Armpit Hair Feminist HEATED DEBATE?! 100+ Body Count?! MASSIVE COPE?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #168
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Summary
In this episode of the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, we have special guest Bobby Lavender join us live from Santa Barbara, CA! Bobby is a part-time adult content creator, full-time cam model, and full time writer.
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be calling in a little bit later he was supposed to be with us from the get-go but uh something came
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up so just stay tuned for andrew he will be calling in a little bit later on also i don't know if you
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guys see this thing right there right this thing i don't know if any of you are uh 90s nostalgia people
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so if you know someone you have it i'll buy it off you for a uh reasonable price anyways disclaimer
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the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel with that
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said and without further ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us
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your name age location and occupation go ahead hello my name is bobby lavender i'm 30 years old
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just turned 30 okay all right i live in louisiana i'd rather not say what part particularly um i am
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wait what was the questions again name age location and occupation oh that part um i've been oh sorry
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i've been on only fans for like four years now basically since pandemic and i also that's full
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time and i part-time cam model on my free cams and you're 30 right how long have you been involved
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uh with the uh adult content stuff since i moved out at 19 okay so for most of your working life then
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yeah i've not well my first ever job before i was even 18 i was a janitor oh okay and i sold drawfish
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too it's louisiana you know like a janitor for a school or an office okay an office like it was
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actually a pest control office okay what about you hi i am tavia i'm 22 and i'm from pennsylvania
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and i'm a freelance model and i do only fans all right welcome what about you hi my name is alissa
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i'm 27 and i'm a realtor in austin and i have a bunch of like side hustles too like grocery delivery
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nannying stuff like that all right what about you my name is sky i'm from san diego california
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and i'm an environmental health specialist age i'm 24 all right environmental health specialist what's
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that um so i am like a health inspector but i don't do food inspections i do like chemical inspections
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so okay so what like a typical day on the job are you just going to different locations doing
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inspections making sure there's not like any uh sulfuric acid yeah that they're not going to blow
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up uh on a given any given day so yeah all right what about you i'm juliette i am from denver
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colorado i'm 38 and i work in marketing all right welcome i'm corinne i'm 45 years old i live in west
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hollywood and i am a writer comedian and podcaster okay maddie you can introduce my name is madison
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i'm 19 years old i'm from san diego i now live in santa barbara i work for the whatever podcast
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and i'm a student at santa barbara city college all right welcome everybody uh so guys sorry we were
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a little late there we had uh two uh we had some people flake and then we had the no show uh just
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i could get into the details of the bullshittery that you got to deal with behind the scenes but
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anyways so we're down down about two seats but it's all good we have a very fantastic panel
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regardless so going around the table once more what's everybody's current relationship status
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are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married polycule sex
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cold harem whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest
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relationship you've ever been in starting with you i'm in a relation i'm in a monogamous
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ish relationship now for three years and um i'm so addd the longest well this is my longest
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relationship long okay this is your longest and you said it's open ish what does that mean
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well since i like create content sometimes i collab and i'm also pretty open like in the right
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circumstances with the right boundaries sorry with the right circumstances and with the right
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boundaries and like communication like i'm also okay with my man seeing other people or us having
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like three swims in order okay so you you're saying like when you shoot content you'll shoot content with
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other men i've only done with other men four times and it was for a only four times only four times it
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was for a company like a mainstream company and that's the first time i ever tried that and i
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i will not be doing it again okay and then like necessarily a bad experience it's just not for me
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and then outside of work are you uh like are you sleeping with other men outside of work oh no i don't want
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to but your boyfriend he's sleeping with other women no he isn't i mean one time um my friend and it was
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cool but um it's not like a regular you're gonna leave that up forever nick or what i'm hearing
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some static uh it's not terrible okay hold on pull up the chat please yeah pull up the chat
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uh guys are do you guys hear any uh like audio issues or anything you guys hearing any audio issues
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one sec guys we're just going to troubleshoot this audio thing so
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uh can my mods just message me and tell me if you guys are hearing static it stopped maybe it was
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from fucking this thing i'm fucking i got it i got a goddamn
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wait you want to test it it's what are this it's called a tesla coil or it's a uh plasma
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yeah i think it's plasma i think the plasma was like
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okay it should be better pull up the chat let me just double
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wait hold on let's do a little test let me put the shit right next to the fucking
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did you guys hear that oh wait i don't know if that's i don't
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is it worse now okay i don't know i don't hear whatever anyways uh i forgot where we were
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i'm not seeing any other guys i'm more interested in my like my relationship with my man i don't want
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to see other guys but i'm bisexual so i like seeing other women my preference for collabs is
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other women like i said when i'm like orchestrating it myself it's always other women or trans women
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and then the only time i did with men was for a
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main okay and is he seeing he's not seeing anyone like i said we're monogamish
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there's certain circumstances so you guys have threesomes
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we actually haven't had that yet oh i thought you mentioned something about threesomes
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i would be cool with it yeah did anybody else hear that yeah i said like i well no i think i
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mentioned it earlier but i would be cool with it we plan on doing it you haven't had we actually
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live like kind of in the middle of nowhere louisiana so we have to travel to like make
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work like to for me okay what about you um i'm talking to someone right now talking stage
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my longest relationship was a year um what am i missing how long have you uh how long has the
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talking stage been going on uh almost three months now three months okay and before that were you uh
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did you consider yourself single or before that yeah i've been single for since november
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sal brian sarva donated 69 dollars as always maddie is a 10. welcome back helmet girl brian i'm happy
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you're using the old intro where you introduce yourself it flows nicely and much more elegant
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hello ladies i don't know if i ever stopped doing yeah you did stop i noticed what do you mean i
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stopped like lately you weren't saying i forgot no i changed i so i changed it a little bit
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but but it wasn't i'm pretty sure well uh in any case thank you man appreciate the uh tts thank you
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dude uh salut so you were saying you've been single for since november november okay uh talking
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stage three months how did you guys meet uh we met in miami into the mic kindly you guys met in
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miami uh so in person it wasn't like from a dating app or anything like that in person okay and so
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and remind me you live also in miami or in pennsylvania oh pennsylvania so this is a long distance
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talking stage so how often do you see him uh it really depends on like what my work schedule looks
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like but i try to see him at least once a month maybe i'll just come to la for like a week or two
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when's the last time you saw him uh about a month ago okay one month ago and do you want this to be
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more than a talking stage have you guys had like a convo about title or anything yeah we're just getting
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to know each other and taking it wait so yeah you have had a conversation about title
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um yeah but we're just getting to know each other and like we're just in that stage right now like
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going on dates seeing what's up who initiated that conversation about what is this title him or you
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uh neither i think it's just been like mutual like just talking getting to know each other and
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but you said there was a conversation about what is this are we boyfriend girlfriends i guess it was
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me it was you and then you said we're just seeing where things are going well i was saying i was
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interested but i just want more time to kind of you do or he does me i do so then why did you ask
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for a title i didn't ask for a title but you had the conversation right the potential of it and that
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i'm interested in going forward what did he say when you brought that up he was interested as well
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he was interested in like being boyfriend and girlfriend using each other okay well okay see each
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other and seeing where it goes so so you said i want did you say anything like i want something more
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serious um no oh okay so how specifically did you phrase this conversation well it's kind of
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complicated because i was like okay i really like you and was impulsive and i was like i think we
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should date and then i went home and i was like oh that was impulsive and i want i need more time to
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like get to know you so let's actually go backwards backwards spend more time
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okay meets the rush titles you're so young right so i mean kind of sounds like you want a little bit
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more than he does would you is that fair to say i don't know i think it's definitely equal it's
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definitely equal it's an equal but it's more of me like me being hesitant like not being completely
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sure yet if i want that yet so okay what about you um so technically i'm legally separated but i
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consider myself single so you're legally married then yes okay well but no actually i'm legally
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separated uh like i moved from the house so like when i filed taxes and stuff it's but you're not
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divorced no but soon you're you're in the process of getting a divorce but you're still
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not yet divorced right uh so and is this a pretty recent occurrence okay so um sort of i mean i
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officially filed in february um i wanted out of my marriage the last several years and made it very
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obvious but texas will not finalize divorces when you're pregnant and i was pregnant for two years in a
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row so then i had to like recover and everything i in december is when i was like okay i'm getting
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out of here one way or another and i didn't get the money to do so until february and then i moved
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out in march but he's just like dodged being served and which is crazy because he's like he's seeing
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somebody and i've talked to people since and stuff um so i don't know why his girlfriend is not like
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sign the papers but yeah and wait so how long uh when did you meet him at what age did you meet him
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i was 22 and you're 27 currently is correct yes so you were uh how long are you married for
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three years three years so you were dating for like two years got married and how old are your kids
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one and two one and two okay and why uh you you're you initiated the divorce or yes okay why um
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so i have to be a little bit careful just because we do have children and i don't want to ever like
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negatively impact their view of their dad should he ever decide to have a relationship with them
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um but you know he i'm i know everybody thinks they know a narcissist any asshole is not a narcissist
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they have a very specific playbook and i'm i believe and my therapist believes though she can't
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like officially diagnose someone who's not her client that he has npd so all of the things associated
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with that were were issues okay but i just don't want my kids to ever watch this maybe one day and then
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be like you know because if they can have a good relationship with him i would like to protect
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them from all that um in terms of the custody of the children do you guys share or are they just
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with you or when i filed for divorce he stopped having anything to do with him
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six thousand nine hundred and sixty nine blah blah blah sixty nine donated sixty nine dollars
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yep my sprinkler be like oh that's a different one there you go look at that she's doing the look at
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that's when i motorboat empty gold teeters it be like a
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wow that's good that thank you man appreciate it oh we got another one coming in big labia
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disrespect a donated sixty nine dollars never argue with stupid people they will drag you down to
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their level and then beat you with experience that's true andrew shave your arms madison wink into
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the camera bobby show us your armpit hair who the hell yeah you can't you can okay i just had to
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oh oh okay there you go um nice okay donated one hundred dollars i think one person identified as
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bisexual to the panel would you consider being with a man who is bisexual if not why not yeah we'll go
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around on this really quick uh would you be with a man who's bisexual yes and i have
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uh i'm bisexual and no uh so if no why not uh no because i don't know i just feel like if someone's
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sticking their dick in someone's butt and then come and have sex with me then it'll probably cause
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problems now what's worse though being on the receiving end or being what is it the top or bottom
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yeah the pitcher and the catcher so but you're what's interesting it's actually interesting here
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you're you're by yourself right a little bit of a double standard don't you think maybe but i don't
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do anal lol paladins donated sixty nine dollars oh wow you let him hit it raw you didn't have
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second thoughts now you're a single mom now you're a single mom song related to guests of course it's a
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song okay thank you i did let my husband hit it raw that's true it's very true the husband yeah the
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husband husband that i've been with for two years before we had kids okay uh thank you lol paladins
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wait so what if he was he was not putting his p in the a but he was getting d in the b
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that's the same thing because you're you said i wouldn't do it because i don't want a guy who's
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putting his p in the a but what if he's getting d in the b does that change anything
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um uh i don't know i don't know no comment no comment so no to both then if the guy's bi
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just no no but you're bi no why i guess it's different but it's interesting what about you
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no i would not be with a bisexual man yes i have been before okay uh oh why why not for you i want
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a man who wants everything that i am um and yeah it's just no i want a man who's a masculine man
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and attracted to women what if he's a masculine man and attracted to women on the weekends he
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beaten cheeks donated 69 dollars thank you ladies i'm in my soft guy ear of the drizzle drizzle dude
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whoever makes 500k a year own a home have a car pays for the first date and will pay my bills along
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with my seasonal suits holler at me drizzle drizzle drizzle drizzle i'll do that for you
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my husband literally made 500k a year if you can't lay it down it's a no i love hard pass do you
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have a romantic interest in beaten cheeks oh i have no idea but i'm just saying like if he makes five
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i don't care how much no we don't care how much because my husband made 500k and i still divorced
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him still still divorced wait no i thought i wanted that from the woman and no yeah that's how it
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oh he wants it he wants cheeks i didn't know that's uh all right okay he wants to be a sugar
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he's in a soft guy yeah you want to be a stay-at-home dad well come over and you know sit
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on my lap would you be with a bi guy i have no judgment about it but i personally would not
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i have in the past i didn't know they were until much later but it didn't bother me
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okay it's all the same to me no absolutely no okay all right there you go there you go uh we
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were talking a little bit about your marriage slash divorce now i'll actually just pull up my
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notes here really quick actually you know what we'll come back to it but your position is that
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your soon-to-be ex-husband he is was a narcissist is that correct okay um and uh have you so how long
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have you guys been separated um so he left the house in february which is when i filed and the
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last time we had any contact was maybe early march like he was still trying to get me back january
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february and like into march a little bit um but you moved out in february no i moved out in march
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i filed for divorce in february but how long were you checked out for
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the whole marriage like two years i tried to file for divorce during my first pregnancy
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oh wow okay and so have in terms of dating though have you been uh dating at all yeah i was seeing
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one guy for a little bit and um he's just too young i saw your instagram story last night it didn't work
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out um but i'm not like talking to anybody really right now we're just gonna ignore that uh wait what
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did i put on there i don't know you were i guess you guys got into santa barbara early and you're
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like oh there's a lot of tall attractive guys oh my god there is here in santa barbara tall guys
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with glasses oof okay uh you guys get lucky last night no i don't have like casual hookups okay uh
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so have you had like any uh like a short-term thing with any guys yeah yeah yeah after my husband i
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started dating a comedian dude yeah yeah and he was a year younger no not a rebound not a rebound
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was there a rebound no no rebound no no it's just someone that i met through a mutual friend and i
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was like oh i really like you but now does your husband does he pay child support he has well okay
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so he's not going to be legally ordered to until we go to court okay so that's in the works it's in
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the works but he has not for okay the first month when i was still at the house and he still thought
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maybe i would stay and like change my mind he was sending them like me like a hundred dollars a
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week so brian savah donated sixty nine dollars i would ask maddie's coom off of frankie's d just
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to know how she tastes why did you know it's already read out it's uh too late i missed it all right
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y'all crazy bro y'all crazy okay um yeah so he was sending like a hundred dollars for
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wait how much how much does he make a year five hundred thousand dollars
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did you guys have a prenup no no prenup no but i mean like honestly in texas the men are pretty
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protected or whoever makes the most money or owned a home first like there's protections in place
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there anyway were you making any money while you guys were together yes okay in real estate yeah
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you also did you do dancing too were you a dancer not while i was married i was a dancer in my young
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adult life but not ever at any point when i was with my husband not with him okay uh and so
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no prenup you guys are getting divorced is he i don't know if how this works in texas but
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does he have to do you have a lawyer i do does he have to pay for your lawyer um we're gonna request
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it you're gonna request and he's gonna have to pay back child support from the time that i left
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since he hasn't sent any except the first month he hasn't sent the money talk to them are there
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child support minimums there are yeah the maximum would be 2300 for two kids and i'm assuming given
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that he makes 500 000 he's probably obligated to pay the maximum is that correct yes okay it's good
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that they have a maximum though i suppose uh so uh okay so you've been kind of dating a little bit
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here and there you're in the process of getting divorced and we'll get into some of the details
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of the relationship a little bit later on what about you i am single i've always been single
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always been single always been single but uh i had like an e-relationship for like three days
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to those who know they know okay what is an e-relationship so you never met in person no we
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never met in person we were talking on discord for like three years you know what he looks like
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or was it just like an anime no i know exactly what he looks like it wasn't ai generated wait you guys
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were like dating for three years for three days oh three days yeah we had been talking for three
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years friends damn that's a lot of i don't know man that sounds like a lot of work it was a lot of
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work and i had to put in like he was he was broke bro you sent the money no i didn't send him money
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oh okay but he was so why did it only last for three days um the reason why was because i had been
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acting a little bit crazy because i had gone on shrooms and i took like way too many shrooms
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uh went to a psych ward uh word um then i was having like i don't know how to describe it but i was
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having really bad like uh expression of myself like i was saying things out of turn and i think
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it became too much for him and so wait did you get 51 50'd what the what's that uh three day
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it's a three day 51 50 yeah involuntary uh psychiatric hold yeah i like blew the doors off
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the ambulance damn with with a firearm with my hands like wait what no like i blew the doors open
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and okay so wait were you just on shrooms yeah i was just on shrooms but i drugs kids don't do drugs
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uh you know it's not the um you had that special ed strength no but i took like so this comedian had
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given me a bunch of shrooms and i just took them all at once because i thought you know the universe
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was pointing point pointing me towards donated 69 dollars yeah thank you i make 450k yearly but you
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have to pay me to lay it down word if you want to dm me you need to send one thousand dollars via
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drizzle drizzle dude what's that being cheeks i'm sure you'd love that chris brown song it's like
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fuck what how's it go you know uh these hos ain't loyal how's it go uh you just said it
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what what no but what's the uh the lyric it's like wait something about broke bitches anybody know
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the lyrics to that bitch rich but i don't date but i don't fuck with broke bitches there we go madison
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she knows the lyrics she's a chris brown fan um all right so thank you be in cheeks appreciate it
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so okay let's okay you you did some shrooms cool yeah get it freaked out psychiatric hold
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committed to a psych hospital uh do you take any um any medication for like oh yeah i guess yeah i'm
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on mood stabilizers now and anti-anxiety stuff so well i've been any psychotropic antidepressants
00:30:44.540
not uh not psychotropic okay okay i think that would just exacerbate any have you been diagnosed
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with anything like uh bipolar no nothing like that okay so in terms of your relationship though you
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said you've been single your entire life yeah and you're 24 so what's i guess the longest period of
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time like have you ever dated somebody in person um not really have you been on a date yeah i've been
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on dates what have you been on multiple dates with the same person um yeah i would say uh i've been
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on like five dates with one person but it was a rebound situation i was the rebound and he wasn't
00:31:23.200
looking for a relationship okay so what's the longest period of time you've seen a guy was it that guy
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five date guy yeah it was the five date guy and that was like what a month it was like three months
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but he still talks to me he he tries to still to smash yeah still tries to smash okay still tries
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to smash so single your whole life your longest thing was three months um and so have you done like
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more casual type stuff like casual hookups yeah okay for the most part not all right but and are you
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desirous of something more serious something long term yes i'm waiting until marriage for what
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to have sex yeah for sex are you a virgin no don't you think that ship has sailed you can decide at
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any time i can you can decide i can read like because okay i feel like anytime a girl starts having sex
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it's like i don't know that's just an experience x4x blasi donated 69 dollars ladies you're out in
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open sea on a raft would you rather have a man with you or a great white shark circling you
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open sea on the raft obviously i would like to be with a man or a great white shark
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um yeah man man's great a man obviously a random man it's not so obvious i would take a random man
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yeah definitely a dude man okay uh so going back to this yeah um so so you're you're waiting until
00:33:11.800
are you religious a little i've been reading the bible a lot more recently okay do you do you have
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a denomination a christian i mean like are you protestant orthodox catholic okay i have a question
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if that's okay okay so you're not a virgin no i'm not a virgin but now you want to wait until marriage
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um yeah for the most part okay you do realize that doing that you're setting yourself up for failure
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right because you don't know what you're getting into you don't know if you have any sexual chemistry
00:33:44.760
you're gonna get with this dude and find out that he's not tooting your own well so the i believe that
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you can like teach people and you're in favor of teaching people you said it outside teach the young
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ones so that's true same concept so i yeah definitely if someone my main concern now is a relationship and
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not like i was willing and i am willing now as i've gotten older to like put sex on the back burner
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and i don't think a lot of women are willing to do that um you don't think sex is an important
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component no i definitely do but question if the guy has a schmeckle and it's not able to get you know
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get you off then what i mean i've been masturbating my whole life so right so that means you're going to
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be with the dude you're going to marry a guy spend the rest of your life with him masturbating no
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well then so that's what i'm saying is truly based on love then i mean and sex is wait okay wait i
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don't know yet if waiting until marriage includes all sexual acts banana lover 123 donated 69 dollars
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like i don't panels have been awful lately and this looks like another horrible one where is andrew
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he's the only thing making this show interesting lately sounds like somebody has a crush right
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stop projecting a little crush andrew's gonna be doing a call in a little bit later on uh he will
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be calling in but if uh it's popping right now we're just getting warmed up relax take a chill
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if i mean you're welcome to honestly you're welcome to unsubscribe from the channel like i don't give a
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fuck okay um we had some flakes it is what it is dude uh we had no shows so uh back to what i was
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saying i don't know if waiting until marriage includes all sexual acts so i would know based on
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certain things like second base if he's but size is like not the concern like i know sex is very
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important okay i've known but it's not the priority for me right now size matters when it's size matters
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when it's a micro for sure if you're with any audio no she is i'm good i'm still checking wait okay i don't
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know what is going on but okay um i mean would you be with a guy who has a micro a micro peen i mean
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shit exactly you'd probably know i have already been yeah how it looks how it looks how it yeah here let
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me ask you a question uh so you've had sex already yeah but now you're waiting until marriage uh can i ask
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like have you had a one night stand no you've never slept with a guy the same night you met him no
00:36:34.740
uh second night third um most of my hookups have been from dating apps so i probably like third night
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third night okay i mean and do you want to date a christian guy i'm not really picky um it says in
00:36:55.540
the bible that like if you date someone or like you marry someone that has faith then you're saved
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and if uh like a man or a woman it doesn't matter have you been so have you been celibate for a while
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yeah how long have you been celibate for uh right now uh two years and then previously i did another
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two years before i met the five dates guy all right well it's not the worst i've heard but uh and
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look you're if a woman had previously slept with 100 men on the first date and she decides after
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doing that that she wants to wait until she's married to have sex with her what would be her
00:37:37.900
101st partner that's her prerogative from the guy's perspective if i were to be advising like a male
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friend if that would be an acceptable dynamic she's she can do it i would just tell him you
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shouldn't date her so are you seeing it women are welcome to switch up you could have been doing sex
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work only fans sleeping with a new guy every single day of the week you can switch up and be like well
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i'm going to wait until marriage now but you're you're able to do it but men are also allowed to feel
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like that's kind of a raw deal and this is not a woman that i want to pursue yeah i mean i can
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totally understand that especially from the perspective of like if i'm with a guy that's
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like actually like good for me and i'm holding out or withholding sex from him then he might not be
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as enthused by it but salu brian sarva donated 69 brian banana lover boy is wrong what separates you
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from fnf and other dating podcasts is whatever isn't ratchet and unprofessional keep up the good
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all right thank you man i think we're gonna we are now gonna boost the uh tts trigger back up to the
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normal so that should be switched uh appreciate all of you guys who sent some in the trigger should be
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bumped back up so go ahead with your point i definitely believe that like okay so i am willing
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to compromise on the waiting until marriage but it's really situation based um it's not something
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it's something that i recently came to terms with like after the shrooms it's been within the past like
00:39:30.860
four months that i was like okay i feel like i want to wait until marriage but that's um
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something that i'm willing to like compromise on or kind of well it's it's more so me just
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enforcing a boundary that i haven't enforced before of saying okay i want to withhold or wait to have
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sex with people before so that i can feel chemistry with them and not convolute it with sex because sex
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will convolute any chemistry that you have and it'll ruin the potential of a good relationship can i ask you
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question what if there was a scenario where you meet a guy and could you imagine a scenario where
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for example you meet a guy that he's not inclined to wait until marriage but let's say you do have sex
00:40:14.740
with him he really likes you you guys get into a long-term relationship you guys end up dating for
00:40:19.580
one or two years sex is great you guys love each other monogamous relationship he now ends up proposing
00:40:27.420
to you you guys get married you get the man okay so like a great but so but by let's say in this
00:40:37.340
scenario he knows exactly what he's looking for in a relationship and that's a sexual relationship
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okay and that would potentially close the door on a guy who would could otherwise end up being your
00:40:50.180
future husband life partner any thoughts on that like i said i'm willing to compromise so if it's
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really important to him then i'm expecting him to communicate that to him to me like i really need
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sex in a relationship and i would completely understand that and i would sympathize with it
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because i'm like i am someone who wants sex too but i'm also someone who in the past has made
00:41:18.200
irresponsible decisions when i was younger and i didn't want i don't want to like so you would
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like to wait until marriage but if presented with an attractive enough partner you would
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does that sound like can i can i make that decision is that like greedy or what it sounds selfish
00:41:37.760
okay but everyone's selfish i think you're totally valid does anybody what what is what's the panel's
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thoughts on the whole like well you've had sex with 20 people i'm not saying that's the case for
00:41:50.220
you but you've had sex 20 30 40 people first night second night third night then prince charming comes
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along and oh hold on i gave it to the fuck boys right instantly but the guy who's actually ought to be
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deserving of sexual access you get to wait your thoughts on that panel go ahead i think that anybody
00:42:11.540
is can change like drug addicts get sober all the time people get saved and sure so i think people
00:42:16.920
can genuinely decide uh i'm going to be reborn in one way or another and that's valid but um if the
00:42:23.740
partner comes along and he can't respect her boundaries on that then he's not meant for her to begin with
00:42:28.720
it's an incompatibility issue at that point and you will find somebody who will respect that and you
00:42:34.120
shouldn't just let you shouldn't just let anybody make you change your mind on what you morally think
00:42:40.240
is right yeah and a man who is prince charming won't try to force you to yeah that's just my take
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and i don't think it's about i don't think he would force her he would just uh just walk out he would
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just he's entitled to do that good good uh any thoughts from you i agree sir i think we're just all
00:43:00.980
very sexual beings especially men and i mean that's a pretty hard that's a hard sell i think for most
00:43:08.700
guys but i do see like i like this is totally a valid point and that's what i was going to say
00:43:15.300
first is that like people can change and like my promiscuity used to be higher and now i really don't
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have a desire for men can confirm at all besides mine right women obviously different story but
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like i'm not saying that women shouldn't change for the better can't change for the better but
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it's like don't expect men to accept your past because we also have a right of discernment and
00:43:44.540
judgment just as you do so that's totally fair too and i mean i can see why it seems weird but
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it's also like i'm not gonna judge i'm not as judgmental of the guy if he's made a decision
00:43:58.440
whatever decision like informed by his past experiences at least from the male perspective
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it's one thing like if she's a virgin or like that's always been her standard right maybe not
00:44:14.960
like the marriage thing but she's like okay well i want to wait until we're in like a serious long-term
00:44:19.380
relationship she's only been with one two three other guys that she always waited like one two three
00:44:25.120
months before having sex but i think it's just like the switch up of like the shifting in values
00:44:30.540
because i think one of the concerns that might be the case maybe not marriage but let's say a girl
00:44:36.320
wants to wait three months to have sex it's like okay did you do that for the last guy and then
00:44:42.480
what about the guy that's gonna probably be after me yeah because like that's the that's the crazy
00:44:47.040
thing is like when a girl's like oh i want to i've got a 60 day rule and then like they've never
00:44:53.520
enforced it but they've never enforced can i say something really quick i actually have a friend who
00:44:58.180
just even with her boyfriend her current boyfriend um like they've hooked up plenty of times and then she
00:45:04.140
was like you know what i'm gonna go back to jesus and they're both very attractive people he's a very
00:45:08.620
attractive guy and he's actually respecting her going celibate oh wait so they're they were dating
00:45:13.620
yes oh this is interesting they are still dating i've heard about this a little bit but okay so
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they're dating they were dating they were having sex she became religious found jesus not interesting
00:45:23.780
and then so they were having sex they're still together but then she's like let's not have sex
00:45:29.940
anymore yeah she's like morally i just feel like god's putting it on my heart to like wait until
00:45:34.080
marriage and he actually is going along with it yeah i mean i hope you i hope that's i mean
00:45:41.400
if you're watching hillary that's brave if is he intending to marry her how long they've been together
00:45:45.920
oh i don't know like maybe a year they live together they have a really healthy relationship
00:45:51.420
he's cheating no he doesn't i promise he's not i mean he would be a hundred i mean i don't trust
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anybody but i he's not cheating on her it would be a hundred percent pretext for a breakup he would
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be a hundred percent in the right to break up with yeah like if he decided he wanted to i'm not saying
00:46:06.700
it's not valid he also seems to be uh if he's okay with it i mean i suppose that's fine but
00:46:12.400
yeah i mean everybody's gonna have different standards but i don't i think it's fair if men are
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like you know what i'm not cool with this but not all men are gonna be that way i've had i've actually
00:46:22.380
had one or two similar experiences to that sort of but like earlier on which has been very peculiar
00:46:29.080
so i've had like i've hooked up once twice three times with girl and then she's like ah can we like
00:46:34.660
pump the brakes can we and like that's not like that's not a good look nope just like yeah i don't know
00:46:45.040
isn't it though dependent on the guy and his tolerance well no no this is what it is this is i
00:46:51.440
this is my uh this is what i think it is in that situation is that so hooked up the girls and then
00:46:59.260
they're like oh i don't know like they still want to date me but they're like ah i feel like we moved
00:47:04.920
too quick you know i think it's that they want to they want to leverage it into a long-term relationship
00:47:12.860
but at that point the cat's out of the fucking bat and i just feel like that's way too much like
00:47:18.420
carrot on the stick it's way too much you trying to like withhold or leverage sex because it was
00:47:23.520
never we already hooked up now you want to reel it back to try to get me into a long-term relationship
00:47:30.020
so those invariably i was just like weird if it's for religious reasons i can understand it but
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i mean i mean and i think everybody has a right to their own body and what they want to do but
00:47:39.140
that that situation is a little bit less like i don't understand it as much as if they have like
00:47:44.160
some moral obligation that they it makes sense to me if a woman is trying to pursue a long-term
00:47:50.160
relationship as her primary prerogative because that's how we biologically are wired we want
00:47:55.160
stability for our potential offspring and if we are making decisions based off of that like i think
00:48:06.740
most women have the sense that like if they're going to get into a long-term relationship with
00:48:10.820
somebody okay uh so anyways um let's get your relationship status i am properly single um i was
00:48:20.720
in a seven-year relationship that ended in 2020 and um yeah i've taken the last four years to work on
00:48:28.300
friendships and my business and i haven't really dated at all so so single for four years you're dating
00:48:35.940
for seven so from like uh your late 20s to mid 30s you guys were dating 38 now so yeah that ended when
00:48:44.380
i was 34 okay and is that your longest relationship you've had so you've been single for four years
00:48:50.840
you've been and you said no dating no celibate yeah for four years yes damn
00:48:58.660
all right wow okay celibate for four nothing not even a rebound no rebound no oh okay all right good
00:49:09.520
for you and uh okay why did your relationship end um there were a lot of value differences in the
00:49:18.420
beginning okay that i was aware of but i just kind of ignored um he's not a bad person but um yeah there
00:49:25.440
was some huge value discrepancies that i just kind of like turned a blind eye to and that was totally
00:49:30.340
on me and it just got to the point where i think as i continue to grow and mature as a person it was
00:49:36.420
just not it was not doable for me anymore and um i think that if there's some really big core value
00:49:42.880
differences like that's not something that like counseling or talking it out can really change
00:49:47.420
um i'm also not really interested in changing the man that i love and i want to be with
00:49:52.540
so it just got to the point where out of my out of respect for myself and for him i was like
00:49:57.060
this is not how i want to live the rest of my life and you know while i still have some youth and
00:50:01.860
fitness and looks and health i'd like to like find someone who is who's right for me so so did you end
00:50:08.140
things i did okay all right and so okay single for four years ended things in person or was it like a
00:50:19.560
text message oh definitely in person we were living together later okay got it yeah what about you i'm
00:50:25.300
married for 10 years and uh i'm proud to say actually that i married my first or no not first
00:50:31.860
one he was a one night one night stand so i married a one night stand he was supposed to be a one night
00:50:36.620
stand and it turned into a 10-year relationship so oh there you go was he a tender no he was a person
00:50:42.700
i met in real life wait so married for 10 years but how long were you together before uh married
00:50:48.400
um about a year and a half okay so together for about like 11 12 years yeah okay got it we're
00:50:54.700
coming on 12 years together all right and he was a one night stand how did you get you guys met at the
00:50:59.540
club no we met in alaska we were both working up in alaska yeah okay we were selling jewelry for
00:51:06.160
different companies and here's the funny thing so this guy that i met he was the friend of a guy
00:51:13.100
who i was already hooking up with in alaska because in alaska there's very very little to do you're
00:51:17.980
working 12 to 14 hours a day and then afterwards you're drinking or fucking that's literally the
00:51:22.680
only two things to do in alaska i'm sure a lot of people are fucking the same people yeah exactly
00:51:26.460
it's a very small and the town that we were in was literally four streets wide 20 streets long
00:51:33.340
you could walk the whole town in 45 minutes what town that's why they call it eskimo um skagway
00:51:37.580
alaska so skagway yes and um there's a lot of skags that way okay well what what prompted the whole
00:51:45.560
thing was the guy who i was seeing him and i had kind of like we the attraction just wasn't there
00:51:52.140
anymore because we had hooked up the first time i'd gone up to alaska and it just fizzled out so when
00:51:56.860
we came back up we tried to reconnect again it just wasn't working so i met his friend
00:52:02.720
and and i didn't like him at first but um we had made an agreement the guy who i was with
00:52:08.500
like i'm not gonna sleep with any of your friends you don't sleep with anyone i find out he slept
00:52:12.800
with one of my friends so i had to sleep with one of his revenge is revenge so you know but it turned
00:52:19.720
into something a lot bigger than i thought and the craziest part of the story is this is crazy
00:52:24.740
i love it i was working with his mom before i met him i didn't know that it was her son when i was
00:52:32.580
dating him so come the end of the summer when we first started hooking up his mom and i are having
00:52:37.620
dinner and mind you we're really good friends and so she's like so i hear you're seeing someone and we
00:52:42.640
tried to keep it on the dl we didn't want everybody to know and uh she's i was like yeah i'm not i'm not
00:52:48.360
sure where it's going you know like hopefully you know it's something that lasts long but you know
00:52:52.560
long distance relationships we'll see we'll see she's like yeah so what are your intentions with my
00:52:56.460
son and straight up like at a movie i was like what i'm fucking my friend's son i was like oh well
00:53:04.500
she's like just be good to each other and a year and a half later we're married so it worked out now
00:53:08.880
my mother-in-law is my best friend so wait going back to you really quick and then i have a couple
00:53:13.680
questions for you sure um wait so when you're trying to divorce him was it during your first or
00:53:18.680
second second pregnancy my first oh wait hold on but you have two kids i do so wait why did you
00:53:27.480
if you're trying to divorce him during your first pregnancy why did you go and have a second kid
00:53:34.280
with him so that it's were you guys like working it out kind of or sort of um okay but i didn't exactly
00:53:40.980
choose to get pregnant again unexpected yeah good times okay yeah yeah all right we're gonna read two
00:53:50.060
chats then we're gonna get into uh some topics here uh we have bobby bobby i'm gonna have you read some
00:53:57.140
of these chats nick can you pull this up the dyslexic person okay oh you're dyslexic okay give it a shot
00:54:03.120
i believe in you oh is this one okay alissa i love those kids but can you quit being so easy on
00:54:10.380
the lorax um give the juicy stories i'll find a way to wipe the internet of this interview by the
00:54:18.040
time they're old enough to see it what is that your is that the loraxes yeah he looks like the lorax
00:54:24.160
okay so after i left um i so i haven't blocked and i had to change my number and all kinds of stuff
00:54:30.660
but my friends still look at his page because people are nosy like people are just nosy and they
00:54:36.060
send me a screenshot um of his new partner and um in that picture like my husband had literally aged
00:54:45.180
like 20 years in the course of a few months and um so there's like a side-by-side picture and
00:54:50.400
everybody called him the lorax i don't i don't know who that is or why they just said that on the
00:54:57.700
internet but um i mean you can't really help how you look so there's more important things than that
00:55:04.160
but i think it can be a reflection of like maybe you're when you stop taking care of yourself it
00:55:10.140
looks like maybe things are going downhill a little bit all right so he's the lorax because he looks
00:55:18.200
yeah they say he looks like the lorax okay uh bobby can have you read this one please
00:55:26.140
thank you bro naissance repeal the 19th amendment immediately these women have no understanding of
00:55:32.080
how men work or what we want nor do they care about what we want we need patrice o'neill back
00:55:39.480
immediately i love patrice what are you i feel like he's referring how the hell are we supposed to
00:55:47.320
know what men want we need patrice o'neill that's my boy like we're completely different like unless
00:55:54.120
people are being honest with communication we don't like i don't know what men want it's an
00:55:58.660
individual basis understanding what people generally well it just cracks me up when people say like oh
00:56:04.100
well female or oh men should be like this or female should be like this it's like females like it
00:56:09.940
doesn't everybody's different yeah we're all literally a product of a million dependent variables that are
00:56:16.460
unique to us based off of our nurture and nature and all of our unique experiences so everybody's
00:56:21.400
going to be different but for the most part it seems like men kind of have some things that we
00:56:25.600
can all say that they want and i think i don't think that we don't understand what men want i don't
00:56:31.600
think i don't know what i think i think most women don't understand what they want most women that i
00:56:36.400
know especially under under the age of 25 y'all don't know what the hell you want at all you don't know
00:56:42.440
what you want to eat for dinner you don't want to know you don't know what outfit to wear you don't
00:56:46.280
know a lot i think men mostly more than like y'all can say it's sex or whatever men want to feel
00:56:50.840
appreciated for like the work that they do and they don't want to have to read your mind they want
00:56:55.900
you to communicate what you want and if they're you know working for you providing for you they just
00:57:01.620
want to be seen and appreciated and i think in society for the most part men don't get that and
00:57:06.800
they're also not given as much freedom to be emotional and then they turn into like these
00:57:11.100
incels that like i think the biggest thing that men would probably really appreciate from women
00:57:17.000
that they don't get is women holding themselves accountable for things that's a good one too
00:57:22.340
80 of women that i know don't know about accountability they don't know how to take
00:57:26.460
accountability they don't know how to admit their own failures whether it's in relationship
00:57:30.780
exactly they can't you know you want to take away the sex because of this and that and the other
00:57:34.820
well what happened what happened what what prompted that in this in this relationship
00:57:38.940
why do you feel like you need to be the one to hold out and then you want to scream equality
00:57:43.440
like come on though like obviously there's men who can't be held accountable to like my husband would
00:57:48.000
point things out about me and i make it a point in my life to not be ruled by cognitive dissonance like
00:57:54.440
i feel like the more intelligent you are the more you know that you don't know like there's you have
00:57:58.460
blind spots in your awareness and that made me a perfect victim to narcissistic abuse because he would be
00:58:03.960
like it's you and i would reflect and i'm like was your therapist a liberal no i'm not a liberal
00:58:10.540
therapist a liberal no well who i don't did the therapist introduce narcissistic abuse into your
00:58:18.480
lexicon yes i didn't know anything about it but when i was explaining like all the experiences she
00:58:26.840
said it sounds like she's like obviously i can't diagnose someone who's not my patient can i ask you a
00:58:30.300
is do you think there's anything you did wrong in that one thousand percent like one thousand
00:58:35.020
percent all kinds of things like um i would like threaten i would threaten to leave a lot instead of
00:58:43.820
like that was my resort to stress like if it got too stressful i'm like i'm just i'm gonna fucking
00:58:48.540
leave like i don't i'm not dealing when you say leave do you mean breakup or leave as in like
00:58:52.160
physically just walk in general um and then like it's i did plenty of wrong things like yell cuss throw
00:59:01.460
things um all kinds of things like i would kind of leverage my ex a little bit in the beginning but
00:59:09.840
also i was 22 at the time wait what do you mean leverage your ex so like like your husband your
00:59:15.880
husband or like a previous yeah so my boyfriend before my husband like in the beginning when i first
00:59:20.420
started to see like the crazy shit um i didn't i don't have family in the state so the only person
00:59:25.820
that i knew was my ex and he was a couple hours away and i would call him and i'd be like come
00:59:29.960
fucking get me this guy's insane and he would start to and then like my husband would kind of like
00:59:34.760
switch it up and like cry and like beg me to stay and then i would be like call my ex and be like
00:59:39.640
never mind just go home like wait how early into the relationship did some of these
00:59:45.200
worrying things so like it's like a year in but they were more of like a codependent nature like a
00:59:54.080
um clingy obsessive like hacking my email type of stuff things like that maybe you should have a
01:00:00.960
air uh air tag in your car let's share locations type stuff and i and whatever that's fine some of
01:00:07.440
that is fine but um no it's not that's also not codependence is coercive control well yeah so i know
01:00:12.700
that now i thought it was just like maybe he has vpd or something you know and then um after i had
01:00:18.080
kids and people want to act like oh well they just lose attraction during pregnancy he was more
01:00:22.120
attracted to me when i was pregnant like and wait what yes and actually let me tell y'all something
01:00:26.580
about like the more pregnant like the more pregnant you got there's a fetish like the bigger the belly
01:00:31.140
no i okay so i used to have an only fans and i made more money during pregnancy than any other time
01:00:37.280
in my life more money than when i was like 19 years old yeah so men are into that are all women
01:00:42.380
under 25 i can you know what maybe in my head one of the reasons why a guy might like like maybe at
01:00:50.540
least early on in the pregnancy i mean you can't get pregnant twice right that's true and then there's
01:00:55.680
a biological component to it where you're reflecting fertility and you know so you could they might feel
01:01:00.980
more pair bonded to you wait what you never heard of that with like twins so you're like you can like
01:01:07.420
get pregnant once and then if you get like nutted in a second time around that time there's no watch
01:01:13.320
i've never heard of oh yeah pregnant hold on so you're a month you're a month pregnant and a guy
01:01:19.200
keeps blasting inside you you can get pregnant again re-pregnant i've never heard of this there's no
01:01:25.140
fucking way yeah there's no fucking way is this a thing nick can you google this shit i don't believe
01:01:30.100
where did you hear that it's it's happened before i know i know a lady right now i have never is this
01:01:36.400
this could be a thing i just come out at different times i don't know all the details i just know i
01:01:41.080
feel like i did see a story about a woman who got pregnant by two different men right oh and she
01:01:45.060
had a white baby and a black baby i saw that story yikes she must have had two eggs yeah it's yeah
01:01:51.040
okay sometimes okay so it doesn't exist it does happen yeah so wait hold on you can get
01:01:56.080
is it safe to pull up uh can you show me let's let's see what does that was the internet say nick
01:02:03.660
what the fuck it's extremely rare super fetation involves a person ovulating again while pregnant
01:02:11.680
uh usually prevents subsequent pregnancies once an embryo is developing because of hormonal changes
01:02:20.840
that stop ovulation however hormonal imbalances or irregular menstrual cycles could make it more
01:02:28.480
likely to happen oh shit so okay guys be careful out there boys just because she's preggers you can't
01:02:36.800
be blasting i guess i don't know all right it's something very important today shit boys okay uh okay
01:02:46.220
anyways i did not know that it's rare though it's rare so you're probably good guys he's like i could
01:02:53.560
have a kid out there uh wait so uh where were we were talking so like he what a lot of people would
01:02:58.340
say like oh it's because you had kids that ruined the relationship no it's just because we had kids
01:03:02.720
he thought she's tied down i don't have to do anything anymore you know whatever i can disappear for
01:03:09.060
11 days and her follow missing persons report on me and it's gonna be all good you know she's taking
01:03:13.140
care of two a newborn and a toddler like she doesn't have the energy to leave and then it just
01:03:17.640
you know kept the behaviors got worse and worse until so but he was more into you when you were
01:03:21.980
pregnant i mean he was always very into me talking like sexually or what are we talking yeah oh yeah
01:03:27.980
only sexually when i was pregnant i didn't get like the foot rubs or the here's some chocolate none of
01:03:31.620
that oh i wasn't even treated good giving birth actually damn i was dying and he was just like
01:03:38.720
casually eating peanuts and inviting his mom into the room there's like this meme that's going
01:03:43.240
around of a guy who it's a it's a selfie but a guy takes a photo of himself with like a pepperoni
01:03:50.840
pizza yes and then the woman i saw that is in the background giving birth to a child and like
01:03:57.140
screaming in pain yeah that's and i actually showed him that and i was like hey did you find that nick
01:04:02.260
and by the way you can eat during pregnancy don't let or during labor don't let your nurses tell
01:04:06.320
that you can't that's hospital policy policy is not law you can eat during pregnancy why would
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you want to because your body's like running a marathon it's it takes a lot of energy you need
01:04:17.440
food and if you're in a long labor you're gonna be hungry did you find it nick i would think you're
01:04:23.040
nauseous while i'm trying to push something out of your vagina well you're not like in act i mean
01:04:28.000
sometimes so for me i was like dying with preeclampsia so i was there about a week oh you got it
01:04:32.520
that sucks and then got pregnant three months and later yeah did not know you could impregnate
01:04:40.620
a pregnant chick careful boys the more you know all you guys with like your pregnancy fetishes or
01:04:48.080
whatever you gotta be careful you got it uh it's hard for me to tell wait is it to us
01:04:54.980
yeah that's it i'm pretty sure go ahead pull it up
01:04:59.120
good yeah that's it uh with the jalapeno what a fucking monster it's taking the picture who cares
01:05:06.200
about like him eating during the pregnancies put fucking jalapenos on pizza what an idiot
01:05:10.340
that's sacrilegious all right uh where were we nick uh let's do twitch guys go to twitch.tv
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01:05:29.340
at least i apparently somebody told me that even if you disable ads on twitch twitch will still force
01:05:36.360
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01:05:41.780
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for the prime appreciate it guys drop us a follow on prime sub if you have one and then also guys
01:05:54.860
like the video nick could you pull up the view count really quick i'm just hide that hide that
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yeah we're testing out this other thing all right so we got a thousand watching on twitch oh that's
01:06:05.640
weird it like did it okay i gotta fix that it should be one next to the other but we got a thousand
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viewers on twitch over seven thousand viewers on youtube guys drop us a like uh drop us a like on
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the video please thank you nick it uh it helps with the algorithm so drop us a like guys we got that
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seven thousand people watching like the video okay you can hide that nick did something fall the table
01:06:29.620
it's okay just um let it put it on the ground gently yeah we got a table malfunction here uh good times
01:06:39.440
all right cool so we're gonna go around the table ask everyone to rate their looks face body so two
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ratings on a scale of one to ten you can't pick seven starting with you face and body okay so i would
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say face um i'm a natural 10 um what's a natural 10 i was hoping you would ask because i put a lot
01:07:01.800
of thought into it a natural 10 is like in brian's perfect utopia where women don't wear makeup don't
01:07:07.400
have botox filler and wait in my perfect utopia yeah if they don't wear makeup or botox and filler i
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would like to think i was in the 10 range maybe a 9.5 in my perfect utopia yes okay a natural 10
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but um in this economy may be different but body i would say
01:07:25.900
six or seven can't say seven oh yeah okay why can't we say seven i guess everybody says it maybe
01:07:35.200
what about you uh i would give my face a nine because i hate my nose yeah okay and my dad doesn't
01:07:45.660
like it either and i have his nose so it's a curse and then i'd give my body a 10 because i'm just
01:07:52.200
naturally fit i think i'm hot so somebody just asked you in total just to rate your looks
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do you give yourself 9.5 or would it be a 10 9.5 okay if you gotta if you fixed your nose would it
01:08:04.860
be a 10 10 phase 10 total yeah i guess yeah show me your side profile turn that way
01:08:12.140
your nose is it looks normal your nose is fine what what's the what's the issue with it i just
01:08:18.640
hate like if i make like if someone catches me off guard and i'm like making a face or like scrunch
01:08:23.000
my nose it just looks so pointy like oh my god pointy noses are aesthetic i think i don't know
01:08:28.660
yeah yeah i think you have a cute nose thanks guys it's a good nose don't worry about the nose
01:08:34.240
you got a good nose i'll trade you i got a big i got a big nose i'll trade you the nose you want
01:08:38.120
to trade noses i'll give you my nose you i'll take yours so call it a day all right what about you
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i'd say my face is a five and my body is like a nine body nine yeah face face five okay yeah i was
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gonna give myself a six for face um yeah i'll say six for face and then for body a four
01:08:56.140
okay what about you say an eight uh for face body probably about an eight for both eight for
01:09:03.600
both yeah can we see the tats show us the tats hold them out like like this my solar panels what
01:09:11.200
so what's the is there a story behind the no story everyone always asks if they're like cover-ups or
01:09:17.600
something like that um i waited till i was 35 to get any tattoos at all i kind of knew who i was and
01:09:23.200
have my life together and i was like all right i feel like so you had no tattoos until you were 35
01:09:27.460
zero wow zero yeah because i mean like that's that's pretty uh intense to do like full coverage
01:09:34.080
like that right it was what do they call that is their name blackout blackout tattoo okay
01:09:38.440
their almed meatball donated two hundred dollars blondies are 10 in looks but gotta work on the
01:09:46.780
non-looks stuff rest our fives all over brian keep up the good work haven't been able to watch
01:09:53.140
in a while the room oh dude it's the meeple god mr meeple where you fucking been buddy i missed you
01:10:00.120
dude you've been gone you can follow me on good to see you in the chat dude you're a fucking legend
01:10:04.320
here let me drop this for you bro he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer you're a fucking
01:10:08.800
pioneer dude i'm it's good to see you back we missed you welcome back man uh i'd love to know
01:10:14.240
what mr meatball looks like oh he's a giga chad 10 out of 10 i'm sure cut jawline with a name like
01:10:19.920
that right yeah cut jawline huge pp i can change your mind about my rating uh okay so what about
01:10:27.460
you i'm gonna say an eight and eight i don't i don't do a lot of makeup i don't i've never put
01:10:32.480
anything in my face no botox i i hate chicks who wear fake eyelashes i i don't know i don't like the
01:10:37.900
fake stuff i don't like anything that's unnatural on your body wait so eight and eight okay madison
01:10:42.920
what about you uh face probably 6.9 if i can't say seven and body eight you're being too modest
01:10:54.180
yeah i think i could like girl you're a 10 and a 10 get stronger i think my arms are really skinny
01:10:59.180
double 10 it's the rest of your body i could kill it yeah okay so are you're the only 10 then
01:11:07.000
in brian's perfect utopia yes okay wait you said blondie oh oh okay i believe in modesty so i
01:11:15.460
didn't want to give myself yeah yeah i gotcha okay i wonder what the chat thinks about you let's find
01:11:23.020
out oh what i get uh face and fuck damn i never i just give myself a five normally but uh face body
01:11:32.040
hmm that's a tough one because i gotta lose a bit of weight right now but i think i would say
01:11:40.660
like a dumpy it makes you higher if i got the dumpy yeah it makes you higher uh i'll just say uh
01:11:56.420
4.5 body right now it's fair i gotta lose some weight i got a dad women love dad bonds
01:12:05.460
i promise say that but i swear to god it's not true it's not true they love personality except
01:12:11.940
that it is i've never cheated on anybody that's not bad if i was gonna cheat it would be with a dad
01:12:18.840
bod oh shit but i wouldn't date somebody who's like super muscular anyway there's this meme that's
01:12:23.960
like guys posting gym pics and the other men are like yeah bro and the women are like
01:12:28.500
don't care we like dad bods it's a thing you say it but like the behavior is the truth though
01:12:36.920
came into this room absolutely not i have a crush on jim from the office like that's
01:12:40.540
my time as a babe like heavy eric foreman would also work wow eric foreman yeah like if he was like
01:12:48.380
if he was a little thicker i had a crush on uncle joey growing up not jesse uncle joey
01:12:51.940
what did your dad look like my dad is tall and skinny you were like redheaded you're like an
01:12:58.920
italian puerto rican lady good to know good to know uh 10 really 10 don't you think it's a bit
01:13:09.380
hubris you know a little hubris well like i said it's a natural tin like say we are in a world where
01:13:16.980
there is no filler botox and like people wearing makeup because i usually don't wear makeup at all
01:13:21.260
i'm literally wearing some tinted like brow stuff and blush just so that i don't get washed out on
01:13:30.140
camera it's camera ready makeup but i usually don't not to brag but you bring it up all the time how
01:13:35.560
you prefer women that don't and i'm just saying like in that utopia world i would say that i'm a
01:13:41.820
10 and you have to also think that i'm 30 so i have like i still have my like wrinkles i'm no
01:13:48.440
she looks younger than 30 i still got my cheekbones i'll give you that i'll give you that
01:13:54.540
it's all real it's all real yes sir don't you think though like the armpit hair is gonna knock
01:14:01.440
you down like a point or two a little bit i can shave that that's like literally not a thing
01:14:04.820
can you show us one more time that's a part of her medical
01:14:07.280
we can't the mics block actually a little bit thicker this one is like my favorite one because
01:14:14.580
it's more like chat's on fire right now it's kind of cute she's get me now can you pull up those
01:14:19.280
there's ig photos too where it's a bit more it's so gross it's okay to have your preferences and i have
01:14:24.780
i mean i really just i don't have a preference for being hairy i just like i'm very low maintenance
01:14:31.000
instagrams i do is purple my hair so that's another that's a photo of you with the the armpit
01:14:36.920
hair next uh okay rocking the armpit hair you can you can uh so i want to ask the chat chat would
01:14:46.120
you like would it be a red flag would it be a deal breaker would you date a girl who has armpit hair
01:14:51.540
that's the question well you can text out those names well unshaved armpit hair wait hold on
01:14:59.740
that's like hold on that's like me saying hold on madison that's like me saying uh
01:15:04.540
uh if somebody asked you uh would you date a guy with a beard and then you're like well every guy
01:15:11.740
has a beard they just shave it no not every guy can grow a beard that's oh their armed meatball
01:15:18.540
donated two hundred dollars okay whatever armpit hair is a minus one thousand armpit hair is a
01:15:24.460
yo mr meatball i think i can shave it and i frequently do and she's plus then she's plus a
01:15:29.900
thousand now is it like what about leg hair do you shave leg hair too well i have very fine like
01:15:35.580
blonde hair and so i like you can't even tell if i have like hair it's only like doesn't it feel
01:15:42.780
like well we don't need to see that yeah i currently i currently have a bunch of scratches
01:15:46.940
and bruises because i have a bunch of kittens but um yeah i don't shave my legs what i did like once
01:15:53.100
and i did not like the prickly i don't want to like be prickly good to know good to know i look
01:15:59.740
some some women have like fine hair some women have uh fine hair so good to know i dated a guy who
01:16:06.940
loved the way my armpit smelled i don't know what that was all about but i just found it very
01:16:11.580
interesting excuse me strange but i shaved my armpits though so less stink well would you that's
01:16:19.660
fucking disgusting would you wear deodorant or is it just like natural armpit smell she wears
01:16:27.740
deodorant yeah i always wear deodorant all right guys we're going whoa that um what's the smell is
01:16:35.820
like a six doesn't smell all the way good oh shit bro you're sitting right next to her the whole
01:16:41.260
fucking show too smell like french onion soup oh from there it's just like if you like stick it in
01:16:45.740
there if you stick it in someone who was sexually compatible or like to procreate then i'm sure and
01:16:51.580
she's literally a woman with her pheromones you know oh definitely yeah there's i've known i've
01:16:56.540
definitely known people who go crazy over my smell i heard of that that's true like if you're attracted to
01:17:03.180
like yeah guys guys or something i had clients when i was a stripper who would come in and literally
01:17:09.020
just lab dance was him with his face buried in my armpit it's definitely a thing yeah
01:17:23.980
don't be king shaming that's not the weirdest thing hey don't king shame you're the one that likes
01:17:28.940
bowing come on what's wrong with that oh we'll get it's a kink that not everybody is like it's not
01:17:34.460
even a kink i don't think it's a kink that is a kink definitely everything how's the kink it's submissive
01:17:40.380
he's hella subby they're around meatball donated two hundred dollars you like some dommy mommy
01:17:44.860
shit huh nah you donated two hundred dollars and you only said one word facts bro facts okay uh wait you
01:17:52.220
why don't you think i'm i'm a sub i'm asking you think i'm a sub well i don't know the back
01:17:57.340
story to you i should be insulted no he likes you know if you like to bow that's
01:18:02.300
you're insulting i'm so no you like wait wait are you saying you like girls to bow to you yes oh
01:18:09.180
okay i thought you were saying like i don't know the back you think i'm gonna hit a bow no i don't
01:18:14.380
i could see you being a switch how i wouldn't say like this girl is already ready to pack me okay
01:18:20.380
take me home after the podcast strap it on and just right that's why that's why that's
01:18:28.620
something like that like i think i know look all this narcissist shit bullshit you were trying to
01:18:34.140
you wanted to peg your husband he wasn't down actually no he wasn't down i don't want to say
01:18:39.980
too much listen you're saying you were were you if a man was sodomizing your husband no but if a guy
01:18:48.620
was into that like if you wanted to get pegged i'd peg him i probably wouldn't date that guy but
01:18:51.980
like whatever wait didn't you say you wouldn't date a guy who's bi yeah i wouldn't um but i can
01:18:57.260
guarantee you that but you'd be fine you know i don't want to say too much you would be fine
01:19:01.740
putting a dude in doggy style and penetrating him so i've had submissives before so yeah but like i
01:19:07.020
wouldn't romantically so you're a switch then you could say well i don't know i don't like to be
01:19:11.340
fully like you're not gonna be like yeah you dirty little no you're not gonna do that to me um
01:19:14.860
um oh well that's degradation which is a part of domination well you don't have to do i guess
01:19:20.860
it just depends on the level of dominance but you could be like a gentle dom yeah for sure you
01:19:26.860
don't have to like be degrading or even do uh uh masochism or sadism or whatever
01:19:35.340
so you can just be in charge let's say but uh okay
01:19:38.620
oh the bear shit okay boys we've been talking about this man or bear conversation for a month
01:19:47.100
now now california nick pull up the art the page the google page boys there was a bear attack and a
01:19:56.940
bear killing a woman this is the first fatal oh black bear maybe there's a brown bear uh in california
01:20:07.020
wait 2023 no wait 2023 woman hold on two days ago i thought this was brand new scroll down a little
01:20:14.380
bit lots of news articles cnn sky news nbc usa today ap news cbs california confirms first fatal black
01:20:22.460
bear attack oh it's a they're probably brown bears and grizzly bear attacks okay there's a black bear
01:20:27.100
these girls saying oh well if it's a black bear it might be friendly scroll down a little bit stupid
01:20:31.900
fatal black bear attack it's been in the news pull uh nick scroll up a little bit where or just right
01:20:38.940
there cnn two days ago patrice miller 71 was not just okay but i don't think she was like
01:20:45.340
it broke into her but a recently released autopsy report by california in her home
01:20:51.340
fuck it click that cnn wait actually fuck cnn i mean i already scroll back up
01:20:55.740
we're gonna have a play wall so uh we're gonna do we'll do sky news let's see sky news i'll i'll
01:21:03.500
allow sky news at the end they're kind of okay they're australian woman found dead in mountains
01:21:07.900
was victim of state's first fatal bear attack she was a autopsy confirmed she was mauled to death
01:21:15.580
in the teeny mount mountainous mountainous how do you fucking say that mountainous sorry for your
01:21:22.860
losses mountainous mountainanus mountainanus it's mountainanus definitely don't be dumb
01:21:28.220
that's horrible uh like what is life we're in the matrix so
01:21:35.660
fuck i should have asked the goddamn bear question first god dang ask the bear question all right we'll
01:21:40.780
just i should have asked it before i pulled up the freaking article because now maybe it's gonna
01:21:44.700
it's gonna skew things start on that side of the table no well i'm gonna be yapping and you know
01:21:51.900
this he's gonna prove his dominance now okay so going around the table would you rather come across
01:21:58.780
a random man or random bear in the woods starting with you i've done both multiple times i literally
01:22:04.780
you've had sexual intercourse with a man and a bear what do you mean you've done this question
01:22:09.420
define done um well i used carnal knowledge hitchhike the country like i was practically
01:22:14.860
homeless i just wanted to travel and i you know in certain more rural areas i would go walking looking
01:22:20.860
for my place to like camp for the night i would come across bears and then sometimes if i were like
01:22:26.060
more in cities i have literally slept in the woods right next to some bums that i didn't even say hi to
01:22:32.540
i just walked up and i was like hey are you gonna arrive at the point soon can you arrive at the
01:22:39.180
point there are points see i told you i was gonna yap but um i've done both to the question bear did
01:22:45.100
not kill me the man did not try nothing so this is the silliest argument man but the bear is also cute
01:22:52.380
like for the sake of yeah the bear is cute what about you uh i'd probably choose bear over man in
01:23:00.380
the middle of the woods just because men are unpredictable and the bear i know if i if i
01:23:04.940
poke it with a stick then it's a dumb way to die you know i'm not poking the bear with stick we can
01:23:09.420
what if you don't be friends you can be friends with the bear oh my god for sure
01:23:15.100
give it some food and stuff he'll be very happy i've run into a bear you are the food
01:23:19.260
what about you choosing the man man man 100 the dude man okay i shouldn't have shown that
01:23:29.660
the news article i don't think it would have mattered about this before the answer was the
01:23:34.220
same no you have to be ominous about it actually it did change it because i didn't wait really no
01:23:41.820
the chances of a guy wait so you would have said bear i would have probably said a black bear
01:23:46.860
bear because i feel like well so your answer would have been black bear black bear yeah yeah
01:23:53.420
i but what i don't understand what the question is is like the chances if you're in the woods you're
01:23:58.300
there for a reason whether you're camping hiking whatever the case is and i'm not saying that this
01:24:02.940
is across you know the board blanket wise but i'm pretty sure the dude is probably there for the same
01:24:07.580
reasons it's i i mean i'm not saying that every single time you go to the woods and the guys in the
01:24:12.140
woods that he's looking to a kill you rape you or you know sorry do terrible things to you
01:24:17.820
so you know i just i don't i don't see that necessarily being the first thing that's going
01:24:21.740
to happen so the scenario the better way to think of it because a lot of people think like well what's
01:24:26.300
the man doing there i think it's kind of irrelevant to the question the scenario would better just be
01:24:31.100
described as you randomly get dropped in the woods along with randomly getting dropped in the woods
01:24:38.620
with a man or a bear and you will cross paths with them so the motivations of why are they there
01:24:46.220
are kind of irrelevant exactly in this scenario uh you pick bear why is that
01:24:54.620
because in some cases bear can be safer than the man and what can in what scenario will a bear
01:25:00.540
ever be safer than a man and a bear a man you have a chance to fight against a bear you do not
01:25:04.940
a man could also more likely than not would well okay go ahead make your argument lie i just feel
01:25:12.380
like i don't with the bear oh if i don't mess with the bear and bear doesn't mess with me we're good
01:25:19.340
but men you don't you don't know i mean sometimes i talk to guys and just me being nice to them they're
01:25:23.660
they think i'm trying to trying to move to the next base and i'm like bro i'm just being nice to you
01:25:29.660
like i'm so good okay and in those situations where maybe the guy was not reading the signals
01:25:36.860
correctly did he end up murdering you well no oh okay but you felt uncomfortable you could say almost
01:25:48.380
you never know almost really so all the all those times where the guy misread the signals you were on
01:25:57.340
the verge of being murdered but you just most certainly dude i bet he had like a butter knife
01:26:06.700
in his back pocket waiting for the moment yeah butter knife that would be a good way probably a
01:26:12.220
spoon i think the only fair argument there sorry to interrupt good i think the only fair argument is
01:26:17.820
like people in general men or women can be more like calculated right and manipulative whereas like
01:26:23.580
an animal is kind of just going to react whereas like a person could possibly act like they don't
01:26:27.820
have bad intent and then actually a bad intent i think that's the only argument i would say for
01:26:32.140
choosing the bear yeah does that i don't know i've been actually like an animal's more predictable
01:26:37.740
i'm gonna assume that a bear might do something aggressive so i can be ready for it but like a
01:26:41.580
person a man could like pretend that they have good intent and then kind of get you to let your guard
01:26:46.540
down and then not but i mean the men that i'm running into on the trail i'm a big trail runner
01:26:51.580
i have never knock on something and i'm in some really remote places run into a man who is trying
01:26:56.860
to hurt me in the wilderness ever well just here in la there was homeless guys randomly attacking women
01:27:03.740
running on the beach oh that's like in new york that's in like new york where there's like punching
01:27:10.140
women exactly it's different oh yeah i guess i'm not so i'm not trying to make the argument here that
01:27:15.500
there aren't bad men can we change the animal could it be like an elephant okay but you're you're like
01:27:25.340
super outdoorsy right like don't you do you do van life i lived in a van for two years okay and but
01:27:31.020
and you're running you do trail running so i mean how many times a week would you be out running in the
01:27:37.260
wilderness alone i guess i mean when i'm in peak training i'm running up at like 12 500 feet for
01:27:43.740
like 40 50 miles a week so i'm spending hours and hours i'm talking like no cell service completely by
01:27:49.100
myself and i do carry something yeah i also have a really um a really strong dog um so he's a very
01:27:55.180
good deterrent but i mean still if someone has a gun or a knife you know and had really bad intent
01:27:59.580
that's not going to do much like how many how many um individual times would you say you've
01:28:05.340
like been out in the wilderness over a thousand times easily i've been trail running for like
01:28:10.380
seven eight years like where you're you're alone and how many times would you say you've like maybe
01:28:14.620
crossed an individual uh man when you're out there maybe like 15 20 just because where i run
01:28:21.100
is so remote it's super remote so it's rare for you to even encounter anybody very rare but i've never
01:28:26.220
felt unsafe i'm always like aware you know and kind of wary but i've never felt threatened or had
01:28:31.500
anything yeah happen and of the times you did encounter men what i mean is it just you literally
01:28:37.420
pass them and it's like a little nod or hi and that's it you just walk past each other yes i
01:28:42.140
think i think maybe i've just been lucky i do think like there's an element of luck here you know i know
01:28:46.140
that bad things can happen to people and sometimes they're not asking for it you know but um i feel like
01:28:51.740
the men that i've passed were kind of aware of the circumstances of the fact that we were alone and
01:28:56.860
were aware of the fact that they are a man and we were in the middle of nowhere and maybe i've just
01:29:01.660
been lucky but i felt that they were very respectful of that so their almed meatball donated 200
01:29:08.140
has anyone on this panel ever run into a beer before how safe did you feel i have in alaska same
01:29:15.100
but i was in a car there was no harm you're in a car yeah in a car and i've run into probably about
01:29:20.140
i would say five to six black bears since i've lived in colorado like 10 feet away and they all just
01:29:24.780
leave you be about their day yeah same i've run into about five or six and one time not counting
01:29:30.940
the cubs it was a mom with two cubs and yeah it was about like 10 15 feet away and i was excited i
01:29:37.900
didn't feel any fear and i was just like oh that's so cute and i was terrified you're braver i sat in
01:29:43.180
my car for 30 minutes last night because there was a raccoon outside i was so scared to get in
01:29:47.660
my house are mean that was smart i actually got bit by a barracuda and it was like over a hundred
01:29:53.820
barracuda they're about that big and one of them bit me and i started bleeding and i just
01:29:58.380
held my finger and like swam to shore like but i my heart rate did not even skip a beat i don't know
01:30:04.460
i have like survival instincts like a motherfucker i guess or you're a beautiful psychopath definitely
01:30:10.860
not a psychopath i'm very emotional but hey we both lived in vans before wow commonality
01:30:17.820
yes yes queen i'm more boring than thin thin i watch okay uh hold on just going back to you
01:30:26.700
since you said bear and you were gonna say bear i'm gonna just say your answer was bear my answer
01:30:31.420
was bear yeah sure um so why why bear because i'm an irrational human being oh that's a good that's
01:30:38.060
actually probably the best answer i've heard on that you at least yourself aware of that it's an
01:30:43.660
irrational uh answer and so really quick going back to you so you like how many times per week
01:30:51.180
would you go out into the wilderness like five days a week it depends on the time of the year
01:30:56.300
obviously um but in the summer i'd say at least two three times a week i'm up pretty high okay yeah
01:31:02.620
good to know good to know so okay a couple questions for you on this bear thing so you think
01:31:08.140
you'd rather be with a bear than the man so what do you think the chances are if we select a random
01:31:15.100
man from the united states population what do you think the chances are that if placed in the
01:31:20.860
scenario that a man would opt to victimize you in some way
01:31:29.260
i don't know i actually i don't know well give us a percentage 20 30 40 50 well it depends on
01:31:37.740
what what victimizing means to you uh anyway from anywhere from
01:31:45.420
say touching you inappropriately to all the way to murder
01:31:50.780
uh i would say probably like 40 40 40 and is that 40 40 of men would touch you inappropriately
01:32:00.140
do you have a lower percentage for how many would murder you or still 40 i just think it's
01:32:04.860
like 40 for more like men touching inappropriately because just like my experience and like school
01:32:10.540
with dudes like going through puberty like like there was this one kid that literally would like
01:32:15.660
walk behind all the girls with big butts and just like smack them and run away yeah that's wrong um
01:32:21.740
what so this was in how old were you in middle school yikes okay well that's wrong of him to do 100 but
01:32:28.700
what are you kind of arguing that 40 of the boys that you went to school with touched you or other women inappropriately
01:32:44.380
just be clear if there were a thousand say there were a thousand boys that would be 400 of the boys or 200 of the boys in the case of
01:32:51.740
20 200 the boys in the school were touching the women inappropriately they would shut the school down
01:33:05.340
middle school experience i just feel like dudes before they have any common sense just do stupid
01:33:10.380
stuff and then women are like uh what do i do about this like what do i do some women don't even say
01:33:15.420
anything they get touched inappropriately and they were never even taught that they were touched
01:33:20.140
inappropriately so they're just like but i feel like if we did a statistic and women had to like
01:33:25.660
if we had like a poll like how many women were touched inappropriate and like inappropriately in
01:33:30.140
their time and didn't say anything i feel like it would be a higher number than
01:33:34.700
than people would expect that's what the whole me too movement was about
01:33:39.980
that's that's what the whole me too movement was about is that every woman has been through something
01:33:43.420
like that yeah so i'd have to say like 40 i feel like 50 is too many but i definitely feel like 40
01:33:48.460
like men don't like so i feel like it's actually a smaller percentage of men but it's the percentage
01:33:55.740
of men they're doing it more so they're gonna so the percentage of men is probably like maybe five ten
01:34:03.100
percent but that percentage of men is doing so much sa or enough sa to where it's affecting multiple
01:34:12.860
women what constitutes sa to you um for me uh anytime that a man inappropriately touches me or um
01:34:24.380
holds me against my will and i don't mean to put you on the spot i'm genuinely curious so like if a man
01:34:29.740
were to come up and like put his hand on your shoulder you're not saying that that would be a
01:34:33.500
say i think it would be a violation of my privacy but it would not be sexual assault
01:34:42.220
so can we try to narrow in here on a number in terms of of the men random random man
01:34:50.620
what percentage of men do you think would opt to victimize you in some way in this scenario
01:34:57.260
i feel like they don't opt i just feel like sometimes they do it and they don't know that
01:35:04.460
they're doing it like okay fine they're doing it whether whether they're doing they're doing
01:35:10.380
it unconsciously or consciously i think that's like a really good percentage 20 yeah okay so
01:35:17.740
let's say that there's 160 million men in the united states 20 of that would be um and math here
01:35:28.700
is going to be fucked uh 30 something million let's just say around 30 so you think 30 million men
01:35:39.340
in the united states in this situation would uh choose to victimize you in some way
01:35:47.740
maybe women in general not just me or wall you're the one on the hike that wouldn't that on the one
01:35:52.860
do you think 30 do you think 30 million men in the united states throughout the course of their life
01:35:57.980
will uh victimize a woman in some way probably 30 million men
01:36:08.140
i mean america is pretty good with the rules and things and i feel like we have more morals than
01:36:12.940
other countries but i feel like what's the current going to other countries the numbers might get
01:36:17.580
higher so the current prison population uh let's see is over 1 million it's 1.2 million
01:36:31.100
uh and this this is this includes uh huh in the united states yeah 1.2 million that's the current
01:36:38.620
prison population in the united states and this is going to include uh financial crimes it's going
01:36:44.860
to include drug like drug related crimes men who are violent towards other men um so obviously you
01:36:53.740
know there are people who commit crimes get away with it they don't get in trouble etc there are men
01:36:59.180
who are released but i mean don't you think given given this number i've provided that it's probably
01:37:05.420
unlikely that 30 million percent of or sorry not 30 million men in the united states would choose to
01:37:12.780
victimize you they probably have at some point in their lifetime you think 30 million men would at
01:37:19.260
some point at some point you're making a very like broad definition of essay too so that's like
01:37:26.540
what about no no well i'm including like murder it's probably five in this okay but this is a
01:37:31.580
a logical fallacy because just because there's that many millions of people in prison right now
01:37:36.700
it's not like a broad overview of people who have maybe have gotten out of prison haven't gone to
01:37:41.980
prison yet i mentioned that right so then you do have to account for that okay let's just double
01:37:46.060
the math and see how many people are in prison for rape and rape or sex guys just say that haven't
01:37:52.700
been reported so maybe add a little bit more for that because that's very common what women who don't
01:37:59.820
report the essay yeah so it's really hard to look at statistics in this way when it's such a nuanced
01:38:05.660
i think if you looked at the whole entire world how about won't you tell us what percentage of men
01:38:10.220
you think would choose to victimize somebody in these circumstances okay who i think would actively
01:38:16.540
do it what percentage i don't think it's 40 percent um
01:38:22.860
i mean i i can't really say um i mean i've encountered things like that myself but i also
01:38:33.820
know a lot of really good men and the the other guys are like outliers i don't know maybe 20 percent
01:38:41.020
still a lot of men 20 percent again that's what 30 million or something at least once in their
01:38:47.580
whole lifetime with this whole broad very vague no most men throughout their whole lifetime are
01:38:52.780
never going to commit a violent crime i think it is a smaller percentage of very small doing a lot
01:39:00.220
of that if that makes sense yeah yeah yeah because like 20 that's a lot that's a lot you would think
01:39:06.220
that the hobos in the woods that i like camp next to would be in the like demographic that's higher
01:39:11.500
percentage to do something like that i don't know if i'll phrase that right but no they would be in
01:39:16.860
that higher percentage and yet no one bothered me i did have a bum like throw his shit bucket at me
01:39:23.340
once i i was a correctional officer and we see stuff like that all the time i think another important
01:39:28.620
wait you're a what i was a correctional officer at one point okay well another important thing to
01:39:33.420
know i guess is not necessarily how many men are actually doing it but how many men given the
01:39:37.500
circumstances would do it and that is probably higher than what's actually happening because
01:39:46.540
there were no consequences if there were no consequences for it there was actually an
01:39:50.780
experiment so no you really you think no consequences they would yes i can say i think it's beautiful that
01:39:56.220
you don't think that i think you're projecting a very good internal world that's the history that you
01:40:01.420
don't think that what about i mean the people so are you saying like no criminal consequences yeah no
01:40:06.940
criminal consequences yeah what about the consequences of your mind to or do that well um that too but i
01:40:13.820
think that's okay then let's roll out culture and shaming because there's culture and shaming associated
01:40:21.020
with sa so if you didn't have that present um i mean this is kind of like you're gonna have a lot more
01:40:31.260
because i feel like it's a natural inclination for men to want to dominate women and be aggressive you
01:40:37.420
think it's a natural inclination for men to want to dominate women you mean not by and by but but
01:40:43.500
the context of the conversation here is sa so when you say dominate you mean it's in men's nature to
01:40:48.780
want to sa women if you're considering the definition of sa to be like any form of inappropriate
01:40:59.100
gesture or touching um then yes i feel like a lot of men would do that we're going by thought give
01:41:06.380
me a percentage like uh what percentage of men would do it 15 15 okay go ahead what were you gonna say
01:41:15.900
i just uh well i mean what we do for work like the amount of men that make comments that are just like
01:41:21.820
insane and it's like if if it was a percentage by like if there was no like liability for doing that
01:41:29.260
i feel like it would easily be 40 percent like men would just be what do you mean the men
01:41:33.900
that make comments what do you mean okay men men send you messages like like what nice titties i
01:41:43.100
want to just people say crazy things like you're a sex worker exactly do you i mean yeah that's the
01:41:49.100
world that you decided to be involved in oh no i know but it's just like it's probably different
01:41:53.260
than actually like doing that's not sa right it's probably i think she's factoring in yeah
01:41:57.900
yeah i think that i don't think men should be yeah i don't think men should be sending you like
01:42:04.940
sexually inappropriate messages but that's not sa for a guy to be like oh nice titties i want to
01:42:11.740
could you ever no she's just saying based on those comments that's why her view is that it would be
01:42:16.380
so many because she gets so many comments like that if what was legal if it was legal for for men
01:42:22.220
to just do whatever to women i mean in other countries i mean the stuff that happens to women
01:42:27.260
that i mean if we did a percentage of the entire planet and the countries that like women don't have
01:42:32.300
rights well i don't know about the like i i'm not sure what country in specific you're talking about but
01:42:38.140
perhaps there are some countries where this is a more common occurrence but i can't really speak
01:42:42.860
to that yeah so oh shoot i can't remember what i was going to say um i got i got a question so
01:42:53.100
for those of you who say bear if we go to any zoo in the world and you go to a zoo that has a bear
01:43:00.060
enclosure um now take note that there will be men and women outside the enclosure why are none of the
01:43:07.980
women jumping into the enclosure to escape from the men cultural shaming why haven't we ever heard
01:43:15.980
of that happening uh cultural shaming that's the reason because why would a man like essay someone in
01:43:22.300
a public space like a zoo let's i don't know maybe it's late it's late at night there's nobody around
01:43:27.740
right opportunity if a man was trying to essay me in a public space i wouldn't jump into the
01:43:35.820
enclosure with the bear unless i felt like the bear would avenge me yes the bear would avenge you okay
01:43:45.180
um nick could you pull up that uh the meme thing or whatever about the bear
01:43:49.500
i feel like we've been talking about the bear for now right it's apparently doing well in a
01:43:56.060
hypothetical essay situation all right maddie can you read this brown engineer up to nine feet tall
01:44:02.540
standing up to 1300 pounds claws up to four inches bite force 1200 psi pelt slash fur up to five inches
01:44:11.340
speed up to 35 miles per hour kyle 5 10 ew 174 pounds project engineer said hi to you at the gym
01:44:20.700
kyle's hot bro this is exactly it dude that's exactly it um yeah it's pretty crazy um
01:44:29.980
but i mean i did preface that i'm irrational can i ask you guys here for you said bear if me and nick
01:44:36.300
we're the two men here in the studio if we just transformed into bears right now do you guys think
01:44:40.540
you'd be safer two bears two bears in one room me and nick right now just instantly transformed into
01:44:51.420
two bears you think you'd be more safe or less safe definitely less safe are you still two bears in
01:45:00.460
this room right now like right here like you're a bear right there bam i just boom definitely less
01:45:05.260
safe transform into a bear wait not safe at all okay like conscious wise as well what if they turned
01:45:11.020
into the bears from um mortal kombat oh yeah that would really be dangerous good one
01:45:20.140
berenstein bears you know i mean it could be more safe let me ask you another question um if you were
01:45:25.740
in a bathroom would you rather a man or a bear wanders in oh uh that's a good question just say
01:45:37.100
the man that's different well if a man's coming into a bathroom that i'm in then definitely the bear
01:45:43.740
because why is a man walking into the female bathroom so what if it's like a transgender woman
01:45:48.380
then it's a woman what if he's like a really hot guy
01:45:54.700
oh no yeah you're eyeballing him all night wait actually so question for you i'll know where where
01:46:05.580
you fall on the whole like transgender in the bathroom thing uh do you think the concerns over
01:46:11.180
transgender women going into women's and girls bathrooms do you think that that's uh
01:46:17.100
a reasonable because of your uh hesitance to be in a forest with a with a male do you think that
01:46:24.540
that's a reasonable position to take i mean i think it's fine i think it's fine up to the point
01:46:32.620
where if there's like kids and stuff using that bathroom and what if that like people do crazy stuff
01:46:40.220
like what if like what if a man yeah i can't talk about that one i can't i can't even say that it would
01:46:46.300
make it would make no one's gonna feel comfortable given their authentic take but i would not want
01:46:50.460
a trans woman who has a penis coming into the bathroom with me either yeah personally i'll be
01:46:55.100
the one to say it um i think especially if i have kids not to say that every trans woman is like a
01:47:00.860
essay or because they're obviously not but okay got it i do want to ask one question and then we're
01:47:06.700
going to move on topics because this this bear one always gets a little heavy uh i do want to say
01:47:12.700
rest in peace to that woman who was killed by the bear nick pull that up one more time okay but i
01:47:16.700
don't think she chose her family she she wasn't she wasn't faced with the predicament of man versus
01:47:24.060
bear she didn't get to choose she was 71 news articles back back back uh let me know when she fell
01:47:32.860
asleep eating peanut butter or something it's just like what's crazy to me is right y'all will yeah so
01:47:37.740
rest in peace uh if anybody's new to tuning in uh a woman first uh fatal bear attack in california
01:47:45.740
so this is local to us here in california so uh r.i.p to that lady man um
01:47:54.620
but y'all will go to a bar filled with random men y'all will go home and hook up with random men
01:48:01.500
that's what's crazy to me that's why it's irrational that's why i don't go too far yeah
01:48:06.140
when i first heard it i was like obviously the bear but i get but i get what i get the social thing
01:48:10.860
that people are trying to shed light on like i get it but realistically come on now you're not
01:48:15.660
going to choose the fucking bear no it's just it's basically just like social signaling yes to be
01:48:21.500
like we don't like men basically yeah i would never say that i don't like necessarily think it's
01:48:26.140
that they don't like men i think they're just trying to shed light on a problem and put it into
01:48:29.660
maybe i just think an animal some of them don't like men here to predict their behavior with a
01:48:35.660
brain that has is that is very complex a bear i know if i poke it with a stick i'm i'm probably
01:48:41.420
gonna piss it off and then it's probably even if you don't poke it with a stick you're it's a bear
01:48:45.580
it's a 1300 pound animal that's going that's willing to kill you you you said you've seen bears
01:48:51.340
in person they never bothered you you've seen bears in person they've never bothered you me like
01:48:55.820
any of us could say i mean what are the chances of a man bothering you out in public would you
01:49:00.220
rather interact with higher than the bear probably i think it's about the danger though is is the
01:49:05.740
point here would you would that make sense okay can we say if a bear was going to attack you and a
01:49:09.660
man was going to attack you who would you rather attack like a bear is not going to call me but
01:49:13.100
like you know what i mean still say bear because they're done well the bear will just kill me
01:49:17.980
but who knows the man could torture me like that okay you know do all kinds of depraved
01:49:23.740
shit is there is there a difference between leaving out and live though you know what's the
01:49:29.500
difference uh and also the bear will eat you alive exactly so probably slowly a slow death yes
01:49:36.620
all right this is uh so this is kind of you're just kind of crawling there like
01:49:42.300
so this is kind of a heavy question but i am i'm just really curious to know because i want to
01:49:47.580
better understand like the female psyche on this um and i don't want to linger on it just because
01:49:52.540
it's kind of heavy but like so would you rather be s-aid or killed s-aid s-aid i said
01:50:03.100
i say sounds like collectively we all would rather be there or you choose the man
01:50:09.100
so i can see them yeah well you don't have evidence that's the whole part of like being
01:50:21.020
in the woods is like i mean i guess you can go get a kit done immediately wait can i ask
01:50:24.940
i would choose the man because i support the second amendment okay would you rather encounter
01:50:28.940
a female tweaker or a sober man that's like normal a fucking sober man sober okay sober man
01:50:35.260
yeah yeah drugs i think some people just crazy i saw some guy peeing on himself the other day i'll
01:50:40.220
take the tweaker in la you'll take the tweaker yeah body slammer i have a question no they get back
01:50:45.740
up listen hold on i just thought of a good one i just thought of a good one kept getting up okay if there
01:50:51.500
was a bear in your home let's say you're i don't know you're in a
01:50:56.060
fucking cabin or some shit would you call the police or animal control
01:51:03.260
i don't call the police i don't know if there was a bear broke into your home trying to break
01:51:07.020
into your home maybe it smelled some food in there or something oh no you left a screen door you left
01:51:11.980
the screen door it opened it up whatever if there's a bear in a home would you call the police or animal
01:51:17.900
control animal control animal well i'm it's i'm not asking would you call the police or like you'd
01:51:23.500
call yes you'd call one of them okay animal control and a man would show up
01:51:32.940
that's a good point that's true all right anyways anyways moving on moving on it's funny
01:51:41.260
maddie could you read this one my god i'm simply hosting oh sorry did you mean her or
01:51:47.420
me okay you can read it actually go ahead my god i'm simply hosting a simping symposium
01:51:58.460
symposium for the raven-haired goddess the three on the right yo okay who's who who's what go ahead
01:52:08.780
my god i'm simply hosting a simple symposium for a raven-haired goddess yeah it's the same one
01:52:15.020
one you know but you didn't finish the whole thing okay 10 sorry 8.5 oh wait wait am i on the right
01:52:21.420
too yeah holy fuck can just finish the fucking paragraph where do you work out the three on the
01:52:26.460
right it's disappeared because y'all can't oh my god third time i'm challenged okay so raven-haired goddess
01:52:36.940
10 blonde 5.8 purple nine it's a question for the panel where do you work out in the bedroom
01:52:49.260
i'm sorry that was terrible when's the last time where do i work out i just work at my house
01:52:52.860
when's the last time you got laid it's been over two years i already answered that question
01:52:58.060
it uh who's the raven-haired that's who that's which one is i don't know that's black i don't
01:53:03.020
know i have black black hair is raven hair yeah i never heard that oh yes ravens are black
01:53:08.460
all right can you read this manny alissa when have you ever walked around like you're a five
01:53:14.300
tori excuse me bobby keep the wook life glorious i have no idea what is it oh okay did you mean well
01:53:22.060
i don't walk around like i'm a five because i know because i don't just view myself in terms of like
01:53:26.860
looks so i walk around with confidence because i have a lot of great attributes and i'm and even
01:53:32.540
if you are ugly who cares you can still walk around with confidence um so like i can think my face is
01:53:37.020
a five and my body is a nine or ten and still you know walk around like you're going to treat me
01:53:41.820
anything less than a ten wait who's going to treat you like anything less than a ten nobody is going to
01:53:49.100
they'll get divorced if they do oh so they got to treat you like a ten yes and i don't think the way
01:53:54.060
you treat somebody should be based upon their looks well what does the treatment that treatment
01:53:57.980
entail what does it mean to be treated honesty integrity um so that's only you're not going to
01:54:03.420
cheat on me a decent human being no i think that's what i'm saying i don't think i'm a ten
01:54:08.060
i think my face is a five and i said my body's like eight or a nine but despite that i'm going
01:54:12.300
to be treated like a ten regardless that's the point that i'm making four is good and it just
01:54:17.100
and being treated like a ten means that like they're not going to cheat on you they're going to
01:54:20.780
respect you they're going to make decisions with you in mind like basic on the floor level things
01:54:27.820
okay good to know good to know we're going to get into uh some of our pre-show notes here
01:54:32.780
uh actually you know what before we do that um i need to get up for just a moment maddie do you want
01:54:38.700
to ask your favorite question to ask while i go deal with some stuff the favorite three sure okay
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um what's everyone's body count oh fuck where are we starting
01:54:54.780
yeah where do you want to start like we usually go this every question so i have terrible memory
01:55:00.300
and just give us the number i have terrible memory you could do like a range if you don't
01:55:04.380
know she does she forgot about some of our hookups together some of our three together i literally was
01:55:09.340
like we did what but i would say oh okay we'll start with you i guess i'm in commentary he wants
01:55:17.820
that i'm in the three digit that's all i'm going to give you it's a high three digit but it's it's up
01:55:22.220
there i i i'm a recovered sex addict so i'll just put that out there so oh yeah congratulations thank
01:55:29.020
you thank you my husband knocked the hoe out of me that's that's how i put it thank you
01:55:33.500
you i'd rather not share being shy oh come on range don't be a prude come on you'd say like
01:55:41.660
under okay is it definitely under time okay so then you're you're fine you are a prude
01:55:47.900
six i don't know exactly but and we were talking about it last night but i've had like a series of
01:55:53.900
monogamous relationships mostly so i would say like under 25 but more likely under 20.
01:56:04.300
um i think it's over 40. i have mommy and daddy issues so it's been a long learning journey
01:56:10.940
but i feel grateful because i've learned a lot about what i like sexually from my experiences and
01:56:17.820
what i do not like so yeah and for me i was gonna say if we're counting men women and like scene
01:56:25.660
partners oh i'm sorry i have a little bitty tiny voice so if we're counting men women and scene
01:56:32.140
partners it's at least 50 but maybe closer to 100 because i have bad memory at least how much how
01:56:38.860
oh yeah sure we'll do men and women well definitely majority men because they're easier and i'm shy with
01:56:44.780
the ladies you know so like how many of the 50 to 100 do you think are men the percentage would probably
01:56:51.180
be like 80. oh and then like the other percentage 20 20. yeah i have less female than men in my number
01:56:59.980
i'm bisexual too but i have zero women on my docket so you're not really bisexual you want to add one
01:57:06.460
i'm by myself wait is everyone here bisexual i don't think i am she is she is who said that
01:57:18.540
then you just like if you have if she said she was in between younger like i literally don't even
01:57:24.220
remember we've been like maybe having three sons but she's but she's not bisexual would you say like
01:57:29.500
most of like your bodies were like with her i love no no that was like i think that was only three
01:57:38.940
occasions okay yeah we're not out here just like tag teaming all the time or anything like that
01:57:43.980
sounds like they're going out murdering people you're like how many bodies have you got what's
01:57:48.460
your body just bagging people right that's why they both chose men because they actually want to murder
01:57:53.340
than men i have a serious question i have a serious question for you guys do you if if you're dating a
01:58:00.780
guy and he tells you that he's had his dick sucked a bunch of times by a bunch of different dudes
01:58:06.460
including his best friend is he gay yes he's at least does he like men yes of course he does i think
01:58:12.620
it's different for men and women like i feel like in society like right like it's more accepted for
01:58:16.620
women to sleep with other women like i've slept with a couple women but i don't really consider
01:58:20.380
myself bisexual but i was like i'm curious and like it didn't traumatize me right like i didn't
01:58:25.100
like question myself where i feel like if guys have an experience like that like it's not as
01:58:29.660
accepted like yeah like i ended a pretty serious relationship because i found out a man that i was
01:58:35.020
dating had like gone down on another guy like in college which is so dumb i didn't judge him for
01:58:40.060
it but after he shared that i just like saw him differently no okay but like on one hand given
01:58:44.860
that it is so like against societal norms and they still did it they look you know what i've heard
01:58:51.420
also i don't disagree why do you have i mean i've heard that the space are you going through something
01:58:58.220
for me that killed it i just had an experience i've heard that men are actually better we're talking
01:59:02.940
over each other giving wait your current guy no comment not not the current guy oh not the current guy
01:59:11.260
but if i if i said which one it was then well i'm not gonna say who but someone that i was with is
01:59:17.340
now dating a trans woman who has a penis yay so is that gay do y'all think that's bisexual i think i
01:59:23.660
think it is if you enjoy sexual encounters i think if they have a penis if you're a man who enjoys
01:59:31.180
dick then you are definitely a little bit gay and like i can know okay so here's the nuance on my
01:59:39.260
taking that i think a man can want a woman to peg him and it still be straight because they have a
01:59:43.500
g-spot wait what say that again yeah that makes sense i think a man who wants a woman to like peg
01:59:48.140
him i don't think that's gay because i think it is but i think you sleep with a man who has
01:59:52.540
testosterone running through his body on a fucking biological hormonal level you're bisexual at least
01:59:59.260
i think maybe it's not like gay but it's definitely like gay behavior if it is i mean
02:00:04.060
it's not okay wait fantasy wait we're not allowed to say that it's not straight activity
02:00:11.500
do you think that about like gaming's happy but what i heard i think it's a little sus i i do think
02:00:17.100
it's a little because only because the guys that i've been with who were super into you know
02:00:22.380
i found one trying to hook up with men on craigslist and then the other one is now in a
02:00:27.740
relationship with a trans woman who has a penis and maybe it's very clearly if your dude has
02:00:32.380
their alamed meatball donated 200 any penetration to a guy about his heart yeah mr meatball dropping
02:00:39.580
the knowledge it's like a dominant submissive thing like i don't want a man what have i penetrated his
02:00:44.060
heart with my love no but i've heard that men are actually better at going down on other men
02:00:50.380
what's your next question otherwise they know they know more that's what i've heard i leave for
02:00:56.540
three minutes and they're talking about okay well she's had like some guy in the past that has
02:01:01.420
went down on other guys she's also no other way other way a lot had lots of guys go down on him
02:01:06.620
yeah wait did we do we went all the way around on body count yeah what was ever can i hear it again
02:01:13.420
um over 50 closer to 100 over 40 about 20. wait no no just let them hold on let them say it themselves
02:01:23.020
please so let's start with you go ahead triple digit i don't want to share do you want to do a
02:01:28.140
range she said under very low under nine very low but i just rather six i feel like under 20 like over
02:01:36.060
40 less than what over 40 less than 60 less than 60 okay and then she said this one's 60 or something
02:01:47.420
she said 50 to 100. oh 50 to 100. okay good times all right they must have had good times were they
02:01:57.260
good times me are you asking me were they good times are we asking well because we're not good
02:02:04.060
yeah because i'm wondering in those experiences if they're quality really quick i'll just uh
02:02:09.660
so one of the flakes we put uh nick can you pull up the thumbnail really quick
02:02:13.180
uh guys so we uh have one of the flakes in the thumbnail and uh once we're done with it
02:02:19.820
you can exile that okay she's the one with the blue hair we obviously have the i guess the raven
02:02:25.820
haired girl and the pink haired girl here uh so we're gonna just do a little reaction to the thumbnail
02:02:31.580
since she's not here there's a couple pieces of criticism and commentary i have on this thumbnail
02:02:39.420
and on this photo uh first off gentlemen would you uh would you date a woman who has a sternum tattoo
02:02:48.940
has an under titty tattoo who has i believe fake lips they look a little fake to me a little puffy
02:02:56.380
fake contacts purple and then the the blue it's obviously a wig a blue bob so and i am possibly
02:03:05.900
detecting nipple piercing so uh chat would you date a woman like this i can speak personally
02:03:12.940
there's absolutely no scenario where i would ever date a woman like that uh i might even
02:03:18.860
throw up in my mouth a little bit if i even encountered such a person especially if they're
02:03:23.420
inclined to no show to a commitment that they requested there might be a little vomit in the back
02:03:29.500
of my mouth um so would you i'm just curious guys would you like would you date her chat like that's
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you know you know just wanting your guys's input okay if tell me why i thought that was her for a
02:03:43.900
second john who me samson it was her oh wait before i have you go uh your so your body count is between
02:03:50.620
50 and 100 and is it you said it's like mixed girls guys kind of like 80 20 mostly guys okay
02:03:58.460
go ahead medicine oh i was saying like if you had to date a girl like her and one of those bad things
02:04:04.940
had to go which would you what do you mean one like the sternum tattoo the nipple piercings what's
02:04:12.220
worse the like if you had to pick one to go like only one could go the rest has to stay that's still
02:04:17.740
pretty shitty how about just the being a terrible human being how about that that has time management
02:04:23.820
why did y'all pick the most masculine looking picture of me i look like a lesbian in that picture
02:04:27.900
it's a good photo the i like the the the beanie it's a good look for you okay because i got a big
02:04:33.500
ass forehead that's probably why no i do have a big hair if i was rich i would definitely get
02:04:41.580
like a hair transplant or something so my forehead your hair's fine is that the the second one that fell
02:04:47.740
the table's in the class okay well can your why did it oh boy okay
02:04:57.100
all right uh fuck this table okay i can't it's physically impossible stop
02:05:08.220
can i have you read this one please wow can you have her read this tongue twister also oh my god okay
02:05:15.260
she she sells seashells down by the seashore how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck
02:05:22.940
could chuck wood canton clams clamp can't believe that that was good i really tried
02:05:29.580
i have like a little bit of a speech impediment as well so that's yo kill of cereal thank you man
02:05:34.300
appreciate it thank you that was a perfect test i would like to actually test these women's
02:05:39.180
typing speed like words per minute so one of these days i'm just gonna like get a keyboard and let
02:05:45.420
them do like a typing test and see their words per minute i type with two fingers i type oh my god
02:05:50.220
i can type pretty well just like i hit the space you guys know what your words per minute literally
02:05:54.060
like four fingers like 20 30 minutes 30 words per minute i used to know that i'm low
02:05:59.980
i'm old enough that i took a typing class in high school so um mine was up to 60 words per minute
02:06:05.660
nice that's a good memory i cannot remember from last week i'm gonna get into the pre-show notes
02:06:11.820
here um actually we did the stifler we had i guess a couple times i'm just gonna hide those
02:06:19.340
um pre-show notes so starting with juliette you wanted to talk about the ways in which
02:06:25.420
mon feminism is actually harming both men and women and keeping us from what we actually are seeking
02:06:30.540
do you want to add anything to that do you want to elaborate at all or oh man you jumped right in i
02:06:34.620
wasn't ready okay um i think that it's been really interesting for me over the years like the
02:06:41.740
dating climate was very different i'm 38 now so when i was um single you know like 10 15 years ago
02:06:49.420
it was a very very different world and i feel like with it's not just feminism in general because i feel
02:06:54.460
like that has a lot of meanings right like feminism 30 years ago meant something very different than it
02:06:58.620
does now but i think especially with modern feminism i feel like men and women women especially
02:07:07.580
more for some reason in my opinion have lost sight and i know we talked about this earlier of what the
02:07:12.780
other is actually looking for when it comes to long-term partnership i'm not talking about short-term
02:07:18.780
casual stuff um i think that's been really interesting for me and um yeah i think it's
02:07:25.980
a different world and i think that there are a lot of women who are doing only fans and sex work and
02:07:31.820
all that kind of stuff and really enjoy it and are super happy and i think that's awesome i've also seen
02:07:36.780
the flip side of it too so i'd love to hear your ladies perspectives on that i don't know what your
02:07:41.100
experiences have been you seem like you're really happy with it which is awesome i fully support that i'm
02:07:46.060
very i guess kind of libertarian in that sense i'm kind of like do what you want but i also agree um
02:07:52.380
with brian and kind of some other people who have been on the show where i've also seen the dark side
02:07:56.700
of it and i've i think going back to mommy and daddy issues i think we laugh a lot about that but i do
02:08:01.740
think there's a lot more research coming out about how we were raised and how those family dynamics determine
02:08:08.620
not just how we value ourselves but what we tolerate and seek in in those intimate relationships that's
02:08:15.020
number one i think that secondly i think that as i've gotten older i think that sex means different
02:08:22.380
things to different people right like for some people i feel like sex is about getting off and i
02:08:27.020
feel like for other people it's more about intimacy and connection and yes like chemistry is very
02:08:32.300
important i know especially like with my next partner like if that chemistry isn't there i'm not
02:08:36.780
interested i do feel like that's kind of the glue that holds everything together but i also think that
02:08:41.420
sex is different for men than it is for women a lot of the time and people denying that i'm not
02:08:45.980
saying one necessarily needs it more than the other but it means something different i feel like men can
02:08:51.900
have sex and not get emotionally attached i'm not saying women can't but i do think that there is
02:08:58.060
a biological predisposition there yes they quite literally produce dopamine and vasopressin as opposed
02:09:03.740
to women producing more oxytocin agreed and i don't think that has to do with feminism i think
02:09:08.460
there's some biology there that a lot of people these days maybe with social media maybe with
02:09:12.780
new wave feminism they're just denying that and i think it's it's causing a lot of harm and i feel
02:09:18.300
like such a lame prude saying that and 15 years ago i was never super promiscuous but i definitely
02:09:23.980
had a very different mindset about it i was more kind of like free-spirited just in my mentality and
02:09:29.660
i've really changed the older i've gotten so i'd be interested to hear other ladies perspectives on that
02:09:35.660
so wait do you think that um modern femininity or feminism is uh like ruining sexual relationships
02:09:44.300
between men and women definitely interesting in some ways yes in some ways yes and i'm not like
02:09:49.500
anti-sex i'm all for like i have no issue with that i really don't have any shame issues around that
02:09:54.700
can you give an example like an example of how it's ruining how you think yeah it's an objective fact
02:09:59.820
that second wave feminism contributed greatly to hookup culture yes so she just hit the nail on the
02:10:05.180
head so it's a really good point so for example there's a lot of research coming out and that's
02:10:09.340
my bad for not like being able to cite my sources so i apologize but i think it's pretty easy to look
02:10:13.660
this up but a lot of the the men that are on dating apps maybe some of the women too generally speaking
02:10:20.540
they're not really seeking long-term partnership the people it doesn't matter if it's hinge or tinder or
02:10:26.620
plenty of fish i'm not saying that people can't meet on those apps and end up finding like the
02:10:30.140
love of their life i know that that happens all i can speak on is anecdotally i'm not a scientist but
02:10:35.340
from my experience and 38 years of life right from a sexual marketplace value standpoint 38 is kind of
02:10:40.860
old i don't feel old but like you know i have to think like logically like just from what i've seen
02:10:45.820
like it's it's just a very different world and um oh sorry and um and yeah i just feel like
02:10:52.940
like this idea that women can casually have sex and hook up with a lot of people and just detach
02:10:59.020
themselves emotionally from that and i'm not even talking about drugs or alcohol i don't think that's
02:11:03.340
actually possible and i do know that the one or two one night stands that i've had in my life
02:11:09.020
i was lying to myself pretending that like i didn't feel anything or i didn't care and i'm very very
02:11:14.780
grateful that's one of the few things i got really right in my life is figuring that out super early
02:11:18.540
on because i do think it saved me despite my family upbringing not being perfect or my mom and
02:11:23.420
dad making mistakes like that's one thing i'm so grateful i learned early on in life because i do
02:11:28.380
think it saved me a lot of pain and trauma grid one motorsports donated 200 b the woman prattle is
02:11:37.260
unbearable the patriarchy is standing by i can be in the studio ready to remote in in five minutes
02:11:44.060
which might prevent us all from being bored to death with all this prattle
02:11:48.220
um uh hey grid one motorsports thank you man uh just for the sake of moving things along we're
02:11:54.700
just going to continue on as is but uh good to have you in the stream man we will get you eventually
02:11:59.340
on the call and i'd rather like pre-schedule it instead of it being like sort of impromptu and
02:12:04.780
spontaneous but uh we will get you on the show eventually my man um whether it's in person or a
02:12:10.460
a call in or something i'd just rather like plan it ahead of time than just
02:12:16.460
impromptu spontaneous but good to you good to hear you in the chat man um well you mentioned feminism
02:12:22.540
really quick so why don't i ask going around the table who here is a feminist starting with you
02:12:27.900
i don't like claim any kind of side but i guess like if you ask me questions i probably have some
02:12:34.860
takes that are on either side no i wouldn't say i am so you you wouldn't say you're a feminist
02:12:42.780
no i wouldn't say i'm a feminist just like i'm non-denominational i wouldn't say i'm a feminist no
02:12:49.260
i'm not a feminist i am not a feminist can i ask you to define what that means well i mean there's
02:12:57.980
different definitions people define it differently uh there's a couple different charitable definitions
02:13:05.740
i could give it the way i've described it in the past is this is a charitable excuse me charitable
02:13:11.980
definition is feminism is women's oh it's a woman's advocacy movement and in that sense i would say no
02:13:20.380
it's not it's not an equality movement that's fair and i i actually don't think there's necessarily
02:13:25.980
anything wrong with women's advocacy but it's certainly not in my view it's not an equality
02:13:30.940
movement well i to quote jordan peterson i do think it's like equal opportunity is important
02:13:38.060
but the guaranteed outcome is not is not fair um so yeah i do think that men and women should have
02:13:44.860
equal rights absolutely there should be laws in place to protect women i'm all for that but this
02:13:49.820
hold on why should there be when you say there should be laws in place to protect women
02:13:55.020
what do you mean because that doesn't sound like equality if the laws are only to protect women
02:14:00.700
that's not really egalitarian is it fair i should have clarified um like a family setting like with
02:14:06.220
children or something like that or maybe the fact that women were the ones who lacked the same equal
02:14:11.420
rights so that's why there was like even objectively i'm not a feminist and i see a lot of issues
02:14:17.260
particularly with that second wave feminism um but yeah like you you're not saying that men
02:14:23.660
shouldn't also have rights you're just saying that women had to catch up to the same rights yes but
02:14:27.500
wanting a bank account and whatever else but right now i i can i think it's fair to say like it goes
02:14:31.980
back to the trans debate too sorry to bring that sorry is that a word i'm not allowed to say on here
02:14:35.980
we were talking about earlier okay um like are there any laws that these people don't have that that
02:14:42.300
we have now or i mean just keep it to men and women but i feel like men and women have do have
02:14:46.940
legally the same rights right now for the most part yeah so i feel like i think it's fair that we
02:14:51.260
can we can probably stop at that um but i think the whole idea of men being trash or evil or bad or
02:14:57.260
pieces of shit i really can't get on board with that that's just racism it's yeah are you
02:15:03.740
cpr ice 1824 donated 200 pardon i missed the intro so i don't know your name but divorce i'd like i
02:15:14.380
shot at the title at the title of what like my next husband yeah i don't get it yeah you're shooting
02:15:20.620
a shot you have her instagram what you look like are you smart are you gonna hide behind a screen
02:15:25.260
see price hey she's open-minded she's asking if you're smart what's your iq and she also wants to know
02:15:31.740
your pp size so please include that in your next chat she's dying to know all these things uh okay
02:15:39.420
so feminists some feminists you're a feminist okay good to know uh we'll touch on feminism a
02:15:46.700
little later on in the show uh you said in your pre-show notes men being unwilling to commit and
02:15:52.620
expecting physical intimacy without commitment but you can't blame them given the current climate how
02:15:58.780
women are conducting themselves but you're raised relatively traditionally so it's been a real
02:16:04.540
challenge for you uh just a question for you do you want kids um that's a good question i feel like
02:16:12.300
i would need to have the right partner like i would never want to be a single mother just personal
02:16:16.140
preference i think that'd be really challenging and i think also statistically the studies do show that
02:16:20.700
children do thrive best with both a mother and a father so would i just want a kid to have a kid no if
02:16:26.540
i met a man in the next couple of years who wanted a child and he was the right person yes i would
02:16:31.660
consider that but i don't really want to have a kid after 40 so you don't want to have a well what if
02:16:37.420
you did meet that right guy after 40 i would just have to really consider that i think there's there's
02:16:42.140
some health risks there and i think i physically could right well would you would you want it would not
02:16:49.900
be my preference okay uh you said you're off doc venably donated 200 men with the dark tetrad and
02:16:59.260
women with cluster b are more likely to engage in short-term mating strategies feminism has helped
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normalize all this mental pathology that's totally true well put yep very good point uh thank you doc
02:17:13.820
for nably good to see in the chat man you're you're a legend you also said that you're a business
02:17:18.140
owner you're a relatively high earner you're a very driven person so finding a man who can match
02:17:23.100
and ideally top uh that who's also interested in monogamy isn't easy so you're a business owner you
02:17:29.420
say you're relatively high earner i don't know if you can get you want to give us a range in terms of
02:17:33.180
income sure i'm assuming it's six figures yeah i mean there have been years where we've brought in
02:17:39.500
half a million yeah well in revenue or in profit profit okay who's we me oh okay i'm a corporations
02:17:47.980
so okay like all right do you have partners or is it no what's your business for privacy reasons
02:17:53.980
i'd rather not say just because maybe don't say the name but is it uh let's just say marketing like
02:17:58.540
marketing consulting yeah all right it's just yeah so you're making mid to or low to mid six figures
02:18:07.820
in that range yeah okay yeah you said you've had to teach yourself what it means to be feminine and
02:18:15.740
follow not for the right man but in general uh and you're learning how to become the kind of woman
02:18:23.740
that the kind of man i'm looking for would see it worthwhile to commit to required a lot of change
02:18:28.780
and self-reflection on your part so how were you before and how what what did you change um just kind
02:18:34.700
of i think unaware of myself in a lot of ways um in ways that i was not really appearing masculine
02:18:41.100
physically but but kind of acting very masculine if that makes sense was this before or after the
02:18:45.900
tattoos oh this was way before before you got tattoos okay yeah because i'm it just it's interesting
02:18:53.980
to me you said i mean you're 38 now and you had no tattoos and then it was it 34 35 35 and you're
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right that's a good point it was a very kind of i don't want to say a limiting choice but in some ways
02:19:05.020
a limiting choice for sure but a concession that i pretty consciously chose to make what wait what's
02:19:10.860
the concession um i think that it limits your dating pool i think there's a lot of associations
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with women who have tattoos which i totally understand so then what i guess why did you
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opt to get the tattoos um because i think that i got a very clear idea of my values yeah yeah and i
02:19:29.180
think there are a lot of other ways aside from just how you look physically that you can embody
02:19:33.580
feminine energy as a woman in the sense of letting a man lead um really learning to defer in that way
02:19:41.020
and fully trust someone and i think a lot of that has to do with doing work on yourself and has
02:19:45.420
absolutely very little to do with tattoos but i am aware of how that can come across visually but i
02:19:50.460
think that just seeing the kind of people that i am attracting into my life now professionally as
02:19:54.780
friends um it's been a real indicator that i'm that i'm on the right path to getting to where
02:20:00.300
i'm going and the tattoos i would not say have affected that in a negative way now you said
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your seven-year relationship ended four years ago and you've been single for four years in fact
02:20:10.300
you've stated that you've been celibate for that entire four-year period but you are an attractive
02:20:15.580
woman so i mean why i'm i'm imagining that there are men who have uh demonstrated an interest in
02:20:22.060
you uh do you feel as if your standards are too high thank you um
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or that's possible i think it's i think it's that's always possible right like that we're that
02:20:38.300
we're expecting something that's that's more than maybe what we're worthy of but um i also think a big
02:20:45.020
factor of that is i was kind of a serial monogamous from the time i was like 1920 onwards i was always in
02:20:51.100
like a long-term committed relationship right and i had never really taken the time since i was
02:20:55.740
younger and i lost my virginity to really it sounds really cliche but actually just be by myself and
02:21:01.980
like learn to not like need a partner romantically and taking the time to do that in my 30s the last
02:21:08.220
couple years um i don't think it's so much that i'm like seeking these men and them being rejected so
02:21:14.060
much it's more that like i'm not in a rush to get into something where the person doesn't have the
02:21:19.740
values that i'm looking for it's not really so much about like this guy needs to be six two and
02:21:23.820
making a million dollars and like that that really doesn't matter to me so much it's more just like
02:21:29.740
i'm looking for a very specific set of values and i'm not willing to compromise on those values and
02:21:34.620
because i embody those values i don't feel like i'm shooting too high and i hope that makes sense so
02:21:38.860
it's more about standards to have it's more about integrity it's less like the guy needs to be like
02:21:43.180
rich and really hot like that would be nice but it's actually a different set of things that i'm looking for
02:21:48.460
at this point in my life but in your pre-show notes you said that you're a business owner
02:21:52.060
relatively high earner we talked about that you're a very driven person so finding a man who can match
02:21:58.060
and ideally top that who's also interested in monogamy so that does speak to the values thing
02:22:03.580
yes um but it does seem like you do at the very least want a guy uh would you say you want a guy who
02:22:09.740
in terms of his income uh makes as much or more than you the woman in me does but i understand too that
02:22:18.220
that might not be realistically impossible like possible for me especially at 38 right like
02:22:23.260
because a lot of those men are statistically going to be going for younger women which i totally respect
02:22:28.140
and that's their preference and it makes perfect sense to me um but would it be nice if i met someone
02:22:34.540
who who matched that drive and when i say drive i don't necessarily just mean financial drive as long
02:22:39.660
as they can support themselves and they're like stable it's more drive and they're ambitious right and
02:22:46.140
in their and how ambitious they are and their tenacity and also just having a vision for their
02:22:50.300
life that's important to me all right got it moving to tavia you said you've dated a sexy fireman from
02:22:58.620
spain that you met in bali indonesia yeah you dated a married couple that are open uh so you were like
02:23:06.620
the third wheel or what do you call that unicorn yeah okay are they still together yeah okay uh you
02:23:16.300
wanted to maybe we'll touch on that thing later uh you said you don't oh here's something you disagree
02:23:23.820
on you don't agree with all the discussion about women's and men's roles in relationships i wanted to ask
02:23:38.860
well i think one time yeah loading loading loading one i think one time i like opened up
02:23:45.260
like your podcast and i was like scrolling through and there was just like controversy on like
02:23:50.060
would a man want to be with someone that does sex work and and i was just like what kind of question
02:23:55.900
is that because everybody's so different like why does that one factor matter i feel like someone's
02:24:02.540
job it's like why would why would why would a woman that's young like me want to marry a guy that
02:24:06.860
works a nine-to-five office job that mean to me that seems kind of boring you know like why not
02:24:11.260
a sexy fireman i mean everybody has a different why would it be boring to marry a guy who works a
02:24:15.420
nine-to-five isn't that a perfectly respectful career path to me it's just boring uh so the same
02:24:21.180
objection you have to wanting to date a man who's a blue-collar worker for example who works nine to
02:24:26.540
five why can't men have the exact same objection to dating a woman who fucks other people on camera
02:24:32.780
no no well i'm just saying i don't like the talk like if the question was like why would a man want
02:24:40.700
to date a sex worker it's like well you could ask that question about anything like why why would you
02:24:45.980
want to date someone from walmart why would you want to date someone who works at a pet store why
02:24:48.940
but everybody's different you know so that topic was like irritating for me because i was like why
02:24:53.900
why is it irritating to you because it just doesn't in my am i like with the work that i've done like
02:25:01.900
i've had two people propose to me already and i've said no and i do sex work and it they didn't see me
02:25:09.660
any differently based on that okay so i mean in terms of the conversations we've had on this show
02:25:16.860
uh honestly i kind of don't really care yeah when it comes to if women do sex work on like i don't
02:25:23.900
really care but my prescriptive advice that i give to men is dating a woman who is involved in sex work
02:25:32.140
or was involved in sex work is a suboptimal dating choice so maybe that's your objection there um men and
02:25:39.980
men and women can have any preferences standards and boundaries uh that they want but i mean let me
02:25:46.860
ask you a question can you try to argue my position for me so argue why would somebody not want to date
02:25:53.340
a sex worker like can you think of any reasons um maybe someone that's
02:26:01.500
you know you're about to say insecure it sounded like you're about to say insecure there
02:26:10.460
no i'm not asking what's wrong with that person i'm saying what would be some reasons why somebody
02:26:14.460
would not like negative consequences of dating someone who's involved in sex work maybe someone
02:26:20.220
that has a business they don't want that the idea of their partner to like ruin their reputation sure okay
02:26:27.740
that's a good one yeah um someone that doesn't want to share their person somebody else with
02:26:36.220
anybody else okay what anything else valid oh it's valid yeah well thank you for making my argument
02:26:42.220
for me it's valid i just don't like i just don't like that it's like a common topic that that's just
02:26:49.020
what's irritating to me like why is it always like why would a man want to be with the sex work
02:26:53.260
well here look just to be charitable just to be charitable women who do sex work invariably will
02:26:58.380
probably uh there's a bit of a cope when it comes to this conversation i think if a woman's involved
02:27:06.540
in sex work she'll probably find a guy like this a whole cope of like she's going to be a cat lady
02:27:11.660
and never find a man it's cope especially if she's you know attractive and not a total piece of
02:27:17.340
shit she'll probably find a guy uh however i will say and in terms of prescriptive advice to men that i
02:27:24.860
give i don't recommend it i don't recommend men date sex workers i think it's a sub-optimal dating
02:27:31.500
choice and sometimes you're not always going to get the most optimum partner in your life but it's it is
02:27:37.580
is significantly sub-optimal in very for various reasons and i think the other thing is um just
02:27:47.100
slipped my mind uh slipped my mind but anyways yeah can i ask you can i ask you please what are your
02:27:56.460
reasons for why it's sub-optimal like why would you sure yeah like she gave some reasons no yeah well
02:28:03.740
okay yeah i'll give you a couple so first off uh for example women who do only fans and actually
02:28:09.180
try not to bring this topic up just to be i suppose courteous to the women if we do have only fans
02:28:15.740
girls on the show just not to throw your hustle totally under the bus but y'all become
02:28:21.980
very well practiced in deception and manipulation and lying yep here's why because most of you sell the
02:28:29.180
girlfriend experience and you basically commit in my estimation you commit fraud by saying i'm talking
02:28:37.340
to you i'm not saying all only fans girls do this but most of them do the bigger they are the more
02:28:43.020
likely they are to have for example a typer or to have a chatter but you're advertising yourself as
02:28:49.580
saying i'm talking to you so you become very well versed in fraud and lying and you take you you have no
02:28:57.900
issue with it whatsoever so um you become accustomed you become accustomed and adjusted
02:29:06.700
to making small lies and small lies become big lies so that's one of my issues that i have with it
02:29:12.300
so most of these sex workers are incredibly attuned to manipulation and lying can i defend just my
02:29:20.380
personal experience actually don't we have a tweet related one of some girl had a tweet about
02:29:25.340
this hold on let me see if i don't know oh man i don't know we only have one tweet right nick oh
02:29:34.140
man i could have sworn that i'm gonna double check but uh do you guys acknowledge that girls who do
02:29:40.460
only fans have typers yes many of them many of them yeah that's the ones that are like what do they even
02:29:47.260
put what do they even put in their bio you can talk to me right yeah okay you're lying that that's
02:29:53.180
i'm very it's fraud it's literally fraud very against having okay management companies and all
02:29:58.540
that sure so that's one of my justifications for it in addition to that you uh only fans girls will
02:30:04.460
typically hide the fact that they're in a relationship so you just become very well versed and practiced in
02:30:10.140
your uh deception and manipulation because if you were honest about the fact that you're dating a guy
02:30:16.620
or you're married or you have a relationship it would hurt your bottom line secondly when it comes
02:30:20.780
to the typing and chatting thing uh if you were telling the guys by the way it's some dude in bangladesh
02:30:26.780
who's getting paid five dollars a day to be sexting with you and you're sexting with the dude it would
02:30:32.700
hurt your bottom line so you're doing this sort of fraudulent misrepresentation
02:30:37.420
uh on that level i object to it in addition in terms of the actual content that you're making
02:30:44.380
uh and i actually think the fraudulent misrepresentation is worse than the fact
02:30:48.380
that there's nude photos of you uh floating around the internet same we agree on that so
02:30:53.500
for example like sales huh what about people in sales what do you think about them if they're
02:30:59.900
if they're fraudulently if they're making fraudulent claims and they're enticing people it's called uh
02:31:05.420
uh fraudulent i think it's fraudulent inducement into a wait fraudulent misrepresent i can't
02:31:12.620
remember the specific legal term but uh it could open someone up to civil liability if they lie about
02:31:19.260
their product true but people in sales i feel like do it all the time so there's something there's a
02:31:24.860
sales principle called puffery like leaving things out of the well i mean it depends it depends what
02:31:31.820
i would technically consider lying or fraud if something is intentionally left out can i interject
02:31:36.780
when making a sale can i interject because here's the thing i i used to work for jenny craig for three
02:31:42.140
and a half years as a um program director i'm not selling lies i'm selling hope and like the fascination
02:31:48.540
that they're going to be able to to lose weight right you are instilling hope and faith in these men
02:31:53.340
that they have a shot with you so i think that's part of what brian is saying too is sort of like
02:31:57.580
you guys are give you painting this fantasy like oh baby i only want you i'm only thinking of you
02:32:02.700
you're gaslighting them i think everybody's almost all men do to everybody so that they can get into
02:32:08.060
their pants that's 90 okay so if i can acknowledge that that's wrong can you not acknowledge that women
02:32:13.580
doing it is also wrong i absolutely agree with you i don't have a i'm not disagreeing with you on that
02:32:20.460
okay but i just think that the standard should be the same for men when it comes to their interactions
02:32:24.780
with women because they will also act like oh i want to be with you when they really just want
02:32:27.980
to sleep with somebody but they're not getting paid for it don't the men already have this
02:32:31.580
understanding we know somebody that gets paid for it we know some men that get paid for it yeah
02:32:36.540
do these men actually buy into the the thought that these women are interested in them absolutely
02:32:42.300
i mean how much money are they spending i think it's genuinely a fetish for men that they
02:32:47.260
they want degradation i mean and i think at the same time it's also in a way healthy for men that
02:32:53.340
you know need some sort of somebody to talk to and like for me that's what i make my platform about
02:32:59.900
like you have like a place to come and be yourself and express when you're lonely while you're naked
02:33:04.940
and fingering yourself and only no they i'm talking about them not me but like i think i think sex work
02:33:12.060
is super important because i think if we didn't have it that there would be a lot of men that what that
02:33:17.340
have needs that aren't getting met and that makes things dangerous so your argument is if there wasn't
02:33:23.980
sex work that men would just be on a rampage just like essaying
02:33:27.740
i think it would be scary i mean that's what porn is for the only the only difference between
02:33:33.100
only fans and porn is that they get a reaction from you as opposed from porn
02:33:37.020
that's the only difference you i mean you are technically porn that's what only fans exactly
02:33:41.900
experience can i ask you something brian are you a do you support capitalism
02:33:47.740
oh you're libertarian okay i know where you're going uh yeah i'm in favor of capitalism okay so
02:33:52.220
there's a market for only fans so do you equally hold the men who create the market accountable
02:33:58.460
yeah i mean i don't hold these men who like pay for these girls only fans in high regard
02:34:04.380
let's say your guy friend comes to you and he's like i want to get this girl's only fan are you
02:34:08.540
just saying well you shouldn't because she's x y and z or should are you also like hey like you
02:34:13.500
should probably contribute to society in a better way than creating this market which objectifies
02:34:17.340
women and can lead to all the negative things that you talk about well there's supply and demand right
02:34:22.460
so so if you're a capitalist yeah i don't have anything wrong with capitalism i don't actually
02:34:29.020
frankly i don't give a fuck about sex work but from i i look at it from a dating lens so my prescriptive
02:34:35.100
advice to men is don't date a woman who has photos of herself fucking other men on camera
02:34:42.300
and i think that's fine i'm just wondering if you also tell men like hey you probably shouldn't
02:34:45.900
be subscribed i don't have a double standard on this okay ladies if you don't want everyone that
02:34:49.900
does only fans fucks my own camera that's fine but it's not like i have a double standard on this
02:34:54.300
women if you don't want to date a man who's a porn star that's totally fine i don't have like
02:34:59.260
so this is kind of not like a gendered thing necessarily but so do you think really i think
02:35:05.820
like when it comes to dominance in a man i find it way like i find it way more attractive and way
02:35:10.620
more dominant when a man holds other men accountable like that's when i view a man as a real leader
02:35:15.580
it's easy for men to sit around and be like you shouldn't want a woman who does that but it's harder
02:35:20.060
for a man to be like hey homie you probably shouldn't be subscribing to this shit i make i make this
02:35:26.060
prescriptive claim all the time i say men you shouldn't even be following women on instagram
02:35:32.220
you shouldn't i don't follow any girls on instagram you shouldn't be liking their
02:35:36.620
shit simping for them leaving fucking lame ass comments that's me holding men accountable
02:35:41.900
men should not do that they shouldn't be paying for of they shouldn't be subscribing to it um
02:35:47.900
but like i don't really give like would look would society probably be better if there wasn't
02:35:52.940
like porn and sex work probably at the end of the day though i'm not like i i typically that's
02:35:58.460
why i'm when i do have of girls or sex workers on i'm typically not making actual like
02:36:04.300
criticisms of that specifically it's always from a dating friend a dating lens where i'm basically
02:36:10.540
saying guys suboptimal to date a woman who has an only fans
02:36:17.580
and you're saying it's because of the characteristics but if their porn star no porn porn's worse yeah so
02:36:22.460
okay i mean while of is there i mean if she just does traditional porn and then she does of
02:36:30.220
there's like different considerations there i mean look most of these of girls are just like
02:36:35.500
constant liars they lie about everything we've had them on the show they lie about their age they lie
02:36:42.300
about everything they lie they make up stories for content blah blah blah it's why i'm um in any case so
02:36:48.860
look i think it is suboptimal so yeah i don't know it's just oh here's the other i mean the other
02:36:57.980
reason i mean i kind of already touched on it it you're
02:37:04.540
as a woman your future husband and children will not appreciate naked photos of you being available on
02:37:10.460
the internet there's like the potential for bullying for the child um don't have kids and just as
02:37:18.940
somebody they're around meatball donated two hundred dollars thank you brian is right on the money he's
02:37:25.980
a brave thank you man he's a pioneer it's good good to have you back good to have you back uh thank you
02:37:31.020
bro uh look i mean you're doing it it is what it is but uh yeah that's a great comment i think these
02:37:42.220
type of conversations also come up really often because a lot of like the sex workers that we
02:37:47.580
have had on the show are like struggling really hard to find someone christ his lord ski u four yard
02:37:53.100
donated two hundred dollars so the sex industry is helping men the human race got along just fine
02:38:00.700
without hardcore corn for literally all human history for thousands of years is our society evolving or
02:38:07.820
unraveling unraveling definitely unraveling is what's happening we are unraveling they were hosting like
02:38:16.060
sex parties there's like mentions of like all kinds of orgies and like i mean the romans were
02:38:21.100
definitely turning up like slabs and yeah go back to greece man they was they was fucking everywhere
02:38:27.180
they was i mean honestly then naked women were considered art they just and they were statues
02:38:33.980
everywhere i mean you could argue that it's about the same you could argue that without the same things
02:38:38.700
happening now except they're recording it and selling it you could say that without corn they were doing
02:38:42.860
more in-person of cereal donated two hundred dollars car salesman with a perfect junker jewelry
02:38:50.380
salesman pushing a flawless necklace an insurance salesman with the bulletproof deal an of girl
02:38:57.260
with the wettest content tell me hard her daddy yeah i mean look to your point about you know holding
02:39:05.820
men accountable i don't think they should be subscribing to only fans i don't think that they should be
02:39:10.780
following these ig models on instagram ulysses the pagan donated two hundred dollars the current ceo
02:39:18.540
of of keely blair female running a corn site females just as well can be dirt balls is the ceo of
02:39:27.340
i thought it was a guy oh no the owners are men of only fans well we know that women i'll do a call
02:39:32.940
to action right now i'll do a call to action to men right now uh we'll start perhaps with something
02:39:37.500
simple to all the guys who are watching right now uh take out your phone if you guys
02:39:46.140
yo stay safe thank you for the raid dude appreciate it man you're a fucking legend we're
02:39:50.940
talking about degeneracy guys open up twitch nick guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever stay safe
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dating meta of being a world of warcraft player so if you play world of warcraft what that means
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for your dating prospects now these girls are going to tell you if you have a better shot with them if
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you play alliance versus horde you know if you're a gnome mage or gnome warlock like what your chances
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how that how that goes but if you're watching the stream and you're not following drop us do me a little
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favor boys drop us a little follow in the chat yo stay safe thank you again for the raid man really
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appreciate it uh i forgot what we were talking about uh we were talking about social deviancy oh
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i was going to do a call to action okay call to action there's any men watching if you have
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instagram and you're following any women i guess like if it's like your sister you can stay stay
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following her uh you're you can follow your sister and your mom that's it what about comedians what if
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they're interested in one specific woman and they're not just simping for random i still unfollow
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men can't follow hot chicks so you don't want them to be interested only in men
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brian unfollow if you pull out your fucking phone boys unfollow every single girl no it's not look on
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instagram if you're following any hot girls and somebody it's a red flag i'm not following red flag
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i follow i don't know following one two three four five six
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i mean thank you for the gifted 10 subs guys just unfollow all these ig models and all that
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shit it's question well that's not the majority of women hold on like the majority even if it's a
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normie check unfollow her what if you like nowhere oh my god what about like you go to work with her
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and you want to see her life's progress comedians or people who have the platform to you know progress
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entertainment that's not sexual if you're following hillary clinton you can stay no
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why would you follow hillary clinton just kidding because she keeps hot sauce in her purse that's
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why uh yeah never mind she's not she's not black we'll just say that wow wait what that's that's
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that was in response to like a video where yeah the hot sauce thing where she was pandering
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talking to black people oh she was trying to get cool with them like yeah just by saying
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just to just to reiterate here kind of my objections to when it comes to dating women
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who are involved in sex work when it comes to only fans you become on a long enough timeline you become
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very well versed and practiced in the art of lying and deception change your name change your age
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lie about your relationship status you lie about everything this starts to become habit typically if
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people start being becoming practiced in lying it starts to just you keep you know you just keep doing
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it i'm honest about my age and my relationship and all the others if if an untruth if that untruth
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brings you closer to fleecing the money out of the pockets of your targets you're going to lie
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and so a lot of these only fans become very well practiced in this also some of them are involved
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in like romance scams they're literally scamming the dudes i'm not saying that's the case for you guys
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we talked about the typers we talked about the chatters you'll lie about oh talk to me baby and
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then it's some dude that's like most of these most of these of girls have a typer a chatter and it's a
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it's a dude you're like basically force you're making these guys gay basically so are you telling
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them to unfollow all the women huh that's yeah you're making them gay but that's very that's
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very traditional that's very like keep it keep it pg all the time unless you're intending to marry this
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chick wait what uh i don't know that's that's a very pg that's like a very i don't know adolescent
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perspective to be like it's very innocent like what's innocent i have no idea what you're talking
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about innocent to like unfollow every woman that isn't your sister or your mom wait it's innocent
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yeah it's innocent so wait are you do you like it i'm a little confused yeah i mean it's innocence is
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good no what do you what do you what do you mean you better you want you're saying that men unfollowing
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every other woman is an innocent act it's like a naivety it's it's it would be an innocent act but
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in this in this instance here saying seeing as we have stay safe you just joined us
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we have wait can you guys not be can you guys i don't know what what are you fucking doing i'm sorry
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what are you telling her i can't say it i was telling her something that i wish i could say but i can't say
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it because you said we can't say it well okay i was saying if i won't whisper anymore okay what were
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you can you tell me what it was loosely about well you guys are talking about if a guy unfollows all
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women on social media i was gonna say that would make him look pretty oh okay you know in that like
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not straight exactly it's like why is this guy that's what i was saying following a bunch of
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dudes and no women yay it'd be concerning can it's like why only dudes it's like the guys trying to
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revert to virginity his holy state but how many women will complain about guys who are following a
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bunch of random ig thoughts yeah if it's just random ig thoughts then yeah absolutely yeah anyone can
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be insecure about but you said normies too like that's where the argument is coming anyways so
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bring it to world warcraft anything on social media it's not really real like well i mean if you're
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if you're an only fans model you can't have a problem with your guy following other women you're
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an only fans model yeah exactly yeah like so if if you tell your guy if you're an only fans model
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and you're doing all kinds of horny girly shit on only fans you know and then you expect your dude to
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respect you and not follow other women you're delusional you're delusional to think that your
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guy's not going to follow other women think like even cares about that like why is my dudes following
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other girls because women are dumb and they do they get upset i've i've known plenty of only fans women
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who are like i can't believe he's following this girl that bitch you are undressing in front of a
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bunch of men all over the world how dare you have that even remotely double standard that your guy can't
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do what you're already doing and you're promoting it and you're pushing it on them and you are
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manipulating and you are lying and you're deceiving these other men you because not me my dude watches
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porn i love it i'm not saying every woman i'm not saying every but a majority of them i don't know
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and just the last thing i'm i'm kind of territorial so i don't want other men to be like looking
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at my girl like that a lot of men are and that's i mean that's what i mean a lot of guys look at a
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woman and that's monogamy that's what monogamy thinking things if they're attracted to them you
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can't be an only fans model and then say you're a monogamist there's just no way you can't say
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monogamish you can't yeah you can't you can't you can't even represent the whole monogamy thing
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because of what you do because it is a double standard it's it's hypocritical it's hypocrisy
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i mean if you're not sleeping with anybody else and you're not meeting up with anybody else you're
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sharing your body you're sharing your body and these personal things that should be only reserved
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for the person that you're with or married to if you're married and you're an only fans model and
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you're sharing your body on the internet and i can pay to see your vagina hole you are not a
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monogamous woman i'm sorry you're showing your private parts to other people who are not your
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husband because when you take that vow when you get married you're vowing to be for that other
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person and only for that other person unless you're polyamorous it's a completely different
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thing but if you i mean maybe if that's what you vow though i mean everybody you can vow different
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let me ask you let me ask you a question you do you plan on being in a monogamous relationship
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at some point in your life yes okay are you going to do it before or after you leave only
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fans there around meatball donated two hundred dollars would you guys quit of all making any
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kind of content if you were in a relationship exactly thank you mr meatball that's that's exactly
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my question yeah is the man gonna like make up for the i don't do only fans but just hypothetically
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is a man gonna make up for the financial differences like are you going to be a provider
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and substitute whatever they were making why should he have to why should i have to give it up
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yeah you know everybody has a right because you want to be in a monogamous relationship
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wait that's you're assuming that they want to be in a monogamous but that's why i asked i i asked her
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and she said yes she wants to be in a monogamous relationship married but it's sort of a false
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equivalent equivalence like it would make more sense to say would you be okay with your man doing only
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fans some guys are okay some guys think it's it's hot and they get turned on by it and and that's
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literally and then once the once the honeymoon phase is over and he leaves you because he can't
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take it anymore then what but this for me this isn't forever this is right but that's why i said
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for your 20s express my sexuality and and saving money and that's why i said your 20s is for
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fucking around finding out who you are so you know you're not quite at the threshold where you should
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be figuring yourself out yet but you should probably stop only fans before you figure yourself out
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um i mean i'm not figuring myself out right now different everyone has different tolerances for
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social deviancy and sexual deviancy yeah and any rational guy going into a relationship
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or looking for a potential relationship he's not going to seek a woman who is putting herself out there
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um as a sexual being to other men to other men there's gonna be a lure like guys look for a
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lure in women they do look for a little bit of competition but that's not competition that's like
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i just think it's crazy it's just exposure for like a whole group well no but here's the thing
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i don't think that's most most men most men that are okay with it are not high value men i mean i would
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not and they're not the men that you're going to want to marry exactly what these two what these
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two ladies just say i think one thing that might be forgotten here and again no judgment honestly no
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judgment but one thing that i that i think might be being forgotten here is that what men and i am
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generalizing here but generally speaking i think that what men fall in lust with is very different than
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what men fall in love with and i think a lot of times maybe because of the way we were raised the way we
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value or don't value ourselves i think especially as women i've seen a lot of people conflate those
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two things and i think it causes a lot of pain on both ends i think a lot of men are very confused too
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do you do bg content no you only do solo content okay so i mean obviously there's scales to it like a
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girl who's only done like lingerie stuff on only fans it's not quite as suboptimal it's girl who's done like
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like gang bangs and sex you know and like bg content but in my opinion but it's still suboptimal
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like if some like to me like my standards right like i would never go and do mainstream porn because
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to me like i just can't do that with sex like and and i think if to me a woman doing mainstream porn
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and having sex with a bunch of different men literally on camera like you can see yeah that's
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different that's bad that's not a vibe i think a woman that does boy girl content on only fans with
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her partner her boyfriend husband whatever it is and then and then maybe a divorce happens and it
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doesn't work out and now she wants to date someone else is that person gonna judge her for having sex
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with someone else whether it's on camera or not like you're gonna be upset that your your girlfriend
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that was dating people before you had sex with other people yeah okay can i have a question i have
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a question i have a question do you believe that doing only fans does that give you confidence does
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that build your confidence do you feel more confident because you do only fans i i think
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actually yeah because i think it's a false sense of confidence because here's the here's the reason why
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i say this because only fans gives you confidence because it's based on looks it's only based on looks
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you're not having pulitzer prize conversations with people that are checking out your titties and
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your vagina so the second the only fans is done or your looks fade then what are you left with what
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are you left with well i think i mean obviously none of us really know each other that well but like
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before i did only fans i had my own remodeling company at the age of 19 but again doing manual labor
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remodeling and uh i actually that's my passion and that's i want to own an all women's construction
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company one day and uh this is just something that's fun for me and i have oh my god who the
02:53:15.100
hell can't oh the ma the construction company well just just to add to her point it's just like
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obviously there's an answer to belittle her goals like they're just just your goals are valid if you
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have this alternative path that you want to seek then why what is the appeal in dueling only fans to
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you and what do you think it is the appeal of doing only fans to a multitude of women that actually do
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it i think it's for me it's an ability to make a a great like future for myself without a man like
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i don't need a man in my life and if there is one that wants to be there and love me for where i'm at
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and actually knows me and like what i've been through then i don't think they would can i can
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i suggest something the quality of man and human that i think you're going to want later in life
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is the kind of man who's going to want to be needed by you i think y'all would be surprised who
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subs only fans like y'all have this idea that it's like the kind of man that you want is not
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going to subscribe to only fans those are the exact guys that are subscribed yeah people just don't
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know yeah give an example it's the preachers that are buying institutes yeah but i'm not looking to
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marry a preacher hold on hold on i'm going to make things very simple you're saying it okay no it's
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not so your original question do you want to just restate your original question to me is like why am i
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what why do i object to dating an of girl is that was that your original question um i don't even think
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it was a question it was just the original thing was like the topic that i brought up i just here
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like look i'll pull up i'll pull up the notes uh okay so you don't agree with all the discussions
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about women's and men's role in relationships and then you went to there mm-hmm okay i agree with
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matt by now on your only fans you state that you have daddy issues so a girl needs some daddy daddy's
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plural lol which seems to indicate that you a pick me girl well it seems to indicate that you
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would entertain multiple men so you've already made an admission on your own only fans that you
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have an inclination towards dating multiple men this is obviously a massive red flag although given
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given that i said that that people bullshit on only fans you could certainly be lying you also say here
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you can see me fully nude squirt give jo eyes striptease role play get the full girlfriend experience
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request customs and you love to spoil and be spoiled so you're giving the girlfriend experience
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so if i was dating you for example and you had you're giving 10 other men the girlfriend experience
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uh i'm getting your divided romantic attention and sexual attention
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wait do you have a typer yes or no no hmm you sure my page isn't big enough for that your page
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isn't big enough once it is like i will make it very clear like um you're gonna make it clear she'll
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get a typer then you're paying a guy in bangladesh ten dollars a day someone is
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helping me sell my contract yeah you're really gonna put that in your of by the way the guy the
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guy who's pretending to be me that's a dude yeah i mean i think you'd say that really she would
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never she would never say that is like putting who into a box all the girls that do only fans
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everybody has a box am i putting them in the fact that they have typers and chatters which is
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well like saying that they all that all of them i don't think all of them lie you don't think all
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of them i know for a fact they don't really enjoy but it's isn't the majority though it's
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like 70 percent it's probably you guys lie about oh my god all of it everything um in any case so
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i do want to make some world of warcraft related comments here so dating and only fans girl
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nick can you lower the volume just a little bit is kind of subpar you know it's like a pretty weak
02:57:10.460
build you know like this best in slot it's gonna be a girl who doesn't even have an instagram
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probably kind of a shy girl to be honest um like
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yeah for the streets um like i don't know some guys look some guys i'll give it to you
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they'll still date you they don't care about min maxing they're happy with no f girl maybe just like
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running five mans and shit you know like they're never gonna raid molten core like they're never gonna
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get they'll just like do five mans like for their whole like world of warcraft career and they're
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gonna like have a suboptimal build and like if they ever do maybe they'll do like a pug
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raid and they'll like maybe parse in like the 50 percentile but they're happy to just get some
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dungeon loot here like maybe if they're lucky they'll get like a purple like one of those
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shit tier purples from like the uh like a five-man raid you know like maybe that maybe if they're rogue
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they'll get fell striker from rend in ubrs you know upper black rock spire but you know me
02:58:10.300
personally i want those 99 parses and that's why like me personally i wouldn't date a girl who does
02:58:15.580
only fans and you know but these guys who are like in dad guilds and wiping on lucifron and molten core
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yeah like they'll you know like noobs they'll probably can you put on the the math symbols
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what do you mean anyways you know like you know like wiping like the guys who are wiping on lucifron
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like they'll probably date like an only fans girl it's because they can't get anybody else
02:58:39.100
that was impressive can you put on the math symbols the one the one where you're doing
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all the calculating at this table are probably really turned on right now what the one where
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you're doing all the calculating it's too late the moment has passed all right maddie can you read
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this oh their armed meatball donated two hundred dollars give me tear gear or give me death
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yo mr meatball give me tear gear or give me death well put dude mr meatball some
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fucking tier three nax rama shit can you boost the audio nick um but uh yo mr meatball once again
02:59:10.540
hold on let me hit you with the he's a brave and a decent man he's a pioneer good to have you
02:59:15.100
good to have you back man okay uh maddie can you read yeah this one sec it's coming in
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panel million dollar question why call yourself a feminist that seems exclusive why not call
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yourself a humanist or equalist well you're the only person who said you're a feminist right so
02:59:34.780
yeah do you want to answer that one well i before i was continuously calling myself a female advocate
02:59:40.940
and not necessarily a feminist but i do consider myself a feminist because the differences between
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men and women given not necessarily the physical stature and but like intellectual capacity between
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men and women is so negligible and you're never going to be able to quantify it so how the heck can
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you discriminate one against the other i think men and women are now competing for their spot in
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the workplace for instance and why call myself a feminist not a humanist uh i don't know it's
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the terminology feminist is specific to females and uh catching up in the rat race so and a humanist
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i mean i don't i'm also of the opinion that feminist feminism is not always going to be a necessary
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force in the world like there will be a point where feminism is not needed because women will
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have equal rights to men do we not have equal rights now well not in all parts of the world but
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what about in the united states in the united states i would say it's fairly equal the only thing that i
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wait hold on hold on hold on what's going on in texas i don't know all the controversy that that's
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just happened in texas with what everybody knows women's rights i don't women's rights what what
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women's rights they're now denying um like medical abortions for women from what i understand like
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even if it poses a risk to the woman's health they basically have to be dying they literally
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have they have to be dying in order to get help yeah okay so let me ask you a question let's assume
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that they did allow abortion under those circumstances would you still feel that
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there is an abridgment of women's rights if all other abortions were outlawed
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or is it only the the only abortions you care about are the ones where the woman's life is at risk
03:01:45.020
um oh wait hold up repeat that one more time one more time well you you guys are citing to an
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extreme example here that women even women well that's just an example that's happening right you
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you asked for an example like that's an example right so you're you're fine so just so i understand
03:02:00.300
are you saying you're fine with abortion being banned but it should be allowed in the scenario where
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women their lives are at risk i just think women should be able to have control over their own
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health and their bodies like you support abortion so you're pro-choice regardless yeah just i'm pro-choice
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okay okay what does that have to do with women's like like equality because right now women literally
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have to be dying but but when it comes okay when it comes to feminism and equality you're the the
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the viewpoint the standpoint is in comparison to men in comparison to men men have no reproductive rights at all
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it's not clear to me if abortion rights have anything to do with inequality insofar as men have no option at
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all when it comes to reproductive rights so it's not evidence it's not because it's not men can't
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it's not your medical right but if men don't have any sort of say at all wouldn't equality actually be
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for abortion to be entirely illegal wouldn't that be equality
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i don't know if it if it's not even something that you can compare because men don't carry
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children so this is such a redundant conversation it's not redundant because if we're having a
03:03:21.900
conversation and health and like men don't have to have kids so like if a woman is on the verge of
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dying and that's i think that's more of a human health care it's like health it's like health care
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right but it's not about it's not about um it's not coming from a viewpoint of equal like men have
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this right and women don't it's more of a human rights issue right because a male can't carry babies
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so you can't even compare the two things well it's mainly a man has the choice on whether or not he
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wants to get the snip snip right or if he wants to nut so does a woman right but do you want a nut in
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there like that's you that's that's that's the caveat you're basically when it comes to men you're
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basically a bronze bronze age pro-lifer oh okay so let me ask you a question
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is consenting to sex as a man consenting to fatherhood yes yes yes okay as a woman is consenting
03:04:23.180
to sex consenting to motherhood yes not to me it's not okay so let me ask you a question
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would you ever tell a woman who was inclined to get an abortion and if she didn't want a child would
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you okay let me let me walk it back a little bit what would you tell a man who got a girl pregnant
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and he didn't want to get a girl pregnant what would you tell him if she wanted to keep the kid and he
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didn't um tell her i would say that just be the best father that you can and uh because it is
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what if he's upset about the root this reality that he's about to face he has an option to sign his
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rights away no he doesn't without no he doesn't it's a thing okay hold on they don't tend to do it
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very often okay but would you tell him something would you tell him something along the lines of
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tough you should have thought of that before having sex with her your option would sometimes
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so maybe it depends on the relationship your option some people that get pregnant
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to some of the men i'm like why would you even sleep with that guy i mean i mean you can't just
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sleep you just shouldn't have a double standard if you're going to be pro-choice and then you can't
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tell men you shouldn't have had sex if you knew what it could lead to if you wouldn't say the same
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thing to women i'm not going to victim blame but it's you're literally i just think that's like
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that's the same thing that pro-lifers say to women oh well you should have kept your legs closed
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not that i agree to that but i think that's a horrible thing to say
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but i mean can we all agree that that's a double standard though like yeah i mean there's
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a double standard there's always a risk nutting inside that's different because there's options
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like condoms oral anal pulling out like cool you came in there you can still have sex without
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impregnating someone birth control right but let's say that like the woman lies about let's say the
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woman lies about being on birth control or lies about her fertility well then let's say she's a bad
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situation let's let's even say let's even say she is on birth control but a pregnancy a pregnancy
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still happens or you did take precautions but you know sometimes it can happen in that case i feel
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like he don't need to worry because the mom is probably feeling the same way like oh this was an
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accident well what if she keeps the kid and he didn't want a kid
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i mean you have to consider the reasons for why people of like biological age do not want children
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and it's because of social circumstances and financial circumstances most of the time they're
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not ready or they can't have them they can't well i mean yeah that's more of like a
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okay that's a so wait what's your what do you what's your argument my argument is that essentially
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when you're sorry i got interrupted so i can't remember go on it's it's like
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why do you not want to have a kid it's for certain reasons so you shouldn't be having sex
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if you're not ready to have a kid and you're not willing to take the precautions to
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i don't even know what you're trying i don't even know what you're trying to say look ultimately what
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i'm trying to say is is that this conversation about abortion being like some inequality that
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women face it has nothing to do with equality or inequality men don't have any reproductive rights
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so if we're if we're talking about this from the lens of equality the actual equality would be for
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abortion to be outright banned in the united states yeah it's a human rights issue it's not a
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it's not well it's it's within the purview of women's rights but it's not from like a
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a comparison point of view in terms of the the framework is not about equality no
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but it's not women women not having the right it's not always possible women not having the right
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to have an abortion in texas is not evidence of inequality that's what i'm trying to argue i didn't
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already it's i don't know somebody was for me i mean for me it's like a health thing if a man
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wants to go into a there and we call donated two hundred dollars it's the dave chapel joke if they
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can decide to have a kid you should be able to abandon them but generally don't expose yourself to
03:08:59.180
downside risk you aren't willing to experience well put mr meatball if women are allowed to murder
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the kid the man should at least be able to abandon and walk away absolutely but that that would be
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equal uh unfortunately that's not an option in any state whatsoever that's not true what about sperm
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donors what women who are looking to have children yeah that's not really super related though maddie can
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you read this chat why do women consent to sex but not consent to the possibility of life sex leads
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to procreation that's simply biology newly right-wing girl i love your content brian it's changed my life
03:09:43.500
thank you yo ashley b good to uh good to have you in the chat thank you for the message appreciate it
03:09:49.180
very much thank you ashley you are a legend and a scholar okay kevin so sorry jane zanesville
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i don't really get it me neither somebody who's jane zanesville so sorry jane all right kevin oh was
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she the one that got mauled by the bear no that was something miller i don't think so rest in peace to
03:10:11.980
the woman who got mauled though that was intense okay where were we in our notes we were talking to
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tavia here let's go back to tavia you dis was there anything else you disagreed on or come on there was
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more that was definitely that's definitely it honestly you said you don't agree with all the
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women humiliation that happens on the show i know it's intentional and for the viewers so what
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specifically do you mean by excuse me the women humiliation that happens on the show well i mean
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like intentionally talking about things and doing things to like incite a reaction that you know is
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going to happen because literally like i watch one of the podcasts and you started doing the warlock
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talk and then you're literally zooming in on the girls in space that are like annoyed at you for
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talking about it because they're like clearly you know most of us have no idea about warlocks and
03:11:10.860
it's like intentionally because you're talking about world of warcraft or whatever and it's like bruh
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how how is wouldn't that be more me humiliating myself than me humiliating women talking about
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world of warcraft yeah he's he's he's casting himself under the bus that's a 50 dkp minus what the
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fuck was that shit that was funny um anything so just is that the that's that was your gripe the
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world of warcraft stuff i just like things like that yeah okay give me can you provide one example
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of a time i humiliated a woman on the show well i mean i probably have to be honest but but that was
03:11:53.260
just one of the examples can you give me another example you wrote it i'm just that's the only that's
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one of the examples i don't example honestly i've watched a lot of like the viral clips of of of
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this podcast and it's not you ever humiliating them it's them humiliating themselves because i i
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couldn't wrap my mind around the girl who cried because he asked her well what's misogynist and she
03:12:18.940
started crying and left i could i wanted to strangle her i wanted to throat punch her like are you
03:12:24.700
kidding me grow the fuck up punch yeah i mean yeah that was sad though it wasn't sad it was stupid
03:12:30.780
she was stupid she was dumb for acting like a baby don't go on a podcast that's going to talk about
03:12:36.060
these topics if you can't handle it if you're gonna sit there and cry like a little bitch everyone's
03:12:40.380
gonna have everyone's gonna have unique reactions i didn't so she deserved it but yeah it is that it
03:12:47.260
is definitely socrates quote trust not when a woman weeps for what is that is that white woman tears
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or uh that's what she was doing white woman tears play-doh is it play-doh or i don't know maybe chat
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find me the find me the quote but uh uh so okay can you provide one example of a time i humiliated a
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woman on the show well i didn't say that i said or here this is this is what you wrote you said i don't
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agree with all the women women plural all the women humiliation that happens on the show i know it's
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intentional and for the viewers that was my example that that's what i was talking about
03:13:27.100
with the video game thing and just doing it to inside a reaction and then are you saying just
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like showing that girls are annoyed or something how's that humiliating to women you just sit there
03:13:39.420
doing it to entice entice a reaction that you know is the reaction you're gonna get
03:13:45.260
it's but it's most of the people actually the reality is when i do the world of warcraft thing
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like five people think it's funny and everyone else is like l l l cringe cringe cringe i hate it when
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he does this like in the chat i just do it because i want to do it yeah we all think it's
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that was literally uh so okay can you give me one example one give me one example there's
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there's that was my example i don't have a better example hours of me doing this podcast wait we've
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done like a hundred what 160 something shows what is this 168 brian to be fair she's only watched
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like two podcasts yeah i think you're just letting the hours a lot of hours maybe
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i don't even think i've been alive for as many hours maybe she thinks maybe she thinks that
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you're letting these women do you oh go ahead maybe maybe she thinks that you're letting these
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women embarrass themselves like but that's literally their choice because they select to come onto the
03:14:45.500
podcast i mean that was my example to that statement so maybe it's not the best one but that's it that's
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all i got for you okay all right you can't control that necessarily but i mean i'm only responsible
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for the words that come out of my mouth somebody comes on here and says some
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shit that's that's them what was that noise but i do have a question okay so whenever you're
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selecting thumbnails what criteria are you selecting your thumbnails based off of are you upset that i
03:15:13.340
didn't put you in the thumbnail no look at this she's jealous i don't give a okay put me in the
03:15:20.860
thumbnail i'm the star i'm the star of the show i'm the sky of the show what the hell i'm i'm the
03:15:29.660
a side of this you're the b side you should have put me in the goddamn thumbnail yeah instead of that
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thought daughter by the way nick is there an improvement in the focus on my side or is it still
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kind of out of focus out of focus or just a little bit okay maybe i'll try to adjust it uh anyways uh
03:15:52.860
wait hold on wait wait hold on this goes wait wait wait you have a tweet this is the tweet i didn't i
03:15:58.540
know we're not going to pull it up i looked at your twitter you have a tweet that reads did you know that
03:16:04.540
most of these only fans pages are run by men or i don't know i don't know why you brought immigrants
03:16:09.500
into the or immigrants and you're most likely not even talking to a woman with women you need a we
03:16:16.140
need women i need to help you out a little bit yeah there's one woman women whatever not even
03:16:20.780
talking you're most likely not even talking to a woman well i'm here to help because i 100 run my page
03:16:27.580
and you'll be chatting with me directly i'm 21 and fun and thriving hope to see you there that was
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a sales hook by the way yeah love that was that was your that's your sales i mean that was good
03:16:38.540
yeah and it appeals to your issue and you literally talking about your issue huh yeah she's satisfying
03:16:45.340
that i'm literally fine you're like yeah exactly what you said but you're using it you kept saying
03:16:51.340
like you keep boxing assault right right you literally admitted to it yeah you admitted to it on your
03:16:57.020
twitter right you did i say everyone did i use the word i wonder if we can find it hold on let me
03:17:02.060
see if i can find it i'm going to try to find those but that's the thing though you're using you're using
03:17:06.620
the negativity that there is out there about the only fans to your advantage to try to sell more
03:17:11.900
people to come to your page so you are being just as manipulative as though people that they're using men
03:17:19.500
i relate to that like i've definitely posted some salty things because as someone who does do all all
03:17:25.900
the work it is so hard to see like them top 0.0 making the million dollars being like can you try
03:17:32.380
to find it on my page and you know they you know they don't they have like tens of thousands of
03:17:37.020
subscribers but us we probably have like 500 what about you like like a thousand okay i mean even when
03:17:43.580
i did have a thousand before i had a boyfriend so yes i have i make half the income i used to make
03:17:48.620
it i was still possible and i did not need to hire anybody but i do get salty and i've made some of
03:17:56.060
those kind of posts myself even though it's frowned upon in the industry to like throw people you're
03:18:01.260
literally throwing your other competition under the bus just to try to get i'm not proud of it i'm not
03:18:06.300
proud of it but i've had weak moments where i'm just like but that's hypocrisy ladies that's hypocrisy
03:18:11.900
because like that would be like me being a realtor and being like is your realtor lazy i'll do what
03:18:17.020
they won't do it's essentially the same thing like she's proving that not all of them are manipulative
03:18:23.340
and lying like she really does run her own page which brian should be happy with because it's honest
03:18:29.180
well here's the thing though even if she wasn't running her own page she would still lie about it
03:18:35.740
how do you know that's what they do no but you're saying now you're saying all only from only fans
03:18:40.380
girls lie but honestly if a man is going to come on to a girl that literally has is like 3.5 million
03:18:47.500
followers on instagram and has only fans and they're going to come on there and think actually
03:18:53.580
that they're talking to that girl i mean is it is who who's liable here like is who
03:19:01.980
if who like if you were if you were we gonna blame the girl or the guy because the guy should
03:19:06.060
have enough common sense to know and the girl's just providing a service like if you were lying
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about this would you be willing to pay me a thousand dollars
03:19:16.620
wait say that again would you be what if if it's actually not true that you
03:19:21.580
that you don't have typers would you be willing to pay me a thousand dollars
03:19:24.220
if it's if it's actually not true so if you're lying about the fact that you respond to all your
03:19:30.380
of messages would you pay me a thousand dollars
03:19:35.580
if you're not lying would you pay him a thousand dollars
03:19:42.540
you do have a typer would you pay him a thousand dollars if i had a typer i would say it
03:19:47.260
would you you would not tell you would not tell your yeah not lying you would not tell your only
03:19:53.420
fans audience if you're making buku dollars you're not going to tell these these men that
03:19:58.940
you have a typer there's no way if you're if you're with a guy let's say you're chatting with
03:20:02.940
a guy right and he says i'll give you five thousand dollars right now i'll give i'll give you
03:20:09.260
five thousand dollars right now if you tell me you don't have a boyfriend and i'm the only man
03:20:13.900
you're talking to are you going to lie to him and tell him that you have a boyfriend are you
03:20:17.340
going to lie to him and tell him that you don't have a boyfriend and tell him you're the only man
03:20:20.780
that i want right now for five thousand dollars yes you are she can't yes thank you thank you
03:20:27.100
she can't even answer it because she has a typer in that instance
03:20:33.420
i had a typer then i guess they would i then i guess they would so thank you what they what would
03:20:37.740
they answer on your behalf is you lying because if if you're telling everyone you don't have a
03:20:42.700
typer right you're telling everyone on twitter and everyone out there hey guys i'm the only girl
03:20:47.180
on only fans that doesn't have a typer but even though you don't have a typer you're still lying
03:20:51.820
and manipulating if you're willing to take five thousand dollars from a man on the promise that
03:20:56.700
you don't have a boyfriend and that he's the only one you're talking to she didn't say yes though
03:21:00.940
she did say yes this is a bunch of side tangent hypothetical yeah she did say yes but it's true
03:21:07.180
i would say no because i'm not willing to i'm not i'm not i'm not gonna pay a thousand dollars
03:21:13.820
for you could really fabricate anything on the internet if you have some kind of proof or whatever
03:21:20.220
that she like who knows that could be so doctored there's really no way to prove it
03:21:26.060
interesting trust are you about to bust out like some uh some dirt on her no he ain't got nothing
03:21:38.540
i've seen him like be like oh yeah you say you're a virgin well someone sent me like anyways anyways
03:21:45.180
moving on we're gonna get to who do we get to we're gonna get to alissa here alissa you said your entire
03:21:51.020
marriage married to a narcissist your words not mine you could recount moving wait oh you guys
03:22:00.300
moved in together the second time you hung out yes i didn't know about love bombing or any of us
03:22:05.740
you said there was there's manic love bomb phase yeah that was fun okay so getting married having kids
03:22:12.140
and then the crazy narc shit that led you to file for divorce you can also talk about your dom
03:22:19.420
experience with a sissy submissive what uh so yeah why don't we talk about that the sissy
03:22:27.580
submissive thing you domed a i've domed a few people but um this particular one is funny um
03:22:36.140
so he was like yo you're kind of a bitch and i'm like yeah i know so what's that like it's a good
03:22:40.780
friend of mine and um i'm like yeah so like what's up and he's like well i just think you have like dom
03:22:45.740
energy and and i'm like what the fuck i didn't know anything about kink stuff at that well not
03:22:50.780
that level of kink stuff at the time i was i don't know i was young anyway uh long story short
03:22:56.620
he came over in like a french maid outfit with in chastity and i'm pretty sure i kept him locked for
03:23:03.180
like several months wait actually locked oh the chastity yeah yeah yeah and like you actually
03:23:09.740
shrink at some point so he's lost um they're all right for donated 200 dollars yikes to all these
03:23:18.220
things because if he's yeah yeah major yikes dude so like and like big yikes big yikes he would like
03:23:25.500
clean my house thank you mr maple with like a boat plug and i would like hit the button every so
03:23:29.340
often but to further humiliate him i invited my friend over oh my god who is this before your
03:23:33.900
husband yes i was so young oh my god i was like 19 at the time was he young exploring he's like
03:23:40.620
essentially my i want to go home um but yeah so like if he didn't if he wasn't like on his
03:23:46.780
hands and knees then i would like pour the out of the dustpan and make him clean it up again and
03:23:51.260
um and then like if you have a sissy sub like if they do ever come to climax like they have to look
03:23:59.820
it up stuff like that what yeah that's fucking disgusting i'm yeah it is 100 it is what would
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you get this it's funny that's disgusting i mean most of my subs have paid me you see what you just
03:24:12.700
said on youtube but like i don't like i'm sorry to the world please don't listen to this i'm sorry for
03:24:16.540
her i'll pray for her no no literally literally you should actually because this is all my pre-christian
03:24:24.780
behavior pre-christian behavior yeah oh my god oh yeah so just to be clear you dated a man
03:24:33.180
i didn't date him oh you i didn't date him yeah what so wait well most of the dom situations were
03:24:40.060
virtual but this particular person was my best friend and he was just into it and i was like okay
03:24:43.580
i'll try it out like why not and you did you guys ever have sex no what they're not allowed
03:24:48.540
what did you get out of it a clean house and money for free yeah foot rubs that kind of shit anything
03:24:55.900
i told him to do symphonie easy and money and so he would climax uh no if he did he had to
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fucking clean it up with his mouth no but you said he would because yeah like at his house oh
03:25:07.660
not at your place no no no no kind of sexual relationship i mean i guess you could say it's sexual
03:25:12.140
in nature but yeah no holy shit did i send the asteroid did i send the asteroid sending the
03:25:18.620
fucking asteroid on this shit i would never date someone who is that's submissive like that
03:25:29.500
she don't and you wait oh you guys both got a turn huh yeah i was gonna ask you
03:25:35.660
did he ever wear a red curly wig with bangs no no i had him over at my house once and then my wig
03:25:41.260
came up missing you know he likes to dress like a girl so i thought it was him i never saw him
03:25:45.340
wear a wig also i think he's in the chat because he's obsessed with us why are you so you should
03:25:50.780
you should dom him right now and tell him to do a champagne class food 20 donated two hundred dollars
03:25:56.620
purple hair chick is putting on an act blonde is toxic and raven chick is an enabler of her own
03:26:02.620
problems listen to the woman to your right great panel brian enjoy being here thank you appreciate
03:26:09.260
that thank you man appreciate your support i'm an enabler to mom problems your name is new so welcome
03:26:14.700
man really appreciate uh welcome to the family welcome to the team welcome to the army brittany
03:26:21.420
spears let me like reiterate i'm 27 now and i was like 19 when this happened it's even worse it's
03:26:27.820
even worse it's like no it's at that age where you're like experimenting with what you you know
03:26:32.540
what you like you made him wear a chastity belt which reduced his size he wanted it he loved it
03:26:37.820
they love it the sub is always really the one in control like they usually are the ones orchestrating
03:26:43.900
it it's just like i mean it's not something i would not date someone i don't even have one before
03:26:51.260
it's for this i just gotta shake my head all righty then try it like i'll try it were you ever did you
03:26:56.540
ever feel pressured in that situation because he was your best friend and he was coming to you with
03:27:00.540
this no i just ignore him if i wasn't feeling it and i and i do now i'm like when i was married i
03:27:06.060
ignored him totally did it change your level of respect for him no whatever he's he's in a weird
03:27:11.900
shit who cares i'm a libertarian i don't give a fuck what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else
03:27:16.140
yes now my personal principle principles may not be the same as like what i think is cool for other
03:27:22.140
people to do um but yeah i mean do what you do i had a dude that wanted me to put an egg in his
03:27:29.020
ass and that was just a red flag for me i'm like no i'm not into that shit i'm not putting anything
03:27:34.300
in your asshole like this is not something i'm into bye yeah i agree i guess there are a couple things
03:27:40.860
that i won't try once yeah yeah i'm not into it i'm not into demasculating men honestly i'm not i'm
03:27:47.660
not into it anyways uh going back to your notes here uh so you used to be a stripper how long were
03:27:53.500
you stripping for like four years in my early adult life four years okay yeah and you said you're wait
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yes the feminist take on 50 50 and how it's often low-key pick me behavior disguises empowerment what do you
03:28:07.100
mean okay so who is winning in that situation because in every relationship dynamic is different
03:28:13.740
okay so i'm not trying to generalize everybody but for the most part the woman typically does the
03:28:19.340
emotional labor she's typically going to do most of the cleaning she's typically going to do most of
03:28:23.740
the child care i can tell you this in my own marriage and okay well the maybe some of that other
03:28:29.420
stuff but the emotional labor like okay that's whatever you don't think so i feel like it's usually
03:28:34.860
women who like initiate let's go to couples therapy and stuff like that that's what i'm saying
03:28:40.540
it's not like it's not every relationship but generally my girl comes to me we need it we need
03:28:45.900
therapy i'm just let's just skip right to the chase here's the divorce papers so that's that proves my
03:28:53.420
point she's doing the emotional labor i'm not going liberal therapist so some woke liberal therapist
03:29:01.100
therapist so that she the the therapist can affirm the woman's position because most therapists tend
03:29:07.100
to be women absolutely not to be biased towards my there no i'm not okay with my husband we did
03:29:13.260
marriage therapy and yeah our therapist was a man yeah and he absolutely held me accountable on
03:29:18.460
shit that i did wrong absolutely okay most therapists probably aren't like that who hurt but
03:29:22.860
you don't go to therapy so where are you getting this information more generalizations okay exactly so the
03:29:28.060
woman's doing the emotional labor so you just literally what does therapy have to do with
03:29:31.740
who's doing the emotional labor that's just one example like if the woman is what evidence do you
03:29:35.980
have okay if she's doing the emotional if she's saying i want us to go to therapy so that we can
03:29:40.860
keep the marriage going and you're like fuck that then she's obviously putting forth that's me okay
03:29:45.260
and i think that's generally that's how it does reasonings for why anyway the point is
03:29:51.340
they they usually do most of the what's an example hold on let's talk about emotional labor
03:29:55.340
because this is such a buzzword what does that even mean okay to labor emotionally articulate
03:30:02.940
what it means i'm not okay typically women are going to stay with a man who cheats on them and
03:30:07.980
they're like oh i love you enough i'll just deal with it it's emotional labor it's emotional labor
03:30:11.740
it takes a woman through emotional pain let's both agree that cheating is wrong give me an example in a
03:30:16.700
healthy relationship where let's go to therapy that is the that is the hold on in a healthy
03:30:21.580
relationship what is an example of emotional labor go if okay let's say we have a communication
03:30:27.420
okay why are you okay if we have a communication outside of therapy outside of therapy give me an
03:30:33.100
example because i don't see how that would be an emotional labor yeah what is emotionally emotional
03:30:37.900
labor they use these words they don't even know what they mean it's putting yourself
03:30:41.580
an example of what did it define emotional labor then putting forth the emotional effort in the
03:30:46.460
relationship to keep the relationship going what does that mean though okay like like a woman
03:30:52.140
so what what's literally like if the okay cool let's say there's no cheating just like bye let's say
03:30:56.220
there's no cheating okay so you can't okay you can't rationally discredit every example and then be
03:31:00.860
like oh well you're not giving me an example give me an example we just gave you practicing okay you
03:31:05.820
said going to therapy and cheating what else typically women are going to be the better communicators
03:31:11.020
uh typically the women are going to want to sit down and talk an issue out and the men are not
03:31:15.020
although that's not always the case like women can have you know avoidant attachment styles too but
03:31:22.540
are we going to like get to the whole point or just we just want to hold on this for the next
03:31:25.580
hour let's give me an example of emotional labor multiple no you didn't okay let's say we're fighting
03:31:32.060
hey hey brian i don't like that like when i try to talk to you you kind of like discredit everything
03:31:36.380
that i say if it if it doesn't align with your views you just won't hear me
03:31:40.220
how is that emotion we're having a conversation we're engaged we're role-playing okay i'm telling
03:31:47.260
you you're my man hey i feel like when i talk to you if it's not what you want to hear you disregard
03:31:52.700
what i'm saying can you recognize that you do that what do you hold on i don't want i'm not really
03:32:00.860
interested in okay so this is a perfect example of me trying to do we're not in a relationship
03:32:05.660
i'm not here to kiss your ass okay but it's so why don't you give me an example of emotional labor
03:32:12.140
without us having to role play it okay but that is something that happens in relationships the
03:32:16.700
woman will want to sit down and talk about the issues and what is okay you and what you think
03:32:21.900
it's not clear to me that that's an emotional labor i would agree and say that's the wrong term for
03:32:27.740
it okay so then what would you call it i wouldn't call it emotional labor i would call it talking
03:32:31.820
things out communication to me like i'm five emotional labor is literally like i'm five it's
03:32:37.740
practicing empathy and putting yourself in someone else's shoes without having to
03:32:43.820
like putting i don't even know what that means you're putting yourself putting yourself in someone
03:32:47.660
else's shoes if you come practicing and tell me you don't like something emotional labor is and i sit
03:32:51.820
there and i reflect about it even though i may not agree why would that be emotional
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that would just be you putting yourself in somebody else's shoes considering their perspective
03:33:00.540
i don't think empathy is an emotion no that's not what i said go ahead make your point okay make
03:33:05.660
your point that is wild you don't think empathy is an emotion i literally didn't say that it is
03:33:16.300
the wife comes to the husband and says they need therapy the husband needs to be emotionally stable
03:33:21.660
enough to say shut the fuck up and make me a sandwich okay so that's exactly what i'm talking
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about so men will do shit like that listen men will do shit like that and women will still be like
03:33:29.660
i pay 50 of the bills i don't need no man okay bitch you're the real pick me so what you're saying
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is they don't have to provide for you they don't have to fucking do any emotional labor they don't
03:33:39.340
have to hold on what does that mean okay what does emotional labor mean i'm not gonna spend the
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next 30 minutes i gave you multiple give me okay you you went to the extreme cheating no no going
03:33:50.780
to therapy okay no you think it's an extreme when i'm if your partner is trying to engage you in a
03:33:56.620
conversation going to and you don't even have the empathy to like listen to them cut it out
03:34:01.980
stop being a fucking idiot go ahead if even it's not an extreme example to say like hey if i'm
03:34:08.300
trying to talk to my partner about something that bothers me and they just won't have the empathy
03:34:12.300
to even listen to the problem much less reflect or acknowledge it that's me emotionally investing
03:34:19.820
and the man being like fuck you and your emotions because they're afraid to express i'm still waiting
03:34:25.340
for an explanation of what emotional labor is we just gave you literally five no okay then you have
03:34:31.100
then you can like google it okay then how is you're being avoidant i'm not being avoidant i would
03:34:36.060
actually i bet he's my question is how how is it keep psychoanaly how is it not emotional
03:34:42.140
labor if you're um giving advice to your partner and trying to put them in a vulnerable you're
03:34:50.060
expressing your emotions an advanced and healthier mindset how is that not emotional labor okay give
03:34:57.340
me an example i can see that i can see that it's sunk into your head already okay yes it has someone
03:35:04.220
yeah you are the guy i was talking to that i was in a three-day relationship with but we had been
03:35:08.700
talking for three years i think it's cute because he would see that he has already digested it but
03:35:13.340
this is for views he would routinely okay what evidence do you actually have this for views you
03:35:18.540
literally you literally have failed to articulate okay i'm looking at you and i can tell that you know
03:35:23.420
what i'm saying okay cool you're a mind reader so in a relationship where there's not cheating and
03:35:29.660
therapy isn't necessary would you agree that there is some degrees of quote unquote emotional labor
03:35:35.980
happening in otherwise happy relationships yeah what's an example
03:35:41.420
in a okay no in a happy relationship what would be an example of an emotional happy relationship
03:35:47.260
overall and still have issues okay so let's exclude cheating let's exclude the need a relationship so
03:35:54.140
bad right that it requires therapy okay yeah yeah okay even small what is an example of emotional
03:35:59.980
labor in an otherwise happy relationship okay happy relationships can have small issues like
03:36:04.540
communication issues right sure okay sure so if i'm coming to you trying to say hey we have
03:36:09.820
communication issues i think we need to work it out because i love you and i want to stay with you
03:36:13.500
but in order to do that this is something that definitely needs to be fixed you have to be
03:36:18.300
vulnerable oh you're dangling the breakup no just like you did with your husband didn't or didn't
03:36:23.900
you say yes i didn't you admit that one of your issues is that you would threaten the breakup yeah
03:36:28.860
because in my in my book once you threaten the breakup it's goodbye i don't play that
03:36:34.220
shit we can have we can have a conversation about issues but when you start leveraging a breakup
03:36:40.460
100 i'll call your bluff it was nice to meet you goodbye i don't play this and let's break up get
03:36:45.980
back together bullshit i think if you want to break up it's over yeah goodbye oh my god that
03:36:51.580
looks like a i said that was like more of a wave goodbye
03:36:53.980
that was not it's not a salute that was not a roman salute okay no i actually agree like
03:37:02.300
as someone who's no longer 22 and has done self-reflection and stuff i 100 agree with you
03:37:06.380
but that's not what i'm saying here what i'm saying here is you don't have to threaten to leave
03:37:10.700
but everybody knows like if a relationship gets too toxic it's just healthy to not be together
03:37:15.500
so you try to discuss issues so that you can fix them and keep the relationship going and that's just
03:37:20.060
like a general thing that everyone does are you just so you're describing emotional labor as like
03:37:24.060
the willingness to discuss those things it's one example it's just any kind like but you said women
03:37:30.300
do most of the emotional labor in a relationship so i i'm sort of failing to understand i think i think
03:37:37.660
what she's trying to say is that women are more likely to be vulnerable and that is equating to
03:37:42.940
emotional therapy or emotional uh labor yeah but i wouldn't i think emotional labor is a stupid word
03:37:48.620
for them okay well we can argue semantics but the general point and i also think that women tend to
03:37:54.060
like emotionally invest more in general maybe sooner than men but that's because we're hormonal issue
03:38:01.020
and the whole point that i'm making like the whole point that i'm making is women will literally brag
03:38:06.460
they'll be like i'll i pay 50 of the bills and i do the cooking and i do the cleaning and and and
03:38:12.540
then they'll say dumb shit like if a guy cheats on you well you could have just told me i would
03:38:15.740
have fucked her with you you know that type of shit that is the real pick me energy so when i got
03:38:20.460
married and i decided to become a mom i had so many feminine literally i'm not even fucking playing
03:38:26.540
i had so many feminists put me down and like oh my god years of feminism what we fought for wasted
03:38:32.540
and it's like you're really the pick me i'm not the pick me because i'm getting married and having
03:38:39.820
children which by the way to me is the most meaningful thing that you could do is create
03:38:46.060
another human and like build them up to be they're the future they're literally the fucking future
03:38:52.140
generations and you have a role in shaping that and you're gonna tell me that fucking paying 50 of
03:38:57.980
the bills for your boyfriend who's gonna fucking cheat on you anyway and you're gonna do all the
03:39:01.420
shit that i'm doing that makes me the pick me wait so hold on is your just to finally arrive
03:39:07.100
at the point here you're against 50 50 relationships is that no no if it's truly 50 50 i think that's
03:39:12.860
great like if the if both partners are equally cleaning cooking all of the things yeah that's
03:39:17.660
great but that's just not what i typically see anecdotally okay let me ask you a question
03:39:21.580
let's say the guy's working 60 hours a week and the woman's working 30 and there's an unequal
03:39:27.500
distribution of all the household shit that you're talking about do you not view that as 50 50 yeah
03:39:35.020
wait so yeah if the man is if the man is working harder hours and by the way you said something
03:39:39.660
earlier about blue collar men working nine to fives who do y'all know blue collar men that work nine to
03:39:44.620
fives because i don't know any blue collar men they work like 100 hour weeks so in those kind of
03:39:50.140
scenarios that yeah it obviously makes sense that the that whoever whichever partner is not working as much
03:39:55.820
should do more of the opposite labor yes i don't discredit that at all you also talked about also
03:40:00.860
how it's more empowering to be a housewife and how being that doesn't automate automatically make
03:40:05.500
you the submissive one yeah so i see um a huge debate topic on like tick tock and other social
03:40:12.540
media platforms where women are like well if i'm gonna be submissive then you need to pay all the bills
03:40:18.380
and i guess it just depends on what you mean by submissive but like a man can be paying all the bills
03:40:24.060
and that doesn't mean that you have to submit to him each relationship dynamic is going to be
03:40:27.980
different so it was just weird to me as someone who like always wore the pants in my relationships
03:40:34.380
to have women like oh you're you just let a man run you or if you have like any red pill ideas women
03:40:39.580
will be like oh well you just think that because the misogyny is coming from inside the house which is
03:40:44.700
actually misogynistic to say because you're assuming that i can't form my own opinions and that a man must
03:40:49.180
have made me think this way although i i have to i'll have to say this as far as women who are
03:40:54.940
homemakers who are stay-at-home moms that's a full-time job it is taking care of the kids and
03:40:59.340
whatnot but if you don't have children and you expect a man to take care of you to me that's just lazy
03:41:05.820
that's just lazy i mean that's that's i don't fully dispute that but there are some dynamics where
03:41:11.740
you know if that works for both people then whatever because because she could be helping him like
03:41:16.860
in those situations where he's working super hard he doesn't want to have to come home and do laundry
03:41:20.700
he doesn't want to have to come home and do dinner right so she's helping him in that scenario what
03:41:24.780
if she's objecting and then saying oh i don't have to do oh yeah that's wrong yeah you're a lazy
03:41:29.180
well then you're a lazy bitch yeah 100 agree get a job then bitch i agree yeah when i was a housewife
03:41:36.060
my house was spotless i cooked all the time you can look at my facebook at the meals album
03:41:40.140
i cook good as fuck my children are both highly advanced um yeah i was a really good housewife
03:41:47.500
but other women would put me down for it i'm like bitch you're the pick me it's he's paying my bills
03:41:53.740
and i don't have to work like yes what i'm doing is work but like i would definitely not want to be
03:41:58.620
doing this and working i think women should pay a hundred percent of everything to be honest yeah i'll do
03:42:05.500
it i think we need a reversal of the gender roles to be honest in what industry i mean like
03:42:13.740
if you're baited in what industry what women what what industry what industry are women working in
03:42:19.180
that they're going to make more than the men maybe well here's an example asian women out earn white men
03:42:29.500
so okay then go for asian women well wouldn't you like can we ask you questions sure go ahead
03:42:40.460
when how long has it been since you dated somebody i'm a virgin right helpful there's
03:42:46.380
just a hint in this moment i don't talk about my uh relationship status he's seeing an asian girl
03:42:52.540
they don't have social media they have instagram i'll tell you this i've never dated a content
03:43:00.780
creator or a girl who does only fans i want to say content like even just like a youtuber or twitch
03:43:06.380
streamer no sex work never even dated a content creator i don't really consider that job honestly
03:43:13.180
how old are you i saw a episode where you said you were older than michael knolls i'm 34. okay yeah i mean
03:43:20.540
so it's like oh what is is the is the dating rage that you date like uh like 19 to 22 is that a fair
03:43:30.380
assessment i'll date anyone from uh 19 to 40 i suppose i've dated so you date an older girl i've
03:43:39.740
dated yeah i've dated women older than me i've dated women younger than me that's where it's at is there
03:43:43.580
any aversion for men to date a younger woman is there any reason why a man would not want to date a
03:43:49.340
young well once we get andrew wilson on the call we're we're gonna get him here in just a sec uh
03:43:55.100
we will talk about age gap relationships because i believe that's in your notes so we'll get into that
03:43:59.980
but yeah i don't really talk about it one because one precisely because i don't date another content
03:44:05.980
creator so if i'm dating like a normie chick i frankly don't want people harassing my girlfriend
03:44:11.180
uh and then um it's just uh yeah there's just safety security concerns there have you ever found
03:44:22.140
someone on the podcast that you were willing to date have i ever found somebody on the podcast
03:44:27.980
that i was willing to date date not sleep with date uh sure i guess yeah i'm not gonna give you
03:44:37.980
specifics i'm not asking for specifics i typically i don't i try not to make it a habit though for the
03:44:44.620
most part don't shit where you eat for the most part you know what's your body count zero i'm a virgin
03:44:50.540
i don't think we're gonna get an honest answer about that one he's born again but he doesn't
03:44:56.780
support wait are you a christian did i say that i'm asking he's a modern man i'm a i don't know
03:45:02.540
what i'm a modern man i think that i'm trying to fix my question nick are you able to get andrew going
03:45:09.180
here uh guys we're gonna have andrew wilson join the call nice join the stream here we got a lot of
03:45:15.740
notes to get through so i think the age gap notes were mine because i i have a couple people
03:45:21.820
mentioned uh stuff i think so is yours younger or older yeah older i just tried to date a 26 year
03:45:28.700
old i'm 27 absolutely the fuck not never again jesus it felt like having three kids i love him
03:45:33.180
to death as a friend like is this the guy that you no no no okay again that was all when i was like
03:45:40.380
19 so i'm a christian now i want a monogamous like serious committed relationship
03:45:45.660
i don't do random hookups or any kind of crazy maddie can you read this single slash divorced
03:45:51.100
mom i feel not hopeful at times but find a man who leads and cares if they don't lead they aren't
03:45:57.100
men of is degenerative do any of you of models have children i bet you don't no and i love being a
03:46:04.700
degenerate i would so okay let me in regards to that um i used to have an issue like letting men lead
03:46:14.380
but i think if a man can lead properly and think about you with his decisions and lead with integrity
03:46:19.900
like biblical men should then i'm absolutely willing to let a man lead
03:46:25.900
yeah you're gonna you're gonna let and i don't do only fans how nice of you to let him lead it is nice
03:46:31.500
yeah it's very you have a choice andrew would you like to introduce yourself to everyone
03:46:37.180
yeah my name is andrew wilson i'm the host of the crucible it's the fastest growing debate channel in
03:46:41.180
my knowledge anywhere on the internet political satirist um political analyst and i'm a blood
03:46:46.940
sport debater um i often come on whatever podcast to talk to various people oftentimes challenging
03:46:53.260
worldviews so i appreciate uh brian having me on i was scheduled for tonight i'm here a little
03:46:58.300
bit late because i had some family business to attend to leading women inside what's up andrew
03:47:08.460
but yeah i think like the big misconception with like people or women hating on other women
03:47:15.420
for being housewives it's like they think that because you're a housewife that you can't do anything
03:47:21.180
and that you're stuck and that you can't leave the house in that they belittle you so much and i feel
03:47:27.180
like i'm doing the most important work by creating the next generation and and i wanted to be a
03:47:32.620
teacher for the same reason like you're helping mold the minds of the next generation and you really
03:47:37.660
can't do anything more powerful than that yeah i agree you could by not having them i mean hard
03:47:45.180
disagree that's like idiocracy have you ever seen that movie yes okay hard all the smart people stop
03:47:51.340
having children and all the dumb people have more and more children i mean that's that's what's happening
03:47:56.140
right the united states of america for the past 50 years i mean that is true statistically the higher
03:48:00.940
educated are having children later in life or less so at all but um i'm pretty educated i consider
03:48:07.260
myself a major nerd i named my kid sagan after carl sagan who is a physicist and i spend a lot of my
03:48:13.180
free time literally just reading things about psychology and statistics and philosophy and when they roast
03:48:18.860
my dating profile later you'll see that you know that intellect is the most important thing to me
03:48:23.980
so yeah i mean i and i think it's my duty to have more children and you don't think we're
03:48:31.500
overpopulated you don't think the world's overpopulated sure i do and there's a debate
03:48:36.220
on that like you know like elon musk thinks why bring more children into the world and then all the
03:48:40.620
children that aren't being taken care of right now what about all those there's a lot of people
03:48:44.220
who are choosing not to have children anymore to the point that it makes economists worried so
03:48:49.100
more population means more money we need to nick can you pull up the view count really quick guys
03:48:55.180
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03:49:23.820
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uh andrew introduced himself yes all right my caucasian welcome andrew welcome welcome so
03:50:29.820
we're just getting through some of the pre-show notes for some of the guests we have uh let's see
03:50:36.780
still here on alissa you said that you disagree on the only fan stuff but we already talked about the
03:50:45.020
only fan stuff so but you said most men don't care about only fans and it doesn't hinder a woman from
03:50:50.300
finding a partner hearing some of the arguments i made did you do you have a change of opinion or i mean
03:50:55.740
i still have the same opinion just because like i said earlier like we're all literally the combination
03:51:01.820
of billions of dependent variables that are based on our own unique nature and nurture we can't like
03:51:08.300
broadly say anything but i agree with a lot of the things that you said so if i say if i can admit
03:51:15.180
and this is actually my my belief that there is some degree of cope when it comes to oh these only fans
03:51:21.180
women they're just going to be forever alone they're going to be lonely they're going to have cats
03:51:25.660
they're never going to find a man if i can admit that that's are you able to admit that the by
03:51:31.660
virtue of woman having an only fans or being a sex worker that she's going to close the door on a lot
03:51:37.900
of men sure yeah a lot of men are not going to be okay with it and i would even say like and then
03:51:43.740
again i'm a libertarian so i don't give a fuck what other adults do as long as it doesn't harm
03:51:47.340
anyone but i wouldn't want to be with a man who was supportive of it who was you wouldn't want
03:51:51.980
to be a man who's supportive of only fans yeah okay well we already had the conversation so we
03:51:56.300
won't linger too long on the uh you're a libertarian i am if i was going to categorize it yes like i have
03:52:02.860
views from both sides but for the most like for myself i probably have more like based views but
03:52:08.460
i just feel like other people should as long as it doesn't hurt anybody do what the fuck you want
03:52:12.620
so you're a harm reductionist libertarian yes okay gotcha so i i mean i do have to ask then um
03:52:22.140
i'm going to try to frame this correctly for the tos but if a brother were to have carnal
03:52:27.340
relations with their sister what would your objection be to that as a libertarian i feel
03:52:32.300
like it is a harm because when it comes to reproductive issues they can't reproduce let's say
03:52:36.860
i mean it's against the law i think they should that's not so what so are we are we having a
03:52:43.420
philosophical thing philosophically i don't give a fuck that doesn't have anything to do with me
03:52:47.500
but within the parameters of our current society and law then obviously they shouldn't do that and
03:52:53.500
i don't fucking condone it but i mean whatever why not why not condone it if there's no harm
03:52:59.260
i'm not gonna fuck my brother yeah yeah i get it but i'm saying for me you're a harm reductionist
03:53:04.220
right yeah so if there's no actual harm to reduce you can't really say anything about it
03:53:08.700
how can you how can you how can you apply that broadly though because you can't say that every
03:53:12.460
brother and sister right now because people get arrested for doing it because it's considered
03:53:17.020
immoral right but you said in the instance that they can't reproduce so i can't you can't like broadly
03:53:22.300
apply a standard because most of them would be able to reproduce well you can what if they were same
03:53:27.900
sex i mean i i don't give a fuck if a sister won't right you don't care right so you're
03:53:34.060
your harm reduction is that you just don't care about what other things like uh like incest you
03:53:39.020
don't care about probably things like uh necrophilia you probably don't care about any of those things
03:53:43.420
because there's no provable harm you could absolutely say that necrophilia causes harm
03:53:47.660
oh yeah tell me how it causes harm to the family members of the body what if they have no family
03:53:53.020
members or will their body to do it it causes harm the body can't consent to it so it's no you can
03:54:00.700
consent to it before you die it causes harm because of the hey if you listen if you write
03:54:08.620
if you write up a will and you say i don't care if somebody sleeps with my course corpse then like
03:54:12.700
whatever whatever then you don't care right don't care yeah that's why libertarianism is stupid leads
03:54:18.380
to all sorts of immoral conclusions for the most it's hard to like really quantify my political
03:54:23.500
views but for the most part i'm in favor of the government being less involved in whatever extent
03:54:28.540
as possible obviously it needs to be involved for certain things but like i don't give a
03:54:34.460
fuck if gay people yeah you don't care yeah you don't care you don't care i know you don't care
03:54:37.660
about incest you don't care about necrophilia you don't care about anything your harm reductionist
03:54:40.940
values are as immoral and degenerate as you can possibly imagine that's why we're not a libertarian
03:54:47.260
nation we're not a libertarian nation because all roads lead to degeneracy
03:54:50.780
can you can you argue though that uh necrophilia is because stacy for senate donated two hundred
03:55:01.340
dollars in nevado abortion has been legally protected up until 24 months can we admit that
03:55:07.820
at least by 24 weeks you've had enough time to decide to have an abortion or not what say you ladies
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yes absolutely thank you stacy appreciate it what say you ladies i think it's crazy to do it that
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late 24 no 24 months he's 12 24 weeks i don't say 24 well it says 24 months so wait it literally
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says maddie can you read this i said women now days refuse to accept responsibility for their actions
03:55:33.500
my wife let me and our two toddlers so that she can quote-unquote have fun modern
03:55:38.380
feminism has ruined the best attributes of a good woman i agree uh newly single dad thank you for the
03:55:43.020
chat man sorry to hear about the breakup of your uh family there uh fortunate uh she just uh she
03:55:50.380
wanted to have fun i wanted to have fun perfect justification and pretext for breaking up a marriage
03:55:58.940
with two toddlers just a wonderful reason uh sorry to hear that man though um and uh going back to
03:56:06.300
your notes here so you also disagree on you don't think fat women are inherently less valuable because
03:56:16.540
everyone's got a type and some people's type is fat bitches 100 so my cousin will only date fat girls
03:56:23.660
he that's his type it's what he likes he he has curved beautiful skinny women so like you know it could be
03:56:29.580
your standard and it would be my standard it's most men's standard sure but there's definitely a good
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portion of them that well yeah there's enough out there i suppose if you have a big enough population
03:56:41.660
but uh you you're saying when it comes to this value conversation uh so i don't think we're talking
03:56:50.540
about like their value as a human being we're talking about their value in the dating and sexual
03:56:56.300
marketplace is that what is that what you're talking about yeah there are some guys that place
03:56:59.740
value on that that is what they are sexually attracted to specifically but but so if we're
03:57:04.380
talking about less valuable more valuable let's say there's a greater proportion of men who value women
03:57:11.020
who are fit sure or who are thin and while there are some men who will value an obese woman that tends to
03:57:19.340
be less than men who value thin fit women so couldn't you just make the argument then that
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they are less valuable in the dating marketplace i guess if we're doing statistics yes like
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well but then it should be clarified in that way like to most men they're going to be less valuable
03:57:39.340
but i'm you know there's always going to be i don't think anybody ever really makes the argument that
03:57:43.660
no i don't understand aren't you a laissez-faire uh libertarian that that would be your assessment
03:57:53.100
are you a laissez-faire libertarian give me a specific example and what you believe in the
03:57:59.020
economic model of laissez-faire economics so like anarcho-capitalism something like this no well
03:58:05.660
what sort of economic model do you ascribe to i support capitalism okay so capitalism so just take
03:58:11.820
basic capitalism supply and demand right yes do you think that there's more men or less men demand
03:58:16.860
demanding fat women i mean like we would have to take a poll but my assumption is that there would
03:58:22.220
be less women into it obviously okay so i'm just saying we can't we can't make broad away if there's
03:58:27.100
less demand for something in inside of your economic theory then it's less valuable right yeah in in
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that okay so then they're less valuable glad we got that cleared up
03:58:36.380
i mean fair when you but that's not how it was like laid out when i was listening to some of them
03:58:43.180
it seemed like a fat woman is not valuable but if you can say she's less valuable in the dating
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market yeah i think that's fair that's i mean if we're having a conversation about dating that is the
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context and i me and andrew tend to we tend to make sort of these disclaimers when we're talking about
03:59:04.060
value we're not talking about your value as a human being as a person but we're we are typically
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specific specifically talking about in the dating marketplace yeah but even within that there's still
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going to be some guys but that's the only point that i was making i don't think we disagree there
03:59:19.900
andrew i'm sure you'd agree that we don't disagree that there will be men who find obese women
03:59:24.140
attractive yeah right we're just talking about some basic supply and demand so just like any
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marketplace the dating marketplace would be a marketplace right just it's no different than an
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electronics marketplace a tobacco marketplace whatever it is the higher the demand for
03:59:39.260
something right yeah usually it's more valuable because more people demand it so this would be
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the same thing when you're talking about types of women this type of thing yeah you would agree to
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that right yeah yeah okay okay okay well i'm not i'm not ruling listen i'm not ruled by cognitive
03:59:56.380
dissonance i'm okay with like my view changing so if you can offer me something that deepens my
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perspective i'm absolutely like i'm not like no i'm just gonna argue this for the sake of it do you
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object to value calls and value judgments when it comes to dating what do you mean like in well
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i mean do you object to a guy who would not want to date a woman who's overweight for example
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no i think you can have whatever standard you want and i actually agree with the standard about like
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men or women your friend's fucking dying in the bathroom not what i'm kidding she's like dying
04:00:31.420
that right good no i think it's like one thing that i see argued on here a lot is that
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they like you guys will say it's fair for a guy not to want a woman that has a high body count
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and i haven't really seen any good argument against that and i actually really help you with that
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no i agree that it's fine to not want to be with someone who has a high body count for multiple
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reasons wait but wait let's go back to supply and demand let's go back to supply and demand do you
04:00:57.420
think that men would prefer just on average to have a woman with a low body count or a high body count
04:01:05.580
i don't think that men care as much as no so let's say for a second that we took you and made a perfect
04:01:13.100
clone of you like let's say i don't know you had a twin sister or something like this but
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however it was that your thought waves and brain patterns work were mapped completely on to another
04:01:22.620
woman which is an exact doppelganger of you okay and a man could choose he fell in love with you
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and the clone of you had slept with no people and you had slept with a hundred people and it's the
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same person which one do you think the man would choose i think a large portion would want the girl
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who knows what the fuck she's doing that part hold on you erroneous erroneous so do you think that
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they would prefer the promiscuous you yes this is a topic that's actually debated what you should
04:01:49.660
do is just look at the camera then and say that you're gonna fuck a ton of dudes because you think
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it's gonna raise your value to men well i don't give a fuck what anybody views my value as i don't
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have a high body count and i don't want to yeah but why would it matter if you did by sleeping with
04:02:04.620
a bunch of people aimlessly wait but wouldn't people love you more if you did some some guys do
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prefer women who know what they're doing they don't want to have to train somebody some men
04:02:14.060
some men are possessive and like want someone to themselves and i think that's also fair and one
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argument that women have against that is like oh men only don't want a girl with a high body count
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because they're insecure even if that is the case like who cares like they're allowed well i don't
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know it seems it seems to me that the value of virgins since there's so few of them in society has
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skyrocketed in the dating marketplace and that men are competing over them a lot more than they're
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competing over women who are highly promiscuous this has this been studied is this like actually
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yes if a guy's a virgin to me on the preferences on the preferences of body count that's disgusting
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can i can yeah we can but just let us finish our argument we're almost we're almost done so uh yeah
04:02:59.660
there has been studied for preferences for higher low body count and men tend to prefer lower body
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count yeah okay that's true and they do tend to compete a lot more over over women who are virgins
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they tend to compete a lot more for them so they it seems that based on supply and demand there's a
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lot fewer virgins so the supply of them is down the demand for them is up okay right so what they
04:03:22.540
can de-virgin them no what percentage virgin so i can take her virgin what percentage of women that
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are conventionally attractive are going to remain virgins up until the point of marriage very few
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very few right so then that brings in the predicament of reality versus idealism which is ideally
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very attractive their round meatball donated two hundred dollars dating marketplace is obviously
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different than a market for goods if you want a more complete partner some level of exploration is
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necessary which is the in is bad but so is promiscuity virgin is bad totally agree i don't think
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disagree i don't think virgin every every single marketplace she she's a psychologist she should know
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this right every single marketplace in economics also runs off of psychology it also runs off of
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consumer trust it runs off of how people feel about the product successful marketing campaigns tug at
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heartstrings has nothing to do with the product at all so no all what are these studies and like how
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recently were they done what's that how recent are these studies i i have them nick can you get those
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pulled up please i these there's like multiple studies both of them please what's the background
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on the studies were they just random men that they picked up off the street i mean to be fair we could
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like take apart any study uh no many of these have had a meta-analysis there have been a meta-analysis
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done on these studies i mean did men did they do it for women too like did they ask women what they
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thought about men that were virgins okay but this is not what we're talking about well no yes actually we
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do have some studies on that too it seems to be less important to women than it did hold on nick a
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little less zoomed in please okay scroll down just a bit so there was a study in 2023 re-examining
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the link hold on re-examining the link between premarital sex and divorce scroll down uh there
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was one in this other one uh sowing wild oats valuable experience a field full of weeds personal
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relationships in some i don't know uh there's another one from 2018 fewer sex partners means a
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happier marriage there's 2018 from wolfing wolfinger promiscuous america smart secular and somewhat less
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happy yeah uh but there's there's 1974 premarital sexual behavior but that's not the topic the topic is
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do men where are the studies that specifically say that men prefer
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women with less body counts as opposed to the next tab nick the next the next one and i don't
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discredit that you could be right i'm i just haven't seen there's a whole bunch of uh uh because
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those are not good examples of that promiscuity and infidelity i could just say i'm a virgin
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okay so so listen i can agree with all of this by the way i am highly aware of the neuroscience behind
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why having a bunch of sex partners is not good for you it essentially down regulates your
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fucking oxytocin receptors and for men dopamine well both women and men but more so with men
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the vasopressin and the dopamine so it's not good if you want someone who can actually
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emotionally connect you're going to find that person less likely because what happens about
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pair bonding you create yeah you create like a neural imprint and then why earlier did you just
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say that most men would prefer women with no no i'm not saying most i'm just saying i don't know that
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it's the case that men care like i've heard and i've seen on online debates a lot of men say they
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would prefer to be with someone who knows what they're doing who has a little more experience i
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think those men are probably i personally i personally think it's having a lot of a high
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body count is not ideal like for me because it's the same why not issue in men because i want someone
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with properly functioning dopamine receptors who's not going to be more prone to risky behavior
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and that can actually pair bonds and be monogamous because that's what i would want out of a
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partner also so why would you make the assumption promiscuity can also the other direction there's
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promiscuity can also reflect like mental health issues not to stigmatize them but like you have
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higher promiscuity mental health issues that's a that's another justification for a man not wanting
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to date somebody right i'm not saying that those reasonings don't exist because i agree you're trying
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to justify well she has a high body count because of mental health mental illness i think it's fair for
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someone not to want to be with someone with a high body count because it could reflect mental
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health issues because promiscuity high promiscuity is associated with things like bpd and we have
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millions of years of evolutionary biology coded into our dna geared towards self-preservation so it's
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fair to not want to be with someone who has a high body count you know sex isn't this like you're more
04:07:55.980
that's interesting that you bring up evolution you're how would you how would you pre uh paternity
04:08:02.380
tests make a determination on if a child was yours from a man's perspective how would you do that how
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would what pre paternity tests which are recent from an evolutionary standpoint how would you as a
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man be able to make a determination that a child woman had was yours looks what do you what do you
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oh okay so i mean i guess how would you determine that you would just look at them and see if they
04:08:26.620
look like you i suppose well if they were more chaste right they had less promiscuity then this is a
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woman who you could count on likely yeah to actually be bearing your child right right so we listen so
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wouldn't that be wired in as a preference then evolutionarily it could be but i think the dating
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market is vastly different because of second wave feminism leading to hook up culture just to be
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clear so when was hold on when was second wave feminism i don't know the dates when what within the
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past century yes do you think that do you think that the evolutionary basis that andrew's arguing
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about has been undone in the course of less than 100 years definitely to some extent yes absolutely
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you don't that's not how okay make a poll then that's not how evolution make a poll let's ask the
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no listen i agree with you guys on this i'm just saying you can't say that all women all men
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or even the majority of men prefer yes we're not we're not putting anything in a model you are saying
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the majority yes i would say the majority of men yeah for and you could be right but how like
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where are you drawing this conclusion let me ask you a question if you look up into the sky
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and i say that the sky is blue do i need a study to prove that the sky is blue in the false
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equivalence is that shit it's god so you want to study that that indicates that men have been
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surveyed how about this if you're gonna if i ask my chat well the burden of proof is on you so if
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you're making these points then yes you should show a study not in regards to divorce or any other
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shit that you just picked up pulled up but if you're gonna say men prefer women who don't know
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what the fuck they're doing i'm just saying like you can look online and see men talk about this
04:10:11.660
so let's let's dive into this real quick then let's find out and we'll test your logic and see
04:10:17.260
if that's true you're requesting empirical data is the burden of evidence for whether or not uh this
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can be demonstrated to you which i think is fair but what if we could logically demonstrate it for you
04:10:28.940
that's also another way in which a thing can be demonstrated to a person that does not require
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empiricism correct it depends on the topic you can't logic you i don't think you can apply that to any
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argument stance well if you're going to speak on behalf of other men it needs to be studied
04:10:44.060
empiricism itself is just a a foundational uh ethos of i believe x so like you would have to justify
04:10:51.740
why we should even use empiricism but that aside okay yeah yeah i mean hang on you would but i'm just
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going to grant that maybe we could as long as you'll grant that i could also logically demonstrate
04:11:02.940
something to you as well because you'd have to logically demonstrate why we should use empirical data
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uh i'm just going to grant that we should but if i can logically demonstrate for you for instance
04:11:12.700
that most of the world is religious most of the world is religious not some and most of the religions
04:11:19.340
of the world have some kind of virtue ethic when it comes to sex is that correct yes absolutely well
04:11:24.700
then there must be some preference for promiscuity being bad from the position of both men and women
04:11:31.980
i mean you could also argue that someone who is promiscuous is probably more fertile like they're
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i mean you could really dive into that and on all that does not contend with my argument that i just
04:11:41.100
gave you okay but most of the world is religious right but most religions stop let me let me make the
04:11:47.100
argument again and then steel man the argument before you respond to it okay the argument is if most of
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the world is religious most religions have a sexual ethic which is against promiscuity which they do
04:11:57.740
uh then it seems that people must have some preference against sexual promiscuity that would
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be a sound conclusion can you steel man the argument first and then give me an argument counter to it
04:12:11.260
i think what you're saying is valid but i think that not everyone who's religious upholds religious
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values by far by far there are outliers that's a non-sequitur what's the argument the argument is that
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until there's actual data saying what men prefer then all of this is just hypothetical bullshit
04:12:29.580
it can't be hypothetical we have empirical data on religion when was religion apparently that most
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of the world is religious right when was religion when was religion formed you have to take into
04:12:38.460
context society at the time that it was formed why do we have to do that when we're talking about
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anymore we don't live in that anymore that's no no that's literally that's a genetic fallacy what are you
04:12:50.700
talking about that's a fallacious form of argumentation people why would we have to go to
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when a religion was formed to make a determination that right this second most of society is religious
04:13:01.260
in most societies of the world have some kind of religion they adhere to with sexual ethics which
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are against promiscuity therefore there must be some preference against promiscuity unless you
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can give me a counter argument to that i'm not saying that there's not a preference i'm saying and
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most of the people that would be in favor of women who are more experienced are not going to be
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religious to begin with so they're adding all these variables it's not a counter kind of cucks to be
04:13:26.700
honest i mean i don't that's not a counter argument like what's the counter argument to it some people
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might not be religious i i know i'm granting that that right but you're trying to add in a bunch of
04:13:36.380
variables that may not be applicable in today's society i don't know very many people who have said
04:13:41.900
things along the lines of i prefer a woman who's more experienced that are religious most of the
04:13:46.780
people in the world do not live in western societies most do not okay so are we having a
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like world yeah so we're talking about we're talking about muslims and we're talking about jews and
04:13:57.260
we're talking about christians and we're talking about all sorts of different religions which
04:14:01.020
exist there's almost in all of them an ethic against sexual promiscuity almost all if we're
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talking about the whole world yeah that's absolutely fair against against promiscuity right yeah if
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we're if we're talking worldwide yeah that's fair yeah yeah so you well i mean you don't think that
04:14:16.540
human beings evolved you don't think that men the ontological nature of what is a man in a muslim
04:14:22.540
nation is different than the ontological nature of a man here right i mean they're the same they're
04:14:26.780
both men i think so why would they have a preference there there's okay distinct from a preference here
04:14:31.900
for all of us who are religious seem to have this preference and most people are religious
04:14:36.380
there's multiple factors that go into a person's decision making and religion is not the only thing
04:14:42.540
there are social aspects generational aspects and the are you arguing that what things are like in
04:14:48.940
egypt right now are similar to america are you saying the culture there's going to be a cultural of
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course there's going to be cultural distinctions between them but the religions can be uniform even
04:14:58.060
absent culture so for instance muslim religion in africa could be exactly the same religion which is
04:15:03.580
followed in the middle of qatar whatever right sure but the point is is though is yeah we can even take
04:15:08.940
into account these cultural considerations but if most of the world is religious and i've and you agree
04:15:15.660
that it is and we can empirically demonstrate that you empirically know that that's true uh then i don't
04:15:20.620
understand how i haven't given you a good logical demonstration because we also know that it seems
04:15:25.020
that most people are against promiscuity there are less and less religious people as time goes on like
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you only in the west okay so i live in the west so that's what i'm debating yeah i already gave you
04:15:35.740
i already gave you that if we're considering the whole world then absolutely that's fair but if we're
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talking about american culture i just don't think it's fair to say that most men want a woman who's
04:15:45.260
a virgin or inexperienced most people in the united states identify with a religion most okay well
04:15:53.100
you would i mean if you're talking about somewhere between somewhere between 19 and 30 percent
04:15:58.620
who's self-id is agnostic or atheist and even those people will often identify as being culturally
04:16:03.900
christian so the thing is is that if that's true even here the the most the majority of people even
04:16:09.980
here and the immigrants which come into the country come in usually with a religious background south
04:16:15.500
america especially they're catholic uh if they're coming in from the east they're muslim um you know or
04:16:21.340
they're uh there's many other religions okay there's even christian sex that allow polygamy and
04:16:28.140
then there's all the different sects of paganism that don't there's very few and the west does not
04:16:33.420
allow polygamy it's it's good it's not only illegal it's considered moral okay and the christian christians
04:16:38.940
christian polygamists are not allowed to be polygamous okay maybe not legally but you want to act
04:16:43.740
no not even not even spiritually is it legal in nevada no it's not legal to be a polygamist in nevada
04:16:52.780
okay wait so let me ask you a question here do you think that like do you think that men are thinking
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i like her but i would like her more had she fucked more men before me no i don't think it's a matter of
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that i just think sometimes guys want a woman who's more experienced and unfortunately they're
04:17:14.540
not going to find that in a virgin okay i would argue the men that want first off let's be real here
04:17:22.220
most pussy is good pussy it's really not hard all that hard sex isn't this complicated procedure
04:17:30.780
especially as a woman for women to be good in bed it really doesn't take much so this idea that
04:17:36.220
the more sexual partners you've had that also actually on that note wouldn't you argue that the
04:17:42.860
woman who's had one sexual partner but she's had sex with that partner a thousand times is going to
04:17:47.740
be more sexually experienced than the woman who slept with a hundred men one time each there's so many
04:17:54.940
there's so many variables to this how experimental is that one couple if they're doing the same
04:17:58.620
every time then they're not really she's not getting a lot of experience okay you know the the
04:18:03.580
one of the one of the kind of cheap shots um that's often used by pure empiricists is this idea
04:18:10.140
of a multi-faceted variables making the thing too so complex that we can't actually make any deductions
04:18:16.620
from it or inductions from it but the truth is is that correlates there's usually primary correlates and
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then there's kind of non-prim you know non-primary correlates we still can look at primary correlates here
04:18:30.620
when we're looking at data yeah right you i mean you would agree that that's true so yes just kind
04:18:35.340
of just kind of waving it off and saying hey you know there's there's tons and tons of variables
04:18:40.140
nobody's going to dispute that there's there's tons of variables but there's still going to be prime
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correlates that we can look at and that's what brian's kind of pointing to is he's prime correlates
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yeah i think that's fair i'm not i'm not saying that it's not a lot of men who would prefer to be with
04:18:54.140
a virgin or someone who has a lower body count i'm just saying you can't put this broad
04:18:58.140
generalization on everyone because even on social media you can read through hundreds of comments
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of men saying the opposite so i'm just saying objectively until there's like a recent study
04:19:10.460
and that these men don't exist but generally speaking if we're having a converse we could
04:19:16.540
talk about the dating habits of dwarfs i guess it would be happy that we look you want to talk about
04:19:22.620
these specific dating habits of dwarfs who live in ecuador we can talk about it if you want but
04:19:28.780
if we're speaking about just generalities here we can arrive at some generalities and generally
04:19:35.500
speaking men prefer sexual purity in women maybe the men in the study i just study i'm just telling you
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like our age group i need not even look at a study to make this determination everyone's going to have
04:19:50.620
their own antidote yes of course there and i'm telling you in our age group yeah there's a lot
04:19:55.420
of age sure there's a large portion of men who prefer women who are more experienced so it's so
04:20:01.180
it's not as relevant to them let's talk about how many partners they have do you think it's a majority
04:20:05.020
of men that prefer women with a lot of sexual experience i mean i don't know that's the whole point
04:20:11.340
is that i don't know you don't know okay so i wouldn't feel confident in saying yes so just to be
04:20:17.340
clear if a high body count is proxy for promiscuity do you think a man would prefer to date a woman who
04:20:25.420
hasn't had sex in a year or let's say date and sleep with he'd prefer to sleep with a woman who
04:20:32.300
hasn't had sex in a year or a woman who fucked a guy an hour ago which yeah for sure okay what about
04:20:38.940
a day ago i mean some men don't give a shit but for the most part yeah i think you don't think you
04:20:43.820
have a disgust response i think to a woman who's recently fucked another guy this is what i can tell
04:20:50.140
you from having been a dancer when i was younger let me ask you a question didn't earlier you said
04:20:53.980
that you wouldn't date a bi guy yes why but i for multiple reasons because he recently had sex with
04:21:01.740
another man right well that was that was y'all's topic but yes okay yeah no and again so my value
04:21:08.540
system is very similar do you do you have like a kind of a what was your response to your your
04:21:15.420
refusal to to dating a bisexual man i want was it a disgust response there's not a disgust no didn't
04:21:22.780
you say like i want someone who's attracted to me and what i am who was the one who said
04:21:27.740
it would be gross because he just maybe it was you it wasn't me it was you okay all right uh but you
04:21:34.460
would i understand that perspective yeah right so like i absolutely validate that i'm just telling
04:21:40.220
you like from my experience having done only fans when i was younger being a dancer when i was younger
04:21:45.180
most men don't care as much as y'all would like to pretend no not most men i've never had a where's
04:21:49.900
your where's your study for that i said it was anecdotal experience
04:21:56.940
and as i was trying to get at the point earlier is that men probably have a preference for
04:22:03.500
attractive women that happen to not be virgins now what i was because i was she's saying it
04:22:13.340
alluding to the fact that a lot of attractive women are not going to be virgin yeah valdev donated
04:22:20.220
two hundred dollars and so pro christian atheist here i can promise you men will gladly bang a
04:22:25.980
whore very very few men will wet a whore this show exists to tell women how men think listen to
04:22:31.420
what the men are saying you think it's a w by the way good to see you back in the chat valdev
04:22:36.940
like do you think that's a w for you as a woman well guys still want to fuck me no no
04:22:41.260
where's the ring where's the commitment where's the title okay i mean i've been married for 10
04:22:45.260
years and i was a huge whore back in the day sure so there's outliers yes there are outliers
04:22:49.660
already said that i don't do only fans i want to be with someone who is monogamous i'm not
04:22:55.820
attracted to people with high body counts i don't have a high body count so if i if i sat here and
04:23:01.340
i denied that women are attracted to tall men would you look at me like i'm an idiot no
04:23:07.740
and i don't okay no one is women don't have a general you don't you don't hold on your be good
04:23:13.660
faith here really you really think that women generally speaking don't have a preference for
04:23:19.100
tall men yes 100 everyone has a point yeah yeah yeah i just think that the next stop i think that
04:23:29.900
you guys hope that men yeah right view things the way you do and i would hope that there was more men
04:23:34.140
that view it that way but in reality i just don't think that's the case i don't yeah but i mean anybody
04:23:39.100
in reality we do think it's the case so uh this is the problem i would be at one side of your mouth
04:23:45.020
bank hang on there's a problem at one side of the mouth you bank on empiricism and then on the
04:23:49.900
other side of your mouth to make your arguments you bank on anecdotal evidence i just want to know
04:23:53.660
i don't see i don't see any reason you guys get i don't see any reason i want to know how much sex
04:23:59.100
you guys both have had in the last middle of talking calm down so i don't i don't know why it is
04:24:04.620
that we should actually believe your arguments if they're just anecdotal you don't know how many guys
04:24:09.660
have you fucked the past two months that's a good question what's your argument i don't know
04:24:15.740
i just feel like men are angry that don't get i don't know if you i don't know if you heard what
04:24:19.260
she said but she was like i wonder how many how much sex you guys have so how many guys have you
04:24:23.980
fucked the past month i asked you first how many when's the last time you had sex answer the question
04:24:30.140
no i asked you a question first i've already told you i don't discuss that sort of stuff then i
04:24:33.740
don't discuss it either okay all right well so on with it's fair i'll discuss it i'll answer if you
04:24:41.740
answer you ready go ahead okay wait she had no she hasn't agreed hold on she hasn't agreed yeah we
04:24:50.540
got to make sure you we get do you if andrew discloses will you disclose yes that's fair okay
04:24:57.260
great i've had sex with one woman this last year how many of you have said how much sex how much sex
04:25:01.580
have you had i have sex every day oh as it should be well then good yeah how about you now answer
04:25:09.340
please every day i've had sex with one person and uh i've had i don't know probably six or seven
04:25:16.300
times in the last two months was that the question yeah i'm happy what about you brian oh wait he doesn't
04:25:24.300
yeah i don't even understand the argument the argument is basically like if you're a man if you're
04:25:29.500
a man then you have an opinion on this uh your opinion's only valid if you've had sexual intercourse
04:25:36.540
anyway all i'm saying is i i think it probably is the case that maybe there's a little bit more
04:25:41.420
but i think a study should be done for me to feel confident agreeing to that just because i've seen
04:25:47.580
again and i admitted it's anecdotal evidence of men portraying one thing and then in reality not
04:25:52.460
giving a fuck yeah i've never had an only fans friend that could not find men i've never and it
04:25:57.660
really be like the most red-pilled dude like the sissy sub is the most red-pilled person that i know
04:26:03.660
and a lot of the suburbs on your on only fans are people's like coach dads or like the ones like i'm
04:26:09.740
against only fans so i just have a hard time accepting without evidence that most men in today's
04:26:16.860
society prefer virgins but i understand the reasoning for preferring virgins or people
04:26:23.260
that don't have a high body count i don't dispute that in any way okay so look here's the situation
04:26:27.820
right will a woman who's promiscuous will a woman who's engaged in sex work be able to find a boyfriend
04:26:34.860
yes can they find a husband yes but we're having a conversation of what men prefer so just because
04:26:42.300
and i don't men might prefer one thing or the other i think they just want to be the hot
04:26:45.820
shit yeah i think they want to get laid and they don't really i'll give you look they want to get
04:26:50.140
fucked i would perfectly personally me personally if it's between like a girl who's a seven who's a virgin
04:26:56.860
and i'm talking just to be clear talking about her physical appearance here jesus christ somebody's
04:27:02.620
gonna clip that shit uh and then a woman who's like a 10 who slept with 100 men i'm i'd much
04:27:11.100
prefer to date and have a relationship with the girl who's a seven i feel like the sevens are and
04:27:15.900
i think that's totally fair i'm not arguing that at all like i just think most men don't like the
04:27:22.620
10s are definitely the 10 no nowadays the 10s are definitely having like a lot of sex it's like
04:27:27.740
i think most men are gonna go but and then date an amount but for sevens and above they're still
04:27:35.020
having a lot of sex by the way like they're still having a lot of love to believe that men
04:27:39.500
really uphold the values that hold on you're but just to be clear like the men you probably are around
04:27:46.060
you were a stripper you did only fans no i'm around church men that literally procure
04:27:51.420
you're it's not what's your denomination i'm a non-denominational christian okay should i pick
04:28:00.300
i guess you could say i'm a protestant because i'm not a catholic okay i see how they push for
04:28:04.380
that you could you could classify me as that well we can go in circles on this the whole time did you
04:28:09.100
not find the paternity uncertainty argument that andrew made compelling sure so there's an evolutionary
04:28:14.860
basis so for example so for example if a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all 10 of them
04:28:23.100
prior to dna testing who's the father you don't know but if a man has 10 wives you know who the
04:28:29.900
father is in all instances and you know who the mother is in all instances so for this reason right
04:28:36.540
this reason for it's an evolutionary reason paternity uncertainty it's one of the biggest l's you can take
04:28:41.980
as a guy to raise a child like to to think that the child's yours where there's paternity fraud to
04:28:48.220
think that the child is yours but it actually isn't you got cheated on you got cucked major l for a guy
04:28:53.900
right but like think about it you just had destiny on here recently that is a great uh reflection of men
04:29:00.460
these days i don't think most men give a fuck like most men don't even want to have kids
04:29:05.980
most men are cool with polygamous relationships like most men don't have the standard where they're like
04:29:11.340
like he's not religious that's you think that most men you think that most men want to let their
04:29:17.340
wife get fucked by other men i think a lot of okay maybe not their wife but i think a lot of men just
04:29:22.140
really don't give a fuck about this anymore then why'd you say destiny was a good reflection of the
04:29:25.900
general population i mean there are a lot of men are that way now there's not a lot of men demonstrate
04:29:31.500
it for me make a poll how many people are polygamous like how can i demonstrate it for you when i'm not
04:29:37.180
like no that's not my question how many men do you think let other men on purpose bang their chick
04:29:42.860
i think there's a lot of people in open relationships give us a percentage let's see
04:29:46.780
how many videos around videos because it hasn't if you can show me a fucking poll the united states
04:29:52.380
has why do i have to make your points do you think that non-monogamy is on the rise
04:29:56.860
and do you think that religiousness is going down because both of those things are true
04:30:03.180
in our country yeah but this this is not you demonstrating for us that you think that guys
04:30:08.140
like destiny are a reflection of the general public of men that's an insane claim i think
04:30:13.820
that i would really like to see you justify i'm telling you non-monogamy is on the rise in america
04:30:19.500
religiousness is on the downfall getting those is marriage is on the downfall divorce is at a crazy
04:30:26.540
rate so i think that really reflects that people don't really uphold these
04:30:30.460
morals that were around and fucking you know even 20 years ago but look at what's that climate change
04:30:36.140
that's not i know that's not in any way listen that is in no way shape or form i'm going to grant
04:30:41.740
all of those as being true because they for the most part all are true okay that still has nothing to
04:30:47.900
do with the claim that most men in the general public are letting other men on purpose bang their
04:30:54.460
chicks that's that's an outrageous claim i don't think i think for the most part when you consider
04:31:01.020
that religiousness is not as popular non-monogamy is becoming popular people don't care as much what
04:31:06.460
the fucking body count is am i saying that they shouldn't and i think you should for multiple
04:31:10.700
reasons like someone with a high body count reflects danger on multiple levels physically there is no
04:31:15.260
reason for us to believe that because you're non-religious that because you're non-religious you're
04:31:19.420
going to let other men plow your plow your chick no but your argument was that religious people
04:31:24.300
care about purity and i don't think that's the case either typically yeah but i think that most
04:31:29.100
men why why do you get married even as a secularist do you think that it's so that you can share your
04:31:34.300
chick no but not everybody supports marriage so how does that factor into the debate well most
04:31:39.420
secularists are still getting married no you're kind of proving my point less people are getting
04:31:43.500
married so yeah but secularists are still getting married so the thing is is that secularists
04:31:49.340
are still getting married religious people want virgins or people like i'm not i just want to see
04:31:56.620
data that's backing the point because what i'm saying you're making the point that burdens on you
04:32:01.500
not on us no actually y'all made the point no you made the point that the general public is is like
04:32:07.340
destiny he's a good reflection okay so now you're on a side tangent the general point is that well you
04:32:12.940
can just retract the claim and say you're wrong you say that most men prefer a woman that has a lower
04:32:17.900
body count i'm saying show me any data that reflects that this generation of men give a
04:32:25.500
shit because i don't think they do i think if it's just to sleep with them let us assume that they
04:32:30.140
don't okay let us assume exactly that's not what i think they're talking about i think they're talking
04:32:34.140
about for long-term commitment but like look she's in a long-term committed relationship i have multiple
04:32:39.180
friends that are only fans girls porn stars dancers who are all in committed monogamous relationships
04:32:44.620
so these men's obviously don't give a fuck but they're but she's not in a committed monogamous
04:32:49.500
relationship right unless i yeah i mean they live together very much it's a very seriously yeah and
04:32:56.940
it is a very serious relationship it's the most serious one i've ever oh i wasn't doubting the
04:33:00.060
serious i meant about the monogamy though it's a little different you know it's a little different
04:33:04.860
than what you might think is like normal well that just kind of reiterates the point like you can be
04:33:09.100
in a serious relationship and not even expect monogamy and that's becoming culturally normal and i don't think
04:33:14.060
it's not culturally normal i i'm not you don't think it's culturally normal among our generation
04:33:19.100
it's becoming more in the younger generation not culturally normal anywhere in the united states
04:33:24.540
or in any western nation that i'm aware of if you're married or even have a girlfriend that you
04:33:30.460
on purpose allow other men to plow her that is not a cultural norm no okay so is the argument they're
04:33:37.260
ostracized by other men they're called cucks by other men they're uh considered to be less virtuous
04:33:42.940
they're mocked they're they're ridiculed endlessly but that sounds like the opposite
04:33:47.420
let's stay on the point let's stay on the point that it reflects that men do not care how many
04:33:52.620
women on the table and that's good that you're doing it because that's what your arguments are
04:33:57.100
they're circular but anyway go ahead side tangents to distract from the original point if you can show
04:34:01.820
me data that shows that modern american men care about virginity or body count then i will
04:34:07.420
absolutely concede because i am i've already displayed that i'm willing to do that but the
04:34:12.300
problem your argument is not strong enough for me to do that on this i don't but it doesn't matter
04:34:16.700
if the argument is not strong enough for your skepticism empirical data is not in a standard which
04:34:22.620
must be adhered to when you have logical demonstration so i logically demonstrated to
04:34:27.260
you that there must be some preference for chastity or most of the world wouldn't be religious
04:34:31.820
with chaste religious values okay it must be the case that they must value it to some degree right
04:34:38.060
and i gave you that if we were talking about the whole world and then i clarified that if we're
04:34:42.300
talking about america i just don't see anything that shows that men really care as much as you're
04:34:47.420
claiming i got a question i got a question if we were to do some poll if we were to go into the street
04:34:53.260
and approach a hundred men and we gave them two options and we said would you prefer to date a woman
04:34:59.820
with a body count of 10 or a body count of 100 do you think they would lean more towards one or the
04:35:07.020
other okay let's let's make the question what you said earlier a 10 who has a higher body count
04:35:11.900
no no no no no no no let's do these things factor in like i think men care more about how hot a chick
04:35:19.020
is than they do her body count okay so here we go personality individual differences you can find
04:35:26.060
this study it was done by katie sohn men's revealed preferences regarding women's promiscuity
04:35:32.380
uh in the abstract literally right away in the abstract now if you want i can get into because
04:35:37.660
i think it's fair if you're doing anything that's empirical that you want to probably understand
04:35:42.060
methodologies things like this but men have evolved to exhibit a desire for chastity and sexual fidelity
04:35:47.660
and an abhorrence of promiscuity in long-term mates we investigated whether these preferences
04:35:52.460
manifest themselves even in an unlikely situation like prostitution by observing men's behavior
04:35:57.820
we considered 88 817 prostitutes under 45 who worked in indonesian cities we measured female
04:36:05.260
promiscuity by experience in prostitution so if we go ahead without you know going into every
04:36:13.900
detail essentially in almost every section of this they preferred less promiscuity now you could say
04:36:21.740
well we could adjust because they're comparing them to prostitutes and there's cultural stigma
04:36:25.660
i can understand that too we're also talking about america specifically yeah yeah you can look at all
04:36:30.540
sorts of different uh variables inside the study variables matter yeah yeah i've granted that as being
04:36:36.060
totally fair okay but i just want to let you know that what's interesting about it is that what's cited
04:36:42.220
in the abstract immediately is that men have evolved to exhibit a desire for chastity and sexual fidelity
04:36:47.980
and an abhorrence of promiscuity and long-term mates why would that be fundamental in the abstract from
04:36:54.940
people who have an evolutionary view why would that be the case in the evolution from an evolutionary
04:37:00.940
perspective it's 100 valid and you believe in evolution correct i do then what the hell are you
04:37:07.260
talking about i'm saying that in modern evolution is not the only thing that factors into a person's
04:37:12.460
decision making yes you just said that evolutionarily men have evolved to not like promiscuity but you're
04:37:19.420
not convinced that men don't like promiscuity i'm super confused i'm saying that there's many things
04:37:24.940
that factor into a person's personality and their decision making there's nurture there's nature there's
04:37:28.860
evolutionary biology there's generational influences there's a lot of influences on what makes a person
04:37:34.700
make a decision yeah but what's going to be the stronger so for instance in nature versus nurture
04:37:40.300
we don't really know it could be 50 50 could be 70 30 fair we don't know exactly when you're talking
04:37:46.300
about nature literally is my point but when you're talking about nature itself and almost always does
04:37:51.740
come down to nature you're talking about things like iq things like this 100 there's only x amount
04:37:57.020
that can be done from nurture but the thing that's interesting is that even if we take into account
04:38:01.820
let's say it is a 50 50 between nature and nurture then your evolutionary biology of promiscuity the
04:38:07.740
nurture portion of that would also be brought down to the children from the biological parents who
04:38:15.020
were evolved to not like the promiscuity so you would have both of those strong correlates there you
04:38:21.100
cannot like it but i what was the question on here right like the that if a girl who does only fan
04:38:26.460
is less likely to find a partner and your retort to that is it's because men want someone who's less
04:38:30.940
promiscuous or doesn't have a high body count i think even if that is the case which i'm not saying it is
04:38:36.940
because i don't know i haven't seen anything that convinces me enough that men really care
04:38:41.340
except evolution currently okay on evolutionary level for sure absolutely but that's okay so then
04:38:47.020
the nurture level that's going to be part of evolution and when it comes to if they're actually
04:38:50.620
going to date the only fans girl i don't see many of them not in relationships or lacking we've already
04:38:56.220
we've already granted you that women who do only fans can get into relation we're not saying women who
04:39:02.220
do only fans they'll be forever alone they're going to be entirely precluded from ever having
04:39:06.300
a male partner but i don't think they're even less likely to find someone though wait you literally
04:39:10.540
didn't you literally concede i don't know if it was you i'm saying you don't you don't acknowledge
04:39:15.100
that a woman who's involved in sex work you don't think it closes the door at all for any
04:39:20.220
men yeah first to some guys to most i would argue that's the most men right that's where we're
04:39:25.020
having the disagreement so most would be i just don't most would be 51 or more i don't necessarily
04:39:30.620
you think 51 of men want to date a woman let's let's do the even if they don't want to that doesn't
04:39:36.060
mean that they're not doing it i could say i prefer okay i could say i prefer a guy who doesn't have
04:39:42.140
a high body count and then i meet someone and i fall in love with them and i'm like you know what as
04:39:46.140
long as you're monogamous with me i can look past it and i think that happens a lot for i just have
04:39:51.180
one last one last question right because i just want to i just want to tell you on the other end
04:39:56.380
of the study now to be completely fair to you i'm looking this up on the fly because you're asking for
04:40:00.060
empirical data right um so i mean you have every right to question it but one thing here the results
04:40:07.180
that were derived from this particular study it demonstrated that men exhibited those evolutionary
04:40:12.780
preferences because they paid less to more experienced prostitutes and they paid more
04:40:17.740
to less experienced prostitutes why do you think that would be to avoid stds i'm sure
04:40:23.660
but again you're trying to compare cross hang on these prostitutes
04:40:29.740
thank you thank you donated 500 is a brave and a decent okay let's move raven time to move on all
04:40:36.300
right we gotta mute our mic for 10 minutes because that's a hang on can i just finish it real quick
04:40:40.220
yeah go ahead they controlled for stds so why did they want the less experienced prostitutes and
04:40:46.620
paid them more than the more experienced prostitutes 10 seconds and then if i had to imagine it would be
04:40:52.140
to avoid stds like you're gonna yeah i know that was controlled for they didn't have stds and and
04:40:57.180
the people participating in the study knew this less experienced women are a lot easier to dominate
04:41:03.180
okay um well but wait i thought that the reason that we valued the promiscuity is because of those
04:41:10.700
experienced women who had experience but why are they getting paid less that's weird mute it
04:41:15.580
mute it well we'll put her back on at 10. uh okay it's just like you wouldn't even i was enjoying that
04:41:23.420
argument but okay fair enough you weren't even answering the the 10 versus 100 you mentioned stds
04:41:30.380
hold on well they can't even hear you your microphone's muted look you mentioned stds
04:41:37.660
the more sexual partners you've had the greater risk for stds in any case
04:41:44.860
i'm gonna move on so we're gonna get to our notes here for sky sky you said you were uh engaged in oh
04:41:51.660
we kind of talked about your online thing you took the mushrooms thing yeah he molded a large amount of
04:41:58.060
your interest uh he really did you wasted your time on him you said you used to hook up with a guy who
04:42:03.420
was a mechanic but you're actually kind of terrified that you're terrified of yeah i'm kind of terrified
04:42:09.260
of his um interest in me because for the most part he did you want to read the rest of what he requested
04:42:20.460
from me yeah he wanted to dress he wanted you to dress him up and do his makeup for him to get
04:42:28.300
railed by a dude and for you to watch and degrade him yeah that's essentially what he wanted and so um
04:42:37.500
what it's wild what really terrifies me about the situation is the willingness for him to
04:42:44.140
like did you do it no i haven't done it and i don't plan on doing it it's but you're still with
04:42:51.340
him i wasn't with him okay uh he was the guy that i went on five dates with and what date did he reveal
04:42:59.020
that right he didn't have unveiled that uh until recently he unveiled it like
04:43:06.220
i got with him in like 2020 and then uh since then he's just reached out to me a few times
04:43:17.100
i reached out to him today because i wanted to see how he's doing but why okay um anyways
04:43:23.820
uh you said you disagree with the hosts dating expectations so what are those so necessarily um
04:43:31.420
um when you say the burdens of like dating and primarily being on the guy yeah um i think that
04:43:41.260
the guy chooses essentially who he wants to be with and the woman has to like acquiesce to that
04:43:49.820
like a woman does not set the tone of the relationship by being the one that wants to engage like
04:43:58.780
like she may desire the relationship but he's the one that ultimately decides okay we're going to be
04:44:07.020
together well i don't understand what does that have to do with what does that have to do with uh
04:44:14.940
my dating expectations dating expectations i think i was saying it along the lines of
04:44:20.460
you were framing it as though men have this tremendous burden or this um inequitable burden
04:44:30.140
to date in the dating realm that you know they have to pursue the woman they have to do you disagree
04:44:39.820
with that you don't think men have to be initiators and typically have to i just don't think of it as a
04:44:46.220
burden i think of it yeah uh have you ever approached a guy yes yeah several times do you
04:44:54.220
have any like anxiety when you do that there's no i mean there's definitely emotions involved but i
04:45:00.380
don't think i think the more that you've done it the less sensitive you are to it sure depends on
04:45:07.900
whether or not you're a submissive woman or a dominant woman because if you're an aggressor you're
04:45:11.580
gonna go after the guy i go after the guy i don't wait for the guy to come to me but i'm also very
04:45:15.740
particular the type of guys that i like so so you disagree that it's a burden i don't think i think
04:45:23.980
the phrasing of it being a burden means that like it's a negative experience going into it
04:45:32.380
when in reality how many men have you rejected throughout your life
04:45:40.620
oh i can't no no no no let me ask these other girls here how many men would you say you've
04:45:45.820
rejected throughout the course of your life thousands yeah probably thousands every every
04:45:50.700
dm you don't respond to if you've had the dating app every message you don't respond to
04:45:55.980
uh any guys who've ever approached you at a bar or a club or at school whatever
04:46:02.220
it is uh thousands thousands yeah a lot yeah how many times have you been rejected
04:46:10.060
one time one time what about you twice how many how many guys would you say you've rejected
04:46:17.100
a lot thousands sure thousands hundreds i don't know about thousands um you have you ever been
04:46:24.700
rejected no how many how many uh men have you rejected
04:46:32.940
oh that's right oops uh i've probably rejected around like 20 men total have you ever been on a
04:46:39.660
dating app oh god you've rejected a lot more than 20 men if you've been on a dating app uh have you ever
04:46:48.300
been rejected yes okay how many times at least like 20 okay all right what about you how many times
04:46:56.860
have you rejected men if you include instagram dms and sure yeah instagram dms a lot okay
04:47:04.380
thousands throughout the course of your life i mean maybe if you include the internet yeah include the
04:47:09.580
internet bars clubs men approaching you yeah same thousands thousands madison hundreds uh so if you're
04:47:20.540
a man and say that you're and actually i mean a success rate of like 10 of the women you talk to
04:47:29.500
you end up sleeping with that's a very high success rate for a man how could that not be a burden if you
04:47:36.460
have to talk to 10 women and get you know make an effort make initiative make an attempt who knows
04:47:43.420
how far you could you could take those 10 women on dates even and it not go anywhere how could that
04:47:49.660
not be a burden it's not necessarily a burden i'd say that's not a burden that's the selection pool you
04:47:55.420
go into dating with the idea that okay this is a potential mate this is a potential but it's not
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guaranteed but if we're comparing so we're doing a comparison here between men and women yeah right
04:48:08.620
so the experiences of men compared to the experiences of women if all of these burdens
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fall on men approaching carrying the conversation soliciting a first date soliciting the phone number
04:48:21.740
setting up the date carrying and leading the conversation on the date paying for the date
04:48:26.780
moving things forward physically moving things forward sexually closing the distance gap going for the kiss
04:48:32.060
etc etc etc these are all individual points where men potentially face rejection and women face
04:48:38.220
rejection via like uh their assertion of femininity and or their i don't even know what that means
04:48:47.340
like okay like say for instance uh you're not as receptive to uh move that a guy makes but you're still
04:48:55.740
very much interested in him uh that could be taken what do you mean yeah yeah you're not making sense
04:49:02.700
because if i'm interested in a guy i'm not going to reject him if that he makes right and and like
04:49:06.860
when you say you're of into the mics guys if you're the the assessment of femininity what is what does that
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mean meaning like there's certain dating practices that both men and women have to uphold and
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women have to mentally brace themselves for like um responding to men and being attractive being
04:49:57.340
their idea of what a girlfriend should be um trying to uh forecast his actual um
04:50:06.940
um responsiveness to you as a person because uh sometimes guys will go into relationships
04:50:15.980
and they look for women that don't show them as much attention um because they want i'm sorry
04:50:22.300
i gotta cut you off i don't know what you're can you arrive at the point here like make an actual argument
04:50:27.580
i don't know can i say something sure i think that the counter burden
04:50:38.220
to what you're talking about is like the the dangers of actually dating and going with some
04:50:44.780
guy you don't know like you don't know their intentions and i mean i've had really bad experiences
04:50:50.860
with going on dinner dates where it didn't actually end in dinner so it's definitely a burden okay so
04:50:58.700
we can talk about these uh i mean i'm talking about like normal psychology here like i'm not talking about
04:51:10.220
yeah okay there's a fear that women have of being assaulted but let's talk about like let's
04:51:15.580
say the girl's normal the guy's normal who has the burden there
04:51:23.020
i would like healthy dynamics we can talk about like abnormal psychology and people who are
04:51:29.020
fucked up and people who would be inclined to victimize to you let's talk about just an otherwise
04:51:33.500
healthy first date definitely it's more on the man i would say because the women i feel at least in
04:51:40.300
my experience and there have been exceptions to this but overall i don't really have to do anything
04:51:45.420
besides just kind of existing and show up and being basically polite and friendly um and the guy
04:51:53.340
just he's the one who has to kind of convince me to sleep with him yes exactly basically he does get
04:51:59.660
to decide whether or not we are in a committed relationship for sure but i actually have a fair
04:52:03.580
amount of control over where that goes if the man is truly interested in me in my experience so
04:52:10.140
so i mean you guys could be very much right um i mainly just disagreed with the phrasing of it as
04:52:20.220
being a burden um but i can understand why it would be considered a burden for men to go through all
04:52:28.860
those lengths and then not and then get rejected well well hang on in this in this case in this context
04:52:35.260
when he's saying burden he's not saying burden is in burden some necessarily but what the obligation
04:52:41.820
or social obligation of that's that's what kind of that means in that context of burden who has the
04:52:48.060
burden to pay for the date doesn't necessarily mean that it's burdensome that a man pays for the date but
04:52:53.740
we're just asking who do you think has kind of the obligation that's that's what that means in that
04:52:58.380
context okay i honestly i think that's something that should be on the rise to change especially
04:53:05.660
with all women talking about oh i want equality and this and then well if you want equality then
04:53:10.380
pay for half the goddamn date put your card out on the table when it's time to pay instead of go to the
04:53:15.500
bathroom um like most women do in my experience with dating i've been i'm considered a modern woman um i
04:53:23.180
don't necessarily expect the guy to pay for the date um and dates that i've been on i've paid for
04:53:30.060
myself before um but most recently i say was a traditional experience where i went out with a
04:53:40.300
guy and he paid for everything um and he didn't expect me to um how question how many times have you
04:53:47.820
had that experience once okay um any women here like have any women here been on like more than
04:53:57.420
one date where the guy took care of everything yes what what do you guys think is more common
04:54:05.580
the man taking care of everything or the woman taking care of everything i've never i've never been
04:54:11.180
on a date with a girl where i ever could have gone in with the expectation that she was going to pay for
04:54:16.060
the whole thing has never happened in my entire life never it's either split or i pay that the
04:54:22.620
that's it the way i've dated in the past before i was married was if i invite the guy out then i'm
04:54:28.460
going to expect to pay because i invited him i extended the invitation so if i say hey let's go to
04:54:34.460
a movie or let me take you out to dinner then i'm gonna pay why because i invited him out because i
04:54:39.820
want to that i'm not saying that you know if he decides oh no no let me pay or let me pay for half
04:54:44.780
yeah i'm gonna let him because he's taking the initiative to want to do more but that doesn't
04:54:48.940
necessarily mean that everything's always on the guy and i think that's the narrative that should
04:54:52.780
change is that it shouldn't always be on the guy because guys shouldn't necessarily have to be
04:54:57.020
burdened with all of it he's just saying as of right now the burden is typically no for sure and
04:55:01.420
that's i know i agree with him and burden doesn't even like he was saying it's just it just translate
04:55:05.660
to responsibility well yeah but i don't think even in my experience and this is a very unique
04:55:12.220
experience uh the burden of conversation is necessarily on the guy meaning i have to engage
04:55:19.740
intellectually with him uh bring up topics of conversation keep things interesting and not just
04:55:27.100
you know like kind of if i did what most women do on the first date there would be dead silence
04:55:35.020
on the first like i'm telling you women are not prepared to carry the conversation
04:55:40.700
on the first date what kind of women are you dating some women are some women are good
04:55:44.700
conversation women some women are good however like if i if if i were to like if i were to just be
04:55:52.620
silent and kind of like wait for to see what the woman does it would be really awkward conversationally
04:56:01.820
it would be really awkward here let's play let's play that we're on a date okay i'm gonna be a chick
04:56:07.500
okay go okay uh what do you do for work podcaster oh interesting so how long have you been doing that
04:56:15.660
for two years two years and uh have you ever considered any career changes nope i like what i do
04:56:22.620
you like what you do i like what i do too do you have these girls brian who are these girls who hurt
04:56:29.020
you like that tell me tell me you've never had a conversation like this with the guy
04:56:34.300
i typically am the one rambling yeah the first thing that we talk about should not be like what
04:56:38.540
we do for work to be honest well that's la if you're in la that's that's why my dating bio is
04:56:43.180
like i'm not trying to do that small talk bullshit actual interest and like personality and well i
04:56:48.700
mean that takes work though that takes emotional labor um i thought we were still having our
04:56:56.700
conversation you weren't interested you weren't interested in my conversation uh so you said
04:57:02.540
that when you were 17 you made a tinder to gain experience with guys because you didn't get any
04:57:06.460
attention from guys in high school in high school yeah you guessed you weren't their type even though i
04:57:12.140
went to school with like 7 000 kids i went yeah so uh never got approached by a guy in high school
04:57:20.300
no i'm well i'm more focused on the tinder tinder at 17 well i mean isn't that against the rules or
04:57:27.660
that it is against the rules and it's dangerous and it's dangerous but i did it anyway okay you're
04:57:33.820
putting you're putting lots of men at risk yeah i mean some states it's the legal age like i know
04:57:39.580
louisiana you can be 17 but still it's still like i agree i've always been in california anyways um
04:57:45.740
disavow that but you said you believe that you kind of ruined your youthful experience by forcing
04:57:50.380
yourself to experiment i think you've always been hypersexual and the fact that i didn't get attention
04:57:55.900
in school made you act out and seek male validation online yes um i think uh um me not experiencing like
04:58:06.620
an organic relationship with a guy uh in my youth really informed my relationships with men
04:58:16.460
going into my 20s because uh i didn't really have any male friends i didn't have any males that were
04:58:24.540
seeking my uh attention um and if they were they weren't making it obvious that they were seeking my
04:58:32.220
attention um so i and i i'm not going to talk about it because it's tos um but i've been hypersexual from a
04:58:45.500
fairly young age like i've um i've known what porn was for a very long time and so i knew exactly the
04:58:57.020
the the ways around like the body and i was very curious to all right okay okay um moving on you
04:59:06.140
said that your main contention with age gap relationships is that the value of both men
04:59:10.220
and women diminish in society as they age and people of similar value should be together people
04:59:15.900
that are older cannot sustain themselves as long as the youth can yeah so do you object to age gap
04:59:21.580
relationships um yes for the most part okay so is anybody here in an age gap relationship me what's
04:59:28.860
your what's your relate nine years i'm older oh you're older and you're so you're 45 and he's
04:59:35.500
34 35 36 35 okay and then what about you yeah everyone i've dated except the last guy i gave a
04:59:43.820
chance has been seven plus years older my husband's 41 okay uh so andrew's probably keen to uh weigh in
04:59:52.780
on this but what are your uh i guess your actual objections to age gap relationships i expressed that
05:00:00.460
the value uh that you're going to put in a relationship as you get older is going to change
05:00:05.580
uh and it's going to be less or more i think it's less we've also as you get older
05:00:11.660
isn't it wait and i have the beholder because i love some older men let me tell you i like like
05:00:18.140
some young one of the complaints i hear from younger women like women who are in college 18 19 20 21 is
05:00:25.100
they say these men don't want commitment they just want to fuck they're fuck boys uh
05:00:32.300
it seems to me that younger men tend to lean towards not being a little bit more opposed to
05:00:37.500
commitment than men who are a bit older uh i would disagree um i think that um younger men are probably
05:00:53.340
less likely to say that they want a relationship with a girl because um
05:00:59.420
they have nerves about them i don't know i don't know why men or why people think that younger men
05:01:10.860
don't want relationships with women i think it's based on topics like we talked about promiscuity so
05:01:19.420
we're in a culture where promiscuity is on the rise and um your intentions with somebody may be
05:01:29.260
askew so i in my encounters with men that i've had they're very much open to relationships it's just a
05:01:38.140
matter of position and place and the person that they're looking for and not necessarily didn't you
05:01:46.060
say you've been single your whole life yes well i mean if you're meeting all these men that are
05:01:52.060
open to having relationships what has precluded you from having a relationship i'm not meeting a
05:01:58.300
bunch of men that are interested in me necessarily or okay that's fair well let's bring it back to age
05:02:04.780
gap though so i'm still can you explain a little better kind of your objections there sorry yeah other
05:02:10.940
than it just being icky which but why is it icky yeah why is it why is it legal consenting age right
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i i didn't meet my husband when he was in high school i met him when he was a grown man
05:02:22.700
um i think does it give you the ick it gives you the ick it gives me the ick
05:02:31.260
doesn't it because i've always experienced uh the world where people of a similar age have a similar
05:02:39.740
outlook on life and you once you cross cross a certain boundary threshold that changes and it
05:02:49.660
could take lead to people being taken advantage of um even if they're you're right these young women
05:02:56.940
are taking advantage of these older men resources they're they're they're fleecing them for money
05:03:03.260
you're right these young women are predatory who's who's taken well in my my instance for example who's
05:03:09.260
taking advantage of who then am i taking advantage of my husband because he's younger or is he taking
05:03:13.260
advantage of me because i'm older um it could be a situation of both of you taking advantage of each
05:03:19.420
other how how is that what do you mean take it how does that work he's taking advantage of the fact
05:03:23.980
that you're older and you probably have less options advantages and bad what do you mean i have
05:03:27.740
less shots fired first of all wait wait first of all options for a potential mate that's not true at all
05:03:34.860
because i'm a i'm a grab okay that's first and foremost secondly just because i'm nine years
05:03:41.900
older than my husband does not mean that i have less options if him and i broke up tomorrow or if
05:03:46.860
he died tomorrow trust me i'm gonna be riding some dick eventually in a week or two okay but it's it's
05:03:52.700
a matter of i'm just basing facts facts are facts okay so do you think that you would find a man of
05:04:01.180
similar value to him at your age absolutely someone that is your age i don't date men my age
05:04:09.900
why not because i date men that are younger than me for a particular reason why because they can keep
05:04:14.860
up with me older men that is one older men older men cannot keep up with someone like me i'm a hyper
05:04:24.380
bitch so if you can't keep up then i have no use for you so there's no advantage being taken if
05:04:30.060
especially if i'm older you would think that i would be taking advantage of him right well it's an
05:04:35.660
advantage i mean i don't think taking advantage is necessarily right i'm not forcing him to have
05:04:40.860
sex with me he wants to have sex with me there's no there's no taking advantage of i'm not holding my
05:04:45.420
husband by the head for you because he's younger and you get the sex you want because you're crazy
05:04:50.140
in the bed you know so it's advantage and it's not bad right it's not a bad advantage but i wasn't
05:04:56.540
carrying his books home for him for school at school when he was 17 i wasn't saying that
05:05:00.620
i was just saying i'm in favor of older men obviously but playing devil's advocate it can
05:05:08.620
be the case that predatory people pick younger people because they're easier to manipulate and
05:05:15.100
they are naive and they're easier to mold and control that is absolutely a thing but i don't
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think you can say that that's just broadly every dynamic like that right and it's not
05:05:25.180
hang on hang on hang on do you have a study for that do you have an example
05:05:30.540
hang on who made the claim okay so let me let me pull you hang on you just said i don't think that
05:05:38.220
that's generally what's going on i don't think and do you have any empirical evidence to back that up
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at all she doesn't want to make generalizations because not every relationship that was she
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literally said i don't think generally that's what's going on no no i don't think generally
05:05:56.300
that's what's going on right you don't do you have any empirical evidence whatsoever to support that
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okay you generally don't want me to write you a thesis and come back and tell you i'm not asking
05:06:05.420
for a thesis i'm asking hey there's a reason i'm asking this because earlier you jumped all over brian
05:06:11.580
and said hang on let me finish sorry sorry you jumped all over brian and you were all kinds
05:06:16.540
of upset with him because he was not demonstrating empirical evidence to go with a generalized statement
05:06:23.340
and yet here hang on you made a claim and you said generally i don't think that's what's going on
05:06:29.340
and you also have no empirical evidence whatsoever to back that claim up correct i think it's actually
05:06:35.020
backwards i think y'all were the ones that got upset and like muted me i was like happy to debate it
05:06:38.700
it um i wasn't upset at all like i i like to debate and and further my understanding of things
05:06:45.100
by hearing opposite sides so like i'm not upset just because we may not come to the same conclusion
05:06:49.900
but you wanted but now with any with any topic am i going to just have like the best debate thing
05:06:55.580
prepared like no i would there's some things that if it's being uh presented to you for the first time
05:07:01.020
you're going to talk in generalities right yeah i mean i'm not good and that's okay to do right and
05:07:06.940
so sometimes so maybe asking for empirics when if you're not uh if you're not prepared to have my
05:07:12.780
studies ready in a moment's notice if it's okay for you to do then it's okay for us to do that sound
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fair yeah but sometimes things are like common sense and i'm just saying i don't that's what he was
05:07:22.780
saying i just genuinely don't think that's the case but i admit that it's my anecdotal experiences
05:07:27.740
yeah yeah so i'm just saying that if you know what's good for the goose good for the gander
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right no i feel like so instead of like trying to trash us i think there are not having empirical
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evidence just remember that you often speak in generalities without having any either so yeah i
05:07:43.020
mean yeah sure but if i had like a jamie i'm sure he could pull up like there's got to be studies on
05:07:48.460
there's no jamie here yeah no i know i'm saying generally speaking generally yeah generally do you
05:07:54.220
have a study for if you generally had a jamie that you would pull up the right oh my god
05:08:00.460
so anyway there's gotta be studies on that when you're talking about the ick
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the it gives you the ick me are you talking to me yeah yeah yeah the ick it gives you the ick
05:08:11.020
gives her um you you wouldn't say though that it's an immoral thing right it's not actually immoral
05:08:18.460
i oh shit i think it isn't immoral because it's legal and it's there's no um
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i haven't i don't think i can make a justification for why why is it icky why do you find it ick
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what about it is ick what about me having sex with a guy who's 36 and i'm 45 what does that what's
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what's the effector there do you want me to be like no holds bar do it yeah let's go find out let's
05:08:51.980
go um i think it just points to a desperation in both parties for a sense of except you've been
05:09:03.820
you've been single your entire life what and i've been married for 10 years to the same guy
05:09:08.620
but continue like get defensive and start like getting angry with one another i'm just i'm
05:09:13.020
making a point i'm making she's been single her whole life so with what experience and what you
05:09:18.700
know wherewithal knowledge do you have on this topic she's an absurd well okay but earlier we
05:09:23.900
were talking about only fans and you don't have only fans right but you can still have an opinion
05:09:27.260
on it so you don't always have to have her experience y'all be nice nice i don't know i just
05:09:32.300
like is that not a valid enough reason i see i mean that like you can imagine from from a if you
05:09:42.140
were to say take a conservative christian for instance then you were to lay all of his moral
05:09:47.180
intuitions on things that gave him the ick and called that moral that that would lead to all sorts
05:09:52.620
of things immoral you probably wouldn't they're all donated two hundred dollars okay so then guys who
05:09:58.540
date older women have mommy issues and are overall weird men generally age like wine and women
05:10:04.620
generally age like bananas age gap is perfectly normal when guy is older i would love to see a
05:10:10.780
picture of you mr meeple mr meeple send a picture she wants to have carnal knowledge with you she wants
05:10:18.620
you romantically and sexually mr meeple but she needs a photo first also not to mention women of melanated
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color do not age like bananas thank you very much that is it is true why women age like bananas
05:10:34.540
are you talking you're not ugly you're just poor no no no we've seen kylan jenner hold on more like
05:10:39.500
plantains i've been playing yeah yeah like is it not bananas but plantains okay uh right like for
05:10:49.500
example maddie maddie's asian i'm hispanic and black we we don't we don't age the same we don't age
05:10:54.380
the same oh my god no that's true that there are studies on that that melanin does make you age
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better that is a real thing about this oh i just made the shit up white don't blight white don't
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blight white don't blight you're so stupid what does that mean you know you don't know what blight
05:11:09.980
is white don't blight hold on let me google this shit just to make sure i'm giving no that that would
05:11:14.780
be correct the blight yeah like you're talking about blight like potato blights and shit like that
05:11:20.700
a thing that spoils or damages um uh yeah so we're all spoiled if white blight oh my no that's
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not what i'm saying he was trying to make a joke oh okay sorry it's like it's hard to tell sometimes
05:11:35.980
when i got the joke yeah okay um i i'm gonna move things on a little bit here going to corinne sir
05:11:43.900
you said i can personally guarantee that you haven't had any women like me on your show i have
05:11:50.060
no problem in laying into people especially if they're just morons that need to be taken down a
05:11:54.700
peg or two it's true i know i have some invaluable dating advice and i'll lead with this one uh never
05:12:00.860
believe your parents or the advice they give you about sex or dating yeah absolutely what that's why
05:12:06.700
uh yeah because i mean let's go back to back in the day i'm talking about before the internet i mean
05:12:13.500
i grew up without the internet i grew up without any gps or anything like that so of course your
05:12:19.260
parents are trying to protect you and tell you certain things about dating and tell you who are
05:12:24.140
who and what not to date because back in the day for sure they're trying to keep you like for example
05:12:29.260
straight and narrow yeah well not even straight and narrow like culturally a lot of cultures will be
05:12:34.060
like date within your own culture i'm not dating spanish man because there's some i could be
05:12:38.060
related to one of them i'm not trying to do that but further the likelihood of that happening though
05:12:43.900
i mean it's happened it's happened if you're from a small island it's happened you've dated a cousin
05:12:49.420
i'm i i haven't but you know if you go if you're coming from a place like haiti puerto rico jamaica
05:12:56.300
there's been a chance that you dated someone that you're somewhat related to that's it's happened
05:13:00.220
it's going to happen you know with if you're only staying within your culture and it's cup your
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culture is literally an island this big the chances of you dating a fourth a third cousin is probably
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happened okay but how does that apply to parental advice because your parents are going to guide you
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to do things moralistically as far as like church values things like that you know if you if you grow
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up religious your parents are going to tell you not to have sex before marriage now i'm i don't think
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that's good i'd like to know what i'd like to know what i'm getting into before i marry like i'm not
05:13:32.940
like i made this point earlier today with the girls was you you chest out the product before you buy it
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no my grandmother literally taught us you you try the milk before you buy the cow so i don't know who
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y'all's parents are maybe it's like a louisiana thing and they're they are crazy in louisiana but
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for the most part a lot of people that i i've known yeah but that's that's advice towards men they're
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supposed to give that advice to women the advice is supposed to be for men you go and you
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test out the cow before you buy the cow cow is female okay don't buy the bull she didn't say go
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test out the bull no no she actually what no she had this thing hanging and it said both things it
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said don't buy the pig before you test the sausage too swear to god it said both things
05:14:12.940
i i need to know what kind of sausage i'm getting before i buy before i buy it grandma crazy they are
05:14:17.980
the whole family my mom used to tell me if you're ever gonna smoke weed just come to me instead i don't
05:14:22.380
want you smoking cigarettes i'm like damn dude yeah it's crazy if i if i was talking to a guy for
05:14:28.380
like three years and then we got married and then we and then we waited to have sex and his and he
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couldn't please me then i would honestly probably end up in a divorce because what what if he was
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like good to you in every other way though but if you couldn't please if you couldn't please me
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sexually that's a huge factor like sex is a huge factor like my grandmother told me if you want to if
05:14:49.020
you want if you want to keep a white guy cup his balls when you're sucking his dick that's what
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she said oh my god my most recent that is no lie actually i just i just ran into that that's what
05:14:59.900
grandma said grandma said i want to know the stats of how many men have affairs on their wives that they
05:15:04.700
married virgins uh it's actually quite low so your chance of divorce drastically go down if you get
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married as a virgin male and a virgin female your chances of stepping outside your marriage go drastically
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down as well yeah that is not a problem anybody at this table is ever going to have but uh it is
05:15:24.060
you know for it that that is what the stats show okay well so what is wrong though with like parents
05:15:32.220
trying to guide their children and like the right sometimes they sometimes parents can guide you in
05:15:37.100
the wrong direction for example if you grow up in a super religious home and you're taught as a man
05:15:41.740
not to masturbate because masturbating is bad or that you know self-love or self-care is bad that
05:15:47.180
guy is not going to really know what the fuck he's doing later on in life when he's trying to
05:15:51.500
get involved in a relationship sexually i think people figure it out yeah but i mean that's the
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point the the whole point is to attempt to keep a person chaste in order to keep their virtue intact
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so i mean like from from your perspective i understand what you're saying you're saying
05:16:07.900
look um for me i want sexual liberation and this type of thing but i mean for most parents they're
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going to want to try to keep you away from a bad crowd they're going to try to keep your virtues
05:16:17.260
intact your reputation intact because that doesn't actually matter in life it is part of success in life
05:16:23.660
is virtue and that is the thing that used to be part of that whole culture you're talking about
05:16:28.780
pre-internet same culture i grew up in and virtues did matter and you know what here's the thing
05:16:35.420
everyone knew who the skanks were in high school and we didn't treat them that great that's just the
05:16:40.220
truth we didn't treat them that great and um yeah they didn't they didn't have it great just saying
05:16:46.780
so i understand why parents would lean towards trying to keep those virtues intact for both
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uh their sons and their daughters it made it makes a lot of sense i mean i'm of the opinion
05:16:58.220
and my dad convinced me of this just getting older that the word of your parents is like the word of
05:17:04.220
god and unless they touch you then what okay well we can't get into that we're not going to get into
05:17:11.980
that on the on the podcast on youtube i just like don't like the the derogatory words that are used for
05:17:18.540
women that are like to have sex because like there's women like like myself that have been through horrible
05:17:26.460
sexual experiences and that's going to make you act in a way when you're a child and you don't know
05:17:31.820
any better in a way that people could label you but that doesn't define you as a whole person just
05:17:36.860
because you like well let's um let's grant it for a second and say yes that's correct there could be
05:17:42.780
women who have emotional issues due to some type of horrific experiences that they have in their
05:17:48.140
childhood there's plenty of women who have no horrific experiences early in their childhood and are often
05:17:54.140
also promiscuous why can't those labels be used towards those women i just feel like using like
05:18:01.260
oh those women weren't treated well as an excuse to like it's just for whore behavior for i i don't
05:18:08.460
think that's fair to treat something like because what about the men that are whoring around how did
05:18:12.780
those men get treated yeah but that's how what about the men do just stop for a second you're making a
05:18:19.740
typical what about the mendo argument so let's start let's start first not what about the mendo why
05:18:25.900
is everybody not mad at the men let's start with the first claim which i don't like the fact that
05:18:32.060
society will use and by the way women do this to women far more than men do one of the first derogatory
05:18:37.820
thing a woman does to another woman is call her um yeah that's the first thing that they do they they
05:18:43.740
that's what they do i mean so maybe that's so the thing is they do hang on hang on so the thing is
05:18:48.860
is like yes these things uh the reason that these terms are used you could say strumpet lady of the
05:18:55.820
night right whatever you want to say they're pointing out not doesn't have virtue that's what they're
05:19:01.660
pointing out not virtuous and and it's a really easy way to use a word to just go no virtue that's
05:19:15.420
you stumped you have a response can i andrew do you hold do you hold the same views towards like
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do you find men who are have like high body counts less uh desirable or like they have less value
05:19:29.100
do you view it the same way well so so like so look so let's dive into this so there's a little
05:19:34.140
bit of nuance here i think what you're asking me is do i think that men who are promiscuous also have
05:19:40.620
lower virtue my answer is yes i think that they have lower virtue as well but not less value in the
05:19:48.220
dating market it seems that women don't have the same preferences that men do when it comes to a higher
05:19:55.900
body count they don't seem to care as much about it in fact they often seem to want to compete for men
05:20:01.340
who have higher body counts because they have women all over them and that's what they're competing
05:20:05.820
over so women don't have to compete for hierarchy but they do have to compete with each other to grab
05:20:11.260
somebody inside of a hierarchy so that's been general human conditioning so women are always
05:20:16.220
competing with each other so if women see other women gravitating towards a single man they tend to
05:20:21.580
compete more for that man so it doesn't actually lower their value in the dating marketplace but i think
05:20:26.060
it lowers their value as far as virtue goes i was just curious your stance on it in general
05:20:32.860
but also women will compete for married men too they see a ring on a man's because they're high
05:20:37.020
value yes exactly yeah but but that's just but that's the same thing you're talking about you're
05:20:43.100
saying they're competing with a man who another woman desires and that makes them gravitate towards
05:20:49.180
that man the same thing happens with women when they're um you know going after single men if they
05:20:54.620
see that he gets a lot of female attention they tend to gravitate more towards him why do you think
05:20:58.700
women are always out with these ugly ass fucking rock stars right they they're always that because
05:21:04.140
they're super desired by other women right even though they're ugly as sin you know like mick jagger's
05:21:09.900
not a good looking guy but he's not he's not having trouble stephen tyler ugliest sin stephen tyler
05:21:16.540
is one of the ugliest men i've probably ever seen he looks more like a woman than most women i know
05:21:21.020
yeah but he's not having trouble picking up chicks dude flavor flavor i just think it's because they
05:21:25.580
have money but i bet if they were ugly and didn't have money then they probably wouldn't be able to
05:21:30.060
get chicks i don't think yeah i got it well i agree maybe whether the woman's gravitating towards
05:21:37.260
him because he has money uh or they're gravitating towards him because he's really good looking it
05:21:41.020
doesn't matter the fact that they're gravitating towards him does not seem to be a deterrent from
05:21:45.180
other women it's a deterrent to me yeah i'm i mean i'm sure to some women but generally speaking
05:21:57.980
wow good time to return what did i miss anything interesting i don't know uh going back to you you
05:22:05.500
said you're 45 but you look 33 without a bucket of makeup yeah like when i know that's what you run on
05:22:12.220
no uh you said you're married but not legally because that's stupid yep yeah you did say you
05:22:18.220
were married for 10 years but not legally married so within the church or we went to um the little
05:22:24.700
chapel in vegas so we just got married for us just to kind of re-solidify our relationship and
05:22:29.740
commitment to each other and the reason why we didn't do it legally is because i don't need the
05:22:34.060
government tracking every our every move and i'd rather be independent with my own money he has his money
05:22:39.740
if anything were to go sour south between the two of us he can go his way i can go my way we live
05:22:44.540
in california where it's divided 50 50. my ambitions and pursuits with my career could catapult
05:22:51.740
me to be a multi-millionaire and then he's a musician and same thing goes for him so why muck up
05:22:57.820
our money together if especially nothing is forever nothing is for certain so i'd rather you
05:23:02.940
know him protect his assets i protect mine yes now you said that you're also a recovering
05:23:08.540
sex addict with a high body count uh and you said you didn't give us an exact number but you said it
05:23:14.460
was three three digits is that correct okay uh you said you were dating strange men long before social
05:23:20.940
media existed this is true you never knew if you would make it home from a date this is thrilling it
05:23:26.540
was it was because thrilling time it was i mean look as as someone who was a sex addict i was involved in a
05:23:34.380
lot of reckless and very high endangerment situations because of where i came from i suffered through a
05:23:41.740
lot of childhood trauma um things that were categorically like unconceivable for most people
05:23:47.980
i lost both my parents before i finished high school i've been on my own since i was 16 been through it all
05:23:53.340
and with that being said when you get yourself involved i was never into like alcohol i've never
05:23:59.820
been into drugs um none of those things were my vices gambling nothing can we back up just a second
05:24:06.140
in your story um because you you were on your own since you were you're 16 sorry to hear that by the
05:24:11.980
way that's got to suck but thanks you were saying earlier that you think that kids should dismiss their
05:24:17.500
parents advice but if your parents weren't in your life when you were that young wouldn't you have
05:24:22.700
preferred to have had them around to get their advice no because my parents were both reckless
05:24:27.580
people my mother my mother didn't give us any kind of structure she didn't give us any kind of rules
05:24:34.700
if i was going based off of her actions and things that she was doing um then i i would have just ended
05:24:40.060
up just like her and yeah sure but i mean surely you understand that most parents don't do that they're
05:24:47.020
not they they love their children they definitely don't let them move out of the house when they're 16 years
05:24:51.740
old and do all this right i mean yeah you're i in a in a perfect world you're absolutely right
05:24:56.940
but when i mean that's most people most people's parents i think genuinely care about them
05:25:02.860
okay sure you don't think so that's not my that's not been my personal experience so i can't say for
05:25:09.340
everybody else i know a lot of other people who've had similar experiences to mine where their parents
05:25:13.740
weren't necessarily giving them structure and rules and kind of guidelines in life so everyone's journey is
05:25:20.380
different you know yeah i mean i agree with that and i was being a little bit more sarcastic
05:25:24.780
not necessarily you know yeah if you're if but if you're um if you're raising a two-parent household
05:25:31.100
generally speaking the outcomes are the things that you might consider good outcomes like you would
05:25:35.740
higher education more stability um you know less promiscuity things like this uh those are generally
05:25:43.020
considered to be decent outcomes i would say then they tend to go up astronomically if you have two
05:25:48.460
parents in the household for the entirety of the child being in the household so i mean it seems
05:25:53.100
like that's a an optimal way to go right i would say it's also nurture versus nature because your
05:25:59.180
environment and where you live and where you grow up also have a huge impact on that i i've i've found
05:26:05.340
in my personal experience that a lot of people from like bigger cities and like new york i'm from new
05:26:11.740
york originally people more in the city are going to have a completely different type of lifestyle than
05:26:17.020
someone who grows up in montana or colorado even i feel like more of the core like traditional
05:26:22.780
values are still in the midwest people attribute a lot more of that in the middle as a i think there's
05:26:29.180
a lot more lawlessness even in those liberal progressive cities um having a two-parent household
05:26:35.820
still is going to lead to what are generally considered outcomes for children i didn't i didn't
05:26:40.220
have the benefit of having that i mean i always grew up in a one yeah i understand you didn't but
05:26:45.420
why would you prescribe to others not to listen to their parents if their outcomes seem to be so
05:26:49.900
much better if they do i was i was around i mean she's a comedian i'm a comedian i'm a stand-up comic
05:26:54.300
so okay so you said you were a sex addict i'd like to get that's why women shouldn't be comedians
05:26:59.900
no i'm kidding i'm joking that's all right i like you andrew you're all right i'm a pretty i'm a likable
05:27:06.620
guy so you said you were a sex addict i'd like a little more scope on that so uh when you what does that
05:27:15.180
look like for you a sex addict was someone who was reckless in in promiscuity you know what i mean
05:27:22.140
like i sleep with the first person who was into me if i was into them obviously like i had my choice
05:27:27.820
in who i wanted to sleep with or to even engage in any kind of sexual activity because body count
05:27:33.100
doesn't necessarily mean penetration for all of them obviously but um with that being said i would i would
05:27:39.820
use sex as my coping mechanism if i was sad if i was depressed if i was angry if i was happy sex was
05:27:46.700
my go-to thing to release that to in height to heighten that like if i had a good show or something
05:27:53.100
i'm gonna go fuck somebody because it was a good show if i was depressed about a show i'd go fuck
05:27:57.100
somebody to make myself feel better that's what that looks so let's say in a day what's the most
05:28:03.740
amount of people you had sex with in a day that's a dirty that's a dirty dirty question um i don't
05:28:11.340
know a couple maybe two three what about in like a week what's the most in a week oh man i don't know
05:28:19.740
if i if i remember that this was way back in like 2002 2003 give us a range um in a week i don't know
05:28:27.500
could be anywhere between five and ten in a week five and ten okay what about in a month
05:28:34.940
well if we're if we're taking if we're taking um the most in a month the most in a month
05:28:42.860
maybe 15. okay in a month all right i was just trying to get a scope or a sense of
05:28:48.380
the uh extent of the sex addiction you said that uh if you're a woman under the age of 33 chances are
05:28:56.780
you will think i'm a monster i can't stand the hypocrisy that defined a lot of women
05:29:00.940
under the age 25 they want the world on the silver platter but bring absolutely nothing to the
05:29:05.500
table ask any woman under 25 what she wants in life or from a man and you will find yourself a
05:29:10.460
silent woman your words yeah absolutely my words and i stand right by them because if you ask a lot
05:29:16.860
of women under the age of 20 what do you want out of life they're gonna be deer in headlights
05:29:22.140
and and and it's i i'm no different i was the same i didn't know i didn't know what i wanted out of
05:29:30.300
life i didn't know what i wanted out of a life partner i didn't know what i wanted out of my career
05:29:34.860
i wasn't i was unsure of these things because i wasn't fully developed most of us are not fully
05:29:40.060
developed until after 25 26 we haven't figured out yet you said that you're tired of women who have a
05:29:45.820
victim mentality and white women tears yes what do you mean by white women tears white women tears
05:29:52.220
the only reason why i use that is because that's synonymous with what the verbiage online and what
05:29:56.860
young people are using white women tears being women who victimize themselves over nothing example
05:30:02.380
the girl who cried that's white women tears she's in there crying because you asked her a
05:30:07.820
fucking quiet you asked her a simple question define misogyny and she was just like
05:30:15.660
like she was attacked she's the main victim yeah she acted she straight up acted like ryan
05:30:21.020
sexually assaulted her say it it's how you said it that's what matters repeat that i said she acted
05:30:27.980
as if you sexually assaulted her that's that's the look and the fear in her eyes in that that 10 second
05:30:34.940
clip that i watched that's the look that she if you had given her the opportunity to go to the
05:30:39.500
cops to report yeah she probably would have you know and said he made me feel unsafe i didn't feel
05:30:44.780
safe around him because he asked me a question speaking of this i've actually never revealed this on the
05:30:50.300
show you should have seen the text messages she sent me afterwards oh i want to oh my you mean dms why
05:30:59.020
did she why did you give her your number oh i mean it was uh like you know the messages okay like
05:31:04.300
we do uh through instagram and got it but yeah no she sent messages after the show like nick actually
05:31:10.220
i think i showed them to nick i showed them to maddie and she was being ridiculous did they sound like
05:31:14.860
this you attacked me you made me feel uncomfortable and you humiliated me and you made me feel like
05:31:22.380
i wasn't important and i and my opinion doesn't matter yes he you're right those are usually my dms
05:31:29.020
not not brian but yeah she she was uh that's great yeah she i'm trying to she wanted us to take the
05:31:41.180
video down but then she also demanded well okay that's why women do uh so anyways you said you're
05:31:48.620
completely against marriage before 30 and procreation in general i'm sure andrew has some thoughts on this
05:31:54.380
although just for the sake of time we can't linger too long but so you're against marriage
05:31:58.700
before 30 right and you're against procreation so having kids i am and i would say that's more
05:32:06.220
that opinion is more reserved for this generation for the new generation or like you know the
05:32:12.140
zillennials or whatever you want to call gen gen z um and the only reason why i say that is because
05:32:18.460
are you okay i'm okay you're okay i got like tanya harding oh okay i'm good yeah all right um
05:32:25.820
you okay you sure yeah thank you i i i don't i don't like where we're headed as a society with with
05:32:36.220
all this like the the best word i can use is the snowflake mentality like comedy is gone you know we
05:32:44.540
can't be funny anymore comedians have a hard time being able to get up on stage and make fun of
05:32:49.660
shit that everyone can relate to without the fear of being canceled resorted to those like
05:32:54.220
exactly deprecation jokes because you're only allowed to talk about like don't you think that
05:32:59.340
a lot of that is because female comedians only know how to talk about their vagina and that's it
05:33:04.300
i mean i do have a problem with that but i'm not one i mean that's like that's like 99 of female
05:33:09.740
comedians all they do that's not on stage and talk about their vagina no it's fair they're
05:33:14.220
they're pretty bad they're pretty not funny and they pretty much talk exclusively about
05:33:18.860
their vagina it's very very odd it's a very odd phenomenon i actually didn't believe that until
05:33:23.740
i went through netflix and started watching female comedians i was like really that's all they talk
05:33:27.980
about all right well i you haven't heard any of my stuff so you know to be fair yeah yeah yeah sure
05:33:34.380
but that's fair i mean yeah you're not wrong there are a lot of women who get up on stage and all
05:33:39.740
they talk about is sex and you know how they get men to fuck them and whatnot it's because that's all
05:33:45.260
they can relate to that's all they that's how a lot of them are relating to as far as what they
05:33:49.580
think is funny or what they find yeah but they also need to the entire comedy industry what's that
05:33:54.620
all these female comics went through and me to the entire industry they meet to everybody
05:33:59.660
i mean so i mean comedians how in the hell did louis ck get canceled they did they went through and me to
05:34:06.140
the whole comic industry there was there was a bunch of female comics who were going around going
05:34:10.780
oh i was sexually harassed by this guy and this dude jerked off in front of me after i consented
05:34:15.740
but blah blah blah blah blah right that's after i consented that's the asked them that's the
05:34:20.460
shit that's the shit that bothers me and that that goes back to what i was talking about the victim
05:34:24.700
mentality how are you so women ruin comedy is what i'm saying they ruined it they're the tone policers
05:34:29.980
they're the ones who get offended they're the ones who are always whining about everything they're
05:34:33.260
always crying it's only the women they can't take a joke nothing's ever funny everyone's always a
05:34:38.380
victim yeah thank you that broad statements saying men do this and women do that it's just like
05:34:43.020
diversity i love bill burr yeah diversity see what i mean that's the whole point right the whole point
05:34:49.500
of why it is that women get so offended you can't even have a conversation about general topics with
05:34:55.980
them no it's about diversity it's about inclusion it's about us being friends and holding
05:35:00.700
fucking hands and saying kumbaya it's not about any of that that's like jokes are supposed to be
05:35:05.020
funny because they're a reflection of the truth of reality of society that's what makes them
05:35:09.180
hilarious women destroyed all of that they destroyed it sick of time i've got to move things on uh going
05:35:15.740
to my notes here for bobby you uh okay you've been doing of for four years part-time cam girl gaming
05:35:22.140
streamer for two former traveling stripper from when you were 18 to 2020 uh you are in an open
05:35:31.740
relationship now for three years on twitter are you you claim to be married well you see i'm like you
05:35:41.420
where i don't want to like get legally married but in my heart i'm married and like that's just me i don't
05:35:47.820
want like because i'm not religious and i'm also not into the government being in my shit like you
05:35:53.500
know so i i say i'm married because i have so much faith in my relationship and i think that it will
05:36:00.940
last forever so i might as well just go ahead and start saying that he's my husband is it a common law
05:36:06.540
marriage uh well we've only we lived together we moved in immediately um and things have been good like
05:36:15.340
we literally hardly ever have any kind of fights and when we do we have good well how long let's let
05:36:22.460
me try again that's a different way how long have you been with this guy only three years that's what
05:36:26.380
he said not so not common law because i think that's seven it depends on where you're at i don't know
05:36:31.180
together i think it's different in every different state so i have no idea yeah you said that you don't
05:36:36.700
identify actually do we show that i don't think andrew's here he would very much andrew would very much
05:36:43.100
like to know the status of the armpit hair oh it's alive and well but like it's it's not like i
05:36:51.500
always have armpit hair i do shave sometimes just like you know down there i grew a bit differently
05:36:55.980
can you show andrew there's a little bit of uh toilet paper particles from me like wiping nice
05:37:02.060
like sweat in the bathroom nice and uh that's your thing you have the there's a couple photos on your
05:37:08.700
instagram you got the armpit hair i thought andrew should know i thought just so he has a better
05:37:14.220
understanding of the dynamics going on here uh there it is what's the dynamic what is that armpit
05:37:20.860
hair well it's kind of well you know like uh you got the armpit hair and the blue hair we might
05:37:25.820
or purple hair whatever color it is you know we might draw some conclusions maybe perhaps you're one
05:37:29.900
of the free bleeders you know what i mean like we it there's kind of a stereotype that goes with the
05:37:35.900
women who have the colored hair and armpit hair that's kind of raging raging feminist
05:37:41.580
i absolutely love she smells like patchouli she loves me i don't smell like patchouli don't you ever
05:37:47.420
say that about me not since i was like 20 okay but i used to love patchouli now you do say you don't
05:37:56.220
identify as a feminist you do believe but you do believe in having equal rights you have no real
05:38:01.420
issue with patriarchy or more traditional roles men are supposed to lead and protect what you
05:38:06.700
dislike is misogyny sexism and the who is more oppressed or who is the victim pissing contest
05:38:12.220
it's comparing apples to oranges well i'll play that game men are more oppressed than women but
05:38:17.500
i don't really feel inclined to go into it but just throwing that out there anyways argument but i
05:38:23.420
you know i will go into it if you want but well if maybe later let me get through the notes i've you
05:38:29.260
have a really bad date experience uh for your first traditional dinner date oh wait you don't
05:38:35.260
want to go there okay uh uh okay you said you didn't want to go there in the notes so we won't go there
05:38:41.660
you don't think gender roles and patriarchal relationships are for everyone there's definitely
05:38:45.740
more submissive and emotional men more dominant grounded women who are ideal for those men those
05:38:50.700
households tend to be more matriarchal doesn't make it any less balanced it's just different from what
05:38:55.340
most people are used to take the parents from the dancing for the devil documentary for i it's a
05:39:01.500
new documentary about like yeah i saw a little bit of that um the father is very emotional not
05:39:06.300
very dominant mother is very sharp and intense and dominant but they seem very healthy and happy
05:39:10.780
together and raised very intelligent successful kids their kids are thriving i mean one of them
05:39:15.260
might be in a cult but like a lot of people can be in a cult and sometimes it's a fake cult because
05:39:21.340
it gets them money like okay i was in a fake cult before because it was financially beneficial to
05:39:27.100
the community but you were in a fake cult i only watched the yeah i only watched the first episode
05:39:32.860
of that so i don't know it may you were you were you were in a cult a fake one what does that mean
05:39:37.980
what's a fake cult in hawaii i um i just went to hawaii started walking down the road i had like no
05:39:46.140
knowledge and i come across a i come across like a hippie commune like a hippie commune and they're
05:39:55.020
like cool with nudity and stuff i'm sorry and the guy who owns it his name is actually jesus it's not
05:40:02.300
actually jesus it's eugene but we call him jesus and we had you know we kind of like put on a show for
05:40:08.620
our people that come to like visit the commune and try to make it seem like super weird just because
05:40:15.420
it's fun and because it got to manipulate people to to join yeah like the discovery channel and
05:40:20.780
shit like came out and would all right check it out just because they thought it was the discovery
05:40:26.300
channel came out to check out your larping cult yeah we basically were larping as a cult so yeah
05:40:33.900
i mean uh in your other in your other notes you said bowing is playful and kinky as long as the
05:40:39.020
context is but if there's a bad bad power dynamic and expectation that she's actually your property slave
05:40:45.420
no uh so obviously you have some objections to my uh preference for wanting a woman to bow
05:40:52.380
depends on the context that's what what's the what's the context what's the context for you
05:40:56.380
because i don't know i just it's cool i guess yeah yeah i would bow and i mean as long as it's like
05:41:03.580
playful and kinky like i said i think it's fun and i would say that's that's my frame for it it's just a
05:41:10.940
playful endearing it doesn't yeah it doesn't mean that much i don't i don't think it means that much
05:41:17.180
what means more is how you treat her and if you really do see her as like someone who's like really
05:41:24.460
below you who's your slave or your kind of like what your friend kind of like what your friend did
05:41:30.380
to both of us did it oh both of you did it he was sending he asked us to and yeah i only did it
05:41:36.380
once i was like the same for me really honestly and so like you made him like do chores for you
05:41:41.500
work for you for free i couldn't even get him to do that because like i'm i'm just not that dumb
05:41:46.620
can i can i couldn't even ask like he never paid me because i didn't ask yeah but i never got
05:41:50.700
can i tell them what you made him do yeah go ahead tell us do it do it she like walked him through the
05:41:56.140
mall and made him drink his own come out of a cup huh wait in the mall yeah i thought that was more
05:42:00.860
fun wow wait that's fine wait wait hold on you see that now let me actually make it let me actually
05:42:07.020
make a criticism here while you two were consenting to that all the other people in the mall were not
05:42:13.100
consenting though yeah they didn't know what it was yeah but you walked him through the mall so
05:42:18.620
you're doing some like bdsm shit publicly those people are not it's these people who like do that
05:42:24.700
dog shit like the walking the dogs in public there's a weird like the people in public are not
05:42:30.540
consenting to that shit yeah let me clarify i don't actually and i think the bdsm that i can i think
05:42:35.980
the bdsm community looks down on people that do that shit in public yeah they do because it's not
05:42:42.220
consent right because these people in public don't want to see that you reiterate that this
05:42:46.780
was can we just clarify real quick i just want to make sure that i heard that right you made a guy
05:42:54.460
walk through a mall and drink his sperm yeah and then i also made him uh try on some panties and then
05:43:01.020
go to the checkout and buy his own panties and just to be clear you have an issue with me wanting a
05:43:05.260
woman to bow yeah when we're talking about the slavery morality of the slavery and ownership of
05:43:11.100
the person that's really the problematic part these girls i agree i totally agree and i was dumb of me
05:43:17.900
to do that i literally only did it once that's fine you know it's not like somebody once just one
05:43:25.820
time there's no big deal it was actually funny we had that you might have traumatized a bunch of
05:43:30.860
children you know that right uh well they didn't like they really didn't see it they didn't know
05:43:36.460
they didn't see a guy crawling on the floor no no that's different i was the one crawling in that
05:43:40.380
other scenario but that was a different person that i was with doing the leash thing different
05:43:45.180
do you have any do you actually regret doing it to him do i regret doing it too i mean i didn't
05:43:50.540
necessarily like it's not my kink but i don't kink shame i'll try most things once if it sounds
05:43:57.980
interesting and i was like he wanted you to do that yes he approached both of us with this
05:44:02.940
proposition for me he cleaned my house and chastity and stuff and she made him so they both were involved
05:44:09.100
in uh essentially like this guy was a slave to them basically he'd be getting off to this
05:44:15.660
there was no he loved it yeah like he proposed the idea are you guys into like cleave cleveland steamers
05:44:22.060
and stuff what is that okay i mean isn't that basically taking advantage of somebody who's clearly
05:44:27.420
mentally ill i mean he's oh was he mentally ill i mean he's coherent come on let's not kid ourselves
05:44:39.500
um i don't know he's pretty normal actually i think he agrees with most of your takes really
05:44:44.780
just well he believes like he wouldn't agree with any of our takes i promise he does no guy well if he
05:44:51.340
does then the thing is is that he's larping what's the real him i think both things the guy who agrees
05:44:57.100
with christian conservatism or the guy who walks through a mall drinking his own sperm which which
05:45:01.500
is the real guy he's not religious he just holds a lot of i guess religious principles like he thinks
05:45:06.700
traditional gender roles are good he thinks it's okay to date much younger women he thinks he thinks
05:45:11.420
true what what i guess not for himself what of the dynamic that you
05:45:16.780
explained earlier has anything to do with traditional you can support it for society but
05:45:22.780
not for yourself you know i mean you don't think that a guy who requests that you do that is
05:45:29.100
mentally ill you don't think i mean he's definitely ill throat but like he's a functional member of
05:45:33.100
society for the most part like i've definitely seen more throat people bad about it either
05:45:40.060
it's interesting the women the women object to the bow thing but like they they would absolutely
05:45:46.620
like we've had girls who come on the show who are who do finndom uh who's basically financial
05:45:52.060
abuse and um they basically bankrupt men but somehow i'm the bad guy because i want a woman to bow
05:45:59.980
no i don't think she was saying it was bad she even said she'd do it she's just saying as long as you
05:46:03.980
don't really view them as like less than human and beneath you view them as a property that is less than
05:46:11.500
you or like a slave do you want a submissive woman or do you want a brat in what context i do not like
05:46:17.900
brats at all i don't believe you what's i like to argue a lot well a brat is like trust me they're
05:46:24.140
like submissive but they're gonna fight back a little bit and like make you yeah it's like a sub thing of
05:46:30.860
bdsm yeah so you don't mean like in the commons if you call a you know somebody a brat means you're
05:46:36.060
you're acting spoiled rotten you know something like that so it doesn't mean that it's some other
05:46:41.820
kink some other kink bullshit sort of i mean okay yeah it's kink bullshit okay but they act
05:46:48.620
that way to answer your question i don't want to brad i don't you just want like a fully submissive
05:46:53.660
fully fully submissive yeah what what camps ethan what are you talking about i mean
05:46:59.580
i'll read this uh i'll read it while it's up ethan knight much love actually maddie can you read it
05:47:05.980
much love and appreciation to the good intentions of your podcast brian and andrew effing wilson who is
05:47:11.500
always the best on the show some of these women though would not have survived the camps thank you
05:47:17.180
ethan can you hide it and then read this one number one rule to kink you don't expose non-consenting
05:47:23.180
people to kink stop backpedaling with reasons why it's not so bad you basically essayed everyone
05:47:29.340
who was around they didn't know doesn't excuse right mine was in private just by the way mine was at
05:47:34.060
my house okay that's fine uh ethan thank you for that super chat man really appreciate it uh i think
05:47:39.180
that's my first time seeing you uh sending a super so appreciate your patronage man there's rules
05:47:43.900
the king like what there's rules the name of degeneracy is this i don't do this stuff
05:47:50.060
anymore figure this out i was never into you have consent forms for yes you were there's a
05:47:54.220
there's a book what's wrong with you andrew like you didn't know there's a book me to do that
05:47:58.140
shit there's a book okay so you had a man in the chase 101 yeah like i experimented with it
05:48:03.900
it's in the college thesis but like we weren't hooking up or anything and i would never be a
05:48:07.180
degenerate scumbag 101 uh anyways uh let's see you said how could uh wait hold on there's an honors course
05:48:17.820
two say is you know a lot of men like to it's mostly men who get those like plugs that are
05:48:24.300
like remote controlled and like wear them around in stores and stuff girls don't do that like as
05:48:30.220
much as men they're really into like wearing butt plugs in public and stuff i well that's what my
05:48:35.820
subs like tell me you know yeah they're degenerate they're fucking degenerate a lot of them are also
05:48:42.220
married i live in west hollywood she's not married too they got a beard yeah their wives are just so
05:48:47.660
high their wife is a beard their wife is a beard those guys are probably they're probably they're
05:48:53.820
hanging out west hollywood they're hanging out i personally don't judge anyone's kink me neither but
05:48:58.700
i'm not i don't walk them through walls and make them wear panties and drink sperm i'm sure you don't
05:49:05.820
judge anybody's kink yeah that would be a pretty precarious branch to stand on would you
05:49:12.940
did he pay you no i didn't ever ask for money that's the thing because i couldn't
05:49:17.020
ask him for anything like to because i'm also very subby i don't want to
05:49:21.740
yeah it's hard for me to even ask my subs whenever i like need money i'm just like so
05:49:27.820
sort of okay you said you've been the main provider in all your relationships it's not
05:49:32.780
a preference i've just yet to connect with anyone who makes good money not a problem but unfortunately
05:49:38.140
i've been used a lot so now i have this fear of ulterior motives much like men do with women my
05:49:42.940
recent ex fiancee kinda had you paying student loans truck payments truck and motorcycle mods regular and
05:49:51.100
wilderness emt courses firefighter training general credit card debt etc and yeah he also runs a scam
05:50:01.100
on the internet under a fake name he's literally a serial scammer so you're sugar mama boy you picked
05:50:07.180
you picked the good one hey this was like the first guy that i dated who he was really just good at
05:50:13.420
faking he had this mask but you know because i have a very degenerate past he was the first good guy
05:50:19.820
the one that i thought like i was doing the right thing like my parents would approve of this come
05:50:24.380
to find out after where they were like i always got a bad vibe about him but i was naive i was like oh
05:50:29.580
this is see why you're supposed to listen to your parents do you see why you're supposed to tell me
05:50:33.980
until after because they that's why they didn't want to give but they didn't give her the information
05:50:38.620
until after she broke up with them so it's a moot point they should have though they should have but you
05:50:43.340
would have told her to ignore it you would have said ignore the advice so yeah so that's on you
05:50:48.780
how else way how else are you going to become a good human being until you learn how to not be
05:50:54.780
your ethics your morals and even your mannerisms from your parents your your genetic copy essentially
05:51:01.020
of your mom and your dad so the nature that they are is probably going to at least trickle down to you
05:51:06.140
somewhat so if they have good ethics or good morals or they're pillars of the community or things like
05:51:11.260
that i would think that you would want kids to listen to them that seems wise like if they were
05:51:17.260
if they're successful at least in such to some degree now i would judge success as being something
05:51:21.820
as basic as um you know they go to work every day and they uh they get by and but they love you that
05:51:27.500
seems like success to me that seems like uh it's something that most people can at least emulate to a
05:51:32.380
degree if i'm gonna play the devil's advocate though if i were gonna listen or if most people listen to
05:51:37.820
their parents you wouldn't see a lot of the comedians who are comedians be comedians or actors
05:51:42.860
be actors because those are frivolous jobs you know so there's things like that yeah but this isn't a
05:51:48.540
1980s movie come on where they're like right where they're like no you you know i don't want i want you
05:51:55.900
to go to a business school instead of an art school that's like that was all phony baloney shit anyway
05:52:01.260
that was all deconstructing society in the 80s anyway due to punk rock culture most of the time
05:52:07.500
if you want to go to a good art school your parents aren't like no that's not that's just not really
05:52:12.540
how it works in reality honestly they might give you advice to the contrary meatball donated 200
05:52:19.340
yikes stay away from bum's purple abuela you can't keep saying people should not listen to parents when
05:52:26.540
you are exhibit a as to why people should i'm not going to dispute that but i'm not an abuela stupid
05:52:34.220
what's a well abuela is grandma i'm not a grandma oh okay oh he was like oh she doesn't even know
05:52:40.140
oh she called you a dumb fuck i did shots fired um name ten books going back to you
05:52:48.860
uh so this guy who you paid all this i'm a christian conservative we can't read
05:52:52.780
uh meanwhile he shamed you for how you made money and he ended up cheating on you with a nurse
05:53:01.180
and got the clap oh yes sir yes sir this is true well i was stripping back then and then
05:53:09.340
after the thing that i can't mention i started doing only fans and yeah he did not like that i was a
05:53:17.420
stripper but he benefited from it and he used the fact that it was a degenerate thing and like
05:53:24.700
he didn't like it and i'm just a strumpet to be like manipulating me to feel like she watches the
05:53:30.940
show she likes the show he manipulated me with you know just shaming me for what i do into making up for
05:53:39.900
it by giving him all my money and i literally left that relationship with nothing i mean like
05:53:45.500
like i feel like i kind of i side with you on this one because like he can't be all
05:53:52.300
bitching about your job while you're paying for all his that part like he needs to like pay for his
05:53:58.460
shit or like and then he i'm gonna have to take a disagreement with brian on this one so i'm like
05:54:05.340
okay i think he can i think that even if uh he's not working and you're supporting him he can still
05:54:13.500
bitch if you're a sex worker i think that that's fine like i don't i don't actually have any
05:54:17.500
objection to that i mean he can just well he shouldn't well my my view is he just shouldn't
05:54:21.820
have dated her i mean yeah if he didn't like it like if if i'm assuming from it until he didn't
05:54:26.780
need me like he watched the julio roberts movie okay pretty woman he thought he could turn him out
05:54:32.380
right so he bitched about it a little bit that seems reasonable right seems reasonable like why
05:54:38.460
can't he why can't you why can't you say you know i still would like you to not do that well it wasn't
05:54:43.900
even a moral thing because he was also very promiscuous um like while you were while you guys were
05:54:52.060
together he was cheating but we had an open relationship yeah but you didn't know he was
05:54:56.140
cheating right this was like probably the most open relationship he had no reason to cheat
05:55:00.300
she literally shared him all the time you didn't know he was cheating right um i had a i had a
05:55:08.220
suspicion because there were some things that were like little signs and you know but you didn't but
05:55:13.820
you didn't know and if you knew he was cheating you would have ended the convo or that not the convo
05:55:18.380
the relationship so you can't say well he was promiscuous he didn't know he was but there was no
05:55:24.060
like you know because we're supposed to talk to each other and be like let them know about our
05:55:28.940
partners like if i had a partner he knew about him if i was even just in a talking stage like
05:55:33.740
talking on tinder with somebody i would be like hey i met this new guy who i kind of vibe with
05:55:37.900
but he just did not tell me about this particular one at all and really denied it but i knew that
05:55:44.300
there was something going on because is this one of those weird things where you like okay hang on i
05:55:50.700
gotta ask this is one of those weird things where you're like we have the ground rules where as long
05:55:55.500
as we just tell each other who we're boning then it's okay it's one of those things but oh you
05:55:59.820
didn't tell me so you cheated is it one of those yeah it's about communication and honesty and like
05:56:05.900
obviously if there were somebody that we didn't feel comfortable with and we brought that up we would
05:56:13.820
but this is why you're a sex worker right why why this relationship or this whole thing i've been a sex
05:56:20.300
worker since i was 19. but that's that's that's where the hypocrisy comes in it's like you can't
05:56:26.620
really expect him to just be monogamous if you're a sex worker well we weren't monogamous that's the
05:56:33.820
thing is that's another reason why like that he used to basically but that includes telling you
05:56:41.500
bad about everything and like been to his every need and pay for everything he wanted and i think
05:56:46.860
your ex was a bitch and then you finally figured that out and i didn't left his ass i didn't leave
05:56:52.380
him because of the cheating either i didn't leave him because of the cheating because i don't give a
05:56:56.780
fuck i didn't give a shit she doesn't give a fuck i really don't care about the cheating i just thought
05:57:02.460
it was funny to bring up because she was a nurse and gave him and i chlamydia oh you got the clap too
05:57:08.380
well i mean i was sucking my boyfriend so unfortunately yeah i'm really happy you're
05:57:13.500
with this one good now thank you because he gave you he gave you the clap well we were because you
05:57:22.540
guys were honestly that's the only time i've ever had an std so wow oh no i just many years
05:57:31.660
is that god's way of telling you stop doing that do you think so maybe god being like you
05:57:38.540
know stop just stop just stop you can get sick at the grocery store because someone sneezes on you
05:57:43.900
like stop going to the grocery store like all you have to do is go get a little shot and or take you
05:57:49.500
know you get an hpv vaccine and then you're good like is that the case with hiv huh well i'm not
05:57:56.460
not having that's why i made gary good touch oh i'll continue on with my notes here andrew i don't
05:58:03.500
know if you saw this i just wanted to bring andrew's attention to this nick could you show up
05:58:07.660
the articles about the bear killing andrew andrew's gonna love this one not love you're talking about
05:58:14.380
the uh attacks have been happening in california yeah the woman the first ever black bear fatality
05:58:21.420
in california one was killed it's kind of ironic and uh it's like the timing with with all the
05:58:27.980
women picking a bear timing is impeccable stupid now uh going on to more notes from you you said
05:58:33.340
don't hold body count against people even though i've been promiscuous in my past i've become very
05:58:38.380
choosy of who i'm romantic with now in fact i'd argue that my experience has made me even more secure
05:58:43.820
in my current relationship because i know what i want and don't want well couldn't you know what you
05:58:49.580
want and don't want in a relationship without fucking hmm what huh well like you mean sexually
05:58:59.100
or because i mean that's the do you mean sexual i'm still confused about this question well you said
05:59:06.460
in fact because okay you said don't hold body count against people what i said there i think
05:59:11.580
you're misunderstanding was that i've had a lot of well sexually as well but like just with from
05:59:19.180
person to person their traits their characteristics and all that stuff and like how we connect and
05:59:26.060
just values as well like okay but so you said you'd argue that your experience has made me even more
05:59:31.420
secure in my current relationship because i know what i want and don't want now you've become very
05:59:36.060
choosy of who i'm romantic with now so you said you've had sex between like 50 and 100 people
05:59:41.660
couldn't you like this experience you garnered in terms of what you want and don't want of all the
05:59:46.540
people you've had sex with wouldn't you have gotten the same experience even if you hadn't had
05:59:52.780
sex with them no well i'm not talking about sexual experience i mean am i maybe i'm misunderstanding
05:59:59.020
what you mean by experience and what you want and don't want so what he's asking the simplified
06:00:06.700
version he's just saying thank you couldn't you have gained the same exact experience experiences
06:00:10.780
with these people absent having sex with them why is the sexy important part of these experiences
06:00:17.660
well because it's i mean in a relationship it's usually well there's a number of things that you
06:00:23.340
would um go outside of a relationship for besides sex um so no it isn't just sex it's also a lot of
06:00:32.140
other things like the way they treat you the way you communicate and all the things but i was doing
06:00:37.660
those things with the other partners that i've had in my life it wasn't just sex so i learned a lot
06:00:43.660
about myself i learned a lot about people and how they treat me and i don't know why it's not reading
06:00:49.020
purple when you ran to the bathroom and started throwing up is it because you smelled your own
06:00:53.260
rancid pits is that why the tp chris jenner did the blank try up before or after the surgeries roasts
06:00:59.180
i actually inhaled some water name 10 books nicolo thank you nickelodeon appreciate it oh by the way
06:01:05.900
tts is down says forgot to mention we've lowered it to 69 uh if any of you want to get one in before
06:01:11.260
we wrap up the show uh speaking of which let me pull this up anonymous donated 100 dollars
06:01:19.180
number one rule to kink you don't expose all the consenting people we already read this okay my bad
06:01:24.700
my bad uh all right let's see the last notes here we have you had a tweet and you said tbh i'm a cuck so
06:01:33.980
i like when my man gets pussy oh wow so you're a cuck queen you're a cuck queen only if it's under the
06:01:40.780
right communication beforehand and even when not you know it can still be kind of hot it just depends on
06:01:50.460
like a lot of different variables and if you know it feels but wait so if the girl like for example
06:01:58.780
the girl's hotter than you and he still tells you but he has like a stronger sexual connection with her
06:02:04.460
are you upset are you gonna get it's the girl's hotter and he has a stronger sexual connection
06:02:08.860
yeah um yeah of course it's gonna be a little but why he talks to you but that's but he told you about it
06:02:15.740
he he gave you he's like hey honey i want to fuck this hotter chick i i like her pussy better than
06:02:21.820
yours is that okay um sure all right you can't a female can't be a cuckold only men can be cuckolds
06:02:36.780
yeah i know that's just but it's that's meaningless right the whole purpose behind the term cuck is that
06:02:43.660
you could unwittingly be raising the offspring that is not yours that's true well for women the
06:02:49.820
offspring's always going to be theirs you're not unwittingly ever going to be raising offspring which
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is not theirs unwittingly that can't so there's just there is no female cuck that's just nonsense
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talk right so then what is it is it just a cuck no what is her situation she's a boy oh well any guy
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who's with her is so if if a guy is sharing her he's a cuck so right she's a boy yeah she's just uh
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you know what you would call a i guess a strumpet right that's that's what you would yeah he would
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just call it call it that essentially oops uh so hold on we need to do some dating app review nick can
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you pull up the dating app reviews uh what's the tweet can you read it to me people are so stupid
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uh we'll pull it yeah we can do that really quick i don't know one of you posted this yeah
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actually he who does not lick the clit should not get to hit one of you guys tweeted this out
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or like reacted to it it looks like a cool party look at all the punks they went crusty i love it
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so coming on the table is it a deal breaker for guys not willing to uh go down i've had a guy that
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did not want to and yeah there was a lot of other things going on there sure i don't prefer it like
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it's not my favorite it's not my favorite thing so i mean i don't think i'd care that much honestly okay
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i don't care that much i don't really care uh it's a bit of a deal breaker oh that would be a deal
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breaker for me i don't know okay i'm yeah i'm indifferent anonymous donated 69 dollars your
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long-term boyfriend is cheating on you and all his friends know do you expect his friends to tell you
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brian how about name tags on the mic stands to easily identify guests we've had the suggestion
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before it's we're not gonna we're not gonna do that but i appreciate it um yeah if that is a
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scenario i'm supposed to answer i guess um well i think i'm pretty close with their friends they
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might snitch but they might not um it's a strange question yeah i think they'd probably i'd like to
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think that they would his friends tell you the chatter is asking if they should should they snitch
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okay your long-term boyfriend is cheating on you all his friends know you expect his friends to tell
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you for underscore the underscore patriarchy donated 69 dollars question for the panel would you let your
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partner go to the strip club if they go for the wings and music uh okay we'll come here we'll do that
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one then we'll come back to the cheating one so going around the table on this one yeah i don't
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have a problem with him going to strip club we go together
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i don't care i don't care no no comment i wouldn't want him to go without me but i took the last guy
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i dated to the strip club for his first time or was it for the wings and the music uh no no okay yes
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only for the wings and the music the salad bar yeah right oh gosh oh sometimes the food is good
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though my husband wouldn't go so but i wouldn't care honestly i wouldn't care if he went yeah would
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you let him read hustler magazine because they just really like the articles absolutely well that was
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the cover of me of course so he can borrow mine i mean ideally you'd pick a man that doesn't have
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an interest in going regardless you can eat wings somewhere else uh and then long-term boyfriend
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all his friends know do you expect his friends to tell you no no yes it's bro code yeah it's against
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but they do tell us sometimes if they're trying to fuck you yeah they'd be snitching okay all right
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bros before bros before hose okay um they'll tell you if they're trying to smash them next exactly
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wait which one is this is this zoomed out smash smash or pass
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uh i think you got to zoom can you zoom it out and show me please
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yeah or is that the tick tock sound oh yeah that okay well i have it on the next one
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what do you mean but that we need to okay that's fun uh can you read this one alissa just read your
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based i value intellect and communication above all i typically won't engage in small talk but if you
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want to talk space travel psychology philosophy etc i'll probably bite i have kids and i'm open to
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having more um my insta something like clementine oh and my love language is acts of service so if
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you're lazy or don't have your life together we won't vibe and then i said looking for a man in
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tech green eyes trust fund six plus and then i said it's a tick tock reference totally not serious lol
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yeah it's just a funny reference your love language is acts of service yeah my confusion with the act
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with the love languages is does it mean what you want yeah or how you express
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it can be but most of the time it's in reference to what you expect men tend to be physical touch
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or acts of service or actually maybe men are more like physical touch and words of affirmation i think
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um acts of service is where and i just put that because the last guy that i was that i interacted with
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was super lazy and like i take care of two toddlers alone keep a spotless house cook works multiple
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jobs so i'm very driven i cannot carry like i just feel like as a man you're probably like a bum if you
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can sit there and watch someone that you claim to care about struggling and you're not naturally
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inclined to help because i would never watch a man go through it and not you know have the empathy to
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to help him like i would take it upon myself like the vast majority of women i don't i'm not the vast
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majority of women so i can't speak for them but oh wait so you wouldn't what clean up after your
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toddlers yes yeah no no no no no no no like okay like one day um my air conditioner like i needed more
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freon i needed to charge my air conditioner in the car and like i you're not useful to me as a man if
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i'm doing that and taking care of kids and cooking and cleaning like that's something you should be
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doing i feel i support gender roles i'm totally fine keeping a clean house looking hot for you
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bearing babies i don't think every relationship should be like that but i tend to prefer
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that the you know the more biblical type of thing um so like if you don't have a job
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and you're not driven you don't have any goals or aspirations and you're just lazy and you just sit
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around and do nothing that's not attractive to me you didn't have a job
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no not really i can't like disclose too much because then it'll be obvious who i'm talking
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about um so didn't you choose him no no once i realized that he was like that i was like this is
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not going to work out okay the example of why he was lazy is because you can recharge your ac with
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bucky larson donated seventy dollars purple hair girl catching an std is not appealing please stop
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being a strumpet question for the ladies if a man is the provider in a marriage relationship
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is he the prize sure we'll go around the table on this go ahead hell yeah yeah i think so
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yeah i'd say so yeah assuming he's like good to you otherwise as well
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like because you can be a provider and be a piece of shit and then i'm still going to divorce you over
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your head or anything like to do crazy stuff is he the prize that's the question i don't i think we
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could both be the prize but uh was there another tab on the dating one from her or is that the only
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thing the whole lazy guy thing yeah and like you have like my main thing is that you have to be
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intellectually stimulating for me wait so what do you want in a guy i want someone who's intelligent
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and like i don't expect anybody to take care of me but i don't want to have to take care of them
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either okay but mostly i want someone who's like i love to debate and i like somebody to teach me
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things and like i want to i want who i'm around to be better than me so that i want to grow like
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debate with your partner i mean not all the time but yeah yeah that's fun stuff yeah i just love to
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explore not necessarily debate but i like to explore intellectual topics together yeah why why
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even if you don't have a disagreement you can just hold on stop go ahead you said you don't like
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when people debate with you i mean we know it's obvious just saying what
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what the spicy thing that you were gonna say what spicy thing i don't know it's spicy
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tech underscore peach underscore eater donated 69 dollars six feet one inch in tech six figures
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skateboarder i eat peaches on the first date and you are banging oh my god well i don't sleep with
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anybody on a first date but um get tested and if you know you've never have you ever had a one night
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stand yes once have you ever have you ever slept with somebody on a first date but continued seeing
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them yes but this is all prior to becoming a christian too what denomination again i mean i know
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y'all push for this i mean i just i you could say protestant i guess but yeah really i just i just
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like read like i interpret the bible wait so are you waiting until marriage to have sex
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no well so what why hold on i'm not saying that i'm a perfect christian and that i uphold all the
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values but why hold on hold on if the reason you no longer sleep with someone on the first date
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the justification the pretext is you citing to christian values sure but if you look at the
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ultimate hold on wouldn't the ultimate manifestation of that be waiting until marriage sure but if you
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look at the context of marriage within biblical times they weren't like having a court officiate
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a wedding you know what i mean yeah the church did is the church officiating your wedding
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i don't know like i wouldn't actually be opposed to waiting why you shouldn't debate you're bad at
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it so you have a guy who's good you know probably a lot worse at debate honestly
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i try to uphold as many of them as i can but you know i'm not going to be perfect at it there's
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i don't think anybody can pretend to be yeah but perfection is not the point of christianity or
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christian ethics if you're talking about christian ethics though if you're trying to uphold not being
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promiscuous because you think that's a part of divine command then just not sleeping with a guy
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in the first date really doesn't have anything to do with it it's basically skirting the whole point
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of what that divine command is isn't it sure yeah i mean it's not the only reason i don't sleep with
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someone on the first date but i do try that's what you cited to i do try that's what yeah that's what
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you appealed to though was your christian ethics okay fair now it's like okay by the third date
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then we'll sleep together and it's like okay but that kind of defeats the whole point of people
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randomly like i just once we're in a monogamous commitment really i guess that's yeah how long
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does that typically take i mean it can vary months it can vary like you're really telling me that
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the last guy you had sex with was it were you guys in a monogamous yeah we agreed from the very
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beginning that if we sleep with other people we're gonna tell each other big smoke donated 69
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dollars mommy milkers big big mommy milkers big big huge milkers and huge big milkies why are you
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covering up now so the last question for you the last guy that you had sex with how quickly did you
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sleep with them i think like the second or third time yeah but we talked for a while before okay like
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he actually was asking me out multiple times before i finally went out with him yeah and we
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agreed like immediately like i'm not going to sleep with you if you're sleeping with other people if you
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decide to that's fine just clue me in because i don't want to catch fucking a cd
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i just like what actual christian ethics do you adhere to i i'm definitely very forgiving um i have
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forgiven my husband for a lot of things um i try not to like i don't feel like it's my place to judge
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anybody i yeah but i try to watch my tongue ethics have nothing to do with not judging people
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judge not that you might not be judged or like you know watch that that would just that would
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just be a standardization the log out of your eye before you point out yeah yeah but don't you
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understand that that's a standardization so that's that's that's actually giving a standard for which
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to judge okay saying okay yeah that's what it's doing is giving a standard for which but it also
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talks about like you know like you're not going to sit here and judge somebody for the
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shit that you're doing yeah why couldn't you it because it says worry about the log in your
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own eye before you try to point out the splinter and someone else just so you understand appeal to
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hypocrisy if you're going to argue something one of the weakest forms of argumentation to say it's
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because it's it's actually fallacious it's called an appeal to hypocrisy so just pointing out well let's
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assume for a second that a serial killer told you that it's bad to kill people he would still be right
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but he would be a hypocrite right so the thing is is um when you're structuring arguments you don't
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want to think about what could or could not be uh hypocritical from the person's angle when you're
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talking about judgment though you use judgment all the time i mean you have to just to get by in life
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you have to use judgment yeah i mean to some degree yeah to some degree so the thing is it's like you
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judge people constantly i mean if you see somebody who looks sinister you probably stay away from them
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right but that's why i specify different ways i'm also doing i'm not going to judge them i'm not
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going to judge someone for things that i'm also doing yeah but i don't understand why that makes
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it better because it's that's the thing i don't get i don't understand how that is the perception of
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the christian that is that if you're a sinner and you're judging other sinners that that somehow makes
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your sin less bad that's what i don't get no i don't think it makes your sin less bad i'm just right
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so then so then why why is that part of this kind of ethical framework that you have of but i don't
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judge because i'm doing the same thing that doesn't seem like it's in the spirit of that handsome
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donated 69 dollars almost to whatever first all these lovely ladies without visible tattoos are piercings
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you don't realize just how beautiful and amazing you look the exception gets a pass from me
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uh okay i'm not sure what that means um he likes that you guys don't have tattoos i i guess okay thank you
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good to know good to know uh let's do the other dating app
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uh this is sky uh okay this is your hinge scroll down
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next let's debate this topic adult circumcision i love that topic uh what just really quick what's
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your position there for or against circumcision for your four circumcision for adult circumcision oh
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adult uh wait so like them deciding for themselves yes gotcha oh so you're against child yes oh okay all
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right next uh okay uh next next you won public okay cool congrats next fake a social cause i care
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about this one's interesting environmental racism environmental racism what is that is like redlining
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it's okay the practice of where um certain minority groups are living in areas that
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and don't have investment from the community in like grocery stores they're like food deserts stuff
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like that so yeah it's always been that way like everywhere it's yeah so that's a cause that i care about
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are there any more nick or is that okay that's my cat well my parents cat that's a sweet little
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proper dating app uh what was the other was there something else we had to do nick
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uh we'll do that really quick oh we'll do that really quick sure
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oh hold on warlord 69 you donated 69 dollars maddie where the heck is my man gus andrew great to
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see you again keep destroying the cat before it happens to others ladies bear or mr yeast the english simp
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i don't care mr yeast i don't know who i don't know who that is mr yeast the english i think he's
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talking about bevo oh yeah i don't know who that is but i'll take him over a bear
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and i'm trying to think what the other thing is that's how we should frame that question from now
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on brian we should say the bear or bevo yeah uh yeah i agree bear bevo um we were gonna do bumble
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the bumble segment really quick but i gotta wait until all the girls are back to do it so
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uh what's up nick they need y'all oh bucker yeah pull up bucker come on
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uh that was really that could be related to the burden component that we're talking about just pull up
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bucker uh this was kind of funny feminists warn young girls against marrying rich muscular football
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stars who love them and take care of all their needs and praise them in speeches
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uh so this is basically like he had this speech me and andrew reacted to it uh saying that
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that uh what i forgot precisely what he said but basically he was saying that women are happiest i think
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as mothers and taking care of the household sort of thing instead of like working some job i think
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that was the that was the the uh they don't have many options after uh college
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hmm so i thought that was funny that was from the babylon b or whatever
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uh once she's back we'll do the bumble segment then we'll probably wrap up the show
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uh i guess we could do a brief roast section i don't know i need to put mod delay on if we're
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gonna do it though so um uh we need more section yeah we need we need a we need a roast section what
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was the thing that you were gonna say and then the tts came in saved by the tts something about
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something that i said how you don't like to debate or something like what was the correct what was the
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own she was like so proud she was so proud i know why i mean it's true you like turn off mics and
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shit when they don't agree with you no somebody when they won't bow someone paid for that someone
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paid for that like five hundred dollars yeah he paid yeah is that is that weird in a relationship to
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not want to debate i think it is actually jordan peterson has a talk on this where he says yeah
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i just want someone to contend with yeah i disagree no if you want to like stay one
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dimensional by all means but i want to know when i'm wrong i want to be able to be one
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dimensional yeah and i don't think it has anything to do with being right or wrong okay well then
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i hate debating i don't i don't want you to be one-dimensional i want you to be three-dimensional
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what what are the three dimensions being a person
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what what are the you mean what do you what are you asking me what are the three dimensions
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they know it's like the three dimensions stood for something or if you were referencing like
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three-dimensional reality no you said you said i don't want to be one-dimensional
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right i was doing a play on words was that is that why like guys maybe are not always funny
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not everybody could be a comedian i mean it is if you understand it if you understand or maybe yeah but
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i mean you have to be seeking that high level intellectualism that you're seeking so much
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i really do no i actually love things like this believe it or not like we all have like holes in
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our awareness nobody knows everything and i think being able to bounce ideas off of people and disagree
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is good for humanity and i think it's something that society yeah i think it's great for humanity
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i just don't think it's great for relationships i don't think that debating
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and so debating is contentious right i don't think the idea you can have an idea behind debate
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where you're just trying to get the truth that's true but debate's also utilized as a weapon it's a
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weapon which you can defend yourself or you can assail other people verbally and inside of a polite
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society that's basically what you're left with that's basically what you're left with right is uh
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it's a form of uh verbal judo let's say i mean i wouldn't that that sounds exhausting in a
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relationship right no for me it's just like if we have differing ideas i just want to discuss
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each stance and like help each other deeper understand one another's perspective and then
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maybe like you change your mind maybe i change mine maybe neither one of us do but then we
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better understand the other person's position and i just i like to really explore ideas that way
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stacy for senate donated sixty nine dollars she doesn't like debate she likes head games and word
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vomit also is there a bra shortage in california where can we donate to help
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all my exes should comment on this thread and i was actually having a conversation with somebody
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about this honey bar debt okay isn't it the case that wait if you wear a bra does it lead to less
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sagging or more sagging more more okay good to know cannot have that not with these perfect
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okay don't please don't do that i'm squeezing out nothing yeah at least i said yiddies
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um but yeah any any final thoughts from any of the panelists we'll do a short row session and then
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we'll wrap up maybe andrew do you have a question i do i do have one i've been kind of patient here my
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notes um if you'll humor me so um let me let me pull it up on my screen i wrote it down earlier
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avenue that i want to pursue i definitely would but i just
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i haven't found anything that i want to do more so is it because it's easy it's definitely not easy
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you don't think being on only hands on only fans is easy no i work literally like all the time
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yeah and it is it's an emotionally laboring job too how's it emotionally i'm literally playing
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therapists for half people that i talk to it's emotional labor too because we're actually like
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brian said providing a girlfriend experience and that is you giving a bit of your if it's so hard
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then why do it yeah it's fake it you're not really being their girlfriend you know jobs are hard you
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have to make money and have a living and like oh then what you're actually saying is that comparison
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other jobs it's as easy but you it's easy money right in comparison to the work that is a
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common misconception so you mean getting naked on a camera where it doesn't require any actual real
06:27:52.940
brain power because you're not you're not curing cancer you're not you know building houses you're
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not doing construction you're not healing someone you're not as much brain power as
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being a doctor's a masculine job like you might be being a doctor's a masculine take as much brain
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power as comedy what's that well i'm not just a comedian i'm a writer and a podcaster as well
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and i have a real job and i won't talk about it on the show because i don't need to everybody
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know where i work but i have a real big girl i think it probably is though guys drop a mic on the video
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please i think a comedy probably would be harder than only fans work yeah i think they're both
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how you approach it she really does like a bunch of editing and photo shoot type stuff all my own
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editing all my own everything marketing uh heads up guys we've dropped the tts to 25 we'll do a short
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roast segment uh oh warning i have uh unlimited moderation delay on this so uh last show i didn't
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have to reject any of the roasts but i'm warning you that it is uh again last show i'd let all of
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them go through but if any of them are like tos or like you're insulting anybody's appearance i'm not
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going to play it if you want to roast what somebody said or you know if it's kind of on the more playful
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side that's okay but if you're actually like insulting anybody's appearance or you're doing anything tos or
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or you're being uh egregiously vile in some way i'm not going to play it but like i said i'm pretty
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open with it so if you guys want we're going to do a 25 tts ladies you may want to have a drink for
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this let's go yeah but also andrew speaking of which i do only cans too and uh i'll be done once i
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have money to buy yeah they're out me for donated two hundred dollars great show good to see you
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man still going back in the chat blondie you got potential purple stay away from bums and open
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relationships and the rest of you good luck abuelita yikes thanks for that hey old man marine i probably
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fucked your father then what is that i i'm not confident that's the own you think it is
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uh old man marine i'm very sorry but uh your chat is not appropriate uh
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uh uh i guess we can this one's kind of okay if you if you haven't i guess
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hopper underscore outdoors donated 25 dollars to the soft three in pink do a pit test now on
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the gross chick with the poo story what there's a poo story involved too
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someone threw some six thousand nine hundred and sixty nine blah blah blah sixty nine donated 25
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shares one two and three are prostitutes three is just a former prostitute as she had an only simps page
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pros middle dot team middle dot tootay a person in particular a woman who engages in sex activity for
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payment shout out tz nickelodeon donated 25 dollars yeah but i don't know why you're throwing me shade
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i'll name 10 books when you can name three science slash tech books the demon haunted world by carl
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dimensions cosmos by carl sagan the future of humanity the future of humanity donated 25
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to the blonde girl is it cold in here sweetheart it is now
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because it's the night time and i think it's brick here
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ripped rich and rare donated 25 dollars fat boy andrew needs whatever bra yarl can scrape up he's a bag of
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trash with 10-inch arms and big tits fat has crossed over gender barriers by growing tits
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raven simp donated 25 dollars i don't think raven haired actually likes debating i think she likes
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conflict and men being aggressive notice how today she refused to say i'm wrong
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lol i conceded multiple times did you yeah she did you didn't concede i did yes i did
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she did you did yeah not really well if i like there's some things i'm not going to just bow on
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there's data to back it up multiple rewatching yeah dude do we have a study that you conceded
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grgracy donated 25 dollars quote underscore ladies underscore end quote if a guy treats you badly
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not physically abusive but word on the street is you sort of deserve it is he really the bad guy in
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this scenario no pls help donated 25 dollars hey brian and andrew 29 year old i own my house make
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100 000 a year two kids i work in mental health and was left after six years of marriage dot any
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advice on how to move forward well i'm sure wherever you work you'll get a discount so i wouldn't worry
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uh any advice on how to move forward left after six years of marriage
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gotta get back on the saddle you gotta find a new woman
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is that is that brian's clint eastwood impression i have no idea i don't know what i
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don't know what i was going for collectionette donated 25 dollars alissa i didn't say we would
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have sex first date i would bite them peaches in a lady's room that's all
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six thousand nine hundred and sixty nine blah blah blah 69 donated 25 dollars there is no difference
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between regular pron and your only simps page trying to argue there is is just cope not only are you doing
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prawn but you are also a prostitute renee and e13 donated 25 dollars you hussies need to get your
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shit together let the patriarch fix you who's the patriarch in this situation
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he likes to be tied up i promise you brian's lint roller donated 25 dollars back to low body count
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an example that modern men care is jake paul versus danis jake was bullied for his wife's promiscuous
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past men wouldn't have weaponized this info if they didn't think it mattered jandar donated 25
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maddie is queen and men definitely prefer low body count facts
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goes logan paul i don't think that's a roast i think that's just a
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opinion yeah well they don't have to do this is the pagan donated 25 dollars you can say nice
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shit to the pro-life talk earlier the panel claimed the right and free will for females
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but they don't extend those same rights to the female within the womb this is a great point by the
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way swanson donated 25 dollars saying that o f is harder than being a comedian is ridiculously dumb to
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say thank you video of yourself being naked and telling sweet lies to simps cannot compare to
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trying to make people laugh live thank you reverse card nickelodeon donated 25 dollars would you say
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claiming twitch is commercial free or subs are bugged when they aren't as comparable to enough model using
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ghost writers i get the sarcasm just don't want you to feel left out brian well i actually did turn off
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the pre-roll ads and the uh mid-roll ads on twitch because uh i mean i don't make much on ads on twitch
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anyways and i was like i'd rather like have higher audience retention than just make a couple like
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a hundred bucks a show or whatever from twitch so uh and then the prime thing that's just i mean
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that's me joking obviously i'm uh i guess i'm baiting a little bit i don't know uh thank you man
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uh okay we have psycho donated 25 dollars brian i felt it necessary to inform you that i find you
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to be utterly atrocious for your like of wizard sleeves you freak listen me and andrew as we're
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both you know i'm the founder but he's on the board of directors we will not stand for your bigotry
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hatred towards women with audis and large labia andrew is he's he's on the board of directors he
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anyways uh yeah i disavow disavow this i 100 percent disavow yeah but the one point of contention
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that me and mr atlas have all the time is i do not it was super mild i do not believe that brian
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i haven't gotten a single i don't i don't believe that big labia is mad anybody disavow
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just one point of contention any audis at the table are you circumcised uh if i answer will
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everybody here are we talking about belly button beautiful an audi what labia audi labia no i'm
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just curious to have an audi yeah especially as a runner that would like ruin my life
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okay um what the fuck let's play the play again uh yeah we can't do that sorry bro sorry
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oh brettimus underscore maximus donated 25 dollars purple hair you said you're playing
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therapist to many men on your of when you were questioned on what it would take for you to quit
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what if i told you that you could do it for just one man husband raven simp donated 25 dollars that said
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i'd love to try to date i mean debate raven xt i'll be in the instagram dms i can tell you love the
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attention especially when guys mention your peach long old man marine donated 25 andrew what's wrong
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with you today you were way too nice tonight did you get your rocks off before you came on spit that fire
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we love it my apologies brian you're not that fat lol well okay bucky larson donated 27
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of girls you shall bow to brian right now or else he'll turn into a grizzly bear
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you think you could survive brian the grizzly bear
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russ donated 25 dollars patriarch here just sending love to bobby babe for tolerating these cringe lords vote yay
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oh my god hi i love you is that one of your only fan simps no patriarch would ever john the
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wife donated 25 dollars raven hair the show isn't over yet but i am already cheating on you you are
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a blabbering know-it-all think you are always correct and you never rest tfu better get help
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sort of six thousand nine hundred and sixty nine blah blah blah 69 donated 25 dollars
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now for fun mommy milk is mommy milk is motorboat
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oh my god nickelodeon donated 25 dollars you're not worth a roast blondie i forgot you were there oh damn
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damn hey boom roasted boom that is a good roast boom i can't stop looking at her in the monitor
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because then she doesn't know i'm looking at me yourself donated 25 dollars brian try to be
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productive by being collaborative rather than combative you act personally offended every
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time you are challenged it's immature try to conduct yourself better
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shut up ragnaros lord of fire donated 25 dollars brixen if you treated that dumpy like a raid boss
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you could get rid of it in one raid here the loot that drops is a plus 10 stand buffers
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ragnaros lord of fire donated 25 uh you can pull those up nick guys we're it's just through uh stream
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labs if you want to send a message we're not doing reads um uh yeah okay thanks yeah thank you guys
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appreciate it appreciate it if you guys want you can get your last minute uh messages in there for the
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roasts we're going to wrap up here in a few minutes and uh trying to think what else there was to uh
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talk about i hit all my notes we did all the dating apps oh we didn't do the bumble segment okay
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uh we'll have the girls do uh you get 20 swipes each this is good to do with end i like this
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and uh we'll see uh what your type is we need like your dating age range yeah age range you get like
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50 men and women is that allowed uh i think we can only do men okay wait so 30 to 50. 31 to 50.
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it's not it's not like a non-negotiable i would go for an older or younger guy but f11 please oh nice
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do i like sure they're bios no i mean the first picture looks yeah okay
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so yes or no i'm not into the fedora but he's cute no the fedora was a deal breaker
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yeah no yes i like him yes um definitely yes yes yes we're pausing the tts for just a moment but
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you guys can send them in and i'll get to them in a bit making like the silliest face i can't tell but
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um i don't know which one which one just choose like the hottest one if there's like
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multiple guys in the picture um yes i want this guy in the bike
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we're gonna go with you next in your age range what's your age range uh
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no no no no no no no he's peeing in that that's a no hard no no who's next age range um let's say 29 to 40
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uh yes yes no no no yes i don't travel guys on here yes yes not enough dad bods yes which one
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is it a two-for-one deal uh no what kind of picture is that yes who's rock climbing uh
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you don't even know who it is just say yes or no no
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into the mic if you can just say yes or no i can't see his face well enough no
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Yes. No. No. Nope. Yes. No. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Yes.
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It wasn't even like overwhelmingly like yes or no.
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Not as picky as like other people have been. They're pretty good.
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All right, guys, we're going to do a few more minutes of the thing.
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A couple came through. I'm going to let them come through.
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Eric Six donated $25. Did you see H3Ethan challenged you to a debate?
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I believe you could beat him. He clearly has never watched your show and is only making assumptions on your stances and opinions.
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You guys are getting worse and harder than we are.
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I mean, I honestly, I'm not interested, to be honest.
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Brian, I'm not sure why you don't go down on women.
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With your micro-peeper, you have to give the girls something to expect.
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Eating these is usually tasty, unless it's summer.
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Will you kiss a woman after she's gone down on you?
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She can, like, rinse her mouth or brush her teeth or whatever, but...
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I said that if a woman were to go down on a dude, you ain't fucking kissing her afterwards.
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How about instead of you two whispering under your breath, why don't you actually say
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Because it feels like you make a statement and then he agrees.
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Yeah, he just doesn't like to be kissed after his wife goes on.
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But I feel like those are like very high school things to say because that's just inexperienced.
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I need to walk a guy through a mall while he's drinking his sperm and then I can get the
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sufficient experience to get the clap like you did.
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Well, so how would it have anything to do with inexperience?
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I did it a couple times when I was younger, but I quickly...
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So, HPV, men are experiencing very high incidence of throat and head cancer.
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But, a lot of men are getting throat and head cancer.
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Well, for the longest time, it wasn't recommended in men.
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It's only now, recently, that they've started recommending men get the HPV vaccine.
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I mean, I already regret having done it those couple times when I was much younger.
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I'm not getting throat cancer for your sexual gratification.
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If that makes me high school and inexperienced, I ain't doing that shit.
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Is it a higher percentage of men getting throat cancer than a girl?
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That's where Tony Montana got his famous scar as well.
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But if your wife isn't sleeping around, though, how would you get...
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And I don't know the exact breakdown, but it does seem to be...
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This does seem to be manifesting itself more in men.
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And they've got neck problems, too, so, you know, I'm not trying to...
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I mean, you're entitled to your sexual boundaries, dude.
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Yeah, I'm not trying to argue that you're wrong for that.
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I didn't say that, but it does seem a little bit like...
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Like, that's something that I feel like a high school kid would say.
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How would you feel if a guy didn't respect that boundary?
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I was just saying you guys, like, you say one thing, he agrees.
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He said something, and then I disagreed with him, and then we agreed on the things that
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And now that I know the reason, that there's not, like, a, oh, like, pussy stank or some
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And there's no scenario where I'm going to go down on a girl who, there's a possibility
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Some guys may not want to go down on a chick who has armpit hair.
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Alyssa, you have the right energy, but you're not there yet.
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38 yo, 6 feet 100k plus, WFH tech, nerdy AF, strong dad bod, solo dad to one yo girl.
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The cell with a 6 feet 7 inches, 270 pounds, 5% body fat prison daddy bear who starts you
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Two, the other cell with a grizzly bear who mauls you.
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I don't even know how to answer this dumb fucking thing.
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Honestly, I'm definitely dying if it's the grizzly bear.
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I'd probably survive with the 6'7 dude, so I'm going to survive.
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Love how tonight's thumbnail is essentially soft core corn with a highly sexualized edit
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I don't even understand the argument here, but okay.
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Okay, grid one is the definition of a divorced energy.
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Okay, I don't know if he's here to see that, but.
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Live statistics, one in six women got the clap.
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At the end of the day, no sane man will be putting a ring on that.
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And yes, Andrew, I do hope you're swinging titty blank debates, Ethan, as he can't call
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Former correctional officer ate me on Insta Superman underscore R underscore L89.
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I believe the threshold for that is far more than the 25, so unfortunately we can't rate
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I think I even took it out of as an option to do an Instagram rating.
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I mean, we'll do it for $500 if you want, but otherwise we're not going to do a rating.
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I thought they were talking about you, and then I realized he's correct.
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Anyone who has ever said get that bag was female, etc.
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Love how tonight's thumbnail is essentially soft court.
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With the girl's chest out hypocritical stuff, but not surprising.
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Fat boy Andrew got stuffed in the locker all his child and adult life.
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He thought reading books, marrying a single mom, and taking care of their kids is the way to live.
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And, guys, it's been 17 minutes since we've had a Prime, so it's probably bugged.
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I don't know if somebody can test that out, but Viking, think for the Prime.
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So if you guys can, just hit the like button, guys.
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Get us to 3,000 likes before the end of the video helps out in the algorithm.
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By seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you three – well, actually, maybe you two – a call to action,
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would you consider stomping sex work entirely tonight?
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I'd never even – I'd never noticed stuff like that.
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You don't have any of those strays like I do right here.
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I tried to raid some smaller streamers at the end of my stream.
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We're going to get her on the dating talk eventually.
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She's got – anyways, I'm going to send this out right now.
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It looks like she's about to do a raid or something.
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Or, no, she's just playing with her user interface.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who Super Chats, donates, and supports the show.
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We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
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We have a very good panel on Tuesday, assuming no flakes and no shows like we had today.
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I did let Brian know that that may happen, but should be in the clear on that now.
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I just had some stuff come up in the life that I had to take care of, so I want to apologize.
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Yeah, as I was scheduled tonight, and I was late, and that's not anything that I ever really like to ever do, so I'm sorry about that.
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So, EverQuest, and then into WoW in the early 2000s.
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I'm trying to get our raids set up to you, Andrew.
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You're going to be streaming for a little bit after this?
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Well, I appreciate everybody here at the panel turning out and the spirited debate, even though
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you suck at it, you should probably quit immediately.
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But other than that, right, it was a fun panel.
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I thought it was a fun exchange back and forth.
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There's nothing you're ever going to be able to do to change my mind as long as you live.
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You had the opportunity of a lifetime to go out on the best...
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Listen, I was trying to, you know, adhere to your personal preference.
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This is the victim thing that I don't like, but I guess men.
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We're the ones that start the wars and then they have to finish them.
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If you want to go back to England times, you know, the monarchy, like, there's plenty of
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women that were in power who have started wars, and they were more violent than the
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Nick, can you Google kings or queens, like, more likely to start war?
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So, my understanding is they did an analysis, queens were more likely than kings to go to
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They were probably trying to, like, really assert their dominance, but just like female
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police officers can be a little bit correctional officers and all that stuff.
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Just, like, the prison guards that are women, like, they say that they're way more harsh.
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39 percentage points more likely to engage in a war in a given year compared to polities
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Yeah, so it says, over 193 reigns, they found that states ruled by queens were 20...
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It just says, were 27% more likely to wage war than those ruled by kings.
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Uh, there's a bunch of articles that seem to cite this 27% number, so...
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Well, I'm on the side of the, like, prejudice and power thing on this argument.
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Well, actually, yeah, yeah, I guess you, yeah, you can be, but I won't, I don't, I wouldn't
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The question is, can, not like, can, in general, people, women, can you be racist towards men?
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So, yours is the prejudice, but what, so, uh, can you be racist towards white people?
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Um, I see what y'all are saying, like, I've experienced racism growing up, like, in a predominantly
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black area, and going to a very much predominantly black school, and where I was a minority, but
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I'm not over here crying the white girl tears, like, because historically, and just with everything,
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It's like, like I said, it has to be, there has to be, like, a bit of power with it.
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You just said that you experienced racism while you were at a black school.
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I think that it was, it's quite different, I think, than racism.
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Um, racism, because that's on, like, a societal, in a societal level, but this was my experience
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in a small area, and also, we're talking about, like, a group of people that have been
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So when you were the minority in a black school, you experienced racism.
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That means that black people can be racist towards white people, right?
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I would say it was very valid for them to feel the way that they do based on, like, what
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they have been through, what, their generations before them, and their family lineage have
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They were just children who have been experiencing a lot of, I'm sure that they experienced way
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Like, there's, kids bully kids, and whether it's racist or.
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Yeah, but did you deserve for them to be racist towards you or not?
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Yeah, so you didn't deserve it, and they were racist towards you, and you were the minority,
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and they had the institutional power, and so, therefore, whites can experience racism from
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Yeah, but I'm not hurting from it in the same way.
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I'm really too tired for this, and a little bit hungover and jet-lagged.
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He's white, and I've seen it with my own eyes, and I'm a person of color, and it's,
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Yeah, well, I'm just, just trying to explain to you that both ways, both ways here, your
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Either way, one, that your ideology is wrong is that you started out by saying, I've experienced
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racism when I was in a predominantly, um, you know, black school where I was the minority.
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But then he went on to say, well, but I think that racism can really only be prejudice plus
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But if you're the only minority in that school, or one of the few minorities in that school,
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then the power would go over to these other people who were not the minorities at the
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So if that's the case, that's still prejudice plus power by your criteria.
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So both ways, whites can experience racism, right?
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But the racism that they showed toward me did not, like, the racism they showed toward
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me in this one small little example, in this little scenario, did not have an effect on,
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like, everything to do with my life and my grandparents and, like, segregation and all
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It didn't have a long-term lasting effect on you.
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If you didn't deserve it, which is what you're saying, it must have had some effect on you
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because you remember that you didn't deserve it, right?
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I said, yeah, me personally, it's not like I was the one, like, I did not live in the,
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like, slave-owning days or do any shit like that.
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But let us assume for a second it made all of those people who were racist towards you
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Do you think they should have been racist towards you?
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I really don't mind being someone's punching bag.
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You have just justified anti-black racism by whites.
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You just justified it, saying they can do it because it makes them feel better.
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And I think the white people are still doing it to them, so.
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Yeah, but it's okay because it makes them feel better.
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If more white people feel better because there's more white people than there are black people
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and it makes them feel better than, by your logic, they should be able to do it.
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Generational trauma and, like, are oppressed as shit.
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So, we as white people aren't feeling better by being racist.
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I just want to, I do want to point out one thing here.
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History shows that white people were slaves much longer than black people.
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Okay, but, like, between, like, 1500 and 1750, there were, like, millions and millions
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I mean, our ancestors, my ancestors for sure were.
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Otherwise, I do want to try to get things right up there.
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So, I'm just saying, the final thing, you might want to, you might want to re-evaluate
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whether or not people should be able to be racist towards you because it makes them feel
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That seems like a really bad position, which would actually justify, hang on, hang on,
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But, yeah, anyway, you might want to re-evaluate that because you'll end up justifying racism.
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I'm saying that all that stuff, it wasn't that long ago.
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So, the tension is still there, and I think that we're moving away from racism, and I
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I simply said, I think racism is more of a prejudice and power thing.
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In Beauty and the Beast, how useful is the Beast transformation capable of building a
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good society despite his lack of cooperation in Bell World?
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In Salgaston, proven to the townspeople be better?
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Brian, check out the examples used on the Women's Rating Guide in about section of subreddit
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r slash true eratim rating as a metric of rating looks more objectively.
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Andrew, is she savable or is the indoctrination too deep at this point?
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Why would I punish or think lower of you when you had nothing to do with it?
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In 1838, Governor Wade Boggs of Missouri signed the Mormon Extermination Act, Executive Order 44.
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State-sanctioned genocide on U.S. soil against whites.
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Purple Elliot again, just saw you like black guys, geez.
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And then while you're gone, Andrew, this one from Stacey came through.
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Andrew, is she savable or is the indoctrination too deep at this point?
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With that said, I want to do another quick thank you to the panel.
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Pull up your shirt and tell me you're fucking proud of that shit.
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Well, they're upset that I don't shave my arms.
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Apparently, real men shave their arms, apparently.
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Have I not taught you that two wrongs don't make a right?
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SMH, you'll get your spankings when you come home.
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We're going to raid Andrew over there on YouTube.