Picky Travel Nurse DEMANDS 6ft3 Man Who Makes $100,000+ Per Year？! Jake! E-GIRLS! ｜ Dating Talk #197
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Summary
This week on Whatever Dating Talk, we talk about the recent motorcycle accident that took out one of our favorite hosts, Mason Gregoire, who has been on the show for a good portion of his life. We also talk about a woman who got caught up in the middle of a viral video of a Christian woman with a fake vagina, and how she got away with it.
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Those are in the description. We have a private Patreon members only Discord. As I just mentioned,
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discord.gg slash whatever. Guys, if you caught the last stream, there was a fake, conservative,
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God-fearing, OnlyFans Christian woman who just was lying about pathological liar. She claimed
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that she didn't do certain kinds of content. We found numerous amounts of evidence of it,
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which I believe some people in the community, they were finding it. They were posting it
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in Discord, DMing it to me. So, it's in the Discord. The biggest thing was, is she claimed
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that she hadn't done a certain kind of content. Someone sent me a video. Obviously, we can't
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show it, but there's the screenshot that we have here in the behind the scenes at discord.gg
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slash whatever. She denied that it was her in the video, but she had matching tattoo,
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this little leaf on her arm thing. So, if you want to see that, discord.gg slash whatever.
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And then, also, guys, kind of a little more serious thing. Mason Gregoire, who's been on the show
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like eight or nine times, was in a very, very serious motorcycle accident a couple days ago.
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He's still been in the hospital. Austin, can you pull it up just for reference here? So, if you guys
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don't know, this is Mason. He's been on the show, Virgin Giga Chat. He's been on the show eight or nine,
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So, this was posted to his Instagram yesterday. So, Mason was involved in a life-threatening
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motorcycle accident on September 11th, 5.45 a.m. It's been nearly a week since he was hospitalized
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and placed under heavy sedation, fighting every day to stay with us. His survival so far has been
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nothing short of miraculous. His family is asking for your continued prayers and thoughts as Mason
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faces this critical journey of healing. Like I said, he's been on the show a bunch. If you want,
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and hit the next button on the post. No, no, no, no. Okay, go back. Yeah, that one. So, next one.
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Next one. Yeah, he's not in great shape. Next one. And yeah, photo's taken just a few days apart.
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So, next tab, by the way. Okay, next. Sorry, guys. We're just... So, there's this. If you guys want
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to support, I've already committed 1,500. Andrew Wilson also sent in a very generous donation here
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if you guys want to support there. What's the next tab? And is there another one that's related?
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is going to go to Mason. Super chats, TTS, Twitch subs, towards medical expenses. So, just wanted
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to announce that and obviously hoping he has a quick recovery and wishing him and his family
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the best. I was speaking to him just the other day. We were going to have him back on the show,
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but... And he was just prepping to enter the Air Force, the military. So, pretty bummer. But hopefully,
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And... Well, without further ado... Actually, we'll quickly disclaimer. The views expressed by the
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ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So, please tell us your name, age,
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location, and occupation. Go ahead. Oh, hold on just one sec.
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Whatever fan donated $200... Hey, thank you, man.
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...haven't been around in a while. Here is my contribution. Hope Mason gets better. W Mason.
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Hey, whatever fan. Really appreciate it, man. So, 50% of that is going to go towards Mason and
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anything else that's sent throughout the rest of the night. Appreciate it, man. Thank you.
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Go ahead. Name, age, occupation, location. Where are you from?
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Hi, my name is Gabby. I'm 27 years old, and I'm a travel nurse from Kansas City, Missouri.
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Travel nurse. You grew up in Kansas City? Yeah, I grew up there, but I live in Los Angeles
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right now. Wait, Kansas City, Missouri? Missouri, like the Chiefs football. Wait, Kansas City
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is not in Kansas? No, there's two different ones, actually. How did I not know? How did
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I not know this? There's two Kansas... Two Kansas City. So, Kansas City is, like, on the
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middle of the border. So, there's a Kansas City, Kansas, and a Kansas City, Missouri. I guess
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there's, like, a Miami in Ohio, isn't there? Oh, really? Isn't there a Miami in Ohio? Anyways,
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okay. How long you been? You're an RN? Yes. Okay. And I kind of want... Travel nurse, so
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what's your current assignment? Is that the term that's used? Yeah, so we do contracts for about
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nine weeks to 13 weeks, but I've been extending my contracts. I've been in LA for almost a year
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now. Okay. And how many different cities have you been in? I've lived in Kansas City, Miami,
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Fort Lauderdale, Scottsdale, and now Los Angeles. So, five. So, like, five different places? Yeah. Okay,
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got it. Are you planning to go somewhere else soon? Because, I mean, you travel nurse, so you
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got to go... Isn't, like, don't you guys move every six months or something? Some people like to move
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every three months, but I feel like that's way too quick to, like, build friendships and, like,
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have a good home life. So, I like to stay for about a year, nine months to a year. Got it. Okay. Do
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you know where you're off to next? No plans yet. No plans yet. Okay. Where's the favorite place that
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you've been so far? Well, it depends on what you're looking for. Partying, definitely Miami. If you like
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to hike outdoors, Scottsdale. And then I think Los Angeles has a good mixture of both, where you can
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have fun, go to the beach, and you can go hiking if you want to. Got it. What about you? Hi, I'm
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Feef, 31 years old. I'm from Amsterdam, Netherlands, Europe. And since September, I'm a full-time Twitch
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partner streamer. What do you stream? Mostly World of Warcraft right now with The War Within, Diablo 4,
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City Builders, Indie Games, Narrative, Variety. Wait, you're a retail player? Yeah.
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That's a fucking 50 DKP Minus. What the fuck was that shit? Retail. Unbelievable. What does
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that mean, retail? Retail, World of Warcraft. So, there's Classic, and then there's Retail.
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So, Retail's the more recent iteration of the game. And then Classic, the game came out
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like 20 years ago. So, Classic's kind of like the OG original version. Never played. I feel
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like I'm missing out. You are missing out, but it's also a highly pretty addictive game.
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Very time-consuming. I don't play anymore, but I used to. Yeah. Okay, very cool. So, you'd
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stream World of Warcraft, Variety, streaming too, like different games, you said? Yeah.
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Okay. How long have you been streaming? Six and a half years now. And do you do any kind
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of other content, like OF or anything like that? No. No OF. Okay. And then school? Any
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school back in the Netherlands? Well, yeah. I did cultural social work, and after that,
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I did a master's degree in anthropology. Anthropology. So, I actually lived in San Francisco
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for three months during that researching tech startup culture. Oh, so you got your master's
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in SF? No, I got it from an American university? From a Dutch university, but I did my research
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in SF. Okay. Which university? Or maybe? None. No, it was not. I went just there with
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nobody that I knew. Okay. And just to figure out everything. Went to all the pitch events,
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to startup grinds. Got it. Just met all people and lived in a startup house for three months.
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Okay. Very cool. What about you? Yeah. My name is Glaske. Would you say Glaske?
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Glaske is easier to pronounce. I'm 31 years old. I'm also from the Netherlands, but I'm from
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the south. So, a little bit further away from Amsterdam, unfortunately. And I'm trying to
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think. Occupation? I'm a content creator. All around, everywhere. What kind of content
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do you do? Mainly on Twitch. I have OF, Fansly, you know, TikTok, Twitter, all that jazz.
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OnlyFans? Yeah. Okay. And university at all? Any school? Yeah. So, I'm a graphic designer.
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Okay. Well, I don't do it anymore because I thought it was kind of boring, but that's what
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I studied for. I used to specialize in packaging design. Got it. Wait, and you said you're from
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the south of the Netherlands. Yeah. So, there's the Netherlands and then Holland. Isn't that the
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north? Holland is the north? That's like Amsterdam area, and that's Holland.
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Holland is the north. West. West. It's the west. West. Okay. I'm sorry, west. Okay. Is there a name
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for the southern region of? Well, it's called Lindbergh. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. What about
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you? Selina. I'm 19, occupation, corn store. All right. Where are you from? Right now, I'm in
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Burbank. Where did you grow up, though? Oh, Colorado. Colorado. Jersey. Breckenridge?
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No, like Denver. Denver. Okay. What about you? I'm 19. I go to... Name? Ruby. My name is Ruby.
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I'm 19. I'm currently sort of unemployed. I grew up in Bakersfield, but I'm currently living
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here in Santa Barbara, and I go to UC Santa Barbara. I'm majoring in the history of public
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policy and law. All right. Do you want to be a lawyer? Criminal defense, yes. Criminal defense.
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Okay. All right. Welcome. I'm Madison. I'm 19 years old. I'm currently a student at Santa
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Barbara City College, and I'm here at the Whatever Podcast. All right. I'm Jake. I'm 28 years old.
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YouTube channel is Rattlesnake TV. Podcast is reality-based. Today, we've got the link
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tree in the bio, so you guys can find all of the links down there. And looking forward
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Sorry. I'm Yael. I'm 20, and I'm a UCSB student studying communications and film design.
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All right. I am Brian Atlas, 35, Santa Barbara, California. Washed up, over the hill, has-been
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YouTuber. And yeah, let's just get right. Relationship status, of course. So, guys, what is your current
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relationship status? Single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship,
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married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be. If you're single, how long have you
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been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? Go ahead.
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I've been single for about four years. And my longest-
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And my longest relationship was a year and a half in high school.
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Longest relationship a year and a half in like junior, sophomore, senior?
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All right. So, have you had a boyfriend since high school?
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Yeah. I've had a few boyfriends, but just nothing long-term.
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What's the longest outside of high school, longest relationship?
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I feel like it's shorter every time because I'm pickier and have higher standards.
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We should get into that. Picky. Let's talk about being picky, having standards. That's
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always a good thing that, you know, having standards.
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Let's see. And then you said you've been single for four years.
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So, the one-year boyfriend, was that the one that ended four years ago?
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Okay. Got it. But you said you were single four years ago. How long was the relationship
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Wait. The first relationship or the most recent?
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So, you said you've been single for four years. So, I'm assuming four years ago something ended.
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My most recent relationship was six months, but it was during COVID. So, does that really
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I feel like relationships are so different during COVID.
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Well, it was during lockdown. So, you don't really have any options.
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Okay. Got it. And so, are there any guys in the picture currently?
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Roster's open. So, are there people on the roster?
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Nothing in particular. Just no one that I'm interested in right now.
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What happened with the bench warmers? The bench warmers weren't performing?
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But if you've got a roster, doesn't that... Toxic is implicit, isn't it?
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No. It's because they're just, like, trying out to make the team.
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No. It was a good date, but there's just some traveling happening and distance.
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Yeah. I've been in a relationship for four years now. Before that, I was single for about
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eight years, and this is also my longest relationship.
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Wait. So, you've been... Okay. You've been in a relationship for four years. Before that,
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No. It's a very town-sea festival. It's all about sailing, and there's a lot of...
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cover bands playing in the city, and then we met, and he invited me to go to this island
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with his friends, and I said yes. So, in the middle of the night, we went to an island
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at a campfire. It was super fun. Then I was... Yeah. I don't know. His friend called dips
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Dibs? Yeah. They have this bro coat, so his friend had called dips, and I liked the current
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boyfriend, the current guy. So, I had to go with the dips guy into a tent. I didn't like
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him, so I just left. And then I found this little boat, and I asked for a ride, so I just disappeared.
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And then, two years later, I found him again. Wait, leave that. Austin, leave that. Is
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Hold on. Where's... This guy's been gone for, like, what, a year?
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Is this... Is this like a... It's not... Didn't he usually have a photo of his face?
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I need you to send me a DM right now. You guys send me a DM right now on Instagram and
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tell me if this is you, because we have DM history. So, wow. It's been a while since
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I've seen you, man. Welcome back to... Welcome back to the chat, man. We missed you, dude.
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Every episode, we do a little vigil, and we're like, when's he going to come back? So, good
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to see you in the chat, man. I think you kind of finished the story, though. What about
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you? I am single currently. My longest relationship was six years. I've been single for three years
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now, and not really seeing anyone seriously. Not looking either, so...
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When's the last time you were on the date? Maybe a few weeks ago.
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First date. No guys in the picture? Maybe. Maybe a little bit.
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No one. Oh, so there's kind of one guy in the picture. Yeah, maybe, yeah.
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Is it the guy that you went on a date with a few weeks ago? Yeah.
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Okay. Uh, when's the last? But I wouldn't call it
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a date. We just hang out and see where things go.
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you're hanging out with somebody who you have a
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It's not, it's not like having boyfriends. It's like
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go on a date with another person, but it's not like you're
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And by the way, that thing in the corner here, it,
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Yeah, he didn't like the way I, um, okay, maybe that wasn't, like, a, really an issue.
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It was more, like, the way I would, um, record, like, TikToks and stuff and upload them.
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I don't know what's, my wires are all, like, crossed up.
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It is way easier for me to, and it takes longer to say it, so.
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Like, Scooby S-C-0, I mean, O-O-B-Y, period, R-O-O-0-3.
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Anyway, Sue, in any case, you were posting kind of like, what, dance TikToks or something?
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It was just me lip-syncing, but, um, I think, well, he mentioned, like, me wanting, me using
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So, he just basically, essentially just had an issue with, uh, the, here, Mason, I'll send
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Why do I keep, I think it's because it's on, on the screen.
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Uh, we'll get that pulled up here, and just, speaking of which, guys, uh, 50% of all fan
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funding from today's episode, Super Chats, TTS, Twitch Subs, Streamlabs Messages, et cetera,
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We have reed at 100, TTS is 200, streamlabs.com, slash whatever.
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Is there one in specific where it was like, what the fuck is this?
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I have a lot, but they're, it's going to go back into high school.
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So, uh, I don't know if I want to see those, but, uh, scroll back up, scroll up.
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He had an issue with the going out, maybe how you dressed and then also posting to TikTok.
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Like one year in, two years in towards the end?
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Um, I think, I think everything started literally the first year.
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Like after the whole honeymoon stage, like six months into it, like everything changed.
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Um, so he would come to you and what was his ask?
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Did he say, Hey, can you make your TikTok private?
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He would just like, he'd send me my own TikToks or because he made a rule where it was like,
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anytime I uploaded to, um, my Instagram or TikTok or anything like that, I had to like tell him.
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Um, so when I would post, I'd be like, Oh, I'm going to post a TikTok and he'd go on it and then send it to me and then be like, okay, like, why, why do you choose this audio?
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Like, are you basically, are you asking for attention?
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And did he ever ask you to take down any specific videos?
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So you were, I mean, we, there, there could certainly be a conversation of, over whether it's appropriate for him to be asking this if it was controlling.
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But, um, in any case you did not, he would ask you to stop and you didn't stop.
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So this caused conflict in your relationship or not, or he just took it like a bitch.
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Um, I'd say cause like a little bit of conflict, like, um, it's cause I shut it down.
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Like after, after a while, I just, he noticed that I just did not care.
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I was just going to keep doing what I wanted to do.
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There's a Paris in Texas, not to be confused with Paris Hilton.
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There's Melbourne, Florida, and me born Australia too.
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Yeah, there's, uh, there's also a Hollywood in Miami as well?
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That's, that's what I was thinking about, the Hollywood in Miami.
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Uh, and then how often were you going out partying?
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And this was in high school, were you going to college parties?
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I was just, they were like, they were like kickbacks and stuff like that.
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So it's not high school parties, but like not college parties either.
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And then, um, uh, do you think he was, uh, controlling?
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Going around the table on this, uh, do you think, so, okay, essentially the boyfriend didn't
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like her going out, didn't like how she dressed when she was going out, uh, or even in general
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Like, didn't like how you dressed, maybe going to school or stuff like that, or?
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So didn't like her going out, didn't like how she dressed when she was going out, and
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then also didn't like some of the TikToks she posts.
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Is this, uh, is this him just having boundaries or is this controlling and insecure starting
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Um, I think he's definitely insecure and maybe jealous that you get more attention than
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Insecure that he's, she's getting more attention than him.
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Um, yeah, I, I think it sounds like a really bad relationship where you cannot be yourself.
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So I think it's, it's not good on his sides or for both of you, I guess.
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Yeah, girl, thank God you got out because that could have gone far South.
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Like, I don't think it's, it's normal to tell people what to do.
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And if you don't like what to do and I just don't be with them, you know, erroneous, erroneous.
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So now, sorry guys, uh, just minimize OBS really quick so I can see what's going on.
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The fucking ad block update fucking piece of shit.
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And then, Oh, you can X out the lives, the, the YouTube thing.
00:37:18.300
So they were dating for three years and it didn't go far worse.
00:37:31.420
Like you say, as soon as the honeymoon stage is over, they try to grab.
00:37:45.720
Anyways, once that is over, I think these types of people, they will try to grab control.
00:37:53.500
What's, what's wrong with not wanting your girlfriend to, to, to, to provocative people?
00:38:00.960
People who don't agree on what you are doing and want to control instead of stepping away.
00:38:06.580
Would you prefer a man who has no boundaries or some boundaries?
00:38:11.060
This is not, nothing to do with boundaries, I think.
00:38:14.460
But the question was, would you prefer a man who has no boundaries or some boundaries?
00:38:35.160
So then you have to talk about, okay, I do this.
00:38:41.160
Well, so you're painting this guy as somebody, I don't know the guy, but you're painting
00:38:44.180
him as somebody who could potentially be some sort of danger to her when he's simply
00:38:48.460
asking her not to do TikToks, which are unnecessary.
00:38:55.420
Why wouldn't you just try and find middle ground?
00:39:01.180
But you're saying that she was good to get out of the relationship and that he could have
00:39:07.120
I think the good advice would be maybe to have the conversation with the guy and think,
00:39:11.220
maybe put yourself in his shoes and think, why doesn't he like me doing this on TikTok?
00:39:14.600
Sorry, but you should not be with someone who calls you a bitch.
00:39:21.260
So don't you think that it would be better to have the conversation and put yourself in
00:39:26.540
Yeah, but you shouldn't have a conversation with someone who calls you a bitch.
00:39:29.280
But we're talking about TikTok specifically now.
00:39:38.020
The TikTok stuff to me seems so unimportant that if you tell your girlfriend, hey, listen,
00:39:44.720
I can kind of see your titties on the TikTok and you're mumbling all of these sexual songs.
00:40:08.300
You are just insecure and your girlfriend wants to dress like a whore for attention.
00:40:26.320
I mean, I just think that it's like the most basic of boundaries for me would be don't
00:40:31.320
put your body on the internet and don't be mumbling all these sexual songs.
00:40:35.760
If you're with me, then you shouldn't need that attention.
00:40:40.260
I wouldn't date someone who's posting weird TikTok videos anyway, but...
00:40:46.360
Hypothetically, we're speaking that hypothetically.
00:40:47.940
If we were and she started posting all these TikTok videos, it would be a conversation
00:40:53.140
And don't you think that's a reasonable request?
00:40:59.880
But as soon as they start getting disrespectful and not accepting the way you do things, like
00:41:05.240
she clearly wants to be on TikTok and all good for you.
00:41:08.200
But don't be with a guy that just doesn't accept that because that's just not going to
00:41:15.820
I mean, why is it important to be on TikTok, though, over a relationship?
00:41:20.180
If you like the guy, if you value your relationship, why would it be important to be on TikTok?
00:41:42.220
Well, I don't think I can change your mind with whatever I'm saying, but I just think
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that it's good you got away because it could have gone worse.
00:41:51.920
What would indicate to you that that would go worse?
00:41:55.200
Well, the jealousy and clearly being disrespectful as well.
00:42:00.020
I mean, if you're dating and somebody is just not taking into account your boundaries
00:42:15.600
Don't you think you'd be pissed off if they were doing something, say, flirting with girls
00:42:18.660
all the time when you went out in public and you said, hey, I really don't like that.
00:42:26.760
I would just not agree with it and then talk about it.
00:42:29.180
And if it doesn't work, then you have different priorities in life, I guess.
00:42:40.340
Why the jump, though, to it could have gone way worse because he doesn't want his girlfriend
00:42:48.240
to post provocative photos or dress provocatively or go to parties?
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Doesn't that seem like a pretty reasonable boundary for a relationship-minded man?
00:43:05.600
And sorry, I know this is about you, but that's what I've seen.
00:43:13.260
But when he's trying to control her and telling her you shouldn't post this, I don't like it
00:43:19.100
when you wear this, and then calling her a bitch, that just to me screams, like, get
00:43:28.020
Should you just be able to do whatever you want all the time with no consequences?
00:43:32.400
What about if you're flirting with the people all the time?
00:43:37.280
If you're flirting with people, if you guys go out and you're at the bar flirting with
00:43:41.060
other guys, is that a boundary that he can set?
00:43:44.820
Yeah, it depends if you have an open relationship.
00:43:48.300
What about if you go out to the bar and you're dressed really skimpily and guys are looking
00:43:53.320
Do you think that that's something that he can say, hey, listen, I don't like when you
00:44:04.080
You've got like hundreds of thousands of guys oogling over our breasts.
00:44:10.380
If you want to post these types of TikToks because you want to dance and have fun and
00:44:15.660
your boyfriend doesn't agree with that, well then...
00:44:18.540
So he should just accept that you can do whatever you want all the time with no consequences?
00:44:25.940
That we should all be able to do whatever we want all the time with no consequences?
00:44:28.320
You have to like have good communication and set boundaries and sort of...
00:44:33.760
Who do you think was communicating better out of those two?
00:44:42.720
Did it look like one person had boundaries and one person wasn't respecting the boundaries?
00:44:49.860
Yeah, I'm just saying on my opinion on what I just heard, but I can't like go deep into
00:44:54.600
it because I have no idea what the situation really was, what kind of person, how much
00:45:10.740
Do you think it's an unreasonable standard for a guy to not want his girlfriend to post
00:45:17.320
revealing photos or to go out to parties, bars, clubs, or to wear, I suppose, revealing
00:45:28.040
Do you think that's controlling behavior or is that a reasonable boundary?
00:45:32.900
It's a boundary, definitely, unless you're with someone who likes to do these things and
00:45:40.280
you try to change it because that's just not going to work.
00:45:43.960
Well, I mean, don't we all kind of, isn't that the nature of relationships?
00:45:48.480
Like, okay, you're single, you're operating one way, now you're in a relationship, you're
00:45:53.600
no longer operating in the way you used to operate.
00:45:56.540
So conduct that would be acceptable when you're single is no longer acceptable when you're in
00:46:03.000
Case in point, for example, sleeping with multiple people at the same time.
00:46:07.400
This is, well, it's not cheating if you're single to sleep with multiple people at the
00:46:14.800
But in a relationship, this would be considered cheating.
00:46:17.860
And so, well, what other kind of behavior could be considered undesirable or cheating
00:46:22.740
in a relationship that might not be when you're single?
00:46:34.620
So, for example, like when it comes to posting more revealing photos, prior to dating, a man
00:46:40.260
might not have a problem with her engaging in what he considered single behavior.
00:46:45.980
But once they started dating, he wanted her to act in a way that he thought was consistent
00:46:53.400
And I mean, literally all boundaries are a form of control.
00:46:58.580
That's what a boundary is, drawing lines around behaviors that you don't want your partner
00:47:08.680
Or I think I asked a question that I wanted to open up to the panel, but controlling or reasonable
00:47:18.000
Yeah, so not wanting to post revealing photos, not dressing, revealing, and I guess, what
00:47:29.740
I feel like it's definitely reasonable to have boundaries.
00:47:34.380
But are those specific boundaries, are they reasonable from the guy's perspective?
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Or do you feel like generally they're controlling?
00:47:39.800
Well, I feel like in a relationship, you should have the freedom to do whatever you want within
00:47:47.100
What do you mean doing whatever you want within having boundaries?
00:47:53.900
But how can you do whatever you want if you have boundaries?
00:48:00.800
But you shouldn't date someone that you want to change.
00:48:04.380
And she's probably posting the same videos before they were dating.
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So if you see that, you probably shouldn't date someone like that.
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You say women shouldn't date people or you shouldn't date people you want to change?
00:48:13.660
Isn't that like the genesis of what women do to every single man that they date?
00:48:23.940
But that's not what women do with every guy they date.
00:48:39.760
I do have to say, I wonder how, did you do the TikToks before you started dating and all of that?
00:48:45.560
Or was it something you started doing when you were dating?
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Because I think that might be, yeah, it's controlling if you were already doing that.
00:48:59.580
And then when you started dating after a year, it became a problem, even though you've been doing that all along.
00:49:07.760
So you would have started when you were dating, right?
00:49:17.460
Were you dating other guys before you started dating him?
00:49:21.220
Were you talking to other guys ever before you started dating him?
00:49:26.520
Did you stop doing that when you started dating him?
00:49:29.940
Did you stop doing that when you started dating him?
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So why does it matter if they're doing it before?
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Isn't it the most important that the boundaries match in a relationship?
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Like, for example, I'm in a relationship for four years.
00:49:51.660
I'm no longer kissing other guys or sleeping with them, only with my boyfriend.
00:49:59.620
But if my boyfriend would say, I don't want you to be a Twitch streamer anymore, then that's
00:50:15.520
I mean, it depends what you call boobs out, I guess.
00:50:25.100
Do you have a lot of men in the chat sort of...
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But most of them also know my boyfriend because we have meetups and stuff like that.
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I mean, I don't really know anything about Twitch gaming.
00:50:38.020
But sure, if it's your work and everything, then as long as it's not like a thirst trap.
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But this is like a thirst trap, what we're talking about here.
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And that should be off limits when you're in a relationship.
00:50:47.740
It depends because it's about the boundaries matching.
00:50:50.840
I mean, there's also girls with OnlyFans that have boyfriends that are completely fine with that.
00:50:54.700
So when you say the boundaries match, does that mean that my boundaries have to be commensurate with what she thinks she can do?
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But like, what if I have a boundary that she doesn't think is reasonable?
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Then I'm not sure if it's a great fit for the relationship.
00:51:12.420
And of course, sometimes you have to compensate.
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I think that we can all agree that if you're dating a girl who won't stop doing the TikToks, then you should break up.
00:51:21.800
Your boyfriend should have broken up with you the first conversation of you the next day when I posted another TikTok.
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But we're arguing about the merit of the boundary and whether it's a reasonable boundary.
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And sometimes it is completely fine to compensate and, for example, say, well, okay, I really like doing these TikToks.
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What do you think your boyfriend would say if you, Tamara, started posting TikToks of you with showing some titty and...
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But what do you think he would honestly think if you started doing that?
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And do you think that it doesn't really match your character to be doing that sort of content?
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So do you think that would be a reasonable boundary if he said, hey, listen, I don't want you doing those videos?
00:52:18.240
I'm saying that, but put yourself in the hypothetical for a second.
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Do you think that that would be a reasonable boundary?
00:52:27.740
So I guess maybe if I would have one that has more boobs out and he would say, hey, I don't feel comfortable with that, I might not wear that cosplay anymore.
00:52:38.780
But if I really love the cosplay, then maybe I will keep wearing it.
00:52:42.960
I think that I can't think of a point of doing TikToks or anything like that, cosplay, whatever, and sexualizing yourself that isn't for male attention.
00:52:54.180
For whatever the reason, maybe for your Twitch streaming, I mean, how much of your audience is male?
00:53:01.100
Probably more than that, I'd say, because it's gaming.
00:53:03.400
Oh, no, there's a lot of girls in gaming as well.
00:53:09.680
Yeah, no, I have a lot of girls in communities and mothers, and it's very, yeah, community-based.
00:53:18.580
Well, I haven't seen your twitching, but yeah, I'm sure it's very wholesome with the cosplay.
00:53:30.680
I mean, if it was to the point where she felt she had to break up, like, it was obviously on his end, like, there should be some compromise, just because, especially if she was already making the videos before they were dating, why all of a sudden would it be an issue for him?
00:53:49.120
And, like, why would he date her if it was such a big problem for him?
00:53:53.500
You do things differently when you're in a relationship as to how you act when you're single.
00:53:58.220
Right, but in that context, he didn't break up with her over it.
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If it's that big of a deal, then just don't date that person for him.
00:54:12.340
If it was an issue for him, yeah, you know, I mean.
00:54:14.760
So, let's finish up the relationship stats really quick, but going back to you really quick, you said you're very much single.
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I think they were saying balking on the show last time, despite the rampant rumors on here.
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All right, that's everybody's relationship status.
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Ladies, if you get to keep your Instagram or TikTok, then your guy gets to keep his dating
00:56:34.020
If you're trying to date, you already have the best thing there is, so...
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But you already have the best thing, so why do you need attention on social media?
00:56:44.460
No, but I'm saying in the hypothetical world that we're in right now.
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If you're already dating somebody, why would you need to be getting this attention on social
00:56:57.820
How about we both just give each other attention?
00:57:05.540
You know what I think would actually be kind of a sort of fair trade-off, but still not
00:57:12.220
So the men, they get to keep their dating apps.
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They can't respond, but they can keep their profile active on the dating app.
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I think that that's actually a really kind of close to a one-to-one comparison of women
00:57:33.520
I was going to say, a lot of people just post pictures of the ocean, or not everybody's just
00:57:52.500
Well, in any case, I think the difference is, though, and I think what the super chatter
00:58:00.280
is trying to get at is that, so men and women, we flirt very differently.
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So, for example, a guy will approach you at a bar or club.
00:58:14.260
If you guys go to a bar or a club, you're not going to go at, like, approach 10 dudes.
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Perhaps you'll put yourself in a kind of a position to be approached.
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You'll go there, dressed really nice, looking sexy, whatever, and maybe you'll make eye contact
00:58:32.740
That's the extent of it, in the hopes of eliciting them to come talk to you.
00:58:38.420
So, when you go out to the bars, your intention is not, I'm going to go approach men.
00:58:43.200
Your intention is, whether conscious or unconscious, I'm going to make myself available for men to
00:58:51.380
And similarly, when it comes to Instagram, you're not going to, like, you might occasionally
00:58:55.240
slide into a DM here or there, like an A-list celebrity.
00:58:58.400
You'll shoot your shot with, like, the top-tier dudes, whereas guys will shoot their shot
00:59:06.320
Oh, I hope a guy or some guys or this particular guy notices me, reacts to this.
00:59:13.580
This elicits him to then contact me, or men in general to contact you.
00:59:18.400
So, going back to how men and women flirt very differently, when men enter into a relationship
00:59:23.780
with any of you guys, there's an expectation on his part, okay, the way that you flirt as
00:59:29.160
a man, you need to stop that once we're in a relationship.
00:59:31.700
So, the way men flirt, we take initiative, we approach you, we'll slide into the DMs,
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There's an expectation that that stops and ceases when we're in a relationship.
00:59:42.040
But the ways in which that you conduct yourself when you're single doesn't cease once you're
00:59:54.480
And you continue making yourself available on social media platforms.
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You continue posting photos, oftentimes revealing photos, on social media.
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But you guys, even in a relationship, even in the marriage, you don't have to stop the
01:00:22.980
ways that you make yourselves available to men.
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And so, the soup chat that came in, the Streamlabs donation, I agree with equality.
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If we got to stop approaching women, you guys have to stop making yourselves available in
01:00:47.180
Maybe you stop posting kind of more revealing photos.
01:01:02.700
But then again, I'm kind of more of a homebody.
01:01:05.600
So, I wouldn't even want to date a girl who's inclined to do that even when she's single.
01:01:13.880
Because that's just, that would be such a mismatch of, is it a hobby to go to a bar?
01:01:25.060
Well, you want to find someone that you have the same free time schedule with.
01:01:29.360
Yeah, I just, since I don't go to these types of venues, I don't think I would.
01:01:32.460
If it's like hobby bar hopping, if it's like they've got like a friend's birthday and they're going out and seeing their friends, I wouldn't mind about that.
01:01:38.840
But if there's somebody who's like a rampant bar or club goer, then yeah, you wouldn't want to date somebody like that.
01:01:47.100
But yeah, so I just don't think I see myself dating a girl who even goes out to bars and clubs and parties really to begin with.
01:01:55.900
But like Jake said, if it's occasional thing, I don't think I would really mind.
01:01:59.060
But like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, every single day of the week, yeah, that's probably a problem.
01:02:08.420
But fair proposition, we have to stop flirting.
01:02:13.160
You guys got to stop going to environments where you can anticipate you're going to get this kind of male attention.
01:02:24.340
Because typically, I've been hit in a grocery store.
01:02:36.260
So that's a fair, I suppose that's a fair argument.
01:02:38.400
So I would not have a boundary like, oh, you're not allowed to go out in public ever.
01:02:46.200
But I do acknowledge that as a woman, you can be approached anywhere.
01:02:54.940
It could be you're just out and about, shopping, whatever.
01:02:58.660
I wouldn't attempt to put any controls on that because that's just you moving about your day through life.
01:03:08.220
The difference is, though, is the venues that you choose to go to.
01:03:11.080
So, for example, while I acknowledge that men might approach you in a grocery store, it's far less common that at a party club or nightclub, then add on to that, the involvement of alcohol.
01:03:23.080
Most people don't go to Trader Joe's to get turned up.
01:03:30.800
I don't think in the history of Trader Joe's a woman's ever been finger banged, like, ever.
01:03:36.520
But if you go to a nightclub or a bar, chicks begin, bro, people are hooking up, making out.
01:03:48.460
I, look, I went, I saw, I, Santa Barbara, number one, UCSB, number one party school in the U.S.
01:03:56.920
The amount when I, and I was never a big partier, never a really big drinker, but I went to parties here and there and stuff.
01:04:02.600
The amount of fuckery that I saw, like, people fucking within 30 minutes of meeting, like, some people meeting right by the beach.
01:04:14.960
Let's go fuck in the bathroom, laundry room, whatever.
01:04:19.120
I've seen people fucking in the middle of parties.
01:04:23.720
It was like a normal college party, and they're getting finger blasted.
01:04:31.060
Well, I've been to the Netherlands three times.
01:04:43.940
And I've been to one of those festivals as well.
01:04:55.300
When we used to go out together, and she wouldn't go home with a man, she would say,
01:04:59.800
oh, my evening sucked, and it really was disappointing.
01:05:03.320
And I would be like, oh, but we had a great evening because we're just, you know, having fun going out.
01:05:08.600
So, I think for those girls who really see partying as the way to be picked up and hook up with people and go to the beach in 30 minutes, yes, that's a thing.
01:05:22.100
But I still go out with my best friends every now and then.
01:05:25.380
But if guys approach me, I say, oh, I'm taken by.
01:05:33.700
So, I mean, look, going back to this whole Trader Joe's example.
01:05:38.480
So, nightclubs, bars, parties, these are very, very specific social gathering type environments where there's an expectation.
01:05:45.880
As the woman going in, like, there's a high likelihood that you're going to get approached.
01:05:49.780
And so, I just think when it comes to the respect of your partner, you just would opt to not go to these types of environments.
01:06:00.520
Do you like live music more than your boyfriend?
01:06:08.380
Yeah, I mean, look, if he has no issues with it, and you're certainly free to do it, I just think it's a perfectly reasonable standard and boundary for men to have, especially men who are relationship-minded.
01:06:20.940
Look, a guy who just wants to fuck you probably doesn't give a fuck.
01:06:23.440
So, a guy who's actually, who cares about you, who wants you to be safe, who doesn't want to see.
01:06:28.800
Because how many times do we see stories of, like, you know, some guy's going to grab your ass or, you know, you get, you know, something gets dropped in your drink.
01:06:37.420
Like, guys view the world through, like, a sort of a bit of a different lens sometimes.
01:06:43.360
And we're, like, looking at it from, like, a security safety perspective.
01:06:46.680
And we don't want our girlfriend to be put in a potentially vulnerable situation where, not her fault, but we can't control for what some drunk douchebag's going to do.
01:07:01.560
And we don't want to be in a position where your safety is at risk.
01:07:07.720
And if, like, as women, you want men to be protectors, like, this is within the purview of us trying to, like, look out for you and your safety.
01:07:17.740
But, I mean, I luckily haven't been in moments that I'm in a bar and people do things that I don't feel safe with.
01:07:25.240
Well, I don't know if Santa Barbara's different.
01:07:27.160
And it's weird because Santa Barbara is, like, a really nice area, high cost of living, relatively safe.
01:07:33.120
But, like, every single time when I, again, never was a big partier, but I'd occasionally, like, go out with a friend, too.
01:07:39.520
And I would maybe have one drink at a bar or a nightclub or whatever.
01:07:43.820
Certainly when I was younger, I haven't been out in years.
01:07:49.400
Every single time I went out, there was always violence, always saw a fight, always saw something going on.
01:07:54.880
Now, this is typically more so a concern as a man because, you know, some random guy is not going to start a fight with you.
01:08:03.320
But every, like, when it comes to safety concerns, security concerns, every single time I've been out, there's always tension.
01:08:15.020
Brain damage, injury, paramedics, firefighters, police, every single time I've been out.
01:08:20.520
I've never not gone out and not seen something go down.
01:08:26.120
But I go to rock and metal bars and it happens less, I guess.
01:08:35.120
They're all, like, mosh pitting and stuff like that?
01:08:52.040
There's a lot of just, like, sex drugs and rock and roll happening in those places.
01:08:57.900
Oh, the other thing is, well, you might say, okay, well, go with your girlfriend.
01:09:08.100
And I'll know, Jake, maybe you've had experiences like this.
01:09:10.260
Like, if you're with the wrong girl, like, and she's been drinking, she's going to get you into a fight.
01:09:23.380
And, like, the thing is, is if, like, some drunk guy is, like, hassling you, you're going to, like, look to your boyfriend to intervene on your behalf.
01:09:31.600
And then there's been so many instances of, it's not always the girl's fault, but, like, sometimes the girl will be intoxicated, like, mouth off to some dude.
01:09:51.620
And then your boyfriend's going to get knocked out.
01:09:53.180
And then you're going to dump him because you can't see your boyfriend in a vulnerable position.
01:10:03.940
So, guys, don't go out with your girlfriend to bars and clubs because it's just not good.
01:10:15.460
We were supposed to go out, but I'm kind of scared now, honestly.
01:10:18.700
It's a very different scene in America than it is in Europe, for sure.
01:10:24.780
I can't say I've been out in America too many times, but you can tell by the atmosphere and everything.
01:10:33.660
But places like Holland and Germany, they genuinely tend to really go out for music.
01:10:37.280
And they have a better relationship with alcohol.
01:10:45.100
In any case, in any case, look, I think going back to the original thing, though, I think,
01:10:53.780
look, I think if you guys don't want to give up bars, clubs, partying, you know, keeping your Instagram public, posting revealing stuff,
01:11:01.680
maybe it's fair for the guys to keep their Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, Christian, Mingle, Farmers Only, Grindr, even, and keep it on.
01:11:14.560
We will continue to accrue matches, and maybe some of the girls message us first.
01:11:19.360
And we just keep accruing it, but we won't message any of them.
01:11:36.360
But then what if the guy turns around and says, well, you post revealing photos on Instagram.
01:11:45.920
So your soulmate has to accept you going to raves and parties and bars and clubs and posting revealing photos on Instagram?
01:11:57.580
Or I would just, I mean, I like to stay at home if I don't go to festivals, so.
01:12:05.060
You said before that you have high standards, right?
01:12:06.740
So high standards would suggest that you're looking for a pretty capable guy, good looking, he's probably tall.
01:12:14.840
So it's this cyclical thing that girls enter into and they say, I need this, this, this, this, and this.
01:12:20.220
And I've got this laundry list of things that I need.
01:12:26.960
And then the guys that you will attract, if you do those things, you won't respect.
01:12:30.920
I'd be willing to compromise if they were the right person for me.
01:12:34.100
And you said that you wouldn't take the photos down and you wouldn't stop.
01:13:09.360
No, archive suggests that we're going to break up.
01:13:16.660
But I have to choose your top friends and your favorite song.
01:13:25.480
Gen Z looks at MySpace the same way that we look at a rotary phone.
01:13:36.480
Yeah, I remember the exact time when Facebook started to take over MySpace.
01:13:43.100
And I was like, but I can't have top friends in Facebook.
01:13:59.320
You know how like people use Instagram as a dating app?
01:14:04.320
I wonder if like some dude was fucking killing it on MySpace.
01:14:08.420
I had a friend who was in a few different girls' top friends like...
01:14:27.560
I used to do some simpy songs when I was younger.
01:14:30.840
I wish I could say I was killing it on MySpace, but I was like high school.
01:15:09.860
I let girls slide into the DMs back in the day.
01:15:35.220
Cold approaching, though, in a gentlemanly way.
01:15:45.560
Any more pushback from anybody on the whole controlling thing?
01:15:52.480
Question for you, because you mentioned controlling.
01:15:57.560
Your longest relationship was six years, you said?
01:16:04.400
Would you have an issue if he was paying for another girl's OnlyFans?
01:16:41.560
Like, did it start monogamous, then you opened it up, or was it always open?
01:16:50.360
Yeah, we talked about it, and I was like, ah, maybe that's a good idea to try.
01:17:12.440
Like, one and a half years, so I don't really count it.
01:17:15.780
So, while you were seeing him, how many other guys did you see?
01:17:40.340
No, we wouldn't really talk about it, but I did know two girls that he was with.
01:17:45.860
So, I do know of two, but I think it's more probably around five.
01:18:07.020
So, let's just say it would be, like, five and 10.
01:18:11.460
But, so, going back to the question, would you be okay with your boyfriend subscribing to
01:18:27.540
You're like, well, when it comes to going to bars, clubs, parties, whatever, posting.
01:18:30.780
Oh, yeah, but I wouldn't date someone that is subscribed to someone else.
01:18:43.540
I'm just not going to date someone that is subscribed to someone else's channel.
01:18:50.900
Okay, so let's say you are dating a guy, and he wasn't doing that, but then you found
01:18:54.880
out he was doing that a year into the relationship.
01:18:59.880
Or do you say, stop that, or I'm going to break up with you?
01:19:18.320
Look, it's, it's the guy that you're going to end up with.
01:19:25.640
When I say it's the guy you're going to end up with, a lot of girls are not going to get
01:19:32.900
You're going to have to settle on certain things.
01:19:37.140
Okay, well, if everything else is perfect about him, then I would make him.
01:19:43.500
So all the deficiencies that you have or that you bring to a relationship, by the way, I'm
01:19:49.300
not saying there are any, but he is, he is mirroring in some way the deficiencies in
01:20:02.720
Oh, so I'm not subscribed to OnlyFans, so he is.
01:20:11.720
Or, well, you said you're very picky and you have high standards, right?
01:20:18.240
Why don't you tell us about the kind of guy that you want?
01:20:31.840
Okay, so bare minimum height for a guy for you to take.
01:20:38.640
So that's already, like, a really small percent of the population.
01:20:41.820
Yeah, so 6'3", that's 1%, I believe, or is it 3%, 1%?
01:20:58.240
Yeah, I'm definitely taller than the average man.
01:21:00.880
Well, I think the average is 5'9", or 5'10", in the U.S. anyways, but in Holland, it's a bit more than other ones.
01:21:18.860
Can somebody, can you find the statistics, Austin?
01:21:30.040
No, because that just shows that they don't take care of themselves.
01:21:34.500
And then age, what's the age range that you'll date?
01:21:54.560
No, but my friends always tell me that my dating pool is like 1%.
01:22:13.460
Okay, so 3%, so 4% 6'2", 3% 6'3", 1% over 6'4".
01:22:38.740
If you look at one of the tabs up there, it's calculator.
01:22:41.440
All right, we're going to go through the calculator.
01:23:56.240
Yeah, it'd be like us lying about our bra size.
01:24:06.540
They always look very different in real life than they do in their photos.
01:24:22.880
And then I'll stand up next and be like, oh, no.
01:24:26.040
But if someone is super nice, then it doesn't matter that they're smaller than you, right?
01:24:50.360
What were we going around on initially, though?
01:24:53.000
Because, I mean, we can get into all this stuff.
01:25:02.140
Do you recall what we were going around on, Maddie?
01:25:14.320
Girls should delete their Instagram or boys can keep their dating profile.
01:25:24.880
Is it an issue if your boyfriend is subscribed to girls' OnlyFans?
01:25:29.760
Or, here's the other one, he goes to the strip club.
01:25:40.300
Would you have an issue if your boyfriend went to the strip club?
01:25:51.380
Okay, well, we can order DoorDash and get a super pool in our house, and he can throw
01:26:04.380
There's no way an A cup is demanding something or having unrealistic standards.
01:26:10.280
You're basically a man, and you should be shipped to Thailand immediately.
01:26:19.000
But first off, I will not, as someone who's part of the itty-bitty-titty committee, I
01:26:24.880
will not allow you to disrespect a sister, okay?
01:26:30.960
First off, I got to come to the defense of small boobs, okay?
01:26:39.260
I know I have an A cup, but at least I'm not lying about my height.
01:26:46.780
Bronaissance, I have not seen you in a while, man.
01:26:50.840
Yeah, I don't know why the guys, what's, I think small boobs are elegant and great, elegant?
01:27:03.680
Well, they don't look as slutty, so like we were talking about the Instagram pictures.
01:27:07.800
If I wear a bikini, it doesn't look slutty, but if someone with bigger breasts wear a
01:27:19.360
For a guy, when you see that, you think more of it in a very sexual way.
01:27:24.280
That's like a guy who has a six pack with his shirt off compared to a guy who has a dad
01:27:31.840
I like to think, this always gets me hate from everybody.
01:27:35.220
Like, you look at Greek statues, Roman statues of women.
01:27:38.480
They don't have giant fucking can crusher titties.
01:27:44.960
Generally, they're quite voluptuous as well in a lot of those.
01:27:50.000
But, they don't, I've never seen like this Roman statue, Greek statue of some giant can
01:27:58.440
That was like the beauty standard back in the day, though.
01:28:00.980
They had like a different idea of what was like pretty, you know?
01:28:05.020
But, maybe they were onto something, you know what I mean?
01:28:10.120
Also, the male statues, the penises weren't very big.
01:28:17.580
Going around the table, strip club, you're fine with the strip club, him going to the
01:28:28.440
But, that's where he likes to have his chicken wings.
01:28:33.400
Wait, is the guy, do you think this is a good argument when women say, oh, I just
01:28:39.700
It's like the guy, I just go to the strip club for the wings or something?
01:28:49.700
I think OnlyFans, I wouldn't like because that's very personal, right?
01:28:58.080
I'll let you finish your point, but I just want to introduce one quick nuance.
01:29:02.720
When a guy goes or is talking to a girl on OnlyFans, the chances of him fucking the girl
01:29:13.640
When a man goes to a strip club and he's spending money on the girls there, the chances of him
01:29:20.680
But if you go to a bar, the chances of you cheating is zero percent.
01:29:34.320
But I wouldn't like that he's perhaps getting like, I don't know, the whole personal thing.
01:29:39.500
I guess my boyfriend, if he wants, can watch porn or something.
01:29:46.420
And the strip club, I would find a bit of a waste of money.
01:29:49.220
But if he would do it once a year, then he really wants that.
01:30:03.880
I've only been once, but sometimes, I mean, there wasn't food at the one that I went to.
01:30:14.220
And then just to be polite, like he'll give like 10 bucks to like the one girl or something.
01:30:29.280
But he does look at the girls a little bit, but he's there for the food.
01:30:43.400
But you don't mind your boyfriend watching porn?
01:30:49.700
But if you're in the next room and he's watching porn, isn't that a bit gay?
01:30:59.000
If you're in the next room and he's in there playing with himself, isn't that a bit gay?
01:31:15.040
What if it becomes a habit and then he's doing it in the basement?
01:31:27.360
He could go upstairs and have sex with a woman.
01:31:29.440
But he's playing with himself in the next room.
01:31:43.280
But I think that if you have a girlfriend and you can have an active sex life with your girlfriend that you're off playing with yourself to be gay.
01:31:55.860
I mean, not homophobic, homosexual way or like a derogatory term way?
01:31:59.720
Well, it's kind of a little bit of somewhere in between.
01:32:03.880
Because you're playing with yourself when you could be playing with your girlfriend.
01:32:15.080
Well, I mean, if you allow it while you're away, what if it becomes a habit and he prefers it?
01:32:20.760
That would be very sad if he prefers playing with himself instead of playing with me.
01:32:34.520
If you're cool with him watching porn, then like what's the difference between him doing it when you're there and you're away?
01:32:42.960
I think if he rather watches porn and plays with himself instead of going with me, then maybe our relationship is really breaking down.
01:32:55.340
But if he's watching porn when you're not there, it's...
01:33:02.440
But you're okay with him watching porn in a relationship?
01:33:08.720
Unless he like stalks this porn girl, then it's always the same.
01:33:11.820
I've never dated a Dutch girl, but it seems like you guys have not many boundaries.
01:33:17.380
Well, I mean, like actively allowing your man to watch porn or being okay with it, I think that's strange.
01:33:23.700
And then also being in the open relationship over here, it just seems like there's a lack of boundaries.
01:33:29.800
I mean, there's a lot of things that are normal in our culture, in our country, that are really not done here.
01:33:37.440
But I guess it's kind of what you grow up with, and I'm fine with that.
01:33:49.000
I mean, they got like the red light district, it's prostitution's legal, you can be in the city center of Amsterdam.
01:33:59.240
You can like take one, go one block down from the city center and see everything.
01:34:12.020
But still, I believe I have a lot of boundaries.
01:34:21.440
And actually, I don't know if my boyfriend watches porn, but I don't, I just, it's a hypothetical.
01:34:28.540
I think if he really wants that when I'm away, why not?
01:34:37.420
Would you be cool if your boyfriend subbed to another girl on OF?
01:34:47.900
So, he would be subscribing and supporting the competition.
01:34:51.060
Wait, but wouldn't your boyfriend get it for free?
01:34:55.640
No, but she's saying that she wouldn't like it because he's supporting the competition.
01:35:00.640
So, like it's kind of just offensive to me because like that's the competition you're supporting
01:35:10.680
But like you would give your OF to your boyfriend for free, right?
01:35:26.620
But like I wouldn't like it because, I don't know, like I'm more into like monogamous stuff
01:35:34.700
So, it would just be kind of like, why are you going in your personal time to look at
01:35:52.900
Would you be cool with your boyfriend if he subscribed to another girl's OnlyFans?
01:36:33.580
It's beautiful, like, I could go with him, but like, you're not going by yourself.
01:36:42.280
Like she said, we can grab the wing, order some wings, we'll have a stripper pull in the
01:36:59.320
You two said this, so I'm just actually curious, though.
01:37:02.740
You're saying if you, wouldn't it, I feel like they would just be like, I feel objectified.
01:37:06.380
But you're telling me, if your boyfriend comes to you, and he's like, you're going to install
01:37:23.060
So you'd be fine installing a stripper pull at your place, and he can tell you to strip
01:37:48.520
But you have such a strong, like, when I asked you about the OnlyFans, the strip club, you
01:37:56.220
But, like, your boyfriend, you broke up with him because he wanted to try to enforce boundaries
01:38:01.280
Okay, but, like, my boyfriend at the time, I mean, come on, it was, like, a high school
01:38:08.980
But, like, I feel like it's a different, like, it's a different situation because back
01:38:15.360
then, I was, like, cheated on every year, but I went back.
01:38:25.400
Yeah, I was not going to, like, I was not going to.
01:38:40.660
Well, entertain people on social media multiple times during our first year.
01:38:55.740
I just, um, our second year I found out he, like, hung out and kissed.
01:39:03.920
But I don't know what else was done with his co-worker.
01:39:19.200
He's making a Big Mac, then he gave her the Big Mac, you know what I'm saying?
01:39:26.320
Maybe not sleeping with, but how many girls do you think he was, like, cheating?
01:39:36.320
I mean, like, the conversations he would have with, like, multiple women.
01:39:47.800
And you could tell it's deleted because they're having a conversation, mid-conversation.
01:39:52.080
It's, like, it switches, like, the tone, everything, like.
01:40:02.400
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
01:40:07.780
So, he was cheating on you, and you would break up with him?
01:40:13.940
But then you said you got back together a whole bunch of times.
01:40:24.180
No, he would reach out to me, and he would, like, tell me that he's been really going through it, that this time he matured, he's grown.
01:40:46.840
I mean, like, it was only a two-year difference.
01:40:51.160
When you're a seven-year-old, I'm pretty sure that's fine.
01:41:00.940
I have no idea, but it was a two-year difference.
01:41:03.480
In California, it might still get you in trouble.
01:41:06.700
I think it depends, like, a certain date after your 17th birthday.
01:41:11.020
Well, you guys, okay, so, anyways, he was cheating on you.
01:41:42.820
I still haven't gotten closure on this 0.11 situation.
01:41:49.380
So, you know, you have your own requests, but what do you bring to the table?
01:42:00.860
I'm willing to give my all to be in a relationship if they give that back to me.
01:42:22.560
And guys don't like when girls can travel, too?
01:42:29.240
I don't want her to have already been around the world.
01:42:35.220
Wait, you said, in response to Jake's question, you said, did you say you bring your career
01:42:46.860
I thought you said, like, I have a good job or something.
01:42:49.200
I mean, I have a job where, like, I give myself to other people all day, helping take
01:43:01.600
Yeah, like, there's a lot of crazy stuff that we do and see in a day.
01:43:06.680
Is that a good thing for a relationship or a bad thing?
01:43:09.240
No, it's a good thing because then you know that I'll take care of you when we get old
01:43:13.060
and about to die, I'll take care of you till death.
01:43:16.540
So, what do you think a guy like that who's six foot three and athletic and earning really
01:43:22.520
good money, what do you think he'd be looking for?
01:43:30.240
Have you investigated maybe what that sort of guy might be looking for?
01:43:33.440
I just want to be myself and the right person will come.
01:43:36.360
I know what you want, but what do you think he wants?
01:43:39.360
Someone who's loyal, faithful, trustworthy, which I am.
01:43:44.300
Do you think he, is there anything else that he might want?
01:43:52.120
Well, if I was going to say that I want this very, very rare commodity that's actually
01:43:56.320
very hard to attain and then really hard to keep after that, I'd want to have a game
01:44:01.800
And I'd want to understand how exactly to get that.
01:44:04.660
So do you think that, you know, you're kind of winging it here and it doesn't seem very
01:44:12.060
Do you think you might want someone who's younger?
01:44:22.900
But do you think that as you get towards 30, you become less fertile?
01:44:29.320
Then he should definitely date someone younger.
01:44:30.800
So has it occurred to you that you have to lower your standards?
01:44:34.600
I'm still delusional, apparently, is what they said.
01:44:37.880
If you were to lower your standards, what are some of the areas in which you would lower
01:44:45.880
Maybe like how well in shape they are or height, how much they make.
01:44:53.200
Conceivably, what kind of guy, could you see yourself going for a guy who's 5'10", earns
01:45:00.000
No, because that's taking something out of each different category.
01:45:04.340
But do you think you're above that, better than that?
01:45:08.240
I mean, yeah, my height-wise, I'm taller than someone that's 5'8".
01:45:11.080
But in terms of like the overall, we're talking about the overall sort of everything together.
01:45:20.520
Yeah, because I make more than them, I'm taller than them, and I'm in better shape than
01:45:27.900
But, no, it doesn't matter, but for girls it does, because we have to think about our
01:45:32.120
future, and like if I'm going to have someone with babies...
01:45:33.600
I know, but we're well aware of what you want, but we're talking about what the guy
01:45:36.460
Yeah, they want someone, they don't care about money.
01:45:38.700
If he doesn't care about money, then it's not really going to occur to him, so it's
01:45:43.260
But for me, it makes a difference, because like if I'm having children or someone...
01:45:47.820
Well, yeah, because it's my life, and it's my person I'm going to do with.
01:45:50.800
But what we're talking about here is we're trying to put ourselves in the guy's shoes,
01:45:56.940
No, not quit your job, but I'd say drastically lower your standards.
01:46:00.120
But unfortunately, when you've been around, and it's like 10 years, and you're 27, and
01:46:05.040
you've dated all these different guys, you've got all these expectations, because you would
01:46:08.700
have dated a guy who's 6'2", dated a guy who earns over 100k, you would have dated all
01:46:12.420
these different guys, and now you'll be disappointed when a guy doesn't have any of those characteristics.
01:46:31.820
I'd say I'm looking for a woman who's interesting, and who's cute, attractive, someone who's humble,
01:46:39.180
someone who isn't out here trying to put themselves all over Instagram, and trying to get all this
01:46:44.220
male validation, somebody who's religious, God-fearing, and somebody who genuinely wants to be a mother,
01:46:50.320
and wants to be a wife, and that's her life ambition.
01:47:32.200
You don't want a girl to have Instagram at all.
01:47:35.840
I don't mind if she has Instagram, but it has to be on private, just family and friends.
01:47:39.580
I love the fact that you guys are laughing like you made a point, but guys and girls
01:47:54.980
I've never had a girl say, oh, your Instagram's a little bit too public.
01:48:03.860
I don't want her to have to jump in front when there's a robber.
01:48:06.320
I don't want any of these things, and I would never expect that.
01:48:10.780
And then women have a certain job as well, to be maternal, loving, peaceful, to be a
01:48:16.180
mother, these sorts of things, and to recognize that.
01:48:19.580
So the fact that I am not maternal doesn't make me a hypocrite, because I'm not going
01:48:28.620
Would you date a guy who wants you to pay for the first date?
01:48:32.180
I would probably pay for dinner and then never see him again.
01:48:37.600
Because how am I going to know if he's going to pay her?
01:48:39.360
But so you want a trait in a partner that you yourself are not willing to accept in a
01:48:45.980
Similarly, Jake here, he might have some quarrel or objection to a woman who has a public
01:48:51.560
facing Instagram that posts certain types of photos, but he doesn't have, like, he's
01:48:57.940
It's not clear to me if that makes him a hypocrite necessarily.
01:49:00.340
Any more than it makes you a hypocrite for wanting a guy to pay for a first date, but
01:49:05.820
you would never be willing to pay for a first date.
01:49:08.520
No, I have, but then I wouldn't see them again.
01:49:17.960
So, then they cross the boundary and I'm not going to accept that.
01:49:21.160
Are you saying that guys and girls have different roles in that situation when it comes to a
01:49:30.060
So, then it doesn't make you a hypocrite having different standards.
01:49:42.800
But, so, you said that it's okay for a woman to want a provider, right?
01:49:48.200
But, so, and would you consider that traditional gender role?
01:49:51.500
So, like, a man being a provider, that's a traditional man.
01:49:53.840
And a man who wants 50-50, who wants to split the bill, that's a modern man, right?
01:49:58.860
Well, is a modern woman a woman who posts revealing, immodest photos on Instagram?
01:50:08.520
But, so, is a woman traditional if she's posting, revealing...
01:50:14.640
I'm just asking, is a woman traditional if she posts revealing photos on Instagram?
01:50:20.560
Do you think a component of being a traditional woman is modesty?
01:50:29.580
I think you just keep agreeing to what we're saying and then could not quite sort of conceding.
01:50:35.500
Yeah, you should be a little modest, but you can still...
01:50:38.120
But if you want a guy who's got all these different things going on, you're talking about
01:50:41.200
a top, top, top tier guy who's going to be able to fulfill all of his masculine duties.
01:50:45.740
So then shouldn't you be fulfilling all of your feminine duties?
01:50:52.760
If you've got a guy who's earning upwards of 100K a year...
01:50:56.080
But, I mean, guys, my dating pool's so small, so I'm just living in Duluthu land.
01:51:03.480
I've got to provide for myself until I can find that person.
01:51:15.640
Actually, before we go around the table on this question, Austin, can you pull up Twitch,
01:51:21.960
We'll pull up Mason's thing one more time, too.
01:51:38.860
Drop us a follow in the Prime sub if you have one.
01:51:45.680
All right, so 50% of all the fan funding, and this includes Twitch subs and Amazon Prime
01:51:52.440
Twitch, Twitch Prime subs, 50% of it will go to Mason's Medical Expenses.
01:51:59.660
Also, guys, go to our Discord, discord.gg slash whatever.
01:52:07.660
Guys, if you recall from last stream, we had that fake poser conservative Christian OF girl.
01:52:15.680
On the show, claimed she didn't make certain kind of content.
01:52:23.960
And when confronted about it, here was the crazy part.
01:52:26.560
When confronted about it, she kept denying it, which was very frustrating, kind of just
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calling into question, essentially just insulting the viewers and our intelligence here.
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Like, it's one thing to lie, but then to, like, if you get called out on it with irrefutable
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evidence and just not copying, yeah, okay, I was bullshitting, it's just super annoying.
01:52:51.340
She has a, obviously, we can't show the video on stream, but she's got a tattoo on her arm.
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It matches the tattoo that she showed us on stream.
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And, yeah, so that's available at discord.gg slash whatever.
01:53:05.720
And I think a few of the other people, like, in Baron's chat, they might have been posting,
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So, like, you guys can verify for yourself, this chick was full of shit, the girl from Sunday.
01:53:19.640
So, allegedly, also, allegedly involved in escorting, but I don't think we've 100% verified
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it, but at least from what I've seen, it's pretty, and then, wait, hold on, go back to,
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Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever, twitch.tv slash whatever, just once again, and I'm going to
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pull it up in just a sec, if you, can you check if you guys have a Prime sub?
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Because 50% of it from the Prime subs is going to go to Mason.
01:53:53.400
Austin, if you're able to pull up the Instagram post from, about Mason.
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So, Mason was in a, Mason, he's been on the show eight, nine times, giga Chad Virgin.
01:54:04.960
Very sad, he was, he was in a motorcycle accident a couple days ago on September 11th.
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Uh, he had a ruptured, I don't know if it's in this post, if it says it, but he had a,
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I believe it was a ruptured aorta, which is the heart, right?
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So, um, all the, uh, all the fan funding tonight.
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Uh, all the fan funding tonight, Super Chat, Streamlabs messages, TTS, Twitch subs, Prime
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subs, 50% of all the earnings from tonight's episode are going to go towards Mason's medical
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Uh, pull up the, the, the, the give, send, go tab or whatever.
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Uh, so if you guys, you guys can send it through here if you want, you can send it.
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Um, there's also like, he has a Venmo that you can send to.
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Um, Andrew Wilson very generously sent in a thousand dollar, uh, donation and, uh, we,
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So if you guys want, just, just, uh, show some support to, uh, to Mason, you can do it through
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Or if you want to, you know, as you normally contribute to the show, you can do it that
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50% of, uh, all fan funding tonight will go to Mason's medical expenses.
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Do you think that I just quit my job to go full time?
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But like, so the question is, what do you bring to the table in the relationship?
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Do you think your job is something that you bring to the table?
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And, uh, we have money to go on vacation and do fun stuff and go out for dinner.
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But do you think in the calculus of what your boyfriend or any man for that matter, uh, cares
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about, do you think your job is high up there in terms of what men, uh, in terms of making
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an assessment of how attractive you are to him?
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Um, I think my boyfriend really likes it that I follow my passion.
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And I mean, you talk a lot about your job because it's a big part of your life.
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So I think having something interesting to talk to and having money to do fun stuff works.
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But I mean, mostly the, the fact that I'm caring, that I'm fun, I think that's good.
01:57:11.260
But in general, do you, do you think that men typically highly prioritize a woman's career
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in terms of the calculus of what they find attractive?
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Do you disagree with, uh, and the whole panel can answer this.
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Men do not care, generally speaking, about your educational achievement or your career
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I don't think they care about how much money you make.
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I do think they, they care about what your education is and what kind of job you have.
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But I mean, so wouldn't, I mean, that would to some degree tie into your earnings.
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But, um, perhaps not if you're like a feminist studies or some shit.
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Um, but, uh, so you think most men care about that?
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A woman's career does not make her more attractive to a man, generally speaking.
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But like, if I had just like a normal job, I feel like most men don't care.
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Cause like, if like, as a man, you're in the provider role, like you would be the provider
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But like, obviously, you know, a woman should be educated and like, you know, have like ambition.
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So like, maybe she doesn't have the best job, but she is really ambitious in artwork or, you know, she really likes making YouTube or just like has like a hobby where she can be creative.
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And like, I don't know, just show that, you know, she has ambition to achieve goals, like no matter how big or small, I guess.
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Men in general do not care about a woman's career in terms of it making him more attracted to her.
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I don't think they care about career either, but I kind of agree with her on the other, like the passions and the hobbies and things like that aside from a career.
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I'm not even sure about that one, but Jake or well.
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No, I don't care at all about your career, but I do, I do like it when a woman has interests though and has things that she's interested in because if she likes reading books and if she likes like making arts and crafts or something like that, then I like that because they can do things in their spare time.
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And it makes them more interesting to talk to you because you have to, you do have to talk to this person when you're old.
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Couldn't you just like, she's in the other room and you're just kind of.
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I probably generally don't care as much as like women would care about a guy's career, but I mean, I think it's also important to like, if a woman does have a career that you should probably like what her career is or like find it interesting.
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Because that ties into what her hobbies could be depending on her career.
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Like, I would ideally have my wife working for my business with me and being able to do like the emails and being competent in a way and not just being a sack.
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I mean, it's good if she's not just fumbling all over the place and has no.
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And also, if you go out of town for a week and you're like, hey, you need to take care of the kids and hold it down at home, you need to be able to make sure that she's like, yeah, cool.
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I think, at least for me, what I would look for is, because, I mean, once you kind of get into a place where you're earning such amount of money, I would want a girl who's ready to help me with my mission.
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Because in my mind, I'm like, well, you could have your 50, 60, 70K career, or if we're going to be long-term partners, have kids or whatever, if you can free me up by helping me, and then that can enable me to go on and make an additional $200,000 a year, it just makes way more sense for you to quit whatever you're doing and come help me.
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Okay, you can have your 60K career, or by helping me, I earn us an additional $200,000 a year.
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So if you can get, and if you can help out, and you don't even necessarily even have to be necessarily even involved with the business, although you could be.
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It could be just like, how can you free up time for me, make my life easier, so I can go out and kill it for the both of us?
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There's a big difference for a guy between operating at 95% and 105%.
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And if a woman can make that difference, if the guy's already high-achieving, then it'll make a bigger financial difference than your career or your job.
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I really, her porn ambitions, she needs to, she needs to be more ambitious in her porn career.
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I think that the person who is with me is blessed to never be bored.
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I mean, we could go to raves together or we could just game together, play D&D together.
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When a girl says, you'll never be bored with me, all I just think about is there's going
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I mean, obviously, you're going to have some arguments, but no.
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I need someone who is spontaneous so we can go out together and explore.
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I like trying new things, so couples' adventures, I guess.
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I actually have never done a gangbang, so yeah, it doesn't count.
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Like, I can get along with an array of people, you know?
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By the end of tonight's show, I'm pretty sure we can get you to quit porn.
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I mean, it didn't work last time, so I don't know.
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Well, this time we have Jake here, and we have Yael, who's...
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Should we get this girl out of the porn industry?
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I think, you know, we'll probably do a nine-hour show tonight, so we've got like seven hours.
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One of these days, we'll do like a 24-hour stream or something.
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Selena, do you want to eventually be engaged in a relationship, a happy marriage, children,
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Um, I mean, it's just like, it's something I enjoy doing, like, and I, like, obviously
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I'm 19, so I haven't been doing it for that long.
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So you can get out and, well, you still can, maybe.
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I mean, I could change careers if I wanted to, but for now I'm happy doing what I'm doing.
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Do you ever stop to think about the detrimental effect that it might have on your future?
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Do you ever, do you recognize that it's dirty money?
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I mean, I've made dirty money before in different, various ways that I can't tell the United
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States customs, but, you know, it comes with consequences.
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There's consequences, but, I mean, you could say that about a lot of jobs.
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Like, I don't know, like, I'm at a point where it's like I've kind of accepted that there's
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always going to be judgment, there will be backlash in the future, like, especially if I have
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a family and stuff, like, you know, at the end of the day, it was a decision that I made
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to do this career, and, you know, in life you have to kind of just, like, accept your
02:08:13.120
There's a lot of ways that are, you seem like a bright young lady, but there's a lot of different
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ways that you could make money, there's a lot of different things you could do.
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It's, like, the most extreme thing that you could possibly do.
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Um, I mean, initially, I just kind of started online, and it was more of, like, my fans wanting
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Um, like, I started out really small, and then I kind of just decided to do it, and it was
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Like, I wasn't thinking about all the backlash or future consequences, because I'm like, I'm
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young, whatever, I'm going to do this, because it seems fun and interesting.
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Because, like, diseases and everything is very rampant in that industry, as well.
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Do you ever think about diseases, you know, sexually transmitted diseases?
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Um, for our industry, I feel like it's very safe.
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We get tested full panel every two weeks, and we can't work without it.
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But if you have a blood disease, like HIV, then it takes six months sometimes for it
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That is true, and that's why I do PrEP, like, the HIV PrEP pill, to protect myself from that.
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Yeah, and, but there's other things, as well, that you could catch, and if you were to slip
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I'm talking about herpes, HIV, all of these different, sort of, things that you could catch.
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I mean, well, I mean, like, yeah, that's a fair point, but it's like, I feel like in
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our industry, like, we're safer than average people, because, like, we do care about being
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So often, like, the likelihood is just very low, I feel like.
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I mean, like, 14-day, like, in a 14-day span, the only thing I worry about is people, what
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they do in their spare time, because I don't know if they're going out, you know, with anybody.
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If you're always engaging in sex, then just by that alone, then you're putting yourself
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And also, the numbers show that these diseases are much more prevalent.
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Like, herpes is very, very prevalent in the porn industry.
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And that's a risk you take by doing it, you know?
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It kind of just depends who you are, how much...
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It seems like, like, from what you're saying, you sort of just fell into it.
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You're not delusional that there are all of these consequences.
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But you don't want to get out of it at this stage.
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Yeah, I mean, I think right now I'm happy, you know, pursuing it.
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And, you know, in a few years, if I don't want to do it anymore, then I don't have to
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Like, just recently, in the last year or so, there's been all of these different porn
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stars that have finished their career and off themselves.
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Yeah, I mean, I have heard about all those stories, and it is very sad.
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It's like they tend to get sort of used up and then thrown away after their career, after
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these, like, long 20-year careers, and then they're not attractive anymore.
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And then once their beauty fades, they get sort of tossed to the side.
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And, like, I feel like as far as, like, offing yourself and stuff, that's prevalent just in
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the world in general, not just necessarily within a certain industry.
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Like, you never know what people deal with, what they're going through, their experiences.
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I actually didn't know those women, so I don't know what they dealt with in their life.
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It could have been something completely unrelated to my industry.
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Yeah, I was just wondering what you thought about...
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Like, because starting at, like, a younger age versus, like, people that are older, not
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that I know much about, like, the effects on different people, but since it has, like,
02:11:58.040
effect on people's mental health, do you think it might be worse, like, for people that
02:12:05.860
For mental health, I feel like I've always personally struggled with it.
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Like, I've struggled with depression, anxiety, you know, and it's just, it's always been
02:12:15.880
Like, mentally, I've always been, you know, not the best, and I feel like even if I did
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a different career, I would still be struggling, and that's why I'm kind of just, like, it
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is hard mentally to put yourself out there and be vulnerable, like, your whole body and,
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Like, it is difficult, and, like, I do get judged, like, in every way.
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Like, literally, every single thing about me gets judged.
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And it is hard, but, I mean, I guess in the future I'll see about my mental health and
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the effects that it had, but that's just, you know, it's life.
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I just, I forgot to actually make my own point on this.
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Vast majority of men really don't care about your career.
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Like, a lot of girls will say, I bring my career to the table.
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It doesn't make you, when I say they don't care, I mean it doesn't make you more attractive
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to them, in the same way that a woman might be, like, really attracted to a man who's
02:13:40.740
Women will tend to really prioritize trying to date these kinds of men who have these kinds
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of positions, they're in high demand, it makes them more attractive to women.
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Women who occupy these positions typically don't become more attractive.
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Posting this for Mason rather than for the panel that is uninterested in what quality man
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is looking for, but it still needs to be said, ladies, your career ambitions doesn't
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Yo, Desert Joe, thank you so much for the TTS, man.
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For example, like, women, I don't know if you'll know this, like, so, have you ever seen these
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concerts where a woman will be, like, go to a concert, her favorite musician or whatever,
02:14:33.660
and she'll, like, write a message on her iPhone, like, I'll fuck you right now?
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Like, like, men who have, who are really high status, who are famous, athletes, musicians,
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actors, women, like, will significantly pursue these kinds of men and be, like, more turned
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But, like, a woman's status, it doesn't really make you more attractive.
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I mean, I've walked in on a few patients jacking off in the hospital.
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Like, my patients, I would, like, walk in and they're just touching themselves.
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Or they'll be, like, the door will be open and I'll be, like, sitting at my desk and
02:15:27.900
Well, I'm not really sure if that's totally related, but...
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So you're saying men are very attracted to nurses in that way?
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Like, you're a travel nurse, you're an RN, you've done a bunch of schooling for
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I've heard travel nurses make a lot of pretty good money.
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I don't think, like, you're going to be able to out-compete, like, a woman who's
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more physically attractive who works at Chick-fil-A.
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I'm not saying that to be insulting, but, like, a man will prioritize, like, a woman's...
02:16:13.540
Well, they want someone feminine, like, in their feminine energy.
02:16:21.480
I mean, men do care about being feminine, bringing peace, like, you have a good positive
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But, like, women will think, will sort of almost project, okay, I find these traits attractive
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I find status, dominance, etc., these things attractive in men.
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Ergo, men must similarly find these same traits attractive in women.
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So, women will perhaps sometimes, in a sort of confused way, pursue a career or pursue
02:16:56.940
status, thinking, once I get enough status, once I get here in my career, I will become
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In fact, as you get more money, as you earn more money, as you get more status, your pool
02:17:09.680
shrinks, not really so much from the male side of it, but because you now need men to either
02:17:18.660
You need men to have similar prestige, similar status to you.
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I need a man who makes as much or more than me.
02:17:28.220
So, typically, once men, the more money a man makes, the more status he makes, his dating
02:17:37.400
The more money and status a woman gets, her dating pool shrinks.
02:17:44.680
Well, because a guy, I guess, should be making more money than his wife if you want to have
02:17:51.200
Right, but so, that used to not be hard when women were not participating to the same degree
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So, it's very easy to be economically attractive as a man to women if the woman didn't work.
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And you used to be able to raise a family on one income.
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So, what was the way men typically, at least in the past, made themselves attractive to women
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Now, women don't need men in that same way because you're making your own money.
02:18:29.080
So, then you start looking at other things that will make you attracted to him that have
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nothing to do with providing necessarily because you can still provide for yourself.
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So, I think it used to be in the past, oh, okay, he can provide for me.
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But, anyways, ultimately, most men, if given the option, will date the 21-year-old hottie
02:18:55.480
who works at the Chick-fil-A drive-thru over the 31-year-old, I guess still good-looking,
02:19:10.020
Maybe it's a difference between Europe and America.
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Like, your countries are very liberal, like those European countries.
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But, in saying that, a lot of countries in Europe are also very Christian as well.
02:19:33.780
So, oftentimes, the girls will live at home until they're married and take the whole traditional route as well.
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They're going to be underwater, hopefully, soon.
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Well, they're pretty good engineers over there.
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Like, I think the perspective where guys will factor in, like your job, is...
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I mean, it could be a component insofar as he's like, okay, well, I want to start a family.
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It'll benefit the family if she's earning enough.
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But, like, in terms of attraction, it's not the same between men and women.
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Like, guys can make up for deficits in other realms with status and with money.
02:20:43.860
It's not so much the case for women that they can make up for their deficits in terms of what men care about when it comes to attraction, which, I mean, the big thing is obviously...
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Youth, beauty, and fertility, you don't really make up for it.
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So, again, I would argue most men, if given the option, they'll pick a 21-year-old who works at Chick-fil-A over a 31-year-old who's an attorney.
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It's not every single time, but, you know, it's...
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But a lot of the guys in these countries are, like, institutionalized with liberalism, you know?
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And they'd be just as shocked as they are to hear about these.
02:21:40.020
Well, I suppose, like, they've been propagandized and brainwashed to some degree, but...
02:21:49.100
But in terms of, like, their, like, knee-jerk initial, like, what they're attracted to, I'm sure you'd agree, even with the brainwashing, they're still going to be more attracted to the 21-year-old, like, more attracted to the 21-year-old who works at Chick-fil-A than the 31-year-old master's degree, attorney, whatever.
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But everyone feels like they need a self-censor these days and that they'd be called out for saying anything else.
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So guys just won't go with what they actually believe.
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We went around the table about what they bring to the table, I think, right?
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I would, I would like to think I'm pretty nice.
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I'm just a, I, I'm good at communicating and I feel like that's very important in a relationship.
02:23:09.320
So I, like, if they want to talk about something, I feel like it's my job to make them feel like they're understood.
02:23:17.560
And, yeah, I'm, like, trying to think, but I don't know.
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Uh, well, we'll, we'll read a couple chats here.
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Females can be on the podcast, but ain't no way we can let one get in the White House.
02:23:37.320
I would rather that gay, but gay guy than a female, especially a Democrat.
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They tried locking him up and killing him, but no man can interfere with God's plan.
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It's been, uh, Mr. Mike Davis, it's been a while.
02:24:02.540
And then, uh, we have a message here from Alixia, uh, Yael, can you read this one?
02:24:12.320
Just taking the opportunity to be a first-time supporter of the show and aid in the efforts
02:24:22.440
Thank you, uh, thank you so much for the, the, uh, message via Streamlabs.
02:24:26.960
Pretty, uh, good to have you as a first-time supporter.
02:24:44.260
I actually deleted dating apps for, like, a year.
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And then I realized that I had really bad dates in person, too.
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Can we, uh, yeah, pull up the dating apps for her?
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The first one's in Havar, and then the second one is in Laguna Beach.
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I go crazy for beach days, traveling, coffee, hiking, adventures, and good food.
02:25:57.200
Yeah, because you found your unicorn, uh, Santa Monica.
02:26:05.160
What's the chance of winning the Powerball or whatever?
02:26:15.580
Wait, so like dating you is like winning the lottery?
02:26:25.360
Well, that would be you winning the lottery for dating the guy that you want, right?
02:26:41.620
Uh, don't you think it's a bit, uh, prideful or a bit of hubris to be like dating me?
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I am so fucking amazing and special that it's like winning the lottery.
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Dating me is like buying 30 scratch cards and winning on one of them.
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Dating me is like picking up a needle from a, one of the back street of impoverished
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Because it's still, it's like winning the lottery of not getting HIV.
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And it communicates that you don't have HIV and.
02:28:09.720
Um, I don't get the winning the lottery thing though.
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It was just the prompts and I didn't know what else to put it.
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Would I date an average guy if they have a great personality?
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So average personality, average looks, average height, average pee-pee size.
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Well, it's all about the motion of the ocean, but no.
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I think average people normally, like, date each other, you know?
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Like, extremely beautiful people date each other.
02:29:09.180
Would you, you said you wouldn't, uh, did you say you wouldn't be willing to, uh, settle?
02:29:15.260
I would rather be single than settle with someone who's, like, average and boring and, like,
02:29:23.340
But what about when you're in your 40s, for example, and you're not really traveling as
02:29:28.940
much and, you know, you're not, like, young in your 20s anymore and life slows down a little
02:29:33.720
Don't you think there's a, you'd be more happy to be with a guy who works in construction
02:29:37.680
who's 5'10", earns a decent salary and he's a good guy and you guys can make kids and
02:29:44.280
My mind might change when I'm older because every year you learn something new, but at this
02:29:48.280
But isn't it just a vapid lifestyle to be doing the same thing in your 40s and 50s?
02:29:53.620
Um, I mean, I don't do anything too crazy right now.
02:29:56.480
But if you're still doing that when you're in, like, 20 years' time, don't you think it
02:30:01.820
Yeah, I mean, anything that you do for a long time, like, could get boring after a while.
02:30:06.840
I think if I was still doing what I'm doing now in 20 years' time, that's like a nightmare
02:30:12.280
I don't really think that girls think ahead that much with this sort of thing.
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You know, I want to have a big family and have lots of kids.
02:30:21.780
But I shouldn't feel the pressure of society to...
02:30:29.840
Yeah, for men to say that, because you guys don't have, like, a time clock.
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Yeah, but we've got other disadvantages, you know?
02:30:37.900
Well, the fact that we don't get any attention sexually when we're younger.
02:30:42.960
When a guy's 20, 21, with no resources, and he's probably got, like, pimples on his face
02:30:47.200
and ugly, girls don't really look twice at them.
02:30:52.440
Girls who are in between 20 and 24 are in their sexual peak.
02:30:57.100
Oh, I thought you were talking about high school.
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I mean, we should pull up one of my high school photos.
02:31:09.200
We have to develop ourselves as men, and getting into your 30s,
02:31:13.140
when you've got more resources, you're more competent, you're a better leader.
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This is when you start to get more attention, and you start to...
02:31:18.860
Yeah, well, it definitely takes guys longer to mature,
02:31:21.180
because your frontal cortex doesn't develop until you're, like, at least 25.
02:31:25.600
And you have to make a bunch of mistakes and fall on your face a bunch of times
02:31:28.400
and go out into the world and experience all different kinds of trials and tribulations.
02:31:32.480
But that actually grows your character as a guy.
02:31:34.680
But before then, you don't really get much serious attention,
02:31:37.540
unless you're, like, ridiculously good-looking.
02:31:40.260
Or unless you have some sort of precocious talent.
02:31:54.220
So, would you rather stay single for the rest of your life
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But I already have the best man I can wish for.
02:32:18.460
I don't think there's anything wrong with an average guy.
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But like you said, average date's average and all of that.
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If it's something that's going to annoy me in the long run,
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If it's something I can deal with in the long run,
02:33:36.500
But if you're living in a city or a place like Santa Barbara,
02:33:40.640
It's a big problem that we've got at the moment.
02:33:54.300
And do you want to continue working while you're, like,
02:33:59.160
once you start having kids, or what do you think?
02:34:03.540
So if you guys don't know what that is, it's, like,
02:34:07.320
which is three to five days a week, depending on your hours.
02:34:10.520
Or you can work, like, one day a week, like, per diem job,
02:34:13.940
where you just kind of work whenever you want to have an income
02:34:17.660
and, like, have a social life still and still have, like,
02:34:20.960
a normal routine and have, like, that sense of normalcy.
02:34:31.220
Dating her is like winning the lottery, gentlemen.
02:34:39.260
It says, the way to win me over is plan a proper date,
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I thought that was the best part of the whole profile.
02:35:12.220
I'd say there's a lot of red flags in that profile.
02:35:20.140
That would scream headaches for me, entitlement,
02:35:24.580
I know it's a joke, and, you know, you're just kidding.
02:35:41.340
And maybe a photo with a poncho would be better.
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Oh, and then I could be like, this is winning the lottery.
02:35:52.760
But, yeah, all of the traveling, and then when you say registered nurse
02:36:08.920
So I think one thing – like let's say there's a relationship-minded guy,
02:36:12.780
but you're – and it sounds like you stay in cities a little longer
02:36:17.420
But I remember when I was on dating apps, I'd encounter a lot of nurses.
02:36:35.420
but then I encountered a lot of these travel nurses.
02:36:37.440
They're in town for like six weeks, eight weeks.
02:36:42.800
The thing is, if she's on a dating app and she's going on dates,
02:36:47.900
she ain't dating people for long, which means what?
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And also, it's a good opportunity for you to be able to do whatever you want
02:36:56.460
and not have the social stigma of your circle back home.
02:37:03.080
So it's like, I remember I was on a date with this travel nurse.
02:37:38.840
Because you were on Tinder and Hinge and Bumble in the other 33 previous cities.
02:38:02.660
Why does it matter when you have someone who travels a lot?
02:38:07.300
Because typically people who travel a lot, so they don't make any, what's the term for it?
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They don't have, I don't know if it's roots, but like when you stay in one place, you're
02:38:21.800
going to end up hopefully with a long-term relationship.
02:38:25.140
If you know you're leaving a city in six weeks' time, are you going to date seriously or are you
02:38:38.700
Even if you date just one guy in one city, it's only going to last a couple weeks, a couple
02:38:58.920
You leave, go to the next city, and then you meet someone who's the love of your life.
02:39:02.640
And you know you're leaving, but you can go back.
02:39:08.440
So you're saying, yeah, a woman could sleep with 300 men, and then the number 301, that
02:39:15.540
could be the guy she ends up in a relationship with.
02:39:17.980
But from the male perspective, I don't want to date a girl who has 300, 200, 150 bodies.
02:39:27.400
Men hear that, and they will be repulsed by that.
02:39:30.600
And if they're not repulsed by that, and if they're willing to accept 100 bodies or more,
02:39:33.900
then their priorities aren't in the right place.
02:39:37.600
But what does traveling have to do with having a high body count?
02:39:40.360
And also, if you're on the dating apps as well, when you're traveling, and you meet
02:39:44.520
a guy on a dating app, obviously he's going to insinuate, that insinuates that you've
02:39:49.620
And also, when you're going to new cities, you don't really know anyone, you haven't
02:39:53.160
got any friends, what's the easiest way to hang out with people and have some company?
02:40:08.720
So, it's the same thing with flight attendants, right?
02:40:13.280
So, these flight attendants, it's hard for them to, like, look, there's different, I've
02:40:17.960
heard from flight attendants, there's different degrees of how frequently they're gone.
02:40:25.720
So, if you're in a new city and you're on a dating app, a lot of these, I've matched
02:40:39.640
Okay, what does she want from me if she's only in town for 12 hours?
02:40:45.200
What is the only thing that's on the table with a woman who's in town for 12 hours?
02:40:49.980
Is it a long-term relationship or does she want to fuck?
02:40:54.600
Maybe she just wants a hug and someone to talk to.
02:40:56.660
She's going to find in her primary city, she's going to get a relationship in her primary
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If she's on a dating app and she's traveling and she's in fucking Los Angeles, Miami,
02:41:08.100
wherever for 12 hours time, the long-term potential there is next to nil.
02:41:14.660
So if she's on a dating app, she's there to fuck.
02:41:18.820
Yeah, but she can move anywhere, it sounds like.
02:41:21.380
So she could move to you if you guys hit it off on the first date.
02:41:27.780
So how long is it going to take to get to that point?
02:41:31.140
All the while, she's still on Tinder, she's still on Hinge, she's still on the dating app
02:41:36.140
and she's in the next city and she's got hoes in different area codes, literally.
02:41:41.340
She's got a dude she can stay with when she's in New York, a dude she can stay with when
02:41:48.160
Well, it sounds like a little insecurity because if a man was secure, he'd be like, oh, I know
02:41:54.900
So maybe she'll just delete her dating apps and won't meet anyone else as good as me.
02:42:01.840
How's that work for women when it comes to commitment?
02:42:08.740
I mean, perhaps, I mean, you think most people can operate on this level of, I'm so fucking
02:42:22.240
amazing that immediately this person is going to drop all their other options?
02:42:35.140
Right, but like, so it would appear to me that you, yourself, I'm not saying this to
02:42:41.700
attack you, just to kind of use your language here.
02:42:49.220
I haven't built a good connection that I would think is strong enough.
02:42:53.540
So I'm saying that if you met someone that was a flight attendant and you had such an amazing
02:42:59.000
connection, you would maybe have hope that they're not going out there and dating other
02:43:04.500
Well, so even if I grant that I could meet a flight attendant and she's really cool,
02:43:10.840
whatever, I'm still going to vet her on her past promiscuity.
02:43:15.260
And if she's 30 and she's been a flight attendant for, I don't know, 10 years or whatever,
02:43:31.180
Maybe she'll give some to you so you can take some flights.
02:43:40.180
You're not in one, it's harder for you to get a long-term relationship because you don't
02:43:47.640
So, and this is, look, this applies to men too.
02:43:51.140
Like, men who are, men and women who are on the road a lot, whether this means flying,
02:44:06.580
Long distance is more difficult than just being in the same place as somebody.
02:44:17.640
If I'm seeing a girl in a city, she'll be like, oh, well, I mean, is there any hope for
02:44:21.820
this for the future because you're just going to be in another city next month?
02:44:24.260
And how do I know you haven't got a girl in the next city?
02:44:27.120
So, it's very difficult to be us traveling people.
02:44:37.340
So, in my own anecdotal experience, having encountered a couple travel nurses, I match
02:44:47.760
If I'm inclined, you know, if a guy's inclined, he's not going to view her as a long-term prospect,
02:44:56.240
And so, what's ultimately going to happen is what's most likely going to happen.
02:45:01.540
As soon as she leaves to her next assignment, she goes to some, he's on the West Coast,
02:45:05.980
she's on the East Coast, it's going to be the end, right then and there.
02:45:10.280
And if she's done that 10, 20, 30 times throughout her career, she's just already racked up a body
02:45:16.080
count on top of what she already did in college, on top of what she's just already going to
02:45:20.220
do before she meets the guy who she's going to be exclusive with for two months.
02:45:26.280
She already hooked up with three, four, five, six, seven guys in this new city she's in.
02:45:38.060
I think people don't really understand the whole, like, career aspect of it because you
02:45:42.640
could be a travel nurse and you could do, be, like, considered a local travel nurse, which
02:45:46.860
means you just travel to, like, hospitals in your city, a few cities away.
02:45:57.960
You've been in five different cities in three years, right?
02:46:01.180
How many men did you date in each of those cities?
02:46:10.620
I'll go on dates casually, but I haven't dated anyone the entire time that.
02:46:15.780
Well, you said you've been single for four years.
02:46:40.600
You can, you can ask my roommates, my friends, my family.
02:46:57.680
No, because I feel like a lot of people in this generation just want to hook up, especially
02:47:03.800
So, I want something that's, like, real, and I want to see if someone's willing to wait
02:47:08.980
and put the work in and take me on dates and plan them, and if I have a connection with
02:47:18.700
Wait, so you've been celibate for a year and a half.
02:47:22.280
How long are you waiting to, until you hook up with him?
02:47:34.200
In the past four years, have you gone on three to five dates with any guys?
02:47:38.420
I think I made it to, like, date number five, and then he was leaving to go out of the country,
02:47:47.400
And he also had a family that I found out about.
02:47:55.860
Might not be the case with you, but I often find that they call themselves celibate because
02:48:00.540
they didn't like the guy, but they don't count the guy they met in Boston that one night.
02:48:10.260
One night stands count, but I haven't had intercourse with a single person.
02:48:40.560
You said it was, like, three years you've been traveling?
02:48:44.720
So in, like, all the other cities, what would you do?
02:48:53.400
If, like, you want to hook up with someone, that's your body.
02:49:00.280
And, like, you release a lot of, like, serotonin, dopamine.
02:49:04.880
But also, it's, like, an energy exchange as well.
02:49:11.380
You said you've had a couple one night stands more recently?
02:49:16.760
Well, like, two years ago, three years ago, you had some one night stands here and there.
02:49:19.900
And then, like, you went to college, maybe some hookups in college.
02:49:23.180
Yeah, mostly just, like, college and then after graduate.
02:49:26.100
What is the quickest from, like, first meeting to it's getting, it's going down?
02:49:39.380
Yeah, because I want to, like, talk to someone and see who they are.
02:49:44.360
So can you pull up her dating app profile again?
02:49:50.060
So the way to win me over is plan a proper date, be a gentleman, and take me on adventures.
02:50:00.440
And then, in addition to that, you also just said now how you want to wait, you'd wait three
02:50:12.620
Because you said you've, I mean, you said you've had one night stands.
02:50:15.340
Yeah, I think I had that phase in my life where it was fun and casual, but now I'm looking
02:50:21.100
for something more serious, and I feel like guys take you more seriously when you tell
02:50:27.900
I think you should convey that better on your profile.
02:50:33.160
Maybe just look a little bit more modest and not like the whole traveling thing, and just
02:50:40.020
Because when I see that profile, I think recreational use only.
02:50:47.520
I'm going to put that in my caption, recreational use only.
02:50:55.480
I don't, I wouldn't do it personally, but I'm saying when you put people into categories
02:51:00.780
on dating apps, and I'd say that just through the photos and through the bio, it'd be like,
02:51:06.400
you know, maybe signifying just having a bit of fun in a new city, have a few dates.
02:51:10.980
Yeah, but I feel like on the date, then I would like open up and...
02:51:16.400
You guys read into it a lot more than we do, but we still read into it.
02:51:20.160
I just like power swipe until I find someone to check out.
02:51:37.360
What's the most you've spent on like either some sort of jewelry or a purse or anything?
02:51:41.540
Um, I mean, mostly just like clothes, probably like two or three hundred dollars.
02:51:56.820
Uh, and then, so the question I guess for you is, um, would you feel kind of ripped
02:52:02.880
off if you went to, uh, go get some Louboutins and you spent, I don't know how much they,
02:52:12.100
And then the very next day, one of your girlfriends goes to the same store, same store and the store
02:52:19.460
sold her the exact same shoes that you bought for a hundred dollars.
02:52:27.060
I kind of feel like that's how men feel when women previously gave out sex super easy,
02:52:33.400
like one night stands, uh, casual sex, whatever.
02:52:37.740
And then now that you've had your fun, now that you've lent, you've, you're looking for
02:52:42.820
something serious now, now you're going to make these new guys wait a couple of dates.
02:52:55.860
Maybe that's like, they got to take you on a trip somewhere before you're going to give
02:53:05.480
It's like, why do I got to do all this shit when that guy at the club that didn't take you
02:53:10.500
on a date, didn't, wasn't really even a gentleman, he got to hit within three hours.
02:53:17.660
But why do I, the guy you think you want a relationship with, why do I got to wait three weeks?
02:53:34.220
I feel like you could have an adventure just like sitting at home, going to the beach.
02:53:38.100
Like you can have local adventure, just like making life fun.
02:53:41.680
That could be an adventure, going to the playground, swinging.
02:53:46.220
I think it's, uh, it's, uh, it's kind of a raw deal from it.
02:53:51.060
So, I mean, essentially, do you promise that you will never have a one night stand again?
02:54:01.940
But, but that's what, like, that's what's so confusing.
02:54:05.300
Women will say, for example, you'll say, you even said it here.
02:54:12.580
I want a relationship, but you're not even still ruling out the possibility of having a
02:54:19.380
I mean, I'm just not going to lie about it and be like, oh, I'm never going to.
02:54:23.140
Maybe I'll change my mind when I'm, if I'm 40 and single, I don't want to get laid.
02:54:27.840
But this is like another layer of like the, the ripoff component here.
02:54:32.820
It's like, it's one thing I suppose for a woman to, okay, well I was in college.
02:54:38.120
I had a string of hookups, but now I'm looking for relationship.
02:54:45.380
But then to say like, imagine as a guy, the last guy she hooked up with before you, she
02:54:52.580
fucked him within an hour and then you come along and then she makes you wait three months.
02:55:05.700
You got to do adventures, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
02:55:07.520
Then you date her for, you get the pussy, you date her for six months, you break up.
02:55:14.580
The next guy she gets into a relationship, she fucks the same day she meets him.
02:55:28.640
Like you're trying to, it's like you're playing a game.
02:55:38.400
Because like when you have sex with someone, you are building a connection based on, you
02:55:44.620
When I want to build like a deeper emotional, intellectual connection.
02:55:54.200
But let's say the guy that you want to relationship with, he wants to have sex on the first date.
02:56:04.920
I mean, look, you're, you're, you're totally fine to do that.
02:56:14.280
Look, as a woman, you could have had sex with a hundred men within five minutes of meeting
02:56:21.540
And man number 101, you could look at him and you're not even religious.
02:56:25.620
You could say, you have to wait until marriage to fuck me.
02:56:31.960
What I'm advising is that men look at a woman like that and say, that's a raw fucking deal.
02:56:46.200
No, that's not, that's not even what I'm saying.
02:56:48.260
I'm just saying it's kind of like, okay, here's an analogy, right?
02:57:04.220
There's seven people in front of you in line at McDonald's.
02:57:13.340
You ask for a hamburger and the cashier says, it'll be $100 for you for the hamburger.
02:57:24.640
And then as soon as you pay the $100, the 10 people behind you, they then get the burger
02:57:41.860
The $100 burger, it's the McDonald's cheeseburger.
02:57:45.560
But in like relationships, not every relationship is the same.
02:57:53.660
But like what you're offering to all those men.
02:58:04.160
In fact, you could even make the argument that.
02:58:16.280
But the other thing is you've accrued relationship baggage.
02:58:19.600
You've accrued trauma from your past relationships.
02:58:22.180
You're going to bring that into your new relationship.
02:58:57.440
The men who would arguably be the least deserving of sex.
02:59:05.900
And then the guy that arguably is the most deserving of sex.
02:59:14.260
He has to chase the carrot on the stick like a good little, little simp worker boy.
02:59:18.820
A little, a little, a little, what are the ants called?
02:59:25.720
You put in five first dates and you pay for the date and you're a little, give me that
02:59:30.040
an ass out hug and a kiss on the cheek on the first date.
02:59:37.120
Would you marry a girl that you fuck on the first date?
02:59:42.560
Well, I don't want to get married, but yeah, yes.
02:59:46.460
I've, so I'll tell you about, I've not been married, but I've had multiple long-term relationships
02:59:53.640
The rapidity, the quickness with which I sleep with a girl is kind of ultimately irrelevant.
02:59:58.200
It can be an indicator for potential promiscuity.
03:00:03.540
I think there's actually far greater, uh, red flags than that.
03:00:08.100
Of all my long-term relationships, it was like first, second, or third date.
03:00:12.480
It wasn't like, let's wait three months, 60, what, what are the, some of the terms the
03:00:18.860
30, 30 day, 90 day policy or what would they say?
03:00:25.600
And if you're still interested, 60 day rule, it's like, no, none of my things.
03:00:30.760
In fact, all the girls that like made me wait, I just dipped really.
03:00:39.980
Like, uh, like if they just continue to make me wait and I'm like, it's one thing if she's
03:00:45.940
a virgin or has a low body count and her standard for waiting has been the standard that she's
03:00:50.840
equally and equitably applied to all her previous partners.
03:00:55.120
But if you're going to have, you've had 10 one night stands, you had a one, a one night
03:01:00.300
stand three months ago, your values have not sufficiently changed for me to believe that
03:01:04.940
this isn't an act and that you're just not leveraging this to get something from me.
03:01:10.160
You need to, I just wouldn't believe them as well.
03:01:12.880
Like, you know, you, you don't have the evidence if, if they've had a certain past and they say,
03:01:17.440
like you've said, I've, I've been celibate for a year and a half.
03:01:26.720
It's actually like you're making drama where there is none.
03:01:29.380
I feel like you're looking into it way more than you should.
03:01:40.480
Men are more logical when we, when we think about these sorts of things and past promiscuity
03:01:47.080
They've done studies on this and they show that as a woman's body count goes up five,
03:01:51.840
10, they become exponentially more likely to, to end a marriage.
03:02:00.860
So what's like an average number for a guy to have?
03:02:11.100
But a lot, a lot of guys, that's, that's where they sit.
03:02:21.080
Well, most, like you'd be surprised to know that most guys are out there at the moment
03:02:27.280
A lot of guys in their, in their twenties even have been celibate for a whole year.
03:02:35.160
I'm just really curious and I want to ask like all the girls here, it's like the mindset
03:02:40.000
that you guys have, is that normal here or is that like, yeah.
03:02:49.360
I just wanted to know that because it seems so, like you said, like you think we're brainwashed,
03:02:55.300
but it's funny because I think we think the same thing about you guys.
03:02:58.900
Well, I mean, you're from Australia and you kind of have this.
03:03:02.660
In terms of like the liberal sort of mindset, happy wife, happy life type stuff.
03:03:09.240
And I think that there is an objective truth about this.
03:03:11.580
It's that people who have lower body counts going into marriage are much more likely to
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It's just fascinating that that's so important.
03:03:20.920
Well, do you think it's important when you're going into spending the rest of your life with
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somebody and having them mother your children that you should be looking into these things?
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No, I don't mind if my guy slept with 10 or 1,000 women.
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I'm speaking more as a guy looking into the past of a woman.
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I've never been asked about body count or anything like that.
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So it's just very fascinating to hear that side of things.
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Well, like I said before, you can actually look at the fruits of it.
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And this is actually borne out by stats as well to show that women who have a higher body
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If you want to have a logical analysis of the person that you're about to spend your life with.
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Sleeping with people does not make you any type of worse relationship.
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Do you think that if you sleep with 1,000 people in a year, that makes you a worse partner?
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I think it actually says nothing about you, except that your libido might be quite high.
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I'd say that would make you a total whore if you sleep with 1,000 people in a year.
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And it would say a lot about what kind of a partner you'd be as well.
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It's not just something that we can do and just never think about again.
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Do you think it's natural to have sex with lots of different people?
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I think a lot of women, like if they knew that a man slept with like 10,000 women, they'd maybe get a bit of an ick.
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No, I prefer a guy who slept with more women because then they know what they're doing and they're experienced.
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Are they more experienced or what is your question?
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I don't get this whole like you need to sleep with a lot of people to either become good at sex or get experienced at sex.
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You could actually make the argument that a woman who's had, for example, 20 one-night stands and that's it versus a woman who's had one or two boyfriends and has had slept with them dozens or hundreds of times.
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She's probably going to be better in bed than the woman who's had 20, 30, 40, 50 one-night stands.
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Everybody is different and also the communication style is different.
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So the woman who's had one boyfriend who's had sex with him a ton, she is different.
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She's going to be better in bed than the girl who slept with 20 men one time each.
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I think it depends what you mean by better in bed though.
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I don't think that girls who are really promiscuous are good in bed.
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It depends what you want by sex and it's kind of unattractive when a girl is really promiscuous and she's just there to get her rocks off.
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It's not this sort of important thing because if it's really important and it's really special for her, then that's actually a very attractive thing.
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But if she's just there to sort of have an orgasm, that's kind of gross.
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There's also a really big differential here between sexual performance between men and women.
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You could make the argument that the man who's sexually experienced is going to be better in bed.
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I'm not sure if this equally applies to women though.
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First off, typically women are going, unless the woman takes on a more dominant role in the sexual encounter,
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I would argue that so long as a woman is open-minded and enthusiastic, that's all it takes to have good sex with her.
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I'm not so sure if a woman's encountering a male virgin that she's going to have amazing sex guaranteed with a male virgin.
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But a man who has some degree of experience in the bedroom can take an inexperienced woman when it comes to sex or even a woman who has no experience and have amazing sex with her.
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If she's nervous and shy and it means a lot to her, then that's attractive because she hasn't given it out to a bunch of different guys.
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And if it means a lot to her, that's a very attractive thing.
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And if she's passionate enough about you, and if it's a big deal for her, it's a good thing.
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If it's just nothing for her, that's really unattractive.
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Also, what is actually wrong with something being special to somebody?
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Like, do you, as a girl, do you really want to be pussy number 130?
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I feel like most women, look, maybe you want a guy with a bit more sexual experience, whatever.
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Don't you still, perhaps in the relationship, want to be special to him?
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Having sex, I said it on Dutch television, having sex is the same as going to a theme park for me.
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You go out, you have fun, and then you go back home.
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Most guys who are self-respecting would look at that and think, oh, you're just completely desensitized to sex.
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And that's a very unattractive thing, to be desensitized like that.
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I understand where you're coming from now, more than what I did.
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Also, sex is not like a complicated procedure, you know?
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Like, it's not this complicated operation, you know?
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But like, okay, you're saying like the quality of the sex.
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Like, oh, if she hasn't fucked 30 guys, then the sex is going to be really bad with her.
03:10:29.520
I mean, the reality is, though, first off, women look to men to be leaders and to be dominant.
03:10:39.760
Some people like different kind of dynamics in a relationship.
03:10:42.700
But as a guy, if you know what you're doing in bed, you can take a girl who's never had sex and have really good sex with her if you know how to lead sexually, right?
03:10:55.380
I don't think women would be turned on by having to teach a guy how to fuck them.
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But as a guy, I would have no problem, like, helping the woman along if she's not that sexually experienced.
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In fact, there could be some, like, excitement component to that, you know?
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It's like the girl who's like, I've never done this before, and she, like, immediately, like, cluck, cluck, 9,000 or whatever.
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When she's, like, a little shy and doesn't really know what's up?
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I mean, I do think that there is something attractive about that.
03:11:34.640
And it also just shows morals and virtue as well, if it's something that you take seriously.
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And then if you take something really seriously, it's really important to you, and then you give that to somebody, it shows that they're giving you something really important that means a lot to them.
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It means more than just having just random, you know, bodies whacking together.
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So, also, I don't know if it's, like, the same for women, but, like, let's say she is not the, again, though, if you're a guy and you know what you're doing, you can go ahead and first time having sex with a girl.
03:12:08.160
You can continue having really good sex with her, even if she's a virgin, even if she's unexperienced.
03:12:12.420
If you know how to lead and you know what you're doing and you know how to be even, like, a percentage, I guess, to some degree dominant or leading in the bedroom.
03:12:28.460
Something about, like, experience or whatever, being good in bed kind of slipped my mind.
03:12:34.520
Oh, what I was going to say was maybe it's a deal breaker for a girl, like, if a guy is bad in bed the first time.
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Like, I would give a girl a lot of leeway, especially if she genuinely was inexperienced.
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I'd be like, hey, there's – I care more about just the sex with you.
03:12:54.920
This is something we can work on if it takes a couple weeks, months, whatever.
03:12:59.520
Like, I'm going to be spending hours hanging out with you.
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We're going to, like, do things besides just sex.
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I don't care at all if she's – I'd much, much prefer if she's really inexperienced.
03:13:20.380
Like, virgin would be ideal, and then you can just develop together rather than someone who's really experienced.
03:13:27.180
Oh, also, I think what I was going to get at here is the differential in sexual performance between men and women.
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So, it's really hard as a woman to fuck up sex, I think.
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Like, you don't really got to do much to – why are you laughing, Selena?
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If she's on top, you don't have to do anything.
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I mean, look, it's really not that complicated.
03:14:28.900
And if you guys need an earmuff, any of you need an earmuff.
03:14:31.700
Do you think you could get yourself off without rubbing yourself?
03:14:48.840
Wait, when he is starfishing, but you can't sit on top of him or not?
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And he's not doing anything, but he does have a hard on.
03:15:09.040
I mean, women's orgasm response is pretty varied, but, like, could you?
03:15:20.560
He just has – he has an erection, and he's just – he's not thrusting or moving.
03:15:34.420
If the dude is a sex doll, could you just, like, do all the work?
03:15:40.840
Either he's laying down, so you would be on top, or he's standing up, and you'd be in, like, doggy or something.
03:16:09.020
I mean, it would be really hard to do it, to be honest.
03:16:24.540
But, like, also, sex is about, like, chemistry.
03:16:26.720
So, like, if there's no chemistry and the dude isn't putting in effort, I'm not turned on by that.
03:16:33.180
I guess the reason I ask this question is that women have a – I guess not always, but have a more complex sexual response here.
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So, some women can't come from penetrative sex.
03:16:50.800
Someone have more difficulty than others when it comes to climaxing.
03:16:55.280
And then some be, like, coming, like, 20 times in a row within 10 seconds each, you know?
03:17:08.100
You were saying how, like, it's hard – or it's not that hard for –
03:17:12.940
Well, I think the point I'm trying to make is women will care far more about sexual performance and, like, project this on men to some degree.
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You could just be in doggy position and not moving at all.
03:17:33.880
I don't even know if it's 50% of women who could climax without, like, the guy just having a stiffy.
03:18:02.280
But I guess this all stems from, like, well, a woman who's had more sexual partners, she's going to be better in bed, more experienced.
03:18:08.900
One, I'm not sure if that's even true because, like we already said, she could have had one or two long-term boyfriends, had plenty of sexual experience.
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But then the other thing is, I'm not sure if guys really even care.
03:18:25.680
Like, what are you going to – like, I don't know.
03:18:35.720
But still, you don't want to have someone in bed who is, like, really bad.
03:18:41.220
Ladies, this is all – like, look, there's varying degrees.
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That's a one-sided thing because, like, I'm sitting there bored.
03:19:01.740
But the argument here is, doesn't a guy care about a woman's experience so that she can give him good sex?
03:19:15.360
But, like, a lot of guys don't feel that way, I feel like.
03:19:20.080
She's got to come before me, preferably more than once if she can do that.
03:19:35.760
That's why maybe you didn't make her come multiple times.
03:19:44.840
I'm just saying – I mean, women – it's crazy, though.
03:19:59.720
And it's going to take you 30 minutes with a lot of work.
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Other women – they're – what's the – what would be the equivalent of a two-pump chump?
03:20:17.220
Bro, some women have – I'm – you penetrate, and they've already started coming.
03:20:30.320
I feel like that would only happen if you, like, didn't have sex for, like, 10 years.
03:20:35.800
There's – okay, so, I don't know, Jake, if you've encountered this.
03:20:45.080
That's so much more rare than the opposite, though.
03:20:47.940
It is relatively more rare, but, like, there are women who – they'll come within five seconds,
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and then they'll come again 10 seconds later, 10 seconds later, 10 seconds later, 10 seconds later.
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I would hate that because, like, you can't enjoy it.
03:21:41.660
Like, if you came so many times in a row, like, that would hurt after a while.
03:22:16.880
As a man, if you need a woman to do flips on it, you watch entirely too much prawn.
03:22:22.020
Simply being fit, what enthusiastic and vocal will get most men off.
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I don't know what kind of, like, pussy you've been getting, Desmond, but I don't think I've, like...
03:23:08.200
But it was more so because she, like, not because of the pussy.
03:23:11.480
It was because she was just kind of being annoying.
03:23:27.640
Wait, let me find my notes about the pizza thing.
03:23:28.780
Well, then why would you have sex if, like, the attitude is so bad?
03:23:32.660
Sometimes you don't find out until, you know, it's too late.
03:24:00.420
Yeah, for girls, if the sex is bad, that shit's bad.
03:24:26.840
But girls who say they're really good in bed, whenever I hear a girl say it, I'm like,
03:24:33.740
Maybe there is someone who's just incredible out there, but it's not going to be that different.
03:24:38.000
Does it make you want to find out or, like, turn off?
03:24:43.080
I actually don't hear, I don't hear girls saying, I'm really good at sex.
03:24:50.860
Well, that's probably the, that's the thing that is, that really does vary.
03:24:58.000
Yeah, you gotta have experience to give a good BJ.
03:25:00.780
But you could have got that experience from one guy.
03:25:18.580
Did you have to cover her mouth up to get her to stop talking, Brixen?
03:25:30.220
It was just, you know, she was kind of annoying.
03:25:35.640
Like right before she had sex, she was like at my place and she's like, did you not put
03:25:46.380
Well, then why would you like have sex with her?
03:25:50.060
I'm not gonna let a toilet seat get between me and some pussy, son.
03:25:53.240
You think I'm gonna let a toilet seat conversation?
03:25:59.600
If a dude pissed me off that bad, I would not have sex with him.
03:26:05.220
She's like, oh, that's very rude of you in your own place to not put the toilet seat
03:26:14.440
She was just, she just made like one comment and you're like, total bitch.
03:26:24.120
I get very, I get easily, uh, easily triggered.
03:26:35.880
Let's get into, we got to get to the notes finally.
03:26:43.760
Stifler asks, ask everyone to rate their looks, total slash face slash body on a scale
03:26:59.900
Desiree was just telling a story about a toilet seat too.
03:27:23.960
I have to rate my looks, my total face and body, but I can't say seven.
03:27:31.040
So I have to give three scores or all in total?
03:27:55.260
Oh, so you're saying eight for face, six for body.
03:28:22.920
Um, I feel like I need like, I feel like I need a mirror to look at myself in the face
03:28:35.700
Um, I'll just do an eight in total, 10 body, six face, eight.
03:28:43.560
I think for my face, um, an eight body, I would say maybe like a four cause I'm just small.
03:29:01.380
Well, I think a lot of guys like petite women, so.
03:29:06.460
I'm Latina, so a lot of like the guys, you know, back at home, they prefer like.
03:29:12.680
When you say back at home, do you mean like Mexico?
03:29:32.320
The people I surround myself out there are usually Latinos too.
03:30:07.060
No, I definitely think people here are a lot more like they don't really care about the
03:30:21.100
But since I do go to UCSB, and like you said, when you were younger, you'd go out, like
03:30:32.280
Like everyone here is just like trying to do things, you know?
03:30:49.140
They don't care how you look, and they want to fuck, or they do care how you look, and
03:30:59.380
So, wouldn't it be better that they, if that's what they want, wouldn't it be better they don't
03:31:07.740
Because then you can, I don't know where I'm going with that.
03:31:10.260
No, because then they have a higher body count.
03:31:16.100
But they're still, they're still fucking no matter what.
03:31:17.540
But they're, they're equal opportunity dick slangers.
03:31:27.920
But if the, if that's what the girls are after, too.
03:31:34.640
I mean, if the girl's after it, then I mean, yeah, I guess it's better, but like.
03:31:45.580
That's actually a very astute observation, Madison.
03:31:50.360
Like, even just like interviewing, walking around, I see like.
03:32:02.960
Wait, Maddie, do you remember that first night we went out?
03:32:06.180
And like, this might come off as like kind of sus or whatever, but I was like, I was like,
03:32:18.360
There, there are a lot of good looking dudes with mid girls.
03:32:26.020
Cause like, I feel like with girls, they're like, well, if I'm gonna hook up, he better
03:32:34.520
But like for guys, it's like, I'm trying to get some pussy.
03:32:52.100
Four from, for the body, but eight for the face.
03:32:59.500
Six face, eight body, total seven, even though we can't pick seven.
03:33:41.740
Do you turn it around for them with the camera?
03:33:53.940
I, normally we don't read these, but Brian, God made, I, just because I read it, I thought
03:33:59.280
God made it where women don't need to get off to reproduce.
03:34:05.860
I just thought, I was below the threshold, but thought it was funny.
03:34:18.840
That, it's just a, it's just kind of an asshole comment, whatever.
03:34:23.860
So, going around the table, uh, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
03:34:42.360
If you, let's say you didn't get any of that, though.
03:34:45.440
Do you think you, uh, in 10 years' time, at, so you're 27.
03:34:54.440
Are you better looking now at 27 than you were at 18?
03:35:01.260
Um, and then, uh, I would actually argue, though, I'm not even sure, like, no, no, I
03:35:08.540
guess when it comes to you being 37, and you said, well, at 37, I could get, like, five
03:35:17.080
I'm not even sure, like, 37 you without plastic surgery versus 37 you with plastic surgery.
03:35:25.580
I think you'd be better looking at 37 without the plastic surgery than with it.
03:35:31.860
And this applies for any woman who has plastic surgery.
03:35:37.360
You've seen, like, Cher, who's, like, 70, and she has, like, the most insane amount of
03:35:41.740
plastic surgery, and she looks like not even a real human being.
03:35:46.860
I have not seen Cher recently, but I'll take, I'll take, oh, Donatella.
03:35:55.580
The only thing that I actually will concede on when it comes to plastic surgery, making
03:36:06.340
I've seen some of these, like, transformation videos.
03:36:08.880
It's actually quite astounding, like, the, what your nose does to your facial aesthetics.
03:36:14.380
But that's different, though, because a nose job can make your nose look like a normal nose,
03:36:21.800
whereas all these other procedures, like lip filler, you can tell.
03:36:39.160
You can also just get, like, better skincare treatments.
03:36:41.220
But assuming your skin, like, your skincare is just as good at 27 as it is at 37, you'd agree
03:36:49.340
that you are not going to be, not you, but, like, people in general are not going to be
03:36:54.660
as good looking due to aging in 10 years' time.
03:36:57.880
Um, no, because if you're, like, working out and, like, staying fit and maintaining a
03:37:01.260
healthy diet and lifestyle, you could be more beautiful.
03:37:04.820
What if you had that at your current age, though?
03:37:10.760
Well, let me ask you a question on the fitness thing.
03:37:13.700
I mean, I haven't really looked at you all that much, but it's, I mean, you seem like
03:37:21.040
you have a healthy body fat percentage, whatever.
03:37:23.120
I mean, do you think that there are such significant things you can do when it comes to your fitness
03:37:29.000
that you would be more attractive at 37 than you are now at 27?
03:37:34.060
Uh, maybe not super significantly, but I could just work out more.
03:37:40.140
Going around the table, better looking in 10 years' time?
03:37:42.720
Uh, if I manage to lose weight, I think I might have a shot at looking better.
03:37:56.780
And then were you, are you better looking now at 31 than you were at 21?
03:38:08.960
And then for you, 31, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
03:38:13.540
And then were you better looking at 21 as compared to now at 31?
03:38:19.800
My peak was 27, so it's closer to what I'm now.
03:38:42.000
Uh, Selena, you're 19, better looking in 10 years' time?
03:38:57.740
No, hopefully by that time I'm already, you know.
03:39:00.200
You're going to thick up a bit at 29, so all the Bakersfield methods are going on.
03:39:05.140
No, I just, well, I'm assuming at that time I probably already have like started a family.
03:39:16.140
Should we show the picture of young, young Jake?
03:39:23.100
Is it on your Instagram or, or do you have to like email it to us or something?
03:39:26.760
Uh, if you scroll down, uh, is it like the transformation one?
03:39:40.880
Also, guys, while you're at it, like the video.
03:39:47.440
We are doing a, uh, a sort of a, essentially a fundraiser for our good friend Mason who's
03:39:54.140
If you're just tuning in, he was in a very serious, uh, motorcycle accident a couple days
03:40:00.880
He's, uh, looking like he's recovering, but, uh, things are, uh, you know, I don't know
03:40:07.040
the full details, but he's still in the hospital.
03:40:09.000
In any case, six days later, six, seven days later.
03:40:11.400
So, uh, 50% of all fan funding from tonight's stream are going to go towards Mason's medical
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expenses, super chats, TTS, Twitch subs, um, stream labs, messages, 50% of all fan funding
03:40:25.720
will go to Mason's medical expenses, uh, read 100, TTS 200.
03:40:39.540
Oh, here, I'll read this while we're trying to find it.
03:41:36.280
Yeah, that was my 19th birthday on the left there.
03:41:50.300
Yeah, I think it's maybe a bit more than double.
03:42:07.540
Also, we're going to do the reverse transformation.
03:42:10.060
Pull up my Instagram and we'll see how much of a fat sack of shit I've become.
03:43:24.320
That was, look at this fucking alpha aesthetic.
03:43:35.860
Uh, click on the one where I'm putting on my wetsuit.
03:43:57.460
You just got to eat the protein salad in and out and then you're set.
03:44:22.480
Yeah, well, originally, so this is like a little prank video I did.
03:44:27.940
So it's like a fucking extra small for a woman.
03:44:34.900
It was going to be like this angel devil thing.
03:44:38.260
You know, like the whole, the, the trope of the angel devil on the shoulder thing.
03:44:50.400
I was a fucking menace in that karate dojo, bro.
03:45:11.600
If you're not following, just check and see if you're not.
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Like, can you help out with like a little prime survey?
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If you do have a prime sub available, 50% of the earnings revenue from the prime sub, it's
03:45:41.360
And primes, it's just, if you have an Amazon prime account, if you want to put as much as
03:45:45.560
you can, uh, towards Mason, it's just another way you can help out.
03:45:49.060
We're going to, uh, 50% of all fan funding from tonight's episode will go towards Mason.
03:46:01.280
And then we're going to get into these crazy pre-show notes from all the guests here.
03:46:14.420
Uh, last show, Brenna, the fucking liar, fake conservative chick.
03:46:18.880
We posted, uh, well, I posted this evidence of the tattoo matching to some D-Gen video that
03:46:26.240
And, uh, and then a bunch of, like, some other people in the community were, I guess, posting
03:46:30.300
links or something to off-platform to, you know, the, uh, fakery, the lying exposed.
03:46:36.940
So, Johnny Valentino, thank you for the gifted, uh, the gifted five subs there.
03:46:47.600
Okay, let's get into some of the pre-show notes here.
03:46:58.000
Uh, I think, I don't know if you said it on your, on the last show.
03:47:06.600
It was when the dude dropped me off on the highway.
03:47:11.300
I think it was like, didn't you say that your, your dad supports the, the point?
03:47:20.420
Like, he would obviously rather me do a different job.
03:47:24.820
I'm like, you know, we have a good relationship.
03:47:27.760
And then, is there something about like toy dolls or something?
03:47:59.220
And then you get the, damn, this one's all fucked up.
03:48:27.700
So that's the, you're holding a baby that's had like millions and millions of views.
03:48:56.160
Like, honestly, when I was growing up, I always had dolls.
03:49:01.440
But most of the time, now, I am very interested in like the reborn dolls.
03:49:06.660
I think the artists put a lot of work into them.
03:49:11.220
Like, it used to be a hobby of mine when I was like 16.
03:50:16.320
Like, is it one of those maid things where you like dress up?
03:50:19.660
No, like, uh, it was kind of like, uh, it was kind of like an au pair job when I lived
03:50:25.300
in Norway, but I recently moved back to New England.
03:50:58.640
On, let's see, you, I don't know if we fully had it, but the big thing you wanted to come
03:51:13.160
Do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
03:51:33.900
Do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
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And I think, I mean, you kind of already answered it.
03:52:06.240
I don't think it's insecure because I would care about someone else's body count because
03:52:30.280
I don't, I'm pretty sure, I feel like I said the same thing.
03:52:35.300
And then you asked me, like, bodies in porn versus in real life, and I still don't know.
03:52:41.960
You don't need to give us an exact number, but it's, like, over 50, over 100.
03:53:07.060
In personal life, probably, like, I don't know, like, I don't know.
03:53:33.640
Female count in porn is, like, less, probably, like, I think maybe, like, seven.
03:53:44.060
Because, like, I mostly do, like, stuff with guys for my job.
03:53:47.960
And then what's the, yeah, so what's the male count, then?
03:54:15.720
I don't want to give an exact number, only because I know people, I know, like, some of my friends
03:54:21.060
are going to watch this, but, um, definitely less than five.
03:54:49.440
Um, of course, y'all going to say that, but then make us answer and be all like, oh, what's
03:55:13.040
Have you ever answered on one of your podcasts?
03:55:18.900
But I feel like the viewers can, like, maybe figure out a minimum.
03:55:23.660
Who've been watching a long time, they can figure out a minimum based on, like, certain
03:55:34.740
Even from this conversation tonight, when I told y'all I've encountered certain types
03:55:40.040
of women, y'all can probably figure it out from there.
03:55:43.800
So you're just telling us you're a slut like that?
03:55:50.180
I, listen, I am not going to answer this question.
03:55:55.820
So, Glosky, body count, you had really strong opinions on it.
03:56:19.460
I think I said everything about it that I wanted to say.
03:56:22.340
I'm just kind of like, I have a lot to think about when I go home because this whole perspective
03:56:32.220
So, that it means so much to you and that you view it as this thing.
03:56:46.620
Don't you think people are pair bonded for the longest time and generally speaking around
03:56:50.940
the world, that's the norm is that people, for the most part, get married when they're
03:57:01.740
So, that's actually the norm, what we're saying.
03:57:09.900
Because I thought that Americans and Europeans were quite, like, the same.
03:57:16.060
Well, I mean, it just depends who you speak to, really.
03:57:19.300
But it's definitely an anomaly in the world how liberal Western culture is with sex.
03:57:24.540
It's very, very taboo and frowned upon in most other places in the world.
03:57:30.660
Any religious community, it's very frowned upon.
03:57:39.960
They're religious, but they just throw it around.
03:57:49.300
Wait, but you were starting to say, but we're people.
03:58:01.820
As in, I can speak English to you and understand what I'm saying.
03:58:05.360
Because it's kind of like, we can understand each other, but we've grown up so differently
03:58:11.100
that we have such different perspectives on something that's like, it's so different.
03:58:25.240
But I mean, like, just because we speak the same language, I mean, even in, I mean, for
03:58:34.420
Even in the Netherlands, there's more conservative politicians.
03:58:39.260
There's super liberal politicians, but they speak the same language.
03:58:42.400
So I'm just, I'm not, I'm a little confused by the, well, we speak the same language, thus
03:58:49.120
What I'm trying to say is we're just kind of, we're the same, we're vibing.
03:58:53.600
Most of us are, yeah, it's nice, and we get to meet each other.
03:58:56.640
So it's like, there's a lot of the same things, and we view the world in a lot of the same
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And I thought we were kind of grown up in the same ways.
03:59:06.060
And now it turns out that there's a few things that are completely opposite.
03:59:09.360
So this is just a completely alien perspective to you, that people should be more conservative
03:59:17.700
That's not something that was familiar to you at all, that people live that way?
03:59:23.380
Do you think that it's a positive thing when people pair bond and when people have families?
03:59:28.400
Pair bond, when people have families and they get together and they have long relationships
03:59:37.260
Yeah, I guess so, if that's what you want to do in life.
03:59:40.380
What do you think would happen if everyone stopped doing that?
03:59:43.840
We're kind of screwed, but also times change, so who knows if that will ever happen.
03:59:48.180
But if, just hypothetically, if that happened tomorrow and everyone stopped pair bonding
03:59:51.600
and everyone stopped being, and males and females stopped being attracted to each other
03:59:56.000
and just went away, or on the flip side, if everyone was just having sex and not being
04:00:01.320
in relationships, not having families, not having kids, what do you think would happen
04:00:05.200
Well, it shouldn't be the one extreme or the other extreme.
04:00:10.380
Within the hypothetical, what do you think would happen?
04:00:13.820
So then, with that in mind, and when you think about what makes a healthy society, which is
04:00:26.280
There's people who want to stay single and just...
04:00:30.880
This is more of a conversation about duties and about what makes a healthy society rather
04:00:47.560
Because I gave you my reason why we need family, because that makes a healthy society, healthy
04:00:57.980
Because we're human, and we've been doing this since the beginning of time, and it would
04:01:04.140
Do you think it would be bad if people got together young, and they pair bonded, and they
04:01:07.700
had kids and families, and they weren't sleeping around, and there were no STDs, and there
04:01:12.300
were no abortions, and there were no single mothers?
04:01:15.240
And criminals coming from single mother households, and people on welfare?
04:01:18.860
Do you think that it would be bad if those things were taken away?
04:01:22.320
I do think you need a healthy mix of the both of them to make things work.
04:01:26.740
Yeah, it's just funny, because you can't really give a reason why, though.
04:01:29.140
Because you're just saying, we need it because we need it, without much of a reason.
04:01:33.940
If everyone was the same, and wanted the same thing, that would not really be a good thing.
04:01:38.120
But, yeah, I think you're more talking about what we want.
04:01:41.460
So, people want to have lots of sex, and there are people that want to have lots of sex,
04:01:46.140
and I think most men out there want to have a lot of sex.
04:01:48.780
But what we want and what we need are two different things.
04:01:51.540
We need a stable society in order to move forward, in order to have future generations.
04:01:56.920
You also need people who think and act differently.
04:02:05.420
We need creative people, and we need more orderly people, more structured people.
04:02:09.580
That is a positive way that we can have diversity in the world.
04:02:13.660
But in terms of this, it's very easy to see the fruits of a society that is very promiscuous,
04:02:19.740
when they have very low birth rates, and when they have high rates of disease, and single mothers, and...
04:02:25.480
These are extremes, what you're saying right now.
04:02:30.900
You look at the African-American community, for example, 75% of kids are born out of wedlock,
04:02:39.200
And then if you look at the statistics of kids who go to single-mother households,
04:02:42.800
they're 20 times more likely to end up being criminals,
04:02:45.520
much more likely to end up being on drugs, because they don't have a father in the home.
04:02:54.940
I don't know how things are being planned here, but...
04:02:57.080
I think in Europe, I can say that this works pretty well for us.
04:03:03.480
If you want to say it, like, vulgarly is the promiscuous thing.
04:03:11.540
It's actually really nice, because it makes dating so much easier.
04:03:14.080
Everyone's more relaxed, open-minded, less drama.
04:03:18.060
There's a lot of cultural decadence in Europe, for sure.
04:03:20.860
You guys have a birth rate in countries like Holland that's falling off a cliff.
04:03:26.180
You guys are going to be replaced, because you're not pair-bonding over there.
04:03:34.860
Like, the native population of Holland in 100, 200 years will be replaced by Muslims.
04:03:47.000
Well, I can only speak for myself, and I don't...
04:03:54.320
So, if it happens because of certain things that we do, then it happens.
04:03:57.580
So, you'd be happy for Dutch people to just fade out of existence?
04:04:07.120
Well, it kind of contradicts a little bit what you said before.
04:04:10.400
Let me ask you a question related to what Jake is saying.
04:04:16.860
Japan is a country that's pretty well known for...
04:04:21.940
And they don't want a lot of immigration, I believe.
04:04:27.040
It's changing a little bit because their birth rates are so low.
04:04:32.760
But I guess my question for you is, would you think that there is anything wrong if Japanese
04:04:46.440
But do you think there's anything wrong with a country saying, hey, we want our country
04:04:53.580
Is it race or ethnicity or I don't know the specific terminology?
04:04:58.580
I can't actually think of any argument that in terms of objecting to Japan wishing to stay
04:05:25.480
Burmese Mountain Tiger, can you write a message in the Twitch chat?
04:05:34.820
Maybe you stepped away to, you know, do a line of cocaine.
04:05:42.460
I want to see if you're active in the chat or me, Mountain Tiger.
04:05:52.260
Jake, you can't force a love of nation onto a woman.
04:05:55.680
Women have a biological imperative to breed with stronger men.
04:06:01.280
She would enjoy being forced to wear the burqa.
04:06:05.760
I think that a lot of European men are weed cucks.
04:06:11.900
It's so wild because I think if you would ask Europeans,
04:06:18.620
I think there has to be some type of understanding,
04:06:22.960
I don't think we'll ever really understand each other.
04:06:23.980
I think that if you want to have a coherent worldview about that
04:06:28.180
and when you want to think about the bigger picture and what's best,
04:06:30.900
you have to be able to explain why you think what you think
04:06:34.040
and why it's okay and why it's okay to just go with what we want
04:06:37.880
and what we desire and what makes us feel nice all the time.
04:06:44.600
No, I think you just don't really know why you believe that.
04:07:03.700
when people were creating families and getting married young?
04:07:09.000
but there will also be single people that look for other single people.
04:07:17.540
I don't know how else to explain it than that there has to be a mix.
04:07:37.280
We got to that because I said that their birth rate is falling off a cliff
04:07:42.540
and they're actually going to get replaced in a few hundred years,
04:08:00.420
all of this cultural decadence that we're experiencing
04:08:13.940
The birth rates are literally falling off a cliff,
04:08:21.620
and they're pretty becoming depressed about it.
04:08:25.820
and I think throughout the Western world as well,
04:08:28.220
the amount of antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications
04:08:35.300
But that doesn't have to do anything with being a mess.
04:08:39.120
You can correlate women who are single and childless
04:09:15.340
Only 40% of men that have ever lived have reproduced.
04:09:35.780
Maybe I can't bring it across the way I want it,
04:10:36.260
Do you think that that's a positive thing, though,
04:11:31.160
Yeah, but I think it's kind of a subconscious thing
04:12:30.020
And if you guys don't have some white babies...
04:12:34.880
There are quite a lot of people in the Netherlands
04:12:48.340
which is happening in the Netherlands at the moment,
04:12:50.440
and they all breed at a much higher rate than you,
04:12:55.020
and the Netherlands has a birth rate of, like, 1.2,
04:13:00.380
is that you're eventually going to be replaced.
04:13:01.900
And the Dutch people aren't going to exist anymore.
04:13:05.500
It's going to be an offshoot of the Middle East.
04:13:11.300
There's a lot of countries who won't exist anymore
04:13:17.260
it's, like, one of the best countries in the world.
04:13:26.660
You guys build those dikes to keep the water out.
04:13:29.200
Like, you guys are one of the most productive farmers
04:13:54.920
And if that eventually leads to one country dying out,
04:13:58.120
I mean, it's going to happen eventually anyway.
04:14:36.280
A woman who would be happy if humans stopped existing.
04:14:39.740
Should we just go march into the gas chambers to speed it up?
04:14:55.980
And if it comes across like that, that's really bad.
04:14:57.880
He's being facetious, but he's making a good point, which is that...
04:15:10.860
We are devolving into animalistic desires because we harp on our rights and not duty.
04:15:19.620
Yeah, so Lol Paladins was actually making a good point, which was just to say that why
04:15:24.440
don't we just march ourselves into the gas chambers already?
04:15:27.380
I mean, you did say that you're a nihilist, but yeah, it's probably in accordance with
04:15:43.860
We all make the best of it, and some people want to have families, and they want to have
04:15:49.440
They just want to sleep with everyone, which is also fine.
04:15:51.720
I think we should respect both parties, and if eventually that leads to problems in a
04:15:59.100
Humans have always adjusted to any situation that's how we sit here right now.
04:16:14.480
If you tolerate everything, you stand for nothing.
04:16:21.420
Chat, something about like the intolerance of tolerance, or the tolerating...
04:16:29.700
It's not clear to me, though, if everyone's deserving of respect and certain conduct.
04:16:40.640
Hookup culture as in people just sleeping around?
04:16:50.220
Well, I don't even know if it's good for the teenagers.
04:16:52.780
There's a difference between should people be allowed to do something, and is it good?
04:17:01.360
I think everyone should make the decision for themselves.
04:17:05.400
I can't imagine the United States is ever going to, for example, criminalize having a casual sexual encounter.
04:17:10.920
But as a society, we can still say, this is undesirable conduct.
04:17:20.360
So you said, these people still deserve respect.
04:17:23.360
Because if we're not going to criminalize something, the only way that we can enforce, like, certain social values is through social shame.
04:17:37.640
If you're a person, whether male or female, and you go out and you sleep with 10 new people a month, I think that this is worthy of social shame.
04:17:47.520
So it comes from a point of keeping something safe.
04:18:04.780
So this idea that we need to respect people and their beliefs, I kind of disagree.
04:18:22.020
And it doesn't mean you need to necessarily insult somebody.
04:18:24.360
But this idea that we need to respect all beliefs, I think, is erroneous.
04:18:33.000
In instances where there's no conceivable way that a law can be passed to police people's conduct,
04:18:40.740
there needs to be social and societal and cultural shame that exists to prevent undesirable conduct in a society.
04:18:51.140
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense with where you're coming from.
04:18:54.780
It's very doable as well because we've done the reverse.
04:18:57.500
Since feminism has really come into the frame in Western society,
04:19:04.760
there's been a mass propaganda campaign to indoctrinate young women into this liberal way of thinking.
04:19:13.240
It just matters about what kind of propaganda is put out there.
04:19:24.420
Well, I mean, it's degenerate in the United States too.
04:19:29.060
I actually think the United States is more degenerate than...
04:19:37.440
I mean, I feel like in Europe, obviously, each country is different.
04:19:41.640
I actually think in Europe, promiscuity is not nearly as bad as it is in the United States.
04:19:50.280
But then you're taking into account Eastern Europe and places like Russia and Ukraine and Hungary and more traditional.
04:19:56.600
And then you're also taking into account Turkey, which is a bit more traditional as well.
04:19:59.940
But where they're from in Western Europe, it's like very, very degenerate.
04:20:06.420
I think it's a lot more, less black and white, a lot more nuanced, I think, because I am together with my boyfriend for four years and we're thinking about next steps.
04:20:18.520
And we have a lot of friends around us getting children and growing their families.
04:20:28.040
I know you're giving your own anecdotal experience.
04:20:32.000
I don't think Jake is certainly not saying all the women in these countries or all the people in these countries, they're all degenerate.
04:20:39.240
Obviously, there's people that conduct themselves in a different way.
04:20:42.700
But I mean, to Jake's point, even the Western European countries, I don't think they're as degen and as promiscuous as American women.
04:21:05.200
And then I'd say probably countries like Germany and Netherlands are pretty bad.
04:21:11.980
Like, you compare a German woman to an American woman?
04:21:15.940
The only reason I say that, though, is because America is still a very Christian country.
04:21:24.360
When you get to the cities, like at Los Angeles and New York and Miami and places like this, they're probably the most degenerate places in the world.
04:21:32.140
But America still has that Christian core, which I think is holding the ship up.
04:21:36.900
I feel like the lib agnostic atheist is the majority now in the United States.
04:21:45.560
Like, you look at your average German woman versus your average American woman, I'm pretty sure the average American woman is more promiscuous than the average German woman.
04:21:54.200
Dude, if you go to Berlin, honestly, it's terrible.
04:21:57.020
I feel like European women, and that's obviously very broad in general, seem to conduct themselves a bit more uprightly than their American counterparts.
04:22:14.020
They're probably slags or whatever they call them.
04:22:15.620
But, man, you go out for a night out in Liverpool or Manchester?
04:22:23.680
I'm pretty sure, like, continental European women...
04:22:39.660
That was some fucking fifth grade tweet, fucking Jaden Smith tweet shit.
04:22:48.820
But I think it's nice that people are free to experience...
04:22:53.540
You mean a slave to your base primal animal urges?
04:23:01.120
Well, there's less shame if you want to experiment or go to Bergenheim.
04:23:07.780
Just for those who don't know, the Berghain is this club in Berlin
04:23:12.740
where people go and you're not allowed to have your phones on you
04:23:16.360
or anything like that, and everyone's dressed up really freaky
04:23:18.700
and they're all having sex in the different rooms,
04:23:20.680
and there's a guy who's famous for getting his mouth peed in there.
04:23:26.640
He hangs out in the toilet and he puts his face under
04:23:33.520
But this is the logical conclusion of being free,
04:23:36.420
of people being able to explore whatever they want to do.
04:23:59.780
The reason depression and anxiety is high in the West
04:24:06.640
The West is committed to self-destructive hedonism and self-shame.
04:24:28.260
then you can have the commitment that you want.
04:24:33.320
Because if you go until your sort of late 20s, early 30s,
04:24:38.720
you're much less likely to pair bond when you're in your 30s.
04:24:41.960
And you're much less likely to have kids as well.
04:24:46.360
they're much more likely to have conditions as well.
04:24:51.900
So you can say that it's good and it might be fun.
04:25:17.080
Do you think that people actually want to be free?
04:25:24.240
And I think you were talking about shaming people
04:25:31.120
And personally, I think, of course, it matters.
04:25:34.460
I don't think I would date a guy that has a body count over 100 or 50.
04:25:38.600
But if other people don't have a problem with them,
04:25:46.640
Like, we have to look at ourselves and what we want.
04:25:53.660
And if she enjoys life and has a high body count
04:25:58.820
and doesn't see a problem, then why would we shame her for that?
04:26:01.520
Well, because we have to live in the same society as people.
04:26:11.720
But I think that people are also reasonably malleable
04:26:18.020
For example, in America, they've got this big thing
04:26:25.760
into this sexual ideology happening in schools in America.
04:26:31.820
Because if you believe in freedom over anything,
04:26:34.940
You can't really make a case for why that's wrong.
04:26:37.240
But if you believe in that that's something that should be...
04:26:51.900
you shouldn't mix children with certain things.
04:26:56.860
Well, there's many reasons why you shouldn't do that.
04:27:04.300
No, I'm not going to get deep into the philosophy with you.
04:27:29.300
that's fine, you can go read that book about oral sex,
04:27:39.380
some sort of shame and stigma attached to sexuality?
04:27:43.380
Some rules set in place, especially when it comes to children.
04:27:47.740
Do you think that maybe that's because we don't want the next generation of children
04:27:51.300
who are going to go out into the workforce and going to have families, etc.,
04:28:00.820
I just view it as people with different priorities, standpoints, lifestyles.
04:28:07.660
Do you think that it's bad to be a serial killer?
04:28:20.980
But don't you think that if you're one of these people
04:28:29.600
Because then it's about the parents and the child, right?
04:28:33.440
So what they decide to do is best, then they should follow that.
04:28:40.200
I don't know what they're doing, but reading a book to the child's work.
04:28:42.760
You could quantify it pretty easily and say that children shouldn't be exposed
04:28:45.760
to overly sexual material and that it does hurt children.
04:28:51.700
I mean, they do get such education here in America as well, right?
04:29:00.860
And it's happening on a pretty broad scale over here.
04:29:04.120
But I think to get to the meat and potatoes of it,
04:29:06.860
it's to say that some things should be shamed in society.
04:29:11.760
And what we're saying is that the line should be drawn way before
04:29:16.280
And what you're saying is that people should be able to be free
04:29:20.860
But what you're saying is that if I'm not hurting anybody else,
04:29:27.460
because you have to live in the same society as people.
04:29:29.720
and then my kids have to go to the same school as your kids
04:29:35.040
and then my kids have to watch these gay pride parades
04:29:38.360
with these naked men with their penises out dancing in front of them.
04:29:47.120
And perhaps you haven't thought about the logical conclusion of it
04:29:54.480
You know, perhaps you haven't thought about the logical conclusion of it,
04:29:56.880
but it does affect other people who you live in the society with.
04:30:52.700
and you let him tattoo your booty on the first date.
04:31:07.180
I think it was, like, seven years ago or something.
04:34:43.340
I understand that it's hard to leave a partner.
04:34:49.240
But I just don't understand this whole, like...
04:34:57.760
Like, I just don't really understand that whole thing.
04:35:31.840
You're saying you were essentially kidnapped, or...?
04:35:42.400
And he, like, did he hammer the door with wood,
04:36:16.300
Sometimes I'm a little confused by these stories, though,
04:36:36.400
I mean, doesn't this take away some accountability from you?
04:37:02.760
that there are situations that are more difficult to exit than others.
04:37:11.860
Like, I've heard stories of women where they're like,
04:37:24.720
But, like, the way you're painting it is, like,
04:37:36.420
It's not like physically you're not allowed to leave,
04:37:38.780
but you're not allowed to leave the relationship.
04:37:43.480
you're probably just going to say I can't answer it,
04:38:02.000
She'd be proud to have the Dutch men be replaced with Muslims.
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Anyways, look, I'm not going to try to dig too deep here,
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there's going to be some financial ramifications
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Were, were you previously living with your parents?
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You opted to move out of your parents' house at 17.
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But I don't really want to talk about this situation.
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I'm not going to talk about that other part, but.
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where they put you together with a random guy in the house.
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You said that you broke up with your high school boyfriend
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because he said you were playing too much World of Warcraft?
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Well, I mean, that would be the only way you could.
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but now I realize I should have gone to the police instead.
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You had sex so that you could get like a rank in World of Warcraft.
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It was something really stupid, but I felt amazing.
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You said you also have strong feelings about marriage,
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so I assume you're like not in favor of marriage.
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You're on OnlyFans 2, and I want to stick up for them.
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What do you think about the OnlyFans girls who have typers and chatters?
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They either get an AI software to talk to the fans
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So you're not actually talking to the real person.
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What is, so, I mean, two separate things there.
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When you say you're a combination of feminist and traditional,
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Um, I think some feminists go really far in the whole equal,
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uh, being equal, like having exactly the same role.
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But I do think that feminists is about respecting each other
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and feeling that people are, uh, worth the same.
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And I believe that women should not have to be questioned
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even though a man walks in and that's all right.
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So, I, I, I just think people should be more together.
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That's how I thought the definition from feminist is,
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to, to, uh, believe that one is not above the other.
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because biological men and women are different.
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pursuit of equality with a rejection of patriarchy.
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I mean, look, there's different definitions of feminism.
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I mean, my definition of feminism is it's a, uh...
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That's why I said combined with the traditionality.
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Yeah, I feel like it depends on what your definition of feminist is.
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but I don't think we should destroy the patriarchy.
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I don't really have an opinion about this topic, honestly.
05:47:11.980
Chad advertises criminal record for beating a woman,
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I'm pretty sure the guy in the whatever hoodie is a guy also.
05:47:51.120
Usually the whatever podcast has the biggest tatars in seat number one
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It's because you said you were a part of the itty bitty titty committee.
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I think he was saying that you have bigger tits than I do.
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But I, like, I have the back of short, short men.
05:48:31.500
Some guy underscore you will underscore chair one donated $20.01.
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Also, Britson, I might really fall on fapping to your fat swinging mommy milkers.
05:49:23.720
That Mexican girl in the middle has an open deportation warrant, and I've been looking for her for a few weeks.
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My country exists, and thank you for your service.
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Blonde underscore chick underscore 88 donated $20.
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Host acts more like an emotional woman than I do.
05:50:15.060
My toxic Latina goes like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and comes back like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like.
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Like, middle girl, like, like, like, like, like.
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Literally said like, like, three times like in a row for real like.
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Where I can like explore some of the other crazy shit
05:52:57.280
I got asked about this criminal record of yours
05:53:41.260
Some person just took a picture and made a fake profile
05:54:24.840
My girlfriend told me that I have what's called a boyfriend dick
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So me and my girlfriend were laying in bed and talking about sex
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Which is something I don't usually like to bring up
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She said that it's the perfect size for a long term relationship
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I was taken back by this comment and left the room
05:55:08.420
She said bigger dicks need time to recover from
05:56:12.120
Girl on the right is only less attractive than the chick next to Brian
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People who are intolerant of other people's cultures
05:56:40.620
Some guy underscore you will underscore chair one donated $20 and one cent
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Essentially, he's interviewing these girls, and they claim to be, the two girls claim
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to be virgins, and he kind of questions that they're virgins because they're out kind of
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And then also based off the way they dressed, Jake, do you think they were telling the truth?
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There was no chance in God's green earth they were virgins.
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And then the other thing was, I think the other component here is, I'm pretty sure the girl
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And I'm like, has a girl, like, maybe it's possible, but like...
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No, the way they said it at the start, when she was like, I'm a virgin, and the other one
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It was like her eye contact and her body language, which made me not believe it, but their outfits
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Like long maxi skirts, they're like tight, but it wasn't anything too revealing.
06:01:18.960
Well, the one on the left was a bit more modest than the one on the right.
06:01:21.740
But like, in the history of humanity, has there ever been a woman who's a virgin who has nipple
06:01:31.340
And also probably mid to late 20s, tatted up, revealing clothes in Miami at the club.
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Maybe not for you, but to the rest of the world.
06:02:06.080
I'll have to, something must have got messed up before the stream.
06:02:13.520
We'll let the rest of the roast come through, then we're going to wrap up the show.
06:03:19.920
Would you rather have democracy or access to abortions?
06:03:25.520
Would you rather have democracy or access to abortions?
06:03:31.720
So you want to be able to vote or have abortions?
06:03:37.620
Probably to vote because then you could vote for abortions.
06:03:40.300
No, but so in the democracy you would not be allowed to have.
06:03:47.400
Let's say, let's say in the democracy there's no abortion.
06:03:54.880
Yeah, you get to vote on policies and the president.
06:04:13.880
That is a hard question, but I would say democracy.
06:04:21.320
No, I don't really like either of them, but democracy.
06:04:31.340
I've never heard it put that way, but all right.
06:04:49.320
Some guy underscore you woo underscore chair one donated $20 and one cent.
06:05:01.220
I'd hit it from behind, but you need to hold the boys up so our speed bags don't bounce
06:05:15.840
We've seen Brian live stream from Isla Vista streets.
06:05:19.560
You have women literally walking around outdoors in lingerie.
06:05:37.800
How should I address this without it coming off rude or judgy?
06:05:47.640
How should I address this without it coming off rude or judgy?
06:05:51.740
I don't know how you could be rude or judgy by telling someone to stop having sex with
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If they don't accept that, then do they have no respect for you and get out of there ASAP?
06:06:04.980
Instead of trying to navigate what should I do, what should I not do when it comes to this
06:06:15.860
You said you like a single mom, hanging out for a few weeks.
06:06:32.720
And if you really like her, then ask her to be exclusive.
06:06:41.180
She said she had a few friends with benefits in recent months.
06:06:52.160
Treat her children like they'd be treated in a lion pride.
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Because doesn't like the male lion, if he enters like another tribe or wait, fuck.
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We should just get a bunch of fucking lions here at the table and they just can fucking
06:07:33.540
April Fool's will put bears at the table and they can.
06:07:47.180
That'd be cool to just bring in some, some cats.
06:07:53.120
Oh, can you scoot your mic to the very edge of the table, please?
06:07:57.800
So just somebody else point that out next time.
06:08:08.040
A man saying I love you too early is the same as a woman saying I want to get married.
06:08:18.080
Thank you, everybody else who sent in some messages.
06:08:25.060
By the way, if you want TTS, you got to do it through Streamlabs.
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I'm going to change the Streamlabs voice to Dutch.
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Yes, that is exactly how that happens, you uneducated kids.
06:08:40.220
A new male lion kills off every other cub from the previous male.
06:08:44.640
Jokes are funnier when you have to explain them.
06:08:53.880
Okay, I changed the – it's now in Dutch, so we have two Dutch women here.
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If you want to send in a TTS in, like, the Dutch accent, whatever, go do it.
06:09:08.300
What else do we – let me do the outro stuff really quick.
06:09:14.920
Last call on the – if you want to put in a roast.
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Is there – are you sure there's no other reacts?
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I don't even – I don't even – I just want to support Mason.
06:10:13.860
Jake will be supporting his – oh, my – oh, my – oh, my – oh, my God.
06:10:20.580
She did not have dating prospects before he came along.
06:10:24.020
And so she slept with guys because she thought it was how she could get.
06:10:27.900
As far as he knows, she has met some them since we're talking.
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One more – one more, and I'll switch it to a Mexican.
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Black High Red, Dutch woman calling things toxic.
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She's literally the definition of a toxic human being.
06:10:54.460
Almost all women find it hard to choose freedom or de lesion of their baby.
06:11:07.820
She's literally the definition of a toxic human being.
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I mean, it's like I said, we're like opposites, right?
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Drop us a follow in the Prime sub, twitch.tv slash whatever.
06:12:04.680
If you can, before you exit, maybe you guys can check if you have a Prime sub available.
06:12:09.960
Because like I said, we are giving 50% of all earnings from Super Chats, TTS, Twitch subs, Prime subs.
06:12:19.840
We're going to be donating that to Mason from tonight's stream.
06:12:30.580
Even if you watch on YouTube, if you've got a Twitch account, just drop us a follow on Twitch.
06:12:39.540
If you have a Prime sub available, we'd very much appreciate it.
06:12:44.460
And also our Discord, discord.gg slash whatever.
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We post a lot of BTS stuff on there most recently.
06:13:03.520
She accused us of like kidnapping her or something.
06:13:06.960
Even though we were like, can you please leave?
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And she's like, oh my God, they're holding me here against my will.
06:13:14.960
She got kicked off the show and we're like, yo, get the fuck out.
06:13:20.580
Also, the crazy, fake, conservative Christian OF girl from Sunday show.
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We posted to the, we posted Discord this photo showing proof that she was lying about everything that she was talking about.
06:13:34.580
Some other people were like posting evidence in like some of the, one of the other channels in our Discord.
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If you want, you can get a last minute roast in and then any TTS, the Super Chats.
06:13:52.360
Just want to do one final reminder about this fundraiser that we're helping out Mason with.
06:13:57.640
Can you pull up the Instagram post just so people who don't know?
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If you saw in the bottom, the corner over here, Mason Medical Expenses, he was in a very serious motorcycle accident.
06:14:13.460
So a couple days ago, it was a life-threatening motorcycle accident.
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We're going to, you know, help out as best as we can.
06:14:46.960
So guys, if, if you can't support, just, you know, do a little prayer for, for Mason or something.
06:14:54.120
But there's this page after we get off the stream, if you want to support, you can go there.
06:15:04.980
And all, and yeah, if you can pull that up really quick.
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So yeah, 50% of all the fan funding from tonight.
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Uh, that's all the super chats, TTS, memberships, Twitch subs.
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We're going to, uh, send to, uh, to that thing for, to, to Mason for hopefully to help out with medical expenses and stuff.
06:15:22.640
So, uh, wishing Mason Godspeed and his recovery.
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Uh, had, had many good, uh, dinners after the show with him at, at In-N-Out getting fat.
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But, um, but anyways, if you guys can support, um, we'll, we'll be sending that over, uh, everything from the show.
06:15:48.640
So, but, uh, if you're catching this after we've finished the live or whatever, you can feel free to just go straight to him.
06:15:58.960
So, um, appreciate all your guys' support tonight.
06:16:01.420
I'm going to let the rest come through and then we're going to wrap.
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If anyone's building a house and they run out of dos by cuatro, then they could light rally.
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You all suck except Maddie and the stunning one next to her.
06:17:00.960
She may play a rogue, but aside from that is exactly the opposite of toxic.
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The kids will laugh and resent you because you are not their dad and he will most likely interfere.
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Why don't you pull the Twitch up really so I just can thank them super quick for everybody
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Uh, the Primes, the Twitch Primes are also gonna, uh, we'll, we'll do the, uh, proportionate
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Lars, thank you for, Lars, thank you for the Prime.
06:18:15.420
Okay, uh, I think we're gonna, we'll wrap there.
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I changed it to, uh, Gregory if anybody wants to send in the final seat.
06:18:23.160
Well, if more come in, but you can send in, uh, so okay, GG.
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All nurses are crazy, and I swear they all have the smallest labias.
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Those two are as much as a virgin, as much as Desiree is quite.
06:19:17.920
Uh, so, thank you everybody for tuning in tonight.
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You can then anyone in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who so generously, uh, super chats, donates, and supports the show.
06:19:34.860
And, um, thank you guys also for supporting and just kind of helping out with this whole,
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We might be doing some more IRL stuff, so, uh, we might be live sooner than Sunday, but
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I'm pretty sure we got Andrew in studio, 5 p.m. Pacific.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out, whatever.
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On Instagram, if you can make it to Santa Barbara, 07's in the chat, we're going to do
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VTW, chair one, you're pretty and have a good attitude.
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She was going to leave an hour ago, but she's a fucking trooper.
06:20:57.020
So, guys, thank you all for watching on Twitch.
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Right before we do the raid, check if you can follow.
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But he's playing World of Warcraft Classic Era.
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I'm going to send that out in 10 seconds here, guys.
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L to the blank star who couldn't go to the distance.
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It's probably like super early in the morning over there.
06:22:17.220
Thank you, guys, again, for watching on Twitch.
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No, but it was the first character that I could pick.
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He's like, yeah, that's where his computer setup is.
06:23:24.980
Wait, let me, I'm really curious to see really quick.
06:23:54.280
That was a six-hour and 20-minute stream three months ago when Rachel Wilson is in studio.
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This is going to be our shortest stream in three months.
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We'll see you on Sunday with our next dating talk.