's for you yes so maybe so you just use push present because it
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just sounds clever maybe i didn't make up the term you know it's i wouldn't be the first person
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requesting or receiving a push present yeah push packing push presents go back like
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so it's basically what the husband buys the woman something for after birth yeah okay the push present
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just so we have this the push present you're the present isn't the kid the present is what the
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husband gives you as a present because you gave birth yes go ahead okay i see so the baby itself is not
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the gift yeah the baby is not the baby is not a gift okay so you're getting a gift and you consider
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that you deserve the gift because you had the baby yes okay so then this means that the year you are
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giving the baby to the man uh the idea would be to raise the child together okay but you just deserve
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a present well i uh sat and i did the pregnancy i'm the only one that can go through that so
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yeah i would get the present okay i get i get it now i think i understand so you have baby you get a
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present because you have a baby you said maybe yeah you have baby you get present because you have baby
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yes okay got it is it less meaningful because you're asking for it though no i think it's a good
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idea to put your expectations on the table so like i want this when i give birth and you're going to be
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like yay okay exactly so what if it doesn't happen what are some things that a husband deserves a present
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for that's a good question i haven't really thought about that but i do love to give i'm not just
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someone that receives but um i think presents could be given all the time i don't think that
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there needs to be a special occasion necessarily i think it'd be nice to see something when you're
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out if it reminds you of someone you get it for them and you want a house yes or a car i think right
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or a car can it be like a like a pre-owned uh toyota civic is that what they're called can it be a tiny
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home honda civic oh my god obviously not a car guy that wouldn't be my preferred like 100k miles
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i don't think that would be the smartest car to put a baby in
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okay a toyota range rover is that even a toyota god what is wrong with me today
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toyota forerunner you think of forerunner forerunner yeah which one's the range rover
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uh is that a jeep is no the range rover is the brand it's its own brand
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oh what's it called uh take back my man card i guess i don't know um i think it was the hundred
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thousand miles that scared me off not necessarily the car um and then the tattoo you want the man
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should get a tattoo of your face yeah on his belly yeah preferably on the belly yeah like you
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would you accept like arm someone has a tattoo of my face on their arm i would i'd want the stomach
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somebody already has a tattoo of your face on their arm yeah she didn't ask for that no it's
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like a fan or something like a guy you dated the was it the eight year guy he has a he's he's got a
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tattoo on your arm he has a tattoo of my face on his arm i'm dyslexic today or something he has a
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tattoo of your face on his arm yeah when did he how far into the relationship did he get that
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we were probably together already seven years now did you ask for him to do that or he just did it
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it was a surprise okay do you have a photo of it on your instagram anywhere we can find it or
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i don't or is it private i don't think okay that's fine i was just curious um so tattoo
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of your face on the man's stomach i mean this is uh assuming that the man i would end up with
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would already have tattoos this is not like if i got with the guy that had no tattoos i would think
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okay you know sure body for body body for body body for body okay uh just question how many kids
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do you want to have i would like to adopt but uh maybe two of my own and then two hundred dollars
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just one sec the best present to give is hawk tour patrice o'neill said it best men want to be alone
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but we don't want to be by ourselves ladies remember varg comes as a base model you're not special
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damn okay he's going off there um the best present the hawk too you've seen that video i've seen the
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video that's really not what i that doesn't really do it for for the boys this i don't know what why
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this like obsession with that like is it that hard to like spit on a just to spit anybody can
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spit i mean everyone has their own requirements and their own request yeah you know but it's just
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like why is everyone going crazy i think it's just funny but it's like anybody can do that shit
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anyways um wait so okay you want to i would like to have kids maybe adopt but i would uh like to have
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two of my own two of your own okay i see if you guys end up having uh twins or like triplets would
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he have to get three of your heads like a i think with that if i had twins or triplets hopefully not
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but i would i'm fine with the one face just i'm probably gonna have to get a nicer car a nicer house
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gotcha oh one question going back so that is a clip from your podcast your podcast is called what
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something for that ass podcast can you explain um what the the title something for that ass it's just
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like um you know we have something for that ass we have something for you like you you do we have
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something to say like something for that ass for for that ass like is it a specific ass no it's anyone
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it's my ass it's the viewer's ass i thought it was like something for that ass like that's a
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thousand dollars for that ass more like something for anyone's ass that watches it something and so
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the content is something and the ass is the the viewer yeah okay all right so i got a quick question
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for you i wanted to follow up i was thinking about this um i hadn't really heard this idea of a body
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for a body can i just get a a point of clarification is the idea behind this that your body is in some
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way being destroyed and therefore uh you want the other person to make a sacrifice as well with their
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body because you're making a sacrifice with your own is that is that kind of what the logic is here
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yes okay so then if you have an abortion what should happen to you if i have an abortion what
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should happen to me um yeah body for a body right i'm a little confused on the question
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what should happen to me if i were to get an abortion yeah body for a body
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uh well i wouldn't be going through the pregnancy so yeah i know but you know there was your body
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there was another there was another person who was involved here right and you destroyed that
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person so what should happen to you body for a body
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so you're saying if i were to get an abortion and they were to already had gotten the tattoo or
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you're saying just i'm the reason i'm saying no i'm saying that if you have an abortion killing a
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baby so if you kill a baby right if and the baby has a body and you've destroyed the body
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what should be the punishment for your body i don't know i guess that's up to god i don't
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really have an answer why can't it be up to man i mean i think it could be up to man too right
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i haven't really thought about that oh you haven't thought about it well i'm just saying following the
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logic of uh you destroy body therefore they must destroy body on your behalf what if you destroy
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another body i think in that case wouldn't the logic follow that then something bad should happen to
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your body what do you think would be appropriate uh well i don't know but the death penalty maybe
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death penalty for abortion um i mean that's your your thoughts and your well no i'm just saying
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logically if it's if it's just well it's not so so the reason the reason you're saying get the tattoo
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is because that is some kind of sacrifice from your body that's in some way in your mind equalizing
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the sacrifice that your body makes but what if the sacrifice is much worse than that it's like
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almost a human sacrifice level because you've destroyed the entire body of the other individual
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shouldn't kind of the sacrifice on the other end be equal to that isn't that what the logic is here
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i think now we're getting into abortion talk i think if you're going to get an abortion you think
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that's the right thing to do then you're doing what you should think what you think would be best for
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the baby right yeah what if it's at nine months what if they get an abortion at nine months or eight
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months then it's clearly a full body right then it's clearly a full body so shouldn't it be some
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kind of restitution body for body since you've now damaged the body don't now isn't it i mean isn't it
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this kind of like eye for an eye is what we're doing here i mean partially but it's also just like if
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i'm going to be the mother of your child i think you should honor me in some way yeah but i mean
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what if your mother kills your child what should the honor for you be then i really don't know how
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to answer that question okay well i was just curious because um it seems like there's kind of a little
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embedded entailment there right that uh if you want another person to damage themselves because that
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in some way is a sacrifice which is equal to your own then what if they make the ultimate sacrifice
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in this case you know they die because of your decision don't you think that the restitution
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then should be equal to what it is that you served out since we're doing an eye for an eye here
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i don't personally think so but i'm just more so i believe that the person i'm gonna end up with is
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going to be tatted and he'll do well for himself so i don't think my requests and requirements are that
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crazy okay we have the labor of the point so when we have uh quite a few uh video reactions to get
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through we'll we'll do a few then we'll come back to some more later uh there's definitely quite a
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quite a few actually kind of maybe one quick follow-up question on that though going around the table
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do you think that a man ought to in some sort of scenario do you think a man should take a bullet
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or be willing to take a bullet for his wife or girlfriend even yes not not necessarily not
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necessarily yes yes yes but vice versa too i feel like agree vice versa yes yes vice versa yeah
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uh so my husband and i actually have had this conversation and it's my thought process has
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changed especially since i've had kids because if there was a situation where it was him or i
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i would want him to be alive because he would be much more better equipped to take care of our kids
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he's just amazing but yeah i would much rather you take the bullet all right got it um
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would that be a fair body for body like the potential future risk of man having to protect you in some
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way ultimately the ultimate manifestation of that would be him dying for you is that would that be
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uh enough justification for the body for body thing you're saying that if i were had someone's baby and
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someone so he's willing to die for you it maybe it never happens like you could go your whole life
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being married he never has to you know intervene in some sort of self-defense situation but he would
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be prepared to if the event happens yeah anyways uh nick can you pull up the next tab so this is the
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same now hang on this is super interesting though uh if you don't mind i would actually like to follow
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up on this uh brian's question that he brings up here is fantastic he's asking he's saying look
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if it's a body for a body if the idea here is you're sacrificing on behalf of me because i'm sacrificing
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on behalf of you but the expectation is that he dies for you if the situation comes up right wouldn't
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that be enough of a sacrifice already i mean yeah that's great i just like i said i don't know why
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my requirements gets everyone so upset you know i'm not does anybody look upset i mean i mean not you
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guys i'm frothing but at the mouth but you know i think that i don't i think that that's just cope
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so i think what happens a lot is that um it's easier for people to look through a prism when people
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are kind of questioning their world views or things that they want uh to just say ah that you're upset
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or you're angry or or something like that yeah i think that i think that that's just coping though
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we're just curious right when somebody makes a statement like that uh piques other people's
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curiosity and they want to know they want to know how you came to it what your thought process is
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around it that kind of well you guys are saying that you know we could potentially go through the
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whole marriage it can never happen but it could just how if you give birth you could possibly die
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correct i know yeah well i would say i would say that that tracks ability yeah yeah so i would say
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that tracks but i think it's beside the point so i think what brian's asking is if the man is going
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to lay their life down for the woman and the family first meaning they're going to be the first
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one who rushes into danger on behalf of you and the children isn't that already enough of a sacrifice
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why would you why would you want uh some type of bodily harm to them if they're willing to make
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that sacrifice already on your behalf could there really be any ultimate sacrifice a man could make
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well i'm making a sacrifice as well so and i feel like they wouldn't see it as them harming their
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body they are if they take a bullet well if we're talking about the tattoo if we're talking about the
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tattoo on okay the tattoo because if a man really loves you and he already has tattoos i understand if
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he has naked skin but if he already has tattoos that could come from a place of wanting and do you want
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it too do you also want the tattoo um well my ex had my name tattooed i have my own personal
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requirements but i don't see that her your ex got your name tattooed on him yeah where on his arm did
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you get his name tattoo on you no damn this is like really one way hold on so okay tell me but like so
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with with the name with the name and with the face tattoo like i'm unless they watch your podcast or
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whatever like is this something you're gonna tell a dude like hey i want your name tattooed on me
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i did i told him not to do it actually i want your face surprise no no but you said you said like when
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you have a kid he has to oh yeah it has to i i would um you would talk to him i would definitely
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lay it down and that's another thing i would how far along in the pregnancy or is it like even before
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the pregnancy like conception boom you got to get a tattoo of my face even if we were just talking
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about getting to that next step pretend you and me are married and i just impregnated you
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let's have the convo right now tell me brian to be like brian just have the convo with me i want
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you to get the tattoo go ahead i'm listening well the thing is i would tell you before you married
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me i would tell you we're married hold on let me get the room so you're saying you would tell him
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before y'all even get to the stage here throw this shit on just kidding okay um we're married i would
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never you're pregnant man i yeah no trapping well that's what i'm saying a man would know exactly what
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he's getting into when he's dealing with me right but you have to have the conversation initially
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right let's say he doesn't want your podcast okay so let's have the conversation i'm your man
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you're eight weeks pregnant let's have the convo i would be like oh i'm eight weeks pregnant let's
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start looking at what instagram photo you like of my face wait what uh oh babe i like all your
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instagram photos but why do you want to look at instagram photos i say maybe this one for for for
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what for a tattoo for uh where but you wouldn't be this the conversation wouldn't be happening like
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this because we wouldn't be married and we wouldn't already be pregnant well what's the fine okay
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what's the initial conversation like give me the pitch it's not really a pitch it's just uh what the
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man has to know at some point about the tattoo honestly at this point since the video is so viral
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i probably just you just show it to him yeah send it to him so he would there wouldn't even be a
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combo i mean or we could sit what if you send it to him what if you send it to him and he's like
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i ain't doing that shit but he never tells you and now you're pregnant and that tattoo ain't ever
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happening i mean divorce no not a divorce but i mean i wouldn't so let's have the convo okay you
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and me so you're saying you're not getting that tattoo am i too pale for you just curious am i a
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little too light-skinned you're perfect okay all right there you go all right all right uh we're
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dating go ahead all right so you're not getting the tattoo well i can't force you to do anything
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no no no just uh i don't know anything about this tattoo thing we're dating i don't know how pregnant
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you are maybe you're not even pregnant yet whatever point in the relationship you feel it's appropriate
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to have this conversation let's have the convo go ahead i would say if you want to make a baby i
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would like you to get a tattoo on my face once the baby is already here wait that's that's how
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you would say it it wouldn't be like hey babe how you doing no can you tattoo me on your stomach
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well but i mean isn't this kind of perfect though because like if i was in that situation you said
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yeah after the baby's here you need to get a tattoo i'd be like yeah sure baby i'll get the tattoo and
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you'd have the baby like i ain't fucking doing that shit you're out of your mind so then so then
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what happens like what what happens then then if it's like um if it's not a man okay now the baby's
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here right and i'm like well i know i said that i was gonna do that but i'm not doing that shit what
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happens then i would say you're not a man of your word and i can't respect the man that's not a man
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of his word yeah so so if it's so that if it loses all respect because i fibbed about getting a
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tattoo of your face on me we already have a child is it time to go
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these are i mean i wouldn't probably i probably would not end a marriage over someone wanting
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not wanting to get a tattoo but if a man was like yeah i'm gonna get a tattoo and then he was like
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just kidding i would be kind of probably not wanting to lay down with him and definitely not
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giving him a second baby i got i got some last thing on this andrew unless you wanted to uh you
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no no i was just uh i was just curious i mean it just seems like it's a really easy thing to kind
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of thwart the preference right you just be like well okay baby no problem i'll get that tattoo and
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then you get and then the baby comes and you're like nah it's just you know you are absolutely right
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and you just um change my requirement to the tattoo has to be before we uh first date first date he's
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got to get the tattoo not first date but you know before a raw sex do you think they're not
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before raw sex like you don't think they're bad luck you haven't heard that i think i believe it's i
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think whatever you believe in is what you believe in and whatever you put emphasis on is what's gonna
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i feel like i feel like people like when you see matching tattoos like people are preying on their
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downfall because that's just like a ridiculous like no she's not gonna get a tattoo oh i have no
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tattoo no no not even matching tattoos like if i got a someone i would hope that somebody would
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almost like pray on my downfall praying like that's like great like if i did it for you if
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i prayed on your downfall because you would hope someone would pray on your downfall no i'm saying
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like if i prayed on your downfall because you had your husband get a tattoo of your face on his
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stomach like don't you think wait why would that wouldn't work out you could you could return energy
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back to sender but you don't have to would she would you would you return energy back to me i
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just don't know i don't even think about people praying on my downfall i don't really have those
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thoughts how do you not think it's like bad luck to get your face not something that consumes my
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mind i just think about other things that's crazy to see it as beautiful art and dedication
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okay so final question on this then we're going to move it off of the tattoo thing or whatever
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for the body for body thing uh do you want to be like stay at home wife like you kind of want the
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man to work you stay at home uh no i still want to work uh maybe remotely but i would like to
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i think it's important for women to work just have a sense of their own identity and have other stuff
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going on well okay so what about like when you're pregnant and then the early years of having the kids
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first couple years would you want to be working then uh if i yeah remotely like if i i would work
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from home for sure so like okay but i wouldn't leave well do you want your husband to preferably
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be the breadwinner uh i mean i plan to make a lot of money but i would like us to both make good money
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okay all right but what i want him to provide yes would you be willing to date a blue collar worker
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yeah okay so like say a guy who a roofer a plumber yes someone who uh uh concreting yes construction
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worker electrician okay would you agree that these jobs tend to be very physical uh physically laborious
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and can actually over the course of uh someone's uh career cause damage to their body bad knees bad
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back etc would that would that count towards your body for a body thing
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so you said you do like remote work in the house i'm assuming your house would be
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nice and air conditioned but if you were dating a guy who's out there doing backbreaking labor
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in order to support you and your children would that be body for body um
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i mean it is but i would still want still the tattoo okay i don't think anyone can change my mind on
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it can i just ask one question yeah what exactly do you think happens to your body like
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that you think it's like ruined do you i don't think it's ruined i think that you can look better
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after pregnancy i know women that look but even better after pregnancy i have a friend she's
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on her third kid she looks the best i've ever seen her so if he doesn't think it's aesthetically
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pleasing to have a tattoo on his stomach and you admit that your body isn't necessarily going to be
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like ruined what what would be the trade it's not about it being ruined it's just changed right
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it's like your body you're a mom you know your body has changed it's not that it's ruined
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no but it changed right yeah it changed so but you originally phrased it like uh you were
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sacrificing your body and you could potentially die like the way you described pregnancy i was just
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like oh my god like i was not on the verge of almost dying or feeling like i went nine months my
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life was completely normal and nothing happened like well that's amazing for you but that's just
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not everyone's experience but that's i would say the way you're describing it like sacrificing your
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body and all of that that seems like more of the outlier i would say my experience would probably more
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be more sort of the general experience and i had my kids kind of old so if i had my kids even younger
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my body would have bounced back better and it would have been probably even 10 times easier
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so i just think my i'm not like necessarily um upset at the way you're talking it's just kind of
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when i hear you i'm just like wow i wonder what she thinks exactly happens like well i think every
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woman has their own individual experience when it comes to pregnancies i've heard some great stories
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like you're saying you know you didn't you got through your pregnancies fairly well and easy not
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everyone has the same experience so how do i know i'm not going to have an easy going experience
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i think i'm just i'm maybe hyper focused on the word like sacrifice you're sacrificing your body
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i didn't see it that way i felt like i'm lucky enough to actually be like bringing uh life into
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this world i wasn't like oh my god this is such a sacrifice well you're giving up your life essentially
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to so that's an that's also a kind of an interesting way that you're phrasing it how did i give up my
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life well your life is now your children's life no yeah so that's is that just your life anymore it's
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no and so i would actually say my life really began when i became a mom because i never even
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experienced all the amazing things that i experienced until i had a kid um and they i mean
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i'm not going to get like all crazy with it but it's amazing you'll never know until you have your
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own kid and you realize in that very moment after you have the most incredible pain you have are
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followed by the most euphoric feeling of your entire life and you look at this like little tiny baby
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and you realize that you would do anything in the world for them you would give up your life like
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that it wouldn't even be a question well and that's your mindset totally changes in that very second but
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again that's an individual experience not every woman feels like that after giving birth not saying
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that i wouldn't feel like that but there's some women that don't feel even a connection to their child
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after they give birth and then but you think they'll feel a connection when they get like a pretty
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piece of jewelry or a house they'll feel better i mean i can't speak for i don't speak for everyone
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else i speak for myself okay just curious we've lost i think we andrew can you hear us oh wait okay
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i think we're getting nick can you show me the stream or the chat we lost you guys for a second
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uh chat one in the chat if the stream's okay uh how long did that last chat 10 seconds 20 seconds 30
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seconds nick just keep an eye on that please um i just managed to catch it it's like maybe maybe two
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seconds 10 seconds okay it's fine uh i'm gonna move things along we have a lot of clips to get through
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so for the sake of time we are going to try to get through these clips quickly because i you guys got
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a lot of clips i watched almost all oh it's more of ours oh yeah there's like 20 20 of your clips
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we'll split it up into segments but 20 yeah oh wow there were 20 clips that i found interesting
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nick pull up the next oh uh well pull up the hold on pull it up
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oh yeah so this is the one that went viral like half a million likes and actually was interesting
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like a lot of girls i don't know if you saw this one in specific a lot of comments were uh co-signing
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so so brave perfectly logical she knows her worth hundreds of thousands of likes on the comments
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bare minimum for carrying a child the whole house car tattoo thing bare minimum um this one seems to
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disagree the licensing for podcast i disagree with that because then we would also be subject to the
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whole licensing thing she's right though why men are crying makes sense anyways anyways yeah i think
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a lot of people are upset because uh when women start asking and expecting more out of men
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before they just decide to bring in life what i i have a question but like maybe what if there was a
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counter proposal what if the man said listen i will definitely get the tattoo but only on my ass cheek
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and only if you kiss it what the honestly that's uh that's pretty kinky and i'm into that so oh there
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you go boom sign her up i'm not all right nick next clip please all right uh go ahead yeah men have
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virgin fetishes and there's only two reasons why one you suck in bed and a virgin wouldn't know that
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you suck in bed because they don't know anything two you're a fucking pedophile to be hyper fixated on
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a woman being a virgin is the same thing as a man being hyper fixated on bald coochie if i ever hear
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a man say y'all don't want no coochie if it's hairy you're fucking weird you like little girls don't be
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coming up in my comments talking about oh if you're not a virgin then you're not you pull no value it's
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it's creepy you push and pee and it's pedophile baby you erroneous holy okay wow damn all right
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there's a lot there so okay uh what in the name of made up a bunch of bullshit was that
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what in the name of just made up a bunch of bullshit was that garbage i i gotta hear an
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explanation for this why is that garbage well before if if we can before we get into that
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let's just bring the whole panel in on this so uh going around the table agree disagree
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with what the clip that just okay so if you're a man and you have a preference for women who are
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virgins uh you suck in bed you're a pedophile and those were the two main points
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i would disagree disagree and also even though even though we did play it if you guys could avoid the
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use of the p word and instead um use different language that'd be great yeah uh so instead of
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that we'll just say uh what what p word pushing p let's just do p word okay yeah that works all
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right i'll agree you agree okay what about you agree or disagree i agree but i know it's more to that
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too so there's more to it yeah like i think i agree but it's definitely more than just those
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two reasons oh there's other reasons i mean i feel like there is more reasons but um okay it is kind
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of weird that i don't know i guess it's preference thing but okay if you're a grown man and you want
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somebody to be a virgin what about you no disagree disagree yeah i also disagree but i do agree with the
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fact that if it's you should not require it to be bald it should be hairy or not you should like it
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either way like full-on 70s bush they should like it however you have it if they love you they like
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it however you have it okay i see what lily means but i think that preference isn't a p word thing
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it's just preference so okay i disagree disagree okay so really uh really quick on the bald coochie
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thing and then we'll come back to the whole virgin thing really quick uh so it also p word if he
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prefers a woman to shave i was just trying to give like an example i it's not i understand why
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someone would want it bald i could understand that but to there's some men that
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they come off almost as not to me but just because you guys have to remember i'm going based off
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this clip that was made we do our podcast and segments so every fourth episode is a recap and
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roast and we go based off the comments that we get so most comments from that segment we're talking
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about virgin i can okay virgins and all that and i just think a man being hyper fixated on a virgin or
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someone being completely bald down there is that's a little off to me it's a little off-putting
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because what so what does that stem from wait i just want to make sure i get this right
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it gives you the ick right it gives you the ick it gives me it it's concern it's alarming to me it's
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not an ick it's alarming oh why is it why is it alarming can i ask you a question on this so
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do you prefer a man clean shaven or with a beard i prefer a beard you prefer a beard yes okay would
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you object if i were to say that women who don't like beards are definitely p words because that's
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not your private parts it's preference it's all preference i think that's what brian's trying to
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make is like it is a preference to have it bald and i do agree with like even what lily was saying
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that it is just whatever kind of like what you want to have but i don't think a preference is wrong
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if you prefer men without beards why are you a p word you're not it's just a preference i think
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for some it's a preference and some it's a demand i think that goes for everything but i just i'm just
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curious though i would like to to kind of get into this if you don't mind um what the hell is wrong
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with having that demand like so let's say let's say that we have a 35 year old man and he just
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demands to have a virgin he's not going to date unless you're a virgin and unless you're shaved
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down there that's what he likes can you tell me hang on hang on hang on let me finish the question
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can you actually tell me one reason why that would be immoral in any way shape or form why
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that would actually be immoral not you know here's what i'm not looking for what i'm not looking for
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is well it gives me the ick i'm actually looking for a it's immoral because
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i just think that unless a man is a virgin himself he shouldn't be requesting for a woman to be a virgin
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if he's a virgin himself because what's what's the uh obsession with a virgin because he just wants
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one what's wrong with that why what's the reason there's always a reason because wait wait because
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because he does what's wrong with that so he woke up one morning and he so here's i want to give you
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the whole scenario right i won't leave anything to the imagination he wakes up one morning and he
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stretches and he goes oh i want a virgin what is the problem with that like i actually want to know
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after already like what if he's like his thing is for virgins so yeah he woke up that morning he
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slammed half of la he has banged half of la twice and he had a good time doing it and he wakes up on a
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thursday and he stretches and he says i just want myself a virgin i've always wanted one and that's
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what i'm going for because that's my preference what the hell is wrong i actually want to know
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what's wrong with that what's the problem i think as long as he's not bashing i'm just looking for
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anything other than it's icky anything other than that
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i don't i just know that's not a man i would uh surround myself with change the split
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you're fine you're fine oh i i don't really have anything to say i just think it's weird that men
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are hyper fixated you have to remember i'm going based off my comment section so when yeah i think
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it's weird that you're hyper fixated on men who have that preference that's really weird
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it gives me the air that they always comment stuff like that yeah i know because it seems like they have
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the preference that you guys are virgins and you're not right and that's the point and i actually have
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a bit of a follow-up on this so you said you've been celibate for two years right over two years yeah
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over two years and you said your previous relationship was uh wait eight years eight years
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i mean i'm i'm imagining you're not a virgin but i'm imagining it sounds like it's given we haven't
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got into your other videos yet from what you've disclosed in your other videos it actually sounds
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like you at least what you're putting out there that you have a low body count so i'm just curious
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why would you object to men having a preference that actually leans more towards how you are that's
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what i what that's what confuses me well i'm not a virgin i you're not a virgin but you low i mean
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it's fine to you know i think it's fine if you want a woman that hasn't slept with a bunch of
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people that's if that's your preference that's fine but for a virgin that's kind of and my only
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the only thing i can say for that unless you're a virgin yourself i just for like religious reasons
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or whatever i don't think it's appropriate well so okay wouldn't the ultimate manifestation
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of kind of the way that you choose to move which is celibacy it sounds like and my understanding is
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and i think we'll see this in some of your future videos is you you're saying you're waiting until
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marriage for your next partner is that correct to have sex i said abstaining from sex i'm not waiting
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till marriage but i wouldn't just lay down with anyone okay but so wouldn't a virgin be the ultimate
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manifestation of essentially what you're doing which is celibacy and sexual purity
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i just think that when men my whole reasoning for the video is that men's argument is that you hold
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no value unless you're a virgin that's what all the comments are you hold no value if you're if you have
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no if you're not a virgin you don't hold value so i don't know where that comes from and i think
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i think men tell on themselves in their comments well it's not clear to me if if large swaths like large
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populations of men would refuse to date a woman if she had for example a body count of one as opposed
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to being a virgin it might be more preferable that she's a virgin it's not clear to me if it would
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immediately be a deal breaker unless they were like devoutly religious or something but
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i think it's a general preference that men do prefer women with lower body counts and the ultimate
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manifestation of that would be a woman who's a virgin but i don't think men are like
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oh she has a body count of one i'm refusing to date her especially if they're not virgins themselves
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but you think it's the case that like like what percentage of men would you say will exclusively
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only date virgin women i mean has to be well sorry i go ahead i really i don't know i well you said a lot
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of men say i said not that they date them i think that's what they want you know they because
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wouldn't a lot of women want to date a billionaire honestly who what woman wouldn't want to date a
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billionaire if if they had access billionaires can be kind of scary i wouldn't want to date a
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billionaire you really i wouldn't you mean like literally hundreds of generations of your children
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would be financially oh no that's a lot of generations like you would be financially set you
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never have to work a day in your life everything in your life would be taken care of everything you
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wouldn't date a billionaire a billionaire i mean i'm not saying i never say never but i just think
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a lot of billionaires are probably not the type of people that i would want to date you wouldn't
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secure your bloodline for like dozens of generations financially i'd rather be happy well what if you
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could be happy with a billionaire i'm guaranteed happiness let's assume here let's assume i'm let's
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assume the guy who's making forty thousand dollars a year is a good guy and the billionaire who's making
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a billion dollars a year is also a good guy which one do you pick
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so we're saying that i'm totally into this guy okay obviously if i'm into this guy that's why i say
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never say never but i mean yeah you'd prefer for your man to have money and to be able to provide
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so if we're looking at that as a spectrum like on the extreme end you have a billionaire
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but then like okay you have a guy who makes 100k which is still very good right so can you like view
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it in that lens of perhaps on the extreme end you have a virgin but then like still very uh solid life
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partner would be a woman who has a sub five body count one two three four five something like that
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so the ultimate preference would be a billionaire or a woman who's a virgin
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but most people would be totally fine partnering with somebody who uh does have a low body counter
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who makes less than a billion dollars but that would be if the men were commenting oh my preference
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would be this this these are comments saying you hold no value if you're not a virgin if you're a virgin
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then you don't have a say like that's why this video was made it seems a bit of like a straw man though
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i don't hear a lot of men saying well i would refuse to date a woman if she had a body count of one
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well people are not commenting that so i wasn't responding to people that so you're saying people
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are people are saying what that they prefer to date a virgin they weren't saying i prefer to date what
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are they saying that non-virgins have no value no value that's what i was just i don't hear this
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frequently even in like dating spaces so i think a lot of people say things on the internet they would
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never say in real life that's fair so um people feel very bold on the internet so let's get back
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to the two actual original claims though i i wonder if i can if i can dive in just briefly brian if
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that's all right uh andrew let me just make one more point and then i'll have you come in real quick
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so uh just really quick on your double standards thing so you said well it's only it would be okay
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for a virgin man to want a virgin woman otherwise if you have a body count as a man wrong for you to
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desire a virgin that's your position on that i don't it's not i mean that's your preference
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but to shame a woman for not being a virgin when you're far from it is concerning to me
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well it's i don't know if that was your original argument but it did sound like only your position
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was only men who are virgins either deserve or should prefer virgin women yeah i feel okay so hold
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on um so let me ask you a question in order for you to want to be with someone need you be exactly the
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same like so in order for you desire a trait in a partner need you also possess said trait
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so you're saying based on my low body count well so you're saying as a guy if you want to date a
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virgin you should be a virgin too that's essentially what you're saying so my question is in order for
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you to desire a trait in a partner need you also possess that trait in order for you to desire it
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i mean this is the thing it's it's a pre okay your preference you're just like oh i'm just a guy i'm
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i'm saying that if it's just a preference right let's say it's a strong very strong preference yeah
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i mean i'm still taking my stance on it should be maybe if a guy slept with one or two girls maybe
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that's more fair but no let's say he's got a body count of a hundred and he but he still wants to
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date a woman who's a virgin because he he's made some sort of analysis or assessment and he's
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determined well i think when it comes to having a girlfriend life partner a woman who has a lower
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a low body count or in fact who's has no body count would make for the best partner for me
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he's just made that assessment then that's his requirement that's his requirement i don't know
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well you might acknowledge that he's he he can have it but you would object to it is that correct
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yeah i just think there's just a lot of weirdos and creeps out there and that's what the video was
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made those that's who the video but you would you would object to that okay so i guess let me ask you
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a question a woman who's not funny but she desires a guy who's funny and can make her laugh
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do you object to that because she doesn't possess the trait in which she desires in a partner
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no you don't object would you object to a woman who had brown eyes who wanted to partner with blue
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so i well i so i don't understand here um if if i can give you a physical characteristic which i
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would say virginity is a physical characteristic the physical characteristic if you have brown eyes
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you only desire people who have blue eyes does that then is that then alarming to you no well how
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come that's not alarming to you but the idea that a man who's not a virgin would desire a virgin
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because one one is a physical attribute the other one is a vulnerable act
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well i don't understand they're both physical attributes no because the color of your hair the
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color of your eyes is different than popping your cherry having sex for the first time that is but
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they're both but hang on there that both of those would be physical attributes virginity would be a
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physical attribute but you could look at someone and say oh you have blue eyes they're pretty you can't
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look at someone say oh you're a virgin or not no no but let's assume you will only
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date men who have blue eyes that's it your preference is i have brown eyes and i will
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only date men who have blue eyes is that is that alarming to you no okay but i don't understand why
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why is it that if uh you have the preference i'll only date men who have blue eyes uh that that's not
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the not alarming but i will only date virgins is alarming but can maybe you can square this for me
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and brian because that's what he's getting after he's wondering it just screams the p word i just
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not i i can't personally wrap my head around the idea of someone being so so hyper fixated
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on wanting a woman to be there so there's why well wait wait wait hang on i'm sorry i'm
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do you associate uh desire of virginity with the p word that's your association i think uh there's
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some correlation to that yes yeah what's the correlate
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um the same thing as the example i give want to having uh only wanting it to be bald i just think
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what does that resemble a little girl well wait does it not hang on wait does being a virgin and
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and being completely bald down there so then i assume that you would be against six foot eight
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men dating four foot ten women no well i don't understand what do they resemble what does a four
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foot ten woman resemble to a six foot eight man i think you could tell if uh even if based on
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someone's high i think you could still tell if they're of age oh saying and could you maybe tell
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that with other parts of their body too well oh i got a question i got a question hang on i just want
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to know can you tell that with other parts of the body too um maybe if uh maybe if the girl you
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were sleeping with had only had some really really small peen small what peen pee pee pee yeah the guy
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has a small maybe if a small maybe if he had a micro peen then what the adults can have small pps
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yeah what are you talking about that's bizarre what do you mean like that that doesn't even make
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any sense like what do you what do you mean so i'm really curious here if the association in your
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mind is you must be the p word or in some way associated with the p word because you prefer virginity
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and guess what guess what else are virgins out there uh you know underage people those are virgins as
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well so you make that association okay but there's all sorts of things that you can then associate
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with that which would just include things like i prefer youthful looking women who aren't virgins
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let's say well that's still associated with with with the same thing or short women that's associated
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with the same thing right or women who only eat macaroni and cheese i guess or that's their favorite
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dish i could associate that with a kind of prepubescent mentality so why is it that you make
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only this association that's really weird it makes me think that you have a screw loose and that you are
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making an association that other people would not uh attribute to children that's not what when you
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think child that is not what people attribute to child why do you attribute that to child
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i don't think i'm uh this genius that's like came up with this idea that being bald down there or
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being a virgin kind of correlates i'm saying only wanting that wait really quick if i can jump in
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here really quick andrew and i'll pass it right back on the bald thing on the bald thing you said
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well how would you know so let me ask you a question i'm at let's say it's a 30 year old woman
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and she's she's told you she's 30 on her dating app it says 30 and but she's bald down there and
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she's down there and right next to the like on the bed is a uh driver's license a photo id her birth
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certificate and a sworn statement with witnesses under penalty of perjury that she is in fact 30 years
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old but she also has you know shaved she's bald down there is that still i mean i'm not stuff i'm not
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saying that if you do under penalty of perjury every month like oh wait i'm saying wait you get
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waxed yes i'm not saying i'm i guess i'm saying for a man to be like uh like hairy coochie is just
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like i can't i can't i just kind of feel like one you're ungrateful and two it's kind of it's kind
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of off-putting wait so you don't have any grooming preferences for men like you're fine with full 70s
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bush i prefer hair but i mean like full book like never groomed a day in their life full bush
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jungle status yes they braid that shit too i would help you're fine with the braids you will
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i will i will save a souvenir so to kind of uh explore the rest of this and i think brian makes
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a good point here that's actually where i was going to go with it next because i'm just as curious as he
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would you associate uh hair on a man with with being a man right that is definitely a trait of
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of uh you know being an adult male would be hair right and you would also associate then that a
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male who has very little hair you would associate with a boy right
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um i don't see my thing is it would be like me so so well here so here's the thing let me just show
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you where i'm going with this i'll land the plane as they say really quickly if a woman's preference
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is to only have men who you know have no body hair because they get rid of it by shaving it or whatever
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you know however they do it um are they the p word are those women alarming to you are they
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disgusting p words because they want a man who removes all of their body hair and that's what
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they want no well i don't understand the association well i'm sorry you can't understand and i don't
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know if you want to hear i'm sorry that you can't explain but try to explain i'm trying to understand
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this is just my stance on it i think it's weird when you know hundreds and hundreds of comments are
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uh all they can think talk and speak about is a virgin i think is their preference that's weird
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that all that they talk about is their preferences i do think it's weird to take time out of your day
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and type some weird comments like that well it's really weird to me that you think it's weird that
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you would put your opinion out there and say here's my opinion on x thing now don't say anything about
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it that's really weird isn't the whole point of engaging in a dialogue or putting your opinion
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out there is because you want feedback from the audience and the people who are watching
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so that they can express what their opinion is and they express theirs and then i express back
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right but if they're all expressing or a good number of them are expressing that this is a
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preference why do you immediately associate that with the p word when we when we hold you to the same
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standard apparently that is not p word like behavior if a woman wants a hairless man well that's just
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fine but if a man wants a hairless woman he's a p word can you make that make sense for me
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i don't think i can i'm sorry i don't think you can either but i appreciate it do you think more
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women prefer to be groomed versus men who have that preference i would say yes more women do i mean
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just even for myself i get wax um monthly and i've been abstaining from sex it's no one for it's not
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for anyone but myself yeah because i was just thinking like i see girls at the beach there's no way
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they're trying to go around to the beach with like a full-on bush um because they want their
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bathing suit as small as possible and then my second point i was thinking when you were saying
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some of this is it's only relatively recently that women would leave uh high school without their
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virginity intact so when men would prefer a virgin they would still be wanting somebody who is an adult
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like this is somewhat of a new thing that girls lose their virginity before the age of 18 and
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historically right wouldn't you agree to that it's not like women were being highly promiscuous even
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like 50 years ago i if you just had to guess that's like when did the sexual revolution happen
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i don't know what women do on i mean if you had to guess though do you think the women were more
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promiscuous or less promiscuous after the sexual revolution i think they're more promiscuous now i
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guess so then it's a fairly new thing for men to have or it's not a new thing that men want virgins
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but it's a fairly new thing that men are now encountering a dating market where most women are
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now not virgins when they graduate high school so it's probably not necessarily affiliated with
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being attracted to minors it's probably just part of their hardwiring that that's what they want right
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yes i got a question let's say there's a woman who's 30 who's a virgin and then there's a woman
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who's just she's she just turned 18 but she slept with 100 men if a man has a preference for dating
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the 30 year old virgin over dating the hold on wait let me think here yeah the 30 pervert yeah he prefers
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dating the 30 year old virgin over the now granted she is legally an adult so i wouldn't consider
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either to be p-word but yes which which one do you think like if if a man was inclined to date one or
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the other which one would be more p-word the 30 year old virgin or the 18 year old with 100 bodies
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40 i mean yeah it's legal to date an 18 year old but i still don't think a man that's 40 years old
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should be dating an 18 year old but you i think yeah i think he should go for the 30 year old virgin
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why not but look at all the what but look at all the sexual experience that she's had
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because you said it comes down you know sexual the virgin would suck in bed it's giving p-word
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but she's a 30 year old virgin whereas the 18 year old has had 100 sexual partners
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but your question is what that who should he which one is more p-wordy
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i mean both they're both they're both of age but i do think a 40 year old man should he be dating an
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18 year old i mean to each his own but i don't think yeah they should what's wrong with it
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i mean i don't would you do the do you have a daughter or yeah andrew has daughters yeah you
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have daughters so you have four daughters yeah you would be okay with your 18 year old daughter
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dating a 40 year old man well what would me being okay with it let's just assume i'm not okay with my
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daughter dating anybody because i'm a good dad right and that's all good fathers everywhere hate
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the fact that their daughters date anybody at any time for any reason but the thing is is i've been
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trying i've been thinking about this because i hear women say this a lot right and i only hear
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it exclusively from women that it's gross or in some way icky if a 40 year old man dates an 18 year
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old woman are you saying that an 18 year old woman is too stupid to date a 40 year old man um i don't
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think you are thinking clearly at 18. okay well then why can you vote shit i don't know so do you think
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that 18 year old women shouldn't be able to vote i think hang on remember the question answer to the
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actual question are you saying 18 year old women are smart enough to vote but too stupid to handle
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their personal affairs when it comes to a relationship i just want to make sure i get this clear
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i think uh voting i just don't i can't really say the two correlate because getting involved with
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a 40 year old man dating a man that has much more experience and could use that to his advantage in
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many ways it's different so that 40 year old man if he's has a lot more experience he's way smarter in
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this type of thing clearly he should be able to vote why should the 18 year old who's too stupid
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to date the 40 year old man be able to vote that's what i don't understand stupid doesn't equal
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inexperienced you can well then what's the problem with them having a relationship not stupid
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dealing yeah okay sure they so they they're so if that's true then what would be the problem with
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them dating well i want to go back to the question that i have for you and i i oh i i want to go back
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to the question i have for you you said you have four daughters do you think it would be a good idea
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for your 18 year old daughter to date a 40 year old man yes or no i would advise my 18 year old daughter
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not to date any man no with the that can't be a i'm saying if your 18 year old daughter how can it not
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be do you know any would include all 40 year old men i just i think so any would include all 20
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year old men 30 year old men 40 year old men 50 year old men and
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include all of them not just some of them but in this case we're talking about a 40 year old man
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and an 18 year old woman and i'm just curious if you think an 18 year old woman is so fucking stupid
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that she can't handle her personal affairs when it comes to dating why do we let them vote
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she never called them stupid yeah i never called them stupid and that's you i'm just how you're just
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just how you made a comparison nick did you do something i lost audio
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wait what did you change uh we're we're getting it we got it andrew here i'll just i don't know if
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you can understand sign language uh what was there what happened nick
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okay um that's fine so going around the table i'm just going to get everybody's take on this do
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you object to age gap relationships let's say the age let's put it at um 30 and 20
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do you do you object to that age gap a 20 year old and a 30 year old uh 30 year old man 20 year
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old woman yeah yeah that's fine you're fine with that okay wait we were talking about 18 and 40
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so can we stick to 18 and 40 we could i think that would be more fair it is bigger
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yeah let's let's but i think a 30 20 is a bit more likely to happen but let's stick to what we
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were talking about because i'm sure i'm fine with that okay 18 year old yeah yeah well if you don't
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mind i'd like to get back to this um before the audio cut out can you explain why it is again that
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you want 18 year old girls to be able to vote if they're too dumb to manage their personal affairs
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when it comes to like i said she never called them stupid or dumb that was your own words well
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then what would your objection be to it then i think that men that are 40 years old could manipulate
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you could do a lot of things and this must assume that this assumes that the 18 year olds must be
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stupid then no i'm sorry are you usually manipulated by people who are smarter than you you're just not
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going to be as experienced when you're 18 you're not going to be as experienced as you would be at
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40 years old yeah so if you're inexperienced as they get older so then this well this goes to my
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point hang on let us finish our exchange here real quick if you don't mind this so this goes back to
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my argument then if you're if you're too inexperienced in the world to even manage your
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own personal affairs when it comes to a relationship why would you be experienced enough to vote on the
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issues that would affect me in the nation you want to do you want to explain that to me i don't talk
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politics so i'm we're not talking politics we're talking about voting okay so i just think i just how
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your argument against uh virginity preferring a virgin as preferring someone with blue or brown eyes i just
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don't think your argument is as strong as you think it is i don't really see the comparison oh well i mean
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what a fantastic counter argument i don't think your argument's very good is not an argument that's
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just saying something when you're dealing with a man day in and day out that is a lot different than
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sending in a boat yeah yeah okay so i realize that everything on earth that we could possibly imagine
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that we make an analogy to are going to be different no matter what right so i can say for instance oh this
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tastes like chicken but it's not actually a chicken the reason that we're making the analogy that it
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tastes like chicken is so that you have some reference in your mind to what the thing tastes
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like we're not actually saying it's the thing itself so knowing that what i'm asking you here
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is if a man who is 40 wants to date a woman who's 18 and the woman who's 18 goes to you and says i love
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him i'm going to marry him because i love him are you saying that that shouldn't be allowed
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i mean people could do whatever they want do i think it's appropriate no
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yeah what's inappropriate about it the age gap is yeah what's inappropriate about it what like
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what's actually problematic about she loves him he loves her there's a big power struggle there
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well hang on there's a power struggle in every relationship regardless and more so with a 40
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and an 18 year old then someone that no that's not that's not true for every relationship one
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there's no way you could ever demonstrate that that's true you could say maybe the likelihood
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of it increases but so what the likelihood would also increase if he was a 21 year old millionaire
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and she was a 21 year old who worked at starbucks there would be a massive power imbalance would you say
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then that they shouldn't date well you're saying if they were to get married right would you
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are you married you are can you tell me the age you got married
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um i'd actually have to calculate it but uh but around around like were you in your 20s 30s
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yeah i was in i was in my 20s yeah late 20s late 20s okay so do you think that your
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relationship or your your marriage with your wife would have survived if you got together when you
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were 18 yeah okay well good i mean let us assume but let us assume for a second that i'm wrong and
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it wouldn't know okay so what what would that have to do with anything i just don't think you
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are gonna make the best relationship decisions at 18 years old that's my answer yeah no i get hang on i
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i get it i understand but this is kind of this has kind of become circular right so let's let's move
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back for a second you're saying that the reason for this is because there's a power dynamic problem
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she loves him he loves hers not enough because there's a power issue isn't isn't that what your
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objection is i just think that if you had a i feel like our conversation i could get a better
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uh i i could give you something better if you could give me what you would really truly honestly
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think about your daughter at 18 dating a 40 year old why would you need my position to know your
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position because i think you could why do you wait wait why do you need my position to know what you
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think about an issue i think because you would be able to understand where i'm coming from if you
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were okay okay so i'll give you my position again okay i don't want my daughter to date a man her age
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or older than her or younger than her that's just not gonna happen though yeah okay great but now
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you know my position so back to your position here uh i'm just curious is it is it the power dynamic
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issue is that what the problem is all things you have to choose sorry totally no i yeah i can say all
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things equal you have to choose between the 20 year old and the 40 year old for your daughter
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all things equal well it would i mean all things couldn't be equal it's an impossible and illogical
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hypothetical in a vacuum so if you were to just say on age alone by itself with no other contributing
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factors i would probably choose for the 20 year old okay but so what what does that have to do with
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anything i think now let's add in let's hang on now let's add in a single variable okay the uh 20 year
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old is a broke destitute idiot and the 40 year old is not then i might choose differently right
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because it's not in a vacuum so understanding that that is true i can still explain to you that i would
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probably have the preference for this to youth sure but so what that doesn't mean i see any in moral
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arrangement with a 40 year old dating an 18 year old that's what i don't understand and need
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demonstrated that's what i want to hear the actual problem with it is what i think how you see it
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brooklyn is kind of how i see it where it's just like what does an 18 and a 40 year old have in
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common at all you're not in the same walk of life at all um well i can tell you i can tell you what i
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think what i think the i can tell you what i think i can tell you what the distinction is he really
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wants to have sex with her a lot all the time and she wants his money that's what it is right
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that's i mean that's generally speaking what i think this arrangement would be is that she would go
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for him because she thinks he's sophisticated and has resources and he's with her because he really
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wants to fuck her and that's what i think essentially it would be and if he doesn't have the resources
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and she's just with a 40 year old man then what because she because she loves him you think that
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i'm going to tell my daughter that she can't marry somebody that she loves and who loves her back
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well you can't that's really weird really tell her anything at the end of the day she's going to
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make her that's right i really can't tell her anything at the end of the day so that's why we're
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just moving into why this is actually in some way some kind of problem what can you why is this
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actually a problem for me i just i think that we're thinking the same in the in the same way
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of just i don't think i have anything involved my mom's 40 i don't have really anything in common
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with my mom other than she's my mom because we're just at different walks of life and do i think it's
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the worst thing on a planet no because i they're both legal but wait hold on i do it no wait at all
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on this whole commonality on this commonality thing though really quick for anybody here do
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you think like it's high on the totem pole that like the major thing you're looking for when it
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comes to a partner is things in common yes like if you don't like i've never seen like a really
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attractive girl and been like ah she doesn't like the same music as me guess i'm not gonna fuck her
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ah she's never gonna play dungeons and dragons with me damn it but you know what i don't you
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know what you were you're super hot and i thought that you were gorgeous and the woman of my dreams
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till i found out you don't play dnd that that's a deal breaker i think people connect on having
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things in common exactly and i don't know how you necessarily connect at 18 with a 40 year old
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so i do yeah but but i mean whoa hang on hang on i'm just i'm just really curious right
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why wouldn't there be tons of overlap and connection so for instance name a connection
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you would have with a 21 year old that you couldn't have with a 40 year old i'd like to know
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a single one um well most 40 year olds i would feel like have a wife and kids okay okay yeah but
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so i mean that's not necessarily hang on hang on this one doesn't have a wife and kids
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so can you name a single connection you can have with a 21 year old that you can't have with a 40 year
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old go ahead the floor is open name one a 20 year high school reunion a what that's about it or like
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you know like a high school reunion i haven't had one yet i'm 21 that's a connection i'm just trying
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to like you know but i guess so you think that would be a basis for disqualifying do you think
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yeah can you give me a single emotional or or interest connection that you can have with a 21
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year old man you can't have with a 40 years i have a lot more experience and knowledge than i do
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at 20 years old right now i would say you're not answering the same age or stage of life
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exactly that's what i just said yeah complaining about college classes i'll just ask you the same
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question perhaps you'll answer going out can you name a single emotional connection or interest
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connection that you can have with a 21 year old man you can't have with a 40 year old man i'd
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actually like to know the answer to the question have form an emotional connection by being in the
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same stage of life you're experiencing adulthood for the first time then you can also form emotional
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connections uh to the opposite of that you can form emotional connections with people who are
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outside of your experiences you've heard perhaps opposites attract you've heard perhaps that people
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enjoy traits and other people that they themselves don't have there's all sorts of these types of
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emotional yeah so so i'm just asking specifically then what is that thing that emotional connection
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you're talking about what specifically there could you have with a 21 year old you couldn't have
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with a 40 year old neither one of your guys's brain is fully developed when you're 18 and 21 when
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you're 40 you're a full grown man your brain is developed you've already no your brain is fully
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developed at 18 i don't know what you're talking about your brain it's not actually what you've done
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is you've taken one study which is talking about the prefrontal cortex and you've misread it
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like most people do oh really how many studies is it i couldn't tell you sorry i didn't write it
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down yeah i know and can you name the study no i can't wait no you can't name it so the thing is
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is like you're talking about the prefrontal cortex and the thing is the prefrontal cortex begins to
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degrade after the age 26 people forget that part it degrades so if it degrades then wouldn't that
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mean if you're a 40 year old man that you have a degraded prefrontal cortex whereas a 25 year old
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woman would be have a prefrontal cortex in her prime so wouldn't that make you equal don't
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things start to degrade after they've reached like their prime right so if it reaches its prime and
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it begins to degrade but let's let's uh let's take a look at this attribute right so you can have a
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fully developed prefrontal cortex even before the age of 26 you can have that it's not it's not even a
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problem to have and you can have such minute differences what if it only works at a half a percent
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better or a quarter of a quarter of a quarter of half a percent that's why you can't extrapolate
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from studies like this you can't take this and extrapolate that we can only consider you an adult
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at 26 because everybody's mind develops differently so the question becomes this and by the way if that's
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the case wouldn't only 26 year old women be able to vote wouldn't only 26 year old women be able to
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buy cars shouldn't only 26 year old women be able to go out and enter into contracts with other people
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i don't think anyone's saying that it should be illegal to date someone that's 40 years old
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right okay great then let's get back to this then what emotional connection can you only have with a
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person in your age bracket you couldn't have an age bracket of person who's 20 years older than you
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i think i already stated my answer to that which was what to this idea of commonality
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couldn't you also argue though that there might be too much commonality between two 20 year olds
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because they're both maybe emotionally immature but if you had somebody younger girl they might
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be a little bit more uh able to be like okay she's acting like this but he has more emotional maturity
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because he has that experience that you guys are talking about so he'd be able to be in a way
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more nurturing or at least more aware of how to deal with her
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i think when you're with somebody that's your age you're getting to learn and figure it out
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together i have a question mistakes that you can learn so so i have a question for you do you think
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that all older women are super mature and always conduct themselves properly in relationships and all
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younger women are just these like chaotic can't conduct themselves in a relationship is that your
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position no because i can tell you from experience i've had a lot of experience dating women in
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their 30s and 40s and they're just as if not more troublesome than women in their 20s from my own
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personal experience my own anecdotal experience in fact women we've had on the show who tend to be in
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their 30s and 40s post-show create more issues for us by fucking trying to do reputation destruction
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i'm dealing with it right now 40 year old women are the ones that are like trying to do reputation
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destruction doing malicious shit than like some 20 year old chick or whatever she got owned in an
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argument i mean i think are these single women for the most part how's that how's that relevant
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bitterness so okay so they get more bitter as time goes on so they're less they would be less good
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matches for a partnership because they're bitter yeah i would think so in general but okay so then
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say the same thing about men and that's from my experience right but you're arguing for younger
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women they are also embittered by life and they're jaded and they're looking for something that's easier
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okay sure let's assume let's assume that's true are are they still selecting for what would be best for
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them yeah but i think it's kind of selfish to do something for your own self-interest at somebody
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else's disadvantage well that's really weird because uh if that's the case and you've kind
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of destroyed your own argument because you're saying like the phone that you should yeah if
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you're saying you shouldn't do this thing x based out of your own self-interest in this particular case
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uh wouldn't you be telling any of these women to operate against their own self-interest
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by telling them not to date an older man yeah if they wanted to date an older man and this older man
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had resources could take care of them and they loved them well i don't understand how it's not
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in their best interest to marry him i mean if all those things are true and they're actually like
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a good genuine guy sure then that would be in their best interest but i think why is it a problem
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because i think you're making up a scenario that's not representative of reality
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thanks what is well wait what's representative of reality that a lot of times when older men go for
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younger women it is because they're looking for someone easier and so why are the younger women
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going for them because they are naive and they don't have real world experience they're going
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through a transitionary stage in their life where they are leaving their home and they don't know
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how to make sense of the world so they have no accountability
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you could argue that okay so since they have no accountability why can they vote
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i mean that's another discussion no i think it's a relevant discussion because we're either going to
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treat 18 year olds as adults who can make their own decisions or we're not no because an 18 year
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old could be very book smart but that doesn't ensure that she knows how to deal with romantic
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relationships romantic relationships and being book smart is different that's why they say there's
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book martin street smart you can't just put it all in one box why should we assume that she can
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manage any relationship in any age bracket she could be smart enough in the books got all straight
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days and knows exactly what she yeah no i get it geography and history and she's great when it
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comes to politics but this would still beg the question of asking this this single singular question
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of if she can't manage a relationship why should she get in any relationship you're bringing up why
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should she be able to vote if she can't be in a relationship but i know what i'm saying is that
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if the issue is because you're bringing up voting but voting has nothing to do with dealing with the
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issue is experience and knowledge and she can she can't manage her own affairs because she can't be
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held accountable because she's too young then why are we treating her like an adult that's the question
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i do want to i don't think there's an answer there i do want to get back really quick to the
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commonality thing so you guys were saying well what does a 20 year old 30 year old or 20 40 year old
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whatever it is they don't have anything in common can you just articulate to me what men and women
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around the same age have in common or i'll even grant you what do men and women have in common
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i think it's all individually um yeah but what what is something that you would have in common with
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somebody that would be you have something so in common that you're going to choose with to be with
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them on that basis alone maybe the way they view things in life
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like values yeah like i feel like okay so couldn't couldn't an 18 year old have the same values
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as a 28 year old they could but they could have different experiences leading up to that
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okay graduating college experience seeing like the bars anything like yeah i got like your life okay let
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me ask you a question so let's let's say you're 30 you're a 30 year old man and you don't drink you
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don't party you never did maybe you went to a bar once and you want a partner who doesn't drink
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doesn't party doesn't doesn't go out to bars and clubs do you have more in common with a 20 year old
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who's never gone out to bars and never drank or with a 30 year old who goes to raves goes to music
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festivals parties at every weekend and is basically a borderline alcoholic who would be a better partner
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for who who has more in common with who are we doing the 18 and 40 now or 20 we can any it doesn't
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really matter i'm just giving you it's still an age gap no i see what you're saying i do agree like i
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said i don't think it's wrong it's obviously not illegal i just no which but answer the question
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though so which one do you have more and has more in common obviously the two that have the most in
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common oh so there is a there is a commonality the ones that don't drink yeah but i think the issue
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is more so how big the age gap is it's like the older you get i feel like it's more acceptable
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than i mean an 18 year old is even though you're legally an adult could we all agree that you've we
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were kids at 18 right yeah i felt like you say that i could feel like i was an adult looking back
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no i can't i can't agree to that no i can't agree that um that i was a kid at uh at 18 um no
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child like a kid a kid a kid would allude to somebody who is not an adult uh no i would say
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it was an adult at 18 or say all of you were adults at 18 i think you're trying to infantilize
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women because you want to make men out to be predatory but you can't make arguments for how
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they're being predatory i think regardless if the woman is 40 yeah so what this is what this is is
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this is typified loading of language and you see this from feminist circles all the time wouldn't
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you consider yourself a kid at 18 no and no i wouldn't consider any of you to be kids at 18
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consider you to be adults at 18 i'm not going to infantilize you so that you can say that men
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who want to date younger women are predatory i would need an actual argument for why they were
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predatory and so far i haven't heard one i think what he's trying to get at is why do men all of
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sudden become like more nefarious with age like i've heard girls talk about guys and awful things
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that guys will do and they're usually like college age guys so to that point like wouldn't a man who's
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more mature more experienced wouldn't he actually possibly be less nefarious than a 21 year old 20
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year old that would be nice if that were the truth but a lot isn't that i think that's what
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it's going to is like your world like the world view that you think uh age as it gets as a man is
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older he becomes like more tactic and or like calculating and he's like oh here's this 18 year
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old maybe he just got a divorce because women initiate most divorces he's now divorced and he wants to
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maybe still have kids still uh have a different life so he's gonna have to have a younger woman
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right would that be somebody who's like being calculated in a nefarious way or someone who's
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just saying yeah i want to still have a family i want my wife to be younger that wouldn't be like
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calculated in a bad way that would be calculating in a way that is that's what he wants right you could
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find a young woman that's still fertile and not go for an 18 year old 20 versus 30 is more acceptable
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yeah even well i think we're just using the extreme end of the spectrum like a 40 year old
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and an 18 year old but i think the point that well they're going to maybe we can tie it together a
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different way um so are you guys on the from my perspective the right side of the table in the
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green are you okay with sex work yes okay so what if a 40 year old woman has sex with an 18 year old
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man who pays her is that okay i feel the same way it's not okay for them to do i feel like either way
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it could be predatorial yeah but is it okay george donated two hundred dollars so if the 40 year old
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has an 18 year old daughter and is hip to her age's culture having been extensively involved in her life
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and her friends is he unqualified to date younger based on commonality
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uh having been extensively involved in her life and friends he's just saying if a 40 year old man
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has tons in common with an 18 year old why would it he's just making the same same claim like why
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would that be a problem if they have a bunch of in common and they love each other back so back to
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andrew's thing he's asking a 40 year old s worker with 18 year old who male who's paying for it
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paying for it paying for it yeah they're paying for it yeah that changes things i thought yeah yeah is
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that okay if he's paying for it why well i don't understand what's the difference
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so what would be the difference then if a 40 year old just wanted to have sex for free
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i would just personally if i had an 18 year old son and he was messing with a four-year-old woman i
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i don't see that going over unless he was paying for it i i don't know if this is going to get
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anywhere are we on no no i think it's getting somewhere it's getting to a great place so what
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if he's paying for it is it okay then so if he goes hey mom i just plowed a hooker she's 40 i gave her
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some money that's okay in your world view just not if she does it for free well dating versus
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just having a one night stand basically are two different scenarios oh so as long as 40 year old
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men are just fucking 18 year old women it's fine i think it's more p word hang on hang on i just want
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to make sure i just want to make sure let me just talk to them for a second i just want to make
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sure i get this right as long as 40 year old men are just fucking 18 year old women it's fine
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just not having relationship well the 18 year old woman she does get to choose what she does with
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her body i wouldn't accept who to date with it i wouldn't recommend that but if she wants to make
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her her money because maybe she has rent to pay whatever whatever the case may be she got to make
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means meet that's different than just dating a man wait wait wait so let me get this right
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if the roles are reversed a 40 year old man only wants to hump 18 year old women
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why would that be a problem if you're saying that a woman can hump 18 year old men as long as
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the 18 year old pays her for it i feel the same no matter what you feel the same what you just said
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it was perfectly acceptable reversed in the same situation i feel the same way i feel like women
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can be predators too yeah yeah so so then you think that sex workers should not be allowed to
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have sex with 18 year olds they can't they can't do scenes with them they can't do any of those types
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of things right that would be bad wouldn't it i wouldn't personally agree to it but because they're
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of age to make their own decisions then they can choose to do that but i wouldn't say i would recommend
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that or that that's personally right but they make their own decisions if they're paying for it and
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that's their source of income okay so so what you're saying is is that inside the porn industry
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you would say it's bad for a 40 year old to do an adult scene with an 18 year old
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that that's like worse than if it was just a 30 year old doing a scene with a 40 year old
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yes it's worse it's worse yeah okay and it's worse because the 18 year old can't make these
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decisions no i believe i just said they're old enough to make their own decisions okay but by
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this logic wouldn't you say then that 18 year old shouldn't be involved in sex work at all
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i wouldn't recommend someone so young getting into sex work but i also can understand that
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they're of age to make their own decisions so everyone has different circumstances in life you
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know you could have a full ride scholarship to school other women don't get that privilege
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not saying that all sex workers have to do sex work but i am no i'm in no position to judge young
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women okay okay that's fine so then so then we can just agree then that there's nothing actually
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immoral with an 18 year old dating a 40 year old right well you're bringing up sex work dating is
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different than sex work why would it be why would it be okay for them to do to to have a physical
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relationship with each other uh as long as there was money involved that's really weird
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because that is a job and one is dating yeah what well i don't understand why would it why would
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you paying somehow change the dynamic of this power dynamic which is what you're against right it's
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still massive power dynamic issue isn't it i think we all agree that it's not immoral it just could be
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inappropriate which is a it's just an opinion more than it is well what does inappropriate mean
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if like what does that mean i i think different things are inappropriate probably than brooklyn and
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lily do like what i mean do you want me to say things i think are inappropriate like yeah it gives
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them the ick yeah i just want to know i just want to hear that it gives you the ick there's nothing
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immoral about it just it's just icky you just think it's icky i just think that different things
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are inappropriate than other things that i'm sure other people find inappropriate things i might
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find inappropriate other people might not okay uh so i think just for the sake of time i do have
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to move things on a little bit i didn't really get an answer though i'll come back to this quick
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we were talking about commonality i still haven't really heard what men and women have in common
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what i'm opening this up well you were making the i think you were making or
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well men and women in general or men and women as in 18 and 40 years what would be something that
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a man and a man and a woman could have in common that would be sufficient enough for them to
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want to date simply by virtue of having a commonality maybe their religion yeah religion
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okay but what like within the context of age so we have something in common because
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we're about the same age so a 70 year old and a 20 year old could have religion in common oh i think
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there's a higher chance of maybe both people not having kids at a younger age or a marriage and it's
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some people would be very important to them as it is to me for i i wouldn't be with a man that
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has a child because i want it to be our both let's assume this hypothetical 30 year old doesn't have
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kids and neither does the 20 year old it really is so situational yeah well but i but you said like
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okay if it has to do with age what do they have because you brought up they graduated well they
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recently graduated at the same time has anybody ever dated somebody oh we graduated at the same
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time let's fuck has that ever happened probably really because that's that's not because i find
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her physically attractive i think it's all of it it's you find wow she graduated more attractive
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the more you have in common with them but okay why don't you think life stage is a big thing to have
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in common like you can't have it in common right but if that was the hold on if that was the
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attraction trigger then all high school students would be attracted to all high school students
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which clearly isn't the case right so it's clear to me that commonality on its own is not hold on
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is not sufficient enough to create attraction between two people i don't think any one thing is
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i think the stage in life is more sufficient for like securing a bond but also do you think that
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most high schoolers don't date other high schoolers that's not what i'm arguing of course high
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schoolers date other high schoolers like i think it seems pretty normal that people date within yeah
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no most most people date most people date around their age i would say but this idea that you are
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precluded from finding somebody outside like if you're precluded from finding somebody who's uh 10 years
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your senior you can't find them attractive because they're not your your ages i don't think anyone's
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putting like a hard stop on it i think most people or a lot of women just have the experience with older
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men where it is a little bit more predatory or uncomfortable exactly i don't even think it's
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predatory one direction it's only predatory when men do it right no no she said no i didn't say that
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but yeah you said when men i said that most women go through that experience go through what
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experience dealing with predatory men that are attracted to you when you're 21 or younger okay
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well let's talk about adult relationships so find 18 and up women have the experience of being adults
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at 18 with men who are 30 being attracted to them and oftentimes they turn out to be predatory
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how is it but why how is it predatory just a lot of men are they just are if it wasn't illegal why
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shouldn't i date a 16 year old i'm only 21 not even well we're talking about adults here so
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but like you're the one who's making it about underage yeah you can make you can make the you
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can make the same argument the same exact way we'd love i look i'd be happy to get into it so would
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brian but there are restrictions to the stream that we can't do anything about so keep it above
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the 18 mark if you don't do you think a car salesman is gonna have an easier time selling to
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somebody that's 40 or somebody that's 18 i'm getting somebody to make a bad decision i'm not
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an expert in i think that they would have a lot easier time selling to somebody who's 18
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i'm not why uh well because i think that somebody who's 18 probably doesn't have the requisite
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experience that a 40 year old would have when selecting a car i think that's kind of my point
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oh that's your point so then you're saying that 18 year olds should not be able to buy cars
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no no wait wait hang on why not why shouldn't 18 year olds be able to buy cars i think they should
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still be able to buy cars but i think we can also acknowledge wait wait wait what i thought
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why whoa whoa whoa but the salesman's predatory against 18 year olds because he can even more
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easily sell him a car those two things can still be true wait wait what those two things can still
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be true well okay yeah okay so those two things are still can still be true i agree so he's he's
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predatory because he's selling her a car and she is does not have the requisite experience of a 40 year
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old to buy that car so it's going to be easier for him right yes so then why would you let 18 year
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old buy cars just because an 18 year old let her answer i think i'm just trying to acknowledge
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sorry i'm just trying to acknowledge that you can take advantage of people that are inexperienced yeah
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but i want you to acknowledge that if you if you agree that this is something which is happening
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that 18 year olds are getting taken advantage of in this situation or in any other situation
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i'm sorry but we didn't make the rules yeah i know i'm not talking hang on just let's i'm talking
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to her why do you let them do this stuff if you think that everybody is being predatory towards them
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because they're so stupid and inexperienced that they can't make good decisions like 40 year olds that's
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what i don't get i guess at some point you have to allow people to make their own decisions but yeah
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that's right and what point do we allow people to make their own decisions hang on what point do
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we allow people to make their own decisions we allow it at 18 that's right we allow it at 18 so
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i guess at 18 they can make their own decision to date a 40 year old man right and that still
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doesn't negate the fact that people can be predatory towards them and it doesn't negate the fact
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that they should be allowed in all conditions to date a 40 year old man if they would like to
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be allowed to aren't you though isn't that weird that you think that they should be allowed to
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even though you think that it's predatory that's really strange like i would say my logical brain
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does this it goes wait if there's some industry which is super predatory towards a single group
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then i would try to get rid of that industry wouldn't you try to get rid of the doesn't that
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make more sense i mean in some cases i would yeah i probably would agree for certain industries but
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yeah but just not with used car salesmen they're allowed to sell cars to 18 year olds
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yeah appliance salesmen what about houses can 18 year olds buy houses wouldn't wouldn't a real
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estate agent be more easily convincing towards an 18 year old as well
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maybe maybe yeah i mean maybe i i mean i guess i guess though we just gotta let those 18 year olds
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at some point we just gotta let them spread their wings and fly are you gonna stop advising your
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children when they turn 18 no are you gonna stop trying like are you just gonna stop trying to
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direct them in the right direction and help them make better decisions no okay that's all we're
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talking about we're not saying you should be able to do what are you talking what the what the fuck is
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this i agree i agree i agree with her that's what that means see and that's something that you
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wouldn't know because you're a lot older uh yeah exactly can't date a girl if you don't know what her
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little uh her little you can't date her if you don't know what but it could get like exhausting
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having to explain lingo and just crazy stuff okay so hold on okay so anyway but uh but i just want
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to finish this i'll wrap it real quick right i just want to make sure that i get this right
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that 18 year olds are out there being preyed on every day by hyper predatory industries and people
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but you think that they should be in order to gain experience right
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yes okay thank you and it's not going to stop me from that means that 40 year old men who are out
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there being predatory that's good for 18 year old women because that's how they gain experience i
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appreciate that very much okay i still haven't heard anything on the commonality thing that's
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particularly convincing um i guess for those of you who brought up the i think it was you who brought
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up the commonality thing i have one what just one thing so have you ever known someone who you have
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a lot in common with but you're not attracted to them yes okay so clearly maybe you've met somebody
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who you have the most in common with but you didn't date them you're not attracted to them
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so it's clear to me that commonality is not really an attraction trigger in people so it's not about
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having something in common it's about what you find attractive um so i guess do you guys think that
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having things in common is a primary attraction trigger i think it should be you think it should
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be is it for me i think for a lot of people it's not but i i think it'd be good for people to try to
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transcend their superficial attractions okay that would be good wouldn't it but and i think i think
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people are capable of doing that let me ask you a question so my husband he's really good at like
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a lot of things with the house and he's very handy and he could do i have no none of that experience
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and nor do i care to do any of it so that wouldn't be a commonality or me trying to transcend so i can
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have more commonality with him right like what would be the point of me trying to like go out there
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or build the tree house with a kid for the kids or go do stuff in his garage like i mean maybe your
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commonality is something you don't have anything in common with your husband i mean some stuff but
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some of the stuff that's now commonality with things like he introduced me to and why did you
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like him in the first place i was attracted to him and so you just dated him purely on physical
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attraction physical attraction he had a lot of charisma he made me laugh i mean those were all
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attraction triggers and at our first date though i wasn't like oh he doesn't like reading books
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that's so why do you think he started dating you i'm assuming to attraction he wasn't really
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commonality huh maybe that's your commonality yeah but both care about looks that's what most people
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look for is like they're looking your first attraction is going to be a physical attraction
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and there can be things that develop that are commonalities but i think if that's your sole
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reason to get with somebody because oh we both like this sport i mean that's going to be
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pretty mundane down the road that all you guys have is like that common trait like if you just have
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one sport that's probably going to get pretty boring but yeah but i'm saying in general just trying
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to match against commonalities i think is like here let me ask a question so let's say there's
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some guy out there who has the most in common with you like out of every single person in the world
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most in common with you you also brought up commonality most in common with you he's not
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attractive at all physically just not your physical type at all are you going to date him if my boyfriend
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transformed into that person yes absolutely let's assume you're single in this scenario
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yeah you're not he's i don't know what your opposite of your type is he's not it yeah you
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you date him yeah you date a guy who you were like physically repulsed by yes so long as he likes the
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same movies and books as you it's like sharing a worldview you don't think you share a worldview with
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your husband i think he's actually uh really aided and like shifting my worldview okay i had a really
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but i think that's an important part of a relationship and how you bond is by adopting a
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similar worldview but i mean that took i mean we've been together 16 years so it's not like he changed
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my worldview year one but here i do i do got to move it on we we did shift gears there from the whole
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men desiring virgins to the age gap conversation why don't we spend at least three more minutes
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quickly because we we stuck on the age gap thing for quite a bit i'm still confused by the men who
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want virgin women are p words i'm still confused there i don't think we really got a good solid
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answer i just i mean my opinion is my opinion it doesn't have to be anybody else's i just think
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it's alarming when a man who is not a virgin himself only wants to date virgins that's
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but you said it's p word i think there's a correlation there's a correlation so does that
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mean that because you want to push gift i should automatically assume you're a gold digger i don't
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think you are but you do want to push gift which gold diggers would probably also want to push gift
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but that does not logically make you like a gold digger so a man who might have a little bit of
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that digger in me i'm not gonna lie okay i'm not gonna sit up here and i'm not gonna sit up here and
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say like and money's not everything to me but i would like my man to be well off i'm gonna have a
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child with him okay i guess i'll bring it back to the bald coochie thing then um are women who aren't
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attracted to balding men if they're if a woman is not attracted to a man who's balding
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is she a p word wait i'm sorry say it again is a woman who is not attracted to a man who
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is balding is she a p word because typically only adult men tend to be uh balding or bald
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no but i would think maybe if she's not attracted well how old is this man
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because i'm gonna say only i would say it's a little alarming if she's only how about let me
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reframe it she's only attracted to men with a full head of hair is she a p word okay
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oh wait oh it's i don't really note the top of your head is the same as a man saying i don't
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want to have sex with a woman who doesn't clean up down there so is your argument that because this
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certain condition is present when you're a child basically that because that condition is present
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when you're a child therefore you're a pedophile if you also desire that condition in adulthood
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no i don't think that it's i don't i'm talking only strictly about the men that are just so
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absolutely fixated on the idea of a virgin it's a it's a difference like oh i prefer virgin but i
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will date other women but there's some men that are are commenting and saying that they would only
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and only see value in women that are virgins yeah but i mean so what like that's why that's the part i
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don't get is so what i guess it's not for you to get then it's and it does and that's okay
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yeah yeah i just i really don't understand if a man is only desirous of a virgin and that's all
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that he desires who gives a shit i mean not you that's and that's it gives the ick it gives the
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ick anyways you guys have been just waiting for us to say like if i want to get out of a conversation
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do i just say ick ick yeah i know i know i know people i know when people are pressed i know this
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possibly the first time in your entire life you've been pressed on a position it's very uncomfortable
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but uh it doesn't have to be you can just you know engage in the position that you espouse and
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then back it up with logic and reason and arguments things but we can just do emotions right so okay
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it doesn't give me the ick and it gives you the ick does that does that make you feel better we just do
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that it gives you the ick doesn't give me the it okay yeah whatever okay it is interesting to me just
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i guess final thought on this that a lot of men's preferences standards and boundaries
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tend to end up being framed in this it always ends up being pathologized in some sort of way
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if a man has a preference standard or boundary it's you're you're insecure you're it goes even beyond
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just that to beyond just shaming to pathologizing criminalizing you know the p word stuff uh if he
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prefers a younger adult woman or if he prefers bear coochie bald coochie excuse me um prefers a
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virgin even though the virgin so do you you prefer bald coochie yeah so it is interesting though like
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you know insecure uh what are some of the other uh shaming language that tends to be used with
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men's preferences insecure misogynist blah blah whatever anyways uh let's do three more it's okay
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anyway brian as long as you pay for it it's fine yeah oh and on that note shout out to my waxer
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self-care by ash yo shout out ash what's up i'm gonna hit you up okay wait so hold on la i'm sorry
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last thing last thing is it okay for a woman at 18 to start doing only fans
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that's that's her business not mine but you you don't take you don't have any qualms or objections
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to it nope so you no objections to an 18 year old woman doing sex work but objections to an 18 year
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old woman for example dating a 35 year old man who's desirous of a long-term monogamous relationship
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with her and who's otherwise a healthy individual healthy would have a healthy relationship with her
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and uh would yeah i just my stance on only fans i don't have one myself but i'm all for it because
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i think it's an ethical way to get porn to wait to get cool yeah well i don't i don't want to
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or watch porn okay so i think it's an ethical i'm not gonna linger on the of stuff for long um let's
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just pull up the next three clips and i'll i'll get into other people's notes ahead nick
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go ahead to normalize making men work for sex why are you guys so eager to give up your goji
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for what it's up to you to create that boundary of i'm not gonna sleep with this man right away
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it's literally all in your hands you have all the power you have the portal of life between your legs
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so act like it stop just giving it up because someone gave you a little bit of attention
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a little compliment and a little liquor do better do want better for yourself let's normalize
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so i played this clip right after the previous one the one where you made criticisms over men
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wanting virgins i'm just confused here so on one hand you're recommending women withhold sex wait to
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have sex abstain be celibate you're celibate yourself at least by your own admission how it seems a
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like how do you reconcile on one hand thinking men are p words for desiring chaste sexually pure women
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whether that means virgin or low body count but also so you're recommending women hold off on having
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sex with men but on the same hand it's wrong for men to desire precisely that in women can you
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reconcile that for me yeah that's really really weird
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i just think uh most men not all but i would say most men are usually undeserving
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of sex from yeah so we'll just we'll just grant that for a second right we'll just grant that yes
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you think that most men are undeserving of sex but what we're asking is if you're recommending
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that women stay chaste that they're not giving up uh sex to men then their body counts necessarily
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going to be lower so if that is a desire that men have to have these women with lower body counts
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why would you then say that they're akin to you know pdf files because they desire the traits that
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you're advocating women have i'm uh preaching about women holding out because i think if women do
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better than it forces men to do better well wait hold on you're not really addressing the thing so
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okay let's say a woman is a virgin okay what do is your advice steadfast if she's a virgin should
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should she can also wait should she also wait well you said that women shouldn't just be giving out
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the coochie right you said women should hold that shit like how long you are you gonna wait
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when the next guy comes along you said you've been celibate for two years right yeah i don't have
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it's not a certain amount of date rule or anything i just think um when someone shows up for you and
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you can see their um they prove themselves to their actions is when that'd be a more appropriate
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time to have sex rather than oh hey i just met you i know nothing about you
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yeah that makes so this this actually makes sense um so just to just to clarify this uh you're you're
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saying that women and their chastity their sexuality is really valuable
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right that's a valuable thing that they hold right yes but it's not the only value they hold
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i'm not saying it is and i'm not saying you're saying it is i'm not saying you're saying that that's
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the only value they hold i'm just saying you do agree that it's a very valuable thing right yes
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i mean i i see why men would think the same thing but i think for i'm telling women to do it
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for themselves not for yeah no i get that your motivation is because you think that it's empowering
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to women to withhold sex until it's with a partner who's worthy of sex right correct but that
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necessarily is going to mean that those women have a higher status than other women because they give
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out sex far less right that women that hold off have higher status than women that don't is what
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you're saying yeah yeah as far as valuable goes as far as value i don't i don't agree with that i don't
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look at well then why wouldn't you recommend that women just fuck everybody that they see i don't i
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don't get it they might there must be some value here in not doing that i think the consistency
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between not wanting younger women to date older men and not wanting women to hang on we're not they
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were way off of the we're way off the age gap here i know we started this by by saying how the two
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things seemed like contradictory and i'm saying i think the consistency is that it's advising women
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against allowing themselves to be used by men yeah no i agree i'm granting that
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this is true that basically by doing this right you become a more valuable woman i don't think
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that's why well then why wouldn't you recommend that women don't do this because i think when you
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allow people to use you it is a sign of low self-esteem and it can right and so would you
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would you say that that makes you less valuable or more valuable i don't think it has anything to
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do with value it's not so you don't think the opposite sex sees any value in this even though
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you yourself seem to see value in this for other in other words if a woman is promiscuous
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do you think that's better if she's not promiscuous i think it's better if somebody
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is not promiscuous yes then men think the same thing that doesn't mean i think somebody is more
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valuable as a person because they yeah but i mean the reason i'm using the word value
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so that you understand and equating these two things uh and we can remove the word if it makes
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you more comfortable value it's just because i think that men see a value in less promiscuous
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women you also seem to see a value in less promiscuous women right are you speaking no i
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don't see like a more value in them okay well then i'm sorry i just want to get this right
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do you think women should be less promiscuous or more promiscuous should be less promiscuous
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okay so there must be some value in being less promiscuous i think the hang on let her answer
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please i think we're using value in two different ways okay how would you use it
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i guess one is like materializing something into worth better or worse like hierarchy putting
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something on a hierarchy of who is worth more than another person and value in terms of like
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inherent value i don't know that's just restating value so you're just saying value is value that's
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not telling me what value is i think so what so so hang on let her let her answer please so what
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is so what is value i already said the value so there's there's two ways to define it and the
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first way would be kind of assigning it like this material value and you're saying that somebody is
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worth more or less yeah okay so what's the second way to define it
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i don't know i don't have a good answer right now well i think we're getting stuck here so i think
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you're trying to say well we shouldn't view humans as more or less valuable but we're talking from a
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dating lens from a dating context so in terms of your value as a human being we're all equal in value
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but when it comes to for example i would assume you would value one person over the other when it
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comes to who you choose to date otherwise you would make no distinction in choosing one person
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over the other if they were both of equal perceived value in terms of their dating market value does
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that make sense sure yeah so for example i don't know if you like men who are tall who have their shit
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together who have a job who are employed gainfully employed as compared to a guy who you're not
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physically attracted to doesn't have a shit together lives in his mother's basement you would probably
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value that other guy uh the guy number one over guy number two when making a determination as to
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who you would uh partner with sure yeah and that that one would be of more value
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perhaps you don't like the framing of it yeah i think it's probably more of that what's that
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but it's probably more of that i don't like the framing of it okay the implication that one person
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let me ask you a question would you rather how tall you five seven does height matter at all to you
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no nothing okay would you rather date a man who's six foot or five foot i don't care you don't care
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i don't care really i don't how you're currently in a relationship correct how tall is your boyfriend
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five eight he's five eight okay so you wouldn't rather date a man with a hunchback in a peg leg or
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a man who didn't have a hunchback in a peg leg this is a fucking pirate i don't know she likes pirates
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she might i mean i mean honestly would you prefer that if the man if he looked like quasimodo and he
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had like kind of down syndrome and he had a big hump on his back and he had a peg leg would you prefer
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to date him or all things equal they have the same attributes him and a guy too but guy too just look
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normal which one would you prefer yeah i can see it i would date the other one wait hold on yeah sure
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wait so okay i i'm not gonna actually even i'm not gonna allow grant this you'd rather date a five
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foot guy over a six foot guy all else being equal why i won't even i won't even you say that but so
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let me ask you a question do you think you want do you want children yeah you want kids right do you
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think it's advantageous in life to be tall does it confer benefits sure does it confer benefits to be
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physically attractive like ideally wouldn't your children be better situated to maneuver through
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life if they were really physically attractive sure okay so just on that basis of alone let's say
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you don't even you don't give a fuck at all in terms of sexual desire or physical attractiveness you
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don't actually care right but intellectually in your head if i partner with somebody who's tall
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and physically attractive my offspring my children have a better chance of themselves being physically
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attractive and tall and that would confer onto them certain benefits throughout the course of their
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life i want to set up my children as best as i possibly can would you not assuming all else being
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equal if the choice was between a five foot guy and a six foot guy you wouldn't pick the six foot guy
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just purely on the basis that you would be more likely to have tall children yeah i think if i had a son
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and i chose the five foot tall dude he'd be very upset to find out about my decision so yeah i would
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pick the six foot tall person okay so you would then prefer to date the six foot guy no no now that
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i've walked you through this scenario if i have a choice if i have yeah let's assume you had a choice
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yeah sure okay all right not sure how convincing that was to you let me read a couple chats then we got
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to get back into a couple things uh gabe's world can i have you read ladies sure single father of two
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boys army veteran of 14 years uh 11b can you ask the ladies to rate my photo on ig
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uh so the threshold i don't even think we have that as an option anymore i'm pretty sure
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let me just double check i don't think we have we don't have instagram review
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the threshold for that would have been 400 but we're not going to do it for uh but brian he's an
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infantryman but brian he's an infantryman we gotta do it we gotta do it at the appropriate
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threshold not really something we can uh offer here but uh yeah not i just outright will just
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say no we can't do uh instagram reviews can you read this one sure brian you're in prison your prison
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daddy named tiny gives you a choice a tattoo that says property of tiny or a tramp stamp that says
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lucky you you will face harassment in the cell block uh what what's going on definitely property of
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tiny right because then at least you're somebody's property and then lucky me's like shoot your shot
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bad i'm asking for a unit change i'm moving units i'm i'm gonna actually i'm gonna just um
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go into protective custody i don't know i don't know i'm going in the hole going in the hole yeah
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can you read this one they aren't requiring virgins they're saying the lower the body count a woman
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has better suited she is for long-term relationship marriage also man's body count isn't the same as
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women's body count we're not equal hey desert joe thank you for the uh the uh stream labs don't
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appreciate it man thank you guys appreciate it um were there any final thoughts on that video andrew
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or shall we move things along oh you had something what you got what you got for us it wasn't about
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it wasn't about if a woman holds more value i'm just telling women to protect themselves
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yeah i guess i think me and andrew's confusion here was on one hand you're like okay dudes who
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like really want virgin women are p words but also ladies don't have sex protect yourself
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yeah right we were just saying an entailment so it's just so you see i'll try to like kind of
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break this down a little better for for our position here is um i understand where brian's going he's
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just saying if you're if you're advising women to and i understand your position here is this thing
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that you have called sex is something which if it's withheld can be super advantageous to women
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right if women withhold sex it can be very advantageous to them to do that correct okay but
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kind of necessarily if they're withholding sex they're probably going to have less sexual partners
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right yes okay so we're saying that men also value that and you value that i understand that but
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my how i'm saying you know men are pushing pee and don't sleep with them both of them fall under
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the category of protect yourself from men because you guys are scary creatures yeah i think that women
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are equally uh scary just in different ways right i think i got to go into the bear okay i got to do
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the bear we won't debate it right now but i'm gonna ask a question when you you're hold on what's the
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precise i don't want to fuck up scuff the framing of this okay would you rather come across a random
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i haven't i've heard of this but i haven't really i don't know what the real argument like you're just
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gut uh i probably the bear because you could scare the bear off you're not going to scare a man off if
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he sees you along in the woods okay what about you a man the man okay a bear a bear probably the man
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even if he was ted bundy in his prime still the man still ted bundy oh okay that's a toss up there
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okay go ahead um honestly this is kind of like stuck in my mind because like if you don't like tempt the
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bear it's not going to like attack you and if you're just there and you're like kind of i think it's
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like beast to be fair i haven't done my research on bears and then like same thing as brooklyn said
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like a man like could do anything like they see you alone in the woods in the dark like and it could
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be a really nice guy or it could be a guy with really bad intentions so i go ahead
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i'm uh a man i think it's not not what i thought you were setting up i honestly don't know what i
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was setting up for it sounds like you're setting up to say bear you know what i'm gonna change my
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answer i'm gonna go bear okay what about you i don't assume all men are bad i would pick a man
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okay oh that's good man and i've had an experience with a bear you've had a bear experience okay
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really quick we maybe we'll touch on it later just because we have so much to get through i'm just
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curious uh those of you said bear why well i said you could scare a bear off you probably not
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gonna scare a man off okay i feel the same way and some men actually get more turned on when you
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are scared what the okay oh i said man oh you said it was just and you said bear why bear
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i'm still honestly really conflicted in my answer but i think it's kind of like i think it's like how
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sharks work like if you don't tempt a shark and then if you just leave it be like it's not going
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to attack you or if you don't look like a seal i think but like also i might have just watched too
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many criminal minds where i just assume the worst in all men that when you are alone in dark woods
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that they could do something really bad to you okay but wait so i'm just curious i'm just curious
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with this like man or bear thing so just going back to you two i guess um like what percentage
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of men would you say would like what what percentage of men do you think would choose to
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that's a 50 50 shot i don't know 50 50 50 percent of men would all right well i mean you have to
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understand too we're talking from our own like our own views of how we see men the men we encounter
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the amount of men we encounter it's a lot so ours might be different than so because of your
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experience half the men in this room are predators correct i don't i i can't say that i don't uh i don't
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know these men i would say that logically they're not predators well i mean that would be the that
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would be the stats right be one and two yeah well i'm just i'm talking about a large larger sample
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size than what's in this room yeah but the the sample size would be scalable so it's like if it's
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one and two then every time you had two men the chances that one of them was a predator would be
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extremely high and like i said i don't know anyone in this room i just met everyone today
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so how would i know what you guys do on your free time at the end of the day you're a vegan by
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the way right i am i don't know why that came to mind uh well a vegan or vegetarian i'm a vegan
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pescatarian no no no dairy no dairy at all nope no no eggs nope okay good times good times okay so
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moving off from the bear thing we have we'll do two more videos then we'll get to some other people
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on the panel let's do the two more videos go ahead oh shit okay go ahead all right y'all keep
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comparing women to cars and why do y'all keep talking about wanting virgins like what are you 30 40 50
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and you're commenting about wanting a virgin you probably want a virgin because the older woman
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is more experienced and she could tell that dick game is whack and your treatment is bullshit
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why do y'all the dick game is whack okay um okay i think that that was you leanne right
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lena oh sorry lena my bad um is that why men want virgins is because the the dick game is whack
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i just my point with the the dick game being whack is that a younger more inexperienced
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girl wouldn't be able to tell if the dick game yeah good yeah good like why do you i don't understand
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would do you want her to go fuck a bunch of dudes so she has a frame of reference
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good times uh okay i feel like we already went over this topic so we'd just be like repeating
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ourselves at this point it's like next clip this is another recap this is the same it's uh it's
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like a different font just a different font okay i feel people should value being more sexually
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disciplined but i personally don't believe that body count is an issue as long as you value your energy
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now and you're very choosy with who you share your body with i think that's what matters
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get health checkups if you had a little whole phase baby that doesn't mean i'm crossing you off
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my list that just means you more experienced just get those test results and come on down and show me
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what you got i will wait so okay okay i'm again this this is where i get confused oh it's not over
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oh let it keep going say energy is a real thing so the people you do sleep with you really got to be
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careful who you do share your body with because you could sleep with someone and those demons are
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now inside of you and now you got to cleanse them out of you and people won't know this information
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so they'll just go about their everyday life they'll be like oh why am i more depressed
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oh why i gotta work through this and that more it's because you slept with the wrong person so yeah
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body count doesn't matter but who you share your body with does matter and if you are more sexually
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disciplined you'll feel the need to sleep with less and less people because you'll realize that
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you don't want to exchange energy with a lot of people it is good to be choosy just do better from
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here on out stop fucking everybody i feel people i'm just here's where i'm confused fair enough so um
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so what's your body count what's my body count wait hold on well i gotta know right what's the body
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you know wait we'll have your answer in just a sec but lizzie i want you to answer first
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to to can i start with a question for you i have a question okay go ahead so you're saying that a
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woman that has an extremely high body count would still have the same value to you so if i say that
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my body count is about between 100 and 120 which it is are you not judging me in your mind because i
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would think you're crazy if you're not no offense no i'm not judging you and i am crazy oh sweet okay
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so uh so so so then what's what's your body count i don't feel comfortable sharing that i thought you
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just said in the video it didn't matter it doesn't matter but i'm talking more like if me and a man are
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getting to know each other and he wants to know that information which he could ask me that and i'll be
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honest with him so then it does matter if he if we want to have a conversation about it then i could
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tell him no i mean it either does matter it doesn't matter if it doesn't matter why wouldn't you share
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it i'm not saying you have to i'm just testing the logic of understanding if it doesn't matter
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then why don't you share what yours is it doesn't matter but i feel like i get to keep personal
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details to myself and if my man wants to know i'll let him know but i don't understand it doesn't
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matter though i'm saying in a scenario of me and a man deciding to be with one another so then
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your body count is your personal story so you get to share that with who you want to
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yeah i get that you can share it with who you want to but why wouldn't you share it with
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everybody if it doesn't matter because i'm more private on the public it sounds like it matters to
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would you believe her if she even told you what it was if she said my body count is two would you
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believe that multiply it by three and that's the real number so um let us assume for a second i
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wouldn't don't you think that it's rather suspicious if a person says that body count
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does not matter but then when asked they say i don't feel comfortable sharing it it sure sounds
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like they think it matters right yeah or maybe it doesn't matter so much that they don't care to share
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it well then if it didn't matter so much they didn't care to share it it would matter so little
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that they wouldn't care to not share it either because it doesn't matter that's what doesn't matter
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means if it doesn't matter then that means it doesn't matter exactly two things could be true
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at once yeah yeah so we're just assuming both things are true at the same time but if it doesn't
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matter then who cares i don't get it so that doesn't make any sense like if i said if for instance if my
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wife came to me and she said honey would you like steak or chicken for dinner and i said oh it doesn't
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matter and then she brought me the chicken and i said ah you know i really wanted the steak
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well then obviously it did matter right and when i said it doesn't matter i wasn't being um
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well let's say honest right i wasn't quite in the frame of honesty there because uh you know it did
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matter didn't it yeah in that scenario yeah so then thing is is that can you give me a scenario
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where you say something doesn't matter two hundred dollars if the person i share my body with matters
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then it should matter how many people the person i share my body with have been within the past
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so my body count would matter just as much vice versa yeah i wouldn't but i mean wouldn't my wife kind
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of go and you know maybe in that situation i wouldn't even be being dishonest maybe i just didn't
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know right maybe i didn't know that it mattered right maybe i maybe that's what it is maybe i wasn't
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intentionally lying or something like this it just i i just didn't realize that it did actually matter
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but don't say my wife would be like well what the fuck you just said it didn't matter then why does it
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matter suddenly i think that she would can you give me a scenario where somebody would say it doesn't
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matter but then what when you ask him about it it suddenly does matter like that's what i was referring
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to in the real is if i'm getting to know a man and he tells me like babe i had a whole phase but i'm
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more sexually disciplined now i'm not going to judge him or look at him sideways and if he finds out my
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body count and he feels a way about it then okay so then so then let's be kind of being charitable then
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you're just saying in this situation of you in a personal relationship it doesn't matter
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but outside of that it does matter or does it just never matter like i'm trying to figure this out
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i don't want to share my body count number it doesn't mean well it must matter there must be
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some reason that it matters to you right my privacy matters so that's the part yeah so then so then so
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then it must matter like what for instance um i have blue eyes it doesn't matter to me that you know
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that i don't care right it's it's a it doesn't matter at all um that you know that i have blue
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eyes so that i mean i guess if i was on the phone with somebody they didn't know that i had blue eyes
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i would be fine saying i have blue eyes because it doesn't matter to me that is a physical character
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characteristic you could tell so it was a body count that's a physical characteristic it requires
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how could you tell if i have five bodies versus 50 how can you tell i could at least take you at your
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word but you don't even want to give at your word right because it matters that much but the it's
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called the thousand cock stare sometimes you see it in a girl you look in her eyes it's like that's
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but i mean i can't even okay so guess i can't even disbelieve you because it matters so much to you
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you won't even share it glazed over look that's really it's just really weird do you guys do you
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ladies ladies body count doesn't matter and then you go okay what's your body count you're like
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well i'm not telling you i said baby not ladies baby your body count don't matter yeah well i mean
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who are you talking to you talking to ladies i'm talking to co-ed but i'm mostly talking to like
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my wait i got i got the question i got the question for you okay okay go ahead would you
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date a guy who slept with men previously so he's bi um yeah like a week ago he just got his back blown
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out son that wouldn't be my preferred candidate because i'm not gonna lie that's why is it because
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he had sex recently or is it because he had sex recently with with a dude it's not that he
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had it more recently is that it would like raise an eyebrow because now it's not
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just getting tapped from she doesn't want to think that she's checking out the same
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like they're checking out the same man together yeah i see and i have been with the bisexual man
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so okay and broca what about you like if a guy he's had a history of like sleeping with with dudes
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would you would that be an issue yes that that feeling that you guys feel that's how we feel
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about girls who who sleep with dudes what about let's do you care if you're are you in a relationship
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are you in a relationship i can't discuss my oh okay well if you were so you are sure and she said
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hey you know before we started dating you know i ate some coochie how do you feel i'd prefer i'd
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prefer to date a woman who's straight but i think there is a bit of a differential here but uh i would
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prefer to date um wait what no oh that's andrew's answer yeah i'd prefer to date a straight girl but
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scissored a chick okay fine whatever you know whatever i'll give you a pass i'll give her a pass i'm a nice
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guy i'll give her a pass she gets the pass scissored pass what about eating coochie still a pass what
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so how is so but it's well it's interesting to me i think men are more willing to date
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bisexual women than women are willing to date bisexual men there is a differential there women
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are dating bisexual men all the time they just don't know it yeah sure okay true so but i think
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women so you're saying that a bunch of women are dishonest is that what you're saying there's a bunch
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of women out there who are dating their men and are not disclosing the fact that they're bisexual
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is that what no she's saying that a lot of women date men thinking they're straight but they don't know
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that deep down inside they crave some dick they're bisexual word i do got to move it along we we're
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going to have to cap the reactions to all the clips to like five minute stops so i'm going to be
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keeping track of the reactions last clip then i'm opening it up to the rest of the panel we lingered
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quite a bit on these other topics go ahead nick oh god
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if someone calls you a hoe it's honestly not a diss because do you know that always is a very beautiful
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woman that sells her tucci so you know what that means she got deeper pockets than a lot of y'all so
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if someone's calling you hoe they're saying you're a beautiful girl with a lot of money and it's
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honestly not that big of a diss yeah you have sexual appeal and yeah a lot of men are going to
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be mad at it but they're going to find something to be mad at anyways hoe is heaven on earth and if
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someone calls you a hoe so i will say with this one this was also recapping notes and it was okay it
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was like a trolling reel back at all the 304 comments i would get like you're just a fucking
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hoe you're a hoe so i was just making i was making a lighter okay yeah i'm a hoe that means i'm beautiful
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la la la yeah you were like i was just making fun of it you're reclaiming yeah so you don't so you
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don't actually think that being a hoe is a good thing uh well about that i mean you don't actually
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think it's a good thing right because you were just trolling and funning right you was just funning
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right i feel like being a hoe does come with a lot of negative experiences so it's not the most
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positive thing okay all right so it's a bad thing i want to say it's completely bad but i want to say
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it's completely good well i don't know what that means like is would you if a woman said look i can
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be a hoe or i can not be a hoe which do you advise would you would you be indifferent or would you
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advise them to not be a hoe i feel like it's situational if they were in a good situation
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that they were let's say let me just use an example them they're a hoe they have one client
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they treat them very well it's a more comfortable situation then you have a hoe that has like various
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clients they all want to do stuff she's not comfortable with she's constantly with different
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men that's different so it's situational like if a woman feels like like a sugar baby a sugar baby
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could be a type of hoe i wouldn't say that's completely bad but someone who's
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having a lot of sexual experiences that they don't like that's going to alter their brain
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and negatively impact them okay and then the second part of this because i didn't understand
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any of that but i won't press anymore um you said that that means that they're calling you a beautiful
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woman uh are you saying that ugly women can't be hoes i didn't say that okay so ugly women can be hoes
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yeah they can oh okay there are no ugly women andrew yeah so then when you said in that clip uh that
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means that they're calling you a beautiful woman well they're not really calling you a beautiful woman
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necessarily right and like i said i was trolling and making fun of something well but not really because
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when i ask if you're funning about it you're like well not really because i do endorse being a hoe under
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certain circumstances which are kind of evasive and preferential based and i don't really understand
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exactly what those conditionals are but just assuming that we grant those conditionals it doesn't sound
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like you were trolling it sounds like you're saying it is fine to be a hoe if you want to be a hoe
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that's what it sounds like well i guess you could say there's some truth in every joke so yeah
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okay all right moving on des i'm gonna bring you in for a moment you described yourself
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i don't know if you still do as a feminist um no i wouldn't say i'm a feminist oh wouldn't say it
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used to be though yeah okay and you had a tinder date gone wrong you want to tell us about um yeah
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it was like the one time that i used tinder and um basically i started dating this guy and he was like
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he was cool like we linked up like 20 minutes away from the crib but that's like beside the point but
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it ended up being like um he lied about for one he stayed like two minutes from where i actually stayed
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so we like went out the way to go do that but then he also didn't say he had a baby or a baby mama
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and um ended up coming out because she dm'd me and then i just brought it all to light and then i
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stopped um talking to him eventually over that but also i went back on there so this is like the one
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time i used tinder but like you know the experience in general um i started talking to another guy
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and mind you i ended up being cool with this this other guy's baby mama because you know she told me
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you know and we just kind of like became cool well um i was like babysitting for her and stuff because
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she was like she's going on a date or whatever and like fast forward it turns out that we was both
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talking to the same guy um like the baby mama me was talking to the same guy aside from her actual
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like baby daddy um it just got it was just messy like it was it's like something i laugh about now
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but it was definitely messy at the time she probably still want to fight me i don't know
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all right so you're no longer a feminist because i think previously you described yourself as a okay
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wait to lighten the mood real quick to lighten the mood i gotta ask you okay everybody's demanding
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it in all of these chats can you get right close to the mic and say cash me outside how
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about that can you do that catch me outside how about that all right thank you i appreciate
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lighten the mood why does everyone say should we get it from these two girls too yeah come on let's
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let's get it all in no you're a little street kind of right a little street you know i'll do it
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if you do it i'll do it how about yeah okay all right you know look it's okay not everybody
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has it in them not everybody has it in them okay i'm gonna move things to lily actually wait before
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i come to lily i want to but i gotta wait till she's back okay lily you said you met a guy randomly
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during spring break in mexico yes i did crazy three day spring break fling yes in sayulita mexico
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what's that in sayulita yeah that's like where everyone like went for their college spring break
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and you he wrote a song about you yeah so wow that's beautiful basically we just like we're at
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a club in sayulita and then my friend was like oh you should invite him to the next bar i was like
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okay and we were just like dancing together and then we basically just had like a fling for
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essentially three days that's it it was just three days and then like when we were saying goodbye he's
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like i feel so connected to you like this like what is happening right now it's like i don't know
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but i want to go back home because it's like 4 a.m and so we keep texting while like after spring
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break because he's also from canada he's not from the us and so we keep texting and then he's like oh
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i also wanted to share something with you and i was like oh okay like i didn't know what to expect
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and then he sends me this like google drive of a song he wrote about our whole experience
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in sayulita mexico do you have it should we play it or not is that i think we can just play it
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i have it on my phone i want it you want it yeah yeah get the phone yeah let's hear it
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can somebody get what's your phone look like what's your phone it has fruits on the case
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is it good did you like the song it's a banger yeah it i was like honestly so curious because
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i feel like it could be such a turnoff if he's a bad singer is it actually good yeah but i couldn't
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it's kind of hard to understand him so i had to like mumble rapper no it's a mumble rapper he's not
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a mumble rapper he's not a mumble rapper okay let's hear it get that okay i gotta pull it up i gotta
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pull it up so it might take me a second okay that's fine while we're waiting on that i want to
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ask everybody if they've ever had a ross or if they currently or ever had a roster starting with you
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go ahead uh i talked to like three guys once for one week and by the end of the week everyone
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i was done just texting and stuff wait and so you said you've been single for
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three years celibate for two so there's no guys in the picture right now no but i mean you know you're
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you live in uh well inland empire is that considered la no that's its own county right okay it's like
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what an hour away from la or it's like 40 minutes oh it's close okay and it's even closer to sea
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yeah so you're in a pretty major like pretty densely populated area yes yeah uh you're young
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attractive you've got social media presence i'm sure there's a lot of guys who sliding into the dms
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maybe they do go do you party like go out to bars and clubs and shit uh we get paid to do hostings
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so yes we go out how how often would you say you go out to bars and clubs every weekend no definitely not
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friday saturday uh maybe like once twice a month once twice a month but we travel we just got back
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from miami you know we're miami okay yeah uh so there's no guys in the picture currently not even
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the guy you're texting or talking to no okay why is that uh just i don't really have any interest in
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talking to men kind of it feels like copy and paste a lot of the time copy and paste what do
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you mean it's almost as if i have to work on myself and um you know i have to become a different
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type of person and attract a different type of man okay because if it's copy and paste that means i'm
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just meaning the same type of person a different body do you have a type uh i have a type but
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i'm not like oh if they don't meet these requirements i want to ask your friend or
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no you guys are like fake sisters or real like real yes real sisters sisters okay what's her type
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the best way to describe it is a teddy bear a teddy bear like appearance wise yeah thank you josh uh
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so like uh dad thought she's into that they have to be um significantly taller they have to have a beard
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and they could be any race huh they can be what they could be any race really maybe any waist size
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race race oh race yeah so you'll date like white you'll she likes she likes white white middle
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eastern black wait question your boyfriend of eight years uh white guy french and turkish so
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middle eastern and white olive olive skin a little bit okay right turkish is that a little
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seasoned chicken seasoned chicken okay all right uh okay
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so there's this man is just partying i've seen him go through cigarettes now he's drinking oh he's
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he's turning up andrew's lit wait what's wrong with smoking cigarettes and drinking beer there's
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definitely a lot wrong with uh smoking a cigarette but but the drinking wait don't you guys you endorse
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hang on you endorse prostitutes you're worried about me smoking i just it's okay to smoke a pole but not a
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cigarette come on leave let's get it together let's get it together wait but don't you guys
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work in cannabis yeah cannabis isn't isn't that worse than no no it's not i think it's worse than
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cigarettes i think it's worse than cigarettes why are you looking i accidentally kicked something in it
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it was okay okay uh wait wait wait well hang on okay so what's your criticism mean guy smokes and
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drinks is that the criticism mean mean guy on the screen he smokes and drinks did i say you were mean
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what's that did i say you were mean i don't know you're giving me a little look like you think i'm
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mean you give me that i think you're a mean guy look it's giving her the mean yeah no i never said that
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okay uh do you have you ever had a roster a roster rostered like talking to bare like bare minimum
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talking to multiple guys at the same time no never never always one at a time okay what about you
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yes had the roster yes i i feel like you got riz you got that sleeper riz though where people like
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sleeper is is like they don't think you got riz but you got riz okay i can see that yeah you can
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underestimate me you that's right that's what happens they underestimate you next thing you
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know boom right next thing you know they're in love they're in love um so you had a roster how
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many what how big was the roster um i can't recall do you know maybe like five five was it more than
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was it more than five no okay ever had a roster yes yeah how big how big i can't even remember it was
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like 20 no no no no no no no it's okay if it's big and definitely these are just like talking to
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like my roster is never like you know um i would say like seven seven how many like smashing though
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one just one always one but it's like i always entertain something my girl liz what's up
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yes i did you had the roster yes how big was the roster um typically about three or four
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three or four yeah and that's like hooking up with yes i don't just talk
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if you're talking you're yeah you're having sexual impulse yep i was trying to find something
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more clever to say but uh okay so the most at one time was four four at the same time
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well not like they're all there together no no no but like in a like a fortnight in a fortnight
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yeah 14 days how much how much in 14 oh geez like also i don't know like one a week so two oh only two
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two you know fortnight yeah fortnight yeah i had to work i didn't have time every night
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to do stuff you never done two in the day no oh wait a minute uh oh you know what yes i did i did i
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forgot two in a day i'm sorry it's okay it's not that i've heard more than that i heard six in a day
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once so you that's rookie numbers right there you gotta pump that up we heard about uh what was it one
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who did hundreds and hundreds in like a week we've heard some crazy she's australian i think yeah
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they're those i don't know what's going on in australia it was the uh the kangaroo cocksucker right
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that is a crime andrew it is a crime okay what about you ever had a roster um like once when i was
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going through my little hinge phase but it was also like destiny yeah yeah the dating app yeah
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the dating app um like destiny it was like i was talking to multiple people but it wasn't like i
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was sleeping with multiple people how big was your roster like four or five five okay yeah what about
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you no what about your friend that was too shy to be on the show does she have she's got riz right
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she's got game does she does she does she got but she's not a slut so yeah well that's i wasn't saying
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that i think you have a roster no just asking if she does she have a roster right now no she got
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a boyfriend i don't know oh boy i don't know see you don't want to say because she's got a roster
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no you don't want to throw her under the bus she's not like that she's not seeing a guy right
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she's respectable she's not seeing a she's she's not there's no carnal knowledge of a man currently
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i don't know isn't this like your home girl yeah it is you guys don't talk about this you're
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probably on the drive she pleads the fifth okay that's right i respect the silence no i haven't
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had a roster okay all right uh where were we we're getting into the notes oh i'm gonna bring it over
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to you now so our good friend kelsey oh lily song oh yeah let's play the song okay play the song
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then we get to kelsey do i just like hold my phone yeah hold it up to the mic just like that just
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should i turn the volume all the way up uh we can adjust it but yeah it should be fun okay
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don't show the don't show the screen yeah or the screen to the camera
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is that a ukulele i have no idea i have no idea
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i've heard enough i've heard enough you know what he reminds me of he kind of has mac de
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marco's voice get this man a record deal get him a fucking record deal he's probably gonna
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get a record deal that's so sweet he made a song that is very sweet beautiful now here's the crazy
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shit though what if he that's he does that same shit to all the chicks he's talking to oh babe i
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like you so much let me just he could be doing that someone made a verse for me in a song but he
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talks about a lot of other girls so it's like but i know which one's specifically mine is it drake
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is it drake that made it yeah i wish you would you would what drake's your i could set you up if
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you're done drake's my man i got connects in canada so okay although isn't he in trouble
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kind of i don't know anyways all right drake is her type that's my man to a t drake is your type
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that's my man yeah like he could just be doing anything she's like oh my god yes rappers is your
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type okay that man is my man okay all right did you see his that leak video yes i have it uh
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saved in my phone do you watch it before you go to bed every night i have like 33 000 photos and
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videos in my phone so i know exactly where it is yeah just right before bed yes you just watch him
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with his meat can yeah yeah like when i'm when i'm scrolling through my thing if i come by i always
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stop by it you know good times good times all right we're getting to kelsey yes all right kelsey
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oh killer of cereal donated 200 for everyone would you rather date a person of the sex you're not
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interested in or date your perfect person but they have three of everything arms legs
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etc etc a little spider babe you have three of everything wait three would you rather date a
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person of the sex you're not interested in of but they have three of everything arms legs
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i'd yeah i'd still date the woman i wouldn't date the man because the man
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has kind of three things i don't know okay that was terrible ladies here just show of hands would you
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rather like man with would you rather date a man with three of all appendages or a woman or a chick
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who's normal okay i think the answer is man okay kelsey getting to your notes you said your first
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boyfriend was at 23 24 is that correct yeah and you lost your virginity to him is that at 23 i think is
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what you said okay uh but he turned out to have a lot of those red pill ideologies how long did you
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date him for uh four months four months um and he apparently he was pretty out there pretty crazy
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a little crazy okay you said in terms of his views on body count pair bonding and he also racist too
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a little racist yeah that came up eventually he didn't like white people he said he would rather
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have his girlfriend wait wait uh hold on let me before you say it he would just uh say it without
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saying the race part he would rather what have his girlfriend cheat on him with the dog
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then okay i yeah okay was he a white guy mixed he was what he was mixed he was mixed half white half
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filipino wait i'm sorry damn that's crazy he said he rather his one
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no but can i say the b can she insinuate it the the b word oh all right well
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damn that's crazy okay good times um it's okay views on body count pair bonding you ended up with
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a restraining order he held you hostage for 24 hours yes broke into your emails tried to prove
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you're cheating on him yeah okay damn that's crazy um yeah what so really quickly was what were his
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views on body count and pair bonding um that it's okay for a man to sleep with a bunch of chicks
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and but not for a woman okay so like the andrew tate kind of stuff sure okay all right and uh
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so kind of as a restraining order is it still active no anyways moving on yeah so uh so okay
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you sent a video then you sent a transcript kind of of the video yeah i could read it
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as you sent it to me or i could just have you restate your positions oh i could try to restate
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it i might need a drink for this conversation um and there's a lot here yeah i just kind of rolled
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out of bed and wrote it um maybe it's better to read it okay so there's a couple different versions
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of it but you there's a couple and so well you sent it like you sent two different videos then
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yeah you sent them anyways yeah here you fill in if if there's anything i leave blank you fill it in
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so you said you had a controversial opinion culturally socially men and women are conditioned to be
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shaped in different ways women are more often to be victimized men more often to be victimizers
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abusers abusers and men are more likely to see their behavior as normal and women are not
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or um not putting them at risk hold on i wrote that down wrong one sec
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i'm just sorry one sec guys i'm trying to get there's like it was sent to me in like millions of
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different ways um i mean do you want to just articulate your position
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because it is your position not mine so yeah i know but i'm just having uh trouble articulating
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myself right now but in general yeah i think i fall under the opinion that we are kind of conditioned
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by a variety of forces throughout our life and i think that it i mean in any society there's things
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that are normalized and we're blind to those things because this is a society that we're
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calibrated to and you wouldn't really otherwise think any differently unless you can take a step
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back and try to look at them from a different perspective is there any chance we can get you
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to move a little closer to your mic sorry is that better yeah thank you yeah yeah it's way better
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do you have anything that you would like to address specifically or that where you would like
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me to expand on okay so i guess this is from the text you said uh i think hold on i'm just reading
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in here uh you said for men i think they're shaped into ways that put them into the role of the abuser
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um and so i'm a little confused by that um you said you said i think men are incentivized to view
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behaviors that are damaging and even cruel towards women as normal i think this is partially accomplished
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through exploiting natural biological features of males specifically but also humans generally men are
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conditioned to tie their self-worth and to learn to value themselves based on the quality and quantity
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of women and sex they're able to obtain combine this with hyper sexualization
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of men by exploiting corrupting their child brains through adult content exposure typically at a young
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age i'm not going to get into that but um it makes it easy and effortless for a lot of men to
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objectify and sexualize women without restraint
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do you just disagree with that you don't think that it's very common in our society for men to
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i'm just reading what you're saying i'm asking if you do disagree with it i well i disagree that
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men are groomed into being abusers i think abusers was a strong word and i shouldn't have said that
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well you used it multiple times by abuse i would i'm defining it as the misuse or improper
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treatment of women and sex okay um well i mean i can just continue reading but you could just offer
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up what your actual position is so i think that men a lot of like our society is that it ties a man's
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self-worth to women in terms of you're very close to me sorry i think that a lot of men have their
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self-worth tied to sex and women and the quality and quantity that they can obtain and i think that
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causes people to behave in irrational ways uh but it would seem it would seem to me and you can correct
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me if i'm wrong um i do get kind of a strong vibe based on and this is a vibe check right but i do get
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kind of a vibe based on what you've said earlier in the conversation that you might be a little bit
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more on the leftist progressive side would that be kind of accurate to say yeah yeah okay um so i'm
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guessing that you believe in some kind of evolutionary model yes yeah so i mean if that's the case then
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wouldn't status and uh which is related to reproduction um be a thing which would be very
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evolutionarily advantageous yeah well then why wouldn't society conduct itself around that
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i think status is a normal thing to desire but i do think that it is kind of exploited in our society
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what do you mean where i think there's a lot of indicators when you're growing up that tell you
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as a man that if you don't have a woman in your life or if you aren't able to sleep with a bunch of
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women that you're not a high value man yeah but from an evolutionary standpoint reproduction is the
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primary edict right yeah so then the man who reproduces the most would have the most status
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that kind of makes the most sense doesn't it sure so i mean it so then it seems that if reproduction
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is the primary edict and and having sex with lots of women we could assume leads to lots of
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reproduction i why wouldn't i still understand why society wouldn't kind of foment or foment itself
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around that right i think that it makes sense that it would form itself around that but i i'm i think
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it's also over emphasized in a way that well i mean we have a we have a birth rate crisis right
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like shouldn't shouldn't we be having more babies not less babies so i mean wouldn't wouldn't
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reproduction of the primary edict matter here like wouldn't that matter a lot but like all biological
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all biological entities their ultimate purpose is to reproduce right so if that's the case and man
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wants to reproduce a lot which is what he was evolved to do assigning status to that seems like it makes
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a lot of sense i think it makes sense but i think it also can lead to people doing questionable things
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in order in the pursuit of that status yeah sure but i mean anything you would assign status to could
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be the case right if like anything literally anything having two pennies in your pocket and that is somehow
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a status marker for for humanity would still lead to all sorts of different outlier problems right
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sure yeah so i mean i don't really understand why this is a why this is a big problem it seems like
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it's evolutionarily advantageous i think the idea is reinforced that you don't have value unless you have
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beautiful women in your life or if you're unable to have sex with many women yeah right but i mean if
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you're not adhering to the primary edict wouldn't you have less value the point is to reproduce right
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what if you're doing it and you're not reproducing yeah so i mean that does bring up a whole different
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can of worms which is what happens when you allow a society to fornicate without reproduction it seems
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to lead to terrible outcomes i completely agree with that but uh but the question still remains i don't
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really understand how you would organize a society if reproduction is the goal uh without assigning
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status to those who reproduce i don't i don't really even know how you could do that
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i think in some ways that by tying like over stressing or emphasizing this like how we tie our
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self-worth or value ourselves based upon sex and women is kind of what contributes to the
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problems that we're having between men and women okay because the men are doing everything to try
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to access sex or like have sex with as many women as they can and using women and betraying women
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then it's going to leave a lot of women in a position where they're i mean aren't they evolved
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to do just that aren't they evolved to spread their seed far and wide to as many women as possible
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isn't that hugely advantageous to humanity what's hugely advantageous is for two parents to raise
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their child together that is the most likely well i mean that's going to require reproduction
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and status so so like let me give you an example what i mean let's say a man has a family has a
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wife and he has four children and that man acquires more status in society because he has a wife and
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four children and we adhere to that and we say oh man that's that's a some kind of status indicator
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do you think that men would be more likely or less likely to do that
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i think men would be more likely to pursue that yeah exactly i agree i think that men would be
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far more likely to pursue that so then why wouldn't we instead of the progressive mantra
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push society towards that family unit and give it status like that makes no sense to me
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i think right now we live in a society where people are valuing themselves on materialistic
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possession i totally agree with you on that and i think that includes turning women into
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materialistic possession i completely agree with that too but i think that that's not because of
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status i would say it's because the opposite of that right so if you had higher status if you didn't
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value materialism wouldn't less people value it if you had say that again so if you had a higher
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status in society by not valuing materialism wouldn't less people value it yeah yeah so i mean it seems
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like we should instead of saying we should get away from you know status seems like status isn't really
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the problem but rather what we're valuing that gives a person this status in society yeah i think
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i would i would definitely agree with that yeah so it sounds like a nuclear family is the thing that
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has the most or should have the most status right yeah i would agree with that but i think the point
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i'm trying to the thing i'm trying to point out is that in our society that is that's not what we
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value we value material possession and money and yeah but that's because of feminism right i would
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disagree well i don't understand are feminists the ones who are out there who value the nuclear family
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because last i checked they were doing everything they can to dismantle it i don't i don't i don't
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know what all feminists believe okay well are you a feminist i mean i've never considered myself one
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but i i probably would if you sat me down yeah okay so then feminism is a rejection of patriarchy
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that's that's what it is at its core right sure but i'm getting married and going to and having
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children so yeah i know but do you reject patriarchy you can be feminist and still value
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a family unit loyalty monogamy and raising children and yeah you can be a feminist and value all of those
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things i agree but you would you feminism is a rejection of patriarchal systems
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they reject patriarchals like for you and your husband let's give an example do you want you and
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your husband to be equals yes okay well that's feminism so that's not that's not an embrace of
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a patriarchal system you're not saying i want my husband to be the head of the household i want to
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be equal with my husband but we live in a patriarchy i'm sorry you're saying that the problems we're
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having are due to feminism and i i don't understand how you're making that connection when we live in a
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patriarchy do you think that the patriarchy is stronger or weaker than it was a hundred years ago
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probably just as strong really yeah so you think that women going into the workforce and things like
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this enabled the patriarchy i think if the page you think a hundred years ago we had as many female
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leaders we had as many females who were in charge of different systems who were ceos who were in
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charge of corporate you really believe that no but i mean isn't the point of patriarchy that it's
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the people at the very top that are controlling everything and the people at the very top are
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like predominantly men well no it's scalable like it's scalable right so you can have the people at
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the very top but it goes all the way down to the family the family unit with the man being held
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into the charge of the family unit and not the woman so the responsibility tends to fall on the
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man right that's why i don't think it didn't have bank accounts they didn't have credit lines things
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like that hey andrew our oh i think our internet's back sorry our internet crapped out there for a
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couple seconds andrew you getting us it's still yeah i got you it's looks like it's getting sorry guys
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i don't know what no no don't don't oh it's kind of crapping out andrew you still got us i still got
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you i don't know sorry something's full yeah the uh the quality went way down yeah hold on we're we're just
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give us just one sec here uh while we're waiting on that just going around the table
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do you consider yourself a feminist starting with you i would say humanist humanist okay no
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into the mics guys you can't wave you gotta speak no no no no no we're covered we're covered feminist okay
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uh wow we're still get our internet's pretty spotty here uh is it going to recover it keeps
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dropping and going back and forth oh now it's doing really well it's gone super
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insane hold on but you can still hear us andrew
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it's peculiar we're gonna have to recall him yeah can you pull up the chat is the chat still
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the matriarchy is attacking us the may it's the matrix no i don't know we can't hear andrew though brian can
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you hear me i can hear you yeah i just had myself muted that's all oh okay but yeah i haven't
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lost you guys at all and the the spottiness of the internet has it's greatly increased so i think
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we're good no i think it it looks green i'm sorry guys i don't know we lost a lot of viewers there
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unfortunately but hey it is what it is um all right we're back okay so again i might have to call
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andrew because i'm probably gonna have to read those shooting why what's wrong with uh
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okay that's fine do you want to recall them now and then i'll uh yeah oh let's no it works we're
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good okay it's fine yeah don't don't do it unless we have to well let me just go back to i guess your
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original notes here so i mean you said that you think men are kind of on the opposite side where
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men are are encouraged to be more sexually deviant or just abusive towards women and you think it creates
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a weird dynamic so met you're saying men are more important or kind of encouraged to be more
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sexually deviant or just abusive towards women do you think men or women are more sexually deviant
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men are women yeah i think men men yeah you know the book 50 shades of gray yeah yeah who
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predominantly who bought those books one of the best-selling books of all time women women yeah the
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book where he's in a bdsm dynamic with her and i think my interpretation of that i've never read
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the book he's a sadist i think my interpretation of that is is perhaps women desiring a man whose
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soul attention is on her and not on various other women and what about the bdsm dynamic where he's a
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sadist i don't know that's not part of it i don't know when you uh when you say deviant uh sexually
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deviant what do you mean just uh partners or uh preferences or kind of kind of unpack that a
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little bit for us i think i'm just getting at the tendency of men to um objectify women and sexualize
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women do you think women sexualize women women sexualize themselves yeah so if there wasn't such
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a predominance of women uh showing themselves on the internet and all of this wouldn't the sexual
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deviance of men i think it's be also down because they're not being flooded with imagery and
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um just vulgarity from women yeah i think it would be good if all women would stop doing porn um but
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i don't think that women are creating the demand for it and i think they're creating a supply right
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i'll give you i want to give you an anecdote so i'm not inclined to choke women the amount of
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women who have requested that i choke them is a lot it occurs to me that seems like it's actually the
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women who are a bit more sexually deviant than men are i've heard from many women that they have gone on
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dates and had sex with a man for the first time and the man puts his hand on her neck without even
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asking about it okay i'm saying the opposite is true i mean that's been your experience you've had
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women that have asked you to do that but then there's also been plenty of men that have just
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gone and sure that's probably the same thing yeah probably both okay i'm not saying like the problems
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in society are more men men's fault than women's fault i'm saying i think that we are kind of
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put into this behavior yeah i think i'm i think i'm kind of willing to engage with this i think where
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you're i understand where you're going here uh that men when you say that men sexualize women more
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than women sexualize men you mean that men when they categorize women we're looking at things like
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a stead what that are aesthetically pleasing to us right so almost every woman we meet uh maybe in the
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back of our head we think i do her right or something like that something like more akin to that is
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that what you're saying not necessarily i mean i think that's probably part of it i think there are a lot of
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men that think that it's just completely normal to immediately start fantasizing about a woman
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that they find attractive rather than just having well i don't know i don't even know if they're
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fantasizing but maybe they just have like a knee-jerk reaction or that just pops into their head right
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or something that's fine but i think a lot of people think it's okay to indulge in that yeah yeah i
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would agree but the thing is is again wouldn't this be evolutionarily advantageous for men to want to
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have sex with lots of women and so they judge them based on their physical appearance and the beauty
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standards that they have tend to coincide with how healthy they would be for offspring right
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sure like i think i i agree that these things have a natural basis but i think that they are
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like extenuated or exacerbated by society and yeah but the question is when you're talking about this
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exacerbation it seems that the exacerbation has gone the opposite way of reproduction which is very strange
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to me so you would think that if men were out there being sexual deviants and just having sex with
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tons of women there'd be a lot more kids but there's not
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yeah yeah well my question is why do you think that there isn't
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because women are in birth control yeah and who pushed birth control
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probably feminist from what era i don't know oh well that would be the say that would be the
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sexual revolution so the thing that you're upset about which is the promiscuity issue that was brought
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to you by women brought to you by women and the sexual revolution of hey uh all this chastity stuff
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well that's that's all bad women should be able to bang as many dudes as they want this is a good thing
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and that now they can because of birth control right that was part of the freeing mechanism
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so just just pointing that out i think male promiscuity was also more accepted
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back in the day as well and just throughout history no it well it really wasn't do you
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want to know why why it wasn't because if you don't have birth control what is the natural outcome of
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sexual intercourse baby yeah babies and so if men weren't taking care of their babies there was
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also a natural outcome as well there was an enforcement mechanism the woman's family would
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do things like you know beat the out of him uh they would have what were called shotgun weddings
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there was all sorts of different things that would happen but what there was an enforcement mechanism
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which basically said if you make offspring you're going to have to take care of the offspring you're
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going to take care of the woman that you had the offspring with those were natural mechanisms in
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society i don't think like mistresses or brothels were entirely uncommon back then they're not entirely
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uncommon now i'm very not uncommon now but yeah very not uncommon now but that's my point right
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is that once you let the genie out of the bottle with a sexual revolution thing and then you have
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the mechanism of birth control so that there's no effect of the sexual intercourse anymore it's just
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pure pleasure and hedonism like what the hell do you think is going to happen of course this is exactly
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what's going to happen what else could there be i don't you can have all the fun with none of the
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responsibility like what did you think would happen to society i don't think the attitudes
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that men are more able to step out on their wives are able to sleep around has is something that's
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new yeah but so what like i mean monogamy is brought to you by christianity right monogamy is
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brought to you by religion it's a religious enforcement mechanism so there's no more left behind
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men that used to be a big problem i don't think necessarily religious enforcement mechanism i think
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a lot of monogamy is also just evolutionarily advantageous well hyperomy would be well then
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well okay but then religion would be evolutionarily advantageous that's the point yeah yes it's brought
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to you by religion and religion would be evolutionarily advantageous so if we're going to deduce this we
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can figure this out right we can say okay so we evolved to be religious because religious people
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go for monogamy that's why you would evolve that way right i mean not all religions are like that
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though yeah but but hang on the most predominant ones the most predominant religions on planet earth
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in this case christianity enforces monogamy is is it isn't yes i thought islam was the most
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predominant well you're wrong the number one is christianity number one i didn't know that
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here let's bring it back to you said that you think men are encouraged to be abusive towards women
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what do you mean by abuse abusive i again i think that was a poor choice of words i meant i mean
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already defined it it's the improper use and mistreatment of women okay um
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so they're not encouraged to be abusive towards women i think they're encouraged to
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use and lie and manipulate and do what they can to get sex from women are women encouraged to do
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the same in order to extract resources yeah i would say so okay i guess you as long as you don't have
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do you think a lot of men can do what you're describing yeah you think like majority of men
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have the capacity to be like sexual deviants and be able to sleep with many women i think
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i mean i don't know the exact statistics but i think the vast majority of men
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watch pornography but that doesn't mean that they're being abusive towards women no not necessarily
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but i think they're engaging in an activity that requires you to objectify women and it requires
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you to overlook how women end up in that position of being porn stars in the first place
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don't like i think even dating apps kind of show that most men don't have the capacity to
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uh meet even meet up with a bunch of women so women are able to choose and they're choosing this
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only like a select few yeah i would say sorry i would say probably the majority of the damage is probably done by a
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minority of men not like a majority of the damage be done by majority women because they're the ones
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who actually have the capacity to be more promiscuous to be more manipulative because they have more
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opportunity no i don't see how why if they have more sexual selection how would they not be more
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prone to being more manipulative because they have more capacity i think when you have less
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selection that is when you have to go and resort to things like manipulation and lying and coercion and
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pushing boundaries but if you're not even that top tier person like uh what we what women would
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consider attractive you don't even have the opportunity to do that unless you're talking
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about something that's uh forceful which that's statistics yeah i'm not majority of men are like
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that i'm not saying that majority of men are like that i think that men are more likely to be put into
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that position and i'm trying to explain away the perceptions like why do women have this perception of
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men as being users or abusers or like why do women have this fear of men i'm not saying it's the
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responsibility of all men but i'm saying that there's women have had this they're they're drawing
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from their own personal experience you don't think they're drawing from maybe cultural uh pressure for
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like when andrew was saying feminism kind of brought this feminism already positions a woman's
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worldview that they are oppressed therefore there has to be an oppressor right i think i mean i think
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that could definitely add to to it where it's like it it feels a lot worse when you go through
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something um and you're or maybe you make a mistake on your own and um you are looking for an out a way
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to remove the blame from yourself yeah i think you can so you could complete that maybe your personal
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anecdotal experience is reflective of things that are happening more generally say that again you're
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saying that something that anecdotally might happen to you you're now extrapolating and saying that this
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could happen more generally um i don't i don't think that's what i well that's what i'm trying
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to figure out because feminism is telling you you're oppressed you're a woman so who would
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be oppressing you if you're a woman other women or men i think the feminist argument would be
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desi mora donated two hundred dollars words have meaning unless it contradicts my position then it
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means two things at once where it is convenient for me lol whatever andrew's mental endurance is insane
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thanks for all you do uh thank you zesi mora appreciate it if i can just move things along here a
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little bit but uh so you said that there's a culture for men by men about how they should treat
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women i'm not gonna i don't want to linger on this because it gets into like the essay stuff but
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you did write it down so i'll touch on it briefly but i'll we'll only give it five ten minutes
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and so you said you think so this is what you said so i think a lot of men might find themselves
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in situations where they're alone with a woman who maybe is drunk maybe not whatever and they
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aren't aware of the ways that she's been conditioned to be more passive but also this biologically
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uh this biological prerogative for self-defense where there's a natural inherent dynamic between
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men and women you said it's women i think from a physiological perspective you can't deny that a
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man is stronger and you're gonna sense that if you're alone in a room with a man you're gonna be
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more agreeable and then also probably more likely conditioned societally to be more agreeable to find
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yourself to not press your boundaries as much as you should because you assume that men are going to react
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violently if you do you assume that from a biological perspective you assume that from a biological
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perspective but also you assume that because you're conditioned to believe that and then men are
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probably not even thinking about that i'm just a little confused are you saying that women who end up
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alone in a room with a man are in all instances are essayed i'm confused no that's not what i'm saying
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well you're saying like just by virtue of being in that situation that what i'm you wrote it these
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are your words i think what i'm trying to convey is that when you are in alone or when you're alone
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in a room with somebody and there's a like inherent power dynamic what's the power what would the power
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dynamic be that he's a man and you're a woman so just simply by virtue of the being a man okay that's
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the power dynamic don't you think that there's like no go ahead just finish your finish your point
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god no finish your argument god i was saying that if you are a woman alone in a room with a man there's
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an inherent power dynamic and that i think there would be some sort of evolutionary adaptation where
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you would maybe be more submissive so you're saying if a woman finds herself alone assuming she's
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attracted to the man and has agreed to be in the room alone with him right how did they get there
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it doesn't have to be in that situation i mean so they're just what's the scenario that you're envisioning
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then we'll just okay fine we'll go with yours well i'm just like a suit like i i don't know i'm just
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a little confused here so you're saying that like if a woman has consensual like consents to sex it's
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not actually consent is that what you're arguing i'm just confused
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i guess in a way that that it's kind of what i was getting at but i think that there can be
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situations where there's coercion and there's boundary pushing and there's soft nodes that
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aren't really taken seriously and like maybe you're being playful but you're also saying no
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you're not trying to upset the person that you're with okay i'm just i don't know isn't coercion isn't
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definitionally i guess in this instance it's like implied threat from the due to the power dynamic
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implication of threat but isn't that just based on feeling sorry like it isn't that just based on
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feeling not necessarily the fact of the matter yeah but don't you think that there could be an
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evolutionary adaptation for that where it's it's better to be agreeable in a situation like that
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rather than to be combative no if you are actually in a threat a threatening situation
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no you have fight or flight right and you don't think that it might be better for a woman to
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she may not i mean there could be there could be some circumstances but when you're talking about
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coercion in this sense that wouldn't make any sense right the there's no implication even of threat
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you're just talking about a feeling that you have wouldn't that be more societally informed than
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anything like for instance if if women were running around telling you that 50 of men are predatory
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wouldn't that have an impact on whether or not you had a feeling that a man
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was being coercive towards you because society's telling you that men are a bunch of predators
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50 for instance yeah i think that would definitely influence how you feel in that moment yeah i think
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i think it would you know what i mean so it's like i think that that might be uh if we're using your
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the way that you're kind of viewing coercion that seems like it's far more coercive
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um you know than uh than the alternative of a man just i i don't know what giving you social cues
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for sex i don't you know i don't like i don't know is that what we're talking about here just kind
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of social cues yes yeah so i mean if that's what we're talking then it seems like the social
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implication here is that women who believe that and and spread around that 50 of men are hyper
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predatory would be would be far more of an influence on this um socially than any kind of
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fight or flight response unless you know because i mean that's influencing the social cue you don't
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think that a power dynamic can also influence that though just knowing that someone's stronger than
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you well i mean men are around men who are stronger than them all the time so they don't seem to and
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they don't they don't seem to uh kind of move into the idea that um as far as coercion goes that that
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any type of social interaction is going to be overtly threatening to them even though they're around
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people who are stronger than them constantly so like i don't know why women necessarily get this
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past there seems to be that when we're talking about social cues here that the influence of women
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um often like with this idea that men are predatory when they're really not i mean they're just really
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not statistically that's not based in fact at all um it's true that there's more men who are predators
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in the way that you're talking about it than women but who cares it's not very many of them
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right it's still not this vast amount it seems like that is an influencer more than anything else
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wait so are you arguing that women hang on hang on do you mind if she just answers that real quick
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or answers to that i don't have anything to say to that you think you kind of agree that that's true
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she doesn't have anything to say to it so do you agree or
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no okay okay what do you disagree with can you ask me your question you want me to ask you a question
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yes what you were going to say you don't want to answer anything killer of cereal donated two
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hundred dollars it's not the cocaine bears we have to worry about anymore it's the cocaine
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gators in florida now ladies would you rather run into a man or a 10-foot alligator while walking through the marsh
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hands up for 10-foot alligator okay there's your answer i'm just i'm confused okay because you said
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that that women are conditioned to be more passive and you're but you're lining that into what i think is
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you're saying that women are getting essayed because they're more passive and men are physically
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stronger that creates a power dynamic and so um by virtue of men being physically stronger even if a
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woman consents simply by virtue of the man being stronger she was pressured into having sex with the
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man because the man is physically stronger ergo even if she consents to sex the man was physically
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stronger she was pressured into it women are conditioned to be passive essentially if a man
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in any situation is physically stronger than the woman that that's essay i'm just not understanding your
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i don't necessarily consider it essay i think what i'm trying to get is that i think
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what i'm trying to get at is that we are shaped in certain ways and when we have these interactions
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with each other that it forms i'm trying to explain why women have a bad impression of men and i'm not
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trying to put all the blame on the men i'm trying to put explain that part of it comes down to how
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we view our right but you're talking what you're talking about here is like if you're alone in a
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room with a guy and i'm my understanding is if sex occurs you're saying that well if sex occurs
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and the conditions are that women are more passive that's what you're saying and that the man's
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stronger there's a power imbalance therefore the man has the essentially essayed the woman
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is that your position no so what what are you trying to point towards with this with this talk of
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women have been conditioned to be more passive uh
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what what are you alluding to i think it gave a list of examples in ways that men can be
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kind of shaped into these behaviors that are damaging towards women and i i don't want to focus too much on
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the idea of coercion or overlooking soft nose and things like that because i think more of the
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damage comes from things like lying and manipulating women into sex and using them for sex what would
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be an example of lying or manipulating a woman into sex like if a man who worked at mcdonalds said he was
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a lawyer would that be no like giving the impression i mean it would but okay yeah sure um giving the
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impression that you're interested in having a relationship with somebody can't women do that too
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yeah but i i think it happens at a much higher frequency from the male side because there's more
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incentive to if you tie your self-worth to how many women you have sex with and you tie yourself
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worth can i ask you a question sure um do you think i mean that it sounds like there's a cure though
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like immediately it stands out to me that there's a cure now i understand what you're saying at least
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i understand your argument you're saying and and i'll just kind of steel man this to make sure i get it
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it right you're saying listen if society is saying that men's self-worth is much higher based on you
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know how many women they're having sex with then they have an incentive to have sex with more women
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thus lie to more women about wanting to have a long-term relationship in order to have sex with
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them right yeah i would say that's okay well then wouldn't the argument for this be female chastity
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wouldn't female chastity literally cure that problem if women waited till they were married
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to have sex wouldn't that literally cure the problem i don't think necessarily because part of
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the problem is the way that men view women and that also yeah they'd be okay but if they view them as
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thing i want to have sex with if they're just objectifying them right thing i want to have sex with
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and woman goes well you can't have sex till we're married how's that not the cure
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maybe they just want to get married so that they can have sex with the person
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yeah but i mean but if if that is the case then wouldn't that be vastly more preferable
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because you're saying they're lying to women about the wanting to have a long-term relationship with
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them i mean marriage is certainly a long-term commitment i mean i can't think of a more long-term
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commitment than that sure i don't think it's necessarily preferable though because i think a lot of
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women are feeling like they are under undervalued and like they're not being appreciated for who
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they are as a person and only being appreciated for what they have to offer sexually well it seems
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that if a man's willing to marry them they seem to be appreciated for basically everything but if you're
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getting what do they say right it's the old saying if you're getting the milk for free right if you're
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getting the milk for free uh then why buy the cow right so the the question becomes if if that is
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your argument and it does and i did steal manny he said it was male promiscuity they have incentive
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to lie so they can have access to sex okay that's a high status right got it well if that is the
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status then it sounds like female chastity would essentially cure this issue i mean i don't see how it
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wouldn't i don't think it does because i think part of the problem is that women want to be valued for more
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than that yeah but they would be being valued for more than that they would be getting married to men
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right those men would definitely value them or they wouldn't be marrying them right but if they're
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still just marrying them because they want that status of or that access to a woman i don't think
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well i'm sorry i'm sorry let's just assume for a second that like only five percent of them marry
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completely on the condition that that's the only way they can have sexual access wouldn't that still be
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completely superior in every way to modernity that you're talking about right now
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i don't think that a five percent i don't think that would be inaccurate okay let's say it's 50
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percent wouldn't that still be superior to the modernity that you're how would it not so sorry
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in your example or scenario is it like a society where we're not allowed to get divorced it's just
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modern society modern society where you're saying there's a plague of men who will lie to women in
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order to get sexual access and like okay but if they lie to the woman and say hey i love you but i'm
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willing to bury you and take care of you for the rest of your life in order to get access to that sex
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how is that still not superior to the idea that they could just hump you and dump you i don't like
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i don't get that like i suppose that's super you could say that's superior but how do we get there
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and why do you think it's just yeah but but that's not really the question of how we get there we
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first have to establish that that has to be superior to what we now have
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i'm not committed to an answer on that you're not committed to an answer so you don't you think it
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would be inferior that if men were marrying women for access to the sex that that would be an inferior
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system to what we have now or they just lie to them and then bang them and there's no consequences
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whatsoever i don't see why it would be superior if well because they would be in this because
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your your issue is they're lying right so that they can have sex and there's no social repercussions
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and they're lying about wanting a long-term relationship but if they marry you for the
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sex they're definitely committing to a long-term relationship okay okay yeah i see your point with
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that um yeah okay sure so then i go so so then like female chastity which should really be our kind
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of our number one thing we're looking at here right i think i still don't necessarily agree oh
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okay because i think part of the problem is still the fact that women are feeling undervalued
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yeah i get that they may still but you would agree it would be vastly superior right i don't
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necessarily agree because you you marry somebody who just values you for sex and then you're if
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that's the only thing and you're still not feeling valued well what do you think men value women
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for do you think what do you think that they're valuing them for like their credit cards what do you
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think they value women they value women because they want to have sex with them they want them to
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have their children that's the main value that women have to admit like what what what do you think the
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big value is women are bringing to the table absent sex i actually want to know the answer to that
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question this is such a point love and friendship love and friendship you can't you can get friendship
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from men why do you need friendship from women it's friendship with all these extra benefits sharing
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your whole life with somebody having a child with them merging world views sex huh sex so i mean
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so instead of when you're saying friend the distinction between you being a friend with a guy
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and and you having a wife is your wife is your friend who you also have sex with it sounds like
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the value here still seems to be the sex like because you can have all those other conditionals with
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other people but the sex seems to be the thing you are putting a value emphasis i disagree and i don't
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think sex should be the primary value because sex is kind of replaceable i think the the value that
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you get in a relationship is that merging of a like world views what do you bring to the table
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what do i bring to the table yeah in a relationship um i think i bring a unique perspective and i can
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help you live a more fulfilling life you think you're you think men date you because you bring them a
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unique perspective yeah i think i have given my partner a unique perspective and i think okay i think
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i've helped him to start living a more fulfilling life and to and i've led him to being a better person
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doesn't every human being on planet earth have a unique perspective no no they're not no how could
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two human beings not having you unless you're saying all human beings are not unique sure i would say a
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lot of people have you could say down to the there's some differences between people but i think there's a
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lot of overlap and shared world views so you want to be valued so you're one of those um i want to be
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valued for more than just my sexuality right yeah okay what do you want to be valued for what do you
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want to be valued for um yeah i guess that's a good question that i don't have i want to be valued for
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who i am as a person okay but why wouldn't you be valued for who you are as a person and the highest
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value that the man has with you is still the sex i don't get that i still value you as a person i think
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you're great i think you're wonderful this and that but the not having sex thing that's a deal
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breaker that seems reasonable i think i would want to be i don't think i would want sex to be at the
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top of that list why i'm valued for would you want like a woman to value you most for the money would
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i want my woman to value having sex with me more than anything oh it's terrible oh no what would i do
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what would i ever do if a woman only valued it's her top priority having sex with me oh oh it's
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terrible how would i ever get through the day she didn't love my big brain and big mind and she
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only valued sex as her highest priority with i don't know how i could live i don't know maybe that shows
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that's how you value yourself is what for what you have to offer wait i have a question for you
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would you date a guy who uh who lived with his parents yes you would yeah my first boyfriend
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did well he didn't live with his parents yeah you were a little you well you're 29 that was when
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you were 23 so you want to have kids one day yeah okay so you'd be totally cool dating a guy who
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lived with his parents well my prerequisite for having kids because i never wanted kids until my
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current partner was that if we're going to have kids i need to be able to be at home and raise the
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kids because i don't want them raised by the system so you want to be a stay-at-home mom i would try to
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work from home what kind of income you live in don't you live in one of the highest cost of living
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areas in california you said you're from the bay isn't it like we're outside of the bay so it's a
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little lower okay well in any case california is still high cost of living so and you don't want
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to be working so your partner has to work correct yeah okay that is that is the requirement if we're
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to have kids i don't and i don't think that's unreasonable because i think it's important right
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mom so then you look to a man to provide sure okay don't you think that in the same the same way
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you feel about your and i actually think it's a bit of straw men that men only care about sex but
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let's just grant it so the same way that you think men think that about women you think that about
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men you simply look at men as how they can provide for you i don't
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my partner wants to have children and that was the agreement that we had it's like i'm okay with
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having a kid you wouldn't date him you would not date him if he was not able to provide if he didn't
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want kids let's say he did he does want kids and that is the condition so there's a condition
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in order for us to have kids right i wouldn't leave him if he decided like sorry i can't do that
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what if he still wanted to have kids but he couldn't provide i would say sorry i'm not having kids
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kids okay so if men if women are sex objects then men are success objects
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i i'm not valuing him on his success it's the practicality reason for raising a child
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like i don't want to be the kind of person that just has the school system we've been lingering on
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this for too long uh one last thing you'd said that men you take an issue with men lying in order to get
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sex correct so for example a man claiming that he wants long-term commitment but he doesn't
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in order to get sex yeah that would be lying have you ever told somebody you would love them forever
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yes have you told your current partner that yes is it possible something could happen down
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the line where you guys no longer no you think it's impossible that you guys you guys are going to
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stay together okay well you you can agree though right that it's logically possible
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whether you think that it would actually happen it's logically possible like wolverine
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logically possible but it's but wolverine doesn't exist right
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uh let me ask you a question do you think that there are couples out there
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where either the man or the woman has said to their partner i will love you forever yeah and then
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they broke up or got divorced has that happened yeah okay so i mean these are just kind of statements
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of affection that people say to each other okay they're not they're not binding really sure okay so
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if you tell someone i will love you forever that's not like binding you're not obliged to actually love
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them forever even though you've said it sure okay but so your argument is is that well men claim like
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these men say they want long-term relationships but then they end up not or they break up with a girl
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sure okay so like i i'm just trying to understand like men make these uh like comments in an effort to
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what is your actual argument i'm just confused here men lie is that the argument
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not men all of them but enough of them okay so do so women who wear makeup in an effort to be more
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physically appealing to men is that a deception yeah okay are women manipulating men when they say
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they'll take that vow i'll love you forever through sickness and health and then they initiate
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eighty percent of divorces that's a good point i don't think necessarily i think there are people
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that will what if they lie just to secure those resources now securing alimony now securing child
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support yeah and then uh they just said i don't love you my feelings have changed i don't love you
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anymore if that's their their vow if that is their intention when they're marrying the person is that
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like i don't actually have a intention to follow through with you yeah that's wait that's not their
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intention initially but wouldn't that still be a manipulation if because they broke their vow
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so like when they're getting married the person in her mindset who's marrying this man and eventually
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going to divorce him her mind is that i love this man and i'm going to marry him and i want to spend
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the rest of my life with him and i'm not going to leave him and then she gets married to him and then
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she decides later on down the line that she realizes that she doesn't actually love no what i think
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happens i don't know if it's that i think women hit like a certain age they realize oh i want to have
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kids so i wasted my 20s doing whatever now who's around okay this guy will do i want my kids they
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marry him they uh make that vow that vow forever and then their feelings change i'm not in love with
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him anymore so they are like i mean i think yeah you could probably make an argument that that's a similar
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case where the woman is probably not being totally honest with herself about her
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motive with that man manipulating yeah for his resources yeah wait so hold on coming back to this
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so did you say that it would constitute essay if a guy lied to a woman about his intentions
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his romantic intentions in order to get her into bed so he says baby i want to be in a long-term
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relationship with you he fucks her and then dips is that essay i wouldn't i don't i don't know i
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don't know how i feel about that but i would say at the very least it's cruel and it's going to give
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people a false impression i think one of the worst things about essay and why a lot of women say they
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fear it is because that feeling of being completely used and dehumanized and disregarded as a person and
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so when somebody's doing that to you just because they want sex i think it can have a similar impact
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and it's going to impact your worldview of men and it's going to push women into this more radicalized
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position against men okay well so then would it be equally wrong then for a woman to bait a man
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into being physically attracted to her through use of makeup and other cosmetics
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no okay what about women who manipulate men to get money online how about that yeah i think that's
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that's just as bad i think that would be like probably pretty traumatic to be a man and you
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think that a woman wants to be with you and they're giving you all these signs and then
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they just get some money from you and they dip i think that would be equally traumatic
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all right well i do have to uh move things on a little bit here we're going to get to some of
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lizzie notes we got to come back to some of your some video reactions here um
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um let's see and then let's do actually i have two i have one chat here kill of cereal get sun get
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some stay hydrated stay alive live within your means keep life in perspective nurture a skiller
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other than your body never let a strumpet in your bed my best to all oh sevens in the chat kill of
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cereal appreciate it man hope you have a good night so we're gonna actually have another chat coming up
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here we have stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten starting with you go
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hold on chris donated two hundred dollars thank you chris thank you ladies keep fighting andrew
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i wouldn't be able to keep my stable of side chicks if it wasn't women like you cosigning the bs
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that i tell them pump and dump feminists on birth control for life jesus who uh show of hands who's
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on birth control i've got the iud just kidding okay um all right cool uh okay so here i'll just
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since we got semi uh kind of cut off there stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to
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ten ten ten five ten nine two six six uh six okay so we got two tens and the nine uh okay um
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oh oh yeah uh i give myself a five andrew i would say i'm a four okay question for the ten
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and the nine do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years as compared to now okay so you're 25 so
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you'll be better looking at 35 as compared to now 25 for sure yes and you're uh 22 right so better
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looking at 32 than now at 22 let's let's uh double it 20 years better looking at 45 as compared to now at
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25. no i think like late 30s are the real prime late 30s are the prime of women if you take care
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of yourself okay uh still beautiful but not more beautiful okay into the mic into the mic oh um
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i think if i take care of myself and my skin and my health yes okay so the the thing is you got to look
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at this from a view of all else being equal so assuming you could do all those things right now
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and you had all those things right now you had the good skin the good health etc right would you be
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better looking now at 25 as or sorry 22 as compared to 42. you're saying would i look better now than
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compared to yeah that's the question yeah i i feel like yeah better now or yeah better now okay
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all right so wait better at 45 you said brooklyn i'm sorry you said better at 45 no i said what was
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it you no we we both said better at 35 better at 35 okay yeah all right have you guys heard of a thing
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called aging yeah i'm sorry i'm 35 right now and i do not look better than i did at 25 and i'm 36 and
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i don't look better than i did at 26 well i don't drink alcohol and i take care of myself so i have high
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hopes good genes are you on the uh are you on the old soy diet i don't eat soy at all vegan i don't eat
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soy at all that vegan diet no no soy no it's that's very rare for vegans to not encounter soy
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in at least some of their diet i used to eat soy i don't eat soy anymore i have a question have you
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guys ever had any uh cosmetic procedures no you've never had lip filler no brooklyn i swear i just uh
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brooklyn don't lie to me i swear you had a little lip filler i didn't back in the day
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no you had a little lip filler brooklyn i i would tell you if i did come on be honest be honest this
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is it's girls here it's the ladies you're it's the ladies i over i over line my lips no lip filler
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none we're gonna i'm gonna have to investigate your instagram again okay um i just learned nothing no
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okay um the only thing i ever wanted like before i used to want a bbl and i wanted uh i don't want
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it anymore i'm not but this is when i was like 18 i wanted a bbl and i wanted veneers but i don't
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want either of those anymore you wanted and i'm i'm honestly like i think everyone should do what they
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want to do but at the end of the day i'm anti-surgery and i'm anti-filler anti-surgery anti-filler yeah
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there's a little lip filler in here i don't know it looks a little you know what i mean the bottom
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no the top oh no i think the bottom really yeah i don't know brooklyn we're we're doing it
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oh okay all right i don't need to see that uh no lip filler never i know okay you can wear makeup
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wait question when it comes to makeup are you a 10 without makeup i say i'm always a 10. always
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makeup no confidence has to be there you're a 10 if you believe you're like it's it's uh
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it's not necessarily oh my god i'm the best looking woman in the world it's just i'm gonna
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walk around i'm gonna be confident always because why not but isn't that what a 10 you're saying you
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are you're the most attractive woman to walk this earth amongst the other 10s no i just said if you
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give me a scale one through 10 i'm gonna rate myself a 10 why would i lowball myself not be lowballing
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yourself just like honesty looking at i mean that's what we do as women we can gauge and we look
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and we see and you know you can say yeah that woman's prettier than me but oh yes of course
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there's women more beautiful than me well then how would you be a 10 if someone's more beautiful
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because there could be other multiple tens yeah they could be that's what i just said so she's at
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in par with all the rest of the 10 so all the most beautiful women in the world i think it mixes
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with personality too that's not what it's just looks though we're talking about looks yeah i think
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there's multiple tens i think well there can be more than one 10 but you can't be
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like more attractive if you're a 10 you are the most attractive i feel like i'm god's creation
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he did his thing what can i say okay yeah but i'm by your standard god's creation too and i'm not as
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pretty as you that's just that's subjective but that's how you feel about yourself no no that's i think
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how if i were to ask all these men in this room who's prettier you'd be prettier but that would just be
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them like beauty's in the eye beholder but maybe someone would think you're more attractive than me
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well i would question their super i wouldn't question it girl i would just take the compliment
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and run with it i would run i mean she is kind of not i i mean you're certainly self-aware liz
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uh i do think it would be the case if we lined up a hundred or a thousand or a million men and we
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gave them a binary choice between uh and liz love you to death between liz and like uh sure you i think
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a lot of them no offense to liz here just looking at things objectively they i would say vast majority
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of the men would pick you of course and i am still a confident person and i'm not saying i'm not
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pretty and neither is brian but i'm not as pretty as you the two things can exist at the same time
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well yeah i just not going to change my i just don't think but you rated yourself a 10 and you
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rate yourself i think it's fair for her to call herself right it's fair you can call yourself that
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there's nothing wrong with that but i would like to just kind of quickly follow up with a quick
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question that i'm wondering um do you believe that narcissism is a real thing yes and i think i
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have some of that in me for real yeah so i was just going to ask you um just a very quick follow-up
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are you the prettiest woman on planet earth do you think oh absolutely not okay have you ever seen a
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woman prettier than you who's famous absolutely i see beautiful okay can you name one of these pretty
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girls who is famous famous that is prettier than you uh i like ruby rose okay she prettier than you
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yeah okay what are the features that make her prettier than you i just think she has a very
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unique look and as far as i know or like i think she's natural so i i you know i give it up to her
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okay so if she's a 10 if she's a 10 being the highest standard of beauty you can possibly think of
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then where do you place yourself okay so you guys want me to give myself a nine i think you're
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a 10 i think you're a 10 i think i'm just i'm just asking yeah i know i know what you think yeah
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she's a 10 but i just want to finish real quick i don't think all the women in this room are 10s at
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all but i think she based on features has i okay yeah great great i just i just want to know though
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if if this chick ruby okay is a 10 she's the highest standard of beauty you can think of
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then where would you put yourself i understand what you're saying because you're saying if she's better
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than you how are you guys both tense i understand yeah that wouldn't that wouldn't make any sense
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right yeah okay so but i just am not going to go back on my answer of i it just regardless i
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understand you guys are saying oh it's looks it's not personality but i'm if someone tells me to rate
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myself out of 10 why am i going to give myself a lower number no i i totally understand what you're
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saying so yeah i get what you're saying you're saying like um from the perspective of confidence
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building right yeah it would be unrealistic for you as a confident woman to rate yourself as less
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than how you feel like you are which is a 10 which is everything it's beauty and personality and
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everything together right but we're just purely looking at an objective standard which you clearly
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must have because you think that this other girl's prettier than you so she's objectively hang
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on hang on so if she's objectively a 10 where would that put you i guess that would put me as a
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nine but i'm gonna still sit here like if we had to do that you know i'm like okay fine but i just
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if someone's gonna ask me a one through ten i'm gonna give myself a 10 no matter what no matter what
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just because even if i didn't look the way i did and i looked another way even like all of you guys like
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it makes me i mean i know they're all dense i yes i would i would hope that you guys would all
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feel like you're a 10 is there any girl in that room who's prettier than you i think we're all
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beautiful is there any girl in that room who's prettier than you i'm gonna get it up to my sister
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but wait andrew okay okay hang on hang on so if your sister so then if your sister's a 10
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what does that make you so fine i guess we're all nines but i just like i'm saying wait you can't all be
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nines if you're the prettiest girl in the room and you rate yourself a nine then you'd have to rate at
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least other girls in eight right i didn't ever say i was the prettiest girl in the room
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okay are you the prettiest girl in the room i didn't no i didn't say that yeah i know but are you
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no okay who is i i think my sister is beautiful okay so she's the prettiest girl in the room
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but so that would be less pretty thing on so that would mean you're less pretty than her
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so if she's a 10 then that would make you a what she could be a 10 too but we could both be 10
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but it's just like i think my sister's most beautiful just off the fact that she's my
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sister and i know her and i'm in her face every day and also gonna give it up to her for being a
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natural woman i just look at her with so much love that i like if i'm looking around and i see beauty
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it's she's the first person i look at but that's just okay if your sister is a 10 if your sister is a
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10 in comparison to all the other girls in the room where would where would that put them
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um okay just so like we don't have to go on with this conversation because i feel like i've already
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said my example you're absolutely low of answering questions in an honest way i'm just i'm just it's
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like it's not gonna you're not gonna let it go so if say if i say my sister's the prettiest in the
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room she's a 10 and then fine then the rest of us can be nines does that work well that still wouldn't
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work because then who would the second prettiest so then every so then in so you then everyone
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would have to go down one number correct well no so here's how it would work then i'll explain if
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she's a 10 and you that i would just ask you are you the the second prettiest girl in the room no then
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who is i don't here i i do need to start moving things along a little bit here but i got a little
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bit on this so you said that all women are tens or should i would hope that all one of all women when
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they get asked a question like that i hope that they could feel about i feel i wish i could feel like
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a 10. you think it should be the same for men too are all men tens i think when men feel and act as
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they're tens they're more pleasant to be around than just being like really yeah just because
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it's just how you carry yourself at the end of the day a confident man is i would take a compliment
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a confident man that's not as good looking as a super good what if he's not confident and he's
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just delusional you don't know any guys who think they're hot shit but they're not of course definitely
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but isn't that good for them but good for them i feel like you don't clown dudes like that i don't i
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don't sit up in their faces and i don't entertain them but good for them if you feel good about
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yourself this is your life ten i i mean you can't be for everybody that's a time okay so not but are
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are all men tens if they feel like that i can't tell someone what they are okay that's why i can't
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sit up in here and say oh you're this you're that you're that i'm not well it's interesting because
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you said so you said that well all women should view themselves i would hope they would did you
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say that all the way you think all the women here are tens yeah okay well this is something
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that's interesting to me so i think it's the case that more women than men will reject hierarchies
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so basically like if we're looking at capitalism for example so this is what gets you every girl is
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a ten and participation trophies everybody's a winner everybody's special this is what gets you
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common this is what gets you communism this whole this is how communism actually started this is how
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communism started is women were like we're all fucking hotties we're all bad bitches we're all tens
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everyone gets a trophy and then you know women are they're overwhelmingly vote for leftist politicians
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and policies you know i think that's the origination of communism really because you reject hierarchies
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i just think if i were to sit here and say oh you're reject hierarchy i just think if i were to
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sit here and say you're a four you're a two i think that would drop me from a 10 to a piece of
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shit well honestly i got because i just yeah but i mean we're not really looking for
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but you just asked me who's the best looking i'm not gonna do that like yeah i understand i'm just
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saying i think that that women will often do this a lot too where when you're asking the question you're
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just basing it on physical beauty right you're not basing it on anything except the physical
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and i think how often women will say well wait there's a package that comes with this what about
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the personality what about the other external traits this type of thing uh but that's really
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not what the question is alluding to is what's on the inside just it's purely uh the perspective of
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what's on the outside that's what the question is alluding to that's why you can say that there's
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other people who you've seen objectively who you think are prettier than you that makes sense to me
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yeah and i'm just like my stance is i would not sit here and tell a girl she's a four i just wouldn't
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but but can you admit that there could be women in the room who you do think are for that you just
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wouldn't say it but you do think no i'll just say this fuck it i'm just throwing it out there
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there's no tens and nines in the room tonight that's it for you
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okay oh shit okay you want you want to squabble over this not a nine not a ten not a ten no i'm
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sorry y'all are lovely i love you guys great personalities
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no no no sorry not nine not a ten not a ten sorry just throwing it out there your perception isn't
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reality though well and it could be vice versa exactly exactly i agree it's okay i'm just like i'm
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a mid but then every but you have to know too every person would don't feel bad someone if we
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lined up a hundred women and they all rated you they wouldn't have you want to have the same number
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across the board actually interestingly enough i just want to let you know have you ever heard of the
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idea of the collective vote actually being more accurate it's it's actually a strange phenomenon so
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if you were to take a cow for instance and there's experiments done on this i don't remember exactly
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what the terminology is for it but if you take a cow at a county fair dylan lolly donated 200
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late 30s you mean when you can only give us one kid that's high risk 18 to 24 with thank you dylan
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go go ahead andrew yeah so if you were to take a cow at a county fair and you ask each individual to
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guess at the weight right um most of them will get it wrong but then if you average all their answers
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you actually get really close to whatever the truth is that's what you what's interesting about
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that experiment so the same thing would likely happen if you line brian up and you had women
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honestly rate him across the board i think you're right you would get buried answers some would say
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maybe a six a couple would say ten uh two might say eight and then you know a bunch say four and then
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if you averaged up all those answers i bet that you would come to the conclusion that what brian rates
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himself at as i think you said a five right yeah or six or whatever i think that you would end up
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hitting really close to a five i or you know i think that that would probably end up being the
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average well that's the average but that's still not and like if you're lining up a bunch of women
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it's not well what it alludes to is that there might be some objective standard here that we're all
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utilizing right i'm just saying that say a few people think he's a 10 like you're not going to convince
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and that no no i i agree with that but what i'm saying is you can sit here and say oh you guys
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you're not this you're not that and it's like okay well to you you know but there must be an objective
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standard uh to some degree because otherwise how could people guess collectively very close to what
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the cow is right basically what all of them are saying is i associate your the cow being big with weight
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and so i'm going to guess higher because i associate that objective standard of weight as being true
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right so they're able to guess with some accuracy there must be some objective standard that they're
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appealing to the same thing must be true with beauty if we come to kind of the same similar
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conclusion across the board wait i got to come in on something really quick on this so like you said
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some girls would call me a 10 here's the crazy thing is i'm so sure i'm not a 10 i would call them
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retarded if they called me a 10. i know i'm not supposed to say that but i would tell the girl
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bro are you i would look at her like call me a 10 right now go ahead do it go ahead are you
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retarded are you okay you want to talk to a doctor what's up see that's what i would do and because i
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think as men we never receive compliments and i almost feel this would be more of a common occurrence
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in women because y'all get bombarded with like simps and dudes complimenting you all the time your
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girlfriend's gassing you up men rarely receive compliments but even i'm self-aware enough to be like
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this person's just trying to flatter me there's no world where some chicks like yeah man brian with
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the dad bod and the kind of you know he's got a bit of rosacea and he's got a little dandruff
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he's a 10 bro no it ain't happening son it ain't happening but i feel like girls you're more better
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attuned to when a dude's trying to flatter you you know when guys are trying to flatter you so wouldn't
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you almost be more aware of somebody actually women like don't even like really when guys compliment
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y'all because you know they're trying to hit you know they're trying to hit so wouldn't you be more
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attuned to the fact these guys are just like when they if they call you a 10 they're like it's kind
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of bullshit they're just trying to hit you know well yes because men are very ejaculate evacuate
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that's what they're trying to do yeah well i think ejaculate evacuate okay sorry is that your model
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he said that's a real right there listen listen i prefer long-term relationships okay
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i like to ejaculate and stay there for a couple months preferably at least a couple months do you
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are you more monogamous or you like to swing um swing huh or be i'm a one girl i'm a one girl
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kind of guy okay if you and me were dating all it's a wrap on the other there's no other first
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off there's no other chicks there's no other chicks wrap on the other chicks okay okay so yeah
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you ejaculate and you stay there for a couple months until she starts nagging you and then you
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just you know find a different girl i'm kidding it's not sure so no nagging huh no nagging no nagging
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i don't like quarrelsome women proverbs 21 19 better to live in a hold on let me start let me start over wait
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proverbs 21 19 better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife boom quoted
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where are we i need to get to liz here liz has been dying she's ready okay you ready liz yes i need
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andrew's help here i'm going to start with your disagreement then i'll get into some of your other
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stuff so that might be you had a disagreement and it's actually good i was trying to figure out and
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so i'm actually just uh andrew's going to be my champion on this argument hopefully uh so you said
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that hold on by the way it's nice to see you again welcome back to whatever nice to see you
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you said i think it is hypocritical brian that you have openly admitted that you're traditional in some
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ways and degen and others yet you lay into your female guests for picking and choosing
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in what ways they would like to be traditional you say it is not fair that a woman expects you to pay
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if she's not traditional yet if you were on a date with a traditional woman you expect her to sleep
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with you within the first few dates and you you refuse to marry her does this mean that you can pick
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and choose your values but the women on your show cannot and why i love that
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so i then it stumped me for a little bit and it stumped me and actually i came up with this four
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dimensional just ninja chess response but we got andrew here my champion and you know look
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i look i came up with the the most smoking gone owned rebuttal to this but because i'm feeling
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generous and andrew's our special guest i'm just going to get up for a few minutes and let andrew
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take it away andrew go ahead all right so um so first uh maybe we can condense the argument here um
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just so i understand it better can just in your own words can you sure can you explain it to me so
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i oh gosh now i have to think about what i said back in april okay um
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he and ryan seems to dislike picking and choosing but then he also picks and choose like he can you
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can't have both so you can't have a chased woman that will sleep on you sleep will sleep on you sleep
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with you that same night like that those two things i don't think are synonymous that wouldn't make any
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sense to me like where would you find that woman you know um why i don't understand that though why
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couldn't you have a chased woman sleep with you the same night i just don't think that would be
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the typical personality or the typical choice the chased woman would make i think she would want to
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vet yeah i mean i agree that i would think that a woman who valued chastity probably wouldn't sleep
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with you on the first night but i don't see why you couldn't have a chased woman who did you could
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i just don't think it's likely so i don't think that you can and andrew brian can come on here and
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you know say rightly so that he thinks it's wrong for women to be promiscuous and then expect
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promiscuous behavior from those women oh i see it's the it's so you're talking about the homemaker
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argument yeah so the the homemaker argument goes something like this um and you tell me if i'm on
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track here you men are out there being promiscuous and the more women you sleep with the more hoes
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you're making because you're sleeping with those women so at the one hand you have the standard
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that um women should not be promiscuous while you're out there sleeping with women which by the
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the way is the outcome of making them promiscuous right well i think women make themselves promiscuous
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but well then i don't know what the argument is i think a woman would make herself promiscuous if
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she slept with a man on the first night and if yeah i i don't think that brian would disagree with
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it but brian expects women to sleep with him on the first or even the second date but that would still
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more or less be promiscuous behavior so you can't you can't yeah champion so actually well actually i don't
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actually see a contradiction here i think i understand where you see one so you're seeing
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the idea that brian doesn't prefer promiscuous women but yet wants a woman to sleep with him
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almost immediately uh in their dating cycle right right but what's the country but but what's the
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contradiction because that in itself to me implies promiscuous that is a promiscuous action that she's
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taking and a no he could have a he could have a virgin that he meets and she sleeps with him on the
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second night happens he can have a he can have a woman that only has a one body count or two body
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counts sleeps with him on the second second night that's not promiscuous at all i don't actually
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understand what the contradiction is so like i like let me put it this way let's say let's say my
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position is i don't like promiscuous women but i'm not going to date you unless we we're having sex
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right those two are not mutually exclusive claims so i can still not value women who are promiscuous and
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still want women who sleep with me almost immediately that doesn't mean that they're
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promiscuous right but who is more likely to sleep with you immediately oh i would say the promiscuous
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woman but so what she's a slut and she knows it well yeah i knew that already but um i just think in
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practice it doesn't it's kind of a confusing confusing double message like it doesn't make
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sense to me that it seems to be encouraging the very culture that you don't well i should i suppose
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i should jump in here unless andrew you have you want to champion yeah i just i just want to kind
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of finish this off um i i don't i don't understand how it's actually a contradiction to say i don't value
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promiscuity in women right but then also want to have sex with women early on who are not promiscuous
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right wouldn't that be like you get the goods first like you were the first person who got the orange
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right before everybody else handled it like isn't that isn't that kind of the point but we tend to
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speak on this podcast with generalities and in general i would say that a chaste non-promiscuous virgin
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the likelihood of you finding what you want and having her sleep with you on the first day which
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i will acknowledge may have happened but the percent chance of that being likely is very low
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but don't you wait a second if we're speaking in generalities then i think that you have the problem
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here because wouldn't you agree that what are called or quote high status men are often going after
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the women with the very very low body counts and they often get them because they're high status
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men and in general most men are not high status men and so if they're in the category of i don't
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know having like the second largest irl podcast on planet earth um oh and uh you know all the
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entailments which come with that i'm not sure if it is but i'm just saying if it is um wouldn't that
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wouldn't that kind of already make you outside of this kind of general theme of what most men are
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like couldn't you afford to be a little bit more selective and with uh with your taste couldn't you
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kind of afford to have that kind of caviar taste uh because you no longer have the the uh the beer
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budget right of course but i would expect brian to live what he says outside of this podcast and i
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don't think sleeping with women on the first night is living to the standards that he purports to think
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are best for society well it seems like he thinks what's best for society is that women are chased
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right if women are chased then brian doesn't have a choice does he
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well i think well actually by your standard of what you think we ought to do brian wouldn't have
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a choice he'd have to marry somebody to have that's right he would wouldn't he and also that would just
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take all that choice right away it sounds like that would be a positive outcome for society doesn't
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it yeah and i think so it sounds like if you follow brian's advice and you're all chased
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right and women are not giving it up then um it seems like brian wouldn't have much of an option
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anyway right correct but if the option is available for low body count women and his preference is to
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sleep with them early on i still don't actually understand where the contradiction is because i think
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if he's a man that stands on the principles that he encourages he should not sleep with a woman
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what do i well what do i encourage i think you encourage people to well now i think you're
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considering orthodoxy which would you're either gonna have to choose between being a monk or
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picking a woman well i mean look i agree with you that brian shouldn't be a degenerate and sleep with
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a bunch of chicks okay i agree with that i agree with that shit that's the okay so that's my one
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backstab of the evening for my friend okay he shouldn't be a degen and sleep with a ton of
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shit i agree with but i don't okay okay but he doesn't right that's true but i'm just saying
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he shouldn't do that if that is what he's doing and i do think that he doesn't value promiscuity in men
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but just because he says you know maybe he's one of those types of guys that dates many many many women
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until he finds one he's going to have a physical relationship with and if he expects that to be
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early on seems like a reasonable preference i'm not sure that it's an unreasonable preference
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i suppose it could be a reasonable preference i just don't think it's a likely preference given
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his other preferences of what the kind of woman he would prefer i don't think that that kind of woman
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overall well maybe that's why he's not sleeping around because the preference is unlikely right but
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still available you know what i mean like there are women with low body counts who may still be
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available to brian he still may prefer to sleep with them early on there's no actual contradiction there
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though i agree from a moral standpoint yeah he should you know he shouldn't be a fucking dj i
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agree with that okay i agree with that he shouldn't do the djed shit that i agree with so i think in your
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original statement there's definitely some perhaps uh i don't think you have a full understanding here so
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i don't in terms of expect uh i don't necessarily expect a woman to sleep with me on the first date but
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i don't object to it either don't object to it either but also i'm not interested in like sleeping
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with uh two new women a week three new women a week like if here's my thing right if i want to sleep
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with a girl i want there to be continuity so if i sleep with a girl even if it's very early on i've
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already made a determination that i want to continue seeing her there's going to be a continuity
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absent some like i sleep with her and then she just like goes full psycho she would have to do
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something like it wouldn't be on me like i you know if i sleep with her and then i'm just gonna dip
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but she would have to like do some crazy shit like i don't know fucking start crying and like oh i miss
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my husband i'd be like oh you're married okay that's a problem yeah i can accept that but something
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crazy like that but if i choose to sleep with a girl there's going to be continuity i'm going to
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continue seeing her i've never been interested in these guys who just fuck a girl once and that's it
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no i'm going to continue seeing you but she even though you're saying that and i believe you that
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she does not necessarily know that so and from her perspective she probably want to vet you and be
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like oh is he really going to stick around without the sex first well then i would ask what's her
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standard been for all the previous men she's slept with because then i'm going to feel like
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it's unfair treatment and i could totally understand that and i i could totally understand
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that but and i would understand why you wouldn't go for those women but i think the women you're going
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for i think you should make more um compromises in that respect to be willing to wait a little
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longer for a quality woman i mean i would be willing to wait like look you can you can wait however
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long you want it's just going to ultimately be a mismatch in terms of what we're looking for
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and it's best we just go our separate ways you want to wait three months i don't i'm not interested
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in especially if she's had like previous sexual partners and they didn't wait now i'm going to feel
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like a sucker yeah and i don't want to feel like i don't want to be a sucker and i would if i was your
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like friend and we were just chatting i would totally under i would say yeah do that but but so
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and here's the thing right when it comes to like a woman can have a low body count but otherwise choose
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she's like i like this guy he's the one i'm interested in pursuing he seems like he's not
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i mean some women get played for sure like the guy will say oh yeah i want a long-term relationship
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have sex with her and ghost her that happens totally get it but that's not at least for me i mean
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that's not what i'm about right so like i said i want there to be a continuity uh but when it comes
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to women not having a high body count so as a woman you can like i think the bigger indicators
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of like racking up a high body count wouldn't be necessarily how quick you sleep with the guy
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it's what's the context and environment so okay like my recommendation of women if you want to
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make sure that this guy's gonna stick around i think it's far less i mean waiting can certainly
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help weed out dudes but also if there's alcohol involved that's a bad idea like that's more likely
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to lead to uh on both ends like it just being viewed as like a one-time thing or casual so if
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there's alcohol involved you met in a party type environment so rave bar nightclub etc not a good
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venue to meet somebody um if you're traveling okay immediately that's created a conflict in terms of
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uh one of the big things is like proximity and convenience to making something work not to
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say that long-term relation excuse me long-distance relationships can't work but if you're in europe
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for a week and you fuck a dude like the chances of that becoming a long-term relationship very unlikely
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likewise if you live in a city and some hot european dude's there for a week you probably shouldn't
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fuck him that you're just you just racked up a body it's not going to be a long-term relationship go
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ahead as i will say this um like in the spirit of ultimate good faith i'm going to concede the
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argument to you because i think you have the the better end of the argument um perhaps the first l
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i've taken on whatever podcast but i give a full concession brian what yeah gotta stop being a
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fucking dj i'm not a teacher you can't do it bro you gotta i gotta concede the argument here she's
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totally right no i can't i can't i can't do it i gotta concede it's not dgen though it's not dgen
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i'm not like trying to like i said i'm not trying to fuck like three new girls a week
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i'm interested in long-term relationship but in a long-term relationship i'm not waiting until marriage
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so by the orthodox standards that you're thinking about would that right no no no no no let's not
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go into all that okay first for let's not scare brian off immediately okay but the thing is is that
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okay i'll make the concession to you if you're at least if you're moving towards um towards i think a
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long-term relationship when it comes to the physical relationship that that is far better in society than
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just going around and being a promiscuous you know this type of thing but i i just i can't man
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like the concession here is it's still bad you shouldn't do it i mean that's well if the ultimate the
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ultimate is waiting until marriage then sure it's from that world view it's bad but like i think the
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way i move is leaps and leaps and bounds what is it leaps and bounds thank you thank you alicia
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is leaps and bounds less degen than like one of these guys who are saying i'm gonna fuck three
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three new girls a week i'm gonna go to the club fuck a chick within 30 minutes meeting her alcohol
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is going to be involved all this stuff so i'm not waiting until marriage but i'm also not trying to
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like run through every chick fuck him once never talk to him again if i have sex with a girl i am
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pursuing that girl for long term there's no for me it's a waste of time i'm not interested in sleeping
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with the girl and it's honestly a liability it's not i'm not interested in sleeping with a girl once
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and never talking to her again doesn't interest me but like for my stepdaughter for example how i
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would advise her i wouldn't advise her to assume that most men are like you unfortunately i would
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advise her to assume that most men are like what you discussed they're gonna they might yeah especially
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when they're younger um so she's 10 now so i'm thinking like maybe when she's 10 years from now
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or so and she's you know thinking about this god i hope it's 10 years from now anyway um i would not
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advise her to expect that i wouldn't say that's the typical treatment she's gonna find so i would
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encourage her to wait generally all the time even if she meets you because she doesn't know who you are
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i just that's fair yeah that's well that's the point yeah that's the point of the argument i
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couldn't get past and why i had to concede to it so the point of the argument i can't get past is
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um the idea that you i think brian in the like the spirit of good faith i have to say this would
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recommend to a girl not to sleep with you essentially to not sleep with you wait well
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fuck so we're just gonna we're gonna we're gonna interpose a different man who's not brian
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but she goes on a date with that man uh you know and and within a couple of weeks we're sleeping
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together and he says he wants a long-term relationship wouldn't the general recommendation
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from you be not to sleep with that guy if the woman came to you that's like that's
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why i think i gotta concede the argument hmm let me think this through
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i'm different okay i'm just andrew i'm different okay are you a unique person i'm listen i'm not
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like those other guys i'm not like those other guys i'm not like those i'm not like those other guys
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okay first off and uh but the other thing is is like
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these these they've already fucked you know you know what i mean
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you know like a lot of look the virgins are rare right so it's like okay bro they've got a couple
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bodies they had a couple one-night stands it's like come on bro oh now you want me to wait three
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months get the fuck out of here bro get the fuck out of here okay look no you can change up you
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could you could have smashed 100 dudes in a month hold on wait hold on let me finish my you could have
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had sex with 100 dudes in a month within 10 minutes of meeting them and then 24 hours later
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you uh you have a change of heart i'm waiting till marriage you can do that as a woman i would just look
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at that and be like damn that's a bad deal okay but i'm good for society though it is a better deal
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because now instead of choosing to continue with the degenerate behavior and just always be the same
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person which is what you'd prefer she's choosing okay i'm going to be a different person now and i'm
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going to wait till marriage that is the better choice for society to change and to not be the same
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and you may not accept that that and that's okay but that doesn't change that her choice is better to
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change yeah but you know this is kind of a fantasy land we're talking about here you know
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yeah a little bit maybe you know it would be better for you know it'd be better for society if there
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wasn't war we should just end that we should we should end that silly thing of war you know we should
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end so by your standard should i just continue remain yeah i don't think that's the tough that's
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where i get that's where uh you know it's tough there and even if i knew that no man would ever
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date me and not not you or anybody else and i was single single i still wouldn't well the answer is
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the answer is no the answer is no you shouldn't and you know that you shouldn't and you know that
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every new d equals one less value point right if this is an rpg you're gaining no new experience so
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it's like the answer would have to be no and the thing is is um i think i can argue the point from
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the position that it's not hypocritical it's not and it's not a uh in any way contradiction it's not
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however i do think that um i do think that the advice which would be given would uh like i you know
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i kind of gave my position there and so now you know what happened you know what just happened right
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now is that so i have kind of this golden rule right if if you're at a bar with a friend and
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other guys come up and they start fight it doesn't really matter if your friend instigated it or not
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you get up and you go with your friend right that's that's the way it works and um i feel like this this
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time i didn't get up at the bar and that's so that's an l for andrew i had to concede i i don't
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i don't have anything for this anyways let's i gotta get through the rest of the notes for lizzie here then
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we gotta get back into these two girls videos because they got some great clips you guys got
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great clips we're gonna get to them i honestly should have did my homework before coming on i
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didn't know that this was gonna happen what do you mean that we would be reacting to your clips yeah
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no it's good though you guys got good clips don't worry thank you we do just for the sake of time
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though when we do get to the clips we got to do like two minute commentary max that's good with me
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that's good so don't argue with me we already talked about this last time the labia thing you
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don't like the whole labia thing anyways we talked about it last time i think you've got to
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get on board of my non-profit organization listen we we're trying to help we're trying to help women
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a lot of women are insecure about their large labia in fact i have some i get dms multiple times
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a week from women saying i've never heard a guy talk about this i've never heard a guy say he likes
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wizard sleeves i've never heard that shit and they're like you are my spirit animal they're
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telling me this shit these women are telling me brian you have i was gonna cut my shit off i was
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gonna get a labiaplasty i was gonna spend 10k on the surgery go under the knife and i heard you so
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passionately advocating for my pussy lips that they i talked them out i didn't talk them out but they
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decided not to get the surgery and i think that's great beautiful i am doing a service to okay
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but i think you're also doing a service to yourself yes yes yeah yeah yes he has his cape on what the
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fuck save the day it's a wizard slave get it right and now they're like you should get a
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they want to show you they're like big lady matter hashtag big lady look i'm just saying i only date women
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with large labia how do you know you just ask them straight up like you got a smaller big one
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literally literally that was my game back in the day i'd walk up to a girl before tinder and
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shit be like yo what's up any rowdy i'm just kidding i never said that shit how do you feel
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about a woman asking about your sizing right away i tell them the truth and what's the truth what you
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want i'll tell you what i'll tell you you but you gotta tell me what the any rowdy status is of the
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the table right now sorry andrew put earmuffs earmuffs andrew okay go ahead
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oh no i'm not gonna okay we're not gonna say it look i'm just saying look i a lot of my advocacy
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has made women empowered and confident and secure in
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you know i think that's wonderful i'm sure you're very excited for society it's a beautiful it's a
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beautiful thing you know one labiaplasty is too much on my watch and i have i i've because of the
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advocacy i've done on this program women have dm'd me and said i was going to get a labiaplasty but i
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choose not to okay you've created your own dating app yeah oh no it's not come on guys all right
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anyways um but seriously ladies i it's a it's a tragedy that these women feel insecure about their
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labia i don't think i don't think anybody should be being shamed for the way they were the born naturally
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like men if you have a small peepee it's okay you know you shouldn't be shamed you shouldn't be
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shamed agreed and there's too much small peepee shaming in fact there's average peepee shaming
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that's also not cool let's be let's be nice to the men with average and teeny peepees okay that's
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right for those of us hung like a stud hamster we need that kind of benefit in society
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yeah i will also say for the record that i've actually had very good carnal knowledge with men
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that did have um small yeah there you go that so carnal knowledge yeah
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but a lot of these women they're insecure it's sad it's very sad it's very sad and i'm the only guy
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talking about this i'm the i'm literally the only i'm the spearhead of this movement and i think it's a
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fucking tragedy that women get shamed if they have large labia and you know look there's a lot of
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misconceptions doesn't mean that they've had you could be a virgin and have largely because they
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think oh if it looks like an arby sandwich then that's their words not mine i would never refer to
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it as arby's they say that they think you got your back blown out too hard yeah but that's not true
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that's not how anatomy works not how it doesn't mean you you're you're salooning it up doesn't
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mean that anyways got to move it on okay you said you went on a blind date with uh oh tell us the
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vampire story 30 seconds go okay uh i went on a date with the guy he told me he died seven times
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was a vampire i was like you're full of shit and i didn't go on a second date you said not wanting
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to date me because i'm ran through is also completely understandable and fair yeah and you said
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your uh what was the body count again 100 to 120 can i ask i just want to let you know um when we
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first the first time i engaged with you that was like shocking and stunning to me because it was early
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on in my i guess whatever podcast career but um that's not even that bad by some of the standards now
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that i've heard it's like it's it's kind of low it's kind of low compared to what a lot of these
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checks have insanely enough that's very sad and i include myself in that uh okay wait hold on uh
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things to clear up from your previous appearance you said you uh oh those things aren't i don't know
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if they're relevant anymore you said you do genuinely feel like you do not qualify for princess
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treatment princess treatment because you're not princess however your man still spoils you
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in many ways and provides princess treatment and you're very grateful yes okay uh you also said that
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uh one of the ways i knew that my man was the one for me was in the first gift he ever gave me oh yeah
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so um we were very very like very first dating and for a while we just spoke on the phone um because he
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was kind of far away so we'd speak a lot on the phone and this is not advised but i i had just
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gone through a major breakup i was really upset and i had this silly moment at my house that i was renting
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at where i couldn't i couldn't open a jar and i was like oh my god i don't have a man and now i can't
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open jars it's so sad and so i shared this with him i was opening up in which i don't recommend
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talking about your exes with your but i did and so um his first gift to me was a jar opener and so
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that showed me that even if we don't work out he really cares and he wants to you know it's a small
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thing but i thought it was nice no i see that i honestly it's the thoughtful gifts like oh you're
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really paying attention to what i say and what i desire yeah so liz i got more no
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what what is it andrew nothing but i'm taking back my concession because i've been thinking about
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this because it's it's driving me nuts now right i don't i don't like to concede on arguments i really
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hate it so i've been sitting here thinking about this is it your position brian that a woman it's okay
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for a woman to sleep with a guy if she's trying to build something with him yeah of course that's
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okay yeah i guess then if that's the position and that's what you're advocating yeah then it seems
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like what he's pushing out to what he wants to the behavior of society is completely consistent
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with that position but how can you know that he wants to build something with you on that very first
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state yeah but but but the thing is is it assumes right we're this immediately assumes i want to
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build x with you or i'm not sleeping with you so if it assumes that i don't want to build x with you
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unless i'm sleeping with you and that's also the advice that he's giving out to men which is just don't
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don't sleep with a woman and women don't sleep with men unless you're building something together
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yep then that actually does seem consistent boom checkmate well well done andrew vanquished
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sorry go ahead you conceded the point before uh you can't walk it back andrew that's true okay
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that look that's true you did get the first you got the first concession on an argument ever uh for me
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i had to concede because man that it was it was very compelling clip of the chip about it a little
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bit more and now it's less compelling i didn't get to finish that because you conceded before
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i now see the logic of what you're saying so i will also concede the point that is a good
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point oh look okay but the second concession negates the first concession which means you
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concede and i don't well i was expecting that to happen anyway so sure but i i appreciate the
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good faith exchange it was a lot of fun going back to you lizzie you said that women should uh what
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about nerds oh i i really i think i think a lot of women don't consider nerds and they should
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because they are in my experience which has been vast i've pretty much only dated nerds i like nerds
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they are smart they are passionate about the things they like they work hard they tend to get into careers
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that are lucrative and um you know will always be needed um and they tend to be humble which is
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another thing i definitely value so i think try out nerds you said creative too oh yes and creative
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yes in which ways i don't know if you recall saying you said inside the bedroom oh yes yes well you know
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they tend to be very creative in all realms really you you also said what about the tradesmen tell us
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about the tradesmen oh yes um tradesmen are also a great choice because if you think about it like
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you know if i'm looking for a husband and well i i i found my husband but if i was a contractor is a
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great option because if you guys have a house you are going to save exponentially a he's always going to
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have work b he's going to know how to fix a lot of the stuff around the house you're going to save on
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that um c he's probably a humble man who's willing to work and support his family that that's not
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always the case but i think that that tends to happen and i also i just think it's it's a better
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career than you know you're always going to need an electrician a plumber you know all these things so
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i think that they're great and i think that most people including women i would not advise to go to
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college i would advise to go to trade school because it is better it is more cost effective it's a better
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choice all around shorter time yes exactly that too oh you you have a story the story oh no okay
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um you said that your man is the head of our house uh he's the leader of our house because he earned it
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yeah it's not because he's a man and he has a pp it's because he works the hardest and he sacrifices
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the most and he's the one that i know if something horrible was happening i mean i'd be willing to
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protect the house too but i know i know that he would um he would protect us all and he would take
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a bullet for me and his daughter and his family so he's not just the leader because of his gender
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he's a leader because of his actions and you said that you're are you still a member of his of
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andrew tate's i am cobra university yep is that what it's called i think so university yes i thought
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it was hustlers universe oh it is it has the cobra image oh okay so you said um going back a little
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bit here you said you're liberal you you're a liberal from berkeley you're raised by a hippie dad
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and a british mother uh you don't think a person could have been raised more liberal that being said
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you support the tate brothers because you believe they're wrongly imprisoned a while okay um you also
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said that uh i don't know if you're pitching their program uh the tate program we don't have to do that
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uh well um but you you said that you're very grateful for andrew tate's teachings yeah i don't
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like everything that he says okay um but obviously you know i don't like most of what every i mean i
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respect and unlike andrew but i don't like everything he says you know but i think that i find value in
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strong masculinity because i think that even though i'm a woman i can still stand to be stronger i could
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still stand to earn more money i could still stand to go to the gym more and i've done all those things
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thanks to a lot of andrew tate's advice and then moving on here you said are you uh religious no i'm
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not no you said i'm gonna give if you guys want to engage on this i'll give you guys five minutes you
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and andrew uh you said god is a man-made concept used to enforce morality as are all religions i believe
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jesus was a real man but he was not the son of god as god is not real your words not mine you guys
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andrew is this something you want to bite on is this something oh yeah right on yeah absolutely
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but let me just uh let's do uh it's 10 10 15 now you guys have four minutes 10 20 go ahead
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okay so let's start just very quickly the concept that god is made up right okay and um that's that's
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actually a way more powerful claim then you're not sure you realize that right yeah i mean technically
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i'm not sure because i think that's the most logical so then if you're not sure you're conceding that there
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could be a god there could be but the percent chance that the being that they describe in the bible is real
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or any other religious book i think is not likely no yeah okay so so then you're not an atheist you're
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an agnostic yes you're saying it could be true correct okay gotcha let me ask you this do you
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believe that the laws of logic are real i actually don't know what all the laws of logic are well so
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like for instance the let's just take the law of identity you can't be the person next to you and
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the person next to you can't be you you have to be you and only you can be you correct yes okay and
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that can is that always true or is that a man-made construct i'm pretty sure that's always true well
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if it's always true that's really really strange right why would it why how could you have a thing
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which does not exist but is always true how could that be possible
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three minutes i'm not sure how to end but i don't think that god is not always real because
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not everyone believes he's real so by that logic what does that have to do with anything so it doesn't
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matter if you believe that the law of identity is real it's still real right right but that i don't
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think that works for god unfortunately well oh you don't think that that works for god no because
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i don't think that there's some man in the sky that's gonna rain frogs down and what do you mean
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a man in the sky your conceptualization of god is very bizarre here but let's just stick back with the
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the idea of these metaphysical truths like the law of logic is mathematics something which is
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discovered or is it something which you invent i think it's something invented to describe a reality
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and that reality is what is if i have two oranges in this hand and two oranges in this hand i have
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four oranges the reality is so two plus two always equals four whether or not your mind is present to
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perceive that that's true yes so these things are true regardless they're mind independent right
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yes so if these things are are not created by man but rather exist instead as a metaphysical
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conceptualization of truth how is that possible absent a creator
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so you're saying because we have mathematics we have a creator we have no no no no i'm saying that if
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there's if there's transcend if there's transcendental truths i'm trying to this is a wide concept i don't
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have a lot of time so i'm just trying to break it down very quickly right if there's transcendental
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truths meaning there are truths which exist right outside of the mind how is that possible if you
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are claiming that truth is mind dependent wouldn't that allude to there being a mind
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i'll be honest this is getting very heady for me and i'm having a hard time following
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um well it's just to make it to condense it to condense it super easy okay if if like you say
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everything is subjective and mind dependent then how can you have things which are true even absent the mind
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well because math is just the words we chose to describe so like what about the laws of logic like
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the law of identity which is always true no matter what's always true it can't be human construct it
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has to be objectively true if that's true and you're saying everything is mind dependent but this would
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still be true even absent a mind wouldn't that allude to the fact that there's another mind
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see i'm not sure if i'm prepared to say that because i don't know that i'm
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at the level well then all you have to do is give me a scenario where the laws of logic wouldn't be
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true like for instance could could planet earth be planet earth and not planet earth at the same time
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no is that possible even if all minds are gone is that possible
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no well so so if it's objectively true then truth and truth to you is mind subjective
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right if this is a subjective thing but if this is objectively true then wouldn't it be mind
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dependent well so my basis for truth is what is literally here the planet is a literal planet
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in space it can be i'm very sorry guys i'm sorry to cut you off we do have to move it along but you can
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catch her tomorrow on the crucible where they get into a uh they're they're gonna have a three-hour
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conversation on this so be sure to tune into that uh so i guess uh there's the you wanted to talk about
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the politics hot table you don't have to talk about uh you maybe we'll touch on that a little bit later
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i guess the last thing uh we kind of already talked about the body count stuff so what was the other
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thing that you wanted to hit on i'll come back to it i want to do some of my rapid fire questions that
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i have we have to review their clips and uh so hold on one sec guys while i'm finding my next notes here
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would you rather be the king's mistress or peasant's wife starting with you
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king's mistress i'm gonna be the king's mistress
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i mean i think it depends on the person the king like if it's a small principality or like
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full-on like the person it depends on their personality
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the was lichtenstein a principality i don't know
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like let's say it's like one one hundredth the land mass of germany so it's like it's small
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territory you know i think for me it depends on the the person
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if you if you want to do all things equal then it would so king henry the eighth okay or
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the peasant's wife i'll go with the peasant probably smart choice on that one unless you'd like to
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get beheaded or divorced or syphilis or die of natural causes okay anyways um all right what about
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you a king king's mistress yeah probably a peasant's wife the who what peasant's wife yeah peasant's
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wife peasant's wife peasant's wife peasant's wife peasant's wife word okay rapid fire questions who
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is the primary victim of war men or women i'm sorry what was that what was the question
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uh who's the primary victim of war men or women oh i think men okay men i would say men but they
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definitely do um go in villages and kill women and children too but i feel like men get killed the
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most can i say both you have to pick one men men men men men men okay well that's
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simple uh are men or women physically stronger i'm sorry we have to ask this because one girl said
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not she it we had the three-hour debate so we have to ask this question now men men men men men
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can you be sexist towards men yes i am you are whoa okay she left she said the quiet part out loud
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um you're you're sexist towards men yes why is that i don't really feel the need to not be
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you don't feel that's not a really great reason but it's the truth i i mean that's my answer hey are
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you a are you a man hater no i don't hate all men i actually know a lot of amazing men but do i
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uh not enjoy the majority of them absolutely okay so you're you i love like there's a lot of amazing
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men and i don't think all men cheat like i'm not one of those people that think everything's black and
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white okay yeah you can be sexist towards a man yes i should add and are you that's a good i've been
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from now on when i ask this question i'm gonna add and are you am i yeah uh probably oh okay all right
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interesting all right yes let me just write that to my notes and are you okay all right yeah i would
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say yes yes you are yes you can be sexist towards men and you are sexist towards men i i would say i
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could be sexist towards men okay yes and yes damn okay not like you know yeah go ahead yes you can
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and no i am not yes and i really try not to be but you are it's okay but sometimes sometimes we get
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it's only sometimes what's the most sexist tell us tell us tell us about this
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just in certain situations also i feel like being surrounded by a bunch of college guys specifically
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ucsb sometimes it's a little hard not to be but i really try not to be wow i love the honesty wait so
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like the frat boys yes are you in a sorority no ever been in the sword no okay okay all right what
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about you yes and i don't know i think men should be providers and take out the trash and stuff but
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so sexist that is sexist yes ah okay alicia what about you uh yes you can be and no i'm not
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um all right can you be one of the viewers asked me i this isn't from me this is one of
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the viewers and i'm doing him a favor he wanted me to ask this um can you be racist towards white
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people starting with you um and are you racist towards white people i feel like i am i mean i'm white
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but i'm just like every time every time i see white people doing some white people shouldn't like
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damn that's what that's that's why they're mad you can't you know they have the reasons wow okay oh
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wow okay what about you can you be racist towards white people yeah yeah but i don't i don't think
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i'm racist towards white people okay all right what about you i don't feel like you really could i
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feel like you could pass judgment okay but so like prejudice plus power yeah yeah but i don't
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think racist and i was saying what about you yes i think you can okay yes you can yeah you can
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yes yes okay all right why do i i don't know why it's it's the chat that wants me to ask these
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questions i don't know what the deal is um do we oh do we live in the patriarchy going back to the
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feminist stuff did we go around the table i think on the who's feminist i think it was kind of kind
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of you you and you maybe a little bit wait no and you too feminist i didn't say i was here oh well
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okay forget the feminist question but are you no okay do we live in a patriarchy yes yes yes
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yes no no we don't those of you who said yes under this patriarchy are women oppressed you got you
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got this brooklyn yes i think both are oppressed under the patriarchy both men and women yes okay
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yes but simultaneously i feel like they're more liberated as well more liberty like women have
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more freedom okay women have more freedom both and then i think you said there's a patriarchy yeah
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are women oppressed oppressed under the patriarchy yes but i also think it's getting better it's getting
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better slowly but i think it's the patriarchy is still an over-looming thing and people still follow
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a lot of it a lot of people still got it so starting with you again you said women are oppressed
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are you oppressed since you're a woman i think in some cases yeah but not others okay what about you
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are you oppressed no i can't think off the top of my head to be honest well maybe you can't think of
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any examples but do you think that you are oppressed as a woman a small dose small dosages okay i don't
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think that the oppression happens on the basis like because you are a woman or because you are a man i
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think it's just just because okay as a human got it what about you are you oppressed how are you oppressed
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um i can just like think of little things but like um like if it's just us like if it's me and
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a girlfriend like going somewhere then like someone has said before like oh like you need a man to come
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with you and we're like no we don't we're fine like we're eight or over eight the age of 18 like we don't
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need a man to like supervise us that's just like one example that comes to mind but it's just certain
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things also like i think men can put be put in power sooner than i can or like people have more
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faith i've seen like cases where people have more trust in men than the power that i can have people
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have more trust in men then like of like the power they can like do in the task than what i could do
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like if that makes sense what if it's like lifting something heavy i can still do it can the man do it
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better than you no well if they're stronger and if it's really heavy then maybe and if they are
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stronger it's very situational but i can also do it all right sure uh so those are the examples of you
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being oppressed as yeah it's there i know they're very minimal examples but yeah how are you oppressed
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brooklyn tell us wait i want to go back to the racist thing wait let's do the press thing then we'll
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come back to the racist uh i just think yeah i think men naturally just like socially have a lot
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more power and um they're taken more seriously and i can think like one example off the top of my head
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one time i couldn't get into some like it was a really it's a really long story so i don't want to
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get into it too much wait you can't get into a nightclub no no it wasn't a nightclub no i was just like at
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an event and um they're basically like oh like you don't have this certain type of ticket you can't
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go and i'm like what i do have it i did have it it was just like dropped and someone else scanned it but
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i had you know the credit card i bought it with everything you know and not even or like an hour
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later the my ex comes and then he's just like what's up like what's the problem instantly
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you know we get in and i just think men just hold so much more power men are taking so much more
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seriously than women so it's like i'm just confused how you could tell me no no no i have my credit card
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i have the ticket i have everything off the website and it's a no but the second a man comes up it's yes
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sir yes boss literally yes king like what what that's how it goes yeah what that's how it goes
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that's how it goes yeah men love to really just they go hard for other men so well actually they i
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mean they've done studies and they found that actually so women have a very strong a modestly
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strong in-group bias for other women and then they found that men actually have an out-group bias
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i'm probably that probably doesn't mean anything to you guys but there this study was done
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and it does exist and it did find precisely what i just stated okay well yeah and it is available
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on the internet okay but back to the racist thing really quick oh i don't think you could be this
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is very contradicting but i'm still gonna say it i don't think say that i don't think say with your
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chest i don't think because i didn't answer the first part i just said i was like when i see you
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you know you're racist i was saying when i see white people doing certain things that's like white people
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shit isn't that a movie i see white people oh wait i see what was that movie i see dead people
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i see dead people but then they said i see white people i don't know okay but i'm just saying like
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i don't think you know i'm not saying like oh uh like someone that's not white is going to be racist
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to a white person i'm just saying i am i'll be seeing why they get so upset with us wait so what's
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the thing about the that's just because i didn't answer i only answered the second part because
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you're like are you and i never said my answer to the first part oh so your answer the first part
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was yes you can be racist no no i'm saying no but i am like no you can't be racist towards white
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people but yes i'm racist but i'm white but you're a white girl yeah and you're racist towards
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other white people i can be can be or i guess past judgment or whatever but i just i just never
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answered your first part so wait okay uh do you do you think okay related to this then since we're
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going back here do you think white people have culture have culture have culture
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like when i think of white people culture i think of hot dogs honestly i'm not like that's
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just when i think like oh what's the culture you don't think of like europe i mean that's not my
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first thought that's not my first thing of mozart son that's not you don't think of bach
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you don't think of mendelssohn i think of like shakes we need a little dark age
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box macaroni and cheese and hot dogs italian cuisine and just can't wait for the fourth
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of july to dress like american what about italian cuisine what about french cuisine french cuisine
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i i went to france for a month and i the mona lisa
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that's just not my first size you asked what i thought about that that's not my first
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i think of box mac and cheese i think of craft box max mac and cheese and some weenies and i think
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of the fourth of july and people can't wait to wear an american flag as an outfit
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he's dope is that did somebody say chopin's dope okay he's really good
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oh yeah i was just answering your first ballet over here oh nutcracker
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tchaikovsky yeah oh what's what's his other banger what's that what's the other banger from
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tchaikovsky there's uh swan lake oh was that him swan lake the flute the nutcracker swan lake
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those are just not my first stravinsky stravinsky very another russian like composer stravinsky very
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good uh what's what's the right the right what's no i think of uh when that lady said the guacamole
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guacamole was too spicy let me talk to you about missorgsky missorgsky now he had really fantastic
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compositions there night on bald or bear mountain speaking of bald night on bald mountain it was in
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fantasia fantastic composition shout out to fantasia shout out fantasia what's up so those are my answers
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are you more of a like a baroque are you more into the baroque period or are you more like romantic
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yeah so you know which which of the uh box cello suites are your favorite
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i'm partial to his uh his third cello suite movement too or yeah
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i'm gonna have my girl des read this what's up des go ahead hey brian i had a question for you where's
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the clitoris on a website it says at the crest of the how do you say that labia labia
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what does that mean what does the female vagina look like also for the ladies would you date a
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beet farmer that's looking for love in all the wrong places for a for real
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it's like at the top you know ladies show of hands would you date a beet farmer just show of hands
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it's like dwight from the office dwight from the office nice okay thank you jess so though
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sorry it took us forever to get to your super chat um how much would the man have to make after
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taxes for them to date you starting with you go ahead i don't have a certain uh
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i don't have a number that i'd put on a man to date him like to be willing to date him i just need a
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man with a plan she needs a man with a plan okay how much does drake make
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what about you more than enough after taxes what was it what was the name of the super chatter
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did anyone catch it sorry i forgot i was gonna anybody okay i would say i don't care
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i would say kind of bounce off of the man with the plan i would prefer a man to do well for himself
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and have some extra left over because if you're barely scraping by then i feel like
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you don't really have the means to be dating beautiful yeah what about you does it's more of a
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plan it's not like a number word you know that you gotta shoot for uh around 40 000 and if he wants
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me to stay home double that okay um yeah kind of plan thing and like it doesn't really matter if i
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really like this person or if i'm in love like i feel like money doesn't have a value on that
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relationship i haven't really thought about it in like a sense of crunching numbers so probably about
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the same just a plan and go from there i don't have a preference oh okay yeah oh we should have done
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that yeah guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever guys it's been 18 minutes since we've had prime i'm
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pretty sure it's bugged our stream's been bugging out no idea we've been having lag issues drops a
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fall on the prime sub if you have one nickelodeon says blondie you don't need a man when you and your
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friends are stumbling down the strip drunk if not i never want to hear women like you playing victim
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because a drunk guy went okay grabbed your booty i guess i'm confused because she's he's he's trying to
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like say she needs a man because thank you tama yeah thank you tama for the gifted five subs okay we
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were gonna get into uh nick we're gonna start pulling on more clips while i do that uh alicia you said that
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nick get the next clip going from something for that ass
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yes something for that ass these girls are going to be the next to call her daddy
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but more vulgar more vulgar more vulgar ah damn okay but what huh but what
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i think listen just a little feedback you you open brooklyn you open the little feedback is the
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brooklyn bridge is it open yes to feedback i think you're right on the precipice of breakthrough
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i think the one thing holding you back your earrings are a bit too big really you gotta
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downgrade the earrings and then you're gonna be fucking oh my god i didn't that was like a you're
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gonna be on upwards trajectory my earrings get me so much engagement though oh i'm just saying i feel
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like that's what's holding you back i don't think anyone can bully me out of wearing these i'm not
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trying i'm not i'm not no but that's what they try to do but i look at it as engagement they think
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it's like oh i just i just made the most clever joke in the world the bigger the hoop the bigger the
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you know like wow you know did you ever play star fox 64. no like you would have to fly through like
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the i could put like you could too you could put both your fists through there yeah i just when i see
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them i think like but i don't think that's the problem fly through okay alicia said hot take
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feminists have no game slash riz yeah um and i say that non-judgmentally i say that experientially
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thank you ab check when i was a feminist i because i believe if you're a feminist a core tenant is you
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believe in oppression therefore you're automatically going to have this like adversarial dynamic with men
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you're also going to have a combative uh nature with men because you think you're his equal and
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those are just things that i notice are major boner killers for sure and yeah what else did i have to
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say about that major also when i see with the bowing for your uh thing the girls are always acting like
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oh my god it's so degrading and they just have no playful nature like feminists you i say this with
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love again i'm not judgmenting i'm not being judgmental but we've just kind of lost a playful
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nature with men because we just constantly think men are trying to do these like little things to harm us
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and i just feel like now in retrospect i realize that it was the furthest from the truth with most
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most men i've ever engaged in most men had really good intentions with me um so yeah i just think
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women should be a little bit more playful because you're not oppressed i'm sorry you're not oppressed
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um yeah okay uh nick let's get into the clips please let's get into the clips go ahead
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we're gonna we have to only limit it to like two minutes of commentary per because there's a lot
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that's why i'm celibate because it makes my mind clear because if i get some dick i'm wondering
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what's you doing where you at who you with drop the location that's why i'm celibate because we'll
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let it play one more time it makes my mind clear because if i get some dick i'm wanting what you
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do and where you at who you which drop the location wait pause that's why i'm so wait but i'm confused
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aren't you you said you're celibate right but like you said if I get some dick so if I were to
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you must have had that experience of getting dick yes I'm not a virgin no I'm not well that's not
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what I'm so I'm saying that's why I'm celibate because I like a peace of mind because if you
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are in my coochie I'm gonna be in your business if a guy's in your coochie you're in the business
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I'm in his business you're in his business yeah okay I feel like I have the right to ask those
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questions if we're having sex because I'm not just gonna have sex with anyone okay next
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he's pulling it up he's getting it ready boys next clip he's almost got I abstain from sex because I
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don't lay down with men I wouldn't want to be the father of my children I don't lay down with men
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that are emotionally unavailable I don't lay down with men who don't just straight up respect and
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value my time and me as a person I mean either way you guys are gonna be mad because I'm gonna
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continue to use my platform to inspire women to keep their legs closed until they find someone
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that's really worth laying down with and doing such a vulnerable act with I abstain from sex because I
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don't lay down with men I wouldn't want to be the father of my children I don't well this kind of I
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mean this I perhaps goes back to our conversation about like men being p words for wanting virgins
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I'm glad we only have five minutes to talk about this I mean I these are it's just it's just look we
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already talked about it but it's just another video where it's like on one hand you're advocating
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women abstain from sex don't have sex ergo you're gonna have a low body count or you might even be a
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virgin but also men bad for wanting virgins no I'm just telling women I'm just trying to encourage
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them to be smart because I think a lot of the times I think all women can admit if they lay down
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everyone if they did a list of every single guy they been with maybe not every single woman that's I
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can't put everyone in a box but if you were to make a list of all the guys you've ever been with
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how many of those were one deserving and two were you enthusiastic to actually sleeping with going
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back to what she was saying being in a room with a man I understand like how she's saying there's a
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power struggle because a lot of men get sex because they're just keep like come on come on come on
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and even though maybe it's not the r word but it's just you're not getting a yes the first time
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you're not getting an enthusiastic response you're just yeah it's really it's really weird though
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because like I agree with your messaging here right but I don't agree with the conclusion that's
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that like that's where we're getting we're getting hung up but like your message is women you said in
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this clip ladies keep your legs closed right yeah it seems like it's yeah that seems like a good
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message but if they're keeping their legs closed then they're not having sex with men they're not
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having sex with men they're going to have very low body counts they have very low body counts
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than men are going to now if all women followed your advice in other words let's try it this way
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if all women followed your advice all women would have way way way lower body counts right
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and so all so then all of the men who are attracted to all of those women would be
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pdf I think it's more so just like I've heard because a lot of people assume based off my videos
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oh since you speak like this you must you know been ranthing you must have 100 bodies you must do this
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and that and that's just not my personal experience you know but I'm trying to encourage women that
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maybe have been more I guess sexually liberated however you want to put it I'm just encouraging them
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maybe because I don't see a lot of I what comes up on my feet maybe it's just because I'm I don't know
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aren't you encouraging all women to do this yes I'm encouraging all women to do this but I'm saying
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you know even if even if say a woman has 100 bodies maybe from this point forward start making
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better decisions yeah no I get that I agree with that but you're also encouraging women who have
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zero bodies to also keep their legs closed unless it's for the right guy correct correct but I'm but
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my thing is regardless if a woman has 100 or zero I don't think that I don't think the one with zero
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holds more value than the one with 100 that's just yeah yeah but the thing is is like that's
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not even what I'm saying whether or not you think they hold more value or not from a man's perspective
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they could to the man okay right you agree with that yes so if to the man's perspective they hold
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more value because they're virgins what in the fucking world could be wrong with that I was just like I
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said it's gonna keep going in a circle but I was just responding to the hundreds and hundreds of
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comments of men telling me because I'm spreading a message saying ladies don't give it up and they're
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telling me you know what you have no room to speak because you're not a virgin really I don't I don't
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I shouldn't yeah I'm sure that there's plenty of djins because yeah yeah I've had sex I'm sure
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that's that's why I said what I said yeah I know but it's just be quiet because I get it I get I get
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what you're saying I agree with the heart of the message I really do okay I just don't really agree
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with the conclusion that this means that men are bad if they're attracted to women with with lower
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body counts or if they want if they desire that it's not about being attracted it's about telling a
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woman she has no value if she's not a virgin you're not what if they don't have any value to you if
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they're not what if they don't have any value well then I mean you know I there's nothing I can
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really say on that I feel like I said my piece but I'm just saying you know that's that's fine you
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want I just think it's weird I do I must still stand by the fact that I think it's weird that a man
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could sleep with over a hundred women and then he wants a virgin I think he only said what if he slept
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with a hundred women and they were all virgins based well I think I think one of those hundreds
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is lying okay well what if he slept with 30 and they were all virgins and he knew for sure that
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all of them were telling the truth would he be in the clear then I mean some men there's got to be
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some man who has sex with these women the first time right I mean that's gonna happen of course but
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it seems it seems like kind of your only argument is like but he shouldn't only want to and that's
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what I that's I guess where all the confusion is for everybody is like um why not though because
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somebody somebody's gonna have sex with them too and whether they're married or not in order to
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take care of this uh you know virginity thing right that's that's going to happen yes so if there's men
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who that's all that's what they desire I don't I don't actually understand why that's problematic
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that's that's the thing that is bizarre about it yeah well I just I can't take back what I said I
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can't I well you don't have to take it back but can't you can't you can't you either can't you just
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kind of modify the position so it makes more sense like maybe the position could be this could be I
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understand that there are men who value a lower body count and value virginity and chastity and women
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and there's nothing wrong with that and my advice is just across the board that the less promiscuous
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you are the better the outcomes are that's just adjusting the position that's not even that's not
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even really taking back what you said it's just adjusting the position so it makes sense right
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yes but I still believe that maybe I overgeneralize but I still believe there are a good amount of men
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women that are pushing p what the fuck yeah I think there's a good amount of women who do that
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too and I agree I agree with that yeah I know so I mean if that's the case then then I it's the
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correlate that's the problem I think that most most men value chastity in women I think that that's a
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super valuable thing you clearly do too that's why you tell women to be chaste because it's value
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the sexual intercourse valuable right yes yeah so I mean if that's the case then it seems like
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you're in total agreement that men value it and women have the gate keep key to it and so it's
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super valuable so don't just give it away right men are saying the same thing because they value it
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it's like I you can you can reconcile these positions so easily by just saying it's okay
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it's okay to value that I'm not I don't think it's wrong to value I'm not but men are not under the
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comments saying oh I just like really value a woman that they're not talking like that so
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yeah but they might not express themselves really well maybe I'm not expressing myself
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and then I agree I think you're not and that's why I'm trying to help the position because I agree
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with the heart of what you're saying right that's why I'm like if you could just modify the position
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slightly uh it would suddenly make a lot more sense to everybody and I think that that's basically
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what you believe you think that sex is valuable it's a valuable tool for women they're the gatekeepers
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to the sex men value women with lower body counts so they're going to value you more if you're not
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giving them sex that totally makes sense to me it's just like all you have to do to kind of drive it
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home to to get across that finish line is saying it's perfectly okay if men value women with low body
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counts or virginity that's that just makes total sense okay wait so just to be clear are men p words for
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preferring women who are virgins not all but I don't know if she's I just still think but my stance
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is still there are p word men and they say that yes there are p word those they make those type of
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comments because they were eager to tell on themselves in the comment section so I mean okay
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well let me let me just rephrase just real quick but no no not all men are are pushing p because they
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value low body counts or virgins but it gives you p word no not every I and I understand even when a
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man is dealing with me like a lot of men that's why too I don't really date because I'm not trying
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to you know like toot my own horn but I feel like anytime I've tried to talk to a guy just to be on
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some like you know friends I'm not really I just got out of a relationship I'm not looking for a
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serious anything um I'm not even sure if I want to take it to the next level of having sex or anything
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I just think that it's like you only want oh I guess uh it's just I feel like I understand that
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they want to I guess wife me because they're think oh well you were an eight-year relationship
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you have a low body count Andrew your your question and then I do have to move it on go ahead
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okay just very quickly you would agree with me that all dogs have tails right yes okay does that
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mean that all animals with tails are dogs no okay great so then we can agree that some men are p words
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right yes and I agree that not all men are I that was a blanket statement and I shouldn't have
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generalized it so much but I do think there still are men I do feel like the men that but there are
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but there are dogs right and this is this is the same type of argument that's why I'm saying is
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like look I'm just saying that if you if you agree that men it's perfectly reasonable for men to desire
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virgins or women with low body count I think that that reconciles the entire position you know you
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have to explain it anymore like I think you just get overwhelming agreement from people that's all
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next person that I'm gonna be with is gonna be the father of my children's gonna be my husband
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wait no I'm sorry if he's gonna be my husband and then he's gonna be the father of my children
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in that order because I'm definitely not popping out no babies without no ring the next person that
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wait so you are you're waiting until marriage then to have sex no that's your standard I was
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saying I wouldn't have someone's baby if they weren't my husband wait but didn't you say hold
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on play it one more time Nick I'm gonna be with is gonna be the father of my children's gonna be my
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husband wait no I'm sorry if he's gonna be my husband and then he's gonna be the father of my
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daughter and that okay okay because okay so I'm just saying I wouldn't give a man a child without
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a ring okay sure so and that's another require you have to remember these are like 10 15 second
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videos so when I did the requirement thing everybody everyone was like what about being a
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wife what about being a wife I've already talked about that I'm not gonna make a repetitive
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do honestly believe that raw sex is only for a man that's gonna be your husband so do what you want
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with that information I do honest oh I still stand on that you have you ever had
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raw sex yeah with my uh boyfriend of eight years and I definitely thought I was gonna you know we were
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gonna be married and I heard your voice in the background I think on that clip you seem to concur
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with her ever had raw sex yes but are you waiting until marriage to have raw sex ideally and then you
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said that and that's the clip right you're waiting until marriage well I'm not well yeah for raw I feel
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like raw sex well I guess I could see how it's contradicting because I said for a man that's going to be
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and everyone was very much oh like going to be he's not though but I'm just saying more like it would
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have to be such a serious relationship where I truly believe that it's only us dealing with each
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other because you could be dating someone and you know for how you say like if you sleep with a woman
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that you're not gonna just sleep with a woman one time but are you looking at every woman like oh
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that's gonna be my wife no you're not you're just like oh I'm gonna I'm gonna keep you around for a
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I personally don't believe in friends with benefits if you're piping me down and you're
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being a good friend to me we go together you're my man that's true like that's it how are we gonna
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be friends and be fucking and not be together like I personally let it play let it play we don't believe
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in friends with benefits if you're piping me down and you're being you're being a good friend to me
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just here's where I get a little I raise an eyebrow like the the sort of language you use
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like you're saying like piping me down dick game is whack what was the what was the other thing in
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the most recent thing that was me uh you said dick game is whack you said piping me down there's one
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other thing that you said that's kind of like is this really the language of women who are
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celibate I feel like my whole brand is that my whole like thing is that having sex appeal can
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coexist with being celibate because a lot of people look at me and they just make assumptions based on
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how I dress how I post how I look and they try to discredit me but I'm here to say you could wear
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whatever and you could you know you could you two things could be true at once well we have a clip
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to react to on that but two things can be true at once yeah I feel like I could be just like I could
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express my wholeness in ways that are not through sex like dressing dressing a certain way or yeah I
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post a certain way I dress a certain way I like to be false advertisement maybe that's false she likes to
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be false advertisement because I feel like guys would look at me and be like oh yeah that girl
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would be a good time that'd be easy to fuck but wouldn't like so but men won't believe that you're
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not gonna fuck until you don't fuck them but wouldn't it be better to like if you're trying to get the type
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guy who I mean I guess guys are desperate for pussy they'll just wait around I guess but wouldn't the type
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guy that'd be more open to you know pursuing something serious more traditional type of guy
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it sounds kind of like that's the kind of guy you want wouldn't the approach be to be a bit more modest
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yes and that's why I said earlier I keep meeting the same type of man and that's why I don't date it's
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because I will eventually have to you know I'm in my 20s right now so I dress like I'm in my 20s when
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I'm in my 30s I'll dress like I'm in my 30s if I was a mother I would act and post as if I was a
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mother but I'm not I'm okay that's just my stance on it and I don't think I mean not saying that I
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change it up for the podcast but I do think it gets as much attention as it does because I you know
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have a certain type of page and then I say certain things and people are just like what the fuck's going
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talking about dressing conservative for your man you should be able to wear whatever you want
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don't date a fashion police take people as they are you shouldn't want to change them if they're
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dressing a certain way it doesn't mean they're going to cheat on you talking about dressing
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conservative for your okay okay so like you guys uh have objections to men wanting women
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can I speak on that yeah go ahead so that was another recap and roast and I had brought up my
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ex who was very controlling and no matter like how I proved my loyalty I didn't have social media
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I dressed like jeans and a shirt like I never wore dresses like he was very controlling he still
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cheated so you could you could do all the right things for a man but that isn't going to prevent
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them from cheating and so the solution is to just the solution is to do you and just do hood rat shit
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on instrument just find someone that's more accepting and why that'd be like uh us doing bottle service and
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then people meet us at a club and they're like mad that we're doing bottle service you met us here
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exactly why are you mad why are you trying to punish me literally wait punish you for what
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because like she was in a relationship dead ass where she couldn't wear like leggings couldn't ever
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step outside without a bra this and that she did all this to show a man hey like I'm a good woman
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and then where did that get her cheating on and she's not the only not this girl with the most unique
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story in the world it happens all the time exactly yeah but do you think that relationship should be
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built around respect of course so I think there has to if you want me to respect you in a way of
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you want me to make sure I have a bra and every time I step outside okay how about you respect me by
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keeping your dick in your pants yeah no I get it right you don't want to hang on hang on you don't
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want the the guy to go out and cheat I understand that part of it but that's not really what was said
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here what was said here was that um women should should dress however they want if your man wants
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you to dress conservatively uh you shouldn't do that but if you agree that relationships are built
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around respect if why why would any self-respecting man want their woman to walk around looking like
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a prostitute that doesn't sound like uh there's any any self-respect there or that you have much
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respect for them at all well I feel like if you're serious with someone they can express how that
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feels and I feel like relationships are about coming to a mutual agreement and making compromises so
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I might dress like a hoochie today but if I get serious with someone which I haven't for years
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then I'm open to compromise well then why would you give women the advice if their man wants them to
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dress conservatively not to do that when you just right now said if your man asked you to dress
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conservatively you might do that I think I said it too broadly honestly I was more talking about like
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the talking stage not being serious but if you're serious with a man that's your long-term boyfriend
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and that's your husband I can understand that but if you're just getting to know somebody
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yeah but wouldn't that also be counterintuitive like if you go on two dates with a guy let's say
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and you like him and he likes you back and he says hey you know look um if you want this to turn into
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something I really don't want you to look promiscuous and like you're being inviting towards other men
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it doesn't seem very respectful towards me and in exchange for that you know I'll limit the amount
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of women that I have around me so that we can move towards something more exclusive
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what did I miss it was good it was a good talk it was good it was a good one
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was it an and was it a clip it and ship it boys clip it and ship it clip it and ship it okay
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uh next clip por favor wait actually oh god wait you know what we should do I feel like we should
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pull up their instagrams okay oh nick he's on it he's on it boys he's on it I think that video is
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talking like similar things huh oh when they're so talking about a lot of things if you know what
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I mean I'll tell you what one time I was back in the on the farm and I was having a bad makeup day
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that day so I was I put your I put your costume on and I felt all like emo and I put darker makeup on
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you still got that Eeyore costume or what's up yeah I do you got it somewhere we'd love to have
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you back on the podcast but you gotta wear that costume that'd be fire really the Eeyore Eeyore
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costume okay we don't outfit repeat what what's that what's that song from Winnie the Pooh what how's
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it go hundred acre woods thousand acres is it a hundred acres or a thousand acres
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Nick can you do we have the IGs we got there's love her podcast something for that ass okay I guess
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we can scroll is it is this wait I need to pull this up yeah just just just check make sure there's
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nothing like crazy on there we gotta make sure there's no crazy shit
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wait actually I think I have two links here I'm gonna send it in private chat
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and then wait well actually question before we do this I'm just going around the table do you
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consider yourself traditional or modern or not traditional do you consider yourself do you
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consider yourself a traditional woman go ahead no no no no oh okay nope no no trying to be
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damn okay all right well I don't know if I can really make this argument then I was just gonna say
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like like Brooklyn there's it's here's where I'm confused because you're like man the guy's got to
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wait and do all this shit and I'm gonna abstain and no raw sex and like all this shit and I'm like
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there's there's videos of you twerking on your Instagram and I'm like that's confusing as a guy
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bro I'm like bro she's she's like twerking on her IG but I'm waiting six months to give you some
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pussy like that's confused that confuses the dudes bruv yeah and I feel like my stances wait Brooklyn
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but just say do you feel me do you feel me though it's not my response say you feel me I feel you thank
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you go ahead I just don't feel like it's a desire of mine to be not confusing to a man I just I don't
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even care about dating I'm not worried about I'm not trying to be someone's wife right now I'm trying
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to be single I've given my life to a man before I love sleeping on both sides of my bed I love not
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answering to someone I love not having to fucking make a bunch of food all the time clean up after
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someone I love it so what do I care if they don't like the way I dress the way I talk the way I act
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what do I care one day I'll clean up one day I'll archive all of it I'll clean up my act clean it all
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up I'll clean up my act and then maybe not all of it not all of it not too much but I mean yes I have a
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when you when you do decide to clean it all up if you had to count the amount of cats you think
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you're gonna have how many would that be how many catches cats cats by the time you clean it all up
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I'm allergic to cats so zero she's a reptile type of chick is it gonna be a little purse dog
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do you like the little purse dog yeah I have one with my ex you do is it is it a chihuahua or
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she's like three pounds what's that it's a York she's a Yorkie three pounds yeah yeah good times
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she gives those vibes yeah there's there's definitely either a purse dog or some cats for
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sure yeah and animals are great yeah yeah I don't know that's really weird though I thought you're a
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vegan why are you imprisoning a dog like that rude that's uh that's a kind of psychopathic behavior
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from a vegan I'm just uh you know you're imprisoning uh somebody who you give human rights to I don't
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I don't know why you would do that how could you do that Brooklyn uh a Yorkie couldn't survive in the
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wild yeah they can't she would die first thing she would get eaten she'd be a snack she wouldn't even
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be a meal she'd be a snack well wait wait so let me ask you a question has your Yorkie ever run off
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no it's never run off even one time she is like a Yorkie has never run off really
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right isn't Penelope like super loyal like she's obedient she's like like you've never opened the
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door and the dogs run out the door she might go like in front but she's not ever like running all
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the way off she just runs like oh let's go outside you know but she's safe does the dog go outside and
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it's sniffing around and it doesn't want you to bother it and you go and you bother it anyway you pick
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it up and you take it back inside yeah I just imprisoning an animal against its will
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psychotic psychotic vegan behavior before you could be a psycho and still be vegan
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before we pull up this next clip I gotta pull up one of these chats Maddie can you read this please
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Brian's 10 is a four foot Asian with big labia I like my women like I like my coffee without
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someone else's pain in it yeah that's actually that is my type yeah oh what okay yeah I mean I date
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white girls I date white dwarves also can anybody know an Asian dwarf I'm trying to get the hook up you
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know what I mean okay anyways next clip the huh uh maybe later let's just get through the clips and
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if and how many are there and when they're so crazy about what you wear what you do is because they're
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up to something and they don't want you to be outside because they don't want you to find your
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worth and that more people would treat you better than how they're treating you so they don't want
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you to go outside they know they know so they try to hide you and when there's I guess that's related
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to so like like the whole guys they're trying to hide you I don't want my man to go out and cheat
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that's ridiculous I wanted to instead be set up to go out and meet other men that I can cheat with
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because they're gonna know my real value no I honestly this is one of my more least favorite
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rails I'm not gonna lie because I feel like I didn't it was my least favorite what I wanted to
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thanks but what I was talking about in the episode is like a man being very controlling and he will
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uh project so for example I would always be accused of cheating like I would get my phone look through
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on the daily all this crazy shit would happen so instead of thinking oh he's on that same type of
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time I would just go the extra mile to try to prove my loyalty but come to find out with age
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and becoming smarter that he was just projecting because he was up to those things that he's accusing
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me of okay got it next clip go ahead man isn't spending money on you he's not investing in you he
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doesn't like you because a man that really likes you it doesn't even matter if he's rich it's about
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generosity if he's not wanting to give you what he can and it comes naturally if a man isn't spending
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money on you what's wrong with that questions comments concerns so I mean it sounds like uh it
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sounds like what you're doing is promoting sexuality for the purposes of having men spend money on you
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without delivering the return of the um the sex itself is that is that basically the strategy
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oh I would say you would notice more if a man's if a man likes you because of how he invests in you
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his time which is something that can never get back and his resources which could be his money
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so yeah but I mean doesn't that isn't that basically kind of the stereotype of the gold
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digger which is that they'll allow men to spend a ton of money on them yes uh by promoting their
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sexuality but then not actually ever give them any sex so it's basically like leading them on in
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way uh yes I could agree that could come off as gold digger ideology okay so what do you guys think
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uh like if a guy took you on a romantic date to mcdonald's would you guys be like down we can't eat
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yeah we can't eat anything no we'll get uh uh you can't eat the french fries you can't eat the french
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no they have they got the tallow they have fat and beef tallow that's like the one not anymore they
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use that vegetable shit now but I don't want to just eat fries I like to eat eat yeah we eat a lot
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of food but we're not we're not the type of women that oh you have to take us to such an extravagant
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place yeah like when we see that list come out of like oh where I wouldn't let a man take me we
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didn't you didn't you didn't fuck with that not really just because it puts too much pressure
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that's fair but it's like a man that going back to the video the cheesecake factory I just think like
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it's like oh if a man straight up doesn't want to feed you at all doesn't want to take you on a date
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you kind of know like he just kind of is almost embarrassed to be messing with you at that point
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because I honestly I dealt I dealt with a man that didn't like me and he didn't want to take me out
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so I feel like would you guys um would you guys date oh sorry go ahead I had I had different
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experiences to compare it to so would you guys date a carnist of someone who only eats meat yeah hell
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no why not carnist because we won't have the same morality or views I'm open to dating someone who's
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not vegan but they would have to be an open-minded person like they would have to be down to eat some
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vegan food because I'm only gonna we're only gonna cook vegan food for our man so I'm not
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gonna make some meat for you you're gonna have to already know know that I'm not gonna just suddenly
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change that what if they did it for health reasons then we'll see how that you know works out for them
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and like Jordan would you would you cook them a big bag of ribs if they were eating for health
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reasons absolutely no I believe in I believe in herbs so your men are basically just gonna get
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salads you're just gonna like make them salads with a little bit of potatoes think of it this way
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think of it this way think of all the recipes you can make with like four or five different animals
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there's so many recipes you can make using different grains and vegetables there's so much out there and
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when I first went vegan like seven years ago I found replacement recipes for everything that I used to
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love so I've never your idea of a perfect date if somebody takes you to a salad bar I mean no not I
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wouldn't consider that a perfect date but salad bars could be bomb but I wouldn't consider that a
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perfect thing the way we eat is actually like we have to sometimes get two tables just for our food
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just with the two of us so that's the thing too because yeah people want to say a whole lot of
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vegetables in order to keep on sometimes any kind of muscle mass right well this is the thing too
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because people want to say we're gold diggers but it's like where we do these things for ourselves
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like we want a lot of food we want these fun experiences like traveling for example but it's not
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something that we can't do for ourselves when we go out to eat we order a bunch of plates we just came
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from Miami we took ourselves there so it's not like and do you do you guys run into a lot of
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attractive vegan men or do you run into more attractive carnage carnage men who eat meat what
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what is the one that's both where they eat plants and meat like omnivores omnivore I would say omnivores
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uh yeah so you run into more attractive men who do eat meat um run into yeah but I know that
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there's really handsome vegan men that are out there yeah I'm sure I know that there's some but
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like in general right and isn't it like I've always wondered this right because there's not that many
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women who are who are vegans to be honest with you that uh that I run usually it's men um but I'm just
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I'm just curious I've seen the quality of men generally who are vegans and they suck like they suck
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how how the hell do you stand it like how how and what ways like the the pool is so small for vegan
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men and there's such little dorky nerds I'm like I don't know how anybody stands them I got my ex
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like you said like she said don't overlook the nerds they got a few tricks up there actually I know a
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vegan bodybuilder yes yeah listen I do too I know a vegan bodybuilder his name is vegan gains I've
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debated with multiple times yeah he's a decent enough guy I like I like him personally but he's
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an exception to the rule there's very few vegan bodybuilders and there's very few vegans who don't
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look like they're pasty and are about to fall over dead like there's just not that many my I got my ex
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to go vegan and he's like a big he's a big dude and he's and he stayed even after yeah I feel like
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he got bigger after he went vegan all right next clip
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feel like a situation ship could work but you really got to be honest with yourself what do you
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want out of this do you just want a companionship do you want a bill or two alleviated do you want to
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eventually get in marriage all of those are determining factors you really need to think about
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what you want so get to know the person get to know their character see how they handle situations
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and as a person as a person sex aside could you handle this person as a friend if you don't even
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like who they are as a person you think they're a piece of fucking shit they're not gonna just magically
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be a great man to you they're gonna be a piece of shit to you and maybe not right away but I promise
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you is gonna come out so you really gotta see the character of a person before you get involved
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because you could fuck around and really find out and waste years of your life I promise you
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I feel like it's a situation wait so what was the thing about paying a bill or two is that like
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something that happens for you guys like you'll be in a situation ship of the guy well she she actually
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had an opposing idea for me like I don't think situations can work and she also had another real
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of like I don't believe in uh friends with benefits and then I kind of brought an opposing
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idea and why but yeah I would say but are dudes really out there just well when you get into that
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dating uh there are men that want to alleviate some stresses have you have you had that yeah and
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that's why we don't feel like that yes I don't we don't feel like it's such crazy like back even
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back to the requirements it's like I don't think it's such a crazy request because I've already had my
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face tattoo I don't think it's such a crazy request for someone to spend money because people have
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already spent money so you know it's it's not it's our reality so we're not like so like what what the
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fuck is that what do you think the chances are that you're gonna find a vegan bodybuilder who you
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think is really handsome and tatted who's gonna tattoo your face on their stomach in order for you to
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have their children he's what is what percentage of the population do you think that is it's uh probably a
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very small but I do think I'm a very blessed woman all it takes is one Andrew yeah yeah all it takes
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is and I don't need to date I don't need my man to be vegan he just if he wants to eat however he
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wants to eat he's gonna cook whatever animal products he wants to eat and he's going I'm not
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gonna cook it for him but I'll cook him food but I'm not gonna you know but veganism is a moral
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position which is espousing that animals have essentially the same inherent uh moral value as
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human beings do sometimes to uh some kind of mildly lesser degree from some vegans uh but still that's
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what you're saying so isn't your man basically if you date a guy who is going to eat meat aren't you
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essentially saying okay go ahead and be immoral and I don't care I just don't think that you could
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push like I don't think you just getting in a relationship with a man that's not vegan and
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being like you have to be vegan and be with me would be a way to get a man to go vegan I think
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the better way to get a man to go vegan is to show him how good you could eat vegan and show how fit you
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could be and all that and that would be a more persuading way to get your way I gotta move it on I'm
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sorry I'm sorry this vegan conversation is making me hungry for hamburgers okay uh go ahead uh next
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little uh little in and out Brian you doing a little in and out little uh little in and out
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something I regret being single is that I've put off a lot of dating and hopes that someone would
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do better and be better don't do that don't sit around and wait for a man don't try to prove
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yourself to a man the moment you start trying to prove yourself to a man and you're like let me
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show you how good of a girl I am and I just won't won't date anyone else even though I have no title
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from you no ring no commitment no nothing I'm gonna sit I'm gonna be a good girl I'm not gonna go out
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on the dates I'm getting asked out on because I want to prove myself to you you lost I think something
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I regret listen up kings listen up kings in the chat you don't date a girl
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you don't date a girl if she's if she's talking to another guy I don't care if there's no title
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you don't even talk to her you don't even date her she has to only have eyes for you okay know
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you're worth kings if she's if she even glances at a guy onto the next one she can't even look at
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another dude jokes aside and if she won't cook you meat what the hell good is she like I mean
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that's my honest take if a woman won't cook you meat I would I would rather drink turpentine and
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piss on a brush fire than that don't eat ever gets off why do we got to bring turpentine into this
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what did turpentine ever do to you Andrew well I mean it I guess it didn't do it I think turpentine
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let me look I'm just saying at least for me if we go on the first date it has to be a wrap with
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the other dudes first date you can't be talking to other dudes on the first date I'm sorry after
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the first date that's my standard like if we go on the first date you want a second date Lena you
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want a second date Lena you want to call me Leanna Lena but you want to talk about dating me
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can't see my name right fucking up here just uh nose diving this um okay if you want a second date
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your carnest brain Brian it's terrible yeah if you want a second date their camp it has to be a wrap
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with the other dudes and if I find out that you're like because some girls will be like sleeping with
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a dude but like dating other dudes if I went on the first date with you and you're fucking other dude
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it's it's a wrap I don't care how much I liked you I no longer like you but we go on the first date
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okay fine maybe there's another seven guys in the picture whatever if you're hopefully not sleeping with
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them you want a second date it has to be a wrap with those other dudes I need your exclusive romantic
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and sexual attention even without the title that's what I you'll get the title quick you'll get the
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title quick well yeah that's your that's your standard that's my standard I feel like that's what
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I've always done I've I only know how to be like just hopelessly devoted to one person and I feel
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like that has I know I just feel like that hasn't really worked out in my favor when I say date I don't
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mean sex like I'm just saying you know if a man's if a man's just stringing you along and you're just
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his placeholder until he gets what he really wants why are you turning down a bunch of dates and getting
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the opportunity to know other people that doesn't make sense yay that's not playing the game sorry and
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that's another reason too why I don't date because I have this problem of only talking to one person
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and just having my whole world revolve around one person and it's it's like no it's not a safe way
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to date because realistically you need to date a few at a time so you're not just
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this is assuming you're coming across men that are not on the same page as you right not every
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man is like you where they are like I'd say most of them are not like you but I will say I would say
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the way that in which they are like you is that wanting that exclusivity while they go stick their
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dick in everything that allows them to Brian's not doing that well I'm saying maybe not not him but
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I'm saying like most men they want that exclusivity from you but they're not willing to give that to
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you they want to have you know six seven eight whatever girls on the side but they want you to
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only be talking to them and that's just not I feel like this is how dating like dating 20 years ago
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you that's how it used to be like I feel like how I move is kind of like how most people used to move
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but now it's all fucked up with like dating apps social media and all that shit you know the guy
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typically is talking to one girl the girl's talking to one guy you know doesn't have to be like a super
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trad courtship but maybe you guys hook up you know it doesn't you don't maybe not on the third date
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whatever you guys like each other you're in a relationship boom but now it's like I'm talking
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I'm I'm fucking talking to five people I'm sleeping with two of them three of them whatever
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I feel like the way I move is like that was just kind of normal like that was the normal 20 years
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ago wasn't it normal 20 years ago 20 years ago let's see that would be yearly okay yeah no yeah but if you
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are sleeping with three out of five of those women then you're not doing that date rule where you're like
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after this date is just us you still keeping your options open it's one-sided you're being one-sided
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wait but I'm not I'm confused how are you how are you sleeping with three women out of five
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oh but no but you want exclusivity wait I'm not though I don't know if you just I maybe I wasn't
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clear but I'm saying like that's how people move oh but most men are though most men are not just
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sleeping with being single I mean shit they're not even in relationships and just sleeping with their
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partner but there are a lot of obviously most men are not single and just like oh I'm just
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only gonna sleep with this one girl because she likes me so much and I just care so much about
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I think women should start simping to be oh I'm such a simp art you're a simp I'm a fucking simp
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certified simp certified simp yes certified lover girl I wear my heart on a sleeve yeah
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certified and when you're saying oh men don't get compliments I'm maybe I'm just a love bomber I
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don't know but I give all the compliments oh yeah just been placed in the wrong hand so
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developed I'll fake defense mechanisms over time I'll fake an orgasm to stroke your ego no no no no
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first off hold on you can't fake the orgasm Brooklyn well if you ever gave me a real one you would know
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that I faked it because it's like an exorcist moment so once you really actually exorcism the
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organ exorcist moment yeah so once you actually accomplish that you would be like oh shit all
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the other times were fake because there's no hiding which one was real and which one how many times have
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you faked an orgasm I've done a few times to to stroke a man's ego for sure I'm trying not to do
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that because I don't think that's a smart thing to do but I'm just saying I'm such a simp that I've
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that I've done that that's how big of a simp I am I'm not about I think faking orgasm I don't
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recommend it either not the right move you know no it it's not I don't think only men are allowed to
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fake orgasms oh I'm just kidding nobody should fake an orgasm I don't even know no they really
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shouldn't anyways next clip watch there's more how do you know how many more we have Nick is it
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okay go ahead he doesn't want to wife you up it's because he doesn't see you like that don't be
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confused don't think he's going through things he's not going through things he's not having a hard time
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and like he just doesn't like you like that he might like you he definitely might like you but he
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doesn't like you enough and that should be enough of a reason to exit if you want a relationship out
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of him because a man that doesn't like you enough will fucking ruin your life if you like him too much
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if he marmar's comment marmar's comment is so funny he's like and his grandma didn't die
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that's our podcast okay shout out to my mom yeah I think uh yeah what was the last part he'll ruin
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ruin if you like a man more than he likes you yeah he could really potentially fucking ruin your life
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okay all right yeah next how many more do we have Nick is that a lot
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go ahead let's blast these I don't know what to say for myself let's blast these I don't back
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anything I said okay you should look out for that if you're going to deal with a man does he pay
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attention to my wants needs and desires do you desire a couple bills taken care of do you desire
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ice cream on your period do you desire flowers in the day then get that it's completely in reach
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you're just asking the wrong you're not asking too much you should look out for that if you're
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going to do asking too much flowers on a first date that's crazy you think that's too much that's a lot
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flowers on what I'm trying to take donated $100 what the hell sorry few hours behind don't want to
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derail conversation but I think the reason they associate p words with virginity is because they
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themselves lost their v at a very young age cue for panel damn paladins why you gotta damn you
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bringing it there okay like they're asking when we lost our virginity sure I guess we can go around
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the table on that really quick when did everybody lose their virginity I lost mine at 17 I was 13
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that's like junior high school that's the only other guy I dated what the fuck is going on in
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junior high school shit I was in woodshop class I think worse now I think worse now
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it's it's it's getting worse and worse for sure yeah like that's probably more the norm yeah you're
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saying how everything's fast now because of the internet I feel like that's also affecting our
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young generations that's a good point internet is fucking shit up I were hold on but I had I had
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like dial up well I just I don't even feel bad about losing my virginity at such a young age because
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that was my only other boyfriend like I was with him up until I was with my other boyfriend and
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we were both virgins and that was my first love so going around the table though uh what were the ages
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uh 23 late bloomer yeah I love that for you there you go uh 15
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said I started being like um you know sexual at like 13 but I didn't get penetrated
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damn all right this is graphic it's fuck like what the bleachers like you're given like terrible
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like when I was like 13 I got fingered in stuff like that in the what oh okay it was the beach
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while paladins donated 99 dollars I called it and yes that is exactly what I was asking
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well I like the yeah 17 19 can I like skip this question
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if you want I guess yeah yeah I have a daughter I want to skip
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oh okay all right okay Andrew what about you you stud
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uh I think I was 14 damn oh shit Andrew put in work
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damn I told you he's a handsome guy right try this guy all
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he had this pick of the I had a lot of sisters they had a lot of good looking friends what do you
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want oh hold on okay I thought you were about to pause after sisters I was like yeah Andrew that's
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not that's illegal yeah no that's not where I was going with that no I had a lot of sisters
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I was like that's crazy Andrew what do you want me to say okay yeah yeah Andrew uh had riz
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he had a line around the block okay I'm sorry that's right uh where thank you law paladins we
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were talking about the clip did we already react to the clip I don't know got next clip
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we got this boys we got this we're almost I don't do situationships you're not gonna be
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fucking me and not claiming me I don't have casual sex nothing is casual about having sex with me
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I don't play any of that if you're fucking me you got a boyfriend no you got a boyfriend no
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y'all seeing somebody no no they miss my only questions
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I don't do I have no idea why I picked that clip I don't know I just it caught it it was one of the
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clips okay I guess next I don't know why I picked that one
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like to dress like a slut and just keep it to myself the same way men like to act like they have
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money and they don't they be wearing the chains and they have you know the designer this the designer
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that not a dollar in their damn pocket though gas on fucking empty so I like to wear the smallest
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skirts the tallest boots the biggest hoops the tiniest top and then prance around and piss men
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off because they can't have me I like to dress like a slut and you like to prance around and piss
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men off yeah it's a hobby it's a hobby it is
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false advertisement what can I say for myself I can't say much that's the truth
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okay it's like when you buy something off of amazon it looks like normal size like a crock
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pot and it's like the really mini ones and you're like fuck scammed three grains of rice later
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catfished catfished three grains of rice potfished that happened to me no I guess I don't know
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she painted now I'm not in my husband era I'm in my era of like you want to treat me good you
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want to relieve my stress you want to make me feel good I might make you feel good back and I'm not
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gonna leave your stress back though I might give you a little more but you'd like it right now I'm
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not in my way wait what what does that even look she's hiding behind me that's me being toxic that's
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just me being toxic but you're not in your husband era no so what's your era right now so my era
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is basically like I just want to have fun dating experiences okay but I don't want to get serious
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but I also can acknowledge that dating there's at least one person that could catch feelings so I
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could take that into account so can you can you answer for me I I realized this I was kind of going
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through my notes here you said that you don't do situationships but said that it's okay to do here
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no I know she's the one who said she's I was giving an opposing view she's the one who said she's
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not with it I said I am yeah I know but but but you make the claim to your to your followers one
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thing and then another here I'm just curious if you could speak to that what was my on the
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situation on the situationships right you said you know here that it's okay for us to have a
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situationship right you know you're not opposed to that correct and but you made a video where you
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said that you were opposed to it right no that was me okay so we have okay so we have different
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I have a man and he's a good man and you're my homegirl and you're hating and he's a good
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fucking man I'm gonna need you to shut the fuck up because you're not eating my and you're not paying
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my bills and misery loves company and baby I can't be yours if I have a man I was extremely high
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recording that I just want to I don't know why I chose that one I'm just thinking like I don't
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this is where I'm like what's the truth what's not because like you're talking about pussy eating
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but like also I've been celibate for two years well I bet that's two things are true at once like
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yeah no it's um you know you know I'm just uh you know can a girl reminisce yeah can a girl
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reminisce I got quite I just have questions I have questions I've got my coochie like next I guess
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oh okay I guess we're back exposing alpha male podcast talking why they go for young women
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is because they're easier to manipulate so there's a reason why that older man doesn't have a woman
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around his age because he can't get one because that woman is so much more smarter and experienced
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than this 19 20 21 year old why they go I got so many comments for that so much engagement they're
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like I'm like um well I mean but they're right like that man that makes no sense they're right that
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I'm so stupid well I mean if that's the that position is stupid I'm not saying you're stupid
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well that's what that's what I just said and you're like that right I'm like yeah no I didn't I didn't
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say that you're stupid I said the position's stupid okay so they're right they're right about the
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position the position doesn't make any sense like it's just kind of an assertion right yeah I
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personally feel like we've really really delved in on the topic on age difference and dating so I
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really feel like I really really feel like we haven't I really really feel like I really feel
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like we should revisit it because I really really feel like you're very evasive can we do about your
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answers that's why I really feel like that you know evasive he says evasive okay so what do you
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oh I've got a question for you uh what's the oldest guy you've ever dated 39 wait and you're 25
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how old are you how old were you when you dated him
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so you're 25 to be dating basically a 40 year old yeah I did and this is problematic
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not for you so it's rules for thee and not for me wait I got wait wait wait I just have a couple
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of questions okay how long did you date him for a few months that was when I was speaking of that
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ended up having a girlfriend I stopped seeing him because that came out how long ago did you date him
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I literally just stopped seeing him right before we went to Miami and we went to Miami we go so two
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weeks uh two weeks and some change wait and you said you were dating him for three months
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like four four but you said you've been single for five years and then you said you've been celibate
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for 10 months so did you not I was celibate she that was the longest oh you're right that was the
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longest amount of time okay you did say so you lost your celibacy to him yes aka recently yes okay okay
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okay and he wait he dumped you no I left him because it came out he had a girlfriend so I left
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okay gotcha so but if he hadn't had a girlfriend would you have stayed with him
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I possibly would yeah so I guess the age gap thing really isn't much of a problem but we started off
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with 40 and 18 that is a that's a big you're talking about you're talking about a couple of
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years difference here so much can change though but from my 18 year old self to now I still feel
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like cortex is fully developed but I can acknowledge me and this man we did not have that much in common
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and it took and you would still be with him it took a lot of um what's the word boo convincing
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convincing and all that for me to give him the chance and then I ended up liking him but off the
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bat I was saying like no I'm not into it but he ended up showing persistent he was okay so so wait a
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second so let me just get this right so you ended up liking him yeah and you would still be with him
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right now if it didn't come out that he had a different girlfriend other than yeah if they're
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nickelodeon donated 69 dollars these are 12 year olds trapped in adult bodies they dress like it
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act like it are just as intelligent ironic they complain about men going after women like them give big
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wow thank you for that input but 69 dollars huh 69 dollars I like that they gave you 69 dollars for
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that I change I respect that I change it up TTS is not 69 wait what's the oldest guy you've dated
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uh same 39 not the same guy not the same guy wait but how could you guys have have had massive age
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gap relationships and I yes and that's what I was saying like I can acknowledge and and I only dated
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that guy for a few weeks and I was shown very quickly why like I was like what the fuck am I
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doing and she didn't break herself and same thing with her she was like what the fuck am I doing
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we were both like we lived no that's not what she said she said that she would still be with that guy
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if she hadn't found out that she that he had a girlfriend she wasn't like what the fuck am I
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doing she found out he was messing around with another girl that's totally different thing than
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what the fuck am I doing uh well I feel like there was a lot of conversations between us
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like in private that was like what the fuck am I doing and oh shit desert joe donated 69 dollars
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too much time has been spent giving these two strumpets a platform the rest of the panel didn't get
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nearly enough engagement everyone has lost brain cells listening to their incoherent views
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thank you desert joe appreciate it the donation thank you thank you desert joe
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we didn't know all these videos were going to come up we're just as surprised as you guys
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yeah so are you um are you saying then that you don't have any problem or objection to 25 year olds
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you know dating 40 year olds I don't I think that's a more approach I do think because you're
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saying oh it's a few more years I think 18 to 25 I'm not who I was at 18 I'm a lot smarter I'm just
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everything's different in my life now that's what we're saying but I think it was yeah but I mean
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that was going to be the case when you're 35 too so should we wait till you're 35 no but I think
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it was alarming hearing 40 and 18 it's very it's very alarming to me how alarming basic things are
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to you so I don't understand why the amount of alarm that you have how alarmed you are is actually
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informing us of anything 18 to 40 very very little distinction between that and 23 24 and 40 very very
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little distinction there like what is it you're talking about you're talking about three four
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years we can just agree to disagree how about that we got well I mean I don't think we can because it
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seems like you're preaching do do rules for the but not for me age gap relationships don't actually
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seem to bother you I could you just become you just become alarmed for some reason that oh now
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they're adults but they're not 25 I don't I don't know why that matters like if you were 23 would
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that have been worse I also can give advice based on my own experiences like learn from my mistakes and
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I could also give better advice than I give to myself as could most people yeah but why would you give
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that advice if you still would be with the guy if he hadn't been with some other chick that's what I
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don't get because I just personally feel 18 is too young for a 40 year old but I'm not going to
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stop it they're legal and they could do whatever but I just personally would feel the way about it
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but that's just me and it goes back to you saying like oh you just want us to say it's like I guess
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yeah we're just looking at it sideways it's not illegal it's not like we're gonna stop anyone from
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doing it we're just we're just talking our shit that's what it really comes down to yeah I know
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I'm just talking my shit back and I'm saying it's incoherent it doesn't make any sense I don't really
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understand the position and you yourselves are involved in age gap relationships and according
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to her at least that one may have worked out she liked the guy there's no problem there until she
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found out he had a girlfriend might still be with him right now and maybe live happily ever after
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well I believe in a divine intervention I wasn't meant to be with that man
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and where is where does this divine intervention come from God
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I have dreams signs and it's just up to you to pay attention to them
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yeah what church do you go to is it saint baptist church
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oh so um where how do you know that these signs are divine and not satanic
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how do I believe they're not satanic because if it was satanic
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yeah how do you know how do you know that they're divine and not satanic
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wait wait wait they wouldn't be for your greater good
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yeah because I feel like saint would bring you down in life
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oh okay does God want you to have sexual intercourse outside of marriage
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okay does does your God want you to have sexual intercourse outside of marriage
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because that's for the greater good that you have sex outside of marriage right
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if God wants you to have sex outside of marriage
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if God wants you to have sex out of marriage
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I feel like God wouldn't want me to spread myself thin
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I don't think he gives a fuck about marriage
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