Whatever Podcast - October 05, 2026


Andrew Wilson vs. Muslim Feminist DEBATE! Feminist KICKED OUT?! | Dating Talk 315

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00:03:35.900 we're going to have the guests introduce themselves
00:03:39.000 without further ado
00:03:40.520 starting with you go ahead
00:03:41.760 Hi my name is Asal
00:03:43.520 So name, age, occupation
00:03:48.140 where you're from education
00:03:49.280 Hi my name is Asal
00:03:51.260 I'm 22, I'm from LA
00:03:53.280 and I'm a student studying chromology. All right. What about you? Hi, my name is Jamila. I'm 29.
00:04:01.440 I'm a behaviorist and I have degrees in psychology and applied behavior analysis. And you have a
00:04:06.540 bachelor's and a master's? Yes, a bachelor's in psychology and a master's in applied behavior
00:04:10.820 analysis. And where are you from? I'm from New York, New York City. Okay. And what do you do for
00:04:16.920 work? I work as a behaviorist. Oh, okay. As a behaviorist. Gotcha. All right. Aren't there many
00:04:22.640 fields of that yeah so i work with different populations adults adolescents children or like
00:04:29.280 corrective behavior yeah it really just depends on what the person needs that could be an adult who
00:04:34.320 you know needs to get a routine down that could be a 16 year old with bipolar disorder who needs
00:04:38.640 some assistance in school that could be a child with disabilities who needs some skill acquisition
00:04:43.120 and managing problem behaviors so it really just depends okay yeah all right uh what about you
00:04:48.480 Hi, my name is Mary. I am a student studying history. I'm from Montreal, and I also work at McDonald's.
00:04:59.020 Age?
00:05:00.500 At 22, sorry.
00:05:02.260 All right. That's a good job.
00:05:04.760 I should have had you show up in the uniform.
00:05:08.180 I don't think they would allow that.
00:05:10.120 No, yeah, they'd give me that.
00:05:11.740 Do you just do the drive-thru, or do you actually do the cooking, too?
00:05:15.620 I do like the drinks, and I take the orders.
00:05:18.120 I pack the orders. 1.00
00:05:19.640 And the Mexicans do all the cooking? 1.00
00:05:21.360 Indians. 1.00
00:05:22.020 Indians, yeah. 0.65
00:05:22.600 Because Canada. 0.94
00:05:23.300 Yeah.
00:05:23.620 Yeah.
00:05:24.760 Okay.
00:05:25.360 What about you?
00:05:26.240 I'm Ella.
00:05:26.940 I'm 20.
00:05:27.900 I'm from Minnesota.
00:05:29.200 I'm a bartender and a theater student.
00:05:32.740 Education?
00:05:34.100 I'm in school for theater.
00:05:37.820 Okay.
00:05:38.100 And did you say you're in college currently?
00:05:43.320 Is that correct?
00:05:44.160 Studying what again?
00:05:45.040 A history.
00:05:45.880 History, okay.
00:05:47.260 All right, what about you?
00:05:48.640 Hi, my name is Aubrey.
00:05:50.220 I am 20, and I'm in cosmetology school.
00:05:54.580 All right.
00:05:56.480 Age?
00:05:57.480 20.
00:05:58.900 Sorry, you already said that.
00:06:01.460 Yeah.
00:06:01.760 I think I meant to say, where are you from?
00:06:04.440 Oh, Los Angeles.
00:06:05.840 You're from L.A., okay.
00:06:07.380 And cosmetology school, any, like, typical college?
00:06:12.060 No, just, like, a very small, like, trade school, I would say.
00:06:14.960 okay and then um what is there anything specific with cosmetology hair makeup uh I'm doing
00:06:23.040 manicuring so just like nail technician nail stuff yeah got it all right and nobody here
00:06:28.120 does OF correct nobody's done OnlyFans no in the past anybody nobody he said points right at you
00:06:37.000 any any kind of sex work or anything do I look like I do OnlyFans well you you hesitated no which
00:06:43.480 doesn't just because someone hesitates doesn't mean that it's indicative that they are in fact
00:06:46.960 the thing but um okay wow so no no no of no of girls or otherwise sex workers on the panel um
00:06:53.840 and then uh andrew if you want to go ahead and introduce yourself go go for it yeah my name is
00:06:58.980 andrew wilson the host of the crucible that's basically it all right there you go uh you have
00:07:05.480 any education not really high school high school dropout dropout when did you 10th grade 10th
00:07:12.680 grade he was a robotics engineer guys that's true by trade
00:07:17.220 but i did drop out of high school in 10th grade high school dropout not everyone needs school
00:07:25.180 to be successful it's one of the smartest things anybody has ever said on this show
00:07:29.920 almost nobody ever needs school to be successful it's just it's a choice
00:07:35.440 yeah or a scam it could be a scam uh let's go around the table once more what's everyone's
00:07:42.100 relationship status? I'm taken. Okay. For how long you've been seeing your guy? It's been a year
00:07:49.900 and a half. All right. And what's your longest relationship? This one? This one would be my
00:07:57.600 longest one. Okay. And you're joining the Air Force, is that correct? After graduation. And
00:08:03.800 then your boyfriend, it's long distance. Currently, yes. He lives up north, northern NorCal? Yeah,
00:08:10.700 but I visit almost every weekend and he pays for all your expenses no he pays for my rent but I
00:08:16.900 pay for everything else and I do help out too what when you say you pay for everything else
00:08:21.240 you mean you pay for your own expenses no I help him out how so it's just when he comes down it's
00:08:27.600 just a place because it's closer to my school and I help him with um food groceries sometimes
00:08:35.660 Whatever.
00:08:36.320 Like when he visits you.
00:08:37.580 When he visits me, yeah, I chip in, you know.
00:08:40.960 You chip in.
00:08:42.000 Like when we go out to food or we do little activities.
00:08:46.920 Okay.
00:08:47.340 How old's your boyfriend?
00:08:48.580 He's 20.
00:08:49.440 He's about to be 27.
00:08:50.820 Got it.
00:08:51.520 What about you?
00:08:52.940 I am single.
00:08:53.960 I've been single for about a year now.
00:08:56.220 What's your longest relationship?
00:08:58.160 Four years.
00:08:59.120 Four years.
00:08:59.500 Is that the one that ended a year ago?
00:09:01.380 No.
00:09:02.300 How long was the one that ended a year ago?
00:09:04.220 Three years.
00:09:04.740 Three years.
00:09:05.260 uh who broke up with who the most recent one i broke up with him who broke up with who in the
00:09:10.780 four-year relationship i also broke up with him uh for the three-year why did you break up with
00:09:15.420 him uh religious differences cultural differences how so as far as the religious um yeah i'm muslim
00:09:25.300 he was not and when you start talking about marriage and you bring family into it there's
00:09:30.460 just some things that didn't align now was he he wouldn't convert no he would he was more so
00:09:36.520 dealing with the family and the family's feelings about things and i didn't really think i wanted
00:09:40.960 to marry into all that oops uh so was he atheist no he was christian he was catholic he was catholic
00:09:50.960 devoutly catholic um i don't know you could ask him did you go to church
00:09:57.480 when he was with his family yes uh well okay how devoutly muslim are you
00:10:04.760 um do you go to mosque or i don't know the procedure i mean i pray every day so but do
00:10:11.020 you go to like a mosque or so that's not really like a required part of like being a muslim no
00:10:17.680 it's not no it's like subjective if you want to go to the mosque or not it's encouraged but
00:10:21.880 it's more so your daily prayers that are a requirement yeah okay and so what is the
00:10:28.100 daily requirement for prayers isn't like five times a day do you pray five times a day uh not
00:10:33.760 every day do you go like on a on a mat and face mecca is it yes i do okay um and so
00:10:42.600 you but at what point in the relationship did you know he was catholic
00:10:48.440 I mean, we knew that starting off, and remember, it wasn't really an issue of him converting.
00:10:53.520 It was more so an issue of, like, families, you know.
00:10:56.520 Okay, so you didn't have necessarily an issue dating someone outside of your religion, but your parents, your family?
00:11:02.760 It wasn't my family.
00:11:03.700 Oh, it was his side?
00:11:04.520 Mm-hmm.
00:11:05.360 Okay.
00:11:06.400 Would you be open to converting?
00:11:08.180 No.
00:11:08.760 No.
00:11:09.980 Okay.
00:11:10.780 Aren't you not even supposed to really date outside of Islam?
00:11:14.160 um uh there are some disagreements in that it's not explicitly forbidden in the quran
00:11:21.700 but again i don't really want to talk about religion i prefer to move off of that topic
00:11:25.860 i actually would like to say something what's your ethnicity me yeah oh i'm afghan i'm persian
00:11:33.060 um so you're not persian okay like because a lot of persians aren't muslim just because of
00:11:40.420 the regime that's going on so afghans are mostly when you say persian you mean iranian yeah i 0.54
00:11:45.840 when you're born in iran you are persian you speak the language of farsi yeah that's the problem we 1.00
00:11:51.460 have with people who are from afghanistan they like to call themselves they're persian but you 1.00
00:11:55.800 should love who you are and your culture a lot of people in from afghanistan are um muslim by their
00:12:02.040 own choice as in where my people were forced on it so as when someone's iranian they are a muslim
00:12:09.460 We are not very much with that religion because of the abuse that's happening right now.
00:12:15.980 You mean in Iran? 0.64
00:12:16.960 In Iran, yes.
00:12:18.720 And you're Christian.
00:12:20.440 Is that correct?
00:12:21.540 It's just my dad and my mom.
00:12:24.180 So my mom's Christian.
00:12:25.460 My dad's, he's kind of religiously open.
00:12:28.520 Are they Iranian Christian?
00:12:29.980 Yeah.
00:12:30.720 Okay, so from Iran?
00:12:32.280 From Iran, yeah.
00:12:33.020 We were born there.
00:12:33.820 Okay, so are they Orthodox?
00:12:36.480 Not my dad, but my mom, yes.
00:12:38.680 but they're very open and loving they don't care about like what religion i want to do they don't
00:12:43.800 force anything on me but usually most persians are against um islam only because of what's been
00:12:52.280 going on and how 47 years ago it's been abusing us and forcing something on us but when you are 0.99
00:12:58.200 persian you are from iran you have someone born in iran and that's what it is okay you want to
00:13:04.160 call me persian you want to call me afghan i really you're not persian so that's cool that's
00:13:08.200 Cool. Persia broke up. 0.57
00:13:09.820 No, listen, but you're still not Iranian. 1.00
00:13:14.080 You're still not Iranian. 1.00
00:13:15.600 And you're very rude. Persian people are very classy. 1.00
00:13:17.840 Okay, so she's not going to let me speak. I just let you go.
00:13:20.440 I just let you go. 1.00
00:13:20.940 And we look nothing alike, so you're not Persian. 0.96
00:13:23.320 Who said that I was trying to look like you?
00:13:25.340 No, I'm saying Persians look very much alike.
00:13:27.700 We have similar traits, and you are beautiful yourself.
00:13:30.580 Afghan people are beautiful themselves,
00:13:33.440 but why don't you want to just say you're from Afghan? 0.99
00:13:35.680 You're Afghani.
00:13:36.300 i just said i don't care if you call me but why do you say you're afghan and you're persian that
00:13:41.080 doesn't make sense to me persia broke up but you're still not iranian but you're still not
00:13:45.460 iranian out because you're not iranian out let me know when you're ready to let me talk do you
00:13:50.200 speak let me know when you're ready to let me talk okay so keep going
00:13:52.840 okay are you ready to let me talk sure okay so uh persia broke up into iran and parts of
00:14:03.040 afghanistan and parts of pakistan so that is why i call myself persian i speak persian that's fine
00:14:09.800 um if you want to call me afghan i have no problem with you calling me afghan i am afghan no that's
00:14:14.900 not an insult but you are afghan i literally are not iranian so i just said it's fine if you call
00:14:19.280 me that so what are you talking about everyone do i have afghan friends i would agree with this
00:14:22.780 you are not iranian regardless if persia broke up and we have history so you're being mad
00:14:27.580 disrespectful to. When did I call myself
00:14:29.720 Iranian? You called yourself Persian 1.00
00:14:31.700 and Persian is from Iran.
00:14:33.780 Okay, so have that. Call me Afghan. 0.66
00:14:35.640 So call me Afghan. If you got migrated into Afghanistan,
00:14:38.040 there is no Persian blood there.
00:14:39.580 I'm sorry. That's the other 1.00
00:14:41.140 ancestry. How does that relate to you?
00:14:43.420 Whatever floats your boat. You can call me Afghan. 0.90
00:14:45.680 Hi, I'm Afghan. Does that make everybody feel better?
00:14:47.340 Would you consider Iranians to be superior
00:14:49.480 to Afghanis? No.
00:14:51.760 No. Okay. I just think everyone,
00:14:53.500 them claiming us is because we're going through
00:14:55.420 things that they've never gone through and it's
00:14:57.360 Completely different experiences, different languages, different culture.
00:15:00.240 So you almost feel like they're stealing your ethnicity? 0.99
00:15:01.940 Exactly, yes. 0.99
00:15:02.980 Like it's a...
00:15:04.400 They don't like who they are because of the stuff that happens there.
00:15:08.100 What's the progressive term for that?
00:15:10.180 Stolen valor?
00:15:11.060 No, no, no. 0.96
00:15:11.680 For when you assume the ethnicity.
00:15:13.820 I can't think of what it's called.
00:15:14.840 Cultural appropriation.
00:15:15.460 Yeah, cultural appropriation.
00:15:16.460 And that's what I believe it is because I have some Afghan friends who literally say
00:15:20.380 the reason some Afghani people say they're Persian is because they don't like to claim
00:15:25.040 what's happening in Afghanistan. 0.95
00:15:26.480 oh i have no reason speaking on what's going on in afghanistan i think it is absolutely agree
00:15:31.360 absolutely egregious what they are doing to those oh no no i'm not saying about that but a lot of
00:15:35.140 people don't want to be a part of that okay that you and their culture and i don't have bad experience
00:15:39.460 i said it's okay that that's your experience that's just not mine so stop projecting your
00:15:44.140 own experiences onto me and we can move on i'm done i'm not projecting and you're done with the 0.99
00:15:47.780 convo because you lost thank you oh i lost i don't give a fuck about what you're saying oh and you're 0.97
00:15:52.920 cussing i'm sorry he said no cussing as a person if you're if you're a persian if you're persian 1.00
00:15:58.460 keep your composure a little bit okay babe okay babe get the fuck out of here yeah she's funny 0.99
00:16:04.720 i mean i will say like in kind of in her defense the smartest people on planet earth are persians 0.98
00:16:11.720 like literally most are engineers yeah their iq their iq is like uh only dwarf well not even
00:16:18.280 koreans and japanese it it's like basically persians are the highest i pick up languages
00:16:23.200 like this i speak three fluent languages and i'm gonna get my master's as well and i'm joined the
00:16:28.880 air force to build my resume have you taken an iq test i i took it a while ago don't you but
00:16:35.700 wait wait well like in high school they were required to take it look up for me real quick
00:16:40.560 the iq of afghanistan on average and then the iq of iran on average first of all that's so not fair
00:16:47.160 that is fair because it's like our whole government was dismantled oh so our government
00:16:53.320 so uh iran's reported average all right i'm i'm done with this iran's reported average
00:17:00.900 score is approximately 105 while afghanistan's is around 89 and and listen isn't that like
00:17:10.960 how many standard deviations is that and that's from that's an accurate thing but
00:17:16.160 That doesn't mean your IQ. 0.90
00:17:17.480 Let's ignore the fact that women in my country were not allowed to have an education for many years.
00:17:23.460 Let's ignore the fact that my entire government was dismantled.
00:17:27.980 Oh, speaking facts. 1.00
00:17:28.660 My government, 47 years ago, the Islamic regime took over. 0.99
00:17:32.960 My people don't even have a right to show their hair. 1.00
00:17:35.120 She's so irritated. 0.99
00:17:36.720 You're irritated. 0.99
00:17:37.940 Stop, stop.
00:17:38.940 I got you.
00:17:39.440 Wait, shh, shh, shh.
00:17:40.580 It's okay.
00:17:41.020 Matt.
00:17:41.280 Wait, look at me.
00:17:41.920 Look at me.
00:17:42.520 It's all right.
00:17:43.560 I'll let you speak.
00:17:44.360 but you guys can have the exchange i just ask you let each other talk because right now you're
00:17:51.560 talking over each other talking at the same time let each other finish you have something quick
00:17:56.660 and then okay go ahead quick i just want to add to this conversation that like well iq is like
00:18:02.280 mostly genetic if you deprive people of like nutrients if you don't let them go to school
00:18:06.620 they're going to score lower on the test that's not actually indicative of their real score if
00:18:10.780 they got to like go to school and iran has like one of the most rigorous education systems in
00:18:15.440 the world because they're like you know building the bombs and stuff no okay okay wait wait hold 1.00
00:18:19.440 on so and wait wait hold on afghanistan people are the ones who bomb actually so that's why 0.91
00:18:26.100 oh my god baby girl i hope you're educated good lord i can't even believe that terrorist government
00:18:32.940 iran has a terrorist government not terrorist people inshallah or wait the taliban isn't the
00:18:38.980 government. The Taliban isn't part of Iran.
00:18:41.180 How do you say stop? Well, that would be for you. 0.66
00:18:43.600 How do you say 1.00
00:18:44.200 shut the fuck up in Farsi? 1.00
00:18:46.800 Are you upset? 1.00
00:18:47.860 Do you want to make a breather?
00:18:49.520 But I like what, that's not even in Farsi.
00:18:52.220 That's Pashtun. Pashtun and Farsi are
00:18:54.140 two different dialects of Farsi.
00:18:56.520 I'm not speaking Daria. I've never
00:18:58.200 spoke Daria a day of my life. The fuck is Daria? 1.00
00:19:00.180 It's like Daria. Dora the Explorer, bro. 1.00
00:19:01.840 It's like a different dialect of Farsi because they can't 1.00
00:19:04.200 speak Farsi properly.
00:19:05.500 Kafe Kun Beger.
00:19:06.920 I was like what did you just say
00:19:10.740 Zar Nazan
00:19:12.120 Zar Nazan
00:19:13.800 He doesn't know
00:19:14.800 Zar Nazan bro 1.00
00:19:16.600 I can say
00:19:19.500 I just said my name is Asal
00:19:23.980 I don't understand what you're saying right now
00:19:25.580 Because you're not announcing
00:19:26.740 Cafe show
00:19:27.680 Cafe show 0.98
00:19:31.080 I think that means shut up 1.00
00:19:33.300 I just said shut up sweetheart 1.00
00:19:35.640 wait you're middle eastern right i'm mixed yeah what from where though armenia okay so i don't 0.97
00:19:43.360 know if you've got beef with you got beef oh no we don't got that's like turkey we're friends
00:19:47.140 actually we're good we're good just any turkish i actually am turkish as well oh wow okay so this
00:19:53.560 is the circle of victimization so you're saying afghanistan no no no it's not it's not the circle
00:19:59.900 of actually original prisons have turkish blood her people and her people hate her people that's
00:20:05.120 what's actually going on no and listen we don't hate it's just the cultural things that's been
00:20:10.540 happening throughout generations and how some of the stereotypes are true for all cultures i'm not
00:20:16.000 gonna lie it's not this one's bad this one's good no we all got bad in our culture and someone just
00:20:20.920 got beef with one another more than the other person and i like exactly what she said about
00:20:25.380 that oh sorry my face i like exactly what she said about the iq i was not pointing at you
00:20:30.900 We're in New York
00:20:32.440 Are you Brooklyn or Manhattan
00:20:35.200 Manhattan I live in West Village
00:20:36.840 No I live in West Village
00:20:38.580 Do you know how to do like a New York accent 0.54
00:20:40.820 Maybe that'll teach her 1.00
00:20:42.080 Get your fucking finger 1.00
00:20:45.480 Out my fucking face 1.00
00:20:46.860 I like it like that 1.00
00:20:47.900 But I like her 0.98
00:20:49.200 IQ thing because just because your IQ is high
00:20:53.020 Doesn't mean you're smarter
00:20:54.100 Because some people don't need education either
00:20:56.340 And they've been more successful than other people with high IQs
00:20:59.460 so that's also that's what i kind of liked what she said well you're kind of factual about it
00:21:06.120 it's the closest science gets is 50 50 right so genetic and environment at least 50 percent
00:21:13.080 is going to be genetic well we don't know they did like twin studies and there's no difference
00:21:17.980 like regardless where they grow up well that's true right but they still don't know for sure
00:21:26.860 how much of it's genetic versus environmental when you're pointing out the environmental fact
00:21:30.720 i agree with you there's got to be some environment we just don't know how much
00:21:33.600 yeah so i just like in the most charitable view i'd say let's just give it a 50 50 in the most
00:21:39.100 charitable view that's not really what's going on there though what's going on there is that 0.64
00:21:44.300 like 60 of afghanistan's inbred literally and not kidding going back onto government hang on hang
00:21:50.960 on am i wrong i feel like you're trying to rage bait me i'm not i'm not trying to rage bait you
00:21:55.320 call for it. I'm fine. I'm going to fact check this. How much Andrew? 50%? Actually, I think
00:22:03.080 it's higher actually because of cousin inbreedings. Andrew, may I say something? Wait, wait, wait, 0.99
00:22:09.260 hold on. First we got to, I'm doing a little fact check here. So this is what the Google
00:22:13.360 says. Approximately 46% to 50% of marriages in Afghanistan are consanguineous. Did I say
00:22:20.680 So that's between blood relatives and most commonly...
00:22:25.140 And usually minors, too.
00:22:26.320 Okay, calm down.
00:22:27.120 It's okay.
00:22:28.020 That's true.
00:22:28.880 You had too much energy drink.
00:22:30.500 Between blood relatives, most commonly first or second cousins.
00:22:33.820 First, usually, and here's why. 0.96
00:22:35.620 So are we going to say that's the only country in which that's true?
00:22:38.780 No, but if you just hear me out, I can explain, right?
00:22:44.400 So it is mostly Muslim-dominant nations, though.
00:22:47.660 You don't see it among any...
00:22:49.140 I think that's interesting because India is one of the largest countries in the world, and it's very prominent in India.
00:22:53.280 India is not a Muslim country.
00:22:53.940 That's true, but is India a Christian country?
00:22:57.060 Is it a Muslim country like you were just stating?
00:22:59.360 But what I said was mostly, it's mostly a Muslim phenomenon.
00:23:03.960 That doesn't mean, what I'm saying is that it's not a Christian phenomenon. 0.96
00:23:07.520 There is inbreeding in Christian nations, but it's usually 3% to 5%, and that's maximum. 0.87
00:23:12.920 Can we look up those stats too? 0.99
00:23:14.400 Sure, look them up.
00:23:15.420 That's true.
00:23:16.040 so it's true in most christian nations it's extraordinarily you guys didn't specifically
00:23:20.500 do muslims you guys did afghan so let's look at the muslims and let's look at the christians if
00:23:24.320 we're going to get into it then let's get into it if you would just chill out for a second i was
00:23:27.960 finishing my thought you were i was in the middle of mine okay so calm down okay so the thing it's
00:23:34.200 funny is it's like the the reason it's so low in christian nations versus muslim nations is
00:23:40.620 because there was various decrees from the Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church for
00:23:46.300 over hundreds and hundreds of years ago that outlawed cousin marriage. 0.63
00:23:51.440 Muslims kept it because they wanted inheritance. 0.99
00:23:54.280 It was part of inheritance. 0.98
00:23:55.120 And that's the same reason Catholics, by the way, stopped their priests from marrying is
00:23:59.100 because they didn't want inheritance.
00:24:00.600 That was the whole thing.
00:24:01.940 They wanted all that stuff that the priests accrued to go back to the church.
00:24:05.920 They didn't want it to go to a family.
00:24:08.240 So that's why that's going on. 1.00
00:24:10.620 It is indeed factual that it's due to massive inbreeding in Muslim nations that the IQ 1.00
00:24:15.860 collectively goes down and in Christian nations collectively goes up because it's not due 0.75
00:24:21.160 to mass inbreeding.
00:24:22.200 Yeah.
00:24:22.500 May I?
00:24:23.160 Okay.
00:24:23.400 So when she was going about the government, my government's going through similar things,
00:24:28.700 but not as worse. 0.97
00:24:29.660 The reason Afghanistan has gone so bad is because they set that system up. 1.00
00:24:33.480 They never stood up. 1.00
00:24:34.180 They never said anything.
00:24:35.300 They were okay with it because they're into that religion until things started getting
00:24:39.720 really extreme and now they're getting scared but my people never wanted it and they like came
00:24:44.400 in and just like took over everything well iran still has still has i believe way higher than
00:24:50.920 average inbreeding oh yeah they do it's because it started 47 years ago that's when it started 0.93
00:24:55.580 increasing because the muslim because the muslim influence yes even though it still has a very high 0.99
00:25:00.480 iq collectively that actually brings it down exactly which is wild uh some quick some quick
00:25:05.840 stats here. So, uh, countries with the lowest rates of inbreeding or consanguineous, consanguineous
00:25:14.280 marriages, maybe I'm mispronouncing that. Uh, so in Western societies, uh, Western societies,
00:25:20.700 East Asia and the Americas, it's exceptionally rare. Western Europe, North America rates are
00:25:26.600 typically under 0.5%. Uh, in the United States, the estimated rate is roughly 0.1%. And cousin
00:25:35.540 marriage is legally restricted or outright banned in more than half of all states and even in the
00:25:41.100 places where you do see it in african nations that are mostly christian in places like this
00:25:46.920 the max you usually get three to five percent uh wait well hold on i do like i gotta move on
00:25:52.720 here a little bit um but no we can move on i just wanted to make one point that we're talking about
00:25:58.360 countries with indigenous people and then we're comparing them to western countries like here
00:26:02.220 where a majority of people,
00:26:03.820 nobody from this country
00:26:04.680 was indigenous people
00:26:05.700 of this country
00:26:06.280 except for Native American. 0.99
00:26:07.240 What about Western Europe? 0.99
00:26:08.340 They're all indigenous. 1.00
00:26:09.120 What are you talking about?
00:26:09.640 Yeah, they're all indigenous.
00:26:10.640 Okay, go.
00:26:11.580 The British come
00:26:12.560 from the Britannian tribes,
00:26:13.860 Germans from the Germanic tribe,
00:26:14.900 they're all indigenous.
00:26:15.800 Also, one of the most places
00:26:16.180 that has a lot of drug abuse 1.00
00:26:17.840 is Afghan, Afghanistan. 1.00
00:26:20.080 You don't seem to like Afghanistan
00:26:21.520 very much. 1.00
00:26:21.820 This woman literally hates 1.00
00:26:23.240 Afghan people 1.00
00:26:23.940 and it is bleeding out 1.00
00:26:25.100 so obviously 0.82
00:26:25.880 and it's disgusting 0.74
00:26:26.760 that I'm sitting next to her. 0.97
00:26:26.820 We learned about it in class.
00:26:28.120 We played the videos on
00:26:29.260 I would love to move on, guys.
00:26:30.980 I thought this was a dating podcast.
00:26:31.880 People who go to stop overdose, they do travel to Afghanistan to help people, and there is, like...
00:26:38.160 All I'm going to say is, Allah guide you.
00:26:40.020 May Allah suit the Allah guide you, baby girl.
00:26:41.940 That's all I have to say. 0.99
00:26:42.560 That's why people in prison turn into Islam, right? 1.00
00:26:44.660 The worst people that go to prison turn into Islam, because it's the only religion that 1.00
00:26:48.240 will take them in, right?
00:26:49.780 It's all about love.
00:26:52.020 I can't even...
00:26:53.040 There's just so much ignorance, I can't address it all in one thing.
00:26:55.200 Get the wrong.
00:26:55.740 All right.
00:26:56.120 I'm done.
00:26:56.580 I have a different view.
00:26:57.560 Wait, wait, wait. 1.00
00:26:58.100 Let me move towards it, because low-IQ people go to prison. 1.00
00:27:00.280 So that's great. 1.00
00:27:01.000 Love that.
00:27:01.380 that's why i think they do it that's why they do it all right you were can i add something to the
00:27:08.300 conversation before i give like yeah just say it though yeah i feel like uh iran is also unique
00:27:13.120 because it's shia and all the other countries including afghanistan or sunni and i feel like
00:27:17.700 shia might be like a better a slightly better sect um but yeah anyway okay love that okay so
00:27:24.180 going back to the original thing i'm surprised that you knew that oh thanks like most of the
00:27:28.700 population has no idea that i took a class on it uh so okay uh there was a difference in religion
00:27:36.740 with your last boyfriend so that's what caused the split you guys were together for three years
00:27:42.000 you had a four-year relationship uh what was the cause for the breakup there yeah we just moved
00:27:47.280 away after graduate school and everything didn't make sense all right here i need to readjust your
00:27:51.580 mics because you guys keep moving it let me have you tilt your microphone down just a little bit
00:27:55.000 and then your microphone needs to be straight like see how everyone's mic yep okay uh relationship
00:28:00.800 status please uh so i'm officially single but i've been seeing someone for two months we just
00:28:05.740 like haven't put a label on it but yeah you're officially single yeah okay because i'm pretty
00:28:10.020 sure it's not exclusive we haven't had the talk yet okay so does he get free mcdonald's um like
00:28:18.120 yeah like he never asked for it but yeah if he gets free mcdonald's and it's exclusive those are
00:28:23.320 rules uh when's the last time you saw him um last saturday we got pizza okay is it long distance or
00:28:31.960 no same city same city okay how old is he 26 26 and um how did you meet him hinge hinge okay single
00:28:42.940 seeing a guy for two months have you had carnal knowledge uh no no carnal knowledge no carnal
00:28:50.360 knowledge okay are you are you religious yeah i'm catholic are you waiting until marriage yeah
00:28:56.200 uh has that always been your standard yes so you're a virgin yep why did what is that yeah
00:29:03.820 there was a period there was a there was a kirk of the eyebrow there as i noticed she was
00:29:09.400 she was a little bit like i'm proud of her that's all just saying for which one her or
00:29:16.740 McDonald's.
00:29:18.000 So you think, what, you think she's lying?
00:29:19.140 I'm not saying that.
00:29:20.700 Not lying.
00:29:21.760 Okay, so not like a born-again virgin. 0.75
00:29:24.980 Never had any sort of sex. 1.00
00:29:27.140 Catholics don't do that shit. 1.00
00:29:28.460 They don't do the born-again shit. 1.00
00:29:29.940 All right. 1.00
00:29:31.580 And you're not just like waiting for the right guy.
00:29:33.920 You are indeed waiting until marriage.
00:29:35.500 Is that correct?
00:29:36.020 Okay.
00:29:37.440 Two months, been seeing this guy.
00:29:39.280 Is he also Catholic?
00:29:40.800 He's Christian. 0.91
00:29:42.200 Christian, okay.
00:29:42.860 is he also wait a virgin waiting until marriage um I haven't asked him but he's like fine with
00:29:48.660 me waiting so I assume my bellies are aligned okay but you don't care if he's also a virgin
00:29:53.520 okay it doesn't matter all right um what's your longest relationship you've ever had um almost a
00:29:59.600 year like 11 months and then weren't you dating a there's a significant age gap yeah that's that
00:30:05.260 was quite brief when I was 17 um yeah I thought he was like 21 but it turned out he was a bit older
00:30:11.600 he was 29 um like we took a selfie together and I showed it to my friend and she's like oh are you
00:30:17.400 sure he's 21 like um yeah now that you mentioned it some wrinkles you know so I asked him and
00:30:24.420 yeah he was just like yeah I'm 29 like did he have like a reason for like lying about his age
00:30:29.740 or was it just like for the love of the game I mean I assume he wanted a date with like someone
00:30:34.340 younger so yeah that i guess that's the reason is and he said he was how old 29 no that's how
00:30:41.640 old he actually was i thought he was 21 oh he told you he was 21 our fantasy commission says for him
00:30:47.660 it's all about the friendships cute kevin but i disagree like with bet365 i get paid the second
00:30:56.180 my team goes up big with early payout and can cash out at any time before the game ends no hard
00:31:01.440 feelings kevin just faster payouts from bet 365 the home of winning early must be 19 and older
00:31:07.480 ontario only please play responsibly if you or someone you know has concerns about gambling
00:31:10.820 visit connects ontario.ca or call 1-866-531-2600 terms and conditions apply oh he told you that
00:31:17.180 or you assumed it no he told me but like you guys never went out or like ids came up or anything
00:31:22.340 like no i was 17 so so she wasn't going emotional yeah rape right that's that's so not what i would
00:31:29.460 call that but okay no well what did what do you what does it call moral moral rape that's right
00:31:34.020 sorry i'd say like deceiving yeah it's only wrong i don't know that you were talking about that
00:31:39.600 aspect of it but you know you might not think it's deceiving for other reasons i agree yeah
00:31:46.680 okay uh relationship status i'm single single uh and so you were uh engaged i was and you had
00:31:57.140 so your wedding was you're like a what a month away from your wedding when you broke it off
00:32:03.660 uh like yeah like a month and a half yeah okay and so called off the wedding broke it off with
00:32:10.980 a fiance but you get you're single but you are still trying to work things out with him okay
00:32:17.160 but have you been dating other men not anymore no not any as of when um probably like a month maybe
00:32:26.140 it was hurting his feelings so i stopped it okay hurting it so when's the last time you spent time
00:32:32.880 with him uh like before i left to come out here so he's in minnesota yeah he's in minnesota okay
00:32:39.760 um there was a something i saw on your tiktok why'd you guys break up um he had been lying
00:32:47.180 to me about a gambling addiction oh that's serious okay can i ask a question was it sports
00:32:55.140 gambling yeah yeah that'll do it um now but one of my now i mean you're probably not going to
00:33:05.180 reveal this if it is the case but you seemed somewhat hesitant last time when i was kind of
00:33:10.280 probing yeah the the reason for the breakup but now it's already out there so i was like whatever
00:33:18.040 No, but I almost, not to call you a liar, but while gambling can be an issue, you're both young.
00:33:25.880 So it makes me seem, and you had hesitation as to speaking to the details of, or the specifics.
00:33:32.320 It hints to me that maybe it's actually like a porn addiction, but you want to use gambling as a more optics-friendly cover-up.
00:33:39.880 It's not a porn addiction, I promise you.
00:33:42.060 I mean, how much money did he lose?
00:33:44.640 That I will not reveal, but it was too much.
00:33:46.940 I don't know why that would matter, but...
00:33:48.820 Because it's his personal business.
00:33:50.440 I'm not going to air out my man.
00:33:53.160 I mean...
00:33:54.180 All right.
00:33:56.180 Desert Jorge donated $200.
00:33:59.140 I'm being serious here. 1.00
00:34:01.320 Chair 2, you need to shut the fuck up. 1.00
00:34:03.760 You keep interrupting everyone and talking over everyone just like you were doing yesterday. 1.00
00:34:09.380 Wow.
00:34:09.800 You give women a bad rap doing this.
00:34:12.000 I'm so happy you tuned in to see me both days.
00:34:15.460 I love that.
00:34:16.240 By the way, guys, so we are actually going to do instant TTS, so there should be no delay.
00:34:22.060 $200 TTS.
00:34:23.560 Thank you, Desert Jorge, for your TTS.
00:34:25.480 And we're doing a $100 read and then $10 display.
00:34:29.620 So, what's that?
00:34:31.980 I have water.
00:34:32.920 What?
00:34:33.300 I have water.
00:34:34.120 Tiffany, can you get our water, please?
00:34:35.240 Oh, sorry.
00:34:35.420 I thought we were going from there.
00:34:37.500 Okay.
00:34:37.980 So, going back to you.
00:34:38.920 So, it is gambling.
00:34:40.440 Yes. 0.99
00:34:41.820 Now, and you're a Christian?
00:34:43.200 Yes.
00:34:43.780 What denomination?
00:34:44.900 Non-denominational.
00:34:45.880 Non-denominational.
00:34:47.020 You guys were not waiting until marriage, though, is that correct?
00:34:49.420 We were not.
00:34:50.220 Now we are.
00:34:51.080 Now you are?
00:34:51.800 Yes.
00:34:52.920 Can you explain that?
00:34:54.740 We've been celibate since we broke up.
00:34:57.660 Well, yeah, but you're not back together.
00:34:59.000 Assuming when you officially get back together, would you...
00:35:01.800 We're not.
00:35:02.340 We're still going to be celibate.
00:35:03.400 Whose decision was that?
00:35:05.120 Ours.
00:35:06.920 Okay, come on.
00:35:08.180 No decision is ever truly spontaneously...
00:35:11.820 I would say it was probably more my idea, because...
00:35:14.760 And then you bullied him into it.
00:35:17.220 Bully?
00:35:17.720 No, I'm not.
00:35:18.260 Yeah, you nagged him into it.
00:35:19.860 No, he has a relationship with the Lord, too.
00:35:22.400 You henpecked him into... 1.00
00:35:26.880 Women say, we came to the decision mutually, but you just henpeck the men you're with, 0.51
00:35:32.400 and then you want to claim it was a mutual decision, when really, 99% of it...
00:35:37.180 What do you want to say?
00:35:38.140 He's not lying.
00:35:39.120 No, I've just never heard that term, penheck.
00:35:41.120 So that's why I was like, what does that mean?
00:35:42.540 Henpeck, like a chicken.
00:35:43.400 Like you just keep badgering
00:35:45.220 You chip away at him
00:35:47.320 Until he finally relents
00:35:48.820 Kind of like with 0.99
00:35:50.160 Nagging 0.68
00:35:51.220 This is like a relationship rape 1.00
00:35:55.980 I cannot 1.00
00:35:57.500 I hate you
00:35:58.920 Because it's coercive 0.99
00:36:01.200 No it's coercive 1.00
00:36:02.740 Because women who say 1.00
00:36:04.240 Well if you tell a man no and he asks you one more time 0.99
00:36:07.520 After you say no and you say yes
00:36:09.300 That's coercive rape
00:36:10.740 So in that same way 1.00
00:36:11.800 But it's not rape.
00:36:13.300 It's violating consent.
00:36:15.660 You violate his coercion. 1.00
00:36:16.820 It's rape is sexual assault. 1.00
00:36:18.080 No, because he wants to have sex with her, and she's like, no. 1.00
00:36:21.960 And then so he coerced her into being a celibate soy cuck. 1.00
00:36:25.860 Okay. 1.00
00:36:26.680 She coerced him into being a soy.
00:36:30.940 What does that word mean? 0.80
00:36:32.080 The cuck chair.
00:36:32.660 I don't know what that word means. 0.99
00:36:34.800 What's the term for when you take away a man's balls? 0.98
00:36:38.740 Castration? 1.00
00:36:39.260 You castrated. 1.00
00:36:40.420 Neuter? 1.00
00:36:40.660 You unconsensually 1.00
00:36:43.640 castrated 1.00
00:36:44.560 Is that what a C-U-C-K is? 0.99
00:36:47.880 Stop. You unconsensually 1.00
00:36:49.740 metaphorically castrated
00:36:52.000 your 0.95
00:36:52.940 ex-fiancee
00:36:55.260 I mean, if I wanted to have 0.99
00:36:59.720 sex with him, yeah, he would, but I 0.99
00:37:01.860 also think he's 0.98
00:37:03.740 not upset
00:37:05.740 about this situation. Yeah, fucking right. 0.97
00:37:07.640 He's not upset about this. 0.99
00:37:08.520 Has he had sex with any other women?
00:37:10.660 No, never. We are each other's only bodies.
00:37:14.000 Okay, so both of you?
00:37:15.740 Yes.
00:37:16.180 Okay, so you guys were both virgins when you were high school something or other?
00:37:20.800 Right out of high school.
00:37:22.080 Well, I was 17. He was 21 when we started.
00:37:24.440 All right. And so I'm confused, though. So you're not back together?
00:37:31.360 Not at the moment. I wish.
00:37:34.640 You wish.
00:37:35.360 um now i saw on your uh tick tock um there's a something you recently posted when the person
00:37:46.060 behind the camera loves you was that your boyfriend that was him yeah but you posted
00:37:49.860 just a few days ago yeah well i guess you guys are still in love but you're not together anymore
00:37:55.360 yep but he did he stop the gambling no so he's still gambling yeah unfortunately so that's why
00:38:03.020 you're not back together so he loves you but he's not willing to give up gambling for you
00:38:11.120 tell me about it so he loves gambling more than you that tell me about that's you should tell
00:38:17.100 your children that yeah you know he loves your father loves me but um he wants to waste away
00:38:25.020 your um you know your i mean that's why i call it the wedding you wouldn't marry someone who's
00:38:29.760 gambling all their money away right the thing i would if they were winning the thing really if
00:38:35.460 they're winners winners if they're good at it she's she's like self-aware and knows her worth
00:38:41.100 but she loves this person because they're each other's first everything so it's hard to that's
00:38:45.420 why she's not with him but like you can't really stay away from someone who's your first everything
00:38:50.080 and you guys have had so much time together it's gonna be hard for her to let her let him go i
00:38:55.440 think you just have to stay with them
00:38:57.280 until you hate them kind of thing
00:38:59.200 for you. Maybe that's what would work.
00:39:01.120 Doctinated $200. 0.99
00:39:03.620 Damn Jamie Laith behaviorist 0.99
00:39:05.380 from yesterday is back. 0.99
00:39:07.360 She cooking Andrew today too?
00:39:10.740 Well,
00:39:11.260 she is back for round two.
00:39:13.820 Thank you for the TTS.
00:39:15.220 Appreciate it. I'm hearing all good vibes.
00:39:17.660 Okay. Just wrecking everybody
00:39:19.500 at the table just like yesterday. That's what
00:39:21.340 she's doing.
00:39:22.900 Going back to you.
00:39:26.300 So is he in treatment for the addiction?
00:39:29.040 He is not.
00:39:30.460 I wish he was.
00:39:31.620 So when you're hanging out, but you're hanging out with him.
00:39:34.220 I am.
00:39:35.040 So what is it?
00:39:35.860 You're like Republican in name only.
00:39:39.660 You're still like basically dating, but you don't put a title on it so as to wield some sort of leverage over him. 0.54
00:39:47.360 But you guys, because I mean, you're not fucking even if you do get back together, but you're spending time together.
00:39:54.220 So what is the difference between, I don't understand. 0.81
00:39:57.320 Yeah, he may as well be my boyfriend, but he hasn't asked me yet, so I'm waiting for that.
00:40:02.220 Chad.
00:40:02.980 No, I'm kidding.
00:40:03.580 Let me ask you something, though, just out of curiosity.
00:40:07.720 So does he think he has a problem?
00:40:12.340 Yes.
00:40:13.040 He thinks so?
00:40:14.180 Yes, he knows he has an addiction.
00:40:16.080 Okay.
00:40:17.840 You should send him to her.
00:40:18.940 does he wait is that one of those things where he knows that or he knows that you tell him that
00:40:26.320 is it one of those i don't know you don't know that's a good question yeah because sometimes
00:40:32.660 women can be like oh yeah he knows well how does he know because i told him it's like well that
00:40:37.700 doesn't mean he knows though i think he knows because when he did finally tell me he knew it 0.76
00:40:42.680 like was screwing everything up and he knew it was a problem that's why he did find a problem
00:40:48.020 for you guys, or a problem
00:40:50.600 for you, and therefore a problem for you guys?
00:40:54.560 It was a problem for him first,
00:40:56.780 I think, and then it would
00:40:58.600 have been a problem for us if we had
00:41:00.560 gotten married. Alright, hold on.
00:41:02.600 We have a chat here. Asmongold, ladies,
00:41:04.600 would you date Brian? On one hand, he is tall,
00:41:06.660 6'1", blue eyes, millionaire funny, 1.00
00:41:08.760 only a bit gay. 0.84
00:41:10.960 But he has a strange liking for 0.99
00:41:12.480 big labia, has a dad bod, probably 0.99
00:41:14.640 autistic, and a small pee-pee. 0.99
00:41:16.040 uh okay well that's obviously some lies but uh starting with you which which thing 0.88
00:41:21.900 uh i have a boyfriend um i don't think we would mesh well i think you're too old too old okay
00:41:32.060 no how old it didn't stop you when you're okay go ahead no no i have a boyfriend all right 0.85
00:41:38.660 andrew would you if you're gay like if you're a homosexual i get a way better gay dude than 1.00
00:41:44.240 what the fuck dude he has high standards 1.00
00:41:48.100 Andrew has high standards 1.00
00:41:50.480 what about
00:41:52.280 what about Glenn back there
00:41:53.940 no sorry see he just said high
00:41:56.340 sorry it's gotta be can we bring this beef cake
00:41:58.160 on camera really quick
00:41:59.240 alright so
00:42:01.560 okay relationship
00:42:04.120 status for you in a relationship
00:42:06.400 for how long six
00:42:08.320 months yeah about six
00:42:09.980 six months alright and longest
00:42:12.260 relationship
00:42:12.860 uh i want to say eight months eight months yeah okay and now you have some interesting like
00:42:20.520 tiktoks and instagram reels and you portray yourself quite calmly in person and on the show
00:42:26.460 but uh you're you you consider yourself crazy no that's what you write i would say it's mostly 1.00
00:42:34.940 for engagement i don't just rage baiting yeah content the fuck are all you always rage baiting 1.00
00:42:40.180 Just rage baiters. 0.99
00:42:41.020 Because it does well.
00:42:41.820 It gets good reactions.
00:42:42.940 Yeah.
00:42:44.260 I guess.
00:42:44.720 I do a little rage baiting.
00:42:45.640 So, you know, like, you didn't get me a little bit.
00:42:47.940 Wasn't there some car thing, though, where you, like, ran someone over?
00:42:51.960 Or, wait, what was it?
00:42:52.480 I partially ran him over, yeah.
00:42:54.380 Like, partially.
00:42:55.440 So, not crazy, but ran him over.
00:42:58.040 Her feet slipped.
00:42:58.860 It was his foot, and he was wearing a compact boot.
00:43:01.640 He didn't feel a thing.
00:43:02.980 All right.
00:43:04.220 That's everyone's relationship status.
00:43:07.440 Let me see here. 0.97
00:43:08.600 Perfect crime.
00:43:09.580 I mean, it wasn't really a crime.
00:43:12.480 I think running people over is usually a crime, isn't it?
00:43:15.520 No, not in this case.
00:43:17.180 I wasn't actually, like, slaughtering them.
00:43:19.020 It was an accident.
00:43:19.300 It was. 0.99
00:43:21.520 Okay, so going back to you, you're a Christian?
00:43:24.740 Yes.
00:43:25.360 The first topic I want to start on here, we're going to hit on a couple different topics.
00:43:28.900 We're going to hit some feminist topics, Lindsay Clancy, Cornell stuff.
00:43:33.680 uh but you were on last show and um you are and what's your religion actually christian christian
00:43:40.280 christian christian christian muslim christian christian okay what type are you um
00:43:48.240 it's complicated closest to um i if i had to choose i think my mom's more orthodox yeah
00:44:02.300 So I kind of lean more towards that
00:44:04.420 Do you go to an orthodox church?
00:44:06.480 I used to a lot, yes
00:44:08.300 High IQ
00:44:11.660 Non-denominational
00:44:13.860 Too soon
00:44:15.720 Technically orthodox
00:44:18.020 But I'm not really practicing
00:44:20.040 You were just baptized into it because you're Armenian?
00:44:23.120 Yeah
00:44:23.800 That's how that works
00:44:25.680 Okay
00:44:26.840 So you believe that 1.00
00:44:30.100 feminism is compatible with 0.72
00:44:32.820 Christianity. Yes. 1.00
00:44:34.560 Why don't you flesh that out a little bit?
00:44:38.040 I believe 1.00
00:44:39.040 that feminism means 1.00
00:44:40.700 you want equal rights 1.00
00:44:43.000 for all humankind.
00:44:46.660 And I don't 1.00
00:44:47.120 think a Christian
00:44:49.080 I don't think it's crazy for a Christian to believe that. 0.66
00:44:51.940 Alright. Now 0.98
00:44:52.680 those of you who are Christian or somewhat
00:44:54.920 Christian or whatever
00:44:55.740 actually before we do that 0.98
00:44:58.280 um just going around the table do you consider yourself a feminist just yes or no no yes no 1.00
00:45:05.340 louder please no yes very in the middle like i can't really okay so yes and yes no and no
00:45:16.020 not a feminist no okay i think feminism has done a lot of good though so i can also say yes 0.96
00:45:22.040 like there's just there's a bad rap to it now yeah no i think like old school feminism there's
00:45:28.340 nothing inherently wrong with it like for the sake of just women having basic rights but i think 0.96
00:45:33.760 feminism as of today has been twisted into something very different and more i'd say more 0.73
00:45:39.140 hateful very selective too very selective when you say twisted do you mean the in the interpretation
00:45:45.380 of opponents view it in that way or it is indeed a twisted ideology i would say both honestly i
00:45:54.200 think both is okay um so getting back to the original thing though who agrees with her takes
00:45:58.540 so she believes that well i guess um we have some christians here who are not feminists we have a
00:46:04.920 muslim who is a feminist that we'll get into that just after this um you uh i who agrees with her 0.94
00:46:14.240 That feminism is compatible with Christianity. 1.00
00:46:17.600 My definition of feminism. 0.99
00:46:18.840 Okay, give your take. 0.99
00:46:20.380 I think there are different sects of Christianity,
00:46:22.640 and so for Protestant denominations, absolutely,
00:46:25.340 because they don't have any rules about women not being able to join the priesthood or anything like that.
00:46:30.660 That's not true.
00:46:32.240 Depends on the denomination.
00:46:33.560 Most Protestants, like Presbyterians, for example.
00:46:37.580 You have the minority position, even in Protestants.
00:46:41.540 Anglicans have women priests.
00:46:42.820 preachers you mean yeah yeah that's true but that's still the minority position even amongst
00:46:49.600 protestants so it's true that there's some protestant sex that do that but it is the
00:46:53.500 minority of them that do that but for her she's non-denominational right so even the minority of 0.98
00:46:58.700 non-denominational so it is true like non-doms can believe all kinds of weird shit but i think
00:47:05.080 you can fact check me on this i could be wrong but i think even among non-denominational 0.72
00:47:10.660 female preachers are usually a no-no like I think that it's like a just a minority like maybe 40 or
00:47:19.540 45 something like that I don't remember going back to her definition you say like all lives
00:47:26.580 we know like I think you're more like pro-human rights exactly yeah so it's that's not like that's
00:47:32.240 a whole different thing so feminist is like I don't agree with feminism only because you shouldn't
00:47:37.920 like all girls you shouldn't support all girls you should protect each other as women but in
00:47:43.940 feminists it's gotten so extreme we let other women get away with so much in the name of feminism
00:47:50.440 well okay go ahead um I think that feminism has like two kind of separate claims like the first
00:47:58.620 is that women are equal like spiritually to men or like they have they're as much people as they 0.98
00:48:04.660 are as men are because historically women were considered like beneath in most ways like they 0.93
00:48:09.680 couldn't think about things they couldn't care they um you know were basically like between men
00:48:14.800 and children so i think in that sense feminism was correct and that women do have a very similar
00:48:19.540 experience to men but where they're wrong is in saying they can achieve the same exact things that
00:48:23.760 men can and more so wrong about the overall conclusion that like well women shouldn't care
00:48:28.160 about having kids women should be completely like men and how they behave because just and actually
00:48:33.020 your wife said something like really insightful about this um on the debate with not so erudite
00:48:37.420 that even if not so erudite is like right about all of the benefits of feminism at the end of the
00:48:42.400 day we need women to have children yeah you don't have a society yeah correct that's one of my 1.00
00:48:46.980 primary arguments against it but the reason i think you have a bad definition of it we just 0.86
00:48:53.040 say equal rights which even that wouldn't be compatible with christianity but is because
00:48:58.000 feminism, the emergent principle 1.00
00:49:00.700 that women are oppressed
00:49:02.980 and if they are oppressed 1.00
00:49:04.660 who are they oppressed by?
00:49:06.720 Who would they be oppressed by? 0.93
00:49:08.880 Men. So that would be the 0.99
00:49:10.580 patriarchy, right? And so
00:49:12.580 the whole goal of feminism is to 1.00
00:49:14.600 deconstruct patriarchies because that's how 1.00
00:49:16.640 they get to egalitarianism.
00:49:18.760 But Brian, if you look in my notes
00:49:20.780 I sent you the Webster 1.00
00:49:22.320 definition of feminism. 1.00
00:49:24.680 Or you can look it up on Webster
00:49:26.840 whatever and i just feel like it does not contradict with christianity at all yeah well
00:49:32.440 so okay i'll read it the definition of feminism is a social and political movement based on the
00:49:37.640 belief that all people regardless of gender should have equal rights and opportunities
00:49:43.500 but here's the problem with that i'll grant the definition but you still have to logically grant
00:49:49.680 what i'm saying to you so if women don't have equal rights who's preventing them from having
00:49:55.580 equal rights the patriarchy right so then an entailment of this your definition is the
00:50:01.640 deconstruction of what i guess the patriarchy right so then either way no matter which way
00:50:08.160 we cut it your definition or mine we're just going to land right back on you got to deconstruct
00:50:12.800 the patriarchy in order to have egalitarianism or equal rights and that's why it's rejected
00:50:17.980 by christianity because christianity is patriarchal it believes in the patriarchy christianity big
00:50:23.940 believer in patriarchy man and like yay this is great because you have the christ head man
00:50:29.580 operates as the christ head in a marriage and then the woman is the body right i would say that i'm a
00:50:35.900 feminist still but i am also a christian and i believe that christian christianity is higher
00:50:43.440 than but then how do you how do you reconcile i feel like i don't have to believe every single
00:50:50.780 thing on the list that feminists believe christian christianity yes i should be all for everything 0.99
00:50:56.700 on christian okay so what is what are the things feminism is like i don't know because like feminism 1.00
00:51:02.720 isn't a religion so like i don't have to believe every single thing the thing is is that i would 1.00
00:51:08.540 dispute that i think that feminism has its own dogmas it has its own ceremonies it has its own
00:51:15.060 classes that that it considers it for leadership positions i think that it has dogmas and i'm not
00:51:22.220 sure that maybe you could say it's not a religion maybe closer to a cult um but i i do think it has
00:51:29.140 dogmas and so i you know it's very close it's much closer our fantasy commish says for him it's all
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00:52:04.440 like this than just a political ideology um i think that like even though that's true there
00:52:11.060 isn't a single religion or ideology in the world that doesn't have like splinter sects which
00:52:15.180 also identifies part of that movement but rejects certain parts of the dogma so like
00:52:19.020 for example lutheran uh you know lutherans disagree with catholics about the infallibility
00:52:24.860 of the pope but they have universals and so the thing is it was like with feminism you still have
00:52:29.860 universals and the universal that it has is the deconstruction of patriarchy they're all moving
00:52:35.760 towards that one universal it could be a deconstruction of the way that the patriarch
00:52:39.840 negatively impacts women but not necessarily the idea that like men should generally like be in
00:52:45.860 power well if men are in power it's necessarily going to impact women negatively well i think
00:52:50.540 that the way that women are negatively impacted by it like goes beyond like the legal systems
00:52:55.440 and stuff like that so i think a lot of it is just a general attitude towards women and i would like
00:53:00.180 to like note the thing on catholicism also because yeah you're right that it's very patriarchal but
00:53:05.720 at the same time women are treated with a lot of dignity and a lot of respect yeah but that's the
00:53:09.560 whole point the whole point is that the idea of christianity is that people have are to be treated
00:53:15.560 with dignity right rights is a foreign concept we used to we used to appeal to dignity not rights 0.97
00:53:22.220 because rights are just figments of your imaginations which made up a crock of shit right 0.98
00:53:26.720 where do you find freedom of speech in the bible can you tell me um i don't know the exact verse 0.98
00:53:32.820 but like they tell you to like let people you know like don't oppress people for no reason don't like
00:53:38.740 that's not that's not the idea that you have free political speech and can say whatever you want
00:53:43.240 that's like that those those rights are not entailed by christianity in other words i don't
00:53:48.020 disagree with that but like i don't think this is super relevant to the point that i was making
00:53:52.300 like for example you have the virgin mary you have like all of the other saints and it's not
00:53:56.580 merely about their dignity it's about the fact that like spiritually they are on a like the same
00:54:01.920 kind of level as man and i feel like you don't really see a lot of that in the secular application
00:54:06.160 of the patriarchy what do you mean like i feel like generally women are considered as like
00:54:11.780 secondary characters where is there a secular patriarchy like everything like what do you mean
00:54:18.220 where is there a secular patriarchy like the world right now is not very religious
00:54:22.580 yeah but where is there a secular patriarchy example hollywood enforces patriarchal principles
00:54:28.920 hollywood doesn't have a governmental system but the patriarchy is not a governmental system 0.98
00:54:33.460 It has to have an infrastructure of actual power.
00:54:36.340 Isn't patriarchy also like ideology too?
00:54:38.860 Yeah, but Hollywood's not monolithic.
00:54:41.300 You're just pointing at individualism.
00:54:43.520 Governments would be monoliths.
00:54:44.960 Why does it have to be a government?
00:54:46.240 Where does it say that the patriarchy has to be a government?
00:54:48.020 Because otherwise, what would make it a patriarchy?
00:54:50.400 It's a system of behavior.
00:54:52.240 Like, it doesn't have to be a government. 0.59
00:54:53.620 So five guys in an apartment complex, mostly full of women, can be the patriarchs?
00:54:58.640 Well, it has to be widespread, but absolutely.
00:55:00.500 I mean, in like some religions, for example, you have the man marrying, like lots of women,
00:55:06.000 they're technically outnumbered, but they still have all the power over them. 0.75
00:55:08.840 If you just micro it to any time men have power over women, I think that that defeats 1.00
00:55:15.060 what feminism is calling the patriarchy.
00:55:16.780 I'm not microing it at all. 0.99
00:55:17.340 I'm saying it's a very widespread phenomenon, but it's not grounded in religion.
00:55:21.100 That's my point.
00:55:22.320 Like when you see the informant...
00:55:23.300 I didn't say, hang on, hang on.
00:55:24.340 That's not my question.
00:55:25.200 my question was to ask you where is there a secular patriarchy meaning a governmental system
00:55:31.140 which is because that would be the rights giver and enforcer not hollywood yeah but the hollywood's
00:55:37.260 not going to enforce or not enforce your rights it's going to be it's going to hang on hang on
00:55:41.080 it's going to be some kind of governmental system that does that there's no secular patriarchy where
00:55:46.140 um i think there absolutely is where i don't know well i brought you hollywood as an example but
00:55:52.020 that is not the extent of it i'm talking more so about a cultural um yeah like a cultural
00:55:57.020 framework wherein women are considered lesser than men and it's not grounded on religious
00:56:01.140 principles and it's not they don't have to you don't have to fight hollywood for your rights
00:56:04.660 yeah but the patriarchy isn't merely about limiting like the technical legal rights of 1.00
00:56:09.820 women and like why her definition it is her definition was that it's a social movement 0.98
00:56:14.920 towards equal rights between men and women yeah but equal rights doesn't have to be like oh like
00:56:19.420 technically women can vote at the beginning not just vote but they have to equal what would equal
00:56:24.040 mean what does equal mean i guess equal and how they're treated and the sort of roles that they're 1.00
00:56:28.960 expected to fulfill so then that would be the equal right to vote what do you mean no then how
00:56:33.360 would it be equal you can be unequal even though you're technically legally equal do you agree with
00:56:38.560 that what do you mean like for example well we're talking about legal equality though well okay so
00:56:44.080 if you're not budging on whether it's legal equality or not then i can't disagree with you
00:56:47.840 because I'm talking about something completely different.
00:56:49.900 So if you're saying it has to be a legal system,
00:56:52.200 then yeah, like I agree with you,
00:56:53.400 but I think we need to like-
00:56:54.660 Well, by her definition, it does.
00:56:56.720 Okay, well then in that case, I agree,
00:56:58.240 but I think there's a broader level of the patriarchy.
00:57:01.840 Are you just talking about social infrastructure?
00:57:04.440 I mean, yeah, I guess.
00:57:05.580 What's wrong with that? 1.00
00:57:06.780 Because I think that feminists, 1.00
00:57:09.400 especially in their original movements,
00:57:11.380 what they're looking for
00:57:12.340 is they're looking for ideas of oppression, right? 1.00
00:57:15.020 Now, maybe later stage feminism, 1.00
00:57:16.940 you get to second, third, fourth wave feminism, 1.00
00:57:19.400 you start seeing it move more towards localized social orders.
00:57:24.120 Titus donated $200.
00:57:27.280 Ave Maria,
00:57:28.500 gratia plena dominus tecum benedicta tu
00:57:31.120 in malia ribus et benedictus fructus ventris tui,
00:57:34.640 jesus sancta Maria,
00:57:36.200 me to de eora pro nobis pecat ribus nunc,
00:57:39.240 et in hora mortis nostri, amen.
00:57:42.700 I think the original movement, yes,
00:57:45.180 was grounded in the idea of granting women things like the right to vote. 0.99
00:57:48.280 That's foundational to feminism. 1.00
00:57:50.000 Well, not just the right to vote, but there was other things too, right? 1.00
00:57:53.400 They wanted co-ed schools.
00:57:55.000 They wanted to be able to move towards abortion. 0.93
00:57:57.420 They wanted to be able to have control over the womb. 1.00
00:58:00.120 Those were things which were foundational to feminism too 1.00
00:58:02.540 between the first and second wave.
00:58:04.420 But if you're just talking about localities, right, 1.00
00:58:08.620 then women have choices of moving between localities. 0.88
00:58:11.280 I'm not talking about localities because it's much more... 0.89
00:58:13.720 Then what are we talking about?
00:58:14.520 The culture that I'm talking about is not, like, a culture specific to Hollywood.
00:58:17.720 I use Hollywood as an example because it broadcasts to the rest of the Western world certain ideals or certain expectations that women are supposed to, you know, live up to.
00:58:25.460 And so I'm not saying it's local to L.A.
00:58:27.460 I'm saying it's local to North America, local to Western countries.
00:58:30.860 Yeah, but those are choice-based.
00:58:31.660 And so if you want to define that as local, that's fine. 0.99
00:58:32.980 That's all choice-based shit. 0.98
00:58:34.200 Like, you don't have to. 0.99
00:58:34.820 Wait, I can't just move.
00:58:36.120 You don't have.
00:58:36.780 No, but you can just turn off the TV if you don't want to watch Hollywood propaganda.
00:58:40.620 That's true, but there's a lot.
00:58:41.000 Like, how would that be patriarchal enforcement?
00:58:43.800 Well, it's true that I can turn it off, but that doesn't mean I'm no longer affected by it.
00:58:47.120 Just because I don't internalize those ideas doesn't mean that everyone else that I interact with on some level internalizes them.
00:58:51.820 Yeah, but there's no way to enforce any of that.
00:58:54.060 Like, there's no one forcing you to watch it, so there's no patriarchal system there.
00:58:58.980 It's just your choice to watch movies.
00:59:01.660 Well, you can enforce it.
00:59:03.500 It's not really a choice if I'm not choosing about whether the person sitting next to me has seen that movie or not.
00:59:08.620 But there are ways to enforce it.
00:59:10.240 For example, you can require, like, movies to have something like DEI, like, not necessarily the way that it has been done historically.
00:59:17.000 So then now we're back to government.
00:59:19.140 Well, I mean, yeah, the government can put certain guidelines and regulations.
00:59:22.040 No, they're the only ones who can.
00:59:22.920 No, no, no, no.
00:59:24.100 What do you mean?
00:59:24.880 Who else is doing it?
00:59:26.160 Who else is like, Hollywood, you have to do it this way because the government says you don't have to do it that way?
00:59:31.220 Who says that?
00:59:31.840 On the short term, yes, perhaps.
00:59:33.680 But I'm talking more about long-term cultural change, which very rarely actually comes from the top.
00:59:38.420 um you know the government can trigger it by passing certain policies but you can also affect 0.55
00:59:43.540 change from the ground up by you know having more women be conscious of you know the ideals that
00:59:49.380 they care about why are you moving going into hollywood and making certain movies why are you
00:59:53.200 like squirreling around here because now you're back to how you can have possible social change
00:59:59.720 through grassroots moves like so what no one's talking we're talking about what we're talking 0.93
01:00:03.980 about what entails a patriarchy yeah we already covered that what would entail a patriarchy would
01:00:09.060 be enforcement you have to have enforcement there's nothing patriarchal about it like what
01:00:13.680 would be patriarchal about five guys who are like you have to do this and you went no you can say
01:00:17.880 no to that you went no you can't really like say no in that particular situation because they can
01:00:22.740 like force you to do anything all right so it's about enforcement okay but that doesn't mean that
01:00:26.980 you can't dismantle it and like i don't see your point because for everything that you you keep on
01:00:31.900 bringing up bizarre examples of what you think are patriarchal that don't have any enforcement
01:00:36.760 mechanism like well you do you just don't like it what's the enforcement mechanism of a hollywood
01:00:41.360 movie people who care about certain ideals for example the communists uh you know in like the
01:00:46.840 50s and 40s when they wanted to make movies subtly promoting their ideology they got into hollywood
01:00:51.100 and then they make those movies yeah you can make like that's not force that's not force okay i
01:00:56.380 never said that's that's your what the hell do you think enforcement is enforcement doesn't have
01:01:00.860 to only come through force okay well how does you how do you enforce something without force
01:01:04.440 i just told you how you can have okay so you're not going to use force to enforce something okay
01:01:09.300 i'm just going to go do that and you're the remedy is what propaganda it's not the remedy is what if
01:01:15.400 you say i'm not going to use any type of force but i'm enforcing that and then i go do that thing
01:01:20.940 what's the remedy well the remedy is we gradually change people's minds that's not we force them to
01:01:26.780 That's not enforcement.
01:01:27.420 I don't disagree with you.
01:01:28.740 That's not enforcement.
01:01:30.040 It's not enforcement in the way that you define it.
01:01:31.860 No, it's just not enforcement, period.
01:01:33.440 You're enforcing nothing.
01:01:35.160 What are you enforcing?
01:01:36.260 You can enforce it on a more specific level.
01:01:39.440 For example, if I want to make a movie promoting certain ideals and say someone's giving me
01:01:43.380 a lot of money for it, I can hire whoever I want.
01:01:45.700 I can just hire people who agree with me, and in that sense, I'm enforcing it. 0.99
01:01:48.980 That's not enforcing shit. 0.98
01:01:50.260 What's the enforcement mechanism? 0.97
01:01:51.580 I feel like this is just semantics.
01:01:53.340 I don't really...
01:01:53.800 The semantics are super important.
01:01:54.980 Okay, you know, like, I don't disagree on, like, this very, like, niche definition that you're using.
01:02:00.300 But what I'm talking about, because the actual, like, conversation is not...
01:02:03.860 Does enforcement have the word force in it?
01:02:05.740 Yes.
01:02:06.180 Why?
01:02:07.120 Probably because it derives from that.
01:02:08.860 Because if you're going to...
01:02:10.140 It's literally what it means.
01:02:10.840 And I'll explain why.
01:02:11.840 I'll just give you the logical exercise.
01:02:13.820 Maybe because you seem to think that this is semantics with no merit or something.
01:02:18.960 This is illegal to drink the beer, let's say.
01:02:21.760 Okay?
01:02:22.560 You say, but I'm not going to enforce that. 1.00
01:02:24.980 Okay, well, then fuck you. 1.00
01:02:26.380 I'm going to drink the beer. 1.00
01:02:27.560 The consequence is what?
01:02:29.300 Social shame.
01:02:30.560 Okay, so there's no enforcement, right?
01:02:32.580 That's the enforcement.
01:02:33.460 The enforcement is just social shame.
01:02:35.020 Yeah.
01:02:35.500 Okay, so you're going to enforce everything with social shame.
01:02:38.100 Yeah, like in Utah, they don't sell coffee, like, basically anywhere.
01:02:40.060 And it's not illegal.
01:02:40.900 It's because it's socially frowned upon. 0.99
01:02:42.680 Okay, so, but if I don't care about the social structure and say, oh, fuck all of you and do it anyway, what's the consequence? 0.99
01:02:50.360 Yeah, and for that specific individual example, I agree. 0.99
01:02:53.840 Like, I see your point, but...
01:02:54.960 That's completely unrelated to the conversation at hand because we're not talking about individuals.
01:03:01.300 We're talking about a society.
01:03:02.700 And so it doesn't matter if one individual out of 100 chooses not to follow that.
01:03:07.100 The point is that people in Utah don't drink coffee.
01:03:09.680 And there's nothing forcing them not to because they care about social shame.
01:03:12.660 And most people care about social shame. 0.72
01:03:13.880 Are people in Utah mostly Mormons? 0.81
01:03:16.340 Yeah, but even if they're not, their friends are mostly Mormons.
01:03:19.120 Is it against their religion to drink coffee?
01:03:21.420 Yeah, but their friends.
01:03:21.920 Hang on, so people who are not Mormons, are you saying in Utah they don't drink coffee?
01:03:26.860 I'm sure some people don't or do it far less.
01:03:30.220 Okay, but they're still drinking coffee, right?
01:03:33.120 They have less options to drink.
01:03:34.740 But we're not talking, hang on, I'm going to make a concession because it's a concession that I don't even understand why we're arguing it.
01:03:43.600 I agree with you that social shame at scale works.
01:03:46.520 I'm not making the argument it doesn't.
01:03:48.700 Would you agree it's a fair enforcement?
01:03:49.680 What I'm saying to you is that if you want to have a patriarchy, the only thing that would make it patriarchal is if it had mechanism for enforcement.
01:03:57.660 So would you agree that social shame, since you said it's effective, is that an enforcement mechanism then or no?
01:04:02.740 It wouldn't be an enforcement mechanism.
01:04:04.540 It would be a mechanism to change something.
01:04:06.680 So what's the difference other than the use of force?
01:04:08.740 Force.
01:04:09.380 Yeah, so why is force central to this?
01:04:11.120 Why isn't change central to this?
01:04:13.100 Well, change is central to it, but it's changed the use of force because then there's no disagreement. 0.99
01:04:18.740 if it's a patriarchal society and you say fuck you i don't want to do what men say and they can't 0.99
01:04:24.580 force you to do what they say how the fuck is it patriarchal again oh i'm really glad you brought 1.00
01:04:29.060 this up because like while yes i can technically opt out of it i i will lose a lot of my like 0.88
01:04:35.120 things that meet my needs as a human being which is also like a form of oppression and it's the
01:04:39.040 reason why people don't do it more often uh social connections for example like having a relationship
01:04:44.620 You know, because most people, you know, adhere to these ideals to some extent.
01:04:48.660 And so as an example of, you know, rebelling against the patriarchy, it can be like not wearing makeup.
01:04:52.680 It can be wearing very unflattering clothes.
01:04:54.660 It can be like not catering to the male gaze at all.
01:04:56.880 A lot of both men and women care about those things and they'll be less likely to interact with you. 0.99
01:05:01.520 Or you'll be less likely to get like positions high up in your community if you like look like shit as a woman. 0.99
01:05:06.360 If you're a man, it doesn't matter. 1.00
01:05:07.980 But hang on.
01:05:08.580 And I'll concede this point that, sure, I'm sure that if collectives of men wanted to enforce certain social behaviors, they could. 0.93
01:05:17.820 But would you say that women having social behaviors with each other would make something a matriarchy? 0.92
01:05:24.680 No. 1.00
01:05:25.400 Well, then why would it make it a fucking patriarchy? 0.98
01:05:28.440 Because those are expectations that have directly to do with the notion that women are subservient to men or lower than men in some way, and so they need to appeal to them. 0.98
01:05:38.080 Well, who's enforcing that, though?
01:05:40.640 I just... 1.00
01:05:41.160 Women? 0.95
01:05:41.360 We just talked about this. 1.00
01:05:41.960 Women are enforcing it? 1.00
01:05:43.340 I mean, yeah, to some extent. 1.00
01:05:44.840 Okay, so how is it not a matriarchy, then? 1.00
01:05:48.320 Well, because it's forced upon them. 1.00
01:05:50.480 Where's the force?
01:05:52.100 Force can be both literal and allegorical.
01:05:54.840 Where's the allegorical force?
01:05:56.360 So, I'll give you an example.
01:05:58.000 By the way, hang on, hang on, stop for a second.
01:06:00.840 What is an example of allegorical force?
01:06:03.800 I was literally saying it, and you interrupted me.
01:06:06.260 I just want to make sure...
01:06:06.920 For example, a mother forces her child to eat the oatmeal, and she says, eat the oatmeal, the child doesn't want to eat it.
01:06:12.960 Now, she's not legally passing a policy to make him eat the oatmeal.
01:06:16.740 She's oftentimes not even saying, I will hurt you in some way or whatever, but the child knows that there will be some sort of...
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01:06:51.600 Negative consequence to this.
01:06:53.220 Okay, hang on.
01:06:54.780 Let's go with that example.
01:06:56.000 It's a good one.
01:06:57.120 Child knows there's going to be a negative example.
01:06:59.720 Something negative is going to happen to him, right?
01:07:01.900 Yeah.
01:07:02.540 What do you think the negative thing will be
01:07:04.660 if the child says, I'm still not
01:07:06.800 doing it, mom? It depends on
01:07:08.740 the parent. In some cases, it can be physical
01:07:10.780 abuse, usually some sort of verbal
01:07:13.060 veratement. Yeah, a lot of parents hit their
01:07:14.880 kids, but even if you don't want to...
01:07:16.920 Okay, well, then we can...
01:07:18.860 From the child's point of view, it's
01:07:20.820 abuse. If I came up to you right now and hit you, 0.99
01:07:22.900 you would kick me off set. Now, imagine that 0.99
01:07:24.760 you're a little kid and someone twice your size is doing that
01:07:26.840 to you. It feels like abuse, even if you don't want to
01:07:28.760 What if I ran over and hit you because you're about to stick 0.88
01:07:30.820 your finger in a light socket? Is that abusive? 0.99
01:07:33.380 Um, no. No?
01:07:34.660 Because it's corrective.
01:07:36.320 It's corrective.
01:07:38.100 Corrective, physical, and then abuse.
01:07:39.880 Yeah, that's not abusive, right?
01:07:41.260 You would be like, sure, that's fine.
01:07:42.280 The only reason why this example works is because there is immediate danger.
01:07:45.560 For example, if I was doing something else that you wanted to correct, like eating a lot of candy or something like that, which in the long term you would definitely want to stop, it would not be appropriate for a parent to hit their child for eating candy.
01:07:56.360 Why not?
01:07:57.180 Because it has really negative ramifications for them and because it makes them feel really bad, and we should try to avoid making people feel bad.
01:08:02.920 What if you were in the military and you were told not to eat rations because, well, that could have a negative effect on your unit's morale, and they used a corrective measure on you that was physical?
01:08:14.320 Is that appropriate?
01:08:15.340 It depends on whether it's a country that has conscription or not.
01:08:18.240 I'd say if it doesn't and you volunteered—
01:08:19.620 No, who cares if it does or doesn't?
01:08:20.580 We're talking about a moral—
01:08:21.660 Hang on, hang on.
01:08:22.580 We're talking about something moral here.
01:08:24.420 Well, if someone—you need some level of abuse in the military in order for it to function effectively.
01:08:29.980 And I'd say that if you as an adult make the rational choice—
01:08:31.920 But I could just say we need some function of abuse for children so that they function correctly.
01:08:36.100 Well, a child can't consent into that relationship.
01:08:39.400 They even more reason why you should use correction because they can't reason.
01:08:43.100 I don't disagree about using correction.
01:08:44.800 I disagree about hitting your kids.
01:08:46.840 Why?
01:08:47.540 Because it hurts them.
01:08:49.760 Why do you want to hurt kids?
01:08:51.300 Because it's a corrective policy to get them to stop doing behavior which can hurt them worse in the long run.
01:08:57.100 I think there needs to be gradations of what behavior you're talking about.
01:08:59.720 Because if it's just something like eating candy, then that's something that I'd say is quite minor and can be handled in other ways.
01:09:05.580 And so the benefits don't outweigh the cost in that case.
01:09:07.560 You could just talk to them.
01:09:08.840 You can, like, ground them or something like that.
01:09:10.420 That's more appropriate.
01:09:10.980 Let me ask you a question.
01:09:12.260 Do you think that it would be more effective to go up to little Johnny who's eating the Snickers at night when you tell little Johnny not to? 1.00
01:09:18.160 He says, Johnny, don't eat the fucking Snickers. 0.99
01:09:20.000 And Johnny's like, okay, fine. 1.00
01:09:23.020 And then you catch Johnny's eating the Snickers again.
01:09:24.620 He's saying, now stop, Johnny.
01:09:26.120 Stop eating the Snickers and take away your toys.
01:09:28.980 Johnny goes, okay, fine, I'll stop.
01:09:31.620 Next night, he's right back in there, and he's eating the Snickers.
01:09:35.400 Now, you could take the Snickers out of the house.
01:09:37.640 Or you could say, all right, Johnny, I warned you three times, smack!
01:09:40.820 And then Johnny never eats the Snickers again.
01:09:43.200 Now, let me ask you a question.
01:09:45.140 Which is actually better for little Johnny's long-term outlook?
01:09:49.740 The fact that he understands that there is immediate consequences
01:09:53.800 that can be physically painful to him
01:09:56.400 if he does things that are against the rules 1.00
01:09:58.380 or enabling him to negotiate like a fucking terrorist 0.99
01:10:03.480 for things that aren't actually even his 1.00
01:10:05.440 because he has reasoned out 1.00
01:10:07.100 that people will actually deal with his bullshit. 0.99
01:10:09.700 I think that's a false dichotomy 0.99
01:10:11.460 because the third option that you should actually do
01:10:14.300 is probably take them to a therapist of some kind.
01:10:16.760 Oh, God.
01:10:17.360 Can I please...
01:10:18.040 For a Snickers bar?
01:10:19.160 Are you going to take me to a therapist for a Snickers bar?
01:10:21.420 I agree with Andrew.
01:10:22.780 Can I finish my point?
01:10:23.740 Yeah.
01:10:23.980 yeah because what you're doing by hitting them you may deter it in the short term but what you're
01:10:29.640 really doing is you're covering up an underlying problem that is going to continue manifesting
01:10:34.380 itself you can't can i just please finish i didn't interrupt you i didn't interrupt you
01:10:38.140 okay and i said sorry immediately because i thought you were done speaking so when you hit them
01:10:43.260 in the absence of physical consequences in the future they're they're going to think there's
01:10:47.380 nothing wrong with this behavior when they move out of your house they're going to eat all the 0.98
01:10:50.220 fucking snickers in the world just totally hang on hang on i just want to make sure i get this 0.98
01:10:56.640 right so kids who get spanked for eating the snickers bar when they're not supposed to 0.99
01:11:01.020 they're going to eat all the snickers bars as soon as they're not getting spanked i just want 0.99
01:11:05.520 to make sure i got that right not 100 because that's an idiotic claim that you just made up 1.00
01:11:10.580 it's a made-up claim just you pulled out of your ass no no no hang on the scenario may be made up 1.00
01:11:18.420 But you'd have to have real data to back up the idea within the hypothetical for the claim. 0.98
01:11:23.180 What's your data?
01:11:23.900 So it's fine for you to do this.
01:11:25.420 That corrective behavior has worked.
01:11:27.320 Did you know that spanking kids produces the same mental response as, like, getting essayed?
01:11:32.300 No, it doesn't.
01:11:32.860 No, it doesn't.
01:11:33.260 Well, they did a study on it.
01:11:34.440 So you can disagree with the data.
01:11:35.520 And was the study replicated?
01:11:37.960 Was the study part of a meta-analysis?
01:11:40.540 We can pull it up.
01:11:41.200 And I'll take my point back.
01:11:42.520 It's your study.
01:11:43.380 It's your study.
01:11:44.500 I'm going to jump in because you're not letting me speak either.
01:11:47.280 Oh, go ahead.
01:11:47.720 Okay.
01:11:48.200 So I agree with you because, you know, in Turkey and Iran, I lived in both.
01:11:52.820 They did corrective measures in school.
01:11:54.800 And I learned from that.
01:11:57.040 I, like, whenever my parents had a rule, like, we're in a new country when we came to the U.S.
01:12:01.120 I didn't come home when the lights turned on.
01:12:03.080 And we weren't in the nicest neighborhood at that time.
01:12:05.640 You know what I didn't do?
01:12:06.600 I didn't come home when the lights were turned on.
01:12:08.240 Of course not.
01:12:08.820 And I was only, what, seven?
01:12:12.160 You know how dangerous that is?
01:12:13.440 And I was closer to the border at that time.
01:12:15.280 so my parents did a corrective measure and you know what I didn't do I got my I got my booty
01:12:21.800 inside the house way before the lights turned on and listen to what they did because for my safety
01:12:27.600 if I didn't listen to them if they didn't do that maybe I could have been trafficked
01:12:30.760 we were literally by the border they have reasons why they do corrective physical
01:12:35.760 you know what else too I'm going to point this it's anecdotal right we're not going to be able
01:12:40.480 to dive into deep psychological studies here and this is this is purely anecdotal I'll admit
01:12:46.660 just like what you're saying is but have you ever been in a place where like you walk in 0.99
01:12:53.400 and the kids are just being obnoxious fucking brats and they're blowing their straw everywhere 0.99
01:12:58.520 and they're screaming and they're screeching and the parents are like trying to reason with them 0.99
01:13:03.060 and they just won't be reasoned with well now I remember when I was a kid I went into a place like
01:13:09.700 this, right? Where it was like a pizza parlor or something. And the family next to us, right?
01:13:16.720 Had that problem. The kids were like being obnoxious. And then me, my sister, we sat there
01:13:20.580 with our hands folded until the pizza came. And the waitress said, my, your kids are really well
01:13:25.740 behaved. And he said, well, yeah, if they get out of line, I knocked the shit out of them. That's 0.99
01:13:29.080 what he said to him. He was like, I knocked the shit out of, which is true, right? That's what 0.99
01:13:32.960 he did. And guess what? Yeah. I didn't see the parents over there knocking the shit out of those
01:13:38.760 kids because i got a feeling that they would have sat there with their hands folded and not 0.98
01:13:42.360 ruined everybody's good time gentle parenting that's that doesn't work all the time well the
01:13:48.140 first part of the picture that you painted i that's definitely quite relatable to me because
01:13:52.320 like mcdonald's and everything i see that a lot but the only times where i actually see that level
01:13:57.360 of misbehavior is not when they're reasoning with them it's when they're ignoring them so i think
01:14:01.340 that yes i agree with the problem that there needs to be some sort of a solution to like kids
01:14:05.820 misbehaving no one is disagreeing about that i'm simply saying that hitting them in most cases is
01:14:11.440 based is not good um and i think that you can you can like punish them in other ways like i don't
01:14:17.720 know no phone no ipod but that's what you start with so god's wrong christianity is fake spare
01:14:23.300 the rod spoil the child well i think the rod can be taken metaphorically and i think the catholic
01:14:28.080 right now discourages definitely not met beating is different than spanking and the catholic church
01:14:34.020 draws a delineation between the two the catholic church globally still uses corrective measurement
01:14:38.900 inside of catholic uh schools depending on the nation that they're in they still use physical
01:14:45.860 correction a lot of uh evolution and growth and i think that's really good and i think in some
01:14:50.460 places maybe that's not fully taken uh full force right now because we're still operating on like
01:14:55.320 you're just conflating western values with catholicism it's only in western nations where
01:15:00.580 you have this competition, not
01:15:02.680 in Eastern nations. Yeah, and Western values are superior.
01:15:04.560 What are you talking about? Which one?
01:15:06.740 All of them. Which one? The one
01:15:08.520 that we don't hit our kids. That's
01:15:10.180 the superior one? That's what we're talking about
01:15:12.560 right now. That is for sure superior. Now we're like
01:15:14.120 leaning towards... So, Western value, first of all,
01:15:16.620 is not that you don't spank your kids.
01:15:18.780 That value in the West was that you
01:15:20.440 did... I don't know if
01:15:22.460 you know this, but like, our original founders,
01:15:24.940 they were a bunch of kid 1.00
01:15:26.540 beaten sons of bitches, the Puritans. 0.99
01:15:28.620 and so what do you mean it's a western value this culture is not static right and so when 0.99
01:15:33.840 you're comparing like even in the culture right now when you're comparing something that happened
01:15:38.500 100 years ago you can't compare it to now you have to compare it to other places at that same
01:15:42.340 time it's the most other cultures are yeah i'm reclaiming the time here you guys went completely
01:15:48.820 off track from the original conversation we're talking about feminism and it's if it can be
01:15:53.720 reconciled with uh christianity so get back to the original topic please go ahead
01:15:59.480 me or uh you jumped in okay um i think some hold on actually before that i need you to put your
01:16:06.640 microphone back where it was please don't move your microphones guys leave them where they are 0.99
01:16:11.440 do not move them the microphones are lava they've been ordained by fucking god where they need to be 0.97
01:16:19.020 do not move them continue i think some aspects now hold on you gotta my god bro okay tilt your 0.98
01:16:25.860 microphone so it's i don't know how that happened no the other way towards down a bit go ahead 0.96
01:16:33.480 continue i think that some aspects of feminism can definitely you know be adopted to christianity
01:16:38.660 also depends on which sect we're talking about but the overall conclusion that men and women
01:16:42.760 should have the same expectations of them no but that's the what what's the delineation from the
01:16:50.640 feminist ideology that there shouldn't be the exact same expectation between men and women well
01:16:56.200 i think you can agree with the premises but not the conclusions i think the premise that women
01:17:00.140 have historic then it's not feminism it's some other ism yeah and so if it's conclusion hang on 0.69
01:17:05.600 if it's premise premise premise conclusion feminism and then you say that conclusion 0.98
01:17:10.040 is compatible with christianity no no i said premise the premise of feminism is compatible
01:17:14.320 with christianity the premise of feminism is total egalitarianism yeah and i think that we
01:17:20.280 can adopt that in some ways in how we treat people but not in the same like material expectations
01:17:25.680 then that's not feminism yeah so that's why i prefaced it by saying you know we can take 1.00
01:17:31.440 then that's not aspects of feminisms that's aspects of other things that aren't feminism
01:17:35.180 a premise would you agree that a premise is an aspect of a claim yes so it's an aspect of 1.00
01:17:41.420 feminism the premise is an aspect of unless the unless the premise is entailing all of those
01:17:46.920 things as being no it's not hang on as being the requisite of feminism sorry i don't understand 0.98
01:17:52.820 can you like conclusion feminism would follow from what the premise that men and women are equal
01:17:58.120 right so then if you say so then if you say the entirety of that premise actually leads to this
01:18:03.020 other conclusion right but then you say well that but I have to slightly change the premise
01:18:08.240 they're not talking about the same thing I'm changing the conclusion okay so what's the
01:18:11.560 conclusion conclusion is that men and women should have equal expectations of them
01:18:14.760 okay I don't disagree with that but what do you mean by that so by premise I mean the idea that
01:18:22.140 men and women are equal now there can obviously be many ways in which something is equal and I
01:18:27.700 think that feminists are right about the idea that men and women are emotionally oftentimes equal
01:18:31.680 mentally equal um but not equal in their teleological function or what their purpose is
01:18:37.280 in society okay but i think so what's our conclusion well the the reason why the conclusion
01:18:44.420 of feminism that men and women should have the same expectations of them is they don't believe
01:18:47.700 in any sort of teleological purpose they don't believe in a society it's like very individualistic
01:18:51.560 it sounds like you just want not feminism no i think that we should take the like certain aspects
01:18:57.000 of feminism for instance the idea that there's no telos by your own admission no there is a telos
01:19:01.760 What's the telos?
01:19:03.000 That women are ultimately meant to be mothers, and men are ultimately meant to be providers. 0.91
01:19:07.140 No, no, no, that's not the feminist telos, though. 1.00
01:19:08.680 Yeah, there is no telos in feminism. 1.00
01:19:10.140 Right, exactly. 1.00
01:19:11.020 There's no teleology there.
01:19:12.580 And so I think that's why the premise fails.
01:19:14.180 But if you approach the premise with that in mind, then it's a good premise. 1.00
01:19:19.160 The idea that women have been oppressed. 0.91
01:19:20.720 Yeah, but it's just not feminism, though. 0.74
01:19:22.780 I never said it was feminism. 0.99
01:19:24.020 I said it was an aspect of feminism, and you agree that a premise is an aspect of feminism.
01:19:27.300 So then feminism's not actually compatible with Christianity.
01:19:31.300 The conclusion is in the premises.
01:19:34.080 Okay, so in the premise of feminism, the premises are, you think that the premises equals feminism, but you're wrong, that's actually wrong, and that the conclusion equals Christianity?
01:19:47.320 No, so the claims of feminism are contingent on both the premise and the conclusion.
01:19:51.140 I agree with the premise, but not the conclusion.
01:19:53.480 Okay, I understand.
01:19:54.640 So what does the premise actually lead to as a conclusion? 0.99
01:19:58.700 I think that we need to change, especially when you look at the time when feminism was developed.
01:20:04.380 I think the correct way to approach that would to see at how men have been misunderstanding women or mistreating them.
01:20:09.300 So we're changing the premise?
01:20:11.640 No, the premise is the same, that women are oppressed and that women are equal in a lot of ways to men, that they're not acknowledged.
01:20:19.100 So they're not able to self-actualize in the same way.
01:20:21.540 They're not treated like they have the same mental capacity.
01:20:23.600 So I think that, you know, the correct and hopefully what we're moving towards right now, especially with the rise of the manosphere, will be forced to find some sort of synthesis of these ideas and return to something like traditional values, but with more respect being paid to women's humanity.
01:20:40.260 Scoot one seat over. Go ahead, Andrew, with your response.
01:20:42.360 Yeah, I'm not sure, though.
01:20:44.960 You're right there.
01:20:47.320 Let me just ask you to, maybe we can repeat this last part.
01:20:51.000 so
01:20:52.620 our fantasy commish says for him
01:20:55.900 it's all about the friendships
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01:21:49.040 you can't until we address this
01:21:51.380 because it's important to the semantic of the argument.
01:21:53.160 I am addressing it.
01:21:54.060 No, you're actually not.
01:21:55.880 It's a thought of...
01:21:56.300 You don't know where the sentences are.
01:21:57.440 Well, I just got your first premise
01:21:59.080 and this is what I'm disputing.
01:22:01.160 Okay.
01:22:01.660 So, in dispute one, 1.00
01:22:04.200 feminism also has this whole part 1.00
01:22:06.580 of deconstructing... 1.00
01:22:07.760 Deconstructing the patriarchy.
01:22:11.960 Remember that part?
01:22:13.120 Sorry?
01:22:13.640 We have to deconstruct the patriarchy.
01:22:15.260 That's part of the premises here.
01:22:17.580 Yeah, in some ways. 1.00
01:22:18.560 Not in some ways, it's the major part of feminism. 1.00
01:22:22.780 Okay, if I dismantle, I don't know, like the FBI, which is part of the government, 1.00
01:22:30.160 am I dismantling the whole government?
01:22:31.900 No.
01:22:32.020 Is this an attack on the whole government?
01:22:33.420 No.
01:22:33.780 Okay, but it's still an attack on part of the government.
01:22:35.560 Sure.
01:22:36.220 Okay, so we need to attack parts of the patriarchy. 1.00
01:22:38.720 Yeah, right, but feminism wants to remove the entirety of the patriarchy. 1.00
01:22:41.520 Okay, that's why. 1.00
01:22:42.340 I don't, and I'm a feminist. 1.00
01:22:44.400 Well, no, you're calling yourself that, 1.00
01:22:47.600 but you already agreed with me that by your definition
01:22:50.500 you would be moving towards an oppressor press class
01:22:52.640 where you have to deconstruct the patriarchy.
01:22:54.280 Can I please finish my original point?
01:22:56.120 Well, if you can address mine first
01:22:57.760 as to how this actually is ever going to get to feminism 1.00
01:23:00.720 when the premise itself is a deconst... 0.94
01:23:02.040 I need to do a thought experiment in order to get there.
01:23:03.980 Okay, let's do it.
01:23:04.980 Okay, so if in the year 1900,
01:23:08.280 someone was talking about all of the premises
01:23:10.920 that I talked about, like men and women are equal, 0.99
01:23:13.160 mentally spiritually women are oppressed they would be lumped in with the feminists in fact 1.00
01:23:19.100 there were many feminists who were a lot less confrontational and a lot less demanding which 0.96
01:23:24.140 ones um i don't remember the names off the top of my head but according to my professor in
01:23:28.600 university they weren't all monolithic and i think that's a pretty intuitive claim that not all
01:23:32.560 movements are monolithic i didn't say they were monolithic i asked you which one specifically
01:23:36.380 would say that because you're just looking for equal rights or equal representation
01:23:40.100 but you don't really believe men and women are the same which ones believed that i mean most of
01:23:47.420 the women who were feminists were married or had children so obviously they no the most of them 1.00
01:23:52.440 actually were cheating on their husbands and traveling the world and doing all kinds of 1.00
01:23:56.040 heinous shit read occult feminism by my wife rachel wilson that's the source can you tell me 1.00
01:24:01.640 some names though uh yeah we can go through tons of names of feminists but let's start with let's 0.99
01:24:07.140 Before we even get into that, let's move back to our original premises, okay? 1.00
01:24:12.180 I just want to know, from your premises of compatibility with Christianity, not a part, I don't want pieces of feminism, 0.81
01:24:20.260 I want to know how feminism, how you define it, gets to conclusion of not feminism, but Christianity.
01:24:28.120 I think that certain premises are compatible with Christianity.
01:24:30.960 I don't understand, like, what else you're asking.
01:24:33.160 Because you said, that's a complete contradiction what you said before.
01:24:36.560 Before you said, I agree with the premises, but not the conclusion.
01:24:40.220 Now it's, we've got to change the premise again.
01:24:41.860 No, no, no. 0.87
01:24:41.980 I said the premises are compatible with Christianity.
01:24:44.480 Are. 0.62
01:24:45.040 They are.
01:24:45.720 They're not, though.
01:24:47.020 So I'm not changing my claim.
01:24:48.460 You said I changed my claim.
01:24:49.440 Yes.
01:24:50.080 You did, though.
01:24:51.100 You just said aspects of the premise.
01:24:52.960 You just said aspects of the premise.
01:24:54.580 I said aspects of the movement.
01:24:55.560 No, you said aspects of the premise.
01:24:57.180 Okay, whatever.
01:24:58.120 Okay, I'll concede it, just for the sake of argument.
01:25:00.800 You can watch it later, but you did say aspects of the premise.
01:25:03.140 Okay.
01:25:03.680 So how do we get to the full premises of? 1.00
01:25:06.560 Feminism being compatible with Christianity. 1.00
01:25:10.820 Well, the conclusion isn't. 0.99
01:25:12.540 The premise is. 1.00
01:25:13.760 Yeah, so give me the full premises of feminism and how it's compatible with, or how the conclusion becomes Christianity. 1.00
01:25:21.000 Yeah, so women are oppressed. 1.00
01:25:23.300 Historically, they were oppressed. 1.00
01:25:24.680 Yeah.
01:25:24.980 And we need to rectify that in some way. 1.00
01:25:26.520 That's not feminism. 1.00
01:25:28.040 That's the premise of feminism. 1.00
01:25:29.140 No, the premise of feminism is that they're oppressed by a patriarchy, so the patriarchy must be deconstructed. 1.00
01:25:35.140 in its entirety or we can't get to we can't get to it how do you get to egalitarianism if there's
01:25:42.080 a patriarchy the conclusion is egalitarianism i'm not agreeing no no no no that's part of the
01:25:48.100 premise is we're moving towards egalitarianism we get there by the conclusion deconstruct
01:25:52.300 patriarchy the premise is that when women are like emotionally equal that doesn't mean that
01:25:56.920 they're biologically equal i don't think there's a single like feminist in the world who agrees 0.90
01:26:00.620 with that then why the fuck are all the feminists in the world even in fourth wave feminism opening 1.00
01:26:05.700 up male-dominated jobs to women knowing that they do terrible in them because they don't think 1.00
01:26:11.360 they're going to do terrible in them probably yeah because i don't believe because they see
01:26:15.680 no distinction the whole point of that was that we're all interchangeable widgets men and women
01:26:20.180 are completely identical they're ontologically identical there's no distinctions the only reason
01:26:25.240 that they're not all heavy machine mechanics is because they've been oppressed and away from
01:26:29.660 school otherwise there would be just as many
01:26:31.680 of them doing heavy machine maintenance as men
01:26:33.740 I don't think that there's a disagreement 0.68
01:26:35.500 on women being physically weaker I think 1.00
01:26:37.640 that not a single maybe really stupid 1.00
01:26:39.620 feminists would disagree with this but they are 1.00
01:26:41.820 biologically different women on average 1.00
01:26:43.700 are weaker 1.00
01:26:44.880 but not they would just say but they can compensate
01:26:47.540 for that and other things and the reason that they
01:26:49.660 don't go into these industries is traditionally
01:26:51.540 due to oppression from the
01:26:53.540 patriarchy the patriarchy is a
01:26:55.660 monolith has to be in order to
01:26:57.600 have enforcement so they want the monolith
01:26:59.460 to be torn down to the next monolithic stage,
01:27:02.240 torn down, torn down. 1.00
01:27:03.400 Conclusion of feminism is always deconstruct patriarchy. 1.00
01:27:06.600 Always. 1.00
01:27:07.660 Well, I think that a lot of women are probably capable 1.00
01:27:10.100 of doing a lot of things that they are not considered 1.00
01:27:13.060 to be capable of.
01:27:13.860 They just have to put in a lot more work into it.
01:27:16.320 So I want the premises that lead to the conclusion,
01:27:19.980 deconstruct patriarchy, which is compatible with Christianity.
01:27:23.960 So the general premise in both secular and religious, 0.53
01:27:28.020 um you know religious patriarchy is the idea that women are you know not experiencing the same world 0.98
01:27:33.860 they're like a lower being in some sense and so you wouldn't talk to a child the same way that 0.95
01:27:39.540 you would talk to an adult because you just assume that they are not comprehending it their brain is
01:27:43.200 like elsewhere and uh schopenhauer actually talks about this and even though he famously was you
01:27:48.160 know anti-feminist anti-women he said that if a woman were to completely isolate herself from
01:27:52.940 society and not have any uh you know feminine or masculine influence in her life i would love for
01:27:57.780 you to get to the point of how the premises actually equal the conclusion of christianity
01:28:02.820 wait also wait wait hold on you brought up uh arthur schopenhauer he's not christian okay
01:28:09.060 i never said he was and he wouldn't have to be for example yeah but but we're that's but why
01:28:15.900 we're getting this just so off into the weeds of you actually explaining how the premise equal 1.00
01:28:21.840 Christianity as conclusion well the general idea is that women can hypothetically in a vacuum you
01:28:28.640 know achieve the same things that men can but society cannot be set up this way because it is
01:28:32.820 you know disutilitarian it creates bad outcomes women are having less children children are having
01:28:37.320 less time with their mothers and so on and so forth so we're forced to sacrifice certain things
01:28:41.040 in order to take the premise to its overall conclusion and so what I'm saying is that we 0.93
01:28:44.400 take the premise that women could hypothetically in a vacuum be equal to men but we shouldn't be
01:28:48.660 encouraging them to do this we should be encouraging them to be more feminine because
01:28:51.400 it's better for them and better for society as a whole yeah that still doesn't tell me how we get 0.78
01:28:56.380 to conclusion christianity even if you told me all the things you think but that's your whole
01:29:01.920 point was that i disagree with the conclusion but agree with the premises therefore the premises
01:29:06.720 should equal christianity i disagree with the conclusion of feminism i agree with the premise
01:29:11.360 of feminism so you can adopt the premise of feminism to various conclusions depending on
01:29:16.880 how you want to enforce it okay so let's start equality that's a christian value okay is it
01:29:25.080 in some sense yeah what sense all men are equal before god and that includes that's not
01:29:29.820 can you show me the bible where it says that i don't have the verse off the top of my head
01:29:34.720 there is no verse there most definitely is you can google it sure what what do you uh all men
01:29:40.060 are what equal in the eyes of god all men are for judgment purposes not oh yeah okay hang on
01:29:45.360 that's different that means that their soul is the same that doesn't mean that they have equal
01:29:49.460 rights to each other yeah that's what you said is egalitarianism that would be egalitarianism
01:29:55.700 are you talking about the idea that god will judge everybody equally is not yeah that's an
01:30:00.880 no that's not what we're talking about we're talking about egalitarianism which is equality
01:30:04.620 between the sexes when it comes to rights no okay well if you would have specified when it
01:30:08.860 comes to rights then no what the hell did you think we meant by egalitarianism that god would 0.62
01:30:12.600 that god would condemn bad christians to hell and hang on hang on that god would condemn bad 0.72
01:30:17.900 christians to hell and atheists that's the egalitarianism we're talking about religion 0.98
01:30:22.520 such as christianity is based on a conception that there is an immaterial world and things
01:30:27.320 like the soul matter and so souls being equal is kind of a like probably more important than
01:30:33.340 whether our bodies are equal yeah okay but the dispute here is not that god will judge people
01:30:41.000 equally okay that's not it hang on if if that's the case then we've always been egalitarian
01:30:47.000 because that's all the church has ever taught so that's why i was confused so wait so we just
01:30:52.820 always been feminist well no you said is it egalitarian if you would have specified they've
01:30:57.340 always so we've just always been egalitarian because the church believes that your soul
01:31:01.320 will be judged you just said they always believe that so yes in that sense they have always been
01:31:05.160 egalitarian they've always been egalitarians right because that's what we meant by egalitarian
01:31:08.760 Do you agree that there's different ways that you can apply the same concept?
01:31:11.800 So, for example, if you say...
01:31:13.380 If you're being super bad faith, yes. 0.94
01:31:15.680 For example, the founding fathers...
01:31:16.560 Hang on, hang on.
01:31:16.980 I just want to make sure.
01:31:18.140 You don't think it's bad faith for you to take the term egalitarian in a political sense
01:31:23.880 with a political social movement like feminism and say, well, in the sense that our souls
01:31:30.520 are equal.
01:31:31.700 Well, yeah, because you're...
01:31:32.500 You don't think that's bad faith at all?
01:31:34.380 No, I think you should have heard of the question better.
01:31:36.260 You don't think that that's major goalpost moving when we're talking about?
01:31:38.360 I think you should have worded the question differently.
01:31:40.220 Okay, well, you know what?
01:31:41.120 I'll be hyper-specific from now on, but just remember that that's what you asked for.
01:31:46.060 Yeah, that would be great.
01:31:47.200 Okay.
01:31:47.600 Can I just bring an example?
01:31:49.040 So, like, the Founding Fathers, for example, they identified as egalitarian.
01:31:52.500 They believed that, like—
01:31:53.480 They were not egalitarian.
01:31:54.500 They identified as egalitarian, but they weren't egalitarian according to your definition.
01:31:58.560 They didn't identify as egalitarian either.
01:32:00.340 They didn't see non-white people as people, so in their heads, they were egalitarian.
01:32:04.720 so i just want to make sure i got this right uh they did see many non-white people as people
01:32:13.260 okay so i don't know what you're ah no we're allowed to be bad faith you should have said
01:32:18.440 it better okay they did see them as people didn't they not all of them hang on they saw them as
01:32:24.100 people not the ones i'm talking about which ones i think you're i think you're just context denying
01:32:28.700 like i think like what then give me the people group that they didn't see as people black people
01:32:34.720 Wait a second.
01:32:35.620 They saw them as three-fifths of a person?
01:32:38.380 Yeah.
01:32:38.780 So that's a person.
01:32:40.140 Lesser than people.
01:32:40.720 That's a person.
01:32:41.900 You need to phrase it better.
01:32:43.480 If something is one-third of a leader.
01:32:44.360 You got to phrase it better.
01:32:45.620 Is it a leader or is it one-third of a leader?
01:32:46.340 You got to say it better.
01:32:47.180 If something is one-third of a leader, is that a leader?
01:32:49.700 Yeah, of course.
01:32:50.660 No, it's one-third of a leader.
01:32:51.820 They have one-third of leadership abilities.
01:32:54.260 Okay, whatever.
01:32:54.880 So they're still – are they leaders in comparison to people who don't have one-third leadership abilities?
01:33:00.000 No, no, no. I said leader.
01:33:00.700 Like a leader of water.
01:33:01.240 Are they leaders compared to people –
01:33:02.280 No, I said a leader of water.
01:33:03.180 Are they leaders compared to people who don't have one-third leadership ability?
01:33:07.020 I said a liter of water.
01:33:07.920 Are they leaders compared to people who don't have the one-third leadership ability?
01:33:15.140 What does leadership ability have to do with this?
01:33:16.760 Because you said they're one-third of a liter.
01:33:18.140 Are they a liter compared to people who don't have the one-third of a liter?
01:33:20.420 No, a liter of water. 0.84
01:33:21.500 Like water.
01:33:22.260 Wait, wait.
01:33:22.940 Like water.
01:33:23.620 A liter of water.
01:33:24.560 Let me finish.
01:33:25.180 Let me finish.
01:33:26.140 Okay.
01:33:27.140 I'm going to ask you the question specifically.
01:33:28.900 I want an actual answer.
01:33:30.280 Okay.
01:33:30.420 Not more pivoting.
01:33:32.080 If you say a leader, you're three-fifths of a leader.
01:33:34.740 You say, is that real leadership?
01:33:36.260 Is that real leadership compared to people who aren't three-fifths of a leader?
01:33:39.640 Comparatively, yes.
01:33:40.400 Okay, great.
01:33:41.020 So then, yes, they're leaders.
01:33:43.500 But I wasn't talking about leaders like people.
01:33:45.480 Oh, no, all you're doing is you're just saying leader.
01:33:48.200 I said a liter of water.
01:33:49.180 I took the cup to motion to it.
01:33:52.280 Oh, I'm sorry.
01:33:54.000 You should have been more specific.
01:33:55.380 My bad.
01:33:56.240 I said it several times explicitly, and you interrupted me each time.
01:33:59.420 Oh, my bad.
01:33:59.960 okay well now we get back to you being specific again or you could stop being bad faith we can
01:34:05.200 i always i always was specific i said a liter of water 20 times but whatever got it maybe i'm
01:34:11.240 mute maybe you can't hear me i don't know but go ahead um yeah so the founding fathers they
01:34:15.940 identified as egalitarian but they weren't fully egalitarian i think that right now actually they
01:34:20.980 didn't identify as egalitarian they they identified within a certain context no right and so i think
01:34:26.340 about within like all movements because movements evolve they kind of change their values but that
01:34:31.480 doesn't mean that the identity doesn't matter and you know the united states was founded on
01:34:36.100 egalitarian premises at the end of the day which were relatively more uh you know egalitarian than
01:34:41.400 what was in britain at the time where only were only people who were like lords or had like
01:34:45.460 property or served the king what was the egalitarian principles that it was founded under
01:34:49.620 democracy the idea wasn't a democracy it's a republic okay whatever it has aspects of a
01:34:55.300 democracy that's not a good by and the aspects it was a democratic tell me in that aspect of that
01:35:01.320 democracy was there universal suffrage no because no egalitarianism no yeah there wasn't that was
01:35:08.420 my point is that they believed themselves to be egalitarian they didn't believe themselves to be
01:35:14.180 egalitarian they didn't believe themselves to be egalitarian in the context that you're demanding
01:35:17.860 but in their own heads for the people who they considered people they were more egalitarian than
01:35:23.280 was comparative to where they came from so it's still like it's about the direction they're moving
01:35:28.340 in the direction of egalitarianism that's okay so i'll tell you from the principles if you're
01:35:33.620 just saying compared to a king they're more egalitarian sure but you're that was revolutionary
01:35:41.700 but you're also saying they were egalitarian so you're equivocating it's like stop equivocating
01:35:48.000 you're using the ambiguity of language to move between meanings were they egalitarian or not
01:35:52.920 The answer is no, but they also were.
01:35:55.480 We're now in contradiction.
01:35:57.140 Well, no, it's just kind of like a complex thought.
01:35:59.580 Like, I don't know, like not everything is black and white.
01:36:02.040 Like, I don't know, for example, there were civil rights.
01:36:04.120 In logic it is.
01:36:04.720 I'll give you an example.
01:36:05.520 In logic it is black and white.
01:36:07.540 Like, for example, like during the civil rights era, there were some people who argued for desegregation, you know, black rights activists.
01:36:14.940 There were some people who argued for continuing segregation because they had different notions of what the future should look like.
01:36:21.660 but they were ultimately grounded in the same premise and so i'm saying like to go back to
01:36:26.040 the conversation that we're talking about with feminism which is how you're gonna ever tie it
01:36:30.200 to actually being christian ever so for example like my goal is desegregation but i see that like
01:36:38.360 other civil rights activists are arguing for segregation and say you're talking to someone
01:36:42.780 who has only ever seen these activists argue for segregation you're like well how would you get to
01:36:47.000 desegregation from these premises
01:36:49.060 when everybody else is saying that we need
01:36:51.060 to, you know, continue segregation to some extent.
01:36:53.380 So, obviously, like, we 1.00
01:36:55.040 haven't seen enough Christian feminists 1.00
01:36:57.200 out there. We don't actually know what that looks 1.00
01:36:59.060 like, but in theory, the premises
01:37:00.900 can have a Christian conclusion. Can we ever get to
01:37:02.880 where it intersects
01:37:05.060 the premises equal Christianity?
01:37:07.740 Ever. The premises don't equal 1.00
01:37:08.880 Christianity. Then why the fuck? 0.99
01:37:11.140 What? You said, I 1.00
01:37:12.900 agree with the premise,
01:37:15.480 not the conclusion,
01:37:16.400 to agree with the...
01:37:17.600 For 50 years, Canadians have wondered
01:37:20.000 what the names of IKEA furniture mean.
01:37:22.620 Like Natopa, the guardrail for children's beds.
01:37:26.160 Natopa means giving your favorite person room to grow.
01:37:30.000 It means their safety and your piece of...
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01:37:43.360 Look, he's wearing little pajamas.
01:37:45.740 That's so cute.
01:37:47.660 Conclusion. 1.00
01:37:48.240 Conclusion must equal Christianity, right? 1.00
01:37:51.000 Yeah, I agree with it. 0.91
01:37:51.920 Then where are we going to get to the premise equals Christianity ever?
01:37:55.880 Well, the premise is compatible with Christianity.
01:37:57.680 It doesn't necessarily have to be Christian, but...
01:38:00.200 How can it be compatible with Christianity and not be Christian?
01:38:03.740 Because the church, like, changes its interpretation of scripture all the time.
01:38:07.300 Then whatever its interpretation is right now, it still would have to be compatible with it. 0.97
01:38:11.440 Yeah, I think it is compatible with some of the earlier feminists 1.00
01:38:14.260 who claim that women 0.98
01:38:15.080 weren't literally lesser than men,
01:38:17.060 I think that that is compatible.
01:38:18.340 You've changed, by the way,
01:38:19.000 that's the second time
01:38:19.920 you've changed your claim
01:38:20.800 because before you said
01:38:21.620 absolutely the premises
01:38:22.760 lead to the conclusion of Christianity,
01:38:24.580 then it's they don't. 1.00
01:38:25.400 No, I said they can.
01:38:27.080 But they don't.
01:38:28.080 But they can.
01:38:28.760 But when are you going to make them?
01:38:30.740 If I take a premise
01:38:31.960 like women are oppressed by men
01:38:34.540 in some ways,
01:38:35.380 then I can adopt that to,
01:38:37.100 for example, if I had a daughter,
01:38:38.520 I can parent her in a way
01:38:39.840 that she is aware of this.
01:38:41.220 Yeah, I don't need the meta.
01:38:42.200 I just need the argument.
01:38:43.720 Well, the argument is that you can let the premises influence how you conduct church activities.
01:38:48.600 That's meta.
01:38:49.960 I'm not interested in having an argument about the argument.
01:38:52.860 I'm just interested in the actual argument.
01:38:55.340 How do we get premises, feminism, equal Christianity?
01:38:59.220 Is that you can take the premises of feminism and have outcomes that are not incompatible with Christianity.
01:39:03.920 That's my entire claim.
01:39:05.200 I feel like I've been very clear, and I want other people to speak now.
01:39:07.800 Okay, so some aspects of the premise, now it's some aspects of the feminist premise are equal with Christianity.
01:39:14.440 Yeah, the main ones. 0.85
01:39:15.460 Okay, got it.
01:39:16.980 You know, if that's all you're saying, if all you're saying is some aspects of the premise of Christianity or feminism are compatible with Christianity,
01:39:25.680 well then sure, for instance, in the premise they include the word women and men. 0.64
01:39:30.120 So, I mean, clearly that's compatible with Christianity.
01:39:32.420 Yeah, but like, I was trying to say earlier.
01:39:34.600 It's such a weak argument.
01:39:36.260 I don't know if I actually got this thought out because you kept interrupting me.
01:39:39.860 I literally was quiet.
01:39:41.700 I was super quiet and let you prattle forever.
01:39:43.920 You've both interrupted each other.
01:39:45.460 But scoot your mic this way and continue.
01:39:46.260 Let you prattle forever and never get to the actual conclusion here.
01:39:50.420 Yeah, so can I please give you a thought experiment?
01:39:52.580 Because you introduced the idea of thought experiment.
01:39:54.300 Here, give the thought experiment instead of asking if you can give the thought experiment.
01:39:57.780 No, because I tried multiple times.
01:40:01.000 Stop the meta.
01:40:01.940 Go ahead.
01:40:02.960 I'll listen.
01:40:03.380 Play it back.
01:40:03.940 I won't even say a word.
01:40:05.140 Go ahead. 1.00
01:40:05.280 In the year 1900, you said women are oppressed by men.
01:40:09.460 Most church leaders would probably have an issue with that, and they would say it's, like, offensive in some way because men are supposed to have authority over women.
01:40:16.540 So now we can reinterpret that to say that, you know, women are oppressed, but that doesn't mean that they should have—
01:40:21.880 Just real quick, moving to the—just to make sure I understand the thought experiment.
01:40:25.780 You consider that oppression.
01:40:28.000 Consider what exactly?
01:40:29.180 Men having authority over women.
01:40:31.420 No, not necessarily, but I think—
01:40:33.280 then i don't understand why we're in a thought experiment about what the church thinks about
01:40:38.100 oppression when you don't believe it's oppression oh just because that you said that like right now
01:40:42.800 the things that i'm saying are incredibly banal and it's a quote-unquote weak argument they were
01:40:46.280 not always considered banal and historically women were quite literally considered to be
01:40:50.640 like around the level of children so if you were if you were to say that women have the same and
01:40:55.700 to go back to schopenhauer real quick where he said that if a woman were to isolate herself
01:40:59.280 completely, she would have the same or higher level of mental and spiritual development as a
01:41:03.780 man. But because they don't separate themselves, you see different outcomes. So the thought
01:41:08.360 experiment is that the things that I'm saying, which you're saying are now banal. We're not
01:41:12.200 banal when feminism got started. You still needed feminists to say those things. When did I say 1.00
01:41:17.000 it's banal? You said it's a really weak argument. It was a weak argument. So why is it a weak
01:41:21.020 argument? It's a weak argument because there's no actual argument. It's just a meta. It's
01:41:25.940 literally a meta conversation about the framework of the argument you want to make without you ever
01:41:31.220 making the fucking argument well the question it's just a meta about the argument you could make if 0.80
01:41:37.440 you made an argument so hang on can we agree all you've done is make an argument about the kind of 0.99
01:41:45.080 argument that you could make you can define it however you want is that what you did hang on
01:41:50.120 I'm not subscribing to this redefinition.
01:41:52.720 Yes or no.
01:41:53.380 No, I'm not answering that.
01:41:54.540 I just answered the question.
01:41:55.640 All right, I'm not answering it.
01:41:55.920 Answer the question.
01:41:56.900 You can define it however you want.
01:41:58.140 All right. 1.00
01:41:58.820 The question was if feminism is compatible with Christianity. 0.96
01:42:02.060 I answered the premises are compatible. 0.97
01:42:04.200 All right.
01:42:04.700 Not the conclusions.
01:42:05.660 I'm having a smoke.
01:42:09.700 You were raising your hands.
01:42:11.120 Why don't you come on in? 1.00
01:42:12.260 So I believe there's levels of femininity or feminism. 1.00
01:42:15.560 And so there's like the feminists who are also misandrist. 1.00
01:42:19.900 and they're like smash the patriarchy like they're very like modern with their beliefs and then
01:42:24.700 there's can you can we all agree that we are grateful for what the first feminists did like
01:42:32.420 they gave us our right to vote our right to have jobs so personally since i believe that it's okay 0.99
01:42:39.260 for or wait hold on women could work the myth tiffany please be on the fucking what the fuck 1.00
01:42:46.860 oh my god bro yeah that's that first off that's complete the myth that women couldn't work that's 1.00
01:42:52.540 completely ridiculous but go on continue to point first right women could always work and always 1.00
01:42:56.820 did work but they just didn't get paid what sorry what they didn't have equal pay equal pay but they 0.99
01:43:02.680 could have worked right uh they didn't have equal pay i mean that's a dubious claim um there was
01:43:08.540 legislation in the 1960s that uh legally equalized but when was the first stage uh first phase of 1.00
01:43:15.080 feminism was that in the 60s or was that in the 1900s yeah but when then you tell me when equal
01:43:20.960 pay was established prior to the 1960s i said they didn't have equal pay where's the evidence for 1.00
01:43:26.640 that um the fact that you needed an act to equalize pay we need to differentiate between uh were women 0.93
01:43:33.860 unequally paid or was there legislation passed that guaranteed uh to the best of the law's ability 1.00
01:43:40.260 equal pay. Do you think that women were always 1.00
01:43:42.160 equally paid before 1960? 0.66
01:43:45.540 Maybe, maybe
01:43:46.220 not. Yes or no? It depends on what
01:43:48.260 they were doing. You said that's not an answer.
01:43:51.740 Is it 0.99
01:43:52.100 plausible that a woman was 0.99
01:43:54.040 unequally paid? Sure, I'll grant that. 1.00
01:43:55.880 Do you think that was common or do you think that was like
01:43:57.700 0.1% of instances?
01:44:00.140 Well, broadly, men and women had different jobs,
01:44:02.080 so it's really hard to say. Which is actually
01:44:04.160 well, hold on. Much of the modern
01:44:06.300 feminist discourse surrounding the wage
01:44:08.240 gap
01:44:08.580 that still exists to this day,
01:44:12.220 much of it ignores the fact that men and women
01:44:15.380 fundamentally participate in the labor force differently. 0.89
01:44:21.200 So if women don't work as many hours, 1.00
01:44:24.940 if they work different jobs, 1.00
01:44:26.060 if they have different levels of seniority,
01:44:27.940 if they pursue different fields,
01:44:29.240 the wage gap is basically just taking all the money men make
01:44:33.560 and all the money that women make and just comparing that, 0.99
01:44:36.380 which i hope you would agree is completely retarded yeah but i'm right so like they 1.00
01:44:41.760 when we're talking about equal pay like were we um were there women in coal mines in the 1950s 1.00
01:44:48.620 who were being unequally paid or or were there just no women in the coal mines because women
01:44:53.520 were in a place of privilege not having to uh really if we go back uh i would say kind of around
01:45:00.720 the it all depends how you when you exactly categorize the industrial revolution but like
01:45:05.300 when there's mass industry, let's say prior to the 1940s, 1930s, you didn't have cushy air
01:45:13.680 conditioned office jobs. Much of the labor and work that was available was physically demanding
01:45:20.420 labor that women were either not well suited for or completely incapable of doing due to their 1.00
01:45:27.960 physical inferiority. Yeah, I don't disagree with that, but I think that no one does. When we're 0.69
01:45:32.840 talking about the jobs that women could do that were the same as men and they could be legally
01:45:37.740 underpaid once that began happening in like the like later of the later part of the 20th century
01:45:42.120 they probably were underpaid an example um like an accountant or something if you could pay a woman
01:45:49.280 less then you would pay them less right there's nothing compelling you to pay them the same as
01:45:53.140 you would a man then you would hire market forces if i could pay anybody less yeah so i mean market 0.99
01:45:57.860 forces so the woman could refuse to take the job yeah and where is she gonna go with all the stigma 1.00
01:46:02.480 against women you know having mental jobs jobs that require mental uh you know thinking and you 1.00
01:46:09.380 know she could go into private practice she hypothetically could but in the vast majority
01:46:13.800 of cases most people don't have the freedom to do that especially when there's you know a lot 0.77
01:46:17.660 of stigma against women working so even if we grant that there are instances or certainly were
01:46:22.340 instances of unequal pay uh what's your point that they even though you like they were always
01:46:28.000 in the workforce they weren't equally paid and there's a lot of inequality that still went on
01:46:31.440 Yeah, but, okay, granting that, what was the original?
01:46:34.120 I just interjected.
01:46:35.240 It was my point originally.
01:46:36.740 Okay, so continue with your point.
01:46:38.260 So I personally think it just feels wrong to not call myself a feminist if I am grateful for what early feminists did.
01:46:48.460 Like in the very beginning, like in the 60s. 1.00
01:46:50.860 So, like equal pay, the right to vote.
01:46:52.540 But that's been guaranteed since the 60s, the right to vote since 1920.
01:46:58.020 It has been, but I also believe. 1.00
01:46:59.840 Okay, so what are feminists fighting for right now? 0.90
01:47:01.440 Um, personally, as what I, as a feminist, what I believe, I think like the women that 0.92
01:47:09.180 aren't in America, in America, we have equal rights.
01:47:11.420 Well, hold on.
01:47:12.100 Okay.
01:47:12.400 But not everyone in the world has equal rights.
01:47:15.060 Are we going to talk about like the, I don't know the political happenings of Senegal.
01:47:19.120 I don't know the political happenings.
01:47:20.760 I'm not a very political person.
01:47:21.540 I don't know.
01:47:21.840 Stop, stop.
01:47:22.600 I don't know the political happenings of Eritrea.
01:47:25.120 So if you want to escape away from the conversation as it relates to the United States or certainly
01:47:30.060 western countries um okay what which uh mid-african country would you like to discuss
01:47:36.540 and what's your expertise in said african mid-african country i don't know can you name
01:47:41.640 can you even name a mid-african can you name a country that's in middle africa okay so then why
01:47:46.620 the fuck do you want to talk about africa or some like other irrelevant country that isn't like um
01:47:53.040 that isn't uh really pertaining to the conversation because i just think that there are levels of 1.00
01:47:59.760 feminism and i think the highest level of feminism where it's like misandrist that want 1.00
01:48:05.200 to smash the patriarchy yeah that doesn't really go hand in hand with christianity but all feminists 0.90
01:48:09.840 that i am i feel like it does work because all i want is for everyone to have equal rights okay 0.91
01:48:16.620 but then in the world not just in the united states then you're an egalitarian not necessarily
01:48:20.880 a feminist because feminine feminism is trying to deconstruct the patriarchy right so and if 1.00
01:48:27.980 christian is patriarchal it's completely contrary to your religion which you say supersede you say 0.98
01:48:33.500 christianity supersedes feminism so if something in christianity is like not feminism's retarded 0.84
01:48:39.140 i'm somewhat um changing the terms out here a little bit uh but basically to put it in blunt 0.89
01:48:46.100 terms christianity would and does view feminism as retarded that is true it does so you can't 0.96
01:48:54.860 At least, I wouldn't say retarded. 1.00
01:48:57.340 Well, that's not how Jesus would put it. 1.00
01:48:59.440 It views it as an immoral system, which is going against teleology.
01:49:05.620 Yeah, I said premises.
01:49:06.600 But going back to you really quick.
01:49:08.480 Wait, wait, wait.
01:49:09.100 Hold on.
01:49:09.460 I said certain premises, not the conclusion.
01:49:11.740 Okay, but so going back to you.
01:49:12.740 Now it's certain premises. 0.98
01:49:13.980 What are the, so what exactly are the things I guess you're advocating for as a feminist? 1.00
01:49:19.720 Because we have equal pay, unless you think we don't. 1.00
01:49:24.040 In the United States.
01:49:25.200 I don't know.
01:49:25.900 I don't know.
01:49:26.160 You don't know.
01:49:26.660 Okay, well, hold on. 1.00
01:49:27.400 I think, well, we know, we do know that women in Afghanistan can't even speak in public. 0.93
01:49:32.660 That's an issue. 0.84
01:49:33.500 And I believe that feminism fights against that issue. 1.00
01:49:38.640 Okay, but, hold on. 0.99
01:49:41.220 Let's, yes, okay, women in Afghanistan have a lacking of rights. 0.98
01:49:44.780 Are you prepared to make an argument as to women's lacking of rights in the United States or the West?
01:49:48.460 No, because I'm not very read up on any of it. 1.00
01:49:51.080 Well, that's convenient. 1.00
01:49:52.060 On one hand, you know about the sad state of affairs of Afghani women, but you can't speak to your, like, localized... 1.00
01:49:59.200 I know that it's happening, but I don't know how the politics... 0.98
01:50:02.060 You know what's happening. In Afghanistan?
01:50:03.240 In Afghanistan. 0.77
01:50:04.020 Well, I'm asking about the United States or the West.
01:50:06.560 Okay, and I'm not...
01:50:07.400 But what would be the purpose... 1.00
01:50:08.740 So you think that there's no feminist aims or goals to be achieved in the United States or the West? 1.00
01:50:17.880 No. 1.00
01:50:19.020 So everything...
01:50:19.520 Wait, we got it down pretty good around here. 1.00
01:50:21.480 So then why are feminists not directing all their advocacy overseas? 1.00
01:50:27.980 I don't know, because I'm not an advocate. 1.00
01:50:30.060 I'm not out there protesting and stuff.
01:50:32.080 It's like no true Scotsman, no true feminism. 0.96
01:50:36.100 You're saying, well, feminism is blah, blah, blah. 1.00
01:50:38.600 But if we look at all the feminists in the United States, in the West, 1.00
01:50:42.340 I mean, we'll narrow it down to... 1.00
01:50:43.980 I would say that a lot of them are doing too much. 0.73
01:50:45.480 Okay, but if we narrow it down to the feminist advocacy in the United States, 0.99
01:50:49.360 let's just start off with the institutional and systemic power that feminism has let's look at 0.87
01:50:54.100 the university system nearly every single university and college in the united states 1.00
01:50:59.040 all of which have like seven eight nine figure ten figure um endowments hundred million billion
01:51:08.780 dollar endowments the university system in this country has massive systemic and institutional
01:51:14.500 power. Every single college, or almost every single college and university, has a feminist 0.98
01:51:19.300 study, women's study, gender study program. Okay, do you think the entirety of what these feminists 1.00
01:51:26.540 are espousing in their gender studies classes pertains and is germane to Afghani women? Or are 0.99
01:51:34.560 they talking about fucking retarded mansplaining and decades-long debunked wage gap nonsense 1.00
01:51:41.020 in western countries and in the united states not that's for her you wait your turn 0.99
01:51:47.520 i mean i'm not in any of those classes so i wouldn't know what they're speaking on but 0.99
01:51:53.080 you're taught you're saying that fem you're feminist we're talking about feminism we live
01:51:57.720 in the united states um it just seems like a little bit of a you're not really prepared to 0.95
01:52:05.080 defend your position so you're just going to defer to okay well in afghanistan they need 0.53
01:52:10.000 feminism and like in certain do they not no what do they need yeah but i'm not interested 1.00
01:52:15.720 in order to get their rights back look i don't care they are extreme feminists that's why they're 1.00
01:52:19.440 well you got to understand there's a there's a worldview distinction so i don't believe in the 1.00
01:52:25.120 concept of right i just i think that they're made it's just made up trash we just make it up just 0.99
01:52:31.440 made up bullshit so do you think it's okay what's happening well you see how you make a dis you make 0.98
01:52:37.120 a distinct claim immediately for 0.99
01:52:38.960 is it okay for bad
01:52:40.760 for this thing I think bad to happen
01:52:42.640 but it's like
01:52:43.920 let's back up a little bit
01:52:45.720 it's the idea of rights themselves 0.89
01:52:47.760 they're not feminist 0.99
01:52:49.060 they're socially constructed right
01:52:51.040 they're not real tangible things
01:52:53.840 we make them up
01:52:54.680 that's the whole point of a right
01:52:56.780 Andrew is speaking descriptively
01:52:59.360 very logically
01:53:00.340 you make very logical arguments
01:53:02.820 correct
01:53:03.400 that's the way my mind works
01:53:05.640 Very, like, nitty-gritty, like, very in the specifics of things.
01:53:08.640 The reason I think that that's important to understand is because I think you might think, well, yeah, but who cares, Andrew?
01:53:15.320 We all operate within the confines of rights.
01:53:17.240 And it's like, that's true, but really all rights are as force.
01:53:20.880 And because I believe that men will always naturally have a monopoly on force,
01:53:24.860 I think that the deference to rights will always be to the enforcement arm, which will always be men. 1.00
01:53:29.480 And so feminism is an impossibility because they're always appealing to a patriarchy to enforce rights. 1.00
01:53:36.600 And so, basically, these women in Afghanistan who can't, they don't have speech, right? 1.00
01:53:41.480 They don't have freedom of speech. 0.91
01:53:43.200 Who do they have to appeal to to get it? 1.00
01:53:45.440 Men. 0.59
01:53:46.200 Men, right?
01:53:47.460 So, really, they can't actually enforce deconstruction of patriarchy without appealing to a force apparatus, which is going to be the men.
01:53:56.100 So, ultimately, the rights grantors are the men.
01:54:00.760 That's the idea, right? 0.64
01:54:02.320 And so that's my worldview distinction, is that I see the world descriptively as all rights essentially come from the enforcement of men. 0.73
01:54:10.140 And in the religion of Islam, like for Afghanistan, the reason they have to ask permission for men is because there's no feminism there. 0.80
01:54:18.040 Right, so wouldn't they need it? 1.00
01:54:20.020 They would need to, but who would they have to appeal to? 0.87
01:54:22.020 Yeah, they would have to ask men. 0.95
01:54:23.480 They'd have to appeal to men. 1.00
01:54:24.400 And so I think feminism, ultimately, the idea of deconstructing patriarchy is an impossibility because you're just endlessly appealing to an enforcement arm, which is going to be met. 0.98
01:54:34.140 I'll let you have or do you have a response to Andrew's force doctrine stuff here to the stuff about rights? 1.00
01:54:41.740 Yeah. So first, I have like two things I want to say.
01:54:44.600 But first, I don't understand why just because you have to appeal to someone to get your rights.
01:54:49.160 The idea of you having rights is, I think you used the word impossible, or if you want to correct me on that.
01:54:55.260 So I'm making a purely descriptive claim. 0.94
01:54:58.460 The claim is that women cannot enforce for themselves rights.
01:55:04.580 Yes. 1.00
01:55:05.040 They always have to make an appeal to men as the enforcement arm. 0.91
01:55:08.640 That's the descriptive claim. 0.82
01:55:09.880 Or government, correct? 0.82
01:55:12.280 Government is always going to utilize an enforcement arm, so again, they're going to be appealing to men. 0.52
01:55:16.500 So there's lots of groups in our society who cannot enforce their rights, who rely on others to enforce their rights, who should have rights, like children, for example. 0.84
01:55:24.840 Well, you just made the ought claim, though.
01:55:27.800 Andrew's speaking descriptively.
01:55:29.440 Do you agree with the descriptor?
01:55:31.380 When you move into the ought, the second you say should, we're now in ought territory.
01:55:36.740 I'm speaking first and foremost about what is true before we get to what ought be.
01:55:41.440 I think generally speaking, that is correct. 1.00
01:55:43.460 However, I think that women do hold some leverage.
01:55:46.060 So, for example, in the 1920s, women were the main people who lobbied for—
01:55:51.060 I don't disagree that there's not leverage. I don't disagree about the leverage argument.
01:55:52.960 I'll give you a whole bunch of leverage that women have. 1.00
01:55:56.660 They're really hot, men want to fuck them. 1.00
01:55:58.560 No, it was not that at all. 1.00
01:55:59.400 Hang on, but that's an easy example. 1.00
01:56:02.000 They're really hot, and men want to fuck them. 1.00
01:56:03.660 That's a leverage arm for women. Yeah, you agree? 1.00
01:56:05.940 Yeah, but I was going into a totally different direction.
01:56:07.700 But do you agree that that's the case?
01:56:08.800 I said they have a political leverage, too.
01:56:10.380 Yeah, but isn't sensuality part of political leverage?
01:56:13.680 Perhaps, but that's not the point that I was making. 0.91
01:56:16.060 Hold on. Before you say your thing, you wanted to come in on something?
01:56:21.060 I'm trying to remember it right now.
01:56:22.400 Okay, back to you. Go ahead.
01:56:23.300 So in the 1920s, women were at the front and center of lobbying for alcohol consumption to be banned. 0.99
01:56:30.160 Correct.
01:56:31.000 Yeah, and so the churches, the groups that wanted those things to happen,
01:56:34.080 oftentimes the most zealous, the most patriarchal men needed women to vote for those things.
01:56:38.480 And I would like to connect this to now also because I think this is relevant.
01:56:41.740 I think if we ever were to have any sort of porn legislation in this country, 0.94
01:56:45.780 you would probably need women to be on board and potentially you could only pass it with women on 0.99
01:56:49.960 board. Agreed. That's the benefit or the downside of universal suffrage. So that means that it's not 1.00
01:56:55.180 like women are like begging men necessarily to give them that right, but they're also needed
01:56:59.760 and they're being brought into the fold because they're bringing something of benefit for specific 0.76
01:57:03.240 types of men. There's a massive hole in your argument, which is if men collectively tomorrow
01:57:07.800 say women have no rights, they don't. Yeah, I do disagree with that. And that's that. But it's not
01:57:12.920 as black and white as that it is that black and white so wouldn't because and i'll get and i'll
01:57:16.820 explain to you how by just asking a simple question i think you'll you'll answer it for 1.00
01:57:20.620 me can you name a single time in history where women have collectivized and taken rights away
01:57:24.720 from men uh no but in most times in history ever ever well wait can you name a single we've had
01:57:31.720 guns for 600 years some random tribes where women were on top so if you're saying ever in the
01:57:37.880 ones no no they weren't okay no that's incorrect okay incorrect so the thing is is like again even
01:57:46.720 with amazonian tribes they had to defer to men for enforcement so the thing is it only when you had
01:57:52.160 like x amount of men die from warfare that went did women even become a militant arm so i think
01:57:58.420 it's interesting is like there's actually no example i can find historically like even with 0.97
01:58:03.780 vikings you know the shield maidens and shit even that was bullshit the shield maidens actually 0.72
01:58:07.940 really just combed through battlefields and kind of like nursed men and shit like they they weren't 0.96
01:58:12.900 actually really frontline soldiers it's all hollywood mythology i would just like one example
01:58:18.280 ever ever in all of human history which has been recorded over the last 7 000 years where women
01:58:24.740 have collectivized and by force made men second class citizens well you know there's gradations
01:58:30.580 to, like, how patriarchal societies were.
01:58:32.720 I'm just asking, can you just answer the question I asked first
01:58:35.480 and then go on your diatribe?
01:58:36.620 In the absence, I need to preface it.
01:58:38.120 You don't.
01:58:38.680 You can just say yes or no, and then you can give me the argument.
01:58:42.340 No, but.
01:58:43.400 No, thank you.
01:58:44.320 But that was because they couldn't because they're physically weaker,
01:58:47.180 and I don't think anyone disagrees.
01:58:48.660 That's correct.
01:58:49.040 But right now we have the great equalizer, firearms, 1.00
01:58:51.680 and I think right now women are increasingly being hired at higher rates 1.00
01:58:55.580 for, like, powerful jobs. 1.00
01:58:56.900 They have a lot of capital. 1.00
01:58:57.820 and if hypothetically there was a split between the genders women probably could hold their own
01:59:02.940 better than at any other time in human history not even going to disagree with any of that just 0.87
01:59:06.880 all irrelevant for one thing i agree with you that guns you said if you just if you just chill
01:59:12.860 for a second i'll give you the counter arguments okay i understand your idea for guns being a great
01:59:18.340 equalizer but they actually do not equalize force between men and women because men with guns still
01:59:23.280 way more dangerous than women with guns and that's the case so if you have a glock and i have a glock
01:59:29.060 probably i'm going to be more dangerous with the glock than you're going to be now that's not always 1.00
01:59:33.960 going to be the case there's tons of women i'm sure who could out shoot me and handle a glock
01:59:38.340 better than me but not on average on average more men are going to be able to they have a better 1.00
01:59:43.220 they have better physical strength to carry ammunition carry equipment they're you're just
01:59:47.900 Still, even with firearms, at a disadvantage with men who have firearms.
01:59:52.620 And by the way, who's more likely to make all the firearms?
01:59:56.340 Who?
01:59:56.780 And who already owns most of the firearms?
02:00:00.820 Who's going to make them?
02:00:02.600 I don't think that's really the question. 1.00
02:00:04.520 The question is if women could acquire the firearms necessary to equalize their force to men. 1.00
02:00:09.120 They can right now. 1.00
02:00:10.180 Yeah, exactly.
02:00:11.020 They can right now.
02:00:12.000 They can.
02:00:12.640 And so, no, no, can I, I want to finish, please.
02:00:15.600 And they could in Iraq. 0.99
02:00:16.480 Oh, I don't know if they could in Iraq 1.00
02:00:18.560 Because they don't have the First Amendment 1.00
02:00:19.740 They had a constitutional right to own an AK-47 0.63
02:00:21.980 Under Saddam Hussein 0.99
02:00:22.960 Okay, well then, sucks for them 0.98
02:00:24.840 But they didn't really have feminism 1.00
02:00:26.360 In the same way that you have it in the West 1.00
02:00:27.520 They didn't have a reason to 0.98
02:00:28.780 They didn't have a reason 1.00
02:00:30.560 Yeah, most women were against feminism when it began 1.00
02:00:34.040 Wait, really quick question for you 1.00
02:00:35.320 Assume 100,000 men versus 100,000 women 0.78
02:00:39.700 So you have equal
02:00:40.520 Is it hand-to-hand?
02:00:41.920 No, with firearms
02:00:43.280 With firearms, but you have to assume in any sort of conflict, if it's urban warfare or whatever, there's the possibility of close quarters combat where firearms maybe you could be disarmed in some sort of way.
02:00:55.960 You know what?
02:00:56.380 I'll just go further.
02:00:57.900 There's not going to in any way, shape, or form in this conflict ever be a single hand-to-hand confrontation.
02:01:03.880 It's just going to be firearms and weapons only.
02:01:05.540 Just firearms then.
02:01:06.680 Who wins in that hypothetical conflict? 1.00
02:01:09.720 It could be women. 1.00
02:01:10.480 if they're not, can I explain please? For example, for example, it's like a all women fortress and 1.00
02:01:17.560 they're not interacting with men at all. And you pick all you need is like, all you need is, so 1.00
02:01:22.740 you said a hundred thousand, correct? So if you find one percentage of these women, they probably 0.99
02:01:27.060 would be as capable as men. One percentage of women could probably be just put on the like 1.00
02:01:32.220 surrounding, like the fortress or whatever. You pick the strongest soldiers and they could, I'm 1.00
02:01:37.240 not saying every woman but you could find enough women who can handle an assault rifle well enough
02:01:41.480 to you know ward off any men okay now let me just ask you this i'll i'll just grant it to you 0.95
02:01:48.020 you are in a position where you can pick to be the leader of the male forces or the female forces
02:01:57.740 which one would you pick would i pick a man or a woman i i no collectively you can pick between
02:02:04.520 10,000 men
02:02:06.020 to be your army 1.00
02:02:07.420 or 10,000 women. 1.00
02:02:09.820 Which ones 1.00
02:02:10.560 would you pick?
02:02:11.960 Now, that's all you know about them.
02:02:13.400 You don't know anything else.
02:02:14.640 You just know that
02:02:15.200 both sides have guns.
02:02:17.180 That's all you know.
02:02:18.180 Who are you picking? 0.65
02:02:19.280 I will probably pick the men. 1.00
02:02:21.140 No shit. 0.99
02:02:21.700 Because I have 1.00
02:02:22.100 deeply internalized misogyny. 0.99
02:02:23.700 I am fucking just 1.00
02:02:25.100 stunlocked 0.97
02:02:25.980 by this revelation
02:02:27.700 that you would pick the men.
02:02:29.940 That's crazy to me.
02:02:30.960 Would you like to know why?
02:02:31.140 Why? 0.87
02:02:31.540 But they have guns.
02:02:33.100 They both have guns.
02:02:33.700 Would you like to know why?
02:02:34.760 I would love to know. 0.98
02:02:36.080 Okay, because women have historically been, you know, kind of brainwashed into thinking that they're not as strong as men. 1.00
02:02:41.840 They have equal training. 0.52
02:02:43.960 Oh, okay.
02:02:44.500 If they're perfectly equal.
02:02:45.820 I didn't say they're perfectly equal.
02:02:48.060 I said they go through the same infantry training, same exact infantry training.
02:02:53.840 They got the same firearms.
02:02:55.820 They have the same body armor.
02:02:57.860 They have all the same equipment.
02:02:59.260 They have all of it.
02:03:00.940 Exactly the same amount of equipment. 1.00
02:03:02.360 These bitches feel super empowered 1.00
02:03:04.680 And so do these men 1.00
02:03:05.680 These dudes, these fucking assholes 1.00
02:03:08.180 And these bitches, they feel awesome 1.00
02:03:10.220 Both sides feel the most empowered 1.00
02:03:12.620 Their side could possibly ever feel
02:03:15.500 Who are you picking?
02:03:17.080 So they are equal in all ways 0.92
02:03:19.340 Except gender 1.00
02:03:20.000 I just want to clarify 1.00
02:03:21.440 No
02:03:22.120 They have equal weapons 0.80
02:03:25.780 Equal training
02:03:27.120 And both sides, they have 100% morale
02:03:30.520 But like in terms of how well
02:03:32.840 That's it, that's all the information you got
02:03:34.540 That's all the information
02:03:35.380 Hang on, hang on, not only is that all the information you get
02:03:38.040 But that's ten times more information than any other
02:03:40.260 Okay, well I'm clarifying the premise
02:03:42.580 Wait, wait, how about we add this
02:03:44.200 Tell me Andrew if you'd like this
02:03:46.260 Okay, the
02:03:47.400 What was the number? Ten thousand
02:03:49.260 Okay, of
02:03:51.620 Existing soldiers in the entire world
02:03:54.200 We'll give you the ten thousand 1.00
02:03:55.900 Most badass female soldiers 1.00
02:03:57.620 And the ten thousand most badass male soldiers 1.00
02:04:00.400 Would that work? 0.64
02:04:01.720 Yeah, sure.
02:04:02.960 But they're still just badass ones who've ever existed.
02:04:06.800 And so for this scenario, are they engaging in close contact fighting or no?
02:04:10.540 They're weapons.
02:04:11.560 Honestly, in this very, very specific scenario, I don't think it would matter.
02:04:15.760 In this very specific scenario.
02:04:17.300 Wouldn't it just be preference space?
02:04:18.320 But that's not realistic.
02:04:19.420 I just want to know the reasons, though.
02:04:22.860 Hang on, hang on.
02:04:23.780 Just one at a time.
02:04:25.580 One reason at a time. 1.00
02:04:26.860 Because when you're looking at the top 10,000 women soldiers, 1.00
02:04:31.640 there are probably going to be women who are already extremely capable, 0.50
02:04:36.460 more so than the average woman, 0.96
02:04:38.060 who go into these fields because they care very deeply about what they're fighting for.
02:04:40.940 I agree with this.
02:04:42.040 And so I think that you would also probably agree with the idea that at least...
02:04:47.200 So what percentage are they of all female soldiers?
02:04:49.340 Like a very, very tiny percentage.
02:04:51.000 She just told you.
02:04:51.780 They're the top 1%.
02:04:53.020 Oh, top 1%.
02:04:54.020 Okay, I'm sorry.
02:04:54.620 And it's the top 10,000 best.
02:04:56.960 Yeah, top 10,000 best versus top 10,000 best.
02:04:59.760 So that's why I said we don't know the percentage.
02:05:01.460 So what's the first reason that you would select women?
02:05:06.580 My scenario is a bit unfair, though, come to think of it. 1.00
02:05:08.800 Well, I don't think it would matter.
02:05:10.540 Okay, right.
02:05:11.560 Give me the first reason why it doesn't matter. 1.00
02:05:14.980 Because the types of women who are in these positions and who are the top 10,000 badass are probably as good as men. 1.00
02:05:21.000 They're probably the anomalies. 1.00
02:05:22.080 You know, like that girl who ran in the Olympics?
02:05:24.020 Hang on, that's just restating the claim.
02:05:25.940 I want the reason for the claim.
02:05:27.900 I already know you think that it's equal, that it wouldn't matter what you pick. 0.93
02:05:31.380 So a lot of women have certain anomalies that allow them to equalize their sort of, you know, the unfair advantage that men have, whether it's biology or whatever, you know, mental development. 0.57
02:05:42.240 So some girls are raised in households where they're raised in a really masculine environment, so they don't have these, you know, they're not very emotional.
02:05:49.540 They've sort of suppressed that part of themselves. 0.79
02:05:51.000 Maybe they could be like...
02:05:53.000 How is this relevant?
02:05:54.020 I'm saying why it's equal.
02:05:56.080 So I'm saying that...
02:05:56.800 How is this run? 1.00
02:05:58.040 You're saying why 10,000 women... 0.99
02:05:59.880 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.01.
02:06:03.760 Thank you, Grid One.
02:06:04.300 Gun or no gun, men are more violent and more effectively use violence. 0.91
02:06:09.320 Despite the myth of Wonder Woman, women are simply not made to be warriors.
02:06:14.860 Men are hunters.
02:06:16.000 Don't we always say that?
02:06:17.960 I just...
02:06:18.760 You can't actually give me the reason, though. 0.74
02:06:21.920 I'd say that for the vast majority of women, I agree going with men would be correct, but 0.81
02:06:27.040 for a very small minority of women, they lack the sort of the issues that other women ran
02:06:33.820 into, whether it's because of their upbringing or because of their biology.
02:06:36.900 There's some women who have like really high testosterone, for example. 0.99
02:06:41.120 And so these are the kinds of women who are in the top 10,000 badass female soldiers are 1.00
02:06:44.720 probably capable of- 1.00
02:06:45.640 And you're comparing them to the top 10,000 badass soldiers who are men.
02:06:48.020 massive diminishing returns at the point where you're just saying like oh can you handle a 0.94
02:06:52.260 firearm i'm pretty sure these women can handle it really really well i don't see why it matters 1.00
02:06:56.520 if they're even more badass but like it doesn't materialize in any sort of way so why do you 1.00
02:07:00.460 think it matters you just don't well i'll explain why i think it matters how many female navy seals 1.00
02:07:05.440 have there been probably a tiny percentage zero right two i don't know i don't know anything 1.00
02:07:11.560 about the u.s navy i'm not from here is that one bro just take the l by the law i'm not i'm not
02:07:17.380 losing it's fine stop gaslighting by the laws by the laws of diminishing returns i just want to
02:07:22.980 know don't you think special forces right are going to be the top tier of male soldiers probably
02:07:30.040 but like it's hang on hang on okay who else would it be it depends on the task that we're doing
02:07:36.240 you're killing each other yeah so if i am not in the most efficient way possible
02:07:40.820 No, because the special forces also counter in things like, you know, being really good at problem solving or something like that.
02:07:49.000 It doesn't matter if you're just shooting people.
02:07:51.060 May I say something else?
02:07:51.620 Yes, it does.
02:07:51.980 You have a general who tells you where to shoot.
02:07:53.540 You're not each deciding on your own.
02:07:55.040 That would be chaotic.
02:07:55.840 Wait, wait, there's...
02:07:56.780 Hang on, hang on.
02:07:57.680 Problem solving?
02:07:58.780 You need to be clear about the scenario.
02:08:00.100 Actually, I'm very clear about the scenario.
02:08:01.800 No, I think you guys are both presenting different ideas.
02:08:04.240 I'm diving into your logic because I want to know.
02:08:06.200 Okay.
02:08:06.700 So, yes, I agree.
02:08:08.080 Problem solving on the battlefield as a regular soldier would not in any way be advantageous.
02:08:12.820 Okay, we can go with that.
02:08:14.380 That's your first claim.
02:08:15.700 Problem solving for the individual soldier on a battlefield shooting at other soldiers, not advantageous.
02:08:21.160 That's claim one.
02:08:22.040 What's next?
02:08:23.340 Well, maybe a little bit.
02:08:24.540 Wait, wait, no, no, come on.
02:08:27.580 Go ahead.
02:08:28.240 I think he's been more than clear with all the points made.
02:08:30.760 What I've noticed is just like it's deflecting or it's bringing up irrelevant points when it's just a yes or no.
02:08:36.700 Yeah, he's asking logical questions.
02:08:38.560 Just say yes or no. 1.00
02:08:39.320 You guys are gender traitors. 1.00
02:08:40.980 What the fuck? 1.00
02:08:41.760 How was that? 1.00
02:08:42.420 The sisterhood.
02:08:44.060 The sisterhood.
02:08:45.440 I never said I was a feminist.
02:08:47.040 He's asking logical questions and he won't say yes or no answer.
02:08:50.080 You're beating around a bush. 0.85
02:08:51.780 But what he's saying, like during war, he's saying you need to kill each other, like men 0.98
02:08:56.480 and women, in the most efficient way possible.
02:09:00.440 I'm a criminology major, so I study human behavior. 0.82
02:09:02.660 We've learned that men are more
02:09:05.240 Like they could do the thing
02:09:06.840 The unspeakable
02:09:07.680 They will do it
02:09:08.460 They have the power 1.00
02:09:09.160 Women whenever they go kill 1.00
02:09:10.380 And they don't give a fuck 1.00
02:09:11.240 They don't do 1.00
02:09:11.820 Yeah and they don't give a fuck 1.00
02:09:12.720 But women who go kill 1.00
02:09:14.180 They do the 1.00
02:09:14.760 They poison someone
02:09:16.140 They do the most delicate
02:09:17.480 Look
02:09:17.940 Here
02:09:18.420 Maybe this will be
02:09:19.820 Maybe this will be 1.00
02:09:21.020 Shut the fuck up 0.99
02:09:22.380 Thank you 1.00
02:09:23.000 If you hear me fucking talking 0.99
02:09:24.160 If you hear me start fucking talking 1.00
02:09:26.040 You shut your fucking mouth 1.00
02:09:27.420 You fucking over talk me 1.00
02:09:29.340 And talk while I'm talking 1.00
02:09:30.480 Way too fucking much 0.96
02:09:31.940 Okay 1.00
02:09:32.900 Holy fuck. 1.00
02:09:34.780 I'm sorry. 1.00
02:09:35.060 They've done studies.
02:09:36.220 Well, it's a spirit.
02:09:36.860 Huge, huge studies related to the military.
02:09:40.040 The rate of women in the field who get, like, catastrophic knee injuries, so this is like
02:09:44.520 ACL tears, for example, is way higher than men.
02:09:48.080 And so this is when they're carrying weight and they're doing quick maneuvering. 0.99
02:09:51.500 Women are more susceptible to certain injuries. 0.99
02:09:54.020 Men are sturdier than women are. 1.00
02:09:56.440 So in a combat scenario where you're fucking sprinting and moving quick and you're carrying 0.99
02:10:00.080 60 80 pounds whatever and you're holding a firearm uh there's massive difference between men and 0.98
02:10:05.280 women like firearms are heavy also problem solving for the average battlefield soldier
02:10:10.360 biologically we're different well yeah it's going to immensely matter for problem solving for a 0.82
02:10:17.100 normal battlefield soldier because you have to use unit cohesion so can i respond yeah um so first i
02:10:23.220 will i don't know what i should start with first because there was like so much stuff but yeah i'll
02:10:27.640 start with what you're saying like yeah on average women like underperform compared to men
02:10:31.960 you're missing the point of the premise which is that it's the top 10 000 women and so there's some
02:10:38.300 women who have higher testosterone than men it happens wait wait hold on hold on i'm sorry i'm
02:10:44.460 gonna every i'm gonna just cut you off at this point where you're going where i know exactly 0.88
02:10:49.640 where you're going it's going to be you prattling for a minute saying some like pseudo intellectual 0.99
02:10:55.000 fucking retarded nonsense you're 10 but the top 10 000 women well compared to the top 10 000 men 0.99
02:11:02.300 okay stop stop stop the top 10 000 men are superior to all top 10 000 women so regardless 1.00
02:11:10.780 of how fucking badass krav maga fucking retarded you know tai chi shit these fucking top female 1.00
02:11:19.540 soldiers can do, it doesn't 1.00
02:11:21.620 fucking matter, because it's compared to the 0.97
02:11:23.520 top 10,000 men, and all 0.99
02:11:25.380 10,000 of those men are better
02:11:27.560 than the top 10
02:11:29.640 of those women. So, say I need to
02:11:31.600 reach something from the top shelf,
02:11:33.520 does it really matter if a person is
02:11:35.320 6 feet tall or 6 feet 5 if they can both
02:11:37.600 reach the top shelf? I agree. Thank you.
02:11:39.620 I have a question. That doesn't make your point, though.
02:11:41.700 It does, because women, the top 1.00
02:11:43.700 10,000 women... Yeah, that doesn't matter. 1.00
02:11:45.440 My turn. Go ahead. Let me at least 1.00
02:11:47.660 make the point. My bad. Go ahead.
02:11:49.040 So in that situation, it doesn't matter.
02:11:52.320 But what if the shelf is six foot two?
02:11:56.820 In that case, it does matter.
02:11:58.020 Okay, so in that case, it does matter.
02:12:00.220 So hang on, hang on, hang on.
02:12:01.700 So if we just simply adjust the scenario, now suddenly it matters, it doesn't matter.
02:12:07.420 Fine.
02:12:08.040 I'm willing to grant, and your scenario doesn't matter, and in mine it does.
02:12:12.400 Grid One Motorsports donated $200.10. 1.00
02:12:16.240 sense please remind this stupid beach that the world's best female soccer team got beat by a 0.97
02:12:22.620 high school team and serena williams got laid out by a male tennis player who was not even top 100 0.99
02:12:28.780 one quick thing one quick thing on that grid one thank you for thank you for a message here
02:12:32.580 yeah grid one so the uh boys high school boys outperform the top tier olympic female athletes
02:12:41.840 yeah so high school boys high school boys outperform top tier olympic female athletes
02:12:50.500 yeah so that did happen okay so for what you're saying this is why um for the trans community
02:12:58.320 they don't allow trans men like men who are transitioning to women to not participate in
02:13:03.040 women's sports because biologically they're a man so they're more they're going to be better
02:13:07.980 They're going to be better. 1.00
02:13:08.620 That's the whole argument they had.
02:13:09.980 Correct.
02:13:10.520 But she agrees with that.
02:13:12.500 So you're contradicting yourself.
02:13:14.440 Let me be super charitable to your argument because I think I understand it.
02:13:17.340 Just make sure I got it.
02:13:19.720 You're saying there's a lot of diminishing returns when it comes to physicality and when it comes to battlefield effectiveness.
02:13:26.400 And simply a biological offset to being much stronger comparatively when we're talking about weapons and we're talking about the very top of both fields.
02:13:35.920 it's not enough of an offset to make enough of a difference between the two groups that you would
02:13:39.720 select right correct especially in the premise so hang on so i have it so i have it correct right
02:13:45.660 yes so if i ask you because i'm being charitable and i steel manned your position can you please
02:13:51.980 steel man mine um no because you didn't have a chance to talk too much great so then so then
02:13:58.300 now that we've established you don't even know my position do you mind if i give it to you yes
02:14:02.640 Okay, so then I'll do that.
02:14:04.460 So then I'll do that.
02:14:06.060 So when you're talking about battlefield efficiency,
02:14:09.720 when you're talking about the law of diminishing returns,
02:14:11.360 that's possible if you got to a certain level.
02:14:14.800 But the law of diminishing returns, I think, 0.98
02:14:16.720 would only be achievable by the male level. 0.92
02:14:19.200 Why? 0.94
02:14:20.080 Because all we have to do is look at military special forces 1.00
02:14:22.940 and how few women are able to actually get into them. 1.00
02:14:26.640 And the thing is, is that if you were going to select
02:14:28.960 between the top 10,000 soldiers who are male,
02:14:33.240 they're all going to be special forces. 1.00
02:14:35.660 And the top women are actually very few 1.00
02:14:38.420 or none will be special forces. 1.00
02:14:40.700 And so their combat training will be infantry level only
02:14:43.460 or as high as infantry as they can possibly get,
02:14:46.060 maybe some snipers.
02:14:47.760 Whereas the training,
02:14:48.980 just this training that the men are able to go through
02:14:51.600 for advanced weaponry, explosives, demolition,
02:14:54.600 counter or team tactics,
02:14:57.260 and the investment that the U.S. military makes in them or other militaries is astronomical. 0.92
02:15:03.500 So even though they have equal weapons, there's no, like, the chances that women would win that engagement would be so abysmal.
02:15:12.580 I can't believe you would say that it just wouldn't matter.
02:15:16.420 So can you please, like, be extremely clear about what special forces do as opposed to any other soldier?
02:15:22.120 Yeah, so, like, let's take, for instance, Navy SEALs, basic underwater demolition.
02:15:27.260 So Navy SEALs are trained in aquatic warfare and ground warfare.
02:15:32.900 So Navy SEALs can fight in the water.
02:15:35.020 They can fight on land.
02:15:36.240 They're trained in advanced small unit tactics.
02:15:39.120 They have far more advanced weapons training.
02:15:41.780 They have far more advanced sniper training.
02:15:43.980 They have far more advanced training across the board. 0.98
02:15:46.180 And most importantly, they can carry far more equipment than women can. 0.97
02:15:52.960 So just remember this. 1.00
02:15:53.940 Just payload.
02:15:55.160 You have to carry ammunition to the battlefield.
02:15:56.840 You're 10,000 soldiers, right?
02:15:58.860 You have to carry ammunition.
02:16:02.020 There's no way around that.
02:16:03.320 The premise was kind of different
02:16:05.740 because how we initially got to this, 1.00
02:16:07.700 as I said, if women kind of 1.00
02:16:09.740 for themselves into this bunker 1.00
02:16:12.020 and from there shoot at people... 0.97
02:16:13.680 Oh, my God. Stop it. Stop it. 1.00
02:16:14.760 You're the one that introduced... 1.00
02:16:18.340 You gave women the handicap there. 1.00
02:16:20.840 Andrew's original... 1.00
02:16:22.240 Oh, my God. Andrew's original point was
02:16:25.540 If you had 100,000 men and 100,000 women.
02:16:28.560 10,000?
02:16:29.500 10,000.
02:16:30.020 No, I think it was 100,000.
02:16:30.980 I said 10.
02:16:32.260 No, I switched it to 10.
02:16:33.160 I switched it to 10.
02:16:34.280 Okay.
02:16:34.600 But before I switched it to 10, you said, well, what about in the specific instance where, okay, they're in a defensive position.
02:16:42.500 So it is true.
02:16:44.160 It is true that when you're, I mean, it depends, like, maybe, like, it is true if you're in a defensive position, that gives you an advantage.
02:16:52.320 I'll actually give it to them.
02:16:53.440 I'll actually give it to you 1.00
02:16:55.660 But that's you handicapping women 1.00
02:16:57.120 I'm going to actually give you the handicap 1.00
02:16:58.920 I'm going to even say in the scenario
02:17:01.460 That you get to choose from 0.99
02:17:02.620 The women have a castle 0.99
02:17:04.900 And it's surrounded on three sides by water 1.00
02:17:08.020 And it's a big castle
02:17:10.300 It's a star fort 1.00
02:17:12.100 Yeah, it's a fucking star fort 1.00
02:17:13.840 Like it's a very 1.00
02:17:14.800 Hang on, hang on, hang on
02:17:16.640 It's a very, very defensive
02:17:19.040 Stop, stop, stop
02:17:21.420 Can I at least give you the scenario?
02:17:22.880 Bro, you've been speaking the whole time.
02:17:24.180 Yeah, so I just want to make sure that you got the scenario. 0.99
02:17:26.600 I'm giving women the handicap. 1.00
02:17:27.740 They're in the defensive position. 1.00
02:17:29.100 They got a great defensive position, right?
02:17:32.060 So they don't even have to haul their ammunition all that far.
02:17:35.420 They're in such a good defensive position.
02:17:37.260 And they're up against 10,000 Special Forces soldiers, these infantry-trained women. 0.66
02:17:41.840 Go ahead. 1.00
02:17:42.440 Which one are you going to pick?
02:17:43.820 I genuinely don't think it matters.
02:17:45.680 In this very specific instance.
02:17:46.980 I mean, this is just a complete lack of reason.
02:17:49.720 Well, no, because Andrew was talking about things.
02:17:51.600 I'm responding now.
02:17:52.340 Now, Andrew was talking about things like explosives, like underwater tactics, whatever.
02:17:56.220 You're not using it in this case.
02:17:57.480 You are using it. 0.99
02:17:57.780 You would use it if it has a fucking moat. 1.00
02:17:59.980 Yes, you would. 1.00
02:18:00.580 There's a fucking moat. 0.99
02:18:01.980 They surround it on three sides by water and underwater tactics. 1.00
02:18:04.120 And there's a fucking droplet. 0.99
02:18:06.120 Wait, wait. 1.00
02:18:06.980 There's a trebuchet and there's a fucking catapult and shit. 1.00
02:18:10.380 The women have fucking trebuchets. 1.00
02:18:12.300 Let's bring it back, bro. 1.00
02:18:13.580 What's a trebuchet? 1.00
02:18:15.040 Man, shit. 1.00
02:18:15.580 If you don't know what a fucking trebuchet is, you're not prepared to have this conversation. 1.00
02:18:21.820 I've literally never heard it in my life. 0.99
02:18:23.520 I'm actually even going to...
02:18:24.600 Hold on.
02:18:25.120 Wait, wait.
02:18:25.400 Let me read this.
02:18:25.920 I just want to take it one step further.
02:18:27.120 Okay.
02:18:27.520 Okay? 1.00
02:18:28.880 All the women inside the fort have modern machine guns, and all the Special Forces men
02:18:33.840 have a Beretta 9mm handgun, and that's all they get.
02:18:37.720 Come on.
02:18:38.160 That's all they get.
02:18:39.340 Do you remember what they were using in that case? 0.99
02:18:40.240 No, I'm taking the fucking Special Forces men. 0.99
02:18:42.780 All they get is 9mm handguns. 1.00
02:18:45.700 What are they going to do?
02:18:46.340 I don't understand.
02:18:46.960 Okay, hold on.
02:18:47.800 I'm going to tell you.
02:18:48.540 I'm going to explain something to you about the ingenuity of men.
02:18:52.200 Okay.
02:18:52.700 Okay. 1.00
02:18:53.080 And distinction that I've seen in the ingenuity of women, 0.94
02:18:56.660 especially when it comes to soldiers that I know, 0.98
02:19:00.660 uh, 1.00
02:19:01.580 what those motherfuckers will sit there and do is they'll sit down with 1.00
02:19:05.160 their nine millimeter pistols and they will figure out the most effective 1.00
02:19:08.380 way to infiltrate that fort and kill every fucking woman in it before 1.00
02:19:12.860 they're even awake. 1.00
02:19:13.940 They will figure out how to slaughter you with poison. 1.00
02:19:17.500 They'll figure out how to cut your fucking head off with a chain. 1.00
02:19:20.540 They will figure out how to beat you to death with a rock. 1.00
02:19:23.340 And they will love doing it.
02:19:25.220 They'll literally sit there and challenge each other on it. 1.00
02:19:27.600 I don't think we would kill enough women if we did it your way. 1.00
02:19:32.660 We need to do it. 0.97
02:19:34.300 But that is indeed how those men are trained to think.
02:19:39.160 Okay.
02:19:39.620 And that's why I would select them.
02:19:41.200 All right. 0.74
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02:19:55.340 W's in the chat from Jungle Lab. Fucking legend. 1.00
02:19:57.780 We have a super chat here from 1.00
02:19:59.780 Arctic Airborne Recon. It's not only physical
02:20:01.840 differences. There's also separate
02:20:03.780 men's and women's chess competition. 0.99
02:20:06.420 Please don't be stupid on purpose. 0.98
02:20:08.360 Why? 0.99
02:20:09.440 And Arctic, thank you guys. Just a reminder, $200
02:20:11.860 TTS, $100 batch 1.00
02:20:13.880 to read how come the women can't beat minute chess what the fuck i would like to can i actually 0.96
02:20:18.260 respond to this because like i haven't i've played chess for many many years and i definitely what's 0.94
02:20:22.420 your elo like 1400 it's not very good that's what's your elo i don't even play it but i know
02:20:27.340 that okay yeah i'm sure you'll be a grandmaster i'm no probably not probably not you'd smoke me 0.99
02:20:32.340 but well yeah so why are you saying it's shit then it is shit okay well i i don't understand 0.99
02:20:37.640 how's that it's better than average so i don't know like what your point is anyway go some women 0.99
02:20:43.100 can beat some men of course um yes like for example susan polger um can like was like a
02:20:50.140 grandmaster and she could definitely beat you she could definitely beat andrew tate so of course
02:20:54.740 we're going back to the question of diminishing returns i'm fine if i only need if i only need
02:20:59.360 someone if i only need someone if i only need someone who can beat 2000 elo then i will be 0.99
02:21:05.100 fine taking like certain women because certain women can do that if i need someone to beat the 1.00
02:21:10.100 best chess player in the world then obviously i'm not going to pick a woman why why not though 1.00
02:21:13.600 because they're like the top 10 spots wait hold on explain but why wait explain your objection 0.99
02:21:18.780 because women stop explain your objection i did okay i'm the fucking host i don't i don't fucking 0.98
02:21:24.800 care go ahead i why why do we need like why do like sports that don't involve like physicality 0.98
02:21:34.060 need to be separated are you familiar with chess yeah okay this is a great question why is that
02:21:39.600 Yeah, why?
02:21:40.660 So you think it's like somehow sexist that we wouldn't try to set up a woman to be the best male chess player? 1.00
02:21:45.060 Because they fucking lose. 1.00
02:21:46.260 They can't compete with them. 1.00
02:21:47.240 Why can't a woman, like, what gives women the disadvantage in chess? 1.00
02:21:51.240 Well, okay, so it's logically possible that a woman could one day be the best chess player ever. 0.93
02:21:56.260 However, currently the best chess players that exist are all men. 0.98
02:22:01.000 Like the whole top ten?
02:22:02.220 Yes.
02:22:02.760 Oh, wow.
02:22:03.500 I wonder why. 0.76
02:22:04.340 So, yeah, if you did try to match up a woman with like Magnus Carlsen or whatever.
02:22:07.460 And you know what's really funny? 0.96
02:22:08.520 Get smoked. 0.93
02:22:08.900 I was reading, interestingly enough, about female chess players talking about this 1.00
02:22:14.560 and literally saying they themselves don't understand why it is that men just kick the holy shit out of them. 1.00
02:22:21.180 There's no disadvantage. 0.99
02:22:22.640 They're able to train as much as they want.
02:22:24.300 They're able to play as much as they want.
02:22:26.100 But men are just way better at it.
02:22:28.320 So weird. 0.98
02:22:29.080 It's not weird.
02:22:30.060 I mean, it's like interesting.
02:22:31.000 There's literal differences between men and women.
02:22:32.660 And when you get past the curve, what you find out is men are way more logical.
02:22:37.480 and the ones who are in the top and the ones who are in the top of that.
02:22:41.400 Men are logical thinkers and women are emotional thinkers, I would say. 1.00
02:22:45.820 So I think that vibes-wise, I agree with the idea that women have something lacking 1.00
02:22:50.480 in their ability to be super, super, super good at chess. 1.00
02:22:54.240 However, I think that there's a caveat that must be made.
02:22:56.780 For example, with women's figure skating, for a really long time,
02:22:59.580 it was considered physically impossible for women to do a quad,
02:23:02.740 which is the most difficult jump.
02:23:05.120 Right now, you have women who are outperforming men who are tiny, who are never thought to be physically able to do this.
02:23:10.900 So, Alexandra Trousseau is a famous one.
02:23:12.780 I think she's better than most, if not even maybe all male jumpers.
02:23:17.440 It was not thought to be impossible.
02:23:19.360 It was thought to be impossible.
02:23:20.380 I grew up hearing it's impossible.
02:23:22.240 It was not thought to be impossible. 0.99
02:23:23.680 That was nomenclature that a bunch of dumb broads came up with. 0.99
02:23:28.260 Everyone said it was impossible. 0.99
02:23:29.860 Actually, nobody said it was impossible.
02:23:31.600 they just said it was very unlikely that you're going to see a lot of it and by the way they were
02:23:36.380 right well no you did hear that it was impossible for a really long time the name one name from
02:23:41.680 coaches from like commentators and stuff like that i don't have any names of course not but
02:23:45.780 in the same way that we're now saying it's impossible for a woman to beat magnus carlson
02:23:49.860 we're not really saying it's like totally impossible but like it's basically impossible
02:23:53.600 that was the attitude towards women doing quad jumps and figure skating right and right now it's
02:23:57.340 not a that's different claim raising my voice but right now it's not just a minority it's a it's a
02:24:02.320 subset of women who are training under the same coach who's using a certain technique that's
02:24:06.180 making all of her students do quad jumps and so i think something like this with chess is also 0.97
02:24:09.960 possible because women have certain barriers or glass ceilings where they think that they 1.00
02:24:13.640 will not be a good chess player and so they go into it less they get less encouragement stuff
02:24:16.880 like that but intuitively speaking i agree that there's probably something missing there are many 0.51
02:24:20.780 women who have tried to break that glass ceiling who didn't think that there were any inhibitions
02:24:24.900 with many men behind them saying there should not actually there's no scientific reason for this
02:24:30.700 there is no inhibition there is nothing they can't break it does anyone here know what that
02:24:35.340 reason is i'm just curious well interestingly enough it has to do with this is the the prevalent
02:24:42.360 theory has a lot to do with iq so iq within our average is very similar they really are they're
02:24:49.740 very similar men a little bit less on one side and then women a little bit more on another side
02:24:54.320 until we get to the edges.
02:24:56.760 Then you start to see that men's IQ is much higher.
02:24:59.640 When you get to the top, women's IQ and men's IQ,
02:25:03.560 men's is higher when you get to that elite level.
02:25:06.260 And when you're talking about chess, it's a high IQ sport.
02:25:09.700 It's not even a sport, right?
02:25:10.960 I don't know if you classify it as that.
02:25:12.740 Game.
02:25:13.360 High IQ game.
02:25:14.820 High IQ people who are involved in it.
02:25:17.580 And so that's likely the reason why.
02:25:19.760 Now, I'm not saying that that's a sure thing.
02:25:21.660 just saying that that's postulated and makes sense to me okay you have something go ahead yeah may
02:25:26.680 add something so her figure skating thing so i do cheer and whenever we practice with men like
02:25:33.940 they'll come like we'll have these days where they'll come do what we're doing they had better
02:25:37.740 aerodynamic than us they were able to do a flip a lot easier than us they were able to hold a
02:25:42.820 pyramid better than us and we and here's the thing we practice every day and that was just their first
02:25:47.660 time like doing it and it was crazy like i don't have the aerodynamics and i did gymnastics and i
02:25:53.760 still couldn't do what they were able to do when i was in high school all the the cheer coaches were
02:25:58.160 always looking for the gay kids to go join the cheer team because they needed someone to hold 0.70
02:26:02.460 all these women up yeah because i'm a man am i wrong wasn't that how it was when you were in 1.00
02:26:06.460 high school like you're right because when i i'm a main base so whenever i have a man kind of 0.84
02:26:11.760 helping it really does they were like they would literally hunt through and be like you know any
02:26:16.620 gay. I mean, if one man was like coming and they weren't good at cheering, but we'd still have them 0.99
02:26:22.260 on the team because we need them. One addition to Andrew's thing here, it's the greater male
02:26:28.560 variability hypothesis. Tiffany, can you find the Wikipedia page on that very quickly? Greater male
02:26:35.380 variability hypothesis. So Andrew's saying that on the far end, there's a higher distribution,
02:26:41.880 a higher proportion of men with like really, really high IQ, but let's not fully pedestalize
02:26:48.960 men completely on this.
02:26:50.260 On the opposite end, those who have the lowest, like the lowest of the low IQ also happens
02:26:57.120 to be men too.
02:26:59.000 Yeah, but I have problems with that.
02:27:03.260 I have problems with that.
02:27:03.860 Well, that's what it shows.
02:27:05.280 Tiffany, pull it up, please.
02:27:06.960 Do you have it?
02:27:07.860 It does show that, but it's the reasoning behind it.
02:27:10.600 So click on the graph.
02:27:12.460 This was Michael Knowles and Farah Khalidi.
02:27:15.880 So the green would be men and the blue would be women. 0.97
02:27:21.940 So you have more women in the middle.
02:27:24.140 You have a greater variability of men.
02:27:26.500 So there's going to be, yeah, go ahead.
02:27:30.540 Well, it's going to be greater variability of women in the center.
02:27:33.480 And then at the edges, you're going to see a greater variability of men, right?
02:27:37.940 That's the point of that graph.
02:27:39.440 So pull it up again.
02:27:40.500 I'll show you what I'm talking about.
02:27:42.580 So if you look at the center, is it the blue that represents women? 0.87
02:27:45.860 Yeah, blue is women.
02:27:46.580 Yeah, so if you're looking at that, 0.97
02:27:48.140 it's showing distribution in the center is more variable for women. 0.99
02:27:51.540 But that's not variability.
02:27:53.800 Well, it's showing an IQ distribution on the curve, right?
02:27:58.760 Right, but there's greater male variability
02:28:01.600 because it has a greater distribution.
02:28:05.200 Except in the middle.
02:28:06.740 That's the point, right?
02:28:07.820 But they coalesce at the middle, so there's less variability.
02:28:12.500 Right.
02:28:12.680 That's the variability.
02:28:15.000 Between men and women?
02:28:16.160 Yes. 0.99
02:28:16.440 Between men and women.
02:28:17.480 Yes, yes, yes. 0.95
02:28:17.940 Yes.
02:28:18.240 Yeah.
02:28:18.580 And then when you move over to the right of the graph, you see that men, generally speaking,
02:28:23.700 have the higher IQ on that side.
02:28:25.520 Yes.
02:28:25.900 Yeah.
02:28:26.300 Yeah.
02:28:27.620 I think we're on the same page.
02:28:28.820 Yeah, no, I think we agree.
02:28:29.700 Yeah.
02:28:30.220 Okay.
02:28:31.460 Anyways.
02:28:32.300 Okay.
02:28:32.660 I want to get into a different topic here, but I mean, are you willing to at least give
02:28:38.660 some sort of concession here?
02:28:40.620 like i feel like the way you're arguing would be as if me and andrew were like 0.85
02:28:45.540 yeah um men can also give birth like that at least to me that's kind of how retarded 0.87
02:28:52.840 this conversation has been well men can give birth if they're trans 0.98
02:28:56.680 yeah that's true can you say that out loud like five times fast like do do women do
02:29:03.780 do males in your world view as a catholic can they be women no okay then what are you talking
02:29:11.120 about i'm just making a joke she's okay and everyone laughed so yeah she's making a funny
02:29:15.660 but but it's just like even in this one dimension where uh you know this is almost
02:29:21.860 i just don't know how you can't even just grant it like i or not even grant it just take the l
02:29:28.820 like do you think women are just as good soldiers as men are not on average right but so we're
02:29:34.880 talking about the exception no so yes but hold on like let's talk about athletes right so there
02:29:40.060 are female sprinters who can beat like average men but like the best male sprinters beat all the
02:29:46.140 women's like high probably high school boy sprinters beat elite female olympian sprinters
02:29:52.800 yeah i i don't disagree that men are obviously stronger and i think that women in general because
02:29:58.060 there's less of a culture of women being in sports or doing sprinting or whatever um you probably
02:30:02.400 have like slightly less you know a bit of underrepresentation in terms of who could have 0.61
02:30:06.080 been really good for example one of the i think the best marathon runner is just like some random 0.99
02:30:10.400 woman from this indigenous tribe who runs in like heels okay actually i think i know the problem 1.00
02:30:15.800 here oh my god and i think i can clarify it so i think women uh often when you're having this 1.00
02:30:21.640 argument with them they underplay this by just saying well men are simply stronger and it's like
02:30:25.980 okay so from your view what does that mean that they're stronger that means that they have what
02:30:31.680 that women don't have or they have it in larger amounts what um generally stature generally 0.61
02:30:39.280 stature meaning height okay so they're taller yeah they're taller they have higher muscle mass 1.00
02:30:44.860 how much more muscle mass i don't know but a lot significantly a lot yeah and then larger bones
02:30:51.440 yeah larger bones less prone to injury more muscles are they less prone to injury because
02:30:56.160 they have larger bones i guess so maybe you have to be i don't know i don't know the science of
02:31:01.740 that what about their lung capacity because i know tall people what about their lung capacity 0.94
02:31:04.740 yeah are their organs larger it's fucking that's my point though right it's like okay i'm not 0.97
02:31:09.280 disputing that there are biological differences between no no i'm just saying when we're talking 0.98
02:31:13.680 about strength we're not just talking about oh they're a little bit stronger the strength
02:31:17.980 differential between the average woman
02:31:20.020 and the average man 0.99
02:31:21.580 from your perspective might as well be
02:31:24.200 the strength differential between you
02:31:26.160 and a gorilla.
02:31:27.720 Well, I think maybe that's exaggerating it.
02:31:29.940 Law of diminishing returns.
02:31:32.140 Law of diminishing returns.
02:31:33.600 For what purpose? 0.99
02:31:35.720 Because if a man can just easily kill you 0.98
02:31:37.960 with his bare hands and a gorilla can just easily 0.99
02:31:40.060 kill you with his bare hands, why would it matter 0.77
02:31:41.840 if they're a gorilla or not? 1.00
02:31:43.380 It doesn't, right. So it's the law
02:31:45.520 of diminishing returns.
02:31:46.820 Because I'm pointing out to you that the strength differential is such that you might as well be getting attacked by a gorilla.
02:31:54.340 How does diminishing returns come into this?
02:31:56.540 Because I'm just explaining to you that it wouldn't matter from your perspective if it was a gorilla attacking you or a full-grown healthy man.
02:32:04.940 The damage to you is going to be so quick and so obvious and so apparent.
02:32:08.660 And a physical altercation, yes.
02:32:09.580 Yes, right.
02:32:10.080 For sure.
02:32:10.420 So then if that's the real scale of difference we're talking about from the perspective of the average woman, that maybe puts things in perspective. 0.98
02:32:19.500 There are some women out there who are like 6'6 and like weigh 300 pounds and are massive and could probably beat some of the strongest men in the world. 0.99
02:32:26.520 Oh, my God. 1.00
02:32:27.400 You're actually retarded. 1.00
02:32:29.160 Well, there's maybe like one. 1.00
02:32:30.840 No.
02:32:31.280 Well, no.
02:32:31.600 You're being extremely rude to me right now for no reason.
02:32:34.000 No, because you're just. 0.96
02:32:35.020 You know, I never called you retarded. 1.00
02:32:36.760 I never uttered any slurs. 0.86
02:32:38.360 I thought slurs were against the rules. 1.00
02:32:40.060 no retarded is okay but it's just like you're saying a woman who's 6'6 who's 300 pounds could 0.99
02:32:46.640 take on the strongest men in the world not the strong some of the strongest some of the strongest 0.99
02:32:51.740 yes yes and so no no there's holy fuck um well how many is that why are you so mad it's not that 0.99
02:32:59.860 deep well how many is because you're just like delusional like on pills or something no well 0.99
02:33:04.680 you're you're you need to be on something for i don't know if you have what you have what do you 0.98
02:33:09.460 think i have i don't know well you're certainly neurodivergent in some fucking way but there's no 0.94
02:33:13.560 cure for that unfortunately yeah so in any case like hold on okay okay so hold on i glenn glenn 0.96
02:33:22.120 you down to come on camera all right here uh glenn come come take that seat next door no no
02:33:27.320 not that way not that way all right um so we're talking about strength right um glenn how tall
02:33:33.440 are you six foot uh and how much uh how much do you weigh uh 245 how do you you lift weights you
02:33:41.400 look like you're a muscular guy yeah how much do you bench were you weren't you uh in an olympia
02:33:46.400 or two yep i was a bodybuilder i was a competitor any uh history of like martial arts oh yeah
02:33:51.920 military oh military okay um so i would say and and glenn is you know
02:33:58.940 he's shorter than the six
02:34:02.320 woman. I don't 0.99
02:34:04.620 think that there's any woman 1.00
02:34:06.740 do I want to go as far 1.00
02:34:08.620 as like even
02:34:09.200 a pro wrestler of all time
02:34:12.760 there's actually
02:34:13.540 I would be willing to say that it's not
02:34:16.660 likely that any
02:34:18.540 woman who's trained in MMA 1.00
02:34:20.700 is going to do a great job 1.00
02:34:22.620 against you. I would actually say that that's
02:34:24.560 likely. What if she's taller and stronger 0.99
02:34:26.480 and bigger than him? That's going to be
02:34:28.580 actually difficult I don't actually know if there's any woman alive well maybe like if we're
02:34:34.560 using well I would say if we're using any well let me just say this like so my friend Gia McCool 1.00
02:34:40.720 she's six foot yeah right she's also a competitor right yeah she's six foot she's probably about 1.00
02:34:46.840 180 you know she's fit as hell yeah her workout in the gym she doesn't lift nowhere near as much 0.86
02:34:52.200 as I do yeah I can think like maybe there's like some top tier like have you done wrestling or 1.00
02:34:57.920 jiu-jitsu or anything yep i don't know your level of skill but i'd say like even a woman who's six 0.81
02:35:04.420 six inches you can fight i can get down i'd be very confident saying like it's plausible there's 1.00
02:35:10.180 like maybe some like insanely strong fucking mma lady who who's like a heavyweight or maybe but 1.00
02:35:16.300 99.99999% of women you would fucking scorch right yeah um but on the claim about strength 1.00
02:35:24.600 because Andrew was saying the 0.99
02:35:26.860 difference, you know, it's like a gorilla or whatever.
02:35:29.180 Are you down to do a little experiment?
02:35:31.480 Sure. Okay.
02:35:33.220 Now, you can opt out after
02:35:35.040 I explain what it is, but I'll propose it to you.
02:35:37.500 Are you an
02:35:39.060 athlete or anything? I used to be, yeah.
02:35:40.900 What did you do? I did soccer and a competitive dance.
02:35:43.160 Okay, so what you're going to do
02:35:44.960 is, and Glenn, if you agree to
02:35:47.020 do it, this is what
02:35:49.040 I propose. So I think a lot of
02:35:51.100 women, 1.00
02:35:51.400 a lot of women 1.00
02:35:54.120 you're going to give me a trouble here 1.00
02:35:55.280 so I used to do
02:35:58.200 I wrestled when I was in high school 1.00
02:36:00.380 and I think a lot of women 1.00
02:36:02.180 underestimate the level 1.00
02:36:04.660 of even just grip
02:36:06.480 strength that a man could do
02:36:08.520 so if you're open to it 0.96
02:36:10.160 the woman next to you she's just going to grab 0.99
02:36:12.720 your kind of your just 1.00
02:36:14.460 below your wrist and squeeze as hard
02:36:16.600 as she can okay and then
02:36:18.340 afterwards Glenn is going
02:36:20.520 to squeeze as hard as he can on
02:36:22.580 your other wrist.
02:36:24.540 Are you going to consent? I need to consent for this one.
02:36:27.040 No, I'm going to consent.
02:36:28.440 How about this? We'll do a tap out.
02:36:30.300 If it gets too painful,
02:36:32.440 you're going to... Now, do you agree to do it?
02:36:34.380 Yes, I do. We're not doing that.
02:36:35.880 I agree. I agree.
02:36:37.860 How about 30%?
02:36:40.940 Let's do this.
02:36:41.920 We'll start at...
02:36:43.660 We'll do 10, 20, 30,
02:36:45.960 40, and then if there's a point
02:36:47.760 where it hurts too much, then we'll opt out.
02:36:49.520 Okay, but do you agree that you'll let her squeeze your arm as hard as she can?
02:36:55.380 I'm not doing this.
02:36:56.380 I'm not a part of this.
02:36:57.420 No, I think it's nothing to do with this.
02:36:59.800 Okay, you should do it at the same time, though, no?
02:37:01.460 No, no, no, no.
02:37:02.060 No, just one at a time.
02:37:03.320 Okay, go ahead.
02:37:03.840 Squeeze as hard as you can.
02:37:07.860 Okay.
02:37:08.740 Is that okay?
02:37:09.460 Yeah.
02:37:10.200 All right.
02:37:11.480 Hold your arm out.
02:37:13.220 Okay, so give us...
02:37:15.480 What are you doing?
02:37:16.500 Just two fingers.
02:37:17.680 He's just doing two fingers.
02:37:19.420 Actually, wait.
02:37:20.000 Can you hold your arm out a bit more so we can see it?
02:37:22.580 Here, let's...
02:37:23.400 Yeah, okay.
02:37:24.700 Is that okay?
02:37:25.640 Yeah.
02:37:26.040 That's 10%.
02:37:26.760 Can we go up to 20%?
02:37:30.360 Now, is that about matching her level, or is it already more?
02:37:33.240 Can we go to 30?
02:37:34.120 Is that okay?
02:37:34.420 Still matching.
02:37:35.920 Okay, can we go to 40?
02:37:37.420 Can we go to 60?
02:37:38.920 About 80.
02:37:40.380 Can we go to 69?
02:37:43.660 Can we go to 670?
02:37:44.900 Wait, can you go more?
02:37:46.720 Yeah.
02:37:47.260 Okay, what are we at, 50?
02:37:48.600 yeah about okay it's the diminishing returns it's like it doesn't matter after a certain point i
02:37:56.560 just am losing circulation okay maybe it's fair maybe it's fair to stop there she lost feeling
02:38:04.380 after now i think he was probably going a little easy on you he's obviously doesn't want to get
02:38:08.600 sued and hurt you or whatever exactly but like i think women underestimate because i mean unless
02:38:14.260 you've been in like a severe physically abusive relationship with a man most women have not had
02:38:20.380 the experience of like actually been like roughed around by by a guy and so um like i mean i'm just
02:38:29.660 thinking of like a wrestling move like if a guy like just not not even a squeeze but like a yank
02:38:35.500 like a yank here like when i did corrections you just yank boom see ribs right here that that would
02:38:41.060 have been bad, wouldn't it? That would have
02:38:43.100 been a real hard one. I didn't have to do much.
02:38:45.560 But here, we got some
02:38:46.980 super chats here. Thank you for that.
02:38:48.820 Thank you for the demonstration. I'm going to go back out of here.
02:38:50.820 Yeah, of course. Thank you. Appreciate it.
02:38:52.780 Are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine.
02:38:55.000 Genuinely. Okay, good.
02:38:57.200 Burial wisdom. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
02:38:59.100 Unless we change the game, I hereby revoke
02:39:01.000 the 19th. Rename the United
02:39:02.940 States the Empire of the U.S. All
02:39:04.640 UNCS spacecraft
02:39:06.480 will carry holy bibles for our
02:39:08.700 space marines. A new age is coming, gentlemen.
02:39:11.060 Thank you, Barrioism
02:39:14.220 Arctic Airborne Recon 1.00
02:39:15.820 Women, please stop downplaying your most important role in humanity 0.84
02:39:18.320 The birth and rearing of children 0.82
02:39:20.240 Now, could you feel a force difference?
02:39:27.280 With what?
02:39:28.580 Between Glenn?
02:39:30.280 I feel like you can
02:39:30.900 A little bit
02:39:31.320 Yeah, a little bit
02:39:32.240 But not that much
02:39:33.260 I think he wasn't going like 1.00
02:39:34.520 Unless she's got the fucking gorilla grip on her 1.00
02:39:36.840 No, like I'm weak 1.00
02:39:37.680 Keep it a book
02:39:38.880 I think he was just not, like, trying too hard.
02:39:41.320 You should have let me do it.
02:39:41.940 But I genuinely didn't feel that much for the difference.
02:39:43.260 I played lacrosse.
02:39:45.000 Do you want to try, too?
02:39:46.480 All right, go for it.
02:39:47.340 All right, ready?
02:39:48.280 Go ahead, squeeze her.
02:39:48.960 My hands are sweaty, guys.
02:39:50.460 Okay.
02:39:51.300 Squeeze her. 1.00
02:39:54.860 All right, she's a fucking masochist or something. 1.00
02:39:57.920 I don't know. 1.00
02:39:58.020 Maybe I'm just superhuman.
02:39:59.140 They should put me in the special court. 0.98
02:40:00.660 I'm like, damn, that was really strong, actually. 0.98
02:40:02.840 I used to be with Marines, so, like, oh, my God. 0.99
02:40:05.520 Why don't we, I do, I feel like we need to slightly finish off on like the Christianity and feminism thing, but we've been on it pretty much since the fucking start of the show. 0.92
02:40:15.180 Let's not go back to that. 0.77
02:40:15.880 Let's just put a pin in it, though, by finishing it off.
02:40:18.840 So, given everything you heard Andrew say, do you believe that, still, that feminism is compatible with Christianity?
02:40:31.540 I believe that my beliefs are compatible with Christianity. 0.92
02:40:34.480 okay but so in the bible uh in the bible it says that uh wives obey your husbands wives submit to
02:40:41.600 your husbands do you agree with that i do okay do you think that that's feminist um yeah because
02:40:47.640 how would it be women how would it be feminist because at the end of the day women decide who 0.93
02:40:51.800 they marry and when they get married they like women don't have to get married when you get
02:40:56.280 married you're deciding i'm gonna submit to this man for the rest of my life and that's a decision
02:41:00.520 that you made I don't think that that's anti-feminist well hold on but the the idea
02:41:07.800 that a woman should either by religious doctrine or even volunteer well maybe you might argue that
02:41:16.980 feminism is all about choice and that women can volunteer to be submissive I suppose but
02:41:23.880 Christianity is not simply just a negotiation or a volunteering of your submission in that sense
02:41:33.160 it's a command it's a biblical patriarchal command to submit to your husband yes but
02:41:40.920 the bible does not command to get married it does not um right but um
02:41:49.700 oh boy i got you no you didn't i got you no you didn't get me because you think i did
02:41:58.380 you think it's a gotcha but okay hold on so um do women voluntarily enter into relationships 0.82
02:42:05.760 yes right and are there egalitarian relationships that don't call for women to be
02:42:10.120 submissive yeah some people have relationships like that right but that's not a christian
02:42:15.080 relationship right but so okay if you enter into a christian relationship then you are bound by
02:42:21.680 biblical biblical scripture which is patriarchal which is contrary to feminism
02:42:26.740 no because i'm a feminist and i submit to my man so
02:42:31.400 so okay do you think that submission to men is feminist 0.62
02:42:37.940 it can be if you're if that's the man you chose to marry that that was your decision 1.00
02:42:47.140 to be in that marriage you want to be in your feminine energy like kind of that's why you
02:42:52.160 submit to him yeah yeah i mean i could see that if a man is a good leader yeah well andrew's
02:42:57.440 going to join me on this uh segment so andrew while you're gone i was having no nothing uh 0.84
02:43:03.060 I was having an exchange with this woman just to try to finish off the feminism Christianity thing.
02:43:11.740 And, well, I was just simply asking, you know, in Christian marriages, it calls for women to obey their husbands. 0.81
02:43:20.080 It calls for women to submit to their husbands.
02:43:22.840 And so she says that her argument back to me was, well, I'm voluntarily doing this because I'm not, as a Christian, I'm not obligated to be in a relationship or to date.
02:43:38.840 So therefore, because I'm choosing to marry this man, it is a voluntary form of submission.
02:43:45.520 So it is consistent with feminism is what she's saying.
02:43:48.800 I see. I understand.
02:43:50.420 So can I just hear the argument from you, though?
02:43:52.720 Yeah, I was saying the Bible does not call us to get married.
02:43:56.640 We're not obligated to get married, according to the Bible.
02:43:59.820 But it does say that if we do get married, we must submit to our husbands.
02:44:04.580 So if you get married, that's your own decision. 0.59
02:44:06.640 Is a form of salvation for women childbirth? 0.75
02:44:11.000 Salvation?
02:44:11.780 What do you mean?
02:44:12.540 Women saved through childbirth?
02:44:15.760 No. 1.00
02:44:16.420 I mean, some women, yeah, their lives change. 1.00
02:44:20.540 You can just Google saved through childbirth. 1.00
02:44:22.960 Yeah, Genesis.
02:44:25.060 What do you mean by salvation?
02:44:26.940 We're only salvation through Jesus. 0.99
02:44:30.820 1 Timothy 2.15 states that women will be saved through childbearing. 0.96
02:44:34.700 Interesting. 0.99
02:44:36.200 What about nuns?
02:44:37.420 But yeah, are they not saved?
02:44:39.780 No, it's not that they're not saved.
02:44:41.840 And no one's saying that every woman has the calling to be a mother.
02:44:45.580 Right.
02:44:46.180 But most women do. 0.94
02:44:47.720 That's true. 0.99
02:44:48.000 And so if it's the case that most women do, what's the only way women can do that? 0.99
02:44:52.280 morally under Christian ethics.
02:44:55.900 Can you reword that, please? 1.00
02:44:57.300 What's the way that women... 1.00
02:44:59.500 So there's all sorts of ways women can become mothers, 0.93
02:45:02.520 but the moral way prescribed by Christianity is what way? 1.00
02:45:07.360 Through fornication. 0.98
02:45:09.060 And that is moral through what other preceding act? 0.96
02:45:13.780 Marriage. 0.56
02:45:14.280 Marriage.
02:45:15.040 So if that's the case, if you're called to be a mother, 0.97
02:45:18.060 which most women are, 0.91
02:45:19.620 then you would be called to marriage, right? 1.00
02:45:22.280 No.
02:45:25.880 Because I don't, yeah, no, not everyone's called to be a mother.
02:45:27.880 Then how do you, well, no, I understand.
02:45:30.960 But if you are called to be a mother.
02:45:33.100 If you are called to be a mother. 1.00
02:45:35.140 Which most women are. 0.98
02:45:36.140 It would happen. 1.00
02:45:38.520 Through marriage, right?
02:45:40.720 Right.
02:45:41.200 And so what's the prescription in marriage?
02:45:43.600 The prescription in marriage, who's the head?
02:45:46.780 Who's the Christ head? 0.55
02:45:47.540 So you're saying if you want to be a mother, you have to get married first? 0.97
02:45:50.280 Is that what you're saying? 1.00
02:45:50.940 Well, the moral prescription, so there's going to be women who have children outside of marriage. 0.99
02:45:58.240 No ifs, ands, or buts about that. 0.86
02:46:01.440 But the Christian prescription is that you get married, then have the children with your husband, right?
02:46:08.460 Yes. 0.96
02:46:08.700 That's the prescription.
02:46:09.640 Yes.
02:46:10.120 It's not saying that you can't achieve salvation if you've had children outside of marriage.
02:46:14.540 Right.
02:46:14.800 But the point is, it's giving you the prescription.
02:46:18.560 If it's the moral way for you to have the children is through marriage, right?
02:46:22.520 Then you're supposed to get married, then have the children. 0.54
02:46:24.580 That's generally how it's supposed to work, right?
02:46:26.480 Right.
02:46:26.860 We're not saying that women who have had children outside of marriage have no pathway to salvation.
02:46:31.240 That would be insane. 0.92
02:46:32.240 We're just saying that that's the prescription for how you're supposed to. 1.00
02:46:35.460 So you're saying if a woman wants to be a mother, then she has to get married. 0.94
02:46:42.380 Is that what you're... 1.00
02:46:43.060 Yes.
02:46:43.340 What is your point with this? 0.99
02:46:44.800 Well, if that's the case, then we would switch to the prescription then of how women are 0.99
02:46:49.260 to behave in marriage. 1.00
02:46:51.420 And how are they to behave in marriage?
02:46:53.160 The man operates as the Christ head.
02:46:55.580 Do you submit to Christ?
02:46:56.920 Yes.
02:46:57.300 Okay. 0.53
02:46:57.660 Well, then if the man's operating as the Christ head, who do you submit to?
02:47:01.020 Your husband. 0.93
02:47:01.640 I agree with that 100%.
02:47:02.380 So if you're submitting to the husband, then who has final say and authority of all affairs 0.52
02:47:07.920 of the household? 0.94
02:47:09.140 I agree with you 100%. 1.00
02:47:10.740 I believe that the wife should submit to the husband. 1.00
02:47:13.200 Well, then if that's the case, well, I don't understand what the argument is. 1.00
02:47:16.020 I don't either.
02:47:17.520 What are we arguing about?
02:47:18.680 Because I agree with you.
02:47:19.960 I think wives should submit to their husbands, but women do not have to get married. 0.60
02:47:25.800 That's why I think feminism still works with Christianity, because women have the choice to get married.
02:47:35.100 Yeah, but I don't understand how that would apply to Christianity. 0.80
02:47:39.300 So do you agree with me that most Christian women are called to be mothers? 0.72
02:47:44.680 They want to be.
02:47:46.200 Most of them are called to be.
02:47:48.100 All right.
02:47:48.880 Do you agree with that?
02:47:50.100 Sure.
02:47:50.780 Okay.
02:47:51.140 Well, then if that's the case.
02:47:53.080 Are you saying they have to be?
02:47:54.700 If they're called to be.
02:47:56.000 What do you mean by called to be? 1.00
02:47:57.660 Well, most women want to be mothers.
02:48:00.040 Oh, that's what I'm saying.
02:48:01.080 Do you agree with that?
02:48:01.740 Yeah.
02:48:02.200 We'll just use that language because it's easier.
02:48:04.060 Yeah.
02:48:04.200 Okay, so then there's only really one prescription for that, that is the Christian prescription, marriage, then motherhood, right?
02:48:11.120 So if marriage is an entailment of motherhood under the Christian purview, then so is submission. 0.97
02:48:17.000 So I don't know how that would fit with the feminist dynamic of equality in the household, because it's not an equal household. 0.84
02:48:23.760 I don't know how it does. 0.99
02:48:24.860 I do think feminism, though, when we say that, like, in regards to even, like, relationships, like, it doesn't really apply. 1.00
02:48:32.180 because like i mean biblically speaking like yeah like the woman does submit to the husband
02:48:36.400 but i think when we're talking about feminism overall husbands also submit to wives yes yes
02:48:41.620 like both ways yeah yeah but finish your thought go ahead um but i also think it's just more of a
02:48:47.720 societal like way of thinking like for feminism like we just just the equal rights just like i'd 1.00
02:48:52.300 say on that like kind of thing not within the marriage because that's different that's within 1.00
02:48:57.160 like well then what if your husband decrees that you don't have rights i think that's between the 0.99
02:49:01.800 husband in the way shit what what would make him a piece of shit he thinks you don't have rights 0.98
02:49:06.520 yeah i don't think that's right i think that's a little cool to say explain yourself like i don't 0.99
02:49:12.940 have to explain that it's just obvious what if he says another human being doesn't have rights
02:49:18.100 makes you a piece of shit so you don't have an obligation to transcend your fictitional rights 0.98
02:49:24.200 for your husband's needs what what what rights are we talking about for instance he doesn't want you 1.00
02:49:29.340 to be vexing so he tells you to shut up or be quiet he doesn't want to hear from you right now
02:49:34.400 right you better ask nicely why well i think that's because that's how a husband should treat
02:49:40.440 his wife i think that's just human morality hang on how is it how when you're talking about
02:49:46.360 disrespect right if jesus told you to be quiet would you yes okay i don't who's the christ head
02:49:53.640 jesus would tell me to be quiet in a very loving tone and if he didn't would you not obey he
02:50:00.080 wouldn't and if he didn't would you not if he didn't would you if you didn't would you not
02:50:05.640 obey it shouldn't even be an argument if he didn't no because why are you putting why are you putting
02:50:10.920 an evil face on jesus christ he wouldn't ask you in that type of way jesus called people whitewashed
02:50:16.240 tombs he called them uh vipers things that would get him killed at the time because they were so 1.00
02:50:20.840 insulting this idea of hippie nice jesus is insanity so the question still stands an asshole 0.99
02:50:26.400 the question still stands jesus it's really interesting when you're talking about jesus 0.99
02:50:31.840 he was actually uh insulted constantly for being a drunk and a glutton and john who he said was the
02:50:39.740 most important person besides him who didn't drink and wasn't a person who ate much right he
02:50:45.560 followed fasting rules they said he had a demon in him so jesus point was like you're going to
02:50:50.100 get criticized no matter what you're really pious you're gonna get criticized if you're not really
02:50:54.180 pious you're gonna get criticized that's just the way it is what you're talking about is a social
02:50:58.440 construction of words and how you feel i feel offended and it's like that's fine but the
02:51:03.700 question is like do you think that jesus was never offensive because he was i'm just asking you who
02:51:09.220 has who has dominion here jesus how does the husband have dominion if you get to tell him
02:51:16.060 how he is to do things who has real dominion here the bible calls a married couple to treat each
02:51:24.220 other with respect okay but who has dominion jesus and jesus and god said who's acting as
02:51:33.080 the christ head with respect who's acting as the christ head yes husbands be good your wives wives
02:51:38.640 be good to your husbands right but the thing is it's like that may not always seem like it's
02:51:43.680 respectful to the person who's in the diminutive position. Do you understand that? I sort of. Yeah.
02:51:51.100 So if that's the case, then what real submission is, is really, is actually understanding that fact
02:51:56.880 that it could, it could seem very offensive to you, very offensive to you. That's the submission
02:52:04.860 aspect. It submission is not as long as everything's going fine. You're treating me exactly how I want
02:52:10.340 to be treated then i'll submit that's selective submission it's not submission at all you may not
02:52:15.920 like it i feel like you're taking the term submission submission and running with it what
02:52:20.500 does it mean to submit to jesus christ no i feel like you're running with it as an excuse to
02:52:24.720 disrespect your wife what does it mean to submit to jesus christ to do what he says
02:52:29.920 way to give over your entirety of your body soul and will and will so if your husband's acting as
02:52:37.220 christ head you give over the entirety of your body your your your your body your will right 0.71
02:52:43.720 you're that's what you're giving to the christ head they're acting as my husband like wants to 0.97
02:52:49.100 rape me i just let him no of course not and here's here's the defense against that argument 0.96
02:52:53.860 it's this very common one so when you look at the logos logic the logi right what has to happen has
02:53:02.700 to comport with reason.
02:53:05.640 Otherwise, that's not acting Christian either. 0.96
02:53:08.280 Rape is not reasonable. 0.99
02:53:09.900 It's not rational. 0.55
02:53:11.120 It's not rational.
02:53:12.340 Yes, what you perceive as disrespect can be very rational.
02:53:16.360 You being told, for instance, to shut up in a public setting
02:53:18.660 where you could get yourself in trouble,
02:53:20.320 there's nothing irrational about that or unreasonable.
02:53:23.340 But where is there a case where it's rational to rape?
02:53:26.600 There's never a case where you can make where it's rational to rape.
02:53:31.080 Yes, of course.
02:53:31.920 There's plenty of cases where that can be rational. 0.99
02:53:33.720 It's like, hey, please be quiet, and I'll shut the fuck up. 0.88
02:53:35.740 Okay, but there could be cases where perhaps you're a person who you don't understand tone and inflection very well. 0.98
02:53:43.780 You have to be jarred out of whatever it is that you're doing. 1.00
02:53:46.540 He's like, hey, fucking, what the fuck are you doing? 0.99
02:53:49.100 And he says it in the most disrespectful way possible, jars you from what you're doing, right, doing that on your behalf. 1.00
02:53:56.300 You take it to be disrespectful.
02:53:58.180 It's like, that's fair.
02:53:59.140 You can, but there's nothing irrational about him doing that.
02:54:03.540 Rape is always irrational.
02:54:04.860 It's always, there's no way to like defend yourself from the ideals of rape, but you
02:54:11.560 can always defend yourself from the ideals of how a person feels about the things that
02:54:15.120 you say.
02:54:17.060 I just want to clarify, like, are you saying that women should submit to what their man
02:54:22.300 is saying only if it's reasonable?
02:54:24.520 No.
02:54:24.900 if you defy the comforts of christian rationality then there's a case to be made to go to your
02:54:32.680 priest or your higher church authority in order to have intervention in that marriage but like
02:54:38.920 you said if they like if he wants this is your church's teachings okay but this is your church's
02:54:45.380 teaching hang on i just want to make sure that you have an issue with your church church's
02:54:49.640 not at all but okay great then what am i saying that's in defiance of your church's teachings
02:54:54.600 I'm not saying it's in defiance, but I disagree with you.
02:54:56.980 Okay, then why are we having the conversation?
02:54:59.060 Do you believe your church's teachings?
02:55:01.380 I think you should submit.
02:55:02.480 Do you believe your church's teachings?
02:55:05.120 I do believe my church's teachings.
02:55:06.060 Okay, then why would you argue with me about your own church's teachings?
02:55:11.280 Because I think the logic that you're using is not very good.
02:55:14.300 Oh, and what's your church's logic? 0.99
02:55:16.580 Why can't you rape your wife according to the Catholic Church? 0.99
02:55:20.980 Because it's not respecting her dignity as a person. 1.00
02:55:23.360 I see.
02:55:23.920 So it doesn't comport with reason to ever do that? 0.98
02:55:31.740 Can you give me an instance where raping your wife comports with reason? 0.98
02:55:35.080 Ever? 0.99
02:55:35.560 No.
02:55:35.980 No.
02:55:36.880 No.
02:55:38.600 No.
02:55:40.460 And neither can the Catholic Church.
02:55:42.500 So they're like, well, that's in defiance of the image of God because it can't ever comport with reason.
02:55:47.620 Can you think of a reason why you could use possibly harsh language against somebody where that could comport with reason?
02:55:55.460 Answer the question I ask, then give me the defense.
02:55:59.320 Can you think of any situations where you could use harsh language where that does comport with reason?
02:56:04.800 It depends on the language.
02:56:05.820 So, yes.
02:56:06.380 If it's a slur. 0.95
02:56:06.840 Hang on, I just want to make sure.
02:56:07.940 So, yes.
02:56:08.660 Not if it's a slur.
02:56:09.200 So, can you think of a situation?
02:56:12.380 This is the question I'm asking that I want to answer to. 0.99
02:56:15.660 not bullshit that you make up in your head that you think I'm saying. 0.96
02:56:18.320 So I'm going to be really clear. 0.58
02:56:19.980 Can you think of any situations that comport with reason
02:56:22.680 where a husband could use harsh language against the wife?
02:56:25.240 Yes.
02:56:25.640 Thank you.
02:56:26.540 So if that's the case,
02:56:27.380 I'm giving you the exact same teachings of your very same religion.
02:56:30.360 Yeah, but my issue, which you didn't let me get to,
02:56:32.820 is that if it's about what comports with reason,
02:56:37.980 and you're not supposed to do what your husband says if it's unreasonable,
02:56:40.660 and this doesn't only extend to personal matters,
02:56:42.500 but also on things like faith.
02:56:43.660 Clarify what reason is.
02:56:44.920 Clarify what reason is.
02:56:46.520 Well, reason according to, like, Christianity is, I guess, stuff that's...
02:56:50.800 No, no, according to Catholicism.
02:56:53.140 Well, it's following God's law.
02:56:54.740 That's your religion.
02:56:55.580 Well, hang on.
02:56:57.280 That's not the only idea of reason, right?
02:57:01.300 Well, that's the all-encompassing way to define it.
02:57:04.260 Well, wait a second.
02:57:05.600 It can be, you know, unreasonable and be following God's law.
02:57:09.520 Well, hang on.
02:57:10.020 That's just saying how reason can be applied, not telling me what reason is.
02:57:12.760 Well, you did let me finish my prayer, actually.
02:57:13.760 That's because I need a clarification of what reason is under your worldview.
02:57:16.880 For this point that I'm making, it doesn't matter, actually.
02:57:19.200 Well, then I don't care about it.
02:57:20.560 If you're not going to clarify what reason means.
02:57:23.300 Regardless of what reason is, if you're saying that a husband only has a right to tell his wife to do things that are reasonable.
02:57:29.840 That's not what I said.
02:57:31.880 Well, she doesn't have to submit if it's not reasonable. 0.63
02:57:33.540 It has to comport to the idea of the teachings of the church with reason.
02:57:38.400 And who gets to make the decision ultimately?
02:57:40.640 The husband? 0.89
02:57:41.560 And if the woman has recourse against the husband, who does she go to?
02:57:45.560 Depends on the sect. 0.90
02:57:47.600 No, she goes to your sect. 0.56
02:57:49.760 Who does she go to?
02:57:50.980 The priest.
02:57:51.560 Yes, the priest.
02:57:52.680 So the priest is going to be able to identify if it comports with God's reason, right?
02:57:56.100 Yeah, but you're not Catholic, right?
02:57:57.780 I'm Orthodox, even better. 0.69
02:57:59.200 Oh, I thought you were Protestant.
02:58:00.600 You were wrong.
02:58:01.080 Let's read this from Rachel Wilson.
02:58:02.020 You were wrong.
02:58:03.980 This one's related, so we'll read it.
02:58:07.360 Here, do you want to read this?
02:58:10.240 Me?
02:58:10.660 Yeah.
02:58:11.300 There are times a husband has to take a stern tone or use words you don't like.
02:58:16.060 I'm lucky enough to have a husband who knows when that's needed for my welfare.
02:58:20.480 You should be so lucky.
02:58:21.700 Learn your place.
02:58:24.060 Yeah.
02:58:24.300 So you think there's no circumstance in which a husband can or should tell his wife to shut up?
02:58:32.240 I think the way I was looking at it, I'm hearing him say this.
02:58:35.940 I'm like, ew, no, I wouldn't listen to you.
02:58:37.860 But when I imagine my ex saying that to me in a very intense situation where he would need to be like, shut up, then I, when I think about it like that, then it's like, okay, yeah, then I probably would.
02:58:48.420 Right.
02:58:48.940 And it makes sense.
02:58:49.920 It comports with reason, right? 0.85
02:58:51.280 It comports with what you would consider Christian reason to be. 0.95
02:58:53.060 Right, like there's an intruder in the house, and he's like, shut up, you know?
02:58:55.720 But whatever your quibble is going to be, I just want to make sure that you're not going to give me a secular quibble. 0.67
02:59:00.360 No, my issue is with the idea that if it has to be reasonable, the woman is assessing whether it's reasonable or not.
02:59:07.640 No.
02:59:08.600 So how would she know if it's reasonable or not?
02:59:10.340 Who does she go to for recourse?
02:59:11.900 So it's like each time you're not sure if you should listen to your husband, you go to the priest.
02:59:15.460 I guarantee you not a single parish operates.
02:59:17.500 Well, yes, they do.
02:59:19.100 And where the hell did you ever get the idea that couples don't utilize their priest for marital issues when one thinks the other one's being unfair?
02:59:27.040 Where did you ever get the idea that in Catholicism, your religion, that priests are not there specifically to engage with couples who are married having marital issues where the woman says, I'm having a struggle with my husband's leadership because he's doing A, B, C, or D.
02:59:44.560 Can we get this? 0.84
02:59:45.580 Don't they do that actually all the time, nonstop?
02:59:48.200 I agree that that's their role, but I think that women will generally not bring, like, things that they're unsure of because they're mostly using them as, like, a mediator when things get really bad, when they just need someone to confirm, when their husband won't listen. 0.73
03:00:01.480 Yeah, so what?
03:00:01.620 But that's only the most extreme.
03:00:03.080 So what?
03:00:03.800 So what?
03:00:04.680 So for, like, minor disagreements, for example, when it has something to do with the kids' schooling.
03:00:09.440 Then just submit.
03:00:10.280 That's what submission is.
03:00:11.140 If you have a minor disagreement, why are you just not submitting?
03:00:13.320 Well, yeah, that's the point, is if you're assessing it, whether it's reasonable or not, then the wife has to have the capacity to say, no, that's unreasonable.
03:00:21.400 You see how you're equivocating again? 1.00
03:00:23.300 No, because... 0.75
03:00:24.200 When you say reasonable as opposed to rational, and rationality has to comport with Christian rationality, you continuously equivocate, move between the meaning of words. 0.75
03:00:36.180 You're saying reasonable as, like, it's reasonable that you drink that beer, Andrew, that's reasonable, right?
03:00:43.320 But the equivocation is you haven't actually defined what you consider Christian rationality to be.
03:00:50.500 And so when you don't do that and you just say, this is what is reasonable, this is what is not, you can be no basis to even work with.
03:00:57.100 So what is Christian rationality to you?
03:01:00.200 Well, first of all, I don't really see the distinction. 0.94
03:01:02.280 Then why do I care?
03:01:02.820 I feel like Christian reason and Christian rationality.
03:01:04.540 That's great.
03:01:04.960 So if you see no distinction, then you should have no problem telling me what Christian rationality is.
03:01:10.180 well it depends on what each specific it depends on you just tell me you following the word of
03:01:15.200 god i'm just asking you following the word of god okay great what does that mean like like for
03:01:20.240 example waiting till marriage because that's what the bible says okay so you because you're
03:01:23.360 commanded to yes and are you commanded to obey your husband yes and submit hang on and submit
03:01:28.320 hang on and submit they're literally hang on and submit they're literally hang on and submit
03:01:34.160 They're literally saints who became saints because they didn't submit.
03:01:38.820 This is an infinite loop because you ask questions, which I answer, but when I ask questions, you refuse.
03:01:42.940 Generally speaking, yes, but not always.
03:01:44.740 Okay, great.
03:01:45.440 You see things as very black and white, so I need to clarify.
03:01:47.260 I'm not saying it as black and white.
03:01:49.520 Christianity is pluralistic.
03:01:51.200 You have to take your shoes off in Japan to show respect for your parents.
03:01:54.420 You don't have to do that in Texas.
03:01:56.060 No, I'm not talking about that at all.
03:01:57.240 Hang on, hang on.
03:01:57.880 Yeah, but I am.
03:01:58.600 I'm saying that that's pluralism.
03:02:00.100 You say it's black and white.
03:02:01.180 I literally just gave you an example of how it's not.
03:02:03.020 can you please answer what i'm asking you about christian rationality what is it i already said
03:02:09.380 it's it's following and obeying god okay and if you're unsure on the word of god who do you go to
03:02:13.500 hang on if you're unsure on the word of god who do you go to you're supposed to go to the priest
03:02:16.880 great people don't for every small fantastic okay but now can i say what i was saying i can't wait 1.00
03:02:21.920 um as a general rule women are commanded to do certain things they're also outliers and like in 0.94
03:02:28.960 any situation a husband who's like very abusive to his wife it's going to be like somewhat of an 0.90
03:02:33.680 outlier situation anyway and within those cases you don't have to submit to them actually um for
03:02:38.780 example there are lots of christian rationality that doesn't comport with rationality yeah but
03:02:43.020 the woman has to assess and decide that it doesn't comport with rationality so she's only submitting
03:02:47.060 because she's choosing nobody's saying what she's submitting hang on hang on so she's not really
03:02:51.640 submitting in the sense that you're saying oh i see so can a woman submit when they think something's
03:02:55.460 not rational well like what's an example uh like for instance um my husband told me to do this
03:03:02.560 thing and it made me really angry but i did it anyway even though i thought it was silly
03:03:05.860 in some small cases yes great so you can still comport to your biblical ethics even as the
03:03:13.800 assessor even if you're unsure you go with the command of submission and if you're really unsure
03:03:20.120 and think there's abuse going on, who do you go to?
03:03:23.820 Who do you go to?
03:03:24.780 The priest.
03:03:25.240 Oh, okay, so there's like a chain of command.
03:03:27.000 It's like we have this down and have for thousands of years. 1.00
03:03:29.700 Yeah, but the point that I'm making is the woman still has to think about the situation 1.00
03:03:32.620 and independently decide that it's not rational. 1.00
03:03:34.740 Of course.
03:03:35.560 Okay, so she's still, even though she's submitting to something that she doesn't quite understand,
03:03:39.400 she's still choosing to submit to that for the health of the relationship.
03:03:42.200 No, she's submitting because she has a duty to submit.
03:03:47.940 she may not even be assessing
03:03:51.240 that it's for the health of the relationship.
03:03:53.640 Okay, but that's the purpose of the duty.
03:03:55.700 It doesn't mean that she's assessing it that way.
03:03:59.060 Well, ideally she should. 1.00
03:04:00.640 If she's not, maybe she's dumb. 1.00
03:04:01.980 I don't know. 0.99
03:04:02.460 Well, that doesn't make her dumb either. 0.94
03:04:03.800 I feel like most women would assess it internally. 0.97
03:04:06.460 Maybe they wouldn't verbalize all of it, 0.99
03:04:07.920 but they would be like,
03:04:08.560 no, is this fight worth it or no?
03:04:10.520 Even most people who are not Christians
03:04:11.900 address most relationships qualities like that.
03:04:13.660 I see what you're suing.
03:04:16.040 So why do you think I'm taking woman's choice out of this?
03:04:19.880 Well, because you're saying my understanding of this initial disagreement was that you're choosing to submit the second you get married, right?
03:04:29.840 That's what I was saying.
03:04:30.740 Yeah, but like the second you get married, you're choosing to submit, correct?
03:04:35.160 Yeah, but not on everything.
03:04:36.260 Yeah.
03:04:36.480 Okay.
03:04:36.900 But what are you not choosing to submit on?
03:04:39.620 That's rational.
03:04:42.280 Like if your husband has an irrational point of view, for example.
03:04:45.280 then that's not rational then that's not rational you have to assess that it's rational in that
03:04:49.240 specific moment but not merely go well i'm married therefore i'm not even going to think about it
03:04:53.140 right so all you're saying is this is the actual question you're asking me andrew what if it's the
03:04:59.380 case that i'm supposed to submit but i think what my husband's doing is irrational well and then
03:05:05.980 who's the assessor there who gets to determine that it's rational i'm not asking i'm not asking
03:05:10.680 but ultimately the thing that's funny is like you still aren't the ultimate assessor there
03:05:15.180 because who do you go to
03:05:17.680 who's the ultimate assessor
03:05:19.240 on whether or not
03:05:20.080 what the husband's doing
03:05:20.900 is rational?
03:05:21.800 The church.
03:05:22.360 Oh, the church.
03:05:23.240 Oh, that's really so who's...
03:05:24.440 So you're not actually
03:05:25.320 the ultimate arbiter
03:05:26.280 of the submission.
03:05:27.720 The thing that I'm disagreeing with...
03:05:28.940 Uh-huh, go ahead.
03:05:29.700 What are you disagreeing with?
03:05:30.420 I'm moving it on.
03:05:31.180 I'm sorry, you guys...
03:05:31.900 I actually just want to hear
03:05:32.760 what you're disagreeing with. 1.00
03:05:33.800 I'm saying that women 0.65
03:05:34.820 in a marriage actively choose 0.93
03:05:36.680 when to submit
03:05:37.280 and when not to submit.
03:05:38.020 They're not automatically submitting
03:05:39.420 once they get married.
03:05:41.660 Yes, sure.
03:05:42.120 It's an active constant choice
03:05:43.240 that's dependent
03:05:44.080 on their cognitive ability.
03:05:45.500 And they also choose
03:05:46.120 what to eat for dinner
03:05:46.900 and what not to eat for dinner.
03:05:48.400 But, by the way,
03:05:49.340 I just want to point out
03:05:50.280 that can you agree with me
03:05:51.700 that under Sharia law 1.00
03:05:53.000 where women supposedly 0.70
03:05:54.000 have no choice 1.00
03:05:54.720 that they're still choosing
03:05:55.660 whether to submit to it or not?
03:05:57.840 Yeah, but significantly less.
03:05:59.200 Yeah, but even if force is there,
03:06:00.560 they still make a choice,
03:06:01.500 don't they?
03:06:01.920 Yeah, they chose
03:06:02.340 to be in that situation.
03:06:03.400 It's not a free choice,
03:06:04.040 so it depends on the situation.
03:06:07.300 It is a free choice.
03:06:08.680 You could go out
03:06:09.440 and get your head 1.00
03:06:09.860 fucking cut off, 1.00
03:06:10.700 couldn't you? 1.00
03:06:11.140 And that's what makes it
03:06:11.820 not really a free choice
03:06:12.820 Because you're obviously not going to do that.
03:06:14.900 You still have the choice.
03:06:16.660 Not really.
03:06:17.460 Not in a qualitative sense.
03:06:18.860 Not in the whole meaning.
03:06:20.240 Not in the whole meaning.
03:06:20.940 Like free speech, for example.
03:06:22.420 This is why we're against banning free speech on Instagram.
03:06:25.020 Even though it's technically legal.
03:06:26.920 It's against the public.
03:06:27.800 Do you have the choice to die or not?
03:06:30.920 I mean, technically, but not really.
03:06:33.600 Oh, so then none of the people.
03:06:35.180 Yeah, because we're driven by instinct.
03:06:36.460 I just want to make sure.
03:06:39.200 Under coercion.
03:06:39.980 Under coercion, it is the case that you're not choosing to die?
03:06:44.520 I'm sorry, please.
03:06:45.160 Under coercion, it is the case you're not choosing to die?
03:06:48.340 Yeah.
03:06:48.900 Okay, well, then Jesus didn't die for your sins.
03:06:51.780 It was under coercion.
03:06:53.960 It was under coercion.
03:06:55.680 He couldn't choose.
03:06:58.120 It was under coercion.
03:06:59.080 No, he did choose because we're all Christians.
03:07:00.680 He was not only a person.
03:07:01.920 So all of his apostles.
03:07:03.440 He didn't really die.
03:07:04.820 His soul continued living.
03:07:06.300 None of his apostles, all their martyrdom meant nothing.
03:07:09.980 they didn't actually choose that because i just want to make sure i just want to make sure because
03:07:14.740 it was under coercion so it was you know they couldn't actually choose that but you have a 0.73
03:07:19.600 choice even with the sharia law you have you have a choice when you brought up the example of women
03:07:26.040 under sharia law but they chose to be in that oppression okay in that religion they let the men
03:07:31.300 i know but they're not you're interrupting me you're interrupting me what made the apostle
03:07:36.420 sacrifice meaningful they had a choice where they could recant from jesus christ and under
03:07:42.660 coercion did not and so therefore that's what made it meaningful right hang on yes so then
03:07:49.300 under sharia law do they have a choice yes uh yes i never said no but i'm saying it's not really
03:07:57.020 i'll give you you said not really i'll give you like another example like uh all right
03:08:01.660 a parent tells their child that they have to go to school they don't really they can run away
03:08:06.760 they can try to go to the cps whatever but they're not really gonna do that in the vast majority of
03:08:12.820 cases for most people it's not fully a choice i think it's a spectrum and a spectrum yeah it's
03:08:18.040 yeah yeah a lot of things are the apostles were just on that end of the spectrum yeah oh okay
03:08:22.920 yeah they were less concerned that's cool that's super clarifying yeah they were less 1.00
03:08:26.680 shut your fucking mouth 1.00
03:08:29.740 all right burial wisdom 1.00
03:08:31.300 Brian in this age of renegotiating the sexes 1.00
03:08:33.760 why do feminists cite Eurasian 1.00
03:08:35.320 matrilineal societies yet ignore 1.00
03:08:37.800 that they still enforce gender rules 1.00
03:08:39.900 gender rules organize
03:08:41.660 duties inheritance kinship and community
03:08:43.680 religion likewise places responsibility
03:08:45.860 for the order
03:08:46.980 burial wisdom thank you for your
03:08:49.840 super chat appreciate it man
03:08:51.620 appreciate it man all right
03:08:53.540 we're going to move on to something else
03:08:55.560 I mean, I'm trying to even remember, did we finish the relationship status?
03:09:00.900 I think we did.
03:09:03.240 I mean, we were talking about Christian reconciling feminism with Christianity. 0.86
03:09:07.700 You're a Muslim feminist.
03:09:10.380 We can perhaps engage for a few minutes. 0.99
03:09:13.600 That was the thing she didn't want to get into was the Islamic stuff.
03:09:17.360 I think during the debate, but are you fine talking about it now?
03:09:19.600 I would prefer not to talk about religion.
03:09:21.960 But you are indeed a Muslim and you are indeed a feminist? 0.96
03:09:24.600 Indeed. 1.00
03:09:25.260 Okay.
03:09:25.560 I mean, then I'll just give my take.
03:09:28.840 You're obviously under an obligation to respond, I suppose.
03:09:31.980 Which one way to coerce me into it?
03:09:33.320 Go ahead.
03:09:33.600 How would that be coercive?
03:09:34.780 I just told you I don't want to talk about it, and you said I'm going to give it a opinion.
03:09:37.320 Well, you don't.
03:09:37.820 Hold on.
03:09:38.600 Well, I didn't say you have to respond.
03:09:41.720 Did you not just say that?
03:09:43.460 No, I said you don't have to respond.
03:09:45.200 Oh, I thought you said you did.
03:09:45.640 But I'm free as the host of the...
03:09:47.080 Oh, I thought you said that I had to respond.
03:09:48.820 Okay, go ahead.
03:09:48.980 No, I didn't.
03:09:50.020 No, you're free not to.
03:09:50.940 You're free not to respond. 1.00
03:09:52.380 so uh yeah i ultimately it's much much similar to christianity islam and feminism is completely
03:10:01.000 incompatible now again you're under no obligation to respond but it's completely and you can hold 1.00
03:10:07.780 your it's it's completely incompatible uh anyways i'm gonna notice how she is like she's not like a
03:10:13.800 full like like you're not wearing a hijab like you're like less how do i say this like more of 0.97
03:10:20.300 casual many muslim women don't work i don't know how to say it but like many muslim women do not 0.55
03:10:25.180 wear hijabs it just depends it really does depend and you said like tilt your mic down tilt your 0.86
03:10:30.560 mic down they have fractures the same way protestants do uh yeah right exactly and
03:10:36.680 so she has different beliefs i guess there's different types of islam
03:10:42.660 there's not one islam yeah that's correct they see it differently one thing about islam that's
03:10:49.780 interesting oh no unlike protestants and this is very quick unlike protestants they see the
03:10:55.560 distinctions and denominations as mostly being non-problematic and they'd rather go after the
03:11:00.360 core message and they consider they consider that better than protestants do yeah they have more of
03:11:07.300 a well protestants also agree on like the trinity and like don't care anyways moving it on they
03:11:11.900 don't okay i wish they did please um i think uh the time for that's probably passed so you know
03:11:21.300 what's respectful after given multiple instructions especially during the show to yield to the host
03:11:27.280 and i'm trying to move things along uh after having given the instruction and like tried
03:11:33.960 multiple times and expressed multiple times to yield she continuously is in defiance of our 1.00
03:11:40.260 instructions that's disrespectful but you're such a feminist that you can only view things from the 1.00
03:11:46.160 paradigm of man bad what when women do things shut the fuck up when when men do a lesbian if 1.00
03:11:54.180 only only men have like women are these perpetual perpetual beings that must be coddled and 1.00
03:12:01.540 protected whereas men are only the ones who can be responsible for any sort of thing she's been 0.92
03:12:07.360 disrespectful herself how constant interruption and then constant unyielding if i start speaking
03:12:14.540 you yield i always yield it no you haven't except when i thought you literally didn't just yield
03:12:20.580 there were multiple times you didn't yield i was like okay that's good i'm gonna read the super
03:12:25.120 chat now and you continue on just stop talking i thought someone was directing something at me
03:12:29.420 like i'm not trying to interrupt you how does that why would that matter because i'm not 0.93
03:12:36.060 no andrew said something and then you want to fucking monopolize the conversation there's other 1.00
03:12:42.340 women here i know you're neurodivergent but try to be like somewhat aware that i'm trying to move 1.00
03:12:48.160 the conversation on get other people involved here accidentally interrupting someone is not
03:12:53.480 as rude as name calling and raising your voice it's not it's not the same thing i don't frankly
03:12:58.140 i don't care what were you go ahead i it's still disrespectful regardless like if there's rules
03:13:02.780 there's rules set for a reason and I think even beyond that like her getting angry at you and I
03:13:08.440 and saying that we're switching on like girls or whatever it was like it's just overall just 0.96
03:13:13.540 been disrespectful you mean her yes her like the whole entire time just she's a fat look you're a
03:13:20.040 feminist you're a sisterhood um let's get into your notes since you've uh you've stoked my ire 0.55
03:13:26.580 uh okay so and you you sort of gave me flack last time because you find the the topics on the show 1.00
03:13:36.300 somewhat um uh perverse i guess your tiktok name is ella is has vagina in the title who are you 0.80
03:13:45.360 especially as a christian to lecture me about me bringing your your main thing was brian you talk 0.98
03:13:50.860 about the body count topic and that's perverted you ask women their body count that's perverted
03:13:55.320 the big labia thing that's perverted big labia thing that's perverted people what they're yeah 1.00
03:14:00.140 don't ask you what your dick looks like i mean you women ask me if uh if i'm circumcised women 1.00
03:14:06.320 ask me if i'm circumcised or not or sometimes they do in fact ask me that question but it's 1.00
03:14:10.360 just interesting because yeah it's just interesting because your tiktok username has vagina in it is 1.00
03:14:16.600 she smoking outside or yeah okay um your tiktok username has vagina in it as a christian that 0.99
03:14:23.280 seems like look i'm i'm agnostic i'm pro-christian but i'm agnostic so it seems like i have a bit 0.97
03:14:30.580 more breathing room to uh talk about these things than someone who is perhaps a christian 0.97
03:14:35.680 like do you think it's consistent with christianity to put vagina in your tiktok username 1.00
03:14:42.380 it's just a body part ella so like ella pussy would be okay then that's a little more vulgar 0.99
03:14:49.200 i feel like okay all the vagina i just thought it was funny i made it like eighth grade i thought 0.99
03:14:53.980 it was funny i've kept it since i don't understand what's the vulgarity there other than some like 0.96
03:14:59.420 social taboo that you decided makes it more vulgar than the other thing they're saying 0.98
03:15:04.920 the exact same thing like shit and poop like who like who are you fooling who who's a person 0.99
03:15:09.900 when they're like let's change when they're like oh shit versus oh poop i always think 1.00
03:15:15.120 you virtue signaling fuck like i know for sure that you're saying the word shit right now and 1.00
03:15:21.440 you just think that i'm so stupid that i'm just going to be like oh you said poop instead so 1.00
03:15:25.540 that's even though it's referencing the exact same thing right so someone says pussy or vagina 1.00
03:15:32.280 aren't we just referencing the same exact thing okay love it um you you believe it's selfish to 0.99
03:15:37.960 have children that seems completely inconsistent with christianity why is it selfish to have 0.98
03:15:43.040 children because i think that like the the world is coming to shit it is the environmental clock 0.95
03:15:51.120 is running out and so to bring children in this world bring new children into this world i just 0.76
03:15:57.820 so if i want biological children as opposed to either not having them or adopting them i'm 0.96
03:16:02.640 selfish kind of yeah you're retarded i'm sorry i could like debate you on that it's just so 0.95
03:16:09.540 retarded it's you're selfish if you want biological children andrew do you have anything on that well 0.99
03:16:15.220 it's interesting because earlier she actually made a good point she said i watched your wife 0.99
03:16:20.720 talk about how we're in a birth rate crisis you know you only get a couple of generations of that
03:16:26.400 before whole nations societies are devastated one of the biggest problems for humanity classically
03:16:34.500 has been keeping the birth rate up because of infant mortality.
03:16:38.480 So isn't the least selfish thing that you could do
03:16:41.480 would be to have children
03:16:42.540 and then pump your resources into those children?
03:16:46.060 Isn't the most selfish thing to do
03:16:47.640 to keep all your resources to yourself
03:16:49.800 for your own personal selfish whims?
03:16:52.680 I feel like the earth's going to be done for in the next hundred years.
03:16:57.480 Yeah, but how would your children affect that?
03:17:01.120 Why would I want to bring them into that?
03:17:03.560 i'm pretty sure yeah like with the no with the like the all the data centers being built right
03:17:09.700 now and the water pollution oh my god that does not get reversed by the water cycle by the way
03:17:16.260 hold on humans humans have first off much of the environmental claims the environmentalists
03:17:23.120 they're completely overstated much of it is hyperbole um you know going back when who was
03:17:28.320 that presidential candidate who made the an uncomfortable what was that do you know the
03:17:32.360 documentary al gore al gore he had this documentary and he he predicted that i don't know when it was
03:17:38.140 in 2010 in 2020 there's going to be uh it's the world is going to look completely different and
03:17:44.260 it's like actually no much of the predictions from these environmentalists uh back in the 90s
03:17:51.220 and the early 2000s all of them completely wrong completely wrong and then the second thing though
03:17:56.140 Is that even if, you know, obviously humans do cause some degree of harm environmentally.
03:18:04.320 That's undisputable.
03:18:06.180 However, humans have means through, and there is currently, it's currently being developed.
03:18:13.680 Through human genius, like I'm optimistic on this, through human genius, through human ingenuity,
03:18:20.060 we will find solutions to potential future environmental concerns and problems that may arise.
03:18:29.180 And so, well, I mean, we're already doing it in many ways and we're tackling it.
03:18:33.480 So this idea that I'm much more blackpilled on like the threat of AI as compared to like the potential environmental ramifications, at least as they currently are projected.
03:18:50.060 But AI is a far more greater existential threat than continued fossil fuel usage and other environmental impacts due to human consumption.
03:19:00.820 I don't think it's a threat at all.
03:19:02.460 AI? I think it's a threat.
03:19:03.600 It's a huge threat.
03:19:04.280 That aside, that aside, not really.
03:19:06.860 The godfather of AI said so himself.
03:19:09.340 Well, okay, but I'm not, that's secondary.
03:19:11.880 I'm not really interested in having an AI discussion here.
03:19:15.540 but i i don't understand though how it follows well i i guess we could combat your argument that 0.98
03:19:23.300 well the world is going to turn to shit so therefore we shouldn't have children 0.98
03:19:28.100 so your argument is like if do you think everyone should think like you 0.99
03:19:31.740 no i think there's people in the world that should have children but it's selfish
03:19:38.580 for a lot of people yeah for a lot of people so but i also think she's basing it off of something
03:19:46.560 that she's not even like sure of like we the world could still literally be here in a hundred years
03:19:51.220 and say that you do call the woman that didn't want children like selfish now and say that's a
03:19:55.960 good majority that end up don't like population will literally decrease like just off of like a
03:20:01.260 no no it's okay like just based off of a theory or just any idea yeah so what you're saying is like
03:20:06.680 why would you curtail your genetic line if it was the case that you don't even know what the outcome is?
03:20:12.440 If there's no definitive proof, then it's kind of like, eh.
03:20:14.700 That makes sense to me.
03:20:15.820 I would say, like, I see both sides of this argument, and I'm not going to both sides it.
03:20:20.480 I only fall on one side.
03:20:21.680 But I do understand the one side and almost want to agree with it only because of this.
03:20:27.220 The people who want to become genetic dead ends, I kind of want to let them.
03:20:32.400 Like, I kind of do.
03:20:33.580 I'm kind of like, oh, you don't want to breed? 1.00
03:20:36.680 Like, good, I hope your whole fucking bloodline now dies, my bloodline now thrives, there's less of you to share resources with, so go be a genetic dead end. 0.99
03:20:48.480 I think that all people have the view of antinatalism and nihilism. 0.99
03:20:52.880 Maybe they shouldn't breed, because if they don't, that view dies with them, right?
03:20:57.880 If it's harmful, then yeah, that can be an agreement.
03:21:00.200 Now, we have a message from Rachel.
03:21:01.940 with them because my parents
03:21:04.120 are like, they had five
03:21:06.240 kids. They're very pro-having
03:21:08.320 children, you know? Okay, cool.
03:21:10.360 God commands us to go forth and
03:21:12.240 multiply. Human beings are icons
03:21:14.260 of Christ and God's favorite creation. Christianity
03:21:16.180 is explicitly pro-natalist. 0.99
03:21:18.880 Pink Top hasn't had one
03:21:20.140 Christian take yet. Even if it was the case 1.00
03:21:22.340 that
03:21:24.220 from an earthly
03:21:25.860 analysis that the world was going 1.00
03:21:28.180 to shit, it wouldn't be Christian 0.99
03:21:30.040 to suggest that uh it's selfish to want to have children like it's it's contrary to christianity 1.00
03:21:36.500 i you also said you're a christian think that um like what if everybody thought this way like
03:21:41.680 people still have kids on accident and that's how most people are made
03:21:45.520 and i don't think like if you get pregnant on accident i don't think you should go get an
03:21:51.620 abortion because it would be pro-life or pro-choice child pro-life okay can i can i ask you
03:21:57.280 if you'll engage just very quickly in a thought experiment with me and i think i can change your
03:22:03.040 mind on antinatalism maybe very quickly very quickly okay so it's the year 1400 and you have
03:22:12.820 a child and you wake up in the morning walk me through your day you have to like i don't even
03:22:19.780 know 1400 yeah yeah just take your best guess get up uh then you go get the baby if it's awake
03:22:26.040 And then probably breastfeed and then step outside for some fresh air, come back in, make some breakfast for everyone that needs it.
03:22:41.420 The idea of modernity has sunk into your brain so much that convenience has destroyed the entire idea of what human beings actually.
03:22:50.800 I don't think parents are bad people.
03:22:52.700 Here's what would actually happen.
03:22:53.960 In the year 1400, you'd wake up, you'd go out, and you'd be thankful that your child didn't die overnight and wasn't consumed by something.
03:23:00.160 The first thing you would do is check them for bugs.
03:23:02.700 You'd be looking for bugs, ticks, any type of thing that was all over them, right?
03:23:07.800 What is your thoughts on IVF?
03:23:09.080 Then you would go through, and you would spend time by spring washing the baby's clothes so that you had enough cloth to change them.
03:23:15.240 And when he's talking about food, he might be like, well, it's pretty scarce this year.
03:23:19.420 The only thing it gets is breastfeeding. 1.00
03:23:21.340 But you, the mom, man, you're in a world of shit, and you live in a mud hut. 1.00
03:23:25.180 Man, that sucks. 1.00
03:23:25.900 And there's no electricity, and you're a peasant, and you get the king's levy on top of that, 0.98
03:23:32.120 and your husband's off fighting a foreign war because a local knight levied him.
03:23:35.680 That was also back when there was no children in adoption.
03:23:40.440 Yes, there were adopted children.
03:23:41.800 They called them orphanages.
03:23:42.920 And where do you think kids went when mommy and daddy got killed?
03:23:46.100 They went to orphanages.
03:23:47.760 Because my whole point is, you have every modern convenience possible for children.
03:23:53.440 Every one of them you could imagine.
03:23:55.100 The only thing you could imagine in the year 1400 is you'd wake up and it would be just like it is now.
03:23:59.840 You would just accept non-electricity.
03:24:01.820 Like when the lights go off during a power outage.
03:24:04.560 And it's like, it's the most convenient time in the world to ever have a child and raise them. 0.99
03:24:08.260 And you're just like, the world's going to shit though. 0.99
03:24:10.960 It's like, if you lived in the 1400s, you would fucking kill your mammy to be where you're at right now to have children. 1.00
03:24:16.740 Man, you'd kill your mom, I promise. 1.00
03:24:19.240 Go ahead. 1.00
03:24:19.680 Okay, so you said you're pro-life, but you just said it's selfish to have kids.
03:24:27.560 Yeah.
03:24:28.380 So that doesn't make sense.
03:24:29.660 No, that doesn't make sense.
03:24:30.860 So usually people who are trying to have abortions, I'm talking.
03:24:36.520 Usually when people are having abortions is because they're not able to bring a kid in this world financially
03:24:43.060 or they were raped or something like that.
03:24:45.440 but you just said you don't want people having kids or that you wouldn't have them because it's
03:24:49.940 selfish because the world is economically like plummeting but but saying you're pro-choice
03:24:57.240 sorry pro-life doesn't make sense at all okay um yeah we're not gonna get into the abortion thing
03:25:02.700 but um so just can you give some backing to why you think it's selfish to have children
03:25:09.560 so it's it's in the environment and i also think like a lot of people like when they have children
03:25:16.500 or when they're planning to have children they just assume that their children are going to be
03:25:20.660 like perfectly healthy and have the perfect mental health and they're never going to struggle with
03:25:24.580 anything they just assume that their child's going to love life not everyone loves being alive
03:25:30.660 and i don't know it's just so because i've personally been through like some like
03:25:37.540 like what the fuck is life you know like i'm not suicidal but like wondering like what is this
03:25:44.400 i've never been suicidal but i know people that have been so we shouldn't continue the species 0.97
03:25:51.600 because some people will be depressed got it that's your position i mean that's your position
03:25:57.920 i'm never judging anyone else for having children i just think you guys act like selfish is this
03:26:03.680 horrible term it's like you with the average thing you're like you say oh it's not a bad thing
03:26:08.480 to be average i'm saying it's not a bad thing to be selfish i would say eating meat is selfish i
03:26:14.180 eat meat sometimes but that's the way it is people are selfish people make selfish decisions and
03:26:20.200 there's it's not necessarily a bad thing there's two scenarios though there's not having children
03:26:25.560 and then there's having children so from your perspective having children is selfish not having
03:26:31.680 children is that also selfish or is it not selfish i'd say that it's not selfish right so
03:26:42.100 then you would have to you'd have to make some sort of claim then that you're more moral i'm
03:26:47.680 not saying that i'm more well then why is it okay so when you talk about selfishness do you think
03:26:54.100 that there's degrees of selfishness which are moral which are immoral well um i would there
03:27:01.560 are like murdering someone to because they know a secret about you that you don't want them to
03:27:06.320 know yeah that's pretty selfish selfish yeah so i mean under the christian view selfishness
03:27:11.120 generally is considered immoral right what do you mean by god like god gave us the permission to go
03:27:18.940 have kids because it was like he kind of knew it was actually he gave you a command to go have kids
03:27:23.780 not a command yes he did in genesis yes you can yes is breathing air selfish
03:27:29.240 i guess so when you think about it because when we breathe in air you think like i'm thinking
03:27:37.280 logically right now okay selfish i'm not saying you're breathing my air or a good thing yeah when 0.53
03:27:42.480 i breathe in the air when you know like logic exhale you're disgusting co2 logic yes exactly 0.90
03:27:48.340 now i have my co2 and now you guys have less oxygen that you're technically selfish but 0.95
03:27:53.700 plants have more carbon it's very selfish that your droplets are taking up my like
03:28:01.540 coming around me and touching me but that's exactly my point like i'm not saying you're
03:28:06.700 like a horrible it's selfish that you want to have kids yeah but there's a judgment there's
03:28:11.040 a judgment there when you're referring to people as selfish okay how do you really quick how do
03:28:15.320 you define selfish what does that mean doing something for you people have kids for this
03:28:20.620 Wait, wait, wait, okay.
03:28:23.340 Not wanting children is selfish. 1.00
03:28:25.760 You are also fucking retorted. 0.99
03:28:27.980 So with that in mind, please do not reproduce so your mentality and lineage ceases. 0.99
03:28:33.880 Hang on.
03:28:34.840 That purpose or perfectly encapsulates the duality of my decision here because I can't quite make up my mind. 1.00
03:28:43.000 I'm like, on the one hand, retards have a duty to reproduce. 1.00
03:28:48.120 But on the other hand, I don't want retards to reproduce. 1.00
03:28:52.200 So I'm stuck, Brian, in this limbo. 1.00
03:28:56.020 And I don't know.
03:28:57.100 I've gone back and forth on this.
03:28:58.960 It's like liberals.
03:28:59.780 Like a hundred times.
03:29:00.900 And then my wife is like, no, honey, you're wrong about that.
03:29:03.220 And then we start talking.
03:29:04.120 She's like, you're kind of right.
03:29:06.620 I think she's on the fence.
03:29:08.140 I don't know how to reconcile this.
03:29:09.980 It's hard.
03:29:10.860 Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
03:29:12.600 Just to finish off on the definition of selfish.
03:29:14.980 So I just Googled it.
03:29:15.840 um so i think you have half a definition there someone who cares only about their own needs
03:29:22.380 advantage or pleasure without thinking about other people okay i mean okay even using that
03:29:29.460 definition um if you have children they're they're typically i think it's fair to say there's an
03:29:35.420 assumption that you're going to care for those children which would not i don't think that's
03:29:40.660 particularly selfish because they're your children are external to you but you're not thinking about
03:29:45.260 whether your kids wanted to be born or not.
03:29:46.600 Wait a second.
03:29:47.720 I've got the perfect...
03:29:49.140 Hang on.
03:29:49.920 I think I got the perfect thing.
03:29:53.220 It's not...
03:29:54.700 Okay, so for you,
03:29:56.620 if I were to give you the scenario, though,
03:29:58.600 where you could get paid $100,000
03:30:00.320 to have a child
03:30:01.820 that another couple really wanted
03:30:04.820 that they would take great care of
03:30:06.780 in a place which was
03:30:08.400 environmentally 100% stable,
03:30:12.480 would you do it? 0.51
03:30:13.640 I think if a couple is infertile, they should adopt, 100%.
03:30:17.720 I do not believe in artificial insemination.
03:30:20.900 I don't think it's right.
03:30:23.660 Do you know that all infants, all babies get adopted?
03:30:30.000 All of them.
03:30:31.120 What do you mean? 0.95
03:30:31.840 All babies get adopted.
03:30:33.380 Oh, yeah, you're right.
03:30:34.000 All of them.
03:30:35.200 Yeah, it's true.
03:30:36.260 Go look it up.
03:30:36.660 What are you referring to, like under six months old?
03:30:38.740 Is that what you mean?
03:30:39.880 Like newborn, yeah, all babies.
03:30:41.860 Like newborn.
03:30:42.360 no no i think it's i don't remember what the cutoff is but it's 100% adoption rate in fact
03:30:48.100 there's a huge waiting list and that's within the u.s huge waiting list of people born in the u.s
03:30:53.780 i'm just curious even across hang on hang on hang on but there's a huge waiting list for them
03:30:58.500 yeah huge yeah and so the thing is is like wouldn't you be kind of doing the most unselfish
03:31:05.640 thing possible by giving your womb to a couple who couldn't actually have children and then
03:31:12.000 that way they get bumped up in the waiting list so they could have a child they need to have their
03:31:16.620 own child why can't they adopt somebody else's well so i mean i think the term of selfishness 0.87
03:31:21.980 here is like those the woman would give anything to be able to have the child and can't so you're
03:31:28.540 being selfless by like donating your womb right for that couple yeah i would yeah i guess that
03:31:34.920 would be the selfless thing like surrogacy huh surrogacy yeah yeah yeah all right uh let's move
03:31:42.960 it on here um finishing up with your notes um i guess before we go on to this going around the
03:31:50.860 table actually i don't think we need to go around the table on this but you in the previous episode
03:31:56.680 said that um so this was i think you came on around the you know around when the charlie kirk
03:32:07.160 the one-year thing of charlie kirk you said that you don't think you should break up with someone
03:32:12.720 for making a for making a tick tock mocking the assassination of someone in this case charlie
03:32:20.900 kirk you said it's just a tick tock it's not that deep have you ever been in love
03:32:27.100 uh yeah i'm happy to engage you sure yes i've been in love i've i've been in love with uh i don't
03:32:36.020 know three women okay so personally the way i love that is not something worth leaving my man for
03:32:46.440 okay but now you're adding an additional qualifier when when did i ever grant that you have to be in
03:32:54.320 if you're in a relationship you're in love with the person i guess when you make these scenarios
03:32:58.600 i'm thinking about the relationship sure so okay it can be all the way from you've been
03:33:02.960 dating for a month or two where i i mean some people are already fucking love bombing each
03:33:08.560 other i guess but um or it could be all the way to yeah they're in they've been dating for a year
03:33:15.340 and they love each other. So it's not necessarily so much the individualized joke. It's the
03:33:22.520 sentiment. So here's a woman who is so lacking in humanity that she views, um, this is her view 0.99
03:33:32.260 of assassinations. It's not a serious matter. She's just kind of like thinks it's funny. 0.84
03:33:38.720 She's okay with political assassinations.
03:33:41.640 So, yeah.
03:33:44.480 I think that's completely legitimate.
03:33:47.540 Whether you're a man or a woman, if you're a girlfriend dating a guy and he's making jokes that you find, you know, someone was killed and he's making dark jokes or whatever.
03:34:01.320 And you're like, wow, that's not cool.
03:34:03.000 I think that's fine to break up with them.
03:34:04.800 If I wasn't in love, maybe then.
03:34:06.900 okay but you're in you're in love with them i'm in love so i i just don't see that as
03:34:11.220 so you that big enough of an issue to end okay i don't necessarily think it's breakup worthy
03:34:19.100 but i do think it is kind of concerning in most not even most cases all cases of like murder
03:34:25.160 assassination or whatever it is no matter what the political association is no matter like who
03:34:30.200 does i'd say like if it's a wrongful murder then like yeah i think it's it's overall wrong but
03:34:35.020 obviously i don't think it's breakup worthy i think maybe like actual talks are had or maybe
03:34:40.240 boundaries like hey like that made me uncomfortable don't talk like that or that i don't think that's
03:34:44.220 a right viewpoint yeah but it's just like they're they're internally who they are as a person
03:34:50.280 they're just bad people like so you can tell them hey don't say this thing like if somebody is a
03:34:56.320 um say like a a racist or something yeah and like maybe you don't care a lot of people 0.99
03:35:02.360 like really wouldn't care um but just telling them hey just don't say that shit around me 0.91
03:35:08.380 but i'm fine with you being a racist yeah so like in this case it's it's a bit unclear so in 0.98
03:35:13.560 in this case you would date somebody who's okay with political violence
03:35:16.700 maybe they wouldn't actually commit political violence but they're like yeah um if you think 0.97
03:35:24.380 that um that uh trans women uh are women then you should die for that and they're like you're okay 0.95
03:35:33.280 with that i think that it would become a factor into like um analyzing if i want to continue 0.99
03:35:44.140 dating this person but it wouldn't be like the one deciding factor it would be it would be like
03:35:49.480 added and then if there was another list of red flags then it would be in that list you know
03:35:54.040 Let's go around the table on this. Do you think someone who is okay with political assassinations, they wouldn't ever assassinate somebody, but they're okay with political violence, political assassinations, and they would make very distasteful public comments.
03:36:12.260 um do you think it's okay well two questions do you think it's okay to do that do those things
03:36:18.940 and then two would you date somebody who i suppose is um okay with those things starting with you
03:36:25.020 um no but in a way like no because you shouldn't break up with them over that maybe you could talk
03:36:35.040 to them lay down your boundaries be like that's not okay and see if they repeat that repeat what
03:36:41.340 they did and see if they actually
03:36:43.300 care and they'll change you know
03:36:44.780 you can't just be like I'm gonna break up with you then how are they gonna
03:36:47.340 learn yeah but I mean their their spirit 0.99
03:36:49.480 is fucking rotten so 1.00
03:36:51.160 it's basically like a pedophile 1.00
03:36:53.120 um like 0.78
03:36:55.040 you can't have a conversation with a pedophile 0.95
03:36:57.560 and be like you need to like
03:36:58.820 and try to change them they're just 0.99
03:37:01.320 fucking rotten to the core this 0.99
03:37:03.340 is not a person I think you should date 1.00
03:37:05.180 your thoughts I gave you my
03:37:07.340 thoughts already no well
03:37:08.560 well I guess it would be
03:37:11.140 Okay, do you think it's okay?
03:37:12.020 Part of the list of deciding factors.
03:37:13.160 Okay, what do you think?
03:37:14.520 I just want to make sure I understand your question.
03:37:16.280 So you're saying that if he is okay with violence, political violence, assassinations,
03:37:23.300 he wouldn't do it, but he's okay with it?
03:37:25.260 No, I think that tells of your character.
03:37:27.500 Okay, what do you think?
03:37:28.480 It depends on who's being assassinated.
03:37:31.060 If they're a really bad guy, then it's fine.
03:37:34.060 Okay, well, in this case, what are your political leanings?
03:37:38.320 I guess I have some right-wing and some left-wing takes.
03:37:41.760 So altogether centrist.
03:37:43.020 Centrist, moderate.
03:37:44.360 Okay, well, do you think Charlie Kirk warranted assassination?
03:37:47.660 No, absolutely not.
03:37:48.500 Okay, so then, like, how about, what would be, like, a historical figure that you feel would warrant assassination?
03:38:00.800 King Charles of England during the Civil War probably should have been slimed.
03:38:06.260 He was not cooperating.
03:38:08.300 He was, it was a Civil War.
03:38:09.880 wait but we were hold on but we were at war are you talking wait it's okay to assassinate
03:38:16.600 hold on wait during the civil war or the revolutionary war the civil war in england
03:38:21.360 oh wait the civil war in england yeah you know yeah it was bad oh king henry the uh
03:38:29.200 charles wait henry was like 14 wait cromwell during king henry the eighth no they were like
03:38:35.760 Okay, yeah, I'm getting my Cromwells mixed up.
03:38:40.060 He was from a prominent family, so I'm sure there were other Cromwells, but...
03:38:43.880 I agree with you. It's like with Hitler, like, I'm sorry. 1.00
03:38:47.640 That's an assassination that should be allowed. 0.98
03:38:52.820 The Civil War. 0.98
03:38:55.660 Usually when people use the term Civil War, they're referencing the American Civil War.
03:39:01.760 Oh, I thought I said English, but maybe I missed that part.
03:39:04.720 That's just the event that I know most about
03:39:07.280 And like Iran for Khomeini
03:39:09.040 The US
03:39:10.300 Because he was deemed he's corrupt
03:39:13.200 Would you repeat the question I'm so sorry
03:39:15.100 It's okay I guess I'll just skip it
03:39:17.400 Yeah it was just
03:39:20.180 Do you think it's okay for someone to break up with somebody
03:39:23.540 Because of their views surrounding
03:39:24.860 Say their distasteful
03:39:27.620 Views surrounding the acceptability
03:39:29.740 Of political assassination
03:39:31.580 And
03:39:33.620 yeah I mean yeah I would say it's okay
03:39:36.020 yeah okay
03:39:37.060 but not
03:39:41.160 just a TikTok so you would
03:39:44.000 think like if I chose you
03:39:46.020 might say Brian well of course you're free to do it
03:39:47.960 but if I were to dump my girlfriend because she was 1.00
03:39:50.040 like yeah sweet
03:39:51.620 well I guess that would be a political
03:39:54.000 differentiation assume I'm like 1.00
03:39:55.920 a fucking retarded leftist for a second 1.00
03:39:58.000 and I was dating like a 1.00
03:39:59.420 septum nose piercing having like 0.99
03:40:01.840 pink haired psycho
03:40:03.240 um um and i wait hold on where was i going with this uh i don't know where i was going with this 0.98
03:40:14.360 um would it be wrong for me to break up with my girlfriend if i was in love with her though
03:40:18.160 over like a political with her i think that'd be kind of weird over like a pretty serious thing
03:40:23.880 like this well it's different for you because if we're talking about charlie kirk you know
03:40:28.920 him personally you knew him uh to a degree sure yeah so i've had him on the show yeah it's a
03:40:33.560 little bit different well i mean even if i hadn't known him though i'm so okay
03:40:41.300 what about what about when people were posting like george floyd memes would it be the same
03:40:49.840 situation for you um would you be like you're that wasn't an assassination that was a wrongful
03:40:56.080 murder charlie kirk is not a politician either well he speaks i mean that's a political figure
03:41:02.440 to an extent i mean i would just answer as follows um i think someone who was and the two scenarios
03:41:08.680 are different but um i think people who are making distasteful come on man oh boy please be on like 0.99
03:41:18.240 you got to be on the computer um what the fuck 0.99
03:41:21.060 I think people who are making distasteful 0.98
03:41:25.340 like I don't have a double standard here
03:41:26.900 like oh it's only bad if they do it to my side
03:41:29.780 I think people who are like if they're making distasteful
03:41:32.580 like vulgar distasteful jokes about George Floyd
03:41:36.220 I would also object to that
03:41:37.440 and so I'd find that distasteful
03:41:40.800 or if like I don't know
03:41:43.060 if Hassan Piker was assassinated
03:41:45.220 I don't like that guy
03:41:47.100 and people are like making jokes about it or something
03:41:50.340 that would be really vile and disgusting and i wouldn't want people doing that even though i
03:41:56.100 disagree with him politically but what about like hitler jokes uh well i mean so first off we were 0.86
03:42:03.360 at war with hitler so the goal was to kill hitler okay so like are you talking like baby hitler
03:42:09.460 well then now we're getting into like a philosophical realm um but if if you hold on 0.96
03:42:16.860 If you're the commander in chief of the belligerent, like of the belligerent opposing army, you can definitely kill the leader of the opposing army by any means.
03:42:28.640 So during wartime, don't see any issue assassinating Hitler. 0.53
03:42:34.200 That's totally within the purview of when nations are at war.
03:42:40.160 um would you give so say you're in love with this girlfriend she posts a charlie kirk meme
03:42:49.080 yeah would you give her a second chance would you be like hey like this is like i don't like this 0.99
03:42:55.100 shit i don't know she'd have to pay me money or something really a fucking unblock fee i'd charge 0.99
03:43:00.500 her an unblock fee and uh i don't know she'd have to do some she'd have to like do some serious 1.00
03:43:07.320 yard work like she already has to do yard work but like she's got a i don't know she needs a 1.00
03:43:13.720 severe huge labia i mean even then i'd be like yeah i mean it's just such a misalignment in values 0.99
03:43:21.180 that i what if she was like really really hot and like really traditional and like perfect in
03:43:28.680 every way but like she just had this one hang up right that she what that she about charlie
03:43:33.820 like she just didn't like him and she was making distasteful yeah but that's her only flaw and
03:43:40.060 she's otherwise like completely woman of your dreams perfect and you're in love with her and
03:43:44.200 you're in love with her yeah um there might be a bit more leeway than i suppose um it depends how
03:43:51.680 like egregious it depends how egregious like i don't expect perfection from from people um you're
03:43:57.940 going to get someone who fully agrees with you on 100 everything um but uh yeah um i'm just curious
03:44:06.660 because you said you know you kind of feel the same if it is distasteful in regard to like a
03:44:11.140 george floyd meme yeah so if that was the case that happened would you provide a second chance
03:44:16.640 would your reaction be the same or different what uh like if instead of it being about charlie kirk
03:44:22.820 which is someone who you were politically aligned with, am I correct? In that case,
03:44:27.900 would you also feel the same way if that was your partner doing, you know, making very tasteless
03:44:33.300 jokes about the death of George Floyd? I think there's a baseline level of distastefulness,
03:44:38.820 but I think we're always going to, like, for example, if somebody murders your parents,
03:44:42.840 that's going to have a more pronounced impact on you than if somebody like murders someone you
03:44:48.580 don't know um you can still be like it's distasteful to make jokes about about it but one's
03:44:54.440 going to affect like i'm just being honest one's going to have a more profound impact or effect
03:44:59.140 effect on you so like a woman who made a george floyd joke uh about his death versus if she joked
03:45:05.700 about my parents dying that's obviously like uh i i think almost everyone would agree with me
03:45:12.340 um if you're going to be disrespectful towards one's parents that's like a another level of
03:45:17.600 um that's leaving ground uh that that's another level i suppose so so in this in the same way
03:45:26.400 taking it taking a step down from parents say this is a person you who you have a greater affinity to
03:45:33.120 then certainly it might have a more pronounced effect but they're still both distasteful
03:45:38.700 no i think that's fair and i think that's an honest answer um i guess in that situation if
03:45:43.440 it was something that you were did not have such a close affinity to um what would be your reaction
03:45:48.460 would you have a conversation about it would it lead to a potential breakup i'm just curious
03:45:52.840 yeah i'd probably give a bit more leeway just being honest okay i there might be a bit more
03:45:57.600 leeway you think you'd bring it up like if you saw the joke the distasteful joke bro whoever 0.99
03:46:02.880 i'm fucking dating should not be posting retarded shit on social media period she should she should 1.00
03:46:09.300 Well, I mean, even if she did some, she's posting retarded memes, period, she shouldn't be like, she's got to be locked down on social media. 1.00
03:46:18.800 But I mean, I'm a bit of a unique case given my own public platform. 1.00
03:46:24.100 I can understand that. 1.00
03:46:25.600 But yeah, like these women who are posting like 10 stories a day and they're like, first off, that's a red flag to begin with. 1.00
03:46:34.100 But here, let's continue on with, I want to try to blast through these notes. 0.85
03:46:39.300 You say nobody is really a good person.
03:46:42.960 When did I say that?
03:46:44.760 Somebody in my notes said that?
03:46:46.660 Is that, if I'm mistaken.
03:46:48.100 I think I said, oh yeah, I said everybody's a sinner.
03:46:50.860 Oh, everyone's a sinner? 0.97
03:46:51.740 Okay, well that's fine.
03:46:53.500 No one's perfect.
03:46:56.460 Yeah, no one is perfect. 1.00
03:46:58.740 You came down on me about my assessment of the averageness of women. 1.00
03:47:07.060 That one specific woman.
03:47:09.300 because i then asked you what what makes a woman high value and you basically listed off 0.99
03:47:17.520 all her characteristics did i yeah uh i don't think so but um first off that that isn't a
03:47:26.720 uh what's the term for uh not an entire list i listed off some things that make a woman
03:47:33.960 high value it wasn't well you described her pretty well you described yeah but you didn't
03:47:39.200 know this woman so i mean what here tell me back what are the things that i said that made 0.89
03:47:46.540 makes a woman high value well she um she has a a very professional job wasn't she like when did i 0.94
03:47:55.560 sit well my my frequent position on this podcast is a woman's job is fucking irrelevant and i don't 0.78
03:48:01.380 care and her job does not make her high value now there are some jobs that can make a woman low value 0.96
03:48:06.560 uh can we make sex work here's another here's some more things then you said that a woman needs 0.99
03:48:13.300 to be like peaceful like not nagging whatever she was the she was the calmest sweetest nicest woman
03:48:20.740 on this panel that night hold on but we have to differ we don't know this woman we have to like
03:48:28.260 we have to differentiate if you don't know her then you shouldn't call her average either
03:48:33.120 well yeah but i think it's safer to assume someone's average hold on wait wait wait um
03:48:39.300 when we're maybe a distinction we can make we're talking about um high value low value
03:48:46.680 we're not actually talking about the person's value like your value as a human being is low
03:48:54.480 or high the distinction is high value low value when it comes to the dating market i think she
03:49:01.400 was very high value in the dating market from what i could tell and if you're if your argument is
03:49:06.800 going to be we don't know enough then it should just be undecided and you shouldn't be calling
03:49:10.660 her average why should you assume that this is going to be a woman who is peaceful in a relationship
03:49:15.620 i believe she was do you recall her age late 20s early 30s the woman was a admitted druggie 1.00
03:49:23.000 She's done severe psychoactive drugs like she did ayahuasca in recent history. 0.99
03:49:29.740 I don't think women who do like mind-altering substances, from my perspective, you might disagree. 0.91
03:49:36.640 I don't think women who are doing mind-altering drugs like that are high value. 0.96
03:49:41.340 That's a major liability and a risk. 1.00
03:49:44.180 It can stoke and introduce schizophrenia. 0.97
03:49:46.780 People fucking lose their minds when they do the really severe drugs like that. 0.99
03:49:52.980 Yeah, that makes sense. 0.99
03:49:53.400 That's not high-value behavior.
03:49:55.040 Well, the idea here is for the dating market again.
03:49:59.000 Would you say in the dating market a woman who does a bunch of hallucinogenics versus a woman who doesn't, you would at least mark the woman who does hallucinogenics down further than the woman?
03:50:09.120 And if we're going to do like an itemized list of things which would make you more valuable when you're dating or, you know, or this type of thing, looking for a husband, those are going to be things that mark you down versus mark you up.
03:50:22.360 Would you at least agree?
03:50:23.160 Well, sure, yeah.
03:50:23.780 Drug use is going to be one of those things.
03:50:24.900 Is that at least preference?
03:50:27.380 Yeah.
03:50:27.780 Well, I would say that there's many preferences which are at least somewhat universally shared.
03:50:33.500 They're not going to be completely universally shared.
03:50:36.260 But, like, for instance, I'm old, and all of you are pretty young, except you, right?
03:50:41.100 No, I'm kidding.
03:50:41.840 I'm joking.
03:50:43.440 So I'm going to assume that my value for you guys dating is way lower than if I was 21 or 22, right?
03:50:51.460 That's going to increase my value, at least as far as looks and attractiveness and that type of thing.
03:50:56.940 Maybe that could be offset with tons of money and charisma or something like that.
03:51:01.040 Maybe that would bring my score up a little bit.
03:51:03.020 But wouldn't you agree that you kind of do look at things through almost an itemized list when you're looking at value when it comes to dating?
03:51:14.040 You're going to be looking for those traits, right?
03:51:15.540 Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that she said she only did ayahuasca that one time and it was at a controlled ceremonial setting. 0.72
03:51:23.520 She's not like a druggie.
03:51:25.060 She did it because she was searching for a spiritual awakening because she was lost spiritually.
03:51:29.680 and now ayahuasca isn't one hit of a joint that's a really intense experience that can 0.75
03:51:35.760 permanently fucking fry your brain what's i have not i've done mushrooms but yeah look it's not i 0.52
03:51:42.140 don't care if she's done it once like that's a major at least for me some people are more 1.00
03:51:47.480 open-minded women who like have history of drug use to that degree look you smoked a bit of weed 1.00
03:51:53.200 whatever maybe some other drugs i might give a bit of leeway uh serious psycho uh psychedelics 1.00
03:52:00.760 that's a pretty big issue i think that actually makes her more high value not high value women
03:52:08.180 can do no wrong i feel like when people do like a psychedelic like one or two times it actually 0.63
03:52:14.180 opens up their mind in a beneficial way or it fucking perma fries and what comes if it does 0.73
03:52:17.860 but did it from the christian from the christian view when you open up your mind with psychedelics 0.94
03:52:22.320 what comes in that's actually i mean this would be a whole nother conversation i don't know if we
03:52:29.580 want to go there i don't know what comes what comes in honestly i'm never taking shrooms again
03:52:34.480 because when i've taken shrooms like i have felt like there was no god and it was terrifying that's
03:52:41.920 because what comes in not the demons yeah demon right it opens your minds to the demon at least
03:52:47.760 from the christian view yeah you can shrug it but from the islamic view it's true oh i was shaking
03:52:51.740 my leg i was shrugging but is the islamic view is the same way right yes and i was not shrugging
03:52:56.460 the jinn or whatever you know whatever you call it's like this this woman almost every step along
03:53:02.880 the way she purports to be christian but does as much as she possibly can to advocate for
03:53:09.860 anti-christian positions i find that me in a way you just said you know what actually in a way a
03:53:16.820 woman who does ayahuasca she's opened her mind so actually maybe she's higher value but when you
03:53:22.240 opened your mind it made you think that there wasn't a god yeah and i'm never touching them
03:53:26.720 again right so that how would that make other women higher value i think some people have
03:53:33.600 awakenings on psychedelics yeah but if you're making it is not healthy if you're making an
03:53:39.640 assessment though on dating right you're not looking for outliers like for instance can you 0.92
03:53:45.240 and i agree that a man on death row could be a fucking saint he could be there for all the wrong 0.97
03:53:51.240 reasons the whole system was against him he got totally screwed over he's on death row for murdering 0.99
03:53:57.040 his entire family right that's possible right yeah but if are you going to go date a death row
03:54:04.080 inmate even knowing that's possible no you're going to use the average and so you're going to
03:54:09.160 say on average women who do psychedelics or women do psychedelics probably not the types I want
03:54:16.580 go ahead as someone with dating experience in the past from having a partner that was using
03:54:21.800 psychedelics and the first time it happened it was like oh it's just for fun it's just this
03:54:26.860 it's not even necessarily like a one-time thing it literally spreads like it's it spreads like
03:54:31.640 wild like wildfire
03:54:33.320 black sheep culture fitness
03:54:37.700 donated two hundred dollars and one
03:54:39.840 cent persia and mcdonald's 1.00
03:54:42.120 are two of the most impressive women 1.00
03:54:43.760 on the show to date kudos 0.67
03:54:45.720 to you too looking forward
03:54:47.920 to an aw mcd's debate
03:54:49.820 aw you and fuentes
03:54:52.000 are the voice of young white
03:54:53.960 christian men well she should do a debate
03:54:55.820 with rachel wilson that would be
03:54:57.620 that would be interesting 1.00
03:54:58.800 go ahead continue continue yeah she's an excellent anti-feminist but i have literally watched a
03:55:04.540 person that i was with destroy his like entire life withdrawals like i watched this man go insane
03:55:11.060 and the fact that i think some people can almost just be like oh one time just for fun this this
03:55:15.700 and that that says more about their character than anything because why do you need to try that
03:55:19.860 it doesn't open your mind it lets bad things in why would you want to even have a chance of that
03:55:24.480 like it's just I think overall just go ahead I think that regardless of like the actual impacts
03:55:30.940 of that trip it's sort of the logic that goes into or like the type of person who would choose
03:55:34.900 to do ayahuasca even if it's for like opening their mind or something like that that means
03:55:38.680 there's like some sort of big gaping hole in their life or some issue they're trying to fix
03:55:42.100 that's so profound that they resort to ayahuasca I think that's just like a red flag always even
03:55:47.460 if they're a good person overall well put what do you think okay I don't know what ayahuasca is
03:55:52.880 but it sounds crazy, and it seems like a bad idea.
03:55:56.020 You know what acid is?
03:55:57.360 Yes.
03:55:57.840 It's like that.
03:55:58.660 Oh, like more extreme?
03:56:01.040 I don't know if it's more extreme, but you just put it in the category of.
03:56:04.340 Oh, okay.
03:56:04.680 But, like, with shrooms, I think, like, even psychedelics, they are, like,
03:56:08.860 but shrooms specifically aren't bad, but acid I'm very much against.
03:56:13.640 How are shrooms not bad?
03:56:14.900 Because, like, I think if you have the bipolar gene or things like that
03:56:18.300 and you are prone to having a psychosis episode,
03:56:20.920 So you shouldn't even be touching anything like that.
03:56:23.360 Yeah, but you shouldn't be touching anything like that anyway.
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03:56:49.040 Okay, thank you for that.
03:56:49.980 How do I debate you into getting an air conditioner in here?
03:56:53.900 Well, you know, it's been an unusually – that's why it's been unusually warm summer and fall.
03:57:01.380 But today especially, like I opened my door.
03:57:03.780 It's extra brutal, dude.
03:57:04.760 It was 100 degrees at my other place on the outside thermometer.
03:57:13.260 And, yeah, unfortunately it fell on a Sunday. 0.99
03:57:17.020 We had a heat wave, and I had a fucking power outage too. 0.93
03:57:19.660 anyways um okay so let's do oh you had one thing i think you're raising your hand yeah i think like 0.97
03:57:27.240 since she took she took psychedelics one time and she's a christian now we know she's not going to
03:57:33.140 do it again and we know that she hasn't i'm pretty sure she hasn't gone into psychosis from that one
03:57:39.120 time i don't think that one time lowers her value uh well hold on what you don't think it lowers her
03:57:45.320 value. But do you think it would be wrong, even for a Christian man who's interested
03:57:48.880 in dating a so-called Christian woman, that it would be somehow contrary to Christianity
03:57:54.060 for a man to be discerning and not want to date her, even though this was something in her past?
03:57:59.480 Yeah, because one of the big things about Christianity is forgiveness.
03:58:03.880 Wait, wait, hold on.
03:58:04.560 Especially when somebody has been born again and changing their whole path of life.
03:58:08.080 So hold on. I got one thing on this, and I think Andrew wants to jump in. So if you've been a 0.99
03:58:14.420 sinner you've sinned uh you were a sex worker you've done drugs you were an addict you uh did 0.58
03:58:21.220 crime whatever it is you can be saved by christ men do not need to then disregard a woman's baggage
03:58:29.880 and date her and or marry her these are compatible not in every scenario no like i
03:58:35.460 wouldn't date somebody who has a high body count i wouldn't wait but the shroom thing
03:58:40.100 And then you're proving my point.
03:58:41.000 It's just so minor.
03:58:41.400 Right.
03:58:42.180 Right.
03:58:42.860 You're proving it.
03:58:43.340 It's just experimenting.
03:58:45.500 Shroom thing.
03:58:46.360 So to someone who doesn't do drugs, you think you one time did ayahuasca, maybe that is a deal breaker for them.
03:58:56.100 It doesn't make sense to me because it doesn't affect her now and she's totally open.
03:58:59.820 Whoa, wait.
03:59:00.080 How do you actually know that?
03:59:01.680 How do you actually know that it doesn't affect her?
03:59:04.400 How do you know it does?
03:59:05.020 Trust, I guess.
03:59:06.160 No, no, no.
03:59:06.720 Wait, wait.
03:59:07.040 Hold on.
03:59:07.340 You have to build a relationship on trust.
03:59:08.020 But so the drug could have fried her brain in some way that might not even be known to her.
03:59:14.820 And it may or may not somehow manifest in some way.
03:59:17.860 But even setting aside, assume it had zero impact on her, which I think is unlikely.
03:59:22.980 The action itself can be assessed and judged by the man.
03:59:29.500 Sure.
03:59:30.620 That's his free will.
03:59:31.820 Bro, you wouldn't date a guy who has a high body count.
03:59:34.840 I wouldn't because that's gross. 0.96
03:59:36.640 Okay, doing drugs is gross.
03:59:37.860 But it's been proven that when somebody has sex with multiple people, it changes their viewpoints on sex.
03:59:46.000 Wait, wait, wait.
03:59:46.540 What drugs do?
03:59:47.160 Doing drugs changes you more than having sex. 1.00
03:59:50.940 Yeah, you've been doing drugs for a long time, but she literally did this one drug one time.
03:59:54.340 What's the body count that's the threshold for you? 0.90
03:59:56.520 Oh, my God.
03:59:57.260 One.
03:59:57.700 Okay, then that's the exact threshold he has for you doing drugs.
04:00:00.800 Perfect.
04:00:01.300 As I would agree that...
04:00:02.440 Love that.
04:00:03.040 That was well put.
04:00:03.640 As I would agree that forgiveness is a big part of it.
04:00:07.660 I do think you're allowed to have a preference with someone's past.
04:00:10.560 Of course.
04:00:11.040 I 100% agree with that.
04:00:12.780 Even if they've changed, they gave their life to Christ, that's still a preference.
04:00:16.100 People are allowed to have body counts, whatever it is.
04:00:18.060 It's funny.
04:00:18.640 It's like my wife, very practical woman.
04:00:21.940 She had kids before I went into the marriage.
04:00:26.040 She was actually the one who pointed this out to me, right?
04:00:29.800 So I'm in my early 20s at this time.
04:00:32.060 And she points out to me.
04:00:33.000 She's like, listen, having children going into the dating market, she didn't use that
04:00:38.940 verbiage, but that's what she's saying, right?
04:00:41.080 Of course, it's going to lower your value in the dating market.
04:00:43.900 Did that lower her value as a person? 0.99
04:00:46.020 Does that make her a less good person? 0.74
04:00:47.400 Does that make her terrible? 0.69
04:00:48.420 Does that make her awful?
04:00:49.400 Does that make, no, of course not. 0.87
04:00:51.260 It's just going to lower value in this market because if there's preferences against that,
04:00:57.820 which more people are going to have preferences against it than for, then they're going to
04:01:01.940 seek you less than those other preferences, right? That's all that's meant by high value,
04:01:06.100 low value. And I think what happens is a lot of times when we talk about this,
04:01:10.880 women hear low value as you as a human being are fucking awful. It's like, that's not what low 0.99
04:01:16.660 value or high value means. It's always in reference to what your value would be like a commodity on
04:01:22.740 a market, right? If you had a commodity on a market that more people are seeking, is it more
04:01:27.580 less valuable if more people are seeking a commodity in a market it's more valuable right
04:01:33.980 yeah yeah so then it's if it's the case that you have less baggage are more people going to seek
04:01:40.540 you then that would make more value that's all that that has ever meant all you mean by it is
04:01:47.280 increasing your dating that's all listen that's all myron means by it that's all the manosphere 0.98
04:01:53.220 has ever meant by it and it's in it's constantly demonized by moralizing dumb feminists who want 1.00
04:02:00.040 to pretend oh high value low value you're saying women are low value it's like no you fucking idiot 1.00
04:02:06.740 but they're what they're saying to you is on the dating market if you're seeking a mate right and 0.99
04:02:13.020 that doesn't even mean that the women who are the lower value on the dating market won't get a great
04:02:18.200 mate. It just means it's going to decrease their chances, right? No, I can completely agree with 0.99
04:02:23.200 that. And I'm actually happy that you made that distinction. But what I do want to point out is
04:02:27.660 when you hear the term low value woman, it's not associated with low value woman in dating.
04:02:33.100 It always is. That's the context. It always is. That is the context. But what I'm trying to say
04:02:39.200 is that when people hear this, they may not necessarily be tuned into modern dating podcasts
04:02:44.160 and these types of things.
04:02:45.260 So I don't think it's wild for people
04:02:47.000 to come to that misconception.
04:02:48.800 Well, listen, I'm going to give you some leeway
04:02:51.140 in an olive branch. 1.00
04:02:52.580 I understand that there's enough dumb feminists 1.00
04:02:55.780 who refuse to go get context 1.00
04:02:58.040 for the very clips they're watching 1.00
04:02:59.800 that they then become irate and stupid 0.99
04:03:02.980 and start blaming guys like Myron, guys like Brian 1.00
04:03:05.720 for saying the term high value, low value
04:03:08.660 in the context of dating.
04:03:10.580 And somehow that's an ontological claim.
04:03:12.460 You have less value as a human being than her because more men would desire you dating than her. 1.00
04:03:17.900 That's a fucking insane take. 1.00
04:03:20.420 And I think that that's an indictment on the dumb feminists for not doing their due diligence to learn what the context is of what's being said. 1.00
04:03:28.700 But men also complain about the verbiage of low value. 1.00
04:03:31.220 Dumbass feminist men who don't look at the fucking context. 1.00
04:03:34.820 I wouldn't agree that they're all feminists. 1.00
04:03:36.260 I think they can just be people who don't like degrading adjectives. 1.00
04:03:40.300 There's no degradation.
04:03:41.160 if you hear low value man
04:03:44.080 does that not sound like a degradation
04:03:45.620 what about context
04:03:47.100 no no no but I'm saying outside of context
04:03:48.940 then whose job is it to look at the context
04:03:51.100 no that's fine but I'm saying initially
04:03:52.920 I can agree with that it's a person's job to understand the context
04:03:55.500 of what they are talking about
04:03:56.320 so then how do you make indictments of these guys
04:03:59.060 who give that context
04:04:00.680 10,000 times around what they're talking about
04:04:03.560 and then you're confused so it's their fault
04:04:05.920 so I can acknowledge that
04:04:07.840 if you are going to speak on that
04:04:09.240 sure you should get context
04:04:10.320 However, can you also acknowledge...
04:04:12.100 Hang on, did you get context?
04:04:13.760 I didn't speak on it.
04:04:14.840 You never have spoken on the...
04:04:16.400 I actually do not like those words, typically low value and high value, so no, I have not.
04:04:19.300 Okay, but why not?
04:04:21.280 If it's in regards to the dating market, that makes sense.
04:04:24.380 Because I would rather say an increase or decrease in your options to maybe not offend people who don't have context.
04:04:28.860 So if you have more options, does that mean you're more valued?
04:04:32.520 In dating, yes.
04:04:33.460 I'm not disagreeing with your verbiage or your way of describing it.
04:04:39.320 That's fine.
04:04:40.320 Definitely forgot my point.
04:04:41.360 Yeah, and I mean, I always almost, at least now anyways, I honestly don't even typically
04:04:46.980 use high value, low value all that often.
04:04:51.200 But that is what's meant by it.
04:04:52.400 Well, it's often like it stemmed here from a conversation regarding average.
04:04:59.360 I don't really get into high value, low value.
04:05:01.300 I think it's a little cringe.
04:05:02.960 But when I'm speaking about someone having more or less value, just as Andrew's already
04:05:08.720 explained. So here's my perspective. Men and women have equal human value, have equal moral value,
04:05:16.100 have equal innate value. Of course. But when I'm talking about value, high value, low value,
04:05:25.600 high value, man, low value, whatever it is, right? This is just someone in the context of the dating
04:05:30.760 market, as Andrew's explained, who is essentially more or less valuable, desirable. For example,
04:05:37.520 I would argue that Jacob Elordi is more valuable on the dating marketplace than me.
04:05:44.980 Of course.
04:05:45.280 He's better looking.
04:05:45.940 He's richer.
04:05:46.440 He's got more money.
04:05:47.260 He's in better shape.
04:05:47.940 Let me just ask you this.
04:05:48.840 Is 20-year-old Brian more valuable to 20-year-old average woman than you now?
04:05:55.660 Yes.
04:05:56.300 Okay. 1.00
04:05:56.660 Certainly to 20-year-old women. 1.00
04:05:57.840 Okay. 0.99
04:05:58.100 So great.
04:05:58.680 So then you can actually use the same value assessment metric against yourself.
04:06:03.160 Absolutely.
04:06:03.600 And are you lowering your own ontological value?
04:06:06.200 No.
04:06:06.460 Of course not. 1.00
04:06:07.520 It's just stupid. 0.99
04:06:09.340 But it's just like, and so in that same way, like a woman who possesses certain characteristics or traits may be more valuable than another woman who has less desirable characteristics. 0.99
04:06:17.920 And you know who else makes all those assessments?
04:06:19.780 All of you guys.
04:06:20.740 Yep.
04:06:21.160 So how many of you look at the woman next to you and think she's really pretty? 0.97
04:06:25.160 Yes.
04:06:25.920 Oh, okay, great.
04:06:26.680 100%. 1.00
04:06:27.160 You think she's really pretty.
04:06:28.640 Beautiful.
04:06:29.120 Okay, so if you think she's really pretty, you're assessing that many men are going to value her, right?
04:06:36.680 Yeah.
04:06:37.260 Okay, great.
04:06:37.840 So then you're giving a value assessment.
04:06:39.780 That's all you're doing is giving a value assessment.
04:06:42.400 Can I go back to my point?
04:06:43.260 Yeah, sure.
04:06:44.220 So I just wanted, so I acknowledge, like, I get what you mean by it, and it makes sense in the context in which you speak of it.
04:06:49.760 But I just want you to acknowledge that without context, you could understand how somebody could think that would be a degrading term.
04:06:54.420 Whose job is it to get the context, though?
04:06:56.140 I answered that already.
04:06:57.180 Okay, then I'll answer you, too. 0.99
04:06:58.380 It is true that if a person is so fucking lazy and stupid and retarded that they refuse to get the context for the very things they're watching, they could come to the misguided conclusion because of their own dereliction of duty of coming to a false conclusion. 1.00
04:07:17.540 Yes, I agree with that. 1.00
04:07:18.520 No, what if they are going to get context, but at first glance?
04:07:22.140 Can you acknowledge that at first glance?
04:07:24.320 At first glance, that's what I'm saying.
04:07:26.020 Sure. It could be the case that if you hear it for the first time, that you could think that, but then it is your job to do what?
04:07:35.200 To get context. I agree with that. I just wanted us to get there.
04:07:37.580 But I would just say that about everything.
04:07:39.780 I'd be like, okay, can you agree with me that hearing about feminist values for the very first time could make it seem like they hate men a lot? 0.96
04:07:47.420 Yes.
04:07:47.980 Okay, well then, whose job is it to get the context?
04:07:50.080 No, that's fine. No, that's fine. I just wanted us to agree with feminist values.
04:07:53.380 Yeah, what do you have really quick, but I need to move things on.
04:07:57.340 I think there is a massive difference between what the influencers say
04:08:00.400 and what the effect is on society.
04:08:02.340 So even with newer influencers, you see that they internalize these ideas
04:08:06.200 not in the way that is, like, explicitly said,
04:08:08.920 but they interpret it to mean, well, women are just inherently lesser.
04:08:12.460 So as a very specific example. 0.99
04:08:14.980 What?
04:08:15.360 Some.
04:08:15.960 Yeah, well, like, for example, clavicular.
04:08:17.660 Yeah, but I'm not interested in defending.
04:08:19.000 We're not going to – I have my position.
04:08:20.880 Andrew has his position. 0.98
04:08:21.840 I'm not going to do a defense of what fucking 0.98
04:08:24.380 Clavicular says 0.96
04:08:26.140 Okay, but I'm saying that the way these ideas 0.85
04:08:28.320 Get interpreted is harmful to women 0.93
04:08:30.680 So do you agree with that?
04:08:31.580 Is harmful to what?
04:08:34.040 You're going to have to specify exactly what
04:08:36.000 So you just said you don't care about what Clavicular said
04:08:38.020 So can I bring the example then?
04:08:39.260 Sure 1.00
04:08:39.560 Yeah, he said women over 22 are worthless 1.00
04:08:41.920 Great 0.96
04:08:43.860 And he got that from Man is Fear content
04:08:47.140 I agree that that's harmful to men
04:08:48.220 That's also harmful to women 1.00
04:08:49.680 I agree it's harmful to men 1.00
04:08:51.420 How is it harmful to men? 0.99
04:08:52.740 For the same reasons harmful to women. 0.64
04:08:55.000 What do you mean?
04:08:55.660 He said women. 0.94
04:08:56.780 Specifically, you know why?
04:08:57.860 Because he says women after 22 are expired. 1.00
04:09:00.240 Andrew's literally agreeing with you. 1.00
04:09:02.180 Oh, like.
04:09:03.200 He's literally agreeing with you and you don't even understand.
04:09:05.720 No, because you're saying for men too and it's not the same for men.
04:09:08.360 So I don't understand.
04:09:08.940 He didn't say.
04:09:09.600 Oh, my God.
04:09:10.140 It's not harmful in the same way.
04:09:11.360 I didn't say.
04:09:12.260 It's literally agreeing with your.
04:09:14.040 I think she was focused on the specific thing that she said.
04:09:17.280 Listen, you're so eager to argue.
04:09:19.380 No.
04:09:19.600 Can you please clarify your point?
04:09:21.860 Sure.
04:09:22.380 Is it harmful to men too?
04:09:24.420 What is?
04:09:25.240 The fact that he thinks that every woman is worthless after 22,
04:09:28.880 and if some men internalize that,
04:09:30.480 they may not go for any woman that's over the age of 22,
04:09:33.920 so therefore it harms them.
04:09:35.280 It's way more harmful to women. 0.99
04:09:37.000 Can you answer the question that I fucking asked instead of diverting? 0.99
04:09:39.540 No, it's a loaded question. 0.99
04:09:41.240 There's nothing loaded.
04:09:42.480 Yes, because if I say yes.
04:09:43.760 Stop, stop, stop.
04:09:44.380 It can't be loaded
04:09:46.760 Because I'm not
04:09:48.620 Putting the conclusion
04:09:50.940 Into the question
04:09:52.580 So it's not loaded
04:09:53.620 So I'm asking you specifically
04:09:55.720 Is it harmful to men
04:09:58.120 Who hear they should not get a woman
04:10:00.860 After the age of 22 and therefore they don't 0.94
04:10:03.220 To hear that rhetoric or not
04:10:05.160 I want only an answer to that
04:10:07.300 I want only an answer to that
04:10:09.880 I'm not saying whether they can
04:10:12.660 If they're worthless
04:10:13.740 He says they're worthless 0.99
04:10:14.960 They're worthless as people 0.68
04:10:15.840 I grade it
04:10:16.620 Great
04:10:16.920 Even better 1.00
04:10:17.920 If he says women are worthless as people 1.00
04:10:20.180 At the 1.00
04:10:20.540 Past the age of 22 0.99
04:10:21.500 Let's not waste more time on this girl 0.99
04:10:22.980 Real quick 1.00
04:10:23.240 Real quick
04:10:24.520 And some men say
04:10:25.680 Oh I internalized that
04:10:27.720 That after 22 1.00
04:10:28.640 All women are worthless 1.00
04:10:29.640 So therefore 1.00
04:10:30.440 I don't date women over 22 0.99
04:10:31.900 And that reduces their options greatly
04:10:34.600 Does that hurt them?
04:10:35.860 I don't think
04:10:36.320 Answer the question I asked
04:10:37.580 Answer the question
04:10:38.240 Yes or no
04:10:38.860 Well it's not real
04:10:41.040 Yes or no
04:10:41.240 It's not real
04:10:41.760 Yes or no
04:10:42.520 It's not something that happens
04:10:43.280 the question yes or no answer the question can you answer the question then say no it's not
04:10:48.800 something then say no premise then there's no false premise yes there is because you're saying
04:10:53.120 that they do internalize it and i'm saying they don't say no say no it's not harmful to men do
04:10:59.640 you know what an if then statement is yes if they are harmed then that is wrong but they are not
04:11:04.640 harmed so the if is wrong then the answer would still be no okay but you're gonna take that and
04:11:09.040 edit it and cut it in a way that I'm like
04:11:10.700 that you own me or something. Can you just say
04:11:13.040 no? No, I'm not saying anything.
04:11:14.600 I wish you would do more of that.
04:11:17.060 I wish you would do more of that.
04:11:18.740 Do you think that porn is harmful to me? I wish you would do way more
04:11:21.080 of that not saying anything rather than
04:11:23.160 just not answering. That's
04:11:25.240 the clip. Do you think that
04:11:27.160 porn is harmful to me? That's what gets clipped.
04:11:29.980 It's a dumb question. 0.99
04:11:31.440 If it's a dumb question, you should have 1.00
04:11:33.120 answered it. I would have. No, I did answer it. 0.99
04:11:34.960 I answered it multiple times. Yeah, by saying
04:11:36.800 nothing. By not giving an answer.
04:11:39.040 If what you're saying is true, then yes, that harms them.
04:11:42.620 But it's not happening to them.
04:11:44.020 You're, like, argumentative for argument's sake.
04:11:47.200 That's what debate is.
04:11:48.520 Why do you teach debate?
04:11:49.440 That's argument for argument's sake.
04:11:50.660 Okay, I'm not here to...
04:11:51.760 I'm fine with it.
04:11:52.380 Wait, wait.
04:11:52.900 I'm not here...
04:11:53.140 I could do this all night.
04:11:54.300 No, no, but...
04:11:55.200 No, there's things to get through.
04:11:57.980 Sorry? 0.98
04:11:58.600 Bro, there's fucking, like... 0.99
04:12:00.680 There's, like, so many other topics we have to get to. 0.99
04:12:03.400 That's true.
04:12:04.120 I'm not... 0.95
04:12:04.680 Like, I'm not here to fucking put... 1.00
04:12:07.040 I'm not a fucking Hindu. 1.00
04:12:08.540 i'm not here to make a defense of fucking hinduism clavicular is his own fucking retard who has says 1.00
04:12:14.940 shit for rage bait and you want to introduce this thing that i haven't said or andrew hasn't said we 1.00
04:12:21.380 have limited time here we're not here to be do apologetics for fucking clavicular fuck that 1.00
04:12:27.160 idiot i don't want to talk about him we're not here to defend what another man said you said that 1.00
04:12:33.260 this kind of rhetoric is not harmful to women i'm saying it's indirectly did i say that like you 0.99
04:12:38.040 both are arguing that you know just because you're saying i never argued anything the onus 0.98
04:12:42.800 is on the viewers to interpret the message within a certain context read the fucking room you read 1.00
04:12:48.920 the fucking room you read the fucking room you're okay you're fucking obnoxious okay well then tell 1.00
04:12:54.180 andrew to stop talking to me because i'm just responding brian no shut the fuck up you're such 1.00
04:12:59.620 a fucking feminist you fucking i'm not a feminist yes you are so triggered your fucking in-group 1.00
04:13:05.340 bias is so fucking apparent it's so apparent yes it is because you are the person here that is 1.00
04:13:13.720 being rude she has been she has interrupted you tonight but it was not on purpose she has not 0.96
04:13:21.380 name called you she has she has raised her voice a little bit but she's not been name calling i've
04:13:25.340 made it clear we're not here to defend you happen to be a man and i'm upset with you for bro you but
04:13:32.180 For being rude, that doesn't mean that I'm a feminist.
04:13:36.380 You are a feminist, and so I'm pointing it out.
04:13:40.520 That doesn't mean that I'm against you just because you're a man. 0.96
04:13:43.880 You just happen to be a man, and you're being rude.
04:13:46.040 No, it means you have blinders.
04:13:47.180 I wish you were more respectful to the people that you asked to come here.
04:13:50.680 You have blinders on.
04:13:52.500 You can't see how pronounced your in-group bias is. 0.99
04:13:57.080 I don't even think, like, for a lot of women, 0.98
04:14:00.180 And this isn't just fucking random here. 0.99
04:14:05.040 This isn't random here. 1.00
04:14:06.660 Women have a massive in-group bias. 1.00
04:14:10.100 And it's called the sisterhood. 0.79
04:14:11.740 I would say that there's a malehood too, is there not?
04:14:13.600 No, actually, when they study this,
04:14:15.460 I wish there was more.
04:14:16.320 When there's a study, when they study this,
04:14:18.600 men have a slight out-group bias for women.
04:14:22.080 And women have a very strong in-group bias for women. 0.88
04:14:26.200 What about your whole fan base that literally hates women?
04:14:28.720 I can't reason with somebody who's just 0.85
04:14:31.060 Men will not admit that they hate women 1.00
04:14:34.080 But their actions will prove that they do
04:14:36.300 Stop, stop
04:14:36.840 Me having a fan base
04:14:39.060 Doesn't disprove anything I've just said
04:14:42.040 That it doesn't even make sense
04:14:44.260 Your response to me
04:14:45.660 I'm saying that they have a brotherhood 1.00
04:14:48.080 That's anti-women 1.00
04:14:49.340 The fact 1.00
04:14:49.960 Okay, great
04:14:52.200 I love that you brought that up
04:14:53.440 See, I love 1.00
04:14:54.300 Because a lot of women come on the podcast 1.00
04:14:55.840 And they hold 1.00
04:14:56.960 They hold back how they really feel.
04:14:59.800 Now we have something to work with. 1.00
04:15:02.280 Anti-women. 1.00
04:15:03.500 Explain to me how I, or what I espouse as anti-woman. 0.73
04:15:09.900 How having a spouse is anti-woman? 0.97
04:15:11.920 Oh my God.
04:15:12.980 Sorry, I'm using big words for you.
04:15:15.860 A spouse.
04:15:16.760 Okay.
04:15:17.240 She said banal.
04:15:18.020 That was impressive.
04:15:19.180 You do have a good vocabulary, by the way.
04:15:21.140 Thank you. 0.92
04:15:21.920 What do I say that is anti-woman?
04:15:25.700 I said your fan base is anti-woman, not you.
04:15:28.300 Where's your evidence for that? 1.00
04:15:30.100 The snarky-ass, nasty-ass comments they be making. 0.99
04:15:32.920 Wait, so if you say something snarky, that makes you anti-woman or anti-something? 0.99
04:15:37.840 No, but if the snarky comment is against women, then it...
04:15:42.080 Wait, do you mean against women in general?
04:15:44.640 So, okay, is being rude to a woman anti-woman?
04:15:50.040 No.
04:15:51.020 Okay, so you would need to establish then,
04:15:53.860 what is the generalized statement that somebody is making about women but again i do think you
04:15:58.840 actually do view me and or the podcast as anti-woman is that fair to say um i would i 0.98
04:16:05.360 would say that you do try to make women look stupid in your clips how do i make okay explain 0.94
04:16:10.320 that because like i i was looking at some of my some of the clips of myself and i noticed how you 0.99
04:16:16.860 clipped out points that i made that were agreeable to what you believe because you wanted me to seem
04:16:23.020 like this person that was totally against everything you said yeah so you're you're
04:16:26.840 first off that's completely false you're suggesting yeah you're suggesting now here 0.97
04:16:31.120 here's unethical clipping um say yes right now bro just fucking do it just say yes 0.94
04:16:39.160 i'm not gonna fucking clip you i'm trying to articulate a point yes before like you can say 0.99
04:16:44.400 Just fucking play along, bro. 0.99
04:16:46.300 Just say yes. 1.00
04:16:48.140 Sure. 1.00
04:16:50.300 You're a fucking idiot. 1.00
04:16:52.220 You think I'm, like, going to do something? 1.00
04:16:54.440 I'm literally just trying to articulate a point,
04:16:56.980 and you're unnecessarily holding up the podcast?
04:17:00.940 Allow me, like, be good faith and just play along.
04:17:07.860 What's the point of this? 1.00
04:17:11.420 Bro, these people are fucking idiots. 1.00
04:17:13.700 Because I feel like you are going to clip me on purpose. 1.00
04:17:16.120 No, I'm not going to clip you.
04:17:17.280 I'm trying to.
04:17:18.220 Well, he said he's not going to do it, so he won't do it legally.
04:17:21.080 So just say yes.
04:17:21.840 Imagine you did say yes.
04:17:23.700 This would be unethical clipping. 0.99
04:17:25.340 And then I would ask you right now, are you a pedophile?
04:17:27.940 And you say no. 0.97
04:17:28.800 If I were to snip the yes onto me asking if you're a pedophile, that would be what we're talking about here. 1.00
04:17:35.300 Words that come out of your mouth in a clip, that's not me making women look stupid. 1.00
04:17:41.460 that's you making yourself look stupid we explored some of the very stupid things that you said last 1.00
04:17:48.300 episode you still think you're you're so stubborn you still think it's selfish to have children 1.00
04:17:53.620 that's stupid is that me making you look stupid or are you just fucking stupid you hear my 1.00
04:17:59.480 definition of self being selfish is doing something for yourself yeah but i fucking 1.00
04:18:03.540 disagree i did i strongly about that i strongly yeah i think a judgment of selfishness can 1.00
04:18:09.980 certainly be uh like a negative assessment about of somebody so i think it's really fucking stupid 0.99
04:18:15.780 uh to say that it's selfish to have children those words came out of your mouth did i force 0.99
04:18:21.340 you to say that it's selfish you spontaneously said that it's selfish to have children so am 1.00
04:18:26.500 i making you look stupid or are you making yourself look stupid learn to take some 1.00
04:18:30.680 fucking accountability you know what maybe this is an anti-woman take maybe this is you know what 1.00
04:18:36.460 i'll give you i will deliver to you now on a silver platter that which you believe me to be 1.00
04:18:42.260 women have a failing and taking accountability you want to take accountability for everything 1.00
04:18:47.700 i said you want to put it on me that i make women look stupid how about uh women make themselves 1.00
04:18:54.060 look stupid how about you make yourself look stupid sure i make myself look stupid all the 1.00
04:18:59.560 time yeah but i'm not making women looks if if a woman says some dumb shit on the podcast 1.00
04:19:05.480 and that gets clipped. 1.00
04:19:07.440 Am I making them look stupid 1.00
04:19:08.760 or are they making themselves look stupid? 1.00
04:19:10.840 Answer the question. 1.00
04:19:12.620 Both. 1.00
04:19:14.140 How am I making her look...
04:19:16.640 I was watching one of the clips
04:19:18.420 that we were talking about submitting to a man.
04:19:20.840 I said, prior to saying
04:19:22.360 submission doesn't mean go make me a pizza right now.
04:19:25.000 I said that.
04:19:25.820 But before saying that, I said submission means
04:19:28.260 your husband would want you to move states.
04:19:30.560 You don't want to. 1.00
04:19:31.340 You would do that anyways.
04:19:32.580 You left that part out
04:19:33.640 because you knew it was agreeable to your fan base.
04:19:36.180 Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. 0.99
04:19:37.320 The podcast lady, how long was our fucking podcast? 1.00
04:19:40.860 Eight hours? 1.00
04:19:41.980 Ten.
04:19:42.680 Ten hours.
04:19:44.060 Shorts are usually a minute long.
04:19:47.280 We do the podcast every week.
04:19:48.780 I do four shorts a day.
04:19:49.900 That's four minutes.
04:19:51.240 So I have about 30 minutes per week that I can put into clips. 0.86
04:19:55.740 So do you want me to make a one-minute clip of every fucking ten hour of the entire ten hours? 0.96
04:20:03.100 that would be like hundreds of fucking clips that's such a lousy excuse because no it would 0.97
04:20:09.220 have been the clip would have been like you do realize that a clip uh uh by the way this isn't 0.98
04:20:15.840 like me just being a dickhead these platforms actually have restrictions on the length of the
04:20:20.840 clip that you can even put and by the way the entire unedited live stream is a bit available 0.51
04:20:25.920 for viewers you won't you won't get that in any other media like most other media they're going
04:20:31.900 to do post-production. They're going to edit it. The entire live, they're going to paywall it.
04:20:39.000 So yeah, this idea is completely ridiculous. Okay. That's what you think. Yeah. I mean, 0.85
04:20:45.960 it's a stupid trope that I'm making women look stupid. If I create a clip and a woman says 1.00
04:20:54.160 something dumb, that's not me making her look stupid. All right. What you got? Do you think 1.00
04:21:01.520 you have an incentive to present yourself better well or like worse than you came off
04:21:07.400 like are you going to pick clips that are favorable to you when you're picking these
04:21:12.460 clips or you're just going to be completely neutral or like what's your incentive here
04:21:15.720 uh i pick i mean it can be entertaining clips yeah so yeah so you're just talking about being
04:21:21.160 editorial yeah exactly and so where you draw the line between editorial and like making someone
04:21:27.540 look stupid i think is a really thin line and i think you do cross it sometimes where you pick
04:21:32.840 content you pick like it being entertaining you pick making yourself look good over the other 0.99
04:21:38.500 person over representing them accurately because you have no incentive to represent them accurately
04:21:42.040 yeah but i mean this is just like um this is essentially just what people do yeah right so
04:21:48.320 like so i should make myself look worse is what you're saying and by the way i actually don't
04:21:53.740 have any apprehension to releasing clips where i don't always look good that's true well i've 0.93
04:21:58.800 released clips where i've said some dumb shit or like release clips where i have okay well that's
04:22:04.020 possible but i'm making a descriptive claim that generally speaking you would have a preference 0.99
04:22:08.840 for making yourself look good and the other person maybe you look kind of dumb maybe you look like
04:22:12.740 they don't know what they're saying to make it go viral yeah but in totality that wouldn't complete 0.89
04:22:17.520 her argument can i ask you a question yes let's pretend for a second that you were in charge of
04:22:21.760 the podcast and you said things every now and again which made you look bad would you release
04:22:27.400 those no and that's so hang on guys hang on would you release though your opposition saying the 0.99
04:22:33.880 dumbest shit possible with full context i would probably do the same thing that you guys are 0.96
04:22:37.920 doing because you have a very successful podcast but what do you mean us it's his or oh i'm sorry 0.99
04:22:42.400 i like associate with both of you i'm just a guest my bad um but yeah i think that just because i
04:22:48.680 would do the same thing as like uh you would do that doesn't mean that it's not like problematic
04:22:54.100 or it doesn't hurt the people involved and you know that's you know one of the issues of this
04:22:58.660 like industry is you're preying on sort of taking things out of context and like using people um
04:23:04.380 you know people's words against them especially when people who go on this podcast are for the
04:23:08.040 most part not like expert level debaters or anything like that so it's pretty easy for you
04:23:11.740 to take like an introductory statement where they kind of summarize their position for example
04:23:15.600 parents are selfish that sounds a certain way but like when you get more into it it makes like a
04:23:21.460 lot more sense and you not including that is like predatory clipping predatory that's i'm sorry i
04:23:27.120 forget the word that you used like i didn't i thought that was the correct term uh i thought
04:23:32.460 you said you called it that yeah but i mean this is essentially i somewhat reject your framing but
04:23:38.780 to this pretty much anybody who's producing content don't they pick the best moments
04:23:45.260 Exactly. Like if you're a, say you're a Democrat or you're a Republican and you were participating in a debate or something, are you going to release, like you're going to release the moments that make yourself look good and make your opponent look bad? Exactly. Right. So you're going to release the part where she says parents having kids is selfish, make her seem stupid because it benefits you. Yeah, but I disagree with your framing there. I don't make her seem stupid. She's saying something stupid and I'm simply distributing it and presenting it.
04:24:13.240 You have a secondary problem with your argument, too, which is that if a woman comes off really good on the podcast, they're clipped extremely favorably, actually. 0.99
04:24:23.940 Why?
04:24:24.560 Why would that be?
04:24:25.320 Because it gets views.
04:24:26.340 Right.
04:24:26.780 So then how come when I said something agreeable, I was left out?
04:24:29.220 Just chill for five seconds. 1.00
04:24:30.840 Holy shit. 0.99
04:24:31.320 I've been chilling. 0.99
04:24:32.080 Well, chill a little bit more, okay?
04:24:34.000 Calm down.
04:24:35.180 Why would that be?
04:24:36.620 Because it gets a lot more views, right? 1.00
04:24:38.520 If a woman comes off really good. 1.00
04:24:40.180 Yeah.
04:24:40.380 So then you're negating your own argument because it would be the case that if more women came off good, it would be the case that they would get clipped much more favorably. 1.00
04:24:47.900 Hang on.
04:24:48.460 By your own admission, that's what just happened, right?
04:24:50.860 I think most men.
04:24:51.560 Can you just answer first and then give me the qualifier?
04:24:55.340 I did.
04:24:55.780 So hang on.
04:24:56.920 So I just want to make sure so I can hear it.
04:24:58.520 I'm going to ask again.
04:24:59.480 Okay. 1.00
04:25:00.340 You negated your own position by just stating, hey, if it was the case that more women came off good, they would get clipped in a lot better light. 0.98
04:25:09.080 Right? 0.99
04:25:09.680 Right?
04:25:10.020 Because that would get more views. 1.00
04:25:11.580 So then by your logic, most women must not really come off that well. 1.00
04:25:15.640 Right? 1.00
04:25:16.600 Most people don't come off well.
04:25:18.200 Okay, okay, great. 1.00
04:25:19.320 But we're talking about a specific subset of those people called women. 1.00
04:25:22.820 So most women must not come off very well. 0.99
04:25:25.680 Right? 1.00
04:25:26.580 And most men too.
04:25:27.520 Okay, so can you answer the question I asked?
04:25:29.400 No.
04:25:29.940 No.
04:25:30.240 Because for reasons I explained.
04:25:32.200 I didn't use to answer any questions ever.
04:25:36.080 No, I did answer it.
04:25:37.320 If you really want the answer, it's right in front of you.
04:25:39.780 You think critically about it.
04:25:41.080 If I asked you loaded questions, I would be way more sympathetic to the position that you needed to answer in a more nuanced way.
04:25:48.240 I specifically make sure they're not loaded, meaning I don't bake the conclusion into the question. 0.99
04:25:54.200 When you say most women come off a certain way, or they don't come off smart. 0.61
04:26:00.200 By your logic.
04:26:01.140 What do you mean by my logic?
04:26:01.960 Your logic was, Brian, you have incentive to clip these women badly because they come off badly.
04:26:09.300 My response to you was, wait a second.
04:26:11.800 If it's the case a woman comes off well, they actually get clipped well because it brings in views. 0.93
04:26:15.560 You agree. 0.98
04:26:16.460 Then by your own logic, the entailment of that is if more women came off good, they would get clipped good, right? 0.98
04:26:23.420 Sure. 1.00
04:26:23.820 Okay, great.
04:26:24.720 Stay for two things really quick.
04:26:26.720 Wait, Andrew, hear this out.
04:26:27.400 That doesn't prove anything. 1.00
04:26:28.080 The only thing that I would say is that it must prove that a lot of women don't come off very well. 1.00
04:26:32.200 No, but that's not exclusive to women. 0.97
04:26:34.480 Nobody's saying it is. 0.55
04:26:35.680 Nobody's saying it's exclusive to women. 1.00
04:26:37.040 It just must mean that for women, they must not come off very well. 1.00
04:26:45.040 I'm not talking about men. 1.00
04:26:46.440 Can you tell me what group we're talking about?
04:26:48.560 Is it men or women?
04:26:50.360 What group are we talking about, men or women? 0.75
04:26:53.160 Women. 0.99
04:26:53.640 Okay, great. 1.00
04:26:54.300 So then it must be the case that that group we're talking about, women, must not come off that well, right? 1.00
04:26:59.820 I think they come off as any other normal person. 1.00
04:27:01.900 Wait, wait, two things, two things.
04:27:03.120 Really quick.
04:27:03.640 If you won't answer, I don't care.
04:27:05.840 I grant you.
04:27:06.300 I grant you.
04:27:06.760 I just don't care.
04:27:07.780 Can I steal that as argument?
04:27:09.080 Nope.
04:27:09.780 So two things here.
04:27:10.540 That comes off like that? 0.99
04:27:11.800 That shit? 1.00
04:27:12.180 Hold on. 1.00
04:27:12.480 That's what's going to come off that.
04:27:13.520 So two things.
04:27:14.320 So two things here.
04:27:17.120 You post reels on your Instagram, right?
04:27:19.400 Are you going to clip anything from this podcast?
04:27:21.340 No, definitely not.
04:27:22.220 You're not going to post any clips from this podcast?
04:27:23.960 if you did would you post clips 0.99
04:27:26.600 where like Andrew's fucking dunking on you 0.99
04:27:28.420 or it didn't happen 0.99
04:27:31.000 that's true I've been very
04:27:32.760 nice to you or
04:27:33.820 would you tend to post a clip where maybe
04:27:36.820 you had Andrew on the back foot once or twice
04:27:38.680 if you were to
04:27:40.420 no I would be completely
04:27:42.780 honest I value that very deeply
04:27:44.940 you what?
04:27:46.560 I value that very deeply
04:27:48.220 valued what?
04:27:50.660 authenticity
04:27:51.140 no I said I wouldn't
04:27:53.760 I wouldn't misrepresent
04:27:56.720 a disagreement where I'm doing
04:27:58.920 really well. And then my second thing
04:28:00.940 was simply actually the most viewed
04:28:02.880 short on my channel, 15 million
04:28:05.100 views. The next highest is only 9.3
04:28:07.240 million. It's actually a woman. 1.00
04:28:09.140 I clipped a woman having a good moment 1.00
04:28:10.960 on the podcast. That's the most viewed
04:28:12.980 clip on this channel. But it benefits
04:28:15.000 you. Sure.
04:28:17.280 That's a different... But that makes this
04:28:19.000 argument. But in most cases, you're
04:28:21.020 taking the opportunity to 1.00
04:28:22.880 make these women seem stupider 1.00
04:28:25.600 than they are. Then you're countering your own argument. 1.00
04:28:27.540 How? Because if it
04:28:29.580 was the case that women came off looking good 1.00
04:28:31.600 and let me make that 1.00
04:28:33.540 fucking argument before you 1.00
04:28:35.480 try to make a counter. 1.00
04:28:37.520 So if it's the case 1.00
04:28:38.840 that women who look 1.00
04:28:41.380 good get clipped good 0.99
04:28:43.280 therefore bring in more views
04:28:45.740 Brian incentive for all 1.00
04:28:47.660 women who look good would be to clip them 1.00
04:28:49.540 looking good. Yes or no? 1.00
04:28:51.380 answer the question first in the qualifier i don't care i don't know no one could make you 0.99
04:28:58.860 look stupid you do it to yourself you just literally refuse to answer questions no one 1.00
04:29:03.180 could make you look stupid you do it to yourself brian you say that women cannot take accountability 1.00
04:29:07.700 but every time generally speaking but every time i've called you out for being rude on this podcast 1.00
04:29:12.020 you take it out on me you say oh you're a feminist you're so sensitive you love sisterhood all this 0.99
04:29:16.800 shit and you will not take accountability for being an asshole where does my rudeness stem from 1.00
04:29:20.980 your broken heart i don't know 1.00
04:29:24.900 yeah so how much how much must men tolerate uh like do you think we must eternally
04:29:34.900 keep maintain calm composure even in the face of someone disrespecting you
04:29:40.960 like let me ask you a question here's i'm not oh my god you called me retarded because i called 0.78
04:29:46.500 you out on your rudeness. You've been a little retarded, so I think it's fair to call a retard 1.00
04:29:50.020 a retard. That aside does. See, that is straight up disrespectful. Yeah, fine, but you kind of 1.00
04:29:54.200 deserve it, I guess. Okay, thank you for taking accountability. Fine, I take accountability. I'm
04:29:58.800 a jerk. Anyways. Thank you. Yeah, so look, the idea here is that 1.00
04:30:04.360 if someone keeps poking at you, keeps poking at you,
04:30:09.880 um do you you just gotta you're not gonna get upset you bring people on here to have these
04:30:18.360 debates and you pick the topic i think it's okay to have the debates and there's going to be some
04:30:21.940 level of you know people are going to make mistakes and you know interrupt or whatever
04:30:25.860 but uh there's a level to it that gets uh a little bit obnoxious and it's still not right
04:30:32.680 to disrespect someone uh can i disrespect a pedophile sure yeah okay so there's some
04:30:38.800 level there's sometimes there's sometimes or it's acceptable to disrespect somebody yeah okay so
04:30:44.240 then taking it down a little bit um if someone's disrespectful towards me can i be disrespectful
04:30:48.820 towards them yeah i guess or you can be the bigger but you are also sorry oh yeah sure you
04:30:56.820 were also bringing it you were also being disrespectful on a higher a much higher level
04:31:01.760 than she was yeah i mean there's always going to be some level of escalation
04:31:07.760 doesn't but you i mean you probably think that um you know um we should just allow all the we
04:31:14.420 should just give all the illegal immigrants amnesty and you know when they resist arrest
04:31:19.080 we should just let them go right i wouldn't say that no do you believe in giving all illegal 0.99
04:31:25.760 immigrants amnesty i don't know what that means i don't uh okay uh the illegal immigrants are here 0.54
04:31:32.820 Are you against or in favor of deportation? 0.95
04:31:35.600 I don't think there should be ICE, but if an illegal immigrant gets arrested by the police, then, yeah, deportation instead of jail. 0.75
04:31:47.000 Yeah, I mean, you're doing the... 0.79
04:31:48.920 Oh, my God.
04:31:49.920 Is that not fair?
04:31:50.600 See, this is somewhat the problem. 1.00
04:31:52.420 So, like, this is the suicidal empathy of women. 0.99
04:31:56.080 So, you don't believe that there should be immigration enforcement. 0.80
04:31:59.260 You don't think there should be ICE.
04:32:00.560 So what I'm talking about here with levels of escalation, I know I'm like the immigration
04:32:06.560 enforcement's a little bit different than like discourse on a dating podcast.
04:32:10.260 However, it does get to this idea that you want to have ultimate maximal empathy. 0.63
04:32:18.340 And like, for example, if I'm a police officer and let's remove the illegal immigration
04:32:24.640 component and I'm trying to arrest somebody and they resist arrest, you do understand 0.97
04:32:29.240 that i'm going to have to escalate force to effectuate the arrest yes and sometimes that's
04:32:35.560 going to hurt your the observer's feelings because i might have to be a little rough with them yeah
04:32:40.460 yeah i might have to use force for your own safety for my own safety yeah and your point is
04:32:46.820 you wait you i'm trying to relate this to like immigration so you're just in favor of open
04:32:54.120 borders essentially yes but if a criminal happens to be an illegal immigrant then i think they
04:32:59.700 should just be deported okay but they are committing crimes by entering the country illegally 0.92
04:33:03.680 and they should be deported
04:33:05.640 no is this is this a sensitive subject being that you're from minnesota
04:33:12.080 is this a little touchy anything oh you minnesota there are a lot of immigrants
04:33:17.080 Look, look 1.00
04:33:19.340 Minnesotans are fucking weird, that's true 1.00
04:33:21.620 I don't even live in a blue part of Minnesota 1.00
04:33:24.780 Are you liberal?
04:33:26.600 I'm not a liberal
04:33:27.540 I would say I'm left-meaning, but I'm not a liberal
04:33:30.240 You want open borders and you want to get rid of ice
04:33:32.320 I also think we should all have guns
04:33:34.460 So I am not a liberal
04:33:35.820 I believe in the right to have a gun
04:33:38.840 May I jump in?
04:33:39.940 Let me let a few chats come through
04:33:41.760 Then I'll have you jump in
04:33:43.660 Alright, here
04:33:45.420 let's uh can i have you read these i'll give you something to do i suppose okay remember when i 0.62
04:33:51.380 said please don't be stupid on purpose this is what i meant just argue to argue i know man it's
04:33:56.520 like been super meta uh arctic thank you very much for your super chat man really appreciate it 0.94
04:34:00.480 uh rachel wilson uh let's read this one from rachel if you can please i'm a woman who has
04:34:05.980 been on the show multiple times and and had multiple viral clips with millions of views 0.97
04:34:10.720 I'm not complaining that I look stupid, but that's because I'm not stupid easy. 0.98
04:34:14.720 We've had many intelligent, smart women come on the show. 1.00
04:34:20.480 Oh, I thought you were like, no, you're saying she's the misogynist here. 1.00
04:34:25.620 There's actually a great monetization incentive for women who look awesome to clip out them looking awesome.
04:34:34.500 So I don't know why that was so hard to concede or just say yes to. 0.99
04:34:38.780 Are we getting back into this?
04:34:40.000 No, no, no, no, no.
04:34:40.720 You get to see things, but I don't.
04:34:42.880 Nope.
04:34:43.660 Yep, he does.
04:34:44.600 He does.
04:34:45.020 He gets privileged. 1.00
04:34:46.080 It's fucking patriarchy. 1.00
04:34:47.600 Yeah, well, here's the thing. 1.00
04:34:49.140 I'm actually fine with that.
04:34:49.840 Hold on.
04:34:50.100 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
04:34:50.800 Go ahead.
04:34:51.300 Go ahead. 1.00
04:34:52.860 I agree with the arsler pretended Christian. 1.00
04:34:56.840 Just say it. 1.00
04:34:57.380 Just say it. 1.00
04:34:57.700 Just say it retarded. 1.00
04:34:58.380 Retarded. 1.00
04:34:59.680 Y'all need to listen to the dumbass and be respectful. 1.00
04:35:04.540 Wait. 1.00
04:35:05.320 We need to listen to the dumbass? 1.00
04:35:06.860 Did I read that? 1.00
04:35:07.600 Oh, wait.
04:35:08.500 They're saying that we're being rude to her.
04:35:11.240 Oh, I don't know.
04:35:12.360 Okay, we have one more here that's... 1.00
04:35:13.980 Even though they're calling her stupid, 0.99
04:35:15.720 but they're saying that we should be nicer. 1.00
04:35:17.280 All right, we have this one.
04:35:18.840 If you can read this.
04:35:19.600 AR, thank you.
04:35:22.220 Didn't we read that already?
04:35:23.340 Oh, yeah, we already read that.
04:35:25.380 No?
04:35:26.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:35:27.160 Yeah, we did.
04:35:27.740 Yeah, you called us Persia and McDonald's.
04:35:29.360 It actually came in as a TTS.
04:35:32.960 It was $200.
04:35:33.660 Maybe you stepped away.
04:35:34.760 Yeah, it was $200 last time.
04:35:37.520 They sent it in again.
04:35:39.000 What?
04:35:39.220 i i promise we've that's been out there before yeah yeah it has been maybe he sent it as a super 1.00
04:35:45.980 chat uh persia mcdonald's are two of the most impressive women on the show to date kudos to
04:35:53.960 you you know what it did come through but he okay i see he sent it as a tts and as a read okay
04:35:59.200 looking forward to okay thank you thank you for your two messages one is a tts uh and then guys
04:36:06.440 Guys, as a reminder, $10 display, $100 read, $200 TTS.
04:36:10.080 Tiffany, pull up Twitch, please. 0.98
04:36:13.700 Pull up Twitch.
04:36:14.420 Guys, go to Twitch.tv slash whatever.
04:36:15.920 Drop us a follow.
04:36:16.480 Drop us a Prime sub.
04:36:18.400 Guys, it's been 40 minutes since we had a Prime sub.
04:36:20.300 If you guys can, check if you have an Amazon Prime link that you can do to Twitch.
04:36:24.440 And then you can drop a Prime sub every single month.
04:36:26.820 Drop us a Prime sub if you can.
04:36:28.460 Appreciate it, guys.
04:36:29.100 Also, like the video.
04:36:30.780 And, yeah, like the video. 0.92
04:36:32.860 And if you want to be on the show, I promise not to call you a retard. 1.00
04:36:35.960 more than three times um if you do come on the show so we're casting women if you want to be on 0.99
04:36:41.100 the show and uh all right here why don't we uh do why the hell is it okay for police to arrest
04:36:46.920 illegals well she's saying if the illegal immigrant is also committing some new crime
04:36:56.040 then it's okay to arrest them that's the only circumstance in which you can arrest
04:37:00.180 an illegal immigrant is when they're committing a crime um so i don't know about that here let's
04:37:05.020 switch gears a little bit let's do this uh on a scale of zero to ten rate your own looks starting
04:37:09.920 with you um eight uh you know what sorry um let's do this uh say face rating body rating so we're
04:37:20.960 gonna do face body rating face 10 body 7 okay 10 next face 8 body 8 10 10 why not 10 10 okay
04:37:33.500 um face 4.5 body 7. next uh face 8 body 7.5 all right andrew what do you rate yourself
04:37:46.440 body 2 face 4 no that's underrating andrew i don't think so that's an under totally dad bod
04:37:53.680 that's lies for two you would have to be like obese you're not obese you're maybe a 0.99
04:38:03.420 bit overweight but you're and then the fuck andrew you're handsome what handsome for my 1.00
04:38:10.040 yeah what the fuck you said your body's a two what do i pay you for do it do it 1.00
04:38:15.540 and then uh face for all that's also an underrating um so okay we have a 10 okay 1.00
04:38:22.960 then let me be as charitable to myself as i possibly can say your 10 andrew body body three
04:38:28.920 uh face for my age is six all right there you go all right okay there that's fair all right 1.00
04:38:35.780 i give myself 4.5 face 4.5 body uh okay so ugly fuck and then uh let's see okay so the two women 1.00
04:38:47.440 who are tens um we got the 10 and the 10 uh do you think you're the most beautiful woman here 0.99
04:38:52.660 most attractive woman here i think beauty is subjective so no i wouldn't say that
04:38:56.700 beauty is subjective but would you say that would i say that no huh no 0.97
04:39:02.460 okay but even though beauty is subjective are some women better looking than others
04:39:09.820 sure even from your subjective lens sure okay so are you the most beautiful woman here
04:39:14.480 no from your who's the most beautiful woman here i think we're all beautiful in our own ways
04:39:19.240 yeah but who's the most beautiful we are equally beautiful equally beautiful
04:39:23.480 equally beautiful
04:39:25.440 okay what do you think
04:39:27.640 if there was a burn victim who was sitting
04:39:29.880 there and like
04:39:31.340 half their face was half burned
04:39:33.800 off and the eyeball was kind of still hanging
04:39:35.820 out right and
04:39:37.900 there was burns through the mouth so you
04:39:39.880 could see the teeth and the gums
04:39:41.260 would you say that person was equally beautiful
04:39:43.460 I just might to make them feel better
04:39:45.480 exactly so the thing is is like
04:39:47.340 you would just lie
04:39:48.740 when asked that question specifically
04:39:51.900 You would deceive with intent.
04:39:54.600 You would lie about it.
04:39:55.760 So why is it that we would just assume that you're not lying right now?
04:39:59.900 That's your assumption.
04:40:01.140 No, but why shouldn't we assume that?
04:40:03.020 If it's the case that you are just telling me that no matter how grotesque the monster was that was right next to you, you would just lie.
04:40:12.760 Nobody here is that grotesque.
04:40:14.780 Yeah, I'm not assuming that they are.
04:40:17.060 I'm giving you the example of the extreme so that I can demonstrate to you that no matter
04:40:22.680 how grotesque they were, you would just say they were equally attractive to make them
04:40:25.920 feel better.
04:40:26.780 Why shouldn't everybody just assume that you would just lie to do that anyway?
04:40:30.480 Why wouldn't everybody assume what? 0.64
04:40:31.840 That you would just lie to do that for all the women here.
04:40:33.720 You can assume that if you want to. 1.00
04:40:35.080 That's your prerogative.
04:40:35.940 That makes sense to assume though, right?
04:40:37.800 That's fine if you assume that.
04:40:38.960 If you come to that conclusion, that's fine.
04:40:40.600 Yeah, I know it's fine, but it makes sense to assume it.
04:40:43.920 By your logic, yes.
04:40:44.980 Okay.
04:40:45.240 uh and then you're a 10 okay i guess why is that tilt your mic down a little bit um i'm a 10
04:40:51.460 because okay are you the most beautiful woman here no let me get let me get to it who's the
04:40:57.680 most beautiful woman okay okay okay ready get to it you're trying to start a cat fight right now
04:41:02.500 chill all right okay the reason i say i'm a 10 i think i'm a 10 and i think confidence is what
04:41:07.580 makes you a 10 does it yeah like not cockiness but more like confidence like if you worked
04:41:12.460 hard to be the woman you are and my boyfriend thinks I'm a 10 and everyone has a preference
04:41:18.540 maybe I'm a 7 in someone else's eyes but I believe I'm a 10 and like I'm not gonna go on
04:41:24.420 can I ask you a question can somebody's confidence drop instantaneously like what do you mean um
04:41:31.240 assume they either get a text message from somebody that maybe they didn't get a job or
04:41:37.000 maybe they got dumped or maybe some sort of something happens and their confidence instantly
04:41:43.820 drops.
04:41:45.180 And, but like, it's not like a permanent drop.
04:41:47.320 Maybe like you start doubting yourself a little bit.
04:41:48.920 Maybe it comes right back up an hour later.
04:41:52.140 And that's like, if it comes back up, that means you believe in yourself.
04:41:56.320 You know, you don't let yourself hold it down.
04:41:57.100 But you would agree that it is instantly possible.
04:42:00.060 Let's try it a different way. 0.96
04:42:01.480 Point at who you think is the most confident woman in the room.
04:42:07.000 she might be i think it might be me you think you're the most confident woman i used to not be
04:42:14.200 okay hang on actually that's totally fair now who do you think is the most beautiful woman in the
04:42:20.140 room i think everyone's beautiful now that's not my question i'm i know i i'm sure you think
04:42:26.200 everybody's just lovely everybody's the loveliest ever there's never been lovelier people but who
04:42:32.780 do you think is the prettiest woman in the room i feel like as a woman i can't answer that maybe
04:42:39.120 you guys why not why don't you guys tell us who do you yeah but but i'm not i mean you can ask
04:42:43.900 me after i ask you and i'll answer but who do you think is prettiest woman in the room i can't answer
04:42:49.500 that i'm sorry because you think it's you no i just think then who is it how could it possibly 0.70
04:42:55.320 start a fight with anybody if you pointed at somebody else other than you to tell them i can't
04:43:00.620 Decide who's the most beautiful woman.
04:43:03.240 Just from your lens. 0.84
04:43:04.460 Like from my lens, I think she's really beautiful. 0.89
04:43:08.560 You think she's prettier than you?
04:43:09.920 Yeah, I do.
04:43:10.280 Is she more confident than you?
04:43:11.700 No.
04:43:12.100 Then confidence itself can't be the deciding factor, can it?
04:43:15.520 But I think like she's very model, so.
04:43:18.420 Got it.
04:43:19.080 Hang on.
04:43:19.340 So just on physicality, then you make Brian's point for him.
04:43:23.280 When Brian says.
04:43:23.920 But she's just shy.
04:43:24.940 I get it.
04:43:25.540 Because of camera.
04:43:26.080 But that's lack of confidence.
04:43:27.660 It does. 1.00
04:43:28.080 That would make her more attractive when she builds her confidence.
04:43:30.620 then okay got it but interestingly enough it makes brian's point that we can't just utilize
04:43:36.860 confidence based on looks yeah confidence confidence for just the sake of attractiveness
04:43:41.760 you yourself don't even use it yeah exactly so if that's the case it seems like it's reasonable
04:43:45.980 brian doesn't either yeah i see what you're saying yeah that makes sense yeah that makes 0.71
04:43:50.380 sense but also assume like are there women who are ugly yes like really ugly yes like they're 0.98
04:43:58.120 fucking 500 pounds i'm not gonna i'm not gonna lie of course right but some people come but is 1.00
04:44:03.560 it possible that the ugliest woman in the world could simultaneously be the most confident well 1.00
04:44:09.900 there's the fence between confidence and then covering up your insecurity no but let's assume 1.00
04:44:13.560 that she is indeed like her mental constitution is so strong that despite being 500 pounds and 0.98
04:44:21.900 fucking ugly she is indeed the most confident woman in the world this would not then change 0.97
04:44:27.660 really external assessments 1.00
04:44:30.540 of her beauty or attractiveness.
04:44:32.280 I guess I see what you're saying.
04:44:33.320 It doesn't work in every... 1.00
04:44:35.960 Like a fucking 400-pound hippo 0.99
04:44:38.460 in the club? 1.00
04:44:38.680 Maybe she could gaslight me enough 1.00
04:44:40.500 with the confidence.
04:44:41.320 And let's be real. 1.00
04:44:42.020 There's a lot of fucking fat bitches 1.00
04:44:44.080 with cocky attitudes. 1.00
04:44:45.640 Yeah, this is so true.
04:44:47.080 She says it's different.
04:44:47.760 I mean, am I wrong about that? 1.00
04:44:49.700 There's like a lot of women 1.00
04:44:50.840 who you're like, 1.00
04:44:51.620 they got half their gut
04:44:52.880 hanging out their shirt, right?
04:44:54.780 There's just rolls
04:44:55.620 hanging out of their shirt
04:44:56.760 and they're walking around. 1.00
04:44:57.660 And act like they're the shit. 1.00
04:44:59.740 That's obnoxiously confident. 1.00
04:45:01.320 I'm saying like, you think you're...
04:45:02.780 Am I wrong?
04:45:03.980 I'm not going to say you're wrong, but I want you to acknowledge that there are a lot of men who do that, too.
04:45:08.400 But the interesting...
04:45:09.700 I'm going to agree that there are some men who do that.
04:45:14.020 I agree with that.
04:45:15.600 I'm going to make this distinction, though. 1.00
04:45:17.720 I usually don't see really fat, ugly dudes walking around like they're the shit. 1.00
04:45:23.380 I honestly don't. 1.00
04:45:24.300 But what does that mean to you? 1.00
04:45:25.480 I see way more women who are just like, why the fuck are you in leggings? 1.00
04:45:31.400 You're 290 pounds. 1.00
04:45:32.840 Why are you in leggings right now?
04:45:34.720 Go ahead. 1.00
04:45:35.040 I don't see men doing that shit. 1.00
04:45:36.540 I don't. 1.00
04:45:37.280 Sorry.
04:45:37.800 Go ahead.
04:45:38.680 I've had really overweight men before.
04:45:41.180 And not that overweightness makes you ugly, but men that you consider a one.
04:45:45.860 It don't help. 0.71
04:45:46.700 Whether like face or body, just like being a one, even in the negatives like that.
04:45:50.220 I've had them make comments on me, on my body.
04:45:52.860 My parents have tried to drag me down within it.
04:45:55.000 Like, there are very overly confident men that I think are delusional.
04:45:59.460 Not disputing this. 0.98
04:46:00.200 Yeah, like, cocky and obnoxious. 1.00
04:46:01.220 Same with women, though. 1.00
04:46:02.000 Same with them. 1.00
04:46:02.580 I've had so many girls bullying me.
04:46:04.120 Listen, I would never dispute that it's not the case.
04:46:06.460 There's going to be some men who are like this.
04:46:08.440 Just saying that in my experience, I don't see those men walking around with a shirt up here with 196 pounds of fat roll folding out in Lula Rouge leggings.
04:46:20.060 Those girls need, like, honest words. 1.00
04:46:21.320 Or whatever, walking around with their cellulite bouncing around, and then go, I'm the shit. 1.00
04:46:26.580 I don't actually see that. 1.00
04:46:28.420 That's just denial and insecurity.
04:46:29.840 So one response to what you're saying, one response to what you're saying, and I'm not entirely certain what you're talking about when you say, like, these ugly men are making comments on your body.
04:46:41.580 But it's not clear if they're suggesting that they necessarily themselves are hyperattractive.
04:46:47.340 Like, I don't think it takes a weatherman to tell you that it's raining.
04:46:50.420 so like this idea that well who like for example i even get this because look i give myself a 4.5
04:46:56.600 but frequently we do this looks rating segment and people are like well brian you're not all that
04:47:01.380 good looking yourself like you're average or some people's even below average i mean that's my own
04:47:06.260 self-assessment um who are you to say but the thing is is that regardless of my own standing
04:47:12.320 or my own looks you can still make assessments about somebody else like i'm not a professional 0.58
04:47:17.900 athlete i'm not a football player but if somebody like completely fucking fumbles the football 0.81
04:47:22.660 i'm like that's a bad play but i've never i i wrestled i never played football i i don't know 0.91
04:47:28.380 much about football uh but i'm like hey that that's a bad play there so regardless of your
04:47:33.680 lacking of uh standing yourself you can still make assessments about somebody else um you don't have 0.94
04:47:40.940 to be fucking 10 out of 10 brad pitt to be like okay that woman's a nine she's a seven she's a 0.96
04:47:46.400 five she's a three she's whatever i do agree that is a very fair take and i honestly do agree with 0.99
04:47:52.060 that but i do think it helps like the person who is making that call and whoever else it does help
04:47:57.240 if they are on a more attractive scale or if they are of lesser value on an attractive scale i think
04:48:03.460 it does dictate it a little bit okay like you might deem their like you don't but you don't
04:48:09.560 need to be a mathematician to know one plus one equals two yeah so like is is this observable
04:48:16.440 like do i have eyes does this person have eyes can i observe the state that they're in go ahead
04:48:22.020 okay um so what you're saying i actually agree with everybody does that it's called social
04:48:26.500 positioning you see where you are in the social hierarchy sure um i'm not sure if that's what i'm
04:48:30.760 talking about but go ahead it's close i mean you're assessing people's attractiveness right
04:48:34.980 That's a part of social hierarchy.
04:48:36.680 100%.
04:48:37.120 Right?
04:48:39.200 I'll come back to it.
04:48:39.940 There's a thing called conventionally attractive.
04:48:42.760 Okay, let me try something real quick.
04:48:46.100 I know you're about to say something.
04:48:47.000 Oh, I remember it.
04:48:48.040 Okay, go ahead.
04:48:49.520 So what I will say is, I think it's just when, let's be real about it.
04:48:54.480 Talking about looks and attractiveness makes a lot of people feel uncomfortable.
04:48:58.540 And because when people feel uncomfortable, they are going to attack the source of where
04:49:02.960 that uncomfortability is going rather than self-evaluating like a majority of people do
04:49:06.600 can you not agree that's typically how a lot of people unless it's the unless it's the case that
04:49:11.800 you note that um that giving the honest answer actually gives less scrutiny then the the way
04:49:20.460 the hierarchy responds is different and so i would think if there was more scrutiny towards
04:49:25.200 a non-answer that you'd want to give um the correct answer right or the answer that you
04:49:30.120 actually believe because that would reduce scrutiny okay so so here's my question i got two
04:49:36.940 for the whole panel just very quickly with hand raises who here considers themselves honest
04:49:42.380 honest hand raise okay you're all honest all right so i want you to close your eyes all of you
04:49:50.100 promise nothing bad will happen just close your eyes all right all you're gonna have to do is
04:49:54.460 raise your hand to the question i'm about to ask so none of you can see the other one and we're
04:49:58.820 banking on your honesty have any of you ever gone into a room with your girlfriends and completely
04:50:04.740 picked another woman apart everything about her from her body to the way she looked to how
04:50:11.080 disgusting you thought she was based almost purely on the fact that you just dislike her
04:50:16.340 hands up if you've ever done that you've you two you're okay your hands down all right that's my
04:50:26.780 only question may i add something for the why i think i'm a 10 it's just i said seven i said seven
04:50:33.580 for my body because i need i see improvement there's always room for improvement sure i said
04:50:37.540 10 for my face because i like the woman i've grown into and my face um let's do this tell
04:50:42.420 me a woman who's a 10 megan fox tell me a man who's a 10 um ian sommerhalder okay uh tiffany
04:50:50.740 you start pulling photos uh who's a guy who's a 10 for you michael b jordan michael b jordan okay
04:50:58.420 and then um who's a woman who's a 10 for you kylie jenner kylie jenner okay so um i think
04:51:05.720 we actually jenner we all know those people probably um so okay just so i understand this
04:51:10.540 correctly with all that you're a 10 kylie jenner's a 10 you're you're her that's your league you're
04:51:17.940 on her her level you kind of look like her in a way oh my god bro this the sister oh did that
04:51:26.360 hurt you that's not the first time well i just i just want to make sure that you remember that
04:51:31.300 you raised your hand when you said you're honest maybe that she kind of looks like kylie jenner
04:51:36.660 too right i would say like slight resemblance like maybe facial structure wise not maybe features
04:51:41.360 because i mean kylie jenner is like ethnicity i mean very different and i resemble brad pitt
04:51:46.100 Well, no, but I think there's nothing wrong with recognizing someone's facial structure.
04:51:48.880 I can agree.
04:51:49.900 I just want to make sure that I note this correctly.
04:51:52.300 If Kylie Jenner were in the room with her, you would have trouble distinguishing between them.
04:51:56.000 No.
04:51:56.320 Okay, great.
04:51:56.640 Absolutely not.
04:51:57.240 I just think maybe a similar face shape, though.
04:51:58.920 I'm not shocked by that answer.
04:52:00.300 Ryan, are you shocked by that answer?
04:52:02.280 Would you have trouble distinguishing between them?
04:52:05.540 They're identical.
04:52:06.700 Yeah.
04:52:07.080 No, I don't disagree with the statement.
04:52:08.140 As it turns out, nobody would have any trouble making the distinguishment because of how little they look like each other.
04:52:14.120 Isn't that amazing?
04:52:14.960 I would say maybe just similarity-wise.
04:52:16.280 Mind you, Kylie Jenner's had a lot of help from the scalpel, okay?
04:52:22.520 That's true.
04:52:23.260 So we've got to factor that in, I suppose.
04:52:25.480 Okay, so Michael B. Jordan, Kylie Jenner, Ian Somerhalder, 0.94
04:52:30.180 or whatever the fuck, I can't pronounce that guy's name, 0.96
04:52:32.080 and Megan Fox. 1.00
04:52:34.080 Okay, so you're just as good-looking as Megan Fox.
04:52:38.420 I think I have similar features, but she's just fine.
04:52:41.880 Wait, wait, hold on.
04:52:43.220 I understand she looks different, but you're basically just as attractive or about as attractive.
04:52:50.680 Yes?
04:52:52.360 Yes.
04:52:53.040 Okay, and then Ian, the Ian Somerhalder guy, you're just as attractive in terms of, like, you're his looks match, looks league.
04:53:03.240 Yeah, he's, like, a good-looking guy.
04:53:05.540 Okay, and then for you, Kylie Jenner, that's your looks league, looks equivalent.
04:53:11.680 Also, so I want to make a distinction. I think there's a difference between the most attractive a regular person can be with regular access to hair, makeup, whatever, compared to how attractive a person can be when they are a billionaire or a millionaire and they have access to professional hair and makeup, surgeons, you know, things like that.
04:53:29.160 So I think there is a distinction between like the normal people 10 and the celebrity.
04:53:33.600 Okay, so you're, well, then you're a normal person.
04:53:36.200 Absolutely. I'm not a celebrity 10.
04:53:37.680 But I mean, you have, I mean, you regularly wear full face of makeup and your hair, it
04:53:43.000 doesn't just seem like it just was spontaneously like that.
04:53:46.480 You do put an effort into your appearance, right?
04:53:49.000 Sure.
04:53:49.300 So, I mean, you have a bit more access perhaps, or at least more effort.
04:53:53.500 I have more access than a millionaire?
04:53:54.900 No, I'm not saying more access than a millionaire, but more access than an average person.
04:53:58.800 You don't think I have less access?
04:54:00.100 What do you have?
04:54:00.640 What do you have?
04:54:01.360 Hang on, hang on.
04:54:01.980 If I had more funds.
04:54:02.200 Just chill for a second.
04:54:03.320 Let me ask the question.
04:54:04.740 Okay, go ahead.
04:54:05.280 what specifically do you have access to for your looks that a millionaire has that you don't have
04:54:12.240 access to? I do not have the funds to hire professional hair and makeup. Yeah. But most
04:54:19.040 of the time they're not using, hang on. Most of the time they're not using professional hair and
04:54:23.360 makeup in a setting like this. They can do the, if a celebrity was on a podcast, I just want to
04:54:29.160 make sure they wouldn't have. Nope. Nope. Hang on. Hang on. I'm not going to say that that's not
04:54:33.180 the case but what i will say is that like the people you're comparing yourself to if they did
04:54:37.640 their hair and makeup themselves you're still not in league with them that's okay that's your
04:54:41.280 opinion so but you say that the the distinction would be that they have access to somebody doing
04:54:47.480 their hair professionally and makeup i'm saying have access to fitness instructors they also have
04:54:52.040 access to much healthier food much easier they don't have access to but having access to they
04:54:57.140 have access to a lot of things that can increase you don't have access to a fitness instructor i
04:55:02.040 I do not have the funds to have a fitness instructor, a dietician, a hairstylist, and a makeup artist.
04:55:06.100 I'm just confused.
04:55:07.960 What are you confused about?
04:55:08.700 Isn't it the case that most of the time your fitness instructor actually acts and co-acts as your dietician?
04:55:14.600 Not necessarily.
04:55:15.940 Most of the time?
04:55:16.660 Not necessarily.
04:55:17.060 Like, if you joined.
04:55:17.700 Just to say that I can afford it as a instructor.
04:55:18.640 Like, for instance, if you joined.
04:55:20.240 That's what I'm asking you.
04:55:21.540 I just said no.
04:55:22.160 Can you, you can't go to, like, a 24-hour gym and get a personal instructor?
04:55:27.160 That costs money.
04:55:28.420 How much money do you think that costs?
04:55:30.400 for a professional graded like fitness yes at a 24-hour gym it's not actually that much money
04:55:35.660 not the highest of the high level though so you think that why would you need that though to be
04:55:40.760 on par hold on look let me talk so you think that any fitness person that i go when i go to gold's
04:55:45.580 and i'm like hey who's your trainer here you think that's equal to the fitness instructors
04:55:49.500 that kylie jenner kim kardashian i don't think that you think that's equal i don't think you
04:55:54.240 think they're getting paid the same if you let me answer i was finished so i'll answer directly okay
04:55:58.780 no i don't think it's equal but i think it's so fucking close as to what the services that you're
04:56:05.480 getting i don't know how it would so vastly improve your looks that you would then look like them
04:56:10.240 i didn't say i would look like then what is this distinction between a celebrity 10 and a normal 10
04:56:15.320 we were talking about being more attractive yeah but this infers that there's services that they
04:56:19.220 would have that if you had them you would look like that uh i would reach another level of
04:56:23.960 attractiveness so what is the thing that this person's going to provide for you that's going
04:56:28.160 to make you as hot as those celebrity tens that you are comparison to five times i'm sorry i have 0.97
04:56:33.460 to move it on i have to move it on but a personal fucking trainer and a better diet someone doing 0.99
04:56:38.680 your hair personal trainer dietitian wait wait good lord all things you could do yourself 0.98
04:56:43.880 all things you could do yourself that's the point that you're missing yeah but that wouldn't
04:56:47.540 equalize it stop okay so uh first off the idea that just because you have access to those things
04:56:55.360 those things that you referenced the plastic surgery like I think women can have a baseline 0.83
04:57:00.260 level of aesthetic beauty and attractiveness that doesn't even warrant or necessitate any plastic 1.00
04:57:05.760 surgery that's a 10 a woman like Kylie Jenner is forever not a 10 because it's artificial it's 1.00
04:57:12.760 artificial like it's a she's an artificial I don't even think she's an artificial 10 but she's not 1.00
04:57:18.260 like a true true blue 10 like it's all fucking it's all smoke and mirrors and like women really 0.99
04:57:25.280 don't like this because then it attacks your makeup it attacks all the ways that you coerce 1.00
04:57:29.440 men to have sex with you and be in relationships with you because you guys fraud you fraud your 0.99
04:57:34.760 attractiveness somebody's phone i guess i don't fucking know um but uh yeah is she searching up 0.99
04:57:41.120 the photos of them i'm just skipping that for the sake of time are there any tent like do you have 0.82
04:57:47.220 any tents like uh yeah i've shown i've shown photos of them yeah i see i guess we can do
04:57:55.100 super quick tiffany pull it oh i can say okay i think that the thing that's really stopping the
04:58:01.540 average person from being like really attractive your mic straight to you go ahead um that's really
04:58:06.960 stopping them from being like really attractive it's just like one or two plastic surgeries i
04:58:11.120 feel like most people have like one flaw that like makes them unattractive or like not as
04:58:16.380 attractive as they could be so for example they have a lot of buckle fat or they have a really
04:58:20.440 high forehead um i think if you correct for them that's something that celebrities uniquely have
04:58:24.360 access to you could like significantly ascend how you look like yeah plastic surgery can assist but
04:58:30.600 i think there's going to be like plastic surgery at least as it currently is can really only take
04:58:36.060 you so far and then like you have to consider it's it's just massive levels of fraud so you're 0.92
04:58:43.400 just fucking frauding why is it fraud yeah well okay why why are people attracted to people to 0.98
04:58:48.440 begin with oh i see yeah it's because it's like signals good genes or whatever right so your kids 0.99
04:58:53.500 are going to be fucking ugly well no because like i'm talking about oh i just said that like the 0.98
04:58:58.660 average person needs like one plastic surgery to like really look like really attractive um i think 0.99
04:59:03.860 it's not really like frauding because you're fixing uh features which are kind of like subjective
04:59:09.660 which are determined by society to be really attractive so things like height like yes that's
04:59:14.800 very much a signal of good genes but things like like big lips that doesn't necessarily mean
04:59:19.020 anything that's just a social standard wait but hold on so it facial attractiveness is what would
04:59:29.740 be important still yeah but for certain aspects of facial attractiveness it doesn't actually
04:59:35.360 correlate to anything real as opposed to body like for example like height yeah but i would
04:59:39.880 argue a guy who's 5'10 who has a lethal face card is going to outperform the guy who's 6'5 0.96
04:59:45.820 who's ugly as fuck yeah so the idea that like face is irrelevant it's just about height is 0.98
04:59:50.920 completely bogus i feel like that's a bit of a non sequitur but also it's a what it's a bit of 0.99
04:59:55.140 a non sequitur well you're saying height more important no i'm saying that when it comes to
05:00:00.040 body it signals things like good genes this is where fraud like no but you're taking the step
05:00:06.540 away because my i said well okay what's one of the reasons that uh people care about looks
05:00:12.320 I said good genes
05:00:13.900 yeah okay so good genes
05:00:16.380 so like and genes can dictate
05:00:18.180 facial attractiveness yes but
05:00:20.100 the point I was
05:00:22.320 making is that one of the reasons
05:00:24.180 that we find people attractive and then 1.00
05:00:26.240 we want to fuck them because they're attractive 1.00
05:00:28.240 is one 1.00
05:00:30.100 so we fuck them and procreate and 1.00
05:00:32.180 continue the species and we want to 1.00
05:00:34.080 pass on as many advantages to our 1.00
05:00:36.180 children so if a woman's completely 0.98
05:00:37.920 frauded herself and look I mean hey 1.00
05:00:40.060 two ugly people can make a pretty 1.00
05:00:41.560 pretty kid whatever it's not but not off but it's more likely like it's more likely if one or both 0.95
05:00:48.900 of them are attractive like that's going to confer uh facial attractiveness to their children 1.00
05:00:53.140 generally speaking of course there's like supermodels sometimes pump out like ugly kids i 0.99
05:00:57.640 get it but uh the reason we are attracted to facial attractive one of the reasons anyway 1.00
05:01:02.620 Oh, shit. 0.99
05:01:04.800 V Timby Indy. 0.99
05:01:06.120 Timby underscore Indy donated $1,000.
05:01:09.320 Grab me a champagne bottle.
05:01:09.800 Hi, Brian.
05:01:10.760 Hi, Andrew.
05:01:11.780 Hi, ladies.
05:01:13.320 Want to hear more from chairs one and five. 0.90
05:01:20.380 Yo, Indy.
05:01:21.820 Guys, W's in the chat for Indy.
05:01:23.280 It's been a minute since we had a champagne pop.
05:01:24.940 I'll be talking more for you, Indy. 1.00
05:01:26.700 What a fucking legend. 1.00
05:01:29.480 Wait, you're leaving? 1.00
05:01:30.280 Keep on giving, Indy.
05:01:31.300 We'll talk more.
05:01:32.620 wait what do you mean 30 minutes saying that i'm gonna be leaving at about 11 tonight
05:01:41.020 you're not doing the whole show no wait so can i leave too hours okay that's what i got maybe 0.96
05:01:46.940 that's five hours now what all right what the fuck is going on with this sorry i'm stuck here 0.89
05:01:53.300 all right it's rough i know um okay brian come on how come you don't you didn't like get super 0.93
05:01:59.960 upset at andrew for being late but like other i was upset at andrew for being late you didn't
05:02:05.280 like publicly like shame him for it well i texted him and i was not pleased he was not 0.93
05:02:10.640 pleased and when he came in i didn't greet him and i was fucking rude to andrew that's true 0.89
05:02:14.820 you have to understand the distinction though i don't fucking care right that's like that's 0.88
05:02:21.960 the distinction i did and also we're friends i don't care i did ask andrew to be early it's 0.68
05:02:29.140 It's because he has a time and he has OCD, so he wants things a certain way.
05:02:32.520 No, it's not just OCD.
05:02:34.140 It's just like, he was like, okay, do you want me to read the text?
05:02:39.760 It was not pleasant.
05:02:41.620 He was not pleasant.
05:02:42.260 I don't like going off, huh?
05:02:44.420 You have to remember, I have certain advantages, right?
05:02:47.700 Which is like.
05:02:48.460 He did leave the room, so he didn't want us to hear what's going on. 0.97
05:02:50.860 Which is where I can be like, I don't fucking care. 0.98
05:02:53.560 I don't fucking care. 0.98
05:02:56.400 But, yeah, that's all. 0.99
05:02:58.880 I'm, like, waiting for it to pop.
05:03:00.760 Okay, but Megan Fox, Transformer era.
05:03:04.900 Beautiful. 0.69
05:03:05.540 She's stunning.
05:03:06.020 Her original nose and her natural eyebrows were just so good.
05:03:10.480 Transformer era for Megan Fox.
05:03:12.520 That was her best face.
05:03:15.880 She didn't touch anything.
05:03:17.920 Who wants champagne? 0.99
05:03:19.180 No, Transformer.
05:03:19.900 She was really beautiful. 0.94
05:03:20.760 Okay, anyways, who wants champagne?
05:03:22.520 Anybody want champagne?
05:03:23.220 Well, hold on.
05:03:24.360 Bro, who's over the age of?
05:03:27.120 I'm 22.
05:03:27.680 Who's the 20-year-old?
05:03:29.880 You?
05:03:30.260 I'm 22.
05:03:31.140 Wait, who's the 20-year-old?
05:03:32.160 We don't have a 20-year-old here.
05:03:33.300 We have a 20-year-old.
05:03:34.180 Oh, no, I am.
05:03:34.960 Oh, no, she's not.
05:03:35.520 We have two 20-year-olds.
05:03:37.300 No, you're not.
05:03:38.660 Oh, wait. 0.99
05:03:39.260 Guys, don't fucking just make it. 0.99
05:03:40.540 I am 20. 0.99
05:03:40.840 It's not that fucking hard. 0.98
05:03:42.100 Just be it. 0.96
05:03:42.480 You too.
05:03:42.880 I am 20.
05:03:43.400 I'm 22.
05:03:44.360 He knows me.
05:03:45.820 Wait.
05:03:47.080 We have two 20-year-olds.
05:03:48.380 I'm 20.
05:03:49.260 Okay.
05:03:50.100 Yeah.
05:03:50.400 I've been raising my hand.
05:03:52.000 This did not need it.
05:03:53.000 Okay, so.
05:03:53.900 I'm 22.
05:03:54.620 22.
05:03:55.520 22.
05:03:55.880 These two are the 20-year-olds.
05:03:57.840 Do you want champagne?
05:03:59.020 Yes, please.
05:03:59.500 Do you want champagne?
05:04:00.160 Do you want champagne?
05:04:01.120 Do you want champagne?
05:04:03.560 All right.
05:04:05.220 Okay.
05:04:06.680 I don't ever want to be 20 again. 1.00
05:04:08.380 He was a fucking jerk. 1.00
05:04:10.040 But you took it like a man. 1.00
05:04:11.260 I just don't care. 0.91
05:04:12.800 Because he's my boy, so I don't care.
05:04:15.160 I need more cups. 1.00
05:04:17.200 That shit rolls off. 1.00
05:04:18.460 Thank you, Indy. 1.00
05:04:19.040 Appreciate it.
05:04:19.740 Pass it down, I guess.
05:04:21.280 Oops, sorry.
05:04:21.860 Overfilled there.
05:04:22.460 My bad. 1.00
05:04:22.840 He's ten times the dick that Brian is 1.00
05:04:26.440 And I don't care 0.99
05:04:27.060 You know what, in order to make up for your lateness, Andrew
05:04:29.920 You just have to stay the whole show
05:04:31.280 You're staying up
05:04:33.300 Stay the whole show, Andrew
05:04:35.300 You think I can tolerate debating her?
05:04:38.580 I got an important appointment Monday, man
05:04:40.300 I'm sorry, I can't
05:04:41.760 But I was happy to come down and make some great-ass content
05:04:46.480 Does everyone get it?
05:04:48.940 Did everyone get one?
05:04:49.620 I think everyone got it
05:04:50.380 Alright
05:04:52.160 All right, to Indy, thank you very much for the champagne pop.
05:04:55.520 It's been a minute since we've had one.
05:04:58.240 To Indy, thank you, man.
05:04:59.460 Appreciate it.
05:05:00.360 Now we have to talk.
05:05:02.300 All right, sorry.
05:05:03.320 I had some weird champagne stuff on there.
05:05:04.880 I'll be back.
05:05:06.400 What are we talking about?
05:05:07.900 I don't know.
05:05:08.220 Indy said me and her need to talk more.
05:05:10.620 I don't know what to talk about.
05:05:11.260 Chairs 1 and 5 do. 1.00
05:05:12.600 Sorry?
05:05:13.440 I said chairs 1 and 5.
05:05:14.320 That's 1 and 5, huh?
05:05:15.440 Yeah.
05:05:15.760 Not you.
05:05:16.760 I'm sorry.
05:05:17.460 I thought like...
05:05:18.060 Not you.
05:05:18.640 No, 1 and 5.
05:05:19.140 Not you, unanswerer of all questions.
05:05:22.160 yeah they say that you guys need to talk more so you want me to leave it huh you want me to
05:05:29.060 lead here yeah is that what's going on I'm supposed to be asking you the questions yes
05:05:33.860 well you said that you're orthodox that's interesting your mom's religion gonna follow
05:05:36.780 that um yeah I like it you're gonna stick with it yeah you should stick with it I like it and
05:05:44.520 then you were baptized orthodox right um not baptized I wasn't able to clarify that but
05:05:49.200 my boyfriend is orthodox christian so i would just kind of fall along but i am christian like
05:05:53.680 oh i see okay gotcha well um here's what we'll do uh
05:05:58.360 uh she wanted to see the photos of like the not the women i think are nines or whatever 1.00
05:06:05.460 um but she fucking got up i want to see the age thing whatever they age them forward 0.78
05:06:11.060 uh okay so let's get into some of the notes here then uh why don't we go to you um what's up um 0.97
05:06:23.860 if you're not going to show it can you just tell us who you're celebrating it's gonna have to wait
05:06:26.520 we have limited time here so we can come back to it um all right uh
05:06:31.740 So, okay, the prevalence of misogyny.
05:06:39.640 You believe there's high prevalence of misogyny.
05:06:43.760 Why don't you explain that briefly?
05:06:45.460 Yeah, I think just in the everyday interactions between men and women,
05:06:49.100 men typically look down on women.
05:06:51.240 Typically, okay.
05:06:51.800 But do you believe there's high prevalence of misogyny?
05:06:57.640 Less so.
05:06:58.660 There's more so.
05:06:59.940 Well, my stance is there's less.
05:07:01.560 Well, there's actually studies been done. Tiffany, go ahead, pull up the infographic stem. So the reality is, like, do you go on TikTok at all?
05:07:08.860 Instagram reels.
05:07:09.900 Okay. Do you think you're more likely to come across a video that's a man saying, I hate women? Or are you more likely to come across a video that's, I hate men? 0.86
05:07:19.900 In my experience, I more so see the I hate women, but I'm sure it goes the other way around as well. 0.94
05:07:25.120 Well, first off, this is completely bullshit because if you have even a benign, misogynistic take, these platforms, especially TikTok, you're going to get your account banned and you're going to – or maybe not that far, but oftentimes you'll get your account banned or the video is going to be taken down. 0.97
05:07:45.260 meanwhile i don't know why there's this double standard on the social media platforms 0.97
05:07:49.140 uh completely uncontested misand misandrist videos on tiktok millions of likes uh millions
05:07:57.160 of views i hate men no no problem tiktok completely allows it you try you try to say
05:08:04.440 anything like that on tiktok about women instant ban my videos i get three videos per day on tiktok
05:08:11.000 removed that are just about looks ratings and stuff like that meanwhile women can have tiktok
05:08:18.860 videos where it's like i hate men it's not all men but always a man just complete unfettered
05:08:25.680 misandry well i think that it's just you have the thing tiffany it's it just can't
05:08:31.040 huh it's like just the infographics tab it's going to be um yeah sure we'll do that one
05:08:40.860 And then there's like one that's the that's a bit higher.
05:08:43.860 Let's look at that really quick. Then I'll I'll let you go. Go ahead. Pull it up.
05:08:48.240 So, OK, this is Republican men are more likely to blame women for their problems.
05:08:52.420 So twenty six percent, twenty six percent. I can't see the fucking cameras covering it. 0.99
05:09:00.500 So, OK, let's just use the 30 to 49 demographics. 0.99
05:09:03.020 So 24% of Republican men are going to blame women for their problems, whereas 8% of Democrat men are going to blame women for their problems.
05:09:12.800 Now let's go see the other one.
05:09:15.280 Make it bigger, please.
05:09:17.020 I don't know what. 1.00
05:09:18.400 So whereas Democratic women most likely to blame men for their problems. 0.70
05:09:22.720 So 54% in that same age cohort is going to blame men for their problems.
05:09:28.960 66% of that lower age demographic is going to blame men for their problems.
05:09:35.040 And it's even higher.
05:09:35.760 So it's both higher among Democrat women and Republican women.
05:09:38.840 And then go back to the other one really quick, just for a quick reference. 1.00
05:09:41.780 So the biggest one is 66%.
05:09:43.540 The biggest one here is 26%.
05:09:45.420 One in four men think this way.
05:09:49.360 Two-thirds of your age cohort think this way.
05:09:52.900 Uh, and then Tiffany, you're going to scroll up and we're going to go to, uh, there is
05:09:59.380 the scroll up, scroll up.
05:10:01.820 I'm trying to see where it is, uh, from four 28, uh, the new radicalism among young women.
05:10:10.020 Uh, so women under 25, uh, 27% have a, uh, women under 25 have a 27%, uh, 27% of them
05:10:22.300 have a negative view of men women under 30 21 men under 30 7 negative view so if we're gonna
05:10:30.640 like use negative view to just be uh analogous to misandry or misogyny then this is clearly a
05:10:39.840 more prevalent issue among women than it is against men so like this whole manosphere 0.99
05:10:43.720 fucking moral panic is complete bullshit it's actually i already know your argument it's it's 1.00
05:10:49.080 actually women it's a she's gonna say what is it um well okay well i'll write it down hang on 1.00
05:10:54.860 let's do an experiment i think i know what it is i would like to write it down and write it down
05:10:58.700 and then see if how right i am okay write it down um and then tiffany there's one more while he's
05:11:04.140 writing that prediction down um scroll uh down to uh may 21st young women have become much more
05:11:12.880 liberal so it's actually women who are becoming way more radicalized uh so there's not much change
05:11:21.500 among men uh whereas women have become way more way more liberal way more radical in their
05:11:27.340 politics um so anyways i've pretty much laid it out andrew's writing it down hang on i'm almost
05:11:33.560 done almost done okay well while he's doing that let me see if the guys like the video if you're
05:11:37.760 enjoying the stream oh we have a message here from here okay uh let me just let this message
05:11:43.440 come through then all right uh great rfc the other night my dude oh this thank you man thank
05:11:52.180 you uh andrew long time listener about to be first time donor hey appreciate the support worth
05:11:59.000 appreciate it who were you the shaman the hunter the the paladin what were you man i'm happy to
05:12:04.880 support strong bros no homo no homo dude appreciate it thank you thank you man appreciate 0.78
05:12:08.580 it uh okay go ahead so i think the main issue with these kinds of studies is they're self-reported
05:12:14.580 and so men may not consider like themselves to be haters of women but they hold views which do
05:12:21.640 kind of position women as being lower than them and then that shows up in the way that they interact
05:12:26.440 with them i think that the reason why you see women like being more um misandrist now is because 0.82
05:12:32.740 there's obviously a rise in the popularity of feminism there's like less religion now and stuff
05:12:37.720 like that but i don't think that these women for the most part will like talk down to a man when
05:12:42.900 they talk to him if they're like a leftist themselves or something and it's perhaps possible
05:12:46.460 that when asked to self-report whether they hate men they see that as hating the patriarchy they
05:12:52.440 see this as hating sort of the um the framework in which men are in charge it's more reactive
05:12:57.940 Wow, you're doing a lot of misandry apologia right there.
05:13:03.300 Oh, am I?
05:13:03.940 I mean, it's wrong.
05:13:05.900 It's wrong to be an actual misandrist.
05:13:07.520 Well, I think it's interesting that you're taking this line of argumentation.
05:13:11.320 Does it match up with what Andrew wrote?
05:13:13.780 No.
05:13:14.440 Oh, let's go.
05:13:15.440 See, I did get it wrong.
05:13:17.580 Your argument here was much worse.
05:13:19.600 The argument that I would have made is it's true women have a more negative view about men, but that's due to how men treat them. 0.72
05:13:27.540 Well, that is basically what I said. 0.62
05:13:29.320 Okay, well then...
05:13:30.140 They're talking the patriarchy.
05:13:31.580 They're talking the systems.
05:13:33.000 Then I did predict it perfectly.
05:13:35.840 It was just less nuanced, but like the right general direction.
05:13:38.260 How could you just agree that that's basically my argument and then disagree that that's basically your argument?
05:13:43.220 The direction is the same, but you lack sort of the steps.
05:13:45.440 Okay, got it.
05:13:46.260 Yeah, so I predicted your argument.
05:13:47.840 Great. 1.00
05:13:52.520 It's men's fault that women view them poorly.
05:13:56.400 Not necessarily.
05:13:57.700 It's also...
05:13:58.000 Well, then I don't know why you just adopted the argument. 1.00
05:14:01.160 It's kind of true.
05:14:02.460 I think social media...
05:14:03.180 Just argue it on both sides of your mouth.
05:14:05.300 ...too, because a lot of...
05:14:07.080 We see the worst of the worst of men on social media nowadays.
05:14:11.420 So it does lead us to dislike men more.
05:14:16.760 Okay.
05:14:18.000 And I know social media is a problem.
05:14:20.220 You realize that bad?
05:14:21.320 The horrible...
05:14:22.420 How horrible that argument is.
05:14:24.300 No, I'm not saying that social media is a good thing. 1.00
05:14:27.520 I'm saying that that is why a lot of women are just like men nowadays. 0.98
05:14:31.480 The idea that you pin it on men that women view them poorly is a chicken and the egg argument. 0.99
05:14:36.840 It's like, no, perhaps it's the case that men actually are starting to have a more negative view of women since they have a lesser negative view of women than women do of men because of how fucking women treat them. 0.99
05:14:48.800 What's the rebuttal there? 0.99
05:14:50.100 That could be part of it.
05:14:51.040 Yes, of course.
05:14:52.120 Of course.
05:14:52.680 Of course.
05:14:53.620 but just because in that chart it's such a weak argument just because in that chart it says that
05:14:58.180 less men hate women that doesn't actually mean that less men hate women do you like do you
05:15:02.700 understand like the issues with self sorry i'll just finish it's like self-reporting data is like
05:15:07.420 not accurate right men will not admit that so then the studies that support the southern women
05:15:12.520 are lying the studies that support hang on hang on women are lying or men are lying who do i answer 0.98
05:15:16.680 me the studies that support okay fuck dude the studies that support your position then should 1.00
05:15:23.340 Should we disregard those, too? 0.99
05:15:24.580 Take them with a big grain of salt.
05:15:26.660 So we should just disregard studies?
05:15:28.240 No, we need to do a lot of studies.
05:15:29.580 Which I mean, I'm fine with.
05:15:30.240 And then we can take the aggregate of these studies and see the common trends between them and see how they evolve over time.
05:15:35.360 And then even then, it's not going to be 100% found.
05:15:37.680 Yeah, what if I told you that the aggregate finds this data over and over and over again, that you're going to find far more misandrist content and women much more flagrantly openly hating men than you'll find it in the opposition?
05:15:49.960 Well, first of all, I don't know if that's true, but assuming that it is.
05:15:52.840 But assuming it is.
05:15:53.100 Assuming it is, I don't think that's actually indicative of how men feel about women.
05:15:57.460 Agreed.
05:15:57.780 Because a lot of everyday interactions, they don't consider that being misogynistic if they don't talk to a woman but talk to her boyfriend exclusively.
05:16:05.660 Yeah, I'm talking about the aggregate is the other direction, though. 0.85
05:16:08.180 Women openly showing hostility and dislike towards men. 0.82
05:16:12.400 Yeah, but they show it towards the patriarchy where men is plural, men is a concept.
05:16:16.580 Yeah, that's not what they report.
05:16:17.380 Not specific men in their daily lives.
05:16:18.920 But that's not what they report.
05:16:19.680 Why do we need to accept that framing, though?
05:16:21.460 I think it's just true because
05:16:23.620 Because it's just true 0.97
05:16:25.540 Most women have boyfriends versus women have male friends 0.93
05:16:28.120 Most women have male friends
05:16:29.640 Oh I have one black friend therefore I'm not racist
05:16:31.900 Actually yes I think if you have a black friend
05:16:33.820 You're probably not racist
05:16:34.780 Why would you be friends with someone who you think is beneath you
05:16:37.220 Wait so it's impossible to be friends with somebody
05:16:39.660 And be racist
05:16:40.340 Got it
05:16:42.600 That's coherent
05:16:44.700 Why would that be true
05:16:47.960 If we ask people
05:16:49.440 Do you love animals
05:16:50.640 Most people would say yes, even if they eat meat.
05:16:53.680 Do their actions prove that they love animals if they're eating meat?
05:16:57.100 Not really.
05:16:57.860 Oh, boy.
05:16:59.640 So men are not going to admit that they hate women. 1.00
05:17:02.860 Men love titties and ass, so they're not going to say they hate women. 1.00
05:17:06.000 This is crazy. 1.00
05:17:06.320 But a lot of men's actions can be hateful towards women. 0.80
05:17:10.500 So it's men's fault that women hate them.
05:17:12.240 I never said that.
05:17:13.660 But that's what the argument actually was reduced to, right?
05:17:17.000 I think both sides have a part to play.
05:17:18.340 Then why did you agree with that?
05:17:19.040 I agree.
05:17:20.040 Wait, wait. So as somebody who's pro-life, then this would give rise to justification for male hatred of women because, like, millions of, like, women aborted, like, a third of Gen Z?
05:17:31.800 Wait, really?
05:17:32.560 Wait, what?
05:17:33.080 Yes, really. 0.87
05:17:34.280 Yeah, women aborted a third of Gen Z. 1.00
05:17:36.680 I could. 0.99
05:17:37.400 Or maybe, I think it's a third or fourth or something like that.
05:17:40.340 You're saying that's a viable reason for men to hate women?
05:17:43.420 No, I'm not.
05:17:45.340 I'm not saying that men should hate women because of that.
05:17:48.540 I know.
05:17:48.860 I'm using your argument.
05:17:51.840 If men should hate us.
05:17:53.140 Oh, my gosh.
05:17:53.520 Because we aborted.
05:17:54.700 Okay.
05:17:56.060 Yeah, think.
05:17:57.480 So think of it this way.
05:17:59.500 So if women are reporting that they hate men more than men are reporting that they hate women, right?
05:18:07.920 Is your answer to that because men treat women poorly, so they just hate them more?
05:18:14.840 men men won't admit that they men aren't gonna say straight up that they hate women
05:18:23.900 some might some might yeah but i believe that men's actions are sometimes hateful so men are
05:18:32.420 liars or they just don't realize in comparison to women you think men are liars really quick
05:18:39.920 also this would actually point to a privilege wouldn't this point to a privilege that uh 0.96
05:18:45.020 that women have because if it is the case that men are like withholding self-idding as a misogynist
05:18:52.320 out of fear of reprisal that this means that as a society we've done pretty much as much as much 0.77
05:18:58.640 as humanly possible to to like stifle the hatred of women but like women basically have carte blanche 0.99
05:19:05.020 to be like fucking brutal 1.00
05:19:07.200 like unabashed 1.00
05:19:08.960 man haters and
05:19:10.860 nothing happens to them but if you're
05:19:13.100 a woman hater as a man
05:19:15.060 ooh boy social repercussions
05:19:17.260 are going to come down on you hard
05:19:18.820 that's why I always say they don't hate them enough 1.00
05:19:20.180 I feel like a lot of women that are like 1.00
05:19:22.600 public man haters have probably 0.99
05:19:25.140 been through some shit that was 0.99
05:19:27.020 traumatizing 0.99
05:19:27.500 okay but wouldn't you say that
05:19:29.820 you could say that wait wait
05:19:31.100 so it's justified
05:19:32.820 for some people probably yeah do you think it's justified some people probably have a lot of 0.91
05:19:42.500 trauma that revolves around great okay so let's say a black person victimized me 1.00
05:19:46.320 i now hate all black people is that justified 0.99
05:19:48.800 no okay a woman then here if race is difficult wait wait if if race is difficult for you a woman 1.00
05:19:57.820 traumatized me now i hate all women is that justified that honestly i don't know why that
05:20:03.580 feels more ah female privilege feels no i don't know why like the sexism and racism are just two
05:20:10.200 different things no but but you said even even within the gender paradigm if a man hates a woman
05:20:16.280 because of that that that's uh worse i feel like when a lot when women say they hate men
05:20:22.680 they don't mean that they hate all men i'm just going to assume the same thing about men
05:20:27.440 All right.
05:20:28.020 And that's probably true.
05:20:29.320 So then there's still more women who hate men than men that hate women. 0.98
05:20:32.520 I mean, there's more women that will admit it. 0.96
05:20:34.120 I would say it's a pretty clear argument.
05:20:35.540 That brings me to an interesting question then.
05:20:39.040 Are you saying that you think that women are just more honest than men?
05:20:45.080 We'd have to look up statistics.
05:20:46.660 I don't know.
05:20:47.280 No, I'm just asking you what you might think.
05:20:49.600 I'm not even going to try to statistically dispute it.
05:20:53.520 I don't know.
05:20:53.820 Men and women lie about different things.
05:20:55.220 Because like we were saying earlier, a lot of women will lie to a girl and tell her she's pretty even if she's not.
05:21:01.420 A man probably wouldn't do that. 0.99
05:21:04.080 But a man would probably lie more about something to keep his safe face or something.
05:21:10.320 So you're not saying that they're more honest or less honest?
05:21:12.740 No, men would just lie about different things.
05:21:14.060 Can we run a quick experiment here?
05:21:16.300 Sure.
05:21:16.920 Okay.
05:21:17.560 So I want to ask this question in two different ways.
05:21:19.800 And we'll just go through it very quickly.
05:21:21.540 We're going to start with you.
05:21:22.480 let's assume for a second that you have a male best friend and a female best friend okay who do
05:21:28.180 you tell your darkest secret to if you had to choose one my female best friend your female
05:21:32.920 but okay go ahead i actually do have both and i think my male best friend knows more about me
05:21:36.660 male best friend female female best friend male best friend male best friend okay who do you think
05:21:42.920 would be more likely to tell your secret the male or the female i think it's very situational
05:21:49.920 because I've dealt with both parties doing that to me.
05:21:52.020 I'm just asking, who do you think would be more likely
05:21:53.960 if you had a male best friend?
05:21:55.020 I think male, 100%.
05:21:56.040 The man would be more likely to tell you, say you?
05:21:58.600 Genuinely neither, I'm sorry.
05:22:01.000 You?
05:22:01.520 I think the man, yeah.
05:22:03.260 Does my ex count as my male best friend?
05:22:05.240 No, no.
05:22:05.660 Because actually I would tell him first.
05:22:06.800 We're just assuming a hypothetical, but okay. 0.97
05:22:08.900 I think female.
05:22:10.280 The female would be more likely. 0.99
05:22:11.440 Yeah, because I had a lot of experiences with that.
05:22:12.700 Now let me ask the question a slightly different way.
05:22:15.140 Who here is gay? 0.66
05:22:16.100 Anybody? 1.00
05:22:17.420 Perfect.
05:22:18.220 Okay, so who would you be more likely to tell your deepest, darkest secret to?
05:22:22.100 Your husband or your female best friend?
05:22:25.480 Wait, one more time, sorry.
05:22:26.540 Your husband or your female best friend? 0.99
05:22:32.520 Probably husband.
05:22:33.520 Husband. 0.88
05:22:34.140 You.
05:22:34.260 Husband. 0.99
05:22:34.900 Husband. 0.99
05:22:35.900 Husband.
05:22:36.380 Okay, so then I don't understand.
05:22:38.420 What makes him suddenly more trustworthy just because he's your husband versus best friend?
05:22:45.180 Because usually husband knows more than you, right?
05:22:47.020 Isn't your husband your best friend?
05:22:48.740 Yeah.
05:22:49.100 Yeah.
05:22:49.720 Well, then I don't get it.
05:22:50.860 I'm super confused.
05:22:52.200 Why would you be more likely to tell your husband who's your best friend?
05:22:57.320 Because I would assume that my husband would have more respect for me than a random guy.
05:23:01.200 Because I don't believe in having male friends.
05:23:02.160 How is it a random guy if it's your best friend?
05:23:04.560 Well, no, not random guy.
05:23:05.740 But I say guy in general, knowing how a lot of men think with friendships.
05:23:10.880 That's why I don't have any guy friends.
05:23:11.940 I don't personally believe in that for myself.
05:23:14.460 But your husband's your best friend.
05:23:16.220 I mean, within marriage, of course.
05:23:17.840 Yeah, sure, but he's still...
05:23:18.900 I think it's a very different case, though, when it's within marriage.
05:23:21.860 Okay, so does that...
05:23:22.920 Well, you already said the man. 0.95
05:23:24.520 You trust women less?
05:23:25.860 No, I think this is situational for me, but my... 0.93
05:23:28.260 Would you trust your husband?
05:23:29.560 Okay, but same question to you real quick.
05:23:31.540 Would you trust your husband with your deepest, darkest secret or your best friend?
05:23:34.620 Yes, and I'll explain why.
05:23:37.020 Even just regardless of best friend, whatever,
05:23:39.840 your husband is the only person who, like, legally took a vow to be binded to you for the rest of your life.
05:23:44.200 So I would consider that a greater commitment than your best friend in a general sense of things.
05:23:51.940 You?
05:23:52.860 Husband or best friend?
05:23:54.280 Husband, yeah.
05:23:55.200 And I would say male best friend, too.
05:23:56.820 Husband or best friend?
05:23:57.640 That counts as your husband.
05:23:58.460 No, I say husband because I used to not, my boyfriend, I would not choose him as my best friend.
05:24:04.740 But now I go, you're my best friend and my boyfriend because I trusted a female best friend.
05:24:09.980 So you would say husband?
05:24:11.020 Yeah, I would say husband.
05:24:11.520 Okay, got it.
05:24:12.180 So here's the thing that's really funny.
05:24:14.200 and here's this is might blow your mind right but i can almost guarantee you the entirety of the
05:24:20.920 chat if there's men who have female best friends right they are not going to tell their wives
05:24:27.960 their deepest darkest secret and they're going to be way more likely to tell their male best
05:24:32.880 friend their deepest darkest secret why do you think that is over their own wives that they 0.98
05:24:38.620 would do that i would argue oh no you go oh no you go i interrupted you i would argue that maybe
05:24:44.520 it'd be more situational then because there are men that i've known that would rather some will
05:24:49.300 i'm just saying on average i can almost guarantee if you took that poll anywhere maybe more ashamed
05:24:54.820 of their secrets they feel like their friends won't judge them as maybe harshly as their wife 1.00
05:24:58.940 would somebody made like a commitment you know vowels or maybe they think that women are fucking 0.98
05:25:03.200 vindictive and will utilize those secrets later in order to hurt them because women engage in 1.00
05:25:09.240 information warfare rather than physical warfare. I won't disagree with that, but I also think 1.00
05:25:13.300 if you're going to be like that towards your partner, your husband, someone you took 1.00
05:25:16.740 literal vows with to marry, you're a crappy person overall. You shouldn't have married 1.00
05:25:20.660 that person. Like my boyfriend right now, I can never imagine using information like that.
05:25:24.580 That's a very female-esque way to put things when it's the case that you would center the 1.00
05:25:31.280 secret with the man because you trust him more whereas men don't trust women more than they
05:25:36.160 trust men so it's interesting when when it's like well i trust men more and it happens to be that
05:25:41.640 i'm with a man that i'll trust him with the secrets when when men are like well i trust women
05:25:46.080 less but i'm supposed to trust my wife with the secrets i just i see what i'm saying yeah i see
05:25:51.000 what you're saying and i understand but i would still just then argue that it is more of a
05:25:54.380 situational case because it's not going to be the same every case is going to be situational i get
05:25:58.520 We're just looking at averages.
05:25:59.660 Yeah. 0.95
05:26:00.380 And on average, men have good cause to trust women less. 0.99
05:26:04.620 I mean, like, are they bad secrets or like? 1.00
05:26:06.560 Yeah, sure.
05:26:07.180 Whatever the secrets are.
05:26:08.940 Who would you tell first?
05:26:11.800 Well, for my particular case, I think my wife and I have been through hell together over many, many years.
05:26:19.640 Like, you know, you're post-decade in.
05:26:22.000 So I'd be most likely to tell her.
05:26:24.700 But it is also the case that I understand that that's not the common experience and that most men would not choose their wives to tell their darkest secrets to, assuming that if there was divorce or things like that, that would then be used as a weapon against them.
05:26:40.520 So they would probably confide in their male best friends.
05:26:42.960 And it's just interesting because every time I ask this question, I see women more often saying, I would confide in my husband over a female best friend.
05:26:50.780 And then I see men say
05:26:52.420 I would be more likely to confide in my male best friend
05:26:55.060 Than my wife
05:26:56.340 But is that because men do lie more?
05:27:00.020 And men are willing to lie for you?
05:27:00.620 No, it's because they just trust less
05:27:02.440 They think that women have big mouths 1.00
05:27:05.000 And gab about shit 1.00
05:27:06.180 And we'll use that as weapons 1.00
05:27:07.660 In my case, it's a little different too
05:27:11.960 I've gone through a lot with my boyfriend
05:27:13.700 He trusted his best friend
05:27:15.280 And he blabbed something
05:27:16.980 And now we tell each other everything
05:27:19.800 he actually prefers people outside of our relationship to not know anything he's very
05:27:25.520 yeah i understand that concept which is why i just give the bifurcation if you only have the
05:27:31.480 two options i understand not wanting your business to go out to anybody and so you're kind of like 0.55
05:27:37.420 general practices i don't say shit about us you don't say shit about us that makes sense to me
05:27:41.820 but if you had to choose that's the that's the whole point all right um i'm waiting for this
05:27:51.060 girl to return because she has the disagreements with andrew here so can we check on her what's 0.72
05:27:56.540 what's her deal i've been gone for fucking ever um lord knows i actually disagree with your take 0.96
05:28:03.640 um i think that men find it easier to create emotional safety with women rather than with 0.97
05:28:10.680 other men now if we're talking situationally of a situation sorry got the time crunch here going
05:28:16.540 back to this uh prevalence of misogyny i don't think you've really made a compelling argument so
05:28:20.960 let's uh yeah so i think that the way that the average man interacts with the average woman
05:28:26.640 tends to be kind of condescending where's your evidence of this it's i guess anecdotal but
05:28:32.740 so my anecdote can just defeat your anecdote yes there's studies from which we can infer uh self
05:28:38.780 reports yes actually hang on i'll just challenge this um there are studies which can back any claim
05:28:47.180 do you agree and and if that's the case that you do agree can you actually name the study that you
05:28:53.780 think is backing yours yes so there was a study done by the un globally and it demonstrated that
05:28:59.760 90 of women or sorry 90 of men hold a negative view of women let's find out if that's actually
05:29:06.760 Yes, please do.
05:29:07.740 Now, is this global?
05:29:08.800 Yeah, it was a global study.
05:29:09.780 Yeah, so we would have to keep this concentrated here.
05:29:12.280 Well, I'll check it first, and I will make my argument after that.
05:29:13.840 Well, but we need to concentrate it to the United States.
05:29:15.460 Also, we must also address the massive bias that the UN has.
05:29:20.700 What's the bias? 0.99
05:29:22.100 Are you familiar with the UN women?
05:29:24.560 Not really.
05:29:25.100 You're not even aware.
05:29:25.820 Okay, you're citing to the UN. 0.99
05:29:26.900 The UN has an arm called UN women, which is feminist.
05:29:31.080 So it's not egalitarian.
05:29:32.680 It's not neutral. 1.00
05:29:33.880 So you realize, like, most feminist studies have massive, massive levels of bias and methodological flaws in how they conduct their studies. 0.96
05:29:47.400 And it's like there's a lot of components to these studies.
05:29:50.120 You were wrong, actually.
05:29:51.260 Oh, okay.
05:29:52.500 The United Nations Development Program is what you're referencing.
05:29:55.940 The report found that nearly 90% of people, both men and women, hold some form of bias or prejudice against women. 0.98
05:30:04.400 Yeah, that's correct.
05:30:05.540 And that demonstrates how ingrained the patriarchy is. 1.00
05:30:09.660 Because women internalize it. 1.00
05:30:11.180 Wait, wait. 0.96
05:30:12.020 What were the actual questions being asked?
05:30:14.320 We would have to see what the questions being asked were.
05:30:16.960 You can pull it up.
05:30:17.640 You pulled up the other study, so check the actual questions.
05:30:20.540 I pulled up an infographic.
05:30:21.320 I can pull up the methodology. 0.99
05:30:22.320 but uh yeah the the un has a branch un women we send 700 million dollars a year to the united
05:30:31.080 nations and it's a feminist organization there's no corresponding un men so the un women is built 0.93
05:30:37.900 into much like we were talking about the systemic and institutional component of universities the
05:30:43.260 un is very much an institution and a systemic yeah so by that logic like if it's such a feminist
05:30:49.260 organization why are they publishing reports that say 90 of women also have a negative view
05:30:53.520 they're not saying 90 they just say 90 of people yeah so that wouldn't that that doesn't necessitate
05:30:59.960 an equal distribution you know this okay but hang on hang on can we just stop for a second you can
05:31:04.480 acknowledge that even if 90 of people hold this that would not entail an equal distribution
05:31:10.460 no but it means a lot of women have a negative view of women and even like okay regardless the
05:31:16.140 fact that they would like say 90 percent of people uh without specifying like how much of
05:31:21.620 that is men by drawing attention to the women in the first place it's implying that you know women
05:31:27.900 are complicit in this in some regard it's not really like a super raw feminist study okay so
05:31:34.040 you i just want to let point out a couple things about the methodology here now to be completely
05:31:38.500 fair because i'm not going to go through the entire study i utilized ai to just get to the
05:31:43.520 methodology. Is that fair for you? Sure. Okay. So the key findings were the meaning of the study
05:31:51.080 didn't actually measure personal dislike or hatred. Instead, it just measured ingrained
05:31:56.300 social beliefs that restrict women's equality. So all that the questions we're asking were things
05:32:02.900 like, do you think that women can vote in the same way that men can? And the answer is no. 1.00
05:32:08.780 And so that means that there's a negative view on women. Actually, that doesn't logically follow. 0.94
05:32:13.300 Hang on, hang on.
05:32:14.520 Can we just acknowledge that doesn't actually logically follow?
05:32:17.880 That if it's the case that men can vote and women can't, and a woman just acknowledges that is true, that doesn't imply negativity towards women?
05:32:26.440 Listen, in order to have a conversation, I'm going to say yes or no to your questions and then give the qualifier.
05:32:35.980 Because then at least I understand that you know what my position is.
05:32:40.480 I am not asking loaded questions.
05:32:42.740 I am asking very specific questions, and if you can tell me how they're loaded, I'm willing to
05:32:48.800 listen. My question specifically, can you acknowledge it does not logically follow
05:32:56.600 that if a woman says something like, hey, it's true in my country, women can't vote,
05:33:03.680 that doesn't mean she has a negative view of women. For that specific question, yes.
05:33:09.120 thank you now any question you ever ask me i'm going to give you the yes or no unless it's loaded
05:33:15.800 just like you did so that we can at least have a conversation okay without you like pivoting all
05:33:21.440 around i haven't done that wait let's do this who agrees with her the prevalence of misogyny who uh
05:33:26.960 that there's a higher prevalence of misogyny than say compared to misandry who agrees with her
05:33:31.580 everyone who said they're a feminist better agree or what okay so there's higher prevalence of
05:33:38.380 misogyny all right um hypocrisy what that would not actually fall into the definition of hypocrisy 0.97
05:33:45.540 because implicit in being a feminist is the idea that women are oppressed
05:33:48.520 that would still not be a hypocrisy i could hypothetically be a feminist but also say that
05:33:54.880 there's equal misogyny and misogyny going on what does hypocrisy mean like you don't hear yourself 1.00
05:34:00.080 talk like if there's no misogyny then you're contradicting yourself by saying we need to
05:34:04.200 A contradiction is not hypocrisy.
05:34:06.760 What's the difference?
05:34:08.920 Hypocrisy is a form of acting. 0.98
05:34:11.200 So hypocrisy, for instance, if I looked at Brian and I'm really fat and I said, you're fat, am I a hypocrite? 0.98
05:34:18.620 Yes. 0.98
05:34:19.260 Yeah.
05:34:19.920 What makes me a hypocrite? 1.00
05:34:21.840 The fact that, you know, you're also fat. 0.99
05:34:25.500 That would not be hypocrisy. 0.98
05:34:27.360 Isn't hypocrisy just like saying...
05:34:28.940 Hypocrisy is not me pointing out a truth about this thing while that truth is still true about me. 0.91
05:34:33.860 If you hold a double standard, that's hypocrisy.
05:34:36.960 Ah, so that would require pretense, acting.
05:34:40.760 So if I were to publicly say things like this,
05:34:44.740 smoking is the evil of our time, and I would never smoke.
05:34:48.300 And then at home, I smoked.
05:34:50.440 That would be hypocrisy, right?
05:34:52.160 However, if I smoke and I look at you and I say,
05:34:54.800 smoking is really bad for you, that's not hypocrisy, is it?
05:34:58.240 Well, if you say smoking is...
05:34:59.640 That's not hypocrisy, is it?
05:35:01.580 That's not hypocrisy. 1.00
05:35:02.920 If smoking is bad for you and then you smoke, you're a hypocrite. 0.98
05:35:05.040 Wait, if you don't answer yes or no, we can't actually have the conversation because I don't know what your actual answer is. 0.99
05:35:13.180 I'm fine with that.
05:35:13.900 That's not hypocrisy.
05:35:15.380 Wait, you're fine with what?
05:35:16.320 I'm fine with not having a conversation if me having a conversation requires me saying yes or no to loaded questions.
05:35:23.040 It's not a loaded question.
05:35:24.300 Okay, I'll tell you what.
05:35:25.260 It's not loaded.
05:35:25.980 I would give you $10,000 right now if you can demonstrate how that was loaded.
05:35:31.300 Not that specifically.
05:35:32.920 So then why didn't you answer it?
05:35:34.660 Can you repeat the question?
05:35:35.400 I won't answer loaded questions.
05:35:37.580 How is that loaded?
05:35:38.200 Guys, it's been five hours of filming.
05:35:40.120 My phone is completely broken.
05:35:41.560 I'm sorry I'm kind of stressed right now,
05:35:42.940 and I'm not, like, listening to every bit of the question.
05:35:46.160 You've been bad faith the entire time.
05:35:47.740 No, I haven't.
05:35:48.180 The comments agree with me.
05:35:49.380 The comments are saying I'm reasonable.
05:35:51.660 They're disagreeing with you, girl. 0.97
05:35:53.000 The comments are saying I'm reasonable.
05:35:54.180 No.
05:35:54.880 They're saying that you're not letting me talk
05:35:56.380 and that Andrew is mad.
05:35:57.300 You've talked the most.
05:35:59.220 You've talked the most.
05:36:00.060 That's a non-sequitur.
05:36:01.060 I feel like Andrew and her have talked the same way.
05:36:02.540 How is it a non-sequitur?
05:36:04.240 How is that non-sequitur?
05:36:05.860 You're saying we're not letting you talk.
05:36:08.080 No, I'm saying that you are saying I'm being unreasonable when the comments are agreeing with me.
05:36:13.960 That's a non-sequitur.
05:36:15.860 Why?
05:36:19.020 Obviously, I'm not that unreasonable.
05:36:20.440 Even your fan base agrees with me.
05:36:23.180 Even granting that, say we grant that the comments agreed with you, how would that even mean that you're being reasonable?
05:36:31.540 because your comments are already like against me being reasonable they don't want to see me as 0.76
05:36:36.620 reasonable they want me to establish a dumb woman whatever that would not establish stop stop that
05:36:42.360 would not establish your reasonableness what comments are you referencing we don't have the 0.95
05:36:46.280 live chat here there's been what one or two super chats that have come through yeah i don't know but
05:36:52.020 they said i was being reasonable and none of them said that i was being unreasonable there's been
05:36:55.940 multiple times you refuse to engage with it like you you refuse to just answer his questions and
05:37:00.540 you want to say that he's giving you loaded questions which just isn't true yeah like when
05:37:06.820 we were talking about the 10 000 women thing or whatever and he was like oh like if you say that
05:37:12.160 um here tell me what a loaded question is i mean there is already like an answer presupposed in the
05:37:18.800 question that is being asked okay so how was it loaded i'll give it a better example because that
05:37:23.260 one's a bit clearer in my head but um basically saying when you when we were talking about clipping 0.94
05:37:28.480 women to make them look stupid and andrew said that most women don't come off well uh you know 0.99
05:37:34.260 and that's why they're being clipped out as stupid and you know it's a yes or no do most women not 1.00
05:37:38.900 come off well the implication is that women the operative is that they are not coming off well 0.99
05:37:44.500 compared to men that's the implication of that okay but that's like not relevant to the actual
05:37:50.720 conversation go ahead i don't have anything you're just raising your hand like literally
05:38:02.300 five seconds ago well i mean i was gonna say with her with her logic of saying oh i saw like what
05:38:08.180 like in this type we'll say two comments of saying oh yeah she's right but then the other
05:38:12.320 what 10 comments disagreeing do those two comments just carry none of them disagreed with me none of 0.99
05:38:16.720 the super chest that went through were like mcdonald's girls being stupid none of them said 0.98
05:38:20.320 that they could have i think they would have oblige her oblige her she seems to thank some 0.97
05:38:27.220 viewers they all love you they all agree all of you agree with her please kindly oblige her
05:38:32.540 with a tts and uh let her know now we have some that came in a few minutes ago i think this would
05:38:39.220 be a good opportunity to uh let some chats come in so uh can i have you read them as they come
05:38:45.660 we have desert jorge thank you i thought we were going to hear more from chairs one and five 0.93
05:38:51.040 please chairs two and four shut the fuck up and let the others participate in the conversation
05:38:56.780 the audience would genuinely like to hear from them now that really seems like the it's telling 0.96
05:39:03.600 you to shut the fuck up it's very much uh and by the way that came in before we just had that 0.95
05:39:08.600 little back and forth exchange uh we have snapjack here mcdonald wait oh that okay that just came in 1.00
05:39:15.980 right now we have snapjack can you read this one not dudes or just less fucking chatty kathy's 0.61
05:39:22.040 simple nice all right we have cha here coming in thank you snapjack for the message very much 1.00
05:39:29.320 appreciate it let's be let's be totally fair right most of the women on the panel tonight have been 1.00
05:39:34.720 very engaging. They've been willing to engage in good faith. It's been all right. I don't mind
05:39:39.900 argumentativeness. That doesn't bother me. I'm happy with that. The only thing that bothers me
05:39:45.920 is if I'm asking a question, it's not loaded and it's not being answered. That does, that does
05:39:51.700 frustrate me, right? Because I wouldn't do that to you. I've just answered you. All right, we have
05:39:58.160 cha can you read this one from cha uh women will use your deepest darkest secrets for one of two 1.00
05:40:04.700 things they will either use it as a leverage against you or they will use it as a way to 0.90
05:40:08.480 create self-doubt in you through cycle cycle psychology psychologizing thank you all right
05:40:13.760 hey cha thank you for that we have snap jack we have snap jack here with another one he says we
05:40:19.800 are officially in the age of open misandry men could never never never thank you snap jack 0.98
05:40:27.120 appreciate it and then we have uh let's see we've got these regular these uh useful idiots for the 0.99
05:40:35.760 marxist mcdonald's stop lying about the chat nobody in the fucking comments agrees with you 0.96
05:40:41.100 uh mr northumberland a loaded question would be why was things right right those would be 0.95
05:40:47.080 examples of loaded let me ask you something yeah brian yeah yeah is it the ultimate form of
05:40:52.560 misogyny really can we read that there's so many yeah yeah sure sure hang on we can read it out
05:40:58.220 it's below the threshold so okay yeah it doesn't count well it was there go ahead continue is it
05:41:05.160 the ultimate form of massage well i mean if they if they don't care to spin to the threshold to
05:41:10.320 your point then it seems like your supporters are waning but that that apart um is it the
05:41:16.760 ultimate form of misogyny that so many men care so little about women's opinion on misandry or
05:41:23.580 their open man hating, um, that that actually should show women that men, uh, are the most 0.52
05:41:32.720 misogynist. That's my question. Can you repeat it please? Yeah. So let's just assume for a second
05:41:38.060 that the entire reason actually that misandry is allowed is because men care so little about 0.51
05:41:43.860 women's opinion that they'll allow them to be misandrist towards men yes yes okay so that you
05:41:52.900 would consider that a form of misogyny yes okay so misandry itself is really just misogyny
05:41:59.700 no the way that men react to it all right is an expression of seeing women less or is less than
05:42:06.460 i actually got your argument style figured out i can actually make you say whatever i want
05:42:11.040 I mean, yeah, it's true.
05:42:12.720 I can make you say whatever I want.
05:42:15.220 Don't you agree that it's misogynistic to look down on women?
05:42:20.320 Yes or no?
05:42:21.080 No.
05:42:21.960 It's not misogynistic?
05:42:23.180 No, you would have to.
05:42:25.120 Well, are you looking down on all women?
05:42:28.260 As a woman, like you're interacting with a random woman and you just assume she's less than you or she knows less.
05:42:34.260 What if it depends on the indicators? 0.63
05:42:37.320 Yes or no?
05:42:37.820 um no because it would depend on the indicators what are the indicators so the indicators would 0.95
05:42:43.660 be things like uh for instance if a woman came out and she had like fucking meth scabs all over 0.95
05:42:48.740 her and shit like that i might treat her as lesser than me but that wouldn't be an indicator that i 0.99
05:42:54.360 hang on that wouldn't be an indicator that i hated all women or made the all monolithic statement 0.99
05:43:00.060 yeah because that's not because can we just acknowledge that i answered your question with 0.79
05:43:03.620 a yes or no real quick well no you said there's indicators no no i said no and then gave you the
05:43:09.600 qualifier okay sure you answered it thank you but i think that kind of misses the mark because in
05:43:13.880 that case you're not judging her because she's a woman you would probably react to a man in the
05:43:17.600 same way so that kind of has nothing to do with it no it kind of does considering misandry as like
05:43:23.920 something you don't care about because you think that no actually i think the opposite i think that
05:43:28.000 if it's the case that a woman is well presenting like a man would be well presenting and presents
05:43:35.200 herself well that actually she gets the exact opposite reaction she gets praise actually in
05:43:40.520 way that in ways that men won't get she gets praise for being well presenting i will concede
05:43:45.460 that in some cases that does happen in most cases that is it is the case in fact that if a man is
05:43:51.100 well presenting next to a woman that's well presenting she gets the praise and he doesn't
05:43:55.580 By both men and women.
05:43:59.160 What about Kamala Harris?
05:44:00.480 She was really well-presenting. 0.53
05:44:01.680 She was not well-presenting.
05:44:03.700 Well, because she's a Democrat? 1.00
05:44:05.220 No, because she's an alcoholic. 1.00
05:44:06.940 I'll explain why she wasn't well-presenting. 1.00
05:44:09.280 She seemed to both men and women to be fake, like a chameleon. 0.61
05:44:13.660 She seemed like, depending on the environment, she would speak like she was a black woman or she would speak like a white woman. 0.71
05:44:18.200 And so that brought out biases in people where they felt like she was a chameleon, that she would shapeshift. 1.00
05:44:24.780 This was something also that people hated about Hillary Clinton when she pulled hot sauce out of her purse and was like, oh, I love me some fried chicken, right? 0.93
05:44:32.900 It made him seem like they were chameleons.
05:44:36.060 That, to me, does not indicate bias. 0.98
05:44:39.020 In fact, it's the case that if Kamala Harris was like some prim, flower, dress-wearing, very well-spoken, articulate woman, I think that she would have gotten a lot of fucking praise for that. 0.97
05:44:52.820 A lot more than men would. 0.99
05:44:56.280 Go ahead.
05:44:56.960 Do you think Donald Trump is a chameleon?
05:44:58.860 No.
05:45:00.380 So you don't think he code switches depending on which audience he's talking to?
05:45:04.620 Not really. 0.99
05:45:05.980 He's just basically always a dick. 1.00
05:45:08.300 Okay. 1.00
05:45:09.380 Isn't he?
05:45:09.780 Are you a Trump supporter?
05:45:10.420 He's like just basically.
05:45:11.840 No.
05:45:12.380 Yes.
05:45:13.520 There's clips of him.
05:45:14.820 You can look this up.
05:45:15.540 It's quite funny.
05:45:16.740 Where depending on which crowd he's talking to, he'll say, oh, I love veterans.
05:45:21.000 My favorite people are veterans.
05:45:22.080 then he's talking to like uh farmers i love farmers they're my favorite people true and so
05:45:27.260 he kind of alters his message but that's i'm just like it actually actually i'll even concede this
05:45:32.520 point just doesn't hurt my argument so he is a chameleon no that wouldn't be chameleon behavior 0.99
05:45:36.820 he's just a fucking dick all the time and he also praises those who are around him all the time 0.99
05:45:43.060 the distinction is when kamala harris kind of rides on a principle and then she will defeat 1.00
05:45:50.240 the principle itself when she's 0.99
05:45:52.340 in front of different audiences. That's
05:45:54.320 what makes people feel like they're a chameleon.
05:45:56.860 Trump actually doesn't do that.
05:45:58.500 He'll be like, farmers are great.
05:46:01.160 Right? But then when
05:46:02.340 he's in front of steelworkers, he'll also say,
05:46:04.160 steelworkers are great, but he doesn't say, 1.00
05:46:06.320 and fuck the farmers. That's not 0.99
05:46:08.260 what he does. He's saying they're the best.
05:46:10.500 True, but he just says everybody's
05:46:12.520 the best. Okay, well, by that logic, you could
05:46:14.340 say that Kamala Harris is just, you know, 1.00
05:46:16.700 code-switching to get supporters. I don't
05:46:18.340 think she drastically contradicts herself.
05:46:19.980 Yeah, but Harris doesn't present herself as a demagogue, and Trump does.
05:46:24.320 So what?
05:46:25.320 So that doesn't elicit the same feelings that a person has. 0.60
05:46:29.600 Yeah, but she's still being inauthentic, and you said that's the reason why she was not getting the same race. 0.97
05:46:33.180 No, it's not the inauthenticity, because that's expected to a degree of politicians.
05:46:37.460 It's the chameleon aspect of it, where people feel like you will actually switch the core of you to placate whoever's in front of you.
05:46:48.220 What core?
05:46:48.640 And Trump was not actually that way. 1.00
05:46:51.440 Trump was just always a dick, regardless of the crowd. 1.00
05:46:55.780 He was just always a dick. 1.00
05:46:57.360 How did she betray her core? 1.00
05:46:59.620 Look, we can't linger on fucking Kamala. 0.99
05:47:01.860 So wait, he gets to say an argument. 0.99
05:47:03.820 I'll give it to you.
05:47:04.880 I'll give it to you.
05:47:05.820 Hang on, hang on.
05:47:07.060 I'm going to run the show.
05:47:08.120 I'll give it to you super easy, right?
05:47:09.580 I've got to move it on for the second time.
05:47:10.780 Oh, Kamala Harris. 0.80
05:47:11.600 I've got Colleen Greens in the bathtub. 1.00
05:47:14.300 And then in front of a white audience, she's like, well, hello, Mr. blah, blah, blah. 0.90
05:47:18.640 law okay there's things about her that are unlikable same with that's not that's not the
05:47:23.360 same thing as saying there's things that are unlikable the distinction here is like oh i make
05:47:28.580 collard greens in front of black people and then oh i also only you know i'm white culturally in
05:47:34.340 front of white people no trump actually doesn't do that okay but the issue with kamala is it's 0.99
05:47:39.780 not really about her being a chameleon it's the fact that let's spend another fucking hour on 0.98
05:47:44.860 Would you like me to leave Andrew's talking just would you like me to leave? That's true. Yes or no 0.97
05:47:49.580 Would you like me to fucking do it? 0.99
05:47:51.040 Would you like me to leave and not waste my time more with this? Yes or no? 0.99
05:47:54.160 Do you want me to leave right now? You can stay but like do you want me to leave because you don't want I just I just said you can
05:48:00.380 stay but if 0.98
05:48:02.380 Where's the comments about her rudeness? Hello, nothing 1.00
05:48:05.500 Two hundred dollars 1.00
05:48:07.340 Ridiculous to what the fuck are you yapping about? 1.00
05:48:10.180 Didn't you say you're waiting till marriage? 1.00
05:48:12.180 you're going to be waiting for a long
05:48:14.540 time cause I don't know what man 0.98
05:48:16.580 is going to put up with your yapping
05:48:18.480 for the record I'm very agreeable
05:48:20.480 in like my relationships I just like debating about
05:48:22.560 things because I thought this
05:48:24.220 is what this was
05:48:25.360 I gave you guys a moment there to talk 0.98
05:48:28.560 about fucking the 2024 0.97
05:48:30.520 presidential candidate on the democrat 1.00
05:48:32.620 side frankly I don't give a fuck 1.00
05:48:34.580 about Kamala Harris there's 0.94
05:48:36.340 a million other things we have to get to
05:48:38.260 I want to give other people their time
05:48:40.000 And when I jump in
05:48:41.860 After I already gave you guys the opportunity 0.98
05:48:43.720 To fucking prattle about Kamala Harris 0.99
05:48:45.940 For three, four, five minutes 0.99
05:48:47.380 I'm the host
05:48:48.580 And whether it's
05:48:50.480 Yeah, Andrew just said his piece 0.97
05:48:52.080 Sorry, you don't get to fucking respond 0.98
05:48:54.420 And then you gave me fucking pushback on it 0.99
05:48:57.420 No, I'm asking you 0.99
05:48:59.120 Did I say you yield to me or not?
05:49:02.140 Do you want me to leave?
05:49:03.780 Are you going to answer my 1.00
05:49:04.620 You're a fucking idiot 1.00
05:49:05.640 You're a fucking idiot 1.00
05:49:07.480 Dude, come on. 1.00
05:49:08.360 You didn't even know what the English Civil War was,
05:49:10.060 and you're like 40 years old.
05:49:11.540 All right, out you go. 1.00
05:49:12.540 Get out, bitch. 1.00
05:49:13.560 Get out, you dumb fucking cunt. 1.00
05:49:14.840 Out you fucking go. 1.00
05:49:17.140 Fucking bitch. 1.00
05:49:21.040 Have a good night. 1.00
05:49:26.200 Fucking dumb fucking idiot. 1.00
05:49:28.840 Super disrespectful, bro. 1.00
05:49:30.260 So fucking disrespectful. 0.98
05:49:32.000 I literally let them have the conversation about Kamala Harris, 0.99
05:49:35.460 and then I'm like,
05:49:36.480 hey guys, Andrew's here for a limited time. Kamala Harris, nah, no talking. Out she fucking
05:49:42.320 goes. Out you fucking go. Get her the fuck out. I wanted to move it on. I don't think I was overly 1.00
05:49:48.620 rude there with my interjection. I wanted to move it on. Andrew's here for a limited time. Who gives
05:49:53.760 a fuck about Kamala Harris? That's old fucking news. There's other things to get to. In fact, 1.00
05:49:58.040 I was trying to get to her notes. I was trying to get to her notes. So I wasn't trying to cut her
05:50:04.060 off. I just wanted to redirect the 0.99
05:50:05.940 conversation back to something that was
05:50:07.980 a bit more
05:50:08.680 interesting. Nobody cares about Kamala. 0.72
05:50:11.920 Who fucking cares? 0.99
05:50:13.940 When you're trying to do that, though, 0.99
05:50:15.140 No, no, no. No consoling.
05:50:17.020 Out she fucking goes. Hey. 1.00
05:50:19.300 Out she goes. No consoling.
05:50:22.140 Tiffany.
05:50:23.920 It's not your fault.
05:50:25.340 Who said that? Was that Tiffany?
05:50:27.840 I don't know. 1.00
05:50:29.100 Out you fucking go. You asked to 1.00
05:50:31.180 leave, bitch. Out you fucking go. 1.00
05:50:32.980 Holy fuck 1.00
05:50:33.880 Can we 1.00
05:50:38.440 Can you see that she's
05:50:39.580 Hey no no no Tiffany 1.00
05:50:41.400 Where the fuck is Tiffany 1.00
05:50:45.540 What are you fucking doing 1.00
05:50:47.500 Hey can you deal with this security 1.00
05:50:49.660 Out she goes 1.00
05:50:51.020 God damn it 1.00
05:50:55.300 How are you letting a girl enter the fucking bathroom 1.00
05:50:57.720 She's gotta fucking leave 1.00
05:50:59.020 Fuck man 1.00
05:51:00.640 Oh my god 1.00
05:51:03.260 Take your seat.
05:51:04.000 Go ahead.
05:51:06.380 I don't want to sit next to you anyway.
05:51:08.120 You're next.
05:51:09.100 It's happening.
05:51:10.240 You're next.
05:51:10.820 You want to sit next to me?
05:51:12.220 Why not?
05:51:12.960 I'm just teasing you.
05:51:14.860 I don't care.
05:51:17.000 I'm an old man, so I have the old man privilege of just kind of being rude and getting a pass.
05:51:21.300 It's okay.
05:51:22.100 I love it. 1.00
05:51:22.740 Holy fuck, man. 1.00
05:51:23.380 And you're not an old man. 1.00
05:51:28.460 Shall we?
05:51:29.260 I feel like this seat is cursed now.
05:51:31.280 Shall we?
05:51:32.680 I don't even want to stay here.
05:51:33.920 I feel like now he's going to get mad at me.
05:51:36.880 I'm like, this seat.
05:51:37.800 And you're wearing the same color.
05:51:39.160 I know.
05:51:39.680 You're in so much trouble.
05:51:41.160 Remember, I'm a soul.
05:51:42.380 What is soul?
05:51:43.140 Can you tell me where Tiffany is?
05:51:44.640 She took her outside. 0.84
05:51:46.600 To make sure. 1.00
05:51:47.000 Just order her out. 1.00
05:51:48.180 Just order her out. 1.00
05:51:49.060 It should. 0.99
05:51:49.660 The exit is like right there.
05:51:51.760 I don't know.
05:51:51.900 I know.
05:51:52.900 She might take her downstairs.
05:51:55.060 Can you just go check?
05:51:56.400 Yeah. 1.00
05:51:56.540 Because that's not what Tiffany should be fucking doing right now. 1.00
05:51:59.280 Yeah. 1.00
05:52:00.840 Holy fuck, dude. 1.00
05:52:02.680 what the actual fuck dude this is all the fault of armenia oh no thousand percent 1.00
05:52:13.660 she's back it's our fault 1.00
05:52:15.320 i'm awake now ridiculous bro just and this is this is how men will uh basically men can never um 0.77
05:52:28.820 if a man gets upset if if a man will be uh provoked there's no assessment of how the woman 0.99
05:52:40.640 will provoke it's always the man's fault always the fucking man's fault it's actually a fucking 0.99
05:52:47.820 joke i told her repeatedly she was she should have read the room and known she was getting on my 0.99
05:52:54.420 nerves but when you were telling when you were saying you want was i unfair when i was like when
05:53:00.940 i came back and i was like y'all been talking about kamala for long i gotta move it on and then
05:53:05.280 but was she being a little snappy with me when i came back and i'm like i'm gonna move it on
05:53:09.600 and then she instead of deferring to me as the podcast host she's going to give me flack when
05:53:15.920 i'm the one who's trying to move if i want to drop the convo we're going to drop the convo and move
05:53:20.580 it on i'm the host but i and she's perpetually time after time giving me flack i don't know
05:53:27.220 maybe i'm wrong i want you to what do you think that's what i was trying to do that's why i was
05:53:30.620 trying to come back in he told me to interrupt her and i was hoping to make it in time when you 0.99
05:53:36.420 failed us i'm sorry get the fuck 0.99
05:53:39.920 when you were trying to move on andrew was interrupting you 0.99
05:53:50.780 as well well well hang on when you were when you came back 1.00
05:53:55.460 andrew's also drunk as fuck come on that shit what brian may i move one of the dolls onto the 1.00
05:54:00.640 see no okay sorry what the fuck man it's just it's bothering me i don't just leave it go ahead 1.00
05:54:06.280 finish your point that was my point i'm just saying they were being but you realize do you 0.99
05:54:10.720 realize every i don't know if you are self-aware enough i don't know if you're intelligent enough 0.69
05:54:14.720 to realize this every time i ever like i understand sometimes i'm a jerk or rude or whatever 0.71
05:54:21.620 but it's you always divert 0.76
05:54:24.300 to here's how
05:54:26.260 a man is
05:54:27.720 also or not acting
05:54:30.140 appropriately. No, because there was no other men here last
05:54:32.080 time I was here.
05:54:33.560 That's not even a 0.98
05:54:36.000 coherent fucking answer to what I just said. 0.99
05:54:38.320 I was saying you were mad at 0.99
05:54:40.100 her for, I don't know.
05:54:41.640 But what about Andrew, Brian?
05:54:43.900 Well, yeah, you were mad at Mary
05:54:45.560 for doing something that Andrew was also doing.
05:54:48.240 Andrew finished, okay, let's do 0.92
05:54:49.700 do we need to just fucking pull up what happened and watch it again? Andrew basically, I think I 0.90
05:54:55.840 kind of cut him off, but he was kind of trail end of his point. And then she was like, no,
05:55:00.260 but I want to respond. You're not going to let me respond, blah, blah. It's like, I'm the host of
05:55:03.940 the podcast. If I'm going to move it on for the sake of time, since we have limited time with
05:55:08.380 Andrew, we've got limited time in general. She's monopolized the conversation. I told her repeatedly
05:55:13.880 and I made it. I was very strong with her earlier. I laid down the boundary and then she wants to
05:55:19.620 Give me lip. 1.00
05:55:21.420 It's my fucking podcast. 0.99
05:55:22.480 I can also give you a different distinction, which is that I'm not giving the host flack. 0.99
05:55:28.780 I have not one time tonight given the host any flack.
05:55:33.840 It may be true that I didn't immediately concede to what it was he was saying because I was in the middle of an argument.
05:55:39.300 Right.
05:55:39.820 But I didn't direct any ire towards him.
05:55:41.760 Did I do that one time?
05:55:43.000 You did not.
05:55:43.760 What's that?
05:55:44.260 No, you did not.
05:55:44.940 I didn't do it once.
05:55:46.260 So that's a huge distinction.
05:55:48.480 and so but his main point sorry i just well i'm just saying to brian's credit it may be true that
05:55:55.040 he tried to rein me in my job is to make content and my job is to you know push back on worldviews
05:56:02.060 that's what i do um but i have not i was there one time where i looked at brian i was like no 1.00
05:56:08.880 fuck you dude you shut up no did she yes no she's like no fuck you accountability fuck you idiot 1.00
05:56:16.200 Screw you, idiot. 1.00
05:56:17.840 You're a moron. 1.00
05:56:19.180 Like all those things. 1.00
05:56:20.220 I don't think she remembers.
05:56:21.160 You go apologize to her for yelling at her and let's have some accountability. 0.99
05:56:26.120 I need to apologize to her. 0.62
05:56:28.120 You think that that's the total assessment here.
05:56:32.040 First off, let's see. 0.72
05:56:35.280 Did she insult me first or did I insult her first there? 0.97
05:56:41.960 She invoked my first off.
05:56:44.020 I'm not 40, but would you agree that calling someone older than they actually are is insulting?
05:56:51.080 How is she supposed to know how old you are?
05:56:54.020 My, oh my, you, wow.
05:56:59.660 What's the word for what this is?
05:57:02.040 I'm, maybe Andrew, you can help me articulate this.
05:57:06.220 You're going on the defensive.
05:57:08.160 It's in-group preferential bias.
05:57:08.840 Like, it's just massive in-group bias.
05:57:11.940 It's not in-group bias.
05:57:14.020 I love men.
05:57:15.460 Well, do you, too? 1.00
05:57:16.080 You're fucking men. 1.00
05:57:17.080 I'm not. 1.00
05:57:17.880 You're a retard. 1.00
05:57:18.320 There you go. 1.00
05:57:19.100 I'm insulting now.
05:57:20.180 The group is actually smaller for the bias, right?
05:57:23.260 It's like when you're talking about in-group bias, you feel like there's everyone else in the host.
05:57:29.060 And so that's the group, the group distinction.
05:57:32.140 And so you have been moving alongside that particular side of the group. 1.00
05:57:36.500 Because nobody else here is sitting here calling people retarded and idiot. 0.98
05:57:41.960 Actually, that's not the case. 1.00
05:57:43.440 She did. 1.00
05:57:43.700 Y'all being retarded, so. 1.00
05:57:45.180 She did. 0.99
05:57:45.820 She did?
05:57:46.300 Well, she should apologize for that.
05:57:47.780 But even more importantly is like, so what? 1.00
05:57:51.140 I'm like, retards are not even that bad. 0.99
05:57:53.020 I know, but name-calling in general, name-calling is so counterproductive in an argument, in
05:57:58.320 a debate.
05:57:58.760 I'm your divergence there.
05:57:59.720 Why are we name-calling if we're debating facts here?
05:58:02.520 There's no point in doing that.
05:58:03.840 It's just immature and childish. 0.93
05:58:05.560 There's a position of rhetoric, which she was leaning heavily.
05:58:10.020 Definitely gaslighting.
05:58:10.660 She was leaning heavily into rhetoric, and part of the rhetoric also was to be insulting and underhanded.
05:58:17.700 Do you agree that you can be insulting towards a person without saying the insult?
05:58:22.180 Yes.
05:58:22.740 Yeah.
05:58:23.020 Can I have, like, an example?
05:58:24.380 Yeah, sure.
05:58:24.920 Like, if I was like, yeah, okay, okay, okay.
05:58:28.420 Yeah, but.
05:58:28.980 Right, hang on.
05:58:29.980 So, but, what's the insult?
05:58:32.740 It's mockery.
05:58:33.780 Right, exactly.
05:58:35.040 So, the idea.
05:58:35.880 I think I've done that, too, on here.
05:58:37.260 I agree.
05:58:37.660 I'm just saying that 90% of what was going on there was she was mocking Brian.
05:58:44.340 And it was very clear to the audience they felt like it was mockery.
05:58:49.720 It was disrespectful to him as a man and a host.
05:58:53.220 Yeah.
05:58:53.940 But didn't you feel like there was a lot of mockery there?
05:58:58.140 Yeah, belittling, right?
05:58:59.280 Of course.
05:59:00.300 Belittling, mockery, that type of thing.
05:59:02.240 And you can do that without any appearance of mockery.
05:59:05.040 So, for instance, if we just pulled up the text transcript, right, and all you heard was me saying, okay, okay, and the text just said, okay, okay, the observer would be like, well, wait, Andrew didn't do anything wrong there unless they heard it, right?
05:59:23.340 You're not being insecure.
05:59:25.320 She was belittling you, so don't listen to what that person said.
05:59:29.200 The way he reacted was very childish.
05:59:32.100 For some people, it's intense. 0.98
05:59:34.340 Men must accept the directional attacks of women and just completely allow for it. 0.99
05:59:44.360 No, no, no. 0.99
05:59:44.780 No, you can ask someone to leave without. 1.00
05:59:46.580 Women get to be perpetual line steppers. 1.00
05:59:49.240 Women get to be perpetual line steppers in pokers and provoke and provoke and provoke and think that men should just be doormats. 0.94
05:59:58.620 That's not what I'm saying. 0.86
05:59:59.180 That's exactly what you're saying.
06:00:00.140 I'm saying you had every right to ask her to leave
06:00:02.620 Because this is your podcast
06:00:03.960 And you are the host and you make the rules
06:00:06.040 But the way that you reacted
06:00:08.300 I didn't want her to leave 1.00
06:00:09.560 You didn't have to throw a tantrum 1.00
06:00:10.920 I told her she didn't have to leave 0.99
06:00:12.480 You want me to leave?
06:00:13.980 You want me to leave? 1.00
06:00:14.580 And then you said get the fuck out 1.00
06:00:15.960 You didn't know this one thing 1.00
06:00:18.540 And you're fucking old 1.00
06:00:19.500 That's rude 1.00
06:00:21.160 She said I'm 40
06:00:22.660 You're like 27
06:00:24.900 I'm just like a 20
06:00:29.100 that's what you took offense to and not like the other part of it well no it was everything no i'm
06:00:33.660 sure but i was just funny that's what my patience was already dwindled down at that point but then
06:00:38.860 she's gonna go into and i mean she's basically already i'd have to i'd have to re-watch the 0.99
06:00:43.720 every time you're gonna be embarrassed you're gonna be embarrassed for everything you fucking 0.92
06:00:49.320 say no i've re-watched these clips and just say it that's why you're on the podcast 0.99
06:00:55.640 I re-watched it with my friends too
06:00:58.720 Yeah, all your friends
06:01:01.020 Okay, great, all your friends think this 1.00
06:01:02.740 All the viewers think you're a fucking idiot 1.00
06:01:04.580 Not all of them, but okay 1.00
06:01:06.060 All the viewers think you're a fucking Muppet 0.99
06:01:08.060 You got people in your clips where you try to make me look bad 1.00
06:01:11.440 That still think I'm smarter than you
06:01:12.840 Maybe if she drank this
06:01:13.920 Yeah, I highly doubt that 1.00
06:01:15.380 Go check the comments on your TikTok 1.00
06:01:17.520 She didn't even drink any of the alcohol 0.95
06:01:19.260 I don't think she needed it 1.00
06:01:21.100 I think she needs a Xanny to calm down a little bit 1.00
06:01:25.040 Jesus Christ. 1.00
06:01:25.740 I'm insecure, and that just hurt my feelings.
06:01:28.340 Now you have to apologize.
06:01:29.920 For what?
06:01:30.600 For all the horrible things you're saying about insecure people like me.
06:01:34.800 Sorry.
06:01:35.900 Say it again.
06:01:39.540 He's like, wait, do it again.
06:01:41.780 I didn't hear you.
06:01:43.120 I didn't hear that the first time.
06:01:44.760 You have to alleviate my insecurity by apologizing.
06:01:49.760 Matter of fact, say it in this language again.
06:01:52.260 All right, that was really funny.
06:01:53.500 I got to admit, that was funny.
06:01:54.740 you're a good sport
06:01:55.880 that was funny
06:01:57.580 alright
06:02:00.140 well I guess on to the
06:02:02.320 to the new thing
06:02:05.100 here then
06:02:05.520 oh my god don't scare me like that 1.00
06:02:09.340 now they're going to say shit about her 0.99
06:02:10.900 you're going to think they're talking about you 0.98
06:02:13.020 it's a pleasure to meet all of you
06:02:14.820 wait so we're all leaving
06:02:16.140 I'll stand up
06:02:19.240 to shake your hand
06:02:20.060 we didn't even get to really argue today
06:02:21.720 we did all that yesterday
06:02:23.380 Thank you. Have a good night.
06:02:25.620 Get home safe.
06:02:26.800 See you later, Crucible Crew.
06:02:27.660 You get home safe, too.
06:02:28.540 Mr. Enigmatic, raid into the whatever podcast, please.
06:02:31.860 Thank you, Mr. E. Appreciate that.
06:02:33.460 Have a great night, everybody.
06:02:34.980 Good night. Get home safe.
06:02:37.080 Both of you, get home safe.
06:02:41.000 Alright, let's see if we have any chats here.
06:02:43.980 Bye.
06:02:45.220 Have a good night.
06:02:48.100 Alright, let's see if...
06:02:50.680 Here, I'm going to have you read these.
06:02:52.120 quite a few went came through so uh i think this is where we left off chad i don't know if we did
06:02:59.000 this one but why not question loading just and assumed a conclusion in a premise andrew is very
06:03:06.280 good at question formulation he is not assuming conclusions in his premise you are being bad
06:03:11.180 faith and that's what's annoying all right thank you chad for that appreciate it uh base thor one
06:03:18.900 came we have snapjack thank you appreciate it can you read it oh sorry brian you're good
06:03:26.820 we're here with you say it with me
06:03:29.760 thank you for the sound effect i was like what is that uh all right we have snapjack here 0.94
06:03:39.740 if you can read this one andrew look looking like a fucking stud tonight my dude rachel is 0.86
06:03:46.700 lucky woman no homo no homo uh hey thank you man appreciate it uh thank you for the messages and 0.97
06:03:55.500 as a reminder guys ten dollar display hundred dollar read two hundred dollar tts all right let
06:04:04.420 me uh get into let me blast through all our all the pre-show notes blast through the questionnaire
06:04:09.960 and then hopefully it's not a particularly late show since the panel is a bit smaller
06:04:15.640 less notes to get through there's still a bunch of hers um that were actually insane that's why i
06:04:22.400 are much more interesting than kamala that's why i wanted to move it on but um anyways uh let's see
06:04:32.760 hold on let me pull up the rest of the notes uh i guess some questions for you
06:04:37.140 we did most of yours but to finish off uh can you hide that please the tts thing
06:04:42.180 uh do you think children under the age of 18 should be allowed to have puberty blockers
06:04:50.360 no okay um are trans women women trans women are trans women okay is wrong not to use someone's
06:05:01.020 preferred pronouns
06:05:01.860 is it transphobic if you're doing it on purpose then i would say it's it's just kind of you're 0.89
06:05:11.420 not doing it ignorant arrogant you're not doing it maliciously but you refuse to acknowledge that
06:05:16.300 a man can be a woman therefore you don't use the uh pronouns um it's it's really easy to just use
06:05:27.200 someone's correct pronouns so i mean i don't really the they them is kind of something because
06:05:32.860 like that's like breaking grammar rules so it's a little bit iffy on that one but if somebody just
06:05:39.900 wants the opposite pronoun i don't see why it would be so hard to respect that why should we
06:05:44.760 not have immigration enforcement because i feel like the police can take care of it
06:05:50.400 um ice is law enforcement it is wait i don't understand so you want police to like apprehend
06:06:04.140 not because they're committing like a robbery or something but you just want the police
06:06:10.260 to go out and find illegal immigrants do i have that correct um i i don't feel like
06:06:19.060 immigrants need to be deported for the sole reason of being an illegal immigrant i think
06:06:23.940 that if they're a criminal yeah they should automatically be deported but what if it's a 1.00
06:06:27.860 crime so if it's a crime to illegally cross the border but if there's a crime on top of that
06:06:33.460 Even as small as a speeding ticket, we can say.
06:06:36.860 Wait, really?
06:06:37.840 Yeah.
06:06:38.380 I mean, what?
06:06:39.180 If you're going to...
06:06:39.740 A speeding ticket to port, that's your...
06:06:42.720 I mean, yeah.
06:06:43.340 If you're going to deport them regardless, at least wait until they do a minor crime before.
06:06:49.840 You know?
06:06:50.200 I feel like that's fair.
06:06:51.180 Thank you for the crucible raid.
06:06:52.200 Appreciate it.
06:06:52.640 Good to see you guys over here.
06:06:54.580 Thank you for that.
06:06:55.760 Appreciate it, guys.
06:06:59.640 Okay.
06:07:00.340 So, just open borders, basically.
06:07:02.520 anyone can come here and there should there's no punishment yeah yeah and do you think that that's
06:07:10.280 like a good idea have you thought that through no because well yeah but like they would they 0.71
06:07:17.700 obviously wouldn't be able to get jobs if they come here illegally they get jobs how
06:07:24.240 bro well like if they don't have proper documentation so just just so i understand
06:07:33.240 your position correctly the like 20 i think the number is like 20 million it might be higher
06:07:38.460 the 20 plus million illegal immigrants here are unemployed and don't have jobs yeah i guess you're
06:07:44.720 right yeah i guess i'm right yeah being accountable so how how do they get like how do they get jobs 0.99
06:07:52.220 I'm curious, because I actually don't know how that all works out.
06:07:58.880 How do they get jobs?
06:08:00.300 I mean, I'm not really interested in exploring that.
06:08:02.160 I'm interested in exploring your position on immigration.
06:08:07.000 So just anyone can come here.
06:08:09.280 So, yeah.
06:08:11.260 Well, I guess this is somewhat aligned with your anti-natalist perspective,
06:08:15.180 because you think it's selfish to have children,
06:08:17.600 so the cost of living doesn't really matter to you.
06:08:22.220 um, as much as it would like somebody who's trying to start a family or does have a family,
06:08:27.680 uh, where they not only have to consider themselves, but the wellbeing of their spouse,
06:08:33.280 the wellbeing of their children. So I guess this is somewhat in line. You just are in favor of
06:08:37.600 complete chaos and the destruction of our economy. And I guess that makes a lot of sense. Um,
06:08:44.080 yeah so okay um so should we just import all of india into the united states no they want to come
06:08:56.040 here but should we front the cost to like bring them here i don't think i'm saying like full
06:09:02.460 full open borders i but i do think it should be a lot easier to come here a lot easier my sister
06:09:10.120 is her husband is not he's from he's Costa Rican native and they've been married for about four
06:09:17.340 years now and he still has not been able to come here that's an issue they're married with two
06:09:22.220 children um and and I'm saying I'm just saying it should be a lot easier for immigrants to come
06:09:30.980 here legally it should not take four years after being married yeah I completely disagree like we
06:09:36.620 we already are not in a good economic position uh as is i'm in favor of at least until we can get
06:09:44.100 the illegal immigration in control i'm fine with declining rates of even legal uh immigration
06:09:52.200 but that aside making it easier for illegal immigrants uh that still doesn't really speak
06:10:00.600 to the fact of what we should do with people who come here illegally which in your case is just 0.99
06:10:05.640 like fuck hey whatever just let them fucking blah um you live in minnesota do you live alone 0.99
06:10:11.280 you have your own house or no i live with my parents still live with your parents is there 1.00
06:10:15.120 an open bedroom in your house yes how many open bedrooms how many uh how many bedrooms how many
06:10:21.560 baths oh it's oh it's like a lot um a lot it's actually crazy it must be really high five bedroom
06:10:34.480 five bath. Is it in a nice neighborhood? Yeah. It's a small neighborhood. What do your parents
06:10:41.020 do for work? My dad owns his own construction company and my mom sells tombstones. Would you
06:10:47.320 say like upper middle class or upper class? Upper middle. I mean, five bedroom, five bath house.
06:10:53.700 My town is population 2000, so real estate is very cheap. I see. And also my house did not
06:10:59.580 start out like that. My dad remodeled it. Sure. How many bedrooms are open in your house?
06:11:03.340 um so it's just one is open right now okay why aren't you housing uh immigrants um we have done
06:11:12.780 we have had like exchange students we've also done foster care wait wait wait wait so we have
06:11:17.680 done that and do they pay you the exchange students usually sometimes they do i think
06:11:22.720 uh it depends like there's host families that will it depends it obviously depends but host
06:11:32.300 families will receive some stipends for
06:11:34.300 whatever. Oh, really? My parents also have
06:11:36.280 very different views on immigration from myself,
06:11:38.600 so I don't make the rules in the house.
06:11:40.160 Okay, so they, well, okay, I guess it's not your
06:11:42.260 house, it's not your call.
06:11:43.820 If you were to move out, would you 1.00
06:11:46.440 house an illegal immigrant 1.00
06:11:48.380 in your house? If I met them 1.00
06:11:50.460 organically? Yeah. Like rent-free
06:11:52.640 though, because obviously they don't have any money.
06:11:54.620 Rent-free? Fuck no. Actually, 1.00
06:11:56.480 for a few months. Yeah, probably
06:11:58.520 for a few months, rent-free. 0.99
06:12:00.140 okay I'm fucking 0.98
06:12:02.420 I'm holding you to this 0.99
06:12:03.960 I'm holding you to this
06:12:05.900 as soon as you move out of your parents house
06:12:08.400 you're going to house 1.00
06:12:10.060 an illegal immigrant for a few months 1.00
06:12:12.440 if I have space
06:12:14.020 what do you mean if you have space
06:12:16.180 if I have another bedroom
06:12:17.380 that's really selfish of you
06:12:18.840 in fact you should sleep
06:12:20.720 I'm not afraid to admit that
06:12:23.560 you should sleep on the couch and they get your bedroom
06:12:25.900 how dare you talk to me like this 1.00
06:12:28.140 with your white female privilege 1.00
06:12:29.840 your white citizen privilege it's fucking insane i guess i'm selfish yeah super selfish um in any 1.00
06:12:37.760 case it's just interesting i'm not afraid to admit that i'm also selfish yeah um like most human 0.99
06:12:42.380 beings are brian go ahead may i ask you a question yeah can you uh center your mic and tilt it down
06:12:49.020 of course um how do you feel about immigration through like waiting lists kind of like what i
06:12:55.880 came through they had to do a whole process background check it was like a waiting list
06:12:59.960 and they funded everything for me and my family to come yeah um i don't what's i don't know what's
06:13:06.640 how do i feel what's the question like how do you feel about that kind of like immigration
06:13:10.600 i mean legal immigration i'm much more open-minded about i'm if you come here legally i'm more open
06:13:17.240 minded to that i think there should be some limitation just because i feel like right now
06:13:21.420 there's a lot of issues in this country and i think people are struggling economically i think
06:13:28.080 there's the rent prices are crazy people are delaying starting families one of which because
06:13:34.800 probably the biggest thing is the economic reality out there and part of that is hey these legal and 0.94
06:13:43.640 illegal immigrants they're not homeless they're occupying housing stock that could go to american 0.99
06:13:49.300 citizens and so i think we really like the the housing prices are insane rent prices are insane 0.89
06:13:57.780 and that's not just to be clear it's not just because of immigration but that's a part of it
06:14:02.400 that's a big part of it and then for us what it was we came in 2012 and we weren't allowed to take
06:14:07.900 the citizenship test till 2019 so they if you do anything illegal then they deport you kind of like
06:14:13.940 that's kind of how it was we were on a visa and they would have revoked it if during that spam
06:14:18.020 of time we did anything criminally and they would have just sent us back yeah but i'm not
06:14:22.960 suggesting if you've come here legally i wouldn't say uh we should send you back or revoke your
06:14:29.140 legal uh immigration status i'm speaking specifically about illegal immigration
06:14:34.100 uh this is what i have a problem with she is just like i don't think she's really 0.99
06:14:38.600 thought about it much she's just like she's just like suicidal empathy and basically wants this 0.97
06:14:44.760 country gigafucked um so i would like for people to be able to uh afford houses start family sooner 0.68
06:14:52.180 overpopulated we're not with illegal immigrants oh well that might be true um anyways i'm gonna 0.96
06:14:57.780 move off of that um all right so she's just like once uh but let me ask you a question 0.84
06:15:02.960 let's say uh like half of india wanted to move here um should we allow for that and say i mean
06:15:11.980 there's two components should we fund them coming here like because no okay but um let's say um
06:15:19.040 half of indians had the means to come here and we're just like yeah you guys can come should we
06:15:23.800 do it should we allow for that yeah great so um what's the population of india it's like one
06:15:31.500 point something billion yeah okay so basically you do entire demographic replacement of the
06:15:37.400 entire united states of india make it here on their own well in the hypothetical i'm saying
06:15:41.780 they have the means to get here but no i'm not sure but um uh there's a lot of poverty in india 0.98
06:15:49.560 but in the hypothetical so you basically want to import 600 million indians like you'd be okay
06:15:56.500 with it i mean yeah i mean i mean what it's just land seriously like why are you are you being
06:16:05.060 serious like you actually think it would be feasible for us to just like say over the course
06:16:11.140 of one year we allow 600 million indians into this country you think that that's going to go 1.00
06:16:17.480 well i mean probably not but i'm not going to be pressed about it because it's literally just land 0.96
06:16:23.060 yeah so so when there's mass riots in the street and your five bedroom five bathroom house very
06:16:31.440 privileged by the way thank you uh gets fucking ransacked in riots it's you're not going to feel 0.67
06:16:38.920 oppressed about that those people would get deported if they're is she serious guys 0.97
06:16:46.080 that's my that was my take on it we need to get rid of universal suffrage because this woman's vote 0.97
06:16:56.420 cancels out my vote this is actually fucking insane so i actually voted red last time and 0.95
06:17:02.640 i live in a blue state so my vote didn't but you you have pro uh illegal immigration sentiment 0.93
06:17:08.100 so conceivably you would vote for a politician who's like yeah open borders let them all in
06:17:15.280 we're going i also might vote for one that doesn't think that because i always weigh out
06:17:19.960 all of their beliefs i don't really i don't somebody i'm sorry i don't care how republican 0.91
06:17:25.360 or wait let me let's assume like a perfect politician like they're fucking amazing and
06:17:30.960 super perfect but one of their platform is if you elect me i'm going to import 600 million 0.66
06:17:37.700 indians into the country no import no okay because i i don't think no we're not gonna fund 0.86
06:17:43.300 it we're not gonna their own then yes what that what i mean by import here you're getting stuck
06:17:47.960 on a relevant word i used what i mean by import is we're going to allow them to come in 600 million
06:17:55.320 of them they have to get here on their own means but we're not going to stop them just come on in
06:18:01.420 would you vote for him sure but they're going to be the ones living on the streets would would
06:18:06.700 you is that okay would you vote for that guy who's a perfect politician except for this one thing
06:18:12.920 um probably yeah yeah they're gonna be the ones living on the streets like i don't know why
06:18:21.260 they'd want to come here if there's no space for them oh my god dude 0.80
06:18:25.240 i used such a ridiculous the entire world population can fit in the state of texas with
06:18:32.500 It's like a mile of square foot to each person or something like that. 0.80
06:18:36.640 I use such a ridiculous number, 600 million.
06:18:41.900 Do you know what the population of the United States is? 0.89
06:18:44.080 I don't.
06:18:45.760 It's under 400 million.
06:18:47.300 It's like 300, what is it?
06:18:48.940 Let me Google it.
06:18:49.660 Let me Google it.
06:18:50.440 It's like 380, wait, hold on.
06:18:53.600 USA population, it's like between.
06:18:56.240 We genuinely would be fine. 0.99
06:18:57.840 Sorry, 342 million, 342 million.
06:19:01.220 Because in square miles, the United States is, like, triple the size of India. 0.94
06:19:05.720 And they have, like, triple the people. 0.75
06:19:07.860 So, we'd really be fine when you think about it.
06:19:12.760 And are you being serious right now? 0.99
06:19:14.800 I mean, the job market and shit would, like, crash for a little bit. 0.98
06:19:18.160 But I doubt all 600 million of them would come on the exact same day. 0.98
06:19:22.820 Well, I said over a year.
06:19:25.760 Yeah?
06:19:26.340 Can you build 300 million houses?
06:19:29.220 No, but like I said, they're going to be living on the streets if they all want to come on the same time. 1.00
06:19:33.940 You think that's a good idea to have illegal immigrants? 1.00
06:19:37.340 What do you women, like, I don't know, you guys are a little quiet here. 0.99
06:19:40.600 Do you think it'd be a good idea over the course of a year to import, like, bring in 600 million Indians? 1.00
06:19:47.720 No. 1.00
06:19:48.140 Like, 600 million anybody, by the way.
06:19:50.920 I'm sorry, like, yeah. 0.78
06:19:51.380 This isn't an India thing.
06:19:52.820 600 million anybody.
06:19:54.100 Anybody, yeah.
06:19:55.020 Anybody. 0.96
06:19:55.620 White, black, Indian, Asian. 0.63
06:19:57.860 that's not gonna go well it's not it probably won't but i really it's already hard to get a
06:20:03.760 job right now you really don't care no you're just so you're kind of privileged because look
06:20:08.500 it's already so hard to get a job housing it's crazy guys it's yeah but like some of us don't
06:20:15.060 want to move to minnesota this is what's the right word for this antipathy apathy like y'all 1.00
06:20:20.320 live in california and it's it's it is yeah all the illegal immigrants are coming here 0.99
06:20:25.440 shit's expensive out here yeah because all the illegal immigrants are coming here 1.00
06:20:29.300 that's why it's getting expensive yeah but you're it's easy for you to say there's no 1.00
06:20:33.340 illegal immigrants coming to minnesota it's actually a lot of illegal immigrants nobody 0.96
06:20:37.420 ever tell me again that i make women look stupid what you've just i gotta play a sound i don't 1.00
06:20:44.980 think what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things i have ever heard 1.00
06:20:50.440 at no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be 1.00
06:20:58.360 considered a rational thought everyone in this room all right is now dumber for having listened 0.94
06:21:04.420 to it i award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul may god have mercy because
06:21:12.500 i wouldn't give up i don't even really want to live in the united states forever where do you
06:21:17.120 want to live i i think i might go down to costa rica too that's where my sister's been living
06:21:22.020 okay all right um i'm gonna move it on off of that uh okay we have wait aubrey oh i moved people
06:21:29.520 around okay so it's gonna be aubrey assol let's go to jamila jamila jamila you said it right
06:21:39.880 yesterday jamila okay men should pay on first dates well you did parentheses if they asked
06:21:44.960 Yeah, I think you ask men on first dates. OK, so. OK, but I do think if a woman asks a man out, she shouldn't assume he's going to pay because you're the one who initiated the date.
06:21:55.200 Yeah, but like. Overwhelmingly, women don't ask. No, that's fine. But that's that's my standard. Who asks? 0.99
06:22:02.080 All right. You say men should provide protect. Men should be chivalrous. You're going to keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage. Why is that?
06:22:15.640 So I think it's actually, like, disrespectful to your lineage and your father.
06:22:18.940 Necessarily, your father's the one who raised you and then to take on someone's name.
06:22:22.080 I also have degrees, so I don't really know if I want to then go back and, like, change my name on my degrees and things like that.
06:22:27.640 You wouldn't have to, though.
06:22:29.240 I mean, that's fair, but I also don't know if I want to just take somebody's name.
06:22:32.900 You do want to get married, though, yeah?
06:22:34.760 Mm-hmm.
06:22:35.520 Okay.
06:22:36.300 Now, what about the kids?
06:22:40.900 Oh, no, I think you said—
06:22:42.660 I'm fine with the kids having his last name.
06:22:43.920 But you wouldn't do it.
06:22:44.960 No, not personally.
06:22:45.860 But wouldn't you agree that it is...
06:22:47.280 I'm not against hyphenating.
06:22:49.840 Would he have to hyphenate too?
06:22:51.540 Uh-oh.
06:22:52.560 So you would hyphenate, he wouldn't. 0.50
06:22:54.060 I don't mind.
06:22:54.680 But wouldn't you agree that it is the traditional thing for a woman to take the husband's last name? 0.89
06:22:59.780 Sure.
06:23:00.960 So why do you hold men to a traditional standard?
06:23:04.680 Men should pay on dates, men should provide protect, men should be chivalrous. 1.00
06:23:08.580 What should women do? 0.99
06:23:09.520 Just because you have some views of certain traditional values doesn't mean that you necessarily hold all views of traditional values.
06:23:17.200 And I think that's fair. That's sometimes an argument I make myself.
06:23:20.620 But it seems like taking the last name is fairly benign.
06:23:26.640 Elaborate. What do you mean by that? Oh, go ahead.
06:23:28.040 yeah so taking the last name it requires to filing in the court system and it's it's a
06:23:37.600 pretty simple process and actually uh recently in the news the trump administration um made it
06:23:45.500 apparently way easier to just get like everything changed in one uniform place previously you had
06:23:53.660 to go to the different like departments and let them know about the name change or whatever now
06:23:58.720 it's just uniform but then you know you have to change credit cards and uh get a new driver's
06:24:04.700 license this sort of thing right it takes a bit of time but overall it's it's not that time
06:24:10.160 intensive okay so yeah go ahead so um no i mean i don't think marriage overtakes my identity
06:24:17.480 necessarily so i'm okay with not doing it yeah all right um let's see here uh you also say that
06:24:25.760 women do not have equal rights to men in the usa yes uh why is that uh i would say primarily
06:24:33.660 probably abortion laws state by state okay um is there anything besides abortion
06:24:39.920 as to women not having equal rights i would say there's nothing but that's the main one that
06:24:47.140 comes to mind i'm not going to say there's nothing else but i would say in america that's the main
06:24:50.980 issue of women's rights if i gave you 10 seconds to just ponder on it 1.00
06:24:54.480 um is there anything that might come to mind well i mean yes there is a law that women and
06:25:03.820 men should be paid equally but is there really any um enforcement of that law i would say that
06:25:09.720 is yeah it is enforced but elaborate well if you can demonstrate that a corporation is underpaying
06:25:15.820 you uh you can bring a what will be a assuming it's like actually true you'll lawyers will be
06:25:24.600 salivating to take your case because it'll make good money but would you not argue well would you
06:25:30.340 not agree with the fact that there are a lot of variables that people could bring up in terms of
06:25:35.720 oh well i decided to pay this person more maybe because of negotiation or maybe because of um this
06:25:41.380 reason and this much experience or maybe because they came from this certain company so i think
06:25:46.560 the case could actually be a little bit harder to prove um than what you're stating i think there's
06:25:53.700 a lot of loopholes when it may have actually been on the basis of yeah but if men are more likely to
06:25:59.180 negotiate then this this has nothing to do with rights it's not that the employer is strictly
06:26:05.980 discriminating against women. It's just women are, are not operating to the same degree men are
06:26:12.060 much like men go into certain fields. Men are more likely to work overtime. Men are more likely to 0.64
06:26:17.640 work more hours than women. These are choices men make and women don't. And so this, this doesn't 1.00
06:26:23.420 speak to rights. It speaks to behavior. I wouldn't necessarily agree with that point, but I also
06:26:30.040 don't have super. What do you disagree with? So say your last part again. That's well, I mean,
06:26:35.160 here we'll do just one one at a time so men work more overtime you disagree with that i'm not
06:26:41.480 necessarily sure that might be true okay well i mean we have pretty i've never looked at it so
06:26:46.380 i'll agree with you in a general sense sure yeah if you if you take my word for it the the labor
06:26:51.040 statistics will show that men work more hours on average they work more overtime on average
06:26:56.340 they work more hazard pay on average they're more likely to relocate on average they're more likely
06:27:01.240 the work graveyard shift on average. They're more likely to relocate to really undesirable places
06:27:08.520 on average. They're more likely to do undesirable and difficult and dangerous and dirty jobs on
06:27:14.520 average as compared to women. And so some of these jobs tend to pay more. Yeah. So also when we talk 1.00
06:27:20.340 about enforcement, your idea of enforcement was a woman then hiring a lawyer and suing the company.
06:27:27.320 You know, that's more so self-advocacy rather than law enforcement, where there are certain things put into companies where, hey, we're regularly checking, you know, what you're paying men and what you're paying women, and we are caring about the discrepancies, and there will be fines against you or certain things against you.
06:27:44.480 So when I talk about enforcement, I more so mean it in that sense.
06:27:48.520 Enforcement? I'm a bit confused here.
06:27:51.740 I'm not really completely following what you're trying to say.
06:27:54.880 so when i said yes there is like an equal pay pay act right or equal opportunity act whatever
06:28:01.960 tiffany can you pull up infographics and it's just one up men have gained no jobs since trump
06:28:07.060 took office i mean there's all kinds of gaps that we can talk about we're talking about the wage gap
06:28:11.300 now um i would actually argue it seems like women overall are doing a lot a lot better here um
06:28:18.540 so pull that up so i mean forget wage let's just talk about who's getting jobs so this is um men
06:28:29.820 have gained no acute cumulative change in non-farm employment thousands since december 2024 by gender
06:28:38.500 so women is um blue green i can't really tell and then men men have gained no jobs
06:28:47.120 okay well i think this accounts plus a negative right in total okay um well this is like a huge
06:28:55.780 gap nobody's talking about um and i think there's a bunch of wage gaps that like are
06:29:01.320 like you could argue impact men okay sure i'm not gonna die on that hill sure i'll concede go ahead
06:29:08.900 Oh, OK. I mean, I guess I would just say that anecdotally for myself, if I was a woman who had like a somewhat provocative podcast with my level of viewership and I was kind of like more on the feminist side instead of more on the like men's right side, I would be the opportunities available to me as a woman would actually be greater than the opportunities that I'm afforded in my current position.
06:29:37.120 so like for example um this is somewhat related to what we're talking about earlier uh related to
06:29:44.580 the prominence and prevalence of misogyny versus misandry so what i was saying like if i tomorrow
06:29:51.940 if i released a video saying i hate men or if excuse me if i released a video i don't hate men
06:29:58.600 but and i don't hate women either but if i released a video tomorrow that was like um on 1.00
06:30:03.680 tiktok i hate women women are trash women suck um not all women but always a woman um women need 0.99
06:30:10.540 curfews blah blah all this shit right um instantly lose my account instantly banned video instantly 1.00
06:30:17.780 taken down women who put up videos i hate men and i've seen a lot especially after this cornell 0.99
06:30:25.640 seven shit this has really ignited women's misandry this cornell seven stuff uh like i've 0.98
06:30:31.800 really it's it's it's fucking bad out there right now uh the misandry um no problems videos get 0.99
06:30:39.100 stay up they're up nothing happens to them and so i see drew i'll follow i see color daddy i see 0.91
06:30:48.380 podcasts that are smaller than mine getting serious xm deals getting multi-million dollar podcast
06:30:54.080 deals when i have higher viewership when when you'll you'll have podcasters who are getting
06:31:00.240 female podcasters who are getting multi-million spotify deals multi-million um uh serious xm 0.94
06:31:08.120 deals all kinds of deals and they're misandrous they're they they're basically the the female 0.96
06:31:13.500 versions of me they're talking about dating and relationships and uh talking about men in the same
06:31:19.080 way that you might say i talk about women they get brand sponsorships they get deals i i'm a brand
06:31:26.060 risk. Literally I've been told this, I'm a brand risk. And hey, maybe that might be true. But my
06:31:33.360 issue is either I should not be a brand risk and I should also be able to receive a level of
06:31:39.900 sponsorship that's commensurate to the women who I think, the women on social media, who are way
06:31:46.060 more hateful than you would even allege I am. And by the way, I don't concern myself as a misogynist.
06:31:53.460 I don't hate women. I think women are great. I disagree with feminism. I disagree with some
06:31:59.920 women, but I would never sit here and ever, I'd never say that I hate women. 1.00
06:32:06.320 These women, and I'll let you come in and I'm going here. These women have massive opportunities. 1.00
06:32:13.240 I just did a segment on my ex where a woman was getting major sponsorships and she had videos on 1.00
06:32:20.000 or tiktok i hate men i hate men i hate men target walmart uh me uh like i can't remember the exact 0.97
06:32:27.900 brand like think major major brands that wouldn't fucking touch me with like ever deal with me and 0.99
06:32:35.920 i've never said anything as bad as i hate women never said it but these women who say i hate men 0.94
06:32:42.800 on social media all the opportunities come to men because it's not like a huge brand risk because
06:32:49.520 there's no pushback against misandry. So wage gap. I have my own anecdotal experience that women
06:32:57.920 actually have quite a bit of privilege. Go ahead. Oh, you go ahead. Yeah. Okay. Um, all right. So 1.00
06:33:03.720 when you talk about, uh, you know, a woman can post a video, well, actually let me not even start
06:33:08.880 there. So earlier you and Andrew essentially made the case for men are bigger, faster, stronger,
06:33:13.300 correct you would agree with that yeah okay yeah so the reason can you logically understand that 0.79
06:33:19.980 the reason why a woman can say that she hates men on a public platform and not necessarily be
06:33:26.240 reprimanded in the same way as a man is because women do not pose the same danger to men that
06:33:31.240 women that sorry women do not pose the same danger to men as men do to women please let me finish
06:33:36.560 Men are responsible for almost 80% of all violent crimes in the U.S.
06:33:41.780 That is 2026 data.
06:33:43.860 And they were also 93% of convicted sexual assaults were men.
06:33:48.600 So if we're looking at the legitimate statistics, and you yourself agree, men are bigger, faster, stronger. 0.82
06:33:53.740 If a woman says, I hate men, what true risk does she pose to men rather than making him feel a certain way?
06:34:00.500 But when a man says, I hate women, that could be a true risk to her life.
06:34:04.980 Yeah. 1.00
06:34:05.480 Yeah.
06:34:06.120 Yeah. So, yeah, you're such a fucking feminist. Yeah. So first off, what the fuck? First off that first off, I reject your entire paradigm. But what does that have to do with anything I've said? So if the standard is so just to be clear, your argument is it's OK to be a misandrist. 1.00
06:34:26.640 No, no, no. I'm not saying that it's okay necessarily, but I'm saying I can understand why people may view one as a liability more compared to another. I think there are also brands that would not want to work with women who say, I hate men publicly. They may not be the ones that you're specifically talking about, but I disagree with the fact that.
06:34:43.560 They're more likely to be willing to work with a woman who has this anti-male sentiment. 0.83
06:34:47.900 And that's fine. 0.66
06:34:48.860 But can you agree that that may also be partly because men pose a greater physical danger to women than women do to men?
06:34:56.800 Because that is a view that you hold.
06:34:58.760 Yeah, but I don't see if the logic here is saying these things is wrong, is bad.
06:35:06.960 the downstream potential effects of it frankly i think would be irrelevant in this case
06:35:13.620 the downstream effects of what specifically well i mean look um you didn't want to bite on this in
06:35:19.720 the debate with andrew yesterday if i could demonstrate that certain racial demographics
06:35:23.560 pose a greater uh threat well then you're gonna have to bite the bullet on that too so for example 0.97
06:35:29.620 black people commit more crimes i think a lot of people in the u.s do that well hold on so if your 0.98
06:35:36.140 your argument is men commit these crimes more often than women do what's stopping someone from 0.94
06:35:42.600 saying doing a racial uh intersectional racial paradigm shift with your argument and saying well 0.67
06:35:50.500 hold on uh per capita black people commit this crime even more so then so then you would have
06:35:59.980 to argue that okay if we're doing a hierarchy of like it's bad to be sexist or racist fine okay 0.92
06:36:06.180 women don't perpetuate this crime as frequently as men do so it's like a bit more okay for women to
06:36:11.860 be uh sexist towards men and then well okay but men are more dangerous so therefore it's more 0.90
06:36:18.060 acceptable but then you have this somewhat interesting phenomenon where well okay black 0.93
06:36:23.120 people commit this crime more often than white people do but then it goes right back to whoa 0.75
06:36:29.460 it's really optically bad i would probably argue um i'm not sure what is optically worse to be
06:36:37.160 racist or to be uh to be racist against black people or to be sexist against women um i'll
06:36:44.260 just say they're probably like perceived somewhat on the same level some might argue it's like worse 0.96
06:36:50.140 to be sexist against women some might say it's more like worse to be racist against black people
06:36:54.560 but like you would have to grant then that it should actually be like less bad to be racist
06:37:01.540 because black people commit this crime more frequently so i think there's a lot of variables
06:37:05.780 in there that are being ignored though the fact that black people had to fight for their rights 0.98
06:37:09.560 their right to vote their right to be treated equally the fact the fact that black people on
06:37:14.060 average get longer prison sentences than their white counterparts for the same crime wait but
06:37:18.020 But this without, wait, wait, the prison component, men also, wait, the distinction between prison sentences between white and black, perhaps it exists.
06:37:29.500 You would then have to analyze the prison sentences between men and women.
06:37:35.000 And the discrepancy between black and white, I'm just going to say, say if we're looking at it like severity between one and ten, say it's a three.
06:37:42.380 The discrepancy in prison sentences between men and women would be a ten.
06:37:47.140 Now these are random numbers I'm giving
06:37:48.920 That's not necessarily true
06:37:50.200 I have some data to show you that it's not
06:37:52.700 Hold on
06:37:54.200 Men get worse 1.00
06:37:57.420 Much like you would say black people 1.00
06:37:59.460 Get worse prison sentences than white people 1.00
06:38:01.580 For the same crime 1.00
06:38:02.460 It's more pronounced that 0.99
06:38:04.960 Men get worse prison sentences than women
06:38:07.740 So there's a lot of confounding
06:38:09.400 There's a lot of factors here
06:38:11.360 Depends very heavily on the situation
06:38:13.120 And what about Italian Americans
06:38:15.500 Are they white?
06:38:16.320 They face discrimination.
06:38:21.800 Okay.
06:38:22.940 Abuse victims charged with murder had higher conviction rates and longer sentences than other homicide defendants.
06:38:30.100 Men who kill get lighter sentences than men who kill partners. 0.67
06:38:35.500 Sorry.
06:38:35.740 Men who kill partners get lighter sentences than men who kill strangers.
06:38:38.560 So it also is very situational based on whether you were in a relationship or not, whether this was somebody who you did not know.
06:38:44.640 So there are many variables considering whether men actually get higher prison sentences.
06:38:49.960 That doesn't respond to my point, though, about the fact that men get higher prison sentences than women.
06:38:56.360 And that's just...
06:38:57.400 I just described to you a scenario where they don't.
06:38:59.540 No, you were comparing men to men.
06:39:03.840 No, here, look.
06:39:04.900 You said, tell me if this is correct.
06:39:07.040 Men who kill strangers receive less harsh...
06:39:11.420 Less harsh...
06:39:13.920 No, no, no.
06:39:14.380 Wait.
06:39:14.640 men who kill strangers, was it harsher?
06:39:17.640 I think it was men who kill strangers get less harsh prison sentences
06:39:20.980 than men who kill their spouse.
06:39:23.640 Isn't that what you said?
06:39:24.400 The opposite?
06:39:25.780 Yes, men who kill strangers get less harsh.
06:39:27.380 Whichever one it was, that's comparing men who kill strangers
06:39:31.460 to men who kill spouse.
06:39:33.280 I'm saying men who are in jeopardy receive higher,
06:39:41.340 greater prison sentences than
06:39:43.520 women who are in jeopardy who receive
06:39:45.460 prison sentences. Okay. 1.00
06:39:47.560 So your stat is
06:39:49.380 irrelevant. Okay, sure. You want to throw it out? We can throw it out.
06:39:51.780 Let's throw it out. That's fine. No problem.
06:39:53.440 It's not germane.
06:39:55.840 That's fine. We can throw out my stat.
06:39:58.260 Regardless, you
06:39:59.340 and Andrew have sat here and talked about how
06:40:01.500 men enforce rights. Men are bigger,
06:40:03.540 faster, stronger. So even if we ignore
06:40:05.760 the statistics, right? Even if we
06:40:07.580 ignore the fact that 80%... It's a non-sequitur.
06:40:09.400 Can I finish? All right. Yeah, but I don't see how it's related.
06:40:11.860 Even if we ignore the fact that 80% of violent crimes in the U.S. that are convicted are men, right?
06:40:16.680 Even if we ignore the fact that 93% of rapists who are convicted in the U.S. are men,
06:40:20.820 even if we ignore the legitimate statistics from the federal agencies, right?
06:40:24.900 Regardless of that, just because men are bigger, faster, stronger, 0.96
06:40:28.860 would you not agree that if a man says to a woman, I hate women, 0.59
06:40:32.920 he poses a greater threat to that woman than a woman who comes to a man and says,
06:40:36.820 I hate men because he's bigger, faster, stronger.
06:40:39.400 i don't see how that would be can you say yes or no please because i don't see yes or no please 0.89
06:40:43.680 what to what okay my question is if a man says to a woman in general right i do women does he pose
06:40:53.800 a larger risk to harming that woman comparatively to a woman saying to a man this is i hate men
06:41:01.440 does she pose the same risk if someone consumes can you say yes or no hold on if someone yeah
06:41:07.880 but it's so you said yes man no i didn't say yeah i didn't say yes okay yes i don't grant it
06:41:12.780 men i don't grant it you don't i'm not prepared to say definitively that that's even true
06:41:17.640 generalization generalization the general man is stronger than the average woman correct i'm
06:41:21.740 willing yes men are stronger than women but it doesn't follow it doesn't follow one is saying
06:41:27.280 to the other they eat them it doesn't follow that because you have like you you espouse
06:41:33.060 misogynistic or misandrist views that you then end up uh physically assaulting the opposite sex
06:41:40.540 if if you're making tiktok videos just saying i hate men or i hate women it doesn't there's a
06:41:47.980 screen separating the viewer i don't understand like what what are you talking may i jump in
06:41:53.360 i actually think that i mean okay sure go ahead okay so what she's saying i kind of see her point
06:42:01.340 in north carolina there was a case with a black man who was just attacking women even white women 0.79
06:42:06.820 because he hated women he would say he would make posts saying i hate women i hate this you can
06:42:12.320 search it up on the news it should come up north carolina i think it was dejan that's what his name
06:42:16.880 was but he would get arrested and then they would release him and he would do it again he would
06:42:21.160 literally post the attacks and he'd say how much he hates women and he'd go attacking them like the 0.89
06:42:25.620 black guy yeah it was a black dude too and well that yeah that's he got released four times well 0.96
06:42:30.140 OK, well, that's a that's an indictment of the criminal justice system and these activist judges who let these guys off easy.
06:42:37.140 That's obviously wrong and terrible. 0.96
06:42:39.620 But that guy who you're referencing was like severely mentally ill. 0.98
06:42:42.960 But it's still because he's saying he hates women, though, and he's doing it and he's posting it. 0.92
06:42:46.500 But I can give you plenty of examples where women also do bad things to men, too. 0.66
06:42:52.440 Well, do they say they hate men and then go do it? 0.86
06:42:55.580 But he's like saying, I hate women. 0.99
06:42:57.160 I'm gonna go do this because I hate women. 0.98
06:42:58.700 i'm sure i could find some example where a woman's like i hate um i'll give you a feminist example 1.00
06:43:04.640 so are you know what the you're a feminist you know what the scum manifesto is the what no you 1.00
06:43:10.820 don't your scum manifesto uh i think her name is valerie shit the name is of do you know who 1.00
06:43:17.660 andy warhol is so a woman he's an artist yeah so i i'm trying to recall valerie um can somebody in 1.00
06:43:26.540 the chat tell me the name valerie solanus or something like that um she's a feminist she 0.75
06:43:31.080 wrote this book the scum manifesto very anti-male propaganda and um she tried to kill uh andy 0.97
06:43:38.040 warhol uh so let me google that just to make sure i have did she say she hates men oh but we're 0.96
06:43:43.940 talking about generalization though like it's really rare for women to go do that solanus
06:43:51.240 it's really rare for women to go it's also really rare for men to do that too it's not though it is
06:43:56.200 80 percent of violent crimes in the u.s but you can search up the statistics well hold on the
06:44:01.560 wait wait that doesn't even follow so if like the rate of murder is like point zero zero zero like
06:44:09.740 point zero zero two in men and it's point zero zero one in women it's rare what are you talking 0.83
06:44:19.300 Well, men are murderers. 0.99
06:44:21.320 You just said. 0.98
06:44:21.860 I'm talking about murderers.
06:44:23.040 I'm so confused about that. 1.00
06:44:24.120 Tell me how many fucking men are murderers. 1.00
06:44:27.500 It's rare for a girl to be a murderer, serial killer. 1.00
06:44:30.460 They call us unicorns.
06:44:30.680 But it's also rare for a man to be a murderer.
06:44:33.120 No, it's not.
06:44:33.640 Most serial killers are men.
06:44:35.720 That's what we learned from the FBI in our class.
06:44:39.280 Hold on.
06:44:39.880 But you guys are being completely illogical.
06:44:43.180 Just because a really high.
06:44:44.860 Okay.
06:44:45.840 The FBI calls us unicorns.
06:44:47.760 because they said men are usually well okay there's a whole bunch of responses i have here
06:44:52.660 first off this idea that women are perfect angels you guys did not do not agree by the way through
06:44:58.460 through abortion uh there's this great meme tiffany if you can find that meme uh i think
06:45:04.120 it's in the memes section uh you're gonna have to scroll up it's like um it's like five six up
06:45:12.720 in the memes and resources so men have killed one like i think one billion people in wars
06:45:21.740 over all of human history women have killed 1.3 billion people via abortion since 1980 0.98
06:45:27.800 that's not the same that's not the same yes it is killing real people who have a beating heart
06:45:33.860 who are like not just a piece of self who have families who have kids that's where the fbi said 0.92
06:45:40.340 most white men are actually the serial killers. 1.00
06:45:42.060 This is the fucking meme. 1.00
06:45:44.600 FBI literally said middle-aged white men 1.00
06:45:46.840 are usually the serial killers. 0.50
06:45:48.300 But hold on, hold on.
06:45:50.360 You have to differentiate.
06:45:53.420 So I'm willing to grant
06:45:54.400 that in terms of the percentage of people
06:45:57.980 who are murderers,
06:45:59.860 yes, 80% or whatever the number was,
06:46:02.760 I don't know what the exact number is,
06:46:04.400 it can be 90%.
06:46:05.640 But what percentage of all people
06:46:08.820 are murderers?
06:46:10.340 What percentage of all people are murderers? 1.00
06:46:13.920 Women who are...
06:46:14.700 I'm sorry. 1.00
06:46:15.240 What percentage of all people are murderers? 1.00
06:46:18.920 Women who are serial killers are unicorns. 1.00
06:46:21.580 Answer my question. 1.00
06:46:23.740 What percentage of murderers? 0.63
06:46:25.920 But you're saying abortion.
06:46:26.860 That's not the same thing. 0.99
06:46:27.780 Men are the...
06:46:28.080 I'm off of abortion.
06:46:28.940 Oh, okay. 1.00
06:46:29.400 So men. 0.91
06:46:30.400 Okay.
06:46:31.220 What percentage of all people are murderers?
06:46:35.120 Men.
06:46:36.060 That's literally the statistics.
06:46:36.740 That's not an answer to my question.
06:46:38.500 Oh, like, what do you mean?
06:46:39.280 Sorry.
06:46:40.340 okay say you have a hundred people 50 of them are men and 50 of them are women right all right i
06:46:49.040 should do bigger numbers a hundred thousand people 50,000 are men 50,000 are women now i don't know
06:46:57.400 the exact breakdown on this but say i'm willing to grant that more men will be murderers but let's
06:47:04.860 say out of what was the number 100,000, let's say 10 of them are murderers. And even if we say
06:47:12.940 nine of those 10 are murderers, and so nine out of 10 men are murderers in this example, 0.62
06:47:19.920 and one of them is a woman, you'd have to agree that being a murderer, whether you're a male
06:47:27.200 murderer or a female murderer is really rare i understand that yes women murderers are rarer
06:47:35.780 but it's just rare to be a murderer period but woman and we're not we're not going to do collective
06:47:43.120 guilt just because a small proportion of men are murderers that doesn't indict the entire gender
06:47:51.160 of men but you said out of the 10 nine are men who are murderers and one that's why they call
06:47:55.960 a unicorn nine out of the ten you're not listening to what i'm saying bro is it rare to be a murderer
06:48:03.820 yes or no it's not it's not rare no you can look it up the statistics the fbi has literally been
06:48:10.000 saying how murder has been murderers have been increasing that's probably i would be interested
06:48:15.940 to look at the stats okay here i'm just gonna google okay here i'm just gonna do this what
06:48:21.160 percentage of people are murderers fbi.gov might have it fewer than 0.05 percent of people commit
06:48:30.340 murder in their lifetimes so is 0.05 percent rare but would you also argue though that those
06:48:40.900 are the okay is 0.05 percent rare that's really big for murderers i'm not gonna lie it depends
06:48:48.080 on every state too oh my god all right go ahead with your point um would you oh my god just lost
06:48:53.480 my train of thought one second um okay all right um honestly i think it's a moot point just because
06:49:01.320 it's a small percentage whether it's less than one percent or not first of all we weren't even
06:49:05.820 just talking about about murder we i didn't give any statistics on murder i gave statistics
06:49:10.000 on violent crimes and on rape but even if it is less than one percent violent violent crimes
06:49:16.760 rape, murder, those are all very serious things that could end your life or affect your life
06:49:20.980 negatively for the next few years. So truly, it doesn't matter if it's less than 1%. When your
06:49:25.440 safety is a concern, you should absolutely consider that. So you should absolutely hate men. 0.97
06:49:30.380 Nobody said that you should hate men. I was just pointing out your differentiation.
06:49:34.360 You're saying it's not as bad. By the way- I'm saying they don't propose as much of a danger.
06:49:38.860 That was my point. Who's talking about danger? Shouldn't we, look, you're bringing it to this
06:49:45.700 completely other place um we're talking about right and wrong what is morally right and wrong
06:49:53.220 right um wait i don't even hold on let me see if i can parse this a little bit um
06:49:59.140 so you're saying if something is more likely to happen uh like a bad thing is more likely
06:50:10.760 to happen from a specific demographic therefore the the initial statement is justified or not as
06:50:18.900 bad i'm not saying okay but here using using okay but hold on using your logic then i'm just going 0.96
06:50:24.760 to be i can just be a racist and be like well hold on um black people pose a greater threat because
06:50:30.900 they're more represented in crime statistics so i think you're misunderstanding per capita no you're 0.61
06:50:38.040 completely wrong you don't know what per capita is continue with your point okay so i was just 0.96
06:50:42.240 gonna write it down um yeah damn it damn it it's gonna come back to me okay yes or no per capita 0.99
06:50:48.200 do black people commit more crimes than white people i don't know how do you okay it's very 0.99
06:50:52.540 easy for you to say men commit more crimes than women why can't why can't if we're gonna i just
06:50:57.020 gave you statistics no but it's interesting the it's very it's okay to say men do this thing
06:51:03.700 more often than women
06:51:05.720 but as soon as we, that's the 0.99
06:51:07.600 gender paradigm, that's the gender lens 1.00
06:51:09.980 if I start 1.00
06:51:10.920 looking at it through the racial lens
06:51:13.540 then it's off limits, then it's bad
06:51:16.120 all crime?
06:51:17.960 or just like violent crimes?
06:51:18.940 when did I say all crime?
06:51:20.760 what are you talking about? 0.99
06:51:21.760 you said black people commit more crime 0.99
06:51:24.580 are you talking about all crime or are you talking about just violent crime? 1.00
06:51:28.100 generally, I'm sure 0.99
06:51:29.280 violent crime, per capita black people 1.00
06:51:31.360 commit more violent crime, they commit more murder 1.00
06:51:33.220 Per capita
06:51:34.780 Okay great
06:51:36.720 So now that we've established that per capita 1.00
06:51:38.780 Black people commit more crime than white people 1.00
06:51:40.720 Do I have justification 1.00
06:51:45.280 Like is it less bad to be
06:51:47.480 Racist
06:51:48.520 What
06:51:51.040 You could have fear
06:51:52.020 Can I say my point 1.00
06:51:53.900 The fuck 1.00
06:52:01.880 I don't know 1.00
06:52:02.400 what's that okay the fuck all right it's haunted um i want to make one close the door for a bit i'm 0.99
06:52:12.300 not saying full close full close i'm not saying that going on a public platform and saying i hate 0.99
06:52:17.160 men or i hate women i am not saying that neither of those would have negative effects i think that
06:52:22.180 they are both not good things to put out into the world because it does lead to more separation
06:52:26.200 um xyz right so i want to make that part clear i'm not saying that it's okay for one to do it
06:52:30.600 and it's not okay for the other.
06:52:31.920 What I am saying is that one poses a greater risk,
06:52:35.680 men pose a greater risk to women 0.94
06:52:37.160 because they are bigger, faster, stronger, 1.00
06:52:38.540 which you undisputably agree with, right?
06:52:42.460 Just because men are men doesn't necessarily indicate
06:52:45.700 that they would be a greater risk to women.
06:52:47.980 If they're saying something hateful,
06:52:49.480 then it shows that they might be willing to be that risk.
06:52:52.760 Going back, may I add my two cents?
06:52:54.900 I'm going to read some of the chats here.
06:52:58.380 All right, can you read this for me, please?
06:53:00.600 do not agree with all the whatever pod brian drew etc all time but there is a point to this
06:53:06.960 in a dating context i was a commercial driver for a decade and good luck women without men
06:53:11.960 panel you are ladies men are also the issue here all right read this one please thank you uh dave
06:53:17.800 appreciate it crucible raid brother and i don't know and wsb thanks for the work brother all
06:53:26.300 right thank you angelo really appreciate your big super chat guys w's in the chat for oh sorry not
06:53:30.980 angelo angel of war thank you man appreciate it could you read this one brian host a provocative
06:53:35.860 and an interesting show he has given thousands of people the opportunity to promote to promote
06:53:40.640 themselves it must be like trying to hurt cats but he raised his voice how dare he true hey kieran
06:53:47.500 thank you very much for the super chat man really appreciate it just a reminder ten dollar display
06:53:50.940 $100 read, $200 TTS
06:53:53.540 Let me see if there's any Streamlabs
06:53:55.300 messages, we're going to see if there's
06:53:57.440 any of those
06:53:58.220 May I allow to talk?
06:54:01.720 What's up? May I allow to say something?
06:54:05.140 Yeah, sure
06:54:05.900 Okay, so going back
06:54:07.680 to the cap, how do you say it?
06:54:09.920 Wait, hold on, let's read this really quick
06:54:11.200 Can you read this? Funny enough, because
06:54:13.480 I've been sending chats all night, I live in
06:54:15.360 Minneapolis, this chick is 1.00
06:54:17.580 crazy, we do not claim her
06:54:18.960 thank you snapjack appreciate it man thank you thank you uh okay what's your thing and then
06:54:26.360 the capica how do you say it the per capita per capita okay so you said don't you study um i do
06:54:34.160 but we haven't talked about that we talked about serial killers and they said most serial killers
06:54:37.700 are middle-aged white men and they gave the age statistics even if that's true what that doesn't
06:54:43.080 that doesn't disprove my per capita claim but go ahead okay so they said usually white men are the 0.59
06:54:48.140 ones that are committing crimes on anybody any gender any race any whatever but black men usually 0.89
06:54:53.740 go for black like they usually tend to go for the same the same race the same like the same color 0.88
06:54:59.740 and that's usually how it goes but as in where white men they don't have a their targets are
06:55:04.740 usually random they have like um this is bogus but no it's not bogus you can literally when in
06:55:11.700 my study of murder class um my freshman year we had fbi consultant come in we usually put our
06:55:17.460 phones away for this and that's what he talked about so if i were to show i mean look the
06:55:23.500 statistics show like if we're talking though uh interracial crime so if we're comparing
06:55:30.360 white perpetrators black victim versus black perpetrator white victim i'm not talking about
06:55:36.880 that i'm talking about well it's completely relevant because if we're talking about inter
06:55:40.940 gender intersex crime not intersex i suppose but um then we would also have to like view it
06:55:49.640 from the racial lens of interracial crime i see what you guys get very uncomfortable you get very
06:55:56.020 uncomfortable oh well um men commit more crimes therefore it's kind of okay that we're misandrist
06:56:00.360 ah great okay so just because so what here women have bad experiences with men women are
06:56:07.580 victimized by men. You guys make a granting and an allowance for anti-male sentiment and male 0.66
06:56:14.500 hatred and misandry because of that. Well, hold on. If I can demonstrate that the white person
06:56:20.840 has been victimized by a black person and has bad experiences with black people, 0.99
06:56:27.520 what's stopping you from making, you have to be consistent here. You'd have to basically allow 0.74
06:56:33.380 them to be racist so i think it's wrong to be racist and i think it's wrong to be a misandrist
06:56:38.840 but i'm none of that because i can't be biased in the career i'm going to i can't be biased
06:56:44.880 i can't i don't say i hate men just because of the experiences i've had with men i've had
06:56:49.500 terrible experiences with men but with women as well but both very different ways but what i'm
06:56:55.540 saying is when a man says they hate you that proposes a threat i could tell you personal
06:57:00.280 stories that women can do massive damage and massive harm and with weapons and all kinds of 1.00
06:57:05.980 things there you know it is even if it's even if it occurs less frequently the what we're talking
06:57:13.080 you guys just want to say men bad men greater threats it's like well hold on wait just let 0.52
06:57:18.700 me ask you a question though um are black people bigger than asian people generally speaking 0.91
06:57:23.360 like what do you mean is the average height of a black person um bigger than an asian person 0.83
06:57:28.080 there's tall asians oh my god dude short too yeah there's some short black people too these 1.00
06:57:35.360 fucking people are so bad faith yeah so bad faith they can't even just like grant an obvious truth 0.99
06:57:40.940 no but i think it's interesting that are are black americans generally yes like generally 1.00
06:57:46.340 black americans physically larger than asian yes but where are we going with this well hold on 0.97
06:57:52.660 Now Asian people must have some 1.00
06:57:55.480 You must grant Asians fears 0.99
06:57:58.220 But that's not the same thing 1.00
06:57:58.720 How's it not the same thing
06:58:00.020 They're not about to hate crime each other 1.00
06:58:02.280 Black people are definitely hate crime Asian people 1.00
06:58:05.180 And Asian people are hate crime black people 1.00
06:58:07.040 Not nearly to the same degree 1.00
06:58:09.180 But usually it's to their own race 0.88
06:58:10.660 But what I'm trying to say is
06:58:12.080 Like you said men are stronger
06:58:14.860 Men are this men are more
06:58:16.560 Men are not predators
06:58:19.660 I reject it entirely
06:58:21.520 But we're prey
06:58:22.300 do you think men are predators
06:58:23.840 some men are
06:58:25.960 and some women are predators
06:58:27.560 I'm saying that way as in like we're prey 1.00
06:58:30.380 and they're like big like in the food 0.99
06:58:32.480 chain they're up more that's a really fucked 0.97
06:58:34.380 up way to think about things 1.00
06:58:36.320 bro you should see a therapist holy fuck 0.99
06:58:38.480 no but is that not true like 1.00
06:58:40.100 you just said you guys are men
06:58:42.260 are better men are stronger men are this
06:58:44.320 we're the weakest link
06:58:46.220 so we're at the bottom
06:58:47.780 we are at the bottom of the food chain
06:58:51.380 that wouldn't establish
06:58:52.300 I'm speaking scientifically. 0.59
06:58:54.320 That wouldn't establish that men are predators
06:58:56.140 and that women are prey.
06:58:58.260 That's a really weird training. 1.00
06:58:59.800 But you literally say we're at the bottom of the food chain.
06:59:02.020 I didn't say that.
06:59:03.160 I'm speaking the biological way you put it.
06:59:05.980 No, you said it all day with Andrew.
06:59:07.900 You guys did.
06:59:08.440 When did I say we're at the bottom of the food chain?
06:59:10.680 No matter how strong we are, we're at the bottom. 0.99
06:59:13.720 I don't eat pussy, so I don't even know what you're talking about. 1.00
06:59:16.080 You don't need to eat pussy to know. 1.00
06:59:18.040 Yeah, but bottom of the food chain. 1.00
06:59:19.480 I ain't eating women in any way. 1.00
06:59:21.300 Like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 0.99
06:59:22.460 No, but you said with Andrew, you guys literally said no matter how strong, no matter how talented. 0.99
06:59:27.880 Nobody said shit about bottom of the food chain. 0.89
06:59:30.500 It's just true. 0.99
06:59:31.040 You guys are hunters.
06:59:31.980 Let me just put it in that way, the way you like to put it, that you guys are hunters and we're the prey.
06:59:37.280 Does that make it better?
06:59:38.720 Let's remove the word predator because I forget.
06:59:41.180 English is my third language.
06:59:42.200 I forget predator could mean a lot of things, but I meant it in a biological way.
06:59:45.640 You need to retire, Brian.
06:59:46.180 Bro, I'm just going to start playing. 1.00
06:59:47.460 I'm just going to be a fucking role of the craft. 0.99
06:59:48.940 Okay, let me put it the way you like to say it. 0.99
06:59:50.740 men are hunters right you guys will hunt us if you hate us yeah what bro yes no actually i you
06:59:58.080 know um this would go both ways though i've like women are stalkers too so yeah but usually men
07:00:04.120 are the ones that will actually act on the violent acts like you said you guys like to 0.98
07:00:07.940 holy fuck we just had a we just had a woman you see you this is convenient for you because you 0.98
07:00:13.520 don't think lindsey clancy killed her three kids i don't know anything about it was actually a 0.99
07:00:18.140 A mis-trial.
07:00:19.040 Actually, a mis-trial.
07:00:19.940 He hasn't even been catching up.
07:00:22.240 Actually, a mis-trial.
07:00:22.840 You guys, he hates to admit that I was actually right, and I predicted what was going to happen.
07:00:27.240 Give me some credit.
07:00:28.480 You're not giving me any credit.
07:00:29.580 Mr. Reddington literally said, who said, her lawyer, her lawyer in court said, what evidence points to her that she did it?
07:00:35.540 Patrick.
07:00:36.260 That's the only evidence.
07:00:37.360 So, it's a mis-trial.
07:00:38.780 Okay, this is how corrupt attorneys are, though, because he literally. 0.96
07:00:42.600 The judge is corrupt, too. 0.97
07:00:43.900 Hold on. 0.99
07:00:44.760 Everyone's corrupt, guys.
07:00:45.640 Stop, stop, stop. 0.81
07:00:46.180 Let me finish.
07:00:46.620 he literally stipulated
07:00:48.780 he literally stipulated 1.00
07:00:50.620 to her killing the fucking kids 1.00
07:00:52.980 so that she could do the insanity 1.00
07:00:55.200 defense he stipulated 0.98
07:00:57.220 to it and then like of course 0.99
07:00:59.420 this is how scumbag of oh well 1.00
07:01:01.460 okay she 1.00
07:01:03.380 didn't what evidence is there she did it 1.00
07:01:05.120 motherfucker you said she did 1.00
07:01:07.300 the shit like it's that's crazy 1.00
07:01:09.420 could I tell you something if you actually look at the 1.00
07:01:11.380 evidence if you look at the evidence
07:01:12.920 Patrick that was the only evidence can you just give me
07:01:15.420 this one because it's true why his own mother his own mother doesn't he takes lindsay's side
07:01:20.820 his own mother that's not true yes did you not see the core okay can you explain it to me i i mean
07:01:27.440 i don't really know much about it but i i saw that clip yeah she's like really like she spoke
07:01:33.900 good about her too on the stand said that she showed no signs of everything that they said
07:01:39.220 So do you think Lindsay Clancy is innocent?
07:01:44.320 I think based off of evidence and the eye of law that she is most likely guilty.
07:01:52.060 I mean, we're also...
07:01:53.120 Okay, did she kill her three children?
07:01:55.740 No.
07:01:57.560 I mean, I would say yes, but I think there's also a lot of red flags with the husband that need to be looked at.
07:02:03.640 There is a lot of red flags.
07:02:04.960 Thank you.
07:02:05.800 What are the red flags? Just give me like three.
07:02:08.200 He immediately had gone with another woman after.
07:02:10.440 I'm pretty sure they had gotten engaged.
07:02:12.460 Wow.
07:02:13.000 How is that a red flag?
07:02:16.040 By the way, that's not true.
07:02:17.480 But how is that a red flag? 0.99
07:02:18.840 I mean, I would say if your wife just killed you guys' three children, 0.69
07:02:22.900 your immediate reaction is to go get engaged in another woman or whatever it is.
07:02:26.720 I don't think that's normal. 0.83
07:02:28.880 Whether it's normal or not, even if it's super fucking weird, 0.99
07:02:32.440 even if he liked to dress up in a furry costume and get pegged in his anus, 0.99
07:02:37.700 How would that prove that he 0.98
07:02:39.660 Well that's not a problem
07:02:41.080 Yeah but weird thing
07:02:43.360 This is the illogicalness
07:02:46.000 That we're dealing with
07:02:46.780 Weird thing does not equal 1.00
07:02:49.740 He killed the fucking kids 1.00
07:02:52.020 Let me give you an actual fact 1.00
07:02:52.980 Wait hold on what else
07:02:54.580 I'm also not very educated
07:02:58.160 On this case
07:02:58.940 Wait can I ask you a question
07:03:00.340 You've been dating a guy for how long
07:03:03.440 Six months I've known him for about a year though
07:03:05.760 six months and then your longest relationship was eight months that was in 2022 okay so were
07:03:11.540 you date before your uh recent boyfriend were you involved with the guy uh yeah like talking
07:03:17.400 okay so how soon after it ended with uh the talking guy did you get with your boyfriend
07:03:23.780 i didn't see okay i knew them both at the same time like i both met them around the same time
07:03:28.800 But I want to say two months after, I want to say two, three months after we've made it official.
07:03:37.700 There was also just...
07:03:38.720 Whoa, that's really suspicious.
07:03:40.060 I think you might have...
07:03:40.960 Where are you from again?
07:03:42.060 L.A.
07:03:42.660 I literally said that too.
07:03:44.700 Wait, there was a murderer in L.A. around that time.
07:03:48.600 Whoa, that's really suspicious.
07:03:50.340 I think you might have murdered somebody now because it's really weird.
07:03:53.260 Let me give you an actual fact.
07:03:53.940 You're comparing not to murdering children though.
07:03:55.400 I think that's a very different case in that comparison.
07:03:58.220 I don't think that's fair to talking versus being in a relationship.
07:04:01.800 I was getting to know someone versus someone I'm long-term committed to.
07:04:05.360 Why would it be weird that, by the way, it wasn't just spontaneous murder.
07:04:13.780 This relationship dynamic was gigafucked for a very long time.
07:04:18.180 I'm not disagreeing with the case of that she killed her kids.
07:04:21.040 I just think there's other things to look at in the case.
07:04:23.040 I bet Patrick was not very happy. 1.00
07:04:28.220 I hate women. 1.00
07:04:30.380 Okay, great argument, fucking bozo. 1.00
07:04:32.780 All right, so anyways, Patrick was probably very displeased with what was going on with her, right? 0.99
07:04:41.040 Now, I don't believe he was cheating on her. 0.98
07:04:42.860 However, once your fucking significant other mercs your kids, that relationship is over. 0.99
07:04:50.240 Oh, 100%. 0.99
07:04:51.000 And, like, I don't fault somebody who's grieving to, like, you think it's unheard of when,
07:04:58.220 Let's just, I mean, we're going to take it down a notch.
07:05:01.320 Do sometimes people cope with a breakup by dating someone new like that?
07:05:06.120 Yeah.
07:05:06.640 But this isn't a breakup.
07:05:07.600 I know it's a bit different, but like you break up with somebody.
07:05:12.320 Well, wouldn't that just be a rebound?
07:05:14.200 Hold on.
07:05:15.060 Hold on.
07:05:16.000 Well, no, I think sometimes you get into like another relationship.
07:05:18.060 Well, I think that's what they consider like rebound, though,
07:05:19.840 when you date someone to get over someone else.
07:05:21.440 That's usually what they say.
07:05:22.120 That's like kind of.
07:05:22.820 It's not going to last.
07:05:25.040 That's sort of a separate thing.
07:05:28.220 I think when people are going through something difficult, say a breakup, it's really common
07:05:35.840 to just like try to find a new person right away.
07:05:38.520 In that case, in this scenario, what's wrong with...
07:05:42.660 I'm aware...
07:05:43.560 Open the door again, please.
07:05:44.640 Sorry, his wife worked his two kids and he just went...
07:05:48.080 I can't...
07:05:48.540 I wouldn't be the same.
07:05:49.380 I'm aware of like how people handle grief differently.
07:05:51.940 It comes in all shapes, sizes, whatever.
07:05:54.020 but i also think immediately if your reaction is okay i want to find another woman let's get 0.87
07:05:58.880 engaged she randomly within a week you're saying if she if he didn't cheat that she just came out
07:06:02.820 of the woodworks within a week they're engaged i think that's very bizarre and i think they're
07:06:06.880 just underlining something bizarre does not equal but would you say that it's a leading factor in
07:06:11.760 the caseload or something like it's a little relevant okay then how you can't like it's not
07:06:15.900 not necessarily relevant to if she killed her kids or not but relevant in the case of
07:06:19.360 maybe like he was semi-involved maybe that how would it how what's the connection i mean i think
07:06:25.640 the lack of care and empathy those are your kids like i think if you're moving maybe killing your 1.00
07:06:31.580 kids yeah it's wrong it's disgusting oh my gosh kill it what what worse killing kids or your wife 1.00
07:06:39.580 just killed your kids and you move on killing kids it's a mistrial they have even now it's changing 1.00
07:06:45.160 now you keep okay i don't agree now it's changing you have to wait for the second trial for us to 0.99
07:06:49.500 say what the judge and the people decide what she did okay i don't entirely that's the legal system
07:06:55.180 uh the cornell seven did they rape that woman i haven't actually looked into that one you posted 0.97
07:07:01.020 a story yesterday while spending awareness on you're like you want to kill you well i know the 0.96
07:07:05.800 group chat messages i know that is that what you're gonna bring up but okay so group chat 0.98
07:07:10.400 group chat messages send them to jail kill them but three dead bodies three dead bodies not enough
07:07:18.660 i never said that whoa why are you putting words in my mouth i just said oh i just because my
07:07:24.020 boyfriend was talking about the cornell seven to me but he said that the group chat that she
07:07:27.480 wanted a threesome with two but the other people weren't invited and they drugged her so that's 0.99
07:07:33.000 what i got there's no evidence they drugged her okay but that's what i heard it's just fucking 0.99
07:07:36.900 that's why i didn't talk about it if i make an act like okay she raped me is it true 0.99
07:07:41.300 she raped me now you're like going through this is like murking and then rape completely 0.94
07:07:46.860 two different things yeah murking leaves a body rape is much but there was evidence for the 0.99
07:07:50.980 i would say their dna was in her but she didn't consent to the other people i would say the 0.95
07:07:54.520 evidence provided wait hold on but i'm confused so let's say i have consensual sex with my 0.94
07:07:58.700 girlfriend will my dna be in her yeah but does that prove i raped her she said she had 0.99
07:08:03.100 concession with two of them, but then the other 0.92
07:08:04.900 people weren't supposed to be there.
07:08:07.040 Do you see what I'm trying to say?
07:08:08.580 Yes.
07:08:09.440 So she didn't consent to them.
07:08:12.480 Where's the evidence for that?
07:08:13.520 She said it.
07:08:15.100 She alleges it.
07:08:16.940 No, but she told us.
07:08:18.420 And listen,
07:08:20.560 one of the guys
07:08:22.160 fact-checked me, though.
07:08:24.500 We should forever ruin men's lives
07:08:26.660 just off of an accusation.
07:08:27.920 But listen, they went into the group chat and said
07:08:29.880 open body upstairs.
07:08:32.100 Come in and she never agreed to that 0.99
07:08:34.920 Super disgusting 1.00
07:08:36.860 But you're telling me no man would take advantage to that 0.95
07:08:39.420 Especially in college 1.00
07:08:40.580 Rape does happen
07:08:41.960 And rape is a really bad crime 1.00
07:08:44.600 However just because some fucking super douchey 1.00
07:08:47.620 Frat boys are like free pussy 1.00
07:08:48.760 She was engaging in a fucking orgy 1.00
07:08:51.080 But two people 1.00
07:08:51.680 But the other ones weren't
07:08:53.160 Actually they allege that she raped them
07:08:55.620 No 0.70
07:08:56.820 Of course they did
07:08:58.740 Yes
07:08:59.420 Yes, that's arguably the case 1.00
07:09:02.840 Even if women can rape men easily 0.99
07:09:06.000 Wait, what's that? 1.00
07:09:06.920 Women can rape men easily 1.00
07:09:08.420 Multiple men 1.00
07:09:09.440 A woman cannot rape multiple men 1.00
07:09:11.940 Unless she has some crazy 1.00
07:09:13.960 Hold on, wait, if you can't consent 1.00
07:09:16.420 Sorry, if you're drunk, can you consent to sex? 0.95
07:09:19.640 No 0.91
07:09:19.940 Okay, great, they were more intoxicated
07:09:22.540 I think if one person is sober
07:09:24.380 Hold on, the men were more
07:09:25.760 Two of the men at least were more
07:09:27.900 arguably more incapacitated
07:09:29.860 than her by her own
07:09:31.780 admission. Those are the two men she consented
07:09:33.920 to. Yeah, those are the two men she consented to.
07:09:36.060 But if it reaches a threshold to
07:09:37.800 incapacitation and you continue having
07:09:39.800 Wait, hold on. If a woman passes 0.99
07:09:41.940 a threshold of incapacitation 1.00
07:09:43.660 and she continues 0.95
07:09:45.200 and a man continues 1.00
07:09:47.460 having sex with that incapacitated woman 0.97
07:09:49.740 is it rape? One of the guys 1.00
07:09:52.060 in the group chat leaked it. Okay, great. She continued
07:09:54.240 having sex with these men 0.93
07:09:55.800 after they were incapacitated. That's not 0.96
07:09:57.840 one of the guys in the group chat literally
07:09:59.820 leaked it and he called
07:10:02.000 it rape you know that right that's how they found
07:10:03.980 out about the text one of the guys in the group chat
07:10:05.940 leaked it that's not what
07:10:07.880 that's not what was said in the report
07:10:09.540 in the report she said
07:10:11.240 in the report from what I
07:10:13.940 read it was stated that one of
07:10:15.900 them was retching and she was like
07:10:17.900 rubbing his back and then the other one 1.00
07:10:19.780 but she was having sex with him right before he threw 1.00
07:10:21.880 up she never threw up during the 0.86
07:10:23.860 entire thing is that the only 0.90
07:10:25.980 side effect of being inebriated?
07:10:27.960 No, but I think throwing up is a really good sign. 0.99
07:10:30.100 I usually don't throw up when I get fucked up. 0.99
07:10:30.740 It's a really good sign. It's not the only side effect. 0.98
07:10:32.800 That's such a moot point.
07:10:34.080 It's such a moot point.
07:10:36.440 It's such a moot point.
07:10:37.100 Okay, but going back to the Lindsay Clancy case,
07:10:39.460 Okay, but why do we need to take her word
07:10:41.540 that she was more intoxicated than the men?
07:10:43.260 Listen, it's a legend right now.
07:10:44.720 This is the in-group bias, is that men, demons, women, angels.
07:10:49.800 Women, no fault.
07:10:51.520 Men, all fault.
07:10:52.860 Men, all blame.
07:10:54.440 Women, no blame.
07:10:55.780 Men, all accountability.
07:10:57.500 Women, all accountability. 1.00
07:10:58.100 May I finish? 1.00
07:10:59.400 No.
07:11:00.120 Please. 1.00
07:11:01.640 Okay, statistically, it is rare for a woman to kill their kids.
07:11:05.540 How many cases have there been where a man killed his kids and his wife?
07:11:08.940 Look at the Chris Watts case.
07:11:10.080 No, we are not having abortions.
07:11:10.960 Are we counting abortions?
07:11:12.140 No, no, no, no abortions.
07:11:13.640 How many men have killed their wife and their kids because they want a new life with a different woman?
07:11:17.780 Look at the Chris Watts case.
07:11:18.780 Yeah, that's very high.
07:11:19.720 He drowned his kids in oil.
07:11:20.640 How many people get raped in college? 1.00
07:11:21.760 How many girls get raped in college? 1.00
07:11:23.040 That's a very high case. 0.99
07:11:24.160 You're not looking at the statistics.
07:11:25.680 You're very biased, actually, because you think we're all angels.
07:11:28.380 I'm not saying that.
07:11:29.680 You're very biased.
07:11:30.960 You are biased.
07:11:31.840 You're very, you're manside because you're trying to defend him.
07:11:36.060 I'm not saying all men are like that, but you're not looking at the statistics.
07:11:38.380 Let's start here.
07:11:39.380 Let's see if we can talk about what actually happened.
07:11:43.620 Have you guys read about the case?
07:11:45.580 Yes.
07:11:45.920 Have you heard the actual evidence that's been playing in court?
07:11:48.700 Also, the Cornell or the?
07:11:50.140 Wait, Lindsay Clancy?
07:11:50.440 Oh, Lindsay Clancy.
07:11:51.720 No, I'm talking about Cornell.
07:11:52.740 Oh, here you go.
07:11:53.600 Okay. 0.98
07:11:54.160 um well for any why is it called cornell seven seven guys at cornell college raped her so you 0.81
07:12:01.620 your position is all seven of them raped her yes well it's possible there's been possible you guys 0.95
07:12:06.220 obviously didn't read fucking anything if you think all seven like even as alleged by her by the way 0.91
07:12:13.220 they dispute it i'm just curious why do we give the accusation more weight than the defense why 0.78
07:12:18.840 you're not giving her any chance either give who lindsey relating to would you agree that
07:12:24.180 establishing whether a rape to happen is a bit different than that like with murder you have a
07:12:28.640 dead body yeah but with rape oftentimes it's very much he said she said okay yeah but in order for
07:12:34.100 that to get into court there has to be at least a sustainable amount of evidence for that even to
07:12:38.400 be passed for what rape for i would say any either but you're standing behind the men you can't just
07:12:43.300 Don't go in and say, he said, she said.
07:12:44.640 They won't take you seriously.
07:12:45.420 You're standing behind the men in every case right now.
07:12:48.200 That's not true.
07:12:49.140 Okay, may I say an example?
07:12:50.760 It doesn't get taken anywhere.
07:12:52.260 Accusations are definitely enough.
07:12:53.980 May I say an example?
07:12:54.700 No, it's not.
07:12:55.340 Accusations are enough even to get a conviction.
07:12:58.340 I know people who have tried to report being raped and literally nothing is done about it.
07:13:02.620 I had a partner at one point that was stalking me, that was harassing me.
07:13:06.200 I didn't have enough proof.
07:13:07.320 I couldn't even get a restraining order on him at the time.
07:13:09.620 It was happening.
07:13:10.420 He was pulling up to my home.
07:13:11.560 He was vandalizing my property.
07:13:13.300 No faces were shown or anything.
07:13:14.960 A man pulled a knife on me today when I was coming here in downtown L.A.
07:13:18.520 And my security had to escort me to the car.
07:13:20.700 You have security?
07:13:21.880 Yeah, I do have security.
07:13:22.980 For what?
07:13:24.020 Apartment.
07:13:24.860 Because downtown L.A. is in the state.
07:13:26.060 Oh, is that your apartment?
07:13:26.900 Yeah.
07:13:27.300 He had to take me to my car because he pulled out a knife.
07:13:30.340 You know why?
07:13:30.940 Because I said, he comes up to me and hits on me.
07:13:32.860 And I said, I have a boyfriend.
07:13:34.100 I stopped stepping back.
07:13:36.120 And he's like, why are you mad?
07:13:37.400 Why are you scared? 1.00
07:13:38.160 I'm going to fucking kill you. 1.00
07:13:39.180 And he pulls out a knife on me. 1.00
07:13:40.660 I had to get escorted today.
07:13:41.980 But what I'm saying is the chances of a man being violent is very high.
07:13:45.540 And you are not even giving a girl a chance.
07:13:47.660 I'm saying with her, you're already writing her off that she wasn't raped.
07:13:51.640 Okay, well, first off, there's accusation.
07:13:54.580 Does accusation equal they did it?
07:13:58.940 We ought to wait until the end of the court.
07:14:00.980 Well, people are obviously not waiting until the end of the court.
07:14:03.360 I think when the situation happens that it's fair to wait for whatever sites to come out.
07:14:08.140 You don't want just a great just one person site, whatever.
07:14:11.420 I think it's fair for both sides of evidence to come out, both sides of the story, to gain a true opinion.
07:14:14.780 Yeah, but the men haven't responded at all.
07:14:16.600 They haven't responded to the civil case because it's brand new.
07:14:21.220 Many of them haven't even been served yet.
07:14:22.240 Well, the case happened in 2024, I believe.
07:14:24.500 It just got re-brought up.
07:14:25.820 I think she brought it back.
07:14:27.000 Yeah, but we don't have, like, I don't know if they've released the police interviews with the men.
07:14:30.820 And then there was Cornell that did an investigation.
07:14:33.400 Was there no what they made them do?
07:14:36.040 I know what you're about to say.
07:14:37.220 It's about to be.
07:14:37.540 The essay?
07:14:38.520 That's not true.
07:14:39.600 You're just factually accurate.
07:14:40.720 There's so much misinformation about this Cornell 7.
07:14:46.600 One of the men was expelled.
07:14:48.380 Two of them were suspended.
07:14:50.740 There was, I forget what the, let me pull it up.
07:14:54.560 In the beginning, they didn't do it until their case got bigger.
07:14:57.860 No, no, no.
07:14:58.740 She reported it, and then it went through the procedure at Cornell.
07:15:02.080 But it's, okay.
07:15:03.300 I think it did happen immediately, I'm pretty sure.
07:15:05.000 Let's just find out how much misinformation is here.
07:15:08.960 So is it your position? 0.98
07:15:10.300 like all these people are fucking lying on social media the only punishment to these men was having 0.98
07:15:15.780 to write an essay some schools do that i've heard so would you be willing to pay me a million dollars 0.99
07:15:20.120 if i can actually point that uh some of these men were expelled and or suspended how do you know
07:15:24.460 they didn't how do you know that guy they probably got expelled later on because that's usually how
07:15:28.360 it goes they don't expel someone right away you shouldn't have an accusation wait wait but hold
07:15:32.520 on why should you expel someone right away that's what i just said they didn't do that right away
07:15:36.240 that's not my claim that should happen they bro if if somebody oh my god is do you really think
07:15:43.980 that if a girl goes to her campus and says someone raped me that as soon as she says it okay goodbye 0.95
07:15:50.320 you're gone or should the university do their fucking kangaroo court investigation and then 0.99
07:15:56.300 make a determination yeah i don't know what you're arguing you're incoherent they take it super 0.98
07:16:02.500 fucking seriously they didn't cornell did the the the hold on i believe the court the report 0.77
07:16:08.480 that cornell um i believe wait hold on i don't know it was like a hundred page report abused 0.98
07:16:15.260 not murdered and they left out her interview where she said with a hundred percent are you
07:16:18.840 talking about the da or cornell i'm talking about who are you talking about what cornell
07:16:23.100 reported to the da that's not that was on cnn so much i can literally show you the source
07:16:29.040 who who cornell or the da that cnn stated that that transcript from her interview where she
07:16:35.920 stated that was cornell was with the da the interview was with cornell did not send that
07:16:42.200 information to the da yeah they didn't they ran cornell did an internal no but it wasn't their
07:16:48.900 job they had to bring it to the state it's a crime hold on no they reported everything that's
07:16:53.840 how he was determined wait no we're not gonna oh my god bro you guys don't know how like these
07:16:57.820 college especially someone who's got a master's degree she went to the police she also went to
07:17:03.320 the university right so the university is not a criminal body the university is a separate entity
07:17:09.920 from law enforcement the district attorney is a separate entity from the university so there's not
07:17:16.820 like an necessarily an obligation for the university to forward um all of the information 0.53
07:17:25.080 No, there's not, because she, the, oh, big face.
07:17:29.740 So it's okay for the university to leave out the part where she says, I was 100% raped with no, with no uncertainty.
07:17:35.880 It's okay for them to leave that out in your opinion.
07:17:37.980 Why do you think she's lying, though?
07:17:40.660 Like, you think all the men are angels?
07:17:42.640 By the way, this is, by the way, hold on.
07:17:45.000 This is even assuming the university didn't send it to them. 0.99
07:17:48.580 This is just as it's like CNN fucking. 0.99
07:17:51.720 CNN's valid. 0.99
07:17:52.020 CNN and CBS, these are like major news outlets
07:17:55.060 What are you talking about? 0.99
07:17:56.280 CNN, which puts a fucking orange filter on Trump 1.00
07:17:58.860 Do you see how you favorite the men? 0.99
07:18:00.700 So you're going to discredit any source of information
07:18:02.840 If it's social media, it's not legit
07:18:04.980 If it's CNN, it's not legit
07:18:06.220 What makes it legit?
07:18:07.240 If we want to talk about misinformation
07:18:11.060 Did they just have to write an essay?
07:18:14.220 No, not all of them
07:18:15.060 Not all of them
07:18:15.920 That's what you were saying
07:18:17.360 But they had to write an essay
07:18:18.640 I didn't say all of them in that sentence
07:18:20.420 I didn't say, I said they had to write an essay
07:18:22.240 If she was faking 1.00
07:18:23.140 Here, I'm going to read the actual punishments
07:18:25.480 Because people
07:18:26.260 Where's that from that you're reading? 1.00
07:18:28.880 New York Times, motherfucker 0.99
07:18:31.500 New York Times, sorry 0.99
07:18:33.260 Is that not sufficient enough?
07:18:35.020 Are these punishments by the school?
07:18:37.000 Yes, by the school
07:18:38.520 But how long did it take for them to do that?
07:18:40.480 Why would it matter how long it took? 1.00
07:18:41.880 Because a girl came forward and said she was raped
07:18:43.580 But if a man came forward and said he was raped
07:18:45.380 You would think differently 1.00
07:18:46.680 Nobody would give a fuck if a man did that 1.00
07:18:48.380 No, we give a fuck 1.00
07:18:50.280 Nobody would fucking care. 1.00
07:18:51.120 Because even if you have this image and perspective of a woman, you really do. 0.99
07:18:55.540 Okay, is it genuinely your position that if a man comes forward and says he was essayed or raped by a woman... 0.96
07:19:03.000 I would take it serious. 1.00
07:19:05.460 Oh, you're so impossible to argue with.
07:19:08.740 Would society...
07:19:10.300 Maybe you would take it seriously.
07:19:12.040 Does society in general take male victims of rape as seriously as female victims of rape?
07:19:18.300 Physically, statistically, no, that's why we have a month that tries to bring attention to that.
07:19:22.600 We've been trying to do better.
07:19:23.760 But what I'm saying is you're right away off the bat thinking the girl is guilty.
07:19:28.260 Which girl is guilty?
07:19:29.220 Well, like both.
07:19:30.020 You know, I'm talking about. 0.94
07:19:30.400 Lindsay Clancy?
07:19:30.840 You don't mean guilty.
07:19:31.580 You mean lying.
07:19:32.000 Lying, lying.
07:19:32.580 Sorry.
07:19:32.880 Yeah, the word lying.
07:19:33.880 Thank you.
07:19:34.160 Well, not just, hold on.
07:19:35.440 If an accusation comes forward and it's credible, I'm inclined to believe the woman.
07:19:41.280 However, there's a lot of details here that raise doubt.
07:19:45.960 A lot of details.
07:19:47.820 Not just, oh, wait, Patrick Clancy, he dated a woman a month later, so he killed the kids.
07:19:55.900 I have actual facts for that one that you didn't let me say. 1.00
07:19:58.920 She said she snorted fucking Kay off a dude's cock, not exactly like what I imagine of a rape scenario. 1.00
07:20:06.800 There's all kinds of other stuff. 1.00
07:20:08.360 And they raped her. 0.99
07:20:08.960 Oh, my God, bro. 0.99
07:20:09.540 I mean, if a woman's never tried drugs before. 1.00
07:20:10.820 She can't move her body. 1.00
07:20:12.200 Kay is literally.
07:20:13.380 Here's the misinformation we're dealing with.
07:20:14.980 And that's open shop.
07:20:15.680 Hold on.
07:20:15.860 That's open shop. 0.68
07:20:16.580 here's the here's the information we're dealing with you're impossible you're impossible um ingles
07:20:21.940 and newell hold on bro well all of you okay that's okay ingles and what there's not we definitely 0.99
07:20:31.580 should avoid a fucking post-show orgy that's crazy um ingles and newell newell were expelled 0.97
07:20:37.200 lee suspended for two years with disciplinary probation for several semesters lopez suspended 0.99
07:20:45.340 for three years and two years probation uh sarah bia who graduated banned from the campus uh
07:20:53.280 norris and kretschmar uh received no punishment ordered not to contact jane doe only wrote
07:21:02.120 reflection papers and allowed to graduate yeah but people are saying all their only
07:21:08.100 can you at least agree with me that there are people on social media
07:21:11.720 I wasn't saying that.
07:21:13.380 Their only punishment was 0.95
07:21:14.900 they had to write essays.
07:21:17.020 No, they were punished by the school.
07:21:18.220 But you were attacking me because of other people.
07:21:19.660 Do you see what I'm trying to say?
07:21:21.240 You make up your mind right away.
07:21:23.320 Oh my God, I can't.
07:21:24.280 I gotta pee. 0.99
07:21:25.960 You guys talk shit about me while I'm gone. 0.99
07:21:27.360 I mean, I would argue about that. 0.99
07:21:28.760 Okay, guys, we all know he keeps thinking
07:21:31.280 every girl is a liar.
07:21:33.480 And now he won't even admit that 0.99
07:21:34.920 the Lizzie Clancy mischild shows
07:21:37.040 Reddington literally said what evidence.
07:21:39.340 Do you guys know there was no evidence pointing to her?
07:21:41.720 You know, what was the evidence?
07:21:43.340 He said she did it.
07:21:45.260 Dude, she was drugged so hard.
07:21:47.900 Did you guys even see this blood spatter?
07:21:49.640 There was, like, forensics that came out in court.
07:21:52.500 Also, do you guys want to know what Patrick did?
07:21:54.640 So they went to, like, a kid's museum.
07:21:57.600 She's holding her baby, and then her other baby's in a stroller.
07:22:00.460 Who's Patrick?
07:22:01.040 Lindsey Clancy's husband?
07:22:02.080 Yeah, yeah.
07:22:02.100 Okay.
07:22:02.360 So ready?
07:22:02.660 She's holding her baby around her hip, the one in the stroller, and one trying to play
07:22:07.140 with the stuff.
07:22:07.700 You guys want to know where Patrick is in that video?
07:22:09.460 they play that in court because they were trying to show why he was looking like a weirdo ready
07:22:13.520 he's all the way in the corner kind of watching them and they said in court why are you not helping
07:22:19.120 your wife why is she taking care of all your three kids you look like a weirdo looking at kids people
07:22:24.460 that were around them were asking him if those are his kids because they're saying what are you
07:22:29.280 staring at there were people alarmed with what he was doing he wouldn't even show any connections
07:22:34.060 His youngest daughter would always have a UTI whenever she'd go with him somewhere.
07:22:40.080 That's terrible.
07:22:40.420 And that was medically, like, reported.
07:22:43.200 So that's why there's a mistrial, and he doesn't even look at that.
07:22:46.500 Automatically goes guilty.
07:22:47.480 I'm like, who said she did it?
07:22:49.000 Patrick.
07:22:49.460 But Lindsay did admit to it as well.
07:22:51.740 Yeah, you know why she said it?
07:22:53.220 She literally said it.
07:22:54.320 She doesn't even remember being there, doing it.
07:22:57.940 You know why she said she did it?
07:22:59.780 The paramedic said she did it because Patrick told the police she did it.
07:23:03.100 The police told the paramedic she did it. 0.99
07:23:04.720 The paramedic said you killed your kids. 0.95
07:23:06.680 What would you do if everyone's telling you you killed your kids 0.95
07:23:09.260 and you have no memory because you've been drugged with seven different pills
07:23:12.520 that your man was holding on to?
07:23:14.560 By the way, he held on to all her prescriptions that she didn't even need
07:23:17.900 and kept it, and those were all in her system.
07:23:20.580 And her doctor, psychiatrist, said she would never take the meds.
07:23:23.900 I love that for you.
07:23:25.720 I've got a good question.
07:23:27.420 I've got a good question.
07:23:28.500 I think the audience will like this one.
07:23:30.980 you ready yeah you guys ready okay i'm scared
07:23:35.400 who hide this who is worse
07:23:43.000 wait lindsey clancy or the cornell seven lindsey clancy why what do you mean okay here 0.99
07:23:52.220 let's do this it's a mistrial i can't stick on a mistrial oh my god let me holy fuck bro 0.99
07:23:58.040 stop stop stop 0.99
07:23:59.980 let's assume
07:24:02.160 in both cases okay Lindsay Clancy
07:24:04.320 is guilty the Cornell 7 are guilty
07:24:06.200 okay who's worse
07:24:08.160 I would say Lindsay Clancy
07:24:09.780 Lindsay Clancy obviously
07:24:12.040 the murderer yeah Lindsay Clancy
07:24:14.240 but that's hypothetical I wasn't expecting
07:24:16.360 that to be honest we're logical
07:24:18.220 people I'll give you guys your flowers
07:24:19.480 I'll give you guys your flowers there
07:24:21.580 if the court comes with that answer then yes 1.00
07:24:24.140 she's the worst right
07:24:25.860 That I was assuming 1.00
07:24:27.020 Yeah but I'm going with the fucking system 0.99
07:24:30.020 And you're not 1.00
07:24:31.120 You're just going with she's a liar
07:24:32.640 He didn't do it
07:24:33.940 I think they're both terrible cases
07:24:36.320 But you can't compare the two
07:24:37.700 Yeah they're both very different
07:24:38.960 Well no I mean in that case
07:24:41.260 Like I mean her severity levels
07:24:43.880 We did compare 0.98
07:24:45.120 Yeah it's very like kind of fucked up to compare the two 0.97
07:24:47.580 I think it's very different 0.99
07:24:49.100 I think they're both really bad 0.97
07:24:50.640 Oh they're both terrible
07:24:51.800 Assuming they're both guilty
07:24:54.660 Assuming they're both guilty
07:24:56.740 Both very bad
07:24:58.800 Both very bad
07:25:00.980 Lindsay Clancy worse
07:25:02.500 You know what would be really bad? 1.00
07:25:03.900 If you framed your wife for killing your kids 0.99
07:25:06.680 That also might be really bad 0.89
07:25:09.300 If you what? 1.00
07:25:10.280 If you framed your wife into killing your kids 1.00
07:25:13.380 You're like kids 1.00
07:25:14.720 That would also be really bad right?
07:25:16.980 So we'll wait for the end of the trial
07:25:18.120 We will wait
07:25:19.140 So keep watching the videos by Reddington 0.97
07:25:22.000 And the corrupt judge, the corrupt lawyers 0.75
07:25:23.980 the corrupt people because obviously everyone's corrupt but patrick i hope patrick knows you love 0.62
07:25:30.480 him i do no homo i i do love patrick he's pretty cool just let him know you're number one supporter 0.79
07:25:38.860 um i yeah i think uh patrick is innocent and it's absolutely disgusting that's your opinion 0.80
07:25:46.640 you can have an opinion on her it's disgusting what they did to uh patrick it's you're done
07:25:51.220 it's a mistrial you're literally this is why you're not going to be in law enforcement it's
07:25:54.460 okay you're a debate person yeah exactly so that's why you're perfect just the way you are
07:25:59.820 because you're trying to chat to me you're trying to rage bait me and it won't work
07:26:02.800 but i rage bait you i just it's and you love it
07:26:08.960 um i don't know if i love it okay here let's read some let's read the soup chat
07:26:14.260 here read this read this for me please men cancel all your subscriptions to everything for one month
07:26:20.600 even prediction markets you can turn the tide stop being simple and entitling your own dating
07:26:25.080 conflicts constructive comments welcome ladies brian is right 70 75 of the time be nice kids
07:26:31.520 more than that come on we are nice wait we are nice to brian 97 percent wait brian aren't we
07:26:36.880 nice to you uh i think i think i mean she's been a little annoying but uh i would say you guys have
07:26:45.500 been pretty nice it was the the the girl who was sitting there before was and look hey you did perk
07:26:51.380 up when she left i will say she had a girl you really did well i mean it's like i don't know
07:26:58.960 aren't you guys a bit happy she left too okay yeah low key she wouldn't let me talk she wouldn't let
07:27:03.680 anyone talk over everyone she was rude to her and i just didn't think she had very strong 1.00
07:27:07.400 oh she was she called us names that's why i didn't like listening to her oh yeah she called
07:27:10.520 those names remember no well here's the here's the unfortunate thing is i earlier at some point
07:27:16.820 earlier on in the conversation i actually wanted to set her up to debate rachel and like i would
07:27:22.700 have definitely had her back on the show um i don't have a problem with like her disagreements
07:27:27.340 but like we don't think we gotta have like some short like look you maybe you want to call me a
07:27:34.480 dictator but if i'm like hey we're gonna move it on you got to just let me move it on you're the
07:27:38.540 Well, and it's also because Andrew's like, hey, I got to leave in an hour.
07:27:42.880 I'm like, whoa, there's – because it was actually for her benefit that I wanted to move it on because she had some really other interesting things. 0.92
07:27:50.740 And I was like, Kamala Harris is boring.
07:27:52.500 Let's get into the interesting stuff. 1.00
07:27:53.780 She is boring.
07:27:54.120 While Andrew Harris – Andrew Harris?
07:27:56.760 Andrew Wilson.
07:27:57.940 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
07:27:58.380 Okay.
07:27:58.980 That's crazy.
07:27:59.400 Oh, my God. 0.76
07:27:59.680 You're so mean.
07:28:01.280 What?
07:28:01.520 You laughed at her snort?
07:28:02.920 No, I just said, whoa.
07:28:04.100 I've been having an asthma attack, okay?
07:28:05.120 Wait, can you fix your mic for me, please?
07:28:06.900 Thank you.
07:28:07.220 I've been having an asthma attack all day, okay, guys?
07:28:09.640 I can't breathe.
07:28:11.940 It's actually wild.
07:28:13.280 It's like midnight, and it's...
07:28:15.040 3 a.m. in New York.
07:28:16.580 We've had, like, doors open.
07:28:18.640 It's still 80 degrees in here. 1.00
07:28:20.740 Fuck. 1.00
07:28:21.460 This is probably one of the hotter days. 1.00
07:28:25.160 Okay.
07:28:26.060 And you're in a hoodie.
07:28:27.300 I know.
07:28:29.060 You're stressing me out.
07:28:30.700 This is my merch.
07:28:31.320 I know, but you're stressing me out.
07:28:32.480 Can you just hang it right there, though?
07:28:34.920 That would be a lot cooler if you hang it right there.
07:28:36.220 I guess I could.
07:28:36.860 And then you can be more comfortable
07:28:38.820 In a normal shirt
07:28:40.160 That would actually look cool as hell
07:28:43.000 If you could hang it up right there
07:28:44.420 Yeah up there
07:28:46.560 In the middle
07:28:47.400 Where's the palm trees
07:28:50.000 It's dark now
07:28:51.140 Well obviously just put one hoodie in the middle
07:28:54.840 It's fine, it's cute
07:28:56.220 I would buy it if you do it 1.00
07:28:59.100 Who is worse for women 0.99
07:29:02.540 Lindsay Clancy 0.99
07:29:04.460 Leave Lindsay Clancy alone
07:29:06.420 she's not guilty right now. Leave Brittany
07:29:08.640 alone. It's a mistrial. 0.94
07:29:10.820 I can't answer it when it's a mistrial.
07:29:13.700 Assuming she 1.00
07:29:14.520 did the shit. Okay, mistrial. 1.00
07:29:16.480 We need to wait. And I'll give you all the answers.
07:29:18.320 It's a hypothetical, boo.
07:29:20.160 It's a hypothetical. 0.96
07:29:22.620 If she did it,
07:29:24.240 if she did it, who's worse for 1.00
07:29:26.300 women, Lindsay Clancy or Sydney 1.00
07:29:28.200 Sweeney?
07:29:30.160 What? Tiffany, can you...
07:29:32.080 Actually, I'll get it. Hold on. You can put it
07:29:34.400 back. If she's not guilty, I'm going to feel so
07:29:36.400 in completely different ways like they're both they're both i mean he said who's worse assuming 0.96
07:29:45.040 lindsey clancy if lindsey's guilty then obviously she's bad representation for motherhood but
07:29:50.960 sydney has been in a lot of political turmoil okay they're completely different no they're so
07:29:56.240 it's apples and oranges you're asking me for apples and vodka okay i'm sorry uh hold on apples
07:30:03.200 and vodka not the same thing so lindsey clancy worse or i think they both of you guilty no can
07:30:08.960 i wait hold on but i could be like okay um like wait hold on but this is super easy it's like
07:30:15.000 who's worse uh hitler or uh bill cosby it's like hitler yeah i would argue they're both bad
07:30:23.700 some of the audiences could be like i would argue that you're saying like four sorry that's okay
07:30:28.340 I would argue that Lindsay Clancy is the worst one. 0.97
07:30:31.760 If she was guilty. 0.68
07:30:33.100 In this case, she's guilty, right?
07:30:35.100 If she is, no mistrial, then she is worse than Sidney Sweeney.
07:30:38.280 But I do think Sidney Sweeney does affect the youth in a very terrible way.
07:30:43.020 What's wrong with Sidney Sweeney?
07:30:45.740 I think over-sexualization. 1.00
07:30:47.900 You don't even want to know the things my friend's sisters. 1.00
07:30:50.340 She doesn't do OnlyFans. 1.00
07:30:52.020 Yet. 1.00
07:30:53.200 Yet.
07:30:54.760 Sidney Sweeney doesn't do OnlyFans. 1.00
07:30:56.460 All of her ads are her holding soccer balls or sports balls in front of her private parks. 0.98
07:31:02.560 I'm gay, and I've seen her naked more than AMIX. 1.00
07:31:06.520 I've seen commercials of women washing cars and shit. 1.00
07:31:11.500 These kind of sex sells commercials have been around for decades. 1.00
07:31:20.040 For decades.
07:31:20.880 I'm not denying it.
07:31:21.780 It's always been wrong.
07:31:22.420 They did it with Levi's before, remember?
07:31:25.440 Go ahead.
07:31:25.800 Finish your point.
07:31:26.460 With the girl who was 13, what's her name?
07:31:28.340 I would just argue that this generation struggles a lot more with lust, with over-sexualization, all of it.
07:31:38.460 And I think it's proven in the media.
07:31:40.320 I think it's proven with how men view women, how even other women view women.
07:31:45.360 I think it's proven with OnlyFans and all of it, even the porn industry, what sex is viewed as.
07:31:51.300 Like, 100%.
07:31:52.120 I think it's just a very lustful generation that we're in.
07:31:54.760 And it's completely different.
07:31:55.840 like compared to like the 80s yeah we had playboy yeah we had that it's still wrong it's disgusting
07:32:01.460 i just think there's something with this with this generation that is far 10 times worse
07:32:05.780 i think it's the access to having all these things all these deranged things when sex used to be
07:32:11.500 something very intimate between two people that was literally like between only them and god and
07:32:16.180 that was it now it's publicized everywhere you can go on you can literally look up pornhub from
07:32:21.060 any phone, no matter what it is. 1.00
07:32:23.060 Woman fucking, guy fucking, guy doing this. 1.00
07:32:25.300 What does Sydney Sweeney have to do with that, though? 1.00
07:32:26.720 Sydney Sweeney is...
07:32:28.660 Sorry, moving on, my bad.
07:32:31.520 Can you read this, please?
07:32:32.960 Who is worse for women, men or women?
07:32:34.900 What do you mean by that?
07:32:37.780 That's an interesting one.
07:32:39.620 I think they both are.
07:32:40.860 They both are equally, okay?
07:32:42.660 Guys, $10 display, $100 read.
07:32:44.400 Why are your people that watch this
07:32:46.900 always trying to pin
07:32:48.000 women against each other? 0.98
07:32:50.020 I just realized that you guys hate women 1.00
07:32:52.220 Why are feminists 0.98
07:32:54.040 Trying to I'm not a feminist I already 0.99
07:32:56.080 Told you this okay you know me so
07:32:58.000 Don't even call me that this girl okay I'm
07:33:00.100 Literally a Middle Eastern woman
07:33:01.880 We have our own things with women okay
07:33:04.060 Okay but well I'm an African 0.99
07:33:06.000 American so check your
07:33:07.900 Privilege
07:33:08.420 I'm African American
07:33:11.040 What percent what privilege I'm not even from here
07:33:14.200 My dad was born
07:33:16.020 My dad was born in Africa
07:33:19.100 My mom was born in America.
07:33:20.520 I thought you were from Paris or something.
07:33:23.540 So?
07:33:24.540 I thought you were from the UK. 0.58
07:33:25.960 What if you're a black guy in Paris? 0.88
07:33:28.780 Like you're an American black dude in Paris. 0.95
07:33:30.880 You can be African American. 0.94
07:33:32.160 You don't have to be black, okay? 0.91
07:33:33.760 I'm not talking about that. 1.00
07:33:34.560 Hold on.
07:33:35.000 Just to be clear, I'm not black, but I am African American.
07:33:38.640 I hear what you're saying.
07:33:39.780 Cool. 1.00
07:33:40.060 That doesn't relate to what I was saying, if you hate women. 0.93
07:33:42.440 I don't know.
07:33:43.500 Okay.
07:33:44.320 That was very random. 0.95
07:33:45.300 I'm just being as absurd as you are, I guess. 0.75
07:33:47.180 I don't know. 0.51
07:33:47.580 Like, how did I even relate to that?
07:33:51.400 All right, let's blast through the questionnaire.
07:33:53.100 Let's get you guys' notes done so we can hopefully, I don't know.
07:33:56.160 What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband?
07:33:59.720 I think I put on the thing, I think $300,000, did I say?
07:34:03.480 $300,000.
07:34:04.320 $300,000.
07:34:04.760 $300,000.
07:34:05.560 Okay, what about you?
07:34:06.440 I put $180,000 to $250,000, right?
07:34:10.560 Yes.
07:34:11.080 What about you?
07:34:11.880 $200,000 plus.
07:34:12.900 $200,000 plus?
07:34:13.780 $50,000.
07:34:14.800 Okay, the most reasonable answer.
07:34:17.580 not in california not in california thank you i'm thinking like los angeles like living here
07:34:22.160 like living in california or new york yeah most people make that much around here i think it
07:34:26.140 also depends on lifestyle like i know my boyfriend and i we want a really nicer lifestyle so i don't
07:34:30.360 think it's crazy to say that 300k is is you know it's up there it's up there and then you said 250k
07:34:37.920 you said 200k you're in new york city i mean yeah it's expensive but i would be bringing
07:34:43.400 a lot of money too okay okay you think lindsey clancy's innocent okay because of the system i'm
07:34:52.100 going with the court and you are you are being bad okay i want you guys to argue after the case
07:34:58.720 you're being bad okay we'll argue after the case but right now we have to do the right thing and
07:35:02.740 let the judge the people do their thing well okay there's there's a couple different components to
07:35:08.980 innocent until proven guilty so there's the legal component to it uh then there i believe there's
07:35:14.640 like for example freedom of speech is a principle that i believe supersedes government so oftentimes
07:35:22.880 like uh freedom of speech people are well the first amendment is specifically government related
07:35:29.220 but freedom of speech as a principle does supersede government and so in that same way
07:35:37.680 innocent the uh what's the word the term for like well innocent due process yes due process
07:35:44.800 does super like as a principle supersedes like government laws guaranteeing due process and
07:35:52.080 innocent until proven guilty um however i think if there's like okay let me ask you a question
07:36:02.020 assume you witness a murder yeah right the state guarantees this person who you saw commit the
07:36:08.940 murder like there's no doubt that they did the murder i saw it didn't do the murder um the state
07:36:13.360 still guarantees them uh due process innocent until proven guilty but you know but maybe on the
07:36:19.960 shadow of maybe you're on drugs no maybe i'm lying that's what they have to go through the 0.98
07:36:24.940 court thing in in the hypothetical it's all that you fucking oh so it was real it actually happened 0.97
07:36:30.740 you saw the murder so you know that this person is definitively guilty yeah right and so in this 0.84
07:36:38.460 case i think that as it relates to the lindsey clancy but no one saw she did it why i think with
07:36:43.960 murder cases specifically especially when she already stipulated in an attempt to do the insanity
07:36:49.880 defense that she did do it um and the fact that there's three dead bodies i think it's fair
07:36:57.600 beyond like from like a not a legal level but from just uh hey we're 0.99
07:37:06.160 observers of this to be like yeah that bitch killed the kids can you do me a favor after 0.98
07:37:12.720 this podcast whenever you get a chance look at everything the court showed look at everything 0.97
07:37:18.420 the crime things showed i did actually did you know what his search history said tell me what
07:37:24.980 did it say do you know what her search history said hers didn't say anything you're like what
07:37:31.720 i'm trying to compare to what he said she there was search history from her what did she say do
07:37:35.980 you remember i don't remember but you remember what his search i do remember what he said because
07:37:40.180 it was kind of crazy because who would search this up yeah tell me what he'd search up he searched
07:37:44.220 you know her car she drives that kia or whatever yeah he searched up how to stop the airbags on a
07:37:48.760 kia why would you search that up did he or did her no he did are you sure but is it proven because i
07:37:54.100 no like no no they proved it like if you're on like an account but there was other stuff too
07:37:57.640 no no there was other stuff i think yeah it was proven i feel like can you fact check me because
07:38:01.940 we could be on this conversation forever and like fact checking and there was other stuff too
07:38:06.520 but i'm saying that was a big one for me tilt your mic down downward yeah okay um all right
07:38:13.140 but i'm saying that's crazy to search up okay like come on that's crazy to search up but you're
07:38:20.800 just not looking at the evidence i'm not even sure if he actually searched that though who did
07:38:24.700 then on his phone i don't know it well look even if he did search that up which it seems a bit
07:38:29.340 dubious um what would that prove that it's crazy that you're searching up how to turn the airbags
07:38:36.360 off of your wife's car with his with the three kids let's go ahead and grant it so he searched
07:38:41.380 it up and he disabled she drives the kids she drives the kids all the time in that car and he
07:38:47.540 search that up that's crazy oh oh that's crazy there's never any other reason to okay why would
07:38:54.660 you turn off the airbags to the car that he drives his kids i don't have the answers for that okay
07:38:59.140 then wait till the court ends well no but like from your judgment what would you what would
07:39:03.320 your reasoning yeah it's a reasonable and he won't it's not reasonable to assume he killed the kids
07:39:08.040 if i search up how to thought to say that that um you know that that search history is suspicious
07:39:14.320 Yes, exactly.
07:39:14.920 What if he was looking up transports?
07:39:16.420 No, no, why would you? 0.99
07:39:17.340 Like, what if he was looking up some fucking... 0.98
07:39:18.720 Then he could have assumed that he was into transports. 0.99
07:39:21.040 No, but he's not doing that.
07:39:22.260 He's saying how to turn off the Kia's airbag, okay?
07:39:26.140 Hey, you know that's wrong. 0.56
07:39:27.120 She drove the kids.
07:39:28.420 She drove the kids to school and soccer, everything, and he never did.
07:39:32.940 She used that car.
07:39:33.780 Why would you search that up to turn off the airbags on the Kia?
07:39:36.440 And he searched up the here...
07:39:37.180 Hey, she's from... 1.00
07:39:38.040 She's Afghanistan-y. 1.00
07:39:39.740 Make and model. 1.00
07:39:40.520 Wait, why? 1.00
07:39:41.080 Don't bring attention to her. 0.95
07:39:42.200 I'm bringing attention to you.
07:39:43.400 trying to divert
07:39:44.800 my target towards you
07:39:47.900 I'm trying to divert the craziness to you
07:39:49.800 okay
07:39:50.140 you know what's really weird 0.98
07:39:54.960 he was looking up ladyboy porn 0.73
07:39:57.060 and he wasn't though 1.00
07:39:58.040 he was looking up chicks with dicks 1.00
07:40:00.580 he was searching up how to turn off the airbags 1.00
07:40:02.740 what would you assume from that
07:40:04.500 if you saw that
07:40:05.060 thank you you would assume
07:40:07.940 your ex-boyfriend 1.00
07:40:10.140 was looking up some fucking tranny shit 1.00
07:40:12.260 and i think he might have he he might have been the person who i wasn't oj simpson who killed 1.00
07:40:19.140 the person it was actually um your ex-boyfriend that was the most ridiculous logic and that does
07:40:24.740 not line up i don't know i don't know how you like to you like to ignore basic how old was
07:40:29.880 your ex-boyfriend though how old was he like older than me he was three years older than me
07:40:33.080 so like uh 31 um okay so before his soul like he wasn't even born when the oj simpson trial 0.98
07:40:40.400 was happening so like he somehow um like through interdimensional multi-dimensional fucking 0.99
07:40:47.460 shape-shifting went and killed was it nicole simpson and fucking killed her killed the dude 0.99
07:40:54.140 it wasn't oj simpson fucking killed them interdimensional baby time travel and then he 0.99
07:41:00.580 was born a few few years later and that's why it didn't work out with your boyfriend because he's 0.99
07:41:05.640 a murderer in spirit bro wait you're done that makes total fucking sense dude and your ex-boyfriend 1.00
07:41:13.680 don't get me started on your fucking ex-boyfriend your ex-boyfriend your ex-boyfriend was pull pot 1.00
07:41:23.860 you know who fucking pull pot was khmer rouge motherfucking genocide and shit killing his own 1.00
07:41:30.220 people and shit it's bullshit man and let me tell you about your ex-boyfriend fucking hitler bro 1.00
07:41:35.580 Spiritually Hitler 1.00
07:41:37.660 You do realize that people are 0.88
07:41:40.680 Hold on
07:41:41.520 What happens if we were dating and I searched up how to turn off the airbags on your car 0.96
07:41:44.880 I'd be like 0.67
07:41:46.780 That's wrong 1.00
07:41:48.020 You'd be like this bitch trying to kill me 1.00
07:41:49.500 Would you not be a little concerned 1.00
07:41:52.040 The smallest bit
07:41:53.280 Like the smallest bit concerned
07:41:54.840 I'm asking for your genuine opinion
07:41:57.160 You know what I think
07:42:00.500 Your current boyfriend in a past life 0.93
07:42:02.380 He was Hitler 0.90
07:42:03.340 And so I think, whoa, that's a lot of, like, that's, like, a lot of something going on. 0.90
07:42:10.820 In the past life, he was Hitler. 0.74
07:42:12.840 What were you in the past life? 0.80
07:42:14.160 I wonder.
07:42:16.040 Who was I in the past life?
07:42:17.720 Julius Caesar, obviously.
07:42:19.900 Julius Caesar, Marcus Aurelius.
07:42:23.460 You're eating, okay, she's eating the chicken.
07:42:25.440 Wait, can we read this?
07:42:27.360 Yeah, you didn't even order us pizza.
07:42:29.060 Listen. 0.99
07:42:29.780 Yeah, I fucked up. 1.00
07:42:31.360 Yeah, you're starving us. 0.99
07:42:32.340 Actually we do have some pizza
07:42:34.280 We could heat up 1.00
07:42:36.320 You hate women you didn't feed us 0.86
07:42:37.680 Can you read this 0.83
07:42:38.660 Everyone thinks
07:42:42.720 Everyone think more like Kieran
07:42:44.340 Brian 75%
07:42:46.560 Was generous and you good bro
07:42:48.380 Keep losing the belt sizes 0.99
07:42:49.820 Ladies you burned 1.00
07:42:51.760 Without need for roast 1.00
07:42:53.480 You don't even give us any credit
07:42:55.460 So that's how I know you're wrong
07:42:56.800 You can at least give us 10% credit
07:42:58.340 Are you Kieran
07:43:01.940 I don't know. Who's Kieran?
07:43:02.960 I don't know. Is that like a code word?
07:43:05.540 Brian, but anyways, if we were
07:43:07.220 dating and you drove the kids to school and
07:43:09.080 everywhere and I searched up how to turn
07:43:11.080 off the airbags on his
07:43:13.200 Jeep Wrangler 2013.
07:43:15.440 Yes or no is not all weird.
07:43:16.580 If we were dating, I would
07:43:18.660 Google, how can she talk 1.00
07:43:20.520 less? I barely talk. 0.99
07:43:22.880 If we were dating, I would Google
07:43:24.740 how can I make my girlfriend 1.00
07:43:26.640 talk less? 0.81
07:43:28.240 If we were dating, you know why I would search up?
07:43:30.040 how can i make him listen to the words i say you know what i thought you were gonna say which
07:43:36.740 would have been really funny you would have been like uh you would have googled how to deal with
07:43:41.480 erectile dysfunction that would have been good i wouldn't attack you for that good why well hey
07:43:46.680 who said i who said i had it oh okay sorry you brought it up because i wouldn't that would have 0.97
07:43:51.300 been funny as fuck though i gave you i okay but what i said is funnier because you don't listen 0.77
07:43:55.380 to the words that come out of my mouth if i was dating you know how hard it is to speak english 0.97
07:43:59.380 for me and i do it for you all the time if i was dating you i would google exercises oh you're done
07:44:06.600 if i was dating you i would google um how to balance her uh ph if i was dating you i would 0.69
07:44:14.980 google um how to like get rid of like that arm fat like right there that men like to squeeze
07:44:20.800 if i was dating you by the way these are i know i know that here i'm trying to come up with some 0.99
07:44:24.880 too well okay you're slap you're you're okay oh shit if i was dating you you would look on that 0.98
07:44:29.860 i thought you were coming the whole time if i was dating you it's gonna be bad you know i can't 0.99
07:44:34.460 it's gonna be bad if if i was wait wait i've been doing it i got a funny one if i was dating you
07:44:40.220 i would signed us up for a couple's rhinoplasty oh my god if i was dating you no i got a big
07:44:47.340 we both got big notes yeah yeah yeah that's true if i was dating you what have i done i
07:44:54.560 I would make us go to couples therapy 0.99
07:44:59.180 so the therapist could actually get the words
07:45:00.960 I'm trying to say to get through to you 1.00
07:45:02.540 because you don't listen to the woman. 0.99
07:45:03.780 So the therapist has to be a man. 0.56
07:45:05.500 If I was dating you, I would sneak GLP-1
07:45:07.920 while you're sleeping.
07:45:09.840 Oh, that was good. 1.00
07:45:13.000 Shit. 1.00
07:45:13.760 You would GLP-1 rape me? 1.00
07:45:18.320 Non-consensual. 1.00
07:45:21.140 She would be penetrating me with a needle. 0.97
07:45:23.220 Isn't it a needle or something?
07:45:24.360 It's like a tiny one, like that big one. 0.87
07:45:25.900 You would love to get penetrated. 0.94
07:45:27.680 What? 0.99
07:45:29.080 Is that what you do with your boyfriend?
07:45:30.480 You peg him?
07:45:31.200 No, I don't do that.
07:45:33.260 Whoa, okay.
07:45:34.580 All right, let's finish up, guys.
07:45:36.200 Gosh.
07:45:37.280 What'd you like?
07:45:38.600 Guys, we're having too much fun, okay? 0.99
07:45:40.220 Let's get back to depressing shit. 1.00
07:45:41.920 Oh, my God. 1.00
07:45:42.800 But still, you're not answering my... 0.99
07:45:44.280 Let's get back to depressing shit, okay? 0.99
07:45:47.240 Good thing you're not dating me, because I would search up how to turn off the airbags 0.99
07:45:49.880 to see how it feels.
07:45:51.480 I was waiting for that.
07:45:52.520 Yeah.
07:45:53.100 Good thing you're not.
07:45:54.040 Because then you would be like
07:45:55.380 Good thing you're not dating me
07:45:56.820 Actually this is a fun segment
07:45:58.660 Well good thing you're not dating me
07:46:00.260 Because I would look 0.95
07:46:01.220 Best way to remove a wig
07:46:03.260 I don't have a wig
07:46:04.620 That's fake 1.00
07:46:06.700 She's Persian she got hair 1.00
07:46:09.120 That's not real hair 1.00
07:46:10.180 You were on the show a month ago
07:46:13.800 Those can be extensions 1.00
07:46:15.860 So into her original hair 1.00
07:46:17.300 Show it on the other side 0.99
07:46:19.540 No but that's not her hair 0.98
07:46:20.940 The extensions are here 0.98
07:46:23.040 Okay, so she does have extensions 0.51
07:46:25.980 She has extensions, but the braids are actually hers 0.89
07:46:28.160 It's not like an install
07:46:29.000 My hair has to be long enough to do it
07:46:32.180 You were on the show a month ago
07:46:33.300 I'm Middle Eastern, my hair grows like that
07:46:35.780 Oh my god, bro
07:46:37.220 She's not saying it's that long
07:46:39.260 I'm not saying it's that long 0.99
07:46:40.260 Alright, then I'm going to Google how to fucking get your braids 0.98
07:46:44.600 Maybe you're just jealous 1.00
07:46:46.300 Because you can't grow hair 1.00
07:46:47.460 If I was dating you, I would put you on Minoxil 0.98
07:46:51.060 Okay
07:46:51.880 Some people think it's a hair piece.
07:46:53.380 If I was dating you, I'd put you on minoxyl, okay?
07:46:56.060 You sure? No, you got to taper.
07:46:57.760 You're done. I'm going to mess up my hair.
07:46:59.220 No, no, no. Minoxyl, I'll put you on
07:47:01.920 if we're dating. Don't worry. At the very end of the show,
07:47:04.100 I'll ruffle. Matter of fact, I would
07:47:05.780 put you on neutrophil hair
07:47:07.840 growth, okay?
07:47:09.520 If I was dating you. You know what?
07:47:12.020 I would get you 37.
07:47:14.140 Okay.
07:47:15.260 You were about to say it. What were you going to say?
07:47:18.500 He's at that crisis.
07:47:19.600 Like once you hit five in a decade, you start hitting another crisis.
07:47:22.720 If I was dating you.
07:47:24.160 So hold on.
07:47:24.940 I mean, look, it'd be like if I was like, I don't even know what the equivalent would be. 1.00
07:47:30.460 I mean, women get kind of bent out. 0.99
07:47:31.900 No, a woman who's 37 would be like, I'm not 30. 1.00
07:47:36.880 Like, I don't know. 0.51
07:47:37.500 What are you, 20?
07:47:38.660 29.
07:47:39.560 You're 29?
07:47:40.320 Yeah. 1.00
07:47:40.520 I feel like you'd be bent out of shape if somebody was like, fucking 30-year-old. 1.00
07:47:44.880 You'd be like, bitch, I'm not 30. 1.00
07:47:47.840 I'm 29. 1.00
07:47:48.340 I mean, I'm close, so.
07:47:49.600 You'd be like...
07:47:50.160 Can't fight it too much.
07:47:51.260 Do I look 30 to you?
07:47:52.840 You look 27, like I said.
07:47:54.980 Yeah, no.
07:47:56.760 You know what, though?
07:47:58.420 Okay, let's finish.
07:47:59.460 Let's get this done, guys.
07:48:00.700 Gosh.
07:48:04.240 I'm happy you're happy.
07:48:05.420 You were a buzzkill earlier. 0.93
07:48:06.820 Like, you were such a buzzkill. 0.92
07:48:07.820 It was the predator joke that lightened the whole mood. 0.85
07:48:11.160 The predator joke.
07:48:12.420 That was hilarious.
07:48:13.500 I don't know.
07:48:14.140 Here, let's do this.
07:48:14.780 It wasn't even a joke, but you just said something.
07:48:16.580 How tall are you?
07:48:17.740 How tall are you?
07:48:18.380 what's the minimum male height you would date and the height of last three partners
07:48:24.040 i'm five nine um the minimum i would date is five nine um
07:48:31.060 last three or can it be like guys i've talked to or not necessarily partners
07:48:36.480 but i say talk to i think one was six three or six four one was i think about five six
07:48:45.180 another one is I want to say 5'10
07:48:47.420 next
07:48:47.900 I'm 5'10
07:48:50.320 minimum I would date is 5'10
07:48:53.240 but my
07:48:55.420 current boyfriend is 6'4
07:48:57.840 I had an ex who was also
07:48:59.420 6'4 I dated one who was 6'7
07:49:01.780 and I dated one who was
07:49:03.100 5'10
07:49:04.100 I'm 5'2 I would say 5'7
07:49:09.780 and then the last three I think
07:49:11.560 were like 6'5
07:49:13.580 and 5'11
07:49:15.180 You wrote six foot, six five.
07:49:16.940 Oh, no, no, sorry.
07:49:17.920 I know, I wrote it weird.
07:49:19.140 I'm sorry, I did.
07:49:19.900 You're right, you're right.
07:49:21.000 What about you?
07:49:22.040 I'm 5'11".
07:49:23.520 The shortest I would date is six foot, and my ex is 6'2", and the one before that was 5'10".
07:49:29.440 All right, let's see here.
07:49:32.540 I think there's one or two more things on the question, or then we're almost done with it.
07:49:35.880 Aubrey, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
07:49:43.320 Why is that?
07:49:44.400 um so i don't think it's necessarily owed yeah but there can be a difference in libido and that's
07:49:51.040 a fair component of a relationship you consider your relationship satisfaction i also think some
07:49:55.440 people i also think some people are waiting for marriage though and that doesn't apply well okay
07:49:59.220 let's assume in the marriage then oh and i'm because of course yeah if you're like 0.74
07:50:02.840 that would be a misalignment of values if the boyfriend expects sex but she's waiting for 0.98
07:50:08.700 marriage yes although thank you although it would i mean it would also be fair if they get into a
07:50:15.400 relationship and then she's like well i'm gonna wait until marriage and he's like that's a
07:50:20.100 misalignment i'm breaking up with you um but okay you think it's wrong uh assault you also think
07:50:27.080 it's wrong to break up and then because she could be depressed she could be something something's
07:50:32.160 wrong with her you're gonna go to therapy before you even break up with her couples therapy
07:50:35.580 psychiatrist whatever okay i'll make a i'll make a concession whatever um i would say if it is a
07:50:43.120 difference in libido i think that's a fair thing to like break break up with someone for sex is a
07:50:47.320 very part important part of relationship for many people um but i would say if it is something where
07:50:52.660 of course maybe your wife just gave birth and she doesn't want to have sex for a few months or she's
07:50:57.500 pregnant or she's going through postpartum depression you know i think um you shouldn't
07:51:01.440 necessarily just break up with your partner because they may be going through a phase if
07:51:04.640 there are other factors that are you know affecting that but if it is a difference in libido i think
07:51:08.920 that's a fair reason to end a relationship based for some people's preferences yeah it depends on
07:51:12.780 the you know oh it depends on the you know tilt it down oh i don't know how it keeps going up
07:51:19.820 this is casper the ghost it's patrick sorry girl yikes oh i'm gonna go to the bathroom real quick 0.85
07:51:27.800 What, did she fart? 0.97
07:51:29.240 No, she got a piece of chicken on me.
07:51:31.060 No, I didn't.
07:51:33.340 You non-consensually got chicken on our beloved guest?
07:51:37.880 I think she did.
07:51:39.360 Wait, do you not like chicken?
07:51:40.440 Because last time I dropped it on the floor and she almost freaked out. 0.88
07:51:42.600 You got chicken on Aunt Jemima? 0.94
07:51:44.920 I don't know, because I dropped chicken earlier and touched her leg 0.82
07:51:49.240 and she freaked out on me.
07:51:51.340 Is she vegetarian?
07:51:53.660 Well, I don't know.
07:51:54.600 She didn't like the chicken fall. 1.00
07:51:55.620 She's Muslim, but I think that's pork. 1.00
07:51:56.980 No, but the chicken literally just flicked off my hand 1.00
07:52:00.540 Oh my god
07:52:01.840 Literally flicked off
07:52:03.880 Worst things have been flicked off on me, okay?
07:52:08.020 On me or?
07:52:09.080 On you?
07:52:10.220 Wait, on her?
07:52:11.200 On whoever, okay? That works with whoever
07:52:13.600 Oh, shit 0.99
07:52:15.020 Oh boy, there's a lot of jokes in there 1.00
07:52:18.260 Okay
07:52:18.520 So, wrong to break up with the girlfriend?
07:52:23.600 Yeah, I still think so
07:52:24.800 Honestly
07:52:25.340 why is it wrong though because if you're looking at it like like pre-marital sex like it just opens
07:52:33.500 doors to so many things like that shouldn't be happening before marriage in my opinion i think
07:52:37.780 the example here though is granting that like is it just in marriage it's not a qualm about
07:52:42.540 like this is this is a relationship where sex has already occurred okay so it's either like
07:52:48.340 it's a relationship where they're not waiting until marriage or they're already married say
07:52:54.100 Because I'm going to agree.
07:52:55.740 Well.
07:52:57.880 I think it's just something that needs to be heavily discussed.
07:53:00.000 Because obviously one person's not having satisfaction from it.
07:53:03.700 One person's not liking it.
07:53:04.760 And those things need to be discussed.
07:53:06.120 Why am I not liking this?
07:53:07.840 Why are you liking this?
07:53:08.900 I think it's just a matter of discussion.
07:53:10.780 Well, I think you can have a discussion.
07:53:12.420 But I think ultimately if you can't agree on it, then maybe breaking up.
07:53:16.520 Maybe after therapy, psychiatry, there's no solution.
07:53:19.800 LB, go ahead. 0.94
07:53:20.540 what if like you've been with this person for 30 years and then now you're old and either the woman
07:53:25.460 goes to menopause or the man starts having ed is that would you really dump 30 years down the drain
07:53:32.540 because you guys aged and now like you lost your sex drive you know yeah because it happens we get
07:53:38.100 older i think the length of the relationship is going to be a factor here but i mean i think that
07:53:42.620 we can go into these like super extremes in that situation and i think the longer you've been with
07:53:47.600 somebody there's there's more of a you know uh there's there's more of a relationship there so
07:53:54.580 there's more leeway kids dying however um i think like you look at the typical length of a relationship
07:54:01.640 which say it's a year right it might not actually be that but like a lot of relationships um i don't
07:54:08.740 know um if over the course of a year you initially were having sex and then by like six months in
07:54:16.060 And she was like turning you down 75% of the time.
07:54:19.760 There might be problems then within the relationship for that to happen.
07:54:22.960 So, yeah, but you can explore those things.
07:54:24.520 But the idea here is it's like, say there's not some, like we can always add on all these extra details and be like, okay, well, you know, he's having problems.
07:54:35.600 She's having problems.
07:54:36.460 but like in an otherwise normal relationship healthy relationship but there's a mismatch of
07:54:43.520 libido and she's causing the dead bedroom or the man he's rejecting her i don't have a double 1.00
07:54:50.360 standard here if the woman is sexually dissatisfied i don't think it's wrong for the woman to break up 0.87
07:54:57.020 with a guy now my it's not like okay she turns you down once he turns you down once dump them
07:55:03.360 this is like a pattern
07:55:05.040 like repeated 0.78
07:55:05.760 are you having sex at least once a month 1.00
07:55:08.880 bro that sucks 1.00
07:55:10.220 once a month you think that's good 0.99
07:55:12.960 I mean I think it depends
07:55:14.960 on each couple once a month
07:55:17.140 I would argue oh my god
07:55:18.720 we might as well just be roommates
07:55:20.020 no exactly but like once a month might be okay for her
07:55:22.520 but like there's a lot of people who are extremely dissatisfied
07:55:24.880 other intimate things you can do 0.99
07:55:26.540 like what blowjobs 0.99
07:55:28.260 yeah I mean there's other intimate parts 0.99
07:55:30.320 if you're getting a blowy why not just go all the way 1.00
07:55:33.100 because maybe she don't want to maybe maybe she doesn't want to maybe it's not that maybe she
07:55:39.140 didn't consent brian well it's not we're not having a conversation about consent here but
07:55:43.320 what i'm talking about is um assuming a relationship where you've already had sex so
07:55:49.120 it's not like okay well we're we're ramping up so okay the first date kiss second date
07:55:55.480 second base third date uh third bit like this is a relationship where you've already had sex
07:56:02.680 so it's like i mean look it's can i give a hypothetical it's possible you could be in a
07:56:07.420 actually you know it's funny wait actually you know what there's been girls i've dated 0.99
07:56:13.880 that i didn't want to fuck but i just wanted to head 0.99
07:56:18.660 um yeah so how does that work understand the view wait how does that work then like within you like 0.99
07:56:26.560 what was the sole reasoning of it just like not catching it was either the head was so good i was
07:56:31.420 just like yeah be gone okay be gone that's nice were you hurt when they left you for that reason
07:56:39.040 did they leave you for that reason or was there more reasons what was your longest relationship
07:56:44.940 five years why'd you break up my heart why is that ouch why i just can't imagine breaking up
07:56:51.940 after five years she's a sensitive girl oh i can't imagine well i mean you broke up after being 1.00
07:56:57.340 engaged in having the wedding yeah that shit fucking hurts your heart bad oh the wedding 0.99
07:57:02.400 was wait may i ask why the breakup happened why the breakup happened if you don't mind i don't 1.00
07:57:06.960 so it was an on again yeah the five-year one was on again off again it was when i was much younger
07:57:13.520 i've had a few long-term relationships and i guess what i'd consider long-term is like a year
07:57:18.280 yeah around a year a year plus right um almost all the women i've dated um like who i've had
07:57:26.100 long-term relationships with which is uh i don't know three or four at this point i guess um not
07:57:31.640 counting the five-year one yeah they were great women i've you know okay occasionally you'll have 0.63
07:57:37.660 an argument here or there but great women don't have anything negative to say about them uh they
07:57:43.360 were good people it didn't work out um but nothing bad to say about them okay the five-year relationship
07:57:49.540 i was young naive inexperienced um and i would say it was a bit toxic on like whose end would
07:57:58.500 you say primarily hers primarily hers but i do believe and maybe you guys can maybe resonate a
07:58:07.100 bit with this if you're like reactive toxicity i guess if you're dating someone who's conducting
07:58:17.800 themselves in a certain way or um being toxic that can bring out toxicity in you i do agree
07:58:25.300 now i believe people ultimately i believe people have um people are responsible for how they behave
07:58:31.740 themselves um but i think there's levels of provocation yeah um so this was an on again 0.93
07:58:37.700 off again relationship and um the reason for the honestly we broke up so many fucking times 0.81
07:58:43.220 I couldn't tell you young 0.99
07:58:45.120 naive inexperienced
07:58:47.000 and
07:58:48.020 I'm pretty sure 1.00
07:58:51.820 she had borderline personality 0.99
07:58:53.720 disorder
07:58:54.260 never again
07:58:56.340 was she diagnosed or you thought that 1.00
07:58:59.080 so look maybe she was bipolar 1.00
07:59:01.280 she didn't tell me
07:59:05.700 she was diagnosed and you're going to be like
07:59:07.600 Brian you're not the one to
07:59:09.240 she had BPD
07:59:11.720 okay maybe she had bipolar it's very similar okay for sure it could have been bipolar
07:59:15.740 but it was a very more intense i'm pretty sure based on how she conducted herself it was
07:59:21.040 bpd really okay does she have like limerence over you like limerence where she gets like 0.77
07:59:26.660 really obsessed you've been the center of her of her world obsessive behavior very obsessive yes
07:59:31.720 okay that could also be bipolar too very very obsessive very um uh well i guess this would
07:59:38.640 also apply to bipolar but um would she would cause a huge thing huge argument and then um i would
07:59:48.780 break up with her every time when i say it was on again off again it was you there's maybe one time 1.00
07:59:53.580 she broke up with me and then she still came back i would end it every single time she would come
07:59:58.800 back how come you would allow it like allow her to come back or like take back like was it
08:00:03.220 connection base just like years you this is like back in the early 2010s where i feel like people
08:00:09.220 uh people weren't quite as tuned into certain behaviors now with like rampant
08:00:17.720 social media like people are more aware of some of this stuff illnesses but like back then you're
08:00:24.720 just like oh she's a bit quirky you know uh but uh sorry what was the question again because i did
08:00:30.560 have a good answer to it why'd you keep letting her back okay so one inexperience in naivete so 0.97
08:00:36.520 um one of the things was so i'd break up with her and i'd be like you did this wrong and she would
08:00:44.280 say you're right what i did was wrong i won't do it again and very like almost like a she could be 0.69
08:00:53.900 a fucking method actor very sincere when she i've never do it again who knows never do it 0.62
08:01:00.540 again actually this is funny because i think this is maybe the first time i'm sharing this on the 0.98
08:01:04.180 podcast she'd never do it again uh and that would last for three days a day a week a month and then 1.00
08:01:14.920 she would do the thing again worse would she do it so for example like what no would she do it
08:01:21.640 would she do it double that when she when she would repeat it would she make it like or is it 0.93
08:01:26.820 just different things every time she would repeat the bad behavior was it worse the next time she 0.90
08:01:30.580 did yeah sometimes yes and then there would be new different things that she would do but like
08:01:34.640 for example um our very first time hanging out this is the level uh first time hanging out and
08:01:41.780 keep in mind we were both young you know um she went through my phone when i went to the bathroom
08:01:46.540 first time hanging out and we like okay she just might be like was she latina um well so this is
08:01:55.180 what happened so mind you like we hadn't had a conversation literally met her a week prior i 0.99
08:02:01.020 it wasn't dating app it was just i met her when i was out and uh she asian um oh yeah they are a
08:02:09.880 little crazy latina and asians are usually very obsessed she's vietnamese okay so that's of the 0.59
08:02:16.680 asians i don't think she had any mental innocence you got filipinos and vietnamese remember i told 1.00
08:02:21.920 and so uh the very first time we hung out she goes through my phone i went to the bathroom
08:02:28.200 and she looked at it because i was like i don't think i had um i think i at this point bro this 0.60
08:02:33.900 is aging me bro i think i had a fucking flip phone at the time so there's no there's no passcode 0.95
08:02:40.000 there's no facial recognition this is like 2012 or some shit uh barack obama is president and she uh 0.99
08:02:49.160 so she goes through my flip phone and she's looking at my shit and i was like i mean look 0.96
08:02:54.780 um when you're 22 23 or whatever whatever age i was at the time um and you just meet somebody new 0.72
08:03:01.480 like this was not my girlfriend so i was texting other women but it's like i met this is our first
08:03:10.340 date yeah you guys weren't exclusive this is our first date right so i was like is it odd for me 0.91
08:03:15.040 to be and then so i come back and she's pissed as fuck now mind you there was no i wasn't like 0.58
08:03:21.880 you're my girlfriend where i love you it wasn't like i'm actually people i'm the opposite of 0.99
08:03:27.320 whatever the fuck love bombing is good luck getting a love out of me um i'm the opposite 0.99
08:03:34.060 of that shit i i think so anyways at least you're a lover boy stop with that bs 1.00
08:03:39.160 you're just traumatized you're just traumatized i'm the least romantic dude ever because you're 1.00
08:03:45.740 just traumatized you gave up okay i'm not a love bomber you have but so so some people might be
08:03:52.260 like well brian she thought that you know you no no so okay she looks through my phone and she 0.95
08:03:59.480 fucking storms out she she's upset what did she find other women that he was texting other women 0.98
08:04:05.820 I wasn't by the way keep in mind 0.99
08:04:08.320 I actually wasn't like I wasn't sleeping 0.73
08:04:10.580 With any other girls but there was like maybe 1.00
08:04:12.320 One or two girls other women 0.88
08:04:14.100 Wait how long were you guys talking before this like
08:04:16.040 I had met her a week prior
08:04:18.040 And then this is our
08:04:19.460 And I met her like 30 minutes
08:04:22.260 Got her number and then like through the week
08:04:24.300 I was texting her I was like hey let's
08:04:25.640 Let's meet up
08:04:26.620 Obviously it's not like the nicest thing to see but at the same time
08:04:30.000 It's not warranted that kind of reaction
08:04:31.640 It's not like the nicest
08:04:32.760 I know people with DPD
08:04:34.020 i know people with bpd no one's defending that i know people bpd and they don't do that she just 0.92
08:04:40.360 might be crazy because she's vietnamese i'm gonna be honest that's just yeah probably yeah 0.66
08:04:44.260 yeah it's a cultural thing storms out and by the way we did have sex like right then like right 0.99
08:04:52.040 before so i'm like washing my shit up okay oh right before she went through your phone at the 0.98
08:04:57.640 park no we had she just came over to my place oh oh so this is like after so we hooked up and i go 0.98
08:05:04.480 to the bathroom whatever and then so i believe it was like post first time having sex i was like 1.00
08:05:10.360 damn i because up until then i was like this girl's fucking great sex is great pussy bomb 1.00
08:05:15.980 it grips like a million dollar pussy grips like a corporate handshake okay oh that's a good way 1.00
08:05:22.800 to put it that's crazy so like i was like holy fuck i this i really like this girl come back to 1.00
08:05:29.380 the room i don't know why but she's pissed as fuck she's like i'm leaving and i was like is uh did i 0.99
08:05:37.340 do something wrong and she's like no and then she leaves and i was like i was like what the fuck 0.95
08:05:43.740 just happened and then she um i don't know if i it was so long ago i don't know if i texted her i 0.83
08:05:49.740 was like hey is everything okay like did i say something wrong or whatever and she was like i
08:05:54.600 looked at your or wait i don't know if she admitted to it she was honest i don't know if she admitted
08:05:59.220 to it but the communication eventually landed on she was upset i don't know she was like i'm pretty
08:06:07.540 sure she did disclose that she went through what if you guys had sex and your phone went off and
08:06:12.120 then that was she was curious like why your phone blowing up and she looks at it oh that's even worse
08:06:17.500 it actually annoys me if a girl leaves her phone on during sex on i don't know if this is gonna be 0.74
08:06:25.840 crazy i keep mine on silent all the time really but during sex that should definitely has to be
08:06:31.500 i can't be have it hearing a little chirp or a little beep during sex i'm gonna lose it i might 0.53
08:06:37.740 lose it if i hear something yeah that's right i mean that's valid i'm trying to be in the moment
08:06:42.420 and be, you know, in the moment. 0.99
08:06:46.120 But the pussy's so bomb, you shouldn't hear the other noises, you know? 1.00
08:06:49.220 I don't even know. 1.00
08:06:50.160 I'd be like, oh, pussy. 1.00
08:06:52.880 Sometimes, though, it throws you off, you know. 1.00
08:06:55.140 It's just because you're trying to be immersed.
08:06:56.680 You're too aware of your surroundings.
08:06:59.560 You overthink.
08:07:00.660 You overthink way too much.
08:07:01.980 It's because you have OCD.
08:07:03.620 It's because you have OCD, okay?
08:07:05.820 That's why it would throw you off. 1.00
08:07:07.160 Well, the people who fuck while a TV show is on, 0.98
08:07:11.180 that i don't know how they do that it's so fun you never tried it commercial 0.99
08:07:15.780 you look at it and then come back in like a mat like i don't get people who can fuck like 0.98
08:07:22.660 especially if it's tv and there's commercials they're gonna play it's like sham wow slap or 0.99
08:07:28.120 you know what's the fucking it's funny like i can't i would lose my train of thought if some 0.96
08:07:32.840 like infomercial popped on and it's like uh here buy this the slap chop or whatever it's called 0.99
08:07:39.220 what's that what's that fucking thing the the slap chop thing I don't know what anyway so yeah 0.92
08:07:45.620 that was that was a crazy that's a huge thing but okay we love but all my other all my other 0.99
08:07:51.040 girlfriends like some people men sometimes get criticism if the guys like my ex is crazy
08:07:56.600 all my other girlfriends normal nothing but nice things to say about them wish them the best then
08:08:03.280 what'd you do what did I do yeah you just sometimes it doesn't work out oh it just didn't
08:08:07.180 work out it doesn't work out you know sometimes did they move away sometimes she moves away to
08:08:10.940 paris sometimes i just asked back to germany you know why you keep beating people i had an austrian
08:08:16.540 babe oh my god and then they she but she had to go so it was over because you probably called ice
08:08:21.800 on her i yeah i called ice on the austrian exchange student um but uh yeah man it's wait
08:08:29.520 i have a question so like was it your first date and then you slept together and then she checked
08:08:34.760 your phone is that what happened yeah so okay i just wanted to understand the sequence of events
08:08:39.320 it does make a little bit more sense that's what i was saying comes over we hook up uh-huh
08:08:44.860 so you didn't even take her on a date sorry it's okay no you're same shame
08:08:48.820 we were young we were young that makes sense though okay like she's crazy i did the math he
08:08:57.120 was like in his very early that's what like college people do you don't go yeah but she's
08:09:02.160 serious. You just fuck right away. That's just gross. 1.00
08:09:05.020 Like, that's just not... Yeah, it's
08:09:06.280 because she just... Well, okay, so... 0.99
08:09:08.520 That's just morally overly wrong.
08:09:10.280 It's just, she's just, she just has a different...
08:09:12.540 Why is it morally wrong? Generational
08:09:13.900 marriage, yeah. If you're in marriage...
08:09:15.920 Are you a virgin? Yeah. I'm waiting
08:09:17.860 until marriage. Period. Oh, period. 0.62
08:09:21.420 Hold on.
08:09:22.600 Are you a virgin, Brian?
08:09:25.660 I would infer not.
08:09:28.060 Brian...
08:09:28.540 Brian...
08:09:29.480 Brian is
08:09:33.040 Re-virginizing
08:09:34.040 Okay
08:09:45.320 Okay
08:09:47.120 Alright
08:09:49.960 She saw the sparkle in her eyes
08:09:52.120 I don't know where I'm going
08:09:53.180 The minimum height, we did that
08:09:56.200 We were talking about regularly 1.00
08:09:57.660 moving on a woman should not be rejected because of her weight why is that i think everyone has
08:10:05.500 preference i'm actually wait i said it's okay all of you said it's okay besides aub aubry
08:10:11.760 aubry wait i might take back my answer that's fine no that's fine sometimes that's what i said
08:10:18.380 sometimes people circle these and maybe they either whatever um i mean they're allowed to be
08:10:23.280 Yeah, but...
08:10:24.740 You're not going to get canceled.
08:10:26.880 You're fine.
08:10:27.260 I was like, wait, I was like, did I answer?
08:10:29.080 I was like, skimming through. 1.00
08:10:30.980 Getting laid is harder for women. 1.00
08:10:33.560 Aubrey, you agree with that. 1.00
08:10:35.780 Why is that?
08:10:37.220 Because I think men kind of dictate it in a sense. 1.00
08:10:39.740 Because I've seen a lot of women throw themselves at men. 1.00
08:10:42.360 And I've seen quite a few of them just be like, no, she's gross. 1.00
08:10:45.000 It's because she's too desperate.
08:10:47.220 Like, I feel like, I don't know.
08:10:50.160 So, hold on.
08:10:51.300 but i feel like it's also both sides so like i would honestly agree that it's harder for both
08:10:56.780 of them like depending on the man and the woman i think it's very different but this is also a
08:11:00.660 topic i'm not very like but so yeah like brad pitt when he's 20 may have a better job than a
08:11:07.720 morbidly like a 500 pound woman getting laid but like the general experience yeah woman could get 1.00
08:11:17.140 like i would argue um i i would argue that a below average woman has the equivalent value 1.00
08:11:25.640 sexual options as a like top tier guy not the same quality but same quantity like any of you
08:11:34.980 women here um here's a difference like there's probably some dudes in the street right now at 0.99
08:11:40.780 fucking 1 a.m you guys could go in the street and like go up to a dude and be like you want to hook 0.98
08:11:46.400 want some pussy and like you might be a bit unsafe doing that but there are some dudes who'll be like 1.00
08:11:54.120 fuck yeah if i go into the street at 1 a.m do you want some pussy i walk up to a woman and i'm like 1.00
08:12:02.800 want some dick no and i'll agree i'm gonna get the cops called or get my ass i'm gonna get my 1.00
08:12:09.200 ass beat but i mean look even during the middle of the day i did this social experiment many years 1.00
08:12:14.400 ago god uh oh my god well i did i had a woman so okay i had a woman go up to a hundred men 0.98
08:12:21.700 and ask them for sex did they see the camera like do they know they're okay it was hidden camera 0.97
08:12:27.760 uh and then i walked up and this was when i was fit i had a six-pack and i was a i was a more 1.00
08:12:37.160 attractive dude you know i wouldn't do this shit it would be it was brutal then it would be way 0.95
08:12:42.620 more brutal now it's okay you'll be back what's that you'll come back yeah i'm gonna have my 0.98
08:12:47.180 my rebounds or whatever yeah you are i'm gonna i'm gonna put glp1 while he's yeah she's gonna
08:12:51.860 and neutrophil or minoxyl uh the woman and by the way i also think that like the men who said no 0.98
08:13:00.980 they were they weren't not down to fuck they were like this has to be like a scam or something 0.99
08:13:09.840 whereas when i went up to the women it was just like 0.99
08:13:12.400 zero actually when i did it in europe i got one yes oh okay yeah did the woman get mad when you 0.98
08:13:21.100 did it did what did they get mad when you said you want dick is that how you like how was their 0.93
08:13:26.420 like reaction no it was more like it was much more affable so it'd be like hey what's up hey i just um 0.98
08:13:32.620 i thought you're really cute just wanted to know if you wanted to hook up oh hey that's a good 0.99
08:13:35.800 That's about as diplomatic as you can ask someone point-blank to fuck. 0.99
08:13:40.960 Yeah, that's kind of weird. 0.99
08:13:41.460 Like, excuse me, dear, would you like to engage in carnal knowledge? 0.96
08:13:46.320 Would you like to engage in premarital sex? 0.92
08:13:50.380 Wait. 0.98
08:13:51.760 There's another one that's funny.
08:13:53.700 Excuse...
08:13:54.100 Wait, it's...
08:13:55.860 Anyways.
08:13:58.480 Would you like to engage in coitus?
08:14:01.300 Coitus, I don't know, whatever.
08:14:03.100 All right, so getting laid is harder. 0.98
08:14:05.800 getting laid is harder for women come on aubrey come but also i'm not very educated on this like
08:14:13.240 i don't have that like experience i don't i don't go out like that i'm not like you do reject men 0.99
08:14:17.360 right yeah and they're offering dick yeah that means they want you when a man hits on you they 0.91
08:14:23.280 usually want punani oh yeah any i think any woman any woman here at the table you could go download 1.00
08:14:31.020 tinder right now and get have sex right after the podcast right after the podcast there's probably 0.99
08:14:38.640 even though it's like 1 a.m there's some fucking uh dudes who are up late swiping on tinder you 0.98
08:14:44.220 match with them and you're like i'm down to come over to your house are you down they're like let's 0.99
08:14:49.140 fucking do it men in order to get laid sometimes you'll get a rarely sometimes you might you might 0.97
08:14:56.700 get the rare encounter uh usually there's like a uh there's a two-week waiting period 1.00
08:15:06.680 like just for hookup or like you're just well and i'm that's not he's saying that's the quickest
08:15:11.740 you can typically get a woman no well that's not i mean sometimes it's quicker but i'm saying like
08:15:16.560 men can't get like i think any woman if she wanted to with like 99 confidence if y'all want to get
08:15:26.680 laid like for you it's
08:15:28.680 not luck 1.00
08:15:29.320 women it's not getting lucky 1.00
08:15:32.480 you pick the guy 1.00
08:15:34.380 if you want to have sex with him 1.00
08:15:36.340 you can 0.99
08:15:37.600 maybe not that guy but you will land on
08:15:40.680 a guy if you're willing to 0.96
08:15:42.680 have sex you you get to 1.00
08:15:44.640 have sex for men 1.00
08:15:46.620 nope 0.98
08:15:48.660 not the case
08:15:49.980 yep you can just be
08:15:54.620 we can't buy your and sell your
08:15:56.540 markets that's how it is it's so it's very scary i'll change my opinion 0.99
08:16:00.300 christmas coming around so you better be on the good list so he gets some pussy okay is that how 0.99
08:16:09.260 men are oppressed yeah because they don't get pussy that they're oppressed because they don't 1.00
08:16:14.960 get pussy on demand because they can't go up to women and say i want to give you something yeah 1.00
08:16:19.140 because they're scared of rejection why you only live once you're gonna get rejected here and there 1.00
08:16:25.560 but you're gonna hit the jackpot if you if you keep trying okay well look um rejection is
08:16:33.540 redirection yeah but i mean that's a separate convo but i mean i've shot my shot yeah yeah
08:16:42.220 that's good keep doing it don't give up not just shot like i mean keep in mind i was i i'm uh i'm
08:16:49.080 right so i was around before dating apps i was around before instagram i was dating before
08:16:54.500 Instagram was even the thing you had to meet people in the wild that's even better so you'd
08:17:00.740 you'd have to approach a girl like if you saw a girl that you thought was cute or you liked
08:17:04.420 you'd have to approach her like at your college or after class or if you had a social group or
08:17:10.460 whatever or if you were going to bars or clubs or parties or anything like that that's how I met my 0.85
08:17:14.700 boyfriend was like social yeah I hate that online bullshit but back then like now there's the 0.74
08:17:22.040 comfort of well i'll swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe and then i can just find somebody 0.98
08:17:27.200 this way it might kind of dating app suck or whatever but back then you unless you're doing 1.00
08:17:33.680 some like crazy shit like uh fucking craigslist ads which the fuck you had to go out and meet the 0.99
08:17:40.880 person so you couldn't there was no fallback like you if unless you just want to be celibate 1.00
08:17:45.540 but if you wanted pussy you can there are no dating apps yeah you gotta be like for it you 0.99
08:17:51.820 got to you had to shoot your shot you know and i never just wanted i'm a relationship guy you know 0.99
08:17:59.900 i'm a relationship he can't even say with his eyes open i'm a relationship
08:18:03.860 look you like shook his head you know what you will find the best girl ever if you learn to
08:18:11.280 listen the words that come out of her mouth instead of redirecting everything how long
08:18:15.840 have you been single i'm a virgin oh my god okay stop i don't i'm a virgin i don't i don't know 0.55
08:18:22.780 are you be virginizing huh is that i'm just look yeah when that noise came on i'm just looking 0.99
08:18:28.380 for a woman with a big labia okay art okay and labia um and i just haven't found it yet that 1.00
08:18:36.300 big heart would like to be listened to instead of she needs a heart-shaped box is there one
08:18:41.680 specific woman that inspired blm for you he wants to i'm just curious i don't need the story i'm
08:18:47.700 just curious there's one woman back when i was i think 19 she's the labia that got away
08:18:54.520 you let her know but i didn't you know you heard that do you know how like with um
08:19:01.400 sometimes you as you get older you your tastes change um you know like with like people who
08:19:09.380 the first time they drink like beer or alcohol they're gross but then after like wine for example
08:19:15.300 first time somebody drinks wine it's like coughing and shit every time by then after a while people 0.99
08:19:21.380 fucking love wine they like the taste initially i let she fell through she fell through but 0.99
08:19:30.740 because you were quick to judge like how you always are and you don't let her speak 0.99
08:19:34.280 i don't think you have to speak let's talk about the labia rub damn and i you know what i wasn't 0.91
08:19:40.140 as much of an i wasn't as much of an appreciator back then she's the labia that got away
08:19:47.000 that was the most heartfelt i have heard this man talk all night i think i actually felt something
08:19:53.600 sometimes she was the mouth that got away oh yeah sometimes a woman's the mouth like oh my god it's
08:20:00.300 so bad you're done you're literally terrible you're done it's because he's a lover boy and
08:20:04.460 he's trying to redirect from that now look okay yeah he is a rage baiter i am a relationship guy 0.98
08:20:10.780 okay we actually didn't talk shit about you when you left yeah we didn't we talked about 0.96
08:20:15.240 uh body count let's do body count what's your body count i'm not doing this this is like the 0.96
08:20:20.840 fourth time aubrey what's your body audrey aubrey sorry i had it right the first time
08:20:26.280 Aubrey, sorry. What's your body count?
08:20:28.140 Zero. Body count? I'm not saying it. You already know.
08:20:30.480 Come on. I don't know. I was just here.
08:20:31.980 I was just here. 20? You're right.
08:20:33.800 You got 20? Like my friend Brian, I'm also
08:20:36.120 a virgin. It is not 20. Shit.
08:20:37.920 Really? You sure? Oh no. 1.00
08:20:40.100 The fucking bugs are coming. 1.00
08:20:42.020 Why? Okay, go ahead. One. 1.00
08:20:44.360 One? Zero?
08:20:46.820 I'm done.
08:20:47.660 Okay, alright. If you remember it,
08:20:49.900 say it. Well, I know when you first came
08:20:51.920 on, I think it was three.
08:20:53.680 The recent time, I told you.
08:20:55.820 Well before I met my boyfriend
08:20:57.840 You don't remember
08:21:00.160 Girl you keep going on this show 0.95
08:21:04.980 They're going to track all your bodies
08:21:05.980 He keeps track I know he does
08:21:08.620 Yo somebody in the chat
08:21:10.120 What was the episode number that you were on
08:21:12.540 It was like 309 I think
08:21:13.820 The last one I was on
08:21:15.020 With the two OnlyFans girls 1.00
08:21:16.720 What's her body count 0.99
08:21:20.300 Somebody in the chat
08:21:20.940 I'm done
08:21:22.680 He's asked me this four times now
08:21:25.400 I think we're done with the questionnaire
08:21:27.960 then we just have some pre-show notes
08:21:29.320 I have some pre-show notes on you
08:21:33.920 the flirting
08:21:36.620 I'm just searching up how to
08:21:40.020 turn off the airbag in his car
08:21:41.960 what car do you drive?
08:21:46.780 I'm not going to reveal that
08:21:48.100 just for security reasons
08:21:49.480 I drive a car
08:21:52.500 I'll find out 1.00
08:21:54.260 What the fuck? 0.99
08:21:55.600 Is it like a car or like an SUV? 0.99
08:21:58.060 I'm not going to reveal.
08:21:58.620 I know it's an SUV.
08:22:00.060 That's why I was right.
08:22:01.040 He drives some kind of SUV.
08:22:02.760 I'm not going to reveal details about my car.
08:22:03.440 It's okay, don't.
08:22:04.200 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
08:22:04.680 Because there's crazy Vietnamese girls out there that'll get you. 1.00
08:22:07.260 I'll say this. 1.00
08:22:08.680 Actually, I'm not even going to reveal.
08:22:11.780 I'm actually worried he might be driving a very small car. 1.00
08:22:15.860 The fuck? 0.99
08:22:16.160 Imagine he just drives like a mini car. 1.00
08:22:18.740 Let's not discuss my driving.
08:22:24.260 I actually
08:22:25.460 I'm going to buy a new car
08:22:26.900 I bought a car in 2013
08:22:30.140 Oh so it's a 2013
08:22:31.640 Oh so I was right
08:22:33.720 Remember I said 2013 Wrangler
08:22:35.300 I didn't say what year it was
08:22:36.700 Maybe it was a used car
08:22:37.800 Maybe I've got a used car 0.99
08:22:40.360 Maybe I've got a fucking 99 Corolla 0.99
08:22:42.740 Don't even lie to me 0.96
08:22:43.520 I know it's a 2013
08:22:44.440 I'm just saying
08:22:47.400 He was like 20 something at that time
08:22:49.580 I highly doubt it was a new car
08:22:50.920 Yeah, that's true.
08:22:52.420 I don't really care.
08:22:54.720 I don't care about those superficial things.
08:22:56.680 Could I buy a Ferrari?
08:22:59.060 Yes.
08:22:59.800 Would I buy one?
08:23:00.960 Maybe if I make a bit more money.
08:23:02.420 Okay, don't get a Ferrari.
08:23:03.860 It's too showy and douchey, okay? 1.00
08:23:05.660 I don't like that shit. 1.00
08:23:06.340 I love Ferrari, Lambo. 1.00
08:23:08.100 I'd get shit. 0.99
08:23:08.720 No, my ex would pick me up in a Lambo, and I hated it. 0.99
08:23:10.980 And I would make him pick me up in his Tesla.
08:23:12.440 I'm just kidding.
08:23:12.940 I'm a starving college student. 0.99
08:23:14.060 Send more Super Chats. 0.95
08:23:16.060 No, I, guys, I, hey.
08:23:18.500 This is showboating.
08:23:19.460 i spend my money on the podcast i um i'm still driving the same car i have one car still driving
08:23:27.640 the same car i was driving it doesn't have airbags that i bought in 2013 no airbags yeah the airbags 0.91
08:23:34.480 are disabled my fucking ex so is mine all right uh here let me blast through the notes ladies and 0.98
08:23:42.120 gentlemen um andrea oh that's the flake oh you guys want to know the other reason i was pissed 0.99
08:23:48.480 off we had people flaking out i saw that and uh you said it was more people like this person where
08:23:55.040 are you like oh yeah this girl uh and i literally followed i called her last night because i i was
08:24:02.300 like i think she's gonna flake you had a feeling called her up i sometimes you know it's funny
08:24:06.100 gut feeling this is interesting i can often predict who's gonna know like who's gonna flake
08:24:13.680 did you think i would ever flake uh no not after your last appearance i thought you're pretty solid
08:24:21.820 like for showing up yeah i i thought aubrey i thought there was a slight risk of aubrey flaking
08:24:29.560 like i put it at like 20 but she showed up w aubrey uh but no this and it's unfortunate because 1.00
08:24:36.680 she's um she's a feminist muslim oh and but like more hardcore muslim i guess she wears a hijab oh 1.00
08:24:45.540 lord interesting and she's like i don't know she's married she's an extremist arranged marriage 0.71
08:24:50.660 thank god she's not here i do not if you're wearing a hijab in a and okay it's the united 1.00
08:24:57.620 states okay it's the united states you bring that shit here it's really gonna piss me off 0.99
08:25:01.640 like you are oppressing women okay women in afghanistan are fighting for their rights and 1.00
08:25:06.080 a woman does not have a right to wear a hijab if she wants to in itself is oppressive what are you
08:25:10.780 talking about because they no you know what i'm speaking from can you let me finish i've had 0.99
08:25:15.800 hijabis literally tell me that i used to be muslim right and i would talk to them like i had friends 0.99
08:25:21.340 who were hijabis and the reason i'm not friends with them you know they're like you are letting 0.99
08:25:24.680 us women down you stop wearing your hijab you stop praying on the quran i've had a lot of people 0.99
08:25:30.460 say you know how messed up that is yeah but what i'm trying to also reflect is that a lot of women
08:25:36.020 in Afghanistan don't want to wear the hijab,
08:25:38.380 don't want to cover their face, don't want to wear 1.00
08:25:39.980 a burqa. And there are people 1.00
08:25:41.900 here, I'm not saying all of them, but most of them
08:25:43.960 are here trying to force that 0.86
08:25:45.860 onto other women because 1.00
08:25:47.620 they think that's the way and that we are 1.00
08:25:49.880 frowned upon because we show
08:25:51.680 our hair.
08:25:53.800 That's what I'm saying. 1.00
08:25:55.380 It's okay to wear a hijab until you try to 1.00
08:25:57.840 force it onto someone. 1.00
08:25:59.420 That's my biggest issue.
08:26:00.400 I love that for you.
08:26:02.100 We had the no-show, we had flakes.
08:26:04.800 um she would have judged you okay it actually i feel like it worked out okay though because
08:26:10.520 the people that did still remain were like i think there was a strong group that offered
08:26:18.340 good convo with me and andrew so like in an instance where we have good people
08:26:25.320 like even if it's a smaller panel like it was tonight i actually think that's good because
08:26:29.700 i don't know you get a little deeper sometimes because you have less people you have less people
08:26:34.860 so you don't have to give like other people as much time so you well you can give the people
08:26:39.360 who are here more time i guess um unless you're you and you
08:26:44.280 yeah she probably couldn't make it the girl who got who i kicked out she got a lot
08:26:49.940 you got a lot do you know my name um he called your name like a hundred times 0.98
08:26:55.340 uterus my name womb vagina he's making fun of your instagram yeah he's making because he knows 0.90
08:27:01.620 you just called your name earlier remember yeah what is it pink card i don't know 0.99
08:27:06.700 show of hands who has a big labia no the only labia is here thank you big labia by the way 1.00
08:27:15.680 do you guys think it's offensive if the term pussy in the sense of he's a pussy like he's a 1.00
08:27:23.440 bitch oh no no is that offensive like to say to a man well i would love to say generally speaking 1.00
08:27:29.180 no um i mean yes if you're gonna like really talk about like where it's derived from sure 1.00
08:27:35.000 because it's insinuating that women are weak and a pussy is weak and then you're making the 1.00
08:27:39.140 comparison of a man to a pussy and then that automatically makes an association with women 1.00
08:27:43.560 but men get so mad when we call them pussy i just want to take it as that don't you like pussy well 1.00
08:27:48.980 but here's the funny thing there are feminists who get bent out of shape over stuff like that 1.00
08:27:53.660 because they're saying like you're referencing a woman's anatomy and using it as a bad thing but 1.00
08:28:00.060 chat and i'm actually blanking on this it actually isn't a reference to female anatomy chat what's 0.99
08:28:07.480 the word a cat it's like pussy nomina chat what is pussy like when you're using pussy as an insult 0.99
08:28:14.820 towards a guy who's like a coward or a bitch it's actually chat chat chat chat find me the word 1.00
08:28:22.540 pussy well i don't know i don't even know how to spell it chat what's the word 1.00
08:28:25.880 chat you know what i'm talking about chat but then people say he's being a dick you know it's 1.00
08:28:31.220 the same thing hello he's being a penis nope not pacification yeah puss pussilandimus wait 1.00
08:28:38.840 tiffany do you see that can you google that the puss pussilandimus can we stop with all these new 0.99
08:28:43.940 names and words oh wait guys can i ask you to bring a topic up google it tiffany did you google
08:28:49.080 it tiffany he lets me it's kind of important tiffany did you google it oh whoops what the 0.95
08:28:52.180 fuck okay how do you guys feel when transgender people call us this woman when we're just woman 1.00
08:28:57.480 oh shit i mean i don't really care i'm deeply offended by that shit 1.00
08:29:01.860 yeah like i don't like it i'm just a woman don't worry about it just ignore it wait did you find 1.00
08:29:06.780 it t-dog you know what i'm saying oh what is that right wait look put this is when guys are saying 1.00
08:29:12.940 you're a pussy it's wait can you click the audio button on that tiffany pusillanimous pusillanimous 1.00
08:29:21.280 i'm just gonna start calling dudes fucking pusillanimous wait but are you sure that's 1.00
08:29:26.720 where pussy is actually derived from how did it end up being like meaning a woman's like private 0.99
08:29:31.640 area then like where does it stem from well it's kind of like how two words can sometimes have like 0.94
08:29:36.400 different definitions well i think people would call women women's private parts cats and that 0.98
08:29:40.700 might be how the like like her kid like you know a pussy is also a cat yeah nonny pussy cat i tell 1.00
08:29:47.860 my kid and come here pussy pussy you learn something every day he responds to it come 1.00
08:29:53.200 here pussy pussy hey guys in the chat i want you guys to call uh dean withers say in the chat right 1.00
08:30:01.440 dean withers is a pusillanimous pusillanimous parker is a pusillanimous who else hassan piker 0.99
08:30:10.320 pusillanimous all of them pusillanimous who are those people all right um let me blast through
08:30:19.640 the notes oh wait tiffany uh we got homegirl aubrey let's pull up her the photos that i
08:30:26.440 pulled up what do you mean photos huh hello yeah he does that he's a stalker
08:30:32.720 wait i look so cute you do you are cute so that's why can you read it can you read it for us
08:30:40.780 only a lucky man gets to be loved by a man hater okay it's it's for engagement
08:30:47.560 you can't prove it yeah we're just trying to make content okay all my content i do have
08:30:52.680 i'd say on my instagram a lot more crazy takes maybe but i do fairly well my instagram reels
08:30:58.200 for engagement purposes like so are you a man hater though men love man haters yes they do
08:31:05.320 they think it's hot they think it's attractive you're not gonna want to be around other men
08:31:10.300 i've had literally men say they love girls who hate men because if they're loved by a man hater
08:31:15.540 that means they're special and yeah you've heard that one it makes them feel special yeah it makes 0.92
08:31:21.500 them feel special man but you know i didn't like men before in like a really retarded way it makes 0.95
08:31:26.660 the guy feel special no but they think it's cute because like obviously we're not actually a man 0.98
08:31:30.500 hater but we say we are but we love them a lot but we don't like to be around other men do you
08:31:35.380 see why i'm going with that i use the term like man hater are you putting that are you picking
08:31:38.340 up what i'm putting down i'm not actually i did i don't agree that men should be hating on women
08:31:42.880 women should be hating on men like i think it creates a lot of problems but it's engagement
08:31:47.060 go back but i would say it's engagement just like how with podcasts and clicking and you're 0.92
08:31:52.560 you're a christian right yes do you know rage bait wait whoops do you know rage baiting is a sin
08:31:57.480 how so it's actually rage baiting is a sin good thing are you are you christian by any chance
08:32:04.560 nope good thing i don't rage bait good thing good thing all right next
08:32:09.460 uh read them for us i am the way i am because my dad would say no and still give me what i want
08:32:16.460 is that true i mean yeah okay next i mean now i'd say when i was a kid like there was authority
08:32:21.780 read this oh my god it looks so good sorry call me crazy but i believe i can have everything i
08:32:27.060 want in this life do you i'm 100 yeah i think if i'm willing okay next the frozen yogurt
08:32:35.580 isn't it weird how men were so loud about lindsey clancy but been quiet about cornell
08:32:41.080 i was arguing the comment section in regards to that's so true the publicity of it to where
08:32:46.820 whether say okay lindsey clancy yes she was in the perfect world she was found guilty whatever
08:32:52.080 it is and same the cornell seven they were also found guilty i noticed that a lot more men were
08:32:57.660 bringing more attention and light to lindsey clancy but they wouldn't almost bring up the
08:33:02.540 light in the sense of the cornell because it puts down the men and they don't want that because i'd
08:33:06.920 say both cases there's still like not a good sustainable about amount of evidence for both
08:33:12.020 but one side was clearly pushing for this you know agenda and the other one wouldn't even
08:33:16.900 acknowledge it i just think they don't want to believe men are bad i think it's a very flawed
08:33:20.660 perspective though to because i don't entirely see this being necessarily a double standard
08:33:26.860 um like because even with the lindsey clancy thing people were being like oh well men are so loud
08:33:33.240 about lindsey clancy but where were the men when this like case that got like a fraction of a
08:33:39.780 fraction of a fraction uh of as much attention of a man who killed his kids where are the men there
08:33:46.240 well the difference there is there's like no men who are wearing blue shirts showing up to the trial
08:33:52.180 of uh baby male baby killers and doing heart signs as the murderer passes this is like a
08:33:59.400 very much wrong but this is a very much a gendered phenomenon what we're seeing with lindsey clancy 1.00
08:34:04.660 where it's like and there's multiple levels to it there's the women who think that she 1.00
08:34:09.940 did kill the kids but they're like they're doing a lot of like hand waving postpartum
08:34:20.340 psychosis do i think i will say with that it's not an excuse whatsoever whatsoever but i do think
08:34:27.240 it can be an up up um like upcoming reason to why she did do it because it's not postpartum
08:34:33.220 depression it was postpartum psychosis
08:34:35.320 which is a little different it's not
08:34:36.940 excusing it whatsoever it's not I'm not
08:34:38.680 she actually showed zero signs of
08:34:41.020 psychosis it's not even clear if she had
08:34:42.720 psychosis that's what they I think 1.00
08:34:44.920 she just murked her kids because she's 1.00
08:34:46.760 what I'm saying is that until the second
08:34:48.900 trial so stop I'm just saying
08:34:50.820 you know what you know who I think killed those kids 0.99
08:34:52.800 you did oh yeah I killed 1.00
08:34:54.880 your this is why you want to peg 0.96
08:34:56.860 it on well that's not
08:34:58.800 the only pegging you do but that's why you want
08:35:00.840 to peg it on Patrick because
08:35:02.840 you actually killed the the three kids yeah you're the one because it's really suspicious
08:35:09.180 that you'd want to try to find a man guilty system it's really suspicious that you try
08:35:14.040 not to find a man guilty that's you you always try not to find a man guilty oh my god yes
08:35:20.100 no i think people who are guilty of uh crimes whether they're until the court decides all right
08:35:27.540 You know you should pay attention to the first trial
08:35:32.900 So you're more up to date
08:35:34.800 For the second trial
08:35:35.880 You should pay attention to what the DA is saying
08:35:37.780 The DA said Patrick said she did it
08:35:40.100 That's the only evidence
08:35:42.600 The DA did not say that
08:35:44.540 Oh you sure
08:35:45.220 You know the DA
08:35:46.460 You personally talk to them 1.00
08:35:48.500 What the fuck is this 0.99
08:35:51.600 Here go ahead pull up the next thing 1.00
08:35:54.280 Let's blast through it
08:35:55.260 and then we got some ticky talks from jamila aunt jemima uh go ahead uh read it i just read that
08:36:03.220 one next one think like a man it's more fun what does that mean i don't i just being honest i don't
08:36:08.880 even write that sounds like don't give a care i would say also like i'm not authentic when i post 0.58
08:36:14.420 like i'll admit that i see someone post what the fuck if it does if it does good view wise i'm 0.50
08:36:18.200 gonna copy it like i just do that because i do get decent views okay i do post some original stuff 0.72
08:36:23.780 wait tiffany google like in the ai mode is it a sin to rage bait that's just a sin rage bait
08:36:31.380 that's in like scripture like yeah no it actually is good like none of us said it actually is in
08:36:37.600 like a way that made sense back then and you'll see why go ahead uh pull it up because we're
08:36:42.060 witches let's see what we have it is a sin to rage bait in fact uh now let's see if there's
08:36:53.620 sowing discord proverbs 6 16 to 19 lists things god hates one who sows discord among brothers 0.89
08:37:01.900 so is rage baiting sowing discord but could it be rage bait or could it just be an open
08:37:07.060 conversation oh my god just my one with my allegedly my one-sided can you read uh make
08:37:11.880 it a bit bigger tiffany can you read ephesians there where is it i'm really blind uh ephesians
08:37:18.240 429
08:37:20.260 Instructs believers
08:37:22.620 To let no corrupting talk
08:37:24.700 Come out of your mouth
08:37:25.860 But only such as is good for building up
08:37:28.780 Is rage baiting building up
08:37:31.300 Is rage baiting corrupting
08:37:33.680 It builds up your anger
08:37:35.000 Scroll down
08:37:35.840 But me having my own take doesn't mean that
08:37:38.520 Read the Proverbs 15
08:37:41.080 1 here
08:37:41.600 It's just in that stirring up anger
08:37:44.140 A harsh word stirs up anger
08:37:46.920 Yeah but we're not using a harsh word
08:37:48.960 But I don't think what I'm saying is a harsh word
08:37:51.020 That could just be any take
08:37:52.240 But that could be up to someone else
08:37:56.360 Alright next image or whatever
08:37:58.180 Next image or whatever
08:37:59.140 It's cause we rage baited him
08:38:01.900 And he's upset
08:38:02.660 Too much English for 11 hours straight
08:38:06.480 Okay
08:38:06.820 That's a lot of work
08:38:08.360 Go ahead
08:38:08.820 Read it
08:38:11.080 I made a video like that too
08:38:14.220 okay me randomly remembering how crazy evil obsessive i used to be but now i'm just a chill 0.95
08:38:18.740 bitch next next or uh sorry read this one when he thinks it's cute when he thinks it's cute and 0.83
08:38:27.540 funny to rage people he's just gonna get rage beaded why are you guys laughing about 1.00
08:38:31.660 I love that shit. 1.00
08:38:33.860 Because men are bigger, faster, stronger. 1.00
08:38:35.680 Yeah, because men are bigger, faster, stronger.
08:38:38.020 They are.
08:38:39.820 Are we going to do Amber Heard here?
08:38:42.700 They're a hunter.
08:38:43.340 Are we going to do Amber Heard where it's like.
08:38:45.360 She's innocent. 0.83
08:38:46.280 She was innocent.
08:38:47.160 They literally proved she was so innocent.
08:38:49.140 She was innocent.
08:38:49.920 There was proof came out.
08:38:51.300 Ah, there we go again.
08:38:52.240 Do you think the world is going to believe you, Johnny Depp, a man.
08:38:55.480 They believe Johnny Depp because everyone loves him. 0.96
08:38:57.780 A man was psychotic.
08:38:59.800 Don't place that on everyone.
08:39:01.000 Yeah, why do you keep doing that? 1.00
08:39:02.400 She just said she wants to beat the fuck out of dogs. 1.00
08:39:04.400 Yeah, and I want to beat you right now. 1.00
08:39:06.740 What the fuck? 1.00
08:39:07.620 That's such a joke. 1.00
08:39:08.460 And you... 1.00
08:39:09.160 The fuck? 1.00
08:39:09.620 Did you say you want to beat him? 1.00
08:39:10.560 Yeah. 0.93
08:39:10.680 You want to beat my... 0.70
08:39:11.700 He was a little scared. 1.00
08:39:12.840 I want to beat that ass, okay? 1.00
08:39:15.100 Whoa, okay. 1.00
08:39:16.080 I'm not into that.
08:39:17.220 I'm not into that.
08:39:18.040 My only fetish is involved...
08:39:19.080 Domestic.
08:39:19.780 Don't make any of us go domestic on you.
08:39:21.420 You're like this close.
08:39:23.640 Okay.
08:39:24.540 Thank you.
08:39:25.420 Next. 1.00
08:39:26.640 What the fuck? 1.00
08:39:27.720 Rage beat it. 1.00
08:39:28.080 How deep did you go on my account?
08:39:29.880 well i only did your tiktok mostly oh go ahead read it okay i pulled everyone i've wanted just 0.98
08:39:36.400 can't make them stay i'm crazy i'm not ugly pulled i thought you were a virgin pulled like 0.95
08:39:42.560 you like what means they showed interest yeah wait is there another meaning there must be a 0.90
08:39:47.200 difference in male definition yeah because no it means like when you bring someone in
08:39:50.960 i wouldn't take trust me when a woman says she pulled a man that does not mean she slept
08:39:54.920 let me ask you a question if i go on just one date with a girl or two dates or three dates 1.00
08:40:05.460 but nothing happens did i pull her you still pulled her into i pulled a baddest bitch on a 0.99
08:40:12.260 date hold would be like um i mean i guess like if you're well i've never heard this before 1.00
08:40:18.860 I think it's only for you
08:40:21.640 Had something
08:40:23.460 When I was single
08:40:25.740 And I'd go to a party
08:40:26.840 I'd be like guys
08:40:27.420 I just pulled the cutest guy 1.00
08:40:29.360 That's not what women mean 1.00
08:40:33.100 We just said 1.00
08:40:34.940 I pulled him
08:40:35.600 It's possible
08:40:39.780 You're just freaky
08:40:41.540 I just learned that 0.92
08:40:42.820 Your mind's just in the gutter all the time
08:40:45.300 His mind's just in the gutter
08:40:47.980 okay oh my god oh that was it he's freaky brian okay uh let's see what else we have 1.00
08:40:53.340 we did all of ella the andrea that's the freaking oh my god the the fat the the the muslim feminist 1.00
08:41:04.200 who just fucking no-showed so rude it's like at least just be like hey i'm a fucking piece of 1.00
08:41:10.340 shit i'm not coming at least say that her husband probably didn't let her come out of the house 1.00
08:41:14.380 Well she reached out to us 1.00
08:41:16.740 Wanted to be on the show
08:41:17.620 You guys see all the confirmations 1.00
08:41:20.520 She's an extreme Muslim 1.00
08:41:21.880 She cannot even be on that 1.00
08:41:23.540 When I used to be Muslim 0.99
08:41:24.920 I'm sorry 1.00
08:41:26.480 I would get beat for that shit 1.00
08:41:28.100 Imagine how lit it would be if she came in the burqa 1.00
08:41:30.920 And Andrew was like what the fuck 1.00
08:41:32.400 And you were like what the fuck 1.00
08:41:33.600 That would have been like what the fuck you want a one way flight 1.00
08:41:36.120 What the fuck 0.99
08:41:37.800 I don't know 1.00
08:41:40.460 Alright 1.00
08:41:41.680 That girl
08:41:44.040 that girl who i kicked out that girl who i kicked out had such good notes
08:41:51.000 and i wanted her to debate i wanted to set up a 1v1 debate with her and andrew i wanted a 1v1 0.93
08:41:59.460 debate her and rachel like at some later date so obnoxious wait what was going on with her she
08:42:06.000 was doing fine it started like gradually i literally had a headache after i went and took
08:42:10.500 for ibuprofen well something you were sitting next to her you know like literally in my ear
08:42:15.580 look i think part of it was part of the part of the the voice is a little grating okay guys she's
08:42:27.600 a little what well hey listen she was rude to him too okay she was rude to us as well i'm not 1.00
08:42:35.340 gonna play pity party let's go w w look at things in such a sweet way but sometimes she was so rude 1.00
08:42:43.100 to the other girls it's so she was she was don't get me started she was so rude to all of you and 1.00
08:42:49.700 you know what she said things really rude to you and to you but the worst thing she called you 40 0.65
08:42:56.600 she was so mean listen it's not about me it's about you guys okay yeah girl let me just tell
08:43:01.980 you this okay she was not being considerate of the fact that it's a panel okay and she should 0.98
08:43:08.800 be like listen i've talked a lot do any of the other women want to fucking talk she i'm just 1.00
08:43:16.500 saying okay she monopolized when she should have been like you know what there's other women she 1.00
08:43:23.780 won't even let me jump in i'd raise my hand look at her there's other women i'm like damn let me 1.00
08:43:28.820 jump in whoa that microphone is facing the wrong way thank you appreciate it appreciate it i don't 0.63
08:43:34.500 why he keeps doing that oh my god you guys are the best she was just you won't have my back okay
08:43:41.240 she's a bit naughty she's a bit naughty if you're watching this i just want to say i know i was
08:43:47.860 upset at you wait i can't say this i was wondering if it was a gay voice or a woman's voice i don't 0.81
08:43:55.040 I don't know, it's both, I guess. 0.53
08:43:56.980 I mean, isn't...
08:43:57.900 Wait, can we talk about that echo that happened earlier?
08:44:00.620 No, no, no, don't worry about it.
08:44:01.780 Don't talk about it.
08:44:03.260 That was scary.
08:44:04.400 Don't worry about it, don't worry about it.
08:44:05.400 Oh, I remember, yeah.
08:44:06.180 Don't worry about it.
08:44:06.720 It's haunted, doesn't it?
08:44:07.380 Don't worry about it.
08:44:09.120 It was from our computers.
08:44:10.460 So, okay.
08:44:11.700 If you're watching this, I know we had our little heated moments, but I don't hold a grudge.
08:44:17.780 What was her name?
08:44:18.400 Mary?
08:44:18.960 Was that her name?
08:44:19.820 Yes.
08:44:20.540 Mary?
08:44:21.680 Mary, I don't hold a grudge, Mary.
08:44:23.340 I doubt you're even watching. 0.81
08:44:25.040 I don't know if I could put you back on a panel because you monopolize a bit,
08:44:32.340 but if you want to do a one-v-one debate with Andrew or Rachel Wilson,
08:44:36.840 I thought the back-and-forth was good.
08:44:40.080 I liked their back-and-forth.
08:44:42.540 I thought she was a good, what's it called?
08:44:47.580 Good content. 0.99
08:44:49.380 Interlocutor.
08:44:50.080 She was a good interlocutor.
08:44:51.500 so you know water under the bridge it's water under the bridge okay it's water under the bridge 0.98
08:45:00.040 i called you a cunt but hey it's water under the bridge hey i don't i call i think she was not 0.99
08:45:06.060 perfect i like the word cunt i think i think she'll forgive me okay she seems like a very 0.99
08:45:11.840 forgiving person i think she's a catholic a little emotional she's a catholic i think she'll forgive 0.73
08:45:17.620 me see i didn't want to tell you this earlier because you were just really emotional and i
08:45:21.420 thought you were gonna kick me out because i'm wearing red too and i'm sitting on the chair
08:45:24.380 but yes i have an animus towards people who wear red right now i feel like he's gonna get you i'm
08:45:31.080 out now uh asal um oh no you had the post that read we live in a world where dogs get put down
08:45:37.740 for biting but seven men who rape a woman for seven hours get to write an essay so i mean we
08:45:42.500 already talked about it but but it's true like a dog bites someone they put them down not all seven
08:45:47.880 men were raping her the rape wasn't occurring for seven hours and the punishment for these men
08:45:54.300 who are alleged to have done this okay you see the point i'm trying to say though was not just
08:46:00.240 getting to write you're missing the big picture you're missing the big you're missing the big
08:46:04.960 you could argue if there was an actual rape case that was proven regardless they're not getting
08:46:08.460 put down but a dog that bit a kid is yeah because the kid was putting it on its mouth pulling its
08:46:12.920 ears and um provoking it like actually though do you think the punishment for for like rape of this
08:46:19.660 they should get a life should be rape in general should be life a death sentence i don't know who
08:46:24.220 rapes once does it again not a death sentence life sentence but you said put down so that's
08:46:28.680 i'm saying a dog is getting put down it's using the hypothetical yes like why is that man allowed
08:46:33.820 She didn't say that the equal punishment was putting a man down.
08:46:39.300 She was just showing the severity of a punishment of an animal who doesn't really know what they're doing.
08:46:43.640 Yeah, the dog gets provoked.
08:46:45.040 I don't even think murderers should get the death penalty.
08:46:48.840 No, because it's an easy way out.
08:46:50.640 I don't like the death penalty.
08:46:52.080 You want them to come out and murder people?
08:46:53.520 No, I think life in prison. 0.53
08:46:55.600 You know why?
08:46:56.200 Life in prison.
08:46:57.480 I mean, I'm not big on the death sentence.
08:46:59.080 I get that.
08:46:59.420 It's not that I necessarily have a huge opposition to, like, assuming a scenario where we can agree, like, objectively, this person murdered somebody, but innocent people have been put to death, and you can't undo putting someone to death.
08:47:13.220 I agree with that.
08:47:13.780 And so on that basis, I'm against it. 1.00
08:47:16.320 And also, some woman just got a botched death penalty thing. 1.00
08:47:21.760 Yeah, I love that. 1.00
08:47:22.420 Which is, she's a very bad, like, she did some really fucked up shit points. 0.99
08:47:27.260 What was the charge? 0.99
08:47:28.000 that oh she did some things to kids or something really bad but like if you're gonna put someone
08:47:34.620 to death do it right botch it like you can't botch it so that's one reason but also i'm just
08:47:40.680 against it um it's the easy way you can keep people like people who do really bad crimes you
08:47:45.380 can keep them in prison forever uh but it's um if sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes
08:47:54.320 and if we put those people to death that's a really huge injustice to kill someone i mean
08:48:01.060 it's a huge injustice to falsely imprison them but to kill someone um you can't like because 0.83
08:48:06.340 you could eventually release somebody and yeah it's still awful that they were imprisoned even
08:48:11.240 for the period of time they were but you can at least give them some form of uh you know justice
08:48:18.160 i guess but i believe the reason i think the death penalty shouldn't be a thing because if
08:48:24.160 people are guilty that's their easy way out i rather than rot forever in solitary confinement
08:48:29.060 i also think like religious standpoint like i don't think she's putting like death penalty
08:48:33.380 like at all that's not shouldn't be put hands of man that's up to god that's up to god i don't
08:48:37.880 think that i don't know if it's completely contrary to christianity the death penalty
08:48:41.760 it's a child molester they already get killed in prison okay they're already getting yeah they're
08:48:46.160 done but i think the practical the practical complications of death penalty the botched
08:48:51.020 um executions executing innocent people and then the other thing is it's actually more expensive
08:48:57.600 to uh go through the process of trying to kill somebody than just being like life sentence
08:49:04.100 really but it's because there's so when they're whenever there's a death sentence
08:49:08.900 it takes a one it takes a really long time to actually uh kill them because once you trigger
08:49:14.640 a death sentence um they have like a lot of appeals and so the legal costs are really insane
08:49:22.080 also the prisons are at capacity if they don't appeal it but like almost all people who get
08:49:27.740 death sentence appeal so it's more it's way more expensive shouldn't they kill because the prisons
08:49:32.960 are getting at capacity too uh but there's so few death sentences so the the prison population isn't
08:49:40.980 Because there's a lot of people that are waiting to be put to death.
08:49:45.720 It's like overpopulation.
08:49:48.180 Like the amount of people who are on death row is super small.
08:49:52.820 Okay.
08:49:54.680 Assault, let's see.
08:49:56.140 Oh, Lord.
08:49:57.320 Almost at the end here.
08:49:58.560 I can't catch a break from Brian.
08:50:00.380 Tilt your mic down, please.
08:50:01.720 I don't know how it does that.
08:50:02.800 I don't know.
08:50:03.260 Maybe I got to tighten something there.
08:50:05.100 um sometimes it genuinely feels like men want to be the girls in relationships now i think
08:50:11.660 we talked this is from last show so okay we're uh yeah we're gonna we already went into all this
08:50:18.260 stuff uh did you add more notes or no no i don't think so what do you want to ask me uh i don't
08:50:28.180 know that's it um okay aubrey uh your notes then we're gonna do aunt jemima and then we're outie
08:50:35.200 did you call me aunt because i'm the oldest one here no uh oh wait i'm not you're older
08:50:43.540 that's true i didn't i'm unk i guess uh your aunt i have a dating story about a crazy ex who came
08:50:50.140 out as gay yeah got a girl pregnant still tried to date you afterward yes and in the midst of all
08:50:57.560 of that it got almost physical into
08:50:59.580 the point where cops were involved or standing orders
08:51:01.500 into where you
08:51:03.360 low-key ran part of his foot over
08:51:05.480 with his own car. Okay to be fair
08:51:07.520 I did have chat GPT write that
08:51:09.460 story and I was sending that at like
08:51:11.420 3 in the morning so I did
08:51:12.500 But is it true? I mean
08:51:15.340 in the order of events no but
08:51:17.280 is it true it happened? Yes. Like all those things so he
08:51:19.380 came out as gay? Yes. 0.93
08:51:21.220 Wait you had chat GPT? Okay.
08:51:23.180 I can't sometimes form like
08:51:25.180 verbalize like how I want to say like in text form.
08:51:27.560 um so he got a girl pregnant yes did she keep it yes they have a child and they are now married
08:51:33.160 and he's gay yes he's girls they're married you know what though 0.90
08:51:39.580 no when i say like it's what's up with girls like there's this new trend of women saying 1.00
08:51:45.220 their exes are gay no like i mean like he's gay like he was taking it in the ass his best friend 1.00
08:51:50.620 was him like they were literally having sex he was found what's the gay dating thing the grinder 1.00
08:51:57.260 It was Grindr. He was on there with a fake name. 0.90
08:52:00.160 That's how you found out?
08:52:01.120 It got sent to me. Mind you, we hadn't been in contact at all. It got sent to me.
08:52:04.520 He used a fake name, used every single photo he still had, and was in Texas getting with women.
08:52:09.120 Okay.
08:52:11.000 So you found out he was gay after the relationship?
08:52:13.200 He came out to me after I broke up with him.
08:52:15.340 Like, he came out to me.
08:52:19.640 Cool. I love that for you.
08:52:21.540 I know. It's very interesting.
08:52:24.500 The foot thing was generally an accident.
08:52:26.760 I use it mostly just to, like, it's, like, obviously it's going to get, like, engagement.
08:52:30.620 You said, okay, should you go through your partner's phone?
08:52:36.080 That was one of your prompts, did you?
08:52:38.340 His phone or any guy's phone?
08:52:40.340 Have you gone through a guy's phone?
08:52:41.360 Yeah, I have.
08:52:42.340 Do you go through your boyfriend's phone?
08:52:43.860 Not my current boyfriend's phone, no.
08:52:45.100 Ever?
08:52:45.820 There was, like, one time, but not going through.
08:52:48.260 Like, if my phone's boring, I'll go play a game on his phone.
08:52:50.640 Or, like, I'm, like, doing something like that or, like, whatever it is.
08:52:53.920 Like, I'm not, like, actively going through trying to find dirt.
08:52:55.760 but like if i'm born was like oh let's not here uh you also say can you be friends with an ex
08:53:01.140 while in a relationship no who should pay on the first date men okay uh should you tell your
08:53:07.340 partner your full body count yes wait why would you prompt that if you don't have a body count
08:53:12.800 well no i think in general because my boyfriend has a body count
08:53:15.480 okay
08:53:18.320 Jamila
08:53:21.540 Jamila
08:53:22.520 you were good yesterday 1.00
08:53:23.740 is it rape if a woman lies about her body count 0.67
08:53:27.200 we talked about this yesterday
08:53:28.960 if the man says
08:53:30.340 I will not sleep with you 0.81
08:53:32.340 if a man says I will not sleep with you
08:53:34.120 if you have this number body count
08:53:35.840 and you purposely withhold that information
08:53:38.660 Tiffany can you tell them to be quiet
08:53:40.380 so my homegirl can speak
08:53:42.440 uninterrupted
08:53:44.680 your home girl wow it was upgraded i don't think it's rape i think it's just a preference no no
08:53:48.580 i was talking about moral rape we had like a whole debate yesterday yeah yeah um but no anyways if 0.99
08:53:53.440 she purposely re uh withholds that information knowing that he would not sleep with her if she
08:53:57.860 told it to him then yes she committed moral rape one question though and i i don't know if i got a 0.84
08:54:02.440 complete answer here yesterday the big one that that you mentioned that that sort of spawned this
08:54:08.580 is the tiktok that i saw where so the question is is it only moral rape if the person has disclosed
08:54:17.600 has disclosed that um sorry i'm getting a little tired here uh has disclosed this preference or
08:54:26.600 want for we talked about a few different things we talked about how there are a few things that
08:54:31.540 generally most people we cannot assume all people right but most people would agree that like if
08:54:37.100 you're married, it's probably relevant information. If you have kids, that's probably relevant
08:54:40.640 information. If you have a current STD or STI, that's probably currently relevant information.
08:54:46.740 Guys, guys, guys, guys, quiet, please. So are you saying there's some things where the person
08:54:55.840 should know, and if they don't disclose, then it's moral rape, and then there's other things where
08:55:01.880 the person who it's a requisite for their consent they have a duty to disclose we talked about it
08:55:08.800 if it was like a very niche thing that a majority of people would not technically like would not
08:55:13.340 necessarily okay so just about like say intentions i'm sorry say well i got you you changed the
08:55:18.320 question so what do you mean no so okay related to intentions you say a guy who lies about his
08:55:22.960 intentions to sleep with you that's moral that's rape right um you say that i didn't specifically
08:55:31.000 say intentions but sure well i would argue that's wrong specifically talk about intentions we did
08:55:36.680 it we talked about with holding sir no no no if you pull it up i said if you know that you
08:55:41.560 if you told that woman the truth that she would say no but you lie to her anyways to get her to
08:55:45.560 say yes so but okay so but we didn't specifically talk about i mean it's deceiving it's wrong if
08:55:50.840 you as a man just can't pull a girl in general you have to lie by saying i'm gonna promise you
08:55:55.000 relationship in this but i agree it's wrong yeah i agree it's i agree it's manipulative it's
08:56:00.860 deceptive it's morally wrong yes but she says it's rape which is where i disagree i don't think it's
08:56:08.780 i don't moral maybe at the start you took her values and lied to her and gaslit her because
08:56:16.500 imagine if it wasn't actually a good girl she genuinely liked this guy thought that he cared
08:56:19.760 and some girls it's either they're waiting till marriage or they just haven't like found the guy
08:56:23.180 that they want to find someone and they think that's the case he lies foxer leaves and goes
08:56:27.600 to the next one that's how about this how about like let's do scenario where let's say i have
08:56:31.640 four girls that i'm currently sleeping with um i have four girls i'm currently sleeping with
08:56:37.280 um and i i meet a girl and without any discussions about anything um she doesn't tell me anything
08:56:47.820 really maybe she just says that she's monogamous or whatever um and then uh i don't disclose that
08:56:55.560 i'm polyamorous and then i go ahead and sleep with her or this i shouldn't even say me let's
08:57:01.580 say this hypothetical man sleeps with her is that moral rape if it's yes you should have
08:57:06.180 did both parties and that's rare so like that's like an odd but even with that he said that the
08:57:14.040 woman stated that she was monogamous so even regardless the boundary right so you know hold
08:57:17.740 on so i i fail to see though but just because she states she's monogamous doesn't necessarily
08:57:23.340 indicate it's not a clear-cut indicator that um that even if she's monogamous it's not a clear-cut
08:57:31.740 indicator that that would be uh requisite for sex okay so like we talked about earlier with
08:57:41.240 not earlier sorry like we talked about yesterday with andrew he wouldn't agree with like it being
08:57:45.520 a knowledge claim but he agreed that certain things may increase the probability that that
08:57:50.080 matters to that person right so if that woman tells you that she's monogamous that increases
08:57:54.200 at least the probability that she would not sleep with you if you were polyamorous you agree
08:57:57.600 sure okay so then if it increases the probability and you are aware that it does then it is on you
08:58:03.880 to then disclose that information right and i agree that it's it's very much wrong deceptive
08:58:09.040 and manipulative but it does not rise to rape or any like any moral rape rape it doesn't rise to 0.98
08:58:15.060 the level of rape that's your opinion but i agree with you that it's really fucked up and wrong and 0.93
08:58:19.500 i feel like people should be honest about their intentions or honest about other things but like 0.78
08:58:23.860 then we can just apply it to all kinds of scenarios that maybe um you might say that this is more
08:58:29.280 common among men who lie about their intentions not to say of course women certainly also can lie
08:58:35.160 about certain things so as to induce a man into not necessarily sex although sometimes it's the
08:58:41.980 case but induce a man into a relationship so i believe a lot of women withhold their true body
08:58:48.200 count like a lot of women will not reveal their body count to a guy well it's not that they won't 0.93
08:58:56.000 reveal it they'll just fucking lie oh it's five but men also lie very much about it like a lot
08:59:02.180 I had gone out on a date like two years ago and I, that was the first question I asked. 0.98
08:59:06.220 So I'm very straightforward when women, like men care more about body count. 0.91
08:59:09.880 So I think it's fair to assume that like, if you lie about that, how about this? 0.60
08:59:16.140 This is, I answered this.
08:59:17.780 That's how we started with the answer to this question.
08:59:19.980 How about this? 0.93
08:59:20.860 Do you think prostitutes have a duty to disclose to new partners, either current or former
08:59:26.740 prostitutes duty to disclose that they're a prostitute? 0.50
08:59:31.440 Absolutely. 0.97
08:59:32.780 I would say active, absolutely, because you could be putting that person's health at risk.
08:59:37.500 Not even prior prostitute?
08:59:39.820 Prior, I mean. 0.99
08:59:40.940 You think women should be able to withhold? 1.00
08:59:43.180 Hold on. 1.00
08:59:43.940 Have they been tested?
08:59:45.080 It doesn't matter if they're clean. 0.76
08:59:47.200 Even if prior prostitute, that's a major red flag. 0.99
08:59:52.320 Huge red flag. 1.00
08:59:55.000 I would feel raped. 0.98
08:59:57.240 But you just said it's not rape. 0.98
08:59:58.760 You just said it's not rape. 0.60
08:59:59.640 Now it's the only thing.
09:00:00.860 It's a man.
09:00:01.540 But I'm exploring it from your worldview.
09:00:04.760 So I, again, I think it's deceptive and wrong.
09:00:06.980 I'll concede on it.
09:00:07.160 I'll concede on it.
09:00:07.900 Fine.
09:00:08.320 She should disclose it.
09:00:09.140 I'm not.
09:00:09.860 So I would be. 1.00
09:00:10.780 But OK, so can I go to the cops and be like, yo, this fucking slut lied to me. 1.00
09:00:17.000 Why do you keep on bringing legality into it when I started off saying that it's not the legal definition of rape? 1.00
09:00:21.160 OK, but hold on.
09:00:21.920 Would you charge?
09:00:23.200 Fine.
09:00:23.940 Well, you said you would be open to criminal penalties for moral rape.
09:00:27.680 I said if it was very objective and measurable.
09:00:29.760 And we have no technology to do that right now
09:00:31.480 Are you in favor of like a fine or something 0.99
09:00:33.220 But when moral rape more be like emotional
09:00:35.240 I need it to be objective and measurable
09:00:36.940 Like I can't cause it's like it's such a difficult thing
09:00:39.400 Because like we talked about self evaluation
09:00:41.220 No I'm serious 0.99
09:00:42.100 If you were a dictator you would pass some fucking 0.99
09:00:44.240 You would pass draconian laws 0.99
09:00:47.880 And be like listen men 1.00
09:00:49.860 If you lie about your height
09:00:52.180 If you're 5'11
09:00:54.240 But on the dating app
09:00:55.720 You put six feet 1.00
09:00:57.120 You fucking raped her 1.00
09:00:59.260 And you're going to prison forever 1.00
09:01:00.680 No I wouldn't
09:01:01.460 As a woman who likes tall men 0.99
09:01:04.380 You like tall men right 0.95
09:01:05.620 You would be like 0.97
09:01:08.480 These 5'11 rapists 1.00
09:01:10.400 They're just fucking 1.00
09:01:11.960 LARPing on fucking 1.00
09:01:14.520 Hinging tinder 1.00
09:01:15.340 They're lying
09:01:17.920 These one inch 0.86
09:01:19.440 One inch straight to jail
09:01:21.300 One inch straight to jail 1.00
09:01:23.120 Guys who lie about their dick size 1.00
09:01:25.860 Straight to jail 1.00
09:01:26.860 And you know what's funny?
09:01:28.260 On Hinge, when they put six feet, and I meet up with them, and I'm way taller, and they try to tell me I'm six feet. 1.00
09:01:34.560 As someone who's been labia-fished, I'm actually in favor of punishments for women who labia-fish. 0.98
09:01:41.280 So, like, for example, in order for me to – I mean, obviously, I guess I would find out if she – before having sex, I guess I would know. 1.00
09:01:51.500 I would discover her lie prior to sex. 0.90
09:01:55.660 Indeed. 0.97
09:01:56.100 But I do think labia fishing should have, like, some penalty, you know?
09:01:59.540 Yeah, no airbags.
09:02:00.420 You should write a thesis on it. 1.00
09:02:01.680 No, because women have told me they have big labia. 1.00
09:02:05.420 And, like, you know how guys lie about their dick size and they're like, oh. 1.00
09:02:08.320 That's not the same thing. 0.99
09:02:09.700 Oh, it's worse. 0.74
09:02:10.800 The labia is on top. 0.88
09:02:12.220 Oh, my God.
09:02:12.920 The inside is what matters, right?
09:02:15.160 The outside matters to me.
09:02:16.720 No, no, okay, but to you.
09:02:17.920 But the feeling of the wave of the motion, I don't believe in that. 1.00
09:02:21.380 I mean, pussy is still good. 1.00
09:02:22.520 The size matters, okay? 1.00
09:02:23.740 It's still nice.
09:02:23.880 Size matters.
09:02:24.540 Size matters
09:02:26.700 Size always matters 0.75
09:02:29.960 Yeah, it's not the same thing
09:02:30.840 Not if you're in love
09:02:31.760 Is that what she told you?
09:02:34.440 Is that what she told you?
09:02:37.000 Oh my god, look, they're bonding, but they hate each other
09:02:40.220 We don't hate each other
09:02:41.120 No, we hated you, that's why we bonded
09:02:42.280 Bro, you were going hard
09:02:47.500 We're still Middle Eastern
09:02:48.960 Hello?
09:02:51.980 He likes it when we fight
09:02:53.740 Honestly, he knew exactly what he was doing with that.
09:02:58.860 The meows were funny.
09:03:00.300 Yeah, they were funny.
09:03:03.160 But it's okay if you have a small pee-pee.
09:03:06.360 It's average. 0.53
09:03:07.260 It's average.
09:03:08.620 Oh.
09:03:09.520 What's average?
09:03:10.580 Wait, what's average?
09:03:11.600 I think like five and six is average.
09:03:13.580 Okay, six isn't bad.
09:03:15.500 Are you six?
09:03:17.520 Yeah.
09:03:18.260 Or is it?
09:03:19.180 Yeah, I can die.
09:03:20.080 I'm so very surprised that you said that on here.
09:03:22.440 Yeah, it's like around there. 0.99
09:03:23.740 know it's around there so benjamin's a six the fuck is benjamin i just named it oh my god bro 0.96
09:03:30.380 how how's your boyfriend gonna feel about you naming my car it's a dating show we did not 0.86
09:03:37.220 apparently you guys are dating at all despite my odd fascination with giant i'm trying that 0.99
09:03:45.300 you have a small dick and i called him benjamin never met i've never named any woman's labia 0.98
09:03:52.620 on the panel are you sure you did it in your head what is no my friends have a name i don't even 1.00
09:03:56.800 have oh yeah what is it i can't tell you guys i don't come on angels there's a name i think the
09:04:02.200 people who give names to their genitals is weird no it's funny like couples you're just not
09:04:07.380 comfortable with that i do think it's weird i think it's like if a girl was like time to see
09:04:11.600 mr sparkles okay we don't name it mr sparkles wait when it's soft we say maybe ben jr but for
09:04:18.900 you it's just all right rapid fire segment rapid fire segment wait wait can you do like 20 minutes
09:04:26.400 yeah come on we're at the end we're at the tail end uh brie uh brie don't leave me
09:04:33.460 yeah see whoa i'll be i'll be please stay all right rapid fire segment here oh wait we got
09:04:40.740 jamila jamila okay like 20 minutes all right well let me do rapid fire and then time permitting 0.98
09:04:46.180 we'll do the tiktoks um yes we also have the ai shit do we have ai t-dog 0.98
09:04:52.080 poor tiffany just poor tiffany the poor poor gal i hope i don't get sick tiffany if i'm getting sick 0.99
09:05:01.860 you're screwed if you get me sick i swear to god i just got over 104 fever you're gonna get us sick 0.97
09:05:10.780 No, that was two weeks ago, okay? 1.00
09:05:13.300 Well, I just, I was sick.
09:05:14.580 No, 10-inch pole.
09:05:16.100 10-inch pole.
09:05:16.880 Wasn't I sick when you were home?
09:05:19.020 I got sick when I got back from Ohio, okay?
09:05:21.520 I wasn't even here.
09:05:22.500 I got the Wook flu.
09:05:24.000 No, no, no.
09:05:26.660 It is sad when they leave you a fish.
09:05:28.800 It's very sad when they... 0.99
09:05:31.200 I did not consent to having my penis named. 0.99
09:05:33.560 Okay, Junior. 0.99
09:05:34.640 Tell Junior to calm down.
09:05:35.900 I did not consent to that.
09:05:37.840 Okay, well, name it Junior.
09:05:38.860 How does that feel?
09:05:40.780 He'll think about it.
09:05:41.880 What do you guys think about...
09:05:43.500 I was actually thinking about this.
09:05:45.380 I think...
09:05:46.900 And I don't know if this is misogynist or misandrist.
09:05:50.260 Men should wear body cameras.
09:05:53.440 For what purpose? 0.98
09:05:54.600 Sex. 0.99
09:05:56.360 That's a disgusting thing to say. 0.99
09:05:57.960 Why is that disgusting?
09:05:58.880 They could delete it after. 1.00
09:06:00.420 Police accountability, but for penises. 0.99
09:06:03.220 No, but they use it for something else. 0.99
09:06:05.060 You already know. 1.00
09:06:05.300 You women... 1.00
09:06:05.960 It's literally a crime to film somebody without that consent. 1.00
09:06:08.320 Well women are going to have to get on board 1.00
09:06:11.120 With making pornos 1.00
09:06:12.320 You better let them know
09:06:13.400 I think to protect women
09:06:15.180 This is what I think we should do
09:06:20.280 I think the government 1.00
09:06:21.820 Needs to mandate men 1.00
09:06:23.520 To wear body cameras 0.73
09:06:25.760 So that if there's ever a dispute
09:06:28.500 If there's ever a dispute 0.99
09:06:30.080 Anything for men right
09:06:31.760 No it's to protect women 0.99
09:06:34.100 It's to protect women 0.93
09:06:35.480 You're lying 0.82
09:06:36.440 Don't even gaslight us right now
09:06:39.600 I can see right through your 1.00
09:06:40.960 Men's advocate 1.00
09:06:42.300 How can you women not be in favor of this 0.77
09:06:44.160 If men have to 0.77
09:06:46.020 What if they delete it 0.82
09:06:47.100 We need to have the footage too
09:06:49.900 No it gets uploaded to the cloud
09:06:51.580 But they can't see it
09:06:53.520 They can't keep it
09:06:55.120 It goes into a cloud for the police
09:06:57.340 The NSA
09:06:58.540 The NSA is definitely not looking at these videos
09:07:03.300 For sure
09:07:04.240 You're the NSA
09:07:06.380 but like if you guys can also mutually consent to like put it in the spank bank so like if you
09:07:13.040 want to video that my boyfriend would not have to agree you both have to videos with the the body 1.00
09:07:20.400 look how about this it doesn't have to be gendered women and men both have to because sometimes body
09:07:26.140 cams are faulty both of them wear a body camera and then anytime you have sex you have it's just
09:07:32.700 invasive to like privacy but i feel like you know look there's i think you know when you get in a
09:07:39.200 relationship flock cameras more like cock cameras am i right whoa that was junior cameras oh flock
09:07:47.320 cameras oh that's actually but when you get in a relationship when you get in a relationship
09:07:52.820 your partner doesn't want to spank folder okay mine did well that's the difference with you
09:07:58.580 with you guys i'm saying with random people yeah look i'm just saying you just want to get spanked 0.97
09:08:06.500 if it's wait question if the body cameras stopped rape would you be in favor of them 0.94
09:08:14.020 yeah but they're not allowed to see the video they can't hold it fine you can't the only time
09:08:19.820 it could ever be reviewed is when somebody's making a claim that something bad happens
09:08:23.920 and the police can review the body camera yeah yeah okay how about they just insert chips in 0.98
09:08:30.960 everyone's eyes so yeah that's true that's good that sounds very dystopian oh shit okay let's 0.96
09:08:37.780 stop putting ideas out there they listen yo chat uh type in the chat if you'd be in favor of body 0.99
09:08:43.900 cams for sex flock cameras so does that mean every time that a person's having sex well why 0.90
09:08:50.880 Why couldn't they just turn it off if they were going to rape somebody and say, oh, it malfunctioned? 0.66
09:08:55.460 Why couldn't they just sniff out the footage?
09:08:57.180 Because here's the thing. 0.98
09:08:59.380 In order to activate the cock camera, you have to, anytime a man gets an erection, there's like a brain implant. 0.99
09:09:14.060 Or no, there's a cock implant. 0.99
09:09:15.440 Don't men get random boners? 1.00
09:09:18.440 Let us know.
09:09:20.300 it's so silly i'm just look i'm just saying or maybe you know what no body cameras but we have 0.94
09:09:27.240 hotels that if you want to have sex you can't do it in your home you have to go to a designated area 0.98
09:09:32.720 that has observers that has observers i think he wants to get all of his sexual fetishes 0.99
09:09:38.400 like a weird way no no get a cock camera we need to protect women we need to protect men 0.97
09:09:44.320 this is a happy compromise either body cameras for sex or sex venues where there's either an 0.99
09:09:51.680 observer or okay that's the cuck chair are you talking about the cuck chair a large problem is 0.99
09:09:58.900 that a lot of women there's an observer that's the cuck chair a lot of women would stop having 0.98
09:10:03.980 sex with men i don't know if the repercussions are looking out for women yeah it would stop 0.98
09:10:08.880 rape it would stop rape sure well rape should just stop to begin with why do you have to have 0.99
09:10:15.540 our vagina yes war should cloud drive for war should end too there should be no war but can't 1.00
09:10:23.980 okay in this hypothetical footage can be manipulated though yeah you know what i mean 0.98
09:10:28.160 could be like oh well there's listen i've thought this through okay there's not going to be
09:10:33.340 manipulation because there's there's ways to make sure it's by you there's always manipulation
09:10:38.860 i'm not going to be in charge of the cock cameras i'm just proposing the idea i already see the 0.96
09:10:44.660 billboards if whoever invents the cock cameras they want to send me a little money i'm not going
09:10:51.400 to turn down the money but i'm not going to be in charge of it i can see the bill would you be 0.99
09:10:55.220 the tester sure okay good luck having yeah good sex with you no that like but he's not a porn star 0.97
09:11:01.640 yeah that's true but she would be understanding yeah she's like even us don't want to always 0.99
09:11:06.400 She would be like, listen, if I do anything to you, this cock camera goes straight to detectives.
09:11:15.320 Go straight to the police, so you're safe.
09:11:17.960 We should already go to the detectives. 1.00
09:11:20.220 Oh, fuck. 1.00
09:11:22.540 I'm just saying. 1.00
09:11:24.440 Brian, Brian, Brian.
09:11:26.620 Okay.
09:11:31.000 Look.
09:11:32.560 It's okay.
09:11:33.020 I see the idea.
09:11:33.960 The room is a crazy idea.
09:11:35.940 how about this let's go over to this hotel really quick one last thing on the consent thing
09:11:41.940 one last thing on the consent thing um there's this idea of like the the affirmative verbal
09:11:50.900 consent right and it's like how does that look like in practice though like let's say you've
09:11:58.940 been with your girlfriend for fuck two years you know what i mean you like excuse me is it okay if 0.94
09:12:08.200 i kiss you is it okay if i take your top off is it okay you know earlier you said read the room 0.99
09:12:13.040 you read the room you read the room that's where you don't have to question it like that yeah it's
09:12:17.520 not vague it's someone who you're in a relationship in a relationship it's a different bond yeah if
09:12:22.380 you're in a relationship and you know this is someone who you're having sex with regularly 0.92
09:12:25.260 If you see her sad, obviously you don't go have sex with her. 0.99
09:12:28.500 First time having sex, do you have to be like, is it okay if I kiss you on the mouth? 0.99
09:12:34.320 Is it okay if I kiss you? 0.98
09:12:35.060 No, you go like this.
09:12:35.800 Ready?
09:12:36.180 You start making out and you see how she's feeling.
09:12:39.320 And if she feels tense, then you go, are you okay?
09:12:43.440 Can I ask you guys a question though?
09:12:45.200 Have you ever, like first time seeing a guy, and assume you really like the guy, right?
09:12:49.880 And then you kiss and that's consensual.
09:12:51.820 and then he goes for a boob grab.
09:12:55.440 I've moved hands away.
09:12:56.700 If I move the hands away, that means I'm not ready for anything else.
09:12:59.420 But what if he reaches the boob and he makes contact with the boob 0.58
09:13:03.080 and you didn't want the boob touch,
09:13:05.540 but you moved the hands away and he was like, oh, sorry, and he stops.
09:13:09.140 No, no, no.
09:13:09.640 That's the boundary.
09:13:11.100 No, that's the boundary.
09:13:12.160 And then you start making out and he asks you, what's your boundary?
09:13:14.920 Arguably, though, but arguably, though, he made contact with the boob. 0.88
09:13:18.500 There's an argument to be made. 1.00
09:13:20.080 No, she's going to make boundaries.
09:13:21.540 She's like, I'm sorry, I'm not ready for that yet.
09:13:24.640 She's going to go.
09:13:26.260 I'm not ready for that yet.
09:13:28.020 Can we just make out and hang out?
09:13:30.280 Yeah.
09:13:31.240 I want to get to know you more.
09:13:32.360 She'll leave the boundary there. 1.00
09:13:33.540 She's not going to be like, ew, you touched my boob. 0.98
09:13:35.460 Wait. 1.00
09:13:35.980 She's not going to do that.
09:13:36.780 Why do you think that moment of us like that?
09:13:38.380 I mean, but technically you could argue that, I mean, how about like a kiss? 1.00
09:13:46.060 And the girl didn't want to kiss. 1.00
09:13:48.100 You leaned in for the kiss. 0.97
09:13:49.480 And somehow the lips did connect
09:13:52.020 She's going to be like, oh, I'm sorry
09:13:54.040 I don't feel that way
09:13:54.880 But she was like, oh, no
09:13:56.220 He doesn't keep pushing
09:13:58.920 That's normal
09:14:00.260 That's communication
09:14:01.160 Some people might say
09:14:04.120 That even going for the kiss 1.00
09:14:05.480 You have four women here agreeing 0.99
09:14:07.220 But some people are agreeing
09:14:09.440 Who traumatized you?
09:14:11.680 Where is these stories coming from?
09:14:12.960 Nobody traumatized you
09:14:13.680 Some people
09:14:16.060 Some people would say
09:14:17.520 even going for the kiss
09:14:19.380 and she didn't want to kiss you
09:14:21.480 even if you don't make contact 0.91
09:14:23.220 you go for the kiss, she pulls back
09:14:25.560 some people would say that that's 0.99
09:14:27.440 an assault. Those are the minority
09:14:29.680 and that's wrong 1.00
09:14:31.440 but can I ask you a question though
09:14:33.460 would it be an assault
09:14:35.140 if you just
09:14:36.400 you should never do this, a guy walked up to a 0.99
09:14:39.380 random woman like in the middle of a fucking 0.99
09:14:41.100 Trader Joe's and 1.00
09:14:42.380 he's not reading the room
09:14:45.320 No, but he doesn't make contact.
09:14:47.980 He doesn't make contact, but he goes.
09:14:49.780 He's about to assault.
09:14:50.940 It's more so harassment.
09:14:51.860 Those things more so fall under her. 1.00
09:14:53.260 I think that's an assault.
09:14:55.740 I think that's an assault.
09:14:57.360 No, no, because she doesn't know him.
09:15:00.240 Why would you go? 1.00
09:15:01.420 That's harassment. 1.00
09:15:02.360 Girls get groped by men in school throughout so much of school.
09:15:06.620 And it's not called assault.
09:15:08.300 It's not called assault.
09:15:08.980 It's called harassment.
09:15:09.680 It's called harassment.
09:15:09.740 Can we talk about that?
09:15:11.960 I'm sorry.
09:15:12.120 How is that normal?
09:15:12.740 but I do think it's an assault because
09:15:14.900 if some like total 0.98
09:15:16.180 well how would you feel if a random girl
09:15:19.080 come and kissed you in Trader Joe's
09:15:21.300 if she tried to 1.00
09:15:22.200 yeah depends on how hot she is 1.00
09:15:24.400 I think that that's an assault 1.00
09:15:26.380 what happens if she's like the girl
09:15:27.900 but I think the guy who does that who just like walks up to a random
09:15:31.160 woman even if she leans back
09:15:33.180 and he just tries to go 0.92
09:15:35.240 for a kiss I think that's pretty
09:15:37.080 sketchy like that's super sketchy
09:15:39.020 it is because I don't know that person 1.00
09:15:40.800 I'm on the team, women.
09:15:42.520 Ryan, it's 5 a.m. in New York.
09:15:44.300 Have some mercy on me.
09:15:45.340 I'm almost done.
09:15:45.960 I promise.
09:15:46.980 Okay, let's do the rapid fire.
09:15:49.460 All right, so rapid fire segment.
09:15:51.700 We're not going to do all of them.
09:15:53.480 We're going to do a few.
09:15:56.980 Tiffany, it's been a while, but I'm sure you remember how it goes.
09:16:00.280 What species are we?
09:16:02.180 And I'll point to what species are we?
09:16:05.640 Human.
09:16:06.760 Mammals.
09:16:07.780 Homo sapiens?
09:16:08.640 Homo sapiens.
09:16:10.800 Name three countries besides the USA.
09:16:17.000 Russia, China, Armenia.
09:16:20.600 Iran.
09:16:22.220 Three. 0.89
09:16:22.900 Oh, sorry.
09:16:23.860 Can't repeat. 0.92
09:16:25.800 Iran, Afghanistan. 1.00
09:16:28.800 You going to steal my country after talking all that shit? 1.00
09:16:30.960 That's crazy. 1.00
09:16:32.120 All right.
09:16:32.720 And Turkey.
09:16:33.700 Next. 0.68
09:16:35.420 I'm sorry.
09:16:36.660 I'm a little bit thrown off.
09:16:37.840 Three countries.
09:16:39.340 is nigeria ghana and um what's above us canada there you go okay pakistan palestine brazil
09:16:48.440 all right uh what two countries border the usa huh that's for her
09:16:56.540 what two countries border the usa oh border oh let her answer guys i couldn't tell you
09:17:05.600 okay um here what's i'll try to be we'll go one by one okay what's on top of us what's above us 0.93
09:17:14.780 what country you just said it hey no fucking helping okay she just said it 0.74
09:17:20.000 stop stop no hints let her answer what guys i'm trying to get you out of here let me get through 0.98
09:17:25.560 it okay okay let me get through it okay okay okay i said it or she said no no don't worry about that
09:17:30.080 Don't worry about it.
09:17:30.580 Don't worry about that.
09:17:30.880 Ignore everything I said.
09:17:31.860 Okay, look.
09:17:32.620 What is north?
09:17:33.040 What country is above us?
09:17:35.520 And you could drive to it.
09:17:36.700 Okay.
09:17:37.120 What country is below us?
09:17:40.100 You drive to it.
09:17:41.460 Shh.
09:17:42.300 Stop.
09:17:43.700 What country is below us?
09:17:46.140 Aubrey?
09:17:46.980 That's very popular.
09:17:50.520 I could not say.
09:17:51.680 Just guess.
09:17:52.240 Guess a country.
09:17:53.420 Wait.
09:17:53.920 I mean, there's like France.
09:17:56.000 And there's us.
09:17:56.980 There's Germany.
09:17:57.880 Wait. 0.93
09:17:58.180 From San Diego.
09:17:59.380 Shh.
09:18:00.080 zip it 1.00
09:18:01.280 I'm going to pull out your weave bro 1.00
09:18:04.640 I'll pull out your topper 1.00
09:18:06.420 your taper okay
09:18:08.380 this is all real
09:18:09.520 I'm holding you to that at the end
09:18:11.420 I literally cannot even think of a map right now
09:18:14.860 I'm like trying to
09:18:16.720 put one in my head
09:18:17.980 wait you're familiar
09:18:20.660 with what a map looks like
09:18:22.240 using your finger
09:18:24.420 using your finger
09:18:25.900 which way is north
09:18:28.780 oh which way is uh south wait wait wait wait what like inverted wait
09:18:37.760 wait oh my gosh yeah south that way yeah i pointed that way first well it's one of these ways right
09:18:47.020 yeah wait isn't that the thing if there's like an acronym you learn for it like the star yeah
09:18:55.140 that's what i'm thinking about the star that's what i'm thinking never eat
09:19:00.020 sour yeah south is down remember socal norcal and that's how i think of it oh
09:19:06.000 you okay brian yeah very serious look on your face east is this way right i forgot oh east is
09:19:16.580 this way i mean west is that way i don't know where oh yeah west is this way north west oh boy
09:19:23.060 Okay, how many states in the USA?
09:19:26.320 50 or 51?
09:19:28.440 51?
09:19:30.040 Oh, Lord.
09:19:30.680 I actually got a really good grade on this.
09:19:32.140 I don't remember.
09:19:32.720 How many states in the USA?
09:19:33.820 Come on.
09:19:34.240 I'm not from the USA.
09:19:36.040 You live in the USA, homegirl?
09:19:38.500 Shea.
09:19:39.320 We have 51.
09:19:41.280 50.
09:19:42.200 50.
09:19:43.020 What is the capital of the USA?
09:19:48.740 Wait, oh, my God.
09:19:50.060 Aubrey.
09:19:50.980 Capital of the USA.
09:19:52.200 I've taken history since my freshman year.
09:19:54.980 I've been graduated four years ago.
09:19:56.520 Where does the president live?
09:20:02.000 Oh, D.C.
09:20:05.860 Let's see.
09:20:06.880 Name two countries in Europe.
09:20:10.160 Italy, France.
09:20:12.700 Paris.
09:20:16.380 Oh, my God.
09:20:19.260 is is there any one more
09:20:22.300 italy france paris those are the three relevant ones go ahead
09:20:29.820 greece and italy vatican city and spain all right how many planets are in our solar system
09:20:38.400 was its own place sorry how many planets is that what she said i think seven oh i cannot even tell
09:20:43.820 you you know what that's boring i study human behavior not the geography y'all what planet do
09:20:49.440 we live on earth you sure um what planet do we live on earth you sure i'm pretty sure the earth
09:20:59.080 yeah earth oh is the earth flat or round the government building is the sky blue it's okay
09:21:09.020 the government building the pentagon is what shape
09:21:13.120 wait that's it's the it's the rectangle
09:21:19.380 yeah yeah it's all i think right it has eight corners right wait oh my god no or i think it's
09:21:26.100 something different right now i'm so dumb what do you think pentagon is the one with the eight
09:21:31.520 corners the octagon oh yeah yeah i think it's either a rectangle or it's pointy i don't know
09:21:38.160 A rectangular pointy?
09:21:39.480 It's a pentagon.
09:21:42.560 A pentagon is a shape.
09:21:44.240 But that's why they call it, because it's shaped like a pentagon.
09:21:46.760 But the name of the building.
09:21:48.460 Is the pentagon six corners?
09:21:49.660 Oh, it's six corners, not the eight corners.
09:21:52.460 But it's literally in the name.
09:21:53.700 That's what I thought.
09:21:54.540 I missed the segment.
09:21:55.540 I thought it was eight corners.
09:21:56.920 I don't know why.
09:21:58.580 When I was sick, the segment went away.
09:22:00.560 I don't know.
09:22:01.280 Now it's back, though.
09:22:02.720 Six corners, sorry.
09:22:05.220 I was never good at math.
09:22:06.540 it's five it's five right see i was never good at math i literally just said it yeah you said
09:22:12.860 it was eight you thought that was an octagon you thought some ufc up in here i know i've
09:22:19.240 turned into an octagon is the capital of new york state starting with you
09:22:25.540 i couldn't even tell you that's a people that we learned this in school
09:22:31.520 I could not tell you
09:22:33.520 No don't know that's fine
09:22:34.820 You can say you don't know or you can guess
09:22:36.760 What
09:22:39.300 New York City
09:22:40.320 New York City
09:22:43.360 Say it louder
09:22:44.220 It's Albany
09:22:46.740 Albany
09:22:48.080 What river runs through Egypt
09:22:52.120 Oh the Denial 0.61
09:22:54.220 Denial
09:22:55.520 Denial
09:22:57.600 Denial
09:22:58.620 Let me tell you what
09:23:00.520 oh boy
09:23:03.200 alright sorry
09:23:04.060 what country
09:23:09.840 for you what country is directly
09:23:11.960 north of Mexico
09:23:13.820 I didn't even get the north
09:23:17.180 south
09:23:17.880 guess
09:23:19.580 no I couldn't even tell you
09:23:29.280 Just guess.
09:23:30.200 Wild guess.
09:23:31.000 No.
09:23:31.560 Throughout the country.
09:23:32.900 I couldn't even tell you.
09:23:34.500 I'll give you a hint.
09:23:35.620 It starts with a U. 0.98
09:23:40.600 Uganda. 0.99
09:23:43.260 What's another U country?
09:23:44.660 Uranus. 0.94
09:23:46.420 Girl, that's a planet.
09:23:47.840 U. 1.00
09:23:48.840 What's another U country? 0.87
09:23:50.140 I'll remember that for the next question.
09:23:51.740 Ukraine?
09:23:53.480 Could be Ukraine.
09:23:55.040 No, it's not. 1.00
09:23:55.520 You know those Ukrainian Mexican restaurants go hard as fuck. 0.99
09:23:59.800 It's with the U? 1.00
09:24:00.600 Yeah.
09:24:01.120 Can I guess?
09:24:03.280 No.
09:24:04.040 No, she should take it.
09:24:05.320 I think she really wants to.
09:24:07.700 Go ahead.
09:24:07.980 The United States.
09:24:09.060 Wow, congratulations.
09:24:10.120 Sorry, I had to get one right, okay?
09:24:13.480 How many months or in a year?
09:24:15.540 12.
09:24:16.060 How many hours in a day?
09:24:22.020 Girl, it ain't a trick question.
09:24:23.660 12? 1.00
09:24:25.640 Are you dead ass? 1.00
09:24:26.900 Wait, like 24 hours? 1.00
09:24:27.880 Yeah.
09:24:28.160 Oh, sorry.
09:24:28.640 I thought you meant on the clock.
09:24:30.160 Sorry, you need to be a little specific.
09:24:33.460 I don't understand it.
09:24:34.460 Obviously, it's 24 hours.
09:24:36.580 Obviously.
09:24:37.420 Obviously.
09:24:38.460 I was just thinking about the clock.
09:24:41.520 Tiffany.
09:24:43.560 Wada.
09:24:44.880 And pizza.
09:24:46.220 Wait, what if I need to use the bathroom?
09:24:47.320 Maybe if you got us pizza. 0.98
09:24:48.500 We actually have tubes that...
09:24:51.320 He's going to give you a catheter.
09:24:52.540 We have tubes that people can connect to under the table if you need to urinate in moments like this.
09:24:57.780 But what if you just cut a hole into the...
09:24:59.420 Actually, I'm not going to give you ideas. 1.00
09:25:01.240 What the fuck? 0.98
09:25:01.980 Thank you. 1.00
09:25:02.420 Tiffany, can I have water, please?
09:25:03.880 Thank you. 0.99
09:25:05.840 Medieval torture devices.
09:25:07.400 Tiffany. 0.98
09:25:07.840 Ryan, have some decorum.
09:25:08.540 Wait, can we have some... 1.00
09:25:09.560 Tiffany, get her some water.
09:25:10.520 Wait, Tiffany, I love you.
09:25:11.360 Immediately. 1.00
09:25:12.460 Immediately, slave girl. 1.00
09:25:14.060 Tiffany, we're grateful for you. 1.00
09:25:16.080 Facts.
09:25:16.560 Big up to Tiffany.
09:25:17.500 Tiffany deals with Ryan all the time.
09:25:20.420 Tiffany, you are literally the strongest woman on this planet, and you know it, too.
09:25:24.580 Only seven months? 0.99
09:25:25.960 She has to deal with... 1.00
09:25:27.620 she has to deal with you bitching and moaning at her all the time what's your longest retained
09:25:32.300 employee oh boy Tiffany you deserve an Oscar was it over two years um I think I had someone I think 1.00
09:25:40.200 Nick was here for like two years I think what's your longest female employee she just doesn't 1.00
09:25:46.420 even talk back at this point you better yeah but see the thing is is that Asian women abuse you in 1.00
09:25:54.060 private good like i bet tiffany cracks the whip in her relationships but she doesn't abuse you 1.00
09:26:01.020 she's quiet well she lets you go at her tiffany the amount of times tiffany has called me fat 0.96
09:26:07.620 well you are it's okay yeah but just like i wonder what you've called her yeah you called
09:26:13.400 earlier you were really mean to her and disrespectful i've never insulted tiffany
09:26:18.320 But you were yelling at her earlier.
09:26:20.040 No, I've been rude to Tiffany, but I've never been like, I've never said something like
09:26:25.200 an insult to Tiffany.
09:26:26.280 Well, you guys have a close, no, she doesn't mean it. 1.00
09:26:28.220 Oh, wait, Tiffany, have I called you retarded? 1.00
09:26:29.520 Yeah, you did earlier. 1.00
09:26:31.820 Wait, wait, wait, we're almost done.
09:26:33.400 Come back.
09:26:34.200 Aubrey.
09:26:34.880 Aubrey, stop.
09:26:36.500 Aubrey, stop.
09:26:38.980 No, you're right to wait.
09:26:40.660 Yeah, see, yeah.
09:26:42.400 Don't.
09:26:42.860 Yeah, you're right to wait. 0.99
09:26:43.940 Like, I have shit to do. 0.95
09:26:45.380 I have to drive to NorCal, okay? 0.99
09:26:47.320 I fly back tomorrow.
09:26:47.880 I got to check out at 11 a.m.
09:26:49.360 I have to go down to L.A., pack stuff.
09:26:52.680 We'll drop her off.
09:26:53.700 It's frozen?
09:26:54.640 Yeah, because I got her from the bag.
09:26:56.240 Oh, that's why.
09:26:57.080 Can I have that? 1.00
09:26:57.860 Shit. 1.00
09:26:58.440 How much longer? 1.00
09:26:59.300 I'll wait for it to melt.
09:27:00.480 It's so hot.
09:27:01.280 We're close. 1.00
09:27:01.880 Let me, guys, stop talking about labias and shit. 0.99
09:27:04.780 Let me get through this. 0.99
09:27:05.480 You're thinking about labias. 1.00
09:27:06.180 Stop talking so much about fucking labias and titties and shit. 1.00
09:27:09.080 Let me get through it. 1.00
09:27:10.240 Listen.
09:27:11.140 Yeah.
09:27:12.120 It's crazy.
09:27:12.700 Okay.
09:27:13.320 Where were we?
09:27:15.040 Skip, skip, skip, skip, skip.
09:27:16.280 Ask me how many hours there are in a day.
09:27:19.340 What do you call a shape with five sides, Aubrey?
09:27:25.500 Pentagon.
09:27:26.940 There we go.
09:27:27.860 We got a W.
09:27:28.540 We got a W for Aubrey there.
09:27:30.360 Okay.
09:27:30.740 How about this, Aubrey?
09:27:32.160 How many sides?
09:27:33.200 Wait, why am I being asked?
09:27:34.340 Yeah, because share.
09:27:35.700 You're chair one, so I start here, I guess.
09:27:37.760 Yeah, go chair two.
09:27:38.600 How many sides does a triangle have?
09:27:40.780 I started melting.
09:27:41.540 Three.
09:27:43.880 Good job.
09:27:44.600 How many zeros are in one million?
09:27:48.600 Oh, I don't even know that one.
09:27:51.300 Hey!
09:27:52.720 Go ahead.
09:27:56.500 Wait.
09:28:00.660 Nine?
09:28:02.640 A lot of money, girl.
09:28:06.020 Nine zeros in a million?
09:28:07.860 Wait, I'm so sorry.
09:28:09.320 Wait, can you...
09:28:10.820 Wait, wait, wait.
09:28:11.620 Nobody say anything.
09:28:12.540 You're going to write out a number and ask her to read it?
09:28:14.820 No, no. Here. I'm going to give you
09:28:16.760 the pen. I feel very targeted right now.
09:28:19.220 I'm going to give you the pen.
09:28:20.680 Okay, he does that. Okay.
09:28:24.700 Write the number million for me
09:28:26.800 on the piece of paper.
09:28:28.460 What do you think a million is? Like, write one million.
09:28:30.340 Oh, like, if they're saying the actual, uh,
09:28:33.260 like, the number, like, writing
09:28:34.640 like, one, zero, zero, zero, zero, not the word million.
09:28:37.420 Are you saying the word million? 1.00
09:28:38.700 Well, sure, fuck it. Let's do both. 1.00
09:28:41.320 It's late. I'm tired.
09:28:42.540 We're going to do, okay, we're going to do both.
09:28:44.960 Spell a million.
09:28:46.040 Okay.
09:28:46.600 And then also write, like, using numbers.
09:28:50.080 Oh, boy.
09:28:52.580 Eight.
09:28:54.160 Eight.
09:28:56.360 Rude.
09:28:58.760 Oh, boy, I'll tell you what.
09:29:00.680 And then you're going to hold it up to the camera. 0.99
09:29:05.520 You've been writing for way too fucking long. 0.91
09:29:08.660 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 1.00
09:29:10.780 All right, hold that shit up. 1.00
09:29:11.840 Hold that shit up 1.00
09:29:14.780 Hold it up right here 1.00
09:29:16.880 Hey Aubrey, hold that shit up right now 1.00
09:29:19.120 Aubrey, quick, quick, quick 0.99
09:29:20.400 Hey Aubrey, your ride's here, hold it up 0.91
09:29:22.280 Come on girl, we'll go home
09:29:23.120 Hold it, why do you ride it so small, man?
09:29:27.420 Wait, where am I holding it?
09:29:28.640 Just right here, pass it to me
09:29:30.580 I think you did, from what I saw from the back
09:29:33.320 I spelled it right
09:29:34.300 Okay, wait, let's see
09:29:35.780 You can, you just gotta give it a second
09:29:38.580 Yeah, like that
09:29:40.140 No, not these cameras.
09:29:41.440 These are sick.
09:29:42.640 Here, I'll just read it.
09:29:43.800 Man, this is...
09:29:44.860 One gazillion.
09:29:46.720 She wrote a billion.
09:29:49.000 That's a billion.
09:29:49.680 Yeah, when she said nine.
09:29:50.780 That's one billion.
09:29:52.100 That's why she's saying nine.
09:29:53.700 All right, man.
09:29:54.380 That's great.
09:29:54.680 It has six zeros, right?
09:29:55.180 She spelled a million right, though.
09:29:56.600 Give her her credit.
09:29:57.600 You did spell that right, so congratulations.
09:30:00.260 Got you, Aubrey.
09:30:01.020 You got that right.
09:30:02.620 What do you...
09:30:03.780 I took two years' math.
09:30:04.480 What country gifted the Statue of Liberty to the U.S.?
09:30:09.840 i couldn't even tell you uh brie no i don't know
09:30:16.580 i don't remember history i didn't pay attention to that what what country gifted the statue of
09:30:23.380 liberty to the u.s wait us all quick was it wait was it year was it france france france
09:30:32.140 statue of liberty who gifted the statue of liberty russia tilt your mic down yeah russia
09:30:38.360 I have no idea.
09:30:40.100 You don't know?
09:30:41.100 I have no idea.
09:30:42.520 I just look at that.
09:30:44.040 It's France.
09:30:45.000 It might be France.
09:30:46.100 It looks like a France statue.
09:30:47.120 I know that.
09:30:47.720 It used to be copper.
09:30:48.920 I know that.
09:30:49.300 Oh, yeah.
09:30:49.720 It used to be copper.
09:30:50.940 It's still copper.
09:30:52.160 It's just tarnished.
09:30:53.280 All right.
09:30:53.780 Yeah.
09:30:54.420 How many months have 28 days?
09:30:59.620 One.
09:31:00.500 I know which one.
09:31:03.280 Only because it's me and Cameron's anniversary and I forgot it.
09:31:06.480 Answer the question.
09:31:07.280 Okay.
09:31:08.360 How many months have 28 days?
09:31:10.780 What?
09:31:11.280 It's the Valentine's Day month.
09:31:14.020 Which month?
09:31:14.420 Really? 1.00
09:31:15.260 No fucking... 1.00
09:31:16.300 Name it, though. 1.00
09:31:18.280 Come on.
09:31:19.220 Valentine's Day, was it?
09:31:20.780 Wait, just list...
09:31:21.380 Just say the months, like, in your head.
09:31:23.160 Yeah, list the months.
09:31:25.180 January, February.
09:31:32.300 What?
09:31:32.960 You already answered it.
09:31:33.900 No, how many months have 28 days?
09:31:35.640 February.
09:31:36.000 Oh, February.
09:31:36.820 Yeah?
09:31:37.140 All of them.
09:31:38.360 300 IQ
09:31:39.740 Oh my god
09:31:40.560 You're such a trick
09:31:41.380 No they don't
09:31:42.240 31 days in October
09:31:43.980 See that's a trick though
09:31:45.020 Because it was presumed
09:31:46.120 That you meant only 28 days
09:31:47.940 You guys
09:31:48.780 October has 31 1.00
09:31:51.140 You guys fucked up 0.99
09:31:52.040 What do you mean 1.00
09:31:52.840 No
09:31:53.600 It's
09:31:54.220 All months have 28 days in them
09:31:57.200 It was like a technicality
09:31:59.200 Like it was like
09:31:59.960 He tricked you with the wording
09:32:00.980 Yeah
09:32:01.400 You're done
09:32:02.280 You know English is my third language
09:32:03.620 Okay
09:32:04.780 That's like saying
09:32:05.460 Is your name Ryan
09:32:06.500 Yeah
09:32:07.200 Yeah
09:32:07.500 because it's in your name, right?
09:32:10.200 No, that doesn't matter.
09:32:11.320 Yeah, that's literally what it is.
09:32:13.440 You tricked me. 0.97
09:32:15.100 You're bad. 0.99
09:32:16.520 I'm a terrible person, you're right. 0.97
09:32:18.320 What continent is Brazil in?
09:32:22.520 Wait.
09:32:23.080 Oh, is it?
09:32:25.920 Don't look to them.
09:32:26.960 No, I'm not. I'm thinking.
09:32:27.760 No one's looking.
09:32:30.880 Wait, I actually
09:32:31.820 do know this.
09:32:33.460 I think I may know this.
09:32:34.580 yeah might be wrong you got this no because if i answer something bad i'm gonna look like a
09:32:41.760 complete spain just guess though now you have to guess my back is in spain spain it's sure
09:32:47.680 brazil is in spain no okay no no idea what what um continent is brazil what continent is brazil
09:32:57.020 Oh my gosh
09:32:59.600 Brazil
09:33:01.500 Okay, it's in the same continent as Colombia, right?
09:33:05.900 Oh wait, that's in Spain
09:33:06.800 It's in Spain, okay
09:33:08.740 South America
09:33:10.340 South America
09:33:11.460 Wait, we skipped to this one
09:33:13.460 Spain is in South America
09:33:14.200 Spain is in Europe
09:33:16.440 Oh, I'm sorry, I was thinking
09:33:18.020 Guys, guys, guys, quiet, quiet
09:33:19.600 Guys, Aubrey, I gotta get Aubrey out of here, bruv
09:33:22.640 Okay, Aubrey
09:33:24.100 How many
09:33:24.880 You're here. Aubrey, how many continents
09:33:27.280 are there? Seven. Okay.
09:33:29.600 Yeah, what do you think?
09:33:31.140 How many continents?
09:33:34.660 Oh, yeah.
09:33:36.900 Yeah.
09:33:38.760 How many continents, Aubrey?
09:33:40.880 Or, sorry, us all. Hold up. I'm trying to think
09:33:43.180 here. Oh, boy. Is it six?
09:33:46.260 Six? Okay.
09:33:47.200 How many continents? Seven.
09:33:49.000 Alright, name one continent.
09:33:51.440 What's a seven?
09:33:52.180 And you can't repeat.
09:33:53.940 There's only four of you, though.
09:33:54.920 It should be easy.
09:33:56.480 Name one continent.
09:33:59.360 Antarctica. 1.00
09:34:00.200 Fuck. 1.00
09:34:03.780 Oh, sorry. 1.00
09:34:04.580 What was your question?
09:34:05.760 Name one continent.
09:34:07.000 I'll just repeat.
09:34:08.060 I was on a different one.
09:34:10.840 I don't know.
09:34:15.980 Just come on.
09:34:17.160 Throw something out.
09:34:19.020 Something?
09:34:19.500 You're starting.
09:34:20.340 So you have all seven available to you
09:34:22.400 Uh huh
09:34:22.820 You said there's seven continents right
09:34:25.280 Just name one
09:34:26.180 I'm okay
09:34:28.820 He's tired
09:34:30.020 I'm tired 1.00
09:34:31.820 Spain
09:34:34.760 Come on
09:34:36.320 I'm kidding
09:34:38.080 Name a continent
09:34:39.640 South America
09:34:42.980 South America
09:34:44.780 North America
09:34:45.900 Africa 0.98
09:34:46.700 Anything
09:34:48.960 I'm okay.
09:34:50.140 I don't want to talk anymore.
09:34:52.300 I don't want to talk.
09:34:53.360 Okay.
09:34:53.820 You know the people.
09:34:54.420 I'm really tired.
09:34:55.860 I'm going to give you a hint. 0.97
09:34:57.060 You know that island where the people who used to be British moved to? 1.00
09:35:03.480 And it's like, good day, mate. 1.00
09:35:06.100 What's that?
09:35:07.540 England?
09:35:08.200 Are you talking about, like, London?
09:35:10.100 Like, I think.
09:35:11.220 Okay.
09:35:11.760 Island.
09:35:12.560 Oh, wait.
09:35:12.880 Wait.
09:35:13.660 Australia.
09:35:14.940 Wait.
09:35:15.980 Wait.
09:35:16.700 Okay.
09:35:17.020 Good job.
09:35:18.580 Why did I say so much in and I thought British? 0.99
09:35:21.300 Well done. 0.98
09:35:22.020 Antarctica was one of them.
09:35:23.340 I always forget about it.
09:35:25.460 What continent is Egypt in?
09:35:28.820 Wait.
09:35:29.960 E, wait.
09:35:31.020 North, wait.
09:35:32.260 North, yeah.
09:35:33.020 Yeah, north, I think, yeah.
09:35:34.400 It's just called north?
09:35:35.460 No, no, no.
09:35:36.680 North, I think.
09:35:39.040 Hold on.
09:35:41.340 Oh, my God.
09:35:42.000 No, I literally know this.
09:35:42.880 Hold on.
09:35:43.040 Oh, boy.
09:35:43.880 North Africa, I think.
09:35:45.920 Is it north?
09:35:46.400 we will accept it okay north america oh what continent is japan in
09:35:52.760 why me sorry chair one gets the brunt of it no because we go that way all the time you're done
09:35:59.440 what continent is japan in
09:36:05.080 sorry what's another name for japanese people oh is it west asia wait no not west asia no no no
09:36:14.300 uh east east asia i'll accept it um how many dimes make a dollar dimes
09:36:23.040 coin yeah i know what a coin is wait oh 10 what is the capital of france
09:36:31.340 paris
09:36:33.760 what country i wait i actually already asked this um
09:36:42.200 Skip, skip, skip
09:36:45.180 What is 50% of 200?
09:36:51.120 100
09:36:51.600 10% of 100 1.00
09:36:53.600 Oh shit 1.00
09:36:57.660 Oh shit 1.00
09:36:59.040 It's stressing me out 0.99
09:37:00.520 10% of 100?
09:37:02.300 10% of 100
09:37:03.500 Is that 10?
09:37:05.080 Maybe, what do you think?
09:37:07.040 10
09:37:07.560 5 times 5
09:37:09.000 25
09:37:10.380 12 divide by 3
09:37:15.120 Oh my god
09:37:16.820 I never was good at all of that
09:37:19.920 I studied human behavior
09:37:21.980 It doesn't have math 1.00
09:37:24.380 I shit you not 0.98
09:37:25.160 I've been taking it 0.99
09:37:26.120 Zero math
09:37:26.940 No we don't have that either
09:37:28.400 You gotta count
09:37:29.060 Okay think about it
09:37:30.000 If 12 people rob a bank
09:37:36.440 Wait hold on
09:37:39.640 What was the answer?
09:37:40.720 That was a weird way to put it, yeah.
09:37:43.220 Hold on.
09:37:44.220 I'm trying to think of it.
09:37:45.200 Was it 12 divided by 3?
09:37:46.760 100 divided by 4.
09:37:51.460 100 divided by 4 is 25.
09:37:53.820 Well done.
09:37:56.260 15 plus 35.
09:38:00.380 Wait, 50.
09:38:01.620 90 minus 45.
09:38:04.920 65?
09:38:07.040 You sure it's not 67?
09:38:10.340 No.
09:38:11.340 Six, seven.
09:38:12.480 Oh, you're so funny. 1.00
09:38:15.380 That's a knee slapper right there. 1.00
09:38:17.560 What century are we in?
09:38:20.780 Oh, 21st.
09:38:23.180 What century are we in?
09:38:25.320 21st.
09:38:25.940 21st.
09:38:27.260 What galaxy do we live in?
09:38:30.700 I don't know.
09:38:31.120 Just guess.
09:38:32.260 I don't even know.
09:38:33.820 I didn't know.
09:38:34.840 What galaxy are we in?
09:38:36.820 Geology. 0.91
09:38:38.080 Girl! 0.99
09:38:38.560 What galaxy? 0.71
09:38:40.800 The universe?
09:38:41.860 The universe galaxy.
09:38:43.220 The Milky Way.
09:38:43.720 The Milky Way.
09:38:44.540 Oh, that's what it was.
09:38:46.620 She got her little five-bath, five-bedroom Minnesota education.
09:38:51.840 I hope you know what the Milky Way is.
09:38:54.820 She got her education money.
09:38:56.340 No, it's funny.
09:38:56.860 I learned about the stars for a class in college.
09:39:00.040 That's like...
09:39:00.860 Did not stick at all. 1.00
09:39:02.380 That was like Jamaican or some shit. 1.00
09:39:04.240 My high school had like 100 kids in it. 1.00
09:39:06.720 Oh, so they were really straight. 0.94
09:39:08.020 How many in one dozen?
09:39:10.540 Twelve.
09:39:11.900 How many months in a decade?
09:39:13.880 Oof.
09:39:15.300 Yeah.
09:39:16.820 That's a hard one.
09:39:18.500 I haven't even been alive in a decade.
09:39:20.860 Yeah, that's so true.
09:39:23.440 You haven't even been alive a decade.
09:39:25.560 Yeah.
09:39:25.900 Wait, no.
09:39:26.640 Months in a...
09:39:27.560 In a decade.
09:39:28.420 How much is a decade?
09:39:30.300 I couldn't even...
09:39:31.180 Wait, how many years are in a decade?
09:39:33.940 Isn't it ten?
09:39:35.240 Is it?
09:39:35.600 I don't know.
09:39:36.420 You don't know?
09:39:36.820 could not tell you oh i feel that way it is 10 oh i'm smart thank you guys think about centuries 0.85
09:39:44.420 or some shit yeah who was the first president of the united states i think it was is it george or 0.53
09:39:53.820 bush oh girl oh was he a president he was bush was president like 20 years it was george washington 0.98
09:40:01.840 Oh my god
09:40:03.060 George Bush
09:40:03.520 I haven't been here
09:40:04.520 Wait is he 20 years ago
09:40:06.200 Like he's alive
09:40:06.700 Was he the one
09:40:07.560 Was George Bush
09:40:08.300 The 9-11 president
09:40:09.260 I don't know 1.00
09:40:10.120 Uh okay
09:40:10.740 Oh okay
09:40:11.440 I probably mixed him up
09:40:12.420 With his dad
09:40:13.140 What country
09:40:14.460 I remember it was Obama 0.98
09:40:15.560 It's okay 0.76
09:40:16.440 What country
09:40:17.480 Is the Great Wall of China in
09:40:19.040 China
09:40:19.960 That's all 1.00
09:40:22.460 Oh like country
09:40:24.160 Yeah what country is it in
09:40:25.380 Oh wait
09:40:25.880 Yeah
09:40:26.140 Oh wait
09:40:27.040 Let's wait
09:40:27.600 Let's come back to that
09:40:29.320 japan one would infer china china are you sure yes because she said japan that doesn't make
09:40:39.240 no sense girl i just said it just because that's how china got its name because of the great wall
09:40:43.980 of china in japan you're you learn something every day nope i'm dead serious it was japan
09:40:51.040 how many days in a year three six five how many seasons are there four how many letters in the
09:40:56.980 alphabet 36 36 maybe yeah that's all
09:41:05.860 sorry girl you better count them
09:41:12.500 i lost my 27 27 it's 26 or 27 yeah 26 i think it's 26 i think it's 26 i don't know i think
09:41:24.400 it's 26 how many aubry how many days of the week end with the letter y all of them oh clever well
09:41:32.080 done what language do the people in idaho speak for you idaho idaho what do they speak there
09:41:39.960 like they have an accent what no what do they speak there though what language okay
09:41:45.880 How many
09:41:48.760 Western English?
09:41:50.000 How many years are in a century?
09:41:55.040 Can anyone answer?
09:41:57.160 Oh, okay.
09:41:58.100 No?
09:41:59.260 Say you don't know.
09:42:02.540 I do not know.
09:42:03.880 A hundred.
09:42:05.200 A hundred.
09:42:06.200 What is the closest star to Earth?
09:42:10.680 The sun.
09:42:12.260 Really?
09:42:13.160 Is it?
09:42:14.540 What do you think?
09:42:16.320 Uranus.
09:42:17.160 Oh, yeah.
09:42:18.380 You betcha.
09:42:19.660 You betcha, yeah.
09:42:21.060 I actually don't know, but I would guess maybe the north star because we see it the brightest.
09:42:24.660 North star, okay.
09:42:25.540 The sun.
09:42:26.100 The sun, okay.
09:42:27.820 Is the sun a star?
09:42:28.860 The sun's just big.
09:42:29.680 I thought it was like a diamond star or something.
09:42:31.380 I don't know.
09:42:31.800 It's big and in charge.
09:42:34.500 What country is the Panama Canal in?
09:42:37.120 Panama.
09:42:39.500 Panama.
09:42:40.260 Is it?
09:42:40.660 One would infer Panama.
09:42:42.260 Panama.
09:42:42.900 It's like what country is...
09:42:44.820 Oh, like a country? 1.00
09:42:46.780 Oh, shit. 1.00
09:42:47.520 Oh, shit, yeah. 1.00
09:42:48.460 Fuck, yeah. 1.00
09:42:49.400 I might not know this one. 1.00
09:42:50.620 Costa Rica, maybe?
09:42:51.500 You're going to Costa Rica.
09:42:52.320 Or who is the Costa Rica person?
09:42:53.800 It is Costa Rica, huh?
09:42:55.700 Who knows?
09:42:56.500 What language do people speak?
09:42:58.820 What language do people speak?
09:43:01.400 What language do people speak in Spain?
09:43:07.140 It'd be Spanish.
09:43:08.820 Wait, no, wait.
09:43:09.820 No, hold on.
09:43:10.760 Well, think about it, right?
09:43:12.060 Because they're right next to France.
09:43:14.820 They're next to France, right?
09:43:16.160 So it's like...
09:43:17.000 And they're also next to Portugal.
09:43:19.140 What was the question?
09:43:20.140 Right?
09:43:22.040 And like, because Germany and Austria are next to each other.
09:43:25.460 And like in Germany, they speak German.
09:43:27.460 But Austria, they also speak German.
09:43:29.780 So you got to think because Spain is next to France or Portugal.
09:43:35.400 I think it's just...
09:43:36.760 Or Morocco.
09:43:39.200 I think it would just be Spanish.
09:43:40.920 But I know like how...
09:43:42.920 Boy, I don't know
09:43:46.060 What do they speak in Spain? 1.00
09:43:48.040 Oh, Portuguese
09:43:49.860 Uh-huh, yeah
09:43:51.040 What country is Mexico City in?
09:43:55.840 Mexico?
09:43:57.320 Mexico 0.88
09:43:57.760 It's in the U.S.
09:43:59.140 Avocados from Mexico
09:44:00.280 Oh, I thought you said state
09:44:01.180 That's why I was so confused
09:44:01.940 Mexico
09:44:02.920 What? Mexico City is in the U.S.
09:44:05.380 I don't know what state it is
09:44:06.140 Mexico City is where? Sorry
09:44:07.420 In the U.S.
09:44:08.560 No, you're right
09:44:09.360 It is in the U.S.
09:44:10.100 Where's Mexico City?
09:44:11.120 Mexico
09:44:11.560 there's new mexico whoa oh wait new mexico oh because it's mexico but it's new okay why 1.00
09:44:19.420 you keep doing that shit oh yeah bro there's no way you don't wait can anybody do you guys 0.99
09:44:25.040 um do you get uh what's there's this like 1.00
09:44:29.080 um what state is new york city in new york
09:44:37.760 oh wait am i done 0.99
09:44:42.340 you're right no you're right now he's fucking with us it's new york he's been fucking with 0.99
09:44:48.860 us the whole time i have not been wait hold on i want to you know what's funny i've been 0.99
09:44:55.600 fucking with you yes are we almost done yes hold on i gotta play this 0.90
09:45:01.060 Sorry, I don't know why I thought of that right now. 1.00
09:45:19.260 Let's see.
09:45:19.820 Do we have any chats?
09:45:20.920 We're almost done here with the questions.
09:45:24.060 And then we have to do the AI.
09:45:26.540 I have to go.
09:45:28.140 We're almost done.
09:45:29.040 Brian, my ride is outside for me right now.
09:45:32.900 I have to drive back to L.A. tonight.
09:45:34.640 Are they watching the stream?
09:45:36.220 They want to see more of you.
09:45:37.880 No, they really do not.
09:45:38.720 They have to deal with me every day.
09:45:39.820 Here's what I'm going to do.
09:45:40.400 I'm going to do...
09:45:41.820 I'm tired. 1.00
09:45:44.180 What country is Roman? 0.96
09:45:46.880 Italy.
09:45:47.760 What country is Barcelona in? 1.00
09:45:49.700 Ah, shit. 1.00
09:45:51.320 We'll just blast through it. 1.00
09:45:53.000 Just guess country or be like, I don't know.
09:45:55.300 What country is Paris in?
09:45:56.900 What country is Tokyo in?
09:45:59.040 wait japan what country is vienna in okay of course yes the one i don't know
09:46:05.080 uh what what country is munich in that's a country what country is beijing in oh
09:46:11.480 japan you're right smart girl love japan
09:46:16.740 uh what country is amsterdam in
09:46:22.080 i don't know wait put that down sorry it's a i don't know uh okay what country is london in
09:46:29.040 United Kingdom, or UK.
09:46:33.320 What country is Madrid in?
09:46:37.360 Spain.
09:46:38.320 What language do people speak in Mexico?
09:46:41.040 Did I already ask that?
09:46:42.760 No, you asked what language they speak in Spain.
09:46:44.800 What language do they speak in Mexico?
09:46:46.740 Spanish.
09:46:48.760 Spanish, really? 0.98
09:46:49.740 Not Mexican? Okay. 1.00
09:46:52.260 That's what you were looking for.
09:46:53.560 I was going to give it to him.
09:46:56.120 Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
09:46:59.040 Wait, no, I actually
09:47:03.660 Wait
09:47:06.940 See, I have an answer, but I don't think it's the correct one
09:47:17.500 Just say it, it's fine
09:47:18.040 Just throw out an answer
09:47:19.480 No, no, no, I'm okay 1.00
09:47:20.520 I'll give a stupider one 1.00
09:47:22.500 Yeah, you do it first 1.00
09:47:24.400 Britain 0.69
09:47:24.960 Britain, what do you think? 1.00
09:47:26.520 No, I don't want to remember
09:47:27.320 Aubrey, come on
09:47:29.000 What country
09:47:32.760 did the Vietnam War happen in?
09:47:36.580 Vietnam.
09:47:38.880 Yep.
09:47:39.560 What is 34 plus
09:47:41.140 66?
09:47:42.960 100. What is 100
09:47:44.900 minus 66?
09:47:49.760 Girl, he just gave it.
09:47:51.600 Girl, he just gave it.
09:47:53.620 Wait, what was it?
09:47:54.480 What was it?
09:47:59.000 oh boy all right 44 uh 77 plus 33 um it's 100 66 plus 44
09:48:07.780 i know what is it 110 bro he just asked her that yeah of course yeah he asked her that what
09:48:19.660 uh i'm gonna skip the world war one actually i don't be able to tell you a thing about that
09:48:25.040 Actually, yeah, really quick.
09:48:27.380 What decade was World War I?
09:48:29.980 So what I'm looking for is like, was it 1820s, 1970s?
09:48:35.360 I'm looking for a decade.
09:48:36.120 No, I think Mary would know these.
09:48:37.460 I know.
09:48:37.900 I would assume somewhere in 18. 0.93
09:48:39.700 Maybe she would.
09:48:41.100 No. 0.95
09:48:41.700 Just throw out a decade.
09:48:42.680 18 what?
09:48:43.960 Sure, 18 right now.
09:48:45.060 18 what?
09:48:45.780 Just 18 in general.
09:48:46.920 No, it has to be, give me a decade.
09:48:48.300 I don't know.
09:48:49.620 1880s?
09:48:50.140 Actually, you got it.
09:48:51.020 Sure.
09:48:51.380 Okay, decade.
09:48:52.940 World War I.
09:48:53.640 When?
09:48:53.780 It was the 1600s
09:48:56.620 1600s 0.99
09:48:57.400 That's a fucking century 0.99
09:48:58.900 But okay 0.99
09:48:59.340 When was
09:49:00.400 1900s 1.00
09:49:01.320 That's a fucking 0.99
09:49:02.360 A century 1.00
09:49:02.900 You gave her a fucking century 1.00
09:49:04.140 Okay give me a decade 1.00
09:49:05.080 19
09:49:05.700 I would guess
09:49:06.920 Maybe 1920s
09:49:08.200 1920s
09:49:08.860 What do you think
09:49:09.640 18 what
09:49:10.300 16 what
09:49:10.820 I would like to know the answer at the end
09:49:12.000 What about you
09:49:12.520 World War I
09:49:14.020 World War I
09:49:14.760 1930s
09:49:15.900 1930s
09:49:16.820 Hey
09:49:17.240 You're all wrong
09:49:18.500 It's 1910s
09:49:19.940 It was the 1910s
09:49:20.880 Oh no
09:49:21.840 1914
09:49:22.940 I was wrong.
09:49:25.380 Can you name three K-pop stars?
09:49:27.660 Anybody?
09:49:28.500 No.
09:49:29.360 Loki, I probably can.
09:49:31.380 Maybe.
09:49:32.160 Can you name three Kardashians?
09:49:34.980 Kim, Kourtney, Khloe.
09:49:36.700 Keep going if you know more.
09:49:38.180 We accept Jenners.
09:49:40.660 Kris, Kendall. 0.99
09:49:43.000 Just the women? 0.96
09:49:43.980 All of them. 1.00
09:49:46.300 Rob.
09:49:47.180 All of them.
09:49:47.860 The dad.
09:49:49.340 Oh, that's what you said.
09:49:50.460 Oh, I don't know the...
09:49:51.220 The Kardashians and Jenners
09:49:53.300 Well there's Bruce
09:49:55.520 And then Caitlyn
09:49:56.460 Wait no Caitlyn and Bruce same person
09:49:58.680 Oh wait it's Caitlyn now
09:50:00.120 What's the original dad
09:50:02.600 I don't know the original dad
09:50:03.460 Kylie
09:50:04.560 Name all the Kardashians
09:50:10.220 Go ahead
09:50:10.700 That you know
09:50:12.700 That I know
09:50:13.740 Khloe
09:50:15.380 Kourtney and Kim
09:50:18.580 And then yeah
09:50:20.740 Those are the Kardashians
09:50:22.660 I think that's it 0.98
09:50:26.420 Tiffany will do the AI segment 1.00
09:50:27.900 That'll take one minute and then we're done
09:50:29.900 Thank you guys, appreciate it
09:50:31.080 None of my videos, how rude
09:50:32.560 Do you want to do some?
09:50:33.480 We can do some
09:50:33.900 We can't do all of them
09:50:38.620 But we'll blaspheme us
09:50:39.780 Tiffany
09:50:40.740 You ready, Tiffany?
09:50:46.300 What, you don't like your AI self?
09:50:48.360 I don't like AI
09:50:49.000 I was so confused.
09:50:51.300 They turned you into a man.
09:50:52.800 Okay, the question is, would you date the male version of you?
09:50:56.040 Ready?
09:50:56.440 Probably not.
09:50:57.900 Oh, whoops, sorry.
09:50:59.400 Oh, you're handsome.
09:51:00.440 Wait.
09:51:00.940 Would you date...
09:51:01.540 You have hair, yeah.
09:51:02.300 I date myself with a beard.
09:51:03.680 You date them.
09:51:04.560 Yeah, I was gonna be with you.
09:51:05.420 Next.
09:51:06.600 Oh, why'd you clip me?
09:51:09.600 Well, she's not here, but...
09:51:10.900 She looks so innocent as a man, too.
09:51:12.380 Yeah, she does.
09:51:13.880 I think... 1.00
09:51:14.920 I think she only dates black dudes. 1.00
09:51:17.120 I think she only dates black dudes 0.98
09:51:19.420 So that's what she told me 0.72
09:51:22.080 Before the show
09:51:22.720 So I don't think she'd go for this guy
09:51:24.840 I'm answering on her behalf
09:51:26.160 Why'd you give me a patchy beard bro
09:51:33.980 I can't have a good beard
09:51:35.140 He's pretty good looking 0.98
09:51:37.620 Yeah but I just don't love the facial hair
09:51:40.140 Yeah but there's the middle guy
09:51:41.380 Oh yeah middle guy's hot
09:51:43.440 I don't know why
09:51:45.100 I looked at the bearded as if that was the final version for some reason.
09:51:47.860 No, that's just like two options.
09:51:49.400 No, I would actually do.
09:51:50.500 Okay, next.
09:51:53.420 Wow. 0.87
09:51:54.080 Why'd you guys give her eyes like this? 0.91
09:51:56.540 Her eyes do not look like that. 0.93
09:52:00.600 Her eyes do not look like that.
09:52:02.600 You took it when she was like blinking or she was tired.
09:52:05.340 That's my son.
09:52:06.080 No, that's so mean.
09:52:07.680 No, genuinely y'all did that on purpose.
09:52:08.760 And why is her third man not bearded? 0.99
09:52:11.320 He's just tired as fuck. 0.99
09:52:12.300 No, they just made a tired one and a regular one. 1.00
09:52:14.640 Well, just like your genetic male equivalent doesn't have the genetics to grow hair. 0.77
09:52:20.640 I swear to God, I think they did this because you talked about a lot of white men. 0.56
09:52:24.060 Would you date him?
09:52:25.200 I don't date white guys. 0.99
09:52:25.940 Would you do nasty things to that man? 1.00
09:52:30.140 No.
09:52:30.900 Would you...
09:52:31.780 Maybe I'm scared of them.
09:52:33.260 Would you get a scoop of that ice cream?
09:52:36.400 Nope.
09:52:36.900 Would you break yourself off a piece of that?
09:52:40.940 Look at me.
09:52:41.380 Whoa. 0.79
09:52:42.020 You guys made her the worst version. 1.00
09:52:44.140 would you break you didn't even give her a chance let's okay fine she wouldn't we got three other 0.68
09:52:50.200 women here though would you break yourself would you uh break yourself for my time honey 1.00
09:52:55.860 would you break yourself a piece of that fine no not my time would you yeah of the one all the 1.00
09:53:01.660 way to the left oh shit that's a chick though yes yes whoa yeah she bought me yeah i'm driving her 0.99
09:53:12.000 home oh wow there's you guys are okay um wow you guys are um you jealous well i see well you're 0.99
09:53:21.560 bisexual aren't you yeah oh make sure you get her concerns okay all right would you date the would 0.90
09:53:29.100 you get date this beefcake would you date that beefcake they did make his arms a little bit
09:53:34.300 figure next okay she's pretty cute as a guy would you date him kind of looks like my brother
09:53:44.040 i'm like that's funny that's how my brother look alike the far right looks like a terrorist but
09:53:49.000 um very very like racist but okay why is that racist why does he look like a terrorist because 0.99
09:53:54.280 he's a beard he's actually pale as fuck he does not look like a terrorist no that's a white dude 0.99
09:54:01.540 Sure. 1.00
09:54:02.720 That's a white guy.
09:54:03.480 Sure.
09:54:03.660 Come on.
09:54:04.040 That's a white guy.
09:54:04.180 It's literally a Middle Eastern girl as a Middle Eastern man. 1.00
09:54:07.620 He looks more like he's from fucking Dallas. 0.99
09:54:09.240 Okay, you tell me. 1.00
09:54:10.040 Why did you think he looked like a terrorist? 0.75
09:54:11.460 A lot of Persian people are usually that skin tone, so... 0.71
09:54:13.980 Because... 1.00
09:54:15.160 We're more olives.
09:54:15.520 Because give me three pointers that made you think that man looks like a terrorist.
09:54:18.360 It's because I've been using a...
09:54:19.720 Wait, guys, wait.
09:54:20.280 I want him to talk.
09:54:20.960 Wait, wait.
09:54:21.140 I want him to talk.
09:54:21.740 Oh, okay. 0.98
09:54:22.200 I got her upset.
09:54:23.700 There's something dead in the eyes there.
09:54:25.880 It's not because...
09:54:26.400 Oh, yeah.
09:54:26.860 So the other AIs weren't dead.
09:54:28.240 It's just that one.
09:54:29.080 Just that one. 0.73
09:54:29.560 I think, well, then mine's definitely a terrorist 0.85
09:54:31.640 because mine's a terrorist. 1.00
09:54:32.720 No, yeah, her guy looks like he was, like, on fucking drugs. 1.00
09:54:35.440 We're both carrying the bomb. 1.00
09:54:37.240 School shooter. School shooter for you. 0.99
09:54:39.260 Oh, shit, yeah, that's a good one. 1.00
09:54:41.960 Cornell 7. Oh, my God. 1.00
09:54:43.340 Oh, my God. No.
09:54:45.520 Uh-uh. Too soon, too soon.
09:54:47.520 Uh-uh. Too soon? I don't know.
09:54:49.500 No, mine was quite handsome.
09:54:51.180 Next. I'll throw it. Don't worry.
09:54:54.420 Wait, who's that?
09:54:55.620 Oh, is that Andrew? What the hell? 0.97
09:54:57.340 Okay, the middle one is kind of 1.00
09:54:59.220 eating next the blonde is accurate low-key um yikes why actually bro whoa okay the last one 1.00
09:55:07.680 okay i can see the last one the girl in the middle you look nothing like that yeah well 1.00
09:55:12.660 that's a lot of makeup i think she made like a hot version of you and a less attractive yeah
09:55:15.700 i think the last one is what you are deep down you like to be like deep in your soul you're alt
09:55:23.320 And you're like a rightist
09:55:25.520 Or leftist
09:55:26.840 I would date the middle 1.00
09:55:28.600 Hold on she's got a little chunk 1.00
09:55:31.060 The one on the right 1.00
09:55:32.960 But you have chunk
09:55:34.040 Because you passed down the chunk 0.99
09:55:36.960 That's right girl 1.00
09:55:38.200 Wait you have chunk why does it matter if she has chunk 1.00
09:55:40.580 The one in the middle 1.00
09:55:42.440 I would get with she was good looking 1.00
09:55:44.320 But the one on the right had chunk 1.00
09:55:45.620 She got the septum piercing 1.00
09:55:48.880 And she got fucking pink 1.00
09:55:50.280 Or fucking green hair or something 1.00
09:55:51.900 You like pink hair 1.00
09:55:53.880 Pink hair is all right, but the green hair, like the short hair, like that shit, I would not. 0.99
09:55:59.220 Okay, yeah. 1.00
09:55:59.880 Man, that's a fucking tranny right there, man. 1.00
09:56:01.840 I ain't trying to get with that, man. 1.00
09:56:03.400 That's fucked up. 0.99
09:56:04.060 All right. 0.99
09:56:05.380 Okay, some of her videos.
09:56:06.680 Tiffany.
09:56:07.300 Tiffany, pull up Jameela's videos. 0.99
09:56:10.040 Pull up Jameela's. 0.99
09:56:11.000 Jameela.
09:56:11.480 Can you say it right once?
09:56:13.440 No, he can't.
09:56:14.680 Sorry.
09:56:15.460 We'll be video tabbed.
09:56:17.380 Wait.
09:56:20.540 Skip this one, bro.
09:56:22.340 Skip it.
09:56:22.840 and then go
09:56:23.300 yeah skip next
09:56:25.440 did you see the first comment
09:56:27.060 skip
09:56:27.360 we talked about this one too
09:56:31.340 skip this one
09:56:31.840 grounded by muslim values 1.00
09:56:36.480 oh I told you we're not doing it 1.00
09:56:37.960 we'll skip it
09:56:39.800 if you don't want to talk
09:56:41.080 we already did
09:56:44.040 skip that one and then
09:56:46.340 wait can we put audio
09:56:49.580 the world was built for men it was built for their benefit okay you know what i'm just you
09:56:56.980 let me just remind you in case you forgot volume holding a man who is less than you in any way the
09:57:03.660 world was built for men it was built for their benefit okay the least that he should do is be
09:57:09.340 further than you let me just remind you in case you first next next she ate with that erroneous
09:57:14.520 erroneous i'm just gonna press the erroneous button oh this one was funny people hated this
09:57:19.280 a lot of men got so triggered by that since it's just of course can you just read the captions
09:57:23.340 instead of us playing the audio start from the beginning okay go for it oh you want me to read
09:57:29.880 it oh that's funny okay that's fine all right go back i'll do it yeah can you start it again
09:57:33.460 start again i love you all right when a man who wouldn't even who you wouldn't even touch with a
09:57:37.860 10-foot pole hits on you i want you to remember this 50 of men believe that they could land a
09:57:42.800 commercial flight in an emergency he's not confident sweetie he's delusional no comment next
09:57:48.320 you think that too you're done don't ever call me a man oh i posted this oh sorry go back don't
09:57:56.720 ever call me a man hater okay i love a man i love a real man who takes care of his duties 0.99
09:58:01.260 takes care of his family what i hate is a weak ass lustful manipulative loser who plays the 0.99
09:58:08.200 victim and acts like the world wasn't built in his favor don't ever oh that's about to start okay 1.00
09:58:12.760 so you do you so you do hate men um i literally just said don't say i hate men i literally just
09:58:21.300 that was a certain genre that was literally the opener like what like yeah but but but think about 0.99
09:58:28.420 this right like imagine somebody is like i'm not racist but you're about to hear some racist shit 0.95
09:58:34.440 you know it's like so it's like i don't hate men but you know what i mean she just says she 0.99
09:58:39.720 He's a certain type of man.
09:58:41.380 Yeah, exactly.
09:58:42.480 You can't magically be a different race.
09:58:46.560 You could be a different type of man.
09:58:48.140 I'm not racist, but...
09:58:50.440 You keep advocating for...
09:58:51.720 Not the same thing.
09:58:52.940 Okay, next.
09:58:54.820 Pull it back up.
09:58:55.800 Good sir.
09:58:56.700 T-dog.
09:58:58.160 T-dog.
09:58:59.240 T-dog. 1.00
09:59:00.380 Pull it up.
09:59:01.380 Video tap.
09:59:02.360 Pull it up. 1.00
09:59:04.680 Play that shit. 1.00
09:59:06.600 Men want to be women so bad. 1.00
09:59:08.640 a woman's job is nothing but to reciprocate in the early days of dating you're a woman you're 1.00
09:59:13.560 not supposed to be planning dates you're not supposed to be coordinating shit all you're 0.98
09:59:17.420 supposed to do is show up and be yourself that's literally it that's so true i stand by that very 0.99
09:59:21.820 i stand by that too i want to be the princesses blast through blast through next this girl said
09:59:29.120 love is blind is a documentary on why men should be more lonely next she's not wrong
09:59:34.140 have it overnight pay attention to what a man tells you when he is drunk or when he is joking
09:59:42.180 because that is the only time that he believes he can say how he actually feels without any
09:59:46.980 consequences next we'll do like three more if a bald man ever offends you i want you to ask him 0.99
09:59:54.780 when you wash your face how high up do you go damn that's so man-hating that was good 0.98
09:59:59.320 Yeah, man, it's a joke. 0.99
10:00:00.400 Come on.
10:00:01.180 We said jokes tonight, Brian.
10:00:03.480 I know, I know.
10:00:04.060 Sorry, wait, let's do it again.
10:00:05.020 Sorry, I started over my bed.
10:00:05.980 I was distracted.
10:00:08.100 When you feel like a man is rushing you, it is very important that you slow it down because
10:00:12.820 speed is the friend of the manipulator.
10:00:15.200 It gives you enough time to think.
10:00:17.220 Oh, if he gives you enough time to think, you just might figure it out. 1.00
10:00:19.880 Women also do this. 1.00
10:00:21.040 I just want to say, like, when a woman's trying to fuck you right away, she's so manipulative. 1.00
10:00:26.320 Yeah, but you agree that men do that. 1.00
10:00:27.700 She's so manipulative. 1.00
10:00:28.540 you totally don't love it i'm just trying i'm just trying to cuddle and all these women such a liar 0.98
10:00:33.320 i just want to remember he's sleeping with four women i know yeah you told us that i know i know 0.99
10:00:37.840 i'm fucking with you yeah yeah no i get it he was about to get mad again no it's just like look 0.98
10:00:41.500 sometimes i just want to cuddle and like y'all don't you hate no i feel like sometimes you view 0.99
10:00:46.120 us as pieces of meat and i feel objectified a lot of the time i feel like women objectify me 0.95
10:00:52.320 you guys just want to use me for sex you want to use me for my body you want me you want to just 0.99
10:00:57.300 hit it and quit it and some can't we talk why don't we just can't we just chill and hang out 0.99
10:01:02.160 and sometimes i just want to cuddle you don't like to maybe that's all they think you're good
10:01:05.920 for wow maybe that's what you put on the silver platter maybe they didn't think you were good
10:01:09.980 enough to stick around for other reasons used that's what you put on the that's what you put
10:01:14.180 on the cutting board okay next next tiffany next tiffany we're nonsense we got two we'll do two 1.00
10:01:20.160 more and it's wrap oh my god please don't hit me uh women who are intimidatingly pretty all have 0.97
10:01:26.180 one thing in common they have had to consciously make themselves look less attractive in certain 0.96
10:01:31.320 scenarios to avoid jealousy from women and to avoid attention from men for example making sure
10:01:36.260 that your hair is not done when you're at work or wearing makeup because you know that brings eyes 0.89
10:01:40.060 to you and more attention and more people talking shit about you or you purposely wear no makeup 0.98
10:01:45.320 because you know that when fuck i'm sorry it's too fast i do talk it's all right just do the 1.00
10:01:50.220 beginning again women who are intimidatingly pretty are are you intimidatingly pretty i think 1.00
10:01:56.580 to some people i can be that doesn't mean that's for everyone some people are you intimidatingly
10:02:00.800 pretty also to some people yeah to some people yeah to some people to some people yeah you know
10:02:07.140 i've been told yeah a lot of women follow that category yeah a lot more tiffany because men
10:02:13.260 I'm intimidatingly handling.
10:02:17.120 Okay, wait.
10:02:17.880 Let's go.
10:02:18.680 You wrote it.
10:02:19.300 You're so funny.
10:02:21.560 It's too small.
10:02:22.600 I'm sorry.
10:02:23.020 Okay, we'll wrap it up.
10:02:24.740 I'm tired.
10:02:25.100 All right.
10:02:25.780 Well, I want to thank you guys.
10:02:27.220 It was a long stream.
10:02:27.980 I appreciate you guys for making it to the end here.
10:02:30.540 So thank you guys very much for coming.
10:02:32.320 I very much enjoyed this conversation.
10:02:34.840 Are we forgetting anything?
10:02:35.980 I don't really think so.
10:02:36.800 Thanks for having us.
10:02:37.540 I'll do it right before the end, but I'll do it.
10:02:39.700 I want to say GG.
10:02:42.440 Wait, where the?
10:02:43.260 GG
10:02:44.140 Last call, hit the like button please
10:02:47.720 I read them, positivity
10:02:49.420 Like leave comments
10:02:50.480 I read the comments
10:02:51.820 Sorry, I'm tired
10:02:53.100 Leave a comment, I read them, positivity is nice
10:02:56.160 It helps the algorithm
10:02:57.160 Thank you for tuning in tonight
10:02:58.960 Thank you for all the patrons tonight
10:03:00.560 Very much appreciate your support
10:03:01.860 You could have been anywhere in the world
10:03:03.480 But you're here with me
10:03:05.460 I appreciate that
10:03:07.480 Thank you to everyone, like I said, who superchats, donates, and supports the show
10:03:11.400 We're going to be live again
10:03:12.200 I might do a solo stream this week
10:03:13.880 maybe Wednesday we'll see
10:03:15.000 actually there might not be one this week
10:03:17.480 but I'm starting up solo streams and stuff
10:03:20.120 so those are just going to be random
10:03:21.900 the best thing for you guys to do
10:03:23.820 is join the discord
10:03:25.300 turn on notifications
10:03:26.560 but for sure we've got a really good dating talk
10:03:29.620 next Sunday
10:03:30.420 really good dating talk
10:03:31.700 scheduled next Sunday
10:03:32.960 any girls who want to be on the show
10:03:34.260 you can DM at whatever on Instagram 0.98
10:03:35.660 if you can make it to Santa Barbara
10:03:38.020 and as always remember
10:03:39.380 Big Labia Matter
10:03:41.400 what are we forgetting
10:03:43.700 what are we
10:03:45.500 forgetting
10:03:46.260 the hair
10:03:47.380 the hair
10:03:49.220 so we do the thing where we remove our makeup
10:03:52.580 and then you show us your hair
10:03:54.020 I have not done this in a really long time
10:03:57.220 but I'm going to do
10:03:58.120 I'm going to see if I can do a quick twitch rate
10:03:59.840 forget the twitch rate
10:04:02.060 what is it
10:04:02.760 so what do you guys want
10:04:05.140 can I pull it
10:04:06.940 can I yank it
10:04:09.900 it's just interesting because it looks very pink near the hairline so you wonder if it's i have
10:04:15.500 like uh rosacea just give it just give it a little better like that oh yesterday some people
10:04:20.680 said i had a wig too there's no wig guys i swear like it looks natural it's all mine thanks
10:04:25.820 all the wig and toupee allegations have been debunked you need to send me this hair color 0.88
10:04:31.800 like fucking scuffed justin bieber like the hair but like you know justin bieber like not when he 0.78
10:04:39.600 was like super small but like when he was kind of you know yeah i know exactly what you're talking 0.98
10:04:43.500 about you should leave it you look a little more fun yeah now you're giving like you look like you 0.93
10:04:51.020 could have a good time instead of talking shit all day now you look like you actually kind of 0.95
10:04:54.600 listen oh wait that was that was i should have a puka shell necklace and no a leather jacket that 0.99
10:05:03.760 it's not bad sparkles all right cool there it is all right
10:05:10.280 um let me just double check everything's good all right guys oh seven's in the chat oh seven's
10:05:17.220 in the chat good night guys and we will see you next time good night all right guys really quick
10:05:22.340 before you get up before we wrap did anybody lie about their body count no five oh lie about no
10:05:33.760 Okay, good night, guys.