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00:03:51.820 said and without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us

00:03:56.340 your name age location and occupation go ahead hello my name is bobby lavender i'm 30 years old

00:04:02.920 just turned 30 okay all right i live in louisiana i'd rather not say what part particularly um i am

00:04:11.220 wait what was the questions again name age location and occupation oh that part um i've been oh sorry

00:04:19.060 i've been on only fans for like four years now basically since pandemic and i also that's full

00:04:26.940 time and i part-time cam model on my free cams and you're 30 right how long have you been involved

00:04:34.640 uh with the uh adult content stuff since i moved out at 19 okay so for most of your working life then

00:04:42.520 yeah i've not well my first ever job before i was even 18 i was a janitor oh okay and i sold drawfish

00:04:50.440 too it's louisiana you know like a janitor for a school or an office okay an office like it was

00:04:56.920 actually a pest control office okay what about you hi i am tavia i'm 22 and i'm from pennsylvania

00:05:07.060 and i'm a freelance model and i do only fans all right welcome what about you hi my name is alissa

00:05:15.140 i'm 27 and i'm a realtor in austin and i have a bunch of like side hustles too like grocery delivery

00:05:21.620 nannying stuff like that all right what about you my name is sky i'm from san diego california

00:05:27.420 and i'm an environmental health specialist age i'm 24 all right environmental health specialist what's

00:05:36.600 that um so i am like a health inspector but i don't do food inspections i do like chemical inspections

00:05:44.460 so okay so what like a typical day on the job are you just going to different locations doing

00:05:51.980 inspections making sure there's not like any uh sulfuric acid yeah that they're not going to blow

00:05:58.680 up uh on a given any given day so yeah all right what about you i'm juliette i am from denver

00:06:08.300 colorado i'm 38 and i work in marketing all right welcome i'm corinne i'm 45 years old i live in west

00:06:16.580 hollywood and i am a writer comedian and podcaster okay maddie you can introduce my name is madison

00:06:26.020 i'm 19 years old i'm from san diego i now live in santa barbara i work for the whatever podcast

00:06:33.320 and i'm a student at santa barbara city college all right welcome everybody uh so guys sorry we were

00:06:40.640 a little late there we had uh two uh we had some people flake and then we had the no show uh just

00:06:47.940 i could get into the details of the bullshittery that you got to deal with behind the scenes but

00:06:53.300 anyways so we're down down about two seats but it's all good we have a very fantastic panel

00:06:57.820 regardless so going around the table once more what's everybody's current relationship status

00:07:03.120 are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex

00:07:08.860 cold harem whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest

00:07:13.900 relationship you've ever been in starting with you i'm in a relation i'm in a monogamous

00:07:19.780 ish relationship now for three years and um i'm so addd the longest well this is my longest

00:07:31.600 relationship long okay this is your longest and you said it's open ish what does that mean

00:07:36.800 well since i like create content sometimes i collab and i'm also pretty open like in the right

00:07:45.500 circumstances with the right boundaries sorry with the right circumstances and with the right

00:07:51.400 boundaries and like communication like i'm also okay with my man seeing other people or us having

00:07:58.080 like three swims in order okay so you you're saying like when you shoot content you'll shoot content with

00:08:05.400 other men i've only done with other men four times and it was for a only four times only four times it

00:08:11.960 was for a company like a mainstream company and that's the first time i ever tried that and i

00:08:16.720 i will not be doing it again okay and then like necessarily a bad experience it's just not for me

00:08:23.440 and then outside of work are you uh like are you sleeping with other men outside of work oh no i don't want

00:08:32.980 to but your boyfriend he's sleeping with other women no he isn't i mean one time um my friend and it was

00:08:41.820 cool but um it's not like a regular you're gonna leave that up forever nick or what i'm hearing

00:08:47.560 some static uh it's not terrible okay hold on pull up the chat please yeah pull up the chat

00:08:58.640 uh guys are do you guys hear any uh like audio issues or anything you guys hearing any audio issues

00:09:07.720 let's see if i can

00:09:09.400 nick did you turn off three comments are wild

00:09:17.740 uh

00:09:19.720 okay people are saying

00:09:27.780 hold on the chat is saying that there's static

00:09:34.040 one sec guys we're just going to troubleshoot this audio thing so

00:09:45.500 uh can my mods just message me and tell me if you guys are hearing static it stopped maybe it was 0.99

00:09:57.700 from fucking this thing i'm fucking i got it i got a goddamn 1.00

00:10:01.240 the culprit is that like a tesla thing 0.99

00:10:03.480 wait you want to test it it's what are this it's called a tesla coil or it's a uh plasma

00:10:08.980 yeah i think it's plasma i think the plasma was like 0.95

00:10:12.560 here let me move that shit away from my mic 0.98

00:10:15.540 okay it should be better pull up the chat let me just double 1.00

00:10:20.780 wait hold on let's do a little test let me put the shit right next to the fucking 0.99

00:10:25.580 did you guys hear that oh wait i don't know if that's i don't 0.99

00:10:30.960 is it worse now okay i don't know i don't hear whatever anyways uh i forgot where we were

00:10:37.040 i was talking to you about um

00:10:39.240 uh yeah so you are open like seeing other guys

00:10:44.180 i'm not seeing any other guys i'm more interested in my like my relationship with my man i don't want

00:10:50.340 to see other guys but i'm bisexual so i like seeing other women my preference for collabs is

00:10:56.000 other women like i said when i'm like orchestrating it myself it's always other women or trans women

00:11:00.920 and then the only time i did with men was for a

00:11:04.680 main okay and is he seeing he's not seeing anyone like i said we're monogamish

00:11:10.680 there's certain circumstances so you guys have threesomes

00:11:13.540 we actually haven't had that yet oh i thought you mentioned something about threesomes

00:11:19.900 i would be cool with it yeah did anybody else hear that yeah i said like i well no i think i

00:11:26.360 mentioned it earlier but i would be cool with it we plan on doing it you haven't had we actually

00:11:32.420 live like kind of in the middle of nowhere louisiana so we have to travel to like make

00:11:36.340 work like to for me okay what about you um i'm talking to someone right now talking stage

00:11:46.960 my longest relationship was a year um what am i missing how long have you uh how long has the

00:11:54.000 talking stage been going on uh almost three months now three months okay and before that were you uh

00:12:03.060 did you consider yourself single or before that yeah i've been single for since november

00:12:10.640 so a few months now okay so

00:12:13.140 sal brian sarva donated 69 dollars as always maddie is a 10. welcome back helmet girl brian i'm happy

00:12:24.240 you're using the old intro where you introduce yourself it flows nicely and much more elegant

00:12:30.140 hello ladies i don't know if i ever stopped doing yeah you did stop i noticed what do you mean i

00:12:35.340 stopped like lately you weren't saying i forgot no i changed i so i changed it a little bit

00:12:41.800 but but it wasn't i'm pretty sure well uh in any case thank you man appreciate the uh tts thank you

00:12:49.140 dude uh salut so you were saying you've been single for since november november okay uh talking

00:12:57.660 stage three months how did you guys meet uh we met in miami into the mic kindly you guys met in

00:13:04.940 miami uh so in person it wasn't like from a dating app or anything like that in person okay and so

00:13:11.300 and remind me you live also in miami or in pennsylvania oh pennsylvania so this is a long distance

00:13:18.460 talking stage so how often do you see him uh it really depends on like what my work schedule looks

00:13:26.980 like but i try to see him at least once a month maybe i'll just come to la for like a week or two

00:13:33.060 when's the last time you saw him uh about a month ago okay one month ago and do you want this to be

00:13:41.260 more than a talking stage have you guys had like a convo about title or anything yeah we're just getting

00:13:47.020 to know each other and taking it wait so yeah you have had a conversation about title

00:13:51.840 um yeah but we're just getting to know each other and like we're just in that stage right now like

00:13:59.700 going on dates seeing what's up who initiated that conversation about what is this title him or you

00:14:06.460 uh neither i think it's just been like mutual like just talking getting to know each other and

00:14:12.980 but you said there was a conversation about what is this are we boyfriend girlfriends i guess it was

00:14:20.080 me it was you and then you said we're just seeing where things are going well i was saying i was

00:14:27.880 interested but i just want more time to kind of you do or he does me i do so then why did you ask

00:14:33.820 for a title i didn't ask for a title but you had the conversation right the potential of it and that

00:14:39.740 i'm interested in going forward what did he say when you brought that up he was interested as well

00:14:44.960 he was interested in like being boyfriend and girlfriend using each other okay well okay see each

00:14:53.000 other and seeing where it goes so so you said i want did you say anything like i want something more

00:14:59.020 serious um no oh okay so how specifically did you phrase this conversation well it's kind of

00:15:10.360 complicated because i was like okay i really like you and was impulsive and i was like i think we

00:15:15.100 should date and then i went home and i was like oh that was impulsive and i want i need more time to

00:15:20.840 like get to know you so let's actually go backwards backwards spend more time

00:15:25.980 okay meets the rush titles you're so young right so i mean kind of sounds like you want a little bit

00:15:40.740 more than he does would you is that fair to say i don't know i think it's definitely equal it's

00:15:50.080 definitely equal it's an equal but it's more of me like me being hesitant like not being completely

00:15:54.720 sure yet if i want that yet so okay what about you um so technically i'm legally separated but i

00:16:04.340 consider myself single so you're legally married then yes okay well but no actually i'm legally

00:16:08.900 separated uh like i moved from the house so like when i filed taxes and stuff it's but you're not

00:16:15.100 divorced no but soon you're you're in the process of getting a divorce but you're still

00:16:20.220 not yet divorced right uh so and is this a pretty recent occurrence okay so um sort of i mean i

00:16:30.520 officially filed in february um i wanted out of my marriage the last several years and made it very

00:16:36.580 obvious but texas will not finalize divorces when you're pregnant and i was pregnant for two years in a 1.00

00:16:40.760 row so then i had to like recover and everything i in december is when i was like okay i'm getting

00:16:46.900 out of here one way or another and i didn't get the money to do so until february and then i moved

00:16:51.700 out in march but he's just like dodged being served and which is crazy because he's like he's seeing

00:16:58.120 somebody and i've talked to people since and stuff um so i don't know why his girlfriend is not like

00:17:04.020 sign the papers but yeah and wait so how long uh when did you meet him at what age did you meet him

00:17:11.520 i was 22 and you're 27 currently is correct yes so you were uh how long are you married for

00:17:18.380 three years three years so you were dating for like two years got married and how old are your kids

00:17:26.540 one and two one and two okay and why uh you you're you initiated the divorce or yes okay why um

00:17:38.200 so i have to be a little bit careful just because we do have children and i don't want to ever like

00:17:44.940 negatively impact their view of their dad should he ever decide to have a relationship with them 0.95

00:17:50.260 um but you know he i'm i know everybody thinks they know a narcissist any asshole is not a narcissist 0.83

00:17:58.780 they have a very specific playbook and i'm i believe and my therapist believes though she can't

00:18:07.280 like officially diagnose someone who's not her client that he has npd so all of the things associated

00:18:12.020 with that were were issues okay but i just don't want my kids to ever watch this maybe one day and then

00:18:19.280 be like you know because if they can have a good relationship with him i would like to protect

00:18:23.260 them from all that um in terms of the custody of the children do you guys share or are they just

00:18:29.920 with you or when i filed for divorce he stopped having anything to do with him

00:18:33.540 six thousand nine hundred and sixty nine blah blah blah sixty nine donated sixty nine dollars

00:18:41.320 yep my sprinkler be like oh that's a different one there you go look at that she's doing the look at 0.99

00:18:48.700 that's when i motorboat empty gold teeters it be like a

00:18:52.540 wow that's good that thank you man appreciate it oh we got another one coming in big labia 1.00

00:19:00.760 disrespect a donated sixty nine dollars never argue with stupid people they will drag you down to 0.99

00:19:07.200 their level and then beat you with experience that's true andrew shave your arms madison wink into 1.00

00:19:13.660 the camera bobby show us your armpit hair who the hell yeah you can't you can okay i just had to 0.94

00:19:21.620 oh oh okay there you go um nice okay donated one hundred dollars i think one person identified as 0.98

00:19:30.500 bisexual to the panel would you consider being with a man who is bisexual if not why not yeah we'll go 0.99

00:19:37.760 around on this really quick uh would you be with a man who's bisexual yes and i have

00:19:41.880 uh i'm bisexual and no uh so if no why not uh no because i don't know i just feel like if someone's 1.00

00:19:53.720 sticking their dick in someone's butt and then come and have sex with me then it'll probably cause 1.00

00:19:59.480 problems now what's worse though being on the receiving end or being what is it the top or bottom 1.00

00:20:05.620 yeah the pitcher and the catcher so but you're what's interesting it's actually interesting here

00:20:11.420 you're you're by yourself right a little bit of a double standard don't you think maybe but i don't 0.98

00:20:18.020 do anal lol paladins donated sixty nine dollars oh wow you let him hit it raw you didn't have 0.96

00:20:25.520 second thoughts now you're a single mom now you're a single mom song related to guests of course it's a 0.99

00:20:31.560 song okay thank you i did let my husband hit it raw that's true it's very true the husband yeah the

00:20:37.640 husband husband that i've been with for two years before we had kids okay uh thank you lol paladins

00:20:43.280 wait so what if he was he was not putting his p in the a but he was getting d in the b

00:20:50.960 that's the same thing because you're you said i wouldn't do it because i don't want a guy who's

00:21:00.820 putting his p in the a but what if he's getting d in the b does that change anything

00:21:10.360 um uh i don't know i don't know no comment no comment so no to both then if the guy's bi

00:21:21.480 just no no but you're bi no why i guess it's different but it's interesting what about you

00:21:26.980 no i would not be with a bisexual man yes i have been before okay uh oh why why not for you i want

00:21:34.400 a man who wants everything that i am um and yeah it's just no i want a man who's a masculine man

00:21:42.220 and attracted to women what if he's a masculine man and attracted to women on the weekends he

00:21:48.820 beaten cheeks donated 69 dollars thank you ladies i'm in my soft guy ear of the drizzle drizzle dude

00:21:56.460 whoever makes 500k a year own a home have a car pays for the first date and will pay my bills along

00:22:03.220 with my seasonal suits holler at me drizzle drizzle drizzle drizzle i'll do that for you

00:22:08.400 my husband literally made 500k a year if you can't lay it down it's a no i love hard pass do you

00:22:13.200 have a romantic interest in beaten cheeks oh i have no idea but i'm just saying like if he makes five

00:22:18.120 i don't care how much no we don't care how much because my husband made 500k and i still divorced

00:22:22.560 him still still divorced wait no i thought i wanted that from the woman and no yeah that's how it 0.90

00:22:27.600 oh he wants it he wants cheeks i didn't know that's uh all right okay he wants to be a sugar

00:22:34.600 he's in a soft guy yeah you want to be a stay-at-home dad well come over and you know sit

00:22:41.260 on my lap would you be with a bi guy i have no judgment about it but i personally would not

00:22:46.600 i have in the past i didn't know they were until much later but it didn't bother me

00:22:51.760 okay it's all the same to me no absolutely no okay all right there you go there you go uh we

00:22:58.800 were talking a little bit about your marriage slash divorce now i'll actually just pull up my

00:23:05.220 notes here really quick actually you know what we'll come back to it but your position is that

00:23:10.160 your soon-to-be ex-husband he is was a narcissist is that correct okay um and uh have you so how long

00:23:21.620 have you guys been separated um so he left the house in february which is when i filed and the

00:23:30.860 last time we had any contact was maybe early march like he was still trying to get me back january

00:23:37.300 february and like into march a little bit um but you moved out in february no i moved out in march

00:23:42.700 i filed for divorce in february but how long were you checked out for

00:23:46.500 the whole marriage like two years i tried to file for divorce during my first pregnancy

00:23:51.720 oh wow okay and so have in terms of dating though have you been uh dating at all yeah i was seeing

00:23:59.840 one guy for a little bit and um he's just too young i saw your instagram story last night it didn't work

00:24:05.260 out um but i'm not like talking to anybody really right now we're just gonna ignore that uh wait what

00:24:10.260 did i put on there i don't know you were i guess you guys got into santa barbara early and you're

00:24:13.960 like oh there's a lot of tall attractive guys oh my god there is here in santa barbara tall guys

00:24:18.640 with glasses oof okay uh you guys get lucky last night no i don't have like casual hookups okay uh

00:24:26.660 so have you had like any uh like a short-term thing with any guys yeah yeah yeah after my husband i

00:24:35.700 started dating a comedian dude yeah yeah and he was a year younger no not a rebound not a rebound

00:24:41.580 was there a rebound no no rebound no no it's just someone that i met through a mutual friend and i

00:24:47.420 was like oh i really like you but now does your husband does he pay child support he has well okay

00:24:52.620 so he's not going to be legally ordered to until we go to court okay so that's in the works it's in

00:24:57.720 the works but he has not for okay the first month when i was still at the house and he still thought

00:25:02.940 maybe i would stay and like change my mind he was sending them like me like a hundred dollars a

00:25:06.580 week so brian savah donated sixty nine dollars i would ask maddie's coom off of frankie's d just 0.64

00:25:13.800 to know how she tastes why did you know it's already read out it's uh too late i missed it all right

00:25:19.640 y'all crazy bro y'all crazy okay um yeah so he was sending like a hundred dollars for

00:25:32.860 wait how much how much does he make a year five hundred thousand dollars 0.87

00:25:36.220 did you guys have a prenup no no prenup no but i mean like honestly in texas the men are pretty

00:25:43.820 protected or whoever makes the most money or owned a home first like there's protections in place

00:25:48.800 there anyway were you making any money while you guys were together yes okay in real estate yeah

00:25:55.160 you also did you do dancing too were you a dancer not while i was married i was a dancer in my young

00:26:00.760 adult life but not ever at any point when i was with my husband not with him okay uh and so

00:26:08.000 no prenup you guys are getting divorced is he i don't know if how this works in texas but

00:26:14.400 does he have to do you have a lawyer i do does he have to pay for your lawyer um we're gonna request

00:26:20.560 it you're gonna request and he's gonna have to pay back child support from the time that i left

00:26:24.700 since he hasn't sent any except the first month he hasn't sent the money talk to them are there

00:26:30.760 child support minimums there are yeah the maximum would be 2300 for two kids and i'm assuming given

00:26:38.760 that he makes 500 000 he's probably obligated to pay the maximum is that correct yes okay it's good

00:26:45.800 that they have a maximum though i suppose uh so uh okay so you've been kind of dating a little bit

00:26:54.820 here and there you're in the process of getting divorced and we'll get into some of the details

00:26:58.980 of the relationship a little bit later on what about you i am single i've always been single

00:27:04.460 always been single always been single but uh i had like an e-relationship for like three days

00:27:13.120 to those who know they know okay what is an e-relationship so you never met in person no we

00:27:23.960 never met in person we were talking on discord for like three years you know what he looks like

00:27:28.980 or was it just like an anime no i know exactly what he looks like it wasn't ai generated wait you guys

00:27:33.620 were like dating for three years for three days oh three days yeah we had been talking for three

00:27:39.740 years friends damn that's a lot of i don't know man that sounds like a lot of work it was a lot of

00:27:49.420 work and i had to put in like he was he was broke bro you sent the money no i didn't send him money 0.93

00:27:57.060 oh okay but he was so why did it only last for three days um the reason why was because i had been

00:28:05.940 acting a little bit crazy because i had gone on shrooms and i took like way too many shrooms

00:28:11.740 uh went to a psych ward uh word um then i was having like i don't know how to describe it but i was

00:28:26.100 having really bad like uh expression of myself like i was saying things out of turn and i think

00:28:37.500 it became too much for him and so wait did you get 51 50'd what the what's that uh three day

00:28:44.180 it's a three day 51 50 yeah involuntary uh psychiatric hold yeah i like blew the doors off

00:28:52.820 the ambulance damn with with a firearm with my hands like wait what no like i blew the doors open 0.72

00:29:01.080 and okay so wait were you just on shrooms yeah i was just on shrooms but i drugs kids don't do drugs 0.98

00:29:08.580 uh you know it's not the um you had that special ed strength no but i took like so this comedian had

00:29:17.400 given me a bunch of shrooms and i just took them all at once because i thought you know the universe

00:29:23.780 was pointing point pointing me towards donated 69 dollars yeah thank you i make 450k yearly but you

00:29:32.960 have to pay me to lay it down word if you want to dm me you need to send one thousand dollars via

00:29:39.200 kashap first i'm not trying to be with a brookie show me a bank he's not trying to be with a brookie

00:29:45.440 drizzle drizzle dude what's that being cheeks i'm sure you'd love that chris brown song it's like 0.99

00:29:52.580 fuck what how's it go you know uh these hos ain't loyal how's it go uh you just said it 1.00

00:29:58.440 what what no but what's the uh the lyric it's like wait something about broke bitches anybody know 1.00

00:30:06.720 the lyrics to that bitch rich but i don't date but i don't fuck with broke bitches there we go madison 1.00

00:30:12.820 she knows the lyrics she's a chris brown fan um all right so thank you be in cheeks appreciate it 1.00

00:30:18.540 so okay let's okay you you did some shrooms cool yeah get it freaked out psychiatric hold

00:30:28.020 committed to a psych hospital uh do you take any um any medication for like oh yeah i guess yeah i'm

00:30:37.160 on mood stabilizers now and anti-anxiety stuff so well i've been any psychotropic antidepressants

00:30:44.540 not uh not psychotropic okay okay i think that would just exacerbate any have you been diagnosed

00:30:51.760 with anything like uh bipolar no nothing like that okay so in terms of your relationship though you

00:30:58.440 said you've been single your entire life yeah and you're 24 so what's i guess the longest period of

00:31:03.820 time like have you ever dated somebody in person um not really have you been on a date yeah i've been

00:31:10.640 on dates what have you been on multiple dates with the same person um yeah i would say uh i've been

00:31:18.000 on like five dates with one person but it was a rebound situation i was the rebound and he wasn't

00:31:23.200 looking for a relationship okay so what's the longest period of time you've seen a guy was it that guy

00:31:33.180 five date guy yeah it was the five date guy and that was like what a month it was like three months

00:31:38.160 but he still talks to me he he tries to still to smash yeah still tries to smash okay still tries

00:31:46.320 to smash so single your whole life your longest thing was three months um and so have you done like

00:31:54.540 more casual type stuff like casual hookups yeah okay for the most part not all right but and are you

00:31:59.920 desirous of something more serious something long term yes i'm waiting until marriage for what 0.96

00:32:06.400 to have sex yeah for sex are you a virgin no don't you think that ship has sailed you can decide at 0.98

00:32:14.680 any time i can you can decide i can read like because okay i feel like anytime a girl starts having sex 0.99

00:32:23.400 it's like i don't know that's just an experience x4x blasi donated 69 dollars ladies you're out in

00:32:34.680 open sea on a raft would you rather have a man with you or a great white shark circling you

00:32:39.880 uh okay starting with you go ahead bobby

00:32:43.560 open sea on the raft obviously i would like to be with a man or a great white shark

00:32:50.440 random man it's a random man

00:32:53.640 um yeah man man's great a man obviously a random man it's not so obvious i would take a random man

00:33:04.800 yeah definitely a dude man okay uh so going back to this yeah um so so you're you're waiting until

00:33:11.800 are you religious a little i've been reading the bible a lot more recently okay do you do you have

00:33:18.820 a denomination a christian i mean like are you protestant orthodox catholic okay i have a question

00:33:27.140 if that's okay okay so you're not a virgin no i'm not a virgin but now you want to wait until marriage

00:33:33.480 um yeah for the most part okay you do realize that doing that you're setting yourself up for failure

00:33:40.040 right because you don't know what you're getting into you don't know if you have any sexual chemistry

00:33:44.760 you're gonna get with this dude and find out that he's not tooting your own well so the i believe that

00:33:52.260 you can like teach people and you're in favor of teaching people you said it outside teach the young

00:33:56.740 ones so that's true same concept so i yeah definitely if someone my main concern now is a relationship and

00:34:04.400 not like i was willing and i am willing now as i've gotten older to like put sex on the back burner

00:34:11.140 and i don't think a lot of women are willing to do that um you don't think sex is an important

00:34:16.540 component no i definitely do but question if the guy has a schmeckle and it's not able to get you know 0.98

00:34:23.460 get you off then what i mean i've been masturbating my whole life so right so that means you're going to 0.99

00:34:29.060 be with the dude you're going to marry a guy spend the rest of your life with him masturbating no 0.99

00:34:32.760 well then so that's what i'm saying is truly based on love then i mean and sex is wait okay wait i 0.98

00:34:40.280 don't know yet if waiting until marriage includes all sexual acts banana lover 123 donated 69 dollars 0.61

00:34:49.360 like i don't panels have been awful lately and this looks like another horrible one where is andrew

00:34:54.660 he's the only thing making this show interesting lately sounds like somebody has a crush right

00:35:00.520 stop projecting a little crush andrew's gonna be doing a call in a little bit later on uh he will

00:35:06.940 be calling in but if uh it's popping right now we're just getting warmed up relax take a chill

00:35:13.560 if i mean you're welcome to honestly you're welcome to unsubscribe from the channel like i don't give a

00:35:20.380 fuck okay um we had some flakes it is what it is dude uh we had no shows so uh back to what i was 0.96

00:35:28.000 saying i don't know if waiting until marriage includes all sexual acts so i would know based on 0.99

00:35:34.120 certain things like second base if he's but size is like not the concern like i know sex is very

00:35:43.360 important okay i've known but it's not the priority for me right now size matters when it's size matters

00:35:53.220 when it's a micro for sure if you're with any audio no she is i'm good i'm still checking wait okay i don't

00:36:00.540 know what is going on but okay um i mean would you be with a guy who has a micro a micro peen i mean

00:36:11.660 shit exactly you'd probably know i have already been yeah how it looks how it looks how it yeah here let 0.99

00:36:20.080 me ask you a question uh so you've had sex already yeah but now you're waiting until marriage uh can i ask 1.00

00:36:29.200 like have you had a one night stand no you've never slept with a guy the same night you met him no

00:36:34.740 uh second night third um most of my hookups have been from dating apps so i probably like third night

00:36:46.380 third night okay i mean and do you want to date a christian guy i'm not really picky um it says in

00:36:55.540 the bible that like if you date someone or like you marry someone that has faith then you're saved

00:37:02.200 and if uh like a man or a woman it doesn't matter have you been so have you been celibate for a while

00:37:08.020 yeah how long have you been celibate for uh right now uh two years and then previously i did another

00:37:16.500 two years before i met the five dates guy all right well it's not the worst i've heard but uh and

00:37:23.240 look you're if a woman had previously slept with 100 men on the first date and she decides after

00:37:31.600 doing that that she wants to wait until she's married to have sex with her what would be her 1.00

00:37:37.900 101st partner that's her prerogative from the guy's perspective if i were to be advising like a male 1.00

00:37:47.380 friend if that would be an acceptable dynamic she's she can do it i would just tell him you

00:37:53.760 shouldn't date her so are you seeing it women are welcome to switch up you could have been doing sex 1.00

00:38:01.040 work only fans sleeping with a new guy every single day of the week you can switch up and be like well

00:38:06.580 i'm going to wait until marriage now but you're you're able to do it but men are also allowed to feel

00:38:14.560 like that's kind of a raw deal and this is not a woman that i want to pursue yeah i mean i can

00:38:19.560 totally understand that especially from the perspective of like if i'm with a guy that's

00:38:23.580 like actually like good for me and i'm holding out or withholding sex from him then he might not be

00:38:31.620 as enthused by it but salu brian sarva donated 69 brian banana lover boy is wrong what separates you

00:38:42.180 from fnf and other dating podcasts is whatever isn't ratchet and unprofessional keep up the good

00:38:48.300 work bricks sometimes maddie eight eight eight eight eight eight eight guys roasted rope boom roasted

00:38:56.000 all right thank you man i think we're gonna we are now gonna boost the uh tts trigger back up to the

00:39:03.020 normal so that should be switched uh appreciate all of you guys who sent some in the trigger should be

00:39:10.860 bumped back up so go ahead with your point i definitely believe that like okay so i am willing

00:39:18.720 to compromise on the waiting until marriage but it's really situation based um it's not something

00:39:25.880 it's something that i recently came to terms with like after the shrooms it's been within the past like

00:39:30.860 four months that i was like okay i feel like i want to wait until marriage but that's um

00:39:36.340 something that i'm willing to like compromise on or kind of well it's it's more so me just

00:39:44.740 enforcing a boundary that i haven't enforced before of saying okay i want to withhold or wait to have

00:39:51.260 sex with people before so that i can feel chemistry with them and not convolute it with sex because sex 0.69

00:39:56.840 will convolute any chemistry that you have and it'll ruin the potential of a good relationship can i ask you

00:40:02.460 question what if there was a scenario where you meet a guy and could you imagine a scenario where

00:40:08.220 for example you meet a guy that he's not inclined to wait until marriage but let's say you do have sex

00:40:14.740 with him he really likes you you guys get into a long-term relationship you guys end up dating for

00:40:19.580 one or two years sex is great you guys love each other monogamous relationship he now ends up proposing

00:40:27.420 to you you guys get married you get the man okay so like a great but so but by let's say in this

00:40:37.340 scenario he knows exactly what he's looking for in a relationship and that's a sexual relationship

00:40:43.340 okay and that would potentially close the door on a guy who would could otherwise end up being your

00:40:50.180 future husband life partner any thoughts on that like i said i'm willing to compromise so if it's

00:40:59.660 really important to him then i'm expecting him to communicate that to him to me like i really need

00:41:06.140 sex in a relationship and i would completely understand that and i would sympathize with it

00:41:11.900 because i'm like i am someone who wants sex too but i'm also someone who in the past has made

00:41:18.200 irresponsible decisions when i was younger and i didn't want i don't want to like so you would

00:41:23.580 like to wait until marriage but if presented with an attractive enough partner you would

00:41:30.360 does that sound like can i can i make that decision is that like greedy or what it sounds selfish

00:41:37.760 okay but everyone's selfish i think you're totally valid does anybody what what is what's the panel's

00:41:45.380 thoughts on the whole like well you've had sex with 20 people i'm not saying that's the case for 0.83

00:41:50.220 you but you've had sex 20 30 40 people first night second night third night then prince charming comes 0.99

00:41:56.780 along and oh hold on i gave it to the fuck boys right instantly but the guy who's actually ought to be 1.00

00:42:04.100 deserving of sexual access you get to wait your thoughts on that panel go ahead i think that anybody 0.99

00:42:11.540 is can change like drug addicts get sober all the time people get saved and sure so i think people

00:42:16.920 can genuinely decide uh i'm going to be reborn in one way or another and that's valid but um if the

00:42:23.740 partner comes along and he can't respect her boundaries on that then he's not meant for her to begin with

00:42:28.720 it's an incompatibility issue at that point and you will find somebody who will respect that and you

00:42:34.120 shouldn't just let you shouldn't just let anybody make you change your mind on what you morally think

00:42:40.240 is right yeah and a man who is prince charming won't try to force you to yeah that's just my take

00:42:47.380 and i don't think it's about i don't think he would force her he would just uh just walk out he would

00:42:52.800 just he's entitled to do that good good uh any thoughts from you i agree sir i think we're just all

00:43:00.980 very sexual beings especially men and i mean that's a pretty hard that's a hard sell i think for most

00:43:08.700 guys but i do see like i like this is totally a valid point and that's what i was going to say

00:43:15.300 first is that like people can change and like my promiscuity used to be higher and now i really don't

00:43:22.360 have a desire for men can confirm at all besides mine right women obviously different story but 1.00

00:43:31.760 like i'm not saying that women shouldn't change for the better can't change for the better but

00:43:37.200 it's like don't expect men to accept your past because we also have a right of discernment and

00:43:44.540 judgment just as you do so that's totally fair too and i mean i can see why it seems weird but

00:43:51.580 it's also like i'm not gonna judge i'm not as judgmental of the guy if he's made a decision

00:43:58.440 whatever decision like informed by his past experiences at least from the male perspective

00:44:07.520 it's one thing like if she's a virgin or like that's always been her standard right maybe not

00:44:14.960 like the marriage thing but she's like okay well i want to wait until we're in like a serious long-term

00:44:19.380 relationship she's only been with one two three other guys that she always waited like one two three 0.97

00:44:25.120 months before having sex but i think it's just like the switch up of like the shifting in values

00:44:30.540 because i think one of the concerns that might be the case maybe not marriage but let's say a girl 0.89

00:44:36.320 wants to wait three months to have sex it's like okay did you do that for the last guy and then

00:44:42.480 what about the guy that's gonna probably be after me yeah because like that's the that's the crazy

00:44:47.040 thing is like when a girl's like oh i want to i've got a 60 day rule and then like they've never 1.00

00:44:53.520 enforced it but they've never enforced can i say something really quick i actually have a friend who

00:44:58.180 just even with her boyfriend her current boyfriend um like they've hooked up plenty of times and then she

00:45:04.140 was like you know what i'm gonna go back to jesus and they're both very attractive people he's a very

00:45:08.620 attractive guy and he's actually respecting her going celibate oh wait so they're they were dating

00:45:13.620 yes oh this is interesting they are still dating i've heard about this a little bit but okay so

00:45:17.880 they're dating they were dating they were having sex she became religious found jesus not interesting

00:45:23.780 and then so they were having sex they're still together but then she's like let's not have sex

00:45:29.940 anymore yeah she's like morally i just feel like god's putting it on my heart to like wait until

00:45:34.080 marriage and he actually is going along with it yeah i mean i hope you i hope that's i mean

00:45:41.400 if you're watching hillary that's brave if is he intending to marry her how long they've been together

00:45:45.920 oh i don't know like maybe a year they live together they have a really healthy relationship

00:45:51.420 he's cheating no he doesn't i promise he's not i mean he would be a hundred i mean i don't trust

00:45:57.980 anybody but i he's not cheating on her it would be a hundred percent pretext for a breakup he would

00:46:03.080 be a hundred percent in the right to break up with yeah like if he decided he wanted to i'm not saying

00:46:06.700 it's not valid he also seems to be uh if he's okay with it i mean i suppose that's fine but

00:46:12.400 yeah i mean everybody's gonna have different standards but i don't i think it's fair if men are

00:46:17.820 like you know what i'm not cool with this but not all men are gonna be that way i've had i've actually

00:46:22.380 had one or two similar experiences to that sort of but like earlier on which has been very peculiar

00:46:29.080 so i've had like i've hooked up once twice three times with girl and then she's like ah can we like 0.85

00:46:34.660 pump the brakes can we and like that's not like that's not a good look nope just like yeah i don't know

00:46:45.040 isn't it though dependent on the guy and his tolerance well no no this is what it is this is i

00:46:51.440 this is my uh this is what i think it is in that situation is that so hooked up the girls and then 0.88

00:46:59.260 they're like oh i don't know like they still want to date me but they're like ah i feel like we moved

00:47:04.920 too quick you know i think it's that they want to they want to leverage it into a long-term relationship 0.86

00:47:12.860 but at that point the cat's out of the fucking bat and i just feel like that's way too much like 0.97

00:47:18.420 carrot on the stick it's way too much you trying to like withhold or leverage sex because it was 0.99

00:47:23.520 never we already hooked up now you want to reel it back to try to get me into a long-term relationship 0.64

00:47:30.020 so those invariably i was just like weird if it's for religious reasons i can understand it but

00:47:34.760 i mean i mean and i think everybody has a right to their own body and what they want to do but

00:47:39.140 that that situation is a little bit less like i don't understand it as much as if they have like

00:47:44.160 some moral obligation that they it makes sense to me if a woman is trying to pursue a long-term 0.99

00:47:50.160 relationship as her primary prerogative because that's how we biologically are wired we want 1.00

00:47:55.160 stability for our potential offspring and if we are making decisions based off of that like i think

00:48:06.740 most women have the sense that like if they're going to get into a long-term relationship with 1.00

00:48:10.820 somebody okay uh so anyways um let's get your relationship status i am properly single um i was

00:48:20.720 in a seven-year relationship that ended in 2020 and um yeah i've taken the last four years to work on

00:48:28.300 friendships and my business and i haven't really dated at all so so single for four years you're dating

00:48:35.940 for seven so from like uh your late 20s to mid 30s you guys were dating 38 now so yeah that ended when

00:48:44.380 i was 34 okay and is that your longest relationship you've had so you've been single for four years 0.97

00:48:50.840 you've been and you said no dating no celibate yeah for four years yes damn 0.67

00:48:58.660 all right wow okay celibate for four nothing not even a rebound no rebound no oh okay all right good

00:49:09.520 for you and uh okay why did your relationship end um there were a lot of value differences in the

00:49:18.420 beginning okay that i was aware of but i just kind of ignored um he's not a bad person but um yeah there

00:49:25.440 was some huge value discrepancies that i just kind of like turned a blind eye to and that was totally

00:49:30.340 on me and it just got to the point where i think as i continue to grow and mature as a person it was

00:49:36.420 just not it was not doable for me anymore and um i think that if there's some really big core value

00:49:42.880 differences like that's not something that like counseling or talking it out can really change

00:49:47.420 um i'm also not really interested in changing the man that i love and i want to be with

00:49:52.540 so it just got to the point where out of my out of respect for myself and for him i was like

00:49:57.060 this is not how i want to live the rest of my life and you know while i still have some youth and

00:50:01.860 fitness and looks and health i'd like to like find someone who is who's right for me so so did you end

00:50:08.140 things i did okay all right and so okay single for four years ended things in person or was it like a

00:50:19.560 text message oh definitely in person we were living together later okay got it yeah what about you i'm

00:50:25.300 married for 10 years and uh i'm proud to say actually that i married my first or no not first

00:50:31.860 one he was a one night one night stand so i married a one night stand he was supposed to be a one night 0.99

00:50:36.620 stand and it turned into a 10-year relationship so oh there you go was he a tender no he was a person

00:50:42.700 i met in real life wait so married for 10 years but how long were you together before uh married

00:50:48.400 um about a year and a half okay so together for about like 11 12 years yeah okay got it we're

00:50:54.700 coming on 12 years together all right and he was a one night stand how did you get you guys met at the

00:50:59.540 club no we met in alaska we were both working up in alaska yeah okay we were selling jewelry for

00:51:06.160 different companies and here's the funny thing so this guy that i met he was the friend of a guy

00:51:13.100 who i was already hooking up with in alaska because in alaska there's very very little to do you're

00:51:17.980 working 12 to 14 hours a day and then afterwards you're drinking or fucking that's literally the 0.93

00:51:22.680 only two things to do in alaska i'm sure a lot of people are fucking the same people yeah exactly 0.85

00:51:26.460 it's a very small and the town that we were in was literally four streets wide 20 streets long 0.63

00:51:33.340 you could walk the whole town in 45 minutes what town that's why they call it eskimo um skagway

00:51:37.580 alaska so skagway yes and um there's a lot of skags that way okay well what what prompted the whole

00:51:45.560 thing was the guy who i was seeing him and i had kind of like we the attraction just wasn't there

00:51:52.140 anymore because we had hooked up the first time i'd gone up to alaska and it just fizzled out so when

00:51:56.860 we came back up we tried to reconnect again it just wasn't working so i met his friend

00:52:02.720 and and i didn't like him at first but um we had made an agreement the guy who i was with

00:52:08.500 like i'm not gonna sleep with any of your friends you don't sleep with anyone i find out he slept

00:52:12.800 with one of my friends so i had to sleep with one of his revenge is revenge so you know but it turned 0.95

00:52:19.720 into something a lot bigger than i thought and the craziest part of the story is this is crazy

00:52:24.740 i love it i was working with his mom before i met him i didn't know that it was her son when i was

00:52:32.580 dating him so come the end of the summer when we first started hooking up his mom and i are having

00:52:37.620 dinner and mind you we're really good friends and so she's like so i hear you're seeing someone and we

00:52:42.640 tried to keep it on the dl we didn't want everybody to know and uh she's i was like yeah i'm not i'm not

00:52:48.360 sure where it's going you know like hopefully you know it's something that lasts long but you know

00:52:52.560 long distance relationships we'll see we'll see she's like yeah so what are your intentions with my 0.98

00:52:56.460 son and straight up like at a movie i was like what i'm fucking my friend's son i was like oh well 0.98

00:53:04.500 she's like just be good to each other and a year and a half later we're married so it worked out now 0.98

00:53:08.880 my mother-in-law is my best friend so wait going back to you really quick and then i have a couple

00:53:13.680 questions for you sure um wait so when you're trying to divorce him was it during your first or

00:53:18.680 second second pregnancy my first oh wait hold on but you have two kids i do so wait why did you 0.53

00:53:27.480 if you're trying to divorce him during your first pregnancy why did you go and have a second kid

00:53:34.280 with him so that it's were you guys like working it out kind of or sort of um okay but i didn't exactly

00:53:40.980 choose to get pregnant again unexpected yeah good times okay yeah yeah all right we're gonna read two

00:53:50.060 chats then we're gonna get into uh some topics here uh we have bobby bobby i'm gonna have you read some

00:53:57.140 of these chats nick can you pull this up the dyslexic person okay oh you're dyslexic okay give it a shot

00:54:03.120 i believe in you oh is this one okay alissa i love those kids but can you quit being so easy on

00:54:10.380 the lorax um give the juicy stories i'll find a way to wipe the internet of this interview by the

00:54:18.040 time they're old enough to see it what is that your is that the loraxes yeah he looks like the lorax

00:54:24.160 okay so after i left um i so i haven't blocked and i had to change my number and all kinds of stuff

00:54:30.660 but my friends still look at his page because people are nosy like people are just nosy and they

00:54:36.060 send me a screenshot um of his new partner and um in that picture like my husband had literally aged

00:54:45.180 like 20 years in the course of a few months and um so there's like a side-by-side picture and

00:54:50.400 everybody called him the lorax i don't i don't know who that is or why they just said that on the

00:54:57.700 internet but um i mean you can't really help how you look so there's more important things than that

00:55:04.160 but i think it can be a reflection of like maybe you're when you stop taking care of yourself it

00:55:10.140 looks like maybe things are going downhill a little bit all right so he's the lorax because he looks

00:55:18.200 yeah they say he looks like the lorax okay uh bobby can have you read this one please

00:55:26.140 thank you bro naissance repeal the 19th amendment immediately these women have no understanding of 1.00

00:55:32.080 how men work or what we want nor do they care about what we want we need patrice o'neill back 1.00

00:55:39.480 immediately i love patrice what are you i feel like he's referring how the hell are we supposed to

00:55:47.320 know what men want we need patrice o'neill that's my boy like we're completely different like unless 1.00

00:55:54.120 people are being honest with communication we don't like i don't know what men want it's an

00:55:58.660 individual basis understanding what people generally well it just cracks me up when people say like oh

00:56:04.100 well female or oh men should be like this or female should be like this it's like females like it 1.00

00:56:09.940 doesn't everybody's different yeah we're all literally a product of a million dependent variables that are

00:56:16.460 unique to us based off of our nurture and nature and all of our unique experiences so everybody's

00:56:21.400 going to be different but for the most part it seems like men kind of have some things that we

00:56:25.600 can all say that they want and i think i don't think that we don't understand what men want i don't

00:56:31.600 think i don't know what i think i think most women don't understand what they want most women that i 0.81

00:56:36.400 know especially under under the age of 25 y'all don't know what the hell you want at all you don't know

00:56:42.440 what you want to eat for dinner you don't want to know you don't know what outfit to wear you don't

00:56:46.280 know a lot i think men mostly more than like y'all can say it's sex or whatever men want to feel

00:56:50.840 appreciated for like the work that they do and they don't want to have to read your mind they want

00:56:55.900 you to communicate what you want and if they're you know working for you providing for you they just

00:57:01.620 want to be seen and appreciated and i think in society for the most part men don't get that and

00:57:06.800 they're also not given as much freedom to be emotional and then they turn into like these

00:57:11.100 incels that like i think the biggest thing that men would probably really appreciate from women 1.00

00:57:17.000 that they don't get is women holding themselves accountable for things that's a good one too 1.00

00:57:22.340 80 of women that i know don't know about accountability they don't know how to take 1.00

00:57:26.460 accountability they don't know how to admit their own failures whether it's in relationship

00:57:30.780 exactly they can't you know you want to take away the sex because of this and that and the other

00:57:34.820 well what happened what happened what what prompted that in this in this relationship

00:57:38.940 why do you feel like you need to be the one to hold out and then you want to scream equality

00:57:43.440 like come on though like obviously there's men who can't be held accountable to like my husband would

00:57:48.000 point things out about me and i make it a point in my life to not be ruled by cognitive dissonance like

00:57:54.440 i feel like the more intelligent you are the more you know that you don't know like there's you have

00:57:58.460 blind spots in your awareness and that made me a perfect victim to narcissistic abuse because he would be

00:58:03.960 like it's you and i would reflect and i'm like was your therapist a liberal no i'm not a liberal

00:58:10.540 therapist a liberal no well who i don't did the therapist introduce narcissistic abuse into your

00:58:18.480 lexicon yes i didn't know anything about it but when i was explaining like all the experiences she

00:58:26.840 said it sounds like she's like obviously i can't diagnose someone who's not my patient can i ask you a

00:58:30.300 is do you think there's anything you did wrong in that one thousand percent like one thousand

00:58:35.020 percent all kinds of things like um i would like threaten i would threaten to leave a lot instead of 0.91

00:58:43.820 like that was my resort to stress like if it got too stressful i'm like i'm just i'm gonna fucking 0.94

00:58:48.540 leave like i don't i'm not dealing when you say leave do you mean breakup or leave as in like 0.65

00:58:52.160 physically just walk in general um and then like it's i did plenty of wrong things like yell cuss throw

00:59:01.460 things um all kinds of things like i would kind of leverage my ex a little bit in the beginning but

00:59:09.840 also i was 22 at the time wait what do you mean leverage your ex so like like your husband your

00:59:15.880 husband or like a previous yeah so my boyfriend before my husband like in the beginning when i first

00:59:20.420 started to see like the crazy shit um i didn't i don't have family in the state so the only person 0.81

00:59:25.820 that i knew was my ex and he was a couple hours away and i would call him and i'd be like come 0.99

00:59:29.960 fucking get me this guy's insane and he would start to and then like my husband would kind of like 0.94

00:59:34.760 switch it up and like cry and like beg me to stay and then i would be like call my ex and be like 0.99

00:59:39.640 never mind just go home like wait how early into the relationship did some of these

00:59:45.200 worrying things so like it's like a year in but they were more of like a codependent nature like a

00:59:54.080 um clingy obsessive like hacking my email type of stuff things like that maybe you should have a

01:00:00.960 air uh air tag in your car let's share locations type stuff and i and whatever that's fine some of

01:00:07.440 that is fine but um no it's not that's also not codependence is coercive control well yeah so i know

01:00:12.700 that now i thought it was just like maybe he has vpd or something you know and then um after i had

01:00:18.080 kids and people want to act like oh well they just lose attraction during pregnancy he was more

01:00:22.120 attracted to me when i was pregnant like and wait what yes and actually let me tell y'all something

01:00:26.580 about like the more pregnant like the more pregnant you got there's a fetish like the bigger the belly 1.00

01:00:31.140 no i okay so i used to have an only fans and i made more money during pregnancy than any other time

01:00:37.280 in my life more money than when i was like 19 years old yeah so men are into that are all women 1.00

01:00:42.380 under 25 i can you know what maybe in my head one of the reasons why a guy might like like maybe at

01:00:50.540 least early on in the pregnancy i mean you can't get pregnant twice right that's true and then there's

01:00:55.680 a biological component to it where you're reflecting fertility and you know so you could they might feel

01:01:00.980 more pair bonded to you wait what you never heard of that with like twins so you're like you can like

01:01:07.420 get pregnant once and then if you get like nutted in a second time around that time there's no watch

01:01:13.320 i've never heard of oh yeah pregnant hold on so you're a month you're a month pregnant and a guy 0.98

01:01:19.200 keeps blasting inside you you can get pregnant again re-pregnant i've never heard of this there's no 1.00

01:01:25.140 fucking way yeah there's no fucking way is this a thing nick can you google this shit i don't believe 0.99

01:01:30.100 where did you hear that it's it's happened before i know i know a lady right now i have never is this 1.00

01:01:36.400 this could be a thing i just come out at different times i don't know all the details i just know i

01:01:41.080 feel like i did see a story about a woman who got pregnant by two different men right oh and she

01:01:45.060 had a white baby and a black baby i saw that story yikes she must have had two eggs yeah it's yeah

01:01:51.040 okay sometimes okay so it doesn't exist it does happen yeah so wait hold on you can get

01:01:56.080 is it safe to pull up uh can you show me let's let's see what does that was the internet say nick 0.85

01:02:03.660 what the fuck it's extremely rare super fetation involves a person ovulating again while pregnant 0.53

01:02:11.680 uh usually prevents subsequent pregnancies once an embryo is developing because of hormonal changes 0.98

01:02:20.840 that stop ovulation however hormonal imbalances or irregular menstrual cycles could make it more 0.99

01:02:28.480 likely to happen oh shit so okay guys be careful out there boys just because she's preggers you can't 0.99

01:02:36.800 be blasting i guess i don't know all right it's something very important today shit boys okay uh okay 0.99

01:02:46.220 anyways i did not know that it's rare though it's rare so you're probably good guys he's like i could 0.87

01:02:53.560 have a kid out there uh wait so uh where were we were talking so like he what a lot of people would

01:02:58.340 say like oh it's because you had kids that ruined the relationship no it's just because we had kids

01:03:02.720 he thought she's tied down i don't have to do anything anymore you know whatever i can disappear for

01:03:09.060 11 days and her follow missing persons report on me and it's gonna be all good you know she's taking

01:03:13.140 care of two a newborn and a toddler like she doesn't have the energy to leave and then it just 0.55

01:03:17.640 you know kept the behaviors got worse and worse until so but he was more into you when you were

01:03:21.980 pregnant i mean he was always very into me talking like sexually or what are we talking yeah oh yeah

01:03:27.980 only sexually when i was pregnant i didn't get like the foot rubs or the here's some chocolate none of 0.94

01:03:31.620 that oh i wasn't even treated good giving birth actually damn i was dying and he was just like 0.79

01:03:38.720 casually eating peanuts and inviting his mom into the room there's like this meme that's going

01:03:43.240 around of a guy who it's a it's a selfie but a guy takes a photo of himself with like a pepperoni

01:03:50.840 pizza yes and then the woman i saw that is in the background giving birth to a child and like 0.99

01:03:57.140 screaming in pain yeah that's and i actually showed him that and i was like hey did you find that nick

01:04:02.260 and by the way you can eat during pregnancy don't let or during labor don't let your nurses tell

01:04:06.320 that you can't that's hospital policy policy is not law you can eat during pregnancy why would

01:04:12.020 you want to because your body's like running a marathon it's it takes a lot of energy you need

01:04:17.440 food and if you're in a long labor you're gonna be hungry did you find it nick i would think you're 0.98

01:04:23.040 nauseous while i'm trying to push something out of your vagina well you're not like in act i mean 1.00

01:04:28.000 sometimes so for me i was like dying with preeclampsia so i was there about a week oh you got it 0.99

01:04:32.520 that sucks and then got pregnant three months and later yeah did not know you could impregnate 1.00

01:04:40.620 a pregnant chick careful boys the more you know all you guys with like your pregnancy fetishes or 1.00

01:04:48.080 whatever you gotta be careful you got it uh it's hard for me to tell wait is it to us

01:04:54.980 yeah that's it i'm pretty sure go ahead pull it up 0.98

01:04:59.120 good yeah that's it uh with the jalapeno what a fucking monster it's taking the picture who cares 1.00

01:05:06.200 about like him eating during the pregnancies put fucking jalapenos on pizza what an idiot 1.00

01:05:10.340 that's sacrilegious all right uh where were we nick uh let's do twitch guys go to twitch.tv 1.00

01:05:17.880 slash whatever drops to follow drops a prime sub guys it's been 16 minutes since we've gone to prime

01:05:24.100 i think it's bugged i think something's broken on our twitch by the way we've got no ads

01:05:29.340 at least i apparently somebody told me that even if you disable ads on twitch twitch will still force

01:05:36.360 ads pre-rolls maybe so if anybody and if we are twitch viewers tell me if you get ads because i'm

01:05:41.780 pretty sure i disabled oh dark lighter think for the prime i thought it was broken nightmare think

01:05:45.660 for the prime moonshine think for the prime jesse think for the tier one strewed strewters think

01:05:50.820 for the prime appreciate it guys drop us a follow on prime sub if you have one and then also guys

01:05:54.860 like the video nick could you pull up the view count really quick i'm just hide that hide that

01:06:00.140 yeah we're testing out this other thing all right so we got a thousand watching on twitch oh that's

01:06:05.640 weird it like did it okay i gotta fix that it should be one next to the other but we got a thousand

01:06:11.300 viewers on twitch over seven thousand viewers on youtube guys drop us a like uh drop us a like on

01:06:17.480 the video please thank you nick it uh it helps with the algorithm so drop us a like guys we got that

01:06:23.960 seven thousand people watching like the video okay you can hide that nick did something fall the table

01:06:29.620 it's okay just um let it put it on the ground gently yeah we got a table malfunction here uh good times

01:06:39.440 all right cool so we're gonna go around the table ask everyone to rate their looks face body so two

01:06:47.660 ratings on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven starting with you face and body okay so i would

01:06:53.620 say face um i'm a natural 10 um what's a natural 10 i was hoping you would ask because i put a lot

01:07:01.800 of thought into it a natural 10 is like in brian's perfect utopia where women don't wear makeup don't 1.00

01:07:07.400 have botox filler and wait in my perfect utopia yeah if they don't wear makeup or botox and filler i

01:07:12.960 would like to think i was in the 10 range maybe a 9.5 in my perfect utopia yes okay a natural 10

01:07:21.080 but um in this economy may be different but body i would say

01:07:25.900 six or seven can't say seven oh yeah okay why can't we say seven i guess everybody says it maybe

01:07:35.200 what about you uh i would give my face a nine because i hate my nose yeah okay and my dad doesn't

01:07:45.660 like it either and i have his nose so it's a curse and then i'd give my body a 10 because i'm just

01:07:52.200 naturally fit i think i'm hot so somebody just asked you in total just to rate your looks

01:07:57.200 do you give yourself 9.5 or would it be a 10 9.5 okay if you gotta if you fixed your nose would it

01:08:04.860 be a 10 10 phase 10 total yeah i guess yeah show me your side profile turn that way

01:08:12.140 your nose is it looks normal your nose is fine what what's the what's the issue with it i just

01:08:18.640 hate like if i make like if someone catches me off guard and i'm like making a face or like scrunch

01:08:23.000 my nose it just looks so pointy like oh my god pointy noses are aesthetic i think i don't know

01:08:28.660 yeah yeah i think you have a cute nose thanks guys it's a good nose don't worry about the nose

01:08:34.240 you got a good nose i'll trade you i got a big i got a big nose i'll trade you the nose you want 0.81

01:08:38.120 to trade noses i'll give you my nose you i'll take yours so call it a day all right what about you

01:08:42.440 i'd say my face is a five and my body is like a nine body nine yeah face face five okay yeah i was

01:08:49.980 gonna give myself a six for face um yeah i'll say six for face and then for body a four

01:08:56.140 okay what about you say an eight uh for face body probably about an eight for both eight for

01:09:03.600 both yeah can we see the tats show us the tats hold them out like like this my solar panels what

01:09:11.200 so what's the is there a story behind the no story everyone always asks if they're like cover-ups or

01:09:17.600 something like that um i waited till i was 35 to get any tattoos at all i kind of knew who i was and

01:09:23.200 have my life together and i was like all right i feel like so you had no tattoos until you were 35

01:09:27.460 zero wow zero yeah because i mean like that's that's pretty uh intense to do like full coverage

01:09:34.080 like that right it was what do they call that is their name blackout blackout tattoo okay

01:09:38.440 their almed meatball donated two hundred dollars blondies are 10 in looks but gotta work on the 0.98

01:09:46.780 non-looks stuff rest our fives all over brian keep up the good work haven't been able to watch 0.82

01:09:53.140 in a while the room oh dude it's the meeple god mr meeple where you fucking been buddy i missed you 0.98

01:10:00.120 dude you've been gone you can follow me on good to see you in the chat dude you're a fucking legend 0.99

01:10:04.320 here let me drop this for you bro he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer you're a fucking 0.97

01:10:08.800 pioneer dude i'm it's good to see you back we missed you welcome back man uh i'd love to know 0.97

01:10:14.240 what mr meatball looks like oh he's a giga chad 10 out of 10 i'm sure cut jawline with a name like

01:10:19.920 that right yeah cut jawline huge pp i can change your mind about my rating uh okay so what about

01:10:27.460 you i'm gonna say an eight and eight i don't i don't do a lot of makeup i don't i've never put

01:10:32.480 anything in my face no botox i i hate chicks who wear fake eyelashes i i don't know i don't like the 1.00

01:10:37.900 fake stuff i don't like anything that's unnatural on your body wait so eight and eight okay madison

01:10:42.920 what about you uh face probably 6.9 if i can't say seven and body eight you're being too modest

01:10:54.180 yeah i think i could like girl you're a 10 and a 10 get stronger i think my arms are really skinny

01:10:59.180 double 10 it's the rest of your body i could kill it yeah okay so are you're the only 10 then 0.50

01:11:07.000 in brian's perfect utopia yes okay wait you said blondie oh oh okay i believe in modesty so i 0.94

01:11:15.460 didn't want to give myself yeah yeah i gotcha okay i wonder what the chat thinks about you let's find 0.98

01:11:23.020 out oh what i get uh face and fuck damn i never i just give myself a five normally but uh face body 0.98

01:11:32.040 hmm that's a tough one because i gotta lose a bit of weight right now but i think i would say 0.99

01:11:40.660 like a dumpy it makes you higher if i got the dumpy yeah it makes you higher uh i'll just say uh

01:11:49.380 he's sweating i can see it five five five face

01:11:56.420 4.5 body right now it's fair i gotta lose some weight i got a dad women love dad bonds 0.85

01:12:05.460 i promise say that but i swear to god it's not true it's not true they love personality except

01:12:11.940 that it is i've never cheated on anybody that's not bad if i was gonna cheat it would be with a dad

01:12:18.840 bod oh shit but i wouldn't date somebody who's like super muscular anyway there's this meme that's 0.67

01:12:23.960 like guys posting gym pics and the other men are like yeah bro and the women are like 0.99

01:12:28.500 don't care we like dad bods it's a thing you say it but like the behavior is the truth though

01:12:36.920 came into this room absolutely not i have a crush on jim from the office like that's

01:12:40.540 my time as a babe like heavy eric foreman would also work wow eric foreman yeah like if he was like

01:12:48.380 if he was a little thicker i had a crush on uncle joey growing up not jesse uncle joey

01:12:51.940 what did your dad look like my dad is tall and skinny you were like redheaded you're like an 0.95

01:12:58.920 italian puerto rican lady good to know good to know uh 10 really 10 don't you think it's a bit

01:13:09.380 hubris you know a little hubris well like i said it's a natural tin like say we are in a world where

01:13:16.980 there is no filler botox and like people wearing makeup because i usually don't wear makeup at all

01:13:21.260 i'm literally wearing some tinted like brow stuff and blush just so that i don't get washed out on

01:13:30.140 camera it's camera ready makeup but i usually don't not to brag but you bring it up all the time how

01:13:35.560 you prefer women that don't and i'm just saying like in that utopia world i would say that i'm a 0.89

01:13:41.820 10 and you have to also think that i'm 30 so i have like i still have my like wrinkles i'm no

01:13:48.440 she looks younger than 30 i still got my cheekbones i'll give you that i'll give you that

01:13:54.540 it's all real it's all real yes sir don't you think though like the armpit hair is gonna knock

01:14:01.440 you down like a point or two a little bit i can shave that that's like literally not a thing

01:14:04.820 can you show us one more time that's a part of her medical

01:14:07.280 we can't the mics block actually a little bit thicker this one is like my favorite one because

01:14:14.580 it's more like chat's on fire right now it's kind of cute she's get me now can you pull up those

01:14:19.280 there's ig photos too where it's a bit more it's so gross it's okay to have your preferences and i have

01:14:24.780 i mean i really just i don't have a preference for being hairy i just like i'm very low maintenance 0.85

01:14:31.000 instagrams i do is purple my hair so that's another that's a photo of you with the the armpit

01:14:36.920 hair next uh okay rocking the armpit hair you can you can uh so i want to ask the chat chat would

01:14:46.120 you like would it be a red flag would it be a deal breaker would you date a girl who has armpit hair 0.97

01:14:51.540 that's the question well you can text out those names well unshaved armpit hair wait hold on

01:14:59.740 that's like hold on that's like me saying hold on madison that's like me saying uh

01:15:04.540 uh if somebody asked you uh would you date a guy with a beard and then you're like well every guy

01:15:11.740 has a beard they just shave it no not every guy can grow a beard that's oh their armed meatball

01:15:18.540 donated two hundred dollars okay whatever armpit hair is a minus one thousand armpit hair is a

01:15:24.460 yo mr meatball i think i can shave it and i frequently do and she's plus then she's plus a

01:15:29.900 thousand now is it like what about leg hair do you shave leg hair too well i have very fine like

01:15:35.580 blonde hair and so i like you can't even tell if i have like hair it's only like doesn't it feel

01:15:42.780 like well we don't need to see that yeah i currently i currently have a bunch of scratches

01:15:46.940 and bruises because i have a bunch of kittens but um yeah i don't shave my legs what i did like once

01:15:53.100 and i did not like the prickly i don't want to like be prickly good to know good to know i look

01:15:59.740 some some women have like fine hair some women have uh fine hair so good to know i dated a guy who 0.95

01:16:06.940 loved the way my armpit smelled i don't know what that was all about but i just found it very

01:16:11.580 interesting excuse me strange but i shaved my armpits though so less stink well would you that's 0.98

01:16:19.660 fucking disgusting would you wear deodorant or is it just like natural armpit smell she wears 1.00

01:16:27.740 deodorant yeah i always wear deodorant all right guys we're going whoa that um what's the smell is 1.00

01:16:35.820 like a six doesn't smell all the way good oh shit bro you're sitting right next to her the whole 0.99

01:16:41.260 fucking show too smell like french onion soup oh from there it's just like if you like stick it in 1.00

01:16:45.740 there if you stick it in someone who was sexually compatible or like to procreate then i'm sure and 1.00

01:16:51.580 she's literally a woman with her pheromones you know oh definitely yeah there's i've known i've 1.00

01:16:56.540 definitely known people who go crazy over my smell i heard of that that's true like if you're attracted to

01:17:03.180 like yeah guys guys or something i had clients when i was a stripper who would come in and literally

01:17:09.020 just lab dance was him with his face buried in my armpit it's definitely a thing yeah 0.93

01:17:18.140 good times that's cool i want to go home

01:17:23.980 don't be king shaming that's not the weirdest thing hey don't king shame you're the one that likes

01:17:28.940 bowing come on what's wrong with that oh we'll get it's a kink that not everybody is like it's not 0.93

01:17:34.460 even a kink i don't think it's a kink that is a kink definitely everything how's the kink it's submissive

01:17:40.380 he's hella subby they're around meatball donated two hundred dollars you like some dommy mommy 0.99

01:17:44.860 shit huh nah you donated two hundred dollars and you only said one word facts bro facts okay uh wait you 0.99

01:17:52.220 why don't you think i'm i'm a sub i'm asking you think i'm a sub well i don't know the back 0.99

01:17:57.340 story to you i should be insulted no he likes you know if you like to bow that's

01:18:02.300 you're insulting i'm so no you like wait wait are you saying you like girls to bow to you yes oh 0.68

01:18:09.180 okay i thought you were saying like i don't know the back you think i'm gonna hit a bow no i don't

01:18:14.380 i could see you being a switch how i wouldn't say like this girl is already ready to pack me okay

01:18:20.380 take me home after the podcast strap it on and just right that's why that's why that's 0.99

01:18:28.620 something like that like i think i know look all this narcissist shit bullshit you were trying to 0.99

01:18:34.140 you wanted to peg your husband he wasn't down actually no he wasn't down i don't want to say 1.00

01:18:39.980 too much listen you're saying you were were you if a man was sodomizing your husband no but if a guy

01:18:48.620 was into that like if you wanted to get pegged i'd peg him i probably wouldn't date that guy but

01:18:51.980 like whatever wait didn't you say you wouldn't date a guy who's bi yeah i wouldn't um but i can

01:18:57.260 guarantee you that but you'd be fine you know i don't want to say too much you would be fine

01:19:01.740 putting a dude in doggy style and penetrating him so i've had submissives before so yeah but like i 1.00

01:19:07.020 wouldn't romantically so you're a switch then you could say well i don't know i don't like to be 0.93

01:19:11.340 fully like you're not gonna be like yeah you dirty little no you're not gonna do that to me um 0.89

01:19:14.860 um oh well that's degradation which is a part of domination well you don't have to do i guess 0.92

01:19:20.860 it just depends on the level of dominance but you could be like a gentle dom yeah for sure you

01:19:26.860 don't have to like be degrading or even do uh uh masochism or sadism or whatever

01:19:35.340 so you can just be in charge let's say but uh okay 0.99

01:19:38.620 oh the bear shit okay boys we've been talking about this man or bear conversation for a month 0.98

01:19:47.100 now now california nick pull up the art the page the google page boys there was a bear attack and a 0.99

01:19:56.940 bear killing a woman this is the first fatal oh black bear maybe there's a brown bear uh in california

01:20:07.020 wait 2023 no wait 2023 woman hold on two days ago i thought this was brand new scroll down a little

01:20:14.380 bit lots of news articles cnn sky news nbc usa today ap news cbs california confirms first fatal black

01:20:22.460 bear attack oh it's a they're probably brown bears and grizzly bear attacks okay there's a black bear 0.99

01:20:27.100 these girls saying oh well if it's a black bear it might be friendly scroll down a little bit stupid 1.00

01:20:31.900 fatal black bear attack it's been in the news pull uh nick scroll up a little bit where or just right 0.99

01:20:38.940 there cnn two days ago patrice miller 71 was not just okay but i don't think she was like

01:20:45.340 it broke into her but a recently released autopsy report by california in her home 0.99

01:20:51.340 fuck it click that cnn wait actually fuck cnn i mean i already scroll back up 0.99

01:20:55.740 we're gonna have a play wall so uh we're gonna do we'll do sky news let's see sky news i'll i'll 1.00

01:21:03.500 allow sky news at the end they're kind of okay they're australian woman found dead in mountains

01:21:07.900 was victim of state's first fatal bear attack she was a autopsy confirmed she was mauled to death 0.87

01:21:15.580 in the teeny mount mountainous mountainous how do you fucking say that mountainous sorry for your 1.00

01:21:22.860 losses mountainous mountainanus mountainanus it's mountainanus definitely don't be dumb 0.99

01:21:28.220 that's horrible uh like what is life we're in the matrix so 0.99

01:21:35.660 fuck i should have asked the goddamn bear question first god dang ask the bear question all right we'll 0.99

01:21:40.780 just i should have asked it before i pulled up the freaking article because now maybe it's gonna 0.99

01:21:44.700 it's gonna skew things start on that side of the table no well i'm gonna be yapping and you know

01:21:51.900 this he's gonna prove his dominance now okay so going around the table would you rather come across

01:21:58.780 a random man or random bear in the woods starting with you i've done both multiple times i literally 0.94

01:22:04.780 you've had sexual intercourse with a man and a bear what do you mean you've done this question 0.72

01:22:09.420 define done um well i used carnal knowledge hitchhike the country like i was practically 0.95

01:22:14.860 homeless i just wanted to travel and i you know in certain more rural areas i would go walking looking

01:22:20.860 for my place to like camp for the night i would come across bears and then sometimes if i were like

01:22:26.060 more in cities i have literally slept in the woods right next to some bums that i didn't even say hi to

01:22:32.540 i just walked up and i was like hey are you gonna arrive at the point soon can you arrive at the

01:22:39.180 point there are points see i told you i was gonna yap but um i've done both to the question bear did

01:22:45.100 not kill me the man did not try nothing so this is the silliest argument man but the bear is also cute

01:22:52.380 like for the sake of yeah the bear is cute what about you uh i'd probably choose bear over man in

01:23:00.380 the middle of the woods just because men are unpredictable and the bear i know if i if i

01:23:04.940 poke it with a stick then it's a dumb way to die you know i'm not poking the bear with stick we can

01:23:09.420 what if you don't be friends you can be friends with the bear oh my god for sure 0.97

01:23:15.100 give it some food and stuff he'll be very happy i've run into a bear you are the food

01:23:19.260 what about you choosing the man man man 100 the dude man okay i shouldn't have shown that

01:23:29.660 the news article i don't think it would have mattered about this before the answer was the

01:23:34.220 same no you have to be ominous about it actually it did change it because i didn't wait really no

01:23:41.820 the chances of a guy wait so you would have said bear i would have probably said a black bear

01:23:46.860 bear because i feel like well so your answer would have been black bear black bear yeah yeah

01:23:53.420 i but what i don't understand what the question is is like the chances if you're in the woods you're

01:23:58.300 there for a reason whether you're camping hiking whatever the case is and i'm not saying that this

01:24:02.940 is across you know the board blanket wise but i'm pretty sure the dude is probably there for the same

01:24:07.580 reasons it's i i mean i'm not saying that every single time you go to the woods and the guys in the

01:24:12.140 woods that he's looking to a kill you rape you or you know sorry do terrible things to you

01:24:17.820 so you know i just i don't i don't see that necessarily being the first thing that's going 0.98

01:24:21.740 to happen so the scenario the better way to think of it because a lot of people think like well what's

01:24:26.300 the man doing there i think it's kind of irrelevant to the question the scenario would better just be

01:24:31.100 described as you randomly get dropped in the woods along with randomly getting dropped in the woods

01:24:38.620 with a man or a bear and you will cross paths with them so the motivations of why are they there

01:24:46.220 are kind of irrelevant exactly in this scenario uh you pick bear why is that

01:24:54.620 because in some cases bear can be safer than the man and what can in what scenario will a bear

01:25:00.540 ever be safer than a man and a bear a man you have a chance to fight against a bear you do not

01:25:04.940 a man could also more likely than not would well okay go ahead make your argument lie i just feel

01:25:12.380 like i don't with the bear oh if i don't mess with the bear and bear doesn't mess with me we're good

01:25:19.340 but men you don't you don't know i mean sometimes i talk to guys and just me being nice to them they're

01:25:23.660 they think i'm trying to trying to move to the next base and i'm like bro i'm just being nice to you

01:25:29.660 like i'm so good okay and in those situations where maybe the guy was not reading the signals

01:25:36.860 correctly did he end up murdering you well no oh okay but you felt uncomfortable you could say almost

01:25:48.380 you never know almost really so all the all those times where the guy misread the signals you were on

01:25:57.340 the verge of being murdered but you just most certainly dude i bet he had like a butter knife

01:26:06.700 in his back pocket waiting for the moment yeah butter knife that would be a good way probably a

01:26:12.220 spoon i think the only fair argument there sorry to interrupt good i think the only fair argument is

01:26:17.820 like people in general men or women can be more like calculated right and manipulative whereas like

01:26:23.580 an animal is kind of just going to react whereas like a person could possibly act like they don't

01:26:27.820 have bad intent and then actually a bad intent i think that's the only argument i would say for

01:26:32.140 choosing the bear yeah does that i don't know i've been actually like an animal's more predictable

01:26:37.740 i'm gonna assume that a bear might do something aggressive so i can be ready for it but like a

01:26:41.580 person a man could like pretend that they have good intent and then kind of get you to let your guard

01:26:46.540 down and then not but i mean the men that i'm running into on the trail i'm a big trail runner

01:26:51.580 i have never knock on something and i'm in some really remote places run into a man who is trying

01:26:56.860 to hurt me in the wilderness ever well just here in la there was homeless guys randomly attacking women

01:27:03.740 running on the beach oh that's like in new york that's in like new york where there's like punching

01:27:10.140 women exactly it's different oh yeah i guess i'm not so i'm not trying to make the argument here that

01:27:15.500 there aren't bad men can we change the animal could it be like an elephant okay but you're you're like

01:27:25.340 super outdoorsy right like don't you do you do van life i lived in a van for two years okay and but

01:27:31.020 and you're running you do trail running so i mean how many times a week would you be out running in the

01:27:37.260 wilderness alone i guess i mean when i'm in peak training i'm running up at like 12 500 feet for

01:27:43.740 like 40 50 miles a week so i'm spending hours and hours i'm talking like no cell service completely by

01:27:49.100 myself and i do carry something yeah i also have a really um a really strong dog um so he's a very

01:27:55.180 good deterrent but i mean still if someone has a gun or a knife you know and had really bad intent

01:27:59.580 that's not going to do much like how many how many um individual times would you say you've

01:28:05.340 like been out in the wilderness over a thousand times easily i've been trail running for like

01:28:10.380 seven eight years like where you're you're alone and how many times would you say you've like maybe

01:28:14.620 crossed an individual uh man when you're out there maybe like 15 20 just because where i run

01:28:21.100 is so remote it's super remote so it's rare for you to even encounter anybody very rare but i've never

01:28:26.220 felt unsafe i'm always like aware you know and kind of wary but i've never felt threatened or had

01:28:31.500 anything yeah happen and of the times you did encounter men what i mean is it just you literally

01:28:37.420 pass them and it's like a little nod or hi and that's it you just walk past each other yes i

01:28:42.140 think i think maybe i've just been lucky i do think like there's an element of luck here you know i know

01:28:46.140 that bad things can happen to people and sometimes they're not asking for it you know but um i feel like

01:28:51.740 the men that i've passed were kind of aware of the circumstances of the fact that we were alone and

01:28:56.860 were aware of the fact that they are a man and we were in the middle of nowhere and maybe i've just

01:29:01.660 been lucky but i felt that they were very respectful of that so their almed meatball donated 200

01:29:08.140 has anyone on this panel ever run into a beer before how safe did you feel i have in alaska same

01:29:15.100 but i was in a car there was no harm you're in a car yeah in a car and i've run into probably about

01:29:20.140 i would say five to six black bears since i've lived in colorado like 10 feet away and they all just

01:29:24.780 leave you be about their day yeah same i've run into about five or six and one time not counting

01:29:30.940 the cubs it was a mom with two cubs and yeah it was about like 10 15 feet away and i was excited i

01:29:37.900 didn't feel any fear and i was just like oh that's so cute and i was terrified you're braver i sat in

01:29:43.180 my car for 30 minutes last night because there was a raccoon outside i was so scared to get in

01:29:47.660 my house are mean that was smart i actually got bit by a barracuda and it was like over a hundred

01:29:53.820 barracuda they're about that big and one of them bit me and i started bleeding and i just

01:29:58.380 held my finger and like swam to shore like but i my heart rate did not even skip a beat i don't know 1.00

01:30:04.460 i have like survival instincts like a motherfucker i guess or you're a beautiful psychopath definitely 0.99

01:30:10.860 not a psychopath i'm very emotional but hey we both lived in vans before wow commonality 1.00

01:30:17.820 yes yes queen i'm more boring than thin thin i watch okay uh hold on just going back to you

01:30:26.700 since you said bear and you were gonna say bear i'm gonna just say your answer was bear my answer

01:30:31.420 was bear yeah sure um so why why bear because i'm an irrational human being oh that's a good that's

01:30:38.060 actually probably the best answer i've heard on that you at least yourself aware of that it's an

01:30:43.660 irrational uh answer and so really quick going back to you so you like how many times per week

01:30:51.180 would you go out into the wilderness like five days a week it depends on the time of the year

01:30:56.300 obviously um but in the summer i'd say at least two three times a week i'm up pretty high okay yeah

01:31:02.620 good to know good to know so okay a couple questions for you on this bear thing so you think

01:31:08.140 you'd rather be with a bear than the man so what do you think the chances are if we select a random

01:31:15.100 man from the united states population what do you think the chances are that if placed in the

01:31:20.860 scenario that a man would opt to victimize you in some way

01:31:29.260 i don't know i actually i don't know well give us a percentage 20 30 40 50 well it depends on

01:31:37.740 what what victimizing means to you uh anyway from anywhere from

01:31:45.420 say touching you inappropriately to all the way to murder

01:31:50.780 uh i would say probably like 40 40 40 and is that 40 40 of men would touch you inappropriately

01:32:00.140 do you have a lower percentage for how many would murder you or still 40 i just think it's

01:32:04.860 like 40 for more like men touching inappropriately because just like my experience and like school

01:32:10.540 with dudes like going through puberty like like there was this one kid that literally would like

01:32:15.660 walk behind all the girls with big butts and just like smack them and run away yeah that's wrong um 1.00

01:32:21.740 what so this was in how old were you in middle school yikes okay well that's wrong of him to do 100 but 0.98

01:32:28.700 what are you kind of arguing that 40 of the boys that you went to school with touched you or other women inappropriately

01:32:42.140 okay maybe like 20 percent

01:32:44.380 just be clear if there were a thousand say there were a thousand boys that would be 400 of the boys or 200 of the boys in the case of

01:32:51.740 20 200 the boys in the school were touching the women inappropriately they would shut the school down

01:33:01.260 is that your recollection of your 1.00

01:33:05.340 middle school experience i just feel like dudes before they have any common sense just do stupid 0.97

01:33:10.380 stuff and then women are like uh what do i do about this like what do i do some women don't even say 1.00

01:33:15.420 anything they get touched inappropriately and they were never even taught that they were touched

01:33:20.140 inappropriately so they're just like but i feel like if we did a statistic and women had to like 1.00

01:33:25.660 if we had like a poll like how many women were touched inappropriate and like inappropriately in 1.00

01:33:30.140 their time and didn't say anything i feel like it would be a higher number than

01:33:34.700 than people would expect that's what the whole me too movement was about

01:33:39.980 that's that's what the whole me too movement was about is that every woman has been through something

01:33:43.420 like that yeah so i'd have to say like 40 i feel like 50 is too many but i definitely feel like 40

01:33:48.460 like men don't like so i feel like it's actually a smaller percentage of men but it's the percentage

01:33:55.740 of men they're doing it more so they're gonna so the percentage of men is probably like maybe five ten

01:34:03.100 percent but that percentage of men is doing so much sa or enough sa to where it's affecting multiple

01:34:12.860 women what constitutes sa to you um for me uh anytime that a man inappropriately touches me or um 0.98

01:34:24.380 holds me against my will and i don't mean to put you on the spot i'm genuinely curious so like if a man

01:34:29.740 were to come up and like put his hand on your shoulder you're not saying that that would be a

01:34:33.500 say i think it would be a violation of my privacy but it would not be sexual assault

01:34:42.220 so can we try to narrow in here on a number in terms of of the men random random man

01:34:50.620 what percentage of men do you think would opt to victimize you in some way in this scenario

01:34:57.260 i feel like they don't opt i just feel like sometimes they do it and they don't know that

01:35:04.460 they're doing it like okay fine they're doing it whether whether they're doing they're doing

01:35:10.380 it unconsciously or consciously i think that's like a really good percentage 20 yeah okay so

01:35:17.740 let's say that there's 160 million men in the united states 20 of that would be um and math here

01:35:28.700 is going to be fucked uh 30 something million let's just say around 30 so you think 30 million men 0.92

01:35:39.340 in the united states in this situation would uh choose to victimize you in some way 0.99

01:35:47.740 maybe women in general not just me or wall you're the one on the hike that wouldn't that on the one 1.00

01:35:52.860 do you think 30 do you think 30 million men in the united states throughout the course of their life

01:35:57.980 will uh victimize a woman in some way probably 30 million men

01:36:08.140 i mean america is pretty good with the rules and things and i feel like we have more morals than

01:36:12.940 other countries but i feel like what's the current going to other countries the numbers might get

01:36:17.580 higher so the current prison population uh let's see is over 1 million it's 1.2 million

01:36:31.100 uh and this this is this includes uh huh in the united states yeah 1.2 million that's the current

01:36:38.620 prison population in the united states and this is going to include uh financial crimes it's going

01:36:44.860 to include drug like drug related crimes men who are violent towards other men um so obviously you

01:36:53.740 know there are people who commit crimes get away with it they don't get in trouble etc there are men

01:36:59.180 who are released but i mean don't you think given given this number i've provided that it's probably

01:37:05.420 unlikely that 30 million percent of or sorry not 30 million men in the united states would choose to

01:37:12.780 victimize you they probably have at some point in their lifetime you think 30 million men would at

01:37:19.260 some point at some point you're making a very like broad definition of essay too so that's like

01:37:26.540 what about no no well i'm including like murder it's probably five in this okay but this is a

01:37:31.580 a logical fallacy because just because there's that many millions of people in prison right now

01:37:36.700 it's not like a broad overview of people who have maybe have gotten out of prison haven't gone to

01:37:41.980 prison yet i mentioned that right so then you do have to account for that okay let's just double

01:37:46.060 the math and see how many people are in prison for rape and rape or sex guys just say that haven't

01:37:52.700 been reported so maybe add a little bit more for that because that's very common what women who don't 1.00

01:37:59.820 report the essay yeah so it's really hard to look at statistics in this way when it's such a nuanced

01:38:05.660 i think if you looked at the whole entire world how about won't you tell us what percentage of men

01:38:10.220 you think would choose to victimize somebody in these circumstances okay who i think would actively

01:38:16.540 do it what percentage i don't think it's 40 percent um

01:38:22.860 i mean i i can't really say um i mean i've encountered things like that myself but i also

01:38:33.820 know a lot of really good men and the the other guys are like outliers i don't know maybe 20 percent

01:38:41.020 still a lot of men 20 percent again that's what 30 million or something at least once in their 0.69

01:38:47.580 whole lifetime with this whole broad very vague no most men throughout their whole lifetime are

01:38:52.780 never going to commit a violent crime i think it is a smaller percentage of very small doing a lot

01:39:00.220 of that if that makes sense yeah yeah yeah because like 20 that's a lot that's a lot you would think

01:39:06.220 that the hobos in the woods that i like camp next to would be in the like demographic that's higher

01:39:11.500 percentage to do something like that i don't know if i'll phrase that right but no they would be in 0.98

01:39:16.860 that higher percentage and yet no one bothered me i did have a bum like throw his shit bucket at me 0.99

01:39:23.340 once i i was a correctional officer and we see stuff like that all the time i think another important 0.95

01:39:28.620 wait you're a what i was a correctional officer at one point okay well another important thing to

01:39:33.420 know i guess is not necessarily how many men are actually doing it but how many men given the

01:39:37.500 circumstances would do it and that is probably higher than what's actually happening because

01:39:46.540 there were no consequences if there were no consequences for it there was actually an

01:39:50.780 experiment so no you really you think no consequences they would yes i can say i think it's beautiful that

01:39:56.220 you don't think that i think you're projecting a very good internal world that's the history that you

01:40:01.420 don't think that what about i mean the people so are you saying like no criminal consequences yeah no

01:40:06.940 criminal consequences yeah what about the consequences of your mind to or do that well um that too but i

01:40:13.820 think that's okay then let's roll out culture and shaming because there's culture and shaming associated 0.83

01:40:21.020 with sa so if you didn't have that present um i mean this is kind of like you're gonna have a lot more

01:40:31.260 because i feel like it's a natural inclination for men to want to dominate women and be aggressive you

01:40:37.420 think it's a natural inclination for men to want to dominate women you mean not by and by but but

01:40:43.500 the context of the conversation here is sa so when you say dominate you mean it's in men's nature to

01:40:48.780 want to sa women if you're considering the definition of sa to be like any form of inappropriate

01:40:59.100 gesture or touching um then yes i feel like a lot of men would do that we're going by thought give

01:41:06.380 me a percentage like uh what percentage of men would do it 15 15 okay go ahead what were you gonna say

01:41:15.900 i just uh well i mean what we do for work like the amount of men that make comments that are just like

01:41:21.820 insane and it's like if if it was a percentage by like if there was no like liability for doing that

01:41:29.260 i feel like it would easily be 40 percent like men would just be what do you mean the men 0.98

01:41:33.900 that make comments what do you mean okay men men send you messages like like what nice titties i 0.99

01:41:43.100 want to just people say crazy things like you're a sex worker exactly do you i mean yeah that's the 0.99

01:41:49.100 world that you decided to be involved in oh no i know but it's just like it's probably different

01:41:53.260 than actually like doing that's not sa right it's probably i think she's factoring in yeah

01:41:57.900 yeah i think that i don't think men should be yeah i don't think men should be sending you like 0.98

01:42:04.940 sexually inappropriate messages but that's not sa for a guy to be like oh nice titties i want to 0.95

01:42:11.740 could you ever no she's just saying based on those comments that's why her view is that it would be 0.92

01:42:16.380 so many because she gets so many comments like that if what was legal if it was legal for for men 0.96

01:42:22.220 to just do whatever to women i mean in other countries i mean the stuff that happens to women

01:42:27.260 that i mean if we did a percentage of the entire planet and the countries that like women don't have 1.00

01:42:32.300 rights well i don't know about the like i i'm not sure what country in specific you're talking about but

01:42:38.140 perhaps there are some countries where this is a more common occurrence but i can't really speak

01:42:42.860 to that yeah so oh shoot i can't remember what i was going to say um i got i got a question so

01:42:53.100 for those of you who say bear if we go to any zoo in the world and you go to a zoo that has a bear

01:43:00.060 enclosure um now take note that there will be men and women outside the enclosure why are none of the

01:43:07.980 women jumping into the enclosure to escape from the men cultural shaming why haven't we ever heard 0.99

01:43:15.980 of that happening uh cultural shaming that's the reason because why would a man like essay someone in

01:43:22.300 a public space like a zoo let's i don't know maybe it's late it's late at night there's nobody around

01:43:27.740 right opportunity if a man was trying to essay me in a public space i wouldn't jump into the

01:43:35.820 enclosure with the bear unless i felt like the bear would avenge me yes the bear would avenge you okay

01:43:45.180 um nick could you pull up that uh the meme thing or whatever about the bear

01:43:49.500 i feel like we've been talking about the bear for now right it's apparently doing well in a

01:43:56.060 hypothetical essay situation all right maddie can you read this brown engineer up to nine feet tall

01:44:02.540 standing up to 1300 pounds claws up to four inches bite force 1200 psi pelt slash fur up to five inches

01:44:11.340 speed up to 35 miles per hour kyle 5 10 ew 174 pounds project engineer said hi to you at the gym

01:44:20.700 kyle's hot bro this is exactly it dude that's exactly it um yeah it's pretty crazy um

01:44:29.980 but i mean i did preface that i'm irrational can i ask you guys here for you said bear if me and nick

01:44:36.300 we're the two men here in the studio if we just transformed into bears right now do you guys think

01:44:40.540 you'd be safer two bears two bears in one room me and nick right now just instantly transformed into

01:44:51.420 two bears you think you'd be more safe or less safe definitely less safe are you still two bears in

01:45:00.460 this room right now like right here like you're a bear right there bam i just boom definitely less

01:45:05.260 safe transform into a bear wait not safe at all okay like conscious wise as well what if they turned

01:45:11.020 into the bears from um mortal kombat oh yeah that would really be dangerous good one

01:45:20.140 berenstein bears you know i mean it could be more safe let me ask you another question um if you were

01:45:25.740 in a bathroom would you rather a man or a bear wanders in oh uh that's a good question just say

01:45:37.100 the man that's different well if a man's coming into a bathroom that i'm in then definitely the bear

01:45:43.740 because why is a man walking into the female bathroom so what if it's like a transgender woman 0.99

01:45:48.380 then it's a woman what if he's like a really hot guy 0.67

01:45:54.700 oh no yeah you're eyeballing him all night wait actually so question for you i'll know where where

01:46:05.580 you fall on the whole like transgender in the bathroom thing uh do you think the concerns over

01:46:11.180 transgender women going into women's and girls bathrooms do you think that that's uh 0.97

01:46:17.100 a reasonable because of your uh hesitance to be in a forest with a with a male do you think that

01:46:24.540 that's a reasonable position to take i mean i think it's fine i think it's fine up to the point

01:46:32.620 where if there's like kids and stuff using that bathroom and what if that like people do crazy stuff

01:46:40.220 like what if like what if a man yeah i can't talk about that one i can't i can't even say that it would

01:46:46.300 make it would make no one's gonna feel comfortable given their authentic take but i would not want 0.99

01:46:50.460 a trans woman who has a penis coming into the bathroom with me either yeah personally i'll be 1.00

01:46:55.100 the one to say it um i think especially if i have kids not to say that every trans woman is like a 1.00

01:47:00.860 essay or because they're obviously not but okay got it i do want to ask one question and then we're

01:47:06.700 going to move on topics because this this bear one always gets a little heavy uh i do want to say

01:47:12.700 rest in peace to that woman who was killed by the bear nick pull that up one more time okay but i

01:47:16.700 don't think she chose her family she she wasn't she wasn't faced with the predicament of man versus

01:47:24.060 bear she didn't get to choose she was 71 news articles back back back uh let me know when she fell

01:47:32.860 asleep eating peanut butter or something it's just like what's crazy to me is right y'all will yeah so

01:47:37.740 rest in peace uh if anybody's new to tuning in uh a woman first uh fatal bear attack in california

01:47:45.740 so this is local to us here in california so uh r.i.p to that lady man um

01:47:54.620 but y'all will go to a bar filled with random men y'all will go home and hook up with random men 0.88

01:48:01.500 that's what's crazy to me that's why it's irrational that's why i don't go too far yeah

01:48:06.140 when i first heard it i was like obviously the bear but i get but i get what i get the social thing

01:48:10.860 that people are trying to shed light on like i get it but realistically come on now you're not 0.66

01:48:15.660 going to choose the fucking bear no it's just it's basically just like social signaling yes to be 0.87

01:48:21.500 like we don't like men basically yeah i would never say that i don't like necessarily think it's 0.98

01:48:26.140 that they don't like men i think they're just trying to shed light on a problem and put it into

01:48:29.660 maybe i just think an animal some of them don't like men here to predict their behavior with a

01:48:35.660 brain that has is that is very complex a bear i know if i poke it with a stick i'm i'm probably

01:48:41.420 gonna piss it off and then it's probably even if you don't poke it with a stick you're it's a bear 0.95

01:48:45.580 it's a 1300 pound animal that's going that's willing to kill you you you said you've seen bears

01:48:51.340 in person they never bothered you you've seen bears in person they've never bothered you me like

01:48:55.820 any of us could say i mean what are the chances of a man bothering you out in public would you

01:49:00.220 rather interact with higher than the bear probably i think it's about the danger though is is the

01:49:05.740 point here would you would that make sense okay can we say if a bear was going to attack you and a

01:49:09.660 man was going to attack you who would you rather attack like a bear is not going to call me but

01:49:13.100 like you know what i mean still say bear because they're done well the bear will just kill me 0.90

01:49:17.980 but who knows the man could torture me like that okay you know do all kinds of depraved 0.99

01:49:23.740 shit is there is there a difference between leaving out and live though you know what's the 1.00

01:49:29.500 difference uh and also the bear will eat you alive exactly so probably slowly a slow death yes 1.00

01:49:36.620 all right this is uh so this is kind of you're just kind of crawling there like

01:49:42.300 so this is kind of a heavy question but i am i'm just really curious to know because i want to

01:49:47.580 better understand like the female psyche on this um and i don't want to linger on it just because 0.96

01:49:52.540 it's kind of heavy but like so would you rather be s-aid or killed s-aid s-aid i said

01:50:03.100 i say sounds like collectively we all would rather be there or you choose the man

01:50:09.100 so i can see them yeah well you don't have evidence that's the whole part of like being

01:50:21.020 in the woods is like i mean i guess you can go get a kit done immediately wait can i ask

01:50:24.940 i would choose the man because i support the second amendment okay would you rather encounter 0.98

01:50:28.940 a female tweaker or a sober man that's like normal a fucking sober man sober okay sober man 0.99

01:50:35.260 yeah yeah drugs i think some people just crazy i saw some guy peeing on himself the other day i'll 0.99

01:50:40.220 take the tweaker in la you'll take the tweaker yeah body slammer i have a question no they get back

01:50:45.740 up listen hold on i just thought of a good one i just thought of a good one kept getting up okay if there

01:50:51.500 was a bear in your home let's say you're i don't know you're in a 0.99

01:50:56.060 fucking cabin or some shit would you call the police or animal control 0.99

01:51:03.260 i don't call the police i don't know if there was a bear broke into your home trying to break 1.00

01:51:07.020 into your home maybe it smelled some food in there or something oh no you left a screen door you left

01:51:11.980 the screen door it opened it up whatever if there's a bear in a home would you call the police or animal

01:51:17.900 control animal control animal well i'm it's i'm not asking would you call the police or like you'd

01:51:23.500 call yes you'd call one of them okay animal control and a man would show up

01:51:32.940 that's a good point that's true all right anyways anyways moving on moving on it's funny

01:51:41.260 maddie could you read this one my god i'm simply hosting oh sorry did you mean her or

01:51:47.420 me okay you can read it actually go ahead my god i'm simply hosting a simping symposium

01:51:58.460 symposium for the raven-haired goddess the three on the right yo okay who's who who's what go ahead

01:52:08.780 my god i'm simply hosting a simple symposium for a raven-haired goddess yeah it's the same one

01:52:15.020 one you know but you didn't finish the whole thing okay 10 sorry 8.5 oh wait wait am i on the right 0.97

01:52:21.420 too yeah holy fuck can just finish the fucking paragraph where do you work out the three on the 0.99

01:52:26.460 right it's disappeared because y'all can't oh my god third time i'm challenged okay so raven-haired goddess 0.99

01:52:36.940 10 blonde 5.8 purple nine it's a question for the panel where do you work out in the bedroom 0.76

01:52:49.260 i'm sorry that was terrible when's the last time where do i work out i just work at my house

01:52:52.860 when's the last time you got laid it's been over two years i already answered that question

01:52:58.060 it uh who's the raven-haired that's who that's which one is i don't know that's black i don't

01:53:03.020 know i have black black hair is raven hair yeah i never heard that oh yes ravens are black

01:53:08.460 all right can you read this manny alissa when have you ever walked around like you're a five

01:53:14.300 tori excuse me bobby keep the wook life glorious i have no idea what is it oh okay did you mean well

01:53:22.060 i don't walk around like i'm a five because i know because i don't just view myself in terms of like

01:53:26.860 looks so i walk around with confidence because i have a lot of great attributes and i'm and even

01:53:32.540 if you are ugly who cares you can still walk around with confidence um so like i can think my face is

01:53:37.020 a five and my body is a nine or ten and still you know walk around like you're going to treat me 0.98

01:53:41.820 anything less than a ten wait who's going to treat you like anything less than a ten nobody is going to

01:53:49.100 they'll get divorced if they do oh so they got to treat you like a ten yes and i don't think the way

01:53:54.060 you treat somebody should be based upon their looks well what does the treatment that treatment

01:53:57.980 entail what does it mean to be treated honesty integrity um so that's only you're not going to

01:54:03.420 cheat on me a decent human being no i think that's what i'm saying i don't think i'm a ten

01:54:08.060 i think my face is a five and i said my body's like eight or a nine but despite that i'm going

01:54:12.300 to be treated like a ten regardless that's the point that i'm making four is good and it just

01:54:17.100 and being treated like a ten means that like they're not going to cheat on you they're going to

01:54:20.780 respect you they're going to make decisions with you in mind like basic on the floor level things

01:54:27.820 okay good to know good to know we're going to get into uh some of our pre-show notes here

01:54:32.780 uh actually you know what before we do that um i need to get up for just a moment maddie do you want

01:54:38.700 to ask your favorite question to ask while i go deal with some stuff the favorite three sure okay 0.95

01:54:46.460 um what's everyone's body count oh fuck where are we starting 0.97

01:54:54.780 yeah where do you want to start like we usually go this every question so i have terrible memory 0.95

01:55:00.300 and just give us the number i have terrible memory you could do like a range if you don't

01:55:04.380 know she does she forgot about some of our hookups together some of our three together i literally was

01:55:09.340 like we did what but i would say oh okay we'll start with you i guess i'm in commentary he wants

01:55:17.820 that i'm in the three digit that's all i'm going to give you it's a high three digit but it's it's up

01:55:22.220 there i i i'm a recovered sex addict so i'll just put that out there so oh yeah congratulations thank

01:55:29.020 you thank you my husband knocked the hoe out of me that's that's how i put it thank you 1.00

01:55:33.500 you i'd rather not share being shy oh come on range don't be a prude come on you'd say like 0.96

01:55:41.660 under okay is it definitely under time okay so then you're you're fine you are a prude

01:55:47.900 six i don't know exactly but and we were talking about it last night but i've had like a series of

01:55:53.900 monogamous relationships mostly so i would say like under 25 but more likely under 20.

01:56:04.300 um i think it's over 40. i have mommy and daddy issues so it's been a long learning journey

01:56:10.940 but i feel grateful because i've learned a lot about what i like sexually from my experiences and

01:56:17.820 what i do not like so yeah and for me i was gonna say if we're counting men women and like scene

01:56:25.660 partners oh i'm sorry i have a little bitty tiny voice so if we're counting men women and scene

01:56:32.140 partners it's at least 50 but maybe closer to 100 because i have bad memory at least how much how

01:56:38.860 oh yeah sure we'll do men and women well definitely majority men because they're easier and i'm shy with 1.00

01:56:44.780 the ladies you know so like how many of the 50 to 100 do you think are men the percentage would probably 1.00

01:56:51.180 be like 80. oh and then like the other percentage 20 20. yeah i have less female than men in my number 1.00

01:56:59.980 i'm bisexual too but i have zero women on my docket so you're not really bisexual you want to add one

01:57:06.460 i'm by myself wait is everyone here bisexual i don't think i am she is she is who said that

01:57:18.540 then you just like if you have if she said she was in between younger like i literally don't even

01:57:24.220 remember we've been like maybe having three sons but she's but she's not bisexual would you say like

01:57:29.500 most of like your bodies were like with her i love no no that was like i think that was only three

01:57:38.940 occasions okay yeah we're not out here just like tag teaming all the time or anything like that

01:57:43.980 sounds like they're going out murdering people you're like how many bodies have you got what's

01:57:48.460 your body just bagging people right that's why they both chose men because they actually want to murder 1.00

01:57:53.340 than men i have a serious question i have a serious question for you guys do you if if you're dating a 1.00

01:58:00.780 guy and he tells you that he's had his dick sucked a bunch of times by a bunch of different dudes 0.99

01:58:06.460 including his best friend is he gay yes he's at least does he like men yes of course he does i think 1.00

01:58:12.620 it's different for men and women like i feel like in society like right like it's more accepted for

01:58:16.620 women to sleep with other women like i've slept with a couple women but i don't really consider 0.98

01:58:20.380 myself bisexual but i was like i'm curious and like it didn't traumatize me right like i didn't

01:58:25.100 like question myself where i feel like if guys have an experience like that like it's not as

01:58:29.660 accepted like yeah like i ended a pretty serious relationship because i found out a man that i was

01:58:35.020 dating had like gone down on another guy like in college which is so dumb i didn't judge him for

01:58:40.060 it but after he shared that i just like saw him differently no okay but like on one hand given

01:58:44.860 that it is so like against societal norms and they still did it they look you know what i've heard

01:58:51.420 also i don't disagree why do you have i mean i've heard that the space are you going through something

01:58:58.220 for me that killed it i just had an experience i've heard that men are actually better we're talking

01:59:02.940 over each other giving wait your current guy no comment not not the current guy oh not the current guy

01:59:11.260 but if i if i said which one it was then well i'm not gonna say who but someone that i was with is 0.98

01:59:17.340 now dating a trans woman who has a penis yay so is that gay do y'all think that's bisexual i think i 0.99

01:59:23.660 think it is if you enjoy sexual encounters i think if they have a penis if you're a man who enjoys 1.00

01:59:31.180 dick then you are definitely a little bit gay and like i can know okay so here's the nuance on my 1.00

01:59:39.260 taking that i think a man can want a woman to peg him and it still be straight because they have a 0.99

01:59:43.500 g-spot wait what say that again yeah that makes sense i think a man who wants a woman to like peg

01:59:48.140 him i don't think that's gay because i think it is but i think you sleep with a man who has 0.99

01:59:52.540 testosterone running through his body on a fucking biological hormonal level you're bisexual at least 1.00

01:59:59.260 i think maybe it's not like gay but it's definitely like gay behavior if it is i mean 1.00

02:00:04.060 it's not okay wait fantasy wait we're not allowed to say that it's not straight activity

02:00:11.500 do you think that about like gaming's happy but what i heard i think it's a little sus i i do think

02:00:17.100 it's a little because only because the guys that i've been with who were super into you know

02:00:22.380 i found one trying to hook up with men on craigslist and then the other one is now in a 0.98

02:00:27.740 relationship with a trans woman who has a penis and maybe it's very clearly if your dude has 0.99

02:00:32.380 their alamed meatball donated 200 any penetration to a guy about his heart yeah mr meatball dropping 1.00

02:00:39.580 the knowledge it's like a dominant submissive thing like i don't want a man what have i penetrated his

02:00:44.060 heart with my love no but i've heard that men are actually better at going down on other men

02:00:50.380 what's your next question otherwise they know they know more that's what i've heard i leave for

02:00:56.540 three minutes and they're talking about okay well she's had like some guy in the past that has

02:01:01.420 went down on other guys she's also no other way other way a lot had lots of guys go down on him

02:01:06.620 yeah wait did we do we went all the way around on body count yeah what was ever can i hear it again

02:01:13.420 um over 50 closer to 100 over 40 about 20. wait no no just let them hold on let them say it themselves

02:01:23.020 please so let's start with you go ahead triple digit i don't want to share do you want to do a

02:01:28.140 range she said under very low under nine very low but i just rather six i feel like under 20 like over

02:01:36.060 40 less than what over 40 less than 60 less than 60 okay and then she said this one's 60 or something

02:01:47.420 she said 50 to 100. oh 50 to 100. okay good times all right they must have had good times were they

02:01:57.260 good times me are you asking me were they good times are we asking well because we're not good

02:02:04.060 yeah because i'm wondering in those experiences if they're quality really quick i'll just uh

02:02:09.660 so one of the flakes we put uh nick can you pull up the thumbnail really quick

02:02:13.180 uh guys so we uh have one of the flakes in the thumbnail and uh once we're done with it

02:02:19.820 you can exile that okay she's the one with the blue hair we obviously have the i guess the raven 0.56

02:02:25.820 haired girl and the pink haired girl here uh so we're gonna just do a little reaction to the thumbnail 0.99

02:02:31.580 since she's not here there's a couple pieces of criticism and commentary i have on this thumbnail

02:02:39.420 and on this photo uh first off gentlemen would you uh would you date a woman who has a sternum tattoo

02:02:48.940 has an under titty tattoo who has i believe fake lips they look a little fake to me a little puffy

02:02:56.380 fake contacts purple and then the the blue it's obviously a wig a blue bob so and i am possibly 0.88

02:03:05.900 detecting nipple piercing so uh chat would you date a woman like this i can speak personally 0.92

02:03:12.940 there's absolutely no scenario where i would ever date a woman like that uh i might even 1.00

02:03:18.860 throw up in my mouth a little bit if i even encountered such a person especially if they're

02:03:23.420 inclined to no show to a commitment that they requested there might be a little vomit in the back

02:03:29.500 of my mouth um so would you i'm just curious guys would you like would you date her chat like that's

02:03:37.500 you know you know just wanting your guys's input okay if tell me why i thought that was her for a

02:03:43.900 second john who me samson it was her oh wait before i have you go uh your so your body count is between

02:03:50.620 50 and 100 and is it you said it's like mixed girls guys kind of like 80 20 mostly guys okay

02:03:58.460 go ahead medicine oh i was saying like if you had to date a girl like her and one of those bad things 1.00

02:04:04.940 had to go which would you what do you mean one like the sternum tattoo the nipple piercings what's

02:04:12.220 worse the like if you had to pick one to go like only one could go the rest has to stay that's still 0.97

02:04:17.740 pretty shitty how about just the being a terrible human being how about that that has time management 0.96

02:04:23.820 why did y'all pick the most masculine looking picture of me i look like a lesbian in that picture 0.98

02:04:27.900 it's a good photo the i like the the the beanie it's a good look for you okay because i got a big 0.94

02:04:33.500 ass forehead that's probably why no i do have a big hair if i was rich i would definitely get 1.00

02:04:41.580 like a hair transplant or something so my forehead your hair's fine is that the the second one that fell 0.71

02:04:47.740 the table's in the class okay well can your why did it oh boy okay 0.99

02:04:57.100 all right uh fuck this table okay i can't it's physically impossible stop 0.99

02:05:08.220 can i have you read this one please wow can you have her read this tongue twister also oh my god okay 1.00

02:05:15.260 she she sells seashells down by the seashore how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck

02:05:22.940 could chuck wood canton clams clamp can't believe that that was good i really tried

02:05:29.580 i have like a little bit of a speech impediment as well so that's yo kill of cereal thank you man

02:05:34.300 appreciate it thank you that was a perfect test i would like to actually test these women's 1.00

02:05:39.180 typing speed like words per minute so one of these days i'm just gonna like get a keyboard and let

02:05:45.420 them do like a typing test and see their words per minute i type with two fingers i type oh my god

02:05:50.220 i can type pretty well just like i hit the space you guys know what your words per minute literally

02:05:54.060 like four fingers like 20 30 minutes 30 words per minute i used to know that i'm low

02:05:59.980 i'm old enough that i took a typing class in high school so um mine was up to 60 words per minute

02:06:05.660 nice that's a good memory i cannot remember from last week i'm gonna get into the pre-show notes

02:06:11.820 here um actually we did the stifler we had i guess a couple times i'm just gonna hide those

02:06:19.340 um pre-show notes so starting with juliette you wanted to talk about the ways in which

02:06:25.420 mon feminism is actually harming both men and women and keeping us from what we actually are seeking 0.98

02:06:30.540 do you want to add anything to that do you want to elaborate at all or oh man you jumped right in i

02:06:34.620 wasn't ready okay um i think that it's been really interesting for me over the years like the

02:06:41.740 dating climate was very different i'm 38 now so when i was um single you know like 10 15 years ago

02:06:49.420 it was a very very different world and i feel like with it's not just feminism in general because i feel

02:06:54.460 like that has a lot of meanings right like feminism 30 years ago meant something very different than it 1.00

02:06:58.620 does now but i think especially with modern feminism i feel like men and women women especially

02:07:07.580 more for some reason in my opinion have lost sight and i know we talked about this earlier of what the

02:07:12.780 other is actually looking for when it comes to long-term partnership i'm not talking about short-term

02:07:18.780 casual stuff um i think that's been really interesting for me and um yeah i think it's

02:07:25.980 a different world and i think that there are a lot of women who are doing only fans and sex work and 1.00

02:07:31.820 all that kind of stuff and really enjoy it and are super happy and i think that's awesome i've also seen

02:07:36.780 the flip side of it too so i'd love to hear your ladies perspectives on that i don't know what your 1.00

02:07:41.100 experiences have been you seem like you're really happy with it which is awesome i fully support that i'm

02:07:46.060 very i guess kind of libertarian in that sense i'm kind of like do what you want but i also agree um

02:07:52.380 with brian and kind of some other people who have been on the show where i've also seen the dark side

02:07:56.700 of it and i've i think going back to mommy and daddy issues i think we laugh a lot about that but i do

02:08:01.740 think there's a lot more research coming out about how we were raised and how those family dynamics determine

02:08:08.620 not just how we value ourselves but what we tolerate and seek in in those intimate relationships that's

02:08:15.020 number one i think that secondly i think that as i've gotten older i think that sex means different

02:08:22.380 things to different people right like for some people i feel like sex is about getting off and i

02:08:27.020 feel like for other people it's more about intimacy and connection and yes like chemistry is very

02:08:32.300 important i know especially like with my next partner like if that chemistry isn't there i'm not

02:08:36.780 interested i do feel like that's kind of the glue that holds everything together but i also think that

02:08:41.420 sex is different for men than it is for women a lot of the time and people denying that i'm not 0.98

02:08:45.980 saying one necessarily needs it more than the other but it means something different i feel like men can

02:08:51.900 have sex and not get emotionally attached i'm not saying women can't but i do think that there is

02:08:58.060 a biological predisposition there yes they quite literally produce dopamine and vasopressin as opposed

02:09:03.740 to women producing more oxytocin agreed and i don't think that has to do with feminism i think

02:09:08.460 there's some biology there that a lot of people these days maybe with social media maybe with

02:09:12.780 new wave feminism they're just denying that and i think it's it's causing a lot of harm and i feel

02:09:18.300 like such a lame prude saying that and 15 years ago i was never super promiscuous but i definitely

02:09:23.980 had a very different mindset about it i was more kind of like free-spirited just in my mentality and

02:09:29.660 i've really changed the older i've gotten so i'd be interested to hear other ladies perspectives on that

02:09:35.660 so wait do you think that um modern femininity or feminism is uh like ruining sexual relationships 1.00

02:09:44.300 between men and women definitely interesting in some ways yes in some ways yes and i'm not like

02:09:49.500 anti-sex i'm all for like i have no issue with that i really don't have any shame issues around that

02:09:54.700 can you give an example like an example of how it's ruining how you think yeah it's an objective fact

02:09:59.820 that second wave feminism contributed greatly to hookup culture yes so she just hit the nail on the 1.00

02:10:05.180 head so it's a really good point so for example there's a lot of research coming out and that's

02:10:09.340 my bad for not like being able to cite my sources so i apologize but i think it's pretty easy to look

02:10:13.660 this up but a lot of the the men that are on dating apps maybe some of the women too generally speaking

02:10:20.540 they're not really seeking long-term partnership the people it doesn't matter if it's hinge or tinder or

02:10:26.620 plenty of fish i'm not saying that people can't meet on those apps and end up finding like the

02:10:30.140 love of their life i know that that happens all i can speak on is anecdotally i'm not a scientist but

02:10:35.340 from my experience and 38 years of life right from a sexual marketplace value standpoint 38 is kind of

02:10:40.860 old i don't feel old but like you know i have to think like logically like just from what i've seen

02:10:45.820 like it's it's just a very different world and um oh sorry and um and yeah i just feel like

02:10:52.940 like this idea that women can casually have sex and hook up with a lot of people and just detach 0.78

02:10:59.020 themselves emotionally from that and i'm not even talking about drugs or alcohol i don't think that's

02:11:03.340 actually possible and i do know that the one or two one night stands that i've had in my life

02:11:09.020 i was lying to myself pretending that like i didn't feel anything or i didn't care and i'm very very

02:11:14.780 grateful that's one of the few things i got really right in my life is figuring that out super early

02:11:18.540 on because i do think it saved me despite my family upbringing not being perfect or my mom and

02:11:23.420 dad making mistakes like that's one thing i'm so grateful i learned early on in life because i do

02:11:28.380 think it saved me a lot of pain and trauma grid one motorsports donated 200 b the woman prattle is 1.00

02:11:37.260 unbearable the patriarchy is standing by i can be in the studio ready to remote in in five minutes

02:11:44.060 which might prevent us all from being bored to death with all this prattle

02:11:48.220 um uh hey grid one motorsports thank you man uh just for the sake of moving things along we're

02:11:54.700 just going to continue on as is but uh good to have you in the stream man we will get you eventually

02:11:59.340 on the call and i'd rather like pre-schedule it instead of it being like sort of impromptu and

02:12:04.780 spontaneous but uh we will get you on the show eventually my man um whether it's in person or a

02:12:10.460 a call in or something i'd just rather like plan it ahead of time than just

02:12:16.460 impromptu spontaneous but good to you good to hear you in the chat man um well you mentioned feminism

02:12:22.540 really quick so why don't i ask going around the table who here is a feminist starting with you 1.00

02:12:27.900 i don't like claim any kind of side but i guess like if you ask me questions i probably have some

02:12:34.860 takes that are on either side no i wouldn't say i am so you you wouldn't say you're a feminist 1.00

02:12:42.780 no i wouldn't say i'm a feminist just like i'm non-denominational i wouldn't say i'm a feminist no

02:12:49.260 i'm not a feminist i am not a feminist can i ask you to define what that means well i mean there's

02:12:57.980 different definitions people define it differently uh there's a couple different charitable definitions

02:13:05.740 i could give it the way i've described it in the past is this is a charitable excuse me charitable

02:13:11.980 definition is feminism is women's oh it's a woman's advocacy movement and in that sense i would say no

02:13:20.380 it's not it's not an equality movement that's fair and i i actually don't think there's necessarily

02:13:25.980 anything wrong with women's advocacy but it's certainly not in my view it's not an equality

02:13:30.940 movement well i to quote jordan peterson i do think it's like equal opportunity is important

02:13:38.060 but the guaranteed outcome is not is not fair um so yeah i do think that men and women should have

02:13:44.860 equal rights absolutely there should be laws in place to protect women i'm all for that but this

02:13:49.820 hold on why should there be when you say there should be laws in place to protect women 0.58

02:13:55.020 what do you mean because that doesn't sound like equality if the laws are only to protect women

02:14:00.700 that's not really egalitarian is it fair i should have clarified um like a family setting like with

02:14:06.220 children or something like that or maybe the fact that women were the ones who lacked the same equal 1.00

02:14:11.420 rights so that's why there was like even objectively i'm not a feminist and i see a lot of issues 0.97

02:14:17.260 particularly with that second wave feminism um but yeah like you you're not saying that men

02:14:23.660 shouldn't also have rights you're just saying that women had to catch up to the same rights yes but 1.00

02:14:27.500 wanting a bank account and whatever else but right now i i can i think it's fair to say like it goes

02:14:31.980 back to the trans debate too sorry to bring that sorry is that a word i'm not allowed to say on here

02:14:35.980 we were talking about earlier okay um like are there any laws that these people don't have that that

02:14:42.300 we have now or i mean just keep it to men and women but i feel like men and women have do have

02:14:46.940 legally the same rights right now for the most part yeah so i feel like i think it's fair that we

02:14:51.260 can we can probably stop at that um but i think the whole idea of men being trash or evil or bad or 0.98

02:14:57.260 pieces of shit i really can't get on board with that that's just racism it's yeah are you 0.98

02:15:03.740 cpr ice 1824 donated 200 pardon i missed the intro so i don't know your name but divorce i'd like i 1.00

02:15:14.380 shot at the title at the title of what like my next husband yeah i don't get it yeah you're shooting

02:15:20.620 a shot you have her instagram what you look like are you smart are you gonna hide behind a screen

02:15:25.260 see price hey she's open-minded she's asking if you're smart what's your iq and she also wants to know

02:15:31.740 your pp size so please include that in your next chat she's dying to know all these things uh okay

02:15:39.420 so feminists some feminists you're a feminist okay good to know uh we'll touch on feminism a 1.00

02:15:46.700 little later on in the show uh you said in your pre-show notes men being unwilling to commit and

02:15:52.620 expecting physical intimacy without commitment but you can't blame them given the current climate how

02:15:58.780 women are conducting themselves but you're raised relatively traditionally so it's been a real 1.00

02:16:04.540 challenge for you uh just a question for you do you want kids um that's a good question i feel like

02:16:12.300 i would need to have the right partner like i would never want to be a single mother just personal

02:16:16.140 preference i think that'd be really challenging and i think also statistically the studies do show that

02:16:20.700 children do thrive best with both a mother and a father so would i just want a kid to have a kid no if

02:16:26.540 i met a man in the next couple of years who wanted a child and he was the right person yes i would

02:16:31.660 consider that but i don't really want to have a kid after 40 so you don't want to have a well what if

02:16:37.420 you did meet that right guy after 40 i would just have to really consider that i think there's there's

02:16:42.140 some health risks there and i think i physically could right well would you would you want it would not

02:16:49.900 be my preference okay uh you said you're off doc venably donated 200 men with the dark tetrad and

02:16:59.260 women with cluster b are more likely to engage in short-term mating strategies feminism has helped 1.00

02:17:05.740 normalize all this mental pathology that's totally true well put yep very good point uh thank you doc

02:17:13.820 for nably good to see in the chat man you're you're a legend you also said that you're a business

02:17:18.140 owner you're a relatively high earner you're a very driven person so finding a man who can match

02:17:23.100 and ideally top uh that who's also interested in monogamy isn't easy so you're a business owner you

02:17:29.420 say you're relatively high earner i don't know if you can get you want to give us a range in terms of

02:17:33.180 income sure i'm assuming it's six figures yeah i mean there have been years where we've brought in

02:17:39.500 half a million yeah well in revenue or in profit profit okay who's we me oh okay i'm a corporations

02:17:47.980 so okay like all right do you have partners or is it no what's your business for privacy reasons

02:17:53.980 i'd rather not say just because maybe don't say the name but is it uh let's just say marketing like

02:17:58.540 marketing consulting yeah all right it's just yeah so you're making mid to or low to mid six figures

02:18:07.820 in that range yeah okay yeah you said you've had to teach yourself what it means to be feminine and

02:18:15.740 follow not for the right man but in general uh and you're learning how to become the kind of woman

02:18:23.740 that the kind of man i'm looking for would see it worthwhile to commit to required a lot of change

02:18:28.780 and self-reflection on your part so how were you before and how what what did you change um just kind

02:18:34.700 of i think unaware of myself in a lot of ways um in ways that i was not really appearing masculine

02:18:41.100 physically but but kind of acting very masculine if that makes sense was this before or after the

02:18:45.900 tattoos oh this was way before before you got tattoos okay yeah because i'm it just it's interesting

02:18:53.980 to me you said i mean you're 38 now and you had no tattoos and then it was it 34 35 35 and you're

02:19:01.660 right that's a good point it was a very kind of i don't want to say a limiting choice but in some ways

02:19:05.020 a limiting choice for sure but a concession that i pretty consciously chose to make what wait what's

02:19:10.860 the concession um i think that it limits your dating pool i think there's a lot of associations

02:19:15.340 with women who have tattoos which i totally understand so then what i guess why did you 0.51

02:19:19.420 opt to get the tattoos um because i think that i got a very clear idea of my values yeah yeah and i

02:19:29.180 think there are a lot of other ways aside from just how you look physically that you can embody

02:19:33.580 feminine energy as a woman in the sense of letting a man lead um really learning to defer in that way 1.00

02:19:41.020 and fully trust someone and i think a lot of that has to do with doing work on yourself and has

02:19:45.420 absolutely very little to do with tattoos but i am aware of how that can come across visually but i

02:19:50.460 think that just seeing the kind of people that i am attracting into my life now professionally as

02:19:54.780 friends um it's been a real indicator that i'm that i'm on the right path to getting to where

02:20:00.300 i'm going and the tattoos i would not say have affected that in a negative way now you said

02:20:04.380 your seven-year relationship ended four years ago and you've been single for four years in fact

02:20:10.300 you've stated that you've been celibate for that entire four-year period but you are an attractive

02:20:15.580 woman so i mean why i'm i'm imagining that there are men who have uh demonstrated an interest in

02:20:22.060 you uh do you feel as if your standards are too high thank you um

02:20:32.380 or that's possible i think it's i think it's that's always possible right like that we're that

02:20:38.300 we're expecting something that's that's more than maybe what we're worthy of but um i also think a big

02:20:45.020 factor of that is i was kind of a serial monogamous from the time i was like 1920 onwards i was always in

02:20:51.100 like a long-term committed relationship right and i had never really taken the time since i was

02:20:55.740 younger and i lost my virginity to really it sounds really cliche but actually just be by myself and

02:21:01.980 like learn to not like need a partner romantically and taking the time to do that in my 30s the last

02:21:08.220 couple years um i don't think it's so much that i'm like seeking these men and them being rejected so

02:21:14.060 much it's more that like i'm not in a rush to get into something where the person doesn't have the

02:21:19.740 values that i'm looking for it's not really so much about like this guy needs to be six two and

02:21:23.820 making a million dollars and like that that really doesn't matter to me so much it's more just like

02:21:29.740 i'm looking for a very specific set of values and i'm not willing to compromise on those values and

02:21:34.620 because i embody those values i don't feel like i'm shooting too high and i hope that makes sense so

02:21:38.860 it's more about standards to have it's more about integrity it's less like the guy needs to be like

02:21:43.180 rich and really hot like that would be nice but it's actually a different set of things that i'm looking for

02:21:48.460 at this point in my life but in your pre-show notes you said that you're a business owner

02:21:52.060 relatively high earner we talked about that you're a very driven person so finding a man who can match

02:21:58.060 and ideally top that who's also interested in monogamy so that does speak to the values thing

02:22:03.580 yes um but it does seem like you do at the very least want a guy uh would you say you want a guy who

02:22:09.740 in terms of his income uh makes as much or more than you the woman in me does but i understand too that

02:22:18.220 that might not be realistically impossible like possible for me especially at 38 right like

02:22:23.260 because a lot of those men are statistically going to be going for younger women which i totally respect

02:22:28.140 and that's their preference and it makes perfect sense to me um but would it be nice if i met someone

02:22:34.540 who who matched that drive and when i say drive i don't necessarily just mean financial drive as long

02:22:39.660 as they can support themselves and they're like stable it's more drive and they're ambitious right and

02:22:46.140 in their and how ambitious they are and their tenacity and also just having a vision for their

02:22:50.300 life that's important to me all right got it moving to tavia you said you've dated a sexy fireman from 0.97

02:22:58.620 spain that you met in bali indonesia yeah you dated a married couple that are open uh so you were like

02:23:06.620 the third wheel or what do you call that unicorn yeah okay are they still together yeah okay uh you

02:23:16.300 wanted to maybe we'll touch on that thing later uh you said you don't oh here's something you disagree

02:23:23.820 on you don't agree with all the discussion about women's and men's roles in relationships i wanted to ask

02:23:28.940 what specifically um

02:23:35.740 hmm

02:23:38.860 well i think one time yeah loading loading loading one i think one time i like opened up

02:23:45.260 like your podcast and i was like scrolling through and there was just like controversy on like

02:23:50.060 would a man want to be with someone that does sex work and and i was just like what kind of question

02:23:55.900 is that because everybody's so different like why does that one factor matter i feel like someone's

02:24:02.540 job it's like why would why would why would a woman that's young like me want to marry a guy that

02:24:06.860 works a nine-to-five office job that mean to me that seems kind of boring you know like why not

02:24:11.260 a sexy fireman i mean everybody has a different why would it be boring to marry a guy who works a

02:24:15.420 nine-to-five isn't that a perfectly respectful career path to me it's just boring uh so the same

02:24:21.180 objection you have to wanting to date a man who's a blue-collar worker for example who works nine to 0.91

02:24:26.540 five why can't men have the exact same objection to dating a woman who fucks other people on camera

02:24:32.780 no no well i'm just saying i don't like the talk like if the question was like why would a man want

02:24:40.700 to date a sex worker it's like well you could ask that question about anything like why why would you

02:24:45.980 want to date someone from walmart why would you want to date someone who works at a pet store why

02:24:48.940 but everybody's different you know so that topic was like irritating for me because i was like why

02:24:53.900 why is it irritating to you because it just doesn't in my am i like with the work that i've done like

02:25:01.900 i've had two people propose to me already and i've said no and i do sex work and it they didn't see me

02:25:09.660 any differently based on that okay so i mean in terms of the conversations we've had on this show

02:25:16.860 uh honestly i kind of don't really care yeah when it comes to if women do sex work on like i don't 1.00

02:25:23.900 really care but my prescriptive advice that i give to men is dating a woman who is involved in sex work

02:25:32.140 or was involved in sex work is a suboptimal dating choice so maybe that's your objection there um men and

02:25:39.980 men and women can have any preferences standards and boundaries uh that they want but i mean let me

02:25:46.860 ask you a question can you try to argue my position for me so argue why would somebody not want to date

02:25:53.340 a sex worker like can you think of any reasons um maybe someone that's 0.53

02:26:01.500 you know you're about to say insecure it sounded like you're about to say insecure there

02:26:10.460 no i'm not asking what's wrong with that person i'm saying what would be some reasons why somebody

02:26:14.460 would not like negative consequences of dating someone who's involved in sex work maybe someone

02:26:20.220 that has a business they don't want that the idea of their partner to like ruin their reputation sure okay

02:26:27.740 that's a good one yeah um someone that doesn't want to share their person somebody else with

02:26:36.220 anybody else okay what anything else valid oh it's valid yeah well thank you for making my argument

02:26:42.220 for me it's valid i just don't like i just don't like that it's like a common topic that that's just

02:26:49.020 what's irritating to me like why is it always like why would a man want to be with the sex work 0.91

02:26:53.260 well here look just to be charitable just to be charitable women who do sex work invariably will 1.00

02:26:58.380 probably uh there's a bit of a cope when it comes to this conversation i think if a woman's involved 1.00

02:27:06.540 in sex work she'll probably find a guy like this a whole cope of like she's going to be a cat lady 1.00

02:27:11.660 and never find a man it's cope especially if she's you know attractive and not a total piece of 1.00

02:27:17.340 shit she'll probably find a guy uh however i will say and in terms of prescriptive advice to men that i 0.98

02:27:24.860 give i don't recommend it i don't recommend men date sex workers i think it's a sub-optimal dating 0.99

02:27:31.500 choice and sometimes you're not always going to get the most optimum partner in your life but it's it is

02:27:37.580 is significantly sub-optimal in very for various reasons and i think the other thing is um just

02:27:47.100 slipped my mind uh slipped my mind but anyways yeah can i ask you can i ask you please what are your

02:27:56.460 reasons for why it's sub-optimal like why would you sure yeah like she gave some reasons no yeah well

02:28:03.740 okay yeah i'll give you a couple so first off uh for example women who do only fans and actually 1.00

02:28:09.180 try not to bring this topic up just to be i suppose courteous to the women if we do have only fans

02:28:15.740 girls on the show just not to throw your hustle totally under the bus but y'all become 1.00

02:28:21.980 very well practiced in deception and manipulation and lying yep here's why because most of you sell the

02:28:29.180 girlfriend experience and you basically commit in my estimation you commit fraud by saying i'm talking

02:28:37.340 to you i'm not saying all only fans girls do this but most of them do the bigger they are the more

02:28:43.020 likely they are to have for example a typer or to have a chatter but you're advertising yourself as

02:28:49.580 saying i'm talking to you so you become very well versed in fraud and lying and you take you you have no

02:28:57.900 issue with it whatsoever so um you become accustomed you become accustomed and adjusted

02:29:06.700 to making small lies and small lies become big lies so that's one of my issues that i have with it

02:29:12.300 so most of these sex workers are incredibly attuned to manipulation and lying can i defend just my

02:29:20.380 personal experience actually don't we have a tweet related one of some girl had a tweet about

02:29:25.340 this hold on let me see if i don't know oh man i don't know we only have one tweet right nick oh

02:29:34.140 man i could have sworn that i'm gonna double check but uh do you guys acknowledge that girls who do

02:29:40.460 only fans have typers yes many of them many of them yeah that's the ones that are like what do they even

02:29:47.260 put what do they even put in their bio you can talk to me right yeah okay you're lying that that's

02:29:53.180 i'm very it's fraud it's literally fraud very against having okay management companies and all

02:29:58.540 that sure so that's one of my justifications for it in addition to that you uh only fans girls will 1.00

02:30:04.460 typically hide the fact that they're in a relationship so you just become very well versed and practiced in

02:30:10.140 your uh deception and manipulation because if you were honest about the fact that you're dating a guy

02:30:16.620 or you're married or you have a relationship it would hurt your bottom line secondly when it comes

02:30:20.780 to the typing and chatting thing uh if you were telling the guys by the way it's some dude in bangladesh

02:30:26.780 who's getting paid five dollars a day to be sexting with you and you're sexting with the dude it would 1.00

02:30:32.700 hurt your bottom line so you're doing this sort of fraudulent misrepresentation

02:30:37.420 uh on that level i object to it in addition in terms of the actual content that you're making

02:30:44.380 uh and i actually think the fraudulent misrepresentation is worse than the fact

02:30:48.380 that there's nude photos of you uh floating around the internet same we agree on that so

02:30:53.500 for example like sales huh what about people in sales what do you think about them if they're

02:30:59.900 if they're fraudulently if they're making fraudulent claims and they're enticing people it's called uh

02:31:05.420 uh fraudulent i think it's fraudulent inducement into a wait fraudulent misrepresent i can't

02:31:12.620 remember the specific legal term but uh it could open someone up to civil liability if they lie about

02:31:19.260 their product true but people in sales i feel like do it all the time so there's something there's a

02:31:24.860 sales principle called puffery like leaving things out of the well i mean it depends it depends what

02:31:31.820 i would technically consider lying or fraud if something is intentionally left out can i interject

02:31:36.780 when making a sale can i interject because here's the thing i i used to work for jenny craig for three

02:31:42.140 and a half years as a um program director i'm not selling lies i'm selling hope and like the fascination

02:31:48.540 that they're going to be able to to lose weight right you are instilling hope and faith in these men

02:31:53.340 that they have a shot with you so i think that's part of what brian is saying too is sort of like

02:31:57.580 you guys are give you painting this fantasy like oh baby i only want you i'm only thinking of you

02:32:02.700 you're gaslighting them i think everybody's almost all men do to everybody so that they can get into

02:32:08.060 their pants that's 90 okay so if i can acknowledge that that's wrong can you not acknowledge that women 1.00

02:32:13.580 doing it is also wrong i absolutely agree with you i don't have a i'm not disagreeing with you on that

02:32:20.460 okay but i just think that the standard should be the same for men when it comes to their interactions

02:32:24.780 with women because they will also act like oh i want to be with you when they really just want 1.00

02:32:27.980 to sleep with somebody but they're not getting paid for it don't the men already have this

02:32:31.580 understanding we know somebody that gets paid for it we know some men that get paid for it yeah 0.75

02:32:36.540 do these men actually buy into the the thought that these women are interested in them absolutely

02:32:42.300 i mean how much money are they spending i think it's genuinely a fetish for men that they

02:32:47.260 they want degradation i mean and i think at the same time it's also in a way healthy for men that

02:32:53.340 you know need some sort of somebody to talk to and like for me that's what i make my platform about

02:32:59.900 like you have like a place to come and be yourself and express when you're lonely while you're naked 0.96

02:33:04.940 and fingering yourself and only no they i'm talking about them not me but like i think i think sex work 0.87

02:33:12.060 is super important because i think if we didn't have it that there would be a lot of men that what that 0.97

02:33:17.340 have needs that aren't getting met and that makes things dangerous so your argument is if there wasn't

02:33:23.980 sex work that men would just be on a rampage just like essaying 0.83

02:33:27.740 i think it would be scary i mean that's what porn is for the only the only difference between 0.96

02:33:33.100 only fans and porn is that they get a reaction from you as opposed from porn

02:33:37.020 that's the only difference you i mean you are technically porn that's what only fans exactly

02:33:41.900 experience can i ask you something brian are you a do you support capitalism

02:33:47.740 oh you're libertarian okay i know where you're going uh yeah i'm in favor of capitalism okay so

02:33:52.220 there's a market for only fans so do you equally hold the men who create the market accountable

02:33:58.460 yeah i mean i don't hold these men who like pay for these girls only fans in high regard

02:34:04.380 let's say your guy friend comes to you and he's like i want to get this girl's only fan are you

02:34:08.540 just saying well you shouldn't because she's x y and z or should are you also like hey like you

02:34:13.500 should probably contribute to society in a better way than creating this market which objectifies

02:34:17.340 women and can lead to all the negative things that you talk about well there's supply and demand right 1.00

02:34:22.460 so so if you're a capitalist yeah i don't have anything wrong with capitalism i don't actually 0.65

02:34:29.020 frankly i don't give a fuck about sex work but from i i look at it from a dating lens so my prescriptive 0.99

02:34:35.100 advice to men is don't date a woman who has photos of herself fucking other men on camera 0.98

02:34:42.300 and i think that's fine i'm just wondering if you also tell men like hey you probably shouldn't 0.95

02:34:45.900 be subscribed i don't have a double standard on this okay ladies if you don't want everyone that 1.00

02:34:49.900 does only fans fucks my own camera that's fine but it's not like i have a double standard on this

02:34:54.300 women if you don't want to date a man who's a porn star that's totally fine i don't have like 0.73

02:34:59.260 so this is kind of not like a gendered thing necessarily but so do you think really i think

02:35:05.820 like when it comes to dominance in a man i find it way like i find it way more attractive and way

02:35:10.620 more dominant when a man holds other men accountable like that's when i view a man as a real leader

02:35:15.580 it's easy for men to sit around and be like you shouldn't want a woman who does that but it's harder 0.99

02:35:20.060 for a man to be like hey homie you probably shouldn't be subscribing to this shit i make i make this 0.99

02:35:26.060 prescriptive claim all the time i say men you shouldn't even be following women on instagram 0.99

02:35:32.220 you shouldn't i don't follow any girls on instagram you shouldn't be liking their 1.00

02:35:36.620 shit simping for them leaving fucking lame ass comments that's me holding men accountable 1.00

02:35:41.900 men should not do that they shouldn't be paying for of they shouldn't be subscribing to it um 1.00

02:35:47.900 but like i don't really give like would look would society probably be better if there wasn't 0.58

02:35:52.940 like porn and sex work probably at the end of the day though i'm not like i i typically that's

02:35:58.460 why i'm when i do have of girls or sex workers on i'm typically not making actual like

02:36:04.300 criticisms of that specifically it's always from a dating friend a dating lens where i'm basically

02:36:10.540 saying guys suboptimal to date a woman who has an only fans

02:36:17.580 and you're saying it's because of the characteristics but if their porn star no porn porn's worse yeah so 0.88

02:36:22.460 okay i mean while of is there i mean if she just does traditional porn and then she does of 0.97

02:36:30.220 there's like different considerations there i mean look most of these of girls are just like 1.00

02:36:35.500 constant liars they lie about everything we've had them on the show they lie about their age they lie

02:36:42.300 about everything they lie they make up stories for content blah blah blah it's why i'm um in any case so 0.55

02:36:48.860 look i think it is suboptimal so yeah i don't know it's just oh here's the other i mean the other

02:36:57.980 reason i mean i kind of already touched on it it you're

02:37:04.540 as a woman your future husband and children will not appreciate naked photos of you being available on 0.78

02:37:10.460 the internet there's like the potential for bullying for the child um don't have kids and just as

02:37:18.940 somebody they're around meatball donated two hundred dollars thank you brian is right on the money he's

02:37:25.980 a brave thank you man he's a pioneer it's good good to have you back good to have you back uh thank you

02:37:31.020 bro uh look i mean you're doing it it is what it is but uh yeah that's a great comment i think these

02:37:42.220 type of conversations also come up really often because a lot of like the sex workers that we

02:37:47.580 have had on the show are like struggling really hard to find someone christ his lord ski u four yard

02:37:53.100 donated two hundred dollars so the sex industry is helping men the human race got along just fine 0.84

02:38:00.700 without hardcore corn for literally all human history for thousands of years is our society evolving or

02:38:07.820 unraveling unraveling definitely unraveling is what's happening we are unraveling they were hosting like

02:38:16.060 sex parties there's like mentions of like all kinds of orgies and like i mean the romans were 0.79

02:38:21.100 definitely turning up like slabs and yeah go back to greece man they was they was fucking everywhere 1.00

02:38:27.180 they was i mean honestly then naked women were considered art they just and they were statues 1.00

02:38:33.980 everywhere i mean you could argue that it's about the same you could argue that without the same things

02:38:38.700 happening now except they're recording it and selling it you could say that without corn they were doing

02:38:42.860 more in-person of cereal donated two hundred dollars car salesman with a perfect junker jewelry

02:38:50.380 salesman pushing a flawless necklace an insurance salesman with the bulletproof deal an of girl

02:38:57.260 with the wettest content tell me hard her daddy yeah i mean look to your point about you know holding

02:39:05.820 men accountable i don't think they should be subscribing to only fans i don't think that they should be

02:39:10.780 following these ig models on instagram ulysses the pagan donated two hundred dollars the current ceo

02:39:18.540 of of keely blair female running a corn site females just as well can be dirt balls is the ceo of 1.00

02:39:27.340 i thought it was a guy oh no the owners are men of only fans well we know that women i'll do a call

02:39:32.940 to action right now i'll do a call to action to men right now uh we'll start perhaps with something

02:39:37.500 simple to all the guys who are watching right now uh take out your phone if you guys 0.97

02:39:46.140 yo stay safe thank you for the raid dude appreciate it man you're a fucking legend we're 0.86

02:39:50.940 talking about degeneracy guys open up twitch nick guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever stay safe 0.73

02:39:58.540 thank you for the raid man mods can you shout them out uh twitch.tv slash whatever if you just joined

02:40:02.780 from stay safe guys drop us to fall in the prime sub uh because we're about to talk about uh the

02:40:09.420 dating meta of being a world of warcraft player so if you play world of warcraft what that means

02:40:15.500 for your dating prospects now these girls are going to tell you if you have a better shot with them if 1.00

02:40:22.380 you play alliance versus horde you know if you're a gnome mage or gnome warlock like what your chances

02:40:29.100 are um so drop us a follow guys drop us a prime sub if you have one oh we got by the way we don't

02:40:35.980 run i turned off the ads i'm pretty sure on twitch so uh i want to experiment this month see if you know

02:40:42.860 how that how that goes but if you're watching the stream and you're not following drop us do me a little

02:40:49.260 favor boys drop us a little follow in the chat yo stay safe thank you again for the raid man really

02:40:53.500 appreciate it uh i forgot what we were talking about uh we were talking about social deviancy oh

02:40:58.620 i was going to do a call to action okay call to action there's any men watching if you have

02:41:02.460 instagram and you're following any women i guess like if it's like your sister you can stay stay

02:41:08.940 following her uh you're you can follow your sister and your mom that's it what about comedians what if

02:41:15.900 they're interested in one specific woman and they're not just simping for random i still unfollow

02:41:20.300 men can't follow hot chicks so you don't want them to be interested only in men 1.00

02:41:24.380 brian unfollow if you pull out your fucking phone boys unfollow every single girl no it's not look on 0.99

02:41:32.220 instagram if you're following any hot girls and somebody it's a red flag i'm not following red flag 0.99

02:41:38.220 i follow i don't know following one two three four five six

02:41:43.580 i mean thank you for the gifted 10 subs guys just unfollow all these ig models and all that 1.00

02:41:48.780 shit it's question well that's not the majority of women hold on like the majority even if it's a 1.00

02:41:54.380 normie check unfollow her what if you like nowhere oh my god what about like you go to work with her 0.98

02:42:00.220 and you want to see her life's progress comedians or people who have the platform to you know progress

02:42:06.540 entertainment that's not sexual if you're following hillary clinton you can stay no

02:42:11.020 why would you follow hillary clinton just kidding because she keeps hot sauce in her purse that's 1.00

02:42:17.820 why uh yeah never mind she's not she's not black we'll just say that wow wait what that's that's

02:42:27.100 that was in response to like a video where yeah the hot sauce thing where she was pandering 1.00

02:42:31.500 talking to black people oh she was trying to get cool with them like yeah just by saying

02:42:35.260 just to just to reiterate here kind of my objections to when it comes to dating women 0.96

02:42:40.460 who are involved in sex work when it comes to only fans you become on a long enough timeline you become

02:42:44.940 very well versed and practiced in the art of lying and deception change your name change your age

02:42:51.500 lie about your relationship status you lie about everything this starts to become habit typically if

02:42:57.500 people start being becoming practiced in lying it starts to just you keep you know you just keep doing

02:43:04.780 it i'm honest about my age and my relationship and all the others if if an untruth if that untruth

02:43:12.380 brings you closer to fleecing the money out of the pockets of your targets you're going to lie

02:43:20.540 and so a lot of these only fans become very well practiced in this also some of them are involved

02:43:25.580 in like romance scams they're literally scamming the dudes i'm not saying that's the case for you guys

02:43:31.660 we talked about the typers we talked about the chatters you'll lie about oh talk to me baby and

02:43:36.140 then it's some dude that's like most of these most of these of girls have a typer a chatter and it's a 0.62

02:43:42.940 it's a dude you're like basically force you're making these guys gay basically so are you telling 0.88

02:43:49.900 them to unfollow all the women huh that's yeah you're making them gay but that's very that's 0.99

02:43:55.580 very traditional that's very like keep it keep it pg all the time unless you're intending to marry this 0.97

02:44:02.060 chick wait what uh i don't know that's that's a very pg that's like a very i don't know adolescent

02:44:12.780 perspective to be like it's very innocent like what's innocent i have no idea what you're talking

02:44:18.300 about innocent to like unfollow every woman that isn't your sister or your mom wait it's innocent

02:44:24.060 yeah it's innocent so wait are you do you like it i'm a little confused yeah i mean it's innocence is

02:44:30.220 good no what do you what do you what do you mean you better you want you're saying that men unfollowing

02:44:36.140 every other woman is an innocent act it's like a naivety it's it's it would be an innocent act but 1.00

02:44:43.500 in this in this instance here saying seeing as we have stay safe you just joined us 0.98

02:44:48.940 we have wait can you guys not be can you guys i don't know what what are you fucking doing i'm sorry 0.98

02:44:56.700 what are you telling her i can't say it i was telling her something that i wish i could say but i can't say 0.98

02:45:01.340 it because you said we can't say it well okay i was saying if i won't whisper anymore okay what were

02:45:11.580 you can you tell me what it was loosely about well you guys are talking about if a guy unfollows all

02:45:18.460 women on social media i was gonna say that would make him look pretty oh okay you know in that like

02:45:26.380 not straight exactly it's like why is this guy that's what i was saying following a bunch of

02:45:31.100 dudes and no women yay it'd be concerning can it's like why only dudes it's like the guys trying to

02:45:36.780 revert to virginity his holy state but how many women will complain about guys who are following a

02:45:45.180 bunch of random ig thoughts yeah if it's just random ig thoughts then yeah absolutely yeah anyone can

02:45:50.380 be insecure about but you said normies too like that's where the argument is coming anyways so

02:45:54.700 bring it to world warcraft anything on social media it's not really real like well i mean if you're

02:46:00.380 if you're an only fans model you can't have a problem with your guy following other women you're

02:46:05.260 an only fans model yeah exactly yeah like so if if you tell your guy if you're an only fans model 0.97

02:46:12.860 and you're doing all kinds of horny girly shit on only fans you know and then you expect your dude to 1.00

02:46:18.780 respect you and not follow other women you're delusional you're delusional to think that your 0.99

02:46:23.340 guy's not going to follow other women think like even cares about that like why is my dudes following 0.99

02:46:27.340 other girls because women are dumb and they do they get upset i've i've known plenty of only fans women 1.00

02:46:34.300 who are like i can't believe he's following this girl that bitch you are undressing in front of a 1.00

02:46:39.580 bunch of men all over the world how dare you have that even remotely double standard that your guy can't 0.99

02:46:45.020 do what you're already doing and you're promoting it and you're pushing it on them and you are

02:46:49.660 manipulating and you are lying and you're deceiving these other men you because not me my dude watches

02:46:55.020 porn i love it i'm not saying every woman i'm not saying every but a majority of them i don't know 0.96

02:47:00.940 and just the last thing i'm i'm kind of territorial so i don't want other men to be like looking

02:47:06.700 at my girl like that a lot of men are and that's i mean that's what i mean a lot of guys look at a

02:47:13.260 woman and that's monogamy that's what monogamy thinking things if they're attracted to them you 1.00

02:47:18.860 can't be an only fans model and then say you're a monogamist there's just no way you can't say

02:47:23.500 monogamish you can't yeah you can't you can't you can't even represent the whole monogamy thing 0.91

02:47:30.620 because of what you do because it is a double standard it's it's hypocritical it's hypocrisy 0.88

02:47:36.460 i mean if you're not sleeping with anybody else and you're not meeting up with anybody else you're

02:47:40.780 sharing your body you're sharing your body and these personal things that should be only reserved

02:47:46.220 for the person that you're with or married to if you're married and you're an only fans model and 0.99

02:47:51.660 you're sharing your body on the internet and i can pay to see your vagina hole you are not a 1.00

02:47:57.340 monogamous woman i'm sorry you're showing your private parts to other people who are not your 1.00

02:48:02.460 husband because when you take that vow when you get married you're vowing to be for that other

02:48:08.780 person and only for that other person unless you're polyamorous it's a completely different

02:48:12.940 thing but if you i mean maybe if that's what you vow though i mean everybody you can vow different

02:48:17.100 let me ask you let me ask you a question you do you plan on being in a monogamous relationship

02:48:21.740 at some point in your life yes okay are you going to do it before or after you leave only

02:48:26.860 fans there around meatball donated two hundred dollars would you guys quit of all making any

02:48:33.900 kind of content if you were in a relationship exactly thank you mr meatball that's that's exactly

02:48:38.940 my question yeah is the man gonna like make up for the i don't do only fans but just hypothetically

02:48:45.660 is a man gonna make up for the financial differences like are you going to be a provider

02:48:49.660 and substitute whatever they were making why should he have to why should i have to give it up

02:48:55.340 yeah you know everybody has a right because you want to be in a monogamous relationship 0.92

02:49:00.220 wait that's you're assuming that they want to be in a monogamous but that's why i asked i i asked her 1.00

02:49:04.460 and she said yes she wants to be in a monogamous relationship married but it's sort of a false

02:49:09.100 equivalent equivalence like it would make more sense to say would you be okay with your man doing only

02:49:13.660 fans some guys are okay some guys think it's it's hot and they get turned on by it and and that's

02:49:18.940 literally and then once the once the honeymoon phase is over and he leaves you because he can't

02:49:24.140 take it anymore then what but this for me this isn't forever this is right but that's why i said

02:49:30.780 for your 20s express my sexuality and and saving money and that's why i said your 20s is for 0.93

02:49:36.380 fucking around finding out who you are so you know you're not quite at the threshold where you should 0.97

02:49:41.420 be figuring yourself out yet but you should probably stop only fans before you figure yourself out 0.98

02:49:47.260 um i mean i'm not figuring myself out right now different everyone has different tolerances for

02:49:53.420 social deviancy and sexual deviancy yeah and any rational guy going into a relationship

02:50:01.660 or looking for a potential relationship he's not going to seek a woman who is putting herself out there 0.79

02:50:07.740 um as a sexual being to other men to other men there's gonna be a lure like guys look for a

02:50:16.860 lure in women they do look for a little bit of competition but that's not competition that's like

02:50:23.020 i just think it's crazy it's just exposure for like a whole group well no but here's the thing

02:50:27.340 i don't think that's most most men most men that are okay with it are not high value men i mean i would

02:50:33.580 not and they're not the men that you're going to want to marry exactly what these two what these

02:50:37.260 two ladies just say i think one thing that might be forgotten here and again no judgment honestly no

02:50:42.620 judgment but one thing that i that i think might be being forgotten here is that what men and i am

02:50:49.340 generalizing here but generally speaking i think that what men fall in lust with is very different than

02:50:55.660 what men fall in love with and i think a lot of times maybe because of the way we were raised the way we

02:51:00.780 value or don't value ourselves i think especially as women i've seen a lot of people conflate those

02:51:06.700 two things and i think it causes a lot of pain on both ends i think a lot of men are very confused too

02:51:12.300 do you do bg content no you only do solo content okay so i mean obviously there's scales to it like a

02:51:19.820 girl who's only done like lingerie stuff on only fans it's not quite as suboptimal it's girl who's done like

02:51:25.900 like gang bangs and sex you know and like bg content but in my opinion but it's still suboptimal

02:51:33.580 like if some like to me like my standards right like i would never go and do mainstream porn because 0.96

02:51:38.220 to me like i just can't do that with sex like and and i think if to me a woman doing mainstream porn 1.00

02:51:45.900 and having sex with a bunch of different men literally on camera like you can see yeah that's 0.87

02:51:50.140 different that's bad that's not a vibe i think a woman that does boy girl content on only fans with 1.00

02:51:55.900 her partner her boyfriend husband whatever it is and then and then maybe a divorce happens and it 0.91

02:52:01.260 doesn't work out and now she wants to date someone else is that person gonna judge her for having sex 1.00

02:52:05.820 with someone else whether it's on camera or not like you're gonna be upset that your your girlfriend

02:52:13.100 that was dating people before you had sex with other people yeah okay can i have a question i have

02:52:17.900 a question i have a question do you believe that doing only fans does that give you confidence does

02:52:24.220 that build your confidence do you feel more confident because you do only fans i i think

02:52:30.300 actually yeah because i think it's a false sense of confidence because here's the here's the reason why

02:52:34.940 i say this because only fans gives you confidence because it's based on looks it's only based on looks 0.78

02:52:40.220 you're not having pulitzer prize conversations with people that are checking out your titties and 0.99

02:52:44.620 your vagina so the second the only fans is done or your looks fade then what are you left with what 1.00

02:52:50.700 are you left with well i think i mean obviously none of us really know each other that well but like 0.99

02:52:55.580 before i did only fans i had my own remodeling company at the age of 19 but again doing manual labor

02:53:02.380 remodeling and uh i actually that's my passion and that's i want to own an all women's construction

02:53:07.660 company one day and uh this is just something that's fun for me and i have oh my god who the

02:53:15.100 hell can't oh the ma the construction company well just just to add to her point it's just like 1.00

02:53:25.580 obviously there's an answer to belittle her goals like they're just just your goals are valid if you

02:53:31.100 have this alternative path that you want to seek then why what is the appeal in dueling only fans to

02:53:39.660 you and what do you think it is the appeal of doing only fans to a multitude of women that actually do

02:53:45.900 it i think it's for me it's an ability to make a a great like future for myself without a man like

02:53:53.740 i don't need a man in my life and if there is one that wants to be there and love me for where i'm at

02:53:59.340 and actually knows me and like what i've been through then i don't think they would can i can

02:54:03.420 i suggest something the quality of man and human that i think you're going to want later in life

02:54:09.180 is the kind of man who's going to want to be needed by you i think y'all would be surprised who

02:54:15.420 subs only fans like y'all have this idea that it's like the kind of man that you want is not

02:54:20.300 going to subscribe to only fans those are the exact guys that are subscribed yeah people just don't

02:54:24.940 know yeah give an example it's the preachers that are buying institutes yeah but i'm not looking to

02:54:31.660 marry a preacher hold on hold on i'm going to make things very simple you're saying it okay no it's

02:54:37.900 not so your original question do you want to just restate your original question to me is like why am i

02:54:44.300 what why do i object to dating an of girl is that was that your original question um i don't even think

02:54:52.540 it was a question it was just the original thing was like the topic that i brought up i just here

02:54:56.220 like look i'll pull up i'll pull up the notes uh okay so you don't agree with all the discussions

02:55:01.260 about women's and men's role in relationships and then you went to there mm-hmm okay i agree with

02:55:07.500 matt by now on your only fans you state that you have daddy issues so a girl needs some daddy daddy's

02:55:15.180 plural lol which seems to indicate that you a pick me girl well it seems to indicate that you

02:55:21.820 would entertain multiple men so you've already made an admission on your own only fans that you

02:55:27.340 have an inclination towards dating multiple men this is obviously a massive red flag although given

02:55:33.260 given that i said that that people bullshit on only fans you could certainly be lying you also say here 0.63

02:55:38.140 you can see me fully nude squirt give jo eyes striptease role play get the full girlfriend experience 0.97

02:55:45.980 request customs and you love to spoil and be spoiled so you're giving the girlfriend experience

02:55:51.340 so if i was dating you for example and you had you're giving 10 other men the girlfriend experience

02:55:56.540 uh i'm getting your divided romantic attention and sexual attention 0.99

02:56:01.580 wait do you have a typer yes or no no hmm you sure my page isn't big enough for that your page

02:56:13.420 isn't big enough once it is like i will make it very clear like um you're gonna make it clear she'll

02:56:17.740 get a typer then you're paying a guy in bangladesh ten dollars a day someone is

02:56:23.100 helping me sell my contract yeah you're really gonna put that in your of by the way the guy the

02:56:28.220 guy who's pretending to be me that's a dude yeah i mean i think you'd say that really she would 0.99

02:56:33.340 never she would never say that is like putting who into a box all the girls that do only fans 0.99

02:56:38.860 everybody has a box am i putting them in the fact that they have typers and chatters which is

02:56:42.620 well like saying that they all that all of them i don't think all of them lie you don't think all

02:56:47.100 of them i know for a fact they don't really enjoy but it's isn't the majority though it's

02:56:50.780 like 70 percent it's probably you guys lie about oh my god all of it everything um in any case so

02:56:58.460 i do want to make some world of warcraft related comments here so dating and only fans girl

02:57:04.620 nick can you lower the volume just a little bit is kind of subpar you know it's like a pretty weak

02:57:10.460 build you know like this best in slot it's gonna be a girl who doesn't even have an instagram 1.00

02:57:15.980 probably kind of a shy girl to be honest um like

02:57:22.540 yeah for the streets um like i don't know some guys look some guys i'll give it to you

02:57:29.740 they'll still date you they don't care about min maxing they're happy with no f girl maybe just like

02:57:34.620 running five mans and shit you know like they're never gonna raid molten core like they're never gonna 0.84

02:57:38.940 get they'll just like do five mans like for their whole like world of warcraft career and they're 0.88

02:57:43.660 gonna like have a suboptimal build and like if they ever do maybe they'll do like a pug

02:57:48.380 raid and they'll like maybe parse in like the 50 percentile but they're happy to just get some

02:57:53.660 dungeon loot here like maybe if they're lucky they'll get like a purple like one of those 0.51

02:57:57.820 shit tier purples from like the uh like a five-man raid you know like maybe that maybe if they're rogue 0.91

02:58:03.900 they'll get fell striker from rend in ubrs you know upper black rock spire but you know me 0.97

02:58:10.300 personally i want those 99 parses and that's why like me personally i wouldn't date a girl who does 0.95

02:58:15.580 only fans and you know but these guys who are like in dad guilds and wiping on lucifron and molten core

02:58:21.340 yeah like they'll you know like noobs they'll probably can you put on the the math symbols

02:58:27.580 what do you mean anyways you know like you know like wiping like the guys who are wiping on lucifron

02:58:34.060 like they'll probably date like an only fans girl it's because they can't get anybody else

02:58:39.100 that was impressive can you put on the math symbols the one the one where you're doing

02:58:43.740 all the calculating at this table are probably really turned on right now what the one where

02:58:47.100 you're doing all the calculating it's too late the moment has passed all right maddie can you read

02:58:52.300 this oh their armed meatball donated two hundred dollars give me tear gear or give me death 0.92

02:58:59.180 yo mr meatball give me tear gear or give me death well put dude mr meatball some 0.99

02:59:03.180 fucking tier three nax rama shit can you boost the audio nick um but uh yo mr meatball once again 0.99

02:59:10.540 hold on let me hit you with the he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer good to have you 0.99

02:59:15.100 good to have you back man okay uh maddie can you read yeah this one sec it's coming in

02:59:25.260 panel million dollar question why call yourself a feminist that seems exclusive why not call 1.00

02:59:30.700 yourself a humanist or equalist well you're the only person who said you're a feminist right so

02:59:34.780 yeah do you want to answer that one well i before i was continuously calling myself a female advocate

02:59:40.940 and not necessarily a feminist but i do consider myself a feminist because the differences between

02:59:46.940 men and women given not necessarily the physical stature and but like intellectual capacity between

02:59:54.700 men and women is so negligible and you're never going to be able to quantify it so how the heck can

03:00:00.300 you discriminate one against the other i think men and women are now competing for their spot in

03:00:09.180 the workplace for instance and why call myself a feminist not a humanist uh i don't know it's

03:00:17.740 the terminology feminist is specific to females and uh catching up in the rat race so and a humanist 1.00

03:00:28.860 i mean i don't i'm also of the opinion that feminist feminism is not always going to be a necessary 1.00

03:00:35.580 force in the world like there will be a point where feminism is not needed because women will 1.00

03:00:43.100 have equal rights to men do we not have equal rights now well not in all parts of the world but

03:00:49.580 what about in the united states in the united states i would say it's fairly equal the only thing that i

03:00:55.740 wait hold on hold on hold on what's going on in texas i don't know all the controversy that that's

03:01:03.100 just happened in texas with what everybody knows women's rights i don't women's rights what what 0.99

03:01:09.340 women's rights they're now denying um like medical abortions for women from what i understand like

03:01:15.900 even if it poses a risk to the woman's health they basically have to be dying they literally 0.96

03:01:19.980 have they have to be dying in order to get help yeah okay so let me ask you a question let's assume

03:01:25.500 that they did allow abortion under those circumstances would you still feel that

03:01:29.900 there is an abridgment of women's rights if all other abortions were outlawed 0.65

03:01:37.580 or is it only the the only abortions you care about are the ones where the woman's life is at risk

03:01:45.020 um oh wait hold up repeat that one more time one more time well you you guys are citing to an

03:01:51.740 extreme example here that women even women well that's just an example that's happening right you

03:01:56.220 you asked for an example like that's an example right so you're you're fine so just so i understand

03:02:00.300 are you saying you're fine with abortion being banned but it should be allowed in the scenario where

03:02:05.340 women their lives are at risk i just think women should be able to have control over their own 0.99

03:02:10.780 health and their bodies like you support abortion so you're pro-choice regardless yeah just i'm pro-choice

03:02:16.220 okay okay what does that have to do with women's like like equality because right now women literally 1.00

03:02:23.580 have to be dying but but when it comes okay when it comes to feminism and equality you're the the 0.92

03:02:30.620 the viewpoint the standpoint is in comparison to men in comparison to men men have no reproductive rights at all

03:02:40.220 it's not clear to me if abortion rights have anything to do with inequality insofar as men have no option at

03:02:49.100 all when it comes to reproductive rights so it's not evidence it's not because it's not men can't

03:02:57.820 it's not your medical right but if men don't have any sort of say at all wouldn't equality actually be

03:03:05.500 for abortion to be entirely illegal wouldn't that be equality

03:03:13.100 i don't know if it if it's not even something that you can compare because men don't carry

03:03:17.660 children so this is such a redundant conversation it's not redundant because if we're having a

03:03:21.900 conversation and health and like men don't have to have kids so like if a woman is on the verge of

03:03:28.540 dying and that's i think that's more of a human health care it's like health it's like health care

03:03:33.500 right but it's not about it's not about um it's not coming from a viewpoint of equal like men have

03:03:41.260 this right and women don't it's more of a human rights issue right because a male can't carry babies 1.00

03:03:48.220 so you can't even compare the two things well it's mainly a man has the choice on whether or not he

03:03:52.620 wants to get the snip snip right or if he wants to nut so does a woman right but do you want a nut in 1.00

03:03:58.460 there like that's you that's that's that's the caveat you're basically when it comes to men you're

03:04:04.060 basically a bronze bronze age pro-lifer oh okay so let me ask you a question 0.77

03:04:13.420 is consenting to sex as a man consenting to fatherhood yes yes yes okay as a woman is consenting

03:04:23.180 to sex consenting to motherhood yes not to me it's not okay so let me ask you a question

03:04:31.740 would you ever tell a woman who was inclined to get an abortion and if she didn't want a child would

03:04:36.140 you okay let me let me walk it back a little bit what would you tell a man who got a girl pregnant 0.99

03:04:43.420 and he didn't want to get a girl pregnant what would you tell him if she wanted to keep the kid and he

03:04:48.220 didn't um tell her i would say that just be the best father that you can and uh because it is

03:04:57.820 what if he's upset about the root this reality that he's about to face he has an option to sign his

03:05:03.900 rights away no he doesn't without no he doesn't it's a thing okay hold on they don't tend to do it

03:05:12.060 very often okay but would you tell him something would you tell him something along the lines of 0.87

03:05:18.220 tough you should have thought of that before having sex with her your option would sometimes

03:05:24.620 so maybe it depends on the relationship your option some people that get pregnant 1.00

03:05:29.500 to some of the men i'm like why would you even sleep with that guy i mean i mean you can't just

03:05:34.620 sleep you just shouldn't have a double standard if you're going to be pro-choice and then you can't

03:05:38.140 tell men you shouldn't have had sex if you knew what it could lead to if you wouldn't say the same

03:05:41.980 thing to women i'm not going to victim blame but it's you're literally i just think that's like 1.00

03:05:47.180 that's the same thing that pro-lifers say to women oh well you should have kept your legs closed

03:05:54.380 not that i agree to that but i think that's a horrible thing to say

03:06:00.300 but i mean can we all agree that that's a double standard though like yeah i mean there's

03:06:04.700 a double standard there's always a risk nutting inside that's different because there's options 0.99

03:06:08.700 like condoms oral anal pulling out like cool you came in there you can still have sex without 0.99

03:06:17.180 impregnating someone birth control right but let's say that like the woman lies about let's say the 1.00

03:06:22.940 woman lies about being on birth control or lies about her fertility well then let's say she's a bad 1.00

03:06:29.260 situation let's let's even say let's even say she is on birth control but a pregnancy a pregnancy 0.99

03:06:35.180 still happens or you did take precautions but you know sometimes it can happen in that case i feel

03:06:43.180 like he don't need to worry because the mom is probably feeling the same way like oh this was an

03:06:50.060 accident well what if she keeps the kid and he didn't want a kid 0.78

03:06:53.660 i mean you have to consider the reasons for why people of like biological age do not want children

03:07:04.700 and it's because of social circumstances and financial circumstances most of the time they're

03:07:09.340 not ready or they can't have them they can't well i mean yeah that's more of like a

03:07:16.060 okay that's a so wait what's your what do you what's your argument my argument is that essentially

03:07:21.660 when you're sorry i got interrupted so i can't remember go on it's it's like 0.89

03:07:32.860 why do you not want to have a kid it's for certain reasons so you shouldn't be having sex 1.00

03:07:37.980 if you're not ready to have a kid and you're not willing to take the precautions to

03:07:44.620 i don't even know what you're trying i don't even know what you're trying to say look ultimately what

03:07:48.300 i'm trying to say is is that this conversation about abortion being like some inequality that

03:07:55.100 women face it has nothing to do with equality or inequality men don't have any reproductive rights

03:08:03.420 so if we're if we're talking about this from the lens of equality the actual equality would be for

03:08:09.660 abortion to be outright banned in the united states yeah it's a human rights issue it's not a

03:08:14.220 it's not well it's it's within the purview of women's rights but it's not from like a 0.75

03:08:22.700 a comparison point of view in terms of the the framework is not about equality no

03:08:30.460 but it's not women women not having the right it's not always possible women not having the right

03:08:36.060 to have an abortion in texas is not evidence of inequality that's what i'm trying to argue i didn't

03:08:41.420 already it's i don't know somebody was for me i mean for me it's like a health thing if a man

03:08:46.940 wants to go into a there and we call donated two hundred dollars it's the dave chapel joke if they

03:08:53.180 can decide to have a kid you should be able to abandon them but generally don't expose yourself to

03:08:59.180 downside risk you aren't willing to experience well put mr meatball if women are allowed to murder 1.00

03:09:05.100 the kid the man should at least be able to abandon and walk away absolutely but that that would be

03:09:12.300 equal uh unfortunately that's not an option in any state whatsoever that's not true what about sperm

03:09:18.380 donors what women who are looking to have children yeah that's not really super related though maddie can

03:09:27.580 you read this chat why do women consent to sex but not consent to the possibility of life sex leads

03:09:37.100 to procreation that's simply biology newly right-wing girl i love your content brian it's changed my life

03:09:43.500 thank you yo ashley b good to uh good to have you in the chat thank you for the message appreciate it

03:09:49.180 very much thank you ashley you are a legend and a scholar okay kevin so sorry jane zanesville

03:09:58.140 i don't really get it me neither somebody who's jane zanesville so sorry jane all right kevin oh was

03:10:05.420 she the one that got mauled by the bear no that was something miller i don't think so rest in peace to

03:10:11.980 the woman who got mauled though that was intense okay where were we in our notes we were talking to

03:10:19.260 tavia here let's go back to tavia you dis was there anything else you disagreed on or come on there was

03:10:29.100 more that was definitely that's definitely it honestly you said you don't agree with all the

03:10:35.500 women humiliation that happens on the show i know it's intentional and for the viewers so what

03:10:40.780 specifically do you mean by excuse me the women humiliation that happens on the show well i mean

03:10:47.020 just like

03:10:50.060 like intentionally talking about things and doing things to like incite a reaction that you know is

03:10:55.100 going to happen because literally like i watch one of the podcasts and you started doing the warlock

03:11:00.860 talk and then you're literally zooming in on the girls in space that are like annoyed at you for 1.00

03:11:05.100 talking about it because they're like clearly you know most of us have no idea about warlocks and

03:11:10.860 it's like intentionally because you're talking about world of warcraft or whatever and it's like bruh

03:11:19.100 how how is wouldn't that be more me humiliating myself than me humiliating women talking about

03:11:24.620 world of warcraft yeah he's he's he's casting himself under the bus that's a 50 dkp minus what the 0.99

03:11:32.220 fuck was that shit that was funny um anything so just is that the that's that was your gripe the 0.99

03:11:41.420 world of warcraft stuff i just like things like that yeah okay give me can you provide one example 0.99

03:11:48.380 of a time i humiliated a woman on the show well i mean i probably have to be honest but but that was

03:11:53.260 just one of the examples can you give me another example you wrote it i'm just that's the only that's

03:11:58.940 one of the examples i don't example honestly i've watched a lot of like the viral clips of of of

03:12:04.300 this podcast and it's not you ever humiliating them it's them humiliating themselves because i i

03:12:11.580 couldn't wrap my mind around the girl who cried because he asked her well what's misogynist and she 1.00

03:12:18.940 started crying and left i could i wanted to strangle her i wanted to throat punch her like are you 1.00

03:12:24.700 kidding me grow the fuck up punch yeah i mean yeah that was sad though it wasn't sad it was stupid 1.00

03:12:30.780 she was stupid she was dumb for acting like a baby don't go on a podcast that's going to talk about 1.00

03:12:36.060 these topics if you can't handle it if you're gonna sit there and cry like a little bitch everyone's 1.00

03:12:40.380 gonna have everyone's gonna have unique reactions i didn't so she deserved it but yeah it is that it 0.99

03:12:47.260 is definitely socrates quote trust not when a woman weeps for what is that is that white woman tears

03:12:53.100 or uh that's what she was doing white woman tears play-doh is it play-doh or i don't know maybe chat 1.00

03:12:58.380 find me the find me the quote but uh uh so okay can you provide one example of a time i humiliated a

03:13:05.900 woman on the show well i didn't say that i said or here this is this is what you wrote you said i don't

03:13:14.380 agree with all the women women plural all the women humiliation that happens on the show i know it's

03:13:21.740 intentional and for the viewers that was my example that that's what i was talking about

03:13:27.100 with the video game thing and just doing it to inside a reaction and then are you saying just

03:13:33.260 like showing that girls are annoyed or something how's that humiliating to women you just sit there 0.93

03:13:39.420 doing it to entice entice a reaction that you know is the reaction you're gonna get

03:13:45.260 it's but it's most of the people actually the reality is when i do the world of warcraft thing

03:13:49.740 like five people think it's funny and everyone else is like l l l cringe cringe cringe i hate it when 0.53

03:13:55.580 he does this like in the chat i just do it because i want to do it yeah we all think it's

03:14:03.500 that was literally uh so okay can you give me one example one give me one example there's

03:14:12.620 there's that was my example i don't have a better example hours of me doing this podcast wait we've

03:14:17.900 done like a hundred what 160 something shows what is this 168 brian to be fair she's only watched

03:14:25.020 like two podcasts yeah i think you're just letting the hours a lot of hours maybe

03:14:30.540 i don't even think i've been alive for as many hours maybe she thinks maybe she thinks that

03:14:36.060 you're letting these women do you oh go ahead maybe maybe she thinks that you're letting these 1.00

03:14:40.700 women embarrass themselves like but that's literally their choice because they select to come onto the 1.00

03:14:45.500 podcast i mean that was my example to that statement so maybe it's not the best one but that's it that's

03:14:50.220 all i got for you okay all right you can't control that necessarily but i mean i'm only responsible

03:14:56.060 for the words that come out of my mouth somebody comes on here and says some

03:14:59.340 shit that's that's them what was that noise but i do have a question okay so whenever you're 0.97

03:15:06.940 selecting thumbnails what criteria are you selecting your thumbnails based off of are you upset that i 0.95

03:15:13.340 didn't put you in the thumbnail no look at this she's jealous i don't give a okay put me in the 1.00

03:15:20.860 thumbnail i'm the star i'm the star of the show i'm the sky of the show what the hell i'm i'm the 0.82

03:15:29.660 a side of this you're the b side you should have put me in the goddamn thumbnail yeah instead of that 0.86

03:15:37.420 thought daughter by the way nick is there an improvement in the focus on my side or is it still 0.76

03:15:42.380 kind of out of focus out of focus or just a little bit okay maybe i'll try to adjust it uh anyways uh

03:15:52.860 wait hold on wait wait hold on this goes wait wait wait you have a tweet this is the tweet i didn't i

03:15:58.540 know we're not going to pull it up i looked at your twitter you have a tweet that reads did you know that

03:16:04.540 most of these only fans pages are run by men or i don't know i don't know why you brought immigrants

03:16:09.500 into the or immigrants and you're most likely not even talking to a woman with women you need a we

03:16:16.140 need women i need to help you out a little bit yeah there's one woman women whatever not even 0.99

03:16:20.780 talking you're most likely not even talking to a woman well i'm here to help because i 100 run my page

03:16:27.580 and you'll be chatting with me directly i'm 21 and fun and thriving hope to see you there that was

03:16:33.900 a sales hook by the way yeah love that was that was your that's your sales i mean that was good

03:16:38.540 yeah and it appeals to your issue and you literally talking about your issue huh yeah she's satisfying

03:16:45.340 that i'm literally fine you're like yeah exactly what you said but you're using it you kept saying

03:16:51.340 like you keep boxing assault right right you literally admitted to it yeah you admitted to it on your

03:16:57.020 twitter right you did i say everyone did i use the word i wonder if we can find it hold on let me

03:17:02.060 see if i can find it i'm going to try to find those but that's the thing though you're using you're using

03:17:06.620 the negativity that there is out there about the only fans to your advantage to try to sell more

03:17:11.900 people to come to your page so you are being just as manipulative as though people that they're using men

03:17:19.500 i relate to that like i've definitely posted some salty things because as someone who does do all all

03:17:25.900 the work it is so hard to see like them top 0.0 making the million dollars being like can you try

03:17:32.380 to find it on my page and you know they you know they don't they have like tens of thousands of

03:17:37.020 subscribers but us we probably have like 500 what about you like like a thousand okay i mean even when

03:17:43.580 i did have a thousand before i had a boyfriend so yes i have i make half the income i used to make

03:17:48.620 it i was still possible and i did not need to hire anybody but i do get salty and i've made some of

03:17:56.060 those kind of posts myself even though it's frowned upon in the industry to like throw people you're

03:18:01.260 literally throwing your other competition under the bus just to try to get i'm not proud of it i'm not

03:18:06.300 proud of it but i've had weak moments where i'm just like but that's hypocrisy ladies that's hypocrisy 1.00

03:18:11.900 because like that would be like me being a realtor and being like is your realtor lazy i'll do what

03:18:17.020 they won't do it's essentially the same thing like she's proving that not all of them are manipulative

03:18:23.340 and lying like she really does run her own page which brian should be happy with because it's honest

03:18:29.180 well here's the thing though even if she wasn't running her own page she would still lie about it

03:18:35.740 how do you know that's what they do no but you're saying now you're saying all only from only fans

03:18:40.380 girls lie but honestly if a man is going to come on to a girl that literally has is like 3.5 million 0.97

03:18:47.500 followers on instagram and has only fans and they're going to come on there and think actually

03:18:53.580 that they're talking to that girl i mean is it is who who's liable here like is who

03:19:01.980 if who like if you were if you were we gonna blame the girl or the guy because the guy should 0.52

03:19:06.060 have enough common sense to know and the girl's just providing a service like if you were lying 0.97

03:19:11.100 about this would you be willing to pay me a thousand dollars

03:19:16.620 wait say that again would you be what if if it's actually not true that you

03:19:21.580 that you don't have typers would you be willing to pay me a thousand dollars

03:19:24.220 if it's if it's actually not true so if you're lying about the fact that you respond to all your

03:19:30.380 of messages would you pay me a thousand dollars

03:19:35.580 if you're not lying would you pay him a thousand dollars

03:19:40.620 no if you're lying

03:19:42.540 you do have a typer would you pay him a thousand dollars if i had a typer i would say it

03:19:47.260 would you you would not tell you would not tell your yeah not lying you would not tell your only

03:19:53.420 fans audience if you're making buku dollars you're not going to tell these these men that

03:19:58.940 you have a typer there's no way if you're if you're with a guy let's say you're chatting with

03:20:02.940 a guy right and he says i'll give you five thousand dollars right now i'll give i'll give you

03:20:09.260 five thousand dollars right now if you tell me you don't have a boyfriend and i'm the only man

03:20:13.900 you're talking to are you going to lie to him and tell him that you have a boyfriend are you

03:20:17.340 going to lie to him and tell him that you don't have a boyfriend and tell him you're the only man

03:20:20.780 that i want right now for five thousand dollars yes you are she can't yes thank you thank you

03:20:27.100 she can't even answer it because she has a typer in that instance

03:20:33.420 i had a typer then i guess they would i then i guess they would so thank you what they what would

03:20:37.740 they answer on your behalf is you lying because if if you're telling everyone you don't have a

03:20:42.700 typer right you're telling everyone on twitter and everyone out there hey guys i'm the only girl

03:20:47.180 on only fans that doesn't have a typer but even though you don't have a typer you're still lying

03:20:51.820 and manipulating if you're willing to take five thousand dollars from a man on the promise that

03:20:56.700 you don't have a boyfriend and that he's the only one you're talking to she didn't say yes though

03:21:00.940 she did say yes this is a bunch of side tangent hypothetical yeah she did say yes but it's true

03:21:07.180 i would say no because i'm not willing to i'm not i'm not i'm not gonna pay a thousand dollars

03:21:13.820 for you could really fabricate anything on the internet if you have some kind of proof or whatever

03:21:20.220 that she like who knows that could be so doctored there's really no way to prove it

03:21:26.060 interesting trust are you about to bust out like some uh some dirt on her no he ain't got nothing

03:21:38.540 i've seen him like be like oh yeah you say you're a virgin well someone sent me like anyways anyways

03:21:45.180 moving on we're gonna get to who do we get to we're gonna get to alissa here alissa you said your entire

03:21:51.020 marriage married to a narcissist your words not mine you could recount moving wait oh you guys

03:22:00.300 moved in together the second time you hung out yes i didn't know about love bombing or any of us

03:22:05.740 you said there was there's manic love bomb phase yeah that was fun okay so getting married having kids 0.90

03:22:12.140 and then the crazy narc shit that led you to file for divorce you can also talk about your dom 1.00

03:22:19.420 experience with a sissy submissive what uh so yeah why don't we talk about that the sissy 1.00

03:22:27.580 submissive thing you domed a i've domed a few people but um this particular one is funny um 0.99

03:22:36.140 so he was like yo you're kind of a bitch and i'm like yeah i know so what's that like it's a good 1.00

03:22:40.780 friend of mine and um i'm like yeah so like what's up and he's like well i just think you have like dom 0.99

03:22:45.740 energy and and i'm like what the fuck i didn't know anything about kink stuff at that well not 0.82

03:22:50.780 that level of kink stuff at the time i was i don't know i was young anyway uh long story short 0.94

03:22:56.620 he came over in like a french maid outfit with in chastity and i'm pretty sure i kept him locked for

03:23:03.180 like several months wait actually locked oh the chastity yeah yeah yeah and like you actually

03:23:09.740 shrink at some point so he's lost um they're all right for donated 200 dollars yikes to all these

03:23:18.220 things because if he's yeah yeah major yikes dude so like and like big yikes big yikes he would like

03:23:25.500 clean my house thank you mr maple with like a boat plug and i would like hit the button every so

03:23:29.340 often but to further humiliate him i invited my friend over oh my god who is this before your

03:23:33.900 husband yes i was so young oh my god i was like 19 at the time was he young exploring he's like

03:23:40.620 essentially my i want to go home um but yeah so like if he didn't if he wasn't like on his

03:23:46.780 hands and knees then i would like pour the out of the dustpan and make him clean it up again and 0.74

03:23:51.260 um and then like if you have a sissy sub like if they do ever come to climax like they have to look 0.98

03:23:59.820 it up stuff like that what yeah that's fucking disgusting i'm yeah it is 100 it is what would 0.99

03:24:07.660 you get this it's funny that's disgusting i mean most of my subs have paid me you see what you just 0.97

03:24:12.700 said on youtube but like i don't like i'm sorry to the world please don't listen to this i'm sorry for

03:24:16.540 her i'll pray for her no no literally literally you should actually because this is all my pre-christian

03:24:24.780 behavior pre-christian behavior yeah oh my god oh yeah so just to be clear you dated a man

03:24:33.180 i didn't date him oh you i didn't date him yeah what so wait well most of the dom situations were

03:24:40.060 virtual but this particular person was my best friend and he was just into it and i was like okay

03:24:43.580 i'll try it out like why not and you did you guys ever have sex no what they're not allowed 0.98

03:24:48.540 what did you get out of it a clean house and money for free yeah foot rubs that kind of shit anything 0.99

03:24:55.900 i told him to do symphonie easy and money and so he would climax uh no if he did he had to 0.99

03:25:02.940 fucking clean it up with his mouth no but you said he would because yeah like at his house oh 0.99

03:25:07.660 not at your place no no no no kind of sexual relationship i mean i guess you could say it's sexual 1.00

03:25:12.140 in nature but yeah no holy shit did i send the asteroid did i send the asteroid sending the 1.00

03:25:18.620 fucking asteroid on this shit i would never date someone who is that's submissive like that 1.00

03:25:24.540 that's just oh yeah i mean 1.00

03:25:29.500 she don't and you wait oh you guys both got a turn huh yeah i was gonna ask you

03:25:35.660 did he ever wear a red curly wig with bangs no no i had him over at my house once and then my wig

03:25:41.260 came up missing you know he likes to dress like a girl so i thought it was him i never saw him

03:25:45.340 wear a wig also i think he's in the chat because he's obsessed with us why are you so you should

03:25:50.780 you should dom him right now and tell him to do a champagne class food 20 donated two hundred dollars

03:25:56.620 purple hair chick is putting on an act blonde is toxic and raven chick is an enabler of her own 1.00

03:26:02.620 problems listen to the woman to your right great panel brian enjoy being here thank you appreciate

03:26:09.260 that thank you man appreciate your support i'm an enabler to mom problems your name is new so welcome

03:26:14.700 man really appreciate uh welcome to the family welcome to the team welcome to the army brittany

03:26:21.420 spears let me like reiterate i'm 27 now and i was like 19 when this happened it's even worse it's

03:26:27.820 even worse it's like no it's at that age where you're like experimenting with what you you know

03:26:32.540 what you like you made him wear a chastity belt which reduced his size he wanted it he loved it

03:26:37.820 they love it the sub is always really the one in control like they usually are the ones orchestrating

03:26:43.900 it it's just like i mean it's not something i would not date someone i don't even have one before

03:26:51.260 it's for this i just gotta shake my head all righty then try it like i'll try it were you ever did you

03:26:56.540 ever feel pressured in that situation because he was your best friend and he was coming to you with

03:27:00.540 this no i just ignore him if i wasn't feeling it and i and i do now i'm like when i was married i

03:27:06.060 ignored him totally did it change your level of respect for him no whatever he's he's in a weird 0.98

03:27:11.900 shit who cares i'm a libertarian i don't give a fuck what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else 0.98

03:27:16.140 yes now my personal principle principles may not be the same as like what i think is cool for other 0.99

03:27:22.140 people to do um but yeah i mean do what you do i had a dude that wanted me to put an egg in his 0.99

03:27:29.020 ass and that was just a red flag for me i'm like no i'm not into that shit i'm not putting anything 0.99

03:27:34.300 in your asshole like this is not something i'm into bye yeah i agree i guess there are a couple things 1.00

03:27:40.860 that i won't try once yeah yeah i'm not into it i'm not into demasculating men honestly i'm not i'm 1.00

03:27:47.660 not into it anyways uh going back to your notes here uh so you used to be a stripper how long were

03:27:53.500 you stripping for like four years in my early adult life four years okay yeah and you said you're wait

03:28:01.260 yes the feminist take on 50 50 and how it's often low-key pick me behavior disguises empowerment what do you

03:28:07.100 mean okay so who is winning in that situation because in every relationship dynamic is different

03:28:13.740 okay so i'm not trying to generalize everybody but for the most part the woman typically does the 1.00

03:28:19.340 emotional labor she's typically going to do most of the cleaning she's typically going to do most of 1.00

03:28:23.740 the child care i can tell you this in my own marriage and okay well the maybe some of that other

03:28:29.420 stuff but the emotional labor like okay that's whatever you don't think so i feel like it's usually

03:28:34.860 women who like initiate let's go to couples therapy and stuff like that that's what i'm saying 1.00

03:28:40.540 it's not like it's not every relationship but generally my girl comes to me we need it we need

03:28:45.900 therapy i'm just let's just skip right to the chase here's the divorce papers so that's that proves my

03:28:53.420 point she's doing the emotional labor i'm not going liberal therapist so some woke liberal therapist

03:29:01.100 therapist so that she the the therapist can affirm the woman's position because most therapists tend 0.99

03:29:07.100 to be women absolutely not to be biased towards my there no i'm not okay with my husband we did

03:29:13.260 marriage therapy and yeah our therapist was a man yeah and he absolutely held me accountable on 0.79

03:29:18.460 shit that i did wrong absolutely okay most therapists probably aren't like that who hurt but 0.54

03:29:22.860 you don't go to therapy so where are you getting this information more generalizations okay exactly so the 0.99

03:29:28.060 woman's doing the emotional labor so you just literally what does therapy have to do with 1.00

03:29:31.740 who's doing the emotional labor that's just one example like if the woman is what evidence do you

03:29:35.980 have okay if she's doing the emotional if she's saying i want us to go to therapy so that we can 0.98

03:29:40.860 keep the marriage going and you're like fuck that then she's obviously putting forth that's me okay 0.99

03:29:45.260 and i think that's generally that's how it does reasonings for why anyway the point is 0.99

03:29:51.340 they they usually do most of the what's an example hold on let's talk about emotional labor

03:29:55.340 because this is such a buzzword what does that even mean okay to labor emotionally articulate

03:30:02.940 what it means i'm not okay typically women are going to stay with a man who cheats on them and 0.99

03:30:07.980 they're like oh i love you enough i'll just deal with it it's emotional labor it's emotional labor

03:30:11.740 it takes a woman through emotional pain let's both agree that cheating is wrong give me an example in a

03:30:16.700 healthy relationship where let's go to therapy that is the that is the hold on in a healthy

03:30:21.580 relationship what is an example of emotional labor go if okay let's say we have a communication

03:30:27.420 okay why are you okay if we have a communication outside of therapy outside of therapy give me an

03:30:33.100 example because i don't see how that would be an emotional labor yeah what is emotionally emotional

03:30:37.900 labor they use these words they don't even know what they mean it's putting yourself

03:30:41.580 an example of what did it define emotional labor then putting forth the emotional effort in the

03:30:46.460 relationship to keep the relationship going what does that mean though okay like like a woman

03:30:52.140 so what what's literally like if the okay cool let's say there's no cheating just like bye let's say

03:30:56.220 there's no cheating okay so you can't okay you can't rationally discredit every example and then be

03:31:00.860 like oh well you're not giving me an example give me an example we just gave you practicing okay you

03:31:05.820 said going to therapy and cheating what else typically women are going to be the better communicators 1.00

03:31:11.020 uh typically the women are going to want to sit down and talk an issue out and the men are not

03:31:15.020 although that's not always the case like women can have you know avoidant attachment styles too but 0.98

03:31:22.540 are we going to like get to the whole point or just we just want to hold on this for the next

03:31:25.580 hour let's give me an example of emotional labor multiple no you didn't okay let's say we're fighting

03:31:32.060 hey hey brian i don't like that like when i try to talk to you you kind of like discredit everything

03:31:36.380 that i say if it if it doesn't align with your views you just won't hear me

03:31:40.220 how is that emotion we're having a conversation we're engaged we're role-playing okay i'm telling

03:31:47.260 you you're my man hey i feel like when i talk to you if it's not what you want to hear you disregard

03:31:52.700 what i'm saying can you recognize that you do that what do you hold on i don't want i'm not really

03:32:00.860 interested in okay so this is a perfect example of me trying to do we're not in a relationship 0.98

03:32:05.660 i'm not here to kiss your ass okay but it's so why don't you give me an example of emotional labor 1.00

03:32:12.140 without us having to role play it okay but that is something that happens in relationships the 0.99

03:32:16.700 woman will want to sit down and talk about the issues and what is okay you and what you think 1.00

03:32:21.900 it's not clear to me that that's an emotional labor i would agree and say that's the wrong term for

03:32:27.740 it okay so then what would you call it i wouldn't call it emotional labor i would call it talking

03:32:31.820 things out communication to me like i'm five emotional labor is literally like i'm five it's

03:32:37.740 practicing empathy and putting yourself in someone else's shoes without having to

03:32:43.820 like putting i don't even know what that means you're putting yourself putting yourself in someone

03:32:47.660 else's shoes if you come practicing and tell me you don't like something emotional labor is and i sit

03:32:51.820 there and i reflect about it even though i may not agree why would that be emotional

03:32:55.980 that would just be you putting yourself in somebody else's shoes considering their perspective

03:33:00.540 i don't think empathy is an emotion no that's not what i said go ahead make your point okay make

03:33:05.660 your point that is wild you don't think empathy is an emotion i literally didn't say that it is

03:33:16.300 the wife comes to the husband and says they need therapy the husband needs to be emotionally stable 0.98

03:33:21.660 enough to say shut the fuck up and make me a sandwich okay so that's exactly what i'm talking 1.00

03:33:25.340 about so men will do shit like that listen men will do shit like that and women will still be like 1.00

03:33:29.660 i pay 50 of the bills i don't need no man okay bitch you're the real pick me so what you're saying 1.00

03:33:34.860 is they don't have to provide for you they don't have to fucking do any emotional labor they don't 0.99

03:33:39.340 have to hold on what does that mean okay what does emotional labor mean i'm not gonna spend the 0.98

03:33:44.460 next 30 minutes i gave you multiple give me okay you you went to the extreme cheating no no going

03:33:50.780 to therapy okay no you think it's an extreme when i'm if your partner is trying to engage you in a

03:33:56.620 conversation going to and you don't even have the empathy to like listen to them cut it out 0.99

03:34:01.980 stop being a fucking idiot go ahead if even it's not an extreme example to say like hey if i'm 1.00

03:34:08.300 trying to talk to my partner about something that bothers me and they just won't have the empathy 1.00

03:34:12.300 to even listen to the problem much less reflect or acknowledge it that's me emotionally investing 0.99

03:34:19.820 and the man being like fuck you and your emotions because they're afraid to express i'm still waiting 0.99

03:34:25.340 for an explanation of what emotional labor is we just gave you literally five no okay then you have 1.00

03:34:31.100 then you can like google it okay then how is you're being avoidant i'm not being avoidant i would

03:34:36.060 actually i bet he's my question is how how is it keep psychoanaly how is it not emotional

03:34:42.140 labor if you're um giving advice to your partner and trying to put them in a vulnerable you're

03:34:50.060 expressing your emotions an advanced and healthier mindset how is that not emotional labor okay give

03:34:57.340 me an example i can see that i can see that it's sunk into your head already okay yes it has someone

03:35:04.220 yeah you are the guy i was talking to that i was in a three-day relationship with but we had been

03:35:08.700 talking for three years i think it's cute because he would see that he has already digested it but

03:35:13.340 this is for views he would routinely okay what evidence do you actually have this for views you

03:35:18.540 literally you literally have failed to articulate okay i'm looking at you and i can tell that you know

03:35:23.420 what i'm saying okay cool you're a mind reader so in a relationship where there's not cheating and

03:35:29.660 therapy isn't necessary would you agree that there is some degrees of quote unquote emotional labor

03:35:35.980 happening in otherwise happy relationships yeah what's an example

03:35:41.420 in a okay no in a happy relationship what would be an example of an emotional happy relationship

03:35:47.260 overall and still have issues okay so let's exclude cheating let's exclude the need a relationship so

03:35:54.140 bad right that it requires therapy okay yeah yeah okay even small what is an example of emotional

03:35:59.980 labor in an otherwise happy relationship okay happy relationships can have small issues like

03:36:04.540 communication issues right sure okay sure so if i'm coming to you trying to say hey we have

03:36:09.820 communication issues i think we need to work it out because i love you and i want to stay with you

03:36:13.500 but in order to do that this is something that definitely needs to be fixed you have to be

03:36:18.300 vulnerable oh you're dangling the breakup no just like you did with your husband didn't or didn't

03:36:23.900 you say yes i didn't you admit that one of your issues is that you would threaten the breakup yeah

03:36:28.860 because in my in my book once you threaten the breakup it's goodbye i don't play that 0.93

03:36:34.220 shit we can have we can have a conversation about issues but when you start leveraging a breakup 0.95

03:36:40.460 100 i'll call your bluff it was nice to meet you goodbye i don't play this and let's break up get 0.99

03:36:45.980 back together bullshit i think if you want to break up it's over yeah goodbye oh my god that 0.86

03:36:51.580 looks like a i said that was like more of a wave goodbye 0.97

03:36:53.980 that was not it's not a salute that was not a roman salute okay no i actually agree like

03:37:02.300 as someone who's no longer 22 and has done self-reflection and stuff i 100 agree with you

03:37:06.380 but that's not what i'm saying here what i'm saying here is you don't have to threaten to leave

03:37:10.700 but everybody knows like if a relationship gets too toxic it's just healthy to not be together

03:37:15.500 so you try to discuss issues so that you can fix them and keep the relationship going and that's just

03:37:20.060 like a general thing that everyone does are you just so you're describing emotional labor as like

03:37:24.060 the willingness to discuss those things it's one example it's just any kind like but you said women 0.82

03:37:30.300 do most of the emotional labor in a relationship so i i'm sort of failing to understand i think i think

03:37:37.660 what she's trying to say is that women are more likely to be vulnerable and that is equating to 0.98

03:37:42.940 emotional therapy or emotional uh labor yeah but i wouldn't i think emotional labor is a stupid word 0.98

03:37:48.620 for them okay well we can argue semantics but the general point and i also think that women tend to 1.00

03:37:54.060 like emotionally invest more in general maybe sooner than men but that's because we're hormonal issue 0.80

03:38:01.020 and the whole point that i'm making like the whole point that i'm making is women will literally brag 1.00

03:38:06.460 they'll be like i'll i pay 50 of the bills and i do the cooking and i do the cleaning and and and 0.99

03:38:12.540 then they'll say dumb shit like if a guy cheats on you well you could have just told me i would 1.00

03:38:15.740 have fucked her with you you know that type of shit that is the real pick me energy so when i got 1.00

03:38:20.460 married and i decided to become a mom i had so many feminine literally i'm not even fucking playing 1.00

03:38:26.540 i had so many feminists put me down and like oh my god years of feminism what we fought for wasted 1.00

03:38:32.540 and it's like you're really the pick me i'm not the pick me because i'm getting married and having

03:38:39.820 children which by the way to me is the most meaningful thing that you could do is create 0.97

03:38:46.060 another human and like build them up to be they're the future they're literally the fucking future 0.99

03:38:52.140 generations and you have a role in shaping that and you're gonna tell me that fucking paying 50 of 0.98

03:38:57.980 the bills for your boyfriend who's gonna fucking cheat on you anyway and you're gonna do all the 0.98

03:39:01.420 shit that i'm doing that makes me the pick me wait so hold on is your just to finally arrive 0.99

03:39:07.100 at the point here you're against 50 50 relationships is that no no if it's truly 50 50 i think that's 0.98

03:39:12.860 great like if the if both partners are equally cleaning cooking all of the things yeah that's 0.99

03:39:17.660 great but that's just not what i typically see anecdotally okay let me ask you a question

03:39:21.580 let's say the guy's working 60 hours a week and the woman's working 30 and there's an unequal 0.84

03:39:27.500 distribution of all the household shit that you're talking about do you not view that as 50 50 yeah 0.91

03:39:35.020 wait so yeah if the man is if the man is working harder hours and by the way you said something 0.97

03:39:39.660 earlier about blue collar men working nine to fives who do y'all know blue collar men that work nine to

03:39:44.620 fives because i don't know any blue collar men they work like 100 hour weeks so in those kind of

03:39:50.140 scenarios that yeah it obviously makes sense that the that whoever whichever partner is not working as much

03:39:55.820 should do more of the opposite labor yes i don't discredit that at all you also talked about also

03:40:00.860 how it's more empowering to be a housewife and how being that doesn't automate automatically make

03:40:05.500 you the submissive one yeah so i see um a huge debate topic on like tick tock and other social

03:40:12.540 media platforms where women are like well if i'm gonna be submissive then you need to pay all the bills 1.00

03:40:18.380 and i guess it just depends on what you mean by submissive but like a man can be paying all the bills

03:40:24.060 and that doesn't mean that you have to submit to him each relationship dynamic is going to be

03:40:27.980 different so it was just weird to me as someone who like always wore the pants in my relationships

03:40:34.380 to have women like oh you're you just let a man run you or if you have like any red pill ideas women 1.00

03:40:39.580 will be like oh well you just think that because the misogyny is coming from inside the house which is

03:40:44.700 actually misogynistic to say because you're assuming that i can't form my own opinions and that a man must

03:40:49.180 have made me think this way although i i have to i'll have to say this as far as women who are

03:40:54.940 homemakers who are stay-at-home moms that's a full-time job it is taking care of the kids and 1.00

03:40:59.340 whatnot but if you don't have children and you expect a man to take care of you to me that's just lazy 1.00

03:41:05.820 that's just lazy i mean that's that's i don't fully dispute that but there are some dynamics where

03:41:11.740 you know if that works for both people then whatever because because she could be helping him like

03:41:16.860 in those situations where he's working super hard he doesn't want to have to come home and do laundry

03:41:20.700 he doesn't want to have to come home and do dinner right so she's helping him in that scenario what

03:41:24.780 if she's objecting and then saying oh i don't have to do oh yeah that's wrong yeah you're a lazy 1.00

03:41:29.180 well then you're a lazy bitch yeah 100 agree get a job then bitch i agree yeah when i was a housewife 1.00

03:41:36.060 my house was spotless i cooked all the time you can look at my facebook at the meals album 1.00

03:41:40.140 i cook good as fuck my children are both highly advanced um yeah i was a really good housewife 0.99

03:41:47.500 but other women would put me down for it i'm like bitch you're the pick me it's he's paying my bills 0.99

03:41:53.740 and i don't have to work like yes what i'm doing is work but like i would definitely not want to be 0.93

03:41:58.620 doing this and working i think women should pay a hundred percent of everything to be honest yeah i'll do 1.00

03:42:05.500 it i think we need a reversal of the gender roles to be honest in what industry i mean like

03:42:13.740 if you're baited in what industry what women what what industry what industry are women working in

03:42:19.180 that they're going to make more than the men maybe well here's an example asian women out earn white men 1.00

03:42:29.500 so okay then go for asian women well wouldn't you like can we ask you questions sure go ahead 1.00

03:42:40.460 when how long has it been since you dated somebody i'm a virgin right helpful there's

03:42:46.380 just a hint in this moment i don't talk about my uh relationship status he's seeing an asian girl

03:42:52.540 they don't have social media they have instagram i'll tell you this i've never dated a content

03:43:00.780 creator or a girl who does only fans i want to say content like even just like a youtuber or twitch

03:43:06.380 streamer no sex work never even dated a content creator i don't really consider that job honestly

03:43:13.180 how old are you i saw a episode where you said you were older than michael knolls i'm 34. okay yeah i mean

03:43:20.540 so it's like oh what is is the is the dating rage that you date like uh like 19 to 22 is that a fair

03:43:30.380 assessment i'll date anyone from uh 19 to 40 i suppose i've dated so you date an older girl i've

03:43:39.740 dated yeah i've dated women older than me i've dated women younger than me that's where it's at is there

03:43:43.580 any aversion for men to date a younger woman is there any reason why a man would not want to date a

03:43:49.340 young well once we get andrew wilson on the call we're we're gonna get him here in just a sec uh

03:43:55.100 we will talk about age gap relationships because i believe that's in your notes so we'll get into that

03:43:59.980 but yeah i don't really talk about it one because one precisely because i don't date another content

03:44:05.980 creator so if i'm dating like a normie chick i frankly don't want people harassing my girlfriend 0.95

03:44:11.180 uh and then um it's just uh yeah there's just safety security concerns there have you ever found

03:44:22.140 someone on the podcast that you were willing to date have i ever found somebody on the podcast

03:44:27.980 that i was willing to date date not sleep with date uh sure i guess yeah i'm not gonna give you

03:44:37.980 specifics i'm not asking for specifics i typically i don't i try not to make it a habit though for the 0.98

03:44:44.620 most part don't shit where you eat for the most part you know what's your body count zero i'm a virgin 0.97

03:44:50.540 i don't think we're gonna get an honest answer about that one he's born again but he doesn't 0.99

03:44:56.780 support wait are you a christian did i say that i'm asking he's a modern man i'm a i don't know

03:45:02.540 what i'm a modern man i think that i'm trying to fix my question nick are you able to get andrew going

03:45:09.180 here uh guys we're gonna have andrew wilson join the call nice join the stream here we got a lot of

03:45:15.740 notes to get through so i think the age gap notes were mine because i i have a couple people

03:45:21.820 mentioned uh stuff i think so is yours younger or older yeah older i just tried to date a 26 year 0.93

03:45:28.700 old i'm 27 absolutely the fuck not never again jesus it felt like having three kids i love him 0.98

03:45:33.180 to death as a friend like is this the guy that you no no no okay again that was all when i was like 0.99

03:45:40.380 19 so i'm a christian now i want a monogamous like serious committed relationship

03:45:45.660 i don't do random hookups or any kind of crazy maddie can you read this single slash divorced

03:45:51.100 mom i feel not hopeful at times but find a man who leads and cares if they don't lead they aren't

03:45:57.100 men of is degenerative do any of you of models have children i bet you don't no and i love being a

03:46:04.700 degenerate i would so okay let me in regards to that um i used to have an issue like letting men lead

03:46:14.380 but i think if a man can lead properly and think about you with his decisions and lead with integrity

03:46:19.900 like biblical men should then i'm absolutely willing to let a man lead 0.98

03:46:25.900 yeah you're gonna you're gonna let and i don't do only fans how nice of you to let him lead it is nice

03:46:31.500 yeah it's very you have a choice andrew would you like to introduce yourself to everyone

03:46:37.180 yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's the fastest growing debate channel in

03:46:41.180 my knowledge anywhere on the internet political satirist um political analyst and i'm a blood

03:46:46.940 sport debater um i often come on whatever podcast to talk to various people oftentimes challenging

03:46:53.260 worldviews so i appreciate uh brian having me on i was scheduled for tonight i'm here a little

03:46:58.300 bit late because i had some family business to attend to leading women inside what's up andrew

03:47:08.460 but yeah i think like the big misconception with like people or women hating on other women

03:47:15.420 for being housewives it's like they think that because you're a housewife that you can't do anything

03:47:21.180 and that you're stuck and that you can't leave the house in that they belittle you so much and i feel

03:47:27.180 like i'm doing the most important work by creating the next generation and and i wanted to be a

03:47:32.620 teacher for the same reason like you're helping mold the minds of the next generation and you really

03:47:37.660 can't do anything more powerful than that yeah i agree you could by not having them i mean hard

03:47:45.180 disagree that's like idiocracy have you ever seen that movie yes okay hard all the smart people stop 0.98

03:47:51.340 having children and all the dumb people have more and more children i mean that's that's what's happening 0.99

03:47:56.140 right the united states of america for the past 50 years i mean that is true statistically the higher 0.99

03:48:00.940 educated are having children later in life or less so at all but um i'm pretty educated i consider

03:48:07.260 myself a major nerd i named my kid sagan after carl sagan who is a physicist and i spend a lot of my

03:48:13.180 free time literally just reading things about psychology and statistics and philosophy and when they roast

03:48:18.860 my dating profile later you'll see that you know that intellect is the most important thing to me

03:48:23.980 so yeah i mean i and i think it's my duty to have more children and you don't think we're

03:48:31.500 overpopulated you don't think the world's overpopulated sure i do and there's a debate

03:48:36.220 on that like you know like elon musk thinks why bring more children into the world and then all the

03:48:40.620 children that aren't being taken care of right now what about all those there's a lot of people

03:48:44.220 who are choosing not to have children anymore to the point that it makes economists worried so

03:48:49.100 more population means more money we need to nick can you pull up the view count really quick guys

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03:49:23.820 if you have one and i know we got a prime like two minutes ago but um nick is telling me that it's 0.95

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03:50:22.220 uh andrew introduced himself yes all right my caucasian welcome andrew welcome welcome so

03:50:29.820 we're just getting through some of the pre-show notes for some of the guests we have uh let's see

03:50:36.780 still here on alissa you said that you disagree on the only fan stuff but we already talked about the

03:50:45.020 only fan stuff so but you said most men don't care about only fans and it doesn't hinder a woman from

03:50:50.300 finding a partner hearing some of the arguments i made did you do you have a change of opinion or i mean

03:50:55.740 i still have the same opinion just because like i said earlier like we're all literally the combination

03:51:01.820 of billions of dependent variables that are based on our own unique nature and nurture we can't like

03:51:08.300 broadly say anything but i agree with a lot of the things that you said so if i say if i can admit

03:51:15.180 and this is actually my my belief that there is some degree of cope when it comes to oh these only fans

03:51:21.180 women they're just going to be forever alone they're going to be lonely they're going to have cats 0.95

03:51:25.660 they're never going to find a man if i can admit that that's are you able to admit that the by

03:51:31.660 virtue of woman having an only fans or being a sex worker that she's going to close the door on a lot 1.00

03:51:37.900 of men sure yeah a lot of men are not going to be okay with it and i would even say like and then 0.99

03:51:43.740 again i'm a libertarian so i don't give a fuck what other adults do as long as it doesn't harm 0.61

03:51:47.340 anyone but i wouldn't want to be with a man who was supportive of it who was you wouldn't want 0.95

03:51:51.980 to be a man who's supportive of only fans yeah okay well we already had the conversation so we

03:51:56.300 won't linger too long on the uh you're a libertarian i am if i was going to categorize it yes like i have

03:52:02.860 views from both sides but for the most like for myself i probably have more like based views but 0.93

03:52:08.460 i just feel like other people should as long as it doesn't hurt anybody do what the fuck you want 0.68

03:52:12.620 so you're a harm reductionist libertarian yes okay gotcha so i i mean i do have to ask then um 0.97

03:52:22.140 i'm going to try to frame this correctly for the tos but if a brother were to have carnal

03:52:27.340 relations with their sister what would your objection be to that as a libertarian i feel

03:52:32.300 like it is a harm because when it comes to reproductive issues they can't reproduce let's say

03:52:36.860 i mean it's against the law i think they should that's not so what so are we are we having a 0.98

03:52:43.420 philosophical thing philosophically i don't give a fuck that doesn't have anything to do with me 0.61

03:52:47.500 but within the parameters of our current society and law then obviously they shouldn't do that and 0.96

03:52:53.500 i don't fucking condone it but i mean whatever why not why not condone it if there's no harm 0.97

03:52:59.260 i'm not gonna fuck my brother yeah yeah i get it but i'm saying for me you're a harm reductionist 0.97

03:53:04.220 right yeah so if there's no actual harm to reduce you can't really say anything about it 0.98

03:53:08.700 how can you how can you how can you apply that broadly though because you can't say that every

03:53:12.460 brother and sister right now because people get arrested for doing it because it's considered

03:53:17.020 immoral right but you said in the instance that they can't reproduce so i can't you can't like broadly

03:53:22.300 apply a standard because most of them would be able to reproduce well you can what if they were same 0.98

03:53:27.900 sex i mean i i don't give a fuck if a sister won't right you don't care right so you're 1.00

03:53:34.060 your harm reduction is that you just don't care about what other things like uh like incest you 0.99

03:53:39.020 don't care about probably things like uh necrophilia you probably don't care about any of those things

03:53:43.420 because there's no provable harm you could absolutely say that necrophilia causes harm

03:53:47.660 oh yeah tell me how it causes harm to the family members of the body what if they have no family

03:53:53.020 members or will their body to do it it causes harm the body can't consent to it so it's no you can

03:54:00.700 consent to it before you die it causes harm because of the hey if you listen if you write

03:54:08.620 if you write up a will and you say i don't care if somebody sleeps with my course corpse then like 1.00

03:54:12.700 whatever whatever then you don't care right don't care yeah that's why libertarianism is stupid leads 0.99

03:54:18.380 to all sorts of immoral conclusions for the most it's hard to like really quantify my political 0.99

03:54:23.500 views but for the most part i'm in favor of the government being less involved in whatever extent

03:54:28.540 as possible obviously it needs to be involved for certain things but like i don't give a 0.99

03:54:34.460 fuck if gay people yeah you don't care yeah you don't care you don't care i know you don't care 0.99

03:54:37.660 about incest you don't care about necrophilia you don't care about anything your harm reductionist 1.00

03:54:40.940 values are as immoral and degenerate as you can possibly imagine that's why we're not a libertarian

03:54:47.260 nation we're not a libertarian nation because all roads lead to degeneracy

03:54:50.780 can you can you argue though that uh necrophilia is because stacy for senate donated two hundred 0.75

03:55:01.340 dollars in nevado abortion has been legally protected up until 24 months can we admit that

03:55:07.820 at least by 24 weeks you've had enough time to decide to have an abortion or not what say you ladies 1.00

03:55:13.980 yes absolutely thank you stacy appreciate it what say you ladies i think it's crazy to do it that

03:55:19.420 late 24 no 24 months he's 12 24 weeks i don't say 24 well it says 24 months so wait it literally

03:55:27.180 says maddie can you read this i said women now days refuse to accept responsibility for their actions

03:55:33.500 my wife let me and our two toddlers so that she can quote-unquote have fun modern

03:55:38.380 feminism has ruined the best attributes of a good woman i agree uh newly single dad thank you for the

03:55:43.020 chat man sorry to hear about the breakup of your uh family there uh fortunate uh she just uh she

03:55:50.380 wanted to have fun i wanted to have fun perfect justification and pretext for breaking up a marriage

03:55:58.940 with two toddlers just a wonderful reason uh sorry to hear that man though um and uh going back to

03:56:06.300 your notes here so you also disagree on you don't think fat women are inherently less valuable because 1.00

03:56:16.540 everyone's got a type and some people's type is fat bitches 100 so my cousin will only date fat girls 1.00

03:56:23.660 he that's his type it's what he likes he he has curved beautiful skinny women so like you know it could be 1.00

03:56:29.580 your standard and it would be my standard it's most men's standard sure but there's definitely a good 0.97

03:56:35.900 portion of them that well yeah there's enough out there i suppose if you have a big enough population

03:56:41.660 but uh you you're saying when it comes to this value conversation uh so i don't think we're talking

03:56:50.540 about like their value as a human being we're talking about their value in the dating and sexual

03:56:56.300 marketplace is that what is that what you're talking about yeah there are some guys that place

03:56:59.740 value on that that is what they are sexually attracted to specifically but but so if we're

03:57:04.380 talking about less valuable more valuable let's say there's a greater proportion of men who value women

03:57:11.020 who are fit sure or who are thin and while there are some men who will value an obese woman that tends to

03:57:19.340 be less than men who value thin fit women so couldn't you just make the argument then that

03:57:27.340 they are less valuable in the dating marketplace i guess if we're doing statistics yes like

03:57:33.660 well but then it should be clarified in that way like to most men they're going to be less valuable

03:57:39.340 but i'm you know there's always going to be i don't think anybody ever really makes the argument that

03:57:43.660 no i don't understand aren't you a laissez-faire uh libertarian that that would be your assessment

03:57:53.100 are you a laissez-faire libertarian give me a specific example and what you believe in the

03:57:59.020 economic model of laissez-faire economics so like anarcho-capitalism something like this no well

03:58:05.660 what sort of economic model do you ascribe to i support capitalism okay so capitalism so just take

03:58:11.820 basic capitalism supply and demand right yes do you think that there's more men or less men demand

03:58:16.860 demanding fat women i mean like we would have to take a poll but my assumption is that there would 1.00

03:58:22.220 be less women into it obviously okay so i'm just saying we can't we can't make broad away if there's 1.00

03:58:27.100 less demand for something in inside of your economic theory then it's less valuable right yeah in in

03:58:33.340 that okay so then they're less valuable glad we got that cleared up

03:58:36.380 i mean fair when you but that's not how it was like laid out when i was listening to some of them

03:58:43.180 it seemed like a fat woman is not valuable but if you can say she's less valuable in the dating 1.00

03:58:48.860 market yeah i think that's fair that's i mean if we're having a conversation about dating that is the

03:58:54.140 context and i me and andrew tend to we tend to make sort of these disclaimers when we're talking about

03:59:04.060 value we're not talking about your value as a human being as a person but we're we are typically

03:59:10.300 specific specifically talking about in the dating marketplace yeah but even within that there's still

03:59:16.220 going to be some guys but that's the only point that i was making i don't think we disagree there

03:59:19.900 andrew i'm sure you'd agree that we don't disagree that there will be men who find obese women

03:59:24.140 attractive yeah right we're just talking about some basic supply and demand so just like any

03:59:29.100 marketplace the dating marketplace would be a marketplace right just it's no different than an

03:59:33.580 electronics marketplace a tobacco marketplace whatever it is the higher the demand for

03:59:39.260 something right yeah usually it's more valuable because more people demand it so this would be

03:59:44.220 the same thing when you're talking about types of women this type of thing yeah you would agree to 1.00

03:59:48.300 that right yeah yeah okay okay okay well i'm not i'm not ruling listen i'm not ruled by cognitive

03:59:56.380 dissonance i'm okay with like my view changing so if you can offer me something that deepens my

04:00:00.700 perspective i'm absolutely like i'm not like no i'm just gonna argue this for the sake of it do you

04:00:05.420 object to value calls and value judgments when it comes to dating what do you mean like in well

04:00:13.820 i mean do you object to a guy who would not want to date a woman who's overweight for example

04:00:19.500 no i think you can have whatever standard you want and i actually agree with the standard about like 0.98

04:00:24.860 men or women your friend's fucking dying in the bathroom not what i'm kidding she's like dying 1.00

04:00:31.420 that right good no i think it's like one thing that i see argued on here a lot is that 0.99

04:00:36.860 they like you guys will say it's fair for a guy not to want a woman that has a high body count

04:00:41.500 and i haven't really seen any good argument against that and i actually really help you with that

04:00:47.260 no i agree that it's fine to not want to be with someone who has a high body count for multiple

04:00:51.740 reasons wait but wait let's go back to supply and demand let's go back to supply and demand do you

04:00:57.420 think that men would prefer just on average to have a woman with a low body count or a high body count

04:01:05.580 i don't think that men care as much as no so let's say for a second that we took you and made a perfect

04:01:13.100 clone of you like let's say i don't know you had a twin sister or something like this but

04:01:18.140 however it was that your thought waves and brain patterns work were mapped completely on to another

04:01:22.620 woman which is an exact doppelganger of you okay and a man could choose he fell in love with you

04:01:28.540 and the clone of you had slept with no people and you had slept with a hundred people and it's the

04:01:33.340 same person which one do you think the man would choose i think a large portion would want the girl 0.97

04:01:37.420 who knows what the fuck she's doing that part hold on you erroneous erroneous so do you think that 0.98

04:01:44.540 they would prefer the promiscuous you yes this is a topic that's actually debated what you should 1.00

04:01:49.660 do is just look at the camera then and say that you're gonna fuck a ton of dudes because you think 0.99

04:01:53.820 it's gonna raise your value to men well i don't give a fuck what anybody views my value as i don't 0.99

04:01:59.020 have a high body count and i don't want to yeah but why would it matter if you did by sleeping with 0.98

04:02:04.620 a bunch of people aimlessly wait but wouldn't people love you more if you did some some guys do

04:02:10.300 prefer women who know what they're doing they don't want to have to train somebody some men

04:02:14.060 some men are possessive and like want someone to themselves and i think that's also fair and one

04:02:18.940 argument that women have against that is like oh men only don't want a girl with a high body count 1.00

04:02:23.580 because they're insecure even if that is the case like who cares like they're allowed well i don't

04:02:28.700 know it seems it seems to me that the value of virgins since there's so few of them in society has

04:02:34.460 skyrocketed in the dating marketplace and that men are competing over them a lot more than they're 0.99

04:02:39.580 competing over women who are highly promiscuous this has this been studied is this like actually 0.93

04:02:44.780 yes if a guy's a virgin to me on the preferences on the preferences of body count that's disgusting

04:02:54.220 can i can yeah we can but just let us finish our argument we're almost we're almost done so uh yeah

04:02:59.660 there has been studied for preferences for higher low body count and men tend to prefer lower body

04:03:04.060 count yeah okay that's true and they do tend to compete a lot more over over women who are virgins

04:03:10.460 they tend to compete a lot more for them so they it seems that based on supply and demand there's a

04:03:15.500 lot fewer virgins so the supply of them is down the demand for them is up okay right so what they

04:03:22.540 can de-virgin them no what percentage virgin so i can take her virgin what percentage of women that 1.00

04:03:27.580 are conventionally attractive are going to remain virgins up until the point of marriage very few

04:03:34.460 very few right so then that brings in the predicament of reality versus idealism which is ideally

04:03:43.740 very attractive their round meatball donated two hundred dollars dating marketplace is obviously

04:03:51.340 different than a market for goods if you want a more complete partner some level of exploration is

04:03:57.420 necessary which is the in is bad but so is promiscuity virgin is bad totally agree i don't think

04:04:03.500 disagree i don't think virgin every every single marketplace she she's a psychologist she should know 1.00

04:04:09.420 this right every single marketplace in economics also runs off of psychology it also runs off of

04:04:15.500 consumer trust it runs off of how people feel about the product successful marketing campaigns tug at

04:04:22.460 heartstrings has nothing to do with the product at all so no all what are these studies and like how

04:04:27.820 recently were they done what's that how recent are these studies i i have them nick can you get those

04:04:34.460 pulled up please i these there's like multiple studies both of them please what's the background

04:04:40.060 on the studies were they just random men that they picked up off the street i mean to be fair we could

04:04:44.620 like take apart any study uh no many of these have had a meta-analysis there have been a meta-analysis

04:04:51.260 done on these studies i mean did men did they do it for women too like did they ask women what they

04:04:56.460 thought about men that were virgins okay but this is not what we're talking about well no yes actually we

04:05:01.740 do have some studies on that too it seems to be less important to women than it did hold on nick a

04:05:06.140 little less zoomed in please okay scroll down just a bit so there was a study in 2023 re-examining

04:05:12.540 the link hold on re-examining the link between premarital sex and divorce scroll down uh there

04:05:18.140 was one in this other one uh sowing wild oats valuable experience a field full of weeds personal

04:05:25.580 relationships in some i don't know uh there's another one from 2018 fewer sex partners means a

04:05:32.380 happier marriage there's 2018 from wolfing wolfinger promiscuous america smart secular and somewhat less

04:05:40.540 happy yeah uh but there's there's 1974 premarital sexual behavior but that's not the topic the topic is 0.68

04:05:47.740 do men where are the studies that specifically say that men prefer

04:05:51.180 women with less body counts as opposed to the next tab nick the next the next one and i don't 1.00

04:05:57.260 discredit that you could be right i'm i just haven't seen there's a whole bunch of uh uh because

04:06:01.500 those are not good examples of that promiscuity and infidelity i could just say i'm a virgin

04:06:08.780 okay so so listen i can agree with all of this by the way i am highly aware of the neuroscience behind

04:06:16.620 why having a bunch of sex partners is not good for you it essentially down regulates your 0.97

04:06:21.180 fucking oxytocin receptors and for men dopamine well both women and men but more so with men 0.95

04:06:25.900 the vasopressin and the dopamine so it's not good if you want someone who can actually 0.99

04:06:29.740 emotionally connect you're going to find that person less likely because what happens about

04:06:34.060 pair bonding you create yeah you create like a neural imprint and then why earlier did you just

04:06:39.020 say that most men would prefer women with no no i'm not saying most i'm just saying i don't know that

04:06:42.700 it's the case that men care like i've heard and i've seen on online debates a lot of men say they

04:06:47.980 would prefer to be with someone who knows what they're doing who has a little more experience i

04:06:51.100 think those men are probably i personally i personally think it's having a lot of a high

04:06:55.740 body count is not ideal like for me because it's the same why not issue in men because i want someone

04:07:02.220 with properly functioning dopamine receptors who's not going to be more prone to risky behavior

04:07:07.020 and that can actually pair bonds and be monogamous because that's what i would want out of a 1.00

04:07:11.100 partner also so why would you make the assumption promiscuity can also the other direction there's

04:07:16.300 promiscuity can also reflect like mental health issues not to stigmatize them but like you have

04:07:21.260 higher promiscuity mental health issues that's a that's another justification for a man not wanting

04:07:27.660 to date somebody right i'm not saying that those reasonings don't exist because i agree you're trying

04:07:31.820 to justify well she has a high body count because of mental health mental illness i think it's fair for

04:07:37.340 someone not to want to be with someone with a high body count because it could reflect mental

04:07:40.780 health issues because promiscuity high promiscuity is associated with things like bpd and we have

04:07:45.980 millions of years of evolutionary biology coded into our dna geared towards self-preservation so it's

04:07:52.380 fair to not want to be with someone who has a high body count you know sex isn't this like you're more

04:07:55.980 that's interesting that you bring up evolution you're how would you how would you pre uh paternity

04:08:02.380 tests make a determination on if a child was yours from a man's perspective how would you do that how

04:08:08.540 would what pre paternity tests which are recent from an evolutionary standpoint how would you as a

04:08:15.740 man be able to make a determination that a child woman had was yours looks what do you what do you

04:08:22.140 oh okay so i mean i guess how would you determine that you would just look at them and see if they

04:08:26.620 look like you i suppose well if they were more chaste right they had less promiscuity then this is a

04:08:34.220 woman who you could count on likely yeah to actually be bearing your child right right so we listen so 1.00

04:08:39.580 wouldn't that be wired in as a preference then evolutionarily it could be but i think the dating

04:08:44.860 market is vastly different because of second wave feminism leading to hook up culture just to be 1.00

04:08:49.500 clear so when was hold on when was second wave feminism i don't know the dates when what within the 0.94

04:08:56.780 past century yes do you think that do you think that the evolutionary basis that andrew's arguing

04:09:03.580 about has been undone in the course of less than 100 years definitely to some extent yes absolutely

04:09:09.420 you don't that's not how okay make a poll then that's not how evolution make a poll let's ask the

04:09:15.420 no listen i agree with you guys on this i'm just saying you can't say that all women all men

04:09:21.100 or even the majority of men prefer yes we're not we're not putting anything in a model you are saying

04:09:25.580 the majority yes i would say the majority of men yeah for and you could be right but how like

04:09:31.660 where are you drawing this conclusion let me ask you a question if you look up into the sky

04:09:37.180 and i say that the sky is blue do i need a study to prove that the sky is blue in the false 0.95

04:09:43.900 equivalence is that shit it's god so you want to study that that indicates that men have been 0.92

04:09:53.260 surveyed how about this if you're gonna if i ask my chat well the burden of proof is on you so if 0.99

04:09:58.460 you're making these points then yes you should show a study not in regards to divorce or any other

04:10:03.580 shit that you just picked up pulled up but if you're gonna say men prefer women who don't know 0.98

04:10:07.820 what the fuck they're doing i'm just saying like you can look online and see men talk about this 1.00

04:10:11.660 so let's let's dive into this real quick then let's find out and we'll test your logic and see 0.99

04:10:17.260 if that's true you're requesting empirical data is the burden of evidence for whether or not uh this

04:10:24.220 can be demonstrated to you which i think is fair but what if we could logically demonstrate it for you

04:10:28.940 that's also another way in which a thing can be demonstrated to a person that does not require

04:10:33.740 empiricism correct it depends on the topic you can't logic you i don't think you can apply that to any

04:10:39.180 argument stance well if you're going to speak on behalf of other men it needs to be studied

04:10:44.060 empiricism itself is just a a foundational uh ethos of i believe x so like you would have to justify

04:10:51.740 why we should even use empiricism but that aside okay yeah yeah i mean hang on you would but i'm just

04:10:58.460 going to grant that maybe we could as long as you'll grant that i could also logically demonstrate

04:11:02.940 something to you as well because you'd have to logically demonstrate why we should use empirical data

04:11:07.340 uh i'm just going to grant that we should but if i can logically demonstrate for you for instance

04:11:12.700 that most of the world is religious most of the world is religious not some and most of the religions

04:11:19.340 of the world have some kind of virtue ethic when it comes to sex is that correct yes absolutely well 0.99

04:11:24.700 then there must be some preference for promiscuity being bad from the position of both men and women

04:11:31.980 i mean you could also argue that someone who is promiscuous is probably more fertile like they're

04:11:36.620 i mean you could really dive into that and on all that does not contend with my argument that i just

04:11:41.100 gave you okay but most of the world is religious right but most religions stop let me let me make the 0.92

04:11:47.100 argument again and then steel man the argument before you respond to it okay the argument is if most of

04:11:51.900 the world is religious most religions have a sexual ethic which is against promiscuity which they do 0.92

04:11:57.740 uh then it seems that people must have some preference against sexual promiscuity that would

04:12:03.340 be a sound conclusion can you steel man the argument first and then give me an argument counter to it

04:12:11.260 i think what you're saying is valid but i think that not everyone who's religious upholds religious

04:12:15.580 values by far by far there are outliers that's a non-sequitur what's the argument the argument is that 0.94

04:12:23.900 until there's actual data saying what men prefer then all of this is just hypothetical bullshit

04:12:29.580 it can't be hypothetical we have empirical data on religion when was religion apparently that most 0.94

04:12:34.620 of the world is religious right when was religion when was religion formed you have to take into

04:12:38.460 context society at the time that it was formed why do we have to do that when we're talking about

04:12:44.860 anymore we don't live in that anymore that's no no that's literally that's a genetic fallacy what are you

04:12:50.700 talking about that's a fallacious form of argumentation people why would we have to go to

04:12:55.740 when a religion was formed to make a determination that right this second most of society is religious 0.88

04:13:01.260 in most societies of the world have some kind of religion they adhere to with sexual ethics which

04:13:06.540 are against promiscuity therefore there must be some preference against promiscuity unless you

04:13:11.820 can give me a counter argument to that i'm not saying that there's not a preference i'm saying and

04:13:16.540 most of the people that would be in favor of women who are more experienced are not going to be

04:13:20.700 religious to begin with so they're adding all these variables it's not a counter kind of cucks to be

04:13:26.700 honest i mean i don't that's not a counter argument like what's the counter argument to it some people

04:13:31.980 might not be religious i i know i'm granting that that right but you're trying to add in a bunch of

04:13:36.380 variables that may not be applicable in today's society i don't know very many people who have said

04:13:41.900 things along the lines of i prefer a woman who's more experienced that are religious most of the

04:13:46.780 people in the world do not live in western societies most do not okay so are we having a

04:13:52.700 like world yeah so we're talking about we're talking about muslims and we're talking about jews and

04:13:57.260 we're talking about christians and we're talking about all sorts of different religions which

04:14:01.020 exist there's almost in all of them an ethic against sexual promiscuity almost all if we're

04:14:05.740 talking about the whole world yeah that's absolutely fair against against promiscuity right yeah if

04:14:10.620 we're if we're talking worldwide yeah that's fair yeah yeah so you well i mean you don't think that

04:14:16.540 human beings evolved you don't think that men the ontological nature of what is a man in a muslim

04:14:22.540 nation is different than the ontological nature of a man here right i mean they're the same they're

04:14:26.780 both men i think so why would they have a preference there there's okay distinct from a preference here

04:14:31.900 for all of us who are religious seem to have this preference and most people are religious

04:14:36.380 there's multiple factors that go into a person's decision making and religion is not the only thing

04:14:42.540 there are social aspects generational aspects and the are you arguing that what things are like in

04:14:48.940 egypt right now are similar to america are you saying the culture there's going to be a cultural of

04:14:53.740 course there's going to be cultural distinctions between them but the religions can be uniform even

04:14:58.060 absent culture so for instance muslim religion in africa could be exactly the same religion which is

04:15:03.580 followed in the middle of qatar whatever right sure but the point is is though is yeah we can even take

04:15:08.940 into account these cultural considerations but if most of the world is religious and i've and you agree

04:15:15.660 that it is and we can empirically demonstrate that you empirically know that that's true uh then i don't

04:15:20.620 understand how i haven't given you a good logical demonstration because we also know that it seems

04:15:25.020 that most people are against promiscuity there are less and less religious people as time goes on like

04:15:30.620 you only in the west okay so i live in the west so that's what i'm debating yeah i already gave you

04:15:35.740 i already gave you that if we're considering the whole world then absolutely that's fair but if we're

04:15:40.380 talking about american culture i just don't think it's fair to say that most men want a woman who's

04:15:45.260 a virgin or inexperienced most people in the united states identify with a religion most okay well

04:15:53.100 you would i mean if you're talking about somewhere between somewhere between 19 and 30 percent

04:15:58.620 who's self-id is agnostic or atheist and even those people will often identify as being culturally

04:16:03.900 christian so the thing is is that if that's true even here the the most the majority of people even

04:16:09.980 here and the immigrants which come into the country come in usually with a religious background south

04:16:15.500 america especially they're catholic uh if they're coming in from the east they're muslim um you know or

04:16:21.340 they're uh there's many other religions okay there's even christian sex that allow polygamy and

04:16:28.140 then there's all the different sects of paganism that don't there's very few and the west does not

04:16:33.420 allow polygamy it's it's good it's not only illegal it's considered moral okay and the christian christians 0.91

04:16:38.940 christian polygamists are not allowed to be polygamous okay maybe not legally but you want to act 0.62

04:16:43.740 no not even not even spiritually is it legal in nevada no it's not legal to be a polygamist in nevada

04:16:52.780 okay wait so let me ask you a question here do you think that like do you think that men are thinking 0.89

04:17:02.620 i like her but i would like her more had she fucked more men before me no i don't think it's a matter of 0.74

04:17:09.020 that i just think sometimes guys want a woman who's more experienced and unfortunately they're 0.98

04:17:14.540 not going to find that in a virgin okay i would argue the men that want first off let's be real here 1.00

04:17:22.220 most pussy is good pussy it's really not hard all that hard sex isn't this complicated procedure 1.00

04:17:30.780 especially as a woman for women to be good in bed it really doesn't take much so this idea that 1.00

04:17:36.220 the more sexual partners you've had that also actually on that note wouldn't you argue that the

04:17:42.860 woman who's had one sexual partner but she's had sex with that partner a thousand times is going to 1.00

04:17:47.740 be more sexually experienced than the woman who slept with a hundred men one time each there's so many 0.95

04:17:54.940 there's so many variables to this how experimental is that one couple if they're doing the same

04:17:58.620 every time then they're not really she's not getting a lot of experience okay you know the the

04:18:03.580 one of the one of the kind of cheap shots um that's often used by pure empiricists is this idea

04:18:10.140 of a multi-faceted variables making the thing too so complex that we can't actually make any deductions

04:18:16.620 from it or inductions from it but the truth is is that correlates there's usually primary correlates and

04:18:23.660 then there's kind of non-prim you know non-primary correlates we still can look at primary correlates here

04:18:30.620 when we're looking at data yeah right you i mean you would agree that that's true so yes just kind

04:18:35.340 of just kind of waving it off and saying hey you know there's there's tons and tons of variables

04:18:40.140 nobody's going to dispute that there's there's tons of variables but there's still going to be prime

04:18:43.580 correlates that we can look at and that's what brian's kind of pointing to is he's prime correlates

04:18:48.540 yeah i think that's fair i'm not i'm not saying that it's not a lot of men who would prefer to be with

04:18:54.140 a virgin or someone who has a lower body count i'm just saying you can't put this broad

04:18:58.140 generalization on everyone because even on social media you can read through hundreds of comments

04:19:05.580 of men saying the opposite so i'm just saying objectively until there's like a recent study

04:19:10.460 and that these men don't exist but generally speaking if we're having a converse we could

04:19:16.540 talk about the dating habits of dwarfs i guess it would be happy that we look you want to talk about

04:19:22.620 these specific dating habits of dwarfs who live in ecuador we can talk about it if you want but

04:19:28.780 if we're speaking about just generalities here we can arrive at some generalities and generally

04:19:35.500 speaking men prefer sexual purity in women maybe the men in the study i just study i'm just telling you

04:19:44.220 like our age group i need not even look at a study to make this determination everyone's going to have

04:19:50.620 their own antidote yes of course there and i'm telling you in our age group yeah there's a lot

04:19:55.420 of age sure there's a large portion of men who prefer women who are more experienced so it's so

04:20:01.180 it's not as relevant to them let's talk about how many partners they have do you think it's a majority

04:20:05.020 of men that prefer women with a lot of sexual experience i mean i don't know that's the whole point

04:20:11.340 is that i don't know you don't know okay so i wouldn't feel confident in saying yes so just to be

04:20:17.340 clear if a high body count is proxy for promiscuity do you think a man would prefer to date a woman who

04:20:25.420 hasn't had sex in a year or let's say date and sleep with he'd prefer to sleep with a woman who 0.96

04:20:32.300 hasn't had sex in a year or a woman who fucked a guy an hour ago which yeah for sure okay what about 1.00

04:20:38.940 a day ago i mean some men don't give a shit but for the most part yeah i think you don't think you 0.99

04:20:43.820 have a disgust response i think to a woman who's recently fucked another guy this is what i can tell 0.99

04:20:50.140 you from having been a dancer when i was younger let me ask you a question didn't earlier you said 0.98

04:20:53.980 that you wouldn't date a bi guy yes why but i for multiple reasons because he recently had sex with

04:21:01.740 another man right well that was that was y'all's topic but yes okay yeah no and again so my value

04:21:08.540 system is very similar do you do you have like a kind of a what was your response to your your

04:21:15.420 refusal to to dating a bisexual man i want was it a disgust response there's not a disgust no didn't

04:21:22.780 you say like i want someone who's attracted to me and what i am who was the one who said

04:21:27.740 it would be gross because he just maybe it was you it wasn't me it was you okay all right uh but you

04:21:34.460 would i understand that perspective yeah right so like i absolutely validate that i'm just telling

04:21:40.220 you like from my experience having done only fans when i was younger being a dancer when i was younger

04:21:45.180 most men don't care as much as y'all would like to pretend no not most men i've never had a where's

04:21:49.900 your where's your study for that i said it was anecdotal experience

04:21:56.940 and as i was trying to get at the point earlier is that men probably have a preference for

04:22:03.500 attractive women that happen to not be virgins now what i was because i was she's saying it

04:22:13.340 alluding to the fact that a lot of attractive women are not going to be virgin yeah valdev donated 0.97

04:22:20.220 two hundred dollars and so pro christian atheist here i can promise you men will gladly bang a 0.99

04:22:25.980 whore very very few men will wet a whore this show exists to tell women how men think listen to 0.99

04:22:31.420 what the men are saying you think it's a w by the way good to see you back in the chat valdev 1.00

04:22:36.940 like do you think that's a w for you as a woman well guys still want to fuck me no no 1.00

04:22:41.260 where's the ring where's the commitment where's the title okay i mean i've been married for 10 1.00

04:22:45.260 years and i was a huge whore back in the day sure so there's outliers yes there are outliers 0.68

04:22:49.660 already said that i don't do only fans i want to be with someone who is monogamous i'm not

04:22:55.820 attracted to people with high body counts i don't have a high body count so if i if i sat here and 0.94

04:23:01.340 i denied that women are attracted to tall men would you look at me like i'm an idiot no 0.75

04:23:07.740 and i don't okay no one is women don't have a general you don't you don't hold on your be good

04:23:13.660 faith here really you really think that women generally speaking don't have a preference for

04:23:19.100 tall men yes 100 everyone has a point yeah yeah yeah i just think that the next stop i think that

04:23:29.900 you guys hope that men yeah right view things the way you do and i would hope that there was more men

04:23:34.140 that view it that way but in reality i just don't think that's the case i don't yeah but i mean anybody

04:23:39.100 in reality we do think it's the case so uh this is the problem i would be at one side of your mouth

04:23:45.020 bank hang on there's a problem at one side of the mouth you bank on empiricism and then on the

04:23:49.900 other side of your mouth to make your arguments you bank on anecdotal evidence i just want to know

04:23:53.660 i don't see i don't see any reason you guys get i don't see any reason i want to know how much sex 0.64

04:23:59.100 you guys both have had in the last middle of talking calm down so i don't i don't know why it is

04:24:04.620 that we should actually believe your arguments if they're just anecdotal you don't know how many guys

04:24:09.660 have you fucked the past two months that's a good question what's your argument i don't know 0.83

04:24:15.740 i just feel like men are angry that don't get i don't know if you i don't know if you heard what 0.98

04:24:19.260 she said but she was like i wonder how many how much sex you guys have so how many guys have you 0.97

04:24:23.980 fucked the past month i asked you first how many when's the last time you had sex answer the question 0.98

04:24:30.140 no i asked you a question first i've already told you i don't discuss that sort of stuff then i 0.98

04:24:33.740 don't discuss it either okay all right well so on with it's fair i'll discuss it i'll answer if you

04:24:41.740 answer you ready go ahead okay wait she had no she hasn't agreed hold on she hasn't agreed yeah we

04:24:50.540 got to make sure you we get do you if andrew discloses will you disclose yes that's fair okay 0.99

04:24:57.260 great i've had sex with one woman this last year how many of you have said how much sex how much sex 0.99

04:25:01.580 have you had i have sex every day oh as it should be well then good yeah how about you now answer 0.97

04:25:09.340 please every day i've had sex with one person and uh i've had i don't know probably six or seven 0.98

04:25:16.300 times in the last two months was that the question yeah i'm happy what about you brian oh wait he doesn't

04:25:24.300 yeah i don't even understand the argument the argument is basically like if you're a man if you're 0.59

04:25:29.500 a man then you have an opinion on this uh your opinion's only valid if you've had sexual intercourse 0.74

04:25:36.540 anyway all i'm saying is i i think it probably is the case that maybe there's a little bit more

04:25:41.420 but i think a study should be done for me to feel confident agreeing to that just because i've seen

04:25:47.580 again and i admitted it's anecdotal evidence of men portraying one thing and then in reality not

04:25:52.460 giving a fuck yeah i've never had an only fans friend that could not find men i've never and it 0.97

04:25:57.660 really be like the most red-pilled dude like the sissy sub is the most red-pilled person that i know 0.99

04:26:03.660 and a lot of the suburbs on your on only fans are people's like coach dads or like the ones like i'm

04:26:09.740 against only fans so i just have a hard time accepting without evidence that most men in today's

04:26:16.860 society prefer virgins but i understand the reasoning for preferring virgins or people

04:26:23.260 that don't have a high body count i don't dispute that in any way okay so look here's the situation

04:26:27.820 right will a woman who's promiscuous will a woman who's engaged in sex work be able to find a boyfriend 1.00

04:26:34.860 yes can they find a husband yes but we're having a conversation of what men prefer so just because

04:26:42.300 and i don't men might prefer one thing or the other i think they just want to be the hot 0.99

04:26:45.820 shit yeah i think they want to get laid and they don't really i'll give you look they want to get 1.00

04:26:50.140 fucked i would perfectly personally me personally if it's between like a girl who's a seven who's a virgin 1.00

04:26:56.860 and i'm talking just to be clear talking about her physical appearance here jesus christ somebody's 0.99

04:27:02.620 gonna clip that shit uh and then a woman who's like a 10 who slept with 100 men i'm i'd much 1.00

04:27:11.100 prefer to date and have a relationship with the girl who's a seven i feel like the sevens are and 0.99

04:27:15.900 i think that's totally fair i'm not arguing that at all like i just think most men don't like the

04:27:22.620 10s are definitely the 10 no nowadays the 10s are definitely having like a lot of sex it's like 0.68

04:27:27.740 i think most men are gonna go but and then date an amount but for sevens and above they're still

04:27:35.020 having a lot of sex by the way like they're still having a lot of love to believe that men

04:27:39.500 really uphold the values that hold on you're but just to be clear like the men you probably are around 0.94

04:27:46.060 you were a stripper you did only fans no i'm around church men that literally procure

04:27:51.420 you're it's not what's your denomination i'm a non-denominational christian okay should i pick

04:28:00.300 i guess you could say i'm a protestant because i'm not a catholic okay i see how they push for

04:28:04.380 that you could you could classify me as that well we can go in circles on this the whole time did you

04:28:09.100 not find the paternity uncertainty argument that andrew made compelling sure so there's an evolutionary

04:28:14.860 basis so for example so for example if a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all 10 of them

04:28:23.100 prior to dna testing who's the father you don't know but if a man has 10 wives you know who the

04:28:29.900 father is in all instances and you know who the mother is in all instances so for this reason right 0.95

04:28:36.540 this reason for it's an evolutionary reason paternity uncertainty it's one of the biggest l's you can take

04:28:41.980 as a guy to raise a child like to to think that the child's yours where there's paternity fraud to

04:28:48.220 think that the child is yours but it actually isn't you got cheated on you got cucked major l for a guy

04:28:53.900 right but like think about it you just had destiny on here recently that is a great uh reflection of men 0.99

04:29:00.460 these days i don't think most men give a fuck like most men don't even want to have kids 0.93

04:29:05.980 most men are cool with polygamous relationships like most men don't have the standard where they're like 0.97

04:29:11.340 like he's not religious that's you think that most men you think that most men want to let their 0.92

04:29:17.340 wife get fucked by other men i think a lot of okay maybe not their wife but i think a lot of men just 1.00

04:29:22.140 really don't give a fuck about this anymore then why'd you say destiny was a good reflection of the 1.00

04:29:25.900 general population i mean there are a lot of men are that way now there's not a lot of men demonstrate 0.97

04:29:31.500 it for me make a poll how many people are polygamous like how can i demonstrate it for you when i'm not

04:29:37.180 like no that's not my question how many men do you think let other men on purpose bang their chick 1.00

04:29:42.860 i think there's a lot of people in open relationships give us a percentage let's see 0.98

04:29:46.780 how many videos around videos because it hasn't if you can show me a fucking poll the united states 0.90

04:29:52.380 has why do i have to make your points do you think that non-monogamy is on the rise

04:29:56.860 and do you think that religiousness is going down because both of those things are true 1.00

04:30:03.180 in our country yeah but this this is not you demonstrating for us that you think that guys

04:30:08.140 like destiny are a reflection of the general public of men that's an insane claim i think

04:30:13.820 that i would really like to see you justify i'm telling you non-monogamy is on the rise in america

04:30:19.500 religiousness is on the downfall getting those is marriage is on the downfall divorce is at a crazy

04:30:26.540 rate so i think that really reflects that people don't really uphold these 0.92

04:30:30.460 morals that were around and fucking you know even 20 years ago but look at what's that climate change

04:30:36.140 that's not i know that's not in any way listen that is in no way shape or form i'm going to grant 0.84

04:30:41.740 all of those as being true because they for the most part all are true okay that still has nothing to

04:30:47.900 do with the claim that most men in the general public are letting other men on purpose bang their

04:30:54.460 chicks that's that's an outrageous claim i don't think i think for the most part when you consider

04:31:01.020 that religiousness is not as popular non-monogamy is becoming popular people don't care as much what 0.94

04:31:06.460 the fucking body count is am i saying that they shouldn't and i think you should for multiple 0.99

04:31:10.700 reasons like someone with a high body count reflects danger on multiple levels physically there is no 1.00

04:31:15.260 reason for us to believe that because you're non-religious that because you're non-religious you're

04:31:19.420 going to let other men plow your plow your chick no but your argument was that religious people 0.92

04:31:24.300 care about purity and i don't think that's the case either typically yeah but i think that most

04:31:29.100 men why why do you get married even as a secularist do you think that it's so that you can share your

04:31:34.300 chick no but not everybody supports marriage so how does that factor into the debate well most

04:31:39.420 secularists are still getting married no you're kind of proving my point less people are getting

04:31:43.500 married so yeah but secularists are still getting married so the thing is is that secularists

04:31:49.340 are still getting married religious people want virgins or people like i'm not i just want to see

04:31:56.620 data that's backing the point because what i'm saying you're making the point that burdens on you

04:32:01.500 not on us no actually y'all made the point no you made the point that the general public is is like

04:32:07.340 destiny he's a good reflection okay so now you're on a side tangent the general point is that well you

04:32:12.940 can just retract the claim and say you're wrong you say that most men prefer a woman that has a lower

04:32:17.900 body count i'm saying show me any data that reflects that this generation of men give a 0.98

04:32:25.500 shit because i don't think they do i think if it's just to sleep with them let us assume that they 0.98

04:32:30.140 don't okay let us assume exactly that's not what i think they're talking about i think they're talking 0.99

04:32:34.140 about for long-term commitment but like look she's in a long-term committed relationship i have multiple 0.53

04:32:39.180 friends that are only fans girls porn stars dancers who are all in committed monogamous relationships 0.98

04:32:44.620 so these men's obviously don't give a fuck but they're but she's not in a committed monogamous 0.99

04:32:49.500 relationship right unless i yeah i mean they live together very much it's a very seriously yeah and 0.98

04:32:56.940 it is a very serious relationship it's the most serious one i've ever oh i wasn't doubting the

04:33:00.060 serious i meant about the monogamy though it's a little different you know it's a little different

04:33:04.860 than what you might think is like normal well that just kind of reiterates the point like you can be

04:33:09.100 in a serious relationship and not even expect monogamy and that's becoming culturally normal and i don't think

04:33:14.060 it's not culturally normal i i'm not you don't think it's culturally normal among our generation

04:33:19.100 it's becoming more in the younger generation not culturally normal anywhere in the united states

04:33:24.540 or in any western nation that i'm aware of if you're married or even have a girlfriend that you

04:33:30.460 on purpose allow other men to plow her that is not a cultural norm no okay so is the argument they're 0.99

04:33:37.260 ostracized by other men they're called cucks by other men they're uh considered to be less virtuous

04:33:42.940 they're mocked they're they're ridiculed endlessly but that sounds like the opposite

04:33:47.420 let's stay on the point let's stay on the point that it reflects that men do not care how many

04:33:52.620 women on the table and that's good that you're doing it because that's what your arguments are 1.00

04:33:57.100 they're circular but anyway go ahead side tangents to distract from the original point if you can show

04:34:01.820 me data that shows that modern american men care about virginity or body count then i will

04:34:07.420 absolutely concede because i am i've already displayed that i'm willing to do that but the

04:34:12.300 problem your argument is not strong enough for me to do that on this i don't but it doesn't matter

04:34:16.700 if the argument is not strong enough for your skepticism empirical data is not in a standard which

04:34:22.620 must be adhered to when you have logical demonstration so i logically demonstrated to

04:34:27.260 you that there must be some preference for chastity or most of the world wouldn't be religious

04:34:31.820 with chaste religious values okay it must be the case that they must value it to some degree right

04:34:38.060 and i gave you that if we were talking about the whole world and then i clarified that if we're

04:34:42.300 talking about america i just don't see anything that shows that men really care as much as you're

04:34:47.420 claiming i got a question i got a question if we were to do some poll if we were to go into the street

04:34:53.260 and approach a hundred men and we gave them two options and we said would you prefer to date a woman

04:34:59.820 with a body count of 10 or a body count of 100 do you think they would lean more towards one or the

04:35:07.020 other okay let's let's make the question what you said earlier a 10 who has a higher body count

04:35:11.900 no no no no no no no let's do these things factor in like i think men care more about how hot a chick 1.00

04:35:19.020 is than they do her body count okay so here we go personality individual differences you can find

04:35:26.060 this study it was done by katie sohn men's revealed preferences regarding women's promiscuity 0.71

04:35:32.380 uh in the abstract literally right away in the abstract now if you want i can get into because

04:35:37.660 i think it's fair if you're doing anything that's empirical that you want to probably understand

04:35:42.060 methodologies things like this but men have evolved to exhibit a desire for chastity and sexual fidelity

04:35:47.660 and an abhorrence of promiscuity in long-term mates we investigated whether these preferences

04:35:52.460 manifest themselves even in an unlikely situation like prostitution by observing men's behavior

04:35:57.820 we considered 88 817 prostitutes under 45 who worked in indonesian cities we measured female

04:36:05.260 promiscuity by experience in prostitution so if we go ahead without you know going into every

04:36:13.900 detail essentially in almost every section of this they preferred less promiscuity now you could say

04:36:21.740 well we could adjust because they're comparing them to prostitutes and there's cultural stigma

04:36:25.660 i can understand that too we're also talking about america specifically yeah yeah you can look at all

04:36:30.540 sorts of different uh variables inside the study variables matter yeah yeah i've granted that as being

04:36:36.060 totally fair okay but i just want to let you know that what's interesting about it is that what's cited

04:36:42.220 in the abstract immediately is that men have evolved to exhibit a desire for chastity and sexual fidelity

04:36:47.980 and an abhorrence of promiscuity and long-term mates why would that be fundamental in the abstract from

04:36:54.940 people who have an evolutionary view why would that be the case in the evolution from an evolutionary 0.94

04:37:00.940 perspective it's 100 valid and you believe in evolution correct i do then what the hell are you

04:37:07.260 talking about i'm saying that in modern evolution is not the only thing that factors into a person's

04:37:12.460 decision making yes you just said that evolutionarily men have evolved to not like promiscuity but you're

04:37:19.420 not convinced that men don't like promiscuity i'm super confused i'm saying that there's many things

04:37:24.940 that factor into a person's personality and their decision making there's nurture there's nature there's

04:37:28.860 evolutionary biology there's generational influences there's a lot of influences on what makes a person

04:37:34.700 make a decision yeah but what's going to be the stronger so for instance in nature versus nurture

04:37:40.300 we don't really know it could be 50 50 could be 70 30 fair we don't know exactly when you're talking

04:37:46.300 about nature literally is my point but when you're talking about nature itself and almost always does

04:37:51.740 come down to nature you're talking about things like iq things like this 100 there's only x amount

04:37:57.020 that can be done from nurture but the thing that's interesting is that even if we take into account

04:38:01.820 let's say it is a 50 50 between nature and nurture then your evolutionary biology of promiscuity the

04:38:07.740 nurture portion of that would also be brought down to the children from the biological parents who 0.79

04:38:15.020 were evolved to not like the promiscuity so you would have both of those strong correlates there you

04:38:21.100 cannot like it but i what was the question on here right like the that if a girl who does only fan 0.98

04:38:26.460 is less likely to find a partner and your retort to that is it's because men want someone who's less

04:38:30.940 promiscuous or doesn't have a high body count i think even if that is the case which i'm not saying it is

04:38:36.940 because i don't know i haven't seen anything that convinces me enough that men really care

04:38:41.340 except evolution currently okay on evolutionary level for sure absolutely but that's okay so then

04:38:47.020 the nurture level that's going to be part of evolution and when it comes to if they're actually

04:38:50.620 going to date the only fans girl i don't see many of them not in relationships or lacking we've already

04:38:56.220 we've already granted you that women who do only fans can get into relation we're not saying women who

04:39:02.220 do only fans they'll be forever alone they're going to be entirely precluded from ever having

04:39:06.300 a male partner but i don't think they're even less likely to find someone though wait you literally

04:39:10.540 didn't you literally concede i don't know if it was you i'm saying you don't you don't acknowledge

04:39:15.100 that a woman who's involved in sex work you don't think it closes the door at all for any 1.00

04:39:20.220 men yeah first to some guys to most i would argue that's the most men right that's where we're

04:39:25.020 having the disagreement so most would be i just don't most would be 51 or more i don't necessarily

04:39:30.620 you think 51 of men want to date a woman let's let's do the even if they don't want to that doesn't

04:39:36.060 mean that they're not doing it i could say i prefer okay i could say i prefer a guy who doesn't have

04:39:42.140 a high body count and then i meet someone and i fall in love with them and i'm like you know what as

04:39:46.140 long as you're monogamous with me i can look past it and i think that happens a lot for i just have

04:39:51.180 one last one last question right because i just want to i just want to tell you on the other end

04:39:56.380 of the study now to be completely fair to you i'm looking this up on the fly because you're asking for

04:40:00.060 empirical data right um so i mean you have every right to question it but one thing here the results

04:40:07.180 that were derived from this particular study it demonstrated that men exhibited those evolutionary

04:40:12.780 preferences because they paid less to more experienced prostitutes and they paid more 0.66

04:40:17.740 to less experienced prostitutes why do you think that would be to avoid stds i'm sure

04:40:23.660 but again you're trying to compare cross hang on these prostitutes 1.00

04:40:29.180 stds

04:40:29.740 thank you thank you donated 500 is a brave and a decent okay let's move raven time to move on all

04:40:36.300 right we gotta mute our mic for 10 minutes because that's a hang on can i just finish it real quick

04:40:40.220 yeah go ahead they controlled for stds so why did they want the less experienced prostitutes and 1.00

04:40:46.620 paid them more than the more experienced prostitutes 10 seconds and then if i had to imagine it would be 0.97

04:40:52.140 to avoid stds like you're gonna yeah i know that was controlled for they didn't have stds and and

04:40:57.180 the people participating in the study knew this less experienced women are a lot easier to dominate 1.00

04:41:03.180 okay um well but wait i thought that the reason that we valued the promiscuity is because of those

04:41:10.700 experienced women who had experience but why are they getting paid less that's weird mute it 1.00

04:41:15.580 mute it well we'll put her back on at 10. uh okay it's just like you wouldn't even i was enjoying that

04:41:23.420 argument but okay fair enough you weren't even answering the the 10 versus 100 you mentioned stds

04:41:30.380 hold on well they can't even hear you your microphone's muted look you mentioned stds

04:41:37.660 the more sexual partners you've had the greater risk for stds in any case

04:41:44.860 i'm gonna move on so we're gonna get to our notes here for sky sky you said you were uh engaged in oh

04:41:51.660 we kind of talked about your online thing you took the mushrooms thing yeah he molded a large amount of

04:41:58.060 your interest uh he really did you wasted your time on him you said you used to hook up with a guy who

04:42:03.420 was a mechanic but you're actually kind of terrified that you're terrified of yeah i'm kind of terrified

04:42:09.260 of his um interest in me because for the most part he did you want to read the rest of what he requested

04:42:20.460 from me yeah he wanted to dress he wanted you to dress him up and do his makeup for him to get

04:42:28.300 railed by a dude and for you to watch and degrade him yeah that's essentially what he wanted and so um

04:42:37.500 what it's wild what really terrifies me about the situation is the willingness for him to

04:42:44.140 like did you do it no i haven't done it and i don't plan on doing it it's but you're still with

04:42:51.340 him i wasn't with him okay uh he was the guy that i went on five dates with and what date did he reveal

04:42:59.020 that right he didn't have unveiled that uh until recently he unveiled it like

04:43:06.220 i got with him in like 2020 and then uh since then he's just reached out to me a few times

04:43:17.100 i reached out to him today because i wanted to see how he's doing but why okay um anyways

04:43:23.820 uh you said you disagree with the hosts dating expectations so what are those so necessarily um

04:43:31.420 um when you say the burdens of like dating and primarily being on the guy yeah um i think that

04:43:41.260 the guy chooses essentially who he wants to be with and the woman has to like acquiesce to that 0.94

04:43:49.820 like a woman does not set the tone of the relationship by being the one that wants to engage like 1.00

04:43:58.780 like she may desire the relationship but he's the one that ultimately decides okay we're going to be

04:44:07.020 together well i don't understand what does that have to do with what does that have to do with uh

04:44:14.940 my dating expectations dating expectations i think i was saying it along the lines of

04:44:20.460 you were framing it as though men have this tremendous burden or this um inequitable burden

04:44:30.140 to date in the dating realm that you know they have to pursue the woman they have to do you disagree

04:44:39.820 with that you don't think men have to be initiators and typically have to i just don't think of it as a

04:44:46.220 burden i think of it yeah uh have you ever approached a guy yes yeah several times do you

04:44:54.220 have any like anxiety when you do that there's no i mean there's definitely emotions involved but i

04:45:00.380 don't think i think the more that you've done it the less sensitive you are to it sure depends on

04:45:07.900 whether or not you're a submissive woman or a dominant woman because if you're an aggressor you're 0.95

04:45:11.580 gonna go after the guy i go after the guy i don't wait for the guy to come to me but i'm also very

04:45:15.740 particular the type of guys that i like so so you disagree that it's a burden i don't think i think

04:45:23.980 the phrasing of it being a burden means that like it's a negative experience going into it

04:45:32.380 when in reality how many men have you rejected throughout your life

04:45:40.620 oh i can't no no no no let me ask these other girls here how many men would you say you've 1.00

04:45:45.820 rejected throughout the course of your life thousands yeah probably thousands every every

04:45:50.700 dm you don't respond to if you've had the dating app every message you don't respond to

04:45:55.980 uh any guys who've ever approached you at a bar or a club or at school whatever

04:46:02.220 it is uh thousands thousands yeah a lot yeah how many times have you been rejected

04:46:10.060 one time one time what about you twice how many how many guys would you say you've rejected

04:46:17.100 a lot thousands sure thousands hundreds i don't know about thousands um you have you ever been

04:46:24.700 rejected no how many how many uh men have you rejected

04:46:32.940 oh that's right oops uh i've probably rejected around like 20 men total have you ever been on a

04:46:39.660 dating app oh god you've rejected a lot more than 20 men if you've been on a dating app uh have you ever

04:46:48.300 been rejected yes okay how many times at least like 20 okay all right what about you how many times

04:46:56.860 have you rejected men if you include instagram dms and sure yeah instagram dms a lot okay

04:47:04.380 thousands throughout the course of your life i mean maybe if you include the internet yeah include the

04:47:09.580 internet bars clubs men approaching you yeah same thousands thousands madison hundreds uh so if you're

04:47:20.540 a man and say that you're and actually i mean a success rate of like 10 of the women you talk to

04:47:29.500 you end up sleeping with that's a very high success rate for a man how could that not be a burden if you

04:47:36.460 have to talk to 10 women and get you know make an effort make initiative make an attempt who knows

04:47:43.420 how far you could you could take those 10 women on dates even and it not go anywhere how could that 0.96

04:47:49.660 not be a burden it's not necessarily a burden i'd say that's not a burden that's the selection pool you

04:47:55.420 go into dating with the idea that okay this is a potential mate this is a potential but it's not

04:48:02.860 guaranteed but if we're comparing so we're doing a comparison here between men and women yeah right

04:48:08.620 so the experiences of men compared to the experiences of women if all of these burdens

04:48:15.020 fall on men approaching carrying the conversation soliciting a first date soliciting the phone number

04:48:21.740 setting up the date carrying and leading the conversation on the date paying for the date

04:48:26.780 moving things forward physically moving things forward sexually closing the distance gap going for the kiss

04:48:32.060 etc etc etc these are all individual points where men potentially face rejection and women face

04:48:38.220 rejection via like uh their assertion of femininity and or their i don't even know what that means

04:48:47.340 like okay like say for instance uh you're not as receptive to uh move that a guy makes but you're still

04:48:55.740 very much interested in him uh that could be taken what do you mean yeah yeah you're not making sense

04:49:02.700 because if i'm interested in a guy i'm not going to reject him if that he makes right and and like

04:49:06.860 when you say you're of into the mics guys if you're the the assessment of femininity what is what does that

04:49:12.300 mean meaning like there's certain dating practices that both men and women have to uphold and

04:49:21.260 uh uh a woman asserting her feminine 0.99

04:49:26.220 and uh 0.99

04:49:38.060 shit my phrasing on this is not great but um 0.99

04:49:41.580 women have to mentally brace themselves for like um responding to men and being attractive being 1.00

04:49:57.340 their idea of what a girlfriend should be um trying to uh forecast his actual um

04:50:06.940 um responsiveness to you as a person because uh sometimes guys will go into relationships

04:50:15.980 and they look for women that don't show them as much attention um because they want i'm sorry

04:50:22.300 i gotta cut you off i don't know what you're can you arrive at the point here like make an actual argument 0.83

04:50:27.580 i don't know can i say something sure i think that the counter burden

04:50:38.220 to what you're talking about is like the the dangers of actually dating and going with some

04:50:44.780 guy you don't know like you don't know their intentions and i mean i've had really bad experiences

04:50:50.860 with going on dinner dates where it didn't actually end in dinner so it's definitely a burden okay so

04:50:58.700 we can talk about these uh i mean i'm talking about like normal psychology here like i'm not talking about

04:51:10.220 yeah okay there's a fear that women have of being assaulted but let's talk about like let's

04:51:15.580 say the girl's normal the guy's normal who has the burden there 0.69

04:51:23.020 i would like healthy dynamics we can talk about like abnormal psychology and people who are 0.86

04:51:29.020 fucked up and people who would be inclined to victimize to you let's talk about just an otherwise 0.82

04:51:33.500 healthy first date definitely it's more on the man i would say because the women i feel at least in 0.97

04:51:40.300 my experience and there have been exceptions to this but overall i don't really have to do anything

04:51:45.420 besides just kind of existing and show up and being basically polite and friendly um and the guy

04:51:53.340 just he's the one who has to kind of convince me to sleep with him yes exactly basically he does get

04:51:59.660 to decide whether or not we are in a committed relationship for sure but i actually have a fair

04:52:03.580 amount of control over where that goes if the man is truly interested in me in my experience so

04:52:10.140 so i mean you guys could be very much right um i mainly just disagreed with the phrasing of it as

04:52:20.220 being a burden um but i can understand why it would be considered a burden for men to go through all

04:52:28.860 those lengths and then not and then get rejected well well hang on in this in this case in this context

04:52:35.260 when he's saying burden he's not saying burden is in burden some necessarily but what the obligation

04:52:41.820 or social obligation of that's that's what kind of that means in that context of burden who has the

04:52:48.060 burden to pay for the date doesn't necessarily mean that it's burdensome that a man pays for the date but

04:52:53.740 we're just asking who do you think has kind of the obligation that's that's what that means in that

04:52:58.380 context okay i honestly i think that's something that should be on the rise to change especially

04:53:05.660 with all women talking about oh i want equality and this and then well if you want equality then 0.99

04:53:10.380 pay for half the goddamn date put your card out on the table when it's time to pay instead of go to the 0.98

04:53:15.500 bathroom um like most women do in my experience with dating i've been i'm considered a modern woman um i 0.99

04:53:23.180 don't necessarily expect the guy to pay for the date um and dates that i've been on i've paid for

04:53:30.060 myself before um but most recently i say was a traditional experience where i went out with a

04:53:40.300 guy and he paid for everything um and he didn't expect me to um how question how many times have you

04:53:47.820 had that experience once okay um any women here like have any women here been on like more than 0.97

04:53:57.420 one date where the guy took care of everything yes what what do you guys think is more common

04:54:05.580 the man taking care of everything or the woman taking care of everything i've never i've never been

04:54:11.180 on a date with a girl where i ever could have gone in with the expectation that she was going to pay for 0.94

04:54:16.060 the whole thing has never happened in my entire life never it's either split or i pay that the

04:54:22.620 that's it the way i've dated in the past before i was married was if i invite the guy out then i'm

04:54:28.460 going to expect to pay because i invited him i extended the invitation so if i say hey let's go to

04:54:34.460 a movie or let me take you out to dinner then i'm gonna pay why because i invited him out because i

04:54:39.820 want to that i'm not saying that you know if he decides oh no no let me pay or let me pay for half

04:54:44.780 yeah i'm gonna let him because he's taking the initiative to want to do more but that doesn't

04:54:48.940 necessarily mean that everything's always on the guy and i think that's the narrative that should

04:54:52.780 change is that it shouldn't always be on the guy because guys shouldn't necessarily have to be

04:54:57.020 burdened with all of it he's just saying as of right now the burden is typically no for sure and

04:55:01.420 that's i know i agree with him and burden doesn't even like he was saying it's just it just translate

04:55:05.660 to responsibility well yeah but i don't think even in my experience and this is a very unique

04:55:12.220 experience uh the burden of conversation is necessarily on the guy meaning i have to engage

04:55:19.740 intellectually with him uh bring up topics of conversation keep things interesting and not just

04:55:27.100 you know like kind of if i did what most women do on the first date there would be dead silence

04:55:35.020 on the first like i'm telling you women are not prepared to carry the conversation 0.99

04:55:40.700 on the first date what kind of women are you dating some women are some women are good 1.00

04:55:44.700 conversation women some women are good however like if i if if i were to like if i were to just be 1.00

04:55:52.620 silent and kind of like wait for to see what the woman does it would be really awkward conversationally 0.77

04:56:01.820 it would be really awkward here let's play let's play that we're on a date okay i'm gonna be a chick

04:56:07.500 okay go okay uh what do you do for work podcaster oh interesting so how long have you been doing that

04:56:15.660 for two years two years and uh have you ever considered any career changes nope i like what i do

04:56:22.620 you like what you do i like what i do too do you have these girls brian who are these girls who hurt

04:56:29.020 you like that tell me tell me you've never had a conversation like this with the guy

04:56:34.300 i typically am the one rambling yeah the first thing that we talk about should not be like what

04:56:38.540 we do for work to be honest well that's la if you're in la that's that's why my dating bio is

04:56:43.180 like i'm not trying to do that small talk bullshit actual interest and like personality and well i 0.60

04:56:48.700 mean that takes work though that takes emotional labor um i thought we were still having our

04:56:56.700 conversation you weren't interested you weren't interested in my conversation uh so you said

04:57:02.540 that when you were 17 you made a tinder to gain experience with guys because you didn't get any

04:57:06.460 attention from guys in high school in high school yeah you guessed you weren't their type even though i

04:57:12.140 went to school with like 7 000 kids i went yeah so uh never got approached by a guy in high school

04:57:20.300 no i'm well i'm more focused on the tinder tinder at 17 well i mean isn't that against the rules or

04:57:27.660 that it is against the rules and it's dangerous and it's dangerous but i did it anyway okay you're

04:57:33.820 putting you're putting lots of men at risk yeah i mean some states it's the legal age like i know

04:57:39.580 louisiana you can be 17 but still it's still like i agree i've always been in california anyways um

04:57:45.740 disavow that but you said you believe that you kind of ruined your youthful experience by forcing

04:57:50.380 yourself to experiment i think you've always been hypersexual and the fact that i didn't get attention

04:57:55.900 in school made you act out and seek male validation online yes um i think uh um me not experiencing like

04:58:06.620 an organic relationship with a guy uh in my youth really informed my relationships with men

04:58:16.460 going into my 20s because uh i didn't really have any male friends i didn't have any males that were

04:58:24.540 seeking my uh attention um and if they were they weren't making it obvious that they were seeking my

04:58:32.220 attention um so i and i i'm not going to talk about it because it's tos um but i've been hypersexual from a

04:58:45.500 fairly young age like i've um i've known what porn was for a very long time and so i knew exactly the

04:58:57.020 the the ways around like the body and i was very curious to all right okay okay um moving on you

04:59:06.140 said that your main contention with age gap relationships is that the value of both men

04:59:10.220 and women diminish in society as they age and people of similar value should be together people

04:59:15.900 that are older cannot sustain themselves as long as the youth can yeah so do you object to age gap

04:59:21.580 relationships um yes for the most part okay so is anybody here in an age gap relationship me what's

04:59:28.860 your what's your relate nine years i'm older oh you're older and you're so you're 45 and he's

04:59:35.500 34 35 36 35 okay and then what about you yeah everyone i've dated except the last guy i gave a

04:59:43.820 chance has been seven plus years older my husband's 41 okay uh so andrew's probably keen to uh weigh in

04:59:52.780 on this but what are your uh i guess your actual objections to age gap relationships i expressed that

05:00:00.460 the value uh that you're going to put in a relationship as you get older is going to change

05:00:05.580 uh and it's going to be less or more i think it's less we've also as you get older

05:00:11.660 isn't it wait and i have the beholder because i love some older men let me tell you i like like

05:00:18.140 some young one of the complaints i hear from younger women like women who are in college 18 19 20 21 is 1.00

05:00:25.100 they say these men don't want commitment they just want to fuck they're fuck boys uh 0.99

05:00:32.300 it seems to me that younger men tend to lean towards not being a little bit more opposed to 0.99

05:00:37.500 commitment than men who are a bit older uh i would disagree um i think that um younger men are probably

05:00:53.340 less likely to say that they want a relationship with a girl because um

05:00:59.420 they have nerves about them i don't know i don't know why men or why people think that younger men

05:01:10.860 don't want relationships with women i think it's based on topics like we talked about promiscuity so 0.99

05:01:19.420 we're in a culture where promiscuity is on the rise and um your intentions with somebody may be

05:01:29.260 askew so i in my encounters with men that i've had they're very much open to relationships it's just a

05:01:38.140 matter of position and place and the person that they're looking for and not necessarily didn't you

05:01:46.060 say you've been single your whole life yes well i mean if you're meeting all these men that are

05:01:52.060 open to having relationships what has precluded you from having a relationship i'm not meeting a

05:01:58.300 bunch of men that are interested in me necessarily or okay that's fair well let's bring it back to age

05:02:04.780 gap though so i'm still can you explain a little better kind of your objections there sorry yeah other

05:02:10.940 than it just being icky which but why is it icky yeah why is it why is it legal consenting age right

05:02:17.420 i i didn't meet my husband when he was in high school i met him when he was a grown man

05:02:22.700 um i think does it give you the ick it gives you the ick it gives me the ick

05:02:31.260 doesn't it because i've always experienced uh the world where people of a similar age have a similar

05:02:39.740 outlook on life and you once you cross cross a certain boundary threshold that changes and it

05:02:49.660 could take lead to people being taken advantage of um even if they're you're right these young women 1.00

05:02:56.940 are taking advantage of these older men resources they're they're they're fleecing them for money

05:03:03.260 you're right these young women are predatory who's who's taken well in my my instance for example who's 1.00

05:03:09.260 taking advantage of who then am i taking advantage of my husband because he's younger or is he taking

05:03:13.260 advantage of me because i'm older um it could be a situation of both of you taking advantage of each

05:03:19.420 other how how is that what do you mean take it how does that work he's taking advantage of the fact

05:03:23.980 that you're older and you probably have less options advantages and bad what do you mean i have

05:03:27.740 less shots fired first of all wait wait first of all options for a potential mate that's not true at all 0.70

05:03:34.860 because i'm a i'm a grab okay that's first and foremost secondly just because i'm nine years

05:03:41.900 older than my husband does not mean that i have less options if him and i broke up tomorrow or if 0.98

05:03:46.860 he died tomorrow trust me i'm gonna be riding some dick eventually in a week or two okay but it's it's 0.96

05:03:52.700 a matter of i'm just basing facts facts are facts okay so do you think that you would find a man of 0.98

05:04:01.180 similar value to him at your age absolutely someone that is your age i don't date men my age

05:04:09.900 why not because i date men that are younger than me for a particular reason why because they can keep

05:04:14.860 up with me older men that is one older men older men cannot keep up with someone like me i'm a hyper 0.86

05:04:24.380 bitch so if you can't keep up then i have no use for you so there's no advantage being taken if 1.00

05:04:30.060 especially if i'm older you would think that i would be taking advantage of him right well it's an 0.98

05:04:35.660 advantage i mean i don't think taking advantage is necessarily right i'm not forcing him to have 0.74

05:04:40.860 sex with me he wants to have sex with me there's no there's no taking advantage of i'm not holding my 1.00

05:04:45.420 husband by the head for you because he's younger and you get the sex you want because you're crazy 1.00

05:04:50.140 in the bed you know so it's advantage and it's not bad right it's not a bad advantage but i wasn't 0.99

05:04:56.540 carrying his books home for him for school at school when he was 17 i wasn't saying that

05:05:00.620 i was just saying i'm in favor of older men obviously but playing devil's advocate it can

05:05:08.620 be the case that predatory people pick younger people because they're easier to manipulate and

05:05:15.100 they are naive and they're easier to mold and control that is absolutely a thing but i don't

05:05:20.700 think you can say that that's just broadly every dynamic like that right and it's not

05:05:25.180 hang on hang on hang on do you have a study for that do you have an example

05:05:30.540 hang on who made the claim okay so let me let me pull you hang on you just said i don't think that

05:05:38.220 that's generally what's going on i don't think and do you have any empirical evidence to back that up

05:05:44.300 at all she doesn't want to make generalizations because not every relationship that was she

05:05:51.260 literally said i don't think generally that's what's going on no no i don't think generally

05:05:56.300 that's what's going on right you don't do you have any empirical evidence whatsoever to support that

05:06:01.020 okay you generally don't want me to write you a thesis and come back and tell you i'm not asking

05:06:05.420 for a thesis i'm asking hey there's a reason i'm asking this because earlier you jumped all over brian

05:06:11.580 and said hang on let me finish sorry sorry you jumped all over brian and you were all kinds

05:06:16.540 of upset with him because he was not demonstrating empirical evidence to go with a generalized statement

05:06:23.340 and yet here hang on you made a claim and you said generally i don't think that's what's going on

05:06:29.340 and you also have no empirical evidence whatsoever to back that claim up correct i think it's actually

05:06:35.020 backwards i think y'all were the ones that got upset and like muted me i was like happy to debate it

05:06:38.700 it um i wasn't upset at all like i i like to debate and and further my understanding of things

05:06:45.100 by hearing opposite sides so like i'm not upset just because we may not come to the same conclusion

05:06:49.900 but you wanted but now with any with any topic am i going to just have like the best debate thing

05:06:55.580 prepared like no i would there's some things that if it's being uh presented to you for the first time

05:07:01.020 you're going to talk in generalities right yeah i mean i'm not good and that's okay to do right and

05:07:06.940 so sometimes so maybe asking for empirics when if you're not uh if you're not prepared to have my

05:07:12.780 studies ready in a moment's notice if it's okay for you to do then it's okay for us to do that sound

05:07:18.380 fair yeah but sometimes things are like common sense and i'm just saying i don't that's what he was

05:07:22.780 saying i just genuinely don't think that's the case but i admit that it's my anecdotal experiences

05:07:27.740 yeah yeah so i'm just saying that if you know what's good for the goose good for the gander

05:07:33.420 right no i feel like so instead of like trying to trash us i think there are not having empirical

05:07:38.780 evidence just remember that you often speak in generalities without having any either so yeah i

05:07:43.020 mean yeah sure but if i had like a jamie i'm sure he could pull up like there's got to be studies on

05:07:48.460 there's no jamie here yeah no i know i'm saying generally speaking generally yeah generally do you

05:07:54.220 have a study for if you generally had a jamie that you would pull up the right oh my god

05:08:00.460 so anyway there's gotta be studies on that when you're talking about the ick

05:08:05.580 the it gives you the ick me are you talking to me yeah yeah yeah the ick it gives you the ick

05:08:11.020 gives her um you you wouldn't say though that it's an immoral thing right it's not actually immoral 0.99

05:08:18.460 i oh shit i think it isn't immoral because it's legal and it's there's no um 0.98

05:08:32.380 i haven't i don't think i can make a justification for why why is it icky why do you find it ick 0.99

05:08:39.100 what about it is ick what about me having sex with a guy who's 36 and i'm 45 what does that what's 0.92

05:08:45.020 what's the effector there do you want me to be like no holds bar do it yeah let's go find out let's 0.72

05:08:51.980 go um i think it just points to a desperation in both parties for a sense of except you've been

05:09:03.820 you've been single your entire life what and i've been married for 10 years to the same guy

05:09:08.620 but continue like get defensive and start like getting angry with one another i'm just i'm

05:09:13.020 making a point i'm making she's been single her whole life so with what experience and what you

05:09:18.700 know wherewithal knowledge do you have on this topic she's an absurd well okay but earlier we 1.00

05:09:23.900 were talking about only fans and you don't have only fans right but you can still have an opinion

05:09:27.260 on it so you don't always have to have her experience y'all be nice nice i don't know i just

05:09:32.300 like is that not a valid enough reason i see i mean that like you can imagine from from a if you

05:09:42.140 were to say take a conservative christian for instance then you were to lay all of his moral

05:09:47.180 intuitions on things that gave him the ick and called that moral that that would lead to all sorts

05:09:52.620 of things immoral you probably wouldn't they're all donated two hundred dollars okay so then guys who

05:09:58.540 date older women have mommy issues and are overall weird men generally age like wine and women 0.98

05:10:04.620 generally age like bananas age gap is perfectly normal when guy is older i would love to see a

05:10:10.780 picture of you mr meeple mr meeple send a picture she wants to have carnal knowledge with you she wants 0.61

05:10:18.620 you romantically and sexually mr meeple but she needs a photo first also not to mention women of melanated 0.98

05:10:25.980 color do not age like bananas thank you very much that is it is true why women age like bananas 1.00

05:10:34.540 are you talking you're not ugly you're just poor no no no we've seen kylan jenner hold on more like

05:10:39.500 plantains i've been playing yeah yeah like is it not bananas but plantains okay uh right like for 0.73

05:10:49.500 example maddie maddie's asian i'm hispanic and black we we don't we don't age the same we don't age

05:10:54.380 the same oh my god no that's true that there are studies on that that melanin does make you age 0.99

05:10:59.580 better that is a real thing about this oh i just made the shit up white don't blight white don't 1.00

05:11:04.540 blight white don't blight you're so stupid what does that mean you know you don't know what blight 1.00

05:11:09.980 is white don't blight hold on let me google this shit just to make sure i'm giving no that that would 1.00

05:11:14.780 be correct the blight yeah like you're talking about blight like potato blights and shit like that 0.99

05:11:20.700 a thing that spoils or damages um uh yeah so we're all spoiled if white blight oh my no that's 0.95

05:11:29.900 not what i'm saying he was trying to make a joke oh okay sorry it's like it's hard to tell sometimes

05:11:35.980 when i got the joke yeah okay um i i'm gonna move things on a little bit here going to corinne sir

05:11:43.900 you said i can personally guarantee that you haven't had any women like me on your show i have 0.99

05:11:50.060 no problem in laying into people especially if they're just morons that need to be taken down a 0.89

05:11:54.700 peg or two it's true i know i have some invaluable dating advice and i'll lead with this one uh never 0.99

05:12:00.860 believe your parents or the advice they give you about sex or dating yeah absolutely what that's why

05:12:06.700 uh yeah because i mean let's go back to back in the day i'm talking about before the internet i mean

05:12:13.500 i grew up without the internet i grew up without any gps or anything like that so of course your

05:12:19.260 parents are trying to protect you and tell you certain things about dating and tell you who are

05:12:24.140 who and what not to date because back in the day for sure they're trying to keep you like for example

05:12:29.260 straight and narrow yeah well not even straight and narrow like culturally a lot of cultures will be

05:12:34.060 like date within your own culture i'm not dating spanish man because there's some i could be

05:12:38.060 related to one of them i'm not trying to do that but further the likelihood of that happening though

05:12:43.900 i mean it's happened it's happened if you're from a small island it's happened you've dated a cousin

05:12:49.420 i'm i i haven't but you know if you go if you're coming from a place like haiti puerto rico jamaica

05:12:56.300 there's been a chance that you dated someone that you're somewhat related to that's it's happened

05:13:00.220 it's going to happen you know with if you're only staying within your culture and it's cup your

05:13:04.220 culture is literally an island this big the chances of you dating a fourth a third cousin is probably

05:13:09.660 happened okay but how does that apply to parental advice because your parents are going to guide you

05:13:16.620 to do things moralistically as far as like church values things like that you know if you if you grow

05:13:21.660 up religious your parents are going to tell you not to have sex before marriage now i'm i don't think

05:13:27.580 that's good i'd like to know what i'd like to know what i'm getting into before i marry like i'm not

05:13:32.940 like i made this point earlier today with the girls was you you chest out the product before you buy it

05:13:37.900 no my grandmother literally taught us you you try the milk before you buy the cow so i don't know who

05:13:43.180 y'all's parents are maybe it's like a louisiana thing and they're they are crazy in louisiana but

05:13:47.500 for the most part a lot of people that i i've known yeah but that's that's advice towards men they're

05:13:52.460 supposed to give that advice to women the advice is supposed to be for men you go and you 0.99

05:13:57.420 test out the cow before you buy the cow cow is female okay don't buy the bull she didn't say go 1.00

05:14:03.420 test out the bull no no she actually what no she had this thing hanging and it said both things it 0.92

05:14:07.740 said don't buy the pig before you test the sausage too swear to god it said both things 0.92

05:14:12.940 i i need to know what kind of sausage i'm getting before i buy before i buy it grandma crazy they are

05:14:17.980 the whole family my mom used to tell me if you're ever gonna smoke weed just come to me instead i don't 0.98

05:14:22.380 want you smoking cigarettes i'm like damn dude yeah it's crazy if i if i was talking to a guy for 0.98

05:14:28.380 like three years and then we got married and then we and then we waited to have sex and his and he 0.99

05:14:32.860 couldn't please me then i would honestly probably end up in a divorce because what what if he was

05:14:40.140 like good to you in every other way though but if you couldn't please if you couldn't please me

05:14:43.500 sexually that's a huge factor like sex is a huge factor like my grandmother told me if you want to if 1.00

05:14:49.020 you want if you want to keep a white guy cup his balls when you're sucking his dick that's what 1.00

05:14:53.100 she said oh my god my most recent that is no lie actually i just i just ran into that that's what 1.00

05:14:59.900 grandma said grandma said i want to know the stats of how many men have affairs on their wives that they 1.00

05:15:04.700 married virgins uh it's actually quite low so your chance of divorce drastically go down if you get

05:15:12.140 married as a virgin male and a virgin female your chances of stepping outside your marriage go drastically

05:15:16.700 down as well yeah that is not a problem anybody at this table is ever going to have but uh it is

05:15:24.060 you know for it that that is what the stats show okay well so what is wrong though with like parents

05:15:32.220 trying to guide their children and like the right sometimes they sometimes parents can guide you in

05:15:37.100 the wrong direction for example if you grow up in a super religious home and you're taught as a man

05:15:41.740 not to masturbate because masturbating is bad or that you know self-love or self-care is bad that 0.99

05:15:47.180 guy is not going to really know what the fuck he's doing later on in life when he's trying to 0.99

05:15:51.500 get involved in a relationship sexually i think people figure it out yeah but i mean that's the 0.97

05:15:56.060 point the the whole point is to attempt to keep a person chaste in order to keep their virtue intact 0.89

05:16:03.420 so i mean like from from your perspective i understand what you're saying you're saying

05:16:07.900 look um for me i want sexual liberation and this type of thing but i mean for most parents they're

05:16:13.180 going to want to try to keep you away from a bad crowd they're going to try to keep your virtues

05:16:17.260 intact your reputation intact because that doesn't actually matter in life it is part of success in life

05:16:23.660 is virtue and that is the thing that used to be part of that whole culture you're talking about

05:16:28.780 pre-internet same culture i grew up in and virtues did matter and you know what here's the thing

05:16:35.420 everyone knew who the skanks were in high school and we didn't treat them that great that's just the 1.00

05:16:40.220 truth we didn't treat them that great and um yeah they didn't they didn't have it great just saying

05:16:46.780 so i understand why parents would lean towards trying to keep those virtues intact for both

05:16:52.540 uh their sons and their daughters it made it makes a lot of sense i mean i'm of the opinion

05:16:58.220 and my dad convinced me of this just getting older that the word of your parents is like the word of

05:17:04.220 god and unless they touch you then what okay well we can't get into that we're not going to get into

05:17:11.980 that on the on the podcast on youtube i just like don't like the the derogatory words that are used for

05:17:18.540 women that are like to have sex because like there's women like like myself that have been through horrible

05:17:26.460 sexual experiences and that's going to make you act in a way when you're a child and you don't know 0.56

05:17:31.820 any better in a way that people could label you but that doesn't define you as a whole person just

05:17:36.860 because you like well let's um let's grant it for a second and say yes that's correct there could be

05:17:42.780 women who have emotional issues due to some type of horrific experiences that they have in their

05:17:48.140 childhood there's plenty of women who have no horrific experiences early in their childhood and are often

05:17:54.140 also promiscuous why can't those labels be used towards those women i just feel like using like 0.98

05:18:01.260 oh those women weren't treated well as an excuse to like it's just for whore behavior for i i don't 1.00

05:18:08.460 think that's fair to treat something like because what about the men that are whoring around how did 0.93

05:18:12.780 those men get treated yeah but that's how what about the men do just stop for a second you're making a

05:18:19.740 typical what about the mendo argument so let's start let's start first not what about the mendo why

05:18:25.900 is everybody not mad at the men let's start with the first claim which i don't like the fact that

05:18:32.060 society will use and by the way women do this to women far more than men do one of the first derogatory 0.94

05:18:37.820 thing a woman does to another woman is call her um yeah that's the first thing that they do they they 1.00

05:18:43.740 that's what they do i mean so maybe that's so the thing is they do hang on hang on so the thing is

05:18:48.860 is like yes these things uh the reason that these terms are used you could say strumpet lady of the

05:18:55.820 night right whatever you want to say they're pointing out not doesn't have virtue that's what they're

05:19:01.660 pointing out not virtuous and and it's a really easy way to use a word to just go no virtue that's

05:19:08.700 that's why it's used that way

05:19:15.420 you stumped you have a response can i andrew do you hold do you hold the same views towards like

05:19:20.700 do you find men who are have like high body counts less uh desirable or like they have less value

05:19:29.100 do you view it the same way well so so like so look so let's dive into this so there's a little

05:19:34.140 bit of nuance here i think what you're asking me is do i think that men who are promiscuous also have

05:19:40.620 lower virtue my answer is yes i think that they have lower virtue as well but not less value in the

05:19:48.220 dating market it seems that women don't have the same preferences that men do when it comes to a higher

05:19:55.900 body count they don't seem to care as much about it in fact they often seem to want to compete for men 0.99

05:20:01.340 who have higher body counts because they have women all over them and that's what they're competing 1.00

05:20:05.820 over so women don't have to compete for hierarchy but they do have to compete with each other to grab 1.00

05:20:11.260 somebody inside of a hierarchy so that's been general human conditioning so women are always 1.00

05:20:16.220 competing with each other so if women see other women gravitating towards a single man they tend to 0.54

05:20:21.580 compete more for that man so it doesn't actually lower their value in the dating marketplace but i think

05:20:26.060 it lowers their value as far as virtue goes i was just curious your stance on it in general

05:20:32.860 but also women will compete for married men too they see a ring on a man's because they're high 1.00

05:20:37.020 value yes exactly yeah but but that's just but that's the same thing you're talking about you're

05:20:43.100 saying they're competing with a man who another woman desires and that makes them gravitate towards

05:20:49.180 that man the same thing happens with women when they're um you know going after single men if they 1.00

05:20:54.620 see that he gets a lot of female attention they tend to gravitate more towards him why do you think 0.99

05:20:58.700 women are always out with these ugly ass fucking rock stars right they they're always that because 1.00

05:21:04.140 they're super desired by other women right even though they're ugly as sin you know like mick jagger's 1.00

05:21:09.900 not a good looking guy but he's not he's not having trouble stephen tyler ugliest sin stephen tyler 0.88

05:21:16.540 is one of the ugliest men i've probably ever seen he looks more like a woman than most women i know 1.00

05:21:21.020 yeah but he's not having trouble picking up chicks dude flavor flavor i just think it's because they 0.99

05:21:25.580 have money but i bet if they were ugly and didn't have money then they probably wouldn't be able to 1.00

05:21:30.060 get chicks i don't think yeah i got it well i agree maybe whether the woman's gravitating towards 1.00

05:21:37.260 him because he has money uh or they're gravitating towards him because he's really good looking it

05:21:41.020 doesn't matter the fact that they're gravitating towards him does not seem to be a deterrent from

05:21:45.180 other women it's a deterrent to me yeah i'm i mean i'm sure to some women but generally speaking

05:21:52.140 yeah no yeah just in in generalities yeah

05:21:57.980 wow good time to return what did i miss anything interesting i don't know uh going back to you you

05:22:05.500 said you're 45 but you look 33 without a bucket of makeup yeah like when i know that's what you run on 0.98

05:22:12.220 no uh you said you're married but not legally because that's stupid yep yeah you did say you 0.99

05:22:18.220 were married for 10 years but not legally married so within the church or we went to um the little 0.98

05:22:24.700 chapel in vegas so we just got married for us just to kind of re-solidify our relationship and

05:22:29.740 commitment to each other and the reason why we didn't do it legally is because i don't need the

05:22:34.060 government tracking every our every move and i'd rather be independent with my own money he has his money

05:22:39.740 if anything were to go sour south between the two of us he can go his way i can go my way we live

05:22:44.540 in california where it's divided 50 50. my ambitions and pursuits with my career could catapult

05:22:51.740 me to be a multi-millionaire and then he's a musician and same thing goes for him so why muck up

05:22:57.820 our money together if especially nothing is forever nothing is for certain so i'd rather you

05:23:02.940 know him protect his assets i protect mine yes now you said that you're also a recovering 0.96

05:23:08.540 sex addict with a high body count uh and you said you didn't give us an exact number but you said it

05:23:14.460 was three three digits is that correct okay uh you said you were dating strange men long before social 0.89

05:23:20.940 media existed this is true you never knew if you would make it home from a date this is thrilling it

05:23:26.540 was it was because thrilling time it was i mean look as as someone who was a sex addict i was involved in a

05:23:34.380 lot of reckless and very high endangerment situations because of where i came from i suffered through a

05:23:41.740 lot of childhood trauma um things that were categorically like unconceivable for most people

05:23:47.980 i lost both my parents before i finished high school i've been on my own since i was 16 been through it all

05:23:53.340 and with that being said when you get yourself involved i was never into like alcohol i've never

05:23:59.820 been into drugs um none of those things were my vices gambling nothing can we back up just a second

05:24:06.140 in your story um because you you were on your own since you were you're 16 sorry to hear that by the

05:24:11.980 way that's got to suck but thanks you were saying earlier that you think that kids should dismiss their 0.51

05:24:17.500 parents advice but if your parents weren't in your life when you were that young wouldn't you have 0.92

05:24:22.700 preferred to have had them around to get their advice no because my parents were both reckless

05:24:27.580 people my mother my mother didn't give us any kind of structure she didn't give us any kind of rules 1.00

05:24:34.700 if i was going based off of her actions and things that she was doing um then i i would have just ended 0.90

05:24:40.060 up just like her and yeah sure but i mean surely you understand that most parents don't do that they're

05:24:47.020 not they they love their children they definitely don't let them move out of the house when they're 16 years

05:24:51.740 old and do all this right i mean yeah you're i in a in a perfect world you're absolutely right

05:24:56.940 but when i mean that's most people most people's parents i think genuinely care about them

05:25:02.860 okay sure you don't think so that's not my that's not been my personal experience so i can't say for

05:25:09.340 everybody else i know a lot of other people who've had similar experiences to mine where their parents

05:25:13.740 weren't necessarily giving them structure and rules and kind of guidelines in life so everyone's journey is

05:25:20.380 different you know yeah i mean i agree with that and i was being a little bit more sarcastic

05:25:24.780 not necessarily you know yeah if you're if but if you're um if you're raising a two-parent household

05:25:31.100 generally speaking the outcomes are the things that you might consider good outcomes like you would

05:25:35.740 higher education more stability um you know less promiscuity things like this uh those are generally

05:25:43.020 considered to be decent outcomes i would say then they tend to go up astronomically if you have two

05:25:48.460 parents in the household for the entirety of the child being in the household so i mean it seems

05:25:53.100 like that's a an optimal way to go right i would say it's also nurture versus nature because your

05:25:59.180 environment and where you live and where you grow up also have a huge impact on that i i've i've found

05:26:05.340 in my personal experience that a lot of people from like bigger cities and like new york i'm from new

05:26:11.740 york originally people more in the city are going to have a completely different type of lifestyle than

05:26:17.020 someone who grows up in montana or colorado even i feel like more of the core like traditional

05:26:22.780 values are still in the midwest people attribute a lot more of that in the middle as a i think there's

05:26:29.180 a lot more lawlessness even in those liberal progressive cities um having a two-parent household

05:26:35.820 still is going to lead to what are generally considered outcomes for children i didn't i didn't

05:26:40.220 have the benefit of having that i mean i always grew up in a one yeah i understand you didn't but

05:26:45.420 why would you prescribe to others not to listen to their parents if their outcomes seem to be so

05:26:49.900 much better if they do i was i was around i mean she's a comedian i'm a comedian i'm a stand-up comic 0.73

05:26:54.300 so okay so you said you were a sex addict i'd like to get that's why women shouldn't be comedians 1.00

05:26:59.900 no i'm kidding i'm joking that's all right i like you andrew you're all right i'm a pretty i'm a likable 0.77

05:27:06.620 guy so you said you were a sex addict i'd like a little more scope on that so uh when you what does that

05:27:15.180 look like for you a sex addict was someone who was reckless in in promiscuity you know what i mean 0.90

05:27:22.140 like i sleep with the first person who was into me if i was into them obviously like i had my choice

05:27:27.820 in who i wanted to sleep with or to even engage in any kind of sexual activity because body count

05:27:33.100 doesn't necessarily mean penetration for all of them obviously but um with that being said i would i would

05:27:39.820 use sex as my coping mechanism if i was sad if i was depressed if i was angry if i was happy sex was

05:27:46.700 my go-to thing to release that to in height to heighten that like if i had a good show or something 0.99

05:27:53.100 i'm gonna go fuck somebody because it was a good show if i was depressed about a show i'd go fuck 0.99

05:27:57.100 somebody to make myself feel better that's what that looks so let's say in a day what's the most 1.00

05:28:03.740 amount of people you had sex with in a day that's a dirty that's a dirty dirty question um i don't 0.98

05:28:11.340 know a couple maybe two three what about in like a week what's the most in a week oh man i don't know 0.89

05:28:19.740 if i if i remember that this was way back in like 2002 2003 give us a range um in a week i don't know

05:28:27.500 could be anywhere between five and ten in a week five and ten okay what about in a month

05:28:34.940 well if we're if we're taking if we're taking um the most in a month the most in a month

05:28:42.860 maybe 15. okay in a month all right i was just trying to get a scope or a sense of

05:28:48.380 the uh extent of the sex addiction you said that uh if you're a woman under the age of 33 chances are

05:28:56.780 you will think i'm a monster i can't stand the hypocrisy that defined a lot of women 1.00

05:29:00.940 under the age 25 they want the world on the silver platter but bring absolutely nothing to the 0.97

05:29:05.500 table ask any woman under 25 what she wants in life or from a man and you will find yourself a 0.99

05:29:10.460 silent woman your words yeah absolutely my words and i stand right by them because if you ask a lot

05:29:16.860 of women under the age of 20 what do you want out of life they're gonna be deer in headlights 1.00

05:29:22.140 and and and it's i i'm no different i was the same i didn't know i didn't know what i wanted out of

05:29:30.300 life i didn't know what i wanted out of a life partner i didn't know what i wanted out of my career

05:29:34.860 i wasn't i was unsure of these things because i wasn't fully developed most of us are not fully

05:29:40.060 developed until after 25 26 we haven't figured out yet you said that you're tired of women who have a 1.00

05:29:45.820 victim mentality and white women tears yes what do you mean by white women tears white women tears

05:29:52.220 the only reason why i use that is because that's synonymous with what the verbiage online and what

05:29:56.860 young people are using white women tears being women who victimize themselves over nothing example

05:30:02.380 the girl who cried that's white women tears she's in there crying because you asked her a 1.00

05:30:07.820 fucking quiet you asked her a simple question define misogyny and she was just like 1.00

05:30:15.660 like she was attacked she's the main victim yeah she acted she straight up acted like ryan 0.99

05:30:21.020 sexually assaulted her say it it's how you said it that's what matters repeat that i said she acted 1.00

05:30:27.980 as if you sexually assaulted her that's that's the look and the fear in her eyes in that that 10 second 0.99

05:30:34.940 clip that i watched that's the look that she if you had given her the opportunity to go to the 0.98

05:30:39.500 cops to report yeah she probably would have you know and said he made me feel unsafe i didn't feel 1.00

05:30:44.780 safe around him because he asked me a question speaking of this i've actually never revealed this on the

05:30:50.300 show you should have seen the text messages she sent me afterwards oh i want to oh my you mean dms why

05:30:59.020 did she why did you give her your number oh i mean it was uh like you know the messages okay like

05:31:04.300 we do uh through instagram and got it but yeah no she sent messages after the show like nick actually

05:31:10.220 i think i showed them to nick i showed them to maddie and she was being ridiculous did they sound like

05:31:14.860 this you attacked me you made me feel uncomfortable and you humiliated me and you made me feel like

05:31:22.380 i wasn't important and i and my opinion doesn't matter yes he you're right those are usually my dms

05:31:29.020 not not brian but yeah she she was uh that's great yeah she i'm trying to she wanted us to take the

05:31:41.180 video down but then she also demanded well okay that's why women do uh so anyways you said you're 1.00

05:31:48.620 completely against marriage before 30 and procreation in general i'm sure andrew has some thoughts on this

05:31:54.380 although just for the sake of time we can't linger too long but so you're against marriage

05:31:58.700 before 30 right and you're against procreation so having kids i am and i would say that's more

05:32:06.220 that opinion is more reserved for this generation for the new generation or like you know the

05:32:12.140 zillennials or whatever you want to call gen gen z um and the only reason why i say that is because

05:32:18.460 are you okay i'm okay you're okay i got like tanya harding oh okay i'm good yeah all right um

05:32:25.820 you okay you sure yeah thank you i i i don't i don't like where we're headed as a society with with

05:32:36.220 all this like the the best word i can use is the snowflake mentality like comedy is gone you know we

05:32:44.540 can't be funny anymore comedians have a hard time being able to get up on stage and make fun of 0.81

05:32:49.660 shit that everyone can relate to without the fear of being canceled resorted to those like 0.92

05:32:54.220 exactly deprecation jokes because you're only allowed to talk about like don't you think that 1.00

05:32:59.340 a lot of that is because female comedians only know how to talk about their vagina and that's it 1.00

05:33:04.300 i mean i do have a problem with that but i'm not one i mean that's like that's like 99 of female 0.99

05:33:09.740 comedians all they do that's not on stage and talk about their vagina no it's fair they're 0.96

05:33:14.220 they're pretty bad they're pretty not funny and they pretty much talk exclusively about 0.98

05:33:18.860 their vagina it's very very odd it's a very odd phenomenon i actually didn't believe that until 1.00

05:33:23.740 i went through netflix and started watching female comedians i was like really that's all they talk 0.97

05:33:27.980 about all right well i you haven't heard any of my stuff so you know to be fair yeah yeah yeah sure

05:33:34.380 but that's fair i mean yeah you're not wrong there are a lot of women who get up on stage and all 1.00

05:33:39.740 they talk about is sex and you know how they get men to fuck them and whatnot it's because that's all 1.00

05:33:45.260 they can relate to that's all they that's how a lot of them are relating to as far as what they 0.98

05:33:49.580 think is funny or what they find yeah but they also need to the entire comedy industry what's that

05:33:54.620 all these female comics went through and me to the entire industry they meet to everybody 1.00

05:33:59.660 i mean so i mean comedians how in the hell did louis ck get canceled they did they went through and me to

05:34:06.140 the whole comic industry there was there was a bunch of female comics who were going around going 1.00

05:34:10.780 oh i was sexually harassed by this guy and this dude jerked off in front of me after i consented 0.84

05:34:15.740 but blah blah blah blah blah right that's after i consented that's the asked them that's the 1.00

05:34:20.460 shit that's the shit that bothers me and that that goes back to what i was talking about the victim 1.00

05:34:24.700 mentality how are you so women ruin comedy is what i'm saying they ruined it they're the tone policers 1.00

05:34:29.980 they're the ones who get offended they're the ones who are always whining about everything they're

05:34:33.260 always crying it's only the women they can't take a joke nothing's ever funny everyone's always a 0.99

05:34:38.380 victim yeah thank you that broad statements saying men do this and women do that it's just like

05:34:43.020 diversity i love bill burr yeah diversity see what i mean that's the whole point right the whole point

05:34:49.500 of why it is that women get so offended you can't even have a conversation about general topics with 1.00

05:34:55.980 them no it's about diversity it's about inclusion it's about us being friends and holding 0.99

05:35:00.700 fucking hands and saying kumbaya it's not about any of that that's like jokes are supposed to be 0.97

05:35:05.020 funny because they're a reflection of the truth of reality of society that's what makes them 0.99

05:35:09.180 hilarious women destroyed all of that they destroyed it sick of time i've got to move things on uh going

05:35:15.740 to my notes here for bobby you uh okay you've been doing of for four years part-time cam girl gaming

05:35:22.140 streamer for two former traveling stripper from when you were 18 to 2020 uh you are in an open

05:35:31.740 relationship now for three years on twitter are you you claim to be married well you see i'm like you

05:35:41.420 where i don't want to like get legally married but in my heart i'm married and like that's just me i don't 0.98

05:35:47.820 want like because i'm not religious and i'm also not into the government being in my shit like you 0.96

05:35:53.500 know so i i say i'm married because i have so much faith in my relationship and i think that it will 0.92

05:36:00.940 last forever so i might as well just go ahead and start saying that he's my husband is it a common law

05:36:06.540 marriage uh well we've only we lived together we moved in immediately um and things have been good like

05:36:15.340 we literally hardly ever have any kind of fights and when we do we have good well how long let's let

05:36:22.460 me try again that's a different way how long have you been with this guy only three years that's what

05:36:26.380 he said not so not common law because i think that's seven it depends on where you're at i don't know

05:36:31.180 together i think it's different in every different state so i have no idea yeah you said that you don't

05:36:36.700 identify actually do we show that i don't think andrew's here he would very much andrew would very much

05:36:43.100 like to know the status of the armpit hair oh it's alive and well but like it's it's not like i

05:36:51.500 always have armpit hair i do shave sometimes just like you know down there i grew a bit differently

05:36:55.980 can you show andrew there's a little bit of uh toilet paper particles from me like wiping nice

05:37:02.060 like sweat in the bathroom nice and uh that's your thing you have the there's a couple photos on your

05:37:08.700 instagram you got the armpit hair i thought andrew should know i thought just so he has a better

05:37:14.220 understanding of the dynamics going on here uh there it is what's the dynamic what is that armpit

05:37:20.860 hair well it's kind of well you know like uh you got the armpit hair and the blue hair we might

05:37:25.820 or purple hair whatever color it is you know we might draw some conclusions maybe perhaps you're one

05:37:29.900 of the free bleeders you know what i mean like we it there's kind of a stereotype that goes with the

05:37:35.900 women who have the colored hair and armpit hair that's kind of raging raging feminist 1.00

05:37:41.580 i absolutely love she smells like patchouli she loves me i don't smell like patchouli don't you ever

05:37:47.420 say that about me not since i was like 20 okay but i used to love patchouli now you do say you don't

05:37:56.220 identify as a feminist you do believe but you do believe in having equal rights you have no real

05:38:01.420 issue with patriarchy or more traditional roles men are supposed to lead and protect what you

05:38:06.700 dislike is misogyny sexism and the who is more oppressed or who is the victim pissing contest

05:38:12.220 it's comparing apples to oranges well i'll play that game men are more oppressed than women but

05:38:17.500 i don't really feel inclined to go into it but just throwing that out there anyways argument but i

05:38:23.420 you know i will go into it if you want but well if maybe later let me get through the notes i've you

05:38:29.260 have a really bad date experience uh for your first traditional dinner date oh wait you don't

05:38:35.260 want to go there okay uh uh okay you said you didn't want to go there in the notes so we won't go there

05:38:41.660 you don't think gender roles and patriarchal relationships are for everyone there's definitely 0.98

05:38:45.740 more submissive and emotional men more dominant grounded women who are ideal for those men those

05:38:50.700 households tend to be more matriarchal doesn't make it any less balanced it's just different from what 1.00

05:38:55.340 most people are used to take the parents from the dancing for the devil documentary for i it's a

05:39:01.500 new documentary about like yeah i saw a little bit of that um the father is very emotional not

05:39:06.300 very dominant mother is very sharp and intense and dominant but they seem very healthy and happy

05:39:10.780 together and raised very intelligent successful kids their kids are thriving i mean one of them

05:39:15.260 might be in a cult but like a lot of people can be in a cult and sometimes it's a fake cult because

05:39:21.340 it gets them money like okay i was in a fake cult before because it was financially beneficial to

05:39:27.100 the community but you were in a fake cult i only watched the yeah i only watched the first episode

05:39:32.860 of that so i don't know it may you were you were you were in a cult a fake one what does that mean

05:39:37.980 what's a fake cult in hawaii i um i just went to hawaii started walking down the road i had like no

05:39:46.140 knowledge and i come across a i come across like a hippie commune like a hippie commune and they're

05:39:55.020 like cool with nudity and stuff i'm sorry and the guy who owns it his name is actually jesus it's not

05:40:02.300 actually jesus it's eugene but we call him jesus and we had you know we kind of like put on a show for

05:40:08.620 our people that come to like visit the commune and try to make it seem like super weird just because

05:40:15.420 it's fun and because it got to manipulate people to to join yeah like the discovery channel and

05:40:20.780 shit like came out and would all right check it out just because they thought it was the discovery

05:40:26.300 channel came out to check out your larping cult yeah we basically were larping as a cult so yeah 0.99

05:40:33.900 i mean uh in your other in your other notes you said bowing is playful and kinky as long as the

05:40:39.020 context is but if there's a bad bad power dynamic and expectation that she's actually your property slave

05:40:45.420 no uh so obviously you have some objections to my uh preference for wanting a woman to bow

05:40:52.380 depends on the context that's what what's the what's the context what's the context for you

05:40:56.380 because i don't know i just it's cool i guess yeah yeah i would bow and i mean as long as it's like

05:41:03.580 playful and kinky like i said i think it's fun and i would say that's that's my frame for it it's just a

05:41:10.940 playful endearing it doesn't yeah it doesn't mean that much i don't i don't think it means that much

05:41:17.180 what means more is how you treat her and if you really do see her as like someone who's like really

05:41:24.460 below you who's your slave or your kind of like what your friend kind of like what your friend did

05:41:30.380 to both of us did it oh both of you did it he was sending he asked us to and yeah i only did it

05:41:36.380 once i was like the same for me really honestly and so like you made him like do chores for you

05:41:41.500 work for you for free i couldn't even get him to do that because like i'm i'm just not that dumb

05:41:46.620 can i can i couldn't even ask like he never paid me because i didn't ask yeah but i never got

05:41:50.700 can i tell them what you made him do yeah go ahead tell us do it do it she like walked him through the

05:41:56.140 mall and made him drink his own come out of a cup huh wait in the mall yeah i thought that was more

05:42:00.860 fun wow wait that's fine wait wait hold on you see that now let me actually make it let me actually

05:42:07.020 make a criticism here while you two were consenting to that all the other people in the mall were not

05:42:13.100 consenting though yeah they didn't know what it was yeah but you walked him through the mall so 0.94

05:42:18.620 you're doing some like bdsm shit publicly those people are not it's these people who like do that 0.99

05:42:24.700 dog shit like the walking the dogs in public there's a weird like the people in public are not 0.99

05:42:30.540 consenting to that shit yeah let me clarify i don't actually and i think the bdsm that i can i think 1.00

05:42:35.980 the bdsm community looks down on people that do that shit in public yeah they do because it's not 0.99

05:42:42.220 consent right because these people in public don't want to see that you reiterate that this 0.98

05:42:46.780 was can we just clarify real quick i just want to make sure that i heard that right you made a guy

05:42:54.460 walk through a mall and drink his sperm yeah and then i also made him uh try on some panties and then 0.93

05:43:01.020 go to the checkout and buy his own panties and just to be clear you have an issue with me wanting a 0.97

05:43:05.260 woman to bow yeah when we're talking about the slavery morality of the slavery and ownership of 0.87

05:43:11.100 the person that's really the problematic part these girls i agree i totally agree and i was dumb of me

05:43:17.900 to do that i literally only did it once that's fine you know it's not like somebody once just one

05:43:25.820 time there's no big deal it was actually funny we had that you might have traumatized a bunch of

05:43:30.860 children you know that right uh well they didn't like they really didn't see it they didn't know

05:43:36.460 they didn't see a guy crawling on the floor no no that's different i was the one crawling in that

05:43:40.380 other scenario but that was a different person that i was with doing the leash thing different

05:43:45.180 do you have any do you actually regret doing it to him do i regret doing it too i mean i didn't

05:43:50.540 necessarily like it's not my kink but i don't kink shame i'll try most things once if it sounds

05:43:57.980 interesting and i was like he wanted you to do that yes he approached both of us with this

05:44:02.940 proposition for me he cleaned my house and chastity and stuff and she made him so they both were involved

05:44:09.100 in uh essentially like this guy was a slave to them basically he'd be getting off to this

05:44:15.660 there was no he loved it yeah like he proposed the idea are you guys into like cleave cleveland steamers

05:44:22.060 and stuff what is that okay i mean isn't that basically taking advantage of somebody who's clearly

05:44:27.420 mentally ill i mean he's oh was he mentally ill i mean he's coherent come on let's not kid ourselves

05:44:39.500 um i don't know he's pretty normal actually i think he agrees with most of your takes really

05:44:44.780 just well he believes like he wouldn't agree with any of our takes i promise he does no guy well if he

05:44:51.340 does then the thing is is that he's larping what's the real him i think both things the guy who agrees

05:44:57.100 with christian conservatism or the guy who walks through a mall drinking his own sperm which which

05:45:01.500 is the real guy he's not religious he just holds a lot of i guess religious principles like he thinks

05:45:06.700 traditional gender roles are good he thinks it's okay to date much younger women he thinks he thinks

05:45:11.420 true what what i guess not for himself what of the dynamic that you

05:45:16.780 explained earlier has anything to do with traditional you can support it for society but

05:45:22.780 not for yourself you know i mean you don't think that a guy who requests that you do that is

05:45:29.100 mentally ill you don't think i mean he's definitely ill throat but like he's a functional member of

05:45:33.100 society for the most part like i've definitely seen more throat people bad about it either

05:45:40.060 it's interesting the women the women object to the bow thing but like they they would absolutely 1.00

05:45:46.620 like we've had girls who come on the show who are who do finndom uh who's basically financial

05:45:52.060 abuse and um they basically bankrupt men but somehow i'm the bad guy because i want a woman to bow 0.92

05:45:59.980 no i don't think she was saying it was bad she even said she'd do it she's just saying as long as you

05:46:03.980 don't really view them as like less than human and beneath you view them as a property that is less than

05:46:11.500 you or like a slave do you want a submissive woman or do you want a brat in what context i do not like 0.64

05:46:17.900 brats at all i don't believe you what's i like to argue a lot well a brat is like trust me they're 0.89

05:46:24.140 like submissive but they're gonna fight back a little bit and like make you yeah it's like a sub thing of 0.91

05:46:30.860 bdsm yeah so you don't mean like in the commons if you call a you know somebody a brat means you're

05:46:36.060 you're acting spoiled rotten you know something like that so it doesn't mean that it's some other 0.96

05:46:41.820 kink some other kink bullshit sort of i mean okay yeah it's kink bullshit okay but they act 1.00

05:46:48.620 that way to answer your question i don't want to brad i don't you just want like a fully submissive 0.99

05:46:53.660 fully fully submissive yeah what what camps ethan what are you talking about i mean

05:46:59.580 i'll read this uh i'll read it while it's up ethan knight much love actually maddie can you read it

05:47:05.980 much love and appreciation to the good intentions of your podcast brian and andrew effing wilson who is

05:47:11.500 always the best on the show some of these women though would not have survived the camps thank you

05:47:17.180 ethan can you hide it and then read this one number one rule to kink you don't expose non-consenting

05:47:23.180 people to kink stop backpedaling with reasons why it's not so bad you basically essayed everyone

05:47:29.340 who was around they didn't know doesn't excuse right mine was in private just by the way mine was at

05:47:34.060 my house okay that's fine uh ethan thank you for that super chat man really appreciate it uh i think

05:47:39.180 that's my first time seeing you uh sending a super so appreciate your patronage man there's rules

05:47:43.900 the king like what there's rules the name of degeneracy is this i don't do this stuff

05:47:50.060 anymore figure this out i was never into you have consent forms for yes you were there's a

05:47:54.220 there's a book what's wrong with you andrew like you didn't know there's a book me to do that

05:47:58.140 shit there's a book okay so you had a man in the chase 101 yeah like i experimented with it 0.90

05:48:03.900 it's in the college thesis but like we weren't hooking up or anything and i would never be a 0.98

05:48:07.180 degenerate scumbag 101 uh anyways uh let's see you said how could uh wait hold on there's an honors course

05:48:17.820 two say is you know a lot of men like to it's mostly men who get those like plugs that are 0.86

05:48:24.300 like remote controlled and like wear them around in stores and stuff girls don't do that like as 1.00

05:48:30.220 much as men they're really into like wearing butt plugs in public and stuff i well that's what my 0.99

05:48:35.820 subs like tell me you know yeah they're degenerate they're fucking degenerate a lot of them are also 1.00

05:48:42.220 married i live in west hollywood she's not married too they got a beard yeah their wives are just so 1.00

05:48:47.660 high their wife is a beard their wife is a beard those guys are probably they're probably they're

05:48:53.820 hanging out west hollywood they're hanging out i personally don't judge anyone's kink me neither but 0.90

05:48:58.700 i'm not i don't walk them through walls and make them wear panties and drink sperm i'm sure you don't 1.00

05:49:05.820 judge anybody's kink yeah that would be a pretty precarious branch to stand on would you 0.98

05:49:12.940 did he pay you no i didn't ever ask for money that's the thing because i couldn't

05:49:17.020 ask him for anything like to because i'm also very subby i don't want to

05:49:21.740 yeah it's hard for me to even ask my subs whenever i like need money i'm just like so 0.63

05:49:27.820 sort of okay you said you've been the main provider in all your relationships it's not

05:49:32.780 a preference i've just yet to connect with anyone who makes good money not a problem but unfortunately

05:49:38.140 i've been used a lot so now i have this fear of ulterior motives much like men do with women my

05:49:42.940 recent ex fiancee kinda had you paying student loans truck payments truck and motorcycle mods regular and 0.96

05:49:51.100 wilderness emt courses firefighter training general credit card debt etc and yeah he also runs a scam

05:50:01.100 on the internet under a fake name he's literally a serial scammer so you're sugar mama boy you picked 0.82

05:50:07.180 you picked the good one hey this was like the first guy that i dated who he was really just good at

05:50:13.420 faking he had this mask but you know because i have a very degenerate past he was the first good guy

05:50:19.820 the one that i thought like i was doing the right thing like my parents would approve of this come

05:50:24.380 to find out after where they were like i always got a bad vibe about him but i was naive i was like oh

05:50:29.580 this is see why you're supposed to listen to your parents do you see why you're supposed to tell me

05:50:33.980 until after because they that's why they didn't want to give but they didn't give her the information

05:50:38.620 until after she broke up with them so it's a moot point they should have though they should have but you

05:50:43.340 would have told her to ignore it you would have said ignore the advice so yeah so that's on you

05:50:48.780 how else way how else are you going to become a good human being until you learn how to not be

05:50:54.780 your ethics your morals and even your mannerisms from your parents your your genetic copy essentially

05:51:01.020 of your mom and your dad so the nature that they are is probably going to at least trickle down to you

05:51:06.140 somewhat so if they have good ethics or good morals or they're pillars of the community or things like

05:51:11.260 that i would think that you would want kids to listen to them that seems wise like if they were

05:51:17.260 if they're successful at least in such to some degree now i would judge success as being something

05:51:21.820 as basic as um you know they go to work every day and they uh they get by and but they love you that

05:51:27.500 seems like success to me that seems like uh it's something that most people can at least emulate to a

05:51:32.380 degree if i'm gonna play the devil's advocate though if i were gonna listen or if most people listen to

05:51:37.820 their parents you wouldn't see a lot of the comedians who are comedians be comedians or actors

05:51:42.860 be actors because those are frivolous jobs you know so there's things like that yeah but this isn't a

05:51:48.540 1980s movie come on where they're like right where they're like no you you know i don't want i want you 0.98

05:51:55.900 to go to a business school instead of an art school that's like that was all phony baloney shit anyway

05:52:01.260 that was all deconstructing society in the 80s anyway due to punk rock culture most of the time 0.93

05:52:07.500 if you want to go to a good art school your parents aren't like no that's not that's just not really

05:52:12.540 how it works in reality honestly they might give you advice to the contrary meatball donated 200

05:52:19.340 yikes stay away from bum's purple abuela you can't keep saying people should not listen to parents when 0.99

05:52:26.540 you are exhibit a as to why people should i'm not going to dispute that but i'm not an abuela stupid 0.99

05:52:34.220 what's a well abuela is grandma i'm not a grandma oh okay oh he was like oh she doesn't even know 1.00

05:52:40.140 oh she called you a dumb fuck i did shots fired um name ten books going back to you 0.99

05:52:48.860 uh so this guy who you paid all this i'm a christian conservative we can't read 1.00

05:52:52.780 uh meanwhile he shamed you for how you made money and he ended up cheating on you with a nurse

05:53:01.180 and got the clap oh yes sir yes sir this is true well i was stripping back then and then

05:53:09.340 after the thing that i can't mention i started doing only fans and yeah he did not like that i was a

05:53:17.420 stripper but he benefited from it and he used the fact that it was a degenerate thing and like

05:53:24.700 he didn't like it and i'm just a strumpet to be like manipulating me to feel like she watches the

05:53:30.940 show she likes the show he manipulated me with you know just shaming me for what i do into making up for

05:53:39.900 it by giving him all my money and i literally left that relationship with nothing i mean like

05:53:45.500 like i feel like i kind of i side with you on this one because like he can't be all

05:53:52.300 bitching about your job while you're paying for all his that part like he needs to like pay for his 0.94

05:53:58.460 shit or like and then he i'm gonna have to take a disagreement with brian on this one so i'm like 0.98

05:54:05.340 okay i think he can i think that even if uh he's not working and you're supporting him he can still 0.99

05:54:13.500 bitch if you're a sex worker i think that that's fine like i don't i don't actually have any 1.00

05:54:17.500 objection to that i mean he can just well he shouldn't well my my view is he just shouldn't 0.99

05:54:21.820 have dated her i mean yeah if he didn't like it like if if i'm assuming from it until he didn't

05:54:26.780 need me like he watched the julio roberts movie okay pretty woman he thought he could turn him out

05:54:32.380 right so he bitched about it a little bit that seems reasonable right seems reasonable like why

05:54:38.460 can't he why can't you why can't you say you know i still would like you to not do that well it wasn't

05:54:43.900 even a moral thing because he was also very promiscuous um like while you were while you guys were

05:54:52.060 together he was cheating but we had an open relationship yeah but you didn't know he was

05:54:56.140 cheating right this was like probably the most open relationship he had no reason to cheat

05:55:00.300 she literally shared him all the time you didn't know he was cheating right um i had a i had a

05:55:08.220 suspicion because there were some things that were like little signs and you know but you didn't but

05:55:13.820 you didn't know and if you knew he was cheating you would have ended the convo or that not the convo

05:55:18.380 the relationship so you can't say well he was promiscuous he didn't know he was but there was no

05:55:24.060 like you know because we're supposed to talk to each other and be like let them know about our

05:55:28.940 partners like if i had a partner he knew about him if i was even just in a talking stage like

05:55:33.740 talking on tinder with somebody i would be like hey i met this new guy who i kind of vibe with

05:55:37.900 but he just did not tell me about this particular one at all and really denied it but i knew that

05:55:44.300 there was something going on because is this one of those weird things where you like okay hang on i

05:55:50.700 gotta ask this is one of those weird things where you're like we have the ground rules where as long

05:55:55.500 as we just tell each other who we're boning then it's okay it's one of those things but oh you

05:55:59.820 didn't tell me so you cheated is it one of those yeah it's about communication and honesty and like

05:56:05.900 obviously if there were somebody that we didn't feel comfortable with and we brought that up we would

05:56:13.820 but this is why you're a sex worker right why why this relationship or this whole thing i've been a sex 0.90

05:56:20.300 worker since i was 19. but that's that's that's where the hypocrisy comes in it's like you can't

05:56:26.620 really expect him to just be monogamous if you're a sex worker well we weren't monogamous that's the

05:56:33.820 thing is that's another reason why like that he used to basically but that includes telling you

05:56:41.500 bad about everything and like been to his every need and pay for everything he wanted and i think 0.99

05:56:46.860 your ex was a bitch and then you finally figured that out and i didn't left his ass i didn't leave 1.00

05:56:52.380 him because of the cheating either i didn't leave him because of the cheating because i don't give a 1.00

05:56:56.780 fuck i didn't give a shit she doesn't give a fuck i really don't care about the cheating i just thought 1.00

05:57:02.460 it was funny to bring up because she was a nurse and gave him and i chlamydia oh you got the clap too 1.00

05:57:08.380 well i mean i was sucking my boyfriend so unfortunately yeah i'm really happy you're 0.94

05:57:13.500 with this one good now thank you because he gave you he gave you the clap well we were because you 0.95

05:57:22.540 guys were honestly that's the only time i've ever had an std so wow oh no i just many years

05:57:31.660 is that god's way of telling you stop doing that do you think so maybe god being like you

05:57:38.540 know stop just stop just stop you can get sick at the grocery store because someone sneezes on you

05:57:43.900 like stop going to the grocery store like all you have to do is go get a little shot and or take you

05:57:49.500 know you get an hpv vaccine and then you're good like is that the case with hiv huh well i'm not

05:57:56.460 not having that's why i made gary good touch oh i'll continue on with my notes here andrew i don't

05:58:03.500 know if you saw this i just wanted to bring andrew's attention to this nick could you show up

05:58:07.660 the articles about the bear killing andrew andrew's gonna love this one not love you're talking about

05:58:14.380 the uh attacks have been happening in california yeah the woman the first ever black bear fatality

05:58:21.420 in california one was killed it's kind of ironic and uh it's like the timing with with all the 0.98

05:58:27.980 women picking a bear timing is impeccable stupid now uh going on to more notes from you you said 0.98

05:58:33.340 don't hold body count against people even though i've been promiscuous in my past i've become very 0.99

05:58:38.380 choosy of who i'm romantic with now in fact i'd argue that my experience has made me even more secure

05:58:43.820 in my current relationship because i know what i want and don't want well couldn't you know what you 0.99

05:58:49.580 want and don't want in a relationship without fucking hmm what huh well like you mean sexually 0.99

05:58:59.100 or because i mean that's the do you mean sexual i'm still confused about this question well you said 1.00

05:59:06.460 in fact because okay you said don't hold body count against people what i said there i think

05:59:11.580 you're misunderstanding was that i've had a lot of well sexually as well but like just with from

05:59:19.180 person to person their traits their characteristics and all that stuff and like how we connect and

05:59:26.060 just values as well like okay but so you said you'd argue that your experience has made me even more

05:59:31.420 secure in my current relationship because i know what i want and don't want now you've become very

05:59:36.060 choosy of who i'm romantic with now so you said you've had sex between like 50 and 100 people

05:59:41.660 couldn't you like this experience you garnered in terms of what you want and don't want of all the

05:59:46.540 people you've had sex with wouldn't you have gotten the same experience even if you hadn't had 0.90

05:59:52.780 sex with them no well i'm not talking about sexual experience i mean am i maybe i'm misunderstanding

05:59:59.020 what you mean by experience and what you want and don't want so what he's asking the simplified

06:00:06.700 version he's just saying thank you couldn't you have gained the same exact experience experiences

06:00:10.780 with these people absent having sex with them why is the sexy important part of these experiences

06:00:17.660 well because it's i mean in a relationship it's usually well there's a number of things that you

06:00:23.340 would um go outside of a relationship for besides sex um so no it isn't just sex it's also a lot of

06:00:32.140 other things like the way they treat you the way you communicate and all the things but i was doing

06:00:37.660 those things with the other partners that i've had in my life it wasn't just sex so i learned a lot

06:00:43.660 about myself i learned a lot about people and how they treat me and i don't know why it's not reading

06:00:49.020 purple when you ran to the bathroom and started throwing up is it because you smelled your own 0.54

06:00:53.260 rancid pits is that why the tp chris jenner did the blank try up before or after the surgeries roasts

06:00:59.180 i actually inhaled some water name 10 books nicolo thank you nickelodeon appreciate it oh by the way

06:01:05.900 tts is down says forgot to mention we've lowered it to 69 uh if any of you want to get one in before

06:01:11.260 we wrap up the show uh speaking of which let me pull this up anonymous donated 100 dollars

06:01:19.180 number one rule to kink you don't expose all the consenting people we already read this okay my bad 0.92

06:01:24.700 my bad uh all right let's see the last notes here we have you had a tweet and you said tbh i'm a cuck so 1.00

06:01:33.980 i like when my man gets pussy oh wow so you're a cuck queen you're a cuck queen only if it's under the 1.00

06:01:40.780 right communication beforehand and even when not you know it can still be kind of hot it just depends on 0.99

06:01:50.460 like a lot of different variables and if you know it feels but wait so if the girl like for example

06:01:58.780 the girl's hotter than you and he still tells you but he has like a stronger sexual connection with her

06:02:04.460 are you upset are you gonna get it's the girl's hotter and he has a stronger sexual connection

06:02:08.860 yeah um yeah of course it's gonna be a little but why he talks to you but that's but he told you about it 1.00

06:02:15.740 he he gave you he's like hey honey i want to fuck this hotter chick i i like her pussy better than 1.00

06:02:21.820 yours is that okay um sure all right you can't a female can't be a cuckold only men can be cuckolds 1.00

06:02:32.860 there's a term cuck queen 0.92

06:02:36.780 yeah i know that's just but it's that's meaningless right the whole purpose behind the term cuck is that

06:02:43.660 you could unwittingly be raising the offspring that is not yours that's true well for women the 0.98

06:02:49.820 offspring's always going to be theirs you're not unwittingly ever going to be raising offspring which 0.75

06:02:55.100 is not theirs unwittingly that can't so there's just there is no female cuck that's just nonsense 1.00

06:03:00.460 talk right so then what is it is it just a cuck no what is her situation she's a boy oh well any guy 0.98

06:03:09.340 who's with her is so if if a guy is sharing her he's a cuck so right she's a boy yeah she's just uh 0.95

06:03:18.540 you know what you would call a i guess a strumpet right that's that's what you would yeah he would

06:03:24.860 just call it call it that essentially oops uh so hold on we need to do some dating app review nick can 1.00

06:03:33.660 you pull up the dating app reviews uh what's the tweet can you read it to me people are so stupid 0.92

06:03:43.180 uh we'll pull it yeah we can do that really quick i don't know one of you posted this yeah 1.00

06:03:49.180 actually he who does not lick the clit should not get to hit one of you guys tweeted this out 1.00

06:03:54.380 or like reacted to it it looks like a cool party look at all the punks they went crusty i love it 0.99

06:03:58.860 so coming on the table is it a deal breaker for guys not willing to uh go down i've had a guy that

06:04:04.060 did not want to and yeah there was a lot of other things going on there sure i don't prefer it like

06:04:11.420 it's not my favorite it's not my favorite thing so i mean i don't think i'd care that much honestly okay

06:04:16.780 i don't care that much i don't really care uh it's a bit of a deal breaker oh that would be a deal

06:04:23.500 breaker for me i don't know okay i'm yeah i'm indifferent anonymous donated 69 dollars your

06:04:33.660 long-term boyfriend is cheating on you and all his friends know do you expect his friends to tell you

06:04:40.540 brian how about name tags on the mic stands to easily identify guests we've had the suggestion

06:04:47.340 before it's we're not gonna we're not gonna do that but i appreciate it um yeah if that is a

06:04:54.460 scenario i'm supposed to answer i guess um well i think i'm pretty close with their friends they

06:05:00.140 might snitch but they might not um it's a strange question yeah i think they'd probably i'd like to

06:05:10.060 think that they would his friends tell you the chatter is asking if they should should they snitch

06:05:17.740 okay your long-term boyfriend is cheating on you all his friends know you expect his friends to tell

06:05:22.380 you for underscore the underscore patriarchy donated 69 dollars question for the panel would you let your

06:05:29.500 partner go to the strip club if they go for the wings and music uh okay we'll come here we'll do that

06:05:37.260 one then we'll come back to the cheating one so going around the table on this one yeah i don't

06:05:40.940 have a problem with him going to strip club we go together

06:05:46.700 i don't care i don't care no no comment i wouldn't want him to go without me but i took the last guy

06:05:52.300 i dated to the strip club for his first time or was it for the wings and the music uh no no okay yes

06:06:02.380 only for the wings and the music the salad bar yeah right oh gosh oh sometimes the food is good

06:06:10.620 though my husband wouldn't go so but i wouldn't care honestly i wouldn't care if he went yeah would

06:06:15.500 you let him read hustler magazine because they just really like the articles absolutely well that was

06:06:19.500 the cover of me of course so he can borrow mine i mean ideally you'd pick a man that doesn't have

06:06:26.380 an interest in going regardless you can eat wings somewhere else uh and then long-term boyfriend

06:06:32.860 all his friends know do you expect his friends to tell you no no yes it's bro code yeah it's against 0.99

06:06:42.460 but they do tell us sometimes if they're trying to fuck you yeah they'd be snitching okay all right 0.99

06:06:48.060 bros before bros before hose okay um they'll tell you if they're trying to smash them next exactly 0.99

06:07:00.700 wait which one is this is this zoomed out smash smash or pass

06:07:08.220 oh she's like facebook dating hard smash 0.73

06:07:11.900 uh i think you got to zoom can you zoom it out and show me please

06:07:15.180 yeah or is that the tick tock sound oh yeah that okay well i have it on the next one

06:07:21.980 what do you mean but that we need to okay that's fun uh can you read this one alissa just read your

06:07:30.780 based i value intellect and communication above all i typically won't engage in small talk but if you

06:07:36.620 want to talk space travel psychology philosophy etc i'll probably bite i have kids and i'm open to

06:07:41.660 having more um my insta something like clementine oh and my love language is acts of service so if

06:07:47.420 you're lazy or don't have your life together we won't vibe and then i said looking for a man in 0.63

06:07:52.140 tech green eyes trust fund six plus and then i said it's a tick tock reference totally not serious lol

06:07:59.180 yeah it's just a funny reference your love language is acts of service yeah my confusion with the act

06:08:04.860 with the love languages is does it mean what you want yeah or how you express

06:08:12.620 it can be but most of the time it's in reference to what you expect men tend to be physical touch

06:08:18.860 or acts of service or actually maybe men are more like physical touch and words of affirmation i think

06:08:25.180 um acts of service is where and i just put that because the last guy that i was that i interacted with

06:08:31.500 was super lazy and like i take care of two toddlers alone keep a spotless house cook works multiple 1.00

06:08:37.420 jobs so i'm very driven i cannot carry like i just feel like as a man you're probably like a bum if you 0.91

06:08:44.860 can sit there and watch someone that you claim to care about struggling and you're not naturally

06:08:49.100 inclined to help because i would never watch a man go through it and not you know have the empathy to

06:08:56.620 to help him like i would take it upon myself like the vast majority of women i don't i'm not the vast

06:09:02.140 majority of women so i can't speak for them but oh wait so you wouldn't what clean up after your 1.00

06:09:07.580 toddlers yes yeah no no no no no no no like okay like one day um my air conditioner like i needed more

06:09:16.140 freon i needed to charge my air conditioner in the car and like i you're not useful to me as a man if

06:09:22.220 i'm doing that and taking care of kids and cooking and cleaning like that's something you should be

06:09:25.660 doing i feel i support gender roles i'm totally fine keeping a clean house looking hot for you

06:09:31.500 bearing babies i don't think every relationship should be like that but i tend to prefer

06:09:36.060 that the you know the more biblical type of thing um so like if you don't have a job

06:09:41.900 and you're not driven you don't have any goals or aspirations and you're just lazy and you just sit

06:09:46.860 around and do nothing that's not attractive to me you didn't have a job

06:09:50.140 no not really i can't like disclose too much because then it'll be obvious who i'm talking

06:09:56.780 about um so didn't you choose him no no once i realized that he was like that i was like this is

06:10:05.340 not going to work out okay the example of why he was lazy is because you can recharge your ac with

06:10:13.100 bucky larson donated seventy dollars purple hair girl catching an std is not appealing please stop

06:10:20.780 being a strumpet question for the ladies if a man is the provider in a marriage relationship 0.97

06:10:26.860 is he the prize sure we'll go around the table on this go ahead hell yeah yeah i think so

06:10:36.940 i don't know yes

06:10:39.900 yeah i'd say so yeah assuming he's like good to you otherwise as well 0.99

06:10:46.300 like because you can be a provider and be a piece of shit and then i'm still going to divorce you over 1.00

06:10:50.140 your head or anything like to do crazy stuff is he the prize that's the question i don't i think we 1.00

06:10:56.700 could both be the prize but uh was there another tab on the dating one from her or is that the only

06:11:04.700 thing the whole lazy guy thing yeah and like you have like my main thing is that you have to be

06:11:11.180 intellectually stimulating for me wait so what do you want in a guy i want someone who's intelligent

06:11:17.500 and like i don't expect anybody to take care of me but i don't want to have to take care of them

06:11:20.940 either okay but mostly i want someone who's like i love to debate and i like somebody to teach me

06:11:27.900 things and like i want to i want who i'm around to be better than me so that i want to grow like

06:11:32.620 debate with your partner i mean not all the time but yeah yeah that's fun stuff yeah i just love to

06:11:39.180 explore not necessarily debate but i like to explore intellectual topics together yeah why why

06:11:46.460 even if you don't have a disagreement you can just hold on stop go ahead you said you don't like

06:11:51.580 when people debate with you i mean we know it's obvious just saying what

06:11:59.900 what the spicy thing that you were gonna say what spicy thing i don't know it's spicy

06:12:06.220 tech underscore peach underscore eater donated 69 dollars six feet one inch in tech six figures

06:12:13.340 skateboarder i eat peaches on the first date and you are banging oh my god well i don't sleep with 1.00

06:12:19.580 anybody on a first date but um get tested and if you know you've never have you ever had a one night

06:12:24.620 stand yes once have you ever have you ever slept with somebody on a first date but continued seeing

06:12:32.140 them yes but this is all prior to becoming a christian too what denomination again i mean i know

06:12:38.620 y'all push for this i mean i just i you could say protestant i guess but yeah really i just i just

06:12:44.060 like read like i interpret the bible wait so are you waiting until marriage to have sex 0.56

06:12:52.140 no well so what why hold on i'm not saying that i'm a perfect christian and that i uphold all the

06:12:57.740 values but why hold on hold on if the reason you no longer sleep with someone on the first date

06:13:03.980 the justification the pretext is you citing to christian values sure but if you look at the

06:13:10.540 ultimate hold on wouldn't the ultimate manifestation of that be waiting until marriage sure but if you

06:13:16.780 look at the context of marriage within biblical times they weren't like having a court officiate

06:13:21.420 a wedding you know what i mean yeah the church did is the church officiating your wedding

06:13:25.180 i don't know like i wouldn't actually be opposed to waiting why you shouldn't debate you're bad at

06:13:33.100 it so you have a guy who's good you know probably a lot worse at debate honestly

06:13:41.260 i try to uphold as many of them as i can but you know i'm not going to be perfect at it there's

06:13:45.740 i don't think anybody can pretend to be yeah but perfection is not the point of christianity or

06:13:51.340 christian ethics if you're talking about christian ethics though if you're trying to uphold not being

06:13:55.740 promiscuous because you think that's a part of divine command then just not sleeping with a guy

06:14:00.700 in the first date really doesn't have anything to do with it it's basically skirting the whole point

06:14:05.260 of what that divine command is isn't it sure yeah i mean it's not the only reason i don't sleep with

06:14:11.020 someone on the first date but i do try that's what you cited to i do try that's what yeah that's what

06:14:15.820 you appealed to though was your christian ethics okay fair now it's like okay by the third date

06:14:21.020 then we'll sleep together and it's like okay but that kind of defeats the whole point of people

06:14:24.860 randomly like i just once we're in a monogamous commitment really i guess that's yeah how long

06:14:30.380 does that typically take i mean it can vary months it can vary like you're really telling me that

06:14:38.860 the last guy you had sex with was it were you guys in a monogamous yeah we agreed from the very

06:14:43.260 beginning that if we sleep with other people we're gonna tell each other big smoke donated 69 0.99

06:14:47.980 dollars mommy milkers big big mommy milkers big big huge milkers and huge big milkies why are you 1.00

06:14:57.420 covering up now so the last question for you the last guy that you had sex with how quickly did you 1.00

06:15:02.940 sleep with them i think like the second or third time yeah but we talked for a while before okay like

06:15:10.460 he actually was asking me out multiple times before i finally went out with him yeah and we

06:15:16.780 agreed like immediately like i'm not going to sleep with you if you're sleeping with other people if you 0.94

06:15:21.020 decide to that's fine just clue me in because i don't want to catch fucking a cd 0.97

06:15:26.380 i just like what actual christian ethics do you adhere to i i'm definitely very forgiving um i have

06:15:33.500 forgiven my husband for a lot of things um i try not to like i don't feel like it's my place to judge

06:15:39.420 anybody i yeah but i try to watch my tongue ethics have nothing to do with not judging people

06:15:45.740 judge not that you might not be judged or like you know watch that that would just that would

06:15:49.340 just be a standardization the log out of your eye before you point out yeah yeah but don't you

06:15:54.700 understand that that's a standardization so that's that's that's actually giving a standard for which

06:15:59.020 to judge okay saying okay yeah that's what it's doing is giving a standard for which but it also

06:16:03.820 talks about like you know like you're not going to sit here and judge somebody for the 0.95

06:16:06.540 shit that you're doing yeah why couldn't you it because it says worry about the log in your 0.98

06:16:13.340 own eye before you try to point out the splinter and someone else just so you understand appeal to 0.99

06:16:18.620 hypocrisy if you're going to argue something one of the weakest forms of argumentation to say it's

06:16:24.060 because it's it's actually fallacious it's called an appeal to hypocrisy so just pointing out well let's 0.56

06:16:30.380 assume for a second that a serial killer told you that it's bad to kill people he would still be right

06:16:35.820 but he would be a hypocrite right so the thing is is um when you're structuring arguments you don't 0.94

06:16:40.940 want to think about what could or could not be uh hypocritical from the person's angle when you're 0.97

06:16:46.380 talking about judgment though you use judgment all the time i mean you have to just to get by in life

06:16:52.140 you have to use judgment yeah i mean to some degree yeah to some degree so the thing is it's like you

06:16:57.500 judge people constantly i mean if you see somebody who looks sinister you probably stay away from them

06:17:03.100 right but that's why i specify different ways i'm also doing i'm not going to judge them i'm not

06:17:08.380 going to judge someone for things that i'm also doing yeah but i don't understand why that makes

06:17:12.460 it better because it's that's the thing i don't get i don't understand how that is the perception of

06:17:18.540 the christian that is that if you're a sinner and you're judging other sinners that that somehow makes

06:17:23.260 your sin less bad that's what i don't get no i don't think it makes your sin less bad i'm just right

06:17:28.060 so then so then why why is that part of this kind of ethical framework that you have of but i don't

06:17:33.980 judge because i'm doing the same thing that doesn't seem like it's in the spirit of that handsome

06:17:38.700 donated 69 dollars almost to whatever first all these lovely ladies without visible tattoos are piercings 1.00

06:17:47.100 you don't realize just how beautiful and amazing you look the exception gets a pass from me

06:17:52.860 uh okay i'm not sure what that means um he likes that you guys don't have tattoos i i guess okay thank you

06:18:05.340 good to know good to know uh let's do the other dating app

06:18:13.500 uh this is sky uh okay this is your hinge scroll down

06:18:19.020 next let's debate this topic adult circumcision i love that topic uh what just really quick what's

06:18:31.260 your position there for or against circumcision for your four circumcision for adult circumcision oh

06:18:39.180 adult uh wait so like them deciding for themselves yes gotcha oh so you're against child yes oh okay all

06:18:48.460 right next uh okay uh next next you won public okay cool congrats next fake a social cause i care

06:19:02.300 about this one's interesting environmental racism environmental racism what is that is like redlining

06:19:08.460 it's okay the practice of where um certain minority groups are living in areas that

06:19:16.460 uh have higher pollution um

06:19:23.580 and don't have investment from the community in like grocery stores they're like food deserts stuff

06:19:29.340 like that so yeah it's always been that way like everywhere it's yeah so that's a cause that i care about

06:19:36.460 are there any more nick or is that okay that's my cat well my parents cat that's a sweet little

06:19:49.340 proper dating app uh what was the other was there something else we had to do nick

06:19:54.220 uh we'll do that really quick oh we'll do that really quick sure

06:20:01.900 oh hold on warlord 69 you donated 69 dollars maddie where the heck is my man gus andrew great to

06:20:11.100 see you again keep destroying the cat before it happens to others ladies bear or mr yeast the english simp 0.72

06:20:18.860 i don't care mr yeast i don't know who i don't know who that is mr yeast the english i think he's

06:20:27.100 talking about bevo oh yeah i don't know who that is but i'll take him over a bear

06:20:35.260 you might take the barrel of bevo

06:20:36.940 and i'm trying to think what the other thing is that's how we should frame that question from now

06:20:45.020 on brian we should say the bear or bevo yeah uh yeah i agree bear bevo um we were gonna do bumble

06:20:54.620 the bumble segment really quick but i gotta wait until all the girls are back to do it so 0.99

06:20:58.940 uh what's up nick they need y'all oh bucker yeah pull up bucker come on

06:21:15.660 harder oh

06:21:19.900 uh that was really that could be related to the burden component that we're talking about just pull up

06:21:24.700 bucker uh this was kind of funny feminists warn young girls against marrying rich muscular football 1.00

06:21:33.020 stars who love them and take care of all their needs and praise them in speeches

06:21:37.420 uh so this is basically like he had this speech me and andrew reacted to it uh saying that

06:21:46.460 that uh what i forgot precisely what he said but basically he was saying that women are happiest i think

06:21:54.700 as mothers and taking care of the household sort of thing instead of like working some job i think

06:22:01.100 that was the that was the the uh they don't have many options after uh college

06:22:07.740 hmm so i thought that was funny that was from the babylon b or whatever

06:22:12.540 uh once she's back we'll do the bumble segment then we'll probably wrap up the show

06:22:16.700 uh i guess we could do a brief roast section i don't know i need to put mod delay on if we're

06:22:22.940 gonna do it though so um uh we need more section yeah we need we need a we need a roast section what 0.99

06:22:30.780 was the thing that you were gonna say and then the tts came in saved by the tts something about

06:22:36.300 something that i said how you don't like to debate or something like what was the correct what was the

06:22:44.060 own she was like so proud she was so proud i know why i mean it's true you like turn off mics and 0.77

06:22:50.220 shit when they don't agree with you no somebody when they won't bow someone paid for that someone 0.77

06:22:55.340 paid for that like five hundred dollars yeah he paid yeah is that is that weird in a relationship to 0.99

06:23:00.380 not want to debate i think it is actually jordan peterson has a talk on this where he says yeah

06:23:06.940 i just want someone to contend with yeah i disagree no if you want to like stay one

06:23:10.460 dimensional by all means but i want to know when i'm wrong i want to be able to be one

06:23:14.780 dimensional yeah and i don't think it has anything to do with being right or wrong okay well then

06:23:19.900 you're wrong now grow from this

06:23:24.300 i hate debating i don't i don't want you to be one-dimensional i want you to be three-dimensional

06:23:29.820 what what are the three dimensions being a person

06:23:33.420 what what are the you mean what do you what are you asking me what are the three dimensions

06:23:41.020 they know it's like the three dimensions stood for something or if you were referencing like

06:23:45.500 three-dimensional reality no you said you said i don't want to be one-dimensional

06:23:49.740 right i was doing a play on words was that is that why like guys maybe are not always funny

06:23:56.140 not everybody could be a comedian i mean it is if you understand it if you understand or maybe yeah but

06:24:01.820 i mean you have to be seeking that high level intellectualism that you're seeking so much

06:24:06.780 i really do no i actually love things like this believe it or not like we all have like holes in

06:24:13.100 our awareness nobody knows everything and i think being able to bounce ideas off of people and disagree

06:24:19.500 is good for humanity and i think it's something that society yeah i think it's great for humanity

06:24:24.780 i just don't think it's great for relationships i don't think that debating

06:24:27.900 and so debating is contentious right i don't think the idea you can have an idea behind debate

06:24:34.140 where you're just trying to get the truth that's true but debate's also utilized as a weapon it's a

06:24:39.180 weapon which you can defend yourself or you can assail other people verbally and inside of a polite

06:24:44.300 society that's basically what you're left with that's basically what you're left with right is uh

06:24:48.700 it's a form of uh verbal judo let's say i mean i wouldn't that that sounds exhausting in a

06:24:53.820 relationship right no for me it's just like if we have differing ideas i just want to discuss

06:24:57.980 each stance and like help each other deeper understand one another's perspective and then

06:25:02.940 maybe like you change your mind maybe i change mine maybe neither one of us do but then we

06:25:06.700 better understand the other person's position and i just i like to really explore ideas that way

06:25:10.860 stacy for senate donated sixty nine dollars she doesn't like debate she likes head games and word 1.00

06:25:19.580 vomit also is there a bra shortage in california where can we donate to help 0.55

06:25:32.860 all my exes should comment on this thread and i was actually having a conversation with somebody

06:25:39.100 about this honey bar debt okay isn't it the case that wait if you wear a bra does it lead to less

06:25:54.220 sagging or more sagging more more okay good to know cannot have that not with these perfect

06:26:01.260 okay don't please don't do that i'm squeezing out nothing yeah at least i said yiddies

06:26:11.180 um but yeah any any final thoughts from any of the panelists we'll do a short row session and then

06:26:16.220 we'll wrap up maybe andrew do you have a question i do i do have one i've been kind of patient here my

06:26:24.060 notes um if you'll humor me so um let me let me pull it up on my screen i wrote it down earlier

06:26:34.060 what would make you stop only fans forever

06:26:39.820 that's the question um just

06:26:44.060 finding a new like an interest or a job

06:26:48.620 avenue that i want to pursue i definitely would but i just

06:26:55.660 i haven't found anything that i want to do more so is it because it's easy it's definitely not easy

06:27:03.020 you don't think being on only hands on only fans is easy no i work literally like all the time

06:27:08.940 yeah and it is it's an emotionally laboring job too how's it emotionally i'm literally playing

06:27:15.420 therapists for half people that i talk to it's emotional labor too because we're actually like

06:27:20.220 brian said providing a girlfriend experience and that is you giving a bit of your if it's so hard

06:27:27.100 then why do it yeah it's fake it you're not really being their girlfriend you know jobs are hard you

06:27:31.980 have to make money and have a living and like oh then what you're actually saying is that comparison

06:27:37.580 other jobs it's as easy but you it's easy money right in comparison to the work that is a

06:27:47.100 common misconception so you mean getting naked on a camera where it doesn't require any actual real

06:27:52.940 brain power because you're not you're not curing cancer you're not you know building houses you're

06:27:58.300 not doing construction you're not healing someone you're not as much brain power as

06:28:03.260 being a doctor's a masculine job like you might be being a doctor's a masculine take as much brain

06:28:08.620 power as comedy what's that well i'm not just a comedian i'm a writer and a podcaster as well

06:28:14.060 and i have a real job and i won't talk about it on the show because i don't need to everybody

06:28:18.380 know where i work but i have a real big girl i think it probably is though guys drop a mic on the video

06:28:23.660 please i think a comedy probably would be harder than only fans work yeah i think they're both

06:28:28.140 how you approach it she really does like a bunch of editing and photo shoot type stuff all my own

06:28:33.260 editing all my own everything marketing uh heads up guys we've dropped the tts to 25 we'll do a short

06:28:40.620 roast segment uh oh warning i have uh unlimited moderation delay on this so uh last show i didn't

06:28:52.620 have to reject any of the roasts but i'm warning you that it is uh again last show i'd let all of

06:28:59.420 them go through but if any of them are like tos or like you're insulting anybody's appearance i'm not

06:29:06.460 going to play it if you want to roast what somebody said or you know if it's kind of on the more playful

06:29:11.580 side that's okay but if you're actually like insulting anybody's appearance or you're doing anything tos or

06:29:17.900 or you're being uh egregiously vile in some way i'm not going to play it but like i said i'm pretty

06:29:25.500 open with it so if you guys want we're going to do a 25 tts ladies you may want to have a drink for 0.98

06:29:31.980 this let's go yeah but also andrew speaking of which i do only cans too and uh i'll be done once i

06:29:39.900 have money to buy yeah they're out me for donated two hundred dollars great show good to see you

06:29:46.620 man still going back in the chat blondie you got potential purple stay away from bums and open 1.00

06:29:52.140 relationships and the rest of you good luck abuelita yikes thanks for that hey old man marine i probably 0.99

06:30:00.060 fucked your father then what is that i i'm not confident that's the own you think it is 0.98

06:30:06.220 uh old man marine i'm very sorry but uh your chat is not appropriate uh 0.99

06:30:17.340 uh uh i guess we can this one's kind of okay if you if you haven't i guess

06:30:22.940 hopper underscore outdoors donated 25 dollars to the soft three in pink do a pit test now on

06:30:29.660 the gross chick with the poo story what there's a poo story involved too 1.00

06:30:35.500 someone threw some six thousand nine hundred and sixty nine blah blah blah sixty nine donated 25 0.99

06:30:43.340 shares one two and three are prostitutes three is just a former prostitute as she had an only simps page 0.50

06:30:50.940 pros middle dot team middle dot tootay a person in particular a woman who engages in sex activity for

06:30:58.140 payment shout out tz nickelodeon donated 25 dollars yeah but i don't know why you're throwing me shade

06:31:07.500 i'll name 10 books when you can name three science slash tech books the demon haunted world by carl

06:31:13.500 dimensions cosmos by carl sagan the future of humanity the future of humanity donated 25

06:31:19.100 to the blonde girl is it cold in here sweetheart it is now

06:31:26.540 because it's the night time and i think it's brick here

06:31:31.500 ripped rich and rare donated 25 dollars fat boy andrew needs whatever bra yarl can scrape up he's a bag of 1.00

06:31:39.260 trash with 10-inch arms and big tits fat has crossed over gender barriers by growing tits 1.00

06:31:45.820 titties oops tits 1.00

06:31:50.060 i see my pants are out there 1.00

06:31:53.900 oh damn 0.99

06:31:56.940 raven simp donated 25 dollars i don't think raven haired actually likes debating i think she likes 0.99

06:32:04.620 conflict and men being aggressive notice how today she refused to say i'm wrong

06:32:10.300 lol i conceded multiple times did you yeah she did you didn't concede i did yes i did

06:32:16.780 she did you did yeah not really well if i like there's some things i'm not going to just bow on

06:32:23.100 there's data to back it up multiple rewatching yeah dude do we have a study that you conceded

06:32:28.860 grgracy donated 25 dollars quote underscore ladies underscore end quote if a guy treats you badly

06:32:39.580 not physically abusive but word on the street is you sort of deserve it is he really the bad guy in

06:32:45.340 this scenario no pls help donated 25 dollars hey brian and andrew 29 year old i own my house make

06:32:56.780 100 000 a year two kids i work in mental health and was left after six years of marriage dot any

06:33:04.300 advice on how to move forward well i'm sure wherever you work you'll get a discount so i wouldn't worry

06:33:11.580 uh any advice on how to move forward left after six years of marriage

06:33:20.220 gotta get back on the saddle you gotta find a new woman 1.00

06:33:23.580 is that is that brian's clint eastwood impression i have no idea i don't know what i

06:33:29.580 don't know what i was going for collectionette donated 25 dollars alissa i didn't say we would

06:33:36.060 have sex first date i would bite them peaches in a lady's room that's all 1.00

06:33:40.780 six thousand nine hundred and sixty nine blah blah blah 69 donated 25 dollars there is no difference 0.97

06:33:54.220 between regular pron and your only simps page trying to argue there is is just cope not only are you doing 0.98

06:34:02.380 prawn but you are also a prostitute renee and e13 donated 25 dollars you hussies need to get your 0.99

06:34:11.580 shit together let the patriarch fix you who's the patriarch in this situation 1.00

06:34:18.860 he likes to be tied up i promise you brian's lint roller donated 25 dollars back to low body count 0.99

06:34:27.180 an example that modern men care is jake paul versus danis jake was bullied for his wife's promiscuous

06:34:33.740 past men wouldn't have weaponized this info if they didn't think it mattered jandar donated 25

06:34:42.620 maddie is queen and men definitely prefer low body count facts 1.00

06:34:48.780 goes logan paul i don't think that's a roast i think that's just a

06:34:52.140 opinion yeah well they don't have to do this is the pagan donated 25 dollars you can say nice 0.97

06:34:58.060 shit to the pro-life talk earlier the panel claimed the right and free will for females 1.00

06:35:03.100 but they don't extend those same rights to the female within the womb this is a great point by the 1.00

06:35:08.860 way swanson donated 25 dollars saying that o f is harder than being a comedian is ridiculously dumb to 0.99

06:35:16.780 say thank you video of yourself being naked and telling sweet lies to simps cannot compare to 0.92

06:35:22.700 trying to make people laugh live thank you reverse card nickelodeon donated 25 dollars would you say

06:35:29.500 claiming twitch is commercial free or subs are bugged when they aren't as comparable to enough model using

06:35:35.180 ghost writers i get the sarcasm just don't want you to feel left out brian well i actually did turn off

06:35:42.700 the pre-roll ads and the uh mid-roll ads on twitch because uh i mean i don't make much on ads on twitch

06:35:51.500 anyways and i was like i'd rather like have higher audience retention than just make a couple like

06:35:57.420 a hundred bucks a show or whatever from twitch so uh and then the prime thing that's just i mean

06:36:04.300 that's me joking obviously i'm uh i guess i'm baiting a little bit i don't know uh thank you man

06:36:09.980 uh okay we have psycho donated 25 dollars brian i felt it necessary to inform you that i find you

06:36:18.140 to be utterly atrocious for your like of wizard sleeves you freak listen me and andrew as we're

06:36:26.140 both you know i'm the founder but he's on the board of directors we will not stand for your bigotry 0.98

06:36:32.620 hatred towards women with audis and large labia andrew is he's he's on the board of directors he

06:36:40.780 won't stand for it either right andrew

06:36:45.580 anyways uh yeah i disavow disavow this i 100 percent disavow yeah but the one point of contention

06:36:52.940 that me and mr atlas have all the time is i do not it was super mild i do not believe that brian

06:36:59.660 i haven't gotten a single i don't i don't believe that big labia is mad anybody disavow

06:37:05.020 just one point of contention any audis at the table are you circumcised uh if i answer will 0.97

06:37:12.460 everybody here are we talking about belly button beautiful an audi what labia audi labia no i'm 0.59

06:37:18.540 just curious to have an audi yeah especially as a runner that would like ruin my life 0.98

06:37:24.140 okay um what the fuck let's play the play again uh yeah we can't do that sorry bro sorry 0.92

06:37:38.620 uh and also if there's any cursing uh we can't 0.97

06:37:41.580 oh brettimus underscore maximus donated 25 dollars purple hair you said you're playing

06:37:50.860 therapist to many men on your of when you were questioned on what it would take for you to quit

06:37:55.740 what if i told you that you could do it for just one man husband raven simp donated 25 dollars that said

06:38:04.860 i'd love to try to date i mean debate raven xt i'll be in the instagram dms i can tell you love the

06:38:12.140 attention especially when guys mention your peach long old man marine donated 25 andrew what's wrong

06:38:22.460 with you today you were way too nice tonight did you get your rocks off before you came on spit that fire

06:38:29.980 we love it my apologies brian you're not that fat lol well okay bucky larson donated 27 0.58

06:38:38.300 of girls you shall bow to brian right now or else he'll turn into a grizzly bear 0.87

06:38:44.060 you think you could survive brian the grizzly bear

06:38:50.060 russ donated 25 dollars patriarch here just sending love to bobby babe for tolerating these cringe lords vote yay

06:38:58.300 oh my god hi i love you is that one of your only fan simps no patriarch would ever john the

06:39:05.820 wife donated 25 dollars raven hair the show isn't over yet but i am already cheating on you you are

06:39:14.540 a blabbering know-it-all think you are always correct and you never rest tfu better get help

06:39:20.220 sort of six thousand nine hundred and sixty nine blah blah blah 69 donated 25 dollars

06:39:28.300 now for fun mommy milk is mommy milk is motorboat 1.00

06:39:35.740 oh my god nickelodeon donated 25 dollars you're not worth a roast blondie i forgot you were there oh damn 0.99

06:39:44.620 damn hey boom roasted boom that is a good roast boom i can't stop looking at her in the monitor 1.00

06:39:51.420 because then she doesn't know i'm looking at me yourself donated 25 dollars brian try to be 0.99

06:39:56.460 productive by being collaborative rather than combative you act personally offended every

06:40:01.660 time you are challenged it's immature try to conduct yourself better

06:40:06.300 shut up ragnaros lord of fire donated 25 dollars brixen if you treated that dumpy like a raid boss 0.75

06:40:15.420 you could get rid of it in one raid here the loot that drops is a plus 10 stand buffers

06:40:23.020 ragnaros lord of fire donated 25 uh you can pull those up nick guys we're it's just through uh stream

06:40:30.700 labs if you want to send a message we're not doing reads um uh yeah okay thanks yeah thank you guys

06:40:40.780 appreciate it appreciate it if you guys want you can get your last minute uh messages in there for the

06:40:47.340 roasts we're going to wrap up here in a few minutes and uh trying to think what else there was to uh

06:40:54.060 talk about i hit all my notes we did all the dating apps oh we didn't do the bumble segment okay

06:40:58.860 uh we'll have the girls do uh you get 20 swipes each this is good to do with end i like this

06:41:07.660 and uh we'll see uh what your type is we need like your dating age range yeah age range you get like

06:41:13.340 so i would say 31 to

06:41:17.740 50 men and women is that allowed uh i think we can only do men okay wait so 30 to 50. 31 to 50.

06:41:35.500 it's not it's not like a non-negotiable i would go for an older or younger guy but f11 please oh nice

06:41:41.740 do i like sure they're bios no i mean the first picture looks yeah okay

06:41:53.980 so yes or no i'm not into the fedora but he's cute no the fedora was a deal breaker

06:42:02.060 yeah no yes i like him yes um definitely yes yes yes we're pausing the tts for just a moment but

06:42:14.460 you guys can send them in and i'll get to them in a bit making like the silliest face i can't tell but

06:42:19.180 um i'll go with no on the safe side yes

06:42:28.380 no not for this

06:42:31.580 um i don't know which one which one just choose like the hottest one if there's like

06:42:38.060 multiple guys in the picture um yes i want this guy in the bike

06:42:41.980 um no i don't like his facial hair uh yes yes

06:42:55.340 it looks aie yes it looks like young andrew

06:43:01.180 um no no

06:43:06.460 no yes

06:43:12.940 no is that 20 like a okay no not for this one

06:43:19.820 we're gonna go with you next in your age range what's your age range uh

06:43:26.940 20 to 35. oh that's mine too

06:43:30.780 i'm 22 no no no no no oh yeah

06:43:53.020 yeah no no no

06:43:57.580 yeah oh yeah he's cute no no no sure

06:44:09.020 no no no no no no no he's peeing in that that's a no hard no no who's next age range um let's say 29 to 40

06:44:33.980 i keep trying to play with you

06:44:39.660 i keep trying to play footsie with you

06:44:41.660 i keep playing with you no

06:44:43.580 no

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06:44:51.900 no

06:44:53.900 i no

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06:45:23.020 i'm

06:45:29.740 no

06:45:30.860 um

06:45:31.740 yes

06:45:45.660 uh yes yes no no no yes i don't travel guys on here yes yes not enough dad bods yes which one

06:46:07.740 is it a two-for-one deal uh no what kind of picture is that yes who's rock climbing uh

06:46:18.460 you don't even know who it is just say yes or no no

06:46:24.260 kyle sure sure yes yes yes

06:46:34.220 uh no no

06:46:39.140 uh yes

06:46:43.960 yes

06:46:46.720 yes

06:46:50.200 and no

06:46:54.140 was that all yes smile man

06:46:58.820 yes

06:47:03.740 age range

06:47:06.560 um 38 to 50

06:47:08.880 38 to 50

06:47:10.820 yeah i guess so

06:47:13.340 you're gonna go on the golden bachelor

06:47:16.860 perfect match

06:47:21.700 into the mic if you can just say yes or no i can't see his face well enough no

06:47:29.340 yes

06:47:31.560 yes

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06:47:56.980 yeah

06:47:58.900 yeah

06:47:58.940 mm-hmm

06:48:00.400 no

06:48:01.940 too daddish no

06:48:04.140 yeah

06:48:04.940 no

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06:48:09.140 what's 20

06:48:09.980 next

06:48:10.520 uh 28 to 37

06:48:13.860 fair

06:48:24.060 no

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06:48:31.160 hmm

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06:48:37.100 no

06:48:39.200 no

06:48:39.480 yes

06:48:40.660 no

06:48:41.240 no

06:48:41.420 Yes. No. No. Nope. Yes. No. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Yes.

06:49:05.000 Everybody had such different tastes.

06:49:11.520 My taste didn't even come up on there.

06:49:13.260 It wasn't even like overwhelmingly like yes or no.

06:49:16.280 Or a single gym from the office.

06:49:17.700 Were they picky or what do you think, Madison?

06:49:19.940 Not as picky as like other people have been. They're pretty good.

06:49:24.040 Any no, like 100% no's?

06:49:27.340 No.

06:49:27.940 Okay.

06:49:29.100 All right, guys, we're going to do a few more minutes of the thing.

06:49:33.120 A couple came through. I'm going to let them come through.

06:49:36.540 Yeah, I got to lose some weight, boys.

06:49:56.340 Eric Six donated $25. Did you see H3Ethan challenged you to a debate?

06:50:03.060 I believe you could beat him. He clearly has never watched your show and is only making assumptions on your stances and opinions.

06:50:10.400 I hope you do it.

06:50:11.420 You guys are getting worse and harder than we are.

06:50:14.220 Yeah.

06:50:15.520 I mean, I honestly, I'm not interested, to be honest.

06:50:20.680 But Andrew would do great, though.

06:50:25.780 Okay, we have...

06:50:28.780 Board troll donated $25.

06:50:32.120 Brian, I'm not sure why you don't go down on women. 1.00

06:50:35.540 With your micro-peeper, you have to give the girls something to expect. 0.97

06:50:39.500 Eating these is usually tasty, unless it's summer. 0.99

06:50:42.860 Damn, brutal. 1.00

06:50:44.400 Oh, man. 1.00

06:50:45.480 Yeah.

06:50:47.720 Yeah, I don't...

06:50:49.320 I'm a fan of labia, but I don't do that.

06:50:53.980 They're coming for you.

06:50:55.780 What's that?

06:50:56.380 I said they're coming for you.

06:50:57.360 Oh, I don't care. 0.98

06:50:58.120 Will you kiss a woman after she's gone down on you? 0.97

06:51:00.300 Nope. 0.73

06:51:01.020 What?

06:51:01.780 She can, like, rinse her mouth or brush her teeth or whatever, but...

06:51:04.980 Wow.

06:51:06.540 It's called a sexual boundary. 0.53

06:51:10.080 Interesting.

06:51:10.760 Okay, so are you agreeing, Andrew?

06:51:12.840 You don't go down on women either?

06:51:15.100 I didn't say that. 0.99

06:51:15.860 I said that if a woman were to go down on a dude, you ain't fucking kissing her afterwards. 1.00

06:51:20.820 It's gross. 1.00

06:51:21.520 It's your penis? 1.00

06:51:22.700 If it's your wife. 1.00

06:51:23.420 I don't give a shit. 1.00

06:51:24.320 Yeah, no. 1.00

06:51:25.200 No.

06:51:25.900 But you do go down on women, though. 0.99

06:51:27.200 I wouldn't... 1.00

06:51:27.580 You better get a fucking... 1.00

06:51:28.140 You better get a tooth broken. 1.00

06:51:30.220 What the fuck? 1.00

06:51:31.380 No way. 1.00

06:51:32.200 Y'all are babies.

06:51:35.120 What's that?

06:51:36.160 I said that's babyish.

06:51:37.500 I'm not gonna...

06:51:38.120 What's your body count, Andrew?

06:51:39.540 Hold on.

06:51:39.560 Hold on.

06:51:40.160 How about instead of you two whispering under your breath, why don't you actually say

06:51:45.000 it into the microphones?

06:51:46.300 Yes, please.

06:51:46.700 Because it's so unserious.

06:51:47.840 I said, so you've never done a cum swap.

06:51:50.680 Okay.

06:51:50.920 Yeah, what did you say?

06:51:51.780 I said this feels like high school.

06:51:55.600 Why does it feel like high school?

06:51:57.000 Because it feels like you make a statement and then he agrees.

06:52:00.240 Andrew disagrees.

06:52:01.200 And then you agree.

06:52:01.860 I think Andrew...

06:52:02.380 Andrew disagrees with me on plenty of things.

06:52:04.020 Goes down on women.

06:52:04.940 He didn't object to that one.

06:52:06.300 Yeah, he just doesn't like to be kissed after his wife goes on.

06:52:09.140 Right.

06:52:09.480 Just whatever.

06:52:09.840 But I feel like those are like very high school things to say because that's just inexperienced.

06:52:14.720 How does it happen?

06:52:15.500 Oh, it's just inexperienced.

06:52:17.040 You know what I need to do? 0.95

06:52:18.280 I need to walk a guy through a mall while he's drinking his sperm and then I can get the 1.00

06:52:22.200 sufficient experience to get the clap like you did.

06:52:24.960 And one of these days...

06:52:25.800 From my boyfriend who cheated.

06:52:26.960 ...we would be on par with each other.

06:52:28.100 But it's not too dead.

06:52:28.540 From my boyfriend who cheated though.

06:52:29.820 So, okay.

06:52:30.660 No.

06:52:31.080 All right.

06:52:31.280 He got you on that one.

06:52:32.040 He got you.

06:52:33.200 Well, so how would it have anything to do with inexperience?

06:52:38.800 Well, I'm just...

06:52:39.640 I mean, I'm sure maybe... 1.00

06:52:40.960 Have you had a bad experience eating pussy? 1.00

06:52:43.060 Is that why? 1.00

06:52:43.960 I'm sorry.

06:52:44.440 Should I not say that?

06:52:45.840 No.

06:52:46.300 I did it a couple times when I was younger, but I quickly...

06:52:50.240 Honestly, I wish I never did it.

06:52:51.920 Was it unsanitized?

06:52:53.080 No, it had nothing.

06:52:53.940 Okay.

06:52:54.140 It had absolutely nothing to do with that. 1.00

06:52:56.060 There was nothing wrong with the pussy. 1.00

06:52:58.460 Nothing wrong with the pussy. 1.00

06:52:59.820 I actually learned at a very young age. 1.00

06:53:02.200 Somehow, I discovered this in 2008.

06:53:05.060 Maybe it was...

06:53:05.580 I don't know exactly when.

06:53:08.360 So, HPV, men are experiencing very high incidence of throat and head cancer.

06:53:19.000 And this is directly linked to HPV.

06:53:23.540 And this is...

06:53:24.640 So, who's that famous actor?

06:53:26.460 Was it Martin Sheen?

06:53:29.420 I know.

06:53:30.040 I can look it up.

06:53:30.780 Can you Google it?

06:53:32.200 But, a lot of men are getting throat and head cancer.

06:53:40.120 Yeah.

06:53:40.260 They should have gotten the vaccine.

06:53:42.760 Well, for the longest time, it wasn't recommended in men.

06:53:46.260 It's only now, recently, that they've started recommending men get the HPV vaccine.

06:53:51.140 So, I'm not going to get...

06:53:53.140 I mean, I already regret having done it those couple times when I was much younger.

06:53:58.260 But, yeah.

06:53:59.360 I'm not getting throat cancer for your sexual gratification. 0.90

06:54:02.880 Sorry. 1.00

06:54:04.480 If that makes me high school and inexperienced, I ain't doing that shit. 0.99

06:54:09.200 You're so sassy. 0.99

06:54:10.740 You're so sassy.

06:54:12.740 Nick, can you find it, please?

06:54:16.080 He's married to...

06:54:17.040 I'm trying to think of...

06:54:19.040 This guy got throat cancer.

06:54:20.960 Famous...

06:54:21.360 I think it's Martin Sheen. 1.00

06:54:22.400 He got it from eating pussy? 1.00

06:54:24.220 Yes. 1.00

06:54:24.760 Is it a higher percentage of men getting throat cancer than a girl? 0.95

06:54:29.340 That's where Tony Montana got his famous scar as well.

06:54:33.820 He got his famous scar from doing that. 1.00

06:54:36.540 Damn. 0.99

06:54:37.180 Like, is it actually more common in men? 0.99

06:54:39.300 I'm genuinely curious.

06:54:40.480 But if your wife isn't sleeping around, though, how would you get... 1.00

06:54:43.460 I don't usually have...

06:54:44.080 Like, doesn't it not show up on men like that?

06:54:46.640 They can have, like, no symptoms.

06:54:48.200 More women are vaccinated against it.

06:54:52.800 And I don't know the exact breakdown, but it does seem to be...

06:54:57.440 This does seem to be manifesting itself more in men.

06:55:01.380 Was it Michael Douglas?

06:55:02.820 Yeah.

06:55:03.740 Michael Douglas.

06:55:04.800 Was that the guy in Wall Street? 1.00

06:55:08.000 Or what was that fucking movie? 0.99

06:55:10.440 I don't know. 1.00

06:55:10.980 One of these fucking famous actors. 1.00

06:55:13.120 Can you pull up... 1.00

06:55:13.520 The chat probably knows.

06:55:14.560 Can we just pull up the chat?

06:55:18.240 Yeah, so...

06:55:19.880 That's where the real roasting's happening.

06:55:21.660 Yeah.

06:55:22.460 I don't even want to read it.

06:55:23.520 I know, right?

06:55:25.880 But, yeah, no, it's...

06:55:27.440 And they've got neck problems, too, so, you know, I'm not trying to...

06:55:32.500 I mean, you're entitled to your sexual boundaries, dude.

06:55:34.840 It's fine.

06:55:35.760 Yeah, I'm not trying to argue that you're wrong for that.

06:55:37.780 I just...

06:55:39.340 You literally were.

06:55:40.640 I didn't say that, but it does seem a little bit like...

06:55:43.540 It seems a little high school.

06:55:45.300 Like, that's something that I feel like a high school kid would say.

06:55:48.020 No.

06:55:49.420 What if...

06:55:50.020 Okay. 1.00

06:55:50.640 Have you ever had anal sex? 1.00

06:55:51.940 I'm assuming this is a yes, but... 1.00

06:55:53.340 A couple times.

06:55:54.220 It's not really, like, what you gave her.

06:55:55.780 Brian!

06:55:56.460 Okay.

06:55:56.860 It's not my fate. 1.00

06:55:57.760 Has a guy ever asked you to have anal sex? 1.00

06:56:02.020 Yeah. 1.00

06:56:02.540 Yeah, into the mic.

06:56:03.480 Okay.

06:56:04.080 Yeah. 1.00

06:56:04.320 Why didn't you want to have anal sex? 1.00

06:56:06.480 Because I just don't want anything in my butt. 1.00

06:56:08.900 Okay, cool. 0.99

06:56:09.580 This is a no-no zone for me.

06:56:10.860 Yeah.

06:56:11.220 It's a sexual boundary, right?

06:56:13.160 How would you feel if a guy didn't respect that boundary?

06:56:15.460 Then it would technically be rape, so... 1.00

06:56:19.820 Oh, my God.

06:56:20.340 Don't say the word. 0.98

06:56:21.220 I don't know what I fucking mean, but okay. 0.96

06:56:23.720 It's fair to have whatever boundary you have. 0.97

06:56:25.840 It's totally fine.

06:56:27.120 But I wasn't saying that was high school.

06:56:28.320 I was just saying you guys, like, you say one thing, he agrees.

06:56:31.520 But, yeah.

06:56:32.240 Look.

06:56:32.460 But he disagreed, though.

06:56:33.340 No is a complete sentence.

06:56:36.360 I don't want to is enough.

06:56:38.040 He said something, and then I disagreed with him, and then we agreed on the things that

06:56:41.300 we agree about.

06:56:42.360 It's almost like it's adult conversation.

06:56:44.900 I know.

06:56:45.120 It's like high school, though.

06:56:47.200 I just wanted to know the reason. 0.99

06:56:48.760 And now that I know the reason, that there's not, like, a, oh, like, pussy stank or some 1.00

06:56:55.220 kind of, like, just wrong reason for it. 1.00

06:56:59.900 How about the fact that women are promiscuous? 1.00

06:57:01.680 And there's no scenario where I'm going to go down on a girl who, there's a possibility 1.00

06:57:06.140 she just fucked a guy the night before. 1.00

06:57:07.960 How about that, too? 1.00

06:57:10.060 Yeah.

06:57:10.640 He's not wrong. 0.53

06:57:11.060 I'm not into that.

06:57:13.660 Some guys may not want to go down on a chick who has armpit hair. 1.00

06:57:16.920 I mean. 0.59

06:57:17.940 Exactly.

06:57:19.000 Seems reasonable.

06:57:20.380 What's the other?

06:57:21.160 Sorry, guys.

06:57:21.620 A whole bunch came through.

06:57:22.540 I haven't been paying attention to it.

06:57:24.160 Okay.

06:57:26.660 Accountability donated $25.

06:57:29.640 Ratings starting from right.

06:57:31.140 Decades too late Bratstall equals 4.

06:57:34.900 Common Blonde equals 89 IQ. 0.96

06:57:37.940 Raven equals ear destroying Yaps McGee. 0.96

06:57:41.240 34 Triple G equals Moo. 0.99

06:57:44.020 Barnes and Noble Enjoyer equals 5.

06:57:46.880 Eat more you twig.

06:57:48.400 Comedian equals based.

06:57:51.420 A non-donated $25.

06:57:54.500 Alyssa, you have the right energy, but you're not there yet.

06:57:57.620 We can fix you.

06:57:58.920 38 yo, 6 feet 100k plus, WFH tech, nerdy AF, strong dad bod, solo dad to one yo girl.

06:58:09.260 Mongomous and never cheated.

06:58:11.380 Want two plus more kids? 1.00

06:58:13.620 DM? 1.00

06:58:14.480 Fuck yes. 1.00

06:58:15.120 Get in there. 1.00

06:58:15.860 Curtis underscore yon, undiscoordinated $25.

06:58:20.240 Brian, which prison cell would you pick one?

06:58:23.040 The cell with a 6 feet 7 inches, 270 pounds, 5% body fat prison daddy bear who starts you

06:58:30.260 on hormones and pubic blockers.

06:58:32.840 Two, the other cell with a grizzly bear who mauls you.

06:58:36.120 The grizzly bear.

06:58:38.980 That's the grizzly bear.

06:58:40.220 I'm taking the grizzly bear.

06:58:42.600 Brian? 1.00

06:58:45.800 I don't even know how to answer this dumb fucking thing. 1.00

06:58:52.100 Honestly, I'm definitely dying if it's the grizzly bear. 1.00

06:58:55.440 I'd probably survive.

06:58:57.380 I'd probably survive with the 6'7 dude, so I'm going to survive.

06:59:01.840 They're both pretty terrible, though.

06:59:06.280 Love how tonight's thumbnail is essentially soft core corn with a highly sexualized edit

06:59:11.360 with a girl's chest out. 1.00

06:59:13.340 Oh, is this the fucking the right cornering? 0.99

06:59:15.200 Whatever, dude. 0.99

06:59:16.360 Hypocritical stuff, but not surprising. 0.96

06:59:18.360 How is it hypocritical? 0.96

06:59:20.380 Send another one in, dude. 0.69

06:59:21.960 Actually articulate how it's hypocritical.

06:59:26.000 I don't even understand the argument here, but okay.

06:59:28.300 Okay, grid one is the definition of a divorced energy.

06:59:31.240 Okay, I don't know if he's here to see that, but.

06:59:33.480 Warlord 69, you woo donated $25.

06:59:37.560 Live statistics, one in six women got the clap. 1.00

06:59:41.360 Oh, F isn't a career.

06:59:42.820 Tell yourself all the sweet lies you need to.

06:59:45.360 At the end of the day, no sane man will be putting a ring on that.

06:59:49.100 Probably only Mr. Yeast.

06:59:53.500 Can you read this one, Natty?

06:59:54.620 Respect men who have germ boundaries. 0.99

06:59:57.920 I feel the same.

06:59:58.720 And yes, Andrew, I do hope you're swinging titty blank debates, Ethan, as he can't call

07:00:04.800 you fat because he was fat for a long time.

07:00:06.700 He's got nothing on you. 0.93

07:00:07.500 Old man marine donated $25.

07:00:10.900 Alyssa, was it?

07:00:12.180 Close them legs and keep reading the Bible.

07:00:14.860 The Lord seems to be working on your heart.

07:00:17.760 Being non-denom is like being a libertarian.

07:00:20.360 Pick a side.

07:00:20.820 Double-minded and unstable, James 1-8.

07:00:26.000 Brian's lint roller donated $25.

07:00:29.420 Whispering and giggling to each other.

07:00:32.120 Totally not high school behavior. 1.00

07:00:34.420 The fucking irony. 0.99

07:00:35.700 That's a good one. 1.00

07:00:36.500 You guys got it.

07:00:37.780 You got it.

07:00:38.520 They got you.

07:00:39.160 We're just being little bi-girlies over here.

07:00:41.400 King Kip Gaming donated $25.

07:00:44.640 Former correctional officer ate me on Insta Superman underscore R underscore L89.

07:00:49.920 I believe the threshold for that is far more than the 25, so unfortunately we can't rate

07:00:56.140 you on Instagram.

07:00:56.960 I think what is the threshold?

07:00:58.880 I think I even took it out of as an option to do an Instagram rating.

07:01:04.620 I don't think we even offer that.

07:01:09.260 Yeah, we don't offer that.

07:01:10.520 I mean, we'll do it for $500 if you want, but otherwise we're not going to do a rating.

07:01:15.300 Nikki, pull up Twitch. 1.00

07:01:17.380 Oh, wait.

07:01:17.780 Hold on.

07:01:18.100 I thought they were talking about you, and then I realized he's correct. 0.97

07:01:22.620 Jack underscore Chavante donated $25.25.

07:01:27.420 The table is defensive regarding carnals.

07:01:30.740 They are trapped between promiscuity and ego. 0.96

07:01:34.020 Sex pays now. 0.99

07:01:35.560 Gals are cashing in. 0.98

07:01:37.260 Anyone who has ever said get that bag was female, etc. 0.88

07:01:41.180 Hashtag are welcome.

07:01:42.740 Hmm.

07:01:45.640 Can you read this, Mandy?

07:01:46.780 Love how tonight's thumbnail is essentially soft court.

07:01:49.520 We already read that.

07:01:50.380 With the highly sexual edit.

07:01:51.480 He sent it again. 0.97

07:01:52.060 With the girl's chest out hypocritical stuff, but not surprising. 0.94

07:01:54.820 Grade 1 is a definition of a divorce dad. 0.79

07:01:57.160 A divorce dad energy.

07:01:58.800 Wow.

07:01:59.000 Ripped rich and rare donated $25.

07:02:02.460 Fat boy Andrew got stuffed in the locker all his child and adult life.

07:02:06.780 He thought reading books, marrying a single mom, and taking care of their kids is the way to live. 1.00

07:02:12.900 Fat boy with tits. 1.00

07:02:14.700 Hold this cell. 1.00

07:02:15.960 We like fat boys, so y'all can chill on that. 0.97

07:02:20.560 Okay. 0.96

07:02:21.380 Good to know.

07:02:22.000 Andrew, whip them out.

07:02:22.720 Dad bods are where it's at.

07:02:24.940 All right.

07:02:26.200 So, on Twitch, we're going to...

07:02:27.540 Oh, pull up Twitch really quick.

07:02:30.000 Guys, go to Twitch.tv.

07:02:31.140 I've never even been to prison.

07:02:32.760 Slash whatever.

07:02:35.200 Drop us a follow on the Prime sub, guys.

07:02:37.040 Follow on the Prime sub.

07:02:37.880 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

07:02:41.600 And, guys, it's been 17 minutes since we've had a Prime, so it's probably bugged.

07:02:45.540 I don't know if somebody can test that out, but Viking, think for the Prime.

07:02:49.660 Mike, think for the Prime.

07:02:50.720 Q Boss, think for the Prime.

07:02:53.780 J-Dog 101, think for the Prime.

07:02:57.220 Baby Champ, think for the follow.

07:02:58.740 Kai, think for the follow.

07:03:00.300 Lucky Bucky, think for the follow.

07:03:01.800 Guys, I think our Prime is bugged.

07:03:03.320 Does anybody have a little Prime chat?

07:03:05.780 A little Prime in the chat to let us know.

07:03:08.500 Thank you, guys.

07:03:08.980 Appreciate it.

07:03:10.040 And then, Nick, can you show the view count?

07:03:11.760 Guys, we're going to wrap up here pretty soon.

07:03:13.440 Like the video, please, on your way out.

07:03:15.100 We've got about 6,000 views on YouTube still.

07:03:19.460 So if you guys can, just hit the like button, guys.

07:03:22.720 We've got 6,000 watching.

07:03:24.520 We have almost 3,000 likes.

07:03:27.660 Get us to 3,000 likes before the end of the video helps out in the algorithm.

07:03:31.660 Over on Twitch, who are we going to raid?

07:03:34.580 We are going to raid.

07:03:36.080 Oh, they changed up the – that's interesting.

07:03:38.360 Oh, here it is.

07:03:38.860 That's okay.

07:03:40.160 There's Woe Grandma. 1.00

07:03:41.100 There's – so – wait.

07:03:45.720 Hold on.

07:03:48.100 Hmm.

07:03:49.640 There's so the poppin'.

07:03:52.420 We'll do Woe Grandma. 1.00

07:03:54.500 We'll do Woe Grandma. 1.00

07:03:55.560 She's got – all right.

07:03:56.820 We'll raid her in just a moment. 0.93

07:03:59.780 I'm trying to see if there's anything.

07:04:02.500 Yeah, I'll just – we'll wrap up the show here.

07:04:04.380 So, let's see.

07:04:10.100 Last call to action, though.

07:04:11.920 I'd like to end the show.

07:04:13.440 I get a lot of flack from people on this.

07:04:16.940 By seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you three – well, actually, maybe you two – a call to action,

07:04:26.100 would you consider stomping sex work entirely tonight?

07:04:34.640 Why?

07:04:35.360 For what?

07:04:35.660 Because I just said so.

07:04:37.680 No.

07:04:38.400 No.

07:04:40.500 Okay.

07:04:41.080 Well, I tried.

07:04:42.080 See, guys?

07:04:42.560 I tried.

07:04:44.340 It was a noble cause.

07:04:46.880 By the way, I like your haircut, Andrew.

07:04:48.200 Did you get a haircut?

07:04:49.140 Your hair looks a little different. 0.99

07:04:51.920 How do you notice shit like that? 0.98

07:04:53.580 I'd never even – I'd never noticed stuff like that. 0.99

07:04:56.460 But, yes, I did.

07:04:57.920 I did get it.

07:04:58.320 I'm an attention to detail kind of guy.

07:05:00.800 I know.

07:05:01.280 Attention to detail kind of guy.

07:05:02.540 I'm not.

07:05:02.940 It's good.

07:05:03.280 It looks good.

07:05:04.460 It's slicked back very well.

07:05:06.120 You don't have any of those strays like I do right here.

07:05:08.900 It's good.

07:05:09.500 Well done.

07:05:10.120 You guys are Superman, girl.

07:05:11.340 That's cute.

07:05:13.140 So, no to the call to action?

07:05:16.440 No, I'm not quitting.

07:05:18.780 Okay.

07:05:19.480 I tried.

07:05:21.040 I tried.

07:05:21.900 So, we are going to do a raid.

07:05:23.820 We're going to raid WoeGrandma. 1.00

07:05:25.700 She's 82.

07:05:26.800 She plays World of Warcraft.

07:05:28.300 Be nice over there, guys.

07:05:29.620 I tried to raid some smaller streamers at the end of my stream.

07:05:32.540 So, a little love.

07:05:33.800 We're going to get her on the dating talk eventually. 0.54

07:05:36.980 She's got – anyways, I'm going to send this out right now.

07:05:40.760 It looks like she's about to do a raid or something.

07:05:43.500 It looks like she's in a raid.

07:05:44.400 Or, no, she's just playing with her user interface.

07:05:47.200 Oh, wait.

07:05:47.780 I got it.

07:05:48.120 Hold on.

07:05:48.340 Actually, really quick. 0.99

07:05:49.260 I just got to do my outro shit. 0.99

07:05:50.420 All right. 1.00

07:05:51.000 GG, well played to the panel.

07:05:52.420 Last call.

07:05:52.860 Hit the like button, please, on your way out.

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07:06:01.140 We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.

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07:06:09.500 Excuse me.

07:06:10.120 Yeah, and I got to apologize that I was late.

07:06:13.060 I did let Brian know that that may happen, but should be in the clear on that now.

07:06:20.760 I just had some stuff come up in the life that I had to take care of, so I want to apologize.

07:06:25.580 Yeah, as I was scheduled tonight, and I was late, and that's not anything that I ever really like to ever do, so I'm sorry about that.

07:06:34.240 Yeah, all good.

07:06:35.080 Oh, wait.

07:06:35.460 We have...

07:06:36.580 Used to, yes, I did. 1.00

07:06:45.620 Oh, shit. 0.99

07:06:47.040 What, like classic? 1.00

07:06:48.520 Yeah, old school.

07:06:49.960 Okay.

07:06:50.180 Like back in, you know, 97, 98, 99.

07:06:52.740 Wait, that...

07:06:53.800 Well, Woe was like, wow.

07:06:56.360 Well, that was like 2004, 2005, I think.

07:07:01.920 Were you playing...

07:07:03.480 What was the other...

07:07:04.360 I forgot.

07:07:05.280 EverQuest?

07:07:05.680 Yeah, EverQuest, EverQuest, yeah.

07:07:06.880 Oh, that's old school.

07:07:07.680 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

07:07:07.940 Holy fuck. 0.99

07:07:08.540 So, EverQuest, and then into WoW in the early 2000s. 1.00

07:07:11.640 I stopped once I moved out to LA.

07:07:12.760 Okay, yeah, EverQuest, that's OG.

07:07:14.200 Yeah.

07:07:14.340 You did the old school EverQuest.

07:07:15.840 Old school.

07:07:16.240 That's OG.

07:07:17.100 It was a lot of fun.

07:07:18.260 I'm trying to get our raids set up to you, Andrew.

07:07:20.500 You're going to be streaming for a little bit after this?

07:07:22.740 Yeah.

07:07:23.240 Okay.

07:07:23.920 Give me a sec.

07:07:24.580 My computer's lagging here.

07:07:25.700 I'm going to get you all set up.

07:07:27.640 We have...

07:07:28.580 Oh, my God. 0.99

07:07:29.620 Fucking... 1.00

07:07:30.580 Andrew. 1.00

07:07:33.040 Andrew, give us something here at the end.

07:07:36.900 What's the last thing you want to talk about?

07:07:39.240 Well, I appreciate everybody here at the panel turning out and the spirited debate, even though 0.98

07:07:45.980 you suck at it, you should probably quit immediately.

07:07:48.000 But other than that, right, it was a fun panel. 0.99

07:07:52.500 I don't take any of this stuff personally.

07:07:53.880 I hope you guys don't either.

07:07:55.240 I thought it was a fun exchange back and forth.

07:07:57.560 I hope to see all of you back. 0.79

07:07:59.920 Female comedians are not funny. 1.00

07:08:01.820 There's nothing you're ever going to be able to do to change my mind as long as you live. 0.95

07:08:05.660 It just can't...

07:08:06.440 It can't be done. 1.00

07:08:07.700 What if I whip out my dick? 1.00

07:08:08.940 Will that be funny then? 1.00

07:08:10.620 That...

07:08:10.900 See?

07:08:11.120 See what I mean?

07:08:11.880 It's just not the audience.

07:08:12.880 It wasn't...

07:08:13.300 It still was bad.

07:08:14.440 It was terrible.

07:08:15.180 You had the opportunity of a lifetime to go out on the best...

07:08:18.280 Well, you said as a woman...

07:08:19.680 It was a fail.

07:08:20.540 I was...

07:08:20.880 Listen, I was trying to, you know, adhere to your personal preference.

07:08:24.360 So, I wish... 1.00

07:08:25.280 If I had a penis, would I then be funny? 1.00

07:08:28.020 Yeah, but see... 1.00

07:08:28.620 Okay, then.

07:08:29.120 That's what I mean, right?

07:08:30.160 That will prove my point.

07:08:31.480 It was just... 1.00

07:08:32.040 My penis? 1.00

07:08:32.800 Yeah. 1.00

07:08:33.280 It was just okay.

07:08:33.740 As far as comedians go.

07:08:34.640 It was okay.

07:08:35.220 You know?

07:08:36.300 Wait, we...

07:08:37.180 We...

07:08:37.580 Wait, can you pull up, whoa, Grandma?

07:08:38.880 I guess I accidentally rate...

07:08:40.040 It's coming there.

07:08:42.740 I guess I rated her before. 1.00

07:08:44.640 Oh, damn. 0.98

07:08:45.340 I didn't mean to send it over early, but okay. 0.99

07:08:47.260 I guess we rated her.

07:08:48.320 She usually has late reactions. 0.95

07:08:49.380 It is a whatever rate.

07:08:51.200 Oh, there it is.

07:08:51.880 Okay.

07:08:52.260 Just in time.

07:08:53.700 All right.

07:08:54.360 Boom.

07:08:56.740 Look at that.

07:08:57.300 She's doing a raid. 0.73

07:08:58.760 She's playing...

07:08:59.400 Get him, Grandma.

07:09:03.860 Get like Granny. 0.99

07:09:05.600 I know.

07:09:06.480 You guys keep saying that.

07:09:09.340 Yeah.

07:09:10.980 Anyways.

07:09:12.080 Okay, there she is.

07:09:13.040 She's doing a raid in retail. 0.93

07:09:15.240 She's playing retail. 0.99

07:09:16.620 Cool.

07:09:17.360 Show her some love, guys.

07:09:18.940 Be nice, like I said.

07:09:20.620 Anyways.

07:09:21.800 What was the other thing we had to do?

07:09:23.920 Oh, I had one last...

07:09:27.640 By one last, I mean like three last questions.

07:09:30.580 So, all right.

07:09:31.620 Here we go.

07:09:33.440 Let's see.

07:09:34.900 Hold on, guys.

07:09:35.580 I got to pull this up.

07:09:37.580 Oh, okay. 1.00

07:09:39.540 I'm just going to be a goblin because fuck it. 1.00

07:09:42.240 I did... 1.00

07:09:42.780 Tonight's panel was ridiculous. 0.97

07:09:44.900 Who's the... 0.99

07:09:45.800 Who's the...

07:09:47.300 Who's the primary victim of war?

07:09:49.780 Men or women? 0.78

07:09:51.720 Who's the...

07:09:52.060 Starting with you.

07:09:54.900 This is the victim thing that I don't like, but I guess men.

07:10:03.100 Men?

07:10:04.220 Men.

07:10:05.340 Men.

07:10:07.020 Men.

07:10:07.460 Definitely men.

07:10:09.100 Okay.

07:10:09.660 But no war was created by a woman, so... 1.00

07:10:11.500 Well, that's not true at all.

07:10:12.880 Yeah, that's not true at all.

07:10:13.900 They were all on behalf of us.

07:10:14.860 It's not true at all.

07:10:16.540 That's why men are the victim. 1.00

07:10:18.040 We really have power to...

07:10:19.300 We're the ones that start the wars and then they have to finish them.

07:10:21.960 Well, I don't know if that's usually the case.

07:10:26.180 If you want to go back to England times, you know, the monarchy, like, there's plenty of

07:10:30.080 women that were in power who have started wars, and they were more violent than the 1.00

07:10:33.700 men.

07:10:34.860 Nick, can you Google kings or queens, like, more likely to start war?

07:10:40.940 So, my understanding is they did an analysis, queens were more likely than kings to go to

07:10:49.620 war.

07:10:50.080 Yeah, violence.

07:10:51.040 They were probably trying to, like, really assert their dominance, but just like female 1.00

07:10:54.980 police officers can be a little bit correctional officers and all that stuff.

07:10:58.700 I was a cool correctional officer.

07:11:00.240 Just FYI.

07:11:02.200 But, yes.

07:11:02.820 Just, like, the prison guards that are women, like, they say that they're way more harsh. 0.87

07:11:07.800 39 percentage points more likely to engage in a war in a given year compared to polities

07:11:13.240 ruled by kings.

07:11:14.680 Okay.

07:11:16.060 Oh, wait.

07:11:16.820 Nick, there's a...

07:11:17.960 Can you...

07:11:18.540 Take it seriously.

07:11:19.380 There's a QZ article?

07:11:21.440 Or, no, there's an economist.

07:11:22.760 Do you see the economist article?

07:11:24.980 Uh...

07:11:25.540 Uh...

07:11:27.700 Uh...

07:11:28.700 Yeah, so it says, over 193 reigns, they found that states ruled by queens were 20...

07:11:39.140 Oh, it's not going to show the whole thing.

07:11:40.500 It just says, were 27% more likely to wage war than those ruled by kings.

07:11:45.620 Uh, there's a bunch of articles that seem to cite this 27% number, so...

07:11:50.380 Uh, yeah, let's see.

07:11:51.560 What else?

07:11:52.140 Can you be sexist towards men?

07:11:53.320 Um...

07:11:55.320 Hmm...

07:11:57.320 No?

07:11:58.780 What about you?

07:11:59.980 No.

07:12:00.660 No?

07:12:01.520 Yes.

07:12:02.620 Yeah?

07:12:03.720 Yeah, definitely.

07:12:05.300 So, wait, you guys said no...

07:12:07.040 Well, I'm on the side of the, like, prejudice and power thing on this argument.

07:12:12.560 With all of it.

07:12:13.760 Obviously, you can just, like...

07:12:15.380 Okay, another five minutes.

07:12:15.940 Sorry.

07:12:16.100 Oh, Lord.

07:12:16.680 It's a literal definition.

07:12:17.980 It's misandry.

07:12:18.780 Uh, and then, what, so what's your reason?

07:12:23.920 Well, actually, yeah, yeah, I guess you, yeah, you can be, but I won't, I don't, I wouldn't

07:12:28.200 want to be, so...

07:12:29.300 No, no, no, okay.

07:12:30.120 That wasn't the question.

07:12:30.880 The question is, can, not like, can, in general, people, women, can you be racist towards men?

07:12:40.320 Sexist. 0.96

07:12:40.720 Sexist. 0.89

07:12:41.380 Oh, sorry, sorry, I'm so late.

07:12:43.760 Yeah, yeah. 0.80

07:12:44.980 Sexist. 0.84

07:12:45.560 So, yours is the prejudice, but what, so, uh, can you be racist towards white people? 0.81

07:12:52.200 Mm-mm.

07:12:53.080 No?

07:12:54.140 What about you?

07:12:56.160 Yeah?

07:12:57.360 Yes.

07:12:58.360 Yeah?

07:12:59.500 Yeah.

07:13:00.440 Yes.

07:13:02.600 Let's go into this for just five minutes.

07:13:05.240 Uh, can you explain it a little bit?

07:13:06.960 Um, I see what y'all are saying, like, I've experienced racism growing up, like, in a predominantly

07:13:16.520 black area, and going to a very much predominantly black school, and where I was a minority, but

07:13:22.340 I'm not over here crying the white girl tears, like, because historically, and just with everything,

07:13:30.300 I'm not the, the oppressed one.

07:13:32.820 It's like, like I said, it has to be, there has to be, like, a bit of power with it.

07:13:39.580 Argument completely conceded.

07:13:42.260 You conceded your own argument immediately.

07:13:44.460 You just said that you experienced racism while you were at a black school.

07:13:47.420 That's the end of that. 0.87

07:13:50.160 Checkmate.

07:13:50.940 I think that it was, it's quite different, I think, than racism.

07:13:57.820 Um, racism, because that's on, like, a societal, in a societal level, but this was my experience

07:14:04.320 in a small area, and also, we're talking about, like, a group of people that have been

07:14:10.560 so mistreated and taken advantage of, and.

07:14:14.680 So prejudice, so prejudice is power, right?

07:14:18.200 It's power plus prejudice equals racism.

07:14:20.680 So when you were the minority in a black school, you experienced racism.

07:14:24.240 That's the end of that.

07:14:25.440 Thanks. 0.86

07:14:25.820 That means that black people can be racist towards white people, right? 0.95

07:14:36.140 Well, I guess, but. 0.96

07:14:37.820 Yeah.

07:14:38.180 Okay, fine.

07:14:39.300 They could, but it's, it's a matter of.

07:14:41.480 I mean, you could argue that they are.

07:14:43.120 I would say it was valid.

07:14:45.260 I would say it was very valid for them to feel the way that they do based on, like, what

07:14:51.120 they have been through, what, their generations before them, and their family lineage have

07:14:55.540 friggin' been through.

07:14:56.000 You deserved it?

07:14:58.440 Um.

07:14:58.700 Was it good for ya?

07:14:59.820 They were just children.

07:15:00.700 Did you deserve it?

07:15:01.840 They were just children who have been experiencing a lot of, I'm sure that they experienced way

07:15:08.980 more racism than I did, though.

07:15:11.560 But that's not what we're talking about.

07:15:12.680 Oh, you deserved it?

07:15:16.740 Like, there's, kids bully kids, and whether it's racist or.

07:15:22.120 Yeah, but did you deserve for them to be racist towards you or not?

07:15:26.840 Were you doing something that.

07:15:28.080 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

07:15:29.780 Answer the question.

07:15:30.540 Did I deserve it?

07:15:31.180 Um.

07:15:31.600 Not me, personally, I don't think.

07:15:35.940 Yeah, so you didn't deserve it, and they were racist towards you, and you were the minority,

07:15:40.280 and they had the institutional power, and so, therefore, whites can experience racism from

07:15:46.560 blacks, right? 0.97

07:15:47.240 Yeah, but I'm not hurting from it in the same way.

07:15:50.760 What does that have to do with anything?

07:15:56.120 I'm too tired to talk about this.

07:15:57.640 I'm really too tired for this, and a little bit hungover and jet-lagged.

07:16:01.600 But, um.

07:16:02.720 Well, I'm a little tired and hungover.

07:16:04.680 I'm not jet-lagged, but.

07:16:06.200 You can.

07:16:08.560 I've seen people be racist towards my husband.

07:16:10.780 He's white, and I've seen it with my own eyes, and I'm a person of color, and it's,

07:16:15.560 you know, it goes both ways.

07:16:17.400 It goes both ways.

07:16:19.920 Hmm.

07:16:21.260 I mean.

07:16:22.300 Valid, but this is just my personal opinion.

07:16:24.060 Like, I, I'm an agreeable person, you know?

07:16:27.200 I see what you're saying.

07:16:28.140 Get your 25s in.

07:16:29.260 We're going to wrap.

07:16:29.700 Uh, any, any further thoughts on this, Andrew?

07:16:35.060 Yeah, well, I'm just, just trying to explain to you that both ways, both ways here, your

07:16:40.180 ideology has to be wrong.

07:16:42.020 Either way, one, that your ideology is wrong is that you started out by saying, I've experienced

07:16:47.080 racism when I was in a predominantly, um, you know, black school where I was the minority.

07:16:52.940 But then he went on to say, well, but I think that racism can really only be prejudice plus

07:16:59.340 power.

07:16:59.800 But if you're the only minority in that school, or one of the few minorities in that school,

07:17:03.240 then the power would go over to these other people who were not the minorities at the

07:17:06.740 school.

07:17:07.460 So if that's the case, that's still prejudice plus power by your criteria.

07:17:11.280 So both ways, whites can experience racism, right?

07:17:16.080 Theoretically, yes.

07:17:18.160 But the racism that they showed toward me did not, like, the racism they showed toward

07:17:22.980 me in this one small little example, in this little scenario, did not have an effect on,

07:17:29.780 like, everything to do with my life and my grandparents and, like, segregation and all

07:17:37.240 this stuff, like.

07:17:38.840 I see.

07:17:39.720 So if that's the case.

07:17:40.800 I wasn't hurt by it.

07:17:41.880 I was like, okay, I've been bullied.

07:17:43.260 You know what?

07:17:44.300 Fair enough.

07:17:44.940 It didn't have a long-term lasting effect on you.

07:17:47.540 I get it.

07:17:48.040 They don't know better.

07:17:48.260 Let me ask you this.

07:17:50.040 Yeah, yeah.

07:17:50.380 Let me ask you this, though.

07:17:52.280 If you didn't deserve it, which is what you're saying, it must have had some effect on you

07:17:57.460 because you remember that you didn't deserve it, right?

07:18:02.540 I said, yeah, me personally, it's not like I was the one, like, I did not live in the, 0.78

07:18:10.580 like, slave-owning days or do any shit like that. 0.79

07:18:14.860 Right. 0.96

07:18:15.460 So, I mean, you didn't deserve that.

07:18:16.780 But let us assume for a second it made all of those people who were racist towards you

07:18:22.540 feel better.

07:18:23.780 Do you think they should have been racist towards you?

07:18:27.460 It makes them feel better.

07:18:34.320 Yeah.

07:18:34.800 I mean, if it makes them feel better.

07:18:41.000 I really don't mind being someone's punching bag.

07:18:44.020 Perfect. 0.99

07:18:45.040 You have just justified anti-black racism by whites. 0.99

07:18:49.440 Ding, ding. 0.98

07:18:49.980 Good job.

07:18:50.780 You just justified it, saying they can do it because it makes them feel better.

07:18:55.180 And I think the white people are still doing it to them, so.

07:18:57.920 Yeah, but it's okay because it makes them feel better.

07:19:01.880 It's even.

07:19:03.720 How's it even?

07:19:05.380 If more white people feel better because there's more white people than there are black people 1.00

07:19:10.240 and it makes them feel better than, by your logic, they should be able to do it. 1.00

07:19:13.920 Generational trauma and, like, are oppressed as shit. 1.00

07:19:18.200 Yeah. 1.00

07:19:18.780 They're not the ones that are hurting from it.

07:19:21.060 So, we as white people aren't feeling better by being racist.

07:19:25.160 Wait.

07:19:25.180 I just want to, I do want to point out one thing here.

07:19:28.320 History shows that white people were slaves much longer than black people. 0.96

07:19:32.780 Yeah, and I'm actually Irish and Ashkenazi.

07:19:37.380 Okay, but, like, between, like, 1500 and 1750, there were, like, millions and millions

07:19:42.940 of white slaves.

07:19:44.160 Yeah.

07:19:44.540 Just saying.

07:19:45.080 I mean, our ancestors, my ancestors for sure were.

07:19:48.260 I did a 23andMe, but.

07:19:49.680 Word.

07:19:50.420 So.

07:19:51.360 Anyways, final thing on this, Andrew.

07:19:53.200 Otherwise, I do want to try to get things right up there.

07:19:55.000 So, I'm just saying, the final thing, you might want to, you might want to re-evaluate

07:19:58.860 whether or not people should be able to be racist towards you because it makes them feel

07:20:04.080 better.

07:20:04.600 That seems like a really bad position, which would actually justify, hang on, hang on,

07:20:08.900 let me finish.

07:20:09.480 We're moving in a better direction.

07:20:10.100 I'll give you the last word, hang on.

07:20:11.520 It's still hard, though.

07:20:12.640 Hang on.

07:20:13.520 Calm down.

07:20:14.600 You might want to re-evaluate it.

07:20:17.060 You don't seem calm.

07:20:18.600 But, yeah, anyway, you might want to re-evaluate that because you'll end up justifying racism.

07:20:24.240 That's what you'll end up doing, right?

07:20:27.000 You want a final word or?

07:20:29.140 Final word.

07:20:29.860 Go ahead.

07:20:30.300 Do you want a final word?

07:20:31.320 I'm saying that all that stuff, it wasn't that long ago.

07:20:35.980 So, the tension is still there, and I think that we're moving away from racism, and I

07:20:40.260 think that's a great thing.

07:20:41.240 I'm not trying to justify racism.

07:20:43.220 I simply said, I think racism is more of a prejudice and power thing.

07:20:46.880 Navigating patterns donated $50.

07:20:49.080 In Beauty and the Beast, how useful is the Beast transformation capable of building a

07:20:55.120 good society despite his lack of cooperation in Bell World?

07:20:59.260 In Salgaston, proven to the townspeople be better?

07:21:06.040 Was that a roast?

07:21:07.460 Ganwit90 donated $25.

07:21:09.520 Brian, check out the examples used on the Women's Rating Guide in about section of subreddit

07:21:15.860 r slash true eratim rating as a metric of rating looks more objectively.

07:21:20.560 Can you DM it to me?

07:21:21.220 They cover all ethnicities.

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07:21:27.760 Andrew, is she savable or is the indoctrination too deep at this point?

07:21:32.120 Uh, I think he's gone.

07:21:35.520 I don't know.

07:21:36.600 Uh, he's gone, man.

07:21:37.880 Sorry.

07:21:38.440 Sorry, Stacey.

07:21:39.420 Black Phoenix donated $25.

07:21:41.540 I'll try to replay it.

07:21:42.600 We are not the sins of our fathers.

07:21:44.040 Is he back?

07:21:44.840 Why would I punish or think lower of you when you had nothing to do with it?

07:21:49.300 Stop living in the past you didn't live in.

07:21:53.420 Okay.

07:21:54.460 Stacey for Senate donated $25.

07:21:57.620 In 1838, most Mormons were white.

07:22:00.440 In 1838, Governor Wade Boggs of Missouri signed the Mormon Extermination Act, Executive Order 44.

07:22:08.800 State-sanctioned genocide on U.S. soil against whites.

07:22:12.740 Okay.

07:22:13.920 Josh donated $25.

07:22:16.660 Purple Elliot again, just saw you like black guys, geez. 1.00

07:22:21.580 Just say.

07:22:22.300 I think he meant to say just say.

07:22:23.960 And then while you're gone, Andrew, this one from Stacey came through.

07:22:27.860 Stacey for Senate donated $25.

07:22:32.220 Andrew, is she savable or is the indoctrination too deep at this point?

07:22:37.740 Too deep.

07:22:39.320 All right.

07:22:40.060 With that said, I want to do another quick thank you to the panel.

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07:22:47.420 Fat boy doesn't compete in blood sports.

07:22:50.060 More like milk squirts. 1.00

07:22:51.640 Pull up your shirt and tell me you're fucking proud of that shit. 1.00

07:22:55.760 Big old titties. 1.00

07:22:57.520 Tits. 1.00

07:22:58.800 Lactation. 0.99

07:22:59.500 Oh my gosh. 1.00

07:23:00.920 I'll smack your fat ass. 1.00

07:23:02.660 They're really going after you, Brian. 1.00

07:23:04.400 What happened? 0.99

07:23:05.100 Sounds like he likes the titties. 0.98

07:23:06.500 No, they're not going after me. 0.98

07:23:06.760 They're going after Andrew.

07:23:07.840 Oh, Andrew.

07:23:08.480 Poor Andrew.

07:23:09.180 All right, guys.

07:23:09.540 Okay.

07:23:09.900 Well, they're upset that I don't shave my arms.

07:23:11.840 That's what, yeah.

07:23:12.840 It's the whole...

07:23:13.600 You got Yeti arms?

07:23:15.440 Yeah, they're pretty upset.

07:23:16.960 Apparently, real men shave their arms, apparently.

07:23:19.920 All right, guys.

07:23:20.780 Like the video.

07:23:21.340 Please don't enjoy it.

07:23:21.600 And go to prison.

07:23:22.280 And they go to prison, too.

07:23:23.240 All right, guys.

07:23:23.700 That's what I'm told.

07:23:25.320 Thank you guys for tuning in.

07:23:26.620 We're going to do a rate over to Andrew.

07:23:28.060 Drop him a follow.

07:23:29.080 Oh, let me just skip this chat.

07:23:30.700 Drop him a subscribe over there on YouTube.

07:23:33.140 Old man marine donated $25.

07:23:36.600 Purple hair, this is your daddy.

07:23:38.660 That was the last one.

07:23:39.200 Have I not taught you that two wrongs don't make a right?

07:23:42.800 SMH, you'll get your spankings when you come home. 1.00

07:23:45.680 There it is.

07:23:46.400 All right.

07:23:47.300 Cool.

07:23:48.360 All right, guys.

07:23:48.800 Thank you for tuning in tonight.

07:23:50.660 We're going to raid Andrew over there on YouTube.

07:23:53.020 Drop him a subscribe.

07:23:54.580 07's in the chat.

07:23:57.440 Sorry, guys.

07:23:58.680 I'm frazzled.

07:23:59.720 It's a long show.

07:24:00.980 Okay.

07:24:01.600 Good night, guys.

07:24:02.320 We'll see you on Tuesday.

07:24:03.820 Good night.

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Whatever Podcast - June 10, 2024

Armpit Hair Feminist HEATED DEBATE？! 100+ Body Count？! MASSIVE COPE？! E-GIRLS! ｜ Dating Talk #168

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