Andrew Wilson vs. Anti-Whatever E-GIRLS?! Super Mega Feminist HEATED Debate?! | Dating Talk #174
Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk Podcast, we have our first guest, Maddie, a streamer, streamer and streamer extraordinaire! We talk about her journey with Bitcoin, her experience in the Bitcoin space, and how she got into the game.
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going to upload but we got two up so far nick got beat up a couple weeks ago so that's up by girl
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so that's on there um oh last thing some haters review bombed us on spotify that's that's apple
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music there if you know it's fine nick so that's that's our uh apple podcast reviews and they just
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review bombed us they got it was uh what do they call that we got brigaded so the link is in the
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and then also hold on what's the other thing wait maddie you're pressing on the yeah you're gonna
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like get burned um oh we have spotify too if you can tab over to that one we also got review bombed
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on spotify three stars that's ridiculous review bombed if you guys can give us five stars on spotify
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too links are at the very bottom of the description and mods if you can spam it in the chat all right
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without further ado or actually hold on disclaimer first the views expressed by the guests do not
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necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel with that said without further ado we're
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going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and
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occupation go ahead i'm brooklyn 25 um from the ie brooklyn 25 from the ie inland empire yes and i work in
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a cannabis production okay 25 and uh cannabis product and you guys got you got a podcast too
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though yes yeah we're gonna react to some of your clips they're very entertaining uh 25 you're uh born
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and raised inland empire or okay uh get too specific i'm too wild now okay what about you my name is
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kelsey i'm 29 i'm from the bay area and i do structural design structural design and uh born and
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raised in the bay yeah okay what about you my name is lena i'm 25 and i'm also from the inland empire
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what do you do for work cannabis production okay cannabis okay and then you also do your podcast here
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uh you guys are not related right we are are you like cousins or twins fraternal wait really yeah oh
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is it is that true though is it actually related or yeah yeah
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that the fraternal that's when you you don't look alike yeah yeah fraternal but you were born at the
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same time right yeah came out the womb she rocket launched she's she's the older sibling well um i
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hope you don't mind the little pushback here so early on you said you're 25 years old well there's a
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post on your instagram that would indicate i think you're 31 31 well if i have this correctly not to call
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you out here but we do prefer uh i believe there was a post on your instagram that indicated that i
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was 31 not that you were 31 but back in 2022 i believe there was a post that said it was your 29th
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birthday so i'm a little confused there oh no definitely not am i wrong page
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well you sure i yeah so you so did you make a mistake on your instagram or i think i put 20 fine
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i don't think i put 29 you didn't put 20 so am i'm i'm wrong here then is what you're saying i put 20
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fine 20 20 fine like oh did i get this wrong hold on one sec here i'm gonna have to you know what
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i'm gonna continue on with introductions but i we we gotta get to the bottom of this because i could
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have made a mistake and i would feel terrible if i was calling you out erroneously go ahead
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my name is destiny suzanne uh i'm from dallas texas and i'm an artist um i do music hip-hop and r&b
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and i also do only fans on the side age um 22 i'm gonna be 23 this year okay 22
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and you you said you're an artist so like you're a singer yeah i sing uh i do club music
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and i also dance you do club music and you know like are you a rapper
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poquito wait are those prescription lenses or okay what's your correction no they're not i'm just
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okay okay wait can we so you rap yeah can can we hear a freestyle i don't know can somebody drop a
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beat what you got for us brooklyn i know you're you got you got some what you got brooklyn drop us a
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beat i think you might be better at a beat i don't know where to boom maybe not on the table
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oh so you really want me to yeah go yeah go for it
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it's giving up sex because i'm pretty yeah i know he fucking with me ay
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say he want a slim thick bad bitch ice fish yeah he need him a little desi
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i'm never for real i'm just flirting but still got him dropping a bed for that berkey
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he calling me bae when i'm riding that shit oh and a dick i be talking
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do you have a music video out that we could yeah there is actually
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yeah there's a music video for that one there's a music video out for that one okay uh can we find
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it on your you've got like a youtube channel or something um this is on like my record labels it's
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c4s tv it's called and them shorts that's a feature song though so it's gonna have like other rappers on
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okay i see um brooklyn i actually you said 25 you did say 25 i was wrong i was wrong i i don't know
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how to read i'm actually illiterate i thought it said not 29 she wrote 25 i'm in the one of the rare
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few times i'm ever wrong on something so okay all right there you go all right uh
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holy shit did you guys see that that fucking mouse came out of nowhere okay go ahead
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hello uh i'm lizzie i'm 35 i'm from the um the bay as well uh santa clara to be specific and i am a
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receptionist sorry uh you said 25 no 35 oh 35 okay all right and i'm just getting all the ages all
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fucked up today and um yeah i actually i want to blame our totally anonymous nameless researcher
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that we definitely have for for the mix-up it definitely wasn't my fault but i apologize i
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apologize for the mix-up okay go ahead what about you i'm lily i'm 22 i live in santa barbara right now
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and my full-time occupation is i'm a full-time student at ucsb right now all right what are you studying
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i'm studying environmental studies and dance i'm a double major double major okay are you
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specializing in any kind of dance or like ballet or no i kind of did like all styles like jazz or
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yeah tap but you did ballet yes i did everything can we see a pirouette like you want me to do it
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right now i think maybe plie is a bit more like right now yeah why not okay i can do it oh she's
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gonna do it okay oh do you yeah go for it okay pirouette's a bit much for the space yeah i think
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a plie is a bit more appropriate all right we're gonna rate rate her plie out of 10
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rate it out of 10 that's it yeah 10 out of 10 i thought you go typically isn't there a bit more
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i don't know that's not for plie this is relevant oh okay all right i'm obviously a ballet
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expert all right thank you for that appreciate it that was good so okay environmental studies and
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dance all right and you're going into your senior year um i actually already graduated oh you're done
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yeah i'm just doing summer school right now okay are you gonna go to grad school or um tbd
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i don't have any congratulations thank you what about you i'm sadie i'm 21 and i'm an snp for a
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school district special needs prayer educator okay i'm doing right now yeah do you do uh like any
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consulting on that like sometimes nick needs a little help uh yeah i can work on him for sure
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i do one-on-one sometimes no okay just check nick i can do that yeah get her contact in
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all right what about you hi i'm alicia um i am 36 years old i'm live in la uh i'm a stay-at-home mom
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all right cool uh really quick just going around the table uh who have you graduated from university
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yeah i graduated from cal state fullerton gotcha what did you get your degree in sociology
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okay you uc davis and i went for civil engineering sorry what repeat uc davis and i went to civil or
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civil engineering civil engineering okay i didn't uh go to university i did some community college
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you went to the school of hard knocks yeah we went to our university bimbosity university
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the boss the bimbosity university bimbosity yeah there you go okay all right
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okay yeah i did some community college but i don't have a degree gotcha did you anything for you
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uh yeah i have a bachelor's in political science okay very cool very cool nick do we have andrew yet
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all right try to give him a call guys we do have andrew wilson mike haucasian joining us
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in just a moment uh why don't we just get started in you got him okay uh hang tight there guys for
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just a second we have the great he is a gentleman he is a scholar he's a brave and a decent man he's a
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pioneer andrew wilson andrew can you hear us i can hear you how is everybody this evening
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good amazing doing good doing good andrew would you be able to i don't know if you're the lighting's
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just weird on our end are you able to boost your camera light or is it gonna burn your eyeballs
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um well i just turned the backlighting off that's why it's a little dimmer you said you didn't like the
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backlighting yeah not the backlighting but the lighting on you or yeah i can't do much about that
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tonight oh okay all good all good so andrew want you to introduce yourself yeah my name is andrew
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wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's uh to my knowledge the fastest growing debate channel
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anywhere online i'm a political analyst a political satirist and uh i like to engage in debates from
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time to time well there you go in fact i caught some of your debate yesterday with uh based oracle
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and i just want you to know andrew next time i see you i demand a tuna sandwich with mayonnaise
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and a bar of chalky chocolate a bar of chocolate i need a bar did he specify was a dark chocolate or
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he did not specify what type of chocolate he required but uh just that he required some some
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but he definitely wasn't trolling okay well next time i see you i'm i'm i'm expecting you know okay
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anyways uh yeah yeah i'll bring i'll i'll make sure i'll make sure you know i'll be down there in what
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a week or something like this i'll make sure that uh yes i bring the i bring the chocolate yes guys we
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do have andrew wilson back in studio for what the fifth time i think fifth or six yeah i think it's
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i think it's the fifth time nice so we're gonna go around the table once more what is everybody's
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current relationship status so are you single relationship talking stage situationship friends
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with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult harem whatever it may be if you're single how
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long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead
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i'm single i have been single for three years and my longest relationship was eight years
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all right so your longest relationship eight years were you guys married or no no no kids no from what
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age to what age was the relate i'm assuming it's the one that ended three years ago yeah okay so you're
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from 23 to like 15 to 23 basically or okay yes so you guys met in high school yes high school
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sweethearts who broke up with who i broke up with him why is that i think just getting together super
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young doesn't give you the greatest chance of staying together all right so any other relationships
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besides that one not that i count because i mean i had one boyfriend before that but i was like 12
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yeah i wouldn't count that any rebounds after the uh eight-year relationship i talked to one guy
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and then i since i've been single i just been abstaining from sex so you've been celibate for
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three years or mostly uh two over two years celibate for for two years okay got it um
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but have you been dating at all no no okay uh so single for three years celibate for two
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longest relationship eight years okay what about you i'm in a relationship and have been for four
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and a half years all right longest relationship yes my longest this is your longest okay how did you
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guys meet um we went to high school together and then we reconnected through tinder reconnected through
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tinder okay did it start out casual and then became more serious or no it was serious right away
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okay he was one of the only people sure of tinder what about you i'm single my longest relationship was
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five years and what was the other question how long have you been uh single for i've been single for
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like three years or no five five five years yeah five years so your your relationship was
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from was that that was my high school sweetheart my only relationship so you dated from 15 to 20
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yeah okay because and you said you've been single 14 to 14 to yeah 19 20 okay you've been single for
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five years yes also celibate as like your friend here not as long as my sister but i was longest celibate
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for 10 months i recently broke it but we don't talk anymore wait you recently broke your celibacy
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well like a a few months ago okay but you were celibate for 10 months 10 months was my longest
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okay i see and then you broke it a couple months ago how long were you dating that guy
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uh just a few months a few months okay who broke up with who there i left him you left him yeah why is
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that he ended up having a girlfriend the whole time darn hate when that happens uh okay what about
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you um i'm single uh for like a week now oh shit okay but um one week my longest relationship was like
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seven years seven years damn lots of long long ass relationships tonight okay uh single as of a week
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ago yeah how long are you dating that that guy um we was kind of like on and off but this past time
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it was like a year a little over a year so to get like total a year but it was on and off for that
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year yeah okay how many times was it off and on a few it was more than 10 uh
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yeah maybe around there some people be breaking up every day you know it's like a hundred times
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they're off if you count those then yeah okay so then more often than not who was initiating the off
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um like who would end it even if it lasted like three days i'm not gonna lie like it would kind of
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be like both of us but okay split yeah now it's just kind of like um yeah i feel like it was a
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mutual thing okay each time like you know what i'm saying and who would be the one like trying to get
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back that's also the same like it's i think it was kind of like both of us you know what i'm saying
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it's like whoever ended this somebody would be trying to like you know reach out or whatever
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who most like so you said is it it ended a week ago so i mean pretty good chance you guys are going
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to get back together again no or this is the last i swear have you said that before though yes yeah you
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said it before but i swear all right and so what was the most uh what was the most uh recent reason for
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the for being off um i really spazzed low-key but um like he's one of those dudes that be going like
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on tiktok live and he'll like kiki with different girls you know what i'm saying he'll what a kiki
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kiki try to try to keep it you know do you know what do you know what kiki flirt and what is kiki
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friendly have you guys heard this way too friendly you guys familiar with the term yeah you guys know
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this term i've never heard the term never heard the term you know the term what's kiki key help us
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out here brooke uh i would think it's like just laughing making conversation i don't know is that
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laughing it is it's like you being way too friendly with other females you're kiki yeah kiki it don't
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gotta be just that though because it could be like you know females over there are other kiki
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you know what i'm saying so it's for different things but basically he was chatting with other
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females other females yeah and then he was saying he was gonna go home and he was trolling but like
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some life happened and where he actually did go home and then i just like spazzed out because i'm
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like a week ago you just said you was about to be right where this girl's at you know what i'm saying
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so like you slashed his tires or what happened no i mean like we wasn't like we was already that was
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like the last time you guys broke up yeah that was the last time we broke how many tires just three
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or you go for no you can only do you just do now you can't do three they switched it the insurance
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companies changed it up yeah okay all right okay so uh good to know good times good times
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lizzie what about you uh yes in a relationship it'll be three years this thursday actually
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and um my longest relationship was a little over four years okay what about you um i'm in the
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talking stage right now my longest relationship was about two years um yeah longest relationship
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two years you said yeah how long has the talking stage been going on like
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a month but like it's because he's also in europe right now does he go to ucsb or no he went to
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ucla how did uh how did you guys meet dating app or um i've actually known him since i was like five
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we went to elementary school middle school and high school together okay all right and uh so are you
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guys he's in europe how long is he in europe for a month one month yeah you have any concerns that i
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don't know if you guys exclusive monogamous no i kind of i kind of said that because i think he's
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like he's in europe you know you think he's probably don't let me piping down some dutch chicks what do you
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guys think that depends on what part on what he looks like and how much what depends on what part
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of europe um well he's six six oh i don't know if that it's over for her wait he's six six oh yeah
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athlete no oh just tall like lanky guy yeah like machine gun kelly a little thing than that he's a
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rapper also no okay does he have money he is a college student so probably no okay and so
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are you dating other people no not right now in hostels he was
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is that bad what is that what that means he might are like dormitories and you can just like hear
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people having sex okay he was with his sister though so like yeah you can hear people having
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sex like they were all staying in like a big one i think that's illegal though and like most of your
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most european countries you should let him know that i don't know anyways uh what about you i have
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a boyfriend boyfriend okay same one from his last time or last time yeah new guy two years and like
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nine months now two years nine months going well it's going well i think i did a brief review of
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your instagram i don't think you post him do you i don't why is that uh by his request no he does
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his own social media and i don't he doesn't post me i don't post him he doesn't post me my snapchat's
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a little different is he a content creator he is what's he do uh just stuff on tiktok um advice
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like he's relationship advice dances to k-pop songs or what he does like relationship advice kind of
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thing yeah and so i don't post him andrew tate that's your boyfriend um you know okay i'm just kidding
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does andrew take a relationship advice on them uh what about you uh i am married and this is my
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longest relationship we've been together for 16 years 16 years all right kids uh yes we have two
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kids two kids all right how long married uh a couple years it's last time i was kind of awkward
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because i'm saying we're legally married but we still haven't had our marriage or our wedding
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so we're still on that okay yeah got it okay all right uh andrew what about you
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yeah i've been in a relationship uh been married for over a decade okay cool cool yeah hey aren't you
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the uh aren't you that based catholic chick who came on here uh not that long ago when i was
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tangling up with millie weaver yes that's me yeah that is her yeah nice to see you again by the way
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nice you did really you did really good on that show i was impressed i gave you a shout out on
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twitter after it was done thank you so much yes i am not gonna be the base catholic lady though much
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longer what well because orthodox lady yeah yes oh shit we i knew it i knew that yes is it because
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of andrew well no oh well it's a long story but um i just started digging kind of deeper into
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the schism and i realized i didn't want to submit to papal authority yes yes okay there you go join
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join the duck site all right rock and roll so to uh start off the show here with uh something
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a little on the lighter side we recently had the presidential debates okay who watched just show
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fans who watched the debate between trump and biden show of hands just just you two all right so
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really serious dating question here totally dating related if you had to choose nick pull up the photos
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would you date uh joe biden or president trump you have to choose one in their current state you can't be
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like young trump you know which so brooklyn you gotta date one oh my god which one do you pick
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to date you don't worry about their politics or maybe do i maybe worry about their politics i don't know
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i'm gonna go joe biden because he doesn't have the greatest memory and i think i could use that to my
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advantage okay all right interesting what and so how would you use it to your advantage i would take it
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day by day and probably come up with something malicious every single day to you know get what
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i want but i know his memory loss would definitely help our situation you just start you know
00:28:10.260
siphoning from his bank account exactly just put your name in his will siphoning okay good to know
00:28:18.720
all right she the dementia patient all right what about you it's real tough choice two very solid
00:28:25.620
candidates but i think i would probably very solid yeah choice yes great very high volume men um i'd
00:28:30.820
probably go for donald trump just because i think he'd be very interesting to see how he is behind
00:28:35.280
closed doors behind closed doors he'd never get bored
00:28:37.940
not in that wait can you justify that a little bit like who is he when he's not putting on a
00:28:47.360
base okay are you like saying that he's like better anyways um what about you uh i'll go with
00:28:59.300
biden neither am i tight but i would go with biden i feel like trump like you'd smash biden
00:29:04.900
instead of trump you got smashed i have to smash yeah it's the like this is your life partner
00:29:11.200
for like the three years they're gonna still be alive that's a i'm not that's not a threat
00:29:17.020
i feel like you should pick trump trump so we're not fucking the same man oh but trump's wife is just
00:29:25.460
well assume she doesn't seem like she's getting pleased so maybe biden has a few tricks up his
00:29:29.860
sleeve wait trump's wife isn't getting pleased yeah okay all right so you'd pick trump no biden oh biden
00:29:39.720
okay we'd have to take three okay what about you i don't even know probably trump i don't even know
00:29:46.020
like neither of them are like you're if you're sitting here making me pick one right now you gotta
00:29:53.200
yeah you gotta pick yeah i'm gonna go with trump okay what about you well it's a catch-22 because
00:29:59.700
personally me lizzie would choose trump but then my family would disown me so fine biden then i guess
00:30:06.180
okay it's a tough it's a tough one all right what about you um i'd probably choose biden the orange
00:30:13.680
and the toupee just don't do it for me does he have a toupee i thought it was i've seen the wind
00:30:18.300
i've seen evidence i don't know if it's true that's just like a comb over but either way it doesn't do
00:30:23.600
it for me okay all right what about you i'm gonna go trump gonna go trump okay all right uh trump
00:30:31.060
unfortunately maddie which one for sure okay there you go all right there you have it folks um
00:30:38.880
andrew which uh andrew wait hold on uh i'm trying to think who the kamala harris or
00:30:49.220
i don't know tulsi gabbard i don't know that's not fair hillary remember you don't you don't
00:30:58.340
remember trump's wife's name well i was thinking like who would run for for pret like who would
00:31:06.040
actually run for office but so i guess melania yeah but she's not gonna run i don't know anyways
00:31:13.540
whatever if you want to answer i guess andrew but um so i mean if it came down to tulsi gabbard or
00:31:22.200
um you know like you know kamala harris then definitely tulsi gabbard if it came down to
00:31:30.860
uh trump's wife melania or any of these democrat women it would be it would definitely be melania so
00:31:38.780
i mean yeah basically across the board i would pick the republican chick there's no doubt about that
00:31:42.900
all right good to know good to know we're gonna just jump right into uh some of our pre-show stuff
00:31:48.340
here really quick so i think wait what was the other thing we had to react to nick
00:31:54.660
yeah actually i'm gonna do two chats and then we'll get into we'll do some uh clip reactions so
00:32:02.520
uh can i have you on if you can see can i have you read yeah a question for the table including the
00:32:09.020
men what is a bigger step in the relationship the first kiss or the first purposeful loud fart
00:32:16.040
one means more kisses the other means less stomach aches wow okay uh yeah what's the
00:32:22.440
bigger step in the relationship first kiss or first i'm gonna go with the part because it took me like
00:32:29.520
six years and it was an accident the fart is a bigger step in a relationship yeah i would think
00:32:36.480
for the man it'd be the kiss and for the woman it's the fart for sure okay i would say the fart because
00:32:43.100
it's just that's embarrassing and i mean i feel like i would be embarrassed it was an accident when
00:32:50.420
it first happened with me too i accidentally made my man pancakes he weren't cooked all the way through
00:32:54.740
i was running to the bathroom and he hurt me damn okay all right no i would definitely say the fart
00:33:02.000
yep yeah i'm gonna say first kiss it's more romantic i want a bigger step you're like well then i haven't
00:33:11.040
taken that step and i'm not going to okay all right the fart for sure the fart the kiss okay i'd say
00:33:22.480
the fart for sure i don't know first kiss it's just that's a throwaway first date but you ain't you
00:33:28.600
ain't foreign on the first date i mean unless it's that you know whatever all right some people
00:33:33.800
some really just thought-provoking questions coming in thank you john's john smith and i'll just pull
00:33:39.680
this last chat up uh anybody here read french okay i'll have to do it la revolution culturelle
00:33:49.920
okay thank you man appreciate it uh send that shit in english next time though uh we're gonna get
00:34:19.360
into immediately some reacts you guys have you guys had one specific viral clip but we have
00:34:24.580
actually quite a few clips from your guys's podcast very entertaining a couple things i agree with a
00:34:29.560
couple things i disagree with and uh we'll just get right into it nick pull that first clip uh so did
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you restart it this is a good one this one went super viral all right it should be vital to just play
00:34:40.980
from here make it one bigger nick like zoom in yeah there we go go ahead i'm just not gonna have a
00:34:48.840
man's baby just to have a man's baby if a man wants me to have his baby i have two requirements
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you're gonna get a tattoo of my face on your body because it's a body for a body my body's gonna change
00:34:57.640
forever your body's gonna change forever and my push present is either a car or a house preferably
00:35:02.520
both but i definitely want a tattoo of my face on the father of my child's body preferably stomach
00:35:08.640
because my stomach is gonna look different after a baby so your stomach should look different too
00:35:12.260
i'm just not gonna have a man's baby all right so what is a what's a push present it's when you
00:35:19.580
push shoulders through your coochie and you risk your life to bring in another life and you get
00:35:26.020
you get a present gift and a lot of people were saying the baby was the present i don't agree with
00:35:31.600
that i think the baby is a lifelong responsibility and it's also a blessing but it's definitely not a
00:35:35.900
present i think you risk your life pushing out a baby yeah i mean people can do this at home
00:35:41.320
i i plan to do it at home yeah it's not life-threatening but some people only for some
00:35:46.600
people yeah some people have but that's an exception and that's not it's not life-threatening people do
00:35:53.000
it all the time it's not like back in the days women would lose their lives more before
00:35:58.960
met more modern medicine more modern yeah i'm just uh i'm just curious if you don't mind if i follow up
00:36:04.840
on this um when you say a push present a present is usually something that you give to somebody else
00:36:11.900
right you don't usually get yourself a present so who is this present for the present is for for me
00:36:18.940
from my husband who i'll have my baby by so your husband's giving you the gift of a child
00:36:26.060
um well we're making the child together but i expect a gift after so i don't understand who's
00:36:35.760
the present for the presents for me so you buy and it's a present for himself as well because
00:36:42.040
you know happy would you consider it to be a really sad birthday party if you were the only one who
00:36:47.300
showed up to it and you bought your own presents for your birthday party um that just depends in the
00:36:54.020
financial state i'm at and where i'm at at the time i think i don't think of can you give me like
00:36:59.300
an example any example you could possibly think of of it's your birthday and you're the only one
00:37:07.120
at a party for yourself and you bought the presents for your birthday and then you open your own
00:37:12.960
presents that you bought for yourself can you give me an example of any case where that wouldn't be
00:37:18.260
totally sad and pathetic maybe wrapping it would be a little overboard but i don't think buying
00:37:24.780
yourself gifts for your own birthday is a terrible idea i do it every year yeah but that's just buying
00:37:30.800
yourself something it's not a gift right is it isn't kind of a gift definitionally a thing for
00:37:35.760
somebody else a present is usually something you get for somebody i like i don't really think that we
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would in kind of the common use that when people say the word present they mean uh for me it
00:37:47.240
it usually means for you yeah so i'm just wondering who's the present it's not for the father right
00:37:55.460
the present's not for the right it's for you yes so maybe so you just use push present because it
00:38:00.780
just sounds clever maybe i didn't make up the term you know it's i wouldn't be the first person
00:38:07.640
requesting or receiving a push present yeah push packing push presents go back like
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so it's basically what the husband buys the woman something for after birth yeah okay the push present
00:38:21.180
just so we have this the push present you're the present isn't the kid the present is what the
00:38:28.780
husband gives you as a present because you gave birth yes go ahead okay i see so the baby itself is not
00:38:36.660
the gift yeah the baby is not the baby is not a gift okay so you're getting a gift and you consider
00:38:43.700
that you deserve the gift because you had the baby yes okay so then this means that the year you are
00:38:50.940
giving the baby to the man uh the idea would be to raise the child together okay but you just deserve
00:38:59.060
a present well i uh sat and i did the pregnancy i'm the only one that can go through that so
00:39:05.040
yeah i would get the present okay i get i get it now i think i understand so you have baby you get a
00:39:12.600
present because you have a baby you said maybe yeah you have baby you get present because you have baby
00:39:21.200
yes okay got it is it less meaningful because you're asking for it though no i think it's a good
00:39:28.660
idea to put your expectations on the table so like i want this when i give birth and you're going to be
00:39:34.860
like yay okay exactly so what if it doesn't happen what are some things that a husband deserves a present
00:39:41.460
for that's a good question i haven't really thought about that but i do love to give i'm not just
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someone that receives but um i think presents could be given all the time i don't think that
00:39:55.360
there needs to be a special occasion necessarily i think it'd be nice to see something when you're
00:40:00.460
out if it reminds you of someone you get it for them and you want a house yes or a car i think right
00:40:07.360
or a car can it be like a like a pre-owned uh toyota civic is that what they're called can it be a tiny
00:40:14.720
home honda civic oh my god obviously not a car guy that wouldn't be my preferred like 100k miles
00:40:21.620
i don't think that would be the smartest car to put a baby in
00:40:25.260
okay a toyota range rover is that even a toyota god what is wrong with me today
00:40:32.540
toyota forerunner you think of forerunner forerunner yeah which one's the range rover
00:40:36.780
uh is that a jeep is no the range rover is the brand it's its own brand
00:40:41.380
oh what's it called uh take back my man card i guess i don't know um i think it was the hundred
00:40:51.260
thousand miles that scared me off not necessarily the car um and then the tattoo you want the man
00:40:58.620
should get a tattoo of your face yeah on his belly yeah preferably on the belly yeah like you
00:41:04.960
would you accept like arm someone has a tattoo of my face on their arm i would i'd want the stomach
00:41:11.000
somebody already has a tattoo of your face on their arm yeah she didn't ask for that no it's
00:41:15.640
like a fan or something like a guy you dated the was it the eight year guy he has a he's he's got a
00:41:25.020
tattoo on your arm he has a tattoo of my face on his arm i'm dyslexic today or something he has a
00:41:32.080
tattoo of your face on his arm yeah when did he how far into the relationship did he get that
00:41:36.440
we were probably together already seven years now did you ask for him to do that or he just did it
00:41:41.420
it was a surprise okay do you have a photo of it on your instagram anywhere we can find it or
00:41:46.120
i don't or is it private i don't think okay that's fine i was just curious um so tattoo
00:41:52.780
of your face on the man's stomach i mean this is uh assuming that the man i would end up with
00:42:00.460
would already have tattoos this is not like if i got with the guy that had no tattoos i would think
00:42:05.540
okay you know sure body for body body for body body for body okay uh just question how many kids
00:42:13.000
do you want to have i would like to adopt but uh maybe two of my own and then two hundred dollars
00:42:22.640
just one sec the best present to give is hawk tour patrice o'neill said it best men want to be alone
00:42:28.920
but we don't want to be by ourselves ladies remember varg comes as a base model you're not special
00:42:36.080
damn okay he's going off there um the best present the hawk too you've seen that video i've seen the
00:42:44.680
video that's really not what i that doesn't really do it for for the boys this i don't know what why
00:42:54.160
this like obsession with that like is it that hard to like spit on a just to spit anybody can
00:43:03.360
spit i mean everyone has their own requirements and their own request yeah you know but it's just
00:43:08.280
like why is everyone going crazy i think it's just funny but it's like anybody can do that shit
00:43:14.080
anyways um wait so okay you want to i would like to have kids maybe adopt but i would uh like to have
00:43:20.600
two of my own two of your own okay i see if you guys end up having uh twins or like triplets would
00:43:28.280
he have to get three of your heads like a i think with that if i had twins or triplets hopefully not
00:43:39.720
but i would i'm fine with the one face just i'm probably gonna have to get a nicer car a nicer house
00:43:46.400
gotcha oh one question going back so that is a clip from your podcast your podcast is called what
00:43:51.840
something for that ass podcast can you explain um what the the title something for that ass it's just
00:43:59.280
like um you know we have something for that ass we have something for you like you you do we have
00:44:07.360
something to say like something for that ass for for that ass like is it a specific ass no it's anyone
00:44:14.280
it's my ass it's the viewer's ass i thought it was like something for that ass like that's a
00:44:21.300
thousand dollars for that ass more like something for anyone's ass that watches it something and so
00:44:29.900
the content is something and the ass is the the viewer yeah okay all right so i got a quick question
00:44:39.120
for you i wanted to follow up i was thinking about this um i hadn't really heard this idea of a body
00:44:44.420
for a body can i just get a a point of clarification is the idea behind this that your body is in some
00:44:51.940
way being destroyed and therefore uh you want the other person to make a sacrifice as well with their
00:44:58.660
body because you're making a sacrifice with your own is that is that kind of what the logic is here
00:45:03.820
yes okay so then if you have an abortion what should happen to you if i have an abortion what
00:45:11.400
should happen to me um yeah body for a body right i'm a little confused on the question
00:45:17.860
what should happen to me if i were to get an abortion yeah body for a body
00:45:23.020
uh well i wouldn't be going through the pregnancy so yeah i know but you know there was your body
00:45:31.540
there was another there was another person who was involved here right and you destroyed that
00:45:36.940
person so what should happen to you body for a body
00:45:40.740
so you're saying if i were to get an abortion and they were to already had gotten the tattoo or
00:45:48.520
you're saying just i'm the reason i'm saying no i'm saying that if you have an abortion killing a
00:45:54.700
baby so if you kill a baby right if and the baby has a body and you've destroyed the body
00:46:00.640
what should be the punishment for your body i don't know i guess that's up to god i don't
00:46:06.940
really have an answer why can't it be up to man i mean i think it could be up to man too right
00:46:12.700
i haven't really thought about that oh you haven't thought about it well i'm just saying following the
00:46:17.700
logic of uh you destroy body therefore they must destroy body on your behalf what if you destroy
00:46:23.840
another body i think in that case wouldn't the logic follow that then something bad should happen to
00:46:30.080
your body what do you think would be appropriate uh well i don't know but the death penalty maybe
00:46:37.080
death penalty for abortion um i mean that's your your thoughts and your well no i'm just saying
00:46:43.760
logically if it's if it's just well it's not so so the reason the reason you're saying get the tattoo
00:46:49.660
is because that is some kind of sacrifice from your body that's in some way in your mind equalizing
00:46:55.580
the sacrifice that your body makes but what if the sacrifice is much worse than that it's like
00:47:00.620
almost a human sacrifice level because you've destroyed the entire body of the other individual
00:47:05.380
shouldn't kind of the sacrifice on the other end be equal to that isn't that what the logic is here
00:47:11.240
i think now we're getting into abortion talk i think if you're going to get an abortion you think
00:47:17.680
that's the right thing to do then you're doing what you should think what you think would be best for
00:47:21.820
the baby right yeah what if it's at nine months what if they get an abortion at nine months or eight
00:47:26.100
months then it's clearly a full body right then it's clearly a full body so shouldn't it be some
00:47:33.480
kind of restitution body for body since you've now damaged the body don't now isn't it i mean isn't it
00:47:40.240
this kind of like eye for an eye is what we're doing here i mean partially but it's also just like if
00:47:46.680
i'm going to be the mother of your child i think you should honor me in some way yeah but i mean
00:47:51.360
what if your mother kills your child what should the honor for you be then i really don't know how
00:47:57.200
to answer that question okay well i was just curious because um it seems like there's kind of a little
00:48:03.520
embedded entailment there right that uh if you want another person to damage themselves because that
00:48:09.520
in some way is a sacrifice which is equal to your own then what if they make the ultimate sacrifice
00:48:15.040
in this case you know they die because of your decision don't you think that the restitution
00:48:19.700
then should be equal to what it is that you served out since we're doing an eye for an eye here
00:48:24.920
i don't personally think so but i'm just more so i believe that the person i'm gonna end up with is
00:48:35.500
going to be tatted and he'll do well for himself so i don't think my requests and requirements are that
00:48:40.420
crazy okay we have the labor of the point so when we have uh quite a few uh video reactions to get
00:48:48.500
through we'll we'll do a few then we'll come back to some more later uh there's definitely quite a
00:48:52.980
quite a few actually kind of maybe one quick follow-up question on that though going around the table
00:48:57.840
do you think that a man ought to in some sort of scenario do you think a man should take a bullet
00:49:06.080
or be willing to take a bullet for his wife or girlfriend even yes not not necessarily not
00:49:14.160
necessarily yes yes yes but vice versa too i feel like agree vice versa yes yes vice versa yeah
00:49:25.900
uh so my husband and i actually have had this conversation and it's my thought process has
00:49:31.720
changed especially since i've had kids because if there was a situation where it was him or i
00:49:36.200
i would want him to be alive because he would be much more better equipped to take care of our kids
00:49:42.420
he's just amazing but yeah i would much rather you take the bullet all right got it um
00:49:50.320
would that be a fair body for body like the potential future risk of man having to protect you in some
00:50:00.240
way ultimately the ultimate manifestation of that would be him dying for you is that would that be
00:50:06.820
uh enough justification for the body for body thing you're saying that if i were had someone's baby and
00:50:16.220
someone so he's willing to die for you it maybe it never happens like you could go your whole life
00:50:22.240
being married he never has to you know intervene in some sort of self-defense situation but he would
00:50:27.560
be prepared to if the event happens yeah anyways uh nick can you pull up the next tab so this is the
00:50:35.740
same now hang on this is super interesting though uh if you don't mind i would actually like to follow
00:50:40.760
up on this uh brian's question that he brings up here is fantastic he's asking he's saying look
00:50:47.540
if it's a body for a body if the idea here is you're sacrificing on behalf of me because i'm sacrificing
00:50:55.480
on behalf of you but the expectation is that he dies for you if the situation comes up right wouldn't
00:51:02.260
that be enough of a sacrifice already i mean yeah that's great i just like i said i don't know why
00:51:11.340
my requirements gets everyone so upset you know i'm not does anybody look upset i mean i mean not you
00:51:19.820
guys i'm frothing but at the mouth but you know i think that i don't i think that that's just cope
00:51:26.660
so i think what happens a lot is that um it's easier for people to look through a prism when people
00:51:32.900
are kind of questioning their world views or things that they want uh to just say ah that you're upset
00:51:38.280
or you're angry or or something like that yeah i think that i think that that's just coping though
00:51:43.800
we're just curious right when somebody makes a statement like that uh piques other people's
00:51:48.500
curiosity and they want to know they want to know how you came to it what your thought process is
00:51:52.460
around it that kind of well you guys are saying that you know we could potentially go through the
00:51:57.320
whole marriage it can never happen but it could just how if you give birth you could possibly die
00:52:02.380
correct i know yeah well i would say i would say that that tracks ability yeah yeah so i would say
00:52:09.480
that tracks but i think it's beside the point so i think what brian's asking is if the man is going
00:52:15.480
to lay their life down for the woman and the family first meaning they're going to be the first
00:52:19.860
one who rushes into danger on behalf of you and the children isn't that already enough of a sacrifice
00:52:26.100
why would you why would you want uh some type of bodily harm to them if they're willing to make
00:52:32.420
that sacrifice already on your behalf could there really be any ultimate sacrifice a man could make
00:52:37.180
well i'm making a sacrifice as well so and i feel like they wouldn't see it as them harming their
00:52:46.100
body they are if they take a bullet well if we're talking about the tattoo if we're talking about the
00:52:52.060
tattoo on okay the tattoo because if a man really loves you and he already has tattoos i understand if
00:52:59.380
he has naked skin but if he already has tattoos that could come from a place of wanting and do you want
00:53:05.900
it too do you also want the tattoo um well my ex had my name tattooed i have my own personal
00:53:11.980
requirements but i don't see that her your ex got your name tattooed on him yeah where on his arm did
00:53:18.740
you get his name tattoo on you no damn this is like really one way hold on so okay tell me but like so
00:53:24.940
with with the name with the name and with the face tattoo like i'm unless they watch your podcast or
00:53:31.520
whatever like is this something you're gonna tell a dude like hey i want your name tattooed on me
00:53:37.240
i did i told him not to do it actually i want your face surprise no no but you said you said like when
00:53:43.440
you have a kid he has to oh yeah it has to i i would um you would talk to him i would definitely
00:53:51.340
lay it down and that's another thing i would how far along in the pregnancy or is it like even before
00:53:55.940
the pregnancy like conception boom you got to get a tattoo of my face even if we were just talking
00:54:02.180
about getting to that next step pretend you and me are married and i just impregnated you
00:54:07.140
let's have the convo right now tell me brian to be like brian just have the convo with me i want
00:54:15.180
you to get the tattoo go ahead i'm listening well the thing is i would tell you before you married
00:54:19.220
me i would tell you we're married hold on let me get the room so you're saying you would tell him
00:54:26.440
before y'all even get to the stage here throw this shit on just kidding okay um we're married i would
00:54:33.320
never you're pregnant man i yeah no trapping well that's what i'm saying a man would know exactly what
00:54:38.320
he's getting into when he's dealing with me right but you have to have the conversation initially
00:54:41.820
right let's say he doesn't want your podcast okay so let's have the conversation i'm your man
00:54:46.320
you're eight weeks pregnant let's have the convo i would be like oh i'm eight weeks pregnant let's
00:54:54.320
start looking at what instagram photo you like of my face wait what uh oh babe i like all your
00:55:01.280
instagram photos but why do you want to look at instagram photos i say maybe this one for for for
00:55:07.560
what for a tattoo for uh where but you wouldn't be this the conversation wouldn't be happening like
00:55:14.080
this because we wouldn't be married and we wouldn't already be pregnant well what's the fine okay
00:55:17.960
what's the initial conversation like give me the pitch it's not really a pitch it's just uh what the
00:55:26.240
man has to know at some point about the tattoo honestly at this point since the video is so viral
00:55:32.280
i probably just you just show it to him yeah send it to him so he would there wouldn't even be a
00:55:37.040
combo i mean or we could sit what if you send it to him what if you send it to him and he's like
00:55:41.820
i ain't doing that shit but he never tells you and now you're pregnant and that tattoo ain't ever
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happening i mean divorce no not a divorce but i mean i wouldn't so let's have the convo okay you
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and me so you're saying you're not getting that tattoo am i too pale for you just curious am i a
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little too light-skinned you're perfect okay all right there you go all right all right uh we're
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dating go ahead all right so you're not getting the tattoo well i can't force you to do anything
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no no no just uh i don't know anything about this tattoo thing we're dating i don't know how pregnant
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you are maybe you're not even pregnant yet whatever point in the relationship you feel it's appropriate
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to have this conversation let's have the convo go ahead i would say if you want to make a baby i
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would like you to get a tattoo on my face once the baby is already here wait that's that's how
00:56:35.860
you would say it it wouldn't be like hey babe how you doing no can you tattoo me on your stomach
00:56:43.820
well but i mean isn't this kind of perfect though because like if i was in that situation you said
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yeah after the baby's here you need to get a tattoo i'd be like yeah sure baby i'll get the tattoo and
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you'd have the baby like i ain't fucking doing that shit you're out of your mind so then so then
00:56:58.200
what happens like what what happens then then if it's like um if it's not a man okay now the baby's
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here right and i'm like well i know i said that i was gonna do that but i'm not doing that shit what
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happens then i would say you're not a man of your word and i can't respect the man that's not a man
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of his word yeah so so if it's so that if it loses all respect because i fibbed about getting a
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tattoo of your face on me we already have a child is it time to go
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these are i mean i wouldn't probably i probably would not end a marriage over someone wanting
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not wanting to get a tattoo but if a man was like yeah i'm gonna get a tattoo and then he was like
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just kidding i would be kind of probably not wanting to lay down with him and definitely not
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giving him a second baby i got i got some last thing on this andrew unless you wanted to uh you
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no no i was just uh i was just curious i mean it just seems like it's a really easy thing to kind
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of thwart the preference right you just be like well okay baby no problem i'll get that tattoo and
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then you get and then the baby comes and you're like nah it's just you know you are absolutely right
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and you just um change my requirement to the tattoo has to be before we uh first date first date he's
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got to get the tattoo not first date but you know before a raw sex do you think they're not
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before raw sex like you don't think they're bad luck you haven't heard that i think i believe it's i
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think whatever you believe in is what you believe in and whatever you put emphasis on is what's gonna
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i feel like i feel like people like when you see matching tattoos like people are preying on their
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downfall because that's just like a ridiculous like no she's not gonna get a tattoo oh i have no
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tattoo no no not even matching tattoos like if i got a someone i would hope that somebody would
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almost like pray on my downfall praying like that's like great like if i did it for you if
00:58:44.580
i prayed on your downfall because you would hope someone would pray on your downfall no i'm saying
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like if i prayed on your downfall because you had your husband get a tattoo of your face on his
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stomach like don't you think wait why would that wouldn't work out you could you could return energy
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back to sender but you don't have to would she would you would you return energy back to me i
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just don't know i don't even think about people praying on my downfall i don't really have those
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thoughts how do you not think it's like bad luck to get your face not something that consumes my
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mind i just think about other things that's crazy to see it as beautiful art and dedication
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okay so final question on this then we're going to move it off of the tattoo thing or whatever
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for the body for body thing uh do you want to be like stay at home wife like you kind of want the
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man to work you stay at home uh no i still want to work uh maybe remotely but i would like to
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i think it's important for women to work just have a sense of their own identity and have other stuff
00:59:48.180
going on well okay so what about like when you're pregnant and then the early years of having the kids
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first couple years would you want to be working then uh if i yeah remotely like if i i would work
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from home for sure so like okay but i wouldn't leave well do you want your husband to preferably
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be the breadwinner uh i mean i plan to make a lot of money but i would like us to both make good money
01:00:14.960
okay all right but what i want him to provide yes would you be willing to date a blue collar worker
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yeah okay so like say a guy who a roofer a plumber yes someone who uh uh concreting yes construction
01:00:34.340
worker electrician okay would you agree that these jobs tend to be very physical uh physically laborious
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and can actually over the course of uh someone's uh career cause damage to their body bad knees bad
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back etc would that would that count towards your body for a body thing
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so you said you do like remote work in the house i'm assuming your house would be
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nice and air conditioned but if you were dating a guy who's out there doing backbreaking labor
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in order to support you and your children would that be body for body um
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i mean it is but i would still want still the tattoo okay i don't think anyone can change my mind on
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it can i just ask one question yeah what exactly do you think happens to your body like
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that you think it's like ruined do you i don't think it's ruined i think that you can look better
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after pregnancy i know women that look but even better after pregnancy i have a friend she's
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on her third kid she looks the best i've ever seen her so if he doesn't think it's aesthetically
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pleasing to have a tattoo on his stomach and you admit that your body isn't necessarily going to be
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like ruined what what would be the trade it's not about it being ruined it's just changed right
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it's like your body you're a mom you know your body has changed it's not that it's ruined
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no but it changed right yeah it changed so but you originally phrased it like uh you were
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sacrificing your body and you could potentially die like the way you described pregnancy i was just
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like oh my god like i was not on the verge of almost dying or feeling like i went nine months my
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life was completely normal and nothing happened like well that's amazing for you but that's just
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not everyone's experience but that's i would say the way you're describing it like sacrificing your
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body and all of that that seems like more of the outlier i would say my experience would probably more
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be more sort of the general experience and i had my kids kind of old so if i had my kids even younger
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my body would have bounced back better and it would have been probably even 10 times easier
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so i just think my i'm not like necessarily um upset at the way you're talking it's just kind of
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when i hear you i'm just like wow i wonder what she thinks exactly happens like well i think every
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woman has their own individual experience when it comes to pregnancies i've heard some great stories
01:03:00.440
like you're saying you know you didn't you got through your pregnancies fairly well and easy not
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everyone has the same experience so how do i know i'm not going to have an easy going experience
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i think i'm just i'm maybe hyper focused on the word like sacrifice you're sacrificing your body
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i didn't see it that way i felt like i'm lucky enough to actually be like bringing uh life into
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this world i wasn't like oh my god this is such a sacrifice well you're giving up your life essentially
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to so that's an that's also a kind of an interesting way that you're phrasing it how did i give up my
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life well your life is now your children's life no yeah so that's is that just your life anymore it's
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no and so i would actually say my life really began when i became a mom because i never even
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experienced all the amazing things that i experienced until i had a kid um and they i mean
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i'm not going to get like all crazy with it but it's amazing you'll never know until you have your
01:03:58.800
own kid and you realize in that very moment after you have the most incredible pain you have are
01:04:03.780
followed by the most euphoric feeling of your entire life and you look at this like little tiny baby
01:04:08.680
and you realize that you would do anything in the world for them you would give up your life like
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that it wouldn't even be a question well and that's your mindset totally changes in that very second but
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again that's an individual experience not every woman feels like that after giving birth not saying
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that i wouldn't feel like that but there's some women that don't feel even a connection to their child
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after they give birth and then but you think they'll feel a connection when they get like a pretty
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piece of jewelry or a house they'll feel better i mean i can't speak for i don't speak for everyone
01:04:39.200
else i speak for myself okay just curious we've lost i think we andrew can you hear us oh wait okay
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i think we're getting nick can you show me the stream or the chat we lost you guys for a second
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uh chat one in the chat if the stream's okay uh how long did that last chat 10 seconds 20 seconds 30
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seconds nick just keep an eye on that please um i just managed to catch it it's like maybe maybe two
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seconds 10 seconds okay it's fine uh i'm gonna move things along we have a lot of clips to get through
01:05:14.960
so for the sake of time we are going to try to get through these clips quickly because i you guys got
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a lot of clips i watched almost all oh it's more of ours oh yeah there's like 20 20 of your clips
01:05:28.600
we'll split it up into segments but 20 yeah oh wow there were 20 clips that i found interesting
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nick pull up the next oh uh well pull up the hold on pull it up
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oh yeah so this is the one that went viral like half a million likes and actually was interesting
01:05:50.720
like a lot of girls i don't know if you saw this one in specific a lot of comments were uh co-signing
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so so brave perfectly logical she knows her worth hundreds of thousands of likes on the comments
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bare minimum for carrying a child the whole house car tattoo thing bare minimum um this one seems to
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disagree the licensing for podcast i disagree with that because then we would also be subject to the
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whole licensing thing she's right though why men are crying makes sense anyways anyways yeah i think
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a lot of people are upset because uh when women start asking and expecting more out of men
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before they just decide to bring in life what i i have a question but like maybe what if there was a
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counter proposal what if the man said listen i will definitely get the tattoo but only on my ass cheek
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and only if you kiss it what the honestly that's uh that's pretty kinky and i'm into that so oh there
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you go boom sign her up i'm not all right nick next clip please all right uh go ahead yeah men have
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virgin fetishes and there's only two reasons why one you suck in bed and a virgin wouldn't know that
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you suck in bed because they don't know anything two you're a fucking pedophile to be hyper fixated on
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a woman being a virgin is the same thing as a man being hyper fixated on bald coochie if i ever hear
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a man say y'all don't want no coochie if it's hairy you're fucking weird you like little girls don't be
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coming up in my comments talking about oh if you're not a virgin then you're not you pull no value it's
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it's creepy you push and pee and it's pedophile baby you erroneous holy okay wow damn all right
01:07:35.560
there's a lot there so okay uh what in the name of made up a bunch of bullshit was that
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what in the name of just made up a bunch of bullshit was that garbage i i gotta hear an
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explanation for this why is that garbage well before if if we can before we get into that
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let's just bring the whole panel in on this so uh going around the table agree disagree
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with what the clip that just okay so if you're a man and you have a preference for women who are
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virgins uh you suck in bed you're a pedophile and those were the two main points
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i would disagree disagree and also even though even though we did play it if you guys could avoid the
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use of the p word and instead um use different language that'd be great yeah uh so instead of
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that we'll just say uh what what p word pushing p let's just do p word okay yeah that works all
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right i'll agree you agree okay what about you agree or disagree i agree but i know it's more to that
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too so there's more to it yeah like i think i agree but it's definitely more than just those
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two reasons oh there's other reasons i mean i feel like there is more reasons but um okay it is kind
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of weird that i don't know i guess it's preference thing but okay if you're a grown man and you want
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somebody to be a virgin what about you no disagree disagree yeah i also disagree but i do agree with the
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fact that if it's you should not require it to be bald it should be hairy or not you should like it
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either way like full-on 70s bush they should like it however you have it if they love you they like
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it however you have it okay i see what lily means but i think that preference isn't a p word thing
01:09:34.560
it's just preference so okay i disagree disagree okay so really uh really quick on the bald coochie
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thing and then we'll come back to the whole virgin thing really quick uh so it also p word if he
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prefers a woman to shave i was just trying to give like an example i it's not i understand why
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someone would want it bald i could understand that but to there's some men that
01:10:06.900
they come off almost as not to me but just because you guys have to remember i'm going based off
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this clip that was made we do our podcast and segments so every fourth episode is a recap and
01:10:20.140
roast and we go based off the comments that we get so most comments from that segment we're talking
01:10:26.600
about virgin i can okay virgins and all that and i just think a man being hyper fixated on a virgin or
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someone being completely bald down there is that's a little off to me it's a little off-putting
01:10:40.820
because what so what does that stem from wait i just want to make sure i get this right
01:10:45.080
it gives you the ick right it gives you the ick it gives me it it's concern it's alarming to me it's
01:10:51.720
not an ick it's alarming oh why is it why is it alarming can i ask you a question on this so
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do you prefer a man clean shaven or with a beard i prefer a beard you prefer a beard yes okay would
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you object if i were to say that women who don't like beards are definitely p words because that's
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not your private parts it's preference it's all preference i think that's what brian's trying to
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make is like it is a preference to have it bald and i do agree with like even what lily was saying
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that it is just whatever kind of like what you want to have but i don't think a preference is wrong
01:11:28.520
if you prefer men without beards why are you a p word you're not it's just a preference i think
01:11:36.700
for some it's a preference and some it's a demand i think that goes for everything but i just i'm just
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curious though i would like to to kind of get into this if you don't mind um what the hell is wrong
01:11:47.620
with having that demand like so let's say let's say that we have a 35 year old man and he just
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demands to have a virgin he's not going to date unless you're a virgin and unless you're shaved
01:12:01.140
down there that's what he likes can you tell me hang on hang on hang on let me finish the question
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can you actually tell me one reason why that would be immoral in any way shape or form why
01:12:13.140
that would actually be immoral not you know here's what i'm not looking for what i'm not looking for
01:12:17.680
is well it gives me the ick i'm actually looking for a it's immoral because
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i just think that unless a man is a virgin himself he shouldn't be requesting for a woman to be a virgin
01:12:30.780
if he's a virgin himself because what's what's the uh obsession with a virgin because he just wants
01:12:38.780
one what's wrong with that why what's the reason there's always a reason because wait wait because
01:12:44.020
because he does what's wrong with that so he woke up one morning and he so here's i want to give you
01:12:50.120
the whole scenario right i won't leave anything to the imagination he wakes up one morning and he
01:12:55.440
stretches and he goes oh i want a virgin what is the problem with that like i actually want to know
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after already like what if he's like his thing is for virgins so yeah he woke up that morning he
01:13:12.620
slammed half of la he has banged half of la twice and he had a good time doing it and he wakes up on a
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thursday and he stretches and he says i just want myself a virgin i've always wanted one and that's
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what i'm going for because that's my preference what the hell is wrong i actually want to know
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what's wrong with that what's the problem i think as long as he's not bashing i'm just looking for
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anything other than it's icky anything other than that
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i don't i just know that's not a man i would uh surround myself with change the split
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you're fine you're fine oh i i don't really have anything to say i just think it's weird that men
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are hyper fixated you have to remember i'm going based off my comment section so when yeah i think
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it's weird that you're hyper fixated on men who have that preference that's really weird
01:14:05.200
it gives me the air that they always comment stuff like that yeah i know because it seems like they have
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the preference that you guys are virgins and you're not right and that's the point and i actually have
01:14:16.520
a bit of a follow-up on this so you said you've been celibate for two years right over two years yeah
01:14:21.360
over two years and you said your previous relationship was uh wait eight years eight years
01:14:28.960
i mean i'm i'm imagining you're not a virgin but i'm imagining it sounds like it's given we haven't
01:14:36.860
got into your other videos yet from what you've disclosed in your other videos it actually sounds
01:14:41.680
like you at least what you're putting out there that you have a low body count so i'm just curious
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why would you object to men having a preference that actually leans more towards how you are that's
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what i what that's what confuses me well i'm not a virgin i you're not a virgin but you low i mean
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it's fine to you know i think it's fine if you want a woman that hasn't slept with a bunch of
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people that's if that's your preference that's fine but for a virgin that's kind of and my only
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the only thing i can say for that unless you're a virgin yourself i just for like religious reasons
01:15:19.760
or whatever i don't think it's appropriate well so okay wouldn't the ultimate manifestation
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of kind of the way that you choose to move which is celibacy it sounds like and my understanding is
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and i think we'll see this in some of your future videos is you you're saying you're waiting until
01:15:38.100
marriage for your next partner is that correct to have sex i said abstaining from sex i'm not waiting
01:15:42.860
till marriage but i wouldn't just lay down with anyone okay but so wouldn't a virgin be the ultimate
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manifestation of essentially what you're doing which is celibacy and sexual purity
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i just think that when men my whole reasoning for the video is that men's argument is that you hold
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no value unless you're a virgin that's what all the comments are you hold no value if you're if you have
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no if you're not a virgin you don't hold value so i don't know where that comes from and i think
01:16:14.760
i think men tell on themselves in their comments well it's not clear to me if if large swaths like large
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populations of men would refuse to date a woman if she had for example a body count of one as opposed
01:16:28.940
to being a virgin it might be more preferable that she's a virgin it's not clear to me if it would
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immediately be a deal breaker unless they were like devoutly religious or something but
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i think it's a general preference that men do prefer women with lower body counts and the ultimate
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manifestation of that would be a woman who's a virgin but i don't think men are like
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oh she has a body count of one i'm refusing to date her especially if they're not virgins themselves
01:16:55.960
but you think it's the case that like like what percentage of men would you say will exclusively
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only date virgin women i mean has to be well sorry i go ahead i really i don't know i well you said a lot
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of men say i said not that they date them i think that's what they want you know they because
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wouldn't a lot of women want to date a billionaire honestly who what woman wouldn't want to date a
01:17:23.660
billionaire if if they had access billionaires can be kind of scary i wouldn't want to date a
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billionaire you really i wouldn't you mean like literally hundreds of generations of your children
01:17:35.240
would be financially oh no that's a lot of generations like you would be financially set you
01:17:41.260
never have to work a day in your life everything in your life would be taken care of everything you
01:17:45.760
wouldn't date a billionaire a billionaire i mean i'm not saying i never say never but i just think
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a lot of billionaires are probably not the type of people that i would want to date you wouldn't
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secure your bloodline for like dozens of generations financially i'd rather be happy well what if you
01:18:05.260
could be happy with a billionaire i'm guaranteed happiness let's assume here let's assume i'm let's
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assume the guy who's making forty thousand dollars a year is a good guy and the billionaire who's making
01:18:16.340
a billion dollars a year is also a good guy which one do you pick
01:18:20.800
so we're saying that i'm totally into this guy okay obviously if i'm into this guy that's why i say
01:18:28.360
never say never but i mean yeah you'd prefer for your man to have money and to be able to provide
01:18:34.440
so if we're looking at that as a spectrum like on the extreme end you have a billionaire
01:18:38.900
but then like okay you have a guy who makes 100k which is still very good right so can you like view
01:18:45.160
it in that lens of perhaps on the extreme end you have a virgin but then like still very uh solid life
01:18:53.060
partner would be a woman who has a sub five body count one two three four five something like that
01:18:57.880
so the ultimate preference would be a billionaire or a woman who's a virgin
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but most people would be totally fine partnering with somebody who uh does have a low body counter
01:19:12.800
who makes less than a billion dollars but that would be if the men were commenting oh my preference
01:19:18.540
would be this this these are comments saying you hold no value if you're not a virgin if you're a virgin
01:19:23.460
then you don't have a say like that's why this video was made it seems a bit of like a straw man though
01:19:30.720
i don't hear a lot of men saying well i would refuse to date a woman if she had a body count of one
01:19:35.840
well people are not commenting that so i wasn't responding to people that so you're saying people
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are people are saying what that they prefer to date a virgin they weren't saying i prefer to date what
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are they saying that non-virgins have no value no value that's what i was just i don't hear this
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frequently even in like dating spaces so i think a lot of people say things on the internet they would
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never say in real life that's fair so um people feel very bold on the internet so let's get back
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to the two actual original claims though i i wonder if i can if i can dive in just briefly brian if
01:20:08.180
that's all right uh andrew let me just make one more point and then i'll have you come in real quick
01:20:12.180
so uh just really quick on your double standards thing so you said well it's only it would be okay
01:20:16.620
for a virgin man to want a virgin woman otherwise if you have a body count as a man wrong for you to
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desire a virgin that's your position on that i don't it's not i mean that's your preference
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but to shame a woman for not being a virgin when you're far from it is concerning to me
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well it's i don't know if that was your original argument but it did sound like only your position
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was only men who are virgins either deserve or should prefer virgin women yeah i feel okay so hold
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on um so let me ask you a question in order for you to want to be with someone need you be exactly the
01:20:52.580
same like so in order for you desire a trait in a partner need you also possess said trait
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so you're saying based on my low body count well so you're saying as a guy if you want to date a
01:21:13.520
virgin you should be a virgin too that's essentially what you're saying so my question is in order for
01:21:18.580
you to desire a trait in a partner need you also possess that trait in order for you to desire it
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i mean this is the thing it's it's a pre okay your preference you're just like oh i'm just a guy i'm
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i'm saying that if it's just a preference right let's say it's a strong very strong preference yeah
01:21:39.320
i mean i'm still taking my stance on it should be maybe if a guy slept with one or two girls maybe
01:21:46.740
that's more fair but no let's say he's got a body count of a hundred and he but he still wants to
01:21:52.080
date a woman who's a virgin because he he's made some sort of analysis or assessment and he's
01:21:57.300
determined well i think when it comes to having a girlfriend life partner a woman who has a lower
01:22:02.200
a low body count or in fact who's has no body count would make for the best partner for me
01:22:08.140
he's just made that assessment then that's his requirement that's his requirement i don't know
01:22:12.820
well you might acknowledge that he's he he can have it but you would object to it is that correct
01:22:18.720
yeah i just think there's just a lot of weirdos and creeps out there and that's what the video was
01:22:25.020
made those that's who the video but you would you would object to that okay so i guess let me ask you
01:22:31.680
a question a woman who's not funny but she desires a guy who's funny and can make her laugh
01:22:35.740
do you object to that because she doesn't possess the trait in which she desires in a partner
01:22:42.900
no you don't object would you object to a woman who had brown eyes who wanted to partner with blue
01:22:53.580
so i well i so i don't understand here um if if i can give you a physical characteristic which i
01:23:05.420
would say virginity is a physical characteristic the physical characteristic if you have brown eyes
01:23:09.980
you only desire people who have blue eyes does that then is that then alarming to you no well how
01:23:17.480
come that's not alarming to you but the idea that a man who's not a virgin would desire a virgin
01:23:22.180
because one one is a physical attribute the other one is a vulnerable act
01:23:26.960
well i don't understand they're both physical attributes no because the color of your hair the
01:23:32.920
color of your eyes is different than popping your cherry having sex for the first time that is but
01:23:38.060
they're both but hang on there that both of those would be physical attributes virginity would be a
01:23:42.940
physical attribute but you could look at someone and say oh you have blue eyes they're pretty you can't
01:23:48.140
look at someone say oh you're a virgin or not no no but let's assume you will only
01:23:52.160
date men who have blue eyes that's it your preference is i have brown eyes and i will
01:23:57.200
only date men who have blue eyes is that is that alarming to you no okay but i don't understand why
01:24:04.480
why is it that if uh you have the preference i'll only date men who have blue eyes uh that that's not
01:24:11.660
the not alarming but i will only date virgins is alarming but can maybe you can square this for me
01:24:16.840
and brian because that's what he's getting after he's wondering it just screams the p word i just
01:24:21.600
not i i can't personally wrap my head around the idea of someone being so so hyper fixated
01:24:28.700
on wanting a woman to be there so there's why well wait wait wait hang on i'm sorry i'm
01:24:33.480
do you associate uh desire of virginity with the p word that's your association i think uh there's
01:24:44.660
some correlation to that yes yeah what's the correlate
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um the same thing as the example i give want to having uh only wanting it to be bald i just think
01:24:57.880
what does that resemble a little girl well wait does it not hang on wait does being a virgin and
01:25:05.960
and being completely bald down there so then i assume that you would be against six foot eight
01:25:10.640
men dating four foot ten women no well i don't understand what do they resemble what does a four
01:25:18.300
foot ten woman resemble to a six foot eight man i think you could tell if uh even if based on
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someone's high i think you could still tell if they're of age oh saying and could you maybe tell
01:25:31.100
that with other parts of their body too well oh i got a question i got a question hang on i just want
01:25:36.160
to know can you tell that with other parts of the body too um maybe if uh maybe if the girl you
01:25:45.020
were sleeping with had only had some really really small peen small what peen pee pee pee yeah the guy
01:25:52.200
has a small maybe if a small maybe if he had a micro peen then what the adults can have small pps
01:25:59.040
yeah what are you talking about that's bizarre what do you mean like that that doesn't even make
01:26:03.780
any sense like what do you what do you mean so i'm really curious here if the association in your
01:26:09.140
mind is you must be the p word or in some way associated with the p word because you prefer virginity
01:26:15.840
and guess what guess what else are virgins out there uh you know underage people those are virgins as
01:26:21.580
well so you make that association okay but there's all sorts of things that you can then associate
01:26:27.700
with that which would just include things like i prefer youthful looking women who aren't virgins
01:26:33.360
let's say well that's still associated with with with the same thing or short women that's associated
01:26:39.020
with the same thing right or women who only eat macaroni and cheese i guess or that's their favorite
01:26:45.780
dish i could associate that with a kind of prepubescent mentality so why is it that you make
01:26:51.740
only this association that's really weird it makes me think that you have a screw loose and that you are
01:26:57.800
making an association that other people would not uh attribute to children that's not what when you
01:27:03.440
think child that is not what people attribute to child why do you attribute that to child
01:27:08.840
i don't think i'm uh this genius that's like came up with this idea that being bald down there or
01:27:19.940
being a virgin kind of correlates i'm saying only wanting that wait really quick if i can jump in
01:27:25.600
here really quick andrew and i'll pass it right back on the bald thing on the bald thing you said
01:27:29.600
well how would you know so let me ask you a question i'm at let's say it's a 30 year old woman
01:27:34.280
and she's she's told you she's 30 on her dating app it says 30 and but she's bald down there and
01:27:40.340
she's down there and right next to the like on the bed is a uh driver's license a photo id her birth
01:27:47.400
certificate and a sworn statement with witnesses under penalty of perjury that she is in fact 30 years
01:27:54.900
old but she also has you know shaved she's bald down there is that still i mean i'm not stuff i'm not
01:28:03.700
saying that if you do under penalty of perjury every month like oh wait i'm saying wait you get
01:28:10.580
waxed yes i'm not saying i'm i guess i'm saying for a man to be like uh like hairy coochie is just
01:28:17.480
like i can't i can't i just kind of feel like one you're ungrateful and two it's kind of it's kind
01:28:25.680
of off-putting wait so you don't have any grooming preferences for men like you're fine with full 70s
01:28:30.760
bush i prefer hair but i mean like full book like never groomed a day in their life full bush
01:28:37.660
jungle status yes they braid that shit too i would help you're fine with the braids you will
01:28:43.120
i will i will save a souvenir so to kind of uh explore the rest of this and i think brian makes
01:28:51.160
a good point here that's actually where i was going to go with it next because i'm just as curious as he
01:28:54.760
would you associate uh hair on a man with with being a man right that is definitely a trait of
01:29:03.020
of uh you know being an adult male would be hair right and you would also associate then that a
01:29:11.360
male who has very little hair you would associate with a boy right
01:29:15.920
um i don't see my thing is it would be like me so so well here so here's the thing let me just show
01:29:27.280
you where i'm going with this i'll land the plane as they say really quickly if a woman's preference
01:29:31.700
is to only have men who you know have no body hair because they get rid of it by shaving it or whatever
01:29:37.700
you know however they do it um are they the p word are those women alarming to you are they
01:29:45.260
disgusting p words because they want a man who removes all of their body hair and that's what
01:29:51.800
they want no well i don't understand the association well i'm sorry you can't understand and i don't
01:29:57.780
know if you want to hear i'm sorry that you can't explain but try to explain i'm trying to understand
01:30:01.700
this is just my stance on it i think it's weird when you know hundreds and hundreds of comments are
01:30:07.480
uh all they can think talk and speak about is a virgin i think is their preference that's weird
01:30:15.160
that all that they talk about is their preferences i do think it's weird to take time out of your day
01:30:20.060
and type some weird comments like that well it's really weird to me that you think it's weird that
01:30:26.520
you would put your opinion out there and say here's my opinion on x thing now don't say anything about
01:30:32.180
it that's really weird isn't the whole point of engaging in a dialogue or putting your opinion
01:30:37.340
out there is because you want feedback from the audience and the people who are watching
01:30:41.260
so that they can express what their opinion is and they express theirs and then i express back
01:30:46.460
right but if they're all expressing or a good number of them are expressing that this is a
01:30:51.560
preference why do you immediately associate that with the p word when we when we hold you to the same
01:30:57.340
standard apparently that is not p word like behavior if a woman wants a hairless man well that's just
01:31:03.840
fine but if a man wants a hairless woman he's a p word can you make that make sense for me
01:31:09.020
i don't think i can i'm sorry i don't think you can either but i appreciate it do you think more
01:31:14.160
women prefer to be groomed versus men who have that preference i would say yes more women do i mean
01:31:22.900
just even for myself i get wax um monthly and i've been abstaining from sex it's no one for it's not
01:31:29.580
for anyone but myself yeah because i was just thinking like i see girls at the beach there's no way
01:31:33.320
they're trying to go around to the beach with like a full-on bush um because they want their
01:31:38.040
bathing suit as small as possible and then my second point i was thinking when you were saying
01:31:42.960
some of this is it's only relatively recently that women would leave uh high school without their
01:31:49.400
virginity intact so when men would prefer a virgin they would still be wanting somebody who is an adult
01:31:58.320
like this is somewhat of a new thing that girls lose their virginity before the age of 18 and
01:32:04.680
historically right wouldn't you agree to that it's not like women were being highly promiscuous even
01:32:10.060
like 50 years ago i if you just had to guess that's like when did the sexual revolution happen
01:32:17.360
i don't know what women do on i mean if you had to guess though do you think the women were more
01:32:24.240
promiscuous or less promiscuous after the sexual revolution i think they're more promiscuous now i
01:32:29.180
guess so then it's a fairly new thing for men to have or it's not a new thing that men want virgins
01:32:36.100
but it's a fairly new thing that men are now encountering a dating market where most women are
01:32:41.220
now not virgins when they graduate high school so it's probably not necessarily affiliated with
01:32:46.600
being attracted to minors it's probably just part of their hardwiring that that's what they want right
01:32:52.440
yes i got a question let's say there's a woman who's 30 who's a virgin and then there's a woman
01:33:01.540
who's just she's she just turned 18 but she slept with 100 men if a man has a preference for dating
01:33:12.520
the 30 year old virgin over dating the hold on wait let me think here yeah the 30 pervert yeah he prefers
01:33:20.700
dating the 30 year old virgin over the now granted she is legally an adult so i wouldn't consider
01:33:26.760
either to be p-word but yes which which one do you think like if if a man was inclined to date one or
01:33:34.640
the other which one would be more p-word the 30 year old virgin or the 18 year old with 100 bodies
01:33:39.680
40 i mean yeah it's legal to date an 18 year old but i still don't think a man that's 40 years old
01:33:49.100
should be dating an 18 year old but you i think yeah i think he should go for the 30 year old virgin
01:33:54.520
why not but look at all the what but look at all the sexual experience that she's had
01:33:59.940
because you said it comes down you know sexual the virgin would suck in bed it's giving p-word
01:34:06.360
but she's a 30 year old virgin whereas the 18 year old has had 100 sexual partners
01:34:13.060
but your question is what that who should he which one is more p-wordy
01:34:19.520
i mean both they're both they're both of age but i do think a 40 year old man should he be dating an
01:34:29.080
18 year old i mean to each his own but i don't think yeah they should what's wrong with it
01:34:35.940
i mean i don't would you do the do you have a daughter or yeah andrew has daughters yeah you
01:34:45.500
have daughters so you have four daughters yeah you would be okay with your 18 year old daughter
01:34:49.740
dating a 40 year old man well what would me being okay with it let's just assume i'm not okay with my
01:34:54.820
daughter dating anybody because i'm a good dad right and that's all good fathers everywhere hate
01:34:59.080
the fact that their daughters date anybody at any time for any reason but the thing is is i've been
01:35:04.720
trying i've been thinking about this because i hear women say this a lot right and i only hear
01:35:08.740
it exclusively from women that it's gross or in some way icky if a 40 year old man dates an 18 year
01:35:15.920
old woman are you saying that an 18 year old woman is too stupid to date a 40 year old man um i don't
01:35:22.720
think you are thinking clearly at 18. okay well then why can you vote shit i don't know so do you think
01:35:31.120
that 18 year old women shouldn't be able to vote i think hang on remember the question answer to the
01:35:40.440
actual question are you saying 18 year old women are smart enough to vote but too stupid to handle
01:35:46.540
their personal affairs when it comes to a relationship i just want to make sure i get this clear
01:35:49.800
i think uh voting i just don't i can't really say the two correlate because getting involved with
01:36:02.800
a 40 year old man dating a man that has much more experience and could use that to his advantage in
01:36:10.260
many ways it's different so that 40 year old man if he's has a lot more experience he's way smarter in
01:36:17.240
this type of thing clearly he should be able to vote why should the 18 year old who's too stupid
01:36:23.380
to date the 40 year old man be able to vote that's what i don't understand stupid doesn't equal
01:36:29.720
inexperienced you can well then what's the problem with them having a relationship not stupid
01:36:35.180
dealing yeah okay sure they so they they're so if that's true then what would be the problem with
01:36:41.080
them dating well i want to go back to the question that i have for you and i i oh i i want to go back
01:36:47.120
to the question i have for you you said you have four daughters do you think it would be a good idea
01:36:52.780
for your 18 year old daughter to date a 40 year old man yes or no i would advise my 18 year old daughter
01:36:57.320
not to date any man no with the that can't be a i'm saying if your 18 year old daughter how can it not
01:37:03.800
be do you know any would include all 40 year old men i just i think so any would include all 20
01:37:11.620
year old men 30 year old men 40 year old men 50 year old men and
01:37:14.520
include all of them not just some of them but in this case we're talking about a 40 year old man
01:37:23.540
and an 18 year old woman and i'm just curious if you think an 18 year old woman is so fucking stupid
01:37:31.320
that she can't handle her personal affairs when it comes to dating why do we let them vote
01:37:35.860
she never called them stupid yeah i never called them stupid and that's you i'm just how you're just
01:37:43.280
just how you made a comparison nick did you do something i lost audio
01:37:46.640
wait what did you change uh we're we're getting it we got it andrew here i'll just i don't know if
01:37:54.700
you can understand sign language uh what was there what happened nick
01:38:00.040
okay um that's fine so going around the table i'm just going to get everybody's take on this do
01:38:07.360
you object to age gap relationships let's say the age let's put it at um 30 and 20
01:38:13.100
do you do you object to that age gap a 20 year old and a 30 year old uh 30 year old man 20 year
01:38:21.240
old woman yeah yeah that's fine you're fine with that okay wait we were talking about 18 and 40
01:38:26.420
so can we stick to 18 and 40 we could i think that would be more fair it is bigger
01:38:31.460
yeah let's let's but i think a 30 20 is a bit more likely to happen but let's stick to what we
01:38:38.800
were talking about because i'm sure i'm fine with that okay 18 year old yeah yeah well if you don't
01:38:44.340
mind i'd like to get back to this um before the audio cut out can you explain why it is again that
01:38:50.720
you want 18 year old girls to be able to vote if they're too dumb to manage their personal affairs
01:38:54.800
when it comes to like i said she never called them stupid or dumb that was your own words well
01:38:58.960
then what would your objection be to it then i think that men that are 40 years old could manipulate
01:39:07.440
you could do a lot of things and this must assume that this assumes that the 18 year olds must be
01:39:14.240
stupid then no i'm sorry are you usually manipulated by people who are smarter than you you're just not
01:39:21.340
going to be as experienced when you're 18 you're not going to be as experienced as you would be at
01:39:25.820
40 years old yeah so if you're inexperienced as they get older so then this well this goes to my
01:39:30.980
point hang on let us finish our exchange here real quick if you don't mind this so this goes back to
01:39:36.000
my argument then if you're if you're too inexperienced in the world to even manage your
01:39:40.860
own personal affairs when it comes to a relationship why would you be experienced enough to vote on the
01:39:45.860
issues that would affect me in the nation you want to do you want to explain that to me i don't talk
01:39:50.560
politics so i'm we're not talking politics we're talking about voting okay so i just think i just how
01:39:58.080
your argument against uh virginity preferring a virgin as preferring someone with blue or brown eyes i just
01:40:05.700
don't think your argument is as strong as you think it is i don't really see the comparison oh well i mean
01:40:12.760
what a fantastic counter argument i don't think your argument's very good is not an argument that's
01:40:17.920
just saying something when you're dealing with a man day in and day out that is a lot different than
01:40:23.100
sending in a boat yeah yeah okay so i realize that everything on earth that we could possibly imagine
01:40:31.440
that we make an analogy to are going to be different no matter what right so i can say for instance oh this
01:40:37.420
tastes like chicken but it's not actually a chicken the reason that we're making the analogy that it
01:40:42.580
tastes like chicken is so that you have some reference in your mind to what the thing tastes
01:40:46.080
like we're not actually saying it's the thing itself so knowing that what i'm asking you here
01:40:51.580
is if a man who is 40 wants to date a woman who's 18 and the woman who's 18 goes to you and says i love
01:40:59.360
him i'm going to marry him because i love him are you saying that that shouldn't be allowed
01:41:04.180
i mean people could do whatever they want do i think it's appropriate no
01:41:10.140
yeah what's inappropriate about it the age gap is yeah what's inappropriate about it what like
01:41:16.500
what's actually problematic about she loves him he loves her there's a big power struggle there
01:41:23.280
well hang on there's a power struggle in every relationship regardless and more so with a 40
01:41:29.080
and an 18 year old then someone that no that's not that's not true for every relationship one
01:41:34.060
there's no way you could ever demonstrate that that's true you could say maybe the likelihood
01:41:38.260
of it increases but so what the likelihood would also increase if he was a 21 year old millionaire
01:41:43.320
and she was a 21 year old who worked at starbucks there would be a massive power imbalance would you say
01:41:48.420
then that they shouldn't date well you're saying if they were to get married right would you
01:41:54.320
are you married you are can you tell me the age you got married
01:41:59.140
um i'd actually have to calculate it but uh but around around like were you in your 20s 30s
01:42:07.360
yeah i was in i was in my 20s yeah late 20s late 20s okay so do you think that your
01:42:14.960
relationship or your your marriage with your wife would have survived if you got together when you
01:42:22.600
were 18 yeah okay well good i mean let us assume but let us assume for a second that i'm wrong and
01:42:32.820
it wouldn't know okay so what what would that have to do with anything i just don't think you
01:42:37.540
are gonna make the best relationship decisions at 18 years old that's my answer yeah no i get hang on i
01:42:46.520
i get it i understand but this is kind of this has kind of become circular right so let's let's move
01:42:52.560
back for a second you're saying that the reason for this is because there's a power dynamic problem
01:42:59.080
she loves him he loves hers not enough because there's a power issue isn't isn't that what your
01:43:04.820
objection is i just think that if you had a i feel like our conversation i could get a better
01:43:13.780
uh i i could give you something better if you could give me what you would really truly honestly
01:43:19.960
think about your daughter at 18 dating a 40 year old why would you need my position to know your
01:43:24.460
position because i think you could why do you wait wait why do you need my position to know what you
01:43:30.340
think about an issue i think because you would be able to understand where i'm coming from if you
01:43:36.820
were okay okay so i'll give you my position again okay i don't want my daughter to date a man her age
01:43:42.680
or older than her or younger than her that's just not gonna happen though yeah okay great but now
01:43:50.760
you know my position so back to your position here uh i'm just curious is it is it the power dynamic
01:43:58.280
issue is that what the problem is all things you have to choose sorry totally no i yeah i can say all
01:44:05.680
things equal you have to choose between the 20 year old and the 40 year old for your daughter
01:44:10.820
all things equal well it would i mean all things couldn't be equal it's an impossible and illogical
01:44:17.360
hypothetical in a vacuum so if you were to just say on age alone by itself with no other contributing
01:44:23.840
factors i would probably choose for the 20 year old okay but so what what does that have to do with
01:44:30.620
anything i think now let's add in let's hang on now let's add in a single variable okay the uh 20 year
01:44:36.620
old is a broke destitute idiot and the 40 year old is not then i might choose differently right
01:44:41.960
because it's not in a vacuum so understanding that that is true i can still explain to you that i would
01:44:48.040
probably have the preference for this to youth sure but so what that doesn't mean i see any in moral
01:44:53.480
arrangement with a 40 year old dating an 18 year old that's what i don't understand and need
01:44:57.940
demonstrated that's what i want to hear the actual problem with it is what i think how you see it
01:45:04.740
brooklyn is kind of how i see it where it's just like what does an 18 and a 40 year old have in
01:45:08.840
common at all you're not in the same walk of life at all um well i can tell you i can tell you what i
01:45:15.360
think what i think the i can tell you what i think i can tell you what the distinction is he really
01:45:20.680
wants to have sex with her a lot all the time and she wants his money that's what it is right
01:45:25.280
that's i mean that's generally speaking what i think this arrangement would be is that she would go
01:45:30.040
for him because she thinks he's sophisticated and has resources and he's with her because he really
01:45:33.940
wants to fuck her and that's what i think essentially it would be and if he doesn't have the resources
01:45:38.700
and she's just with a 40 year old man then what because she because she loves him you think that
01:45:44.180
i'm going to tell my daughter that she can't marry somebody that she loves and who loves her back
01:45:47.620
well you can't that's really weird really tell her anything at the end of the day she's going to
01:45:51.520
make her that's right i really can't tell her anything at the end of the day so that's why we're
01:45:55.480
just moving into why this is actually in some way some kind of problem what can you why is this
01:46:02.180
actually a problem for me i just i think that we're thinking the same in the in the same way
01:46:09.120
of just i don't think i have anything involved my mom's 40 i don't have really anything in common
01:46:14.420
with my mom other than she's my mom because we're just at different walks of life and do i think it's
01:46:20.840
the worst thing on a planet no because i they're both legal but wait hold on i do it no wait at all
01:46:26.800
on this whole commonality on this commonality thing though really quick for anybody here do
01:46:32.660
you think like it's high on the totem pole that like the major thing you're looking for when it
01:46:38.020
comes to a partner is things in common yes like if you don't like i've never seen like a really
01:46:46.600
attractive girl and been like ah she doesn't like the same music as me guess i'm not gonna fuck her
01:46:52.260
ah she's never gonna play dungeons and dragons with me damn it but you know what i don't you
01:46:58.180
know what you were you're super hot and i thought that you were gorgeous and the woman of my dreams
01:47:02.880
till i found out you don't play dnd that that's a deal breaker i think people connect on having
01:47:08.040
things in common exactly and i don't know how you necessarily connect at 18 with a 40 year old
01:47:14.300
so i do yeah but but i mean whoa hang on hang on i'm just i'm just really curious right
01:47:19.800
why wouldn't there be tons of overlap and connection so for instance name a connection
01:47:24.580
you would have with a 21 year old that you couldn't have with a 40 year old i'd like to know
01:47:28.320
a single one um well most 40 year olds i would feel like have a wife and kids okay okay yeah but
01:47:37.520
so i mean that's not necessarily hang on hang on this one doesn't have a wife and kids
01:47:41.260
so can you name a single connection you can have with a 21 year old that you can't have with a 40 year
01:47:47.680
old go ahead the floor is open name one a 20 year high school reunion a what that's about it or like
01:47:54.820
you know like a high school reunion i haven't had one yet i'm 21 that's a connection i'm just trying
01:47:58.800
to like you know but i guess so you think that would be a basis for disqualifying do you think
01:48:03.820
yeah can you give me a single emotional or or interest connection that you can have with a 21
01:48:10.260
year old man you can't have with a 40 years i have a lot more experience and knowledge than i do
01:48:16.500
at 20 years old right now i would say you're not answering the same age or stage of life
01:48:21.960
exactly that's what i just said yeah complaining about college classes i'll just ask you the same
01:48:26.680
question perhaps you'll answer going out can you name a single emotional connection or interest
01:48:31.900
connection that you can have with a 21 year old man you can't have with a 40 year old man i'd
01:48:36.220
actually like to know the answer to the question have form an emotional connection by being in the
01:48:40.300
same stage of life you're experiencing adulthood for the first time then you can also form emotional
01:48:45.260
connections uh to the opposite of that you can form emotional connections with people who are
01:48:49.720
outside of your experiences you've heard perhaps opposites attract you've heard perhaps that people
01:48:55.400
enjoy traits and other people that they themselves don't have there's all sorts of these types of
01:49:00.360
emotional yeah so so i'm just asking specifically then what is that thing that emotional connection
01:49:06.620
you're talking about what specifically there could you have with a 21 year old you couldn't have
01:49:13.200
with a 40 year old neither one of your guys's brain is fully developed when you're 18 and 21 when
01:49:18.780
you're 40 you're a full grown man your brain is developed you've already no your brain is fully
01:49:23.820
developed at 18 i don't know what you're talking about your brain it's not actually what you've done
01:49:30.300
is you've taken one study which is talking about the prefrontal cortex and you've misread it
01:49:35.600
like most people do oh really how many studies is it i couldn't tell you sorry i didn't write it
01:49:42.500
down yeah i know and can you name the study no i can't wait no you can't name it so the thing is
01:49:48.880
is like you're talking about the prefrontal cortex and the thing is the prefrontal cortex begins to
01:49:53.000
degrade after the age 26 people forget that part it degrades so if it degrades then wouldn't that
01:49:59.520
mean if you're a 40 year old man that you have a degraded prefrontal cortex whereas a 25 year old
01:50:04.360
woman would be have a prefrontal cortex in her prime so wouldn't that make you equal don't
01:50:09.640
things start to degrade after they've reached like their prime right so if it reaches its prime and
01:50:15.040
it begins to degrade but let's let's uh let's take a look at this attribute right so you can have a
01:50:20.800
fully developed prefrontal cortex even before the age of 26 you can have that it's not it's not even a
01:50:26.640
problem to have and you can have such minute differences what if it only works at a half a percent
01:50:31.520
better or a quarter of a quarter of a quarter of half a percent that's why you can't extrapolate
01:50:37.080
from studies like this you can't take this and extrapolate that we can only consider you an adult
01:50:42.420
at 26 because everybody's mind develops differently so the question becomes this and by the way if that's
01:50:49.620
the case wouldn't only 26 year old women be able to vote wouldn't only 26 year old women be able to
01:50:54.620
buy cars shouldn't only 26 year old women be able to go out and enter into contracts with other people
01:50:59.720
i don't think anyone's saying that it should be illegal to date someone that's 40 years old
01:51:05.580
right okay great then let's get back to this then what emotional connection can you only have with a
01:51:12.740
person in your age bracket you couldn't have an age bracket of person who's 20 years older than you
01:51:16.780
i think i already stated my answer to that which was what to this idea of commonality
01:51:23.540
couldn't you also argue though that there might be too much commonality between two 20 year olds
01:51:28.040
because they're both maybe emotionally immature but if you had somebody younger girl they might
01:51:34.060
be a little bit more uh able to be like okay she's acting like this but he has more emotional maturity
01:51:40.200
because he has that experience that you guys are talking about so he'd be able to be in a way
01:51:43.900
more nurturing or at least more aware of how to deal with her
01:51:48.100
i think when you're with somebody that's your age you're getting to learn and figure it out
01:51:54.080
together i have a question mistakes that you can learn so so i have a question for you do you think
01:51:58.360
that all older women are super mature and always conduct themselves properly in relationships and all
01:52:06.180
younger women are just these like chaotic can't conduct themselves in a relationship is that your
01:52:12.540
position no because i can tell you from experience i've had a lot of experience dating women in
01:52:17.620
their 30s and 40s and they're just as if not more troublesome than women in their 20s from my own
01:52:26.380
personal experience my own anecdotal experience in fact women we've had on the show who tend to be in
01:52:32.120
their 30s and 40s post-show create more issues for us by fucking trying to do reputation destruction
01:52:39.700
i'm dealing with it right now 40 year old women are the ones that are like trying to do reputation
01:52:46.280
destruction doing malicious shit than like some 20 year old chick or whatever she got owned in an
01:52:51.960
argument i mean i think are these single women for the most part how's that how's that relevant
01:52:58.500
bitterness so okay so they get more bitter as time goes on so they're less they would be less good
01:53:05.660
matches for a partnership because they're bitter yeah i would think so in general but okay so then
01:53:09.460
say the same thing about men and that's from my experience right but you're arguing for younger
01:53:13.200
women they are also embittered by life and they're jaded and they're looking for something that's easier
01:53:17.880
okay sure let's assume let's assume that's true are are they still selecting for what would be best for
01:53:24.260
them yeah but i think it's kind of selfish to do something for your own self-interest at somebody
01:53:30.180
else's disadvantage well that's really weird because uh if that's the case and you've kind
01:53:35.060
of destroyed your own argument because you're saying like the phone that you should yeah if
01:53:39.900
you're saying you shouldn't do this thing x based out of your own self-interest in this particular case
01:53:46.040
uh wouldn't you be telling any of these women to operate against their own self-interest
01:53:51.400
by telling them not to date an older man yeah if they wanted to date an older man and this older man
01:53:58.900
had resources could take care of them and they loved them well i don't understand how it's not
01:54:02.640
in their best interest to marry him i mean if all those things are true and they're actually like
01:54:05.560
a good genuine guy sure then that would be in their best interest but i think why is it a problem
01:54:09.960
because i think you're making up a scenario that's not representative of reality
01:54:13.380
thanks what is well wait what's representative of reality that a lot of times when older men go for
01:54:18.000
younger women it is because they're looking for someone easier and so why are the younger women
01:54:22.620
going for them because they are naive and they don't have real world experience they're going
01:54:26.820
through a transitionary stage in their life where they are leaving their home and they don't know
01:54:32.260
how to make sense of the world so they have no accountability
01:54:35.280
you could argue that okay so since they have no accountability why can they vote
01:54:43.160
i mean that's another discussion no i think it's a relevant discussion because we're either going to
01:54:50.100
treat 18 year olds as adults who can make their own decisions or we're not no because an 18 year
01:54:55.400
old could be very book smart but that doesn't ensure that she knows how to deal with romantic
01:55:01.740
relationships romantic relationships and being book smart is different that's why they say there's
01:55:06.880
book martin street smart you can't just put it all in one box why should we assume that she can
01:55:11.040
manage any relationship in any age bracket she could be smart enough in the books got all straight
01:55:16.320
days and knows exactly what she yeah no i get it geography and history and she's great when it
01:55:22.040
comes to politics but this would still beg the question of asking this this single singular question
01:55:27.040
of if she can't manage a relationship why should she get in any relationship you're bringing up why
01:55:33.560
should she be able to vote if she can't be in a relationship but i know what i'm saying is that
01:55:37.980
if the issue is because you're bringing up voting but voting has nothing to do with dealing with the
01:55:42.160
issue is experience and knowledge and she can she can't manage her own affairs because she can't be
01:55:47.320
held accountable because she's too young then why are we treating her like an adult that's the question
01:55:52.020
i do want to i don't think there's an answer there i do want to get back really quick to the
01:55:58.320
commonality thing so you guys were saying well what does a 20 year old 30 year old or 20 40 year old
01:56:04.560
whatever it is they don't have anything in common can you just articulate to me what men and women
01:56:10.080
around the same age have in common or i'll even grant you what do men and women have in common
01:56:17.140
i think it's all individually um yeah but what what is something that you would have in common with
01:56:23.140
somebody that would be you have something so in common that you're going to choose with to be with
01:56:27.800
them on that basis alone maybe the way they view things in life
01:56:32.620
like values yeah like i feel like okay so couldn't couldn't an 18 year old have the same values
01:56:41.280
as a 28 year old they could but they could have different experiences leading up to that
01:56:47.240
okay graduating college experience seeing like the bars anything like yeah i got like your life okay let
01:56:55.220
me ask you a question so let's let's say you're 30 you're a 30 year old man and you don't drink you
01:57:00.660
don't party you never did maybe you went to a bar once and you want a partner who doesn't drink
01:57:06.940
doesn't party doesn't doesn't go out to bars and clubs do you have more in common with a 20 year old
01:57:12.740
who's never gone out to bars and never drank or with a 30 year old who goes to raves goes to music
01:57:19.280
festivals parties at every weekend and is basically a borderline alcoholic who would be a better partner
01:57:26.000
for who who has more in common with who are we doing the 18 and 40 now or 20 we can any it doesn't
01:57:31.440
really matter i'm just giving you it's still an age gap no i see what you're saying i do agree like i
01:57:37.740
said i don't think it's wrong it's obviously not illegal i just no which but answer the question
01:57:42.880
though so which one do you have more and has more in common obviously the two that have the most in
01:57:49.060
common oh so there is a there is a commonality the ones that don't drink yeah but i think the issue
01:57:53.800
is more so how big the age gap is it's like the older you get i feel like it's more acceptable
01:58:02.480
than i mean an 18 year old is even though you're legally an adult could we all agree that you've we
01:58:11.200
were kids at 18 right yeah i felt like you say that i could feel like i was an adult looking back
01:58:17.220
no i can't i can't agree to that no i can't agree that um that i was a kid at uh at 18 um no
01:58:25.040
child like a kid a kid a kid would allude to somebody who is not an adult uh no i would say
01:58:31.240
it was an adult at 18 or say all of you were adults at 18 i think you're trying to infantilize
01:58:35.740
women because you want to make men out to be predatory but you can't make arguments for how
01:58:39.740
they're being predatory i think regardless if the woman is 40 yeah so what this is what this is is
01:58:45.480
this is typified loading of language and you see this from feminist circles all the time wouldn't
01:58:50.120
you consider yourself a kid at 18 no and no i wouldn't consider any of you to be kids at 18
01:58:55.440
consider you to be adults at 18 i'm not going to infantilize you so that you can say that men
01:59:00.320
who want to date younger women are predatory i would need an actual argument for why they were
01:59:04.920
predatory and so far i haven't heard one i think what he's trying to get at is why do men all of
01:59:10.860
sudden become like more nefarious with age like i've heard girls talk about guys and awful things
01:59:17.440
that guys will do and they're usually like college age guys so to that point like wouldn't a man who's
01:59:23.520
more mature more experienced wouldn't he actually possibly be less nefarious than a 21 year old 20
01:59:30.160
year old that would be nice if that were the truth but a lot isn't that i think that's what
01:59:35.560
it's going to is like your world like the world view that you think uh age as it gets as a man is
01:59:41.220
older he becomes like more tactic and or like calculating and he's like oh here's this 18 year
01:59:47.880
old maybe he just got a divorce because women initiate most divorces he's now divorced and he wants to
01:59:54.720
maybe still have kids still uh have a different life so he's gonna have to have a younger woman
02:00:01.180
right would that be somebody who's like being calculated in a nefarious way or someone who's
02:00:06.560
just saying yeah i want to still have a family i want my wife to be younger that wouldn't be like
02:00:13.040
calculated in a bad way that would be calculating in a way that is that's what he wants right you could
02:00:18.100
find a young woman that's still fertile and not go for an 18 year old 20 versus 30 is more acceptable
02:00:24.120
yeah even well i think we're just using the extreme end of the spectrum like a 40 year old
02:00:28.740
and an 18 year old but i think the point that well they're going to maybe we can tie it together a
02:00:33.380
different way um so are you guys on the from my perspective the right side of the table in the
02:00:40.520
green are you okay with sex work yes okay so what if a 40 year old woman has sex with an 18 year old
02:00:51.060
man who pays her is that okay i feel the same way it's not okay for them to do i feel like either way
02:00:58.900
it could be predatorial yeah but is it okay george donated two hundred dollars so if the 40 year old
02:01:06.900
has an 18 year old daughter and is hip to her age's culture having been extensively involved in her life
02:01:13.620
and her friends is he unqualified to date younger based on commonality
02:01:17.780
uh having been extensively involved in her life and friends he's just saying if a 40 year old man
02:01:26.020
has tons in common with an 18 year old why would it he's just making the same same claim like why
02:01:31.260
would that be a problem if they have a bunch of in common and they love each other back so back to
02:01:36.280
andrew's thing he's asking a 40 year old s worker with 18 year old who male who's paying for it
02:01:43.260
paying for it paying for it yeah they're paying for it yeah that changes things i thought yeah yeah is
02:01:49.060
that okay if he's paying for it why well i don't understand what's the difference
02:01:55.300
so what would be the difference then if a 40 year old just wanted to have sex for free
02:02:01.200
i would just personally if i had an 18 year old son and he was messing with a four-year-old woman i
02:02:08.500
i don't see that going over unless he was paying for it i i don't know if this is going to get
02:02:17.820
anywhere are we on no no i think it's getting somewhere it's getting to a great place so what
02:02:23.380
if he's paying for it is it okay then so if he goes hey mom i just plowed a hooker she's 40 i gave her
02:02:29.340
some money that's okay in your world view just not if she does it for free well dating versus
02:02:35.840
just having a one night stand basically are two different scenarios oh so as long as 40 year old
02:02:41.240
men are just fucking 18 year old women it's fine i think it's more p word hang on hang on i just want
02:02:48.280
to make sure i just want to make sure let me just talk to them for a second i just want to make
02:02:51.780
sure i get this right as long as 40 year old men are just fucking 18 year old women it's fine
02:02:56.400
just not having relationship well the 18 year old woman she does get to choose what she does with
02:03:01.700
her body i wouldn't accept who to date with it i wouldn't recommend that but if she wants to make
02:03:08.380
her her money because maybe she has rent to pay whatever whatever the case may be she got to make
02:03:14.560
means meet that's different than just dating a man wait wait wait so let me get this right
02:03:20.160
if the roles are reversed a 40 year old man only wants to hump 18 year old women
02:03:25.400
why would that be a problem if you're saying that a woman can hump 18 year old men as long as
02:03:33.160
the 18 year old pays her for it i feel the same no matter what you feel the same what you just said
02:03:41.840
it was perfectly acceptable reversed in the same situation i feel the same way i feel like women
02:03:46.300
can be predators too yeah yeah so so then you think that sex workers should not be allowed to
02:03:53.200
have sex with 18 year olds they can't they can't do scenes with them they can't do any of those types
02:03:57.560
of things right that would be bad wouldn't it i wouldn't personally agree to it but because they're
02:04:03.340
of age to make their own decisions then they can choose to do that but i wouldn't say i would recommend
02:04:08.400
that or that that's personally right but they make their own decisions if they're paying for it and
02:04:14.220
that's their source of income okay so so what you're saying is is that inside the porn industry
02:04:22.060
you would say it's bad for a 40 year old to do an adult scene with an 18 year old
02:04:28.960
that that's like worse than if it was just a 30 year old doing a scene with a 40 year old
02:04:35.260
yes it's worse it's worse yeah okay and it's worse because the 18 year old can't make these
02:04:45.540
decisions no i believe i just said they're old enough to make their own decisions okay but by
02:04:51.280
this logic wouldn't you say then that 18 year old shouldn't be involved in sex work at all
02:04:56.320
i wouldn't recommend someone so young getting into sex work but i also can understand that
02:05:05.520
they're of age to make their own decisions so everyone has different circumstances in life you
02:05:11.120
know you could have a full ride scholarship to school other women don't get that privilege
02:05:17.660
not saying that all sex workers have to do sex work but i am no i'm in no position to judge young
02:05:25.300
women okay okay that's fine so then so then we can just agree then that there's nothing actually
02:05:30.560
immoral with an 18 year old dating a 40 year old right well you're bringing up sex work dating is
02:05:37.580
different than sex work why would it be why would it be okay for them to do to to have a physical
02:05:42.780
relationship with each other uh as long as there was money involved that's really weird
02:05:47.800
because that is a job and one is dating yeah what well i don't understand why would it why would
02:05:56.320
you paying somehow change the dynamic of this power dynamic which is what you're against right it's
02:06:03.320
still massive power dynamic issue isn't it i think we all agree that it's not immoral it just could be
02:06:10.180
inappropriate which is a it's just an opinion more than it is well what does inappropriate mean
02:06:14.640
if like what does that mean i i think different things are inappropriate probably than brooklyn and
02:06:19.260
lily do like what i mean do you want me to say things i think are inappropriate like yeah it gives
02:06:26.980
them the ick yeah i just want to know i just want to hear that it gives you the ick there's nothing
02:06:30.920
immoral about it just it's just icky you just think it's icky i just think that different things
02:06:34.620
are inappropriate than other things that i'm sure other people find inappropriate things i might
02:06:39.040
find inappropriate other people might not okay uh so i think just for the sake of time i do have
02:06:44.600
to move things on a little bit i didn't really get an answer though i'll come back to this quick
02:06:49.040
we were talking about commonality i still haven't really heard what men and women have in common
02:06:56.600
what i'm opening this up well you were making the i think you were making or
02:07:06.220
well men and women in general or men and women as in 18 and 40 years what would be something that
02:07:11.380
a man and a man and a woman could have in common that would be sufficient enough for them to
02:07:18.520
want to date simply by virtue of having a commonality maybe their religion yeah religion
02:07:25.780
okay but what like within the context of age so we have something in common because
02:07:34.460
we're about the same age so a 70 year old and a 20 year old could have religion in common oh i think
02:07:41.920
there's a higher chance of maybe both people not having kids at a younger age or a marriage and it's
02:07:48.060
some people would be very important to them as it is to me for i i wouldn't be with a man that
02:07:53.680
has a child because i want it to be our both let's assume this hypothetical 30 year old doesn't have
02:07:59.940
kids and neither does the 20 year old it really is so situational yeah well but i but you said like
02:08:10.380
okay if it has to do with age what do they have because you brought up they graduated well they
02:08:16.300
recently graduated at the same time has anybody ever dated somebody oh we graduated at the same
02:08:22.620
time let's fuck has that ever happened probably really because that's that's not because i find
02:08:30.260
her physically attractive i think it's all of it it's you find wow she graduated more attractive
02:08:36.380
the more you have in common with them but okay why don't you think life stage is a big thing to have
02:08:41.640
in common like you can't have it in common right but if that was the hold on if that was the
02:08:51.260
attraction trigger then all high school students would be attracted to all high school students
02:08:56.900
which clearly isn't the case right so it's clear to me that commonality on its own is not hold on
02:09:03.340
is not sufficient enough to create attraction between two people i don't think any one thing is
02:09:09.400
i think the stage in life is more sufficient for like securing a bond but also do you think that
02:09:15.900
most high schoolers don't date other high schoolers that's not what i'm arguing of course high
02:09:21.860
schoolers date other high schoolers like i think it seems pretty normal that people date within yeah
02:09:26.640
no most most people date most people date around their age i would say but this idea that you are
02:09:35.020
precluded from finding somebody outside like if you're precluded from finding somebody who's uh 10 years
02:09:41.120
your senior you can't find them attractive because they're not your your ages i don't think anyone's
02:09:47.300
putting like a hard stop on it i think most people or a lot of women just have the experience with older
02:09:51.720
men where it is a little bit more predatory or uncomfortable exactly i don't even think it's
02:09:56.920
predatory one direction it's only predatory when men do it right no no she said no i didn't say that
02:10:02.600
but yeah you said when men i said that most women go through that experience go through what
02:10:08.120
experience dealing with predatory men that are attracted to you when you're 21 or younger okay
02:10:15.140
well let's talk about adult relationships so find 18 and up women have the experience of being adults
02:10:21.620
at 18 with men who are 30 being attracted to them and oftentimes they turn out to be predatory
02:10:28.440
how is it but why how is it predatory just a lot of men are they just are if it wasn't illegal why
02:10:36.140
shouldn't i date a 16 year old i'm only 21 not even well we're talking about adults here so
02:10:41.620
but like you're the one who's making it about underage yeah you can make you can make the you
02:10:46.400
can make the same argument the same exact way we'd love i look i'd be happy to get into it so would
02:10:52.160
brian but there are restrictions to the stream that we can't do anything about so keep it above
02:10:56.820
the 18 mark if you don't do you think a car salesman is gonna have an easier time selling to
02:11:01.220
somebody that's 40 or somebody that's 18 i'm getting somebody to make a bad decision i'm not
02:11:06.140
an expert in i think that they would have a lot easier time selling to somebody who's 18
02:11:10.940
i'm not why uh well because i think that somebody who's 18 probably doesn't have the requisite
02:11:21.800
experience that a 40 year old would have when selecting a car i think that's kind of my point
02:11:31.060
oh that's your point so then you're saying that 18 year olds should not be able to buy cars
02:11:37.060
no no wait wait hang on why not why shouldn't 18 year olds be able to buy cars i think they should
02:11:43.540
still be able to buy cars but i think we can also acknowledge wait wait wait what i thought
02:11:47.080
why whoa whoa whoa but the salesman's predatory against 18 year olds because he can even more
02:11:52.620
easily sell him a car those two things can still be true wait wait what those two things can still
02:11:57.320
be true well okay yeah okay so those two things are still can still be true i agree so he's he's
02:12:02.920
predatory because he's selling her a car and she is does not have the requisite experience of a 40 year
02:12:09.460
old to buy that car so it's going to be easier for him right yes so then why would you let 18 year
02:12:15.840
old buy cars just because an 18 year old let her answer i think i'm just trying to acknowledge
02:12:22.420
sorry i'm just trying to acknowledge that you can take advantage of people that are inexperienced yeah
02:12:27.280
but i want you to acknowledge that if you if you agree that this is something which is happening
02:12:33.400
that 18 year olds are getting taken advantage of in this situation or in any other situation
02:12:40.900
i'm sorry but we didn't make the rules yeah i know i'm not talking hang on just let's i'm talking
02:12:50.980
to her why do you let them do this stuff if you think that everybody is being predatory towards them
02:12:57.500
because they're so stupid and inexperienced that they can't make good decisions like 40 year olds that's
02:13:02.340
what i don't get i guess at some point you have to allow people to make their own decisions but yeah
02:13:06.220
that's right and what point do we allow people to make their own decisions hang on what point do
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we allow people to make their own decisions we allow it at 18 that's right we allow it at 18 so
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i guess at 18 they can make their own decision to date a 40 year old man right and that still
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doesn't negate the fact that people can be predatory towards them and it doesn't negate the fact
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that they should be allowed in all conditions to date a 40 year old man if they would like to
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be allowed to aren't you though isn't that weird that you think that they should be allowed to
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even though you think that it's predatory that's really strange like i would say my logical brain
02:13:42.940
does this it goes wait if there's some industry which is super predatory towards a single group
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then i would try to get rid of that industry wouldn't you try to get rid of the doesn't that
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make more sense i mean in some cases i would yeah i probably would agree for certain industries but
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yeah but just not with used car salesmen they're allowed to sell cars to 18 year olds
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yeah appliance salesmen what about houses can 18 year olds buy houses wouldn't wouldn't a real
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estate agent be more easily convincing towards an 18 year old as well
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maybe maybe yeah i mean maybe i i mean i guess i guess though we just gotta let those 18 year olds
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at some point we just gotta let them spread their wings and fly are you gonna stop advising your
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children when they turn 18 no are you gonna stop trying like are you just gonna stop trying to
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direct them in the right direction and help them make better decisions no okay that's all we're
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talking about we're not saying you should be able to do what are you talking what the what the fuck is
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this i agree i agree i agree with her that's what that means see and that's something that you
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wouldn't know because you're a lot older uh yeah exactly can't date a girl if you don't know what her
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little uh her little you can't date her if you don't know what but it could get like exhausting
02:15:01.000
having to explain lingo and just crazy stuff okay so hold on okay so anyway but uh but i just want
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to finish this i'll wrap it real quick right i just want to make sure that i get this right
02:15:12.960
that 18 year olds are out there being preyed on every day by hyper predatory industries and people
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but you think that they should be in order to gain experience right
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yes okay thank you and it's not going to stop me from that means that 40 year old men who are out
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there being predatory that's good for 18 year old women because that's how they gain experience i
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appreciate that very much okay i still haven't heard anything on the commonality thing that's
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particularly convincing um i guess for those of you who brought up the i think it was you who brought
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up the commonality thing i have one what just one thing so have you ever known someone who you have
02:15:59.000
a lot in common with but you're not attracted to them yes okay so clearly maybe you've met somebody
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who you have the most in common with but you didn't date them you're not attracted to them
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so it's clear to me that commonality is not really an attraction trigger in people so it's not about
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having something in common it's about what you find attractive um so i guess do you guys think that
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having things in common is a primary attraction trigger i think it should be you think it should
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be is it for me i think for a lot of people it's not but i i think it'd be good for people to try to
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transcend their superficial attractions okay that would be good wouldn't it but and i think i think
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people are capable of doing that let me ask you a question so my husband he's really good at like
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a lot of things with the house and he's very handy and he could do i have no none of that experience
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and nor do i care to do any of it so that wouldn't be a commonality or me trying to transcend so i can
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have more commonality with him right like what would be the point of me trying to like go out there
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or build the tree house with a kid for the kids or go do stuff in his garage like i mean maybe your
02:17:11.920
commonality is something you don't have anything in common with your husband i mean some stuff but
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some of the stuff that's now commonality with things like he introduced me to and why did you
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like him in the first place i was attracted to him and so you just dated him purely on physical
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attraction physical attraction he had a lot of charisma he made me laugh i mean those were all
02:17:31.520
attraction triggers and at our first date though i wasn't like oh he doesn't like reading books
02:17:36.960
that's so why do you think he started dating you i'm assuming to attraction he wasn't really
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commonality huh maybe that's your commonality yeah but both care about looks that's what most people
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look for is like they're looking your first attraction is going to be a physical attraction
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and there can be things that develop that are commonalities but i think if that's your sole
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reason to get with somebody because oh we both like this sport i mean that's going to be
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pretty mundane down the road that all you guys have is like that common trait like if you just have
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one sport that's probably going to get pretty boring but yeah but i'm saying in general just trying
02:18:15.100
to match against commonalities i think is like here let me ask a question so let's say there's
02:18:20.420
some guy out there who has the most in common with you like out of every single person in the world
02:18:25.880
most in common with you you also brought up commonality most in common with you he's not
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attractive at all physically just not your physical type at all are you going to date him if my boyfriend
02:18:37.660
transformed into that person yes absolutely let's assume you're single in this scenario
02:18:41.600
yeah you're not he's i don't know what your opposite of your type is he's not it yeah you
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you date him yeah you date a guy who you were like physically repulsed by yes so long as he likes the
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same movies and books as you it's like sharing a worldview you don't think you share a worldview with
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your husband i think he's actually uh really aided and like shifting my worldview okay i had a really
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but i think that's an important part of a relationship and how you bond is by adopting a
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similar worldview but i mean that took i mean we've been together 16 years so it's not like he changed
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my worldview year one but here i do i do got to move it on we we did shift gears there from the whole
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men desiring virgins to the age gap conversation why don't we spend at least three more minutes
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quickly because we we stuck on the age gap thing for quite a bit i'm still confused by the men who
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want virgin women are p words i'm still confused there i don't think we really got a good solid
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answer i just i mean my opinion is my opinion it doesn't have to be anybody else's i just think
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it's alarming when a man who is not a virgin himself only wants to date virgins that's
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but you said it's p word i think there's a correlation there's a correlation so does that
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mean that because you want to push gift i should automatically assume you're a gold digger i don't
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think you are but you do want to push gift which gold diggers would probably also want to push gift
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but that does not logically make you like a gold digger so a man who might have a little bit of
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that digger in me i'm not gonna lie okay i'm not gonna sit up here and i'm not gonna sit up here and
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say like and money's not everything to me but i would like my man to be well off i'm gonna have a
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child with him okay i guess i'll bring it back to the bald coochie thing then um are women who aren't
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attracted to balding men if they're if a woman is not attracted to a man who's balding
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is she a p word wait i'm sorry say it again is a woman who is not attracted to a man who
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is balding is she a p word because typically only adult men tend to be uh balding or bald
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no but i would think maybe if she's not attracted well how old is this man
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because i'm gonna say only i would say it's a little alarming if she's only how about let me
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reframe it she's only attracted to men with a full head of hair is she a p word okay
02:21:23.060
oh wait oh it's i don't really note the top of your head is the same as a man saying i don't
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want to have sex with a woman who doesn't clean up down there so is your argument that because this
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certain condition is present when you're a child basically that because that condition is present
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when you're a child therefore you're a pedophile if you also desire that condition in adulthood
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no i don't think that it's i don't i'm talking only strictly about the men that are just so
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absolutely fixated on the idea of a virgin it's a it's a difference like oh i prefer virgin but i
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will date other women but there's some men that are are commenting and saying that they would only
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and only see value in women that are virgins yeah but i mean so what like that's why that's the part i
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don't get is so what i guess it's not for you to get then it's and it does and that's okay
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yeah yeah i just i really don't understand if a man is only desirous of a virgin and that's all
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that he desires who gives a shit i mean not you that's and that's it gives the ick it gives the
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ick anyways you guys have been just waiting for us to say like if i want to get out of a conversation
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do i just say ick ick yeah i know i know i know people i know when people are pressed i know this
02:23:06.520
possibly the first time in your entire life you've been pressed on a position it's very uncomfortable
02:23:10.340
but uh it doesn't have to be you can just you know engage in the position that you espouse and
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then back it up with logic and reason and arguments things but we can just do emotions right so okay
02:23:22.560
it doesn't give me the ick and it gives you the ick does that does that make you feel better we just do
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that it gives you the ick doesn't give me the it okay yeah whatever okay it is interesting to me just
02:23:34.020
i guess final thought on this that a lot of men's preferences standards and boundaries
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tend to end up being framed in this it always ends up being pathologized in some sort of way
02:23:47.780
if a man has a preference standard or boundary it's you're you're insecure you're it goes even beyond
02:23:55.540
just that to beyond just shaming to pathologizing criminalizing you know the p word stuff uh if he
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prefers a younger adult woman or if he prefers bear coochie bald coochie excuse me um prefers a
02:24:12.920
virgin even though the virgin so do you you prefer bald coochie yeah so it is interesting though like
02:24:20.520
you know insecure uh what are some of the other uh shaming language that tends to be used with
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men's preferences insecure misogynist blah blah whatever anyways uh let's do three more it's okay
02:24:34.460
anyway brian as long as you pay for it it's fine yeah oh and on that note shout out to my waxer
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self-care by ash yo shout out ash what's up i'm gonna hit you up okay wait so hold on la i'm sorry
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last thing last thing is it okay for a woman at 18 to start doing only fans
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that's that's her business not mine but you you don't take you don't have any qualms or objections
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to it nope so you no objections to an 18 year old woman doing sex work but objections to an 18 year
02:25:05.000
old woman for example dating a 35 year old man who's desirous of a long-term monogamous relationship
02:25:10.220
with her and who's otherwise a healthy individual healthy would have a healthy relationship with her
02:25:15.380
and uh would yeah i just my stance on only fans i don't have one myself but i'm all for it because
02:25:22.560
i think it's an ethical way to get porn to wait to get cool yeah well i don't i don't want to
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or watch porn okay so i think it's an ethical i'm not gonna linger on the of stuff for long um let's
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just pull up the next three clips and i'll i'll get into other people's notes ahead nick
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go ahead to normalize making men work for sex why are you guys so eager to give up your goji
02:25:50.200
for what it's up to you to create that boundary of i'm not gonna sleep with this man right away
02:25:55.680
it's literally all in your hands you have all the power you have the portal of life between your legs
02:26:00.560
so act like it stop just giving it up because someone gave you a little bit of attention
02:26:06.200
a little compliment and a little liquor do better do want better for yourself let's normalize
02:26:11.860
so i played this clip right after the previous one the one where you made criticisms over men
02:26:20.380
wanting virgins i'm just confused here so on one hand you're recommending women withhold sex wait to
02:26:26.080
have sex abstain be celibate you're celibate yourself at least by your own admission how it seems a
02:26:33.020
like how do you reconcile on one hand thinking men are p words for desiring chaste sexually pure women
02:26:41.300
whether that means virgin or low body count but also so you're recommending women hold off on having
02:26:48.740
sex with men but on the same hand it's wrong for men to desire precisely that in women can you
02:26:57.400
reconcile that for me yeah that's really really weird
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i just think uh most men not all but i would say most men are usually undeserving
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of sex from yeah so we'll just we'll just grant that for a second right we'll just grant that yes
02:27:18.680
you think that most men are undeserving of sex but what we're asking is if you're recommending
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that women stay chaste that they're not giving up uh sex to men then their body counts necessarily
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going to be lower so if that is a desire that men have to have these women with lower body counts
02:27:36.560
why would you then say that they're akin to you know pdf files because they desire the traits that
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you're advocating women have i'm uh preaching about women holding out because i think if women do
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better than it forces men to do better well wait hold on you're not really addressing the thing so
02:27:58.380
okay let's say a woman is a virgin okay what do is your advice steadfast if she's a virgin should
02:28:06.320
should she can also wait should she also wait well you said that women shouldn't just be giving out
02:28:13.880
the coochie right you said women should hold that shit like how long you are you gonna wait
02:28:19.560
when the next guy comes along you said you've been celibate for two years right yeah i don't have
02:28:26.560
it's not a certain amount of date rule or anything i just think um when someone shows up for you and
02:28:35.040
you can see their um they prove themselves to their actions is when that'd be a more appropriate
02:28:41.040
time to have sex rather than oh hey i just met you i know nothing about you
02:28:46.000
yeah that makes so this this actually makes sense um so just to just to clarify this uh you're you're
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saying that women and their chastity their sexuality is really valuable
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right that's a valuable thing that they hold right yes but it's not the only value they hold
02:29:07.060
i'm not saying it is and i'm not saying you're saying it is i'm not saying you're saying that that's
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the only value they hold i'm just saying you do agree that it's a very valuable thing right yes
02:29:17.360
i mean i i see why men would think the same thing but i think for i'm telling women to do it
02:29:27.160
for themselves not for yeah no i get that your motivation is because you think that it's empowering
02:29:33.640
to women to withhold sex until it's with a partner who's worthy of sex right correct but that
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necessarily is going to mean that those women have a higher status than other women because they give
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out sex far less right that women that hold off have higher status than women that don't is what
02:29:55.120
you're saying yeah yeah as far as valuable goes as far as value i don't i don't agree with that i don't
02:30:00.380
look at well then why wouldn't you recommend that women just fuck everybody that they see i don't i
02:30:04.420
don't get it they might there must be some value here in not doing that i think the consistency
02:30:09.480
between not wanting younger women to date older men and not wanting women to hang on we're not they
02:30:14.360
were way off of the we're way off the age gap here i know we started this by by saying how the two
02:30:20.780
things seemed like contradictory and i'm saying i think the consistency is that it's advising women
02:30:25.180
against allowing themselves to be used by men yeah no i agree i'm granting that
02:30:30.280
this is true that basically by doing this right you become a more valuable woman i don't think
02:30:36.360
that's why well then why wouldn't you recommend that women don't do this because i think when you
02:30:41.700
allow people to use you it is a sign of low self-esteem and it can right and so would you
02:30:46.780
would you say that that makes you less valuable or more valuable i don't think it has anything to
02:30:51.200
do with value it's not so you don't think the opposite sex sees any value in this even though
02:30:57.440
you yourself seem to see value in this for other in other words if a woman is promiscuous
02:31:01.640
do you think that's better if she's not promiscuous i think it's better if somebody
02:31:05.340
is not promiscuous yes then men think the same thing that doesn't mean i think somebody is more
02:31:09.320
valuable as a person because they yeah but i mean the reason i'm using the word value
02:31:13.540
so that you understand and equating these two things uh and we can remove the word if it makes
02:31:18.800
you more comfortable value it's just because i think that men see a value in less promiscuous
02:31:25.100
women you also seem to see a value in less promiscuous women right are you speaking no i
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don't see like a more value in them okay well then i'm sorry i just want to get this right
02:31:39.360
do you think women should be less promiscuous or more promiscuous should be less promiscuous
02:31:43.840
okay so there must be some value in being less promiscuous i think the hang on let her answer
02:31:49.460
please i think we're using value in two different ways okay how would you use it
02:31:54.940
i guess one is like materializing something into worth better or worse like hierarchy putting
02:32:04.520
something on a hierarchy of who is worth more than another person and value in terms of like
02:32:12.120
inherent value i don't know that's just restating value so you're just saying value is value that's
02:32:24.880
not telling me what value is i think so what so so hang on let her let her answer please so what
02:32:30.760
is so what is value i already said the value so there's there's two ways to define it and the
02:32:40.420
first way would be kind of assigning it like this material value and you're saying that somebody is
02:32:50.260
worth more or less yeah okay so what's the second way to define it
02:32:54.300
i don't know i don't have a good answer right now well i think we're getting stuck here so i think
02:33:02.360
you're trying to say well we shouldn't view humans as more or less valuable but we're talking from a
02:33:09.040
dating lens from a dating context so in terms of your value as a human being we're all equal in value
02:33:14.740
but when it comes to for example i would assume you would value one person over the other when it
02:33:21.480
comes to who you choose to date otherwise you would make no distinction in choosing one person
02:33:26.440
over the other if they were both of equal perceived value in terms of their dating market value does
02:33:33.920
that make sense sure yeah so for example i don't know if you like men who are tall who have their shit
02:33:39.100
together who have a job who are employed gainfully employed as compared to a guy who you're not
02:33:44.720
physically attracted to doesn't have a shit together lives in his mother's basement you would probably
02:33:49.720
value that other guy uh the guy number one over guy number two when making a determination as to
02:33:56.660
who you would uh partner with sure yeah and that that one would be of more value
02:34:03.200
perhaps you don't like the framing of it yeah i think it's probably more of that what's that
02:34:09.560
but it's probably more of that i don't like the framing of it okay the implication that one person
02:34:13.900
let me ask you a question would you rather how tall you five seven does height matter at all to you
02:34:18.580
no nothing okay would you rather date a man who's six foot or five foot i don't care you don't care
02:34:24.500
i don't care really i don't how you're currently in a relationship correct how tall is your boyfriend
02:34:30.720
five eight he's five eight okay so you wouldn't rather date a man with a hunchback in a peg leg or
02:34:39.260
a man who didn't have a hunchback in a peg leg this is a fucking pirate i don't know she likes pirates
02:34:48.720
she might i mean i mean honestly would you prefer that if the man if he looked like quasimodo and he
02:34:54.440
had like kind of down syndrome and he had a big hump on his back and he had a peg leg would you prefer
02:35:00.200
to date him or all things equal they have the same attributes him and a guy too but guy too just look
02:35:09.780
normal which one would you prefer yeah i can see it i would date the other one wait hold on yeah sure
02:35:15.960
wait so okay i i'm not gonna actually even i'm not gonna allow grant this you'd rather date a five
02:35:21.500
foot guy over a six foot guy all else being equal why i won't even i won't even you say that but so
02:35:29.820
let me ask you a question do you think you want do you want children yeah you want kids right do you
02:35:37.260
think it's advantageous in life to be tall does it confer benefits sure does it confer benefits to be
02:35:45.420
physically attractive like ideally wouldn't your children be better situated to maneuver through
02:35:52.600
life if they were really physically attractive sure okay so just on that basis of alone let's say
02:35:58.920
you don't even you don't give a fuck at all in terms of sexual desire or physical attractiveness you
02:36:03.980
don't actually care right but intellectually in your head if i partner with somebody who's tall
02:36:10.320
and physically attractive my offspring my children have a better chance of themselves being physically
02:36:16.760
attractive and tall and that would confer onto them certain benefits throughout the course of their
02:36:22.000
life i want to set up my children as best as i possibly can would you not assuming all else being
02:36:28.500
equal if the choice was between a five foot guy and a six foot guy you wouldn't pick the six foot guy
02:36:33.460
just purely on the basis that you would be more likely to have tall children yeah i think if i had a son
02:36:39.360
and i chose the five foot tall dude he'd be very upset to find out about my decision so yeah i would
02:36:44.280
pick the six foot tall person okay so you would then prefer to date the six foot guy no no now that
02:36:51.560
i've walked you through this scenario if i have a choice if i have yeah let's assume you had a choice
02:36:57.440
yeah sure okay all right not sure how convincing that was to you let me read a couple chats then we got
02:37:03.280
to get back into a couple things uh gabe's world can i have you read ladies sure single father of two
02:37:10.560
boys army veteran of 14 years uh 11b can you ask the ladies to rate my photo on ig
02:37:18.200
uh so the threshold i don't even think we have that as an option anymore i'm pretty sure
02:37:24.700
let me just double check i don't think we have we don't have instagram review
02:37:29.400
the threshold for that would have been 400 but we're not going to do it for uh but brian he's an
02:37:35.640
infantryman but brian he's an infantryman we gotta do it we gotta do it at the appropriate
02:37:43.280
threshold not really something we can uh offer here but uh yeah not i just outright will just
02:37:49.340
say no we can't do uh instagram reviews can you read this one sure brian you're in prison your prison
02:37:55.060
daddy named tiny gives you a choice a tattoo that says property of tiny or a tramp stamp that says
02:38:02.840
lucky you you will face harassment in the cell block uh what what's going on definitely property of
02:38:12.640
tiny right because then at least you're somebody's property and then lucky me's like shoot your shot
02:38:19.380
bad i'm asking for a unit change i'm moving units i'm i'm gonna actually i'm gonna just um
02:38:26.860
go into protective custody i don't know i don't know i'm going in the hole going in the hole yeah
02:38:31.820
can you read this one they aren't requiring virgins they're saying the lower the body count a woman
02:38:38.180
has better suited she is for long-term relationship marriage also man's body count isn't the same as
02:38:46.260
women's body count we're not equal hey desert joe thank you for the uh the uh stream labs don't
02:38:52.200
appreciate it man thank you guys appreciate it um were there any final thoughts on that video andrew
02:38:57.020
or shall we move things along oh you had something what you got what you got for us it wasn't about
02:39:02.820
it wasn't about if a woman holds more value i'm just telling women to protect themselves
02:39:08.040
yeah i guess i think me and andrew's confusion here was on one hand you're like okay dudes who
02:39:14.640
like really want virgin women are p words but also ladies don't have sex protect yourself
02:39:22.120
yeah right we were just saying an entailment so it's just so you see i'll try to like kind of
02:39:28.160
break this down a little better for for our position here is um i understand where brian's going he's
02:39:33.760
just saying if you're if you're advising women to and i understand your position here is this thing
02:39:40.840
that you have called sex is something which if it's withheld can be super advantageous to women
02:39:47.260
right if women withhold sex it can be very advantageous to them to do that correct okay but
02:39:54.640
kind of necessarily if they're withholding sex they're probably going to have less sexual partners
02:40:00.280
right yes okay so we're saying that men also value that and you value that i understand that but
02:40:09.980
my how i'm saying you know men are pushing pee and don't sleep with them both of them fall under
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the category of protect yourself from men because you guys are scary creatures yeah i think that women
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are equally uh scary just in different ways right i think i got to go into the bear okay i got to do
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the bear we won't debate it right now but i'm gonna ask a question when you you're hold on what's the
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precise i don't want to fuck up scuff the framing of this okay would you rather come across a random
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i haven't i've heard of this but i haven't really i don't know what the real argument like you're just
02:41:00.060
gut uh i probably the bear because you could scare the bear off you're not going to scare a man off if
02:41:04.600
he sees you along in the woods okay what about you a man the man okay a bear a bear probably the man
02:41:11.260
even if he was ted bundy in his prime still the man still ted bundy oh okay that's a toss up there
02:41:19.640
okay go ahead um honestly this is kind of like stuck in my mind because like if you don't like tempt the
02:41:27.440
bear it's not going to like attack you and if you're just there and you're like kind of i think it's
02:41:31.820
like beast to be fair i haven't done my research on bears and then like same thing as brooklyn said
02:41:36.840
like a man like could do anything like they see you alone in the woods in the dark like and it could
02:41:42.120
be a really nice guy or it could be a guy with really bad intentions so i go ahead
02:41:50.080
i'm uh a man i think it's not not what i thought you were setting up i honestly don't know what i
02:42:00.920
was setting up for it sounds like you're setting up to say bear you know what i'm gonna change my
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answer i'm gonna go bear okay what about you i don't assume all men are bad i would pick a man
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okay oh that's good man and i've had an experience with a bear you've had a bear experience okay
02:42:14.580
really quick we maybe we'll touch on it later just because we have so much to get through i'm just
02:42:19.040
curious uh those of you said bear why well i said you could scare a bear off you probably not
02:42:25.560
gonna scare a man off okay i feel the same way and some men actually get more turned on when you
02:42:31.360
are scared what the okay oh i said man oh you said it was just and you said bear why bear
02:42:37.980
i'm still honestly really conflicted in my answer but i think it's kind of like i think it's like how
02:42:44.520
sharks work like if you don't tempt a shark and then if you just leave it be like it's not going
02:42:49.380
to attack you or if you don't look like a seal i think but like also i might have just watched too
02:42:56.920
many criminal minds where i just assume the worst in all men that when you are alone in dark woods
02:43:02.040
that they could do something really bad to you okay but wait so i'm just curious i'm just curious
02:43:08.040
with this like man or bear thing so just going back to you two i guess um like what percentage
02:43:15.660
of men would you say would like what what percentage of men do you think would choose to
02:43:21.560
that's a 50 50 shot i don't know 50 50 50 percent of men would all right well i mean you have to
02:43:30.480
understand too we're talking from our own like our own views of how we see men the men we encounter
02:43:37.440
the amount of men we encounter it's a lot so ours might be different than so because of your
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experience half the men in this room are predators correct i don't i i can't say that i don't uh i don't
02:43:55.300
know these men i would say that logically they're not predators well i mean that would be the that
02:44:00.400
would be the stats right be one and two yeah well i'm just i'm talking about a large larger sample
02:44:08.380
size than what's in this room yeah but the the sample size would be scalable so it's like if it's
02:44:14.380
one and two then every time you had two men the chances that one of them was a predator would be
02:44:19.400
extremely high and like i said i don't know anyone in this room i just met everyone today
02:44:24.920
so how would i know what you guys do on your free time at the end of the day you're a vegan by
02:44:32.160
the way right i am i don't know why that came to mind uh well a vegan or vegetarian i'm a vegan
02:44:39.620
pescatarian no no no dairy no dairy at all nope no no eggs nope okay good times good times okay so
02:44:52.820
moving off from the bear thing we have we'll do two more videos then we'll get to some other people
02:44:57.560
on the panel let's do the two more videos go ahead oh shit okay go ahead all right y'all keep
02:45:06.560
comparing women to cars and why do y'all keep talking about wanting virgins like what are you 30 40 50
02:45:14.060
and you're commenting about wanting a virgin you probably want a virgin because the older woman
02:45:20.160
is more experienced and she could tell that dick game is whack and your treatment is bullshit
02:45:26.400
why do y'all the dick game is whack okay um okay i think that that was you leanne right
02:45:38.860
lena oh sorry lena my bad um is that why men want virgins is because the the dick game is whack
02:45:48.180
i just my point with the the dick game being whack is that a younger more inexperienced
02:45:59.480
girl wouldn't be able to tell if the dick game yeah good yeah good like why do you i don't understand
02:46:07.780
would do you want her to go fuck a bunch of dudes so she has a frame of reference
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good times uh okay i feel like we already went over this topic so we'd just be like repeating
02:46:25.980
ourselves at this point it's like next clip this is another recap this is the same it's uh it's
02:46:30.980
like a different font just a different font okay i feel people should value being more sexually
02:46:37.400
disciplined but i personally don't believe that body count is an issue as long as you value your energy
02:46:45.060
now and you're very choosy with who you share your body with i think that's what matters
02:46:51.360
get health checkups if you had a little whole phase baby that doesn't mean i'm crossing you off
02:46:57.720
my list that just means you more experienced just get those test results and come on down and show me
02:47:04.140
what you got i will wait so okay okay i'm again this this is where i get confused oh it's not over
02:47:11.920
oh let it keep going say energy is a real thing so the people you do sleep with you really got to be
02:47:17.880
careful who you do share your body with because you could sleep with someone and those demons are
02:47:23.040
now inside of you and now you got to cleanse them out of you and people won't know this information
02:47:28.260
so they'll just go about their everyday life they'll be like oh why am i more depressed
02:47:31.680
oh why i gotta work through this and that more it's because you slept with the wrong person so yeah
02:47:37.280
body count doesn't matter but who you share your body with does matter and if you are more sexually
02:47:43.540
disciplined you'll feel the need to sleep with less and less people because you'll realize that
02:47:48.100
you don't want to exchange energy with a lot of people it is good to be choosy just do better from
02:47:54.320
here on out stop fucking everybody i feel people i'm just here's where i'm confused fair enough so um
02:48:01.460
so what's your body count what's my body count wait hold on well i gotta know right what's the body
02:48:08.660
you know wait we'll have your answer in just a sec but lizzie i want you to answer first
02:48:12.620
to to can i start with a question for you i have a question okay go ahead so you're saying that a
02:48:21.200
woman that has an extremely high body count would still have the same value to you so if i say that
02:48:26.400
my body count is about between 100 and 120 which it is are you not judging me in your mind because i
02:48:32.680
would think you're crazy if you're not no offense no i'm not judging you and i am crazy oh sweet okay
02:48:39.060
so uh so so so then what's what's your body count i don't feel comfortable sharing that i thought you
02:48:46.020
just said in the video it didn't matter it doesn't matter but i'm talking more like if me and a man are
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getting to know each other and he wants to know that information which he could ask me that and i'll be
02:48:57.900
honest with him so then it does matter if he if we want to have a conversation about it then i could
02:49:05.040
tell him no i mean it either does matter it doesn't matter if it doesn't matter why wouldn't you share
02:49:11.340
it i'm not saying you have to i'm just testing the logic of understanding if it doesn't matter
02:49:16.060
then why don't you share what yours is it doesn't matter but i feel like i get to keep personal
02:49:21.500
details to myself and if my man wants to know i'll let him know but i don't understand it doesn't
02:49:26.540
matter though i'm saying in a scenario of me and a man deciding to be with one another so then
02:49:45.480
your body count is your personal story so you get to share that with who you want to
02:49:55.560
yeah i get that you can share it with who you want to but why wouldn't you share it with
02:49:59.560
everybody if it doesn't matter because i'm more private on the public it sounds like it matters to
02:50:07.900
would you believe her if she even told you what it was if she said my body count is two would you
02:50:14.480
believe that multiply it by three and that's the real number so um let us assume for a second i
02:50:20.620
wouldn't don't you think that it's rather suspicious if a person says that body count
02:50:26.620
does not matter but then when asked they say i don't feel comfortable sharing it it sure sounds
02:50:32.460
like they think it matters right yeah or maybe it doesn't matter so much that they don't care to share
02:50:37.040
it well then if it didn't matter so much they didn't care to share it it would matter so little
02:50:42.020
that they wouldn't care to not share it either because it doesn't matter that's what doesn't matter
02:50:46.300
means if it doesn't matter then that means it doesn't matter exactly two things could be true
02:50:51.820
at once yeah yeah so we're just assuming both things are true at the same time but if it doesn't
02:50:57.660
matter then who cares i don't get it so that doesn't make any sense like if i said if for instance if my
02:51:05.840
wife came to me and she said honey would you like steak or chicken for dinner and i said oh it doesn't
02:51:11.800
matter and then she brought me the chicken and i said ah you know i really wanted the steak
02:51:16.360
well then obviously it did matter right and when i said it doesn't matter i wasn't being um
02:51:23.160
well let's say honest right i wasn't quite in the frame of honesty there because uh you know it did
02:51:30.960
matter didn't it yeah in that scenario yeah so then thing is is that can you give me a scenario
02:51:39.180
where you say something doesn't matter two hundred dollars if the person i share my body with matters
02:51:45.400
then it should matter how many people the person i share my body with have been within the past
02:51:50.620
so my body count would matter just as much vice versa yeah i wouldn't but i mean wouldn't my wife kind
02:51:57.660
of go and you know maybe in that situation i wouldn't even be being dishonest maybe i just didn't
02:52:01.980
know right maybe i didn't know that it mattered right maybe i maybe that's what it is maybe i wasn't
02:52:06.740
intentionally lying or something like this it just i i just didn't realize that it did actually matter
02:52:11.420
but don't say my wife would be like well what the fuck you just said it didn't matter then why does it
02:52:16.480
matter suddenly i think that she would can you give me a scenario where somebody would say it doesn't
02:52:21.960
matter but then what when you ask him about it it suddenly does matter like that's what i was referring
02:52:29.100
to in the real is if i'm getting to know a man and he tells me like babe i had a whole phase but i'm
02:52:36.760
more sexually disciplined now i'm not going to judge him or look at him sideways and if he finds out my
02:52:43.000
body count and he feels a way about it then okay so then so then let's be kind of being charitable then
02:52:49.860
you're just saying in this situation of you in a personal relationship it doesn't matter
02:52:54.960
but outside of that it does matter or does it just never matter like i'm trying to figure this out
02:53:01.800
i don't want to share my body count number it doesn't mean well it must matter there must be
02:53:08.500
some reason that it matters to you right my privacy matters so that's the part yeah so then so then so
02:53:14.500
then it must matter like what for instance um i have blue eyes it doesn't matter to me that you know
02:53:20.940
that i don't care right it's it's a it doesn't matter at all um that you know that i have blue
02:53:27.080
eyes so that i mean i guess if i was on the phone with somebody they didn't know that i had blue eyes
02:53:33.260
i would be fine saying i have blue eyes because it doesn't matter to me that is a physical character
02:53:39.720
characteristic you could tell so it was a body count that's a physical characteristic it requires
02:53:44.540
how could you tell if i have five bodies versus 50 how can you tell i could at least take you at your
02:53:50.040
word but you don't even want to give at your word right because it matters that much but the it's
02:53:56.400
called the thousand cock stare sometimes you see it in a girl you look in her eyes it's like that's
02:54:03.500
but i mean i can't even okay so guess i can't even disbelieve you because it matters so much to you
02:54:09.940
you won't even share it glazed over look that's really it's just really weird do you guys do you
02:54:15.920
ladies ladies body count doesn't matter and then you go okay what's your body count you're like
02:54:20.280
well i'm not telling you i said baby not ladies baby your body count don't matter yeah well i mean
02:54:27.460
who are you talking to you talking to ladies i'm talking to co-ed but i'm mostly talking to like
02:54:33.440
my wait i got i got the question i got the question for you okay okay go ahead would you
02:54:39.440
date a guy who slept with men previously so he's bi um yeah like a week ago he just got his back blown
02:54:50.440
out son that wouldn't be my preferred candidate because i'm not gonna lie that's why is it because
02:54:57.620
he had sex recently or is it because he had sex recently with with a dude it's not that he
02:55:04.820
had it more recently is that it would like raise an eyebrow because now it's not
02:55:11.780
just getting tapped from she doesn't want to think that she's checking out the same
02:55:18.500
like they're checking out the same man together yeah i see and i have been with the bisexual man
02:55:23.460
so okay and broca what about you like if a guy he's had a history of like sleeping with with dudes
02:55:28.560
would you would that be an issue yes that that feeling that you guys feel that's how we feel
02:55:38.140
about girls who who sleep with dudes what about let's do you care if you're are you in a relationship
02:55:46.280
are you in a relationship i can't discuss my oh okay well if you were so you are sure and she said
02:55:53.680
hey you know before we started dating you know i ate some coochie how do you feel i'd prefer i'd
02:56:01.300
prefer to date a woman who's straight but i think there is a bit of a differential here but uh i would
02:56:05.540
prefer to date um wait what no oh that's andrew's answer yeah i'd prefer to date a straight girl but
02:56:14.680
scissored a chick okay fine whatever you know whatever i'll give you a pass i'll give her a pass i'm a nice
02:56:22.580
guy i'll give her a pass she gets the pass scissored pass what about eating coochie still a pass what
02:56:33.580
so how is so but it's well it's interesting to me i think men are more willing to date
02:56:41.780
bisexual women than women are willing to date bisexual men there is a differential there women
02:56:47.680
are dating bisexual men all the time they just don't know it yeah sure okay true so but i think
02:56:52.940
women so you're saying that a bunch of women are dishonest is that what you're saying there's a bunch
02:56:59.300
of women out there who are dating their men and are not disclosing the fact that they're bisexual
02:57:03.780
is that what no she's saying that a lot of women date men thinking they're straight but they don't know
02:57:10.580
that deep down inside they crave some dick they're bisexual word i do got to move it along we we're
02:57:16.280
going to have to cap the reactions to all the clips to like five minute stops so i'm going to be
02:57:20.960
keeping track of the reactions last clip then i'm opening it up to the rest of the panel we lingered
02:57:25.640
quite a bit on these other topics go ahead nick oh god
02:57:28.280
if someone calls you a hoe it's honestly not a diss because do you know that always is a very beautiful
02:57:37.960
woman that sells her tucci so you know what that means she got deeper pockets than a lot of y'all so
02:57:43.840
if someone's calling you hoe they're saying you're a beautiful girl with a lot of money and it's
02:57:47.900
honestly not that big of a diss yeah you have sexual appeal and yeah a lot of men are going to
02:57:53.000
be mad at it but they're going to find something to be mad at anyways hoe is heaven on earth and if
02:57:58.320
someone calls you a hoe so i will say with this one this was also recapping notes and it was okay it
02:58:05.000
was like a trolling reel back at all the 304 comments i would get like you're just a fucking
02:58:11.920
hoe you're a hoe so i was just making i was making a lighter okay yeah i'm a hoe that means i'm beautiful
02:58:17.120
la la la yeah you were like i was just making fun of it you're reclaiming yeah so you don't so you
02:58:21.840
don't actually think that being a hoe is a good thing uh well about that i mean you don't actually
02:58:30.780
think it's a good thing right because you were just trolling and funning right you was just funning
02:58:35.160
right i feel like being a hoe does come with a lot of negative experiences so it's not the most
02:58:45.620
positive thing okay all right so it's a bad thing i want to say it's completely bad but i want to say
02:58:52.880
it's completely good well i don't know what that means like is would you if a woman said look i can
02:59:00.640
be a hoe or i can not be a hoe which do you advise would you would you be indifferent or would you
02:59:05.940
advise them to not be a hoe i feel like it's situational if they were in a good situation
02:59:12.920
that they were let's say let me just use an example them they're a hoe they have one client
02:59:20.760
they treat them very well it's a more comfortable situation then you have a hoe that has like various
02:59:26.800
clients they all want to do stuff she's not comfortable with she's constantly with different
02:59:32.720
men that's different so it's situational like if a woman feels like like a sugar baby a sugar baby
02:59:39.340
could be a type of hoe i wouldn't say that's completely bad but someone who's
02:59:44.240
having a lot of sexual experiences that they don't like that's going to alter their brain
02:59:52.260
and negatively impact them okay and then the second part of this because i didn't understand
02:59:59.060
any of that but i won't press anymore um you said that that means that they're calling you a beautiful
03:00:03.940
woman uh are you saying that ugly women can't be hoes i didn't say that okay so ugly women can be hoes
03:00:11.540
yeah they can oh okay there are no ugly women andrew yeah so then when you said in that clip uh that
03:00:19.460
means that they're calling you a beautiful woman well they're not really calling you a beautiful woman
03:00:24.020
necessarily right and like i said i was trolling and making fun of something well but not really because
03:00:30.500
when i ask if you're funning about it you're like well not really because i do endorse being a hoe under
03:00:37.780
certain circumstances which are kind of evasive and preferential based and i don't really understand
03:00:43.300
exactly what those conditionals are but just assuming that we grant those conditionals it doesn't sound
03:00:49.460
like you were trolling it sounds like you're saying it is fine to be a hoe if you want to be a hoe
03:00:53.700
that's what it sounds like well i guess you could say there's some truth in every joke so yeah
03:00:59.300
okay all right moving on des i'm gonna bring you in for a moment you described yourself
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i don't know if you still do as a feminist um no i wouldn't say i'm a feminist oh wouldn't say it
03:01:12.980
used to be though yeah okay and you had a tinder date gone wrong you want to tell us about um yeah
03:01:22.180
it was like the one time that i used tinder and um basically i started dating this guy and he was like
03:01:31.940
he was cool like we linked up like 20 minutes away from the crib but that's like beside the point but
03:01:39.140
it ended up being like um he lied about for one he stayed like two minutes from where i actually stayed
03:01:46.500
so we like went out the way to go do that but then he also didn't say he had a baby or a baby mama
03:01:51.460
and um ended up coming out because she dm'd me and then i just brought it all to light and then i
03:01:59.380
stopped um talking to him eventually over that but also i went back on there so this is like the one
03:02:07.780
time i used tinder but like you know the experience in general um i started talking to another guy
03:02:13.540
and mind you i ended up being cool with this this other guy's baby mama because you know she told me
03:02:19.140
you know and we just kind of like became cool well um i was like babysitting for her and stuff because
03:02:25.780
she was like she's going on a date or whatever and like fast forward it turns out that we was both
03:02:33.380
talking to the same guy um like the baby mama me was talking to the same guy aside from her actual
03:02:39.860
like baby daddy um it just got it was just messy like it was it's like something i laugh about now
03:02:47.300
but it was definitely messy at the time she probably still want to fight me i don't know
03:02:52.020
all right so you're no longer a feminist because i think previously you described yourself as a okay
03:02:58.500
wait to lighten the mood real quick to lighten the mood i gotta ask you okay everybody's demanding
03:03:04.500
it in all of these chats can you get right close to the mic and say cash me outside how
03:03:09.620
about that can you do that catch me outside how about that all right thank you i appreciate
03:03:16.580
lighten the mood why does everyone say should we get it from these two girls too yeah come on let's
03:03:21.620
let's get it all in no you're a little street kind of right a little street you know i'll do it
03:03:30.180
if you do it i'll do it how about yeah okay all right you know look it's okay not everybody
03:03:37.780
has it in them not everybody has it in them okay i'm gonna move things to lily actually wait before
03:03:46.660
i come to lily i want to but i gotta wait till she's back okay lily you said you met a guy randomly
03:03:51.780
during spring break in mexico yes i did crazy three day spring break fling yes in sayulita mexico
03:04:00.500
what's that in sayulita yeah that's like where everyone like went for their college spring break
03:04:05.300
and you he wrote a song about you yeah so wow that's beautiful basically we just like we're at
03:04:10.900
a club in sayulita and then my friend was like oh you should invite him to the next bar i was like
03:04:16.660
okay and we were just like dancing together and then we basically just had like a fling for
03:04:21.940
essentially three days that's it it was just three days and then like when we were saying goodbye he's
03:04:27.140
like i feel so connected to you like this like what is happening right now it's like i don't know
03:04:32.900
but i want to go back home because it's like 4 a.m and so we keep texting while like after spring
03:04:39.300
break because he's also from canada he's not from the us and so we keep texting and then he's like oh
03:04:45.380
i also wanted to share something with you and i was like oh okay like i didn't know what to expect
03:04:50.020
and then he sends me this like google drive of a song he wrote about our whole experience
03:04:55.540
in sayulita mexico do you have it should we play it or not is that i think we can just play it
03:05:01.620
i have it on my phone i want it you want it yeah yeah get the phone yeah let's hear it
03:05:07.620
can somebody get what's your phone look like what's your phone it has fruits on the case
03:05:11.380
is it good did you like the song it's a banger yeah it i was like honestly so curious because
03:05:18.260
i feel like it could be such a turnoff if he's a bad singer is it actually good yeah but i couldn't
03:05:24.020
it's kind of hard to understand him so i had to like mumble rapper no it's a mumble rapper he's not
03:05:31.060
a mumble rapper he's not a mumble rapper okay let's hear it get that okay i gotta pull it up i gotta
03:05:35.620
pull it up so it might take me a second okay that's fine while we're waiting on that i want to
03:05:42.100
ask everybody if they've ever had a ross or if they currently or ever had a roster starting with you
03:05:51.380
go ahead uh i talked to like three guys once for one week and by the end of the week everyone
03:06:00.580
i was done just texting and stuff wait and so you said you've been single for
03:06:07.380
three years celibate for two so there's no guys in the picture right now no but i mean you know you're
03:06:13.700
you live in uh well inland empire is that considered la no that's its own county right okay it's like
03:06:20.180
what an hour away from la or it's like 40 minutes oh it's close okay and it's even closer to sea
03:06:26.100
yeah so you're in a pretty major like pretty densely populated area yes yeah uh you're young
03:06:33.380
attractive you've got social media presence i'm sure there's a lot of guys who sliding into the dms
03:06:39.940
maybe they do go do you party like go out to bars and clubs and shit uh we get paid to do hostings
03:06:46.660
so yes we go out how how often would you say you go out to bars and clubs every weekend no definitely not
03:06:54.180
friday saturday uh maybe like once twice a month once twice a month but we travel we just got back
03:06:59.940
from miami you know we're miami okay yeah uh so there's no guys in the picture currently not even
03:07:06.020
the guy you're texting or talking to no okay why is that uh just i don't really have any interest in
03:07:16.020
talking to men kind of it feels like copy and paste a lot of the time copy and paste what do
03:07:24.660
you mean it's almost as if i have to work on myself and um you know i have to become a different
03:07:32.260
type of person and attract a different type of man okay because if it's copy and paste that means i'm
03:07:38.660
just meaning the same type of person a different body do you have a type uh i have a type but
03:07:48.180
i'm not like oh if they don't meet these requirements i want to ask your friend or
03:07:53.140
no you guys are like fake sisters or real like real yes real sisters sisters okay what's her type
03:08:02.100
the best way to describe it is a teddy bear a teddy bear like appearance wise yeah thank you josh uh
03:08:10.820
so like uh dad thought she's into that they have to be um significantly taller they have to have a beard
03:08:22.660
and they could be any race huh they can be what they could be any race really maybe any waist size
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race race oh race yeah so you'll date like white you'll she likes she likes white white middle
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eastern black wait question your boyfriend of eight years uh white guy french and turkish so
03:08:44.740
middle eastern and white olive olive skin a little bit okay right turkish is that a little
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seasoned chicken seasoned chicken okay all right uh okay
03:08:55.860
so there's this man is just partying i've seen him go through cigarettes now he's drinking oh he's
03:09:05.140
he's turning up andrew's lit wait what's wrong with smoking cigarettes and drinking beer there's
03:09:11.860
definitely a lot wrong with uh smoking a cigarette but but the drinking wait don't you guys you endorse
03:09:17.140
hang on you endorse prostitutes you're worried about me smoking i just it's okay to smoke a pole but not a
03:09:24.420
cigarette come on leave let's get it together let's get it together wait but don't you guys
03:09:29.940
work in cannabis yeah cannabis isn't isn't that worse than no no it's not i think it's worse than
03:09:36.820
cigarettes i think it's worse than cigarettes why are you looking i accidentally kicked something in it
03:09:43.940
it was okay okay uh wait wait wait well hang on okay so what's your criticism mean guy smokes and
03:09:51.860
drinks is that the criticism mean mean guy on the screen he smokes and drinks did i say you were mean
03:09:57.700
what's that did i say you were mean i don't know you're giving me a little look like you think i'm
03:10:02.260
mean you give me that i think you're a mean guy look it's giving her the mean yeah no i never said that
03:10:09.220
okay uh do you have you ever had a roster a roster rostered like talking to bare like bare minimum
03:10:18.500
talking to multiple guys at the same time no never never always one at a time okay what about you
03:10:24.980
yes had the roster yes i i feel like you got riz you got that sleeper riz though where people like
03:10:32.500
sleeper is is like they don't think you got riz but you got riz okay i can see that yeah you can
03:10:38.820
underestimate me you that's right that's what happens they underestimate you next thing you
03:10:42.660
know boom right next thing you know they're in love they're in love um so you had a roster how
03:10:47.220
many what how big was the roster um i can't recall do you know maybe like five five was it more than
03:10:55.460
was it more than five no okay ever had a roster yes yeah how big how big i can't even remember it was
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like 20 no no no no no no no it's okay if it's big and definitely these are just like talking to
03:11:08.900
like my roster is never like you know um i would say like seven seven how many like smashing though
03:11:15.940
one just one always one but it's like i always entertain something my girl liz what's up
03:11:21.220
yes i did you had the roster yes how big was the roster um typically about three or four
03:11:27.140
three or four yeah and that's like hooking up with yes i don't just talk
03:11:31.700
if you're talking you're yeah you're having sexual impulse yep i was trying to find something
03:11:38.260
more clever to say but uh okay so the most at one time was four four at the same time
03:11:44.580
well not like they're all there together no no no but like in a like a fortnight in a fortnight
03:11:51.860
yeah 14 days how much how much in 14 oh geez like also i don't know like one a week so two oh only two
03:11:59.460
two you know fortnight yeah fortnight yeah i had to work i didn't have time every night
03:12:04.980
to do stuff you never done two in the day no oh wait a minute uh oh you know what yes i did i did i
03:12:11.700
forgot two in a day i'm sorry it's okay it's not that i've heard more than that i heard six in a day
03:12:17.700
once so you that's rookie numbers right there you gotta pump that up we heard about uh what was it one
03:12:25.460
who did hundreds and hundreds in like a week we've heard some crazy she's australian i think yeah
03:12:33.380
they're those i don't know what's going on in australia it was the uh the kangaroo cocksucker right
03:12:41.140
that is a crime andrew it is a crime okay what about you ever had a roster um like once when i was
03:12:49.540
going through my little hinge phase but it was also like destiny yeah yeah the dating app yeah
03:12:54.820
the dating app um like destiny it was like i was talking to multiple people but it wasn't like i
03:12:59.460
was sleeping with multiple people how big was your roster like four or five five okay yeah what about
03:13:05.140
you no what about your friend that was too shy to be on the show does she have she's got riz right
03:13:10.020
she's got game does she does she does she got but she's not a slut so yeah well that's i wasn't saying
03:13:14.900
that i think you have a roster no just asking if she does she have a roster right now no she got
03:13:21.460
a boyfriend i don't know oh boy i don't know see you don't want to say because she's got a roster
03:13:30.900
no you don't want to throw her under the bus she's not like that she's not seeing a guy right
03:13:34.980
she's respectable she's not seeing a she's she's not there's no carnal knowledge of a man currently
03:13:40.020
i don't know isn't this like your home girl yeah it is you guys don't talk about this you're
03:13:45.540
probably on the drive she pleads the fifth okay that's right i respect the silence no i haven't
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had a roster okay all right uh where were we we're getting into the notes oh i'm gonna bring it over
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to you now so our good friend kelsey oh lily song oh yeah let's play the song okay play the song
03:14:03.620
then we get to kelsey do i just like hold my phone yeah hold it up to the mic just like that just
03:14:08.340
should i turn the volume all the way up uh we can adjust it but yeah it should be fun okay
03:14:14.180
don't show the don't show the screen yeah or the screen to the camera
03:14:23.860
is that a ukulele i have no idea i have no idea
03:15:00.580
i've heard enough i've heard enough you know what he reminds me of he kind of has mac de
03:15:17.040
marco's voice get this man a record deal get him a fucking record deal he's probably gonna
03:15:22.100
get a record deal that's so sweet he made a song that is very sweet beautiful now here's the crazy
03:15:26.820
shit though what if he that's he does that same shit to all the chicks he's talking to oh babe i
03:15:35.260
like you so much let me just he could be doing that someone made a verse for me in a song but he
03:15:45.220
talks about a lot of other girls so it's like but i know which one's specifically mine is it drake
03:15:49.020
is it drake that made it yeah i wish you would you would what drake's your i could set you up if
03:15:59.160
you're done drake's my man i got connects in canada so okay although isn't he in trouble
03:16:05.360
kind of i don't know anyways all right drake is her type that's my man to a t drake is your type
03:16:11.580
that's my man yeah like he could just be doing anything she's like oh my god yes rappers is your
03:16:17.720
type okay that man is my man okay all right did you see his that leak video yes i have it uh
03:16:26.740
saved in my phone do you watch it before you go to bed every night i have like 33 000 photos and
03:16:33.020
videos in my phone so i know exactly where it is yeah just right before bed yes you just watch him
03:16:39.740
with his meat can yeah yeah like when i'm when i'm scrolling through my thing if i come by i always
03:16:45.320
stop by it you know good times good times all right we're getting to kelsey yes all right kelsey
03:16:54.920
oh killer of cereal donated 200 for everyone would you rather date a person of the sex you're not
03:17:03.420
interested in or date your perfect person but they have three of everything arms legs
03:17:09.720
etc etc a little spider babe you have three of everything wait three would you rather date a
03:17:17.240
person of the sex you're not interested in of but they have three of everything arms legs
03:17:24.060
i'd yeah i'd still date the woman i wouldn't date the man because the man
03:17:32.480
has kind of three things i don't know okay that was terrible ladies here just show of hands would you
03:17:44.220
rather like man with would you rather date a man with three of all appendages or a woman or a chick
03:17:51.960
who's normal okay i think the answer is man okay kelsey getting to your notes you said your first
03:17:59.320
boyfriend was at 23 24 is that correct yeah and you lost your virginity to him is that at 23 i think is
03:18:07.580
what you said okay uh but he turned out to have a lot of those red pill ideologies how long did you
03:18:14.740
date him for uh four months four months um and he apparently he was pretty out there pretty crazy
03:18:22.640
a little crazy okay you said in terms of his views on body count pair bonding and he also racist too
03:18:29.940
a little racist yeah that came up eventually he didn't like white people he said he would rather
03:18:36.080
have his girlfriend wait wait uh hold on let me before you say it he would just uh say it without
03:18:44.060
saying the race part he would rather what have his girlfriend cheat on him with the dog
03:18:50.260
then okay i yeah okay was he a white guy mixed he was what he was mixed he was mixed half white half
03:18:59.520
filipino wait i'm sorry damn that's crazy he said he rather his one
03:19:04.580
no but can i say the b can she insinuate it the the b word oh all right well
03:19:15.600
damn that's crazy okay good times um it's okay views on body count pair bonding you ended up with
03:19:25.000
a restraining order he held you hostage for 24 hours yes broke into your emails tried to prove
03:19:32.940
you're cheating on him yeah okay damn that's crazy um yeah what so really quickly was what were his
03:19:40.020
views on body count and pair bonding um that it's okay for a man to sleep with a bunch of chicks
03:19:46.620
and but not for a woman okay so like the andrew tate kind of stuff sure okay all right and uh
03:19:54.200
so kind of as a restraining order is it still active no anyways moving on yeah so uh so okay
03:20:06.220
you sent a video then you sent a transcript kind of of the video yeah i could read it
03:20:14.700
as you sent it to me or i could just have you restate your positions oh i could try to restate
03:20:20.880
it i might need a drink for this conversation um and there's a lot here yeah i just kind of rolled
03:20:26.940
out of bed and wrote it um maybe it's better to read it okay so there's a couple different versions
03:20:35.600
of it but you there's a couple and so well you sent it like you sent two different videos then
03:20:41.780
yeah you sent them anyways yeah here you fill in if if there's anything i leave blank you fill it in
03:20:48.440
so you said you had a controversial opinion culturally socially men and women are conditioned to be
03:20:53.620
shaped in different ways women are more often to be victimized men more often to be victimizers
03:20:59.760
abusers abusers and men are more likely to see their behavior as normal and women are not
03:21:05.940
or um not putting them at risk hold on i wrote that down wrong one sec
03:21:13.680
i'm just sorry one sec guys i'm trying to get there's like it was sent to me in like millions of
03:21:23.020
different ways um i mean do you want to just articulate your position
03:21:32.080
because it is your position not mine so yeah i know but i'm just having uh trouble articulating
03:21:39.480
myself right now but in general yeah i think i fall under the opinion that we are kind of conditioned
03:21:46.180
by a variety of forces throughout our life and i think that it i mean in any society there's things
03:21:51.600
that are normalized and we're blind to those things because this is a society that we're
03:21:57.260
calibrated to and you wouldn't really otherwise think any differently unless you can take a step
03:22:01.220
back and try to look at them from a different perspective is there any chance we can get you
03:22:06.760
to move a little closer to your mic sorry is that better yeah thank you yeah yeah it's way better
03:22:11.380
do you have anything that you would like to address specifically or that where you would like
03:22:17.500
me to expand on okay so i guess this is from the text you said uh i think hold on i'm just reading
03:22:28.080
in here uh you said for men i think they're shaped into ways that put them into the role of the abuser
03:22:35.840
um and so i'm a little confused by that um you said you said i think men are incentivized to view
03:22:46.180
behaviors that are damaging and even cruel towards women as normal i think this is partially accomplished
03:22:53.800
through exploiting natural biological features of males specifically but also humans generally men are
03:22:59.400
conditioned to tie their self-worth and to learn to value themselves based on the quality and quantity
03:23:04.640
of women and sex they're able to obtain combine this with hyper sexualization
03:23:09.320
of men by exploiting corrupting their child brains through adult content exposure typically at a young
03:23:18.640
age i'm not going to get into that but um it makes it easy and effortless for a lot of men to
03:23:24.440
objectify and sexualize women without restraint
03:23:27.600
do you just disagree with that you don't think that it's very common in our society for men to
03:23:36.460
i'm just reading what you're saying i'm asking if you do disagree with it i well i disagree that
03:23:43.420
men are groomed into being abusers i think abusers was a strong word and i shouldn't have said that
03:23:48.620
well you used it multiple times by abuse i would i'm defining it as the misuse or improper
03:23:55.760
treatment of women and sex okay um well i mean i can just continue reading but you could just offer
03:24:08.560
up what your actual position is so i think that men a lot of like our society is that it ties a man's
03:24:16.800
self-worth to women in terms of you're very close to me sorry i think that a lot of men have their
03:24:25.860
self-worth tied to sex and women and the quality and quantity that they can obtain and i think that
03:24:31.940
causes people to behave in irrational ways uh but it would seem it would seem to me and you can correct
03:24:39.740
me if i'm wrong um i do get kind of a strong vibe based on and this is a vibe check right but i do get
03:24:46.660
kind of a vibe based on what you've said earlier in the conversation that you might be a little bit
03:24:52.020
more on the leftist progressive side would that be kind of accurate to say yeah yeah okay um so i'm
03:24:59.960
guessing that you believe in some kind of evolutionary model yes yeah so i mean if that's the case then
03:25:08.200
wouldn't status and uh which is related to reproduction um be a thing which would be very
03:25:15.420
evolutionarily advantageous yeah well then why wouldn't society conduct itself around that
03:25:22.120
i think status is a normal thing to desire but i do think that it is kind of exploited in our society
03:25:31.720
what do you mean where i think there's a lot of indicators when you're growing up that tell you
03:25:37.800
as a man that if you don't have a woman in your life or if you aren't able to sleep with a bunch of
03:25:42.720
women that you're not a high value man yeah but from an evolutionary standpoint reproduction is the
03:25:49.860
primary edict right yeah so then the man who reproduces the most would have the most status
03:25:56.080
that kind of makes the most sense doesn't it sure so i mean it so then it seems that if reproduction
03:26:03.460
is the primary edict and and having sex with lots of women we could assume leads to lots of
03:26:08.980
reproduction i why wouldn't i still understand why society wouldn't kind of foment or foment itself
03:26:14.660
around that right i think that it makes sense that it would form itself around that but i i'm i think
03:26:19.640
it's also over emphasized in a way that well i mean we have a we have a birth rate crisis right
03:26:26.180
like shouldn't shouldn't we be having more babies not less babies so i mean wouldn't wouldn't
03:26:31.260
reproduction of the primary edict matter here like wouldn't that matter a lot but like all biological
03:26:38.600
all biological entities their ultimate purpose is to reproduce right so if that's the case and man
03:26:49.300
wants to reproduce a lot which is what he was evolved to do assigning status to that seems like it makes
03:26:56.340
a lot of sense i think it makes sense but i think it also can lead to people doing questionable things
03:27:04.020
in order in the pursuit of that status yeah sure but i mean anything you would assign status to could
03:27:09.460
be the case right if like anything literally anything having two pennies in your pocket and that is somehow
03:27:15.140
a status marker for for humanity would still lead to all sorts of different outlier problems right
03:27:22.660
sure yeah so i mean i don't really understand why this is a why this is a big problem it seems like
03:27:29.140
it's evolutionarily advantageous i think the idea is reinforced that you don't have value unless you have
03:27:35.220
beautiful women in your life or if you're unable to have sex with many women yeah right but i mean if
03:27:41.220
you're not adhering to the primary edict wouldn't you have less value the point is to reproduce right
03:27:47.060
what if you're doing it and you're not reproducing yeah so i mean that does bring up a whole different
03:27:52.420
can of worms which is what happens when you allow a society to fornicate without reproduction it seems
03:28:00.340
to lead to terrible outcomes i completely agree with that but uh but the question still remains i don't
03:28:07.060
really understand how you would organize a society if reproduction is the goal uh without assigning
03:28:13.700
status to those who reproduce i don't i don't really even know how you could do that
03:28:21.940
i think in some ways that by tying like over stressing or emphasizing this like how we tie our
03:28:28.980
self-worth or value ourselves based upon sex and women is kind of what contributes to the
03:28:34.420
problems that we're having between men and women okay because the men are doing everything to try
03:28:41.140
to access sex or like have sex with as many women as they can and using women and betraying women
03:28:46.980
then it's going to leave a lot of women in a position where they're i mean aren't they evolved
03:28:50.740
to do just that aren't they evolved to spread their seed far and wide to as many women as possible
03:28:56.660
isn't that hugely advantageous to humanity what's hugely advantageous is for two parents to raise
03:29:02.180
their child together that is the most likely well i mean that's going to require reproduction
03:29:07.380
and status so so like let me give you an example what i mean let's say a man has a family has a
03:29:13.460
wife and he has four children and that man acquires more status in society because he has a wife and
03:29:19.380
four children and we adhere to that and we say oh man that's that's a some kind of status indicator
03:29:26.020
do you think that men would be more likely or less likely to do that
03:29:28.660
i think men would be more likely to pursue that yeah exactly i agree i think that men would be
03:29:35.300
far more likely to pursue that so then why wouldn't we instead of the progressive mantra
03:29:40.340
push society towards that family unit and give it status like that makes no sense to me
03:29:49.860
i think right now we live in a society where people are valuing themselves on materialistic
03:29:54.020
possession i totally agree with you on that and i think that includes turning women into
03:29:59.300
materialistic possession i completely agree with that too but i think that that's not because of
03:30:04.420
status i would say it's because the opposite of that right so if you had higher status if you didn't
03:30:09.860
value materialism wouldn't less people value it if you had say that again so if you had a higher
03:30:17.220
status in society by not valuing materialism wouldn't less people value it yeah yeah so i mean it seems
03:30:24.740
like we should instead of saying we should get away from you know status seems like status isn't really
03:30:31.700
the problem but rather what we're valuing that gives a person this status in society yeah i think
03:30:36.980
i would i would definitely agree with that yeah so it sounds like a nuclear family is the thing that
03:30:41.460
has the most or should have the most status right yeah i would agree with that but i think the point
03:30:45.860
i'm trying to the thing i'm trying to point out is that in our society that is that's not what we
03:30:49.700
value we value material possession and money and yeah but that's because of feminism right i would
03:30:56.020
disagree well i don't understand are feminists the ones who are out there who value the nuclear family
03:31:02.340
because last i checked they were doing everything they can to dismantle it i don't i don't i don't
03:31:05.940
know what all feminists believe okay well are you a feminist i mean i've never considered myself one
03:31:12.660
but i i probably would if you sat me down yeah okay so then feminism is a rejection of patriarchy
03:31:19.940
that's that's what it is at its core right sure but i'm getting married and going to and having
03:31:25.220
children so yeah i know but do you reject patriarchy you can be feminist and still value
03:31:30.420
a family unit loyalty monogamy and raising children and yeah you can be a feminist and value all of those
03:31:36.660
things i agree but you would you feminism is a rejection of patriarchal systems
03:31:44.340
they reject patriarchals like for you and your husband let's give an example do you want you and
03:31:48.820
your husband to be equals yes okay well that's feminism so that's not that's not an embrace of
03:31:56.260
a patriarchal system you're not saying i want my husband to be the head of the household i want to
03:32:00.340
be equal with my husband but we live in a patriarchy i'm sorry you're saying that the problems we're
03:32:08.420
having are due to feminism and i i don't understand how you're making that connection when we live in a
03:32:11.940
patriarchy do you think that the patriarchy is stronger or weaker than it was a hundred years ago
03:32:21.860
probably just as strong really yeah so you think that women going into the workforce and things like
03:32:28.900
this enabled the patriarchy i think if the page you think a hundred years ago we had as many female
03:32:35.460
leaders we had as many females who were in charge of different systems who were ceos who were in
03:32:40.020
charge of corporate you really believe that no but i mean isn't the point of patriarchy that it's
03:32:44.340
the people at the very top that are controlling everything and the people at the very top are
03:32:47.700
like predominantly men well no it's scalable like it's scalable right so you can have the people at
03:32:52.740
the very top but it goes all the way down to the family the family unit with the man being held
03:32:57.700
into the charge of the family unit and not the woman so the responsibility tends to fall on the
03:33:02.500
man right that's why i don't think it didn't have bank accounts they didn't have credit lines things
03:33:06.660
like that hey andrew our oh i think our internet's back sorry our internet crapped out there for a
03:33:11.700
couple seconds andrew you getting us it's still yeah i got you it's looks like it's getting sorry guys
03:33:20.100
i don't know what no no don't don't oh it's kind of crapping out andrew you still got us i still got
03:33:27.060
you i don't know sorry something's full yeah the uh the quality went way down yeah hold on we're we're just
03:33:36.340
give us just one sec here uh while we're waiting on that just going around the table
03:33:45.940
do you consider yourself a feminist starting with you i would say humanist humanist okay no
03:33:53.620
into the mics guys you can't wave you gotta speak no no no no no we're covered we're covered feminist okay
03:34:03.940
uh wow we're still get our internet's pretty spotty here uh is it going to recover it keeps
03:34:11.940
dropping and going back and forth oh now it's doing really well it's gone super
03:34:19.860
insane hold on but you can still hear us andrew
03:34:22.900
it's peculiar we're gonna have to recall him yeah can you pull up the chat is the chat still
03:34:40.900
the matriarchy is attacking us the may it's the matrix no i don't know we can't hear andrew though brian can
03:34:47.700
you hear me i can hear you yeah i just had myself muted that's all oh okay but yeah i haven't
03:34:52.740
lost you guys at all and the the spottiness of the internet has it's greatly increased so i think
03:34:58.420
we're good no i think it it looks green i'm sorry guys i don't know we lost a lot of viewers there
03:35:03.060
unfortunately but hey it is what it is um all right we're back okay so again i might have to call
03:35:11.060
andrew because i'm probably gonna have to read those shooting why what's wrong with uh
03:35:14.740
okay that's fine do you want to recall them now and then i'll uh yeah oh let's no it works we're
03:35:23.620
good okay it's fine yeah don't don't do it unless we have to well let me just go back to i guess your
03:35:28.740
original notes here so i mean you said that you think men are kind of on the opposite side where
03:35:34.900
men are are encouraged to be more sexually deviant or just abusive towards women and you think it creates
03:35:41.540
a weird dynamic so met you're saying men are more important or kind of encouraged to be more
03:35:48.660
sexually deviant or just abusive towards women do you think men or women are more sexually deviant
03:35:55.540
men are women yeah i think men men yeah you know the book 50 shades of gray yeah yeah who
03:36:04.260
predominantly who bought those books one of the best-selling books of all time women women yeah the
03:36:11.300
book where he's in a bdsm dynamic with her and i think my interpretation of that i've never read
03:36:19.700
the book he's a sadist i think my interpretation of that is is perhaps women desiring a man whose
03:36:25.700
soul attention is on her and not on various other women and what about the bdsm dynamic where he's a
03:36:31.860
sadist i don't know that's not part of it i don't know when you uh when you say deviant uh sexually
03:36:40.020
deviant what do you mean just uh partners or uh preferences or kind of kind of unpack that a
03:36:46.980
little bit for us i think i'm just getting at the tendency of men to um objectify women and sexualize
03:36:54.180
women do you think women sexualize women women sexualize themselves yeah so if there wasn't such
03:37:02.500
a predominance of women uh showing themselves on the internet and all of this wouldn't the sexual
03:37:09.620
deviance of men i think it's be also down because they're not being flooded with imagery and
03:37:15.940
um just vulgarity from women yeah i think it would be good if all women would stop doing porn um but
03:37:24.020
i don't think that women are creating the demand for it and i think they're creating a supply right
03:37:32.420
i'll give you i want to give you an anecdote so i'm not inclined to choke women the amount of
03:37:39.140
women who have requested that i choke them is a lot it occurs to me that seems like it's actually the
03:37:50.100
women who are a bit more sexually deviant than men are i've heard from many women that they have gone on
03:37:58.260
dates and had sex with a man for the first time and the man puts his hand on her neck without even
03:38:04.900
asking about it okay i'm saying the opposite is true i mean that's been your experience you've had
03:38:11.860
women that have asked you to do that but then there's also been plenty of men that have just
03:38:14.980
gone and sure that's probably the same thing yeah probably both okay i'm not saying like the problems
03:38:20.740
in society are more men men's fault than women's fault i'm saying i think that we are kind of
03:38:26.740
put into this behavior yeah i think i'm i think i'm kind of willing to engage with this i think where
03:38:31.140
you're i understand where you're going here uh that men when you say that men sexualize women more
03:38:36.740
than women sexualize men you mean that men when they categorize women we're looking at things like
03:38:41.620
a stead what that are aesthetically pleasing to us right so almost every woman we meet uh maybe in the
03:38:47.540
back of our head we think i do her right or something like that something like more akin to that is
03:38:54.100
that what you're saying not necessarily i mean i think that's probably part of it i think there are a lot of
03:39:00.580
men that think that it's just completely normal to immediately start fantasizing about a woman
03:39:05.300
that they find attractive rather than just having well i don't know i don't even know if they're
03:39:09.620
fantasizing but maybe they just have like a knee-jerk reaction or that just pops into their head right
03:39:15.380
or something that's fine but i think a lot of people think it's okay to indulge in that yeah yeah i
03:39:20.660
would agree but the thing is is again wouldn't this be evolutionarily advantageous for men to want to
03:39:26.900
have sex with lots of women and so they judge them based on their physical appearance and the beauty
03:39:31.700
standards that they have tend to coincide with how healthy they would be for offspring right
03:39:37.060
sure like i think i i agree that these things have a natural basis but i think that they are
03:39:42.660
like extenuated or exacerbated by society and yeah but the question is when you're talking about this
03:39:49.620
exacerbation it seems that the exacerbation has gone the opposite way of reproduction which is very strange
03:39:55.780
to me so you would think that if men were out there being sexual deviants and just having sex with
03:40:01.300
tons of women there'd be a lot more kids but there's not
03:40:06.820
yeah yeah well my question is why do you think that there isn't
03:40:11.700
because women are in birth control yeah and who pushed birth control
03:40:15.940
probably feminist from what era i don't know oh well that would be the say that would be the
03:40:25.220
sexual revolution so the thing that you're upset about which is the promiscuity issue that was brought
03:40:30.820
to you by women brought to you by women and the sexual revolution of hey uh all this chastity stuff
03:40:39.220
well that's that's all bad women should be able to bang as many dudes as they want this is a good thing
03:40:44.420
and that now they can because of birth control right that was part of the freeing mechanism
03:40:52.100
so just just pointing that out i think male promiscuity was also more accepted
03:40:56.980
back in the day as well and just throughout history no it well it really wasn't do you
03:41:01.380
want to know why why it wasn't because if you don't have birth control what is the natural outcome of
03:41:07.220
sexual intercourse baby yeah babies and so if men weren't taking care of their babies there was
03:41:13.460
also a natural outcome as well there was an enforcement mechanism the woman's family would
03:41:18.100
do things like you know beat the out of him uh they would have what were called shotgun weddings
03:41:23.300
there was all sorts of different things that would happen but what there was an enforcement mechanism
03:41:27.380
which basically said if you make offspring you're going to have to take care of the offspring you're
03:41:30.420
going to take care of the woman that you had the offspring with those were natural mechanisms in
03:41:34.100
society i don't think like mistresses or brothels were entirely uncommon back then they're not entirely
03:41:41.140
uncommon now i'm very not uncommon now but yeah very not uncommon now but that's my point right
03:41:48.100
is that once you let the genie out of the bottle with a sexual revolution thing and then you have
03:41:53.540
the mechanism of birth control so that there's no effect of the sexual intercourse anymore it's just
03:41:58.740
pure pleasure and hedonism like what the hell do you think is going to happen of course this is exactly
03:42:03.300
what's going to happen what else could there be i don't you can have all the fun with none of the
03:42:08.260
responsibility like what did you think would happen to society i don't think the attitudes
03:42:12.900
that men are more able to step out on their wives are able to sleep around has is something that's
03:42:18.820
new yeah but so what like i mean monogamy is brought to you by christianity right monogamy is
03:42:26.020
brought to you by religion it's a religious enforcement mechanism so there's no more left behind
03:42:30.260
men that used to be a big problem i don't think necessarily religious enforcement mechanism i think
03:42:33.540
a lot of monogamy is also just evolutionarily advantageous well hyperomy would be well then
03:42:39.460
well okay but then religion would be evolutionarily advantageous that's the point yeah yes it's brought
03:42:45.860
to you by religion and religion would be evolutionarily advantageous so if we're going to deduce this we
03:42:51.380
can figure this out right we can say okay so we evolved to be religious because religious people
03:42:56.740
go for monogamy that's why you would evolve that way right i mean not all religions are like that
03:43:02.420
though yeah but but hang on the most predominant ones the most predominant religions on planet earth
03:43:08.500
in this case christianity enforces monogamy is is it isn't yes i thought islam was the most
03:43:14.340
predominant well you're wrong the number one is christianity number one i didn't know that
03:43:19.380
here let's bring it back to you said that you think men are encouraged to be abusive towards women
03:43:28.100
what do you mean by abuse abusive i again i think that was a poor choice of words i meant i mean
03:43:34.020
already defined it it's the improper use and mistreatment of women okay um
03:43:41.940
so they're not encouraged to be abusive towards women i think they're encouraged to
03:43:49.380
use and lie and manipulate and do what they can to get sex from women are women encouraged to do
03:43:55.460
the same in order to extract resources yeah i would say so okay i guess you as long as you don't have
03:44:04.740
do you think a lot of men can do what you're describing yeah you think like majority of men
03:44:10.980
have the capacity to be like sexual deviants and be able to sleep with many women i think
03:44:19.860
i mean i don't know the exact statistics but i think the vast majority of men
03:44:23.220
watch pornography but that doesn't mean that they're being abusive towards women no not necessarily
03:44:28.900
but i think they're engaging in an activity that requires you to objectify women and it requires
03:44:34.420
you to overlook how women end up in that position of being porn stars in the first place
03:44:45.140
don't like i think even dating apps kind of show that most men don't have the capacity to
03:44:52.340
uh meet even meet up with a bunch of women so women are able to choose and they're choosing this
03:44:59.460
only like a select few yeah i would say sorry i would say probably the majority of the damage is probably done by a
03:45:05.140
minority of men not like a majority of the damage be done by majority women because they're the ones
03:45:13.540
who actually have the capacity to be more promiscuous to be more manipulative because they have more
03:45:19.300
opportunity no i don't see how why if they have more sexual selection how would they not be more
03:45:28.180
prone to being more manipulative because they have more capacity i think when you have less
03:45:32.500
selection that is when you have to go and resort to things like manipulation and lying and coercion and
03:45:37.220
pushing boundaries but if you're not even that top tier person like uh what we what women would
03:45:42.500
consider attractive you don't even have the opportunity to do that unless you're talking
03:45:46.740
about something that's uh forceful which that's statistics yeah i'm not majority of men are like
03:45:52.020
that i'm not saying that majority of men are like that i think that men are more likely to be put into
03:45:57.780
that position and i'm trying to explain away the perceptions like why do women have this perception of
03:46:03.700
men as being users or abusers or like why do women have this fear of men i'm not saying it's the
03:46:10.500
responsibility of all men but i'm saying that there's women have had this they're they're drawing
03:46:15.300
from their own personal experience you don't think they're drawing from maybe cultural uh pressure for
03:46:21.220
like when andrew was saying feminism kind of brought this feminism already positions a woman's
03:46:26.660
worldview that they are oppressed therefore there has to be an oppressor right i think i mean i think
03:46:32.580
that could definitely add to to it where it's like it it feels a lot worse when you go through
03:46:37.060
something um and you're or maybe you make a mistake on your own and um you are looking for an out a way
03:46:43.620
to remove the blame from yourself yeah i think you can so you could complete that maybe your personal
03:46:49.140
anecdotal experience is reflective of things that are happening more generally say that again you're
03:46:53.700
saying that something that anecdotally might happen to you you're now extrapolating and saying that this
03:46:59.220
could happen more generally um i don't i don't think that's what i well that's what i'm trying
03:47:05.060
to figure out because feminism is telling you you're oppressed you're a woman so who would
03:47:10.900
be oppressing you if you're a woman other women or men i think the feminist argument would be
03:47:17.140
desi mora donated two hundred dollars words have meaning unless it contradicts my position then it
03:47:23.860
means two things at once where it is convenient for me lol whatever andrew's mental endurance is insane
03:47:32.340
thanks for all you do uh thank you zesi mora appreciate it if i can just move things along here a
03:47:39.620
little bit but uh so you said that there's a culture for men by men about how they should treat
03:47:46.020
women i'm not gonna i don't want to linger on this because it gets into like the essay stuff but
03:47:50.980
you did write it down so i'll touch on it briefly but i'll we'll only give it five ten minutes
03:47:55.780
and so you said you think so this is what you said so i think a lot of men might find themselves
03:48:00.740
in situations where they're alone with a woman who maybe is drunk maybe not whatever and they
03:48:06.020
aren't aware of the ways that she's been conditioned to be more passive but also this biologically
03:48:11.780
uh this biological prerogative for self-defense where there's a natural inherent dynamic between
03:48:18.900
men and women you said it's women i think from a physiological perspective you can't deny that a
03:48:24.500
man is stronger and you're gonna sense that if you're alone in a room with a man you're gonna be
03:48:28.820
more agreeable and then also probably more likely conditioned societally to be more agreeable to find
03:48:34.900
yourself to not press your boundaries as much as you should because you assume that men are going to react
03:48:40.740
violently if you do you assume that from a biological perspective you assume that from a biological
03:48:46.740
perspective but also you assume that because you're conditioned to believe that and then men are
03:48:52.100
probably not even thinking about that i'm just a little confused are you saying that women who end up
03:48:59.460
alone in a room with a man are in all instances are essayed i'm confused no that's not what i'm saying
03:49:08.900
well you're saying like just by virtue of being in that situation that what i'm you wrote it these
03:49:16.260
are your words i think what i'm trying to convey is that when you are in alone or when you're alone
03:49:20.340
in a room with somebody and there's a like inherent power dynamic what's the power what would the power
03:49:25.540
dynamic be that he's a man and you're a woman so just simply by virtue of the being a man okay that's
03:49:33.060
the power dynamic don't you think that there's like no go ahead just finish your finish your point
03:49:36.660
god no finish your argument god i was saying that if you are a woman alone in a room with a man there's
03:49:44.180
an inherent power dynamic and that i think there would be some sort of evolutionary adaptation where
03:49:50.340
you would maybe be more submissive so you're saying if a woman finds herself alone assuming she's
03:50:03.380
attracted to the man and has agreed to be in the room alone with him right how did they get there
03:50:09.220
it doesn't have to be in that situation i mean so they're just what's the scenario that you're envisioning
03:50:15.540
then we'll just okay fine we'll go with yours well i'm just like a suit like i i don't know i'm just
03:50:25.220
a little confused here so you're saying that like if a woman has consensual like consents to sex it's
03:50:32.260
not actually consent is that what you're arguing i'm just confused
03:50:35.700
i guess in a way that that it's kind of what i was getting at but i think that there can be
03:50:48.740
situations where there's coercion and there's boundary pushing and there's soft nodes that
03:50:54.420
aren't really taken seriously and like maybe you're being playful but you're also saying no
03:50:58.500
you're not trying to upset the person that you're with okay i'm just i don't know isn't coercion isn't
03:51:14.340
definitionally i guess in this instance it's like implied threat from the due to the power dynamic
03:51:21.700
implication of threat but isn't that just based on feeling sorry like it isn't that just based on
03:51:29.700
feeling not necessarily the fact of the matter yeah but don't you think that there could be an
03:51:34.260
evolutionary adaptation for that where it's it's better to be agreeable in a situation like that
03:51:40.820
rather than to be combative no if you are actually in a threat a threatening situation
03:51:48.340
no you have fight or flight right and you don't think that it might be better for a woman to
03:51:57.700
she may not i mean there could be there could be some circumstances but when you're talking about
03:52:02.180
coercion in this sense that wouldn't make any sense right the there's no implication even of threat
03:52:07.620
you're just talking about a feeling that you have wouldn't that be more societally informed than
03:52:11.940
anything like for instance if if women were running around telling you that 50 of men are predatory
03:52:19.140
wouldn't that have an impact on whether or not you had a feeling that a man
03:52:22.900
was being coercive towards you because society's telling you that men are a bunch of predators
03:52:27.860
50 for instance yeah i think that would definitely influence how you feel in that moment yeah i think
03:52:34.100
i think it would you know what i mean so it's like i think that that might be uh if we're using your
03:52:40.900
the way that you're kind of viewing coercion that seems like it's far more coercive
03:52:45.140
um you know than uh than the alternative of a man just i i don't know what giving you social cues
03:52:52.740
for sex i don't you know i don't like i don't know is that what we're talking about here just kind
03:52:57.620
of social cues yes yeah so i mean if that's what we're talking then it seems like the social
03:53:04.340
implication here is that women who believe that and and spread around that 50 of men are hyper
03:53:09.940
predatory would be would be far more of an influence on this um socially than any kind of
03:53:16.420
fight or flight response unless you know because i mean that's influencing the social cue you don't
03:53:21.380
think that a power dynamic can also influence that though just knowing that someone's stronger than
03:53:25.460
you well i mean men are around men who are stronger than them all the time so they don't seem to and
03:53:31.300
they don't they don't seem to uh kind of move into the idea that um as far as coercion goes that that
03:53:39.700
any type of social interaction is going to be overtly threatening to them even though they're around
03:53:44.980
people who are stronger than them constantly so like i don't know why women necessarily get this
03:53:49.700
past there seems to be that when we're talking about social cues here that the influence of women
03:53:55.220
um often like with this idea that men are predatory when they're really not i mean they're just really
03:54:00.660
not statistically that's not based in fact at all um it's true that there's more men who are predators
03:54:06.980
in the way that you're talking about it than women but who cares it's not very many of them
03:54:11.940
right it's still not this vast amount it seems like that is an influencer more than anything else
03:54:17.380
wait so are you arguing that women hang on hang on do you mind if she just answers that real quick
03:54:25.700
or answers to that i don't have anything to say to that you think you kind of agree that that's true
03:54:32.340
she doesn't have anything to say to it so do you agree or
03:54:38.100
no okay okay what do you disagree with can you ask me your question you want me to ask you a question
03:54:46.420
yes what you were going to say you don't want to answer anything killer of cereal donated two
03:54:52.660
hundred dollars it's not the cocaine bears we have to worry about anymore it's the cocaine
03:54:58.820
gators in florida now ladies would you rather run into a man or a 10-foot alligator while walking through the marsh
03:55:20.900
hands up for 10-foot alligator okay there's your answer i'm just i'm confused okay because you said
03:55:27.700
that that women are conditioned to be more passive and you're but you're lining that into what i think is
03:55:35.300
you're saying that women are getting essayed because they're more passive and men are physically
03:55:44.420
stronger that creates a power dynamic and so um by virtue of men being physically stronger even if a
03:55:54.900
woman consents simply by virtue of the man being stronger she was pressured into having sex with the
03:56:02.100
man because the man is physically stronger ergo even if she consents to sex the man was physically
03:56:10.660
stronger she was pressured into it women are conditioned to be passive essentially if a man
03:56:16.100
in any situation is physically stronger than the woman that that's essay i'm just not understanding your
03:56:27.300
i don't necessarily consider it essay i think what i'm trying to get is that i think
03:56:32.100
what i'm trying to get at is that we are shaped in certain ways and when we have these interactions
03:56:36.580
with each other that it forms i'm trying to explain why women have a bad impression of men and i'm not
03:56:44.500
trying to put all the blame on the men i'm trying to put explain that part of it comes down to how
03:56:48.900
we view our right but you're talking what you're talking about here is like if you're alone in a
03:56:54.180
room with a guy and i'm my understanding is if sex occurs you're saying that well if sex occurs
03:57:03.620
and the conditions are that women are more passive that's what you're saying and that the man's
03:57:08.980
stronger there's a power imbalance therefore the man has the essentially essayed the woman
03:57:17.220
is that your position no so what what are you trying to point towards with this with this talk of
03:57:28.900
women have been conditioned to be more passive uh
03:57:34.740
what what are you alluding to i think it gave a list of examples in ways that men can be
03:57:40.500
kind of shaped into these behaviors that are damaging towards women and i i don't want to focus too much on
03:57:45.860
the idea of coercion or overlooking soft nose and things like that because i think more of the
03:57:50.900
damage comes from things like lying and manipulating women into sex and using them for sex what would
03:57:55.940
be an example of lying or manipulating a woman into sex like if a man who worked at mcdonalds said he was
03:58:02.340
a lawyer would that be no like giving the impression i mean it would but okay yeah sure um giving the
03:58:08.820
impression that you're interested in having a relationship with somebody can't women do that too
03:58:12.740
yeah but i i think it happens at a much higher frequency from the male side because there's more
03:58:17.140
incentive to if you tie your self-worth to how many women you have sex with and you tie yourself
03:58:22.740
worth can i ask you a question sure um do you think i mean that it sounds like there's a cure though
03:58:29.700
like immediately it stands out to me that there's a cure now i understand what you're saying at least
03:58:33.780
i understand your argument you're saying and and i'll just kind of steel man this to make sure i get it
03:58:38.180
it right you're saying listen if society is saying that men's self-worth is much higher based on you
03:58:44.900
know how many women they're having sex with then they have an incentive to have sex with more women
03:58:49.540
thus lie to more women about wanting to have a long-term relationship in order to have sex with
03:58:54.580
them right yeah i would say that's okay well then wouldn't the argument for this be female chastity
03:59:03.140
wouldn't female chastity literally cure that problem if women waited till they were married
03:59:09.540
to have sex wouldn't that literally cure the problem i don't think necessarily because part of
03:59:14.500
the problem is the way that men view women and that also yeah they'd be okay but if they view them as
03:59:20.180
thing i want to have sex with if they're just objectifying them right thing i want to have sex with
03:59:25.540
and woman goes well you can't have sex till we're married how's that not the cure
03:59:29.460
maybe they just want to get married so that they can have sex with the person
03:59:35.620
yeah but i mean but if if that is the case then wouldn't that be vastly more preferable
03:59:42.180
because you're saying they're lying to women about the wanting to have a long-term relationship with
03:59:46.820
them i mean marriage is certainly a long-term commitment i mean i can't think of a more long-term
03:59:53.860
commitment than that sure i don't think it's necessarily preferable though because i think a lot of
03:59:58.340
women are feeling like they are under undervalued and like they're not being appreciated for who
04:00:02.660
they are as a person and only being appreciated for what they have to offer sexually well it seems
04:00:07.780
that if a man's willing to marry them they seem to be appreciated for basically everything but if you're
04:00:13.140
getting what do they say right it's the old saying if you're getting the milk for free right if you're
04:00:17.140
getting the milk for free uh then why buy the cow right so the the question becomes if if that is
04:00:23.860
your argument and it does and i did steal manny he said it was male promiscuity they have incentive
04:00:29.060
to lie so they can have access to sex okay that's a high status right got it well if that is the
04:00:36.420
status then it sounds like female chastity would essentially cure this issue i mean i don't see how it
04:00:41.380
wouldn't i don't think it does because i think part of the problem is that women want to be valued for more
04:00:46.820
than that yeah but they would be being valued for more than that they would be getting married to men
04:00:52.580
right those men would definitely value them or they wouldn't be marrying them right but if they're
04:00:56.580
still just marrying them because they want that status of or that access to a woman i don't think
04:01:01.700
well i'm sorry i'm sorry let's just assume for a second that like only five percent of them marry
04:01:06.180
completely on the condition that that's the only way they can have sexual access wouldn't that still be
04:01:10.500
completely superior in every way to modernity that you're talking about right now
04:01:16.820
i don't think that a five percent i don't think that would be inaccurate okay let's say it's 50
04:01:22.100
percent wouldn't that still be superior to the modernity that you're how would it not so sorry
04:01:27.380
in your example or scenario is it like a society where we're not allowed to get divorced it's just
04:01:32.420
modern society modern society where you're saying there's a plague of men who will lie to women in
04:01:37.460
order to get sexual access and like okay but if they lie to the woman and say hey i love you but i'm
04:01:43.220
willing to bury you and take care of you for the rest of your life in order to get access to that sex
04:01:48.020
how is that still not superior to the idea that they could just hump you and dump you i don't like
04:01:52.980
i don't get that like i suppose that's super you could say that's superior but how do we get there
04:01:58.820
and why do you think it's just yeah but but that's not really the question of how we get there we
04:02:03.140
first have to establish that that has to be superior to what we now have
04:02:06.580
i'm not committed to an answer on that you're not committed to an answer so you don't you think it
04:02:15.300
would be inferior that if men were marrying women for access to the sex that that would be an inferior
04:02:21.620
system to what we have now or they just lie to them and then bang them and there's no consequences
04:02:26.820
whatsoever i don't see why it would be superior if well because they would be in this because
04:02:33.780
your your issue is they're lying right so that they can have sex and there's no social repercussions
04:02:38.980
and they're lying about wanting a long-term relationship but if they marry you for the
04:02:42.900
sex they're definitely committing to a long-term relationship okay okay yeah i see your point with
04:02:48.420
that um yeah okay sure so then i go so so then like female chastity which should really be our kind
04:02:54.820
of our number one thing we're looking at here right i think i still don't necessarily agree oh
04:03:01.220
okay because i think part of the problem is still the fact that women are feeling undervalued
04:03:07.620
yeah i get that they may still but you would agree it would be vastly superior right i don't
04:03:13.860
necessarily agree because you you marry somebody who just values you for sex and then you're if
04:03:19.060
that's the only thing and you're still not feeling valued well what do you think men value women
04:03:23.220
for do you think what do you think that they're valuing them for like their credit cards what do you
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think they value women they value women because they want to have sex with them they want them to
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have their children that's the main value that women have to admit like what what what do you think the
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big value is women are bringing to the table absent sex i actually want to know the answer to that
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question this is such a point love and friendship love and friendship you can't you can get friendship
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from men why do you need friendship from women it's friendship with all these extra benefits sharing
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your whole life with somebody having a child with them merging world views sex huh sex so i mean
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so instead of when you're saying friend the distinction between you being a friend with a guy
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and and you having a wife is your wife is your friend who you also have sex with it sounds like
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the value here still seems to be the sex like because you can have all those other conditionals with
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other people but the sex seems to be the thing you are putting a value emphasis i disagree and i don't
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think sex should be the primary value because sex is kind of replaceable i think the the value that
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you get in a relationship is that merging of a like world views what do you bring to the table
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what do i bring to the table yeah in a relationship um i think i bring a unique perspective and i can
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help you live a more fulfilling life you think you're you think men date you because you bring them a
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unique perspective yeah i think i have given my partner a unique perspective and i think okay i think
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i've helped him to start living a more fulfilling life and to and i've led him to being a better person
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doesn't every human being on planet earth have a unique perspective no no they're not no how could
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two human beings not having you unless you're saying all human beings are not unique sure i would say a
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lot of people have you could say down to the there's some differences between people but i think there's a
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lot of overlap and shared world views so you want to be valued so you're one of those um i want to be
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valued for more than just my sexuality right yeah okay what do you want to be valued for what do you
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want to be valued for um yeah i guess that's a good question that i don't have i want to be valued for
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who i am as a person okay but why wouldn't you be valued for who you are as a person and the highest
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value that the man has with you is still the sex i don't get that i still value you as a person i think
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you're great i think you're wonderful this and that but the not having sex thing that's a deal
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breaker that seems reasonable i think i would want to be i don't think i would want sex to be at the
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top of that list why i'm valued for would you want like a woman to value you most for the money would
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i want my woman to value having sex with me more than anything oh it's terrible oh no what would i do
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what would i ever do if a woman only valued it's her top priority having sex with me oh oh it's
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terrible how would i ever get through the day she didn't love my big brain and big mind and she
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only valued sex as her highest priority with i don't know how i could live i don't know maybe that shows
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that's how you value yourself is what for what you have to offer wait i have a question for you
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would you date a guy who uh who lived with his parents yes you would yeah my first boyfriend
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did well he didn't live with his parents yeah you were a little you well you're 29 that was when
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you were 23 so you want to have kids one day yeah okay so you'd be totally cool dating a guy who
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lived with his parents well my prerequisite for having kids because i never wanted kids until my
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current partner was that if we're going to have kids i need to be able to be at home and raise the
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kids because i don't want them raised by the system so you want to be a stay-at-home mom i would try to
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work from home what kind of income you live in don't you live in one of the highest cost of living
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areas in california you said you're from the bay isn't it like we're outside of the bay so it's a
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little lower okay well in any case california is still high cost of living so and you don't want
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to be working so your partner has to work correct yeah okay that is that is the requirement if we're
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to have kids i don't and i don't think that's unreasonable because i think it's important right
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mom so then you look to a man to provide sure okay don't you think that in the same the same way
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you feel about your and i actually think it's a bit of straw men that men only care about sex but
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let's just grant it so the same way that you think men think that about women you think that about
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men you simply look at men as how they can provide for you i don't
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my partner wants to have children and that was the agreement that we had it's like i'm okay with
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having a kid you wouldn't date him you would not date him if he was not able to provide if he didn't
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want kids let's say he did he does want kids and that is the condition so there's a condition
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in order for us to have kids right i wouldn't leave him if he decided like sorry i can't do that
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what if he still wanted to have kids but he couldn't provide i would say sorry i'm not having kids
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kids okay so if men if women are sex objects then men are success objects
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i i'm not valuing him on his success it's the practicality reason for raising a child
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like i don't want to be the kind of person that just has the school system we've been lingering on
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this for too long uh one last thing you'd said that men you take an issue with men lying in order to get
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sex correct so for example a man claiming that he wants long-term commitment but he doesn't
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in order to get sex yeah that would be lying have you ever told somebody you would love them forever
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yes have you told your current partner that yes is it possible something could happen down
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the line where you guys no longer no you think it's impossible that you guys you guys are going to
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stay together okay well you you can agree though right that it's logically possible
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whether you think that it would actually happen it's logically possible like wolverine
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logically possible but it's but wolverine doesn't exist right
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uh let me ask you a question do you think that there are couples out there
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where either the man or the woman has said to their partner i will love you forever yeah and then
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they broke up or got divorced has that happened yeah okay so i mean these are just kind of statements
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of affection that people say to each other okay they're not they're not binding really sure okay so
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if you tell someone i will love you forever that's not like binding you're not obliged to actually love
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them forever even though you've said it sure okay but so your argument is is that well men claim like
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these men say they want long-term relationships but then they end up not or they break up with a girl
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sure okay so like i i'm just trying to understand like men make these uh like comments in an effort to
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what is your actual argument i'm just confused here men lie is that the argument
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not men all of them but enough of them okay so do so women who wear makeup in an effort to be more
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physically appealing to men is that a deception yeah okay are women manipulating men when they say
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they'll take that vow i'll love you forever through sickness and health and then they initiate
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eighty percent of divorces that's a good point i don't think necessarily i think there are people
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that will what if they lie just to secure those resources now securing alimony now securing child
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support yeah and then uh they just said i don't love you my feelings have changed i don't love you
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anymore if that's their their vow if that is their intention when they're marrying the person is that
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like i don't actually have a intention to follow through with you yeah that's wait that's not their
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intention initially but wouldn't that still be a manipulation if because they broke their vow
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so like when they're getting married the person in her mindset who's marrying this man and eventually
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going to divorce him her mind is that i love this man and i'm going to marry him and i want to spend
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the rest of my life with him and i'm not going to leave him and then she gets married to him and then
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she decides later on down the line that she realizes that she doesn't actually love no what i think
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happens i don't know if it's that i think women hit like a certain age they realize oh i want to have
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kids so i wasted my 20s doing whatever now who's around okay this guy will do i want my kids they
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marry him they uh make that vow that vow forever and then their feelings change i'm not in love with
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him anymore so they are like i mean i think yeah you could probably make an argument that that's a similar
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case where the woman is probably not being totally honest with herself about her
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motive with that man manipulating yeah for his resources yeah wait so hold on coming back to this
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so did you say that it would constitute essay if a guy lied to a woman about his intentions
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his romantic intentions in order to get her into bed so he says baby i want to be in a long-term
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relationship with you he fucks her and then dips is that essay i wouldn't i don't i don't know i
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don't know how i feel about that but i would say at the very least it's cruel and it's going to give
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people a false impression i think one of the worst things about essay and why a lot of women say they
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fear it is because that feeling of being completely used and dehumanized and disregarded as a person and
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so when somebody's doing that to you just because they want sex i think it can have a similar impact
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and it's going to impact your worldview of men and it's going to push women into this more radicalized
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position against men okay well so then would it be equally wrong then for a woman to bait a man
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into being physically attracted to her through use of makeup and other cosmetics
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no okay what about women who manipulate men to get money online how about that yeah i think that's
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that's just as bad i think that would be like probably pretty traumatic to be a man and you
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think that a woman wants to be with you and they're giving you all these signs and then
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they just get some money from you and they dip i think that would be equally traumatic
04:14:20.180
all right well i do have to uh move things on a little bit here we're going to get to some of
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lizzie notes we got to come back to some of your some video reactions here um
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um let's see and then let's do actually i have two i have one chat here kill of cereal get sun get
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some stay hydrated stay alive live within your means keep life in perspective nurture a skiller
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other than your body never let a strumpet in your bed my best to all oh sevens in the chat kill of
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cereal appreciate it man hope you have a good night so we're gonna actually have another chat coming up
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here we have stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten starting with you go
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hold on chris donated two hundred dollars thank you chris thank you ladies keep fighting andrew
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i wouldn't be able to keep my stable of side chicks if it wasn't women like you cosigning the bs
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that i tell them pump and dump feminists on birth control for life jesus who uh show of hands who's
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on birth control i've got the iud just kidding okay um all right cool uh okay so here i'll just
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since we got semi uh kind of cut off there stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to
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ten ten ten five ten nine two six six uh six okay so we got two tens and the nine uh okay um
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oh oh yeah uh i give myself a five andrew i would say i'm a four okay question for the ten
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and the nine do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years as compared to now okay so you're 25 so
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you'll be better looking at 35 as compared to now 25 for sure yes and you're uh 22 right so better
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looking at 32 than now at 22 let's let's uh double it 20 years better looking at 45 as compared to now at
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25. no i think like late 30s are the real prime late 30s are the prime of women if you take care
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of yourself okay uh still beautiful but not more beautiful okay into the mic into the mic oh um
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i think if i take care of myself and my skin and my health yes okay so the the thing is you got to look
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at this from a view of all else being equal so assuming you could do all those things right now
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and you had all those things right now you had the good skin the good health etc right would you be
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better looking now at 25 as or sorry 22 as compared to 42. you're saying would i look better now than
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compared to yeah that's the question yeah i i feel like yeah better now or yeah better now okay
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all right so wait better at 45 you said brooklyn i'm sorry you said better at 45 no i said what was
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it you no we we both said better at 35 better at 35 okay yeah all right have you guys heard of a thing
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called aging yeah i'm sorry i'm 35 right now and i do not look better than i did at 25 and i'm 36 and
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i don't look better than i did at 26 well i don't drink alcohol and i take care of myself so i have high
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hopes good genes are you on the uh are you on the old soy diet i don't eat soy at all vegan i don't eat
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soy at all that vegan diet no no soy no it's that's very rare for vegans to not encounter soy
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in at least some of their diet i used to eat soy i don't eat soy anymore i have a question have you
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guys ever had any uh cosmetic procedures no you've never had lip filler no brooklyn i swear i just uh
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brooklyn don't lie to me i swear you had a little lip filler i didn't back in the day
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no you had a little lip filler brooklyn i i would tell you if i did come on be honest be honest this
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is it's girls here it's the ladies you're it's the ladies i over i over line my lips no lip filler
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none we're gonna i'm gonna have to investigate your instagram again okay um i just learned nothing no
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okay um the only thing i ever wanted like before i used to want a bbl and i wanted uh i don't want
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it anymore i'm not but this is when i was like 18 i wanted a bbl and i wanted veneers but i don't
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want either of those anymore you wanted and i'm i'm honestly like i think everyone should do what they
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want to do but at the end of the day i'm anti-surgery and i'm anti-filler anti-surgery anti-filler yeah
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there's a little lip filler in here i don't know it looks a little you know what i mean the bottom
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no the top oh no i think the bottom really yeah i don't know brooklyn we're we're doing it
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oh okay all right i don't need to see that uh no lip filler never i know okay you can wear makeup
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wait question when it comes to makeup are you a 10 without makeup i say i'm always a 10. always
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makeup no confidence has to be there you're a 10 if you believe you're like it's it's uh
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it's not necessarily oh my god i'm the best looking woman in the world it's just i'm gonna
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walk around i'm gonna be confident always because why not but isn't that what a 10 you're saying you
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are you're the most attractive woman to walk this earth amongst the other 10s no i just said if you
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give me a scale one through 10 i'm gonna rate myself a 10 why would i lowball myself not be lowballing
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yourself just like honesty looking at i mean that's what we do as women we can gauge and we look
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and we see and you know you can say yeah that woman's prettier than me but oh yes of course
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there's women more beautiful than me well then how would you be a 10 if someone's more beautiful
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because there could be other multiple tens yeah they could be that's what i just said so she's at
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in par with all the rest of the 10 so all the most beautiful women in the world i think it mixes
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with personality too that's not what it's just looks though we're talking about looks yeah i think
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there's multiple tens i think well there can be more than one 10 but you can't be
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like more attractive if you're a 10 you are the most attractive i feel like i'm god's creation
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he did his thing what can i say okay yeah but i'm by your standard god's creation too and i'm not as
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pretty as you that's just that's subjective but that's how you feel about yourself no no that's i think
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how if i were to ask all these men in this room who's prettier you'd be prettier but that would just be
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them like beauty's in the eye beholder but maybe someone would think you're more attractive than me
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well i would question their super i wouldn't question it girl i would just take the compliment
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and run with it i would run i mean she is kind of not i i mean you're certainly self-aware liz
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uh i do think it would be the case if we lined up a hundred or a thousand or a million men and we
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gave them a binary choice between uh and liz love you to death between liz and like uh sure you i think
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a lot of them no offense to liz here just looking at things objectively they i would say vast majority
04:22:02.900
of the men would pick you of course and i am still a confident person and i'm not saying i'm not
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pretty and neither is brian but i'm not as pretty as you the two things can exist at the same time
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well yeah i just not going to change my i just don't think but you rated yourself a 10 and you
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rate yourself i think it's fair for her to call herself right it's fair you can call yourself that
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there's nothing wrong with that but i would like to just kind of quickly follow up with a quick
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question that i'm wondering um do you believe that narcissism is a real thing yes and i think i
04:22:35.380
have some of that in me for real yeah so i was just going to ask you um just a very quick follow-up
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are you the prettiest woman on planet earth do you think oh absolutely not okay have you ever seen a
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woman prettier than you who's famous absolutely i see beautiful okay can you name one of these pretty
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girls who is famous famous that is prettier than you uh i like ruby rose okay she prettier than you
04:22:59.940
yeah okay what are the features that make her prettier than you i just think she has a very
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unique look and as far as i know or like i think she's natural so i i you know i give it up to her
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okay so if she's a 10 if she's a 10 being the highest standard of beauty you can possibly think of
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then where do you place yourself okay so you guys want me to give myself a nine i think you're
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a 10 i think you're a 10 i think i'm just i'm just asking yeah i know i know what you think yeah
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she's a 10 but i just want to finish real quick i don't think all the women in this room are 10s at
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all but i think she based on features has i okay yeah great great i just i just want to know though
04:23:40.740
if if this chick ruby okay is a 10 she's the highest standard of beauty you can think of
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then where would you put yourself i understand what you're saying because you're saying if she's better
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than you how are you guys both tense i understand yeah that wouldn't that wouldn't make any sense
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right yeah okay so but i just am not going to go back on my answer of i it just regardless i
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understand you guys are saying oh it's looks it's not personality but i'm if someone tells me to rate
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myself out of 10 why am i going to give myself a lower number no i i totally understand what you're
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saying so yeah i get what you're saying you're saying like um from the perspective of confidence
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building right yeah it would be unrealistic for you as a confident woman to rate yourself as less
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than how you feel like you are which is a 10 which is everything it's beauty and personality and
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everything together right but we're just purely looking at an objective standard which you clearly
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must have because you think that this other girl's prettier than you so she's objectively hang
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on hang on so if she's objectively a 10 where would that put you i guess that would put me as a
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nine but i'm gonna still sit here like if we had to do that you know i'm like okay fine but i just
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if someone's gonna ask me a one through ten i'm gonna give myself a 10 no matter what no matter what
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just because even if i didn't look the way i did and i looked another way even like all of you guys like
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it makes me i mean i know they're all dense i yes i would i would hope that you guys would all
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feel like you're a 10 is there any girl in that room who's prettier than you i think we're all
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beautiful is there any girl in that room who's prettier than you i'm gonna get it up to my sister
04:25:18.420
but wait andrew okay okay hang on hang on so if your sister so then if your sister's a 10
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what does that make you so fine i guess we're all nines but i just like i'm saying wait you can't all be
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nines if you're the prettiest girl in the room and you rate yourself a nine then you'd have to rate at
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least other girls in eight right i didn't ever say i was the prettiest girl in the room
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okay are you the prettiest girl in the room i didn't no i didn't say that yeah i know but are you
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no okay who is i i think my sister is beautiful okay so she's the prettiest girl in the room
04:25:53.460
but so that would be less pretty thing on so that would mean you're less pretty than her
04:25:57.780
so if she's a 10 then that would make you a what she could be a 10 too but we could both be 10
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but it's just like i think my sister's most beautiful just off the fact that she's my
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sister and i know her and i'm in her face every day and also gonna give it up to her for being a
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natural woman i just look at her with so much love that i like if i'm looking around and i see beauty
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it's she's the first person i look at but that's just okay if your sister is a 10 if your sister is a
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10 in comparison to all the other girls in the room where would where would that put them
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um okay just so like we don't have to go on with this conversation because i feel like i've already
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said my example you're absolutely low of answering questions in an honest way i'm just i'm just it's
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like it's not gonna you're not gonna let it go so if say if i say my sister's the prettiest in the
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room she's a 10 and then fine then the rest of us can be nines does that work well that still wouldn't
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work because then who would the second prettiest so then every so then in so you then everyone
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would have to go down one number correct well no so here's how it would work then i'll explain if
04:27:07.860
she's a 10 and you that i would just ask you are you the the second prettiest girl in the room no then
04:27:15.460
who is i don't here i i do need to start moving things along a little bit here but i got a little
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bit on this so you said that all women are tens or should i would hope that all one of all women when
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they get asked a question like that i hope that they could feel about i feel i wish i could feel like
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a 10. you think it should be the same for men too are all men tens i think when men feel and act as
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they're tens they're more pleasant to be around than just being like really yeah just because
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it's just how you carry yourself at the end of the day a confident man is i would take a compliment
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a confident man that's not as good looking as a super good what if he's not confident and he's
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just delusional you don't know any guys who think they're hot shit but they're not of course definitely
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but isn't that good for them but good for them i feel like you don't clown dudes like that i don't i
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don't sit up in their faces and i don't entertain them but good for them if you feel good about
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yourself this is your life ten i i mean you can't be for everybody that's a time okay so not but are
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are all men tens if they feel like that i can't tell someone what they are okay that's why i can't
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sit up in here and say oh you're this you're that you're that i'm not well it's interesting because
04:28:36.740
you said so you said that well all women should view themselves i would hope they would did you
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say that all the way you think all the women here are tens yeah okay well this is something
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that's interesting to me so i think it's the case that more women than men will reject hierarchies
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so basically like if we're looking at capitalism for example so this is what gets you every girl is
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a ten and participation trophies everybody's a winner everybody's special this is what gets you
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common this is what gets you communism this whole this is how communism actually started this is how
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communism started is women were like we're all fucking hotties we're all bad bitches we're all tens
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everyone gets a trophy and then you know women are they're overwhelmingly vote for leftist politicians
04:29:24.340
and policies you know i think that's the origination of communism really because you reject hierarchies
04:29:32.260
i just think if i were to sit here and say oh you're reject hierarchy i just think if i were to
04:29:36.100
sit here and say you're a four you're a two i think that would drop me from a 10 to a piece of
04:29:40.580
shit well honestly i got because i just yeah but i mean we're not really looking for
04:29:45.460
but you just asked me who's the best looking i'm not gonna do that like yeah i understand i'm just
04:29:51.060
saying i think that that women will often do this a lot too where when you're asking the question you're
04:29:56.020
just basing it on physical beauty right you're not basing it on anything except the physical
04:30:01.700
and i think how often women will say well wait there's a package that comes with this what about
04:30:05.380
the personality what about the other external traits this type of thing uh but that's really
04:30:11.060
not what the question is alluding to is what's on the inside just it's purely uh the perspective of
04:30:15.860
what's on the outside that's what the question is alluding to that's why you can say that there's
04:30:20.260
other people who you've seen objectively who you think are prettier than you that makes sense to me
04:30:24.420
yeah and i'm just like my stance is i would not sit here and tell a girl she's a four i just wouldn't
04:30:31.460
but but can you admit that there could be women in the room who you do think are for that you just
04:30:36.980
wouldn't say it but you do think no i'll just say this fuck it i'm just throwing it out there
04:30:44.820
there's no tens and nines in the room tonight that's it for you
04:30:51.860
okay oh shit okay you want you want to squabble over this not a nine not a ten not a ten no i'm
04:30:58.020
sorry y'all are lovely i love you guys great personalities
04:31:03.700
no no no sorry not nine not a ten not a ten sorry just throwing it out there your perception isn't
04:31:09.620
reality though well and it could be vice versa exactly exactly i agree it's okay i'm just like i'm
04:31:18.260
a mid but then every but you have to know too every person would don't feel bad someone if we
04:31:23.220
lined up a hundred women and they all rated you they wouldn't have you want to have the same number
04:31:28.260
across the board actually interestingly enough i just want to let you know have you ever heard of the
04:31:34.580
idea of the collective vote actually being more accurate it's it's actually a strange phenomenon so
04:31:41.300
if you were to take a cow for instance and there's experiments done on this i don't remember exactly
04:31:46.260
what the terminology is for it but if you take a cow at a county fair dylan lolly donated 200
04:31:53.060
late 30s you mean when you can only give us one kid that's high risk 18 to 24 with thank you dylan
04:32:00.900
go go ahead andrew yeah so if you were to take a cow at a county fair and you ask each individual to
04:32:06.180
guess at the weight right um most of them will get it wrong but then if you average all their answers
04:32:12.260
you actually get really close to whatever the truth is that's what you what's interesting about
04:32:16.420
that experiment so the same thing would likely happen if you line brian up and you had women
04:32:21.540
honestly rate him across the board i think you're right you would get buried answers some would say
04:32:25.300
maybe a six a couple would say ten uh two might say eight and then you know a bunch say four and then
04:32:31.460
if you averaged up all those answers i bet that you would come to the conclusion that what brian rates
04:32:36.980
himself at as i think you said a five right yeah or six or whatever i think that you would end up
04:32:43.140
hitting really close to a five i or you know i think that that would probably end up being the
04:32:48.020
average well that's the average but that's still not and like if you're lining up a bunch of women
04:32:53.220
it's not well what it alludes to is that there might be some objective standard here that we're all
04:32:57.620
utilizing right i'm just saying that say a few people think he's a 10 like you're not going to convince
04:33:04.100
and that no no i i agree with that but what i'm saying is you can sit here and say oh you guys
04:33:08.660
you're not this you're not that and it's like okay well to you you know but there must be an objective
04:33:13.220
standard uh to some degree because otherwise how could people guess collectively very close to what
04:33:19.460
the cow is right basically what all of them are saying is i associate your the cow being big with weight
04:33:26.740
and so i'm going to guess higher because i associate that objective standard of weight as being true
04:33:31.860
right so they're able to guess with some accuracy there must be some objective standard that they're
04:33:36.900
appealing to the same thing must be true with beauty if we come to kind of the same similar
04:33:42.260
conclusion across the board wait i got to come in on something really quick on this so like you said
04:33:48.740
some girls would call me a 10 here's the crazy thing is i'm so sure i'm not a 10 i would call them
04:33:54.740
retarded if they called me a 10. i know i'm not supposed to say that but i would tell the girl
04:33:59.700
bro are you i would look at her like call me a 10 right now go ahead do it go ahead are you
04:34:07.620
retarded are you okay you want to talk to a doctor what's up see that's what i would do and because i
04:34:12.820
think as men we never receive compliments and i almost feel this would be more of a common occurrence
04:34:18.020
in women because y'all get bombarded with like simps and dudes complimenting you all the time your
04:34:23.460
girlfriend's gassing you up men rarely receive compliments but even i'm self-aware enough to be like
04:34:28.900
this person's just trying to flatter me there's no world where some chicks like yeah man brian with
04:34:34.020
the dad bod and the kind of you know he's got a bit of rosacea and he's got a little dandruff
04:34:41.060
he's a 10 bro no it ain't happening son it ain't happening but i feel like girls you're more better
04:34:47.700
attuned to when a dude's trying to flatter you you know when guys are trying to flatter you so wouldn't
04:34:52.580
you almost be more aware of somebody actually women like don't even like really when guys compliment
04:34:58.020
y'all because you know they're trying to hit you know they're trying to hit so wouldn't you be more
04:35:02.420
attuned to the fact these guys are just like when they if they call you a 10 they're like it's kind
04:35:08.020
of bullshit they're just trying to hit you know well yes because men are very ejaculate evacuate
04:35:12.820
that's what they're trying to do yeah well i think ejaculate evacuate okay sorry is that your model
04:35:17.780
he said that's a real right there listen listen i prefer long-term relationships okay
04:35:25.860
i like to ejaculate and stay there for a couple months preferably at least a couple months do you
04:35:32.020
are you more monogamous or you like to swing um swing huh or be i'm a one girl i'm a one girl
04:35:38.100
kind of guy okay if you and me were dating all it's a wrap on the other there's no other first
04:35:42.740
off there's no other chicks there's no other chicks wrap on the other chicks okay okay so yeah
04:35:48.660
you ejaculate and you stay there for a couple months until she starts nagging you and then you
04:35:52.740
just you know find a different girl i'm kidding it's not sure so no nagging huh no nagging no nagging
04:36:02.340
i don't like quarrelsome women proverbs 21 19 better to live in a hold on let me start let me start over wait
04:36:12.740
proverbs 21 19 better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife boom quoted
04:36:30.020
where are we i need to get to liz here liz has been dying she's ready okay you ready liz yes i need
04:36:37.060
andrew's help here i'm going to start with your disagreement then i'll get into some of your other
04:36:40.340
stuff so that might be you had a disagreement and it's actually good i was trying to figure out and
04:36:45.780
so i'm actually just uh andrew's going to be my champion on this argument hopefully uh so you said
04:36:52.100
that hold on by the way it's nice to see you again welcome back to whatever nice to see you
04:36:59.140
you said i think it is hypocritical brian that you have openly admitted that you're traditional in some
04:37:04.580
ways and degen and others yet you lay into your female guests for picking and choosing
04:37:09.460
in what ways they would like to be traditional you say it is not fair that a woman expects you to pay
04:37:14.740
if she's not traditional yet if you were on a date with a traditional woman you expect her to sleep
04:37:19.380
with you within the first few dates and you you refuse to marry her does this mean that you can pick
04:37:24.900
and choose your values but the women on your show cannot and why i love that
04:37:33.380
so i then it stumped me for a little bit and it stumped me and actually i came up with this four
04:37:38.500
dimensional just ninja chess response but we got andrew here my champion and you know look
04:37:46.020
i look i came up with the the most smoking gone owned rebuttal to this but because i'm feeling
04:37:55.460
generous and andrew's our special guest i'm just going to get up for a few minutes and let andrew
04:37:59.700
take it away andrew go ahead all right so um so first uh maybe we can condense the argument here um
04:38:06.820
just so i understand it better can just in your own words can you sure can you explain it to me so
04:38:12.100
i oh gosh now i have to think about what i said back in april okay um
04:38:24.900
he and ryan seems to dislike picking and choosing but then he also picks and choose like he can you
04:38:32.260
can't have both so you can't have a chased woman that will sleep on you sleep will sleep on you sleep
04:38:37.940
with you that same night like that those two things i don't think are synonymous that wouldn't make any
04:38:44.500
sense to me like where would you find that woman you know um why i don't understand that though why
04:38:51.700
couldn't you have a chased woman sleep with you the same night i just don't think that would be
04:38:58.020
the typical personality or the typical choice the chased woman would make i think she would want to
04:39:04.100
vet yeah i mean i agree that i would think that a woman who valued chastity probably wouldn't sleep
04:39:10.260
with you on the first night but i don't see why you couldn't have a chased woman who did you could
04:39:15.620
i just don't think it's likely so i don't think that you can and andrew brian can come on here and
04:39:23.780
you know say rightly so that he thinks it's wrong for women to be promiscuous and then expect
04:39:29.140
promiscuous behavior from those women oh i see it's the it's so you're talking about the homemaker
04:39:33.940
argument yeah so the the homemaker argument goes something like this um and you tell me if i'm on
04:39:39.620
track here you men are out there being promiscuous and the more women you sleep with the more hoes
04:39:46.340
you're making because you're sleeping with those women so at the one hand you have the standard
04:39:51.460
that um women should not be promiscuous while you're out there sleeping with women which by the
04:39:56.820
the way is the outcome of making them promiscuous right well i think women make themselves promiscuous
04:40:02.180
but well then i don't know what the argument is i think a woman would make herself promiscuous if
04:40:07.460
she slept with a man on the first night and if yeah i i don't think that brian would disagree with
04:40:12.740
it but brian expects women to sleep with him on the first or even the second date but that would still
04:40:19.460
more or less be promiscuous behavior so you can't you can't yeah champion so actually well actually i don't
04:40:26.580
actually see a contradiction here i think i understand where you see one so you're seeing
04:40:31.300
the idea that brian doesn't prefer promiscuous women but yet wants a woman to sleep with him
04:40:36.420
almost immediately uh in their dating cycle right right but what's the country but but what's the
04:40:42.260
contradiction because that in itself to me implies promiscuous that is a promiscuous action that she's
04:40:48.980
taking and a no he could have a he could have a virgin that he meets and she sleeps with him on the
04:40:53.620
second night happens he can have a he can have a woman that only has a one body count or two body
04:40:58.660
counts sleeps with him on the second second night that's not promiscuous at all i don't actually
04:41:02.580
understand what the contradiction is so like i like let me put it this way let's say let's say my
04:41:10.420
position is i don't like promiscuous women but i'm not going to date you unless we we're having sex
04:41:17.140
right those two are not mutually exclusive claims so i can still not value women who are promiscuous and
04:41:23.300
still want women who sleep with me almost immediately that doesn't mean that they're
04:41:27.060
promiscuous right but who is more likely to sleep with you immediately oh i would say the promiscuous
04:41:33.620
woman but so what she's a slut and she knows it well yeah i knew that already but um i just think in
04:41:46.020
practice it doesn't it's kind of a confusing confusing double message like it doesn't make
04:41:53.460
sense to me that it seems to be encouraging the very culture that you don't well i should i suppose
04:42:00.100
i should jump in here unless andrew you have you want to champion yeah i just i just want to kind
04:42:04.420
of finish this off um i i don't i don't understand how it's actually a contradiction to say i don't value
04:42:12.020
promiscuity in women right but then also want to have sex with women early on who are not promiscuous
04:42:18.420
right wouldn't that be like you get the goods first like you were the first person who got the orange
04:42:24.260
right before everybody else handled it like isn't that isn't that kind of the point but we tend to
04:42:29.860
speak on this podcast with generalities and in general i would say that a chaste non-promiscuous virgin
04:42:37.860
the likelihood of you finding what you want and having her sleep with you on the first day which
04:42:42.900
i will acknowledge may have happened but the percent chance of that being likely is very low
04:42:48.420
but don't you wait a second if we're speaking in generalities then i think that you have the problem
04:42:53.780
here because wouldn't you agree that what are called or quote high status men are often going after
04:43:00.900
the women with the very very low body counts and they often get them because they're high status
04:43:06.020
men and in general most men are not high status men and so if they're in the category of i don't
04:43:10.900
know having like the second largest irl podcast on planet earth um oh and uh you know all the
04:43:17.300
entailments which come with that i'm not sure if it is but i'm just saying if it is um wouldn't that
04:43:23.220
wouldn't that kind of already make you outside of this kind of general theme of what most men are
04:43:28.420
like couldn't you afford to be a little bit more selective and with uh with your taste couldn't you
04:43:34.660
kind of afford to have that kind of caviar taste uh because you no longer have the the uh the beer
04:43:40.420
budget right of course but i would expect brian to live what he says outside of this podcast and i
04:43:46.340
don't think sleeping with women on the first night is living to the standards that he purports to think
04:43:51.300
are best for society well it seems like he thinks what's best for society is that women are chased
04:43:56.260
right if women are chased then brian doesn't have a choice does he
04:44:02.580
well i think well actually by your standard of what you think we ought to do brian wouldn't have
04:44:06.980
a choice he'd have to marry somebody to have that's right he would wouldn't he and also that would just
04:44:11.860
take all that choice right away it sounds like that would be a positive outcome for society doesn't
04:44:16.340
it yeah and i think so it sounds like if you follow brian's advice and you're all chased
04:44:21.060
right and women are not giving it up then um it seems like brian wouldn't have much of an option
04:44:27.300
anyway right correct but if the option is available for low body count women and his preference is to
04:44:33.460
sleep with them early on i still don't actually understand where the contradiction is because i think
04:44:38.340
if he's a man that stands on the principles that he encourages he should not sleep with a woman
04:44:43.300
what do i well what do i encourage i think you encourage people to well now i think you're
04:44:51.060
considering orthodoxy which would you're either gonna have to choose between being a monk or
04:44:56.180
picking a woman well i mean look i agree with you that brian shouldn't be a degenerate and sleep with
04:45:00.340
a bunch of chicks okay i agree with that i agree with that shit that's the okay so that's my one
04:45:05.620
backstab of the evening for my friend okay he shouldn't be a degen and sleep with a ton of
04:45:10.580
shit i agree with but i don't okay okay but he doesn't right that's true but i'm just saying
04:45:15.940
he shouldn't do that if that is what he's doing and i do think that he doesn't value promiscuity in men
04:45:22.180
but just because he says you know maybe he's one of those types of guys that dates many many many women
04:45:27.780
until he finds one he's going to have a physical relationship with and if he expects that to be
04:45:31.540
early on seems like a reasonable preference i'm not sure that it's an unreasonable preference
04:45:36.340
i suppose it could be a reasonable preference i just don't think it's a likely preference given
04:45:43.540
his other preferences of what the kind of woman he would prefer i don't think that that kind of woman
04:45:48.340
overall well maybe that's why he's not sleeping around because the preference is unlikely right but
04:45:53.620
still available you know what i mean like there are women with low body counts who may still be
04:45:59.140
available to brian he still may prefer to sleep with them early on there's no actual contradiction there
04:46:04.020
though i agree from a moral standpoint yeah he should you know he shouldn't be a fucking dj i
04:46:09.460
agree with that okay i agree with that he shouldn't do the djed shit that i agree with so i think in your
04:46:15.380
original statement there's definitely some perhaps uh i don't think you have a full understanding here so
04:46:23.940
i don't in terms of expect uh i don't necessarily expect a woman to sleep with me on the first date but
04:46:33.620
i don't object to it either don't object to it either but also i'm not interested in like sleeping
04:46:42.420
with uh two new women a week three new women a week like if here's my thing right if i want to sleep
04:46:48.980
with a girl i want there to be continuity so if i sleep with a girl even if it's very early on i've
04:46:53.380
already made a determination that i want to continue seeing her there's going to be a continuity
04:46:57.620
absent some like i sleep with her and then she just like goes full psycho she would have to do
04:47:05.380
something like it wouldn't be on me like i you know if i sleep with her and then i'm just gonna dip
04:47:09.700
but she would have to like do some crazy shit like i don't know fucking start crying and like oh i miss
04:47:15.940
my husband i'd be like oh you're married okay that's a problem yeah i can accept that but something
04:47:21.940
crazy like that but if i choose to sleep with a girl there's going to be continuity i'm going to
04:47:25.860
continue seeing her i've never been interested in these guys who just fuck a girl once and that's it
04:47:30.420
no i'm going to continue seeing you but she even though you're saying that and i believe you that
04:47:35.540
she does not necessarily know that so and from her perspective she probably want to vet you and be
04:47:40.740
like oh is he really going to stick around without the sex first well then i would ask what's her
04:47:45.700
standard been for all the previous men she's slept with because then i'm going to feel like
04:47:50.100
it's unfair treatment and i could totally understand that and i i could totally understand
04:47:55.940
that but and i would understand why you wouldn't go for those women but i think the women you're going
04:47:59.620
for i think you should make more um compromises in that respect to be willing to wait a little
04:48:07.060
longer for a quality woman i mean i would be willing to wait like look you can you can wait however
04:48:15.140
long you want it's just going to ultimately be a mismatch in terms of what we're looking for
04:48:19.380
and it's best we just go our separate ways you want to wait three months i don't i'm not interested
04:48:24.420
in especially if she's had like previous sexual partners and they didn't wait now i'm going to feel
04:48:30.980
like a sucker yeah and i don't want to feel like i don't want to be a sucker and i would if i was your
04:48:35.300
like friend and we were just chatting i would totally under i would say yeah do that but but so
04:48:41.060
and here's the thing right when it comes to like a woman can have a low body count but otherwise choose
04:48:47.220
she's like i like this guy he's the one i'm interested in pursuing he seems like he's not
04:48:52.580
i mean some women get played for sure like the guy will say oh yeah i want a long-term relationship
04:48:57.380
have sex with her and ghost her that happens totally get it but that's not at least for me i mean
04:49:04.820
that's not what i'm about right so like i said i want there to be a continuity uh but when it comes
04:49:10.740
to women not having a high body count so as a woman you can like i think the bigger indicators
04:49:17.380
of like racking up a high body count wouldn't be necessarily how quick you sleep with the guy
04:49:22.580
it's what's the context and environment so okay like my recommendation of women if you want to
04:49:27.700
make sure that this guy's gonna stick around i think it's far less i mean waiting can certainly
04:49:33.860
help weed out dudes but also if there's alcohol involved that's a bad idea like that's more likely
04:49:41.460
to lead to uh on both ends like it just being viewed as like a one-time thing or casual so if
04:49:48.820
there's alcohol involved you met in a party type environment so rave bar nightclub etc not a good
04:49:54.420
venue to meet somebody um if you're traveling okay immediately that's created a conflict in terms of
04:50:01.860
uh one of the big things is like proximity and convenience to making something work not to
04:50:07.700
say that long-term relation excuse me long-distance relationships can't work but if you're in europe
04:50:12.900
for a week and you fuck a dude like the chances of that becoming a long-term relationship very unlikely
04:50:19.620
likewise if you live in a city and some hot european dude's there for a week you probably shouldn't
04:50:24.420
fuck him that you're just you just racked up a body it's not going to be a long-term relationship go
04:50:29.460
ahead as i will say this um like in the spirit of ultimate good faith i'm going to concede the
04:50:34.660
argument to you because i think you have the the better end of the argument um perhaps the first l
04:50:41.700
i've taken on whatever podcast but i give a full concession brian what yeah gotta stop being a
04:50:48.500
fucking dj i'm not a teacher you can't do it bro you gotta i gotta concede the argument here she's
04:50:54.660
totally right no i can't i can't i can't do it i gotta concede it's not dgen though it's not dgen
04:51:04.900
i'm not like trying to like i said i'm not trying to fuck like three new girls a week
04:51:08.900
i'm interested in long-term relationship but in a long-term relationship i'm not waiting until marriage
04:51:15.220
so by the orthodox standards that you're thinking about would that right no no no no no let's not
04:51:22.660
go into all that okay first for let's not scare brian off immediately okay but the thing is is that
04:51:29.380
okay i'll make the concession to you if you're at least if you're moving towards um towards i think a
04:51:38.020
long-term relationship when it comes to the physical relationship that that is far better in society than
04:51:43.780
just going around and being a promiscuous you know this type of thing but i i just i can't man
04:51:49.300
like the concession here is it's still bad you shouldn't do it i mean that's well if the ultimate the
04:51:56.820
ultimate is waiting until marriage then sure it's from that world view it's bad but like i think the
04:52:03.780
way i move is leaps and leaps and bounds what is it leaps and bounds thank you thank you alicia
04:52:10.660
is leaps and bounds less degen than like one of these guys who are saying i'm gonna fuck three
04:52:20.340
three new girls a week i'm gonna go to the club fuck a chick within 30 minutes meeting her alcohol
04:52:25.140
is going to be involved all this stuff so i'm not waiting until marriage but i'm also not trying to
04:52:31.780
like run through every chick fuck him once never talk to him again if i have sex with a girl i am
04:52:38.340
pursuing that girl for long term there's no for me it's a waste of time i'm not interested in sleeping
04:52:44.980
with the girl and it's honestly a liability it's not i'm not interested in sleeping with a girl once
04:52:50.100
and never talking to her again doesn't interest me but like for my stepdaughter for example how i
04:52:54.740
would advise her i wouldn't advise her to assume that most men are like you unfortunately i would
04:52:59.140
advise her to assume that most men are like what you discussed they're gonna they might yeah especially
04:53:03.700
when they're younger um so she's 10 now so i'm thinking like maybe when she's 10 years from now
04:53:08.900
or so and she's you know thinking about this god i hope it's 10 years from now anyway um i would not
04:53:16.820
advise her to expect that i wouldn't say that's the typical treatment she's gonna find so i would
04:53:21.700
encourage her to wait generally all the time even if she meets you because she doesn't know who you are
04:53:27.700
i just that's fair yeah that's well that's the point yeah that's the point of the argument i
04:53:31.380
couldn't get past and why i had to concede to it so the point of the argument i can't get past is
04:53:36.580
um the idea that you i think brian in the like the spirit of good faith i have to say this would
04:53:44.180
recommend to a girl not to sleep with you essentially to not sleep with you wait well
04:53:53.460
fuck so we're just gonna we're gonna we're gonna interpose a different man who's not brian
04:53:59.060
but she goes on a date with that man uh you know and and within a couple of weeks we're sleeping
04:54:04.340
together and he says he wants a long-term relationship wouldn't the general recommendation
04:54:08.740
from you be not to sleep with that guy if the woman came to you that's like that's
04:54:14.740
why i think i gotta concede the argument hmm let me think this through
04:54:23.460
i'm different okay i'm just andrew i'm different okay are you a unique person i'm listen i'm not
04:54:36.980
like those other guys i'm not like those other guys i'm not like those i'm not like those other guys
04:54:44.020
okay first off and uh but the other thing is is like
04:54:52.340
these these they've already fucked you know you know what i mean
04:54:57.060
you know like a lot of look the virgins are rare right so it's like okay bro they've got a couple
04:55:02.820
bodies they had a couple one-night stands it's like come on bro oh now you want me to wait three
04:55:08.500
months get the fuck out of here bro get the fuck out of here okay look no you can change up you
04:55:14.980
could you could have smashed 100 dudes in a month hold on wait hold on let me finish my you could have
04:55:19.860
had sex with 100 dudes in a month within 10 minutes of meeting them and then 24 hours later
04:55:29.140
you uh you have a change of heart i'm waiting till marriage you can do that as a woman i would just look
04:55:34.900
at that and be like damn that's a bad deal okay but i'm good for society though it is a better deal
04:55:41.140
because now instead of choosing to continue with the degenerate behavior and just always be the same
04:55:47.860
person which is what you'd prefer she's choosing okay i'm going to be a different person now and i'm
04:55:51.700
going to wait till marriage that is the better choice for society to change and to not be the same
04:55:57.140
and you may not accept that that and that's okay but that doesn't change that her choice is better to
04:56:02.100
change yeah but you know this is kind of a fantasy land we're talking about here you know
04:56:09.300
yeah a little bit maybe you know it would be better for you know it'd be better for society if there
04:56:16.420
wasn't war we should just end that we should we should end that silly thing of war you know we should
04:56:22.900
end so by your standard should i just continue remain yeah i don't think that's the tough that's
04:56:29.540
where i get that's where uh you know it's tough there and even if i knew that no man would ever
04:56:35.380
date me and not not you or anybody else and i was single single i still wouldn't well the answer is
04:56:41.380
the answer is no the answer is no you shouldn't and you know that you shouldn't and you know that
04:56:46.980
every new d equals one less value point right if this is an rpg you're gaining no new experience so
04:56:54.500
it's like the answer would have to be no and the thing is is um i think i can argue the point from
04:57:00.980
the position that it's not hypocritical it's not and it's not a uh in any way contradiction it's not
04:57:08.340
however i do think that um i do think that the advice which would be given would uh like i you know
04:57:17.300
i kind of gave my position there and so now you know what happened you know what just happened right
04:57:21.060
now is that so i have kind of this golden rule right if if you're at a bar with a friend and
04:57:26.100
other guys come up and they start fight it doesn't really matter if your friend instigated it or not
04:57:31.300
you get up and you go with your friend right that's that's the way it works and um i feel like this this
04:57:37.540
time i didn't get up at the bar and that's so that's an l for andrew i had to concede i i don't
04:57:44.180
i don't have anything for this anyways let's i gotta get through the rest of the notes for lizzie here then
04:57:49.620
we gotta get back into these two girls videos because they got some great clips you guys got
04:57:54.740
great clips we're gonna get to them i honestly should have did my homework before coming on i
04:57:58.900
didn't know that this was gonna happen what do you mean that we would be reacting to your clips yeah
04:58:04.820
no it's good though you guys got good clips don't worry thank you we do just for the sake of time
04:58:09.540
though when we do get to the clips we got to do like two minute commentary max that's good with me
04:58:14.980
that's good so don't argue with me we already talked about this last time the labia thing you
04:58:20.260
don't like the whole labia thing anyways we talked about it last time i think you've got to
04:58:23.940
get on board of my non-profit organization listen we we're trying to help we're trying to help women
04:58:28.980
a lot of women are insecure about their large labia in fact i have some i get dms multiple times
04:58:35.300
a week from women saying i've never heard a guy talk about this i've never heard a guy say he likes
04:58:40.980
wizard sleeves i've never heard that shit and they're like you are my spirit animal they're
04:58:49.140
telling me this shit these women are telling me brian you have i was gonna cut my shit off i was
04:58:54.260
gonna get a labiaplasty i was gonna spend 10k on the surgery go under the knife and i heard you so
04:58:59.460
passionately advocating for my pussy lips that they i talked them out i didn't talk them out but they
04:59:06.500
decided not to get the surgery and i think that's great beautiful i am doing a service to okay
04:59:13.780
but i think you're also doing a service to yourself yes yes yeah yeah yes he has his cape on what the
04:59:23.620
fuck save the day it's a wizard slave get it right and now they're like you should get a
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they want to show you they're like big lady matter hashtag big lady look i'm just saying i only date women
04:59:38.420
with large labia how do you know you just ask them straight up like you got a smaller big one
04:59:42.980
literally literally that was my game back in the day i'd walk up to a girl before tinder and
04:59:48.340
shit be like yo what's up any rowdy i'm just kidding i never said that shit how do you feel
04:59:55.540
about a woman asking about your sizing right away i tell them the truth and what's the truth what you
05:00:02.500
want i'll tell you what i'll tell you you but you gotta tell me what the any rowdy status is of the
05:00:08.820
the table right now sorry andrew put earmuffs earmuffs andrew okay go ahead
05:00:16.260
oh no i'm not gonna okay we're not gonna say it look i'm just saying look i a lot of my advocacy
05:00:23.700
has made women empowered and confident and secure in
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you know i think that's wonderful i'm sure you're very excited for society it's a beautiful it's a
05:00:36.900
beautiful thing you know one labiaplasty is too much on my watch and i have i i've because of the
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advocacy i've done on this program women have dm'd me and said i was going to get a labiaplasty but i
05:00:51.300
choose not to okay you've created your own dating app yeah oh no it's not come on guys all right
05:01:00.260
anyways um but seriously ladies i it's a it's a tragedy that these women feel insecure about their
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labia i don't think i don't think anybody should be being shamed for the way they were the born naturally
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like men if you have a small peepee it's okay you know you shouldn't be shamed you shouldn't be
05:01:19.540
shamed agreed and there's too much small peepee shaming in fact there's average peepee shaming
05:01:25.460
that's also not cool let's be let's be nice to the men with average and teeny peepees okay that's
05:01:32.580
right for those of us hung like a stud hamster we need that kind of benefit in society
05:01:37.380
yeah i will also say for the record that i've actually had very good carnal knowledge with men
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that did have um small yeah there you go that so carnal knowledge yeah
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but a lot of these women they're insecure it's sad it's very sad it's very sad and i'm the only guy
05:01:58.420
talking about this i'm the i'm literally the only i'm the spearhead of this movement and i think it's a
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fucking tragedy that women get shamed if they have large labia and you know look there's a lot of
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misconceptions doesn't mean that they've had you could be a virgin and have largely because they
05:02:15.060
think oh if it looks like an arby sandwich then that's their words not mine i would never refer to
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it as arby's they say that they think you got your back blown out too hard yeah but that's not true
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that's not how anatomy works not how it doesn't mean you you're you're salooning it up doesn't
05:02:35.780
mean that anyways got to move it on okay you said you went on a blind date with uh oh tell us the
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vampire story 30 seconds go okay uh i went on a date with the guy he told me he died seven times
05:02:46.260
was a vampire i was like you're full of shit and i didn't go on a second date you said not wanting
05:02:51.700
to date me because i'm ran through is also completely understandable and fair yeah and you said
05:02:57.060
your uh what was the body count again 100 to 120 can i ask i just want to let you know um when we
05:03:06.900
first the first time i engaged with you that was like shocking and stunning to me because it was early
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on in my i guess whatever podcast career but um that's not even that bad by some of the standards now
05:03:20.500
that i've heard it's like it's it's kind of low it's kind of low compared to what a lot of these
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checks have insanely enough that's very sad and i include myself in that uh okay wait hold on uh
05:03:37.540
things to clear up from your previous appearance you said you uh oh those things aren't i don't know
05:03:42.100
if they're relevant anymore you said you do genuinely feel like you do not qualify for princess
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treatment princess treatment because you're not princess however your man still spoils you
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in many ways and provides princess treatment and you're very grateful yes okay uh you also said that
05:03:59.620
uh one of the ways i knew that my man was the one for me was in the first gift he ever gave me oh yeah
05:04:05.220
so um we were very very like very first dating and for a while we just spoke on the phone um because he
05:04:12.820
was kind of far away so we'd speak a lot on the phone and this is not advised but i i had just
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gone through a major breakup i was really upset and i had this silly moment at my house that i was renting
05:04:25.460
at where i couldn't i couldn't open a jar and i was like oh my god i don't have a man and now i can't
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open jars it's so sad and so i shared this with him i was opening up in which i don't recommend
05:04:36.980
talking about your exes with your but i did and so um his first gift to me was a jar opener and so
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that showed me that even if we don't work out he really cares and he wants to you know it's a small
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thing but i thought it was nice no i see that i honestly it's the thoughtful gifts like oh you're
05:04:52.980
really paying attention to what i say and what i desire yeah so liz i got more no
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what what is it andrew nothing but i'm taking back my concession because i've been thinking about
05:05:07.380
this because it's it's driving me nuts now right i don't i don't like to concede on arguments i really
05:05:13.380
hate it so i've been sitting here thinking about this is it your position brian that a woman it's okay
05:05:23.460
for a woman to sleep with a guy if she's trying to build something with him yeah of course that's
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okay yeah i guess then if that's the position and that's what you're advocating yeah then it seems
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like what he's pushing out to what he wants to the behavior of society is completely consistent
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with that position but how can you know that he wants to build something with you on that very first
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state yeah but but but the thing is is it assumes right we're this immediately assumes i want to
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build x with you or i'm not sleeping with you so if it assumes that i don't want to build x with you
05:06:00.260
unless i'm sleeping with you and that's also the advice that he's giving out to men which is just don't
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don't sleep with a woman and women don't sleep with men unless you're building something together
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yep then that actually does seem consistent boom checkmate well well done andrew vanquished
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sorry go ahead you conceded the point before uh you can't walk it back andrew that's true okay
05:06:26.340
that look that's true you did get the first you got the first concession on an argument ever uh for me
05:06:32.500
i had to concede because man that it was it was very compelling clip of the chip about it a little
05:06:38.500
bit more and now it's less compelling i didn't get to finish that because you conceded before
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i now see the logic of what you're saying so i will also concede the point that is a good
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point oh look okay but the second concession negates the first concession which means you
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concede and i don't well i was expecting that to happen anyway so sure but i i appreciate the
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good faith exchange it was a lot of fun going back to you lizzie you said that women should uh what
05:07:04.660
about nerds oh i i really i think i think a lot of women don't consider nerds and they should
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because they are in my experience which has been vast i've pretty much only dated nerds i like nerds
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they are smart they are passionate about the things they like they work hard they tend to get into careers
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that are lucrative and um you know will always be needed um and they tend to be humble which is
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another thing i definitely value so i think try out nerds you said creative too oh yes and creative
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yes in which ways i don't know if you recall saying you said inside the bedroom oh yes yes well you know
05:07:47.460
they tend to be very creative in all realms really you you also said what about the tradesmen tell us
05:07:54.180
about the tradesmen oh yes um tradesmen are also a great choice because if you think about it like
05:07:58.980
you know if i'm looking for a husband and well i i i found my husband but if i was a contractor is a
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great option because if you guys have a house you are going to save exponentially a he's always going to
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have work b he's going to know how to fix a lot of the stuff around the house you're going to save on
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that um c he's probably a humble man who's willing to work and support his family that that's not
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always the case but i think that that tends to happen and i also i just think it's it's a better
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career than you know you're always going to need an electrician a plumber you know all these things so
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i think that they're great and i think that most people including women i would not advise to go to
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college i would advise to go to trade school because it is better it is more cost effective it's a better
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choice all around shorter time yes exactly that too oh you you have a story the story oh no okay
05:08:52.180
um you said that your man is the head of our house uh he's the leader of our house because he earned it
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yeah it's not because he's a man and he has a pp it's because he works the hardest and he sacrifices
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the most and he's the one that i know if something horrible was happening i mean i'd be willing to
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protect the house too but i know i know that he would um he would protect us all and he would take
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a bullet for me and his daughter and his family so he's not just the leader because of his gender
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he's a leader because of his actions and you said that you're are you still a member of his of
05:09:27.300
andrew tate's i am cobra university yep is that what it's called i think so university yes i thought
05:09:33.940
it was hustlers universe oh it is it has the cobra image oh okay so you said um going back a little
05:09:40.340
bit here you said you're liberal you you're a liberal from berkeley you're raised by a hippie dad
05:09:45.460
and a british mother uh you don't think a person could have been raised more liberal that being said
05:09:50.580
you support the tate brothers because you believe they're wrongly imprisoned a while okay um you also
05:09:56.260
said that uh i don't know if you're pitching their program uh the tate program we don't have to do that
05:10:02.900
uh well um but you you said that you're very grateful for andrew tate's teachings yeah i don't
05:10:10.980
like everything that he says okay um but obviously you know i don't like most of what every i mean i
05:10:16.580
respect and unlike andrew but i don't like everything he says you know but i think that i find value in
05:10:23.620
strong masculinity because i think that even though i'm a woman i can still stand to be stronger i could
05:10:28.420
still stand to earn more money i could still stand to go to the gym more and i've done all those things
05:10:33.300
thanks to a lot of andrew tate's advice and then moving on here you said are you uh religious no i'm
05:10:39.460
not no you said i'm gonna give if you guys want to engage on this i'll give you guys five minutes you
05:10:45.300
and andrew uh you said god is a man-made concept used to enforce morality as are all religions i believe
05:10:53.060
jesus was a real man but he was not the son of god as god is not real your words not mine you guys
05:11:00.740
andrew is this something you want to bite on is this something oh yeah right on yeah absolutely
05:11:05.540
but let me just uh let's do uh it's 10 10 15 now you guys have four minutes 10 20 go ahead
05:11:16.340
okay so let's start just very quickly the concept that god is made up right okay and um that's that's
05:11:24.580
actually a way more powerful claim then you're not sure you realize that right yeah i mean technically
05:11:32.820
i'm not sure because i think that's the most logical so then if you're not sure you're conceding that there
05:11:39.940
could be a god there could be but the percent chance that the being that they describe in the bible is real
05:11:46.180
or any other religious book i think is not likely no yeah okay so so then you're not an atheist you're
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an agnostic yes you're saying it could be true correct okay gotcha let me ask you this do you
05:11:59.060
believe that the laws of logic are real i actually don't know what all the laws of logic are well so
05:12:05.140
like for instance the let's just take the law of identity you can't be the person next to you and
05:12:10.660
the person next to you can't be you you have to be you and only you can be you correct yes okay and
05:12:16.900
that can is that always true or is that a man-made construct i'm pretty sure that's always true well
05:12:23.700
if it's always true that's really really strange right why would it why how could you have a thing
05:12:29.700
which does not exist but is always true how could that be possible
05:12:34.020
three minutes i'm not sure how to end but i don't think that god is not always real because
05:12:44.340
not everyone believes he's real so by that logic what does that have to do with anything so it doesn't
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matter if you believe that the law of identity is real it's still real right right but that i don't
05:12:56.260
think that works for god unfortunately well oh you don't think that that works for god no because
05:13:01.700
i don't think that there's some man in the sky that's gonna rain frogs down and what do you mean
05:13:08.500
a man in the sky your conceptualization of god is very bizarre here but let's just stick back with the
05:13:14.340
the idea of these metaphysical truths like the law of logic is mathematics something which is
05:13:19.380
discovered or is it something which you invent i think it's something invented to describe a reality
05:13:26.100
and that reality is what is if i have two oranges in this hand and two oranges in this hand i have
05:13:37.620
four oranges the reality is so two plus two always equals four whether or not your mind is present to
05:13:44.020
perceive that that's true yes so these things are true regardless they're mind independent right
05:13:49.700
yes so if these things are are not created by man but rather exist instead as a metaphysical
05:13:57.940
conceptualization of truth how is that possible absent a creator
05:14:04.740
so you're saying because we have mathematics we have a creator we have no no no no i'm saying that if
05:14:11.220
there's if there's transcend if there's transcendental truths i'm trying to this is a wide concept i don't
05:14:16.580
have a lot of time so i'm just trying to break it down very quickly right if there's transcendental
05:14:20.740
truths meaning there are truths which exist right outside of the mind how is that possible if you
05:14:27.460
are claiming that truth is mind dependent wouldn't that allude to there being a mind
05:14:41.300
i'll be honest this is getting very heady for me and i'm having a hard time following
05:14:45.540
um well it's just to make it to condense it to condense it super easy okay if if like you say
05:14:55.540
everything is subjective and mind dependent then how can you have things which are true even absent the mind
05:15:08.260
well because math is just the words we chose to describe so like what about the laws of logic like
05:15:17.460
the law of identity which is always true no matter what's always true it can't be human construct it
05:15:24.020
has to be objectively true if that's true and you're saying everything is mind dependent but this would
05:15:31.140
still be true even absent a mind wouldn't that allude to the fact that there's another mind
05:15:35.380
see i'm not sure if i'm prepared to say that because i don't know that i'm
05:15:40.420
at the level well then all you have to do is give me a scenario where the laws of logic wouldn't be
05:15:44.980
true like for instance could could planet earth be planet earth and not planet earth at the same time
05:15:54.260
no is that possible even if all minds are gone is that possible
05:15:58.340
no well so so if it's objectively true then truth and truth to you is mind subjective
05:16:07.860
right if this is a subjective thing but if this is objectively true then wouldn't it be mind
05:16:12.980
dependent well so my basis for truth is what is literally here the planet is a literal planet
05:16:18.900
in space it can be i'm very sorry guys i'm sorry to cut you off we do have to move it along but you can
05:16:25.060
catch her tomorrow on the crucible where they get into a uh they're they're gonna have a three-hour
05:16:31.540
conversation on this so be sure to tune into that uh so i guess uh there's the you wanted to talk about
05:16:37.860
the politics hot table you don't have to talk about uh you maybe we'll touch on that a little bit later
05:16:44.980
i guess the last thing uh we kind of already talked about the body count stuff so what was the other
05:16:52.340
thing that you wanted to hit on i'll come back to it i want to do some of my rapid fire questions that
05:16:58.340
i have we have to review their clips and uh so hold on one sec guys while i'm finding my next notes here
05:17:05.300
would you rather be the king's mistress or peasant's wife starting with you
05:17:08.820
king's mistress i'm gonna be the king's mistress
05:17:16.900
i mean i think it depends on the person the king like if it's a small principality or like
05:17:22.820
full-on like the person it depends on their personality
05:17:28.820
the was lichtenstein a principality i don't know
05:17:32.020
like let's say it's like one one hundredth the land mass of germany so it's like it's small
05:17:40.820
territory you know i think for me it depends on the the person
05:17:48.180
if you if you want to do all things equal then it would so king henry the eighth okay or
05:17:53.540
the peasant's wife i'll go with the peasant probably smart choice on that one unless you'd like to
05:18:05.940
get beheaded or divorced or syphilis or die of natural causes okay anyways um all right what about
05:18:14.260
you a king king's mistress yeah probably a peasant's wife the who what peasant's wife yeah peasant's
05:18:30.340
wife peasant's wife peasant's wife peasant's wife peasant's wife word okay rapid fire questions who
05:18:37.780
is the primary victim of war men or women i'm sorry what was that what was the question
05:18:42.340
uh who's the primary victim of war men or women oh i think men okay men i would say men but they
05:18:53.460
definitely do um go in villages and kill women and children too but i feel like men get killed the
05:19:00.500
most can i say both you have to pick one men men men men men men okay well that's
05:19:12.420
simple uh are men or women physically stronger i'm sorry we have to ask this because one girl said
05:19:19.460
not she it we had the three-hour debate so we have to ask this question now men men men men men
05:19:34.260
can you be sexist towards men yes i am you are whoa okay she left she said the quiet part out loud
05:19:47.780
um you're you're sexist towards men yes why is that i don't really feel the need to not be
05:19:56.740
you don't feel that's not a really great reason but it's the truth i i mean that's my answer hey are
05:20:04.980
you a are you a man hater no i don't hate all men i actually know a lot of amazing men but do i
05:20:11.300
uh not enjoy the majority of them absolutely okay so you're you i love like there's a lot of amazing
05:20:17.620
men and i don't think all men cheat like i'm not one of those people that think everything's black and
05:20:21.860
white okay yeah you can be sexist towards a man yes i should add and are you that's a good i've been
05:20:31.060
from now on when i ask this question i'm gonna add and are you am i yeah uh probably oh okay all right
05:20:38.020
interesting all right yes let me just write that to my notes and are you okay all right yeah i would
05:20:46.820
say yes yes you are yes you can be sexist towards men and you are sexist towards men i i would say i
05:20:53.860
could be sexist towards men okay yes and yes damn okay not like you know yeah go ahead yes you can
05:21:02.020
and no i am not yes and i really try not to be but you are it's okay but sometimes sometimes we get
05:21:10.420
it's only sometimes what's the most sexist tell us tell us tell us about this
05:21:18.420
just in certain situations also i feel like being surrounded by a bunch of college guys specifically
05:21:24.900
ucsb sometimes it's a little hard not to be but i really try not to be wow i love the honesty wait so
05:21:34.180
like the frat boys yes are you in a sorority no ever been in the sword no okay okay all right what
05:21:43.140
about you yes and i don't know i think men should be providers and take out the trash and stuff but
05:21:51.060
so sexist that is sexist yes ah okay alicia what about you uh yes you can be and no i'm not
05:21:58.740
um all right can you be one of the viewers asked me i this isn't from me this is one of
05:22:05.700
the viewers and i'm doing him a favor he wanted me to ask this um can you be racist towards white
05:22:10.500
people starting with you um and are you racist towards white people i feel like i am i mean i'm white
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but i'm just like every time every time i see white people doing some white people shouldn't like
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damn that's what that's that's why they're mad you can't you know they have the reasons wow okay oh
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wow okay what about you can you be racist towards white people yeah yeah but i don't i don't think
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i'm racist towards white people okay all right what about you i don't feel like you really could i
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feel like you could pass judgment okay but so like prejudice plus power yeah yeah but i don't
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think racist and i was saying what about you yes i think you can okay yes you can yeah you can
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yes yes okay all right why do i i don't know why it's it's the chat that wants me to ask these
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questions i don't know what the deal is um do we oh do we live in the patriarchy going back to the
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feminist stuff did we go around the table i think on the who's feminist i think it was kind of kind
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of you you and you maybe a little bit wait no and you too feminist i didn't say i was here oh well
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okay forget the feminist question but are you no okay do we live in a patriarchy yes yes yes
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yes no no we don't those of you who said yes under this patriarchy are women oppressed you got you
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got this brooklyn yes i think both are oppressed under the patriarchy both men and women yes okay
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yes but simultaneously i feel like they're more liberated as well more liberty like women have
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more freedom okay women have more freedom both and then i think you said there's a patriarchy yeah
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are women oppressed oppressed under the patriarchy yes but i also think it's getting better it's getting
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better slowly but i think it's the patriarchy is still an over-looming thing and people still follow
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a lot of it a lot of people still got it so starting with you again you said women are oppressed
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are you oppressed since you're a woman i think in some cases yeah but not others okay what about you
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are you oppressed no i can't think off the top of my head to be honest well maybe you can't think of
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any examples but do you think that you are oppressed as a woman a small dose small dosages okay i don't
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think that the oppression happens on the basis like because you are a woman or because you are a man i
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think it's just just because okay as a human got it what about you are you oppressed how are you oppressed
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um i can just like think of little things but like um like if it's just us like if it's me and
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a girlfriend like going somewhere then like someone has said before like oh like you need a man to come
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with you and we're like no we don't we're fine like we're eight or over eight the age of 18 like we don't
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need a man to like supervise us that's just like one example that comes to mind but it's just certain
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things also like i think men can put be put in power sooner than i can or like people have more
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faith i've seen like cases where people have more trust in men than the power that i can have people
05:25:54.820
have more trust in men then like of like the power they can like do in the task than what i could do
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like if that makes sense what if it's like lifting something heavy i can still do it can the man do it
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better than you no well if they're stronger and if it's really heavy then maybe and if they are
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stronger it's very situational but i can also do it all right sure uh so those are the examples of you
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being oppressed as yeah it's there i know they're very minimal examples but yeah how are you oppressed
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brooklyn tell us wait i want to go back to the racist thing wait let's do the press thing then we'll
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come back to the racist uh i just think yeah i think men naturally just like socially have a lot
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more power and um they're taken more seriously and i can think like one example off the top of my head
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one time i couldn't get into some like it was a really it's a really long story so i don't want to
05:26:51.300
get into it too much wait you can't get into a nightclub no no it wasn't a nightclub no i was just like at
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an event and um they're basically like oh like you don't have this certain type of ticket you can't
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go and i'm like what i do have it i did have it it was just like dropped and someone else scanned it but
05:27:09.300
i had you know the credit card i bought it with everything you know and not even or like an hour
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later the my ex comes and then he's just like what's up like what's the problem instantly
05:27:27.380
you know we get in and i just think men just hold so much more power men are taking so much more
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seriously than women so it's like i'm just confused how you could tell me no no no i have my credit card
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i have the ticket i have everything off the website and it's a no but the second a man comes up it's yes
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sir yes boss literally yes king like what what that's how it goes yeah what that's how it goes
05:27:55.460
that's how it goes yeah men love to really just they go hard for other men so well actually they i
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mean they've done studies and they found that actually so women have a very strong a modestly
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strong in-group bias for other women and then they found that men actually have an out-group bias
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i'm probably that probably doesn't mean anything to you guys but there this study was done
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and it does exist and it did find precisely what i just stated okay well yeah and it is available
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on the internet okay but back to the racist thing really quick oh i don't think you could be this
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is very contradicting but i'm still gonna say it i don't think say that i don't think say with your
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chest i don't think because i didn't answer the first part i just said i was like when i see you
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you know you're racist i was saying when i see white people doing certain things that's like white people
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shit isn't that a movie i see white people oh wait i see what was that movie i see dead people
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i see dead people but then they said i see white people i don't know okay but i'm just saying like
05:29:06.740
i don't think you know i'm not saying like oh uh like someone that's not white is going to be racist
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to a white person i'm just saying i am i'll be seeing why they get so upset with us wait so what's
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the thing about the that's just because i didn't answer i only answered the second part because
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you're like are you and i never said my answer to the first part oh so your answer the first part
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was yes you can be racist no no i'm saying no but i am like no you can't be racist towards white
05:29:35.060
people but yes i'm racist but i'm white but you're a white girl yeah and you're racist towards
05:29:40.180
other white people i can be can be or i guess past judgment or whatever but i just i just never
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answered your first part so wait okay uh do you do you think okay related to this then since we're
05:29:50.900
going back here do you think white people have culture have culture have culture
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like when i think of white people culture i think of hot dogs honestly i'm not like that's
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just when i think like oh what's the culture you don't think of like europe i mean that's not my
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first thought that's not my first thing of mozart son that's not you don't think of bach
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you don't think of mendelssohn i think of like shakes we need a little dark age
05:30:19.460
box macaroni and cheese and hot dogs italian cuisine and just can't wait for the fourth
05:30:26.340
of july to dress like american what about italian cuisine what about french cuisine french cuisine
05:30:32.900
i i went to france for a month and i the mona lisa
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that's just not my first size you asked what i thought about that that's not my first
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i think of box mac and cheese i think of craft box max mac and cheese and some weenies and i think
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of the fourth of july and people can't wait to wear an american flag as an outfit
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he's dope is that did somebody say chopin's dope okay he's really good
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oh yeah i was just answering your first ballet over here oh nutcracker
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tchaikovsky yeah oh what's what's his other banger what's that what's the other banger from
05:31:15.940
tchaikovsky there's uh swan lake oh was that him swan lake the flute the nutcracker swan lake
05:31:22.900
those are just not my first stravinsky stravinsky very another russian like composer stravinsky very
05:31:30.100
good uh what's what's the right the right what's no i think of uh when that lady said the guacamole
05:31:36.180
guacamole was too spicy let me talk to you about missorgsky missorgsky now he had really fantastic
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compositions there night on bald or bear mountain speaking of bald night on bald mountain it was in
05:31:50.660
fantasia fantastic composition shout out to fantasia shout out fantasia what's up so those are my answers
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are you more of a like a baroque are you more into the baroque period or are you more like romantic
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yeah so you know which which of the uh box cello suites are your favorite
05:32:25.860
i'm partial to his uh his third cello suite movement too or yeah
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i'm gonna have my girl des read this what's up des go ahead hey brian i had a question for you where's
05:32:49.780
the clitoris on a website it says at the crest of the how do you say that labia labia
05:32:57.620
what does that mean what does the female vagina look like also for the ladies would you date a
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beet farmer that's looking for love in all the wrong places for a for real
05:33:13.780
it's like at the top you know ladies show of hands would you date a beet farmer just show of hands
05:33:19.860
it's like dwight from the office dwight from the office nice okay thank you jess so though
05:33:27.380
sorry it took us forever to get to your super chat um how much would the man have to make after
05:33:31.940
taxes for them to date you starting with you go ahead i don't have a certain uh
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i don't have a number that i'd put on a man to date him like to be willing to date him i just need a
05:33:43.940
man with a plan she needs a man with a plan okay how much does drake make
05:33:51.700
what about you more than enough after taxes what was it what was the name of the super chatter
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did anyone catch it sorry i forgot i was gonna anybody okay i would say i don't care
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i would say kind of bounce off of the man with the plan i would prefer a man to do well for himself
05:34:10.740
and have some extra left over because if you're barely scraping by then i feel like
05:34:15.700
you don't really have the means to be dating beautiful yeah what about you does it's more of a
05:34:20.820
plan it's not like a number word you know that you gotta shoot for uh around 40 000 and if he wants
05:34:28.500
me to stay home double that okay um yeah kind of plan thing and like it doesn't really matter if i
05:34:36.820
really like this person or if i'm in love like i feel like money doesn't have a value on that
05:34:41.860
relationship i haven't really thought about it in like a sense of crunching numbers so probably about
05:34:50.180
the same just a plan and go from there i don't have a preference oh okay yeah oh we should have done
05:35:00.580
that yeah guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever guys it's been 18 minutes since we've had prime i'm
05:35:06.260
pretty sure it's bugged our stream's been bugging out no idea we've been having lag issues drops a
05:35:12.740
fall on the prime sub if you have one nickelodeon says blondie you don't need a man when you and your
05:35:17.220
friends are stumbling down the strip drunk if not i never want to hear women like you playing victim
05:35:22.420
because a drunk guy went okay grabbed your booty i guess i'm confused because she's he's he's trying to
05:35:32.340
like say she needs a man because thank you tama yeah thank you tama for the gifted five subs okay we
05:35:41.460
were gonna get into uh nick we're gonna start pulling on more clips while i do that uh alicia you said that
05:35:51.780
nick get the next clip going from something for that ass
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yes something for that ass these girls are going to be the next to call her daddy
05:36:03.460
but more vulgar more vulgar more vulgar ah damn okay but what huh but what
05:36:14.580
i think listen just a little feedback you you open brooklyn you open the little feedback is the
05:36:20.100
brooklyn bridge is it open yes to feedback i think you're right on the precipice of breakthrough
05:36:26.900
i think the one thing holding you back your earrings are a bit too big really you gotta
05:36:32.100
downgrade the earrings and then you're gonna be fucking oh my god i didn't that was like a you're
05:36:39.220
gonna be on upwards trajectory my earrings get me so much engagement though oh i'm just saying i feel
05:36:46.260
like that's what's holding you back i don't think anyone can bully me out of wearing these i'm not
05:36:50.980
trying i'm not i'm not no but that's what they try to do but i look at it as engagement they think
05:36:55.220
it's like oh i just i just made the most clever joke in the world the bigger the hoop the bigger the
05:37:00.420
you know like wow you know did you ever play star fox 64. no like you would have to fly through like
05:37:08.260
the i could put like you could too you could put both your fists through there yeah i just when i see
05:37:14.100
them i think like but i don't think that's the problem fly through okay alicia said hot take
05:37:19.780
feminists have no game slash riz yeah um and i say that non-judgmentally i say that experientially
05:37:27.300
thank you ab check when i was a feminist i because i believe if you're a feminist a core tenant is you
05:37:33.140
believe in oppression therefore you're automatically going to have this like adversarial dynamic with men
05:37:39.380
you're also going to have a combative uh nature with men because you think you're his equal and
05:37:45.060
those are just things that i notice are major boner killers for sure and yeah what else did i have to
05:37:54.820
say about that major also when i see with the bowing for your uh thing the girls are always acting like
05:38:03.700
oh my god it's so degrading and they just have no playful nature like feminists you i say this with
05:38:12.500
love again i'm not judgmenting i'm not being judgmental but we've just kind of lost a playful
05:38:18.180
nature with men because we just constantly think men are trying to do these like little things to harm us
05:38:25.060
and i just feel like now in retrospect i realize that it was the furthest from the truth with most
05:38:30.340
most men i've ever engaged in most men had really good intentions with me um so yeah i just think
05:38:37.620
women should be a little bit more playful because you're not oppressed i'm sorry you're not oppressed
05:38:43.060
um yeah okay uh nick let's get into the clips please let's get into the clips go ahead
05:38:54.740
we're gonna we have to only limit it to like two minutes of commentary per because there's a lot
05:38:59.380
that's why i'm celibate because it makes my mind clear because if i get some dick i'm wondering
05:39:03.060
what's you doing where you at who you with drop the location that's why i'm celibate because we'll
05:39:09.540
let it play one more time it makes my mind clear because if i get some dick i'm wanting what you
05:39:14.020
do and where you at who you which drop the location wait pause that's why i'm so wait but i'm confused
05:39:20.500
aren't you you said you're celibate right but like you said if I get some dick so if I were to
05:39:29.200
you must have had that experience of getting dick yes I'm not a virgin no I'm not well that's not
05:39:35.220
what I'm so I'm saying that's why I'm celibate because I like a peace of mind because if you
05:39:40.540
are in my coochie I'm gonna be in your business if a guy's in your coochie you're in the business
05:39:47.340
I'm in his business you're in his business yeah okay I feel like I have the right to ask those
05:39:53.160
questions if we're having sex because I'm not just gonna have sex with anyone okay next
05:39:59.500
he's pulling it up he's getting it ready boys next clip he's almost got I abstain from sex because I
05:40:12.100
don't lay down with men I wouldn't want to be the father of my children I don't lay down with men
05:40:16.620
that are emotionally unavailable I don't lay down with men who don't just straight up respect and
05:40:23.800
value my time and me as a person I mean either way you guys are gonna be mad because I'm gonna
05:40:28.840
continue to use my platform to inspire women to keep their legs closed until they find someone
05:40:36.300
that's really worth laying down with and doing such a vulnerable act with I abstain from sex because I
05:40:43.560
don't lay down with men I wouldn't want to be the father of my children I don't well this kind of I
05:40:48.600
mean this I perhaps goes back to our conversation about like men being p words for wanting virgins
05:40:55.580
I'm glad we only have five minutes to talk about this I mean I these are it's just it's just look we
05:41:03.520
already talked about it but it's just another video where it's like on one hand you're advocating
05:41:06.940
women abstain from sex don't have sex ergo you're gonna have a low body count or you might even be a
05:41:12.720
virgin but also men bad for wanting virgins no I'm just telling women I'm just trying to encourage
05:41:20.780
them to be smart because I think a lot of the times I think all women can admit if they lay down
05:41:24.800
everyone if they did a list of every single guy they been with maybe not every single woman that's I
05:41:32.040
can't put everyone in a box but if you were to make a list of all the guys you've ever been with
05:41:35.620
how many of those were one deserving and two were you enthusiastic to actually sleeping with going
05:41:41.700
back to what she was saying being in a room with a man I understand like how she's saying there's a
05:41:45.760
power struggle because a lot of men get sex because they're just keep like come on come on come on
05:41:50.040
and even though maybe it's not the r word but it's just you're not getting a yes the first time
05:41:55.140
you're not getting an enthusiastic response you're just yeah it's really it's really weird though
05:42:00.500
because like I agree with your messaging here right but I don't agree with the conclusion that's
05:42:08.060
that like that's where we're getting we're getting hung up but like your message is women you said in
05:42:13.500
this clip ladies keep your legs closed right yeah it seems like it's yeah that seems like a good
05:42:18.840
message but if they're keeping their legs closed then they're not having sex with men they're not
05:42:23.760
having sex with men they're going to have very low body counts they have very low body counts
05:42:27.760
than men are going to now if all women followed your advice in other words let's try it this way
05:42:31.880
if all women followed your advice all women would have way way way lower body counts right
05:42:39.600
and so all so then all of the men who are attracted to all of those women would be
05:42:46.000
pdf I think it's more so just like I've heard because a lot of people assume based off my videos
05:42:51.920
oh since you speak like this you must you know been ranthing you must have 100 bodies you must do this
05:42:56.260
and that and that's just not my personal experience you know but I'm trying to encourage women that
05:43:02.060
maybe have been more I guess sexually liberated however you want to put it I'm just encouraging them
05:43:09.140
maybe because I don't see a lot of I what comes up on my feet maybe it's just because I'm I don't know
05:43:16.760
aren't you encouraging all women to do this yes I'm encouraging all women to do this but I'm saying
05:43:21.280
you know even if even if say a woman has 100 bodies maybe from this point forward start making
05:43:27.920
better decisions yeah no I get that I agree with that but you're also encouraging women who have
05:43:33.820
zero bodies to also keep their legs closed unless it's for the right guy correct correct but I'm but
05:43:40.620
my thing is regardless if a woman has 100 or zero I don't think that I don't think the one with zero
05:43:46.600
holds more value than the one with 100 that's just yeah yeah but the thing is is like that's
05:43:51.120
not even what I'm saying whether or not you think they hold more value or not from a man's perspective
05:43:55.980
they could to the man okay right you agree with that yes so if to the man's perspective they hold
05:44:03.680
more value because they're virgins what in the fucking world could be wrong with that I was just like I
05:44:11.960
said it's gonna keep going in a circle but I was just responding to the hundreds and hundreds of
05:44:17.700
comments of men telling me because I'm spreading a message saying ladies don't give it up and they're
05:44:24.580
telling me you know what you have no room to speak because you're not a virgin really I don't I don't
05:44:29.460
I shouldn't yeah I'm sure that there's plenty of djins because yeah yeah I've had sex I'm sure
05:44:33.660
that's that's why I said what I said yeah I know but it's just be quiet because I get it I get I get
05:44:41.300
what you're saying I agree with the heart of the message I really do okay I just don't really agree
05:44:47.300
with the conclusion that this means that men are bad if they're attracted to women with with lower
05:44:52.320
body counts or if they want if they desire that it's not about being attracted it's about telling a
05:44:56.620
woman she has no value if she's not a virgin you're not what if they don't have any value to you if
05:45:01.580
they're not what if they don't have any value well then I mean you know I there's nothing I can
05:45:09.240
really say on that I feel like I said my piece but I'm just saying you know that's that's fine you
05:45:14.780
want I just think it's weird I do I must still stand by the fact that I think it's weird that a man
05:45:20.200
could sleep with over a hundred women and then he wants a virgin I think he only said what if he slept
05:45:25.180
with a hundred women and they were all virgins based well I think I think one of those hundreds
05:45:31.000
is lying okay well what if he slept with 30 and they were all virgins and he knew for sure that
05:45:37.740
all of them were telling the truth would he be in the clear then I mean some men there's got to be
05:45:46.420
some man who has sex with these women the first time right I mean that's gonna happen of course but
05:45:52.460
it seems it seems like kind of your only argument is like but he shouldn't only want to and that's
05:45:57.940
what I that's I guess where all the confusion is for everybody is like um why not though because
05:46:03.560
somebody somebody's gonna have sex with them too and whether they're married or not in order to
05:46:09.640
take care of this uh you know virginity thing right that's that's going to happen yes so if there's men
05:46:16.260
who that's all that's what they desire I don't I don't actually understand why that's problematic
05:46:21.320
that's that's the thing that is bizarre about it yeah well I just I can't take back what I said I
05:46:27.340
can't I well you don't have to take it back but can't you can't you can't you either can't you just
05:46:32.960
kind of modify the position so it makes more sense like maybe the position could be this could be I
05:46:38.020
understand that there are men who value a lower body count and value virginity and chastity and women
05:46:45.560
and there's nothing wrong with that and my advice is just across the board that the less promiscuous
05:46:51.500
you are the better the outcomes are that's just adjusting the position that's not even that's not
05:46:56.360
even really taking back what you said it's just adjusting the position so it makes sense right
05:47:00.120
yes but I still believe that maybe I overgeneralize but I still believe there are a good amount of men
05:47:08.660
women that are pushing p what the fuck yeah I think there's a good amount of women who do that
05:47:15.200
too and I agree I agree with that yeah I know so I mean if that's the case then then I it's the
05:47:21.060
correlate that's the problem I think that most most men value chastity in women I think that that's a
05:47:27.180
super valuable thing you clearly do too that's why you tell women to be chaste because it's value
05:47:31.820
the sexual intercourse valuable right yes yeah so I mean if that's the case then it seems like
05:47:38.260
you're in total agreement that men value it and women have the gate keep key to it and so it's
05:47:44.560
super valuable so don't just give it away right men are saying the same thing because they value it
05:47:50.020
it's like I you can you can reconcile these positions so easily by just saying it's okay
05:47:55.240
it's okay to value that I'm not I don't think it's wrong to value I'm not but men are not under the
05:48:01.700
comments saying oh I just like really value a woman that they're not talking like that so
05:48:07.840
yeah but they might not express themselves really well maybe I'm not expressing myself
05:48:12.760
and then I agree I think you're not and that's why I'm trying to help the position because I agree
05:48:16.760
with the heart of what you're saying right that's why I'm like if you could just modify the position
05:48:21.740
slightly uh it would suddenly make a lot more sense to everybody and I think that that's basically
05:48:26.920
what you believe you think that sex is valuable it's a valuable tool for women they're the gatekeepers
05:48:31.820
to the sex men value women with lower body counts so they're going to value you more if you're not
05:48:37.060
giving them sex that totally makes sense to me it's just like all you have to do to kind of drive it
05:48:43.780
home to to get across that finish line is saying it's perfectly okay if men value women with low body
05:48:50.480
counts or virginity that's that just makes total sense okay wait so just to be clear are men p words for
05:48:59.800
preferring women who are virgins not all but I don't know if she's I just still think but my stance
05:49:08.460
is still there are p word men and they say that yes there are p word those they make those type of
05:49:15.560
comments because they were eager to tell on themselves in the comment section so I mean okay
05:49:20.120
well let me let me just rephrase just real quick but no no not all men are are pushing p because they
05:49:26.360
value low body counts or virgins but it gives you p word no not every I and I understand even when a
05:49:33.960
man is dealing with me like a lot of men that's why too I don't really date because I'm not trying
05:49:38.280
to you know like toot my own horn but I feel like anytime I've tried to talk to a guy just to be on
05:49:42.840
some like you know friends I'm not really I just got out of a relationship I'm not looking for a
05:49:48.020
serious anything um I'm not even sure if I want to take it to the next level of having sex or anything
05:49:53.420
I just think that it's like you only want oh I guess uh it's just I feel like I understand that
05:50:02.800
they want to I guess wife me because they're think oh well you were an eight-year relationship
05:50:07.940
you have a low body count Andrew your your question and then I do have to move it on go ahead
05:50:12.340
okay just very quickly you would agree with me that all dogs have tails right yes okay does that
05:50:21.120
mean that all animals with tails are dogs no okay great so then we can agree that some men are p words
05:50:30.240
right yes and I agree that not all men are I that was a blanket statement and I shouldn't have
05:50:35.860
generalized it so much but I do think there still are men I do feel like the men that but there are
05:50:42.180
but there are dogs right and this is this is the same type of argument that's why I'm saying is
05:50:46.340
like look I'm just saying that if you if you agree that men it's perfectly reasonable for men to desire
05:50:52.380
virgins or women with low body count I think that that reconciles the entire position you know you
05:50:57.520
have to explain it anymore like I think you just get overwhelming agreement from people that's all
05:51:10.220
next person that I'm gonna be with is gonna be the father of my children's gonna be my husband
05:51:18.640
wait no I'm sorry if he's gonna be my husband and then he's gonna be the father of my children
05:51:22.120
in that order because I'm definitely not popping out no babies without no ring the next person that
05:51:27.660
wait so you are you're waiting until marriage then to have sex no that's your standard I was
05:51:33.420
saying I wouldn't have someone's baby if they weren't my husband wait but didn't you say hold
05:51:41.340
on play it one more time Nick I'm gonna be with is gonna be the father of my children's gonna be my
05:51:52.060
husband wait no I'm sorry if he's gonna be my husband and then he's gonna be the father of my
05:51:55.660
daughter and that okay okay because okay so I'm just saying I wouldn't give a man a child without
05:52:01.340
a ring okay sure so and that's another require you have to remember these are like 10 15 second
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videos so when I did the requirement thing everybody everyone was like what about being a
05:52:11.880
wife what about being a wife I've already talked about that I'm not gonna make a repetitive
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do honestly believe that raw sex is only for a man that's gonna be your husband so do what you want
05:52:26.820
with that information I do honest oh I still stand on that you have you ever had
05:52:32.700
raw sex yeah with my uh boyfriend of eight years and I definitely thought I was gonna you know we were
05:52:41.480
gonna be married and I heard your voice in the background I think on that clip you seem to concur
05:52:47.060
with her ever had raw sex yes but are you waiting until marriage to have raw sex ideally and then you
05:52:58.660
said that and that's the clip right you're waiting until marriage well I'm not well yeah for raw I feel
05:53:03.640
like raw sex well I guess I could see how it's contradicting because I said for a man that's going to be
05:53:10.480
and everyone was very much oh like going to be he's not though but I'm just saying more like it would
05:53:15.880
have to be such a serious relationship where I truly believe that it's only us dealing with each
05:53:21.700
other because you could be dating someone and you know for how you say like if you sleep with a woman
05:53:27.340
that you're not gonna just sleep with a woman one time but are you looking at every woman like oh
05:53:31.820
that's gonna be my wife no you're not you're just like oh I'm gonna I'm gonna keep you around for a
05:53:39.860
I personally don't believe in friends with benefits if you're piping me down and you're
05:53:48.420
being a good friend to me we go together you're my man that's true like that's it how are we gonna
05:53:53.400
be friends and be fucking and not be together like I personally let it play let it play we don't believe
05:54:00.520
in friends with benefits if you're piping me down and you're being you're being a good friend to me
05:54:04.340
just here's where I get a little I raise an eyebrow like the the sort of language you use
05:54:11.680
like you're saying like piping me down dick game is whack what was the what was the other thing in
05:54:20.420
the most recent thing that was me uh you said dick game is whack you said piping me down there's one
05:54:25.500
other thing that you said that's kind of like is this really the language of women who are
05:54:33.080
celibate I feel like my whole brand is that my whole like thing is that having sex appeal can
05:54:41.660
coexist with being celibate because a lot of people look at me and they just make assumptions based on
05:54:46.700
how I dress how I post how I look and they try to discredit me but I'm here to say you could wear
05:54:52.860
whatever and you could you know you could you two things could be true at once well we have a clip
05:54:59.820
to react to on that but two things can be true at once yeah I feel like I could be just like I could
05:55:07.020
express my wholeness in ways that are not through sex like dressing dressing a certain way or yeah I
05:55:14.720
post a certain way I dress a certain way I like to be false advertisement maybe that's false she likes to
05:55:19.600
be false advertisement because I feel like guys would look at me and be like oh yeah that girl
05:55:24.100
would be a good time that'd be easy to fuck but wouldn't like so but men won't believe that you're
05:55:28.860
not gonna fuck until you don't fuck them but wouldn't it be better to like if you're trying to get the type
05:55:37.660
guy who I mean I guess guys are desperate for pussy they'll just wait around I guess but wouldn't the type
05:55:47.420
guy that'd be more open to you know pursuing something serious more traditional type of guy
05:55:53.040
it sounds kind of like that's the kind of guy you want wouldn't the approach be to be a bit more modest
05:55:59.880
yes and that's why I said earlier I keep meeting the same type of man and that's why I don't date it's
05:56:05.980
because I will eventually have to you know I'm in my 20s right now so I dress like I'm in my 20s when
05:56:11.600
I'm in my 30s I'll dress like I'm in my 30s if I was a mother I would act and post as if I was a
05:56:18.200
mother but I'm not I'm okay that's just my stance on it and I don't think I mean not saying that I
05:56:25.040
change it up for the podcast but I do think it gets as much attention as it does because I you know
05:56:31.840
have a certain type of page and then I say certain things and people are just like what the fuck's going
05:56:41.360
talking about dressing conservative for your man you should be able to wear whatever you want
05:56:50.680
don't date a fashion police take people as they are you shouldn't want to change them if they're
05:56:55.020
dressing a certain way it doesn't mean they're going to cheat on you talking about dressing
05:56:58.240
conservative for your okay okay so like you guys uh have objections to men wanting women
05:57:05.740
can I speak on that yeah go ahead so that was another recap and roast and I had brought up my
05:57:12.560
ex who was very controlling and no matter like how I proved my loyalty I didn't have social media
05:57:19.180
I dressed like jeans and a shirt like I never wore dresses like he was very controlling he still
05:57:24.940
cheated so you could you could do all the right things for a man but that isn't going to prevent
05:57:29.940
them from cheating and so the solution is to just the solution is to do you and just do hood rat shit
05:57:39.640
on instrument just find someone that's more accepting and why that'd be like uh us doing bottle service and
05:57:46.620
then people meet us at a club and they're like mad that we're doing bottle service you met us here
05:57:51.700
exactly why are you mad why are you trying to punish me literally wait punish you for what
05:57:58.300
because like she was in a relationship dead ass where she couldn't wear like leggings couldn't ever
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step outside without a bra this and that she did all this to show a man hey like I'm a good woman
05:58:12.840
and then where did that get her cheating on and she's not the only not this girl with the most unique
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story in the world it happens all the time exactly yeah but do you think that relationship should be
05:58:24.080
built around respect of course so I think there has to if you want me to respect you in a way of
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you want me to make sure I have a bra and every time I step outside okay how about you respect me by
05:58:35.140
keeping your dick in your pants yeah no I get it right you don't want to hang on hang on you don't
05:58:41.120
want the the guy to go out and cheat I understand that part of it but that's not really what was said
05:58:46.540
here what was said here was that um women should should dress however they want if your man wants
05:58:53.040
you to dress conservatively uh you shouldn't do that but if you agree that relationships are built
05:58:58.700
around respect if why why would any self-respecting man want their woman to walk around looking like
05:59:04.660
a prostitute that doesn't sound like uh there's any any self-respect there or that you have much
05:59:10.000
respect for them at all well I feel like if you're serious with someone they can express how that
05:59:18.860
feels and I feel like relationships are about coming to a mutual agreement and making compromises so
05:59:25.640
I might dress like a hoochie today but if I get serious with someone which I haven't for years
05:59:31.560
then I'm open to compromise well then why would you give women the advice if their man wants them to
05:59:40.280
dress conservatively not to do that when you just right now said if your man asked you to dress
05:59:45.700
conservatively you might do that I think I said it too broadly honestly I was more talking about like
05:59:54.320
the talking stage not being serious but if you're serious with a man that's your long-term boyfriend
05:59:59.920
and that's your husband I can understand that but if you're just getting to know somebody
06:00:03.380
yeah but wouldn't that also be counterintuitive like if you go on two dates with a guy let's say
06:00:09.900
and you like him and he likes you back and he says hey you know look um if you want this to turn into
06:00:16.060
something I really don't want you to look promiscuous and like you're being inviting towards other men
06:00:21.580
it doesn't seem very respectful towards me and in exchange for that you know I'll limit the amount
06:00:27.780
of women that I have around me so that we can move towards something more exclusive
06:00:37.160
what did I miss it was good it was a good talk it was good it was a good one
06:00:46.560
was it an and was it a clip it and ship it boys clip it and ship it clip it and ship it okay
06:00:53.120
uh next clip por favor wait actually oh god wait you know what we should do I feel like we should
06:01:02.740
pull up their instagrams okay oh nick he's on it he's on it boys he's on it I think that video is
06:01:19.980
talking like similar things huh oh when they're so talking about a lot of things if you know what
06:01:27.660
I mean I'll tell you what one time I was back in the on the farm and I was having a bad makeup day
06:01:37.680
that day so I was I put your I put your costume on and I felt all like emo and I put darker makeup on
06:01:46.040
you still got that Eeyore costume or what's up yeah I do you got it somewhere we'd love to have
06:01:51.640
you back on the podcast but you gotta wear that costume that'd be fire really the Eeyore Eeyore
06:01:57.080
costume okay we don't outfit repeat what what's that what's that song from Winnie the Pooh what how's
06:02:03.560
it go hundred acre woods thousand acres is it a hundred acres or a thousand acres
06:02:15.460
Nick can you do we have the IGs we got there's love her podcast something for that ass okay I guess
06:02:27.640
we can scroll is it is this wait I need to pull this up yeah just just just check make sure there's
06:02:32.660
nothing like crazy on there we gotta make sure there's no crazy shit
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wait actually I think I have two links here I'm gonna send it in private chat
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and then wait well actually question before we do this I'm just going around the table do you
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consider yourself traditional or modern or not traditional do you consider yourself do you
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consider yourself a traditional woman go ahead no no no no oh okay nope no no trying to be
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damn okay all right well I don't know if I can really make this argument then I was just gonna say
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like like Brooklyn there's it's here's where I'm confused because you're like man the guy's got to
06:03:22.860
wait and do all this shit and I'm gonna abstain and no raw sex and like all this shit and I'm like
06:03:28.920
there's there's videos of you twerking on your Instagram and I'm like that's confusing as a guy
06:03:34.160
bro I'm like bro she's she's like twerking on her IG but I'm waiting six months to give you some
06:03:42.360
pussy like that's confused that confuses the dudes bruv yeah and I feel like my stances wait Brooklyn
06:03:48.140
but just say do you feel me do you feel me though it's not my response say you feel me I feel you thank
06:03:53.000
you go ahead I just don't feel like it's a desire of mine to be not confusing to a man I just I don't
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even care about dating I'm not worried about I'm not trying to be someone's wife right now I'm trying
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to be single I've given my life to a man before I love sleeping on both sides of my bed I love not
06:04:13.440
answering to someone I love not having to fucking make a bunch of food all the time clean up after
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someone I love it so what do I care if they don't like the way I dress the way I talk the way I act
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what do I care one day I'll clean up one day I'll archive all of it I'll clean up my act clean it all
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up I'll clean up my act and then maybe not all of it not all of it not too much but I mean yes I have a
06:04:38.040
when you when you do decide to clean it all up if you had to count the amount of cats you think
06:04:42.660
you're gonna have how many would that be how many catches cats cats by the time you clean it all up
06:04:49.460
I'm allergic to cats so zero she's a reptile type of chick is it gonna be a little purse dog
06:04:57.400
do you like the little purse dog yeah I have one with my ex you do is it is it a chihuahua or
06:05:03.420
she's like three pounds what's that it's a York she's a Yorkie three pounds yeah yeah good times
06:05:12.320
she gives those vibes yeah there's there's definitely either a purse dog or some cats for
06:05:18.620
sure yeah and animals are great yeah yeah I don't know that's really weird though I thought you're a
06:05:24.640
vegan why are you imprisoning a dog like that rude that's uh that's a kind of psychopathic behavior
06:05:31.800
from a vegan I'm just uh you know you're imprisoning uh somebody who you give human rights to I don't
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I don't know why you would do that how could you do that Brooklyn uh a Yorkie couldn't survive in the
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wild yeah they can't she would die first thing she would get eaten she'd be a snack she wouldn't even
06:05:48.720
be a meal she'd be a snack well wait wait so let me ask you a question has your Yorkie ever run off
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no it's never run off even one time she is like a Yorkie has never run off really
06:06:01.400
right isn't Penelope like super loyal like she's obedient she's like like you've never opened the
06:06:08.140
door and the dogs run out the door she might go like in front but she's not ever like running all
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the way off she just runs like oh let's go outside you know but she's safe does the dog go outside and
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it's sniffing around and it doesn't want you to bother it and you go and you bother it anyway you pick
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it up and you take it back inside yeah I just imprisoning an animal against its will
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psychotic psychotic vegan behavior before you could be a psycho and still be vegan
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before we pull up this next clip I gotta pull up one of these chats Maddie can you read this please
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Brian's 10 is a four foot Asian with big labia I like my women like I like my coffee without
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someone else's pain in it yeah that's actually that is my type yeah oh what okay yeah I mean I date
06:07:06.940
white girls I date white dwarves also can anybody know an Asian dwarf I'm trying to get the hook up you
06:07:13.960
know what I mean okay anyways next clip the huh uh maybe later let's just get through the clips and
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if and how many are there and when they're so crazy about what you wear what you do is because they're
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up to something and they don't want you to be outside because they don't want you to find your
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worth and that more people would treat you better than how they're treating you so they don't want
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you to go outside they know they know so they try to hide you and when there's I guess that's related
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to so like like the whole guys they're trying to hide you I don't want my man to go out and cheat
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that's ridiculous I wanted to instead be set up to go out and meet other men that I can cheat with
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because they're gonna know my real value no I honestly this is one of my more least favorite
06:08:02.340
rails I'm not gonna lie because I feel like I didn't it was my least favorite what I wanted to
06:08:07.020
thanks but what I was talking about in the episode is like a man being very controlling and he will
06:08:15.560
uh project so for example I would always be accused of cheating like I would get my phone look through
06:08:22.220
on the daily all this crazy shit would happen so instead of thinking oh he's on that same type of
06:08:29.660
time I would just go the extra mile to try to prove my loyalty but come to find out with age
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and becoming smarter that he was just projecting because he was up to those things that he's accusing
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me of okay got it next clip go ahead man isn't spending money on you he's not investing in you he
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doesn't like you because a man that really likes you it doesn't even matter if he's rich it's about
06:08:55.720
generosity if he's not wanting to give you what he can and it comes naturally if a man isn't spending
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money on you what's wrong with that questions comments concerns so I mean it sounds like uh it
06:09:14.860
sounds like what you're doing is promoting sexuality for the purposes of having men spend money on you
06:09:20.020
without delivering the return of the um the sex itself is that is that basically the strategy
06:09:36.160
oh I would say you would notice more if a man's if a man likes you because of how he invests in you
06:09:47.180
his time which is something that can never get back and his resources which could be his money
06:09:51.940
so yeah but I mean doesn't that isn't that basically kind of the stereotype of the gold
06:09:57.740
digger which is that they'll allow men to spend a ton of money on them yes uh by promoting their
06:10:03.040
sexuality but then not actually ever give them any sex so it's basically like leading them on in
06:10:08.060
way uh yes I could agree that could come off as gold digger ideology okay so what do you guys think
06:10:19.500
uh like if a guy took you on a romantic date to mcdonald's would you guys be like down we can't eat
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yeah we can't eat anything no we'll get uh uh you can't eat the french fries you can't eat the french
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no they have they got the tallow they have fat and beef tallow that's like the one not anymore they
06:10:36.340
use that vegetable shit now but I don't want to just eat fries I like to eat eat yeah we eat a lot
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of food but we're not we're not the type of women that oh you have to take us to such an extravagant
06:10:46.720
place yeah like when we see that list come out of like oh where I wouldn't let a man take me we
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didn't you didn't you didn't fuck with that not really just because it puts too much pressure
06:10:59.060
that's fair but it's like a man that going back to the video the cheesecake factory I just think like
06:11:05.180
it's like oh if a man straight up doesn't want to feed you at all doesn't want to take you on a date
06:11:08.620
you kind of know like he just kind of is almost embarrassed to be messing with you at that point
06:11:14.460
because I honestly I dealt I dealt with a man that didn't like me and he didn't want to take me out
06:11:20.620
so I feel like would you guys um would you guys date oh sorry go ahead I had I had different
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experiences to compare it to so would you guys date a carnist of someone who only eats meat yeah hell
06:11:35.220
no why not carnist because we won't have the same morality or views I'm open to dating someone who's
06:11:43.640
not vegan but they would have to be an open-minded person like they would have to be down to eat some
06:11:48.100
vegan food because I'm only gonna we're only gonna cook vegan food for our man so I'm not
06:11:52.680
gonna make some meat for you you're gonna have to already know know that I'm not gonna just suddenly
06:11:57.320
change that what if they did it for health reasons then we'll see how that you know works out for them
06:12:03.920
and like Jordan would you would you cook them a big bag of ribs if they were eating for health
06:12:09.460
reasons absolutely no I believe in I believe in herbs so your men are basically just gonna get
06:12:15.620
salads you're just gonna like make them salads with a little bit of potatoes think of it this way
06:12:21.200
think of it this way think of all the recipes you can make with like four or five different animals
06:12:26.700
there's so many recipes you can make using different grains and vegetables there's so much out there and
06:12:34.040
when I first went vegan like seven years ago I found replacement recipes for everything that I used to
06:12:40.560
love so I've never your idea of a perfect date if somebody takes you to a salad bar I mean no not I
06:12:49.780
wouldn't consider that a perfect date but salad bars could be bomb but I wouldn't consider that a
06:12:53.800
perfect thing the way we eat is actually like we have to sometimes get two tables just for our food
06:13:00.180
just with the two of us so that's the thing too because yeah people want to say a whole lot of
06:13:05.500
vegetables in order to keep on sometimes any kind of muscle mass right well this is the thing too
06:13:11.460
because people want to say we're gold diggers but it's like where we do these things for ourselves
06:13:16.680
like we want a lot of food we want these fun experiences like traveling for example but it's not
06:13:23.520
something that we can't do for ourselves when we go out to eat we order a bunch of plates we just came
06:13:28.460
from Miami we took ourselves there so it's not like and do you do you guys run into a lot of
06:13:34.500
attractive vegan men or do you run into more attractive carnage carnage men who eat meat what
06:13:40.560
what is the one that's both where they eat plants and meat like omnivores omnivore I would say omnivores
06:13:46.960
uh yeah so you run into more attractive men who do eat meat um run into yeah but I know that
06:13:57.740
there's really handsome vegan men that are out there yeah I'm sure I know that there's some but
06:14:02.240
like in general right and isn't it like I've always wondered this right because there's not that many
06:14:08.540
women who are who are vegans to be honest with you that uh that I run usually it's men um but I'm just
06:14:15.460
I'm just curious I've seen the quality of men generally who are vegans and they suck like they suck
06:14:24.460
how how the hell do you stand it like how how and what ways like the the pool is so small for vegan
06:14:31.960
men and there's such little dorky nerds I'm like I don't know how anybody stands them I got my ex
06:14:38.140
like you said like she said don't overlook the nerds they got a few tricks up there actually I know a
06:14:43.960
vegan bodybuilder yes yeah listen I do too I know a vegan bodybuilder his name is vegan gains I've
06:14:49.700
debated with multiple times yeah he's a decent enough guy I like I like him personally but he's
06:14:55.480
an exception to the rule there's very few vegan bodybuilders and there's very few vegans who don't
06:15:01.400
look like they're pasty and are about to fall over dead like there's just not that many my I got my ex
06:15:07.480
to go vegan and he's like a big he's a big dude and he's and he stayed even after yeah I feel like
06:15:14.200
he got bigger after he went vegan all right next clip
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feel like a situation ship could work but you really got to be honest with yourself what do you
06:15:28.580
want out of this do you just want a companionship do you want a bill or two alleviated do you want to
06:15:36.220
eventually get in marriage all of those are determining factors you really need to think about
06:15:42.080
what you want so get to know the person get to know their character see how they handle situations
06:15:47.900
and as a person as a person sex aside could you handle this person as a friend if you don't even
06:15:56.080
like who they are as a person you think they're a piece of fucking shit they're not gonna just magically
06:16:01.780
be a great man to you they're gonna be a piece of shit to you and maybe not right away but I promise
06:16:08.740
you is gonna come out so you really gotta see the character of a person before you get involved
06:16:13.400
because you could fuck around and really find out and waste years of your life I promise you
06:16:18.620
I feel like it's a situation wait so what was the thing about paying a bill or two is that like
06:16:24.940
something that happens for you guys like you'll be in a situation ship of the guy well she she actually
06:16:31.560
had an opposing idea for me like I don't think situations can work and she also had another real
06:16:36.680
of like I don't believe in uh friends with benefits and then I kind of brought an opposing
06:16:41.240
idea and why but yeah I would say but are dudes really out there just well when you get into that
06:16:48.660
dating uh there are men that want to alleviate some stresses have you have you had that yeah and
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that's why we don't feel like that yes I don't we don't feel like it's such crazy like back even
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back to the requirements it's like I don't think it's such a crazy request because I've already had my
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face tattoo I don't think it's such a crazy request for someone to spend money because people have
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already spent money so you know it's it's not it's our reality so we're not like so like what what the
06:17:17.020
fuck is that what do you think the chances are that you're gonna find a vegan bodybuilder who you
06:17:22.140
think is really handsome and tatted who's gonna tattoo your face on their stomach in order for you to
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have their children he's what is what percentage of the population do you think that is it's uh probably a
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very small but I do think I'm a very blessed woman all it takes is one Andrew yeah yeah all it takes
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is and I don't need to date I don't need my man to be vegan he just if he wants to eat however he
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wants to eat he's gonna cook whatever animal products he wants to eat and he's going I'm not
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gonna cook it for him but I'll cook him food but I'm not gonna you know but veganism is a moral
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position which is espousing that animals have essentially the same inherent uh moral value as
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human beings do sometimes to uh some kind of mildly lesser degree from some vegans uh but still that's
06:18:11.200
what you're saying so isn't your man basically if you date a guy who is going to eat meat aren't you
06:18:18.000
essentially saying okay go ahead and be immoral and I don't care I just don't think that you could
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push like I don't think you just getting in a relationship with a man that's not vegan and
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being like you have to be vegan and be with me would be a way to get a man to go vegan I think
06:18:34.700
the better way to get a man to go vegan is to show him how good you could eat vegan and show how fit you
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could be and all that and that would be a more persuading way to get your way I gotta move it on I'm
06:18:46.080
sorry I'm sorry this vegan conversation is making me hungry for hamburgers okay uh go ahead uh next
06:18:54.840
little uh little in and out Brian you doing a little in and out little uh little in and out
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something I regret being single is that I've put off a lot of dating and hopes that someone would
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do better and be better don't do that don't sit around and wait for a man don't try to prove
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yourself to a man the moment you start trying to prove yourself to a man and you're like let me
06:19:17.100
show you how good of a girl I am and I just won't won't date anyone else even though I have no title
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from you no ring no commitment no nothing I'm gonna sit I'm gonna be a good girl I'm not gonna go out
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on the dates I'm getting asked out on because I want to prove myself to you you lost I think something
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I regret listen up kings listen up kings in the chat you don't date a girl
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you don't date a girl if she's if she's talking to another guy I don't care if there's no title
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you don't even talk to her you don't even date her she has to only have eyes for you okay know
06:19:56.120
you're worth kings if she's if she even glances at a guy onto the next one she can't even look at
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another dude jokes aside and if she won't cook you meat what the hell good is she like I mean
06:20:12.520
that's my honest take if a woman won't cook you meat I would I would rather drink turpentine and
06:20:18.080
piss on a brush fire than that don't eat ever gets off why do we got to bring turpentine into this
06:20:24.500
what did turpentine ever do to you Andrew well I mean it I guess it didn't do it I think turpentine
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let me look I'm just saying at least for me if we go on the first date it has to be a wrap with
06:20:40.100
the other dudes first date you can't be talking to other dudes on the first date I'm sorry after
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the first date that's my standard like if we go on the first date you want a second date Lena you
06:20:51.800
want a second date Lena you want to call me Leanna Lena but you want to talk about dating me
06:20:57.640
can't see my name right fucking up here just uh nose diving this um okay if you want a second date
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your carnest brain Brian it's terrible yeah if you want a second date their camp it has to be a wrap
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with the other dudes and if I find out that you're like because some girls will be like sleeping with
06:21:19.460
a dude but like dating other dudes if I went on the first date with you and you're fucking other dude
06:21:24.140
it's it's a wrap I don't care how much I liked you I no longer like you but we go on the first date
06:21:30.520
okay fine maybe there's another seven guys in the picture whatever if you're hopefully not sleeping with
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them you want a second date it has to be a wrap with those other dudes I need your exclusive romantic
06:21:45.320
and sexual attention even without the title that's what I you'll get the title quick you'll get the
06:21:52.120
title quick well yeah that's your that's your standard that's my standard I feel like that's what
06:21:58.320
I've always done I've I only know how to be like just hopelessly devoted to one person and I feel
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like that has I know I just feel like that hasn't really worked out in my favor when I say date I don't
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mean sex like I'm just saying you know if a man's if a man's just stringing you along and you're just
06:22:19.280
his placeholder until he gets what he really wants why are you turning down a bunch of dates and getting
06:22:25.140
the opportunity to know other people that doesn't make sense yay that's not playing the game sorry and
06:22:31.040
that's another reason too why I don't date because I have this problem of only talking to one person
06:22:36.840
and just having my whole world revolve around one person and it's it's like no it's not a safe way
06:22:44.480
to date because realistically you need to date a few at a time so you're not just
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this is assuming you're coming across men that are not on the same page as you right not every
06:22:56.380
man is like you where they are like I'd say most of them are not like you but I will say I would say
06:23:02.820
the way that in which they are like you is that wanting that exclusivity while they go stick their
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dick in everything that allows them to Brian's not doing that well I'm saying maybe not not him but
06:23:14.200
I'm saying like most men they want that exclusivity from you but they're not willing to give that to
06:23:19.740
you they want to have you know six seven eight whatever girls on the side but they want you to
06:23:25.100
only be talking to them and that's just not I feel like this is how dating like dating 20 years ago
06:23:30.180
you that's how it used to be like I feel like how I move is kind of like how most people used to move
06:23:38.520
but now it's all fucked up with like dating apps social media and all that shit you know the guy
06:23:44.280
typically is talking to one girl the girl's talking to one guy you know doesn't have to be like a super
06:23:49.700
trad courtship but maybe you guys hook up you know it doesn't you don't maybe not on the third date
06:23:54.780
whatever you guys like each other you're in a relationship boom but now it's like I'm talking
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I'm I'm fucking talking to five people I'm sleeping with two of them three of them whatever
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I feel like the way I move is like that was just kind of normal like that was the normal 20 years
06:24:09.980
ago wasn't it normal 20 years ago 20 years ago let's see that would be yearly okay yeah no yeah but if you
06:24:15.940
are sleeping with three out of five of those women then you're not doing that date rule where you're like
06:24:22.840
after this date is just us you still keeping your options open it's one-sided you're being one-sided
06:24:29.340
wait but I'm not I'm confused how are you how are you sleeping with three women out of five
06:24:35.600
oh but no but you want exclusivity wait I'm not though I don't know if you just I maybe I wasn't
06:24:41.020
clear but I'm saying like that's how people move oh but most men are though most men are not just
06:24:46.780
sleeping with being single I mean shit they're not even in relationships and just sleeping with their
06:24:51.780
partner but there are a lot of obviously most men are not single and just like oh I'm just
06:24:56.480
only gonna sleep with this one girl because she likes me so much and I just care so much about
06:25:02.280
I think women should start simping to be oh I'm such a simp art you're a simp I'm a fucking simp
06:25:07.780
certified simp certified simp yes certified lover girl I wear my heart on a sleeve yeah
06:25:13.880
certified and when you're saying oh men don't get compliments I'm maybe I'm just a love bomber I
06:25:20.620
don't know but I give all the compliments oh yeah just been placed in the wrong hand so
06:25:26.380
developed I'll fake defense mechanisms over time I'll fake an orgasm to stroke your ego no no no no
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first off hold on you can't fake the orgasm Brooklyn well if you ever gave me a real one you would know
06:25:37.900
that I faked it because it's like an exorcist moment so once you really actually exorcism the
06:25:42.360
organ exorcist moment yeah so once you actually accomplish that you would be like oh shit all
06:25:47.800
the other times were fake because there's no hiding which one was real and which one how many times have
06:25:52.620
you faked an orgasm I've done a few times to to stroke a man's ego for sure I'm trying not to do
06:25:59.620
that because I don't think that's a smart thing to do but I'm just saying I'm such a simp that I've
06:26:04.960
that I've done that that's how big of a simp I am I'm not about I think faking orgasm I don't
06:26:13.280
recommend it either not the right move you know no it it's not I don't think only men are allowed to
06:26:18.600
fake orgasms oh I'm just kidding nobody should fake an orgasm I don't even know no they really
06:26:30.160
shouldn't anyways next clip watch there's more how do you know how many more we have Nick is it
06:26:36.060
okay go ahead he doesn't want to wife you up it's because he doesn't see you like that don't be
06:26:42.700
confused don't think he's going through things he's not going through things he's not having a hard time
06:26:49.500
and like he just doesn't like you like that he might like you he definitely might like you but he
06:26:55.200
doesn't like you enough and that should be enough of a reason to exit if you want a relationship out
06:27:00.380
of him because a man that doesn't like you enough will fucking ruin your life if you like him too much
06:27:04.600
if he marmar's comment marmar's comment is so funny he's like and his grandma didn't die
06:27:10.820
that's our podcast okay shout out to my mom yeah I think uh yeah what was the last part he'll ruin
06:27:18.020
ruin if you like a man more than he likes you yeah he could really potentially fucking ruin your life
06:27:24.060
okay all right yeah next how many more do we have Nick is that a lot
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go ahead let's blast these I don't know what to say for myself let's blast these I don't back
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anything I said okay you should look out for that if you're going to deal with a man does he pay
06:27:41.280
attention to my wants needs and desires do you desire a couple bills taken care of do you desire
06:27:47.060
ice cream on your period do you desire flowers in the day then get that it's completely in reach
06:27:53.560
you're just asking the wrong you're not asking too much you should look out for that if you're
06:27:59.120
going to do asking too much flowers on a first date that's crazy you think that's too much that's a lot
06:28:05.660
flowers on what I'm trying to take donated $100 what the hell sorry few hours behind don't want to
06:28:13.480
derail conversation but I think the reason they associate p words with virginity is because they
06:28:19.940
themselves lost their v at a very young age cue for panel damn paladins why you gotta damn you
06:28:26.980
bringing it there okay like they're asking when we lost our virginity sure I guess we can go around
06:28:31.000
the table on that really quick when did everybody lose their virginity I lost mine at 17 I was 13
06:28:40.400
that's like junior high school that's the only other guy I dated what the fuck is going on in
06:28:49.480
junior high school shit I was in woodshop class I think worse now I think worse now
06:28:55.660
it's it's it's getting worse and worse for sure yeah like that's probably more the norm yeah you're
06:29:02.520
saying how everything's fast now because of the internet I feel like that's also affecting our
06:29:07.020
young generations that's a good point internet is fucking shit up I were hold on but I had I had
06:29:12.920
like dial up well I just I don't even feel bad about losing my virginity at such a young age because
06:29:18.680
that was my only other boyfriend like I was with him up until I was with my other boyfriend and
06:29:23.060
we were both virgins and that was my first love so going around the table though uh what were the ages
06:29:30.460
uh 23 late bloomer yeah I love that for you there you go uh 15
06:29:38.000
said I started being like um you know sexual at like 13 but I didn't get penetrated
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damn all right this is graphic it's fuck like what the bleachers like you're given like terrible
06:29:53.060
like when I was like 13 I got fingered in stuff like that in the what oh okay it was the beach
06:30:02.080
while paladins donated 99 dollars I called it and yes that is exactly what I was asking
06:30:13.320
well I like the yeah 17 19 can I like skip this question
06:30:25.880
if you want I guess yeah yeah I have a daughter I want to skip
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oh okay all right okay Andrew what about you you stud
06:30:35.920
uh I think I was 14 damn oh shit Andrew put in work
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damn I told you he's a handsome guy right try this guy all
06:30:48.180
he had this pick of the I had a lot of sisters they had a lot of good looking friends what do you
06:30:55.440
want oh hold on okay I thought you were about to pause after sisters I was like yeah Andrew that's
06:31:01.780
not that's illegal yeah no that's not where I was going with that no I had a lot of sisters
06:31:08.400
I was like that's crazy Andrew what do you want me to say okay yeah yeah Andrew uh had riz
06:31:14.540
he had a line around the block okay I'm sorry that's right uh where thank you law paladins we
06:31:24.000
were talking about the clip did we already react to the clip I don't know got next clip
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we got this boys we got this we're almost I don't do situationships you're not gonna be
06:31:33.380
fucking me and not claiming me I don't have casual sex nothing is casual about having sex with me
06:31:37.900
I don't play any of that if you're fucking me you got a boyfriend no you got a boyfriend no
06:31:43.580
y'all seeing somebody no no they miss my only questions
06:31:46.880
I don't do I have no idea why I picked that clip I don't know I just it caught it it was one of the
06:31:54.620
clips okay I guess next I don't know why I picked that one
06:31:58.400
like to dress like a slut and just keep it to myself the same way men like to act like they have
06:32:09.000
money and they don't they be wearing the chains and they have you know the designer this the designer
06:32:14.400
that not a dollar in their damn pocket though gas on fucking empty so I like to wear the smallest
06:32:21.580
skirts the tallest boots the biggest hoops the tiniest top and then prance around and piss men
06:32:27.600
off because they can't have me I like to dress like a slut and you like to prance around and piss
06:32:37.860
false advertisement what can I say for myself I can't say much that's the truth
06:32:44.880
okay it's like when you buy something off of amazon it looks like normal size like a crock
06:32:54.040
pot and it's like the really mini ones and you're like fuck scammed three grains of rice later
06:32:59.540
catfished catfished three grains of rice potfished that happened to me no I guess I don't know
06:33:07.720
she painted now I'm not in my husband era I'm in my era of like you want to treat me good you
06:33:13.380
want to relieve my stress you want to make me feel good I might make you feel good back and I'm not
06:33:19.260
gonna leave your stress back though I might give you a little more but you'd like it right now I'm
06:33:23.920
not in my way wait what what does that even look she's hiding behind me that's me being toxic that's
06:33:30.640
just me being toxic but you're not in your husband era no so what's your era right now so my era
06:33:37.120
is basically like I just want to have fun dating experiences okay but I don't want to get serious
06:33:44.720
but I also can acknowledge that dating there's at least one person that could catch feelings so I
06:33:52.400
could take that into account so can you can you answer for me I I realized this I was kind of going
06:34:03.720
through my notes here you said that you don't do situationships but said that it's okay to do here
06:34:11.020
no I know she's the one who said she's I was giving an opposing view she's the one who said she's
06:34:18.340
not with it I said I am yeah I know but but but you make the claim to your to your followers one
06:34:24.540
thing and then another here I'm just curious if you could speak to that what was my on the
06:34:29.280
situation on the situationships right you said you know here that it's okay for us to have a
06:34:37.280
situationship right you know you're not opposed to that correct and but you made a video where you
06:34:45.520
said that you were opposed to it right no that was me okay so we have okay so we have different
06:34:56.620
I have a man and he's a good man and you're my homegirl and you're hating and he's a good
06:35:04.980
fucking man I'm gonna need you to shut the fuck up because you're not eating my and you're not paying
06:35:09.100
my bills and misery loves company and baby I can't be yours if I have a man I was extremely high
06:35:16.680
recording that I just want to I don't know why I chose that one I'm just thinking like I don't
06:35:24.040
this is where I'm like what's the truth what's not because like you're talking about pussy eating
06:35:29.040
but like also I've been celibate for two years well I bet that's two things are true at once like
06:35:34.960
yeah no it's um you know you know I'm just uh you know can a girl reminisce yeah can a girl
06:35:40.780
reminisce I got quite I just have questions I have questions I've got my coochie like next I guess
06:35:47.100
oh okay I guess we're back exposing alpha male podcast talking why they go for young women
06:35:56.440
is because they're easier to manipulate so there's a reason why that older man doesn't have a woman
06:36:04.560
around his age because he can't get one because that woman is so much more smarter and experienced
06:36:09.500
than this 19 20 21 year old why they go I got so many comments for that so much engagement they're
06:36:17.100
like I'm like um well I mean but they're right like that man that makes no sense they're right that
06:36:25.320
I'm so stupid well I mean if that's the that position is stupid I'm not saying you're stupid
06:36:30.880
well that's what that's what I just said and you're like that right I'm like yeah no I didn't I didn't
06:36:35.920
say that you're stupid I said the position's stupid okay so they're right they're right about the
06:36:40.140
position the position doesn't make any sense like it's just kind of an assertion right yeah I
06:36:45.980
personally feel like we've really really delved in on the topic on age difference and dating so I
06:36:53.660
really feel like I really really feel like we haven't I really really feel like I really feel
06:37:00.380
like we should revisit it because I really really feel like you're very evasive can we do about your
06:37:05.780
answers that's why I really feel like that you know evasive he says evasive okay so what do you
06:37:15.560
oh I've got a question for you uh what's the oldest guy you've ever dated 39 wait and you're 25
06:37:23.620
how old are you how old were you when you dated him
06:37:34.620
so you're 25 to be dating basically a 40 year old yeah I did and this is problematic
06:37:44.080
not for you so it's rules for thee and not for me wait I got wait wait wait I just have a couple
06:37:52.100
of questions okay how long did you date him for a few months that was when I was speaking of that
06:37:57.280
ended up having a girlfriend I stopped seeing him because that came out how long ago did you date him
06:38:02.860
I literally just stopped seeing him right before we went to Miami and we went to Miami we go so two
06:38:09.060
weeks uh two weeks and some change wait and you said you were dating him for three months
06:38:13.560
like four four but you said you've been single for five years and then you said you've been celibate
06:38:21.580
for 10 months so did you not I was celibate she that was the longest oh you're right that was the
06:38:27.960
longest amount of time okay you did say so you lost your celibacy to him yes aka recently yes okay okay
06:38:34.060
okay and he wait he dumped you no I left him because it came out he had a girlfriend so I left
06:38:41.260
okay gotcha so but if he hadn't had a girlfriend would you have stayed with him
06:38:47.620
I possibly would yeah so I guess the age gap thing really isn't much of a problem but we started off
06:38:58.460
with 40 and 18 that is a that's a big you're talking about you're talking about a couple of
06:39:04.380
years difference here so much can change though but from my 18 year old self to now I still feel
06:39:11.080
like cortex is fully developed but I can acknowledge me and this man we did not have that much in common
06:39:18.540
and it took and you would still be with him it took a lot of um what's the word boo convincing
06:39:26.080
convincing and all that for me to give him the chance and then I ended up liking him but off the
06:39:35.000
bat I was saying like no I'm not into it but he ended up showing persistent he was okay so so wait a
06:39:42.460
second so let me just get this right so you ended up liking him yeah and you would still be with him
06:39:48.480
right now if it didn't come out that he had a different girlfriend other than yeah if they're
06:39:53.100
nickelodeon donated 69 dollars these are 12 year olds trapped in adult bodies they dress like it
06:40:00.920
act like it are just as intelligent ironic they complain about men going after women like them give big
06:40:07.900
wow thank you for that input but 69 dollars huh 69 dollars I like that they gave you 69 dollars for
06:40:19.180
that I change I respect that I change it up TTS is not 69 wait what's the oldest guy you've dated
06:40:23.620
uh same 39 not the same guy not the same guy wait but how could you guys have have had massive age
06:40:33.300
gap relationships and I yes and that's what I was saying like I can acknowledge and and I only dated
06:40:40.020
that guy for a few weeks and I was shown very quickly why like I was like what the fuck am I
06:40:44.840
doing and she didn't break herself and same thing with her she was like what the fuck am I doing
06:40:49.820
we were both like we lived no that's not what she said she said that she would still be with that guy
06:40:55.640
if she hadn't found out that she that he had a girlfriend she wasn't like what the fuck am I
06:40:59.920
doing she found out he was messing around with another girl that's totally different thing than
06:41:04.520
what the fuck am I doing uh well I feel like there was a lot of conversations between us
06:41:11.160
like in private that was like what the fuck am I doing and oh shit desert joe donated 69 dollars
06:41:19.960
too much time has been spent giving these two strumpets a platform the rest of the panel didn't get
06:41:26.620
nearly enough engagement everyone has lost brain cells listening to their incoherent views
06:41:32.480
thank you desert joe appreciate it the donation thank you thank you desert joe
06:41:39.300
we didn't know all these videos were going to come up we're just as surprised as you guys
06:41:44.220
yeah so are you um are you saying then that you don't have any problem or objection to 25 year olds
06:41:50.440
you know dating 40 year olds I don't I think that's a more approach I do think because you're
06:41:58.580
saying oh it's a few more years I think 18 to 25 I'm not who I was at 18 I'm a lot smarter I'm just
06:42:07.300
everything's different in my life now that's what we're saying but I think it was yeah but I mean
06:42:12.440
that was going to be the case when you're 35 too so should we wait till you're 35 no but I think
06:42:17.540
it was alarming hearing 40 and 18 it's very it's very alarming to me how alarming basic things are
06:42:25.740
to you so I don't understand why the amount of alarm that you have how alarmed you are is actually
06:42:32.040
informing us of anything 18 to 40 very very little distinction between that and 23 24 and 40 very very
06:42:43.360
little distinction there like what is it you're talking about you're talking about three four
06:42:48.420
years we can just agree to disagree how about that we got well I mean I don't think we can because it
06:42:55.420
seems like you're preaching do do rules for the but not for me age gap relationships don't actually
06:43:04.680
seem to bother you I could you just become you just become alarmed for some reason that oh now
06:43:10.600
they're adults but they're not 25 I don't I don't know why that matters like if you were 23 would
06:43:16.540
that have been worse I also can give advice based on my own experiences like learn from my mistakes and
06:43:25.880
I could also give better advice than I give to myself as could most people yeah but why would you give
06:43:32.500
that advice if you still would be with the guy if he hadn't been with some other chick that's what I
06:43:37.900
don't get because I just personally feel 18 is too young for a 40 year old but I'm not going to
06:43:50.260
stop it they're legal and they could do whatever but I just personally would feel the way about it
06:43:54.640
but that's just me and it goes back to you saying like oh you just want us to say it's like I guess
06:43:58.780
yeah we're just looking at it sideways it's not illegal it's not like we're gonna stop anyone from
06:44:03.080
doing it we're just we're just talking our shit that's what it really comes down to yeah I know
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I'm just talking my shit back and I'm saying it's incoherent it doesn't make any sense I don't really
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understand the position and you yourselves are involved in age gap relationships and according
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to her at least that one may have worked out she liked the guy there's no problem there until she
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found out he had a girlfriend might still be with him right now and maybe live happily ever after
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well I believe in a divine intervention I wasn't meant to be with that man
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and where is where does this divine intervention come from God
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I have dreams signs and it's just up to you to pay attention to them
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yeah what church do you go to is it saint baptist church
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oh so um where how do you know that these signs are divine and not satanic
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how do I believe they're not satanic because if it was satanic
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yeah how do you know how do you know that they're divine and not satanic
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wait wait wait they wouldn't be for your greater good
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yeah because I feel like saint would bring you down in life
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oh okay does God want you to have sexual intercourse outside of marriage
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okay does does your God want you to have sexual intercourse outside of marriage
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because that's for the greater good that you have sex outside of marriage right
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if God wants you to have sex outside of marriage
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I feel like God wouldn't want me to spread myself thin