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00:02:13.820 those uh at some point i keep forgetting to wear my blm merch um just uh been evading me

00:02:20.680 we are casting women do you have any bad date stories awful x hot takes or disagreements with

00:02:25.460 me or the show want a chance to share your thoughts and experiences on dating relationships

00:02:29.540 and more dm at whatever on instagram you can uh also support me by putting me in your will

00:02:37.440 and bequeathing some or all of your state to me i accept pokemon cards mansions houses vehicles

00:02:42.860 collectibles rare 90s memorabilia i'm looking for a crown vic police interceptor you know the ones

00:02:50.240 from i'd say that's like the the 2000s and i think they continued them into the 2010s i'm looking for

00:02:58.860 a crown vic police interceptor uh don't ask me why well it doesn't really matter i want one um

00:03:08.040 So if you have one, hook it up.

00:03:11.120 And then thank you to somebody.

00:03:13.900 I don't know if it's fair to say your name, so I'll keep you private.

00:03:16.540 Somebody sent me a, actually took me up on this,

00:03:19.820 and they sent me, I said rare 90s memorabilia or collectibles.

00:03:25.840 They sent me a NES system with the Duck Hunter game.

00:03:31.340 I forgot the name of it.

00:03:32.520 And so it came with the little...

00:03:34.400 And so thank you.

00:03:36.460 he sent me some some cool swag and merch thank you for that appreciate it uh also does anyone

00:03:42.220 have any contacts at tiktok snapchat and or instagram slash meta dm at whatever if you do

00:03:46.820 i'm trying to work some account things out anyways i guess that's 80s somebody in the chat said 80s

00:03:54.380 so duck hunt yeah all right without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves

00:04:01.160 starting with you go ahead okay oh sorry one i apologize didn't mean to cut you off there one

00:04:07.060 last thing uh so guys um panels a little a little light today we were down normally we do like nine

00:04:14.660 people total including myself we only have seven so we're down two uh so you know sometimes that's

00:04:21.560 just the way you know you roll the dice that's the way it goes uh in terms of people flaking and

00:04:27.260 no-showing. So we had essentially what I would consider two no-shows. Sort of two no-shows.

00:04:35.600 Had I not sent them a reminder today, like if I had not tried to get in touch with them,

00:04:41.480 they would have just not messaged us and just no-showed. So it's like a no-show.

00:04:46.520 Tiffany, why don't you pull up that DM I got from them? Here's the reason why they can't make it.

00:04:50.820 I've had them on schedule for 10 days. Hi, sorry, we had a last-minute party in LA to go to.

00:04:57.260 Thanks for the offer.

00:04:58.460 Maybe next time.

00:04:59.180 First off, there was no offer.

00:05:00.500 They reached out to us asking to be on the show.

00:05:05.360 And we had them, like, locked in on schedule since, like, September 18th, I think.

00:05:13.380 So it's about 10 days.

00:05:15.520 So it wasn't just like, hey, you want to come on the show?

00:05:19.340 Like, we're pretty, I think we're pretty formal, I would say, with our invitations.

00:05:26.140 and we're we don't keep it casual like yeah you know if you want to show up just show up it's 0.73

00:05:31.340 very uh you guys can probably uh attest to this like we send fucking probably more reminders than 0.66

00:05:39.040 you would expect but we send like multiple reminders we send you the show info a week 0.81

00:05:43.120 ahead if you have been booked for longer than two weeks we send you a two-week reminder

00:05:47.720 we can we tell you uh or we confirm uh so anyways um very rude of of both of them to just

00:05:55.460 pull that so that's a bit frustrating um and then like leading up to the day uh I overbook

00:06:02.480 so we had a total of like 10 I overbook anticipate so in order to get 10 people to show up

00:06:08.640 or I guess I suppose I should say 9 10 people including me but in order to get

00:06:13.520 9 people to show up you got a book 18 you got a book 20 so we had 10 people like 10 people total

00:06:23.440 over the course of a week, cancel.

00:06:25.980 So, anyways,

00:06:26.960 you have a standing offer at the end of each show.

00:06:31.360 You offer them.

00:06:34.440 Well, yes, we offer people to come on the show,

00:06:39.320 but the way she says, here, pull it back up.

00:06:45.960 The way, thanks for the offer,

00:06:49.420 like they were on schedule,

00:06:51.560 as yesterday they sent this uh this morning so to say thanks for the offer they had already

00:06:58.580 agreed they already accepted the offer so this makes it seem like oh we were dming them two days

00:07:05.340 ago and working out the details and seeing if they would come on and you know what they decided

00:07:09.580 not to do it no they decided to do it and then and you know we had them on his schedule for

00:07:17.040 basically 10 days and then oh have a part we have a party uh so anyways last minute party well it

00:07:23.180 sounds like they're still drunk well i don't know it wasn't yesterday the party they i suppose i

00:07:28.440 believe they have a party today oh geez so they canceled i don't know to go to a party or whatever 0.98

00:07:34.900 well they're prostitutes um so normally the prostitutes are usually pretty reliable 0.80

00:07:42.440 to for the show just to be clear uh but uh sounds like they had a gig it could be 1.00

00:07:50.560 yeah they are indeed whores uh so hoes gonna ho i guess um all right um go ahead and uh 0.96

00:08:00.360 introduce yourself please okay hello my name is alex i'm 27 i'm from ireland um i've been living 0.99

00:08:07.940 in Paris for the past four years, working as a nanny. And I'm just in America for three

00:08:13.760 months, just having an adventure.

00:08:16.100 Tu parles français?

00:08:17.060 Oui.

00:08:17.400 C'est bien ça?

00:08:18.180 Oui.

00:08:19.720 Comment tu dis employer?

00:08:23.680 Like my chef.

00:08:24.800 The chef?

00:08:25.500 Chef?

00:08:26.540 Yeah, your boss.

00:08:27.480 Ah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:29.280 Le patron?

00:08:30.520 Oui.

00:08:30.940 Ton patron, c'est une famille?

00:08:33.140 Oui, oui, like deux familles.

00:08:35.500 And they're okay with you 0.92

00:08:40.020 So you're a nanny

00:08:41.700 But you're taking an extended leave

00:08:43.840 No, I gave up my jobs

00:08:45.440 So I had one job during the week

00:08:47.160 And one job at the weekend

00:08:48.320 And yeah, I decided

00:08:51.000 I need to do something different

00:08:52.560 I need to live a little bit

00:08:53.740 So I always wanted to come to America

00:08:55.880 So yeah, I'm here

00:08:57.380 How much longer are you here for?

00:08:59.440 Another month and a half

00:09:00.540 So yeah, I'm going to be in LA

00:09:02.180 For another like three weeks or something

00:09:03.840 and then I think I will maybe go to New York for the last month.

00:09:08.220 Okay.

00:09:08.860 So you've just been staying with friends or...

00:09:12.860 No, no.

00:09:13.500 Hotels, Airbnbs?

00:09:15.020 Yeah, spending all my savings, basically.

00:09:17.360 So how long have you been here in the U.S.?

00:09:19.160 Like a month and a half, maybe.

00:09:21.020 I think I went to New York, then Charleston, then New Orleans, and San Fran, then here.

00:09:28.060 Okay.

00:09:28.640 Yeah.

00:09:29.020 And why did you give up on the whatever, whatever?

00:09:34.320 On the whatever-whatever? 0.81

00:09:35.660 The nanny job? 0.72

00:09:36.200 The nanny job, yeah.

00:09:37.420 Oh, well, it was always meant to be a temporary thing,

00:09:40.280 and I got some really good jobs,

00:09:41.940 so it made sense for me at the time to keep going with them.

00:09:45.440 But, you know, it's just not fulfilling long-term,

00:09:47.900 so I have to move on.

00:09:50.240 Any college?

00:09:51.900 I did study early childhood care when I first moved to Paris,

00:09:55.140 so I have a diploma in that.

00:09:56.760 And I have different diplomas around fashion,

00:09:59.120 trend forecasting, styling, things of that nature.

00:10:01.340 Yeah. And what have you been doing in L.A. for the past month and a half?

00:10:08.060 Living life, exploring, seeing new things. I mean, like for me, going to Trader Joe's is fun.

00:10:13.200 You know, new supermarket even, or Air One especially. So yeah, just hanging out, doing

00:10:19.440 whatever, hanging by the pool, going shopping, exploring. Is it your first time in the States?

00:10:26.480 I was in New York for a few days last year. But other than that, yes.

00:10:30.320 Okay, so you've been to the United States one other time.

00:10:33.120 Yes.

00:10:33.460 But very short in New York.

00:10:35.140 Mm-hmm.

00:10:35.360 Okay.

00:10:36.280 All right.

00:10:36.780 What about you?

00:10:37.480 Thank you.

00:10:38.620 I'm Pepper.

00:10:39.740 I'm 54.

00:10:40.880 I'm from the Bay Area.

00:10:43.860 Your name's Pepper?

00:10:45.180 Pepper.

00:10:45.920 Pepper.

00:10:46.580 Pepper.

00:10:47.120 P-E-P-P-E-R. 0.88

00:10:48.860 Mm-hmm.

00:10:49.120 Pepper.

00:10:49.620 That's my, yeah.

00:10:51.220 Okay, you're from the Bay Area.

00:10:53.620 Yes, I am.

00:10:54.460 Where are you from before the Bay Area?

00:10:56.300 Well, I was born in Russia.

00:10:58.180 Okay.

00:10:58.800 Where?

00:10:59.080 Russia, Russia. Some peripheral city. Stalingrad. No. The city is called Samara. I'm sure you don't know.

00:11:09.120 Somewhere? Samara. Oh, I thought you said the city is called somewhere.

00:11:13.560 Somewhere. Yeah. Samara? Samara. Okay. And when did you move to the United States?

00:11:19.860 In 2000. Okay. What do you do for work?

00:11:22.940 Okay. I have a master's degree in mathematics. I specialized in computer science. Afterwards, I worked for 10 years as a software engineer. Then I chose to be an entrepreneur. So, I opened a toy manufacturing company.

00:11:44.660 we had um for a couple of years we had a best-selling science toy um then i stepped down

00:11:54.060 from toy manufacturing and i became canvas entrepreneur which i've done for another eight

00:12:00.580 years gotcha so and i stepped down also because my mother's health deteriorated and now i'm a

00:12:07.120 caregiver so i had to step down you said something uh so you got your master's in mathematics correct

00:12:13.180 That was in Russia, is that correct?

00:12:15.740 Correct, yes.

00:12:16.800 And you said you did something, you were a software engineer,

00:12:20.460 but in between that and the master's in mathematics, it was what?

00:12:24.480 You said science, something science-related?

00:12:27.080 No, I said I specialized in computer science.

00:12:30.400 Computer science, okay.

00:12:31.500 Yes, computer science.

00:12:32.520 Okay, got it.

00:12:33.900 Yeah, naturally I moved to be a computer engineer, like software engineer.

00:12:37.820 I see, okay.

00:12:38.540 And, all right, move to the United States.

00:12:43.840 Do you have citizenship?

00:12:46.620 Yes, I do.

00:12:47.600 Green card or citizenship?

00:12:48.960 Citizenship.

00:12:51.640 Naturalized?

00:12:54.020 Citizenship.

00:12:54.960 What do you mean naturalized?

00:12:55.960 Well, like how did, I guess, did you get it through marriage?

00:12:59.360 Did you get your citizenship through the naturalization process?

00:13:02.840 All right. So I came here as H-1B worker. And my husband did too. So I came here with my husband. Both of us got H-1B visas. This was during software boom. You know, in the United States, in the Bay Area, there was lack of software engineers.

00:13:23.740 Yes.

00:13:24.020 We had experience and we got invited by our companies. We got invited.

00:13:32.100 Can I just have you straight in the mic so it's...

00:13:34.200 Sure.

00:13:34.920 There you go.

00:13:35.300 Like this?

00:13:35.500 Continue.

00:13:36.000 Okay.

00:13:36.380 So we got invited by our respective companies, and we've got H-1B visas.

00:13:42.980 Okay.

00:13:43.360 Gotcha.

00:13:43.840 And then from there, I guess what's the process to becoming a citizen?

00:13:49.120 You just stay here and then can apply?

00:13:51.840 So let me just stick something into the timeline.

00:13:56.320 Sure.

00:13:56.800 Okay.

00:13:57.160 um so when i graduated university after that uh my husband and i we moved to israel

00:14:05.700 so we're jewish we moved to israel and we lived in israel for seven years okay and then over there

00:14:12.600 we worked as software engineers and we were hired by american companies to come over here

00:14:18.400 okay so uh the process is the following uh the company that you come with your h1b visa can

00:14:29.200 sponsor you to get a citizenship they can they don't have to unless you want to so at the

00:14:35.800 beginning we did not plan to stay in the united states it wasn't the plan at all we just wanted

00:14:40.180 to work here temporarily so and then being here a number of years sort of it grew on me

00:14:48.180 and we decided to have our company submit for citizenship.

00:14:54.580 So my husband got his green card within, I believe, three years,

00:14:59.100 and for me it took five years because FBI was checking me

00:15:03.500 whether I was Mossad or KGB.

00:15:05.620 They were not sure, and at the end they gave me an okay.

00:15:09.480 can you say the company that hired you originally company that hired me originally

00:15:22.660 yeah the one you said you moved you came here on h1b uh the company name was healings

00:15:28.760 are they still around no no they're not 2000s right yeah yeah you came here in 2000 yes so

00:15:36.820 Before 9-11.

00:15:39.880 Before 9-11.

00:15:40.560 Before 9-11, mm-hmm.

00:15:42.700 But there was the bubble burst, the tech, the dot-com?

00:15:47.040 Yeah, a couple of years later.

00:15:48.060 Was that in the late 90s, or that was the...

00:15:50.140 It was a couple of years later.

00:15:52.640 I think it was 2002, 2003.

00:15:55.880 Okay, so you got here right before the dot-com bubble burst.

00:15:59.540 Yeah, true.

00:16:01.360 Okay, and I'll come back to that.

00:16:04.680 What about you?

00:16:05.640 My name is Heather.

00:16:06.820 I'm originally from Columbus, Ohio. I'm a graduate of The Ohio State University.

00:16:12.600 Most people know me from the wild and crazy reality era, early 2000s, Rock of Love with

00:16:18.940 Bret Michaels, Charm School, Sharon Osbourne. I love money. Yes, I was the crazy, wild maniac on

00:16:25.420 there. And now I'm a co-producer of the reality TV queens on the reality TV legend streaming network.

00:16:32.820 and I'm also a dual licensed real estate agent

00:16:35.180 in the state of California and in the state of Ohio.

00:16:37.540 Got it. Age?

00:16:40.100 Oh, of age.

00:16:42.740 I'm of age.

00:16:43.660 What is your age?

00:16:44.720 Of age.

00:16:46.100 Well, duh, but what is your age?

00:16:49.240 Of.

00:16:50.380 Of.

00:16:51.020 Age.

00:16:51.700 That's not an age.

00:16:53.180 That is a range of age looking for the definitive age.

00:16:58.360 Hmm.

00:16:59.900 Middle age?

00:17:01.560 Middle age.

00:17:02.320 Yes.

00:17:02.820 okay um why don't you just you know just 51 you're 51 yeah uh and you were on now this is a show i

00:17:11.360 i watched many years ago did you uh the the rock of love with brett michaels i think i maybe watched

00:17:17.200 uh the first they're like you said three there's three seasons yeah i think i watched the first

00:17:23.660 and second a little bit it was it was quite a while ago though yeah and so you were we were

00:17:29.500 the trailblazers did you and your name is heather yes did you go as heather on the show because

00:17:34.480 sometimes people use stage names you know no i didn't actually i went by my own name and i was

00:17:39.600 the one that got like the brett tattoo and okay so you went by heather on the yeah you have a brett

00:17:44.980 michaels tattoo i got it done on the show i don't have it anymore you removed well i kept it for

00:17:50.880 seven years because everybody wanted to take photos with it right okay and then i had a boyfriend who

00:17:55.240 hated it so i i ended up getting across over it like please god don't let me do this again

00:17:59.420 but it was weird because i had no tattoos or anything at 31 when i entered reality television

00:18:05.800 so that was my first tattoo on air fueled with gray goose so what was it just a picture of his

00:18:13.700 face or it was his name oh brett yeah so don't you remember that episode no i don't remember

00:18:19.580 anything from the show but i do remember watching it yeah i was on all three seasons they brought

00:18:24.600 me back every season to just turn the house upside down they they would uh bring in new people too

00:18:30.260 right yes they would bring in some repeats too yeah and then like the the kind of the breakout

00:18:36.580 starts from the first season they would bring in to like stir it all up and get everybody drunk but

00:18:41.380 that was back in my drinking days now I'm sober wait so okay you um now you know these uh there's

00:18:48.720 What was that one with Flavor Flav?

00:18:51.540 Oh, yes.

00:18:52.520 Did you try out for that one?

00:18:53.860 No, I didn't.

00:18:55.000 No.

00:18:56.060 Actually, they contacted me about this.

00:18:58.560 I went on the Surreal Life fame games in Las Vegas, and I was just rip-roaring drunk, and I turned the house upside down.

00:19:05.420 And then two months later, they contacted me on MySpace and said, you are great on the show.

00:19:10.560 We have a show we think you'd be awesome for.

00:19:13.780 It's a dating show if you're single, and it's with an 80s rocker.

00:19:16.480 and um at that time it was like super party girl era so i was like let's do it and uh did you um

00:19:25.540 yo in the chat can you tell me type if you remember watching rock of love the brett

00:19:32.700 michaels dating show is vh1 right yeah it was vh1 vh1 and then do you remember

00:19:37.860 heather yes they're gonna if they watch it they're gonna remember me now are there clips

00:19:43.660 of you on the i don't know if we get like a we might get a copyright for that there's clips of

00:19:48.300 you like on the show back well here's the issue that i'm having now because when we filmed it

00:19:55.540 it was there was only myspace so there was no streaming there was no anything and so

00:20:00.000 it was just vh1 so they said you know you can curse go do whatever we have to block everything

00:20:06.560 out we have to censor everything but now they're selling it to streaming like uncensored and i did

00:20:12.280 not um oh i did not i did not give them what where's it streaming everywhere and it's like i

00:20:20.520 did not give the authority to use my boobs everywhere and and when you get to the second

00:20:26.980 third season like we're talking like full frontal and everything and so like it's um i don't know

00:20:31.780 what's going on but uh we did not are you like suing the production or something is that

00:20:36.960 you know i don't know i have a book i have a book coming out that i'm working on right now

00:20:44.700 it's hell all and it will be released uh the 20th anniversary of rock of love in 2027 unless

00:20:51.360 when did rock of love come out march 2027 or march 20 oh march 2007 so if my rights get bought

00:20:58.980 before then i'm okay with that but if not like there's a lot of things that happened on that

00:21:04.100 and for it to be just to revamp somebody's career, allegedly.

00:21:09.480 Yeah.

00:21:10.480 Private chat, Tiffany.

00:21:11.440 We found a photo of you from around the era.

00:21:14.180 Okay.

00:21:14.380 Because I was asking the chat if they recognize you from the show.

00:21:18.220 Yes.

00:21:18.760 Rock of Love with Bret Michaels, who was the lead singer of Poison.

00:21:23.360 Yes.

00:21:23.920 What's their big hit, the single?

00:21:26.240 Oh, Look What the Cat Dragged In or The Party one.

00:21:31.820 Poison. 1.00

00:21:32.700 Unskinny Boss.

00:21:33.580 I'm Skinny Bob, Every Rose Has Its Thorn.

00:21:36.120 Oh, yeah.

00:21:36.660 Okay, there we go.

00:21:38.360 Every Rose Has Its Thorn.

00:21:40.320 Okay, that's poison.

00:21:41.660 Yeah.

00:21:42.200 All right, go ahead. 1.00

00:21:42.840 Pull it up, Tiffany.

00:21:43.520 This is a photo view around the era, 2010, a bit after.

00:21:47.220 Okay.

00:21:47.800 We got it?

00:21:48.140 Let's see.

00:21:49.800 Yeah, that was at a red carpet event in Hollywood.

00:21:51.680 So when the show hit number one, I headed over to Hollywood,

00:21:55.700 and then I started doing a bunch of other shows after that,

00:21:59.440 and then some movies and sitcoms and game shows.

00:22:02.500 I just wrote it out.

00:22:03.580 as long as i could until i about keeled over so uh did you um you and brett have a little 0.62

00:22:11.520 romance we had a little bit of romance but not show though not all i never had sexual intercourse

00:22:17.420 with him i know that people don't believe that but i did not and i have not wait on the show did

00:22:22.660 he have sexual intercourse with any of the women yes besides you no it wasn't me i should have

00:22:30.040 Because nobody believes me anyways, right? 0.98

00:22:32.280 So there was some messing around.

00:22:34.520 Because I could have sworn he, again, my memory is super blurry. 0.94

00:22:39.140 I'm pretty sure he had sex with some women on the show. 0.91

00:22:41.720 And then as the seasons progressed, I feel like some of the women were a little bit more promiscuous. 0.95

00:22:47.720 So they were really getting down. 1.00

00:22:49.280 Okay.

00:22:49.960 Allegedly.

00:22:51.020 So that show is Eliminations?

00:22:54.500 Yes.

00:22:55.220 How far did you make it?

00:22:56.520 All the way to the end.

00:22:57.800 So you got, were you the winner?

00:22:59.600 No, I was the runner-up because I was about it.

00:23:02.560 Like, I was about it.

00:23:04.000 So, and I said, well, we should just, and I was told I was going to win, you know.

00:23:08.420 And I said, well, we should just, you know, do a spinoff show, take it on the road, on a bus, this and that.

00:23:13.220 But then that didn't happen, and then they did the bus show anyways.

00:23:16.640 But if we, if he would have chose me, like, that would have been it.

00:23:20.800 We would have been doing something else.

00:23:21.940 So there wouldn't have been season two and three.

00:23:23.720 So business-wise, on all their part, it makes sense.

00:23:26.700 To me, I'm like, it didn't.

00:23:28.500 i mean it did but it didn't i think that era was kind of peak reality tv show it was so

00:23:37.020 unpolished and super like balls to the wall anything goes like you're on your own like

00:23:44.260 no health you know no hospital visits like if you're gonna die of alcoholism you're gonna just

00:23:51.520 die right there nice there's a couple girls i had to save you know from alcohol poisoning and uh

00:23:56.520 yeah it was i don't think people could handle it these days did you guys get paid for for that 0.98

00:24:01.380 hundred dollars an episode and how many episodes like 10 so some girls got there and they had 0.57

00:24:07.540 flown in from like chicago or wherever and then they didn't get in the house they're like pop up 1.00

00:24:11.160 up bye so they got nothing i know maybe the per diem at the hotel for a few days and some food

00:24:16.300 but i was there the whole 30 days but the real money comes afterwards when they would do the

00:24:21.560 guest appearances and celebrity appearances so you'd be booked thursday friday a saturday

00:24:25.460 but then I'm just like partying and partying and um yeah but it was I feel like it was just

00:24:33.280 crazy trailblazing and kind of set the bar for some of the the hardcore um reality tv shows

00:24:41.980 these days like Housewives and I think Jersey Shore I think they were either right before us

00:24:47.020 or right after us the girls next door they're around the same time too so we had some fun at

00:24:51.780 the playboy mansion so yeah that was like the era and uh really quick before and then i'll have to

00:25:00.820 move it on but what was the uh casting process were there was there a casting call like you had

00:25:06.820 to do repeated castings or i didn't because i was an extra on the surreal life okay so but for like

00:25:13.900 i guess the other people um yeah they actually went to chicago they definitely were honing in

00:25:19.020 on Las Vegas because the rock

00:25:21.020 stars like entertainers. 0.99

00:25:23.020 Most of their baby mamas are entertainers 1.00

00:25:25.240 that they don't like to talk about, whatever. 0.98

00:25:27.460 So they definitely were

00:25:29.300 casting all three seasons

00:25:31.260 in Las Vegas heavy, but then also

00:25:33.240 I think they cast in Chicago

00:25:35.340 and maybe Myrtle Beach

00:25:37.080 or whatnot.

00:25:38.520 Do they even still do shows like that?

00:25:43.940 I don't know that

00:25:45.280 people would be able

00:25:47.260 i don't know people are soft these days so you know if you get a plate thrown at you or if you

00:25:53.140 get into a scuffle somebody might see you these days then it's just like it's okay you know we

00:25:58.600 were going hard but then you watch i watch back i watch back now and i'm just i'm so glad i don't

00:26:03.820 drink anymore because all right uh okay what about you uh my name is elissa i am 59 i'm from los

00:26:12.320 Angeles, and I am actually a student right now. Okay. Studying what? Studying clinical psychology.

00:26:20.140 And you're getting your... Master's. So you have your undergrad. Yeah, I went back to school at

00:26:26.700 57. So you just got your bachelor's degree. I finished it in June, yeah. So wait, okay, 59,

00:26:33.520 and you're working on your master's. When will you finish your master's program? Hopefully two years.

00:26:37.700 In two years. So it's 61. Okay. Really quick, going back to you, education, any college or

00:26:43.100 anything like that? Yeah, I actually went to Case Western Reserve University for pre-med. It was a

00:26:48.340 biology pre-med. And then I shot for Playboy for the college girls edition and they kind of like

00:26:53.060 shunned me. So I transferred to Ohio State where I got a BA in communications. So then I moved in

00:26:58.200 2002 right after graduation. And now I live in Newport Beach, California. Got it. Going back to

00:27:03.600 you uh okay uh what do you do for work just student uh student uh yeah I'm not really

00:27:09.060 working much now okay at the moment yeah got it okay I'm gonna come back to the master's thing

00:27:14.920 uh actually no let me just do it now master's so when do people typically retire so so I'm

00:27:24.880 an interior designer okay that's my that's my background from UCLA I went to UCLA so oh so

00:27:30.600 Do you have an interior background degree?

00:27:33.900 Yes, interior design, yeah.

00:27:35.900 Interior design, and then you did that.

00:27:38.560 And then I was married, and I was busy with my children for a long time,

00:27:43.280 and then I got divorced in 2020.

00:27:46.940 Divorced in 2020?

00:27:48.040 Mm-hmm.

00:27:48.320 Okay, and you have kids?

00:27:49.560 I do have.

00:27:49.880 How many kids?

00:27:50.340 I have three.

00:27:51.060 From the guy you divorced?

00:27:52.540 I was married twice.

00:27:53.700 Okay, two different fathers?

00:27:55.320 Mm-hmm.

00:27:55.500 Okay.

00:27:56.580 Got divorced in 2020, and now you're back in school?

00:27:59.800 Yes.

00:28:00.600 And then, so I guess once you get your master's degree, what is your plan?

00:28:04.300 To become a therapist, to work with grief and trauma.

00:28:08.860 And men's mental health is probably going to be my niche. 0.79

00:28:12.560 Men's mental health, okay.

00:28:13.940 Yeah, and spiritual intimacy.

00:28:16.120 Spiritual intimacy? Wow.

00:28:19.180 What?

00:28:20.200 What is that?

00:28:22.040 You know, helping men become more self-aware.

00:28:26.940 Of what?

00:28:27.960 Of their selves.

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00:28:58.120 a standard mission date rates may apply that's kind of a bit vague but self-aware you know

00:29:04.120 self-awareness but what do you mean by spiritual intimacy what does that mean knowing themselves

00:29:09.360 and understanding their emotions um understanding how uh that will work in a in a relationship with

00:29:16.520 a woman that that type of thing but is that necessarily related to the spirit yeah it's

00:29:25.060 Spiritual intimacy.

00:29:26.380 Spiritual intimacy.

00:29:27.220 You know, when you have a relationship with somebody, yeah, intimacy, it's not just about sex, but on a spiritual level.

00:29:35.360 Yeah.

00:29:36.200 What is spiritual?

00:29:38.180 What do we mean when we say spiritual?

00:29:39.780 I don't mean God.

00:29:42.300 Yeah, so what do we mean when we say spiritual?

00:29:44.560 Just when you have a spiritual person, self-aware, self-awareness, knowing themselves, understanding

00:29:54.600 how they feel, understanding why they react the way they do, that type of thing.

00:30:00.000 Is this a spiritual thing, though?

00:30:01.780 Yeah, it can be, yeah.

00:30:04.980 I'm not fully understanding the tie to spiritualism.

00:30:10.640 So spiritual intimacy.

00:30:12.760 Mm-hmm.

00:30:13.500 What separates spiritual intimacy from other forms of intimacy?

00:30:17.240 So it's being intimacy with somebody on more an emotional, spiritual level.

00:30:21.380 Well, okay, emotional, but what's the differentiation between spiritual and emotional?

00:30:26.820 What's the difference?

00:30:28.080 Spiritual and emotional?

00:30:29.360 Well, you said, okay, what spiritual, what does that mean?

00:30:34.560 It's kind of, it's sort of hard to explain.

00:30:36.580 It's more of a feeling.

00:30:38.140 It's just a feeling.

00:30:39.320 It's a feeling.

00:30:40.460 It's hard.

00:30:41.320 It's really, it's sort of like.

00:30:43.120 Wait, wait, wait, but I don't understand.

00:30:44.840 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:30:46.000 So if you're going to be a licensed therapist,

00:30:48.760 I would hope that you would be able to articulate

00:30:51.900 exactly what you're going to be charging your clients for

00:30:54.660 beyond just vibes, bro, just feelings, bro.

00:30:57.700 I will, I will.

00:30:58.200 No, no, no, but so when you say spiritual intimacy,

00:31:01.300 what does that mean?

00:31:02.580 So that's something that I'm interested in,

00:31:04.180 and then I'm...

00:31:05.260 Whether you're interested or not interested in it

00:31:07.700 is frankly irrelevant.

00:31:09.380 What does it mean?

00:31:10.680 Well, I'm actually exploring that right now as I'm going through school.

00:31:15.280 Okay, so you're...

00:31:15.960 I'm exploring all that.

00:31:17.020 Okay.

00:31:17.360 And it's very interesting to me.

00:31:19.680 So it's something that I want to kind of partake and hopefully maybe bring that into a practice that I'm going to be...

00:31:26.340 Spiritual intimacy.

00:31:27.940 Yeah.

00:31:29.100 I don't have a good answer on what that is, but...

00:31:32.040 Well, I can't tell you exactly what that looks like right now.

00:31:34.440 I can't.

00:31:35.380 I wish I could, but I can't.

00:31:37.140 Like, I'm a college dropout.

00:31:38.760 you and me have the same understanding of spiritual intimacy at this point

00:31:42.640 but you're currently in college getting a master's degree right

00:31:46.380 in clinical psychology but you said one of the things you're going to do

00:31:50.700 through the use of your clinical psychology degree or whatever

00:31:54.880 that's what I want to do yes but what

00:31:58.220 okay I mean I don't know if I'm going to get an answer on the spiritual intimacy

00:32:02.660 thing okay so

00:32:05.700 So how long are you going to do the work thing?

00:32:13.020 My master, how long do I plan on working in my life?

00:32:17.200 Is that what you're asking?

00:32:18.340 I guess.

00:32:20.520 Just indefinitely, I guess.

00:32:22.060 Yeah, pretty much.

00:32:22.560 Because most people, I guess, retire at 65,

00:32:24.620 although, of course, people certainly work beyond 65.

00:32:28.160 Retirement doesn't sound appealing to me, actually.

00:32:30.960 I think I'm going to try to help as many people as I can

00:32:33.720 until I can't anymore.

00:32:35.700 um and are you is this a public university or private university private private okay and do

00:32:42.500 you have scholarship or are you just paying for it scholarship you have scholarships just fafsa

00:32:46.660 right now yeah because there's a big beautiful bill how much is your tuition uh what the full

00:32:54.320 on full tuition for the whole program you just got your undergrad a new undergrad degree right

00:32:59.660 and now you're working on your master's how much was the undergrad um rough well see i already had

00:33:05.500 more than half of the credits, because I've been to three different, yeah, so we put them all

00:33:11.240 together, and so I only had to go two years. Okay, two years, but how much did the two years?

00:33:16.040 About 30, 35,000. 35,000, yeah. And then how much is the master's program going to be?

00:33:21.140 90. 90, yeah, it's about 90. Well, 90 plus the 30, you said? 30, 35, I believe. Okay, so 120,

00:33:30.220 125 thousand dollars yeah of and and this is student loan most of it not all of it yeah

00:33:39.580 it's you're taking on 125 thousand dollars of debt at six uh at 59

00:33:46.740 yeah um to work to work for myself but i mean are you gonna work to have my own

00:34:00.160 So maybe you work, what, 10 years?

00:34:02.060 You work until 70?

00:34:04.120 Maybe.

00:34:04.940 I mean, I have professors that are in their late 70s that just are getting their PhDs.

00:34:10.240 So it's really never too late to educate yourself.

00:34:13.760 Where are you getting the money from?

00:34:15.640 Just your, is it, not your, you're not paying it with savings.

00:34:19.960 You said you're getting student loans?

00:34:21.820 Right.

00:34:22.480 Yeah.

00:34:23.080 But I'm actually not able to get the loans that I had planned on.

00:34:27.600 So I'm going part-time right now because there's something called the big, beautiful bill that you guys probably know about.

00:34:33.500 So it cut all of the, like, graduate plus loans for the students.

00:34:38.080 What do you mean cut them?

00:34:40.080 Trump cut.

00:34:41.140 It's cut.

00:34:42.000 They're gone.

00:34:42.980 They're not available anymore.

00:34:45.080 And I couldn't get grandfathered in.

00:34:47.340 Yeah.

00:34:47.940 Because I was one semester behind the cutoff.

00:34:51.420 So, okay.

00:34:52.140 Yeah, so unfortunately.

00:34:53.260 So you're paying even more then.

00:34:55.100 Well, it'll just take me.

00:34:56.380 It might take me a little bit longer.

00:34:57.600 yeah why not just scoop ice cream I don't know all that money I like why not I feel like it

00:35:08.640 I don't know I mean you're the student loan debt that oh boy um but that's my plan and if

00:35:17.980 and then what would be your likely income yearly income once you get your and then wait after your

00:35:23.480 master's? Do you have to do further schooling? No, you have to do some, well, while you're in

00:35:27.880 school and a little bit after clinical hours. It's okay. You're 59. You have two more years

00:35:33.660 of your master's program. Can you start working at 61? I can work. You have to take a test to get

00:35:43.800 your, your license. This makes you get it, you know, I'm not sure. Look, Hey, look, people can

00:35:49.080 do whatever they want sort of i guess not really but um this is this is what is so honestly not

00:35:56.820 what you're doing necessarily i don't think it's wrong for somebody to want education but the

00:36:01.340 people that that green light like how and and they want to like the the democrats want to grant

00:36:09.880 um student loan forgiveness no offense to you i think it's like somewhat fiscally irresponsible

00:36:17.880 for a 59 year old to take on $125,000, $130,000 in student loan debt, like irresponsible to on

00:36:27.280 your part, but also irresponsible on the part of the lender. Like how the fuck are you going to 0.99

00:36:34.180 get your money back? Unless you're going to lift it a hundred, you're going to work till 90. 0.99

00:36:42.240 what the fuck sorry i spit a little bit there but um the lender is not gonna get this is why 0.97

00:36:49.840 no and it's really i mean you're kind of an outlier here this is why the education system 0.99

00:36:54.320 is completely fucked and like it's so expensive to go to school the lenders give the money to 0.58

00:36:59.060 anybody and it's like how are they gonna get the money back i don't know anyways whatever i don't 0.99

00:37:07.140 know nobody has any thoughts on that i do oh okay you want me i can talk i can say something yes

00:37:13.180 go ahead um honestly i feel like in today's society how things are with social media i

00:37:20.040 think that she can make over 100k in a year i think it's doable because just because you don't

00:37:25.060 understand what she does i really don't understand what she does so i personally would tune the hell

00:37:29.400 in if she tune in yeah on youtube like let's just say if somebody gives the consent to do a session

00:37:35.200 live and they're trying to learn about their

00:37:36.900 spirituality, sexuality

00:37:39.420 whatever it is that she's going to do

00:37:41.060 I would tune in because I don't know 1.00

00:37:43.120 what the hell is going on and you know she could become 0.98

00:37:45.280 this big person, you remember Talk Sex 0.99

00:37:47.260 with Susan, you remember that

00:37:48.580 I was probably too young to be watching it but I was

00:37:51.080 tuned in so I think she could do it

00:37:53.280 She wants to be a 1.00

00:37:55.080 private counselor 0.99

00:37:57.300 or whatever, I think she could do it

00:37:58.880 She's not trying to be a content creator to my understanding

00:38:01.160 But she might, she's still learning

00:38:02.760 It's not content but I have plans

00:38:05.160 of being a little bit bigger than I you know I I have plans look I do it's not I'm not thinking

00:38:12.320 small I'm thinking kind of pretty big I have no that's nice no seriously I have a niche and

00:38:19.120 listen lots of people believe in me and that's I'm good with that don't you believe in yourself

00:38:23.780 oh I do I you want to spend the last years of your life listening to people complain no I want

00:38:31.140 to help people I do I mean therapy is basically listening to other people complain about their

00:38:36.360 problems and certainly you look I guess you can help people through therapy but I don't know

00:38:42.520 it's just maybe I'm a I'm a doomer also by the way AI is gonna gigafuck like everyone um like

00:38:52.520 I don't know what like why would it got wouldn't it couldn't a guy just like hey chat GPT um

00:39:00.900 teach me spiritual intimacy blah blah blah they know they could i mean everybody's doing

00:39:06.300 that right now and there's apps and all that but but like but there are a lot of people

00:39:10.180 $30,000 of debt at 59. There are a lot of people that want a human they want a human

00:39:15.240 they need wine everybody every guy there's a lot there's a lot of people out there don't even like

00:39:19.800 therapy though that they need it because they don't understand what they need and they definitely 0.80

00:39:24.100 honestly like they don't want it from a woman oh we don't want therapy like well okay even if the 1.00

00:39:32.980 guy is naive even if a man is naive enough stupid enough to go get therapy from a woman uh most of 0.99

00:39:39.580 them probably ought to if they're even inclined to go to therapy which most most of it is a scam 1.00

00:39:45.240 uh they're probably should go to a man i i think most guys who are inclined to go to therapy will

00:39:51.600 be like i guess i'll see a chick but if i was going to go to therapy which no thank you i would

00:39:58.620 go to a dude so i feel i don't know i don't know i don't know i feel like these days men especially

00:40:06.600 like people in your scenario and stuff um clavicular need like an og woman finance like

00:40:14.140 not finance like just an advisor to like you know watch out for the chicks is what they need 0.87

00:40:19.140 yeah yeah there's just too much of this and not enough um no first off the guy first off by the

00:40:28.160 way don't ever fucking compare me to clavicular no no no i'm saying i'm not we are completely

00:40:33.660 indifferent no you have great audiences both of you have very very large i don't even want to be 0.93

00:40:37.620 in the same sentence okay i don't know aim but i'm just saying that you guys are both really large

00:40:43.360 online and everybody knows you guys so i think that people in your guys's situations and positions

00:40:50.100 it would be beneficial maybe so you have an awesome female assistant over there she doesn't

00:40:55.440 give me therapy maybe maybe she doesn't give me therapy in her own way yeah she's she's very nice 0.88

00:41:00.960 and easygoing no actually actually i got to see a therapist because of no i don't believe that

00:41:07.760 i do not believe that secretly i've actually been in therapy oh my god the girl who works

00:41:12.960 for me it's just it's like oh she stresses me out no i'm just kidding no way yeah so actually

00:41:18.820 it's completely contradictory but um just kidding we love tiffany we love tiffany but um that's what 0.69

00:41:26.520 i'm getting at just like a solid the introverted korean woman is that she's giving me therapy

00:41:32.520 well i'm not saying she's giving you therapy but she's she came out and she was very professional 0.99

00:41:38.780 like when you were doing other things she came in and handled things with the women right what

00:41:44.180 would that have to do with therapy oh i didn't say therapy i said an advisor yeah there's you know

00:41:49.160 when i go to a restaurant the the hostess is also very um accommodating and hospitable yeah maybe i

00:41:57.300 should i should go to denny's and go hit up the the hostess for a little therapy you're on a

00:42:04.240 different red lobster you're on a different level lobster maybe i could check out waffle house

00:42:09.080 waffle where are their hostesses you are way above all of that uh not denny's chili's there's often

00:42:16.120 a hostess hostesses just see people they don't they're they're not they don't have 30 years or 1.00

00:42:21.500 40 years of life experience that could maybe help out i'm not not to be a massive jerk and asshole 1.00

00:42:29.340 and crush your dreams or whatever. 1.00

00:42:32.300 That's okay, you're not.

00:42:33.820 I just...

00:42:35.660 Don't get it.

00:42:36.620 College, master's degree.

00:42:38.780 You'll be done with your master's at 61.

00:42:42.920 Just go on a beach somewhere and enjoy life.

00:42:46.180 You've got bills to pay.

00:42:47.220 Well, if I come across a wealthy man

00:42:50.000 that wants to take me away like that,

00:42:51.880 maybe that will happen.

00:42:53.000 But I have to take care of myself. 1.00

00:42:55.420 I'm not going to pay that woman. 1.00

00:42:56.080 You've got $130.

00:42:56.760 But you understand, this is a stillborn business model, the one that you just represented.

00:43:03.100 It's stillborn.

00:43:03.900 She said stillborn.

00:43:04.260 I don't want to, you know, poop on your parade.

00:43:07.260 Oh, no, that's okay.

00:43:08.400 I know what I'm doing.

00:43:08.800 But it is a stillborn business model.

00:43:10.160 What does that mean?

00:43:11.140 Because it's not good.

00:43:12.280 Before it's born, it's not going to work, the one that she proposed.

00:43:16.840 Because of AI or?

00:43:18.020 No, not because of AI.

00:43:19.140 Because first of all, you have to know whether men want to go and do what she proposes.

00:43:24.780 This is really something like really obscure that nobody can define.

00:43:31.660 She can define it herself.

00:43:34.380 She goes into college instead of investing money, for example, into real estate or buying something that she can actually make money with.

00:43:41.420 She spends money on, quote, unquote, education that's nowhere to apply.

00:43:46.800 You can't apply it.

00:43:48.160 It's just because I want it, it doesn't mean that people will want it.

00:43:53.380 if i like it it doesn't mean that people will come to me to my practice it just doesn't work

00:44:00.260 this way correct correct i know i know she knows i know it is correct hey can we get her one of the

00:44:08.660 little russia hats do you want to wear one of the russia hats no i got like one no no no okay um

00:44:16.400 But I'm not trying to be a dream crusher.

00:44:20.040 I don't know.

00:44:21.220 $130,000 in student loan debt.

00:44:25.660 Anyways, whatever.

00:44:27.780 So it's fair to say you won't be hiring her for any services.

00:44:33.240 Is that where we're at?

00:44:34.640 No, but that would apply basically to any therapist.

00:44:37.620 Nobody.

00:44:38.180 That would apply to any therapist.

00:44:40.400 I have dozens of friends right now who are in my age group,

00:44:44.160 and they're all becoming therapists.

00:44:45.740 and they're all actually doing well.

00:44:48.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:44:49.020 How can they simultaneously becoming therapists

00:44:53.200 and be doing, if they're not yet therapists?

00:44:55.460 I'm going to school.

00:44:56.720 I've been going to school with a few people.

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00:45:32.000 yes uh-huh and yes there's a lot i know there's a big group of people that are in my age group yeah

00:45:38.100 so um it's not impossible they're all making it happen um look i don't know you know i've done a

00:45:45.020 I've done a lot of things in my life that are really, really interesting and probably very far-fetched, but I've done them.

00:45:50.740 Look, as a financial advisor, I'm not a financial advisor.

00:45:57.660 I would tell someone, first off, I would tell an 18-year-old, which would arguably be the best time for them to go to college.

00:46:09.440 I would tell them it's ill-advised to take on $130,000 of student loan debt.

00:46:15.020 You, on the other hand, I mean, you'll be 61 by the time you finish your master's.

00:46:19.820 The reason why I'm mentioning the age component is your runway to, what's the right word, to exploit your education to generate money, your runway is limited.

00:46:35.260 Right.

00:46:35.440 in the sense like okay somebody's 18 and they finish college at 25 or even younger they have

00:46:41.020 30 40 50 60 years uh maybe 60s long but yeah well whereas i mean how long do you genuinely

00:46:49.880 envision yourself working i would say 130 000 could be better spent on other things i don't

00:46:57.640 know anyways whatever okay all right introduce yourself please i'm terese a lot of people call

00:47:04.560 me Prettier. That's my stage name. What's your stage name? Prettier. Prettier. I do music. I'm also

00:47:10.120 Prettier. Yeah. That's nice. I'm also, well, I'm 37. I'm from St. Louis. I live in Atlanta. I'm a

00:47:17.660 film director, so I shoot music videos. I direct music videos, short films. I also have a podcast

00:47:24.980 called Boxed In. The film company I work for is Wicked Films. That's my boyfriend. We own our

00:47:30.460 companies together okay i also do a and i work so i get artists uh signed to labels and stuff so if

00:47:36.880 y'all know like who glorilla is we've done music videos for like sexy red a lot of people that

00:47:42.280 y'all might know uh age 37 uh any college or anything like that yes so i went to flow valley

00:47:50.120 college in st louis and then i also went to trade school called batterite for cosmetology so i did

00:47:56.640 here alongside working for a marketing company called Thrive, formerly known as The Real Yellow

00:48:02.620 Pages. I worked there for about seven years. I was doing that full-time before I got into film,

00:48:08.700 but I was really good in sales. I went on all the CEO trips. Yeah, so I did that.

00:48:15.140 And you said your stage name is Prettier.

00:48:17.780 Mm-hmm.

00:48:18.380 So I'm an artist name.

00:48:19.580 Artist name.

00:48:20.360 Mm-hmm.

00:48:20.840 What is the, what's the background there?

00:48:27.520 Like if somebody had a stage name of Ice Cold.

00:48:31.020 Yeah.

00:48:32.000 Because they're cold.

00:48:33.860 Because they're cold.

00:48:34.660 Why Prettier?

00:48:36.880 Well, I mean, just growing up, people always told me I was pretty.

00:48:39.780 And then, so when I started dating my man that I'm with now, we dated, we met in 2020.

00:48:45.960 So I had dreadlocks, right?

00:48:50.360 So I met him right before I locked my hair up.

00:48:54.980 I had, like, long locks.

00:48:56.260 And he was just like, you're so much prettier with the locks.

00:48:59.360 And then I was like, I released my first song, and he was like, that should be your artist name.

00:49:04.420 And it was already my Instagram name.

00:49:06.240 So I just kept it and went with it.

00:49:08.360 Okay.

00:49:08.600 All right.

00:49:09.780 Okay. What about you?

00:49:11.640 I am Jenny, and I am originally from Mississippi.

00:49:15.680 We picked up our family and moved to Tempe, Arizona, and that is where we reside right now.

00:49:22.560 I work for the state of Arizona.

00:49:24.720 I have a communications degree and a minor in biblical studies.

00:49:29.820 I was accepted to GCU for a master's degree, and I've passed on that.

00:49:35.960 Not going to rack up any more debt.

00:49:37.860 if it can lend me a house and mississippi college is a private college so okay uh and uh age oh i

00:49:48.120 am 48 48 okay all right that is the uh panel that's the panel we're going to go around the

00:49:54.740 table once more what is your relationship status i'm single single uh for how long four years

00:50:02.360 four years longest relationship um maybe like a year and a half just one relationship just that

00:50:07.580 year and a half just one relationship okay you've never had any other boyfriends um nothing

00:50:13.420 significant no uh so you've only told one guy you love him correct not two i mean i love my brother

00:50:22.000 too well just romantically speaking well you love your brother romantically no not romantically oh

00:50:28.340 okay but he's a man and i've told him i love him okay loophole i guess um so you've been single for

00:50:34.000 four years so your 1.5 year relationship ended four years ago yes okay in the four-year period

00:50:39.760 have there been any guys in the picture I mean I dated what I feel like are a thousand people but

00:50:44.360 thousand people not really but yeah it feels like I dated every kind of man out there every

00:50:49.440 kind of man yeah terrorists okay never mind but yeah it feels like a diverse group women date

00:50:55.680 terrorists i mean not to my knowledge not to your knowledge no okay um so when you say you've dated

00:51:05.580 now i know you're you're doing hyperbole a thousand men yes let's narrow down that what

00:51:13.120 you think the actual number is in the last four years sure um i mean like i would say a hundred

00:51:19.280 100 is maybe 100 dates in four years 100 different men yeah 100 men yes more than 100 dates but 100

00:51:28.400 different and then how many so okay and that's a first date right some some of them didn't go

00:51:33.100 beyond the first date most of them no most of them yeah how many of them went second date

00:51:37.900 oh maybe 20 20 how many went third date maybe 10 maybe 10 okay now um

00:51:49.180 you've been in LA for a month and a half any and you live in Paris but then you're originally from

00:51:59.460 Ireland are you going back to Paris or are you gonna go back to Ireland when you're I'm never

00:52:04.400 going back to ireland i'm going back to paris why are you never going back to ireland just not for me

00:52:09.140 that's where you're from that's your homeland and i spent like 22 23 years there and i just

00:52:15.220 never connected to it it's got a beautiful countryside it's very green very green what's

00:52:19.160 wrong with ireland i can't live just for the grass so what's wrong what's wrong with ireland

00:52:23.060 um it's just you know the culture is just not for me i thought culture yeah to which you're a part

00:52:28.620 of as an Irish woman sure I mean but it's just not something I really enjoy in the same I just 0.72

00:52:35.540 feel like I'm not a good Irish person you're not a good Irish yeah I'm not I've never just had that

00:52:41.020 natural bond with people and you know there's I don't know there's a lot of reasons but I always

00:52:47.200 thought that the French be more for me and now I don't necessarily think that but uh I still love

00:52:52.720 Paris just for the beauty of it all and the opportunities and everything so uh what what is

00:52:57.860 your contention with the irish or ireland um i suppose it was more back like back then when i

00:53:05.360 moved but i don't think it as much now but i just felt like um it felt like i lived in a very small

00:53:11.400 town i lived in like i suppose a medium-sized city but um everybody felt like they had the

00:53:16.600 same mindset there wasn't a lot of diversity i prefer people who are ambitious and look for

00:53:21.360 new things and new opportunities and want to try and you know see those things in life and i felt

00:53:26.600 like everybody liked their one way of living and they were happy where they were and judged me for

00:53:32.480 ever wanting more. Well, I mean, so you lived in a small city. Well, it's the second city of Ireland.

00:53:38.940 So it's not that Cork in the south. Okay. And so the other one's what, Dublin? Yes.

00:53:44.580 Wait, there's, hold on. There's like two, this is going to sound really retarded. There's like 0.98

00:53:47.840 two Ireland's, right? Yeah. I mean, there's the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Yeah. 0.91

00:53:53.140 Which is, what's the main city?

00:53:55.460 Wait, wait, wait.

00:53:56.180 Belfast.

00:53:56.840 Belfast.

00:53:57.520 It was the tip of my tongue.

00:54:00.040 Okay, so not a fan?

00:54:04.400 Of Belfast?

00:54:05.120 Of Dublin.

00:54:06.580 Oh, Dublin.

00:54:07.720 I mean, Dublin's just a bigger quirk.

00:54:10.220 And I mean, I actually think quirk has more soul.

00:54:12.180 Yeah.

00:54:12.440 Okay.

00:54:13.960 All right, so you're in Paris.

00:54:16.240 So you did some dating in Ireland, did some dating in Paris.

00:54:19.660 I did no dating in Ireland.

00:54:21.120 What do you mean, no dating?

00:54:21.780 I mean, I had one boyfriend.

00:54:23.260 Was that the 1.5-year?

00:54:25.040 Yes. 0.64

00:54:25.940 He was Irish. 0.99

00:54:26.560 He was not Irish.

00:54:27.280 He was Polish. 0.73

00:54:28.860 Okay.

00:54:29.460 So I was never about Irish guys.

00:54:32.060 All right.

00:54:32.480 I know lots of American women like me. 1.00

00:54:34.360 When did you move to Paris or France, I guess? 0.99

00:54:36.540 So four years ago.

00:54:37.420 Four years ago.

00:54:37.980 Wait, so did you break up with him because you were moving?

00:54:42.160 No, we broke up, and I always knew in the back of my mind I would move to Paris,

00:54:46.400 so I was living with him and everything, and working in the same place too.

00:54:50.940 Therefore, I felt like my whole life kind of exploded,

00:54:53.280 so I took the opportunity to finally move.

00:54:55.980 Okay, and so you did a bunch of dating in Paris.

00:55:00.960 You said in the four years, you dated 100 different men.

00:55:05.140 You've been in L.A. for a month and a half, I think I was asking.

00:55:08.360 Have you done any dating in L.A.?

00:55:10.200 Yeah, I've gone on a few dates.

00:55:11.660 How many different?

00:55:12.340 So you've been here for a month and a half,

00:55:13.940 so I'm sure it's pretty fresh in the memory.

00:55:17.540 How many different men have you dated?

00:55:19.940 In L.A.?

00:55:20.340 Or, like, met up with in L.A.?

00:55:22.600 I think three or four.

00:55:25.420 And how do you typically meet them?

00:55:26.760 Dating apps?

00:55:27.560 Yeah.

00:55:27.980 So you're on what, Hinge?

00:55:29.340 Just Hinge, yeah.

00:55:30.140 Just Hinge.

00:55:31.020 Do you ever meet them at bars or clubs or anything like that?

00:55:33.940 I mean, I meet people in these places, and, you know, I meet people on the street even.

00:55:37.860 Sometimes people just ask you out on the street.

00:55:39.380 That happens a lot.

00:55:40.200 Happens a lot.

00:55:41.160 But I think out of everyone who's ever asked me out, like, in real life, if you will, I

00:55:45.520 think I've gone on, like, one or two dates.

00:55:47.060 so mostly uh online dating mostly dating apps yeah so in paris you use hinge yeah everywhere

00:55:55.380 okay and so a hundred men four years what was the longest period of time you dated any guy

00:56:04.440 in that four-year period um maybe like a month one month yeah a hundred so just to be clear

00:56:12.880 Four years, a hundred men.

00:56:15.200 Sure.

00:56:16.260 The, all those handsome men, Parisian men, whatever.

00:56:22.540 They're not that handsome.

00:56:23.540 That's, okay, that's largely the problem, I think.

00:56:26.140 They're not good looking enough is the problem.

00:56:28.680 Well, it's one of them, it's one of them, yeah.

00:56:31.360 A hundred men, though.

00:56:32.740 A hundred men, and, well, Paris is a very international city,

00:56:36.680 so there's opportunity to date a whole diversity of people.

00:56:42.200 I mean, you couldn't make it past a month.

00:56:44.540 Well, first of all, it's not that diverse when it comes to men. 0.78

00:56:47.020 There are a lot of foreign women in Paris because girls buy into the dream a lot more than men and the salaries are not that good. 0.99

00:56:52.540 Therefore, there's not enough reasons. 1.00

00:56:54.040 There's way more. 0.99

00:56:54.960 Well, if we're talking about like immigrants, there's way more male immigrants in Paris than there are women immigrants. 0.87

00:57:01.760 Well, I don't I don't need a huge amount of immigrants, though, but sure. 1.00

00:57:05.180 Like illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:57:06.240 Perhaps you don't want to date them. 1.00

00:57:08.100 But not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that.

00:57:11.940 But, okay, so what was the problem?

00:57:16.000 A hundred men, none of them got past a month.

00:57:18.700 What was the problem?

00:57:21.520 Well, I think largely I hate inconsistency.

00:57:25.080 And I feel like people are so unreliable nowadays.

00:57:27.820 And this hot and cold behavior, I'm not into it for a second.

00:57:30.600 And I'm not willing to, you know, stick around and wait for people to act appropriately.

00:57:35.520 What do you mean by act appropriately?

00:57:38.140 Like if you say you want to see me again,

00:57:40.260 if you say you want to meet up a certain time place whatever uh do it don't just come up with 0.52

00:57:44.700 stupid excuses like someone has a party to go to I'm sure you know um so I'm just I'm not into that 0.86

00:57:50.360 and I think men because of the dating app culture find women to be sort of disposable so if I'm not 1.00

00:57:56.320 going to just sit around and look pretty and be easygoing all the time they move on to the next

00:58:00.900 well here's the thing though um

00:58:03.740 how do i best frame this hmm all my standards are too high

00:58:11.980 uh so you're saying that uh this unpredictability or this change in behavior

00:58:20.780 is it after you sleep with them um i don't think it revolves around that no

00:58:27.300 well that doesn't answer the question though you don't think it revolves around that but how could 0.94

00:58:32.680 But do you sleep, but hold on, do you have sex with these men, and then? 0.52

00:58:39.480 I mean, I don't know how to answer that. 0.64

00:58:43.500 I mean, of course, in some situations, yes.

00:58:45.440 Of the 100 men that you've gone on dates with in the past four years, how many of them did you sleep with?

00:58:52.100 Well, I'm not going to answer that question, but.

00:58:53.940 Why not?

00:58:54.780 Because it's private.

00:58:56.420 You're on a dating discussion podcast.

00:58:58.040 Yeah, I know, but it's not a bad number, but I'm just not going to say the number.

00:59:01.280 But, I mean, I don't think it's directly linked to that at all.

00:59:04.740 In some cases, maybe it was.

00:59:06.080 In some cases, it definitely wasn't because they didn't.

00:59:08.980 But I just think men come on very strong and they're full of compliments,

00:59:12.220 especially French men and with all this flowery language.

00:59:15.420 And, yeah, and then they just all of a sudden disappear

00:59:19.240 or all of a sudden they're too busy or all of a sudden whatever.

00:59:22.560 Okay, just curious, though.

00:59:24.740 You're not willing to answer the question?

00:59:26.280 Mm-mm.

00:59:27.280 Okay, so 100 dates.

00:59:30.260 So how about this?

00:59:31.160 How long have you been celibate?

00:59:32.700 Like a year.

00:59:33.940 You haven't had sex in a year? 0.65

00:59:35.340 Mm-hmm. 0.88

00:59:36.840 Not some guy out in L.A. that...

00:59:38.460 No, why would I?

00:59:39.740 Why not?

00:59:41.060 Because there's no reason to.

00:59:42.400 I want a guy who's committed to me and is willing to stick around and build something.

00:59:45.880 Hold on.

00:59:47.460 But you haven't been celibate for four years.

00:59:50.040 No.

00:59:52.420 I'm not a virgin.

00:59:53.740 Well, sure, but you said in the past four years, the longest period of time you've dated

00:59:58.520 the guy was one month and so you say why would i waste my time in la or with even these guys in

01:00:04.440 paris well i don't mean like actual time i mean like if there was a strong enough connection i'm

01:00:09.180 not saying that you know a certain amount of time is needed necessarily but you don't have

01:00:13.360 apprehension with sleeping with a guy relatively quickly what's quickly first date second date

01:00:19.020 third date i wouldn't do it quickly now but i don't judge people who have and i have but i was

01:00:26.900 never really about it what do you mean you weren't about it like you it's not something that was ever

01:00:31.260 a common occurrence for me at all but you've done it in the past four years yes in the past four

01:00:36.940 years i mean certainly if you've the longest period of time you've seen a guy was one month

01:00:41.420 and you've been sexually active to some degree in the past four years then i would imagine you've

01:00:46.760 had sex quickly i wouldn't define it as quickly but how would you define it the appropriate amount

01:00:54.080 of time. The appropriate amount of time. When you think you're moving into a relationship with

01:00:57.200 someone, I think it's okay. Now I would be, I'm just saying my standards have increased with time

01:01:01.420 around that. So I'm more particular. So just to be clear, just so I understand correctly,

01:01:06.560 as you've gained experience, as you've gotten older, as you've slept with more men,

01:01:13.980 your standards have increased. My standards around who I would sleep with have increased,

01:01:20.340 yes well yeah who i mean they were all they were always high to be honest with you but

01:01:24.500 even more so when you say your standards were always high like i always wanted to wait for

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01:01:59.420 apply you know never slept with anybody anybody as a teenager or anything like that i told you

01:02:04.320 i didn't date any irish guys so i really like to try and wait for the right person where there's

01:02:09.340 that emotional and chemical connection chemical did you say chemical connection like that chemical

01:02:16.100 thing what chemical thing oxytocin is that what she's talking about yeah but you know you could

01:02:22.420 be like attracted to someone without being like really attracted to them or you could but no what

01:02:26.660 i'm trying to say is you could find them attractive but not be really attracted to them

01:02:29.920 you know so it's like the difference in between those things sometimes you know out of a hundred

01:02:35.160 people you might have that one person that you just have this inexplicable connection with and

01:02:38.980 this is is this usually a looks thing um i think it's a combination of things i think it's mannerisms

01:02:43.960 I think it's looks, I think it's personality, I think it's the way they're treating you

01:02:47.000 and, you know, everything.

01:02:49.140 All right.

01:02:51.140 Hmm.

01:02:53.980 Well, I guess my confusion is you said you have gone on three to four dates with three

01:03:00.380 to four, or well, you've gone out while in L.A., you've been here for a month and a half

01:03:04.900 with three to four different men.

01:03:06.760 Do I have that correct?

01:03:08.540 Yeah.

01:03:09.920 Why?

01:03:10.440 Well, I haven't been in L.A. for a month and a half, but yes, let's say a month, sure,

01:03:12.980 whatever.

01:03:13.200 A month.

01:03:13.960 Um, cause you, didn't you just say that you felt it would be somewhat pointless to, I,

01:03:22.540 I recall you hinting at or alluding to something being pointless.

01:03:27.740 Oh, well, I don't think, uh, finding someone that I have a connection here would be pointless.

01:03:31.400 Like I would be willing to travel and do all that.

01:03:34.400 It doesn't have to be a super like, you know, conventional dynamic.

01:03:39.460 Okay.

01:03:40.140 Cause I'm more about the connection.

01:03:42.460 Um, I don't know.

01:03:43.960 Maybe I'm misrecalling.

01:03:45.920 You said something about something.

01:03:47.880 Maybe it was like hooking up with guys out here or being pornless or something.

01:03:50.680 Yeah, I have no interest in like super casual dynamics at all.

01:03:53.780 But you're only here for a short period of time.

01:03:56.300 I know, and I make that clear to anybody I go on a date with.

01:03:58.920 But it's like, you know, let's see if there's that spark.

01:04:01.620 You know, I guess it's sort of like looking for that fairy tale, even though I don't really believe in it.

01:04:06.220 But it's just being open to who knows, maybe my husband lives here and seeing if that happens.

01:04:11.120 because i always felt drawn to this place and drawn to different places in america so you never

01:04:16.680 know and i'm so sick of frenchmen i'm not doing that anymore one thing i always found confusing

01:04:21.920 when i was doing online dating many years well not maybe not many years ago but i've been off

01:04:29.580 the dating apps for three or four years at this point is occasionally you'd have women who were

01:04:34.460 in town for a week, a couple days, whatever. And I always found it a bit of a head scratcher.

01:04:43.340 The only option here is short term. Why else would you be on a dating app? Now, of course,

01:04:51.180 it could be the case that she just wasn't that into you and she would have fucked a hotter guy. 1.00

01:04:55.020 But I always found it a bit of a head scratcher. It's like, why are you going on dates when you 0.99

01:05:01.380 live across the country the only thing we really can do is fuck like oh we're gonna we're gonna 0.99

01:05:09.480 be long distance well we should fuck and then we can be long distance but what's the point of just 0.99

01:05:13.920 going on dates if you're traveling i doesn't make sense to me no i mean i understand but i just want 0.96

01:05:21.020 to see what happens and i like i said i make it clear to the people that i'm not around for long

01:05:25.240 necessarily no sex you haven't had sex with any of the guys while you're here absolutely not no 0.97

01:05:30.240 Handjobs? 0.98

01:05:30.900 No, no, they haven't kissed them or anything. 0.97

01:05:32.400 No kisses?

01:05:33.140 No.

01:05:33.620 What's the point?

01:05:35.180 They're not for me.

01:05:36.320 They're getting you dinner?

01:05:37.340 No.

01:05:37.900 It was like literally coffee.

01:05:39.120 It's terrible here.

01:05:41.540 Just what's the, I don't know.

01:05:43.060 What's the point?

01:05:44.520 But what if that's my person and I never gave it a shot?

01:05:47.280 If I don't put myself out, I'll never meet anyone out there in the world, you know?

01:05:51.200 I guess.

01:05:52.000 Okay.

01:05:52.340 It's just being hopeful.

01:05:54.300 Really quick, what are your high standards?

01:05:56.520 My high standards, like physical and otherwise?

01:05:59.100 Sure.

01:06:00.040 I like, generally speaking, tall men.

01:06:02.400 How tall?

01:06:02.720 So I think I put down 5'10", and I think that's reasonable.

01:06:05.240 But that's if they're really 5'10".

01:06:06.900 If they're lying about that, I can't, you know.

01:06:09.260 Because a lot of the time you show up to dates and they're actually shorter, as we know.

01:06:12.240 And I'm almost always wearing some sort of heel.

01:06:14.500 So then all of a sudden we're the same height.

01:06:17.500 Happens all the time.

01:06:18.400 So ideally a taller guy who has confidence.

01:06:22.940 And I mean, I'm really not that particular.

01:06:25.920 Just, you know, a tall guy with confidence who's willing to treat me.

01:06:30.040 with kindness and respect. Okay. Um, tall guy with confidence, who's willing to treat you with

01:06:36.560 respect. Yeah. Like consistency and, you know, okay. Um, and you're saying none of the hundred

01:06:45.520 men that you've dated in the past four years were tall, confident or consistent. Uh, I think the

01:06:53.400 last one's the problem, the consistency, and I'm super sensitive to it. So yeah, maybe they're,

01:06:58.320 maybe they're tall, maybe they're great looking, maybe they're kind, maybe we have a laugh,

01:07:01.960 but it just seems like it doesn't last long. But okay. And by the way, this number could be higher

01:07:07.660 than a hundred. Is that? Yeah. I haven't counted. Like how frequently, if you had to, maybe a better

01:07:13.440 way to think about it is, um, do you go on like one or two dates a week on average? No, maybe that's

01:07:22.940 a lot maybe a month but i also have taken breaks so wait one or two per month okay it depends i've

01:07:31.260 gone through times where i'm all about it i'm really eager to go on dates and meet people and

01:07:35.400 then maybe i'll do one a week but then i've also gone through periods where i get so pissed off

01:07:39.680 that i take you know three four months off dating and delete the apps and do all that have you ever

01:07:44.660 gone on two dates in one day or night yeah i think i have huh yes uh three dates no not three dates

01:07:52.380 Two dates, though.

01:07:53.060 Like maybe like a lunch date and a dinner date.

01:07:54.760 Lunch date, dinner date.

01:07:55.760 Did the guy pay for her?

01:07:58.460 Probably, yeah.

01:07:59.300 They'd still pay. 1.00

01:08:01.380 Yeah, I think if a woman's going to go on, honestly, if a woman goes on two dates in a day, night, day, whatever, 1.00

01:08:09.880 neither of them have to pay. 0.97

01:08:11.260 That's my philosophy.

01:08:13.620 What do you mean?

01:08:15.400 You just walk out of the restaurant?

01:08:17.400 No, I mean, you pay for your own food, but you go, essentially what I'm saying is you split the bill.

01:08:21.240 how do you know that the guy didn't go on two or three as well because they'll do as many as they

01:08:26.940 can get yeah well even if the guy did there's no obligation on women to pay for men so um you could

01:08:33.300 argue don't sleep with the guy don't take the guy if that's your if that's a deal breaker for you 0.88

01:08:39.260 but the treatment of okay the guy's gonna pay on the day because that's chivalrous 0.97

01:08:45.400 like you're moving shifty as fuck if you're going on two dates in a day so but i don't ask them to 0.64

01:08:50.920 pay, they just do. No, I, so I understand that, uh, despite how completely degenerate and modern 0.99

01:08:57.220 and feminist women are today, men still do the thing that women prefer because it's effective. 0.93

01:09:03.620 Um, men, men are, men do what works. And even if you're dating a liberal soy retarded leftist 0.99

01:09:15.960 progressive modern feminist woman uh it's still typically more effective to pay for the date 0.93

01:09:23.620 than to not um it's just video game term meta most effective tactics available

01:09:30.560 so men will just do what's effective tactics for what exactly that's the agenda to get laid later

01:09:36.960 right so you're going to do what it's a video game term tactics is just simply yeah but it is

01:09:41.880 what it is so you come to you come with an agenda you're trying to suggest when i use the term

01:09:47.280 tactics like it's somehow nefarious no tactics is like just simply like women as a tactic wear

01:09:52.860 makeup to make themselves more physically attractive um i would actually argue that's

01:09:57.100 more nefarious and manipulative than men paying for dates which is like a adherence to uh 0.93

01:10:03.480 outdated social norms whereas like women strongly manipulate women through their use of artificial 0.82

01:10:10.760 enhancements can you open the door all the way please in any case though yeah the two dates 0.94

01:10:18.420 in a day that's I mean does anyone disagree with me on that I believe the guy obviously the woman

01:10:24.440 would probably lie or not tell them or just omit I actually have told them in some scenarios and

01:10:30.520 they don't care not that it happens often but then one's gonna go I any anyone disagree with

01:10:37.060 me here do you think men should still pay for the date even if uh you know even if the woman

01:10:42.860 goes on two dates in a day yeah if they want to date her yeah yeah and it and it takes us a long

01:10:47.700 time to get ready and let's face it it's a meal we feed ourselves three squares a day every day

01:10:52.780 so it's not like you're giving like hey come get this gold chunk you know it's a meal so

01:10:58.860 you know it's the least i mean i don't know what's it if if the date's going to be like 100

01:11:05.140 total for for both of you yeah um then perhaps you would really be interested in the girl that

01:11:12.500 you're going out with if you know that the that the meal even if it's like oh sorry go ahead yeah

01:11:17.240 so so if you really have an attractive attraction to the girl and you think there's some chemistry

01:11:22.920 there then maybe you'll take her to a steakhouse or something but if you i feel like some guys um

01:11:28.760 i've had a guy tell me okay pick out of these three restaurants i'm like what you know so

01:11:34.140 i don't know they kind of put you on boxes so i don't know but i i've never been on two or three

01:11:41.860 so you you agree that the guy open door please you agree just keep an eye on it just keep it

01:11:47.680 perma open please you think that the man should pay on the uh pay on the date knowing that the

01:11:55.940 woman's been on two dates well if he's told ahead of time like in in a chat no it's not well right 1.00

01:12:02.740 Most women are not going to be honest about how they move. 1.00

01:12:05.200 How does the girl know that he hasn't been on another date? 1.00

01:12:07.600 There's no expectation on women to do fuck all on a date. 1.00

01:12:10.300 Yeah, you're expected to show up looking pretty and be engaging and participate. 1.00

01:12:14.320 No, men are just showing up in their clothes that they wore earlier that day.

01:12:16.980 That's completely bogus.

01:12:17.900 Men definitely prep for dates. 1.00

01:12:19.520 That aside, though, there's no financial obligation on women. 0.99

01:12:23.520 Except everything that it has to get ready. 1.00

01:12:26.620 One, we don't ask you to do that shit. 0.99

01:12:28.660 We don't ask you to pay. 1.00

01:12:29.540 I don't ask them to pay. 0.99

01:12:30.300 what would you care if somebody came in like a like a bonnet and like their pjs and shit because 0.98

01:12:36.340 i love walking around like that and i could totally come to lunch like that but you'd be 0.98

01:12:40.720 embarrassed right you'd be like no this is i think it's fine to look normally presentable but um like 0.99

01:12:46.820 all that extra shit that women do like your fake nails men don't give a shit about your fake nails 0.99

01:12:51.120 okay um all that other stuff also women say oh well i this this this container of foundation 1.00

01:12:59.160 and this container of blah, blah, whatever the fuck you guys put on your face, 0.99

01:13:04.820 the paint, this entire container costs $100, 0.99

01:13:10.020 so you should pay for the date. 0.97

01:13:11.780 But you've got to factor in, okay, this is a fucking Grether's pastille thing. 0.96

01:13:16.780 There's 20 pastilles in here. 0.98

01:13:19.020 Say this costs $30 for the entire box.

01:13:24.240 I wouldn't then say, okay, you owe me $30.

01:13:27.240 If I only take one past steel for the date, so to speak, you would have to divide by 30 to determine the per-use cost. 1.00

01:13:41.280 So women do this like retarded girl math where it's like, well, all my makeup collectively costs $500. 0.99

01:13:46.480 So that's, well, no, okay. 1.00

01:13:47.860 If you can get 300 uses out of your little fucking mascara container, then you would have to divide accordingly. 0.99

01:13:54.560 It's not even about the makeup, though. 0.99

01:13:56.460 And I don't give a shit if guys don't like what I'm wearing because I live for me and I do things for me. 0.81

01:14:04.840 But my hands look less old with nails on. 0.95

01:14:09.460 So when I don't have nails on, I don't care what guys care about.

01:14:16.200 I wear what makes me comfortable. 1.00

01:14:18.060 No man has no, there's never been an instance in history where a woman was, excuse me, sir, want some pussy. 1.00

01:14:26.460 And then the guy checks her nails first is like, nah, bitch, actually, I changed my mind. 1.00

01:14:31.140 You're very true. 1.00

01:14:32.240 That's never happened. 0.99

01:14:32.800 Never in the history of pussy offering has a man rejected a pussy offer because she didn't have fake nails. 1.00

01:14:40.480 No, I know. 1.00

01:14:41.120 Guys will fucking exhaust. 0.99

01:14:42.380 Yes. 1.00

01:14:42.720 I've seen videos of guys fucking exhaust. 0.99

01:14:44.280 So we're doing this for ourselves. 0.99

01:14:46.840 Do you get that?

01:14:47.380 We're doing it for ourselves.

01:14:48.180 The men shouldn't have to pay for it.

01:14:50.060 Well, then don't ask them out, right?

01:14:53.060 Well, wait, wait.

01:14:53.620 Or just ahead of time say, hey, do you mind going 50-50?

01:14:57.720 And then that way the girl and the guy can say yes or no, right?

01:15:02.540 Because it's time. 1.00

01:15:03.660 And then we wear heels and our fucking back hurts and shit. 0.99

01:15:06.200 So if you want a girl to just, hey, let's be casual, wear your PJs, put your hair in a bun, don't wear any makeup. 1.00

01:15:13.720 That's not what we're arguing about. 0.62

01:15:15.940 Okay. 1.00

01:15:16.240 Is the argument because women invest in makeup and their hair and cosmetics? 1.00

01:15:20.840 It's the time. 1.00

01:15:21.480 And cosmetics.

01:15:22.260 It's everything. 1.00

01:15:23.620 sure because you and look i'm gonna go ahead and grant that women as compared to men probably 0.99

01:15:31.360 do i want to grant it fuck it i'll grant it probably spend more than men do when it comes 0.99

01:15:40.360 to how they show up to a date right right um however so and just to be clear just so i understand 1.00

01:15:48.140 your guys's position because of that because women have a higher expense threshold to go out

01:15:54.760 on dates i suppose that therefore men should pay for the date because women spend more getting

01:15:59.880 ready for the date is is that your position i don't think that's the position it's a combination

01:16:04.820 well i understand maybe there's other things like social norms or whatever but that's one

01:16:08.780 argument i'd hear however i think that particular argument where well we put on makeup and we do

01:16:14.160 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Therefore men should pay because we spend more. It's like, well, hold 0.63

01:16:17.720 on. If I can demonstrate that I spend more in some conceivable way, therefore the woman should pay 1.00

01:16:23.920 because let's say I should, let's say I'm taking a 20 year old who works at McDonald's who makes 1.00

01:16:32.140 $20 an hour. I show up in a Lamborghini. I show up with a Rolex. I show up with a suit. I show up

01:16:40.240 with a concealed carry

01:16:42.380 weapon. I show up with a firearm.

01:16:44.940 I show up with like a

01:16:46.000 not like a plastic gun.

01:16:49.100 Well, you know, it's

01:16:49.720 rubber, plastic, whatever.

01:16:52.020 It's like a nice gun.

01:16:54.120 It's not like a little $500 gun.

01:16:56.280 It's a $2,000 gun.

01:16:57.460 Yeah, you got a Glock, right?

01:16:59.280 Well, metal.

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01:17:28.980 data rates may apply show up to the date yeah um and i make say i make millions of dollars a year

01:17:36.540 I spent more

01:17:38.420 Showing up for that date 1.00

01:17:40.200 So she should pay for the date

01:17:42.240 Well hold on

01:17:44.000 I spent more money getting ready for this date

01:17:46.860 Honestly I haven't heard anyone at the table

01:17:49.060 Say that oh because I spend

01:17:51.140 This amount of money on how I look

01:17:52.980 Well they slow

01:17:55.200 You know what I'm saying it has nothing to do with that

01:17:57.120 Just like she said she's on dating apps

01:17:59.100 Those men are on dating apps too

01:18:00.840 They like what they see

01:18:01.900 They want to take her on a date 0.99

01:18:03.500 So why would she show up looking crazy 1.00

01:18:06.440 when that's not the girl that I that I saw in the picture yeah and they ask I think that's

01:18:10.760 how she how she looks so I feel like there could be a man that takes a girl like you you don't

01:18:16.960 have any makeup you know say you do have your nails done but you know what I'm saying you 1.00

01:18:20.560 just naturally beautiful or whatever he might take you on a date and he's gonna pay because

01:18:24.920 that's just the like you said the social norm chivalry you know and I think some men have like

01:18:30.420 an ego thing like I'm gonna pay for a day because that's what I'm supposed to do because that's what

01:18:33.980 I can. But wait, wait, you mentioned chivalry. Now in your introduction, like, so you, you,

01:18:38.680 you also do OnlyFans. Is that correct? I do. Well, okay. I'm on OnlyFans. I don't do OnlyFans.

01:18:47.720 So what I mean by that is I had a lot of people that asked me, was I on OnlyFans? And I wasn't,

01:18:52.820 I just started like probably like a little less than a year ago. So, and my man was like, shit, 0.99

01:18:58.080 you look good. Just be on there. So like, I'm not, I don't do porn. I don't get naked. I don't do 0.99

01:19:02.720 anything so like have you ever sold uh sexual content no nothing sexual but you have an only 0.98

01:19:08.180 fans but it's not sexual so for example what do you post on there then shit me like let's just 0.99

01:19:13.720 say in this dress right i might turn to the side because i got a fat ass i got big hips 0.99

01:19:18.460 so i might turn to the side it don't matter can i go back to chivalry really fast let me let me 0.96

01:19:23.920 finish okay yeah let prettier finish please okay how dare you because i'm i'm gonna tell you what

01:19:30.240 people like to see me, right? They like to see like this dress. I'll turn to the side.

01:19:35.800 I might do a little wiggle. They like that. Blue jeans. There are people that just want to see me

01:19:41.600 in blue jeans. So I buy a lot of stuff from Fashion Nova. I'm a curvy woman. So they want

01:19:46.580 to see how the jeans fit. If I'm wearing a bikini, because if you go on my social media,

01:19:51.400 I don't really post. They want to see the ass. They do. They want to see the ass. So you know 0.99

01:19:55.880 that you're selling the ass. Now, do these men, do you message with them on OnlyFans? 0.99

01:20:01.240 I don't.

01:20:02.380 Who does?

01:20:04.080 I don't really talk to them. It's kind of like a-

01:20:06.160 Wait, wait. You said you don't. Who does?

01:20:08.580 Well, I'm saying other people that have OnlyFans, they probably talk to them. I hired a chatter.

01:20:12.660 I had a chatter one time, but I got rid of it because I didn't like how she was conversating 0.99

01:20:19.220 with them. Because I'm not a super sexual person or anything like that, and I don't

01:20:23.440 sell like sex content okay so all right yeah i have like you have like auto replies and stuff

01:20:29.480 like this so as soon as somebody subs like it'll just send like a message or whatever but

01:20:33.800 yeah i don't know you can't you you this is the thing right you can go to an ig model right now 0.67

01:20:39.640 right and you can see all the shit for free that i have on my only fans so it's like uh like you

01:20:45.100 have a paid subscription on youtube you said right so it's like you probably will post things on 0.54

01:20:49.820 youtube that other people could see for free but the people who pay a subscription on youtube they

01:20:53.760 could they could see it because they want to see you it's about they want to see me yeah but the

01:20:58.160 only fans has only fans has a reputation for being an adult content website so i think men will jump

01:21:05.340 to the conclusion uh you by the way a lot of people lie about the extent of what they put

01:21:10.780 post on only fans for various reasons i'm not saying that's necessarily the case for you but

01:21:15.480 women will even be full-blown prostitutes escorts come on the show and not even like kind of leave

01:21:23.280 that out i get so um not saying that you're an escort or prostitute but just just to give an 0.93

01:21:28.620 example of how sometimes people hold certain information yeah i mean y'all can sub right now

01:21:32.820 see i mean i'm from st louis i'm a finesser so i know exactly what somebody would look at me and

01:21:37.600 would think about i've never been what do you mean what do you mean by finesse i'm a finesser what's

01:21:41.080 the finesser. Okay the finesse move is me having only fans people a lot of people have preconceived

01:21:46.600 notions about me when they look at me they think I'm probably a stripper I've never I've been in

01:21:50.920 sales my whole life. No I would never think that. Some people have asked you know what I'm saying

01:21:54.880 like so if you see me like right now if I post this dress on my story and I post like my link 1.00

01:22:00.340 tree with my OF in there they're gonna go be like oh I could probably see her doing back shots or 1.00

01:22:04.780 something like that. No you're gonna be pissed. There are people have messaged me and said uh 1.00

01:22:09.400 you finessed me they're like damn like you was teased like yeah so my thing is okay so you're 0.99

01:22:14.420 taking advantage of the platform take advantage of the platform yeah so you're a hustler you're 0.98

01:22:18.000 finesser if there's a platform have you hustled in other ways like like what like you know obviously

01:22:24.200 you can finesse and hustle on of but have you hustled in the streets no i mean like you know

01:22:30.740 Nah.

01:22:31.400 In the streets.

01:22:32.360 In the streets.

01:22:33.260 In the streets. 1.00

01:22:34.040 Nah, I mean, shit. 1.00

01:22:35.200 I mean. 1.00

01:22:35.520 Shit. 1.00

01:22:36.140 What? 1.00

01:22:37.540 I mean, what do you, I guess it's.

01:22:39.280 Like, I don't know.

01:22:40.400 It could be scamming.

01:22:41.840 I'm not talking sex work.

01:22:43.100 I'm just talking straight scamming. 0.94

01:22:46.300 Finesseing.

01:22:47.580 Nah, because, honestly, I never had to do that.

01:22:49.880 You know, like.

01:22:50.360 All right.

01:22:50.680 But you're a finesser.

01:22:51.900 Yeah.

01:22:52.440 You're an OnlyFans finesser.

01:22:54.020 But the thing is, we can't keep telling people that because now they're not going to sub

01:22:57.000 to my OnlyFans. 0.97

01:22:58.320 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:22:59.840 Well, okay. 1.00

01:23:00.320 So, okay.

01:23:00.740 The reason I'm asking these questions is because we're talking about chivalry.

01:23:06.840 Who should count dates? 0.55

01:23:07.900 And it's like modern women, women in 2026 don't deserve chivalry. 1.00

01:23:13.260 You don't deserve your date to be paid for. 1.00

01:23:16.680 That's why we're not going out with people anymore.

01:23:19.320 Oh, whatever.

01:23:21.300 If you do OnlyFans or even if you don't do it,

01:23:24.800 like this doesn't just apply to the sex worker only flans.

01:23:28.520 Only flans.

01:23:29.260 Only flans. 0.99

01:23:29.820 Give me a cake or whatever the fuck that is 0.99

01:23:31.380 A planned cake 0.97

01:23:32.080 Even if you're just

01:23:34.840 I think if your politics are left

01:23:37.280 Or you're progressive, democrat, liberal 0.98

01:23:40.080 Or you're a feminist 1.00

01:23:41.400 Never should a date ever be paid for you 1.00

01:23:44.520 Ever

01:23:45.280 Ever

01:23:46.740 I mean I'm all for people doing what they want to do

01:23:49.800 So my thing is

01:23:51.080 If somebody asks me on a date

01:23:53.860 If I ask somebody on a date

01:23:56.000 I'm fully prepared to pay for the date

01:23:57.620 And I won't feel no type of way about it

01:23:58.980 You would feel a type of way. 1.00

01:24:00.660 I wouldn't fuck with you. 1.00

01:24:02.500 You wouldn't fuck with them? 1.00

01:24:03.120 We could be homies. 1.00

01:24:05.940 You're going to be the homeboy.

01:24:07.400 I thought you said you would...

01:24:09.620 I like my man.

01:24:11.580 I don't care what nobody does. 0.99

01:24:12.800 You'd still be cool, but you wouldn't fuck with them. 1.00

01:24:15.040 What's the difference between being cool with a motherfucker 1.00

01:24:17.760 and not fucking with a motherfucker? 1.00

01:24:20.520 If I fuck with you, you could be my little... 1.00

01:24:22.620 Boothin. 1.00

01:24:23.900 Yeah, you could be my little boo. 1.00

01:24:25.620 We can take things further.

01:24:28.080 But it's just everybody has

01:24:29.960 Their different standards that they look for

01:24:32.200 In certain people my standards are going to be different

01:24:34.100 From the next person so I like 0.97

01:24:36.120 A man it turns me on when a man 1.00

01:24:37.900 Pays for shit because I work hard as hell 1.00

01:24:40.260 You know what I'm saying like so 1.00

01:24:41.840 I work hard too yeah so if you

01:24:43.380 If I spend my money it's because I like

01:24:46.200 You and if I like you I'm tricking 1.00

01:24:48.340 You know what I'm saying like I'm buying shit 1.00

01:24:49.060 It's good for a woman to be a trick 1.00

01:24:50.280 The woman should be the trick 1.00

01:24:51.980 The woman should spend the money 1.00

01:24:54.180 I'm tricking off 1.00

01:24:54.920 i used to and that's where i want to circle back in my early 20s the guys that i really liked i

01:25:00.480 would buy the meal because i didn't want them to think that i was like taking advantage because i

01:25:05.760 really liked them but then i became in like the masculine role and they didn't it's like i took

01:25:12.020 away their mask like masculine role and then they didn't like me afterwards so then i had to switch

01:25:16.640 it like i let me get my feminine and let the man do it and so but now i'm just celibate i don't date

01:25:22.800 You got to do the balance.

01:25:24.760 You got to, it's a, it's a, it's a balance.

01:25:27.020 What's the balance?

01:25:27.840 Tell us. 1.00

01:25:28.280 The balance is, is you can still be masculine and she pays for everything. 1.00

01:25:33.880 No, that's beta shit. 0.99

01:25:35.960 Nope. 0.99

01:25:36.280 I mean, yeah, if she was, so yeah.

01:25:38.580 But me personally.

01:25:39.740 Wait, okay.

01:25:40.160 But here, really quick.

01:25:41.020 Going back to you.

01:25:41.940 Okay.

01:25:42.220 A hundred dates, four years, no boyfriend. 0.96

01:25:47.180 Where, shit, I had something on that. 0.99

01:25:50.460 High standards. 0.99

01:25:51.400 None of them worked out.

01:25:52.800 A hundred years, a hundred years, a hundred years, a hundred dates in four years.

01:25:59.780 And then we're talking, she went on two dates and then the guy still paid for it or whatever.

01:26:06.220 Yeah.

01:26:06.740 So I don't know.

01:26:07.700 I think, um, I guess just look, I'll just, what's wrong with you?

01:26:12.280 I would just be just paying.

01:26:13.740 Tell us what's wrong. 0.65

01:26:15.360 Bipolar?

01:26:16.200 No.

01:26:16.660 BPD?

01:26:17.500 I'd love for them to answer, you know, obviously they can't unless they're watching.

01:26:22.460 But, I mean, I think really it's just my standards.

01:26:25.560 I'm unrelentless in my standards, and men get fed up of this,

01:26:28.140 especially if I'm not into casual sex and anything like that.

01:26:31.680 They feel after a certain amount of time, I think,

01:26:33.660 that they're not getting anything out of it,

01:26:35.300 and they're not willing to play the long game. 0.97

01:26:38.600 That's the weed out.

01:26:39.600 Play the long game. 0.99

01:26:41.100 Yeah.

01:26:41.960 If you want to call it that.

01:26:42.760 But, again, you said you've been celibate for a year.

01:26:46.440 Sure.

01:26:47.660 Sure.

01:26:47.900 Yes.

01:26:48.980 So, wait, is it shorter than a year?

01:26:50.440 No, it's a year.

01:26:51.960 when was the date i'm not telling you that you wrote it down in a little journal yeah i'm sure

01:26:55.960 i'm sure it is there all right uh so anyways um look well here's here's another dilemma is

01:27:03.720 you make some men wait and other men get to hit right away no they all wait they all wait they

01:27:09.080 all they all have waited yes how long how long um like minimum you've never had like a one night

01:27:16.680 The first, the first, you, hold on.

01:27:18.600 The first, look, I'll admit it. 1.00

01:27:20.240 The first time I met a woman, I've had sex with her. 0.97

01:27:24.680 You've never, first time meeting a guy? 0.98

01:27:27.140 You've never gone and had sex with that man?

01:27:29.840 No.

01:27:30.700 Why is it okay for guys to do it? 1.00

01:27:33.380 But then if girls do it, it's like a. 1.00

01:27:36.300 Wait, hold on. 1.00

01:27:37.240 The sound effects. 0.72

01:27:39.020 Let's get the split.

01:27:40.660 Yeah, fix the split.

01:27:43.880 No, it's for, come on, fix the split.

01:27:46.680 you can be suspicious all you want

01:27:54.040 I'm looking you in the eyes

01:27:57.860 okay okay

01:28:04.500 all right I don't know um really really well I just feel like there would be nothing in it for

01:28:14.140 me why would i do that that's right but that's really just how i think i don't remember when it

01:28:19.440 was okay no not second day it would be dates in third date third date i'm not a third date real

01:28:25.720 kind of person but i can't tell you exactly uh but what's wrong with you though maybe we can

01:28:31.700 figure that out today no i just think that it's just are you what was your age again 27 oh that's

01:28:37.140 why you need a few more years and decades and then you'll be out of the fantasy of like

01:28:43.700 you know I just think it's you know you're hoping for this fantasy thing and in this

01:28:49.220 generation this day and age it's tough to get that and there's nothing wrong with wanting that

01:28:55.320 you know and because it's in our nature we're women so of course you know yeah but then I think

01:29:00.080 if I don't get close to what I want I would prefer to just be alone exactly I'm not afraid of that

01:29:04.440 so the peace is priceless right the freedom is priceless that's right exactly and that's great

01:29:09.260 that you know that early on but you know down the road um you know maybe the fantasy mindset

01:29:17.520 it kind of like goes away why are you on dating apps like why what's what's your issue with meeting

01:29:22.160 people in person oh what's um i mean i just don't ever really see some anyone that attractive i have

01:29:28.920 to what's your type wait you don't see anyone that attractive in person no california there's

01:29:35.300 lots of good looking people

01:29:37.080 well I mean this is actually

01:29:39.280 really illuminating and I think

01:29:41.440 we're going to zoom

01:29:43.380 in on what you just said

01:29:44.440 in person in Los Angeles

01:29:47.240 you don't see people

01:29:49.420 who are attractive

01:29:50.100 I mean okay I see

01:29:53.180 attractive people I don't find them

01:29:55.260 to be like attractive for me though like yes

01:29:57.380 I know objectively they're good looking people

01:29:59.200 like their vibe or energy or something

01:30:01.240 no you're talking about looks

01:30:02.580 maybe both well I guess if they had some sort of

01:30:05.280 a vibe that was really attractive to me then i would probably consider them people who i'm

01:30:08.780 attracted to but they don't so i think the problem is you're looking for true love on data apps if

01:30:14.420 if somebody's fine as hell and they're on a dating app something is wrong with them or they 0.99

01:30:19.620 trying to finesse you out some pussy so when you sit up here and go on these dates and then you 0.99

01:30:24.560 give them you give it up and then you wonder why they're being inconsistent because you you gave 0.99

01:30:28.380 them what they want now they on the on the date nap wait but hold on let's zoom in on the let's

01:30:33.060 zoom in on the you don't see attractive people thing this probably honestly you're probably

01:30:38.160 dating men like just to diagnose this without full knowledge sure you're like dating men outside of

01:30:44.480 your league that's why they're not willing to give you consistency because they just want to 1.00

01:30:48.100 fuck you and if you fuck great then goodbye and if you don't fuck okay great goodbye sure just 1.00

01:30:53.560 point blank no no sure but um i feel like i've also like i said dated all types of everybody 1.00

01:30:58.200 So, like, different, you know, age ranges, different ethnicities, backgrounds, jobs, etc.

01:31:03.980 So, that's, like, why I try to be very open-minded.

01:31:07.100 I don't really circle in on...

01:31:08.960 But, okay, four years single, 100 different men, longest period of time with any of those is one month.

01:31:18.300 if you after a hundred men you can't find one that at least does it enough for like

01:31:28.960 hey maybe it's not the guy you marry and look i understand you might attack that like okay well

01:31:34.040 whoever i want to date like has to be good enough for me to marry i would argue still though like

01:31:38.640 you can't find a relationship after a hundred dates you're either you're either operating

01:31:45.320 outside your league uh or you're like dating you're you're going on dates with men but you

01:31:54.960 believe you're outside their league and so you reject them but they're actually in your league

01:31:59.820 sure but i also just think um you know the nail in the coffin is always the consistency

01:32:06.000 so when something starts to go well they just drop out for whatever reasons and of course they

01:32:10.880 never give you the real reasons i don't and i don't know why that would be a problem anyways

01:32:15.260 is because we're not sharing the bed, are we?

01:32:16.820 Ha ha, you're trying to catch me.

01:32:17.960 Well, yeah, but I mean, I don't know.

01:32:21.420 Let's see.

01:32:24.800 Do you smell?

01:32:26.280 I don't know.

01:32:27.360 I didn't detect the smell.

01:32:28.720 I hope not.

01:32:28.960 I didn't detect the smell.

01:32:29.760 Yeah.

01:32:30.180 But I'm just trying to figure out what the problem could be

01:32:33.860 because you're saying you're interested in some of these dudes

01:32:37.880 and they're not showing up in the right way. 0.99

01:32:41.000 You're a good-looking gal. 1.00

01:32:42.180 I feel you know you some Parisian dudes would shack up with you what's the problem what's the

01:32:47.540 problem I don't know maybe aiming outside your league or maybe it's maybe right well but okay

01:32:55.940 hold on don't you think that that's a bit sometimes the problem is the other person 0.94

01:33:02.080 but after a hundred fuckers all right and I totally that's a lot of 100 dates no I understand 0.91

01:33:08.460 Yeah, and I analyze it a lot myself too 0.96

01:33:11.220 And I'm definitely open to evolving

01:33:13.240 And changing little things

01:33:14.780 She's young

01:33:15.520 She's too hopeful

01:33:17.280 She's hopeful, that's it

01:33:19.340 Have you asked somebody

01:33:20.840 Have you asked?

01:33:24.160 I mean, I think

01:33:25.080 Sure, over the years, I guess

01:33:26.840 What did they say?

01:33:28.280 Usually they just give me some excuses

01:33:30.120 To why they've been inconsistent

01:33:31.380 And if I really poke further

01:33:33.200 They'll just say something to the effect

01:33:36.300 Of my standards are too high

01:33:37.480 or I expect too much of them. 1.00

01:33:39.160 You should just become a nun, honestly. 1.00

01:33:40.840 I thought about it. 0.99

01:33:41.640 I think you have to join the nunnery.

01:33:43.420 I think it's over for you.

01:33:44.820 I'm okay with it.

01:33:45.640 It might be over.

01:33:46.440 No, it's not.

01:33:47.420 It's so over.

01:33:48.660 It's not over.

01:33:49.240 No, she's 27.

01:33:50.520 Same thing.

01:33:51.340 It's not.

01:33:52.180 But you're in your prime, girl.

01:33:53.520 27 is a prime age.

01:33:55.400 I think you need to stay off the date and a half.

01:33:56.340 I think you've got too many options, too.

01:33:57.960 I feel like you line these men up, you date them,

01:34:01.380 and then if they do something you don't like now,

01:34:03.140 you've got these other profiles, and you just go jump to the next.

01:34:06.160 I don't think you're giving them a real chance.

01:34:09.380 Yes.

01:34:10.260 Prettier is spot on.

01:34:12.140 Grass is greener.

01:34:13.520 You got so many options.

01:34:14.780 You got Pierre on Tuesday, and then you got Gautier on Thursday.

01:34:22.360 You're looking forward to Gautier when you're kicking it with Pierre.

01:34:25.320 Your mind's not in the moment.

01:34:27.140 Sounds like dudes.

01:34:27.920 You're distracted.

01:34:29.500 You're distracted.

01:34:30.640 All right.

01:34:31.200 Okay. 1.00

01:34:31.680 You're eating escargot one day and a fucking baguette the next. 0.99

01:34:35.580 you're too much it's too much you've got to calm down and i'm 37 i don't think i've dated 100 0.99

01:34:41.660 so that to me that's that's insane but i feel like if you're open to it i'll be honest with 0.99

01:34:46.840 you just like i'm not gonna lie everybody's skeptical like oh i didn't fuck on the first 0.85

01:34:50.720 night if i'm gonna be honest with you if you go on a date with a man and you tell him you 0.95

01:34:54.520 at 27 have dated 100 men and you're celibate for a year if i was a man i'd be like girl okay

01:35:01.740 like you're probably scaring potential potentially good me in a way she probably doesn't tell

01:35:08.040 the men that she's gone dated that many men but you're are you saying that if they knew that she 0.99

01:35:14.880 dated 100 men and she's been celibate for a year they'd be like girl you don't you fuck i i say it 0.99

01:35:21.620 all the time and they think it's funny yeah they think that's the problem they think it's funny 0.99

01:35:25.500 that's the problem that you're trying to look for a relationship and you're on but then that's not

01:35:29.320 gonna be my problem do you really think that do you really think that a man who is a good man

01:35:33.980 good man tall fine as hell fine as hell he's on a dating app to find love or they are trying to 0.98

01:35:40.340 fuck some of them are but i think that the ones that are all of them are i love your ad libs by 0.98

01:35:44.800 the way i'm a cheerly i'm cheerly i'm your hype man i love it i think you're not giving them a 0.98

01:35:49.120 chance i think that your standards are probably a little too high what you think is inconsistency 0.99

01:35:53.540 might not be in because men go through shit men go through shit mentally they probably got baby 0.99

01:35:58.720 mama drama they probably do you don't know right but one minute you're saying that um they're all 1.00

01:36:04.460 looking just to have sex and the next minute i should give them more of a chance yeah why am i 0.95

01:36:08.960 giving sexually hound dogs more of a chance no all right i'll be right back are we paused no 1.00

01:36:16.020 oh yeah we're cooking girl cook it up and this is the thing too men men are sexual creatures 0.91

01:36:24.860 then some people some people need to try it before they commit to it okay you know i'm saying you

01:36:30.360 might not like that but i'm just i'm just keeping it real no if that's what they need to do they

01:36:34.920 can do that it's just it won't be with you yeah right i feel that but the inconsistency thing too

01:36:39.900 and this is my thing i i i am just so into reality it's not even funny if i'm dating somebody and

01:36:45.740 i don't hear from them in a few days i have to know that they're also dating too so they probably 1.00

01:36:50.020 don't want to hurt my feelings and let me know hey i'm over here with ashley fucking you know 0.99

01:36:54.580 i'm saying they gotta because just like you're dating they're dating that's right so you cannot 0.96

01:36:58.460 expect somebody to be exclusively committed to you just because they went on a date with you

01:37:02.600 no 100 but i think you just see it in the small moments it's like the checking in it's the planning

01:37:06.660 the next date it's the showing up for the next date when you said you were going to plan it kind

01:37:09.680 of thing it's it's that sort of thing so you're saying they plan the date and stood you up well

01:37:13.920 i mean they don't stand me up but you know it's like then they want to change it to the next day

01:37:17.400 just like that same day and all that's wrong with that for me i just don't think that's respectful

01:37:21.520 I don't deal with people that way I wouldn't deal with people I care about that way how is that disrespectful that's actually respectful the disrespectful thing yeah but I think you can feel the respect in it if it feels genuine if you if you see all the things coming together to make it seem like this is a genuine thing that's fine and I accept that but a lot of the guys just kind of wake up see what they want to do that day and if you know a little bit like the people that said they would come here obviously it's not for dating um but the people that said they would come here I would show up I said I was going to come here I was showing up you know

01:37:48.960 unfortunately unfortunately which i've learned over the years is not everybody has the capacity

01:37:56.580 like you do or like because i'm very similar to you so i feel like not everyone not every man

01:38:01.860 has that capacity you know the consistency and all which sucks because we're built we're built

01:38:07.640 different i was just gonna say those of us that dated in the 90s yes in the early 2000s when

01:38:15.360 there were no apps right you had to kind of lego the relationship and i think it was easier dating

01:38:25.960 yes in the 90s in the 2000s it was fun it was great i mean i'm not saying i didn't have one

01:38:33.180 night stands in the late 90s in 2000s yes i most certainly did and there was a lot of that in the

01:38:38.500 It's like, hey, here's my number.

01:38:39.820 I like you.

01:38:40.500 Yeah, you can meet somebody at Walmart or bookstores.

01:38:46.200 I think you ought to take yourself off the dating app completely and then start seeing men without that filter.

01:38:54.420 And what I mean is, is on that device, in that screen, you start.

01:38:58.740 And stop having so many options because I'm telling you, it's hard.

01:39:01.180 That, too.

01:39:01.700 We didn't have options.

01:39:03.680 I mean, we didn't.

01:39:05.200 We didn't have any options.

01:39:06.360 This was our neighborhood.

01:39:07.560 Yes.

01:39:07.780 we'd be like driving in the car and somebody'd be like hey you're cute whatever we would give

01:39:11.500 our numbers i was 21 when we were able to like so different wait seven minutes to download a

01:39:17.680 dude's picture you better believe i like you if i'm gonna wait seven minutes to

01:39:21.220 this picture yes and you had to pick up the phone media well there was letters too

01:39:28.080 like my ex-boyfriend wrote me like a three or four page letter front and back then what my

01:39:32.560 high school boyfriend serenaded me outside of my window with this if we took away the apps

01:39:37.320 then you get back to like she said earlier she likes reality go to reality like there's gonna

01:39:43.800 end up being someone you work with someone that sees you every day at your best and your worst

01:39:48.380 and that be the person that you invest in you have too many expectations and i say the same

01:39:52.960 thing for men i'm in that chat all the time telling them coffee dates in the in the autumn

01:39:59.160 go swimming in the summertime get outside if you are all dolled up that's great but you can still

01:40:08.140 wear all that makeup pull that hair up in a bun and go do something getting instead of sitting

01:40:13.400 at this table and all you're focused on is oh he's fixing he's fixing to drop a hundred dollars all

01:40:19.380 he's worried about is i'm dropping a hundred dollars you're not even getting the real person

01:40:23.520 when you're on these dates you're getting a manufactured version yes of their best ability

01:40:29.160 they weren't a mask for one date you just whereas if you work with somebody or like you're with

01:40:36.760 somebody all the time and you cultivate that relationship it is going to be a different

01:40:41.040 outcome and i think you're selling yourself short by being on these apps i think apps are like that

01:40:47.260 is what has created the hellscape of today because i remember i've taken guys out on dates i have

01:40:53.260 paid for drinks at Ruby Tuesdays we have done all I used to buy party balls like we had a good time

01:40:59.040 I'm a lot wilder than you might think I am um but we just I mean if I was caring and he didn't have

01:41:06.740 it like you roll it up it's good baby you know what I'm saying like there was like this something

01:41:12.020 organic and when they took and put all these pretty faces on all these pretty apps it cheapened

01:41:19.940 everything the entire dating market went to being nothing but transactional oh you don't like

01:41:25.860 somebody oh because they don't make i've seen it on here oh he's got to make 150 000 to even talk

01:41:31.640 to me you're looking at the wrong thing you're already look you are starting your relationship 0.53

01:41:37.720 out looking for the wrong damn thing because there could be a man that makes 55 000 a year

01:41:43.220 that will love you that will take care of you and break his back to make that money to provide for 0.84

01:41:51.160 you and that fairy tale you won't you're not going to get the castle it's going to be small

01:41:56.840 you i've heard rachel say it i've lived out in the country myself 30 minutes from town is it

01:42:02.640 inconvenient yes but are you able to have that grounded foundation in like cultivate that

01:42:09.540 marriage where when bad shit does happen you're there for each other because i've seen hundreds

01:42:16.440 of marriages oh y'all are good when things are up you're good when things are up and then somebody 0.96

01:42:20.660 gets sick then what happens oh most of the time when my dude friends get sick their old ladies

01:42:27.120 bail that's what happens they go find somebody else that's healthier they go do something else

01:42:32.240 so if i were you like i'm just gonna be honest like we went to the clubs we did all the things

01:42:37.840 and you can still do those things but you do not have to be on an app to do them yeah and there's 0.77

01:42:43.340 something and there are men out there that are far more organic like she said that hot ass dude on

01:42:48.640 there he's there to just get it so if you're not going to give it he's not going to give you his

01:42:53.860 time and even if you get some of his time that's all you're going to be allotted because he's going

01:42:58.480 to go off and find that from somebody else i hate to say this but there's a hundred thousand dudes

01:43:04.260 like rob zombie running around out there that are single than there are dudes like brad pitt so if

01:43:10.740 you're i mean i'm just being honest like i was that girl i did not fall for the chads you know

01:43:15.680 what i'm saying i liked rob zombie like that was my dude my old man looks a lot like rob zombie

01:43:23.120 today so like you have to give those dudes that don't fit that i hate cookie cutter guys and i

01:43:30.480 hate cookie cutter women too you have to bring some flavor to yourself and it's not just like 0.50

01:43:35.240 about you it's like i don't know how to explain it everything has just become so freaking 0.86

01:43:40.420 superficial being online just one second just one second for all this time you hijacked a

01:43:46.580 conversation there are three women here each one wanted to take a turn and they couldn't because

01:43:51.080 you were talking non-stop i am absolutely i apologize i just wonder i understand this is

01:43:55.900 one of the first times i've spoken and said anything at this table so i was going to take

01:43:59.820 No, not the first time, because everybody had a turn to say something about themselves.

01:44:06.160 So what I'm asking is, I mean, you said a lot, but my question is, what is your expertise?

01:44:12.920 You're giving advice to people as if you are an expert on something to fix her.

01:44:20.440 If you are so great, you are just amazing.

01:44:24.820 And we will hear you because Brian is asking everybody, like, in turn about their situation.

01:44:31.600 We will hear you. 0.97

01:44:32.720 But you had such a huge speech, not letting any of these women to speak a word in. 0.99

01:44:38.120 Do you know what people do when they have a communications degree and a minor in biblical studies? 0.99

01:44:42.660 That is my expertise.

01:44:44.500 No, I don't.

01:44:45.520 But what I do know, I know that Brian said not to speak all together.

01:44:51.720 I doubt it has.

01:44:52.460 Mathematics did help me with my marriage.

01:44:54.840 How did mathematics help you with your marriage?

01:44:57.260 My marriage very well.

01:44:59.820 Well, I don't have a mathematics degree, but I can definitely talk to my husband.

01:45:03.520 I know.

01:45:04.040 I know.

01:45:04.700 We have a great marriage.

01:45:06.220 Okay.

01:45:06.620 Let's interrupt each other.

01:45:07.940 Is that a problem?

01:45:09.080 Is it that I'm married? 1.00

01:45:10.360 Is that the fucking problem? 1.00

01:45:11.140 People over there cannot understand what is it everyone is saying because you're interrupting 1.00

01:45:15.800 and you're talking.

01:45:16.600 I'll be quiet, ma'am.

01:45:18.200 Please.

01:45:18.920 Y'all talk.

01:45:20.780 I flew.

01:45:21.320 I'll just be quiet how about you motion to me when I'm allowed to say something because she wanted to say something you didn't allow her to stick in she wanted to say something you didn't and I have sat here and been silent for the majority of this podcast have I not and so would you like for me to just continue to be quiet what I want you to do I want you to because I will to others and give I'm disrespectful now well you were okay for ladies I apologize to you I am so sorry that my 0.55

01:45:51.320 education and marriage 0.85

01:45:53.560 and status in life

01:45:55.040 isn't good enough for you

01:45:57.180 we don't know your education

01:45:59.040 and marriage and I don't know how much

01:46:01.560 I said I have a communications degree

01:46:03.360 from Mississippi College and a minor in

01:46:05.180 biblical studies

01:46:06.000 and I have a degree in mathematics

01:46:07.900 and what's that got to do with helping her 0.97

01:46:11.160 get a grounded

01:46:13.100 relationship

01:46:13.920 what did I get

01:46:16.220 what did I tell her

01:46:17.060 I bet the chat can tell you what I told her

01:46:20.860 what did I tell her one get off the apps

01:46:23.800 two be organic

01:46:25.580 there's probably two or three

01:46:27.940 other things that I said that I thought

01:46:29.880 would help you don't have to

01:46:31.900 take it and you don't have to listen

01:46:34.040 I don't

01:46:35.480 no you don't

01:46:36.920 so I'll be quiet Brian you continue the show

01:46:39.540 I am so sorry

01:46:41.240 that I stepped on your toes and said something

01:46:43.780 my toes no you stepped on

01:46:45.340 I'm sorry

01:46:46.140 I'm sorry ladies

01:46:47.720 I'm going to be quiet

01:46:49.960 A couple things here. You said to her, what expertise does she have to give advice?

01:46:58.880 First off, this is people who don't need a degree. They don't even provide degrees in dating-related topics. 0.70

01:47:08.580 So I think the expertise would be you've lived and dated and had experience.

01:47:14.680 So I think that's a bit of an appeal to authority that you just did there.

01:47:18.520 oh well uh what's your expertise it's like we're on a dating discussion podcast where people are

01:47:23.980 free to share their dating opinions secondly um she was you're both right and both wrong so um

01:47:31.720 she was speaking for like an extended duration of time however she is correct she hasn't really

01:47:37.060 spoken uh really much up until this point so she was she was taking the opportunity to speak um

01:47:44.820 Um, so I, I don't think that, um, I don't think she was doing anything particularly,

01:47:51.720 uh, egregious there. She, she, you've spoken quite a bit and you were saying, well, she

01:47:59.520 wanted to come in, uh, if we're looking at like total speaking time in her defense, she

01:48:04.700 has not really spoken too much. So, um, why don't we do this though? There's a bunch of

01:48:10.020 topics that have sprung up we'll get into them we have not yet finished the relationship status of

01:48:16.040 everybody so why don't we do that and then we can dive back into the various topics uh what's your

01:48:21.420 relationship status i'm married okay for how long for 33 years how long were you uh together before

01:48:28.340 for 35 total 35 years before okay uh and i'm i'm assuming that's your longest relationship of course

01:48:37.280 Yes, you are assuming correctly.

01:48:39.480 It would have to be.

01:48:41.480 Kids?

01:48:42.340 Yes.

01:48:42.700 How many kids?

01:48:43.420 Two.

01:48:44.680 Kids from, like, stepkids?

01:48:47.240 No.

01:48:47.860 Okay, so he doesn't have kids from someone else.

01:48:50.740 No, we have two kids together.

01:48:52.500 You have two kids together.

01:48:53.440 Yes.

01:48:54.140 All right, what about you?

01:48:55.420 Relationship status? 0.86

01:48:56.700 Single by choice.

01:48:57.880 Free as a bird.

01:48:58.840 Single, you're a free bird.

01:49:00.000 Freedom is priceless.

01:49:02.400 I love it.

01:49:03.240 Yes, I've been celibate nearly a decade. 0.99

01:49:05.280 It's fucking awesome. 0.78

01:49:06.160 can you can you do that little song again freedom is priceless yeah who wants that jingle that was 0.97

01:49:14.960 good you should sell it i know uh but okay uh very single you said very single is the term yeah

01:49:21.400 purposely purposely yes purposely not dating for peace and reasons yeah longest relationship

01:49:27.500 you've ever had two years two years with brett michaels no you wish no no don't wish no don't

01:49:35.480 wish he was a good looking guy in his day it's not about it's not about the looks no well he's

01:49:40.380 a good singer every rose has its thorn yeah no he's a good singer he's a good singer he ever

01:49:47.840 talented yes he did and it and he still couldn't crack the what do you mean i fell head over heels

01:49:54.560 on that fake ass show i thought it was real two items for 69 dollars and 98 cents including 0.97

01:50:01.960 whatever 7X long sleeve. 1.00

01:50:04.560 Chivalry is for women who deserve it. 0.99

01:50:07.360 My wife, 23, was virgin when I, 30, met her. 0.97

01:50:12.480 She deserves chivalry and has an outie.

01:50:15.380 Hashtag BLM, hashtag Tradwine. 1.00

01:50:17.780 Virgin and an outie. 0.89

01:50:19.260 Congratulations, dude.

01:50:20.400 What a catch.

01:50:21.580 What a catch.

01:50:23.640 But okay, so, any kids?

01:50:27.420 No.

01:50:27.940 No kids?

01:50:28.500 No.

01:50:28.680 i hope this isn't an insensitive question you're going to feel guilty afterwards but go ahead

01:50:36.360 what age do women typically stop being able to have kids i don't know are you can you yes i can

01:50:50.920 and uh you're 51 yes and i are they still can yes they can but because i had a miscarriage

01:50:59.640 and it was traumatizing in my 30s it was all michaels no it was brett's

01:51:05.860 no so it was traumatizing and so i um i just thought you know i'm just supposed to be a dog

01:51:14.000 mom so i've had a dog for 16 years who's and she just passed so um yeah so anytime and this is for

01:51:22.500 your viewers too don't ever think that just because a woman that doesn't have a child is

01:51:27.260 there's something wrong with her because most women do try and some women have multiple miscarriages

01:51:32.920 before they even are able to conceive and some people can't go through that so um yeah that's 0.98

01:51:39.700 that's the thing and yeah um and so okay uh longest relationship two years yes ever married

01:51:47.640 um i was engaged and um when i went to case western reserve university i was but i was very

01:51:54.060 young um i didn't have to work because i was in college so um he bought us a condo and a dog and

01:52:02.460 car and all the things um i planned the wedding had a dress fail everything but i just was like a

01:52:07.360 runaway bride. I was too young. Um, and so I definitely have had that whole scenario.

01:52:14.840 All right. Uh, relationship status. I'm single. Uh, for how long? Um, just about five years.

01:52:22.260 Five years. Okay. Um, you said you were married, married, married twice. Yeah. Married twice.

01:52:27.480 Longest relationship. 20 years. Uh, kids. Yeah. I have three children. Three kids. Uh, two from

01:52:33.760 one one from another okay um and two marriages yes two marriages okay uh are there currently

01:52:40.280 any guys in the picture no have there been any guys in the picture since you were divorced

01:52:45.140 uh yeah okay longest period of time you dated about a year and a half boyfriend or he was a

01:52:51.080 boyfriend he was somebody that i reconnected with um okay okay so really quick the first marriage

01:52:58.000 who initiated the divorce i did okay it was kind you know what i actually was kind of mutual mutual

01:53:04.240 it was okay uh and you had two kids with the first i had one one with the first yeah uh alimony

01:53:11.040 nope child support uh i was granted child support but i didn't receive it um for long periods of

01:53:19.920 time okay and then second husband self-sufficient i worked second husband who initiated the divorce

01:53:26.720 No, it was me.

01:53:29.560 Okay, and alimony?

01:53:32.400 Nope.

01:53:33.060 Child support?

01:53:33.960 Yes, minimal.

01:53:35.500 Okay.

01:53:38.800 Why did you break up with him, I guess?

01:53:42.140 Which one?

01:53:42.880 The most recent one?

01:53:45.780 Well, he's on the spectrum, and that kind of caused some issues across the board.

01:53:53.740 Hold on.

01:53:54.880 Let's rewind for just a second.

01:53:56.720 mm-hmm you divorced how long were you with him i was with him for i was married for 15 years i was

01:54:03.820 with him for 20 years okay together for 20 married for 15 two kids how old how old were they when you

01:54:13.240 split uh let's see eight nine ish something like that eight nine years old because they're three

01:54:20.340 And you divorced him because he's autistic.

01:54:23.500 No, no, because of the issues that come along with that.

01:54:27.560 It's a lot deeper than that.

01:54:29.660 But you were with him for 20 years.

01:54:31.260 Yeah, I know.

01:54:31.980 It was a big decision.

01:54:32.380 So, okay, what were the issues?

01:54:33.720 So he is autistic then?

01:54:35.320 Yeah, he's on the spectrum.

01:54:36.940 Are you on the spectrum?

01:54:38.480 I don't know, maybe.

01:54:40.000 Okay, I don't know, I'm just asking.

01:54:41.300 I think I'm ADHD though now.

01:54:42.840 I think we all do at this point.

01:54:44.980 But I have a daughter that is, so yeah.

01:54:47.040 So what were the, so he is diagnosed autistic?

01:54:50.340 Yeah.

01:54:51.680 What are the issues that that caused in the...

01:54:55.240 Lots of financial issues.

01:54:59.300 Financial.

01:55:00.060 Lots of social, yeah, some people that are on the spectrum, depending on where you are.

01:55:08.080 Yeah, okay.

01:55:09.120 A little bit scattered.

01:55:10.160 Sure.

01:55:10.380 I'm a great guy.

01:55:10.960 I can't say anything bad about him.

01:55:12.220 He's a great guy.

01:55:13.320 He's very well educated, comes from a great family.

01:55:16.140 There are certain things that I just couldn't handle anymore.

01:55:20.160 Financial is one, socially.

01:55:23.500 Socially?

01:55:24.180 What was wrong there?

01:55:25.920 Very socially awkward.

01:55:27.280 Well, socially awkward.

01:55:29.040 With who?

01:55:30.480 With me, with friends, with people, just in public in general.

01:55:34.860 Okay.

01:55:36.020 But also, you know, just lacks emotion and empathy.

01:55:41.980 So I just couldn't do that anymore.

01:55:44.480 Lacks emotion and empathy.

01:55:46.080 Yeah.

01:55:46.360 Yeah, so a lot of people that are on the spectrum, if they see that you're upset about something, they don't know how to react.

01:55:52.800 That gets really exhausting.

01:55:54.300 But didn't you?

01:55:55.360 No, I didn't know because what happens is.

01:55:57.320 It developed over time?

01:55:58.080 What happens, so it's something, it's called a mask.

01:56:00.680 So people that are on the spectrum or that have issues like that, it's called masking.

01:56:07.380 Yeah, I understand.

01:56:08.540 Basically, they are on their best behavior until you get comfortable in the situation.

01:56:14.280 and then little things start coming out and showing up and i didn't understand what they were

01:56:19.920 i mean i i like quirky i like different and i like wait wait hold on you said when you guys

01:56:27.120 got divorced at the time of the divorce your kids were eight and nine no no they were three years

01:56:32.680 apart so one was just what are the ages i think one was like nine maybe the other one was 12 i

01:56:38.540 don't you know okay hold on something you're talking i understand and by the way even like

01:56:43.920 not neurotypical people uh sorry i said non and then i uh neurotypical neuro yeah okay okay i got

01:56:53.200 it neurotypical people will still do like masking and like hold back certain whatever 0.97

01:56:58.940 you said though your oldest was 12 this fucker was masking for eight years no no no no it wasn't 0.97

01:57:10.240 that long no but okay okay but so here's my confusion you i understand people you know 0.98

01:57:16.400 they're they're on good behavior three months six months one year two years three however long

01:57:21.900 but you didn't you dated this guy you were with him for eight years right so i mean was he fully 0.99

01:57:28.720 mask off with his shit before you're like, you know what? I'm going to let this guy impregnate 0.99

01:57:34.440 me twice. No, no. I think it was when I started having children was when I started seeing like 0.79

01:57:39.600 behaviors changing. That's when it started happening. Wait, but you said he was the best

01:57:43.920 guy ever. No, he's a good guy. He's not a bad person. So, but I'm not going to stay with somebody

01:57:48.980 just because they're nice to me and a good person. And that seems like a pretty good reason.

01:57:53.720 They get my coffee right one out of a hundred times. 1.00

01:57:58.540 Why should a man ever be doing a woman's coffee? 1.00

01:58:01.340 That's ridiculous. 0.98

01:58:02.480 Well, no, he would go out and get me coffee or whatever. 1.00

01:58:06.300 Why should a man ever get a woman's coffee? 1.00

01:58:08.400 That is a woman's duty. 1.00

01:58:10.180 That is ridiculous. 1.00

01:58:11.660 Not my role. 0.96

01:58:13.320 Not my role.

01:58:13.980 Who was the breadwinner?

01:58:16.040 Who was the breadwinner?

01:58:17.200 I always worked.

01:58:18.380 I've always worked.

01:58:18.840 What about him?

01:58:19.280 Both of us.

01:58:19.940 We both worked.

01:58:21.000 He's a finance guy.

01:58:22.080 Finance guy.

01:58:22.900 so he made more money than you no actually i did i did i was in marketing pr then i left that job

01:58:30.280 i started at ucla i did costuming and up until covid and i made money i designed costumes for

01:58:38.820 and i had a belt company so okay was there a dead bedroom um actually no no not until i was done

01:58:47.040 and i was like i can't do this anymore um but no that wasn't the issue it's okay no abuse

01:58:52.580 no uh treated the kids well yeah just he's just a little awkward but yeah okay i think it's okay

01:58:59.420 to be i mean i assume you knew he was awkward no and and i didn't and i didn't mind that see i

01:59:04.600 didn't mind that but when it starts getting into like you have a party at your house and he's

01:59:08.860 arguing with people over politics and he's a staunch republican which is oh i love this guy 0.63

01:59:15.660 oh no you would love him and he would love you wait wait wait he's autistic which is not and

01:59:20.860 It's not a problem

01:59:23.580 But I have friends from all walks of life

01:59:26.140 And I would tell him

01:59:28.120 This guy sounds great

01:59:29.300 You can't talk 0.96

01:59:30.440 I don't want arguments at a freaking holiday party 0.96

01:59:34.200 You know what I'm saying 0.97

01:59:34.940 Talking about guns and Trump

01:59:36.500 Was he bringing up the politics

01:59:38.360 Look I'm conservative

01:59:40.420 But I won't go there first

01:59:42.760 I don't go there first

01:59:44.500 At like a social event

01:59:45.680 But living in California 1.00

01:59:47.660 These retards they got to complain 1.00

01:59:49.240 Oh, Trump is so... 1.00

01:59:50.680 Did you hear what Trump said

01:59:52.680 last time? Oh, my God.

01:59:54.460 And I got to go in. I got to go in.

01:59:56.620 I got to say something. I'll be like, you're fucking retarded. 1.00

01:59:58.660 Shut up. 1.00

02:00:00.300 He loves confrontation. 1.00

02:00:02.280 He liked to get a rise out of people.

02:00:04.600 Is he smart?

02:00:06.340 He's super smart. He's brilliant.

02:00:07.700 So he'd destroy them to be...

02:00:10.180 Yeah, and then they'd come up to me. I can't believe you're married to this guy. 0.97

02:00:12.980 You know, shit like that. 1.00

02:00:14.160 Wait, hold on. You blew up your marriage 1.00

02:00:17.000 because you were dating a conservative guy

02:00:19.020 who was outspoken oh my god wait wait wait you should have been his biggest cheerleader you 1.00

02:00:24.720 should have been like i didn't even like becky anyways fuck that bitch good job husband you 1.00

02:00:29.380 now we don't have to invite her to brunch anymore thank you you should have been thankful to your 1.00

02:00:34.640 husband for espousing some like you know uh maybe we just deport all of them like that's a w that's 0.98

02:00:40.560 a fucking w sorry no but but we're still we're no we're still we're friends now i mean everything's 0.98

02:00:47.140 like, fine. And I, you know, we're supportive of each other. It just, we just don't, there's 0.98

02:00:51.040 no romantic thing. That's all. There's no romance. First off, this is why you should

02:00:57.680 never have house parties. House parties are fucking, oh my God. I, I, oh. They were holiday. 0.99

02:01:04.960 They used to be fun. They were Christmas, Hanukkah, my birthday is December. It was

02:01:08.900 just a party. Oh, you, um, you, you work in, uh, fabrication. Oh, tell me more.

02:01:17.140 about your fucking career I don't care about. 1.00

02:01:20.020 Oh my God, that's, holy shit. 1.00

02:01:23.360 Never, I need to date an introverted woman. 1.00

02:01:26.480 I need to find an introverted woman 1.00

02:01:28.560 who has no friends and we could just stay at home together. 1.00

02:01:32.560 We'll have kids, we'll have a bunch of kids. 0.99

02:01:34.220 You don't like nails and shit. 1.00

02:01:35.380 There's plenty of introverted women out there. 1.00

02:01:37.440 There's a lot. 1.00

02:01:37.900 So many that don't go out and they love staying at home.

02:01:41.180 Wait, what about the nails?

02:01:42.500 They don't, none of them do their nails.

02:01:44.280 What's wrong with nails?

02:01:44.860 Love nails. 1.00

02:01:45.380 Yeah, so there's a lot of introverted women that – 1.00

02:01:48.380 Wait, what is the nails? 0.99

02:01:49.240 Because you are like – guys hate nails.

02:01:51.880 Guys hate – like you wouldn't like the girl because she'll have whatever nail she wants on, right? 1.00

02:01:56.540 You're like, I don't give a fuck about your dumb nails. 1.00

02:01:58.440 True. 1.00

02:01:59.100 Right. 1.00

02:01:59.720 So there's a lot of introverted women that just like to do whatever for themselves and they stay home, 1.00

02:02:06.100 but they don't want to have somebody come in and be like, fuck your nails, fuck your hair, fuck your style. 1.00

02:02:10.840 So you're saying – hold on. 1.00

02:02:12.440 you're saying i'm missing out on introverted yes because of my anti-nail stance yes there are a

02:02:22.080 lot yes you're missing out brian they're missing out how about that no that's no they're missing

02:02:28.360 out uh anyways i don't know um okay i'm just here to tell you they are they are why did you divorce

02:02:34.560 your first husband let's talk about that we were married very young very young and um was he also

02:02:39.720 autistic no no we just um we just grew apart it just was like you know not good timing i grew up

02:02:46.740 i wanted this i wanted more he was there abuse he was more content no mistreated you no so just

02:02:53.180 no just not compatible yeah he was going through things and just you know nothing major like that

02:03:00.420 all right well your husband sounds dope if he are you watching what's i don't know if we can uh

02:03:04.800 bart or robert or some shit um i'm sure you would love him i'm sure he is uh three years older than 0.96

02:03:14.920 me yeah 62 yeah all right what's like um all right saul of the name hey saul he's not jewish 0.73

02:03:23.040 is saul a jewish name i don't know there's not jewish that's a very there's non-jewish sauls

02:03:30.680 I'm sure there are, but it's primarily a relationship.

02:03:33.400 Relationship status for you?

02:03:34.640 I'm in a relationship.

02:03:35.680 All right, for how long?

02:03:36.580 Five and a half years.

02:03:37.500 Five and a half years.

02:03:39.420 Is this your longest relationship?

02:03:40.980 Yes.

02:03:41.760 Any kids?

02:03:42.600 Yes, I have two children.

02:03:43.560 With this guy?

02:03:45.220 We don't have any kids together.

02:03:46.720 Okay, so you have two children from one guy, two guys?

02:03:49.940 Two guys.

02:03:50.520 Two different guys.

02:03:51.380 How old were you the first time around?

02:03:53.680 18.

02:03:54.280 18.

02:03:55.180 Teen pregnancy. 0.67

02:03:56.120 Yeah.

02:03:56.300 And then how old were you for the second?

02:04:00.340 20.

02:04:00.860 They're two years apart.

02:04:02.020 18 and 20?

02:04:03.120 Mm-hmm.

02:04:03.760 18, 20.

02:04:04.540 Yeah.

02:04:04.780 Okay.

02:04:05.460 And were these guys you were dating?

02:04:08.040 Yeah.

02:04:08.560 So the first one, we dated in high school.

02:04:11.720 We were each other's first.

02:04:12.960 Yeah.

02:04:13.260 And literally, like, right after I lost my virginity, I got pregnant.

02:04:17.520 So, yeah.

02:04:18.260 Wait. 1.00

02:04:18.740 How soon after losing your virginity did you get pregnant? 0.87

02:04:22.280 Two months. 0.98

02:04:23.800 And it was with the same guy you lost your virginity to?

02:04:26.480 Yeah, we lost it to each other.

02:04:27.920 To each other, okay.

02:04:30.760 Does he pay you child support?

02:04:32.600 Is he in the picture?

02:04:33.560 He's in the picture.

02:04:34.680 Well, you have an adult daughter or son?

02:04:39.120 I have two sons, yeah.

02:04:40.060 My 18-year-old just graduated high school in May, and I have a 16-year-old.

02:04:43.500 Yeah, if you're 37 and you were 18, so okay, yeah.

02:04:47.180 Yeah.

02:04:47.760 Oh, okay, so they're pretty much, and you have two sons.

02:04:50.580 Mm-hmm.

02:04:50.940 Okay, two sons, all right.

02:04:53.160 Okay. Planning for any more, or?

02:04:58.260 Not at the moment.

02:04:59.280 Not at the moment.

02:04:59.980 If it happens, it happens, but I want a daughter. 1.00

02:05:02.900 And you primarily date Asian guys, right? 1.00

02:05:05.600 That's right. My man is Asian.

02:05:07.420 Wait, actually?

02:05:08.000 How do you know?

02:05:09.040 Wait, seriously?

02:05:10.800 No.

02:05:11.300 Oh, okay.

02:05:12.180 No. 1.00

02:05:13.180 Latino? 1.00

02:05:13.580 He's a man of color. He's black.

02:05:15.640 Black man. 0.93

02:05:15.980 African-American, however you are, whatever. 0.99

02:05:17.380 Yeah, black. 0.74

02:05:17.940 Yeah. 0.98

02:05:20.140 And, okay.

02:05:21.580 Okay. What about interracial kids or black?

02:05:27.120 Yeah.

02:05:27.800 Okay. Just any other interracial marriages, relationships?

02:05:33.200 Got a couple of children, children. You got kids?

02:05:36.760 I got them, yeah.

02:05:37.580 What, your relationship status?

02:05:39.700 I am married and we were together, well, we've been together almost 13 years.

02:05:46.440 We have an 11-year-old. He's autistic.

02:05:48.880 he's got a lot of issues but brilliant in his own way I stay home with him I homeschool him

02:05:57.040 I take care of him every day I'm also cleared by the state of Arizona I'm a mandated court

02:06:03.240 reporter and I just got cleared to take and foster children so that's kind of where I'm at

02:06:08.200 I had a very hard time having babies so they are precious I had six miscarriages and I only gave

02:06:14.900 birth to three healthy children so um they are a gift you know um and you've been you were married

02:06:23.080 before is that correct i was we were together um 17 years we were married 16 he was bipolar

02:06:30.180 and um he didn't love me he just didn't love me came home one day and said i think you need to

02:06:38.740 find friends and he already had plenty. So he went his way and I went mine. Now you're current

02:06:47.140 and I have some more notes on this, but we'll get into that later. So, okay. You, you've been

02:06:52.080 married for 13 years. No, we've been, we've actually only been married one year, but we've

02:06:57.740 been together over 13 years. I see. Okay. Married one year, but together 13 years and you have one

02:07:02.820 kid with him. That's right. Any other kids or just my older two, they're grown. They're like,

02:07:07.880 And that's with your first husband?

02:07:09.780 They're like 23 and 20.

02:07:11.300 Okay, so two fathers total.

02:07:13.260 Mm-hmm.

02:07:13.800 Okay.

02:07:14.400 Now, you met your current husband while on a date with your ex-husband.

02:07:22.240 Is that correct?

02:07:23.640 Almost.

02:07:24.980 Oh, yeah.

02:07:25.800 Yeah, y'all see what you want to see.

02:07:27.700 Isn't that right?

02:07:28.320 So what happened was is my ex-husband loved to go to the bar and karaoke,

02:07:33.180 and we walked in and unbeknownst to me the lady that he fed money to for us to go singing

02:07:39.280 just happened to have her son in there and I get when I used to drink a lot right this is over 13

02:07:48.360 years ago but when I used to drink a lot I used to grab all the little pieces of paper and just

02:07:52.860 write Jenny on all of them so when a song hit me I could just run right it's so smart I would run

02:07:58.700 to the table and write the song down before I forgot it and go turn it in and when we walked

02:08:04.200 in the door my ex-husband turned around looked at me he says you're kind of guy isn't it

02:08:07.540 and mistaken him for being a partier and what he saw isn't what he was and my husband is a gamer

02:08:16.660 I know exactly where he's at 24 7 he's always with our kid or he is at work and he's loyal and

02:08:23.380 he takes care of me when I had cancer and had to go through two different surgeries and lost

02:08:30.280 everything that made me let's try I'm sorry to interrupt but we need can like you got to be

02:08:36.960 concise here with the just so okay so yeah he uh he gave my phone number to the guy I'm married to

02:08:44.300 now my husband wrote my phone number down and handed it to his mama that's how we ended up

02:08:50.280 together cute not wild so okay so you you were out with your husband yes at the time and then

02:09:00.080 your current guy your current husband who you've been with for 13 years was there he was there

02:09:06.460 so you met your current husband while with your ex-husband and your ex-husband gave your number

02:09:15.700 Ted

02:09:17.340 You want to go one step further

02:09:19.780 I wasn't supposed to be there that Wednesday night

02:09:22.280 Because my husband took his girlfriends out

02:09:24.520 On Friday nights

02:09:25.600 I was supposed to be at home

02:09:26.900 I was the only one working

02:09:28.380 So I wasn't supposed to be there

02:09:31.200 Can you tell us the story one more time

02:09:33.300 With the soundtrack

02:09:33.920 Which part

02:09:36.520 The whole thing

02:09:38.260 I do not want to go through the whole thing

02:09:39.940 The quick thing

02:09:40.800 My husband and I walk into a bar

02:09:44.100 With a friend of ours

02:09:45.680 He sees a guy standing off to the side and says, hey, that's your kind of guy.

02:09:51.260 And I was like, maybe.

02:09:53.140 And I'm sipping his Everclear because he's bipolar.

02:09:55.860 Everclear.

02:09:57.080 Everclear.

02:09:57.660 In his pocket, he would drink three a night.

02:10:01.060 So I was drinking my drink and sipping on his.

02:10:04.360 And I'm singing.

02:10:05.240 I don't even know what's going on.

02:10:07.220 I'm singing.

02:10:07.820 I'm doing my thing.

02:10:08.800 And he just passed it on.

02:10:11.720 And he's like, oh, he's going to be a player.

02:10:14.780 Yeah, he played video games.

02:10:16.480 He don't play games. 0.99

02:10:18.080 I wish my, like, if I was on a date with a girlfriend, she'd be like, hey, you see that girl? 1.00

02:10:24.780 She seems like your type. 1.00

02:10:25.920 Yeah, let me give you, let me give her the number. 1.00

02:10:29.780 And see how it backfired?

02:10:31.340 See how it backfired on him?

02:10:33.680 Yeah, why not?

02:10:34.600 I've done that before.

02:10:35.360 Like, I get to keep both, though.

02:10:37.520 You don't get to keep both.

02:10:38.640 You never get to keep both.

02:10:40.100 You never get to keep both. 0.81

02:10:41.800 You would do a poly?

02:10:43.820 uh i would have multiple i would i would have like 20. all guys would if they if you could

02:10:50.440 i mean if guys could they would realistically though realistically no realistically no but um

02:10:57.540 no i i i joke but i mean you know maybe you could have a a compound and here's this house 0.93

02:11:05.360 and then she pumps out that only works for elon they do that and then this house over here she

02:11:10.260 pumps out another seven kids in this house over here she pumps out another seven sounds kind of 0.82

02:11:15.660 nice that sounds annoying as shit and stressful it sounds yeah that's too much juggling i need 0.71

02:11:23.280 to have one primary one that's that's the uh uh the main like the holly the main that cracks the 0.98

02:11:30.400 whip that's what i'm saying you need a female advisor an og yes sure sober female advisor

02:11:38.800 They're telling you how to – I'm going to be your – yes. 1.00

02:11:41.080 You can be the wrangler for my three wives or whatever.

02:11:45.460 I got you. 0.74

02:11:46.240 Great.

02:11:46.900 All right.

02:11:47.200 Okay.

02:11:47.600 So, okay.

02:11:48.120 That's everyone's relationships.

02:11:49.120 Why don't we get into – let's do some disagreements.

02:11:55.900 Let's see if there's any just on here.

02:11:59.260 Okay.

02:12:00.720 Trice.

02:12:01.480 Yes.

02:12:01.840 My name is Trice.

02:12:03.800 I'm just going to call you prettier because I can't –

02:12:05.700 That's cool.

02:12:06.960 Actually, no. 1.00

02:12:07.540 Fuck that. 1.00

02:12:07.940 Trice. 1.00

02:12:08.800 attitude towards women uh okay so what's your disagreement i guess i didn't like how when we

02:12:16.000 came in here you were very passive aggressive passive no i was just aggressive yeah you were

02:12:21.920 very aggressive did you see my story i said he irritated already this is gonna be interesting

02:12:25.940 yeah you were just you were not polite i was i don't even think you spoke to us i didn't like

02:12:31.980 that it was the perfume it was the perfume oh yeah somebody came in i don't know who it is you guys

02:12:37.160 wouldn't admit to it we tell you not to wear perfume and somebody came in smelling like a 0.99

02:12:41.840 fucking whorehouse not gonna lie it was so terrible but anyways yeah you're right i'm a 0.99

02:12:47.040 dick anyways next at least you admitted it yeah yeah well also just fucking not that it's any of 0.99

02:12:53.540 your guys's fault we had so many people flake today and so this is a very small panel uh and 0.98

02:13:00.200 the circumstances under which they flaked were frustrating not your guys's fault but obviously

02:13:04.220 that's going to just be sure make me frustrated that makes sense i said that to everyone yeah 0.97

02:13:09.360 makes sense podcast and it's like shit sometimes that affects your mood i didn't take it personal

02:13:15.400 you're actually a really cool guy yeah yeah i'm usually more chill after the show but um before 0.92

02:13:20.720 the show it's kind of stressful to yeah you're juggling a lot and people are flaking out because

02:13:25.240 they got to go to a stupid party it's not your guys you guys were all on time and super respectful 0.96

02:13:29.800 So, um, no, it's just, it's very frustrating when, uh, you know, it's like, it's disrespectful. 1.00

02:13:38.000 It's disrespectful.

02:13:39.260 So you were disrespected, especially day of, you know, it's, it's going to cause us problems

02:13:44.520 if you cancel the day before, but at least then we have an opportunity to try to fix

02:13:49.420 it.

02:13:49.760 But if you cancel a few hours before the show, it kind of fucks us over a little bit.

02:13:54.140 So I was pretty frustrated by that.

02:13:55.500 um we we like to have fuller panels not your guys's fault but i was a bit frustrated and we're 0.98

02:14:01.620 cool with it because we get more airtime shit fuck them that is true actually that is a benefit 0.96

02:14:06.620 for you guys so anyways um okay anything else um yeah i do think that um you're very you're very 0.99

02:14:13.640 harsh on women as far as like being very judgmental okay um i think you stereotype certain

02:14:19.420 types of women sure so like for example when you brought up my of you said something about chivalry

02:14:24.580 as if 0.99

02:14:26.480 women do certain things 1.00

02:14:29.480 that they don't deserve chivalry 1.00

02:14:31.360 from men. Yeah, that's correct. And it's not

02:14:33.260 correct. I'm going to be honest with you.

02:14:35.280 My culture is different

02:14:37.280 from yours, right? Which culture? 0.99

02:14:39.240 Being a black woman. I'm African-American.

02:14:42.020 You might be.

02:14:43.020 My dad was born in Africa. My mom was born in America.

02:14:45.660 Quit lying. No, it's true.

02:14:47.720 So technically, I'm African-American. 0.99

02:14:49.180 But jokes aside, you're right. I'm not black. 0.94

02:14:51.080 I would say the urban

02:14:52.260 people of color culture.

02:14:55.140 So like I said...

02:14:56.420 Wait, I grew up in the mean streets of Santa Barbara. 1.00

02:14:59.700 No, this shit is nice as hell. 1.00

02:15:01.240 In Montecito, Santa Barbara, 1.00

02:15:03.620 mean streets.

02:15:04.700 You grew up here?

02:15:06.000 I'm from the mean streets of Santa Barbara.

02:15:09.320 Okay?

02:15:10.000 Dang.

02:15:11.260 I grew up in the streets.

02:15:13.940 The streets.

02:15:15.000 I didn't grow up in the streets either.

02:15:17.660 I understand. Different culture.

02:15:19.860 To my point.

02:15:20.300 so well I am I've told y'all like I'd be finessing so I don't really be doing nothing on the fans but 0.69

02:15:25.460 you kind of stereotype me as if I did you know what I'm saying so not because you're black though

02:15:29.880 well no it's because I'm a woman and I'm on a certain platform but I made the correlation to

02:15:34.880 your paid subscription and my and only fans pay subscription you don't have to it doesn't have to

02:15:40.100 be what everybody else is doing I've never done any type of sex work in my life but I I deserve

02:15:44.640 chivalry because of how I carry myself how I present myself so nobody ever comes up to me

02:15:49.340 they're never disrespectful you know i i get treated with the utmost respect because of how

02:15:54.160 i carry myself so because of how i carry myself i deserve chivalry now if i presented myself a

02:15:59.060 different way just like them you know like unless unless they degrade themselves or unless they act

02:16:05.940 in a way to where a man doesn't want to treat them with respect or be a gentleman or whatever

02:16:10.680 then you know so it's just like you can't say that a woman doesn't deserve chivalry because

02:16:15.480 yeah sure well i guess two questions for you you you said that i i wanted to narrow in on what you

02:16:22.240 said there with the different culture so what do you mean what's what is the what do you mean by

02:16:28.420 that well so like to me like um like being thick that's that's like a part of my culture like it's 0.98

02:16:34.520 a thing you know there's thick white girls well i mean it's not like y'all y'all like big boobs 1.00

02:16:39.180 Big boobs? 1.00

02:16:40.440 White people are like, can you agree? 1.00

02:16:42.580 Y'all are not going to get BBLs and shit. 1.00

02:16:45.780 There's white women with some BBLs. 1.00

02:16:47.760 They do, but I'm saying, I was the only black family. 0.58

02:16:50.340 Did you have a BBL?

02:16:51.460 I did get one.

02:16:52.120 You got a BBL?

02:16:52.700 Yeah, I did get one.

02:16:53.540 What's that song, BBL?

02:16:55.300 Wait, Drake?

02:16:56.520 Wait, BBL Drizzy?

02:16:57.680 Or wait, what's that?

02:16:58.340 You know the song?

02:16:59.740 I don't know.

02:17:00.380 Chat, chat.

02:17:01.380 It's like, BBL.

02:17:03.340 No?

02:17:04.140 Anyways.

02:17:05.140 Wait, so you got BBL?

02:17:06.440 You got BBL?

02:17:06.900 Yeah, I did get one.

02:17:07.380 Lipo?

02:17:07.960 Yeah. 0.95

02:17:08.200 fake titties no how many bbls have you had just one just one but like but like what's that 0.95

02:17:16.220 what's the bbl got to do with well i'm trying to tell you if you stop you you're breaking your own 0.93

02:17:20.760 rules it's okay i'm sorry it's okay but okay like like for example so what what what my culture

02:17:28.340 would buy into me on only fans like that's what they like it i don't have to get naked 0.99

02:17:32.160 I don't like black culture is they like they like BBLs they like they they fantasize a woman that 1.00

02:17:38.680 looks like you know a certain thing you know I'm saying like so people would subscribe to see me 1.00

02:17:44.120 listen in a bikini in jeans and stuff like that but that doesn't mean that because guess what

02:17:49.520 she might do that on her story for free I know some brothers I know some brothers who I understand

02:17:57.760 what you're saying. You're saying the brother's like

02:17:59.620 a girl who 1.00

02:18:01.080 pack much back. 0.90

02:18:06.140 Sir Mix-a-Lot.

02:18:07.160 Hence the song, Baby Got Back.

02:18:09.520 Who got back, right? I understand that.

02:18:12.220 But look, there's also brothers

02:18:13.740 who will

02:18:15.620 you know, they're okay with 1.00

02:18:17.680 a little skinny girl. 1.00

02:18:20.280 You know, you can still be

02:18:21.240 you know, look, what's the Sir Mix-a-Lot

02:18:23.960 as

02:18:24.960 the

02:18:25.600 i don't know i don't know where i'm going with this but um okay so there's the culture component

02:18:31.820 but wait was that because you were relating that to my comments about chivalry i was trying to

02:18:36.540 finish and you kept interrupting me so i'm sorry it's okay i'm sorry i'm so basically what i'm

02:18:42.280 saying like okay that that is okay in my culture like they're they're not they don't feel the way

02:18:48.120 what is okay in your culture like like like you know like you might want to you know do a little

02:18:52.940 twerk or something like that like that's part of our culture it's not a part of white people 0.99

02:18:56.380 culture that's black people shit so men men want to see that oh no you know what i'm saying wait i 0.99

02:19:02.580 feel like so they wouldn't look at that some men some men don't look at that as oh she doesn't 1.00

02:19:07.540 deserve chivalry oh okay i i see i get what you're saying yeah and i date i date within my culture

02:19:14.960 wait but i feel like you're almost being more racist towards black people with what you just

02:19:22.300 said you just said part of black culture is twerking that is that is a that is like a part

02:19:30.060 of our like community that like a lot of people in our community do that that comes from that

02:19:33.900 comes from africa so a lot of like if you if you subscribe to certain channels you will see

02:19:38.960 uh people in different cultures and traditions they do certain traditional twerk dances and

02:19:44.560 stuff like that so like if you were to go to black parties black families like that that's a part of 0.69

02:19:49.440 our culture that's how we dance you probably wouldn't understand it because you didn't grow up 0.81

02:19:53.520 in a black household black functions and stuff like that but that's yeah but twerking is a very 0.72

02:19:58.480 hold on what were people were black people twerking 40 50 60 70 80 years ago this is like a 0.53

02:20:05.380 new development in supposed black culture in africa i mean it wasn't called twerking but it

02:20:11.140 It was, you know, twerking wasn't labeled twerking forever.

02:20:17.660 Look, as someone who has at least one black friend. 0.94

02:20:23.060 You're the guy with the one black friend.

02:20:24.280 I got one black friend. 0.94

02:20:25.200 Come on. 0.95

02:20:26.480 I almost take, I, look, some people are racist.

02:20:31.900 I want to be optimistic about black people, about African Americans.

02:20:37.220 i almost think that the say intellectual black folk folks folks i don't know what you guys i

02:20:46.300 don't know the term you all use would find it offensive that you say that black culture is

02:20:53.540 twerking i want to be well you said twerking is a part of black culture i want to be more

02:20:59.560 optimistic and more have a more positive sentiment towards black people i think

02:21:06.160 the to say that twerking now look twerking i suppose you could say is uh downstream of black

02:21:15.580 culture but to that's the thing you go to like when you talk about black culture we're talking

02:21:22.840 about twerking and bbls we were talking about social media we were talking about dating am i

02:21:27.960 more racist i almost want to reject your framework that oh my god okay that you put my words well

02:21:33.840 hold on but i want to reject your framework of black culture so you're saying black culture is 0.97

02:21:38.540 twerking bbls and thick women i didn't say i want to be like no black people you're better than that

02:21:45.860 i didn't say that i view black people as higher than that and you should aspire to more than that 0.87

02:21:55.920 we're not i almost feel like but i almost feel like that's a less racist position okay so what's

02:22:03.160 the topic we were just talking about if we were talking about food if we were talking about

02:22:07.040 education i would have mentioned plenty of other things i didn't say black culture is work and i

02:22:11.940 said that that is something that is a part of black culture i said because the topic that we 0.98

02:22:16.920 were on is dating chivalry why don't y'all reject that shit though why don't we reject what like the 1.00

02:22:23.380 the twerking and the the you know what i mean no why don't y'all reject the fake titties you 1.00

02:22:29.960 don't say why don't y'all reject the incest why don't y'all reject yeah okay i'm saying because 0.95

02:22:36.520 you want to you're trying to be funny you're trying to be funny no i'm not trying to be funny 0.59

02:22:40.700 well no i well you said that i said black culture is twerking i didn't say that well no that's

02:22:44.940 obviously that that's one example that you provided you didn't say hey what is black

02:22:49.940 culture and i said twerking i was talking about that was the first that was the first thing that

02:22:54.540 and i was trying to explain and you didn't really ever let me fully explain so like you kind of took

02:22:59.520 that little piece and you kind of but okay you said okay this conversation stems from you said

02:23:06.360 hey brian you can't really understand uh because we're talking about chivalry and who deserves

02:23:12.560 chivalry and you're saying well in my culture these things that brian from your white lens

02:23:18.340 make a woman less deserving of chivalry so my arguments are when women are like degenerate or

02:23:24.020 modern or sex workers or do only fans that's kind of where it stemmed from and then you're saying 0.95

02:23:29.400 well culturally if i understand you correctly culturally you're saying black culture is more

02:23:35.400 accepting of some of these things and i would i almost want to reject that and have a more

02:23:41.860 optimistic view of what black culture i do online i said i said because you kind of made a

02:23:48.340 generalized statement about certain women that do sex work on only fans and stuff like that i said

02:23:52.860 i'm not a part of the sex worker community i'm talking about what i do because you you said that

02:23:58.000 i don't deserve chivalry because of what i post online yeah i said okay what i do the most that i

02:24:03.820 do is twerk so in my community because i date inside my community now um what i do community

02:24:10.620 the black community your black culture african-american men black culture yes and so they 0.98

02:24:14.980 don't look at somebody uh twerking right we're not talking about somebody that's having sex online 0.99

02:24:21.560 getting naked would you twerk in a church well we're not we're not talking about church we're 0.98

02:24:26.220 dating no no i understand that don't ever let me finish though so do you want me to finish well i

02:24:31.220 mean okay you got what i was saying was i date within my community so they're there i always

02:24:36.880 get treated with chivalry because nobody looks

02:24:38.880 at me doing a little twerk

02:24:40.940 online as me

02:24:42.660 disrespecting myself, me degrading myself

02:24:45.060 because that's just

02:24:46.440 because how us 1.00

02:24:48.800 black women twerk, that's 1.00

02:24:50.840 how we dance. But there are 1.00

02:24:52.740 black people who are going to be like... There are kids 1.00

02:24:54.780 that twerk at black functions, you know what I'm saying? 0.95

02:24:57.140 But 0.98

02:24:57.420 that's what I'm saying, like, I don't know.

02:25:00.600 But I don't think, first off

02:25:02.880 there's obviously, like, not all black

02:25:04.720 people are going to agree with your position. 0.83

02:25:06.360 there's probably there there's going to be black people who are going to reject your framing

02:25:10.860 that like you know what twerking is okay so what so what culture is twerking a part of please let

02:25:19.140 me know i didn't say that black culture is you suggest that i didn't say black culture is well

02:25:24.880 black culture is more than exactly but i never said that you didn't say you never asked me hey

02:25:30.740 what is black culture my response was not oh it's twerking you i was no you gave it yeah no

02:25:36.020 you gave it as one example 0.82

02:25:38.140 I'm not, hold on, I'm not trying to make it

02:25:40.600 all, the only

02:25:42.680 component of black culture 1.00

02:25:44.360 is twerking

02:25:45.560 that was the first thing you alluded to

02:25:48.400 when I was asking what's the difference in the culture

02:25:50.640 and you said, well, twerking

02:25:51.980 no, that's not what happened

02:25:54.300 that's exactly right

02:25:55.980 does anybody else here want to

02:25:58.160 did I say that 1.00

02:26:00.380 black culture is twerking 1.00

02:26:01.720 she was 0.96

02:26:04.060 saying that

02:26:05.380 you're saying about the OnlyFans

02:26:08.680 and that, she's saying it's more prevalent

02:26:10.720 in her culture, and I know

02:26:12.780 where it comes from, tribal dances and things

02:26:14.680 like that, I think that people have

02:26:16.540 exploited it, you know 0.98

02:26:18.200 black people and white people have 0.99

02:26:20.260 exploited the 0.85

02:26:22.480 act of twerking, and made it

02:26:24.520 like super raunchy, you know, having to just

02:26:26.420 relate to sex completely, but what

02:26:28.520 she's saying is like, it's, yeah, it is

02:26:30.740 primarily in like the

02:26:32.420 African American sector, I guess you

02:26:34.600 okay but i don't understand if we're talking about chivalry if we're if we're gonna have 0.86

02:26:39.420 talk about chivalry even if i yeah okay fine you said that uh twerking is more prevalent

02:26:44.740 that's what she said what i'm saying is that's that's all i have done like that's that's the

02:26:50.820 that's the that's the most ratchet i get on only fans i don't most ratchet most ratchet you get

02:26:57.200 no if if you because that's how you're looking at it if you do anything ratchet you don't deserve

02:27:02.340 chivalry but that's but but that's what i'm saying the reason why you look at certain platforms a

02:27:08.180 certain way because you assume that people do certain things right because that's how you're

02:27:13.140 looking at it is a white man so what i'm saying is in my culture if a woman is twerking right

02:27:19.840 she's not naked you know i'm saying she's not she's not being like overly sexual that's not

02:27:25.700 looked at as oh she doesn't deserve chivalry you might view that because you're a white man 1.00

02:27:30.240 But that's just how certain women dance. 1.00

02:27:31.980 There's certain circumstances to where, you know what I'm saying, like, but you just wouldn't get it. 1.00

02:27:36.440 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:27:36.760 But I never said that, oh, black culture is twerking. 1.00

02:27:39.020 I said that's a part of the culture that I date. 1.00

02:27:40.740 I bet. 1.00

02:27:41.040 So men wouldn't look at a woman who is twerking. 1.00

02:27:45.440 You know, she's not having, she's not, you know, doing porn and stuff like that. 1.00

02:27:48.700 They wouldn't look at that as, oh, she doesn't deserve shit. 0.99

02:27:50.640 But do you think black elders view twerking as something that's positive or negative? 0.99

02:27:57.180 I mean, we're not talking about that, but I'm going to be honest with you.

02:27:59.460 But at family functions, there are some older people that they encourage to go out there, baby, do your little dance.

02:28:04.880 That's just how we are at our functions.

02:28:07.400 But you wouldn't understand that.

02:28:09.640 What am I failing to understand because I'm white?

02:28:13.140 Because you don't have a, you don't, your family doesn't get together and y'all don't dance how we dance.

02:28:19.860 Well, I understand that cultures dance differently and so forth.

02:28:24.080 But twerking, especially doing so, I mean, when you twerk, you do so like privately.

02:28:30.240 Privately and publicly.

02:28:31.160 You take twerking videos, and are you wearing something that is a bit revealing when you do so?

02:28:37.680 Yeah, like probably some underwear, some jeans.

02:28:40.480 Some underwear.

02:28:40.860 It could be jeans, it could be in a dress. 1.00

02:28:42.180 And that underwear is pulled up tight, and your pussy lips are popping out of the underwear, and if the fabric moved over one inch to the left, I would see your butthole. 1.00

02:28:52.960 But people don't see my butthole. 1.00

02:28:54.640 They don't see the butthole, but if it moved over one inch to the left, they would. 0.99

02:28:57.640 But it doesn't. 0.62

02:28:57.980 But would they see the butthole? 0.74

02:28:59.160 But it doesn't answer the question. 0.94

02:29:01.320 That's what makes the difference, right? 1.00

02:29:03.280 So the difference would be if somebody had their asshole out online. 1.00

02:29:06.920 Do you get what I'm saying? 0.99

02:29:08.900 So there are people who have.

02:29:10.360 There are.

02:29:10.980 You get what I'm saying?

02:29:11.700 Have you ever twerked in a G-string and posted it on OnlyFans?

02:29:15.720 Yeah. 1.00

02:29:17.600 I don't care if you're white. 1.00

02:29:18.280 But you don't see my asshole. 1.00

02:29:19.700 I don't care if you're black, white, purple, green. 1.00

02:29:22.940 People do that on Instagram.

02:29:24.500 Do people not do that on Instagram?

02:29:26.860 It doesn't matter.

02:29:28.080 That is my point. 1.00

02:29:29.160 they hoes guess what what's your definition of a hoe somebody who sleeps well i'm using i'm using 1.00

02:29:34.580 the term hoe in a hyperbolic sort of way but like a hoe is just like uh someone who's either 0.99

02:29:39.540 promiscuous or somebody who you can you can be a hoe in how you dress no yes yes um but also just 0.99

02:29:47.340 your general sort of behavior posting in being nearly naked twerking and posting that shit on 1.00

02:29:54.320 only fans so men can send you money and masturbate to your content that's sex work you don't deserve 1.00

02:30:00.520 people do it on instagram okay so the point is if those people are not smart enough to twerk on 0.99

02:30:07.100 only fans that is let me let me get in here for a second that is one thing let me get in here so 1.00

02:30:14.300 there's i'm not debating you that of course like women are posting this shit on free platforms 1.00

02:30:20.980 They're posting it on Instagram, on Twitter, they're going to post it on Facebook, they're going to post it on MySpace, they're going to post it on any fucking platform there is. 0.99

02:30:27.940 The debate is not about which platform it's being posted on.

02:30:30.840 It's the fact that the content exists, but the platform you're posting it on does create an addition. 0.68

02:30:36.960 Like, for example, if a woman worked in a brothel and she just, like, left it at that, I would assume she's a prostitute. 0.98

02:30:47.120 Now, of course, it's logically possible a woman could work in a brothel, and she's like the cleaning lady or some shit. 0.99

02:30:52.980 But that's the definition of a brothel. 0.98

02:30:54.720 The definition of certain platforms is not just that.

02:30:57.820 Right, but if, okay, do you agree with me that OnlyFans has a stigma?

02:31:04.160 Just like white men have a stigma, black women have a stigma, X has a stigma, every platform has a stigma. 0.60

02:31:11.060 But does OnlyFans have a reputation for being a platform for sex work? 0.93

02:31:16.080 That doesn't matter. 1.00

02:31:17.120 It has a reputation because there are sex workers on there. 0.99

02:31:20.480 But guess what?

02:31:21.080 If you go on OnlyFans and you read their description, there are TV shows on OnlyFans that don't have nudity.

02:31:26.880 They don't have sex. 0.87

02:31:28.180 It's a sex worker platform. 1.00

02:31:29.760 It doesn't matter. 0.58

02:31:30.600 It's not a sex worker platform. 1.00

02:31:31.340 It's a sex worker platform.

02:31:32.360 If you go to OnlyFans and say, hey, is this a sex worker platform, they're going to say no.

02:31:36.340 You know what?

02:31:38.560 I can upload this podcast to Pornhub.

02:31:41.200 Does that mean that Pornhub isn't a porn platform?

02:31:44.260 It doesn't matter.

02:31:44.940 But guess what?

02:31:45.440 I wouldn't screw up.

02:31:46.320 for getting your money for finessing.

02:31:48.520 You know what? I can upload video game.

02:31:50.980 Do you see my point?

02:31:52.580 If you upload this

02:31:54.540 on Pornhub and you make money, I'm going to say

02:31:56.620 congratulations. You should be from St. Louis

02:31:58.760 because you're a finesser.

02:32:00.000 If there is a platform online...

02:32:01.520 This is my thing.

02:32:04.380 I know I'm an attractive woman. I know I'm beautiful.

02:32:06.240 I know I have a nice body.

02:32:07.560 I know people want to see it.

02:32:10.060 I know people want to see me do more. I'm never going to do more.

02:32:12.860 But guess what? If I know that they're going to

02:32:14.420 spend their coin i'm gonna put myself on the platform where there's youtube of whatever it

02:32:20.200 doesn't mean that i'm a sex worker that's not that's not the point in any case but the point

02:32:24.360 was you said because i'm on the if a woman is on that platform she doesn't deserve yeah but let's

02:32:29.420 not you're not exactly making like cooking videos on there you are engaging i would i actually plan 0.68

02:32:35.260 to you're engaging in sex work on the platform it's not sex okay no it is sex work and here's 0.91

02:32:41.820 So, okay, if you are generating revenue, like if your content is produced with the sort of understanding that this content is specifically essentially made for men to masturbate and come to, then you're basically a sex worker. 0.90

02:32:56.300 But it's not because guess what? 0.72

02:32:57.620 Some people are fans and they want to support, which is why I got on the platform.

02:33:01.640 There are a lot of people that...

02:33:02.780 They're fans?

02:33:03.820 Hell yeah.

02:33:04.740 I do music.

02:33:05.640 I have a big platform as well.

02:33:07.240 There are people who are fans of me that...

02:33:09.160 But they can listen to your music on YouTube.

02:33:10.760 You know what Instagram does?

02:33:12.580 You know what Instagram does to me?

02:33:13.780 Tell me what they do.

02:33:14.580 I don't talk about. 1.00

02:33:16.220 Tell me how Instagram keeps the black woman down. 1.00

02:33:19.660 Well, I don't know about that, but I know about me, right?

02:33:22.120 Because I am curvy.

02:33:23.500 They're keeping me down, Instagram.

02:33:24.820 Because, no, I'm going to tell you.

02:33:26.280 Tell me.

02:33:26.660 TikTok banned me because I wore tan pants.

02:33:31.160 I'm too curvy.

02:33:31.880 You're too thick.

02:33:32.440 Exactly.

02:33:33.460 Facebook does the same thing.

02:33:34.580 You know what? TikTok's fucking racist. 1.00

02:33:36.220 They are. 1.00

02:33:36.700 We're going to team up because TikTok's been fucking with me, too. 0.99

02:33:39.420 I'm not teaming up with you. 1.00

02:33:40.200 The white man and the black woman are going to team up. 0.99

02:33:44.740 No, hey, we're going to team up, and we're going to take down. 0.99

02:33:46.940 If you're serious, I will.

02:33:48.840 I'm serious. 0.99

02:33:49.380 But I ain't fucking with you right now. 1.00

02:33:50.400 You don't fuck with me? 1.00

02:33:50.900 I ain't fucking with you right now. 1.00

02:33:51.700 I thought we fucked. 1.00

02:33:52.500 No. 0.99

02:33:53.120 But let me tell you, Instagram, and that's the reason why I didn't.

02:33:56.780 No, because you play too much.

02:33:58.140 Yeah.

02:33:58.340 I am not playing. 1.00

02:34:01.080 That black culture is twerking. 1.00

02:34:02.260 I'm not playing. 1.00

02:34:02.800 But no, let me tell you.

02:34:03.340 Let me finish telling you.

02:34:04.540 The reason why I'm on there, because social media platforms, they stereotype me.

02:34:10.200 When I post myself, I could be fully clothed, jeans, because of my shape.

02:34:15.780 They will take my videos down.

02:34:18.040 They will say, sir, they will say that I am soliciting people, right?

02:34:22.020 I shoot music videos, right?

02:34:23.480 So when people inquire about booking or being on my podcast, I send them a price list.

02:34:27.540 It has nothing about sex, dates, or anything.

02:34:29.640 You know what they'll do?

02:34:30.740 They will restrict my account.

02:34:32.280 They will delete the message if they do all these things.

02:34:34.540 That's terrible.

02:34:35.820 Exactly.

02:34:36.380 Because I'm a black woman, I look this way.

02:34:38.300 And it's AI. 0.98

02:34:39.040 the ai is fucking everything up so i don't even have a leg to stand on so what i do is i take 0.97

02:34:44.340 myself to a platform that has no filter that doesn't matter what i look like if i can post 0.95

02:34:49.820 myself in my jeans i can post myself in my bikini just because i'm if i posted a picture of myself

02:34:55.380 in a string bikini right now right on instagram my page is going to get banned my really i have

02:35:01.140 this is a brand new page that i have yes yes that's messed up because i see people doing that

02:35:06.040 all the time but you see my point so people want to see me because i'm beautiful and i have a nice

02:35:10.600 body so if i put myself on a platform like only fans go get your money just get it yeah and i 0.84

02:35:15.840 post the same shit that i okay are you paying attention to me no she i'm of course okay so 0.71

02:35:22.120 so if i post the same things on only fans that other people can post on instagram 0.98

02:35:28.240 i will get paid for you get i'm saying i'll get paid for it my page won't get banned now if i

02:35:33.360 could post myself in a string bikini or some tan pants on tiktok and instagram and get paid like

02:35:39.540 everybody else i would do that but i can't because these platforms they stereotype me they they flag

02:35:44.300 me i don't want my page taken again you know what i'm saying so if i can get on only fans 0.96

02:35:48.780 that's bullshit yeah they do and so my shit is gets fucked up yeah so if i get on only fans and 0.99

02:35:54.440 i'm posting myself the same shit that i will post on instagram and y'all want to pay me because y'all 1.00

02:35:58.440 I think y'all are going to see some of this on y'all. 0.97

02:36:00.220 Okay, but so back to the main thing.

02:36:03.520 Look, my primary argument here is that, just to be clear, I'm not saying women should be disrespected or mistreated.

02:36:10.300 However, when it comes to chivalry, that's a very specific sort of treatment.

02:36:14.160 And I believe women should be ladylike in order to deserve chivalrous treatment.

02:36:19.060 you'll still now i fully acknowledge that women will still get the treatment even if they're not 0.99

02:36:25.480 ladylike or you know they're not moving in a traditional way you'll still get traditional

02:36:30.940 treatment from men which from like a bird's eye view down analytical uh framework that's 1.00

02:36:37.700 unfair and kind of bullshit but the world is unfair so women will still get traditional 0.96

02:36:44.480 treatment while they're not being traditional women. My argument is very simple. If you're 0.99

02:36:49.080 a woman and you want traditional treatment, the fair proposition is you should be a traditional 1.00

02:36:53.280 woman. But what I see is, is a lot of women who are not traditional in various ways, it could 1.00

02:36:59.980 either, they could either be sex workers or they could not be sex workers, but they're feminist or 0.97

02:37:04.380 they're not, maybe they're not necessarily fully feminist, but they're, they're moving in a way 0.92

02:37:08.480 that is not traditional. It could be promiscuity or it could just be their ideological, uh, 0.96

02:37:14.480 uh, their, their ideological, um, view, I guess. So if they're progressive, if they're

02:37:23.360 Democrat, uh, I, I mean, I guess this would all tie into feminism then. 1.00

02:37:28.660 What is feminism actually? Uh, feminism is, uh, primarily ugly women who hate men. 1.00

02:37:36.780 That's primarily it, but the, the more serious, as serious of a definition that you can give to 1.00

02:37:43.540 feminism because it's newer right it's like well feminism's been around for over 100 years but 0.99

02:37:48.780 uh i mean the the the serious definition of feminism would be well i have two so the first

02:37:57.260 one would be uh women's advocacy um period the second one would be women's advocacy plus

02:38:07.600 man-hating plus anti-male rhetoric that's my true sense of what feminism is okay so it's women's

02:38:17.380 advocacy plus uh and so they're pushing like the hatred of the just the males yeah as a whole

02:38:27.920 yeah demonization of men um essentially what what uh they're trying to do is um because they

02:38:35.440 keep perpetuating uh most of their their commonly cited statistics as to like the victimization of

02:38:43.940 women it's completely overinflated so when you present a like for example if i were to present

02:38:49.380 this to like a racial statistic being like and lying about it and saying like okay black people

02:38:54.740 commit like black people commit more percent of crimes or whatever but like not just i mean that

02:39:01.840 is factually true but that's a separate from the point um if i was going ahead on top of that so 1.00

02:39:07.940 it is true that men are commit more violent crimes right but what feminists do is they they completely 1.00

02:39:12.760 warp and misrepresent and like skew the data change the data um claim that like the the incidence rate 1.00

02:39:20.960 of victimization for women among certain crimes is way higher than it is this is going to create

02:39:26.940 like a panic in women that otherwise really doesn't need to exist. And then secondly,

02:39:32.000 it's going to create a much easier framework. Like if you say that this certain crime happens

02:39:37.580 one out of a hundred times as compared to one in four, one in three, one in two,

02:39:42.880 that basically creates exponentially more demonization of men. And so

02:39:53.500 uh feminism has a long history of completely like frauding their bullshit statistics um and then 1.00

02:40:02.580 just their entire their core structure the core structure of feminism it relies on this patriarchy 1.00

02:40:08.620 theory which basically posits that uh the story of his uh the story of history is one of gender 1.00

02:40:15.280 struggle basically it's like marxist ideology but for retarded feminists um the the instead of a 1.00

02:40:22.600 class struggle the story of history it's a gender struggle and it's the story of men as oppressor 0.95

02:40:28.740 as a class and women as oppressed as a class and so if you teach women hey 50 of the population

02:40:37.720 is evil and bad and they want to like keep you oppressed and they are the oppressor and you

02:40:45.160 are oppressed and you're disadvantaged in every possible way uh possible then yeah that's going

02:40:52.180 create massive amounts of resentment in women towards men um and uh there's i could go on and

02:41:00.100 and you can see that it's like amped up as the years go by it just gets like worse and worse

02:41:05.780 you think i mean i would say yeah in the past 10 years do you think that me too what do you think

02:41:11.380 about the me too movement that's all part of that i mean i think that's when it kind of started 0.99

02:41:16.100 getting even a little bit more kind of intense yeah well i think feminists at least somewhat 0.98

02:41:24.340 like 10 or 20 years ago at least somewhat attempted to hide their man hatred but now 0.97

02:41:30.340 they're pretty much it's completely masked off and um i mean uh you think it's rooted because

02:41:40.660 of their experience with say some bad ones and then they just well of course there's there's bad

02:41:46.960 people out there there's bad men there's bad women yeah sure um my my criticism of the well women

02:41:54.600 have and look i'm going to go ahead and say yeah women do have bad experiences with men we also

02:42:00.220 would have to examine what are the bad experiences that men have with women but that is often

02:42:04.640 overlooked i think the big thing here though is i kind of don't like that framework because we have

02:42:10.960 to treat people as individuals and so when and it's very easy to get caught up in that because

02:42:19.000 it gives you a an excuse for your shitty life um to to have an out group that you can blame for how 0.88

02:42:25.840 your life is a failure like a scapegoat essentially men are scapegoats for feminists but 0.97

02:42:30.640 But I reject it because if you reject women, or rather, if you accept women who say, well, I've had one, two, three, four, five bad experiences with men, more, less, whatever it is.

02:42:44.080 And so because I've had these bad experiences with men, and many times these experiences with men can be really bad.

02:42:50.700 Women can be victims of sexual crime.

02:42:52.740 They can be victims of assault, whatever.

02:42:55.100 So certainly women do and can be victimized by men in horrific ways.

02:43:01.400 However, if we accept that if I've been victim of a crime and the perpetrator was a man,

02:43:09.100 therefore I have some justification for my animosity towards men, my hatred towards men, 1.00

02:43:15.260 therefore it's justified, therefore it's warranted, 0.99

02:43:18.180 we're going to have to be willing to apply that same logic to the racial component too. 1.00

02:43:24.060 And that's where these people completely crumble because oftentimes feminists are liberal, woke-minded, and they're going to tell you racism is terrible. 1.00

02:43:32.580 Racism is one of the worst sins that you can commit, and I would tend to agree. 1.00

02:43:37.220 Well, it's not the worst thing, but racism is bad, right?

02:43:41.840 And so you would flip it on them and say, okay, well, say I've had one, two, or three bad experiences with a black person. 0.55

02:43:50.780 does this now give me justification to hate all black people that would be racism that would be 0.92

02:43:55.600 wrong right but then they can't quite they cannot um they can't separate that they can't reconcile 0.95

02:44:03.720 okay i feel i i hate men i dislike men because of my bad experiences with men but i would have

02:44:11.040 i would have a massive issue with a white person having racial uh animosity because they've had

02:44:18.240 bad experiences with a, say a black person, for example. So it's like hypocrisy is what you're 0.90

02:44:22.540 saying. Well, it's not necessary to some degree, a little bit, but, um, well, it would also be

02:44:30.220 hypocrisy because if a man were to say, um, I hate women because I've had one or two, two, 1.00

02:44:35.580 three bad experiences with women, women would rightly, uh, feminists would rightly say, 1.00

02:44:41.480 well, that's wrong. You shouldn't hate an entire group of people just because you've had one or 1.00

02:44:46.740 two, three bad experiences with a few of them, or even with a lot of them, you still, I don't think

02:44:52.480 it's fair. Yeah. I mean, that's, those are valid points. Thanks for explaining it.

02:44:59.460 So the same way, like, for example, I would reject the idea that if you, whatever race you are, but

02:45:06.420 like, just to use the, I guess the simple example, if you're a white person and you've had a bad

02:45:11.180 experience with a black person, I don't think that that should, that should not be your

02:45:15.520 justification to then become a racist and hate black people that's unfair you need to treat

02:45:20.120 people as individuals individuals in that same way then um women who've had bad experiences with men 0.90

02:45:25.800 you should not go on and hate hate men hate all men because of those bad experiences so do you

02:45:31.580 think that that's why women are feminist because they had bad experience with men or you don't

02:45:36.500 oftentimes they're looking at bigger issues like you know women weren't always um able to vote 0.99

02:45:40.980 women still don't get the same opportunities as men their wages are different when they have the

02:45:45.600 same job but me personally I'm not a feminist you know I'm saying but I'm just I'm just playing 0.95

02:45:50.300 well actually many many like feminists throughout history there's one feminist in particular I can't

02:45:56.320 actually remember her name but in some of her later work she actually admitted a feminist admitted 0.72

02:46:02.020 that she mostly just did it to annoy her father oh my gosh so a lot of and she admitted that she 0.54

02:46:07.740 had a poor relationship with her father um so i do actually think that a lot of these feminists 0.80

02:46:12.780 uh a lot of it is just due to um yes they're bad experiences with men not really um not really 1.00

02:46:22.420 due to any actual uh desire to actually see social change but rather to um sort of annoy men

02:46:32.240 but you know in your title for today's show yeah you said brian versus

02:46:39.320 and like number of feminists i just assume i guess i just assume all women are feminists 0.93

02:46:46.200 until proven otherwise but you know no then that's the hypocrisy right there

02:46:51.100 because i didn't even know the definition of it you know yeah i mean i'm being a bit 0.92

02:46:56.860 joking here i guess but do you know there are thousands of feminist organizations in the united

02:47:03.700 states who are fighting for the rights of women and there are only five organizations that fight

02:47:10.800 for the rights of men and despite that despite that you know women and men still date so they're

02:47:17.540 not doing such a good job you know however many there are uh well date and get married and have 1.00

02:47:24.980 children uh sure but what's yeah well my point is you're saying feminists feminists maybe some 1.00

02:47:32.360 women that you see on the surface who act like as you say feminists there is some number of them 0.98

02:47:38.800 but majority are not so the reason you're seeing them is because they're on social media they are

02:47:45.320 inadequate they're posting all kind of uh all kind of like crazy uh crazy video like to support

02:47:51.760 Lindsay Clancy or whatever it is like they're doing all this you know posting online and you're

02:47:59.560 seeing those crazy people uh exhibiting themselves and the reason you sort of associate all women 0.99

02:48:06.780 with them is because you know SHIT floats so they are on the surface that's what you see 0.99

02:48:12.680 uh well I mean here's the thing though is um I would say the majority of women are feminist 1.00

02:48:19.620 is the thing i i think so they didn't say something so i mean obviously there are women

02:48:25.380 who are not feminists and then there's going to be women who are degrees of feminist the desire

02:48:30.240 to have equal rights with men equal rights is not really a feminism it's just it's just the society

02:48:38.280 comes to a point when you just have no choice you just have to give of course well we always

02:48:47.800 have choices, but I mean, there is a component, though, and I know it's in your notes.

02:48:57.080 My, I actually am somewhat against universal suffrage. So what this means is some people

02:49:03.200 say repeal the 19th. They just want to get rid of women's right to vote. I actually am 0.83

02:49:09.520 a bit more interested in, you know.

02:49:14.160 I agree with you on that. I know what you're saying.

02:49:16.580 So, yeah, so I want to get rid of kind of, I want stakeholders to be able to vote, whether you're a woman, whether you're a man.

02:49:24.420 So you should be a net taxpayer.

02:49:26.300 If you're a burden to society in some way, I don't think you should be able to vote.

02:49:30.760 And if you're not contributing in some way now, you could do this in a couple different ways, like land ownership, something like that.

02:49:37.040 But I would say, like, net taxpayer, then you should be able to vote. 0.99

02:49:41.520 But if you're just, if you're fucking useless, you shouldn't be able to vote. 0.99

02:49:45.080 It's a conversation without representation, right? 0.99

02:49:47.340 So if you're paying taxes.

02:49:49.080 Yeah, but if you're, okay, but if you pay $1,000 in taxes,

02:49:53.160 but you take $10,000 a year in benefits, you're a negative.

02:49:57.200 That's net negative.

02:49:58.400 Net negative.

02:49:58.740 That's not, it's like I wouldn't consider it paying taxes.

02:50:03.680 I wouldn't consider it that someone contributed to society, right?

02:50:06.320 Okay, so you're saying net positive.

02:50:07.480 Net positive, of course.

02:50:08.900 So I would be in favor of a net positive system, which would, I mean, 1.00

02:50:13.980 more men are net positive 0.98

02:50:16.520 taxpayers than there are women. That's fine. But it's 1.00

02:50:18.460 not along the gender lines.

02:50:20.280 Yeah, it wouldn't be gendered. I wouldn't have any issue

02:50:22.380 with net positive female 1.00

02:50:24.440 taxpayers voting. Okay. 0.99

02:50:26.560 ID? Are you for a voter

02:50:28.480 like ID? Oh, of course. Yeah.

02:50:30.460 People who are against it are retarded. 1.00

02:50:33.420 Why should you not 1.00

02:50:34.520 have... You need an ID to buy

02:50:36.600 alcohol. Yes, for everything.

02:50:38.840 For everything. You need an ID

02:50:40.400 to...

02:50:42.320 How do you not have an ID?

02:50:44.200 So, of course, you need to have an ID.

02:50:45.960 And also, it's actually racist, the people who say, who are against it, because they're suggesting that, because they often argue, well, people of color would, it's harder for them to, no, hold on.

02:50:58.180 Black people, Latinos, they know how to get IDs.

02:51:01.600 Yeah. 0.93

02:51:02.100 Like, it's the bigotry of low expectations.

02:51:04.880 so the idea like all these democrats who say oh well people the people of color communities would

02:51:13.360 suffer because of voter id it's like wow that's super racist like so i don't know i guess it's

02:51:19.100 because i'm just gonna say i am part of the black community you're not so there's there are certain

02:51:23.780 things that i see in my community that are very unfair that you would never experience

02:51:26.920 so kind of like in the same way that you're saying oh only people that are net positive or

02:51:32.400 that contribute x amount should be able to vote but guess what everybody doesn't get the same

02:51:36.960 opportunity to become that so we're looking at education we're looking at um underserved

02:51:41.780 communities you know i'm saying like i have i have personally tried to help people who didn't

02:51:46.580 have an id at this born to you girl i'm just asking you want me to stop talking no it's just

02:51:53.080 yawning okay that was in the fake anyway so i personally tried to help someone get their id

02:51:59.720 So right now the real ID requirements are that you have your birth certificate, you have your social security card, or an insurance card and stuff like that.

02:52:07.860 So someone who is homeless that doesn't have these things, you can't go get your social security card because guess what?

02:52:13.020 You don't have your birth certificate or you don't have insurance, okay?

02:52:16.780 So then when you try to go get your birth certificate, you need your ID.

02:52:20.700 You need certain things.

02:52:21.960 So a person that's homeless or doesn't have the same opportunities, they're not able to get an ID as easily.

02:52:29.540 Yeah, I don't think homeless people should have.

02:52:31.020 Is it possible?

02:52:31.420 What's the point?

02:52:32.280 What's the point that you're trying to make?

02:52:33.740 Are you trying to make?

02:52:34.680 If you let me finish my point, I'm going to tell you my point.

02:52:37.580 Okay.

02:52:38.380 So let's just say.

02:52:40.240 Okay, I'll be up back.

02:52:41.200 You guys can.

02:52:42.200 Anyway, so let's just say.

02:52:44.300 You debate.

02:52:46.080 Let's just say that I have a name that society would deem as ghetto.

02:52:51.100 Let's say my name is LaKeisha Tana, right?

02:52:55.040 Let's just say your name is... 0.98

02:52:56.720 Didn't you just get on her about interrupting?

02:53:00.580 Yes, I got on her not about interrupting.

02:53:02.740 So if you be quiet, you can let me make my point.

02:53:04.660 I got on her about hijacking the conversation, hijacking, not interrupting.

02:53:09.100 If you're quiet, you can let me make my point.

02:53:11.420 Yeah, please.

02:53:12.020 So like I was saying, if you and I both apply to the same job,

02:53:15.300 and my name is LaTana Kia Jackson, and your name is Ashley Williams,

02:53:21.100 they're going to judge me they're going to say this is a black one they're going to give you the

02:53:25.900 job first I've seen it done firsthand I worked in corporate America for America for a very long time

02:53:30.320 and I was friends with people in higher levels and they will outright tell me that we because 0.90

02:53:35.280 we would have corporate parties they would be getting drunk doing coke and all that shit and

02:53:38.720 they were outright tell me yeah I didn't I didn't give her the job because well and they would laugh

02:53:42.900 about it I I literally I trained two of my cousins to work at my sales job I was making six figures

02:53:48.660 at my sales job i wanted to give one of my cousins an opportunity one of my cousins that was overly

02:53:53.660 qualified for the job did not get the call back from the interview but my other cousin did because 1.00

02:53:58.200 she was lighter skinned she had pretty eyes and she had that slim athletic body they called her

02:54:04.140 back for interview and i i told my cousin not to come because i'm like that's not fair so how can

02:54:08.500 you sit up here and hold everybody to the same standard when okay people and people in our

02:54:13.940 community are judged based off of our names off of things that they they can't help you can't help 0.86

02:54:19.160 what your parents name you but because your your name looks too ghetto you're not going to get the 0.58

02:54:23.040 call back for the interview so if you don't have an equal opportunity at certain jobs how can you 0.65

02:54:27.180 make a certain amount of money you know what i'm saying like so and this this is this is where my

02:54:31.660 community struggles with so i can speak about it okay let me ask you this question yeah you have 0.92

02:54:37.100 a lot of uh people who come from other countries immigrants do you think you have less opportunity 0.59

02:54:44.560 than someone who comes from a different country for example when i came in i did not speak english

02:54:50.320 at all at all and i had less opportunities than you did if you think about it there are many people

02:54:57.200 who don't speak language and they come in and they're still working and they're still making

02:55:01.780 it and they're not complaining complaining and they're not saying they were victims you know

02:55:06.580 Who is they, your people?

02:55:07.660 Because you can't speak. 1.00

02:55:08.840 No, I'm saying immigrants. 0.82

02:55:10.480 I have friends that are Mexican.

02:55:11.580 Guess what?

02:55:11.980 They have the same struggle because guess what? 1.00

02:55:14.760 The typical white man will look at a Mexican like they're dirty. 0.99

02:55:17.620 I've heard it out of my own mouth. 0.98

02:55:19.200 Like I said, I worked in corporate America close with the operations manager, the regional manager, and I've heard them say crazy things.

02:55:26.960 Yes, people are still, people are oppressed because of their skin color and their ethnicity.

02:55:31.900 It happens.

02:55:32.980 And so that's not just a handful of people.

02:55:34.940 That's a vast majority of people.

02:55:37.000 So people like Brian, he's a white man.

02:55:39.140 He's born with an advantage.

02:55:40.700 You get what I'm saying?

02:55:41.460 So he's going to get more opportunities because he's a white man versus me because I'm a black woman.

02:55:46.460 But you have your opportunities, don't you?

02:55:48.680 I do.

02:55:49.220 You have a lot of stuff going on for you, and that's great.

02:55:51.800 And let me tell you how I got my opportunity, right?

02:55:54.960 Not because of my education, not because I was qualified, because that wasn't my first six-figure job.

02:56:01.080 It was somebody introducing me to someone.

02:56:04.820 So that's what I'm saying.

02:56:07.380 Somebody probably missed out on the job opportunity that I had that deserved it more than me because they were stereotyped because of their name.

02:56:15.320 So my question to you is this.

02:56:17.760 Are you saying that people who get handouts from the government for whatever reason, me, I can get handouts from the government.

02:56:25.960 And if I do, you know, I shouldn't be voting because what I'm going or who I'm going to vote for are the people who are going to give me those handouts.

02:56:34.060 that is just it

02:56:35.620 because your interest is to get

02:56:38.220 more of it

02:56:38.920 if I were

02:56:42.200 getting handouts from the government

02:56:43.840 that would be my interest too

02:56:45.140 so I'm saying if I'm at that

02:56:47.760 position

02:56:49.660 I should not be voting

02:56:51.460 I don't agree with that because

02:56:53.180 there are a few different type of people

02:56:56.160 that get government assistance or handouts

02:56:58.300 as you call it

02:56:58.980 there are people that are working

02:57:01.820 They only can land a minimum wage paying job.

02:57:06.780 They have no support.

02:57:08.420 They're really trying, and they're just not making it, especially in this economy.

02:57:12.180 It's horrible, and those people do need government assistance, and guess what?

02:57:16.380 Those people, because I was one of them, okay, but what I did was I got government assistance, and what I did was I created opportunities for myself, but I didn't need it anymore.

02:57:24.780 Now, there are some people, the other people, who live off of it.

02:57:28.380 They abuse it.

02:57:29.120 They get on Section 8.

02:57:30.220 They don't plan on getting off of Section 8.

02:57:32.140 They keep having kids so they can get more tax money, you know, and all of those things.

02:57:36.380 Those are the people who don't contribute to society.

02:57:40.900 They're taking.

02:57:41.900 They don't plan on contributing.

02:57:43.240 They probably shouldn't vote.

02:57:44.500 And a lot of those people don't vote because they don't care until their benefits get taken.

02:57:49.780 Honestly, it doesn't matter what you and I are saying because nobody is going to repeal the 19th Amendment and nobody is going to change anything.

02:57:57.400 So we're just talking about it just for nothing, just to discuss.

02:58:04.520 But it's not going to change.

02:58:06.140 It's not going to change.

02:58:07.320 You've got to understand, it's a podcast.

02:58:08.960 These are controversial topics.

02:58:10.660 It's not going to change anything.

02:58:11.940 It's just entertainment.

02:58:13.700 But at the same time, how you and Brian just spoke about people who don't contribute X amount to society.

02:58:21.620 You're stereotyping everybody.

02:58:22.840 We said net, net.

02:58:25.040 If you contribute net to society, you have a stake in the country, and that's why you vote.

02:58:31.980 So how are you looking at it?

02:58:33.000 Annually?

02:58:34.140 Let's just say one year I was doing really good, not getting government.

02:58:37.220 If you draw out more than you contribute.

02:58:41.960 But this is what I'm saying.

02:58:42.780 So let's just say me right now, right?

02:58:44.200 I make well over six figures a year.

02:58:45.740 I have multiple businesses.

02:58:47.080 I'm doing really well for myself.

02:58:48.680 Let's just say I fall on hard times.

02:58:50.320 You never know what's going to happen tomorrow.

02:58:51.980 Let's just say I fall on hard times, and next year I need government assistance, and I'm just not making the money.

02:58:58.320 I'm having mental issues.

02:58:59.780 I'm going through depression.

02:59:01.360 So are you telling me that I shouldn't be able to vote?

02:59:03.940 Yes, that's what I'm telling you.

02:59:05.320 That's crazy, because guess what?

02:59:07.040 Something that I may vote for could change my circumstances.

02:59:11.320 Yes, you will get more handouts.

02:59:15.080 No, what I'm saying is, but that's what I'm saying.

02:59:18.180 That's crazy that you think that.

02:59:20.100 So basically you're telling me that.

02:59:21.520 You need to have some criteria.

02:59:22.920 You know, if you go for anecdotal evidence, what someone contributes or doesn't contribute,

02:59:29.520 and this person is doing this, and they're trying, and another person isn't doing,

02:59:34.920 you have to have a common rule.

02:59:37.080 Who's going to scale that, though?

02:59:38.740 You have to have a common rule that is applicable to everyone equally.

02:59:45.420 Because you don't have the time or the passion to scale every single person,

02:59:49.020 receive a government assistance.

02:59:50.280 I got to move things on a little bit here

02:59:55.680 but just really quick for you

02:59:57.260 you don't agree with the voter ID

03:00:01.360 no we weren't talking about that

03:00:03.540 I didn't say I didn't agree with that

03:00:07.040 what's your position on voter ID then

03:00:09.020 like she said

03:00:10.440 what's not going to happen

03:00:12.440 if you scale everyone's circumstances

03:00:14.820 as to why they don't have an ID

03:00:16.080 but that's not going to happen

03:00:18.300 what's not going to happen

03:00:21.040 Nobody's going to scale every individual individual circumstances to see why they're not paying a certain amount of tax and why they don't have an ID.

03:00:31.800 Okay, voter ID.

03:00:33.380 Okay, in order for people to vote, should they have to present an ID or have an ID?

03:00:39.560 I agree with that, but what I also do think that there should be rules to that, right?

03:00:44.060 So, like, for example, you can't fly, like you said, you can't do most things without an ID, right?

03:00:47.920 But let's just say if I have an expired ID or if I don't have the star of my ID, real ID purposes, people still let you fly.

03:00:55.820 You're technically not supposed to fly.

03:00:57.920 They will require additional ID verification.

03:00:59.660 Yeah, I'm just talking about ID.

03:01:01.500 I'm just talking about ID.

03:01:02.740 To my point, if you let me finish, I don't think that's a bad idea.

03:01:05.500 I do think that people should be required to present some form of ID to vote.

03:01:10.140 But I do think that there should also be other parameters in which they should make exceptions. 0.99

03:01:15.920 So let's just say if my ID is expired or I might have lost my ID, you know, because that shit happens.

03:01:22.160 Okay, bring your birth certificate, bring your social security number, bring a picture. 0.81

03:01:25.900 That's fine. Birth certificate is fine. Like, all that's fine.

03:01:28.120 Yeah.

03:01:28.460 That's totally fine.

03:01:29.020 I say, yeah, if that would be the case, yeah.

03:01:31.260 But not just, oh, you don't have it. No, you can't vote.

03:01:34.420 Yeah, but pretty much anyone who – I get the real idea thing is kind of new and annoying, but that's going to be the standard moving forward.

03:01:42.480 So everyone moving forward is going to have that ID or end up getting it.

03:01:47.920 But I'm fine with somebody using like a non – like people who are in favor of – like that's for flying, right?

03:01:55.040 People who are in favor of the voter ID, I'm sure they'd be fine if it wasn't a real ID.

03:02:05.100 Well, yeah.

03:02:05.920 I mean you have to identify the person that is given their opinion.

03:02:10.200 Yeah, I do believe that every person should be able to be verified that's voting.

03:02:13.800 Yeah, I just said ID.

03:02:14.920 I didn't say driving license.

03:02:16.540 Wasn't it like that before, though?

03:02:18.120 I remember when I lived on the west side, I used to go vote,

03:02:21.600 and I had to show them my ID, and they would look up my name,

03:02:24.520 and then I was able to vote.

03:02:26.640 In California, they cannot even ask for ID anymore.

03:02:29.360 That was in California.

03:02:30.940 Well, maybe now.

03:02:31.900 I'm just saying like 10 years ago or something like that or whatever.

03:02:38.260 Chivalry?

03:02:38.700 f why why is everyone saying f what are they saying they're saying f in the chat is a are

03:02:46.100 we lagging chat f f why why are you saying f f as in frank what what yeah all right why are you

03:02:55.100 saying f is the stream lagging what why are you saying f f f f you for not explaining yourself

03:03:04.740 chatter i don't know our stream quality looks okay so i don't know um all right so anyways um okay

03:03:12.240 let's uh get into some of the show notes here then uh where do we begin why don't we start

03:03:19.060 one sec why don't we start with uh you pepper yes pepper you had a lot of disagreements so

03:03:28.500 why don't we why don't we get into some now we'll do some more later um i'm just going to pull up

03:03:33.160 notes here um so you're a legal immigrant illegal legal legal legal uh if the united states went

03:03:43.480 to war with russia which may certainly be a possibility in our lifetime would you side with

03:03:47.840 russia or would you side with the united states what do you think you tell me united states of

03:03:52.540 course united states of course all right there you go uh okay so um you also wrote that you have

03:03:59.200 others not listed in your notes, but you already, you listed a lot in your notes. So we'll just

03:04:03.720 start there. And if there's any other ones at the end, we can definitely get into them. Uh, okay. So

03:04:09.560 why don't we start with, uh, well, this isn't so much a disagreement, but one of your notes,

03:04:20.560 you think dating is largely a learned skill and should probably be taught as a extracurricular

03:04:26.940 subject in high school or even as part of the curriculum uh people receive almost no practical

03:04:33.340 education on choosing a partner recognizing compatibility communicating expectations or

03:04:38.300 avoiding predictable mistakes so if you were teaching this class uh would like would you give

03:04:47.360 prescriptive suggestions like hey men you should pay for dates like if you were the teacher look

03:04:54.300 I would approach it differently.

03:04:56.700 I would say that there are different models of relationships where, for example, if you take Christian family, they want what you call submissive woman to a husband when husband submits to God and so on. 0.66

03:05:11.060 So this is one model of relationships. 0.90

03:05:13.960 There are models of relationships when people just date for fun.

03:05:17.680 That's a different model.

03:05:19.180 So whatever model you pursue, you know, like mini games in a game.

03:05:24.100 in computer game like mini game

03:05:25.980 you have prerequisites

03:05:27.820 you have requirements that you come with

03:05:30.080 that to the beginning

03:05:31.940 of those relationships which are

03:05:33.960 mini game

03:05:34.480 and you just need to know

03:05:37.660 what is it to expect and what

03:05:39.700 the outcome that you're going

03:05:41.840 to expect from this mini game

03:05:43.380 so what if one of those is

03:05:45.720 when we're talking about paying

03:05:47.880 for dates for example

03:05:49.560 if you are dating for long

03:05:51.980 term relationships then you

03:05:53.940 discuss with your potential partner how you pay for the dates because your goal is to get to know

03:06:01.520 each other. And if, for example, I know that you are, you present yourself as a resource because

03:06:08.760 you want some leech to come to you and sort of take your money or sell yourself because you're

03:06:16.840 sort of going to support someone. So that's... Wait, wait, you think, can you explain that a

03:06:22.440 further oh of course of course so okay you say i present myself how you present yourself as a

03:06:29.880 person of means tiffany were you not showing these you present yourself as someone who can

03:06:37.320 pay for everything my wife is not going to work or my girlfriend is not going to work

03:06:42.640 so basically you are entering into the relationships with an equal unequal positions

03:06:49.940 you know so okay and and well so okay how am i presenting myself and then um

03:06:59.780 women who want a provider of their leeches i don't view it that way but what i said what i

03:07:07.300 said at the beginning that you have uh different models of relationships right yeah i know so you

03:07:13.760 have a family for example i have my family my husband and i we contribute to the family to

03:07:21.540 the betterment of the family whatever whatever it takes each one is doing whatever whatever is

03:07:26.380 possible okay but explain explain what you said though so you said brian you're portraying your

03:07:31.120 i didn't quite catch the what you said i do but then you said and you want to date a woman who's

03:07:36.260 leech yes i'm saying i'm saying that when you when you position yourself yourself on the market

03:07:43.800 and you're trying to date women to whom you are saying up front that you are going to provide for

03:07:50.540 them you're going to attract the type of women who want those women and men to be their provider

03:07:59.540 and this is the only value that they see in you value that hold on that doesn't even what what

03:08:05.760 you mean doesn't even yeah that doesn't make sense though so how okay saying that you're desirous of

03:08:11.800 a certain kind of dynamic you're suggesting so the fact that i'm successful uh and that if i was

03:08:19.260 saying that hold on wait wait i want to use what you just said and apply it differently so okay

03:08:28.280 Okay. A woman who says that one of her great desires is to have children, and she wants to have many children.

03:08:40.580 Well, hold on. That's setting yourself up to only be seen as a uterus, which I reject. 0.93

03:08:47.320 I think a woman can say that she's very desirous of having children and be seen as something that transcends simply just her ability to have children, her uterus, her being a baby maker.

03:09:00.480 In my case, even though I say, you know what, I am desirous of a, I'm open to a relationship where she doesn't have to work, perhaps that's even preferable, perhaps that's what I want.

03:09:12.660 How would it then follow that that is the only metric by which or for which a woman would want to date me for?

03:09:20.800 I didn't say that's the only metric.

03:09:22.640 I'm saying that when you position it as, at the beginning, when you position it for everyone to know, right, then the kind of women that you attract, they're going to look for exactly that.

03:09:35.600 And some of them, or many of them, might be looking for someone to support them.

03:09:41.520 Like Sugar Daddy.

03:09:42.400 I don't, wait, like what?

03:09:43.680 Like, look at you, Sugar, or look at you as an ATM.

03:09:46.420 That's what basically it is.

03:09:49.460 That's how I feel at least.

03:09:50.800 Hold on. I think we have to separate a couple concepts here.

03:09:53.540 I don't think it's wrong for a woman to be desirous of being in a relationship with a man who's a provider

03:10:00.840 or for her to have a view that she would rather take care of the household and raise the children

03:10:10.460 and not go off and be a boss babe so we can hire a nanny or have child care. 1.00

03:10:16.280 That doesn't, I don't see how those, it's assumed that this woman is going to, as you say, be a leech. 1.00

03:10:25.720 I didn't say that in this case, when she is giving you children, and who is taking care of the children, 0.96

03:10:34.320 and who creates comfort in your house when you come home, she makes it comfortable for you.

03:10:40.420 I didn't say that she's a leech in this case.

03:10:42.700 I just said that when you approach dating, because you asked me, teaching about dating,

03:10:48.940 all I said, I said there are different models of relationships that people seek.

03:10:53.580 And for each model of relationships, you need to explain to students what to look for.

03:10:58.900 Because you find oftentimes, you find, for example, women who want to date for long-term relationships

03:11:05.200 and men who want just to date for short-term relationships, which don't convert into long-term relationships.

03:11:11.760 and we have disappointments

03:11:13.840 and we have problems.

03:11:15.720 That's what I said.

03:11:16.660 I said that I would teach children at school

03:11:21.020 at least how to view

03:11:24.280 and what are different types of relationships.

03:11:26.240 Okay, so in the long-term, 0.99

03:11:29.360 say there's a woman who wants a long-term relationship,

03:11:31.300 the man wants a long-term relationship.

03:11:34.520 What should the man do on the first date?

03:11:36.940 On the first date?

03:11:37.980 Yeah, should he pay for the date? 0.99

03:11:38.900 did they have any did they have any communication beforehand oh yeah women love it when you check

03:11:46.700 in with them before the first date well let me finish i'm gonna finish or they're just meeting 0.99

03:11:51.400 or they're just meeting blind it doesn't matter well 99 of women are never going to be okay with 0.60

03:11:57.420 a conversation oh my god it's look maybe you haven't dated oh well you've been married for

03:12:03.440 33 years women are not going to be cool with the like the guy hey just want to check in um

03:12:11.660 on the who should pay that's exactly communicate you said communicate no communicate not about 0.99

03:12:18.740 paying yeah that's what i was asking if you have blind date if you have blind date and you're

03:12:23.640 meeting with someone for the first time and guy invites you who's going to pay at that at that

03:12:30.300 particular date or i'm asking you if you if you texted spoke on the phone uh you had zoom

03:12:38.320 conversation whatever i don't know like what's up uh yeah you you communicated with that person

03:12:44.160 before you know something about that person then you can discuss already with that person 0.99

03:12:49.580 yeah women are not going to be happy having a conversation about like if the man's like hey 1.00

03:12:55.920 just checking in like um how do you feel about going 50 50 that's going to be an issue for a lot

03:13:02.240 of women you know the society accepts that men pay that's the society okay right they say men

03:13:09.720 should pay then we have different problems that that arise from that some men what should women

03:13:17.100 expect what should women yeah what should women do when uh at what early on early on in the same

03:13:25.700 way that when they go to the date or when when at what point early on before the date first month

03:13:32.880 before the first date or when or at the date what are you asking let's say how about here's the

03:13:40.620 timeline three first dates three weeks there's going to be an expectation on the man that he

03:13:46.360 pay for the dates what expectation can we place on the women on the woman in those first three

03:13:52.060 weeks let's say if i'm dating if i am a woman and i'm dating someone i'm 20 years old and someone

03:13:58.960 20 years old student yeah i know that student doesn't have much money i'm going on a date

03:14:05.520 with a student and i'm student myself we're going together i would expect that we're paying

03:14:11.300 50-50. Yeah, a lot of women. I would expect that. Okay, a lot of young women, hold on, 1.00

03:14:16.720 a lot of young women are still going to have an expectation that even their male peers of the 0.99

03:14:21.420 same age still pay for the date. Secondly, though, why don't we switch it to 30 and 30?

03:14:25.780 Then you don't date her. What can I tell you? You don't date this woman.

03:14:30.760 Okay, we're switching it to 30 and 30. Okay, let's switch it. 1.00

03:14:34.100 So there's not a, like, if you're both 30 and say you both have average careers or whatever,

03:14:38.980 You both have money

03:14:39.820 Question then for the first date 1.00

03:14:42.740 Where does he invite his woman 0.62

03:14:44.940 Is it a restaurant or a coffee shop

03:14:46.520 Why is there an assumption that the man is doing the inviting

03:14:49.540 Well there is always an assumption

03:14:51.460 An assumption that man is doing the inviting

03:14:53.540 Right so okay but you're already creating 0.97

03:14:55.380 Rules for men 0.91

03:14:56.080 However for you it might be different 0.91

03:14:57.540 Because you have like women who approach you

03:15:00.800 There are many men just like you

03:15:02.540 I'm not talking about me I'm speaking in general

03:15:04.420 Okay well ideally of course

03:15:06.800 It's when man has a way 0.99

03:15:08.800 to get DMs from women. 1.00

03:15:11.160 You were saying you would have a class. 1.00

03:15:13.760 You would have, maybe in school, after school, you would have a class.

03:15:17.500 I don't have a curriculum.

03:15:17.860 I'm just saying that, in my opinion, this is what's missing.

03:15:21.420 You're asking me to create a curriculum on the spot for teaching children how to date.

03:15:27.760 One thing.

03:15:28.120 I cannot do that.

03:15:28.840 I'm asking you for one thing.

03:15:30.480 What would you teach them as it relates to the paying for the date thing?

03:15:35.120 I would teach them, probably.

03:15:37.900 The man pays.

03:15:38.340 That, one second, if a man has means and invites you to a date to an expensive restaurant and you see that it's expensive restaurant, he probably, possibly might be expecting something from you.

03:15:53.320 So you can raise a question and say, hey, you know, I don't feel really comfortable because it's kind of expensive for me.

03:16:02.240 I'm not going, what your sign, am I saying something nonsense or what?

03:16:06.600 go on

03:16:08.760 go on

03:16:10.080 go on

03:16:14.160 is it nonsense in your opinion

03:16:16.740 I mean you're saying

03:16:18.940 like I get it okay you're

03:16:20.560 using an example

03:16:21.940 I would object going to an expensive restaurant

03:16:25.060 with a man on the first date

03:16:26.980 but okay why is it assumed

03:16:28.240 you're immediately going to

03:16:31.020 a scenario where okay yes

03:16:32.960 well now that it's expensive

03:16:35.220 then 1.00

03:16:36.540 well, okay, maybe the woman should 0.97

03:16:39.440 have a conversation about it. I would 1.00

03:16:41.380 object. I would say, how about

03:16:43.320 we go to a different place

03:16:44.800 where we can sit down and talk?

03:16:47.460 Okay, so somewhere cheaper where the man

03:16:49.400 still pays. I can go and I

03:16:51.380 pay for myself. Not necessarily.

03:16:53.820 Okay, a lot of women are going to have a problem 1.00

03:16:55.380 with that. It's fine. 1.00

03:16:57.360 It's fine.

03:16:58.000 When you're in your 30s, you're probably

03:17:01.100 dating for relationships, right?

03:17:02.720 perhaps

03:17:04.520 I don't know, not in your case

03:17:06.180 because you know that you grilled her for having

03:17:08.460 like in four years 100

03:17:09.680 men and I was wondering

03:17:12.380 why nobody sees

03:17:13.640 an irony in that

03:17:16.100 because it seems like you have the same

03:17:18.620 issue like her and you were grilling her

03:17:20.600 for that, like only 1.00

03:17:22.400 you said that she's the only common problem

03:17:24.300 in all those men who she rejected

03:17:26.040 oh well I mean I'd say I've

03:17:28.220 so that's an irony

03:17:30.400 which I've seen

03:17:32.340 not necessarily an irony i i mean what i would point out here is i've actually in recent history

03:17:38.360 had long-term relationship certainly and more recently than she has and i've definitely look

03:17:45.540 i'll frame it like this um it wouldn't take me a hundred women to end up in at least a relationship 1.00

03:17:53.240 that is correct but not in uh in a relationship that's going to last 1.00

03:18:01.800 So she's looking for someone to date for a long time.

03:18:07.320 You know what?

03:18:07.740 We're jumping from one topic to another.

03:18:10.400 So if you want to go back to dating and paying for the first date, maybe we can go there.

03:18:20.280 That's exactly what we're talking about.

03:18:21.780 You're the one who wants to talk about irony.

03:18:24.380 Oh, irony, yes.

03:18:25.660 Yes.

03:18:26.120 Yes, I mentioned irony.

03:18:27.580 That is correct.

03:18:28.840 Yeah.

03:18:29.380 So.

03:18:30.600 Right. 1.00

03:18:30.940 i'm trying to keep it on track okay i came back okay all right so i think that women have to

03:18:39.960 participate i don't think that men should be the ones the ones who are paying like all the way i

03:18:48.880 think that investment into the relationship has to be equal what i'm trying to get at maybe on a

03:18:55.060 second what i'm trying to get at is you say your position yes is that and i'm just going off your

03:19:00.120 notes here. You're saying that there should be, and look, I agree with you that dating is very

03:19:06.480 messy and people are not having a good time with dating. Men are not happy. Women are not happy.

03:19:13.600 People will hopefully end up meeting a good person, but there's a lot of struggle oftentimes 1.00

03:19:19.620 before you do find a good person. And there's a lot of complications when it comes to dating.

03:19:24.440 uh, social media, these dating apps has not made, uh, it a particularly good time for people.

03:19:32.300 You were saying that it should be taught. My issue though, is that I believe from you from

03:19:40.660 probably from your perspective, if you were to, and I'm not asking you, okay, well tell me the

03:19:45.180 exact, give me a syllabus of everything there would be in a class. You say, well, it should

03:19:49.300 be taught in school and actually i don't even think that that's the worst idea maybe we could

03:19:54.740 have a class or something like that i think my criticism here is that if there were to be a class 0.67

03:20:00.020 it almost inevitably would be i suspect would frame it as this is how men should be this is

03:20:09.620 what men should do without any mention of any burden on women because it's it's socially

03:20:16.340 acceptable and okay in society to tell men, you should do this. It's okay. Men should do this.

03:20:23.040 Men should do that. Men should be willing to die for women. Men should be willing to provide and 1.00

03:20:26.480 protect. That's not an objectionable position to have. The moment, the moment men say women should

03:20:34.540 instantly, it digs into this combative nature that a lot of Western women have as it relates

03:20:44.280 to feminism. And so my issue here is, it's okay, we teach men how to treat women, we teach women

03:20:53.000 how to expect to be treated, but we don't teach women how to treat men, and we don't teach men

03:21:01.120 how to expect to be treated. And so this idea that some school would not just fall into this,

03:21:09.740 all the burden is on men to perform or to act in a certain way and then it would it would be this

03:21:18.060 honestly this frankly terrible framing that's why i'm asking you what should men do in this

03:21:22.840 in the payment component because you would probably everything boils down to the burden

03:21:31.340 is on men we we don't we don't hold women accountable we don't tell women how they should

03:21:37.400 act or what they should do. It's all about how men should be. And then we teach women,

03:21:42.960 here's what you should expect. When women say they're romantic, that has nothing to do with 0.99

03:21:48.380 how the woman acts. It's actually the most hilarious thing. When women say they love 1.00

03:21:53.120 romance and being romantic, it's as receiver, as receiver of romance, not doer of romance or 0.96

03:22:03.160 giver of romance. That's exactly why I told you that I would expect investment into the

03:22:08.620 relationships to be equal from both parties. And if you look into my notes over there.

03:22:13.260 But you're against submission. I'm against submission. Are you against submission? Yes,

03:22:18.380 I am. Okay. So what the fuck do men get in a relationship? I'm saying in Christian. Tell me,

03:22:23.780 tell me what, but okay, hold on. Being submissive in a relationship can exist absent religion.

03:22:29.780 So I understand it's perhaps easier to procure this because you can just point to scripture if you're both Christian and be like, the fucking Bible tells you to do it. 1.00

03:22:41.460 Do that shit. 1.00

03:22:42.440 Whereas it's a bit different if you're both secular or atheist or whatever. 1.00

03:22:47.560 But you can still negotiate, so to speak, a submissive dynamic absent religion.

03:22:55.080 But I guess 0.73

03:22:56.460 That's my confusion here

03:22:58.580 Is you're against submission 0.99

03:22:59.880 But you would still hold men 0.92

03:23:02.320 To a certain traditional

03:23:04.020 Gender role standard 0.50

03:23:05.740 Where did I say that I hold men to 0.95

03:23:08.180 Gender traditional standard

03:23:09.680 Where does it say

03:23:10.680 If you check my notes today for example

03:23:13.000 I did not

03:23:14.180 Fair enough

03:23:15.400 But hold on you didn't circle anything here

03:23:18.900 But when I was asking you

03:23:20.540 I circled something

03:23:21.480 But you gave it away when I asked

03:23:23.900 You made the assumption that the initiative burden falls on men.

03:23:28.140 That's a traditional gender role that falls on men.

03:23:30.820 Okay, you made the assumption that men should be the ones pursuing. 0.99

03:23:34.800 So the men have to ask. 0.74

03:23:36.280 The men have to expose themselves to rejection. 1.00

03:23:38.800 So that is a traditional gender role. 0.92

03:23:40.960 That is just, and it's a privilege is invisible to those who have it. 1.00

03:23:45.000 Women don't even, because you enjoy the benefit of men coming to you, 0.99

03:23:48.860 You don't even understand the initiative burden or the rejection pitfall that many men have to deal with. 0.91

03:23:55.180 You're right.

03:23:55.760 But this is why I asked you at what stage your relationships are, whether it's a blind date, then someone has to invite someone.

03:24:04.380 But from the very beginning, the burden exists on the man and the burden continues throughout the course of the relationship.

03:24:11.980 it often you know diminishes a bit but especially at the beginning it's always the man who has to

03:24:19.440 make the first you know why majority of the time why because when we woman a woman makes a first 0.93

03:24:24.600 move it's men love it men love it exactly exactly they say okay she wants me in her pants that's why 0.99

03:24:32.640 because she made the first the first move and women think when men make the first move that 1.00

03:24:38.020 he wants to get into my pants well when he makes the first move that maybe we can build relationships 0.99

03:24:43.980 because we can then date and when she makes the first move maybe these things can happen at the 1.00

03:24:49.120 same time or maybe we can also build a relationship in some cases in some cases but less women ask 0.99

03:24:55.600 men out because if you see someone you like you ask him out oh my god i would never you would 0.96

03:25:01.640 Never?

03:25:02.120 No.

03:25:02.600 Okay, you're 51 years old.

03:25:05.200 Have you ever asked a guy out?

03:25:07.020 No, because I think it's, well, maybe in my 20s.

03:25:10.420 Very, very young.

03:25:11.840 But now I just feel like it's too masculine.

03:25:14.600 Well, you would have done it, but did you do it?

03:25:17.240 I did it early on, and then I paid for guys early on that I really liked,

03:25:20.880 and it didn't get me anywhere.

03:25:22.520 It kind of took away whatever.

03:25:26.180 It just didn't work.

03:25:27.300 So now I'm like, I would feel awkward going up and asking somebody out.

03:25:32.280 So you're saying guys like that?

03:25:34.120 But you don't know why it didn't go farther with you, for example.

03:25:41.660 You don't know why.

03:25:43.580 So nobody, like, there is no statistics.

03:25:46.880 You're assuming it's because you asked them out or it's because you paid for them.

03:25:51.180 So you're assuming it, but you don't know.

03:25:52.840 But here, look, the criticism I have of you is on one hand, you say in your notes, you're kind of against this submission thing.

03:26:02.200 You're against it, right?

03:26:03.840 And so, however, you do hold men to their traditional gender expectations.

03:26:10.680 And so that's my primary issue.

03:26:13.380 I grew up in the patriarchy, you know, in Russia.

03:26:16.660 You know, that was how I was brought up.

03:26:19.980 So for a woman, it was not possible to ask a man out, but I would, but I would, because

03:26:25.700 I think that both, both people in the relationship have to invest into relationships, women and

03:26:31.780 men.

03:26:33.420 So that's why I'm saying what, what, what, so, okay.

03:26:36.600 When you say both people, you're holding your hands at equal level.

03:26:40.640 Yes.

03:26:41.520 So invest into a relationship. 0.99

03:26:43.760 Can you articulate to me that a woman invests into a relationship, say in the early stages

03:26:48.840 to the same degree and same capacity that men do,

03:26:53.140 all the burden is on men.

03:26:55.940 All of it.

03:26:57.980 This is what men feel society.

03:27:00.340 So men here, women here.

03:27:01.940 This is what men consider.

03:27:04.100 That's sort of how men were brought up.

03:27:06.640 Then why are women rejecting?

03:27:08.860 I'm saying don't do it. 0.99

03:27:09.300 Reject, that's what I'm saying.

03:27:10.760 Don't date her.

03:27:12.100 No, no, no.

03:27:13.080 Why?

03:27:13.560 Okay, if you're saying, well, oh, you know what?

03:27:15.460 That's just society's expectations.

03:27:17.040 then it's society's expectations 1.00

03:27:19.320 that women be submissive 1.00

03:27:21.000 and they shut the fuck up and they make me a sandwich 1.00

03:27:23.500 but no that's wrong 0.99

03:27:25.380 but the moment you say you know what

03:27:27.340 you're a man and you make minimum

03:27:29.360 wage and you have to 1.00

03:27:30.720 in order to take a woman out 1.00

03:27:32.380 you gotta part with your earned money

03:27:35.040 to treat her on a date 0.94

03:27:36.320 that's not what I said

03:27:37.260 ok so who

03:27:40.480 it's just 50-50

03:27:42.360 what's your prescription

03:27:44.220 I'm looking for a prescription

03:27:46.040 On one date, he can pay. 0.65

03:27:47.940 On another date, she can pay. 0.97

03:27:49.220 No, no, no. 0.81

03:27:50.080 Who makes the first move?

03:27:51.680 What would your actual prescription be?

03:27:55.340 It depends on the two people and on relationships.

03:27:57.720 What do you mean it depends on the two people?

03:27:59.640 Okay, not in some, like, utopian world.

03:28:03.520 In the real world, if you had this class that you want to teach people how to date.

03:28:07.840 I don't want to teach a class.

03:28:09.300 I just said.

03:28:10.080 No, but you said they should teach a class on how to date.

03:28:12.920 On a second thought, in schools in California, when you have those Democrat teachers who are, like, anti-male, probably it's not going to be a good idea.

03:28:25.240 Unless you have a curriculum that goes across, like, entire country, federal curriculum, whatever.

03:28:30.740 I don't know.

03:28:31.360 It doesn't have to be.

03:28:32.220 It can be.

03:28:32.680 But what would the prescription be?

03:28:35.580 I don't know the prescriptions.

03:28:36.620 I cannot give you prescriptions.

03:28:38.320 You're asking me to decide.

03:28:39.740 Well, yes, because we're exploring this as an idea that you brought up.

03:28:43.460 Okay.

03:28:44.300 Is it possible in a classroom setting that a student will ask the dating teacher in the class who's giving, like, here's dating tips and how to, you know, which, look, I think there's merit to it.

03:28:57.920 A male student says, hey, who should make the first move?

03:29:02.820 Should I go up to the girl or should – what would your prescription be? 0.99

03:29:07.900 My prescription would be, if you like the girl, you can ask her out. 0.97

03:29:12.620 If she likes you, she will ask you out.

03:29:14.440 Okay, but hold on.

03:29:15.820 He's saying, like, in a scenario, maybe both of them like each other.

03:29:19.560 Who should make the first move?

03:29:21.080 How do they know that they like each other?

03:29:22.800 They don't.

03:29:23.640 They don't.

03:29:24.220 But both of them like each other.

03:29:25.520 So who should make the first move?

03:29:26.760 So whoever is faster.

03:29:28.940 Who's ever faster.

03:29:30.180 Whoever is faster, if they like together.

03:29:33.240 Now, okay, but so somebody has to make the first move.

03:29:36.080 Of course, somebody has to.

03:29:37.900 If the girl likes the guy, if I like the guy enough, I go and I ask him out.

03:29:45.180 If he likes me and he comes to me first, I say, of course.

03:29:50.700 I just don't understand what's the dilemma here.

03:29:53.460 Okay, so the man has to ask out then.

03:29:57.160 And the woman has to ask out if she likes him. 0.63

03:29:59.460 But women don't overwhelmingly.

03:30:02.540 How is it my problem that women don't overwhelmingly? 1.00

03:30:04.980 You are telling me women don't ask out, and this is something that I have to be responsible for. 0.98

03:30:13.460 No, okay, let me try to, the reason I'm asking these questions, the reason I'm trying to get a prescription from you, 0.86

03:30:20.540 is if you're going to probably say that men should do X, Y, Z, you're going to have to say women should do X, Y, Z, but you won't.

03:30:29.160 You're not going to say

03:30:31.360 Women should do anything

03:30:32.480 Because you're against submission 1.00

03:30:34.040 Which means you reject traditional gender roles 0.99

03:30:37.280 For women 0.84

03:30:37.820 But you're completely okay with traditional gender roles for men 0.71

03:30:41.060 Traditional gender roles for men look something like this

03:30:43.500 How do I know that I reject

03:30:44.780 Taking initiative

03:30:45.840 Making the first move

03:30:47.600 Putting yourself out there for rejection

03:30:50.040 Planning the date

03:30:51.740 Paying for the date 1.00

03:30:53.160 What the fuck should women do 1.00

03:30:55.320 You guys just don't do shit 1.00

03:30:58.040 That's not true 1.00

03:30:59.000 It's fucking 100% true. 0.95

03:31:01.120 You don't do anything. 0.99

03:31:02.560 We breathe.

03:31:03.820 Exactly.

03:31:04.580 That's it. 1.00

03:31:05.580 What would you say that a woman should do? 1.00

03:31:09.260 Like on a date, like say you did all these things. 0.99

03:31:11.540 What are your...

03:31:12.640 No, no, no.

03:31:13.040 Hold on.

03:31:13.640 I'm not going to give that until I get an answer.

03:31:17.020 What are your expectations? 1.00

03:31:17.720 I'm not going to answer that until I get an answer on what women should do. 1.00

03:31:23.420 I already answered you. 1.00

03:31:24.400 If I like the guy, I'm asking him out. 1.00

03:31:26.520 Well, women don't do that, which, okay. 1.00

03:31:29.480 So here, have you ever asked out a guy? 0.99

03:31:32.540 You're asking me.

03:31:33.340 Hold on, hold on.

03:31:34.240 So you're 27.

03:31:35.220 Have you ever asked out a guy?

03:31:36.460 No, but I think you can like make it known.

03:31:39.100 Hold on, hold on.

03:31:39.860 Okay.

03:31:40.120 Let me ask a couple of clarifying questions.

03:31:42.380 So you're 27.

03:31:43.740 You've never, like, when you say, when I say asked out a guy, so first we'll start with in person.

03:31:49.340 You've never, either in a classroom setting, a social setting, maybe like a friend group,

03:31:53.940 you've never like made that first move

03:31:56.580 in my mind

03:31:58.520 I kind of have but I've never actually asked

03:32:00.540 looking at a guy for two seconds does not

03:32:02.540 count as making the first move

03:32:03.720 so you've never asked well I feel like you can

03:32:06.480 make it known yeah the guys have to pick up

03:32:08.520 on the signals it's like the art of seduction

03:32:10.860 bro this is here

03:32:12.080 this is what 1.00

03:32:13.340 this is what women mean 1.00

03:32:15.960 when they say they are making a move 1.00

03:32:18.480 on the guy so say you're like walking

03:32:20.340 past a guy 0.99

03:32:21.020 that's it that's the fucking handkerchief well we're not hunters by nature a quarter of a second 0.99

03:32:28.880 at the guy and that's like meanwhile the guy you don't like oh hey bob oh my god i hope your 0.99

03:32:35.600 date's going good blah blah so the guys you actually like you fucking basically ignore them 0.81

03:32:40.380 sometimes it varies it varies natural tension and both people are nervous aren't they okay but 0.86

03:32:45.620 what's interesting is so in the past four and we don't know your dating history before your

03:32:50.020 relationship uh in the past four years you've been on a hundred dates and these were almost

03:32:56.940 all from dating apps almost yeah and this is usually the guy matches you and he's asking you

03:33:03.160 out um yeah like you're not asking for the number planning the date etc etc no that's not my job

03:33:10.720 it's not your job which we'll we'll get to trying to even establish what could even conceivably be

03:33:18.440 a woman's job if a man was her you put a man you put her in a man's body her brain in a man's body 1.00

03:33:27.580 that's a 27 year old virgin 27 year old virgin uh so women move through life with massive amounts

03:33:36.440 of privilege never having to take any initiative uh if a man just was like you know what i don't 0.76

03:33:41.720 ask girls out and i wait for them to come to me they get nothing that's where we're

03:33:48.420 at these days. Well, uh, but women worse than, worse than years ago. Hold on. But like a girl 1.00

03:33:55.660 goes to a club, guys will come up to her. A guy goes to a club and just stands there with his 0.96

03:34:00.220 drink, whatever. No girls are coming to talk to him. He could go out 10 nights in a row. No girls

03:34:05.740 coming to flirt with him. No girls trying to pursue him. No girls trying to fuck nothing.

03:34:10.780 So on dating apps, if a guy just does what girls do, which is be very passive and kind of very, 0.99

03:34:18.000 what's the word 0.94

03:34:19.380 it's a good word but it's

03:34:22.520 blanking on me nonchalant

03:34:24.340 nothing 0.99

03:34:26.040 fucking nothing so 0.97

03:34:28.340 I guess what I'm trying to get 0.99

03:34:30.480 at here is

03:34:31.860 I don't know

03:34:33.720 these

03:34:34.320 at school in this curriculum

03:34:38.080 that I'm talking about you can

03:34:40.560 teach women

03:34:42.120 how to act towards men 0.99

03:34:44.340 that you can ask them

03:34:46.520 out

03:34:46.920 uh yeah sure you can ask them out you can pay for your date you can invest into relationships

03:34:54.340 equally with the men if you want to teach them that you can build a relationship there would 1.00

03:34:59.540 be massive resistance um that's fine to this sort of thing uh because women are essentially ingrained 0.56

03:35:05.820 to still have expectations on men but reject their own duties and responsibilities as it relates to

03:35:12.260 receiving that kind of treatment you know what i have two grown men my sons yeah okay so i'm four

03:35:22.300 men believe me so you're trying you're trying to sort of uh position sort of my refusal as i said

03:35:33.160 to submit you didn't even ask me how then would you have relationships if you don't submit to men

03:35:39.700 like 100% what would be what would be the relationships then if it is like not 100%

03:35:47.380 submission to a benevolent man who is on whom I have to rely well my position it's not impossible

03:35:55.620 and in fact many current relationships modern relationships actually stray significantly away 1.00

03:36:04.780 from a more submissive dynamic, in reality, you have women who are vexatious and who are nags and 0.97

03:36:12.980 who completely treat their husbands like doormats and who walk all over them and who call the shots 0.99

03:36:18.720 and who wear the pants and who browbeat their husbands into basically a shell of their former 0.99

03:36:25.520 ourselves. So, and look, I, that would be sort of the extreme other direction. I would also say

03:36:34.780 though, that it is possible that more egalitarian 50, 50 relationships, uh, can work. But

03:36:43.000 if we're going to hold men to a traditional standard, and we're going to continue saying 0.76

03:36:49.900 Men should do this, men should do that

03:36:51.960 Men should be X, Y, Z 0.99

03:36:53.160 Why the fuck can't we say 1.00

03:36:55.720 Women should be X, Y, Z and do this 1.00

03:36:57.960 And do that 1.00

03:36:58.340 We should say that

03:36:59.700 We don't and there's massive resistance against it

03:37:02.700 What do you want me to do about it

03:37:03.800 I'm not asking you

03:37:06.940 But I'm not asking you to do anything about it

03:37:09.060 You're saying that this is part of my

03:37:10.340 We're having a conversation

03:37:12.140 You're saying that this was part of my writing

03:37:14.840 But it wasn't 1.00

03:37:16.180 I didn't say that women

03:37:18.640 shouldn't do anything i didn't say it anywhere but that's not my claim i'm making against you

03:37:24.380 because you you are elaborating that i am not doing something like uh not uh your word

03:37:32.660 no i'm actually well i can i can actually understand because you're doing this and

03:37:37.500 you're asking the same question again and again and you somehow no i'm not trying i'm not being

03:37:41.600 rude even even follow-up you don't have to you don't have to be feisty about it i'm i'm not

03:37:46.340 intentionally being rude it was an actual yawn it's a physiological thing that is

03:37:52.500 oftentimes you can't control to some degree accepted okay uh well okay i guess next topic

03:38:00.860 then uh you wanted to talk about abortion i find the abortion topic somewhat boring but we'll do

03:38:05.580 i didn't want to i sent you three files uh i have four files yes i have all your notes oh but this

03:38:12.300 was one of them okay and you said it's your strongest earlier application which has like

03:38:17.100 very little okay well we'll talk about it for three minutes and then move on that's fine you

03:38:20.940 say it's just it's your strongest subject yes you believe there should be no legal restrictions on

03:38:26.100 abortion correct uh you believe the conservative movement movement has made a major strategic

03:38:32.700 and philosophical mistake by advocating abortion restrictions you've watched many of my abortion

03:38:38.520 discussions you think they repeatedly miss what is actually the central question and you'd enjoy

03:38:44.040 testing uh your arguments against mine andrew wilson's or anyone else's on the panel uh you

03:38:51.360 disagree with advocating legal abortion restrictions and with the analogy comparing military conscription

03:38:56.600 to okay so those are separate things um and you had a it sounds like a novel argument related to

03:39:03.740 this really quick though you said no legal restrictions so nine months nine months i wrote

03:39:11.020 to you uh details okay yeah okay nine months you said no legal restrictions you understand that at

03:39:18.120 some point when you have nine you you're saying no legal restrictions now if a fetus is already

03:39:24.060 viable uh 24 weeks right viable or like at 24 weeks you can call it abortion but it can be

03:39:33.340 induced labor a woman can have induced labor she can have a c-section she can deliver a baby and

03:39:41.880 put this baby for abortion or for for for adoption yes okay so that's why i'm saying if you don't 0.99

03:39:48.920 six months six months yes 24 weeks yes 24 weeks six right now right now women do right now women

03:39:56.920 abort babies you don't want them to abort babies at six months right well i'm asking you well i'm

03:40:05.160 telling you but hold on no restriction no legal restrictions yes so assume look here's a hypothetical

03:40:11.540 yes uh a woman is pregnant and then she's on the fence and she's she's back and forth as to what

03:40:19.160 she does and it's conceivable that a long period of time elapses while she's on the fence right

03:40:25.620 And this extends into six, seven, eight months, right?

03:40:30.480 She doesn't want to take care of the kid. 1.00

03:40:33.460 Can she, no legal restrictions on abortion? 1.00

03:40:36.380 Can she get an abortion? 1.00

03:40:37.260 Well, this abortion is going to be induced labor. 1.00

03:40:43.580 So, okay, does the child survive or not?

03:40:45.700 Yes, child is likely to survive because it's past the viability date.

03:40:52.360 Yes, likely.

03:40:53.320 Likely the child is going to survive

03:40:55.320 Why not? 0.59

03:40:56.300 There are premature babies that are born

03:40:59.340 Then they go in the NICU

03:41:01.700 And it's hundreds of thousands

03:41:03.960 Of dollars

03:41:04.780 There is another option 1.00

03:41:08.000 Another option is to talk to the woman 1.00

03:41:10.060 And say look we want you to carry 1.00

03:41:12.000 The baby to the term 0.94

03:41:13.160 Here is your compensation

03:41:15.580 Please do it

03:41:16.500 We're going to compensate her

03:41:19.700 No we're going to 1.00

03:41:21.120 we're going to have government to to so okay a woman at seven months to tell to tell women that 0.98

03:41:26.900 they have to provide their bodies for uh for use by another person that's what we're going to tell

03:41:31.580 what okay hold on so a woman who's seven months a woman who's seven seven month pregnant 0.58

03:41:38.640 goes to the doctor and is like hey you know i don't really want to do this i want an abortion

03:41:43.880 and then the government steps in and is like okay well we'll pay you ten thousand dollars to see it 0.98

03:41:49.280 term for example so why how would this not be completely abused by women who actually want to

03:41:55.880 keep the kid but they're like you know what ten thousand dollars will be nice i'm just gonna lie 0.93

03:41:59.320 and say i want an abortion well in hand out like so that's completely ridiculous and it would never 0.93

03:42:04.900 happen um okay but but you want you want to create all these examples let's assume the woman wants 0.96

03:42:10.800 to kill the the fetus should she should seven months seven months no lee your your position 1.00

03:42:18.360 no legal restrictions on abortion so forget induced labor she's like nah kill the thing 0.99

03:42:24.020 because she was like well four weeks ago you would you wouldn't have seen this different right 1.00

03:42:29.840 well you cannot have abortion as abortion at seven months that of course you can have an

03:42:35.600 no it's going to be induced labor that's how you get the baby out wait hold on is taking the baby

03:42:40.640 out wait wait hold on not necessarily i want to preserve the fetus i don't want abortions at all

03:42:46.940 If it was up to me, I would say, hey, no abortions, no abortions at all.

03:42:52.040 But hold on. 0.98

03:42:53.040 But we have a reality when you have people or women who carry babies that they don't want, right? 0.92

03:43:01.700 But no legal restrictions on abortion. 0.99

03:43:03.600 So would you have any, say the woman, okay, but hold on. 1.00

03:43:10.700 But one of the reasons women get abortions early on is because they don't want to be parentally or financially responsible. 0.77

03:43:20.320 And say it's within six weeks or whatever, or eight weeks or ten weeks, they will be granted an abortion that, like, terminates the life of the fetus in your utero, I guess is the right term.

03:43:37.620 Yes.

03:43:37.920 What would actually be wrong with terminating

03:43:40.620 The life of the fetus in utero

03:43:42.460 At 40 weeks

03:43:43.240 At 40?

03:43:46.040 Sorry

03:43:46.560 Seven months 0.99

03:43:49.620 Sorry my fucking months are fucked up 0.99

03:43:52.560 My bad 0.99

03:43:52.920 You know

03:43:53.520 I'm not for killing children at all

03:43:56.820 I'm saying if you can preserve the life of the fetus

03:44:00.040 You preserve the life of the fetus

03:44:01.280 But no legal restriction on abortion

03:44:02.700 But what's abortion for you? 0.97

03:44:05.420 Abortion is removing the fetus 1.00

03:44:07.100 from the woman.

03:44:07.760 Not necessarily. 0.90

03:44:09.320 What if the woman doesn't? 1.00

03:44:10.440 What term? 1.00

03:44:11.320 Then redefine it.

03:44:13.160 Define what? 0.63

03:44:14.480 Redefine abortion at six months.

03:44:17.240 You say that if someone wants to abort a fetus at six months,

03:44:23.120 they have to go through induced labor or a C-section.

03:44:27.600 I'm not an expert in the exact procedure used.

03:44:30.760 My understanding when you get an abortion, 0.95

03:44:32.400 you're killing whatever that is.

03:44:34.120 Now, you might say, well, okay, once it's past the point of viability, and somebody in the chat can maybe correct me because this is not my area of expertise.

03:44:43.840 Are you arguing that past viability, if you induce an abortion the same way you would induce an abortion?

03:44:51.080 Hold on.

03:44:52.380 If you do an abortion the same way you would do an abortion prior to viability, the fetus will be fine?

03:45:00.200 No, that's not what I'm saying, no.

03:45:01.380 But no legal restrictions on abortion.

03:45:04.120 So can a woman, post-viability, get an abortion that would result in the death of the fetus pre-viability? 0.83

03:45:13.420 Can you repeat this again?

03:45:15.100 What did you just say?

03:45:16.140 You're saying no legal restrictions on abortion.

03:45:18.640 Correct.

03:45:19.380 And you're saying, well, it would just be inducing, but okay.

03:45:22.640 If you want to have abortion, it's going to be induced labor.

03:45:25.380 That's what I'm saying.

03:45:26.380 I don't know how else I can say it.

03:45:27.980 So there is a restriction.

03:45:28.880 So, basically, he's saying, is it okay to still have, like, let's just say if I'm three weeks pregnant.

03:45:35.000 If you define abortion as killing the baby all the time, killing, like intentionally killing the baby at six months or whatnot.

03:45:42.960 Okay, hypothetically, here, I'll make it super simple.

03:45:44.940 I'll make it super simple.

03:45:45.760 But you can also have a new slave, but if you don't want to carry the fetus, what's the goal? 0.93

03:45:49.980 Hold on. 1.00

03:45:50.340 The goal of abortion?

03:45:51.120 Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. 1.00

03:45:52.140 Do some women take a pill? 1.00

03:45:54.700 Now, this is usually only usable early on. 1.00

03:45:57.980 Right after.

03:45:58.660 Right.

03:45:58.880 Um, well, I'm not even talking plan B. There's a pill that, um, after plan B would prevent the

03:46:06.320 implantation or whatever, or whatever, you know what I'm, you know what I mean? Um, there is

03:46:11.840 another pill where, okay, the woman's already like plan B wouldn't work on a woman who's already 1.00

03:46:17.000 pregnant. Um, that wouldn't induce abortion if she's already, you know, the sperm's already, 1.00

03:46:21.520 whatever okay the pill that works for a period of weeks after she's pregnant nine weeks right 0.84

03:46:30.200 there's a there's another pill right let's say hypothetically there was a pill that worked all

03:46:34.580 the way up to nine months a woman just takes a pill boom abortion the fetus is dead uh would

03:46:39.240 you be okay with that no i don't want fetus to be dead if it's uh you see my question my question

03:46:45.600 to you is this what is the reason for a woman asking abortion she doesn't want to carry the

03:46:50.960 fetus she doesn't want to carry fetus for like and then take care of it correct that's why they're

03:46:57.660 getting rid of the fetus i understand that's that's that's an option past labor adoption but

03:47:04.300 and i'm and i'm not saying and i'm not saying go abort all children i'm saying teach women what

03:47:09.820 their options are you have to have in a society you have to have uh early births harm the child

03:47:16.120 They do, but the child remains alive

03:47:19.620 If you place value

03:47:22.420 If you place value

03:47:23.340 On the life of the fetus

03:47:24.580 Actually, I don't understand

03:47:27.480 The induced labor argument 1.00

03:47:29.280 So the woman 0.96

03:47:33.380 Has to go through essentially with a pregnancy 1.00

03:47:35.620 Anyways, or giving birth 0.91

03:47:37.660 Rather, sorry, not pregnancy 1.00

03:47:39.140 The woman has to give birth 1.00

03:47:41.260 Anyways 1.00

03:47:42.000 So why doesn't she just

03:47:45.200 see it through well that's my question too why doesn't she see it through you can talk to her

03:47:49.920 and you can try to convince her you said you you wanted to test the argument or whatever i'm saying

03:47:54.380 that legally you don't prohibit it but you do everything socially possible to convince women

03:47:59.420 to carry for example the fetus to viability or to give birth to the baby and give it out for

03:48:07.260 abortion so you have to do all social means before you have government interfere in commanding the 0.96

03:48:14.060 woman what to do with her 0.76

03:48:15.580 forget all that 1.00

03:48:16.620 you wanted to

03:48:18.580 test the argument

03:48:22.000 or something I don't know

03:48:23.560 was there something specific

03:48:24.900 on the abortion topic

03:48:26.660 I said no restriction on abortions

03:48:32.000 and you can do everything that's socially possible

03:48:33.920 to convince women

03:48:35.060 okay but assuming you fail to prevent it 0.97

03:48:38.120 a woman who is a week 0.99

03:48:40.000 away from otherwise giving birth

03:48:41.560 a week away then induced 0.56

03:48:43.960 labor that's what i said i said induced labor at the time of viability abortion equals induced

03:48:49.080 labor i don't know how many times and in what different words should i say it again okay uh 0.99

03:48:54.020 so but then the woman would have no say she doesn't want the kid she's she will not get the 0.94

03:49:00.020 kid it's like she loses she loses rights immediately uh should she have to pay child

03:49:06.420 support no the kid goes for adoption let me ask you a question a father who hooks up with a girl

03:49:13.680 and she gets pregnant and the woman chooses to keep the kid,

03:49:16.600 should he have to pay child support?

03:49:19.200 If the courts tell him to pay child support, he has to pay child support, of course. 1.00

03:49:23.560 So women always get an escape. 0.99

03:49:26.420 Men don't. Interesting how that works. 1.00

03:49:29.760 I mean, men participate as much as women do in making a baby. 0.95

03:49:34.980 Okay, so they shouldn't have an abortion right then? 1.00

03:49:37.640 Who shouldn't have an abortion? 0.52

03:49:39.760 I don't understand what you're saying then.

03:49:42.780 You said men have to pay child support.

03:49:46.240 I'm saying men equally participated in creating the baby.

03:49:49.340 Hold on.

03:49:49.880 But here's the difference, right? 0.97

03:49:51.220 Is now that the child is born, why shouldn't the woman pay child support? 0.99

03:49:59.460 Child support to whom? 0.97

03:50:00.900 Well, here, how about this scenario? 0.57

03:50:05.760 The woman does not want the kid, but the father does.

03:50:12.080 The father is willing to take custody of the child. 1.00

03:50:18.760 The woman doesn't want custody. 0.99

03:50:20.320 Should that woman then be forced to pay child support to the man? 1.00

03:50:24.400 If she relinquishes all rights to the kid, relinquishes.

03:50:29.520 It's not my child.

03:50:31.220 Not my child.

03:50:32.280 Not my child. 0.99

03:50:32.880 I wanted abortion. 1.00

03:50:34.480 Abortion takes away her rights. 1.00

03:50:36.800 Well, okay, but so why don't we give men a...

03:50:39.200 I know this is somewhat of a separate topic,

03:50:41.640 but why don't we give men a similar escape escape in what i don't understand but here's 0.69

03:50:48.420 okay if men should pay child support if the man doesn't want the kid and is like ah the woman can

03:50:55.460 just raise the kid he has to pay her child support but the woman gives birth and she's like ah i don't 1.00

03:51:01.160 want the kid the dad can just have the kid your position is the woman has no my position is if 1.00

03:51:07.160 she wanted to have an abortion she wanted to have an abortion and the child was born by induced 1.00

03:51:13.540 labor and she relinquished her rights no but the she does not have any right to the baby it's not

03:51:19.620 her baby the baby is posted for abortion or for for for adoption a father can adopt the baby or

03:51:26.580 someone else can adopt the baby so he's saying should the mom have to pay child support if there 0.73

03:51:30.400 If the baby is born and a man gets custody of the child, then a woman should pay child support, of course. 0.97

03:51:41.040 That defeats the purpose of an abortion, though. 1.00

03:51:43.980 Well, say it again.

03:51:45.800 Because the whole intention of an abortion is to kill the child, not to save the child. 0.92

03:51:50.100 Well, the intention of abortion is not to kill the child, but to take the child out of a woman's body. 0.93

03:51:56.760 Because otherwise... 0.93

03:51:58.100 That would be pointless to induce labor seven months, putting the child in harm's way for health conditions and stuff.

03:52:06.140 You might as well have the baby. 1.00

03:52:07.340 Then you negotiate it with the woman. 1.00

03:52:09.160 I don't want a child to be born prematurely. 0.99

03:52:13.220 I don't want abortions at all.

03:52:14.960 I'm just saying that you have social means, not through legal, not through legal, not through the government, but through social means to influence what women do with unwanted babies or when babies are born or what they do, what are alternatives to abortion.

03:52:34.960 There are social means.

03:52:36.460 You can do it socially.

03:52:37.680 You don't need to have government, government to dictate to you what you're going to do.

03:52:43.340 not government i mean i googled this and there is a distinction between abortion

03:52:49.560 and induced labor or medical induction of childbirth um so uh abortion does seem to

03:52:58.280 suggest that you kill the baby even if it's viable even i'm saying redefine it if you

03:53:06.960 There's four different kinds of abortions. 0.97

03:53:10.800 None of them are just taking the baby out. 1.00

03:53:13.620 Melissa purchased whatever six-sex premium hoodie for $59.99.

03:53:19.020 Finally made alive.

03:53:20.860 Huge supporter for you and Andrew.

03:53:23.440 Tie for your podcast and all of the entertainment.

03:53:28.180 Okay, so you want no...

03:53:30.280 How about this?

03:53:31.340 You want no restrictions on ending the pregnancy.

03:53:34.820 Does that make more sense?

03:53:35.720 No restrictions on ending the pregnancy 0.99

03:53:38.100 It's okay, because I think we're getting caught up on abortion 1.00

03:53:40.440 Correct, that is correct 0.69

03:53:43.080 But you would say that once there's viability

03:53:46.720 Then you would induce labor

03:53:50.080 Correct

03:53:50.560 And save the life, essentially 0.99

03:53:52.620 But prior to viability, then just kill the fetus 0.94

03:53:56.860 That's not what I'm saying 0.97

03:53:57.820 I'm saying you have social means to influence the woman

03:54:01.440 That's what I'm saying, socially 0.95

03:54:03.200 Not through the government

03:54:05.140 All right. Moving on to the next topic, then. Okay, so, oh, actually, this is somewhat related

03:54:12.180 to what we were talking about before. Who pays on a date? And you write, you don't think the man

03:54:16.880 always pays or always split 50-50 as a principle. You have a simple rule for deciding who should

03:54:23.360 pay. It works regardless of the circumstances. I have a guess as to what it is. Yeah, tell me.

03:54:30.440 Whoever asks, is that it?

03:54:32.980 No.

03:54:33.620 Okay, so what is it?

03:54:34.420 Not whoever asks.

03:54:35.280 What's your simple rule? 0.76

03:54:36.100 My rule is sometimes women, if men suggest to go out and women feel that men paying puts an obligation on them to further than participate in more activities, 1.00

03:54:53.900 then women should jump in and pay for the date to prevent this type of obligation because you

03:55:02.920 don't want to feel obligated that's my that's my rule if i feel that it's too much i'm saying okay

03:55:10.100 we're going to split this time yeah but why would you want to for i mean i actually this is a

03:55:16.540 criticism i have of men uh you are not owed sex just because a woman pays for the date

03:55:22.840 So I would question why a woman would want to even continue pursuing things with a man who she detects some sort of entitlement to sex because he paid for a date or a fancy date.

03:55:42.560 Men are not owed sex because he buys dinner.

03:55:45.720 I didn't say that depends on men who feels entitled for sex.

03:55:50.540 I said it depends on a woman who feels that it might put an obligation on her. 0.96

03:55:56.040 She does not feel comfortable. 1.00

03:55:57.400 If she does not feel comfortable, she jumps in and pays. 0.94

03:56:00.240 That's just it.

03:56:01.840 And for me, I don't feel comfortable, and I told you previously.

03:56:05.740 Well, she doesn't feel uncomfortable because the guy might be entitled,

03:56:08.620 which she shouldn't date that guy, but.

03:56:12.920 I'm jumping in, and I'm paying 50-50 because I want to learn who this guy is first

03:56:17.820 because it takes time to find out who this person is.

03:56:22.060 That's the point of dating.

03:56:24.760 The point of dating, not eating out. 1.00

03:56:28.120 Women should just reject the entire framework, though, 1.00

03:56:30.780 that because the guy paid for the date or whatever, 1.00

03:56:35.080 that either she thinks or he thinks that that means she's obligated to sex.

03:56:41.600 So she should just reject the entire framework and not introduce,

03:56:45.940 well, in order to alleviate this sense of obligation,

03:56:49.780 I feel I'm going to pay for the date.

03:56:52.580 Whether you pay for the date or not, 0.76

03:56:54.400 just don't feel obligated to have sex with a guy

03:56:58.480 because he paid for the date.

03:57:00.800 That's fine.

03:57:01.580 That's fine with me.

03:57:02.720 All I'm saying is I'm saying two people have to equally participate in relationships.

03:57:07.780 Equally participate in relationships.

03:57:11.820 Invest into relationships.

03:57:14.160 I mean, that's not possible. 0.63

03:57:15.780 If only men invest into relationships, then women do not, might not, I'm not saying do not, but might not treasure this relationship. 0.92

03:57:24.480 Yeah, but how do women invest in relationships? 0.94

03:57:27.200 If men invest monetarily, then a woman invests monetarily as well. 1.00

03:57:31.420 If men invest his time, then women invest her time as well.

03:57:35.040 If men gives her gift, she gives him a gift.

03:57:39.040 I guess.

03:57:40.680 That's just my point. 1.00

03:57:41.800 it shows that a woman treats you like a human being 1.00

03:57:45.920 and not using you to get money out of you 0.89

03:57:50.040 or to get some benefits out of you.

03:57:52.800 Yeah, but I don't think that there needs to be perfect reciprocity

03:57:58.960 in relationships.

03:58:01.260 I think, okay, one person likes gifts, the other person likes this,

03:58:04.700 and I don't think it has to be...

03:58:05.880 I agree with you.

03:58:06.640 She can give him something in exchange.

03:58:09.860 It doesn't matter.

03:58:10.560 Sure. Marriage, you think current laws and government policies have made legal marriage less attractive for many men.

03:58:18.340 You think there's a practical solution that almost nobody discusses.

03:58:22.460 You agree that many men have legitimate concerns about legal marriage.

03:58:26.120 You disagree that the practical solution is to avoid marriage altogether.

03:58:29.720 So what is your practical solution that almost nobody discusses?

03:58:33.220 My practical solution, there is contract law, not family law, contract law.

03:58:38.020 you write a contract with the woman what your relationships are going to be because when you

03:58:43.920 get married officially uh with the state or or whatever you are basically signing a default

03:58:51.180 contract for relationships okay instead of signing a default contract for both parties to feel

03:58:58.900 comfortable in the relationships you can write a contract that describes your relationships

03:59:03.680 and this will be a subject

03:59:05.680 to contract law. That's all I wanted

03:59:07.820 to say. And wait, do you

03:59:09.900 and then do you get married too?

03:59:12.320 No. So you just

03:59:13.340 You just sign a contract

03:59:15.400 You don't need

03:59:17.900 to sign. Have you talked to a lawyer about this?

03:59:19.960 Because this is probably unenforceable

03:59:21.440 I think it is enforceable

03:59:23.880 except maybe some

03:59:25.020 cases

03:59:27.660 that may be

03:59:29.980 related to children or something like that

03:59:31.720 but you can still discuss it, and you can still sign it.

03:59:37.520 There are some exceptions, but everything else, 0.72

03:59:40.400 that she does not get alimony from you,

03:59:43.780 that you can put in the contract.

03:59:49.080 I don't, so yeah, I don't know if,

03:59:52.640 I don't know if that's actually legally enforceable, maybe,

03:59:58.580 but like having a relationship contract like i i don't know if that would be enforceable

04:00:08.260 and then what would be the benefit to each individual person but uh interesting thought 0.63

04:00:16.260 there um your girlfriend oh okay so my girlfriend should come over and do my laundry uh you honestly

04:00:23.080 you honestly couldn't tell whether i was serious or trolling and either way you'd enjoy discussing

04:00:28.560 it okay what's what do you have on that well i don't think that women have to go to men's houses

04:00:35.140 and play wives okay before they have before they have relationships uh that are established that 1.00

04:00:43.420 they live together so that's uh that's you said i want her on the first date come and do the laundry

04:00:49.620 she should do my she should do my laundry on the first day okay okay i've done a dude's dishes the

04:00:55.040 first time I went and hung out with him. My ex-boyfriend, I did his laundry. I don't understand

04:00:59.440 that. Yeah, no, I'll never do it again. I don't think, I don't think it's a good idea. I've done

04:01:03.040 it to more than one guy. I walked in, I saw their dishes were dirty. I was like, what? The laundry

04:01:08.400 tells everything. Listen, you can, you can afford the housekeeper. You can afford the housekeeper

04:01:13.900 who can come to you. Can you straighten your mic, please? Okay. You can afford the housekeeper if

04:01:19.760 you need someone to do your laundry, if you can't do it yourself. I need to give something to a 1.00

04:01:23.100 woman to do she can't just be just she can't just be doom scrolling on her phone sometimes you got 1.00

04:01:29.840 to create a mess for a woman well as far as relationships concerned i even oops spit this 1.00

04:01:37.040 can you clean it up like if if everything's take mostly taken care of you got to make a little mess

04:01:44.560 Brian, look, I'm joking, but yeah, of course, if, if you have pain in your back, for example,

04:01:53.820 and you can't do it yourself, of course, a woman should, should, should go and help you out and do

04:02:03.320 something. But if you are yourself capable, seriously, she should come to your house and 0.99

04:02:13.160 do laundry for you well and you were serious about it you were not trolling right well i'm

04:02:18.680 well so you are trolling i say well hold on i say it in a somewhat humorous way yes and if a woman

04:02:24.360 didn't do my laundry the first time around that's not a deal breaker it would be better if she did

04:02:31.160 though uh i would definitely be like oh whoa i like her way more so it's good for her because i

04:02:37.360 like her more now and it's good for me because she did my laundry so you're looking for a house

04:02:42.020 Yeah. So you have a maid fetish. Okay. Hold on. I, I love the, I love this thing because I've got a 0.99

04:02:47.760 perfect rebuttal. So women say, women will say when they're dating, dating a man, there's a 0.93

04:02:52.360 couple of different arguments along this line. They'll say, I'm not your mom. I'm not your mom.

04:02:58.480 Or, uh, the, if you're dating a girl and you're not married or whatever, they'll be like, well, 1.00

04:03:04.060 that's wife behavior. Like I'll, that's wife shit. Well, it's like, okay, I can just flip 1.00

04:03:09.640 this around on women and be like I'm not your provider I'm not your father exactly agree with 0.63

04:03:16.640 you no okay but if you ask uh probably if you ask women uh should men pay on first dates and they 0.95

04:03:23.260 say yes I'm okay I get that you didn't but you're not all women now let's look at the other women's 0.85

04:03:31.820 answers for chair one men should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be

04:03:37.480 chivalrous. She agrees with all of them. Heather, men should pay on first dates, men should provide

04:03:43.180 protect, men should be chivalrous. Husband should be willing to die protecting you. 1.00

04:03:48.320 Alyssa, men should pay on first dates, men should provide protect, men should be chivalrous.

04:03:53.300 Husband should be willing to die protecting you. Same for you. You say yes to men should be 0.97

04:04:01.740 chivalrous uh and you yes to husband should be willing to die protecting you so i understand you

04:04:08.760 are fine with men not paying for first dates by the way uh your husband did he pay for the first

04:04:12.840 date i don't remember you probably did though so that aside though that aside so but but i understand 0.84

04:04:21.640 okay i i understand that there are some women who are okay with 50 50 or the man not paying or 1.00

04:04:27.940 whatever. However, men also have to be realistic when it comes to dating. I would argue the

04:04:33.820 majority of women do want men to pay for the first date. And some women, it's like, well, 1.00

04:04:41.380 he didn't pay, but I still like him and a little negative mark, but I'll still see him. Whereas

04:04:47.660 some women, it's 100% a deal breaker. The guy goes two checks on the date, it's over. It's over. 1.00

04:04:54.880 So for a lot of women, it is a big deal.

04:04:59.340 So you're saying, well, Brian, what was your framing there that she's not a housekeeper?

04:05:06.400 Well, great. 0.90

04:05:06.940 When women say they want a man to protect, I'll just do what you did. 0.99

04:05:11.740 I'm not your bodyguard. 1.00

04:05:13.340 You want me to be your bodyguard? 1.00

04:05:15.200 Like if somebody fucking steals your shit, that's on you. 1.00

04:05:18.260 You deal with it. 1.00

04:05:19.560 So when women say, oh, but I'm not a housekeeper and I'm not your personal chef and I'm not your mom. 0.94

04:05:24.340 Great. I'm not your father. I'm not your provider. I'm not your protector. I'm not your bodyguard. I'm not your mechanic. I'm not your IT guy. I'm not your plumber. I'm not the trash man. You can do all that shit. 0.68

04:05:36.720 Exactly. And first of all, and also, also, Brian, if you ask a woman, go do my laundry, and she responds to this way, you should dump her. 1.00

04:05:51.360 And she responds to the way, I'm not your mother, or she responds to, I'm not your housekeeper, if she responds to this way, if you ask her to do your laundry. 0.69

04:06:00.440 But you say she's not my housekeeper.

04:06:02.160 You said she comes to your house and does laundry.

04:06:05.240 You didn't say that you asked her to do laundry.

04:06:07.500 You said that she comes to your house and does laundry.

04:06:10.820 Those are two different things, right? 0.93

04:06:13.360 Wait, wait, wait.

04:06:14.200 Hold on.

04:06:14.620 There's a couple different things here.

04:06:16.600 Wow.

04:06:17.260 So there's a couple different ways that the laundry thing can manifest. 1.00

04:06:24.820 She can be familiar with the podcast, be like, Brian, I will do all of that shit. 0.99

04:06:29.820 I love you, Brian. 0.99

04:06:30.720 You're so great. 1.00

04:06:31.360 i'm gonna come see you and i'm gonna do all that shit for you and then she just fucking does it 0.99

04:06:36.220 she just does it okay or or there's other scenarios where you you kind of like gently 0.99

04:06:43.800 with the gentle guidance uh gentle guidance you're like oh you know what i gotta do my laundry

04:06:51.140 and then you look at her and then you look at the laundry room and then you walk away

04:06:57.940 Well, and that's up to her to decide

04:07:02.140 But I don't think she should

04:07:04.240 Okay, but so

04:07:06.400 Here's where I'm confused

04:07:08.340 On one hand, you say you don't think she should

04:07:11.580 But then you say to me

04:07:13.140 Brian, the woman who wouldn't do it 1.00

04:07:15.240 You shouldn't date her 1.00

04:07:16.300 The woman who wouldn't do that 1.00

04:07:20.040 No, I said 1.00

04:07:20.860 If the woman tells you she's not 1.00

04:07:22.620 If you tell her to do my laundry 0.96

04:07:24.080 And she tells you she's not your mother 1.00

04:07:25.840 You shouldn't date her

04:07:27.120 But that's what you say.

04:07:28.840 You say she's not your housekeeper.

04:07:32.960 She's not your maid.

04:07:33.900 I'm saying it to you, but she should not say it to you.

04:07:37.020 I'm saying it to you, but not.

04:07:39.600 I'm telling you, my argument is she's not your housekeeper.

04:07:43.000 She's not your housekeeper.

04:07:44.180 This is my argument.

04:07:45.400 But if she tells you, I'm not your housekeeper.

04:07:49.240 Okay, but then, so she shouldn't do it.

04:07:53.540 She shouldn't say that.

04:07:54.740 This is a separate conversation.

04:07:56.060 Okay, fine.

04:07:56.480 she shouldn't say that but she's still not going to do it right did you ask her or what what

04:08:01.940 happened again you gently nudged her i'm like yo let's do something sure okay okay you just need

04:08:09.740 to date and marry the girl that walked through your bedroom maybe to the bathroom or somewhere

04:08:13.780 and noticed that they were dirty and just put them on that's reality in the real world i walked

04:08:20.840 right through i saw his stuff was dirty i was like you know what i can do to help out because

04:08:25.620 he's in the shower we're fixing to go somewhere i can do that for him it shouldn't be that he has

04:08:31.260 to prompt a woman oh i gotta do laundry you've already missed your opportunity he said he shouldn't

04:08:37.040 even have to ask her she shouldn't be asking him on the first day should not yes on the first day

04:08:43.780 that's right yes on the first day you guys i'm sorry that i'm different but i have i have done

04:08:51.800 laundry on the first date. I have done dishes on the first date without being prompted because I

04:08:57.080 knew we would want to do something else. Okay. But the thing is, if you really like that guy,

04:09:03.060 you'll do it. That I did not say, and you're saying as if I did. But hold on. I'm not trying

04:09:08.880 to date you. I'm trying to date the cohort of women, which is the majority of women that has

04:09:15.480 an expectation that men pay on first dates. So if I'm operating 0.92

04:09:19.400 in a dating climate where 60-70% of women 0.98

04:09:23.400 expect men to pay the entire date, they expect men to be

04:09:27.400 chivalrous and do all these things, in that dynamic, how could it be

04:09:31.460 wrong for me to be like, yeah, do my laundry? And 30% don't.

04:09:36.840 Well. You said 60%

04:09:39.660 expect that and 30% so you. So I gotta reject

04:09:43.300 70%. 1.00

04:09:43.900 I got to reject 70% of the women? 1.00

04:09:45.680 Yes. 1.00

04:09:45.900 So the majority of women are wrong, is what you're saying, about wanting men to pay on first dates. 1.00

04:09:51.820 I don't have an issue with it. 1.00

04:09:52.840 Wrong for you, maybe.

04:09:53.520 No, no.

04:09:53.940 Hold on.

04:09:54.260 Just to be clear.

04:09:54.940 I don't have an issue paying for the first date.

04:09:57.920 I don't have an issue providing.

04:09:59.620 I don't have an issue with any of that. 0.99

04:10:01.400 I don't even have an issue with a woman wanting it so long as she is holding up her end of the deal. 1.00

04:10:09.740 What's her end of the deal? 1.00

04:10:10.740 Her end of the deal. 1.00

04:10:11.400 You want traditional treatment.

04:10:12.780 you should be you should be traditional man i feel like i knew that's what you were getting to

04:10:18.440 you you are against women wanting men to be the traditional men the provider this and that but

04:10:24.680 they're not the traditional one exactly they don't want to cook they don't want to clean

04:10:28.320 they on social media twerking all there you go you know so i get what you're saying that's what

04:10:34.180 i'm saying and i feel like nowadays that's what i'm saying there's like 50 genders right and too

04:10:38.940 many genders people dispute gender roles i feel like genders i feel like date who has the same

04:10:44.040 interest and same beliefs as you so me i naturally i like to cook i like to clean i'm a very clean 0.98

04:10:49.220 when i keep my house clean if i go over your house and your shit dirty i'm gonna clean your 0.98

04:10:52.820 shit up true i'm a day i'm a hard-working woman i date hard-working men and but it's just in my 0.99

04:10:58.580 nature to be caring to be hospitable so if this man's working hard he don't feel like doing a 0.91

04:11:04.760 dish i'm doing dishes i'm cooking and making sure you got food when you come home i'm running your

04:11:08.140 bath all the time and does he have to ask you for those things thank you you do it because why

04:11:13.420 because i want to do it because you love guess what i ain't doing that for everybody no and you 0.98

04:11:18.080 shouldn't do it for anybody i think there are a lot there's a lot of traditional women out there

04:11:23.420 there are there well there are i mean i come across a lot of them i mean me myself i was always

04:11:29.820 even though i worked just because i wanted to and i had hobbies and i like had an entrepreneurial

04:11:34.660 spirit you know designing things whatever i always cook i would rather i prefer that i do

04:11:41.400 i prefer to cook and do all that a lot there's that way it gets done right to see i'm all about

04:11:47.800 that a lot of women they know it's a different generation it's a different generation tradition

04:11:53.160 looks so much different like tradition back then and that's why women they want to be taking care 0.98

04:11:58.320 of and stuff because and that goes back to the women's rights shit back then women couldn't get 0.87

04:12:03.120 a job that they were they were stay-at-home moms you know they were the wives and stuff like that 0.97

04:12:07.140 and then I assume that most women like let's just say you go through a divorce right because you 1.00

04:12:12.380 couldn't get a job and shit like that you can't provide for yourself you know so women want to 1.00

04:12:17.120 equal rights to be able to work so if you want equal rights to work that means that you're 0.95

04:12:22.660 bringing in income so if men feel like okay you want to be you want to have the same rights as a

04:12:27.780 man then you shouldn't expect a man to be that traditional man you know what I'm saying like 0.86

04:12:32.880 But women nowadays, they still expect men to be the traditional men, to pay for every damn thing, but they don't want to still live in those traditional roles as the woman that takes care of the house and takes care of the man. 0.99

04:12:44.700 If you expect traditional relationships, you behave like a traditional woman. 0.97

04:12:49.420 But that's the problem with dating. 1.00

04:12:50.880 But he has one little caveat.

04:12:54.060 He's not marrying you.

04:12:56.040 You understand? 0.95

04:12:56.700 You're just a girlfriend.

04:12:58.180 That's what his thesis is. 1.00

04:12:59.480 I feel like people saying that cooking and cleaning and stuff is wifey shit. 1.00

04:13:06.100 I don't label that as, like, wifey shit. 1.00

04:13:08.960 I feel like that's just normal shit. 1.00

04:13:11.040 Yeah. 0.99

04:13:11.600 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

04:13:11.940 And I feel like, too, like, so are you saying that you're going to withhold all this shit until you get married? 1.00

04:13:17.800 Withhold what shit? 1.00

04:13:18.960 Like cooking, cleaning, caring for the man, catering to him. 1.00

04:13:23.500 No, I do think.

04:13:24.260 But you expect him to pay all the bills and to finance dates.

04:13:27.160 Who said I expect to pay all the bills?

04:13:29.200 We're not talking about you. When I say you, I'm not talking about you.

04:13:31.940 If you go into traditional relationships, then you have dynamics of traditional relationships.

04:13:36.580 If you're going into non-traditional relationships, but modern relationships,

04:13:43.120 where everyone takes responsibility for whatever in the family they can do best. 0.97

04:13:50.160 But the women who want those modern relationships that you're talking about? 1.00

04:13:55.120 So, cause I understand what you're saying where there's like, okay, if you want a traditional 1.00

04:13:58.880 relationship, find somebody who wants a traditional relationship. 0.62

04:14:01.580 The issue is, is that the women who want the modern relationship down the road, uh, or who 0.99

04:14:09.480 claim they want a modern relationship, they don't do the work to make it 50 50 in the 0.97

04:14:17.560 ways they could.

04:14:18.580 So they still, because it's very easy to just be like, okay, well, men pay for dates.

04:14:22.540 They still want men to pay for dates.

04:14:23.860 they still want men to carry the initiative 1.00

04:14:25.980 burden. I mean, here,

04:14:27.480 I don't know if I'll get a straight answer for you.

04:14:31.320 Should the man

04:14:32.060 go for the kiss first?

04:14:36.180 I don't know. Can't tell you.

04:14:38.440 If the man should go for the kiss first.

04:14:40.780 I don't know if the

04:14:42.160 man should go for the kiss first.

04:14:43.580 Okay, fine. In your dating experience, 0.97

04:14:46.300 what was your

04:14:47.840 expectation when you were

04:14:49.720 dating? I know you've been married for

04:14:51.240 33. Forever.

04:14:53.340 So what was your expectation?

04:14:56.340 It's very easy to have never been on a date in 30 plus years.

04:15:01.780 Like when I say, obviously, you probably go on dates with your husband.

04:15:04.920 I mean, dates with a new person, first dates.

04:15:08.480 It's very kind of easy to just, you know, maybe change your tune a little bit.

04:15:13.960 When you were dating, though, you didn't expect men to pay for dates.

04:15:18.760 You didn't expect men to make the first move.

04:15:21.340 There were different times

04:15:24.280 We were both students

04:15:25.300 In Soviet Russia

04:15:26.980 We were students in Soviet Russia

04:15:29.940 He dies, he dies

04:15:30.780 Was that before or after the Berlin Wall fell?

04:15:34.560 After

04:15:34.920 After the Berlin Wall fell

04:15:38.280 Yeah

04:15:39.060 So

04:15:41.180 Nobody had any money

04:15:43.760 There was no expectation

04:15:44.860 But my husband brought me apples

04:15:47.700 The guy goes in 1.00

04:15:50.260 or the girl goes in 0.78

04:15:52.280 on the lips or on the cheek 0.99

04:15:54.640 on the lips

04:15:56.580 for a kiss

04:15:57.240 you know I would want a guy to do it

04:16:00.780 I would want to

04:16:01.900 but if

04:16:03.740 he doesn't do it on time I would do it

04:16:06.520 if he doesn't

04:16:08.580 do it

04:16:08.900 if he doesn't do it

04:16:10.940 appropriate time

04:16:13.840 I would do it 0.99

04:16:14.580 next topic the barista versus the career woman

04:16:17.880 uh you think one of the assumptions behind the conclusion usually goes unchallenged

04:16:23.440 and you'd enjoy discussing it correct uh you are usually when you are comparing barista and

04:16:31.860 career woman you are usually attributing to the barista that she is like an eight

04:16:39.120 or a nine and the career woman is usually a five or a six and you are comparing them based on that

04:16:47.200 because you are not taking two equal women.

04:16:52.120 You are taking women who are at the beginning already differ in your eyes.

04:16:58.160 And that is your usual argument, as I remember. 0.92

04:17:03.560 Yeah, but I don't think doing that is incorrect because it points, 1.00

04:17:07.640 I think women overestimate the value proposition 1.00

04:17:11.480 that their career is going to like bolster their total attractiveness level to a man and they're 1.00

04:17:18.780 like thinking in their head well i'm a boss babe and i got my money and i got career therefore

04:17:24.180 i'm going to be uh that makes me more attractive than the hot chick at mcdonald's the hot chick

04:17:31.480 at mcdonald's always beats you almost always beats you um and so now but going i i'm happy 0.95

04:17:40.020 to engage with uh well brian let's equalize it so okay yeah let's equalize it the woman who's an

04:17:45.360 eight who um and are we going to equalize age too yeah okay twins sure okay so equal looks

04:17:57.020 equal age uh one of them works at mcdonald's and the other is what a career uh boss babe what kind

04:18:05.620 And another is a teacher, say, for example.

04:18:09.520 Teacher.

04:18:10.180 Teachers don't make good money, typically.

04:18:12.680 Okay.

04:18:13.080 Professor?

04:18:13.700 Who makes good money?

04:18:14.300 Well, I mean, college professors make a bit better money than like... 1.00

04:18:16.740 She works at... 1.00

04:18:19.140 She's a software engineer.

04:18:20.700 Software engineer. 0.91

04:18:21.620 Okay.

04:18:22.680 Yeah, something familiar.

04:18:24.320 Why not?

04:18:25.240 Okay.

04:18:26.020 Makes good money.

04:18:27.620 Yeah.

04:18:28.420 Okay.

04:18:29.480 Okay.

04:18:30.100 And one is a barista.

04:18:31.300 They are identical.

04:18:32.360 now when you take out the barista you can expect she would want your resources to be 0.96

04:18:41.700 flowing to her she would want to go with you to the mall buy stuff when i'm with the barista for 1.00

04:18:49.960 example well you are i'm saying that that women women have different requirements right a woman 1.00

04:18:58.440 And a woman who is a software engineer, for example, she would go with you out and she would not be expecting to transfer your funds into her pocket. 1.00

04:19:13.360 And she wouldn't be interested in things that a barista would otherwise be interested.

04:19:18.960 I have some contention here on that.

04:19:20.960 Yeah, tell me.

04:19:21.780 I mean, that could be true.

04:19:25.880 But then I could also flip the argument to, well, the barista, it's to some degree easier to please her financially, I suppose. 0.99

04:19:36.500 Whereas the woman who she herself is a high income earner, she herself has a certain taste for luxury.

04:19:43.120 And if she expects on top of her own spending habits that her man is going to spend, give her gifts that is somewhat commensurate to her lifestyle, the woman who's a barista is going to be impressed.

04:20:00.440 You take her to like, say, a lower level experience, whereas the woman who's perhaps wealthy, her expectations may not be or rather her expectations might be higher because she is wealthy.

04:20:12.560 you are making an assumption about what you're also making but you're also making an assumption 0.89

04:20:17.800 that the barista is like oh take me to the mall and buy shit for me when maybe that's not even 0.68

04:20:25.260 the case there's plenty of women who uh have barista jobs or work at mcdonald's where 0.99

04:20:31.920 they're not gonna expect that of you perhaps perhaps but you know if you are dating for 1.00

04:20:38.360 relationships and you have children with a woman who's like they are twins right one is a barista

04:20:47.600 and another and you want this this woman also to homeschool your children right yeah she doesn't 1.00

04:20:53.740 need a two thousand dollar purse yeah barista you want to homeschool your children so whom

04:21:00.760 would you rather have homeschool your children a woman who has well now well what's interesting 0.87

04:21:07.420 about this is if we're going to create these scenarios where we're controlling for basically 0.80

04:21:12.340 everything what i would point to you what i would point out is the barista is much more willing to

04:21:19.340 give up her career than the software engineer boss babe career oriented woman but so you're saying

04:21:27.480 okay we we we compose all the characteristics in favor of the boss babe no i'm not saying in favor 0.59

04:21:37.360 of the boss baby. I'm not saying that boss baby

04:21:39.420 is going to be better. I'm saying is

04:21:41.420 that

04:21:41.740 you cannot

04:21:44.300 proposition that 0.70

04:21:51.020 a woman who has no career 1.00

04:21:53.200 is always better than a woman with 1.00

04:21:55.400 a career. My position 1.00

04:21:56.720 is not that the woman 1.00

04:21:59.460 who has no career is always better

04:22:01.480 than the woman who does have a career. 1.00

04:22:03.980 But it would be the case

04:22:05.600 that if we're talking about 0.67

04:22:07.040 general expectations the woman who is career oriented now you're what you're doing is you're

04:22:13.480 taking away well okay all things being equal okay so then what we're doing here is the career

04:22:19.940 oriented woman the career oriented woman um she's completely okay stopping her career yes i've seen

04:22:29.220 i stopped my career my second child was born i stopped my career okay i know other i mean i know

04:22:36.500 it's anecdotal anecdotal uh in reality though i'm saying in reality but in reality who's more

04:22:43.560 likely to i know plenty in reality career women who stopped their career for children in reality

04:22:50.300 which woman is more likely to be willing to uh give up her career and be okay with it 1.00

04:22:58.400 the barista or the woman who's uh two years away from getting partner at her law firm 0.99

04:23:04.000 which one in this case i agree with you she might want to go be a partner if this is her priority 0.91

04:23:12.280 but i'm saying for many women if you date someone you choose a woman for yourself right

04:23:18.220 you don't have to choose someone whose priority is not children that's up to you

04:23:24.880 okay but we can you're choosing women whose priority that's why you're dating

04:23:30.860 He's giving you the scenario. He's giving you the scenario. He's basically making a point that the barista is going to be more likely to give up her career because she hasn't built more success than the career woman. Because the career woman has more to lose than the barista. The barista just has a job that, you know, like a barista job, you know. So that's basically what he's saying.

04:23:53.540 Okay, I agree with that.

04:23:57.300 She would gladly give up her barista job.

04:24:00.420 Oh, that's your answer.

04:24:01.980 That's what he was looking for.

04:24:04.500 What I was saying, I was saying it's not necessarily always, always, 0.97

04:24:09.340 that women who have careers, they have to be, or they sort of,

04:24:13.780 for many men, women who have careers have advantages.

04:24:17.380 I've seen those men.

04:24:18.420 I lived among them.

04:24:20.900 All of my friends, they are just from, I understand it's anecdotal evidence.

04:24:27.660 I understand your statement.

04:24:28.580 I understand this is anecdotal evidence.

04:24:30.400 That was my situation. 1.00

04:24:31.720 Women stopped their jobs. 1.00

04:24:34.400 They stopped their jobs for children because children are more important. 1.00

04:24:38.800 That's just it.

04:24:40.660 Without his hesitation.

04:24:44.220 He's talking about for a man, not the kids.

04:24:47.380 Say it again.

04:24:47.860 he's talking about ending the career for the relationship for the man to be you know submissive

04:24:54.160 to the man or whatever which is likely which is likely that barista would give it up before

04:24:59.520 barista will give it up not just likely but 100 percent that's what he would she will give it up

04:25:04.200 that's yeah that's what he's that's what he's getting at we look i i would give you an example

04:25:09.800 as follows i think that and you know if we just create hypotheticals where everything is equal

04:25:16.980 It's just, okay, then they're equal, I guess.

04:25:19.720 But in the real world, we don't really see that.

04:25:22.400 So if we completely equalize for everything, I don't know if it's particularly helpful in actually establishing, well, how would this actually, what are we actually trying to communicate or establish here?

04:25:36.320 my argument is not that all women who have a career or who have some degree of career orientation

04:25:44.800 are terrible partners and you shouldn't date them that's not my position my position is simply 0.99

04:25:51.160 i think women tend to overestimate the value that their career has like in terms of making a man 0.99

04:25:59.460 not making a man but will a man assess a woman as more or less attractive because of her career 1.00

04:26:06.420 that's my argument so are there women who are baristas and terrible partners yes are there 0.90

04:26:12.920 women who are high-powered attorneys and would make a good great girlfriend or wife yes my my 0.97

04:26:19.020 primary issue is that i think women sometimes get caught up and they think that their career

04:26:26.520 or their money makes them more attractive to men when it's like really low on the totem pole of

04:26:33.640 what, what men care about. And so like women, even if they're high powered, make a, make a bunch of 1.00

04:26:43.340 money. Oftentimes they're not going to pay for dates. They still want the guy to pay. Uh, they 1.00

04:26:49.980 oftentimes want to date a guy who makes more than them. Like when men make a lot of money, they'll 0.98

04:26:55.460 date a girl who doesn't make money you don't really see that quite as often in 0.81

04:27:00.260 the reverse so let's let's do a hypothetical okay you have twins one of

04:27:09.260 them is a barista and one of them is a career woman and career woman is willing 0.64

04:27:13.520 to give up just like the barista willing to give up her career to be a family 0.99

04:27:19.560 woman with children whom would you choose yeah she will not make any more 1.00

04:27:23.220 money she's going to be home stay stay home wife what who would you choose for my children for you

04:27:31.780 for your children correct well this is different than from who i would date but you said that you

04:27:38.280 are dating with intention to build long-term relationship that's what you said i think i think

04:27:44.220 you can guide your children to some degree differently

04:27:48.420 what do you mean guide your children to something you're okay but

04:27:54.100 how how i would you don't have to spend time on my on my uh

04:27:59.240 no if uh if uh if it's tiring you i mean

04:28:04.440 okay oh my god bro um

04:28:09.940 so okay the question is hypothetically they're both exactly the same yes but that oh my god

04:28:18.160 they both are exactly the same

04:28:20.440 I'll answer that question but then I'll just 0.91

04:28:22.580 fucking answer the real scenario 0.98

04:28:24.560 so would I prefer a daughter 1.00

04:28:26.580 who's a barista but she gets 0.93

04:28:28.600 married young to the love of her life

04:28:30.680 and has kids young

04:28:32.480 and stays with him forever 1.00

04:28:34.060 or a woman who waits until she's 30 1.00

04:28:36.600 35 fucks around 1.00

04:28:38.680 a whole bunch and has a really great career 1.00

04:28:40.800 I pick the daughter 1.00

04:28:42.620 who's a barista 0.99

04:28:43.440 that's the more likely outcome

04:28:46.040 If you want to completely control for, like, you want, okay, everything else being equal.

04:28:51.280 Everything else being equal.

04:28:52.900 Okay, everything else being equal and they're just as likely, then yes, conceivably the woman with a career, my daughter who has a career, well, hmm, everything else being equal.

04:29:04.420 Is her career stressful?

04:29:06.140 Does it prevent her from meeting good men?

04:29:08.400 I mean.

04:29:09.880 Why are we talking about daughter?

04:29:12.540 I said.

04:29:13.620 You brought up what I would want for my daughters.

04:29:16.040 I didn't say daughters.

04:29:17.460 I said, if you are dating, you are dating.

04:29:20.520 You have to choose between two.

04:29:21.900 No, no, no.

04:29:22.300 You said, did she not say what I love for my kids?

04:29:25.700 You said twin daughters?

04:29:27.100 No, no.

04:29:27.620 I could have sworn she said.

04:29:29.540 I could have sworn she was talking about my kids, but okay.

04:29:33.960 No, twin sisters who are identical. 0.99

04:29:36.420 One of them is a barista and another one is a career woman. 0.56

04:29:40.440 Okay?

04:29:40.880 Both of them are willing to give up their job and stay home.

04:29:44.200 I'm pretty sure the chat, some people.

04:29:45.880 which one which one would you choose identical and they are honestly it doesn't really matter

04:29:53.180 all that much there's like i'll answer it like this uh conceivably if they're exactly identical

04:29:59.960 um and identical in the sense that one of them isn't going to um one of them isn't going to

04:30:09.540 like i've had women on the show who are like but like i just wasn't fulfilled just being a housewife

04:30:17.500 like i wanted that extra level of of stimulation from like what i could get from a career but all

04:30:25.360 else being equal consider well hold on all else being equal do they both have the same amount of

04:30:31.100 savings why savings are well do they have the exact same amount of money all else being equal

04:30:38.080 right? Because what I would argue is

04:30:40.060 okay, if the barista has

04:30:41.700 X amount...

04:30:43.980 Klain donated $100.

04:30:46.280 Thank you, man. Is this the quality

04:30:47.860 of intelligence we get from Russia?

04:30:50.140 No wonder it failed.

04:30:51.820 Chair one, you don't have a pot of gold

04:30:54.100 down there. Already expired.

04:30:56.700 Sorry, Brian.

04:30:57.840 Andrew would have destroyed all of them already.

04:31:01.160 Yeah.

04:31:02.520 Thank you, Klain.

04:31:04.000 Who's Andrew?

04:31:05.580 So, okay. 1.00

04:31:08.080 conceivably then the woman who has uh she's made more money so she has more money right

04:31:15.100 is that granted in the hypothetical because you said all else being equal well they have 0.98

04:31:21.200 they have different intelligence because one of course they have different because one is a barista

04:31:26.640 and another one became professional woman somehow so they started identically and then wait but so

04:31:33.020 Hold on, if they have different intelligence.

04:31:36.100 They look the same.

04:31:38.160 They look the same.

04:31:39.820 Okay, but if they have different, hold on.

04:31:41.580 But now you're giving a bolster.

04:31:45.100 Correct.

04:31:45.380 You're giving a bolster to the.

04:31:46.800 Yes, I'm giving the bolster.

04:31:48.340 Okay, then fine.

04:31:49.360 I thought it was obvious. 1.00

04:31:50.220 The woman who's more intelligent.

04:31:51.040 I thought it was obvious.

04:31:54.580 It wouldn't be obvious. 1.00

04:31:55.600 The woman who built a career.

04:31:57.660 If they're identical, then their intelligence capacity is the same, is it not?

04:32:01.920 No, it's not.

04:32:03.020 I thought they were identical.

04:32:04.780 Well, previously you were arguing that they have difference in their looks.

04:32:09.680 Well, then they must have a different temperament, too, then.

04:32:13.200 Didn't you argue that they had different...

04:32:15.060 Oh, my God.

04:32:15.560 Okay, I got to move on. 0.98

04:32:16.520 I'm going to blow my brains out. 0.73

04:32:17.780 Move it on. 1.00

04:32:18.380 No, but I got more fucking notes from you. 1.00

04:32:20.640 No, don't go through my fucking notes. 1.00

04:32:22.540 No, we're going through your fucking notes. 1.00

04:32:24.360 We're going through your fucking notes. 1.00

04:32:26.220 First of all, I'm really tired here. 0.99

04:32:29.360 It's really hot.

04:32:30.480 It's hot as balls.

04:32:31.180 it's really hot here 0.92

04:32:33.720 it's just horrible

04:32:36.160 I have difficulty breathing

04:32:39.400 I have difficulty thinking

04:32:40.860 my brain

04:32:43.100 melts 1.00

04:32:44.060 oh shit 0.99

04:32:47.380 I want to know what the other topic 0.99

04:32:51.560 was though

04:32:52.260 well how about this

04:32:53.860 I'll come back

04:32:55.340 I'll come back

04:32:56.580 I do

04:32:58.860 just don't

04:33:00.340 no I do

04:33:01.020 come back to me 1.00

04:33:03.000 you have so many women 0.99

04:33:05.380 she wants to speak 1.00

04:33:07.160 she came here from 1.00

04:33:08.260 he will get to me 1.00

04:33:10.620 he will get to me

04:33:11.980 it's not my fault

04:33:13.360 it's Putin's fault

04:33:15.920 he's going through your notes

04:33:18.300 and I have notes too

04:33:21.440 he'll get to me

04:33:22.520 calm down

04:33:23.460 I'll get to everybody

04:33:26.060 I'll get to everybody

04:33:27.880 And I know that. I don't need you to speak

04:33:30.000 for me. I promise.

04:33:32.000 I understand. You're right.

04:33:33.580 In Soviet Russia.

04:33:38.320 You're right.

04:33:38.920 Are you KGB?

04:33:41.200 Are you ex-KGB?

04:33:43.420 KGB.

04:33:45.160 And Mossad.

04:33:46.780 Mossad too.

04:33:49.360 Alright. 0.50

04:33:52.200 Mossad and KGB.

04:33:53.660 Both of them. 0.65

04:33:54.120 Alright. Here, let's do this.

04:33:55.900 um alex you're saying you you uh you disagree with all these except for the first three

04:34:05.220 i mean i think so yeah that's pretty reasonable i guess i looked at it okay let's do this going

04:34:11.120 around the table going on the table i got all of you here so we'll do a few of these

04:34:14.660 minimum yearly income to be your future husband i think i put down 200 000 okay uh what about you

04:34:21.440 me yes you i said for me it's enough section section eight and ssi uh you did right you

04:34:29.540 would accept section eight okay well and ssi yeah uh what about you can you straighten in

04:34:35.020 your microphone please sorry about it it's okay comrade it's okay comrade uh it's negotiable for 0.97

04:34:41.180 me so okay okay so the reason that i say it's negotiable it's because you fuck brett i didn't 0.92

04:34:50.340 i wish i did guys she was on rock guys i should have on brett michaels i did see his wiener though 0.98

04:34:57.780 you saw was it it was nice how did you see it because it was out on the show was it no we were

04:35:08.060 it was private and combo it was the very last you were in combo with lead singer of the band poison

04:35:14.140 Every rose has its thorn

04:35:17.980 You were Cabo

04:35:20.120 Bret Michaels, lead singer 1.00

04:35:21.880 His size penis 1.00

04:35:24.640 And you didn't have sex with him? 1.00

04:35:25.900 No, he turned on old timer football 0.96

04:35:28.240 I think he falls asleep to that

04:35:29.500 And it was chill

04:35:30.260 Old timer football

04:35:32.220 Just football reels

04:35:35.200 You know, certain TV shows

04:35:38.620 People like to fall asleep to 0.95

04:35:39.560 He was hanging out with his wing out

04:35:41.100 well i mean there was some messing around yes but there we didn't have any protection

04:35:47.800 so and i asked and we were all tested blood tested and everything and so i said well did

04:35:53.100 you get tested he's like oh well i don't know i know i get every six months for diabetes whatever

04:35:58.560 but anyways and then his girlfriend called right but would you would you date a guy who

04:36:03.480 who makes who works at mcdonald's so i don't like to date at all so if i'm going to be in a

04:36:11.480 relationship it will be for like we would so okay let me get can i give you a hypothetical sure so

04:36:18.920 say you and i are going to date right yeah i don't know how big is the labia um i don't know i only

04:36:25.560 date women with i know i know you like uh long labia i don't even know is that the lips or the

04:36:30.600 middle part what it's inside the tiffany pull up the photo show them the photo show them the photo 0.83

04:36:38.920 okay yeah what is it go ahead pull it up tiffany

04:36:51.320 all right audi any okay okay so what part is the labia the the middle part the meat part

04:36:59.560 So that's the lips then 1.00

04:37:02.800 So an Audi, a woman with an Audi 0.99

04:37:04.540 That's, yeah 0.99

04:37:05.420 Big labia on the left, Audi on the left 0.89

04:37:08.540 That whole thing is considered a labia 0.63

04:37:11.000 Raise your hand if you have an Audi

04:37:12.720 I'm not

04:37:14.360 I don't even

04:37:15.780 Don't get it

04:37:18.520 I don't get it

04:37:19.180 Anyways

04:37:21.100 Hypothetically we're dating

04:37:22.900 I'm getting to this negotiable

04:37:25.480 Because the only way

04:37:27.680 In this day and age

04:37:29.440 that I would date. It would be a business-like combination. Okay, here, we're going to date for

04:37:36.740 24 months. We're going to do, we're going to work together. We're going to create together. We're

04:37:41.540 going to make money together. And after that two years- You split? No, you have the right to renew,

04:37:48.040 to keep building together. Okay? Yeah. So that's why it's not a number. So it's like whoever,

04:37:54.980 if i want to get in a relationship down the road it has to be a i'm i'm just not going to be

04:38:02.100 traditional so i'm more business-minded and that i want to create with the person okay and build

04:38:09.180 together just give me a number give me a number it depends too what state are we talking about

04:38:15.000 california are we talking about midwest let's do california i don't know lovely okay next

04:38:23.480 I'm going to say from experience, probably like 200.

04:38:26.060 Okay.

04:38:26.420 What about 200K?

04:38:27.500 Yes, but I'm not getting married again, so I'm just, you know, if I was going to get serious with somebody.

04:38:32.980 Sure.

04:38:33.500 Okay.

04:38:33.640 So I understand you're not going to get married again, but like for a long-term relationship.

04:38:37.820 Yeah.

04:38:37.980 I mean, around 2K, 200.

04:38:40.400 200K.

04:38:40.980 200.

04:38:42.160 200K.

04:38:43.680 I think that's reasonable for somebody around my age, you know, that's established.

04:38:50.060 Yeah.

04:38:50.500 unless they don't have 0.99

04:38:52.780 ex-wives and kids

04:38:54.240 I don't make that much money right now

04:38:56.260 but I did make a lot of money

04:38:57.560 I made over $100,000

04:39:00.740 that's not $200,000 though

04:39:02.960 right

04:39:03.660 what about you?

04:39:06.920 I said $40,000 to $50,000

04:39:08.620 $40,000 to $50,000

04:39:10.100 so we got $200,000

04:39:11.640 $200,000

04:39:15.520 $100,000

04:39:16.380 really?

04:39:20.500 200K?

04:39:21.740 I mean...

04:39:22.380 How much do you make?

04:39:24.100 I'm not going to say.

04:39:26.120 Is it over...

04:39:27.240 Do you make six figures?

04:39:28.560 Well, I got a job offer for six figures before I left for this experience, yes. 0.79

04:39:32.920 Wait, you were a nanny?

04:39:34.020 Yeah, but like high-profile nanny. 1.00

04:39:36.120 Do nannies make six figures? 1.00

04:39:38.160 They make $250 in Newport Beach.

04:39:40.640 Interesting. 0.84

04:39:41.560 Yeah, yes, girl. 1.00

04:39:42.860 They make good money. 1.00

04:39:43.360 But you're hot and young, so I don't know if the wives would. 1.00

04:39:48.220 But, yeah. 1.00

04:39:50.500 was the job offer for six figures uh it was a rota nanny job so two weeks on two weeks off it

04:39:57.640 was a what a rota nanny job so you work like you live with the family for two weeks and work for 0.98

04:40:03.220 two weeks straight and then you have two weeks off in 200k damn guys i don't want to make no you 0.89

04:40:11.400 gotta make 200k to date or you gotta bring a good business and do and build together and then 0.87

04:40:20.340 Make as much as you can together.

04:40:21.920 I agree with that too, yes. 0.66

04:40:23.260 Why don't average women just want an average guy? 0.99

04:40:28.520 What's wrong with an average guy? 1.00

04:40:30.800 There's average guys that make $200,000.

04:40:34.600 Or $100,000, I'm saying.

04:40:36.580 They're average guys.

04:40:37.360 It's above average income.

04:40:40.960 Yeah, well, you know, the tech world.

04:40:43.540 There's a lot of interesting jobs that are going on right now.

04:40:47.480 People are making money.

04:40:48.700 All right.

04:40:49.780 It depends on where you live and how you want to live.

04:40:53.160 Right? 0.99

04:40:55.780 She, okay. 0.96

04:40:56.800 California is expensive.

04:40:58.060 All right.

04:40:58.320 How tall are you and what's the minimum height you would date?

04:41:04.180 And then list the height of the last three partners.

04:41:08.640 Okay.

04:41:08.940 So I'm 5'6", and I think I said the minimum is 5'10".

04:41:13.000 Ideally, he would be taller.

04:41:14.740 But, yeah, the last guys I've dated were all over 6 feet.

04:41:18.980 Like six, six, one, six.

04:41:22.200 Well, six, six, dunzo.

04:41:24.920 Dunzo?

04:41:25.480 Did you say dunzo?

04:41:27.360 Dunzo?

04:41:28.640 No, I didn't.

04:41:29.440 I just said six, six, stands out in my mind.

04:41:31.960 Oh, stands out.

04:41:32.700 Yeah, yeah.

04:41:33.880 But yeah, the others were like at least six feet.

04:41:36.240 I didn't ask exactly.

04:41:37.020 I don't remember exactly.

04:41:37.820 So six, six, what else?

04:41:40.360 What do you mean?

04:41:42.020 Their heights.

04:41:43.000 Gosh, the last significant one was six, six.

04:41:46.520 Six, three.

04:41:48.980 Well, in France, generally, they're a lot shorter, so it's hard to find, but, yeah.

04:41:53.560 Okay, last guy was 6'6".

04:41:54.980 All right, what about you?

04:41:57.420 I'm 5'6", and I wrote down, if I were to date someone, 5'7", and my husband is 6'1".

04:42:06.760 I'm 5'6 1⁄2", and the last guy I dated was 6'5", however, that doesn't matter, 1.00

04:42:13.900 because all women like tall men and so they are always being kind of chased after so i don't 1.00

04:42:23.240 really look at the height thing is like the hottest thing anymore it's more about you know 0.97

04:42:28.160 am i being taken care of and so i don't care about height anymore i'd rather have a shorter guy

04:42:32.840 that has my back and you know takes care of me then but so what's the minimum male height you

04:42:39.240 would date uh depends on my allowance my monthly allowance from the guy yeah you're i mean right

04:42:47.000 i thought money on one hand money doesn't matter but okay um well the money's negotiable i guess

04:42:56.040 what's your shortest i mean would you date somebody three foot you should ask you should

04:43:00.580 ask how tall i think that would be the okay oh yeah so how tall is would i honestly i would

04:43:07.440 I would date any height really

04:43:10.040 I say I

04:43:11.620 Have a preference

04:43:14.080 For like at least 0.99

04:43:16.500 The average female height 1.00

04:43:18.060 5'4 but I would date a woman 1.00

04:43:20.600 Who's shorter than 5'4 1.00

04:43:21.740 Would you date a 6 foot woman? 1.00

04:43:23.100 I would date a woman who's taller than me 1.00

04:43:24.620 D1 babies 1.00

04:43:26.840 That's impressive 0.86

04:43:28.640 Warrior sons

04:43:30.400 Of course I would date

04:43:31.940 I can tell by your warrior helmets up there

04:43:36.200 Gladiators

04:43:37.200 I mean, I'm, like, six foot, six foot one.

04:43:39.280 Yeah.

04:43:40.860 So you're okay with, like, because some guys don't like that.

04:43:44.320 And they get weird about it.

04:43:46.520 Well, look, I'll be honest.

04:43:47.600 So I think for, this is going to probably piss everyone off.

04:43:53.540 It's okay.

04:43:54.180 For breeding.

04:43:57.480 For breeding.

04:43:58.580 Right. 1.00

04:43:58.980 You want, like, a 6'6 woman. 1.00

04:44:02.160 Yeah, like a big athlete. 1.00

04:44:03.720 But for pleasure, for speed. 0.88

04:44:05.780 You want a spinner. 0.58

04:44:06.400 you want you want a dwarf so i'm in this dilemma on one hand and i'm attracted to both is yeah but 0.68

04:44:16.940 on one hand it's like two sometimes a woman if a woman is too big okay it can make certain

04:44:23.660 activities difficult oh okay i see so activities why are you jumping in on i just want to know 1.00

04:44:30.460 did i offend is this no what are you trying to say i'm big are you trying to say you big

04:44:35.200 Why would I be offended

04:44:37.760 Why would you think I would be offended

04:44:40.540 Just the way you came in like that

04:44:42.180 I just wanted to know what I did

04:44:43.620 Are we cool

04:44:45.260 I don't know 1.00

04:44:46.900 You don't fuck with me like that 1.00

04:44:49.480 Are we cool though 1.00

04:44:50.660 Because there's a difference between fuck with someone like that 1.00

04:44:53.240 And being cool 1.00

04:44:54.520 How about this

04:44:55.980 You're my Caucasian 1.00

04:44:58.660 You're my Caucasian 1.00

04:45:04.880 Are you trying to be funny?

04:45:07.480 Do Caucasian people call each other Caucasian? 0.81

04:45:10.700 She's my Caucasian. 0.76

04:45:12.320 What's up? 0.99

04:45:13.040 What's up, my Caucasian? 1.00

04:45:14.540 Like I dap her up. 1.00

04:45:15.920 My Caucasian. 1.00

04:45:16.780 What's up? 0.59

04:45:17.060 No, y'all don't. 1.00

04:45:17.580 That's stupid. 1.00

04:45:18.840 My Caucasian. 1.00

04:45:20.400 My Caucasian.

04:45:21.580 My Caucasian.

04:45:22.520 My Caucasian.

04:45:23.340 Do Caucasian people have a word?

04:45:26.100 Well, I'm weird. 1.00

04:45:27.060 I say that shit. 1.00

04:45:28.480 But as a culture, y'all don't. 1.00

04:45:30.480 But would you ever, I'm not going to say it, but would you ever call me the N-word?

04:45:34.880 With an A.

04:45:35.860 I'm not going to lie. 1.00

04:45:37.780 Like as a homie thing.

04:45:39.360 I was, growing up, I was the only, we were the only black family in my neighborhood, right?

04:45:43.900 So, there were some kids that used the N word in the wrong way, and I would be that.

04:45:50.340 No, I wouldn't, no, I'm never, I'm not going to say it. 0.87

04:45:52.800 I grew up with my white friends that I went to school with, and I wouldn't call them that, but I would understand why some people do. 0.52

04:46:00.820 because our

04:46:02.960 culture, most people in our

04:46:04.980 culture have embraced the N-word

04:46:07.080 as a term of endearment. 1.00

04:46:09.060 It's like a friend.

04:46:10.300 It's like, hey, homie.

04:46:11.560 So when somebody would say, hey, Brian, 0.90

04:46:14.000 you my nigga, right? 0.81

04:46:16.460 Clip it and ship 1.00

04:46:17.860 that shit. 1.00

04:46:18.860 If they say that. 1.00

04:46:20.460 Clip it and ship it, boys.

04:46:22.080 That's just like saying you my dog, you my homie. 0.99

04:46:24.300 In that same way, you my Caucasian.

04:46:27.400 But y'all don't say that.

04:46:28.920 i'm trying to start it but i personally i do not caucasian please i personally do not call people

04:46:36.420 outside of the black culture that work um okay i don't know where i was going with the oh the

04:46:41.640 the height the height so yeah some guys are like i wouldn't date some guys say they wouldn't date

04:46:46.920 a taller woman like a woman who's taller than them or just a tall woman i don't have a problem

04:46:52.960 with it i i would some guys would be insecure i'll date i'm fine with it because you're tall

04:46:58.780 how tall are you yeah because you're over six well no but i'm not so i'm not just saying i

04:47:02.500 would date a girl who's five ten i'm saying you'll date a girl who's taller than me six five

04:47:07.800 and i'm yeah i'm six one six six six five and then she's gonna put heels on so she's gonna be

04:47:12.440 seven no without heels i'll date a woman who's six three he wants to breathe i need a volleyball 0.75

04:47:18.280 right yeah you need a volleyball star no but i mean i'll i'll date any height i don't really care

04:47:23.040 i would have some concern this is a concern in the back of the head for for men if y'all if

04:47:29.280 you're serious with a short girl you gotta think of the kids think of the kids you don't want a

04:47:36.980 with short man syndrome i i gotta you know so you know whatever any height's fine any height's fine 1.00

04:47:46.600 That's going to piss off every single woman ever. 1.00

04:47:52.000 Because the tall women are going to be like, oh, so you want to fuck the short women? 1.00

04:47:55.380 And the short women will be like, you want to impregnate the tall women and fuck them. 1.00

04:48:00.800 So look, you just want to fuck them all. 1.00

04:48:02.660 So that's it. 1.00

04:48:03.620 It's like Pokemon.

04:48:04.080 Yeah, it's like all dudes.

04:48:06.040 Yeah, you guys are good with everybody, right?

04:48:08.860 Yeah.

04:48:09.320 You ain't throwing nobody out of the bedroom.

04:48:11.520 Not over height.

04:48:13.040 Right, because at horizontal everybody's the same, right? 0.99

04:48:15.200 I'm an equal opportunity fucker. 1.00

04:48:18.460 I'll fuck a dwarf. 1.00

04:48:20.300 I believe you. 1.00

04:48:21.560 No, if any of you know a dwarf, link me up.

04:48:25.800 Get me connected.

04:48:27.660 You know somebody?

04:48:29.020 I went out with somebody. 1.00

04:48:31.000 You dated a male dwarf. 1.00

04:48:32.320 I went on a date. 0.99

04:48:33.220 Who here has dated a male dwarf? 1.00

04:48:35.160 I went on a date. 1.00

04:48:35.920 Who here fucks male dwarves? 1.00

04:48:37.960 I didn't do that. 1.00

04:48:38.380 Sorry, who would date a male dwarf, okay? 1.00

04:48:41.220 I would. 0.89

04:48:42.040 He was so nice.

04:48:43.100 He was really nice.

04:48:43.940 I would. 0.93

04:48:44.520 i once knew a mexican dwarf and that guy was dope his name was paul 0.98

04:48:51.800 that's it that's okay that's the story all right

04:48:56.520 okay uh so wait minimum height uh i think it was hard time right we were here uh how tall

04:49:04.040 are you minimum male height you would have nine yeah i'm five nine yes um i prefer someone a

04:49:10.520 a little bit taller okay yeah only because i've dated younger men and they make jokes and

04:49:18.580 just too much well okay your uh last your husband's how tall were they um over six foot like

04:49:25.060 six one okay uh what about you i'm five six um my man now he's five ten um and then the you have

04:49:35.260 you have a kid with him right no we don't have any kids okay my child's father they were what

04:49:40.440 like five eight um like both about the same height how tell you you're five six okay and um i would

04:49:48.920 date somebody that's the same height as me the reason and i don't have a problem with dating 0.99

04:49:54.180 shorter men the issue is men have short men syndrome i don't want to deal with that shit 0.97

04:49:59.740 if that's a thing yep and so the reason why you would say that you would date a taller woman is 0.99

04:50:05.620 because you are considered a tall yes he's tall short man syndrome yeah he doesn't no

04:50:10.420 because he's in that bracket.

04:50:13.320 Yeah.

04:50:14.060 You'll never understand what a shorter man feels like.

04:50:17.380 Exactly. 0.99

04:50:18.000 It's true.

04:50:18.940 It's a Napoleon thing. 0.97

04:50:20.260 They know that women prefer taller men, 0.91

04:50:22.500 so they have this chip on their shoulder. 0.99

04:50:24.780 So if I date a guy that is 5'4",

04:50:27.340 which I wouldn't have an issue,

04:50:28.760 he probably wouldn't want me to wear heels. 0.97

04:50:30.480 I mean, they also get mistreated. 1.00

04:50:32.260 They do get mistreated.

04:50:33.520 But I have solidarity with my short brothers

04:50:40.260 um you know i what why you have to do that accent what do you there was no my short short brothers

04:50:47.220 english is my second language so sometimes i you be playing no i'm dead i'm serious

04:50:54.560 english is not my first language you know what you be doing i don't

04:50:57.480 you know what's so crazy what's tell me what's in real life we we would probably be great friends 0.99

04:51:04.020 oh we'd be best friends i dated i went to school with assholes like you wait you know huh you did 0.99

04:51:09.420 I was the only black family in the neighborhood 1.00

04:51:12.400 And I would have to beat these kids up 1.00

04:51:14.760 Because they played too much 0.66

04:51:15.740 But I was friends with a lot of the white guys 1.00

04:51:18.620 And they used to be ass 0.97

04:51:19.740 But we found common ground and we were cool

04:51:22.140 Because it's, you know, I don't know

04:51:24.120 I just got a lightbulb

04:51:25.660 You remember that show that was on MTV

04:51:28.480 A long time ago

04:51:29.500 Rob, who's that?

04:51:32.000 Rob and Big

04:51:32.680 We should do that

04:51:34.280 It was a lightbulb that just went off

04:51:37.860 Because we're opposite 1.00

04:51:38.700 I should do streams, IRL streams, where I'm just kicking it with a bunch of black women. 1.00

04:51:45.940 That would be like, you know, just we're walking around and we're just talking. 1.00

04:51:49.360 They can teach you to twerk.

04:51:50.000 Learn to twerk. 0.93

04:51:51.700 And I'm white. 0.99

04:51:54.920 I want to see you twerk. 0.99

04:51:56.160 Can you twerk? 0.99

04:51:56.800 And then there's white men, you know what I mean? 0.52

04:51:58.160 Would you come to St. Louis to meet my friends and family and we stream the experience?

04:52:02.640 He's from Santa Barbara.

04:52:03.620 He is not going to St. Louis.

04:52:06.300 Would you do that?

04:52:07.040 I'm into film production. I would have

04:52:09.460 the production crew, the security.

04:52:11.620 I think we should do that.

04:52:14.360 It would be

04:52:15.380 fun. I'm from the mean streets of Santa

04:52:17.380 Barbara.

04:52:19.000 I don't think St. Louis is ready 1.00

04:52:21.260 for a Caucasian

04:52:23.460 like me. So I'm going to have

04:52:25.280 security for my people to protect

04:52:27.120 your people. Yeah, my St. Louis

04:52:29.180 people to protect them from you because

04:52:30.880 you'd be doing too much. Yeah, because you're

04:52:33.260 from the mean streets of Santa Barbara.

04:52:35.160 They need the protection. Yeah.

04:52:37.040 You know what y'all be on

04:52:39.600 You know what you people be on

04:52:41.620 Yep

04:52:42.740 They better watch out

04:52:45.220 Watch out 1.00

04:52:47.020 White boy over here 1.00

04:52:50.020 Alright 1.00

04:52:50.960 That would actually be really funny

04:52:53.860 Like it would be not sorry I shouldn't say funny

04:52:56.200 It would be fun

04:52:57.280 It would be 1.00

04:52:58.320 Cause black women 0.99

04:53:00.180 I love black women

04:53:02.880 Oh do you 1.00

04:53:03.560 Of course

04:53:04.580 okay you're all you're the they're the most fun fun in what way is this like that scene from

04:53:12.440 goodfellas wait how's it go um am i a comedian you think i'm what do you mean funny yeah you

04:53:21.360 know what i mean yeah what what do you mean funny well what do you mean what do you mean what do

04:53:26.900 you mean funny what do you mean funny like haha like you think i'm a joke okay this is your

04:53:33.240 robert de niro yeah all right that was a serious question no like they're they got uh they got aura

04:53:39.460 they got vibrance they got they got they got uh yeah yeah we just got that that thing they got

04:53:48.540 that thing can't explain it it's just there can't explain it just in us it's just there yeah anyways

04:53:53.800 have you dated a black woman before black women don't want to date me is the problem uh i'm open 0.75

04:54:00.120 to it but also in the mean streets of santa barbara there's not a lot of black women 0.96

04:54:06.340 there's not a lot of black people here but black women don't want to date me why i think black 0.79

04:54:15.120 women prefer to date black guys or maybe mexicans i dated a white guy once how was it how'd that go 0.93

04:54:21.660 though um what was the difference first of all i like i like i don't like the white men that act 0.95

04:54:26.720 that try to act cool and try to act black.

04:54:30.200 I like a white guy. 0.91

04:54:31.640 You want them to know their place.

04:54:33.660 Be yourself. 0.97

04:54:34.360 The white men need to know their place. 0.98

04:54:35.780 Not even a place, just be yourself. 0.96

04:54:37.700 You know, because like I said, I grew up,

04:54:39.800 let me tell you something,

04:54:40.600 the first male attraction I had was to a white boy

04:54:44.360 because I was in a predominantly white school

04:54:47.000 in an all-white neighborhood.

04:54:49.140 And so I dated a white guy. 0.68

04:54:51.580 And after I gave him some, he just went crazy. 0.99

04:54:54.380 and he just started just doing weird shit 0.96

04:54:57.520 and it scared me 0.98

04:54:59.040 and I don't think he could handle it

04:55:01.760 you know what I'm saying

04:55:02.440 he couldn't handle all this 0.63

04:55:04.620 he just started going psycho

04:55:07.740 and it scared me

04:55:09.440 no I just think 1.00

04:55:11.240 the black women don't 1.00

04:55:12.720 they don't 1.00

04:55:13.240 I don't do it for them 1.00

04:55:16.280 I don't do it for the black women 1.00

04:55:18.980 you won't be surprised 1.00

04:55:21.220 at how many black women 1.00

04:55:22.120 i don't know you know i think i think that i think that um just the things that you say 0.74

04:55:31.460 you know your outlook on things am i out of pocket make a black woman feel like that you're racist or

04:55:37.000 or you know you're you you're stereotypical like you stereotype black women but see i'm so not 1.00

04:55:43.280 racist because i have one black friend that's the most racist shit you could ever say and i would 1.00

04:55:49.100 have sex with black women so how could i ever be racist that that doesn't mean you're not racist 1.00

04:55:55.760 you could just want to fuck but like what let me ask you a question what is more racist 1.00

04:56:02.960 a guy who only wants to fuck black women or a guy who does not want to fuck black women 1.00

04:56:07.900 i don't think that either is racist oh but the one black friend shit 1.00

04:56:16.040 when people say that shit 1.00

04:56:18.640 they are the most racist people 1.00

04:56:20.580 because why is that even a thing 1.00

04:56:22.840 I might have two black friends

04:56:24.280 but why is that even something to mention 1.00

04:56:25.900 would it be better if it was zero

04:56:28.900 yeah 0.99

04:56:30.040 you want me to have less black friends 0.67

04:56:33.040 what if I came and I said 0.86

04:56:35.060 you know what I have one white friend

04:56:36.900 I have one white friend though 1.00

04:56:38.260 but black people don't say that

04:56:40.760 only white people that 0.97

04:56:43.060 are kind of racist say that 0.97

04:56:45.040 mean streets of santa barbara there's not a lot of black people out here 0.91

04:56:48.640 so you don't ever go outside of santa barbara huh you don't ever go outside when i was young

04:56:53.040 my i had a half black was he full black he was like light skin but both his parents were a little

04:57:01.580 black both his parents were light skin

04:57:04.460 so he's black then we come in all shades

04:57:11.240 all right like your uh big labia matter uh shade blm i find that interesting why why did you do

04:57:21.020 that you're trying to be funny no total coincidence that's that's that's why i actually

04:57:25.940 started big labia matter first when what year look i've been interested in what year large 1.00

04:57:32.840 pussy. So why is this the emoji? 0.99

04:57:35.640 What do you mean?

04:57:36.940 This. Because Big Labia

04:57:38.880 comes in all shapes and sizes. Why is this the emoji?

04:57:41.140 Why it's not the cat emoji?

04:57:43.120 Because you're trying to play. You know what?

04:57:44.700 Thank you. Can you change it to the cat emoji for me?

04:57:46.420 I'm going to check my privilege. 0.99

04:57:48.900 I'm going to change that shit. 0.99

04:57:51.220 Because you're right. 1.00

04:57:52.900 That's shady. That's shady as hell.

04:57:54.820 And then you hashtag BLM. 0.61

04:57:57.460 Big Labia Matter.

04:57:58.480 You know where that hashtag came from. 0.96

04:58:01.280 I started BLM.

04:58:02.520 what year look what year if you could see you play too much if you could see my i don't really 0.96

04:58:11.940 watch much porn anymore thank god but i'm looking up big labia but you know what i mean i was 0.98

04:58:20.880 searching that shit you know yeah that was like your first before porn hub really porn hub was 0.98

04:58:28.280 really yeah you've always just had a it just i would find it somehow and i just i'm i think it 0.99

04:58:35.940 started in 2009 wow which predates you didn't start that in 2009 show me proof that you were

04:58:43.820 hashtagging blm and i was big labia matter trust me i was big you were doing like this big labia

04:58:49.120 i was doing like this in 2009 you play too much brian if you could see my browser history you 1.00

04:58:54.420 would know i was looking up big pussy when fucking obama was still president does it feel 0.99

04:59:03.140 different is that why it feels different looks different yeah okay i'm just curious i believe 1.00

04:59:09.300 you but i know you being shady hashtag here pull that shit up tiffany pull that you was doing like 0.89

04:59:14.460 this let's let me this like you know what that is what you think this is it's like how does that 0.98

04:59:23.380 relate to alabia how does it why is it not a sandwich on there how does it relate to

04:59:28.260 you could even use the peach bologna sandwich but you are playing and look at that look at his shirt

04:59:33.880 you play too much what's wrong with the shirt it's nothing wrong with the shirt you know what 1.00

04:59:40.000 you're doing you're an asshole you are such an asshole and that's why we could really be friends 1.00

04:59:46.760 yes you are an asshole wait what's wrong with this you know you know the black lives matter 1.00

04:59:50.560 shit. That's, you know, the plan. They would do Black Lives Matter. And then that. You 1.00

04:59:57.820 got a lady a shirt? Show me something before 2014, before the Mike Brown situation. Who's 1.00

05:00:03.280 Mike Brown? Because that's, y'all know who Mike Brown is? In St. Louis, a police officer

05:00:08.020 shot and killed an unarmed black kid that had his hands up and he got off. And the people

05:00:15.760 of st louis my a lot of my family included we were protesting and we were getting tear gas we

05:00:21.480 were in all type of stuff oh wow they were the police were killing other people getting away

05:00:26.120 with it it's a lot behind it so the black lives matter movement was created in st louis yes oh

05:00:32.740 from that situation and it became a worldwide thing to stand in solidarity with black people

05:00:38.380 who are mistreated due to their color and the police brutality now that movement was hijacked

05:00:44.640 I thought it was by George, right?

05:00:47.160 No, George Floyd.

05:00:48.060 That came out.

05:00:48.920 That's totally different.

05:00:49.500 Oh, that's after.

05:00:50.500 Okay. 0.94

05:00:51.000 So the black, Mike Brown happened in 2014. 0.84

05:00:53.760 Okay.

05:00:54.420 But yeah, that movement was totally like hijacked. 0.99

05:00:56.940 People started taking advantage, stealing money, all type of crazy shit.

05:00:59.640 So the movement ain't really what it used to be. 0.79

05:01:01.620 Yeah.

05:01:01.940 But he's being funny by hashtagging BLM and putting the fist up because that's where it came from.

05:01:07.240 And then also the Black Lives Matter was, it was printed repeatedly, like on merch and, you know,

05:01:13.860 statuses and stuff like that so he's trying to be funny okay it's not funny i see what he did there 0.99

05:01:19.300 but the big the big labia shit is funny but he's trying to he trying to like play with the black 0.98

05:01:25.260 lives matter movement well hopefully comes down with the labiana shirt we're about to see he's 0.98

05:01:32.480 got merch oh he does does he yes i i believe but i know i know he didn't start that before that i

05:01:39.480 know what he's doing. He's an asshole. He's just trolling. I know. I need another Red Bull 1.00

05:01:55.940 and some water. Right now is a good time for you to plug in if you have your website or

05:02:04.080 whatever we can do that probably why not right okay my instagram is underscore i'm underscore

05:02:13.220 prettier two r's another underscore follow box then follow wicked films here he comes 0.97

05:02:18.800 with his big labia matter big labia matter with no labia 0.97

05:02:24.940 you don't support my cause 0.97

05:02:35.860 I support 1.00

05:02:37.400 women of all different labia sizes 0.97

05:02:41.720 but here's the thing 1.00

05:02:43.900 all labia can't matter until big labia

05:02:46.260 matter 0.99

05:02:46.600 what if you've met

05:02:50.080 somebody

05:02:50.480 if you're going to play with

05:02:53.000 Black Lives Matter

05:02:55.140 Well, the movement is totally hijacked. 1.00

05:02:57.320 I don't care.

05:02:57.880 But you're trying to play.

05:02:59.220 Yeah, they bought a mansion. 1.00

05:03:01.860 The BLM people bought a mansion. 0.99

05:03:04.380 But the original cause, you know, like that's a real thing. 0.99

05:03:08.740 You know what I'm saying?

05:03:09.280 I know.

05:03:10.420 But so for you to do the fist, that's shady.

05:03:14.160 Do you forgive me?

05:03:15.660 No, because when you change it, I'll forgive you.

05:03:19.360 All right.

05:03:20.540 What if you fell in love with someone that didn't have them?

05:03:22.680 We'll touch.

05:03:23.380 We'll circle back.

05:03:24.960 We'll circle back.

05:03:26.120 We'll see how things go.

05:03:28.200 Okay, let's finish this up.

05:03:29.940 How tall are you minimum male height? 0.56

05:03:33.040 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

05:03:34.260 Okay, 5'7 1⁄2".

05:03:36.520 The shortest I'm going is 5'5".

05:03:38.920 No, don't go that way.

05:03:40.160 Don't go that way.

05:03:41.340 Tiffany, give her instructions, please.

05:03:43.880 And the tallest guy I've dated, 6'6".

05:03:47.360 My ex-husband was 6'2".

05:03:49.240 My husband now is 5'10".

05:03:52.660 Okay.

05:03:53.380 All right.

05:03:54.100 Does anyone here support Lindsay Clancy?

05:03:56.540 Who is that?

05:03:57.460 The girl who killed her three kids. 0.97

05:03:59.280 Alyssa, you say mixed feelings?

05:04:01.360 I've heard of her, but I don't know the whole story.

05:04:02.960 Okay, Alyssa, really quick.

05:04:04.120 You say mixed feelings on Lindsay Clancy.

05:04:06.880 Why is that?

05:04:07.680 No, no, no.

05:04:08.200 I do not support her for killing her children.

05:04:12.300 Definitely not.

05:04:13.040 But there's a lot.

05:04:15.280 The issues that I have are all of the medication that she was taking that led to bad things happening.

05:04:22.760 you know so what was she taken uh just a plethora of psychotic medication so you know the doctors

05:04:31.420 take this take this take this okay and unfortunately the psychiatrist yeah but am i do i support her

05:04:36.880 uh she killed her children definitely not no uh would you find her guilty if you were on the jury

05:04:43.720 trial i would okay nothing nothing to really discuss there all right we'll finish up on the

05:04:49.140 questionnaire here nothing nothing really much for uh for alex um we have pepper uh i'll come

05:04:58.660 back to you on that i want to go to heather uh men should pay on first dates men should provide

05:05:03.220 protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die protecting you take the bullet

05:05:08.340 you will keep your last name or hyphenate marriage

05:05:12.340 um that's i mean that's negotiable too what if it's a bad last name 0.96

05:05:20.360 fuck well you got a decent last i know and it's like chadwell yeah heather chadwell right it's

05:05:28.520 chad but the well with well i know and wells are cool yeah or being well is good yeah all is well 0.99

05:05:37.700 Yeah, I think...

05:05:38.300 Well with the Chad.

05:05:39.480 Yeah.

05:05:42.380 Okay, so Heather. 1.00

05:05:44.100 Yes.

05:05:44.940 So you would be willing to take the husband's last name, though?

05:05:47.480 Yes, because when I was engaged, I was going to take my fiancé's last name.

05:05:50.860 All right.

05:05:51.540 Correct.

05:05:53.020 Okay, no one else circled on that.

05:05:54.880 We have...

05:05:56.000 Let's do...

05:05:58.160 Okay.

05:06:03.240 Wait, so hold on.

05:06:04.320 Trees?

05:06:09.360 Prettier.

05:06:10.260 People of color can't be racist towards white people.

05:06:12.620 You didn't circle that.

05:06:13.700 I didn't. 0.80

05:06:14.400 So, okay, black people can be racist towards white people? 0.99

05:06:16.520 Hell yeah. 1.00

05:06:17.340 Oh, okay.

05:06:17.860 All right.

05:06:18.200 There you go.

05:06:21.360 Or other races or what have you. 0.84

05:06:24.660 By definition, yeah. 0.94

05:06:26.640 Okay.

05:06:27.200 All right.

05:06:28.520 Because sometimes we have people come on the show, whether they're white or black or Latino,

05:06:32.600 know whatever they say people of color can't be racist yeah they say that and i but you disagree

05:06:38.860 i can see where they're going but at the end of the day by definition if you discriminate against

05:06:43.960 people because of their ethnic ethnic background their color their skin then you're you're a racist

05:06:50.860 look at that i agree with you well put uh okay we have

05:06:57.700 Pepper, let's just go to you. 1.00

05:07:01.900 Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA. 1.00

05:07:04.440 Why is that? 1.00

05:07:07.200 Because in a divorce, for example,

05:07:09.840 men don't get equal custody for children.

05:07:14.800 They have to pay alimony. 0.96

05:07:16.820 They have to give up their house. 1.00

05:07:19.680 So women don't have the same rights. 0.95

05:07:21.940 Men have less rights. 1.00

05:07:23.520 That's why. 1.00

05:07:24.200 Oh, okay.

05:07:24.960 But I see what you're saying there.

05:07:27.100 but i guess the question is more so framed from uh men having rights uh that women don't do you

05:07:35.060 no oh okay no well there's nothing i agree with you there's really nothing to argue about on that

05:07:40.920 um let's see if anyone else pinged on that uh alissa you say men are more or at least agree

05:07:48.480 that men are more privileged in society than women why is that i think in the in the business world

05:07:54.160 things like that i do business yeah in corporate um culture i do

05:08:00.080 okay i'm just saying because i've experienced it so how so um i worked for a corporation uh for

05:08:09.040 10 years and um yeah it was really it was very difficult to move around because

05:08:15.780 because i was a woman yeah and i have lots of friends that experienced the same thing

05:08:22.540 in a predominantly male field i worked for a sports company so yeah now but uh my question

05:08:31.840 to you then is so i understand that maybe you don't get a promotion or maybe you don't get

05:08:38.320 something or what what have you where's the evidence though that it's because you're a woman

05:08:43.920 um well i think it's sometimes i could tell you i'd sat in uh meetings for hours at a time

05:08:50.080 um and the women are just not hurt they're not taking it seriously in in certain you know

05:08:56.400 especially in the sports world um that i was in and i and you know and i have friends that are in

05:09:02.880 the car automobile business also it's the same thing i mean it's a man's it's unfortunate but

05:09:08.260 it happens it's real um okay uh

05:09:14.980 i lived i lived it well look i'm certain i'm sure there's exam there's examples of it happening but

05:09:26.340 um i mean i would um i mean i think i think that things are changing now uh because women are you

05:09:36.400 know there's a lot of ceos and cfos that are women so i think it's it is changing but i'm talking

05:09:43.460 about for myself like 20 years ago when i was working okay in that world that's all uh pepper

05:09:50.820 you say that people of color can't be racist towards white people can be oh maybe you just

05:09:57.460 oh maybe maybe can women be sexist towards men okay then there's maybe just an accidental uh circle 0.99

05:10:05.140 why does that make me an asshole that's what it was she accidentally circled it 0.93

05:10:14.460 i agree just they can be no but the statement is people of color can't be racist no it's it's not 0.95

05:10:24.040 a big deal just you just accidentally serve it i'm not upset uh let's see um

05:10:32.980 treese women are oppressed in the usa why is that or how's that yes so just like she said um 0.92

05:10:48.340 women we could i could get hired at the same job as you you're probably going to get paid

05:10:55.200 more than me i might be more experienced than you um men look at women a certain way they treat

05:11:01.860 women a certain way um you're like it's just it's just like there there are more i would say like

05:11:08.480 how do i say this

05:11:10.620 it's like more double standards toward women than there are with men like the body count um you know 0.94

05:11:20.900 like shit like that like and so like i don't know it's just like men men treat women differently 0.96

05:11:25.700 like you could say that men and women do have equal rights because there's nothing that a man 0.99

05:11:29.640 can do that a woman can't do but women are treated differently in certain spaces in the

05:11:35.220 workspace you know like it's just we we are oppressed we're paid less we're we're looked at

05:11:39.940 as I don't even think men some men don't even like women like it just you know I don't know

05:11:45.760 like it's getting like that yeah like it's just I don't know like we we have it harder you know

05:11:51.940 like I feel like y'all got it easy y'all got it easy men are oppressed it's like the hands-made

05:11:58.400 tale but for men it's completely backwards you guys just want to use us for our sperm you want 1.00

05:12:04.240 to like put us in cages and then jerk us off get our sperm fucking impregnate yourselves please 1.00

05:12:11.340 the wage gap has been debunked the wage gap debunked um i've had women grab my ass that's 1.00

05:12:19.760 right women just you know when i was back in my college days you know when you know i was plump 1.00

05:12:26.360 in a different way women would just take a little grab like i so many times women just grab my ass 1.00

05:12:33.060 and how did that make you feel what so you got a big butt or something 1.00

05:12:36.460 they still they still grabbed it though you know like a flat traumatized what i don't know but 0.90

05:12:41.820 so why no i got it i got a badonka dong

05:12:45.640 but what's that what's a badonka dong i don't know why you think i know what a badonka dong

05:12:50.680 i don't think you know what it is i think all the white women here know what it is but

05:12:54.540 You don't. 0.88

05:12:59.980 Yeah, we got to do that series.

05:13:02.000 We're going to call it

05:13:04.020 Brian

05:13:04.780 Brian and Treese.

05:13:11.420 Treese.

05:13:12.460 Brian, Treese, and BBL.

05:13:15.800 Alright, let's do it. 1.00

05:13:18.080 Let's fucking do it. 1.00

05:13:20.000 Okay. 1.00

05:13:21.940 You also

05:13:23.160 right or rather you agree um well this relates men are more privileged in society than than women

05:13:32.000 especially white men

05:13:33.440 am i lying we have it rough okay how we have it rough first off the amount of privilege

05:13:45.120 black men have you you're about to laugh even saying that i don't know what you're talking

05:13:51.100 about i get me and her get sunburned so easily and i think the sun is racist because why when 1.00

05:14:01.920 i go out into the sun i can't go out for five minutes my shit's gonna be fucking red and 0.99

05:14:07.800 peeling and shit y'all can be out in the sun the sun's racist i had to cover up my son i was 0.99

05:14:16.380 outside riding bikes by the beach and i and my forehead is black now wasn't it black it wasn't 0.99

05:14:23.340 it wasn't like burnt it was burnt and i tried i had to try to cover it up but you burn black 0.95

05:14:29.160 people can still get burned but it takes longer yeah and i think that's fucked up but that we 0.96

05:14:37.020 can't help that i know no it's not your your fault but i feel like the universe is telling 0.81

05:14:43.280 us something yeah that we are the chosen of the earth that's right wakanda superior genes

05:14:51.520 oh whoa hey whoa let's not get we're gonna go in today whoa careful with that one okay

05:14:59.260 careful with that one i'm just saying it's unfair look i get i get sunburned five minutes 0.99

05:15:04.780 middle of summer i'm out there at noon you should use i'm fucked it's just very unfair 0.98

05:15:11.900 you should use sunscreen no so white people need to that's an expense that white people 0.99

05:15:21.440 you know how women complain about the pink tax like oh our products are more expensive we got 1.00

05:15:27.940 to buy more shit i think that there's a white tax we got to buy sunscreen and that's fucked up 1.00

05:15:34.700 And mayonnaise. 1.00

05:15:36.820 I love mayonnaise.

05:15:37.700 I like mayonnaise.

05:15:38.680 I hate mayonnaise.

05:15:40.160 I love everything.

05:15:41.440 You hate mayonnaise?

05:15:42.640 I do not like mayonnaise.

05:15:43.480 Do you?

05:15:43.900 I hate mayonnaise.

05:15:44.680 What's your least favorite?

05:15:45.660 I don't know where the mayonnaise thing came from.

05:15:47.420 Let's just move on.

05:15:47.820 Do you hate like ranch and like all?

05:15:49.980 No, ranch is good.

05:15:51.020 Ranch is good?

05:15:51.620 With pizza.

05:15:52.940 Oh, yeah.

05:15:53.540 And fries?

05:15:55.060 You don't like mayonnaise?

05:15:57.040 I do not like mayonnaise.

05:15:58.280 You know what? 1.00

05:15:58.780 You might be black. 1.00

05:16:00.120 Are we going to? 0.99

05:16:00.780 Now that I said I don't like mayonnaise, we're going to kick it?

05:16:03.200 we can kick it because of the mayonnaise thing

05:16:05.120 because of the mayonnaise thing

05:16:06.580 you're bonding over mayonnaise

05:16:08.080 we have done more

05:16:11.160 for race relations

05:16:13.020 on this podcast

05:16:14.100 than I can really think

05:16:16.800 and you know

05:16:17.800 I'm just saying I think we've

05:16:20.980 made a lot of progress here

05:16:22.160 we are going to go back to our respective 0.99

05:16:24.800 tribes we're going to go back

05:16:26.940 and be like we made progress today

05:16:28.680 over mayonnaise we made progress

05:16:30.720 we are healing

05:16:32.260 you're healing

05:16:33.380 I hate mayonnaise though

05:16:35.420 I don't like it

05:16:38.060 okay anyways

05:16:38.700 don't like it

05:16:41.200 coleslaw 1.00

05:16:42.920 do black people like coleslaw 0.98

05:16:45.520 I love coleslaw

05:16:46.680 is coleslaw a white thing

05:16:49.120 I think that's an anybody thing 1.00

05:16:51.720 macaroni and salad is white people shit 1.00

05:16:54.660 oh it is 1.00

05:16:55.400 when y'all put raisins in potato salad 1.00

05:16:58.840 and shit 0.99

05:16:59.260 I don't know 1.00

05:17:01.960 who gets that yeah that's like that i've never seen that yeah it's white people's shit green 1.00

05:17:07.060 bean casserole is yeah is it we don't make you know there's not one black house that makes 0.99

05:17:12.380 stream bean casserole but every time i've gone over my friends my white friend's house for

05:17:17.240 like thanksgiving or something there is green bean casserole with with crispy onions on top

05:17:22.460 and then they put raisins in the potato salad i ain't never seen me neither i've heard the

05:17:30.200 She over there, quiet. 1.00

05:17:32.100 Yeah, I put raisins in, yeah, I put that salad.

05:17:34.820 I hope not. 0.98

05:17:36.060 You tired her out.

05:17:38.560 You did talk wrong.

05:17:39.740 Okay, I think we got two more for Treece.

05:17:44.360 Did I say it right?

05:17:45.180 Yeah.

05:17:45.680 Okay. 0.86

05:17:47.980 Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.

05:17:54.780 Why would it be wrong?

05:17:57.220 If that was the only reason, like if she's not having sex with you, you need to figure 1.00

05:18:02.460 out why she's not having sex with you because if a woman is withholding sex, there's a reason. 0.99

05:18:08.020 There is. 0.86

05:18:08.580 So you have to get down to the bottom of it.

05:18:10.980 Now, if... 1.00

05:18:11.980 Could the reason be she's being a bitch? 1.00

05:18:16.760 Mm-mm. 1.00

05:18:18.220 Is that ever the reason?

05:18:19.560 Yeah, PMS, because we do have hormonal things, but that's not the main. 1.00

05:18:22.860 But why is she being a bitch? 1.00

05:18:24.220 It's a domino effect. 1.00

05:18:25.520 If it's a hormonal thing, then she's probably just withholding sex during, you know, that time of the month. 0.65

05:18:29.840 That time of the month, right.

05:18:31.220 But, I mean, I'm doing it on that time of the month.

05:18:33.300 Hey.

05:18:33.800 But.

05:18:35.160 What's up, Mr. Northumberland?

05:18:37.300 Thank you, man.

05:18:37.740 Thank you for the subject.

05:18:40.340 That's.

05:18:40.960 Hey, Northumberland.

05:18:42.640 Do you.

05:18:44.260 It's a bit too funny.

05:18:45.180 Do you.

05:18:45.460 Are you okay with this?

05:18:46.880 Are you okay with this? 0.97

05:18:49.100 That's a black man right there. 0.97

05:18:50.700 Mm-hmm. 0.87

05:18:51.500 He probably thinks he's white, though. 0.99

05:18:52.780 By the way, that's an FAB. 0.99

05:18:53.800 He probably wants to be white. 0.98

05:18:55.100 Do you know what an FAB is? 0.97

05:18:56.300 No, what's that? 1.00

05:18:56.920 A fat ass bitch? 1.00

05:18:57.420 Or sorry, wait. 1.00

05:18:58.540 No, FBA, my God.

05:19:00.420 FBA. 1.00

05:19:00.820 Fat black ass? 1.00

05:19:01.580 No. 1.00

05:19:03.160 What's that?

05:19:04.300 Get your mind out of the gutter.

05:19:05.580 What is it? 1.00

05:19:07.560 Foundational black American.

05:19:09.500 What does that mean?

05:19:10.840 You.

05:19:11.560 I guess it means like you were here from the beginning.

05:19:16.000 You're peoples.

05:19:17.940 What peoples? 0.88

05:19:19.020 You're peoples.

05:19:19.940 Which, what people?

05:19:20.940 What you mean, you people?

05:19:21.840 What you mean, you people?

05:19:23.460 Exactly.

05:19:23.840 like because there's black americans but they weren't part of slavery

05:19:32.960 so i i'm confused me too i'm should we just move it i've never heard of fba

05:19:41.840 foundational black american i think that's like like they have their

05:19:45.680 no they come from slavery you're saying that they're related to somebody in slavery

05:19:49.540 families like that uh i don't know where i was going with that i don't know sometimes i just

05:19:57.260 say something okay but so uh wrong for man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him

05:20:03.180 down for sex what if uh wrong what if a man is it wrong for a girlfriend to dump a man

05:20:12.320 if he regularly turns her down for sex no in the same way that you need to figure out why 0.92

05:20:17.980 a man don't want to have sex she's consistent yeah okay it's not a gender thing to me it's an

05:20:23.060 individual thing so if my if if if i am dating someone and i'm not having sex with them it's

05:20:29.620 because i'm mad about something either there's lack of inconsistency there's lack of romance

05:20:34.480 you're not doing it right you're not listening to me it's something so if you don't figure out

05:20:39.340 what it is i'm not i'm not going to be horny fair enough uh let's see one or two more here

05:20:44.800 from the questionnaire past should not matter um to which heather yes you agree with that i do

05:20:53.640 uh you also agree with that and uh yeah so why is that why should past not matter for you too

05:21:02.200 um i think we all go through different phases in life and um you know you could have a certain

05:21:11.000 stage where say in your 20s but then as you get older then it's the complete opposite so

05:21:18.340 what are we oh no you're talking to this guy oh yeah he says i'm invited to the were you saying

05:21:26.540 no i'm not invited you know what you know what i don't think i've ever had black food

05:21:34.860 that sounds bad i've never been given food like 0.97

05:21:43.600 i want to try it i'm a great cook i wanted to like i want to go to a barbecue or some shit 0.65

05:21:50.800 i can do that for you i swear to god i'm a i'm an amazing cook people people request for me to 0.66

05:21:57.460 make pans oh wow i could cook i could cook a whole thanksgiving i could cook dang i think

05:22:02.860 it's a santa barbara thing i know how to barbecue because i have a lot of mexican food i'll tell i

05:22:07.220 i eat a lot of mexican i know how to barbecue i will do charcoal barbecue too at the same time

05:22:11.960 and make a whole spread damn i got you down i promise okay we'll do it okay that should be i 0.97

05:22:21.120 should do a series where i go and kick it with black people and i i go there there the the 0.98

05:22:29.520 barbecue what cookouts what is that good crunch on go like crunch it's a cookout i'm gonna go

05:22:34.700 yeah i'm gonna just do it get some soul food i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna do it you should i would i

05:22:42.920 would take you to do all these things we're doing it okay we're doing it all right okay can i wear

05:22:48.880 a do-rag if you want to you're gonna get talked about talked about yeah is it okay for me to

05:22:57.080 Why would you want to wear a do-rag?

05:22:57.740 I want to fit in. 0.98

05:22:58.440 Why do you play someone?

05:22:59.400 I want to fit in. 1.00

05:23:00.240 So all black people wear a do-rag? 1.00

05:23:01.560 I want... 1.00

05:23:02.280 I want... 1.00

05:23:04.020 No, not all black people wear a do-rag. 1.00

05:23:04.880 Because that's a part of the culture, right?

05:23:06.040 I just want to fit in.

05:23:07.780 So you... 0.95

05:23:08.340 My man don't wear a do-rag... 0.99

05:23:11.080 Because... 1.00

05:23:11.560 When he's black. 0.99

05:23:13.260 You want to feel closer. 0.96

05:23:15.120 Yes.

05:23:16.700 I want...

05:23:17.740 I want them to feel comfortable. 1.00

05:23:21.760 So if you walk in with a do-rag... 1.00

05:23:23.900 I feel like they'll be more comfortable. 1.00

05:23:26.240 like can i ask you a question yeah do you feel because it's all white people here

05:23:34.520 well she's russian i don't know that's still white tiffany is asian i'm not white okay well 0.97

05:23:42.820 let's not do that debate uh tiffany back there is a korean woman she's asian but she's basically 0.72

05:23:50.620 white you know in her own way special way so but i mean you know 0.99

05:23:59.180 how do you does it feel weird being surrounded in a room with white people i was very nervous

05:24:08.860 were you really at first what did you think was gonna happen um i didn't i don't know what to

05:24:15.580 expect around y'all I'm just playing I'm just playing but no because because I feel like you

05:24:20.600 are I don't know I felt like you were a bit of a racist and then when you came in like the angry 0.77

05:24:27.620 white man uh-huh like the angry white man and you didn't speak to nobody and you complained about 0.92

05:24:34.560 I didn't speak to you because of because I'm black yeah that's why you know I'm saying I didn't I 0.74

05:24:39.120 didn't like that but I didn't speak to any of them because they're women so now you have to decide 1.00

05:24:43.780 Now you have to pick 1.00

05:24:45.380 Which one's worse 0.98

05:24:47.700 I got bitched off for the hand sanitizer

05:24:50.420 And I washed my hands

05:24:51.460 I'm just kidding

05:24:52.900 I'm just introverted

05:24:59.220 Past shouldn't matter

05:25:02.500 That's what we were on

05:25:04.000 It's true

05:25:05.520 It's true

05:25:07.520 The mean streets of Santa Barbara

05:25:10.580 I ran these streets

05:25:12.420 What should we do on these streets?

05:25:13.780 yeah it's my first time here it's cool you know you literally just run that's it it's cute

05:25:20.120 look you know i've always wanted to come here you want to you want to make sure that people know

05:25:27.900 what block it is up in here yeah yeah because a lot of people look at me like i didn't belong here

05:25:37.680 and I was very scared. Really?

05:25:39.960 I thought they were, yeah. Yeah, but I told

05:25:41.660 my peoples

05:25:42.960 that you were cool. I let

05:25:45.760 them know ahead of time that you got the clearance

05:25:47.720 to come through. So when I go back to ride bikes

05:25:49.680 by the beach tomorrow, everybody's going to be cool

05:25:51.600 now because they know we know each other.

05:25:53.740 They know. Okay. I told my people.

05:25:56.820 Okay. 1.00

05:25:57.620 Look for the black woman with the BBL. 1.00

05:26:01.760 Don't hassle her. Okay. 1.00

05:26:03.400 Alright. Passion and Matter.

05:26:05.320 That was you. What's her? Passion and Matter.

05:26:07.360 how about this you know what passion matter um to the two women who said passion matter 0.92

05:26:12.120 would you date a man who used to have sex with men 0.59

05:26:16.900 i feel like most do these days most do i feel like a lot of guys are dl especially the ones 0.95

05:26:27.120 that are heavy into porn because eventually it's just not enough and not enough and not enough and

05:26:32.760 eventually just and yeah and i i made the mistake i thought this is before i started researching

05:26:39.940 porn because uh my last boyfriend liked it so i bought him a tv thinking oh he'll just stay home

05:26:45.460 and just whatever but then no because then eventually you got to touch it and then you

05:26:48.980 gotta and then then it's you know um with a woman it's not um like the same rush that dopamine rush

05:26:57.740 because it's just so much more

05:27:00.160 on these videos.

05:27:02.400 Yeah, because it's like actors.

05:27:04.680 No, I'm talking about regular

05:27:05.960 porn, but 0.74

05:27:08.000 if you watch too much

05:27:10.220 of it consistently, then it's

05:27:12.160 just not going to be enough, and eventually 0.96

05:27:14.240 you're going to be backing your ass up to a 0.99

05:27:15.880 tennis racket. 1.00

05:27:17.880 You want to know what's so crazy about porn? 0.99

05:27:19.840 I watched male-on-male porn 0.98

05:27:23.500 that I dated. 0.97

05:27:25.020 It turned me off. 1.00

05:27:26.060 What the fuck? 1.00

05:27:27.740 I can't watch actors 1.00

05:27:29.980 I know a couple of foreign girls 1.00

05:27:32.240 and I don't know how 1.00

05:27:33.580 it even came on my screen

05:27:36.540 it was on Facebook

05:27:38.320 you know how they put the link in the comments

05:27:40.540 I clicked on it and I was like

05:27:42.500 I don't know it kind of turned me on a little bit

05:27:44.920 that was crazy

05:27:47.500 but I wouldn't mind being a beard

05:27:51.040 a beard for somebody

05:27:52.520 okay

05:27:53.360 would you date a guy 0.99

05:27:56.500 who had sex with men

05:27:57.580 In the past

05:27:59.400 Like is it your preference

05:28:02.160 It's weird though

05:28:04.460 Because I've always

05:28:06.180 Had somewhat of an attraction 0.80

05:28:08.400 To like metro sexual guys 0.85

05:28:10.380 That I thought were straight 0.99

05:28:12.640 And then they were gay 1.00

05:28:13.300 Like Ricky Martin, George Michael 0.99

05:28:15.040 Ricky Martin?

05:28:16.240 Yeah right

05:28:16.980 I didn't know that

05:28:19.440 Is Brett Michaels

05:28:21.880 He's so straight

05:28:23.860 Super straight

05:28:24.500 There's no way

05:28:27.180 and you were on the show with brett michaels rock of love yes seasons one through three one two and 0.99

05:28:32.300 three that's right let's go yeah and you saw his penis once i did one one time or more than once 0.99

05:28:39.580 how many times remember i drank a lot of balls of great goose did you see his penis well i mean 0.99

05:28:45.300 he wears tight jeans for 20 years and there's like a print now you know it's like did he ever 0.98

05:28:50.960 bring you to a con do they yes he hired me he hired me to host some of the shows right after

05:28:56.240 Is he still doing shows?

05:28:58.340 Oh, yeah.

05:28:59.160 Well, I think he was ill for a little bit, so he had to take a break.

05:29:02.640 But no, that's his life.

05:29:04.700 He's a road dog, and that's what gives him joy, I think.

05:29:07.640 Were you ever romantically involved with any other famous musicians from the era?

05:29:15.040 No, but I did date Clark Gable's grandson, Clark Gable III, who was the hottest thing on the planet. 0.99

05:29:24.640 Who the fuck is that guy? 0.98

05:29:25.560 yeah so god rest his soul but man he was fucking hot he's no longer with no he died at the age of 1.00

05:29:33.360 30 sadly but he looked just like his grandfather but with a tatted tatted up i mean he was he 0.96

05:29:40.160 wait whoa cheaters host sorry i just had a thought when you said you dated a guy who

05:29:45.820 is now dead i know to rock stars but if any of the women i've ever had sex with are dead now

05:29:55.560 you ever think that no no because it's just reality for me just me at a certain age yeah

05:30:03.760 but i'm i'm 37 i'm getting up there you know but i do sometimes ponder 0.56

05:30:10.920 i wonder something like i don't know some of these women what they're up to

05:30:16.160 yeah well i mean nobody lives forever do they have kids what are they up to you know you might 0.93

05:30:23.560 you might have some kids out there some girl i dated you know some girl i dated 20 years ago

05:30:29.500 10 years ago whatever 15 years ago where what's she up to you know i think about these things

05:30:36.060 yeah is she you know she alive i like to think highly of my previous partners but you never know

05:30:46.700 yeah you know i bet some girl 15 years ago was like well you know now she's like i would have 0.94

05:30:54.040 never thought i would have fucked that podcast guy you should bring you should bring them on 0.66

05:30:58.760 the show and ask them what they remember about you i don't think i would ever i don't know if i 0.95

05:31:03.880 bring a girl who i dated on the show i'm private i'm pretty private anyways uh

05:31:13.840 Okay, going around the table, what's your body count, starting with you?

05:31:25.360 I'm going to be honest, Brian.

05:31:27.360 Be honest.

05:31:28.480 Be very honest.

05:31:29.780 I racked up more bodies after I got married than I had before I got married with my first husband,

05:31:34.580 so it's pretty high.

05:31:35.940 so overall yeah

05:31:39.920 I would say between like 45 or 50 45 to 50 yeah and question what was it prior to the first marriage

05:31:52.160 oh only like seven or eight okay so wait seven or eight then you were married and you were faithful

05:32:00.720 during the marriage yes and then you guys divorced and then in the no no no no he wanted to do what 0.69

05:32:10.820 he wanted to do so i married a d a d gen we lived like d gents and then oh you guys had a like

05:32:19.800 poly uh no it was not poly it was he wanted to do what he wanted to do so he slept with all of

05:32:27.100 my friends and i dated like three guys while we were married but then there was like an open

05:32:37.920 relationship sort of okay it became that because he came to me and said i want you to make friends

05:32:44.820 And after that incident occurred, I got four bodies in between the two husbands. 1.00

05:32:58.160 Your husband wanted other men to fuck you? 1.00

05:33:00.540 Yeah, he was a cuck to you. 1.00

05:33:02.900 Cuck? 0.99

05:33:03.880 When you say cuck.

05:33:05.100 Yeah, you know exactly what I mean.

05:33:06.720 I'm using it like, yes, why?

05:33:08.740 In the corner, watching.

05:33:11.900 Did not care.

05:33:13.020 When I say he did not care, he did not care.

05:33:15.320 I didn't know that he didn't care.

05:33:16.940 It's because it's a fetish. 0.98

05:33:19.000 Wait, who here has dated a cuck? 0.96

05:33:23.040 What's the exact definition?

05:33:24.600 Well, okay.

05:33:25.380 A guy you've dated, I probably had sex with, but maybe not. 1.00

05:33:31.180 And then he wants to watch you fuck another man. 1.00

05:33:34.720 Never in a million years. 1.00

05:33:36.180 No cucks in Russia.

05:33:37.320 No. 0.98

05:33:37.900 Russian men are pretty masculine, right? 0.94

05:33:40.240 No? 0.86

05:33:40.780 No.

05:33:41.740 I have dated a few, yeah. 0.99

05:33:43.380 You've dated some cucks.

05:33:44.120 I'm sorry, I have dated a few.

05:33:45.980 I haven't.

05:33:46.540 Did you partake?

05:33:47.540 No, I did not.

05:33:48.460 I did not.

05:33:48.980 Have you dated a cuck?

05:33:50.260 Mm-mm.

05:33:50.780 Have you let a man watch while? 0.51

05:33:53.420 No. 0.99

05:33:54.260 But you have.

05:33:55.080 Yeah.

05:33:56.240 Was his thing small?

05:33:57.500 No.

05:33:57.780 That was his problem.

05:33:59.760 And they want to see, yeah.

05:34:02.780 He was big?

05:34:03.800 He was more than I ever needed.

05:34:06.440 So it wasn't because she's saying it's because of the small. 0.97

05:34:09.040 No, it was because he was a cuck. 0.81

05:34:12.440 I did ask him once if he was, and even today, he cannot, well, I don't know what he does, but he cannot be faithful to a woman. 0.98

05:34:21.480 I need a cuck queen.

05:34:23.560 What? 1.00

05:34:24.280 I'll watch.

05:34:25.140 I'll sit and watch for you.

05:34:26.980 I've done that.

05:34:27.880 I'll sit in the corner and watch.

05:34:29.520 Go ahead.

05:34:29.700 There's a lot of them.

05:34:30.280 You want to watch?

05:34:31.100 Come on, man.

05:34:32.000 I'll be the cheerleader.

05:34:32.980 I'm your advisor.

05:34:33.940 Let's go. 1.00

05:34:35.920 Yeah, no, I need a cuck queen. 1.00

05:34:38.000 So I need to date a girl who lets me cuck her. 1.00

05:34:42.480 Yeah, just give me a good allowance, and I'll sit in the corner, and I'll watch and cheer you guys on. 0.93

05:34:47.880 I saw this thing on Reddit.

05:34:50.380 Oh, God.

05:34:51.560 Tell me if this would at all be appealing to any of you.

05:34:55.360 All right.

05:34:55.980 So you're laying on a bed, and then it could be the position, whatever. 0.99

05:35:02.720 and then another woman

05:35:04.700 is laid on top of you 1.00

05:35:06.600 and

05:35:08.860 already no

05:35:10.080 it just sounds claustrophobic 1.00

05:35:12.740 the woman on top gets fucked 1.00

05:35:15.000 so every thrust is not 1.00

05:35:16.600 you feel the thrust but you don't get

05:35:18.960 I'll be the voyeur

05:35:19.860 that's handmaid tale style

05:35:21.780 I'll just be the voyeur 0.99

05:35:23.240 I don't want to do shit anymore 0.98

05:35:25.280 but watch and cheer 0.98

05:35:27.200 I've never participated in

05:35:30.480 I'm not breaking my celibacy

05:35:32.180 It's been so long.

05:35:34.240 Okay.

05:35:35.600 But my confusion is, okay, we were talking about body count, and we'll go around.

05:35:39.300 Hold on.

05:35:39.920 Let's do the body count, and then we'll come back to your thing. 0.99

05:35:43.880 Body count? 0.63

05:35:44.420 Nine.

05:35:45.380 Nine.

05:35:45.880 Nine?

05:35:46.880 Wait, say it again.

05:35:47.560 Say it again.

05:35:49.000 What, you want to say something?

05:35:50.760 No.

05:35:51.400 No, no.

05:35:51.900 It's just the camera wasn't.

05:35:53.000 No, I'm not going to push that button.

05:35:54.500 No, I'm not going to push that button on me.

05:35:56.280 Just say it.

05:35:56.680 Say nine.

05:35:57.660 No.

05:35:58.200 Okay, next.

05:35:59.720 I'll say maybe 20.

05:36:01.080 Maybe 20.

05:36:02.020 Okay.

05:36:02.440 Five. 0.99

05:36:03.660 Heather? 1.00

05:36:04.220 Three.

05:36:05.720 Why would you go lower?

05:36:07.880 So wait, your first lie was, okay, all right.

05:36:12.040 Less than two.

05:36:13.760 Less than two.

05:36:14.840 I'm not going to say.

05:36:15.960 Give us a range.

05:36:17.440 No, I already told you I'm not a virgin, but I'm not going to say.

05:36:19.820 Alexis Gertrude.

05:36:21.640 There's no Alexis. 1.00

05:36:23.340 MacGyver or whatever the fuck Irish people are. 1.00

05:36:26.440 MacMillan. 1.00

05:36:28.460 Alexis.

05:36:29.880 There's no Alexis.

05:36:31.300 It's just Alex.

05:36:32.040 okay alexandra alexandra alexandra um what's like a typical what are the what's the the irish

05:36:42.080 girl mcconnelly mc no not last name like girl just girl in the first name like moira or something

05:36:50.620 ridiculous oh yeah yeah wait wait there's a wait wait i gotta google this otherwise it's gonna

05:36:55.760 bother me irish first girl name it's um oifee soy soy say searsha searsha yeah like searsha

05:37:07.720 ronan wait there's another one though uh talula no i don't think so i don't know um

05:37:17.920 there's another one that whatever okay uh well you can call me any name i'm not gonna tell you

05:37:24.500 give us a range more than 10 more than one 10 to 20 i'm not going to give you a range i'm not 0.98

05:37:31.220 having that live on the internet sorry okay blowjob count oh my god absolutely not 0.99

05:37:35.940 all right sorry uh what's your count i'm a virgin 0.99

05:37:40.760 yeah yeah yeah i'm a i believe it you act like a virgin i act like a virgin yeah i have virgin aura

05:37:51.500 yeah let's go that sounds nice let's go the compliment um yeah maybe i'll lose it tonight

05:37:59.240 who knows i'll be in the corner cheering you on go go go all right yeah

05:38:04.860 okay going back to you yeah you okay you um you said prior to your marriage your body count was

05:38:13.320 like four or something like that no i think or seven about seven okay seven and then you put

05:38:19.140 You put up some bodies during the marriage, but the marriage was on the ropes, not in good shape.

05:38:24.800 Never was.

05:38:25.700 And that never was.

05:38:26.700 And then, but my confusion is you said your body count is like 45, 50.

05:38:31.420 You put most of those bodies up between the marriage, but you met your current husband while you were still with your ex-husband.

05:38:42.900 Cause you went on a date with your ex-husband.

05:38:45.320 you met your now husband while on a date with your ex-husband what what happened there well let's see

05:38:55.340 i'm trying to think me too well it was the early it was the late 90s number one i was 0.94

05:39:05.160 21 in 1999 shit and i was only a feminist from 19 to 21 i was hardcore feminist for about three 0.88

05:39:14.400 years and that's britney spears popping off backstreet boys popping off i understand there's 0.96

05:39:19.680 a lot of temptation a lot of temptation in the late 90s yeah backstreet boys

05:39:24.600 in sync that was the puka shell necklace the frosted tips i understand the men back

05:39:31.420 then with the frosted tips it's very hard to resist very hard to resist the men in the late

05:39:37.240 90s i understand yes yes how many of them had frosted tips oh i didn't really do that kind

05:39:43.200 No, I liked it.

05:39:44.940 I liked the band guys.

05:39:47.600 No, I liked drummers and guitarists.

05:39:51.180 They didn't have to play rock music, but my ex-husband learned how to play the guitar

05:39:56.380 because he was the only one that had never played.

05:39:59.940 Of course.

05:40:01.120 It was one of those eras for me.

05:40:04.440 They did a lot of band dudes.

05:40:08.200 That was a good time.

05:40:10.920 It was.

05:40:12.180 They just don't have the same draw now.

05:40:14.540 Rock is kind of dead, I feel like.

05:40:16.620 It is.

05:40:18.000 Kind of dead.

05:40:19.180 Kind of dead.

05:40:20.080 You know, Heather, because you sort of dated a rock star.

05:40:24.100 Yeah.

05:40:25.680 Honestly, I feel like 80s to early 2000s, peak civilization.

05:40:32.400 Peak everything.

05:40:33.540 Peak civilization.

05:40:36.080 Decadent.

05:40:36.720 The music was better.

05:40:38.000 um there wasn't like social there wasn't social media barely a cell phone barely cell phones

05:40:44.780 pager just like peak civilization yeah yes and now

05:40:50.480 here we are here we are here we are i feel like i'm partially blamed for that i feel like our

05:40:59.040 generation is partially to blame for what these guys are dating today i don't think so i'm just

05:41:05.000 because we grew up in the third

05:41:06.980 well we are the third wave 1.00

05:41:09.160 of feminism we were the girl

05:41:11.120 power I am woman hear me 1.00

05:41:13.180 roar that was our

05:41:15.200 generation that was the 90s

05:41:17.400 that was the early 2000s 0.99

05:41:19.380 well you guys are just didn't give a shit 0.98

05:41:21.380 we were just like let's party 0.99

05:41:23.380 let's go full force 0.80

05:41:25.400 we just didn't give a damn

05:41:26.280 honestly I'm gonna take the L

05:41:29.320 on this I don't place

05:41:31.240 any blame on Gen X

05:41:33.160 I do

05:41:34.340 I feel like we were having babies 0.95

05:41:36.300 I'm millennial we fucked everything up 0.94

05:41:38.940 you think are you really taking credit for that 0.82

05:41:40.800 I think I'm not

05:41:42.500 you think it's your generation though 0.98

05:41:44.280 I think my generation fucked everything up 0.97

05:41:46.780 I feel like we gave too much 0.91

05:41:48.380 we were the originators

05:41:50.920 of woke

05:41:51.820 my generation originators of woke

05:41:54.640 of all this 0.99

05:41:56.140 like triggered bullshit 1.00

05:41:58.120 it's 1.00

05:42:00.460 liberal 1.00

05:42:01.360 uh millennial liberal women who have done severe damage so you're saying you would not date a 1.00

05:42:10.780 liberal woman is that what you're saying her labia if she had a long one to her knees um i would try 0.95

05:42:16.620 to fix her i would try to change her if she had a big labia but um it's not my preference to date 0.95

05:42:23.240 like a feminist or a liberal woman you know so yeah somebody in the chat i'm same age as brian 0.99

05:42:32.980 and brian is so wrong brian is wrong hey maybe i am i'm just talking out of my ass a little bit 0.99

05:42:39.300 here um the gen xers are the mothers of these kids well shit but then yeah gen if gen x is the 0.99

05:42:47.120 parents of zoomers are the zoomers bad i don't know kind of the younger they get the more retarded 0.98

05:42:56.660 things are i don't know just well and i don't mean i i say that generally speaking there's 0.94

05:43:03.780 obviously young people who are super sharp and whatever but i think that uh

05:43:08.400 they just they don't got no respect these younger kids got no respect there's like a lot of a lot

05:43:16.560 of entitlement too you know it's just a lot of that's something we weren't necessarily no

05:43:21.400 we were not we were like had to be also like we had kind of standards too with our parents on 0.61

05:43:29.020 what we get our ass whooped there you go yeah and if you have not been whooped in a cycle a lot of 0.93

05:43:35.220 times in society i can just point you out now you can call the cops on your parents and they whoop 0.99

05:43:40.900 Really?

05:43:41.820 Yeah.

05:43:42.500 Oh, they say that now in Arizona.

05:43:45.140 They can.

05:43:45.820 That's why they can't.

05:43:46.400 But I handed my son the phone.

05:43:48.580 Right.

05:43:48.740 You just call their bluff one time.

05:43:50.580 Tell them that you'll call them first, and they have to get to the house.

05:43:54.700 True. 0.53

05:43:55.340 Yeah.

05:43:56.220 I turned that phone around real quick. 0.99

05:43:58.420 Offer them to call social services so they take them away.

05:44:02.860 I know what social services is.

05:44:04.320 I'm a mandated court reporter.

05:44:06.400 That's what I do.

05:44:07.560 I made a joke.

05:44:08.320 I just thought that if your kids

05:44:10.320 Y'all don't like it 1.00

05:44:13.040 Her jokes suck 1.00

05:44:14.820 She's not funny 1.00

05:44:16.140 Is it because she's wearing a cross? 1.00

05:44:18.180 Ever since she tried to come for you 0.66

05:44:19.200 No

05:44:20.740 If your children

05:44:23.880 If your children call police on you

05:44:26.320 You just tell them that you're going to call

05:44:28.860 Social services and social services

05:44:30.640 Will come and take them away

05:44:32.220 So that was basically the joke

05:44:35.300 And that's almost abuse

05:44:38.160 I'm sorry 0.92

05:44:39.140 I'd rather pop his rear than be like

05:44:41.860 I'm going to call an authority on you

05:44:44.500 Of course you're not going to

05:44:45.920 No, I'm not

05:44:47.280 Brian, I have a question for you

05:44:49.080 Yeah, I'm ready

05:44:52.020 Okay, so

05:44:53.940 If

05:44:56.300 Well, I'm going to

05:44:58.400 Do both of these things

05:44:59.620 But I want your opinion

05:45:02.760 Okay, I'm ready

05:45:03.580 Okay, so 1.00

05:45:04.820 I'm going to get my boobs taken out 0.98

05:45:07.440 they're almost you have fake clearly so it's you don't well yeah but regardless so okay you're 0.97

05:45:14.980 getting the yeah yeah they're almost 25 years old they've out they've outlived the doctor so

05:45:18.920 but anyways yeah so i've got some pain whatever so i'm gonna take them out but i'm want to auction

05:45:23.620 them off on ebay so is that considered like a bad thing excuse me um are you asking if it's sex work

05:45:34.480 yes i don't think it's not right it's just it's not sex work well hold on let me think about this

05:45:40.760 it's not it's like hold on wait wait wait wait it's yeah because he doesn't want to answer

05:45:45.040 yeah but hold on incorrectly no well i okay i'm thinking about think on that i gave you like a

05:45:53.680 knee-jerk reaction but do the women who sell bath water is that a form of sex work and i would say 0.54

05:46:01.840 yes so oh is there a market for that there is oh thanks for the idea my bath water well i just 0.63

05:46:08.700 started to i haven't done i haven't done much on it but i started a foot page called rock of toes

05:46:12.980 so brian i'm gonna want me to write your name i'm gonna see how that works too as now if that's

05:46:17.040 even you actually want to sell them on ebay is that no i don't even know on ebay but wherever

05:46:22.560 medical waste i don't know if that's even no it's saline it's salt water i guess there's salt water

05:46:28.140 right that's kind of like gross though there are fetishes out there for it and like that's inside

05:46:36.540 you internally and like a way that's like so is uh some people like pee and toenails it's a whole

05:46:43.860 thing it's a whole thing so would you would you be okay with like if your partner would do that

05:46:50.920 or is that like frowned upon yeah if you could get say 20 30 50 grand whatever it is so

05:46:57.460 you're not going to get that much for your from iraq that's been on tv on multiple shows

05:47:05.720 i don't think you know what do you think you might get a couple hundred bucks what you're

05:47:10.120 crazy nobody's paying i mean hey good for you if you prove me wrong let's prove them wrong you guys

05:47:16.800 think anyone's gonna pay more than a thousand for fake for plastic saline bags that were inside of

05:47:26.560 you you'll be surprised yes let's see well we'll keep in touch and like we'll you know

05:47:32.900 if i'm wrong i'm wrong then you know that's fine we'll see but so back to the question is that like 0.99

05:47:39.340 in your category of awful work for women well first off i don't i i don't typically like women

05:47:46.640 who have plastic surgery it's not a hundred percent it depends what and it's not a hundred

05:47:51.700 percent a deal breaker so like it's unlikely that i would date a woman who even has implants to

05:47:59.340 begin with but if i did i certainly wouldn't want her to sell them on ebay okay yeah oh well luckily

05:48:07.200 i'm single i can do whatever well yeah you're not taking me so do whatever you want i guess

05:48:10.820 i just was curious your opinion you know because your opinion yeah i would not feel comfortable

05:48:15.780 with my girlfriend or wife

05:48:18.240 selling her 1.00

05:48:19.840 fake titties. 0.99

05:48:22.000 What about just riding 0.99

05:48:23.920 on the toes?

05:48:25.900 What do you mean riding

05:48:28.100 on the toes? So people will pay to get their

05:48:29.940 like, alright, beat Brian

05:48:31.740 on my toes.

05:48:33.740 Do you sell this? Well, I'm launching a foot

05:48:36.020 page called Rock of Toes.

05:48:37.500 That's a thing, man. Yeah. I stomp some

05:48:39.960 cake just for fun. 0.96

05:48:41.880 Oh, that's definitely sex work.

05:48:43.540 No, it's not. It's my feet.

05:48:45.780 hold on but if men do it i have multiple college degrees i have multiple licenses

05:48:50.400 i do you know i'm an entrepreneur so it's not like it's not sex work no it's not it's

05:48:58.200 i'm celibate there's no sex going on in my life by choice uh it's yeah that's um it's

05:49:06.100 controversial uh hobby i would say you're bored with it no i'm just sorry i mean you didn't sleep

05:49:14.440 so well tonight um okay uh yeah don't do it though don't do what i'm looking out for you

05:49:20.880 heather sell my you're a real estate agent heather excuse me if i'm gonna try to hire someone to be

05:49:26.280 my real estate agent she can't be doing foot pics have you seen the shows i've done over the past

05:49:32.760 20 years rock of love first off that's different it's not people still look at it i still you know

05:49:40.260 don't get all the clients i want because of that that's you first life that's you first off like

05:49:46.800 that was so long ago um but people still think it's like today because it's still streaming 1.00

05:49:53.840 that's like reality tv that's not sex work but there was tits and ass all over the place right 0.99

05:50:00.320 so sex work though being on a really uh a funny dating reality tv show with brett michaels 0.99

05:50:07.300 lead singer of poison that's not sex work um you could say you could say i would i wouldn't even

05:50:15.960 necessarily say this um or maybe i would i don't know some people might say it's bad taste but it's 0.88

05:50:22.260 not sex work doing the feet foot thing that's like you're on the line of sex work it's sex work

05:50:31.220 we'll just say it's sex don't do it heather i'm looking out for you you can't be look but yeah

05:50:36.680 As far as your current job as a real estate agent, it's one thing, okay, 20 years ago, I was on a reality TV show on a major TV channel, VH1.

05:50:48.980 That's one thing.

05:50:50.580 Actively selling feet pics currently while you're engaged as a real estate agent, absolutely not, Heather.

05:50:58.340 You shouldn't do it.

05:50:59.460 I'm looking out for you.

05:51:01.560 Just sell your... 1.00

05:51:03.480 Boobs. 1.00

05:51:04.960 No, sell your houses. 1.00

05:51:06.680 sell your houses why can't i sell houses boobs and feet pics because heather what do you guys 1.00

05:51:12.820 think say in the comments what do people think you're a nice woman thank you i i see you're worth 0.87

05:51:19.120 more than that heather and i don't want you i don't want you doing that okay and as your father

05:51:27.300 i you're going to be disinherited okay so knock it off and you know what how about 0.56

05:51:36.460 Stand up and face the wall

05:51:38.520 And think about what you've done

05:51:39.900 No, I'm dead serious

05:51:41.800 No, I'm too hot, I'm like sticky

05:51:43.380 Right, you need a break from the chair

05:51:45.520 Stand up, face the wall

05:51:47.280 Heather

05:51:48.040 Face the wall and think about what you've done 1.00

05:51:51.040 No, your people don't want to see my flat ass 1.00

05:51:52.880 Fair enough 1.00

05:51:55.100 I don't have a butt, I don't 0.95

05:51:57.440 We're going to blast through the notes 0.87

05:51:59.280 I think we'll probably be one of the

05:52:01.760 Earlier shows

05:52:02.540 Let's see, we have 0.98

05:52:05.540 i i had a note to discuss the sydney sweeney thing oh here's the question who wait fuck i 1.00

05:52:14.600 want to make sure i say it right who do you think is worse for women sydney sweeney or lindsey clancy 0.97

05:52:22.120 okay i don't know much about the lindsey clancy case um worse for women i mean i want to say

05:52:32.060 sydney sweeney just because she just gives into the objectification of herself i guess but what

05:52:39.500 okay i'll come back but no no because i i don't know anything about the other case so if she is

05:52:44.680 mentally ill then i can't say she's i don't know well hold on so she killed three kids yeah but

05:52:49.940 how does that represent women how that's just her situation well it's also sydney sweeney's 1.00

05:52:56.400 situation that she's doing some somewhat provocative advertisements she's wanting to

05:53:03.680 convince people that this is like a way to she's not wanting she's not wanting to convince people 0.75

05:53:08.620 anything about women she's just a woman who's done some provocative advertisements yeah because 0.99

05:53:16.020 then girls look at that and think that that's the standard of how they should look and how 1.00

05:53:19.760 they should act but okay men then think that's what they should have but lindsey clancy murdered

05:53:25.320 three her her kids her three kids right but i don't think she's that's just like a random i 0.96

05:53:34.800 feel like it's such a random comparison i think sydney sweeney is worse for women 0.99

05:53:38.980 because what what's the other one okay wait wait sydney sweeney is worse for women than lindsey 1.00

05:53:48.620 clancy yeah because no normal woman thinks that that's a normal thing to do to kill your children 1.00

05:53:53.960 like younger girls could definitely be influenced by sydney sweeney in a much more social way 1.00

05:53:59.760 to become more and more like that nobody's sitting around thinking that there's vast 1.00

05:54:05.080 millions of women who are doing varying degrees of um downplaying downplaying of what lindsey 0.98

05:54:16.200 clancy has done some believe she didn't even do it total exoneration she's innocent she didn't do

05:54:23.280 it they want to blame uh the innocent victim patrick clancy well the primary victims of course

05:54:29.420 being the children uh other women are saying well we do acknowledge that she did it although

05:54:35.920 maintaining some level of doubt as to if she actually did it but it's okay i empathize with her

05:54:45.660 i gotta be honest lindsey clancy has done more damage arguably than sydney sweeney little ad

05:54:56.560 why but the lindsey clancy has not done anything to influence women

05:55:02.580 she hasn't like perhaps not well i would argue sydney sweeney is not intentionally doing 0.94

05:55:10.860 She's doing the ads to make money 0.96

05:55:13.720 She's not doing it for some greater 1.00

05:55:15.860 Propaganda purposes 1.00

05:55:17.900 She just wants to make a fuck down the money 1.00

05:55:19.660 For attention and fame and everything 1.00

05:55:21.120 And all of that right 0.98

05:55:22.420 Lindsay Clancy murked her three kids 0.82

05:55:25.780 And so

05:55:27.340 Just think it's a bizarre

05:55:30.440 It's bizarre

05:55:31.600 Selection

05:55:32.340 Alright well Ireland is

05:55:34.660 You think Ireland's bizarre

05:55:36.640 So you should talk to a therapist

05:55:39.680 Russia thinks Lindsay Clancy. 0.60

05:55:42.140 Lindsay Clancy worse.

05:55:43.300 Okay, what do you think?

05:55:44.020 Who the hell is the Sydney Sweeney? 1.00

05:55:46.080 Sydney Sweeney is a, I think she's a popular actress who has giant knockers. 0.97

05:55:54.340 I mean, I wouldn't say giant. 1.00

05:55:56.180 She's got big tits. 1.00

05:55:58.260 And she's, I don't even. 1.00

05:56:01.880 How old is she?

05:56:03.020 Is she a singer?

05:56:04.060 I think she's around 30, I think. 0.54

05:56:05.740 She's like 20.

05:56:06.400 Either late 20s or early 30s.

05:56:08.120 She's like 26 or 27.

05:56:08.760 And what's her occupation?

05:56:10.300 She was in Euphoria.

05:56:11.240 What's that?

05:56:11.700 It's a TV show.

05:56:12.860 Oh, okay.

05:56:13.340 So she's an actress. 1.00

05:56:14.480 And she actually has multiple times triggered people for, she did an interview, gave an answer that people didn't like. 0.99

05:56:25.260 She was in a jeans commercial.

05:56:29.960 That was maybe the first triggering of many.

05:56:33.140 and now she was in some sports betting commercial where she's close to naked and that's it that's

05:56:41.720 the controversy she was dressed to revealing or i feel like this is the most revealing time in 0.99

05:56:49.020 history right true you know but um so in the other chick but she killed her children yeah how like 1.00

05:56:58.340 did she just snap and then? Strangle them. 1.00

05:57:00.680 She strangled them? Yep. 1.00

05:57:02.360 Oh, that's terrible. Choked them to death. Yeah, no. 0.94

05:57:04.860 Fuck that bitch. Which one's worse? 1.00

05:57:06.900 Sidney Sweeney or Lindsay Clancy?

05:57:08.500 Lindsay. For women. 1.00

05:57:10.420 Yeah. Or in general. Lindsay Clancy. 0.96

05:57:12.980 Lindsay Clancy. Which one's worse?

05:57:14.700 Clancy. Clancy? Clancy.

05:57:16.540 Coming back to you. Yeah. Now, so

05:57:18.380 here, let me change it. Instead of

05:57:20.660 like saying who's worse for 0.80

05:57:22.620 women, let's just say who's 1.00

05:57:24.680 just worse. Okay, of course, the 1.00

05:57:26.560 woman who killed her children okay so you're saying as like an influence for women well yes

05:57:30.880 no one's taking real influence from the murderer lady hold on the lindsey clancy case has awoken 0.97

05:57:38.120 levels of retardation in women we have not seen we agree in 0.98

05:57:46.280 this is what the lindsey clancy thing is the most black pulling thing 0.99

05:57:51.520 i've honestly seen in my lifetime um i think lindsey clancy well okay there's women who are 1.00

05:58:00.700 going on the war path for her who are showing up to well when the trial was occurring showing up 0.60

05:58:06.520 to the courthouse doing heart emojis as she drives by like the idea i i understand i'm not gonna

05:58:14.220 to be totally misunderstanding what they're trying to do. Some of these women are saying, 1.00

05:58:22.100 hey, there's a mental health component to this. And she was taking these drugs. So there's a 1.00

05:58:28.460 big pharma component. And she had postpartum. And we should have some consideration for that. 0.99

05:58:37.080 But it's like, look, I think we can have a discussion of the impact of big pharma,

05:58:42.140 the over-prescription of certain medications, women who have postpartum depression, postpartum psychosis, but also be like, I support women who have those things, or rather, I understand the struggle of going through those things,

05:59:04.440 But to attach a sort of baseline level of support for Lindsay Clancy is actually insane, regardless of where you stand on those other topics.

05:59:15.960 It's like this woman killed her three kids.

05:59:19.960 So it's just random people that are out.

05:59:22.280 It's not her family.

05:59:23.340 It's random people that are outside just like giving her heart.

05:59:26.560 Have you seen the videos on Instagram? 1.00

05:59:28.920 There's women 1.00

05:59:30.940 Throwing their kids like pretending like 1.00

05:59:32.920 They would throw their kid into a wood chipper

05:59:34.960 And do like weird stuff 0.67

05:59:36.360 Oh my god

05:59:37.360 Same Lindsay they'll be holding their real babies

05:59:41.120 Oh my god give me the chills that's insane 0.71

05:59:42.900 So that's what's going on

05:59:44.160 It's like a mass psychosis

05:59:46.220 There's a bunch of videos like that I saw a video of a woman 0.96

05:59:48.700 Who like with a cup of water 1.00

05:59:50.620 Would like

05:59:51.340 Throw the water on the kid

05:59:54.640 I mean it's not really

05:59:55.660 It's not causing any actual physical harm

05:59:57.980 but this is like the thought process to even to do it yeah yeah no it's obvious just to be clear

06:00:02.860 it's wrong to do that right that's crazy they're they're like oh it's not a big deal it's like how

06:00:09.280 i release my aggression towards my child that's what they're saying and it's like whoa like that's 0.53

06:00:17.440 or i there's an there's this other trend where i got some pushback on this but women who would 1.00

06:00:23.520 take ice into their bathroom and like really aggressively throw the ice and on one hand okay 1.00

06:00:31.180 you're not causing any damage to anything or whatever but i'm like what's the point that's

06:00:38.000 a little like taking out their aggression on the ice and they're going into their bathrooms now

06:00:43.340 they have enough sense to set the camera up and make sure they're throwing the ice in the bathtub 0.99

06:00:48.980 to show how angry and unhinged they are with their babies.

06:00:54.980 And you have babies.

06:00:56.800 And the babies are in the bathtub?

06:00:58.300 No, the babies don't even have to be around. 1.00

06:01:00.660 They're just in their bathrooms acting crazy. 1.00

06:01:03.600 Wow.

06:01:04.040 Just acting out.

06:01:06.220 That's all separate. 0.98

06:01:07.060 The primary thing here is you have women who are going on the defense

06:01:10.480 who support this woman who murdered her three kids.

06:01:14.980 And it blows my mind.

06:01:18.080 okay well i did not know all that kind of influence was happening i've not been following

06:01:22.420 this case nor do i see these things on social media but in the case where it's having this

06:01:26.780 sort of influence um yeah then i would think that this case is worse for women fair enough 0.98

06:01:33.120 okay but i just thought that it was more about i thought there was maybe more of a mental health

06:01:37.300 component to it that's maybe just one of these situations where you know i i have no idea maybe 0.84

06:01:42.320 she just went totally off the wall and killed her children and that it's more of a mental health 0.99

06:01:45.940 issues so i didn't know why that would be bad for women but if it's having this this effect then you

06:01:49.920 uh yeah for sure it's a show i love that for you alex thanks all right guys like the video if you're

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06:02:11.900 If you want to learn how to become a master debater, two great courses, debateuniversity.com.

06:02:20.480 And then what is the other thing that I needed to say?

06:02:23.880 Oh, if there's anybody watching who has a contact at Twitch, I'm looking for someone who has a contact at Twitch,

06:02:30.840 someone who's got a contact at TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram, Meta.

06:02:37.120 Let me know because I'm trying to get a few account things sorted.

06:02:41.900 Let me see.

06:02:42.560 Are there any admins watching on Twitch?

06:02:44.320 Let me check.

06:02:45.840 Let me check.

06:02:47.340 Hold on.

06:02:49.460 One sec, guys.

06:02:50.600 One sec.

06:02:54.700 Okay.

06:02:56.200 How do I check?

06:02:57.000 Oh, yeah.

06:02:57.320 I'm going to check.

06:03:00.440 No.

06:03:00.960 No admins.

06:03:02.040 Okay.

06:03:02.400 Just mods.

06:03:03.340 Okay.

06:03:03.900 We got Kaibaka.

06:03:05.420 Yo, Kaibaka.

06:03:06.500 What's up?

06:03:08.460 VIP.

06:03:10.260 Where are you at?

06:03:11.020 where you been at Kaibaka

06:03:12.220 she's probably watching

06:03:15.320 Payo 0.89

06:03:15.880 giving all her subs to Payo 0.98

06:03:18.640 that's fucked up Kaibaka 1.00

06:03:19.840 whatever forever 0.99

06:03:22.380 not World of Warcraft forever

06:03:23.920 alright and then let me see

06:03:26.620 on a scale of 0 to 10

06:03:28.820 rate your own looks 1.00

06:03:30.180 and I'll go first

06:03:31.320 I won't go first but

06:03:33.960 I want you to

06:03:35.520 say face

06:03:38.900 and body so give me a face rating

06:03:40.700 and give yourself a face rating and body rating.

06:03:44.040 So on a scale of 0 to 10, rate your own looks, starting with you.

06:03:47.440 10, 10, you know what I was going to say.

06:03:48.700 Into the mic.

06:03:49.500 10, 10.

06:03:51.800 Say face 10, body 10.

06:03:53.720 Face 10, body 10.

06:03:54.960 One more time.

06:03:55.680 Face 1,000, body 1,000. 0.97

06:03:57.200 Say face 10.

06:03:58.360 Face 10, body 10.

06:04:00.100 Okay.

06:04:01.040 Now going to you.

06:04:02.600 I would say face 8, body 8.

06:04:05.360 Okay.

06:04:07.340 Face 4, body 4.

06:04:09.300 Okay.

06:04:09.600 What about you?

06:04:09.980 Face five, body five.

06:04:11.700 Okay.

06:04:12.180 Since I'm old.

06:04:12.780 Next, you.

06:04:15.640 Face eight, body eights.

06:04:19.720 My face is four and my body is a four.

06:04:22.740 Okay, I give myself a 4.5 face, 4.5 body.

06:04:26.800 I don't think that's a fair assessment because we can't see your face. 0.97

06:04:29.920 Let me shave your face on this pocket. 0.99

06:04:31.700 Please, please, let me shave your face. 0.98

06:04:34.580 So you're saying it would go lower or higher?

06:04:36.600 Higher.

06:04:37.460 If I shave?

06:04:38.160 Yes.

06:04:38.600 You don't like beards?

06:04:39.780 is what you know well i do like a george michael chenstrap but i'm saying that it's more youthful

06:04:45.720 like if you did if you shave just try it try it let me shave just let me shave let me shave it

06:04:52.960 for you i'm okay right on here right on here come on it'd be so fun who here shaves down below though

06:05:02.340 wax okay good talk um okay wait so uh 10 8 8

06:05:14.660 okay so a couple questions let's start with the 10 uh can you tell me as the do you you're the 10

06:05:25.140 do you think you're the most attractive woman at the table yes and i feel like everybody should

06:05:32.220 think that they're the most attractive woman at the table you're shaking her head do you agree

06:05:36.540 with her yeah i agree but you gave yourself an eight sure but i i like the idea that we all think

06:05:42.360 we have our own thing going on and that it's all different and everybody's their own idea

06:05:47.500 but how can but well i was just reading are there women who are nines out there

06:05:52.480 sure are there women who are tens yeah so how can you think you're the most attractive woman

06:05:57.160 if you give yourself an eight i just more mean like that i'm happy with myself

06:06:00.260 I suppose that's different

06:06:02.100 So you're the most attractive woman here

06:06:04.540 Yes

06:06:06.120 Are you the most beautiful woman here

06:06:08.380 Yes 0.53

06:06:08.960 Are you the hottest woman here 1.00

06:06:10.400 Are you the sexiest woman here 1.00

06:06:11.780 Do you have the biggest badonk here 1.00

06:06:17.440 I don't know what a badonk is

06:06:18.880 Badonkadonk

06:06:19.760 I don't know what that is

06:06:21.200 Cake

06:06:22.140 You don't know what badonkadonk is 0.87

06:06:26.140 No is that like some white slang 0.83

06:06:27.920 Are you messing with me 0.82

06:06:28.940 Is that something white people are saying? 0.97

06:06:29.960 Are you? 0.99

06:06:30.640 Girl, don't play with me.

06:06:35.100 But, okay. 1.00

06:06:38.040 Tell me a woman who's a 10, like a celebrity that we could Google. 1.00

06:06:43.980 Closer to the mic. 1.00

06:06:45.240 Closer to the mic.

06:06:47.560 Tell us.

06:06:49.300 Yeah.

06:06:50.440 Okay.

06:06:53.320 This is all opinion.

06:06:55.380 I'm going to just say my friend, Janice Hart.

06:06:58.940 She's a 10 out of 10. 0.95

06:07:00.780 Is she a celebrity? 1.00

06:07:02.800 She's got a two plus million on every platform. 1.00

06:07:06.660 She's got a fan base.

06:07:08.140 Well, I would say, okay, somebody that y'all know.

06:07:11.460 Is Beyonce a 10?

06:07:13.120 She's a 10. 1.00

06:07:14.640 That's a bad bitch. 1.00

06:07:15.540 Is Rihanna a 10? 1.00

06:07:16.640 Yes, she's a Pisces too, just like me. 1.00

06:07:19.020 Rihanna's a bad bitch. 1.00

06:07:20.720 10 out of 10. 1.00

06:07:25.820 Mary J. Blige, 10 out of 10.

06:07:28.940 uh okay and so beyonce 10 what about stacy dash you know stacy dash when she was young yeah

06:07:36.340 beautiful yeah play it on clueless clueless yeah yeah 10 no stacy dash not a 10 she thinks she's

06:07:45.080 a white woman she's delusional okay well setting aside her thinking she's a white woman is she a 1.00

06:07:50.620 10 no because she's she's starting to do her makeup like pale like trying to be white and 0.99

06:07:55.000 it looks crazy that's not 10 out of 10 behavior so you you 10 stacy dash and clueless no 10 not 0.98

06:08:04.480 a 10 no 10 when she was in clueless yes 10 out of 10 okay but now she don't look like that no more

06:08:11.860 well yeah she's a bit older now she's not as he is do you she's not confident do you mog do you

06:08:19.600 mog young stacy dash so when are you more attractive than are you currently more attractive 0.99

06:08:26.740 than stacy dash when she was in clueless yes i i feel like i'm the baddest bitch alive do you hear 0.99

06:08:35.460 me baddest bitch alive baddest bitch alive 10 out of 10 that's just how my confidence is and i feel 0.98

06:08:41.320 like every woman should feel like that i don't compare myself to other women i recognize other 0.99

06:08:46.240 beautiful women, but I don't be like, oh,

06:08:48.220 I never looked at somebody and said, oh, she 1.00

06:08:50.240 bad. Halle Berry.

06:08:51.980 Ten out of ten. But are you a

06:08:54.260 badder bitch than Halle Berry? 1.00

06:08:57.240 No, because she's rich. 1.00

06:08:58.900 No, no, just looks, though. 1.00

06:09:00.160 Just looks. Yeah, I'm badder than Halle

06:09:02.240 because she bad too. You a badder bitch? I don't compare 1.00

06:09:04.300 myself to her. I'm the baddest

06:09:06.220 bitch in the world. Baddest bitch in the world? 1.00

06:09:08.140 Yes. Are you a badder bitch? 1.00

06:09:11.060 Are you badder 1.00

06:09:12.160 than Megan Fox?

06:09:14.520 I just wanted to hear you say bad. 1.00

06:09:16.240 bad bitch. 1.00

06:09:18.120 Who was Megan Fox? 1.00

06:09:19.860 She must be a white celebrity. 1.00

06:09:21.640 She is a white woman. 1.00

06:09:23.320 She was in 0.99

06:09:24.580 the Transformers movie?

06:09:28.180 Did she date

06:09:28.920 MGK? 0.95

06:09:32.360 MGK. 1.00

06:09:32.880 Yes, a bad bitch. 10 out of 10. 1.00

06:09:34.880 Are you better looking than Megan Fox? 0.97

06:09:37.300 Are you better looking than Megan Fox?

06:09:39.860 Yes.

06:09:40.540 Any woman you name,

06:09:42.720 I'm finer than her. 1.00

06:09:46.240 are you hotter than yes um hotter okay um are you hotter than every single victoria's secret model

06:09:58.660 that's ever lived yes are you hotter than every single a-list actress that's ever lived yes are

06:10:06.100 you hotter than michelle obama yes why did you say that a bit more enthusiastically because

06:10:14.860 What are you trying to say?

06:10:16.560 If you give a name, the answer's going to be yes every time.

06:10:20.640 Are you more attractive?

06:10:21.820 Hold on. 0.91

06:10:22.540 I'm just going to Google list of hottest women list name. 1.00

06:10:28.920 Are you hotter? 1.00

06:10:31.160 Are you hotter? 1.00

06:10:32.780 Give me a fucking list. 1.00

06:10:35.240 List. 1.00

06:10:37.100 Sorry. 1.00

06:10:37.760 AI is being a bitch. 1.00

06:10:40.140 Little bitch. 1.00

06:10:41.280 are you hotter than elizabeth hurley i don't i don't know who that is just say well it's gotta 1.00

06:10:49.860 be yes just say yes then it's gonna be if it's me and somebody else the answer is yes for me are you

06:10:55.120 hotter than anna de armas yes i don't know her though are you hotter than margot robbie yes are

06:11:04.000 Are you hotter than Angelina Jolie?

06:11:06.920 Yes. 0.53

06:11:07.580 Is she fine as hell? 1.00

06:11:08.540 Are you more attractive than Jessica Biel? 1.00

06:11:14.760 Yes. 0.97

06:11:15.500 Are you more attractive than Scarlett Johansson?

06:11:19.500 Yes.

06:11:19.780 Are you more attractive than Jessica Alba?

06:11:29.060 Oui.

06:11:29.240 By the way 0.98

06:11:31.260 Whoever's fucking gonna clip this 0.97

06:11:33.820 It's gonna be hilarious 0.99

06:11:35.260 Young versions 1.00

06:11:36.100 Like the young version of all these women 1.00

06:11:38.300 Just make sure y'all use a good picture of me 1.00

06:11:41.100 Because I'm tired

06:11:42.160 My makeup is expiring

06:11:44.160 Are you more attractive 0.97

06:11:46.760 Who's that Victoria's Secret model 1.00

06:11:48.420 Brooke Snader 1.00

06:11:49.780 Are you more attractive than Adriana Lima 1.00

06:11:52.160 I don't know who that is but yes 1.00

06:11:54.440 Just show a fucking picture 0.99

06:11:58.200 Okay, pretend we just show the picture. 1.00

06:11:59.520 Are you more attractive than her?

06:12:00.740 Yep. 1.00

06:12:01.640 Shit. 1.00

06:12:03.560 Brian. 1.00

06:12:04.420 Hey, my Caucasian.

06:12:06.100 Do you see that?

06:12:06.920 Lexi or whatever.

06:12:08.660 Thank you, Lexi. 1.00

06:12:10.480 Are you more attractive than Giselle Bündchen or whatever the fuck her name is? 1.00

06:12:17.040 What was that? 1.00

06:12:18.120 I don't know. 1.00

06:12:18.520 A supermodel. 0.98

06:12:19.840 Are you more attractive than Lucy Liu?

06:12:22.680 Yes.

06:12:23.760 Are you more attractive than Cameron Diaz?

06:12:26.660 Yes.

06:12:27.060 Are you more attractive than Brooke Shields? 0.53

06:12:31.480 Yes.

06:12:32.660 Are you more attractive?

06:12:34.800 Chat, give me names. 0.77

06:12:35.980 Give me more names.

06:12:36.860 Chat, chat, chat.

06:12:37.640 Just blast names I can read. 1.00

06:12:39.960 Just Tyra Banks. 1.00

06:12:41.600 Are you more attractive than Tyra Banks? 1.00

06:12:43.620 Yes.

06:12:44.600 Are you more attractive than Sidney Sweeney?

06:12:47.400 Yes. 1.00

06:12:48.360 Who the fuck said Maxine Waters? 1.00

06:12:50.040 What the fuck? 1.00

06:12:50.780 uh are you more attractive than elliot page you fuckers uh uh i don't know any of these 1.00

06:13:00.440 are you more attractive than natalie portman yes are you more attractive than jennifer lopez 0.99

06:13:05.900 yes are you more attractive than uh who or lizzo hell yeah i'll give you that one i guess

06:13:17.160 Actually, she lost some weight recently, so I don't know. 1.00

06:13:19.380 I thought you were trying to say the weight made her underachie.

06:13:20.800 No, I'm just trying to check in.

06:13:22.420 I got to check in on Lizzo.

06:13:23.520 I don't know where she's at. 0.99

06:13:24.560 Are you more attractive than Nancy Pelosi? 1.00

06:13:26.640 Fucking shat. 1.00

06:13:27.760 Are you more attractive than Anne Hathaway? 1.00

06:13:31.080 Yes. 0.97

06:13:31.820 Are you more attractive than Rosa Parks?

06:13:34.500 Yes. 1.00

06:13:35.060 Are you more attractive than Pamela Anderson?

06:13:37.940 Yes. 1.00

06:13:38.300 Who's a babe from the 80s that I can... 0.88

06:13:42.060 Oh, Carmen Electra. 1.00

06:13:44.020 Are you more attractive than Courtney Cox? 0.95

06:13:46.380 Yes. 0.99

06:13:46.880 Are you more attractive than Carmen Electra?

06:13:49.280 Yes. 1.00

06:13:49.900 Are you more attractive than Jennifer Aniston?

06:13:52.800 Yes, and when you clip this, can I send you the picture to use?

06:13:55.920 Sure.

06:13:56.540 Okay.

06:13:56.880 Sure, sure.

06:13:57.300 Are you more attractive than, okay, I don't know, I can't.

06:14:04.320 Brooke Snader.

06:14:06.200 I don't know who these people are. 0.86

06:14:07.820 Are you more attractive than Kim Kardashian?

06:14:10.060 Yes.

06:14:10.500 Are you more attractive than Kylie Jenner?

06:14:14.780 Yes. 0.98

06:14:15.200 Are you more attractive than Kendall Jenner?

06:14:17.020 Yes. 1.00

06:14:17.520 Are you more attractive than Hayley Bieber? 1.00

06:14:20.500 Yes, I can't stand her. 1.00

06:14:22.140 Oh, boy.

06:14:22.600 All right, that's all I got.

06:14:23.740 Okay, good.

06:14:24.480 Are you more attractive than Marilyn Monroe?

06:14:26.780 Yes.

06:14:29.400 Okay.

06:14:31.520 Cindy Crawford, the musician. 0.96

06:14:34.460 Or wait, right? 1.00

06:14:35.260 No, she's a supermodel. 1.00

06:14:36.160 She was a supermodel. 1.00

06:14:36.760 Oh, yeah. 1.00

06:14:37.600 Are you more attractive than Cindy Crawford? 0.99

06:14:39.800 Yes.

06:14:40.700 I was thinking of Celine Dion for some reason.

06:14:43.880 Yes. 0.99

06:14:44.060 I mean, she might have been all right back in the day, you know, shit. 0.99

06:14:49.340 I'll take that Titanic money. 1.00

06:14:53.080 Miranda, are you more attractive than Miranda Kerr? 0.98

06:14:57.660 Yes, I don't even know who that is. 0.74

06:14:58.780 Are you more attractive than, what's that, Alessandria?

06:15:01.180 You must not believe me or something.

06:15:02.880 Alessandria Ambrosio.

06:15:05.040 She's like Victoria's Secret.

06:15:05.960 Do you feel some type of way? 0.95

06:15:07.980 Are you more attractive than Selma Hayek? 0.91

06:15:10.280 Yes. 1.00

06:15:10.660 Are you more attractive than Candace Owens? 1.00

06:15:16.840 Are you more attractive than Donatella Versace?

06:15:21.380 Okay, well.

06:15:21.980 Yes.

06:15:26.980 Caitlyn Jenner, bro.

06:15:28.380 The chat is on fire.

06:15:30.720 The chat's on fire.

06:15:32.040 Are you more attractive than Shrek?

06:15:34.980 Nah.

06:15:36.220 Okay, all right.

06:15:37.600 It's fair.

06:15:38.180 Nobody beats Shrek.

06:15:39.440 Nope, Shrek is a league of his own.

06:15:42.380 All right.

06:15:44.140 Tell me a guy who's a 10.

06:15:46.720 Tell me a guy who's a 10.

06:15:47.820 My man.

06:15:48.960 Well, besides, like a celebrity, you know.

06:15:51.320 My man.

06:15:52.000 Michael B. Jordan.

06:15:54.820 Is he a 10?

06:15:56.760 Yeah.

06:15:58.300 I was, I guess.

06:15:59.540 Is Brad Pitt, when he was young, a 10?

06:16:01.680 Brad Pitt, yes.

06:16:02.600 He's still a 10, maybe?

06:16:04.020 He's still a good looking guy.

06:16:04.900 I don't know what he looks like.

06:16:05.500 You don't know how old Brad Pitt looks like?

06:16:07.700 Not right now. 1.00

06:16:08.480 He's probably old as shit. 1.00

06:16:09.440 He still has a swagger. 1.00

06:16:11.640 He's still a good looking guy.

06:16:13.260 If he's sober.

06:16:15.800 Nick Jonas.

06:16:17.820 A Jonas brother.

06:16:20.660 Yes.

06:16:26.040 Give me a rating.

06:16:27.620 Give me a looks rating.

06:16:30.180 Honestly,

06:16:32.780 I don't

06:16:34.520 like your personality

06:16:35.760 all that much.

06:16:36.600 Just looks. I get it.

06:16:37.520 You're actually a 10.

06:16:40.640 You're actually a 10.

06:16:43.660 You just should have put some sunburn on the other day because you're a little sunburn.

06:16:47.040 I'm going to need you to help me with what I'm about to say.

06:16:49.820 I'm going to say really, and you're going to say the N-word.

06:16:54.020 Ready?

06:16:54.900 Really? 0.96

06:16:55.540 Nigga. 0.92

06:16:56.720 You think I'm a 10?

06:16:57.880 Come on.

06:16:58.700 Come on.

06:17:00.180 You're not bad looking.

06:17:02.000 You think you think you're bad looking?

06:17:07.520 you look you look good until you start talking thank you

06:17:15.580 i appreciate that i appreciate that for my people wakanda forever um so uh

06:17:25.240 i don't know all right okay all right uh okay we got an eight uh eight we got the eight and

06:17:33.580 got the eight uh okay you're an eight give me a looks rating i'd say i don't know like a seven

06:17:41.380 or an eight you're handsome i'm going back to you well you gave me a 10 and so you're a 10 so

06:17:49.220 okay cool uh eight and you're tall so okay give me a looks rating maybe like a 5.5

06:17:55.880 five five point six maybe six and you're you're an eight but you wanted to give yourself higher

06:18:03.600 it sounded like why well you were saying that you should always you agreed with her uh you should

06:18:09.100 always view yourself as the most beautiful well i don't think you should always but i think it's

06:18:13.980 great when you do it's great why is it great when you do just good like you know self-empowerment

06:18:19.020 confidence all those things and nothing good really comes from thinking you're hideous does it

06:18:24.180 well i don't so okay i don't think you have to think you're hideous but i think you can be like

06:18:29.680 you know what i'm like average looking or i'm at a maybe a bit above average looking but i'm not 1.00

06:18:37.760 i'm not this attractive yeah but i think that's hard for women obviously so so women shouldn't 0.80

06:18:45.220 do hard things depends on how uh you know what they get out of it what like what's there to be 0.90

06:18:51.820 gained from knowing you're an average looking person versus thinking you're a great looking

06:18:55.420 person exhibit a so uh perhaps the predicament you find yourself in alex gertrude nick lovin

06:19:09.640 you view yourself as nate sure so that's going to inform your dating decisions you view yourself as

06:19:19.980 this level of attractiveness. So then therefore you would want to date a guy who you consider an

06:19:25.680 eight. Compounding this effect is the fact that women tend to overrate themselves and underrate 1.00

06:19:33.400 men. So it's not just like when you're looking at a guy who's an eight, you're actually like, 0.99

06:19:41.220 that tends to be beyond what we would potentially even consider an eight. That aside though,

06:19:48.520 um if you are not aware of where you land in the dating marketplace you're going to be holding out

06:20:00.780 for a certain caliber of guy who may just be chasing after you sexually but would never give

06:20:07.600 you commitment and i think this actually pans out for you because you say that of the men that you

06:20:14.860 like you probably reject a bunch of men you're not just going on a date with anybody the guy

06:20:19.020 has to you have to have some level of attraction for the guy maybe some alignment on other things

06:20:24.060 you said you've been on 100 dates in the past four years or not just 100 dates excuse me you've been

06:20:30.640 on dates with 100 different men in the past four years you said consistency with all of them was

06:20:38.340 the issue um do you have any guys in the friend zone like that i've dated and then we became

06:20:45.340 friends that that were more into you than you were into them and that that would have been

06:20:52.440 consistent for you but you're lacking of attraction for them yeah that happens often right the reality

06:21:01.520 is probably those guys that you are curving that you are friend zoning or you know whatever

06:21:06.960 those are the guys who would give you the consistency that you so desperately want

06:21:11.960 but because you assess yourself as this level of attractiveness

06:21:16.720 perhaps they may very well be in your league on your league but you're overlooking them because

06:21:24.520 you think you're this attractive so that's the damage it actually does to think that you're

06:21:29.140 i'm an eight but say i'm not gonna give you a rating yet anyways say a woman's a five but 1.00

06:21:35.680 she thinks she's an eight she should probably match up with the dude who's around a five

06:21:40.680 instead of holding out for the eight no no i understand but i mean

06:21:45.040 you know i'm just basing it off natural attraction i'm not really analyzing things that way

06:21:50.140 i'm not looking at some guy's profile and thinking oh jesus he's a seven i think i'm an eight

06:21:54.520 this can't happen well what okay what percentage of men do you on it because you almost exclusively

06:22:00.820 use hinge to meet all these men so what percentage of men are you swiping yes on on the dating app

06:22:06.920 what percentage out of what the ones that like me already so okay what person so in order to

06:22:15.300 do a match right uh you have to hit like so what percentage of men i know that there's a feature

06:22:23.120 where you can see who's already liked you or whatever and then you can see like the you don't

06:22:30.140 know if they've liked you or not yet or whatever. I don't know. Um, what percentage of men do you

06:22:35.560 hit like on? Okay. Well, I don't really browse through it. I just look at the likes that have

06:22:40.680 been sent to me. So, okay. So then of those, let's say if there's a hundred of those, let's

06:22:45.720 say I'll pay attention to maybe like five out of that. Five or like them back, whatever way you

06:22:51.980 want to mind you, this is, um, and I don't know if this would be different if you're just swiping

06:22:57.460 in the normal mode but you're picking from the men who already like you so you're rejecting

06:23:03.060 95 percent of the men who would date you right um and you're i assume you're doing this

06:23:15.260 a good amount based on looks um like what do i select them based on

06:23:23.500 It's primarily a physical attraction

06:23:26.480 Well, I mean, that's, I suppose, the most important thing to begin with

06:23:29.560 Because without that, what do you have?

06:23:31.060 Yeah, well, I think it's fine to care about physical attraction

06:23:34.300 But to a degree

06:23:35.760 Yeah, and then it also helps, I find, if they leave a nice comment of some sort

06:23:39.900 I mean, some of them are crazy and weird

06:23:42.120 Sure, well, some of them just say hi

06:23:44.160 I don't know if that does it for you

06:23:45.760 Or if they're attractive enough, you still give them the pass

06:23:48.480 I guess the issue here, though, is you ask me

06:23:51.740 hey, Brian, why does it matter if I rate myself an eight or I view myself in this way?

06:23:57.580 Well, like I said, we just did kind of a bit of a dive into you only view.

06:24:05.440 So, okay, you've passed four years, 100 different men that you've dated, probably more.

06:24:13.080 You only swipe yes.

06:24:16.100 it's not even swipe of the men who like you of the men who like you five out of a hundred

06:24:23.200 so you're very picky high standards particular but are you attractive enough to be as selective

06:24:32.880 as you are well the likes keep coming so i guess so but the relationship doesn't come i know but

06:24:38.620 that's okay then i'd rather be alone and happy with myself then lower my standards and be with

06:24:43.020 a mediocre man i mean did it ever occur to you that you're mediocre no i just don't think that

06:24:54.020 so in what ways are you not mediocre i think i think i have a lot to offer in every way

06:25:00.720 and like that i'm happy with them myself i think i'm good looking i think i very much want to like

06:25:06.520 be in a healthy relationship where you know i do contribute things and i want to look after a guy

06:25:11.000 if we're talking about relationships still and i think that you know i've lived in i've moved to

06:25:16.440 different country that builds character and i mean i could go on but obviously i like myself

06:25:22.460 therefore i don't think i'm mediocre i think if you think you're mediocre that's really sad well

06:25:29.420 i know i understand that you can think it objectively okay hold on if you think you're

06:25:36.180 exceptional, but you're just like objectively mediocre, does that make you exceptional just

06:25:41.580 by virtue of thinking? Well, I think people are exceptional in different ways. People are on

06:25:46.000 different wavelengths and respond to different things. So I think, you know, based on the life

06:25:51.100 I want to live, I like how it's going and who I am. Well, it begets the issue here is it begets

06:25:58.600 the following question. If you are as exceptional as you think you are, how could you possibly

06:26:05.100 have been on dated a hundred men in the past year and none of them picked you i'm not waiting

06:26:13.480 around for them to pick me you you said the issue is that they're not showing a level of consistency

06:26:21.120 if you were as exceptional as you suppose you are wouldn't they pick you um well the guys that

06:26:29.500 are inconsistent are already the ones that i like so and also i think like i know a lot of girls who

06:26:37.520 you know go ahead no i was gonna say like if i think of other girls i know around my age same

06:26:41.460 place on the apps all that sort of thing you know they have all the same problems like i've yet to 1.00

06:26:46.020 hear of a woman because they're because they all think they're eights and nines and tens and they 1.00

06:26:51.240 think they're way more better they think they're way more attractive not just looks but they think 0.78

06:26:55.980 that they they have better personalities than they actually do they think they're not that 0.91

06:26:59.680 men even fucking care they're funnier than they actually are they think that they better looking

06:27:04.240 than they actually are they think that they're offering more than they actually are and so 0.97

06:27:08.520 they're chasing after a higher tier higher caliber of man and those men have all the options and 1.00

06:27:15.680 they're like this girl's not on my league i'm settling for her i'll just fuck her once twice 0.99

06:27:21.640 three times and that's it right but I mean if you're talking about like exceptions or not or 0.99

06:27:28.100 whatever like Shakira and Shania Twain are two women who have famously been cheated on and they're

06:27:32.860 both extremely good-looking people who are talented who have won awards for their music etc so you

06:27:38.480 know if men will betray them in theory would they not betray anyone yeah but I could just say this 0.91

06:27:42.800 about like super rich wealthy high status men too brad pitt fucking divorced uh will smith

06:27:51.880 and look we don't know the details of their private lives and various arrangements some of 0.61

06:27:58.120 them have interesting stories so to speak but like there i i can give you a long list of like 0.98

06:28:05.160 these are the most attractive men in the world uh high status rich wealthy fame all of that shit 0.98

06:28:11.660 and they get divorced their girl their their wife leaves them they get cheated on whatever it is 0.99

06:28:18.180 so so well i suppose i'm just simply explaining to you i'm explaining to you that um i don't know

06:28:31.860 you're saying that all these women are so amazing and like women often say this all my girlfriends

06:28:38.380 they're so successful and attractive and they're amazing people and they just can't find a guy and

06:28:44.920 it's like are they really that great though yeah because all guys just want easy girls they want

06:28:50.320 like dolls until they want to have an interesting conversation then they want you to turn that part

06:28:54.540 of yourself on and that's just kind of what i find no no no but i think women when they assess

06:29:01.600 themselves and when they assess especially their female friends they want they they ponder why is 0.96

06:29:08.500 it my girlfriend she's so smart and successful and attractive oftentimes completely overselling

06:29:17.440 like the positive qualities of this individual why is she struggling a guy would be lucky to 1.00

06:29:24.700 be with her meanwhile she's actually like mass rejecting all the men in her league chasing after

06:29:32.200 a man who's above her league of course this is the end result but i mean why are they in your

06:29:39.080 league just because they like you how is that how it equates that that that's not the only thing

06:29:44.340 just because you like somebody doesn't put you in their league um it doesn't put you below their

06:29:49.400 league also it's do you think i'm what i'm saying is incorrect that i should is it is what i'm am i

06:30:03.840 what i'm describing here is just not true it is not consistent with what is happening

06:30:09.800 yeah i think i i've dated all sorts of everybody so i don't think that can be the case

06:30:14.900 that I'm you like I think you're imagining that I'm just looking for some sort of like prince

06:30:19.880 charming who has an amazing job who has these movie star good looks he's going to treat me

06:30:23.660 some sort of crazy way but it's I can establish this by your own admission you said of the men

06:30:31.000 who already liked you you only put five out of a hundred yeah but I'm not looking to waste my time

06:30:37.000 and just date anybody there has to be something okay five to to not find attract okay 95 percent

06:30:47.200 of men from your perspective that that they like you on the dating apps you think 95 percent of

06:30:55.180 men are unattractive maybe they're objectively attractive in some way but i just i don't feel

06:31:02.280 interest in them and then they're i understand that there can be things if you actually look 0.79

06:31:06.080 at their bio and they're like, Hey, yeah, um, I'm sure I like to beat women or whatever. Like, 1.00

06:31:12.240 yeah, you probably wouldn't want to date that guy. I understand it. Like, I don't know what

06:31:16.380 guy would put that. I'm just using that as an example. I understand that there's things in the

06:31:19.800 bio, even if the guy's otherwise attractive and you still wouldn't want to date them. I understand

06:31:24.300 that five out of a hundred is really low, really low. That's attraction. Well, yeah, but the,

06:31:34.660 the issue is is that you okay be be honest with me be honest with me right i'm 37 right uh do you

06:31:45.120 think i have good odds of getting a 20 year old victoria's secret model why don't shake your head 0.99

06:31:52.420 yes what the fuck okay do you think that uh supermodels are going to fancy me potentially 0.99

06:32:01.320 I think everybody has their own set of interests. 0.99

06:32:04.160 But I can admit, and I'm not sad about it. 0.99

06:32:07.340 I'm not going to, oh, my God, the 20-year-old supermodels don't want to fuck me. 1.00

06:32:11.260 Oh, my God. 1.00

06:32:12.020 I accept reality.

06:32:15.340 But I can admit for myself that unless this is a Hail Mary miracle, 0.99

06:32:22.180 some fucking supermodel slides into my DMs or something like that, 0.98

06:32:26.280 I accept that I'm going to be dating average looking women for the most part. 1.00

06:32:32.980 You know, it could be plus or minus a point or whatever.

06:32:37.660 I can admit that you can't, you are even coping for on my behalf for some reason.

06:32:43.180 Oh, Brian.

06:32:44.100 Yeah.

06:32:44.440 I think really you think you think I, I mean, I thank you for having belief in me, but it's

06:32:50.880 not going to happen.

06:32:51.940 Now, if it does, I'm still going to show up in a very confident way.

06:32:55.600 i'm not like i yeah you don't think you're a loser a woman who's beautiful it doesn't intimidate me

06:33:01.660 sure i'm still going to show up in the same exact way as if i was dating a girl in my league so to 0.99

06:33:07.080 speak i don't think that's true i think you'd probably put in more effort with the supermodel

06:33:10.280 and you'd be more excited and therefore your excitement would change your actions and your

06:33:15.340 behavior that's actually a fair point i would say we we do want we do desire more something that is

06:33:23.660 say uh more valuable i guess you could say um so you do make a good point there but what i guess

06:33:31.100 what i'm trying to say is like i wouldn't i wouldn't turn like if the supermodel wanted me

06:33:39.300 i wouldn't be like some people will reject someone because you're like oh they're

06:33:46.300 too above me i'm like nah i'm taking the good deal well yeah totally i'm not pushing i'm not

06:33:52.400 going to turn away the good deal. Right. Um, I I'm trying to remember where I was going. Uh,

06:34:00.460 so, okay. You think it's realistic? I'm getting a, I think it's possible. Yeah.

06:34:05.080 People are attracted to people for a variety of reasons. What is possible? Okay. So I'm not

06:34:10.540 saying it's likely I'm saying it's possible. Okay. Well, I'm not interested really in what's

06:34:14.240 possible. I'm interested in patterns. I'm interested in what's likely I'm interested

06:34:19.120 in what's um probable okay i don't possible i mean it's possible i could okay here's what's

06:34:26.560 possible i could have a seven sum with all of you after the show that's possible but it's highly

06:34:34.400 improbable sure like it's it's logically possible it could happen right like after the show you and

06:34:41.880 me i could i could have uh who's the she's gonna be the cuck yes she's gonna be in the corner being 0.99

06:34:47.820 a little cock watching us have sex go like that's possible right impossible should we do it are you 1.00

06:34:53.740 are you down the cheerleader do you want to do it female advisor it's impossible yeah no but it's 0.99

06:34:59.160 it is it's not possible it is because i would have to say yes no but it's possible it's not

06:35:04.760 possible it's possible you could say yes not in this reality no it's possible you can say not

06:35:10.780 really no the point i'm trying to make is i'm not interested in possible i'm interested in what's 0.74

06:35:17.140 probable okay right so it's improbable i'm going to like uh a fucking 10 out of 10 victoria secret 0.68

06:35:28.000 model is going to slide into my dms well there are if she does great and i'm gonna handle that 0.83

06:35:32.960 just fine so it's never happened no victoria yeah it's never happened all right you you think it's

06:35:41.840 happened no i'm just asking i'm curious based on your example it's very specific like a victoria

06:35:46.440 secret supermodel women do dm me and contact me do victoria c uh supermodels do that do so

06:35:53.500 no and the women who dm you are very average in your opinion um yeah generally speaking i'd say

06:36:01.280 they're average looking plus or minus a point okay in in that range sure all right 0.72

06:36:07.780 no cool good chat good chat but you said what's interesting to me is you say you would in you're

06:36:21.500 not willing to settle you would rather die alone absolutely you would rather the stress of a man

06:36:28.800 for nothing you would rather die childless alone than perhaps reassess your own attractiveness 1.00

06:36:38.740 and recalibrate you know what i fucked too many hot guys that your brain is what what what's the 0.99

06:36:48.340 incentive for me to really do that uh companionship love children that whole thing i mean maybe maybe 0.99

06:36:57.180 some point do you want kids yeah but not anytime soon really you're 27 sure i have a good 15 years

06:37:05.620 i'll be okay um i mean so look women just basing off women in my family too well look i understand

06:37:12.060 women can get pregnant in their 40s but the ideal time to start a family ideally i mean well i think

06:37:21.940 The ideal time is when you're ready.

06:37:24.060 I mean, think of it this way.

06:37:25.900 When's your birthday?

06:37:27.000 The 29th of March.

06:37:29.440 Okay.

06:37:30.060 So you got six months or so until you're 28.

06:37:36.140 You probably want to date a guy for one or two years before you consider getting married.

06:37:40.740 And then maybe you'll want to be married for a period of time, six months, a year, maybe

06:37:47.920 before you have kids, enjoy the marriage for a little bit.

06:37:50.040 maybe that's a shorter timeline maybe you date for six months a year get married have kids

06:37:56.720 three months later whatever uh you pretty much have to meet your guy now if you want to start

06:38:05.520 have your first kid at 30. I just I'm not worried about having my first kid at 30 that's

06:38:11.560 so when 35 40 whenever it makes sense but I understand that there's a timeline don't get me

06:38:16.980 wrong but i don't think it's something i have to be worried about right now and i'm not going to be

06:38:20.700 well i think we all need to be uh we all should try to be moving towards yes i am i'm trying to

06:38:27.620 date good guys but if it doesn't happen it doesn't happen yeah but you're overlooking good men

06:38:32.500 because you're chasing some superficial it's really not superficial you think five out of

06:38:38.480 100 men is attractive that's not my choice that's just who i'm attracted to what am i supposed to do

06:38:43.680 men i'm not attracted to it's the foundation of a relationship attraction well then you're just 0.99

06:38:48.000 perma-fucked like if there's something inside of you because you've either had sexual access 1.00

06:38:54.380 uh or more so men have had sexual access to you that are outside of your league 1.00

06:38:58.980 then then you've look i'll explain it maybe this will be illuminating um so here's my theory

06:39:12.860 on this. And it's not just a theory, it's true. As are all your theories, really.

06:39:18.760 Everything I say is 100% spot on and accurate. But it is descriptively a phenomenon.

06:39:28.440 So women can date and deal with men on a short term, typically just a strictly casual sex basis

06:39:38.780 with men outside of their league men on the other hand cannot do this vastly speaking generally

06:39:46.860 speaking so if i slide into an instagram girls dms i get ignored i don't get a response i don't

06:39:53.060 get a conversation i don't get a date i don't get anything get nothing right uh you can be

06:39:58.900 you know you can be a five six seven slide into a guy who's an eight nine ten dm and 1.00

06:40:06.940 all it takes for a woman be pleasant and make yourself sexually available men will sleep with 0.68

06:40:14.540 you they will never be in a relationship with you because in there i think there's a bit of a

06:40:22.240 difference i believe now this isn't universal i believe generally speaking for a woman to sleep

06:40:28.280 with a man into from an attraction perspective for a woman to sleep with a man he has to be at least

06:40:35.380 physically attractive enough that she would be in a relationship with him.

06:40:41.340 So now it often goes even further though. Sometimes women acknowledge, whoa, this guy's

06:40:48.520 really hot. Normally I wouldn't do a casual thing, but he's so attractive. I'll do casual with him.

06:40:56.680 And it's not ideal, but he's so attractive. Women will break their rule in that way. So women 0.98

06:41:02.420 who might not otherwise be inclined to casual sex if the guy's hot enough they'll do it then 0.99

06:41:09.120 men are the complete reverse so what men do is uh men will have casual sex with women that they 0.99

06:41:18.080 would never be in a relationship with just based on her looks so men will uh they'll sleep with a 0.99

06:41:24.880 girl and he would never be in a relationship with her but he'll have sex with her right 1.00

06:41:29.880 typically women don't do that like if a woman's trying to get her nut if she's trying to just 1.00

06:41:35.800 fuck she's gonna try to get the hottest possible guy whereas men they'll try to get anything i mean 0.99

06:41:43.360 men men obviously like even for a casual thing obviously the ideal is to sleep with the hottest 1.00

06:41:50.320 most attractive woman possible but that's not always on the table so men will settle men will 0.99

06:41:56.480 fuck down right women will if it's just fuck they'll fuck up right so then why doesn't the 1.00

06:42:03.620 male body count for all their garbage fucking count that's a separate conversation i'll get 1.00

06:42:09.460 to that later okay um because of this because of this um i think that women can skew because 1.00

06:42:20.100 you'll get sexual attention from men who are, say, this attractive. And you might be, maybe

06:42:27.520 sometimes they lie about their intentions, which is wrong for men to do. And it's a criticism I

06:42:33.140 have of men who lie about their intentions in order to get sex. That aside, if you're sleeping 0.85

06:42:42.400 with a guy who's this attractive, and it could be looks, but it could also be the other things that

06:42:47.640 make a man attractive it could be charisma personality humor status success uh is he

06:42:55.240 professional athlete professional musician all these things um that can warp your brain

06:43:03.660 in this way uh have you ever lived in a dorm room maybe i don't know if you're in college i forgot

06:43:10.600 but a dorm room like with in college with roommates yeah did you have room like roommates

06:43:15.700 have I ever had roommates shared a room have I ever shared one room yes no you've never shared

06:43:22.180 a room okay have you ever shared a bathroom in an apartment um no I don't think so okay

06:43:28.380 privilege um what about when you were growing up you didn't have a shared bathroom oh like that

06:43:33.700 sure sure now is it better to have your own bathroom or have a shared bathroom I have my

06:43:41.580 own bathroom is it better and then you did obviously your experience growing up you shared

06:43:45.240 a house with your parents do you do you think it's better to like have your own place have a

06:43:50.840 nice apartment have my own place right would it be difficult for you to go back say i don't know 0.78

06:43:56.800 the nanny shit i don't know whatever doesn't work out whatever uh would it be difficult for you to 0.63

06:44:02.580 go and have a roommate well actually where i'm staying right now technically i have roommates 0.98

06:44:08.680 i'm in an airbnb and there are other people living there but i have my own room and my own bathroom

06:44:13.280 and everything. Own room and own bathroom. Sorry. When I say roommate, sometimes it depends where

06:44:18.880 you live. When I say roommate, I mean someone living in your room with you. Would it be difficult

06:44:25.040 for me to do that? Yes. To go to having had the experience of having your own place, own room,

06:44:30.780 own bathroom. Yes. Because I'm conditioned to wanting more now. So I would never accept

06:44:35.040 less. It would be hard to go back. Yeah. And I don't want to. Why would I? I'm going to make

06:44:39.060 sure that doesn't happen. Right. And so because of this, it's very difficult because men don't

06:44:47.540 get that level of access to women outside their league, whereas women can secure short-term

06:44:53.220 sexual access to men who are outside of their league. And so you think, well, that's if, oh,

06:44:59.960 okay, if I can fuck a guy who's a eight or a nine, you're going to sort of be chasing that 0.99

06:45:06.800 feeling it's like a high it's like heroin once you've done i've never done heroin but i would 0.99

06:45:13.380 assume once you've done heroin nothing feels quite as good as that and it kind of like turns the

06:45:21.960 dimmer switch down yeah but everybody's standards get set by something right which is why well which 0.98

06:45:28.900 is why body count matters because once a girl's had enough dick and okay this guy was rich this 0.99

06:45:35.280 guy was really funny. This guy was really good looking. This guy was really good in bed. You 0.99

06:45:39.280 create an amalgamation in your brain, uh, of all the positive characteristics of all the men you've

06:45:45.440 dated. And then it's like, uh, there's going to be some apprehension when you're dealing with, uh,

06:45:52.200 with, uh, Brad. And it's like, well, he's got two out of the four things, but he's missing this and

06:45:59.560 he's missing that. And it makes things more difficult. And then maybe sometimes you land on

06:46:04.240 the guy who's the total package, but you don't keep them, but you're going to keep chasing that

06:46:09.840 feeling. You want, you want that because you know, it's out there. And so ultimately though,

06:46:16.920 ultimately you start thinking that's your league. The men who sleep with you is your league.

06:46:23.620 Your league is the men who will commit to you. That's your league. And that's no one. So what

06:46:28.620 am i a zero well what ideally what what ultimately would to assess what your league is it's the men

06:46:36.160 who would be in a relationship with you and if those men none of those men are you find attractive

06:46:42.540 well you're just too picky oh well okay whatever end of your bloodline oh well end of your bloodline

06:46:51.760 i can have children if i want to have children i can still have children without a man so you're 1.00

06:46:57.320 going to intentionally be a single mom i think single mothers can do a better job than like you 0.96

06:47:03.060 know two parents in some cases if they're not good parents can but unlikely if i think if you're

06:47:09.540 going to the trouble of doing artificial insemination or whatever it is uh then you're

06:47:14.140 pretty motivated to be a parent and a good one um you said you think sydney sweeney is worse for

06:47:22.540 women than a woman who killed her three children. That aside, that's not what I said, but here, 0.88

06:47:29.500 I'll give you one more example I wanted to give. Um, let me do the role reversal and see if this,

06:47:37.020 I don't know, Phil click. So, um, I don't have sexual, despite how much I might enjoy it. I

06:47:45.600 don't even have limited sexual access to supermodels or women who are like just really 1.00

06:47:50.460 good looking, but just want to use me for sex. Tragic though, that may be. Um, if there was a 0.93

06:47:58.260 scenario where there was just swarms of women who wanted to pay for dates and they wanted to do all 1.00

06:48:06.440 this just so they could sleep with me and they were this attractive or whatever, uh, but they 1.00

06:48:12.840 only wanted to use me for sex and they'd fuck me once, twice, or three times, but they were good 1.00

06:48:17.220 looking, like out of my league, so to speak. Explain the incentive for me to date the average 1.00

06:48:24.160 girl. It depends on what you're looking for, I guess. If you're really looking to settle down 0.60

06:48:31.340 and have a family do all these things and you know the supermodels are just being frivolous

06:48:34.600 or whatever, then yeah, you have a different incentive. But do you think that it would

06:48:39.760 introduce complications to the me my willingness to date the average woman if you know what maybe 1.00

06:48:51.320 the next supermodel that wants to fuck me once or twice or three times maybe i can get her i mean 0.98

06:48:58.020 in theory i think if you were a teenager or something maybe but i think we all analyze 0.99

06:49:02.900 our lives a lot more than that and i think it's all about intentions and your motivation

06:49:07.360 to like achieve what you want so if you're looking to settle down have a family all that and you know

06:49:12.740 these supermodels just into you for i don't know one night or whatever your example is then you 0.90

06:49:18.080 wouldn't go about looking for them okay if i were to flip flip the rules do you think men would

06:49:24.960 actually want to have like get into the relationships they do what men what do you mean

06:49:33.540 just all men do i think men would get if we flipped to the roles where um just a bunch of 0.99

06:49:38.680 hot chicks wanted to fuck us and we uh we did well i honestly i think men are a bit delusional 0.93

06:49:48.600 anyway i think a lot of men if you if you ask the men the same question at this table you've asked 0.99

06:49:52.440 us they all think that they have the potential or a lot of them think they have much more potential

06:49:56.840 than they do for sure i'm willing to grant that there are some delusional men but there's far

06:50:01.000 fewer delusional men that there are delusional well i think because we get slapped with reality

06:50:06.520 because look first off i i disagree with your assessment here um while there are some uh

06:50:13.480 delusional men i think if i were to ask if i were to ask a hundred thousand women what percentage

06:50:19.800 of men are you attracted to that average number is going to be way lower than that okay men what

06:50:26.360 What percentage of women are you attracted to?

06:50:28.220 I think women are going to be 5%, 10%, 20%, right? 0.87

06:50:33.120 Men are going to say 50%. 0.82

06:50:34.840 Half of women are attractive, maybe more even.

06:50:38.000 The thing is, most women are not attracted to most men.

06:50:43.040 Most men are attracted to most women.

06:50:46.440 Sure. 0.96

06:50:47.680 Right.

06:50:48.480 And so we have this dilemma where, I don't know.

06:50:53.960 it's very complicated i think the men are starting to become attracted to men so that's part of the

06:50:59.480 problem too no there's even more competition it's very battle of the sexes wait the gay thing i

06:51:04.260 mean it's funny but the it's true no it's not the this idea that uh the hetero the men you

06:51:11.980 encounter and like heterosexual dating contacts are secretly gay i understand that that happens

06:51:17.600 but maybe if you're a liberal woman trying to date like a soy boy feminist or whatever maybe 0.57

06:51:23.480 it's more likely but the vast majority of heterosexual men are not secretly gay that's 0.99

06:51:29.540 ridiculous we'll never know look you might not end up with the hottest dude or whatever 0.91

06:51:41.680 honestly consider lowering your standards a bit um give a guy a shot sure maybe give a guy a shot 0.93

06:51:50.260 who you're like let me ask you a question do you need to feel the click um like when okay say first

06:51:58.440 first date and maybe the guy's a bit nervous or awkward or something no i often i've often done

06:52:03.420 like a second date because i think that the guy you know maybe for whatever reason maybe he was

06:52:07.640 tired he was under pressure whatever it was that he wasn't being his like best self well assume the

06:52:12.400 click doesn't occur on the second date either yeah then i'm probably signing off have you ever dated

06:52:17.080 a guy where the click was the strong picture the guy who you had the strongest connection to ever

06:52:23.220 okay are you picturing him do you know do you know who it is you don't have to say his name but

06:52:28.380 one quick question was was that your boyfriend of a year uh a year and a half i would say yes

06:52:36.640 okay um was that a good relationship no but i the second i saw him what was wrong with the

06:52:45.200 relationship um he was he was insane okay now we're getting somewhere okay the second you saw

06:52:51.340 him what were you gonna say uh i instantly thought he was like most attractive person i'd ever seen

06:52:56.640 physically attractive or for how he carried himself or otherwise like both all of it he had

06:53:02.280 some sort of mystique articulate it what what was it uh just like the way he moved it looked

06:53:07.700 different and just the way he like his posture everything about him seemed exotic exotic yeah

06:53:14.040 yeah yeah white guy yeah i said he was polish polish i mean it's i'm not saying exotic in

06:53:19.380 the strictest sense of the word but compared to what i had known okay all right um and you

06:53:25.880 instantly more so than with any other man felt this way with him have you felt it since uh no

06:53:33.820 not instantly like that not like but i've had i've had clicks now what was the context of how

06:53:38.080 you met him uh we were working in the same place so was this something that developed over time or

06:53:43.440 was like when you started dating him? Oh, we were working in the same place for, for months and we

06:53:50.540 never spoke. We didn't like, we worked in the same place, but it was big. So the first time you met

06:53:54.060 him, uh, you felt, you felt that way, but it wasn't until months later you actually started

06:53:59.460 dating. Is that, um, I mean, I never really met him formally. So it was just like, we passed in

06:54:04.800 the hall kind of thing, but no, that first time you laid eyes on him, you felt it. Yes. Okay. But

06:54:10.200 It wasn't until a bit later that, so how did you guys, did you make the move?

06:54:15.100 Did he make the move?

06:54:16.840 Well, I think we just started talking because I had to help him with something for work.

06:54:20.820 So then we just chatted a little bit, and he said that he's felt some sort of connection to me since I first started working there.

06:54:29.040 And you said he was insane.

06:54:31.480 How so?

06:54:33.640 He's just a very unusual person, you know, and that's kind of what I liked about him to begin with.

06:54:38.980 He seemed different, you know.

06:54:40.200 um but then he was like abusive in many ways so yeah things went downhill

06:54:47.100 what's so funny about that well part of my uh my my confusion like i think love and bond and

06:55:02.360 connection is something that can grow and i don't often hear men being like i need the click i need

06:55:08.580 the chemistry i need the lightning uh i think men are in this way can oftentimes be a bit more

06:55:14.020 pragmatic when it comes to dating um it's often women who want to feel that that click thing you

06:55:21.400 want the movie moment the the magic moment and it's this sort of very i personally find it to

06:55:27.260 be a bit of a naive approach to dating um and not really a great foundation upon to to build

06:55:34.320 a solid and strong relationship chemistry chemistry isn't a good foundation well it depends what we

06:55:40.200 mean by chemistry so i mean have you ever had chemistry with any of these other men that you've

06:55:45.400 dated sure and what do we really mean by chemistry um you you were talking about this click this like

06:55:51.600 feeling that you just felt for this guy and that's going to be something that you're going

06:55:55.900 to chase and when men invariably uh let you down and disappoint you um because they lack

06:56:04.420 to produce that and elicit that feeling in you um but i guess what i found amusing while i was

06:56:13.040 sort of chuckling is that despite this this uh insane click that you felt for this man

06:56:21.100 you said he was abusive yes so clearly this click is not a particularly strong indicator of whether

06:56:29.080 a person will actually end up being good for you no i totally agree you have to be very careful

06:56:33.840 right but you so even though here's the guy who you felt the strongest thing forever

06:56:40.200 he abused you how so i mean physically and mentally uh sexually no

06:56:47.980 uh how would he mentally abuse you um just calling me names and you know all the classic

06:56:55.720 things uh and then he physically abused you too so he'd hit you yes like uh how so i don't really

06:57:02.820 want to go into that much but as you can imagine well i mean there's varying levels of physical

06:57:07.740 abuse so i mean like he would uh did you ever have to go to the hospital how about that okay

06:57:15.200 but he would leave marks on you um yes okay face no uh so he'd punch you in the body or

06:57:24.540 i don't why is that even relevant it's really not it gives context for i don't really think it does

06:57:32.460 okay well we don't have to revisit your past trauma but um i guess what i would point out

06:57:38.000 here is and how soon into the relationship did the abuse start um what was it maybe like six months

06:57:46.500 or nine months somewhere along there it was it was like we were in it we were living together

06:57:51.800 and everything so so he didn't put any hands on you until six to nine months in yeah what about

06:57:57.040 the verbal abuse did that start sooner um I would say so yeah I don't I don't remember the exact

06:58:02.720 timeline but that definitely came first yeah okay um and then uh

06:58:10.720 hmm and you stayed with him for another

06:58:17.360 nine months something like that yeah a year okay um

06:58:22.240 Hmm. Was he consistent?

06:58:29.240 Consistent in?

06:58:30.280 You said of the hundred men you've been on dates with in the past four years, your big complaint is consistency.

06:58:35.560 Okay, general consistency.

06:58:36.720 Was he consistent?

06:58:37.600 Yes, he was very much in the relationship. I guess too much so looking back on it. But yeah, it was all about me.

06:58:46.380 Was it ever on again, off again?

06:58:48.700 Yeah, I mean, I would say in that year and a half,

06:58:50.840 maybe the last, like, six months or so was on again, off again.

06:58:55.500 Who would end it?

06:58:57.340 I mean, I moved to a different country.

06:59:00.320 So we had already broken up, but I think that's really what, you know, ended it.

06:59:04.920 All right, so would you get back with him?

06:59:12.840 No, never.

06:59:14.540 When's the last time you spoke to him?

06:59:16.260 Years ago, three years ago.

06:59:17.720 ago. Uh, and this was in Ireland, right? Yes. But he's Polish. Yes. But like grew up in Ireland

06:59:25.540 or like moved? No, he moved as an adult. Okay. Um, did you ever go to the police? Yes. Was

06:59:34.840 he arrested? No. Uh, you went to the police for the physical abuse then? Okay. Uh, restraining

06:59:43.400 order no okay well perhaps chasing after this click thing the one instance where you felt the

06:59:57.380 click the strongest we can argue that this man was of all the men you've dated and i know that

07:00:03.960 he was the longest the longest relationship you've had um he was the worst for you yeah 0.93

07:00:10.940 now don't you think that that's revealing light bulb moment who gives a fuck about the click 0.71

07:00:21.320 clearly it's not a great indicator of anything and i i don't wait around for the click all the

07:00:28.480 time but you know i would like there to be some chemistry like i'm talking about i want to feel

07:00:33.080 really attracted to that person does it have to be this um fairy tale thing no but there has to

07:00:39.300 be something all right well i don't think i'm going to change your mind on this but um i do

07:00:48.960 hear you but i just think it is what it is attracted to this person what can't you just feel

07:00:53.760 like averagely attracted is that not enough not really do you feel averagely attracted to the

07:01:05.460 people you've been in relationships with i i highly doubt it you know you're really i mean

07:01:10.240 if you want me to be honest i can acknowledge that women who i've dated in the past there are

07:01:17.460 more attractive women than the women i've dated but you when you were with them you were really

07:01:23.620 into them i'm sure uh really into them um i think attraction can be more than just looks of course

07:01:33.740 right but um i mean i would be lying to say that there's obviously going to be women who are more

07:01:45.260 attractive than the woman you're currently dating but that doesn't mean i wasn't in love with my

07:01:50.700 previous girlfriends or any of that such a weird way of answering it though ask it again so you're

07:01:56.400 you're saying that you were still thinking about other women who are more attractive when you're

07:01:59.760 with the women you're with and you weren't focusing on how attracted you were to them

07:02:03.000 Because my question is just, weren't you really attracted to the women you were with?

07:02:06.020 No, I'm not saying that I was like pining over or thinking about or lusting about other women while I was with my girlfriend.

07:02:14.240 I was saying that it is conceivable much.

07:02:18.440 I mean, I suppose any person can do this, whether you're a man or a woman.

07:02:22.100 Like, you know what?

07:02:23.520 I really like this person.

07:02:25.840 We have a great connection.

07:02:27.960 I think that they're attractive.

07:02:29.200 but there are people who I could conceivably have a stronger connection with or be more

07:02:34.180 attracted to. Sure. You never know what else is out there. Right. So I don't think that's like

07:02:38.940 incompatible with being in a relationship. I agree.

07:02:45.460 Like, do you think like the guy who marries like the refrigerator looking Torda is like,

07:02:55.200 wow this is the most beautiful woman in the world i don't know what a torch that is it's a it's a 1.00

07:03:01.320 plump plump fat mexican woman like do you think he's like do you think it's impossible that this 1.00

07:03:09.380 guy and he looks at a woman like megan fox when she was 20 and he was like yeah my girl is just

07:03:16.760 as beautiful as megan fox at 20 no but why is he with her then i mean he's obviously attracted to 0.97

07:03:24.880 this because you gotta be if say say you're a five foot three fucking conquistador looking 1.00

07:03:32.860 motherfucker like you're a mexican five foot three mexican you ain't i i love mexicans i love 1.00

07:03:39.400 mexicans they're dope as fuck you're not getting megan fox sorry buddy i'm not getting megan fox 1.00

07:03:45.600 either sorry Brian okay I accept it so you got a date within your league is what I'm saying I feel 1.00

07:03:57.720 I am and that's what I'm saying but I don't think you are I'm trying my best I go on all the dates

07:04:03.580 hello oh my god oh my god okay well good luck I guess thank you um anyways I got I'll move it on

07:04:15.400 we'll finish up the notes um did we do the looks rating uh i'll give everyone the looks rating

07:04:21.920 line on it i don't even remember what you guys rated yourselves but um uh we should do you said

07:04:27.820 i gotta shave my beard for you to see the true yeah we gotta do makeup who's down to take off 1.00

07:04:33.400 their makeup see that's the other thing not only do women inherently inflate their looks just in 1.00

07:04:42.380 their their female brain they'll inflate their looks because they get sexual access to men 1.00

07:04:48.740 outside their league and then they wear makeup and then they're like oh uh they're going to 1.00

07:04:55.420 assess their looks based off of them using an artificial enhancer we're wearing makeup because

07:05:01.920 we're here but most women don't wear it daily well i don't i rarely ever wear oh you do every

07:05:07.800 day you get full face yeah well wait here's another um uh compounding factor or i don't know

07:05:16.820 if that's the right word not in it it's like just domino domino effect is that the right 0.98

07:05:24.160 when women wear makeup that increase artificially increases your level of this is actually something 0.93

07:05:31.480 i don't think i've actually argued before when women wear makeup it artificially increases their

07:05:36.580 level of attraction, therefore garnering attraction from men who are more attractive than them

07:05:41.780 because you're bolstering your physical attractiveness through the use of makeup.

07:05:45.600 So then when you start getting attention from men because of your makeup, uh, or at least

07:05:52.460 because of that incremental, uh, that, that incremental incremental increase, is that

07:05:58.000 redundant? Fuck it. I don't know. Fucking midnight now. Um, so then it just like, and then, okay, 1.00

07:06:04.900 you look at yourself and I'm wearing makeup and I'm more attractive and then guys are more

07:06:09.140 attracted to me when I wear makeup. So I'm more attractive. It's like, imagine, can I ask you guys

07:06:14.880 a question in the future? This will a hundred percent exist. Nano robots, uh, that can basically

07:06:22.480 teeny little, uh, led robots that can completely mask your face and completely change your

07:06:31.280 appearance so i could put brad pitt over me or i could put like young brad pitt or i could women 1.00

07:06:36.740 could do this too you could be fucking ugly as fuck as a woman and then the robots completely 1.00

07:06:41.580 cover your face and then you're a whole totally different person would this be 1.00

07:06:46.920 deceptive

07:06:50.920 yes yes that's makeup 100 not as strong of as an effect but that is makeup and that's

07:07:01.100 beards too because you're covering half your face tell you what i am willing but you know what as

07:07:07.020 as representative of the male and beard delegation we are willing to give up our beards entirely 0.98

07:07:14.140 if women give up all their 0.99

07:07:16.380 cosmetics. And we'll give up hats 1.00

07:07:18.480 too. As representative

07:07:20.120 as rep. So the bald guys

07:07:22.620 can't bald. Hatfish.

07:07:24.660 So okay. Hatfish.

07:07:26.920 Us men agree.

07:07:28.660 Us men agree to give up hats

07:07:30.200 and beards. But you guys have to give up

07:07:32.580 your cosmetics. Perfect.

07:07:34.800 Done. What's your problem? No problem.

07:07:37.000 No problem at all. You just don't like

07:07:38.460 when girls wear makeup. You prefer natural girls. 1.00

07:07:41.420 Because what's the problem?

07:07:42.620 yeah i guess it's just a form of expression like anything else you don't okay uh do you think

07:07:47.080 makeup looks you more makes you look more attractive i certainly prefer how i look with

07:07:50.420 it but you know no hands ever sent me back once you've seen me without the makeup

07:07:54.100 he said you say you always wear makeup though yes but of course sometimes there are that's part of

07:08:05.420 the deception though i feel like is you you um there's something and i i struggle to fully

07:08:14.080 articulate this there's something to that initial impression of you being with makeup that will

07:08:23.320 frame future um that i don't know um yeah but it's just like if you pick a profile

07:08:35.400 picture for some account you're going to pick the best picture of yourself we're all trying to put

07:08:39.740 ourselves out there you you're just a straight pimp on dating apps and you date you've done dated

07:08:45.860 100 dudes in the past four years does one photo let me ask you a question is one photo on your

07:08:52.800 dating app you without makeup no there are none catfish catfish he won't take the makeup off on

07:08:59.500 the podcast i'm gonna say if you were to take your makeup off we're talking one or two points

07:09:05.780 down in looks okay it's just one man's opinion um you look i'm not trying to i'm not saying this

07:09:16.380 to be mean i'm just i think i'm descriptively true you are emblematic of the problem when it

07:09:22.400 comes to dating you are you are just like exhibit a your exhibit a is you five percent of men are

07:09:33.040 attractive a hundred dates in the past four years the the one guy you were in a long-term relationship

07:09:39.160 that you had to click with was physically and emotionally abusive verbally abusive um you

07:09:46.120 you you wear the makeup and it bolsters your artificial attractiveness and so now you think

07:09:51.880 you're more attractive than you actually are and now you want to play in a league uh that's not

07:09:56.900 your league and you want to date men outside of your league and men aren't attractive right but

07:10:02.000 all the victoria's secret supermodels are all wearing makeup too yeah but they're and they're

07:10:05.720 all wearing nice clothes and whatever blah blah blah if you see them as scrunchie and attractive 0.57

07:10:10.540 they're going to be less attractive than what they are on the runway or whatever it is it's all

07:10:14.240 relative a man's going to look more attractive and you know some suit than he is a hoodie 1.00

07:10:19.120 clothing is a different argument but um i would argue that there are women who are like 0.58

07:10:25.080 seriously beautiful without any makeup sure and sometimes makeup can bolster it a little bit but 0.99

07:10:33.340 they're already so beautiful that whereas i think that women can employ makeup to the point

07:10:42.920 where not necessarily to the point i'm not saying it's like they're wearing so much makeup

07:10:48.360 but there's certainly women who will wear even, I don't want to say minimal, but who are wearing

07:10:56.640 as much makeup as you are. So I believe you're wearing powder on the face. You've got mascara,

07:11:03.380 you've got eye shadow, you've got fake lashes or no. Yeah. You do have fake lashes in. Um,

07:11:11.660 i don't know if you color in your eyebrows at all yes uh lipstick lipstick lipstick okay

07:11:18.040 full face of makeup right sure um i think that there will be men if you were to take that makeup

07:11:26.360 off that wouldn't date you but would based off of your makeup look would date you that's deceptive

07:11:33.900 right but there are men that i would potentially maybe date if i saw them you know presenting

07:11:38.700 themselves in the best way and then when they're on on the couch with a pizza box box on top of

07:11:42.900 their stomach i mean it's less attractive it's all relative yeah that's that's a bit different 0.52

07:11:46.900 than makeup though facial men don't really use the same means that women do to optimize facial 0.59

07:11:53.500 attractiveness like makeup that's their problem well it's women would not really tolerate uh

07:12:00.600 makeup usage in men broadly speaking they they would some women are okay with it many would find 1.00

07:12:07.760 it not masculine they'd be like what the fuck you're more of a chick than i am so the problem 0.99

07:12:14.220 is men can't wear makeup and then it's unfair no no don't get it twisted i'm very much against 0.99

07:12:20.680 normalizing makeup usage in men i would push back against that massively my position is not

07:12:27.280 oh poor men we can't use makeup it's no we definitely should not use makeup and maybe

07:12:33.300 women shouldn't also what about hair color oh yeah yeah because that's a and like there's a

07:12:39.820 lot of men that have fake hair now well and they don't die they put a fake thing on you know implants

07:12:46.200 yeah and they don't dye their hair either but we're supposed to dye ours right

07:12:49.920 it's just it's all in your own taste right everybody i'm just curious big labia beauty

07:12:57.500 is an eye of the question maybe that's the problem because i think look maybe it is i'm trying to i'm

07:13:02.400 trying to help you you know a lot of men they prefer the any maybe that's it you know i really

07:13:08.100 have nothing to say about maybe that's i really don't no comment all right um all right let me 0.97

07:13:14.240 finish up the show notes hopefully get this wrapped pretty soon uh all right whoo shit 0.87

07:13:21.780 starving give adam a chance just give adam a chance adam who just adam average adam 0.92

07:13:31.120 I have. I've given plenty of Adams a chance.

07:13:33.700 Give average Adam a chance.

07:13:34.920 It did not help me.

07:13:35.800 This girl, this girl. All right.

07:13:37.760 Okay, we got...

07:13:40.040 We talked about the master's degree.

07:13:45.120 You said you've been dropped off and ghosted at a restaurant.

07:13:48.280 Yes.

07:13:49.860 You have interesting, transparent conversations with a date who traveled three hours to have dinner with you.

07:13:54.780 um tell us the tell us the the story of the guy who went and picked you up and then

07:14:03.400 it was premature tell us that what do you mean it was premature oh come on i just gave a thousand

07:14:11.020 prompts it was premature okay so the guy that oh okay so my little dating story that i shared with

07:14:17.520 you i had been corresponding with somebody for a little bit and i believe it was on hinge actually

07:14:22.600 at the time and I had um told him several times like I wasn't interested in him because he wasn't

07:14:28.260 really my type but I'm like he kept coming you know they rematch with you so I'm like well maybe

07:14:33.100 this time whatever so I did and we spoke for a while he had my phone number um we exchanged

07:14:41.100 pictures clean pictures um spoke almost every single day and he lives very far away so we like

07:14:48.360 planned something in the future for him to come take me on a date whatever so he finally made a

07:14:55.040 date with me made reservations at a place near my house and picked me up and he was really excited

07:15:02.900 I'm so excited to meet you you know the usual whatever and gave me a hug and said you smell

07:15:08.420 really good whatever put me in the car the restaurant was not too far from me I mean I

07:15:13.840 could walk home from there and um he dropped me off and he said i'm gonna go park now and i'll be

07:15:20.080 right you know right in reservations under my name and um i just started getting this weird

07:15:27.340 feeling i'm sitting there because it didn't take that long to park um in about 10 minutes i got a

07:15:32.260 message saying that um i'm terribly sorry but i'm no longer interested yeah i was like what whatever

07:15:41.960 his last so he was younger than me they're always younger than me um and so that was not even an

07:15:47.060 issue and it's like I was very transparent about what I look like I don't really wear makeup

07:15:51.340 my body's the same you know there was no catfishing anything so it was really weird

07:15:57.220 and then um yeah so they went on Facebook are we dating the same guy yeah and I put his picture

07:16:04.160 up right away yeah I was in total shock I mean the waitress came over and she was like um are

07:16:09.400 you okay i was just like uh not really i don't even know what just happened it was like so weird

07:16:14.520 you should have went to the bar and found another one well well so he's a police officer and so what

07:16:18.980 one of my friends told me i should have done which i'm in hindsight i should have called the precinct

07:16:23.480 and said hey you know i forgot something in his car oh really oh let's do you have his number yeah

07:16:29.640 i tried but he like he left me at a restaurant you know i love that i love the revenge i so should

07:16:35.440 have done that but i didn't i was like i'm gonna move on whatever it just was so weird yeah so

07:16:40.280 yeah i don't have time for that negativity so i but i did go on to facebook and i had to and i

07:16:46.840 put his picture up and i said is anyone dating anyone and then like three four different people

07:16:51.100 chimed in oh he was so nice he's great he brought me flowers and they're like well maybe he thought

07:16:57.760 you catfished him or something like that and i put my picture up nobody really puts their picture

07:17:02.300 up i'm like i don't think i catfish it was like a nice picture of myself i don't think i have no

07:17:08.260 idea what i have no idea what happened but that was probably the weirdest type of thing for me

07:17:14.720 that i've gone through and um and i've gone on a lot of interesting dates you know like you have

07:17:23.000 and they're just you know i'm a one date wonder yeah maybe you had like a an anxiety issue or

07:17:31.300 something you know like the the whole thing was just too much for him i don't know maybe maybe

07:17:35.720 because i'm like a mature woman and i yeah you know it happens you know but there was like full

07:17:41.500 transparency i never lie about my age i never lie about anything it was just a weird it was very

07:17:46.880 interesting so yeah so that's my story so i was gone but i overheard most of it um so

07:17:52.640 like how long was he there so he just came to pick me up but i went in his car

07:18:00.780 gave me just like a hug

07:18:03.700 it was just very basic

07:18:05.120 it wasn't like oh my god it was like real quick

07:18:07.220 because we had a reservation

07:18:08.000 we went the restaurant was literally

07:18:11.300 like you know probably 10 minutes

07:18:13.420 away from me

07:18:14.080 so you were in the car with him

07:18:17.460 uh huh okay so 10 minutes in the car

07:18:19.460 did he park it

07:18:21.740 no he went to go he said

07:18:23.500 the reservation is under my name just go

07:18:25.520 inside whatever I'm going to go park the car

07:18:27.020 so I went in it's pretty normal

07:18:29.600 protocol right and so i went and sat down i gave him his name whatever and i just sat there

07:18:34.460 and i'm waiting and waiting and like five minutes go by 10 minutes go by i'm like this is a trip

07:18:40.240 and i just started getting that i have really good intuition just started getting this weird

07:18:45.420 feeling and that was when i got a text message from him oh okay i'm terrible i'm terribly sorry

07:18:50.200 but i'm no longer interested i'm like what okay so so yeah so you total it was like 10 15 minutes

07:18:59.420 yeah yeah and that's and i had been speaking to him for like a little while his ex-girlfriend

07:19:06.340 called back his ex-girlfriend called herself no okay so you claim you didn't catfish if he picked

07:19:12.660 her up right but no no we exchange pictures like all the time like yeah i'm gonna go work out now

07:19:17.900 whatever nothing nasty or anything like just normal like hey i'm doing this i'm doing that

07:19:21.820 just pictures would you put the filter on the pictures i never use a filter and i don't really

07:19:26.860 wear makeup and the the photos you sent how did you meet i met him on hinge i believe okay the

07:19:34.520 pictures you had on hinge i don't use filters on anything makeup i don't this is pictures of you

07:19:39.920 when you were younger no hell no no my pictures are all like now okay now keep in mind i'm gonna

07:19:47.160 i'm gonna go ahead and just be like okay it's not a catfish situation from his perspective right

07:19:53.500 um although even if you don't wear makeup and use filters

07:19:58.200 were the photos whole body full body both oh no i sent him pictures of i have pictures of me

07:20:05.720 how old was he full dress he um was probably around your age my age yeah did she did she

07:20:14.500 reveal this she says all of the guys she dates are younger men yeah yeah i tried to i tried to

07:20:21.320 date men my age just not working okay so i get it the cougar thing this is interesting no no it's

07:20:28.240 not a cougar thing so i'm not a i don't look for them they find me well hold on when you're on

07:20:33.840 hinge you can set your age range no but i don't look for men this is just this is not a hint it's

07:20:38.500 like everywhere yeah but most most women on like most 30 year old women wouldn't set their age

07:20:44.360 range to like 18 to 40 i usually do it from like probably 36 or 38 to like 60 or something 0.92

07:20:54.000 and then so what they do is they give you a few years that way or a few years that way i mean

07:20:58.720 okay you're 59 yeah i am and you set you want to date a 38 year old sure why not that's i click

07:21:06.120 better i click look i don't object to age gap relationships i'm not getting married but it's

07:21:10.640 okay. The, the, I, okay, fine. You're, uh, you're fine dating younger people. That's fine. Um,

07:21:16.840 going back to the, the date situation. Um,

07:21:22.260 okay. So a couple of things here, a 10 period window of time is enough time to potentially

07:21:32.620 figure out if this is like a vibe or not uh not what really wasn't here do you still have his

07:21:40.620 he drove like he drove like two hours to see me okay that wait that does make i'm an ellie yeah

07:21:47.280 the girlfriend texts him or call him there's no way all these things for him just to and you sent

07:21:54.340 him photos yeah yep i promise he knew your age and how you guys were texting for a couple weeks

07:22:01.140 or something for over a month i mean like yeah for for a good amount of time and he he had tried

07:22:05.780 to match with me several times okay this is getting a bit so he had tried to match with me

07:22:10.000 several several times several times and and i was like no i'm not really into what's his job i'm not

07:22:15.280 into police officers oh he's a cop he's a cop i'm not into that at all and you're okay but he was

07:22:19.920 you know i was like i'm like well maybe who know maybe i don't know so i was like maybe did you

07:22:24.680 guys ever facetimed um i think we might have actually once and we spoke on the phone also

07:22:31.360 do you think like your ex-husband would have somebody like no no not even no he doesn't even

07:22:36.960 live in the state like no no see what you're doing or whatever totally not like that okay

07:22:40.360 no no not even i know it's weird because we were like yeah no like no one could figure it out i'm

07:22:47.640 like this is the weirdest freaking thing and you asked him any what did he oh no no i called him 0.93

07:22:52.800 right away he didn't answer the phone of course not wait where does he live oh fuck i wish we did 0.98

07:22:59.300 this earlier where he is he's in um what's the um the place it's in orange county so he's like a 0.98

07:23:05.760 harupa valley hold on cop so what's next he's in he's in california yeah yeah okay

07:23:12.180 we're gonna fucking do this um now we got to check it beforehand honestly just met he might

07:23:20.340 know the podcast, send them a text message right now and be like, hi, I'm on the whatever podcast. 0.97

07:23:27.160 Remember that I'm just telling them about what happened. I'm not going to say your name.

07:23:31.840 The first thing you could just ask is, you could be like, hmm, what's the best framing for this?

07:23:37.860 I mean, one, we should get him on the phone, but if he's not open to that, I would say,

07:23:43.560 hey, just because I'm on the whatever podcast, I don't know if you've seen it. I'm not going

07:23:46.680 to share your name or anything will you tell me what was wrong and i think if you say that we'll

07:23:53.120 get the answer you think okay i have to search for for his thing that tiffany will bring you

07:23:58.680 your phone tiffany will bring you your phone and you can do it at the table everything um

07:24:03.000 and then if he's down to be called we'll call him otherwise um i'm trying to think what's that area

07:24:10.320 near here's laguna like inland from laguna alisa viejo no um well it doesn't that doesn't matter

07:24:17.180 the location or whatever but hold on you posted in on the the are we dating the same guy i think

07:24:24.700 those are kind of toxic i'm not gonna lie yeah i did and there were three people that knew exactly

07:24:30.900 who he was and there was another person chimed in that actually works with him she's like em she's

07:24:36.660 the emt and i was done and she's like well there's more to the story and i'm like really do tell

07:24:44.200 what did she tell no of course not there's no there's nothing more there was nothing else

07:24:49.000 happened maybe she was like nothing happened something going on with him i i mean i don't

07:24:53.900 know maybe it's the pink one yeah yeah it was weird and it was just like i mean i didn't even

07:25:01.640 need closure it was like whatever but i was just in shock because i've have never experienced that

07:25:06.160 Okay. So here, we're going to craft the text right now. Um, I have to find it though. I don't know if he's blocked you or something or whatever, but it was a while ago. So, okay. So you're going to text him. Hey, I'm on the whatever podcast right now. I'm not going to share your name, but I told the story of our date.

07:25:32.060 can you, for the podcast, can you tell me the reason or better yet, can we call you?

07:25:43.740 Okay, let me, uh, hold on. Cause we need it. We need the reason. Let him text. We need the reason.

07:25:50.300 Was that good? Yes. It was very good. Yes. Do you need to text? Give him the 300 IQ 300 IQ,

07:25:56.620 Or I could tell her to do it and she'll do it. 0.60

07:25:58.620 But, um, uh, Hmm.

07:26:02.560 The only thing I can propose and I, I, I have a duty from a, you're a guy.

07:26:07.540 Yeah.

07:26:07.900 Okay.

07:26:08.340 You have a slight tick and maybe that was it.

07:26:12.780 Yeah.

07:26:12.980 But I don't have it all.

07:26:14.140 It's not all the time.

07:26:14.940 It's, I don't sleep.

07:26:15.800 Like it's super minor.

07:26:16.700 Like it wouldn't bother me.

07:26:17.900 It's when I don't sleep.

07:26:18.620 No, no, no.

07:26:19.000 It's not like, but you know what I'm talking about?

07:26:20.380 Yeah.

07:26:20.560 But I, yeah, I do.

07:26:21.580 You do like a, I do.

07:26:23.540 Yeah.

07:26:24.260 Maybe it was that.

07:26:26.140 It's not all the time?

07:26:27.960 No, and I wasn't with him long enough for that to even notice.

07:26:31.240 But you've had the tick the entire show.

07:26:33.560 I know, but I wasn't with him long enough for him to be. 0.99

07:26:35.860 I'd still have sex with a woman who did that.

07:26:38.960 I mean, I can't help it sometimes. 0.97

07:26:41.040 I don't sleep, you know, menopause.

07:26:43.280 Like, I'd date a girl who has, what's the thing where they just curse or whatever?

07:26:47.640 Oh, the Tourette's. 0.96

07:26:49.560 Tourette's.

07:26:49.960 I could get, I would accept Tourette's.

07:26:51.900 I'm a very accommodating man.

07:26:53.760 Yeah. 1.00

07:26:54.000 So Tourette's, you know, she's calling me the N-word and shit, and she's not even a black woman. 1.00

07:26:59.180 Oh, my God. 1.00

07:27:00.260 I might enjoy that a little bit.

07:27:02.180 Oh, my God.

07:27:03.560 You know.

07:27:04.380 All right.

07:27:05.120 All right.

07:27:05.540 I have to find his.

07:27:06.840 All right.

07:27:07.100 Well, take your time.

07:27:08.120 We'll continue on.

07:27:09.060 We'll continue on with the notes.

07:27:11.420 Let's see here.

07:27:15.580 You think age gap related.

07:27:17.300 Here, I'll let you focus, and I'll come back to your notes. 0.91

07:27:19.440 We got Jenny.

07:27:20.720 Actually, Jenny.

07:27:22.120 Yeah.

07:27:22.360 Jenny. 1.00

07:27:23.000 Jenny.

07:27:23.340 Yeah. 1.00

07:27:23.480 Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, uh, stupid song. Um, not your name that nevermind. 1.00

07:27:29.980 Don't worry about it. She's South Korean. Yeah. Uh, 1.00

07:27:35.400 you almost died of three different cancers with a 16% chance to still be here 1.00

07:27:40.400 and you can no longer sit idly by and listen to the crap. 1.00

07:27:43.820 Those two Armenians said this. So you sent this in a while ago, I guess. 0.99

07:27:47.820 Yeah. Um, wait, so you had three different cancers. What were the cancers?

07:27:51.340 All at one time. I went in and they found out that everything that made me a female was, the way the doctor put it is that it was waging war on my body.

07:28:06.680 Okay, what are the...

07:28:08.200 So, I don't have the technical names for them, but it was like uterine cancer, it was like my fallopian tube, and partial labia.

07:28:21.080 labia cancer it was on the inside and on the outside yes yes my organization advocates

07:28:27.980 for labial cancer survivors okay um you said you were once a degenerate woman married to a

07:28:36.400 degenerate man your first husband after over a decade together claimed he was bipolar he had

07:28:41.120 been locked up in facilities for multiple days on multiple occasions keep that in mind

07:28:45.700 um and then we already talked about you meeting your current husband while out on a date with

07:28:52.000 your ex-husband wait hold on really quick i because i never finished this the quick timeline

07:28:55.800 here yes okay so you're dating your first husband for like 10 years or something right

07:29:01.100 16 altogether yeah yeah and then excuse me and then you um met while still with but towards the

07:29:11.140 end of the relationship with you met your current husband while you were out on a date with your

07:29:16.380 ex-husband um but then there was a period of time where you racked up like 40 bodies or something

07:29:21.560 like that not quite i my my body count might be okay well 30 um yeah okay the number doesn't

07:29:28.340 matter okay 30 to 40 you racked up 30 to 40 not in the time between just my husband and my ex-husband

07:29:35.940 Okay, you racked up 30 then.

07:29:37.200 It's like all together.

07:29:39.520 No, but you said prior to your husband, your body count was seven.

07:29:43.140 Yeah, let's say seven to eight.

07:29:45.700 Okay, so I'm not super focused, hyper focused on like the exact number.

07:29:49.440 It's more, let's just say it's 30, right?

07:29:51.360 Yes.

07:29:51.960 30.

07:29:52.380 You could say it was 10 before.

07:29:53.640 I racked up 20 with him.

07:29:55.320 And then I racked up more bodies with my husband.

07:30:00.960 Was he pimping you?

07:30:01.960 No, he was not pimping me.

07:30:04.140 Found it.

07:30:04.900 You found it?

07:30:05.700 okay uh can i just tell you i'll let you type it okay i'll let you type it ready are you a good

07:30:12.940 typer who's a fast typer can somebody do it me i can do it okay all right okay hi i am on the

07:30:23.120 whatever podcast right now i shared the story of our date i did not share any private information

07:30:35.200 or details about you i wanted to ask if or sorry hold on skip the i wanted to ask part

07:30:42.980 i i'm not going to share your name or anything like that but they wanted to know

07:30:50.420 the host wanted to know why you ended the date better yet

07:31:01.840 better yet

07:31:04.340 can the host

07:31:07.520 Brian call you

07:31:09.680 and you can explain it on the show

07:31:11.420 but we will accept

07:31:13.100 just the written

07:31:15.500 explanation best regards 0.85

07:31:17.920 it's a long ass tag 0.69

07:31:21.500 did you get it though 0.69

07:31:22.980 I'm on explanation

07:31:24.820 I know it was a little better

07:31:26.080 I said hey I'm on the whatever podcast right now

07:31:29.500 I shared the story of our day

07:31:30.800 i didn't share any private details about you i won't share your name but they wanted to know

07:31:34.900 why you ended the date better yet can the host brian call you and you can explain it on the show

07:31:39.100 wait hold on let me hide that from the one time ago

07:31:42.880 uh i'm on the whatever podcast right now wait can i read your text go for it i don't care yeah go for

07:31:49.960 it i'm terribly sorry i'm not interested anymore wow can i ask why you can have just told me before

07:31:57.540 bothered to get ready that's really unfair and i'm besides myself why would you do this as if i

07:32:02.660 catfished you wow you know these are just all your texts in a row um he didn't respond to you you know

07:32:07.860 all my friends warned me about dating a cop you seem different you knew my age i'm not fat and 0.99

07:32:12.980 ugly it's so disrespectful what you did you really should be ashamed of yourself to be honest it's 0.74

07:32:19.060 your loss you have no idea have a nice life peace sign okay hey i'm on the whatever podcast right 0.91

07:32:26.220 now i shared the story of our date i didn't share any private details about you i won't share your

07:32:29.760 name but they wanted to know why you ended the date better yet can the host brian call you and

07:32:35.020 you can explain it in the show but we will accept the written explanation i don't know about except

07:32:41.600 um okay i sent it it's like having your big brother i sent it okay wait should i send it

07:32:48.320 i feel like it needs to be edited that last part should i send a voice memo yes you send a voice

07:32:54.900 memo because yes from a guy yes from you all right here we go he'll respond wait i have to

07:33:01.400 tap and it's not just a press one time wait tap and hold to record yeah she probably didn't update

07:33:10.820 i just have a i'm just like a one press in it okay

07:33:13.620 i have to go into the thing and then go to audio wait i don't even know what to say i'm nervous

07:33:20.040 i'm so nervous you started all of this you know um hi it's brian from the whatever podcast

07:33:28.480 hey what's up uh this is brian from the whatever podcast so dude i'm i think i might be on your

07:33:37.940 side but i'm so intrigued by this entire story of you know the going on the date and then uh

07:33:44.800 you dipped look dude i've been catfished i get it i've been there we want to hear but she told

07:33:49.980 us one side. We want to hear your side. By the way, we haven't, you know, we haven't shared any

07:33:54.380 details. I know this is probably super fucking weird. It's like midnight right now. And you're

07:33:59.980 probably like arresting some fucking drug dealers and shit. Uh, by the way, um, sorry, this is like 0.99

07:34:06.720 a run on voice message I would send to my mom or actually no, my mom would send to me. But anyways,

07:34:12.100 dude, I'm on your side. I will defend you. If you're willing to do a call in, we can do a call

07:34:16.580 If you just want to send a text message, we're not going to say your name.

07:34:19.620 We're going to keep it, you know, private.

07:34:21.080 We just want the deets. 0.98

07:34:22.280 We want the details because this poor woman is, she's been suffering for years, wondering why. 1.00

07:34:29.140 Did she smell bad? 1.00

07:34:30.660 Did she smell bad? 0.94

07:34:32.860 Did she, you know, is it her tick? 0.98

07:34:36.700 Because I think she has a tick. 0.54

07:34:38.560 Did she, was she catfishing?

07:34:42.520 anyways um subscribe youtube.com slash whatever all right oh wait did it go all right i'm sending

07:34:52.260 it all right okay all right um did you press keep keep yeah because you know it goes underneath

07:35:01.420 there keep you sent it and then it goes keep okay oh i don't know i got it keep it sent i guess

07:35:07.460 it sends him yeah okay all right all right all right oh that's gonna be interesting just no

07:35:12.980 guys people in the chat are like just call him we can't bump up i feel like one it's a crime

07:35:18.040 technically because um uh what's it called uh why you're tapping you you can't record a yeah

07:35:27.260 you have to disclose you need to yeah in california you need permission you gotta disclose

07:35:31.500 okay so uh wait i had a question though

07:35:37.820 for me or were we finishing up i think we had wait okay what was it so how long was the time

07:35:44.460 period were you putting up the bodies before you land finally ended up with the your current husband

07:35:51.820 i would say about 12 years

07:35:53.660 there's a you met your now husband and which husband are you talking about brian 12 years

07:36:05.140 the second 12 years okay but you were asking did you respond no don't don't don't don't 0.99

07:36:10.820 don't we we got cameras oh yeah don't don't you can see it yeah we can see it in the fucking 0.93

07:36:17.240 don't don't yeah here keep your camera facing away from the cameras okay so now what brian 0.98

07:36:23.880 um okay your second husband what was the time between first husband and second husband oh what

07:36:34.780 was the time yes about four days four days wait until you did he respond not yet oh okay i'll

07:36:46.840 let you know all right like from the moment that just my husband my ex-husband and i had to blow up

07:36:54.060 to when i moved in with my husband was there any crossover was there any crossover with your second

07:37:00.560 husband okay so from the moment you broke up with your first husband to the point that you became

07:37:08.260 monogamous exclusive with your second uh second husband now husband what was that period of time

07:37:14.360 About four days.

07:37:15.960 So you're telling me.

07:37:16.920 Like a week.

07:37:18.280 Whoa, whoa, wait.

07:37:18.980 Hold on.

07:37:19.440 But you're telling me you done put up 30 bodies in a four-day period then?

07:37:23.940 No.

07:37:24.720 Wait, wait.

07:37:25.680 No, you.

07:37:26.280 Wait, wait.

07:37:26.780 Hold on.

07:37:27.380 You said after your first husband that you put up 30 bodies after you broke up with your first husband.

07:37:36.980 No, no, no.

07:37:38.020 Did she not say that?

07:37:38.880 No.

07:37:40.300 No.

07:37:40.600 She said that.

07:37:41.020 What I said was. 1.00

07:37:42.000 You said that shit. 1.00

07:37:42.780 From 19. 1.00

07:37:43.460 Jenny on the block. 1.00

07:37:46.020 You said that shit. 1.00

07:37:47.080 From 19 to 21, I racked up a good, no, it's probably more about 10, Brian. 1.00

07:37:53.900 First it's seven.

07:37:55.440 You're talking 30 plus years ago.

07:37:57.160 Okay, but fine, 10.

07:37:58.500 And then you met your husband. 0.82

07:37:59.360 And then I met my husband, and then we were together maybe two years, and that's when stuff started going D-Gen downhill really fast. 0.99

07:38:11.720 so while you were with your husband you're fucking other men and women yes and then after you in that 0.99

07:38:20.480 four day time period did you fuck any other men besides your current husband no okay that explains 1.00

07:38:26.080 everything i guess okay no you said once i got with him it was you had labia cancer yeah and 0.99

07:38:31.500 they took half of one side yes if you know someone with labia cancer call this number 1.00

07:38:41.400 It's fucked up, man. 1.00

07:38:42.580 It's super fucked up. 1.00

07:38:44.220 And it's its own surgery, too. 1.00

07:38:45.660 While you were in recovery, you were hitting the morphine button and laughing.

07:38:49.860 At you.

07:38:50.600 With these harlots.

07:38:52.240 You were scared to watch the crucible, Andrew, when you got home because you knew Andrew was going to make you laugh.

07:38:58.500 Because, I guess, surgery, you can't laugh.

07:39:00.620 It's bad.

07:39:01.120 No.

07:39:01.640 You went back for the second surgery where the doc gave you a radical hysterectomy.

07:39:06.760 Went into your legs to remove lymph nodes.

07:39:09.320 16% chance of making it and you made it I did I did and it's because of the whatever podcast

07:39:15.640 it's the recovery was that and the crucible and that's no joke yes hey can we get guys guys I

07:39:21.500 know we're joking around and stuff can we get some w's in the chat yes she had three different

07:39:27.240 cancers and she 16% chance of making it and she from my perspective I know this is probably isn't 0.98

07:39:34.660 consistent with the medical literature she had one of the worst forms of cancer yes there is

07:39:40.300 the labia cancer but i think that's the worst there is of course you do because they gotta 0.97

07:39:45.160 take the labia right of course fucked up yeah yes but 16 chance of making it and she's on the 0.99

07:39:51.880 whatever podcast today yeah let's go w's in chat for beating cancer fuck cancer let's go okay that's 0.99

07:39:59.380 my people in the chat though kelly one of the first people to send money in that's my girl 0.99

07:40:04.280 Oh, that's too late.

07:40:05.720 Andrew and the Crucible, and the Crucible Crusader, and Bojo Matzi, all of those are my people.

07:40:12.260 People, they're your people.

07:40:14.360 I love them people.

07:40:16.100 Well, okay, if it doesn't happen tonight.

07:40:17.920 But he's usually like out late.

07:40:19.500 You know, their hours are crazy, so you never know.

07:40:21.840 So you never know.

07:40:22.480 Okay, keep us posted.

07:40:23.940 We'll do a check-in, you know, hopefully before the end of the show.

07:40:27.460 But then if after the show you hear from him.

07:40:30.480 I'll let you know.

07:40:31.700 We'll do like an update, you know.

07:40:33.760 like i'll just if if he's willing to share you know okay uh we got heather chad well well

07:40:42.000 chad well yes uh okay so you did vh1s rock of love with brett michaels all three seasons

07:40:48.940 charm school with sharon osborne i love money i love money yes i probably saw that but i don't

07:40:56.320 remember yeah that was the co-ed it was all like the um the like rock of love i love new york

07:41:06.100 they threw all the all of the us wild ones down in mexico and we did challenges for a quarter

07:41:12.840 million dollars flavor i feel like the women who got brett michaels way better deal than the flavor

07:41:19.900 Flav

07:41:20.460 you know what I mean

07:41:23.560 well they all got nicknames too if you notice

07:41:25.760 and I think Ray J's

07:41:28.220 show as well they did nicknames

07:41:30.080 but we didn't have nicknames which was cool 1.00

07:41:31.620 I think one or two girls 0.99

07:41:34.140 kept their stage names

07:41:35.820 but we just had our regular names

07:41:37.940 but you're

07:41:39.420 single by choice

07:41:40.660 yes I'm peaceful by choice

07:41:44.100 just

07:41:44.580 was that voice note

07:41:48.980 is that is he gonna be is that like a voice note that would upset somebody no i'm just realizing i

07:41:55.440 sent a cop no he's a cop i feel like cops have good humor well wait yeah and he can literally

07:42:02.800 just look you up and be like he's legit this is his voice you know he can look you up immediately 0.97

07:42:08.460 and no i would feel i would be a bit upset you know what shit well if he is then he's not going 0.65

07:42:13.580 to respond right i'm on your side dude something happened and i don't think you're wrong for what 0.99

07:42:20.500 happened what i don't think it's look i don't know it sucks you know it sucks but he shouldn't 0.96

07:42:29.100 it was not it was not nice it was no it was rude it sucks every but he could have ghosted you at 0.98

07:42:36.780 home yeah i walked home from the restaurant yeah that's crazy oh they drove there together he drove 0.61

07:42:44.780 two out wait but the other thing is he drove two hours he drove like two yeah two hours because

07:42:49.200 where he worked you know that's what and he was in his 30s like around 37 if i'm a 30 year old

07:42:54.960 was he bald no no i just saw his photo he's hot as yeah ripped maybe he had he had um cold feet 0.99

07:43:04.060 he got cold feet he was like he was probably thinking i'm gonna go fuck this hottie hottie 1.00

07:43:11.640 milf he was probably thinking he was thinking with his head like not the right head though he 0.99

07:43:17.420 was thinking with that head down there and let me tell you what man sometimes a man you know you see

07:43:22.060 a woman and you're like man should i really do this you know it's like real crazy man i tell you 1.00

07:43:26.980 what man it's crazy man sometimes you think you want to fuck but you don't actually want to fuck 1.00

07:43:31.360 when you get down to business, you know what I mean? 1.00

07:43:34.300 He's Hispanic. 1.00

07:43:35.660 He doesn't talk like that. 1.00

07:43:37.080 No, no.

07:43:39.020 That's just me.

07:43:40.440 That's just me.

07:43:41.620 That's like very high desert.

07:43:44.200 High desert. 1.00

07:43:45.280 No, but I feel like shit. 1.00

07:43:48.360 Like if I'm driving two hours for some pussy, 1.00

07:43:52.800 you might as well get... 1.00

07:43:54.020 Were you, like, if he didn't do that, 1.00

07:43:56.840 would you have fucked? 0.99

07:43:57.880 No, I wasn't. 0.99

07:43:58.780 I had no intention.

07:43:59.980 How are you going to drive two hours 1.00

07:44:01.620 To not get pussy though 1.00

07:44:03.140 You know what I mean 0.99

07:44:03.860 Like chat 1.00

07:44:04.820 Are you driving two hours to not get pussy 1.00

07:44:07.740 I have had dates 1.00

07:44:09.760 With a lot of men

07:44:11.260 That have traveled from San Diego

07:44:13.200 That have traveled two plus hours

07:44:15.620 To meet me

07:44:17.660 So

07:44:18.020 And we went to like the most expensive restaurant

07:44:21.340 I got some crazy stories

07:44:23.320 Like really ridiculous stories

07:44:25.080 I am not

07:44:26.000 I mean even I'm shocked 1.00

07:44:28.920 20 minutes if pussy isn't on the table 1.00

07:44:30.940 I'm going home 1.00

07:44:32.160 I'm not going

07:44:34.620 oh my god

07:44:35.800 well one guy

07:44:37.020 there was a guy that came from San Diego

07:44:40.620 that came from San Diego

07:44:41.860 want me to tell you the story quickly

07:44:45.020 interesting

07:44:46.460 give us the quick version

07:44:47.780 it was like about two and a half hours

07:44:50.160 he drove

07:44:50.620 he's like some big baller from Philadelphia

07:44:52.820 divorced guy or whatever

07:44:54.760 like 46 years old

07:44:57.400 or something like that so we met at um at like a Ruth's Chris or something like one of these

07:45:02.180 higher end steakhouses he was a little late I was at the bar having my martini and then he came in

07:45:08.400 had another martini with me we sat down to eat and um and we were sitting at a booth so sitting

07:45:15.080 very close to me definitely not not really my staying a little bit short uh very flashy like

07:45:20.740 the glasses the Louis Vuitton all that kind of stuff so um we're I'm not into that the brands

07:45:26.640 so like we're talking and talking and talking about dating that's usually the first conversation

07:45:31.560 right oh how's dating going blah blah yeah so he starts telling me about these smoking hot chicks

07:45:38.920 that he met he goes yeah so I'm like so how you doing have you met people he goes yeah I met this

07:45:43.540 one smoking hot see when he told me smoking hot I knew it was all over like from that you know

07:45:49.920 come on a date with me when I'm like towering over you in my highest heels like I could squash you

07:45:57.240 This isn't as fun as the cop story.

07:45:59.260 Smoking hot.

07:46:00.580 I prefer the cop story.

07:46:02.920 It gets better.

07:46:04.180 So then he asks me, so do you normally date younger men?

07:46:09.640 He's like 46 or 47.

07:46:11.960 He's not that, like, dude, you have one foot in, you're not that young.

07:46:15.640 So we're sitting there, like, we're talking back and forth.

07:46:18.440 Yeah, and he says, so how about you?

07:46:21.280 I said, oh, you know, I go on dates.

07:46:22.760 Like, oh, what's the youngest?

07:46:24.720 I said, it's not really important, you know.

07:46:26.620 and he was dying to know so i said well if you really have to know i said i don't know i'm like

07:46:31.700 26 ish a couple years ago and um he's like 26 and he started getting you know men get they

07:46:39.820 fluff up like pigeons they their feathers they start you know getting all distant and i said

07:46:45.620 yeah and they um they send me pictures too he's like really kind of pictures i said you know like

07:46:51.940 pictures and he's like um so what do you mean pictures i said you know like pictures of their

07:46:59.080 i'm not going to say the word what i said to him you know of their body parts he's like really

07:47:04.860 how did like people that really happened so i could see him he was like i could leave right now

07:47:09.740 i said you know what that's cool you can leave if you want i can pay for my own dinner i don't need

07:47:16.480 to pay for my dinner so then i could see him reeling it back in his brain oh my god who the 0.77

07:47:21.780 hell cares then he's like okay babe whatever but the next night like you're you like you're telling

07:47:27.580 no but you're telling me about you're saying like oh getting naked so that he's like i thought that

07:47:32.060 would have turned him off and then he sends me a message um i want to see you again and next time

07:47:37.600 we're going to be naked in bed or something like that we're both going to be naked the cop story

07:47:41.420 is way better. No, but I'm saying it's like the same

07:47:43.500 stupid, but you had to be there. 0.99

07:47:46.160 Somebody says something weird 1.00

07:47:47.520 on a date. It was nastier.

07:47:49.320 What's going on in the chat over there?

07:47:51.000 What are they saying?

07:47:53.780 God, he knows.

07:47:56.500 Yeah, so...

07:47:57.360 Nothing yet, so...

07:47:59.380 It is peculiar.

07:48:01.280 Drove two hours, all the

07:48:03.060 details you shared,

07:48:04.880 ten minutes in the car,

07:48:07.020 and then changes his mind.

07:48:11.420 The question you have to ask yourself is, would a catfish admit that they catfished somebody?

07:48:16.800 Of course, the answer is no.

07:48:18.340 Now, you say you didn't.

07:48:20.000 It's possible maybe the pictures weren't.

07:48:22.280 You're welcome to look at the whole history of our talking, and you could see all the pictures that went back and forth.

07:48:27.660 And, yeah, there's no catfishing.

07:48:30.460 I've never catfished anybody.

07:48:31.680 Was he fit?

07:48:32.660 I believe you.

07:48:33.480 Fit?

07:48:34.240 Yes, he's ripped.

07:48:35.600 He's going to be shredded.

07:48:37.000 Without showing the camera, I'll take a look at the pictures.

07:48:39.320 Okay. 0.99

07:48:41.420 Damn, you got to be down bad, though. 1.00

07:48:44.160 Here. 1.00

07:48:47.020 That's one picture. 0.98

07:48:47.920 No fucking way. 0.99

07:48:49.100 Yes! 1.00

07:48:49.560 Is that not crazy?

07:48:51.440 Why are you surprised?

07:48:54.580 Are there more photos?

07:48:56.300 Yeah, there's more photos, I'm sure.

07:48:58.140 Okay, chat.

07:48:59.020 I'll describe.

07:49:02.100 Good looking guy.

07:49:03.800 Very lean.

07:49:05.980 I don't know if he might be on gear, but he's muscular.

07:49:11.420 Like, he's muscular.

07:49:13.140 Big.

07:49:14.440 He looks like, how tall was he?

07:49:16.200 Because we both work out, so we had that in common.

07:49:18.580 He is probably like, uh-huh, what?

07:49:21.660 No, we both work out, so we would talk about our workouts and stuff like that, you know.

07:49:25.240 He works out in a different way.

07:49:27.440 Well, he's a man.

07:49:28.120 I'm 59 years old.

07:49:29.340 It's a little different, you know.

07:49:31.300 Very different.

07:49:32.000 Right, but we both, yeah, when I go to the gym five days a week.

07:49:35.360 This guy has a six-pack, and he's a beefcake. 1.00

07:49:38.620 This is a fucking beefcake. 1.00

07:49:40.080 anyways yeah that's a good looking dude holy bro how old was he i believe he was like 30 1.00

07:49:47.340 he looks mid-30s yeah like he looks young he looks like young he does oh fuck man 0.99

07:49:52.700 oh i can show you all my that's a good he's a good looking beefcake holy fuck we are so cooked 1.00

07:50:01.040 when beefcake 37 year old beefcake cops are driving two hours you know what it might be 0.99

07:50:08.040 california i feel like was it was this um blm time oh fuck i should not have brought no it was um 0.96

07:50:15.200 because there was a lot of people were hating on cops uh you know back in 2020 2021 cops had to do 1.00

07:50:22.860 some crazy shit for pussy it was cops had to do some crazy shit to get pussy because last year 0.99

07:50:28.660 everybody hate on cops 2021 oh sorry i got it i got excited there i'm just saying he's he's a 1.00

07:50:35.700 fucking good-looking dude that's a beefcake 37 going for 59 58 year old at the time 1.00

07:50:42.820 driving two hours for some 59 year old mate not not even guaranteed pussy maybe 59 year old pussy 1.00

07:50:51.680 it's so over boys if that no this is actually 1.00

07:50:59.540 that guy look that guy's better looking than me he's ripped i'm chubby i'm fat i'm overweight 0.98

07:51:08.500 i hope he responds and he's like brian show the fucking pictures 0.98

07:51:13.520 he's a good looking he's a beefcake boys trust me take my word for it literally could be like 0.99

07:51:20.800 calvin klein model are you sure it was two hours drive yeah because he lives so you know where

07:51:26.120 harupa valley is i don't care where don't tell me where it is no just he drove to that area it's

07:51:32.080 about two hours away from where i live yeah where do you live that's like she's telling me about

07:51:37.980 cork i don't fucking know um okay so anyways really well it's close to riverside okay i know 0.71

07:51:45.780 riverside he drove two hours yeah we have 35 year old beefcake handsome looking dudes cop 0.99

07:51:57.720 so he's because it's me that's why driving two hours to maybe maybe get some 59 year old pussy 1.00

07:52:07.980 how the great have fallen how the mighty have fallen damn men are down bad like 1.00

07:52:17.180 i don't know if i'm just built different and look 0.99

07:52:23.560 there's some women i've had sex with that i regret 1.00

07:52:32.200 i have never driven two hours to maybe get some 50s or i spit some 50 year old pussy 1.00

07:52:40.780 have you ever have you ever been with and i'm not as good looking as that guy with a 50 year old 0.99

07:52:46.060 woman i've it's a yes or no exactly so there you go i'm missing out on the 50 that's all i need to

07:52:55.880 i look when i was 32 i did date a really hot 43 year old wajen

07:53:04.360 she was she was she was good let me tell you no kids either no kids either you know so she

07:53:13.480 doesn't have that you know the the um she she uh you got you get certain stressors when you have 0.96

07:53:20.500 kids you know causes some wrinkles and shit so she not only 40 43 right but if you don't have kids 0.61

07:53:27.900 in your 43 that's like 39 that's like 49 39 excuse me look i'm just saying 1.00

07:53:36.200 there's been once or twice i've had sex with a chubby woman i'll admit it 0.95

07:53:43.400 a bit chubby i ain't talking obese i ain't never been with no obese woman 1.00

07:53:47.480 but once or twice i did fuck like a girl who's a bit thicker you know a little big not thick i 1.00

07:53:53.020 guess you could say chubby right and sometimes uh a single tear comes out my eye when i think about 0.97

07:53:59.260 that i can't but i have never been ripped because there was a point where i was in good i was

07:54:07.140 not as big as that guy but i was in good shape you know six pack abs right but leaner leaner he was

07:54:14.520 he was a beefcake 1.00

07:54:15.640 never drove two hours for some 59 year old pussy 1.00

07:54:21.100 that's my type so I usually 1.00

07:54:22.640 go out with guys that have that look

07:54:24.440 you know body type

07:54:26.060 this I wow

07:54:30.160 I know shocking huh

07:54:31.960 I'm an interesting

07:54:34.880 person though so you don't really know me

07:54:36.900 so it's hard for you to

07:54:38.540 gauge

07:54:39.120 I'm a pretty spectacular human being

07:54:42.620 yeah

07:54:43.300 You're like surprised

07:54:45.300 It's not always about age

07:54:47.100 You know

07:54:47.480 I know 0.97

07:54:50.520 And you get a lot of these young bucks 0.85

07:54:55.260 Yeah mostly young

07:54:56.440 You get a lot of these young bucks on the dating apps 0.98

07:54:59.420 You said it's Hinge 1.00

07:55:00.400 When I was on Hinge

07:55:02.260 I mean just in general 0.84

07:55:04.680 Women are attracted to me 0.79

07:55:05.980 In life in general 0.99

07:55:08.140 But for now

07:55:10.060 This wild buck has to roam free

07:55:11.980 or he will die or he will die or he will die wow that is um

07:55:21.220 i'm actually at a loss for words i'm at a loss for words if you saw my album that i have you 1.00

07:55:30.980 would really be at a loss for words are are cougar or older women really just able to fuck 0.90

07:55:40.320 30 year old dudes is that is yes yeah actually yeah it's a because i worry i worry when i'm in 0.99

07:55:47.180 my late 50s that i might struggle to fuck women in their 30s no you'll just have to spend more 0.99

07:55:55.620 like you'll have to spoil the girls more the older you get the more you got to just spoil 0.99

07:55:59.920 if you want like a 20 something but do you guys have to spoil the 30 year olds not not really 0.99

07:56:04.300 no they take me out no they take me out shit man no see they take care of me see this is 0.99

07:56:10.560 this is one of the black pills this is one of the black pills that men have to accept we think that 1.00

07:56:17.540 women hit the wall thank you we think that okay once a while like uh oh she used to do porn her

07:56:25.100 life is over you have to understand yet women especially good-looking women i don't know why 1.00

07:56:33.080 said that but women land on their feet they're like fucking cats women are like cats they could 1.00

07:56:39.920 just be fucking heroin addicts and then three years later they're married to some nice little 1.00

07:56:46.000 simpy guy and they and dudes don't want to fuck like y'all really privileged like i'm just thinking 1.00

07:56:53.580 like it's gonna be like i'm gonna have to trick at 59 to get some 30 year old pussy you just get 1.00

07:57:01.960 beefcake 30 you just get it you just get it left and right back to back female privilege 1.00

07:57:07.440 natalia says female privilege it's true yeah natalia where's you know what natalia

07:57:13.460 show me i need i need some perks here i'll know where i'm going with that whatever okay um okay

07:57:20.820 um where was i let me finish up the notes uh you're single by choice heather why is that

07:57:28.760 Well, I just don't like the titles anymore.

07:57:32.840 Like boyfriend, like I'll never have a boyfriend again.

07:57:34.860 How long have you been celibate?

07:57:35.960 Boyfriend, girlfriend.

07:57:36.500 Oh.

07:57:37.280 So you're saying if you and me, we dated, I wouldn't be your boyfriend?

07:57:40.680 No.

07:57:41.620 Boyfriends are for high school and college.

07:57:44.940 You're either a partner, you're either single or married, or you're a partner towards marriage.

07:57:50.220 Okay.

07:57:50.780 That's just my opinion.

07:57:52.760 Right.

07:57:53.860 Yeah.

07:57:54.300 Now, let's talk about more of these age gap relationships for you.

07:57:57.680 Okay.

07:57:57.960 you're very versed in them as you write because since you've been single

07:58:02.680 what's what's the youngest guy you've dated 25 and that's not when you were 25 that's now

07:58:14.840 basically like that's like recently yeah within the last couple of years yeah so okay say when

07:58:19.840 so you're 59 when you were 55 say you were dating a 25 year old yeah when i was 55 was around the

07:58:28.920 time i got divorced well don't let's not so i wasn't dating no you understand what i'm getting

07:58:33.480 at here i was i mean yeah i was dating well it's 56 57 okay whatever yeah it's all the same it's

07:58:38.500 okay you were dating 50 you were dating how long were you seeing the 25 year old no i just went

07:58:44.020 on a date with him i wasn't dating i wasn't like what's the youngest guy you had sex with then 0.99

07:58:49.380 25 so it was or that was a different 25 year old yeah damn bro sometimes it's even hard as a 37 1.00

07:59:00.140 year old trying to fuck a 25 year old and we got this is bullshit this is some female privilege 1.00

07:59:05.200 bullshit sometimes you gotta hustle a little bit as a guy in mid late 30s trying to fuck a mid 1.00

07:59:12.220 20s sometimes you know and here she is just fucking 57 59 just 25 yeah 25 you go younger 1.00

07:59:21.740 right you could get younger if you want oh easy i have gone out with younger but there was no 0.98

07:59:28.620 intimacy there was no knowledge no there was no intimacy you know what but we did we went out a

07:59:34.320 lot we just became really it was like a herald and mod thing was like we became really really good 0.54

07:59:38.560 friends um but there was no intimacy the problem is younger men like that they kind of fall for you

07:59:45.160 and then it's it's kind of you know you don't want to let them dance it's a us men are the real 0.98

07:59:50.020 romantics we'll fall in love bullshit with a post-menopausal woman we will fall in love with 1.00

07:59:57.480 a woman but it doesn't have anything to do with your testosterone she ain't got no eggs anymore 1.00

08:00:02.200 We'll fall in love with a woman who ain't got eggs, but like a younger woman who's dating 1.00

08:00:08.000 an older man, she wants that fucker's money. 1.00

08:00:11.740 She wants perks and money. 1.00

08:00:15.580 We're the real romantics.

08:00:17.300 We are so romantic.

08:00:20.300 Some of you are.

08:00:22.100 Some of you are.

08:00:25.020 And they need that. 1.00

08:00:26.100 Women are like cats. 1.00

08:00:27.460 They land on their feet. 1.00

08:00:28.880 Yeah, that's a true story. 1.00

08:00:30.120 Women land on their feet. 1.00

08:00:31.260 we grow they hit the wall but they still they just it's always easy for them a 50 a 59 year old 1.00

08:00:40.860 59 year old woman she has more sexual options than a than the chat than that beefcake you 1.00

08:00:53.100 showed me probably more guys want to fuck you than girls want to fuck beef mr beefcake 1.00

08:01:00.480 It's possible. 1.00

08:01:01.320 Police.

08:01:02.340 Now, is he, what, is he, he's like a city police or what?

08:01:09.880 Is he a state trooper?

08:01:11.560 No.

08:01:12.140 Highway patrol?

08:01:13.820 I think he might.

08:01:14.520 I'm just curious.

08:01:15.240 I think he might be a highway patrol or a sheriff, actually.

08:01:19.140 Oh, sheriff.

08:01:20.100 Okay, county.

08:01:20.960 He's for the county.

08:01:22.220 I'm trying to remember his name anymore.

08:01:25.020 Let's see here.

08:01:26.280 Wait, he tried to match with you a few times, finally caved, wasn't your type,

08:01:29.500 ended up being very nice through text he was very respectful very that's why i entertained

08:01:35.320 going out with him otherwise i would not have for sure but he was very nice he was actually

08:01:40.300 really respectful through the whole it wasn't he wasn't rude he wasn't okay he wasn't like rude

08:01:46.240 sexually or like there no nothing no no he was very wait oh the reason why i said it's not such

08:01:52.460 a bad thing is it obviously is going to sting because it is pretty blunt and you might say

08:01:59.420 yeah just do just have dinner with me and spend one hour on the other on the flip side

08:02:06.560 saved you a bit of time i think maybe the rude thing was he drove you it could have been like

08:02:13.140 maybe maybe he could have been like hey i'm gonna get you an uber no he could have just like came to

08:02:18.480 my house and made the decision right there but he was like oh you smell really good he was like

08:02:23.540 liked what i was wearing i was all tan it was summertime you know what i don't know i don't

08:02:28.040 know I don't I don't I don't know you know what but haven't y'all been in situations haven't y'all

08:02:34.200 been in situations where like you were feeling the guy and then it changed yes but I would never

08:02:41.080 I would never leave someone like that that's so freaking like you could have sat there with me

08:02:45.440 and like had a glass of wine we didn't have to have a full-on blown four-course dinner it's not 0.97

08:02:49.660 even I don't give a shit about that I think about that but like you could have been respectful sat

08:02:54.600 there had a glass of wine with me and talked and and and just and then after that and then after 0.99

08:02:58.900 that said you know what i'm not really feeling it or whatever like have some fucking class 0.96

08:03:02.800 you know what i mean i'm gonna agree rick and rude at that point just take an hour do the dinner 0.98

08:03:10.820 that's the i'm gonna agree just do the dinner just suck it up even if it's yeah 0.57

08:03:15.600 conversation exactly from there it's the worst case scenario you don't have to see them again

08:03:22.940 right yeah easy peasy just respect that's all so whatever it was just weird because it was so

08:03:29.620 opposite of how he but hold on presented himself if i was on the sale say i met up with a girl

08:03:34.760 and then you know what though i'm a bit on the fence with it because

08:03:39.040 he wasn't like you might say what he did was rude but he wasn't he he texted you back and he said

08:03:47.720 i'm just not feeling it or whatever which is fine but you don't leave someone at a restaurant

08:03:52.560 want like you left me there i think the way he went about it was a bit whatever but i i actually

08:03:58.560 think okay do i want to like spend two hours trying to charm this girl who's like clearly

08:04:05.500 not into me or like for clearly out of his league from the perspective of she's not into me so 0.88

08:04:13.020 from my perspective would i prefer her to like i try to fucking charm her for two hours or like 0.77

08:04:21.220 she just tells me at the like she she stays for 10 minutes say we meet for the it's a kind of 1.00

08:04:27.260 different details stay for 10 minutes and then she's like uh you know what um the phone no we 0.99

08:04:34.300 have a fucking scary ass alien bug again fuck what the oh it's just a bee it's a what it's a 0.99

08:04:43.140 bee that's a big fucking bee holy shit i'm highly allergic to be don't worry i'll protect you it 1.00

08:04:48.760 will kill me you're fine i think um tiffany kill the bee do you know don't kill it oh she's 1.00

08:04:55.320 allergic i'll get it outside we need bees okay well then you better okay can you grab a cup 0.99

08:05:00.540 like an empty cup go be whisperer and get on that here and then if you need a piece of paper

08:05:07.060 i have one to do the little trick-a-roo okay i don't trust where was i oh no i was saying that

08:05:13.140 I would prefer 0.95

08:05:15.840 for the woman... Somebody telling you the truth from the get-go? 1.00

08:05:18.660 Yeah, like... I have stuck out

08:05:20.000 many, many dates. Just be careful of the tripod

08:05:21.740 leg there. And I wasn't really into them. And I'm like, oh, just chill.

08:05:24.120 Oh, do you see it?

08:05:25.020 Uh-huh. Boop!

08:05:27.780 Oh, you got it? Wait, there's a bunch.

08:05:29.600 There's the ramble on there. You know what? Just leave it.

08:05:32.220 Just leave it. Don't worry about it. Watch out behind

08:05:34.060 you, though. Watch out behind you. There's the tripod leg.

08:05:36.880 I would honestly...

08:05:38.080 Yeah, I'd rather... I'd rather have my time saved

08:05:41.940 and um he took my glass just ignore it ignore it ignore it don't worry i can't see it anybody 1.00

08:05:46.860 brown that makes okay okay okay just stop stop stop uh i would rather a woman just be like you 0.80

08:05:53.060 know what um maybe she could do something a woman could be like oh hey i gotta go or i don't know 0.97

08:06:00.700 fuck or right i would i rather her just be like hey listen it was really nice meeting you but i 0.99

08:06:06.080 know what are they gonna say you're ugly no they don't have to they don't have to like that's the 0.99

08:06:11.160 here's everything no no they don't have to be like here's everything that's wrong with you

08:06:14.900 they could they could do a rejection in like a let you down easy sort of way where it's just like

08:06:21.060 hey listen um i appreciate you taking the time to meet me but i'm just i'm not sure if it's like a

08:06:27.980 good connection and i just i'd rather save your time i hope you have a good night i honestly think

08:06:35.340 if i were to do that to a woman i'd be like maybe the girl if you really want to be a g

08:06:40.760 be like here i'll get i got the check 1.00

08:06:45.020 but um versus wasting two hours on a girl that already knows she doesn't like me 0.82

08:06:54.280 oh yeah yeah just fucking honestly for me but i'm weird just tell me i'd rather just 0.64

08:06:59.220 it might be more brutal to get that kind of rejection but just uh tell me okay 0.88

08:07:03.460 well karma you believe in astrology i do

08:07:08.220 that's the problem that's why he ghosted you no we didn't talk about astrology but i do believe in

08:07:15.640 it okay uh we're going to trees it's complicated you but you said didn't you say you were in a

08:07:23.740 relationship yeah you wrote it's complicated i was being petty because we're logging to each

08:07:29.780 other social media so you cheated on him no I didn't cheat on him I just I thought it was I was

08:07:36.580 being petty I wanted him to see that so you're together yeah okay uh there's not other guys in

08:07:44.160 the picture no you said weird experience dating a white man yes well what tells the story I

08:07:51.780 explained it earlier so he was a cool white guy you know he you know he owned a valet company you 0.52

08:07:59.160 know he was cool we dated after uh we dated for a few weeks and we end up we end up having sex

08:08:06.500 and i feel like you know i'm saying the cat was too good and you know i don't think that he 1.00

08:08:13.040 was used to dating like black women and you know we we fuck different you do yes black women fuck 1.00

08:08:21.640 different yes okay you see how we dance in comparison to white women we fuck like that 1.00

08:08:29.440 so the sex is different so i've had sex with um a couple black women what what there's different 1.00

08:08:39.800 types of black women you're right i fuck was she from santa barbara i fuck a bougie black woman 1.00

08:08:49.460 you're talking about are you you're talking about like hood rats and shit no because i'm not a hood 1.00

08:08:55.140 rat no i'm not saying you're hood i'm just saying like that you got you got like the atlanta black 1.00

08:09:00.660 women they fuck a certain way you got the st louis black women they fuck a certain way and then you 1.00

08:09:06.000 got like the la bitches like the compton bitches you know what i'm saying yeah a lot i would imagine 1.00

08:09:11.700 that the woman the black woman that you would date probably doesn't even want to be black in 1.00

08:09:15.840 the first place that's probably true so a lot of them asked me to do race play which i'm not 0.91

08:09:20.180 really comfortable with yeah that's crazy yeah did you do it of course not yes you did i did not do 0.99

08:09:26.780 it i would never do that to a black queen a black queen i would never do that shit no i don't know 0.99

08:09:34.660 uh i don't know i think i've only maybe been with like two or three dated or just six 1.00

08:09:42.080 um short term just sex i've never yeah sure well it was maybe two or three four times or whatever

08:09:50.480 never had a relationship with a black woman though but were you dating like 1.00

08:09:56.680 was it just pussy the same same pussy yeah they didn't they didn't want to be black they probably 1.00

08:10:02.480 just i don't know i i couldn't imagine you dating like i don't know i don't know we'll see we have 1.00

08:10:08.680 to do you like a dating show or something i don't know but listen so after we had sex he just he

08:10:14.960 just became so crazy was like texting me like every hour and just oh i'm thinking about you

08:10:20.160 and oh i'm just so super he kept saying i'm so super right now and i'm like what does that mean

08:10:25.600 and he would just like he i'm so my god i just can't get you off my mind and then like if i if

08:10:30.920 i couldn't like text him back he would just like so what's going on are you i'm just like what the

08:10:36.000 hell like you i put it on you huh like i don't get it and it just scared me because i did i thought 1.00

08:10:41.960 he was gonna like stalk me and kill me you know who fucks different quiet bitches yeah because 1.00

08:10:49.720 listen they come out of their shell in the bedroom like no no but uh like uh like uh a uh 1.00

08:10:56.260 shy

08:10:59.480 biology

08:11:01.840 student.

08:11:05.920 You know, like in college. 1.00

08:11:07.640 She's like, fucking glasses. 1.00

08:11:10.700 Shy. 1.00

08:11:13.020 They fuck different. 1.00

08:11:15.020 Okay. 1.00

08:11:15.260 All right.

08:11:17.300 Anyways, I'm just saying. 1.00

08:11:19.720 The shy women are the ones. 1.00

08:11:21.060 The quiet ones. 1.00

08:11:22.460 The loud women are. 1.00

08:11:27.180 The quiet ones you got to watch out for. 1.00

08:11:30.200 Okay.

08:11:31.800 All right.

08:11:32.740 Let's see what else. 1.00

08:11:34.240 Your jealous best friend topped your man off and stole the car he bought you. 0.99

08:11:40.220 You were out with a guy.

08:11:41.700 You were dating.

08:11:42.340 Your best friend was at the same venue.

08:11:43.960 She set you up to get the car stolen.

08:11:46.460 He had just bought you while you were out because she was jealous.

08:11:49.940 So you got robbed.

08:11:52.120 Pretty much.

08:11:53.380 You got GTA'd.

08:11:55.060 I got GTA'd.

08:11:56.180 Grand Theft Auto, they pulled you out of the car?

08:12:01.200 No, no, no.

08:12:01.840 So we were at a nightclub.

08:12:06.260 So the guy I was dating, he was pretty well-known.

08:12:09.780 You could say he was a celebrity.

08:12:11.960 So my best friend at the time, she, I don't know, like, so I've never been a user.

08:12:20.180 I've never been a gold digger.

08:12:21.420 I've always had my own, so I didn't date for money.

08:12:24.600 So she figured I was dating this guy

08:12:26.760 Like why you don't ask him for this

08:12:28.140 Why you ask him for that 1.00

08:12:28.800 I'm like shit 1.00

08:12:29.320 I just let him do what he wants to do 1.00

08:12:31.160 You know what I'm saying 1.00

08:12:31.660 Like I'm not going to ask him for shit 0.99

08:12:32.980 And so like she started going behind my back 1.00

08:12:37.140 And like asking him for shit 0.99

08:12:38.520 You know because she would like ask me for things 1.00

08:12:41.060 From him for her

08:12:41.880 And I wouldn't do it

08:12:42.760 So she started like 0.94

08:12:44.740 Screenshot texts

08:12:46.700 Because at the time

08:12:48.080 Like I was talking to other men

08:12:49.700 You know he was talking to other men

08:12:51.300 We weren't like super exclusive

08:12:52.980 too, because I just didn't really trust him like that, but she knew that, so she kind of, like,

08:12:57.180 was trying to sabotage our relationship, so, you know, she was, like, going behind her back,

08:13:02.980 talking to him, feeding him information, and then, so we went out, he was shooting music video,

08:13:09.900 I set my purse and my keys in the booth, because this was a place that we frequented, we knew the

08:13:14.520 owners, we knew the staff, I was cool to set my shit in the booth, so we went to go shoot the music

08:13:19.300 video you know i come back i'm not really even checking for my purse because i never had to do 0.58

08:13:23.900 that so at the end of the night i'm ready to go i can't find um can't find my purse can't find my 0.59

08:13:30.880 keys so she's helping she she's not even helping me look for my shit my other friend that i was 0.97

08:13:37.340 there was helping me look for my shit she's still there the club is closed she's like just watching 0.98

08:13:42.120 me and so oddly enough me and the guy i was dating at the time we were kind of at odds but it was 0.86

08:13:48.740 because of stuff that he was telling her but she felt some type of way because he was like hey i

08:13:53.240 still want you to come i want you to support me i want you to be in my video and we'll talk later

08:13:57.600 so i feel like she was more so just trying to watch our interaction because she was like surprised

08:14:03.120 that he was still like wait so she was fucking your boyfriend yeah he's he's yeah he ended up 0.90

08:14:09.200 telling me like later well he said she gave him some head so she um i guess she felt some type 0.98

08:14:15.160 boy because she thought she sabotaged us.

08:14:17.600 So who's the one who stole the car?

08:14:19.120 My best friend. The girl?

08:14:20.900 Oh, the girl stole the car. Yeah, he bought me the car.

08:14:23.920 Okay.

08:14:24.720 So he just bought me the car, yeah.

08:14:26.940 And he's now in jail for murder.

08:14:29.040 Yes. Who did he murder?

08:14:34.380 Allegedly his

08:14:35.180 nephew.

08:14:37.780 Wait, did he get convicted

08:14:39.040 or he's pending trial?

08:14:40.860 No, he got convicted.

08:14:43.160 Well, so it's not allegedly then.

08:14:44.620 Well, I mean.

08:14:46.800 Well, I got maybe innocent, maybe falsely convicted.

08:14:51.160 Well, yeah, but she was watching us the whole night.

08:14:54.600 Wait, he killed his nephew or what was it?

08:14:56.920 It was like a murder for hire, allegedly.

08:15:01.980 You put the hit out?

08:15:03.400 No, I didn't.

08:15:04.200 I didn't have a reason to.

08:15:05.240 I wasn't around when I was.

08:15:06.180 Wait, who did he put?

08:15:09.900 Allegedly hired someone to kill his nephew.

08:15:12.820 Oh, okay, so he didn't do it.

08:15:15.280 He allegedly hired someone else to do it.

08:15:18.620 That's what they say.

08:15:19.340 Nephew?

08:15:20.180 His nephew.

08:15:20.820 So he's a kinslayer.

08:15:23.060 Did the murder happen?

08:15:25.820 The murder happened.

08:15:26.740 So it wasn't attempted murder for hire.

08:15:28.960 It was murder for hire.

08:15:31.620 How much does that cost?

08:15:34.040 I don't know.

08:15:34.620 I don't do that type of thing.

08:15:36.540 There's a song by...

08:15:38.620 I don't know if it's Eminem.

08:15:42.300 i know some guys who would do that for a blunt or two it can be cheap you just get a crackhead 0.94

08:15:52.860 to do it just get a crackhead yeah damn i gotta up my security okay um uh let's see dating other 0.98

08:16:01.040 races cosmetic surgery we kind of talked about well the dating other races cosmetic surgery 0.98

08:16:05.420 so you got lipo bbl anything else just just the bbl were you already um

08:16:12.540 packing yes why the bbl then so you needed to pack more well i did this what was this like

08:16:21.220 2020 right so i've always had like my hips like these are my hips i've always had coke bottle

08:16:26.360 shape could you stand up just so people can see the and then uh yeah and so act

08:16:35.180 people that know me I've always had a nice shape so what happened was so and the relationship I was

08:16:41.860 in previous to the one I'm in now I was with him for about four and a half years and um it was like

08:16:47.240 a very toxic relationship no abuse or anything like that because I don't play like that but um

08:16:52.380 I gained weight so I had like a pudge and so yeah I had a fupa and so like women when we gain weight 1.00

08:17:02.020 like um hormonal imbalance like it that's where it goes and it's hard to get rid of if you're like 0.98

08:17:06.580 going through like you know just you're emotional and stuff like that so I wanted to do lipo so

08:17:13.300 back then like I just I feel like it was lack of knowledge at the time because that surgery was

08:17:18.040 trending so I feel like the doctor didn't really listen to what I wanted so all I really needed I

08:17:24.680 probably if I knew then what I knew now I probably would have just did lipo 360 because I didn't need 0.99

08:17:29.020 no more ass and the thing is this motherfucker keep growing so when i gain weight that's where 0.99

08:17:35.280 it goes that's where it goes so yeah for how long were you not allowed to sit what is that like 1.00

08:17:48.240 four weeks so you had to like lay down you sleep on your tummy you gotta sleep you can't sleep on 1.00

08:17:55.860 your back i slept on four weeks i slept on my side look most women can't sleep on their side 1.00

08:18:02.000 because a lot of women get fat added to the hips but see i i was able to because i had big hips so 1.00

08:18:07.560 i slept on my side but why uh you were already you know you already were packing 0.97

08:18:14.260 why more so like i said lack of knowledge so they were they were basically marketing

08:18:25.540 or selling or doing those procedures as like a total package so a lot of people who got that

08:18:30.480 procedure that year didn't know that okay you could just do lipo they were just they would

08:18:36.240 just sell it to you in a package they would do all so even though i would say hey like you know

08:18:40.060 i want like you know my natural shape i just want like you know the the shape or whatever

08:18:44.880 they're gonna just give you like a cookie cutter surgery you know what i'm saying so yeah if i

08:18:51.480 knew then what i do now i probably would just would have just did lipo 360 and i would have

08:18:55.300 been cool does it ever has it maneuvering through life through the world does it change

08:19:05.560 this will change like no do you have to

08:19:13.520 buy two seats no that's so funny tiffany my man made a joke he made a video and he was like

08:19:24.300 tiffany would he was like oh she needed about almost done tiffany almost done promise that

08:19:28.680 girl gracie that model gracie gracie bond oh yeah now she has to buy two seats i don't have to buy

08:19:35.700 yeah that's that's yeah great yeah i know you're talking about yeah

08:19:43.120 Okay, you say men are

08:19:45.780 Hold on

08:19:48.460 Disagreement, women's equality

08:19:50.500 But you'd like to get his take on a few things

08:19:52.060 I don't see much of it

08:19:53.100 So okay, what is the disagreement on women's equality?

08:19:57.000 I think we kind of touched on that

08:19:58.640 Like way earlier

08:20:00.220 Just, you know 1.00

08:20:01.640 But do women have equal rights? 1.00

08:20:04.020 Women do have equal rights

08:20:05.200 I can't think of anything that a man can do 0.97

08:20:08.460 That a woman can't do legally

08:20:09.680 But as far as equality 1.00

08:20:11.560 like for example i i could probably have a better education than you but if if we secure the same

08:20:18.260 job role you're probably you're probably going to get paid more or you're going to be respected

08:20:23.780 more in the workplace you know a lot of there are some men who will look at women as you know like

08:20:29.820 their their opinion doesn't matter as much than a man's opinion or you already have this preconceived

08:20:34.480 notion of this woman because of how she looks so she must not know what she's talking about or she

08:20:38.560 or she might not you know bring more to the table than this man you know so we're treated like that

08:20:44.940 okay in equal spaces and it's not fair uh the crucible andrew wilson just sent us a raid uh

08:20:52.340 thank you andrew for the raid appreciate it man hope you had a good stream i see mr i believe

08:20:56.760 that's mr e in the chat the enigmatic i believe that's mystery uh hey man thank you so much

08:21:03.220 appreciate you Andrew for the raid do we have an update on any message nothing shit they really do 0.60

08:21:10.920 not uh recap for the crucible joiners so uh she dates she's 59 she dates men in their 30s sometimes

08:21:19.260 in their 20s youngest she dated or I guess hooked up with was 25 and um she actually matched with

08:21:27.260 this beefcake of a cop and the cop who and he was in his mid-30s the cop drove two hours and then

08:21:36.360 but the weird thing is is that the cop after having spent about 10 minutes with her dipped

08:21:42.040 left like just wasn't feeling it whatever but she never got an answer as to why and so i

08:21:48.920 texted him on her phone and we're gonna see if we're gonna get a little if he's gonna give us

08:21:56.980 the the deets that would be cool uh okay finishing up your notes uh you say men are gold diggers

08:22:02.020 yes you got any cash on you i have my car in your in your purse my debit card yes no cat like cash

08:22:09.380 like paper cash anybody got cash you got cash you got cash you got cash cash on you cash on you you

08:22:17.020 got cash on you okay quick role reversal have you guys ever just had a guy who just gave you 1.00

08:22:22.820 money just because or did something for you just like i've heard sometimes women will be at gas 0.99

08:22:29.340 stations and a dude will just fill it up for the girl stuff like that you know have you had that 1.00

08:22:36.040 you've had that have you had the guy just not at the gas station not that but like something like

08:22:41.960 that or just here's money yeah absolutely really okay how much can you guys go get your cash and

08:22:50.100 give it to me no just for as a funny role reversal like uh-huh i've never done this um are you gonna

08:22:59.040 split your stream money with us don't worry about that we're all on our own time you're making the

08:23:06.420 minute and there's not a lot of tts's today and i blame you guys for that but what's tts mean uh 0.90

08:23:13.200 have we even gotten a fucking i don't even know if we've gotten a tts 0.94

08:23:18.420 what does that mean bro that's bad bro very beginning we got yeah did we wait let me just 0.98

08:23:29.780 look i think we got i got one t yo who's gonna pop a ball of champagne that's bad bro that's

08:23:36.500 really really that maybe pays for for tiffany's nose job at most well once all once your clippers

08:23:44.120 get going and it'll be good well instagram has me shadow banned no no they don't because i i see

08:23:52.260 all your stuff on on instagram because my friend sham was just on here by the way sham told me she

08:23:56.920 told me to tell you hi who sham sham the the the the trans friend the drag queen yeah oh okay sham

08:24:07.020 was fun she's awesome jam was uh yeah we've been friends for a long time let's see here tell you 0.97

08:24:12.020 hi we got one wait hold on bro what yikes all right tiffany you're fucking fired um one tts 0.99

08:24:26.100 one so w claim yeah only one tts holy fuck dude all right boys i'm uh ending the fucking whatever 1.00

08:24:34.160 podcast um all right never gonna see you guys again fuck off um but uh yeah no no shit yeah 1.00

08:24:41.940 you better not be shadow banned are you fucking serious i'm better not i'm like i'm like fucking 0.99

08:24:47.900 a week away from getting permabanned on tiktok i'm definitely shadow banned on tiktok shadow 0.98

08:24:54.920 banned on x on my main account um shadow banned on instagram no yeah it's bad facebook's doing

08:25:03.740 well facebook's doing well and where else do i post also took a hit on youtube i don't know

08:25:09.400 what's going on there's shit moving behind the scenes that i'm worried about um so anyways i

08:25:15.980 don't know um full moon by the way or well it was filming like a day or two ago okay men are gold 0.97

08:25:20.320 diggers will you give me cash i only got a i only got one tts i don't even know what the hell that

08:25:28.300 is give me your cash come on no the money all right i'll i'll send you a foot pic

08:25:34.640 i'm good come on come on no no money no no wait if i get what if i get that guy i'll give you a 0.99

08:25:43.360 foot picture though oh my god put that shit away um nice feet okay um men date women they can 0.99

08:25:52.200 manipulate that is so not true yes we get manipulated it is true women expectations 0.99

08:25:58.320 are too high during the dating phase you say want bills paid favors etc yes 1.00

08:26:03.900 i like you already uh it's okay to date multiple people at the same time yes date not fuck 0.81

08:26:11.660 erroneous erroneous so are you telling me that when you're trying to find someone that you have

08:26:20.660 their connection with yeah that you're only allowed to date one person dating does not mean

08:26:26.140 having sex yeah men don't do that did i say anything about what i'm allowed to do exactly

08:26:30.700 if i'm dating a woman i should be the only that's the delusion i should be it's the hypocrisy that

08:26:39.780 is that is the only one that's that's how you feel about yourself but i'm just gonna be honest

08:26:46.680 It's like if I'm single and I'm dating, I am trying to find that person that I have a connection with or that I like or that I can tolerate.

08:26:55.340 And I might need to go on a few dates this month to see who I'm interested in.

08:27:00.520 And I cannot feel any type of way if that man is also dating trying to find the same thing.

08:27:04.940 Now, once we become exclusive and we have an understanding that we want to get to know each other more or we're ready to become intimate, that's when things change because I don't play about my health.

08:27:16.680 That's why my body count is like it is

08:27:18.760 Because I spin the block on who I'm comfortable with

08:27:20.980 There's only a few people

08:27:22.640 That are willing to give you test results and stuff like that

08:27:24.880 I don't play about my health

08:27:25.900 Fair enough

08:27:26.660 Most men don't really like women

08:27:32.080 What does that mean?

08:27:33.140 You don't like women 1.00

08:27:34.240 You tolerate women 1.00

08:27:36.120 And you probably just 1.00

08:27:38.460 Get a woman when you need to get off

08:27:40.560 You act like you don't like women 0.87

08:27:42.940 I love women

08:27:44.260 When we came in, you did not speak to us. 1.00

08:27:47.000 Well, yeah, but we already established that was a race thing, okay? 0.93

08:27:49.760 No, but all jokes aside, you just, you just, you, you just, the way, the way you talk about women, it just, it just doesn't come off as you like women.

08:28:00.560 There are a lot of men.

08:28:01.620 I love women.

08:28:03.860 You love women. 1.00

08:28:04.780 Okay.

08:28:05.120 Can you, can I hear you say some nice things about women for once? 0.75

08:28:07.920 Okay. 1.00

08:28:08.600 Come on, let's go.

08:28:09.480 I hope you have good luck with your second BBL surgery.

08:28:14.260 reduction i'm happy that you you um you overcame the cancer i like your gold tooth

08:28:22.720 the this one right there uh heather you're you are so adorable thank you heather you're a blast

08:28:30.420 you you are um you you've got a effervescent nature to you that often you see hold on i'm

08:28:42.860 never mind um that was nice hard to be all the way nice you've got a nice uh energy to you thank

08:28:51.960 you or uh comrade you're russian you do not need any compliments from me you are strong russian

08:29:00.060 woman you do not need you do not need this from my man you are you are strong in yourself

08:29:06.800 um so difficult yeah i think she looks like a beautiful porcelain doll

08:29:18.960 yes don't you think she looks like a pretty porcelain yeah if you can get over like the

08:29:24.920 dead in the eye thing she's not dead in the eye she's set she has self-love and and she knows

08:29:30.500 who she is and she knows who she want what she wants in life and she's not gonna let anybody

08:29:34.320 attractive girl at the table how about that there we go see that's nice thank you yeah

08:29:38.980 that's nice okay so i didn't really mean specific to us but that was nice of you but what about like

08:29:45.460 women in general because you make a lot of generalized statements about women that are

08:29:49.540 all negative so what are some positive things that you can say about women as a whole that

08:29:54.140 you like about women because i haven't heard one thing that you like about women or one positive

08:29:58.720 thing about women don't say the labia i was literally i was about to say that's the first

08:30:07.440 thing that comes to mind i love labia that's your next t-shirt i tiffany 0.51

08:30:13.100 oh my god what do you like about women uh what do i like about women well 1.00

08:30:21.820 hats you gotta do hats

08:30:23.900 yeah I feel like this is a trick question 1.00

08:30:27.400 you don't like women right 1.00

08:30:28.980 I do like women 1.00

08:30:31.600 I know you don't I don't think you like me

08:30:33.160 what do you like about white people 0.95

08:30:35.460 how about we start with that

08:30:36.580 what I like about white people

08:30:37.860 what do you like about white people

08:30:39.760 it's not about the race

08:30:43.840 as a whole I like

08:30:45.440 who they are

08:30:46.620 it's a hard

08:30:49.420 like okay what 0.99

08:30:50.560 how does a woman i don't look at a race as a whole and judge them i look at of people everyone

08:30:57.960 as an individual yes but i don't want you to keep straight away from the question what what do you 0.53

08:31:03.140 like about women i like that women will fold my laundry and cook never ever do that's crazy 0.99

08:31:15.300 and i like look i enjoyed the companionship what about how if i did disliked women how the fuck 0.96

08:31:23.560 could i do this every single week this is why you make you better like women yes if i disliked women 0.97

08:31:29.400 i wouldn't do this to embarrass them and disagree with none of you were embarrassed tonight i gave

08:31:34.620 all of you a compliment you did that obviously baby doesn't happen on all of your episodes you

08:31:40.540 don't like women i love women well okay what would what would you feel is like because this

08:31:47.340 is one of those trick questions because the guys are gonna okay you're gonna list things that are

08:31:50.520 like uh dating like from a dating lens but it's like i don't know how i would even necessarily

08:31:56.740 answer that question if you asked me what do i like about men specifically i could answer that

08:32:02.240 easily but from question is for you okay okay you answer it let's hear it if i answer will you answer

08:32:09.540 uh i'll try my best um i love a man's voice like how how deep it is i love just the essence of a

08:32:19.300 man um just like their mannerisms um i like their body parts um i like that's like what i said well

08:32:29.660 i like i like i like dick you know i like only men have that okay i like how strong men are 0.98

08:32:35.980 biologically that they're stronger than us 0.99

08:32:38.320 that they give you a sense of protection 1.00

08:32:40.080 so am I allowed to say I like women 1.00

08:32:41.840 because they're weaker 1.00

08:32:42.720 no you can say I like the softness of a woman

08:32:45.880 I love the essence of a woman 1.00

08:32:47.560 I like women because they're weaker 1.00

08:32:49.580 I love how women dress and can accentuate 1.00

08:32:52.200 their bodies you know like 1.00

08:32:53.640 stuff like that that you would like about a woman 1.00

08:32:56.240 I like women 1.00

08:32:57.720 because they are 1.00

08:32:59.880 requisite for the

08:33:02.460 reproduction

08:33:03.680 of a species 1.00

08:33:04.460 women are requisites for the reproduction of the human race you you you could say you know i love 0.99

08:33:13.380 the fact that women are able to give life that's a powerful thing that would be uh look i'm not

08:33:17.920 a man that likes women would say that i'm not i'm not a poet like you i'm not sharp with the tongue

08:33:24.040 you're good with words i can't i'm not a wordsmith like that where i'm you have a colorful vocabulary

08:33:30.060 brian it's been colored by my many travels women i think i think that i don't think you like women

08:33:37.040 i do like women why am i gay now at the end of the show i love women i love women it's just you

08:33:45.340 put me on the spot with one of these questions where it's like what's the right answer i mean

08:33:51.480 you have to dig into your emotions which those guys are well i you comfortable doing those down

08:33:56.620 yeah i'm going to help men like you oh my god that's why you need a female advisor you're my

08:34:02.480 target audience female advisor you can need one oh i got people lined up already yeah

08:34:07.720 okay so uh let's see uh men like to well you know what really quick on that you say most men don't

08:34:18.840 really like women i think women misunderstand now maybe this is me being like doomer and not

08:34:25.900 doomer and black bill but maybe i'm jaded i don't like to do the like ice skating and the brunch

08:34:41.180 and all that shit i view but i i elevate women above purely companion or purely buddy i elevate 0.97

08:34:55.460 women to 0.99

08:34:56.480 you don't even know 1.00

08:34:59.640 what the fuck you're talking about 1.00

08:35:00.740 you're just 1.00

08:35:02.400 you think this is bullshit 1.00

08:35:04.340 you're just throwing whatever you can out 1.00

08:35:06.860 no this is

08:35:07.880 look I don't know

08:35:13.380 I think men

08:35:15.580 don't enjoy

08:35:16.700 some men don't enjoy doing

08:35:19.720 the like 0.99

08:35:21.320 cutesy oh we're gonna 0.96

08:35:23.600 to go to Ikea and fucking blah blah we're I guess that's lame but like the the ice skating 0.98

08:35:29.200 look I think maybe I'm unique because I'm a highly individualistic person 0.97

08:35:35.700 to a to a fault like to my detriment I'm highly individualistic that's relatable I can relate to

08:35:43.600 that yeah and so um I just don't like to do things with people in general right I think what a lot

08:35:52.720 of people are becoming that way these days i just like yeah i want my own bedroom yeah yeah your own

08:35:59.580 peace you want your own peace and quiet right maybe i'm fucked up no you're not there's nothing 0.88

08:36:03.980 wrong with that you're jaded you know i'm definitely but it's but not because not like 0.97

08:36:09.300 i don't know maybe i was just always that way no maybe it's an ex-girlfriend like a bad relationship

08:36:14.680 or something and then plus you still have a lot of growing to do you're still in your 30s so the

08:36:18.400 other thing is i'm it's like you're in your 20s i'm very career oriented business oriented i'm so

08:36:23.940 focused because i spend a lot of time on this podcast a lot of stuff behind the scenes people

08:36:29.700 don't see and because i'm so busy and because so much is at stake like how do i articulate this

08:36:39.480 um like uh there's there's a lot of potential on the table a lot that's at stake um like it's not

08:36:53.400 that i just have a job that okay i'm making 10k a month whatever right like this is like

08:36:59.160 set you up for life sure level of shit so i'm very focused on what i'm doing yeah and it's like 0.51

08:37:06.520 i need my time and space yeah sure but you can still like okay so what i still like what attracts 0.99

08:37:15.800 you to a woman like if you're gonna date a woman what attracts you to a woman we already said

08:37:20.140 natural what keeps you interested uh of course like everyone's gonna say looks i would say

08:37:27.020 there's going to be uh a pretty big personality component so i like a woman who uh i typically

08:37:35.700 prefer introverted women i tend to prefer uh a bit shy women almost women to the point that

08:37:41.220 they're a little awkward uh because they i'm not a truthfully even though i talk on the show for a

08:37:49.260 living i don't feel the need to be constantly blabbing like i can be comfortable and in quiet

08:37:55.020 with a woman um so a woman who's comfortable and quiet um like some women think that like oh you 1.00

08:38:02.840 don't want to talk to me and blah, blah, blah. And tell me about all the shit. Like, sometimes 1.00

08:38:07.020 I just, it's not about it's because you're on all day. I did PR. I traveled all over.

08:38:14.340 I didn't want to talk to people at the end because you're on all the time. It's nothing

08:38:18.480 personal. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And if you're introverted, you need your quiet space. You

08:38:23.020 have to recharge your social battery. Definitely introverted. But, uh, I feel like I'm on the

08:38:28.920 spot because i think i have i could tell you like 10 or 20 different things that are but it one it's

08:38:34.740 late and then two um i'm a bit drained here yeah we're all tired um what so what was the question

08:38:43.180 again and i'll try to actually answer it i don't know i'm tired too what are we getting to eat

08:38:48.200 with mayonnaise what what attraction to a woman what keeps you what keeps you almost i swear

08:38:53.520 tiffany five minutes it's probably four tiffany she's uh i i like a woman who has a calming 0.99

08:39:05.100 disposition so i like a woman who speaks calmly speaks softly um because there's women who are 0.99

08:39:14.840 high energy which isn't inherently a bad thing but i i do prefer a woman who has sort of a calming 1.00

08:39:21.220 disposition there's like a sweetness and softness to her voice i like a woman with a a nice laugh 0.97

08:39:27.760 um that's always good a woman who is has a sense of humor so she does indeed laugh some women 1.00

08:39:35.480 look some women just don't get your sense of humor and that's fine but um a woman who gets

08:39:41.140 your sense of humor has a has a nice quality to her laugh um i'm sure i could think of other things 1.00

08:39:47.780 that are more profound than just big labia.

08:39:50.380 Well, those are nice characteristics you described.

08:39:55.620 Is your cheerleader is on your side.

08:39:58.220 Yes, you've got to have somebody that has your back.

08:40:00.120 A lot of times the nature of dating is somewhat adversarial,

08:40:06.020 a little bit in the sense that you're a little on guard initially.

08:40:11.220 Eventually, hopefully you're opened up and you're fully comfortable with the person.

08:40:15.540 But a woman who is like on your team, and that's especially important to me because I, um, I have a controversial job and I, I'll be involved in one, uh, drama or another.

08:40:33.400 Oh, those comments, just haters. 0.75

08:40:36.200 She's going to see some video. 1.00

08:40:37.700 Somebody's talking shit about me. 1.00

08:40:39.320 Oh, Brian's blah, blah, blah. 1.00

08:40:41.520 Some fucking media outlet. 1.00

08:40:44.460 Right. 1.00

08:40:45.540 newspaper whatever uh writes a hit piece and yeah and instead of her in that moment

08:40:53.540 that generating anxiety in her and then creating apprehension as to her commitment to the

08:41:00.220 relationship she's standing by my side that's right and like really writing for me and that

08:41:06.540 doesn't mean that a woman has to agree with everything every single thing i say on the

08:41:10.440 podcast obviously i'm pro i'm somewhat of a provocateur and provocative and i'm going to

08:41:17.140 say things that like are shocking intentionally for entertainment or just for banter or fun or

08:41:23.720 whatever um some of the things i'm saying is a bit exaggerated for for comedic entertainment

08:41:30.440 purposes so then you're going to need a woman that's been somewhat in the entertainment industry

08:41:36.240 going to understand not necessarily but someone that's not gonna like get bent out of shape every 0.87

08:41:42.460 time some like idiot on tiktok so then somebody older makes of not necessarily a woman who's not 1.00

08:41:48.440 gonna get bent out of shape every time some fucking tiktok of some hater oh debunking the 1.00

08:41:53.720 whatever podcast or fucking blah blah they just need to or sometimes you take like when you're 0.98

08:41:58.020 gonna do this people wanna and maybe andrew might relate to this i don't know if andrew's still 0.94

08:42:02.980 watching um andrew wilson is when you're doing these kinds of conversations and it's like kind

08:42:09.340 of adversarial debate type stuff you're not gonna like you're gonna take l's and but sometimes the

08:42:16.420 viewers want to view you as like a superhero certainly that's going to be the case for andrew

08:42:22.760 where like he's a very he's a very dominant debater and almost never loses but he's had

08:42:28.420 interactions or exchanges where he'll lose like if if you look at a he does long debates

08:42:34.160 Andrew Wilson if he does a seven-hour debate even if he he overall wins the debate and he

08:42:41.400 97 98 percent of the time he's he's uh he's winning so to speak there's going to be like

08:42:51.720 some moments where he's on the back foot or moments where a person scores a couple points

08:42:56.800 against him like in the nba or any sporting like people there's no such thing as like such a

08:43:03.560 dominant team that they never get scored against in this same way like i'm gonna take l's doing

08:43:09.100 what i do and sometimes women are gonna have an issue with that yeah of course so you need a 1.00

08:43:17.400 cheerleader you need a woman who's a cheer not a literal cheerleader but a who's gonna be on your 1.00

08:43:21.920 team on your side who's got your back yes uh so that's huge your teammate a woman who has your

08:43:27.700 back um even when you're taking an l oh yeah even when you're taking an l you got some scandal or

08:43:33.980 some drama or somebody's lying about you or bullshitting you or some news article of oh my

08:43:39.660 god this person's so bad blah blah blah whatever it is right um trying to think if there's anything 0.96

08:43:44.780 else um yeah okay um tiffany's gonna kill me so i'm gonna try to blast through the rest as quick 0.94

08:43:52.540 as i can uh you uh african-american people deserve reparations yes do you all agree disagree 0.53

08:44:02.460 what do you think no no what do you think

08:44:08.460 reparations yes or no i don't think so uh scoot the mic a little closer reparations no what do

08:44:13.260 do you think no no so why did jewish people and native americans get reparations land

08:44:21.820 jewish people didn't get reparations in the united states well they well i mean they but but

08:44:26.400 but to my point they still got something we got nothing yes they did yes they did

08:44:33.960 native americans they get land you know like they you know all these other races um

08:44:42.740 they get they got something we got nothing we got oppression yeah equal rights we have to fight for

08:44:49.800 our rights and we just you know systematic oppression that still affects us to this day

08:44:56.100 and i think that black people deserve reparations well just a point of clarity here um

08:45:02.220 only what you're referencing you're saying like all these other races got something

08:45:08.340 only native americans like they're so i mean maybe you're talking of like in other countries

08:45:14.940 they maybe got something i'm not really familiar with that i mean they recognized there was a

08:45:19.000 problem and they made it even though you can never fix it they made efforts to fix it but

08:45:24.340 i can speak for my people we have been oppressed for a very long time the the systematic oppression

08:45:30.480 the inequality in education we still get discriminated against um like you know with 0.55

08:45:35.160 jobs and you know shit like that we don't get equal opportunities you know i feel like if i 0.56

08:45:40.720 let's just talk about native americans because you know you said they got it if if if they 0.95

08:45:45.660 recognized oppression with native americans and they try to make up for it why didn't they why 0.79

08:45:51.200 don't they feel the need to do that with people of color like i don't well um this is not really

08:45:57.760 my particular area of expertise, but I would ponder that the Native Americans had their

08:46:07.660 land taken from them, and so they were then granted land.

08:46:18.320 But it's not immediately clear how someone who was not a slave should be given money

08:46:24.980 for and who who pays it exactly i suppose just the american taxpayer and then um

08:46:33.140 like should people who were not slave owners owe a debt to people who were not slaves

08:46:47.220 i mean who paid the debt to the native americans those aren't the people who took the land from

08:46:52.220 them um who paid the i'm saying that that's what i'm saying so you're saying oh since they weren't

08:47:01.160 their treaties and they were granted land um but still to this day like but those aren't the people

08:47:08.600 who did that to them so we are the people that did that to the native americans the people who

08:47:16.060 are in the government right now did not do that no but engloos did it pilgrims did it everyone

08:47:22.080 that was sent from england over here the native americans back the land they weren't even given

08:47:28.720 back their original land most of them were placed out west and given desert land and that is what

08:47:35.640 they have but that's what i'm saying they gave them something to try to make up for it 0.93

08:47:39.060 there was land taken from black people as well since we did that to them why are y'all not going 0.74

08:47:45.740 back to nigeria and uh the sudan and libya and the places that still have the largest slave 0.56

08:47:51.780 market today and asking them why did they sell you in the first place the first recorded slave

08:47:57.400 trade in nigeria just recorded was in like 1471 but some of us weren't even over here yet for

08:48:07.380 sake of time i do have to move it on uh we got alexandra i thought it was just alex i don't know

08:48:12.900 i thought it was alexis um you've dealt with a lot of frenchmen so yes as to any interesting

08:48:21.440 dating topic or stories one time a guy threatened to attack you through text the next time he would

08:48:26.900 see you one of your recent dates here the guy ends up getting kicked out of the bar by a group

08:48:32.620 of mexican cowboys was there a particular reason uh yeah he called them some kind of slur it wasn't

08:48:38.420 a real date it was just some guy i ended up going on a drink with and uh what was this actually

08:48:44.240 wait don't say this right yeah well okay no it's just a word but yeah yeah okay um another time

08:48:49.520 the guy kept pulling over the car

08:48:51.580 dramatically to kiss

08:48:53.080 you

08:48:54.220 and then you got stopped by the police

08:48:57.560 who he had to beg not to arrest him

08:48:59.760 yeah that was intense

08:49:01.160 but romantic

08:49:02.020 everything good back there?

08:49:06.800 yeah 0.73

08:49:07.060 European men vs Americans 0.98

08:49:09.680 go ahead 0.99

08:49:10.500 well before I spent this time in America

08:49:13.980 I had a better opinion

08:49:15.400 well I actually think they're more or less 0.94

08:49:19.220 the same now that I've been here for a minute but I used to think that American men would be more

08:49:24.120 masculine and more generous I don't so much think that now I dated like one American in Paris and

08:49:29.540 he gave me a good impression but you know whatever well you're in LA so you're just dating a bunch of

08:49:34.280 LA yeah they're kind of not great I don't even know how to describe a lot of the dudes in LA 0.88

08:49:40.240 oh well you know one thing like artsy like fucking I don't know I don't know but one thing I definitely 0.95

08:49:45.600 noticed is the difference is that they don't make like reservations or nice dates here like the last 0.96

08:49:51.260 date i went on was yeah i know no boo as in expecting reservations why let's go do something

08:49:58.240 fun it's better for both of us let's just go for a walk oh my god anyways go for anyway

08:50:04.440 so the last date i went on here he um said let's go play pool and i thought okay why not

08:50:11.860 i'm open to anything okay and uh he didn't even make a reservation so then there was no space and

08:50:16.560 all that and i thought it's like the littlest things you can do oh well that's okay if you're

08:50:20.680 gonna go somewhere where there's like a chance of it being then yeah you should have a reservation

08:50:25.600 yeah like why go all the way there for nothing that's why you take a girl to uh mcdonald's 0.99

08:50:29.440 don't need a reservation for mickey d definitely don't let me get you some nuggets girl shit 0.99

08:50:35.280 what why you look at me i don't know you should have got us some nuggets here we got we got 0.99

08:50:42.940 12 different muffins back there you got four there was 12 muffins at the start oh there was

08:50:51.800 and they're good it's we're 10 hours in it's time to start eating some more muffins all right uh

08:50:58.320 okay we're gonna finish off with your final notes then we're wrapped oh my goodness

08:51:03.060 uh okay hold on where was i uh the we did the barista stuff um 1.00

08:51:10.900 okay women should be submissive that's you you don't think submissive is the right word 1.00

08:51:19.600 every couple should choose the relationship relationship dynamic that works for them

08:51:24.360 some prefer equal partners some prefer the man to lead some prefer the woman to lead

08:51:28.140 if a woman prefers a husband who leads she should first choose a man whose leadership

08:51:32.460 she genuinely respects. Different women value different strengths. For one woman, leadership

08:51:37.180 means intellectual strength. For another, emotional stability, financial confidence, physical strength, 0.99

08:51:42.300 or something else entirely. Once she freely chooses that man, she can willingly trust his judgment

08:51:48.000 while still offering her own advice. Respect is given voluntarily, not demanded. I also don't

08:51:56.180 think leadership means micromanaging. A leader's role is to protect the family, not to control

08:52:01.040 every decision day-to-day should simply be handled by the person best suited for them

08:52:06.340 leadership becomes important when the family faces serious decisions or danger such as financial

08:52:11.620 hardship threats to the family safety the children's well-being or other major challenges

08:52:16.040 you think many people confuse leadership with control i don't think they're the same thing

08:52:20.920 correct um do you think a component of leadership in a relationship would be a man not wanting his

08:52:31.600 girlfriend to go out to nightclubs or bars would that be controlling or would that be leadership

08:52:36.200 that would be leadership that's safety what do you think

08:52:39.960 i think it's a bit of both the both okay uh i'm not going to push back too much on that but

08:52:52.600 um i think we somewhat talked about the submission thing already uh women should not vote to which

08:52:58.660 you disagree um that's not my position though that women should not vote yeah i got sort of

08:53:05.140 sort of. But before debating the conclusion, you'd first like to understand what specific problem

08:53:12.640 removing women's voting rights is intended to solve. Once we identify the problem, we can ask

08:53:18.940 whether removing a constitutional right would actually solve it or whether there are better

08:53:23.560 alternatives. You also question the underlying principle men and women contribute to society

08:53:29.860 in different but equally indispensable ways correct men have historically provided much

08:53:36.220 of society's physical protection women also become pregnant give birth and may nurse infants

08:53:40.840 during those stages women and young children can be particularly vulnerable civilization depends

08:53:47.500 on both contributions not just one men bearing more of society's physical defense burden it's

08:53:52.400 not just physical defense it's also just like everything to do with infrastructure and everything

08:53:58.420 you see around you being built and maintained by men, but that does not mean women contribute 0.58

08:54:05.740 less to society. Biology assigns different burdens to men and women. You don't see why

08:54:10.460 one kind of social duty should confer political rights while another should not. You also

08:54:15.020 question the claim that women vote for policies whose costs are borne by men. Men and women

08:54:19.360 together elect governments and influence policies concerning war, welfare, taxation,

08:54:23.420 other public matters. Political responsibility belongs to the electorate as a whole, not

08:54:27.520 to one sex correct um okay there's a whole bunch there obviously we're not going to be able to dive

08:54:33.340 into everything i guess my one thing here is that you said that women equally contribute

08:54:41.800 correct in a different way so men contribute in one way women contribute in a different way

08:54:49.780 what is the way women equally contribute for example they have children

08:54:55.900 hmm can the government force women to have children no can the government force men to

08:55:03.700 uh force men to do their sort of well actually yes government can when they forbid abortion that

08:55:12.160 that's a terrible argument that's so bad okay that's so bad because okay even if there are 0.56

08:55:21.520 laws preventing women from getting abortions you would agree with me that the government

08:55:25.520 can't force a woman to have sex yes yes i can and can't force her to um not use birth control

08:55:35.540 and can't force her to yes i'm not arguing that right right so but you do acknowledge that that

08:55:42.900 is different yes right so um most abortions while occasionally there's like instances of abuse

08:55:52.340 most abortions the sex that resulted in that unwanted pregnancy was completely consensual

08:55:58.920 so what about it so you were asking uh regarding how women contribute i said for example

08:56:09.220 Well, my question was, can the government force women to give birth?

08:56:14.980 You say women equally contribute by having children, but they do so not out of any duty, but they do so voluntarily.

08:56:24.300 Correct. 0.68

08:56:25.220 The government cannot force women to do that, and they shouldn't, right? 1.00

08:56:30.080 Correct. 1.00

08:56:30.400 But the government can. So if men's contribution, if we were to like really limit, if we were to reduce down very simplistically both women and men's contribution, you would say women bear children. 0.59

08:56:46.180 Yes, women, women bear children.

08:56:48.340 And if we were to reduce men's contribution down, I think it's two-pronged, but it would be to fight wars, to defend the nation, defend the populace, right?

08:57:02.580 So the government can't force men to do that.

08:57:05.060 So you mean draft. That's what you mean, right?

08:57:07.220 Military conscription, yes.

08:57:08.940 Okay, now, out of all men in the United States, how many men are subject to military conscription?

08:57:15.440 All men are subject to selective service.

08:57:19.040 All ages, no exceptions.

08:57:20.040 All men were of the age at one point to be subject to military conscription. 1.00

08:57:24.280 Correct. Of some age, if we're taking at every given time, for example, you will not be subject to military conscription. Correct?

08:57:32.920 There will be some subset.

08:57:34.420 If the United States can always change the age range, I'm more likely to be drafted than like an able-bodied 20-year-old woman, athlete.

08:57:43.860 The government can change, but right now we have some law about conscription, and you are not the subject, correct?

08:57:54.460 I was subject to it.

08:57:56.620 You were, but you no longer are.

08:57:58.120 Well, hold on, but I don't understand.

08:57:59.400 So like, for example, wait, wait, really quick. When people get, um, what is it? Um, when people

08:58:06.320 get a pension, they're no longer working that job, but they conferred the benefits of receiving

08:58:13.420 the pension when they were, uh, when they were working at that time. In this case, men confer,

08:58:20.340 like, um, men were subject to it at some point. Okay. You are using an analogy and analogy is

08:58:29.220 not a way to prove something analogy is a way to illustrate something okay so right now i'm saying

08:58:36.860 if you take the whole set of men you will see subset of men that are subject to conscription

08:58:43.120 correct okay you are not among them right now currently but i was yes we heard that but i can

08:58:50.520 show you currently if you want to see my draft registration i don't i could show you if something

08:58:55.580 would have happened now you would not be drafted that's correct correct okay now there is a subset

08:59:03.640 of men now hold on wait wait really quick yeah um can women give birth indefinitely what do you mean

08:59:10.020 indefinitely there's there's an age range where women can give birth you know what every person 0.94

08:59:15.280 in the united states and in the entire world were born by a woman right but but hold on just so you 0.96

08:59:21.820 We understand what we're talking about.

08:59:23.620 I understand.

08:59:24.480 Yeah?

08:59:25.140 Very nice.

08:59:26.220 I understand.

08:59:27.400 But hold on.

08:59:28.280 If you're going to make an argument about, yes, it is true that the draft age is limited,

08:59:33.620 and I'm no longer. 1.00

08:59:35.220 We have a panel of women who may very well be incapable of... 1.00

08:59:43.940 That's fine. 1.00

08:59:44.660 That's fine.

08:59:45.140 But you did give birth to children, right?

08:59:47.460 Correct.

08:59:47.960 Yes.

08:59:48.300 I did.

08:59:48.920 Yeah.

08:59:49.020 now you are saying that men are subject to the draft right so what's what's the point that you're

08:59:55.880 trying to prove that men contribute more than women contribute or what are you trying to 0.98

09:00:00.600 sort of what's your what's your point uh sure in a situation in a shit hits the fan situation 0.98

09:00:08.340 uh men have a greater duty and responsibility so in the event if there was uh you know a scenario 0.96

09:00:17.480 in this country where a draft was implemented men have the duty and women have none how many men

09:00:27.060 would have this duty and responsibility i don't see how it matter it does matter because the

09:00:35.080 subset of men who are subject to the draft there may be a couple of millions of men but i'm not

09:00:40.600 I'm not making an argument

09:00:41.960 And women, all women

09:00:44.220 I agree with you

09:00:46.000 I'm not making a universal claim 1.00

09:00:48.420 So women contribute much more 0.66

09:00:51.060 Men contribute genetic material 0.98

09:00:53.220 Men contribute 0.98

09:00:54.720 Men contribute 1.00

09:00:56.420 You can't have children without men 1.00

09:00:59.140 We create children 1.00

09:01:00.220 We can have one man 1.00

09:01:01.920 For the entire population of women 1.00

09:01:04.120 And this would be enough to have children 0.98

09:01:06.980 Or two men 0.67

09:01:07.880 So we're not talking

09:01:10.500 about uh you you cannot argue about genetic material i just did but i just it's a it's invalid

09:01:19.220 argument so the the hold on the debate is not about i'm not i've never made the claim oh men

09:01:27.700 would be subject to the draft that's that's really not what the debate is centered around

09:01:32.020 so you said men contribute more than equally contribute yes i said equally contribute you

09:01:37.640 You see, I'm not saying that men contribute less, even though much less men are subject to the draft and women who bear children.

09:01:44.200 Well, this is only one of my arguments on this.

09:01:46.600 Oh, okay.

09:01:46.880 This is only – yeah, sure.

09:01:48.660 So do you concede this argument?

09:01:50.020 Yeah, I would argue – so in terms of you would – we would both agree that both – there's about – a bit more men, but there's about equal labor force participation.

09:02:02.660 A bit more men and say it again?

09:02:04.920 there's there's both men and women they're both working correct men more men work than women work

09:02:15.020 and men work more hours than women work but it's about it's about the same actually do i even want

09:02:22.980 to grant that what i'm gonna say yeah is that our our uh and there's no restrictions on what

09:02:32.660 women are allowed to do, men voluntarily enter fields where they're, because we were talking

09:02:38.460 about men and women contribute to society in different but equally indispensable ways.

09:02:44.920 Of course, equally indispensable.

09:02:46.920 But hold on, if we're looking at it from the frame of men's collective labor, men's collective

09:02:53.480 work, and women's collective work, there's no way you're going to tell me that women

09:02:59.960 equally contribute from a labor perspective i said in indispensable way they uh contribute

09:03:08.480 all all of us no but men and women okay but maybe we're talking past each other

09:03:13.200 in the ways without one okay do men and women contribute uh in the workforce is is one because

09:03:21.660 okay is a woman who doesn't have children but she's working is she contributing i guess she's 0.96

09:03:28.360 Like, I don't know, say she's a teacher.

09:03:30.260 You would, of course, say she's contributing, right?

09:03:32.760 Yes.

09:03:33.260 Okay.

09:03:34.400 My argument here, though, is that comparing men's collective work

09:03:39.980 compared to women's collective work, 0.99

09:03:43.240 men definitely contribute way fucking more than women do. 0.99

09:03:47.100 But add children to that equation. 0.99

09:03:49.340 But then, okay, add the various duties that men have beyond that.

09:03:55.880 I'm not arguing who's doing more.

09:03:57.760 i said both are equally important you are no no your claim hold on your claim is men and women

09:04:04.480 contribute to society correct so is one way is one way men and women contribute to society

09:04:12.440 through their work okay okay so i understand you're gonna say well okay giving men don't

09:04:18.420 give childbirth so this is like a plus for women i understand that uh by the way it's really tough

09:04:24.980 when like say your girlfriend's pregnant or whatever and she's like squeezing your hand

09:04:28.640 really hard when she's like that that's hard for us as men no that's really difficult no that's

09:04:34.640 really hard like no yeah no when i'm it's it hurts me when she's crying and in pain and i know it's

09:04:41.320 really hard for us men in my hand oh it hurt for yeah it bruised it bruised anyways getting back

09:04:48.880 to my point in terms of the contribution related to work do you think men and women equally

09:04:55.620 contribute when it comes to their workforce contribution in the united states probably not

09:05:00.640 anywhere anywhere anywhere in total you know in total in the former soviet union in the former

09:05:06.340 soviet union you remember uh world war ii you know when in the former soviet all men died

09:05:14.640 All men died

09:05:15.800 Or were people's 1.00

09:05:17.260 And then women took over 1.00

09:05:20.340 Everything 1.00

09:05:21.220 They were working

09:05:22.720 On infrastructure

09:05:24.500 They did everything

09:05:27.540 So now here luckily

09:05:29.800 Alright well look 0.99

09:05:31.020 World war 2 was really

09:05:33.920 Fucked up for Russia 0.96

09:05:35.140 And afterwards 1.00

09:05:37.180 In the 60s and the 70s women were working 1.00

09:05:40.040 On hard jobs

09:05:40.640 Looking at all countries

09:05:42.220 Okay, great. For a short period of time, even then, I'm almost going to guess that even when huge swaths of Russian men were killed during World War II, and many women, by the way, a higher proportion of women did pick up some of the slack.

09:06:01.120 All of it. Not some of it. There were no men left. 0.72

09:06:04.180 There were men left.

09:06:05.600 Please. There were men without legs, arms, you know.

09:06:10.220 and they were still doing like the most difficult jobs sitting there and they were telling women

09:06:15.320 what to do that's all soviet babushkas i know i know we're not doing no this is something you

09:06:22.760 cannot argue with me about there were so there were women caught like concrete workers and 0.98

09:06:28.180 fucking roofers there were women roofers oh my god okay all right yes yes in the middle of 1.00

09:06:37.700 a moscow winter you had women labor outdoor laborers yellow vest or orange vest okay women 1.00

09:06:46.440 were were digging roads and that was a common joke so whenever whenever it's needed and men 1.00

09:06:54.080 are missing women take over well we're gonna go ahead and grant for a short period after world

09:06:58.940 war ii russia because of its massive male casualties uh there's a higher um representation

09:07:04.800 of women in the labor like the physical labor workforce uh going to go ahead and grant it

09:07:11.980 every single other country throughout all of human history and even modern day when you have the 0.98

09:07:17.140 highest level of feminism ever and women have more freedom and more choice than at any other 1.00

09:07:22.180 point in human history uh women still don't equally contribute when it comes to the workforce 0.98

09:07:27.420 point blank period okay do you everything you see do you see these lights you see the plumbing

09:07:36.580 i already see the telecommunications i'm saying i'm saying women it's us men us men we do all of

09:07:44.000 it of course we do all of it you guys you guys would be living in mud huts if it wasn't we create

09:07:49.620 children we create children and that's a woman created you that's a beautiful woman created you 0.51

09:07:54.660 that's a beautiful thing and women need to start pumping out more kids well that's fine let's uh

09:08:01.980 i think it's great i love women for that okay all right i don't know uh what else do we have 1.00

09:08:08.500 i think we got one more oh almost there almost there um oh well i guess the argument on the

09:08:16.740 voting thing is in order for men to vote there they have to be subject to military conscription

09:08:23.320 women don't so there is a compelling argument to be like maybe either hey it's not fair you should

09:08:28.660 maybe not you either we equalize the draft so women can also be subject to military conscription

09:08:35.240 or we take it away from you guys or three-fifths yeah you get three-fifths of our vote i'll give

09:08:42.500 you some other options you get one-fourth maybe women get one-fourth of our vote half half maybe

09:08:48.800 Maybe, maybe, maybe only men who are subject to conscription can vote.

09:08:54.020 What do you say? 1.00

09:08:55.240 I'm fine with that, actually.

09:08:56.860 Okay, that's fine.

09:08:57.760 No, how about this?

09:08:58.420 You cannot vote, but men who are subject to conscription.

09:09:01.180 Here's my voting proposal.

09:09:04.560 If you join the military, so even if you're a net negative taxpayer, if you, but permanently.

09:09:11.220 Permanently?

09:09:11.920 What's permanently?

09:09:12.580 So if you're in the military.

09:09:13.360 For life?

09:09:14.340 26 years?

09:09:15.120 No, no, I'm saying if you're in the military for five years, you can vote forever.

09:09:21.100 Agreed. Done.

09:09:22.660 So if you're a woman or a man, you join the military, you can vote. 0.97

09:09:26.900 Totally fine with that.

09:09:28.440 You're a net positive taxpayer, whether you're a man or a woman, you can vote.

09:09:32.620 Done.

09:09:33.260 Okay. Done, Comrade.

09:09:35.340 Done.

09:09:35.800 It is done, Comrade.

09:09:36.780 Yes, I agree with you.

09:09:37.760 But if maybe half the vote, just saying.

09:09:42.700 You guys can't be forced to die.

09:09:45.580 Anyways, hold on.

09:09:46.800 Okay, I got to move it on.

09:09:49.260 You'd be interested in discussing household voting.

09:09:52.400 Okay.

09:09:53.320 Andrew Wilson argues from a religious view of patriarchy.

09:09:56.100 You're a secular conservative.

09:09:57.700 You don't object to religious values.

09:10:00.820 You object to the government compelling everyone to live according to one religion's theology.

09:10:05.500 Okay, I'll skip that.

09:10:06.800 that's for Andrew dating with the intention of finding a lifelong partner marrying building a

09:10:11.060 family is different from dating for companionship or sexual relationship it makes little sense to

09:10:18.420 play another example that comes up frequently on this podcast is the idea that women should

09:10:22.220 be submissive oh I think already we already did that yeah you did that we've covered everything

09:10:28.460 everything yeah all right when it was hot by the way i know it's a little cold right now it's good

09:10:36.220 you guys were saying it was so hot you see we're good now in russia okay um i'm gonna wrap the show

09:10:42.680 there um did you final check on the phone no not i put it back over there but let's get one more

09:10:49.420 check tiffany check check tiffany quick get her phone get her phone we gotta see if we got the dm

09:10:54.280 we gotta see

09:10:56.180 I bet you if you sent it from your phone

09:10:58.040 uh okay 0.99

09:11:00.340 I might be blocked are you saying he's gay 0.97

09:11:02.000 that's messed up

09:11:03.400 alright any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap the show

09:11:06.720 speaking out forever

09:11:08.640 hold your peace

09:11:09.140 um are we really gonna

09:11:12.600 do our show cause I really wanna do it

09:11:14.420 I am

09:11:16.780 exploring alternative

09:11:18.220 formats for my

09:11:19.920 YouTube channel

09:11:21.720 so it's possible

09:11:23.200 nothing okay all right turn your phone over please um all right i want to say uh gg well played last

09:11:31.880 call hit the like button please on your way out also please leave a night do you want to take

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09:11:45.720 thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with

09:11:50.460 me i appreciate that thank you to the wonderful panel uh wonderful panel appreciate you guys for

09:11:55.960 coming tonight it was a fun convo it was fun uh we're gonna be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific

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09:12:21.660 matter how big or small thank you guys appreciate it and uh let's see oh i believe uh we we got

09:12:29.220 andrew coming next week so tune in for that that's going to be good uh i think we're doing at least

09:12:35.700 one debate that's probably so guys keep keep an eye out for it's either going to be friday

09:12:42.540 uh saturday for sure debate sunday dating talk and then maybe a debate on friday we'll see though

09:12:51.700 we'll see so andrew's back in studio the man the myth the legend the master debater andrew wilson

09:12:58.920 uh that's pretty much it thank you guys it was lovely having you guys i know it's late thank

09:13:05.380 you guys for sticking with me thank you you know w's in the chat for tiffany i want a whiffiny 0.70

09:13:10.180 in the chat put with any in the chat w's w tiffany the poor the poor gal um she's she just 1.00

09:13:19.960 came down with a bad case of um aids i'm kidding she she's a little sick she's a little under the 0.93

09:13:26.280 weather and she she was a trooper she powered through it and uh so w's in the chat for tiffany

09:13:34.980 did the ipad die tiffany or is it showing the chat oh man i gotta okay i gotta fix that anyways

09:13:43.400 uh they're all saying poor uh get well soon tiffany so uh yeah okay i feel like i'm forgetting

09:13:50.180 something uh what are we forgetting tiffany hey guys okay we're gonna rip it we're gonna rip it

09:13:58.360 super quick okay guys twitch.tv slash whatever okay i need i don't you guys yes or no that's

09:14:09.340 it the question is would you date the male version of you ready tiffany

09:14:12.880 no probably not that's but okay remember what we were talking about it's just one ai's description

09:14:25.640 of me if i was yeah but remember what we were talking about you just rejected you dog that's

09:14:32.460 what i'm talking that's your that's who that's like a small boy or whatever yeah

09:14:37.900 okay all right next oh wow oh actually not bad okay wait is that your natural hair color or do

09:14:51.080 you diet i diet okay why why yeah why would you want to be a ginger i don't know i like it sorry 0.62

09:15:01.100 to any gingers in the chat because it looks like your eyebrows they're like you have black or brown

09:15:07.720 hair uh i have uh lighter than yours okay all right next 0.99

09:15:14.100 look i'm doing the whatever not bad not bad would you date him no shit next 0.97

09:15:23.460 would you date him no what look at the doll on the back wait what's wrong why not why not 0.99

09:15:30.380 closer to the mic closer to the mic oh because i'm not really into blondes so much oh my god

09:15:36.520 well no that's gray let's say that's gray no what just his face okay fine he has dark hair

09:15:43.100 would you date him no no he didn't he wasn't born in 2000

09:15:49.100 is that the problem maybe his birth date starts with a 19

09:15:56.360 yeah okay next wow okay oh that's a handsome guy yeah yeah he looks like a nice guy right

09:16:10.200 the one with the beard he fine he is yeah

09:16:13.080 that guy looks like he plays world of warcraft

09:16:17.100 Why am I bald?

09:16:24.640 Why am I bald?

09:16:25.780 He's not bad looking.

09:16:27.120 That's horrible.

09:16:28.540 My grandfather was 93 and died with more hair on his head.

09:16:32.860 No, I would not.

09:16:34.760 Okay.

09:16:35.380 Oh, my God.

09:16:36.600 Hell no. 0.91

09:16:37.240 Hey, bro, you did me dirty on me. 1.00

09:16:40.440 You picked a weird-ass fucking screenshot. 1.00

09:16:43.120 No, look at my screenshot. 1.00

09:16:44.180 Go back to my screenshot.

09:16:45.460 I was trying to do the whatever.

09:16:47.100 um i feel like i'm forgetting something but

09:16:49.880 i don't know all right you're not we covered a lot yeah okay uh oh seven's in the chat oh

09:17:00.340 seven's in the chat guys good night good night guys and we will see you guys next time good night

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