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00:02:20 we are casting women do you have any bad date stories awful x hot takes or disagreements with

00:02:25 me or the show want a chance to share your thoughts and experiences on dating relationships

00:02:29 and more dm at whatever on instagram you can uh also support me by putting me in your will

00:02:37 and bequeathing some or all of your state to me i accept pokemon cards mansions houses vehicles

00:02:42 collectibles rare 90s memorabilia i'm looking for a crown vic police interceptor you know the ones

00:02:50 from i'd say that's like the the 2000s and i think they continued them into the 2010s i'm looking for

00:02:58 a crown vic police interceptor uh don't ask me why well it doesn't really matter i want one um

00:03:08 So if you have one, hook it up.

00:03:11 And then thank you to somebody.

00:03:13 I don't know if it's fair to say your name, so I'll keep you private.

00:03:16 Somebody sent me a, actually took me up on this,

00:03:19 and they sent me, I said rare 90s memorabilia or collectibles.

00:03:25 They sent me a NES system with the Duck Hunter game.

00:03:31 I forgot the name of it.

00:03:32 And so it came with the little...

00:03:34 And so thank you.

00:03:36 he sent me some some cool swag and merch thank you for that appreciate it uh also does anyone

00:03:42 have any contacts at tiktok snapchat and or instagram slash meta dm at whatever if you do

00:03:46 i'm trying to work some account things out anyways i guess that's 80s somebody in the chat said 80s

00:03:54 so duck hunt yeah all right without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves

00:04:01 starting with you go ahead okay oh sorry one i apologize didn't mean to cut you off there one

00:04:07 last thing uh so guys um panels a little a little light today we were down normally we do like nine

00:04:14 people total including myself we only have seven so we're down two uh so you know sometimes that's

00:04:21 just the way you know you roll the dice that's the way it goes uh in terms of people flaking and

00:04:27 no-showing. So we had essentially what I would consider two no-shows. Sort of two no-shows.

00:04:35 Had I not sent them a reminder today, like if I had not tried to get in touch with them,

00:04:41 they would have just not messaged us and just no-showed. So it's like a no-show.

00:04:46 Tiffany, why don't you pull up that DM I got from them? Here's the reason why they can't make it.

00:04:50 I've had them on schedule for 10 days. Hi, sorry, we had a last-minute party in LA to go to.

00:04:57 Thanks for the offer.

00:04:58 Maybe next time.

00:04:59 First off, there was no offer.

00:05:00 They reached out to us asking to be on the show.

00:05:05 And we had them, like, locked in on schedule since, like, September 18th, I think.

00:05:13 So it's about 10 days.

00:05:15 So it wasn't just like, hey, you want to come on the show?

00:05:19 Like, we're pretty, I think we're pretty formal, I would say, with our invitations.

00:05:26 and we're we don't keep it casual like yeah you know if you want to show up just show up it's 0.73

00:05:31 very uh you guys can probably uh attest to this like we send fucking probably more reminders than 0.66

00:05:39 you would expect but we send like multiple reminders we send you the show info a week 0.81

00:05:43 ahead if you have been booked for longer than two weeks we send you a two-week reminder

00:05:47 we can we tell you uh or we confirm uh so anyways um very rude of of both of them to just

00:05:55 pull that so that's a bit frustrating um and then like leading up to the day uh I overbook

00:06:02 so we had a total of like 10 I overbook anticipate so in order to get 10 people to show up

00:06:08 or I guess I suppose I should say 9 10 people including me but in order to get

00:06:13 9 people to show up you got a book 18 you got a book 20 so we had 10 people like 10 people total

00:06:23 over the course of a week, cancel.

00:06:25 So, anyways,

00:06:26 you have a standing offer at the end of each show.

00:06:31 You offer them.

00:06:34 Well, yes, we offer people to come on the show,

00:06:39 but the way she says, here, pull it back up.

00:06:45 The way, thanks for the offer,

00:06:49 like they were on schedule,

00:06:51 as yesterday they sent this uh this morning so to say thanks for the offer they had already

00:06:58 agreed they already accepted the offer so this makes it seem like oh we were dming them two days

00:07:05 ago and working out the details and seeing if they would come on and you know what they decided

00:07:09 not to do it no they decided to do it and then and you know we had them on his schedule for

00:07:17 basically 10 days and then oh have a part we have a party uh so anyways last minute party well it

00:07:23 sounds like they're still drunk well i don't know it wasn't yesterday the party they i suppose i

00:07:28 believe they have a party today oh geez so they canceled i don't know to go to a party or whatever 0.98

00:07:34 well they're prostitutes um so normally the prostitutes are usually pretty reliable 0.80

00:07:42 to for the show just to be clear uh but uh sounds like they had a gig it could be 1.00

00:07:50 yeah they are indeed whores uh so hoes gonna ho i guess um all right um go ahead and uh 0.96

00:08:00 introduce yourself please okay hello my name is alex i'm 27 i'm from ireland um i've been living 0.99

00:08:07 in Paris for the past four years, working as a nanny. And I'm just in America for three

00:08:13 months, just having an adventure.

00:08:16 Tu parles français?

00:08:17 Oui.

00:08:17 C'est bien ça?

00:08:18 Oui.

00:08:19 Comment tu dis employer?

00:08:23 Like my chef.

00:08:24 The chef?

00:08:25 Chef?

00:08:26 Yeah, your boss.

00:08:27 Ah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:29 Le patron?

00:08:30 Oui.

00:08:30 Ton patron, c'est une famille?

00:08:33 Oui, oui, like deux familles.

00:08:35 And they're okay with you 0.92

00:08:40 So you're a nanny

00:08:41 But you're taking an extended leave

00:08:43 No, I gave up my jobs

00:08:45 So I had one job during the week

00:08:47 And one job at the weekend

00:08:48 And yeah, I decided

00:08:51 I need to do something different

00:08:52 I need to live a little bit

00:08:53 So I always wanted to come to America

00:08:55 So yeah, I'm here

00:08:57 How much longer are you here for?

00:08:59 Another month and a half

00:09:00 So yeah, I'm going to be in LA

00:09:02 For another like three weeks or something

00:09:03 and then I think I will maybe go to New York for the last month.

00:09:08 Okay.

00:09:08 So you've just been staying with friends or...

00:09:12 No, no.

00:09:13 Hotels, Airbnbs?

00:09:15 Yeah, spending all my savings, basically.

00:09:17 So how long have you been here in the U.S.?

00:09:19 Like a month and a half, maybe.

00:09:21 I think I went to New York, then Charleston, then New Orleans, and San Fran, then here.

00:09:28 Okay.

00:09:28 Yeah.

00:09:29 And why did you give up on the whatever, whatever?

00:09:34 On the whatever-whatever? 0.81

00:09:35 The nanny job? 0.72

00:09:36 The nanny job, yeah.

00:09:37 Oh, well, it was always meant to be a temporary thing,

00:09:40 and I got some really good jobs,

00:09:41 so it made sense for me at the time to keep going with them.

00:09:45 But, you know, it's just not fulfilling long-term,

00:09:47 so I have to move on.

00:09:50 Any college?

00:09:51 I did study early childhood care when I first moved to Paris,

00:09:55 so I have a diploma in that.

00:09:56 And I have different diplomas around fashion,

00:09:59 trend forecasting, styling, things of that nature.

00:10:01 Yeah. And what have you been doing in L.A. for the past month and a half?

00:10:08 Living life, exploring, seeing new things. I mean, like for me, going to Trader Joe's is fun.

00:10:13 You know, new supermarket even, or Air One especially. So yeah, just hanging out, doing

00:10:19 whatever, hanging by the pool, going shopping, exploring. Is it your first time in the States?

00:10:26 I was in New York for a few days last year. But other than that, yes.

00:10:30 Okay, so you've been to the United States one other time.

00:10:33 Yes.

00:10:33 But very short in New York.

00:10:35 Mm-hmm.

00:10:35 Okay.

00:10:36 All right.

00:10:36 What about you?

00:10:37 Thank you.

00:10:38 I'm Pepper.

00:10:39 I'm 54.

00:10:40 I'm from the Bay Area.

00:10:43 Your name's Pepper?

00:10:45 Pepper.

00:10:46 Pepper.

00:10:47 P-E-P-P-E-R. 0.88

00:10:48 Mm-hmm.

00:10:49 Pepper.

00:10:49 That's my, yeah.

00:10:51 Okay, you're from the Bay Area.

00:10:53 Yes, I am.

00:10:54 Where are you from before the Bay Area?

00:10:56 Well, I was born in Russia.

00:10:58 Okay.

00:10:58 Where?

00:10:59 Russia, Russia. Some peripheral city. Stalingrad. No. The city is called Samara. I'm sure you don't know.

00:11:09 Somewhere? Samara. Oh, I thought you said the city is called somewhere.

00:11:13 Somewhere. Yeah. Samara? Samara. Okay. And when did you move to the United States?

00:11:19 In 2000. Okay. What do you do for work?

00:11:22 Okay. I have a master's degree in mathematics. I specialized in computer science. Afterwards, I worked for 10 years as a software engineer. Then I chose to be an entrepreneur. So, I opened a toy manufacturing company.

00:11:44 we had um for a couple of years we had a best-selling science toy um then i stepped down

00:11:54 from toy manufacturing and i became canvas entrepreneur which i've done for another eight

00:12:00 years gotcha so and i stepped down also because my mother's health deteriorated and now i'm a

00:12:07 caregiver so i had to step down you said something uh so you got your master's in mathematics correct

00:12:13 That was in Russia, is that correct?

00:12:15 Correct, yes.

00:12:16 And you said you did something, you were a software engineer,

00:12:20 but in between that and the master's in mathematics, it was what?

00:12:24 You said science, something science-related?

00:12:27 No, I said I specialized in computer science.

00:12:30 Computer science, okay.

00:12:31 Yes, computer science.

00:12:32 Okay, got it.

00:12:33 Yeah, naturally I moved to be a computer engineer, like software engineer.

00:12:37 I see, okay.

00:12:38 And, all right, move to the United States.

00:12:43 Do you have citizenship?

00:12:46 Yes, I do.

00:12:47 Green card or citizenship?

00:12:48 Citizenship.

00:12:51 Naturalized?

00:12:54 Citizenship.

00:12:54 What do you mean naturalized?

00:12:55 Well, like how did, I guess, did you get it through marriage?

00:12:59 Did you get your citizenship through the naturalization process?

00:13:02 All right. So I came here as H-1B worker. And my husband did too. So I came here with my husband. Both of us got H-1B visas. This was during software boom. You know, in the United States, in the Bay Area, there was lack of software engineers.

00:13:23 Yes.

00:13:24 We had experience and we got invited by our companies. We got invited.

00:13:32 Can I just have you straight in the mic so it's...

00:13:34 Sure.

00:13:34 There you go.

00:13:35 Like this?

00:13:35 Continue.

00:13:36 Okay.

00:13:36 So we got invited by our respective companies, and we've got H-1B visas.

00:13:42 Okay.

00:13:43 Gotcha.

00:13:43 And then from there, I guess what's the process to becoming a citizen?

00:13:49 You just stay here and then can apply?

00:13:51 So let me just stick something into the timeline.

00:13:56 Sure.

00:13:56 Okay.

00:13:57 um so when i graduated university after that uh my husband and i we moved to israel

00:14:05 so we're jewish we moved to israel and we lived in israel for seven years okay and then over there

00:14:12 we worked as software engineers and we were hired by american companies to come over here

00:14:18 okay so uh the process is the following uh the company that you come with your h1b visa can

00:14:29 sponsor you to get a citizenship they can they don't have to unless you want to so at the

00:14:35 beginning we did not plan to stay in the united states it wasn't the plan at all we just wanted

00:14:40 to work here temporarily so and then being here a number of years sort of it grew on me

00:14:48 and we decided to have our company submit for citizenship.

00:14:54 So my husband got his green card within, I believe, three years,

00:14:59 and for me it took five years because FBI was checking me

00:15:03 whether I was Mossad or KGB.

00:15:05 They were not sure, and at the end they gave me an okay.

00:15:09 can you say the company that hired you originally company that hired me originally

00:15:22 yeah the one you said you moved you came here on h1b uh the company name was healings

00:15:28 are they still around no no they're not 2000s right yeah yeah you came here in 2000 yes so

00:15:36 Before 9-11.

00:15:39 Before 9-11.

00:15:40 Before 9-11, mm-hmm.

00:15:42 But there was the bubble burst, the tech, the dot-com?

00:15:47 Yeah, a couple of years later.

00:15:48 Was that in the late 90s, or that was the...

00:15:50 It was a couple of years later.

00:15:52 I think it was 2002, 2003.

00:15:55 Okay, so you got here right before the dot-com bubble burst.

00:15:59 Yeah, true.

00:16:01 Okay, and I'll come back to that.

00:16:04 What about you?

00:16:05 My name is Heather.

00:16:06 I'm originally from Columbus, Ohio. I'm a graduate of The Ohio State University.

00:16:12 Most people know me from the wild and crazy reality era, early 2000s, Rock of Love with

00:16:18 Bret Michaels, Charm School, Sharon Osbourne. I love money. Yes, I was the crazy, wild maniac on

00:16:25 there. And now I'm a co-producer of the reality TV queens on the reality TV legend streaming network.

00:16:32 and I'm also a dual licensed real estate agent

00:16:35 in the state of California and in the state of Ohio.

00:16:37 Got it. Age?

00:16:40 Oh, of age.

00:16:42 I'm of age.

00:16:43 What is your age?

00:16:44 Of age.

00:16:46 Well, duh, but what is your age?

00:16:49 Of.

00:16:50 Of.

00:16:51 Age.

00:16:51 That's not an age.

00:16:53 That is a range of age looking for the definitive age.

00:16:58 Hmm.

00:16:59 Middle age?

00:17:01 Middle age.

00:17:02 Yes.

00:17:02 okay um why don't you just you know just 51 you're 51 yeah uh and you were on now this is a show i

00:17:11 i watched many years ago did you uh the the rock of love with brett michaels i think i maybe watched

00:17:17 uh the first they're like you said three there's three seasons yeah i think i watched the first

00:17:23 and second a little bit it was it was quite a while ago though yeah and so you were we were

00:17:29 the trailblazers did you and your name is heather yes did you go as heather on the show because

00:17:34 sometimes people use stage names you know no i didn't actually i went by my own name and i was

00:17:39 the one that got like the brett tattoo and okay so you went by heather on the yeah you have a brett

00:17:44 michaels tattoo i got it done on the show i don't have it anymore you removed well i kept it for

00:17:50 seven years because everybody wanted to take photos with it right okay and then i had a boyfriend who

00:17:55 hated it so i i ended up getting across over it like please god don't let me do this again

00:17:59 but it was weird because i had no tattoos or anything at 31 when i entered reality television

00:18:05 so that was my first tattoo on air fueled with gray goose so what was it just a picture of his

00:18:13 face or it was his name oh brett yeah so don't you remember that episode no i don't remember

00:18:19 anything from the show but i do remember watching it yeah i was on all three seasons they brought

00:18:24 me back every season to just turn the house upside down they they would uh bring in new people too

00:18:30 right yes they would bring in some repeats too yeah and then like the the kind of the breakout

00:18:36 starts from the first season they would bring in to like stir it all up and get everybody drunk but

00:18:41 that was back in my drinking days now I'm sober wait so okay you um now you know these uh there's

00:18:48 What was that one with Flavor Flav?

00:18:51 Oh, yes.

00:18:52 Did you try out for that one?

00:18:53 No, I didn't.

00:18:55 No.

00:18:56 Actually, they contacted me about this.

00:18:58 I went on the Surreal Life fame games in Las Vegas, and I was just rip-roaring drunk, and I turned the house upside down.

00:19:05 And then two months later, they contacted me on MySpace and said, you are great on the show.

00:19:10 We have a show we think you'd be awesome for.

00:19:13 It's a dating show if you're single, and it's with an 80s rocker.

00:19:16 and um at that time it was like super party girl era so i was like let's do it and uh did you um

00:19:25 yo in the chat can you tell me type if you remember watching rock of love the brett

00:19:32 michaels dating show is vh1 right yeah it was vh1 vh1 and then do you remember

00:19:37 heather yes they're gonna if they watch it they're gonna remember me now are there clips

00:19:43 of you on the i don't know if we get like a we might get a copyright for that there's clips of

00:19:48 you like on the show back well here's the issue that i'm having now because when we filmed it

00:19:55 it was there was only myspace so there was no streaming there was no anything and so

00:20:00 it was just vh1 so they said you know you can curse go do whatever we have to block everything

00:20:06 out we have to censor everything but now they're selling it to streaming like uncensored and i did

00:20:12 not um oh i did not i did not give them what where's it streaming everywhere and it's like i

00:20:20 did not give the authority to use my boobs everywhere and and when you get to the second

00:20:26 third season like we're talking like full frontal and everything and so like it's um i don't know

00:20:31 what's going on but uh we did not are you like suing the production or something is that

00:20:36 you know i don't know i have a book i have a book coming out that i'm working on right now

00:20:44 it's hell all and it will be released uh the 20th anniversary of rock of love in 2027 unless

00:20:51 when did rock of love come out march 2027 or march 20 oh march 2007 so if my rights get bought

00:20:58 before then i'm okay with that but if not like there's a lot of things that happened on that

00:21:04 and for it to be just to revamp somebody's career, allegedly.

00:21:09 Yeah.

00:21:10 Private chat, Tiffany.

00:21:11 We found a photo of you from around the era.

00:21:14 Okay.

00:21:14 Because I was asking the chat if they recognize you from the show.

00:21:18 Yes.

00:21:18 Rock of Love with Bret Michaels, who was the lead singer of Poison.

00:21:23 Yes.

00:21:23 What's their big hit, the single?

00:21:26 Oh, Look What the Cat Dragged In or The Party one.

00:21:31 Poison. 1.00

00:21:32 Unskinny Boss.

00:21:33 I'm Skinny Bob, Every Rose Has Its Thorn.

00:21:36 Oh, yeah.

00:21:36 Okay, there we go.

00:21:38 Every Rose Has Its Thorn.

00:21:40 Okay, that's poison.

00:21:41 Yeah.

00:21:42 All right, go ahead. 1.00

00:21:42 Pull it up, Tiffany.

00:21:43 This is a photo view around the era, 2010, a bit after.

00:21:47 Okay.

00:21:47 We got it?

00:21:48 Let's see.

00:21:49 Yeah, that was at a red carpet event in Hollywood.

00:21:51 So when the show hit number one, I headed over to Hollywood,

00:21:55 and then I started doing a bunch of other shows after that,

00:21:59 and then some movies and sitcoms and game shows.

00:22:02 I just wrote it out.

00:22:03 as long as i could until i about keeled over so uh did you um you and brett have a little 0.62

00:22:11 romance we had a little bit of romance but not show though not all i never had sexual intercourse

00:22:17 with him i know that people don't believe that but i did not and i have not wait on the show did

00:22:22 he have sexual intercourse with any of the women yes besides you no it wasn't me i should have

00:22:30 Because nobody believes me anyways, right? 0.98

00:22:32 So there was some messing around.

00:22:34 Because I could have sworn he, again, my memory is super blurry. 0.94

00:22:39 I'm pretty sure he had sex with some women on the show. 0.91

00:22:41 And then as the seasons progressed, I feel like some of the women were a little bit more promiscuous. 0.95

00:22:47 So they were really getting down. 1.00

00:22:49 Okay.

00:22:49 Allegedly.

00:22:51 So that show is Eliminations?

00:22:54 Yes.

00:22:55 How far did you make it?

00:22:56 All the way to the end.

00:22:57 So you got, were you the winner?

00:22:59 No, I was the runner-up because I was about it.

00:23:02 Like, I was about it.

00:23:04 So, and I said, well, we should just, and I was told I was going to win, you know.

00:23:08 And I said, well, we should just, you know, do a spinoff show, take it on the road, on a bus, this and that.

00:23:13 But then that didn't happen, and then they did the bus show anyways.

00:23:16 But if we, if he would have chose me, like, that would have been it.

00:23:20 We would have been doing something else.

00:23:21 So there wouldn't have been season two and three.

00:23:23 So business-wise, on all their part, it makes sense.

00:23:26 To me, I'm like, it didn't.

00:23:28 i mean it did but it didn't i think that era was kind of peak reality tv show it was so

00:23:37 unpolished and super like balls to the wall anything goes like you're on your own like

00:23:44 no health you know no hospital visits like if you're gonna die of alcoholism you're gonna just

00:23:51 die right there nice there's a couple girls i had to save you know from alcohol poisoning and uh

00:23:56 yeah it was i don't think people could handle it these days did you guys get paid for for that 0.98

00:24:01 hundred dollars an episode and how many episodes like 10 so some girls got there and they had 0.57

00:24:07 flown in from like chicago or wherever and then they didn't get in the house they're like pop up 1.00

00:24:11 up bye so they got nothing i know maybe the per diem at the hotel for a few days and some food

00:24:16 but i was there the whole 30 days but the real money comes afterwards when they would do the

00:24:21 guest appearances and celebrity appearances so you'd be booked thursday friday a saturday

00:24:25 but then I'm just like partying and partying and um yeah but it was I feel like it was just

00:24:33 crazy trailblazing and kind of set the bar for some of the the hardcore um reality tv shows

00:24:41 these days like Housewives and I think Jersey Shore I think they were either right before us

00:24:47 or right after us the girls next door they're around the same time too so we had some fun at

00:24:51 the playboy mansion so yeah that was like the era and uh really quick before and then i'll have to

00:25:00 move it on but what was the uh casting process were there was there a casting call like you had

00:25:06 to do repeated castings or i didn't because i was an extra on the surreal life okay so but for like

00:25:13 i guess the other people um yeah they actually went to chicago they definitely were honing in

00:25:19 on Las Vegas because the rock

00:25:21 stars like entertainers. 0.99

00:25:23 Most of their baby mamas are entertainers 1.00

00:25:25 that they don't like to talk about, whatever. 0.98

00:25:27 So they definitely were

00:25:29 casting all three seasons

00:25:31 in Las Vegas heavy, but then also

00:25:33 I think they cast in Chicago

00:25:35 and maybe Myrtle Beach

00:25:37 or whatnot.

00:25:38 Do they even still do shows like that?

00:25:43 I don't know that

00:25:45 people would be able

00:25:47 i don't know people are soft these days so you know if you get a plate thrown at you or if you

00:25:53 get into a scuffle somebody might see you these days then it's just like it's okay you know we

00:25:58 were going hard but then you watch i watch back i watch back now and i'm just i'm so glad i don't

00:26:03 drink anymore because all right uh okay what about you uh my name is elissa i am 59 i'm from los

00:26:12 Angeles, and I am actually a student right now. Okay. Studying what? Studying clinical psychology.

00:26:20 And you're getting your... Master's. So you have your undergrad. Yeah, I went back to school at

00:26:26 57. So you just got your bachelor's degree. I finished it in June, yeah. So wait, okay, 59,

00:26:33 and you're working on your master's. When will you finish your master's program? Hopefully two years.

00:26:37 In two years. So it's 61. Okay. Really quick, going back to you, education, any college or

00:26:43 anything like that? Yeah, I actually went to Case Western Reserve University for pre-med. It was a

00:26:48 biology pre-med. And then I shot for Playboy for the college girls edition and they kind of like

00:26:53 shunned me. So I transferred to Ohio State where I got a BA in communications. So then I moved in

00:26:58 2002 right after graduation. And now I live in Newport Beach, California. Got it. Going back to

00:27:03 you uh okay uh what do you do for work just student uh student uh yeah I'm not really

00:27:09 working much now okay at the moment yeah got it okay I'm gonna come back to the master's thing

00:27:14 uh actually no let me just do it now master's so when do people typically retire so so I'm

00:27:24 an interior designer okay that's my that's my background from UCLA I went to UCLA so oh so

00:27:30 Do you have an interior background degree?

00:27:33 Yes, interior design, yeah.

00:27:35 Interior design, and then you did that.

00:27:38 And then I was married, and I was busy with my children for a long time,

00:27:43 and then I got divorced in 2020.

00:27:46 Divorced in 2020?

00:27:48 Mm-hmm.

00:27:48 Okay, and you have kids?

00:27:49 I do have.

00:27:49 How many kids?

00:27:50 I have three.

00:27:51 From the guy you divorced?

00:27:52 I was married twice.

00:27:53 Okay, two different fathers?

00:27:55 Mm-hmm.

00:27:55 Okay.

00:27:56 Got divorced in 2020, and now you're back in school?

00:27:59 Yes.

00:28:00 And then, so I guess once you get your master's degree, what is your plan?

00:28:04 To become a therapist, to work with grief and trauma.

00:28:08 And men's mental health is probably going to be my niche. 0.79

00:28:12 Men's mental health, okay.

00:28:13 Yeah, and spiritual intimacy.

00:28:16 Spiritual intimacy? Wow.

00:28:19 What?

00:28:20 What is that?

00:28:22 You know, helping men become more self-aware.

00:28:26 Of what?

00:28:27 Of their selves.

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00:28:58 a standard mission date rates may apply that's kind of a bit vague but self-aware you know

00:29:04 self-awareness but what do you mean by spiritual intimacy what does that mean knowing themselves

00:29:09 and understanding their emotions um understanding how uh that will work in a in a relationship with

00:29:16 a woman that that type of thing but is that necessarily related to the spirit yeah it's

00:29:25 Spiritual intimacy.

00:29:26 Spiritual intimacy.

00:29:27 You know, when you have a relationship with somebody, yeah, intimacy, it's not just about sex, but on a spiritual level.

00:29:35 Yeah.

00:29:36 What is spiritual?

00:29:38 What do we mean when we say spiritual?

00:29:39 I don't mean God.

00:29:42 Yeah, so what do we mean when we say spiritual?

00:29:44 Just when you have a spiritual person, self-aware, self-awareness, knowing themselves, understanding

00:29:54 how they feel, understanding why they react the way they do, that type of thing.

00:30:00 Is this a spiritual thing, though?

00:30:01 Yeah, it can be, yeah.

00:30:04 I'm not fully understanding the tie to spiritualism.

00:30:10 So spiritual intimacy.

00:30:12 Mm-hmm.

00:30:13 What separates spiritual intimacy from other forms of intimacy?

00:30:17 So it's being intimacy with somebody on more an emotional, spiritual level.

00:30:21 Well, okay, emotional, but what's the differentiation between spiritual and emotional?

00:30:26 What's the difference?

00:30:28 Spiritual and emotional?

00:30:29 Well, you said, okay, what spiritual, what does that mean?

00:30:34 It's kind of, it's sort of hard to explain.

00:30:36 It's more of a feeling.

00:30:38 It's just a feeling.

00:30:39 It's a feeling.

00:30:40 It's hard.

00:30:41 It's really, it's sort of like.

00:30:43 Wait, wait, wait, but I don't understand.

00:30:44 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:30:46 So if you're going to be a licensed therapist,

00:30:48 I would hope that you would be able to articulate

00:30:51 exactly what you're going to be charging your clients for

00:30:54 beyond just vibes, bro, just feelings, bro.

00:30:57 I will, I will.

00:30:58 No, no, no, but so when you say spiritual intimacy,

00:31:01 what does that mean?

00:31:02 So that's something that I'm interested in,

00:31:04 and then I'm...

00:31:05 Whether you're interested or not interested in it

00:31:07 is frankly irrelevant.

00:31:09 What does it mean?

00:31:10 Well, I'm actually exploring that right now as I'm going through school.

00:31:15 Okay, so you're...

00:31:15 I'm exploring all that.

00:31:17 Okay.

00:31:17 And it's very interesting to me.

00:31:19 So it's something that I want to kind of partake and hopefully maybe bring that into a practice that I'm going to be...

00:31:26 Spiritual intimacy.

00:31:27 Yeah.

00:31:29 I don't have a good answer on what that is, but...

00:31:32 Well, I can't tell you exactly what that looks like right now.

00:31:34 I can't.

00:31:35 I wish I could, but I can't.

00:31:37 Like, I'm a college dropout.

00:31:38 you and me have the same understanding of spiritual intimacy at this point

00:31:42 but you're currently in college getting a master's degree right

00:31:46 in clinical psychology but you said one of the things you're going to do

00:31:50 through the use of your clinical psychology degree or whatever

00:31:54 that's what I want to do yes but what

00:31:58 okay I mean I don't know if I'm going to get an answer on the spiritual intimacy

00:32:02 thing okay so

00:32:05 So how long are you going to do the work thing?

00:32:13 My master, how long do I plan on working in my life?

00:32:17 Is that what you're asking?

00:32:18 I guess.

00:32:20 Just indefinitely, I guess.

00:32:22 Yeah, pretty much.

00:32:22 Because most people, I guess, retire at 65,

00:32:24 although, of course, people certainly work beyond 65.

00:32:28 Retirement doesn't sound appealing to me, actually.

00:32:30 I think I'm going to try to help as many people as I can

00:32:33 until I can't anymore.

00:32:35 um and are you is this a public university or private university private private okay and do

00:32:42 you have scholarship or are you just paying for it scholarship you have scholarships just fafsa

00:32:46 right now yeah because there's a big beautiful bill how much is your tuition uh what the full

00:32:54 on full tuition for the whole program you just got your undergrad a new undergrad degree right

00:32:59 and now you're working on your master's how much was the undergrad um rough well see i already had

00:33:05 more than half of the credits, because I've been to three different, yeah, so we put them all

00:33:11 together, and so I only had to go two years. Okay, two years, but how much did the two years?

00:33:16 About 30, 35,000. 35,000, yeah. And then how much is the master's program going to be?

00:33:21 90. 90, yeah, it's about 90. Well, 90 plus the 30, you said? 30, 35, I believe. Okay, so 120,

00:33:30 125 thousand dollars yeah of and and this is student loan most of it not all of it yeah

00:33:39 it's you're taking on 125 thousand dollars of debt at six uh at 59

00:33:46 yeah um to work to work for myself but i mean are you gonna work to have my own

00:34:00 So maybe you work, what, 10 years?

00:34:02 You work until 70?

00:34:04 Maybe.

00:34:04 I mean, I have professors that are in their late 70s that just are getting their PhDs.

00:34:10 So it's really never too late to educate yourself.

00:34:13 Where are you getting the money from?

00:34:15 Just your, is it, not your, you're not paying it with savings.

00:34:19 You said you're getting student loans?

00:34:21 Right.

00:34:22 Yeah.

00:34:23 But I'm actually not able to get the loans that I had planned on.

00:34:27 So I'm going part-time right now because there's something called the big, beautiful bill that you guys probably know about.

00:34:33 So it cut all of the, like, graduate plus loans for the students.

00:34:38 What do you mean cut them?

00:34:40 Trump cut.

00:34:41 It's cut.

00:34:42 They're gone.

00:34:42 They're not available anymore.

00:34:45 And I couldn't get grandfathered in.

00:34:47 Yeah.

00:34:47 Because I was one semester behind the cutoff.

00:34:51 So, okay.

00:34:52 Yeah, so unfortunately.

00:34:53 So you're paying even more then.

00:34:55 Well, it'll just take me.

00:34:56 It might take me a little bit longer.

00:34:57 yeah why not just scoop ice cream I don't know all that money I like why not I feel like it

00:35:08 I don't know I mean you're the student loan debt that oh boy um but that's my plan and if

00:35:17 and then what would be your likely income yearly income once you get your and then wait after your

00:35:23 master's? Do you have to do further schooling? No, you have to do some, well, while you're in

00:35:27 school and a little bit after clinical hours. It's okay. You're 59. You have two more years

00:35:33 of your master's program. Can you start working at 61? I can work. You have to take a test to get

00:35:43 your, your license. This makes you get it, you know, I'm not sure. Look, Hey, look, people can

00:35:49 do whatever they want sort of i guess not really but um this is this is what is so honestly not

00:35:56 what you're doing necessarily i don't think it's wrong for somebody to want education but the

00:36:01 people that that green light like how and and they want to like the the democrats want to grant

00:36:09 um student loan forgiveness no offense to you i think it's like somewhat fiscally irresponsible

00:36:17 for a 59 year old to take on $125,000, $130,000 in student loan debt, like irresponsible to on

00:36:27 your part, but also irresponsible on the part of the lender. Like how the fuck are you going to 0.99

00:36:34 get your money back? Unless you're going to lift it a hundred, you're going to work till 90. 0.99

00:36:42 what the fuck sorry i spit a little bit there but um the lender is not gonna get this is why 0.97

00:36:49 no and it's really i mean you're kind of an outlier here this is why the education system 0.99

00:36:54 is completely fucked and like it's so expensive to go to school the lenders give the money to 0.58

00:36:59 anybody and it's like how are they gonna get the money back i don't know anyways whatever i don't 0.99

00:37:07 know nobody has any thoughts on that i do oh okay you want me i can talk i can say something yes

00:37:13 go ahead um honestly i feel like in today's society how things are with social media i

00:37:20 think that she can make over 100k in a year i think it's doable because just because you don't

00:37:25 understand what she does i really don't understand what she does so i personally would tune the hell

00:37:29 in if she tune in yeah on youtube like let's just say if somebody gives the consent to do a session

00:37:35 live and they're trying to learn about their

00:37:36 spirituality, sexuality

00:37:39 whatever it is that she's going to do

00:37:41 I would tune in because I don't know 1.00

00:37:43 what the hell is going on and you know she could become 0.98

00:37:45 this big person, you remember Talk Sex 0.99

00:37:47 with Susan, you remember that

00:37:48 I was probably too young to be watching it but I was

00:37:51 tuned in so I think she could do it

00:37:53 She wants to be a 1.00

00:37:55 private counselor 0.99

00:37:57 or whatever, I think she could do it

00:37:58 She's not trying to be a content creator to my understanding

00:38:01 But she might, she's still learning

00:38:02 It's not content but I have plans

00:38:05 of being a little bit bigger than I you know I I have plans look I do it's not I'm not thinking

00:38:12 small I'm thinking kind of pretty big I have no that's nice no seriously I have a niche and

00:38:19 listen lots of people believe in me and that's I'm good with that don't you believe in yourself

00:38:23 oh I do I you want to spend the last years of your life listening to people complain no I want

00:38:31 to help people I do I mean therapy is basically listening to other people complain about their

00:38:36 problems and certainly you look I guess you can help people through therapy but I don't know

00:38:42 it's just maybe I'm a I'm a doomer also by the way AI is gonna gigafuck like everyone um like

00:38:52 I don't know what like why would it got wouldn't it couldn't a guy just like hey chat GPT um

00:39:00 teach me spiritual intimacy blah blah blah they know they could i mean everybody's doing

00:39:06 that right now and there's apps and all that but but like but there are a lot of people

00:39:10 $30,000 of debt at 59. There are a lot of people that want a human they want a human

00:39:15 they need wine everybody every guy there's a lot there's a lot of people out there don't even like

00:39:19 therapy though that they need it because they don't understand what they need and they definitely 0.80

00:39:24 honestly like they don't want it from a woman oh we don't want therapy like well okay even if the 1.00

00:39:32 guy is naive even if a man is naive enough stupid enough to go get therapy from a woman uh most of 0.99

00:39:39 them probably ought to if they're even inclined to go to therapy which most most of it is a scam 1.00

00:39:45 uh they're probably should go to a man i i think most guys who are inclined to go to therapy will

00:39:51 be like i guess i'll see a chick but if i was going to go to therapy which no thank you i would

00:39:58 go to a dude so i feel i don't know i don't know i don't know i feel like these days men especially

00:40:06 like people in your scenario and stuff um clavicular need like an og woman finance like

00:40:14 not finance like just an advisor to like you know watch out for the chicks is what they need 0.87

00:40:19 yeah yeah there's just too much of this and not enough um no first off the guy first off by the

00:40:28 way don't ever fucking compare me to clavicular no no no i'm saying i'm not we are completely

00:40:33 indifferent no you have great audiences both of you have very very large i don't even want to be 0.93

00:40:37 in the same sentence okay i don't know aim but i'm just saying that you guys are both really large

00:40:43 online and everybody knows you guys so i think that people in your guys's situations and positions

00:40:50 it would be beneficial maybe so you have an awesome female assistant over there she doesn't

00:40:55 give me therapy maybe maybe she doesn't give me therapy in her own way yeah she's she's very nice 0.88

00:41:00 and easygoing no actually actually i got to see a therapist because of no i don't believe that

00:41:07 i do not believe that secretly i've actually been in therapy oh my god the girl who works

00:41:12 for me it's just it's like oh she stresses me out no i'm just kidding no way yeah so actually

00:41:18 it's completely contradictory but um just kidding we love tiffany we love tiffany but um that's what 0.69

00:41:26 i'm getting at just like a solid the introverted korean woman is that she's giving me therapy

00:41:32 well i'm not saying she's giving you therapy but she's she came out and she was very professional 0.99

00:41:38 like when you were doing other things she came in and handled things with the women right what

00:41:44 would that have to do with therapy oh i didn't say therapy i said an advisor yeah there's you know

00:41:49 when i go to a restaurant the the hostess is also very um accommodating and hospitable yeah maybe i

00:41:57 should i should go to denny's and go hit up the the hostess for a little therapy you're on a

00:42:04 different red lobster you're on a different level lobster maybe i could check out waffle house

00:42:09 waffle where are their hostesses you are way above all of that uh not denny's chili's there's often

00:42:16 a hostess hostesses just see people they don't they're they're not they don't have 30 years or 1.00

00:42:21 40 years of life experience that could maybe help out i'm not not to be a massive jerk and asshole 1.00

00:42:29 and crush your dreams or whatever. 1.00

00:42:32 That's okay, you're not.

00:42:33 I just...

00:42:35 Don't get it.

00:42:36 College, master's degree.

00:42:38 You'll be done with your master's at 61.

00:42:42 Just go on a beach somewhere and enjoy life.

00:42:46 You've got bills to pay.

00:42:47 Well, if I come across a wealthy man

00:42:50 that wants to take me away like that,

00:42:51 maybe that will happen.

00:42:53 But I have to take care of myself. 1.00

00:42:55 I'm not going to pay that woman. 1.00

00:42:56 You've got $130.

00:42:56 But you understand, this is a stillborn business model, the one that you just represented.

00:43:03 It's stillborn.

00:43:03 She said stillborn.

00:43:04 I don't want to, you know, poop on your parade.

00:43:07 Oh, no, that's okay.

00:43:08 I know what I'm doing.

00:43:08 But it is a stillborn business model.

00:43:10 What does that mean?

00:43:11 Because it's not good.

00:43:12 Before it's born, it's not going to work, the one that she proposed.

00:43:16 Because of AI or?

00:43:18 No, not because of AI.

00:43:19 Because first of all, you have to know whether men want to go and do what she proposes.

00:43:24 This is really something like really obscure that nobody can define.

00:43:31 She can define it herself.

00:43:34 She goes into college instead of investing money, for example, into real estate or buying something that she can actually make money with.

00:43:41 She spends money on, quote, unquote, education that's nowhere to apply.

00:43:46 You can't apply it.

00:43:48 It's just because I want it, it doesn't mean that people will want it.

00:43:53 if i like it it doesn't mean that people will come to me to my practice it just doesn't work

00:44:00 this way correct correct i know i know she knows i know it is correct hey can we get her one of the

00:44:08 little russia hats do you want to wear one of the russia hats no i got like one no no no okay um

00:44:16 But I'm not trying to be a dream crusher.

00:44:20 I don't know.

00:44:21 $130,000 in student loan debt.

00:44:25 Anyways, whatever.

00:44:27 So it's fair to say you won't be hiring her for any services.

00:44:33 Is that where we're at?

00:44:34 No, but that would apply basically to any therapist.

00:44:37 Nobody.

00:44:38 That would apply to any therapist.

00:44:40 I have dozens of friends right now who are in my age group,

00:44:44 and they're all becoming therapists.

00:44:45 and they're all actually doing well.

00:44:48 Wait, wait, wait.

00:44:49 How can they simultaneously becoming therapists

00:44:53 and be doing, if they're not yet therapists?

00:44:55 I'm going to school.

00:44:56 I've been going to school with a few people.

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00:45:32 yes uh-huh and yes there's a lot i know there's a big group of people that are in my age group yeah

00:45:38 so um it's not impossible they're all making it happen um look i don't know you know i've done a

00:45:45 I've done a lot of things in my life that are really, really interesting and probably very far-fetched, but I've done them.

00:45:50 Look, as a financial advisor, I'm not a financial advisor.

00:45:57 I would tell someone, first off, I would tell an 18-year-old, which would arguably be the best time for them to go to college.

00:46:09 I would tell them it's ill-advised to take on $130,000 of student loan debt.

00:46:15 You, on the other hand, I mean, you'll be 61 by the time you finish your master's.

00:46:19 The reason why I'm mentioning the age component is your runway to, what's the right word, to exploit your education to generate money, your runway is limited.

00:46:35 Right.

00:46:35 in the sense like okay somebody's 18 and they finish college at 25 or even younger they have

00:46:41 30 40 50 60 years uh maybe 60s long but yeah well whereas i mean how long do you genuinely

00:46:49 envision yourself working i would say 130 000 could be better spent on other things i don't

00:46:57 know anyways whatever okay all right introduce yourself please i'm terese a lot of people call

00:47:04 me Prettier. That's my stage name. What's your stage name? Prettier. Prettier. I do music. I'm also

00:47:10 Prettier. Yeah. That's nice. I'm also, well, I'm 37. I'm from St. Louis. I live in Atlanta. I'm a

00:47:17 film director, so I shoot music videos. I direct music videos, short films. I also have a podcast

00:47:24 called Boxed In. The film company I work for is Wicked Films. That's my boyfriend. We own our

00:47:30 companies together okay i also do a and i work so i get artists uh signed to labels and stuff so if

00:47:36 y'all know like who glorilla is we've done music videos for like sexy red a lot of people that

00:47:42 y'all might know uh age 37 uh any college or anything like that yes so i went to flow valley

00:47:50 college in st louis and then i also went to trade school called batterite for cosmetology so i did

00:47:56 here alongside working for a marketing company called Thrive, formerly known as The Real Yellow

00:48:02 Pages. I worked there for about seven years. I was doing that full-time before I got into film,

00:48:08 but I was really good in sales. I went on all the CEO trips. Yeah, so I did that.

00:48:15 And you said your stage name is Prettier.

00:48:17 Mm-hmm.

00:48:18 So I'm an artist name.

00:48:19 Artist name.

00:48:20 Mm-hmm.

00:48:20 What is the, what's the background there?

00:48:27 Like if somebody had a stage name of Ice Cold.

00:48:31 Yeah.

00:48:32 Because they're cold.

00:48:33 Because they're cold.

00:48:34 Why Prettier?

00:48:36 Well, I mean, just growing up, people always told me I was pretty.

00:48:39 And then, so when I started dating my man that I'm with now, we dated, we met in 2020.

00:48:45 So I had dreadlocks, right?

00:48:50 So I met him right before I locked my hair up.

00:48:54 I had, like, long locks.

00:48:56 And he was just like, you're so much prettier with the locks.

00:48:59 And then I was like, I released my first song, and he was like, that should be your artist name.

00:49:04 And it was already my Instagram name.

00:49:06 So I just kept it and went with it.

00:49:08 Okay.

00:49:08 All right.

00:49:09 Okay. What about you?

00:49:11 I am Jenny, and I am originally from Mississippi.

00:49:15 We picked up our family and moved to Tempe, Arizona, and that is where we reside right now.

00:49:22 I work for the state of Arizona.

00:49:24 I have a communications degree and a minor in biblical studies.

00:49:29 I was accepted to GCU for a master's degree, and I've passed on that.

00:49:35 Not going to rack up any more debt.

00:49:37 if it can lend me a house and mississippi college is a private college so okay uh and uh age oh i

00:49:48 am 48 48 okay all right that is the uh panel that's the panel we're going to go around the

00:49:54 table once more what is your relationship status i'm single single uh for how long four years

00:50:02 four years longest relationship um maybe like a year and a half just one relationship just that

00:50:07 year and a half just one relationship okay you've never had any other boyfriends um nothing

00:50:13 significant no uh so you've only told one guy you love him correct not two i mean i love my brother

00:50:22 too well just romantically speaking well you love your brother romantically no not romantically oh

00:50:28 okay but he's a man and i've told him i love him okay loophole i guess um so you've been single for

00:50:34 four years so your 1.5 year relationship ended four years ago yes okay in the four-year period

00:50:39 have there been any guys in the picture I mean I dated what I feel like are a thousand people but

00:50:44 thousand people not really but yeah it feels like I dated every kind of man out there every

00:50:49 kind of man yeah terrorists okay never mind but yeah it feels like a diverse group women date

00:50:55 terrorists i mean not to my knowledge not to your knowledge no okay um so when you say you've dated

00:51:05 now i know you're you're doing hyperbole a thousand men yes let's narrow down that what

00:51:13 you think the actual number is in the last four years sure um i mean like i would say a hundred

00:51:19 100 is maybe 100 dates in four years 100 different men yeah 100 men yes more than 100 dates but 100

00:51:28 different and then how many so okay and that's a first date right some some of them didn't go

00:51:33 beyond the first date most of them no most of them yeah how many of them went second date

00:51:37 oh maybe 20 20 how many went third date maybe 10 maybe 10 okay now um

00:51:49 you've been in LA for a month and a half any and you live in Paris but then you're originally from

00:51:59 Ireland are you going back to Paris or are you gonna go back to Ireland when you're I'm never

00:52:04 going back to ireland i'm going back to paris why are you never going back to ireland just not for me

00:52:09 that's where you're from that's your homeland and i spent like 22 23 years there and i just

00:52:15 never connected to it it's got a beautiful countryside it's very green very green what's

00:52:19 wrong with ireland i can't live just for the grass so what's wrong what's wrong with ireland

00:52:23 um it's just you know the culture is just not for me i thought culture yeah to which you're a part

00:52:28 of as an Irish woman sure I mean but it's just not something I really enjoy in the same I just 0.72

00:52:35 feel like I'm not a good Irish person you're not a good Irish yeah I'm not I've never just had that

00:52:41 natural bond with people and you know there's I don't know there's a lot of reasons but I always

00:52:47 thought that the French be more for me and now I don't necessarily think that but uh I still love

00:52:52 Paris just for the beauty of it all and the opportunities and everything so uh what what is

00:52:57 your contention with the irish or ireland um i suppose it was more back like back then when i

00:53:05 moved but i don't think it as much now but i just felt like um it felt like i lived in a very small

00:53:11 town i lived in like i suppose a medium-sized city but um everybody felt like they had the

00:53:16 same mindset there wasn't a lot of diversity i prefer people who are ambitious and look for

00:53:21 new things and new opportunities and want to try and you know see those things in life and i felt

00:53:26 like everybody liked their one way of living and they were happy where they were and judged me for

00:53:32 ever wanting more. Well, I mean, so you lived in a small city. Well, it's the second city of Ireland.

00:53:38 So it's not that Cork in the south. Okay. And so the other one's what, Dublin? Yes.

00:53:44 Wait, there's, hold on. There's like two, this is going to sound really retarded. There's like 0.98

00:53:47 two Ireland's, right? Yeah. I mean, there's the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Yeah. 0.91

00:53:53 Which is, what's the main city?

00:53:55 Wait, wait, wait.

00:53:56 Belfast.

00:53:57 It was the tip of my tongue.

00:54:00 Okay, so not a fan?

00:54:04 Of Belfast?

00:54:05 Of Dublin.

00:54:06 Oh, Dublin.

00:54:07 I mean, Dublin's just a bigger quirk.

00:54:10 And I mean, I actually think quirk has more soul.

00:54:12 Yeah.

00:54:12 Okay.

00:54:13 All right, so you're in Paris.

00:54:16 So you did some dating in Ireland, did some dating in Paris.

00:54:19 I did no dating in Ireland.

00:54:21 What do you mean, no dating?

00:54:21 I mean, I had one boyfriend.

00:54:23 Was that the 1.5-year?

00:54:25 Yes. 0.64

00:54:25 He was Irish. 0.99

00:54:26 He was not Irish.

00:54:27 He was Polish. 0.73

00:54:28 Okay.

00:54:29 So I was never about Irish guys.

00:54:32 All right.

00:54:32 I know lots of American women like me. 1.00

00:54:34 When did you move to Paris or France, I guess? 0.99

00:54:36 So four years ago.

00:54:37 Four years ago.

00:54:37 Wait, so did you break up with him because you were moving?

00:54:42 No, we broke up, and I always knew in the back of my mind I would move to Paris,

00:54:46 so I was living with him and everything, and working in the same place too.

00:54:50 Therefore, I felt like my whole life kind of exploded,

00:54:53 so I took the opportunity to finally move.

00:54:55 Okay, and so you did a bunch of dating in Paris.

00:55:00 You said in the four years, you dated 100 different men.

00:55:05 You've been in L.A. for a month and a half, I think I was asking.

00:55:08 Have you done any dating in L.A.?

00:55:10 Yeah, I've gone on a few dates.

00:55:11 How many different?

00:55:12 So you've been here for a month and a half,

00:55:13 so I'm sure it's pretty fresh in the memory.

00:55:17 How many different men have you dated?

00:55:19 In L.A.?

00:55:20 Or, like, met up with in L.A.?

00:55:22 I think three or four.

00:55:25 And how do you typically meet them?

00:55:26 Dating apps?

00:55:27 Yeah.

00:55:27 So you're on what, Hinge?

00:55:29 Just Hinge, yeah.

00:55:30 Just Hinge.

00:55:31 Do you ever meet them at bars or clubs or anything like that?

00:55:33 I mean, I meet people in these places, and, you know, I meet people on the street even.

00:55:37 Sometimes people just ask you out on the street.

00:55:39 That happens a lot.

00:55:40 Happens a lot.

00:55:41 But I think out of everyone who's ever asked me out, like, in real life, if you will, I

00:55:45 think I've gone on, like, one or two dates.

00:55:47 so mostly uh online dating mostly dating apps yeah so in paris you use hinge yeah everywhere

00:55:55 okay and so a hundred men four years what was the longest period of time you dated any guy

00:56:04 in that four-year period um maybe like a month one month yeah a hundred so just to be clear

00:56:12 Four years, a hundred men.

00:56:15 Sure.

00:56:16 The, all those handsome men, Parisian men, whatever.

00:56:22 They're not that handsome.

00:56:23 That's, okay, that's largely the problem, I think.

00:56:26 They're not good looking enough is the problem.

00:56:28 Well, it's one of them, it's one of them, yeah.

00:56:31 A hundred men, though.

00:56:32 A hundred men, and, well, Paris is a very international city,

00:56:36 so there's opportunity to date a whole diversity of people.

00:56:42 I mean, you couldn't make it past a month.

00:56:44 Well, first of all, it's not that diverse when it comes to men. 0.78

00:56:47 There are a lot of foreign women in Paris because girls buy into the dream a lot more than men and the salaries are not that good. 0.99

00:56:52 Therefore, there's not enough reasons. 1.00

00:56:54 There's way more. 0.99

00:56:54 Well, if we're talking about like immigrants, there's way more male immigrants in Paris than there are women immigrants. 0.87

00:57:01 Well, I don't I don't need a huge amount of immigrants, though, but sure. 1.00

00:57:05 Like illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:57:06 Perhaps you don't want to date them. 1.00

00:57:08 But not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that.

00:57:11 But, okay, so what was the problem?

00:57:16 A hundred men, none of them got past a month.

00:57:18 What was the problem?

00:57:21 Well, I think largely I hate inconsistency.

00:57:25 And I feel like people are so unreliable nowadays.

00:57:27 And this hot and cold behavior, I'm not into it for a second.

00:57:30 And I'm not willing to, you know, stick around and wait for people to act appropriately.

00:57:35 What do you mean by act appropriately?

00:57:38 Like if you say you want to see me again,

00:57:40 if you say you want to meet up a certain time place whatever uh do it don't just come up with 0.52

00:57:44 stupid excuses like someone has a party to go to I'm sure you know um so I'm just I'm not into that 0.86

00:57:50 and I think men because of the dating app culture find women to be sort of disposable so if I'm not 1.00

00:57:56 going to just sit around and look pretty and be easygoing all the time they move on to the next

00:58:00 well here's the thing though um

00:58:03 how do i best frame this hmm all my standards are too high

00:58:11 uh so you're saying that uh this unpredictability or this change in behavior

00:58:20 is it after you sleep with them um i don't think it revolves around that no

00:58:27 well that doesn't answer the question though you don't think it revolves around that but how could 0.94

00:58:32 But do you sleep, but hold on, do you have sex with these men, and then? 0.52

00:58:39 I mean, I don't know how to answer that. 0.64

00:58:43 I mean, of course, in some situations, yes.

00:58:45 Of the 100 men that you've gone on dates with in the past four years, how many of them did you sleep with?

00:58:52 Well, I'm not going to answer that question, but.

00:58:53 Why not?

00:58:54 Because it's private.

00:58:56 You're on a dating discussion podcast.

00:58:58 Yeah, I know, but it's not a bad number, but I'm just not going to say the number.

00:59:01 But, I mean, I don't think it's directly linked to that at all.

00:59:04 In some cases, maybe it was.

00:59:06 In some cases, it definitely wasn't because they didn't.

00:59:08 But I just think men come on very strong and they're full of compliments,

00:59:12 especially French men and with all this flowery language.

00:59:15 And, yeah, and then they just all of a sudden disappear

00:59:19 or all of a sudden they're too busy or all of a sudden whatever.

00:59:22 Okay, just curious, though.

00:59:24 You're not willing to answer the question?

00:59:26 Mm-mm.

00:59:27 Okay, so 100 dates.

00:59:30 So how about this?

00:59:31 How long have you been celibate?

00:59:32 Like a year.

00:59:33 You haven't had sex in a year? 0.65

00:59:35 Mm-hmm. 0.88

00:59:36 Not some guy out in L.A. that...

00:59:38 No, why would I?

00:59:39 Why not?

00:59:41 Because there's no reason to.

00:59:42 I want a guy who's committed to me and is willing to stick around and build something.

00:59:45 Hold on.

00:59:47 But you haven't been celibate for four years.

00:59:50 No.

00:59:52 I'm not a virgin.

00:59:53 Well, sure, but you said in the past four years, the longest period of time you've dated

00:59:58 the guy was one month and so you say why would i waste my time in la or with even these guys in

01:00:04 paris well i don't mean like actual time i mean like if there was a strong enough connection i'm

01:00:09 not saying that you know a certain amount of time is needed necessarily but you don't have

01:00:13 apprehension with sleeping with a guy relatively quickly what's quickly first date second date

01:00:19 third date i wouldn't do it quickly now but i don't judge people who have and i have but i was

01:00:26 never really about it what do you mean you weren't about it like you it's not something that was ever

01:00:31 a common occurrence for me at all but you've done it in the past four years yes in the past four

01:00:36 years i mean certainly if you've the longest period of time you've seen a guy was one month

01:00:41 and you've been sexually active to some degree in the past four years then i would imagine you've

01:00:46 had sex quickly i wouldn't define it as quickly but how would you define it the appropriate amount

01:00:54 of time. The appropriate amount of time. When you think you're moving into a relationship with

01:00:57 someone, I think it's okay. Now I would be, I'm just saying my standards have increased with time

01:01:01 around that. So I'm more particular. So just to be clear, just so I understand correctly,

01:01:06 as you've gained experience, as you've gotten older, as you've slept with more men,

01:01:13 your standards have increased. My standards around who I would sleep with have increased,

01:01:20 yes well yeah who i mean they were all they were always high to be honest with you but

01:01:24 even more so when you say your standards were always high like i always wanted to wait for

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01:01:59 apply you know never slept with anybody anybody as a teenager or anything like that i told you

01:02:04 i didn't date any irish guys so i really like to try and wait for the right person where there's

01:02:09 that emotional and chemical connection chemical did you say chemical connection like that chemical

01:02:16 thing what chemical thing oxytocin is that what she's talking about yeah but you know you could

01:02:22 be like attracted to someone without being like really attracted to them or you could but no what

01:02:26 i'm trying to say is you could find them attractive but not be really attracted to them

01:02:29 you know so it's like the difference in between those things sometimes you know out of a hundred

01:02:35 people you might have that one person that you just have this inexplicable connection with and

01:02:38 this is is this usually a looks thing um i think it's a combination of things i think it's mannerisms

01:02:43 I think it's looks, I think it's personality, I think it's the way they're treating you

01:02:47 and, you know, everything.

01:02:49 All right.

01:02:51 Hmm.

01:02:53 Well, I guess my confusion is you said you have gone on three to four dates with three

01:03:00 to four, or well, you've gone out while in L.A., you've been here for a month and a half

01:03:04 with three to four different men.

01:03:06 Do I have that correct?

01:03:08 Yeah.

01:03:09 Why?

01:03:10 Well, I haven't been in L.A. for a month and a half, but yes, let's say a month, sure,

01:03:12 whatever.

01:03:13 A month.

01:03:13 Um, cause you, didn't you just say that you felt it would be somewhat pointless to, I,

01:03:22 I recall you hinting at or alluding to something being pointless.

01:03:27 Oh, well, I don't think, uh, finding someone that I have a connection here would be pointless.

01:03:31 Like I would be willing to travel and do all that.

01:03:34 It doesn't have to be a super like, you know, conventional dynamic.

01:03:39 Okay.

01:03:40 Cause I'm more about the connection.

01:03:42 Um, I don't know.

01:03:43 Maybe I'm misrecalling.

01:03:45 You said something about something.

01:03:47 Maybe it was like hooking up with guys out here or being pornless or something.

01:03:50 Yeah, I have no interest in like super casual dynamics at all.

01:03:53 But you're only here for a short period of time.

01:03:56 I know, and I make that clear to anybody I go on a date with.

01:03:58 But it's like, you know, let's see if there's that spark.

01:04:01 You know, I guess it's sort of like looking for that fairy tale, even though I don't really believe in it.

01:04:06 But it's just being open to who knows, maybe my husband lives here and seeing if that happens.

01:04:11 because i always felt drawn to this place and drawn to different places in america so you never

01:04:16 know and i'm so sick of frenchmen i'm not doing that anymore one thing i always found confusing

01:04:21 when i was doing online dating many years well not maybe not many years ago but i've been off

01:04:29 the dating apps for three or four years at this point is occasionally you'd have women who were

01:04:34 in town for a week, a couple days, whatever. And I always found it a bit of a head scratcher.

01:04:43 The only option here is short term. Why else would you be on a dating app? Now, of course,

01:04:51 it could be the case that she just wasn't that into you and she would have fucked a hotter guy. 1.00

01:04:55 But I always found it a bit of a head scratcher. It's like, why are you going on dates when you 0.99

01:05:01 live across the country the only thing we really can do is fuck like oh we're gonna we're gonna 0.99

01:05:09 be long distance well we should fuck and then we can be long distance but what's the point of just 0.99

01:05:13 going on dates if you're traveling i doesn't make sense to me no i mean i understand but i just want 0.96

01:05:21 to see what happens and i like i said i make it clear to the people that i'm not around for long

01:05:25 necessarily no sex you haven't had sex with any of the guys while you're here absolutely not no 0.97

01:05:30 Handjobs? 0.98

01:05:30 No, no, they haven't kissed them or anything. 0.97

01:05:32 No kisses?

01:05:33 No.

01:05:33 What's the point?

01:05:35 They're not for me.

01:05:36 They're getting you dinner?

01:05:37 No.

01:05:37 It was like literally coffee.

01:05:39 It's terrible here.

01:05:41 Just what's the, I don't know.

01:05:43 What's the point?

01:05:44 But what if that's my person and I never gave it a shot?

01:05:47 If I don't put myself out, I'll never meet anyone out there in the world, you know?

01:05:51 I guess.

01:05:52 Okay.

01:05:52 It's just being hopeful.

01:05:54 Really quick, what are your high standards?

01:05:56 My high standards, like physical and otherwise?

01:05:59 Sure.

01:06:00 I like, generally speaking, tall men.

01:06:02 How tall?

01:06:02 So I think I put down 5'10", and I think that's reasonable.

01:06:05 But that's if they're really 5'10".

01:06:06 If they're lying about that, I can't, you know.

01:06:09 Because a lot of the time you show up to dates and they're actually shorter, as we know.

01:06:12 And I'm almost always wearing some sort of heel.

01:06:14 So then all of a sudden we're the same height.

01:06:17 Happens all the time.

01:06:18 So ideally a taller guy who has confidence.

01:06:22 And I mean, I'm really not that particular.

01:06:25 Just, you know, a tall guy with confidence who's willing to treat me.

01:06:30 with kindness and respect. Okay. Um, tall guy with confidence, who's willing to treat you with

01:06:36 respect. Yeah. Like consistency and, you know, okay. Um, and you're saying none of the hundred

01:06:45 men that you've dated in the past four years were tall, confident or consistent. Uh, I think the

01:06:53 last one's the problem, the consistency, and I'm super sensitive to it. So yeah, maybe they're,

01:06:58 maybe they're tall, maybe they're great looking, maybe they're kind, maybe we have a laugh,

01:07:01 but it just seems like it doesn't last long. But okay. And by the way, this number could be higher

01:07:07 than a hundred. Is that? Yeah. I haven't counted. Like how frequently, if you had to, maybe a better

01:07:13 way to think about it is, um, do you go on like one or two dates a week on average? No, maybe that's

01:07:22 a lot maybe a month but i also have taken breaks so wait one or two per month okay it depends i've

01:07:31 gone through times where i'm all about it i'm really eager to go on dates and meet people and

01:07:35 then maybe i'll do one a week but then i've also gone through periods where i get so pissed off

01:07:39 that i take you know three four months off dating and delete the apps and do all that have you ever

01:07:44 gone on two dates in one day or night yeah i think i have huh yes uh three dates no not three dates

01:07:52 Two dates, though.

01:07:53 Like maybe like a lunch date and a dinner date.

01:07:54 Lunch date, dinner date.

01:07:55 Did the guy pay for her?

01:07:58 Probably, yeah.

01:07:59 They'd still pay. 1.00

01:08:01 Yeah, I think if a woman's going to go on, honestly, if a woman goes on two dates in a day, night, day, whatever, 1.00

01:08:09 neither of them have to pay. 0.97

01:08:11 That's my philosophy.

01:08:13 What do you mean?

01:08:15 You just walk out of the restaurant?

01:08:17 No, I mean, you pay for your own food, but you go, essentially what I'm saying is you split the bill.

01:08:21 how do you know that the guy didn't go on two or three as well because they'll do as many as they

01:08:26 can get yeah well even if the guy did there's no obligation on women to pay for men so um you could

01:08:33 argue don't sleep with the guy don't take the guy if that's your if that's a deal breaker for you 0.88

01:08:39 but the treatment of okay the guy's gonna pay on the day because that's chivalrous 0.97

01:08:45 like you're moving shifty as fuck if you're going on two dates in a day so but i don't ask them to 0.64

01:08:50 pay, they just do. No, I, so I understand that, uh, despite how completely degenerate and modern 0.99

01:08:57 and feminist women are today, men still do the thing that women prefer because it's effective. 0.93

01:09:03 Um, men, men are, men do what works. And even if you're dating a liberal soy retarded leftist 0.99

01:09:15 progressive modern feminist woman uh it's still typically more effective to pay for the date 0.93

01:09:23 than to not um it's just video game term meta most effective tactics available

01:09:30 so men will just do what's effective tactics for what exactly that's the agenda to get laid later

01:09:36 right so you're going to do what it's a video game term tactics is just simply yeah but it is

01:09:41 what it is so you come to you come with an agenda you're trying to suggest when i use the term

01:09:47 tactics like it's somehow nefarious no tactics is like just simply like women as a tactic wear

01:09:52 makeup to make themselves more physically attractive um i would actually argue that's

01:09:57 more nefarious and manipulative than men paying for dates which is like a adherence to uh 0.93

01:10:03 outdated social norms whereas like women strongly manipulate women through their use of artificial 0.82

01:10:10 enhancements can you open the door all the way please in any case though yeah the two dates 0.94

01:10:18 in a day that's I mean does anyone disagree with me on that I believe the guy obviously the woman

01:10:24 would probably lie or not tell them or just omit I actually have told them in some scenarios and

01:10:30 they don't care not that it happens often but then one's gonna go I any anyone disagree with

01:10:37 me here do you think men should still pay for the date even if uh you know even if the woman

01:10:42 goes on two dates in a day yeah if they want to date her yeah yeah and it and it takes us a long

01:10:47 time to get ready and let's face it it's a meal we feed ourselves three squares a day every day

01:10:52 so it's not like you're giving like hey come get this gold chunk you know it's a meal so

01:10:58 you know it's the least i mean i don't know what's it if if the date's going to be like 100

01:11:05 total for for both of you yeah um then perhaps you would really be interested in the girl that

01:11:12 you're going out with if you know that the that the meal even if it's like oh sorry go ahead yeah

01:11:17 so so if you really have an attractive attraction to the girl and you think there's some chemistry

01:11:22 there then maybe you'll take her to a steakhouse or something but if you i feel like some guys um

01:11:28 i've had a guy tell me okay pick out of these three restaurants i'm like what you know so

01:11:34 i don't know they kind of put you on boxes so i don't know but i i've never been on two or three

01:11:41 so you you agree that the guy open door please you agree just keep an eye on it just keep it

01:11:47 perma open please you think that the man should pay on the uh pay on the date knowing that the

01:11:55 woman's been on two dates well if he's told ahead of time like in in a chat no it's not well right 1.00

01:12:02 Most women are not going to be honest about how they move. 1.00

01:12:05 How does the girl know that he hasn't been on another date? 1.00

01:12:07 There's no expectation on women to do fuck all on a date. 1.00

01:12:10 Yeah, you're expected to show up looking pretty and be engaging and participate. 1.00

01:12:14 No, men are just showing up in their clothes that they wore earlier that day.

01:12:16 That's completely bogus.

01:12:17 Men definitely prep for dates. 1.00

01:12:19 That aside, though, there's no financial obligation on women. 0.99

01:12:23 Except everything that it has to get ready. 1.00

01:12:26 One, we don't ask you to do that shit. 0.99

01:12:28 We don't ask you to pay. 1.00

01:12:29 I don't ask them to pay. 0.99

01:12:30 what would you care if somebody came in like a like a bonnet and like their pjs and shit because 0.98

01:12:36 i love walking around like that and i could totally come to lunch like that but you'd be 0.98

01:12:40 embarrassed right you'd be like no this is i think it's fine to look normally presentable but um like 0.99

01:12:46 all that extra shit that women do like your fake nails men don't give a shit about your fake nails 0.99

01:12:51 okay um all that other stuff also women say oh well i this this this container of foundation 1.00

01:12:59 and this container of blah, blah, whatever the fuck you guys put on your face, 0.99

01:13:04 the paint, this entire container costs $100, 0.99

01:13:10 so you should pay for the date. 0.97

01:13:11 But you've got to factor in, okay, this is a fucking Grether's pastille thing. 0.96

01:13:16 There's 20 pastilles in here. 0.98

01:13:19 Say this costs $30 for the entire box.

01:13:24 I wouldn't then say, okay, you owe me $30.

01:13:27 If I only take one past steel for the date, so to speak, you would have to divide by 30 to determine the per-use cost. 1.00

01:13:41 So women do this like retarded girl math where it's like, well, all my makeup collectively costs $500. 0.99

01:13:46 So that's, well, no, okay. 1.00

01:13:47 If you can get 300 uses out of your little fucking mascara container, then you would have to divide accordingly. 0.99

01:13:54 It's not even about the makeup, though. 0.99

01:13:56 And I don't give a shit if guys don't like what I'm wearing because I live for me and I do things for me. 0.81

01:14:04 But my hands look less old with nails on. 0.95

01:14:09 So when I don't have nails on, I don't care what guys care about.

01:14:16 I wear what makes me comfortable. 1.00

01:14:18 No man has no, there's never been an instance in history where a woman was, excuse me, sir, want some pussy. 1.00

01:14:26 And then the guy checks her nails first is like, nah, bitch, actually, I changed my mind. 1.00

01:14:31 You're very true. 1.00

01:14:32 That's never happened. 0.99

01:14:32 Never in the history of pussy offering has a man rejected a pussy offer because she didn't have fake nails. 1.00

01:14:40 No, I know. 1.00

01:14:41 Guys will fucking exhaust. 0.99

01:14:42 Yes. 1.00

01:14:42 I've seen videos of guys fucking exhaust. 0.99

01:14:44 So we're doing this for ourselves. 0.99

01:14:46 Do you get that?

01:14:47 We're doing it for ourselves.

01:14:48 The men shouldn't have to pay for it.

01:14:50 Well, then don't ask them out, right?

01:14:53 Well, wait, wait.

01:14:53 Or just ahead of time say, hey, do you mind going 50-50?

01:14:57 And then that way the girl and the guy can say yes or no, right?

01:15:02 Because it's time. 1.00

01:15:03 And then we wear heels and our fucking back hurts and shit. 0.99

01:15:06 So if you want a girl to just, hey, let's be casual, wear your PJs, put your hair in a bun, don't wear any makeup. 1.00

01:15:13 That's not what we're arguing about. 0.62

01:15:15 Okay. 1.00

01:15:16 Is the argument because women invest in makeup and their hair and cosmetics? 1.00

01:15:20 It's the time. 1.00

01:15:21 And cosmetics.

01:15:22 It's everything. 1.00

01:15:23 sure because you and look i'm gonna go ahead and grant that women as compared to men probably 0.99

01:15:31 do i want to grant it fuck it i'll grant it probably spend more than men do when it comes 0.99

01:15:40 to how they show up to a date right right um however so and just to be clear just so i understand 1.00

01:15:48 your guys's position because of that because women have a higher expense threshold to go out

01:15:54 on dates i suppose that therefore men should pay for the date because women spend more getting

01:15:59 ready for the date is is that your position i don't think that's the position it's a combination

01:16:04 well i understand maybe there's other things like social norms or whatever but that's one

01:16:08 argument i'd hear however i think that particular argument where well we put on makeup and we do

01:16:14 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Therefore men should pay because we spend more. It's like, well, hold 0.63

01:16:17 on. If I can demonstrate that I spend more in some conceivable way, therefore the woman should pay 1.00

01:16:23 because let's say I should, let's say I'm taking a 20 year old who works at McDonald's who makes 1.00

01:16:32 $20 an hour. I show up in a Lamborghini. I show up with a Rolex. I show up with a suit. I show up

01:16:40 with a concealed carry

01:16:42 weapon. I show up with a firearm.

01:16:44 I show up with like a

01:16:46 not like a plastic gun.

01:16:49 Well, you know, it's

01:16:49 rubber, plastic, whatever.

01:16:52 It's like a nice gun.

01:16:54 It's not like a little $500 gun.

01:16:56 It's a $2,000 gun.

01:16:57 Yeah, you got a Glock, right?

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01:17:28 data rates may apply show up to the date yeah um and i make say i make millions of dollars a year

01:17:36 I spent more

01:17:38 Showing up for that date 1.00

01:17:40 So she should pay for the date

01:17:42 Well hold on

01:17:44 I spent more money getting ready for this date

01:17:46 Honestly I haven't heard anyone at the table

01:17:49 Say that oh because I spend

01:17:51 This amount of money on how I look

01:17:52 Well they slow

01:17:55 You know what I'm saying it has nothing to do with that

01:17:57 Just like she said she's on dating apps

01:17:59 Those men are on dating apps too

01:18:00 They like what they see

01:18:01 They want to take her on a date 0.99

01:18:03 So why would she show up looking crazy 1.00

01:18:06 when that's not the girl that I that I saw in the picture yeah and they ask I think that's

01:18:10 how she how she looks so I feel like there could be a man that takes a girl like you you don't

01:18:16 have any makeup you know say you do have your nails done but you know what I'm saying you 1.00

01:18:20 just naturally beautiful or whatever he might take you on a date and he's gonna pay because

01:18:24 that's just the like you said the social norm chivalry you know and I think some men have like

01:18:30 an ego thing like I'm gonna pay for a day because that's what I'm supposed to do because that's what

01:18:33 I can. But wait, wait, you mentioned chivalry. Now in your introduction, like, so you, you,

01:18:38 you also do OnlyFans. Is that correct? I do. Well, okay. I'm on OnlyFans. I don't do OnlyFans.

01:18:47 So what I mean by that is I had a lot of people that asked me, was I on OnlyFans? And I wasn't,

01:18:52 I just started like probably like a little less than a year ago. So, and my man was like, shit, 0.99

01:18:58 you look good. Just be on there. So like, I'm not, I don't do porn. I don't get naked. I don't do 0.99

01:19:02 anything so like have you ever sold uh sexual content no nothing sexual but you have an only 0.98

01:19:08 fans but it's not sexual so for example what do you post on there then shit me like let's just 0.99

01:19:13 say in this dress right i might turn to the side because i got a fat ass i got big hips 0.99

01:19:18 so i might turn to the side it don't matter can i go back to chivalry really fast let me let me 0.96

01:19:23 finish okay yeah let prettier finish please okay how dare you because i'm i'm gonna tell you what

01:19:30 people like to see me, right? They like to see like this dress. I'll turn to the side.

01:19:35 I might do a little wiggle. They like that. Blue jeans. There are people that just want to see me

01:19:41 in blue jeans. So I buy a lot of stuff from Fashion Nova. I'm a curvy woman. So they want

01:19:46 to see how the jeans fit. If I'm wearing a bikini, because if you go on my social media,

01:19:51 I don't really post. They want to see the ass. They do. They want to see the ass. So you know 0.99

01:19:55 that you're selling the ass. Now, do these men, do you message with them on OnlyFans? 0.99

01:20:01 I don't.

01:20:02 Who does?

01:20:04 I don't really talk to them. It's kind of like a-

01:20:06 Wait, wait. You said you don't. Who does?

01:20:08 Well, I'm saying other people that have OnlyFans, they probably talk to them. I hired a chatter.

01:20:12 I had a chatter one time, but I got rid of it because I didn't like how she was conversating 0.99

01:20:19 with them. Because I'm not a super sexual person or anything like that, and I don't

01:20:23 sell like sex content okay so all right yeah i have like you have like auto replies and stuff

01:20:29 like this so as soon as somebody subs like it'll just send like a message or whatever but

01:20:33 yeah i don't know you can't you you this is the thing right you can go to an ig model right now 0.67

01:20:39 right and you can see all the shit for free that i have on my only fans so it's like uh like you

01:20:45 have a paid subscription on youtube you said right so it's like you probably will post things on 0.54

01:20:49 youtube that other people could see for free but the people who pay a subscription on youtube they

01:20:53 could they could see it because they want to see you it's about they want to see me yeah but the

01:20:58 only fans has only fans has a reputation for being an adult content website so i think men will jump

01:21:05 to the conclusion uh you by the way a lot of people lie about the extent of what they put

01:21:10 post on only fans for various reasons i'm not saying that's necessarily the case for you but

01:21:15 women will even be full-blown prostitutes escorts come on the show and not even like kind of leave

01:21:23 that out i get so um not saying that you're an escort or prostitute but just just to give an 0.93

01:21:28 example of how sometimes people hold certain information yeah i mean y'all can sub right now

01:21:32 see i mean i'm from st louis i'm a finesser so i know exactly what somebody would look at me and

01:21:37 would think about i've never been what do you mean what do you mean by finesse i'm a finesser what's

01:21:41 the finesser. Okay the finesse move is me having only fans people a lot of people have preconceived

01:21:46 notions about me when they look at me they think I'm probably a stripper I've never I've been in

01:21:50 sales my whole life. No I would never think that. Some people have asked you know what I'm saying

01:21:54 like so if you see me like right now if I post this dress on my story and I post like my link 1.00

01:22:00 tree with my OF in there they're gonna go be like oh I could probably see her doing back shots or 1.00

01:22:04 something like that. No you're gonna be pissed. There are people have messaged me and said uh 1.00

01:22:09 you finessed me they're like damn like you was teased like yeah so my thing is okay so you're 0.99

01:22:14 taking advantage of the platform take advantage of the platform yeah so you're a hustler you're 0.98

01:22:18 finesser if there's a platform have you hustled in other ways like like what like you know obviously

01:22:24 you can finesse and hustle on of but have you hustled in the streets no i mean like you know

01:22:30 Nah.

01:22:31 In the streets.

01:22:32 In the streets.

01:22:33 In the streets. 1.00

01:22:34 Nah, I mean, shit. 1.00

01:22:35 I mean. 1.00

01:22:35 Shit. 1.00

01:22:36 What? 1.00

01:22:37 I mean, what do you, I guess it's.

01:22:39 Like, I don't know.

01:22:40 It could be scamming.

01:22:41 I'm not talking sex work.

01:22:43 I'm just talking straight scamming. 0.94

01:22:46 Finesseing.

01:22:47 Nah, because, honestly, I never had to do that.

01:22:49 You know, like.

01:22:50 All right.

01:22:50 But you're a finesser.

01:22:51 Yeah.

01:22:52 You're an OnlyFans finesser.

01:22:54 But the thing is, we can't keep telling people that because now they're not going to sub

01:22:57 to my OnlyFans. 0.97

01:22:58 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:22:59 Well, okay. 1.00

01:23:00 So, okay.

01:23:00 The reason I'm asking these questions is because we're talking about chivalry.

01:23:06 Who should count dates? 0.55

01:23:07 And it's like modern women, women in 2026 don't deserve chivalry. 1.00

01:23:13 You don't deserve your date to be paid for. 1.00

01:23:16 That's why we're not going out with people anymore.

01:23:19 Oh, whatever.

01:23:21 If you do OnlyFans or even if you don't do it,

01:23:24 like this doesn't just apply to the sex worker only flans.

01:23:28 Only flans.

01:23:29 Only flans. 0.99

01:23:29 Give me a cake or whatever the fuck that is 0.99

01:23:31 A planned cake 0.97

01:23:32 Even if you're just

01:23:34 I think if your politics are left

01:23:37 Or you're progressive, democrat, liberal 0.98

01:23:40 Or you're a feminist 1.00

01:23:41 Never should a date ever be paid for you 1.00

01:23:44 Ever

01:23:45 Ever

01:23:46 I mean I'm all for people doing what they want to do

01:23:49 So my thing is

01:23:51 If somebody asks me on a date

01:23:53 If I ask somebody on a date

01:23:56 I'm fully prepared to pay for the date

01:23:57 And I won't feel no type of way about it

01:23:58 You would feel a type of way. 1.00

01:24:00 I wouldn't fuck with you. 1.00

01:24:02 You wouldn't fuck with them? 1.00

01:24:03 We could be homies. 1.00

01:24:05 You're going to be the homeboy.

01:24:07 I thought you said you would...

01:24:09 I like my man.

01:24:11 I don't care what nobody does. 0.99

01:24:12 You'd still be cool, but you wouldn't fuck with them. 1.00

01:24:15 What's the difference between being cool with a motherfucker 1.00

01:24:17 and not fucking with a motherfucker? 1.00

01:24:20 If I fuck with you, you could be my little... 1.00

01:24:22 Boothin. 1.00

01:24:23 Yeah, you could be my little boo. 1.00

01:24:25 We can take things further.

01:24:28 But it's just everybody has

01:24:29 Their different standards that they look for

01:24:32 In certain people my standards are going to be different

01:24:34 From the next person so I like 0.97

01:24:36 A man it turns me on when a man 1.00

01:24:37 Pays for shit because I work hard as hell 1.00

01:24:40 You know what I'm saying like so 1.00

01:24:41 I work hard too yeah so if you

01:24:43 If I spend my money it's because I like

01:24:46 You and if I like you I'm tricking 1.00

01:24:48 You know what I'm saying like I'm buying shit 1.00

01:24:49 It's good for a woman to be a trick 1.00

01:24:50 The woman should be the trick 1.00

01:24:51 The woman should spend the money 1.00

01:24:54 I'm tricking off 1.00

01:24:54 i used to and that's where i want to circle back in my early 20s the guys that i really liked i

01:25:00 would buy the meal because i didn't want them to think that i was like taking advantage because i

01:25:05 really liked them but then i became in like the masculine role and they didn't it's like i took

01:25:12 away their mask like masculine role and then they didn't like me afterwards so then i had to switch

01:25:16 it like i let me get my feminine and let the man do it and so but now i'm just celibate i don't date

01:25:22 You got to do the balance.

01:25:24 You got to, it's a, it's a, it's a balance.

01:25:27 What's the balance?

01:25:27 Tell us. 1.00

01:25:28 The balance is, is you can still be masculine and she pays for everything. 1.00

01:25:33 No, that's beta shit. 0.99

01:25:35 Nope. 0.99

01:25:36 I mean, yeah, if she was, so yeah.

01:25:38 But me personally.

01:25:39 Wait, okay.

01:25:40 But here, really quick.

01:25:41 Going back to you.

01:25:41 Okay.

01:25:42 A hundred dates, four years, no boyfriend. 0.96

01:25:47 Where, shit, I had something on that. 0.99

01:25:50 High standards. 0.99

01:25:51 None of them worked out.

01:25:52 A hundred years, a hundred years, a hundred years, a hundred dates in four years.

01:25:59 And then we're talking, she went on two dates and then the guy still paid for it or whatever.

01:26:06 Yeah.

01:26:06 So I don't know.

01:26:07 I think, um, I guess just look, I'll just, what's wrong with you?

01:26:12 I would just be just paying.

01:26:13 Tell us what's wrong. 0.65

01:26:15 Bipolar?

01:26:16 No.

01:26:16 BPD?

01:26:17 I'd love for them to answer, you know, obviously they can't unless they're watching.

01:26:22 But, I mean, I think really it's just my standards.

01:26:25 I'm unrelentless in my standards, and men get fed up of this,

01:26:28 especially if I'm not into casual sex and anything like that.

01:26:31 They feel after a certain amount of time, I think,

01:26:33 that they're not getting anything out of it,

01:26:35 and they're not willing to play the long game. 0.97

01:26:38 That's the weed out.

01:26:39 Play the long game. 0.99

01:26:41 Yeah.

01:26:41 If you want to call it that.

01:26:42 But, again, you said you've been celibate for a year.

01:26:46 Sure.

01:26:47 Sure.

01:26:47 Yes.

01:26:48 So, wait, is it shorter than a year?

01:26:50 No, it's a year.

01:26:51 when was the date i'm not telling you that you wrote it down in a little journal yeah i'm sure

01:26:55 i'm sure it is there all right uh so anyways um look well here's here's another dilemma is

01:27:03 you make some men wait and other men get to hit right away no they all wait they all wait they

01:27:09 all they all have waited yes how long how long um like minimum you've never had like a one night

01:27:16 The first, the first, you, hold on.

01:27:18 The first, look, I'll admit it. 1.00

01:27:20 The first time I met a woman, I've had sex with her. 0.97

01:27:24 You've never, first time meeting a guy? 0.98

01:27:27 You've never gone and had sex with that man?

01:27:29 No.

01:27:30 Why is it okay for guys to do it? 1.00

01:27:33 But then if girls do it, it's like a. 1.00

01:27:36 Wait, hold on. 1.00

01:27:37 The sound effects. 0.72

01:27:39 Let's get the split.

01:27:40 Yeah, fix the split.

01:27:43 No, it's for, come on, fix the split.

01:27:46 you can be suspicious all you want

01:27:54 I'm looking you in the eyes

01:27:57 okay okay

01:28:04 all right I don't know um really really well I just feel like there would be nothing in it for

01:28:14 me why would i do that that's right but that's really just how i think i don't remember when it

01:28:19 was okay no not second day it would be dates in third date third date i'm not a third date real

01:28:25 kind of person but i can't tell you exactly uh but what's wrong with you though maybe we can

01:28:31 figure that out today no i just think that it's just are you what was your age again 27 oh that's

01:28:37 why you need a few more years and decades and then you'll be out of the fantasy of like

01:28:43 you know I just think it's you know you're hoping for this fantasy thing and in this

01:28:49 generation this day and age it's tough to get that and there's nothing wrong with wanting that

01:28:55 you know and because it's in our nature we're women so of course you know yeah but then I think

01:29:00 if I don't get close to what I want I would prefer to just be alone exactly I'm not afraid of that

01:29:04 so the peace is priceless right the freedom is priceless that's right exactly and that's great

01:29:09 that you know that early on but you know down the road um you know maybe the fantasy mindset

01:29:17 it kind of like goes away why are you on dating apps like why what's what's your issue with meeting

01:29:22 people in person oh what's um i mean i just don't ever really see some anyone that attractive i have

01:29:28 to what's your type wait you don't see anyone that attractive in person no california there's

01:29:35 lots of good looking people

01:29:37 well I mean this is actually

01:29:39 really illuminating and I think

01:29:41 we're going to zoom

01:29:43 in on what you just said

01:29:44 in person in Los Angeles

01:29:47 you don't see people

01:29:49 who are attractive

01:29:50 I mean okay I see

01:29:53 attractive people I don't find them

01:29:55 to be like attractive for me though like yes

01:29:57 I know objectively they're good looking people

01:29:59 like their vibe or energy or something

01:30:01 no you're talking about looks

01:30:02 maybe both well I guess if they had some sort of

01:30:05 a vibe that was really attractive to me then i would probably consider them people who i'm

01:30:08 attracted to but they don't so i think the problem is you're looking for true love on data apps if

01:30:14 if somebody's fine as hell and they're on a dating app something is wrong with them or they 0.99

01:30:19 trying to finesse you out some pussy so when you sit up here and go on these dates and then you 0.99

01:30:24 give them you give it up and then you wonder why they're being inconsistent because you you gave 0.99

01:30:28 them what they want now they on the on the date nap wait but hold on let's zoom in on the let's

01:30:33 zoom in on the you don't see attractive people thing this probably honestly you're probably

01:30:38 dating men like just to diagnose this without full knowledge sure you're like dating men outside of

01:30:44 your league that's why they're not willing to give you consistency because they just want to 1.00

01:30:48 fuck you and if you fuck great then goodbye and if you don't fuck okay great goodbye sure just 1.00

01:30:53 point blank no no sure but um i feel like i've also like i said dated all types of everybody 1.00

01:30:58 So, like, different, you know, age ranges, different ethnicities, backgrounds, jobs, etc.

01:31:03 So, that's, like, why I try to be very open-minded.

01:31:07 I don't really circle in on...

01:31:08 But, okay, four years single, 100 different men, longest period of time with any of those is one month.

01:31:18 if you after a hundred men you can't find one that at least does it enough for like

01:31:28 hey maybe it's not the guy you marry and look i understand you might attack that like okay well

01:31:34 whoever i want to date like has to be good enough for me to marry i would argue still though like

01:31:38 you can't find a relationship after a hundred dates you're either you're either operating

01:31:45 outside your league uh or you're like dating you're you're going on dates with men but you

01:31:54 believe you're outside their league and so you reject them but they're actually in your league

01:31:59 sure but i also just think um you know the nail in the coffin is always the consistency

01:32:06 so when something starts to go well they just drop out for whatever reasons and of course they

01:32:10 never give you the real reasons i don't and i don't know why that would be a problem anyways

01:32:15 is because we're not sharing the bed, are we?

01:32:16 Ha ha, you're trying to catch me.

01:32:17 Well, yeah, but I mean, I don't know.

01:32:21 Let's see.

01:32:24 Do you smell?

01:32:26 I don't know.

01:32:27 I didn't detect the smell.

01:32:28 I hope not.

01:32:28 I didn't detect the smell.

01:32:29 Yeah.

01:32:30 But I'm just trying to figure out what the problem could be

01:32:33 because you're saying you're interested in some of these dudes

01:32:37 and they're not showing up in the right way. 0.99

01:32:41 You're a good-looking gal. 1.00

01:32:42 I feel you know you some Parisian dudes would shack up with you what's the problem what's the

01:32:47 problem I don't know maybe aiming outside your league or maybe it's maybe right well but okay

01:32:55 hold on don't you think that that's a bit sometimes the problem is the other person 0.94

01:33:02 but after a hundred fuckers all right and I totally that's a lot of 100 dates no I understand 0.91

01:33:08 Yeah, and I analyze it a lot myself too 0.96

01:33:11 And I'm definitely open to evolving

01:33:13 And changing little things

01:33:14 She's young

01:33:15 She's too hopeful

01:33:17 She's hopeful, that's it

01:33:19 Have you asked somebody

01:33:20 Have you asked?

01:33:24 I mean, I think

01:33:25 Sure, over the years, I guess

01:33:26 What did they say?

01:33:28 Usually they just give me some excuses

01:33:30 To why they've been inconsistent

01:33:31 And if I really poke further

01:33:33 They'll just say something to the effect

01:33:36 Of my standards are too high

01:33:37 or I expect too much of them. 1.00

01:33:39 You should just become a nun, honestly. 1.00

01:33:40 I thought about it. 0.99

01:33:41 I think you have to join the nunnery.

01:33:43 I think it's over for you.

01:33:44 I'm okay with it.

01:33:45 It might be over.

01:33:46 No, it's not.

01:33:47 It's so over.

01:33:48 It's not over.

01:33:49 No, she's 27.

01:33:50 Same thing.

01:33:51 It's not.

01:33:52 But you're in your prime, girl.

01:33:53 27 is a prime age.

01:33:55 I think you need to stay off the date and a half.

01:33:56 I think you've got too many options, too.

01:33:57 I feel like you line these men up, you date them,

01:34:01 and then if they do something you don't like now,

01:34:03 you've got these other profiles, and you just go jump to the next.

01:34:06 I don't think you're giving them a real chance.

01:34:09 Yes.

01:34:10 Prettier is spot on.

01:34:12 Grass is greener.

01:34:13 You got so many options.

01:34:14 You got Pierre on Tuesday, and then you got Gautier on Thursday.

01:34:22 You're looking forward to Gautier when you're kicking it with Pierre.

01:34:25 Your mind's not in the moment.

01:34:27 Sounds like dudes.

01:34:27 You're distracted.

01:34:29 You're distracted.

01:34:30 All right.

01:34:31 Okay. 1.00

01:34:31 You're eating escargot one day and a fucking baguette the next. 0.99

01:34:35 you're too much it's too much you've got to calm down and i'm 37 i don't think i've dated 100 0.99

01:34:41 so that to me that's that's insane but i feel like if you're open to it i'll be honest with 0.99

01:34:46 you just like i'm not gonna lie everybody's skeptical like oh i didn't fuck on the first 0.85

01:34:50 night if i'm gonna be honest with you if you go on a date with a man and you tell him you 0.95

01:34:54 at 27 have dated 100 men and you're celibate for a year if i was a man i'd be like girl okay

01:35:01 like you're probably scaring potential potentially good me in a way she probably doesn't tell

01:35:08 the men that she's gone dated that many men but you're are you saying that if they knew that she 0.99

01:35:14 dated 100 men and she's been celibate for a year they'd be like girl you don't you fuck i i say it 0.99

01:35:21 all the time and they think it's funny yeah they think that's the problem they think it's funny 0.99

01:35:25 that's the problem that you're trying to look for a relationship and you're on but then that's not

01:35:29 gonna be my problem do you really think that do you really think that a man who is a good man

01:35:33 good man tall fine as hell fine as hell he's on a dating app to find love or they are trying to 0.98

01:35:40 fuck some of them are but i think that the ones that are all of them are i love your ad libs by 0.98

01:35:44 the way i'm a cheerly i'm cheerly i'm your hype man i love it i think you're not giving them a 0.98

01:35:49 chance i think that your standards are probably a little too high what you think is inconsistency 0.99

01:35:53 might not be in because men go through shit men go through shit mentally they probably got baby 0.99

01:35:58 mama drama they probably do you don't know right but one minute you're saying that um they're all 1.00

01:36:04 looking just to have sex and the next minute i should give them more of a chance yeah why am i 0.95

01:36:08 giving sexually hound dogs more of a chance no all right i'll be right back are we paused no 1.00

01:36:16 oh yeah we're cooking girl cook it up and this is the thing too men men are sexual creatures 0.91

01:36:24 then some people some people need to try it before they commit to it okay you know i'm saying you

01:36:30 might not like that but i'm just i'm just keeping it real no if that's what they need to do they

01:36:34 can do that it's just it won't be with you yeah right i feel that but the inconsistency thing too

01:36:39 and this is my thing i i i am just so into reality it's not even funny if i'm dating somebody and

01:36:45 i don't hear from them in a few days i have to know that they're also dating too so they probably 1.00

01:36:50 don't want to hurt my feelings and let me know hey i'm over here with ashley fucking you know 0.99

01:36:54 i'm saying they gotta because just like you're dating they're dating that's right so you cannot 0.96

01:36:58 expect somebody to be exclusively committed to you just because they went on a date with you

01:37:02 no 100 but i think you just see it in the small moments it's like the checking in it's the planning

01:37:06 the next date it's the showing up for the next date when you said you were going to plan it kind

01:37:09 of thing it's it's that sort of thing so you're saying they plan the date and stood you up well

01:37:13 i mean they don't stand me up but you know it's like then they want to change it to the next day

01:37:17 just like that same day and all that's wrong with that for me i just don't think that's respectful

01:37:21 I don't deal with people that way I wouldn't deal with people I care about that way how is that disrespectful that's actually respectful the disrespectful thing yeah but I think you can feel the respect in it if it feels genuine if you if you see all the things coming together to make it seem like this is a genuine thing that's fine and I accept that but a lot of the guys just kind of wake up see what they want to do that day and if you know a little bit like the people that said they would come here obviously it's not for dating um but the people that said they would come here I would show up I said I was going to come here I was showing up you know

01:37:48 unfortunately unfortunately which i've learned over the years is not everybody has the capacity

01:37:56 like you do or like because i'm very similar to you so i feel like not everyone not every man

01:38:01 has that capacity you know the consistency and all which sucks because we're built we're built

01:38:07 different i was just gonna say those of us that dated in the 90s yes in the early 2000s when

01:38:15 there were no apps right you had to kind of lego the relationship and i think it was easier dating

01:38:25 yes in the 90s in the 2000s it was fun it was great i mean i'm not saying i didn't have one

01:38:33 night stands in the late 90s in 2000s yes i most certainly did and there was a lot of that in the

01:38:38 It's like, hey, here's my number.

01:38:39 I like you.

01:38:40 Yeah, you can meet somebody at Walmart or bookstores.

01:38:46 I think you ought to take yourself off the dating app completely and then start seeing men without that filter.

01:38:54 And what I mean is, is on that device, in that screen, you start.

01:38:58 And stop having so many options because I'm telling you, it's hard.

01:39:01 That, too.

01:39:01 We didn't have options.

01:39:03 I mean, we didn't.

01:39:05 We didn't have any options.

01:39:06 This was our neighborhood.

01:39:07 Yes.

01:39:07 we'd be like driving in the car and somebody'd be like hey you're cute whatever we would give

01:39:11 our numbers i was 21 when we were able to like so different wait seven minutes to download a

01:39:17 dude's picture you better believe i like you if i'm gonna wait seven minutes to

01:39:21 this picture yes and you had to pick up the phone media well there was letters too

01:39:28 like my ex-boyfriend wrote me like a three or four page letter front and back then what my

01:39:32 high school boyfriend serenaded me outside of my window with this if we took away the apps

01:39:37 then you get back to like she said earlier she likes reality go to reality like there's gonna

01:39:43 end up being someone you work with someone that sees you every day at your best and your worst

01:39:48 and that be the person that you invest in you have too many expectations and i say the same

01:39:52 thing for men i'm in that chat all the time telling them coffee dates in the in the autumn

01:39:59 go swimming in the summertime get outside if you are all dolled up that's great but you can still

01:40:08 wear all that makeup pull that hair up in a bun and go do something getting instead of sitting

01:40:13 at this table and all you're focused on is oh he's fixing he's fixing to drop a hundred dollars all

01:40:19 he's worried about is i'm dropping a hundred dollars you're not even getting the real person

01:40:23 when you're on these dates you're getting a manufactured version yes of their best ability

01:40:29 they weren't a mask for one date you just whereas if you work with somebody or like you're with

01:40:36 somebody all the time and you cultivate that relationship it is going to be a different

01:40:41 outcome and i think you're selling yourself short by being on these apps i think apps are like that

01:40:47 is what has created the hellscape of today because i remember i've taken guys out on dates i have

01:40:53 paid for drinks at Ruby Tuesdays we have done all I used to buy party balls like we had a good time

01:40:59 I'm a lot wilder than you might think I am um but we just I mean if I was caring and he didn't have

01:41:06 it like you roll it up it's good baby you know what I'm saying like there was like this something

01:41:12 organic and when they took and put all these pretty faces on all these pretty apps it cheapened

01:41:19 everything the entire dating market went to being nothing but transactional oh you don't like

01:41:25 somebody oh because they don't make i've seen it on here oh he's got to make 150 000 to even talk

01:41:31 to me you're looking at the wrong thing you're already look you are starting your relationship 0.53

01:41:37 out looking for the wrong damn thing because there could be a man that makes 55 000 a year

01:41:43 that will love you that will take care of you and break his back to make that money to provide for 0.84

01:41:51 you and that fairy tale you won't you're not going to get the castle it's going to be small

01:41:56 you i've heard rachel say it i've lived out in the country myself 30 minutes from town is it

01:42:02 inconvenient yes but are you able to have that grounded foundation in like cultivate that

01:42:09 marriage where when bad shit does happen you're there for each other because i've seen hundreds

01:42:16 of marriages oh y'all are good when things are up you're good when things are up and then somebody 0.96

01:42:20 gets sick then what happens oh most of the time when my dude friends get sick their old ladies

01:42:27 bail that's what happens they go find somebody else that's healthier they go do something else

01:42:32 so if i were you like i'm just gonna be honest like we went to the clubs we did all the things

01:42:37 and you can still do those things but you do not have to be on an app to do them yeah and there's 0.77

01:42:43 something and there are men out there that are far more organic like she said that hot ass dude on

01:42:48 there he's there to just get it so if you're not going to give it he's not going to give you his

01:42:53 time and even if you get some of his time that's all you're going to be allotted because he's going

01:42:58 to go off and find that from somebody else i hate to say this but there's a hundred thousand dudes

01:43:04 like rob zombie running around out there that are single than there are dudes like brad pitt so if

01:43:10 you're i mean i'm just being honest like i was that girl i did not fall for the chads you know

01:43:15 what i'm saying i liked rob zombie like that was my dude my old man looks a lot like rob zombie

01:43:23 today so like you have to give those dudes that don't fit that i hate cookie cutter guys and i

01:43:30 hate cookie cutter women too you have to bring some flavor to yourself and it's not just like 0.50

01:43:35 about you it's like i don't know how to explain it everything has just become so freaking 0.86

01:43:40 superficial being online just one second just one second for all this time you hijacked a

01:43:46 conversation there are three women here each one wanted to take a turn and they couldn't because

01:43:51 you were talking non-stop i am absolutely i apologize i just wonder i understand this is

01:43:55 one of the first times i've spoken and said anything at this table so i was going to take

01:43:59 No, not the first time, because everybody had a turn to say something about themselves.

01:44:06 So what I'm asking is, I mean, you said a lot, but my question is, what is your expertise?

01:44:12 You're giving advice to people as if you are an expert on something to fix her.

01:44:20 If you are so great, you are just amazing.

01:44:24 And we will hear you because Brian is asking everybody, like, in turn about their situation.

01:44:31 We will hear you. 0.97

01:44:32 But you had such a huge speech, not letting any of these women to speak a word in. 0.99

01:44:38 Do you know what people do when they have a communications degree and a minor in biblical studies? 0.99

01:44:42 That is my expertise.

01:44:44 No, I don't.

01:44:45 But what I do know, I know that Brian said not to speak all together.

01:44:51 I doubt it has.

01:44:52 Mathematics did help me with my marriage.

01:44:54 How did mathematics help you with your marriage?

01:44:57 My marriage very well.

01:44:59 Well, I don't have a mathematics degree, but I can definitely talk to my husband.

01:45:03 I know.

01:45:04 I know.

01:45:04 We have a great marriage.

01:45:06 Okay.

01:45:06 Let's interrupt each other.

01:45:07 Is that a problem?

01:45:09 Is it that I'm married? 1.00

01:45:10 Is that the fucking problem? 1.00

01:45:11 People over there cannot understand what is it everyone is saying because you're interrupting 1.00

01:45:15 and you're talking.

01:45:16 I'll be quiet, ma'am.

01:45:18 Please.

01:45:18 Y'all talk.

01:45:20 I flew.

01:45:21 I'll just be quiet how about you motion to me when I'm allowed to say something because she wanted to say something you didn't allow her to stick in she wanted to say something you didn't and I have sat here and been silent for the majority of this podcast have I not and so would you like for me to just continue to be quiet what I want you to do I want you to because I will to others and give I'm disrespectful now well you were okay for ladies I apologize to you I am so sorry that my 0.55

01:45:51 education and marriage 0.85

01:45:53 and status in life

01:45:55 isn't good enough for you

01:45:57 we don't know your education

01:45:59 and marriage and I don't know how much

01:46:01 I said I have a communications degree

01:46:03 from Mississippi College and a minor in

01:46:05 biblical studies

01:46:06 and I have a degree in mathematics

01:46:07 and what's that got to do with helping her 0.97

01:46:11 get a grounded

01:46:13 relationship

01:46:13 what did I get

01:46:16 what did I tell her

01:46:17 I bet the chat can tell you what I told her

01:46:20 what did I tell her one get off the apps

01:46:23 two be organic

01:46:25 there's probably two or three

01:46:27 other things that I said that I thought

01:46:29 would help you don't have to

01:46:31 take it and you don't have to listen

01:46:34 I don't

01:46:35 no you don't

01:46:36 so I'll be quiet Brian you continue the show

01:46:39 I am so sorry

01:46:41 that I stepped on your toes and said something

01:46:43 my toes no you stepped on

01:46:45 I'm sorry

01:46:46 I'm sorry ladies

01:46:47 I'm going to be quiet

01:46:49 A couple things here. You said to her, what expertise does she have to give advice?

01:46:58 First off, this is people who don't need a degree. They don't even provide degrees in dating-related topics. 0.70

01:47:08 So I think the expertise would be you've lived and dated and had experience.

01:47:14 So I think that's a bit of an appeal to authority that you just did there.

01:47:18 oh well uh what's your expertise it's like we're on a dating discussion podcast where people are

01:47:23 free to share their dating opinions secondly um she was you're both right and both wrong so um

01:47:31 she was speaking for like an extended duration of time however she is correct she hasn't really

01:47:37 spoken uh really much up until this point so she was she was taking the opportunity to speak um

01:47:44 Um, so I, I don't think that, um, I don't think she was doing anything particularly,

01:47:51 uh, egregious there. She, she, you've spoken quite a bit and you were saying, well, she

01:47:59 wanted to come in, uh, if we're looking at like total speaking time in her defense, she

01:48:04 has not really spoken too much. So, um, why don't we do this though? There's a bunch of

01:48:10 topics that have sprung up we'll get into them we have not yet finished the relationship status of

01:48:16 everybody so why don't we do that and then we can dive back into the various topics uh what's your

01:48:21 relationship status i'm married okay for how long for 33 years how long were you uh together before

01:48:28 for 35 total 35 years before okay uh and i'm i'm assuming that's your longest relationship of course

01:48:37 Yes, you are assuming correctly.

01:48:39 It would have to be.

01:48:41 Kids?

01:48:42 Yes.

01:48:42 How many kids?

01:48:43 Two.

01:48:44 Kids from, like, stepkids?

01:48:47 No.

01:48:47 Okay, so he doesn't have kids from someone else.

01:48:50 No, we have two kids together.

01:48:52 You have two kids together.

01:48:53 Yes.

01:48:54 All right, what about you?

01:48:55 Relationship status? 0.86

01:48:56 Single by choice.

01:48:57 Free as a bird.

01:48:58 Single, you're a free bird.

01:49:00 Freedom is priceless.

01:49:02 I love it.

01:49:03 Yes, I've been celibate nearly a decade. 0.99

01:49:05 It's fucking awesome. 0.78

01:49:06 can you can you do that little song again freedom is priceless yeah who wants that jingle that was 0.97

01:49:14 good you should sell it i know uh but okay uh very single you said very single is the term yeah

01:49:21 purposely purposely yes purposely not dating for peace and reasons yeah longest relationship

01:49:27 you've ever had two years two years with brett michaels no you wish no no don't wish no don't

01:49:35 wish he was a good looking guy in his day it's not about it's not about the looks no well he's

01:49:40 a good singer every rose has its thorn yeah no he's a good singer he's a good singer he ever

01:49:47 talented yes he did and it and he still couldn't crack the what do you mean i fell head over heels

01:49:54 on that fake ass show i thought it was real two items for 69 dollars and 98 cents including 0.97

01:50:01 whatever 7X long sleeve. 1.00

01:50:04 Chivalry is for women who deserve it. 0.99

01:50:07 My wife, 23, was virgin when I, 30, met her. 0.97

01:50:12 She deserves chivalry and has an outie.

01:50:15 Hashtag BLM, hashtag Tradwine. 1.00

01:50:17 Virgin and an outie. 0.89

01:50:19 Congratulations, dude.

01:50:20 What a catch.

01:50:21 What a catch.

01:50:23 But okay, so, any kids?

01:50:27 No.

01:50:27 No kids?

01:50:28 No.

01:50:28 i hope this isn't an insensitive question you're going to feel guilty afterwards but go ahead

01:50:36 what age do women typically stop being able to have kids i don't know are you can you yes i can

01:50:50 and uh you're 51 yes and i are they still can yes they can but because i had a miscarriage

01:50:59 and it was traumatizing in my 30s it was all michaels no it was brett's

01:51:05 no so it was traumatizing and so i um i just thought you know i'm just supposed to be a dog

01:51:14 mom so i've had a dog for 16 years who's and she just passed so um yeah so anytime and this is for

01:51:22 your viewers too don't ever think that just because a woman that doesn't have a child is

01:51:27 there's something wrong with her because most women do try and some women have multiple miscarriages

01:51:32 before they even are able to conceive and some people can't go through that so um yeah that's 0.98

01:51:39 that's the thing and yeah um and so okay uh longest relationship two years yes ever married

01:51:47 um i was engaged and um when i went to case western reserve university i was but i was very

01:51:54 young um i didn't have to work because i was in college so um he bought us a condo and a dog and

01:52:02 car and all the things um i planned the wedding had a dress fail everything but i just was like a

01:52:07 runaway bride. I was too young. Um, and so I definitely have had that whole scenario.

01:52:14 All right. Uh, relationship status. I'm single. Uh, for how long? Um, just about five years.

01:52:22 Five years. Okay. Um, you said you were married, married, married twice. Yeah. Married twice.

01:52:27 Longest relationship. 20 years. Uh, kids. Yeah. I have three children. Three kids. Uh, two from

01:52:33 one one from another okay um and two marriages yes two marriages okay uh are there currently

01:52:40 any guys in the picture no have there been any guys in the picture since you were divorced

01:52:45 uh yeah okay longest period of time you dated about a year and a half boyfriend or he was a

01:52:51 boyfriend he was somebody that i reconnected with um okay okay so really quick the first marriage

01:52:58 who initiated the divorce i did okay it was kind you know what i actually was kind of mutual mutual

01:53:04 it was okay uh and you had two kids with the first i had one one with the first yeah uh alimony

01:53:11 nope child support uh i was granted child support but i didn't receive it um for long periods of

01:53:19 time okay and then second husband self-sufficient i worked second husband who initiated the divorce

01:53:26 No, it was me.

01:53:29 Okay, and alimony?

01:53:32 Nope.

01:53:33 Child support?

01:53:33 Yes, minimal.

01:53:35 Okay.

01:53:38 Why did you break up with him, I guess?

01:53:42 Which one?

01:53:42 The most recent one?

01:53:45 Well, he's on the spectrum, and that kind of caused some issues across the board.

01:53:53 Hold on.

01:53:54 Let's rewind for just a second.

01:53:56 mm-hmm you divorced how long were you with him i was with him for i was married for 15 years i was

01:54:03 with him for 20 years okay together for 20 married for 15 two kids how old how old were they when you

01:54:13 split uh let's see eight nine ish something like that eight nine years old because they're three

01:54:20 And you divorced him because he's autistic.

01:54:23 No, no, because of the issues that come along with that.

01:54:27 It's a lot deeper than that.

01:54:29 But you were with him for 20 years.

01:54:31 Yeah, I know.

01:54:31 It was a big decision.

01:54:32 So, okay, what were the issues?

01:54:33 So he is autistic then?

01:54:35 Yeah, he's on the spectrum.

01:54:36 Are you on the spectrum?

01:54:38 I don't know, maybe.

01:54:40 Okay, I don't know, I'm just asking.

01:54:41 I think I'm ADHD though now.

01:54:42 I think we all do at this point.

01:54:44 But I have a daughter that is, so yeah.

01:54:47 So what were the, so he is diagnosed autistic?

01:54:50 Yeah.

01:54:51 What are the issues that that caused in the...

01:54:55 Lots of financial issues.

01:54:59 Financial.

01:55:00 Lots of social, yeah, some people that are on the spectrum, depending on where you are.

01:55:08 Yeah, okay.

01:55:09 A little bit scattered.

01:55:10 Sure.

01:55:10 I'm a great guy.

01:55:10 I can't say anything bad about him.

01:55:12 He's a great guy.

01:55:13 He's very well educated, comes from a great family.

01:55:16 There are certain things that I just couldn't handle anymore.

01:55:20 Financial is one, socially.

01:55:23 Socially?

01:55:24 What was wrong there?

01:55:25 Very socially awkward.

01:55:27 Well, socially awkward.

01:55:29 With who?

01:55:30 With me, with friends, with people, just in public in general.

01:55:34 Okay.

01:55:36 But also, you know, just lacks emotion and empathy.

01:55:41 So I just couldn't do that anymore.

01:55:44 Lacks emotion and empathy.

01:55:46 Yeah.

01:55:46 Yeah, so a lot of people that are on the spectrum, if they see that you're upset about something, they don't know how to react.

01:55:52 That gets really exhausting.

01:55:54 But didn't you?

01:55:55 No, I didn't know because what happens is.

01:55:57 It developed over time?

01:55:58 What happens, so it's something, it's called a mask.

01:56:00 So people that are on the spectrum or that have issues like that, it's called masking.

01:56:07 Yeah, I understand.

01:56:08 Basically, they are on their best behavior until you get comfortable in the situation.

01:56:14 and then little things start coming out and showing up and i didn't understand what they were

01:56:19 i mean i i like quirky i like different and i like wait wait hold on you said when you guys

01:56:27 got divorced at the time of the divorce your kids were eight and nine no no they were three years

01:56:32 apart so one was just what are the ages i think one was like nine maybe the other one was 12 i

01:56:38 don't you know okay hold on something you're talking i understand and by the way even like

01:56:43 not neurotypical people uh sorry i said non and then i uh neurotypical neuro yeah okay okay i got

01:56:53 it neurotypical people will still do like masking and like hold back certain whatever 0.97

01:56:58 you said though your oldest was 12 this fucker was masking for eight years no no no no it wasn't 0.97

01:57:10 that long no but okay okay but so here's my confusion you i understand people you know 0.98

01:57:16 they're they're on good behavior three months six months one year two years three however long

01:57:21 but you didn't you dated this guy you were with him for eight years right so i mean was he fully 0.99

01:57:28 mask off with his shit before you're like, you know what? I'm going to let this guy impregnate 0.99

01:57:34 me twice. No, no. I think it was when I started having children was when I started seeing like 0.79

01:57:39 behaviors changing. That's when it started happening. Wait, but you said he was the best

01:57:43 guy ever. No, he's a good guy. He's not a bad person. So, but I'm not going to stay with somebody

01:57:48 just because they're nice to me and a good person. And that seems like a pretty good reason.

01:57:53 They get my coffee right one out of a hundred times. 1.00

01:57:58 Why should a man ever be doing a woman's coffee? 1.00

01:58:01 That's ridiculous. 0.98

01:58:02 Well, no, he would go out and get me coffee or whatever. 1.00

01:58:06 Why should a man ever get a woman's coffee? 1.00

01:58:08 That is a woman's duty. 1.00

01:58:10 That is ridiculous. 1.00

01:58:11 Not my role. 0.96

01:58:13 Not my role.

01:58:13 Who was the breadwinner?

01:58:16 Who was the breadwinner?

01:58:17 I always worked.

01:58:18 I've always worked.

01:58:18 What about him?

01:58:19 Both of us.

01:58:19 We both worked.

01:58:21 He's a finance guy.

01:58:22 Finance guy.

01:58:22 so he made more money than you no actually i did i did i was in marketing pr then i left that job

01:58:30 i started at ucla i did costuming and up until covid and i made money i designed costumes for

01:58:38 and i had a belt company so okay was there a dead bedroom um actually no no not until i was done

01:58:47 and i was like i can't do this anymore um but no that wasn't the issue it's okay no abuse

01:58:52 no uh treated the kids well yeah just he's just a little awkward but yeah okay i think it's okay

01:58:59 to be i mean i assume you knew he was awkward no and and i didn't and i didn't mind that see i

01:59:04 didn't mind that but when it starts getting into like you have a party at your house and he's

01:59:08 arguing with people over politics and he's a staunch republican which is oh i love this guy 0.63

01:59:15 oh no you would love him and he would love you wait wait wait he's autistic which is not and

01:59:20 It's not a problem

01:59:23 But I have friends from all walks of life

01:59:26 And I would tell him

01:59:28 This guy sounds great

01:59:29 You can't talk 0.96

01:59:30 I don't want arguments at a freaking holiday party 0.96

01:59:34 You know what I'm saying 0.97

01:59:34 Talking about guns and Trump

01:59:36 Was he bringing up the politics

01:59:38 Look I'm conservative

01:59:40 But I won't go there first

01:59:42 I don't go there first

01:59:44 At like a social event

01:59:45 But living in California 1.00

01:59:47 These retards they got to complain 1.00

01:59:49 Oh, Trump is so... 1.00

01:59:50 Did you hear what Trump said

01:59:52 last time? Oh, my God.

01:59:54 And I got to go in. I got to go in.

01:59:56 I got to say something. I'll be like, you're fucking retarded. 1.00

01:59:58 Shut up. 1.00

02:00:00 He loves confrontation. 1.00

02:00:02 He liked to get a rise out of people.

02:00:04 Is he smart?

02:00:06 He's super smart. He's brilliant.

02:00:07 So he'd destroy them to be...

02:00:10 Yeah, and then they'd come up to me. I can't believe you're married to this guy. 0.97

02:00:12 You know, shit like that. 1.00

02:00:14 Wait, hold on. You blew up your marriage 1.00

02:00:17 because you were dating a conservative guy

02:00:19 who was outspoken oh my god wait wait wait you should have been his biggest cheerleader you 1.00

02:00:24 should have been like i didn't even like becky anyways fuck that bitch good job husband you 1.00

02:00:29 now we don't have to invite her to brunch anymore thank you you should have been thankful to your 1.00

02:00:34 husband for espousing some like you know uh maybe we just deport all of them like that's a w that's 0.98

02:00:40 a fucking w sorry no but but we're still we're no we're still we're friends now i mean everything's 0.98

02:00:47 like, fine. And I, you know, we're supportive of each other. It just, we just don't, there's 0.98

02:00:51 no romantic thing. That's all. There's no romance. First off, this is why you should

02:00:57 never have house parties. House parties are fucking, oh my God. I, I, oh. They were holiday. 0.99

02:01:04 They used to be fun. They were Christmas, Hanukkah, my birthday is December. It was

02:01:08 just a party. Oh, you, um, you, you work in, uh, fabrication. Oh, tell me more.

02:01:17 about your fucking career I don't care about. 1.00

02:01:20 Oh my God, that's, holy shit. 1.00

02:01:23 Never, I need to date an introverted woman. 1.00

02:01:26 I need to find an introverted woman 1.00

02:01:28 who has no friends and we could just stay at home together. 1.00

02:01:32 We'll have kids, we'll have a bunch of kids. 0.99

02:01:34 You don't like nails and shit. 1.00

02:01:35 There's plenty of introverted women out there. 1.00

02:01:37 There's a lot. 1.00

02:01:37 So many that don't go out and they love staying at home.

02:01:41 Wait, what about the nails?

02:01:42 They don't, none of them do their nails.

02:01:44 What's wrong with nails?

02:01:44 Love nails. 1.00

02:01:45 Yeah, so there's a lot of introverted women that – 1.00

02:01:48 Wait, what is the nails? 0.99

02:01:49 Because you are like – guys hate nails.

02:01:51 Guys hate – like you wouldn't like the girl because she'll have whatever nail she wants on, right? 1.00

02:01:56 You're like, I don't give a fuck about your dumb nails. 1.00

02:01:58 True. 1.00

02:01:59 Right. 1.00

02:01:59 So there's a lot of introverted women that just like to do whatever for themselves and they stay home, 1.00

02:02:06 but they don't want to have somebody come in and be like, fuck your nails, fuck your hair, fuck your style. 1.00

02:02:10 So you're saying – hold on. 1.00

02:02:12 you're saying i'm missing out on introverted yes because of my anti-nail stance yes there are a

02:02:22 lot yes you're missing out brian they're missing out how about that no that's no they're missing

02:02:28 out uh anyways i don't know um okay i'm just here to tell you they are they are why did you divorce

02:02:34 your first husband let's talk about that we were married very young very young and um was he also

02:02:39 autistic no no we just um we just grew apart it just was like you know not good timing i grew up

02:02:46 i wanted this i wanted more he was there abuse he was more content no mistreated you no so just

02:02:53 no just not compatible yeah he was going through things and just you know nothing major like that

02:03:00 all right well your husband sounds dope if he are you watching what's i don't know if we can uh

02:03:04 bart or robert or some shit um i'm sure you would love him i'm sure he is uh three years older than 0.96

02:03:14 me yeah 62 yeah all right what's like um all right saul of the name hey saul he's not jewish 0.73

02:03:23 is saul a jewish name i don't know there's not jewish that's a very there's non-jewish sauls

02:03:30 I'm sure there are, but it's primarily a relationship.

02:03:33 Relationship status for you?

02:03:34 I'm in a relationship.

02:03:35 All right, for how long?

02:03:36 Five and a half years.

02:03:37 Five and a half years.

02:03:39 Is this your longest relationship?

02:03:40 Yes.

02:03:41 Any kids?

02:03:42 Yes, I have two children.

02:03:43 With this guy?

02:03:45 We don't have any kids together.

02:03:46 Okay, so you have two children from one guy, two guys?

02:03:49 Two guys.

02:03:50 Two different guys.

02:03:51 How old were you the first time around?

02:03:53 18.

02:03:54 18.

02:03:55 Teen pregnancy. 0.67

02:03:56 Yeah.

02:03:56 And then how old were you for the second?

02:04:00 20.

02:04:00 They're two years apart.

02:04:02 18 and 20?

02:04:03 Mm-hmm.

02:04:03 18, 20.

02:04:04 Yeah.

02:04:04 Okay.

02:04:05 And were these guys you were dating?

02:04:08 Yeah.

02:04:08 So the first one, we dated in high school.

02:04:11 We were each other's first.

02:04:12 Yeah.

02:04:13 And literally, like, right after I lost my virginity, I got pregnant.

02:04:17 So, yeah.

02:04:18 Wait. 1.00

02:04:18 How soon after losing your virginity did you get pregnant? 0.87

02:04:22 Two months. 0.98

02:04:23 And it was with the same guy you lost your virginity to?

02:04:26 Yeah, we lost it to each other.

02:04:27 To each other, okay.

02:04:30 Does he pay you child support?

02:04:32 Is he in the picture?

02:04:33 He's in the picture.

02:04:34 Well, you have an adult daughter or son?

02:04:39 I have two sons, yeah.

02:04:40 My 18-year-old just graduated high school in May, and I have a 16-year-old.

02:04:43 Yeah, if you're 37 and you were 18, so okay, yeah.

02:04:47 Yeah.

02:04:47 Oh, okay, so they're pretty much, and you have two sons.

02:04:50 Mm-hmm.

02:04:50 Okay, two sons, all right.

02:04:53 Okay. Planning for any more, or?

02:04:58 Not at the moment.

02:04:59 Not at the moment.

02:04:59 If it happens, it happens, but I want a daughter. 1.00

02:05:02 And you primarily date Asian guys, right? 1.00

02:05:05 That's right. My man is Asian.

02:05:07 Wait, actually?

02:05:08 How do you know?

02:05:09 Wait, seriously?

02:05:10 No.

02:05:11 Oh, okay.

02:05:12 No. 1.00

02:05:13 Latino? 1.00

02:05:13 He's a man of color. He's black.

02:05:15 Black man. 0.93

02:05:15 African-American, however you are, whatever. 0.99

02:05:17 Yeah, black. 0.74

02:05:17 Yeah. 0.98

02:05:20 And, okay.

02:05:21 Okay. What about interracial kids or black?

02:05:27 Yeah.

02:05:27 Okay. Just any other interracial marriages, relationships?

02:05:33 Got a couple of children, children. You got kids?

02:05:36 I got them, yeah.

02:05:37 What, your relationship status?

02:05:39 I am married and we were together, well, we've been together almost 13 years.

02:05:46 We have an 11-year-old. He's autistic.

02:05:48 he's got a lot of issues but brilliant in his own way I stay home with him I homeschool him

02:05:57 I take care of him every day I'm also cleared by the state of Arizona I'm a mandated court

02:06:03 reporter and I just got cleared to take and foster children so that's kind of where I'm at

02:06:08 I had a very hard time having babies so they are precious I had six miscarriages and I only gave

02:06:14 birth to three healthy children so um they are a gift you know um and you've been you were married

02:06:23 before is that correct i was we were together um 17 years we were married 16 he was bipolar

02:06:30 and um he didn't love me he just didn't love me came home one day and said i think you need to

02:06:38 find friends and he already had plenty. So he went his way and I went mine. Now you're current

02:06:47 and I have some more notes on this, but we'll get into that later. So, okay. You, you've been

02:06:52 married for 13 years. No, we've been, we've actually only been married one year, but we've

02:06:57 been together over 13 years. I see. Okay. Married one year, but together 13 years and you have one

02:07:02 kid with him. That's right. Any other kids or just my older two, they're grown. They're like,

02:07:07 And that's with your first husband?

02:07:09 They're like 23 and 20.

02:07:11 Okay, so two fathers total.

02:07:13 Mm-hmm.

02:07:13 Okay.

02:07:14 Now, you met your current husband while on a date with your ex-husband.

02:07:22 Is that correct?

02:07:23 Almost.

02:07:24 Oh, yeah.

02:07:25 Yeah, y'all see what you want to see.

02:07:27 Isn't that right?

02:07:28 So what happened was is my ex-husband loved to go to the bar and karaoke,

02:07:33 and we walked in and unbeknownst to me the lady that he fed money to for us to go singing

02:07:39 just happened to have her son in there and I get when I used to drink a lot right this is over 13

02:07:48 years ago but when I used to drink a lot I used to grab all the little pieces of paper and just

02:07:52 write Jenny on all of them so when a song hit me I could just run right it's so smart I would run

02:07:58 to the table and write the song down before I forgot it and go turn it in and when we walked

02:08:04 in the door my ex-husband turned around looked at me he says you're kind of guy isn't it

02:08:07 and mistaken him for being a partier and what he saw isn't what he was and my husband is a gamer

02:08:16 I know exactly where he's at 24 7 he's always with our kid or he is at work and he's loyal and

02:08:23 he takes care of me when I had cancer and had to go through two different surgeries and lost

02:08:30 everything that made me let's try I'm sorry to interrupt but we need can like you got to be

02:08:36 concise here with the just so okay so yeah he uh he gave my phone number to the guy I'm married to

02:08:44 now my husband wrote my phone number down and handed it to his mama that's how we ended up

02:08:50 together cute not wild so okay so you you were out with your husband yes at the time and then

02:09:00 your current guy your current husband who you've been with for 13 years was there he was there

02:09:06 so you met your current husband while with your ex-husband and your ex-husband gave your number

02:09:15 Ted

02:09:17 You want to go one step further

02:09:19 I wasn't supposed to be there that Wednesday night

02:09:22 Because my husband took his girlfriends out

02:09:24 On Friday nights

02:09:25 I was supposed to be at home

02:09:26 I was the only one working

02:09:28 So I wasn't supposed to be there

02:09:31 Can you tell us the story one more time

02:09:33 With the soundtrack

02:09:33 Which part

02:09:36 The whole thing

02:09:38 I do not want to go through the whole thing

02:09:39 The quick thing

02:09:40 My husband and I walk into a bar

02:09:44 With a friend of ours

02:09:45 He sees a guy standing off to the side and says, hey, that's your kind of guy.

02:09:51 And I was like, maybe.

02:09:53 And I'm sipping his Everclear because he's bipolar.

02:09:55 Everclear.

02:09:57 Everclear.

02:09:57 In his pocket, he would drink three a night.

02:10:01 So I was drinking my drink and sipping on his.

02:10:04 And I'm singing.

02:10:05 I don't even know what's going on.

02:10:07 I'm singing.

02:10:07 I'm doing my thing.

02:10:08 And he just passed it on.

02:10:11 And he's like, oh, he's going to be a player.

02:10:14 Yeah, he played video games.

02:10:16 He don't play games. 0.99

02:10:18 I wish my, like, if I was on a date with a girlfriend, she'd be like, hey, you see that girl? 1.00

02:10:24 She seems like your type. 1.00

02:10:25 Yeah, let me give you, let me give her the number. 1.00

02:10:29 And see how it backfired?

02:10:31 See how it backfired on him?

02:10:33 Yeah, why not?

02:10:34 I've done that before.

02:10:35 Like, I get to keep both, though.

02:10:37 You don't get to keep both.

02:10:38 You never get to keep both.

02:10:40 You never get to keep both. 0.81

02:10:41 You would do a poly?

02:10:43 uh i would have multiple i would i would have like 20. all guys would if they if you could

02:10:50 i mean if guys could they would realistically though realistically no realistically no but um

02:10:57 no i i i joke but i mean you know maybe you could have a a compound and here's this house 0.93

02:11:05 and then she pumps out that only works for elon they do that and then this house over here she

02:11:10 pumps out another seven kids in this house over here she pumps out another seven sounds kind of 0.82

02:11:15 nice that sounds annoying as shit and stressful it sounds yeah that's too much juggling i need 0.71

02:11:23 to have one primary one that's that's the uh uh the main like the holly the main that cracks the 0.98

02:11:30 whip that's what i'm saying you need a female advisor an og yes sure sober female advisor

02:11:38 They're telling you how to – I'm going to be your – yes. 1.00

02:11:41 You can be the wrangler for my three wives or whatever.

02:11:45 I got you. 0.74

02:11:46 Great.

02:11:46 All right.

02:11:47 Okay.

02:11:47 So, okay.

02:11:48 That's everyone's relationships.

02:11:49 Why don't we get into – let's do some disagreements.

02:11:55 Let's see if there's any just on here.

02:11:59 Okay.

02:12:00 Trice.

02:12:01 Yes.

02:12:01 My name is Trice.

02:12:03 I'm just going to call you prettier because I can't –

02:12:05 That's cool.

02:12:06 Actually, no. 1.00

02:12:07 Fuck that. 1.00

02:12:07 Trice. 1.00

02:12:08 attitude towards women uh okay so what's your disagreement i guess i didn't like how when we

02:12:16 came in here you were very passive aggressive passive no i was just aggressive yeah you were

02:12:21 very aggressive did you see my story i said he irritated already this is gonna be interesting

02:12:25 yeah you were just you were not polite i was i don't even think you spoke to us i didn't like

02:12:31 that it was the perfume it was the perfume oh yeah somebody came in i don't know who it is you guys

02:12:37 wouldn't admit to it we tell you not to wear perfume and somebody came in smelling like a 0.99

02:12:41 fucking whorehouse not gonna lie it was so terrible but anyways yeah you're right i'm a 0.99

02:12:47 dick anyways next at least you admitted it yeah yeah well also just fucking not that it's any of 0.99

02:12:53 your guys's fault we had so many people flake today and so this is a very small panel uh and 0.98

02:13:00 the circumstances under which they flaked were frustrating not your guys's fault but obviously

02:13:04 that's going to just be sure make me frustrated that makes sense i said that to everyone yeah 0.97

02:13:09 makes sense podcast and it's like shit sometimes that affects your mood i didn't take it personal

02:13:15 you're actually a really cool guy yeah yeah i'm usually more chill after the show but um before 0.92

02:13:20 the show it's kind of stressful to yeah you're juggling a lot and people are flaking out because

02:13:25 they got to go to a stupid party it's not your guys you guys were all on time and super respectful 0.96

02:13:29 So, um, no, it's just, it's very frustrating when, uh, you know, it's like, it's disrespectful. 1.00

02:13:38 It's disrespectful.

02:13:39 So you were disrespected, especially day of, you know, it's, it's going to cause us problems

02:13:44 if you cancel the day before, but at least then we have an opportunity to try to fix

02:13:49 it.

02:13:49 But if you cancel a few hours before the show, it kind of fucks us over a little bit.

02:13:54 So I was pretty frustrated by that.

02:13:55 um we we like to have fuller panels not your guys's fault but i was a bit frustrated and we're 0.98

02:14:01 cool with it because we get more airtime shit fuck them that is true actually that is a benefit 0.96

02:14:06 for you guys so anyways um okay anything else um yeah i do think that um you're very you're very 0.99

02:14:13 harsh on women as far as like being very judgmental okay um i think you stereotype certain

02:14:19 types of women sure so like for example when you brought up my of you said something about chivalry

02:14:24 as if 0.99

02:14:26 women do certain things 1.00

02:14:29 that they don't deserve chivalry 1.00

02:14:31 from men. Yeah, that's correct. And it's not

02:14:33 correct. I'm going to be honest with you.

02:14:35 My culture is different

02:14:37 from yours, right? Which culture? 0.99

02:14:39 Being a black woman. I'm African-American.

02:14:42 You might be.

02:14:43 My dad was born in Africa. My mom was born in America.

02:14:45 Quit lying. No, it's true.

02:14:47 So technically, I'm African-American. 0.99

02:14:49 But jokes aside, you're right. I'm not black. 0.94

02:14:51 I would say the urban

02:14:52 people of color culture.

02:14:55 So like I said...

02:14:56 Wait, I grew up in the mean streets of Santa Barbara. 1.00

02:14:59 No, this shit is nice as hell. 1.00

02:15:01 In Montecito, Santa Barbara, 1.00

02:15:03 mean streets.

02:15:04 You grew up here?

02:15:06 I'm from the mean streets of Santa Barbara.

02:15:09 Okay?

02:15:10 Dang.

02:15:11 I grew up in the streets.

02:15:13 The streets.

02:15:15 I didn't grow up in the streets either.

02:15:17 I understand. Different culture.

02:15:19 To my point.

02:15:20 so well I am I've told y'all like I'd be finessing so I don't really be doing nothing on the fans but 0.69

02:15:25 you kind of stereotype me as if I did you know what I'm saying so not because you're black though

02:15:29 well no it's because I'm a woman and I'm on a certain platform but I made the correlation to

02:15:34 your paid subscription and my and only fans pay subscription you don't have to it doesn't have to

02:15:40 be what everybody else is doing I've never done any type of sex work in my life but I I deserve

02:15:44 chivalry because of how I carry myself how I present myself so nobody ever comes up to me

02:15:49 they're never disrespectful you know i i get treated with the utmost respect because of how

02:15:54 i carry myself so because of how i carry myself i deserve chivalry now if i presented myself a

02:15:59 different way just like them you know like unless unless they degrade themselves or unless they act

02:16:05 in a way to where a man doesn't want to treat them with respect or be a gentleman or whatever

02:16:10 then you know so it's just like you can't say that a woman doesn't deserve chivalry because

02:16:15 yeah sure well i guess two questions for you you you said that i i wanted to narrow in on what you

02:16:22 said there with the different culture so what do you mean what's what is the what do you mean by

02:16:28 that well so like to me like um like being thick that's that's like a part of my culture like it's 0.98

02:16:34 a thing you know there's thick white girls well i mean it's not like y'all y'all like big boobs 1.00

02:16:39 Big boobs? 1.00

02:16:40 White people are like, can you agree? 1.00

02:16:42 Y'all are not going to get BBLs and shit. 1.00

02:16:45 There's white women with some BBLs. 1.00

02:16:47 They do, but I'm saying, I was the only black family. 0.58

02:16:50 Did you have a BBL?

02:16:51 I did get one.

02:16:52 You got a BBL?

02:16:52 Yeah, I did get one.

02:16:53 What's that song, BBL?

02:16:55 Wait, Drake?

02:16:56 Wait, BBL Drizzy?

02:16:57 Or wait, what's that?

02:16:58 You know the song?

02:16:59 I don't know.

02:17:00 Chat, chat.

02:17:01 It's like, BBL.

02:17:03 No?

02:17:04 Anyways.

02:17:05 Wait, so you got BBL?

02:17:06 You got BBL?

02:17:06 Yeah, I did get one.

02:17:07 Lipo?

02:17:07 Yeah. 0.95

02:17:08 fake titties no how many bbls have you had just one just one but like but like what's that 0.95

02:17:16 what's the bbl got to do with well i'm trying to tell you if you stop you you're breaking your own 0.93

02:17:20 rules it's okay i'm sorry it's okay but okay like like for example so what what what my culture

02:17:28 would buy into me on only fans like that's what they like it i don't have to get naked 0.99

02:17:32 I don't like black culture is they like they like BBLs they like they they fantasize a woman that 1.00

02:17:38 looks like you know a certain thing you know I'm saying like so people would subscribe to see me 1.00

02:17:44 listen in a bikini in jeans and stuff like that but that doesn't mean that because guess what

02:17:49 she might do that on her story for free I know some brothers I know some brothers who I understand

02:17:57 what you're saying. You're saying the brother's like

02:17:59 a girl who 1.00

02:18:01 pack much back. 0.90

02:18:06 Sir Mix-a-Lot.

02:18:07 Hence the song, Baby Got Back.

02:18:09 Who got back, right? I understand that.

02:18:12 But look, there's also brothers

02:18:13 who will

02:18:15 you know, they're okay with 1.00

02:18:17 a little skinny girl. 1.00

02:18:20 You know, you can still be

02:18:21 you know, look, what's the Sir Mix-a-Lot

02:18:23 as

02:18:24 the

02:18:25 i don't know i don't know where i'm going with this but um okay so there's the culture component

02:18:31 but wait was that because you were relating that to my comments about chivalry i was trying to

02:18:36 finish and you kept interrupting me so i'm sorry it's okay i'm sorry i'm so basically what i'm

02:18:42 saying like okay that that is okay in my culture like they're they're not they don't feel the way

02:18:48 what is okay in your culture like like like you know like you might want to you know do a little

02:18:52 twerk or something like that like that's part of our culture it's not a part of white people 0.99

02:18:56 culture that's black people shit so men men want to see that oh no you know what i'm saying wait i 0.99

02:19:02 feel like so they wouldn't look at that some men some men don't look at that as oh she doesn't 1.00

02:19:07 deserve chivalry oh okay i i see i get what you're saying yeah and i date i date within my culture

02:19:14 wait but i feel like you're almost being more racist towards black people with what you just

02:19:22 said you just said part of black culture is twerking that is that is a that is like a part

02:19:30 of our like community that like a lot of people in our community do that that comes from that

02:19:33 comes from africa so a lot of like if you if you subscribe to certain channels you will see

02:19:38 uh people in different cultures and traditions they do certain traditional twerk dances and

02:19:44 stuff like that so like if you were to go to black parties black families like that that's a part of 0.69

02:19:49 our culture that's how we dance you probably wouldn't understand it because you didn't grow up 0.81

02:19:53 in a black household black functions and stuff like that but that's yeah but twerking is a very 0.72

02:19:58 hold on what were people were black people twerking 40 50 60 70 80 years ago this is like a 0.53

02:20:05 new development in supposed black culture in africa i mean it wasn't called twerking but it

02:20:11 It was, you know, twerking wasn't labeled twerking forever.

02:20:17 Look, as someone who has at least one black friend. 0.94

02:20:23 You're the guy with the one black friend.

02:20:24 I got one black friend. 0.94

02:20:25 Come on. 0.95

02:20:26 I almost take, I, look, some people are racist.

02:20:31 I want to be optimistic about black people, about African Americans.

02:20:37 i almost think that the say intellectual black folk folks folks i don't know what you guys i

02:20:46 don't know the term you all use would find it offensive that you say that black culture is

02:20:53 twerking i want to be well you said twerking is a part of black culture i want to be more

02:20:59 optimistic and more have a more positive sentiment towards black people i think

02:21:06 the to say that twerking now look twerking i suppose you could say is uh downstream of black

02:21:15 culture but to that's the thing you go to like when you talk about black culture we're talking

02:21:22 about twerking and bbls we were talking about social media we were talking about dating am i

02:21:27 more racist i almost want to reject your framework that oh my god okay that you put my words well

02:21:33 hold on but i want to reject your framework of black culture so you're saying black culture is 0.97

02:21:38 twerking bbls and thick women i didn't say i want to be like no black people you're better than that

02:21:45 i didn't say that i view black people as higher than that and you should aspire to more than that 0.87

02:21:55 we're not i almost feel like but i almost feel like that's a less racist position okay so what's

02:22:03 the topic we were just talking about if we were talking about food if we were talking about

02:22:07 education i would have mentioned plenty of other things i didn't say black culture is work and i

02:22:11 said that that is something that is a part of black culture i said because the topic that we 0.98

02:22:16 were on is dating chivalry why don't y'all reject that shit though why don't we reject what like the 1.00

02:22:23 the twerking and the the you know what i mean no why don't y'all reject the fake titties you 1.00

02:22:29 don't say why don't y'all reject the incest why don't y'all reject yeah okay i'm saying because 0.95

02:22:36 you want to you're trying to be funny you're trying to be funny no i'm not trying to be funny 0.59

02:22:40 well no i well you said that i said black culture is twerking i didn't say that well no that's

02:22:44 obviously that that's one example that you provided you didn't say hey what is black

02:22:49 culture and i said twerking i was talking about that was the first that was the first thing that

02:22:54 and i was trying to explain and you didn't really ever let me fully explain so like you kind of took

02:22:59 that little piece and you kind of but okay you said okay this conversation stems from you said

02:23:06 hey brian you can't really understand uh because we're talking about chivalry and who deserves

02:23:12 chivalry and you're saying well in my culture these things that brian from your white lens

02:23:18 make a woman less deserving of chivalry so my arguments are when women are like degenerate or

02:23:24 modern or sex workers or do only fans that's kind of where it stemmed from and then you're saying 0.95

02:23:29 well culturally if i understand you correctly culturally you're saying black culture is more

02:23:35 accepting of some of these things and i would i almost want to reject that and have a more

02:23:41 optimistic view of what black culture i do online i said i said because you kind of made a

02:23:48 generalized statement about certain women that do sex work on only fans and stuff like that i said

02:23:52 i'm not a part of the sex worker community i'm talking about what i do because you you said that

02:23:58 i don't deserve chivalry because of what i post online yeah i said okay what i do the most that i

02:24:03 do is twerk so in my community because i date inside my community now um what i do community

02:24:10 the black community your black culture african-american men black culture yes and so they 0.98

02:24:14 don't look at somebody uh twerking right we're not talking about somebody that's having sex online 0.99

02:24:21 getting naked would you twerk in a church well we're not we're not talking about church we're 0.98

02:24:26 dating no no i understand that don't ever let me finish though so do you want me to finish well i

02:24:31 mean okay you got what i was saying was i date within my community so they're there i always

02:24:36 get treated with chivalry because nobody looks

02:24:38 at me doing a little twerk

02:24:40 online as me

02:24:42 disrespecting myself, me degrading myself

02:24:45 because that's just

02:24:46 because how us 1.00

02:24:48 black women twerk, that's 1.00

02:24:50 how we dance. But there are 1.00

02:24:52 black people who are going to be like... There are kids 1.00

02:24:54 that twerk at black functions, you know what I'm saying? 0.95

02:24:57 But 0.98

02:24:57 that's what I'm saying, like, I don't know.

02:25:00 But I don't think, first off

02:25:02 there's obviously, like, not all black

02:25:04 people are going to agree with your position. 0.83

02:25:06 there's probably there there's going to be black people who are going to reject your framing

02:25:10 that like you know what twerking is okay so what so what culture is twerking a part of please let

02:25:19 me know i didn't say that black culture is you suggest that i didn't say black culture is well

02:25:24 black culture is more than exactly but i never said that you didn't say you never asked me hey

02:25:30 what is black culture my response was not oh it's twerking you i was no you gave it yeah no

02:25:36 you gave it as one example 0.82

02:25:38 I'm not, hold on, I'm not trying to make it

02:25:40 all, the only

02:25:42 component of black culture 1.00

02:25:44 is twerking

02:25:45 that was the first thing you alluded to

02:25:48 when I was asking what's the difference in the culture

02:25:50 and you said, well, twerking

02:25:51 no, that's not what happened

02:25:54 that's exactly right

02:25:55 does anybody else here want to

02:25:58 did I say that 1.00

02:26:00 black culture is twerking 1.00

02:26:01 she was 0.96

02:26:04 saying that

02:26:05 you're saying about the OnlyFans

02:26:08 and that, she's saying it's more prevalent

02:26:10 in her culture, and I know

02:26:12 where it comes from, tribal dances and things

02:26:14 like that, I think that people have

02:26:16 exploited it, you know 0.98

02:26:18 black people and white people have 0.99

02:26:20 exploited the 0.85

02:26:22 act of twerking, and made it

02:26:24 like super raunchy, you know, having to just

02:26:26 relate to sex completely, but what

02:26:28 she's saying is like, it's, yeah, it is

02:26:30 primarily in like the

02:26:32 African American sector, I guess you

02:26:34 okay but i don't understand if we're talking about chivalry if we're if we're gonna have 0.86

02:26:39 talk about chivalry even if i yeah okay fine you said that uh twerking is more prevalent

02:26:44 that's what she said what i'm saying is that's that's all i have done like that's that's the

02:26:50 that's the that's the most ratchet i get on only fans i don't most ratchet most ratchet you get

02:26:57 no if if you because that's how you're looking at it if you do anything ratchet you don't deserve

02:27:02 chivalry but that's but but that's what i'm saying the reason why you look at certain platforms a

02:27:08 certain way because you assume that people do certain things right because that's how you're

02:27:13 looking at it is a white man so what i'm saying is in my culture if a woman is twerking right

02:27:19 she's not naked you know i'm saying she's not she's not being like overly sexual that's not

02:27:25 looked at as oh she doesn't deserve chivalry you might view that because you're a white man 1.00

02:27:30 But that's just how certain women dance. 1.00

02:27:31 There's certain circumstances to where, you know what I'm saying, like, but you just wouldn't get it. 1.00

02:27:36 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

02:27:36 But I never said that, oh, black culture is twerking. 1.00

02:27:39 I said that's a part of the culture that I date. 1.00

02:27:40 I bet. 1.00

02:27:41 So men wouldn't look at a woman who is twerking. 1.00

02:27:45 You know, she's not having, she's not, you know, doing porn and stuff like that. 1.00

02:27:48 They wouldn't look at that as, oh, she doesn't deserve shit. 0.99

02:27:50 But do you think black elders view twerking as something that's positive or negative? 0.99

02:27:57 I mean, we're not talking about that, but I'm going to be honest with you.

02:27:59 But at family functions, there are some older people that they encourage to go out there, baby, do your little dance.

02:28:04 That's just how we are at our functions.

02:28:07 But you wouldn't understand that.

02:28:09 What am I failing to understand because I'm white?

02:28:13 Because you don't have a, you don't, your family doesn't get together and y'all don't dance how we dance.

02:28:19 Well, I understand that cultures dance differently and so forth.

02:28:24 But twerking, especially doing so, I mean, when you twerk, you do so like privately.

02:28:30 Privately and publicly.

02:28:31 You take twerking videos, and are you wearing something that is a bit revealing when you do so?

02:28:37 Yeah, like probably some underwear, some jeans.

02:28:40 Some underwear.

02:28:40 It could be jeans, it could be in a dress. 1.00

02:28:42 And that underwear is pulled up tight, and your pussy lips are popping out of the underwear, and if the fabric moved over one inch to the left, I would see your butthole. 1.00

02:28:52 But people don't see my butthole. 1.00

02:28:54 They don't see the butthole, but if it moved over one inch to the left, they would. 0.99

02:28:57 But it doesn't. 0.62

02:28:57 But would they see the butthole? 0.74

02:28:59 But it doesn't answer the question. 0.94

02:29:01 That's what makes the difference, right? 1.00

02:29:03 So the difference would be if somebody had their asshole out online. 1.00

02:29:06 Do you get what I'm saying? 0.99

02:29:08 So there are people who have.

02:29:10 There are.

02:29:10 You get what I'm saying?

02:29:11 Have you ever twerked in a G-string and posted it on OnlyFans?

02:29:15 Yeah. 1.00

02:29:17 I don't care if you're white. 1.00

02:29:18 But you don't see my asshole. 1.00

02:29:19 I don't care if you're black, white, purple, green. 1.00

02:29:22 People do that on Instagram.

02:29:24 Do people not do that on Instagram?

02:29:26 It doesn't matter.

02:29:28 That is my point. 1.00

02:29:29 they hoes guess what what's your definition of a hoe somebody who sleeps well i'm using i'm using 1.00

02:29:34 the term hoe in a hyperbolic sort of way but like a hoe is just like uh someone who's either 0.99

02:29:39 promiscuous or somebody who you can you can be a hoe in how you dress no yes yes um but also just 0.99

02:29:47 your general sort of behavior posting in being nearly naked twerking and posting that shit on 1.00

02:29:54 only fans so men can send you money and masturbate to your content that's sex work you don't deserve 1.00

02:30:00 people do it on instagram okay so the point is if those people are not smart enough to twerk on 0.99

02:30:07 only fans that is let me let me get in here for a second that is one thing let me get in here so 1.00

02:30:14 there's i'm not debating you that of course like women are posting this shit on free platforms 1.00

02:30:20 They're posting it on Instagram, on Twitter, they're going to post it on Facebook, they're going to post it on MySpace, they're going to post it on any fucking platform there is. 0.99

02:30:27 The debate is not about which platform it's being posted on.

02:30:30 It's the fact that the content exists, but the platform you're posting it on does create an addition. 0.68

02:30:36 Like, for example, if a woman worked in a brothel and she just, like, left it at that, I would assume she's a prostitute. 0.98

02:30:47 Now, of course, it's logically possible a woman could work in a brothel, and she's like the cleaning lady or some shit. 0.99

02:30:52 But that's the definition of a brothel. 0.98

02:30:54 The definition of certain platforms is not just that.

02:30:57 Right, but if, okay, do you agree with me that OnlyFans has a stigma?

02:31:04 Just like white men have a stigma, black women have a stigma, X has a stigma, every platform has a stigma. 0.60

02:31:11 But does OnlyFans have a reputation for being a platform for sex work? 0.93

02:31:16 That doesn't matter. 1.00

02:31:17 It has a reputation because there are sex workers on there. 0.99

02:31:20 But guess what?

02:31:21 If you go on OnlyFans and you read their description, there are TV shows on OnlyFans that don't have nudity.

02:31:26 They don't have sex. 0.87

02:31:28 It's a sex worker platform. 1.00

02:31:29 It doesn't matter. 0.58

02:31:30 It's not a sex worker platform. 1.00

02:31:31 It's a sex worker platform.

02:31:32 If you go to OnlyFans and say, hey, is this a sex worker platform, they're going to say no.

02:31:36 You know what?

02:31:38 I can upload this podcast to Pornhub.

02:31:41 Does that mean that Pornhub isn't a porn platform?

02:31:44 It doesn't matter.

02:31:44 But guess what?

02:31:45 I wouldn't screw up.

02:31:46 for getting your money for finessing.

02:31:48 You know what? I can upload video game.

02:31:50 Do you see my point?

02:31:52 If you upload this

02:31:54 on Pornhub and you make money, I'm going to say

02:31:56 congratulations. You should be from St. Louis

02:31:58 because you're a finesser.

02:32:00 If there is a platform online...

02:32:01 This is my thing.

02:32:04 I know I'm an attractive woman. I know I'm beautiful.

02:32:06 I know I have a nice body.

02:32:07 I know people want to see it.

02:32:10 I know people want to see me do more. I'm never going to do more.

02:32:12 But guess what? If I know that they're going to

02:32:14 spend their coin i'm gonna put myself on the platform where there's youtube of whatever it

02:32:20 doesn't mean that i'm a sex worker that's not that's not the point in any case but the point

02:32:24 was you said because i'm on the if a woman is on that platform she doesn't deserve yeah but let's

02:32:29 not you're not exactly making like cooking videos on there you are engaging i would i actually plan 0.68

02:32:35 to you're engaging in sex work on the platform it's not sex okay no it is sex work and here's 0.91

02:32:41 So, okay, if you are generating revenue, like if your content is produced with the sort of understanding that this content is specifically essentially made for men to masturbate and come to, then you're basically a sex worker. 0.90

02:32:56 But it's not because guess what? 0.72

02:32:57 Some people are fans and they want to support, which is why I got on the platform.

02:33:01 There are a lot of people that...

02:33:02 They're fans?

02:33:03 Hell yeah.

02:33:04 I do music.

02:33:05 I have a big platform as well.

02:33:07 There are people who are fans of me that...

02:33:09 But they can listen to your music on YouTube.

02:33:10 You know what Instagram does?

02:33:12 You know what Instagram does to me?

02:33:13 Tell me what they do.

02:33:14 I don't talk about. 1.00

02:33:16 Tell me how Instagram keeps the black woman down. 1.00

02:33:19 Well, I don't know about that, but I know about me, right?

02:33:22 Because I am curvy.

02:33:23 They're keeping me down, Instagram.

02:33:24 Because, no, I'm going to tell you.

02:33:26 Tell me.

02:33:26 TikTok banned me because I wore tan pants.

02:33:31 I'm too curvy.

02:33:31 You're too thick.

02:33:32 Exactly.

02:33:33 Facebook does the same thing.

02:33:34 You know what? TikTok's fucking racist. 1.00

02:33:36 They are. 1.00

02:33:36 We're going to team up because TikTok's been fucking with me, too. 0.99

02:33:39 I'm not teaming up with you. 1.00

02:33:40 The white man and the black woman are going to team up. 0.99

02:33:44 No, hey, we're going to team up, and we're going to take down. 0.99

02:33:46 If you're serious, I will.

02:33:48 I'm serious. 0.99

02:33:49 But I ain't fucking with you right now. 1.00

02:33:50 You don't fuck with me? 1.00

02:33:50 I ain't fucking with you right now. 1.00

02:33:51 I thought we fucked. 1.00

02:33:52 No. 0.99

02:33:53 But let me tell you, Instagram, and that's the reason why I didn't.

02:33:56 No, because you play too much.

02:33:58 Yeah.

02:33:58 I am not playing. 1.00

02:34:01 That black culture is twerking. 1.00

02:34:02 I'm not playing. 1.00

02:34:02 But no, let me tell you.

02:34:03 Let me finish telling you.

02:34:04 The reason why I'm on there, because social media platforms, they stereotype me.

02:34:10 When I post myself, I could be fully clothed, jeans, because of my shape.

02:34:15 They will take my videos down.

02:34:18 They will say, sir, they will say that I am soliciting people, right?

02:34:22 I shoot music videos, right?

02:34:23 So when people inquire about booking or being on my podcast, I send them a price list.

02:34:27 It has nothing about sex, dates, or anything.

02:34:29 You know what they'll do?

02:34:30 They will restrict my account.

02:34:32 They will delete the message if they do all these things.

02:34:34 That's terrible.

02:34:35 Exactly.

02:34:36 Because I'm a black woman, I look this way.

02:34:38 And it's AI. 0.98

02:34:39 the ai is fucking everything up so i don't even have a leg to stand on so what i do is i take 0.97

02:34:44 myself to a platform that has no filter that doesn't matter what i look like if i can post 0.95

02:34:49 myself in my jeans i can post myself in my bikini just because i'm if i posted a picture of myself

02:34:55 in a string bikini right now right on instagram my page is going to get banned my really i have

02:35:01 this is a brand new page that i have yes yes that's messed up because i see people doing that

02:35:06 all the time but you see my point so people want to see me because i'm beautiful and i have a nice

02:35:10 body so if i put myself on a platform like only fans go get your money just get it yeah and i 0.84

02:35:15 post the same shit that i okay are you paying attention to me no she i'm of course okay so 0.71

02:35:22 so if i post the same things on only fans that other people can post on instagram 0.98

02:35:28 i will get paid for you get i'm saying i'll get paid for it my page won't get banned now if i

02:35:33 could post myself in a string bikini or some tan pants on tiktok and instagram and get paid like

02:35:39 everybody else i would do that but i can't because these platforms they stereotype me they they flag

02:35:44 me i don't want my page taken again you know what i'm saying so if i can get on only fans 0.96

02:35:48 that's bullshit yeah they do and so my shit is gets fucked up yeah so if i get on only fans and 0.99

02:35:54 i'm posting myself the same shit that i will post on instagram and y'all want to pay me because y'all 1.00

02:35:58 I think y'all are going to see some of this on y'all. 0.97

02:36:00 Okay, but so back to the main thing.

02:36:03 Look, my primary argument here is that, just to be clear, I'm not saying women should be disrespected or mistreated.

02:36:10 However, when it comes to chivalry, that's a very specific sort of treatment.

02:36:14 And I believe women should be ladylike in order to deserve chivalrous treatment.

02:36:19 you'll still now i fully acknowledge that women will still get the treatment even if they're not 0.99

02:36:25 ladylike or you know they're not moving in a traditional way you'll still get traditional

02:36:30 treatment from men which from like a bird's eye view down analytical uh framework that's 1.00

02:36:37 unfair and kind of bullshit but the world is unfair so women will still get traditional 0.96

02:36:44 treatment while they're not being traditional women. My argument is very simple. If you're 0.99

02:36:49 a woman and you want traditional treatment, the fair proposition is you should be a traditional 1.00

02:36:53 woman. But what I see is, is a lot of women who are not traditional in various ways, it could 1.00

02:36:59 either, they could either be sex workers or they could not be sex workers, but they're feminist or 0.97

02:37:04 they're not, maybe they're not necessarily fully feminist, but they're, they're moving in a way 0.92

02:37:08 that is not traditional. It could be promiscuity or it could just be their ideological, uh, 0.96

02:37:14 uh, their, their ideological, um, view, I guess. So if they're progressive, if they're

02:37:23 Democrat, uh, I, I mean, I guess this would all tie into feminism then. 1.00

02:37:28 What is feminism actually? Uh, feminism is, uh, primarily ugly women who hate men. 1.00

02:37:36 That's primarily it, but the, the more serious, as serious of a definition that you can give to 1.00

02:37:43 feminism because it's newer right it's like well feminism's been around for over 100 years but 0.99

02:37:48 uh i mean the the the serious definition of feminism would be well i have two so the first

02:37:57 one would be uh women's advocacy um period the second one would be women's advocacy plus

02:38:07 man-hating plus anti-male rhetoric that's my true sense of what feminism is okay so it's women's

02:38:17 advocacy plus uh and so they're pushing like the hatred of the just the males yeah as a whole

02:38:27 yeah demonization of men um essentially what what uh they're trying to do is um because they

02:38:35 keep perpetuating uh most of their their commonly cited statistics as to like the victimization of

02:38:43 women it's completely overinflated so when you present a like for example if i were to present

02:38:49 this to like a racial statistic being like and lying about it and saying like okay black people

02:38:54 commit like black people commit more percent of crimes or whatever but like not just i mean that

02:39:01 is factually true but that's a separate from the point um if i was going ahead on top of that so 1.00

02:39:07 it is true that men are commit more violent crimes right but what feminists do is they they completely 1.00

02:39:12 warp and misrepresent and like skew the data change the data um claim that like the the incidence rate 1.00

02:39:20 of victimization for women among certain crimes is way higher than it is this is going to create

02:39:26 like a panic in women that otherwise really doesn't need to exist. And then secondly,

02:39:32 it's going to create a much easier framework. Like if you say that this certain crime happens

02:39:37 one out of a hundred times as compared to one in four, one in three, one in two,

02:39:42 that basically creates exponentially more demonization of men. And so

02:39:53 uh feminism has a long history of completely like frauding their bullshit statistics um and then 1.00

02:40:02 just their entire their core structure the core structure of feminism it relies on this patriarchy 1.00

02:40:08 theory which basically posits that uh the story of his uh the story of history is one of gender 1.00

02:40:15 struggle basically it's like marxist ideology but for retarded feminists um the the instead of a 1.00

02:40:22 class struggle the story of history it's a gender struggle and it's the story of men as oppressor 0.95

02:40:28 as a class and women as oppressed as a class and so if you teach women hey 50 of the population

02:40:37 is evil and bad and they want to like keep you oppressed and they are the oppressor and you

02:40:45 are oppressed and you're disadvantaged in every possible way uh possible then yeah that's going

02:40:52 create massive amounts of resentment in women towards men um and uh there's i could go on and

02:41:00 and you can see that it's like amped up as the years go by it just gets like worse and worse

02:41:05 you think i mean i would say yeah in the past 10 years do you think that me too what do you think

02:41:11 about the me too movement that's all part of that i mean i think that's when it kind of started 0.99

02:41:16 getting even a little bit more kind of intense yeah well i think feminists at least somewhat 0.98

02:41:24 like 10 or 20 years ago at least somewhat attempted to hide their man hatred but now 0.97

02:41:30 they're pretty much it's completely masked off and um i mean uh you think it's rooted because

02:41:40 of their experience with say some bad ones and then they just well of course there's there's bad

02:41:46 people out there there's bad men there's bad women yeah sure um my my criticism of the well women

02:41:54 have and look i'm going to go ahead and say yeah women do have bad experiences with men we also

02:42:00 would have to examine what are the bad experiences that men have with women but that is often

02:42:04 overlooked i think the big thing here though is i kind of don't like that framework because we have

02:42:10 to treat people as individuals and so when and it's very easy to get caught up in that because

02:42:19 it gives you a an excuse for your shitty life um to to have an out group that you can blame for how 0.88

02:42:25 your life is a failure like a scapegoat essentially men are scapegoats for feminists but 0.97

02:42:30 But I reject it because if you reject women, or rather, if you accept women who say, well, I've had one, two, three, four, five bad experiences with men, more, less, whatever it is.

02:42:44 And so because I've had these bad experiences with men, and many times these experiences with men can be really bad.

02:42:50 Women can be victims of sexual crime.

02:42:52 They can be victims of assault, whatever.

02:42:55 So certainly women do and can be victimized by men in horrific ways.

02:43:01 However, if we accept that if I've been victim of a crime and the perpetrator was a man,

02:43:09 therefore I have some justification for my animosity towards men, my hatred towards men, 1.00

02:43:15 therefore it's justified, therefore it's warranted, 0.99

02:43:18 we're going to have to be willing to apply that same logic to the racial component too. 1.00

02:43:24 And that's where these people completely crumble because oftentimes feminists are liberal, woke-minded, and they're going to tell you racism is terrible. 1.00

02:43:32 Racism is one of the worst sins that you can commit, and I would tend to agree. 1.00

02:43:37 Well, it's not the worst thing, but racism is bad, right?

02:43:41 And so you would flip it on them and say, okay, well, say I've had one, two, or three bad experiences with a black person. 0.55

02:43:50 does this now give me justification to hate all black people that would be racism that would be 0.92

02:43:55 wrong right but then they can't quite they cannot um they can't separate that they can't reconcile 0.95

02:44:03 okay i feel i i hate men i dislike men because of my bad experiences with men but i would have

02:44:11 i would have a massive issue with a white person having racial uh animosity because they've had

02:44:18 bad experiences with a, say a black person, for example. So it's like hypocrisy is what you're 0.90

02:44:22 saying. Well, it's not necessary to some degree, a little bit, but, um, well, it would also be

02:44:30 hypocrisy because if a man were to say, um, I hate women because I've had one or two, two, 1.00

02:44:35 three bad experiences with women, women would rightly, uh, feminists would rightly say, 1.00

02:44:41 well, that's wrong. You shouldn't hate an entire group of people just because you've had one or 1.00

02:44:46 two, three bad experiences with a few of them, or even with a lot of them, you still, I don't think

02:44:52 it's fair. Yeah. I mean, that's, those are valid points. Thanks for explaining it.

02:44:59 So the same way, like, for example, I would reject the idea that if you, whatever race you are, but

02:45:06 like, just to use the, I guess the simple example, if you're a white person and you've had a bad

02:45:11 experience with a black person, I don't think that that should, that should not be your

02:45:15 justification to then become a racist and hate black people that's unfair you need to treat

02:45:20 people as individuals individuals in that same way then um women who've had bad experiences with men 0.90

02:45:25 you should not go on and hate hate men hate all men because of those bad experiences so do you

02:45:31 think that that's why women are feminist because they had bad experience with men or you don't

02:45:36 oftentimes they're looking at bigger issues like you know women weren't always um able to vote 0.99

02:45:40 women still don't get the same opportunities as men their wages are different when they have the

02:45:45 same job but me personally I'm not a feminist you know I'm saying but I'm just I'm just playing 0.95

02:45:50 well actually many many like feminists throughout history there's one feminist in particular I can't

02:45:56 actually remember her name but in some of her later work she actually admitted a feminist admitted 0.72

02:46:02 that she mostly just did it to annoy her father oh my gosh so a lot of and she admitted that she 0.54

02:46:07 had a poor relationship with her father um so i do actually think that a lot of these feminists 0.80

02:46:12 uh a lot of it is just due to um yes they're bad experiences with men not really um not really 1.00

02:46:22 due to any actual uh desire to actually see social change but rather to um sort of annoy men

02:46:32 but you know in your title for today's show yeah you said brian versus

02:46:39 and like number of feminists i just assume i guess i just assume all women are feminists 0.93

02:46:46 until proven otherwise but you know no then that's the hypocrisy right there

02:46:51 because i didn't even know the definition of it you know yeah i mean i'm being a bit 0.92

02:46:56 joking here i guess but do you know there are thousands of feminist organizations in the united

02:47:03 states who are fighting for the rights of women and there are only five organizations that fight

02:47:10 for the rights of men and despite that despite that you know women and men still date so they're

02:47:17 not doing such a good job you know however many there are uh well date and get married and have 1.00

02:47:24 children uh sure but what's yeah well my point is you're saying feminists feminists maybe some 1.00

02:47:32 women that you see on the surface who act like as you say feminists there is some number of them 0.98

02:47:38 but majority are not so the reason you're seeing them is because they're on social media they are

02:47:45 inadequate they're posting all kind of uh all kind of like crazy uh crazy video like to support

02:47:51 Lindsay Clancy or whatever it is like they're doing all this you know posting online and you're

02:47:59 seeing those crazy people uh exhibiting themselves and the reason you sort of associate all women 0.99

02:48:06 with them is because you know SHIT floats so they are on the surface that's what you see 0.99

02:48:12 uh well I mean here's the thing though is um I would say the majority of women are feminist 1.00

02:48:19 is the thing i i think so they didn't say something so i mean obviously there are women

02:48:25 who are not feminists and then there's going to be women who are degrees of feminist the desire

02:48:30 to have equal rights with men equal rights is not really a feminism it's just it's just the society

02:48:38 comes to a point when you just have no choice you just have to give of course well we always

02:48:47 have choices, but I mean, there is a component, though, and I know it's in your notes.

02:48:57 My, I actually am somewhat against universal suffrage. So what this means is some people

02:49:03 say repeal the 19th. They just want to get rid of women's right to vote. I actually am 0.83

02:49:09 a bit more interested in, you know.

02:49:14 I agree with you on that. I know what you're saying.

02:49:16 So, yeah, so I want to get rid of kind of, I want stakeholders to be able to vote, whether you're a woman, whether you're a man.

02:49:24 So you should be a net taxpayer.

02:49:26 If you're a burden to society in some way, I don't think you should be able to vote.

02:49:30 And if you're not contributing in some way now, you could do this in a couple different ways, like land ownership, something like that.

02:49:37 But I would say, like, net taxpayer, then you should be able to vote. 0.99

02:49:41 But if you're just, if you're fucking useless, you shouldn't be able to vote. 0.99

02:49:45 It's a conversation without representation, right? 0.99

02:49:47 So if you're paying taxes.

02:49:49 Yeah, but if you're, okay, but if you pay $1,000 in taxes,

02:49:53 but you take $10,000 a year in benefits, you're a negative.

02:49:57 That's net negative.

02:49:58 Net negative.

02:49:58 That's not, it's like I wouldn't consider it paying taxes.

02:50:03 I wouldn't consider it that someone contributed to society, right?

02:50:06 Okay, so you're saying net positive.

02:50:07 Net positive, of course.

02:50:08 So I would be in favor of a net positive system, which would, I mean, 1.00

02:50:13 more men are net positive 0.98

02:50:16 taxpayers than there are women. That's fine. But it's 1.00

02:50:18 not along the gender lines.

02:50:20 Yeah, it wouldn't be gendered. I wouldn't have any issue

02:50:22 with net positive female 1.00

02:50:24 taxpayers voting. Okay. 0.99

02:50:26 ID? Are you for a voter

02:50:28 like ID? Oh, of course. Yeah.

02:50:30 People who are against it are retarded. 1.00

02:50:33 Why should you not 1.00

02:50:34 have... You need an ID to buy

02:50:36 alcohol. Yes, for everything.

02:50:38 For everything. You need an ID

02:50:40 to...

02:50:42 How do you not have an ID?

02:50:44 So, of course, you need to have an ID.

02:50:45 And also, it's actually racist, the people who say, who are against it, because they're suggesting that, because they often argue, well, people of color would, it's harder for them to, no, hold on.

02:50:58 Black people, Latinos, they know how to get IDs.

02:51:01 Yeah. 0.93

02:51:02 Like, it's the bigotry of low expectations.

02:51:04 so the idea like all these democrats who say oh well people the people of color communities would

02:51:13 suffer because of voter id it's like wow that's super racist like so i don't know i guess it's

02:51:19 because i'm just gonna say i am part of the black community you're not so there's there are certain

02:51:23 things that i see in my community that are very unfair that you would never experience

02:51:26 so kind of like in the same way that you're saying oh only people that are net positive or

02:51:32 that contribute x amount should be able to vote but guess what everybody doesn't get the same

02:51:36 opportunity to become that so we're looking at education we're looking at um underserved

02:51:41 communities you know i'm saying like i have i have personally tried to help people who didn't

02:51:46 have an id at this born to you girl i'm just asking you want me to stop talking no it's just

02:51:53 yawning okay that was in the fake anyway so i personally tried to help someone get their id

02:51:59 So right now the real ID requirements are that you have your birth certificate, you have your social security card, or an insurance card and stuff like that.

02:52:07 So someone who is homeless that doesn't have these things, you can't go get your social security card because guess what?

02:52:13 You don't have your birth certificate or you don't have insurance, okay?

02:52:16 So then when you try to go get your birth certificate, you need your ID.

02:52:20 You need certain things.

02:52:21 So a person that's homeless or doesn't have the same opportunities, they're not able to get an ID as easily.

02:52:29 Yeah, I don't think homeless people should have.

02:52:31 Is it possible?

02:52:31 What's the point?

02:52:32 What's the point that you're trying to make?

02:52:33 Are you trying to make?

02:52:34 If you let me finish my point, I'm going to tell you my point.

02:52:37 Okay.

02:52:38 So let's just say.

02:52:40 Okay, I'll be up back.

02:52:41 You guys can.

02:52:42 Anyway, so let's just say.

02:52:44 You debate.

02:52:46 Let's just say that I have a name that society would deem as ghetto.

02:52:51 Let's say my name is LaKeisha Tana, right?

02:52:55 Let's just say your name is... 0.98

02:52:56 Didn't you just get on her about interrupting?

02:53:00 Yes, I got on her not about interrupting.

02:53:02 So if you be quiet, you can let me make my point.

02:53:04 I got on her about hijacking the conversation, hijacking, not interrupting.

02:53:09 If you're quiet, you can let me make my point.

02:53:11 Yeah, please.

02:53:12 So like I was saying, if you and I both apply to the same job,

02:53:15 and my name is LaTana Kia Jackson, and your name is Ashley Williams,

02:53:21 they're going to judge me they're going to say this is a black one they're going to give you the

02:53:25 job first I've seen it done firsthand I worked in corporate America for America for a very long time

02:53:30 and I was friends with people in higher levels and they will outright tell me that we because 0.90

02:53:35 we would have corporate parties they would be getting drunk doing coke and all that shit and

02:53:38 they were outright tell me yeah I didn't I didn't give her the job because well and they would laugh

02:53:42 about it I I literally I trained two of my cousins to work at my sales job I was making six figures

02:53:48 at my sales job i wanted to give one of my cousins an opportunity one of my cousins that was overly

02:53:53 qualified for the job did not get the call back from the interview but my other cousin did because 1.00

02:53:58 she was lighter skinned she had pretty eyes and she had that slim athletic body they called her

02:54:04 back for interview and i i told my cousin not to come because i'm like that's not fair so how can

02:54:08 you sit up here and hold everybody to the same standard when okay people and people in our

02:54:13 community are judged based off of our names off of things that they they can't help you can't help 0.86

02:54:19 what your parents name you but because your your name looks too ghetto you're not going to get the 0.58

02:54:23 call back for the interview so if you don't have an equal opportunity at certain jobs how can you 0.65

02:54:27 make a certain amount of money you know what i'm saying like so and this this is this is where my

02:54:31 community struggles with so i can speak about it okay let me ask you this question yeah you have 0.92

02:54:37 a lot of uh people who come from other countries immigrants do you think you have less opportunity 0.59

02:54:44 than someone who comes from a different country for example when i came in i did not speak english

02:54:50 at all at all and i had less opportunities than you did if you think about it there are many people

02:54:57 who don't speak language and they come in and they're still working and they're still making

02:55:01 it and they're not complaining complaining and they're not saying they were victims you know

02:55:06 Who is they, your people?

02:55:07 Because you can't speak. 1.00

02:55:08 No, I'm saying immigrants. 0.82

02:55:10 I have friends that are Mexican.

02:55:11 Guess what?

02:55:11 They have the same struggle because guess what? 1.00

02:55:14 The typical white man will look at a Mexican like they're dirty. 0.99

02:55:17 I've heard it out of my own mouth. 0.98

02:55:19 Like I said, I worked in corporate America close with the operations manager, the regional manager, and I've heard them say crazy things.

02:55:26 Yes, people are still, people are oppressed because of their skin color and their ethnicity.

02:55:31 It happens.

02:55:32 And so that's not just a handful of people.

02:55:34 That's a vast majority of people.

02:55:37 So people like Brian, he's a white man.

02:55:39 He's born with an advantage.

02:55:40 You get what I'm saying?

02:55:41 So he's going to get more opportunities because he's a white man versus me because I'm a black woman.

02:55:46 But you have your opportunities, don't you?

02:55:48 I do.

02:55:49 You have a lot of stuff going on for you, and that's great.

02:55:51 And let me tell you how I got my opportunity, right?

02:55:54 Not because of my education, not because I was qualified, because that wasn't my first six-figure job.

02:56:01 It was somebody introducing me to someone.

02:56:04 So that's what I'm saying.

02:56:07 Somebody probably missed out on the job opportunity that I had that deserved it more than me because they were stereotyped because of their name.

02:56:15 So my question to you is this.

02:56:17 Are you saying that people who get handouts from the government for whatever reason, me, I can get handouts from the government.

02:56:25 And if I do, you know, I shouldn't be voting because what I'm going or who I'm going to vote for are the people who are going to give me those handouts.

02:56:34 that is just it

02:56:35 because your interest is to get

02:56:38 more of it

02:56:38 if I were

02:56:42 getting handouts from the government

02:56:43 that would be my interest too

02:56:45 so I'm saying if I'm at that

02:56:47 position

02:56:49 I should not be voting

02:56:51 I don't agree with that because

02:56:53 there are a few different type of people

02:56:56 that get government assistance or handouts

02:56:58 as you call it

02:56:58 there are people that are working

02:57:01 They only can land a minimum wage paying job.

02:57:06 They have no support.

02:57:08 They're really trying, and they're just not making it, especially in this economy.

02:57:12 It's horrible, and those people do need government assistance, and guess what?

02:57:16 Those people, because I was one of them, okay, but what I did was I got government assistance, and what I did was I created opportunities for myself, but I didn't need it anymore.

02:57:24 Now, there are some people, the other people, who live off of it.

02:57:28 They abuse it.

02:57:29 They get on Section 8.

02:57:30 They don't plan on getting off of Section 8.

02:57:32 They keep having kids so they can get more tax money, you know, and all of those things.

02:57:36 Those are the people who don't contribute to society.

02:57:40 They're taking.

02:57:41 They don't plan on contributing.

02:57:43 They probably shouldn't vote.

02:57:44 And a lot of those people don't vote because they don't care until their benefits get taken.

02:57:49 Honestly, it doesn't matter what you and I are saying because nobody is going to repeal the 19th Amendment and nobody is going to change anything.

02:57:57 So we're just talking about it just for nothing, just to discuss.

02:58:04 But it's not going to change.

02:58:06 It's not going to change.

02:58:07 You've got to understand, it's a podcast.

02:58:08 These are controversial topics.

02:58:10 It's not going to change anything.

02:58:11 It's just entertainment.

02:58:13 But at the same time, how you and Brian just spoke about people who don't contribute X amount to society.

02:58:21 You're stereotyping everybody.

02:58:22 We said net, net.

02:58:25 If you contribute net to society, you have a stake in the country, and that's why you vote.

02:58:31 So how are you looking at it?

02:58:33 Annually?

02:58:34 Let's just say one year I was doing really good, not getting government.

02:58:37 If you draw out more than you contribute.

02:58:41 But this is what I'm saying.

02:58:42 So let's just say me right now, right?

02:58:44 I make well over six figures a year.

02:58:45 I have multiple businesses.

02:58:47 I'm doing really well for myself.

02:58:48 Let's just say I fall on hard times.

02:58:50 You never know what's going to happen tomorrow.

02:58:51 Let's just say I fall on hard times, and next year I need government assistance, and I'm just not making the money.

02:58:58 I'm having mental issues.

02:58:59 I'm going through depression.

02:59:01 So are you telling me that I shouldn't be able to vote?

02:59:03 Yes, that's what I'm telling you.

02:59:05 That's crazy, because guess what?

02:59:07 Something that I may vote for could change my circumstances.

02:59:11 Yes, you will get more handouts.

02:59:15 No, what I'm saying is, but that's what I'm saying.

02:59:18 That's crazy that you think that.

02:59:20 So basically you're telling me that.

02:59:21 You need to have some criteria.

02:59:22 You know, if you go for anecdotal evidence, what someone contributes or doesn't contribute,

02:59:29 and this person is doing this, and they're trying, and another person isn't doing,

02:59:34 you have to have a common rule.

02:59:37 Who's going to scale that, though?

02:59:38 You have to have a common rule that is applicable to everyone equally.

02:59:45 Because you don't have the time or the passion to scale every single person,

02:59:49 receive a government assistance.

02:59:50 I got to move things on a little bit here

02:59:55 but just really quick for you

02:59:57 you don't agree with the voter ID

03:00:01 no we weren't talking about that

03:00:03 I didn't say I didn't agree with that

03:00:07 what's your position on voter ID then

03:00:09 like she said

03:00:10 what's not going to happen

03:00:12 if you scale everyone's circumstances

03:00:14 as to why they don't have an ID

03:00:16 but that's not going to happen

03:00:18 what's not going to happen

03:00:21 Nobody's going to scale every individual individual circumstances to see why they're not paying a certain amount of tax and why they don't have an ID.

03:00:31 Okay, voter ID.

03:00:33 Okay, in order for people to vote, should they have to present an ID or have an ID?

03:00:39 I agree with that, but what I also do think that there should be rules to that, right?

03:00:44 So, like, for example, you can't fly, like you said, you can't do most things without an ID, right?

03:00:47 But let's just say if I have an expired ID or if I don't have the star of my ID, real ID purposes, people still let you fly.

03:00:55 You're technically not supposed to fly.

03:00:57 They will require additional ID verification.

03:00:59 Yeah, I'm just talking about ID.

03:01:01 I'm just talking about ID.

03:01:02 To my point, if you let me finish, I don't think that's a bad idea.

03:01:05 I do think that people should be required to present some form of ID to vote.

03:01:10 But I do think that there should also be other parameters in which they should make exceptions. 0.99

03:01:15 So let's just say if my ID is expired or I might have lost my ID, you know, because that shit happens.

03:01:22 Okay, bring your birth certificate, bring your social security number, bring a picture. 0.81

03:01:25 That's fine. Birth certificate is fine. Like, all that's fine.

03:01:28 Yeah.

03:01:28 That's totally fine.

03:01:29 I say, yeah, if that would be the case, yeah.

03:01:31 But not just, oh, you don't have it. No, you can't vote.

03:01:34 Yeah, but pretty much anyone who – I get the real idea thing is kind of new and annoying, but that's going to be the standard moving forward.

03:01:42 So everyone moving forward is going to have that ID or end up getting it.

03:01:47 But I'm fine with somebody using like a non – like people who are in favor of – like that's for flying, right?

03:01:55 People who are in favor of the voter ID, I'm sure they'd be fine if it wasn't a real ID.

03:02:05 Well, yeah.

03:02:05 I mean you have to identify the person that is given their opinion.

03:02:10 Yeah, I do believe that every person should be able to be verified that's voting.

03:02:13 Yeah, I just said ID.

03:02:14 I didn't say driving license.

03:02:16 Wasn't it like that before, though?

03:02:18 I remember when I lived on the west side, I used to go vote,

03:02:21 and I had to show them my ID, and they would look up my name,

03:02:24 and then I was able to vote.

03:02:26 In California, they cannot even ask for ID anymore.

03:02:29 That was in California.

03:02:30 Well, maybe now.

03:02:31 I'm just saying like 10 years ago or something like that or whatever.

03:02:38 Chivalry?

03:02:38 f why why is everyone saying f what are they saying they're saying f in the chat is a are

03:02:46 we lagging chat f f why why are you saying f f as in frank what what yeah all right why are you

03:02:55 saying f is the stream lagging what why are you saying f f f f you for not explaining yourself

03:03:04 chatter i don't know our stream quality looks okay so i don't know um all right so anyways um okay

03:03:12 let's uh get into some of the show notes here then uh where do we begin why don't we start

03:03:19 one sec why don't we start with uh you pepper yes pepper you had a lot of disagreements so

03:03:28 why don't we why don't we get into some now we'll do some more later um i'm just going to pull up

03:03:33 notes here um so you're a legal immigrant illegal legal legal legal uh if the united states went

03:03:43 to war with russia which may certainly be a possibility in our lifetime would you side with

03:03:47 russia or would you side with the united states what do you think you tell me united states of

03:03:52 course united states of course all right there you go uh okay so um you also wrote that you have

03:03:59 others not listed in your notes, but you already, you listed a lot in your notes. So we'll just

03:04:03 start there. And if there's any other ones at the end, we can definitely get into them. Uh, okay. So

03:04:09 why don't we start with, uh, well, this isn't so much a disagreement, but one of your notes,

03:04:20 you think dating is largely a learned skill and should probably be taught as a extracurricular

03:04:26 subject in high school or even as part of the curriculum uh people receive almost no practical

03:04:33 education on choosing a partner recognizing compatibility communicating expectations or

03:04:38 avoiding predictable mistakes so if you were teaching this class uh would like would you give

03:04:47 prescriptive suggestions like hey men you should pay for dates like if you were the teacher look

03:04:54 I would approach it differently.

03:04:56 I would say that there are different models of relationships where, for example, if you take Christian family, they want what you call submissive woman to a husband when husband submits to God and so on. 0.66

03:05:11 So this is one model of relationships. 0.90

03:05:13 There are models of relationships when people just date for fun.

03:05:17 That's a different model.

03:05:19 So whatever model you pursue, you know, like mini games in a game.

03:05:24 in computer game like mini game

03:05:25 you have prerequisites

03:05:27 you have requirements that you come with

03:05:30 that to the beginning

03:05:31 of those relationships which are

03:05:33 mini game

03:05:34 and you just need to know

03:05:37 what is it to expect and what

03:05:39 the outcome that you're going

03:05:41 to expect from this mini game

03:05:43 so what if one of those is

03:05:45 when we're talking about paying

03:05:47 for dates for example

03:05:49 if you are dating for long

03:05:51 term relationships then you

03:05:53 discuss with your potential partner how you pay for the dates because your goal is to get to know

03:06:01 each other. And if, for example, I know that you are, you present yourself as a resource because

03:06:08 you want some leech to come to you and sort of take your money or sell yourself because you're

03:06:16 sort of going to support someone. So that's... Wait, wait, you think, can you explain that a

03:06:22 further oh of course of course so okay you say i present myself how you present yourself as a

03:06:29 person of means tiffany were you not showing these you present yourself as someone who can

03:06:37 pay for everything my wife is not going to work or my girlfriend is not going to work

03:06:42 so basically you are entering into the relationships with an equal unequal positions

03:06:49 you know so okay and and well so okay how am i presenting myself and then um

03:06:59 women who want a provider of their leeches i don't view it that way but what i said what i

03:07:07 said at the beginning that you have uh different models of relationships right yeah i know so you

03:07:13 have a family for example i have my family my husband and i we contribute to the family to

03:07:21 the betterment of the family whatever whatever it takes each one is doing whatever whatever is

03:07:26 possible okay but explain explain what you said though so you said brian you're portraying your

03:07:31 i didn't quite catch the what you said i do but then you said and you want to date a woman who's

03:07:36 leech yes i'm saying i'm saying that when you when you position yourself yourself on the market

03:07:43 and you're trying to date women to whom you are saying up front that you are going to provide for

03:07:50 them you're going to attract the type of women who want those women and men to be their provider

03:07:59 and this is the only value that they see in you value that hold on that doesn't even what what

03:08:05 you mean doesn't even yeah that doesn't make sense though so how okay saying that you're desirous of

03:08:11 a certain kind of dynamic you're suggesting so the fact that i'm successful uh and that if i was

03:08:19 saying that hold on wait wait i want to use what you just said and apply it differently so okay

03:08:28 Okay. A woman who says that one of her great desires is to have children, and she wants to have many children.

03:08:40 Well, hold on. That's setting yourself up to only be seen as a uterus, which I reject. 0.93

03:08:47 I think a woman can say that she's very desirous of having children and be seen as something that transcends simply just her ability to have children, her uterus, her being a baby maker.

03:09:00 In my case, even though I say, you know what, I am desirous of a, I'm open to a relationship where she doesn't have to work, perhaps that's even preferable, perhaps that's what I want.

03:09:12 How would it then follow that that is the only metric by which or for which a woman would want to date me for?

03:09:20 I didn't say that's the only metric.

03:09:22 I'm saying that when you position it as, at the beginning, when you position it for everyone to know, right, then the kind of women that you attract, they're going to look for exactly that.

03:09:35 And some of them, or many of them, might be looking for someone to support them.

03:09:41 Like Sugar Daddy.

03:09:42 I don't, wait, like what?

03:09:43 Like, look at you, Sugar, or look at you as an ATM.

03:09:46 That's what basically it is.

03:09:49 That's how I feel at least.

03:09:50 Hold on. I think we have to separate a couple concepts here.

03:09:53 I don't think it's wrong for a woman to be desirous of being in a relationship with a man who's a provider

03:10:00 or for her to have a view that she would rather take care of the household and raise the children

03:10:10 and not go off and be a boss babe so we can hire a nanny or have child care. 1.00

03:10:16 That doesn't, I don't see how those, it's assumed that this woman is going to, as you say, be a leech. 1.00

03:10:25 I didn't say that in this case, when she is giving you children, and who is taking care of the children, 0.96

03:10:34 and who creates comfort in your house when you come home, she makes it comfortable for you.

03:10:40 I didn't say that she's a leech in this case.

03:10:42 I just said that when you approach dating, because you asked me, teaching about dating,

03:10:48 all I said, I said there are different models of relationships that people seek.

03:10:53 And for each model of relationships, you need to explain to students what to look for.

03:10:58 Because you find oftentimes, you find, for example, women who want to date for long-term relationships

03:11:05 and men who want just to date for short-term relationships, which don't convert into long-term relationships.

03:11:11 and we have disappointments

03:11:13 and we have problems.

03:11:15 That's what I said.

03:11:16 I said that I would teach children at school

03:11:21 at least how to view

03:11:24 and what are different types of relationships.

03:11:26 Okay, so in the long-term, 0.99

03:11:29 say there's a woman who wants a long-term relationship,

03:11:31 the man wants a long-term relationship.

03:11:34 What should the man do on the first date?

03:11:36 On the first date?

03:11:37 Yeah, should he pay for the date? 0.99

03:11:38 did they have any did they have any communication beforehand oh yeah women love it when you check

03:11:46 in with them before the first date well let me finish i'm gonna finish or they're just meeting 0.99

03:11:51 or they're just meeting blind it doesn't matter well 99 of women are never going to be okay with 0.60

03:11:57 a conversation oh my god it's look maybe you haven't dated oh well you've been married for

03:12:03 33 years women are not going to be cool with the like the guy hey just want to check in um

03:12:11 on the who should pay that's exactly communicate you said communicate no communicate not about 0.99

03:12:18 paying yeah that's what i was asking if you have blind date if you have blind date and you're

03:12:23 meeting with someone for the first time and guy invites you who's going to pay at that at that

03:12:30 particular date or i'm asking you if you if you texted spoke on the phone uh you had zoom

03:12:38 conversation whatever i don't know like what's up uh yeah you you communicated with that person

03:12:44 before you know something about that person then you can discuss already with that person 0.99

03:12:49 yeah women are not going to be happy having a conversation about like if the man's like hey 1.00

03:12:55 just checking in like um how do you feel about going 50 50 that's going to be an issue for a lot

03:13:02 of women you know the society accepts that men pay that's the society okay right they say men

03:13:09 should pay then we have different problems that that arise from that some men what should women

03:13:17 expect what should women yeah what should women do when uh at what early on early on in the same

03:13:25 way that when they go to the date or when when at what point early on before the date first month

03:13:32 before the first date or when or at the date what are you asking let's say how about here's the

03:13:40 timeline three first dates three weeks there's going to be an expectation on the man that he

03:13:46 pay for the dates what expectation can we place on the women on the woman in those first three

03:13:52 weeks let's say if i'm dating if i am a woman and i'm dating someone i'm 20 years old and someone

03:13:58 20 years old student yeah i know that student doesn't have much money i'm going on a date

03:14:05 with a student and i'm student myself we're going together i would expect that we're paying

03:14:11 50-50. Yeah, a lot of women. I would expect that. Okay, a lot of young women, hold on, 1.00

03:14:16 a lot of young women are still going to have an expectation that even their male peers of the 0.99

03:14:21 same age still pay for the date. Secondly, though, why don't we switch it to 30 and 30?

03:14:25 Then you don't date her. What can I tell you? You don't date this woman.

03:14:30 Okay, we're switching it to 30 and 30. Okay, let's switch it. 1.00

03:14:34 So there's not a, like, if you're both 30 and say you both have average careers or whatever,

03:14:38 You both have money

03:14:39 Question then for the first date 1.00

03:14:42 Where does he invite his woman 0.62

03:14:44 Is it a restaurant or a coffee shop

03:14:46 Why is there an assumption that the man is doing the inviting

03:14:49 Well there is always an assumption

03:14:51 An assumption that man is doing the inviting

03:14:53 Right so okay but you're already creating 0.97

03:14:55 Rules for men 0.91

03:14:56 However for you it might be different 0.91

03:14:57 Because you have like women who approach you

03:15:00 There are many men just like you

03:15:02 I'm not talking about me I'm speaking in general

03:15:04 Okay well ideally of course

03:15:06 It's when man has a way 0.99

03:15:08 to get DMs from women. 1.00

03:15:11 You were saying you would have a class. 1.00

03:15:13 You would have, maybe in school, after school, you would have a class.

03:15:17 I don't have a curriculum.

03:15:17 I'm just saying that, in my opinion, this is what's missing.

03:15:21 You're asking me to create a curriculum on the spot for teaching children how to date.

03:15:27 One thing.

03:15:28 I cannot do that.

03:15:28 I'm asking you for one thing.

03:15:30 What would you teach them as it relates to the paying for the date thing?

03:15:35 I would teach them, probably.

03:15:37 The man pays.

03:15:38 That, one second, if a man has means and invites you to a date to an expensive restaurant and you see that it's expensive restaurant, he probably, possibly might be expecting something from you.

03:15:53 So you can raise a question and say, hey, you know, I don't feel really comfortable because it's kind of expensive for me.

03:16:02 I'm not going, what your sign, am I saying something nonsense or what?

03:16:06 go on

03:16:08 go on

03:16:10 go on

03:16:14 is it nonsense in your opinion

03:16:16 I mean you're saying

03:16:18 like I get it okay you're

03:16:20 using an example

03:16:21 I would object going to an expensive restaurant

03:16:25 with a man on the first date

03:16:26 but okay why is it assumed

03:16:28 you're immediately going to

03:16:31 a scenario where okay yes

03:16:32 well now that it's expensive

03:16:35 then 1.00

03:16:36 well, okay, maybe the woman should 0.97

03:16:39 have a conversation about it. I would 1.00

03:16:41 object. I would say, how about

03:16:43 we go to a different place

03:16:44 where we can sit down and talk?

03:16:47 Okay, so somewhere cheaper where the man

03:16:49 still pays. I can go and I

03:16:51 pay for myself. Not necessarily.

03:16:53 Okay, a lot of women are going to have a problem 1.00

03:16:55 with that. It's fine. 1.00

03:16:57 It's fine.

03:16:58 When you're in your 30s, you're probably

03:17:01 dating for relationships, right?

03:17:02 perhaps

03:17:04 I don't know, not in your case

03:17:06 because you know that you grilled her for having

03:17:08 like in four years 100

03:17:09 men and I was wondering

03:17:12 why nobody sees

03:17:13 an irony in that

03:17:16 because it seems like you have the same

03:17:18 issue like her and you were grilling her

03:17:20 for that, like only 1.00

03:17:22 you said that she's the only common problem

03:17:24 in all those men who she rejected

03:17:26 oh well I mean I'd say I've

03:17:28 so that's an irony

03:17:30 which I've seen

03:17:32 not necessarily an irony i i mean what i would point out here is i've actually in recent history

03:17:38 had long-term relationship certainly and more recently than she has and i've definitely look

03:17:45 i'll frame it like this um it wouldn't take me a hundred women to end up in at least a relationship 1.00

03:17:53 that is correct but not in uh in a relationship that's going to last 1.00

03:18:01 So she's looking for someone to date for a long time.

03:18:07 You know what?

03:18:07 We're jumping from one topic to another.

03:18:10 So if you want to go back to dating and paying for the first date, maybe we can go there.

03:18:20 That's exactly what we're talking about.

03:18:21 You're the one who wants to talk about irony.

03:18:24 Oh, irony, yes.

03:18:25 Yes.

03:18:26 Yes, I mentioned irony.

03:18:27 That is correct.

03:18:28 Yeah.

03:18:29 So.

03:18:30 Right. 1.00

03:18:30 i'm trying to keep it on track okay i came back okay all right so i think that women have to

03:18:39 participate i don't think that men should be the ones the ones who are paying like all the way i

03:18:48 think that investment into the relationship has to be equal what i'm trying to get at maybe on a

03:18:55 second what i'm trying to get at is you say your position yes is that and i'm just going off your

03:19:00 notes here. You're saying that there should be, and look, I agree with you that dating is very

03:19:06 messy and people are not having a good time with dating. Men are not happy. Women are not happy.

03:19:13 People will hopefully end up meeting a good person, but there's a lot of struggle oftentimes 1.00

03:19:19 before you do find a good person. And there's a lot of complications when it comes to dating.

03:19:24 uh, social media, these dating apps has not made, uh, it a particularly good time for people.

03:19:32 You were saying that it should be taught. My issue though, is that I believe from you from

03:19:40 probably from your perspective, if you were to, and I'm not asking you, okay, well tell me the

03:19:45 exact, give me a syllabus of everything there would be in a class. You say, well, it should

03:19:49 be taught in school and actually i don't even think that that's the worst idea maybe we could

03:19:54 have a class or something like that i think my criticism here is that if there were to be a class 0.67

03:20:00 it almost inevitably would be i suspect would frame it as this is how men should be this is

03:20:09 what men should do without any mention of any burden on women because it's it's socially

03:20:16 acceptable and okay in society to tell men, you should do this. It's okay. Men should do this.

03:20:23 Men should do that. Men should be willing to die for women. Men should be willing to provide and 1.00

03:20:26 protect. That's not an objectionable position to have. The moment, the moment men say women should

03:20:34 instantly, it digs into this combative nature that a lot of Western women have as it relates

03:20:44 to feminism. And so my issue here is, it's okay, we teach men how to treat women, we teach women

03:20:53 how to expect to be treated, but we don't teach women how to treat men, and we don't teach men

03:21:01 how to expect to be treated. And so this idea that some school would not just fall into this,

03:21:09 all the burden is on men to perform or to act in a certain way and then it would it would be this

03:21:18 honestly this frankly terrible framing that's why i'm asking you what should men do in this

03:21:22 in the payment component because you would probably everything boils down to the burden

03:21:31 is on men we we don't we don't hold women accountable we don't tell women how they should

03:21:37 act or what they should do. It's all about how men should be. And then we teach women,

03:21:42 here's what you should expect. When women say they're romantic, that has nothing to do with 0.99

03:21:48 how the woman acts. It's actually the most hilarious thing. When women say they love 1.00

03:21:53 romance and being romantic, it's as receiver, as receiver of romance, not doer of romance or 0.96

03:22:03 giver of romance. That's exactly why I told you that I would expect investment into the

03:22:08 relationships to be equal from both parties. And if you look into my notes over there.

03:22:13 But you're against submission. I'm against submission. Are you against submission? Yes,

03:22:18 I am. Okay. So what the fuck do men get in a relationship? I'm saying in Christian. Tell me,

03:22:23 tell me what, but okay, hold on. Being submissive in a relationship can exist absent religion.

03:22:29 So I understand it's perhaps easier to procure this because you can just point to scripture if you're both Christian and be like, the fucking Bible tells you to do it. 1.00

03:22:41 Do that shit. 1.00

03:22:42 Whereas it's a bit different if you're both secular or atheist or whatever. 1.00

03:22:47 But you can still negotiate, so to speak, a submissive dynamic absent religion.

03:22:55 But I guess 0.73

03:22:56 That's my confusion here

03:22:58 Is you're against submission 0.99

03:22:59 But you would still hold men 0.92

03:23:02 To a certain traditional

03:23:04 Gender role standard 0.50

03:23:05 Where did I say that I hold men to 0.95

03:23:08 Gender traditional standard

03:23:09 Where does it say

03:23:10 If you check my notes today for example

03:23:13 I did not

03:23:14 Fair enough

03:23:15 But hold on you didn't circle anything here

03:23:18 But when I was asking you

03:23:20 I circled something

03:23:21 But you gave it away when I asked

03:23:23 You made the assumption that the initiative burden falls on men.

03:23:28 That's a traditional gender role that falls on men.

03:23:30 Okay, you made the assumption that men should be the ones pursuing. 0.99

03:23:34 So the men have to ask. 0.74

03:23:36 The men have to expose themselves to rejection. 1.00

03:23:38 So that is a traditional gender role. 0.92

03:23:40 That is just, and it's a privilege is invisible to those who have it. 1.00

03:23:45 Women don't even, because you enjoy the benefit of men coming to you, 0.99

03:23:48 You don't even understand the initiative burden or the rejection pitfall that many men have to deal with. 0.91

03:23:55 You're right.

03:23:55 But this is why I asked you at what stage your relationships are, whether it's a blind date, then someone has to invite someone.

03:24:04 But from the very beginning, the burden exists on the man and the burden continues throughout the course of the relationship.

03:24:11 it often you know diminishes a bit but especially at the beginning it's always the man who has to

03:24:19 make the first you know why majority of the time why because when we woman a woman makes a first 0.93

03:24:24 move it's men love it men love it exactly exactly they say okay she wants me in her pants that's why 0.99

03:24:32 because she made the first the first move and women think when men make the first move that 1.00

03:24:38 he wants to get into my pants well when he makes the first move that maybe we can build relationships 0.99

03:24:43 because we can then date and when she makes the first move maybe these things can happen at the 1.00

03:24:49 same time or maybe we can also build a relationship in some cases in some cases but less women ask 0.99

03:24:55 men out because if you see someone you like you ask him out oh my god i would never you would 0.96

03:25:01 Never?

03:25:02 No.

03:25:02 Okay, you're 51 years old.

03:25:05 Have you ever asked a guy out?

03:25:07 No, because I think it's, well, maybe in my 20s.

03:25:10 Very, very young.

03:25:11 But now I just feel like it's too masculine.

03:25:14 Well, you would have done it, but did you do it?

03:25:17 I did it early on, and then I paid for guys early on that I really liked,

03:25:20 and it didn't get me anywhere.

03:25:22 It kind of took away whatever.

03:25:26 It just didn't work.

03:25:27 So now I'm like, I would feel awkward going up and asking somebody out.

03:25:32 So you're saying guys like that?

03:25:34 But you don't know why it didn't go farther with you, for example.

03:25:41 You don't know why.

03:25:43 So nobody, like, there is no statistics.

03:25:46 You're assuming it's because you asked them out or it's because you paid for them.

03:25:51 So you're assuming it, but you don't know.

03:25:52 But here, look, the criticism I have of you is on one hand, you say in your notes, you're kind of against this submission thing.

03:26:02 You're against it, right?

03:26:03 And so, however, you do hold men to their traditional gender expectations.

03:26:10 And so that's my primary issue.

03:26:13 I grew up in the patriarchy, you know, in Russia.

03:26:16 You know, that was how I was brought up.

03:26:19 So for a woman, it was not possible to ask a man out, but I would, but I would, because

03:26:25 I think that both, both people in the relationship have to invest into relationships, women and

03:26:31 men.

03:26:33 So that's why I'm saying what, what, what, so, okay.

03:26:36 When you say both people, you're holding your hands at equal level.

03:26:40 Yes.

03:26:41 So invest into a relationship. 0.99

03:26:43 Can you articulate to me that a woman invests into a relationship, say in the early stages

03:26:48 to the same degree and same capacity that men do,

03:26:53 all the burden is on men.

03:26:55 All of it.

03:26:57 This is what men feel society.

03:27:00 So men here, women here.

03:27:01 This is what men consider.

03:27:04 That's sort of how men were brought up.

03:27:06 Then why are women rejecting?

03:27:08 I'm saying don't do it. 0.99

03:27:09 Reject, that's what I'm saying.

03:27:10 Don't date her.

03:27:12 No, no, no.

03:27:13 Why?

03:27:13 Okay, if you're saying, well, oh, you know what?

03:27:15 That's just society's expectations.

03:27:17 then it's society's expectations 1.00

03:27:19 that women be submissive 1.00

03:27:21 and they shut the fuck up and they make me a sandwich 1.00

03:27:23 but no that's wrong 0.99

03:27:25 but the moment you say you know what

03:27:27 you're a man and you make minimum

03:27:29 wage and you have to 1.00

03:27:30 in order to take a woman out 1.00

03:27:32 you gotta part with your earned money

03:27:35 to treat her on a date 0.94

03:27:36 that's not what I said

03:27:37 ok so who

03:27:40 it's just 50-50

03:27:42 what's your prescription

03:27:44 I'm looking for a prescription

03:27:46 On one date, he can pay. 0.65

03:27:47 On another date, she can pay. 0.97

03:27:49 No, no, no. 0.81

03:27:50 Who makes the first move?

03:27:51 What would your actual prescription be?

03:27:55 It depends on the two people and on relationships.

03:27:57 What do you mean it depends on the two people?

03:27:59 Okay, not in some, like, utopian world.

03:28:03 In the real world, if you had this class that you want to teach people how to date.

03:28:07 I don't want to teach a class.

03:28:09 I just said.

03:28:10 No, but you said they should teach a class on how to date.

03:28:12 On a second thought, in schools in California, when you have those Democrat teachers who are, like, anti-male, probably it's not going to be a good idea.

03:28:25 Unless you have a curriculum that goes across, like, entire country, federal curriculum, whatever.

03:28:30 I don't know.

03:28:31 It doesn't have to be.

03:28:32 It can be.

03:28:32 But what would the prescription be?

03:28:35 I don't know the prescriptions.

03:28:36 I cannot give you prescriptions.

03:28:38 You're asking me to decide.

03:28:39 Well, yes, because we're exploring this as an idea that you brought up.

03:28:43 Okay.

03:28:44 Is it possible in a classroom setting that a student will ask the dating teacher in the class who's giving, like, here's dating tips and how to, you know, which, look, I think there's merit to it.

03:28:57 A male student says, hey, who should make the first move?

03:29:02 Should I go up to the girl or should – what would your prescription be? 0.99

03:29:07 My prescription would be, if you like the girl, you can ask her out. 0.97

03:29:12 If she likes you, she will ask you out.

03:29:14 Okay, but hold on.

03:29:15 He's saying, like, in a scenario, maybe both of them like each other.

03:29:19 Who should make the first move?

03:29:21 How do they know that they like each other?

03:29:22 They don't.

03:29:23 They don't.

03:29:24 But both of them like each other.

03:29:25 So who should make the first move?

03:29:26 So whoever is faster.

03:29:28 Who's ever faster.

03:29:30 Whoever is faster, if they like together.

03:29:33 Now, okay, but so somebody has to make the first move.

03:29:36 Of course, somebody has to.

03:29:37 If the girl likes the guy, if I like the guy enough, I go and I ask him out.

03:29:45 If he likes me and he comes to me first, I say, of course.

03:29:50 I just don't understand what's the dilemma here.

03:29:53 Okay, so the man has to ask out then.

03:29:57 And the woman has to ask out if she likes him. 0.63

03:29:59 But women don't overwhelmingly.

03:30:02 How is it my problem that women don't overwhelmingly? 1.00

03:30:04 You are telling me women don't ask out, and this is something that I have to be responsible for. 0.98

03:30:13 No, okay, let me try to, the reason I'm asking these questions, the reason I'm trying to get a prescription from you, 0.86

03:30:20 is if you're going to probably say that men should do X, Y, Z, you're going to have to say women should do X, Y, Z, but you won't.

03:30:29 You're not going to say

03:30:31 Women should do anything

03:30:32 Because you're against submission 1.00

03:30:34 Which means you reject traditional gender roles 0.99

03:30:37 For women 0.84

03:30:37 But you're completely okay with traditional gender roles for men 0.71

03:30:41 Traditional gender roles for men look something like this

03:30:43 How do I know that I reject

03:30:44 Taking initiative

03:30:45 Making the first move

03:30:47 Putting yourself out there for rejection

03:30:50 Planning the date

03:30:51 Paying for the date 1.00

03:30:53 What the fuck should women do 1.00

03:30:55 You guys just don't do shit 1.00

03:30:58 That's not true 1.00

03:30:59 It's fucking 100% true. 0.95

03:31:01 You don't do anything. 0.99

03:31:02 We breathe.

03:31:03 Exactly.

03:31:04 That's it. 1.00

03:31:05 What would you say that a woman should do? 1.00

03:31:09 Like on a date, like say you did all these things. 0.99

03:31:11 What are your...

03:31:12 No, no, no.

03:31:13 Hold on.

03:31:13 I'm not going to give that until I get an answer.

03:31:17 What are your expectations? 1.00

03:31:17 I'm not going to answer that until I get an answer on what women should do. 1.00

03:31:23 I already answered you. 1.00

03:31:24 If I like the guy, I'm asking him out. 1.00

03:31:26 Well, women don't do that, which, okay. 1.00

03:31:29 So here, have you ever asked out a guy? 0.99

03:31:32 You're asking me.

03:31:33 Hold on, hold on.

03:31:34 So you're 27.

03:31:35 Have you ever asked out a guy?

03:31:36 No, but I think you can like make it known.

03:31:39 Hold on, hold on.

03:31:39 Okay.

03:31:40 Let me ask a couple of clarifying questions.

03:31:42 So you're 27.

03:31:43 You've never, like, when you say, when I say asked out a guy, so first we'll start with in person.

03:31:49 You've never, either in a classroom setting, a social setting, maybe like a friend group,

03:31:53 you've never like made that first move

03:31:56 in my mind

03:31:58 I kind of have but I've never actually asked

03:32:00 looking at a guy for two seconds does not

03:32:02 count as making the first move

03:32:03 so you've never asked well I feel like you can

03:32:06 make it known yeah the guys have to pick up

03:32:08 on the signals it's like the art of seduction

03:32:10 bro this is here

03:32:12 this is what 1.00

03:32:13 this is what women mean 1.00

03:32:15 when they say they are making a move 1.00

03:32:18 on the guy so say you're like walking

03:32:20 past a guy 0.99

03:32:21 that's it that's the fucking handkerchief well we're not hunters by nature a quarter of a second 0.99

03:32:28 at the guy and that's like meanwhile the guy you don't like oh hey bob oh my god i hope your 0.99

03:32:35 date's going good blah blah so the guys you actually like you fucking basically ignore them 0.81

03:32:40 sometimes it varies it varies natural tension and both people are nervous aren't they okay but 0.86

03:32:45 what's interesting is so in the past four and we don't know your dating history before your

03:32:50 relationship uh in the past four years you've been on a hundred dates and these were almost

03:32:56 all from dating apps almost yeah and this is usually the guy matches you and he's asking you

03:33:03 out um yeah like you're not asking for the number planning the date etc etc no that's not my job

03:33:10 it's not your job which we'll we'll get to trying to even establish what could even conceivably be

03:33:18 a woman's job if a man was her you put a man you put her in a man's body her brain in a man's body 1.00

03:33:27 that's a 27 year old virgin 27 year old virgin uh so women move through life with massive amounts

03:33:36 of privilege never having to take any initiative uh if a man just was like you know what i don't 0.76

03:33:41 ask girls out and i wait for them to come to me they get nothing that's where we're

03:33:48 at these days. Well, uh, but women worse than, worse than years ago. Hold on. But like a girl 1.00

03:33:55 goes to a club, guys will come up to her. A guy goes to a club and just stands there with his 0.96

03:34:00 drink, whatever. No girls are coming to talk to him. He could go out 10 nights in a row. No girls

03:34:05 coming to flirt with him. No girls trying to pursue him. No girls trying to fuck nothing.

03:34:10 So on dating apps, if a guy just does what girls do, which is be very passive and kind of very, 0.99

03:34:18 what's the word 0.94

03:34:19 it's a good word but it's

03:34:22 blanking on me nonchalant

03:34:24 nothing 0.99

03:34:26 fucking nothing so 0.97

03:34:28 I guess what I'm trying to get 0.99

03:34:30 at here is

03:34:31 I don't know

03:34:33 these

03:34:34 at school in this curriculum

03:34:38 that I'm talking about you can

03:34:40 teach women

03:34:42 how to act towards men 0.99

03:34:44 that you can ask them

03:34:46 out

03:34:46 uh yeah sure you can ask them out you can pay for your date you can invest into relationships

03:34:54 equally with the men if you want to teach them that you can build a relationship there would 1.00

03:34:59 be massive resistance um that's fine to this sort of thing uh because women are essentially ingrained 0.56

03:35:05 to still have expectations on men but reject their own duties and responsibilities as it relates to

03:35:12 receiving that kind of treatment you know what i have two grown men my sons yeah okay so i'm four

03:35:22 men believe me so you're trying you're trying to sort of uh position sort of my refusal as i said

03:35:33 to submit you didn't even ask me how then would you have relationships if you don't submit to men

03:35:39 like 100% what would be what would be the relationships then if it is like not 100%

03:35:47 submission to a benevolent man who is on whom I have to rely well my position it's not impossible

03:35:55 and in fact many current relationships modern relationships actually stray significantly away 1.00

03:36:04 from a more submissive dynamic, in reality, you have women who are vexatious and who are nags and 0.97

03:36:12 who completely treat their husbands like doormats and who walk all over them and who call the shots 0.99

03:36:18 and who wear the pants and who browbeat their husbands into basically a shell of their former 0.99

03:36:25 ourselves. So, and look, I, that would be sort of the extreme other direction. I would also say

03:36:34 though, that it is possible that more egalitarian 50, 50 relationships, uh, can work. But

03:36:43 if we're going to hold men to a traditional standard, and we're going to continue saying 0.76

03:36:49 Men should do this, men should do that

03:36:51 Men should be X, Y, Z 0.99

03:36:53 Why the fuck can't we say 1.00

03:36:55 Women should be X, Y, Z and do this 1.00

03:36:57 And do that 1.00

03:36:58 We should say that

03:36:59 We don't and there's massive resistance against it

03:37:02 What do you want me to do about it

03:37:03 I'm not asking you

03:37:06 But I'm not asking you to do anything about it

03:37:09 You're saying that this is part of my

03:37:10 We're having a conversation

03:37:12 You're saying that this was part of my writing

03:37:14 But it wasn't 1.00

03:37:16 I didn't say that women

03:37:18 shouldn't do anything i didn't say it anywhere but that's not my claim i'm making against you

03:37:24 because you you are elaborating that i am not doing something like uh not uh your word

03:37:32 no i'm actually well i can i can actually understand because you're doing this and

03:37:37 you're asking the same question again and again and you somehow no i'm not trying i'm not being

03:37:41 rude even even follow-up you don't have to you don't have to be feisty about it i'm i'm not

03:37:46 intentionally being rude it was an actual yawn it's a physiological thing that is

03:37:52 oftentimes you can't control to some degree accepted okay uh well okay i guess next topic

03:38:00 then uh you wanted to talk about abortion i find the abortion topic somewhat boring but we'll do

03:38:05 i didn't want to i sent you three files uh i have four files yes i have all your notes oh but this

03:38:12 was one of them okay and you said it's your strongest earlier application which has like

03:38:17 very little okay well we'll talk about it for three minutes and then move on that's fine you

03:38:20 say it's just it's your strongest subject yes you believe there should be no legal restrictions on

03:38:26 abortion correct uh you believe the conservative movement movement has made a major strategic

03:38:32 and philosophical mistake by advocating abortion restrictions you've watched many of my abortion

03:38:38 discussions you think they repeatedly miss what is actually the central question and you'd enjoy

03:38:44 testing uh your arguments against mine andrew wilson's or anyone else's on the panel uh you

03:38:51 disagree with advocating legal abortion restrictions and with the analogy comparing military conscription

03:38:56 to okay so those are separate things um and you had a it sounds like a novel argument related to

03:39:03 this really quick though you said no legal restrictions so nine months nine months i wrote

03:39:11 to you uh details okay yeah okay nine months you said no legal restrictions you understand that at

03:39:18 some point when you have nine you you're saying no legal restrictions now if a fetus is already

03:39:24 viable uh 24 weeks right viable or like at 24 weeks you can call it abortion but it can be

03:39:33 induced labor a woman can have induced labor she can have a c-section she can deliver a baby and

03:39:41 put this baby for abortion or for for for adoption yes okay so that's why i'm saying if you don't 0.99

03:39:48 six months six months yes 24 weeks yes 24 weeks six right now right now women do right now women

03:39:56 abort babies you don't want them to abort babies at six months right well i'm asking you well i'm

03:40:05 telling you but hold on no restriction no legal restrictions yes so assume look here's a hypothetical

03:40:11 yes uh a woman is pregnant and then she's on the fence and she's she's back and forth as to what

03:40:19 she does and it's conceivable that a long period of time elapses while she's on the fence right

03:40:25 And this extends into six, seven, eight months, right?

03:40:30 She doesn't want to take care of the kid. 1.00

03:40:33 Can she, no legal restrictions on abortion? 1.00

03:40:36 Can she get an abortion? 1.00

03:40:37 Well, this abortion is going to be induced labor. 1.00

03:40:43 So, okay, does the child survive or not?

03:40:45 Yes, child is likely to survive because it's past the viability date.

03:40:52 Yes, likely.

03:40:53 Likely the child is going to survive

03:40:55 Why not? 0.59

03:40:56 There are premature babies that are born

03:40:59 Then they go in the NICU

03:41:01 And it's hundreds of thousands

03:41:03 Of dollars

03:41:04 There is another option 1.00

03:41:08 Another option is to talk to the woman 1.00

03:41:10 And say look we want you to carry 1.00

03:41:12 The baby to the term 0.94

03:41:13 Here is your compensation

03:41:15 Please do it

03:41:16 We're going to compensate her

03:41:19 No we're going to 1.00

03:41:21 we're going to have government to to so okay a woman at seven months to tell to tell women that 0.98

03:41:26 they have to provide their bodies for uh for use by another person that's what we're going to tell

03:41:31 what okay hold on so a woman who's seven months a woman who's seven seven month pregnant 0.58

03:41:38 goes to the doctor and is like hey you know i don't really want to do this i want an abortion

03:41:43 and then the government steps in and is like okay well we'll pay you ten thousand dollars to see it 0.98

03:41:49 term for example so why how would this not be completely abused by women who actually want to

03:41:55 keep the kid but they're like you know what ten thousand dollars will be nice i'm just gonna lie 0.93

03:41:59 and say i want an abortion well in hand out like so that's completely ridiculous and it would never 0.93

03:42:04 happen um okay but but you want you want to create all these examples let's assume the woman wants 0.96

03:42:10 to kill the the fetus should she should seven months seven months no lee your your position 1.00

03:42:18 no legal restrictions on abortion so forget induced labor she's like nah kill the thing 0.99

03:42:24 because she was like well four weeks ago you would you wouldn't have seen this different right 1.00

03:42:29 well you cannot have abortion as abortion at seven months that of course you can have an

03:42:35 no it's going to be induced labor that's how you get the baby out wait hold on is taking the baby

03:42:40 out wait wait hold on not necessarily i want to preserve the fetus i don't want abortions at all

03:42:46 If it was up to me, I would say, hey, no abortions, no abortions at all.

03:42:52 But hold on. 0.98

03:42:53 But we have a reality when you have people or women who carry babies that they don't want, right? 0.92

03:43:01 But no legal restrictions on abortion. 0.99

03:43:03 So would you have any, say the woman, okay, but hold on. 1.00

03:43:10 But one of the reasons women get abortions early on is because they don't want to be parentally or financially responsible. 0.77

03:43:20 And say it's within six weeks or whatever, or eight weeks or ten weeks, they will be granted an abortion that, like, terminates the life of the fetus in your utero, I guess is the right term.

03:43:37 Yes.

03:43:37 What would actually be wrong with terminating

03:43:40 The life of the fetus in utero

03:43:42 At 40 weeks

03:43:43 At 40?

03:43:46 Sorry

03:43:46 Seven months 0.99

03:43:49 Sorry my fucking months are fucked up 0.99

03:43:52 My bad 0.99

03:43:52 You know

03:43:53 I'm not for killing children at all

03:43:56 I'm saying if you can preserve the life of the fetus

03:44:00 You preserve the life of the fetus

03:44:01 But no legal restriction on abortion

03:44:02 But what's abortion for you? 0.97

03:44:05 Abortion is removing the fetus 1.00

03:44:07 from the woman.

03:44:07 Not necessarily. 0.90

03:44:09 What if the woman doesn't? 1.00

03:44:10 What term? 1.00

03:44:11 Then redefine it.

03:44:13 Define what? 0.63

03:44:14 Redefine abortion at six months.

03:44:17 You say that if someone wants to abort a fetus at six months,

03:44:23 they have to go through induced labor or a C-section.

03:44:27 I'm not an expert in the exact procedure used.

03:44:30 My understanding when you get an abortion, 0.95

03:44:32 you're killing whatever that is.

03:44:34 Now, you might say, well, okay, once it's past the point of viability, and somebody in the chat can maybe correct me because this is not my area of expertise.

03:44:43 Are you arguing that past viability, if you induce an abortion the same way you would induce an abortion?

03:44:51 Hold on.

03:44:52 If you do an abortion the same way you would do an abortion prior to viability, the fetus will be fine?

03:45:00 No, that's not what I'm saying, no.

03:45:01 But no legal restrictions on abortion.

03:45:04 So can a woman, post-viability, get an abortion that would result in the death of the fetus pre-viability? 0.83

03:45:13 Can you repeat this again?

03:45:15 What did you just say?

03:45:16 You're saying no legal restrictions on abortion.

03:45:18 Correct.

03:45:19 And you're saying, well, it would just be inducing, but okay.

03:45:22 If you want to have abortion, it's going to be induced labor.

03:45:25 That's what I'm saying.

03:45:26 I don't know how else I can say it.

03:45:27 So there is a restriction.

03:45:28 So, basically, he's saying, is it okay to still have, like, let's just say if I'm three weeks pregnant.

03:45:35 If you define abortion as killing the baby all the time, killing, like intentionally killing the baby at six months or whatnot.

03:45:42 Okay, hypothetically, here, I'll make it super simple.

03:45:44 I'll make it super simple.

03:45:45 But you can also have a new slave, but if you don't want to carry the fetus, what's the goal? 0.93

03:45:49 Hold on. 1.00

03:45:50 The goal of abortion?

03:45:51 Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. 1.00

03:45:52 Do some women take a pill? 1.00

03:45:54 Now, this is usually only usable early on. 1.00

03:45:57 Right after.

03:45:58 Right.

03:45:58 Um, well, I'm not even talking plan B. There's a pill that, um, after plan B would prevent the

03:46:06 implantation or whatever, or whatever, you know what I'm, you know what I mean? Um, there is

03:46:11 another pill where, okay, the woman's already like plan B wouldn't work on a woman who's already 1.00

03:46:17 pregnant. Um, that wouldn't induce abortion if she's already, you know, the sperm's already, 1.00

03:46:21 whatever okay the pill that works for a period of weeks after she's pregnant nine weeks right 0.84

03:46:30 there's a there's another pill right let's say hypothetically there was a pill that worked all

03:46:34 the way up to nine months a woman just takes a pill boom abortion the fetus is dead uh would

03:46:39 you be okay with that no i don't want fetus to be dead if it's uh you see my question my question

03:46:45 to you is this what is the reason for a woman asking abortion she doesn't want to carry the

03:46:50 fetus she doesn't want to carry fetus for like and then take care of it correct that's why they're

03:46:57 getting rid of the fetus i understand that's that's that's an option past labor adoption but

03:47:04 and i'm and i'm not saying and i'm not saying go abort all children i'm saying teach women what

03:47:09 their options are you have to have in a society you have to have uh early births harm the child

03:47:16 They do, but the child remains alive

03:47:19 If you place value

03:47:22 If you place value

03:47:23 On the life of the fetus

03:47:24 Actually, I don't understand

03:47:27 The induced labor argument 1.00

03:47:29 So the woman 0.96

03:47:33 Has to go through essentially with a pregnancy 1.00

03:47:35 Anyways, or giving birth 0.91

03:47:37 Rather, sorry, not pregnancy 1.00

03:47:39 The woman has to give birth 1.00

03:47:41 Anyways 1.00

03:47:42 So why doesn't she just

03:47:45 see it through well that's my question too why doesn't she see it through you can talk to her

03:47:49 and you can try to convince her you said you you wanted to test the argument or whatever i'm saying

03:47:54 that legally you don't prohibit it but you do everything socially possible to convince women

03:47:59 to carry for example the fetus to viability or to give birth to the baby and give it out for

03:48:07 abortion so you have to do all social means before you have government interfere in commanding the 0.96

03:48:14 woman what to do with her 0.76

03:48:15 forget all that 1.00

03:48:16 you wanted to

03:48:18 test the argument

03:48:22 or something I don't know

03:48:23 was there something specific

03:48:24 on the abortion topic

03:48:26 I said no restriction on abortions

03:48:32 and you can do everything that's socially possible

03:48:33 to convince women

03:48:35 okay but assuming you fail to prevent it 0.97

03:48:38 a woman who is a week 0.99

03:48:40 away from otherwise giving birth

03:48:41 a week away then induced 0.56

03:48:43 labor that's what i said i said induced labor at the time of viability abortion equals induced

03:48:49 labor i don't know how many times and in what different words should i say it again okay uh 0.99

03:48:54 so but then the woman would have no say she doesn't want the kid she's she will not get the 0.94

03:49:00 kid it's like she loses she loses rights immediately uh should she have to pay child

03:49:06 support no the kid goes for adoption let me ask you a question a father who hooks up with a girl

03:49:13 and she gets pregnant and the woman chooses to keep the kid,

03:49:16 should he have to pay child support?

03:49:19 If the courts tell him to pay child support, he has to pay child support, of course. 1.00

03:49:23 So women always get an escape. 0.99

03:49:26 Men don't. Interesting how that works. 1.00

03:49:29 I mean, men participate as much as women do in making a baby. 0.95

03:49:34 Okay, so they shouldn't have an abortion right then? 1.00

03:49:37 Who shouldn't have an abortion? 0.52

03:49:39 I don't understand what you're saying then.

03:49:42 You said men have to pay child support.

03:49:46 I'm saying men equally participated in creating the baby.

03:49:49 Hold on.

03:49:49 But here's the difference, right? 0.97

03:49:51 Is now that the child is born, why shouldn't the woman pay child support? 0.99

03:49:59 Child support to whom? 0.97

03:50:00 Well, here, how about this scenario? 0.57

03:50:05 The woman does not want the kid, but the father does.

03:50:12 The father is willing to take custody of the child. 1.00

03:50:18 The woman doesn't want custody. 0.99

03:50:20 Should that woman then be forced to pay child support to the man? 1.00

03:50:24 If she relinquishes all rights to the kid, relinquishes.

03:50:29 It's not my child.

03:50:31 Not my child.

03:50:32 Not my child. 0.99

03:50:32 I wanted abortion. 1.00

03:50:34 Abortion takes away her rights. 1.00

03:50:36 Well, okay, but so why don't we give men a...

03:50:39 I know this is somewhat of a separate topic,

03:50:41 but why don't we give men a similar escape escape in what i don't understand but here's 0.69

03:50:48 okay if men should pay child support if the man doesn't want the kid and is like ah the woman can

03:50:55 just raise the kid he has to pay her child support but the woman gives birth and she's like ah i don't 1.00

03:51:01 want the kid the dad can just have the kid your position is the woman has no my position is if 1.00

03:51:07 she wanted to have an abortion she wanted to have an abortion and the child was born by induced 1.00

03:51:13 labor and she relinquished her rights no but the she does not have any right to the baby it's not

03:51:19 her baby the baby is posted for abortion or for for for adoption a father can adopt the baby or

03:51:26 someone else can adopt the baby so he's saying should the mom have to pay child support if there 0.73

03:51:30 If the baby is born and a man gets custody of the child, then a woman should pay child support, of course. 0.97

03:51:41 That defeats the purpose of an abortion, though. 1.00

03:51:43 Well, say it again.

03:51:45 Because the whole intention of an abortion is to kill the child, not to save the child. 0.92

03:51:50 Well, the intention of abortion is not to kill the child, but to take the child out of a woman's body. 0.93

03:51:56 Because otherwise... 0.93

03:51:58 That would be pointless to induce labor seven months, putting the child in harm's way for health conditions and stuff.

03:52:06 You might as well have the baby. 1.00

03:52:07 Then you negotiate it with the woman. 1.00

03:52:09 I don't want a child to be born prematurely. 0.99

03:52:13 I don't want abortions at all.

03:52:14 I'm just saying that you have social means, not through legal, not through legal, not through the government, but through social means to influence what women do with unwanted babies or when babies are born or what they do, what are alternatives to abortion.

03:52:34 There are social means.

03:52:36 You can do it socially.

03:52:37 You don't need to have government, government to dictate to you what you're going to do.

03:52:43 not government i mean i googled this and there is a distinction between abortion

03:52:49 and induced labor or medical induction of childbirth um so uh abortion does seem to

03:52:58 suggest that you kill the baby even if it's viable even i'm saying redefine it if you

03:53:06 There's four different kinds of abortions. 0.97

03:53:10 None of them are just taking the baby out. 1.00

03:53:13 Melissa purchased whatever six-sex premium hoodie for $59.99.

03:53:19 Finally made alive.

03:53:20 Huge supporter for you and Andrew.

03:53:23 Tie for your podcast and all of the entertainment.

03:53:28 Okay, so you want no...

03:53:30 How about this?

03:53:31 You want no restrictions on ending the pregnancy.

03:53:34 Does that make more sense?

03:53:35 No restrictions on ending the pregnancy 0.99

03:53:38 It's okay, because I think we're getting caught up on abortion 1.00

03:53:40 Correct, that is correct 0.69

03:53:43 But you would say that once there's viability

03:53:46 Then you would induce labor

03:53:50 Correct

03:53:50 And save the life, essentially 0.99

03:53:52 But prior to viability, then just kill the fetus 0.94

03:53:56 That's not what I'm saying 0.97

03:53:57 I'm saying you have social means to influence the woman

03:54:01 That's what I'm saying, socially 0.95

03:54:03 Not through the government

03:54:05 All right. Moving on to the next topic, then. Okay, so, oh, actually, this is somewhat related

03:54:12 to what we were talking about before. Who pays on a date? And you write, you don't think the man

03:54:16 always pays or always split 50-50 as a principle. You have a simple rule for deciding who should

03:54:23 pay. It works regardless of the circumstances. I have a guess as to what it is. Yeah, tell me.

03:54:30 Whoever asks, is that it?

03:54:32 No.

03:54:33 Okay, so what is it?

03:54:34 Not whoever asks.

03:54:35 What's your simple rule? 0.76

03:54:36 My rule is sometimes women, if men suggest to go out and women feel that men paying puts an obligation on them to further than participate in more activities, 1.00

03:54:53 then women should jump in and pay for the date to prevent this type of obligation because you

03:55:02 don't want to feel obligated that's my that's my rule if i feel that it's too much i'm saying okay

03:55:10 we're going to split this time yeah but why would you want to for i mean i actually this is a

03:55:16 criticism i have of men uh you are not owed sex just because a woman pays for the date

03:55:22 So I would question why a woman would want to even continue pursuing things with a man who she detects some sort of entitlement to sex because he paid for a date or a fancy date.

03:55:42 Men are not owed sex because he buys dinner.

03:55:45 I didn't say that depends on men who feels entitled for sex.

03:55:50 I said it depends on a woman who feels that it might put an obligation on her. 0.96

03:55:56 She does not feel comfortable. 1.00

03:55:57 If she does not feel comfortable, she jumps in and pays. 0.94

03:56:00 That's just it.

03:56:01 And for me, I don't feel comfortable, and I told you previously.

03:56:05 Well, she doesn't feel uncomfortable because the guy might be entitled,

03:56:08 which she shouldn't date that guy, but.

03:56:12 I'm jumping in, and I'm paying 50-50 because I want to learn who this guy is first

03:56:17 because it takes time to find out who this person is.

03:56:22 That's the point of dating.

03:56:24 The point of dating, not eating out. 1.00

03:56:28 Women should just reject the entire framework, though, 1.00

03:56:30 that because the guy paid for the date or whatever, 1.00

03:56:35 that either she thinks or he thinks that that means she's obligated to sex.

03:56:41 So she should just reject the entire framework and not introduce,

03:56:45 well, in order to alleviate this sense of obligation,

03:56:49 I feel I'm going to pay for the date.

03:56:52 Whether you pay for the date or not, 0.76

03:56:54 just don't feel obligated to have sex with a guy

03:56:58 because he paid for the date.

03:57:00 That's fine.

03:57:01 That's fine with me.

03:57:02 All I'm saying is I'm saying two people have to equally participate in relationships.

03:57:07 Equally participate in relationships.

03:57:11 Invest into relationships.

03:57:14 I mean, that's not possible. 0.63

03:57:15 If only men invest into relationships, then women do not, might not, I'm not saying do not, but might not treasure this relationship. 0.92

03:57:24 Yeah, but how do women invest in relationships? 0.94

03:57:27 If men invest monetarily, then a woman invests monetarily as well. 1.00

03:57:31 If men invest his time, then women invest her time as well.

03:57:35 If men gives her gift, she gives him a gift.

03:57:39 I guess.

03:57:40 That's just my point. 1.00

03:57:41 it shows that a woman treats you like a human being 1.00

03:57:45 and not using you to get money out of you 0.89

03:57:50 or to get some benefits out of you.

03:57:52 Yeah, but I don't think that there needs to be perfect reciprocity

03:57:58 in relationships.

03:58:01 I think, okay, one person likes gifts, the other person likes this,

03:58:04 and I don't think it has to be...

03:58:05 I agree with you.

03:58:06 She can give him something in exchange.

03:58:09 It doesn't matter.

03:58:10 Sure. Marriage, you think current laws and government policies have made legal marriage less attractive for many men.

03:58:18 You think there's a practical solution that almost nobody discusses.

03:58:22 You agree that many men have legitimate concerns about legal marriage.

03:58:26 You disagree that the practical solution is to avoid marriage altogether.

03:58:29 So what is your practical solution that almost nobody discusses?

03:58:33 My practical solution, there is contract law, not family law, contract law.

03:58:38 you write a contract with the woman what your relationships are going to be because when you

03:58:43 get married officially uh with the state or or whatever you are basically signing a default

03:58:51 contract for relationships okay instead of signing a default contract for both parties to feel

03:58:58 comfortable in the relationships you can write a contract that describes your relationships

03:59:03 and this will be a subject

03:59:05 to contract law. That's all I wanted

03:59:07 to say. And wait, do you

03:59:09 and then do you get married too?

03:59:12 No. So you just

03:59:13 You just sign a contract

03:59:15 You don't need

03:59:17 to sign. Have you talked to a lawyer about this?

03:59:19 Because this is probably unenforceable

03:59:21 I think it is enforceable

03:59:23 except maybe some

03:59:25 cases

03:59:27 that may be

03:59:29 related to children or something like that

03:59:31 but you can still discuss it, and you can still sign it.

03:59:37 There are some exceptions, but everything else, 0.72

03:59:40 that she does not get alimony from you,

03:59:43 that you can put in the contract.

03:59:49 I don't, so yeah, I don't know if,

03:59:52 I don't know if that's actually legally enforceable, maybe,

03:59:58 but like having a relationship contract like i i don't know if that would be enforceable

04:00:08 and then what would be the benefit to each individual person but uh interesting thought 0.63

04:00:16 there um your girlfriend oh okay so my girlfriend should come over and do my laundry uh you honestly

04:00:23 you honestly couldn't tell whether i was serious or trolling and either way you'd enjoy discussing

04:00:28 it okay what's what do you have on that well i don't think that women have to go to men's houses

04:00:35 and play wives okay before they have before they have relationships uh that are established that 1.00

04:00:43 they live together so that's uh that's you said i want her on the first date come and do the laundry

04:00:49 she should do my she should do my laundry on the first day okay okay i've done a dude's dishes the

04:00:55 first time I went and hung out with him. My ex-boyfriend, I did his laundry. I don't understand

04:00:59 that. Yeah, no, I'll never do it again. I don't think, I don't think it's a good idea. I've done

04:01:03 it to more than one guy. I walked in, I saw their dishes were dirty. I was like, what? The laundry

04:01:08 tells everything. Listen, you can, you can afford the housekeeper. You can afford the housekeeper

04:01:13 who can come to you. Can you straighten your mic, please? Okay. You can afford the housekeeper if

04:01:19 you need someone to do your laundry, if you can't do it yourself. I need to give something to a 1.00

04:01:23 woman to do she can't just be just she can't just be doom scrolling on her phone sometimes you got 1.00

04:01:29 to create a mess for a woman well as far as relationships concerned i even oops spit this 1.00

04:01:37 can you clean it up like if if everything's take mostly taken care of you got to make a little mess

04:01:44 Brian, look, I'm joking, but yeah, of course, if, if you have pain in your back, for example,

04:01:53 and you can't do it yourself, of course, a woman should, should, should go and help you out and do

04:02:03 something. But if you are yourself capable, seriously, she should come to your house and 0.99

04:02:13 do laundry for you well and you were serious about it you were not trolling right well i'm

04:02:18 well so you are trolling i say well hold on i say it in a somewhat humorous way yes and if a woman

04:02:24 didn't do my laundry the first time around that's not a deal breaker it would be better if she did

04:02:31 though uh i would definitely be like oh whoa i like her way more so it's good for her because i

04:02:37 like her more now and it's good for me because she did my laundry so you're looking for a house

04:02:42 Yeah. So you have a maid fetish. Okay. Hold on. I, I love the, I love this thing because I've got a 0.99

04:02:47 perfect rebuttal. So women say, women will say when they're dating, dating a man, there's a 0.93

04:02:52 couple of different arguments along this line. They'll say, I'm not your mom. I'm not your mom.

04:02:58 Or, uh, the, if you're dating a girl and you're not married or whatever, they'll be like, well, 1.00

04:03:04 that's wife behavior. Like I'll, that's wife shit. Well, it's like, okay, I can just flip 1.00

04:03:09 this around on women and be like I'm not your provider I'm not your father exactly agree with 0.63

04:03:16 you no okay but if you ask uh probably if you ask women uh should men pay on first dates and they 0.95

04:03:23 say yes I'm okay I get that you didn't but you're not all women now let's look at the other women's 0.85

04:03:31 answers for chair one men should pay on first dates men should provide protect men should be

04:03:37 chivalrous. She agrees with all of them. Heather, men should pay on first dates, men should provide

04:03:43 protect, men should be chivalrous. Husband should be willing to die protecting you. 1.00

04:03:48 Alyssa, men should pay on first dates, men should provide protect, men should be chivalrous.

04:03:53 Husband should be willing to die protecting you. Same for you. You say yes to men should be 0.97

04:04:01 chivalrous uh and you yes to husband should be willing to die protecting you so i understand you

04:04:08 are fine with men not paying for first dates by the way uh your husband did he pay for the first

04:04:12 date i don't remember you probably did though so that aside though that aside so but but i understand 0.84

04:04:21 okay i i understand that there are some women who are okay with 50 50 or the man not paying or 1.00

04:04:27 whatever. However, men also have to be realistic when it comes to dating. I would argue the

04:04:33 majority of women do want men to pay for the first date. And some women, it's like, well, 1.00

04:04:41 he didn't pay, but I still like him and a little negative mark, but I'll still see him. Whereas

04:04:47 some women, it's 100% a deal breaker. The guy goes two checks on the date, it's over. It's over. 1.00

04:04:54 So for a lot of women, it is a big deal.

04:04:59 So you're saying, well, Brian, what was your framing there that she's not a housekeeper?

04:05:06 Well, great. 0.90

04:05:06 When women say they want a man to protect, I'll just do what you did. 0.99

04:05:11 I'm not your bodyguard. 1.00

04:05:13 You want me to be your bodyguard? 1.00

04:05:15 Like if somebody fucking steals your shit, that's on you. 1.00

04:05:18 You deal with it. 1.00

04:05:19 So when women say, oh, but I'm not a housekeeper and I'm not your personal chef and I'm not your mom. 0.94

04:05:24 Great. I'm not your father. I'm not your provider. I'm not your protector. I'm not your bodyguard. I'm not your mechanic. I'm not your IT guy. I'm not your plumber. I'm not the trash man. You can do all that shit. 0.68

04:05:36 Exactly. And first of all, and also, also, Brian, if you ask a woman, go do my laundry, and she responds to this way, you should dump her. 1.00

04:05:51 And she responds to the way, I'm not your mother, or she responds to, I'm not your housekeeper, if she responds to this way, if you ask her to do your laundry. 0.69

04:06:00 But you say she's not my housekeeper.

04:06:02 You said she comes to your house and does laundry.

04:06:05 You didn't say that you asked her to do laundry.

04:06:07 You said that she comes to your house and does laundry.

04:06:10 Those are two different things, right? 0.93

04:06:13 Wait, wait, wait.

04:06:14 Hold on.

04:06:14 There's a couple different things here.

04:06:16 Wow.

04:06:17 So there's a couple different ways that the laundry thing can manifest. 1.00

04:06:24 She can be familiar with the podcast, be like, Brian, I will do all of that shit. 0.99

04:06:29 I love you, Brian. 0.99

04:06:30 You're so great. 1.00

04:06:31 i'm gonna come see you and i'm gonna do all that shit for you and then she just fucking does it 0.99

04:06:36 she just does it okay or or there's other scenarios where you you kind of like gently 0.99

04:06:43 with the gentle guidance uh gentle guidance you're like oh you know what i gotta do my laundry

04:06:51 and then you look at her and then you look at the laundry room and then you walk away

04:06:57 Well, and that's up to her to decide

04:07:02 But I don't think she should

04:07:04 Okay, but so

04:07:06 Here's where I'm confused

04:07:08 On one hand, you say you don't think she should

04:07:11 But then you say to me

04:07:13 Brian, the woman who wouldn't do it 1.00

04:07:15 You shouldn't date her 1.00

04:07:16 The woman who wouldn't do that 1.00

04:07:20 No, I said 1.00

04:07:20 If the woman tells you she's not 1.00

04:07:22 If you tell her to do my laundry 0.96

04:07:24 And she tells you she's not your mother 1.00

04:07:25 You shouldn't date her

04:07:27 But that's what you say.

04:07:28 You say she's not your housekeeper.

04:07:32 She's not your maid.

04:07:33 I'm saying it to you, but she should not say it to you.

04:07:37 I'm saying it to you, but not.

04:07:39 I'm telling you, my argument is she's not your housekeeper.

04:07:43 She's not your housekeeper.

04:07:44 This is my argument.

04:07:45 But if she tells you, I'm not your housekeeper.

04:07:49 Okay, but then, so she shouldn't do it.

04:07:53 She shouldn't say that.

04:07:54 This is a separate conversation.

04:07:56 Okay, fine.

04:07:56 she shouldn't say that but she's still not going to do it right did you ask her or what what

04:08:01 happened again you gently nudged her i'm like yo let's do something sure okay okay you just need

04:08:09 to date and marry the girl that walked through your bedroom maybe to the bathroom or somewhere

04:08:13 and noticed that they were dirty and just put them on that's reality in the real world i walked

04:08:20 right through i saw his stuff was dirty i was like you know what i can do to help out because

04:08:25 he's in the shower we're fixing to go somewhere i can do that for him it shouldn't be that he has

04:08:31 to prompt a woman oh i gotta do laundry you've already missed your opportunity he said he shouldn't

04:08:37 even have to ask her she shouldn't be asking him on the first day should not yes on the first day

04:08:43 that's right yes on the first day you guys i'm sorry that i'm different but i have i have done

04:08:51 laundry on the first date. I have done dishes on the first date without being prompted because I

04:08:57 knew we would want to do something else. Okay. But the thing is, if you really like that guy,

04:09:03 you'll do it. That I did not say, and you're saying as if I did. But hold on. I'm not trying

04:09:08 to date you. I'm trying to date the cohort of women, which is the majority of women that has

04:09:15 an expectation that men pay on first dates. So if I'm operating 0.92

04:09:19 in a dating climate where 60-70% of women 0.98

04:09:23 expect men to pay the entire date, they expect men to be

04:09:27 chivalrous and do all these things, in that dynamic, how could it be

04:09:31 wrong for me to be like, yeah, do my laundry? And 30% don't.

04:09:36 Well. You said 60%

04:09:39 expect that and 30% so you. So I gotta reject

04:09:43 70%. 1.00

04:09:43 I got to reject 70% of the women? 1.00

04:09:45 Yes. 1.00

04:09:45 So the majority of women are wrong, is what you're saying, about wanting men to pay on first dates. 1.00

04:09:51 I don't have an issue with it. 1.00

04:09:52 Wrong for you, maybe.

04:09:53 No, no.

04:09:53 Hold on.

04:09:54 Just to be clear.

04:09:54 I don't have an issue paying for the first date.

04:09:57 I don't have an issue providing.

04:09:59 I don't have an issue with any of that. 0.99

04:10:01 I don't even have an issue with a woman wanting it so long as she is holding up her end of the deal. 1.00

04:10:09 What's her end of the deal? 1.00

04:10:10 Her end of the deal. 1.00

04:10:11 You want traditional treatment.

04:10:12 you should be you should be traditional man i feel like i knew that's what you were getting to

04:10:18 you you are against women wanting men to be the traditional men the provider this and that but

04:10:24 they're not the traditional one exactly they don't want to cook they don't want to clean

04:10:28 they on social media twerking all there you go you know so i get what you're saying that's what

04:10:34 i'm saying and i feel like nowadays that's what i'm saying there's like 50 genders right and too

04:10:38 many genders people dispute gender roles i feel like genders i feel like date who has the same

04:10:44 interest and same beliefs as you so me i naturally i like to cook i like to clean i'm a very clean 0.98

04:10:49 when i keep my house clean if i go over your house and your shit dirty i'm gonna clean your 0.98

04:10:52 shit up true i'm a day i'm a hard-working woman i date hard-working men and but it's just in my 0.99

04:10:58 nature to be caring to be hospitable so if this man's working hard he don't feel like doing a 0.91

04:11:04 dish i'm doing dishes i'm cooking and making sure you got food when you come home i'm running your

04:11:08 bath all the time and does he have to ask you for those things thank you you do it because why

04:11:13 because i want to do it because you love guess what i ain't doing that for everybody no and you 0.98

04:11:18 shouldn't do it for anybody i think there are a lot there's a lot of traditional women out there

04:11:23 there are there well there are i mean i come across a lot of them i mean me myself i was always

04:11:29 even though i worked just because i wanted to and i had hobbies and i like had an entrepreneurial

04:11:34 spirit you know designing things whatever i always cook i would rather i prefer that i do

04:11:41 i prefer to cook and do all that a lot there's that way it gets done right to see i'm all about

04:11:47 that a lot of women they know it's a different generation it's a different generation tradition

04:11:53 looks so much different like tradition back then and that's why women they want to be taking care 0.98

04:11:58 of and stuff because and that goes back to the women's rights shit back then women couldn't get 0.87

04:12:03 a job that they were they were stay-at-home moms you know they were the wives and stuff like that 0.97

04:12:07 and then I assume that most women like let's just say you go through a divorce right because you 1.00

04:12:12 couldn't get a job and shit like that you can't provide for yourself you know so women want to 1.00

04:12:17 equal rights to be able to work so if you want equal rights to work that means that you're 0.95

04:12:22 bringing in income so if men feel like okay you want to be you want to have the same rights as a

04:12:27 man then you shouldn't expect a man to be that traditional man you know what I'm saying like 0.86

04:12:32 But women nowadays, they still expect men to be the traditional men, to pay for every damn thing, but they don't want to still live in those traditional roles as the woman that takes care of the house and takes care of the man. 0.99

04:12:44 If you expect traditional relationships, you behave like a traditional woman. 0.97

04:12:49 But that's the problem with dating. 1.00

04:12:50 But he has one little caveat.

04:12:54 He's not marrying you.

04:12:56 You understand? 0.95

04:12:56 You're just a girlfriend.

04:12:58 That's what his thesis is. 1.00

04:12:59 I feel like people saying that cooking and cleaning and stuff is wifey shit. 1.00

04:13:06 I don't label that as, like, wifey shit. 1.00

04:13:08 I feel like that's just normal shit. 1.00

04:13:11 Yeah. 0.99

04:13:11 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

04:13:11 And I feel like, too, like, so are you saying that you're going to withhold all this shit until you get married? 1.00

04:13:17 Withhold what shit? 1.00

04:13:18 Like cooking, cleaning, caring for the man, catering to him. 1.00

04:13:23 No, I do think.

04:13:24 But you expect him to pay all the bills and to finance dates.

04:13:27 Who said I expect to pay all the bills?

04:13:29 We're not talking about you. When I say you, I'm not talking about you.

04:13:31 If you go into traditional relationships, then you have dynamics of traditional relationships.

04:13:36 If you're going into non-traditional relationships, but modern relationships,

04:13:43 where everyone takes responsibility for whatever in the family they can do best. 0.97

04:13:50 But the women who want those modern relationships that you're talking about? 1.00

04:13:55 So, cause I understand what you're saying where there's like, okay, if you want a traditional 1.00

04:13:58 relationship, find somebody who wants a traditional relationship. 0.62

04:14:01 The issue is, is that the women who want the modern relationship down the road, uh, or who 0.99

04:14:09 claim they want a modern relationship, they don't do the work to make it 50 50 in the 0.97

04:14:17 ways they could.

04:14:18 So they still, because it's very easy to just be like, okay, well, men pay for dates.

04:14:22 They still want men to pay for dates.

04:14:23 they still want men to carry the initiative 1.00

04:14:25 burden. I mean, here,

04:14:27 I don't know if I'll get a straight answer for you.

04:14:31 Should the man

04:14:32 go for the kiss first?

04:14:36 I don't know. Can't tell you.

04:14:38 If the man should go for the kiss first.

04:14:40 I don't know if the

04:14:42 man should go for the kiss first.

04:14:43 Okay, fine. In your dating experience, 0.97

04:14:46 what was your

04:14:47 expectation when you were

04:14:49 dating? I know you've been married for

04:14:51 33. Forever.

04:14:53 So what was your expectation?

04:14:56 It's very easy to have never been on a date in 30 plus years.

04:15:01 Like when I say, obviously, you probably go on dates with your husband.

04:15:04 I mean, dates with a new person, first dates.

04:15:08 It's very kind of easy to just, you know, maybe change your tune a little bit.

04:15:13 When you were dating, though, you didn't expect men to pay for dates.

04:15:18 You didn't expect men to make the first move.

04:15:21 There were different times

04:15:24 We were both students

04:15:25 In Soviet Russia

04:15:26 We were students in Soviet Russia

04:15:29 He dies, he dies

04:15:30 Was that before or after the Berlin Wall fell?

04:15:34 After

04:15:34 After the Berlin Wall fell

04:15:38 Yeah

04:15:39 So

04:15:41 Nobody had any money

04:15:43 There was no expectation

04:15:44 But my husband brought me apples

04:15:47 The guy goes in 1.00

04:15:50 or the girl goes in 0.78

04:15:52 on the lips or on the cheek 0.99

04:15:54 on the lips

04:15:56 for a kiss

04:15:57 you know I would want a guy to do it

04:16:00 I would want to

04:16:01 but if

04:16:03 he doesn't do it on time I would do it

04:16:06 if he doesn't

04:16:08 do it

04:16:08 if he doesn't do it

04:16:10 appropriate time

04:16:13 I would do it 0.99

04:16:14 next topic the barista versus the career woman

04:16:17 uh you think one of the assumptions behind the conclusion usually goes unchallenged

04:16:23 and you'd enjoy discussing it correct uh you are usually when you are comparing barista and

04:16:31 career woman you are usually attributing to the barista that she is like an eight

04:16:39 or a nine and the career woman is usually a five or a six and you are comparing them based on that

04:16:47 because you are not taking two equal women.

04:16:52 You are taking women who are at the beginning already differ in your eyes.

04:16:58 And that is your usual argument, as I remember. 0.92

04:17:03 Yeah, but I don't think doing that is incorrect because it points, 1.00

04:17:07 I think women overestimate the value proposition 1.00

04:17:11 that their career is going to like bolster their total attractiveness level to a man and they're 1.00

04:17:18 like thinking in their head well i'm a boss babe and i got my money and i got career therefore

04:17:24 i'm going to be uh that makes me more attractive than the hot chick at mcdonald's the hot chick

04:17:31 at mcdonald's always beats you almost always beats you um and so now but going i i'm happy 0.95

04:17:40 to engage with uh well brian let's equalize it so okay yeah let's equalize it the woman who's an

04:17:45 eight who um and are we going to equalize age too yeah okay twins sure okay so equal looks

04:17:57 equal age uh one of them works at mcdonald's and the other is what a career uh boss babe what kind

04:18:05 And another is a teacher, say, for example.

04:18:09 Teacher.

04:18:10 Teachers don't make good money, typically.

04:18:12 Okay.

04:18:13 Professor?

04:18:13 Who makes good money?

04:18:14 Well, I mean, college professors make a bit better money than like... 1.00

04:18:16 She works at... 1.00

04:18:19 She's a software engineer.

04:18:20 Software engineer. 0.91

04:18:21 Okay.

04:18:22 Yeah, something familiar.

04:18:24 Why not?

04:18:25 Okay.

04:18:26 Makes good money.

04:18:27 Yeah.

04:18:28 Okay.

04:18:29 Okay.

04:18:30 And one is a barista.

04:18:31 They are identical.

04:18:32 now when you take out the barista you can expect she would want your resources to be 0.96

04:18:41 flowing to her she would want to go with you to the mall buy stuff when i'm with the barista for 1.00

04:18:49 example well you are i'm saying that that women women have different requirements right a woman 1.00

04:18:58 And a woman who is a software engineer, for example, she would go with you out and she would not be expecting to transfer your funds into her pocket. 1.00

04:19:13 And she wouldn't be interested in things that a barista would otherwise be interested.

04:19:18 I have some contention here on that.

04:19:20 Yeah, tell me.

04:19:21 I mean, that could be true.

04:19:25 But then I could also flip the argument to, well, the barista, it's to some degree easier to please her financially, I suppose. 0.99

04:19:36 Whereas the woman who she herself is a high income earner, she herself has a certain taste for luxury.

04:19:43 And if she expects on top of her own spending habits that her man is going to spend, give her gifts that is somewhat commensurate to her lifestyle, the woman who's a barista is going to be impressed.

04:20:00 You take her to like, say, a lower level experience, whereas the woman who's perhaps wealthy, her expectations may not be or rather her expectations might be higher because she is wealthy.

04:20:12 you are making an assumption about what you're also making but you're also making an assumption 0.89

04:20:17 that the barista is like oh take me to the mall and buy shit for me when maybe that's not even 0.68

04:20:25 the case there's plenty of women who uh have barista jobs or work at mcdonald's where 0.99

04:20:31 they're not gonna expect that of you perhaps perhaps but you know if you are dating for 1.00

04:20:38 relationships and you have children with a woman who's like they are twins right one is a barista

04:20:47 and another and you want this this woman also to homeschool your children right yeah she doesn't 1.00

04:20:53 need a two thousand dollar purse yeah barista you want to homeschool your children so whom

04:21:00 would you rather have homeschool your children a woman who has well now well what's interesting 0.87

04:21:07 about this is if we're going to create these scenarios where we're controlling for basically 0.80

04:21:12 everything what i would point to you what i would point out is the barista is much more willing to

04:21:19 give up her career than the software engineer boss babe career oriented woman but so you're saying

04:21:27 okay we we we compose all the characteristics in favor of the boss babe no i'm not saying in favor 0.59

04:21:37 of the boss baby. I'm not saying that boss baby

04:21:39 is going to be better. I'm saying is

04:21:41 that

04:21:41 you cannot

04:21:44 proposition that 0.70

04:21:51 a woman who has no career 1.00

04:21:53 is always better than a woman with 1.00

04:21:55 a career. My position 1.00

04:21:56 is not that the woman 1.00

04:21:59 who has no career is always better

04:22:01 than the woman who does have a career. 1.00

04:22:03 But it would be the case

04:22:05 that if we're talking about 0.67

04:22:07 general expectations the woman who is career oriented now you're what you're doing is you're

04:22:13 taking away well okay all things being equal okay so then what we're doing here is the career

04:22:19 oriented woman the career oriented woman um she's completely okay stopping her career yes i've seen

04:22:29 i stopped my career my second child was born i stopped my career okay i know other i mean i know

04:22:36 it's anecdotal anecdotal uh in reality though i'm saying in reality but in reality who's more

04:22:43 likely to i know plenty in reality career women who stopped their career for children in reality

04:22:50 which woman is more likely to be willing to uh give up her career and be okay with it 1.00

04:22:58 the barista or the woman who's uh two years away from getting partner at her law firm 0.99

04:23:04 which one in this case i agree with you she might want to go be a partner if this is her priority 0.91

04:23:12 but i'm saying for many women if you date someone you choose a woman for yourself right

04:23:18 you don't have to choose someone whose priority is not children that's up to you

04:23:24 okay but we can you're choosing women whose priority that's why you're dating

04:23:30 He's giving you the scenario. He's giving you the scenario. He's basically making a point that the barista is going to be more likely to give up her career because she hasn't built more success than the career woman. Because the career woman has more to lose than the barista. The barista just has a job that, you know, like a barista job, you know. So that's basically what he's saying.

04:23:53 Okay, I agree with that.

04:23:57 She would gladly give up her barista job.

04:24:00 Oh, that's your answer.

04:24:01 That's what he was looking for.

04:24:04 What I was saying, I was saying it's not necessarily always, always, 0.97

04:24:09 that women who have careers, they have to be, or they sort of,

04:24:13 for many men, women who have careers have advantages.

04:24:17 I've seen those men.

04:24:18 I lived among them.

04:24:20 All of my friends, they are just from, I understand it's anecdotal evidence.

04:24:27 I understand your statement.

04:24:28 I understand this is anecdotal evidence.

04:24:30 That was my situation. 1.00

04:24:31 Women stopped their jobs. 1.00

04:24:34 They stopped their jobs for children because children are more important. 1.00

04:24:38 That's just it.

04:24:40 Without his hesitation.

04:24:44 He's talking about for a man, not the kids.

04:24:47 Say it again.

04:24:47 he's talking about ending the career for the relationship for the man to be you know submissive

04:24:54 to the man or whatever which is likely which is likely that barista would give it up before

04:24:59 barista will give it up not just likely but 100 percent that's what he would she will give it up

04:25:04 that's yeah that's what he's that's what he's getting at we look i i would give you an example

04:25:09 as follows i think that and you know if we just create hypotheticals where everything is equal

04:25:16 It's just, okay, then they're equal, I guess.

04:25:19 But in the real world, we don't really see that.

04:25:22 So if we completely equalize for everything, I don't know if it's particularly helpful in actually establishing, well, how would this actually, what are we actually trying to communicate or establish here?

04:25:36 my argument is not that all women who have a career or who have some degree of career orientation

04:25:44 are terrible partners and you shouldn't date them that's not my position my position is simply 0.99

04:25:51 i think women tend to overestimate the value that their career has like in terms of making a man 0.99

04:25:59 not making a man but will a man assess a woman as more or less attractive because of her career 1.00

04:26:06 that's my argument so are there women who are baristas and terrible partners yes are there 0.90

04:26:12 women who are high-powered attorneys and would make a good great girlfriend or wife yes my my 0.97

04:26:19 primary issue is that i think women sometimes get caught up and they think that their career

04:26:26 or their money makes them more attractive to men when it's like really low on the totem pole of

04:26:33 what, what men care about. And so like women, even if they're high powered, make a, make a bunch of 1.00

04:26:43 money. Oftentimes they're not going to pay for dates. They still want the guy to pay. Uh, they 1.00

04:26:49 oftentimes want to date a guy who makes more than them. Like when men make a lot of money, they'll 0.98

04:26:55 date a girl who doesn't make money you don't really see that quite as often in 0.81

04:27:00 the reverse so let's let's do a hypothetical okay you have twins one of

04:27:09 them is a barista and one of them is a career woman and career woman is willing 0.64

04:27:13 to give up just like the barista willing to give up her career to be a family 0.99

04:27:19 woman with children whom would you choose yeah she will not make any more 1.00

04:27:23 money she's going to be home stay stay home wife what who would you choose for my children for you

04:27:31 for your children correct well this is different than from who i would date but you said that you

04:27:38 are dating with intention to build long-term relationship that's what you said i think i think

04:27:44 you can guide your children to some degree differently

04:27:48 what do you mean guide your children to something you're okay but

04:27:54 how how i would you don't have to spend time on my on my uh

04:27:59 no if uh if uh if it's tiring you i mean

04:28:04 okay oh my god bro um

04:28:09 so okay the question is hypothetically they're both exactly the same yes but that oh my god

04:28:18 they both are exactly the same

04:28:20 I'll answer that question but then I'll just 0.91

04:28:22 fucking answer the real scenario 0.98

04:28:24 so would I prefer a daughter 1.00

04:28:26 who's a barista but she gets 0.93

04:28:28 married young to the love of her life

04:28:30 and has kids young

04:28:32 and stays with him forever 1.00

04:28:34 or a woman who waits until she's 30 1.00

04:28:36 35 fucks around 1.00

04:28:38 a whole bunch and has a really great career 1.00

04:28:40 I pick the daughter 1.00

04:28:42 who's a barista 0.99

04:28:43 that's the more likely outcome

04:28:46 If you want to completely control for, like, you want, okay, everything else being equal.

04:28:51 Everything else being equal.

04:28:52 Okay, everything else being equal and they're just as likely, then yes, conceivably the woman with a career, my daughter who has a career, well, hmm, everything else being equal.

04:29:04 Is her career stressful?

04:29:06 Does it prevent her from meeting good men?

04:29:08 I mean.

04:29:09 Why are we talking about daughter?

04:29:12 I said.

04:29:13 You brought up what I would want for my daughters.

04:29:16 I didn't say daughters.

04:29:17 I said, if you are dating, you are dating.

04:29:20 You have to choose between two.

04:29:21 No, no, no.

04:29:22 You said, did she not say what I love for my kids?

04:29:25 You said twin daughters?

04:29:27 No, no.

04:29:27 I could have sworn she said.

04:29:29 I could have sworn she was talking about my kids, but okay.

04:29:33 No, twin sisters who are identical. 0.99

04:29:36 One of them is a barista and another one is a career woman. 0.56

04:29:40 Okay?

04:29:40 Both of them are willing to give up their job and stay home.

04:29:44 I'm pretty sure the chat, some people.

04:29:45 which one which one would you choose identical and they are honestly it doesn't really matter

04:29:53 all that much there's like i'll answer it like this uh conceivably if they're exactly identical

04:29:59 um and identical in the sense that one of them isn't going to um one of them isn't going to

04:30:09 like i've had women on the show who are like but like i just wasn't fulfilled just being a housewife

04:30:17 like i wanted that extra level of of stimulation from like what i could get from a career but all

04:30:25 else being equal consider well hold on all else being equal do they both have the same amount of

04:30:31 savings why savings are well do they have the exact same amount of money all else being equal

04:30:38 right? Because what I would argue is

04:30:40 okay, if the barista has

04:30:41 X amount...

04:30:43 Klain donated $100.

04:30:46 Thank you, man. Is this the quality

04:30:47 of intelligence we get from Russia?

04:30:50 No wonder it failed.

04:30:51 Chair one, you don't have a pot of gold

04:30:54 down there. Already expired.

04:30:56 Sorry, Brian.

04:30:57 Andrew would have destroyed all of them already.

04:31:01 Yeah.

04:31:02 Thank you, Klain.

04:31:04 Who's Andrew?

04:31:05 So, okay. 1.00

04:31:08 conceivably then the woman who has uh she's made more money so she has more money right

04:31:15 is that granted in the hypothetical because you said all else being equal well they have 0.98

04:31:21 they have different intelligence because one of course they have different because one is a barista

04:31:26 and another one became professional woman somehow so they started identically and then wait but so

04:31:33 Hold on, if they have different intelligence.

04:31:36 They look the same.

04:31:38 They look the same.

04:31:39 Okay, but if they have different, hold on.

04:31:41 But now you're giving a bolster.

04:31:45 Correct.

04:31:45 You're giving a bolster to the.

04:31:46 Yes, I'm giving the bolster.

04:31:48 Okay, then fine.

04:31:49 I thought it was obvious. 1.00

04:31:50 The woman who's more intelligent.

04:31:51 I thought it was obvious.

04:31:54 It wouldn't be obvious. 1.00

04:31:55 The woman who built a career.

04:31:57 If they're identical, then their intelligence capacity is the same, is it not?

04:32:01 No, it's not.

04:32:03 I thought they were identical.

04:32:04 Well, previously you were arguing that they have difference in their looks.

04:32:09 Well, then they must have a different temperament, too, then.

04:32:13 Didn't you argue that they had different...

04:32:15 Oh, my God.

04:32:15 Okay, I got to move on. 0.98

04:32:16 I'm going to blow my brains out. 0.73

04:32:17 Move it on. 1.00

04:32:18 No, but I got more fucking notes from you. 1.00

04:32:20 No, don't go through my fucking notes. 1.00

04:32:22 No, we're going through your fucking notes. 1.00

04:32:24 We're going through your fucking notes. 1.00

04:32:26 First of all, I'm really tired here. 0.99

04:32:29 It's really hot.

04:32:30 It's hot as balls.

04:32:31 it's really hot here 0.92

04:32:33 it's just horrible

04:32:36 I have difficulty breathing

04:32:39 I have difficulty thinking

04:32:40 my brain

04:32:43 melts 1.00

04:32:44 oh shit 0.99

04:32:47 I want to know what the other topic 0.99

04:32:51 was though

04:32:52 well how about this

04:32:53 I'll come back

04:32:55 I'll come back

04:32:56 I do

04:32:58 just don't

04:33:00 no I do

04:33:01 come back to me 1.00

04:33:03 you have so many women 0.99

04:33:05 she wants to speak 1.00

04:33:07 she came here from 1.00

04:33:08 he will get to me 1.00

04:33:10 he will get to me

04:33:11 it's not my fault

04:33:13 it's Putin's fault

04:33:15 he's going through your notes

04:33:18 and I have notes too

04:33:21 he'll get to me

04:33:22 calm down

04:33:23 I'll get to everybody

04:33:26 I'll get to everybody

04:33:27 And I know that. I don't need you to speak

04:33:30 for me. I promise.

04:33:32 I understand. You're right.

04:33:33 In Soviet Russia.

04:33:38 You're right.

04:33:38 Are you KGB?

04:33:41 Are you ex-KGB?

04:33:43 KGB.

04:33:45 And Mossad.

04:33:46 Mossad too.

04:33:49 Alright. 0.50

04:33:52 Mossad and KGB.

04:33:53 Both of them. 0.65

04:33:54 Alright. Here, let's do this.

04:33:55 um alex you're saying you you uh you disagree with all these except for the first three

04:34:05 i mean i think so yeah that's pretty reasonable i guess i looked at it okay let's do this going

04:34:11 around the table going on the table i got all of you here so we'll do a few of these

04:34:14 minimum yearly income to be your future husband i think i put down 200 000 okay uh what about you

04:34:21 me yes you i said for me it's enough section section eight and ssi uh you did right you

04:34:29 would accept section eight okay well and ssi yeah uh what about you can you straighten in

04:34:35 your microphone please sorry about it it's okay comrade it's okay comrade uh it's negotiable for 0.97

04:34:41 me so okay okay so the reason that i say it's negotiable it's because you fuck brett i didn't 0.92

04:34:50 i wish i did guys she was on rock guys i should have on brett michaels i did see his wiener though 0.98

04:34:57 you saw was it it was nice how did you see it because it was out on the show was it no we were

04:35:08 it was private and combo it was the very last you were in combo with lead singer of the band poison

04:35:14 Every rose has its thorn

04:35:17 You were Cabo

04:35:20 Bret Michaels, lead singer 1.00

04:35:21 His size penis 1.00

04:35:24 And you didn't have sex with him? 1.00

04:35:25 No, he turned on old timer football 0.96

04:35:28 I think he falls asleep to that

04:35:29 And it was chill

04:35:30 Old timer football

04:35:32 Just football reels

04:35:35 You know, certain TV shows

04:35:38 People like to fall asleep to 0.95

04:35:39 He was hanging out with his wing out

04:35:41 well i mean there was some messing around yes but there we didn't have any protection

04:35:47 so and i asked and we were all tested blood tested and everything and so i said well did

04:35:53 you get tested he's like oh well i don't know i know i get every six months for diabetes whatever

04:35:58 but anyways and then his girlfriend called right but would you would you date a guy who

04:36:03 who makes who works at mcdonald's so i don't like to date at all so if i'm going to be in a

04:36:11 relationship it will be for like we would so okay let me get can i give you a hypothetical sure so

04:36:18 say you and i are going to date right yeah i don't know how big is the labia um i don't know i only

04:36:25 date women with i know i know you like uh long labia i don't even know is that the lips or the

04:36:30 middle part what it's inside the tiffany pull up the photo show them the photo show them the photo 0.83

04:36:38 okay yeah what is it go ahead pull it up tiffany

04:36:51 all right audi any okay okay so what part is the labia the the middle part the meat part

04:36:59 So that's the lips then 1.00

04:37:02 So an Audi, a woman with an Audi 0.99

04:37:04 That's, yeah 0.99

04:37:05 Big labia on the left, Audi on the left 0.89

04:37:08 That whole thing is considered a labia 0.63

04:37:11 Raise your hand if you have an Audi

04:37:12 I'm not

04:37:14 I don't even

04:37:15 Don't get it

04:37:18 I don't get it

04:37:19 Anyways

04:37:21 Hypothetically we're dating

04:37:22 I'm getting to this negotiable

04:37:25 Because the only way

04:37:27 In this day and age

04:37:29 that I would date. It would be a business-like combination. Okay, here, we're going to date for

04:37:36 24 months. We're going to do, we're going to work together. We're going to create together. We're

04:37:41 going to make money together. And after that two years- You split? No, you have the right to renew,

04:37:48 to keep building together. Okay? Yeah. So that's why it's not a number. So it's like whoever,

04:37:54 if i want to get in a relationship down the road it has to be a i'm i'm just not going to be

04:38:02 traditional so i'm more business-minded and that i want to create with the person okay and build

04:38:09 together just give me a number give me a number it depends too what state are we talking about

04:38:15 california are we talking about midwest let's do california i don't know lovely okay next

04:38:23 I'm going to say from experience, probably like 200.

04:38:26 Okay.

04:38:26 What about 200K?

04:38:27 Yes, but I'm not getting married again, so I'm just, you know, if I was going to get serious with somebody.

04:38:32 Sure.

04:38:33 Okay.

04:38:33 So I understand you're not going to get married again, but like for a long-term relationship.

04:38:37 Yeah.

04:38:37 I mean, around 2K, 200.

04:38:40 200K.

04:38:40 200.

04:38:42 200K.

04:38:43 I think that's reasonable for somebody around my age, you know, that's established.

04:38:50 Yeah.

04:38:50 unless they don't have 0.99

04:38:52 ex-wives and kids

04:38:54 I don't make that much money right now

04:38:56 but I did make a lot of money

04:38:57 I made over $100,000

04:39:00 that's not $200,000 though

04:39:02 right

04:39:03 what about you?

04:39:06 I said $40,000 to $50,000

04:39:08 $40,000 to $50,000

04:39:10 so we got $200,000

04:39:11 $200,000

04:39:15 $100,000

04:39:16 really?

04:39:20 200K?

04:39:21 I mean...

04:39:22 How much do you make?

04:39:24 I'm not going to say.

04:39:26 Is it over...

04:39:27 Do you make six figures?

04:39:28 Well, I got a job offer for six figures before I left for this experience, yes. 0.79

04:39:32 Wait, you were a nanny?

04:39:34 Yeah, but like high-profile nanny. 1.00

04:39:36 Do nannies make six figures? 1.00

04:39:38 They make $250 in Newport Beach.

04:39:40 Interesting. 0.84

04:39:41 Yeah, yes, girl. 1.00

04:39:42 They make good money. 1.00

04:39:43 But you're hot and young, so I don't know if the wives would. 1.00

04:39:48 But, yeah. 1.00

04:39:50 was the job offer for six figures uh it was a rota nanny job so two weeks on two weeks off it

04:39:57 was a what a rota nanny job so you work like you live with the family for two weeks and work for 0.98

04:40:03 two weeks straight and then you have two weeks off in 200k damn guys i don't want to make no you 0.89

04:40:11 gotta make 200k to date or you gotta bring a good business and do and build together and then 0.87

04:40:20 Make as much as you can together.

04:40:21 I agree with that too, yes. 0.66

04:40:23 Why don't average women just want an average guy? 0.99

04:40:28 What's wrong with an average guy? 1.00

04:40:30 There's average guys that make $200,000.

04:40:34 Or $100,000, I'm saying.

04:40:36 They're average guys.

04:40:37 It's above average income.

04:40:40 Yeah, well, you know, the tech world.

04:40:43 There's a lot of interesting jobs that are going on right now.

04:40:47 People are making money.

04:40:48 All right.

04:40:49 It depends on where you live and how you want to live.

04:40:53 Right? 0.99

04:40:55 She, okay. 0.96

04:40:56 California is expensive.

04:40:58 All right.

04:40:58 How tall are you and what's the minimum height you would date?

04:41:04 And then list the height of the last three partners.

04:41:08 Okay.

04:41:08 So I'm 5'6", and I think I said the minimum is 5'10".

04:41:13 Ideally, he would be taller.

04:41:14 But, yeah, the last guys I've dated were all over 6 feet.

04:41:18 Like six, six, one, six.

04:41:22 Well, six, six, dunzo.

04:41:24 Dunzo?

04:41:25 Did you say dunzo?

04:41:27 Dunzo?

04:41:28 No, I didn't.

04:41:29 I just said six, six, stands out in my mind.

04:41:31 Oh, stands out.

04:41:32 Yeah, yeah.

04:41:33 But yeah, the others were like at least six feet.

04:41:36 I didn't ask exactly.

04:41:37 I don't remember exactly.

04:41:37 So six, six, what else?

04:41:40 What do you mean?

04:41:42 Their heights.

04:41:43 Gosh, the last significant one was six, six.

04:41:46 Six, three.

04:41:48 Well, in France, generally, they're a lot shorter, so it's hard to find, but, yeah.

04:41:53 Okay, last guy was 6'6".

04:41:54 All right, what about you?

04:41:57 I'm 5'6", and I wrote down, if I were to date someone, 5'7", and my husband is 6'1".

04:42:06 I'm 5'6 1⁄2", and the last guy I dated was 6'5", however, that doesn't matter, 1.00

04:42:13 because all women like tall men and so they are always being kind of chased after so i don't 1.00

04:42:23 really look at the height thing is like the hottest thing anymore it's more about you know 0.97

04:42:28 am i being taken care of and so i don't care about height anymore i'd rather have a shorter guy

04:42:32 that has my back and you know takes care of me then but so what's the minimum male height you

04:42:39 would date uh depends on my allowance my monthly allowance from the guy yeah you're i mean right

04:42:47 i thought money on one hand money doesn't matter but okay um well the money's negotiable i guess

04:42:56 what's your shortest i mean would you date somebody three foot you should ask you should

04:43:00 ask how tall i think that would be the okay oh yeah so how tall is would i honestly i would

04:43:07 I would date any height really

04:43:10 I say I

04:43:11 Have a preference

04:43:14 For like at least 0.99

04:43:16 The average female height 1.00

04:43:18 5'4 but I would date a woman 1.00

04:43:20 Who's shorter than 5'4 1.00

04:43:21 Would you date a 6 foot woman? 1.00

04:43:23 I would date a woman who's taller than me 1.00

04:43:24 D1 babies 1.00

04:43:26 That's impressive 0.86

04:43:28 Warrior sons

04:43:30 Of course I would date

04:43:31 I can tell by your warrior helmets up there

04:43:36 Gladiators

04:43:37 I mean, I'm, like, six foot, six foot one.

04:43:39 Yeah.

04:43:40 So you're okay with, like, because some guys don't like that.

04:43:44 And they get weird about it.

04:43:46 Well, look, I'll be honest.

04:43:47 So I think for, this is going to probably piss everyone off.

04:43:53 It's okay.

04:43:54 For breeding.

04:43:57 For breeding.

04:43:58 Right. 1.00

04:43:58 You want, like, a 6'6 woman. 1.00

04:44:02 Yeah, like a big athlete. 1.00

04:44:03 But for pleasure, for speed. 0.88

04:44:05 You want a spinner. 0.58

04:44:06 you want you want a dwarf so i'm in this dilemma on one hand and i'm attracted to both is yeah but 0.68

04:44:16 on one hand it's like two sometimes a woman if a woman is too big okay it can make certain

04:44:23 activities difficult oh okay i see so activities why are you jumping in on i just want to know 1.00

04:44:30 did i offend is this no what are you trying to say i'm big are you trying to say you big

04:44:35 Why would I be offended

04:44:37 Why would you think I would be offended

04:44:40 Just the way you came in like that

04:44:42 I just wanted to know what I did

04:44:43 Are we cool

04:44:45 I don't know 1.00

04:44:46 You don't fuck with me like that 1.00

04:44:49 Are we cool though 1.00

04:44:50 Because there's a difference between fuck with someone like that 1.00

04:44:53 And being cool 1.00

04:44:54 How about this

04:44:55 You're my Caucasian 1.00

04:44:58 You're my Caucasian 1.00

04:45:04 Are you trying to be funny?

04:45:07 Do Caucasian people call each other Caucasian? 0.81

04:45:10 She's my Caucasian. 0.76

04:45:12 What's up? 0.99

04:45:13 What's up, my Caucasian? 1.00

04:45:14 Like I dap her up. 1.00

04:45:15 My Caucasian. 1.00

04:45:16 What's up? 0.59

04:45:17 No, y'all don't. 1.00

04:45:17 That's stupid. 1.00

04:45:18 My Caucasian. 1.00

04:45:20 My Caucasian.

04:45:21 My Caucasian.

04:45:22 My Caucasian.

04:45:23 Do Caucasian people have a word?

04:45:26 Well, I'm weird. 1.00

04:45:27 I say that shit. 1.00

04:45:28 But as a culture, y'all don't. 1.00

04:45:30 But would you ever, I'm not going to say it, but would you ever call me the N-word?

04:45:34 With an A.

04:45:35 I'm not going to lie. 1.00

04:45:37 Like as a homie thing.

04:45:39 I was, growing up, I was the only, we were the only black family in my neighborhood, right?

04:45:43 So, there were some kids that used the N word in the wrong way, and I would be that.

04:45:50 No, I wouldn't, no, I'm never, I'm not going to say it. 0.87

04:45:52 I grew up with my white friends that I went to school with, and I wouldn't call them that, but I would understand why some people do. 0.52

04:46:00 because our

04:46:02 culture, most people in our

04:46:04 culture have embraced the N-word

04:46:07 as a term of endearment. 1.00

04:46:09 It's like a friend.

04:46:10 It's like, hey, homie.

04:46:11 So when somebody would say, hey, Brian, 0.90

04:46:14 you my nigga, right? 0.81

04:46:16 Clip it and ship 1.00

04:46:17 that shit. 1.00

04:46:18 If they say that. 1.00

04:46:20 Clip it and ship it, boys.

04:46:22 That's just like saying you my dog, you my homie. 0.99

04:46:24 In that same way, you my Caucasian.

04:46:27 But y'all don't say that.

04:46:28 i'm trying to start it but i personally i do not caucasian please i personally do not call people

04:46:36 outside of the black culture that work um okay i don't know where i was going with the oh the

04:46:41 the height the height so yeah some guys are like i wouldn't date some guys say they wouldn't date

04:46:46 a taller woman like a woman who's taller than them or just a tall woman i don't have a problem

04:46:52 with it i i would some guys would be insecure i'll date i'm fine with it because you're tall

04:46:58 how tall are you yeah because you're over six well no but i'm not so i'm not just saying i

04:47:02 would date a girl who's five ten i'm saying you'll date a girl who's taller than me six five

04:47:07 and i'm yeah i'm six one six six six five and then she's gonna put heels on so she's gonna be

04:47:12 seven no without heels i'll date a woman who's six three he wants to breathe i need a volleyball 0.75

04:47:18 right yeah you need a volleyball star no but i mean i'll i'll date any height i don't really care

04:47:23 i would have some concern this is a concern in the back of the head for for men if y'all if

04:47:29 you're serious with a short girl you gotta think of the kids think of the kids you don't want a

04:47:36 with short man syndrome i i gotta you know so you know whatever any height's fine any height's fine 1.00

04:47:46 That's going to piss off every single woman ever. 1.00

04:47:52 Because the tall women are going to be like, oh, so you want to fuck the short women? 1.00

04:47:55 And the short women will be like, you want to impregnate the tall women and fuck them. 1.00

04:48:00 So look, you just want to fuck them all. 1.00

04:48:02 So that's it. 1.00

04:48:03 It's like Pokemon.

04:48:04 Yeah, it's like all dudes.

04:48:06 Yeah, you guys are good with everybody, right?

04:48:08 Yeah.

04:48:09 You ain't throwing nobody out of the bedroom.

04:48:11 Not over height.

04:48:13 Right, because at horizontal everybody's the same, right? 0.99

04:48:15 I'm an equal opportunity fucker. 1.00

04:48:18 I'll fuck a dwarf. 1.00

04:48:20 I believe you. 1.00

04:48:21 No, if any of you know a dwarf, link me up.

04:48:25 Get me connected.

04:48:27 You know somebody?

04:48:29 I went out with somebody. 1.00

04:48:31 You dated a male dwarf. 1.00

04:48:32 I went on a date. 0.99

04:48:33 Who here has dated a male dwarf? 1.00

04:48:35 I went on a date. 1.00

04:48:35 Who here fucks male dwarves? 1.00

04:48:37 I didn't do that. 1.00

04:48:38 Sorry, who would date a male dwarf, okay? 1.00

04:48:41 I would. 0.89

04:48:42 He was so nice.

04:48:43 He was really nice.

04:48:43 I would. 0.93

04:48:44 i once knew a mexican dwarf and that guy was dope his name was paul 0.98

04:48:51 that's it that's okay that's the story all right

04:48:56 okay uh so wait minimum height uh i think it was hard time right we were here uh how tall

04:49:04 are you minimum male height you would have nine yeah i'm five nine yes um i prefer someone a

04:49:10 a little bit taller okay yeah only because i've dated younger men and they make jokes and

04:49:18 just too much well okay your uh last your husband's how tall were they um over six foot like

04:49:25 six one okay uh what about you i'm five six um my man now he's five ten um and then the you have

04:49:35 you have a kid with him right no we don't have any kids okay my child's father they were what

04:49:40 like five eight um like both about the same height how tell you you're five six okay and um i would

04:49:48 date somebody that's the same height as me the reason and i don't have a problem with dating 0.99

04:49:54 shorter men the issue is men have short men syndrome i don't want to deal with that shit 0.97

04:49:59 if that's a thing yep and so the reason why you would say that you would date a taller woman is 0.99

04:50:05 because you are considered a tall yes he's tall short man syndrome yeah he doesn't no

04:50:10 because he's in that bracket.

04:50:13 Yeah.

04:50:14 You'll never understand what a shorter man feels like.

04:50:17 Exactly. 0.99

04:50:18 It's true.

04:50:18 It's a Napoleon thing. 0.97

04:50:20 They know that women prefer taller men, 0.91

04:50:22 so they have this chip on their shoulder. 0.99

04:50:24 So if I date a guy that is 5'4",

04:50:27 which I wouldn't have an issue,

04:50:28 he probably wouldn't want me to wear heels. 0.97

04:50:30 I mean, they also get mistreated. 1.00

04:50:32 They do get mistreated.

04:50:33 But I have solidarity with my short brothers

04:50:40 um you know i what why you have to do that accent what do you there was no my short short brothers

04:50:47 english is my second language so sometimes i you be playing no i'm dead i'm serious

04:50:54 english is not my first language you know what you be doing i don't

04:50:57 you know what's so crazy what's tell me what's in real life we we would probably be great friends 0.99

04:51:04 oh we'd be best friends i dated i went to school with assholes like you wait you know huh you did 0.99

04:51:09 I was the only black family in the neighborhood 1.00

04:51:12 And I would have to beat these kids up 1.00

04:51:14 Because they played too much 0.66

04:51:15 But I was friends with a lot of the white guys 1.00

04:51:18 And they used to be ass 0.97

04:51:19 But we found common ground and we were cool

04:51:22 Because it's, you know, I don't know

04:51:24 I just got a lightbulb

04:51:25 You remember that show that was on MTV

04:51:28 A long time ago

04:51:29 Rob, who's that?

04:51:32 Rob and Big

04:51:32 We should do that

04:51:34 It was a lightbulb that just went off

04:51:37 Because we're opposite 1.00

04:51:38 I should do streams, IRL streams, where I'm just kicking it with a bunch of black women. 1.00

04:51:45 That would be like, you know, just we're walking around and we're just talking. 1.00

04:51:49 They can teach you to twerk.

04:51:50 Learn to twerk. 0.93

04:51:51 And I'm white. 0.99

04:51:54 I want to see you twerk. 0.99

04:51:56 Can you twerk? 0.99

04:51:56 And then there's white men, you know what I mean? 0.52

04:51:58 Would you come to St. Louis to meet my friends and family and we stream the experience?

04:52:02 He's from Santa Barbara.

04:52:03 He is not going to St. Louis.

04:52:06 Would you do that?

04:52:07 I'm into film production. I would have

04:52:09 the production crew, the security.

04:52:11 I think we should do that.

04:52:14 It would be

04:52:15 fun. I'm from the mean streets of Santa

04:52:17 Barbara.

04:52:19 I don't think St. Louis is ready 1.00

04:52:21 for a Caucasian

04:52:23 like me. So I'm going to have

04:52:25 security for my people to protect

04:52:27 your people. Yeah, my St. Louis

04:52:29 people to protect them from you because

04:52:30 you'd be doing too much. Yeah, because you're

04:52:33 from the mean streets of Santa Barbara.

04:52:35 They need the protection. Yeah.

04:52:37 You know what y'all be on

04:52:39 You know what you people be on

04:52:41 Yep

04:52:42 They better watch out

04:52:45 Watch out 1.00

04:52:47 White boy over here 1.00

04:52:50 Alright 1.00

04:52:50 That would actually be really funny

04:52:53 Like it would be not sorry I shouldn't say funny

04:52:56 It would be fun

04:52:57 It would be 1.00

04:52:58 Cause black women 0.99

04:53:00 I love black women

04:53:02 Oh do you 1.00

04:53:03 Of course

04:53:04 okay you're all you're the they're the most fun fun in what way is this like that scene from

04:53:12 goodfellas wait how's it go um am i a comedian you think i'm what do you mean funny yeah you

04:53:21 know what i mean yeah what what do you mean funny well what do you mean what do you mean what do

04:53:26 you mean funny what do you mean funny like haha like you think i'm a joke okay this is your

04:53:33 robert de niro yeah all right that was a serious question no like they're they got uh they got aura

04:53:39 they got vibrance they got they got they got uh yeah yeah we just got that that thing they got

04:53:48 that thing can't explain it it's just there can't explain it just in us it's just there yeah anyways

04:53:53 have you dated a black woman before black women don't want to date me is the problem uh i'm open 0.75

04:54:00 to it but also in the mean streets of santa barbara there's not a lot of black women 0.96

04:54:06 there's not a lot of black people here but black women don't want to date me why i think black 0.79

04:54:15 women prefer to date black guys or maybe mexicans i dated a white guy once how was it how'd that go 0.93

04:54:21 though um what was the difference first of all i like i like i don't like the white men that act 0.95

04:54:26 that try to act cool and try to act black.

04:54:30 I like a white guy. 0.91

04:54:31 You want them to know their place.

04:54:33 Be yourself. 0.97

04:54:34 The white men need to know their place. 0.98

04:54:35 Not even a place, just be yourself. 0.96

04:54:37 You know, because like I said, I grew up,

04:54:39 let me tell you something,

04:54:40 the first male attraction I had was to a white boy

04:54:44 because I was in a predominantly white school

04:54:47 in an all-white neighborhood.

04:54:49 And so I dated a white guy. 0.68

04:54:51 And after I gave him some, he just went crazy. 0.99

04:54:54 and he just started just doing weird shit 0.96

04:54:57 and it scared me 0.98

04:54:59 and I don't think he could handle it

04:55:01 you know what I'm saying

04:55:02 he couldn't handle all this 0.63

04:55:04 he just started going psycho

04:55:07 and it scared me

04:55:09 no I just think 1.00

04:55:11 the black women don't 1.00

04:55:12 they don't 1.00

04:55:13 I don't do it for them 1.00

04:55:16 I don't do it for the black women 1.00

04:55:18 you won't be surprised 1.00

04:55:21 at how many black women 1.00

04:55:22 i don't know you know i think i think that i think that um just the things that you say 0.74

04:55:31 you know your outlook on things am i out of pocket make a black woman feel like that you're racist or

04:55:37 or you know you're you you're stereotypical like you stereotype black women but see i'm so not 1.00

04:55:43 racist because i have one black friend that's the most racist shit you could ever say and i would 1.00

04:55:49 have sex with black women so how could i ever be racist that that doesn't mean you're not racist 1.00

04:55:55 you could just want to fuck but like what let me ask you a question what is more racist 1.00

04:56:02 a guy who only wants to fuck black women or a guy who does not want to fuck black women 1.00

04:56:07 i don't think that either is racist oh but the one black friend shit 1.00

04:56:16 when people say that shit 1.00

04:56:18 they are the most racist people 1.00

04:56:20 because why is that even a thing 1.00

04:56:22 I might have two black friends

04:56:24 but why is that even something to mention 1.00

04:56:25 would it be better if it was zero

04:56:28 yeah 0.99

04:56:30 you want me to have less black friends 0.67

04:56:33 what if I came and I said 0.86

04:56:35 you know what I have one white friend

04:56:36 I have one white friend though 1.00

04:56:38 but black people don't say that

04:56:40 only white people that 0.97

04:56:43 are kind of racist say that 0.97

04:56:45 mean streets of santa barbara there's not a lot of black people out here 0.91

04:56:48 so you don't ever go outside of santa barbara huh you don't ever go outside when i was young

04:56:53 my i had a half black was he full black he was like light skin but both his parents were a little

04:57:01 black both his parents were light skin

04:57:04 so he's black then we come in all shades

04:57:11 all right like your uh big labia matter uh shade blm i find that interesting why why did you do

04:57:21 that you're trying to be funny no total coincidence that's that's that's why i actually

04:57:25 started big labia matter first when what year look i've been interested in what year large 1.00

04:57:32 pussy. So why is this the emoji? 0.99

04:57:35 What do you mean?

04:57:36 This. Because Big Labia

04:57:38 comes in all shapes and sizes. Why is this the emoji?

04:57:41 Why it's not the cat emoji?

04:57:43 Because you're trying to play. You know what?

04:57:44 Thank you. Can you change it to the cat emoji for me?

04:57:46 I'm going to check my privilege. 0.99

04:57:48 I'm going to change that shit. 0.99

04:57:51 Because you're right. 1.00

04:57:52 That's shady. That's shady as hell.

04:57:54 And then you hashtag BLM. 0.61

04:57:57 Big Labia Matter.

04:57:58 You know where that hashtag came from. 0.96

04:58:01 I started BLM.

04:58:02 what year look what year if you could see you play too much if you could see my i don't really 0.96

04:58:11 watch much porn anymore thank god but i'm looking up big labia but you know what i mean i was 0.98

04:58:20 searching that shit you know yeah that was like your first before porn hub really porn hub was 0.98

04:58:28 really yeah you've always just had a it just i would find it somehow and i just i'm i think it 0.99

04:58:35 started in 2009 wow which predates you didn't start that in 2009 show me proof that you were

04:58:43 hashtagging blm and i was big labia matter trust me i was big you were doing like this big labia

04:58:49 i was doing like this in 2009 you play too much brian if you could see my browser history you 1.00

04:58:54 would know i was looking up big pussy when fucking obama was still president does it feel 0.99

04:59:03 different is that why it feels different looks different yeah okay i'm just curious i believe 1.00

04:59:09 you but i know you being shady hashtag here pull that shit up tiffany pull that you was doing like 0.89

04:59:14 this let's let me this like you know what that is what you think this is it's like how does that 0.98

04:59:23 relate to alabia how does it why is it not a sandwich on there how does it relate to

04:59:28 you could even use the peach bologna sandwich but you are playing and look at that look at his shirt

04:59:33 you play too much what's wrong with the shirt it's nothing wrong with the shirt you know what 1.00

04:59:40 you're doing you're an asshole you are such an asshole and that's why we could really be friends 1.00

04:59:46 yes you are an asshole wait what's wrong with this you know you know the black lives matter 1.00

04:59:50 shit. That's, you know, the plan. They would do Black Lives Matter. And then that. You 1.00

04:59:57 got a lady a shirt? Show me something before 2014, before the Mike Brown situation. Who's 1.00

05:00:03 Mike Brown? Because that's, y'all know who Mike Brown is? In St. Louis, a police officer

05:00:08 shot and killed an unarmed black kid that had his hands up and he got off. And the people

05:00:15 of st louis my a lot of my family included we were protesting and we were getting tear gas we

05:00:21 were in all type of stuff oh wow they were the police were killing other people getting away

05:00:26 with it it's a lot behind it so the black lives matter movement was created in st louis yes oh

05:00:32 from that situation and it became a worldwide thing to stand in solidarity with black people

05:00:38 who are mistreated due to their color and the police brutality now that movement was hijacked

05:00:44 I thought it was by George, right?

05:00:47 No, George Floyd.

05:00:48 That came out.

05:00:48 That's totally different.

05:00:49 Oh, that's after.

05:00:50 Okay. 0.94

05:00:51 So the black, Mike Brown happened in 2014. 0.84

05:00:53 Okay.

05:00:54 But yeah, that movement was totally like hijacked. 0.99

05:00:56 People started taking advantage, stealing money, all type of crazy shit.

05:00:59 So the movement ain't really what it used to be. 0.79

05:01:01 Yeah.

05:01:01 But he's being funny by hashtagging BLM and putting the fist up because that's where it came from.

05:01:07 And then also the Black Lives Matter was, it was printed repeatedly, like on merch and, you know,

05:01:13 statuses and stuff like that so he's trying to be funny okay it's not funny i see what he did there 0.99

05:01:19 but the big the big labia shit is funny but he's trying to he trying to like play with the black 0.98

05:01:25 lives matter movement well hopefully comes down with the labiana shirt we're about to see he's 0.98

05:01:32 got merch oh he does does he yes i i believe but i know i know he didn't start that before that i

05:01:39 know what he's doing. He's an asshole. He's just trolling. I know. I need another Red Bull 1.00

05:01:55 and some water. Right now is a good time for you to plug in if you have your website or

05:02:04 whatever we can do that probably why not right okay my instagram is underscore i'm underscore

05:02:13 prettier two r's another underscore follow box then follow wicked films here he comes 0.97

05:02:18 with his big labia matter big labia matter with no labia 0.97

05:02:24 you don't support my cause 0.97

05:02:35 I support 1.00

05:02:37 women of all different labia sizes 0.97

05:02:41 but here's the thing 1.00

05:02:43 all labia can't matter until big labia

05:02:46 matter 0.99

05:02:46 what if you've met

05:02:50 somebody

05:02:50 if you're going to play with

05:02:53 Black Lives Matter

05:02:55 Well, the movement is totally hijacked. 1.00

05:02:57 I don't care.

05:02:57 But you're trying to play.

05:02:59 Yeah, they bought a mansion. 1.00

05:03:01 The BLM people bought a mansion. 0.99

05:03:04 But the original cause, you know, like that's a real thing. 0.99

05:03:08 You know what I'm saying?

05:03:09 I know.

05:03:10 But so for you to do the fist, that's shady.

05:03:14 Do you forgive me?

05:03:15 No, because when you change it, I'll forgive you.

05:03:19 All right.

05:03:20 What if you fell in love with someone that didn't have them?

05:03:22 We'll touch.

05:03:23 We'll circle back.

05:03:24 We'll circle back.

05:03:26 We'll see how things go.

05:03:28 Okay, let's finish this up.

05:03:29 How tall are you minimum male height? 0.56

05:03:33 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

05:03:34 Okay, 5'7 1⁄2".

05:03:36 The shortest I'm going is 5'5".

05:03:38 No, don't go that way.

05:03:40 Don't go that way.

05:03:41 Tiffany, give her instructions, please.

05:03:43 And the tallest guy I've dated, 6'6".

05:03:47 My ex-husband was 6'2".

05:03:49 My husband now is 5'10".

05:03:52 Okay.

05:03:53 All right.

05:03:54 Does anyone here support Lindsay Clancy?

05:03:56 Who is that?

05:03:57 The girl who killed her three kids. 0.97

05:03:59 Alyssa, you say mixed feelings?

05:04:01 I've heard of her, but I don't know the whole story.

05:04:02 Okay, Alyssa, really quick.

05:04:04 You say mixed feelings on Lindsay Clancy.

05:04:06 Why is that?

05:04:07 No, no, no.

05:04:08 I do not support her for killing her children.

05:04:12 Definitely not.

05:04:13 But there's a lot.

05:04:15 The issues that I have are all of the medication that she was taking that led to bad things happening.

05:04:22 you know so what was she taken uh just a plethora of psychotic medication so you know the doctors

05:04:31 take this take this take this okay and unfortunately the psychiatrist yeah but am i do i support her

05:04:36 uh she killed her children definitely not no uh would you find her guilty if you were on the jury

05:04:43 trial i would okay nothing nothing to really discuss there all right we'll finish up on the

05:04:49 questionnaire here nothing nothing really much for uh for alex um we have pepper uh i'll come

05:04:58 back to you on that i want to go to heather uh men should pay on first dates men should provide

05:05:03 protect men should be chivalrous husband should be willing to die protecting you take the bullet

05:05:08 you will keep your last name or hyphenate marriage

05:05:12 um that's i mean that's negotiable too what if it's a bad last name 0.96

05:05:20 fuck well you got a decent last i know and it's like chadwell yeah heather chadwell right it's

05:05:28 chad but the well with well i know and wells are cool yeah or being well is good yeah all is well 0.99

05:05:37 Yeah, I think...

05:05:38 Well with the Chad.

05:05:39 Yeah.

05:05:42 Okay, so Heather. 1.00

05:05:44 Yes.

05:05:44 So you would be willing to take the husband's last name, though?

05:05:47 Yes, because when I was engaged, I was going to take my fiancé's last name.

05:05:50 All right.

05:05:51 Correct.

05:05:53 Okay, no one else circled on that.

05:05:54 We have...

05:05:56 Let's do...

05:05:58 Okay.

05:06:03 Wait, so hold on.

05:06:04 Trees?

05:06:09 Prettier.

05:06:10 People of color can't be racist towards white people.

05:06:12 You didn't circle that.

05:06:13 I didn't. 0.80

05:06:14 So, okay, black people can be racist towards white people? 0.99

05:06:16 Hell yeah. 1.00

05:06:17 Oh, okay.

05:06:17 All right.

05:06:18 There you go.

05:06:21 Or other races or what have you. 0.84

05:06:24 By definition, yeah. 0.94

05:06:26 Okay.

05:06:27 All right.

05:06:28 Because sometimes we have people come on the show, whether they're white or black or Latino,

05:06:32 know whatever they say people of color can't be racist yeah they say that and i but you disagree

05:06:38 i can see where they're going but at the end of the day by definition if you discriminate against

05:06:43 people because of their ethnic ethnic background their color their skin then you're you're a racist

05:06:50 look at that i agree with you well put uh okay we have

05:06:57 Pepper, let's just go to you. 1.00

05:07:01 Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA. 1.00

05:07:04 Why is that? 1.00

05:07:07 Because in a divorce, for example,

05:07:09 men don't get equal custody for children.

05:07:14 They have to pay alimony. 0.96

05:07:16 They have to give up their house. 1.00

05:07:19 So women don't have the same rights. 0.95

05:07:21 Men have less rights. 1.00

05:07:23 That's why. 1.00

05:07:24 Oh, okay.

05:07:24 But I see what you're saying there.

05:07:27 but i guess the question is more so framed from uh men having rights uh that women don't do you

05:07:35 no oh okay no well there's nothing i agree with you there's really nothing to argue about on that

05:07:40 um let's see if anyone else pinged on that uh alissa you say men are more or at least agree

05:07:48 that men are more privileged in society than women why is that i think in the in the business world

05:07:54 things like that i do business yeah in corporate um culture i do

05:08:00 okay i'm just saying because i've experienced it so how so um i worked for a corporation uh for

05:08:09 10 years and um yeah it was really it was very difficult to move around because

05:08:15 because i was a woman yeah and i have lots of friends that experienced the same thing

05:08:22 in a predominantly male field i worked for a sports company so yeah now but uh my question

05:08:31 to you then is so i understand that maybe you don't get a promotion or maybe you don't get

05:08:38 something or what what have you where's the evidence though that it's because you're a woman

05:08:43 um well i think it's sometimes i could tell you i'd sat in uh meetings for hours at a time

05:08:50 um and the women are just not hurt they're not taking it seriously in in certain you know

05:08:56 especially in the sports world um that i was in and i and you know and i have friends that are in

05:09:02 the car automobile business also it's the same thing i mean it's a man's it's unfortunate but

05:09:08 it happens it's real um okay uh

05:09:14 i lived i lived it well look i'm certain i'm sure there's exam there's examples of it happening but

05:09:26 um i mean i would um i mean i think i think that things are changing now uh because women are you

05:09:36 know there's a lot of ceos and cfos that are women so i think it's it is changing but i'm talking

05:09:43 about for myself like 20 years ago when i was working okay in that world that's all uh pepper

05:09:50 you say that people of color can't be racist towards white people can be oh maybe you just

05:09:57 oh maybe maybe can women be sexist towards men okay then there's maybe just an accidental uh circle 0.99

05:10:05 why does that make me an asshole that's what it was she accidentally circled it 0.93

05:10:14 i agree just they can be no but the statement is people of color can't be racist no it's it's not 0.95

05:10:24 a big deal just you just accidentally serve it i'm not upset uh let's see um

05:10:32 treese women are oppressed in the usa why is that or how's that yes so just like she said um 0.92

05:10:48 women we could i could get hired at the same job as you you're probably going to get paid

05:10:55 more than me i might be more experienced than you um men look at women a certain way they treat

05:11:01 women a certain way um you're like it's just it's just like there there are more i would say like

05:11:08 how do i say this

05:11:10 it's like more double standards toward women than there are with men like the body count um you know 0.94

05:11:20 like shit like that like and so like i don't know it's just like men men treat women differently 0.96

05:11:25 like you could say that men and women do have equal rights because there's nothing that a man 0.99

05:11:29 can do that a woman can't do but women are treated differently in certain spaces in the

05:11:35 workspace you know like it's just we we are oppressed we're paid less we're we're looked at

05:11:39 as I don't even think men some men don't even like women like it just you know I don't know

05:11:45 like it's getting like that yeah like it's just I don't know like we we have it harder you know

05:11:51 like I feel like y'all got it easy y'all got it easy men are oppressed it's like the hands-made

05:11:58 tale but for men it's completely backwards you guys just want to use us for our sperm you want 1.00

05:12:04 to like put us in cages and then jerk us off get our sperm fucking impregnate yourselves please 1.00

05:12:11 the wage gap has been debunked the wage gap debunked um i've had women grab my ass that's 1.00

05:12:19 right women just you know when i was back in my college days you know when you know i was plump 1.00

05:12:26 in a different way women would just take a little grab like i so many times women just grab my ass 1.00

05:12:33 and how did that make you feel what so you got a big butt or something 1.00

05:12:36 they still they still grabbed it though you know like a flat traumatized what i don't know but 0.90

05:12:41 so why no i got it i got a badonka dong

05:12:45 but what's that what's a badonka dong i don't know why you think i know what a badonka dong

05:12:50 i don't think you know what it is i think all the white women here know what it is but

05:12:54 You don't. 0.88

05:12:59 Yeah, we got to do that series.

05:13:02 We're going to call it

05:13:04 Brian

05:13:04 Brian and Treese.

05:13:11 Treese.

05:13:12 Brian, Treese, and BBL.

05:13:15 Alright, let's do it. 1.00

05:13:18 Let's fucking do it. 1.00

05:13:20 Okay. 1.00

05:13:21 You also

05:13:23 right or rather you agree um well this relates men are more privileged in society than than women

05:13:32 especially white men

05:13:33 am i lying we have it rough okay how we have it rough first off the amount of privilege

05:13:45 black men have you you're about to laugh even saying that i don't know what you're talking

05:13:51 about i get me and her get sunburned so easily and i think the sun is racist because why when 1.00

05:14:01 i go out into the sun i can't go out for five minutes my shit's gonna be fucking red and 0.99

05:14:07 peeling and shit y'all can be out in the sun the sun's racist i had to cover up my son i was 0.99

05:14:16 outside riding bikes by the beach and i and my forehead is black now wasn't it black it wasn't 0.99

05:14:23 it wasn't like burnt it was burnt and i tried i had to try to cover it up but you burn black 0.95

05:14:29 people can still get burned but it takes longer yeah and i think that's fucked up but that we 0.96

05:14:37 can't help that i know no it's not your your fault but i feel like the universe is telling 0.81

05:14:43 us something yeah that we are the chosen of the earth that's right wakanda superior genes

05:14:51 oh whoa hey whoa let's not get we're gonna go in today whoa careful with that one okay

05:14:59 careful with that one i'm just saying it's unfair look i get i get sunburned five minutes 0.99

05:15:04 middle of summer i'm out there at noon you should use i'm fucked it's just very unfair 0.98

05:15:11 you should use sunscreen no so white people need to that's an expense that white people 0.99

05:15:21 you know how women complain about the pink tax like oh our products are more expensive we got 1.00

05:15:27 to buy more shit i think that there's a white tax we got to buy sunscreen and that's fucked up 1.00

05:15:34 And mayonnaise. 1.00

05:15:36 I love mayonnaise.

05:15:37 I like mayonnaise.

05:15:38 I hate mayonnaise.

05:15:40 I love everything.

05:15:41 You hate mayonnaise?

05:15:42 I do not like mayonnaise.

05:15:43 Do you?

05:15:43 I hate mayonnaise.

05:15:44 What's your least favorite?

05:15:45 I don't know where the mayonnaise thing came from.

05:15:47 Let's just move on.

05:15:47 Do you hate like ranch and like all?

05:15:49 No, ranch is good.

05:15:51 Ranch is good?

05:15:51 With pizza.

05:15:52 Oh, yeah.

05:15:53 And fries?

05:15:55 You don't like mayonnaise?

05:15:57 I do not like mayonnaise.

05:15:58 You know what? 1.00

05:15:58 You might be black. 1.00

05:16:00 Are we going to? 0.99

05:16:00 Now that I said I don't like mayonnaise, we're going to kick it?

05:16:03 we can kick it because of the mayonnaise thing

05:16:05 because of the mayonnaise thing

05:16:06 you're bonding over mayonnaise

05:16:08 we have done more

05:16:11 for race relations

05:16:13 on this podcast

05:16:14 than I can really think

05:16:16 and you know

05:16:17 I'm just saying I think we've

05:16:20 made a lot of progress here

05:16:22 we are going to go back to our respective 0.99

05:16:24 tribes we're going to go back

05:16:26 and be like we made progress today

05:16:28 over mayonnaise we made progress

05:16:30 we are healing

05:16:32 you're healing

05:16:33 I hate mayonnaise though

05:16:35 I don't like it

05:16:38 okay anyways

05:16:38 don't like it

05:16:41 coleslaw 1.00

05:16:42 do black people like coleslaw 0.98

05:16:45 I love coleslaw

05:16:46 is coleslaw a white thing

05:16:49 I think that's an anybody thing 1.00

05:16:51 macaroni and salad is white people shit 1.00

05:16:54 oh it is 1.00

05:16:55 when y'all put raisins in potato salad 1.00

05:16:58 and shit 0.99

05:16:59 I don't know 1.00

05:17:01 who gets that yeah that's like that i've never seen that yeah it's white people's shit green 1.00

05:17:07 bean casserole is yeah is it we don't make you know there's not one black house that makes 0.99

05:17:12 stream bean casserole but every time i've gone over my friends my white friend's house for

05:17:17 like thanksgiving or something there is green bean casserole with with crispy onions on top

05:17:22 and then they put raisins in the potato salad i ain't never seen me neither i've heard the

05:17:30 She over there, quiet. 1.00

05:17:32 Yeah, I put raisins in, yeah, I put that salad.

05:17:34 I hope not. 0.98

05:17:36 You tired her out.

05:17:38 You did talk wrong.

05:17:39 Okay, I think we got two more for Treece.

05:17:44 Did I say it right?

05:17:45 Yeah.

05:17:45 Okay. 0.86

05:17:47 Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.

05:17:54 Why would it be wrong?

05:17:57 If that was the only reason, like if she's not having sex with you, you need to figure 1.00

05:18:02 out why she's not having sex with you because if a woman is withholding sex, there's a reason. 0.99

05:18:08 There is. 0.86

05:18:08 So you have to get down to the bottom of it.

05:18:10 Now, if... 1.00

05:18:11 Could the reason be she's being a bitch? 1.00

05:18:16 Mm-mm. 1.00

05:18:18 Is that ever the reason?

05:18:19 Yeah, PMS, because we do have hormonal things, but that's not the main. 1.00

05:18:22 But why is she being a bitch? 1.00

05:18:24 It's a domino effect. 1.00

05:18:25 If it's a hormonal thing, then she's probably just withholding sex during, you know, that time of the month. 0.65

05:18:29 That time of the month, right.

05:18:31 But, I mean, I'm doing it on that time of the month.

05:18:33 Hey.

05:18:33 But.

05:18:35 What's up, Mr. Northumberland?

05:18:37 Thank you, man.

05:18:37 Thank you for the subject.

05:18:40 That's.

05:18:40 Hey, Northumberland.

05:18:42 Do you.

05:18:44 It's a bit too funny.

05:18:45 Do you.

05:18:45 Are you okay with this?

05:18:46 Are you okay with this? 0.97

05:18:49 That's a black man right there. 0.97

05:18:50 Mm-hmm. 0.87

05:18:51 He probably thinks he's white, though. 0.99

05:18:52 By the way, that's an FAB. 0.99

05:18:53 He probably wants to be white. 0.98

05:18:55 Do you know what an FAB is? 0.97

05:18:56 No, what's that? 1.00

05:18:56 A fat ass bitch? 1.00

05:18:57 Or sorry, wait. 1.00

05:18:58 No, FBA, my God.

05:19:00 FBA. 1.00

05:19:00 Fat black ass? 1.00

05:19:01 No. 1.00

05:19:03 What's that?

05:19:04 Get your mind out of the gutter.

05:19:05 What is it? 1.00

05:19:07 Foundational black American.

05:19:09 What does that mean?

05:19:10 You.

05:19:11 I guess it means like you were here from the beginning.

05:19:16 You're peoples.

05:19:17 What peoples? 0.88

05:19:19 You're peoples.

05:19:19 Which, what people?

05:19:20 What you mean, you people?

05:19:21 What you mean, you people?

05:19:23 Exactly.

05:19:23 like because there's black americans but they weren't part of slavery

05:19:32 so i i'm confused me too i'm should we just move it i've never heard of fba

05:19:41 foundational black american i think that's like like they have their

05:19:45 no they come from slavery you're saying that they're related to somebody in slavery

05:19:49 families like that uh i don't know where i was going with that i don't know sometimes i just

05:19:57 say something okay but so uh wrong for man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him

05:20:03 down for sex what if uh wrong what if a man is it wrong for a girlfriend to dump a man

05:20:12 if he regularly turns her down for sex no in the same way that you need to figure out why 0.92

05:20:17 a man don't want to have sex she's consistent yeah okay it's not a gender thing to me it's an

05:20:23 individual thing so if my if if if i am dating someone and i'm not having sex with them it's

05:20:29 because i'm mad about something either there's lack of inconsistency there's lack of romance

05:20:34 you're not doing it right you're not listening to me it's something so if you don't figure out

05:20:39 what it is i'm not i'm not going to be horny fair enough uh let's see one or two more here

05:20:44 from the questionnaire past should not matter um to which heather yes you agree with that i do

05:20:53 uh you also agree with that and uh yeah so why is that why should past not matter for you too

05:21:02 um i think we all go through different phases in life and um you know you could have a certain

05:21:11 stage where say in your 20s but then as you get older then it's the complete opposite so

05:21:18 what are we oh no you're talking to this guy oh yeah he says i'm invited to the were you saying

05:21:26 no i'm not invited you know what you know what i don't think i've ever had black food

05:21:34 that sounds bad i've never been given food like 0.97

05:21:43 i want to try it i'm a great cook i wanted to like i want to go to a barbecue or some shit 0.65

05:21:50 i can do that for you i swear to god i'm a i'm an amazing cook people people request for me to 0.66

05:21:57 make pans oh wow i could cook i could cook a whole thanksgiving i could cook dang i think

05:22:02 it's a santa barbara thing i know how to barbecue because i have a lot of mexican food i'll tell i

05:22:07 i eat a lot of mexican i know how to barbecue i will do charcoal barbecue too at the same time

05:22:11 and make a whole spread damn i got you down i promise okay we'll do it okay that should be i 0.97

05:22:21 should do a series where i go and kick it with black people and i i go there there the the 0.98

05:22:29 barbecue what cookouts what is that good crunch on go like crunch it's a cookout i'm gonna go

05:22:34 yeah i'm gonna just do it get some soul food i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna do it you should i would i

05:22:42 would take you to do all these things we're doing it okay we're doing it all right okay can i wear

05:22:48 a do-rag if you want to you're gonna get talked about talked about yeah is it okay for me to

05:22:57 Why would you want to wear a do-rag?

05:22:57 I want to fit in. 0.98

05:22:58 Why do you play someone?

05:22:59 I want to fit in. 1.00

05:23:00 So all black people wear a do-rag? 1.00

05:23:01 I want... 1.00

05:23:02 I want... 1.00

05:23:04 No, not all black people wear a do-rag. 1.00

05:23:04 Because that's a part of the culture, right?

05:23:06 I just want to fit in.

05:23:07 So you... 0.95

05:23:08 My man don't wear a do-rag... 0.99

05:23:11 Because... 1.00

05:23:11 When he's black. 0.99

05:23:13 You want to feel closer. 0.96

05:23:15 Yes.

05:23:16 I want...

05:23:17 I want them to feel comfortable. 1.00

05:23:21 So if you walk in with a do-rag... 1.00

05:23:23 I feel like they'll be more comfortable. 1.00

05:23:26 like can i ask you a question yeah do you feel because it's all white people here

05:23:34 well she's russian i don't know that's still white tiffany is asian i'm not white okay well 0.97

05:23:42 let's not do that debate uh tiffany back there is a korean woman she's asian but she's basically 0.72

05:23:50 white you know in her own way special way so but i mean you know 0.99

05:23:59 how do you does it feel weird being surrounded in a room with white people i was very nervous

05:24:08 were you really at first what did you think was gonna happen um i didn't i don't know what to

05:24:15 expect around y'all I'm just playing I'm just playing but no because because I feel like you

05:24:20 are I don't know I felt like you were a bit of a racist and then when you came in like the angry 0.77

05:24:27 white man uh-huh like the angry white man and you didn't speak to nobody and you complained about 0.92

05:24:34 I didn't speak to you because of because I'm black yeah that's why you know I'm saying I didn't I 0.74

05:24:39 didn't like that but I didn't speak to any of them because they're women so now you have to decide 1.00

05:24:43 Now you have to pick 1.00

05:24:45 Which one's worse 0.98

05:24:47 I got bitched off for the hand sanitizer

05:24:50 And I washed my hands

05:24:51 I'm just kidding

05:24:52 I'm just introverted

05:24:59 Past shouldn't matter

05:25:02 That's what we were on

05:25:04 It's true

05:25:05 It's true

05:25:07 The mean streets of Santa Barbara

05:25:10 I ran these streets

05:25:12 What should we do on these streets?

05:25:13 yeah it's my first time here it's cool you know you literally just run that's it it's cute

05:25:20 look you know i've always wanted to come here you want to you want to make sure that people know

05:25:27 what block it is up in here yeah yeah because a lot of people look at me like i didn't belong here

05:25:37 and I was very scared. Really?

05:25:39 I thought they were, yeah. Yeah, but I told

05:25:41 my peoples

05:25:42 that you were cool. I let

05:25:45 them know ahead of time that you got the clearance

05:25:47 to come through. So when I go back to ride bikes

05:25:49 by the beach tomorrow, everybody's going to be cool

05:25:51 now because they know we know each other.

05:25:53 They know. Okay. I told my people.

05:25:56 Okay. 1.00

05:25:57 Look for the black woman with the BBL. 1.00

05:26:01 Don't hassle her. Okay. 1.00

05:26:03 Alright. Passion and Matter.

05:26:05 That was you. What's her? Passion and Matter.

05:26:07 how about this you know what passion matter um to the two women who said passion matter 0.92

05:26:12 would you date a man who used to have sex with men 0.59

05:26:16 i feel like most do these days most do i feel like a lot of guys are dl especially the ones 0.95

05:26:27 that are heavy into porn because eventually it's just not enough and not enough and not enough and

05:26:32 eventually just and yeah and i i made the mistake i thought this is before i started researching

05:26:39 porn because uh my last boyfriend liked it so i bought him a tv thinking oh he'll just stay home

05:26:45 and just whatever but then no because then eventually you got to touch it and then you

05:26:48 gotta and then then it's you know um with a woman it's not um like the same rush that dopamine rush

05:26:57 because it's just so much more

05:27:00 on these videos.

05:27:02 Yeah, because it's like actors.

05:27:04 No, I'm talking about regular

05:27:05 porn, but 0.74

05:27:08 if you watch too much

05:27:10 of it consistently, then it's

05:27:12 just not going to be enough, and eventually 0.96

05:27:14 you're going to be backing your ass up to a 0.99

05:27:15 tennis racket. 1.00

05:27:17 You want to know what's so crazy about porn? 0.99

05:27:19 I watched male-on-male porn 0.98

05:27:23 that I dated. 0.97

05:27:25 It turned me off. 1.00

05:27:26 What the fuck? 1.00

05:27:27 I can't watch actors 1.00

05:27:29 I know a couple of foreign girls 1.00

05:27:32 and I don't know how 1.00

05:27:33 it even came on my screen

05:27:36 it was on Facebook

05:27:38 you know how they put the link in the comments

05:27:40 I clicked on it and I was like

05:27:42 I don't know it kind of turned me on a little bit

05:27:44 that was crazy

05:27:47 but I wouldn't mind being a beard

05:27:51 a beard for somebody

05:27:52 okay

05:27:53 would you date a guy 0.99

05:27:56 who had sex with men

05:27:57 In the past

05:27:59 Like is it your preference

05:28:02 It's weird though

05:28:04 Because I've always

05:28:06 Had somewhat of an attraction 0.80

05:28:08 To like metro sexual guys 0.85

05:28:10 That I thought were straight 0.99

05:28:12 And then they were gay 1.00

05:28:13 Like Ricky Martin, George Michael 0.99

05:28:15 Ricky Martin?

05:28:16 Yeah right

05:28:16 I didn't know that

05:28:19 Is Brett Michaels

05:28:21 He's so straight

05:28:23 Super straight

05:28:24 There's no way

05:28:27 and you were on the show with brett michaels rock of love yes seasons one through three one two and 0.99

05:28:32 three that's right let's go yeah and you saw his penis once i did one one time or more than once 0.99

05:28:39 how many times remember i drank a lot of balls of great goose did you see his penis well i mean 0.99

05:28:45 he wears tight jeans for 20 years and there's like a print now you know it's like did he ever 0.98

05:28:50 bring you to a con do they yes he hired me he hired me to host some of the shows right after

05:28:56 Is he still doing shows?

05:28:58 Oh, yeah.

05:28:59 Well, I think he was ill for a little bit, so he had to take a break.

05:29:02 But no, that's his life.

05:29:04 He's a road dog, and that's what gives him joy, I think.

05:29:07 Were you ever romantically involved with any other famous musicians from the era?

05:29:15 No, but I did date Clark Gable's grandson, Clark Gable III, who was the hottest thing on the planet. 0.99

05:29:24 Who the fuck is that guy? 0.98

05:29:25 yeah so god rest his soul but man he was fucking hot he's no longer with no he died at the age of 1.00

05:29:33 30 sadly but he looked just like his grandfather but with a tatted tatted up i mean he was he 0.96

05:29:40 wait whoa cheaters host sorry i just had a thought when you said you dated a guy who

05:29:45 is now dead i know to rock stars but if any of the women i've ever had sex with are dead now

05:29:55 you ever think that no no because it's just reality for me just me at a certain age yeah

05:30:03 but i'm i'm 37 i'm getting up there you know but i do sometimes ponder 0.56

05:30:10 i wonder something like i don't know some of these women what they're up to

05:30:16 yeah well i mean nobody lives forever do they have kids what are they up to you know you might 0.93

05:30:23 you might have some kids out there some girl i dated you know some girl i dated 20 years ago

05:30:29 10 years ago whatever 15 years ago where what's she up to you know i think about these things

05:30:36 yeah is she you know she alive i like to think highly of my previous partners but you never know

05:30:46 yeah you know i bet some girl 15 years ago was like well you know now she's like i would have 0.94

05:30:54 never thought i would have fucked that podcast guy you should bring you should bring them on 0.66

05:30:58 the show and ask them what they remember about you i don't think i would ever i don't know if i 0.95

05:31:03 bring a girl who i dated on the show i'm private i'm pretty private anyways uh

05:31:13 Okay, going around the table, what's your body count, starting with you?

05:31:25 I'm going to be honest, Brian.

05:31:27 Be honest.

05:31:28 Be very honest.

05:31:29 I racked up more bodies after I got married than I had before I got married with my first husband,

05:31:34 so it's pretty high.

05:31:35 so overall yeah

05:31:39 I would say between like 45 or 50 45 to 50 yeah and question what was it prior to the first marriage

05:31:52 oh only like seven or eight okay so wait seven or eight then you were married and you were faithful

05:32:00 during the marriage yes and then you guys divorced and then in the no no no no he wanted to do what 0.69

05:32:10 he wanted to do so i married a d a d gen we lived like d gents and then oh you guys had a like

05:32:19 poly uh no it was not poly it was he wanted to do what he wanted to do so he slept with all of

05:32:27 my friends and i dated like three guys while we were married but then there was like an open

05:32:37 relationship sort of okay it became that because he came to me and said i want you to make friends

05:32:44 And after that incident occurred, I got four bodies in between the two husbands. 1.00

05:32:58 Your husband wanted other men to fuck you? 1.00

05:33:00 Yeah, he was a cuck to you. 1.00

05:33:02 Cuck? 0.99

05:33:03 When you say cuck.

05:33:05 Yeah, you know exactly what I mean.

05:33:06 I'm using it like, yes, why?

05:33:08 In the corner, watching.

05:33:11 Did not care.

05:33:13 When I say he did not care, he did not care.

05:33:15 I didn't know that he didn't care.

05:33:16 It's because it's a fetish. 0.98

05:33:19 Wait, who here has dated a cuck? 0.96

05:33:23 What's the exact definition?

05:33:24 Well, okay.

05:33:25 A guy you've dated, I probably had sex with, but maybe not. 1.00

05:33:31 And then he wants to watch you fuck another man. 1.00

05:33:34 Never in a million years. 1.00

05:33:36 No cucks in Russia.

05:33:37 No. 0.98

05:33:37 Russian men are pretty masculine, right? 0.94

05:33:40 No? 0.86

05:33:40 No.

05:33:41 I have dated a few, yeah. 0.99

05:33:43 You've dated some cucks.

05:33:44 I'm sorry, I have dated a few.

05:33:45 I haven't.

05:33:46 Did you partake?

05:33:47 No, I did not.

05:33:48 I did not.

05:33:48 Have you dated a cuck?

05:33:50 Mm-mm.

05:33:50 Have you let a man watch while? 0.51

05:33:53 No. 0.99

05:33:54 But you have.

05:33:55 Yeah.

05:33:56 Was his thing small?

05:33:57 No.

05:33:57 That was his problem.

05:33:59 And they want to see, yeah.

05:34:02 He was big?

05:34:03 He was more than I ever needed.

05:34:06 So it wasn't because she's saying it's because of the small. 0.97

05:34:09 No, it was because he was a cuck. 0.81

05:34:12 I did ask him once if he was, and even today, he cannot, well, I don't know what he does, but he cannot be faithful to a woman. 0.98

05:34:21 I need a cuck queen.

05:34:23 What? 1.00

05:34:24 I'll watch.

05:34:25 I'll sit and watch for you.

05:34:26 I've done that.

05:34:27 I'll sit in the corner and watch.

05:34:29 Go ahead.

05:34:29 There's a lot of them.

05:34:30 You want to watch?

05:34:31 Come on, man.

05:34:32 I'll be the cheerleader.

05:34:32 I'm your advisor.

05:34:33 Let's go. 1.00

05:34:35 Yeah, no, I need a cuck queen. 1.00

05:34:38 So I need to date a girl who lets me cuck her. 1.00

05:34:42 Yeah, just give me a good allowance, and I'll sit in the corner, and I'll watch and cheer you guys on. 0.93

05:34:47 I saw this thing on Reddit.

05:34:50 Oh, God.

05:34:51 Tell me if this would at all be appealing to any of you.

05:34:55 All right.

05:34:55 So you're laying on a bed, and then it could be the position, whatever. 0.99

05:35:02 and then another woman

05:35:04 is laid on top of you 1.00

05:35:06 and

05:35:08 already no

05:35:10 it just sounds claustrophobic 1.00

05:35:12 the woman on top gets fucked 1.00

05:35:15 so every thrust is not 1.00

05:35:16 you feel the thrust but you don't get

05:35:18 I'll be the voyeur

05:35:19 that's handmaid tale style

05:35:21 I'll just be the voyeur 0.99

05:35:23 I don't want to do shit anymore 0.98

05:35:25 but watch and cheer 0.98

05:35:27 I've never participated in

05:35:30 I'm not breaking my celibacy

05:35:32 It's been so long.

05:35:34 Okay.

05:35:35 But my confusion is, okay, we were talking about body count, and we'll go around.

05:35:39 Hold on.

05:35:39 Let's do the body count, and then we'll come back to your thing. 0.99

05:35:43 Body count? 0.63

05:35:44 Nine.

05:35:45 Nine.

05:35:45 Nine?

05:35:46 Wait, say it again.

05:35:47 Say it again.

05:35:49 What, you want to say something?

05:35:50 No.

05:35:51 No, no.

05:35:51 It's just the camera wasn't.

05:35:53 No, I'm not going to push that button.

05:35:54 No, I'm not going to push that button on me.

05:35:56 Just say it.

05:35:56 Say nine.

05:35:57 No.

05:35:58 Okay, next.

05:35:59 I'll say maybe 20.

05:36:01 Maybe 20.

05:36:02 Okay.

05:36:02 Five. 0.99

05:36:03 Heather? 1.00

05:36:04 Three.

05:36:05 Why would you go lower?

05:36:07 So wait, your first lie was, okay, all right.

05:36:12 Less than two.

05:36:13 Less than two.

05:36:14 I'm not going to say.

05:36:15 Give us a range.

05:36:17 No, I already told you I'm not a virgin, but I'm not going to say.

05:36:19 Alexis Gertrude.

05:36:21 There's no Alexis. 1.00

05:36:23 MacGyver or whatever the fuck Irish people are. 1.00

05:36:26 MacMillan. 1.00

05:36:28 Alexis.

05:36:29 There's no Alexis.

05:36:31 It's just Alex.

05:36:32 okay alexandra alexandra alexandra um what's like a typical what are the what's the the irish

05:36:42 girl mcconnelly mc no not last name like girl just girl in the first name like moira or something

05:36:50 ridiculous oh yeah yeah wait wait there's a wait wait i gotta google this otherwise it's gonna

05:36:55 bother me irish first girl name it's um oifee soy soy say searsha searsha yeah like searsha

05:37:07 ronan wait there's another one though uh talula no i don't think so i don't know um

05:37:17 there's another one that whatever okay uh well you can call me any name i'm not gonna tell you

05:37:24 give us a range more than 10 more than one 10 to 20 i'm not going to give you a range i'm not 0.98

05:37:31 having that live on the internet sorry okay blowjob count oh my god absolutely not 0.99

05:37:35 all right sorry uh what's your count i'm a virgin 0.99

05:37:40 yeah yeah yeah i'm a i believe it you act like a virgin i act like a virgin yeah i have virgin aura

05:37:51 yeah let's go that sounds nice let's go the compliment um yeah maybe i'll lose it tonight

05:37:59 who knows i'll be in the corner cheering you on go go go all right yeah

05:38:04 okay going back to you yeah you okay you um you said prior to your marriage your body count was

05:38:13 like four or something like that no i think or seven about seven okay seven and then you put

05:38:19 You put up some bodies during the marriage, but the marriage was on the ropes, not in good shape.

05:38:24 Never was.

05:38:25 And that never was.

05:38:26 And then, but my confusion is you said your body count is like 45, 50.

05:38:31 You put most of those bodies up between the marriage, but you met your current husband while you were still with your ex-husband.

05:38:42 Cause you went on a date with your ex-husband.

05:38:45 you met your now husband while on a date with your ex-husband what what happened there well let's see

05:38:55 i'm trying to think me too well it was the early it was the late 90s number one i was 0.94

05:39:05 21 in 1999 shit and i was only a feminist from 19 to 21 i was hardcore feminist for about three 0.88

05:39:14 years and that's britney spears popping off backstreet boys popping off i understand there's 0.96

05:39:19 a lot of temptation a lot of temptation in the late 90s yeah backstreet boys

05:39:24 in sync that was the puka shell necklace the frosted tips i understand the men back

05:39:31 then with the frosted tips it's very hard to resist very hard to resist the men in the late

05:39:37 90s i understand yes yes how many of them had frosted tips oh i didn't really do that kind

05:39:43 No, I liked it.

05:39:44 I liked the band guys.

05:39:47 No, I liked drummers and guitarists.

05:39:51 They didn't have to play rock music, but my ex-husband learned how to play the guitar

05:39:56 because he was the only one that had never played.

05:39:59 Of course.

05:40:01 It was one of those eras for me.

05:40:04 They did a lot of band dudes.

05:40:08 That was a good time.

05:40:10 It was.

05:40:12 They just don't have the same draw now.

05:40:14 Rock is kind of dead, I feel like.

05:40:16 It is.

05:40:18 Kind of dead.

05:40:19 Kind of dead.

05:40:20 You know, Heather, because you sort of dated a rock star.

05:40:24 Yeah.

05:40:25 Honestly, I feel like 80s to early 2000s, peak civilization.

05:40:32 Peak everything.

05:40:33 Peak civilization.

05:40:36 Decadent.

05:40:36 The music was better.

05:40:38 um there wasn't like social there wasn't social media barely a cell phone barely cell phones

05:40:44 pager just like peak civilization yeah yes and now

05:40:50 here we are here we are here we are i feel like i'm partially blamed for that i feel like our

05:40:59 generation is partially to blame for what these guys are dating today i don't think so i'm just

05:41:05 because we grew up in the third

05:41:06 well we are the third wave 1.00

05:41:09 of feminism we were the girl

05:41:11 power I am woman hear me 1.00

05:41:13 roar that was our

05:41:15 generation that was the 90s

05:41:17 that was the early 2000s 0.99

05:41:19 well you guys are just didn't give a shit 0.98

05:41:21 we were just like let's party 0.99

05:41:23 let's go full force 0.80

05:41:25 we just didn't give a damn

05:41:26 honestly I'm gonna take the L

05:41:29 on this I don't place

05:41:31 any blame on Gen X

05:41:33 I do

05:41:34 I feel like we were having babies 0.95

05:41:36 I'm millennial we fucked everything up 0.94

05:41:38 you think are you really taking credit for that 0.82

05:41:40 I think I'm not

05:41:42 you think it's your generation though 0.98

05:41:44 I think my generation fucked everything up 0.97

05:41:46 I feel like we gave too much 0.91

05:41:48 we were the originators

05:41:50 of woke

05:41:51 my generation originators of woke

05:41:54 of all this 0.99

05:41:56 like triggered bullshit 1.00

05:41:58 it's 1.00

05:42:00 liberal 1.00

05:42:01 uh millennial liberal women who have done severe damage so you're saying you would not date a 1.00

05:42:10 liberal woman is that what you're saying her labia if she had a long one to her knees um i would try 0.95

05:42:16 to fix her i would try to change her if she had a big labia but um it's not my preference to date 0.95

05:42:23 like a feminist or a liberal woman you know so yeah somebody in the chat i'm same age as brian 0.99

05:42:32 and brian is so wrong brian is wrong hey maybe i am i'm just talking out of my ass a little bit 0.99

05:42:39 here um the gen xers are the mothers of these kids well shit but then yeah gen if gen x is the 0.99

05:42:47 parents of zoomers are the zoomers bad i don't know kind of the younger they get the more retarded 0.98

05:42:56 things are i don't know just well and i don't mean i i say that generally speaking there's 0.94

05:43:03 obviously young people who are super sharp and whatever but i think that uh

05:43:08 they just they don't got no respect these younger kids got no respect there's like a lot of a lot

05:43:16 of entitlement too you know it's just a lot of that's something we weren't necessarily no

05:43:21 we were not we were like had to be also like we had kind of standards too with our parents on 0.61

05:43:29 what we get our ass whooped there you go yeah and if you have not been whooped in a cycle a lot of 0.93

05:43:35 times in society i can just point you out now you can call the cops on your parents and they whoop 0.99

05:43:40 Really?

05:43:41 Yeah.

05:43:42 Oh, they say that now in Arizona.

05:43:45 They can.

05:43:45 That's why they can't.

05:43:46 But I handed my son the phone.

05:43:48 Right.

05:43:48 You just call their bluff one time.

05:43:50 Tell them that you'll call them first, and they have to get to the house.

05:43:54 True. 0.53

05:43:55 Yeah.

05:43:56 I turned that phone around real quick. 0.99

05:43:58 Offer them to call social services so they take them away.

05:44:02 I know what social services is.

05:44:04 I'm a mandated court reporter.

05:44:06 That's what I do.

05:44:07 I made a joke.

05:44:08 I just thought that if your kids

05:44:10 Y'all don't like it 1.00

05:44:13 Her jokes suck 1.00

05:44:14 She's not funny 1.00

05:44:16 Is it because she's wearing a cross? 1.00

05:44:18 Ever since she tried to come for you 0.66

05:44:19 No

05:44:20 If your children

05:44:23 If your children call police on you

05:44:26 You just tell them that you're going to call

05:44:28 Social services and social services

05:44:30 Will come and take them away

05:44:32 So that was basically the joke

05:44:35 And that's almost abuse

05:44:38 I'm sorry 0.92

05:44:39 I'd rather pop his rear than be like

05:44:41 I'm going to call an authority on you

05:44:44 Of course you're not going to

05:44:45 No, I'm not

05:44:47 Brian, I have a question for you

05:44:49 Yeah, I'm ready

05:44:52 Okay, so

05:44:53 If

05:44:56 Well, I'm going to

05:44:58 Do both of these things

05:44:59 But I want your opinion

05:45:02 Okay, I'm ready

05:45:03 Okay, so 1.00

05:45:04 I'm going to get my boobs taken out 0.98

05:45:07 they're almost you have fake clearly so it's you don't well yeah but regardless so okay you're 0.97

05:45:14 getting the yeah yeah they're almost 25 years old they've out they've outlived the doctor so

05:45:18 but anyways yeah so i've got some pain whatever so i'm gonna take them out but i'm want to auction

05:45:23 them off on ebay so is that considered like a bad thing excuse me um are you asking if it's sex work

05:45:34 yes i don't think it's not right it's just it's not sex work well hold on let me think about this

05:45:40 it's not it's like hold on wait wait wait wait it's yeah because he doesn't want to answer

05:45:45 yeah but hold on incorrectly no well i okay i'm thinking about think on that i gave you like a

05:45:53 knee-jerk reaction but do the women who sell bath water is that a form of sex work and i would say 0.54

05:46:01 yes so oh is there a market for that there is oh thanks for the idea my bath water well i just 0.63

05:46:08 started to i haven't done i haven't done much on it but i started a foot page called rock of toes

05:46:12 so brian i'm gonna want me to write your name i'm gonna see how that works too as now if that's

05:46:17 even you actually want to sell them on ebay is that no i don't even know on ebay but wherever

05:46:22 medical waste i don't know if that's even no it's saline it's salt water i guess there's salt water

05:46:28 right that's kind of like gross though there are fetishes out there for it and like that's inside

05:46:36 you internally and like a way that's like so is uh some people like pee and toenails it's a whole

05:46:43 thing it's a whole thing so would you would you be okay with like if your partner would do that

05:46:50 or is that like frowned upon yeah if you could get say 20 30 50 grand whatever it is so

05:46:57 you're not going to get that much for your from iraq that's been on tv on multiple shows

05:47:05 i don't think you know what do you think you might get a couple hundred bucks what you're

05:47:10 crazy nobody's paying i mean hey good for you if you prove me wrong let's prove them wrong you guys

05:47:16 think anyone's gonna pay more than a thousand for fake for plastic saline bags that were inside of

05:47:26 you you'll be surprised yes let's see well we'll keep in touch and like we'll you know

05:47:32 if i'm wrong i'm wrong then you know that's fine we'll see but so back to the question is that like 0.99

05:47:39 in your category of awful work for women well first off i don't i i don't typically like women

05:47:46 who have plastic surgery it's not a hundred percent it depends what and it's not a hundred

05:47:51 percent a deal breaker so like it's unlikely that i would date a woman who even has implants to

05:47:59 begin with but if i did i certainly wouldn't want her to sell them on ebay okay yeah oh well luckily

05:48:07 i'm single i can do whatever well yeah you're not taking me so do whatever you want i guess

05:48:10 i just was curious your opinion you know because your opinion yeah i would not feel comfortable

05:48:15 with my girlfriend or wife

05:48:18 selling her 1.00

05:48:19 fake titties. 0.99

05:48:22 What about just riding 0.99

05:48:23 on the toes?

05:48:25 What do you mean riding

05:48:28 on the toes? So people will pay to get their

05:48:29 like, alright, beat Brian

05:48:31 on my toes.

05:48:33 Do you sell this? Well, I'm launching a foot

05:48:36 page called Rock of Toes.

05:48:37 That's a thing, man. Yeah. I stomp some

05:48:39 cake just for fun. 0.96

05:48:41 Oh, that's definitely sex work.

05:48:43 No, it's not. It's my feet.

05:48:45 hold on but if men do it i have multiple college degrees i have multiple licenses

05:48:50 i do you know i'm an entrepreneur so it's not like it's not sex work no it's not it's

05:48:58 i'm celibate there's no sex going on in my life by choice uh it's yeah that's um it's

05:49:06 controversial uh hobby i would say you're bored with it no i'm just sorry i mean you didn't sleep

05:49:14 so well tonight um okay uh yeah don't do it though don't do what i'm looking out for you

05:49:20 heather sell my you're a real estate agent heather excuse me if i'm gonna try to hire someone to be

05:49:26 my real estate agent she can't be doing foot pics have you seen the shows i've done over the past

05:49:32 20 years rock of love first off that's different it's not people still look at it i still you know

05:49:40 don't get all the clients i want because of that that's you first life that's you first off like

05:49:46 that was so long ago um but people still think it's like today because it's still streaming 1.00

05:49:53 that's like reality tv that's not sex work but there was tits and ass all over the place right 0.99

05:50:00 so sex work though being on a really uh a funny dating reality tv show with brett michaels 0.99

05:50:07 lead singer of poison that's not sex work um you could say you could say i would i wouldn't even

05:50:15 necessarily say this um or maybe i would i don't know some people might say it's bad taste but it's 0.88

05:50:22 not sex work doing the feet foot thing that's like you're on the line of sex work it's sex work

05:50:31 we'll just say it's sex don't do it heather i'm looking out for you you can't be look but yeah

05:50:36 As far as your current job as a real estate agent, it's one thing, okay, 20 years ago, I was on a reality TV show on a major TV channel, VH1.

05:50:48 That's one thing.

05:50:50 Actively selling feet pics currently while you're engaged as a real estate agent, absolutely not, Heather.

05:50:58 You shouldn't do it.

05:50:59 I'm looking out for you.

05:51:01 Just sell your... 1.00

05:51:03 Boobs. 1.00

05:51:04 No, sell your houses. 1.00

05:51:06 sell your houses why can't i sell houses boobs and feet pics because heather what do you guys 1.00

05:51:12 think say in the comments what do people think you're a nice woman thank you i i see you're worth 0.87

05:51:19 more than that heather and i don't want you i don't want you doing that okay and as your father

05:51:27 i you're going to be disinherited okay so knock it off and you know what how about 0.56

05:51:36 Stand up and face the wall

05:51:38 And think about what you've done

05:51:39 No, I'm dead serious

05:51:41 No, I'm too hot, I'm like sticky

05:51:43 Right, you need a break from the chair

05:51:45 Stand up, face the wall

05:51:47 Heather

05:51:48 Face the wall and think about what you've done 1.00

05:51:51 No, your people don't want to see my flat ass 1.00

05:51:52 Fair enough 1.00

05:51:55 I don't have a butt, I don't 0.95

05:51:57 We're going to blast through the notes 0.87

05:51:59 I think we'll probably be one of the

05:52:01 Earlier shows

05:52:02 Let's see, we have 0.98

05:52:05 i i had a note to discuss the sydney sweeney thing oh here's the question who wait fuck i 1.00

05:52:14 want to make sure i say it right who do you think is worse for women sydney sweeney or lindsey clancy 0.97

05:52:22 okay i don't know much about the lindsey clancy case um worse for women i mean i want to say

05:52:32 sydney sweeney just because she just gives into the objectification of herself i guess but what

05:52:39 okay i'll come back but no no because i i don't know anything about the other case so if she is

05:52:44 mentally ill then i can't say she's i don't know well hold on so she killed three kids yeah but

05:52:49 how does that represent women how that's just her situation well it's also sydney sweeney's 1.00

05:52:56 situation that she's doing some somewhat provocative advertisements she's wanting to

05:53:03 convince people that this is like a way to she's not wanting she's not wanting to convince people 0.75

05:53:08 anything about women she's just a woman who's done some provocative advertisements yeah because 0.99

05:53:16 then girls look at that and think that that's the standard of how they should look and how 1.00

05:53:19 they should act but okay men then think that's what they should have but lindsey clancy murdered

05:53:25 three her her kids her three kids right but i don't think she's that's just like a random i 0.96

05:53:34 feel like it's such a random comparison i think sydney sweeney is worse for women 0.99

05:53:38 because what what's the other one okay wait wait sydney sweeney is worse for women than lindsey 1.00

05:53:48 clancy yeah because no normal woman thinks that that's a normal thing to do to kill your children 1.00

05:53:53 like younger girls could definitely be influenced by sydney sweeney in a much more social way 1.00

05:53:59 to become more and more like that nobody's sitting around thinking that there's vast 1.00

05:54:05 millions of women who are doing varying degrees of um downplaying downplaying of what lindsey 0.98

05:54:16 clancy has done some believe she didn't even do it total exoneration she's innocent she didn't do

05:54:23 it they want to blame uh the innocent victim patrick clancy well the primary victims of course

05:54:29 being the children uh other women are saying well we do acknowledge that she did it although

05:54:35 maintaining some level of doubt as to if she actually did it but it's okay i empathize with her

05:54:45 i gotta be honest lindsey clancy has done more damage arguably than sydney sweeney little ad

05:54:56 why but the lindsey clancy has not done anything to influence women

05:55:02 she hasn't like perhaps not well i would argue sydney sweeney is not intentionally doing 0.94

05:55:10 She's doing the ads to make money 0.96

05:55:13 She's not doing it for some greater 1.00

05:55:15 Propaganda purposes 1.00

05:55:17 She just wants to make a fuck down the money 1.00

05:55:19 For attention and fame and everything 1.00

05:55:21 And all of that right 0.98

05:55:22 Lindsay Clancy murked her three kids 0.82

05:55:25 And so

05:55:27 Just think it's a bizarre

05:55:30 It's bizarre

05:55:31 Selection

05:55:32 Alright well Ireland is

05:55:34 You think Ireland's bizarre

05:55:36 So you should talk to a therapist

05:55:39 Russia thinks Lindsay Clancy. 0.60

05:55:42 Lindsay Clancy worse.

05:55:43 Okay, what do you think?

05:55:44 Who the hell is the Sydney Sweeney? 1.00

05:55:46 Sydney Sweeney is a, I think she's a popular actress who has giant knockers. 0.97

05:55:54 I mean, I wouldn't say giant. 1.00

05:55:56 She's got big tits. 1.00

05:55:58 And she's, I don't even. 1.00

05:56:01 How old is she?

05:56:03 Is she a singer?

05:56:04 I think she's around 30, I think. 0.54

05:56:05 She's like 20.

05:56:06 Either late 20s or early 30s.

05:56:08 She's like 26 or 27.

05:56:08 And what's her occupation?

05:56:10 She was in Euphoria.

05:56:11 What's that?

05:56:11 It's a TV show.

05:56:12 Oh, okay.

05:56:13 So she's an actress. 1.00

05:56:14 And she actually has multiple times triggered people for, she did an interview, gave an answer that people didn't like. 0.99

05:56:25 She was in a jeans commercial.

05:56:29 That was maybe the first triggering of many.

05:56:33 and now she was in some sports betting commercial where she's close to naked and that's it that's

05:56:41 the controversy she was dressed to revealing or i feel like this is the most revealing time in 0.99

05:56:49 history right true you know but um so in the other chick but she killed her children yeah how like 1.00

05:56:58 did she just snap and then? Strangle them. 1.00

05:57:00 She strangled them? Yep. 1.00

05:57:02 Oh, that's terrible. Choked them to death. Yeah, no. 0.94

05:57:04 Fuck that bitch. Which one's worse? 1.00

05:57:06 Sidney Sweeney or Lindsay Clancy?

05:57:08 Lindsay. For women. 1.00

05:57:10 Yeah. Or in general. Lindsay Clancy. 0.96

05:57:12 Lindsay Clancy. Which one's worse?

05:57:14 Clancy. Clancy? Clancy.

05:57:16 Coming back to you. Yeah. Now, so

05:57:18 here, let me change it. Instead of

05:57:20 like saying who's worse for 0.80

05:57:22 women, let's just say who's 1.00

05:57:24 just worse. Okay, of course, the 1.00

05:57:26 woman who killed her children okay so you're saying as like an influence for women well yes

05:57:30 no one's taking real influence from the murderer lady hold on the lindsey clancy case has awoken 0.97

05:57:38 levels of retardation in women we have not seen we agree in 0.98

05:57:46 this is what the lindsey clancy thing is the most black pulling thing 0.99

05:57:51 i've honestly seen in my lifetime um i think lindsey clancy well okay there's women who are 1.00

05:58:00 going on the war path for her who are showing up to well when the trial was occurring showing up 0.60

05:58:06 to the courthouse doing heart emojis as she drives by like the idea i i understand i'm not gonna

05:58:14 to be totally misunderstanding what they're trying to do. Some of these women are saying, 1.00

05:58:22 hey, there's a mental health component to this. And she was taking these drugs. So there's a 1.00

05:58:28 big pharma component. And she had postpartum. And we should have some consideration for that. 0.99

05:58:37 But it's like, look, I think we can have a discussion of the impact of big pharma,

05:58:42 the over-prescription of certain medications, women who have postpartum depression, postpartum psychosis, but also be like, I support women who have those things, or rather, I understand the struggle of going through those things,

05:59:04 But to attach a sort of baseline level of support for Lindsay Clancy is actually insane, regardless of where you stand on those other topics.

05:59:15 It's like this woman killed her three kids.

05:59:19 So it's just random people that are out.

05:59:22 It's not her family.

05:59:23 It's random people that are outside just like giving her heart.

05:59:26 Have you seen the videos on Instagram? 1.00

05:59:28 There's women 1.00

05:59:30 Throwing their kids like pretending like 1.00

05:59:32 They would throw their kid into a wood chipper

05:59:34 And do like weird stuff 0.67

05:59:36 Oh my god

05:59:37 Same Lindsay they'll be holding their real babies

05:59:41 Oh my god give me the chills that's insane 0.71

05:59:42 So that's what's going on

05:59:44 It's like a mass psychosis

05:59:46 There's a bunch of videos like that I saw a video of a woman 0.96

05:59:48 Who like with a cup of water 1.00

05:59:50 Would like

05:59:51 Throw the water on the kid

05:59:54 I mean it's not really

05:59:55 It's not causing any actual physical harm

05:59:57 but this is like the thought process to even to do it yeah yeah no it's obvious just to be clear

06:00:02 it's wrong to do that right that's crazy they're they're like oh it's not a big deal it's like how

06:00:09 i release my aggression towards my child that's what they're saying and it's like whoa like that's 0.53

06:00:17 or i there's an there's this other trend where i got some pushback on this but women who would 1.00

06:00:23 take ice into their bathroom and like really aggressively throw the ice and on one hand okay 1.00

06:00:31 you're not causing any damage to anything or whatever but i'm like what's the point that's

06:00:38 a little like taking out their aggression on the ice and they're going into their bathrooms now

06:00:43 they have enough sense to set the camera up and make sure they're throwing the ice in the bathtub 0.99

06:00:48 to show how angry and unhinged they are with their babies.

06:00:54 And you have babies.

06:00:56 And the babies are in the bathtub?

06:00:58 No, the babies don't even have to be around. 1.00

06:01:00 They're just in their bathrooms acting crazy. 1.00

06:01:03 Wow.

06:01:04 Just acting out.

06:01:06 That's all separate. 0.98

06:01:07 The primary thing here is you have women who are going on the defense

06:01:10 who support this woman who murdered her three kids.

06:01:14 And it blows my mind.

06:01:18 okay well i did not know all that kind of influence was happening i've not been following

06:01:22 this case nor do i see these things on social media but in the case where it's having this

06:01:26 sort of influence um yeah then i would think that this case is worse for women fair enough 0.98

06:01:33 okay but i just thought that it was more about i thought there was maybe more of a mental health

06:01:37 component to it that's maybe just one of these situations where you know i i have no idea maybe 0.84

06:01:42 she just went totally off the wall and killed her children and that it's more of a mental health 0.99

06:01:45 issues so i didn't know why that would be bad for women but if it's having this this effect then you

06:01:49 uh yeah for sure it's a show i love that for you alex thanks all right guys like the video if you're

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06:02:20 And then what is the other thing that I needed to say?

06:02:23 Oh, if there's anybody watching who has a contact at Twitch, I'm looking for someone who has a contact at Twitch,

06:02:30 someone who's got a contact at TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram, Meta.

06:02:37 Let me know because I'm trying to get a few account things sorted.

06:02:41 Let me see.

06:02:42 Are there any admins watching on Twitch?

06:02:44 Let me check.

06:02:45 Let me check.

06:02:47 Hold on.

06:02:49 One sec, guys.

06:02:50 One sec.

06:02:54 Okay.

06:02:56 How do I check?

06:02:57 Oh, yeah.

06:02:57 I'm going to check.

06:03:00 No.

06:03:00 No admins.

06:03:02 Okay.

06:03:02 Just mods.

06:03:03 Okay.

06:03:03 We got Kaibaka.

06:03:05 Yo, Kaibaka.

06:03:06 What's up?

06:03:08 VIP.

06:03:10 Where are you at?

06:03:11 where you been at Kaibaka

06:03:12 she's probably watching

06:03:15 Payo 0.89

06:03:15 giving all her subs to Payo 0.98

06:03:18 that's fucked up Kaibaka 1.00

06:03:19 whatever forever 0.99

06:03:22 not World of Warcraft forever

06:03:23 alright and then let me see

06:03:26 on a scale of 0 to 10

06:03:28 rate your own looks 1.00

06:03:30 and I'll go first

06:03:31 I won't go first but

06:03:33 I want you to

06:03:35 say face

06:03:38 and body so give me a face rating

06:03:40 and give yourself a face rating and body rating.

06:03:44 So on a scale of 0 to 10, rate your own looks, starting with you.

06:03:47 10, 10, you know what I was going to say.

06:03:48 Into the mic.

06:03:49 10, 10.

06:03:51 Say face 10, body 10.

06:03:53 Face 10, body 10.

06:03:54 One more time.

06:03:55 Face 1,000, body 1,000. 0.97

06:03:57 Say face 10.

06:03:58 Face 10, body 10.

06:04:00 Okay.

06:04:01 Now going to you.

06:04:02 I would say face 8, body 8.

06:04:05 Okay.

06:04:07 Face 4, body 4.

06:04:09 Okay.

06:04:09 What about you?

06:04:09 Face five, body five.

06:04:11 Okay.

06:04:12 Since I'm old.

06:04:12 Next, you.

06:04:15 Face eight, body eights.

06:04:19 My face is four and my body is a four.

06:04:22 Okay, I give myself a 4.5 face, 4.5 body.

06:04:26 I don't think that's a fair assessment because we can't see your face. 0.97

06:04:29 Let me shave your face on this pocket. 0.99

06:04:31 Please, please, let me shave your face. 0.98

06:04:34 So you're saying it would go lower or higher?

06:04:36 Higher.

06:04:37 If I shave?

06:04:38 Yes.

06:04:38 You don't like beards?

06:04:39 is what you know well i do like a george michael chenstrap but i'm saying that it's more youthful

06:04:45 like if you did if you shave just try it try it let me shave just let me shave let me shave it

06:04:52 for you i'm okay right on here right on here come on it'd be so fun who here shaves down below though

06:05:02 wax okay good talk um okay wait so uh 10 8 8

06:05:14 okay so a couple questions let's start with the 10 uh can you tell me as the do you you're the 10

06:05:25 do you think you're the most attractive woman at the table yes and i feel like everybody should

06:05:32 think that they're the most attractive woman at the table you're shaking her head do you agree

06:05:36 with her yeah i agree but you gave yourself an eight sure but i i like the idea that we all think

06:05:42 we have our own thing going on and that it's all different and everybody's their own idea

06:05:47 but how can but well i was just reading are there women who are nines out there

06:05:52 sure are there women who are tens yeah so how can you think you're the most attractive woman

06:05:57 if you give yourself an eight i just more mean like that i'm happy with myself

06:06:00 I suppose that's different

06:06:02 So you're the most attractive woman here

06:06:04 Yes

06:06:06 Are you the most beautiful woman here

06:06:08 Yes 0.53

06:06:08 Are you the hottest woman here 1.00

06:06:10 Are you the sexiest woman here 1.00

06:06:11 Do you have the biggest badonk here 1.00

06:06:17 I don't know what a badonk is

06:06:18 Badonkadonk

06:06:19 I don't know what that is

06:06:21 Cake

06:06:22 You don't know what badonkadonk is 0.87

06:06:26 No is that like some white slang 0.83

06:06:27 Are you messing with me 0.82

06:06:28 Is that something white people are saying? 0.97

06:06:29 Are you? 0.99

06:06:30 Girl, don't play with me.

06:06:35 But, okay. 1.00

06:06:38 Tell me a woman who's a 10, like a celebrity that we could Google. 1.00

06:06:43 Closer to the mic. 1.00

06:06:45 Closer to the mic.

06:06:47 Tell us.

06:06:49 Yeah.

06:06:50 Okay.

06:06:53 This is all opinion.

06:06:55 I'm going to just say my friend, Janice Hart.

06:06:58 She's a 10 out of 10. 0.95

06:07:00 Is she a celebrity? 1.00

06:07:02 She's got a two plus million on every platform. 1.00

06:07:06 She's got a fan base.

06:07:08 Well, I would say, okay, somebody that y'all know.

06:07:11 Is Beyonce a 10?

06:07:13 She's a 10. 1.00

06:07:14 That's a bad bitch. 1.00

06:07:15 Is Rihanna a 10? 1.00

06:07:16 Yes, she's a Pisces too, just like me. 1.00

06:07:19 Rihanna's a bad bitch. 1.00

06:07:20 10 out of 10. 1.00

06:07:25 Mary J. Blige, 10 out of 10.

06:07:28 uh okay and so beyonce 10 what about stacy dash you know stacy dash when she was young yeah

06:07:36 beautiful yeah play it on clueless clueless yeah yeah 10 no stacy dash not a 10 she thinks she's

06:07:45 a white woman she's delusional okay well setting aside her thinking she's a white woman is she a 1.00

06:07:50 10 no because she's she's starting to do her makeup like pale like trying to be white and 0.99

06:07:55 it looks crazy that's not 10 out of 10 behavior so you you 10 stacy dash and clueless no 10 not 0.98

06:08:04 a 10 no 10 when she was in clueless yes 10 out of 10 okay but now she don't look like that no more

06:08:11 well yeah she's a bit older now she's not as he is do you she's not confident do you mog do you

06:08:19 mog young stacy dash so when are you more attractive than are you currently more attractive 0.99

06:08:26 than stacy dash when she was in clueless yes i i feel like i'm the baddest bitch alive do you hear 0.99

06:08:35 me baddest bitch alive baddest bitch alive 10 out of 10 that's just how my confidence is and i feel 0.98

06:08:41 like every woman should feel like that i don't compare myself to other women i recognize other 0.99

06:08:46 beautiful women, but I don't be like, oh,

06:08:48 I never looked at somebody and said, oh, she 1.00

06:08:50 bad. Halle Berry.

06:08:51 Ten out of ten. But are you a

06:08:54 badder bitch than Halle Berry? 1.00

06:08:57 No, because she's rich. 1.00

06:08:58 No, no, just looks, though. 1.00

06:09:00 Just looks. Yeah, I'm badder than Halle

06:09:02 because she bad too. You a badder bitch? I don't compare 1.00

06:09:04 myself to her. I'm the baddest

06:09:06 bitch in the world. Baddest bitch in the world? 1.00

06:09:08 Yes. Are you a badder bitch? 1.00

06:09:11 Are you badder 1.00

06:09:12 than Megan Fox?

06:09:14 I just wanted to hear you say bad. 1.00

06:09:16 bad bitch. 1.00

06:09:18 Who was Megan Fox? 1.00

06:09:19 She must be a white celebrity. 1.00

06:09:21 She is a white woman. 1.00

06:09:23 She was in 0.99

06:09:24 the Transformers movie?

06:09:28 Did she date

06:09:28 MGK? 0.95

06:09:32 MGK. 1.00

06:09:32 Yes, a bad bitch. 10 out of 10. 1.00

06:09:34 Are you better looking than Megan Fox? 0.97

06:09:37 Are you better looking than Megan Fox?

06:09:39 Yes.

06:09:40 Any woman you name,

06:09:42 I'm finer than her. 1.00

06:09:46 are you hotter than yes um hotter okay um are you hotter than every single victoria's secret model

06:09:58 that's ever lived yes are you hotter than every single a-list actress that's ever lived yes are

06:10:06 you hotter than michelle obama yes why did you say that a bit more enthusiastically because

06:10:14 What are you trying to say?

06:10:16 If you give a name, the answer's going to be yes every time.

06:10:20 Are you more attractive?

06:10:21 Hold on. 0.91

06:10:22 I'm just going to Google list of hottest women list name. 1.00

06:10:28 Are you hotter? 1.00

06:10:31 Are you hotter? 1.00

06:10:32 Give me a fucking list. 1.00

06:10:35 List. 1.00

06:10:37 Sorry. 1.00

06:10:37 AI is being a bitch. 1.00

06:10:40 Little bitch. 1.00

06:10:41 are you hotter than elizabeth hurley i don't i don't know who that is just say well it's gotta 1.00

06:10:49 be yes just say yes then it's gonna be if it's me and somebody else the answer is yes for me are you

06:10:55 hotter than anna de armas yes i don't know her though are you hotter than margot robbie yes are

06:11:04 Are you hotter than Angelina Jolie?

06:11:06 Yes. 0.53

06:11:07 Is she fine as hell? 1.00

06:11:08 Are you more attractive than Jessica Biel? 1.00

06:11:14 Yes. 0.97

06:11:15 Are you more attractive than Scarlett Johansson?

06:11:19 Yes.

06:11:19 Are you more attractive than Jessica Alba?

06:11:29 Oui.

06:11:29 By the way 0.98

06:11:31 Whoever's fucking gonna clip this 0.97

06:11:33 It's gonna be hilarious 0.99

06:11:35 Young versions 1.00

06:11:36 Like the young version of all these women 1.00

06:11:38 Just make sure y'all use a good picture of me 1.00

06:11:41 Because I'm tired

06:11:42 My makeup is expiring

06:11:44 Are you more attractive 0.97

06:11:46 Who's that Victoria's Secret model 1.00

06:11:48 Brooke Snader 1.00

06:11:49 Are you more attractive than Adriana Lima 1.00

06:11:52 I don't know who that is but yes 1.00

06:11:54 Just show a fucking picture 0.99

06:11:58 Okay, pretend we just show the picture. 1.00

06:11:59 Are you more attractive than her?

06:12:00 Yep. 1.00

06:12:01 Shit. 1.00

06:12:03 Brian. 1.00

06:12:04 Hey, my Caucasian.

06:12:06 Do you see that?

06:12:06 Lexi or whatever.

06:12:08 Thank you, Lexi. 1.00

06:12:10 Are you more attractive than Giselle Bündchen or whatever the fuck her name is? 1.00

06:12:17 What was that? 1.00

06:12:18 I don't know. 1.00

06:12:18 A supermodel. 0.98

06:12:19 Are you more attractive than Lucy Liu?

06:12:22 Yes.

06:12:23 Are you more attractive than Cameron Diaz?

06:12:26 Yes.

06:12:27 Are you more attractive than Brooke Shields? 0.53

06:12:31 Yes.

06:12:32 Are you more attractive?

06:12:34 Chat, give me names. 0.77

06:12:35 Give me more names.

06:12:36 Chat, chat, chat.

06:12:37 Just blast names I can read. 1.00

06:12:39 Just Tyra Banks. 1.00

06:12:41 Are you more attractive than Tyra Banks? 1.00

06:12:43 Yes.

06:12:44 Are you more attractive than Sidney Sweeney?

06:12:47 Yes. 1.00

06:12:48 Who the fuck said Maxine Waters? 1.00

06:12:50 What the fuck? 1.00

06:12:50 uh are you more attractive than elliot page you fuckers uh uh i don't know any of these 1.00

06:13:00 are you more attractive than natalie portman yes are you more attractive than jennifer lopez 0.99

06:13:05 yes are you more attractive than uh who or lizzo hell yeah i'll give you that one i guess

06:13:17 Actually, she lost some weight recently, so I don't know. 1.00

06:13:19 I thought you were trying to say the weight made her underachie.

06:13:20 No, I'm just trying to check in.

06:13:22 I got to check in on Lizzo.

06:13:23 I don't know where she's at. 0.99

06:13:24 Are you more attractive than Nancy Pelosi? 1.00

06:13:26 Fucking shat. 1.00

06:13:27 Are you more attractive than Anne Hathaway? 1.00

06:13:31 Yes. 0.97

06:13:31 Are you more attractive than Rosa Parks?

06:13:34 Yes. 1.00

06:13:35 Are you more attractive than Pamela Anderson?

06:13:37 Yes. 1.00

06:13:38 Who's a babe from the 80s that I can... 0.88

06:13:42 Oh, Carmen Electra. 1.00

06:13:44 Are you more attractive than Courtney Cox? 0.95

06:13:46 Yes. 0.99

06:13:46 Are you more attractive than Carmen Electra?

06:13:49 Yes. 1.00

06:13:49 Are you more attractive than Jennifer Aniston?

06:13:52 Yes, and when you clip this, can I send you the picture to use?

06:13:55 Sure.

06:13:56 Okay.

06:13:56 Sure, sure.

06:13:57 Are you more attractive than, okay, I don't know, I can't.

06:14:04 Brooke Snader.

06:14:06 I don't know who these people are. 0.86

06:14:07 Are you more attractive than Kim Kardashian?

06:14:10 Yes.

06:14:10 Are you more attractive than Kylie Jenner?

06:14:14 Yes. 0.98

06:14:15 Are you more attractive than Kendall Jenner?

06:14:17 Yes. 1.00

06:14:17 Are you more attractive than Hayley Bieber? 1.00

06:14:20 Yes, I can't stand her. 1.00

06:14:22 Oh, boy.

06:14:22 All right, that's all I got.

06:14:23 Okay, good.

06:14:24 Are you more attractive than Marilyn Monroe?

06:14:26 Yes.

06:14:29 Okay.

06:14:31 Cindy Crawford, the musician. 0.96

06:14:34 Or wait, right? 1.00

06:14:35 No, she's a supermodel. 1.00

06:14:36 She was a supermodel. 1.00

06:14:36 Oh, yeah. 1.00

06:14:37 Are you more attractive than Cindy Crawford? 0.99

06:14:39 Yes.

06:14:40 I was thinking of Celine Dion for some reason.

06:14:43 Yes. 0.99

06:14:44 I mean, she might have been all right back in the day, you know, shit. 0.99

06:14:49 I'll take that Titanic money. 1.00

06:14:53 Miranda, are you more attractive than Miranda Kerr? 0.98

06:14:57 Yes, I don't even know who that is. 0.74

06:14:58 Are you more attractive than, what's that, Alessandria?

06:15:01 You must not believe me or something.

06:15:02 Alessandria Ambrosio.

06:15:05 She's like Victoria's Secret.

06:15:05 Do you feel some type of way? 0.95

06:15:07 Are you more attractive than Selma Hayek? 0.91

06:15:10 Yes. 1.00

06:15:10 Are you more attractive than Candace Owens? 1.00

06:15:16 Are you more attractive than Donatella Versace?

06:15:21 Okay, well.

06:15:21 Yes.

06:15:26 Caitlyn Jenner, bro.

06:15:28 The chat is on fire.

06:15:30 The chat's on fire.

06:15:32 Are you more attractive than Shrek?

06:15:34 Nah.

06:15:36 Okay, all right.

06:15:37 It's fair.

06:15:38 Nobody beats Shrek.

06:15:39 Nope, Shrek is a league of his own.

06:15:42 All right.

06:15:44 Tell me a guy who's a 10.

06:15:46 Tell me a guy who's a 10.

06:15:47 My man.

06:15:48 Well, besides, like a celebrity, you know.

06:15:51 My man.

06:15:52 Michael B. Jordan.

06:15:54 Is he a 10?

06:15:56 Yeah.

06:15:58 I was, I guess.

06:15:59 Is Brad Pitt, when he was young, a 10?

06:16:01 Brad Pitt, yes.

06:16:02 He's still a 10, maybe?

06:16:04 He's still a good looking guy.

06:16:04 I don't know what he looks like.

06:16:05 You don't know how old Brad Pitt looks like?

06:16:07 Not right now. 1.00

06:16:08 He's probably old as shit. 1.00

06:16:09 He still has a swagger. 1.00

06:16:11 He's still a good looking guy.

06:16:13 If he's sober.

06:16:15 Nick Jonas.

06:16:17 A Jonas brother.

06:16:20 Yes.

06:16:26 Give me a rating.

06:16:27 Give me a looks rating.

06:16:30 Honestly,

06:16:32 I don't

06:16:34 like your personality

06:16:35 all that much.

06:16:36 Just looks. I get it.

06:16:37 You're actually a 10.

06:16:40 You're actually a 10.

06:16:43 You just should have put some sunburn on the other day because you're a little sunburn.

06:16:47 I'm going to need you to help me with what I'm about to say.

06:16:49 I'm going to say really, and you're going to say the N-word.

06:16:54 Ready?

06:16:54 Really? 0.96

06:16:55 Nigga. 0.92

06:16:56 You think I'm a 10?

06:16:57 Come on.

06:16:58 Come on.

06:17:00 You're not bad looking.

06:17:02 You think you think you're bad looking?

06:17:07 you look you look good until you start talking thank you

06:17:15 i appreciate that i appreciate that for my people wakanda forever um so uh

06:17:25 i don't know all right okay all right uh okay we got an eight uh eight we got the eight and

06:17:33 got the eight uh okay you're an eight give me a looks rating i'd say i don't know like a seven

06:17:41 or an eight you're handsome i'm going back to you well you gave me a 10 and so you're a 10 so

06:17:49 okay cool uh eight and you're tall so okay give me a looks rating maybe like a 5.5

06:17:55 five five point six maybe six and you're you're an eight but you wanted to give yourself higher

06:18:03 it sounded like why well you were saying that you should always you agreed with her uh you should

06:18:09 always view yourself as the most beautiful well i don't think you should always but i think it's

06:18:13 great when you do it's great why is it great when you do just good like you know self-empowerment

06:18:19 confidence all those things and nothing good really comes from thinking you're hideous does it

06:18:24 well i don't so okay i don't think you have to think you're hideous but i think you can be like

06:18:29 you know what i'm like average looking or i'm at a maybe a bit above average looking but i'm not 1.00

06:18:37 i'm not this attractive yeah but i think that's hard for women obviously so so women shouldn't 0.80

06:18:45 do hard things depends on how uh you know what they get out of it what like what's there to be 0.90

06:18:51 gained from knowing you're an average looking person versus thinking you're a great looking

06:18:55 person exhibit a so uh perhaps the predicament you find yourself in alex gertrude nick lovin

06:19:09 you view yourself as nate sure so that's going to inform your dating decisions you view yourself as

06:19:19 this level of attractiveness. So then therefore you would want to date a guy who you consider an

06:19:25 eight. Compounding this effect is the fact that women tend to overrate themselves and underrate 1.00

06:19:33 men. So it's not just like when you're looking at a guy who's an eight, you're actually like, 0.99

06:19:41 that tends to be beyond what we would potentially even consider an eight. That aside though,

06:19:48 um if you are not aware of where you land in the dating marketplace you're going to be holding out

06:20:00 for a certain caliber of guy who may just be chasing after you sexually but would never give

06:20:07 you commitment and i think this actually pans out for you because you say that of the men that you

06:20:14 like you probably reject a bunch of men you're not just going on a date with anybody the guy

06:20:19 has to you have to have some level of attraction for the guy maybe some alignment on other things

06:20:24 you said you've been on 100 dates in the past four years or not just 100 dates excuse me you've been

06:20:30 on dates with 100 different men in the past four years you said consistency with all of them was

06:20:38 the issue um do you have any guys in the friend zone like that i've dated and then we became

06:20:45 friends that that were more into you than you were into them and that that would have been

06:20:52 consistent for you but you're lacking of attraction for them yeah that happens often right the reality

06:21:01 is probably those guys that you are curving that you are friend zoning or you know whatever

06:21:06 those are the guys who would give you the consistency that you so desperately want

06:21:11 but because you assess yourself as this level of attractiveness

06:21:16 perhaps they may very well be in your league on your league but you're overlooking them because

06:21:24 you think you're this attractive so that's the damage it actually does to think that you're

06:21:29 i'm an eight but say i'm not gonna give you a rating yet anyways say a woman's a five but 1.00

06:21:35 she thinks she's an eight she should probably match up with the dude who's around a five

06:21:40 instead of holding out for the eight no no i understand but i mean

06:21:45 you know i'm just basing it off natural attraction i'm not really analyzing things that way

06:21:50 i'm not looking at some guy's profile and thinking oh jesus he's a seven i think i'm an eight

06:21:54 this can't happen well what okay what percentage of men do you on it because you almost exclusively

06:22:00 use hinge to meet all these men so what percentage of men are you swiping yes on on the dating app

06:22:06 what percentage out of what the ones that like me already so okay what person so in order to

06:22:15 do a match right uh you have to hit like so what percentage of men i know that there's a feature

06:22:23 where you can see who's already liked you or whatever and then you can see like the you don't

06:22:30 know if they've liked you or not yet or whatever. I don't know. Um, what percentage of men do you

06:22:35 hit like on? Okay. Well, I don't really browse through it. I just look at the likes that have

06:22:40 been sent to me. So, okay. So then of those, let's say if there's a hundred of those, let's

06:22:45 say I'll pay attention to maybe like five out of that. Five or like them back, whatever way you

06:22:51 want to mind you, this is, um, and I don't know if this would be different if you're just swiping

06:22:57 in the normal mode but you're picking from the men who already like you so you're rejecting

06:23:03 95 percent of the men who would date you right um and you're i assume you're doing this

06:23:15 a good amount based on looks um like what do i select them based on

06:23:23 It's primarily a physical attraction

06:23:26 Well, I mean, that's, I suppose, the most important thing to begin with

06:23:29 Because without that, what do you have?

06:23:31 Yeah, well, I think it's fine to care about physical attraction

06:23:34 But to a degree

06:23:35 Yeah, and then it also helps, I find, if they leave a nice comment of some sort

06:23:39 I mean, some of them are crazy and weird

06:23:42 Sure, well, some of them just say hi

06:23:44 I don't know if that does it for you

06:23:45 Or if they're attractive enough, you still give them the pass

06:23:48 I guess the issue here, though, is you ask me

06:23:51 hey, Brian, why does it matter if I rate myself an eight or I view myself in this way?

06:23:57 Well, like I said, we just did kind of a bit of a dive into you only view.

06:24:05 So, okay, you've passed four years, 100 different men that you've dated, probably more.

06:24:13 You only swipe yes.

06:24:16 it's not even swipe of the men who like you of the men who like you five out of a hundred

06:24:23 so you're very picky high standards particular but are you attractive enough to be as selective

06:24:32 as you are well the likes keep coming so i guess so but the relationship doesn't come i know but

06:24:38 that's okay then i'd rather be alone and happy with myself then lower my standards and be with

06:24:43 a mediocre man i mean did it ever occur to you that you're mediocre no i just don't think that

06:24:54 so in what ways are you not mediocre i think i think i have a lot to offer in every way

06:25:00 and like that i'm happy with them myself i think i'm good looking i think i very much want to like

06:25:06 be in a healthy relationship where you know i do contribute things and i want to look after a guy

06:25:11 if we're talking about relationships still and i think that you know i've lived in i've moved to

06:25:16 different country that builds character and i mean i could go on but obviously i like myself

06:25:22 therefore i don't think i'm mediocre i think if you think you're mediocre that's really sad well

06:25:29 i know i understand that you can think it objectively okay hold on if you think you're

06:25:36 exceptional, but you're just like objectively mediocre, does that make you exceptional just

06:25:41 by virtue of thinking? Well, I think people are exceptional in different ways. People are on

06:25:46 different wavelengths and respond to different things. So I think, you know, based on the life

06:25:51 I want to live, I like how it's going and who I am. Well, it begets the issue here is it begets

06:25:58 the following question. If you are as exceptional as you think you are, how could you possibly

06:26:05 have been on dated a hundred men in the past year and none of them picked you i'm not waiting

06:26:13 around for them to pick me you you said the issue is that they're not showing a level of consistency

06:26:21 if you were as exceptional as you suppose you are wouldn't they pick you um well the guys that

06:26:29 are inconsistent are already the ones that i like so and also i think like i know a lot of girls who

06:26:37 you know go ahead no i was gonna say like if i think of other girls i know around my age same

06:26:41 place on the apps all that sort of thing you know they have all the same problems like i've yet to 1.00

06:26:46 hear of a woman because they're because they all think they're eights and nines and tens and they 1.00

06:26:51 think they're way more better they think they're way more attractive not just looks but they think 0.78

06:26:55 that they they have better personalities than they actually do they think they're not that 0.91

06:26:59 men even fucking care they're funnier than they actually are they think that they better looking

06:27:04 than they actually are they think that they're offering more than they actually are and so 0.97

06:27:08 they're chasing after a higher tier higher caliber of man and those men have all the options and 1.00

06:27:15 they're like this girl's not on my league i'm settling for her i'll just fuck her once twice 0.99

06:27:21 three times and that's it right but I mean if you're talking about like exceptions or not or 0.99

06:27:28 whatever like Shakira and Shania Twain are two women who have famously been cheated on and they're

06:27:32 both extremely good-looking people who are talented who have won awards for their music etc so you

06:27:38 know if men will betray them in theory would they not betray anyone yeah but I could just say this 0.91

06:27:42 about like super rich wealthy high status men too brad pitt fucking divorced uh will smith

06:27:51 and look we don't know the details of their private lives and various arrangements some of 0.61

06:27:58 them have interesting stories so to speak but like there i i can give you a long list of like 0.98

06:28:05 these are the most attractive men in the world uh high status rich wealthy fame all of that shit 0.98

06:28:11 and they get divorced their girl their their wife leaves them they get cheated on whatever it is 0.99

06:28:18 so so well i suppose i'm just simply explaining to you i'm explaining to you that um i don't know

06:28:31 you're saying that all these women are so amazing and like women often say this all my girlfriends

06:28:38 they're so successful and attractive and they're amazing people and they just can't find a guy and

06:28:44 it's like are they really that great though yeah because all guys just want easy girls they want

06:28:50 like dolls until they want to have an interesting conversation then they want you to turn that part

06:28:54 of yourself on and that's just kind of what i find no no no but i think women when they assess

06:29:01 themselves and when they assess especially their female friends they want they they ponder why is 0.96

06:29:08 it my girlfriend she's so smart and successful and attractive oftentimes completely overselling

06:29:17 like the positive qualities of this individual why is she struggling a guy would be lucky to 1.00

06:29:24 be with her meanwhile she's actually like mass rejecting all the men in her league chasing after

06:29:32 a man who's above her league of course this is the end result but i mean why are they in your

06:29:39 league just because they like you how is that how it equates that that that's not the only thing

06:29:44 just because you like somebody doesn't put you in their league um it doesn't put you below their

06:29:49 league also it's do you think i'm what i'm saying is incorrect that i should is it is what i'm am i

06:30:03 what i'm describing here is just not true it is not consistent with what is happening

06:30:09 yeah i think i i've dated all sorts of everybody so i don't think that can be the case

06:30:14 that I'm you like I think you're imagining that I'm just looking for some sort of like prince

06:30:19 charming who has an amazing job who has these movie star good looks he's going to treat me

06:30:23 some sort of crazy way but it's I can establish this by your own admission you said of the men

06:30:31 who already liked you you only put five out of a hundred yeah but I'm not looking to waste my time

06:30:37 and just date anybody there has to be something okay five to to not find attract okay 95 percent

06:30:47 of men from your perspective that that they like you on the dating apps you think 95 percent of

06:30:55 men are unattractive maybe they're objectively attractive in some way but i just i don't feel

06:31:02 interest in them and then they're i understand that there can be things if you actually look 0.79

06:31:06 at their bio and they're like, Hey, yeah, um, I'm sure I like to beat women or whatever. Like, 1.00

06:31:12 yeah, you probably wouldn't want to date that guy. I understand it. Like, I don't know what

06:31:16 guy would put that. I'm just using that as an example. I understand that there's things in the

06:31:19 bio, even if the guy's otherwise attractive and you still wouldn't want to date them. I understand

06:31:24 that five out of a hundred is really low, really low. That's attraction. Well, yeah, but the,

06:31:34 the issue is is that you okay be be honest with me be honest with me right i'm 37 right uh do you

06:31:45 think i have good odds of getting a 20 year old victoria's secret model why don't shake your head 0.99

06:31:52 yes what the fuck okay do you think that uh supermodels are going to fancy me potentially 0.99

06:32:01 I think everybody has their own set of interests. 0.99

06:32:04 But I can admit, and I'm not sad about it. 0.99

06:32:07 I'm not going to, oh, my God, the 20-year-old supermodels don't want to fuck me. 1.00

06:32:11 Oh, my God. 1.00

06:32:12 I accept reality.

06:32:15 But I can admit for myself that unless this is a Hail Mary miracle, 0.99

06:32:22 some fucking supermodel slides into my DMs or something like that, 0.98

06:32:26 I accept that I'm going to be dating average looking women for the most part. 1.00

06:32:32 You know, it could be plus or minus a point or whatever.

06:32:37 I can admit that you can't, you are even coping for on my behalf for some reason.

06:32:43 Oh, Brian.

06:32:44 Yeah.

06:32:44 I think really you think you think I, I mean, I thank you for having belief in me, but it's

06:32:50 not going to happen.

06:32:51 Now, if it does, I'm still going to show up in a very confident way.

06:32:55 i'm not like i yeah you don't think you're a loser a woman who's beautiful it doesn't intimidate me

06:33:01 sure i'm still going to show up in the same exact way as if i was dating a girl in my league so to 0.99

06:33:07 speak i don't think that's true i think you'd probably put in more effort with the supermodel

06:33:10 and you'd be more excited and therefore your excitement would change your actions and your

06:33:15 behavior that's actually a fair point i would say we we do want we do desire more something that is

06:33:23 say uh more valuable i guess you could say um so you do make a good point there but what i guess

06:33:31 what i'm trying to say is like i wouldn't i wouldn't turn like if the supermodel wanted me

06:33:39 i wouldn't be like some people will reject someone because you're like oh they're

06:33:46 too above me i'm like nah i'm taking the good deal well yeah totally i'm not pushing i'm not

06:33:52 going to turn away the good deal. Right. Um, I I'm trying to remember where I was going. Uh,

06:34:00 so, okay. You think it's realistic? I'm getting a, I think it's possible. Yeah.

06:34:05 People are attracted to people for a variety of reasons. What is possible? Okay. So I'm not

06:34:10 saying it's likely I'm saying it's possible. Okay. Well, I'm not interested really in what's

06:34:14 possible. I'm interested in patterns. I'm interested in what's likely I'm interested

06:34:19 in what's um probable okay i don't possible i mean it's possible i could okay here's what's

06:34:26 possible i could have a seven sum with all of you after the show that's possible but it's highly

06:34:34 improbable sure like it's it's logically possible it could happen right like after the show you and

06:34:41 me i could i could have uh who's the she's gonna be the cuck yes she's gonna be in the corner being 0.99

06:34:47 a little cock watching us have sex go like that's possible right impossible should we do it are you 1.00

06:34:53 are you down the cheerleader do you want to do it female advisor it's impossible yeah no but it's 0.99

06:34:59 it is it's not possible it is because i would have to say yes no but it's possible it's not

06:35:04 possible it's possible you could say yes not in this reality no it's possible you can say not

06:35:10 really no the point i'm trying to make is i'm not interested in possible i'm interested in what's 0.74

06:35:17 probable okay right so it's improbable i'm going to like uh a fucking 10 out of 10 victoria secret 0.68

06:35:28 model is going to slide into my dms well there are if she does great and i'm gonna handle that 0.83

06:35:32 just fine so it's never happened no victoria yeah it's never happened all right you you think it's

06:35:41 happened no i'm just asking i'm curious based on your example it's very specific like a victoria

06:35:46 secret supermodel women do dm me and contact me do victoria c uh supermodels do that do so

06:35:53 no and the women who dm you are very average in your opinion um yeah generally speaking i'd say

06:36:01 they're average looking plus or minus a point okay in in that range sure all right 0.72

06:36:07 no cool good chat good chat but you said what's interesting to me is you say you would in you're

06:36:21 not willing to settle you would rather die alone absolutely you would rather the stress of a man

06:36:28 for nothing you would rather die childless alone than perhaps reassess your own attractiveness 1.00

06:36:38 and recalibrate you know what i fucked too many hot guys that your brain is what what what's the 0.99

06:36:48 incentive for me to really do that uh companionship love children that whole thing i mean maybe maybe 0.99

06:36:57 some point do you want kids yeah but not anytime soon really you're 27 sure i have a good 15 years

06:37:05 i'll be okay um i mean so look women just basing off women in my family too well look i understand

06:37:12 women can get pregnant in their 40s but the ideal time to start a family ideally i mean well i think

06:37:21 The ideal time is when you're ready.

06:37:24 I mean, think of it this way.

06:37:25 When's your birthday?

06:37:27 The 29th of March.

06:37:29 Okay.

06:37:30 So you got six months or so until you're 28.

06:37:36 You probably want to date a guy for one or two years before you consider getting married.

06:37:40 And then maybe you'll want to be married for a period of time, six months, a year, maybe

06:37:47 before you have kids, enjoy the marriage for a little bit.

06:37:50 maybe that's a shorter timeline maybe you date for six months a year get married have kids

06:37:56 three months later whatever uh you pretty much have to meet your guy now if you want to start

06:38:05 have your first kid at 30. I just I'm not worried about having my first kid at 30 that's

06:38:11 so when 35 40 whenever it makes sense but I understand that there's a timeline don't get me

06:38:16 wrong but i don't think it's something i have to be worried about right now and i'm not going to be

06:38:20 well i think we all need to be uh we all should try to be moving towards yes i am i'm trying to

06:38:27 date good guys but if it doesn't happen it doesn't happen yeah but you're overlooking good men

06:38:32 because you're chasing some superficial it's really not superficial you think five out of

06:38:38 100 men is attractive that's not my choice that's just who i'm attracted to what am i supposed to do

06:38:43 men i'm not attracted to it's the foundation of a relationship attraction well then you're just 0.99

06:38:48 perma-fucked like if there's something inside of you because you've either had sexual access 1.00

06:38:54 uh or more so men have had sexual access to you that are outside of your league 1.00

06:38:58 then then you've look i'll explain it maybe this will be illuminating um so here's my theory

06:39:12 on this. And it's not just a theory, it's true. As are all your theories, really.

06:39:18 Everything I say is 100% spot on and accurate. But it is descriptively a phenomenon.

06:39:28 So women can date and deal with men on a short term, typically just a strictly casual sex basis

06:39:38 with men outside of their league men on the other hand cannot do this vastly speaking generally

06:39:46 speaking so if i slide into an instagram girls dms i get ignored i don't get a response i don't

06:39:53 get a conversation i don't get a date i don't get anything get nothing right uh you can be

06:39:58 you know you can be a five six seven slide into a guy who's an eight nine ten dm and 1.00

06:40:06 all it takes for a woman be pleasant and make yourself sexually available men will sleep with 0.68

06:40:14 you they will never be in a relationship with you because in there i think there's a bit of a

06:40:22 difference i believe now this isn't universal i believe generally speaking for a woman to sleep

06:40:28 with a man into from an attraction perspective for a woman to sleep with a man he has to be at least

06:40:35 physically attractive enough that she would be in a relationship with him.

06:40:41 So now it often goes even further though. Sometimes women acknowledge, whoa, this guy's

06:40:48 really hot. Normally I wouldn't do a casual thing, but he's so attractive. I'll do casual with him.

06:40:56 And it's not ideal, but he's so attractive. Women will break their rule in that way. So women 0.98

06:41:02 who might not otherwise be inclined to casual sex if the guy's hot enough they'll do it then 0.99

06:41:09 men are the complete reverse so what men do is uh men will have casual sex with women that they 0.99

06:41:18 would never be in a relationship with just based on her looks so men will uh they'll sleep with a 0.99

06:41:24 girl and he would never be in a relationship with her but he'll have sex with her right 1.00

06:41:29 typically women don't do that like if a woman's trying to get her nut if she's trying to just 1.00

06:41:35 fuck she's gonna try to get the hottest possible guy whereas men they'll try to get anything i mean 0.99

06:41:43 men men obviously like even for a casual thing obviously the ideal is to sleep with the hottest 1.00

06:41:50 most attractive woman possible but that's not always on the table so men will settle men will 0.99

06:41:56 fuck down right women will if it's just fuck they'll fuck up right so then why doesn't the 1.00

06:42:03 male body count for all their garbage fucking count that's a separate conversation i'll get 1.00

06:42:09 to that later okay um because of this because of this um i think that women can skew because 1.00

06:42:20 you'll get sexual attention from men who are, say, this attractive. And you might be, maybe

06:42:27 sometimes they lie about their intentions, which is wrong for men to do. And it's a criticism I

06:42:33 have of men who lie about their intentions in order to get sex. That aside, if you're sleeping 0.85

06:42:42 with a guy who's this attractive, and it could be looks, but it could also be the other things that

06:42:47 make a man attractive it could be charisma personality humor status success uh is he

06:42:55 professional athlete professional musician all these things um that can warp your brain

06:43:03 in this way uh have you ever lived in a dorm room maybe i don't know if you're in college i forgot

06:43:10 but a dorm room like with in college with roommates yeah did you have room like roommates

06:43:15 have I ever had roommates shared a room have I ever shared one room yes no you've never shared

06:43:22 a room okay have you ever shared a bathroom in an apartment um no I don't think so okay

06:43:28 privilege um what about when you were growing up you didn't have a shared bathroom oh like that

06:43:33 sure sure now is it better to have your own bathroom or have a shared bathroom I have my

06:43:41 own bathroom is it better and then you did obviously your experience growing up you shared

06:43:45 a house with your parents do you do you think it's better to like have your own place have a

06:43:50 nice apartment have my own place right would it be difficult for you to go back say i don't know 0.78

06:43:56 the nanny shit i don't know whatever doesn't work out whatever uh would it be difficult for you to 0.63

06:44:02 go and have a roommate well actually where i'm staying right now technically i have roommates 0.98

06:44:08 i'm in an airbnb and there are other people living there but i have my own room and my own bathroom

06:44:13 and everything. Own room and own bathroom. Sorry. When I say roommate, sometimes it depends where

06:44:18 you live. When I say roommate, I mean someone living in your room with you. Would it be difficult

06:44:25 for me to do that? Yes. To go to having had the experience of having your own place, own room,

06:44:30 own bathroom. Yes. Because I'm conditioned to wanting more now. So I would never accept

06:44:35 less. It would be hard to go back. Yeah. And I don't want to. Why would I? I'm going to make

06:44:39 sure that doesn't happen. Right. And so because of this, it's very difficult because men don't

06:44:47 get that level of access to women outside their league, whereas women can secure short-term

06:44:53 sexual access to men who are outside of their league. And so you think, well, that's if, oh,

06:44:59 okay, if I can fuck a guy who's a eight or a nine, you're going to sort of be chasing that 0.99

06:45:06 feeling it's like a high it's like heroin once you've done i've never done heroin but i would 0.99

06:45:13 assume once you've done heroin nothing feels quite as good as that and it kind of like turns the

06:45:21 dimmer switch down yeah but everybody's standards get set by something right which is why well which 0.98

06:45:28 is why body count matters because once a girl's had enough dick and okay this guy was rich this 0.99

06:45:35 guy was really funny. This guy was really good looking. This guy was really good in bed. You 0.99

06:45:39 create an amalgamation in your brain, uh, of all the positive characteristics of all the men you've

06:45:45 dated. And then it's like, uh, there's going to be some apprehension when you're dealing with, uh,

06:45:52 with, uh, Brad. And it's like, well, he's got two out of the four things, but he's missing this and

06:45:59 he's missing that. And it makes things more difficult. And then maybe sometimes you land on

06:46:04 the guy who's the total package, but you don't keep them, but you're going to keep chasing that

06:46:09 feeling. You want, you want that because you know, it's out there. And so ultimately though,

06:46:16 ultimately you start thinking that's your league. The men who sleep with you is your league.

06:46:23 Your league is the men who will commit to you. That's your league. And that's no one. So what

06:46:28 am i a zero well what ideally what what ultimately would to assess what your league is it's the men

06:46:36 who would be in a relationship with you and if those men none of those men are you find attractive

06:46:42 well you're just too picky oh well okay whatever end of your bloodline oh well end of your bloodline

06:46:51 i can have children if i want to have children i can still have children without a man so you're 1.00

06:46:57 going to intentionally be a single mom i think single mothers can do a better job than like you 0.96

06:47:03 know two parents in some cases if they're not good parents can but unlikely if i think if you're

06:47:09 going to the trouble of doing artificial insemination or whatever it is uh then you're

06:47:14 pretty motivated to be a parent and a good one um you said you think sydney sweeney is worse for

06:47:22 women than a woman who killed her three children. That aside, that's not what I said, but here, 0.88

06:47:29 I'll give you one more example I wanted to give. Um, let me do the role reversal and see if this,

06:47:37 I don't know, Phil click. So, um, I don't have sexual, despite how much I might enjoy it. I

06:47:45 don't even have limited sexual access to supermodels or women who are like just really 1.00

06:47:50 good looking, but just want to use me for sex. Tragic though, that may be. Um, if there was a 0.93

06:47:58 scenario where there was just swarms of women who wanted to pay for dates and they wanted to do all 1.00

06:48:06 this just so they could sleep with me and they were this attractive or whatever, uh, but they 1.00

06:48:12 only wanted to use me for sex and they'd fuck me once, twice, or three times, but they were good 1.00

06:48:17 looking, like out of my league, so to speak. Explain the incentive for me to date the average 1.00

06:48:24 girl. It depends on what you're looking for, I guess. If you're really looking to settle down 0.60

06:48:31 and have a family do all these things and you know the supermodels are just being frivolous

06:48:34 or whatever, then yeah, you have a different incentive. But do you think that it would

06:48:39 introduce complications to the me my willingness to date the average woman if you know what maybe 1.00

06:48:51 the next supermodel that wants to fuck me once or twice or three times maybe i can get her i mean 0.98

06:48:58 in theory i think if you were a teenager or something maybe but i think we all analyze 0.99

06:49:02 our lives a lot more than that and i think it's all about intentions and your motivation

06:49:07 to like achieve what you want so if you're looking to settle down have a family all that and you know

06:49:12 these supermodels just into you for i don't know one night or whatever your example is then you 0.90

06:49:18 wouldn't go about looking for them okay if i were to flip flip the rules do you think men would

06:49:24 actually want to have like get into the relationships they do what men what do you mean

06:49:33 just all men do i think men would get if we flipped to the roles where um just a bunch of 0.99

06:49:38 hot chicks wanted to fuck us and we uh we did well i honestly i think men are a bit delusional 0.93

06:49:48 anyway i think a lot of men if you if you ask the men the same question at this table you've asked 0.99

06:49:52 us they all think that they have the potential or a lot of them think they have much more potential

06:49:56 than they do for sure i'm willing to grant that there are some delusional men but there's far

06:50:01 fewer delusional men that there are delusional well i think because we get slapped with reality

06:50:06 because look first off i i disagree with your assessment here um while there are some uh

06:50:13 delusional men i think if i were to ask if i were to ask a hundred thousand women what percentage

06:50:19 of men are you attracted to that average number is going to be way lower than that okay men what

06:50:26 What percentage of women are you attracted to?

06:50:28 I think women are going to be 5%, 10%, 20%, right? 0.87

06:50:33 Men are going to say 50%. 0.82

06:50:34 Half of women are attractive, maybe more even.

06:50:38 The thing is, most women are not attracted to most men.

06:50:43 Most men are attracted to most women.

06:50:46 Sure. 0.96

06:50:47 Right.

06:50:48 And so we have this dilemma where, I don't know.

06:50:53 it's very complicated i think the men are starting to become attracted to men so that's part of the

06:50:59 problem too no there's even more competition it's very battle of the sexes wait the gay thing i

06:51:04 mean it's funny but the it's true no it's not the this idea that uh the hetero the men you

06:51:11 encounter and like heterosexual dating contacts are secretly gay i understand that that happens

06:51:17 but maybe if you're a liberal woman trying to date like a soy boy feminist or whatever maybe 0.57

06:51:23 it's more likely but the vast majority of heterosexual men are not secretly gay that's 0.99

06:51:29 ridiculous we'll never know look you might not end up with the hottest dude or whatever 0.91

06:51:41 honestly consider lowering your standards a bit um give a guy a shot sure maybe give a guy a shot 0.93

06:51:50 who you're like let me ask you a question do you need to feel the click um like when okay say first

06:51:58 first date and maybe the guy's a bit nervous or awkward or something no i often i've often done

06:52:03 like a second date because i think that the guy you know maybe for whatever reason maybe he was

06:52:07 tired he was under pressure whatever it was that he wasn't being his like best self well assume the

06:52:12 click doesn't occur on the second date either yeah then i'm probably signing off have you ever dated

06:52:17 a guy where the click was the strong picture the guy who you had the strongest connection to ever

06:52:23 okay are you picturing him do you know do you know who it is you don't have to say his name but

06:52:28 one quick question was was that your boyfriend of a year uh a year and a half i would say yes

06:52:36 okay um was that a good relationship no but i the second i saw him what was wrong with the

06:52:45 relationship um he was he was insane okay now we're getting somewhere okay the second you saw

06:52:51 him what were you gonna say uh i instantly thought he was like most attractive person i'd ever seen

06:52:56 physically attractive or for how he carried himself or otherwise like both all of it he had

06:53:02 some sort of mystique articulate it what what was it uh just like the way he moved it looked

06:53:07 different and just the way he like his posture everything about him seemed exotic exotic yeah

06:53:14 yeah yeah white guy yeah i said he was polish polish i mean it's i'm not saying exotic in

06:53:19 the strictest sense of the word but compared to what i had known okay all right um and you

06:53:25 instantly more so than with any other man felt this way with him have you felt it since uh no

06:53:33 not instantly like that not like but i've had i've had clicks now what was the context of how

06:53:38 you met him uh we were working in the same place so was this something that developed over time or

06:53:43 was like when you started dating him? Oh, we were working in the same place for, for months and we

06:53:50 never spoke. We didn't like, we worked in the same place, but it was big. So the first time you met

06:53:54 him, uh, you felt, you felt that way, but it wasn't until months later you actually started

06:53:59 dating. Is that, um, I mean, I never really met him formally. So it was just like, we passed in

06:54:04 the hall kind of thing, but no, that first time you laid eyes on him, you felt it. Yes. Okay. But

06:54:10 It wasn't until a bit later that, so how did you guys, did you make the move?

06:54:15 Did he make the move?

06:54:16 Well, I think we just started talking because I had to help him with something for work.

06:54:20 So then we just chatted a little bit, and he said that he's felt some sort of connection to me since I first started working there.

06:54:29 And you said he was insane.

06:54:31 How so?

06:54:33 He's just a very unusual person, you know, and that's kind of what I liked about him to begin with.

06:54:38 He seemed different, you know.

06:54:40 um but then he was like abusive in many ways so yeah things went downhill

06:54:47 what's so funny about that well part of my uh my my confusion like i think love and bond and

06:55:02 connection is something that can grow and i don't often hear men being like i need the click i need

06:55:08 the chemistry i need the lightning uh i think men are in this way can oftentimes be a bit more

06:55:14 pragmatic when it comes to dating um it's often women who want to feel that that click thing you

06:55:21 want the movie moment the the magic moment and it's this sort of very i personally find it to

06:55:27 be a bit of a naive approach to dating um and not really a great foundation upon to to build

06:55:34 a solid and strong relationship chemistry chemistry isn't a good foundation well it depends what we

06:55:40 mean by chemistry so i mean have you ever had chemistry with any of these other men that you've

06:55:45 dated sure and what do we really mean by chemistry um you you were talking about this click this like

06:55:51 feeling that you just felt for this guy and that's going to be something that you're going

06:55:55 to chase and when men invariably uh let you down and disappoint you um because they lack

06:56:04 to produce that and elicit that feeling in you um but i guess what i found amusing while i was

06:56:13 sort of chuckling is that despite this this uh insane click that you felt for this man

06:56:21 you said he was abusive yes so clearly this click is not a particularly strong indicator of whether

06:56:29 a person will actually end up being good for you no i totally agree you have to be very careful

06:56:33 right but you so even though here's the guy who you felt the strongest thing forever

06:56:40 he abused you how so i mean physically and mentally uh sexually no

06:56:47 uh how would he mentally abuse you um just calling me names and you know all the classic

06:56:55 things uh and then he physically abused you too so he'd hit you yes like uh how so i don't really

06:57:02 want to go into that much but as you can imagine well i mean there's varying levels of physical

06:57:07 abuse so i mean like he would uh did you ever have to go to the hospital how about that okay

06:57:15 but he would leave marks on you um yes okay face no uh so he'd punch you in the body or

06:57:24 i don't why is that even relevant it's really not it gives context for i don't really think it does

06:57:32 okay well we don't have to revisit your past trauma but um i guess what i would point out

06:57:38 here is and how soon into the relationship did the abuse start um what was it maybe like six months

06:57:46 or nine months somewhere along there it was it was like we were in it we were living together

06:57:51 and everything so so he didn't put any hands on you until six to nine months in yeah what about

06:57:57 the verbal abuse did that start sooner um I would say so yeah I don't I don't remember the exact

06:58:02 timeline but that definitely came first yeah okay um and then uh

06:58:10 hmm and you stayed with him for another

06:58:17 nine months something like that yeah a year okay um

06:58:22 Hmm. Was he consistent?

06:58:29 Consistent in?

06:58:30 You said of the hundred men you've been on dates with in the past four years, your big complaint is consistency.

06:58:35 Okay, general consistency.

06:58:36 Was he consistent?

06:58:37 Yes, he was very much in the relationship. I guess too much so looking back on it. But yeah, it was all about me.

06:58:46 Was it ever on again, off again?

06:58:48 Yeah, I mean, I would say in that year and a half,

06:58:50 maybe the last, like, six months or so was on again, off again.

06:58:55 Who would end it?

06:58:57 I mean, I moved to a different country.

06:59:00 So we had already broken up, but I think that's really what, you know, ended it.

06:59:04 All right, so would you get back with him?

06:59:12 No, never.

06:59:14 When's the last time you spoke to him?

06:59:16 Years ago, three years ago.

06:59:17 ago. Uh, and this was in Ireland, right? Yes. But he's Polish. Yes. But like grew up in Ireland

06:59:25 or like moved? No, he moved as an adult. Okay. Um, did you ever go to the police? Yes. Was

06:59:34 he arrested? No. Uh, you went to the police for the physical abuse then? Okay. Uh, restraining

06:59:43 order no okay well perhaps chasing after this click thing the one instance where you felt the

06:59:57 click the strongest we can argue that this man was of all the men you've dated and i know that

07:00:03 he was the longest the longest relationship you've had um he was the worst for you yeah 0.93

07:00:10 now don't you think that that's revealing light bulb moment who gives a fuck about the click 0.71

07:00:21 clearly it's not a great indicator of anything and i i don't wait around for the click all the

07:00:28 time but you know i would like there to be some chemistry like i'm talking about i want to feel

07:00:33 really attracted to that person does it have to be this um fairy tale thing no but there has to

07:00:39 be something all right well i don't think i'm going to change your mind on this but um i do

07:00:48 hear you but i just think it is what it is attracted to this person what can't you just feel

07:00:53 like averagely attracted is that not enough not really do you feel averagely attracted to the

07:01:05 people you've been in relationships with i i highly doubt it you know you're really i mean

07:01:10 if you want me to be honest i can acknowledge that women who i've dated in the past there are

07:01:17 more attractive women than the women i've dated but you when you were with them you were really

07:01:23 into them i'm sure uh really into them um i think attraction can be more than just looks of course

07:01:33 right but um i mean i would be lying to say that there's obviously going to be women who are more

07:01:45 attractive than the woman you're currently dating but that doesn't mean i wasn't in love with my

07:01:50 previous girlfriends or any of that such a weird way of answering it though ask it again so you're

07:01:56 you're saying that you were still thinking about other women who are more attractive when you're

07:01:59 with the women you're with and you weren't focusing on how attracted you were to them

07:02:03 Because my question is just, weren't you really attracted to the women you were with?

07:02:06 No, I'm not saying that I was like pining over or thinking about or lusting about other women while I was with my girlfriend.

07:02:14 I was saying that it is conceivable much.

07:02:18 I mean, I suppose any person can do this, whether you're a man or a woman.

07:02:22 Like, you know what?

07:02:23 I really like this person.

07:02:25 We have a great connection.

07:02:27 I think that they're attractive.

07:02:29 but there are people who I could conceivably have a stronger connection with or be more

07:02:34 attracted to. Sure. You never know what else is out there. Right. So I don't think that's like

07:02:38 incompatible with being in a relationship. I agree.

07:02:45 Like, do you think like the guy who marries like the refrigerator looking Torda is like,

07:02:55 wow this is the most beautiful woman in the world i don't know what a torch that is it's a it's a 1.00

07:03:01 plump plump fat mexican woman like do you think he's like do you think it's impossible that this 1.00

07:03:09 guy and he looks at a woman like megan fox when she was 20 and he was like yeah my girl is just

07:03:16 as beautiful as megan fox at 20 no but why is he with her then i mean he's obviously attracted to 0.97

07:03:24 this because you gotta be if say say you're a five foot three fucking conquistador looking 1.00

07:03:32 motherfucker like you're a mexican five foot three mexican you ain't i i love mexicans i love 1.00

07:03:39 mexicans they're dope as fuck you're not getting megan fox sorry buddy i'm not getting megan fox 1.00

07:03:45 either sorry Brian okay I accept it so you got a date within your league is what I'm saying I feel 1.00

07:03:57 I am and that's what I'm saying but I don't think you are I'm trying my best I go on all the dates

07:04:03 hello oh my god oh my god okay well good luck I guess thank you um anyways I got I'll move it on

07:04:15 we'll finish up the notes um did we do the looks rating uh i'll give everyone the looks rating

07:04:21 line on it i don't even remember what you guys rated yourselves but um uh we should do you said

07:04:27 i gotta shave my beard for you to see the true yeah we gotta do makeup who's down to take off 1.00

07:04:33 their makeup see that's the other thing not only do women inherently inflate their looks just in 1.00

07:04:42 their their female brain they'll inflate their looks because they get sexual access to men 1.00

07:04:48 outside their league and then they wear makeup and then they're like oh uh they're going to 1.00

07:04:55 assess their looks based off of them using an artificial enhancer we're wearing makeup because

07:05:01 we're here but most women don't wear it daily well i don't i rarely ever wear oh you do every

07:05:07 day you get full face yeah well wait here's another um uh compounding factor or i don't know

07:05:16 if that's the right word not in it it's like just domino domino effect is that the right 0.98

07:05:24 when women wear makeup that increase artificially increases your level of this is actually something 0.93

07:05:31 i don't think i've actually argued before when women wear makeup it artificially increases their

07:05:36 level of attraction, therefore garnering attraction from men who are more attractive than them

07:05:41 because you're bolstering your physical attractiveness through the use of makeup.

07:05:45 So then when you start getting attention from men because of your makeup, uh, or at least

07:05:52 because of that incremental, uh, that, that incremental incremental increase, is that

07:05:58 redundant? Fuck it. I don't know. Fucking midnight now. Um, so then it just like, and then, okay, 1.00

07:06:04 you look at yourself and I'm wearing makeup and I'm more attractive and then guys are more

07:06:09 attracted to me when I wear makeup. So I'm more attractive. It's like, imagine, can I ask you guys

07:06:14 a question in the future? This will a hundred percent exist. Nano robots, uh, that can basically

07:06:22 teeny little, uh, led robots that can completely mask your face and completely change your

07:06:31 appearance so i could put brad pitt over me or i could put like young brad pitt or i could women 1.00

07:06:36 could do this too you could be fucking ugly as fuck as a woman and then the robots completely 1.00

07:06:41 cover your face and then you're a whole totally different person would this be 1.00

07:06:46 deceptive

07:06:50 yes yes that's makeup 100 not as strong of as an effect but that is makeup and that's

07:07:01 beards too because you're covering half your face tell you what i am willing but you know what as

07:07:07 as representative of the male and beard delegation we are willing to give up our beards entirely 0.98

07:07:14 if women give up all their 0.99

07:07:16 cosmetics. And we'll give up hats 1.00

07:07:18 too. As representative

07:07:20 as rep. So the bald guys

07:07:22 can't bald. Hatfish.

07:07:24 So okay. Hatfish.

07:07:26 Us men agree.

07:07:28 Us men agree to give up hats

07:07:30 and beards. But you guys have to give up

07:07:32 your cosmetics. Perfect.

07:07:34 Done. What's your problem? No problem.

07:07:37 No problem at all. You just don't like

07:07:38 when girls wear makeup. You prefer natural girls. 1.00

07:07:41 Because what's the problem?

07:07:42 yeah i guess it's just a form of expression like anything else you don't okay uh do you think

07:07:47 makeup looks you more makes you look more attractive i certainly prefer how i look with

07:07:50 it but you know no hands ever sent me back once you've seen me without the makeup

07:07:54 he said you say you always wear makeup though yes but of course sometimes there are that's part of

07:08:05 the deception though i feel like is you you um there's something and i i struggle to fully

07:08:14 articulate this there's something to that initial impression of you being with makeup that will

07:08:23 frame future um that i don't know um yeah but it's just like if you pick a profile

07:08:35 picture for some account you're going to pick the best picture of yourself we're all trying to put

07:08:39 ourselves out there you you're just a straight pimp on dating apps and you date you've done dated

07:08:45 100 dudes in the past four years does one photo let me ask you a question is one photo on your

07:08:52 dating app you without makeup no there are none catfish catfish he won't take the makeup off on

07:08:59 the podcast i'm gonna say if you were to take your makeup off we're talking one or two points

07:09:05 down in looks okay it's just one man's opinion um you look i'm not trying to i'm not saying this

07:09:16 to be mean i'm just i think i'm descriptively true you are emblematic of the problem when it

07:09:22 comes to dating you are you are just like exhibit a your exhibit a is you five percent of men are

07:09:33 attractive a hundred dates in the past four years the the one guy you were in a long-term relationship

07:09:39 that you had to click with was physically and emotionally abusive verbally abusive um you

07:09:46 you you wear the makeup and it bolsters your artificial attractiveness and so now you think

07:09:51 you're more attractive than you actually are and now you want to play in a league uh that's not

07:09:56 your league and you want to date men outside of your league and men aren't attractive right but

07:10:02 all the victoria's secret supermodels are all wearing makeup too yeah but they're and they're

07:10:05 all wearing nice clothes and whatever blah blah blah if you see them as scrunchie and attractive 0.57

07:10:10 they're going to be less attractive than what they are on the runway or whatever it is it's all

07:10:14 relative a man's going to look more attractive and you know some suit than he is a hoodie 1.00

07:10:19 clothing is a different argument but um i would argue that there are women who are like 0.58

07:10:25 seriously beautiful without any makeup sure and sometimes makeup can bolster it a little bit but 0.99

07:10:33 they're already so beautiful that whereas i think that women can employ makeup to the point

07:10:42 where not necessarily to the point i'm not saying it's like they're wearing so much makeup

07:10:48 but there's certainly women who will wear even, I don't want to say minimal, but who are wearing

07:10:56 as much makeup as you are. So I believe you're wearing powder on the face. You've got mascara,

07:11:03 you've got eye shadow, you've got fake lashes or no. Yeah. You do have fake lashes in. Um,

07:11:11 i don't know if you color in your eyebrows at all yes uh lipstick lipstick lipstick okay

07:11:18 full face of makeup right sure um i think that there will be men if you were to take that makeup

07:11:26 off that wouldn't date you but would based off of your makeup look would date you that's deceptive

07:11:33 right but there are men that i would potentially maybe date if i saw them you know presenting

07:11:38 themselves in the best way and then when they're on on the couch with a pizza box box on top of

07:11:42 their stomach i mean it's less attractive it's all relative yeah that's that's a bit different 0.52

07:11:46 than makeup though facial men don't really use the same means that women do to optimize facial 0.59

07:11:53 attractiveness like makeup that's their problem well it's women would not really tolerate uh

07:12:00 makeup usage in men broadly speaking they they would some women are okay with it many would find 1.00

07:12:07 it not masculine they'd be like what the fuck you're more of a chick than i am so the problem 0.99

07:12:14 is men can't wear makeup and then it's unfair no no don't get it twisted i'm very much against 0.99

07:12:20 normalizing makeup usage in men i would push back against that massively my position is not

07:12:27 oh poor men we can't use makeup it's no we definitely should not use makeup and maybe

07:12:33 women shouldn't also what about hair color oh yeah yeah because that's a and like there's a

07:12:39 lot of men that have fake hair now well and they don't die they put a fake thing on you know implants

07:12:46 yeah and they don't dye their hair either but we're supposed to dye ours right

07:12:49 it's just it's all in your own taste right everybody i'm just curious big labia beauty

07:12:57 is an eye of the question maybe that's the problem because i think look maybe it is i'm trying to i'm

07:13:02 trying to help you you know a lot of men they prefer the any maybe that's it you know i really

07:13:08 have nothing to say about maybe that's i really don't no comment all right um all right let me 0.97

07:13:14 finish up the show notes hopefully get this wrapped pretty soon uh all right whoo shit 0.87

07:13:21 starving give adam a chance just give adam a chance adam who just adam average adam 0.92

07:13:31 I have. I've given plenty of Adams a chance.

07:13:33 Give average Adam a chance.

07:13:34 It did not help me.

07:13:35 This girl, this girl. All right.

07:13:37 Okay, we got...

07:13:40 We talked about the master's degree.

07:13:45 You said you've been dropped off and ghosted at a restaurant.

07:13:48 Yes.

07:13:49 You have interesting, transparent conversations with a date who traveled three hours to have dinner with you.

07:13:54 um tell us the tell us the the story of the guy who went and picked you up and then

07:14:03 it was premature tell us that what do you mean it was premature oh come on i just gave a thousand

07:14:11 prompts it was premature okay so the guy that oh okay so my little dating story that i shared with

07:14:17 you i had been corresponding with somebody for a little bit and i believe it was on hinge actually

07:14:22 at the time and I had um told him several times like I wasn't interested in him because he wasn't

07:14:28 really my type but I'm like he kept coming you know they rematch with you so I'm like well maybe

07:14:33 this time whatever so I did and we spoke for a while he had my phone number um we exchanged

07:14:41 pictures clean pictures um spoke almost every single day and he lives very far away so we like

07:14:48 planned something in the future for him to come take me on a date whatever so he finally made a

07:14:55 date with me made reservations at a place near my house and picked me up and he was really excited

07:15:02 I'm so excited to meet you you know the usual whatever and gave me a hug and said you smell

07:15:08 really good whatever put me in the car the restaurant was not too far from me I mean I

07:15:13 could walk home from there and um he dropped me off and he said i'm gonna go park now and i'll be

07:15:20 right you know right in reservations under my name and um i just started getting this weird

07:15:27 feeling i'm sitting there because it didn't take that long to park um in about 10 minutes i got a

07:15:32 message saying that um i'm terribly sorry but i'm no longer interested yeah i was like what whatever

07:15:41 his last so he was younger than me they're always younger than me um and so that was not even an

07:15:47 issue and it's like I was very transparent about what I look like I don't really wear makeup

07:15:51 my body's the same you know there was no catfishing anything so it was really weird

07:15:57 and then um yeah so they went on Facebook are we dating the same guy yeah and I put his picture

07:16:04 up right away yeah I was in total shock I mean the waitress came over and she was like um are

07:16:09 you okay i was just like uh not really i don't even know what just happened it was like so weird

07:16:14 you should have went to the bar and found another one well well so he's a police officer and so what

07:16:18 one of my friends told me i should have done which i'm in hindsight i should have called the precinct

07:16:23 and said hey you know i forgot something in his car oh really oh let's do you have his number yeah

07:16:29 i tried but he like he left me at a restaurant you know i love that i love the revenge i so should

07:16:35 have done that but i didn't i was like i'm gonna move on whatever it just was so weird yeah so

07:16:40 yeah i don't have time for that negativity so i but i did go on to facebook and i had to and i

07:16:46 put his picture up and i said is anyone dating anyone and then like three four different people

07:16:51 chimed in oh he was so nice he's great he brought me flowers and they're like well maybe he thought

07:16:57 you catfished him or something like that and i put my picture up nobody really puts their picture

07:17:02 up i'm like i don't think i catfish it was like a nice picture of myself i don't think i have no

07:17:08 idea what i have no idea what happened but that was probably the weirdest type of thing for me

07:17:14 that i've gone through and um and i've gone on a lot of interesting dates you know like you have

07:17:23 and they're just you know i'm a one date wonder yeah maybe you had like a an anxiety issue or

07:17:31 something you know like the the whole thing was just too much for him i don't know maybe maybe

07:17:35 because i'm like a mature woman and i yeah you know it happens you know but there was like full

07:17:41 transparency i never lie about my age i never lie about anything it was just a weird it was very

07:17:46 interesting so yeah so that's my story so i was gone but i overheard most of it um so

07:17:52 like how long was he there so he just came to pick me up but i went in his car

07:18:00 gave me just like a hug

07:18:03 it was just very basic

07:18:05 it wasn't like oh my god it was like real quick

07:18:07 because we had a reservation

07:18:08 we went the restaurant was literally

07:18:11 like you know probably 10 minutes

07:18:13 away from me

07:18:14 so you were in the car with him

07:18:17 uh huh okay so 10 minutes in the car

07:18:19 did he park it

07:18:21 no he went to go he said

07:18:23 the reservation is under my name just go

07:18:25 inside whatever I'm going to go park the car

07:18:27 so I went in it's pretty normal

07:18:29 protocol right and so i went and sat down i gave him his name whatever and i just sat there

07:18:34 and i'm waiting and waiting and like five minutes go by 10 minutes go by i'm like this is a trip

07:18:40 and i just started getting that i have really good intuition just started getting this weird

07:18:45 feeling and that was when i got a text message from him oh okay i'm terrible i'm terribly sorry

07:18:50 but i'm no longer interested i'm like what okay so so yeah so you total it was like 10 15 minutes

07:18:59 yeah yeah and that's and i had been speaking to him for like a little while his ex-girlfriend

07:19:06 called back his ex-girlfriend called herself no okay so you claim you didn't catfish if he picked

07:19:12 her up right but no no we exchange pictures like all the time like yeah i'm gonna go work out now

07:19:17 whatever nothing nasty or anything like just normal like hey i'm doing this i'm doing that

07:19:21 just pictures would you put the filter on the pictures i never use a filter and i don't really

07:19:26 wear makeup and the the photos you sent how did you meet i met him on hinge i believe okay the

07:19:34 pictures you had on hinge i don't use filters on anything makeup i don't this is pictures of you

07:19:39 when you were younger no hell no no my pictures are all like now okay now keep in mind i'm gonna

07:19:47 i'm gonna go ahead and just be like okay it's not a catfish situation from his perspective right

07:19:53 um although even if you don't wear makeup and use filters

07:19:58 were the photos whole body full body both oh no i sent him pictures of i have pictures of me

07:20:05 how old was he full dress he um was probably around your age my age yeah did she did she

07:20:14 reveal this she says all of the guys she dates are younger men yeah yeah i tried to i tried to

07:20:21 date men my age just not working okay so i get it the cougar thing this is interesting no no it's

07:20:28 not a cougar thing so i'm not a i don't look for them they find me well hold on when you're on

07:20:33 hinge you can set your age range no but i don't look for men this is just this is not a hint it's

07:20:38 like everywhere yeah but most most women on like most 30 year old women wouldn't set their age

07:20:44 range to like 18 to 40 i usually do it from like probably 36 or 38 to like 60 or something 0.92

07:20:54 and then so what they do is they give you a few years that way or a few years that way i mean

07:20:58 okay you're 59 yeah i am and you set you want to date a 38 year old sure why not that's i click

07:21:06 better i click look i don't object to age gap relationships i'm not getting married but it's

07:21:10 okay. The, the, I, okay, fine. You're, uh, you're fine dating younger people. That's fine. Um,

07:21:16 going back to the, the date situation. Um,

07:21:22 okay. So a couple of things here, a 10 period window of time is enough time to potentially

07:21:32 figure out if this is like a vibe or not uh not what really wasn't here do you still have his

07:21:40 he drove like he drove like two hours to see me okay that wait that does make i'm an ellie yeah

07:21:47 the girlfriend texts him or call him there's no way all these things for him just to and you sent

07:21:54 him photos yeah yep i promise he knew your age and how you guys were texting for a couple weeks

07:22:01 or something for over a month i mean like yeah for for a good amount of time and he he had tried

07:22:05 to match with me several times okay this is getting a bit so he had tried to match with me

07:22:10 several several times several times and and i was like no i'm not really into what's his job i'm not

07:22:15 into police officers oh he's a cop he's a cop i'm not into that at all and you're okay but he was

07:22:19 you know i was like i'm like well maybe who know maybe i don't know so i was like maybe did you

07:22:24 guys ever facetimed um i think we might have actually once and we spoke on the phone also

07:22:31 do you think like your ex-husband would have somebody like no no not even no he doesn't even

07:22:36 live in the state like no no see what you're doing or whatever totally not like that okay

07:22:40 no no not even i know it's weird because we were like yeah no like no one could figure it out i'm

07:22:47 like this is the weirdest freaking thing and you asked him any what did he oh no no i called him 0.93

07:22:52 right away he didn't answer the phone of course not wait where does he live oh fuck i wish we did 0.98

07:22:59 this earlier where he is he's in um what's the um the place it's in orange county so he's like a 0.98

07:23:05 harupa valley hold on cop so what's next he's in he's in california yeah yeah okay

07:23:12 we're gonna fucking do this um now we got to check it beforehand honestly just met he might

07:23:20 know the podcast, send them a text message right now and be like, hi, I'm on the whatever podcast. 0.97

07:23:27 Remember that I'm just telling them about what happened. I'm not going to say your name.

07:23:31 The first thing you could just ask is, you could be like, hmm, what's the best framing for this?

07:23:37 I mean, one, we should get him on the phone, but if he's not open to that, I would say,

07:23:43 hey, just because I'm on the whatever podcast, I don't know if you've seen it. I'm not going

07:23:46 to share your name or anything will you tell me what was wrong and i think if you say that we'll

07:23:53 get the answer you think okay i have to search for for his thing that tiffany will bring you

07:23:58 your phone tiffany will bring you your phone and you can do it at the table everything um

07:24:03 and then if he's down to be called we'll call him otherwise um i'm trying to think what's that area

07:24:10 near here's laguna like inland from laguna alisa viejo no um well it doesn't that doesn't matter

07:24:17 the location or whatever but hold on you posted in on the the are we dating the same guy i think

07:24:24 those are kind of toxic i'm not gonna lie yeah i did and there were three people that knew exactly

07:24:30 who he was and there was another person chimed in that actually works with him she's like em she's

07:24:36 the emt and i was done and she's like well there's more to the story and i'm like really do tell

07:24:44 what did she tell no of course not there's no there's nothing more there was nothing else

07:24:49 happened maybe she was like nothing happened something going on with him i i mean i don't

07:24:53 know maybe it's the pink one yeah yeah it was weird and it was just like i mean i didn't even

07:25:01 need closure it was like whatever but i was just in shock because i've have never experienced that

07:25:06 Okay. So here, we're going to craft the text right now. Um, I have to find it though. I don't know if he's blocked you or something or whatever, but it was a while ago. So, okay. So you're going to text him. Hey, I'm on the whatever podcast right now. I'm not going to share your name, but I told the story of our date.

07:25:32 can you, for the podcast, can you tell me the reason or better yet, can we call you?

07:25:43 Okay, let me, uh, hold on. Cause we need it. We need the reason. Let him text. We need the reason.

07:25:50 Was that good? Yes. It was very good. Yes. Do you need to text? Give him the 300 IQ 300 IQ,

07:25:56 Or I could tell her to do it and she'll do it. 0.60

07:25:58 But, um, uh, Hmm.

07:26:02 The only thing I can propose and I, I, I have a duty from a, you're a guy.

07:26:07 Yeah.

07:26:07 Okay.

07:26:08 You have a slight tick and maybe that was it.

07:26:12 Yeah.

07:26:12 But I don't have it all.

07:26:14 It's not all the time.

07:26:14 It's, I don't sleep.

07:26:15 Like it's super minor.

07:26:16 Like it wouldn't bother me.

07:26:17 It's when I don't sleep.

07:26:18 No, no, no.

07:26:19 It's not like, but you know what I'm talking about?

07:26:20 Yeah.

07:26:20 But I, yeah, I do.

07:26:21 You do like a, I do.

07:26:23 Yeah.

07:26:24 Maybe it was that.

07:26:26 It's not all the time?

07:26:27 No, and I wasn't with him long enough for that to even notice.

07:26:31 But you've had the tick the entire show.

07:26:33 I know, but I wasn't with him long enough for him to be. 0.99

07:26:35 I'd still have sex with a woman who did that.

07:26:38 I mean, I can't help it sometimes. 0.97

07:26:41 I don't sleep, you know, menopause.

07:26:43 Like, I'd date a girl who has, what's the thing where they just curse or whatever?

07:26:47 Oh, the Tourette's. 0.96

07:26:49 Tourette's.

07:26:49 I could get, I would accept Tourette's.

07:26:51 I'm a very accommodating man.

07:26:53 Yeah. 1.00

07:26:54 So Tourette's, you know, she's calling me the N-word and shit, and she's not even a black woman. 1.00

07:26:59 Oh, my God. 1.00

07:27:00 I might enjoy that a little bit.

07:27:02 Oh, my God.

07:27:03 You know.

07:27:04 All right.

07:27:05 All right.

07:27:05 I have to find his.

07:27:06 All right.

07:27:07 Well, take your time.

07:27:08 We'll continue on.

07:27:09 We'll continue on with the notes.

07:27:11 Let's see here.

07:27:15 You think age gap related.

07:27:17 Here, I'll let you focus, and I'll come back to your notes. 0.91

07:27:19 We got Jenny.

07:27:20 Actually, Jenny.

07:27:22 Yeah.

07:27:22 Jenny. 1.00

07:27:23 Jenny.

07:27:23 Yeah. 1.00

07:27:23 Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, uh, stupid song. Um, not your name that nevermind. 1.00

07:27:29 Don't worry about it. She's South Korean. Yeah. Uh, 1.00

07:27:35 you almost died of three different cancers with a 16% chance to still be here 1.00

07:27:40 and you can no longer sit idly by and listen to the crap. 1.00

07:27:43 Those two Armenians said this. So you sent this in a while ago, I guess. 0.99

07:27:47 Yeah. Um, wait, so you had three different cancers. What were the cancers?

07:27:51 All at one time. I went in and they found out that everything that made me a female was, the way the doctor put it is that it was waging war on my body.

07:28:06 Okay, what are the...

07:28:08 So, I don't have the technical names for them, but it was like uterine cancer, it was like my fallopian tube, and partial labia.

07:28:21 labia cancer it was on the inside and on the outside yes yes my organization advocates

07:28:27 for labial cancer survivors okay um you said you were once a degenerate woman married to a

07:28:36 degenerate man your first husband after over a decade together claimed he was bipolar he had

07:28:41 been locked up in facilities for multiple days on multiple occasions keep that in mind

07:28:45 um and then we already talked about you meeting your current husband while out on a date with

07:28:52 your ex-husband wait hold on really quick i because i never finished this the quick timeline

07:28:55 here yes okay so you're dating your first husband for like 10 years or something right

07:29:01 16 altogether yeah yeah and then excuse me and then you um met while still with but towards the

07:29:11 end of the relationship with you met your current husband while you were out on a date with your

07:29:16 ex-husband um but then there was a period of time where you racked up like 40 bodies or something

07:29:21 like that not quite i my my body count might be okay well 30 um yeah okay the number doesn't

07:29:28 matter okay 30 to 40 you racked up 30 to 40 not in the time between just my husband and my ex-husband

07:29:35 Okay, you racked up 30 then.

07:29:37 It's like all together.

07:29:39 No, but you said prior to your husband, your body count was seven.

07:29:43 Yeah, let's say seven to eight.

07:29:45 Okay, so I'm not super focused, hyper focused on like the exact number.

07:29:49 It's more, let's just say it's 30, right?

07:29:51 Yes.

07:29:51 30.

07:29:52 You could say it was 10 before.

07:29:53 I racked up 20 with him.

07:29:55 And then I racked up more bodies with my husband.

07:30:00 Was he pimping you?

07:30:01 No, he was not pimping me.

07:30:04 Found it.

07:30:04 You found it?

07:30:05 okay uh can i just tell you i'll let you type it okay i'll let you type it ready are you a good

07:30:12 typer who's a fast typer can somebody do it me i can do it okay all right okay hi i am on the

07:30:23 whatever podcast right now i shared the story of our date i did not share any private information

07:30:35 or details about you i wanted to ask if or sorry hold on skip the i wanted to ask part

07:30:42 i i'm not going to share your name or anything like that but they wanted to know

07:30:50 the host wanted to know why you ended the date better yet

07:31:01 better yet

07:31:04 can the host

07:31:07 Brian call you

07:31:09 and you can explain it on the show

07:31:11 but we will accept

07:31:13 just the written

07:31:15 explanation best regards 0.85

07:31:17 it's a long ass tag 0.69

07:31:21 did you get it though 0.69

07:31:22 I'm on explanation

07:31:24 I know it was a little better

07:31:26 I said hey I'm on the whatever podcast right now

07:31:29 I shared the story of our day

07:31:30 i didn't share any private details about you i won't share your name but they wanted to know

07:31:34 why you ended the date better yet can the host brian call you and you can explain it on the show

07:31:39 wait hold on let me hide that from the one time ago

07:31:42 uh i'm on the whatever podcast right now wait can i read your text go for it i don't care yeah go for

07:31:49 it i'm terribly sorry i'm not interested anymore wow can i ask why you can have just told me before

07:31:57 bothered to get ready that's really unfair and i'm besides myself why would you do this as if i

07:32:02 catfished you wow you know these are just all your texts in a row um he didn't respond to you you know

07:32:07 all my friends warned me about dating a cop you seem different you knew my age i'm not fat and 0.99

07:32:12 ugly it's so disrespectful what you did you really should be ashamed of yourself to be honest it's 0.74

07:32:19 your loss you have no idea have a nice life peace sign okay hey i'm on the whatever podcast right 0.91

07:32:26 now i shared the story of our date i didn't share any private details about you i won't share your

07:32:29 name but they wanted to know why you ended the date better yet can the host brian call you and

07:32:35 you can explain it in the show but we will accept the written explanation i don't know about except

07:32:41 um okay i sent it it's like having your big brother i sent it okay wait should i send it

07:32:48 i feel like it needs to be edited that last part should i send a voice memo yes you send a voice

07:32:54 memo because yes from a guy yes from you all right here we go he'll respond wait i have to

07:33:01 tap and it's not just a press one time wait tap and hold to record yeah she probably didn't update

07:33:10 i just have a i'm just like a one press in it okay

07:33:13 i have to go into the thing and then go to audio wait i don't even know what to say i'm nervous

07:33:20 i'm so nervous you started all of this you know um hi it's brian from the whatever podcast

07:33:28 hey what's up uh this is brian from the whatever podcast so dude i'm i think i might be on your

07:33:37 side but i'm so intrigued by this entire story of you know the going on the date and then uh

07:33:44 you dipped look dude i've been catfished i get it i've been there we want to hear but she told

07:33:49 us one side. We want to hear your side. By the way, we haven't, you know, we haven't shared any

07:33:54 details. I know this is probably super fucking weird. It's like midnight right now. And you're

07:33:59 probably like arresting some fucking drug dealers and shit. Uh, by the way, um, sorry, this is like 0.99

07:34:06 a run on voice message I would send to my mom or actually no, my mom would send to me. But anyways,

07:34:12 dude, I'm on your side. I will defend you. If you're willing to do a call in, we can do a call

07:34:16 If you just want to send a text message, we're not going to say your name.

07:34:19 We're going to keep it, you know, private.

07:34:21 We just want the deets. 0.98

07:34:22 We want the details because this poor woman is, she's been suffering for years, wondering why. 1.00

07:34:29 Did she smell bad? 1.00

07:34:30 Did she smell bad? 0.94

07:34:32 Did she, you know, is it her tick? 0.98

07:34:36 Because I think she has a tick. 0.54

07:34:38 Did she, was she catfishing?

07:34:42 anyways um subscribe youtube.com slash whatever all right oh wait did it go all right i'm sending

07:34:52 it all right okay all right um did you press keep keep yeah because you know it goes underneath

07:35:01 there keep you sent it and then it goes keep okay oh i don't know i got it keep it sent i guess

07:35:07 it sends him yeah okay all right all right all right oh that's gonna be interesting just no

07:35:12 guys people in the chat are like just call him we can't bump up i feel like one it's a crime

07:35:18 technically because um uh what's it called uh why you're tapping you you can't record a yeah

07:35:27 you have to disclose you need to yeah in california you need permission you gotta disclose

07:35:31 okay so uh wait i had a question though

07:35:37 for me or were we finishing up i think we had wait okay what was it so how long was the time

07:35:44 period were you putting up the bodies before you land finally ended up with the your current husband

07:35:51 i would say about 12 years

07:35:53 there's a you met your now husband and which husband are you talking about brian 12 years

07:36:05 the second 12 years okay but you were asking did you respond no don't don't don't don't 0.99

07:36:10 don't we we got cameras oh yeah don't don't you can see it yeah we can see it in the fucking 0.93

07:36:17 don't don't yeah here keep your camera facing away from the cameras okay so now what brian 0.98

07:36:23 um okay your second husband what was the time between first husband and second husband oh what

07:36:34 was the time yes about four days four days wait until you did he respond not yet oh okay i'll

07:36:46 let you know all right like from the moment that just my husband my ex-husband and i had to blow up

07:36:54 to when i moved in with my husband was there any crossover was there any crossover with your second

07:37:00 husband okay so from the moment you broke up with your first husband to the point that you became

07:37:08 monogamous exclusive with your second uh second husband now husband what was that period of time

07:37:14 About four days.

07:37:15 So you're telling me.

07:37:16 Like a week.

07:37:18 Whoa, whoa, wait.

07:37:18 Hold on.

07:37:19 But you're telling me you done put up 30 bodies in a four-day period then?

07:37:23 No.

07:37:24 Wait, wait.

07:37:25 No, you.

07:37:26 Wait, wait.

07:37:26 Hold on.

07:37:27 You said after your first husband that you put up 30 bodies after you broke up with your first husband.

07:37:36 No, no, no.

07:37:38 Did she not say that?

07:37:38 No.

07:37:40 No.

07:37:40 She said that.

07:37:41 What I said was. 1.00

07:37:42 You said that shit. 1.00

07:37:42 From 19. 1.00

07:37:43 Jenny on the block. 1.00

07:37:46 You said that shit. 1.00

07:37:47 From 19 to 21, I racked up a good, no, it's probably more about 10, Brian. 1.00

07:37:53 First it's seven.

07:37:55 You're talking 30 plus years ago.

07:37:57 Okay, but fine, 10.

07:37:58 And then you met your husband. 0.82

07:37:59 And then I met my husband, and then we were together maybe two years, and that's when stuff started going D-Gen downhill really fast. 0.99

07:38:11 so while you were with your husband you're fucking other men and women yes and then after you in that 0.99

07:38:20 four day time period did you fuck any other men besides your current husband no okay that explains 1.00

07:38:26 everything i guess okay no you said once i got with him it was you had labia cancer yeah and 0.99

07:38:31 they took half of one side yes if you know someone with labia cancer call this number 1.00

07:38:41 It's fucked up, man. 1.00

07:38:42 It's super fucked up. 1.00

07:38:44 And it's its own surgery, too. 1.00

07:38:45 While you were in recovery, you were hitting the morphine button and laughing.

07:38:49 At you.

07:38:50 With these harlots.

07:38:52 You were scared to watch the crucible, Andrew, when you got home because you knew Andrew was going to make you laugh.

07:38:58 Because, I guess, surgery, you can't laugh.

07:39:00 It's bad.

07:39:01 No.

07:39:01 You went back for the second surgery where the doc gave you a radical hysterectomy.

07:39:06 Went into your legs to remove lymph nodes.

07:39:09 16% chance of making it and you made it I did I did and it's because of the whatever podcast

07:39:15 it's the recovery was that and the crucible and that's no joke yes hey can we get guys guys I

07:39:21 know we're joking around and stuff can we get some w's in the chat yes she had three different

07:39:27 cancers and she 16% chance of making it and she from my perspective I know this is probably isn't 0.98

07:39:34 consistent with the medical literature she had one of the worst forms of cancer yes there is

07:39:40 the labia cancer but i think that's the worst there is of course you do because they gotta 0.97

07:39:45 take the labia right of course fucked up yeah yes but 16 chance of making it and she's on the 0.99

07:39:51 whatever podcast today yeah let's go w's in chat for beating cancer fuck cancer let's go okay that's 0.99

07:39:59 my people in the chat though kelly one of the first people to send money in that's my girl 0.99

07:40:04 Oh, that's too late.

07:40:05 Andrew and the Crucible, and the Crucible Crusader, and Bojo Matzi, all of those are my people.

07:40:12 People, they're your people.

07:40:14 I love them people.

07:40:16 Well, okay, if it doesn't happen tonight.

07:40:17 But he's usually like out late.

07:40:19 You know, their hours are crazy, so you never know.

07:40:21 So you never know.

07:40:22 Okay, keep us posted.

07:40:23 We'll do a check-in, you know, hopefully before the end of the show.

07:40:27 But then if after the show you hear from him.

07:40:30 I'll let you know.

07:40:31 We'll do like an update, you know.

07:40:33 like i'll just if if he's willing to share you know okay uh we got heather chad well well

07:40:42 chad well yes uh okay so you did vh1s rock of love with brett michaels all three seasons

07:40:48 charm school with sharon osborne i love money i love money yes i probably saw that but i don't

07:40:56 remember yeah that was the co-ed it was all like the um the like rock of love i love new york

07:41:06 they threw all the all of the us wild ones down in mexico and we did challenges for a quarter

07:41:12 million dollars flavor i feel like the women who got brett michaels way better deal than the flavor

07:41:19 Flav

07:41:20 you know what I mean

07:41:23 well they all got nicknames too if you notice

07:41:25 and I think Ray J's

07:41:28 show as well they did nicknames

07:41:30 but we didn't have nicknames which was cool 1.00

07:41:31 I think one or two girls 0.99

07:41:34 kept their stage names

07:41:35 but we just had our regular names

07:41:37 but you're

07:41:39 single by choice

07:41:40 yes I'm peaceful by choice

07:41:44 just

07:41:44 was that voice note

07:41:48 is that is he gonna be is that like a voice note that would upset somebody no i'm just realizing i

07:41:55 sent a cop no he's a cop i feel like cops have good humor well wait yeah and he can literally

07:42:02 just look you up and be like he's legit this is his voice you know he can look you up immediately 0.97

07:42:08 and no i would feel i would be a bit upset you know what shit well if he is then he's not going 0.65

07:42:13 to respond right i'm on your side dude something happened and i don't think you're wrong for what 0.99

07:42:20 happened what i don't think it's look i don't know it sucks you know it sucks but he shouldn't 0.96

07:42:29 it was not it was not nice it was no it was rude it sucks every but he could have ghosted you at 0.98

07:42:36 home yeah i walked home from the restaurant yeah that's crazy oh they drove there together he drove 0.61

07:42:44 two out wait but the other thing is he drove two hours he drove like two yeah two hours because

07:42:49 where he worked you know that's what and he was in his 30s like around 37 if i'm a 30 year old

07:42:54 was he bald no no i just saw his photo he's hot as yeah ripped maybe he had he had um cold feet 0.99

07:43:04 he got cold feet he was like he was probably thinking i'm gonna go fuck this hottie hottie 1.00

07:43:11 milf he was probably thinking he was thinking with his head like not the right head though he 0.99

07:43:17 was thinking with that head down there and let me tell you what man sometimes a man you know you see

07:43:22 a woman and you're like man should i really do this you know it's like real crazy man i tell you 1.00

07:43:26 what man it's crazy man sometimes you think you want to fuck but you don't actually want to fuck 1.00

07:43:31 when you get down to business, you know what I mean? 1.00

07:43:34 He's Hispanic. 1.00

07:43:35 He doesn't talk like that. 1.00

07:43:37 No, no.

07:43:39 That's just me.

07:43:40 That's just me.

07:43:41 That's like very high desert.

07:43:44 High desert. 1.00

07:43:45 No, but I feel like shit. 1.00

07:43:48 Like if I'm driving two hours for some pussy, 1.00

07:43:52 you might as well get... 1.00

07:43:54 Were you, like, if he didn't do that, 1.00

07:43:56 would you have fucked? 0.99

07:43:57 No, I wasn't. 0.99

07:43:58 I had no intention.

07:43:59 How are you going to drive two hours 1.00

07:44:01 To not get pussy though 1.00

07:44:03 You know what I mean 0.99

07:44:03 Like chat 1.00

07:44:04 Are you driving two hours to not get pussy 1.00

07:44:07 I have had dates 1.00

07:44:09 With a lot of men

07:44:11 That have traveled from San Diego

07:44:13 That have traveled two plus hours

07:44:15 To meet me

07:44:17 So

07:44:18 And we went to like the most expensive restaurant

07:44:21 I got some crazy stories

07:44:23 Like really ridiculous stories

07:44:25 I am not

07:44:26 I mean even I'm shocked 1.00

07:44:28 20 minutes if pussy isn't on the table 1.00

07:44:30 I'm going home 1.00

07:44:32 I'm not going

07:44:34 oh my god

07:44:35 well one guy

07:44:37 there was a guy that came from San Diego

07:44:40 that came from San Diego

07:44:41 want me to tell you the story quickly

07:44:45 interesting

07:44:46 give us the quick version

07:44:47 it was like about two and a half hours

07:44:50 he drove

07:44:50 he's like some big baller from Philadelphia

07:44:52 divorced guy or whatever

07:44:54 like 46 years old

07:44:57 or something like that so we met at um at like a Ruth's Chris or something like one of these

07:45:02 higher end steakhouses he was a little late I was at the bar having my martini and then he came in

07:45:08 had another martini with me we sat down to eat and um and we were sitting at a booth so sitting

07:45:15 very close to me definitely not not really my staying a little bit short uh very flashy like

07:45:20 the glasses the Louis Vuitton all that kind of stuff so um we're I'm not into that the brands

07:45:26 so like we're talking and talking and talking about dating that's usually the first conversation

07:45:31 right oh how's dating going blah blah yeah so he starts telling me about these smoking hot chicks

07:45:38 that he met he goes yeah so I'm like so how you doing have you met people he goes yeah I met this

07:45:43 one smoking hot see when he told me smoking hot I knew it was all over like from that you know

07:45:49 come on a date with me when I'm like towering over you in my highest heels like I could squash you

07:45:57 This isn't as fun as the cop story.

07:45:59 Smoking hot.

07:46:00 I prefer the cop story.

07:46:02 It gets better.

07:46:04 So then he asks me, so do you normally date younger men?

07:46:09 He's like 46 or 47.

07:46:11 He's not that, like, dude, you have one foot in, you're not that young.

07:46:15 So we're sitting there, like, we're talking back and forth.

07:46:18 Yeah, and he says, so how about you?

07:46:21 I said, oh, you know, I go on dates.

07:46:22 Like, oh, what's the youngest?

07:46:24 I said, it's not really important, you know.

07:46:26 and he was dying to know so i said well if you really have to know i said i don't know i'm like

07:46:31 26 ish a couple years ago and um he's like 26 and he started getting you know men get they

07:46:39 fluff up like pigeons they their feathers they start you know getting all distant and i said

07:46:45 yeah and they um they send me pictures too he's like really kind of pictures i said you know like

07:46:51 pictures and he's like um so what do you mean pictures i said you know like pictures of their

07:46:59 i'm not going to say the word what i said to him you know of their body parts he's like really

07:47:04 how did like people that really happened so i could see him he was like i could leave right now

07:47:09 i said you know what that's cool you can leave if you want i can pay for my own dinner i don't need

07:47:16 to pay for my dinner so then i could see him reeling it back in his brain oh my god who the 0.77

07:47:21 hell cares then he's like okay babe whatever but the next night like you're you like you're telling

07:47:27 no but you're telling me about you're saying like oh getting naked so that he's like i thought that

07:47:32 would have turned him off and then he sends me a message um i want to see you again and next time

07:47:37 we're going to be naked in bed or something like that we're both going to be naked the cop story

07:47:41 is way better. No, but I'm saying it's like the same

07:47:43 stupid, but you had to be there. 0.99

07:47:46 Somebody says something weird 1.00

07:47:47 on a date. It was nastier.

07:47:49 What's going on in the chat over there?

07:47:51 What are they saying?

07:47:53 God, he knows.

07:47:56 Yeah, so...

07:47:57 Nothing yet, so...

07:47:59 It is peculiar.

07:48:01 Drove two hours, all the

07:48:03 details you shared,

07:48:04 ten minutes in the car,

07:48:07 and then changes his mind.

07:48:11 The question you have to ask yourself is, would a catfish admit that they catfished somebody?

07:48:16 Of course, the answer is no.

07:48:18 Now, you say you didn't.

07:48:20 It's possible maybe the pictures weren't.

07:48:22 You're welcome to look at the whole history of our talking, and you could see all the pictures that went back and forth.

07:48:27 And, yeah, there's no catfishing.

07:48:30 I've never catfished anybody.

07:48:31 Was he fit?

07:48:32 I believe you.

07:48:33 Fit?

07:48:34 Yes, he's ripped.

07:48:35 He's going to be shredded.

07:48:37 Without showing the camera, I'll take a look at the pictures.

07:48:39 Okay. 0.99

07:48:41 Damn, you got to be down bad, though. 1.00

07:48:44 Here. 1.00

07:48:47 That's one picture. 0.98

07:48:47 No fucking way. 0.99

07:48:49 Yes! 1.00

07:48:49 Is that not crazy?

07:48:51 Why are you surprised?

07:48:54 Are there more photos?

07:48:56 Yeah, there's more photos, I'm sure.

07:48:58 Okay, chat.

07:48:59 I'll describe.

07:49:02 Good looking guy.

07:49:03 Very lean.

07:49:05 I don't know if he might be on gear, but he's muscular.

07:49:11 Like, he's muscular.

07:49:13 Big.

07:49:14 He looks like, how tall was he?

07:49:16 Because we both work out, so we had that in common.

07:49:18 He is probably like, uh-huh, what?

07:49:21 No, we both work out, so we would talk about our workouts and stuff like that, you know.

07:49:25 He works out in a different way.

07:49:27 Well, he's a man.

07:49:28 I'm 59 years old.

07:49:29 It's a little different, you know.

07:49:31 Very different.

07:49:32 Right, but we both, yeah, when I go to the gym five days a week.

07:49:35 This guy has a six-pack, and he's a beefcake. 1.00

07:49:38 This is a fucking beefcake. 1.00

07:49:40 anyways yeah that's a good looking dude holy bro how old was he i believe he was like 30 1.00

07:49:47 he looks mid-30s yeah like he looks young he looks like young he does oh fuck man 0.99

07:49:52 oh i can show you all my that's a good he's a good looking beefcake holy fuck we are so cooked 1.00

07:50:01 when beefcake 37 year old beefcake cops are driving two hours you know what it might be 0.99

07:50:08 california i feel like was it was this um blm time oh fuck i should not have brought no it was um 0.96

07:50:15 because there was a lot of people were hating on cops uh you know back in 2020 2021 cops had to do 1.00

07:50:22 some crazy shit for pussy it was cops had to do some crazy shit to get pussy because last year 0.99

07:50:28 everybody hate on cops 2021 oh sorry i got it i got excited there i'm just saying he's he's a 1.00

07:50:35 fucking good-looking dude that's a beefcake 37 going for 59 58 year old at the time 1.00

07:50:42 driving two hours for some 59 year old mate not not even guaranteed pussy maybe 59 year old pussy 1.00

07:50:51 it's so over boys if that no this is actually 1.00

07:50:59 that guy look that guy's better looking than me he's ripped i'm chubby i'm fat i'm overweight 0.98

07:51:08 i hope he responds and he's like brian show the fucking pictures 0.98

07:51:13 he's a good looking he's a beefcake boys trust me take my word for it literally could be like 0.99

07:51:20 calvin klein model are you sure it was two hours drive yeah because he lives so you know where

07:51:26 harupa valley is i don't care where don't tell me where it is no just he drove to that area it's

07:51:32 about two hours away from where i live yeah where do you live that's like she's telling me about

07:51:37 cork i don't fucking know um okay so anyways really well it's close to riverside okay i know 0.71

07:51:45 riverside he drove two hours yeah we have 35 year old beefcake handsome looking dudes cop 0.99

07:51:57 so he's because it's me that's why driving two hours to maybe maybe get some 59 year old pussy 1.00

07:52:07 how the great have fallen how the mighty have fallen damn men are down bad like 1.00

07:52:17 i don't know if i'm just built different and look 0.99

07:52:23 there's some women i've had sex with that i regret 1.00

07:52:32 i have never driven two hours to maybe get some 50s or i spit some 50 year old pussy 1.00

07:52:40 have you ever have you ever been with and i'm not as good looking as that guy with a 50 year old 0.99

07:52:46 woman i've it's a yes or no exactly so there you go i'm missing out on the 50 that's all i need to

07:52:55 i look when i was 32 i did date a really hot 43 year old wajen

07:53:04 she was she was she was good let me tell you no kids either no kids either you know so she

07:53:13 doesn't have that you know the the um she she uh you got you get certain stressors when you have 0.96

07:53:20 kids you know causes some wrinkles and shit so she not only 40 43 right but if you don't have kids 0.61

07:53:27 in your 43 that's like 39 that's like 49 39 excuse me look i'm just saying 1.00

07:53:36 there's been once or twice i've had sex with a chubby woman i'll admit it 0.95

07:53:43 a bit chubby i ain't talking obese i ain't never been with no obese woman 1.00

07:53:47 but once or twice i did fuck like a girl who's a bit thicker you know a little big not thick i 1.00

07:53:53 guess you could say chubby right and sometimes uh a single tear comes out my eye when i think about 0.97

07:53:59 that i can't but i have never been ripped because there was a point where i was in good i was

07:54:07 not as big as that guy but i was in good shape you know six pack abs right but leaner leaner he was

07:54:14 he was a beefcake 1.00

07:54:15 never drove two hours for some 59 year old pussy 1.00

07:54:21 that's my type so I usually 1.00

07:54:22 go out with guys that have that look

07:54:24 you know body type

07:54:26 this I wow

07:54:30 I know shocking huh

07:54:31 I'm an interesting

07:54:34 person though so you don't really know me

07:54:36 so it's hard for you to

07:54:38 gauge

07:54:39 I'm a pretty spectacular human being

07:54:42 yeah

07:54:43 You're like surprised

07:54:45 It's not always about age

07:54:47 You know

07:54:47 I know 0.97

07:54:50 And you get a lot of these young bucks 0.85

07:54:55 Yeah mostly young

07:54:56 You get a lot of these young bucks on the dating apps 0.98

07:54:59 You said it's Hinge 1.00

07:55:00 When I was on Hinge

07:55:02 I mean just in general 0.84

07:55:04 Women are attracted to me 0.79

07:55:05 In life in general 0.99

07:55:08 But for now

07:55:10 This wild buck has to roam free

07:55:11 or he will die or he will die or he will die wow that is um

07:55:21 i'm actually at a loss for words i'm at a loss for words if you saw my album that i have you 1.00

07:55:30 would really be at a loss for words are are cougar or older women really just able to fuck 0.90

07:55:40 30 year old dudes is that is yes yeah actually yeah it's a because i worry i worry when i'm in 0.99

07:55:47 my late 50s that i might struggle to fuck women in their 30s no you'll just have to spend more 0.99

07:55:55 like you'll have to spoil the girls more the older you get the more you got to just spoil 0.99

07:55:59 if you want like a 20 something but do you guys have to spoil the 30 year olds not not really 0.99

07:56:04 no they take me out no they take me out shit man no see they take care of me see this is 0.99

07:56:10 this is one of the black pills this is one of the black pills that men have to accept we think that 1.00

07:56:17 women hit the wall thank you we think that okay once a while like uh oh she used to do porn her

07:56:25 life is over you have to understand yet women especially good-looking women i don't know why 1.00

07:56:33 said that but women land on their feet they're like fucking cats women are like cats they could 1.00

07:56:39 just be fucking heroin addicts and then three years later they're married to some nice little 1.00

07:56:46 simpy guy and they and dudes don't want to fuck like y'all really privileged like i'm just thinking 1.00

07:56:53 like it's gonna be like i'm gonna have to trick at 59 to get some 30 year old pussy you just get 1.00

07:57:01 beefcake 30 you just get it you just get it left and right back to back female privilege 1.00

07:57:07 natalia says female privilege it's true yeah natalia where's you know what natalia

07:57:13 show me i need i need some perks here i'll know where i'm going with that whatever okay um okay

07:57:20 um where was i let me finish up the notes uh you're single by choice heather why is that

07:57:28 Well, I just don't like the titles anymore.

07:57:32 Like boyfriend, like I'll never have a boyfriend again.

07:57:34 How long have you been celibate?

07:57:35 Boyfriend, girlfriend.

07:57:36 Oh.

07:57:37 So you're saying if you and me, we dated, I wouldn't be your boyfriend?

07:57:40 No.

07:57:41 Boyfriends are for high school and college.

07:57:44 You're either a partner, you're either single or married, or you're a partner towards marriage.

07:57:50 Okay.

07:57:50 That's just my opinion.

07:57:52 Right.

07:57:53 Yeah.

07:57:54 Now, let's talk about more of these age gap relationships for you.

07:57:57 Okay.

07:57:57 you're very versed in them as you write because since you've been single

07:58:02 what's what's the youngest guy you've dated 25 and that's not when you were 25 that's now

07:58:14 basically like that's like recently yeah within the last couple of years yeah so okay say when

07:58:19 so you're 59 when you were 55 say you were dating a 25 year old yeah when i was 55 was around the

07:58:28 time i got divorced well don't let's not so i wasn't dating no you understand what i'm getting

07:58:33 at here i was i mean yeah i was dating well it's 56 57 okay whatever yeah it's all the same it's

07:58:38 okay you were dating 50 you were dating how long were you seeing the 25 year old no i just went

07:58:44 on a date with him i wasn't dating i wasn't like what's the youngest guy you had sex with then 0.99

07:58:49 25 so it was or that was a different 25 year old yeah damn bro sometimes it's even hard as a 37 1.00

07:59:00 year old trying to fuck a 25 year old and we got this is bullshit this is some female privilege 1.00

07:59:05 bullshit sometimes you gotta hustle a little bit as a guy in mid late 30s trying to fuck a mid 1.00

07:59:12 20s sometimes you know and here she is just fucking 57 59 just 25 yeah 25 you go younger 1.00

07:59:21 right you could get younger if you want oh easy i have gone out with younger but there was no 0.98

07:59:28 intimacy there was no knowledge no there was no intimacy you know what but we did we went out a

07:59:34 lot we just became really it was like a herald and mod thing was like we became really really good 0.54

07:59:38 friends um but there was no intimacy the problem is younger men like that they kind of fall for you

07:59:45 and then it's it's kind of you know you don't want to let them dance it's a us men are the real 0.98

07:59:50 romantics we'll fall in love bullshit with a post-menopausal woman we will fall in love with 1.00

07:59:57 a woman but it doesn't have anything to do with your testosterone she ain't got no eggs anymore 1.00

08:00:02 We'll fall in love with a woman who ain't got eggs, but like a younger woman who's dating 1.00

08:00:08 an older man, she wants that fucker's money. 1.00

08:00:11 She wants perks and money. 1.00

08:00:15 We're the real romantics.

08:00:17 We are so romantic.

08:00:20 Some of you are.

08:00:22 Some of you are.

08:00:25 And they need that. 1.00

08:00:26 Women are like cats. 1.00

08:00:27 They land on their feet. 1.00

08:00:28 Yeah, that's a true story. 1.00

08:00:30 Women land on their feet. 1.00

08:00:31 we grow they hit the wall but they still they just it's always easy for them a 50 a 59 year old 1.00

08:00:40 59 year old woman she has more sexual options than a than the chat than that beefcake you 1.00

08:00:53 showed me probably more guys want to fuck you than girls want to fuck beef mr beefcake 1.00

08:01:00 It's possible. 1.00

08:01:01 Police.

08:01:02 Now, is he, what, is he, he's like a city police or what?

08:01:09 Is he a state trooper?

08:01:11 No.

08:01:12 Highway patrol?

08:01:13 I think he might.

08:01:14 I'm just curious.

08:01:15 I think he might be a highway patrol or a sheriff, actually.

08:01:19 Oh, sheriff.

08:01:20 Okay, county.

08:01:20 He's for the county.

08:01:22 I'm trying to remember his name anymore.

08:01:25 Let's see here.

08:01:26 Wait, he tried to match with you a few times, finally caved, wasn't your type,

08:01:29 ended up being very nice through text he was very respectful very that's why i entertained

08:01:35 going out with him otherwise i would not have for sure but he was very nice he was actually

08:01:40 really respectful through the whole it wasn't he wasn't rude he wasn't okay he wasn't like rude

08:01:46 sexually or like there no nothing no no he was very wait oh the reason why i said it's not such

08:01:52 a bad thing is it obviously is going to sting because it is pretty blunt and you might say

08:01:59 yeah just do just have dinner with me and spend one hour on the other on the flip side

08:02:06 saved you a bit of time i think maybe the rude thing was he drove you it could have been like

08:02:13 maybe maybe he could have been like hey i'm gonna get you an uber no he could have just like came to

08:02:18 my house and made the decision right there but he was like oh you smell really good he was like

08:02:23 liked what i was wearing i was all tan it was summertime you know what i don't know i don't

08:02:28 know I don't I don't I don't know you know what but haven't y'all been in situations haven't y'all

08:02:34 been in situations where like you were feeling the guy and then it changed yes but I would never

08:02:41 I would never leave someone like that that's so freaking like you could have sat there with me

08:02:45 and like had a glass of wine we didn't have to have a full-on blown four-course dinner it's not 0.97

08:02:49 even I don't give a shit about that I think about that but like you could have been respectful sat

08:02:54 there had a glass of wine with me and talked and and and just and then after that and then after 0.99

08:02:58 that said you know what i'm not really feeling it or whatever like have some fucking class 0.96

08:03:02 you know what i mean i'm gonna agree rick and rude at that point just take an hour do the dinner 0.98

08:03:10 that's the i'm gonna agree just do the dinner just suck it up even if it's yeah 0.57

08:03:15 conversation exactly from there it's the worst case scenario you don't have to see them again

08:03:22 right yeah easy peasy just respect that's all so whatever it was just weird because it was so

08:03:29 opposite of how he but hold on presented himself if i was on the sale say i met up with a girl

08:03:34 and then you know what though i'm a bit on the fence with it because

08:03:39 he wasn't like you might say what he did was rude but he wasn't he he texted you back and he said

08:03:47 i'm just not feeling it or whatever which is fine but you don't leave someone at a restaurant

08:03:52 want like you left me there i think the way he went about it was a bit whatever but i i actually

08:03:58 think okay do i want to like spend two hours trying to charm this girl who's like clearly

08:04:05 not into me or like for clearly out of his league from the perspective of she's not into me so 0.88

08:04:13 from my perspective would i prefer her to like i try to fucking charm her for two hours or like 0.77

08:04:21 she just tells me at the like she she stays for 10 minutes say we meet for the it's a kind of 1.00

08:04:27 different details stay for 10 minutes and then she's like uh you know what um the phone no we 0.99

08:04:34 have a fucking scary ass alien bug again fuck what the oh it's just a bee it's a what it's a 0.99

08:04:43 bee that's a big fucking bee holy shit i'm highly allergic to be don't worry i'll protect you it 1.00

08:04:48 will kill me you're fine i think um tiffany kill the bee do you know don't kill it oh she's 1.00

08:04:55 allergic i'll get it outside we need bees okay well then you better okay can you grab a cup 0.99

08:05:00 like an empty cup go be whisperer and get on that here and then if you need a piece of paper

08:05:07 i have one to do the little trick-a-roo okay i don't trust where was i oh no i was saying that

08:05:13 I would prefer 0.95

08:05:15 for the woman... Somebody telling you the truth from the get-go? 1.00

08:05:18 Yeah, like... I have stuck out

08:05:20 many, many dates. Just be careful of the tripod

08:05:21 leg there. And I wasn't really into them. And I'm like, oh, just chill.

08:05:24 Oh, do you see it?

08:05:25 Uh-huh. Boop!

08:05:27 Oh, you got it? Wait, there's a bunch.

08:05:29 There's the ramble on there. You know what? Just leave it.

08:05:32 Just leave it. Don't worry about it. Watch out behind

08:05:34 you, though. Watch out behind you. There's the tripod leg.

08:05:36 I would honestly...

08:05:38 Yeah, I'd rather... I'd rather have my time saved

08:05:41 and um he took my glass just ignore it ignore it ignore it don't worry i can't see it anybody 1.00

08:05:46 brown that makes okay okay okay just stop stop stop uh i would rather a woman just be like you 0.80

08:05:53 know what um maybe she could do something a woman could be like oh hey i gotta go or i don't know 0.97

08:06:00 fuck or right i would i rather her just be like hey listen it was really nice meeting you but i 0.99

08:06:06 know what are they gonna say you're ugly no they don't have to they don't have to like that's the 0.99

08:06:11 here's everything no no they don't have to be like here's everything that's wrong with you

08:06:14 they could they could do a rejection in like a let you down easy sort of way where it's just like

08:06:21 hey listen um i appreciate you taking the time to meet me but i'm just i'm not sure if it's like a

08:06:27 good connection and i just i'd rather save your time i hope you have a good night i honestly think

08:06:35 if i were to do that to a woman i'd be like maybe the girl if you really want to be a g

08:06:40 be like here i'll get i got the check 1.00

08:06:45 but um versus wasting two hours on a girl that already knows she doesn't like me 0.82

08:06:54 oh yeah yeah just fucking honestly for me but i'm weird just tell me i'd rather just 0.64

08:06:59 it might be more brutal to get that kind of rejection but just uh tell me okay 0.88

08:07:03 well karma you believe in astrology i do

08:07:08 that's the problem that's why he ghosted you no we didn't talk about astrology but i do believe in

08:07:15 it okay uh we're going to trees it's complicated you but you said didn't you say you were in a

08:07:23 relationship yeah you wrote it's complicated i was being petty because we're logging to each

08:07:29 other social media so you cheated on him no I didn't cheat on him I just I thought it was I was

08:07:36 being petty I wanted him to see that so you're together yeah okay uh there's not other guys in

08:07:44 the picture no you said weird experience dating a white man yes well what tells the story I

08:07:51 explained it earlier so he was a cool white guy you know he you know he owned a valet company you 0.52

08:07:59 know he was cool we dated after uh we dated for a few weeks and we end up we end up having sex

08:08:06 and i feel like you know i'm saying the cat was too good and you know i don't think that he 1.00

08:08:13 was used to dating like black women and you know we we fuck different you do yes black women fuck 1.00

08:08:21 different yes okay you see how we dance in comparison to white women we fuck like that 1.00

08:08:29 so the sex is different so i've had sex with um a couple black women what what there's different 1.00

08:08:39 types of black women you're right i fuck was she from santa barbara i fuck a bougie black woman 1.00

08:08:49 you're talking about are you you're talking about like hood rats and shit no because i'm not a hood 1.00

08:08:55 rat no i'm not saying you're hood i'm just saying like that you got you got like the atlanta black 1.00

08:09:00 women they fuck a certain way you got the st louis black women they fuck a certain way and then you 1.00

08:09:06 got like the la bitches like the compton bitches you know what i'm saying yeah a lot i would imagine 1.00

08:09:11 that the woman the black woman that you would date probably doesn't even want to be black in 1.00

08:09:15 the first place that's probably true so a lot of them asked me to do race play which i'm not 0.91

08:09:20 really comfortable with yeah that's crazy yeah did you do it of course not yes you did i did not do 0.99

08:09:26 it i would never do that to a black queen a black queen i would never do that shit no i don't know 0.99

08:09:34 uh i don't know i think i've only maybe been with like two or three dated or just six 1.00

08:09:42 um short term just sex i've never yeah sure well it was maybe two or three four times or whatever

08:09:50 never had a relationship with a black woman though but were you dating like 1.00

08:09:56 was it just pussy the same same pussy yeah they didn't they didn't want to be black they probably 1.00

08:10:02 just i don't know i i couldn't imagine you dating like i don't know i don't know we'll see we have 1.00

08:10:08 to do you like a dating show or something i don't know but listen so after we had sex he just he

08:10:14 just became so crazy was like texting me like every hour and just oh i'm thinking about you

08:10:20 and oh i'm just so super he kept saying i'm so super right now and i'm like what does that mean

08:10:25 and he would just like he i'm so my god i just can't get you off my mind and then like if i if

08:10:30 i couldn't like text him back he would just like so what's going on are you i'm just like what the

08:10:36 hell like you i put it on you huh like i don't get it and it just scared me because i did i thought 1.00

08:10:41 he was gonna like stalk me and kill me you know who fucks different quiet bitches yeah because 1.00

08:10:49 listen they come out of their shell in the bedroom like no no but uh like uh like uh a uh 1.00

08:10:56 shy

08:10:59 biology

08:11:01 student.

08:11:05 You know, like in college. 1.00

08:11:07 She's like, fucking glasses. 1.00

08:11:10 Shy. 1.00

08:11:13 They fuck different. 1.00

08:11:15 Okay. 1.00

08:11:15 All right.

08:11:17 Anyways, I'm just saying. 1.00

08:11:19 The shy women are the ones. 1.00

08:11:21 The quiet ones. 1.00

08:11:22 The loud women are. 1.00

08:11:27 The quiet ones you got to watch out for. 1.00

08:11:30 Okay.

08:11:31 All right.

08:11:32 Let's see what else. 1.00

08:11:34 Your jealous best friend topped your man off and stole the car he bought you. 0.99

08:11:40 You were out with a guy.

08:11:41 You were dating.

08:11:42 Your best friend was at the same venue.

08:11:43 She set you up to get the car stolen.

08:11:46 He had just bought you while you were out because she was jealous.

08:11:49 So you got robbed.

08:11:52 Pretty much.

08:11:53 You got GTA'd.

08:11:55 I got GTA'd.

08:11:56 Grand Theft Auto, they pulled you out of the car?

08:12:01 No, no, no.

08:12:01 So we were at a nightclub.

08:12:06 So the guy I was dating, he was pretty well-known.

08:12:09 You could say he was a celebrity.

08:12:11 So my best friend at the time, she, I don't know, like, so I've never been a user.

08:12:20 I've never been a gold digger.

08:12:21 I've always had my own, so I didn't date for money.

08:12:24 So she figured I was dating this guy

08:12:26 Like why you don't ask him for this

08:12:28 Why you ask him for that 1.00

08:12:28 I'm like shit 1.00

08:12:29 I just let him do what he wants to do 1.00

08:12:31 You know what I'm saying 1.00

08:12:31 Like I'm not going to ask him for shit 0.99

08:12:32 And so like she started going behind my back 1.00

08:12:37 And like asking him for shit 0.99

08:12:38 You know because she would like ask me for things 1.00

08:12:41 From him for her

08:12:41 And I wouldn't do it

08:12:42 So she started like 0.94

08:12:44 Screenshot texts

08:12:46 Because at the time

08:12:48 Like I was talking to other men

08:12:49 You know he was talking to other men

08:12:51 We weren't like super exclusive

08:12:52 too, because I just didn't really trust him like that, but she knew that, so she kind of, like,

08:12:57 was trying to sabotage our relationship, so, you know, she was, like, going behind her back,

08:13:02 talking to him, feeding him information, and then, so we went out, he was shooting music video,

08:13:09 I set my purse and my keys in the booth, because this was a place that we frequented, we knew the

08:13:14 owners, we knew the staff, I was cool to set my shit in the booth, so we went to go shoot the music

08:13:19 video you know i come back i'm not really even checking for my purse because i never had to do 0.58

08:13:23 that so at the end of the night i'm ready to go i can't find um can't find my purse can't find my 0.59

08:13:30 keys so she's helping she she's not even helping me look for my shit my other friend that i was 0.97

08:13:37 there was helping me look for my shit she's still there the club is closed she's like just watching 0.98

08:13:42 me and so oddly enough me and the guy i was dating at the time we were kind of at odds but it was 0.86

08:13:48 because of stuff that he was telling her but she felt some type of way because he was like hey i

08:13:53 still want you to come i want you to support me i want you to be in my video and we'll talk later

08:13:57 so i feel like she was more so just trying to watch our interaction because she was like surprised

08:14:03 that he was still like wait so she was fucking your boyfriend yeah he's he's yeah he ended up 0.90

08:14:09 telling me like later well he said she gave him some head so she um i guess she felt some type 0.98

08:14:15 boy because she thought she sabotaged us.

08:14:17 So who's the one who stole the car?

08:14:19 My best friend. The girl?

08:14:20 Oh, the girl stole the car. Yeah, he bought me the car.

08:14:23 Okay.

08:14:24 So he just bought me the car, yeah.

08:14:26 And he's now in jail for murder.

08:14:29 Yes. Who did he murder?

08:14:34 Allegedly his

08:14:35 nephew.

08:14:37 Wait, did he get convicted

08:14:39 or he's pending trial?

08:14:40 No, he got convicted.

08:14:43 Well, so it's not allegedly then.

08:14:44 Well, I mean.

08:14:46 Well, I got maybe innocent, maybe falsely convicted.

08:14:51 Well, yeah, but she was watching us the whole night.

08:14:54 Wait, he killed his nephew or what was it?

08:14:56 It was like a murder for hire, allegedly.

08:15:01 You put the hit out?

08:15:03 No, I didn't.

08:15:04 I didn't have a reason to.

08:15:05 I wasn't around when I was.

08:15:06 Wait, who did he put?

08:15:09 Allegedly hired someone to kill his nephew.

08:15:12 Oh, okay, so he didn't do it.

08:15:15 He allegedly hired someone else to do it.

08:15:18 That's what they say.

08:15:19 Nephew?

08:15:20 His nephew.

08:15:20 So he's a kinslayer.

08:15:23 Did the murder happen?

08:15:25 The murder happened.

08:15:26 So it wasn't attempted murder for hire.

08:15:28 It was murder for hire.

08:15:31 How much does that cost?

08:15:34 I don't know.

08:15:34 I don't do that type of thing.

08:15:36 There's a song by...

08:15:38 I don't know if it's Eminem.

08:15:42 i know some guys who would do that for a blunt or two it can be cheap you just get a crackhead 0.94

08:15:52 to do it just get a crackhead yeah damn i gotta up my security okay um uh let's see dating other 0.98

08:16:01 races cosmetic surgery we kind of talked about well the dating other races cosmetic surgery 0.98

08:16:05 so you got lipo bbl anything else just just the bbl were you already um

08:16:12 packing yes why the bbl then so you needed to pack more well i did this what was this like

08:16:21 2020 right so i've always had like my hips like these are my hips i've always had coke bottle

08:16:26 shape could you stand up just so people can see the and then uh yeah and so act

08:16:35 people that know me I've always had a nice shape so what happened was so and the relationship I was

08:16:41 in previous to the one I'm in now I was with him for about four and a half years and um it was like

08:16:47 a very toxic relationship no abuse or anything like that because I don't play like that but um

08:16:52 I gained weight so I had like a pudge and so yeah I had a fupa and so like women when we gain weight 1.00

08:17:02 like um hormonal imbalance like it that's where it goes and it's hard to get rid of if you're like 0.98

08:17:06 going through like you know just you're emotional and stuff like that so I wanted to do lipo so

08:17:13 back then like I just I feel like it was lack of knowledge at the time because that surgery was

08:17:18 trending so I feel like the doctor didn't really listen to what I wanted so all I really needed I

08:17:24 probably if I knew then what I knew now I probably would have just did lipo 360 because I didn't need 0.99

08:17:29 no more ass and the thing is this motherfucker keep growing so when i gain weight that's where 0.99

08:17:35 it goes that's where it goes so yeah for how long were you not allowed to sit what is that like 1.00

08:17:48 four weeks so you had to like lay down you sleep on your tummy you gotta sleep you can't sleep on 1.00

08:17:55 your back i slept on four weeks i slept on my side look most women can't sleep on their side 1.00

08:18:02 because a lot of women get fat added to the hips but see i i was able to because i had big hips so 1.00

08:18:07 i slept on my side but why uh you were already you know you already were packing 0.97

08:18:14 why more so like i said lack of knowledge so they were they were basically marketing

08:18:25 or selling or doing those procedures as like a total package so a lot of people who got that

08:18:30 procedure that year didn't know that okay you could just do lipo they were just they would

08:18:36 just sell it to you in a package they would do all so even though i would say hey like you know

08:18:40 i want like you know my natural shape i just want like you know the the shape or whatever

08:18:44 they're gonna just give you like a cookie cutter surgery you know what i'm saying so yeah if i

08:18:51 knew then what i do now i probably would just would have just did lipo 360 and i would have

08:18:55 been cool does it ever has it maneuvering through life through the world does it change

08:19:05 this will change like no do you have to

08:19:13 buy two seats no that's so funny tiffany my man made a joke he made a video and he was like

08:19:24 tiffany would he was like oh she needed about almost done tiffany almost done promise that

08:19:28 girl gracie that model gracie gracie bond oh yeah now she has to buy two seats i don't have to buy

08:19:35 yeah that's that's yeah great yeah i know you're talking about yeah

08:19:43 Okay, you say men are

08:19:45 Hold on

08:19:48 Disagreement, women's equality

08:19:50 But you'd like to get his take on a few things

08:19:52 I don't see much of it

08:19:53 So okay, what is the disagreement on women's equality?

08:19:57 I think we kind of touched on that

08:19:58 Like way earlier

08:20:00 Just, you know 1.00

08:20:01 But do women have equal rights? 1.00

08:20:04 Women do have equal rights

08:20:05 I can't think of anything that a man can do 0.97

08:20:08 That a woman can't do legally

08:20:09 But as far as equality 1.00

08:20:11 like for example i i could probably have a better education than you but if if we secure the same

08:20:18 job role you're probably you're probably going to get paid more or you're going to be respected

08:20:23 more in the workplace you know a lot of there are some men who will look at women as you know like

08:20:29 their their opinion doesn't matter as much than a man's opinion or you already have this preconceived

08:20:34 notion of this woman because of how she looks so she must not know what she's talking about or she

08:20:38 or she might not you know bring more to the table than this man you know so we're treated like that

08:20:44 okay in equal spaces and it's not fair uh the crucible andrew wilson just sent us a raid uh

08:20:52 thank you andrew for the raid appreciate it man hope you had a good stream i see mr i believe

08:20:56 that's mr e in the chat the enigmatic i believe that's mystery uh hey man thank you so much

08:21:03 appreciate you Andrew for the raid do we have an update on any message nothing shit they really do 0.60

08:21:10 not uh recap for the crucible joiners so uh she dates she's 59 she dates men in their 30s sometimes

08:21:19 in their 20s youngest she dated or I guess hooked up with was 25 and um she actually matched with

08:21:27 this beefcake of a cop and the cop who and he was in his mid-30s the cop drove two hours and then

08:21:36 but the weird thing is is that the cop after having spent about 10 minutes with her dipped

08:21:42 left like just wasn't feeling it whatever but she never got an answer as to why and so i

08:21:48 texted him on her phone and we're gonna see if we're gonna get a little if he's gonna give us

08:21:56 the the deets that would be cool uh okay finishing up your notes uh you say men are gold diggers

08:22:02 yes you got any cash on you i have my car in your in your purse my debit card yes no cat like cash

08:22:09 like paper cash anybody got cash you got cash you got cash you got cash cash on you cash on you you

08:22:17 got cash on you okay quick role reversal have you guys ever just had a guy who just gave you 1.00

08:22:22 money just because or did something for you just like i've heard sometimes women will be at gas 0.99

08:22:29 stations and a dude will just fill it up for the girl stuff like that you know have you had that 1.00

08:22:36 you've had that have you had the guy just not at the gas station not that but like something like

08:22:41 that or just here's money yeah absolutely really okay how much can you guys go get your cash and

08:22:50 give it to me no just for as a funny role reversal like uh-huh i've never done this um are you gonna

08:22:59 split your stream money with us don't worry about that we're all on our own time you're making the

08:23:06 minute and there's not a lot of tts's today and i blame you guys for that but what's tts mean uh 0.90

08:23:13 have we even gotten a fucking i don't even know if we've gotten a tts 0.94

08:23:18 what does that mean bro that's bad bro very beginning we got yeah did we wait let me just 0.98

08:23:29 look i think we got i got one t yo who's gonna pop a ball of champagne that's bad bro that's

08:23:36 really really that maybe pays for for tiffany's nose job at most well once all once your clippers

08:23:44 get going and it'll be good well instagram has me shadow banned no no they don't because i i see

08:23:52 all your stuff on on instagram because my friend sham was just on here by the way sham told me she

08:23:56 told me to tell you hi who sham sham the the the the trans friend the drag queen yeah oh okay sham

08:24:07 was fun she's awesome jam was uh yeah we've been friends for a long time let's see here tell you 0.97

08:24:12 hi we got one wait hold on bro what yikes all right tiffany you're fucking fired um one tts 0.99

08:24:26 one so w claim yeah only one tts holy fuck dude all right boys i'm uh ending the fucking whatever 1.00

08:24:34 podcast um all right never gonna see you guys again fuck off um but uh yeah no no shit yeah 1.00

08:24:41 you better not be shadow banned are you fucking serious i'm better not i'm like i'm like fucking 0.99

08:24:47 a week away from getting permabanned on tiktok i'm definitely shadow banned on tiktok shadow 0.98

08:24:54 banned on x on my main account um shadow banned on instagram no yeah it's bad facebook's doing

08:25:03 well facebook's doing well and where else do i post also took a hit on youtube i don't know

08:25:09 what's going on there's shit moving behind the scenes that i'm worried about um so anyways i

08:25:15 don't know um full moon by the way or well it was filming like a day or two ago okay men are gold 0.97

08:25:20 diggers will you give me cash i only got a i only got one tts i don't even know what the hell that

08:25:28 is give me your cash come on no the money all right i'll i'll send you a foot pic

08:25:34 i'm good come on come on no no money no no wait if i get what if i get that guy i'll give you a 0.99

08:25:43 foot picture though oh my god put that shit away um nice feet okay um men date women they can 0.99

08:25:52 manipulate that is so not true yes we get manipulated it is true women expectations 0.99

08:25:58 are too high during the dating phase you say want bills paid favors etc yes 1.00

08:26:03 i like you already uh it's okay to date multiple people at the same time yes date not fuck 0.81

08:26:11 erroneous erroneous so are you telling me that when you're trying to find someone that you have

08:26:20 their connection with yeah that you're only allowed to date one person dating does not mean

08:26:26 having sex yeah men don't do that did i say anything about what i'm allowed to do exactly

08:26:30 if i'm dating a woman i should be the only that's the delusion i should be it's the hypocrisy that

08:26:39 is that is the only one that's that's how you feel about yourself but i'm just gonna be honest

08:26:46 It's like if I'm single and I'm dating, I am trying to find that person that I have a connection with or that I like or that I can tolerate.

08:26:55 And I might need to go on a few dates this month to see who I'm interested in.

08:27:00 And I cannot feel any type of way if that man is also dating trying to find the same thing.

08:27:04 Now, once we become exclusive and we have an understanding that we want to get to know each other more or we're ready to become intimate, that's when things change because I don't play about my health.

08:27:16 That's why my body count is like it is

08:27:18 Because I spin the block on who I'm comfortable with

08:27:20 There's only a few people

08:27:22 That are willing to give you test results and stuff like that

08:27:24 I don't play about my health

08:27:25 Fair enough

08:27:26 Most men don't really like women

08:27:32 What does that mean?

08:27:33 You don't like women 1.00

08:27:34 You tolerate women 1.00

08:27:36 And you probably just 1.00

08:27:38 Get a woman when you need to get off

08:27:40 You act like you don't like women 0.87

08:27:42 I love women

08:27:44 When we came in, you did not speak to us. 1.00

08:27:47 Well, yeah, but we already established that was a race thing, okay? 0.93

08:27:49 No, but all jokes aside, you just, you just, you, you just, the way, the way you talk about women, it just, it just doesn't come off as you like women.

08:28:00 There are a lot of men.

08:28:01 I love women.

08:28:03 You love women. 1.00

08:28:04 Okay.

08:28:05 Can you, can I hear you say some nice things about women for once? 0.75

08:28:07 Okay. 1.00

08:28:08 Come on, let's go.

08:28:09 I hope you have good luck with your second BBL surgery.

08:28:14 reduction i'm happy that you you um you overcame the cancer i like your gold tooth

08:28:22 the this one right there uh heather you're you are so adorable thank you heather you're a blast

08:28:30 you you are um you you've got a effervescent nature to you that often you see hold on i'm

08:28:42 never mind um that was nice hard to be all the way nice you've got a nice uh energy to you thank

08:28:51 you or uh comrade you're russian you do not need any compliments from me you are strong russian

08:29:00 woman you do not need you do not need this from my man you are you are strong in yourself

08:29:06 um so difficult yeah i think she looks like a beautiful porcelain doll

08:29:18 yes don't you think she looks like a pretty porcelain yeah if you can get over like the

08:29:24 dead in the eye thing she's not dead in the eye she's set she has self-love and and she knows

08:29:30 who she is and she knows who she want what she wants in life and she's not gonna let anybody

08:29:34 attractive girl at the table how about that there we go see that's nice thank you yeah

08:29:38 that's nice okay so i didn't really mean specific to us but that was nice of you but what about like

08:29:45 women in general because you make a lot of generalized statements about women that are

08:29:49 all negative so what are some positive things that you can say about women as a whole that

08:29:54 you like about women because i haven't heard one thing that you like about women or one positive

08:29:58 thing about women don't say the labia i was literally i was about to say that's the first

08:30:07 thing that comes to mind i love labia that's your next t-shirt i tiffany 0.51

08:30:13 oh my god what do you like about women uh what do i like about women well 1.00

08:30:21 hats you gotta do hats

08:30:23 yeah I feel like this is a trick question 1.00

08:30:27 you don't like women right 1.00

08:30:28 I do like women 1.00

08:30:31 I know you don't I don't think you like me

08:30:33 what do you like about white people 0.95

08:30:35 how about we start with that

08:30:36 what I like about white people

08:30:37 what do you like about white people

08:30:39 it's not about the race

08:30:43 as a whole I like

08:30:45 who they are

08:30:46 it's a hard

08:30:49 like okay what 0.99

08:30:50 how does a woman i don't look at a race as a whole and judge them i look at of people everyone

08:30:57 as an individual yes but i don't want you to keep straight away from the question what what do you 0.53

08:31:03 like about women i like that women will fold my laundry and cook never ever do that's crazy 0.99

08:31:15 and i like look i enjoyed the companionship what about how if i did disliked women how the fuck 0.96

08:31:23 could i do this every single week this is why you make you better like women yes if i disliked women 0.97

08:31:29 i wouldn't do this to embarrass them and disagree with none of you were embarrassed tonight i gave

08:31:34 all of you a compliment you did that obviously baby doesn't happen on all of your episodes you

08:31:40 don't like women i love women well okay what would what would you feel is like because this

08:31:47 is one of those trick questions because the guys are gonna okay you're gonna list things that are

08:31:50 like uh dating like from a dating lens but it's like i don't know how i would even necessarily

08:31:56 answer that question if you asked me what do i like about men specifically i could answer that

08:32:02 easily but from question is for you okay okay you answer it let's hear it if i answer will you answer

08:32:09 uh i'll try my best um i love a man's voice like how how deep it is i love just the essence of a

08:32:19 man um just like their mannerisms um i like their body parts um i like that's like what i said well

08:32:29 i like i like i like dick you know i like only men have that okay i like how strong men are 0.98

08:32:35 biologically that they're stronger than us 0.99

08:32:38 that they give you a sense of protection 1.00

08:32:40 so am I allowed to say I like women 1.00

08:32:41 because they're weaker 1.00

08:32:42 no you can say I like the softness of a woman

08:32:45 I love the essence of a woman 1.00

08:32:47 I like women because they're weaker 1.00

08:32:49 I love how women dress and can accentuate 1.00

08:32:52 their bodies you know like 1.00

08:32:53 stuff like that that you would like about a woman 1.00

08:32:56 I like women 1.00

08:32:57 because they are 1.00

08:32:59 requisite for the

08:33:02 reproduction

08:33:03 of a species 1.00

08:33:04 women are requisites for the reproduction of the human race you you you could say you know i love 0.99

08:33:13 the fact that women are able to give life that's a powerful thing that would be uh look i'm not

08:33:17 a man that likes women would say that i'm not i'm not a poet like you i'm not sharp with the tongue

08:33:24 you're good with words i can't i'm not a wordsmith like that where i'm you have a colorful vocabulary

08:33:30 brian it's been colored by my many travels women i think i think that i don't think you like women

08:33:37 i do like women why am i gay now at the end of the show i love women i love women it's just you

08:33:45 put me on the spot with one of these questions where it's like what's the right answer i mean

08:33:51 you have to dig into your emotions which those guys are well i you comfortable doing those down

08:33:56 yeah i'm going to help men like you oh my god that's why you need a female advisor you're my

08:34:02 target audience female advisor you can need one oh i got people lined up already yeah

08:34:07 okay so uh let's see uh men like to well you know what really quick on that you say most men don't

08:34:18 really like women i think women misunderstand now maybe this is me being like doomer and not

08:34:25 doomer and black bill but maybe i'm jaded i don't like to do the like ice skating and the brunch

08:34:41 and all that shit i view but i i elevate women above purely companion or purely buddy i elevate 0.97

08:34:55 women to 0.99

08:34:56 you don't even know 1.00

08:34:59 what the fuck you're talking about 1.00

08:35:00 you're just 1.00

08:35:02 you think this is bullshit 1.00

08:35:04 you're just throwing whatever you can out 1.00

08:35:06 no this is

08:35:07 look I don't know

08:35:13 I think men

08:35:15 don't enjoy

08:35:16 some men don't enjoy doing

08:35:19 the like 0.99

08:35:21 cutesy oh we're gonna 0.96

08:35:23 to go to Ikea and fucking blah blah we're I guess that's lame but like the the ice skating 0.98

08:35:29 look I think maybe I'm unique because I'm a highly individualistic person 0.97

08:35:35 to a to a fault like to my detriment I'm highly individualistic that's relatable I can relate to

08:35:43 that yeah and so um I just don't like to do things with people in general right I think what a lot

08:35:52 of people are becoming that way these days i just like yeah i want my own bedroom yeah yeah your own

08:35:59 peace you want your own peace and quiet right maybe i'm fucked up no you're not there's nothing 0.88

08:36:03 wrong with that you're jaded you know i'm definitely but it's but not because not like 0.97

08:36:09 i don't know maybe i was just always that way no maybe it's an ex-girlfriend like a bad relationship

08:36:14 or something and then plus you still have a lot of growing to do you're still in your 30s so the

08:36:18 other thing is i'm it's like you're in your 20s i'm very career oriented business oriented i'm so

08:36:23 focused because i spend a lot of time on this podcast a lot of stuff behind the scenes people

08:36:29 don't see and because i'm so busy and because so much is at stake like how do i articulate this

08:36:39 um like uh there's there's a lot of potential on the table a lot that's at stake um like it's not

08:36:53 that i just have a job that okay i'm making 10k a month whatever right like this is like

08:36:59 set you up for life sure level of shit so i'm very focused on what i'm doing yeah and it's like 0.51

08:37:06 i need my time and space yeah sure but you can still like okay so what i still like what attracts 0.99

08:37:15 you to a woman like if you're gonna date a woman what attracts you to a woman we already said

08:37:20 natural what keeps you interested uh of course like everyone's gonna say looks i would say

08:37:27 there's going to be uh a pretty big personality component so i like a woman who uh i typically

08:37:35 prefer introverted women i tend to prefer uh a bit shy women almost women to the point that

08:37:41 they're a little awkward uh because they i'm not a truthfully even though i talk on the show for a

08:37:49 living i don't feel the need to be constantly blabbing like i can be comfortable and in quiet

08:37:55 with a woman um so a woman who's comfortable and quiet um like some women think that like oh you 1.00

08:38:02 don't want to talk to me and blah, blah, blah. And tell me about all the shit. Like, sometimes 1.00

08:38:07 I just, it's not about it's because you're on all day. I did PR. I traveled all over.

08:38:14 I didn't want to talk to people at the end because you're on all the time. It's nothing

08:38:18 personal. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And if you're introverted, you need your quiet space. You

08:38:23 have to recharge your social battery. Definitely introverted. But, uh, I feel like I'm on the

08:38:28 spot because i think i have i could tell you like 10 or 20 different things that are but it one it's

08:38:34 late and then two um i'm a bit drained here yeah we're all tired um what so what was the question

08:38:43 again and i'll try to actually answer it i don't know i'm tired too what are we getting to eat

08:38:48 with mayonnaise what what attraction to a woman what keeps you what keeps you almost i swear

08:38:53 tiffany five minutes it's probably four tiffany she's uh i i like a woman who has a calming 0.99

08:39:05 disposition so i like a woman who speaks calmly speaks softly um because there's women who are 0.99

08:39:14 high energy which isn't inherently a bad thing but i i do prefer a woman who has sort of a calming 1.00

08:39:21 disposition there's like a sweetness and softness to her voice i like a woman with a a nice laugh 0.97

08:39:27 um that's always good a woman who is has a sense of humor so she does indeed laugh some women 1.00

08:39:35 look some women just don't get your sense of humor and that's fine but um a woman who gets

08:39:41 your sense of humor has a has a nice quality to her laugh um i'm sure i could think of other things 1.00

08:39:47 that are more profound than just big labia.

08:39:50 Well, those are nice characteristics you described.

08:39:55 Is your cheerleader is on your side.

08:39:58 Yes, you've got to have somebody that has your back.

08:40:00 A lot of times the nature of dating is somewhat adversarial,

08:40:06 a little bit in the sense that you're a little on guard initially.

08:40:11 Eventually, hopefully you're opened up and you're fully comfortable with the person.

08:40:15 But a woman who is like on your team, and that's especially important to me because I, um, I have a controversial job and I, I'll be involved in one, uh, drama or another.

08:40:33 Oh, those comments, just haters. 0.75

08:40:36 She's going to see some video. 1.00

08:40:37 Somebody's talking shit about me. 1.00

08:40:39 Oh, Brian's blah, blah, blah. 1.00

08:40:41 Some fucking media outlet. 1.00

08:40:44 Right. 1.00

08:40:45 newspaper whatever uh writes a hit piece and yeah and instead of her in that moment

08:40:53 that generating anxiety in her and then creating apprehension as to her commitment to the

08:41:00 relationship she's standing by my side that's right and like really writing for me and that

08:41:06 doesn't mean that a woman has to agree with everything every single thing i say on the

08:41:10 podcast obviously i'm pro i'm somewhat of a provocateur and provocative and i'm going to

08:41:17 say things that like are shocking intentionally for entertainment or just for banter or fun or

08:41:23 whatever um some of the things i'm saying is a bit exaggerated for for comedic entertainment

08:41:30 purposes so then you're going to need a woman that's been somewhat in the entertainment industry

08:41:36 going to understand not necessarily but someone that's not gonna like get bent out of shape every 0.87

08:41:42 time some like idiot on tiktok so then somebody older makes of not necessarily a woman who's not 1.00

08:41:48 gonna get bent out of shape every time some fucking tiktok of some hater oh debunking the 1.00

08:41:53 whatever podcast or fucking blah blah they just need to or sometimes you take like when you're 0.98

08:41:58 gonna do this people wanna and maybe andrew might relate to this i don't know if andrew's still 0.94

08:42:02 watching um andrew wilson is when you're doing these kinds of conversations and it's like kind

08:42:09 of adversarial debate type stuff you're not gonna like you're gonna take l's and but sometimes the

08:42:16 viewers want to view you as like a superhero certainly that's going to be the case for andrew

08:42:22 where like he's a very he's a very dominant debater and almost never loses but he's had

08:42:28 interactions or exchanges where he'll lose like if if you look at a he does long debates

08:42:34 Andrew Wilson if he does a seven-hour debate even if he he overall wins the debate and he

08:42:41 97 98 percent of the time he's he's uh he's winning so to speak there's going to be like

08:42:51 some moments where he's on the back foot or moments where a person scores a couple points

08:42:56 against him like in the nba or any sporting like people there's no such thing as like such a

08:43:03 dominant team that they never get scored against in this same way like i'm gonna take l's doing

08:43:09 what i do and sometimes women are gonna have an issue with that yeah of course so you need a 1.00

08:43:17 cheerleader you need a woman who's a cheer not a literal cheerleader but a who's gonna be on your 1.00

08:43:21 team on your side who's got your back yes uh so that's huge your teammate a woman who has your

08:43:27 back um even when you're taking an l oh yeah even when you're taking an l you got some scandal or

08:43:33 some drama or somebody's lying about you or bullshitting you or some news article of oh my

08:43:39 god this person's so bad blah blah blah whatever it is right um trying to think if there's anything 0.96

08:43:44 else um yeah okay um tiffany's gonna kill me so i'm gonna try to blast through the rest as quick 0.94

08:43:52 as i can uh you uh african-american people deserve reparations yes do you all agree disagree 0.53

08:44:02 what do you think no no what do you think

08:44:08 reparations yes or no i don't think so uh scoot the mic a little closer reparations no what do

08:44:13 do you think no no so why did jewish people and native americans get reparations land

08:44:21 jewish people didn't get reparations in the united states well they well i mean they but but

08:44:26 but to my point they still got something we got nothing yes they did yes they did

08:44:33 native americans they get land you know like they you know all these other races um

08:44:42 they get they got something we got nothing we got oppression yeah equal rights we have to fight for

08:44:49 our rights and we just you know systematic oppression that still affects us to this day

08:44:56 and i think that black people deserve reparations well just a point of clarity here um

08:45:02 only what you're referencing you're saying like all these other races got something

08:45:08 only native americans like they're so i mean maybe you're talking of like in other countries

08:45:14 they maybe got something i'm not really familiar with that i mean they recognized there was a

08:45:19 problem and they made it even though you can never fix it they made efforts to fix it but

08:45:24 i can speak for my people we have been oppressed for a very long time the the systematic oppression

08:45:30 the inequality in education we still get discriminated against um like you know with 0.55

08:45:35 jobs and you know shit like that we don't get equal opportunities you know i feel like if i 0.56

08:45:40 let's just talk about native americans because you know you said they got it if if if they 0.95

08:45:45 recognized oppression with native americans and they try to make up for it why didn't they why 0.79

08:45:51 don't they feel the need to do that with people of color like i don't well um this is not really

08:45:57 my particular area of expertise, but I would ponder that the Native Americans had their

08:46:07 land taken from them, and so they were then granted land.

08:46:18 But it's not immediately clear how someone who was not a slave should be given money

08:46:24 for and who who pays it exactly i suppose just the american taxpayer and then um

08:46:33 like should people who were not slave owners owe a debt to people who were not slaves

08:46:47 i mean who paid the debt to the native americans those aren't the people who took the land from

08:46:52 them um who paid the i'm saying that that's what i'm saying so you're saying oh since they weren't

08:47:01 their treaties and they were granted land um but still to this day like but those aren't the people

08:47:08 who did that to them so we are the people that did that to the native americans the people who

08:47:16 are in the government right now did not do that no but engloos did it pilgrims did it everyone

08:47:22 that was sent from england over here the native americans back the land they weren't even given

08:47:28 back their original land most of them were placed out west and given desert land and that is what

08:47:35 they have but that's what i'm saying they gave them something to try to make up for it 0.93

08:47:39 there was land taken from black people as well since we did that to them why are y'all not going 0.74

08:47:45 back to nigeria and uh the sudan and libya and the places that still have the largest slave 0.56

08:47:51 market today and asking them why did they sell you in the first place the first recorded slave

08:47:57 trade in nigeria just recorded was in like 1471 but some of us weren't even over here yet for

08:48:07 sake of time i do have to move it on uh we got alexandra i thought it was just alex i don't know

08:48:12 i thought it was alexis um you've dealt with a lot of frenchmen so yes as to any interesting

08:48:21 dating topic or stories one time a guy threatened to attack you through text the next time he would

08:48:26 see you one of your recent dates here the guy ends up getting kicked out of the bar by a group

08:48:32 of mexican cowboys was there a particular reason uh yeah he called them some kind of slur it wasn't

08:48:38 a real date it was just some guy i ended up going on a drink with and uh what was this actually

08:48:44 wait don't say this right yeah well okay no it's just a word but yeah yeah okay um another time

08:48:49 the guy kept pulling over the car

08:48:51 dramatically to kiss

08:48:53 you

08:48:54 and then you got stopped by the police

08:48:57 who he had to beg not to arrest him

08:48:59 yeah that was intense

08:49:01 but romantic

08:49:02 everything good back there?

08:49:06 yeah 0.73

08:49:07 European men vs Americans 0.98

08:49:09 go ahead 0.99

08:49:10 well before I spent this time in America

08:49:13 I had a better opinion

08:49:15 well I actually think they're more or less 0.94

08:49:19 the same now that I've been here for a minute but I used to think that American men would be more

08:49:24 masculine and more generous I don't so much think that now I dated like one American in Paris and

08:49:29 he gave me a good impression but you know whatever well you're in LA so you're just dating a bunch of

08:49:34 LA yeah they're kind of not great I don't even know how to describe a lot of the dudes in LA 0.88

08:49:40 oh well you know one thing like artsy like fucking I don't know I don't know but one thing I definitely 0.95

08:49:45 noticed is the difference is that they don't make like reservations or nice dates here like the last 0.96

08:49:51 date i went on was yeah i know no boo as in expecting reservations why let's go do something

08:49:58 fun it's better for both of us let's just go for a walk oh my god anyways go for anyway

08:50:04 so the last date i went on here he um said let's go play pool and i thought okay why not

08:50:11 i'm open to anything okay and uh he didn't even make a reservation so then there was no space and

08:50:16 all that and i thought it's like the littlest things you can do oh well that's okay if you're

08:50:20 gonna go somewhere where there's like a chance of it being then yeah you should have a reservation

08:50:25 yeah like why go all the way there for nothing that's why you take a girl to uh mcdonald's 0.99

08:50:29 don't need a reservation for mickey d definitely don't let me get you some nuggets girl shit 0.99

08:50:35 what why you look at me i don't know you should have got us some nuggets here we got we got 0.99

08:50:42 12 different muffins back there you got four there was 12 muffins at the start oh there was

08:50:51 and they're good it's we're 10 hours in it's time to start eating some more muffins all right uh

08:50:58 okay we're gonna finish off with your final notes then we're wrapped oh my goodness

08:51:03 uh okay hold on where was i uh the we did the barista stuff um 1.00

08:51:10 okay women should be submissive that's you you don't think submissive is the right word 1.00

08:51:19 every couple should choose the relationship relationship dynamic that works for them

08:51:24 some prefer equal partners some prefer the man to lead some prefer the woman to lead

08:51:28 if a woman prefers a husband who leads she should first choose a man whose leadership

08:51:32 she genuinely respects. Different women value different strengths. For one woman, leadership

08:51:37 means intellectual strength. For another, emotional stability, financial confidence, physical strength, 0.99

08:51:42 or something else entirely. Once she freely chooses that man, she can willingly trust his judgment

08:51:48 while still offering her own advice. Respect is given voluntarily, not demanded. I also don't

08:51:56 think leadership means micromanaging. A leader's role is to protect the family, not to control

08:52:01 every decision day-to-day should simply be handled by the person best suited for them

08:52:06 leadership becomes important when the family faces serious decisions or danger such as financial

08:52:11 hardship threats to the family safety the children's well-being or other major challenges

08:52:16 you think many people confuse leadership with control i don't think they're the same thing

08:52:20 correct um do you think a component of leadership in a relationship would be a man not wanting his

08:52:31 girlfriend to go out to nightclubs or bars would that be controlling or would that be leadership

08:52:36 that would be leadership that's safety what do you think

08:52:39 i think it's a bit of both the both okay uh i'm not going to push back too much on that but

08:52:52 um i think we somewhat talked about the submission thing already uh women should not vote to which

08:52:58 you disagree um that's not my position though that women should not vote yeah i got sort of

08:53:05 sort of. But before debating the conclusion, you'd first like to understand what specific problem

08:53:12 removing women's voting rights is intended to solve. Once we identify the problem, we can ask

08:53:18 whether removing a constitutional right would actually solve it or whether there are better

08:53:23 alternatives. You also question the underlying principle men and women contribute to society

08:53:29 in different but equally indispensable ways correct men have historically provided much

08:53:36 of society's physical protection women also become pregnant give birth and may nurse infants

08:53:40 during those stages women and young children can be particularly vulnerable civilization depends

08:53:47 on both contributions not just one men bearing more of society's physical defense burden it's

08:53:52 not just physical defense it's also just like everything to do with infrastructure and everything

08:53:58 you see around you being built and maintained by men, but that does not mean women contribute 0.58

08:54:05 less to society. Biology assigns different burdens to men and women. You don't see why

08:54:10 one kind of social duty should confer political rights while another should not. You also

08:54:15 question the claim that women vote for policies whose costs are borne by men. Men and women

08:54:19 together elect governments and influence policies concerning war, welfare, taxation,

08:54:23 other public matters. Political responsibility belongs to the electorate as a whole, not

08:54:27 to one sex correct um okay there's a whole bunch there obviously we're not going to be able to dive

08:54:33 into everything i guess my one thing here is that you said that women equally contribute

08:54:41 correct in a different way so men contribute in one way women contribute in a different way

08:54:49 what is the way women equally contribute for example they have children

08:54:55 hmm can the government force women to have children no can the government force men to

08:55:03 uh force men to do their sort of well actually yes government can when they forbid abortion that

08:55:12 that's a terrible argument that's so bad okay that's so bad because okay even if there are 0.56

08:55:21 laws preventing women from getting abortions you would agree with me that the government

08:55:25 can't force a woman to have sex yes yes i can and can't force her to um not use birth control

08:55:35 and can't force her to yes i'm not arguing that right right so but you do acknowledge that that

08:55:42 is different yes right so um most abortions while occasionally there's like instances of abuse

08:55:52 most abortions the sex that resulted in that unwanted pregnancy was completely consensual

08:55:58 so what about it so you were asking uh regarding how women contribute i said for example

08:56:09 Well, my question was, can the government force women to give birth?

08:56:14 You say women equally contribute by having children, but they do so not out of any duty, but they do so voluntarily.

08:56:24 Correct. 0.68

08:56:25 The government cannot force women to do that, and they shouldn't, right? 1.00

08:56:30 Correct. 1.00

08:56:30 But the government can. So if men's contribution, if we were to like really limit, if we were to reduce down very simplistically both women and men's contribution, you would say women bear children. 0.59

08:56:46 Yes, women, women bear children.

08:56:48 And if we were to reduce men's contribution down, I think it's two-pronged, but it would be to fight wars, to defend the nation, defend the populace, right?

08:57:02 So the government can't force men to do that.

08:57:05 So you mean draft. That's what you mean, right?

08:57:07 Military conscription, yes.

08:57:08 Okay, now, out of all men in the United States, how many men are subject to military conscription?

08:57:15 All men are subject to selective service.

08:57:19 All ages, no exceptions.

08:57:20 All men were of the age at one point to be subject to military conscription. 1.00

08:57:24 Correct. Of some age, if we're taking at every given time, for example, you will not be subject to military conscription. Correct?

08:57:32 There will be some subset.

08:57:34 If the United States can always change the age range, I'm more likely to be drafted than like an able-bodied 20-year-old woman, athlete.

08:57:43 The government can change, but right now we have some law about conscription, and you are not the subject, correct?

08:57:54 I was subject to it.

08:57:56 You were, but you no longer are.

08:57:58 Well, hold on, but I don't understand.

08:57:59 So like, for example, wait, wait, really quick. When people get, um, what is it? Um, when people

08:58:06 get a pension, they're no longer working that job, but they conferred the benefits of receiving

08:58:13 the pension when they were, uh, when they were working at that time. In this case, men confer,

08:58:20 like, um, men were subject to it at some point. Okay. You are using an analogy and analogy is

08:58:29 not a way to prove something analogy is a way to illustrate something okay so right now i'm saying

08:58:36 if you take the whole set of men you will see subset of men that are subject to conscription

08:58:43 correct okay you are not among them right now currently but i was yes we heard that but i can

08:58:50 show you currently if you want to see my draft registration i don't i could show you if something

08:58:55 would have happened now you would not be drafted that's correct correct okay now there is a subset

08:59:03 of men now hold on wait wait really quick yeah um can women give birth indefinitely what do you mean

08:59:10 indefinitely there's there's an age range where women can give birth you know what every person 0.94

08:59:15 in the united states and in the entire world were born by a woman right but but hold on just so you 0.96

08:59:21 We understand what we're talking about.

08:59:23 I understand.

08:59:24 Yeah?

08:59:25 Very nice.

08:59:26 I understand.

08:59:27 But hold on.

08:59:28 If you're going to make an argument about, yes, it is true that the draft age is limited,

08:59:33 and I'm no longer. 1.00

08:59:35 We have a panel of women who may very well be incapable of... 1.00

08:59:43 That's fine. 1.00

08:59:44 That's fine.

08:59:45 But you did give birth to children, right?

08:59:47 Correct.

08:59:47 Yes.

08:59:48 I did.

08:59:48 Yeah.

08:59:49 now you are saying that men are subject to the draft right so what's what's the point that you're

08:59:55 trying to prove that men contribute more than women contribute or what are you trying to 0.98

09:00:00 sort of what's your what's your point uh sure in a situation in a shit hits the fan situation 0.98

09:00:08 uh men have a greater duty and responsibility so in the event if there was uh you know a scenario 0.96

09:00:17 in this country where a draft was implemented men have the duty and women have none how many men

09:00:27 would have this duty and responsibility i don't see how it matter it does matter because the

09:00:35 subset of men who are subject to the draft there may be a couple of millions of men but i'm not

09:00:40 I'm not making an argument

09:00:41 And women, all women

09:00:44 I agree with you

09:00:46 I'm not making a universal claim 1.00

09:00:48 So women contribute much more 0.66

09:00:51 Men contribute genetic material 0.98

09:00:53 Men contribute 0.98

09:00:54 Men contribute 1.00

09:00:56 You can't have children without men 1.00

09:00:59 We create children 1.00

09:01:00 We can have one man 1.00

09:01:01 For the entire population of women 1.00

09:01:04 And this would be enough to have children 0.98

09:01:06 Or two men 0.67

09:01:07 So we're not talking

09:01:10 about uh you you cannot argue about genetic material i just did but i just it's a it's invalid

09:01:19 argument so the the hold on the debate is not about i'm not i've never made the claim oh men

09:01:27 would be subject to the draft that's that's really not what the debate is centered around

09:01:32 so you said men contribute more than equally contribute yes i said equally contribute you

09:01:37 You see, I'm not saying that men contribute less, even though much less men are subject to the draft and women who bear children.

09:01:44 Well, this is only one of my arguments on this.

09:01:46 Oh, okay.

09:01:46 This is only – yeah, sure.

09:01:48 So do you concede this argument?

09:01:50 Yeah, I would argue – so in terms of you would – we would both agree that both – there's about – a bit more men, but there's about equal labor force participation.

09:02:02 A bit more men and say it again?

09:02:04 there's there's both men and women they're both working correct men more men work than women work

09:02:15 and men work more hours than women work but it's about it's about the same actually do i even want

09:02:22 to grant that what i'm gonna say yeah is that our our uh and there's no restrictions on what

09:02:32 women are allowed to do, men voluntarily enter fields where they're, because we were talking

09:02:38 about men and women contribute to society in different but equally indispensable ways.

09:02:44 Of course, equally indispensable.

09:02:46 But hold on, if we're looking at it from the frame of men's collective labor, men's collective

09:02:53 work, and women's collective work, there's no way you're going to tell me that women

09:02:59 equally contribute from a labor perspective i said in indispensable way they uh contribute

09:03:08 all all of us no but men and women okay but maybe we're talking past each other

09:03:13 in the ways without one okay do men and women contribute uh in the workforce is is one because

09:03:21 okay is a woman who doesn't have children but she's working is she contributing i guess she's 0.96

09:03:28 Like, I don't know, say she's a teacher.

09:03:30 You would, of course, say she's contributing, right?

09:03:32 Yes.

09:03:33 Okay.

09:03:34 My argument here, though, is that comparing men's collective work

09:03:39 compared to women's collective work, 0.99

09:03:43 men definitely contribute way fucking more than women do. 0.99

09:03:47 But add children to that equation. 0.99

09:03:49 But then, okay, add the various duties that men have beyond that.

09:03:55 I'm not arguing who's doing more.

09:03:57 i said both are equally important you are no no your claim hold on your claim is men and women

09:04:04 contribute to society correct so is one way is one way men and women contribute to society

09:04:12 through their work okay okay so i understand you're gonna say well okay giving men don't

09:04:18 give childbirth so this is like a plus for women i understand that uh by the way it's really tough

09:04:24 when like say your girlfriend's pregnant or whatever and she's like squeezing your hand

09:04:28 really hard when she's like that that's hard for us as men no that's really difficult no that's

09:04:34 really hard like no yeah no when i'm it's it hurts me when she's crying and in pain and i know it's

09:04:41 really hard for us men in my hand oh it hurt for yeah it bruised it bruised anyways getting back

09:04:48 to my point in terms of the contribution related to work do you think men and women equally

09:04:55 contribute when it comes to their workforce contribution in the united states probably not

09:05:00 anywhere anywhere anywhere in total you know in total in the former soviet union in the former

09:05:06 soviet union you remember uh world war ii you know when in the former soviet all men died

09:05:14 All men died

09:05:15 Or were people's 1.00

09:05:17 And then women took over 1.00

09:05:20 Everything 1.00

09:05:21 They were working

09:05:22 On infrastructure

09:05:24 They did everything

09:05:27 So now here luckily

09:05:29 Alright well look 0.99

09:05:31 World war 2 was really

09:05:33 Fucked up for Russia 0.96

09:05:35 And afterwards 1.00

09:05:37 In the 60s and the 70s women were working 1.00

09:05:40 On hard jobs

09:05:40 Looking at all countries

09:05:42 Okay, great. For a short period of time, even then, I'm almost going to guess that even when huge swaths of Russian men were killed during World War II, and many women, by the way, a higher proportion of women did pick up some of the slack.

09:06:01 All of it. Not some of it. There were no men left. 0.72

09:06:04 There were men left.

09:06:05 Please. There were men without legs, arms, you know.

09:06:10 and they were still doing like the most difficult jobs sitting there and they were telling women

09:06:15 what to do that's all soviet babushkas i know i know we're not doing no this is something you

09:06:22 cannot argue with me about there were so there were women caught like concrete workers and 0.98

09:06:28 fucking roofers there were women roofers oh my god okay all right yes yes in the middle of 1.00

09:06:37 a moscow winter you had women labor outdoor laborers yellow vest or orange vest okay women 1.00

09:06:46 were were digging roads and that was a common joke so whenever whenever it's needed and men 1.00

09:06:54 are missing women take over well we're gonna go ahead and grant for a short period after world

09:06:58 war ii russia because of its massive male casualties uh there's a higher um representation

09:07:04 of women in the labor like the physical labor workforce uh going to go ahead and grant it

09:07:11 every single other country throughout all of human history and even modern day when you have the 0.98

09:07:17 highest level of feminism ever and women have more freedom and more choice than at any other 1.00

09:07:22 point in human history uh women still don't equally contribute when it comes to the workforce 0.98

09:07:27 point blank period okay do you everything you see do you see these lights you see the plumbing

09:07:36 i already see the telecommunications i'm saying i'm saying women it's us men us men we do all of

09:07:44 it of course we do all of it you guys you guys would be living in mud huts if it wasn't we create

09:07:49 children we create children and that's a woman created you that's a beautiful woman created you 0.51

09:07:54 that's a beautiful thing and women need to start pumping out more kids well that's fine let's uh

09:08:01 i think it's great i love women for that okay all right i don't know uh what else do we have 1.00

09:08:08 i think we got one more oh almost there almost there um oh well i guess the argument on the

09:08:16 voting thing is in order for men to vote there they have to be subject to military conscription

09:08:23 women don't so there is a compelling argument to be like maybe either hey it's not fair you should

09:08:28 maybe not you either we equalize the draft so women can also be subject to military conscription

09:08:35 or we take it away from you guys or three-fifths yeah you get three-fifths of our vote i'll give

09:08:42 you some other options you get one-fourth maybe women get one-fourth of our vote half half maybe

09:08:48 Maybe, maybe, maybe only men who are subject to conscription can vote.

09:08:54 What do you say? 1.00

09:08:55 I'm fine with that, actually.

09:08:56 Okay, that's fine.

09:08:57 No, how about this?

09:08:58 You cannot vote, but men who are subject to conscription.

09:09:01 Here's my voting proposal.

09:09:04 If you join the military, so even if you're a net negative taxpayer, if you, but permanently.

09:09:11 Permanently?

09:09:11 What's permanently?

09:09:12 So if you're in the military.

09:09:13 For life?

09:09:14 26 years?

09:09:15 No, no, I'm saying if you're in the military for five years, you can vote forever.

09:09:21 Agreed. Done.

09:09:22 So if you're a woman or a man, you join the military, you can vote. 0.97

09:09:26 Totally fine with that.

09:09:28 You're a net positive taxpayer, whether you're a man or a woman, you can vote.

09:09:32 Done.

09:09:33 Okay. Done, Comrade.

09:09:35 Done.

09:09:35 It is done, Comrade.

09:09:36 Yes, I agree with you.

09:09:37 But if maybe half the vote, just saying.

09:09:42 You guys can't be forced to die.

09:09:45 Anyways, hold on.

09:09:46 Okay, I got to move it on.

09:09:49 You'd be interested in discussing household voting.

09:09:52 Okay.

09:09:53 Andrew Wilson argues from a religious view of patriarchy.

09:09:56 You're a secular conservative.

09:09:57 You don't object to religious values.

09:10:00 You object to the government compelling everyone to live according to one religion's theology.

09:10:05 Okay, I'll skip that.

09:10:06 that's for Andrew dating with the intention of finding a lifelong partner marrying building a

09:10:11 family is different from dating for companionship or sexual relationship it makes little sense to

09:10:18 play another example that comes up frequently on this podcast is the idea that women should

09:10:22 be submissive oh I think already we already did that yeah you did that we've covered everything

09:10:28 everything yeah all right when it was hot by the way i know it's a little cold right now it's good

09:10:36 you guys were saying it was so hot you see we're good now in russia okay um i'm gonna wrap the show

09:10:42 there um did you final check on the phone no not i put it back over there but let's get one more

09:10:49 check tiffany check check tiffany quick get her phone get her phone we gotta see if we got the dm

09:10:54 we gotta see

09:10:56 I bet you if you sent it from your phone

09:10:58 uh okay 0.99

09:11:00 I might be blocked are you saying he's gay 0.97

09:11:02 that's messed up

09:11:03 alright any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap the show

09:11:06 speaking out forever

09:11:08 hold your peace

09:11:09 um are we really gonna

09:11:12 do our show cause I really wanna do it

09:11:14 I am

09:11:16 exploring alternative

09:11:18 formats for my

09:11:19 YouTube channel

09:11:21 so it's possible

09:11:23 nothing okay all right turn your phone over please um all right i want to say uh gg well played last

09:11:31 call hit the like button please on your way out also please leave a night do you want to take

09:11:34 your makeup off i feel like i'm okay we did okay uh hit the like button please on your way out

09:11:41 leave a nice comment once the live ends i read them positivity is nice helps the algorithm

09:11:45 thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with

09:11:50 me i appreciate that thank you to the wonderful panel uh wonderful panel appreciate you guys for

09:11:55 coming tonight it was a fun convo it was fun uh we're gonna be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific

09:12:04 thank you not to everyone who super chats but only to claim who sent in the sole tts of the

09:12:11 entire night just kidding uh thank you guys i know some of you sent in tens and other thresholds and

09:12:17 some of you bought merch and twitch primes and thank you guys appreciate all the support uh no

09:12:21 matter how big or small thank you guys appreciate it and uh let's see oh i believe uh we we got

09:12:29 andrew coming next week so tune in for that that's going to be good uh i think we're doing at least

09:12:35 one debate that's probably so guys keep keep an eye out for it's either going to be friday

09:12:42 uh saturday for sure debate sunday dating talk and then maybe a debate on friday we'll see though

09:12:51 we'll see so andrew's back in studio the man the myth the legend the master debater andrew wilson

09:12:58 uh that's pretty much it thank you guys it was lovely having you guys i know it's late thank

09:13:05 you guys for sticking with me thank you you know w's in the chat for tiffany i want a whiffiny 0.70

09:13:10 in the chat put with any in the chat w's w tiffany the poor the poor gal um she's she just 1.00

09:13:19 came down with a bad case of um aids i'm kidding she she's a little sick she's a little under the 0.93

09:13:26 weather and she she was a trooper she powered through it and uh so w's in the chat for tiffany

09:13:34 did the ipad die tiffany or is it showing the chat oh man i gotta okay i gotta fix that anyways

09:13:43 uh they're all saying poor uh get well soon tiffany so uh yeah okay i feel like i'm forgetting

09:13:50 something uh what are we forgetting tiffany hey guys okay we're gonna rip it we're gonna rip it

09:13:58 super quick okay guys twitch.tv slash whatever okay i need i don't you guys yes or no that's

09:14:09 it the question is would you date the male version of you ready tiffany

09:14:12 no probably not that's but okay remember what we were talking about it's just one ai's description

09:14:25 of me if i was yeah but remember what we were talking about you just rejected you dog that's

09:14:32 what i'm talking that's your that's who that's like a small boy or whatever yeah

09:14:37 okay all right next oh wow oh actually not bad okay wait is that your natural hair color or do

09:14:51 you diet i diet okay why why yeah why would you want to be a ginger i don't know i like it sorry 0.62

09:15:01 to any gingers in the chat because it looks like your eyebrows they're like you have black or brown

09:15:07 hair uh i have uh lighter than yours okay all right next 0.99

09:15:14 look i'm doing the whatever not bad not bad would you date him no shit next 0.97

09:15:23 would you date him no what look at the doll on the back wait what's wrong why not why not 0.99

09:15:30 closer to the mic closer to the mic oh because i'm not really into blondes so much oh my god

09:15:36 well no that's gray let's say that's gray no what just his face okay fine he has dark hair

09:15:43 would you date him no no he didn't he wasn't born in 2000

09:15:49 is that the problem maybe his birth date starts with a 19

09:15:56 yeah okay next wow okay oh that's a handsome guy yeah yeah he looks like a nice guy right

09:16:10 the one with the beard he fine he is yeah

09:16:13 that guy looks like he plays world of warcraft

09:16:17 Why am I bald?

09:16:24 Why am I bald?

09:16:25 He's not bad looking.

09:16:27 That's horrible.

09:16:28 My grandfather was 93 and died with more hair on his head.

09:16:32 No, I would not.

09:16:34 Okay.

09:16:35 Oh, my God.

09:16:36 Hell no. 0.91

09:16:37 Hey, bro, you did me dirty on me. 1.00

09:16:40 You picked a weird-ass fucking screenshot. 1.00

09:16:43 No, look at my screenshot. 1.00

09:16:44 Go back to my screenshot.

09:16:45 I was trying to do the whatever.

09:16:47 um i feel like i'm forgetting something but

09:16:49 i don't know all right you're not we covered a lot yeah okay uh oh seven's in the chat oh

09:17:00 seven's in the chat guys good night good night guys and we will see you guys next time good night

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Whatever Podcast - September 28, 2026

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