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00:02:40.960 ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location

00:02:46.620 and occupation go ahead um my name is loose i'm 20 years old i am located based in los angeles

00:02:55.300 um i'm a fitness model and a student uh where do you study uh uc santa barbara and uh what's your

00:03:05.920 major uh biological anthropology okay i detect a bit of an accent where are you from somewhere

00:03:12.320 no no no okay all right my name is northy i'm 24 and i do a lot of content creation varying from

00:03:23.540 youtube i have a youtube channel called hard ones i stream on twitch i post on tiktok instagram and i

00:03:29.420 have an only fans and patreon did you say where you're from oh i am from dc okay hi my name is

00:03:36.000 kenna i'm from uh northern california and i live in la now

00:03:39.160 uh yo pc patty thank you for the uh raid with the uh 131 of you if you're uh new to the channel

00:03:49.440 go ahead and drop us follow over there on twitch go ahead um i'm studying a business right now and

00:03:55.800 i'm a server did you say i missed your age because of the raid i'm 21 21 all right thank you

00:04:02.060 hi my name is aria riley oh my god these guys really don't want to let you guys introduce

00:04:07.280 yourselves hey swordless uh thank you so much for the 20 gifted youtube memberships really appreciate

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00:04:18.200 it go ahead all right hey guys my name is aria riley i live in las vegas i am a spiritual healer and

00:04:24.440 advisor a former exotic dancer what wait what's a spiritual healer so i do reiki i also do

00:04:31.620 tarot card readings reiki reiki is that like the chakra shit kind of yeah but it's more so of like

00:04:38.880 emotional like release so when you go through trauma or anything bad in life and you don't

00:04:45.240 release it in the right way that's how you start getting sick and it starts affecting your organs

00:04:49.660 reiki reiki reiki it it heals that or helps it okay well more so it helps you i'm basically pushing

00:05:01.340 the energy through like different energy points in your body and it's helping you to release it

00:05:06.180 because people can choose not to like let go what do you say to somebody who calls that pseudoscience

00:05:11.300 if you don't believe in it you don't believe in it it is what it is to be cliche but yeah i'm not

00:05:19.600 saying that's my position necessarily but what would you say to somebody whose position that was

00:05:26.280 no that's what i would say like if you don't believe in it i'm not gonna be like hey come try it

00:05:32.260 because it'll never work you need to believe in it in it in order for it to work yeah that seems a

00:05:39.220 little flimsy doesn't it i mean it's the same thing with like tarot card readings like if you

00:05:43.360 come in it with like a closed mind i'm not gonna be able to like read for you

00:05:47.920 well if i go to the doctor and they give me morphine whether i believe in it or not it it works

00:05:55.340 well not everybody believes in spirituality you know okay um age i don't tell people how old i am

00:06:02.280 why i like to be mysterious okay we're not gonna do that on the show what's your age oh i mean

00:06:09.960 respectfully i just don't share that what why it's i like to be mysterious we don't like mystery here

00:06:17.680 at the whatever podcast we like transparency and forthcomingness and we hope people can engage in

00:06:22.720 good faith with the conversation i'm very authentic and i'm always true look i there's nothing preventing

00:06:28.680 me from you lying about your age if you'd rather lie about it it's true i'm not gonna lie okay so

00:06:33.780 why don't you tell us the truth and just say what your age is i don't want to so if you're unwilling

00:06:40.120 to just share a very basic biographical piece of information about yourself how can i expect to

00:06:47.540 engage with you in good faith in any other conversation that we're gonna have you can engage

00:06:52.340 with me with whatever else but with me that's a certain boundary like even when you have a boundary

00:06:58.040 about sharing your age yeah is it and it's okay andrew andrew what do you think andrew what do you

00:07:06.920 think about this oh well i i've got my tarot cards over here and i'm flipping them over i've got your age

00:07:12.380 pegged at 28 am i way off um you're wrong we'll leave it at that okay so 30 it's an age yeah that's

00:07:26.840 an age but you i mean you don't want to tell us at all yeah i just said that a couple times yeah

00:07:31.820 i mean it i don't know it seems like um i don't know it seems like you don't want to be don't want

00:07:38.780 to be honest with us that's all i'm a very honest person and i'm honest about the fact that i don't

00:07:44.000 share my age why it's part of my mystery it's part of my appeal you're not yeah it's part of your

00:07:53.280 appeal yeah this is this would occur to me like if you were on a date with somebody would you not even

00:07:58.340 reveal your age no i don't wow that seems a little shifty call it what you may but even on dates i don't

00:08:05.980 tell them i've had guys go through like certain lengths to like try to grab my license and be

00:08:11.440 like what is your age like if we're dating longer and like the only thing that i could see coming up

00:08:18.480 is if you think that i'm underage and that would be a problem but if we're going to a bar and i'm

00:08:23.600 able to drink you know that i'm over 21 or if we're dating for a long period of time and you're

00:08:27.980 like hey i want kids maybe i should know what your age is then okay then it's going to come up but i

00:08:33.040 don't share it just like off the back and like certainly not why don't you share it off the bat

00:08:38.380 because it is a part of my mystery what does that mean for something to be part of your mystery

00:08:43.900 i don't don't uh don't like dating profiles have a spot where you have to put your age in there

00:08:49.640 what do you put in there you can actually like hide it on certain like dating profiles

00:08:53.980 yeah do you have your age hidden on all of your dating profiles um i only have one and yes

00:08:59.040 i have a question so i have a question oh go ahead andrew go ahead well i'm the the reason

00:09:04.880 i'm curious is uh you must be on a dating app or two that you can't hide your age on you can't hide

00:09:11.120 it on all of them right no so i'm only on one day so do you put so do you put something in there

00:09:16.020 that is not true no i just hide the age you just hide it yeah okay i have a question for you okay

00:09:24.880 um you know i i sometimes have a reputation for not having a lot of patience but today my patience

00:09:31.540 is especially uh what's the best word to then sure um if the choice where did you drive from

00:09:40.500 flew you flew here okay if the choice is between revealing your age and me kicking you off the show

00:09:48.540 right now which do you choose would you kick me off the show i'm considering it i'm contemplating it

00:09:54.720 okay it's not insane because you've been invited on the show in good faith i don't know any any

00:10:01.500 legitimate reason why you would refuse to answer the age question you you could just lie if it's

00:10:07.720 like just lie about your age if you want me to lie i will i'll like straight up say hey i'm lying about

00:10:13.360 it but that's being honest and then if i don't like if i go on dates and i'm telling you i don't share

00:10:18.440 my age you're asking me to share that information with whoever's watching this with your five million

00:10:23.940 followers and that's why what's wild why that's why you don't want to share like are you concerned

00:10:36.260 about like doxing is that it what's that well no actually that's not you you've already stated

00:10:42.720 that it's because you want to have this mystery well i don't find that good enough pretext for

00:10:49.720 refusal to share your age oh well i mean different morals for different people it's a moral or an

00:10:56.680 ethic to refuse to share your age yeah if it's important to me i don't understand why you why

00:11:02.620 you're not respecting that because it's absurd oh why aren't you respecting my podcast by just being a

00:11:11.320 good sport and good faith and just answering the age question i'm 22 that's a lie

00:11:16.960 how do you how do you want me to make you happy all right whatever moving on what about you

00:11:23.940 i'm carly i'm 23 and i'm a barista all right

00:11:29.500 i'm nicole um i'm 30 i'm a freelancer and artist thank you for sharing your age appreciate it

00:11:37.020 i'm caroline and i'm from virginia i'm 25 and i'm a professional nanny

00:11:43.240 thank you for sharing your age appreciate it go ahead isabel i am isabel brown i'm an independent

00:11:48.780 content creator we do a live stream every day and i'm also an author traveling the whole country

00:11:53.160 for my new book the end of the alphabet right now uh really excited about the opportunity to

00:11:58.000 be back on the show and hopeful for a great conversation tonight welcome back um sorry i did

00:12:03.360 your age oh 26 i'm 26 i'll be 27 next month all right thank you yeah absolutely um well

00:12:09.000 just because i'm not really inclined to entertain this whole thing when you messaged us you indicated

00:12:15.120 you were 29 in your casting questions okay so was that true or did you or did you lie because if

00:12:25.280 you did lie if you did lie about that then you have no problem lying about your age right i lied about

00:12:31.100 it not to make it a big deal yeah oh chat how old do you think she is oh i love this game

00:12:38.620 we'll leave it to chat okay super bad faith but all right uh going around the table

00:12:46.980 what is your current oh actually sorry andrew can we have you uh introduce yourself

00:12:51.400 yeah my name is andrew wilson host of the crucible it's one of the fastest growing debate channels if

00:12:57.240 not the fastest growing debate channel on the internet uh pop on to the whatever podcast from

00:13:01.600 time to time when brian invites me thank you for inviting me brian thank you for coming man good

00:13:05.300 good to uh have you back okay so we're gonna go around the table once more what is everybody's

00:13:10.760 current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits

00:13:16.920 relationship married polycule sex cult whatever it may be yeah there's a lot uh if you're single

00:13:22.880 how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting

00:13:25.920 with you go ahead um single maybe kind of talking stage um i'm a few months single and the longest

00:13:35.540 relationship i've ever been in was three and a half years three years few months single so three four

00:13:41.880 months single or uh two to three months single okay and you said you're currently in a talking stage

00:13:48.420 how long has that been going on um a few weeks a few weeks okay what about you um i am single my

00:13:56.040 longest relationship was two years um i've only ever had one relationship in my life and that ended in

00:14:02.280 august of 2023 and you said sorry you said you've been single for how long uh since august of 2023 okay

00:14:09.340 got it what about you i'm currently in a relationship how long have you uh been in the relationship

00:14:15.800 since november it's like five months relationship since yeah yeah okay longest relationship

00:14:24.980 two and a half years all right single in the talking stage um i think i've been single for like a

00:14:35.480 year and a half but you're currently in the talking stage yeah how long has that been about two months

00:14:42.040 longest relationship three and a half years all right what about you i'm single i've been single

00:14:51.180 for probably like six months um my longest relationship probably like a year and a half

00:14:56.900 okay single grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars b if she cannot be genuine about her age

00:15:09.180 what what uses she get rid of her now save us the nonsense she is sure to spew and yes i spent 200

00:15:16.820 bucks to make you go away rather than entertain her lunacy yay money

00:15:22.000 um i mean we kind of already addressed it just i appreciate your message grid one motorsports it's just

00:15:31.840 kind of peculiar because it's like if you don't share your age because i mean we can make assessments in

00:15:37.900 terms of directing the flow of the conversation well okay if she's if she's 21 then maybe she's just had

00:15:45.600 the dating experience of being in college but maybe you know she's 30 then she's had more dating

00:15:50.120 experience and then i can cater my questions a little more accurately based on that but if you

00:15:56.160 just say well it's a mystery well it makes it a little harder for me to engage with you in good

00:16:01.060 faith in terms of trying to reel you into the conversation trying to ask you perhaps specific

00:16:06.940 questions that could be related to your age i'm so glad i'm not dating donated two hundred dollars

00:16:12.640 lol won't share her age whilst in the meantime showing off 96.8 percent of her saggy fun bags to

00:16:20.960 all of brian's five million subs is that planters cause i smell peanut brain here we go again

00:16:29.160 well i do want to say this to you i didn't realize that it would be such a big deal like

00:16:34.700 i'm not doing it to be disrespectful it's just i mean honestly that's just how i go about my life

00:16:41.060 do you you said you do of correct

00:16:43.380 do you do you post nude content

00:16:47.600 yeah so you refuse to share your age but i mean you're posting nude content you're talking about

00:16:57.660 mystery but you're not leaving much mystery it occurs to me

00:17:00.960 like how do you how do you reconcile your desire to have mystery about yourself you won't even share

00:17:09.800 biographical information but there's like literally nude content of you online i to me it's that that

00:17:16.280 seems a bit contradictory do you understand i guess so i guess i've never really like thought about it

00:17:21.140 to be honest i just don't the mystery the two yeah okay you have um perhaps a another coven of witches

00:17:28.260 who is casting spells against you and you're concerned if you release what your age is that they could

00:17:33.280 then use that to target you is it like a witch protection program which protection program i think

00:17:39.780 sorry good i just i think like there's no rhyme or reason to why she didn't choose to share her age

00:17:46.740 but like i think i think you've expressed that it wasn't particularly logical per se to not share

00:17:53.900 your age if there's other confounds in her life that maybe aren't alluding to mystery but i think

00:17:59.260 the reason you take it so personally is because you just don't want a woman to tell you

00:18:03.500 no to a piece of information about herself like i agree i would i would share my age but i think

00:18:09.000 why are you guys so upset about her not sharing her i don't i just don't really care well how did

00:18:12.640 you arrive at the conclusion that i the reason i'm i'm a bit flustered by this is because i'm upset

00:18:19.920 that specifically a woman you use gendered words they're like you are you asserting that if a man

00:18:24.700 refused to do this that i wouldn't also be equally like yo what the fuck you asked to come be on the

00:18:29.640 podcast it's basic bio information like her gender is totally irrelevant but please articulate how you

00:18:36.660 arrived at that conclusion i just think it's just you're clearly targeting other aspects of her life

00:18:43.180 that are more effeminate things such as being naked on the internet how is how is that a feminine

00:18:48.980 thing well not that's neither it's neither masculine nor feminine effeminate in the sense of

00:18:54.600 effeminate women are typically targeted in certain not targeted but in certain age brackets age is a

00:19:01.600 more stigmatized thing for women i think if it was a man on the podcast here someone wouldn't comment

00:19:06.460 oh well gee she looks 30 and this like i think age is a more sensitive topic for women i don't agree

00:19:12.420 with not sharing that piece of information personally but i think the tabooness of your

00:19:19.060 age in an industry such as she does like only fans you might want to be private about your age in order

00:19:24.180 to acquire more wealth and consumers and that sort of thing so fraud yeah absolutely i think you're you're

00:19:31.000 in favor of somebody fraudulent fraudulent excuse me fraudulently advertising their age to appeal to a

00:19:37.700 different i mean in porn and porn women pretend to be stepmothers to appeal to a demographic

00:19:42.300 i don't think i don't think that's uh it's christinated two hundred dollars this is why you

00:19:48.780 don't deal with black women and don't take them seriously no okay no racism guys please okay all

00:19:54.580 right um i think for me it um i studied the law of attraction and there's a certain chapter

00:20:00.300 i mean it's a go ahead go ahead good book i highly recommend it to people but yeah i studied the law

00:20:06.700 of attraction and there's a section but the book's not called the law of attraction i'm sorry it's called

00:20:10.220 the secret right i'm sorry the art of what the art of seduction is what i'm thinking of wait by robert

00:20:16.380 green yeah also the author of 48 laws of power yeah i'm glad that you're familiar with robert green he

00:20:22.540 has really good books so there's a chapter in the art of seduction where it talks about you needing

00:20:27.980 mystery and i didn't like start doing the age thing until the internet went crazy over alexa demi

00:20:34.380 from euphoria and like people went crazy because they couldn't figure out what her age was and they

00:20:39.800 couldn't find where it was online so i really i took notes from that so forgive my question here maybe

00:20:46.380 but seduction is the process of alluring somebody to yourself correct how is it alluring somebody

00:20:55.540 if you're willing to put yourself entirely nude on the internet but you have to reveal mystery about

00:21:01.920 your age in order to get there i guess i'm just having a hard time understanding the dichotomy

00:21:06.800 there with seduction with like that kind of work well hold on the whole thing of it that was a

00:21:11.840 question directed towards her so you're both you're both on only fans correct so would love to have both

00:21:16.460 of your take on it um there's certain parts you can pick and choose what parts of your life you want

00:21:21.620 to be mysterious it's up to you and that's just a part that i've noticed that people kind of go

00:21:27.120 crazy over so i kept it i it's all trial and error for me interesting what doesn't how about your

00:21:33.720 perspective i'm curious so my perspective is like basically with that kind of work is what you are

00:21:38.620 is you're buying a fantasy it's not real it's never going to be real um that's just kind of how i see it

00:21:43.800 so from my perspective i can understand like in her line of work it's understandable she wouldn't share

00:21:48.960 her age with my platform i don't share my age either but um that's really sad to me so so what

00:21:57.660 type of fantasy are we trying to sell that you're a child that you're a teenager that you're i don't do

00:22:03.600 21 i don't do the p word i don't do corn okay so just but largely largely on the platform scale

00:22:08.680 right if we're just talking anecdotally about the platform and selling a mystery on the platform of

00:22:12.760 only fans to consumers what's the mystery there by by hiding your age what's the fantasy that you're

00:22:18.360 selling to certain people so what i tell people is like yes obviously i'm over 18 but like it's

00:22:24.480 um my privacy to keep my age withheld if they want to think i'm 30 years old 25 um i'll always

00:22:32.100 catch them if they think i'm a teenager i'm like i'm not a teenager i correct that behavior i don't

00:22:36.600 like to cater towards that kind of audience but outside of that um you know for my own privacy like

00:22:42.760 my personal life you know should be a separate thing like anyone's work you have like your life

00:22:47.700 outside of hmm interesting oh my god who the hold on oh my god who the hell cares make bad faith

00:23:00.700 dollar store s worker take the long walk uh i don't know we'll see how the rest of the show goes but uh

00:23:07.580 what was i gonna say uh thank you grid one appreciate it um

00:23:13.500 okay so the secret is bs there is no law of attraction

00:23:20.440 art of seduction i misspoke oh right right okay the art of seduction okay sorry look at how

00:23:26.740 it's turned into a whole conversation right now just like simply talking about it you've burned about

00:23:31.400 20 minutes of the time if uh i've burned it we could have just kept it moving you well hold on

00:23:37.740 let me just turn that let me just reverse you know this okay you could have just said your age

00:23:42.460 why why am i at fault when you're kind of the one who's every other girl here stated their age

00:23:50.160 so you're the outlier that's fine i don't need to be like every other girl here i'm just saying

00:23:55.940 it easily could have like kept going but that's the point i'm trying to make like it's such like a

00:24:02.400 debate about it just because somebody doesn't want to share their age and it's kind of odd to me but

00:24:07.220 that's just how it works something i've noticed with not sharing my age is it keeps like money coming

00:24:13.800 in and it keeps people like wanting to know more about you so that is definitely like an aspect and

00:24:19.120 part of that yeah i mean one of the things i really object to when these girls lie about their age

00:24:24.500 you'll have women who are like in their 20s they'll like they'll do this on tiktok they'll do

00:24:28.860 it on of they'll actually claim in the reverse direction they'll claim that they're older than

00:24:33.040 they'll actually are they'll claim i'm 40 i'm 50 and i know exactly why they fucking do it to appeal

00:24:38.960 to the older male demographic who has more disposable income and oh my god you're so beautiful for a 40

00:24:45.420 year old 50 year old and they perpetuate this lie they sell the girlfriend experience and it's i

00:24:51.520 frankly think it's fraud i think it's fraud to to misrepresent details about yourself in in an

00:24:58.620 order to attempt to falsely appeal to somebody i think that's fraud i think um you're playing a

00:25:05.860 character you're playing a fantasy online as well as what you're referring to i would say that's just

00:25:10.380 straight up clickbait it's for people to be like whoa like you're that old you look so good it gets

00:25:14.400 views that's what it does anyways moving on i think we left off here with your relationship status

00:25:20.620 right you said you were single yeah single uh for how long uh four years four years yeah uh you were

00:25:30.180 previously oh hold on one motorsports donated two hundred dollars i do not want to know more about

00:25:37.860 you i want you to go away because you are wasting time we could be talking about cool stuff you have

00:25:44.280 failed in life please get help you've invoked their wrath it's okay though they'll they'll calm down

00:25:50.060 uh okay were you previously married no no okay i was maybe i was with a girl for like three years

00:25:57.980 okay i got my notes mixed up then uh longest relationship yeah longest relationship uh three

00:26:03.780 years you said yeah three years three years okay and uh you i think in your pre-show notes you said

00:26:10.580 that you used to be a lesbian but now you've actually you've you've changed up is that yeah

00:26:15.660 uh do you care to elaborate uh well so okay like uh have you like from pretty much whenever you

00:26:25.660 started dating were you always just interested in women and then you were you bi did you previously

00:26:32.220 date men then you switched to women what's the yeah i've always only been with women um and then

00:26:38.860 like it was like recently like i just started liking a guy and like uh for is this the first guy

00:26:45.140 you've ever liked well yeah um uh i'm sorry i'm awkward um yeah it was are you are you okay yeah

00:26:59.020 i'm autistic i'm sorry um it was like like 2022 when i first liked the guy and yeah it was

00:27:06.860 not a good wait the current guy or a different guy well you said 2022 yeah it's like two years ago yeah

00:27:13.820 um you said you currently like a guy though is it the same guy that you liked in 2022

00:27:18.700 no this is the same guy but like i i it's the first time i've been with a guy who was in 2022

00:27:25.260 you met him in 2022 yeah okay well 21 but so you've been dating him for three years no it was

00:27:32.620 it's it's complicated but like yeah it was my first time was with him that was in 2022

00:27:38.420 okay but and there's been no other guys in the picture no just him yeah wait the first time was in

00:27:44.900 2022 yeah so you've is this like a friends with benefits or what how do you categorize the because

00:27:53.860 you said you're single yeah i'm single but you've been seeing this guy is it on again off again

00:27:59.060 no it is complicated um we were never really to it's a long story um uh

00:28:11.220 oh god this is awkward um i can't explain it maybe like maybe later on i'll open up more about it but

00:28:18.820 it's it's i can't explain it it's too complicated it's too long wait wait go ahead andrew how many drugs

00:28:27.620 are you on sorry i'm really i'm i'm i have i have anxiety right now i'm sorry um but yeah all right

00:28:36.180 well let's let's reel it in just start from the beginning real quick and just kind of answer the

00:28:41.540 basic questions that brian's asking it's okay you can just kind of chill out you know what i mean yeah

00:28:46.260 okay yeah all right so you were a lesbian for most of your uh life is that correct yes yes okay and

00:28:54.500 then when did you meet this guy 2021 2021 and are you still seeing him on again off again no

00:29:02.740 okay so you're not you're not seeing him anymore no okay how long were you seeing him um the majority

00:29:09.620 of 2022 yeah okay so about a about a year yeah like about like half of that like like summer

00:29:18.020 oh just just this so you were only seeing him for a few months yeah okay and are you still dating

00:29:24.820 men like i'm open to it but i'm not really like looking you know what i mean okay yeah gotcha

00:29:33.860 all right okay what about you uh i'm single and my longest relationship was a year and a half

00:29:39.860 and i've been single since the beginning of february okay was that the the one that ended in

00:29:47.220 february was that the one point you said one point five year longest relationship yeah that's the one

00:29:51.380 that ended in february yes okay uh what about you i am very happily engaged i'm getting married in

00:29:57.540 81 days so very exciting he did a great job shout out brock i know you're watching at home yo w's in

00:30:04.180 the chat for brock did great yeah no i'm very happy engaged we started dating in 2021 july of 2021

00:30:11.380 2021 okay so we've been together since then all right cool and did you propose or did he propose

00:30:16.660 he proposed he proposed at the grand canyon it was beautiful we were hiking it was great that's

00:30:21.380 awesome congratulations thank you is uh madison invited to the wedding you know it's so funny

00:30:26.020 we were catching up on all the fun things the last time i was on the show that it was her first

00:30:29.700 time on the show so i love that yeah all right uh andrew your relationship status

00:30:36.180 uh i'm married happily married have been for well over a decade okay i'm gonna read a couple chats

00:30:41.380 here uh can grid one motorsports stfu do donate so much he's basically brian's feeder brian and summer

00:30:49.140 let's stop looking preggers yeah dude i need to lose i gotta lose the dad bob bro i'm stressing

00:30:54.420 um what's with the age modesty and not the the jj and behold honesty uh well i think she addressed

00:31:02.740 that i asked her well okay you're mysterious about your age but like everything else ain't a mystery

00:31:08.740 you know what i mean so yeah we'll leave it at that thank you though chris this is another example

00:31:14.420 of why i'm so glad that oh whoa jesus bro why are you trying to get me in trouble chris hold on

00:31:19.140 chris bro cut the fuck in bro damn dude trying to get my shit canceled okay by the way isabel my

00:31:28.500 wife i guess is a fan of your work no way hello to your wife thank you yeah you probably know her

00:31:34.580 on twitter rachel wilson oh yes the name sounds very familiar amazing gustavo chose choose for brian

00:31:40.980 using a salute for four nine half asian and white concert violinist beef curtain but does of

00:31:46.020 only fans only nudes or robot for same as above doesn't do of but not a labiaplasty what so gustavo

00:31:53.300 you have to choose using a salute i'm kind of for here i'll pull it up again for me your matchmaking

00:32:03.380 for me based off of the this these two hypothetical scenarios she's a four nine half asian half white

00:32:09.220 concert violinist uh beef curtains but does only fans only nudes or robot for take pick one gustavo

00:32:18.100 the second one or two

00:32:21.620 one or two or four or bro gustavo what okay all right and then we have uh pico stein's brian's

00:32:29.300 organized organization blm is doing a survey to see how many of our young may be at risk for performing

00:32:35.220 a labiaplasty ladies please indicate to the chairman gustavo whether you have an innie oh my god what is

00:32:41.060 going on tonight guys i swear normally the fucking messages are not this crazy um he wants to know

00:32:49.460 whether you guys have an innie or an outie labia

00:32:54.580 you don't have to answer but if you do that's total like you can she was about to fuck i shouldn't

00:33:05.300 oh well no no wait uh you were gonna i just i think it's like um i think the porn industry and

00:33:13.700 sorry can we say that word yeah the porn industry and everything has changed so much because i remember

00:33:18.580 being younger and being exposed to pornography and only seeing any labias and i would argue now i'm

00:33:26.660 seeing every which way every type of woman i i also think as someone who um is bisexual i've never had

00:33:34.900 a preference and i think you know both can be sexy and like i don't have a problem with either and i i

00:33:41.860 think it's getting less stigmatized which is really healthy for younger generations because you should

00:33:47.140 never go under the knife for something unless it is absolutely

00:33:55.060 in my opinion but you know that's how i feel i think it's progressing that's probably the only

00:34:00.500 thing we're going to agree on the entire night i agree that that's not fair i don't know you don't

00:34:06.420 know me i don't know um but uh i i concur labiaplasty 10 000 a year in the united states it's tragedy

00:34:15.460 you say you state you don't have a preference i'll just come out and say it i have a preference

00:34:20.500 hashtag big labia matter

00:34:24.260 any girls want to answer if any show of hands anybody want to answer the question okay sorry

00:34:29.620 dude they're not going to answer it's a bit it's a bit much it's a bit much but uh uh where were we oh

00:34:36.660 we okay we're doing relationship status so subscribe to find out single single wait single

00:34:43.220 single relationship single talking stage single single we got a lot of single people here uh so

00:34:47.860 what does being single actually mean so you're you said you're single slash talking stage right so you

00:34:53.860 have do you have a guy in the picture girl in picture you got a roster what's i have um i don't

00:34:59.780 have a roster per se but i i like being open-minded to like new ideas of dating and try to not limit

00:35:09.460 myself but i do think when you're single once you choose to go into the talking stage it's really

00:35:14.660 important to kind of cater down to one or very few people because otherwise i think you don't get

00:35:19.860 the experience of like getting to know them depending whether or not you actually want to date i

00:35:24.580 always go into things wanting to date i've never really been part of um like a hookup culture type

00:35:31.300 of thing so yeah i would say i right now i'm talking to one person um i was interested in a girl in the

00:35:39.060 past um and now i'm talking to a guy um so i'm i'm fairly open-minded but i think being single means that you

00:35:48.100 are focusing on yourself and not letting any person in your life take up too much time for you um

00:35:53.940 unless you're ready to be in that type of committed relationship so right now you're currently seeing

00:35:58.740 like one person yeah yeah so like side pieces i'll never side piece even if i'm single i think

00:36:06.340 it comes from a place of like if you are eventually going to date that person and i think they find out

00:36:12.340 that you maybe weren't committing as much time to them as they thought i just think there has to be a

00:36:17.540 lot of communication in any type of like talking stage okay so um for me i've been single for most

00:36:25.380 of my life like i said i was only in one relationship um i don't like being with someone i feel like drags me

00:36:31.380 down i am very ambitious i um value growth so for me being single is being able to grow um and not settle

00:36:42.660 for anything less so there's nobody in the picture right now no not even talking stage

00:36:48.500 friends with benefits nothing okay uh relationship right yeah okay you said you're you're in the

00:36:56.260 talking stage correct yeah there is somebody that um are there multiple people i'm still going out on

00:37:03.700 other dates but there is a person that i'm talking to like more than the other ones the doors um

00:37:10.100 well aren't you like you have multiple sugar daddies is that correct right now there's just

00:37:15.140 one just one yeah just one yeah i thought you had multiple didn't you in the past i have okay

00:37:25.380 currently there's just one and is that the talking stage or is that the talking stage yeah you're in

00:37:30.340 a talking stage with a sugar daddy yeah okay um actually wait we have some videos tick there's some

00:37:37.140 tick tocks nick there's two of them that we're going to play really quick okay from your account

00:37:43.460 nick if you can pull those tick tocks up full screen oh is it the boat one please be the boat yes i i might

00:37:50.100 have you pause it but just okay pause the audio

00:37:56.180 sure yeah no audio black woman white sugar daddy i'm going to show him my real hair

00:38:09.380 is this the is this your current sugar daddy that's about to come up no i actually broke

00:38:14.500 up with him in january oh good times yeah okay all right uh and then there's another one

00:38:23.460 and this one we will play the audio nick that's the viral one that's the boat right

00:38:27.220 the one yeah hell yeah um

00:38:29.300 oh you don't have to pause it bro

00:38:43.300 was that a roman salute at the end there i don't know uh so is that your current sugar daddy okay

00:39:04.420 i'm so glad that you asked me that because that man was never a sugar daddy oh i don't know yeah

00:39:09.940 no but the internet went crazy about it and there was just there was so much that came from that

00:39:14.580 video over something like so simple but that he was never a sugar daddy boyfriend nope rendezvous no

00:39:22.420 client so just what happened was yeah what's the story okay the world can know so me and my friend

00:39:32.260 uh went out to a bar that night i had just gotten fired from the strip club and we went out we were

00:39:40.660 having a drinking night and we met these two guys and he invited us he was like hey have you girls ever

00:39:45.780 been sailing and we were like no and he invited us to go sailing the next day and that's how that video

00:39:52.100 happened sorry to let you guys down

00:39:54.900 wait he invited you to go sailing yeah and you met him at the strip club no we met him at the bar

00:40:03.620 oh at the bar excuse me okay you got fired from yeah okay uh it's a funny video yeah he's singing a

00:40:10.180 song did you normally find yourself on boats with met geriatric men no i think that might have been

00:40:17.620 the first time the first one yeah how old was the the guy in the first video i have oh wait

00:40:22.020 with like uh no i actually don't know fox is that what to be honest i would guess like

00:40:26.820 50s i would guess like 56 okay but i'm not sure okay good times good times so you're in the talking

00:40:34.820 stage with your current sugar daddy what's the uh how did you meet him seeking no so he found me on

00:40:40.020 instagram i was doing a bikini contest in vegas and another girl had posted the video and he found me

00:40:46.980 through her page okay yeah what and what's the arrangement that you guys have what's your like

00:40:53.860 allowance and other stuff with him and that's why we're kind of moving to the talking stage because

00:41:00.180 it was never really like discussed like i know we're giving him the label sugar daddy but he's not

00:41:06.900 really like a sugar daddy and he just like willingly sends me money all the time i think that we started

00:41:12.260 talking in january and he sent me like twenty thousand dollars but probably more and in one

00:41:20.980 transaction or no like over collect uh yeah okay and like even right now he's like help but that was

00:41:27.460 just one month right no no no from january to like right now so three months yeah and he's helping me

00:41:34.820 like start my business like he's um i'm doing brand strategy it was like thirty five hundred dollars

00:41:40.420 and he's like completely taking care of that because he just wants me to be successful

00:41:45.620 i'm very grateful i'm very lucky

00:41:50.500 um so you said he sent you initially like about 20 000 is that all that he sent you no how much has

00:42:00.660 he sent you total so to be honest i don't know it's been a lot and that doesn't include like

00:42:07.140 like the botox or the fillers or all the amazon gifts like he's just naturally wants to spoil me

00:42:18.500 do you want to estimate i would guess in like cash like 20 000 and then maybe in gifts um

00:42:26.660 um maybe like 25 26 so almost like 50 000 total no like wait did i do the math wrong oh i'm sorry so

00:42:36.660 like is my math 20 000 and like cash but like 6 000 and like gifts and oh i see okay all right wait i

00:42:45.220 thought you said about about 20 000 in gifts i thought that's what you said total yeah i would

00:42:52.260 say probably like 26 in total okay yeah and my rent on auto pay too so i guess i forgot to like

00:42:59.380 mention that you paid your rent and pays for your car as well my car's already paid off well then what's

00:43:07.860 the auto auto auto pay i think is what she's saying oh auto pay okay sorry so she pays your okay

00:43:14.660 got it you thought she was like talking about automobiles yeah well i didn't i didn't know what

00:43:20.820 she was referencing that makes sense that makes sense um so okay how many you said that previous

00:43:25.780 times you've had multiple sugar daddies though uh how many sugar daddy right now you have one

00:43:31.380 what's the most that you've ever had at any given point so that's a little bit harder to say because

00:43:37.700 i do focus on like one person at a time but like separately other people will send me like

00:43:42.900 amounts of money okay so how many have you had total give it a few let's get their stories before i

00:43:51.540 start wrecking everybody okay okay wait we could hear you andrew i don't know if we're oh sorry did you

00:43:57.940 intend bro did you intend for us to hear that andrew bro you gotta mute your microphone if you're

00:44:04.740 gonna you gotta mute it uh to be honest i'm not sure yeah you don't know yeah i don't know

00:44:14.580 i think you do know i really don't though i'm sitting here trying to think and i'm like how

00:44:18.500 much time do we have so i'm not sure better better question maybe and this is just out of my own

00:44:23.860 curiosity on a monthly basis what's the most you've ever made from people just randomly sending

00:44:29.700 you money on in one month maybe like 25 000 wow forgive my ignorance on this but these are people

00:44:41.220 that literally just like find you on instagram they send you a dm and they say hey what's your venmo

00:44:46.900 hey how can i send you this giant pile of cash how does that process work now it is um previously

00:44:54.180 i was an exotic dancer so i was meeting guys in the strip club and you know some of the money would

00:45:00.100 be money that i made at work and then some of it would be like hey i really like you um can i see

00:45:05.940 you outside of work so they we would figure that out interesting okay yeah what would you say is the so

00:45:12.500 you don't have any idea how many total have you have you had more than 10 sugar daddies

00:45:19.220 the part where i guess i'm like stumbling on is like i call them sugar daddies for like the internet

00:45:26.660 just to give them a label i would see it more so as like a spoiled girlfriend relationship

00:45:32.660 and if that's the case like if you're asking me how many men have i had send me money just like

00:45:37.860 to be around me i have no idea that's a unlimited amount of men

00:45:45.940 okay uh what would you say is the average age of the sugar daddies i know this might be you know

00:45:52.100 the age thing yeah i was gonna say this might be a difficult topic because i really don't talk about

00:45:56.100 it we don't talk about it okay what's the oldest age of any i would sugar daddies guess 56 56 okay

00:46:04.980 all right interesting good times yeah good times have any of them sent you money and you've never

00:46:13.380 even met them in person yes so the guy that i'm talking to right now i didn't meet him until

00:46:19.940 after he spent how much

00:46:24.580 12 000

00:46:25.220 that's a lot of money damn what a little slate on oh there's andrew um kind of life on easy

00:46:39.780 mode a little bit i don't think that's true at all you don't think it's life on easy mode for

00:46:45.460 someone yeah i really gotta hustle to have men send you tens of thousands of dollars it's uh it's

00:46:51.300 difficult work early on in my life yeah it was like a really big hustle um i know you guys don't

00:46:57.940 like necessarily believe in spirituality but i really do believe that the more that you heal

00:47:03.300 you kind of just like radiate on this like frequency where the universe like just spoils you

00:47:09.060 you radiate on the sex worker frequency if that's what you want to call it hell yeah

00:47:14.900 but it's so you you do this healing you heal yourself and then because i think a lot of

00:47:21.220 people would say that sex work tends to be damaging it is so you heal yours it is okay

00:47:27.940 how so so i'm thinking going back from like the strip club you don't realize how bad it is until

00:47:36.180 you get out and i didn't realize like i was working i won't say exactly where but i was making like a

00:47:41.220 really good amount of money like anywhere from two thousand to six thousand dollars a night just

00:47:46.740 working in the club and you get so addicted to that money and that lifestyle and then you come

00:47:51.620 out of it and you're like whoa i put up with so much shit from men that i didn't realize how

00:47:59.540 damaging that was to like my boundaries and my self-esteem because i was doing it for money

00:48:04.420 like i was putting it myself in a lower vibration and a lower frequency so i could go home with a

00:48:09.460 certain amount of money do you think that's exactly what's happening with only fans as well

00:48:14.420 and with people paying you money to watch videos of you on the grid one motorsports donated two

00:48:19.620 hundred dollars thank you it is easy math she is a who and sells herself to men which is why she does

00:48:26.180 not talk about it because it is disgusting nothing complicated just to who may god find mercy for you as i

00:48:35.140 cannot no one asked for your mercy yeah and the same man that's sending a thousand dollars so you can

00:48:41.940 shit talk on youtube yeah okay good luck how's that don't you think that that's more noble than a guy

00:48:48.340 sending 20 000 dollars i was just like i was still talking hold on reiki and tarot are tools of obfuscation

00:48:57.300 hiding her age is just another element of her con now she is revealing the extent of her grift

00:49:03.380 to quote java millie i pa fuera i would kind of agree that it is part of the con like the art of

00:49:12.420 seduction is kind of a con you're like learning how to manipulate people to a certain extent

00:49:20.180 well at least you're honest about it i guess yeah wait i am really really curious to know though so you

00:49:25.700 say you were so up close to the abuse and the self-esteem damage and the financial allure of

00:49:34.900 working in the strip club and you didn't realize how bad that was until you got out how is that

00:49:39.780 different fundamentally from what you're doing right now as an only fans creator and posting illicit

00:49:43.780 content online for money so with only fans you're allowed to choose what kind of content that you

00:49:49.700 create i'm not making anything where i feel like i'm degrading myself i love being naked i love like

00:49:56.340 naturally i love being naked and i take pictures of myself naked and if someone's gonna buy them okay

00:50:02.180 i don't have a problem with that does that put you at a higher vibrational frequency would you say that

00:50:08.180 the wattage increases the i would say frequency of the nudes that it doesn't really affect my frequency

00:50:15.300 like i'm not yeah it takes you from like a low frequency to a high frequency it doesn't affect my

00:50:22.500 frequency at all it helps my bank account wait go from like 100 megahertz to 150 megahertz something

00:50:29.860 something like that no no i'm serious how is this is measurable right frequency yeah your frequency is

00:50:40.820 measurable am i am i incorrect about that i'm sure you think i was cracking a joke i wasn't i don't

00:50:46.500 know how to measure your frequency yeah you have to like ask someone that does wait i thought you do

00:50:52.740 oh you don't like you don't measure your frequency but i can't you can't measure somebody's frequency no

00:50:58.740 could are you able to do reiki on inanimate objects or is it like only on humans it has to be like

00:51:04.020 living it has to be living yeah could you do like a demonstration on on like that energy drink really

00:51:11.380 quick grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars of course you do not have a problem with

00:51:17.140 any of it you harlot you are a predator lying and cheating and stealing your way through life

00:51:22.900 you suck the life from all around you get help grid one is just going in

00:51:28.900 i think he's upset about the age thing he's allowed to be would you would you say that your

00:51:33.380 standard is like i don't know 304 megawatts that's like maybe the standard for you

00:51:41.700 next question frequency like is this like kelvin or joules

00:51:46.420 takes me back to high school chemistry right there wait uh okay let me get into some of my

00:51:51.460 pre-show notes here so um let's see here uh wait who's uh oh yeah that let me okay wait hold on one

00:52:01.460 sec what's going on here uh yeah okay weird uh how do you say your name again loose loose how do you spell

00:52:13.220 it l-u-l-u-c is that right so um there's a little history a little history here um

00:52:20.180 um we i think we reached like we sent out one of our in mass invites and you received one

00:52:27.380 and uh it sounded like you were not not a fan of the show but we finally we got you on um

00:52:36.180 yeah so at the time i think i had a friend of mine just come on the show who's on the show okay um and

00:52:42.900 she is a mixed race black woman and she was on the show and had some aspects of conversation that

00:52:54.660 resulted in her getting a lot of just hate mail and kind of the devil's advocacy and i think i was

00:53:02.260 at a point my one i'm very loyal to my friendships and like i really care about um

00:53:07.860 um the girls you know so i was very defensive towards that but i also think there is a tendency

00:53:15.460 when men play devil's advocacy that just kind of often puts a panel of women in the position where

00:53:22.980 they do receive public ridicule so i think at the time i was just not um in a position of being

00:53:29.940 confident enough in myself to have these type of conversations with understanding that

00:53:35.300 there are those varying opinions and you can face scrutiny you know this was maybe two years ago

00:53:42.340 or a year ago i was younger maybe about a year ago was uh the friend in question you said that she was

00:53:49.780 mixed race i think i know who you're referring to uh i think we were having a conversation of would you

00:53:55.620 date a police officer and uh she said something about uh she would not date a police officer her words

00:54:04.020 were a bit more belligerent than that but uh and i i asked her well why and then i think i gave a bit

00:54:11.300 of pushback essentially saying well uh i almost is this the one she's talking about police and then i

00:54:19.460 kind of very politely interjected and i said well i just no i think i said i disagree that was the

00:54:25.220 extent of the and then she says like oh i bet you would white boy is that the one that's the one

00:54:32.420 should we find the clip i don't know if we can find let me see if i can find the clip wait so god

00:54:37.780 i love her that's okay that's the one okay the weather boy clip you guys know i'm talking about

00:54:47.860 and so she'd been on the show and uh i think the clip maybe got went viral because uh yes in addition

00:54:58.420 to saying that calling me white boy i think two times and then uh she said that i wouldn't be able

00:55:05.220 to understand where she's coming from because of my skin color i think she also said that uh you can't

00:55:13.140 be racist towards white people which i think also got people a little riled up so do you agree do you i

00:55:20.340 just do you agree with her or i think um i think there is some level of one i mean we're young women

00:55:29.460 coming on here and just kind of facing the forefront of discovering who we are and how we perceive um

00:55:36.260 socioeconomic problems or police brutality discussions but i think coming from her standpoint of the racial

00:55:43.940 barrier that does exist in um policing especially in america um institutionalized policing and a history

00:55:53.220 of such matters i think you can't fully understand her perspective or maybe why she's defensive in

00:56:00.660 the way that she was three five nine six seven donated two hundred dollars hey brian first time

00:56:07.700 donato here question for the ladies what is the least a guy can make an hour for you to date him

00:56:14.340 okay we'll answer this one really quick uh minimum amount a guy has to make an hour for you to date him

00:56:19.940 um i don't care if he pays for everything what do you mean if he i don't i don't care how much he makes

00:56:27.140 you'll date him take me to dinner still then no problem you will date a guy so long as he pays for

00:56:32.580 all the dates if we were in a full relationship i would be fine with a mutual date but the first

00:56:39.700 date i would expect them to pay it doesn't matter what about the first few dates second third fourth

00:56:44.020 still want them to pay or fine if i really liked them i could do 50 50. but if you like them a little

00:56:49.700 bit less you'd still prefer for them to if i like them a little less i wouldn't go on multiple dates

00:56:55.620 but you that you used a qualifier there if i really liked them so there's some degree of less

00:57:01.540 liking where you would still tolerate a date but you'd still prefer them first date if you don't

00:57:06.660 you know if you're not enjoying i've had dates where i've paid in full because i hated the date

00:57:11.540 so much okay i think maybe other girls can relate to that okay um sure what about you what was the

00:57:19.540 question what is the least a guy can make an hour for you to date him um so for me personally i would

00:57:25.780 want someone to meet my level and ambition um and that's kind of what i'm looking what's your level

00:57:31.620 of ambition um like i wake up i start working i don't stop working until i go to bed i would want

00:57:37.380 someone that has goals in their life that strives to like do something with their life i don't want

00:57:41.380 someone who's just sitting around not doing a whole lot i'd want someone who wants to better their life

00:57:48.260 step by step again and again and basically like never stop that cycle so that's what i would so like

00:57:53.780 you wouldn't date like would you date a guy who works nine to five yeah okay like if he's like

00:57:59.700 ambitious and like wants to like let's say he's not ambitious but he has a nine to five job no okay

00:58:06.020 so need to be ambitious and okay i need someone that meets the same values that i have for myself

00:58:11.700 otherwise it's not going to work either that person's going to make their themselves feel smaller

00:58:15.540 i'm going to feel smaller and it's just it's when you did a blue collar worker yeah okay i think for

00:58:21.140 right now um i'm 21 i think we're all still kind of in college and everything um so as long as you're

00:58:27.300 you know pursuing your own career and everything i think that's cool but later on down the road i

00:58:32.180 would like a man to make a good amount of money because i want to live a luxury or at least a happy

00:58:38.820 healthy kind of lifestyle well you just said you want to live a luxury life um and i certainly agree

00:58:46.020 with you i think when you're in college the money component isn't really you know you're you're 19 20

00:58:53.460 21 i don't think people are really like oh is this guy making this much a year like i don't think because

00:58:58.820 the men you're dating they're probably also in college right they probably maybe they're employed

00:59:03.460 maybe they're not but uh you said though later down the road you do want a guy who's a bit more

00:59:08.660 established when you say later down the road uh do you mean like late 20s early 20s or mid 20s i

00:59:15.700 feel like whenever i'm ready to get married whenever i'm ready to you know be serious with

00:59:19.620 someone then that's like i think that's just kind of like what i look for in a man too i'm not i don't

00:59:25.300 want a bum necessarily like i don't want someone who's not gonna go to college or not that going

00:59:30.180 to college really means you have to be you know go to college to make money but okay i just think it's

00:59:37.060 kind of so you you did say though the guy that you do finally want to settle down with uh do you have a

00:59:43.060 sense of what his minimum yearly income you'd like it to be for him i i want that's a hard question

00:59:50.340 six figures yes okay but i really like 100k 200k i'd say like 100k like i don't expect crazy

01:00:02.820 okay but i also don't expect the bare minimum okay um and are you gonna want to work too yeah 100

01:00:11.060 okay even and you want kids how many kids two and you want to be working while you're pregnant and

01:00:17.940 during those early years i would like i would like to have that you know time off okay so i could have

01:00:22.100 that support for my husband but you said you want a luxury lifestyle what does that entail i want to

01:00:27.540 be able to travel how frequently internationally or nationally both you know i grew up traveling a

01:00:34.020 lot with my mom she's a single mother and she's still you know we went to china you're all over europe

01:00:39.220 in a lot of places so i think if if someone you know in her position can do it i think that's kind

01:00:44.980 of like what's what i look for kind of too because if my mom can do it you know she was going to school

01:00:51.700 working two jobs and she busted her ass for me and what was your father were they divorced when you

01:00:58.660 were young um was he paying alimony or child support or anything like that i'm not sure to be honest

01:01:05.620 good well i asked just because you say well she was able to do it but i mean depending on the

01:01:13.220 amount of child support it's not clear if it was solely her that was enabling my mom's a hustler

01:01:18.740 i'll say that fair enough um i don't know all the details uh okay so you'd want a guy luxury lifestyle

01:01:24.420 so multiple vacations a year you want to remain in southern california yeah large uh how many bedrooms

01:01:31.220 in the house however many you said you want my kids two kids about three to four three to four

01:01:37.540 kids do does each kid get a bedroom yeah i would hope so okay so we're talking four or five six

01:01:44.260 bedroom house um do you want a luxury car i would love one love one okay um but i can also support

01:01:55.460 myself and by myself those things what are you studying in college again business business okay

01:02:02.340 okay uh so minimum income uh six-figure salary okay what about you um what was the question i'm sorry

01:02:12.900 yeah it was uh question for the ladies hold on what is the least a guy can make an hour for you to date

01:02:20.660 him i have no idea i have never asked the man how much he makes an hour or honestly how much he makes

01:02:28.900 a year i kind of agree with her you've never asked i've never asked like as long as that man's able

01:02:34.900 to like provide for me i'm happy well would you date a guy who makes a minimum wage probably not uh in

01:02:42.580 college i went down that route and i started dancing and he started to hate me and it just never

01:02:48.740 like if you're if there's a big wage gap it doesn't work out wait there's if there's a big

01:02:56.500 yeah if i'm making like a lot more money than the guy that i'm dating like there just seems that

01:03:02.740 jealousy is always accrued okay yeah i would say someone who like makes a comparable amount to me

01:03:10.180 obviously right now i'm a barista i'm a minimum wage worker so it's not like i just don't want to be the

01:03:15.460 one paying for everything basically like kind of what you're you're 23 right yeah are you in school

01:03:20.340 right now i am i go to ucsb what remind me what are you studying political science political science

01:03:24.900 and you're currently a barista would you date a barista yeah okay currently currently anyways um

01:03:30.020 but later on down the road you said you'd going forward yeah someone who could support a family

01:03:34.740 which it depends on where you live for the family what that would be but or at least someone who could

01:03:39.380 contribute 50 to supporting a family okay what about you um as long as he or she has a job i don't

01:03:46.420 really care sure yeah um yeah as long as they have a good work ethic and a livable income for whatever

01:03:53.060 area they're in then yeah okay isabel i'm not dating so it's really hard for me to answer this question

01:03:59.780 but i do think it's interesting we were talking about priorities and and your finances and your early

01:04:04.500 20s versus later on in life i'm at that stage that a lot of you guys are talking about later on the

01:04:09.140 road when you start thinking about buying a house and having kids and paying the mortgage and car

01:04:13.700 payments and all of that stuff so it's fascinating in my own life how i've approached that a whole lot

01:04:18.020 differently i think your priorities just really change i think a lot less about luxury and designer

01:04:23.700 brands and how fancy of a car i can drive or how big of a house really the simplistic things in life

01:04:30.100 look a whole lot more appealing as i get closer to my wedding day and a beautiful little house on

01:04:34.820 a little land beautiful family sounds pretty darn great to me but i'm actually really surprised to

01:04:39.300 hear such common language around the table today about someday when i get married and have kids out

01:04:44.260 of total curiosity how many of you still want that how many of you want to get married and still have

01:04:48.580 kids almost everybody maybe not um not kids i don't think that's the route for me how about marriage

01:04:55.140 yeah i'd be down for marriage if i find a partner that i enjoy and we're like sorry if i find a

01:05:00.180 partner that i enjoy and we're both on the same level i'd want to spend my time with that partner

01:05:04.260 rather than like kids potentially like ruining the relationship that i have with someone i've finally

01:05:09.060 like settled down with honestly i'm floored that every single person around this table wants to

01:05:15.060 get married and it really mirrors my last experience on the whatever podcast which i just wrote about

01:05:19.060 in my book actually you know i think a lot of people expect our generation to be

01:05:23.700 extremely degenerate we are bucking tradition and we don't appreciate traditional and timeless

01:05:29.700 values we certainly don't live in a very pro marriage culture we have the lowest marriage

01:05:33.860 rate america has ever seen actually right now although new studies are saying it's bouncing back

01:05:37.860 after covid which is great but i've heard that 93 percent of our generation mostly in college still

01:05:43.140 still wants to get married and that's exactly what we're seeing around this table so that's just

01:05:47.220 a fascinating observation i think it's really are you really seeing it around the table because

01:05:51.620 what i'm seeing around the table is a bunch of women who are like yeah sure i'll marry a dude

01:05:55.140 who makes 150 000 a year and pays for all my shit that sounds a lot different than i'm looking to get

01:06:01.060 married to me that sounds that sounds different not absolutely not i'm curious which one of us said that

01:06:09.460 uh well so as we're going around the table right what do you think that when you say a man who can support

01:06:17.060 himself and is supporting himself and can support a family if he lives in the santa barbara area what

01:06:22.660 do you think that would take if you had to guess um probably over 300 000 a year but we're not talking

01:06:28.980 about this specific location we're not including the fact that each of us are i think everyone around

01:06:34.820 the table is willing to have a two-income household do you agree or do you disagree i think partnership is

01:06:41.380 everything my dad and my stepmom my dad is 16 years older than my stepmom they've been together for 18

01:06:47.620 years now he invested in her company and now she makes more money than him and she's the main provider

01:06:53.700 of our household i think he gave her wait he gave her money for her company and she's paid it all back

01:07:00.100 her company is doing much better um or it's doing well i mean and now she makes more money than him and

01:07:06.580 pays his mortgage um and she's also helping me pay for my college so yeah that's great that's

01:07:11.940 called dividends that's called dividends that's how that works when you invest in a company and

01:07:15.620 it does well you get money back out of it that's how it works but she is a female he could have done

01:07:20.980 he could have done that without any marriage right yeah but i think if you find a partner who's willing

01:07:26.020 to work with you and grow with you and create a sustainable life for you and a future family i think

01:07:32.180 that's an absolutely beautiful thing for both partners to have ambition and also i would be

01:07:37.460 perfectly happy you know marrying a woman who makes more money than me or less money than me or marrying

01:07:43.140 a man who makes more money than me or less money than me as long as um in our combined household we can

01:07:50.020 ensure the safety of one another and we both have similar mindsets with financial planning investments

01:07:56.260 retirement funds um college funds if we are planning to have children uh roth iras that type of issue

01:08:05.220 what about uh what about the love thing is that is that is that the most important factor or the money

01:08:10.020 for marriage absolutely love for marriage is that more important than money is that the question

01:08:15.140 yeah nothing in life is free if you marry someone for the money you earn every penny that's what my

01:08:21.140 mom would tell me when i was a kid i'm sure she would so it would be money that's no no the point

01:08:28.500 is is that if you marry someone for the money you earn every penny because you you choose a life of

01:08:32.500 unhappiness yeah i think that that was the lesson she always taught me you have to be open-minded you know

01:08:37.620 not everything in life is material and i think because there are so many ways to make money independently

01:08:44.740 um and i mean for example writing your own book and like creating your own platform i think there's

01:08:50.100 less of a necessity for women to marry solely for money when in the past and not that long ago we

01:08:55.780 couldn't even have our own credit cards you know without the permission of a man but you also didn't

01:09:00.100 incur any debt that's why you couldn't have credit cards yeah but we were owned property by men you

01:09:05.700 know you weren't owned property it's ridiculous there's not a point in human history where women have

01:09:10.420 been property of men that's not what i said i said you weren't owned property in this country

01:09:15.780 ever me personally no but no no women women were not in the united states women were never considered

01:09:21.700 legal property of another another person but if you are if you're if you're don't have body autonomy

01:09:28.260 and you can't make your own income and you have to rely on being married in order to have any type

01:09:34.100 of social standing women could always make their own income in the united states where on earth did you

01:09:38.260 get the idea that they couldn't guys did you learn this in feminist studies studies class 101 like

01:09:44.820 white women like we're not really accepted into the working class if you want to argue i i'm not saying

01:09:52.020 there's was no room for income and that there was no room for any type of sustainable life or women to

01:09:59.140 you know create some type of wealth until really war time women weren't allowed in the workforce and that

01:10:05.540 was only because there were no men you get the idea where in the workforce were they not they were

01:10:09.300 still they were still nurses they were still teachers they were still doing all sorts of

01:10:12.740 nurses and teachers society what do you mean they were limited to domestic right now by the way they

01:10:16.980 were doing they were they were doing hang on just calm down relax they were doing clerical work they

01:10:23.220 were teaching they were nursing they're doing all the same jobs that they're basically doing right now

01:10:28.580 okay well there are plenty of women who are moving up in corporate worlds as well as moving up in

01:10:34.420 different sections there's not very many women who are moving up with a corporate ladder compared

01:10:38.900 to 50 years ago there's so few female ceos for a reason they're not they don't gravitate towards

01:10:44.180 that kind of work okay you're right you're right i'm wrong women are just they are only meant to do

01:10:51.140 domestic work no i don't i don't think that's what he's saying that's not what i said that's a

01:10:55.700 mischaracterization i'm just explaining to you the reality i don't understand why you're being so

01:11:00.100 aggressive i've been mean to you just explaining to you go for it um what the what the reality of

01:11:04.900 the situation is go ahead and then isabel will go go ahead what does this have to do with women not

01:11:09.140 being able to own like have their own credit cards or open a bank account in their own well because

01:11:13.060 women not being able to have bank accounts and credit cards because they weren't allowed to incur

01:11:17.700 debt this was great because right now the biggest holders of debt in the united states are women

01:11:23.140 it's crushing for most women before that men had to incur all the debt so the wife could go out and

01:11:29.060 spend all of the money that she wanted in her husband's name and he had to incur the debt even

01:11:33.780 post divorce he still had to take care of the debt she had none of it in her name this was one of the

01:11:39.300 primary uh arguments against feminisms from the from the anti-suffragettes is that they did not

01:11:44.820 want to incur debt and now women have racked up tons and tons of it and so have men it's crushing for

01:11:50.580 men too so i mean i don't really think anyone should be forced to incur debt so i'm not sure why

01:11:55.220 well you know what i think that if i asked a man if he got married if all of the debt would be

01:12:00.500 incurred by the woman and all he had to do was not have a credit card bank can i take that deal in

01:12:04.340 five seconds what do you mean by not be forced to incur any debt it means that everything that i

01:12:11.460 all money that i spend on grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars in 1877 the woman was elected mayor

01:12:19.060 in kansas your history sucks accuracy matters you are in fact wrong dot feminism has failed you

01:12:26.980 patriarchy is the way to the truth and stands ready to help be better yeah good one thank you

01:12:33.460 uh you had a question for her yeah i just wanted to get some clarification there nobody should be

01:12:38.500 forced to incur debt what does that mean just like in a purely hypothetical like perfect world no

01:12:43.540 one would be taking on debt to like go to college well let's talk about the real world okay in the

01:12:48.100 real world i mean that's not possible yeah but i don't think that it should i mean basically you're

01:12:53.300 implying that it's good that it's men's responsibility to incur all debt and i feel like if that were actually

01:12:58.100 the case then we would be in a different argument where it would be like well women suck because women

01:13:02.660 don't incur any debt and we incur all of their debt so i feel like it's just kind of like a bad faith

01:13:06.580 argument i don't know well it's not a bad faith argument it's just giving a descriptor for why it happened

01:13:12.180 that way why it was that women and there was far more anti-suffragettes than there were pro-suffragettes

01:13:18.820 by the way made very compelling arguments like they didn't want to get drafted for instance they

01:13:23.620 didn't want see what what the anti-suffragettes said was that women had the moral high ground

01:13:29.780 because they weren't political tools they weren't political tools because they couldn't vote so they

01:13:34.260 weren't tapped into as being political tools so when they said something they said it from a position of

01:13:39.780 moral authority they weren't being tapped into so this is how they were able to argue successfully

01:13:46.100 for for things in women's interest without being just considered another voting block that needed

01:13:50.580 to be appealed to when it came to debt and things like this it is true that women didn't hold their

01:13:56.340 they could have bank accounts by the way but most of the time when they open up lines of credit and

01:14:01.540 debt and accounts it was always in their husband's name but the husband was also responsible for all of

01:14:06.420 the debt and the women weren't and even when the man died the woman would get his property but

01:14:11.780 it could it may not be the same uh if a woman died that he would automatically default and get the

01:14:16.580 property she was able to incur all sorts of wealth for herself and didn't have to spend it do you think

01:14:22.180 that's a more preferable system would you like to like go back to that financial well i think it's i

01:14:27.060 think it's a more preferable system to begin to move women outside of the workplace that way we can go

01:14:33.780 back to a family dynamic that works and we can get the reproductive uh health of the united states

01:14:38.900 back up because right now it's in the gutter i don't know if you know this or not but it's in the

01:14:42.900 gutter so our birth rates way low then why would it be a problem for any of us to say we'd like a man

01:14:48.020 who can support a family like if why is that a problem if you think that men should be incurring all

01:14:52.260 the debt and taking on all the financial responsibility if a woman says well i'd like a man who can support a

01:14:57.140 family in santa barbara because because this is a this is a cyclical problem the problem is if you

01:15:03.620 say i would love to have a single income support me but then at the same time not recognize the

01:15:08.500 problem that if you double the workforce you're going to have the wages of men that you're basically

01:15:13.380 perpetuating the same issue that you're against jump in i just i think last thing after you make

01:15:26.100 your point go ahead no no you're fine say your thing but i'm going to move on after that go ahead

01:15:30.340 yeah no i just think it's for me it's kind of the constant dichotomy of men constantly arguing oh well

01:15:36.100 women want women or women want men to pay for everything and want us to take care of them but

01:15:40.340 then it's also the idea of oh well women can't do any jobs that aren't nursing or being a teacher

01:15:46.100 or doing all these things naturally in the workforce because women whether or not you want to argue these

01:15:51.300 aspects of history on a mass scale entered the workforce at a later date the same thing with how

01:15:58.260 women entered professional sports at a later date or any other kind of gendered aspect of life which is

01:16:05.700 most of society you're welcome to interject well really quick on the professional sports thing so

01:16:11.380 are you what exactly when you bring up professional sports sure because women got into professional

01:16:16.980 sports at a later date that's the reason why there's like a paid discrepancy in no i think of course

01:16:23.220 there's a paid discrepancy in sporting events based off of turnout and these other things but i'm

01:16:27.540 saying there's no foundation of growth if you are able to acquire wealth and work jobs for hundreds of

01:16:35.220 years whether it is or decades whether it's being a doctor whether it's being a lawyer and these

01:16:40.980 institutions only existed under the guidance of men being able to do those things such as harvard

01:16:46.740 only being a male only school until the last 50 or 60 years yeah but my okay wait wait i'm still

01:16:54.020 talking stop that's ridiculous oh it is not because my grandmother women have always hang

01:16:58.900 on women have always out women have always outdone men academically including in high school they've

01:17:04.580 always had better scores always that has been the case and there was no barrier for public education

01:17:10.260 early feminists were flying all over the world they were writing books or writing pamphlets or writing

01:17:15.300 essays and they were highly educated pushing them out of those domains of academia i think

01:17:21.780 i hear you and i understand that that's your perspective and i want to acknowledge that

01:17:25.700 there are so no there are so many smart scholarly women but it is an absolute reality that women's

01:17:32.260 work has been discredited i can cite um i you know i study biological theory nonsense who's well what

01:17:38.740 woman's discredited because look up look up when women were allowed to attend harvard university for me

01:17:44.180 quickly yeah why but who cares if that was exclusive there was tons of other universities for them to attend

01:17:49.700 to and what is the problem with having a male-only college anyway if somebody wants to have one

01:17:54.020 if prestigious universities catered exclusively to men and women entered these different aspects of

01:18:00.100 the workforce later it will take more time that's not what happened and gradual project it will take gradual

01:18:07.540 progress for women to continue to be in those fields of study are there probably statistically in the

01:18:13.620 u.s more male chemists or lawyers at ucsb for example the majority of professors on the panel of the

01:18:22.340 chemistry department are white men but does that mean in the next 20 years

01:18:26.580 in applied science why they all get so tell me the science tell me the science of why men perform

01:18:33.380 higher in in chemistry look at some point you gotta let me respond no go ahead tell me what you're

01:18:38.740 doing is you talk so much i can't i can't actually okay tell me the statistics of how men perform

01:18:43.860 higher i'll try to go point by point let's go let's go with point one sure yes it is true that when

01:18:49.060 you're talking about um you know scientific fields especially chemistry that's an applied science

01:18:54.660 women don't go for applied science that's actually why not that's actually not entirely

01:18:58.020 true women make up the majority of stem degrees today let me finish okay okay calm down soft sciences

01:19:06.020 are preferable by women they prefer soft science i don't know why right nobody knows why well i mean

01:19:12.500 we have an inkling as to why but they don't they don't prefer it the hard sciences are preferred by

01:19:17.380 men that's why you see mostly men inside of hard science fields that is true

01:19:21.140 yeah so so that's point one as of recently the majority of stem degrees actually are being

01:19:27.540 pursued by women i think a lot of that can be attributed to the modern cultural feminine

01:19:33.140 feminism movement no no no the devil's in the details what kind of stem degrees largely the

01:19:39.540 sciences i i have a degree two degrees actually in biomedical sciences one in undergrad and one in

01:19:45.140 graduate school what about engineering but correct women statistically make up less of engineering

01:19:50.260 programs until recently women women are becoming a much larger yeah growing demographic in these

01:19:56.340 things but this is my my question is hang on hang on hang on just saying it's a stem field is not

01:20:00.900 relevant for instance if you look at the replication crisis you'll note that it's not just sociology which

01:20:07.140 it affects but the medical field as well medical fields are full of stem degrees however it's not

01:20:12.420 always replicatable science it fails up to sixty percent of that's still a swap sports just saying

01:20:19.220 that it's a stem field doesn't mean anything yeah the stupid in you must really hurt men went to harvard

01:20:25.460 or yale which were male only women went to brown and others brown was all female are you trying to be

01:20:32.580 this stupid anyway my question is you know we can talk about men generally having more analytically

01:20:39.860 structured brains and that's why they've pursued applied sciences larger than the soft sciences

01:20:44.020 which women generally have pursued out of a more empathetic emotional perspective historically and

01:20:48.980 they still do tend to pursue those career paths i guess my question for you loose is if women have

01:20:54.900 been strategically held back for so long by society if they've in your own words taken so much extra

01:21:00.740 time to be admitted to schools like harvard or to be given professional athletic opportunities etc we

01:21:06.740 could keep going example by example then what's the solution are you just saying women are always

01:21:11.380 going to be considered in your world view second class citizens or is there is there a change that

01:21:16.820 needs to happen in your perspective societally to accomplish that i'm not saying that women are

01:21:21.700 second class citizens in the united states and i'm not saying that in my personal experience i've felt

01:21:26.820 second class to anyone i i acknowledged certain privileges that i've had and the ability to pursue education

01:21:33.060 education etc but i do absolutely think when there is a woman expectation for example when my dad left

01:21:41.780 my mom she became a stay-at-home single mother and she was living off of of alimony and child support

01:21:49.220 but she needed to be taking care of two kids in the home at that time and the court kind of put that

01:21:57.780 on to her my dad did not want custody and i think very often women are forced into positions of

01:22:03.700 nurturing and caring for whether it's their partners their children etc and i'm not saying that that's a

01:22:09.460 bad thing or a wrong thing and i'm not saying that you know i personally do feel like i do have some level

01:22:14.900 of a nurturing or more maternal aspect to me that maybe a man might not have but i think it's very hard

01:22:21.620 to succeed in your career for many women who don't have the socioeconomic standing or certain privileges

01:22:28.900 to pursue those fields without you know the consequence of having to take care of you know

01:22:35.460 whether it's younger siblings or their own children or being forced into positions of choosing career

01:22:42.100 versus family i think um is anyone familiar with the the uh poet sylvia plath oh yeah i'm very

01:22:51.700 familiar sylvia plath uh do you do you know how sylvia plath met her demise i do and my point is she

01:22:57.540 writes a tell them how tell them how they she committed suicide and she wasn't necessarily oh

01:23:02.980 excuse me whatever just continue sorry um she wasn't necessarily the greatest person in the world but

01:23:07.780 she did write a poem no she really wasn't was she she's pretty awful wasn't she she was awful

01:23:12.260 but she did write a discussion about a poem called one fig tree and she basically discusses how as a

01:23:19.940 woman she felt like she had three paths in life a famous poet a mother with a good husband and good

01:23:25.860 children or a famous or a scholarly professor and i think that's a choice that women are often expected

01:23:33.220 to choose is family you know career hobbies whereas men often get the immediate option of choosing

01:23:41.300 career and that's not necessarily to say all men want that but i do think women are asked to sacrifice

01:23:47.140 more socially aborted fetuses and she also wrote poems about uh unaliving she also wrote all kinds of

01:23:53.860 insane poems she was she was she was and but she's a okay she is she a lunatic any more than

01:23:59.620 any crazy feminist no she's not any more of a lunatic than any of them she was actually a

01:24:04.180 self-proclaimed not feminist so do not associate her with that she is a feminist and her husband

01:24:09.140 was a feminist and supported all of her work with his money because she was a feminist he propagated

01:24:14.020 the feminist agenda um but my point is is that i think a lot of women are asked to sacrifice more

01:24:22.820 more individually than men are on a career scale or on a family scale nuclear family for example

01:24:31.220 what so what about the nuclear family is asking women to sacrifice things women how many men do you

01:24:37.620 know that were ever stay at home stay at home dads my dad for one for several years of my childhood

01:24:42.820 not statistically huh no no sorry go ahead go ahead i'm just saying there there is an expectation

01:24:50.020 on women not from whether it's a natural perspective or an evolved perspective women bear children for a

01:24:56.500 duration of nine to ten months they have to take care of them biologically post-birth whether it's

01:25:02.500 through breastfeeding or other acquisitions and i think because of those biological factors we have been

01:25:08.740 forced more into the nurturing role in a social sphere oh wow wait that's a powerful word for

01:25:15.620 force is a really powerful wait hold on hold on hold on can you just repeat you said that

01:25:20.500 how many men do you know who what who were stay at home dads versus grade one motorsports donated 200

01:25:30.020 if you think it is easy to be a man read self-made man by nora vincent your little mind will explode

01:25:37.060 be a man your simplistic arguments insult literally everyone watching this program let the adults

01:25:43.220 talk uh for those who don't know nora vincent a woman who did this like kind of experiment where she

01:25:48.660 basically uh lived as a man i don't think she was uh transgender but she uh dressed like a man

01:25:57.940 looked like a man lived like a man and she was like because she's a feminist oh this is gonna

01:26:02.020 be so easy blah blah all this privilege and then actually it was just totally brutal like the social

01:26:06.980 aspects of it um but you were saying something about uh well how many men do you know who would

01:26:12.900 i i think stay at home agreed but i or to your point i think it is very hard to be a man the same

01:26:19.460 way it's very hard to be a woman the same way it's very hard to be a human being um no part of my

01:26:24.420 argument was saying that it's not what's the thing with the stay-at-home parent though i just think

01:26:28.660 statistically until very recently it was significantly less likely that men would be stay-at-home

01:26:35.460 parents as well as the failure of our career system not allowing men to take paternal leave

01:26:40.820 well do you think that do you think that there's just i would argue that there's like who would you

01:26:49.940 say is to blame for that that like men just they don't want i'm not blaming anyone i'm not blaming

01:26:56.020 anyone i'm saying it is a natural part of our society that women have been forced not forced excuse

01:27:02.420 me yeah right with that earlier didn't you earlier say that you want a guy to pay for the first date

01:27:07.460 if he asked me out if i ask him out i'm happy to pay do you ask guys out yeah i have generally

01:27:12.660 speaking do you think who's initiating first dates um obviously men i would argue 99 of first dates men

01:27:21.220 are the ones initiating i don't know men are kind of scared these days so i would say i would say it's

01:27:26.260 very even but all i was saying all i was saying that because of the actual biological factor of

01:27:33.380 being a child-bearing woman not that all women are i think there is a standard in our society that women

01:27:41.860 are these nurturing roles and that reflects in the careers that you proclaim that women

01:27:47.060 but hold on i'm going back to this you stated something about i mean why hold on hold on why is that

01:27:51.780 you stated you stated something about well men they wouldn't be these stay-at-home fathers well

01:27:56.420 that's amazing i didn't say hold on you said something about i didn't you okay i then restate

01:28:01.780 it for me i'm saying something about when you consider the fact that even if you look in the

01:28:08.100 court of law even when the mother is the unfit parent the court of law in a divorce case will

01:28:13.780 always favor the woman getting custody sounds like a female privilege doesn't it i mean if having to deal

01:28:20.100 with kids three screaming children on your own is a privilege to you maybe but i think that aspect

01:28:25.300 of female privilege was created by if there's a custody if there's a custody dispute somebody's

01:28:31.220 desirous of having custody sure so let's assume that it's the man who's desiring custody and the

01:28:36.180 woman doesn't want it that that wouldn't be a male privilege that he doesn't get guys why do you

01:28:42.580 think i'm saying male privilege or female privilege i'm saying objectively in the court of law they favor

01:28:46.900 women and that's a negative a lot a lot of the time for men who want to participate

01:28:50.740 in parenting i think women are looked at as mothers in society and that's not necessarily

01:28:57.780 always true and not necessarily and men are looked at us as wallets okay providers and

01:29:02.740 disposable i'm sorry that that's been your experience i'm not saying one is worse than

01:29:07.220 the other one's untrue but you said something i'm trying to get back to the original point you

01:29:11.220 said something about single uh stay-at-home fathers yeah what what was your argument i i was just

01:29:17.620 stating that there there are less stay-at-home fathers as well as the failure of our career

01:29:22.820 system that does not allow a lot of men to take that's because of a mating pressure that women put

01:29:28.660 on men not because there's a that's entirely a mating pressure that women impose on men we went

01:29:36.180 around this table all of you said the guy has to make this much money he has to pay for the first

01:29:40.260 date blah blah blah that's a mating pressure you impose i mean i've has nothing to do with

01:29:47.300 multiple different i think it's difficult to argue that oh well this has nothing to do with this and

01:29:54.500 this is the only reason that this is aligned and this is the only problem like none of us are arguing

01:29:59.620 that men don't have problems in dating i'm not saying that it's ethical that men are expected to be

01:30:04.260 providers but when you create a system in which there is a historical aspect where women were

01:30:11.300 meant to provide children and they still are essentially sex to men a man provides his own

01:30:18.260 service that is his service of taking care of his family that system what's wrong with that system

01:30:24.740 that's a good system we need women to provide children nobody else can provide children except

01:30:29.460 women we're in overpopulation actually we're not we're approaching population decline yeah

01:30:34.980 rapidly around the globe line across the board not only are we in decline across the board but if you

01:30:40.420 look at some of the asian nations like south korea for instance it's not even one-to-one for

01:30:45.380 replacement if you look at japan right now they're they're about to have a crisis where they have more

01:30:50.180 elderly people than they have young people to take care of the elderly people the 50 most powerful

01:30:54.820 countries in the world actually cannot replace their current population so my question becomes

01:31:00.100 this to you right my question becomes why is this a bad system why do you think that it's bad that

01:31:07.780 women are moved by society to stay at home and take care of their children why do you think that

01:31:13.060 that's bad that seems to be the most efficient system could you even think of a better system

01:31:17.860 tell me if you could come up with your dream system what would it even be other than that my dream

01:31:23.780 system i i can't wait to have children i love children personally it's never been a question

01:31:28.980 for me i can't wait to have children i love children um i work with kids a bunch and like

01:31:34.020 i think it's such a great blessing uh motherhood not that everyone needs it but for me personally

01:31:40.100 so i'm not at all anti-children but i'm just argue i i personally would love to um have a family and

01:31:47.140 have that dynamic so you actually can't think of a better system than that um in my in my ideal world i

01:31:52.900 would love to have a partner who would go true 50 50 with me on caring for the children as well as

01:31:59.380 um working as much as i work obviously well i mean if he's working if but but if if you had the

01:32:05.620 ideal system wouldn't your ideal system actually be that you could spend all of your time with your

01:32:10.100 children no while your husband worked because i don't women because i would like the um equal

01:32:17.300 sacrifice in my relationship where i love children i can't wait to be a mother but i don't you know i

01:32:22.020 don't need to be my the sole provider of my children for 24 hours a day i would love to have

01:32:26.100 a partnership where they are more than willing to help me you know feed take care of the children

01:32:31.140 if i need a day yeah but how's that equal if he's working um because i could i could work as well

01:32:37.220 there's so many yeah i know but that's my but so this brings us back to the original question then

01:32:41.780 is your time better spent working or is your time better spent at home with your children not

01:32:46.660 outsourcing their care to somebody else while you're working i think for so for instance let's

01:32:50.980 say you had a baby little samantha do you think that little samantha wants to go and get taken care

01:32:56.740 of by ben by some venezuelan immigrant while you go work all day do you think that's my i had an au pair

01:33:02.900 growing up um from she was a haitian au pair and she was one of the most beautiful amazing women and

01:33:08.340 i never felt like it took away from my experience with my you preferred that over your mom

01:33:12.260 mom um i never felt like it took away from my experience with that's not what i asked you did

01:33:17.540 you prefer it over your own mother probably you really you preferred that this this uh my mother

01:33:24.500 not every woman instead of your own mother not every woman can be a great mother not every man

01:33:29.060 can be a great father and i think they'll outsource them so outsource your kids you don't have to

01:33:34.980 if i am in a position in which i have can adjust work hours or take time off of work or make sure my

01:33:41.620 schedule aligns or take off work until my children are in school and only work during

01:33:46.900 school hours etc i find that to be not a problem at all andrew yeah i know i understand what you're

01:33:52.580 saying but let me let me give it back to you one more time why do you think it would be preferable

01:33:57.780 if you had the option to stay at home to outsource your mothering to a stranger of your children how

01:34:03.300 in what world does that i'm not saying that i would have to do it to a stranger of my children

01:34:07.460 um everyone has different relationship dynamics different financial statuses you know maybe i

01:34:13.540 have my my parents are able to help take care or my sister which is a very natural or maybe nobody

01:34:20.420 or maybe the daycare right or don't you think it's preferable for women i would never say to avoid the

01:34:25.540 daycare if you want to ask the question and you want my answer do you want me to answer well your

01:34:29.380 question your answers are really long-winded okay fine i will do short and sweet i will do short and

01:34:34.420 sweet i don't i want to love my children in every way that i can and i want to be an amazing mother

01:34:41.300 and i think if i spend my entire time losing my identity as an individual and only seeing myself

01:34:47.940 as a mother i will not be able to what do you mean only wait what could possibly be more important than

01:34:53.540 being a mother there's nothing you could ever do in your life that's more so for a man it's more

01:34:57.380 important for him to be a father more important than being a mother god being a good one

01:35:01.380 that makes no what that makes no sense that makes so much sense what that makes complete

01:35:09.220 sense also i might be misunderstanding the conversation but wait wait hang on i just

01:35:14.180 want to make sure i got this right what's more important than being a mother okay being a good

01:35:18.180 mother okay great what's more important than being a good mother nothing and i and i will then

01:35:24.340 being a good mother i will take every step in my life to assure that i can be a good mother whether

01:35:29.860 that's working whether that's yeah by outsourcing it to fit to the venezuelan immigrant yeah that

01:35:34.660 your day what's wrong with a venezuelan immigrant maybe she lives at home with me and she's an amazing

01:35:38.900 woman i mean do you consider yourself is his name andrew andrew do you consider yourself like a

01:35:45.380 traditional person like would you say that a traditional mind i don't consider myself trad uh or

01:35:51.540 what is considered to be trad in modernity at all i never have i don't think we should go back to

01:35:56.260 the 1950s or any of this nonsense what i'm saying specifically though is this that there is no

01:36:01.940 better system that any of you can name than the nuclear family for the backbone of society that's

01:36:07.140 going to require stay-at-home mothers there's nothing else that's better than that we see the

01:36:11.140 population declining it's falling off like a rock and so when i ask what is it that's more important

01:36:16.820 than being good mother at home none of you are going to be able to say that that's not the most

01:36:20.740 important job and yet for some reason women seem to want to outsource that job to other people

01:36:26.100 even though it's theirs husband can work take care of you you stay home no i have aspiring dreams that

01:36:31.780 surmount being a mother when there's nothing else you could do that's more important than that can i

01:36:35.940 say something go ahead i think the ideal dynamic would be subjective to the two people in that dynamic

01:36:42.180 and andrew can you try to center yourself go ahead i think it's silly to try and tell other people

01:36:46.500 in these relationships what to do because it's not your relationship you don't know what's best for

01:36:50.260 them um you know we don't know what's best in your relationship andrew we should not we're not saying

01:36:54.900 what listen i'm not talking on the individual level everybody's individual situation is going to be

01:37:00.420 different nobody disputes that that's true but we can look at what is optimal so and if we're looking

01:37:06.100 at what is optimal for the most amount of people what's optimal for the most amount of people is

01:37:10.180 having a stay-at-home mom who takes care of their children and a father who works how do we know that

01:37:16.020 that that's optimal because we can look at the results of the kids and what happens with the

01:37:21.060 kids when they come from single mother households when they come from split family households we can

01:37:25.620 see exactly what happens and it is not preferable to society in any way shape or form let's say it's

01:37:30.580 optimal and best for the child for the parents to have a dynamic that works best for them where they

01:37:36.260 can healthily show up for their kid the best way they can whether it or not it be like a woman in the

01:37:42.100 household taking care of the children or a father in the household taking care of the children it

01:37:46.340 doesn't really matter like what works best yeah you could you could in some certain circumstances

01:37:51.380 flip the script that's true but these would be exceptions to the rule it's a personal preference

01:37:56.500 it's going to be optimal for a mom to stay at home over a dad at least in the formative years of the

01:38:00.660 child right she has to breastfeed she has to do all these things which are necessary for the health

01:38:06.180 living under this coordinated 200 question for first girl how often do you advocate for male

01:38:13.700 only scholarships fostering male educational environment etc why are feminists not pushing

01:38:20.340 for graduation parity now i never hear it now isn't it the case what what is the disparity it's like

01:38:27.620 two uh two to three three to two like 60 percent of women are going to college versus 40 percent

01:38:35.620 like it's 60 40 i think is the split you go to ucsb correct correct i think it's 60 40 at ucsb what do

01:38:42.740 you have to say about that is that due to sexism um i think that that is really terrible and that

01:38:49.700 everyone should have you yeah i think everyone should have full access and opportunity for education

01:38:54.340 absolutely every person on this planet whether or not i agree with them whether they have different

01:38:58.340 political views than me any gender race everyone has the right to education and our entire american

01:39:05.860 education system is flawed it's super expensive there's a lot of pressure to get straight into the

01:39:10.820 workforce i think as we're talking about these different nuclear family dynamics there is extra

01:39:16.260 pressure on men to get straight into the workforce and i don't necessarily agree with that i think that

01:39:21.780 um well i don't know who's going to run all the infrastructure in society if we don't get men

01:39:26.660 young men out there in the workforce building all the infrastructure in society because women aren't

01:39:30.900 doing that men are doing that okay i think there's like a really big phenomenon phenomenon happening

01:39:35.460 today too where there are a lot of depressed men that aren't really it's not really being talked

01:39:39.380 about absolutely so i think that could also be a driving factor to the gender disparity of people

01:39:44.980 attending college and universities let me get a couple chats here uh pilvia slath

01:39:51.620 was absolutely shocked to see luce how do you say your name sorry loose when i hopped in tonight

01:39:57.620 i love your poetry anyways big fan of the podcast brian let's have a clean show tonight ladies and

01:40:01.460 gentlemen good stuff loose jj oh thanks jj someone said something nice to you there you have

01:40:08.180 it we have the nordic catholic for the ladies what do you think of men in the nursing field and

01:40:12.660 is it okay for a man to be a nurse yeah yeah it's a great career of course it's actually more

01:40:18.500 competitive to get into nursing school grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars

01:40:23.620 andrew is right you should listen if each of you were to die tomorrow and come back as a baby

01:40:29.540 would you rather have a nanny raise you a daycare or your loving mother feel free to

01:40:34.500 quick answers well according to her she she she thought it was better to be raised by somebody

01:40:38.900 other than her mother that's what she said already i had a mother who um was not a good mother

01:40:43.700 personally um and my dad is an amazing person my stepmom's an amazing person so i think all family

01:40:49.060 dynamics are different i agree it's also subjective don't you think maybe one of the reasons your mom

01:40:53.700 wasn't such a great mom's because she outsourced how you were raised to a stranger um no i don't thank

01:40:59.860 god she did because i don't think i'd be here word as i was saying i agree it's subjective if a mother is

01:41:08.740 unfit i would prefer a nanny i love my mom i would also love a loving mother to raise me but also

01:41:16.340 not all mothers are good mothers like she's saying private chat and they pull that up loving mother

01:41:22.660 yeah my mom um as a professional nanny i have seen that the parents are more important and it probably

01:41:30.340 does damage some of the kids because they become more attached to me than to their parents and i feel

01:41:36.180 like that's definitely going to give them abandonment problems when they're older because

01:41:39.780 i majored in psychology and i think that some of the kids i have watched became more attached to me

01:41:44.100 than to their mother which was very sad especially when i'm only there for a year or two and i mainly

01:41:49.220 watch infants so they are very attached to me instead of their parents and their parents are good parents

01:41:53.860 but they're not around their child as much as i'm around no no no no no there's so many bad mothers

01:42:00.500 that we have to outsource all of the children to nannies and other people because mothers are

01:42:05.380 apparently psychopaths who don't love their children enough that only sounds moderately insane to me i

01:42:11.300 don't think it's true at all but just you know just my two cents well it's real what if the parents have

01:42:16.100 mental mental illness yeah okay look at the exceptions to all the rules and then make policy for society

01:42:23.060 based on exceptions that's those exist and a lot of mothers go yeah and that's fine they can exist

01:42:28.260 and yes maybe those sub-optimal situations you can uh you know have somebody come in in order to

01:42:34.420 regulate the child being raised but in most situations that is not the case and there's

01:42:38.980 nobody who's going to be better for the health and welfare of your children than you

01:42:43.300 nobody's ever going to love them more than you can i just ask again for clarification every single

01:42:47.140 hand went up around the table when you said you wanted to get married theoretically someday who

01:42:51.140 is looking forward to being a mom around the table or wants kids in some capacity high please put them

01:42:57.620 high this is i mean that's fascinating to me all but two in a society where we have the the lowest

01:43:03.780 birth rate ever we literally can't even replace our own population and i think it's unquestionable to

01:43:08.180 say that feminism is really steering women away from wanting to have children today they're looked

01:43:12.100 at as a burden to your career your personal life heck even climate change is now a reason not to have

01:43:16.900 kids because it's destroying the planet as we hear from a lot of uh politicians currently in

01:43:21.060 washington so i mean that is wild to me at the same time knowing that you guys want to get

01:43:25.860 married and that you want to have children how many of you your you would consider yourselves to

01:43:29.700 be modern feminists starting with who would call yourself a feminist i've never i've never thought

01:43:35.300 about it you don't really yourself a feminist i i really don't like restricting myself to any like

01:43:41.860 form of label okay i don't like labels what is the actual definition of a feminist well i don't know that

01:43:47.460 we have a definition today to be honest with you i think feminism yeah i can give you a good

01:43:51.460 definition for feminism if you'd like one for today let's hear yours andrew yeah so this would be

01:43:56.580 the belief in an egalitarian structure where men and women are both equal in nature and equal in equity

01:44:04.900 and equal under the law i i would okay question if that's really the definition of feminism for most

01:44:11.780 modern feminists oh no no no that is the most the the best definition that i can give that the

01:44:18.500 most amount of feminists would agree with well i'm willing to grant them the nicest definition

01:44:23.620 that i can come up with to show them how bad it still is even if i did that's your most charitable

01:44:29.540 definition that's my most charitable definition that's the nicest good clarification most charitable

01:44:34.660 way that i could possibly do it if that's the definition i would say um i prefer justice over

01:44:40.900 equality i like to look at things more subjectively everyone's going to have a different experience or

01:44:45.940 have different um struggles or strengths and i think subjectivity is more important than a label

01:44:53.220 i agree when you talk um just a quick follow-up if you don't mind very quickly um when you say

01:44:58.660 justice can you tell us what justice is so let's say you are at like a baseball game this is like an

01:45:08.580 old like really really old like facebook post um and you are like watching over the stand a man can

01:45:14.980 watch over the stand he's tall enough a woman needs a stool and a child needs two that's equity though

01:45:21.780 what makes that justice i would say more so that's justice okay so what makes it just so you are

01:45:28.900 looking at something more subjectively so it's a subjective metric for it's subjective and so it's

01:45:36.660 all justice subjective you are applying what the person specifically needs i'm not really sure i

01:45:43.700 understand what you're asking yeah so let me let me let me explain when i ask you what justice is

01:45:50.660 right it's actually it's a hard question i don't blame you for not knowing off the top of your head

01:45:55.220 i'm asking what you're grounding justice on what is the grounding foundation for what you consider

01:46:00.580 justice to be for me and how i look at things like i said previously i think it's subjective what

01:46:06.580 a person needs is what we should strive to like give them you know whether it be in a family dynamic

01:46:14.180 a child with disabilities etc yeah but that's not a grounding foundation for why we should do that

01:46:21.060 it's just your belief that why we should do that yeah um i think um at the end of the day it's because

01:46:27.780 we are it'll bring a sense of community we care and love about each other so you so outcomes sorry

01:46:35.700 so it's outcomes based basically you're looking at outcomes and you're saying that if we're a just

01:46:40.420 society under what you consider just to be the outcomes are going to be better for society

01:46:49.380 i mean i'm not sure i'm following correctly if i ask you so i'll try to make this like really

01:46:56.500 crystal clear if i'm asking you what is justice and you give an example and i ask you but why should

01:47:02.980 we do it you say because it makes for a better society then wouldn't you really be basing justice on

01:47:08.260 outcomes so i suppose so like for an example for justice let's say somebody like robs a store and

01:47:14.260 harms an innocent shopkeeper they should be arrested and prosecuted but we shouldn't be arresting everyone

01:47:19.540 and prosecuting them for robbing a store yeah but why shouldn't we arrest them take them out and put

01:47:25.460 them in front of a firing squad immediately why would that be unjust then you like dive into the um

01:47:32.420 philosophy of morality at that yeah well that's what justice is justice is the philosophy of morality

01:47:38.740 right yes so like from my personal standpoint it would be my own values and morality of why i'm

01:47:44.180 saying what i'm saying i'm not saying it's opinion yeah got it okay so it's a subjective metric based

01:47:49.780 on your subjective interpretation of what justice ought to be sure okay so thank you wouldn't consider

01:47:55.780 yourself a feminist necessarily wouldn't consider yourself a feminist necessarily i would consider myself

01:48:00.420 a feminist okay i think based off of like that specific definition of just wanting i don't even

01:48:07.300 think we have to tie it to that definition but just what modern feminism has looked like for our

01:48:11.540 generation i personally i think that men and women should just be treated equally and and have you know

01:48:20.260 of course there's discrepancies gender discrepancies i won't i won't act like do you think they're not

01:48:25.060 differences i think in some worlds they're not living under score donated two hundred dollars

01:48:30.980 notice how when men are at a clear societal disadvantage it's called depression or everyone

01:48:36.340 should have equal access sounds like all lives matter to me why is it not sexism in your eyes i'm not

01:48:43.540 going to deny that in like social terms there are a lot of things happening to men right now um but i'm not

01:48:50.180 going to deny that there are a lot of things happening to women i do think it's unfair that a

01:48:53.940 man can uh have his reputation ruined just by pissing off some girl like i've seen it happen but i don't

01:48:59.540 think it's all that common and i think a lot of women that i've had talked about bad experiences with

01:49:05.380 men are usually not believed well there's a there's an easy way actually for us to determine at the table

01:49:11.300 who's a feminist and who is not if you don't want to go with the definition i'll just ask a single

01:49:15.540 question do you guys believe that being a stay-at-home mom holds women back that's a great

01:49:22.820 question no no no no some sometimes just really quick around the table please no no no absolutely

01:49:31.940 not okay are you a feminist no i don't know honestly yes you don't know anything okay no no i wouldn't

01:49:41.220 consider myself a modern feminist no all right fascinating

01:49:47.380 nick do you have that stuff pulled up i finally want to get back to my

01:49:50.820 okay you said your friend was all upset about you had a friend come on she got blasted online

01:49:59.220 i just think that a lot of these ideas maybe like personally i feel like throughout my conversation

01:50:07.460 here i i actually would consider myself to be really open-minded and like i love hearing other

01:50:12.420 people's points of view but i i found the tendency of like every time i would say something you'd say

01:50:16.980 you think this way you a hundred percent are arguing that you believe this thing but i just i don't think

01:50:23.140 that's true kind of a meta conversation so i'm asking you specifically about the thing with your

01:50:29.460 friend oh when she was on this show right sure i'm trying to get back there um yeah i just think that

01:50:36.100 she was maybe cornered in the sense of being told this is what you think this is all who you are i just

01:50:43.940 think it's really hard to encapsulate people's full point of view of the video the first one

01:50:48.980 from a segment of their experience is the audio blasted okay is that you would you date a police

01:50:54.740 officer no the pigs because the um institution they support is inherently racist and profiles of

01:51:02.580 black and brown americans especially throws them into jail which is a continuation of the slave trade

01:51:08.020 essentially people are working in prisons for less than minimum wage making pennies and dimes and it's

01:51:13.220 unfair and that's what you contribute to if you're a cop my question to you is i i disagree with you on

01:51:19.140 yeah i bet you do white boy that's a bit racist oh my god no you're one of those how can you be

01:51:28.660 racist against and i'm also half like how can i be racist against you you don't think you can be

01:51:33.620 racist towards someone who's white no i don't because you've never experienced racism in history

01:51:39.060 white people haven't experienced racism one of the what's your definition of racism um i'd say

01:51:45.380 basically like the persecution in any type of way that leads to the downfall of just like someone's

01:51:50.500 life like play the second one really quick go ahead

01:51:59.060 i think that's really easy to say i just started it once again 50 seconds

01:52:04.020 it's always going to affect my life i can't take off my skin color as a black woman like prejudices

01:52:08.420 that exist against me don't exist against you brian and that's why you can't be racist against a

01:52:13.460 white person so the audio boosted offended but you are white and me calling you white boy isn't

01:52:18.420 exactly it's a bit i mean it's a you are addressing me by my skin color i consider your skin color will

01:52:24.100 never lead to the you know what is it premature murder of yourself like i don't know like i would

01:52:30.100 actually point out one thing to you me as a white man i'm the only male at this table here there are

01:52:34.820 more white men killed by police officers than women of any race combined i mean then why aren't you mad

01:52:42.420 why don't you hate police too because i really i realize that police are a necessary function

01:52:48.420 of society without police it would be chaos we need police officers i mean i i think that's really

01:52:54.980 easy to say as you once again i'll reiterate a white person and again that's not to be racist

01:53:01.780 so

01:53:05.460 it's funny that all of you laughed when she called me white boy

01:53:08.900 white boy which is a racist statement unless you disagree and you actually think that it's not

01:53:14.980 racist to call a white person a white boy how did it impact your life how how did it what do you mean

01:53:21.860 how did it no how is calling you white racist are you not white well hold on there's a certain tone

01:53:28.100 when you say something and her attempting to dismiss my point because of my skin color aside from just the

01:53:36.900 word she used it occurs to me that that would be a bit racist that i can't weigh in that's not

01:53:42.820 racist well what's your definite what's your definition of what's your definition of racism

01:53:49.140 my definition of racism is basically exactly what she just said when your color affects

01:53:55.140 how you live your life completely by saying you're white that's an observation racism is like your

01:54:03.620 subscriber that was talking about i won't date this is why i don't want to blat date black women

01:54:10.260 because they're ignorant and stuff like that's racism prejudice is saying oh she's black that's prejudice

01:54:20.820 so your definition is there well let me let me ask for just very quick okay as soon as this comes

01:54:25.460 through let me just ask this very quick quickly is being prejudiced worse than being racist

01:54:35.540 no i mean honestly no i can we're not all going to be kumbaya of course and so you would agree then

01:54:43.060 that while it's true or may be true from your world view that you could not be racist towards brian

01:54:48.420 by calling him white boy um and he was to say it's a prejudice statement you just said that morally

01:54:53.780 they're equivalently abhorrent correct well then i take that back because just by saying stating the

01:54:58.820 obvious that he is white then yeah that's not are you but if you say if you say that's a prejudicial

01:55:04.740 statement yeah then then you say it's prejudice and prejudice is not more immoral than being

01:55:11.060 racist and haven't you done an equal thing hang on hang on haven't you done an equally hang on

01:55:16.340 haven't you done an equally immoral thing by by uh calling doing something which is prejudiced instead

01:55:22.180 of racist no if i start like attacking him and saying like racial stuff which i will not do then yes

01:55:30.340 but i'm not doing that and neither was she no but but she was she said that she could not be racist

01:55:37.220 she said she was being prejudiced i think it was she was being more degrading than anything it would be

01:55:41.620 like similar to someone being like calling me four eyes if i was wearing glasses where it's like yeah

01:55:46.740 that's my appearance but i'm not inherently affected by it in like all of society wait what

01:55:55.060 what wait are you just saying like so calling someone four eyes is on like being racist against

01:56:01.940 white people is on par with calling someone no i was comparing it to her just degrading you

01:56:06.980 is what she was racially i would say it is on par because white people don't face racial

01:56:12.900 discrimination people with glasses don't face glasses discrimination well that you're you're no

01:56:18.580 more hurt a whole bunch of you're no more hurt by someone calling you white than someone is it

01:56:22.660 might hurt you in the moment you might feel like you're being degraded or you're being looked

01:56:25.700 down oh yeah oh yeah it doesn't affect you knockout game was that all i can think of right

01:56:31.540 where she can't get that employment like she can't get that i mean i want to i would like this

01:56:35.780 this question answered what is what is the knockout to your statement that so there was a a group of

01:56:41.220 young men um young black men who were running around and they were knocking unconscious older white

01:56:48.020 people for fun that's fun that sounds like a boomer facebook urban legend no no no that it's not i can

01:56:54.180 show you video after video after video it's called the knockout game it's not a joke we're not gonna pull

01:56:58.500 up they were purposely i'm just asking you though like solely let's assume for a second i'm not i'm

01:57:03.780 telling you the truth because i am would that be racist can you answer that question were they

01:57:08.100 solely attacking white people or were they attacking yes only only white people correct hold on we're

01:57:13.940 getting off topic here okay um bringing it back to you i the video that we're reacting to is kind of

01:57:20.500 very secondary to the conversation i'm actually trying to have so you were kind of upset that your

01:57:26.580 friend went on the podcast and she said the things that she said and that was actually very gracious to

01:57:31.380 her despite what she said um and she got a bit of uh pushback blowback from it uh you you don't take

01:57:39.780 any quarrel with how she conducted herself um i think you're a grown man talking to younger women and i

01:57:48.900 think um we've been socialized in such a different way where certain things are considered funny in media

01:57:55.460 or a more casual way to discuss something that's a really hard topic for her and a really hard topic

01:58:01.540 for um non-white people in general can you answer the question because you're kind of you're you're

01:58:09.060 deflecting a little living underscore donated 200 sorry brian very simple prejudice based on race is

01:58:16.900 racism prejudice against any race is racism you can say it's not as bad since it's towards white people

01:58:25.460 it's not racist but even if we were to grant to the chatter that being prejudiced is not the same

01:58:33.460 thing as being racist if there's if they're morally equivalent then who gives a shit it's still it's

01:58:39.060 still just as bad as jackson donated 200 racism is literally prejudice based on skin color words have

01:58:46.820 fucking meanings her assuming brian's worldview and dismissing his points based solely on his skin

01:58:53.220 color is literal racism and i'm blah well put dave on jackson i just i'm i'm not really sure what

01:59:01.780 response you're looking for i think i was trying to respond in the sense of i just didn't like that um

01:59:08.660 i think i've always wanted to come on a podcast like this and discuss different point of views and i

01:59:14.420 think i've been really respectful this entire time i haven't said anything derogatory to you about your

01:59:20.020 opinions um and i just personally didn't like that when she was sharing her opinions she was faced with

01:59:27.860 um derogatory messages and kind of like the promotion of that i believe um and i was not necessarily blaming

01:59:36.100 you or your platform but rather just the consumption of media and how there's often a lot of derogatory

01:59:42.180 content and hypercritical content when um she was just expressing her experience in her own way and

01:59:49.460 i think you know if you've had those certain experiences which obviously i am white and i

01:59:56.260 haven't had those experiences um and that was the way that she handled it or interpreted it i think

02:00:02.740 that that is valid in its own regard yeah i mean but why that was a lot of words but okay

02:00:08.420 like why why so just hear me out i'm being super respectful to you and then your response is oh

02:00:13.540 that was a lot of words well you're kind of dancing around the question i'm not i'm telling you i asked

02:00:18.660 you do you agree that her conduct was you take no quarrel with her conduct i think i have received the

02:00:26.500 same level of kind of aggressive um outspoken attitude towards me already from specifically

02:00:37.700 um yeah he disagrees with you um which is totally fine to disagree with super nice what do you mean

02:00:45.140 anyways would you like to see me mean that's no don't be mean i mean you're welcome i can take it

02:00:51.620 like i don't mind i'm just saying i think i i don't know what you want me to say i feel like

02:00:57.540 i've given you my perspective question yeah what if it was the other way around what if he spoke to

02:01:02.340 her the way she spoke to him um it didn't happen so i'm but i'm just saying what if what if i think

02:01:10.580 there is a more historical well i'm just saying in that moment though not yeah yeah i think no i'm

02:01:16.100 saying context matters though so i think because there is a more historical discrepancy of white

02:01:22.660 people treating black people wrongly um it would hold more value of him being derogatory towards her

02:01:29.940 talking to him i'm not saying whether or not it's justified i'm saying it would be

02:01:34.500 very different and incomparable because if he would say that he would be cancelled but like since i mean

02:01:39.780 she was hated on and also cancelled so what she did was wrong i i'm just saying how do you know she

02:01:45.700 was cancelled what she i don't know she was experiencing a lot of hate from it i i you

02:01:50.420 totally made that up she wasn't cancelled that's insanity i i mean i don't really know what cancelled

02:01:55.860 or not cancelled then why did you say it cancelled in the sense of receiving hate for it and we're

02:02:02.580 talking about it now cancelled is de-platformed thrown off you depersoned debanked dehumaned that's

02:02:09.460 cancelled okay all right here's another well i mean you say okay dismissively but you know that

02:02:14.340 this happens to conservatives a lot they get de-platformed they get their bank accounts frozen

02:02:18.820 they get completely thrown off of all of these platforms and while the left cheers and i think

02:02:23.780 that in this situation had brian spoken to her the same exact way that she spoke to him that is exactly

02:02:29.780 what would have happened to him and it seems like a double standard that's what he's pointing to

02:02:33.540 and he just wants you to address it i like i said this was this was over a year ago and i hadn't

02:02:39.780 experienced the full context of this in over well we just pulled we just pulled up the video yeah and

02:02:45.940 i and i told you very objectively that that was my feelings towards it during the time i i didn't like

02:02:51.700 that you know as a young girl she was received a lot of online hate was my problem with it okay well

02:03:00.900 here look let me ask a couple questions uh going around the table do you think that you can be racist

02:03:05.780 towards white people i think you can not institutionally no but i think socially of

02:03:17.140 course anyone can be racist to anyone if it's being derogatory towards a certain skin color but i think

02:03:24.740 the important aspects of racism such as institutionalized racism i do not believe white

02:03:30.180 people experience that no so if people are deprioritized in uh job selection or college

02:03:38.180 applications white women benefit the most from from a lot of those what about white elections

02:03:44.180 and i don't know the statistics of it i'm just you asked my opinion my answer is affirmative action

02:03:49.940 most benefits white people actually and why benefits the most asian wait affirmative affirmative action

02:03:56.740 the most white women specifically yes there was a huge harvard trial on it actually no you're

02:04:03.300 talking hold on are you talking about like when it came to the for asian americans collegiate

02:04:08.340 affirmative action is that well specifically i think with harvard it was the case that asian americans

02:04:14.100 had to score way higher than white people black people latina people native americans it had to do

02:04:20.660 with asian americans yeah which was unfair but white women were benefiting the most from

02:04:24.980 collegiate affirmative action yes you can look up the statistics right now how just they were receiving

02:04:30.980 the most um admissions due to affirmative i mean you can just google it right now but so can you so you

02:04:38.100 just to be clear your point is wait nick just okay you got it uh so can you be racist towards white

02:04:44.260 people institutionally no not institutionally i think you know there couldn't there couldn't be a policy

02:04:52.980 that would ever be racist towards white people is that what you're saying that's hypothetical i'm

02:04:56.740 saying in our american institution no what's um and what would those institutions be um the fact that

02:05:05.540 we weren't enslaved people the fact that we have had countless instances of demolishing in fact white

02:05:14.820 people were enslaved the various points in history actually most majority of them were indentured

02:05:20.100 servitude which is no that's not true you had the so so listen do you know what the order of mark and

02:05:25.700 reprisal was this was in order to stop uh white people from literally being kidnapped put on ships

02:05:32.900 and then they were taken away by the arab slave traders thomas jefferson put an end to that we don't

02:05:38.900 know how many tens of thousands of white people were enslaved during that time nor in the previous

02:05:44.900 century we have no idea it is true in recent history you can point to blacks being enslaved in the

02:05:49.780 united states but there's not currently a single black person alive today that i'm aware of that

02:05:54.980 experienced slavery okay so you asked but my question is um you asked my opinion i say no and then you go

02:06:01.700 to rebuttal it's okay to have a different opinion from me well it's not just it's also okay for me to

02:06:06.100 rebut your yeah yeah sure but my opinion stays strong i don't think we experienced after you're not

02:06:11.060 going to change no matter what is offered to you towards everyone every different racial group in

02:06:16.500 front of me except for white people in my personal experience wait but you just said that you can't

02:06:21.220 be racist towards white people that's what i yeah i'm saying i have witnessed well by your definition

02:06:26.420 every minority group you're bending the definite the definition to preclude you from even being able

02:06:31.940 to see racism against white people why you just defined it the way you defined it why against white

02:06:36.740 people i'm saying in general racism i have witnessed in my life was her calling me a white boy racist

02:06:41.860 i mean i not not in the sense that i i find racism to be okay let me ask you a question if i were to

02:06:49.780 hold up wait wait wait wait if i if i were one second okay all right all right is race a social

02:06:55.220 construction yes there's no biological it's just a social construct right yes it does not exist as a

02:07:06.820 physical reality correct correct correct okay so that's going to set the framing for what brian's

02:07:11.460 about to say go ahead brian okay so she called me a white boy if i had called her like if i dismissed

02:07:20.100 her opinion or her disagreement or her thought by saying that she's a black woman black girl

02:07:26.820 would that be racist yes because of the social implication but is it not a fact i mean if you

02:07:35.620 you say it as a statement and an objective truth oh you are a black woman perhaps not but if you're

02:07:41.140 saying it in a derogatory sense was she saying so how is it not derogatory towards him i i'm i agree

02:07:46.740 it's maybe derogatory but i think it's a devariation of um of generational humor and coping with

02:07:56.660 such topics i don't think she said it i think intent is everything the intent was pretty clear

02:08:02.660 for sure i don't i don't even understand though if race is just a social construction which is exactly

02:08:07.780 what you just said it was then anybody who brings up race in a negative life for the purpose of

02:08:12.980 demonstrating that it's not a social construction how are they not uh introducing a some sort of

02:08:18.500 prejudicial bias or racism i don't understand the question that didn't make any sense yes it does

02:08:27.140 make sense it's a social construction correct so if nobody talked about the social construction

02:08:32.100 anymore wouldn't it go away no because it's a social construction doesn't mean it's not a social

02:08:36.820 reality like it is a construction well wait wait a social reality is only a product of the mind so if

02:08:42.020 nobody ever talked about what is a social reality the social reality goes away it's not a product of the

02:08:46.420 mind that's not what a construct is oh no social construct definitionally is a product of the

02:08:51.060 mind really can you point to a physical social construction money money is money no no no no you're

02:08:59.380 pointing to paper as the physical reality money is the social construction which the paper is money

02:09:05.540 itself is just paper is that true or false it is just that's the thing money is a physical money

02:09:10.580 money is a social construct does not exist except as a product of what so if we ignore money it'll

02:09:18.340 answer the question don't don't answer the question it only exists as a product of what

02:09:25.700 the mind right money only exists i just disagree with that i disagree with it doesn't so if everybody

02:09:31.140 decided tomorrow that the 20 bill inside of your wallet was worth zero what would it be worth

02:09:37.700 it would be worth zero but that's it would be worth zero because it's a product of the mind

02:09:41.620 its value is a product of the mind it's socially constructed it does not exist in material reality

02:09:47.220 that houses were useless and we went back and lived in yeah i mean it's just houses are not social

02:09:51.700 constructions they're material reality you can see them touch them taste them walk into them

02:09:56.660 those are real things you could look not socially constructed my point that you did not let me finish was

02:10:02.340 that race is a social construction but it does not mean it's not a social reality and people feel

02:10:08.580 and experience material reality effects of such a social construction so just that's right if

02:10:15.220 every do if i agree but i've already agreed with this i agree that if you have a social construction and

02:10:20.820 everybody lives as those the social construction is true you do have to experience the effects socially

02:10:26.260 of the social construction so for instance uh we could socially construct that your head was

02:10:31.140 or hair was red right now and everybody could believe it even though it was not an objective

02:10:35.540 reality where they would still treat you like you were a redhead right yes okay but that would be

02:10:42.100 false you would not be a redhead but they would still treat you as though you were but assuming

02:10:46.660 everybody dismissed this social construction of anybody having red hair how would it exist in material

02:10:53.380 reality i mean it it doesn't that doesn't matter because oh no it matters it doesn't matter to this

02:11:00.980 question at all because it does matter it matters big time no because what we're asking is if the roles

02:11:06.660 were reversed would that be as grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars wow just wow

02:11:16.660 nothing dollar tree blondie has said has been accurate at all please stop talking and listen to the man

02:11:22.660 speaking and you will learn something as god intended okay anyways thank you good one so we're asking

02:11:30.340 if the roles were reversed would it be as bad that is dealing with reality that's dealing with the real

02:11:36.020 world we're not dealing with like no it's actually it's well hang on i'll rebut this okay so it's not

02:11:43.060 though what it's dealing with is in non-reality because you believe that race is a social construction

02:11:49.860 that affects material reality yes it's not a material reality so therefore nobody ever talked

02:11:56.020 about race again how could it be a material reality it isn't i mean if no one ever talked about it again

02:12:03.300 it wouldn't be sure but then by her talking about it by this woman talking about it and bringing race up

02:12:09.140 and pointing out brian's race she's talking about it right bringing it into material reality from your

02:12:15.220 world view and she's pointing it out for what reason she's not the one doing it that's the thing

02:12:20.260 we are all you can't divorce everyone from the context of material reality no one is doing anything

02:12:25.140 or saying anything in a vacuum i'm not divorcing anybody from you are you're divorcing from the

02:12:29.700 context of her lived reality from your perspective it is not a material reality no i've already stated my

02:12:36.500 perspective is that it is a material reality it is based on a social construct oh so it's not a social

02:12:42.180 construction then it's a physical reality i have stated the what what i think about that multiple

02:12:46.740 times and you are misinterpreting it race is a social construction that has created the material

02:12:53.460 reality that we live in that i agree with all i think i heard you just fine i'll steal man it back

02:12:59.940 to make sure that i have it correct you ready i'll steal man it back you just say if i got it right or not

02:13:04.100 okay social social constructions if you act as though they are real can have real effects

02:13:10.100 a material reality not just not just if you act as if they are real they are real you can't in

02:13:15.700 the blink of an eye make them not real okay no you can in your like hypothetical that's not what i said

02:13:21.540 one more time okay let me steal man the position social constructions are not real they're products

02:13:26.660 of the mind yes or no they're not just products of the mind no they're not okay so then can you point

02:13:32.740 one out to me can i point out a social construct yes in a material reality that's not a product of the mind

02:13:40.100 i will the way that race affects people materially like hate crimes i mean that's a material race

02:13:45.300 itself right is race itself a social construction yes i've stated that okay so then it's not anything

02:13:52.180 other than a product of the mind yes or no no i mean i i've already said what i've said if you don't

02:13:58.020 understand the connection that i'm making there that's on i don't understand so so let's try well

02:14:02.340 i'm just going to try one more time i want to make sure i got this right do you believe that social

02:14:06.980 constructions exist in material reality or they're only products of the mind they exist in material

02:14:12.660 reality they exist in material reality okay can you point to one that exists in actual material

02:14:20.340 reality then race okay so then race is not a social construction then you just don't get this i feel

02:14:29.620 like we're wasting time because you just don't understand no no it's not we're not you don't understand

02:14:33.860 right if something's a product of the mind if it's only a product of the mind and you say race

02:14:40.260 is a social construction therefore it's a product of the mind then that means it can't exist in

02:14:44.580 material reality it doesn't exist absent that's that's just not true though products products of the

02:14:50.740 mind can have an effect on material reality they i didn't say products of the mind can't affect

02:14:56.420 material reality you may say they don't actually exist in material reality i'm sure race is not

02:15:03.460 tangible no yeah so it doesn't exist except in the mind right no that's no something can be tangible

02:15:09.300 and exist intangible and exist music exists music is not tangible but no one's denying that it is

02:15:15.300 it's not a social construction there's sound there's things we can measure it's not just a product of the

02:15:20.740 mind what are you talking about music is an example of something that is intangible and yet still exists

02:15:26.020 in our reality it's not intangible what makes it intangible you can't it's not physical you can't

02:15:31.220 i mean there are it is physical what are you talking about it's a vibration but in the colloquial sense

02:15:36.260 also there is a physical sense that we can measure in material reality is that i'll give you i'll give you

02:15:41.940 that music was a bad example is that the same thing with race i would have to think about that no i

02:15:47.940 would my you'd have to think about that my immediate response well yeah this is a complicated question

02:15:52.420 i think it's not a complicated question it is this is a really complicated reality or it does not and

02:15:56.900 it's a social construction it can't be both that's i disagree oh she disagree what is the definition of

02:16:03.700 a social construct something that is socially agreed upon and constructed via reality i mean think like

02:16:11.540 the census okay so is it is it social construction itself then no the reality no so then is race a

02:16:20.340 social construction yes i i did not hear the first part of your question okay then then it doesn't

02:16:26.820 exist in material reality so i don't know why you keep a disagreeing with me here i just i mean because

02:16:31.860 you don't understand what i'm saying go ahead tell it to me again i don't want to just keep repeating

02:16:37.140 myself and having you all right i'm gonna move on let me read a couple chats but we do have to go

02:16:41.300 around the table on one of these questions once she's back just hang tight guys uh really quick

02:16:45.860 man clown the panel is a treasure these wayward and unconstant women are a testament to the bounty

02:16:50.180 of western civilization do they see modern female mating practices as predatory of male productivity

02:16:56.660 this is a question you actually want me to pose to the panel um do you see modern female

02:17:02.420 mating practices as predatory of male productivity anybody quick answers kindly do you mean like

02:17:12.340 going for men of a certain like social status or like material like going after men for money

02:17:17.700 basically is that i think predatory like this question makes me feel like they are referring to

02:17:22.740 start getting those pulled up nick so i would say yes i think corn is unhealthy um i think a lot of

02:17:29.300 people don't take it in moderation and it can ruin lives how does that impact your world view being

02:17:36.980 active on only fans as a creator i don't do like regular corn on there i do asmr and i based stuff

02:17:44.820 um and you know if people are not going to take things in moderation i'm not there to tell people

02:17:51.460 what to do um i don't think we should be telling anyone what to do i do think there should be more

02:17:56.100 resources and help out there for people who need it all right going around the table um just to

02:18:04.180 finish up this answer i please let's not linger on it too long so the question was can you be racist

02:18:10.580 against white people if you want to restate your answer quick and then we'll move on i'm done talking

02:18:15.700 about it i think it's subjective on where you are in the world i think you can be racist to any race

02:18:20.580 yes yes in different ways no can't be racist against white people no okay yes yes yeah really

02:18:29.220 just really quick on your answer you say no uh is that worldwide are we speaking in the u.s i think

02:18:35.540 that's in the institutional context of the u.s i can ask you a question yeah if barack obama during

02:18:40.500 his presidency refused to hire a white janitor who was in poverty because he was white would that be

02:18:47.140 racist if he did that then yeah like if hypothetically if we started enacting policies

02:18:52.980 in the united states that were subjugating white people that we the most powerful person in the

02:18:59.780 world then yes you could be racist against white people i think it has to do with the institutional

02:19:04.180 context yeah so you can be racist against white people in a hypothetical in the real world no in

02:19:09.620 the real world what do you mean hypothetical in barack obama was in fact president did he what like

02:19:15.540 what discriminatory policies that subjugated white people in a meaningful way did he enact that are

02:19:20.580 still in effect today and that white people are feeling the effects of today i'm giving you a

02:19:24.900 hypothetical exactly and i'm saying in the hypothetical sure you can be racist against white people but

02:19:29.940 you're saying in in the in a hypothetical but a hypothetical it could never manifest itself like it

02:19:36.340 i don't know racism could never manifest itself like i could give you an example but in actuality in

02:19:41.540 reality racism towards white people would never manifest itself is that what you're saying it's

02:19:46.180 doubt i would have to see it to believe it you think it's very doubtful that racism towards white

02:19:50.420 people can manifest itself in the united states yeah i mean the world the world could go on infinitely

02:19:55.060 maybe at some point but okay here's another perhaps a more realistic hypothetical a black business owner

02:20:01.060 refuses to hire a white person because they're white i think that would yeah that would be racial

02:20:07.620 prejudice i don't think institutionally it's not affecting all white people because in my what if

02:20:12.180 it's a major institution i think it would still have this person this business i think it would still

02:20:17.300 have to be more than just like an anecdotal singular incident because in the way i think of racism just

02:20:23.060 my definition of it is it's something that's more broad-based it's not an individual thing you like

02:20:27.940 you can be racially prejudiced against a single person and you can use the broader concept of racism to

02:20:34.020 discriminate against an individual but racism as a concept for me is like that's a widespread

02:20:39.460 institutional thing and is being is being prejudice more or less immoral than being racist um i don't

02:20:45.700 think moral really factors into it for me i think that it now they're equal sorry so they're equal and

02:20:52.500 bad no racism i think has much greater implication greater as in a negative way implications what makes

02:20:59.940 it worse than being prejudice the the long-term implications of it why would the long-term

02:21:06.020 implications of racism be worse than the long-term implications of prejudice because they're systemic

02:21:11.060 they're they they're deeper or prejudices prejudices can be systemic as well and not in the definition

02:21:16.820 i'm working off of no no no even in the definition you're working off of are you saying the definition

02:21:22.420 that you're working off of prejudice cannot be systemic yes really yes oh okay great so then uh

02:21:29.300 you would say then that if a white men oppressed white women would that be racism or prejudice

02:21:37.380 that would be misogyny did you mean sexism would that be prejudice it would be i think it would be

02:21:44.260 yeah that would include yeah yeah it could that be systemic well the systemic aspect is that is the

02:21:50.020 misogyny the prejudice no the prejudice no oh so so why so i just want to make sure i get this right

02:21:56.740 so i don't draw me in your position if white men systematically uh were prejudice towards white

02:22:05.460 women that would not be systemic that would be misogyny and i think yes misogyny is also systemic

02:22:13.220 okay but prejudice is not systemic no my definition of prejudice would be more of an individual thing

02:22:18.260 so you could as as a result of systemic misogyny someone could be prejudiced against an individual

02:22:24.420 woman because they've grown up in the context of systemic misogyny they are going to be prejudiced

02:22:29.140 against individual got it got it so let's assume for a second then we will work off of this insane

02:22:34.180 definition i'll just grant it to you for the sake of doing it thanks it turns out that you live in a

02:22:39.620 society where they only uh harp on people who have blue eyes that's it it doesn't matter if they're men or

02:22:46.820 women it just so happens that far more women than men have blue eyes in fact almost all of the women do

02:22:52.820 and so the men with brown eyes oppress them not because they're women but because they have blue

02:22:58.740 eyes are they being prejudiced towards those women that would be a prejudice yes but i think yes that

02:23:05.620 would be a prejudice now let's assume that they built institutions in order to stop these blue-eyed

02:23:10.500 women from doing things that they wanted to do would that be systemic prejudice i mean that would be two

02:23:16.660 different things the prejudice is a result the prejudice is a result of the systemic discrimination

02:23:23.460 the blue eye what blue eye is yeah yes that's just prejudice right yeah but the prejudice is on an

02:23:29.060 individual level yeah but no it's towards all people with blue eyes men and women yeah but i mean that's

02:23:35.780 that do you see what it's just that most of them are women so could they systemically be prejudiced towards

02:23:41.300 all of the people have blue eyes i i just don't think that the word prejudice you just don't think

02:23:46.820 no no i think that would be systemically misogynist they can be systemically any ism that you want to

02:23:53.700 give but they can't be systemically prejudiced right i mean i think that if you want to like

02:24:00.260 go in that direct yeah i mean systemic discrimination includes prejudice i'm just saying i don't think the

02:24:07.620 prejudice so then prejudice can be systemic right i just don't think that that is the definition of

02:24:13.460 prejudice what is the definition of prejudice i would say holding holding a belief about someone

02:24:21.380 it's more in the terms of like what you believe like so if a lot of people hold a belief about a lot

02:24:25.700 of other people and it has nothing to do with their race or their sex or anything else would you call

02:24:31.380 that a prejudice the prejudice is in the individual though it's not in it's like

02:24:37.140 each individual societal i don't understand why couldn't it be societal it's not that it can't

02:24:42.100 i'm just saying that the well then if it can no i'm saying i don't understand how it's individual

02:24:47.460 i don't get it because it exists within the individual the individuals hold these biases

02:24:52.020 racism racism would exist within the individual well yeah i mean i i so then i don't understand how

02:24:58.020 this is not systemic both ways because i think that that is the key difference between them is

02:25:03.540 racism my definition of racism is how that prejudice manifests on a systemic level prejudice is the word

02:25:10.980 for the individual interaction the individual discrimination against someone because of the

02:25:15.460 biases you hold they're interconnected they're related why could that not be systemic though i don't

02:25:20.420 i still you still haven't made an argument for why that couldn't be systemic i mean you can go

02:25:23.860 back and forth forever i've already explained how i feel hold on i do have to read a couple chats here

02:25:27.700 just because they're about to fall off one sec guys um we'll hold on i'll just read it oh uh kill

02:25:35.700 of cereal donate 100 oh my god dude oh my god okay 6-1 180k a year fit eight inch peen has a horrible

02:25:42.900 world outlook negative negative attitude in general 5-2 30k a year chubby four inch peen has a positive

02:25:49.860 outlook oozes confidence and swagger do you pick one or two god neither neither you gotta pick one just pick

02:25:57.140 one i would never entertain either one yeah nope neither two i think you're too far from the mic

02:26:06.420 i i don't know uh neither all right ciphered men are only valued if they are useful women are born

02:26:13.940 with inherent value if a woman works full-time during the key development phases of a child

02:26:17.700 do you think that child will be well adjusted quick answer please um yes yes i need to read the

02:26:26.740 question again i'm sorry i read it i'm sorry i there's too much coming in yes depends

02:26:34.980 i couldn't i couldn't see the question maybe if you took your glasses off you'd be able to do that

02:26:39.780 um i i don't i don't know i can't answer cool all right um can i just one last question wait i'm

02:26:48.100 sorry let me just read this please okay fair enough isaac luce has completely bombed in her

02:26:53.060 feminine feminist ramblings and we're all cracking up in the chat now she's feeling awkward and put

02:26:56.980 her jersey back on and them shoulders aren't so high andrew bases based af so yeah it sounds like you

02:27:03.860 want to see my shoulders bro i don't know there you have it isaac reverse psychology sorry andrew

02:27:08.980 you're uh you wanted to come in really quick on something i've got a lot of chats um let's uh let

02:27:13.940 us assume for a second that there happened to be a religion which was out there that was being

02:27:19.220 discriminated against via people being prejudiced towards the specific religion let's uh let's say

02:27:26.260 it's a middle eastern area where this religion is being kind of systemically oppressed would you

02:27:33.700 say that would i mean would you say that a religion could be systemically oppressed a religion yeah

02:27:40.260 it happens yeah and would that be a form of prejudice or do you have a different name for that too

02:27:45.940 i just they're different concepts prejudice i've already explained i honestly no i'm just i just

02:27:50.740 want to know the answer to this one question can a religion be oppressed and is that prejudice

02:27:57.940 and can it be systemic people who follow a certain religion can be oppressed because of their

02:28:04.100 religion and people can also be prejudiced against people of a certain religion yes no no but if

02:28:10.660 people are all prejudiced towards that certain religion do you have a different name for it besides

02:28:14.980 prejudice on yes because on the systemic level i think that would be like that would be discrimination

02:28:20.420 that would be i don't know if there's a word but they're not discriminating they just don't like

02:28:24.500 them they're in two different nations totally they're not discriminating against them at all

02:28:28.660 then that would just be pretty really hate them then that would just be prejudice and it wouldn't be

02:28:32.260 systemic and could it be system why wouldn't it be systemic if all their systems of government were

02:28:38.020 aligned to hate these people like i can think of some a conflict going on right now we can apply this

02:28:43.300 to well then that would be discrimination what's discriminatory they're not discriminating they're just

02:28:50.340 hating them all of all of the systems of government are aligned against them and it's not discrimination

02:28:56.900 i don't think i don't think that's possible i'm sorry i don't think that's possible

02:29:00.420 it's not it's not possible no i don't i don't think you can have all the systems of government

02:29:05.300 aligned against a certain group and have it not cool moving on thank you okay all right ciphered white

02:29:11.380 males they are naturally classed as racist because of their skin skin color uh guilty until proven

02:29:16.500 innocent hey thank you man appreciate it cool uh let's see uh hold on okay let me pull up i'm gonna

02:29:25.140 go to the super chats over here really quick yo brian johnson is officially the best spelled brian

02:29:29.540 there is i'd like to say i appreciate both you and andrew for pushing back the world is turning to

02:29:33.220 shit uh yeah the the optimal spelling of brian with is with an i thank you man appreciate it plegic 100

02:29:40.580 never seen someone say so much while saying absolutely nothing at the same time thank you really

02:29:44.580 appreciate your uh super chats guys appreciate it thank you thank you for the tts is also in the

02:29:49.460 stream labs ones complex one uh prejudice is negative judgment without merit or evidence

02:29:55.700 racism takes prejudice and empowers it with the ability to negatively affect the person due to

02:30:00.820 whatever the prejudice is as a black man black people can be racist against white people under said

02:30:06.500 criteria uh complex one thank you man appreciate your uh message there we'll get to the i think that's

02:30:12.580 the last one there and then there's so many coming in uh sorry guys that we're kind of just trying to

02:30:17.780 get through these as quickly as possible i need to be considerate of the panel but also the people

02:30:21.700 that are contributing um yeah yeah uh hide it okay brian where'd you get this little prepubescent

02:30:28.260 boy in the yellow tank top looks like whoa what the fuck looks like he'd have the tattoo no regrets on

02:30:32.500 the chest shut stfu and listen to andrew he clearly knows more than you do you want to respond to that

02:30:37.860 um it's valid i do have small boobs thank you for pointing all right okay there you go um i'll i'll

02:30:46.100 get to the rest of the other ones really quick nick can you pull up the discord that elon uh elon musk

02:30:51.300 image that we have do you know where to find it uh it's in the wall of whatever okay just pull it up

02:30:57.940 it's related to this i'll try to move on um try it can you get it fast quick

02:31:03.220 all right this is related to because someone mentioned slavery i don't know this is uh elon

02:31:09.780 musk over there on twitter reacting to one of our clips the literal origin of the word slave refers

02:31:14.500 to white slaves so kind of related to our conversation about slavery and white people

02:31:19.140 uh elon musk reacting to a clip there because this conversation has come up before

02:31:25.140 um wait let's see okay we got the elon thing out of the way uh we'll come do we come we'll come to

02:31:33.220 that later so okay where do i

02:31:41.140 i think we should pull up the original instagram dms that we had between you and me i would because

02:31:46.900 those would be oh it doesn't reveal anything it's not about revealing i just i mean i i think

02:31:52.500 what i mean okay okay no it's good it's not bad no i i don't think it's bad i just i just think

02:32:00.100 generally a lot of these conversations even if you look in the chat like are centered around

02:32:06.100 maybe a more misogynistic perspective such as just calling her a little boy like a random

02:32:11.220 chatter calling her a little boy it's like obviously coming from a place of misogyny

02:32:15.940 which is how i felt at the time when i'm not responsible for what the chat says i'm not blaming you

02:32:21.700 currently like i'm just saying i think that you just say you judge us on how we treat you

02:32:27.700 that seems fair i mean yeah

02:32:33.300 uh i mean yeah see that's treating someone in a rude manner that is treating someone i think that

02:32:41.940 you being dismissive and me being dismissive of you being dismissive is giving you back exactly what

02:32:47.140 you just gave me it wasn't was that dismissive it wasn't no i i did not feel like that was

02:32:51.300 dismissive personally i'm sorry what is um yeah what is that i don't think i said it now you're

02:32:57.940 mocking me come on but now you are mocking me she didn't yeah there's things that you can

02:33:03.620 say that deserve to be mocked all right make it bigger please so i can maybe we can have loose read it

02:33:09.220 okay sure i mean now i'm just gonna get bombarded with people trying to like dox me and attack no one's

02:33:14.580 gonna dox you woman no one's just do you want to just read it okay i would love to because i believe

02:33:21.300 i could actually have a productive conversation despite the tacky appearance of the podcast

02:33:26.340 however i value my privacy too much and would not want to be public in that way and will therefore

02:33:31.140 decline say what you will about women and the criticisms of the age of new woman but the reality

02:33:36.500 is your entire production is founded on the exploitation and profitability of young women

02:33:41.140 women of color and trying to downplay the women experience but you're living proof of that

02:33:46.180 hypocrisy it's the over hyper sexualization of women that you are also critical of while profiting off

02:33:52.260 of such as promoting only fans while also criticizing only fans i've watched a few of your clips and it

02:33:57.940 seems majority of your responses are irrelevant to debate questions or specifically targeting a certain

02:34:04.500 type of woman in order to make women overall appear uneducated and that is coming from a fairly

02:34:09.300 temper-minded individual who has been exposed to many political ideologies and who does not

02:34:13.700 participate in something like only fans not that there's anything wrong with it but etc i hope you

02:34:19.300 at least acknowledge that the profitability of your work is no more dignified than with any women's means

02:34:23.940 of career um i'm just saying that there was nothing to debate that it was objective um so this show is

02:34:31.140 objectively exploitative i i i think so for sure you're exploiting based off of women's opinions and

02:34:37.700 objectifying women and feeding into the incel objectifying okay i mean it's kind of the incel

02:34:43.780 mindset what's the incel mindset well a lot of podcast consumption i'm sure there are so many

02:34:48.660 wait hold on sorry before i ask you questions we'll just finish reading it oh sorry um

02:34:55.460 of a person or considering their judgment not influenced by personal feelings or opinion

02:34:59.780 considering and representing facts since it's a fact that you exploit aspects of sex work as click bait

02:35:06.580 and profit off of making a fool of women based on two facts not influenced by my personal opinion

02:35:11.300 since you have no opinion no notion of my beliefs of sex work or otherwise i would argue conclusively

02:35:16.500 that that is objective i see like click bait clips of girls like bouncing or like zooming in on certain

02:35:22.500 things i mean like i said this was over a year ago and i'm sure your content has changed and evolved

02:35:27.380 since then but i would argue that a lot of the stuff that you're hyper critical of is the same reason why your

02:35:32.500 platform is so profitable so you mean because there's only fans girls that come on the show

02:35:39.620 i feel like you just didn't listen to anything that i just said in that case but i did it's literally

02:35:44.420 it's pulled up there i listened to everything that you just said and i don't know if you know this or

02:35:49.220 not but i actually take notes as we go if you don't mind i can i'll try to give steel man your position

02:35:54.980 back to you you believe that it's profitable for brian to bring on women because it's pandering to

02:36:02.180 a certain subset of an audience that wants to watch women be humiliated and treated like garbage and

02:36:08.180 you believe that that's a profitable business model did i get that roughly correct i'm paraphrasing of

02:36:13.060 course correct what's that correct sorry i'm sorry you got to speak right into the mic correct

02:36:20.660 oh correct okay thank you yeah yeah no no problem just understand i'm remote so i can't hear you

02:36:26.020 unless your mouth is close to the mic so to respond to this then why do they come on

02:36:33.060 um i think they come on for i'm sure everyone has all sorts of different reasons yeah what do you

02:36:39.460 think those reasons are um to promote um maybe their social media platforms and try to profit them

02:36:46.500 i'm not saying that women can't profit from this type of work just stick with the question why do you

02:36:50.900 think they come on um i think they come on for either money um attention um to make a stand to have

02:37:04.660 discussions i think to show off either their work or their opinions um oh it's a very strange criticism

02:37:12.740 that a bunch of misogynist incel lunatics are allowing women to come on to give their opinion

02:37:17.700 on various topics and subjects while the women profit from this it's so strange that language that

02:37:23.860 the criticism hang on i'm almost done that the criticism is that this is all to placate these incels

02:37:31.300 who are exploiting oh wait sorry your audio is cutting out andrew your audio is cut out

02:37:37.700 i just want to clarify i didn't i did not use that language um can i just ask is everybody else just

02:37:46.340 exhausted from this like i i personally just don't think any of this is productive and trying to make

02:37:52.100 a difference for our generation and trying to change the horrible what did you call it hellish

02:37:56.500 dating hellscape at the beginning of this podcast like sure we can keep arguing until the cows come

02:38:02.100 home about literally can you guys hear me still yeah i'd like to finish my conversation here though

02:38:06.580 so um back to this i i would like to understand how it is that you just make a complete and total

02:38:13.700 mockery say that this is an incel podcast it's pandering to a bunch of misogynists who are trying

02:38:18.260 to exploit women for their own personal benefit and then when i ask you why is it that the women come

02:38:22.340 on you say it's because they want to exploit all of these incel men that's actually what your argument

02:38:27.780 is that's also just i i just i i completely agree with you like i agreed to come on this podcast

02:38:33.220 today because it was catered on a non-political aspect of dating life um when in the past the past

02:38:39.860 panel that i was asked to join was actually discussing only fans and corn and i am not in that

02:38:48.180 i didn't know you were enough model i you did a great job of allowing yourself to be made a fool of

02:38:54.340 including so i've never done of the of model i yeah i've never done i think so but i've never done

02:39:01.700 that i've never done corn um and that was the podcast that i was responding to non-political

02:39:06.980 and that was what your take was that this was totally non-political there's no political takes

02:39:10.260 whatsoever why did you send that dm i didn't okay that was over a year ago and i was asked to be on a

02:39:16.420 podcast about the corn industry and of or it was discussions around that and it was a clip i had

02:39:24.500 just seen okay go back to the the podcast we don't invite people to appear on like a specific episode

02:39:32.340 we send out like a shotgun approach we'll just blast out invitations also a lot of people reach out

02:39:38.420 gotta get a new mic hold on uh people will reach out to us too to be on the show yeah for example

02:39:47.300 we do outreach but we all again people you asked to be on the show correct yes you asked to be on the

02:39:52.740 show correct yeah you asked to be on the show correct you asked to be on the show correct so i don't know

02:40:00.100 what the exact breakdown breakdown is let's just say it's 50 50 50 50 of people request to be on the show

02:40:05.060 50 50 of the people we do outreach invite them on the show so yeah i just i don't really understand

02:40:12.580 what the basis of the question is even asking me at that time you've made some very strong

02:40:19.060 accusations that the podcast is exploitative i i think that a lot of social media is exploitative

02:40:27.300 i mean in its entirety are you being exploited right now no i had full autonomy to be here

02:40:32.980 me personally i don't feel exploited i do think to some capacity just those other dumb women though

02:40:38.900 okay absolutely not what i'm right so then what's your complaint guys this was a year ago

02:40:45.540 why are you arguing with me about has your opinion changed i'm here obviously i was willing to have

02:40:52.660 like these comments i just i think it's like i don't think i think i'm people are being exploited in

02:40:58.260 the sense of maybe shutting down conversations or speaking over our actual opinions like in my

02:41:06.180 opinion i do think a lot of podcasts are centralized around female exploitation there's a reason why you

02:41:11.460 have predominantly female guests instead of male guests um that's the format of the show yeah why

02:41:18.020 it's interesting because it's interesting to hear the same reason that you'll see women create safe

02:41:22.180 space shows well they'll only have one guest and maybe five women like let's see the view is the

02:41:27.860 view being discriminatory and exploitative of men because five women get to give their opinions all

02:41:32.660 day long while the men have to basically suffer through all that nonsense suffer through all that

02:41:37.540 nonsense that just showed to me your perspective no answer my question is it okay to have the view

02:41:43.860 and only have men on is that for them to placate a bunch of harlots and skanks like you called this

02:41:49.860 chat a bunch of incels i mean okay we don't have to say exploitative but you cannot deny that you are

02:41:59.620 financially benefiting from only fans girls you hold on how many only fans girls are on the panel right

02:42:04.580 now shove hands two no raise your hands high kindly hi yeah but every single okay everybody else on the

02:42:11.540 panel is not on only fans so what's your argument well you intend and actually you two have been

02:42:17.380 talking the most and you guys don't have only fans but go ahead no i know but you do financially benefit

02:42:21.860 from sex workers only fans girls things like that being on the show they're the main draw just no

02:42:27.860 they're not okay oh wait i'll let you have that one and it was the main draw of the show to allow

02:42:35.940 sex workers to come on so that their ideology and the things that they're doing could be tangled with

02:42:41.460 are you saying that sex workers are too stupid to defend their own ideology absolutely not i didn't

02:42:46.820 say anything about that okay great then what is the problem i didn't say there was a problem i said

02:42:51.140 he's financially benefiting from the exact thing that he's critiquing and that's fine i mean like

02:42:56.580 people are coming on here for money as well i think that that's fine it's it's a reciprocal

02:43:00.660 relationship but the whole like the world is going to shit oh women are wayward i mean you're making

02:43:05.940 money you're getting sent thousands of dollars from these wayward women they're being exploited

02:43:10.500 oh it's terrible they have no autonomy i didn't say no they absolutely have autonomy but the incels are

02:43:16.820 trying to exploit them while we're exploiting the incels when did i say it was exploitative when did

02:43:21.140 i say it was exploitative she did you might have you seem to be defending it she did and the thing is

02:43:27.540 is like you did agree with it you piggyback off of the argument and you literally started with

02:43:32.260 there's no doubt that you're profiting off of these girls that sure seems like they're saying

02:43:39.060 it's exploitative because women will come on here and try and voice their opinion and just in my

02:43:43.780 experience and observation of the show we get talked over quite a lot and we don't really get to

02:43:47.700 say what we want to there's no probing questions we don't really ask each other probing questions

02:43:52.740 there's not really like a discussion for understanding of each other here right did anybody did anybody

02:43:58.260 overtalk you you a lot you multiple times yeah did anybody overtalk you right now when you gave

02:44:04.980 that whole spiel wow okay it didn't happen one time so it never happened yeah yeah well the thing

02:44:10.260 is is that there's one of me and there's how many of you and in order for us to keep a show

02:44:15.300 a format intact we have to move bam bam bam bam bam so i'm gonna have to cut in from time to time

02:44:21.380 uh or the otherwise i can't get my points in i think i've been more than 200 women like blondie

02:44:28.100 hate whatever because it shows the world how stupid women are exactly better than men that's

02:44:34.660 the kind of people who send you money everything simps waking up to chad reality that's my point

02:44:39.140 again i just don't think any of this is really productive i like the fact that we have a very

02:44:44.180 fast i'm sorry that's a meta conversation i'm sorry look i got to read a couple of these chats

02:44:48.820 because they're about to fall off um hold on sorry some of these might have felt race is real

02:44:55.060 sports diseases bone structure ism is the game duped into demonizing pattern recognition for feels

02:45:00.500 white women are four percent of the world's population you're actually the minority okay dbe

02:45:06.420 thank you man appreciate it i'm gonna just get caught up how many what is rub is that rubles like

02:45:12.580 russian rubles r-u-b i don't know i think so what uh i'll have to figure that out uh david surziak

02:45:22.340 i've been at the counter of black barbecue place and told my favorite ribs were not available but the

02:45:26.420 lady behind them got them i don't care brushed my shoulder because of the history of black what

02:45:30.900 what okay okay um and then he wait he he sent it again was told best ribs at a barbecue place they

02:45:43.940 were out and lady behind me got them he's really mad about those i brushed it off because i understand

02:45:48.340 the old black lady experienced racism at the counter or she put in an order for pickup

02:45:53.060 either or okay uh we have sleepy bear here we are living through a racist time right now

02:46:03.140 in history to say you cannot be racist towards a race based on skin skin color is a purely racist

02:46:07.780 statement if you say that you are the racist okay hold on let me just check rubles is that russian

02:46:13.940 that is russian yes rub rube 200 to usd very much money that's too uh just a heads up guys through

02:46:21.700 stream labs if you want it red or even through tts uh it has to be in usd it has to be in usd so

02:46:28.660 um i think we're caught up there on those uh hold on guys uh like subscribe

02:46:38.180 one second notification actually speaking of which guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever

02:46:44.580 twitch.tv slash whatever drops a follow in the prime sub if you have one twitch.tv

02:46:49.620 slash whatever loose energy donated two hundred dollars these bad faith three hundred and fours

02:46:56.660 can't stop fucking capping get the fuck up out of here there's a guy named abdul that would play this

02:47:03.140 bullshit game with them hashtag get the rocks hashtag castle time hashtag exploit these nuts

02:47:09.700 dumb bitches can i ask what a 304 is area code i think it's an area code or something i don't know

02:47:15.700 i'm confused too loose loose loose oh yeah but like whose side is he on yeah no one he's saying

02:47:23.380 exploit oh i just i'm whatever it doesn't matter wait so hold on uh and i think you were also making

02:47:29.940 some statements i don't know to who if it was to my people like behind the scenes or whatever you

02:47:34.820 also think that the podcast is misogynistic um yes that is my opinion and it's okay if you disagree

02:47:41.940 okay well first oh my god killer of cereal donated two hundred dollars aren't you here on your own

02:47:49.380 accord didn't you get rules before show so you don't feel exploited but want to use the podcast

02:47:55.860 to exploit your opinions about how all men bad while disrespecting rules personally i love men i

02:48:01.780 yeah i i i some some of my closest you know like i love i love having male relationships and i think

02:48:08.660 that i i just i think that there's a heavy discrepancy of me having one single opinion of

02:48:15.620 something and then you guys telling me i have a hundred other opinions when you don't know i think

02:48:20.020 what i'm hearing you say is there's an over emphasis on trying to just generally in the

02:48:25.780 social media space today stir up division and anger and own the other people look i saw a chat come

02:48:31.940 through earlier today i just feel like the world is going to i think we can look at the world like

02:48:35.860 that there's a whole lot of negative that we could be focusing on in terms of just how empty our world

02:48:40.020 has become largely because of the lies of culture that have been allowed to thrive and that division

02:48:45.300 that's been allowed to thrive but what i love about this podcast with my own experience that i've been

02:48:49.700 here about a year ago and i wrote about this in my book is that we did have those probing

02:48:53.700 conversations and those probing questions even tonight in the midst of all of this crazy division

02:48:58.100 i saw so many positive things being said around the table today that you love men that we think men

02:49:03.060 have it really difficult in society today we need to address that problem that you want to get married

02:49:07.380 that you want to have kids uh that you think modern feminism has become very problematic and you don't

02:49:11.940 subscribe to that ideology those are dramatically unifying countercultural things for our generation

02:49:18.340 we can of course focus on all of the crazy chats that come through and all of the negativity and all of

02:49:22.820 that but i feel really hopeful about this conversation because even though we're all

02:49:26.420 dramatically different people i'm watching a big group of young americans from across every aspect

02:49:32.420 of the cultural and political spectrum basically give a middle finger to american culture today and say

02:49:37.620 we don't want to keep living like this and that's powerful so you can choose to say the world is going

02:49:42.500 to shit and focus on that or you can wake up and realize there are so many people waking up to the

02:49:47.300 realities of the lies of culture that we're living in and we can work together to create a more

02:49:51.220 productive system moving forward how in the world is that what you see wow you have these leftist

02:49:57.140 these leftist women going okay wait wait wait i just i just want to say but i really appreciate

02:50:02.980 that you reiterate things terms and phrases they're going absolutely apeshit this one starts by saying

02:50:08.900 it's a bunch of misogynist incels who are supporting the show then has to backtrack on it

02:50:14.100 thank you so much the other one doesn't know what a social construction is why are you blowing smoke up

02:50:17.860 these women's ass i'm not blowing smoke up anybody to be honest with you andrew but i i am a big

02:50:22.580 believer that the culture of social media that's existed for a long time i do this as a political

02:50:27.700 and religious and cultural content creator for a living so i get the controversy it's very tempting

02:50:33.140 to do the own the libs thing and go viral for five seconds on twitter but how much is that actually

02:50:38.180 productive in winning it's highly it's highly productive in winning a culture war in our

02:50:43.620 country these are not your friends these women would shame you off of a campus in five seconds

02:50:49.540 they would literally destroy your life in five seconds they don't give a shit about i have a

02:50:54.260 wait wait i've got something here i've got something here isabel are you pro-life or pro-choice i am

02:50:59.700 very proudly pro-life womb to tomb baby does anybody have a major problem with i can respect your

02:51:05.380 opinion but you disagree with her ideal ideologically respect that for you well wait until but she wants

02:51:12.020 she wants to she wants to take back your right i think it's weird to tell other people what to do

02:51:18.740 but that's and i'm not i'm not fighting against you on this this is a great opportunity to like

02:51:22.740 start a dialogue and realize nine in ten voters under the age of 45 in america believe there should

02:51:28.660 be at least some restrictions on the abortion industry that's a dramatically different picture

02:51:33.060 than what you see in one twitter post or one tiktok video or what one presidential candidate might say

02:51:38.580 that's a lot of common ground for us to start a great dialogue about and that's exactly what i'm

02:51:42.340 seeing tonight look we have very different world views some of you don't want to have children i'm

02:51:46.260 very excited about having children and i think that's a beautiful aspect of womanhood that's often

02:51:50.340 being erased from society some of you are creators on only fans i personally don't agree with that

02:51:55.460 particular life choice i'm curious to unpack why you do that and if there's a path for you to get

02:51:59.620 off the platform i would love to talk about that but i'm the first person to acknowledge that owning

02:52:04.820 each other and creating content specifically designed to demonize each other does absolutely

02:52:09.460 nothing to get us on the first step to having that conversation in the first place and what i

02:52:13.780 love about this podcast historically is we've had the opportunity to do just that to say hey i'm

02:52:19.220 really not okay with where culture is at today i might disagree with you on how we got here i might

02:52:24.100 disagree with you on where we're going forward but we can never create a path forward if we don't

02:52:29.140 just sit and acknowledge that we're all miserable in what leftism has done for society and that's what

02:52:34.500 i've heard throughout the entire conversation tonight we're miserable that society has demonized

02:52:38.500 marriage we're miserable that society has demonized children we're miserable about the pornography

02:52:42.900 industry which is a powerful thing that nobody likes to talk about everybody just says ah gen z's this

02:52:48.100 degenerate horrible leftist culture that's not what i'm hearing tonight people need to really

02:52:52.820 acknowledge like the the bad things that come with porn you can't just like brush everything

02:52:58.020 off and act like everything's fine i completely agree with you like there are like negatives that

02:53:02.500 come with porn just like anything else there is a huge porn problem there's a huge porn consumption

02:53:08.020 problem there's a huge problem with men being depressed and not knowing how to talk to women

02:53:11.620 problem there's like a huge problem with it there's a huge problem with women doing things or like

02:53:15.460 getting into situations that they don't really like necessarily would be okay with

02:53:18.660 it's a huge thing so i guess i'm just interested in doing something a bit more productive with our

02:53:25.860 time where we could create common ground we could actually try to change some minds we could talk

02:53:30.660 about the controversial issues i mean and i think andrew might actually agree with me here

02:53:35.300 i actually don't think i'll be able to change any of the girls minds on anything i'm actually whenever

02:53:40.740 i have people on the show i'm actually never really really interested in changing the mind of who's

02:53:46.660 across from me i'm interested in reaching them i'm interested in reaching the audience so they

02:53:52.980 send you money right no no no no no don't be disingenuous i'm interested in changing their mind

02:53:59.940 well let me give you a great example of how you've done that in the last couple of weeks

02:54:03.300 a week ago i had a beautiful young woman on my live stream named nala ray just a few months ago nala

02:54:09.700 went viral on this podcast as a top 0.01 only fans creator saying that she was physically sexually

02:54:17.380 attracted to the idea of cheating on other men in the last few months nala has completely broken the

02:54:23.380 internet by leaving that entire lifestyle behind she was baptized in a christian church she deleted

02:54:28.420 her only fans content uh she deleted thousands of illicit photos and videos off the internet she has left

02:54:34.500 that life behind much to the ridicule and disbelief of a lot of people on the internet after a debate

02:54:41.460 by the way one motorsports donated two hundred dollars conveniently none of the losers do not

02:54:49.700 give two sheets about anything you have to say andrew is right you are best served to bring them to your

02:54:56.180 level not sink to fears yeah that's exactly what we're trying to do bring people to a new level and

02:55:00.340 start that conversation but nala's a dramatic transformation has inspired quite literally

02:55:06.100 hundreds of millions of people all over the world to stop and ask the question wow how can you have

02:55:11.780 a comparison side by side of being viral on the whatever podcast saying it's kinky to cheat on people

02:55:17.060 and five seconds later get baptized and delete all of that content off of your platform you know that

02:55:22.340 is catering to both your audience and to the individuals on the platform i just don't think it's mutually

02:55:27.300 exclusive so i'm inspired to see those conversions this is a ridiculous take oh okay here's what

02:55:32.740 actually happened post a debate after i wrecked nala she's sitting basically exactly where the gal

02:55:39.460 is sitting there who's uh who uh has the red hair basically sitting right there she went and re-evaluated

02:55:46.100 her life after she sat on this podcast and said that she sends money to her father who is a preacher

02:55:53.380 and i said what kind of father who's a preacher would ever allow that suddenly on michael knoll's show

02:55:59.140 she says wait my parents disowned me two very conflicting stories by the way but okay we'll grant that

02:56:05.780 that is true what it's created is a lined division right down the middle of people trying to determine

02:56:11.700 what christianity is and is not who's allowed in who is allowed not in that is a fantastic conversation

02:56:18.340 but to say it's not completely polarizing that's what it is it's totally polarizing it is not brought

02:56:24.180 people together oh i highly disagree with that brought people together just because something

02:56:29.300 is controversial doesn't mean it can't bring people together i've seen more productive dialogue about

02:56:33.860 the role of faith in our generation's lifetime and culture in the role of only fans and whether or

02:56:39.300 not it's something we should have a mass exodus from within our generation in the last two weeks

02:56:43.780 because of nala's transformation story than anything else i've ever seen and largely that

02:56:48.100 started from a clip of your podcast brian so i think that's incredible right because that's

02:56:51.620 catering to an audience but that's also catering to a generation of creators and people who are willing

02:56:56.980 to put themselves out there they're not mutually exclusive it's not mutually but the thing is is

02:57:02.500 no it's one of the most polarizing issues i've ever seen in my life if you look at twitter

02:57:07.460 and the polarization which has happened behind it who believes or who doesn't believe her what's

02:57:11.620 actually going on here yes it is true that it sparked a conversation but it's a very polarized

02:57:16.660 conversation okay but that doesn't it has not created kumbaya by imagination is because people

02:57:22.740 are engaging directly in argumentation and for the first time these ideologies are being taken on

02:57:27.780 and people aren't used to seeing that that's what's going on and so you do see a polarization

02:57:32.740 completely disagree with this take well i think you're a nice person i think you're on our side

02:57:37.860 but i think that this take is incorrect all right fair agree to disagree but i just think

02:57:42.580 polarization doesn't have to be mutually exclusive from a productive path moving forward polarization

02:57:48.100 can be a beautiful thing because it forces us to examine examine our conscience and that's exactly

02:57:53.380 what's happened here so i would love to do that in the next several minutes of the podcast with you

02:57:58.260 guys talk about some of those polarizing issues that we might disagree on but at least create an

02:58:02.580 opportunity for productive dialogue moving forward if we don't have anything i'll try my best i i got

02:58:07.700 a couple things i need to finish up on so we'll try our best here and we do have some chats coming in

02:58:12.260 i do want to wrap up you we were starting to talk about misogyny and it was your view that this podcast

02:58:18.580 is misogynistic is that correct i don't want to put words in your mouth um i think that um a lot of the

02:58:26.740 conversations surround discrediting misogyny and essentially criticizing women on a hypercritical lens

02:58:36.260 i mean i don't i'm not saying specifically you but i would say as you were saying with the mass

02:58:42.900 implication of media um i do think a lot of commenters or a lot of conversations are sparked in

02:58:50.260 misogyny because it is a controversial topic um and it's a topic that can be very reactionary for

02:58:56.580 women well didn't you when i asked the question earlier didn't you just outright say yeah i think

02:59:00.980 the podcast is misogynistic i that was i was reading from what i had said a year ago and the

02:59:06.900 notion that you tell my staff that the podcast nick did you i said i was blocked on instagram

02:59:12.820 because i called that podcast misogynist i'm even thinking your original messages did you even say

02:59:17.940 misogynist yes i did i think you said exploitation we could we could pull it up again really quick

02:59:22.260 just so i can scan it nick

02:59:27.780 i i mostly tuned uh zoned in on uh exploitation uh there's a lot of exploitation

02:59:36.340 young women women of color hyper uh it's it's up i don't know if i saw an accusation of actual

02:59:45.540 misogyny i'm sure my prospect of downplaying the woman experience okay

02:59:50.660 was centralized around misogyny yes so correct but correct me if i'm wrong but i do think you

02:59:56.580 indicated either behind the scenes in messages or even on the show that you view the podcast i don't

03:00:03.220 know if it's myself as misogynistic yes and then i think you did too yeah i mean can i ask you like

03:00:11.860 i'm sorry can i ask you like a question and you respond to it engage with it like in good faith

03:00:16.500 and so genuine well allow me to ask a couple of my questions first but you you think that the

03:00:21.620 podcast is misogynistic i believe that you benefit from misogyny and i think that has misogynist from

03:00:28.740 misogyny well here's my question i'm just gonna ask it well hold on i'm i'm in the middle of well

03:00:34.660 you asked me a question is a response to what you just asked um why do you think it is that every

03:00:41.300 person who sends you money is saying something misogynistic if you don't benefit are you new to the

03:00:45.940 internet like do you realize how when you have anonymity and you have just total on youtube these

03:00:55.540 are all anonymous people super toxic i don't co-sign i even said i disavow some of their sign but i'm

03:01:02.900 asking why i mean none of it's like say anti-semitic none of it's like um other isms that we could do

03:01:08.980 with our anonymity it's all sexism and misogyny so why do you think those people are watching you and

03:01:13.620 sending you money if not you benefiting from misogyny and stoking that for your own personal

03:01:17.700 benefit well i think you're making a lot of assumptions there that are not based in reality

03:01:22.660 at all you can read the comments and say they're misogynist if you say they're not that doesn't

03:01:26.100 make we're doing a live fine then all the commenters who comment on your behalf are misandrist then

03:01:31.220 sure go for it okay well yeah that makes a lot of sense right so again everything's anonymous as a

03:01:38.580 man i don't know how to take responsibility for what other people say so i can have a conversation

03:01:43.780 about the things that i discuss on the podcast but i can't beat like i don't know how to be responsible

03:01:49.860 for what somebody else says especially somebody who says it anonymously so no i didn't say you were

03:01:56.020 responsible for it but i think you benefit from it and you intentionally engage with those comments

03:02:00.980 and you stoke that kind of you did you say you consider yourself a feminist i do okay so you

03:02:07.540 benefit from a misandrist system now i'm one podcast i have you were talking about uh systemic

03:02:15.140 what was the other word you used in in uh there's systemic and then there's another word i'm trying

03:02:19.860 to remember institutional institutional so i have one podcast you're a feminist i have i have absolutely no

03:02:29.540 power compared to the absolute uh goliath that is feminism you're laughing every single university

03:02:39.460 in this country has a feminist studies program a woman's studies program a gender studies program

03:02:44.500 every single universities all these universities are systems and these systems have

03:02:50.900 hundred million dollar endowments that's what i'm up against you guys have all the power feminism

03:02:57.540 has all the power it has infiltrated all the institutions institutions of higher education

03:03:03.700 government media corporations do you think my message is the mainstream i'm the counterculture no i

03:03:11.620 don't i don't think i'm the counterculture you as a feminist possess all the systemic and institutional

03:03:18.180 power in this country i would disagree with that i think how is that conceived in in all in government

03:03:25.060 in media in corporations in uh the higher education system feminism has 100 percent control it is the

03:03:36.580 status quo how can you sit here and say that and feminism preaches an absolutely man-hating ideology

03:03:43.700 the core tenant the core tenant of feminism is the patriarchy theory which in my view is a is a absurd

03:03:51.460 conspiracy theory what would you say the patriarchy theory is i mean there's different definitions of

03:03:57.060 it it's this idea that men hold all the power women are precluded from having any power and that men as

03:04:04.820 a class are oppressors and women are the oppressed if that's what you're teaching people in these systems

03:04:13.060 in this systems of education you're teaching women to have absolute contempt and hatred towards men if

03:04:19.300 you're teaching women that they are oppressed and that men are the fault of that and that men are

03:04:24.020 the oppressors you hold all the cards you hold all the power so what do you think we should be teaching

03:04:29.220 women well i think that the first thing not feminine is that if you experience any sort of ridicule

03:04:34.820 whatsoever from a dynamic that you don't disparage them instead you hear what they have to say

03:04:40.500 this particular case brian points out something which is uh very interesting who holds the institutional

03:04:46.100 powers at the incel of the feminist you tell me um i would say that incels do not hold any

03:04:52.660 institutional power but i would say this is also getting away from my original question

03:04:56.420 which was you i mean like it's not a question it's more of a statement you benefit from misogyny

03:05:01.060 it doesn't matter who has the institutional power you benefit also from misogyny if you didn't

03:05:05.300 you wouldn't be here right now i benefit from misogyny you must because your claim here is that

03:05:11.220 a bunch of misogynists are having you on to spread your message i mean i i guess in that way i do

03:05:20.100 benefit from it but i guess you do i guess you benefit from all this so you admit that he also

03:05:25.140 benefits from it he also benefits from it right i don't even know what that argument is though i i'll

03:05:30.260 let you reclassify the word to misogyny as long as you say that a bunch of patriarchist misogynists

03:05:37.460 are benefiting you by allowing your message to go out to them go ahead and say that for us i mean

03:05:42.820 the thing is my message is not going out to a sympathetic crowd right now i mean you can see

03:05:47.220 who's watching and who's sending money no one who's listening is going to i didn't know what this

03:05:51.940 podcast was when they invited me on i was invited on that's also incorrect just so you know hang on

03:05:56.900 let me let me just give you uh some framing i understand what your framing is steel manning it back

03:06:02.660 hey i i understand but i'm in a hostile crowd but you're really not you might be in a hostile

03:06:08.020 crowd right now with the chat which is currently right here however millions of people will likely

03:06:14.500 see the clips that come off of this podcast and you will get a sympathetic ear from that

03:06:19.700 and i also don't buy that you didn't know what this podcast was i did i'm sure that you you seem

03:06:24.820 like you're the type who's diligent and does your research are you not that kind i i don't watch

03:06:29.460 podcasts i don't know you don't so you just agree blindly to just whatever anybody offers you

03:06:34.820 hold on okay let's not wait yes did you just say yes would you like to move on or would you like

03:06:41.700 me to respond no no i would like to i would like to just finish this real quick i'm almost done

03:06:46.820 that was okay i don't actually just no okay you don't actually so you didn't do any of your due

03:06:51.460 diligent research before going on podcast you didn't have no idea what was going to happen you had no idea

03:06:56.900 that this was a dating podcast where it's an adversarial relationship between the males and

03:07:01.380 the females you had no clue no i i it was marketed as a dating podcast but i kind of just did it

03:07:07.300 because it sounded fun i mean i don't the fact that it's hostiles go ahead final thing and i'll go

03:07:11.940 i was just gonna say i'm not saying that that you know so this is what you do this is your i'm

03:07:17.940 my only point was that you benefit from people's misogynistic viewpoints and if i

03:07:23.540 if that makes me also you said you do too as well right by sure i'm been on this day i'm

03:07:28.260 benefiting from it but only one of us has the podcast and does it continually i'm just a guest

03:07:32.820 benefiting so well how could you how could you blame a bunch of misogynist patriarchist lunatics

03:07:38.260 for promoting you please okay no like can you center oh yeah yeah yeah how can you blame a bunch of

03:07:46.580 evil misogynist for allowing you to get your message out there um does that sound like misogyny

03:07:54.660 i mean yeah because they're benefiting from the misogynist who are watching but you're also

03:07:59.300 benefiting from the massage i already admitted to that sure today i'm making money from it

03:08:03.540 how is this even a criticism then i don't even this wouldn't this mean that misogyny was good

03:08:07.540 this is when misogyny is good if you're benefiting from it i don't really understand doc vinably

03:08:14.900 donated two hundred dollars to paraphrase rush limbaugh the whatever podcast is equal time

03:08:21.060 pushing back against the systemic misandry of feminism evidence the boy crisis by farrell very

03:08:28.180 well put doc vinablis but rush limbaugh was dead uh okay i just think it's weird that it seems like

03:08:35.940 yeah he is after he destroyed an entire culture of progressive scumbags can you hear me can you hear

03:08:40.900 me another can you hear me devon jackson donated two hundred dollars as someone who's sent as much if

03:08:49.460 not more money to this podcast than anyone i can assure you i've never said anything misogynistic so

03:08:55.540 from the bottom of my heart fuck you the individual not the woman so okay you're saying that i benefit but

03:09:01.940 what is really thank you davon what i don't really understand your argument here because like let's

03:09:07.460 say for example uh joe biden received political contributions from a like radical feminist group

03:09:15.940 that hates men which he does sure sure like does that mean that he just because he receives the support

03:09:23.300 of a radical group that he necessarily and look i don't want to get into joe biden's views on

03:09:28.580 but uh does that means mean that he co-signs those views because he has received the support of said

03:09:35.540 group and we've seen this a lot from trump where trump will will get uh an endorsement from somebody

03:09:42.260 who's a radical in some way and then that is somehow it must mean it's a reflection on donald donald

03:09:48.740 trump's precise political views and ideology when that's not the case so it i'm just not really sure

03:09:55.300 what your argument is i didn't say you were co-signing it that your own opinions on women

03:09:59.380 are your own but you i mean my only argument is that you're benefiting grid one motorsports donated

03:10:04.340 two hundred dollars okay i rebuke the claim of misogyny however i will call stupid stupid and

03:10:10.580 would prefer brutal honesty to comfortable lies yeah i can see why you would not the patriarchy is here to

03:10:17.140 help you not brixton okay thank you grid one motorsports appreciate it um okay so you view

03:10:24.820 the podcast as anyone here else think the podcast is misogynistic uh i don't really watch it so i

03:10:32.020 am not able to determine that look i just want to say this and i'll make it quick i find it weird that

03:10:38.100 a lot of your audience seems to either i wouldn't say that they hate women but it's like women that do

03:10:45.300 like only fans or like sex work and then they pay a lot of money just so they can like insult women

03:10:51.060 and that's odd to me i'm not saying what everyone else at the table is saying but i'm saying that that

03:10:56.580 is weird and it's negative exclude the viewers exclude the audience of the things that are discussed

03:11:03.700 on the podcast do you view the podcast as misogynistic

03:11:08.100 no okay but you two do so i have a question you use the word how do you def split please

03:11:22.260 okay how do you define misogyny um i would say that it's not opinion based rather the

03:11:33.860 instigating of anti-woman concepts so anytime you ask a question there's kind of an automatic rebuttal

03:11:45.460 so you're going you're going into it of oh well women shouldn't should do this but shouldn't do this

03:11:51.940 and women should feel this way but they feel this way or putting words into everyone's mouths i think

03:11:58.500 kind of promotes this idea of misogyny um obviously it's a blanket term and i i do feel as it was

03:12:07.220 overused and i apologize um but i do think to some capacity benefiting off of the hatred or not answering

03:12:16.660 the question okay my perspective i define misogyny as expressing hatred towards women from a gender

03:12:25.460 standpoint rather than an objective opinion or material matter such as hating on a woman for how

03:12:31.860 she looks telling a woman that she is incompetent or dumb more what if she is is it misogynistic then to

03:12:40.740 tell an incompetent person they're incompetent not that i've done that but is it an opinion

03:12:47.060 big energy donated two hundred dollars would happily support a podcast that's promoting celibacy

03:12:53.860 virginity and lifetime godly marriages we're supporting because we understand we're steering

03:12:59.540 the culture in a positive direction that's what we should be doing yeah thank you dbe thank you

03:13:05.620 and i think um i loved like your conversation um and i think i think we often get boxed into this idea of

03:13:12.500 i have to have this opinion i have to have this other opinion just because we perceive one thing said as a

03:13:18.100 certain way um i think being called bratty for having my own opinion is highlighted in misogyny i

03:13:25.540 think if i were a man a lot of my opinions would be perceived in a different way so i think that

03:13:34.100 misogyny we would assume you would be making sound arguments and we would take it that is misogyny

03:13:38.980 if you assume i would be making sound arguments because i was a man that is misogyny yeah i mean you

03:13:44.580 really just like they're digging yourself into what do you mean what do i mean you're really

03:13:49.060 you just said if i were a man made a single good argument all night so if i was a man

03:13:55.700 you would assume i would be making sound arguments but because i'm a woman because i can't make a sound

03:14:01.140 argument do you know why the precondition applies here because we've listened to you

03:14:05.620 of serial donated relevant rational arguments how many women also donate to this podcast

03:14:11.940 are they in cell misogynistic to generate men because they are female changing a perspective

03:14:17.380 from a debate isn't misogynistic the change was already in you right that chatter is right

03:14:26.500 hold on hold on hold on kill a kill of cereal thank you um just to prove his point i have a chat that's

03:14:32.180 about to come in here from conservative latina thank you love seeing isabella on the pod you're

03:14:36.900 awesome girls cute for the girls can women be sexist towards men how would you feel if you heard men

03:14:42.340 saying i hate all women like women do also christ is king uh thank you conservative conservative latina

03:14:49.700 i'll ask that question a little bit later uh i'll get back to that though i have it written down thank

03:14:54.660 you or andrew you were you had go ahead yeah what i was saying specifically is

03:15:02.180 we've we've only judged you on the merits of what you said and the arguments that you've made if

03:15:07.300 you've acted like a brat i don't recall calling you one i don't think i didn't call you and brian

03:15:12.740 i don't recall talking about calling you one either no no i didn't say you guys i was saying from the

03:15:18.580 chat it's okay for people to perceive why is it that the people who tune into the show you're so adamant

03:15:24.100 about you're having the discussion with us who's viewing it should be relevant to that they're going to

03:15:28.180 judge you on your arguments as well and you know what that's the most fair way to do things do you

03:15:33.460 think that when i'm in debates with these massive liberal progressives all over the internet that

03:15:37.780 i'm not getting judged by their audience because i am then the last thing i say is oh my god they're

03:15:42.900 judging me it's terrible that's ridiculous make the arguments and let's engage with them

03:15:49.140 what's the name of this live so

03:15:53.860 i don't know if i got a clear answer on this how do you define misogyny

03:15:57.380 i i just feel like no matter what i say my opinion is going to be wrong so i just i would

03:16:02.340 love to start having a conversation like even with you about these other can you just engage

03:16:06.500 really quick i just what do you want me to engage in because i'm constantly being

03:16:10.100 well you got interrupt there was an interruption from the tts um just if we can do split nick

03:16:15.860 so just how do you define misogyny i define misogyny as exactly what he said to me if i were

03:16:21.620 a man if i were a man i would be making sound arguments i believe misogyny is that's actually

03:16:27.060 not what i said you did say did he say that i was actually just so you know so you understand

03:16:33.540 i was granting your world view okay and i was saying because the precondition is you think that

03:16:38.580 if you were a man you'd be making sound arguments that's what that's what my point was okay i'm

03:16:44.100 sorry if i misunderstood you my opinion so i'll apologize if i wasn't clear no don't worry that's

03:16:50.340 my bad misogyny is founded in discrediting certain opinions or perspectives

03:16:57.700 by being equated to woman-ness so when a woman is loud she's aggressive but when a man is loud he

03:17:06.180 is a boss he is a leader those are misogynistic perspectives on motorsports donated two hundred

03:17:13.300 dollars dollar store blondie we have listened to your inaccurate trite and wandering prattle all night

03:17:20.660 perhaps you feel guilty about how you live your life in sin acting a victim and being argumentative

03:17:28.340 maybe but how but a perfect example of misogyny is how am i more argumentative than you two

03:17:34.180 do you see my perspective yeah but between the two of us you've said twice as much as i have and

03:17:39.300 i've been discussing things with you that's big energy donated two hundred dollars misogyny is

03:17:44.660 literally disagreeing at all what i think if we don't stop this bs now they lock us up for it

03:17:50.820 the hour is late gentlemen that's right disagreeing with women you know it's going to be a felony pretty

03:17:55.940 soon guys it's that is not at all what i think i don't hate all men i love many men i i don't

03:18:03.140 believe in the patriarchy theory or do you believe that there's a patriarchy um it is objective that

03:18:08.020 our society is patriarchal it's objective it's we literally are defined in every history book as a

03:18:13.540 pinky fingers donated two hundred dollars not being able to adequately annotate your opinions as a

03:18:20.340 speaker in this podcast does not infer misogyny okay this is your moment to be heard and as guests

03:18:26.980 failing to be correct says something about you okay sticky fingers thank you um how do you define

03:18:32.420 misogyny the hatred of women okay so how have i hated woman women i didn't say you did i said you're

03:18:42.180 benefiting from the hatred of women but you said the okay but that's a different conversation like

03:18:46.740 saying okay you said that the podcast is so are you by your own admission that makes you a misogynist

03:18:52.020 don't engage don't engage on that um i maybe i should rethink my phrasing there then because

03:18:59.780 i think saying the podcast is misogynist implies that you are a misogynist and you're out with the

03:19:05.060 intention to degrade women and whatever and whether or not i believe that i'm not going to accuse you of

03:19:10.420 that um so if that's what you're defining the podcast as being misogynist as i would say maybe

03:19:18.100 it's not but you are without a doubt you can't even deny that you are benefiting from people who

03:19:24.100 have negative opinions of women and negative biases towards women whether that makes the podcast itself

03:19:29.860 misogynist i guess is up for debate like i i don't know wait so i have a question yeah if um

03:19:36.260 if a national socialist do you have like a cash app or a venmo or something i do and they were to just

03:19:42.340 send you do you are you in content creation at all or a little bit do you have any like a link tree

03:19:49.380 that links your cash app or venmo or anything like that let's just say they found it and the national

03:19:53.460 socialist sent you 200 you're benefiting from not from from a nazi yeah but i think there's a difference

03:20:00.660 between so what's the who so okay so okay so these people who are sending you money are frequent viewers

03:20:07.220 they they like your content they engage with it they enjoy it they come back for more if someone

03:20:11.700 were to randomly find me and send me 200 just because whatever reason that has that's not the

03:20:19.540 same thing it's not comparable like these people are your fans they are your viewers they most likely

03:20:25.540 agree with a good portion of what you say otherwise they wouldn't be watching you go to ucsb right i do

03:20:30.820 so you pay tuition to ucsb yes okay so i would argue that the feminist studies program at ucsb and all

03:20:38.100 you know there's women's studies feminist studies at every single university in this country there's no

03:20:42.340 corresponding men's studies uh at any university as far as i'm concerned as far as i know um then aren't

03:20:49.780 all these universities misandrist because they're benefiting from the tuition that these feminist

03:20:56.420 studies majors are putting towards these universities so every single university every

03:21:02.420 single system is just a man-hating system and they're all benefiting from feminist misandry well

03:21:08.180 i don't agree that feminism is misandry it absolutely is well we disagree so we you can't argue on that

03:21:13.220 point because i just don't let's talk about patriarchy a little bit then so you were about to define

03:21:17.300 patriarchy i'll never be finished no donated two hundred dollars so if i say that all women are

03:21:25.300 dumb i'm a misogynist but a woman probably say all men are dumb and no one bats an eye so double

03:21:31.780 standards abroad boys no women are here no women here to clarify are saying all men are dumb because

03:21:36.900 i don't believe that i absolutely do not believe that i don't believe that all men are dumb i don't

03:21:41.940 believe all men are bad i don't believe in categorizing people are you less safe at night because of men

03:21:47.300 um from a statistical standpoint yes because men it's a bit racist or sorry not racist it's a bit

03:21:55.060 sexist well is it sexist or is it objective in the sense that majority of assault majority okay for

03:22:01.540 example at ucsb elliot rogers let's talk about elliot rogers okay never mind we're not allowed to talk

03:22:09.140 about it but that's a perfect example of women and men being unsafe because of someone with

03:22:14.340 misogynistic perspective yeah let's talk about mattress girl then and talk about how many of

03:22:19.620 these false allegations come out of these women who make these pretentious sa claims which are

03:22:25.300 completely and totally unfounded which ruin men's lives i think that is terrible has complete and total

03:22:29.780 control over throwing them out and ruining their lives absent any criminal investigation whatsoever

03:22:35.380 let's talk about that statistically that is much less likely than a essay allegation being

03:22:42.420 founded in truth and majority yeah prove it okay statistically false allegations are more common

03:22:48.580 yeah like you prove it i i just i know so many women so here's the thing we can prove it so let's

03:22:54.020 take a look objectively go ahead when you say essay you also will make the bold claim then these are

03:23:00.580 consent claims where you will claim that a woman after she's engaged in the deed can take consent

03:23:06.260 away yes they do it all the time and you know that that's done i am not that woman and i would

03:23:12.020 say you are but i just want you to acknowledge that that is done i'm sure it has happened the same way

03:23:18.740 that men have gone and actually assaulted certain women absolutely and majority of those cases are

03:23:24.820 never reported i have no dispute with that majority of men who are essayed it's by other men it's neat

03:23:31.540 that you will only acknowledge that men are engaged in this essay culture but you don't acknowledge

03:23:37.060 that the counter to this is that women often make up these false essays when did i not acknowledge

03:23:41.780 that absolutely no way to have any recourse because it's done outside of even a criminal justice system

03:23:48.180 this is what i was talking about when i feel like this podcast is just telling me my opinions

03:23:52.740 i completely disagree i'm not telling you your i completely disagree with women doing false

03:23:58.100 accusations i think that is a horrible thing to do to someone else it is not something i would ever

03:24:03.140 do nor do i agree with nor do i promote i think there should be full criminal investigations i think

03:24:09.140 there should be um oh yeah why do i get the feeling that you have you have a woman's right to choose

03:24:15.780 sign up but you've never had a let's investigate the men who are falsely accused of essay i would

03:24:22.580 100 if there were men who were falsely accused of essay i would 100 be in support of promoting

03:24:31.860 further investigation into those cases the same way i would promote further investigation into any

03:24:37.140 essay charge um and i think one of the issues is we're trying to talk about like an issue that can

03:24:42.260 be prominent to women and it's being overridden by but what about this when we should be discussing

03:24:47.620 like one issue yeah but that's what about focus on one thing and then we put our focus on the next

03:24:51.620 thing yeah yeah but it's a whataboutism to begin with and then you're also you're going to use a

03:24:55.620 whataboutism as your argument it's fair play to use whataboutism back against and sure but you're

03:25:00.260 also telling me i have a different political ideology that i haven't discussed on and i haven't spoken on

03:25:05.620 just okay let me just ask you directly so that i'm not straw manning anything at all are you pro-choice

03:25:10.900 for me personally i am pro-choice i personally i personally would choose to not have an abortion

03:25:17.460 though for me personally but i think under under the united states clause of privacy under the united

03:25:24.500 states clause of privacy i believe women have the right of privacy to their body and their own

03:25:30.020 autonomy choice whether or not i would do it myself is a different conversation i personally think i would

03:25:35.940 not be able to live with that because i very deeply want to be a mother and i think and have you

03:25:40.260 engaged in political activism no never i mean not not to a sustainable capacity no what does that

03:25:50.340 mean i i i'm not in politics i i don't directly change laws ever engaged in political activism have

03:25:59.140 you been out there marching with blm have you been doing things like this ever uh maybe when i was young

03:26:04.580 yeah okay gotcha and have you ever marched for any men's rights advocacy whatsoever ever um i don't see

03:26:14.660 the relevance if it's not something i have you haven't you i i just don't see the relevance because

03:26:20.580 the relevance is showing you this that it's interesting that on the one hand you say i'm totally against

03:26:26.820 all these things okay hang on i'm trying to tell you so that you know do you want to hear the answer

03:26:33.140 or not go ahead go ahead when you say when you say i'm engaged in all this political activism or even

03:26:38.500 a minor amount of political activism that the political activism that you're engaged in is never

03:26:43.300 for men's rights advocacy while the other corner of your mouth you say that you would be for men's

03:26:48.740 i actually have under these certain conditions but of course your political advocacy never reflects

03:26:53.380 that that i actually have advocated online several times and in several conversations

03:26:58.580 on my social media platforms i do poetry on tiktok as well as live discussions on my tiktok um i have

03:27:05.620 talked about how men's um unalive rates are extremely high in our country and that is a problem i'm very

03:27:12.580 passionate about and i have seen a lot of men patriarchy right why why are you guessing what i am

03:27:18.260 doing why are you telling my opinion i'll just ask you directly who do you blame it on the patriarchy

03:27:22.100 or feminine i would never blame i would never blame such a horrible issue andrew she said she

03:27:28.340 she says you're not a good i would never beat me on a point i'll believe i would never blame such

03:27:33.780 a sensitive and horrible issue on any positions out is to guess at them because she won't tell us

03:27:39.540 them she hides i just told you she hides them on purpose every time i've asked a probing question

03:27:45.060 it's always hidden it's always a word okay so let's never direct let me just ask you directly

03:27:50.340 are you a progressive feminist who is pro-choice who believes that a patriarchal system is oppressing

03:27:56.660 women or not those are two specific blanket terms and i don't agree with the term ideology

03:28:03.620 questions then

03:28:08.340 do you believe that a patriarchy is oppressing women and are you a progressive feminist who is pro-choice

03:28:15.060 no okay so you're not pro-choice i i am pro-choice but those are okay are you a progressive you had

03:28:24.180 you are boxing people to get an answer out of her and then you are possible to get an answer out of

03:28:29.700 her because life is not so black and white people can have different opinions people can be pro-choice for

03:28:36.740 others and personally pro-life people can believe that men have problems in society and women have

03:28:43.060 problems in society i believe that both many groups of people suffer in their own unique way i think

03:28:49.780 that is really invalid to do such drastic blanket terms on such vast issues in my opinion okay okay

03:28:57.460 let's try this a different way then if if if you had to choose between progressive

03:29:03.700 liberal feminist why do i have to conservative if you had to it's a hypothetical or traditional values

03:29:13.620 uh female which one would you pick i would pick neither if you had to i why do i have to there's

03:29:21.060 no because that's the point of the hypothetical you're instigating you're instigating on things

03:29:25.140 that i don't politically align with just just it doesn't matter just try to engage in the hypothetical

03:29:29.860 okay maybe maybe it doesn't matter but a hypothetical is designed to test your logic

03:29:33.860 so breakfast let me ask the dial in yellow who thinks that i'm a terrible debater same question

03:29:38.260 posed to you let's see if you can answer it what traditional uh trad con traditional conservative

03:29:45.140 values you believe in conservatism progressive feminist you had to choose the label which one

03:29:51.380 do you choose like if i had to choose which one i am yeah progressive feminist yeah exactly so now back

03:29:57.860 over to you now that you saw that somebody can actually give a straight answer which one would

03:30:02.820 you choose um i'm declining this conversation yeah that's right because you don't want to be honest

03:30:10.660 like that cigarette with honesty it has everything to do with me personally aligning with certain

03:30:16.900 political ideologies not saying you do i'm saying you had to choose between the two hypothetically you

03:30:22.660 only have these two to choose from which one would you be more aligned with

03:30:28.900 you don't know you don't even know it's you engage in political activism you don't know which side

03:30:33.140 you're more politically activated when did i say i engage in political activism i just got it out of

03:30:38.100 you five seconds ago asked you if you marched with black lives matter said sure when i was younger

03:30:41.700 that's political activism so now back to this if you had to choose between the two which one would you

03:30:46.740 choose you got this i believe in you guys that's so condescending my point is is that you got this

03:30:55.060 just answer the question holy shit it's hypothetical if you had to pick oh my god fine she won't do it

03:31:00.660 okay hold on uh let me read one chat isaac uh weird because tiktok literally is full of misandry man

03:31:06.420 hating women and those account holders with millions of followers are making bank i only see women in the

03:31:11.140 comments agreeing and if any man chimes in he's doxxed thank you isaac appreciate it man absolutely

03:31:17.300 true tiktok will uh suppress anything that's misogynistic but it'll absolutely elevate misandrist

03:31:23.940 things and you can this is actually evidenced i don't know the exact keywords but you can search

03:31:28.260 for like a hashtags and i think a hashtag i don't know exactly i don't want anybody to quote me on this

03:31:34.580 it's either men are bad and then women are bad and you can't even search for women are bad but you

03:31:40.820 can search for uh men are bad or it's i think men suck versus or hashtag men suck hashtag women

03:31:47.220 suck you can't even find any results for women suck but men suck totally fine um isaac thank you

03:31:52.260 very much for that uh so isabelle has a heart out at 9 p.m she has she does have a flight to catch

03:31:58.420 you guys so what i'm gonna do actually um maybe andrew we can pick some of this stuff back up after

03:32:04.260 she leaves i'm just gonna open the floor to isabel i'm hands off no no no i'm just gonna open the

03:32:08.500 floor to isabel if you want to just kind of you it sounded like you had some questions you want to

03:32:12.580 ask just here for your last unless you can stay past nine a little we will stay as as long as we

03:32:17.540 possibly can as long as you can but the floor is yours thank you brian you can perhaps you know

03:32:23.220 you'll get rid of this toxic masculinity and we'll get some some femininity in here so go ahead no

03:32:29.620 actually i just think this is a great opportunity for us to talk about some of these issues because i'm

03:32:34.340 hearing a lot of stuff thrown around about pornography about abortion i think there's a

03:32:38.820 cool dialogue that we can start with some of this so first and foremost um i think easily the issue

03:32:44.500 that most people are attaching to women as we get closer to the november election is the issue of

03:32:49.460 abortion luce you kind of just opened up your perspective on this but i would love to just hear

03:32:53.540 from everybody what you think is going on in the country where you're personally coming from and

03:32:57.380 if you might be open-minded to any change of perspective on that um i think such a beautiful thing

03:33:03.300 about america is kind of our foundation of freedom and privacy um i really really respect

03:33:10.820 the privacy clause and i do think issues such as abortion do fall under privacy clause and autonomy

03:33:17.540 personal autonomy that every individual should have in this country um the same way that a lot of um

03:33:24.100 uh pro-life um individuals from a right standpoint would argue that it was unfair to be forced to be

03:33:33.620 vaccinated i think it's kind of the same conceptualization for me personally of abortion i think

03:33:38.500 the same way it's unfair to be forced to have a vaccine is the same way it's unfair to force someone

03:33:42.820 to um not have an abortion or to have an abortion so i think that that is my perspective of being pro-choice

03:33:49.540 um is under privacy clause i understand that there are of course certain laws in place about how far

03:33:58.260 into the term um pregnancies can be terminated but i will argue that realistically unless it is for um

03:34:05.220 the survival of the mother is very very very rare that there are ever late-term abortions really okay

03:34:11.940 yeah statistic i've done some research into this and it is fairly fairly low because very few people

03:34:20.100 will go through the turmoil and the physical changes of pregnancy just to later decide that they don't

03:34:25.140 want the child it's usually founded in um for example uh neurological disorders or physical disorders

03:34:32.260 such as developing without a heart or developing without lungs to the point where the fetus could not

03:34:37.220 even survive outside the womb so how would you respond come from a body autonomy perspective to

03:34:42.980 this idea that it's not just your body in the conversation anymore um i totally hear that and i really

03:34:49.780 i really understand that this is such a sensitive subject um but i do think that because

03:34:58.740 there has not been yet the opportunity of thought and conceptualization for a fetus um in early

03:35:07.540 development i would not consider it um to be a full life or a full individual at conception i think that

03:35:16.820 um obviously super late-term abortion and things like that are more unethical in my opinion but i do think

03:35:24.100 um you know accidental pregnancy or um you know assault or other confounds can create dynamics in which

03:35:34.820 it is very practical for women to um abstain from childbirth and i think um you know these sort of things

03:35:43.380 happen um but i think the other issue of being anti-pro choice is just that people are going to have

03:35:50.020 abortions no matter what wouldn't you rather these women have abortions in a place where it was

03:35:54.020 safe for them to one have children later in life not go infertile from a botched you know underground

03:35:59.540 abortion um you know protects their own autonomy and healthcare and their ability to reproduce later

03:36:07.060 i think is so important and you know all these people are going to do it anyway the same way that

03:36:11.220 even though drugs are illegal people do drugs just reality and that's such a sad thing and i'm sad that

03:36:17.620 you know abortion is the better choice for a lot of women in an ideal world it would never be a

03:36:22.820 necessity but i i would argue for a lot of women you know it is a necessity for safety um just due to

03:36:30.740 socioeconomic status etc lots and lots to talk about there and i think all worth conversations having i'm

03:36:37.300 curious just to open up to everybody else anybody else feel comfortable sharing where they're coming

03:36:40.900 from on this i am personally pro-choice okay totally based on comfortability you don't have to jump in if

03:36:48.820 you don't want to i'm 100 pro-choice and just based on the industry that i've been in and situations that

03:36:54.980 i've seen women in um how we were talking about how you would prefer or how you want to have a good

03:37:01.060 mother in the household what if that girl gets into like a relationship where i mean we've all been there

03:37:07.620 we've been in a relationship that wasn't good for us but we thought we were in love and we stayed in

03:37:12.180 that situation even though in the future we knew that it'd be harmful to us or we knew that we don't

03:37:18.020 have the finances to bring that baby into the world you know um somebody was talking about adoption and

03:37:25.220 how adoption can be harmful um there's just so many other reasons that a woman can decide you know what

03:37:33.940 i don't think it's good for me nor this child i don't want to hurt this kid by bringing this child

03:37:39.780 into the world um the subject that we can't talk about grapes for that to happen and she's on her

03:37:47.860 own uh there's just there's so much so i believe that pro-choice is a good option if you're in that

03:37:53.620 situation also like to say i'm pretty sure i'm recalling this correctly but um you are considered

03:37:58.820 pregnant from the day of your last period um depends on your provider but yeah yeah so like that can

03:38:05.860 like really affect you know abortion terms um which like can be understandable if like you don't really

03:38:12.980 know like if it's like she got pregnant a day after her period or 30 days after her period um but if she

03:38:20.100 got pregnant like 30 days after her period she's already a month pregnant anybody disagree with any

03:38:25.220 of that out of curiosity disagree with that's that's like medically not that perspective just

03:38:30.900 everything that's been said so far no i'm i'm pro-choice and it's one of those things that

03:38:35.460 it's very unfortunate but like i don't think this debate can ever be like solved because

03:38:41.300 i i assume you're christian so i'm assuming you believe that life begins at consumption and that

03:38:46.900 child do but you just made an assumption wait i thought that that that's what made you a bad

03:38:51.140 debate or that you make assumptions what correct it was if she would have said no i i would have i'm

03:38:57.140 wearing a big old cross necklace so it's okay it's okay she has a cross necklace and i believe

03:39:01.460 she said it cross tattoo also to boot so it's okay earlier as well um but actually i would say

03:39:07.300 my belief about life beginning at conception i wouldn't even argue it's my belief it's just

03:39:10.900 biological fact comes from my my background with two degrees in biomedical sciences far more than it

03:39:15.300 does my catholic faith i guess by life i mean more like you believe that a child has a soul right

03:39:20.020 like you believe that there is there is a there's a potential life there that has a soul it has an

03:39:25.540 existence and that's like if someone is not christian they don't believe that necessarily so

03:39:31.460 it's one of those things where i 100 see how someone who believes that that's like a soul and if

03:39:37.540 they're aborted they're they're dead they're they're going to i don't know exactly what you

03:39:42.180 would believe but i understand why someone who believes that would think that abortion is like

03:39:46.420 abhorrent like that is it's murder from that perspective so from an atheist perspective do human

03:39:51.060 beings not have souls yeah what sets us apart from other life forms i mean i'm not an atheist but

03:39:56.660 i think that someone who doesn't believe in like the soul doesn't believe in an afterlife abortion is

03:40:02.580 completely it's like a different thing so there's like a fundamental disconnect there that like i can

03:40:06.740 i don't imagine i could ever convince you that that's not murder but no one could ever convince me

03:40:11.460 that like a child you know in the womb has a soul and will go to hell or will go to heaven i'm not

03:40:19.620 sure where you know we believe they'll go like that's just like a thing like that's a theological

03:40:24.260 difference so that's why i worry that like the debate can really never be like reconciled because

03:40:28.340 like i'm never going to convince you that that's not murder and i don't think i could ever be convinced

03:40:34.660 grid one motorsports donated two hundred dollars should the father have a say in you killing his child

03:40:41.220 because it is inconvenient to you that's interesting he should have a say

03:40:47.140 that's as far as i think that goes for that everybody's situation is different how do you

03:40:54.260 guys feel about some limits on all of this loose i know you talked about there eventually being a

03:40:59.620 point that you think that's unethical at what point do you think living underscored donated two

03:41:06.660 hundred dollars isabel i read an article where in canada women can get abortions even up to the

03:41:12.660 point of knowing the baby's sex i know there are cases of women aborting based on gender reminds me

03:41:19.620 of china that's messed up yeah that happens in the united states actually every single day which is

03:41:24.980 terrible but how do you guys feel about some sort of restriction on this do you feel represented by

03:41:31.380 the left today in this anything goes even for that reason aborting based on the gender of your child

03:41:36.900 through all nine months of pregnancy does that make you uncomfortable sure um i think that you

03:41:42.100 know there's a lot of discussion on how we don't live in a patriarchy but then you're going ahead and

03:41:47.700 aborting a baby based off the gender i'm assuming the preference gender would be male um statistically i

03:41:55.380 think that you know there are certain compounds that i do think it does become ethical such as if your

03:42:01.700 child is going to be born with a severe medical problem and you are unable to provide for a safe

03:42:08.100 space and medical care for that child it could be debated for being ethical but i do think at a certain

03:42:17.060 point um if you are close to a full-term pregnancy you know adoption could be a good option for a parent that

03:42:24.820 is not willing to um raise the child individually but i do think that it isn't a free-for-all and i

03:42:32.740 think that a lot of these arguments come from a place of assuming that people are just like having

03:42:37.620 abortions for fun you know it's some are unfortunately and i think that it has been too normalized in media

03:42:44.660 of like joking around about it because you know i think it's a really traumatic thing for women and i think

03:42:50.660 even though a lot of the time choosing to not have that baby is the right choice for these women

03:42:56.020 it shouldn't be kind of made into a mockery i think it's a really really difficult decision and

03:43:01.220 i know a lot of women personally who have either lost children or had to have abortions um myself my

03:43:09.620 mom was considering not having me and aborting me my father asked her to have an abortion at the time

03:43:16.980 um so obviously it's a personal issue to me i wouldn't exist um but i do think that there is

03:43:24.900 a hundred percent validity and having those choices um that is part of why you know our country is free

03:43:31.380 but i do think there needs to be better conversations around you know it not being so normalized but i do

03:43:37.780 think there is this bias in saying that like oh people use it as a form of like birth control it's super

03:43:43.540 expensive nobody's nobody who wants to have an abortion is trying to get pregnant do you do you

03:43:49.460 understand what i'm saying exactly okay a lot of the issues too with like if i don't know the numbers

03:43:55.380 if abortions are increasing or not but um across like the united states a lot of people our age are

03:44:02.260 really struggling financially and if you can't even take care of yourself financially let alone the

03:44:06.820 stress of a child on top of that like your last resort is to get an abortion i guess i just have a

03:44:12.500 really hard time trying to wrap my head around the circumstances of your conception impacting the

03:44:18.100 value of your worth as a human being whether you were conceived in sa you were conceived in a low

03:44:23.300 socioeconomic status you're conceived and you develop to happen to have a disability does that not bother

03:44:28.820 you that our society has attached these conditions that i think we're thinking of it in terms of like

03:44:33.860 the traumatic the trauma that it would bring to either the child or the mother in those situations

03:44:39.060 so are we guaranteed a life without trauma then or are we guaranteed a life without suffering as any

03:44:45.460 human being sorry you're good i i think we've assigned this notion for whatever reason modern

03:44:54.340 feminism has with women of our generation that it's somehow more compassionate to just never allow

03:44:59.060 that person to exist like theoretically lucy if you weren't sitting here at this table because

03:45:02.500 your parents had gone through with what their plan was to never allow someone else to exist out of

03:45:07.220 supposed feigned compassion because that person might experience suffering in their life isn't

03:45:13.060 that the same line of thinking that eugenicists have used throughout all of human history to say

03:45:18.260 oh it's just more compassionate it's better for them i agree that there is trauma with like every

03:45:22.900 single life um i think at the end of the day it's more of like a personal personal decision

03:45:28.180 a personal like moral um someone weighing out the pros and cons of the decision that they're going to

03:45:35.380 make and for some people that decision fits them and for some it doesn't i think it's selfish and

03:45:41.940 noble at the same time to prevent a child suffering i know growing up that my parents like they both had

03:45:49.300 mental illness and they weren't able to provide like emotional support for a little kid growing up and

03:45:56.100 there was a lot of healing that i had to do and still like doing and recovering from that and personally

03:46:01.620 for me i would not want to put a child through that if i can avoid it so when does that decision

03:46:07.700 get to happen then i think i hear a lot of this of i think there could be like more um productive

03:46:14.580 solutions for sure rather than like just deciding whether or not this situation deserves an abortion

03:46:20.500 or not whereas like if we had solutions of like mental health crisis help like more mental health services

03:46:26.660 um more services to like help families or like more services to help people get better paying jobs so they

03:46:32.660 can support a family yeah all important things totally so more productive i think my question would be

03:46:39.300 in deciding whether or not it's fair or ethical or positive to bring this child into the world when does that

03:46:44.660 decision get to happen after you're pregnant or do we make that decision before we have sex up front

03:46:50.660 i think abstinence is a flawed way of being anti-abortion because the reality is is people a lot of

03:47:02.820 people are going to have sex a lot of religious people are going to have sex a lot of you know

03:47:07.940 very high moral people are going to have sex married people will have sex yeah but that's uh that's an

03:47:12.980 is odd gap so you're saying because this is true that that means that this thing that ought to happen i just

03:47:18.100 think i think being being pro-choice and wanting to create a space in which people have access to

03:47:27.300 resources that would essentially in in your ideal world end abortions um could be great in theory but

03:47:35.220 having the conversation of like sex only being something for pregnancy i think no i don't think it is i

03:47:41.940 think sorry it's a consequence of a consequence of sex being pregnancy as in creating a world in

03:47:49.540 which abstinence is kind of the way is a really hard argument to do because i just think they do

03:47:56.660 become separate issues and a lot of people have sex why are they why are they separate issues

03:48:01.940 pregnancy cannot happen absent penis going in vagina because a lot of people are on birth

03:48:07.140 control control use condoms and still end up getting pregnant and i'm not saying the abstinence

03:48:12.580 wouldn't have been the better option in that example right so the only way to prevent those

03:48:16.260 pregnancies would have been not to have but i do but yes but i do think to some

03:48:23.220 compound there are plenty of people who don't have proper education or proper resources yeah

03:48:27.780 they're just not educated they don't know putting the penis in the vagina leads to my freshman my

03:48:31.780 my my junior year of college my junior year of college a girl told me she said i thought you

03:48:38.980 couldn't get pregnant the first time you have sex because you're still a virgin a lot of people don't

03:48:43.780 have good sexual education in america yeah i actually totally huge problem and i think abortions would

03:48:49.140 be significantly lower if we had better sex education i totally agree we have horrible sex

03:48:54.420 education in this country in fact it's planned parenthood who writes most of the sex education in this

03:48:58.580 country and they typically are trying to reach younger and younger and younger audiences by

03:49:02.580 promoting promiscuity and promoting sexual activity great example is the university of

03:49:07.060 or not university the the chicago public schools district is now handing out condoms starting in

03:49:11.540 fifth grade in all of your classrooms so if you are nine or ten years old you can get free condoms in

03:49:16.660 your public school classroom in chicago as you are being taught sexual education by planned parenthood who

03:49:22.020 then will tell students hey it's okay if you guys get pregnant oopsies uh i just want to i just want to be

03:49:27.860 clear that you're saying that you really think that there are people a lot of people who just

03:49:34.260 don't know that putting the penis in the vagina leads to having a child i just want to make sure

03:49:39.460 that we're clear on that i mean you just gave an example i just gave an example of someone i knew

03:49:43.780 personally so you had some stupid friend who thought that that's that's an exception most of your friends

03:49:49.220 do not not know where babies come from right i think a lot of people who are initially having sex do not

03:49:56.500 have proper sexual education to yeah i know that i'm asking you a specific question the specific

03:50:02.820 question i think some people do most of your friends and have most of your friends always

03:50:08.020 know but a majority of my friends have access to education that if you put the penis in the vagina

03:50:13.300 it could lead to a baby my mom was very religious and i was not aware of that until i was 16 years

03:50:19.060 old so you weren't aware that putting a penis in a vagina led to a baby until you were 16 years old

03:50:24.980 really that is correct i think we only have a couple can i get a show of hands at the table

03:50:30.020 of women who are at this table who did not know until they were 16 years old that if a man's penis

03:50:36.980 went into a woman's vagina that could potentially lead to a baby go ahead show me the hands 16. i thought

03:50:42.820 having sex with a woman you could conceive with so clearly we have a larger sex ed problem in this

03:50:49.460 country my point is you're saying we should homeschool because i guess when you're homeschooled

03:50:55.220 you might know this this seems very basic it's unbelievable to me so i guess homeschooling would

03:51:01.220 be optimal yeah because then at least children would know that not sticking the penis in the vagina

03:51:06.340 that would that leads to the baby that seems insane to me i knew that when i was 10. i knew it when i was

03:51:12.020 10. do you think that like homeschool parents who are most likely more like traditional

03:51:17.780 are really gonna tell their kids like give them proper sexual education that isn't just

03:51:24.180 wait till marriage well they're the most likely because i mean i don't think that's true because

03:51:27.940 i think i think they will and it's completely their right to but i think they will push an abstinence

03:51:33.140 only perspective and that is great well let me finish that's great if the child listens and if

03:51:39.540 they wait until marriage to have sex but what happens because they could fail they should never

03:51:44.340 try great where did your glasses and hair go maddie help me search for gustavo's glasses he will need

03:51:52.740 them leading the charge on the battlefield of love sex ed is parents responsibility yeah let's just note um

03:52:00.340 here that if your criticism of homeschooling is that traditionalists might explain that you should be

03:52:06.340 chased because a man's penis going your vagina may lead to a baby do you think that you could

03:52:12.980 actually accomplish if you homeschooled your kids this great feat of explaining to them that if a penis

03:52:19.220 goes in your vagina you might get pregnant and do you think that that's actually hard to do in

03:52:24.260 comparison to apparently the public school system which can't explain to a 16 year old that this is the

03:52:29.700 case wait andrew can we say p in the v yeah sure p in the v you know how does this 16 year old you're

03:52:36.820 gonna you really gonna endorse the public school system a 16 year old doesn't know that that's the

03:52:41.460 case another woman doesn't know that engaging in lesbian sex doesn't lead to reproduction and your

03:52:47.860 whole thing with homeschooling is but these trads might not explain it really that's the argument

03:52:53.620 that's not my argument i said what if the kid doesn't listen and they don't understand but

03:52:58.580 they could that's the same criticism you could apply to a public school if they could go to a public

03:53:03.140 school absolutely i do not listen i think we've established that public schools are not successful

03:53:07.700 at it either i'm saying yeah so so if the criticism then if the criticism then is that this is it could

03:53:14.420 happen in public schools which it clearly does we have two case examples of it happening right here at

03:53:18.820 this table if that's the criticism it could happen there and in a homeschooled house let me ask you

03:53:24.500 specifically is your daughter going to know by the appropriate age that if a penis goes in her

03:53:32.980 or a p and a v in the v happens that she may get pregnant is she going to know that i have a

03:53:38.740 question absolutely yes i have a question insane hold on it's like it's too many questions

03:53:44.340 too many questions going on uh isabel does have a hard out i'm so sorry i do i wish we had so much

03:53:51.140 more time to talk about all of this stuff but i am really encouraged first and foremost that we're

03:53:55.460 willing to talk about this stuff that people in positions of power are telling us to never talk about

03:53:59.940 that is such a signal of hope for me about our generation and i i hope that we can create more

03:54:05.540 opportunities for stuff like this because i look around this table and despite all of the crazy

03:54:09.380 things that have been said in the chat and a lot of the disagreement and divisiveness

03:54:13.140 i see so much beauty in the women of our generation waking up to these lies of leftism

03:54:18.100 be it hookup culture be it the hormonal birth control pill we didn't have time to go into that

03:54:22.100 today or abortion uh but even just a desire for something more right a desire for marriage a desire

03:54:26.980 for children and motherhood i remain really optimistic about the future of this generation

03:54:31.700 and i'm so grateful for you all being willing to open your heart and your mind to a different

03:54:36.180 perspective that's very challenging to do in the world that we live in today and brian kudos to

03:54:41.060 you for continuing to do that multiple times every week because no problem people are really

03:54:45.780 actively trying to halt these conversations to further that division but i'm grateful for every

03:54:50.580 single one of you can i ask you isabel before you go for it doesn't it seem like an absurd endorsement

03:54:58.260 of the public school system if this woman here in the blue didn't know you could get pregnant until

03:55:03.300 she was 16 years old my my school did not have sexual education at all didn't you have parents

03:55:09.220 your parents never told you this so i was actually in cps and dealing with um parental custody problems

03:55:16.900 and now i have two lovely parents who have had extremely um open conversations with me about sex and

03:55:23.540 sexuality and i'm very grateful for that but i think it is ignorant to say that every individual

03:55:27.700 has this other state system that you went to also did not explain this to you so the state has just

03:55:33.060 failed you at every possible level cps failed to tell you that my high school babies come from

03:55:38.420 the public the only concept i had of sex was pornography and pornography does not discuss the

03:55:44.580 criticism was but what if they don't follow why are you attacking the way i was quick answer to your

03:55:50.900 question andrew yes scathing indictment of the public school system but it's also the public school

03:55:55.700 system that's teaching kids today that men can get pregnant and people actually believe this so

03:55:59.860 much bigger issues happening in the public education system and i think conversations like this are so

03:56:04.340 important because it just goes to show how truly little at actual education is happening within our

03:56:09.460 generation it's all indoctrination and propaganda all right thank you all i got a jet to the airport

03:56:16.900 i can't i can't i can't just let you walk there hang on we're almost done but i gotta ask you this

03:56:21.620 how credible is it to you that inside of a public school system and the cps and all of these state-run

03:56:32.420 organizations nobody told this woman that a penis going in the vagina could lead to pregnancy that

03:56:39.700 doesn't sound absurd of course it's absurd that periods don't hurt yeah of course it's absurd andrew but

03:56:47.460 sadly it's not the most absurd thing i've even heard in the last 24 hours and i think for most

03:56:52.020 people they are so unaware of how deep the rot of systemic lies from leftism authoritarian leftism

03:56:59.700 has taken over every aspect of civilization in america the entertainment industry the education system

03:57:06.260 media politics even the church right it's becoming more popular to recite the sparkle creed

03:57:11.380 on sunday rather than understand the tradition of of religion wouldn't it then be true that if the

03:57:16.660 criticism is well wait a second you could tell your children at a younger age than 16 which is insane

03:57:24.500 that p to the v might lead to a baby um if you could tell them at a younger age that this was the case

03:57:32.580 how in the world could that be an indictment of homeschooling isabel oh i'm so ecstatic to see

03:57:38.020 homeschooling on the rise and i don't even think it's labeled as like a trad thing to do anymore

03:57:42.260 over 11 percent of american families are homeschooling their kids largely after covid

03:57:46.580 because we got a front row seat into what's happening inside the classroom so all incredible

03:57:50.820 things and that's really the message that i want to leave this on today look again we can focus on the

03:57:54.900 doom and gloom apocalyptic gen z is destroying america thing that i think is so attractive and low

03:58:00.180 hanging fruit but at the exact same time and this is what i wrote my entire book about that hit

03:58:04.420 shelves a few weeks ago you're watching this dramatic counter-cultural radical movement of

03:58:10.820 young people looking around at every single lie that's being told to us in society in school in

03:58:16.020 pornography on only fans in the abortion industry everywhere that things we talked about tonight

03:58:21.060 and realizing you know we're tired of being lied to we're tired of empty promises we're tired of

03:58:25.380 secularism we're tired of leftism we want something a whole lot more meaningful and for all the crazy

03:58:30.340 divisive things that we've said today i'm so happy to know that every single person sitting

03:58:35.060 around this table wants to get married and everybody but two wants to be a mom those are

03:58:39.940 the types of wait i don't want to get married brian i don't want to get married hold on how dare you

03:58:44.740 let's keep you here another 20 minutes insane person no it's just exciting to see because those are the

03:58:50.340 cultural changes that we are starting to make on an individual basis that ultimately will impact

03:58:55.780 politics that ultimately will impact policy but as andrew breitbart is famous for saying you can't

03:59:00.580 change politics unless you change culture unless you change how people live their day-to-day lives

03:59:04.660 and us quitting our birth control deleting our dating apps wanting to get married in a culture

03:59:08.260 telling us not to do that wanting to have kids we might still fundamentally disagree on a whole lot

03:59:13.300 politically but i see this as an incredible launch pad and stepping stone into common ground and a

03:59:18.740 future country we're all proud to call home again that's just based in objective reality on things like

03:59:24.580 where babies come from and i'm hopeful that our ability to have these difficult conversations

03:59:29.220 makes a better path forward for everyone who comes after us well thank you for coming thanks guys off to

03:59:35.140 the airport uh madison why don't you take that seat safe travels all right let's get into some juicy

03:59:41.460 guys we got some juicy we got some juicy stuff here uh madison take the seat please uh all right guys

03:59:49.060 let me do a couple chats and then we're getting into it we're getting back so six pack chad madison

03:59:56.820 can you read this girl in blue if your theory is correct why is no one calling the black woman a

04:00:02.340 brat or the girl in green a brat they're not calling you a brat because you're a woman it's because you're

04:00:06.820 an idiot i call myself a brat i just want to like state that yeah you self-identify as as as a brat

04:00:15.300 would you be my brat oh daddy what are we daddy what are we daddy all right we have brian misogynist

04:00:24.580 goat maddie can you read this thank you because brian's misogynistic 30 to 40 year old men talks

04:00:31.700 toxically judging 18 to 25 year old girls with hypocritical evangelical agenda your chastity

04:00:39.140 virgin hunting mindset is 0.01 of the u.s and is actually horrible for life on earth okay um

04:00:48.980 well we have people of all ages on the show anywhere from anywhere from 18 to we've had people in their

04:00:54.180 50s and 60s people younger than me people or older than me we don't uh discriminate on that front

04:00:59.620 hypocritical evangelical agenda i'm actually i mean uh you know i i believe in god but i'm not

04:01:06.420 really uh all that religious um chastity virgin hunting mindset uh i think body count matters i

04:01:13.940 prefer when it comes to dating i prefer women with a low body count and if that means she's a virgin

04:01:18.340 cool but uh she doesn't have to be a virgin for me to date her but i i mean it would be i suppose the

04:01:24.500 most optimum optimal if she's a virgin uh people allowed to have their preferences so you are right

04:01:31.940 though it's a very small portion of the uh of the uh dating pool that uh is like that but i'll

04:01:39.620 i'll she doesn't have to be a virgin but uh thank you man misogynist goat dope canadian jim canadian

04:01:44.900 hundred if you can read this one so by her definition if people were individually to hold

04:01:48.900 prejudice towards a specific race that would not be racism makes zero sense sorry and that's why you

04:01:53.540 get hate from chat merci beaucoup for the canadian you're probably in the french speaking canadian

04:01:58.820 in parts so merci canadian jim is this directed towards you or towards you i don't even know at

04:02:03.060 this point maybe it's you apparently you can't be racist towards white people a couple people that

04:02:08.900 seems to be the position can't be racist towards white people what if i was in china just curious could

04:02:14.420 could then that's a good question i i even then no i mean i think people in china could definitely

04:02:21.700 be prejudiced towards a white person but i'd have to think about if it could be racism i don't think

04:02:25.700 what you mean what because okay you can't uh in in china you couldn't be racist against a white

04:02:33.620 person in china like a chinese person if we're going off my definition of like institutional racism

04:02:38.900 you could maybe be racist against like white people who live in china and live there like full-time if

04:02:44.100 if they're discriminated against if they're tourists i think you could be prejudiced against them you

04:02:48.980 couldn't be what no i don't think what kind of like crazy definition when you when you give us the

04:02:54.180 definition because i noticed center center you see i'm always i'm always very nitpicky with words

04:03:00.260 because leftists like to use them as weapons i also do i'd like to ask you real quick can you give us

04:03:07.060 your definition of racism again because you keep saying if we're going off of my definition and i would

04:03:12.500 like to go off of your definition so what is it institutional racial discrimination and institutions are

04:03:18.660 like the government um i mean basically i'm just talking about the government but it could also

04:03:25.060 be like social institutions as well like schools just like the church could be an institution yeah

04:03:30.900 absolutely

04:03:34.980 yeah sure okay so when we're talking about institution what you're actually specifically saying here

04:03:40.100 is anything which could have authoritative political power sorry can you repeat the question

04:03:47.700 anything which has authoritative political power would be an institution i wouldn't say that but i

04:03:54.980 could i could yeah sure we can go with that well i want to make sure i'm clear on your definition

04:03:59.700 yeah yeah we can go with that so a church could have authoritative power oh yeah inside of government

04:04:10.500 right yes okay so what if you had an all-black church who was speaking out against whites that's an

04:04:18.980 authoritative institutional power would that be racist it's not on the same scale i think you have to

04:04:24.820 think i think you know now it's scalable so what scale is it when they lose the institution i do think

04:04:30.980 it's scalable actually i think it has to i mean obviously a um in a different country i think that

04:04:39.780 could be that could be racism i then i don't know i don't think that could be racist in this country

04:04:45.700 black people are still the minority they're still the minority there's still a history of chattel

04:04:50.100 slavery which white people have been enslaved but not in the same way chattel slavery

04:04:54.100 okay so i just want to clarify on this if if if blacks were the majority for an institutional power

04:05:03.220 then that institutional power could be racist right yeah i think so and do you know what the black

04:05:09.060 population is of detroit i mean that's detroit we're talking about the united states as a whole

04:05:14.580 yeah hang on i was very specific about what institutional power was here and you said

04:05:19.540 any authoritative body which has political power would be an institution yes or no okay so do you

04:05:27.700 know what the racial demographic is of detroit i'm guessing majority black oh a vast majority

04:05:36.820 so if they were to i don't know from the pulpit create anti-white rhetoric they now have institutional

04:05:45.700 authority by your definition correct they now have institutional power by your definition correct

04:05:54.100 that would fall under racism by your definition is that correct that i mean yes but if i'm really

04:06:02.020 thinking about it like that i would have to clarify that there would have to be some like institutional

04:06:07.860 power would have to actually have an effect on white people's lives like i guess i would adjust my

04:06:14.020 definition so if you have a majority black population and there's a minority white population and they

04:06:18.660 create any type of legislation from an authoritative position which is discriminatory towards white

04:06:24.900 people that would be racism right if they were creating legislation sure but i don't i really don't

04:06:29.780 think they created legislation okay which in any way shape or form in your hypothetical right yes in your

04:06:36.180 hypothetical if they were creating anti-white legislation that was having a real material effect on white

04:06:41.060 people's lives that would be anti-white racism i just want to make sure that we're clear then before i

04:06:46.420 give you such legislation which has been passed in detroit let's hear it that if i can give you

04:06:51.700 legislation passed in detroit which favored the majority inside of detroit in this case black people

04:06:57.540 and the minority of people are white people and they had legislation from basically an all-black political

04:07:04.900 body that this would be and fall under the criteria of anti-white racism

04:07:14.260 i i still think it's like i said you still you just can't do it even by your own definition no because

04:07:21.140 i think that it's scalable i really do i think we're talking about the united states we're not talking

04:07:25.940 about detroit we're talking about like a wide scale because when i say is there a church in the united

04:07:31.540 states is there a church of the united states no then how can church have churches have institutional

04:07:38.180 power you just said they could they can't have in it when i say oh oh they can oh that's crazy

04:07:45.380 institutional i mean the broad scale of the united states these smaller institutions make up that that

04:07:54.500 black church in detroit is an exception you'll have to talk about exceptions to the rule that is an

04:07:59.380 exception to the broader rule of anti-black racism in the united states not saying okay wait a second

04:08:05.620 so i'm not saying let's assume for a second it is an exception to the rule that would in no way negate

04:08:11.140 whether or not it was anti-white racism or not okay so i could say for instance okay then i then i

04:08:17.380 of women never had abortions but the minority of them did that the exception of the rule would be the

04:08:21.620 women who did not have abortions but that would not negate in any way the fact that those women had

04:08:26.420 abortions so if we move back to this i can even consider them outliers i'll grant your entire

04:08:32.020 argument and definitions all of it i mean my definitions are like correct i don't know why

04:08:36.980 you're acting like i'm making up hang on i'm just gonna explain it if you can grant that if i can

04:08:41.540 point out an institution which is formed by a majority minority block right at least living on this

04:08:49.780 court has coordinated 200 my wife's boyfriend is gonna kill me for spending all of his money tonight

04:08:56.820 to the yellow shirt where are you getting your definitions seems like you're just not wanting

04:09:02.100 to discredit minority history you want to respond all i'm asking yeah i'm getting my definitions just

04:09:09.860 from like i mean i'm a political science student you could say you think that it's like liberal oh i love

04:09:14.180 political science my favorite so i'm just gonna ask you how could you say if there's no church of

04:09:19.060 the united states that a church can have institutional power at a localized level which is all they're

04:09:23.780 ever going to have at a local level yeah but yet an entire city cannot cities do have institutional

04:09:29.140 power then if i can show you a city which is made up demographically of almost all minorities

04:09:34.020 and they pass legislation which favors those minorities over whites how in the world could you

04:09:38.340 consider that non-anti-white legislation i mean if it really genuinely had a negative material

04:09:44.100 effect on the lives of white people in detroit and that continued and that was sustained and it

04:09:50.020 put them in a subjugated position to black people sure being pro black people is so if a majority

04:09:57.380 let's assume for a second that a majority of a city was white and they passed legislation favoring whites

04:10:05.780 buying houses over blacks would you consider that to be a racist policy what do you mean by favoring

04:10:13.620 white people buying houses like it means that the government would be more willing to back them

04:10:19.140 over the white demographic all right i mean over the black demographic back them in what way like

04:10:24.340 not allowing black people to meaning that if a if a white man applied for the loan and a black man

04:10:29.620 applied for the loan and they all had equal credit equal credit scores equal everything they still favored

04:10:35.300 the black man would you would or the white man would you consider that racism yes yes now if i could

04:10:42.100 show you in detroit where they did the exact same thing favoring black i have a question sorry black

04:10:48.020 with a majority black population would that not be racist um no because historically no no hey listen

04:10:56.900 no that is that's equity no you guys are laughing is it combating redlining it's combating a historical

04:11:04.740 precedent that is combat stop laughing you look stupid right now that's that is no i don't think i look

04:11:10.660 stupid right absolutely i think you look stupid that's combating a historical precedent that like

04:11:15.860 redlining this is a yeah was it instated to combat redlining or is it its own political agenda i i'm

04:11:21.780 not familiar because i was very specific with my language i was very specific about asking what was

04:11:27.860 racism without putting in any other qualifiers i simply asked this question comparatively can you

04:11:33.220 if the institutional authority was the majority white and they instituted any policies which favored whites over

04:11:40.180 blacks when it came to buying houses would that be racist and her answer was yes when i reversed the

04:11:45.700 exact same thing with no qualifiers she still said no okay well the real world doesn't operate like that

04:11:52.500 how that is logical in any way shape or form when the institutional power is still localized in both cases

04:12:00.820 can you clarify if you're referencing a specific law that i'm unfamiliar with or is this hypothetical still

04:12:07.300 well let's just assume for a second it's hypothetical and i could get an agreement before i show the law

04:12:12.420 okay um i would say no first of all that would not be racism because yeah because if we're actually

04:12:21.620 thinking about this in context do you agree that racism is real anti-black racism is real yes and do you

04:12:27.860 agree there have been policies enacted all the way from slavery to jim crow that have subjugated black people

04:12:34.100 and put them in a in a subjugated economic position to white people yes and do you agree that has an

04:12:40.500 effect on them today yes just like i would agree that there's a anti-white bias which exists in the south

04:12:49.300 due to the civil war and the civil war created a cross-generational poverty sector for the south you

04:12:54.980 would have to agree intersectionally that that's true correct like the civil war created well you're

04:13:01.300 talking about intersectionalism hang on you're talking about intersectionalism right now and so

04:13:06.580 if we're talking about intersectionalism and i'm willing to concede to you and i do that there has

04:13:10.660 been anti-black policies which have been instituted in the united states which have been heavily racist

04:13:15.380 and that the cross-generational effect is that there are disadvantaged blacks to this day who are not

04:13:20.740 able to accumulate the same amount of wealth as the white ancestors of you and i me and you could both

04:13:26.340 agree that that's likely true right yeah okay well then logically we would need to extend that to

04:13:31.940 southern whites who also have at least at least 200 years of oppression from the north

04:13:40.340 i just don't wait wait wait a second hang on hang on yes it's the same exact intersectional logic it has

04:13:46.180 to be no it doesn't have to be because the entire south is burned down and all of their wealth is taken

04:13:51.220 and there's anti-white sediment in the south then it would stand to reason that they also cross

04:13:57.060 generation stop that they also are cross-generationally disadvantaged there's no way around that

04:14:02.100 logically yes there is you can't just like say something that's illogical and say there's no way

04:14:06.260 around my logic that didn't happen i say which was illogical i'm willing to hear you out slavery is

04:14:12.500 more prominent in the south i do have to move on i do have to move on we have david treziak

04:14:19.220 good job of the women panel i didn't get my comment read earlier no we we read both of your comments

04:14:25.060 about the barbecue thing we read both of them um i don't i didn't care i got denied exact food because

04:14:31.140 my race there is history women deserve the rights to health care by the way okay i guess that's in

04:14:37.220 relation to the uh pro-choice pro-life conversation we were having we have a couple super chats i need to

04:14:42.820 pull up we have uh fb whoa sexist woman call men sexist are they wrong yeah the girl in the blues

04:14:49.380 actions clearly show she's a selfish and entitled brat that hates men yet she thinks men calling

04:14:55.540 out her sexist behavior makes them bad talk about having your cake and eating it too

04:15:01.460 i do not hate men um just because i have opinions that you know certain things that certain men say could

04:15:08.500 be misogynistic doesn't mean that i believe that men don't suffer in any way i've never once said in

04:15:14.980 this entire podcast i hate men those words have never left my mouth i don't agree with that um what

04:15:20.820 do you think of men um do you guys know the famous quote by share where she says well i love men

04:15:31.540 yes why don't you say it for us does anyone know the full i know i know what you're talking about

04:15:36.420 yeah it's like i love men but i don't i don't need them to live i think actually you do no what do you

04:15:44.820 agree with her or you disagree no no no no it's just a very iconic famous feminist yeah but why bring it

04:15:50.500 it up because in my perspective i um i do love men i have a lot of have had great relationships

04:15:58.100 with men i love my father i think he's an amazing man um but but i think that it's okay for me to

04:16:06.180 also think that there are some aspects of misogyny in life the same way a man could say that you know

04:16:13.860 maybe i'm sorry if i said something sexist towards men i didn't have that intention i was just showing

04:16:20.420 or sharing my own perspectives of how i felt like i was being treated okay so so uh riffing off of

04:16:27.620 the share thing do we need men i think um all societies grow from like diversity and from

04:16:36.820 um inclusivity so yeah of course you you need men i mean procreation men are a part of that as well

04:16:43.620 um and i think i've needed a lot of the great men in my life um i just think it's a it's a silly

04:16:52.980 like interpretation of how how people think women perceive those relationships like oh i love men but

04:16:59.860 i also hate men it's it's not like that like i've i've never felt like i hated

04:17:04.900 i'm just a little confused why you brought up the share thing because the in the quote she she essentially

04:17:09.540 says i don't something like i don't need men i think she's like i i forgot someone asked her

04:17:16.660 the question do we need men or something and she says like she says no she says i am a rich man her

04:17:22.660 joke is that there's a notion in society that women only need men for money or to be successful

04:17:28.740 and i disagree well you actually need men to survive okay i just do you disagree i'm i was using her to

04:17:38.500 back to or to reference kind of a very famous like iconic perceived feminist quote um she has gotten

04:17:45.620 very that was a very famous introduction to the i hate men movement i would concur are you in favor of

04:17:53.220 her statement no i i i'm just playing off of it to be playful why is everything so serious no i'm just

04:18:00.340 i'm confused why you're bringing it up it's a silly fun funny thing where she's saying she's equally

04:18:05.060 successful as rich men that's not hold on i don't know if we're talking about it's her joke i love

04:18:08.820 men i but she's but i don't need them to live i am i told my mom she said to marry a rich man and i

04:18:15.060 told my mom i am a rich man hold on yeah just look it up i think it's a funny like it's kind of a cute

04:18:21.860 interpretation that she had of her own success uh i think so she was asked do you think men are

04:18:28.660 important and share responded by saying like for what as if to dismiss that men are important what

04:18:36.740 is the rest of the quote that's not that's the i brought up that's well that's the most notable

04:18:41.700 one okay but if i brought up a different quote by her and that's your most notable two different

04:18:46.420 things why are we talking about two different things and why are you accusing me well you should

04:18:49.780 have been more precise i suppose but she is equating herself to men okay she's constantly iconic okay

04:18:56.180 whatever forget the whole topic i strayed away from my original well then i'll just ask the

04:19:00.260 question then do you think we need men sure i need men okay i have a love-hate relationship with men

04:19:08.340 you have a love-hate relationship with men okay you guys also tell us what you need them for as you

04:19:13.300 go around the table to reproduce yeah what about survival do you guys agree that you every woman at this

04:19:19.620 table needs men to survive i think men can be good protectors but a lot of no i don't even i don't

04:19:25.860 even mean on an individual like your boyfriend like i'm not talking about that level i'm talking

04:19:30.980 at a societal level you do realize that all of you need you need men to survive no no no i'm not

04:19:38.740 talking about hold on i'm talking in the short term here i'm not talking about reproduction absolutely

04:19:44.100 men would need women to reproduce also i think getting rid of half of the population would be detrimental

04:19:49.220 yes okay yeah i agree yep yeah yes yes what yes what uh yeah i agree that we need men now because

04:20:00.500 yeah though i mean they're half the population like if you were to go back to the beginning of history

04:20:04.900 and for some reason men just never really existed women probably would have built up their own

04:20:09.860 infrastructure and civilization but that's not how it happened so yeah we need men to continue where where

04:20:16.100 where where where would they have done this i said if men didn't exist obviously they would

04:20:22.020 have had to do it if men didn't exist yeah they would have where could they have done this what do

04:20:27.060 you mean on on planet earth i'm saying so well there are physiological differences between men and

04:20:32.740 women you would have to concede that that's true correct well if men didn't exist the physiological

04:20:36.740 differences wouldn't matter no they would still very much matter even if men did not exist they would

04:20:42.100 still matter even if you reproduced asexually your physiological differences would still matter

04:20:46.500 that's survival of the fittest right yeah so then i guess i mean men wouldn't even factor into the

04:20:51.700 equation it would be the physiological differences between women because women are not capable of

04:20:56.020 building the kind of infrastructure that men can do simple things like heat regulation disagree

04:21:01.700 you disagree oh really you disagree yes though then give me a counter example of when women

04:21:07.060 built any civilization there is no there is no counter there is no counter why you give me one

04:21:10.740 had higher test scores yeah i mean yeah can you give me an example of when women built a civilization

04:21:16.980 i mean small civilizations yes but i'm saying if men never existed women would have had to do it

04:21:22.580 obviously that's not the way it turned out so no i can't give you an example because men

04:21:26.740 because of the physiological differences have been dominant throughout all of history

04:21:30.820 great so let's engage with this under your terms let's assume for a second that women were

04:21:35.940 asexual could reproduce on their own and still have the same physical prowess that they have to date

04:21:42.260 modern women can you explain to me how they would build this society the exact same way that men have

04:21:48.900 i mean like being slightly less physically strong maybe our houses would be made out of like not

04:21:53.540 slightly less okay maybe our houses would be made out of like straw instead of steel i don't know

04:21:58.580 like i don't think you don't know i know of course i'm not an anthropologist i'm not a historian

04:22:04.420 no you think they would like take care of all the roads and all the infrastructure and all of

04:22:08.340 these things you think they could do that easily yes if men didn't exist obviously yes yeah and what

04:22:13.780 do you think those roads would look like probably like normal roads i don't know you so you essentially

04:22:19.380 you think that men and women are interchangeable widgets and were it that men just did not exist

04:22:25.380 and women were asexual that women could basically do all of the things that men could do essentially

04:22:30.900 we're not gonna know because this is a hypothetical yeah that's i mean it's pointless like

04:22:34.740 the hypothetical is designed to test the logic so i'm testing your logic right now by asking you this

04:22:40.260 question if women could reproduce asexually do you think that essentially they would build the same

04:22:46.820 exact types of societies that we see now i don't think it would look exactly the same no i think

04:22:52.420 there would have to be different there would be workarounds to certain things but i mean like

04:22:56.980 like what kind of things what if women did it better what if we did it worse we're not gonna

04:23:01.060 know that's a great question i'm entertaining this like what would women do better i mean

04:23:05.060 i can't wait to hear like the pyramids the people who built the pyramid the people who built the

04:23:10.500 pyramids couldn't lift the heavy bricks on their own either they had to make pulleys and things to

04:23:14.500 lift them women could have invented those too right exactly yes yeah so essentially society would look

04:23:21.300 exactly the same it would just be built by people who you think are just slightly weaker so you think

04:23:26.980 that again we are interchangeable widgets it's just a little bit stronger if we were reproducing

04:23:33.620 asexually the it would be survival of the fittest so we would in terms like have bigger women being

04:23:39.620 able to pull things due to evolution here i let me get through some chat wait wait hang on hang on

04:23:45.540 dude do you know how long evolution takes so many oh yeah we're talking about civil modern civilization

04:23:55.380 has existed for oh i don't know about 500 years right when we would consider some kind of modernity

04:24:02.660 but civilization itself didn't spring up recorded civilization until about 11 000 years ago homo sapiens

04:24:08.660 came around about 350 000 years ago so that's a long long long time but assuming all things equal

04:24:17.940 women were in the exact same space that they're in right this second with the exact same physical strength

04:24:24.980 that they have right now what do you think society would look like i think it would be great

04:24:29.940 we got those muscle mommies out there oh they would just build all the roads right i think it would probably

04:24:37.380 look similar yes yeah it would look similar okay i'll just leave it there cool thank you

04:24:46.420 okay here let me read some of the chats or madison can you read thank you sticky fingers for the big

04:24:50.660 300 super chat past to present not being able to adequately annotate your opinions as a speaker in

04:24:57.700 this podcast does not infer misogyny when brian and andrew are intentionally stimulating conversation

04:25:02.420 for you to be heard this is your moment to be heard as a guest you feel to be correct that

04:25:07.060 says something yo stinky fingers thank you for the big 300 super chat you are a giga chat and a legend

04:25:16.180 thank you sir we have fb here brat definition oh living underscored donated 200

04:25:26.500 imagine being andrew's wife lmfao holy should kill me

04:25:32.820 uh they have a loving relationship rachel's great andrew's great i don't know i bet you i bet you 100 bucks

04:25:39.380 that either you're a woman who's not a wife or you're a man who doesn't have one

04:25:47.620 and if you prove me wrong i'll pay out the 100 bucks but you won't be able to pay me to prove you

04:25:52.180 wrong uh fb brat definition a child especially an annoying spoiled or impolite child usually used in the content

04:26:01.700 or irritation this seems accurate to me then yes she is very very childish annoying and not very polite

04:26:09.780 okay thank you fb man so my bad that we're finally getting to uh hold on uh they criticize a certain

04:26:15.140 kind of woman not women in general but loose you're right this podcast does make women uncomfortable

04:26:20.260 that's not the same as being misogynistic canadian jim with the hundred dollar soup chat thank you man

04:26:26.260 appreciate it uh merci beaucoup canadian jim uh are you quebecois little quebecois thank you sir

04:26:34.260 appreciate it man uh let's see and then we i read the one from fb right yeah we just did that one uh

04:26:40.900 sorry that we're for some of those soup chats i know you guys sent those in a long time ago we've

04:26:44.660 just had a lot of convo going on a lot of messages coming through so uh it is a little bit delayed here

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04:27:35.540 hashtag big big labia matter very important going around the table on this one for everybody here

04:27:41.700 dating sort of okay ask everyone to rate their looks physical looks on a scale of one to ten starting

04:27:49.620 with you go ahead um like a seven okay uh in dc i'm a 12 in california i would say i'm like a seven

04:27:58.580 or an eight well you can't go beyond a 10 so you're sure i'll be a 10 in dc you're 10 in dc and oh you

04:28:07.300 said like a california seven we got the math sign can we put up the math sign that's 12 12 12 is

04:28:15.460 greater than the amount which was proposed i meant 12 out of 12 my bad i say eight and a half wait can

04:28:22.740 you scoot your mic this way a little bit this way yeah perfect eight eight and a half eight and a half

04:28:29.140 all right eight so like six and a half a four i'm a seven eight i give myself five andrew what about you

04:28:40.020 you you handsome devil i would put myself at a four all right there we go nobody too crazy here with

04:28:47.300 you know any sort of delusion that's always good no nothing too wild uh i do want to ask a question

04:28:54.660 that i promised i think it was the conservative latina uh she sent in a stream labs donation asking

04:29:00.740 can you be sexist against men starting with you yes i would say yes but i would like to elaborate on

04:29:11.700 this okay go ahead i think um a lot of the sexism towards men comes from some sort of trauma like i

04:29:19.140 myself have like been in that boat in those shoes where it's like i hate men all of men suck and that's

04:29:24.660 because i had unresolved things i like i love men but i hate them at the same time you know that's a yikes

04:29:30.420 but okay um wait you love men but you hate them at the same time yeah i think a lot of men are losers

04:29:38.580 a lot of men are how so you mean financially no just like in general um

04:29:44.100 like if i'm is nick a loser nick is such a loser what the

04:29:48.500 fuck nick are you gonna stand for that bro what about gustavo gustavo are you a loser damn

04:29:56.420 the fuck you're a little pathetic little bitch baby loser whoa she's what did you just say about

04:30:01.380 my boy gustavo the fuck i asked him if he was that's a that's a kick out moment for you can't

04:30:06.900 insult gustavo he's the best oh i'm gonna wrestle him later and i'm gonna win what the

04:30:12.100 fuck hey yo it's rachel wilson that's on you bro i'm staying out of this one we got uh rachel

04:30:18.500 wilson andrew sandrew's uh wife in the chat maddie can you read it andrew is the best husband ever

04:30:24.340 he's extremely good to me and a very kind person he's a 10 sorry to all our haters hi brian

04:30:30.180 yo what's up rachel thank you for the uh super chat uh just wanted to pull that up there because

04:30:34.580 it was uh kind of irrelevant that was years of patriarchal brainwashing that got her to believe

04:30:39.860 that but yeah he brainwashed rachel wilson brainwashed her and by the way she has a book

04:30:46.180 which is uh did did you also force her to write the book too andrew i did but only because i knew

04:30:52.820 that i could promo and sell a bunch of copies and then buy more guns for my own selfish patriarchal

04:30:58.660 needs it's called occult feminism you can find it on amazon among other places thank you so much for

04:31:04.580 allowing me to shamelessly shill it brian of course i want to start a cult good times wait so

04:31:10.580 okay uh you have a love-hate relationship with men yeah um you said most men are losers yes what

04:31:17.380 are most women then um i think the general population i'm kind of deviating away from this

04:31:23.700 question but i think the general population a lot of people are really insecure and they project that

04:31:27.780 onto other people okay all right so i think it's on both sides uh can you be sexist towards men

04:31:34.260 yes absolutely um sexist yes misandrist no wait hold on i will i will i will clarify this i will

04:31:43.460 i will clarify this let's not dive back into that i would not like to either i if i can clarify this

04:31:48.580 without diving back into a conversation we weren't i don't even think we were we've talked about can

04:31:53.700 you be racist towards white because i was gonna i was gonna connect to that i was gonna say i think

04:31:56.740 you can be sexist to men in the same way you can be prejudiced like a white person can be prejudiced

04:32:00.500 but i don't think on a systemic level there's no like misandry what hold hold on bro what hold

04:32:06.180 yeah yeah yeah wait so so you you're saying you can be sexist yeah on like a on like an individual

04:32:11.700 prejudice level yeah you can say i hate men but it doesn't equate to any sort of real no systemic

04:32:16.740 there's no systemic so you're saying there's current oh my god bro i don't even know where to begin

04:32:21.060 with this one this shit could take three hours i hope it doesn't unwind so but i'm confused because

04:32:27.220 this is a little bit different than your stance on the racism it is different with white people

04:32:31.380 because you said no you can't be racist towards white people it's the same it's the same logic

04:32:34.580 brian you'll see as you unravel it's the same logic but i do feel differently about it i don't

04:32:38.260 i don't know if i want to get into that conversation okay so misandry you yeah do you deny that there

04:32:43.060 even is misandry um yeah on like a i know there's definitely hatred of men i think it is but it's not

04:32:51.220 on a systemic i don't i don't think it i mean yeah you can mock me but yeah that's what i think

04:32:55.860 in society they can't really be misandrist right sorry what because women don't have institutional

04:33:03.380 power they can't really be misandrist that's not the definition of misandry though so if the

04:33:07.780 definition is going to say hang on just let her hang on that's what you're going to say right well

04:33:11.780 i mean if you're if we're going by the definition of like strictly hatred of men yeah then yeah you can

04:33:15.940 hate men it says dislike of contempt for or ingrained prejudice against men yeah then you

04:33:21.380 can you can definitely believe that can't really exist it's because of why it's not in your taste buds

04:33:28.100 because of why what why is it that you actually believe though that misandry can't exist it's

04:33:34.180 because you believe that women don't have institutional power and therefore because they

04:33:39.940 don't they can't truly be misandrist only men well that's why i think patriarchist and chauvinist

04:33:46.500 right isn't that really the case yeah i mean i you're gonna have to repeat the question honestly sorry

04:33:55.460 you think and you tell me if i'm wrong that the only reason that men or women can't be misandrist

04:34:01.940 towards men is because women don't have institutional power right essentially yeah i mean if we're going

04:34:08.820 strictly on the definition it's just the same bullshit rate the anti-racist argument it's the

04:34:13.300 same exact thing that you said before right yeah because you know why it's slightly different in

04:34:18.260 the united states though makes you a minority the reason you make this argument is because it makes

04:34:22.500 you a minority that's the only reason you women yeah it is listen let me here okay i mean you're

04:34:28.020 assuming my perspective you're assuming my perspective are you a minority no i don't think

04:34:33.700 women are the minority and neither are white people and i'm a white woman i'm a majority in

04:34:37.860 both ways wait wait wait that's super confusing you're not a minority but you cannot discriminate

04:34:45.700 as a any type of collective against men only men can collectively discriminate against you i could

04:34:51.060 i could engage in discrimination against a black man um on on a racial level that would not negate

04:34:57.860 the fact that you're a minority just because you could discriminate against a black man a hispanic

04:35:01.540 could discriminate against a black man correct i'm sure yes yes so if a hispanic can discriminate

04:35:09.620 against a black man you would not say hispanic is not a minority would you no but i mean i'm not

04:35:15.300 like statistically i'm not a minority how could you not be a minority that's not what you're saying that

04:35:20.580 you're the majority but had don't have institutional power that's what you're saying yes like as a whole

04:35:26.420 women do not have more institutional power than men white women have more institutional power than a lot

04:35:31.060 of different groups how does that make you a minority though i never said anyone was a minority

04:35:36.820 i'm not how how could you not be a minority because that's not the definite minority means a minority

04:35:42.980 of the population all right let's try this a different way let's assume that we're looking at

04:35:47.700 this from an intersectional perspective you know what intersectionality is from your feminist study

04:35:52.740 classes correct i've never taken one but i can take a stab at it you would put white men

04:35:57.460 white men at the top of the oppressed everybody the else ladder right um i don't think there's

04:36:05.460 anyone above white men i wouldn't rank it on like a hierarchy but uh if we had to the hierarchy white

04:36:11.540 men would be on the top right i would put them at the top and women white women would be under that

04:36:17.620 right yes i would say so yeah wait maybe like second right number two sure yeah right so you're saying

04:36:25.540 that you're discriminated against by white men as a white woman i mean in some ways i'm sure i don't

04:36:33.060 think i think misogyny is absolutely relevant i think institutional discrimination against women in

04:36:39.140 the united states and like most developed countries is not the problem that it has been historically but

04:36:43.940 i mean there are countries where women just got the right to drive like five years ago yeah we're

04:36:48.500 talking about the united states okay yeah then and inside the united states you still consider yourself

04:36:53.700 to be underneath white men correct yeah yeah so you are oppressed by white men right i mean in a

04:37:01.700 small way sure yeah yeah right so when you say that white women or black women or any women cannot

04:37:11.060 actually be misandrist you're just saying that because you consider white men to be above everybody

04:37:16.180 in the hierarchy yeah yeah got it so next time cool just say that now okay diving diving into that

04:37:25.540 are there more white women or white men in the united states i think women i think women i think women

04:37:32.100 why is it how come they don't have the institutional power even though it's not a number it's not a numbers

04:37:36.900 game it's it's not an it's that's not i mean that's just not how institutional power works really so

04:37:42.740 then a minority could hold institutional power and lord it over everybody else yeah on we've already

04:37:48.180 gone into the discussion of scale wait i just wanted to make sure that i have this clear a minority could

04:37:52.980 hold institutional power and lord it over everybody else even in a place where they're not the majority

04:37:58.100 correct sure like detroit sure yeah okay that's all i wanted to say thank you cool i'm so confused by a

04:38:08.740 a lot of things here because you're saying that so you're saying women don't have institutional or

04:38:14.580 systemic power no i'm not saying they don't have any i'm saying there's definitely to men yes as

04:38:19.460 compared to men well then how do you reconcile so i already made this argument before in the higher

04:38:25.620 education system every single university has a women's study a feminist study program which which

04:38:32.420 perpetuates the feminist ideology so and not just in the university have you ever taken a feminist

04:38:39.140 studies class hold on hold on not just in the university system but in corporations in media in

04:38:45.540 government feminism is the status quo i mean i think that's a reaction to the historical discrimination

04:38:54.420 against women it's it's not elevating them above men it's elevating them to their level

04:38:58.260 but it's the same thing as like we're talking about policies power who holds the power men and

04:39:04.660 i think that feminists no absolutely not i mean i know that you think that but i disagree but okay so

04:39:09.940 if men hold all the power then i didn't say they hold all the power i'm saying that women cannot

04:39:17.140 like on a broad level discrimin like there is no institutional discrimination against men by women

04:39:23.940 it sounds like you're trying to say it's just kind of like a man's world it favors basically i mean

04:39:29.060 i wouldn't say i'm like subjected to any sort of like

04:39:34.260 you know discrimination on a personal level but as a whole men do hold more institutional

04:39:40.900 power than women i mean look at our politicians we have plenty of women but that's we've never

04:39:44.500 had a female president i mean that's kind of surface apex fallacy

04:39:47.860 wait a second hang on all right it's an apex fallacy sure um wait a second there's more women

04:39:54.580 in the voting pool than there are men we don't have a female president isn't that on you wait

04:40:00.340 hold on you're saying women just got the right to vote not like what year did what year did women

04:40:05.620 get the right to vote i don't have that knowledge i think it was the 1900s my understanding is

04:40:10.020 they're currently there are no women alive in the united states who never had the right to vote

04:40:15.380 but we do have our mothers i'm pretty sure my math checks out telling us to utilize this right

04:40:22.260 what's that i said we have our mothers and our grandmothers telling us to utilize this right

04:40:27.460 i mean but also if your mom and grandmother could vote yeah i'm saying that they are telling

04:40:34.420 what i'm my age to utilize the right i'm what's your argument like my mother and my grandmother

04:40:41.380 like you should vote that's what i'm saying cool i guess i'm saying that we have like the pressure

04:40:47.300 from our elders but again all these universities with their their hundred million dollar endowments

04:40:56.420 and these universities are steeped in feminist ideology what effect is that having on massive

04:41:01.620 what effect is like holy like materially not like men are sad because of it i mean like

04:41:08.260 what actual real effects that are sustained and will last throughout history what effect is that having

04:41:15.300 well the biggest effect is the reproduction crisis which has happened as a direct result of women's

04:41:20.740 liberation and especially the sexual revolution which has taken responsibility off of women to the

04:41:25.780 point where 16 year old women don't know that a pnv leads to babies what's happened also is that you

04:41:33.380 have seen as a result of this crazy-ass sexual revolution abortion skyrocket you've seen how

04:41:39.540 was abortion and effect skyrocket you've seen women's liberation lead all ends lead to a reproductive

04:41:46.100 crisis inside of the nation how is the reproductive crisis in effect only for men how is that something

04:41:52.580 that only affects men it's not something that only affects men that's what i was asking what's what's

04:41:57.540 a an effect of feminist studies classes a real material effect on men's lives that only affects men

04:42:05.060 and is significant and can sustain into the future how is it negatively impacting the draft the draft would

04:42:11.140 be something i could point to immediately the draft is not a result of feminist studies classes the draft

04:42:16.100 existed long before feminist studies do you want the answer or not well you're wrong your answer is

04:42:20.980 incorrect how do you know i haven't explained my answer fem feminist studies classes existed after

04:42:27.220 the draft so you can't say that's a result of so what they have not addressed the draft as they have

04:42:32.260 addressed women's liberation how many why is it so still to this day hey stop stop let me explain why is

04:42:40.900 it still to this day that when it comes to the draft women can avoid it men cannot well you're the one

04:42:46.820 saying that women are just physiologically different do you think we could adequately defend ourselves

04:42:51.140 in war no which is why i don't think you should have equal rights to win okay i mean if you don't

04:42:57.460 think women should have equal rights to men then we can't really engage on a why can't we engage on it

04:43:02.500 you don't think i should have equal rights to you how am i why do it why and why is there a moral imperative

04:43:07.140 that you must that i must have equal rights or that i must engage with you that you must have equal rights

04:43:11.940 first of all let's start with this let's start with this all rights are up for debate my position is

04:43:16.260 that rights do not exist they're social construction a product of the mind absolutely i agree with you

04:43:24.340 on that good great you agree with me why is there a moral imperative that you have equal rights to men

04:43:29.460 who defend you while you sleep there is what were you in there is none what draft have you been in

04:43:35.540 how are you protecting me in my daily life what have you you individually done well let's assume

04:43:42.260 that i've individually done nothing that it would have no merit in the argument whatsoever what about

04:43:46.580 women who choose to enlist in the military despite not being in the i just think we should move on to a

04:43:50.980 different topic we're not getting it i'm sure that i'm sure that you do i'm sure that you do back to

04:43:56.180 the moral thing there is no moral imperative there i would agree with you that rights do not exist

04:44:00.340 that's something we agree upon as a society there's no inherent like moral imperative that

04:44:05.220 everyone has equal rights there's no imperative that any race has equal rights that's something

04:44:09.380 we debate on and we decide and i am of the opinion that it is unfair it's unjust

04:44:16.900 for women to not have equal rights you can disagree yeah but so what who cares if you if you think that

04:44:23.780 what makes it a moral what makes it a moral imperative i've already said there is no there is

04:44:27.140 no moral imperative there's nothing there is no moral imperative so we just do it off of consensus

04:44:31.300 sorry we just do it off of consensus um i mean yeah essentially it's like a political process

04:44:40.500 i would disagree i'm i believe in democracy but do you so you think we should do things off of a

04:44:46.100 consensus yeah that's what i said so what if the democratic order arbitrarily lowered the age of

04:44:51.780 consent to 16 or 15 or 14 i think there are states where it's 16 i don't know but let's assume that it

04:44:57.620 was younger do you think that we should adhere to the democracy because that's what the consensus

04:45:01.940 is if you're yeah if you believe in democracy yes and i mean in like japan what if it was 10

04:45:07.700 should we should we do that i would not i would vote against that and i might even move out yeah

04:45:11.540 why what's the moral imperative you just said there's no moral imperative and we should follow

04:45:15.380 what the consensus says so if the consensus said i said there's no more imperative why is it

04:45:19.780 it that that it shouldn't be 10. well because i think having this can i say because i feel like

04:45:25.620 this is a topic that might rip like go into okay yeah yeah fair enough okay let's just assume let's

04:45:31.460 assume it the other way let's just assume in a different way okay why is it then that if the

04:45:37.300 consensus was that you could have sex with a dead body jesus christ no no this is dos fine why do you

04:45:44.980 why do you hate the consensus so much why is it no stop don't interrupt don't interrupt don't

04:45:49.940 interrupt she can speak for herself if that was the consensus why shouldn't we do it

04:45:58.260 i would just disagree personally if that's the consensus that's it if no you would just disagree

04:46:02.740 there's no moral imperative to not screw a dead body because we need to honor there is a moral

04:46:06.980 imperative to not do that i will take a stand on what is it i don't know it's wrong it is you don't

04:46:11.700 know you don't know what the moral imperative is you honor the dead that's the moral what's that

04:46:17.940 you honor the dead but why is that a moral imperative you're supposed to have honor for

04:46:22.820 the dead you're not why is that a moral imperative i mean philosophy everyone has different morals

04:46:28.740 there is no universal moral imperative there's no universal morals and what's wrong with people

04:46:32.580 screwing dead bodies lady it's against my morals i don't know so just you're arbitrary there's no

04:46:37.700 moral moral morals i want to make sure i get this right yeah if a society which is a democracy

04:46:45.540 votes that people are allowed to screw dead bodies you have nothing other than i personally disagree

04:46:50.980 with that i would justify why they shouldn't i would i would move i think let her answer okay i think i

04:46:55.940 would leave the country i don't think i would like to live in a country yeah i know i know but answer

04:46:59.620 my question you have nothing other than me i my personal opinion this is bad right that that's

04:47:07.620 it that's your entire moral justification so all of human morality for you comes from your brain

04:47:14.020 and that's it i mean my personal morality does and then we all collectively what's the moral imperative

04:47:20.260 why they shouldn't do that i genuinely have never thought about necrophilia i'm sorry that you love

04:47:25.940 thinking about it but yeah i don't know the guy goes out the guy goes out in another country

04:47:30.980 and he digs up grandma and he bangs grandma's corpse can you give me a more argument for why that's wrong

04:47:36.740 i i would no honestly i just know it's wrong i mean unreal you you progressive suck so bad you

04:47:45.380 how is that are you are you pro necrophilia are you you don't i have moral justification i have

04:47:52.260 epistemological grounding i okay why i would be against something like that you just got done saying

04:47:58.820 to me literally you have no moral justification for why someone shouldn't dig up grandma and screw

04:48:03.460 them that's literally what you just said it's wrong that's my moral justification what's your

04:48:08.420 moral justification it's wrong i personally believe it's wrong based on my own morals i mean

04:48:13.940 it's right so you are the arbiter of all of human morality no that's what democracy is there's no

04:48:19.620 epistemic justification it's circular it's wrong because it's wrong because it's wrong because it's

04:48:23.620 wrong because it's wrong yeah and you could do the exact because i mean i'm believing you're a christian and

04:48:28.020 you that's your oh yes would you like to get into epistemological foundations for i would love to

04:48:33.540 but i don't think anyone else i don't think anyone else is far better than anything that you just said

04:48:38.420 you just said you could dig up grandma banger you're the one that said that i would rather not

04:48:44.900 talking about digging up grandmas and banging them because i'm personally banger i'm not i if we're

04:48:50.980 gonna accuse anyone of being a grandma banger i would say let's accuse milf a gilf my grandma was beautiful

04:48:56.980 but please don't do that to her awkward it's bad because it's bad the good is the good and the

04:49:02.740 bad yeah god is real because god is real all of it's arbitrated absolutely life is arbitrary i don't

04:49:08.420 know what you want me to say i think philosophy and morality you know what i have i have actually

04:49:13.620 have a proposal here andrew's going to be coming in studio next week maybe you guys have like i don't

04:49:20.500 know if you're down andrew you guys should just do a one-on-one debate why she would lose in 15

04:49:25.620 minutes it was 15 minutes sounds like you're scared oh are you down oh no happily you want to

04:49:33.460 go in studio have a 1v1 debate where nobody are we going to be able to be equally prepared

04:49:37.860 are we going to you you can grow me back sure are we going to be it'll be well moderated there it'll

04:49:43.460 be uh yeah he's very nice he's a sweetheart in person he's a sweetheart right andrew sure there

04:49:51.060 you go sure let me let me check my work schedule i'll think about it though okay think about it

04:49:54.580 but i think it would just also for the sake of tonight yeah i would say your chances of showing

04:49:58.660 up or uh zero percent you should probably come up with some type some type of epistemology before

04:50:06.340 you come into a debate with me because if you can't answer why you shouldn't bang a dead body

04:50:10.340 other than oh it just gives me the ick i'll start reading something i have a problem in this debate

04:50:14.260 what do you have like any girlfriends what if we like we we make it equal like it's a 3v1 so like

04:50:20.900 three you and three girlfriends or get your bring your professor oh yeah bring your professor oh yeah

04:50:26.660 no bring your fucking professor your bring the professor major professor bring him on i'm not an

04:50:32.020 arts major i can't wait we'll we'll talk we'll talk yeah let's let's talk about you know there's gonna be

04:50:38.980 it's gonna be a there's gonna be a bunch of uh okay anyways let me do a couple chats i got some more

04:50:44.100 questions we have big sass energy maddie can you read this por favor racism and misandry do not

04:50:50.580 start at the top systemic level systemic is a totally separate word at an individual level all these

04:50:56.180 things exist against all types of people lol at college at a college education lol thank you big sass

04:51:02.660 energy appreciate it we have david trish oh scott okay read it because of feminism is why the courts

04:51:11.540 rule in favor to women to have full custody of the children and the woman gets half of what

04:51:16.420 the man has worked to obtain also women are not at the front lines thank you scott for your very

04:51:22.820 generous thank you everyone for your very generous uh tts messages andrew i met luke and his girlfriend

04:51:28.980 at the time in ensignata in a jacuzzi he told me he was a high school basketball coach but knew him he

04:51:34.820 was really nice go feminization if balanced go yellow who's luke i'm not sure what luke no no

04:51:44.180 feminization maddie can you read this just me andrew i'll have you know i'm happily married to my wife

04:51:50.420 and her boyfriend you be looking greasy lately by the way does your shower not work are you eating

04:51:55.220 don't mute yourself andrew hang on pull up chat back up pull that chat back up i'm trying to get it here

04:52:00.820 i'm gonna do a split on it andrew i'll have you know i'm happily married to my wife and her boyfriend

04:52:07.460 change the split oh i'll take the l on the last half of that chat that's fair i'll take the l in

04:52:12.820 the last half but the first beautiful loved it great job you be looking greasy lately by the way does your

04:52:19.460 shower not work are you eating too much pizza actually we got some pizza in the studio and if

04:52:23.460 you guys want we'll do a little after show a little pizza sesh if you guys are down uh let's see here we

04:52:28.420 have livin uh on stream on stream andrew wanting wait can you read this one andrew

04:52:36.420 yeah it says uh dear andrew i happen to have sex with men that's what it says

04:52:43.060 can i read it okay sure andrew wanting to plow ancient grandma's coat for how bad his wife is

04:52:49.860 you should see what they were just saying about how gingers have no souls god damn that was crazy in

04:52:54.260 chat they were saying that all right um uh about wait kyle kelsey was there a super chat from kyle kelsey

04:53:07.700 uh the the read so it's just i don't know if you're you met the threshold read answer is 100 and up

04:53:13.140 tts is 200 and up that's through stream labs only for the tts we'll do super chats on youtube

04:53:18.180 uh read 100 and up um it might have not just hit the threshold but uh yeah thank you man also like

04:53:24.260 the video while you're at it a couple questions we talked about um this is somewhat related uh you

04:53:30.500 mentioned something about women in uh you know joining the volunteer army um this is something

04:53:37.780 that's come up for are men physically stronger than women starting with you with me yes okay what about

04:53:46.900 you yes on average yes yes yeah yes yes yeah okay all right nothing there all right and uh we went

04:53:58.100 around on the sexism thing i did actually have one thought on this uh so ah fuck do we really go back

04:54:05.780 here fuck it let's let's do something dating related yeah we'll come back to this shit though we'll

04:54:12.260 come back we'll come back for sure oh my god oh my god sorry okay so yeah well anyways do you think

04:54:23.380 men are insecure for caring about a woman's body count starting with you um

04:54:31.460 are insecure for caring yeah do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count um

04:54:36.180 um i think it would stem from insecurity but everyone's like allowed to have their own

04:54:42.500 preferences it would stem from insecurity but okay i think that's subjective um because if you have

04:54:50.660 someone that's just going to sleep with anyone due to attraction there's no saying like are they going

04:54:55.060 to do that if they're in a relationship with you if their body count is high okay so you don't think

04:54:59.780 it's insecure and also i think it's subjective i think it can be insecure it's like really depends

04:55:05.380 let me just tack on another question to this does body count matter should body count matter i don't

04:55:11.220 know if you want to add on to that i think that's also subjective like for me i wouldn't really want

04:55:15.380 to go for a guy who has a high body count because that just shows me he only values if someone is

04:55:19.780 attractive and if he's just like coming to me and trying to sleep with me then he's not actually

04:55:23.940 valuing me as a person and he doesn't want to get to know me so then the gal the gal next to

04:55:28.420 you who said that it was a state of insecurity that would not apply to you um i think that if

04:55:35.300 as long as the person is safe and clean um and you know doesn't put you at any level of risk um and

04:55:45.940 you understand your dynamic of their relationship it doesn't matter i am so so she's not she's not

04:55:52.420 being insecure when she says that she would not want to have a man with a high body count right

04:55:57.060 um i think that insecurity shouldn't be a negative word um there's plenty of things i'm insecure

04:56:04.580 about that i don't think are inherently negative i personally would definitely be insecure if a guy

04:56:09.460 had slept with 80 people um but it doesn't mean that i wouldn't date them or it doesn't mean that

04:56:14.100 it matters to me i think it's more okay so then that means that she's insecure um you know i i can't

04:56:21.460 speak for her from my perspective i think it comes from a place of insecurity and worrying about um

04:56:27.940 that person only valuing you for appearance but i don't think that in this case insecurity is a

04:56:32.340 negative connotation if i like okay so then that would be she's insecure right how am i getting this

04:56:38.900 wrong if i get with someone and they have a high body count there definitely needs to be a discussion

04:56:42.660 where they show me or like tell me hey yeah temptation is there but like it's my decision to reject

04:56:48.260 that and if we have that discussion and they're mature enough to have that discussion then fine

04:56:52.500 but right off the bat if someone is just trying to sleep with me then that just tells me that they

04:56:56.580 value attraction over anything here let's get everybody's answers go ahead which question both

04:57:01.540 okay um i do think body count matters but i don't think it stems from insecurity necessarily i think it

04:57:06.180 just just shows that they care i think it's a form of insecurity but like at the same time i think

04:57:13.140 that the more people that you sleep with the more energies that you can like attract to yourself

04:57:17.380 so i'm indifferent on that one so would you say that the gal who said that she would not want

04:57:23.540 to sleep with a man with a high body count is coming from a place of insecurity then

04:57:30.420 it also comes a place from a place of danger where it's like i'm

04:57:33.060 oh hang on into the mics it comes from a place of danger where i'm not

04:57:37.860 not you as well would you say that she's coming from a place of insecurity because she just said she

04:57:44.100 wouldn't want to date a man with a high body count i think it's a little bit different for women so

04:57:48.180 no i'm gonna say it's not because men are notoriously known for sleeping with a lot of women

04:57:54.740 so i don't think that it's insecurity yeah you guys get praised for how many women you can like

04:57:59.460 pull and that's because it's hard for men to do that it's easy for y'all to do that i mean yeah but

04:58:05.060 i'm saying that's my justification of why i don't think it's insecurity for a woman yes for men yeah

04:58:12.580 okay i think it depends it could come from a bunch of different emotions like one of them could be

04:58:17.620 insecurity or it could be like a religious thing if you're waiting for marriage what if they're not

04:58:21.540 religious um whether they're secular i still they don't want to wife up the time town bicycle then i

04:58:26.980 think it could be insecurity or it could it could just be moral i mean like we all know i have morals

04:58:32.100 outside of religion so it could be morals it could let's say he's immoral he's immoral then yeah he

04:58:36.900 doesn't have any morals he just doesn't want to get with a promiscuous woman yes i think that would

04:58:40.740 be a sexual insecurity it would be sexual insecurity yes so would it be sexually insecurity for a man to

04:58:46.740 not want to date a woman who fucked a guy yesterday like date her immediately because i feel like if you

04:58:52.820 just have sex with her immediately date her that's not dating i mean if you won't have sex with someone

04:58:56.900 because they had sex with someone like you won't have casual sex with someone because they

04:59:00.020 had sex with someone else yesterday that is valid because you there's no way to know their std

04:59:04.980 status let's even okay well let's say they went and got an std check uh literally right away you

04:59:11.300 had the results it wouldn't be valid because it takes like two weeks so like let's say someone had

04:59:16.100 sex two weeks ago and they have a clean clean bill of health but there's a magical wand okay okay well we

04:59:21.860 can say that about anything no no it's just let's say she she went she had sex five hours ago but she

04:59:27.940 comes to you and presents you with a clean bill of health then yeah i would say it probably and

04:59:32.260 like you said that's insecurity i don't think it's necessarily i think everyone can be insecure in

04:59:37.940 that way like i don't want to be compared to the last person you had sex with oh then it would be

04:59:41.780 insecurity i think it's subjective too if it's insecure or if it's like controlling yeah it could

04:59:46.980 also be controlling it could be it could be misogyny it could be a variety how is it how would

04:59:51.540 so i just want to make sure i get this right you have you have two kids and your son he's 16 years

04:59:57.460 old and he comes to you and he's like hey mom listen i really like this girl she just

05:00:03.220 fucked a guy 10 hours ago but she did give me a clean bill of health so i'd like to go have sex with

05:00:10.740 her would you say ah that's fine because you don't want to be insecure i think it's weird to talk to your

05:00:16.740 mom about that yeah no i derailed i would not i would not but let her know i wouldn't call my son

05:00:23.540 no i wouldn't say it would be insecure not to do that i would say make your own decision no

05:00:29.060 no i wouldn't okay so so but but that would be coming from a place of insecurity from your son

05:00:33.540 right well i thought he wanted to have sex with her in this particular case the guy wanted to have

05:00:39.060 sex with her until he found out that she had sex with another person just a few hours prior you said

05:00:44.660 that was insecurity i wouldn't tell him that if it was my son but i think it definitely could be

05:00:49.620 coming from a place of insecurity yeah every person is your son's just being insecure that little

05:00:53.860 bastard maybe i don't know him i think everyone's most secure thing you could do if you really wanted

05:01:00.100 to be secure in your masculinity is go rail that fucking broad that you wanted to rail who just

05:01:05.060 fucked another guy 10 hours ago that would be the most secure thing he could do i think everyone has

05:01:10.260 different boundaries as well in terms of like choosing a sexual partner okay so do you agree

05:01:15.380 it's wrong in the in the opposite direction um would it be okay for me to deny having sex with a man

05:01:21.300 knowing that he has another sexual partner currently yes yeah so then that's just your perspective of

05:01:27.060 insecurity but for me i only know that's not insecure no but i i would only not have sex that's not

05:01:33.860 insecurity i would only be wary of a body count based off of my own personal insecurity of

05:01:39.860 not fulfilling the type of intimacy that they are seeking whether they've had a lot of sexual

05:01:45.620 partners due to you know a sex addiction or due to corn consumption or anything else it would be

05:01:53.220 coming from a place of insecurity for me personally but i'm not saying for everyone but for me personally

05:01:58.020 all of that as being true and i'll ask you the same exact question your 16 year old son comes to you

05:02:04.820 let's say he's 18 and he says i really like this girl and i really wanted to rail her but

05:02:09.620 you know mom she fucked another dude 10 hours ago and that just kind of grosses me out that would

05:02:17.780 be him being insecure um i would say if you really like her and you're willing to have an open

05:02:24.020 conversation with her about exclusivity or not continuing that um then you should but if it's something that

05:02:32.020 makes you feel insecure which i think if there's no risk um no risk of stds no risk of anything it's

05:02:39.940 just gross i mean to me to me it's gross but i think it comes from a place of insecurity what's

05:02:45.700 what's the difference between having sex yesterday and me having sex two years ago so then so then

05:02:50.260 what if what if i what if someone had a body count of 80 but hasn't had sex okay fine does that make

05:02:55.540 them more security so then backing that up wait can i sorry can i offer my question

05:03:01.060 well you just answered no no no i'm offering a question if i say hypothetically there's a person

05:03:05.620 who has a body count of 80 people but they've been abstinent for five years are they less gross than

05:03:11.140 a girl who has a body count of two who had sex yesterday yes because they've been abstinent for

05:03:16.820 10 years even though their body counts 80 that's still less gross yeah than fucking a chick who might

05:03:21.140 still have another man's jizz in her now well why are you assuming she's having unsafe sex going

05:03:25.940 back in other directions then from your from your particular logic let's just go over your particular

05:03:31.460 logic here if that is a place of insecurity then wouldn't it not be true that the most secure thing

05:03:37.060 you could do if you like this girl and he really wanted to rail her and she really wanted to have sex

05:03:40.820 with him and he just said i was a little bit grossed out by it the most secure thing he could do would

05:03:45.140 be to have sex with her i think the original argument was just asking if caring about body count was

05:03:50.900 insecurity which i agree i know what the original argument was can you answer my question yeah

05:03:54.420 i'm answering i don't think that it's a more secure thing because it's a completely different

05:03:58.100 conversation as someone having sex you know a couple hours ago is a different conversation

05:04:02.580 it's gross in different ways yeah yeah it's gross in different concept so i i'm not saying that that

05:04:08.020 is insecurity i'm saying the original argument stems from insecurity to some level um but i think

05:04:13.300 it's totally valid and i don't think it's insecure to choose to not have sex with someone who was just

05:04:18.980 sexually active um but i think for some people it could be an insecurity thing for me it would be

05:04:24.500 a hygiene okay so now we get into nuance so let me ask you this why would it be insecure if this is

05:04:30.500 the case and they have this preference and they say no you say that's not insecurity and it's not the

05:04:35.460 most secure thing you could do to then have sex with that person why would it be insecure if they

05:04:39.860 extrapolated that out over more time um i believe the insecurity comes in the format of caring about

05:04:50.340 the actual amount quantity of sexual partners and the only reason i have that perspective is because

05:04:54.980 for me personally it comes from a place of insecurity oh okay yeah i i know that you keep saying that

05:05:00.500 yeah but what's i still i still haven't actually i still haven't gotten actually an answer to this

05:05:05.300 first you said it was insecure of him not to do this thing from 10 hours ago they had a clean bill

05:05:10.020 of health then you said no wait it's not the most secure thing they could do no i i didn't say it was

05:05:17.780 i didn't go ahead telling me i said something that i didn't say and if you replayed any of what i had just

05:05:23.540 said i did not say that i said okay well let me just ask you yes or no i'm not going to give you

05:05:28.660 any loaded questions i promise none of them will be yes or no yes or no is it insecure

05:05:35.780 if your son came to you he's 18 years old he said hey this woman i really really really like

05:05:43.540 really like her she really likes me had sex 10 hours ago and that grosses me out so i don't want

05:05:48.980 to have sex with her i would say that's no problem and you should wait um and that's not my question is

05:05:56.100 it insecure not if no not if it's a hygiene issue no okay great well okay

05:06:05.380 hygiene issue she has a clean bill of health she has a clean i told you it's a baked in

05:06:10.820 she has a clean bill of health there's no hygiene issue what if her ph just is gross hang on he's

05:06:18.260 he's just grossed out he's just grossed the fuck out by it is that insecure that he doesn't want

05:06:24.340 to hump a chick who's full of another man's jizz totally fine i think this also dives into having

05:06:29.540 standards no i think she needs to answer the question answer my question is it insecure of

05:06:35.220 him to not want to do that i already answered your question i said no it's not insecure of him yeah

05:06:40.420 but you said because of a hygienic issue i'm saying there's no hygiene issue present these these

05:06:45.620 conversations go through a plethora of different components did he have sex 10 hours ago that's

05:06:51.860 fucking disgusting if he didn't if he didn't have sex 10 hours ago then it is not coming from

05:06:58.180 insecurity but if he had sex yesterday and he's judging her for having sex yesterday it does come

05:07:03.060 from a place of insecurity does that make sense so then if he's chased and she's not chased and he

05:07:08.180 doesn't want to have sex with her over a five-year plan wouldn't that be the same exact logic applied

05:07:13.620 and he's not being insecure i have no idea what you just said i know you don't but i'll try it again

05:07:20.740 assume that this is extrapolated over five years and he has chastity and she does not have chastity

05:07:27.300 and he finds out she's slept with 60 men how does the same logic not apply here for his preference

05:07:35.140 um i think it is a different scenario

05:07:37.860 yes well but it's the same logic applied to the scenario okay so hypothetically

05:07:49.540 as i said earlier you said it would be better if someone had been abstinent for five years but

05:07:54.580 had a body count of 80 versus i didn't say anything about better i was testing your logic you weren't

05:07:58.580 testing mine okay anyways thank you so much had a great night wait we got more questions

05:08:07.860 we've got more questions here okay body count so did we go all the way around on body count

05:08:12.660 no you answered right i don't remember i think you answered correct you're too far away from the

05:08:18.420 mic yes it does matter it might be helpful if you scoot your chair into the table but okay what's your

05:08:22.500 answer um yeah it does matter wait you never you never revealed by the way you are yes a virgin

05:08:27.140 and i'm waiting for marriage okay look at that oh look at that kill of cereal cereal donated two hundred

05:08:34.820 dollars a woman insecure for having a high body count while saying a guy is insecure for caring about it

05:08:42.020 what reason does woman have for jeopardizing her self-worth by whoring out to live out of her means

05:08:49.860 anybody want to buy on that i have a question afterwards

05:08:52.260 anybody

05:09:00.020 bueller bueller

05:09:05.780 sorry kill of cereal i don't know they don't get it um okay nobody wants to buy it what women insecure

05:09:12.500 for having a high body count while saying a guy's insecure for caring about it what reason does women

05:09:16.100 have for jeopardizing okay um some of you said body count doesn't matter shouldn't matter whatever uh

05:09:22.980 what's your body count starting with you go ahead um under 10 under 10. i can count it on one hand

05:09:30.740 five clarify mine includes women as well includes women do you want to give the number or no under

05:09:39.620 10. not something i'm comfortable sharing to the internet rule number 76 no excuses play with the champion

05:09:48.020 say what you want under 15. under 50. under 50. under 50 excuse whoa 15. oh my god i'm deaf okay

05:09:57.780 what what what about you one wait really yeah

05:10:07.300 wasn't it good it didn't have fire it didn't happen one time but my though the count would be one was that

05:10:14.660 your 1.5 year relationship yeah okay wait so you lost your virginity at like 21. yeah oh late bloomer yeah

05:10:24.020 okay there you go hey it's fine late bloomers yeah uh okay all right why uh just curious why did it uh

05:10:32.180 were you waiting for the right guy yeah exactly maybe i don't know right woman no she's not interested

05:10:38.420 in casual sex like right woman it was the right guy it was a guy yeah guy okay um uh you're not

05:10:44.740 interested in casual sex did you want to wait until you were in love or did you just want the right guy

05:10:50.180 yeah just the right guy i don't think it fact like love didn't really factor into it as in terms of like

05:10:54.820 why wait but like just not an interest in like poking up when you did find that right guy like

05:11:01.940 how long into the like how long into knowing him until you guys had carnal knowledge um a couple months

05:11:09.540 i think couple months yeah okay was he also virgin or no no no okay all right uh what about you um girls

05:11:18.420 four uh guy one yeah we'll do both why not how many how many ladies have you i feel like you got

05:11:24.260 riz you like be just smashing all the all the birds the ladies the bull the ladies oh you're just

05:11:32.180 into the mic though tell us tell us about all the riz adventures adventures yeah you just been

05:11:37.460 dude you went you ran through the girls right you ran through them with your riz with your shades

05:11:44.020 you're just rizzing them up sunglasses indoors sunglasses at night doesn't matter the riz god

05:11:49.380 the riz king they give them the small day right yeah bro be honest wait question just like between

05:11:56.260 like between boys right like innies or outies wait what innies or outies what do you prefer

05:12:02.260 innies innies or outies what do you prefer oh my gosh innies or outies what do you prefer

05:12:06.420 i mean it was kind of new so new yeah what do you mean new what are you talking about are we talking

05:12:12.420 about p and v no what do you you have a penis you have a penis you have a penis no you have a penis

05:12:18.660 no okay cool uh wait but labia you have a preference for innies or outies you know like women like

05:12:25.700 straight women you all have preferences for penis size right oh like you guys sometimes you want a

05:12:30.260 big peen medium peen i would never typically you don't want to mess with a small peen wow racist

05:12:36.020 personality first that's racist yeah personality first personality first yeah small peen losers i don't

05:12:42.100 fuck with him yikes you're gonna get you're gonna get some comments from that for that one wait so

05:12:47.460 what do you prefer well right now i guess you know you know no back back with the with the ladies

05:12:54.100 um you didn't have a preference like bottom top like no labia preference no like do you like a big

05:12:59.220 vagina do you like i don't have a pussy i don't have a preference like large labia do you like you

05:13:04.980 you like when it's hammy you know i don't really have a preference no preference you didn't care no

05:13:09.460 i didn't care all right you should pay attention to that probably okay what about you oh wait zero wait

05:13:16.740 oh yeah zero body count are you still i'm in a relationship all right they know what it is they

05:13:24.340 know what it is if you know what it is really you don't you you don't like small peens that's racist

05:13:32.020 dog she's also pro slut she said i'm pro slut oh my god damn that's just up man r.i.p's in the chat

05:13:40.340 for the boys okay we have stochastic decay here hey brian world's word salad girl plays the victim

05:13:46.100 card whenever there's pushback with a brat props to the other panelists for not being brats and not

05:13:50.500 pouting i'll show anyway autistic girl has 12 10 glasses bass is too also hi gustavo i apologize

05:13:57.700 it's just my face i'm not trying to pout and i'm just really tired i think i just look like this i

05:14:02.740 swear wait wait wait i'm i'm rbf contest go into look into this mic right here that's a camera that's not

05:14:11.940 rbf that's just like scary i just i do have rbs and i apologize i'm not at all trying to be bratty i

05:14:19.460 i also don't think i'm i'm really trying to play the victim card i'm just being a devil's advocate

05:14:24.900 the same way you are yeah she's great that was pretty demonic that i'll agree with that that was

05:14:29.780 tough that was some that was tough did you that was but at least you're not a brat apparently i hate

05:14:34.340 brats i know um what about me though i love you okay good what about me though i love you too i'm

05:14:40.020 what do we do daddy i'm what do we daddy okay did you um did you see my viral video on times

05:14:47.380 square no it's my turf you know that one what you're you've got like a fetish or this is this is for um

05:14:55.940 my my big dog my british big dog you know i don't think there's therapists for that he taught me

05:15:04.500 everything i know um no so like i went viral in times square for like barking and it was really

05:15:08.820 funny thank you that's beautiful cool and then i i was with matthew silver he was screaming at me i

05:15:15.140 made nick a promise to not go talk about this route but because of this panel i just i have to

05:15:22.580 i got to talk about this um and this is dating related okay uh would you object

05:15:30.020 to a man not wanting to date a trans woman starting with

05:15:38.900 you oh boy would i would like would i not date him because of that no would you object to a man

05:15:45.380 not wanting to like gustavo here if he was like yeah i don't think i would date a trans woman would

05:15:50.340 you object to that no as long as he's not like being transphobic unnecessarily and like being unkind

05:15:56.500 to trans women if that's just like a personal preference i think that's that's fine well the

05:16:01.460 the personal preference is he wouldn't he's not being transphobic or rude or mean in any way but he

05:16:05.860 he would say essentially i wouldn't date them because they're trans i mean i think it probably

05:16:12.260 comes from a like a place of just like bias but i mean i can't say that someone needs to date someone

05:16:18.820 that they're not comfortable dating like okay i think yeah if they're completely post-op and like

05:16:24.500 completely indistinguishable maybe i would like is that possible i don't think that's possible to

05:16:30.420 be 100 percent indistinguishable and they still were really opposed to it maybe i would question it

05:16:35.060 but now in general now well let's just let's assume that's the case they've gotten surgery and

05:16:40.260 they're taking hormones they've gotten breast implants and wigs or i don't know uh they got the

05:16:47.540 the bottom surgery and then the man still doesn't want to date them i mean i still can't really

05:16:54.020 object to like someone's personal dating preferences you know going around the table on this um there

05:16:58.580 will be plenty of men who want to so it's okay if some men are uninterested in that there's so many

05:17:04.260 factors that go into dating preferences you know maybe their goal is biological children and you can't

05:17:10.260 do that with um a transgender individual i think those type of dating preferences as long as they're

05:17:15.380 non-discriminatory well wouldn't it be this it would be just yeah but if discriminatory not in a

05:17:23.460 bigotry sense it's not in a hateful way it's just a preference i think it's weird to tell other people

05:17:29.380 what to do with their bodies and what they subject themselves to so i agree with loose with what she

05:17:33.860 said no preferences just don't be rude would that include um to the uh to the redhead i'm sorry i'm

05:17:41.860 terrible with names please don't hold that against me i'm holding it gertrude her name's gertrude

05:17:47.300 i'm sorry call her i'm sorry gertrude would that include unaliving you don't care if people

05:17:52.740 unalive themselves because it's their body what okay wait good night hold on sit down sit down

05:18:00.260 this is actually a topic that i don't really feel comfortable talking about i lost someone

05:18:04.660 too you can convince her nick you got it unaliving you can you can convince her get her a slice of pizza

05:18:09.540 get her a slice of pizza a c4 and some um some uh uh tater tots okay she'll be fine uh what about

05:18:18.580 your answer what about your answer we're talking about 100 straight i didn't i honestly didn't even

05:18:23.700 feel like that was a very invasive question i i understand that you feel it's not invasive but

05:18:28.500 i personally lost we're moving on we're moving on answer the question okay no that's just no i wouldn't

05:18:34.660 date a trans man damn that's crazy madison does that make me you're a bigot then i'm a bigot

05:18:43.860 get her some tater tots she'll be fine get maybe a blanket a little blankie get her a blanket get her

05:18:49.940 some tater tots um mashed potatoes even get maybe even oh oh you got it look at this champ sorry

05:18:59.540 wait wait i got you don't worry this is whoa okay a little tension okay my my roommate told me to take

05:19:07.620 you home no no what whoa my roommate told my roommate told me that you're my our new roommate

05:19:12.820 okay she loves you um in my opinion um unaliving wait wait just don't even don't even don't

05:19:20.740 guys that was the best that was the best part of my night that was the best part of my night what

05:19:25.380 was the best part of your night my little kiss anyways i think to equate are you guys going to

05:19:30.660 smash after this i think to equate um i think there's a little little chemistry here a little

05:19:38.420 chemistry i won't deny um to to equate unaliving yourself to an issue of not caring about oh my

05:19:50.020 god don't okay go ahead can we just move on to the next question i'm trying to move on but oh oh

05:19:54.660 sorry sorry we can move on it just was it's a sensitive subject it's fine it's fine okay so

05:19:59.300 related to the trans thing though um so okay we're still related to dating is it would it be straight

05:20:04.900 god damn i promised i wouldn't even go okay oh my god i promise nick i promise i can't believe

05:20:10.660 you're breaking a promise right now it is really hot in here so take off all your clothes i am getting

05:20:20.420 so hot i'm gonna take my clothes off excuse me you're excused okay that was fire so whatever what the

05:20:29.940 fuck what the heck well should i get into what would it be would it be straight for is it straight

05:20:40.020 for a a train uh a man to date a trans woman

05:20:46.660 last this is the last time i'm ever asking this question yeah because she's like identifying as a

05:20:52.340 woman in a woman's body and it's like perceived as a heterosexual relationship so i i would consider

05:20:57.060 that straight let's get everybody's answers i would say that's a trans relationship but that's

05:21:00.980 also subjective to the people and i don't feel like i'm not a trans person so i can't really define

05:21:04.820 it myself word no biologically that's not how it works not straight okay if she still has a penis

05:21:11.460 then no what if there is no peen i'd say it's pretty straight pretty straight okay yeah i think it's

05:21:18.100 straight straight what if if there's a peen straight i would question a straight man who

05:21:28.020 would have sex with someone with a penis i would question if they were fully straight but if they

05:21:31.220 said they were fully straight then like oh i don't know i mean damn andrew's losing his mind over there

05:21:37.620 okay what about you no not straight no not straight maddie not straight out all right not straight so

05:21:45.540 you said straight you said could be straight you said straight regardless of the yeah i think it's

05:21:52.340 it's straight i i reframed to say that i'm just not trans so i can't like define their relationship

05:21:57.700 um but i also think sexuality is something that's so fluid and like plenty of straight people experiment

05:22:03.460 with you know different types of relationships it's not gay if you only suck dick

05:22:09.460 but okay so straight it's a short form slang do you guys agree that straight is short form slang for

05:22:21.300 heterosexual okay so how could it ever be heterosexual well i i i can just ask this one question around the

05:22:28.900 panel if you'll humor me brian without using the word gender what does the word homosexual mean

05:22:36.420 a homo sorry damn like same sex attraction has nothing to do with gender but rather sex biological

05:22:46.500 sex i got bullied in high school i can use the slurs checks it out so heterosexual would be based on

05:22:53.060 biological sex as well from a um just definition standpoint yes okay what is what is the definition of

05:23:02.660 homosexual across across the board

05:23:07.460 a homo sorry i'm tired same i'm just like in my silly like same sex relationship it's same sex

05:23:14.180 attraction but if if someone transitions to the point where you perceive them to be that gender

05:23:19.780 you don't know you got this nick you don't know you don't know what their biological sex is you can

05:23:25.060 say that oh i can always tell whatever but like if you really can't perceive their biological

05:23:29.140 sex then how can you say it's not straight if they don't know what if you can perceive their

05:23:33.380 biological sex i like to think that other people's relationships are none of my yeah no no no hang

05:23:37.620 on what if you can perceive their biological sex what if you can why did why does it matter that much

05:23:44.020 to you you know like i just think let these people live their lives logic whether it matters or not

05:23:48.820 okay wait i have a question framework is irrelevant i have a question testing her logic i know i know you

05:23:53.940 need to jump in every time i'm talking to someone else but i'm not talking to you right now okay so i'm

05:23:58.020 asking gonna ask her again if it's okay with you your majesty if she can explain what she means when

05:24:05.780 i ask her what if you do know what her biological sex is well personally i would define it as same

05:24:12.580 gender attraction but you said we can't say gender so i mean like yeah in that case i guess i mean if

05:24:17.780 we have to strictly go based off sex then no it wouldn't be heterosexual but that's not how i view

05:24:23.380 same-sex attraction and is gender a social construction

05:24:27.220 tilt it down sorry wow it takes fucking three women's oh my god at least we can change the

05:24:32.820 light bulb put our brains together sorry what'd you say is gender a social construction um

05:24:39.700 yes i don't think and did we agree earlier that social constructions don't actually exist in material

05:24:44.900 reality yeah so then i mean does heterosexuality exist does homosexuality exist i got it well

05:24:50.900 yeah those are biological terms for instance if you were to determine that two animals were

05:24:55.540 homosexual animals how would you do so if we determine how they by like biological sex because

05:25:02.980 animals don't have oh like by boy and are human beings animals yes oh well then i guess we can

05:25:10.020 determine who's homosexual and who isn't we have a higher every other animal can't we i mean you could

05:25:16.340 say that but i mean still like in inexperienced people who identify as straight can date trans

05:25:20.900 people and still identify as straight like you can tell them that they're not you're identifying based

05:25:24.820 on a social construction correct yeah and they're and they're attracted to the social construction of

05:25:29.940 someone else's gender i don't know so how would you identify if two elephants were engaged in a

05:25:36.660 homosexual act i i would identify their their penises their p in in p and b excuse me it seems

05:25:45.860 like it's pretty simple right and we're animals just like elephants well yeah but we have elephants

05:25:51.140 can't do social constructs we can so it's a little more nuanced right but social constructs don't exist

05:25:56.580 in material reality remember i didn't say that those are that shit we just make up it's a little more

05:26:02.580 nuanced for humans i think i think if someone says they're straight and they want to die on that hill

05:26:06.740 then so be it they're straight i can't tell them they're not yeah but why not because i have no

05:26:13.460 if it just means heterosexual or opposite sex we do know what that means if you were to identify that

05:26:19.220 two elephants were heterosexuals what would you be looking for i already said what i'd be looking for

05:26:24.580 i'd be looking for their biological sex but we're not elephants why is it that that does not apply to

05:26:29.540 humans just because they claim the opposite of what is reality because humans are not elephants we

05:26:36.580 have minds that can construct things like gender and gender identity gender yes we can construct

05:26:41.780 these things which do not exist however what is the way you think gender identity doesn't exist why is

05:26:47.140 it why is it that if two elephants had sex with each other you could say it's homosexual or heterosexual

05:26:53.060 or heterosexual sex based on the sex but for some reason you can't make that determination with humans

05:26:58.660 because we're not elephants and we actually do have gender identities and if you look at someone

05:27:04.740 that's an identity it does not have a question absent the mind what about people that are born

05:27:11.060 intersex or um both gendered which is a yes we can engage relative majority of our population like and

05:27:18.180 they choose to transition to one or the other so biologically they are technically both um say i was born

05:27:23.780 intersex hey would i not be in a straight would i not be in a straight relationship if i was

05:27:28.900 intersex and dated a man let me just grant for a second that intersex people are a third sex

05:27:34.740 99 of transgender people do not identify and nor are they intersex so this would still be begging the

05:27:43.140 question even if i granted to you that there was a third sex which there isn't but i just assumed that

05:27:48.660 there was based on intersex dynamic 99 of trans identity do not come from intersex biology so we're

05:27:56.820 how would you discuss um the double allele theory so the double x double y chromosome that exists

05:28:02.740 biologically um it's been linked to um homosexuality as well as being transgender people born with double

05:28:11.140 x or double y chromosome um are those would be intersex no actually there are people who are not born

05:28:17.140 intersex that do carry um more male by biology or more female biology a perfect example is castor

05:28:24.180 simania um biological female track and field runner uh let's just grant all of that what is the

05:28:29.940 percentage of trans people who hold such conditions um i i would love it would be a very low percentage

05:28:36.900 yes no but my my point is she's a biological female who is more genetically man just grant all of the

05:28:44.580 outliers i will just grant that i am right all the time and that women have no perspective of the

05:28:52.500 trans community and can have no input i'm granting your argument and then think about zebras guys

05:28:57.940 literally have you ever thought about it if you're lying you can't even see the zebras they blend

05:29:03.300 together i've never thought that was that was sorry that was that was nick back there so let's

05:29:08.820 let's try this again sorry i'm granting everything you're saying as true which is still irrelevant to

05:29:14.420 my argument can we talk about something else so assuming for a second let's say it's let's say it's

05:29:20.340 20 of trans people have an intersex condition why are you so obsessed with trans people not being

05:29:25.860 able to identify trans people can just like exist and that's okay let them live their lives i'm trying

05:29:31.220 well i care or they wouldn't be asking wait no i have an actual question if a guy says he's straight

05:29:36.180 but he's a trans woman and that makes him gay and in your mind like why does it bother you that he

05:29:41.540 is falsely identifying as straight you're co-opting no i'm genuinely i'm actually curious why it's a

05:29:50.180 that's actually awesome that you just said why does it bother you that he falsely identified in

05:29:56.420 in your logic it's false because we're elephants and we can only identify based on biological sex

05:30:02.020 why is that because homo why is that a problem has a meaning meaning is what okay no i'm saying if it

05:30:08.100 is false according to you i'm granting you that it's false why is it a problem that someone is

05:30:12.980 because like because i personally like i'm bisexual i didn't know that for a long time so so i'll explain

05:30:17.940 why okay besides my epistemology saying that it's immoral from the christian ethic let me also reiterate

05:30:25.380 that it is a lie and so if unless you're saying that we should utilize lies for the greater good

05:30:32.260 of society are you making that claim i'm so glad i'm not dating donated two hundred dollars

05:30:38.100 okay there's five men about to break into your house to assault you all six 175 plus pounds you

05:30:46.020 can choose five women at the table your choice or brian sure six apostrophe eight 454 pounds who has

05:30:54.340 the best chance of protecting you who is brian do they have a firearm yeah do i have one is there a

05:31:00.100 firearm let's just assume there's not i think no i'm so glad i'm not dating is there a firearm guys

05:31:06.020 we're women we have a kitchen we have soup cans we'll be okay i honestly don't think either either

05:31:11.620 group could protect me against five men yeah i don't think five women could and i don't think you

05:31:16.020 alone could it's not me oh you're not right i'm just dying no brian shaw he's six eight who can we

05:31:21.860 see who is brian sorry i'm sorry uh he's six eight wait is your name not brian 400 it is brian but he's

05:31:28.340 talking about a different brian i guess oh okay great example there how about brock lesnar that would have

05:31:32.820 been better um who's not as big as brian shaw i guess brian shaw six eight 454 pounds

05:31:41.540 who has the best chance of protecting you i feel like you could send one of the girls to go get

05:31:44.580 help so i don't know okay like i don't i don't know what brian shaw looks like is he like a mma

05:31:49.860 can you restate your question andrew to her and but i do want to move on pretty soon if you guys can

05:31:54.180 sure sure yeah yeah no problem so my question is do you think that lying is good for society

05:32:01.140 no i don't think it's good for society okay so then why should i tell a lie why should you tell

05:32:06.740 you shouldn't i mean no one should i should so so keep religion out of life donated 200

05:32:14.100 brian you get so worked up for people not answering questions like age etc so what's your body count

05:32:22.340 don't be bad faith based off this clip zero explain plaza

05:32:29.780 uh okay

05:32:33.540 what what's your body count what's your body count hold on well there's a couple things

05:32:38.260 there first off dude we can't pull up like links that you send in we don't do that um that's not

05:32:44.100 part of the uh tts but uh four people not answering questions like age so what's your body count i don't

05:32:49.060 answer the body count question so i don't there's not really is it double digits he thinks it's based

05:32:54.340 off this clip zero do you feel like do you feel like that's not being authentic like do you feel

05:32:58.820 like you're taking away from authenticity and honesty um and you're contributing to a lying society when you

05:33:05.460 don't share your body count on this platform well your argument well no that wouldn't be a lie if he

05:33:11.460 doesn't share it sure you're you're right you're right so why was it wrong for her to not share her

05:33:16.740 age i'm prepared to share my age okay what he said was that the rules of the platform were that he

05:33:23.380 wanted to have openness from his guests that does not require him to instead also be open none of these

05:33:30.580 things are lies nor none of them uh stated under false pretenses if you can assert how they are i'd love

05:33:37.140 to hear it 34. yeah nothing so if we get back i clarify i clarified that i was just being being

05:33:47.060 being funnily condescending i it was not founded in like a genuine and i was being funnily condescending

05:33:52.580 back oh okay word life is beautiful what do we word i love when we connect like this oh my gosh is he

05:34:00.820 making eyes at you right now oh my god now he got that perfect life at home all right no he totally

05:34:06.340 was not making eyes at her right now what are we so um andrew if you're fine with it i'll just move

05:34:12.980 on unless you do yeah yeah we can just move on if you if you want to make the another point that's fine

05:34:17.380 but it's not a it's not a big deal okay we'll move it on uh is lying hiding something about yourself

05:34:22.260 so your age or fake boobs or freckle tattoos just as bad as your significant other hiding something

05:34:28.580 from you like cheating on you i think if it is in terms of having a significant other like yeah

05:34:34.100 you're lying like you could lie about debt that's still bad it shows dishonesty and distrust and it's

05:34:39.060 going to build distrust in the relationship i definitely think cheating is worse though yeah me

05:34:43.460 too absolutely yeah some lies are worse than others i would agree um yeah but i think any like any regret

05:34:51.300 i've ever had has always kind of been founded in dishonesty i think it's just best to like go in

05:34:55.860 have you ever cheated on somebody never okay uh nick we're gonna pull up her dating app profile

05:35:02.180 no it's not mine oh wait sorry it's mine oh my god sorry i got my wires crossed there guys we're

05:35:08.340 doing a segment called dating app review this is our dear friend uh northy yeah a random fact i love

05:35:15.780 is don't match with me if you're on some i assume this means white yeah supremacy bs i'm not the one i

05:35:21.780 had like a really big issue with like people only matching with me because i have like white skin

05:35:26.340 and light eyes and it just like how would you know that because like people they say it they would

05:35:31.060 like i would like start talking to them and they would text me and then they'd just be like you know

05:35:34.580 what f black people though and i'm like what the hell yeah like so i can under so i can totally

05:35:40.660 understand that i can completely understand i had to put it in there black people blah blah blah blah

05:35:46.180 that's a big thing but what if they're it's just their preference their preferences are

05:35:50.660 no no it was it was it was definitely like really nasty kind of discussions that they were trying to

05:35:56.980 how many people did this like two i was gonna say because i've never experienced like more than two

05:36:02.420 like two to five three out of the thousands of people you see on dating apps i'm like so bad at

05:36:07.860 them though and i barely talk to anyone and then it just happens the people i do talk to just like

05:36:12.260 really like not great well to be to be fair i i having gone on a different show that was a dating

05:36:18.420 podcast it was brought to my attention that there are men who paper fetishize redheads or anybody who

05:36:26.500 has that type of complexion even with my eyes and they see them as they see them as being associated

05:36:34.340 with that community this is what i'm told i don't know if that's true or not but this is what i'm

05:36:39.220 told yeah and my eye color is like they're not really blue they're more like a gray and i'm

05:36:43.700 norwegian on top of that so it's like i'm like the prime thing that they look for is that your natural

05:36:48.660 hair color i'm naturally a strawberry blonde so that's so it's not your natural but she's got the

05:36:54.100 complexion the collection where if you have the red hair it can look enough like it because the

05:36:59.700 freckles and this and that that that would be associated and that seems to be enough for some of

05:37:04.180 these people yeah it's it was it was getting like so crazy and i i honestly don't even like dating apps i

05:37:08.820 meet people more organically and like make friends that way word oh the profile let's pull it back

05:37:16.020 up okay yeah so it's would you swipe on her yes would you swipe yes or would you swipe no next

05:37:23.380 oh what the fuck i'm talking yes for sure yes swipe yes on me i'll bark be silly little guys okay next

05:37:30.580 or i think that's it right all right that's you looking like a lunatic in the library i guess

05:37:35.940 it was a bookstore oh okay bookstore i mean it's not that bad brian it's not not that bad

05:37:42.900 i mean we've seen worse we've seen way worse we have seen way wait who here so i have the goofy

05:37:48.340 picture on there because like i as a partner i need someone that's also goofy you need a goofy

05:37:52.580 partner like i need someone that can make me laugh if you can't make me laugh i'm just i get bored

05:37:55.940 like no thank you what what i don't know i don't know i just feel like you should make

05:38:02.820 your life bro this is look we've had a lot of love connections laugh so much tonight oh my gosh

05:38:07.380 we've had a lot of love connections on the whatever podcast and i just get i don't know i think there's

05:38:11.700 there's i think there's something are we best friends now yeah i think so we both know stop it

05:38:20.340 get some help rudy would be like you're making out before you even knew each other we didn't make

05:38:26.820 out that was a perfectly perfectly you know what european's kidding calm down calm down relax

05:38:33.460 perfectly respectable

05:38:38.420 would you bark for me what the whoa this is getting wait maybe not no no nick would you

05:38:44.180 bark for me she's she's i'm like no be honest would you nick bark dude bark for me don't do it wait

05:38:50.820 nick don't do it come here boy nick no don't do it no nick don't do it don't do it don't do it

05:38:54.740 bark for me this is some curse shit bark for me don't do it come here no it's okay you'll get

05:38:59.300 blessed damn bro she's gonna peg you next thing she's gonna peg you i'll get my strap baby it's

05:39:05.060 okay baby girl you can bark for me are you guys gonna like make out right now is that what's about

05:39:09.700 to happen no no three-way make out don't bark for me don't be shy bro this game i know you hear me

05:39:17.620 dude you had her in the bag you're about to fumble her with this barking

05:39:20.820 not much i don't know i feel like i have to be like yeah to talk because i'm talking yeah you do

05:39:27.700 this is a first in whatever podcast really this is the first i think have we had girls

05:39:33.380 that i bring out the

05:39:37.860 guys raise your hand if you're a girl here who's ever pecked another girl on the lips

05:39:41.460 i love it okay let me get through some of my pre-show notes here i'll try i'll try to wrap up

05:39:51.460 i do have a lot of pre-show notes that we haven't even got to yet so i'll try my best to do it as

05:39:56.340 quickly as possible um so caroline uh so you said you're a virgin you're waiting for marriage

05:40:02.980 um are you religious christian catholic catholic catholic okay um you say catholic base catholic

05:40:12.020 base catholic uh just saying can you tell us like the 10 second version of your lung love triangle

05:40:18.660 story really quick um did you fart medicine i'm sorry oh my god i sent him my words that farts

05:40:27.460 on whatever podcast i have farted before yes this was my shortest relationship it was two weeks um

05:40:35.540 this guy who was 26 i was 23 um was inviting me all the time to to the restaurant that he managed

05:40:42.980 or was the bar manager at and he was also hooking up with the waitress and the bartender and not

05:40:48.020 telling any of us and he asked me to be his girlfriend i think i was his girlfriend for like

05:40:52.340 a week and then um the waitress asked me what we were i said he oh he's my boyfriend she said oh

05:40:59.060 we just hooked up like 30 minutes ago i was like never mind he's not uh that's fine um i told him

05:41:05.780 you know like yeah we're done he was literally like shaking when all three of us were talking because he

05:41:09.940 was like telling all of us different stories like oh she doesn't like you into the mic i'm sorry he

05:41:15.140 would be like telling each of us oh that girl doesn't like you because of like he would give other

05:41:19.460 reasons that didn't make sense and i was just like well that's odd i wasn't even asking about

05:41:23.620 her and she wouldn't be asking about me and he was like this girl's always coming to hang out with me

05:41:27.780 at the restaurant i don't know why she's being so annoying but he would be like are you coming

05:41:31.300 are you gonna come after your job i was like sure i'll come by for like 10 minutes but yeah anyways it

05:41:37.380 was horrible you said something that you disagree with uh you have an issue with my whole bowing thing

05:41:44.100 that i like women to to bow well you said in a relationship that you would prefer that right

05:41:50.580 that's can you define what you mean like oh yeah yeah nick nick pull up the video pull up the video

05:41:57.700 all right this is this has to just be like a hot take like there's go ahead play that

05:42:01.940 boom holy that's a great bow are you trolling one more time hold on chill out chill out dog girl

05:42:08.180 hold on it's just barking at me the entire night she doesn't boom check that out skip forward a

05:42:13.780 little bit to the the food part who cares about that yep there we go look at this attentive gets

05:42:19.060 me a i don't know if that's i don't drink but uh alcohol look at this attentive stirring my noodles

05:42:26.580 i don't really she doesn't have to do that look at that look wow that would be one more time

05:42:32.020 one more time let's see the bow the bow huge holy shit yes i it's not a joke i want a girl to bow to

05:42:39.700 me okay that's and i get huh it's weird yeah bro you've been barking you've been barking all night

05:42:47.540 i'm allowed to kink shame you because i'm the dominatrix in the room you're allowed to kink shame

05:42:51.540 me yeah kink shaming is my it's not wait hold on it's not even a sexual kink though if she's okay

05:42:58.500 with it and like she's happy to do it and you're into it totally by all means that's like weird

05:43:04.740 i don't know i would honor and respect thing yeah i would i would be fine if like a guy like bowed at

05:43:09.940 me back and we'd be like bowery we're just bowing wait so what's your objection would you bow back

05:43:14.980 hold on wait get nick you've totally missed this why is it split though hold on that makes no sense

05:43:20.900 okay would you bow back or no is it like only if she's bad no i don't no i don't bow back only her

05:43:27.380 only she so it just i think it's weird because it's like you're from like the western culture

05:43:31.700 and it's a very that's like an asian culture thing so i don't yeah i'm a cultural appropriator

05:43:37.620 well i'm culturally appropriate no no wait wait wait bowing is very much a western culture thing

05:43:46.100 yeah i'm sorry like in england like with the queen and the king and hang on don't you go to mass

05:43:50.820 yes but that's to god and you and you bow to other people don't you don't you bow your head

05:43:57.220 down to your priest no it's it's in it's towards the uh tabernacle which has jesus up no not just

05:44:03.460 the tabernacle your priest comes by no i don't bow to the priest i browse we don't bow to the priest

05:44:09.380 no towards the tabernacle towards the time that's which is where the priest is standing in front of

05:44:14.100 when he's giving communion okay okay so so so let me get this right it is very much a western thing

05:44:22.580 to bow i don't know where he got the idea this is an eastern tradition it's also a western tradition

05:44:27.860 well let me ask you this would you curtsy

05:44:32.100 if i lived in like the 15th century to the queen no you're not the 15th century this is not some old

05:44:37.780 practice if i saw the queen or the king in england for some reason now yes because

05:44:42.660 this is an american thing curtsying is an american no i don't think there's anyone in america i would

05:44:49.860 curtsy or bow to i would want men to bow to me why but why i don't understand who's asking me over

05:44:56.180 here to why wouldn't you if he asked you to do it what he's the head he is the head in your marriage

05:45:02.020 this is your faith he represents the head i wouldn't be i don't think you represent the body

05:45:07.300 why wouldn't you bow because the head isn't well he's not jesus like i'm not he doesn't have to be

05:45:13.700 jesus that's not the point he's the representation of christ in the church right i guess i wouldn't be

05:45:19.140 with someone who wanted that just because i think it's strange that's my opinion strange but is there

05:45:24.020 anything actually wrong with it um i don't think there's no it's not hurting anybody there's nothing

05:45:29.700 wrong with it would it be okay if a man so you just you just but now let me ask what what if your

05:45:36.340 husband liked it haram right hang on what if your husband liked it and bowed back then would it be

05:45:42.580 okay uh i would just think it's strange i mean it's okay but i think personally it's strange i wouldn't

05:45:50.340 want to do that wait i have a question no i was just saying so so then it's it's really just if you

05:45:58.500 had to bow and he didn't bow back that's where the real problem is right no i i just think the whole

05:46:05.460 thing would be strange even just the girl bowing if it's them bowing to each other and it's not

05:46:09.700 like like i know you're saying it's part of our culture but not in today's age here i feel like it's

05:46:15.860 very much not yeah but catholicism is very much a past tense everything you practice inside of

05:46:22.180 catholicism is based on traditionalism yes but you are going to a mass which has been done for

05:46:28.020 how many centuries but we don't bow to each other is that it's unchanging in the faith though you don't

05:46:33.460 bow to each other yeah but it doesn't matter if you bow in it or not saying that this is not

05:46:37.620 something which is done in modernity is kind of strange considering that you follow a practice

05:46:42.580 which has nothing to do at all with modernity so i don't understand the argument that you don't

05:46:48.660 understand why i wouldn't want it in like a marriage versus doing it in my faith no i'm saying that if

05:46:54.340 your argument is this is not something which is done in modernity in western culture well that's a

05:47:00.340 silly argument because catholicism is still done based on traditionalism they're still doing the same

05:47:06.820 mass that they did what a thousand years ago right this is the whole point of it so the question

05:47:12.260 becomes if you're following that practice from something which is traditional bowing is most

05:47:16.900 certainly traditional in western cultures what would be the actual problem there i don't think i'm

05:47:23.620 following oh let me let me come in on this a little bit because she has a problem and drew he i don't

05:47:28.740 think he requires bowing i do requirement if you don't want to bow back to the streets you go

05:47:36.980 uh so you want to get married right yes okay you i assume you want your fiance future fiance or boyfriend

05:47:47.220 to get down on one knee kneel in front of you and spend perhaps even i think what they recommend is

05:47:55.060 three months salary on a diamond ring which probably costs orders of magnitude less than that's another

05:48:03.620 conversation uh i assume you want him to do that correct uh if if the person just asked me standing

05:48:10.500 and i don't wouldn't care honestly actually well you would agree it's typically traditionally for

05:48:15.700 for a man to get down on one dad didn't i think it was muddy and he didn't okay well do you want the

05:48:22.420 man to purchase a a ring i'm assuming right uh yes that yeah okay it doesn't have to be extremely

05:48:28.740 expensive but like so all i want is a very token bow you know when you see me

05:48:35.940 maybe upon departure maybe so but okay i'll take i'll take one bow a day i just need one bow a day

05:48:42.580 it takes three seconds but kneeling your fiance like that's once ever yeah yeah but this is a daily yes

05:48:49.220 correct as long as your relationship get with the program she's cool with it i'm totally in support of

05:48:56.340 you doing what you want to do in your relationship they want to yeah but like if another girl if

05:49:00.660 another girl finds it weird to wrap your head around oh i i i could see it as being a sign of

05:49:07.940 respect i think we do other things to show show me about come on let's see men want to bow to me

05:49:12.820 let's see about can you do about let's see about if if i bow to you will you bark let's see about

05:49:19.940 show me about come on up up you go i will i'll bark if you bow wait andrew's gonna do it if he'll

05:49:29.060 if you'll if you'll bark i will bow i'll do it yep i'll do it go ahead just go just go do it go yeah do

05:49:38.420 that was actually not bad i mean there's a little bad let me give you some hold on stay there let me

05:49:43.540 give you just so you know i completely fucking lied there ain't no way i'm barking how could you do

05:49:47.620 i just thought how could you do that i take back my bow okay i'll bark for you my bow is for all the

05:49:53.060 ladies here she's gonna sue you now you're contractually obligated i know i know you misled

05:49:58.100 her and now she's gonna that was decent there was a bit of a a a motion in the knees i didn't like

05:50:03.940 i i don't know i haven't it was a bit jumpy but it was you know but i think it's okay to show signs

05:50:08.820 of respect in other ways okay cool you want to do about anybody you want i think i would love what

05:50:16.740 about you will you do about i could do a sitting bow but i wouldn't stand there's too many there's

05:50:21.060 like i don't want to have to like mess around yeah you could just scoot back it'll take like

05:50:24.660 five seconds okay dude the patriarchy wins guys the patriarchy how about you how about you get on

05:50:30.420 your knee and propose to me get on your knees give me a proposal look at this no no no no hold on no no

05:50:37.460 this is not religious it's this it's that it's kind of like yeah yeah i know there you go that was

05:50:42.740 you could have gone a bit deeper it was a bit disrespectful i'll accept it i'll accept it but

05:50:48.100 i'm proud of it it was to the chat wait can you give me an example of a bow i can't back everything

05:50:52.820 i said they're all bowing look at this dude the patriarchy but at five hours into the pub the

05:50:57.300 patriarchy wins the patriarchy didn't all the patriarchy wins i thought you guys claimed that

05:51:03.220 the patriarchy wins i'm sorry is it not empowering though we chose to bow it was a it was under my

05:51:10.580 authority no i was but i could have said no she's a dominatrix would you bow to me

05:51:16.020 only definitely the do it baby girl again wait what it always does win i mean that's that was our

05:51:20.580 argument you're kind of agreeing with us last last thing on the bowing thing also the crazy thing that

05:51:24.900 me is like you'll you'll have a girl right who will object to the bowing thing but but like they'll

05:51:33.460 argue with me or they just would like on the panel right they'll no i would never bow to a guy but

05:51:39.780 within an hour of meeting a guy you'll let him splooge on your face i won't wait who are the

05:51:45.300 people you're talking about i don't think it's any girls here except like a couple but women won't

05:51:50.420 bow to men but let them jizz on her face of course what are you like of course what world in what

05:51:56.420 world are you like bro okay let me give you a better example do women get on their knees all the time

05:52:04.260 for men including women at that table who the hell is all the damn time bro we live you know

05:52:09.220 you know who get on their knees for me you know who get on their knees for me a lot of guys no

05:52:13.220 no no no no no listen carefully to what i'm saying listen carefully what i'm saying

05:52:17.140 are there women at this table who have gotten on their knees for men during a specific act

05:52:25.940 i've gotten on my carnal are you talking about carnal knowledge andrew

05:52:28.980 carnal knowledge carnal knowledge i'm guessing most of the women at the table have gotten on

05:52:34.660 their knees for the carnal knowledge act but bowing is just a little too much i don't know about that

05:52:40.580 that's misogynistic andrew well i don't know i think misandrous to hide the fact that probably

05:52:48.180 most of you have gotten on your knees for a man at some point but the whole bowing that's just too

05:52:52.500 much i said i don't know i think as long as i see you're laughing i see you guys smiling because you

05:52:56.980 know it's true you know as i said earlier i think as long as she's okay with it and that works in your

05:53:02.420 dynamic of the relationship that's totally fine here's where i typically hear the argument that i just

05:53:07.380 make is like a guy will be like well my girl she doesn't want to cook for me and the girl will be

05:53:11.460 like well bro you're not like you don't get those kind of uh wife duties until we're married or whatever

05:53:16.580 bullshit and it's like you will s the d with ferociousness but you won't even make your guy a

05:53:23.860 sandwich you won't even do a bow but you'll like let him blast on the face it's just crazy to me son

05:53:30.740 it's crazy son would you trade like a woman just bowing to you like instead of like making you food

05:53:37.780 would you like wait what's the trade we would you would try it all taking like all of the benefits

05:53:44.900 are within the realm of what i want and expect has this like worked for you in practice have you had

05:53:50.500 like a long-term relationship on the bow front dude on the bow front you don't even want to know dog i'm

05:53:55.300 killing it on the fucking bow front chicks bro it's crazy son some people like it's crazy bro on command

05:54:03.380 on command bow boom bow down done i would die it's done i mean that's impressive that you've

05:54:11.380 found multiple women that will do that yes so your body count is like yeah you ran i'm a virgin

05:54:17.620 dude i'm a virgin are you i'm a virgin guys is it more ran through if every girl you've ever slept

05:54:22.500 with bows down to you yes that counts for like double that's like a double body count bro if a

05:54:27.380 girl bows to you it counts for like three bodies that's three bodies right there i don't know that's

05:54:33.700 some that's some that's three bodies some kind of crazy man girl math i've never heard that

05:54:38.740 shit girl math you crazy it's girl math all right i gotta move on from the bowing thing but um

05:54:45.140 i don't know i'm i'm telling you ladies if you're struggling on the the guy front just

05:54:49.940 fucking just try a bow dude he's gonna i'm telling you it's gonna work he's gonna like you more

05:54:55.140 i'm just saying i'm just saying okay uh northy you said you consider yourself a centralist i don't

05:54:59.780 know what the fuck that means i don't know either you said that you

05:55:02.340 uh let's we'll do split here uh you said you love doing dom and soft dom pillow talk smr i'm not

05:55:11.380 going to name the other one eye contact content um so what is doing dom and soft dom i i kind of

05:55:18.660 i'm not really sure can we get sample oh like right now not nothing physical but maybe like verbal

05:55:24.820 do you want mommy to tell you you're a good boy

05:55:26.820 excuse me like that would be soft dom hard dom with me being like you're

05:55:36.100 fucking pathetic i hate you damn what the fuck yeah it's like you're a fucking loser

05:55:43.460 shut up you're not allowed to speak unless spoken to shut the fuck up okay keep telling yourself that

05:55:52.340 what is uh so what is uh what's pillow talk um here just do it to the audience right here into this

05:55:58.260 right here i want you to run your hand up your thigh for me you know it's like just like dirty

05:56:05.060 talking and slowly unzip your pants this is actually against twitch terms of service okay

05:56:13.300 god damn bro trying to get me canceling shit well i stopped before it was against terms

05:56:16.740 okay okay okay okay all right you're so welcome okay eye contact eye contact content what is that

05:56:22.020 you just can we like get a zoom on my face that's right here that's that's the best we can do go ahead

05:56:29.300 i feel like i need like a person to like look at i don't know maybe we could get like a

05:56:33.060 i don't know maybe i don't know maybe i don't know maybe i don't know maybe i don't know

05:56:38.340 like that the live reaction right there

05:56:42.420 that was hot people

05:56:45.300 you know it's like eye contact you know

05:56:48.580 oh man okay um

05:57:01.540 fit fin you're in you do finndom finndom financial domination yeah like so you just

05:57:06.580 siphon money from men basically yeah i siphon them from losers specifically

05:57:11.060 from losers yeah they're fucking losers what they're fucking losers and they send me a hundred

05:57:15.460 dollars and i'm like that was fucking pathetic at another zero stupid idiot

05:57:20.740 you know but i'm trying to transition out of that i am started a youtube channel

05:57:26.420 where i interview drunk people it's called hard ones that sounds great

05:57:31.300 it's great cool bless you how much uh how much money did you make uh doing the dominatrix

05:57:36.340 shit i don't know um i don't really six figures keep track six figures i wouldn't say that because i

05:57:42.340 don't like do like full nudity or anything so it's a bit like different like there's a cap to

05:57:46.580 like how much money i can make but uh did you ever do anything in person dominatrix style no

05:57:54.260 nothing it was so this was all done via text it's just like done over like of

05:58:00.180 yo oh we're only fans yeah i don't know i feel like a lot of girls claim they do this

05:58:05.540 shit but they actually aren't they don't like really know because i don't know if you saw that

05:58:09.540 video that was on reddit like a day or two ago there's like she used to work for the howard stern

05:58:13.780 show maybe the viewers in the chat know what i'm talking about it was a girl driving and then there's

05:58:18.260 a guy in like a blue uh blue she smacks him smacks smacks him up and i assume there's some kind of weird

05:58:26.180 like kink dynamic going on there but she's totally it up but she smacks the dude in the face

05:58:32.020 and like i don't know they're just up the whole kink thing or whatever and then he like

05:58:36.660 like she starts hitting him and then he defends himself and fucking like grabs her hair and it's

05:58:43.460 fucking so i feel like a lot of girls like do this shit called her some very not so polite name i think

05:58:49.460 a lot of girls that claim they do this stuff just kind of make money out of like selling workbooks

05:58:54.820 to be honest i'm like how do you like would you say total that you've made doing the dom thing is

05:59:00.660 less than two thousand dollars no it's is it more than ten thousand dollars um it might be

05:59:08.900 i just kind of started doing it i started doing it this year so i think i'm probably at

05:59:15.220 i'm making i don't know like over 2k a month doing it but like i said i'm just starting out so

05:59:21.860 where's all the women who want to be fin fin donned bro there are women out there but like

05:59:29.060 i think they're looking for more in-person kind of stuff yeah i don't know yeah anyways uh last

05:59:34.740 quick thing on that uh you you also do like asmr shit go ahead oh

05:59:45.540 you have to like have headphones on to hear it but i'm sure the audience can hear it

05:59:48.740 all right you wanted to talk about not being willing to have sex right off the bat seems to

05:59:53.700 piss a lot of guys off and it gets pretty interesting yes they get mad they get mad mad

05:59:59.300 i'll tell them right off like i'll be like hey i'm not like that i'm not gonna have sex with you

06:00:02.660 like don't expect anything out of me you're not gonna get it um and it just like they always seem

06:00:07.860 to feel like they can try and convince me it doesn't work out in their favor and then they get pissed

06:00:11.860 do you wait so hang on hang on so you're saying that you know that their intention is that they

06:00:20.500 want to have some type of sexual relationship with you like and you explicitly know that but still

06:00:26.820 continue to lead them no that is absolutely not what i said what i said is like i'll go on dates with

06:00:33.860 guys and i'll tell them straight up hey i'm not gonna sleep with you like i just met you it's not

06:00:38.740 happening and they will take it upon themselves to try and convince me otherwise either through

06:00:44.980 like emotional manipulation begging whatever it just gets like really weird some get like

06:00:50.980 borderline violent and it's just like weird i didn't know i uh i drive them crazy this is just

06:00:58.740 for dates this has nothing to do with the fandom stuff yeah this is just for dates okay

06:01:03.780 they're they're insane they're crazy yeah well if the guy doesn't want to have sex with you he

06:01:10.580 should certainly shouldn't uh or if you don't want to have sex with the guy uh maybe you might still

06:01:16.100 like him right but you're not ready or whatever he certainly shouldn't push it yeah uh i do think

06:01:21.620 though like that this isn't really central to the topic i do think though a guy's totally within his

06:01:26.580 right if you're not interested in having sex he can just be like okay well i don't want to date you

06:01:32.020 then well that's fine i'm sure you're fine with that just wants to use me for my body so

06:01:36.580 that's what i'm saying but i'm sure you'd be fine though like if the guy you'd i assume you'd prefer

06:01:42.900 the guy just being like okay well i don't want to hang out anymore yeah i would much prefer that

06:01:47.300 sure yeah like then we're on the same page like i'm not what he's looking for and he's obviously not

06:01:51.300 what i'm looking for okay good times good times uh question though have you had sexual encounters

06:01:58.740 where you did have sex relatively quickly no never okay i think that's where some guys get

06:02:04.260 frustrated because it's like it's one thing if that's been the girl's standard for all of her

06:02:09.220 sexual encounters or relationships she she waited three days three months whatever it is but then to

06:02:15.060 switch up i can see where a guy would get frustrated there um because it feels like it's sort of this

06:02:22.340 switch up of values which sometimes seems very arbitrary especially in the case of for example let's say i was

06:02:28.500 dating a girl hey brian's teeny attorney one of the dopest mods over on twitch and on our discord

06:02:37.620 hey thank you so much for the gift of 20 memberships appreciate it um i mean i've definitely encountered

06:02:41.700 like i'll you know i've dated a girl who she told me well here's my body count blah blah i've had sex

06:02:47.860 relatively quickly but i want to wait three months with you and it's like well that's your right 100

06:02:53.060 but i would feel kind of like i'm getting a raw deal if i like so in that situation i'd just be like

06:02:58.820 well we can have a conversation about it me personally like me personally i'm just like hey

06:03:03.860 i'm not really interested in waiting that long i respect that you are and if there's a mismatch there

06:03:09.220 on if you're 100 respected oh thank you for the gifted 20 memberships man appreciate it thank you so much

06:03:18.260 man um you know maybe they're you know if there's a compromise great if not i think there's a mismatch

06:03:24.660 in what you want what i want so maybe you know we want different things maybe it's best we just

06:03:29.540 hey it was nice meeting you but uh we want different things let's part ways yeah i don't like knock

06:03:34.340 anyone who does like have casual sex but for me personally is like i'm not trying to waste my time

06:03:39.540 with casual sex and i'm not trying to like date casually so like anything that comes my way it just

06:03:45.060 needs to go well even for a long even for a long-term relationship for me i'm not interested

06:03:49.460 in just having sex with a bunch of women like if i have sex with a girl i want there to be a

06:03:53.300 continuity there absolutely would like if i have sex with a girl barring some like insane behavior

06:03:58.900 post-sex or something i don't know she stabs me or some shit like i there will be guaranteed i will

06:04:04.500 continue seeing you and there will be continuity i'm not interested in just having sex with a girl

06:04:08.660 once never seeing her again doesn't interest me do you think i would stab you probably yeah i i kind of

06:04:14.420 get there's something that look in your eyes i'm a little frightened a little scared um but yeah

06:04:19.380 it's kind of nice right like just over under like 50 50 yeah stabbing chance i think yeah definitely

06:04:25.300 um so okay anyways moving on let's see uh changing negotiating you good boundaries changing negotiating

06:04:31.220 yourself for a person um oh yeah i sent a lot i'd love to have some goofy light-hearted moments on your

06:04:38.260 show okay well that uh yeah um i think he needs more of that because it helps people open up more

06:04:42.980 right yeah it was just if you should honestly start the show with everyone's like bowing

06:04:49.460 i should i probably should actually that'd be pretty based okay you want to be on the show

06:04:54.500 so you gotta bow you gotta bow i'm kind of curious can i ask a question sure go ahead do you guys like

06:05:00.100 lil b who's that so you say based but you don't even know you don't know lil b who the fuck is that guy

06:05:06.500 who base god lil b like the based god the person who who the person who made the word based up

06:05:15.860 that's where based comes from no you should worry about it you should learn you should learn your

06:05:20.580 history no i was actually you see um you should you should do you see all of the whatever posts that

06:05:27.060 are behind you like literally all over the windows yes who came up with those the word whatever no who

06:05:34.900 came up with those i'm not i'm not what even i'm not sure why don't you know your history i don't get

06:05:41.460 it what no i was actually curious because i i've always wondered how based went from being like a

06:05:45.940 lil b like base god thing to being like a right wing like oh that's based well i'm not sure that how

06:05:51.060 actually believe you that that's its origin for why the right wing says it i think that um i i

06:05:57.220 think that that's probably nonsense but uh but assuming for a second is real i hate to break it to

06:06:03.220 you assuming assuming for a second let's not have a debate all about i was an actual question

06:06:11.700 i don't know where the origin of the word cool came uh either i have no idea do you where did the

06:06:17.620 word cool come from jazz i believe like cool jazz i'm not a linguist is that where it came from are

06:06:22.980 you sure yes i'm almost positive no but i did take a listening to jazz class there you go what about

06:06:28.980 the word hipster where did that come from i i came from the hipsters obviously anyways yeah you don't

06:06:35.940 know right so the thing is is like here's where the origin of the dictionary hold on hold on let me

06:06:43.780 move things on let me move things forward we have nicole eight ball over here why is your name wait

06:06:48.420 let's get into the table please uh why is your name eight ball nicole um my favorite number is eight and

06:06:54.820 i don't know i guess i always like the eight ball on the billboard the little billard i don't know

06:07:01.220 yeah you said you grew up in the bay you were mainly lesbian but started liking men we talked about

06:07:06.660 that you said modern dating is hard i agree women shouldn't have high body counts and should be more

06:07:11.780 traditional yeah okay cool um good good talk good talk any anything you want to talk on

06:07:26.900 into the mic you may be scooting into the table how tall are you i'm short i'm 5'2

06:07:33.060 i'm really short i don't think you might be shorter than that don't don't cap

06:07:35.940 uh no i'm 5'2 okay okay wait do you want to just like at the end of the show you want to just like

06:07:42.660 do a little eye reveal do it do it wait do you have like a lazy eye is that it no it's okay like lazy

06:07:50.500 eyes are fun no i just you just what i just don't show it like why why don't you i don't know i just it's

06:07:58.100 awkward eye contact's really awkward well what if you take them off but you just don't look anybody in

06:08:03.140 the eyes she's sleeping yeah just look around awkwardly can we see it wait hold on actually

06:08:09.140 wait this could be i don't know if you guys agree this could be a real growth moment here

06:08:13.620 i feel like you know i understand no pressure though yeah no no no obligation i understand that there's

06:08:19.460 some social discomfort with uh having your eyes be visible but i do think that you know you're uh 30

06:08:27.220 years old right i do think it is important i think this is something that can be overcome and i

06:08:32.260 think you're limiting yourself i think it's a limiting belief and i think right here on the

06:08:37.140 whatever podcast i'm going to put you through a little bit of uh exposure therapy so let me just uh

06:08:46.820 so you don't take off the glasses i got you bro trust me trust me no i can't no

06:08:54.580 but it's okay growth but growth doesn't happen in like five minutes maybe maybe when the cameras are

06:09:01.300 off you can do it yeah yeah yeah you don't have to do it on cameras do you wear them at night time

06:09:06.340 as well um yes sometimes yeah look all right we're gonna do this together we're in this

06:09:13.540 fucking together i'm also autistic okay she said she was autistic that's why she needs the

06:09:19.780 the the glasses all right watch here follow my lead ready put your hands up ready

06:09:26.500 no hey follow my ready simon says yeah just come on come on be a traditional submissive woman ready

06:09:36.100 you said you want to be traditional modern dating's hard i'm helping you out here ready

06:09:40.100 ready come on come on she's gay no she she well bye

06:09:44.180 yeah when's the last time you've had carnal knowledge what sex when's the last time you had

06:09:51.780 carnal knowledge what is that sex no sex i mean sex like are you is that a real like yeah carnal

06:09:59.940 knowledge like um

06:10:04.420 what last month a month ago with the with the guy yeah with that with the guy yeah wait are you guys

06:10:13.780 still talking no you're cheating on me what the bro what the damn bro all right look check this

06:10:22.660 shit out right okay i'm helping you out here this is a growth this is a moment of growth i'm

06:10:28.260 fucking tony robbins okay get your hand get your index fingers and your thumb on the the the uh i

06:10:36.980 don't know what they're called you ready she's not gonna do this shit no watch this shit boys

06:10:43.460 holy shit fuck bro holy shit holy shit wait she did it i did it what the

06:10:50.580 i'm confused though i thought you weren't dating that dude but you

06:10:52.980 fucked him a month ago what's up it's complicated it was complicated situationship perhaps do you

06:11:00.580 wait do you like wear them during sex no no wait into the mic bro no there you go you don't wear

06:11:08.260 the sunglasses during sex is it is it autistic sex i don't even is that is he autistic today no okay um

06:11:17.540 um why don't i'm confused though why don't you wear it during during sex i mean that's like super

06:11:26.740 intimate bro fall off anyway i don't know i don't know those look pretty sturdy okay all right i'm done

06:11:32.420 i'm done i'm done all right uh aria area aria aria wait you did say you were did you say you were

06:11:40.900 a feminist on the show um i said i didn't know remember in your notes oh i'm just getting to

06:11:46.740 this now fine in your notes you said you're a feminist i didn't have the correct definition

06:11:50.420 of it okay all right you said you're a spiritual healer we talked about that single dating you've

06:11:55.460 mostly been dating sugar daddies the only relationships that i had for love were when

06:11:59.780 i was younger and those men did not appreciate me and were jealous because i was making more money

06:12:03.780 by dancing i think they hated me i just recently stopped dating sugar daddies and have gone for almost

06:12:09.140 genuine connections with men that have no issue financially or emotionally spoiling me

06:12:15.940 accurate i thought you were currently seeing a sugar daddy well i established that i don't really like

06:12:23.620 label them sugar daddies like that's kind of just for the internet i prefer the spoiled girlfriend route

06:12:31.140 so you do you believe you you want to be financially and emotionally spoiled

06:12:35.140 what does it mean to be financially and emotionally spoiled financially spoiled means like as long as

06:12:42.420 it's realistic and you have the funds you'll buy something for me emotionally spoiled just means to the

06:12:49.780 best of your capability you're there for me emotionally bro a lot of men kind of lack that

06:12:56.660 so you want to be financially spoiled andrew you got something on this i'm sure i'm sure

06:13:01.860 yeah i was uh so so i have a great argument for the law of attraction that i thought i might run by you

06:13:12.020 you do realize that in order for the law of attraction to work you would have to actually be

06:13:17.700 interfering with somebody's will and compelling them to your own will isn't that immoral law of

06:13:24.580 attraction was like a slip up earlier and it's art of seduction the art of seduction would work the

06:13:30.580 exact same way you said you have to believe in it right so in order to believe in it you are putting

06:13:35.220 your will to power that is what is making the other person conform to your will yes sure so if that's

06:13:41.860 true then that means that you're interfering with their will sure yeah and do you think that that's moral

06:13:52.020 people make their own decisions i'm not putting it if it's moral to interfere with a person's will

06:13:58.180 then what would actually be your argument against slavery i don't have an argument no you don't have

06:14:04.660 an argument i'm just saying if if if it is true that you can use magic in order to interfere with a

06:14:14.420 person's will and they would not make the same decision they would ordinarily make due to your magical

06:14:21.140 prowess how could that possibly not be immoral and not akin to slavery we're talking about art of

06:14:28.020 seduction right not magic you know but you said earlier that you utilize magic for this art of

06:14:35.220 seduction um i think i was referring to like actual like alchemy art of seduction and magic aren't

06:14:44.260 together you want so you're not you don't wait so you cast no spells do no sort of magic for the

06:14:52.500 interest of love no for love absolutely not what you didn't you what about for material

06:15:04.500 i'm i was distracted what what about for material gain for material gain yeah you can do money magic

06:15:11.780 you can do all well then that's the same thing applied if you're doing magic for those things you

06:15:15.780 still would necessarily be interfering with a person's will in order for them to deliver those

06:15:20.100 goods to you okay isn't that sorry my back hurts my titties are too heavy your titties hurt like it's

06:15:29.140 i'm trying to be here and i'm trying to be aware it's just been a very long podcast and you're like

06:15:34.580 talking about magic artist seduction and slavery i can't do it anymore bro i can't i'm i'm tapped out of

06:15:42.580 this one all right i'll try to wrap up here soon thank you just a couple questions that are pretty

06:15:48.580 simple here you said that uh your twitter username is braddy salute yeah cool name um thank you on your

06:15:56.580 tick tock it's stripper witch yeah so you're a witch yes i prefer alchemist because a lot of people

06:16:05.140 yeah a lot of people don't like the terminology of like witch but yeah yeah but alchemy is the pursuit

06:16:12.260 of changing uh base metals into gold alchemy is not the pursuit of magic um alchemy can be

06:16:19.860 it's honestly transformation of anything you can take something intangible like energy

06:16:24.980 and then manifest tangible results so yeah those results require other people's will

06:16:32.180 sometimes yeah if that's true and you compel their will then aren't you making them your slave

06:16:37.780 oh my god shut up please hey i don't understand why this is an upsetting question be nice annoying

06:16:46.260 be nice be nice be nice she said her back hurts because of the titties andrew be considerate

06:16:57.060 her giant titties are hurting her back would you please be considerate of her giant titties please

06:17:02.020 my spine is screaming sorry andrew um

06:17:10.900 okay uh let's see here i think oh is that

06:17:14.260 alexandra who's alexandra do we have an alexandra here i don't know we have a bunch of

06:17:19.220 fucking no shows today we are the fucking the sub one chick and alexandra some other

06:17:25.860 shelly and fucking no showed good shit um so i think that's all my pre-show notes um i'm trying

06:17:33.060 to think if there's anything else uh we didn't go into my thing completely oh we didn't i mean we

06:17:38.100 don't have to it's fine hold on let me just see what i missed from you uh we get distracted i get

06:17:43.940 it what'd you miss from the catholic chick these other chicks had so much attention

06:17:49.380 barely anything on that side brian well the only notes i got from her was virgin waiting for marriage

06:17:57.460 love triangle story and the she disagrees with the bowing thing and we covered that's it yeah that was

06:18:03.060 it all right do you have anything you want to talk about um i sorry i um i think i talked about um

06:18:13.220 porn because i think on another podcast you said it's not like a drug and that's i disagree on that

06:18:19.460 one oh yeah gooning like gooning is like totally like a drug thing now well i don't know precisely

06:18:25.460 what i've said but i think i don't think that let's just assume let's just say there is porn addiction

06:18:31.380 i don't think it's approaching anywhere the the severity of like a

06:18:35.540 uh do you know a drug addiction do you know what gooning is no i don't know okay so okay so

06:18:41.620 like gooning is like when you're edging and you just like edge for hours and it puts your brain into

06:18:47.220 a trance what is edging it's when you touch your peepee but you don't let your peepee come but you

06:18:53.700 get close to the coming whummies and that's what okay so so let's assume for a second that i don't

06:18:59.540 speak psycho babble can you repeat that in english get the rocks yeah get the rocks get the rocks okay

06:19:06.100 um so it's when you are masturbating i think it's usually with a male i don't think women do it

06:19:12.820 yeah women can edge but like it's like it's like a very popular like male thing that's going on right

06:19:16.900 now where you what's this have to do with it you master wait just let me i'll explain it all for

06:19:21.300 you okay baby girl um so you will you will whoa whoa whoa what'd you call brian he's a baby girl

06:19:28.580 whoa whoa look he's blushing i don't know let me let me just get that you gotta you gotta stand up

06:19:34.260 and bow as a form of apology now that was pretty rude yeah it was super rude it was super rude it's

06:19:39.940 okay uh let me get through this so no no no no it's not okay you're gonna have to do the bow

06:19:44.900 listen to the page okay listen to the whatever patriarch listen to your goddess i need to see a bow

06:19:50.980 right now you gotta see the bow you gotta see do the do the freaking bow do it bow wow do it

06:19:57.940 do it do it do it just do it don't let your dreams be dreams yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it

06:20:10.820 make your dreams come true just do it we love shyla labeouf i like his little rat tail some people dreams

06:20:20.980 imagine he brings you out to his podcast tens of thousands of viewers all this exposure i brought

06:20:27.060 him brownies make that such a rude comment i feel like a bow is in order i do do it finish what you

06:20:33.060 were saying i'm gonna you made brownies yeah i brought you i brought you brownies i brought you

06:20:37.220 guys brownies i feel like if you brought brownies you're gonna have to forgive her on that brian

06:20:41.300 um let me can i explain this whole thing so edging is when like you're masturbating and you

06:20:53.300 almost come but like you stop you like don't let yourself come and you just like do that like over

06:20:57.300 and over and then when you do it for hours on end it's like called gooning and basically like it puts

06:21:02.580 your brain in a trance reddit will know reddit will know but just look up r slash gooning i think

06:21:12.420 women are more privileged than men why i like how that came out of nowhere

06:21:19.540 why am i being targeted wait wait wait wait why time i i kind of want some debate time i don't feel

06:21:23.860 like obviously i disagree i don't think i have a debate anymore you're all debated out yeah yeah you

06:21:29.860 know i just think here see i'm just getting started now like i've i got like a burst of energy

06:21:34.100 all this talk feminist arguments about oppression are dead on arrival men have in fact been more

06:21:42.260 oppressed than women all of women's collective grievances fall flat in the face of just one

06:21:48.820 sole male grievance military conscription military conscription you can all whine all you want

06:21:55.540 the suffering that men have exclusively experienced during warfare orders of magnitude greater than

06:22:02.900 all of women's collective grievances suppose another six donated two hundred dollars my chest

06:22:09.220 so i can't answer a question that makes me look stupid andrew wilson is a master debater lol

06:22:16.020 even though i disagree with a lot of his positions i always enjoy his debate style oh thank you yeah that

06:22:22.740 that was quite the cop-out huh doesn't this lead to this my boobs are too big i just oh what could

06:22:28.260 he say what could he say so whatever podcast it is what it is do you ever get like breathless from

06:22:33.780 smoking cigarettes and having to work light one up andrew light it up well i mean i don't know

06:22:39.060 is that less damaging than having boobs so big your back hurts so bad you can't make an argument i don't

06:22:44.020 know light up a cigarette for the boys i'm not gonna let someone that looks like wolverine with

06:22:48.500 like a sleep disorder roast me please please well i don't know i don't know are you ever going to

06:22:53.780 take a picture of yourself your actual hair you tell me what does that mean that's kind of well

06:22:58.020 it just means that actually we just watched the video we just saw a video of my natural hair so

06:23:04.500 what do you mean i mean you started the talking let's get into it let's do it what that's your

06:23:09.620 argument wait wait suddenly your back is fine enough that's crazy it hurt so bad you look like

06:23:19.060 you got picked on in high school i'm glad that that created your career nothing no tos no tos

06:23:24.740 guys no tos what does that mean terms of service nothing crazy all the things which were explained

06:23:30.580 to you at the beginning of the podcast that you might have missed because your back hurt so bad

06:23:34.260 probably i just don't feel like arguing with an idiot at this point like i'm tired well if you

06:23:39.460 don't then you should probably leave the table because that's all it's full of okay well as soon

06:23:45.060 as you stop we can leave we're having such a wholesome moment we're having such a wholesome

06:23:49.780 guys brownies i have fig newtons and brownies all right and raspberries i think uh i think it's about

06:23:55.700 that time uh hold on one last thing but first guys like the video please if you enjoyed the show like

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06:24:21.300 have one get us there guys get us there uh can i promo my youtube so i can stop doing of oh oh uh

06:24:28.740 andrew what do you think is that fair no not even he's the patriarch sorry damn what if i bow nope

06:24:35.860 yes if you bow then you can promo the youtube that sounds fair okay do it let's do it

06:24:46.500 it's pretty good yeah oh yeah it's it it's pretty good it was all right thank you all right

06:24:52.420 so the youtube is called hard ones and if you do link tree slash hard ones you will find it

06:24:58.020 sorry i turned off the audio for that my bad should i repeat myself no my chat heard it my chat heard

06:25:06.180 it uh hold on uh wait wait let me get a little little one i did a bow i did about wow also be

06:25:12.500 sure to go subscribe to uh lucy's feet finder what are we profile lucy's i mean sorry what

06:25:20.260 uh huh i just made that up my feet are pretty though uh we're gonna on those of you on twitch

06:25:31.780 we will do a double raid here i just have one last thing uh any final thoughts from anybody before i

06:25:36.660 wrap this thing up speak now or forever hold your peace can i arm wrestle you nope he's scared he's

06:25:43.060 scared he's afraid i'll win no it's just i'm not gonna do you wait do you have tickets to the gun

06:25:48.980 show thank you you should feel so embarrassed right wait who about that joey that was such an

06:25:56.580 embarrassing joke tickets to the gun show is terrible who who asked oh my god give it give a redeemer

06:26:02.420 give a redeemer come on wait can you arm wrestle me after this is done no i'm not gonna arm i just

06:26:09.380 want to arm wrestle that's the redeemer you can arm wrestle gustavo i will okay uh i'm trying to

06:26:16.980 think there's shit there's some note i'm forgetting here uh you forgot your second hold on i'm just

06:26:24.580 gonna say hold on one sec one sec guys uh uh i got these ready to go okay so let me just um gonna

06:26:34.740 throw a couple hot things out there really quick at the end here uh women have dating on easy mode as

06:26:38.740 compared to men any woman can be a slut very few men can be a slut women don't need game slasher is

06:26:43.460 you just have to show up only traditional women deserve traditional treatment as most women are

06:26:47.460 not traditional men should not pay on first dates men with high body counts are allowed to date and

06:26:51.060 desire women who are virgins or have low body counts plastic surgery such as breast implants

06:26:56.100 fillers bbl makes women look worse men generally find tattoos on women at best neutral or negative

06:27:02.180 men should not date women who go out to bars clubs parties raves makeup is a lie age gap

06:27:06.180 relationships between consenting adults is 100 okay feminism is not about equality it's about

06:27:10.980 securing benefits for women men are and have been more oppressed than women women have equal rights

06:27:15.620 to men in actuality have more rights than privileges female privileges is great female privilege is

06:27:20.020 greater than male privilege there's no such thing as male privilege in totality you can be sexist towards

06:27:24.180 men you can rate be racist towards white people white people have culture on average men are physically

06:27:28.900 stronger than women technically it would not be straight to date a bleep all right wait brian

06:27:36.100 why that was epic you forgot to end it with your big labia matters oh hashtag big labia matters

06:27:42.340 i only date women with giant labia

06:27:46.980 like even if it's like goes down to the knees sign me up i need that i need that guinness world record

06:27:52.900 pussy i like bro i'm i'm trying to find it dude i think you have a fetish probably yeah probably if

06:27:59.620 you know anybody just kidding just kidding i know so many people cool yeah yeah they can't be

06:28:06.020 they can't like they have really big fat pussies

06:28:14.180 good talk i am being facetious but i do think i do think it is uh i do object to whether you're

06:28:20.340 a man or a woman you know we're having fun here but i do object to whether you're a man or a woman

06:28:25.780 being judged for the way you were born you know you're gen i don't believe in genitalia shaming

06:28:30.100 neither do i also circumcision is wrong i agree cool i love uncut you guys that's the end of the

06:28:37.940 show i've just thrown out like 20 things you guys probably disagree with but sorry

06:28:44.260 i forget you want to argue a bit no i agreed you agreed with all that

06:28:47.780 shit cool we've convinced her she's dropping out of college and becoming a nun

06:28:53.220 becoming a podcast wait wait wait what if we started like a cult and like it's like called

06:28:57.140 the whatever church and there's actual nuns and then and then you don't have to pay taxes

06:29:05.060 that's a good idea that's a good idea okay so i think we've nick is there anything we're missing

06:29:09.540 over there oh also i'm a natural body supremacist i i want to ban plastic surgery i just want to put

06:29:17.380 out there that i'm all natural i'm trying to promote my of leave me alone i don't even have

06:29:25.460 anything to press i thought it was supposed to be your youtube you didn't bow down low enough for an

06:29:30.020 of shout out come on um so a couple things here guys uh i'm going to do some twitch raids and then

06:29:37.860 andrew you're going to continue streaming for a little bit okay i'm going to do a redirect for

06:29:42.180 andrew for those of you watching on youtube guys hang tight here for just a sec i gotta do a couple

06:29:46.740 things um one second i'm gonna do a double raid we're gonna here's what we're gonna do so the first

06:29:53.380 thing we're gonna do hold on do we do uh i'm gonna raid do we do wait chat i'll leave it up to the chat

06:30:03.460 on youtube actually nick can you pull up the chat uh do we raid stay safe tv on twitch or do we raid

06:30:10.100 uh whoa wow grandma 78. do we do the grandma or stay safe i could do a double i'll do a double

06:30:19.460 maybe okay here's how we're gonna do it imagine getting domed by a ginger actually wait

06:30:28.580 whoa grandma i see a lot of whoa grandma's grandma's in the chat grandma's in the chat uh

06:30:32.900 uh whoa nick you're starting to pull these up right uh fuck i kind of always stay safe though

06:30:39.540 i'm gonna i'm gonna do i'm gonna be a little sneaky here i'm gonna do a double raid i'm gonna we're

06:30:44.020 gonna still be live those of you on twitch we're gonna stay live for a little bit i'm gonna raid

06:30:47.540 stay safe and i'm gonna raid the the whoa grandma uh first wow grandma stay safe first so we're gonna

06:30:55.140 raid uh stay safe first and then we'll send the rest of the people over to whoa grandma wow grandma excuse

06:31:03.140 me um all right you gotta you got pull up his stream you can pull up his stream we're gonna raid

06:31:13.220 in 10 seconds over on stay safe no no shot he's playing season of discovery who would raid me

06:31:22.180 at this hour he's he's uh doing a 24-hour stream crack 24-hour crack stream playing

06:31:28.500 world of warcraft to be awake okay i'm writing now oh that's a big crit hold on i love he's he's

06:31:37.380 oh he's got it and one percent crit 51 in normal vanilla wow it's 60 intellect or maybe like there

06:31:42.980 it is 60 the whatever podcast and my good friend brian okay chat w in the chat w in the chat for the

06:31:52.500 whatever podcast w for whatever and w for win w-w-w-w-w-w brian hey thank you man thank you the

06:32:00.260 whatever podcast thank you very much brian is a good friend of mine he's an undercover well i mean

06:32:07.380 hey he's not so undercover these days you guys know he's a wow player no no no i don't play any

06:32:11.700 video games he's always hanging out in the chat and uh i've gone down there to california i've been

06:32:16.020 on he's been on the show two times anyways those of you who are watching you can check him out on

06:32:20.900 twitch uh nick we're gonna do is there anything crazy to happen tonight can i go take a look at

06:32:25.060 wait actually wait oh hold on i'm gonna go why do you have oh that's him that's him i was like what

06:32:30.980 the oh wait he's gonna wait he's gonna watch now dude this is gonna be inception hold on this is

06:32:35.380 inception wait he's gonna watch now dude hold on this is inception hi ladies hi there hey brian

06:32:45.860 say hi say hi how are you doing hello i'm married don't talk to me say hi i'm married don't talk to

06:32:53.620 me oh my god okay hold on i want to go see the top clips chat was there any crazy drama that happened

06:33:01.380 today or what yeah sugar daddy uh yeah you can sugar daddy you can uh okay i'm gonna see uh and then

06:33:10.980 let's do the let's do the other lady we're gonna raid whoa wow grandma somebody i'm getting a massive

06:33:18.100 raid oh oh they already she's already talking about it guys before i send you over uh i try to raid

06:33:24.500 smaller streamers give them some love she's got like i think 200 right now we're gonna raid oh should i

06:33:29.780 well i sent most of them stay safe but it's okay we'll still send to some people guys she's 82

06:33:34.500 she plays world of warcraft tell her she should come on the podcast be nice over there be nice

06:33:39.700 like i said last time if i hear that you guys were being dickheads i'ma ban you whatever they were here

06:33:44.740 yesterday i'ma raid her in about 10 seconds uh be nice guys be very nice to her she's a sweet sweet

06:33:50.500 sweet lady sweet lady uh she's playing world of warcraft so uh i'm sending you over right now thank you

06:33:57.060 thank you those watching on twitch oh i didn't do my outro on twitch so whatever podcast is coming

06:34:01.540 back today they were here yesterday she forget in her days can you boost the audio nick because

06:34:09.860 oh there it is hey whatever podcast hi there i wish we could talk to her welcome raiders oh no i'm gonna

06:34:17.540 okay we still sent like 250 oh she just died dude we just killed her dude she just died holy

06:34:24.740 shit back okay damn is she really good at this game i i don't know i'm sure i guess a little bit

06:34:33.940 okay anyways um yo uh go come on this show i'm not he wants me on my show anyways i'm not flying to

06:34:42.340 santa barba right there okay we'll set it up we'll set it up we'll go to her we'll handle the

06:34:48.900 flights bro we'll handle the flights okay um so anyways that was a good show gg well played to the

06:34:56.260 panel uh gg well played last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning

06:35:01.940 in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that

06:35:04.900 thank you to everyone who so graciously super chats donates and supports the show

06:35:09.140 your patronage is very much um very much appreciated we will be live again sunday

06:35:14.660 5 p.m pacific we have should i announce it andrew

06:35:21.060 oh i can't hear you

06:35:25.060 well that's an l for me tonight but uh yeah of course you should we will have andrew in studio

06:35:31.460 next week uh for sunday and tuesday guys got some good shows lined up we're gonna maybe try to finagle a

06:35:38.020 one-on-one debate if you're down uh that would be interesting uh any girls who want to be on the

06:35:42.980 show dm at whatever on instagram if you can make it to san barbara uh let me set up the redirect to

06:35:47.220 andrew guys i'm gonna send those of you who are still watching on youtube i'm gonna send you to

06:35:50.660 andrew's channel uh spam oh sevens in the chat give me just one sec to get that set up here for andrew

06:35:56.740 who uh and if you guys uh while you're over there go subscribe to his channel uh i don't know if you

06:36:02.980 have that um thank you thank you ladies for coming out tonight understand that it is my job to give

06:36:08.340 ideological pushback i take none of this personally and i appreciate all of you coming in this fine

06:36:13.780 evening thank you for having us thank you a little wholesome moment what are we a little wholesome

06:36:19.300 moment there that's what are we what are we so awesome what are we so good let me excuse me one

06:36:26.100 sec let me uh what do we see if i can the crucible what do we wow what do we uh it's andrew versus

06:36:35.220 whatever correct andrew okay i'm going to save that so those of you on youtube you'll redirect to

06:36:43.700 his channel um let me see what else uh guys go drop when you head over there give him a sub guys

06:36:49.780 give him a sub there's his channel uh the fastest grown debate channel on youtube blood sports debater

06:36:59.940 and uh i'm trying to think is there anything else what do we know i think what do we i feel like i'm

06:37:06.820 forgetting something are we forgetting you never introduced your sex doll oh too bad yeah that's

06:37:12.740 probably what you feel like you're forgetting too bad um he did he said he said kiki was back there

06:37:18.500 being quiet something like that anyways guys oh sevens in the chat good night guys thank you so much

06:37:22.740 for tuning in we'll see you uh sunday good night guys what are we

06:37:42.740 great day one more

06:37:59.080 first of all

06:38:04.400 you

06:38:12.740 Thank you.

06:38:42.740 Thank you.

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