BBW Roster？! Fake Conservative God Fearing ØNLYFANS Girl EXPOSED As Liar？! E-GIRLS! ｜ Dating Talk #196
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Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, host Brian Atlas is joined by Eva and Brenna, two college students from Los Angeles and Houston, Texas, respectively. They talk about what it's like being a college student in Los Angeles, how they got into journalism, and what they're up to now.
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With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So
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please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead.
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I'm Eva. I'm 20. And I'm from Los Angeles. And I'm a student.
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Um, political science. Okay. What do you want to go into pre-law? So you want to become
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a lawyer? Yeah. Do you know what kind of law? Um, I think corporate law. Corporate law.
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Okay. What about you? I'm Brenna Black. I am CEO of Blackheart Lingerie. I'm the CEO of Blackheart
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Lingerie. I'm a lingerie and swim model and a creative director. Age? 28.
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And I'm from Houston, Texas. Any school? I went to UT. Got your bachelor's? No, I didn't
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finish. I came out here and became a broadcast journalist. What did you study while you were
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there? Broadcast journalism. Makes sense. Makes sense. And then for content creation, what
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do you do? For content creation, I create works of art, post them on my Instagram, like glossy
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magazine style photo shoots. And you do OnlyFans. Is that correct? I do have an OnlyFans. All right.
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What kind of content do you do on there? Sexy, lingerie, nothing vulgar. Any like scenes with
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men? No. No. Okay. Scenes with women? No. Nudity? Some. Some? Okay. My name is Lindsay.
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Welcome back. Just spaced out. I am 20 years old. I'm in the music industry. I DJ and produce
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music. School? I went to community college. What were you studying? Psych. Psych. Psych. And
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you DJ. Do you sing at all or any instruments? I do sing. I have some music I'm working on
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right now. Let's hear something. Let's hear something? Yeah. Just start singing from 10
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people. I'm trying to even think what I... Get back to me on that. I can't think. The audio
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is still muted. Just FYI. Has it been fixed? Yeah. Okay. What about you? Hi. I'm Paula.
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I'm from Boston, Massachusetts. I'm 36 years old and I own a dog training company. I'm kind
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of from all over the place. I'm prior military, so I moved around a lot and kind of from all
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over. Which branch of the military? I was in the Marine Corps. Marine Corps. Okay. Enlisted
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officer? Enlisted. How long were you in the military? Eight years. What was your rank when
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you discharged? Staff Sergeant. Staff Sergeant. Okay. Welcome. What about you? Hello. My name
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is Lindsay. I'm from originally Illinois and I live in Southern Orange County and I'm a sales
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director for InstaSculpting. All right. I'm 36. 36. All right. Welcome. What about you? My name
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is Athena. I am 36 years old from Texas. I have a little homestead farm. I'm working on starting
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a farm to table food truck. I also have a small construction business and I'm working on publishing
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my first children's book this year. Just a question. Are you, your glasses, are they prescription?
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They are. Okay. How bad's your vision? I think it's bad. I can't drive without them. Okay. Just
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wondering. What about you? My name is Chris. I am 51. I was born in Los Angeles, grew up in Lancaster
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and settled in Temecula. I am a content creator. My umbrella company is called The Pink Pill. I have
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a channel called that name and courses and I've also launched a body care company called Water Body
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Care. And also the co-author of Swirling. I gave that to you earlier. The book. Yeah. Thank you. I
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signed it. What is, so what's the book? Swirling, how to date, mate, and relate mixing race, culture,
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and creed. It's all about interracial relationships from a black woman's perspective. Okay. We'll
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certainly get into that a bit later on in the show. And then are you the one in like the YouTube
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chat? I sometimes see The Pink Pill. Is that, is that you? That's me. All right. So you're one of
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the chatters. All right. Very cool. And shout out to the chatters. I told them I would shout them out.
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Boom. Hey guys. What about you? My name is Alexis. I am 34 years old. I am a full-time stay at home
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wife and mother. And I also work full-time from home as an office manager slash corporate secretary
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for my family owned business. And you said 35, right? 34. I'll be 35 at the end of the month. So
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okay. 35 it goes. Gotcha. Okay. I'm 34. Yep. My name is Jake. 28 years old. YouTube channel called
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Rattlesnake TV. Podcast reality based. And that's about it for me. All right. My name is Brian Atlas,
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35, Santa Barbara, California. Over the hill YouTuber, I guess. Going around the table once more,
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what is everybody's current relationship status? So are you single talking stage situation ship friends
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with benefits? Relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be. If you're
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single, how long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
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Starting with you. Go ahead. I'm single. Sorry. Is the audio muted?
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That's peculiar. Go ahead with your relationship status, please.
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I'm single. And I've been single since last October. And my longest relationship was like
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I am also single. And I've been single for three years. My longest relationship was seven years.
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And I was in an engagement that ended in that seven-year relationship.
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I am currently single. My longest relationship was like three, four years on and off. And I've been
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single for about a year. I'm also currently single. I've been single for two years. My longest
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relationship was 11 years. And that was with my ex-husband. So I'm divorced. And that's that.
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I apologize. I need everybody to repeat there. That was not the appropriate...
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Okay. I'm single. I've been single since last October. And I think my longest relationship was
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I'm single. My last relationship was three years ago, which was an engagement to a man that I dated for
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Okay. So longest relationship, seven years. Engaged, never married?
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And you said you've been single for three years.
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I'm currently single. My longest relationship was three, four years on and off. And I've been single
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All right. And you were on the show about a month ago. Any prospects since the last time you were on the
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Weren't you involved with a man who was also involved with your mom?
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Who was the guy who... No, your roommate. Excuse me, right?
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My roommate. What? I moved, actually. We're not roommates anymore.
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Not your mom. You were involved with the guy who was involved with your roommate.
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Did everybody know what was going on? Or was someone out of the loop?
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Oh, it wasn't like we were dating or anything. No one was dating. It was just...
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And you guys just knew that you were both with the same guy?
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Did he share rooms? Monday with you, Tuesday with your friend?
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Exactly. It was like every other day, you know, switch it up, back massages for both
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before bed, little bedtime story. It was a great, great...
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Kill of cereal. I'm trying to figure out why the TTS isn't working.
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No, we weren't. No one was ever going to date. He's still one of my best friends.
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But Adderall Levine was my nickname last time, so...
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Adderall Levine. There you go. That's a good one.
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No, we follow a strict diet, so we're always cooking together.
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And did we talk about your on-again, off-again relationship last episode?
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Well, you said you were in a three- to four-year relationship, which is your longest...
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Oh, yeah. We talked about it last time, just on and off.
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How many... Just remind me, how many times was it on and off again?
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Three, four. I told you uncountable. It was like a... It was basically just using drugs.
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I am single. I've been single for two years, and my longest relationship was 11 years.
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How long... How long were you married in the 11-year relationship?
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How long... Oh, okay. How long were you guys together?
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Okay. And so you said you've been single for two years. Have you dated any other guys
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Yes. I had a longer-term relationship in between that time.
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Hi. I am single. My longest relationship was three and a half years. I'm not dating anyone.
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Ten months, we'll say. All right. Longest relationship, 3.5 years.
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Okay. Was that on again, off again, or pretty straight?
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I mean, there was on and off, but more so just out of frustration of moments, differences.
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Okay. So are there any guys currently in the picture?
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Three and a half years ago before I dated my son's father.
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But you said you've been single for 10 months, so I'm assuming 10 months ago you were seeing somebody?
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Oh, the 3.5-year relationship ended 10 months ago.
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I just don't think I'm ready to just state right now I have goals within myself and I have
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And I don't want to waste anyone else's time when I'm, you know, essentially not there.
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But if it happens, it'll happen organically is kind of where my brain's at with it.
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It wasn't going to go anywhere in the direction I needed to.
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Uh, my son is with me, uh, lives with me full time.
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Um, but his dad does have, um, certain days that, you know, work out.
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And has this gone through the court system or...
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Are you seeking for this to go to the court or...
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He doesn't pay child support, you know, because we haven't gone to court.
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But he does help out here and there with certain aspects of...
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Our son goes to a little school, um, because I do have to work full time, um, given the new
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And just when I, when I say child support, I don't necessarily mean child support.
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That is through the court, but you could have come to some sort of arrangement where he's
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...a thousand dollars, two thousand dollars a month, something like that.
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Just, I, I, um, I delay certain things with my son's medical stuff, so I don't...
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He can't go into a normal daycare given the circumstances of those delays.
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Anyways, so, um, going back to you, you have two kids, right?
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We just both kind of decided that we weren't the right fit for each other, and it just wasn't
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going anywhere, and so we filed for a separation, and it went through the court system in terms
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Okay, because you guys were married, yeah, so you had to go through the court to get the
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divorce, okay, and then that, you probably bundled in the child custody component there.
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I'm not going to put a number on it, but it's not enough.
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We actually just saw each other after 19 years.
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The first time she flew out to visit me to come here with me.
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I just want to, like, get to know someone before, you know, jumping into anything.
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My longest relationship was eight and a half years with my ex-husband.
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He just recently started paying child support, which is kind of helpful.
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He was like, you just do it, and then I'll sign it.
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My longest relationship was for 20 years, over 20 years.
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I was married and divorced, and I recently got a promise ring.
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How long have you been in your current relationship?
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So three kids from one father, one kid from another father.
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But none from your current one-year relationship?
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I mean, it was definitely, he said, go ahead and file.
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But it was definitely mutual and also very amicable, eventually.
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So no child support from either of the two fathers?
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But with the first child, yeah, I did receive child support.
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And the first child, that was the one child that you had with just one?
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I have, my longest relationship would be, I think, 11 years.
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I have four biological, pregnant with my fifth, and I have two stepdaughters.
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Wait, are you currently, who's currently pregnant here?
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So no idea what's going on with the Stream Labs messages.
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Does anybody hear, I, a lot of, there's a lot of pre-show notes, by the way.
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I'm going to try my best to get through all of them, but there's a lot, uh, and I know some
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of you included some disagreements in your pre-show notes, but perhaps some of you who
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didn't include any in your pre-show notes or want to raise them now, uh, any disagreements
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that anybody has, either with, maybe you've seen something Jake said or something I've said
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I'd like to address the disagreements as they happen.
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I would say the majority of the shows that I've seen, it's been with you and Andrew, Brian.
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And I have to say that, yeah, there's a lot wrong with what's going on with women, but
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you guys tilt really hard towards it being like the women being the primary catalyst for
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the issues that are going on in the dating world when it's really both.
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Like there's really a lot of things that are going wrong with both genders and like
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It's just boring, you know, like, let's just figure it out.
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I mean, well, I don't think, uh, I don't think I actually say that.
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Like, I don't, I don't actually say it's mostly women's fault when it comes to the
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whole, just the fuckery of the dating landscape, although it probably is.
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So I'm prepared to actually have the conversation.
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What makes you think that they say that it's mostly women?
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Well, because the majority of the panelists, sorry, the majority of the panelists are women.
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And, uh, admittedly some are very unfortunate in their thought processes, but I don't see
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men on, at this table who are also dumb and make dumb choices.
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What do you think are some of the dumb choices that men make?
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What are some of those things you're talking about?
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Um, well, I would say for one, doom scrolling Instagram for what they think a, you know,
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the woman that they want, um, listening to old people tell them that relationships and
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marriage aren't worth it, um, spending too much time on devices, no social skills, not
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being able to communicate, read body language, uh, actually interact.
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And, um, I think certain antiquated ideas about how this whole thing works with, with couples.
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Like, I think that there's a lot of, uh, I don't know, on both sides, there's just some
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really outrageous expectations that I think we need to bring down to the reality.
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With the first few, you've got doom scrolling, you've got unable to communicate, read body
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When do the people on this show espouse those sorts of behaviors, that they're correct?
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No, I'm, I'm, I'm not, that's not what you asked me.
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You asked me, um, what are some of the problems that men are having?
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Yeah, yeah, but I'm making, I'm making a bigger point.
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You said that they're primarily blaming women, which would mean that they're enabling the
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bad behavior of men, at which point have they enabled bad behavior of men or encouraged
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So there's things that are actually said and then there's things that are implied.
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So when the men come on, it seems to be that they're going after the women.
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I've, I haven't really seen them go after men in the same, with the same energy, except
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for there was like two guys who were in the porn industry and they kind of ripped them.
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Yeah, so, um, but for the most part, it's mainly the women and directing what men think
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Do you think maybe it's because with the women, they invite a broader cross section of the
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population of women, so they get all different perspectives, whereas the men tend to, generally
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If you get like a, a guy like myself, Andrew Wilson, Charlie Kirk, guys like this, we all
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have a reasonable, with a, with a lot of disagreements, we have a reasonably similar worldview.
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Whereas with the girls, there's a lot more to pick apart because you guys are all so
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So you think there's just more subject matter there?
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Because, I mean, there are a lot of issues with guys and girls.
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I think with guys, one of the biggest issues is porn, overconsumption of internet porn.
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And like you said, doom scrolling, lack of motivation, ambition, but there's a lot of societal
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There's also a lot with women, but I think it's just brought to the forefront more because
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So you're saying that like more men are suffering from these things, so it's like pretty much
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the same, but wouldn't it be kind of interesting and good if more men would come to podcasts
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like this and express what their frustrations are to an actual woman?
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Generally speaking, men in their own social circles, like hash these things out with each
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There's not really much of a need for it because the world tells us these sorts of things.
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Because if Brian was doing something absurd, I'd just tell him, hey, Brian, you're doing
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But generally with women, I think you guys tend to be much less accountable to each other
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Like we see women who will say, I'm a 10, I'm a 10, I'm a 10.
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But with guys, we just don't act like that because we really can't afford to or else the
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If it's false, what you're saying, then it's delusion.
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It's a bit different because like guys, my closest friends are my two brothers and the
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level of competitiveness that we have with each other is you guys would probably cry if
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you had some of the conversations that we had with each other because it's just so
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But there's certain, and also just in something Jordan Peterson says a lot, if you guys ever
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listen to him, that men tend to operate within a structure where there's physical consequences
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So if I say something to a guy, it can escalate to a point where there's going to be physical
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So generally we tend to regulate our relationships, which regulates ourselves and our level of delusion
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But women unfortunately don't really have the same thing.
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So it's interesting when I think when, when the opinions are expressed.
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I have a question, like going back on it, maybe, um, I feel like there's a bunch of ways
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you can interpret, like rate yourself one out of 10.
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I feel like there's many ways you can interpret it and you know, there's a way, what do you
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Like walking down the street, like what would you view me as versus like, what do I see myself
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Because I would rate myself like higher because I have confidence within myself to dress how I
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So I view myself as like, I'm expressing how I'd like to, but maybe you can interpret the
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question of like, cause I don't think that's delusion, you know, like expressing yourself
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how you want and all of those things and viewing that as like a 10.
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But let's see that the kind of the definition of delusion is if you view yourself in a way
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that's not compatible with how the rest of the world sees you and like, because we have
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to regulate in society, what is real and what isn't.
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And then when somebody sees themselves as a 10 and in societally, societally, objectively
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speaking, there may be a six or a seven or somewhere probably in the middle of the bell
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Now there's nothing wrong with having self-confidence and self-respect.
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That's a fantastic thing and having an intrinsic dignity.
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But I think that if you are actually a confident person and you're confident enough to say that,
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you know, I'm a, I'm a six or a seven or I'm not, I'm not the best thing ever.
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Well, because a 10, a 10 is, is a remarkable feat.
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If you ever see a 10, you're like, you look three times.
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I mean, obviously everyone has different types and all of these things that could contribute
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to like, you know, I might be like that person's a 10 and you might be like that person I wouldn't
00:32:25.460
even say hi to, you know, and obviously those things.
00:32:29.480
And there's definitely subjective interpretations.
00:32:33.660
I might like Eastern European girls and another guy might like Latin girls.
00:32:38.640
But generally speaking, when we're looking at rating ourselves, it's on a global sort
00:32:43.920
Like we can get a reasonably accurate estimate of where we think we are.
00:32:49.340
Also, this is just another thing as to why it's more interesting when girls flesh out
00:32:53.620
their proper worldviews is because you guys get a lot more male attention.
00:32:58.340
Like if you're a pretty girl and you have an Instagram and you post some nice photos,
00:33:01.720
you're going to get a lot of attention from guys.
00:33:03.920
But us, I mean, I've got a big YouTube channel that's like nearly 700,000 subscribers.
00:33:13.580
So we don't have this constant flattery where we're, oh my God, you're the best.
00:33:18.300
I mean, the men viewing your stuff, you know, like you probably, I haven't seen you, I'm
00:33:23.340
sorry, but you probably go on as like a male role model to these men, you know, like women,
00:33:30.360
I, in my opinion, like role models, like I want to look at women as my role models.
00:33:37.780
I'm like, I watch male YouTubers, I love Ben Shapiro, I love Brett Cooper, and I look
00:33:46.920
But that can be an issue that, with men, you know, that they're giving women and like she
00:33:54.900
I mentioned porn before and things that you mentioned are all great points as well.
00:33:58.580
But also, I'd say, simping is another big thing.
00:34:04.020
It's like something that's heavily, heavily discouraged on this show is going to OnlyFans
00:34:08.600
pages, paying for that sort of thing, and giving unrequited attention to women.
00:34:16.200
So I wanted to say that you might personally not have a lot of women coming to your Instagram
00:34:23.220
page because of your platform and what it is that you're shooting for.
00:34:28.040
But look at all these muscle guys who are like advertising how they can do 100 pull-ups
00:34:44.900
I mean, it's to say that men don't ever get that kind of attention is a little bit of a
00:34:51.580
On a linear scale like this, and we showed all of the most attractive women, we'll say the
00:34:56.440
top 5% of women compared to the 5% most attractive men.
00:35:00.540
Do you think that there'd be an imbalance in who gets more attention?
00:35:05.360
I'd say maybe 1% or 2% skewed more to the women, but I'd say it'd be pretty even.
00:35:10.580
I'd say that the top 5% of women would just get a constant influx of absolute just simping
00:35:32.500
I would say that the amount of attention that a pretty girl gets on Instagram would be,
00:35:37.000
you could liken that maybe to Elvis Presley in his prime with the kind of attention that
00:35:42.860
You had lots of different women from all around the world every time.
00:35:45.300
I don't think everyone ever sees, but lots of different women all around the world.
00:35:49.760
But with girls, some of these girls have hundreds of thousands, millions of followers,
00:35:55.660
The Buddha never had this sort of occult following or any of these historical figures.
00:36:07.800
Prison Bay was literally a guy who was in prison, but took a mugshot, very good looking,
00:36:17.580
Now he is an international model, and he's dating an heiress.
00:36:27.080
The last I checked, I mean, he left his family.
00:36:29.460
Apparently he was married at the time, so he left his wife and kids because the internet
00:36:34.620
and the whole world told him that he was fine, and so he decided to live his dream.
00:36:40.440
Can I just say, just a quick little show of hands, does anybody here agree that the top
00:36:44.960
5% of men would get the same amount of attention as the top 5% of women?
00:36:51.680
The top 5% of good looking men on the internet?
00:36:55.180
Do you think they'd get the same amount of inboxes and they'd get the same amount of just
00:37:02.560
I think that that's pretty delusional, if I'm honest.
00:37:05.480
I think that they get the same amount of attention, like, if I'm telling a friend, like, oh my
00:37:10.400
But I'm not sliding into Justin Bieber's DMs, like, I don't, you know what I mean?
00:37:15.520
Yeah, I think it's pretty quantifiable, though, because if you just look at OnlyFans, who are
00:37:23.260
You struggle to find a guy and maybe a few male points.
00:37:25.180
I think it's also, like, socially predictable that men always look and scroll and comment,
00:37:32.660
where, like, when you go onto even, like, a better looking guy's page and you scroll
00:37:37.140
through comments, it's almost, like, cringey when women...
00:37:44.420
Yeah, because, like, because men are hunters, so, like, they're always the ones going after
00:37:48.540
women, whereas, like, when a woman does it, it's very, like, distasteful.
00:37:52.520
I'd say that's probably the best point that could be made in regard to this, is that women
00:37:57.320
They talk with their girlfriends, oh, this guy's so hot.
00:37:59.200
Or directly, like, to the man, but not publicly.
00:38:01.940
Like, if you're talking to somebody, then you'll, like, tell them they're handsome or, you know,
00:38:06.780
whatever, but you're not going to do it publicly.
00:38:08.840
I actually think the percentage would be not even close.
00:38:14.660
I approach people publicly all the time, like, on Instagram.
00:38:20.180
That's why it's not an even score, she's saying.
00:38:24.360
Wait, so I do want to come back to what you're saying.
00:38:39.020
You're saying that men and women, when it comes to their difficulty interacting with the
00:38:47.760
He was talking about, in terms of, like, attention and attraction on Instagram.
00:38:55.000
He was asking me if he thought that the attention that the women got was equal to the men.
00:39:00.160
I'd say that with the women, maybe there's a few pretendage more, but pretty much it's
00:39:04.780
I think he said that in response to an original point you made.
00:39:12.660
The original critique was that she thinks that we, like, the podcast tends to skew more
00:39:21.560
So you were making another argument, essentially kind of saying dating is, is about easy, it's
00:39:39.300
I think what her argument was, was saying how there are men of issues, too.
00:39:44.760
Like, at the beginning, she was giving examples of what men do wrong in relationships.
00:39:48.260
And she's also expressing that you guys kind of, no, no, okay, I think, please just allow
00:39:55.080
So I think you were saying something along the lines of, the men get about equivalent
00:40:04.700
I was talking specifically about Instagram, though.
00:40:11.240
I'm pretty sure Jake was using that in response to something you said.
00:40:16.500
That men and women receive about equivalent sexual and romantic attention?
00:40:26.860
Can somebody in the chat please tell me what you said?
00:40:29.080
Earlier, she was saying that they're essentially, not that men aren't being held accountable,
00:40:34.760
but because it's mostly women here, y'all address the issues with women, but we don't hear
00:40:44.240
And I wanted to interject and say, a lot of people say the 70% of divorces are initiated
00:40:52.020
But when you take out certain statistics, and I think this is probably where you were going
00:40:57.700
If you take out abuse, if you take out infidelity, the 70% isn't exactly 70-30.
00:41:07.500
Because if you look at what the Psychological Association says about abuse, it can be things
00:41:13.580
So Brian could divorce me if we were gaslighting him about the chat or anything like that.
00:41:21.760
But even if you took that 23% and you just cut that in half, because it was like 23% was
00:41:27.920
because of abuse, cut that in half, or even a third, because like you said, you can say
00:41:34.960
abuse is whatever, it still changes the statistics a little bit.
00:41:44.360
And I think it kind of honestly panders to men who don't want to take accountability.
00:41:49.660
I think accountability is an issue like across the board, more so with women.
00:41:54.080
But there's also a lot of men who also lack accountability.
00:41:59.300
Well, I mean, the statistics would still be far in favor of women breaking up the families
00:42:05.800
But I mean, it also blows out to like 90% when you look at college-educated women.
00:42:12.620
So I think that statistic in itself says a lot about the dynamics in a marriage and what
00:42:18.180
And there's a lot of internation in the education system.
00:42:22.380
And also in terms of hypergamy, because college-educated women who earn a lot of money and have very
00:42:26.620
successful careers are much more likely to look elsewhere.
00:42:29.620
If they feel the man isn't above them, if they feel the man is below or equal, much more
00:42:36.240
I think men tend to need a, I don't think this is controversial, men need a father figure.
00:42:41.320
And I think that men tend to look up to people and men that look up to you.
00:42:48.160
Like, I could kind of get an understanding when you relate it to, like, maybe Charlie Kirk
00:42:52.220
But, and then men tend to copy, like, people that they like.
00:42:59.040
Like, there's a percentage of men that look up to you, kind of follow your sort of guidelines
00:43:05.420
And then there's the men that see other guys, like, treating women horribly and all of those
00:43:11.840
So that could play a factor also in, like, how men, like, that's an issue.
00:43:17.520
You're talking about, like, guys who have certain role models online and role models might not
00:43:26.400
But I think that particularly with this podcast, it gets a bad rap in that regard that it's
00:43:30.940
that it somehow doesn't sort of cater to that message.
00:43:33.700
But if you look at a guy like Andrew, who's on all the time, he's got, you know, five
00:43:37.100
kids, and he's happily married, and he's contributing to sort of the apparatus that is of the healthy
00:43:43.960
You've got guys like Charlie Kirk, he's married with kids, and they're having these conversations.
00:43:48.700
So back to your critique about the podcast, I would ask, what exactly are the messages
00:43:55.900
that you think that are being told on this podcast?
00:43:58.900
Or how do you think men are being fed a message that lacks accountability, if you will?
00:44:02.940
Um, well, I would say that men do tend to go harder, they'll be blunt, you know, there's
00:44:12.480
a, there's definitely a shorter amount of time to tell it straight than beat around the bush,
00:44:18.600
Um, however, there's also this element of, well, feminism, women are, you know, all 304s, and, you know,
00:44:29.320
they, they don't want to get married anymore, they want to have children, and, you know, all of these, you know,
00:44:34.260
Do you think that's true, or do you think that's false?
00:44:35.500
Um, I would say that there is some truth to those things, but it's not all of them.
00:44:42.280
Do you think, I don't, I don't think we'd ever really talk in a monolith when we, when we speak
00:44:46.700
We would never say all women, this or that, but there's just, the, the statistics bear
00:44:51.480
out these, these facts that people are getting married less, women are much less incentivized
00:44:58.780
That's why I think this podcast is particularly interesting, but it gets written off a lot,
00:45:02.640
because what we're, what we're talking about here is dating, and people might, you know,
00:45:07.380
But, just one second, um, when we're talking about dating, that's, that's pair bonding,
00:45:12.220
that's, this is like the seeds of what then creates a flower, which is a family, and then
00:45:16.480
hopefully a thriving jungle, which is a society of, of happy families, and the nuclear family,
00:45:28.120
Now, this is why this podcast, I find it very fascinating and interesting, is because we're
00:45:32.760
kind of, like, reaching around in the dark and wading, wading through the dark and
00:45:37.320
trying to figure out the dating market, which is what is, where we pair bond, and, and what
00:45:42.160
eventually creates a healthy society, so, it can, it's why it can be very chaotic at
00:45:47.600
Well, the good news is that divorce is actually down 18%.
00:45:54.240
Um, they did a study, the census did one, it was way back in 2016, uh, it came up on my
00:46:00.440
feed, um, it said red pill was wrong about divorce, and so it was, um, a whole, it doesn't
00:46:08.060
No, but then I, I, I double-checked, because they did attach a, uh, a link to the census,
00:46:14.000
and so I was able to look at the report myself, and divorces are down, and get this, it's because
00:46:21.040
millennials saw their Gen X boomer parents getting divorced all over the place, and they
00:46:30.560
I'd be very interested to see the numbers of this, because I think that you, what you're
00:46:32.980
probably talking about, I would hesitate to get, to guess, but I'm, I'm going to guess
00:46:36.020
anyway, is that you're talking about new marriages on a shorter time scale, and it's not over
00:46:40.760
Yes, we're talking about new marriage, and they're saying that these millennial marriages
00:46:48.260
No, millennials, um, millennial starts at 1980.
00:46:54.260
Divorces could be down, though, because less people are getting married.
00:46:57.040
Is it, like, based on a percentage of, um, you take 10 people, like, it's, that's a big
00:47:04.760
Less people get married, obviously less people getting divorced.
00:47:07.300
And, and who's to say they're not going to get divorced in the next few years?
00:47:12.740
Aren't we comparing it to studies with, like, much more longevity than, than what we're talking
00:47:18.920
We're talking about just five years in comparison to studies of, like, 30 plus years?
00:47:23.440
A consensus from 2016 is almost a decade, so I don't really know how relevant that is
00:47:28.940
now, because I'm pretty sure that during COVID, we had the highest spike of divorces, and that
00:47:33.880
was only three years ago, so I don't really know how accurate that is.
00:47:40.180
Can you ask the chat if, if they are hearing this?
00:47:53.440
Because they might hear it, but maybe we're not.
00:47:57.060
Brian wants to know if the chat can hear the TTS.
00:48:07.640
You were saying that marriages were down in COVID?
00:48:11.640
No, I think that if my, if I'm correct, they were up.
00:48:19.720
And I don't think you could go in and get a divorce either.
00:48:29.400
I think that there are less people getting married.
00:48:32.860
But the people who are getting married are being very strategic and intentional about it.
00:48:50.360
They've, you know, they've put in some time for what they feel they need or whatever they were missing so they can make these relationships work.
00:48:58.540
And honestly, like, those are going to be, like, at some point we're going to have two different classes in America.
00:49:05.720
There's a lot of data that indicates that the later people get married, actually, the worse off they are.
00:49:13.140
Because if you have a – and there's plenty of studies that show that women who get into their 30s and they've had a bunch of sexual experience and partners and then they eventually get married, they're much more likely to get divorced.
00:49:24.760
So I think that that's actually not a good thing.
00:49:27.700
You just assumed that the women, because they get to 30, that they're going to be –
00:49:32.620
A woman who's 30 is more likely to have more experience than a woman who's 21.
00:49:37.180
I think also less people are going through the court system, too.
00:49:43.520
Because people are very much not – like, that's – the statistics probably go off of the court system and who's going to court to file for a divorce.
00:49:52.120
But there's probably a bigger percentage of people that aren't trusting, like, the government or, like, don't want to pay because that's expensive.
00:49:58.020
Like, you've got people that can't afford to go to get divorced, so it's just a mutual understanding.
00:50:07.620
So the only thing we can know is why we can't do that either.
00:50:10.120
Well, they do have a dozen reports of, like, great divorces.
00:50:13.380
And that's usually with older people where they just don't actually get divorced, but they live separate lives.
00:50:21.860
You mentioned that people are not getting into marriages as quickly, but there was a study.
00:50:30.140
It was only, I think, a few thousand, like, 2,000 men that they did.
00:50:34.980
And they said most of them – and they were in long-term marriages.
00:50:38.160
Most of them knew within, I think, six to eight months whether they wanted to get married.
00:50:42.620
Like, men know pretty quickly if they want to get married.
00:50:46.100
They know if they see the traits that they want in a woman.
00:50:49.560
And I don't have, like, a big following on Facebook.
00:50:53.320
It's a small following, but it's mostly married couples.
00:50:56.400
And a majority of them, whenever I made a reel about that specific topic, a lot of people got mad at me for it.
00:51:06.980
But a lot of the married couples that have been married 20, 30, 40 years were commenting, and they're like, yeah, we got married after a month.
00:51:18.760
I mean, generally speaking, I can only really speak for myself, but I know straight away at least, like, 80, 90% of what I need to know about a woman from dating her for, like, a week.
00:51:29.860
And then after that, it's sort of just weeding out the little things and hoping she doesn't turn into a total psychopath.
00:51:37.160
You know, when you do date for marriage, which I think is an amazing thing.
00:51:40.340
Like, I wouldn't want to get in a relationship.
00:51:45.900
Well, what I was saying is that when you date for marriage, it's a different conversation.
00:51:50.820
You know, usually, like, in today's world, people are hooking up the first time.
00:51:57.060
Or it's considered, like, I've been on dates where someone's, like, sorry to trauma dump.
00:52:02.160
But if you're dating for marriage, that's not trauma dumping.
00:52:13.760
I started a trauma dump and then starts crying.
00:52:18.940
Like, you know, dating for marriage, day one, you're like, this is me.
00:52:25.680
But some people are like, am I talking too much?
00:52:31.340
Especially, I think I'm younger than most of the panel, so I have a different perspective of, like, people my age that are in the dating scene.
00:52:39.720
Were they like, these are all my problems, start crying?
00:52:42.360
Or were they like, hey, this is my baggage, just so you know?
00:52:49.500
I feel like it's different when they say, this is my baggage, I'm working on it.
00:52:53.120
I think that this is just a big problem these days with the conditioning we have around mental illness
00:52:59.400
and the conditioning we have around a lot of the, just basically what's seen as normal, what's seen as regular.
00:53:08.720
And guys should be taught responsibility and they should be taught how to be stoic and how to deal with their own problems.
00:53:14.680
But unfortunately, now, a lot of the time, these guys are being taught that the more messed up you are, the better.
00:53:20.580
The more autism and this and that, and I have blue hair and I'm, like, neurodiverse or whatever they call themselves these days.
00:53:32.720
Unfortunately, it's also seeped into the male population.
00:53:35.220
So, yeah, unfortunately, you guys have to deal with this.
00:53:40.020
Because women are, usually it's a, I worked in treatment, like, rehabs and treatments,
00:53:44.540
and a lot of the percentage of people have actual autism where they don't understand completely, like,
00:53:53.860
Or it's women that, like, when you go by they, them, I'm not saying this for everyone, not saying I, you know, whatever.
00:54:00.880
A lot of that is women that don't want to associate with being a female because of trauma.
00:54:05.740
They're like, no one's going to target me psychologically.
00:54:07.620
I think the problem with the whole transgender movement is, like, a lot of these kids end up being gay when they're older, like, the young guys.
00:54:13.580
A lot of women, you guys will know that when you're a teenage girl, you have a lot of body image issues.
00:54:19.220
And a lot of hormones happening, growing breasts and all these sorts of things.
00:54:24.920
People are, like, looking up to people on YouTube that have blue hair and crying about things.
00:54:29.080
Or the laziness, like, bed-loathing, I think, is a thing right now.
00:54:37.040
Like, I'm going to lay in bed all day for mental health and just, like, be depressed.
00:54:43.460
And then you see that online, you're like, I kind of want to just lay in bed all day and let someone else do everything for me.
00:54:50.280
I think there's a, like, really big problem online with people romanticizing mental illness.
00:54:54.640
And, like, eating disorders especially as well.
00:54:57.060
So, like, people like to promote that kind of content.
00:55:01.800
I feel like with young women, it used to be anorexia, but now it's transgenderism.
00:55:09.740
It's, like, okay to, like, eat as much as you want all day because the body positivity when things are...
00:55:17.340
It's, like, young people are being targeted and being shot with transition, be transgender, be gay, have an eating disorder,
00:55:36.540
I analyze debates, like, long-form debates, break them down into a more sort of palatable format,
00:55:41.120
and then give my own two cents worth and talk about facts and stats and figures and all those sorts of things.
00:55:48.000
What did you think of the recent debate between Kamala and Trump?
00:55:51.520
I thought that Trump missed a few opportunities, but I thought he dominated the entire debate.
00:56:00.700
But the thing is that the bar is so high for him and the bar is so low for Kamala Harris that she can get away with not actually saying anything in the whole entire debate.
00:56:09.100
She didn't say anything that was really a substantive sort of policy position.
00:56:18.820
Trump, when he was, like, quote, failing, like, you had people, like, fact-checking him.
00:56:27.460
Did anybody here at the table think that Kamala won the debate?
00:56:31.320
I don't think she won, but I do think that she got under his skin enough where he was very defensive.
00:56:38.320
I also do believe that she grabbed all the I'm-only-a-debate-watcher voters because a lot of people don't do their research.
00:56:48.380
As much as, you know, maybe you or I or whoever does, a lot of people don't.
00:56:57.540
But in all reality, everything she was saying, to me, it was like she was reading a book.
00:57:03.000
It wasn't, where have you been the last 3.5 years?
00:57:20.400
I think she's well-spoken, and I think she's, like, personable.
00:57:24.220
And to me, I think I also have, like, a familiarity bias.
00:57:28.360
She kind of reminds me of, like, Obama's charm.
00:57:31.220
Is there something that turned you on to her since she's been in office that, you know, was remarkable or something that you think that, you know, is one of your main reasons beyond, you know, what you had just shared?
00:57:48.660
I'm not, like, pro-abortion for myself, but I like that she would give people the opportunity.
00:57:56.140
Because I don't, I wouldn't get one, but, like, I think people should have the right to choose.
00:58:01.340
I just think it would be, like, very traumatic and, like, not the right decision for myself.
00:58:09.100
I don't want metal parts all up in my genital area.
00:58:12.800
So, for you, the abortion is more about the metal parts and how it would hurt you rather than the baby that's inside you?
00:58:22.160
Why would you, if, so you, obviously, you agree that it is a baby, it's a child in the womb?
00:58:28.460
Just, I'm curious, if you wouldn't do it and if you see the moral danger in abortion, then why would you think that it's okay for other people to do it?
00:58:36.640
I think that there are certain circumstances that it might be necessary in, like, if it's life-threatening for a woman to give birth.
00:58:47.680
I mean, if you don't want to, like, give birth to a kid and you're going to put it in poverty, but also, like, maybe just give it up for adoption instead of killing it would be a better alternative.
00:58:55.720
Life-threatening doesn't actually fall really under the category of abortion.
00:59:00.980
I feel like anybody you ask who is for Kamala, the first thing that is always brought up is the abortion stance, and that is the only thing I've heard from Kamala voters.
00:59:17.420
I'm curious, though, to get better than Donald.
00:59:23.340
Just to tie a knot on this one, I feel like the pink pill, you've got a bit of a YouTube channel going on.
00:59:28.660
You've got maybe, it seems like it's adjacent to the red pill, or is it completely opposite to the red pill?
00:59:34.060
Well, it's adjacent to the red pill only because it became that way.
00:59:40.640
When I first came to the internet, I was one of the few black women that encouraged black women to entertain all of their dating options.
01:00:00.680
I think that he diluted a lot of men into thinking that they were high value.
01:00:08.300
I don't think that high value was actually described specifically.
01:00:12.460
It was described as a financial marker and also like your net marker.
01:00:21.160
He said a high value man is somebody who makes over $100,000 or more.
01:00:26.400
He has a network, and it has to be for a few years.
01:00:33.040
He has to have a good network, and he's got to be settled.
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He didn't really talk about character, and there would be a lot of times where he would say,
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I knew him personally just through circling the drain with other folks in the space that
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I'm in, unfortunately, in that part of the YouTube.
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I'm interested because I used to love watching Kevin Samuels' videos, the way that he would
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get these black women on the show, and he would have these arguments with them because
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it's such a different sort of world, the sort of African-American culture, because we don't
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What particularly about it did you feel like he was deluding men about?
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Because there is an element of having resources that does make a guy high value.
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I don't really particularly like that term, but I think that if a man develops resources,
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it is a very positive thing for his perspectives in the dating market.
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Yeah, but you're going to have to give me more on that list than just that he makes six
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Well, Kevin Samuels was also an image consultant, so he talked about dressing really well and carrying
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yourself well, having a network of other men and having purpose and drive.
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So six figures, he can wear a nice suit, and he has some friends.
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That's supposed to be something that I'm supposed to use to choose a husband.
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Well, what would you, if you had to say, if you were in his shoes then, then what would
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I would focus more, first of all, what I think, so if I'm going to be fair, there were a lot
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of women on the show that came on delusional, but I'm not going to pretend that Kevin Samuels
01:02:17.000
The question was, what would you say to men if you had to give them the advice?
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Okay, the first thing I would say is that it starts with your character.
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The measure of a true man is not that he is never afraid.
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It is that he is afraid, or he may, or it may be hard, whatever the task, and he'll do it
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That's someone who has character, someone who has a strong cornerstone of beliefs and
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They cultivate their leadership skills, but they also know how to follow other people and
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So, a guy who's got character and he's able to, what did you say first of all, you said
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he's able to get things done, even if he doesn't always have to feel like he's not scared.
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Yes, the measure of a man is not that he doesn't get scared, it's that he feels the fear and
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The other ones was that he knows how to choose good friends.
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He's mindful of where he wants to go and direction he wants to go.
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Because at what point does actually having a career for a guy come in?
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No, I think that they should be in conjunction with each other.
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I would say that if you are building yourself and developing your resources and a career
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and these sorts of things, those are the characteristics that tend to come along with that for a guy.
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So, if you have to build something from scratch, then you have to be able to work with people.
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You can't be like a piece of shit to be around unless you're sort of some Bitcoin millionaire
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or unless you're some scam artist or something like that, which is a hollow way to live.
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I would say that especially with the rise in STEM, there's lots of people who are working from home,
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who are working in those fields, but they're not getting a lot of interaction.
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So, we can look at the numbers and see that people are not interacting with each other like they used to.
01:05:23.160
Before heads start rolling from trolling, let's get those most embarrassing date and your carnal knowledge stories, please.
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I think that's a good direction to take a show.
01:05:41.240
I'm hoping I was playing around with audio bullshit for like an hour back there.
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Sorry about that for those of you who were sending in some messages.
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No idea what happened there with OBS, but should be fixed now.
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We'll have to get into that later, Kill of Serial.
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Do any of you still feel some type of way about an ex?
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Does their memory still hit you in the feels sometimes, even though you're with someone new now?
01:06:41.780
I'm not with anybody new, but my most recent ex, I still talk to him.
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So you broke up a year ago, but you're still talking to him?
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No, my longest relationship was a year, but I dated him for like eight months.
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When's the last time you guys hung out in person?
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Like when we broke up, we don't like hook up or anything like that.
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No, it wasn't at first, but he moved to Oregon, so that's why we broke up.
01:07:40.100
So you broke up, but you guys talk on the phone every single day?
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No, we don't talk like on the phone, like not a phone call, but we just like text each other.
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I'll ask him how his date went or like what he did or if his date went good and stuff like that.
01:07:55.160
Let's say you meet a guy and he's interested in pursuing a long-term relationship.
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You disclose to him that you talk to your ex nearly every single day in some capacity or another.
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I don't think I would continue being friends with my ex if I was like genuinely considering prospects with somebody because I would find that disrespectful and I wouldn't want that done to me.
01:08:20.520
I'm just curious though, why do you continue speaking with your ex to begin with?
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I don't have to like tell somebody new about all the details in my life.
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Do you think that that might like prohibit you currently with dating prospects?
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I'm happy by myself right now, so I don't really want to like date you.
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How much time do you spend speaking to him in whatever capacity?
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Do you still feel like you have a romantic connection with this person?
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Yeah, probably like two weeks ago or something.
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So you guys, you're single, you guys are broken up,
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I love you as a friend or I'm in love with you?
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So do any of you still feel some type of way about an ex?
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Not an ex, but I guess a man that I've gone on a lot of dates with,
01:10:16.600
Try to rotate both of your fingers in opposite directions at the same time.
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but one forward, one backwards, nearly impossible.
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and I just happened to be out at a bar with some friends that night,
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and I saw the guy that I thought that he could be dating or hanging out with
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because I saw them in a lot of Instagram photos with each other,
01:11:27.540
So, my ex doesn't really do social media or anything like that,
01:11:49.600
He was with another gay, so kind of figured it out.
01:11:53.160
So, was there ever any signs during the relationship?
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Watch some chick flicks with you or anything like that.
01:12:33.160
Well, in college, because we were college sweethearts,
01:12:42.440
that he didn't want to do that with me anymore,
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because I feel like it opens a part of your mind
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and he stopped wanting to do anything like that around me
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probably because he was fearful about conversation,
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and we could never really get deep with each other.
01:13:17.060
He never really wanted to get ready or go out with me,
01:13:20.240
which I think was kind of fitting for the time in my life,
01:13:24.040
building my career as a model and doing all that,
01:13:44.420
but there were times when it was, like, more often than others,
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If you had to count, how many times did you guys have sex?
01:14:10.000
over a seven-year period of time, it could be...
01:14:24.700
I had somebody there in a state where I didn't have any family,
01:14:40.300
how many times did you guys have sex in the seven years?
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I actually also talked to my ex that lives in Oregon as friends.
01:15:52.880
I think I talked about it last time, like, the one a year ago.
01:16:02.480
I don't talk to my ex, but recently I kind of came up on our what would have been our one
01:16:12.180
So the guys that I was talking to, I was like, I don't think that's really appropriate if
01:16:18.740
So I was like, I think I need to take some time for me.
01:16:44.820
We actually had a woman on the show, maybe it was a year ago, who said that, well, kind
01:16:52.480
Have you ever been hooking up with a guy, could even be your boyfriend, all the while
01:16:58.760
you were thinking about a sexual experience that was superior with another man?
01:17:14.640
With, like, any guy that I've been with, I think, was there somebody better?
01:17:18.540
Wait, so every guy you've been with, you've always thought about, while having sex with
01:17:22.420
them, a previous sexual experience, which was superior?
01:17:37.760
The guy that was supposed to have to be better.
01:17:39.480
The guy who's stuck in the back of your head every time.
01:17:43.800
Wait, so while you're having sex with men, you're thinking, this could be better.
01:17:56.040
Well, I mean, she was with a gay guy for seven years.
01:18:01.800
Well, yeah, but she's also saying that she's had this occur with the other men she's had
01:18:11.780
Like, why choose a virgin if you're expecting him to have any experience?
01:18:38.960
Sometimes, since I get with guys and girls, sometimes I'll be with a guy and I'll be like,
01:18:55.060
So, you just wish that you were with a girl in that moment?
01:18:59.480
Because I like a guy to be really dominant, but with women, I don't like them to be as
01:19:10.280
If you want them to be dominant and you're thinking about boobs?
01:19:16.280
You're like, I wish this guy was more dominant with titties.
01:19:19.280
And if he's totally not, I'm like, I feel like you're a girl, so where's your boobs?
01:19:26.360
If you're going to be feminine, at least have boobs, you know?
01:19:38.080
I can't think of, like, a specific situation where I've been with a guy and I'm thinking
01:19:46.000
I mean, it's probably happened, but, like, an actual, no.
01:19:53.320
Not currently, but I can't say for certain that I haven't fantasized about Brad Pitt every
01:20:02.940
I don't know if it, you know, I can't, definitely not with the current one, but I can't say.
01:20:08.080
I can't say for certain that it's never happened.
01:20:15.180
I've never, I don't think I've, I mean, I've had good sex.
01:20:19.780
I've had bad, I mean, sex for guys is like pizza, you know?
01:20:22.480
The thing, I've heard guys say this before where they're, like, having sex with a girl
01:20:31.480
Yeah, when I heard guys say that, I'm like, it's weird, like, wouldn't you want to be in
01:20:40.780
I feel like if guys are doing that, that's like a product of maybe, like, overconsumption
01:20:47.860
Also, going back to the thinking about your ex thing, I don't know if this is just me,
01:21:15.900
We were also young, and I think that that's a little different, but you could disagree with
01:21:22.380
I just mean, like, in ex, like, we're just, like, casually dating people without the title.
01:21:32.800
When a monkey swings from a tree, it grabs onto a tree that it's swinging from, and then
01:21:38.940
it grabs onto the other tree, and as it's swinging onto the other tree, it's still got
01:21:41.560
a hold of the one tree that's monkey branching.
01:21:44.240
I feel like that's what's happening when you're still talking to your ex.
01:21:46.260
You're, like, finding something better, not 100% sure, but not just willing to let it
01:21:50.340
I think you can be on good terms, certainly, with an ex, and have an amicable relationship,
01:21:55.560
amicable breakup, but I'm not going to, like, continue to talk to her after the breakup.
01:22:05.600
I think it's also a bit different for me, too, because of the fact that, like I said last
01:22:11.620
I go to AA meetings, and a lot of my exes are sober as well, so I'll see them around,
01:22:16.280
and it's just, like, friends or mutual still, which makes it a lot more difficult.
01:22:21.460
I also purposely don't go to the same, like, meetings around here as they might, the ones
01:22:26.940
that they might be at, but it's, like, the mutual friends and, like, the community of,
01:22:33.320
Well, we're talking about something different here, so these men that you're seeing in the
01:22:37.000
program or whatever, it's like if you went to the same school and you were in some sort
01:22:43.600
You would essentially, you, to some degree, are forced to interact, to some degree.
01:22:48.500
But most relationships, there's really nothing that continues to bind you together, typically.
01:22:55.060
So in your case, this man doesn't even live near you, right?
01:22:58.160
He's long distance, yet you speak to him almost every day.
01:23:03.120
He's the first person that's, like, ever broken up with me, and I don't, that doesn't
01:23:16.800
I mean, like, you asked last time, or whenever Lindsay was on last time, if people believe
01:23:21.440
in love at first sight, and I, like, think I felt that for him, so it's also hard to get
01:23:44.780
Ladies, would it be okay with your current partner still having pictures of previous
01:23:55.060
Really quick, we'll do a hand raise on this one.
01:23:58.500
Raise your hand if it would be okay with your current partner still, if your current partner
01:24:06.000
still had pictures of an ex on their phone or computer.
01:24:18.000
Like, if you have a kid with someone, you meet your ex, and you all have kids together,
01:24:24.000
Well, so you're saying both explicit pictures and normal pictures, so...
01:24:28.500
Okay, because I have some pictures of my son and his father on my phone, right?
01:24:51.280
If you're dating with intention, there should not be anything that you have to worry about
01:25:02.660
Techno Trooper, thank you for the message, man.
01:25:07.300
Uh, you were saying that your ex, he broke up with you.
01:25:23.820
You asked her if it was an ego thing, and you said no, because it was, like, a love at
01:25:29.000
Oh, you asked if I was dating him since I was 18.
01:25:31.540
We just met my senior year of high school, and then we started dating, like, my sophomore
01:26:05.120
Wait, so is this, like, your first heartbreak, then, realistically?
01:26:08.760
Like, it's the first guy you've, like, genuinely been in love with?
01:26:21.320
Um, what's the nature of your guys' conversation?
01:26:28.000
Like, is there, is there conversation about you guys getting back together?
01:26:45.740
What was the, what was the thing, though, that you said about he was the only guy who
01:26:51.320
Um, I've had boyfriends before, and I was usually the one to break it off.
01:26:57.860
But you said it didn't sit right with you, I think, is what you said, that he broke up
01:27:05.120
I guess I didn't really get, like, closure from it.
01:27:17.480
That seems like perfectly reasonable justification.
01:27:19.980
Yeah, but it's like, I don't know, it's just not enough to make me get over it, I guess.
01:27:31.880
What closure do you need other than him breaking up with you for moving?
01:27:36.580
But what, okay, what if he, what if he were to tell you that the only reason I broke up
01:27:41.260
with you is I don't want to do long-distance relationship?
01:27:52.260
I just think, like, breakups are not always mutual.
01:27:58.520
So, it's, like, hard when it's not a mutual thing.
01:28:01.560
Haven't you done that to the multiple other, all the other guys you dated?
01:28:10.220
I'm not saying it's an unfair thing to do or, like, not a right thing to do.
01:28:13.840
He has, like, complete, um, ability to do whatever he wants.
01:28:18.660
But what other, so you said you don't feel like you've got enclosure.
01:28:31.040
You guys, but you've been, you only dated for one year, right?
01:28:36.040
And it's been a year since you broke up, right?
01:28:40.420
It's a long time to still be, I mean, probably.
01:28:43.540
It took me four years to get over my first love, and I was, like.
01:28:49.020
I'm just, like, a person that really lingers on it on accident.
01:28:55.620
So, perhaps the reason you're not able to get over him is because you've been in constant communication with him for a year.
01:29:04.380
We didn't start talking until, like, a few months ago.
01:29:13.920
Like, if you were to not text him at all, would he still be texting you every day?
01:29:23.140
So, if you didn't at all, would you guys go, like, a few days or a week or a month without talking?
01:29:29.180
I think he'd, like, send me a reel or a snap or whatever.
01:29:56.100
So, maybe you're just sort of getting kept on the line there, you know?
01:30:03.360
It's fun, but then, yeah, sort of, he's still got you for that.
01:30:06.540
But then, couldn't you argue that I'm, like, doing the same thing to him?
01:30:14.220
Because no man is going to let you go if he's in love with you and wants to be with you.
01:30:19.940
Do you think it's realistic to stay long distance for four years?
01:30:28.520
But I'm coming from a different kind of place of it.
01:30:31.400
I don't think that that would be essentially realistic.
01:30:33.720
But I think that there's a way it could be worked out if it was meant to.
01:30:36.980
He can't, like, undo what college he chose to go to.
01:30:47.020
And so it's not, like, an option to do any sort of transferring?
01:30:58.120
Was it sort of the sun in his face and wind in the hair?
01:31:04.540
Like, when I first saw him and he smiled at me, I was like, that's a beautiful man right there.
01:31:20.060
Well, perhaps we can explore it a bit more later.
01:31:33.340
Men who display emotions freely are dangerous and violent-prone.
01:31:36.620
Men must learn to be strong-minded and have discipline from strong male role models.
01:31:56.600
I love the USA, but compared to Japanese girls, the chicks here are so rude.
01:32:00.820
I asked a girl in Tokyo for a coffee date, and not only did she accept, but she also refused
01:32:09.960
So, by the way, if you're interested in Japanese women, that last word that you used is a slur.
01:32:30.680
That's what they called them in World War II when the bombers were coming towards Pearl Harbor.
01:32:34.580
I think he was maybe just trying to fit everything into them.
01:32:40.120
It is a slur, but I don't think, I don't think that was, sure, fair enough.
01:32:45.920
Japanese people, you know what, we should get, we should get some Japanese escorts on
01:32:55.220
I feel like they would be, they'd be pretty nice.
01:32:59.980
But, yeah, we're just some Japanese girls on the, I don't know if we've had like from
01:33:06.180
Japan, any Japanese girls on the show, but maybe in the, we'll see.
01:33:15.660
If she's an escort, you might get more than a bow.
01:33:23.240
I think we're all caught up, caught up on the chat.
01:33:36.000
If you're watching on Twitch, drop us a follow.
01:33:41.960
Also, if you're watching on YouTube, just open up another tab.
01:33:43.880
Go to twitch.tv slash whatever to drop us a follow.
01:33:47.040
We are doing some Twitch exclusive streams on there.
01:33:54.580
Maybe Matty is going to start playing World of Warcraft.
01:34:02.300
So I'm going to get into some of the pre-show notes here.
01:34:14.640
We've got to do Discord, the BTS tab, and then we're going to do the first react that we have.
01:34:25.580
And by the way, guys, by the way, I just want to say, chat, me, Jake, and Madison, we did an IRL stream last night.
01:34:35.060
If you want to watch it, it's on the live tab on our YouTube channel.
01:34:43.800
Okay, so guys, posted the BTS of the kick out from Tuesday on our Discord.
01:34:49.820
Please join discord.gg slash whatever if you have Discord.
01:34:55.600
I'm going to be posting all the hate mail that I get in that hate mail channel.
01:35:01.180
And we're going to be doing some other, a couple other cool things on the Discord.
01:35:06.840
And then pull up that first react that we have.
01:35:37.960
Do you think it's a bit, either a bit of a red flag or an eyebrow raise if a man's hobby
01:35:53.380
I mean, if he's in his mom's basement and he hasn't washed in a week and, you know, his
01:35:59.180
underwear can stand up by itself, it's probably a little bit too much video game playing, in
01:36:10.080
So did you really pay for skins in a video game?
01:36:16.720
And then, because I guess you can, Fortnite, you guys are familiar, right?
01:36:29.660
So we're paying for skins in video games and you guys are paying for skins on your, anyways.
01:37:04.500
I just wanted to, before we get into the pre-show notes.
01:37:19.180
Do you object to men who don't find tattoos attractive on the woman?
01:37:45.700
Do you have, do you have, Jake, do you prefer a girl with a tattoo?
01:37:51.660
So, what would you say to some, well, you have tattoos yourself.
01:37:58.000
It is pretty close to a deal breaker for me, I'd say.
01:38:01.780
Well, I'd say that men wear tattoos a lot better, especially into old age.
01:38:21.580
Isn't that like the New Zealand leaf or whatever?
01:39:08.360
I don't have any tattoos, but Jake, you've got a couple.
01:39:15.600
I just find it unattractive, and I think that women don't wear tattoos as well as guys,
01:39:30.200
And then I do want to pose the question to chat.
01:39:32.440
Chat, do you guys prefer tattoos or no tattoos?
01:39:39.420
Does it matter the amount of tattoos, the quality of the tattoos?
01:39:45.320
My position on this is that I don't think it's a deal breaker, unless it's like a lot
01:39:54.680
But I would say that for most men, I think tattoos, it's either neutral or negative.
01:40:03.620
Now, there's some men who will think it's, like, they might almost have a fetish for it
01:40:12.180
But I think most men, it's neutral or negative.
01:40:16.360
You're never getting into, like, positive, oh, she has a tattoo, I want to date her more.
01:40:21.580
It's either neutral, I tolerate it, or negative.
01:40:27.940
I saw this study, and it had to do with, like, they went with men and women, they did
01:40:33.140
pulls, and for whatever reason, thigh tattoos were more attractive on women.
01:40:40.960
But also, no offense to anyone who has a lot of tattoos, another study said that the more
01:40:48.640
tattoos that you have, the more likely for mental illness.
01:40:52.700
So for me personally, a lot of tattoos is, like, red flag.
01:41:02.260
Austin, if you can pick it up or pull it up, please.
01:41:08.420
We'll pull her up in a sec, but it says, preference of tattoos is higher among people
01:41:15.860
with mental disorders and those likely to come in contact with mental health services.
01:41:32.020
Drug or alcohol abuse and borderline personality disorder are frequently associated with tattoos.
01:41:47.080
Now, to be fair, I think the stigma with tattoos has decreased significantly since 1990.
01:42:01.560
I do think it can be a proxy for mental illness or trauma, so...
01:42:33.120
Yeah, I was just going to say, like, for me, I feel like tattoos are just kind of, like,
01:42:39.200
And, like, my husband, he swears a lot, and, like, kind of, when he talks, he says, like,
01:42:47.840
And I just think it sounds so different coming from my mouth or, like, a teenage girl's mouth.
01:42:52.280
And I kind of look at tattoos like that as well.
01:42:56.580
I'm in the music, so I kind of like my aesthetic, like how it is, like, performing-wise.
01:43:01.140
I think it's, like, aesthetic on me and kind of fits.
01:43:06.460
So, I mean, I know the stigma, and I know it all.
01:43:13.740
I do think that's a good point that you raise, though.
01:43:15.420
I do think tattoos tend to be associated with more rough women who might lean to be, like,
01:43:24.000
And men typically find femininity attractive in women.
01:43:30.760
I'd also say it's, like, when I see women with a lot of tattoos, I tend to see, like,
01:43:37.260
I think there's potentially quite a lot of chaos in your personality if you make big, erratic
01:43:44.100
Whereas I think that with guys, tattoos generally tend to be, like, not a very big deal, you
01:43:50.620
But if you, I mean, some girls really wouldn't like them.
01:43:52.940
But for the most part, I've never had a girl who said to me, I wouldn't date you because
01:43:58.440
I think, like, if you're into tattoos and, like, have them, I think a lot of guys, like,
01:44:04.400
But at the end of the day, it's, like, my friends are tattoo artists.
01:44:09.200
I used to watch videos of, like, the ancient tattooers and everything.
01:44:15.140
I'm, like, look, at the beginning, I looked here and I'm, like, ooh, what tattoo does he
01:44:18.800
And that's kind of what, how my vision of tattoos are.
01:44:22.860
And, like, people see it like, oh, like, you don't put bumper stickers on a Bentley.
01:44:31.380
And all of mine are, like, dot work from different, I've gotten different countries
01:44:36.920
I just, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want my daughter to do it.
01:44:42.840
Do you, it's, oh, just, um, I had a question with that.
01:44:48.480
Like, if a girl has a very cool, detailed, super nice, like, expensive tattoo.
01:44:52.680
As long as I'm not dating her, I can appreciate it.
01:44:56.560
Uh, it's kind of like you don't put a bumper sticker on a Ferrari, you know?
01:45:14.300
I said that's, like, people have been saying that forever.
01:45:28.520
Do you want to pull up the photo of the, what do you think, Jake?
01:45:34.020
Honestly, that's, that's depressing to see that.
01:45:50.560
Like, there's different things besides her tattoos.
01:45:58.780
I have tattoos, but face tattoos and, like, neck tattoos are a jailbreaker for me.
01:46:05.520
Like, and I do appreciate tattoos, but I, I can't do face or neck tattoos.
01:46:08.960
I think it's a red flag if a man has no visual skin on their body and every single part of him is tattooed.
01:46:21.840
I'm like, what are you trying to overcompensate for or get a fulfillment?
01:46:28.140
Like, I wouldn't look at her and be like, wow, that's a cool tattoo that I'd want to, like, analyze and be like, what's the meaning?
01:46:32.620
Like, I, that's why I don't think it's attractive.
01:46:52.940
Uh, you said you had a boyfriend who cheated on you.
01:47:02.560
He told you that she was his ex, he told me that she was his ex-girlfriend?
01:47:09.220
So, he said that, like, he had broken up with his ex when we started talking, and then we started dating, and he was, like, continuing dating her the whole time, and I didn't know.
01:47:23.440
And you said you think that actively watching and engaging with porn is cheating?
01:47:28.760
Um, I think it's, like, engaging in a one-way sex act, and it's, if it's my partner that's doing it, like, that's you going outside of the boundaries of the relationship.
01:47:38.620
And I assume this would apply both ways, right?
01:47:40.320
If a woman were to watch porn, she would also be cheating.
01:47:43.060
Uh, going, opening this up to the panel, do you think that, uh, watching porn while in a relationship is, uh, is cheating?
01:47:58.040
Light, but do you dislike it if your partner were to watch porn?
01:48:01.420
If it's, like, an only fan situation where they're paying the woman, but if they're just watching porn, like, like, that's what I'm saying.
01:48:21.460
I think it's fun to watch it together, actually.
01:48:31.360
I wouldn't put it in the boundary of cheating, but I'd say it's very much undesirable.
01:48:40.320
What would be the, because I don't know if women consume porn at the same rates of men, and there's, like, obviously differentials between men and women here.
01:48:48.140
I wonder if the, perhaps counter to women's disdain for their partners or men watching porn would be women who use social media.
01:49:05.140
Not so much, not used, but, like, overly used social media, have a public profile, and are doing.
01:49:11.180
But it's, like, a gratuitous use of social media for attention, as opposed to needing it for something.
01:49:22.120
If you need it for your work, and if you're, like, into marketing, or if you've got something going on.
01:49:25.880
Like, if you were dating someone, and you're posting on social media like that, that's different.
01:49:34.320
I mean, it doesn't map on 100% one-to-one, but I think men are much more sex-driven, and women are much more attention-driven, and you guys get attention through social media.
01:49:44.880
Yeah, I would actually say that social media for women is, like, what porn is for men, in terms of instant gratification.
01:49:50.500
Because men can just go and get their rocks off straight away, but with women, they can get attention.
01:49:55.340
And, like, those are the two things that we both sort of go towards in terms of instant gratification.
01:50:01.280
I can see that, because they can also be addictive.
01:50:05.820
It completely depends on the context of what you're using.
01:50:09.480
Well, I mean, generally speaking, when we talk about instant gratification for guys, it's, like, a sexual thing, right?
01:50:15.320
If the guys are, like, people call them, like, incels, they're involuntary celibate, then they'll go on porn all the time, just for instant gratification, rather than doing the hard work.
01:50:24.340
But for women, I'd say that attention is the thing that they go towards, in terms of that instant gratification, that actually, like, it sort of sours your character a little bit.
01:50:34.020
But I still think it depends on the context of what you're doing on social media.
01:50:39.040
Like, what if you're posting stuff about your husband or your kids?
01:50:43.740
I'd say, if it's in the parameters of, like, a private account where you've just got family and friends and you're posting about your family, then that's all good.
01:50:52.420
And what if you're talking about, like, niche life experiences?
01:50:57.340
What do you mean, as in, like, going traveling and that sort of thing?
01:51:00.040
As in, like, say, like, recovery-related type of thing.
01:51:06.680
Yeah, so it kind of falls into what I was saying before in terms of having, like, a purpose to use it that's outside of just, like I said, like, gratuitous attention-seeking.
01:51:13.180
I mean, I definitely get, like, that it feels good to get, like, lots of likes or go viral or whatever, but, yeah.
01:51:21.000
But it's more about, like, what's the intention behind it?
01:51:23.980
Because if the intention is male validation, because you say that all the time, right?
01:51:27.560
Like, you'll see a girl who has a boyfriend who's just posting these bikini photos where her ass is out and there's all these thirsty guys.
01:51:34.420
There's literally no need for that if you're in a relationship.
01:51:38.040
And that, for me, would be completely unacceptable.
01:51:41.820
I can see that, but if you're just, like, bikini.
01:51:43.480
But if she's got one of those, like, Instagram pages where she has, like, a little community of women and they're talking about their freaking chakras or whatever,
01:51:50.080
and their dinner dates and their tea parties and shit, like, that's fine.
01:51:54.080
But if it's just, if it's directed towards male attention, which is, then that's different.
01:51:58.000
Yeah, so if it's directed towards male attention, you would say that's equivalent to...
01:52:02.080
Yeah, and DMs would probably be off unless you follow the person, I'd say.
01:52:06.280
So you wouldn't date a lingerie swim model because she'd be close to that.
01:52:17.200
That you can't handle the woman getting attention for her work?
01:52:21.440
No, I just wouldn't want my wife putting her body online for everyone else to see because that should be within the sanctity of my home.
01:52:27.240
Well, what if that's her job to wear stuff like that that draws attention?
01:52:30.720
I wouldn't go towards somebody who has a job where they have to show their body off all the time.
01:52:48.740
Maybe it's not insecure for you, but I think there's a lot of guys who feel insecure from a woman having that job.
01:53:03.260
So a guy who's willing to pass up a woman who, on paper, is so attractive that she's able to do lingerie modeling, swimsuit modeling, he's willing to pass up such an attractive woman, wouldn't that actually be really secure?
01:53:19.540
He's not willing to date her, despite her beauty, because of the work she does.
01:53:26.760
I think Jake's values are in the right place, so I don't see it as insecure.
01:53:31.480
But I think there are a lot of men out there who want that type of woman and can't handle it when they actually date this kind of woman.
01:53:42.620
And I don't really understand the exact reason.
01:53:44.500
Do you think that it's maybe something that's intrinsic within men, that when we have our woman, it's our woman, and we don't want anybody else seeing her body?
01:53:54.000
And there's something that even if you're sort of a guy who says that he's completely fine with it, there's going to be something that grates on you about that, because you've got all of these guys who are seeing your body.
01:54:06.500
You walk down the aisle in your white dress, and your father hopefully gives you away to the guy, and then you become one.
01:54:14.180
And that's the sanctity of marriage, is being able to engage in that sort of relationship with each other where nobody else gets to see your body.
01:54:21.840
Well, I think they get to see you in one way, like in a sexual way with your partner.
01:54:30.840
I don't think modeling needs to be sexualized, just because a woman isn't wearing a full-coverage outfit doesn't mean she's trying to allude to sex.
01:54:41.820
I think there's advertising for lingerie, which I guess you wear lingerie.
01:54:47.120
But the reason why you advertise for lingerie is because it's a sexual thing, and you need to sexualize the lingerie in order to sell it.
01:54:55.540
Swim wear might be a little bit different, but I still wouldn't do it, because just for the mere fact that I wouldn't want everybody seeing my wife's body in that way.
01:55:05.120
But lingerie is a little bit different, because lingerie is a sexual thing, and it's sort of meant to spice up the bedroom.
01:55:10.980
I understand there's a market for it, and I think it would be a healthy thing for couples to engage in that if they want to.
01:55:15.860
But in terms of the modeling side of it, it would just be too much of a – it would just be something that I wouldn't personally go for myself.
01:55:23.400
Is it a broad statement over, like, people that model, like, lingerie and stuff?
01:55:29.400
Are you saying that, like – or are you – sorry.
01:55:32.780
Are you saying that as an overall thing of other people doing it or yourself?
01:55:37.280
Because you – don't you post, like, fully naked pictures online?
01:55:43.080
No, I'm just saying if – I think if you were posting, like, full nudes, which I don't really know if people can post that on Instagram.
01:55:52.500
I think that's being attention-seeking, and you're trying to gain attention from that.
01:56:05.440
Like, when you were talking about him or men being insecure of being a model, like, you said modeling isn't sexual.
01:56:15.000
But what about OnlyFans where it's literally sexual?
01:56:18.940
I just mean, like, campaigns, advertisements that you walk into a mall and see you wouldn't date a Victoria's Secret model because, oh, she's showing off her body.
01:56:29.800
I understand that there would be guys who would take the sexual side of things, and they'd be more willing to have somebody who's really hot and sexy and less about the values that I would hold more dear.
01:56:41.040
But, yeah, for me, it would – the value of sanctity is much more important for me than sexuality.
01:56:46.220
If, like, if a man is comfortable knowing that, like, millions of other men are lusting and looking at his girl in, like, a sexual way, then that – but I think that it's, like, natural for guys to also be possessive.
01:57:07.100
So I think a lot of guys would be not like that because they're possessive of the person that they're with.
01:57:15.620
I mean, I think it's attractive if somebody has that in them.
01:57:18.820
Like, they want to be the only person to see their woman that way.
01:57:21.920
So would you quit your work, then, if somebody asked that of you?
01:57:27.300
What if he provided for you and you didn't have to?
01:57:31.800
But what about if you could do the design part and you could do the marketing part but you didn't have to do the modeling part?
01:57:39.860
You'd take down the OnlyFans and the Instagram photos and everything, private little Instagram, just you and your friends, and you just do –
01:57:48.540
I haven't, but this is a hypothetical question.
01:57:54.180
So shut down anything in terms of public nudity in any regards?
01:57:59.660
And the only reason I'm doing OnlyFans is to self-fund my lingerie business.
01:58:03.640
We launch next February, so we are a startup, and it's very expensive to manufacture.
01:58:13.360
You have your main OnlyFans, and then you have another one, Renee?
01:58:29.900
You literally – she was asking you, and I'm pretty sure you said you don't do nudity.
01:58:37.400
I said on OnlyFans, but maybe it got miscommunicated.
01:58:44.440
Well, I'm seeing – I've pulled up your OnlyFans here, and it says,
01:58:48.620
my VIP club allows you to get exclusive content weekly, in-depth conversations with me daily,
01:58:54.180
access to my pussy, and naughtiest content, customs, private lives, VIP.
01:59:11.860
You want to walk back some of the things you've been saying a little bit here?
01:59:17.420
So Jake here was saying he wants his woman to be his.
01:59:28.480
So he doesn't want other people to have access to his woman's pussy,
01:59:38.780
I was just speaking of the terms of modeling and the modeling side of the things I'm doing.
01:59:44.600
Right, but you were like – the frame here was like you were kind of talking about yourself to some degree.
01:59:52.320
Right, but you weren't letting on the full scope of your online content creation.
01:59:57.480
Well, that's why I was confused, and I asked you if it was like a broad thing of like women or like more specifically you,
02:00:02.340
because if you're talking about lingerie, like that's one thing like with other women,
02:00:07.180
but I thought with you, you meant – I got confused on that.
02:00:11.800
Do you think that a guy would be insecure if he saw that and said that he doesn't want to date you?
02:00:18.160
Oh, do I think – I think that would make him insecure and he wouldn't want to date me.
02:00:21.960
No, do you think that if you were dating a guy, went on a first date, and you said,
02:00:25.580
I've got this OnlyFans, he looked it up and saw that, and he said, oh, sorry, I don't want to date you,
02:00:35.500
Like I can't say whether the guy's insecure or not.
02:00:40.940
I don't think it has so much to do with insecurity.
02:00:46.800
Do you think that – because the way that I see it is that if a guy sees that
02:00:50.780
and he does engage with dating a girl like that, I would see him as actually very insecure
02:00:54.820
because he's just allowing that to be all over the internet.
02:00:58.980
And I'd say that a secure man has very firm boundaries,
02:01:01.380
and the boundaries would be no, you cannot get naked and talk about your pussy on the internet.
02:01:08.540
So I'd say that that's actually very secure and someone who's firm in their boundaries.
02:01:17.400
With that in mind, though, in terms of your own dating prospects,
02:01:22.420
why would you do that if you are looking to engage in something serious in the future?
02:01:27.340
Because I have a business that I'm starting and I make a lot of money through my OnlyFans
02:01:37.440
So do you think that your business is more important than potentially having a family?
02:01:44.720
Is money over – you'd be happy to be single for the rest of your life as long as you have your lingerie business?
02:01:49.060
As long as I have my lingerie business, I don't care about meeting anybody or having –
02:01:56.440
Do you think that that will fulfill you long term?
02:02:28.820
Wait, what does your mom think about the whole prostitution thing?
02:02:36.360
Well, it is a form of prostitution if you're accepting money.
02:02:38.840
I'm not saying you're a streetwalker, but I'm –
02:02:47.740
Selling your body and getting money is 100% prostitution.
02:03:13.360
because I'm really proud of, like, the type of photos
02:03:17.200
So, yeah, I mean, she doesn't have anything negative to say.
02:03:31.980
So I don't really know, like, what else I could do besides –
02:03:46.080
But when we do launch, I'm sure that will be the case,
02:03:50.040
Also, just to clarify on the prostitution thing,
02:03:52.800
the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity
02:04:15.860
What would be the respectful way to describe it?
02:04:17.760
Because I don't think women who do OnlyFans are prostitutes.
02:04:20.740
I mean, is Cardi B a prostitute because she has an OnlyFans?
02:04:25.240
But I don't think all these celebrities who are on there are prostitutes.
02:04:35.340
and a bunch of other types of entertainers who aren't prostitutes.
02:04:40.580
Don't you think that's a little bit of an insecurity thing, though?
02:04:43.640
Like, being called something, like, a prostitute?
02:04:50.920
like, wouldn't that be insecure where you got, like,
02:05:03.060
to where I could have a bunch of money to start my business,
02:05:07.540
so I have a great platform to start something like an OnlyFans.
02:05:16.020
if you've got such a big platform on Instagram?
02:05:18.320
Couldn't you just start small and just work your way up,
02:05:20.820
work with influencers, get a digital marketing agency,
02:05:32.160
We started from the bottom, and we've just had to grind,
02:05:41.640
Fast money comes with fast consequences as well.
02:05:58.080
won't want to be with you because of that past.
02:06:11.720
I wouldn't choose a person who had a problem with that.
02:06:17.360
and I wouldn't choose somebody who had a problem.
02:06:23.980
and if somebody wants to have children with me,
02:46:30.200
just gave him a song and I'm like he was like does
02:46:32.600
this mean you love me and I was like yeah oh okay so
02:47:03.300
stay alive keep life in perspective live within
02:47:13.640
really appreciate the message good to see you in
02:47:15.600
the chat actually while thank you for reminding
02:47:21.580
you asked originally we're now finally getting to
02:47:53.140
not really embarrassing okay what about you? I've
02:47:54.760
answered it do you want me to answer again? Yes. The
02:47:59.140
same story of the girl was horrible and I had to
02:48:14.380
I don't really have any embarrassing ones. Can you
02:48:20.860
think of any. Okay. EJ. 19 maybe 18 years old he
02:48:27.800
gave me a joint and it was the first first joint I'd
02:48:44.500
is your brain on drugs and so we're on a date he
02:48:50.700
so paranoid I thought my brain would turn into a
02:48:54.080
scrambled egg and so we were in Long Beach and I
02:48:56.620
was running across the bridge trying to get the
02:48:59.680
weed out of my system so I could be normal again and
02:49:02.780
he was running after me going wait wait so yeah that
02:49:07.320
was probably the most embarrassing. What about you? Okay so like when me and my husband we
02:49:15.300
had taken a break and then like when we we were not doing we were dating at the
02:49:20.340
time and then we got back together and my best friend kept asking like when we
02:49:23.900
were gonna finally you know do the deed and anyways when it finally happened I
02:49:28.840
sent like a long detailed text to her the next day and realized that I
02:49:32.220
accidentally sent it to his sister it was very embarrassing and what can you tell
02:49:41.100
us the content of the text message yeah I was like oh we finally you know did it and
02:49:46.740
it was really really great but then this embarrassing thing happened but he was
02:49:51.120
really cool about it and I. Queef? Was it a queef? No. That's always embarrassing. Did
02:49:59.060
you get your period? This is so awkward. This is embarrassing. Um no it brought about um you
02:50:05.460
know cycle and so yeah it was just really awkward for the that was awkward but
02:50:11.060
telling his sister. Awkward. Meaning to text. Yeah it's bad. Okay. Is period sex awkward? I wasn't though it didn't like it was the first time we had hooked up in a really long time and I wasn't expecting that. So yeah it was awkward. And it is absolutely awkward to have period sex. Disagree. Disagree. Yeah uh huh. All right. Tell that to somebody who has fibroids.
02:50:40.060
How's what? I'm sorry. Never mind. No I didn't hear you. Is there another topic we can do?
02:50:46.440
Yeah. You wanted the embarrassing story. Yeah so um let's see here. Um okay so we're gonna go to uh Stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten. You can't pick seven. Starting with you go ahead. Um six. Okay. 9.87.
02:51:10.060
Okay. All right. Troll answer but okay. After hearing what you had to say I have to change my answer to. What did you say last time? I said a nine because I'm confident and I'm still working on myself. That's why I don't think I'm a ten but I'm gonna switch it to eight. Like not that I got lower or lower confidence since last time.
02:51:27.240
Mm-hmm. But I can never stop improving so. Yeah. What about you? I'm gonna say eight. Okay.
02:51:35.240
Is five supposed to be the middle? So using this scale five would be average. Five would be average than two. Okay.
02:51:44.060
I'm gonna say a five. I'm just your average 51 year old black girl. Mm-hmm. Okay. Um yeah this is a hard question being pregnant and stuff but I would say probably like 5.5.
02:51:58.860
I think you're higher than that girl. You're giving life.
02:52:02.740
What about six? I give myself a five. Uh okay so you gave yourself a 9.87. Uh Stifler has a follow-up question. Uh total face body.
02:52:14.540
So break it down total face body. So 9.87 total. Uh what do you do for face? What do you do for body?
02:52:21.160
I have to add those up to equal that? I don't know. No just maybe you say my face is a 9. My body's a 10.
02:52:28.100
I don't know. My face is a 9. I think my body's a 10. What was the other?
02:52:37.840
No that's it. All right going around the table once more. Do you think you'll be better looking?
02:52:47.620
I will be 30 so no. Okay. You're 28. Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 38?
02:52:53.780
Yes because I really put a lot of emphasis on my health. Okay. Uh what about 20 years time?
02:52:57.940
Yes. So 48 better looking? 48 yeah. Uh 30 years time better looking at 58? Yeah. Then you are now at 28?
02:53:07.120
Mm-hmm. Okay 40 years time better looking at 68?
02:53:10.340
No but I think like going back I'd probably be like equal to what I am now. At 68? At 68 you'll be equal? No at 58. I think 68 I'll probably start getting some wrinkles.
02:53:23.060
At 68 you'll start getting some wrinkles? Yeah. Um so but 38 equal or better looking? I think I'll always be equal if not better because of everything I do for my health.
02:53:36.340
Which is what? I do a lot of biohacking like red light therapy. I exercise a lot. I eat a perfect diet. I don't eat any seed oils.
02:53:47.000
Okay and uh are you better looking now at 28 than when you were uh when you were at 18?
02:53:51.960
100 percent. 100 percent okay um so equal looking uh 28 compared to 38 48 58?
02:54:00.580
Mm-hmm. Okay so in 30 years time just as good looking? Yeah. You won't have any wrinkles?
02:54:08.120
Probably very few. Very few wrinkles at 58? Yeah. Generally speaking when do you think women are most attractive?
02:54:16.380
Whenever they feel like they're most attractive. But generally speaking on a global sense when we're thinking about how the world thinks about it not how they feel?
02:54:23.420
Younger. Yeah. So when you're talking about it are you talking about in the way that the world sees it or the way that you subjectively see it?
02:54:30.020
Well it's it's hard to say because when I was 18 I didn't I was by the world's standards not as attractive as I am now.
02:54:38.400
But you you can you can be aware of that though right? You can say that you're more attractive now.
02:54:44.640
I haven't seen you at 18. Maybe you were fat when you were 18 or something like that.
02:54:48.340
But you're you can when you're saying that you're going to be as attractive in 30 years.
02:54:52.600
Mm-hmm. Are you saying that from the way that the world sees you or the way that you see you?
02:54:56.920
I'm saying that from the way the world sees me.
02:54:58.580
You genuinely think that you as a 58 year old woman will be as attractive as you are as a 28 year old woman?
02:55:03.880
Yeah I think the same number of guys will still want me or I think I'll be as desired.
02:55:08.800
I think that that kind of makes a lot of sense to me when you say that because the whole delaying or like not wanting to have a family wanting to put career first and wanting to sort of ride this wave of the lingerie stuff that you've got going on.
02:55:20.520
It makes total sense when you think about it in the sense that you think you're going to be still hot in 30 years.
02:55:25.400
The fact of the matter is that nobody's really hot at 58 and as a woman ages you need to age gracefully because if you're 58 trying to hold on to being hot you're going to be very very unhappy.
02:55:35.880
But if you're 58 and you've got a family and you get your value through being a mother and through these sorts of things then you can actually maintain a lot of value and dignity in these things.
02:55:46.020
But if you're trying to be hot and that's your number one goal.
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A model I'll have a company I'll be running the company I'll hire models and I hope that I do have that for myself I hope I have it all loving husband family business.
02:56:16.020
Oh what about you better looking in 10 years time.
02:56:19.060
I think I'm going to peak in like five years and then I five 10 years so like 30 and then like you kind of just said I think I won't I hopefully won't care as much like I still want to put effort into like maintaining health and all of that.
02:56:33.960
But less worry about like dressing like you know I feel like I dress like a normal 20 year old.
02:56:49.660
I'm definitely in better shape now than I was 10 years ago so in my 20s.
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I think in my 40s I hope that I will still be in good shape and I'm good at taking care of my body.
02:57:04.740
And then after that it's just the natural progression of things.
02:57:08.920
Stuff is going to be loose and I'm going to have wrinkles and that's okay.
02:57:16.580
I mean youth is beautiful but so are all the stages.
02:57:21.860
I think I was definitely at my peak at 28 right or 28 I just aged myself at 26 and at 36.
02:57:31.160
I mean I think at 46 I will be better than 36 just because I'm hard on myself but you know I'm working on just some fitness goals.
02:57:41.760
Do you think you'll be trying to maintain or trying to be better?
02:57:52.320
It's quite a bar to set yourself to be more attractive when you're 46.
02:57:55.260
I think it's like not that I'm not sitting here and saying oh my god I hate my body.
02:58:02.520
But I am doing a little bit different you know with how I'm taking care of my body and what I put into it.
02:58:12.960
And you know I was pregnant and I had a child that was you know that was a huge huge huge transition.
02:58:23.180
And so I well you guys haven't seen my mom so she's beautiful.
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And I'm very blessed so I do look a lot like her and I just I'm not trying to maintain in a pressuring standpoint.
02:58:35.300
It's more so just like my personal goals within myself.
02:58:39.480
But if I were to look at a whole figure you know how does how does everyone else see me?
02:58:44.360
Well of course the youth is the younger you are the more attractive you are.
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Even for guys as well I mean you look at like a young Johnny Depp you know.
02:59:03.180
But don't you think like physically just in terms of like the aesthetic attractiveness don't you think that guys tend to not like maybe in their 30s they can be really good looking but in their 40s and 50s do you think they get better looking?
02:59:19.140
Okay I'm not attractive to men of his age but if I were to take younger George Clooney and George Clooney now he is far more attractive in my eyes now than he was then.
02:59:29.040
Like he's an anomaly though and do you think generally guys tend to let themselves go a little bit as they get older.
02:59:37.780
But I think I think I think age looks well on men though even if they have some wrinkles and like facial hair gray hair you know ask me when I was younger sure you know of course like I would think that way but I don't enjoy it.
02:59:58.360
Well no that's what I'm saying I'm I'm I'm giving you my opinion on like me and where I'm at right now of course when I was like 18.
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Do you have another OF that goes something along.
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Do you have another OF something Brinkley have you gone by that name?
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That was it used to be the name of the one we already discussed.
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Well somebody just sent me a video of you doing precisely that boy girl content.
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So are you going to continue lying or are you just going to fess up that you're pretty much just lying about everything?
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It's literally your you just admitted that it was your OnlyFans tag.
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So you're just going to continue lying even though I have.
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Here I'm going to show it to Jake and Jake can tell me what he.
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I think it's a good time to get up and go to the bathroom.
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Yeah well it's actually a little bit hard to tell.
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You could kind of see your face and what was about to happen.
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Yeah I didn't see the rest but I'll take Brian's work for it.
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Could it have been someone like screen recording it?
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I mean it's just like why are you fucking lying about it?
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Okay so the video depicts you giving fellatio I think is the term to a male.
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You know you've never had a video of you doing that?
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Do you want to just stop fucking gaslighting and just admit it?
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Like it's so fucking weird when girls come on and do this shit but whatever.
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Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time?
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And then you're 36 where you're better looking at 26?
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So better looking now at 36 than you were at 26?
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And then going to you you're also 36 better looking in 10 years time?
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I think that at this point in time at 46 I will look better to what I want to look at.
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20 years time will you be better looking at 56?
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And were you better looking at 26 than you are now at 36?
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Um, I think you're typically better looking when you're younger.
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I think I was better looking when I was 26, but I have been on a weight loss journey.
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So I think by 46, I'll probably look better than I am right now.
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Assuming that you, uh, let's just say you had a perfect body fat percentage your entire
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Uh, would you be better looking, uh, younger, okay.
03:05:38.400
Were you better looking at 24 than you are now at 34?
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I don't think it was too delusional on the ratings, but the whole better looking as you
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The only thing I know that if you're just looking at looks, but I think whenever I see
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women, especially moms, and I just think that there's beauty in that after they've had,
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you know, kids and the more kids that they have, it's just something there, there is
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something beautiful about that, but, but I, I do agree with the physical part of it.
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The value of women, wisdom and, you know, fulfilling maternal duties and all that sort of thing.
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But like physically to the rest of the world, I mean, every child that I've had.
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Physically attractive is very different to the value.
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It's just kind of interesting that people don't realize how aging works, but I don't
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Why can't people just be like, yeah, people are typically better looking when they're
03:07:10.140
Who said that you don't, or that you're not better looking when you're younger?
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Several females here at the panel said that they were, they're in their prime now, in their
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mid thirties, and then they said they would be even better looking in their forties.
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I just think that my personal goals that I have is going to flourish me when I am 46 versus
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My personal goals within my fitness or my body as an individual.
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But society speaking, if we were to go on that end, youthful is more attractive, and
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So, I mean, I do have two different answers because I can't speak for society.
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So, if I'm going to rate myself, that's what it is.
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I mean, I guess that's also kind of the reason why I said what I said.
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So, at 26, I was very tired, overweight, had a toddler and a baby, didn't have time to go
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to the gym, take care of myself, all that stuff.
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So, I do feel physically better now that my kids are older, and I have the ability to get
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through all of those things that I need for myself to take care of myself.
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I was, but I was, like, using hard drugs when I was in my early 20s, and I still can look
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back and see, I mean, I feel like I've probably gone wrinkled just sitting at this table.
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Like, I can still look back and see that, you know, even then, at least for male attention,
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you know, there's something just with youth that guys equate to beauty more than anything
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I said five years later, but I'm also 20, so, I mean, I'm working on my health.
03:09:07.180
Stats say that it's between 20 and 24 is when a woman is most physically attractive.
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So, the studies say in terms of what guys find most attractive.
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Do you think that the average 35-year-old woman is hotter than the average 25-year-old woman?
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It's just that the darker skin you have, you age more slowly.
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Yes, you do, but you age more slowly in comparison.
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And age generally tends to equate to attractiveness.
03:10:01.700
Yes, but if you compare a 25-year-old white girl and a 35-year-old black woman, if we average 10 years...
03:10:13.820
Oh, I thought you were just talking about the average, the average.
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Even if it was, even if you had to sort of equal it out between all the races, on average, do you think that they would be?
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Do you think that the average 25-year-old black girl is more attractive than the average 35-year-old black girl?
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You look amazing, but you're saying you didn't look better at 25?
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I don't think that I looked better when I was 25.
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But what I'm saying is that it depends on your skin.
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The darker skin you have, the more slowly you age.
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Because we're talking about being more attractive when you're 35 than you were when you're 25.
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I'm saying that a 25-year-old and a 35-year-old with darker skin would be on par.
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I actually sent Brian a picture of me 12 years ago.
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When you say that difference, you're saying that...
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Yeah, but that was me when I was like 30-something.
03:12:14.180
Well, okay, she can still look pretty now, but, I mean, we're doing a comparison here.
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We're going to get into some of the pre-show notes here, finally.
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We talked about this last show, the different pronunciations gets people in trouble.
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You're a virgin, and you said you find it pretty uncomfortable when the man has a high body count,
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So, you will not, even if it's like the guy, you're like, I know I'm going to marry this guy,
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you'll still wait until you're married to have sex?
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So, you're waiting until marriage, just to be clear.
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And was this an issue in your previous relationship?
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You'd like your husband to be a provider if you're going to have children with him.
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You intend on pursuing a career, but I don't want it to be necessary.
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You said you wanted to be an attorney, correct?
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You just prefer for it to be beneficial, as in I would not like for the household income
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to depend on me, but I wouldn't mind adding to it.
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I think that social media has exacerbated an issue within the dating world.
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I will not go on a date if a man does not give me enough notice.
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Asking the night before or day of is immediate.
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Let's go into the you prefer more traditional relationships.
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If your husband had the means, and so let's say he was a higher earner, and he said, well,
03:14:26.700
I don't want you to work, would you go along with that?
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If I thought that my kids could go through college and get cars.
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So, even though you do have some career aspirations, if your husband was capable of providing to
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a degree where you could stay home, you'd be fine with that.
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Maybe the only quarrel, I don't know if it's even that big of a concern for me, although
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Andrew would probably like it, do you consider yourself traditional in all regards?
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I'm a Republican, but I am voting for Camelot because I don't like Trump.
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What is your political persuasion, would you say?
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Because I think he's a threat to our democracy.
03:15:59.760
No, I can't quote exactly what he said, but he did that.
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He said, we're going to go down to that, and we're going to be peacefully marching.
03:16:15.700
Like, if you don't like Trump, that's one thing.
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But why would you vote for a Democrat if you're a Republican?
03:16:20.860
Because I think she's a good option, and I think she has the potential to improve our country.
03:16:27.260
So just to be clear, it's not that you just don't want to vote for Trump, and that you just don't like...
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Like, you want her in there over Trump, essentially.
03:16:46.220
I think it's possible to not like a particular representative.
03:16:51.880
So what do you think about the fact that she didn't have to be nominated?
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I do think that's an interesting, like, loophole.
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That's the only way she got into office was, here she goes.
03:17:11.980
Well, but that's how that works when the president steps down, the vice president steps up, and that's...
03:17:19.920
And the president is still the president of the United States right now.
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I think people should be able to have abortions if they want them.
03:17:38.920
Drag queens reading stories to children in school?
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I think she just doesn't want to get cancelled online, but she's saying...
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Without using the word woman, can you give a definition?
03:18:15.900
A trans woman, a biological male, who transitions to becoming a woman, would that be a woman?
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I mean, look, I can understand, like, you have objections to Trump or whatever, but...
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Because I don't want to sacrifice the vote for Trump.
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She's going to get the Piper vote in California anyway, so...
03:19:09.020
But you want to do a disservice to your own party that you claim you are?
03:19:32.320
Not answering those questions is what affecting our...
03:19:43.740
This is a discussion about who she's voting for.
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I think you've had too much programming from Twitter or something.
03:19:56.320
Do you think that Biden, the past four years, did better than Trump?
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And, you know, he didn't threaten the democracy.
03:20:09.780
Do you maybe just not know, like, the statistics?
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But it's better to say that instead of just, like...
03:20:16.520
And said he was competent and amazing and wonderful.
03:20:19.580
The same way Mike Pence backed up everything Trump did?
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We wouldn't want Mike Pence to be the president.
03:20:26.220
Okay, but just because I'm a Republican doesn't mean I need to blindly follow everybody in the party.
03:20:29.940
There's, like, distinctions that you can make about the values of who you're voting for.
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I'm not going to vote for somebody who says he's going to grab women by the pussy.
03:20:40.240
Do not have anything to do with being a leader of the country when you are weighing out the facts of the best for the American people.
03:20:49.400
I think Katie Hopkins said it best when she said,
03:20:51.520
I'd rather have someone grab me by the pussy than have a pussy for president.
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I would rather have a woman for president than that.
03:20:59.220
Why would you rather have a woman for president?
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You said that somebody said they would rather be grabbed by the pussy.
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I would not rather be sexually assaulted than have a female represent the country.
03:21:16.840
Like somebody who's not a strong leader is what they're saying.
03:21:22.800
Do you think that Kamala Harris is genuinely like a good political strategist and somebody who has the kind of mind and the kind of qualities that could run a country in a competent way?
03:21:34.520
Um, I don't know if I know, like, enough about her to say that entirely, but I think from what I've seen, yes.
03:21:43.680
Do you know, like, from what you've seen, what are some of the strong points?
03:21:48.460
You guys are so putting me on the spot for my political views.
03:21:50.680
No, you just said you don't want to blindly follow Trump, and it kind of seems like you're blindly following Kamala.
03:21:58.820
I've seen things that she said, and I agree with things she says.
03:22:06.160
Like the abortion thing, but you guys are going to get on my ass about saying that I'm pro-choice.
03:22:11.820
Or just give your, your views on it, and just let the conversation flow, because you could say, I could say something, or any of us could say something, and you can come right back and say you disagree with it.
03:22:23.200
But to make such a strong statement, like, I'm a Republican, but I'm voting for, for Kamala Harris, that is me, me hearing that, I'm like, what?
03:22:38.160
No, when it's somebody who really, really values...
03:22:45.140
That's where this entire panel that's talking to you about it is trying to understand your reasoning, because that doesn't make sense.
03:22:53.540
It doesn't make sense to vote a sexual assaulter into office, either.
03:22:59.680
Do you reckon that is, even if that were true, do you think that that would, um, affect the way he runs a country and leads a country?
03:23:07.520
Yeah, I think it represents how he feels about...
03:23:09.520
And the way he talks with Russia, and the way he talks with China, and the way he doesn't get people into, into wars, and the way he treats the border and the economy, and the way he treats the education system, and taxes?
03:23:24.780
It affects the way he feels about an entire gender.
03:23:27.200
If he is sexually assaulting people, then he...
03:23:29.280
So what I said was, how does it affect the border?
03:23:31.300
How does it affect his relationship with Putin, and Xi, and Kim Jong-un?
03:23:44.120
And by the way, that's not a very heinous comment.
03:23:47.460
If you ever, if you hear the way the guys talk when girls aren't around, it's really nothing.
03:23:53.340
So I have to accept that because it's not quite normal for you guys?
03:23:56.540
I know that you guys probably wouldn't with your girlfriends.
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I know what you girls get up to behind closed doors.
03:24:04.260
Can you make an assumption about my character without knowing?
03:24:08.600
Okay, maybe you're a perfect little angel who has never said anything bad in your life.
03:24:12.280
And if you are, then I'd be very, very proud to be in this room with you right now.
03:24:18.540
And when guys get together, when we're behind closed doors, in boysy situations, shit gets
03:24:27.440
And I don't want to say, like, do I love what came out of his mouth or what has been said?
03:24:33.060
But if I have to put on the table of my future, my son's future, and weighing out the pros and
03:24:41.240
cons between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump being president, take away all of the opinion
03:24:51.400
You 100% would never go for Kamala Harris over Trump with the policies and the better good
03:25:00.640
or, excuse me, greater good for the country when it comes to our border.
03:25:05.720
The amount of American people that are not able to take care of their own livelihood because
03:25:17.940
And I don't know what words I can say, so I'm trying to articulate as best as I can.
03:25:27.120
Now, do I have a problem with people coming in, you know, coming from other countries?
03:25:34.240
If we want to go out of town, we have to go get a passport.
03:25:52.780
You guys have a very robust immigration system unless you go through the southern border.
03:25:55.780
Yeah, isn't that so weird that when you're trying to do things legally, it takes like
03:26:00.240
I was trying to get citizenship here, but then it would have cost me like 50 grand to do it
03:26:03.560
with lawyers and accountants and setting everything up.
03:26:07.200
You would have got free health care if you just walked through the...
03:26:08.920
I think that I'd be a pretty productive citizen, but instead they've got freaking Javier just
03:26:13.900
And that's the thing, and it's really unfortunate, and there's so much more, you know, look at...
03:26:19.780
And like you were saying about Robert Kendi, is like, the speech he gave when he was endorsing
03:26:28.380
Trump, I teared up, and it was because, like, he articulated his words so profoundly when
03:26:33.280
it came to talking about what our children are eating, what's going on in big pharma,
03:26:41.180
And for him to endorse Trump, regardless if it was like a no choice, is huge because he's
03:26:49.000
also going in with such a strong role coming from an incredible belief system.
03:26:56.240
We don't have that when it comes to Tim Walton and Kamala Harris.
03:26:59.960
And these are just the little factors that are displayed on mainstream media.
03:27:04.220
But even if you go deeper into it, take away the opinions, take away from feeling offended
03:27:13.980
Donald Trump and going with Trump is 1,000% better for you, better for me, better for the
03:27:21.660
Anyways, I don't think we're going to convince her, but I do have some little more details
03:28:04.640
Look, it might not be 100% confirmed here, but I've, the same people who sent me the video,
03:28:11.240
it's your, it's your matching tattoo, they're also claiming that you were involved in escorting.
03:28:17.980
I don't know why somebody would be claiming that.
03:28:20.620
In which you were charging $1,800 for a one-hour coffee date, $3,000 for a lunch date, $5,000
03:28:28.280
for a dinner date, $8,000 for a overnight date, plus $500 trip to the islands, $500 plus
03:28:50.600
Somebody's, did someone just text you there, or was it like a, on paper type of thing?
03:28:55.900
It's not fair when people just submit a comment, and then you call me a liar about it, because
03:29:02.700
I mean, I literally, it's literally a video, the first video, the escorting stuff, I'm still
03:29:10.660
The video is of you with the, show it, you can show us your tattoo again.
03:29:23.640
You are giving a male fellatio, but you're denying that it's you.
03:29:30.000
You claim that you had not done porn or any boy-girl content.
03:29:34.720
So, I mean, it's fair to assume that you're lying.
03:29:37.660
It's fair to assume that you're also lying about the escorting.
03:29:47.040
I'll post the, I can't do it right now, because I don't have Discord on my laptop.
03:29:50.540
I'll post all the, if you guys want, discord.gg slash whatever.
03:29:55.960
Obviously, we can't show it on stream right now, but you're just not even going to cop?
03:30:02.020
Well, whatever evidence you're saying there is.
03:30:11.820
I know I signed a release, so you probably can, but that's false information.
03:30:18.500
That is really awful to do to somebody who is starting a business to claim you're going
03:30:22.420
to put a false escorting ad out there of me on a Discord link.
03:30:28.440
I was going to post the other thing which you're lying about.
03:30:30.860
I'm a young entrepreneur, and that is not fair to post some claim about me.
03:30:35.240
Well, it's not fair for you to come on the show under false pretenses and make all these
03:30:40.840
I feel like I'm being very true to myself and very truthful in everything I believe in,
03:30:48.240
I'm coming here completely open on my thoughts, even though people disagree about them.
03:30:52.500
I'm coming here being honest, but you're denying.
03:30:58.520
Why is it to say that somebody in the comments is telling the truth, and I'm not?
03:31:08.960
He said there was nothing even happening in this video, so I don't know what you're talking
03:31:15.000
And he said something looked like it was about to happen.
03:31:19.180
It's a girl in a hoodie, a girl with a tattoo like that, and I'm taking Brian's word about
03:31:22.840
what happens next, but I'll also take your word.
03:31:26.800
I guess we can all just take each other's word.
03:31:37.120
I have millions of followers across all platforms.
03:31:40.900
I wouldn't be surprised if somebody makes false allegations about me, but I'm asking just from
03:31:52.180
Do not post that of me on a Discord, though, is what I'm saying.
03:32:03.960
I don't know how that's relevant, but no, it's not.
03:32:07.680
Well, I was thinking if you could find out if it's a friend or not.
03:32:26.620
Well, I don't appreciate people coming on the podcast and lying about things.
03:32:31.540
I've been very open about everything you've asked me.
03:32:44.940
Anyways, Alvin, Sam, ladies, can I have you read it?
03:32:49.300
Ladies, if a woman aborts, is the husband morally justified for divorcing her and not paying alimony?
03:32:55.760
Last year, DeSantis eliminated permanent alimony.
03:33:00.460
And do you want me to be the first to answer that?
03:33:05.320
Um, I think if the husband didn't want the abortion, then yeah, 100%.
03:33:11.720
Oh, I'm so, I'm so, like, distracted by the previous conversation.
03:33:54.600
I mean, it kind of just, like, honestly, if you just said, I feel like if you had just
03:33:58.300
said, yeah, I used to do BG stuff, but I don't do it anymore or whatever, but, like,
03:34:02.460
the fact that you denied it just invited a bunch of people to be like, no, actually,
03:34:09.460
And it just invited people to investigate the false claims.
03:34:15.520
I can see why you feel, because I think, Brian, I think of the seven shows that I've done, I
03:34:20.180
think we've had three girls who have told, like, really egregious lies.
03:34:24.660
And then we've kind of backtracked and felt sorry for them, and one of them was crying
03:34:33.300
And it's like, now, then we look like the dickheads.
03:34:35.060
So it's impossible in this situation, because if we don't know 100% the truth, then somebody
03:34:42.860
Well, I mean, I'm receiving substantial amount of evidence from a couple people here.
03:34:49.560
So escorting links, I mean, the escorting thing I'm still not 100% on, although it appears
03:34:58.240
I'm sure people use my photos on the internet all the time.
03:35:05.480
Yeah, that's why I'm still not 100% on the whole escorting component, which is why I
03:35:10.680
But I mean, to deny the video, which exists of you fellating a man where your tattoo...
03:35:24.860
The thing with deepfakes is you can change their...
03:35:27.360
No, I'm saying the thing with deepfakes is you can only change their face.
03:35:35.340
Only your face, so a deepfake wouldn't even make sense for this.
03:35:41.920
If it happened, own it and tell the story, because I want to know.
03:35:45.320
I said if it happened, just own it and tell the story.
03:35:58.920
Like, you call someone out for lying and they just won't fess up.
03:36:02.620
So it's like, okay, they'll just continue on with the facade.
03:36:09.660
For the love of God, all the fucking idiots voting for the Democrats and their current
03:36:13.080
dangerous ideologies are going to realize when they grow up what a terrible mistake they
03:36:25.180
What do you think are the biggest problem plaguing America right now?
03:36:28.620
You have to put your finger on a few issues when you're looking at it in the political
03:36:31.640
sense, purely emotion aside, just political issues that you would like to face.
03:36:41.860
Jake, since you want to white knight for the who so much, let's change the subject.
03:36:46.760
Jake, what are your thoughts about Mason getting your sloppy seconds?
03:36:53.200
White knighting is very different to just wanting to move the fuck on, first of all.
03:36:58.220
And I don't know what you're talking about, who Mason is.
03:37:13.660
So in terms of your overall, like, what political issues you're concerned about, what do you
03:37:20.380
think, yeah, what are the two or three issues that you'd be wanting to see cleared up this
03:37:32.780
I don't think that can be cleared up in this, like, election.
03:37:37.340
That will only get worse, because it's been gotten...
03:37:50.100
Well, probably the hub of America, Los Angeles, for homelessness and the drug crisis.
03:38:17.480
By denying it or, like, trying to hide it or suppress it, it just kind of, like, amplifies
03:38:25.340
Like I said, I don't judge people on their paths.
03:38:27.200
I mean, like, I don't care if you did it anyway and you were like, I did it.
03:38:29.880
But if you did, you know, obviously, you're the only one who knows.
03:38:41.160
The thing is, it's hard, though, because you don't know if it's an act or not.
03:38:44.580
It could just be, like, she could just be doing an act the whole time to try and get
03:38:49.360
I don't care if people come over to my OnlyFans.
03:38:53.220
The more drama, the more drama, the more we talk about it.
03:38:55.400
So I think it's best if we just move on from it.
03:38:57.360
Because this is, honestly, you never know on this show, these girls have a good poker
03:39:03.500
I actually didn't come on here to promote my OnlyFans.
03:39:08.040
And I actually didn't even want to get on OnlyFans.
03:39:19.100
And I, like, everybody on the panel, I knew it would be a great discussion.
03:39:22.180
Did you come on here to promote your lingerie business?
03:39:25.200
And then your OnlyFans is what's feeding your lingerie business.
03:39:27.460
Well, I didn't really want to mention it, but I knew it would be.
03:39:32.580
If you didn't want to mention it, why'd you DM him and say that you did OnlyFans?
03:39:37.620
Oh, you just found that when she described herself?
03:39:42.540
Your first, I believe your first message was, one moment here.
03:40:13.560
You said you're a conservative and God-fearing OnlyFans creator.
03:40:18.440
Literally, like, the first thing you said to us.
03:40:31.760
Like, I've had girls who've come on the show and they're like,
03:40:33.860
Hey, I used to do this in my past, but I'd, like, rather not it be brought up.
03:40:40.840
But, like, if you don't ask for that accommodation,
03:40:44.560
and then if I'm asking you a question related to what you do,
03:40:58.100
Whatever you'd like to discuss with me is fine.
03:41:20.600
I need to try to get through the notes here, because there's a lot.
03:41:29.200
Creator of the Pink Pill Self-Improvement for Black Women.
03:41:38.100
There was an old guy who offered you $7,500 on your first date.
03:41:47.160
I told him that I wanted to launch a business, a body care line.
03:42:15.460
What was the strings that were attached to the money?
03:42:28.940
And were you, like, dating as in exclusively dating?
03:42:41.580
You said you wanted to touch on the ridiculous gender wars happening in dating and relationships.
03:43:18.620
And black women have the lowest marriage rates, the highest divorce rates.
03:43:30.300
And everybody was kind of, what are we going to do?
03:43:39.580
I was a writer and very much wanted to write a book.
03:43:46.640
Other friends of mine, women, had said, girl, how did you do that?
03:43:51.460
Because it was just, you know, in the early 2000s, it was seen as something that just wasn't done.
03:44:04.060
There's a lot of social consequences that went along with it.
03:44:07.260
And so I came out and said, hey, date the best man for the job.
03:44:20.420
And then what about white women dating any other, like, racist?
03:44:29.740
And then you said that you're one of the rare people who actually went to charm school.
03:44:36.380
You have an argument that women should pick that up again.
03:44:40.880
I do think that there has been something lost in terms of the way we communicate with each other,
03:44:47.300
the way that we dress, the way that we speak to people,
03:44:54.800
the respect that we give to people seems to be lost.
03:45:00.000
So, yeah, I do think, I definitely do think that.
03:45:02.740
Like last week, there was a girl on your show, and she was sitting in the top,
03:45:08.080
and she just, like, went up to go to the bathroom, and I could see everything.
03:45:20.340
And so, yeah, I think we could learn, you know, there's things that we can learn.
03:45:32.220
Yes, etiquette is what you do, protocol is when you do it.
03:45:36.400
And I think that there's a lot of confusion about what you do and when you do it.
03:45:45.640
I do think that the show doesn't always give a good representation of single women dating.
03:45:49.660
A seeming annoyance with women, I take issue with some of the regressive stances
03:46:03.880
My main beef was the idea that women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
03:46:39.080
If you're going to do this, we're going to have to keep on the subject.
03:46:48.320
First of all, let me ask you, what's your position?
03:46:53.880
I'm happy to still man it, so why should they vote?
03:46:56.120
Well, I think that, first of all, it's a bizarre notion that the United States government or any other Western country would ever take a woman's right to vote away from her.
03:47:09.380
It's a nonsense conversation that seems to be clicks for cash kind of conversation because it's never going to happen.
03:47:24.080
In most countries in the world, women don't vote.
03:47:25.340
No, but our constitution does not allow for that.
03:47:26.540
Our constitution says that men are created equal.
03:47:37.060
You can talk to President Trump or President Harris, whoever is in charge, if you want to do that.
03:47:41.600
But what we're talking about is can women vote?
03:47:43.780
Yeah, so once again, what's the reason why women should vote?
03:48:04.920
They have a right and they have a say, and they deserve to be represented.
03:48:09.820
Because they are half of this population, they are human beings, and our constitution says
03:48:15.380
And not only that, but society, Western society, this is a regressive idea that women should
03:48:26.700
You're saying ten things, we need to take it one by one because it's spugging.
03:48:33.680
Regressing to a hundred years ago, over a hundred years ago.
03:48:39.260
Would you say morally we're better off now than we were a hundred years ago?
03:48:43.520
We are not talking about the effects of women being able to vote and extrapolating that
03:48:50.380
Because Hitler also happened when women were able to vote.
03:48:58.600
No, I just want you to lay out a logical argument as to why women should vote.
03:49:02.080
We brought two bombs on Japan when women were able to vote.
03:49:14.760
You're doing a lot of talking, but not making too much sense.
03:49:27.280
So we can just scratch that I said women are humans.
03:49:34.980
And for the sake of this being clipped, I don't think you're doing a great job at all
03:49:39.100
of explaining why women should be able to vote.
03:49:41.300
Because now people are going to see them be like, that's why women shouldn't vote.
03:49:56.620
You're representing women that when this is clipped and people are saying, this is why
03:50:06.640
And we do make up a big population, but we're also a part of this society.
03:50:44.040
Because they're just working and they don't understand the system.
03:51:17.700
Has declared that it is a woman's human right to vote.
03:51:27.280
A kindergartner shouldn't be able to vote, but...
03:51:36.080
I'm making actual points, so I disagree with that.
03:51:47.320
So, I feel like a majority of the women here are more conservative leaning.
03:51:52.800
If you look at how women vote, they lean more left.
03:52:02.140
I personally, I think that if you want to be able to vote, you have to be up for the draft.
03:52:10.060
I think that women should be able to give away that right.
03:52:12.100
So, you think that women shouldn't vote, is what you're saying?
03:52:18.280
But do you think that it's desirable to have women fighting in the military?
03:52:23.180
Why not ask the person who was in the military?
03:52:29.520
So, would you rather be next to standing side-by-sides on the front line with a woman or a man?
03:52:42.640
If you wanted to go into battle, you'd want to be with a man, right?
03:52:55.280
But that doesn't have to do with voting, in my opinion, whatsoever.
03:53:02.420
Because if you are a woman who is able to vote, then voting gets people into power who can send people off to war, who can send countries off to war.
03:53:13.080
Whenever America goes into war, actually, Australia follows them, by the way.
03:53:15.980
But, yeah, so if you can send people to war, have the power to nullify somebody's vote, who's older than you, and you can have that power, then why should you not have to go to war?
03:53:25.920
Yeah, but you're making two different arguments here.
03:53:29.660
You're saying that if women want to vote, you're saying, if this, then that.
03:53:34.060
You're not in any position of power to enforce that.
03:53:40.860
You can't make somebody who wants to vote decide they're going to enlist for the military unless they want to.
03:53:46.440
So you're saying regular people shouldn't talk about politics?
03:53:48.080
No, but what I'm saying is that it's sort of just being provocative because it's like, do you know what would have to happen for the vote to be of question?
03:54:17.620
You said all the women would get up and get their guns.
03:54:23.120
How do you think that would go for the women trying to overthrow the military?
03:54:27.440
I think that in our country, I don't know about Australia...
03:54:30.980
How would that go for the women if they decided to be up in arms with all of the anarchy and
03:54:35.020
try and overthrow the government and reinstate the 19th Amendment?
03:54:39.500
What I'm saying is that in order for the 19th Amendment to have to be taken away, taken
03:54:48.660
It would have to be a major upset in our political system for there to be a constitutional
03:55:04.800
If the women are so pissed off about losing the vote, what are they going to do?
03:55:10.060
Tell me under what circumstances would it be possible for women to lose the vote?
03:55:29.280
He would propose a bill that would go through the Senate and the House that would be to
03:55:37.060
The Supreme Court would be based Republicans and they would say, yes, get rid of that 19th
03:55:42.340
And then the women wouldn't be able to vote anymore.
03:55:43.700
And then the Republicans would get elected more.
03:55:47.320
And we would all just live together happily and we would all buy each other a Coke and
03:55:57.920
I'm not going to be an anarchist if that, but...
03:56:12.980
What I'm saying is, is that for what you are suggesting, it would have to be all men
03:56:33.620
You can be angry about it or you can make a logical argument.
03:56:36.640
But your argument is in good faith because you are not giving me the set up.
03:56:55.340
Men are gifted in the sense that they are stronger.
03:57:00.560
That's why we have men and women sports, which I fully agree with.
03:57:11.220
But for the entire population, we all have brains to think.
03:57:16.380
We all have arms and legs, the majority, obviously, to work, to do all that.
03:57:24.240
I can't tell if you're playing devil's advocate or you really believe it.
03:57:27.660
But you're from Australia, so I'm happy that you can't vote here for that.
03:57:36.020
But men getting drafted, they're born differently.
03:57:40.700
But we all have a common thing, which is a brain, and we could think...
03:57:49.600
...because they're physically superior to women, right?
03:58:00.700
Okay, so, like we made the argument before about the men going into the military, you'd
03:58:04.640
rather have a man next to you because he's physically superior.
03:58:07.360
Most men, the vast majority of men, would beat up most women.
03:58:18.280
Lady in the green, where do you think your rights come from?
03:58:24.340
Being born in U.S. soil and having the rights and privileges of an American citizen.
03:58:35.980
Fought in World War II, and my grandfather fought in World War I.
03:58:43.140
Your father and your grandfather served the country.
03:58:47.860
Even their daughters and their granddaughters also deserve to vote.
03:58:54.600
Where I come from, the right to vote is very important to us, so I don't play with that.
03:59:03.980
Because we weren't always able to vote in this country.
03:59:10.600
Okay, but, like, that doesn't answer why you should.
03:59:18.660
There were people who were hosed in the streets so that I could have the right to vote.
03:59:25.000
I am going to advocate for my children to vote.
03:59:28.080
I am going to make sure that I pick the best person for the job.
03:59:43.900
I live in California, so I don't get a chance to choose the best man to win.
03:59:58.360
But can I ask you why men should be able to vote?
04:00:00.620
Just so I can hear an example of why, what you're.
04:00:03.920
Well, because men bear most of the burden of responsibility in society.
04:00:10.280
Men build all of the infrastructure around you.
04:00:12.060
So you think it's all based on who gets drafted?
04:00:18.240
Do you think that women who go to war should be an exception to voting?
04:00:28.760
But I'd say it's a key component, though, being drafted.
04:00:32.820
Do you think women play a vital role in our society, though?
04:00:34.620
Yes, but this is where it gets interesting, because I don't look at the right to vote as
04:00:40.380
like a, either I'm like a human or I'm not human.
04:00:43.640
I don't look at that as any, in any way, your intrinsic value is your right to vote.
04:00:47.880
I think that people have value, but in different ways.
04:00:59.680
And that we'd be the ones who play these dirty games.
04:01:06.220
This blonde escort, now sweating, staring out into the void, realizing her past sins are
04:01:14.120
Do you honestly think she's still in the running for that high value man now?
04:01:28.080
Obviously, nobody in this panel thinks I'm in the running for a high value man, but I
04:01:33.740
do have high value men in my life, and I don't agree.
04:01:41.120
Would you say that your dad's a high value man?
04:01:49.160
So, men build all the infrastructure around us.
04:01:56.620
And I think that actually we do women a massive disservice because women's role generally
04:02:02.560
in society, if we're looking at what's fruitful, is to reproduce and is to be mothers.
04:02:09.040
And I think that the primary role of a man is to protect and provide.
04:02:11.840
And along that is, and along with that is all of those disgusting things like fighting
04:02:15.380
wars, doing politics, playing, playing the game of chess that is, that is politics and
04:02:20.520
women in their best form in, I think it's just a fact, is raising children.
04:02:27.100
And if you can channel whatever power that you have as a woman into a family, there's
04:02:35.780
I will say that there are outliers because we can look at the Bible and see that there
04:02:40.140
But I think there are too many women who want to be an outlier, but they have none of the
04:02:47.320
So it's kind of like goes into the whole delusional thing.
04:02:50.780
People think that they're more attractive than they are and all of that.
04:02:57.200
And it's like everyone wants to be an outlier now, but that's not, they're outliers for a
04:03:05.360
You say that men usually have those traits, right?
04:03:09.460
That's why in America we have the system of if you went to prison because you committed
04:03:13.940
a crime, you get your vote stripped away from you because we've decided that if you commit
04:03:21.160
that, you don't have the brain capacity or whatever the right words would be.
04:03:25.220
But women, like, just as I'm able to spit my opinion right now, and I lean more Republican,
04:03:35.680
Girl in the lime green, shut the blank up, idiot.
04:03:39.600
Have a conversation like the others are trying to have.
04:03:42.200
If you want equal rights, sign up for the draft.
04:03:54.120
But you also mentioned about the prison system and that's a good system in the sense that
04:03:57.800
people who commit bad crimes, but doesn't that just show you that democracy is malleable?
04:04:02.100
Democracy is not this sort of overarching thing where everybody has this human, you can take
04:04:06.280
away the vote from people if it benefits society.
04:04:08.200
If you don't want a criminal voting, then you can take away that vote.
04:04:12.200
But women, like, also, like, they're not really playing, like, a good society role of, like,
04:04:16.920
if, I mean, obviously there's circumstances, but I'm saying women, if I have to pay taxes,
04:04:31.320
And I want to say in how I live, I want to say for how my children grow up.
04:04:37.160
And you say, like, men are more rational, but you're talking to a group that seems to lean
04:04:45.720
Does everyone on the panel think that women should have the right to vote?
04:04:52.760
I don't know if you made this argument, because I was gone for a bit.
04:04:54.980
You mentioned, like, women pay taxes, ergo women should vote.
04:04:57.960
But if you look at women as a collective, they're actually a net negative.
04:05:01.500
Like, they take out far more in taxes than they put in.
04:05:06.280
So men are the only ones that actually contribute collectively to the...
04:05:12.480
I'm not disagreeing with that, but everything's taxed.
04:05:15.000
The money I make from going to work, the things I buy, if I want to go buy an iPhone, like,
04:05:23.020
Right, but so women take out far more in taxes collectively than they put in, whereas men
04:05:28.200
are the only net positive when it comes to the tax system.
04:05:31.060
The way you're filing taxes is what they're saying.
04:05:42.640
Sure, well, I just want to know, in what way do women drain the system?
04:05:48.020
Is it through childbirth or taking care of kids?
04:05:52.440
I forget the exact terminology, but taxed, net, negative women.
04:06:06.080
It's probably the way that we file taxes, like head of household taxes.
04:06:27.020
I mean, it's kind of self-explanatory here, so...
04:06:33.560
I'm not going to speak on something that I haven't researched, and I don't know, because
04:06:36.340
I'm not just going to talk out my ass, but at the same time, I feel like I have a good
04:06:42.280
head on my shoulders, especially for my age, and when I drop my children off at school,
04:06:47.080
I don't want them learning certain things that are, like, that I don't agree with, and
04:06:52.840
If Kamala was whatever president, and she's telling Planned Parenthood to give out free
04:06:59.360
birth control without my knowledge, I don't want that to happen, and...
04:07:05.620
Yeah, so, I reckon somewhere you could find middle ground is that...
04:07:11.760
Do you want to quickly ask me a question before we do this?
04:07:14.260
Yeah, I wanted to ask you, do you personally believe that women should not have the right
04:07:23.040
Um, so, what kind of government would you call that?
04:07:28.340
Well, you could still call it a representative democracy, but only men vote.
04:07:32.420
People get stripped of their rights to vote all the time.
04:07:35.500
No, but you're talking about 50% of the population.
04:07:40.060
We're not talking about a few felons here and there.
04:07:42.000
We're talking about the entire swath of, you know, like half of...
04:07:48.820
So, so if the, if you have half of the country not being represented, what is that government
04:07:55.160
Well, it's still called a representative democracy, but less people vote.
04:07:58.440
How can it be a representative democracy when there's literally millions of people who
04:08:06.540
No, I'm asking you, what kind of government is that?
04:08:08.820
I'm just told you, but you're not accepting my answer.
04:08:10.820
I, I, I think that it's more totalitarian government than not, it's not a democracy.
04:08:17.540
A democracy, first of all, the United States of America is not a democracy.
04:08:24.320
So, um, you guys just have a representative, you have a system where you have a democratic
04:08:30.980
And obviously, and democracy isn't like utopia, you know, democracy isn't this idea of heaven.
04:08:38.500
It's not, it's not like a flawless political system, so it needs to be adjusted.
04:08:44.140
Like, well, we, we can talk about it, we can all have our different ideas, and if, if
04:08:49.580
And, you know, saying, saying to me something like, well, you're the one to fix it all, doesn't
04:08:58.780
I think that I have good ideas, you think you have good ideas, so let's talk on the merit
04:09:04.760
Is there any possibility in this conversation that I could be wrong, or you could be wrong,
04:09:13.420
So, so we're going to have a real conversation.
04:09:17.520
Can we go around and ask everyone, do you think?
04:09:19.680
I, um, so I think that in terms of finding common ground, I think that one way that would
04:09:23.780
be actually pretty effective is having a vote for, for, for the home rather than the individual
04:09:30.360
Because when you look at the, yeah, the value of, the value of men and women is obviously
04:09:34.240
very different when it comes to fighting wars and then creating a home.
04:09:37.400
If you had a vote where it was the, there was one vote per household, but it was the husband
04:09:42.260
who did the vote, then that would make a lot of sense because if you did want to, if Bealster
04:09:48.940
77 donated $200 for the Americans who is everyone voting for the next election and why.
04:09:57.480
If you did want to vote and if it was so important to you, then you could get married and be a
04:10:02.400
part of a family and you and your husband could make that decision.
04:10:05.260
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with this statement, but do you think that to vote you
04:10:10.620
I think that having, having a vote in the home, in the nuclear family would be a good
04:10:15.140
Because that's the best representation of society.
04:10:17.860
So how does that work for somebody like me, for instance, where I was married before?
04:10:31.760
I mean, but that's just, I feel like that's a lie.
04:10:34.440
Like that, to phrase it as something that you don't actually mean.
04:10:39.780
I'm not 100% sure what your point is, because I actually, I've made the argument for like
04:10:44.740
What I think you're like, miss saying is that you said that married women, so the man just
04:10:54.140
It's kind of just like a, it's kind of like, here's a dollar and then I'm giving a million
04:10:58.420
dollars to that person, but saying it's equal, like it doesn't make sense to me.
04:11:01.020
It's just the idea that the man is the head of a household and the man does the right.
04:11:05.260
So you're just rephrasing it in a way that may sound like better to women is what it is.
04:11:09.940
Well, no, you're a part of a family unit and the man represents the family and he casts
04:11:16.140
But you said single men should be able to vote.
04:11:18.480
Yeah, because single men can get drafted and single men build the infrastructure around
04:11:23.160
I got, I got to move things on a little bit here, but I think women should vote, but I
04:11:29.440
In fact, for equity sake, for the, they should actually be the only ones drafted and forced
04:11:36.280
to fight in wars for the next thousand years or so.
04:11:41.320
So I think, uh, I think we do that going to, uh, going to the TTS, going to the TTS that
04:12:02.540
Trump, because he encourages American manufacturing.
04:12:15.940
My dad votes for me and I just signed the ballot.
04:12:18.360
I've been doing it since I was 18, but I'm pretty sure it will say Trump.
04:12:32.420
Your intro spiel makes me feel like I'm landing on whatever planet.
04:12:42.240
It makes me feel like I'm landing on whatever planet.
04:12:56.220
This is the best topic of the night where my man caught the escort being a pathological
04:13:07.000
I mean, look, I'm getting a lot of, uh, oh, boy.
04:13:14.860
Look, the chat, I'm going to have to, uh, I think I'm not even posting anything.
04:13:19.360
Like, the people in the Discord are finding a fuck ton of shit, so, uh.
04:13:33.380
Uh, so, discord.gg slash whatever if you want to see it.
04:13:40.340
If, if y'all really think that she's doing that just to kind of bring more attention to
04:13:52.500
But, also, the craziest thing is, she's a lingerie model.
04:13:56.720
This is the most conservative she's ever dressed anywhere.
04:14:01.800
She knows there's a bunch of, like, conservative viewers.
04:14:08.700
This is the most conservative you've ever dressed in your entire life.
04:14:16.240
Let me put on a Hillary Clinton fucking uniform so I can pander to my perceived understanding
04:14:24.620
I'm wearing shorts so it's not that conservative.
04:14:31.820
No, I wore it because I thought I'd be cold because I'm always cold, so I'm not sweating,
04:14:39.200
Remember that girl with all the surgery who said she didn't have surgery and she said
04:15:04.120
So, with you, whether or not you did this, I obviously don't know.
04:15:10.340
But is your hold back from confirming this video that you think those of us on here that
04:15:18.700
might have a different perspective on OnlyFans, we would judge you if you had openly admitted
04:15:28.200
I mean, it's, I've already been fully judged on the podcast.
04:15:31.580
I've already had all the judgment, so I'm not scared of being further judged.
04:15:37.320
I just didn't do that, so I'm not going to confirm something that's untrue.
04:15:56.540
And how am I promoting my OnlyFans when I'm literally saying, I don't sell that kind
04:16:01.700
So, is there any chance that this is a private video with somebody that you were dating previously
04:16:08.940
that recorded something that got on the internet that was not-
04:16:15.460
It's crazy, though, because, I mean, like, this hesitation to want to share something
04:16:18.620
like this, we've had full-blown escorts, prostitutes, they've had, like, literal, they work for a
04:16:28.580
I don't think what you've done is even to that degree.
04:16:35.080
One of the most pleasant guests we've ever had on, her name's-
04:16:39.980
She's slept with, like, over a thousand men for work or whatever.
04:16:44.380
And we treat her perfectly, politely, respectfully.
04:16:48.620
And it's just, like, but when you lie, I think that's the issue that I and the viewers have.
04:16:53.640
It's, like, when you lie about it, then that's- people are, like, well, hold on.
04:17:05.260
And not saying that that's what you were doing, but-
04:17:06.460
Anyways, this is why I'm going to have her read this.
04:17:13.140
Ask the woman why they should vote, and they start fighting amongst each other.
04:17:17.480
Even if someone has a good opinion, if they can't logically articulate why their opinion
04:17:39.040
Because I agree with him that men's bodies are, like, physically superior.
04:17:46.800
So you think women should be allowed to vote, right?
04:17:51.440
I've done a lot of travelling over the last few years, and I've been to Bali and Thailand.
04:17:55.780
I've spent a bit of time working digital nomad stuff, and there's a lot of Russian and Ukrainian
04:18:00.840
girls over there, like thousands of them, everywhere you go.
04:18:04.800
But in Russia and Ukraine, there's probably upwards of a million young dudes who have been
04:18:10.800
So we can talk about this in a way that's, you know, just abstract, but it actually really
04:18:15.320
happens in the real world, where these guys get called upon, and they have to go to war.
04:18:19.620
So it's actually, it's not a small deal, and all the chicks, they get to run off to Bali
04:18:26.360
If you actually place the practical reality in front of a girl and be like, you have this
04:18:30.920
risk, where you will go and potentially get blown up by artilleries, or lose your legs,
04:18:42.960
I guarantee you, you would give up your vote in a second, if it meant that you had to
04:18:48.020
I don't think anybody should have to deal with the draft.
04:18:52.140
We don't have the draft in this country for a reason.
04:18:59.240
Men have to register in this country for the selective service.
04:19:00.680
It's paused because they don't have to be drafted immediately, but there is no current
04:19:08.020
If there was a war tomorrow, and the U.S. had to go and fight a hot war, you would need
04:19:13.800
Like, when we had a conflict in Iraq, we did not have a draft.
04:19:20.160
We didn't need to have a draft because there was enough people who...
04:19:32.460
It's not like, oh, it's not jury duty where it's like, oh, this guy needs to go.
04:19:36.700
There is enough men and women who volunteer to put their life on the line that we don't
04:19:43.660
You have to sign up for the draft when you are a man, and you turn of age.
04:19:51.320
If you don't, it's technically a felony, $250,000 fine.
04:19:56.000
You're barred from certain federal jobs, federal programs.
04:20:12.240
I don't know the exact if they lessen what the requirements are if it comes to a draft.
04:20:18.420
But I know that there are certain things that, you know, if you're on medication, you follow,
04:20:26.740
I couldn't go to war even if I wanted to because of that.
04:20:40.580
There are certain things that prohibit you if you have, like, heart disease, if you have
04:20:48.580
stuff that would affect, like, your physical and actual, like, you know, well-being and
04:20:55.820
could cause the death of somebody else because you have a heart attack or, you know, have
04:21:00.880
diabetes, stuff like that, yes, there are medical exceptions to it.
04:21:04.700
But other than medical exceptions, there isn't a whole lot.
04:21:07.200
The diagnosis of celiac or food allergies is medically disqualifying largely because the
04:21:12.240
military does not provide gluten-free or allergen-safe MREs.
04:21:20.600
Yes, some people can be medically disqualified from...
04:21:23.380
Well, you say that like it's a blown-off, but you were wrong, number one.
04:21:26.080
Number two, the question that I had was, do you think men that don't qualify, if they
04:21:31.720
have celiac or they have certain heartaches, can they vote?
04:21:33.860
Yeah, if you're medically disqualified, you're not going to be drafted.
04:21:43.200
So do the men who are disqualified from being drafted, can they vote?
04:21:51.140
I would say that if you're a celiac and you don't want to be drafted, then you shouldn't
04:21:58.320
I can't eat gluten and I can end up in the hospital.
04:22:01.920
Every two years, I have to get a biopsy and a tube down my throat.
04:22:07.820
Some people have it so severe where they can't even use the same pan.
04:22:14.160
Like, if you'll starve, if MREs, it's what it's called, they...
04:22:24.600
So, these are the current standards where we're not really involved in, like, a massive mobilization.
04:22:31.080
So, the military could always, like, oh, we really need people.
04:22:35.480
And perhaps we don't send them to the front line where they need to be consuming MREs,
04:22:39.200
but they could stay stateside and be due some form of military service.
04:22:46.160
The military needs pencil pushers, like paper pushers.
04:22:49.400
The average age of service at the moment in Ukraine is, like, 45.
04:22:54.320
They're ripping people off the streets and drafting them left, right, and center.
04:23:05.760
And if you want to win wars, you're not going to put women on the front lines anyway.
04:23:20.240
So, if that means that's what I'm going to do when I get drafted, okay.
04:23:39.920
Ukraine is an example of why women should not vote.
04:23:42.200
They elected a politician that are terrible at managing the economy, weakening the country
04:23:49.540
The war starts, and hundreds of thousands of men are dead, and women are simply left in
04:23:54.540
Yo, Vadim, thank you for the $100 soup chat, man.
04:24:03.900
So Jake already kind of brought this up, but we've shown this graphic before where you'll
04:24:08.740
see people who are in other countries will see Ukrainian women on dating apps in these
04:24:15.140
They fled Ukraine, and they're on Tinder, Hinge, Bumble.
04:24:19.880
Meanwhile, their male counterparts, their male peers, are dead in some ditch in eastern Ukraine.
04:24:50.120
You said, I think that the show does a relatively good job of pointing out the absurdities
04:24:55.400
in dating when it comes to women, but not so much on the men, who are also capable of
04:25:01.140
It gives the impression that all the issues people are having in dating is 100% on women,
04:25:07.720
We kind of dived into that a little bit early on in the conversation.
04:25:12.160
But I have something else that I want to bring up, too.
04:25:17.360
Gen Z is averaging two IQ points lower than the rest of us.
04:25:35.540
Teachers are quitting because the kids are so horrible.
04:25:38.700
And I think about less intelligent, poor reading comprehension skills, poor critical thinking
04:25:48.700
And all they have is the internet to teach them.
04:25:57.240
And when you're talking about that level of intellectual vulnerability, I shudder to think some of the
04:26:06.220
things that are being promoted, not necessarily this show, but I'm saying in general, some of
04:26:14.880
It's like, you know, get a guy for all his money or, you know, sleep with a thousand girls before you marry.
04:26:22.520
And if we follow those things to their logical end, then we're doomed.
04:26:28.300
I just think that as content creators, we have kind of a responsibility.
04:26:36.520
These are the people who are born 2010 and after.
04:26:39.400
And in four years, they're going to be voting age, you know, they, and they have these issues.
04:26:46.620
Do we really want the relationship advice just in general?
04:26:53.180
And I just think that we just need to be more responsible.
04:26:57.460
Are you talking specifically about this podcast or?
04:27:00.500
I specifically said, I think that's why I'm here because this podcast is, is, is good.
04:27:06.800
I said, it leans a little bit, but I've seen extreme.
04:27:12.640
You are dealing with very vulnerable kids and you're putting all of this nonsense into them.
04:27:18.480
You're not teaching them how to be in a relationship.
04:27:24.640
Red pill content, but also sort of exploit men monetarily content, like men are trash.
04:27:32.320
Like, oh, there was a woman, uh, here yesterday, uh, last week and you were going through a
04:27:37.400
Twitter feed and it was just one thing after the other about men, this like, I'm, she's
04:27:42.880
This like, that is, yeah, it's not unnecessary.
04:27:46.260
I think it's just not going to end well if we don't do something.
04:27:51.920
So this credit, this isn't a criticism about the pocket.
04:27:56.280
No, I just had the voting thing for Andrew, but he wasn't here.
04:28:02.300
We have, uh, Lindsay, uh, hairstylist used to be a hairstylist.
04:28:09.660
Um, you, uh, you dated a Marine and your roommate at the time apparently had a crush on him.
04:28:17.040
She got drunk and expressed it to me, then bit me literally.
04:28:23.320
So I was like 24 and I, well, I moved to California.
04:28:28.840
I'm from Illinois, um, when I was 22 and then moved to Newport, got a roommate.
04:28:35.020
Um, she was living there in the two bedroom at the time.
04:28:37.740
But anyways, we went out one night, um, and we met like some guys that were in the military.
04:28:44.860
Keep in mind, this isn't like a trend that she's here to with that.
04:28:48.580
Um, she was like, we, we didn't like talk about it.
04:28:55.900
Like, I don't, I think the following weekend and the one that had a crush on me, apparently
04:29:02.580
she had a crush on, but didn't say that now keep, I'm coming from a younger standpoint.
04:29:08.400
So we were on, in the taxi from the Newport Peninsula going back to the house.
04:29:14.460
And then she just started freaking out, crying.
04:29:19.200
Like she was a mutual, like a referral for a roommate.
04:29:25.780
She literally bit like into my arm, like took a chunk.
04:29:36.720
Well, it's pretty much gone now because it's been a long time, but I, I called the cops
04:29:41.020
because I was bleeding and I was like standing outside and the very next day, um, well, I
04:29:47.160
called my cousin that night and they came and I went to their house and then we went there
04:29:52.300
tomorrow to get my stuff, but it was really intense.
04:29:55.480
She had a, well, I didn't know her all that well and I was still kind of.
04:30:02.920
Uh, you do not agree with Brian giving an ultimatum on if a woman wants a second date,
04:30:08.120
having to fully commit to only going on dates with him.
04:30:16.220
I don't agree with that because I feel like that there is a mix of who comes on the show.
04:30:22.700
So me, I don't go on a lot of dates at clearly having in 10 months.
04:30:29.780
Um, so my dating with intention, I don't, I first days are just, I don't think they're
04:30:42.440
They're, they're someone putting on their best behavior, showing all their best qualities
04:30:49.120
Um, I think that committing to someone before you actually like, why would you, why would
04:30:58.160
you commit to somebody that you just did a first interview with without seeing them in
04:31:07.720
a, let's make that second day in a natural habitat, like around their friends and in a social
04:31:20.960
And my opinion is when I'm around my friends or I see somebody in their environment, it
04:31:27.360
kind of sees how things can click, whether it's friendships or, I mean, you're not going
04:31:31.060
to go to the family, but in a social environment or some sort of setting where it's not somebody
04:31:36.860
on their best behavior, every single person is on their best behavior on a first date.
04:31:41.340
And if, well, if they're not, then obviously there's bigger issues.
04:31:44.220
But I just think that getting or having that commitment kind of devalues commitment.
04:31:53.160
Well, I mean, there's varying degrees of commitment, right?
04:31:56.140
Do you see at all where I'm coming from with that?
04:32:03.140
Well, I mean, people can operate in different ways.
04:32:06.440
But my own personal standard is if you want a second date with me, it has to be a wrap
04:32:14.700
Are you saying a second date with you when it's being intimate or that means that they
04:32:23.580
cannot go, like, what if they plan a second date with you and they're out somewhere, whether
04:32:32.280
it's a grocery store, a restaurant, or a bar, and they meet somebody else and they spark an
04:32:49.900
Well, sort of, I think the greater context for this is if I were to meet somebody off of
04:32:54.140
a, if you met them off a dating app, for example.
04:32:59.420
I actually don't think it's all that hard to date one person at a time.
04:33:04.460
And so, and this doesn't mean, well, obviously you can date this person and if it works out
04:33:10.160
great or you go on two, three, four dates and it doesn't work out, then you can move
04:33:15.840
But if I were to go on a first date with a girl and I find out that she's got three other
04:33:20.680
dates lined up with three other men, I lose interest immediately.
04:33:24.660
Now, I think that that's kind of pretty common for a lot of people when they're dating.
04:33:31.120
They're dating multiple people at the same time.
04:33:34.340
Now, if a girl is sleeping with a guy and talking to me, that is a hundred percent a
04:33:45.220
If they're sleeping with one, maybe two, maybe three.
04:33:52.820
I don't want anything to do with you if you're sexually involved with another man.
04:34:00.160
If she's sexually involved with another man, it's a wrap.
04:34:06.560
Some of these dudes say, recreational use only.
04:34:14.120
Now, when it comes, I take it a step further though.
04:34:18.020
If she's romantically involved with another man, this means even going on a date with
04:34:25.360
There are women out there who are properly single.
04:34:29.140
There are women who are properly single who are not involved with another guy or who are
04:34:34.700
not trying to go on three dates a week and they're kind of playing the field.
04:34:40.160
This is going to be much more common amongst women who are not on dating apps.
04:34:43.260
You, for example, you said you've not been on a date for how long?
04:34:45.920
Um, well, realistically, I haven't been on a date since my, since my son's father.
04:34:53.140
And you said you've been single for 10 months though.
04:34:57.480
It's probably, I mean, we could give or take a little bit longer, but that's just.
04:35:03.320
Well, I mean, you yourself would be in terms of how you're moving in the dating marketplace.
04:35:12.240
If I were to ask you on a date that there's a fairly good, likely.
04:35:17.380
But if I were to ask you on a date, there's a fairly, uh, there's a fairly high confidence
04:35:22.200
level on my part, it's likely that you're not going to have a date like three days later
04:35:26.920
given, hold on, just given that you haven't been dating for the past 10 months.
04:35:31.380
So I think finding this actually isn't that rare.
04:35:34.260
And I don't actually think for relationship and commitment minded men that this is actually
04:35:40.220
And you, you fall into this sort of category where I wouldn't anticipate you if I went on
04:35:44.980
the first date with you, given your lack of, I'm not saying this to insult you, but
04:35:50.400
your lack of, your lack, I think it's good actually, uh, your lack of romantic prospects
04:35:58.480
I would not anticipate that like the day after you'd go on another date.
04:36:03.940
I think where I was coming from when I had wrote that, well, for one, the things that I
04:36:09.400
would like disagree on would be just like the way that certain things were articulated
04:36:17.260
So I felt like I just had to put it like an answer.
04:36:20.160
But I look at like, you know, younger and not all younger girls, but you know, everybody's
04:36:28.440
And when they hear that, I see like, that's where, you know, I would essentially say that
04:36:34.180
disagreements are in a line, but something that ties in kind of piggybacks on that is,
04:36:39.880
you know, when it comes to like paying for the date, me personally, I don't go on serial
04:36:49.420
If I'm going on a date with somebody, it's like, they're special to me.
04:36:53.940
It's just not something I'm interested in doing.
04:36:55.780
So I would definitely want the man to take me out on a proper date and paid.
04:37:03.420
No, I don't need some elaborate, you know, if you try to over impress, I'm under, I'm so
04:37:17.800
And I can go further into it if we want, if we, if we, well, yeah, I mean, I guess to
04:37:22.820
just wrap up on the whole, like this ultimatum I essentially give of if you want to continue
04:37:28.260
seeing me, if you want a second date, it has to be a wrap with other men or there can't
04:37:33.480
Um, yeah, probably a lot of women that'll end up being an issue because they're, they
04:37:40.520
are involved with other men, whether they're sleeping with them or dating three, four, five
04:37:44.740
men at the same time, they have a roster, whatever.
04:37:47.180
Um, but I think there's a, I think I do actually, uh, wait, wait, wait, are you saying, do I attract
04:37:59.720
the type of women that are, no, no, no, I attract the type of women that don't do that
04:38:08.800
Um, so typically anyways, but I, I mean, I, I was on the dating apps for a long period and
04:38:15.520
when you're on the dating apps, typically the women on the dating apps, you're going
04:38:18.780
to encounter this much more frequently because dating apps give them hundreds of options.
04:38:24.920
I've gone on it like a dating app, but it's not something I'm like executed.
04:38:28.160
So if you can find women off dating apps, I think it's much more likely you're, you'll
04:38:31.960
encounter and assuming you don't meet them in like bars or nightclubs, you're much more
04:38:36.020
likely to, uh, encounter women who are dating a little more intentionally that don't have
04:38:40.940
like a million men in the picture, uh, dating apps, you'll, you'll encounter this all the
04:38:46.340
Like it's the, the woman who doesn't do this would be the exception to the rule.
04:38:50.420
I remember I went on a date with like an average looking girl and she told me she had
04:38:57.180
I was like, uh, she downloaded hinge like a week prior.
04:39:04.680
She said she had five more dates lined up and I instantly just lost all interest.
04:39:11.080
Do you think it takes away the value of your time with that person for, Oh, I do feel like
04:39:15.640
it takes the value away from your time with that person.
04:39:18.780
I'm just not, I mean, I'm just not really interested at that point.
04:39:33.080
I'm not interested in the, in like short term casual sex or sleeping with a girl once
04:39:39.820
If I sleep with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
04:39:41.860
I want to continue seeing her and I do prefer longterm relationships.
04:39:49.640
When do you, when you go on a date with a woman, do you think that that should be like
04:39:55.520
their end game ongoing other dates and, or, um, it depends on who she is.
04:40:01.740
And generally with the type of girls that I date, it wouldn't, it would be implied, but
04:40:06.920
um, yeah, after the first one, I'd say unless they're in, they've, they're like a virgin
04:40:13.320
and they've held onto their purity and they're not going around sleeping with other guys and
04:40:18.160
But, um, yeah, generally I'd say after the first or second date, but if they, if they're
04:40:22.060
a girl who's, who's not sleeping around and they're just meeting guys, it's a tough one.
04:40:26.720
It's a tough one because after the first or second date, it would be like, you'd have
04:40:32.400
Do you think a lot of first dates sometimes as somebody just putting on their best self
04:40:37.640
and you can't, you can get deep, but only to a certain degree of like the core of there?
04:40:42.960
I wouldn't say so from my perspective, because generally I can weed out a lot of, a lot of
04:40:47.240
things on the first date and ask little leading questions and you can see where it takes them,
04:40:55.840
I mean, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can very subtly bet.
04:41:00.360
Honestly, I don't like dates because I'm like, shut up.
04:41:03.740
Like, I know you're not, like, just knock it off.
04:41:06.100
Like, and I think that having, I don't know, it's a lot of pressure going on a date.
04:41:10.080
Um, if you're dating intentionally, um, if you're dating to get a free meal or do something,
04:41:15.260
you know, elaborate and bougie that you can't afford to do on your own, well, then I guess
04:41:20.180
you're, you know, you're going to get what you get.
04:41:21.900
But I just, authenticity and someone being their true self is so far lost in a lot of
04:41:31.640
I have a, I have a question for you guys specifically, because obviously like you're the only two men
04:41:35.780
here, um, in regards to dating apps, well, I mean, in like this space, I, I really, um,
04:41:43.800
this is something that a man once told me and I was absolutely floored by this conversation
04:41:51.760
Do men randomly download dating apps and go through and just swipe on girls with no purpose
04:42:00.340
or intention of having a conversation with them in actuality?
04:42:05.780
Men probably do that, but women do that way more.
04:42:12.980
I'm saying just like ripping through and just like, like, like not even looking, like
04:42:21.340
Like, I think generally ugly guys will do that.
04:42:25.080
Oh, actually like guys who like don't really get many matches, but, um, or they could,
04:42:30.060
it could just be any guy who just wants to get as many matches as possible, gets Tinder
04:42:34.940
But what if they don't even get Tinder premium and then they don't even have, have a conversation
04:42:38.880
and then just delete the app as if it's like a game for them or something.
04:42:43.340
Maybe they're seeing, maybe they're looking to see.
04:42:46.640
I've heard of people doing it and getting matches, like just so they get quick matches.
04:42:54.140
I think, I think part of it is probably because, uh, most women swipe no on most men.
04:43:00.100
So like, it's a waste for a guy to spend like 30 seconds to review the profile and like the,
04:43:06.180
the meta for the dudes is there's swipe on everybody.
04:43:09.260
And then of the matches you do get, you see who will, see who will respond to you.
04:43:16.120
Because like women are the selective ones on the dating apps.
04:43:19.360
Like they'll swipe no on most people and swipe on the ones they want.
04:43:22.560
Whereas men will swipe pretty much on everything.
04:43:26.300
So is this basically like kind of playing Russian roulette, just swipe through everybody and
04:43:30.420
see who kind of like responds back to you and then take it from there?
04:43:33.580
Yeah, you swipe on everybody and then, and then you sort, then you can sort through the
04:43:43.600
Maybe it didn't used to, but probably has an impact on the algorithm.
04:43:46.200
If you're swiping on everybody, you're going to get D ranked and you're going to be shown
04:43:52.260
I'm not familiar with the dating app algorithms anymore, but this was a strategy.
04:43:56.300
A long time ago, men just swipe on everyone, but now it's probably changed a little bit,
04:44:05.120
You let the women be the select, the selectors when it comes to matching.
04:44:09.000
Then from there on you message who you want to message.
04:44:13.240
But in most cases, aren't women, the one that are initiated in conversation anyway, they're
04:44:20.280
Because even if guys are swiping on them, then the woman has to see that like and respond
04:44:28.560
But in most cases, even if a woman were to match with a man, she's not going to initiate
04:44:35.780
But as far as I recall, the match occurs and then it just sits there in the match queue
04:44:42.840
and then the woman could message first, but typically the man's going to message first.
04:44:49.160
I'm not on any dating apps right now, but I was on Tinder, Hinge, Bumble.
04:44:55.700
Well, I got, funny story, I got banned on every single one of them because I was using it
04:45:10.180
So in the same way that like girls who are trying to promote their only fans or Instagram,
04:45:18.700
I was essentially not using the dating app for its intended purpose.
04:45:21.640
But even though you went on dates for Matt from their apps?
04:45:26.980
Well, they should have taken that in consideration.
04:45:42.980
Isn't there like a one where it's for like friends or like businesses or something?
04:45:46.560
Bumble gives you like a friends option if you want to do like...
04:45:50.600
If girls want to find girlfriends, you can do a friends option.
04:45:55.320
Like it's styled like a dating app, but in the music industry where it says like you swipe
04:45:59.820
and you can get roles or it's also like to find friends and stuff.
04:46:05.540
Just like the swipe meet because everyone's lazy nowadays.
04:46:14.500
How long have you been doing dog training before?
04:46:16.940
I started when I was a teenager, when I was around 14 or 15.
04:46:20.480
Does any of the dog training stuff translate to dating for you?
04:46:29.160
I wish I could say that it did, but it does not.
04:46:35.780
I don't know if you guys look through my social media, but I do.
04:46:39.160
I used to train some police dogs and I do a lot of personal protection dogs and my personal
04:46:49.280
Can you train like a chihuahua to be protection?
04:47:08.800
Do you do positive reinforcement or negative reinforcement or both?
04:47:12.020
Uh, I do balance training, which is a mixture of both.
04:47:20.780
Um, so it's a little bit different, but yes, I do e-collar train dogs.
04:47:25.760
I'm very okay with my clients not wanting to use it.
04:47:36.240
You had a guy that went a little hardcore on the first date.
04:47:47.960
Um, because I have tried dating apps before and it just is not my thing.
04:47:55.960
I showed up, he rented a SUV, um, a very expensive one and we went on a date, went to a super high
04:48:07.980
end restaurant, went to drinks at a, like a bunch of super high end bars.
04:48:15.700
Kind of like how you had said, like, I don't need, like, over the top.
04:48:19.320
It doesn't need to be, like, a huge production.
04:48:21.300
I'm not saying that I don't appreciate a guy taking me out for a nice dinner, but for a first date,
04:48:25.560
I do think there is something as going a little too much as if you're trying to, like, flaunt
04:48:35.140
And in an attempt to the, the wrap up of this story is he wanted me to come up to his apartment
04:48:47.540
Um, I'm not going to go into a man's house apartment after a first date.
04:48:56.660
So when you have this super elaborate planned date and then at the end of the night you get
04:49:03.040
invited up to a man's apartment, I feel like there is, there was a negative intent behind
04:49:09.520
the date in the first place as if because he spent so much money, there is an expectation
04:49:14.340
that you're going to go home with that person and have sex with them.
04:49:18.640
I mean, that's, that was my kind of, um, yeah, evaluation of that situation.
04:49:28.480
I could be a little bit harsh, but I don't think you're wrong for your feelings about
04:49:35.860
And then, uh, you also similar to your friend here disagree with fully committing to singularly
04:49:42.940
I'm not committing to someone unless I get to know them, but I'm also very open about
04:49:47.340
that whenever I go out on a date with a new man.
04:49:52.220
So I think that it's a little premature on like a second date to be like, I'm not going
04:49:59.560
I think that from, and, and I don't go, I don't go out on dates very often.
04:50:06.120
Um, but after a second date, it's very hard to know if you actually like a person enough
04:50:16.120
I've known several people who have given somebody chance after chance to kind of get to know
04:50:22.400
And then after like the third or fourth date, it usually falls apart.
04:50:25.180
So I think there's a little bit more of like a vetting process that needs to happen unless
04:50:31.080
Like the first and second dates are like four to six hours long.
04:50:34.920
I think it's very difficult to get to know somebody in two dates.
04:50:38.800
Now, does that mean that I would go and well met lol paladins donated $200 and two cents.
04:50:47.060
That's why it's important to invite the girls into your apartment before the first date.
04:50:51.600
See if she is DTF first before you waste your money.
04:51:01.280
But this is, this is exactly the point is like, it's fine.
04:51:07.680
This is, that's, this is exactly why I don't date.
04:51:15.720
Like if there is just an expectation to have sex, like do, can I pay for my own dinner?
04:51:23.160
Am I going to date a man that's not going to pay for my dinner?
04:51:27.140
But if there is an expectation immediately on the first date to have sex, I would rather
04:51:33.900
Now here's what's going to really bamboozle you guys.
04:51:37.300
So I actually don't have any objections to having sex immediately.
04:51:53.740
Well, in any case, well, I think my, my other big objection here is if, if she's had sex quickly
04:52:05.700
If she's like, we're going to wait three months for you, buddy.
04:52:16.400
You got one standard for all the guys in the past, but now.
04:52:19.480
So what is your, what's your, what's your cutoff?
04:52:29.020
You said that it was okay if you had sex with her on the.
04:52:31.440
And you know, how long would you wait before, like, it would have to be a really serious
04:52:37.260
If you liked her, if you liked her enough and then she was holding out on you at what
04:52:41.960
point would you be like, all right, we're either having sex or I'm out and I'm going
04:52:54.340
If she has a low body count, one, two, three, and all her ex-boyfriends, she made them wait.
04:53:01.080
But if she's had sex with men before, quickly, and now you want to make me wait a month, two
04:53:11.060
months, three months, get the fuck out of here, bro.
04:53:17.660
But how would you even know all of this information?
04:53:26.160
Some of these women are really stupid that they're even like disclosing all this stuff.
04:53:33.500
So if you didn't know that information, though.
04:53:37.480
Ryan, if you didn't know that information, though.
04:53:42.500
So I'm asking you a question that is completely surface level.
04:53:49.240
We're not going to put in wool if she's this, this, and this.
04:53:51.420
If you don't know, what would be your max on waiting?
04:53:55.540
Wait, but there's no scenario where I'm not going to, like, fucking.
04:54:09.480
But are you dating someone to see if they are pleasant conversationalists over dinner?
04:54:22.040
Because the amount of times that women have gone on a date with a man whose only intent
04:54:28.140
is to just have sex with her on the first date and then they get ghosted immediately
04:54:33.780
That's exactly why that just does not work for women.
04:54:39.560
Without your, like, stipulations or anything, what would be the absolute longest you would
04:54:46.640
wait for someone you like a lot before you would be like, okay, like.
04:54:59.280
That's an interesting way to put it, but I don't think I would frame it quite like that.
04:55:06.640
But, well, I mean, there's no situation where I would not do like a vetting of the girl.
04:55:12.320
So I would, assuming she's telling the truth, I would know.
04:55:18.680
I would go over her social media and see if, like, any African ex-boyfriend.
04:55:35.080
I'm just saying that women can be convincing is all I'm saying.
04:55:41.760
You also ask questions that we answer, even if we have to answer, but we can't fully
04:55:49.000
So I just wanted to know what your max feel is.
04:55:55.780
So she's saying, so she's claiming to be a virgin, but she's not.
04:55:58.960
No, it's just, we're going to say, okay, girl you went on a date with, or you've been
04:56:15.120
When would you, when would you give kind of like an ultimatum?
04:56:28.520
I know, but there's no scenario where I'm going to be considering a girl without properly
04:56:34.020
And by vetting her, I mean, what's her sexual history?
04:56:46.760
This is how, you know, it's funny because the questions that are the hard questions that
04:56:51.460
like you ask or Brian, or I'm sorry, or Andrew asks, this is like what you're doing right
04:56:58.500
You're avoiding, you're avoiding a direct answer because you're trying to get more information
04:57:04.320
out of us and make it more complicated than the actual answer is.
04:57:12.660
I mean, I just don't think it's a hypothetical.
04:57:20.740
It's just like, well, Brian, how long would you wait for a prostitute?
04:57:32.480
But I'm saying in all instances, I would have a conversation with the girl.
04:57:54.480
You would, you would be like, okay, like when would it happen?
04:58:00.520
So it could be after one date, could be after two, could be after five?
04:58:06.560
But when I was like, this is somebody I could take seriously, you don't have a completely
04:58:10.880
If you did, if she's a virgin, then I'm happy to wait as long as she wants to.
04:58:17.340
And then, but the marriage would happen pretty quickly though.
04:58:24.680
If, if I knew that, you know, that she was legit.
04:58:28.860
Are you going to get her examined like they did in the old days?
04:58:33.540
Or do you just take, or do you just take their word for it?
04:58:37.400
No, I think the harmony can break if you're like riding a horse, can't it?
04:58:42.500
I mean, you just hope that they're telling the truth.
04:59:00.060
According to style slash mystery method, ancient wisdom from old school pre-Red Pill days, the
04:59:06.500
ideal answer is 10 hours spread out over at least two locations.
04:59:20.100
It's, but if, for example, I, and I've, I've been in this situation where I, uh, I was dating
04:59:27.900
a girl and she's like, yeah, I had a couple, I've had hookups.
04:59:31.940
I've hooked up with a guy quickly, whatever, had a couple of relationships.
04:59:35.740
So we're looking at body count, like around 10, maybe more than 10.
04:59:47.720
But I can also feel like, yeah, that's kind of a raw deal.
04:59:55.700
Uh, it's like what, cause you're like, you're basically trying to leverage sex.
05:00:00.400
And whenever you, a girl is leveraging sex, that's not really.
05:00:06.260
I mean, the more games that are played, the more you're just setting yourself up for a
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And if I see that, then I think they're further down.
05:00:16.980
Those are not women that are ready to get married.
05:00:22.440
Well, I mean, I always say, I think it's an Australian thing.
05:00:24.920
We say girls when we're talking about, like, basically.
05:00:28.620
People always call me out, call me out on that.
05:00:30.860
But anyways, I think that, um, if you, if you see that, then when you're married, they're
05:00:35.400
going to try and leverage it for chores and they're going to try and leverage it for absolutely
05:00:40.060
I think it's fun to have a little banter, but not like when you're married, a little
05:00:47.620
I mean, I just think that, uh, it's going to set you up for failure later.
05:00:55.420
You don't have any like religious, uh, justification.
05:00:58.620
Even for withholding sex in your past, you've had sex relatively quickly.
05:01:02.720
So you have no like moral objections to sleeping with people quickly.
05:01:06.040
You just think this is what is, I need to do, or is what ought to be done or what I'm supposed
05:01:10.960
to do in order to get commitment from this man.
05:01:13.860
And then like, how are you going to leverage that in the future to get compliance from me
05:01:20.300
If I'm dating a woman in her thirties, it's like, okay, we've had, we've probably both
05:01:27.020
We've probably had a couple of short-term things here and there.
05:01:31.820
Like, okay, what's the point in waiting at this point?
05:01:34.020
It's one thing if like, she's a virgin or whatever, or low body count, it's always been
05:01:39.460
her standard, but for most women, not the case.
05:01:48.040
I don't actually, unless you have some new found, you found Jesus, whatever, uh, you want
05:01:54.860
I still wouldn't date you then, but, uh, but I mean, uh, I appreciate you answering the
05:02:02.160
question the way that I asked it after a little bit of coaxing.
05:02:10.520
But there's, there's some, there's some guys who will say, all right, if you're not
05:02:17.140
If you're not a virgin, then you should let me get it because you gave it to somebody.
05:02:24.380
And I think that that's kind of, I mean, that's an extreme thing, but it's like, can't people
05:02:33.600
I mean, isn't that what redemption is all about?
05:02:42.300
I think this is not working for me and I want to do something different.
05:02:51.680
It depends if you're talking about casual dating or if you're talking about more, more
05:02:57.680
If they go on a date or two and then he just expects it, then yeah, fair enough.
05:03:01.980
But with more serious dating, it's like if you've had sex with 50 guys and then you try
05:03:09.500
That means that he has to pay the ultimate price for it, whereas so many people got it
05:03:15.800
I mentioned like just a virgin, like she's not a virgin.
05:03:20.820
But like, so if you're not a virgin, then I should be able to get it.
05:03:26.060
I think Brian makes a good point when he says that you have that conversation with girls
05:03:31.640
Like if she's just had relationships and they've been a number of years and they haven't
05:03:36.860
worked out and a couple of relationships, but she hasn't really slept around, then that's
05:03:41.280
Maybe she's someone who likes to have sex in the context of a relationship and that's
05:03:45.800
But if she had her hoe phase and she slept with a bunch of guys and now she's trying to
05:03:50.400
make you wait, then you can't have your cake and eat it.
05:03:56.460
I don't fully agree with that either because I think that you can just have like a total
05:04:04.480
So before, when we tell her to speak into that, sorry, um, my husband and I, when we were
05:04:09.480
first dating, we hooked up, I hooked up as soon as he wanted to hook up.
05:04:13.060
And then when we took a little break and then when we got back to dating again, I just told
05:04:18.440
him like implicitly, like, I want the next and the last person that I'm with to be the
05:04:29.800
So it took like a few weeks, but I'm just saying like, it wasn't about trying to coerce
05:04:37.140
It wasn't about like trying to, um, have leverage.
05:04:41.600
It was just like, I know that I don't want to be with somebody anymore unless that's the
05:04:47.740
And thankfully that worked out, but wait, so did you not have sex with him until you
05:04:55.100
No, I did like three weeks in, but I, I told him like, I want to marry you.
05:05:02.880
And he didn't believe like you, he was very, um, very monogamous, very totally just didn't
05:05:09.920
believe in marriage and like the government sense.
05:05:11.640
And then, um, yeah, after like three years, he just married me because I, uh, I have a,
05:05:21.080
Um, I've encountered this with quite a few women and it usually, I honestly just stopped
05:05:29.060
She told me, uh, the last guy I have my notes here, the last guy she had hooked up with was
05:05:39.900
She arrives at the house, they start chatting and they hook up within one hour of meeting
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Uh, she's a bit a little, a little, not so warm to me, a little cold.
05:05:52.480
She wants to wait and insist we go out on dinner dates.
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Uh, needless to say, after that first date with her, I did not pursue her past the first
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Uh, so she, by doing this, remember, this is the last guy she hooked up with.
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I was already kind of turned off by that a little bit.
05:06:18.780
This was a couple of years ago and she told me, she told me, she just like flat, like she's
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I mean, I asked her, I was like, so tell me about the last guy you dated or whatever.
05:06:30.440
She ended up dating him for a bit, but she like went, she had a, uh, airy Airbnb in some
05:06:38.980
He starts flirting with her and they fuck within an hour.
05:06:42.440
And then I'm like, okay, I kind of see what the picture is.
05:06:46.200
And so now I would not, now I'm kind of like, I'd be turned off by that, but this is a couple
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Uh, so I was like, okay, I was like, so we're, we're out for coffee.
05:07:04.620
She's like, uh, I'd rather like go out to dinner a couple more times.
05:07:09.440
You told me, you literally told me that you fucked a guy with an hour of meeting him and
05:07:17.060
you want me to take you on three, four fucking dinner dates.
05:07:19.620
Are you out of your, look, women can change up.
05:07:22.240
Men are not owed sex, but I'm allowed to be like, eh, raw deal.
05:07:27.460
Well, she probably liked the other guy cause he looked attractive to her immediately.
05:07:38.140
No, I'm just saying there was obviously more to you that she wanted to get to know you for
05:07:44.080
So she rewards the fuck boys and the guys, the guys who she's desirous of being in a long
05:07:49.740
term relationship, you make the guy who's the most deserving of.
05:07:57.820
It's, I mean, it's absolutely always plays out.
05:08:00.020
So the guy who's most desert, who's most deserving of the sex, he has to wait for the sex, but
05:08:05.120
the guys who are jerks, fuck boys, assholes, they get it immediately.
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She, she, she was, he was more attractive, whatever.
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She didn't see long-term potential in him, but you're saying she saw more in me.
05:08:29.440
But that's different though, than being like, whether, whether you want to marry me or not,
05:08:33.680
I know that I don't want to be with anybody else.
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So I'm going to wait a little bit and make sure, and you know, it's just weird because
05:08:42.540
you like y'all will reward the fuck boys who will never give you commitment with immediate
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And then you punish the guys worthy of a relationship by making them wait weeks, months, or even
05:08:58.660
It definitely is back backwards, but I do not, not, but, but period.
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Period, I think that modern day dating is, is very bad.
05:09:17.000
Do you think it's that they're trying to put up a facade of being like a, like a dateable
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woman by not giving it up to you really quickly?
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That's, uh, yeah, that's probably a component of it.
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Wait, did you, do you have, hold on, do you have more?
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No, I was just asking if like, that would be a possibility in your mind.
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Cause I think that that might be an explanation, not that it's a good one, but I think it would
05:09:42.820
Uh, so they're trying to give the impression that they're, well, I have something on this
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Um, I, I think that if a woman lies to a man, then she does not respect him.
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And if she doesn't respect you, it's not going to work, period.
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So even if that was her reasoning, it's like you cut her off right away.
05:10:12.420
So the whole point of a woman having a waiting period before she has sex, it's supposed to
05:10:19.040
be due to her not being someone that gives away sex so easily.
05:10:22.580
So having a man wait, uh, implies that I'm not easy to get into bed.
05:10:27.200
Uh, but it kind of just means I'm going to make you wait an arbitrary amount of time because
05:10:33.760
I want to give you the impression that I'm not quick to give out sex.
05:10:47.140
They'll be sleeping with a guy who's a friends with benefits all the while simultaneously pursuing
05:10:54.800
a guy for long-term commitment, making him wait, withholding from him while fucking, uh,
05:11:00.540
we have something on this that there was like a really interesting Reddit post that came.
05:11:06.240
But, um, Doug's like extremely disrespectful to the man though.
05:11:13.180
That's just not the reason though, that why all women change their perspective on that
05:11:23.120
Austin, I'm going to put it in the private chat if you want to get it pulled up for us.
05:11:29.340
Uh, this is, we're going to react to this, then we're going to move on to, uh, another
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We need to, uh, helps with the algorithm or something.
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I don't want it within the Dropbox if possible.
05:12:05.900
I'm unsure if I should tell my boyfriend this information, question mark.
05:12:10.740
I've recently gone official with a man I've been dating for a couple months.
05:12:14.140
He's kind, respectful, and considerate, and I really think he could be the one.
05:12:18.880
I wanted to build slowly with this man so he didn't become intimate until after going exclusive.
05:12:24.280
But between the first date and that point, I did see an old friends with benefits a couple of times.
05:12:28.840
Back then, I didn't think anything of it as I wasn't exclusive, but I underestimated how much I would care for my boyfriend.
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The update was, there was mixed reactions here, but my gut told me that I should tell my boyfriend.
05:12:51.300
He said, sorry, I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who does that, then blocked me on everything.
05:13:11.040
I think that everyone has different morals of what they think are right and wrong.
05:13:14.880
And if something in your gut says something's wrong, then you should say something.
05:13:21.500
You know, if it felt like a lie and like she cheated, then it's great to have the dialogue with that.
05:13:27.760
She's waiting in this relationship and not saying anything.
05:13:31.220
But I think it's more to the point of like what you said before is actually very accurate.
05:13:34.340
that if she doesn't respect you, then like a woman would never do that to a man that she respected.
05:13:40.200
Would make him wait while going and getting her back line out by some chad.
05:13:46.100
Like if she respected him and she thought of him as, you know.
05:13:49.800
What I meant by she was saying, is this wrong or right?
05:13:52.220
And I was like, if it feels wrong in her gut, then.
05:13:56.080
Yeah, she respected him enough to deal with the consequences of telling him the truth.
05:14:20.320
And can you guys just check if you have a Prime sub available?
05:14:26.080
It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show.
05:14:27.780
If you have Amazon Prime, you just link it to your Twitch.
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Super easy way to support the show every single month.
05:14:33.020
So I appreciate all you guys who watch over there on Twitch.
05:14:47.400
And guys, we posted the BTS of the girl that we had to kick out on Tuesday.
05:14:58.100
This girl was just a terrible troll, but she was trolling nonetheless.
05:15:13.600
So we have, we have the men's rating guy, the women's rating guy, and then we have this random chasing serum, another tattoo, another girl's men's serum, and then we have a piece.
05:15:44.020
I think she's like wearing a brown, light brown shirt.
05:15:54.920
Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren, Bren.
05:15:58.620
The hottest thing a man can do is be a little scared of me.
05:16:09.140
I'm a very dry humor kind of person, so I was probably just making a joke.
05:16:19.480
I'm going to sit next to the richest looking middle-aged man on my flight and scroll through my nudes for three hours.
05:16:30.380
And also dick sucking and other stuff, but you're not going to admit to the dick sucking, but it's okay.
05:16:45.760
I like to differentiate it because I think a lot of people think of OnlyFans nudity, like straight up spreading your legs to the camera.
05:16:54.760
And I do some content where it's like a loud on Instagram type content.
05:17:02.620
Do you have a sheer kind of sheet you put over the...
05:17:37.900
So we can't show the video because we're on YouTube and Twitch.
05:17:40.760
You already talked about how the tattoo matched.
05:17:45.720
You are fellating an individual, someone male, a male, penis, and you are...
05:18:07.780
Brenna, do you want to just fess the fuck up and stop being a...
05:18:15.400
We might have to go through the subtle nuances of the tattoo.
05:18:19.200
If we can pull it up and look at the little lines.
05:18:22.020
I can definitely confirm now that didn't happen.
05:18:27.780
Can you walk over here and I can pull up the video?
05:18:31.680
With these little subtle nuances we could compare.
05:18:41.480
Can I look at the video and confirm if it's her or not?
05:18:54.420
I feel like male's perspective sometimes is a lot of, like, jaded.
05:19:04.760
I honestly don't care, like, if y'all believe me or not.
05:19:09.300
The only thing that's really annoying me is that there's probably...
05:19:11.300
There's probably heaps and heaps of guys running over to your Omni fans right now subscribing
05:19:27.000
And I'm not going to watch it because I don't want to watch it.
05:19:29.060
I mean, I'm definitely going to look into this, like, a lot after the podcast to see if there
05:19:37.200
It wouldn't be to my knowledge, and I've never knowingly recorded something like that.
05:19:45.320
People were there and say, nope, that's not me.
05:19:47.780
So, like, if it was, like, do you know how traumatizing that would be to me?
05:19:51.260
I don't want to, like, sit here on a podcast and, like, realize something like that could
05:19:55.400
have happened to me and then have, like, sickness.
05:19:57.300
Oh, so you're saying that it could have happened and you didn't know, then that's different.
05:20:04.000
I wouldn't want to see myself like that if somebody, like, did something like that
05:20:09.540
If you didn't know, then, you know, I think you should still want to know because that's
05:20:14.940
I don't want to, like, sit here and feel like...
05:20:46.120
I look at people's physical features all the time.
05:20:59.780
But is it filmed as if she knows it's being filmed?
05:21:56.180
Well, it's different when a male is evaluating a video
05:22:04.660
and they could just assume that it was the same person,
05:22:07.940
but I'm pretty good at being able to discern...
05:23:03.200
I hope I don't find out there's something out there like that.
05:23:07.640
You can't just get shit posted on your account that you didn't post.
05:23:19.260
I'm 33, married with four kids, stay-at-home mom, homeschooling, working full-time from
05:23:23.440
Extremely traditional, conservative, and spiritual, religious, but...
05:23:28.880
But, 13 years ago, I was a bikini barista, calendar girl, and I ended up going deep into
05:23:36.260
addiction, and years ago, I was a high-end escort.
05:23:42.680
Oh, that sounded really biased, considering you came at me for that earlier, about Christian
05:23:49.680
Did you hear what I said about morally bankrupting yourself?
05:23:59.300
No, she said she didn't want it said on the podcast, but Brian just said it, so...
05:24:02.820
Okay, but do you think that being an escort is acceptable if you're a Christian?
05:24:05.520
I feel like you're just mad you weren't honest up front.
05:24:08.940
Do you think that God would not judge you for being an escort?
05:24:24.220
That's the difference, is you're not justifying it versus someone else who is justifying it.
05:24:29.460
Because that's the whole point of the Bible, redemption.
05:24:43.300
It's about not continuing a harmful pattern, which I think you're actively contributing towards
05:24:48.640
Whereas this girl across the table has learned from it and found Jesus and...
05:24:56.360
Whatever you did, I still believe you can be a Christian and stuff.
05:25:00.280
I don't agree with your views that God doesn't accept people who do certain things.
05:25:04.320
So I'm just saying your views sound contradicting.
05:25:06.240
If that has anything to do with being saved, I think that there's a difference, though, between
05:25:12.300
living as a Christian and doing that type of thing.
05:25:18.180
There's a difference because, like I said, I did say right here that you can do something
05:25:24.820
transactional and make a lot of money off of it and physically live a certain type of
05:25:31.520
lifestyle and you are morally bankrupting yourself.
05:25:36.740
Anybody can infer what does transactional mean.
05:25:40.280
And that was a very brief period of my life and I was very uncomfortable and in a bad place
05:25:53.480
Okay, if we look at the Bible, Mary Magdalene, right?
05:25:56.980
She stopped what she was doing because it was wrong.
05:26:01.460
God did judge her and he judges all of us for all of our actions.
05:26:06.740
So, to say that he doesn't care is not true because if he didn't care, then why would Mary
05:26:16.080
Okay, so Rahab though, Rahab was a harlot and she has a lot of mentions in the Bible and she also is in the lineage of Jesus.
05:26:27.260
So, yes, she married into, you know, the Judaism, Christian faith at the time and she changed her life and, you know, some man that was a Jew found value in her as a person because of what she did and she's in the line of Jesus.
05:26:51.660
I think that it, I carry baggage and weight and guilt for my lifestyle.
05:27:00.280
So, don't put that on me because I already said I don't feel morally bankrupt.
05:27:04.960
I'm saying, I said I don't feel morally bankrupt.
05:27:07.620
If you don't feel morally bankrupt, you're not admitting to a video that you're in.
05:27:14.680
Clearly, something in you is not comfortable with sharing something you did.
05:27:20.300
I mean, that's an old convo, but the point is, she, I don't think she.
05:27:32.500
And, like, you're not behaving like an innocent person.
05:27:36.300
When people are innocent, they're like, I'm innocent.
05:27:42.680
And then, like, with the people, the person who, like, actually did it, they're so calm.
05:27:51.060
I've actually seen those videos on YouTube where they say the innocent people are really
05:27:56.260
And it's the ones who are calm that are just, like.
05:27:58.820
If there was a video of me online that I didn't put out there, I would be, I would have left,
05:28:05.480
checked my phone, and figured it out immediately.
05:28:14.060
I'm sorry, but if I, if I just found out that someone's posting deepfakes of me online, I
05:28:20.860
would have left the podcast, called the cop, figured something out, freaked it out.
05:28:26.660
I wouldn't just be sitting here just, oh, like, let's talk about the next thing.
05:28:30.700
Like, can we also address something that maybe this is a reason why girls shouldn't do OnlyFans?
05:28:40.540
You are now, because of those pictures of you, now this video is there that you're claiming
05:28:47.460
So you put yourself at risk by doing OnlyFans and doing that type of content, and now you're
05:28:55.180
Yeah, but the difference is, I don't, I don't care.
05:28:57.840
If there is a video out there like that, I wouldn't care.
05:29:02.100
So then just admit that it's you in the video, and just put it to wrap it, because I've never
05:29:15.340
You know what's funny to me, and I was thinking about this, though.
05:29:17.520
We've had, like, a couple OnlyFans girls do this sort of charade, or whatever.
05:29:21.400
And it's like, I've actually heard from some of these OnlyFans girls, and the OnlyFans
05:29:25.900
girls who come on, and they're, like, just, they're honest, and they have base takes or
05:29:30.860
whatever, but they're, you know, whatever, they're still being degenerate.
05:29:34.220
Like, I think they actually tend to do better than the girls who come on, and just lie, and
05:29:42.920
Like, they'll actually, like, get more followers, the viewers...
05:29:46.820
I'm not on here trying to get followers or viewers.
05:29:49.040
For what other reason would you come on the show?
05:29:50.980
To promote my lingerie brand is the original reason.
05:29:52.940
So, okay, you're trying to get more followers so that you can promote your lingerie brand.
05:29:58.900
Bro, what, wait, you're on here to promote your fucking lingerie brand?
05:30:03.140
You realize, like, the majority of the audience is, like, 90% dudes?
05:30:07.040
If I was going to promote anything, that's what it would be.
05:30:09.000
It's not on here to promote my OnlyFans, but I came on here to have...
05:30:12.400
Bro, August, in August of 2024, there's a photo of you...
05:30:47.420
I don't recall anywhere in the notes you saying you didn't want any of this stuff to come
05:30:56.620
Honestly, but at least you're taking ownership of it, and that is the exact difference.
05:31:01.720
So, I actually sent that to Brian before I even discussed being on the show.
05:31:07.140
And then I had said, like, I feel like people need to talk about the consequences, that they
05:31:16.800
I wasn't talking about myself, but I was like, I wish you would have more people on
05:31:26.040
Because so many girls come on and act like, I'm fine with it.
05:31:33.340
So, you also said there's so much regret, so much shame, so much degradation in sexualizing
05:31:42.480
If possible, you should get some women on the show who were in and got out and are bold
05:31:46.460
enough to be honest about the effects being in an industry like that will have on their
05:31:50.120
future relationships and other aspects of their life.
05:31:56.100
And for other young, impressionable girls watching, I think it would be powerful and responsible
05:32:00.300
to expose some of the darker aspects of OF, adult content, et cetera.
05:32:14.980
Did you used to do adult content or was it more like the bikini barista escorting?
05:32:21.940
And then, okay, as far as that, escorting, I was more or less like a couple sugar daddies.
05:32:35.120
That's kind of why I was like, but prostitution.
05:32:55.060
And if you don't regret it, you become very calloused.
05:32:59.120
I think you're selling your soul in order to...
05:33:04.000
It's like a slippery slope and it starts bleeding into other aspects of your life and you make
05:33:09.020
excuse after excuse after excuse and then eventually you just do whatever you want and
05:33:14.820
But if you don't think that God judges you, then you're holding yourself to a different
05:33:21.480
And like I said, I don't think it has anything to do with God loving you.
05:33:27.500
Okay, if you're a Christian and you look at things from a biblical perspective, God has
05:33:32.300
these rules and these things that we call sin in place to protect us.
05:33:37.820
And I will say in your defense, I don't think that your parents did a good job of teaching
05:33:44.940
you that there are consequences for your actions and that's why you don't think that God is going
05:33:49.000
to judge you because your parents didn't judge you.
05:33:51.440
Honestly, I think that your parents failed in that.
05:33:57.040
That doesn't really matter to me because I'm a very happy person.
05:34:01.180
I've never been happier in my life and I love my parents.
05:34:04.560
I mean, you can be a serial killer and be happy.
05:34:08.040
And I'm really grateful for the way my parents raised me and who I am today.
05:34:20.500
I mean, not that I surround myself with a lot of sex workers or anything, but I see you
05:34:25.800
and I'm like, I think you're absolutely stunning in the way that you present yourself and it
05:34:38.300
Brian, I don't need your side commentary, okay?
05:34:42.780
And it blows my mind because the only thing I can think is you actually thoroughly enjoy
05:34:48.540
But then it's the other hand because you're not taking ownership of something that is the
05:35:09.060
Clearly, and if that's it, that she enjoys what she does and it's a business...
05:35:12.580
You know, it's got its business purposes and, you know, we can say jokes on us.
05:35:22.440
We might get a $1,000, you know, donation if you just admit it.
05:35:30.820
I mean, because you got the dupe smirk on your face.
05:35:34.840
But I thought you just said that you would do photos for free.
05:35:43.780
No, but you literally have the dupe smirk on your face.
05:36:14.220
I actually thought you were going to like me when I came on here.
05:36:18.600
I thought you were going to like me, like, as a person.
05:36:28.960
No, you haven't, like, just quit and you're taking a here.
05:36:37.640
I think it's good publicity for the show because it's finally a panel that's all actually interacting
05:36:43.580
because I'm going to say, the last few shows, this panel is interacting as a whole.
05:36:49.880
I mean, not discrediting the show, but the last two shows...
05:37:09.940
If somebody had a video of me online and then I didn't know it was...
05:37:21.420
If somebody had a video of me online and then I didn't know about it and then they brought
05:37:25.800
it up at the table, I would be absolutely guising it.
05:37:29.860
You're sitting there, like, smiling because this is what you wanted.
05:37:36.800
I'm just used to, like, people treating me like that.
05:37:51.160
It was just a question and now it's, like, now it seems so factual.
05:37:54.980
If we have an OF girl on and she's honest, even if she, like, disagrees with our viewpoints,
05:38:01.280
worldview, if she's honest, that's 100% respectable.
05:38:05.800
We've had women who, I mean, it's looking like the evidence...
05:38:12.000
The evidence is pointing, allegedly, towards you being a full-blown fucking escort.
05:38:19.080
We've had women on who work at brothels who've had thousands, thousands, miles of penis.
05:38:27.300
And they come on and they're cool and they're honest and we show them respect.
05:38:35.820
Maybe we joke about the mileage of the penis they've had, but that's the extent of it.
05:38:46.220
I just want to say, I'm personally not judging you.
05:39:02.620
And your husband, he's not religious or a Christian.
05:39:05.560
You said he's got, like, seven felonies from the past.
05:39:22.520
You met him through his lawyer, who at the time, I guess I was dating.
05:39:30.700
And you said, I guess I was just with the lawyer for the money, being honest.
05:39:40.760
So, she was dating the lawyer, and then you met...
05:39:47.380
I don't know if he was practicing criminal defense a lot, but, yes, I met my husband
05:39:57.800
Did you, like, walk into his work and be like, here, honey, here's your lunch, and I
05:40:11.240
But you said you were with a lawyer for the money, to be honest?
05:40:16.380
It was, like, a, you know, kind of sugar daddy-ish situation.
05:40:31.240
Those men were paying you at the same time, because he was paying the lawyer, and then
05:41:00.540
It was just the other stuff that I was hoping to not exactly...
05:41:10.520
Obviously, I wouldn't have told him if I didn't think it might...
05:41:13.060
I mean, it came out in good graces, I would say.
05:41:15.520
I wouldn't have told him if I didn't think it might have come out.
05:41:17.920
But at the time, I was saying, hey, I used to do this, and it really...
05:41:21.980
It bothers me that so many people make it look glamorous.
05:41:26.840
But also, in fairness, you didn't want it coming out through the chat, right?
05:41:33.780
If somebody that was watching knew that you didn't put something out, and then it comes
05:41:39.560
So, I like your show, and I just wish that I could see people more like me on there,
05:41:56.120
You said, one of the first things he ever told me is he had no interest in dating girls.
05:42:02.080
We were pretty much all sluts and terrible people, lol, and he hadn't even looked twice
05:42:12.120
Was this after he called all women sluts or before?
05:42:16.120
Like, one of our first interactions, like, I went to his house and...
05:42:37.520
He had a baby's mom from five years, and he was like, I haven't been with a girl for
05:42:42.880
I don't like girls, really, because they're, you know...
05:42:49.260
Wait, like, he doesn't like girls as in he likes men?
05:43:06.520
So his original first baby's mom had left him and dipped out and left him with two daughters.
05:43:12.420
One of them was, like, two or three weeks old at the time.
05:43:16.280
And, you know, so after that, he just pretty much was like, I have my daughters, I have my
05:43:33.040
I was like, that's maybe why he got the felonies.
05:43:47.960
Me and my husband didn't get together until after the lawyer lost the case.
05:44:00.840
And my husband thought he did it, like, kind of on purpose.
05:44:07.680
The lawyer who you're dating lost the case intentionally because he knew that you were seeing...
05:44:16.020
But I think he had an indication that I liked him.
05:44:18.640
Were you cheating on him, or you talked about it before you got with the...
05:44:30.500
When we said on this table, I never thought this would come out.
05:44:32.500
How do you go from dating a lawyer to interacting with one of his clients?
05:44:41.960
The lawyer knew that I had an issue with substance abuse.
05:44:50.420
I don't understand why the defense lawyer would introduce y'all.
05:45:04.660
The lawyer knew that I had an issue with substance abuse.
05:45:16.480
And he thought it was a good idea to introduce y'all.
05:45:24.940
He understood that there wouldn't be any possibility whatsoever that I would.
05:45:42.200
I can't understand being a lawyer and introducing criminals to someone you're-
05:45:52.920
Like, were you like kicking it at the office and you saw your now husband walk in?
05:46:00.140
No, what actually happened is, um, we met in the Red Robin parking lot for the first
05:46:19.700
After he's like, oh, maybe you, like, lawyer, ex-lawyer guy said-
05:46:23.900
The ex-lawyer said that my ex-ish, the lawyer, was like, oh, meet someone else, who else is
05:46:45.460
Whoever this lawyer is, he needs to be disbarred.
05:46:51.580
Who would put their girlfriend in a situation like that?
05:46:54.740
I don't want to talk about anything about that because that's not, you know, that's not
05:47:02.980
Like he wanted to be cucked by one of his criminal-
05:47:05.440
A cuck is a guy that gets off on having another guy.
05:47:08.460
I think what it was is like he genuinely knew that I was, you know, an addict and he was just
05:47:17.880
But like, oh, hey, I've got this client that would be a good, you know, replacement for
05:47:25.840
No, I didn't really like him either though, you know?
05:47:30.580
Yeah, Chad, what do you think about this story?
05:47:34.240
You shouldn't have put someone in a position where they're just alone-
05:47:36.660
I think everyone is in fault for their own actions.
05:47:40.480
That's, I think, yeah, everyone is a part to play, for sure.
05:47:48.080
Was like the parking lot, did they have those like flickering lights where the lights were
05:47:57.260
Was there somebody like ODing behind the dumpster too?
05:48:01.680
Imagine like knowing he's being charged and then he still gets you.
05:48:05.800
Yeah, and I thought the first time I met him, well, he thought I was like working for the
05:48:20.520
This is some Shakespeare love story shit right here.
05:48:23.640
Well, so, okay, you said you were used to simps.
05:48:26.700
This is after, you know, he said all these things.
05:48:29.900
You said you were used to simps and he genuinely didn't want anything from me and had zero
05:48:47.440
Oh, you were buying illicit substances from him.
05:48:58.120
Wait, is that why your lawyer got you linked up?
05:49:07.220
That's what I thought too, until she dropped the bond.
05:49:12.440
The lawyer was like, I got a client who can score you some.
05:49:18.280
Like I said, I stand behind my statement and he needs to get to spark.
05:49:20.660
Hold on, I'm going to send something crazy for this one.
05:49:26.580
I was going to say something, but I'm not sure.
05:49:30.720
When we finally did go out together on our first date, which basically only happened
05:49:34.680
because he was pissed at the lawyer initially, we got pulled over and we both got arrested.
05:49:57.740
He sat on his dash in his car and bailed myself out of jail a couple days later with his money.
05:50:06.920
He was waiting outside the jail for me at midnight when I finally got out.
05:50:10.800
We were boyfriend, girlfriend after that, and I cleaned up my life for him.
05:50:27.020
There's a lot we could get into, but it would be better with him.
05:50:46.280
That was me trying to get him to come on with me.
05:51:00.480
And then he has two daughters from a previous relationship.
05:51:46.820
Marriage kind of hooking up right away when you have.
05:51:57.680
Just because, like, my husband has the same viewpoint as you.
05:52:05.500
Oh, so, like I said, I told him, well, I want to get married to you.
05:52:32.820
It's more of a different type of bond than just, you know.
05:52:57.740
But, like, your priorities and your values obviously change.
05:53:00.800
And I just couldn't be with him while he was doing all that.
05:53:04.240
And then when he got sober is when I said, you know.
05:53:15.880
I don't want to do this unless I know for sure that that's where we're going to be.
05:53:23.420
But so you're discriminating as far as a marriage goes.
05:53:27.340
I really, if a girl came to me and was like, I was dating her.
05:53:58.180
I'd say like, okay, okay, oh my God, this is so cringe.
05:54:02.940
I would play, oh my God, I don't even know where I was going to start.
05:54:17.560
And I said, okay, well, I hope you change your mind.
05:54:20.160
And we stayed together for three years after that.
05:54:22.680
And then eventually one day he's like, okay, it's time to get married.
05:54:25.620
And I didn't have to like push it or convince him or anything, but I convinced him that I'm
05:54:31.320
So basically it's not so much like I disagree with you.
05:54:34.140
I just think that any girl that would, you know, I'm encouraging that if a girl did care
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and whatever, and that was important to her, that it's not necessarily 100% off the table.
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It's 100% off the table unless she makes more than me.
05:54:55.760
Well, I'm just saying that's what they all say.
05:54:58.900
But see, I don't really think that's a good dating strategy.
05:55:03.840
Like a lot of dudes will say certain things, think certain things, but a lot of guys, they're
05:55:11.320
one blow job away from going back to the plantation.
05:55:15.920
These guys could be the most, oh, fucking, I'm so red pill, bro.
05:55:21.160
A lot of these dudes, they're one BJ away from back to the plantation.
05:55:28.520
So, it's like guys will be like, oh, I will, you know, I have these XYZ expectations of
05:55:35.560
a woman and I'm not going to tolerate certain behavior.
05:55:39.020
And, or like they could, there's guys who are like black pill, I don't know if you guys
05:55:44.420
know what this is, or like MGTOW, where they're like, I'm swearing off women, blah, blah, blah.
05:55:49.360
But then like a girl comes along and treats them well, treats them nice.
05:55:54.260
So, they're one BJ away from going back to the plantation.
05:56:06.420
But like my point, I guess, is like there's, there is compromise and it, a woman can show
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her value and her worth to a man and subtly change his mind in certain things, especially
05:56:22.980
Like she doesn't have to be like, you're going to marry me or I'm going to walk away and
05:56:28.600
Like you can subtly convince somebody that, okay, maybe, maybe I value you in our relationship
05:56:35.160
enough that I know marriage is super important to you.
05:56:37.540
And you've shown your commitment to me and that you'll be with me even if we don't get
05:56:44.580
But I could just turn this around on the woman and be like, well, if you really are willing
05:56:49.440
to be so committed to me, then you won't have to get married to me.
05:56:53.560
That's how you show your commitment to me is by not needing marriage.
05:57:00.180
And then my husband decided, okay, I think I do want to marry you.
05:57:11.520
So let's see, hooking up right away when you've had, you may have had a promiscuous past.
05:57:22.820
Oh, I just think that's, I just think it's really hard to objectively rate yourself on a
05:57:31.220
I mean, I think about it like, um, I don't know.
05:57:38.200
If you were going to rate it on a scale of one to 10 is probably a 10.
05:57:47.820
Not Seattle specifically, but Mount Rainier and you know, whatever the Pacific Northwest.
05:57:55.000
And that might, that's might not be your gig, but I'm just saying like, so is, so are certain
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aspects of Florida, but they're so different and they're so, or California.
05:58:09.720
So I think it just depends so much on like the nature of the person that's looking at
05:58:17.380
because I've seen so many guys on here be like, Oh, Anna to arm is, she's a 10.
05:58:22.460
And I'm like, I don't think that you don't think that, you know what I mean?
05:58:26.700
Obviously there are certain aspects that we can all say certain things are beautiful.
05:58:32.300
So I just think there's, it's needs to get a lot more nuanced.
05:58:51.160
I'm going to send it to you in the private chat.
05:58:54.000
So, I mean, there is some objectivity when it comes to physical attractiveness of beauty.
05:59:00.660
So this is from a Reddit called, a subreddit called True Rate Man.
05:59:11.480
Oh, can you just open the new tab so we have the whole thing?
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So you have, we won't read the whole thing, but facial harmony, mid-face ratio, eye area, skin, features, bones, the rest.
06:00:15.480
Skin, features, face shape, nose, lips, et cetera.
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There should be an app where you put your face in it and they can.
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Anyways, there is certainly objectivity when it comes to physical beauty, but you also, you wrote primary victim of war.
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That was a disagreement with so many people that I hear say anything but men.
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And I have good, I feel like I have some good other reasons that I don't hear get brought up a lot.
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But it's like men also get their legs blown off and then their wives leave them.
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And then they have PTSD and then they're homeless on the street, you know, living near like a VA and stuff like that.
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You see that and it's like, no, in every instance, no matter what, I think men 100% are the primary victim of war.
06:01:39.020
And then you said, wait, do you have a main opposition toward age gap relationships?
06:01:45.000
And you said, but you do disagree with people saying it's easier for older men to manipulate younger women.
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So, no, I have a disagreement with age gap relationships.
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And then I also do think that it's easier for younger women to manipulate older men.
06:02:07.020
But I do still, I do still have disagreements with age gap.
06:02:12.540
And going around the table, let me open it up to the panel.
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Would you date somebody older than you, like decently older than you?
06:02:50.860
So I would have trouble dating somebody who's like my dad's age.
06:02:54.860
But I think other people are free to do what they want.
06:03:32.520
But I think that it depends on what stage of life you are.
06:03:35.320
You know, if you're 18 and somebody 40 wants to date you, you know, it's a little bit.
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It doesn't matter if it's a woman who's older or a man who's older.
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I just think there's such an imbalance in terms of life experiences and just their development.
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I just, like, give the kid a chance to, like, have his brain develop.
06:03:56.240
Your brain doesn't fully develop until you're 25.
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Like, just leave the kids alone until they're 25.
06:04:04.860
Because your brain, to me, you're a kid until your brain is fully cooked.
06:04:10.740
Your frontal lobe isn't fully developed until a certain age.
06:04:12.920
Okay, so should people not be able to vote until they're 25?
06:04:19.780
No, I think that, I think waiting until you're 25 to vote?
06:04:23.060
Should they not be able to sign a legally binding contract until they're 25?
06:04:31.320
You know, like, the age of majority hasn't changed since when?
06:04:45.920
So, what's the parameter on your age bracket for, like, where there is a differential?
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Between, like, what age is too high or too low?
06:04:54.340
Well, I think that if you are 18 and the person who is interested in you is 45, I think there's some experiential gaps.
06:05:20.160
I'm saying, like, when there are, when it's a huge gap.
06:05:23.380
So, like, in your 20s and 30s, you're trying to find yourself.
06:05:26.780
So, if you're in your late teens and you're in your early 20s, you know, these are your major growth and development times.
06:05:33.820
And so, I think that you should be able to experience life.
06:05:36.520
And then, what are you, did you lay out your arguments for this?
06:05:39.640
So, I don't really necessarily have, like, a moral argument.
06:05:47.140
I think it's very ideal for a man and a woman to both marry somewhat younger and stay together.
06:05:54.900
Because I just think, like, oh, my goodness, if I had dated a guy that was, like, 50 when I was 20, then by the time, yes, I can give him children.
06:06:02.940
But then he's going to be, like, a decrepit old man.
06:06:06.180
You know, he can't, like, play with the kids the same way.
06:06:09.880
He can't, like, go and do, I'm not saying 50 is, but by the time the kid is 20 or whatever, he's, like, in on his deathbed.
06:06:17.880
So, I mean, I think, so are you approaching it from what's most optimal?
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I just think it's most, and a lot of people say reasons why they agree and why they think age gap relationships are good.
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But I just think, like, seeing my husband playing with our kids and seeing, like, even just in the past five years, you know, he skateboarded, of course, skateboarded and stuff like that a lot.
06:06:40.040
You know, and, like, each year those things do get more challenging.
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So, like, doing all those things with your boys or with your kids, I think it's good for men to have kids young and for women to have kids young and for them to stay together and raise the kids young.
06:06:58.520
I mean, I actually don't disagree with this, that probably the most optimal relationship dynamic will be when people are closer in age.
06:07:10.860
But I don't think there's anything wrong with relationships where there is an age gap.
06:07:16.920
But I do think it's probably most optimal when the age is the same.
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It doesn't give me the ick and, like, okay, my dad is divorced, and if he were to marry somebody slightly older than me or whatever, I'd be like, go ahead.
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Like, I think it's more ideal for a man and a woman.
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I was going to say, I think it's most optimal for the man to be five to ten years older.
06:08:00.840
Just because there's – he's had more time to develop resources and had more time to become a better leader and a better member of society.
06:08:07.740
And then for a woman, I don't think that's necessarily too relevant when it comes to having a family.
06:08:15.800
Ten – I think if a guy marries – or if a guy meets a girl young and doesn't have those resources, I don't think anybody should discourage him from wanting to marry her.
06:08:29.640
Optimally, the guy would be a little bit more –
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I've had some younger guys approach me for dating.
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And the thing is, is they can't lead me because I have more life experience than them.
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And I can do my best to support them, but it always creates –
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You can't really respect the guy if you feel like you're leading and you have more experience and you're making decisions.
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I'm saying what I've seen is a lack of maturity.
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But whenever those same guys date a younger girl, she's even less mature when he has more life experience so he can lead her, even though he's not exactly where he needs to be.
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Because he has more experience than her, it just kind of flows better.
06:09:35.880
What's most optimal for the man is to date, like, if he's 30, would be to date, like, between 20 and 25.
06:09:45.640
But what might be most optimal for the woman, assuming she can find this sort of relationship she wants at this age, I do think it would actually be most optimal –
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I feel like I'm almost arguing against myself here.
06:10:04.300
I don't know if that makes sense, but, like, just thinking about it.
06:10:09.620
Can I – can we go around and ask for the people who are single what they think the most challenging thing about dating in this dating climate?
06:10:18.540
Well, I got to stay on the age gap thing for a little bit here, but we can get to that.
06:10:24.180
So let's just even – for those of you who think that – or do have some objections to age gap relationships, we can actually just go ahead and grant your objections.
06:10:37.960
So I'd like to hear, like, those of you who do object to age gap relationships, can you make a compelling argument in terms of the benefit to the man for why he should date, say, a 35-year-old over a 25-year-old?
06:10:56.660
I would argue that it's better to date a younger woman, especially if you value having, like, a family and reproducing because from a biological standpoint, like, younger women reproduce better, I think.
06:11:14.440
Like I said, if my dad wanted to date somebody significantly younger than him, I would be like, yeah, that's great for you.
06:11:20.500
So for her, though, she just has to know, you know, he's going to get older every year, and that's, you know, if that's what you want, that's what you want.
06:11:29.100
What was the thing that you wanted to come in on then?
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I think the only time I think that there's something wrong with dating someone who is a lot younger is when there's no intention of marriage.
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So a lot of these guys, these older guys, they're like, I want an innocent woman, and they're like, that's why I want to date a young woman, but they're not marrying that woman.
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Because they're like, well, if they plan on giving her children, if that's, I mean, if she doesn't want kids.
06:12:07.080
And he's just going to give her kids and not marry her?
06:12:15.360
I mean, people can do what they want, but I would not want to have a child out of wedlock.
06:12:23.000
Well, if she's fine with it, then two adults can do what two adults do.
06:12:29.620
But you seem, even if she's open to it, you still would object to a man who doesn't want to get married pursuing a woman who's, you know, he's 30, she's 20, something like that.
06:12:42.500
If she's not interested in marriage, so I think that young girls, I don't want to say are more easily manipulated.
06:12:54.920
They are more malleable, which isn't a bad thing, especially not for a man.
06:13:01.620
But I feel like he's robbing her of the marriage and the kids and all of that if he has no intentions of doing that.
06:13:12.320
Now, if she genuinely does not want that, then that's on her.
06:13:17.540
But I think a lot of young girls will be like, oh, yeah, I don't want that, and then later on regret it, you know, that they didn't do it that way.
06:13:26.800
Yeah, I don't think the burden of responsibility is really on the guy there, because a lot of young chicks just want to go on boats and stuff, you know.
06:13:33.720
They just want to go on boats and go traveling, and they get some older sugar daddy, and that's what they do.
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And then if they regret it later, it's like you should have had some foresight.
06:13:40.760
Well, that's kind of why I said, too, I think that older men can sometimes be more easily manipulated instead of the other way around.
06:13:50.380
Because when I was a younger woman and had a lot of older men hitting on me, I would kind of look at them like, granted, I wasn't in the best state of mind, but kind of like, these guys are like suckers.
06:14:02.500
And they're so like, oh, you're so cute and pretty and innocent.
06:14:11.340
I'm not saying that they aren't, but I'm just saying, like, I remember thinking, like, they were more, almost more gentlemanly than guys your age that would be more, like, look at you as, they look at you like you're a young, innocent girl.
06:14:30.620
And then, like, guys your age look at you like a hookup or whatever.
06:14:34.360
But to your point, right, you just said, like, oh, women in that younger age bracket are looking to be, like, on boats, partying, doing that stuff.
06:14:42.480
So let's say that you have a guy between 25 and 30, and he's looking at women in the dynamic of 20 to 25, because that's what the ideal, and that's, like, when women are in their prime.
06:14:54.060
But those women, statistically now, are not getting married and wanting to have kids, because they're delaying that.
06:15:00.900
I think that the majority of them are completely not relationship material.
06:15:05.480
Like, we walked around the streets last night of Santa Barbara in the IRL, and there wouldn't be one single one of those girls that we met last night that I didn't even take on a date.
06:15:18.300
So that's, I guess that's my point, is, right, like, you're looking for the woman, not necessarily, like, you, because you said...
06:15:23.860
But you do get, like, girls in that age bracket who are more switched on and who do have better intentions, though.
06:15:39.080
But, uh, you were making a point, like, also, women, they're more socially attuned than men.
06:15:46.240
So this idea, like, I feel like women can navigate social situations.
06:15:51.720
Like, women are more mature, they mature faster, uh, they mature at a younger, younger age, uh, mentally, or whatever.
06:15:59.240
Uh, so all this stuff about, like, these older guys taking advantage of younger women.
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Like, women are way more socially calibrated than men.
06:16:07.520
I've sometimes looked, I've, I have sometimes, I've sometimes looked at an older, yeah, exactly.
06:16:19.820
I've sometimes looked at people and been like...
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Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
06:16:32.040
I've looked at people and been like, oh, you're just kind of a money bag, like, I could get you.
06:16:35.220
Like, I was, I, I have done that, and I'm being honest.
06:16:38.120
I was at an, uh, I was shopping at Air One, and some guy comes out, like, an older guy, he looks at me, he goes, do I know you from somewhere or whatever, starts hitting on me, and then he hands me $100 and said, can I buy you a smoothie?
06:16:57.780
I, sometimes when I'm not interested in a guy, I'll just...
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We're, like, close, and she just, like, it just says a joke.
06:17:08.960
So then the guy, like, guy, like, older guys sometimes just want to, you know?
06:17:14.800
He calls my mom, he, she goes, I don't know her, and then he goes, well, you sound kind of cute, too.
06:17:29.840
Whenever I see guys who get swindled by older chicks, I always think...
06:17:35.140
Well, because look at Ian Gary, for example, who's a UFC fighter.
06:17:38.660
He's, like, a 26-year-old dude who's shacked up with, like, a 40-year-old woman.
06:17:43.780
And if he wants to do that, I mean, by all means.
06:17:46.060
But I think that young guys who have never been in a situation where they have a lot of options, if they get an attractive older woman, she can pretty easily wrangle him with sex, you know?
06:17:57.400
Like, an experienced guy, and especially a guy like that who's coming up and who's going to be a world champion one day, I really think that, like, he got swindled.
06:18:06.520
Who's the One Direction guy who's dating the older girl as well?
06:18:29.220
Hey, Andrew, I don't know if you're tuning in, but, Andrew, I hope you had a good stream, man.
06:18:38.580
There's a number of people that also are in the MILF.
06:18:43.900
No, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.
06:18:45.860
I'm saying you're saying swindle, but there's also guys that like that, like purposefully.
06:18:49.940
I think that young chicks have so many options that they're less likely to actually get manipulated
06:18:54.700
by an older guy, whereas I think young guys who can be much more easily manipulated by pussy.
06:19:04.100
I think it was about Aaron Taylor Johnson and that one lady he's dating.
06:19:16.400
He's dating like a 90-year-old lady and he's like a very young, like attractive looking.
06:19:35.060
Lana Del Rey's dating an older guy and she said it's age gap autumn.
06:19:40.860
They've always got a freaking season for it, haven't they?
06:19:42.800
Yeah, hot girl summer, brats summer, age gap summer.
06:19:45.700
But like, it's interesting, this whole like easier to manipulate thing.
06:19:49.380
But what's interesting to me, like if we look at the financial component of some relationships,
06:19:56.000
who's more likely to be spending money on the other person?
06:20:01.220
So like, wouldn't that be a metric by which we could determine who's more easy to manipulate?
06:20:06.400
If you're able to sucker a guy out of like $100 dinner, $1,000 dinner, what's that
06:20:11.660
Nobu or whatever the fuck it is, men spend way more on money than women ever spend on
06:20:20.140
So this whole argument of easier to manipulate, men are so desperate for women, they're willing
06:20:28.720
Women are not willing to, generally speaking, to spend money in pursuit of getting a man.
06:20:36.460
Yeah, you could just make the argument that men are easier to manipulate.
06:20:40.160
They're so desperate that they're willing to spend money to get a woman.
06:20:45.640
They're willing to spend money for their time, for their attention.
06:20:48.380
Now, this is getting into the realm of prostitution.
06:20:50.860
But women don't have this level of desperation.
06:20:59.520
Like for you, how desperate would you have to feel to be like, damn, I got to pay money
06:21:11.160
So, well, like I'm saying, like if I go on a date with a girl, like it's not like a set
06:21:17.620
So I'm saying like, it's kind of, it's a different ballpark.
06:21:21.680
Right, but I guess what I'm trying to get at is that men are much more motivated to try
06:21:27.940
to get female attention, whether it be romantic or sexual, that they're willing to pay for
06:21:33.200
it, which opens, if men, like if you are kind of like lukewarm about something, it's
06:21:40.940
Like if you're kind of like, I could take it or leave it, it's very hard to manipulate
06:21:48.740
But if you're a dude and you're like, I am willing to throw my fucking life away for
06:22:01.000
That level of desire, and men have a much higher sex drive.
06:22:08.240
Men are much more motivated than women are when it comes to this.
06:22:14.260
So if you're more motivated, if you have a higher desire, you have a higher drive for
06:22:30.960
Even if you're dating a man your age, you're all fucking predators.
06:23:03.220
You said that you're a businesswoman who believes in traditional values, but thrust, thrust?
06:23:17.220
Well, you said, okay, into independence because of choices I made at a young age.
06:23:21.920
Because of who I married and the things, my ex-husband.
06:23:27.040
You said you could add some heat to the podcast because my comments tend to get a lot of different
06:23:35.820
The fact that everyone wants more than they offer.
06:23:38.340
You said people aren't self-aware and know what they bring to the table or relationship
06:23:45.520
Men want traditional women without being a traditional man, and women want to be kept
06:23:53.260
Everyone seems to want more than they can offer.
06:23:55.220
However, you're a big fan of intentional rotational dating.
06:24:01.800
And that seems to get most men irritated because I'm a single mom.
06:24:05.600
Despite the fact my ex-husband proposed after six months, no physical intimacy, and my son
06:24:13.560
So when you say rotational dating, what do you mean?
06:24:16.620
So that kind of goes back to what y'all were talking about, how you have that standard
06:24:22.020
that if by the second date she's not cutting off all men, that you wouldn't go on another
06:24:31.520
It's not that she has to cut off the men that she's already seeing on the second date.
06:24:36.520
I don't want any dudes in the picture to begin with.
06:24:46.000
But women can also say, until you have shown me that you are worth dropping all prospects,
06:25:02.900
But that's why I say without physical intimacy, because you can't say that and then be sleeping
06:25:09.780
Just like you said, there are some women who will sleep with a guy and then be dating other
06:25:18.000
But here's the other thing, because I know you've mentioned this.
06:25:23.740
For me personally, I do not expect dinner dates.
06:25:31.080
We can go and do things that don't necessarily cost a lot of money.
06:25:46.360
A hike date sounds like a really good way to get murdered.
06:26:19.820
Like, because you know how you have people just message...
06:26:24.020
But women always have men messaging them, right?
06:26:26.560
But out of the guys who are genuinely trying to get to know me, maybe three, sometimes five.
06:26:43.600
And you don't have to agree, but that's just how I...
06:26:56.700
So have you ever gone on a date, and then the next day you went on a date with somebody else?
06:27:01.100
Have you ever been on two dates in the same day with, like, different guys?
06:27:12.760
This date, this is, oh, my God, I really like this girl.
06:27:16.200
And then you find out, right after you gave her, like, the ass-out hug, because she's,
06:27:22.620
like, kind of playing coy or whatever, you give her the ass-out hug.
06:27:31.180
She went out on a date with another guy right after you.
06:27:47.680
I think I heard you on another podcast explain that, and I was like, okay, I see what you
06:28:03.240
Do you have a backup plan in place if they cancel?
06:28:17.320
People make it out when I say, okay, I'd rather...
06:28:19.900
I strongly prefer a woman who's not involved with another guy.
06:28:23.360
Strongly prefer a woman who, after the first date, she cuts it off if she is
06:28:27.500
like, talking or dating another guy I'm not sleeping with because that's an
06:28:33.820
But I think like, okay, let's actually break this down.
06:28:40.220
If you went on one date a week, that's 52 men in a year.
06:28:47.760
And so, like, let's say you're on a first date.
06:28:52.160
Next week, you go on another date with another guy.
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Without having to, like, simultaneously be, like, dating three dudes at the same time.
06:29:05.080
In the back in the 1950s, a chick would, like, maybe go on three first dates.
06:29:15.100
Now, people gotta go on, like, 300 first dates before they...
06:29:20.100
Goddamn, bro, Desmond, your chicken smells like shit.
06:29:33.740
He doesn't want to be dating a girl who's dating.
06:29:38.260
If you date somebody, go on one or two dates, three dates over the course of a few weeks.
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And if you don't like them, drop them and don't be dating people in between.
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Yeah, if you don't like me on the second or third date, cut it off and then move on to the next guy.
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So, are you looking for somebody that's, like, just solely interested in pursuing a relationship with you?
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I really like it when a girl demonstrates high levels of interest.
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I'll ask them, like, pick me up from the airport.
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When you first meet them, you're going to ask them to pick you up from the airport?
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So, let me ask you, what is it that you're reciprocating to get an Uber?
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What if she says she'll call the Uber for you, but she won't go pick you up?
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Like, how are you reciprocating if you ask them to do things for you?
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I mean, I would probably do whatever it's fine.
06:31:24.540
I mean, I would probably do whatever it's fine.
06:31:31.180
I'll take the lead and do whatever we need to do.
06:31:33.640
So, she has to just trust that you're going to do that?
06:31:36.280
Well, something that I value is acts of service.
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So, I'll ask them to do something for me at the start.
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And if they don't do it, then I think that's a turn off for me.
06:31:46.620
So, when you go on your first date, what types of topics are you all discussing?
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For me, my first date, I want to know if we share the same morals, if we're going in the same direction in life, and if we have anything in common.
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And typically, by the first date, I pretty much know if it's going to proceed on further from that.
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Or at least, like, maybe, like, come meet me where I am.
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Because I find that if they don't want to make the effort, then often it signifies that they're really entitled.
06:32:18.060
Would you pick the girl up if she asked you for a state?
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If it was in my city, and if they came to my city, and if I'd been tortured...
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No, just, like, you had plans, and she's like, let's say you were here, you live here, she's coming home from New York, but you had plans to meet that day.
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She's like, oh, I got home, will you pick me up, and we hang out?
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For the amount of responsibility women have in choosing the right partner, we need more than just one date and just be like you.
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And the idea that we're supposed to know, but then at the same time, we clearly don't know.
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Like, there's lots of people who don't know how to do this date thing, and you want to have that level of interest, like, just you, because you want it.
06:33:30.620
You want to see burning desire from the day dot.
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And if they don't do that, and if they're iffing about you, then it means that there's something about you they don't particularly like.
06:33:41.040
Oh, yeah, I don't want a fence-sitter chick who's like on the...
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I need to go on, like, three more dates before I've made a determination.
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I was about to say in love with me, but maybe not.
06:33:56.800
You'd like to have that high level where she's, like, ready to say I love you.
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Instead of putting a time on something, just, like, let things, like, flow.
06:34:12.020
Listen, Brian, that's not truthful, because you would rather it flow than a game.
06:34:22.120
What I'm saying is letting it flow, like, I'm agreeing, like, it's not three dates, two
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dates, or whatever it may be, but just let things happen the way that they're supposed
06:34:35.560
And the way that it's supposed to happen is that we're meant to go on the first date,
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and you're meant to be simpy, and it's meant to mean a lot to you.
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That means that they're, like, pining for this man 24-7 all the time.
06:34:55.920
And do you use simpings with that level of interest?
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It depends on how we have to get one person speaking at the time.
06:35:01.620
I just think that that's a very unrealistic expectation, considering you guys yourselves say
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that women have way more options than men do, so how are you expecting that you're
06:35:10.400
going to find this woman who is obsessed with them?
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If they're not simping, it means that they're out here playing the fields, and they've got
06:35:16.460
all these different options, and you don't really mean much to them.
06:35:39.160
But I'm saying, like, right now, I haven't taken it.
06:35:47.420
I want to go for her and, like, get on her knees for you for after one day.
06:35:56.620
And I think you need a new bow video because this one is going to be overdone.
06:36:05.800
I'm going to give you about one second after you go into my cold plunge.
06:36:10.440
Jake, you were responding to this and then we got off topic.
06:36:14.120
I was saying, in the first few dates, in the dating phase, do you think that it's more
06:36:20.340
natural for the woman to be the one who is adoring and who is looking up to the guy?
06:36:25.300
Or do you think it's the guy who's meant to be...
06:36:26.800
Do you think it's the guy who's meant to be chasing?
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I think that you guys are saying one thing, but if you guys had somebody who was simping
06:36:44.040
on you, and if you weren't returning the attention, they're just texting you all the
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If they were texting us all the time, I wouldn't because I know what it feels like reversed
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Now, why the heck would I not want someone that I actually want to be in a relationship
06:37:20.340
And it's not a question or it's not me trying to play mom on a relationship.
06:37:26.840
You see, I think that women generally tend to want a man who's on his purpose and whose
06:37:30.620
main goal is his purpose in life and they can sort of jump on and be a part of that journey.
06:37:35.320
Whereas men want to be on their purpose and they want a woman who's going to come along
06:37:42.080
So then you agree with what I'm saying is that the woman should...
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Well, I don't know if I'm going to pick you up in the airport.
06:37:53.340
I'd pick you up in the airport, though, by the way.
06:37:56.280
Why is it so important for women to kind of, like, make themselves smaller for you to
06:38:03.980
I don't think it's actually making themselves smaller.
06:38:06.100
I think that it's actually seamlessly going into the natural way that relationships should
06:38:12.680
Women are supposed to be submissive in the relationship.
06:38:16.260
But what I'm saying is that this is not something...
06:38:18.380
This is not information that you establish within less than 10 hours of meeting somebody.
06:38:23.180
Something as important as how you're going to do that for the rest of your life.
06:38:34.140
It takes months for you to get to know somebody.
06:38:43.200
Didn't you say you went on a date with a guy who was prepared to spend, like, $7,500 on
06:39:09.120
I think what y'all are saying is what's best for men.
06:39:14.420
And that's what's best for men is best for the relationship.
06:39:19.760
It's also how women get taken advantage of by the fuck boys.
06:39:23.300
And this is why these gender wars just keep happening.
06:39:50.180
Women simping for men and women adoring men is actually the way that God...
06:39:58.180
...themselves to actually be, like, taking her on.
06:40:12.800
I will admit, whenever I am in a relationship, I simp to my man.
06:40:20.300
But if you like him, you'll start simping right away, and he'll know that you like him.
06:40:35.620
Brian, I know you're going to hate this, but I do have another show tomorrow.
06:40:43.160
Because he doesn't like when girls go on two dates in a row.
06:40:45.280
I will wrap the show up sooner if you just admit that you're a fucking...
06:41:27.640
Is because you lied, you actually have to stay after the show and clean up the whole studio.
06:41:37.260
She has to write it a hundred times on a chalkboard.
06:42:06.520
The only thing degrading is the video of her filleting a man on the internet.
06:42:16.840
That she denies exists, but we've done the fucking...
06:42:40.560
No, we're going to continue the show and you'll sit there, I guess.
06:43:01.280
Bro, they found another BJ and an actual fuck video.
06:43:13.500
She's going to go on this OnlyFans show tomorrow and be like,
06:43:27.320
Since you already did the thing the whole show, will you admit it before you leave?
06:43:39.440
There's a video of you in a bathroom with a red sink.
06:43:50.940
You're having carnal knowledge in a bathroom with a red sink.
06:44:03.660
I'm going to let the shit play until you admit the shit.
06:44:20.180
...success while you're going to wake up and work hard at it.
06:44:50.320
Multiply it by three and that's the real number.
06:45:04.820
Why don't you just sit there quietly and say nothing for the rest of the show?
06:45:26.580
Just because you see somebody and you're like, you.
06:45:32.100
He's like hitting her over the head and dragging her back to the cave.
06:45:39.440
Me and my guy, I was rotationally dating and I told the guys, I said, listen, when I sleep
06:45:48.900
I'm not sleeping with any of you because I'm being very intentional.
06:45:51.360
And one guy rose to, you know, the cream to the top.
06:45:56.820
And six months, we got to know each other really well.
06:46:10.280
When we did have sex, it was freaking incredible.
06:46:12.920
It wasn't awkward or anything because we'd gotten to know each other so well.
06:46:16.860
So the only reason why I don't completely agree with you is because I will admit that I
06:46:20.820
simped for my most recent ex and look at how it turned out.
06:46:56.420
And then he was like, OK, I want to get married.
06:46:59.060
And I was like, OK, then I caved and then we eventually got married and, you know, then
06:47:04.860
Let me try to blast through the remaining notes here.
06:47:08.860
You said, let's see, you agree with about 95 percent of what's said on the show.
06:47:13.760
Back to people in general, including men, aren't traditional anymore.
06:47:19.180
You said you say it's a woman's market currently.
06:47:24.600
Not sure entirely what that means, but y'all were talking about earlier that women are selectors
06:47:28.800
essentially that women just have so many options.
06:47:32.880
I don't think it's ever been a woman's market until the feminist movement.
06:47:36.760
And I think that women have so many options now that they're just I kind of feel bad for
06:47:42.980
Honestly, I think they kind of get the shit out of the stick when it comes to dating.
06:47:47.040
You said there are almost no traditional women and it kind of sucks being a man right now
06:47:52.920
and men hate the fact that I'm overweight and I have options.
06:47:58.000
A lot of guys get really mad because they say if you're a fat single mom that no man's going
06:48:05.500
to want you or this and that doesn't matter if you're, you know, have traditional values
06:48:09.920
And they get very upset because I'm like, I do have options.
06:48:12.980
It's really weird that they put that much energy into telling you that.
06:48:23.440
Wait, when you say you have options, what does that mean?
06:48:35.940
But okay, for example, here's another reason why I think men don't have an issue with pursuing
06:48:42.800
I tell them I'm not going to be sleeping around with anybody and dating them.
06:48:47.060
And two, the moment I think or know that I'm not interested in a man, I will tell him right
06:48:54.020
away because I never want a man to feel like he's simping for me because I feel like that's
06:49:00.040
And if you should just respect the people, why would you even go on a date with someone
06:49:14.920
You said that, uh, you tell people all the time it's the traditional fours time to shine.
06:49:25.720
But the reality is feminism ruined women and porn ruined men.
06:49:31.720
I made a short video on how schools empower girls and emasculate boys.
06:49:35.320
This is exactly why I homeschool my son and I make a lot of sacrifices in order to do so.
06:49:40.320
I would have a very different financial situation.
06:49:45.160
I promised myself I would stay home with my children before I had kids.
06:49:49.200
Uh, you're unfortunately, my son's father became an alcoholic, which has made him into
06:49:53.240
And I don't recognize, so I'm essentially doing it on my own.
06:49:56.780
Unlike most single mothers, though, I do want a man as a head of household, but a good man.
06:50:00.860
I recognize that when I choose my partner, my biggest mistake was choosing a man who didn't
06:50:06.000
A genuine relationship with God, not just I believe in God and God doesn't really care
06:50:21.060
Both sides are ignoring the root cause and their own flaws.
06:50:24.580
You also said how women leave good relationships over feelings and statistics.
06:50:29.620
How we discuss this, how statistics are thrown out about women being the initiators of divorce.
06:50:36.000
But when you dive deep into those statistics and you remove the ones from abuse, infidelity
06:50:44.640
You were a biotech major and I'm really good with statistics because I had to use it along
06:50:50.500
Statistics are a good way to manipulate people if they don't understand them.
06:50:54.720
As much as I am for traditionalism, I'm for honesty and looking at the genuine picture
06:51:00.680
I mean, I'm not sure if, I'm not sure how you came to it being 50-50.
06:51:09.780
So, when you remove, and remember earlier about the 23, I believe it's 23% with abuse.
06:51:18.900
Even if you removed a third of that because people claim abuse and it's not really abuse.
06:51:26.820
But even if you look at these statistics, it is closer to 50-50 unless you're getting into
06:51:34.560
Then it is very much so skewed on the women's side.
06:51:39.040
The higher the education, the more likely she is.
06:51:43.720
So, if you look at the incidence of divorce in homosexual relationships, so the incidence
06:51:50.900
of divorce is the lowest amongst gay relationships.
06:51:54.300
Then you have heterosexual relationships is in between.
06:51:57.780
And then at the very top, when it comes to divorce rates, it's lesbians who have the highest
06:52:03.640
So, when you have two women, divorce rates are the highest.
06:52:12.700
No, you have to just stay there and sit the whole time.
06:52:24.580
No, I think we'll eventually get you to crack and admit that you're an escort slash prostitute
06:52:31.840
Do you always want to discuss it while I leave?
06:52:34.800
So, if you leave, it's not going to get discussed.
06:52:41.740
No, I'm just seeing if I can get some food after this.
06:52:52.140
I feel like you're wanting me to by asking that.
06:52:56.440
Go ahead, sit there and enjoy the rest of the show.
06:53:08.600
I would say that a majority of lesbians are feminist, and I have already expressed that
06:53:15.960
I do not agree with feminist ideas, and I think that most of the women who, okay, like
06:53:24.040
you said, women who say, oh, this is abuse when it's really not abuse, I would say a majority
06:53:29.660
Now, with homosexuals, two gay males, they also tend to have open relationships, and
06:53:49.040
Are you saying they're more likely to stay together because they have open relationships?
06:53:52.280
Because they're both men, and they just want to fuck.
06:53:57.260
I mean, I don't know what it's like with the gays, but I think generally, open relationships
06:54:12.920
Once she's definitely coming back, we're going to wrap the show up soon.
06:54:27.260
Any final thoughts from any panelists here before we get into the roast session?
06:54:30.440
I just kind of want to ask what everybody's type is, because we didn't really get into
06:54:33.600
it other than individual conversations of height or whatever.
06:54:41.560
We talk a lot about physical stuff here, and we don't get asked what our physical types
06:54:57.260
I'm just going to say that all of my exes don't look...
06:55:01.600
There's this meme, and it was like, oh, you have a type, and it shows an alien, and then
06:55:31.580
And for women, I like them to be around my height, and, like, so I don't feel so small.
06:55:38.740
What about height for men, or ethnicity, or eye color, or anything like that?
06:55:53.140
I thought you were saying we're similar height.
06:56:08.560
She has the same name as somebody in my family, and she spells it the same name.
06:56:20.180
We're going to do the roast segment, if you guys want.
06:56:24.920
The TTS is now set to 20, and then we're going to wrap up the show.
06:57:09.060
Out of respect for my kids, who are teenagers, and can probably find this on the internet,
06:57:20.060
That is a conversation between me and my future partner.
06:57:29.380
After he kills a spider and I pick him up from the airport.
06:57:36.060
He has to catch his flight back to Australia soon.
06:57:46.040
That was, like, the first time that worked, by the way.
06:57:56.640
The party of transgenderism, abortion, censorship, assassinations, and tyranny.
06:58:12.220
TTS is $20 if you want to get a little roast in.
06:58:27.700
And that's also something I disagree with, because you have said before,
06:58:31.200
when people don't say their body count, that means it's high.
06:59:01.200
I have three grown kids and one 15-year-old, and there is no way I'm going to be doing
06:59:11.520
You cycle simps with no stuffing because you're deathly afraid of cardio.
06:59:39.400
Some guy underscore you were Brixen Mommy Milk donated $20 and one cent.
06:59:44.460
Brixen, when you gonna start juicing those pecs?
06:59:47.740
Oh, I meant Mommy Milkers that squirt like this.
07:00:17.240
Green shirt immediately jumped to the support role on the topic of being drafted.
07:00:25.660
This shows women shouldn't hold positions on politics.
07:00:34.320
Do you have a response to Warlord 69 in the chat?
07:00:41.460
I can't even pick up AK-47 or whatever they use.
07:00:48.160
I'm not, who am I going to, whose ass am I going to kick?
07:00:50.940
If I have to like work for the war effort, I'll do the laundry.
07:00:54.520
It wouldn't surprise me if that pregnant woman's fifth child's first words are,
07:01:01.080
It has already been subjected to too much degeneracy on this show already.
07:01:11.380
Yeah, hiking to the fucking fridge to look for $15.
07:01:40.620
Uh, would you rather be in the forest alone with a random bear or a random man, starting
07:01:49.220
You said earlier that men are more easily manipulated because we just mindlessly chase
07:01:58.360
I'll have you know I sleep a couple of times a week, too.
07:02:07.700
Can we ask contestant number six, Glumpo, how she would feel if she didn't have breakfast
07:02:21.840
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast today?
07:02:24.860
Uh, sometimes I actually go four days without eating, so I can go without breakfast.
07:02:47.660
Girl, lie about obviously silly things like being related to Hitler.
07:02:59.600
The underscore air underscore BNB underscore girl donated $20.
07:03:10.000
But I would sign a prenup, hit the boat, and done your laundry.
07:03:38.000
I'm surprised you're not asking one of these would you rather,
07:03:43.900
Speaking of which, we never played the bow video.
07:03:51.340
Making a man wait for sex after one night's dance is like if a man paid for all his first dates
07:03:57.400
ever then decided he really liked you, so he is going to make you wait before he pays for your dates.
07:04:06.560
It's like a guy, you're in the line for McDonald's.
07:04:19.040
By the way, they all agree to do the roast session before the beginning of the show.
07:04:35.780
Honestly, though, I'm surprised there's not more people coming to cheer.
07:04:43.340
That's because they're checking out her OnlyFans.
07:04:46.400
She's going to have a thousand new subscribers.
07:05:05.560
Intermittent fasting does not mean occasionally not eating very quickly.
07:05:36.120
The feck bricks and underscore some guy underscore you woo donated $20.01.
07:05:41.660
How come I didn't get a new woo gamer girl noise?
07:05:45.400
Also, girl, with the tattoo on your navel, I can fix you if you bow.
07:06:10.220
Going around the table, would you rather come across a random bear or a random man in the forest?
07:06:31.700
I don't think I ever really got a good answer from Jake for my question.
07:07:25.060
Bear might be the best option with the way society is going.
07:07:42.060
Would you rather go on a date with Glumpo or respect yourself?
07:07:46.200
Glumpo will put you into $80,000 of debt just to feed her.
07:08:02.680
Would you guys rather be in the woods with Desiree or a bear?
07:08:40.360
If I had a video out there of a dude blasting his baby gravy all over my face, I'd know about it.
07:09:11.420
Is this like some guy who's like simping on you who's sending this?
07:09:41.680
Do you guys have like a, that song, is that like a thing with your friend Griffin?
07:09:48.780
I don't, I don't like, I'm not personally friends with this Griffin.
07:10:05.920
Oh, Brenna has some bullshit notes that she wrote, but I'll read them anyways.
07:10:21.960
Just because you file copyright claims on Reddit doesn't remove those videos that you post off
07:10:59.560
You got a Rolex and you didn't know what kind it was?
07:11:09.980
Why would you get a Rolex if you don't know the name of it?
07:11:26.360
Brixen, can you teach me the dance to Magnetic by Illit?
07:11:29.660
That would be you, because I haven't been on the show before.
07:11:37.920
I don't know how to do it, but I've seen that K-pop music video.
07:11:45.260
Brian, I heard you go off about your stupid, ridiculous resume for a Southern male coming
07:12:00.900
We're pretty selective men, but you're welcome to start a YouTube channel and establish some
07:12:20.340
Two blondes were driving to Disneyland when they saw a sign that said Disneyland left.
07:12:26.380
They started to cry and turned around and went home.
07:12:51.540
Glumpo, I know you appreciate how I've been cooking.
07:12:55.180
It's crazy some man decided to humpo the glumpo till she pompo the single kid out of it.
07:13:00.640
Glad you've got more brain than chair two has given.
07:13:44.840
This is actually my ex-girlfriend, believe it or not.
07:14:02.120
She has fake titties, so that was the kind of...
07:14:11.600
I tried to get her to take out the fake titties.
07:14:32.940
She needs to do the household duties with a quickness, son.
07:14:42.840
Unless somebody does the champagne pop for the show, I don't drink.
07:14:55.000
Blonde Lying Escort, there is a video showing the Red Sink video is yours
07:14:59.040
directly in the OF team is also your Septim Piercing Joe video,
07:15:13.040
Can't roast Ava any worse than her boyfriend already did.
07:15:16.800
She's still hooked on a guy that doesn't want her.
07:16:28.200
How are you God-fearing when you obviously lie?
07:16:31.860
Holden of account and cannot admit to being a prostitute.
07:16:40.860
She said that her mom sends her Bible verses every single night, and she can't recite one.
07:17:01.200
If somebody even has a semblance of, like, a background in Christianity, like, your favorite
07:17:06.820
scripture will be, like, you know, John 3, 16 or something.
07:17:11.660
I really just read them and feel them and pray, like...
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I ain't supporting you degenerates with champagne.
07:17:23.660
I support quality content, which bricks and supplies every week.
07:17:27.760
You, on the other hand, are not worth anything.
07:17:34.400
Eva has more bodies than the Arlington Cemetery.
07:17:37.240
She has been ran through more than the Holland Tunnel.
07:17:44.780
I think you meant the girl to the right of me, and that's not how you spell Pokemon.
07:17:56.820
Still think something is in the water in SB making people vote badly.
07:18:19.020
We took it off YouTube because my former partner works for Disney now.
07:18:27.300
Well, if you have samples of you either engaged in debates or any sort of speaking.
07:18:35.680
Brixen, you really do be finding the worst digits.
07:18:41.900
But I am literally at a loss for words for the first time in years.
07:18:57.240
Did you find the thing about the radon in Santa Barbara, bro?
07:19:13.880
The underscore red underscore sink donated $20.
07:19:19.460
She met me one day as she was leaving the bathroom.
07:19:23.320
She got off to my laminar flow when she turned my handles.
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The handle of my plunger is in the shape of Brian's dumpy.
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Does the panel think people are eating cats, ducks, and geese?
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To the panel, if you go out to eat in Santa Barbara and see Brian coming out of a restaurant,
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Madison, job security equals forklift and flatbed license to haul Brian around.
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Blonde lying, the underscore some guy underscore you would.
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Hey lying blonde, be worst mistake of your life.
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You came on a show where pretty much every man in America will know who you are.
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Might make money now, but the wall comes quick.
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I don't know why you would try to roast me in that comment when you're smelling so bad.
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I don't know why you would try to roast me in that comment.
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She tried to say I have STDs and I'm like, girl, you fucking smell.
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She said that I have STDs when the comment was made about her.
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Oh, I said I think you're talking about the girl on the right.
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And coming up with a third grade insult to say that I stink bad.
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I watched the stream last night, didn't see much of Brian,
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but I did hear him out of breath every time he had to take a few steps.
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You are talking about a country where they have eaten humans recently.
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Their own neighbors put up a wall to keep them out.
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He's talking about the Dominican Republic, I think.
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I actually have it on good authority that Ava does not smell.
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And it's actually you who smells, and you're trying to die first.
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Okay, Brian, I hear you, but I'm not good at listening.
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I know you can process plastic in the tension under those ruffles.
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When are you going to get more based Brits on the podcast?
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Ava at least does not look like she smells of lies and co-HK sucking.
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Smelling bad can be fixed with a shower and deodorant.
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I do probably smell bad because I've been sweating a lot, but...
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You know, you can't undo cum in your mouth on the internet.
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If she says she do smell, at least she's not lying.
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I'm going to pretend like you need to just make my dick hurt yourself.
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I will give you a $2 bill if, I know you need it, if you admit, if you admit that you're...
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Give me all the tips from the podcast and I'll do that.
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I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you.
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You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution
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Blond lying the underscore some guy underscore you woo donated $20 and one cent.
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You FKD up, but the patriarchy is here to save you.
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Everything you did will be played back for you at the end.
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Beavo, the cuck that looked like Sid from Ice Age.
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Oh my god, she's lying about the fucking fake titties too.
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She's even lying about the fake- you don't have fake titties?
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She does, however, object to being called a prostitute, even though we've all seen the
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advertisement for escort services, even though she isn't worth the price.
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Here, I'm going to blast through these so I can wrap the show.
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I heard there was a small earthquake in Santa Barbara.
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It was just Brian walking around wheezing like an asthmatic.
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Just let the liar sit there and go for your longest show of record, Brian.
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Maybe we could do one of those like, you know how Twitch there's subathons?
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My wife asked me how I felt about breast augmentations, and I told her my position on the matter is quite simple.
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I have three videos in my face of people eating cats in O from the last two months.
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The propaganda machine hates it with sheer desire to hate Trump.
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If you are smelling anything, it's the leftover dried up crusty baby batter on your breathe from that of video.
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L for the entire world when the most attractive and the best relationship material girls are both heroin addicts.
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They're saying you guys are the most attractive and the best relationship material.
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I'm so tempted to just pull up your Instagram and show that you have fake titties, but I also
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What kind of fake titties are we talking about?
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I just blast through your notes here, just like that guy blasted on your face in the
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Normally, I'm not this vulgar, but it's just like, bro, you're such a liar.
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Creating something meaningful and pouring energy into my career, health, and relationships
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But it's certainly not at the forefront of my mind.
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And feel deeply fulfilled by the life I'm building.
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But in the past few years, I've struggled to find meaningful connections with those who
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I'm patient, waiting for the right one, who compliments my journey when the time is right.
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But would you guys be down to fight each other right now to the death?
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Panel, please call her out more on the hair color that she just lied about.
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Ladies, you joined the army and want out, so you decide to get Prego and use it to get discharged.
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Keep it and be a good human or take trip to the ab clinic and pay with your sign-on bonus.
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This whore could not tell the truth to save her life.
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And women constantly call men narcissistic and sociopaths.
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Detective Brickson going hard on the fake tattoo investigation.
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So, Brenna or Brinkley or whatever the fuck your name is, I don't know.
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Brian, you may be fat, but I'm sure you wish you weren't.
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Oh, my name's Brenna, and I'm a fucking lying whore.
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You strongly disagree with the idea that couples should split the bill on the first date.
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If a man asks me out, it's his responsibility to take care of the evening.
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I'm a hardworking woman building a business from the ground up, and I deserve a partner
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When I'm comfortable in a relationship, I'm more than happy to contribute, but mutual respect
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I'm glad you're reading out my well-written answers.
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I will for real work this mid-body for you like a FN meth addict who just got out of jail.
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Also, Brixen, I can smell your gut-fold cheese from here.
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So, do you think men should pay for the first date?
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I just, I knew that that's what was going to be said.
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GMDgym donated $20, fiercely independent from the truth and reality.
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I also can't stand the idea of men being lazy or sleeping, and every successful person I
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Health and wealth are the foundations of a good life, and everything else follows when
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I need someone who has a strong sense of faith, whatever that may be.
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You need to know yourself, believe in something bigger, and stand by your principles if you
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Uwu, if the biddies aren't fake, what are the under blank scars from?
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Normally, I don't go there with OF girls, but I feel like it's warranted since you're
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Can somebody verify if she's been messaging people on her OnlyFans while she's been on
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Normally, I give, I'd be, I'm charitable and give the OF girls a pass on those, but you've
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just been fucking lying the whole show, so it's just kind of annoying.
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Jake, if the plastic strumpet can get a Rolex, you can get something better than that lady
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She chooses names of famous people so that when you Google her names, it won't be what
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I bet she wouldn't even tell the man she's dating her real name.
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Liar Blonde is just a life support system for a vagine.
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We're going to do a Twitch raid, then we're going to wrap the show.
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Fancy, fancy baby shower, but no wedding and no man shown baby off.
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I feel like that was like song lyrics or something.
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Pull up the radon map while I'm trying to find this guy.
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Don't you enjoy contributing to the degradation of society?
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Wouldn't want to damage all that work done on you.
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That's such a compliment that everybody thinks I have all this work done.
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And even guys subscribe, you know, if they know you have that.
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We're going to do a raid for her in just a moment here.
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Actually, don't pull her up quite yet because I've got to do the call to action.
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You could be in anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Can you pull up the Twitch, like our Twitch shout out?
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Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
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We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
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Guys, before we wrap up here, if you're watching on Twitch, drop us a follow in the Prime sub if you have one.
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She is being held in Brixen's studio against her will.
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We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
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We're going to be posting some stuff in the behind the scenes, I guess.
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And we posted the BTS of the kickout from Tuesday's show from last week, which was fucking wild.
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We're going to raid Woe Grandma if you want to pull that up on Twitch.
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See what she has to say about World of Warcraft.
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I know you guys want to pull up the raid on that, but next time.