Brian KICKS OUT Brat？! 2 RAGE QUITS？! Toxic LA E-GIRLS Bankrupt Men (FlNDØM)？! ｜ Dating Talk #195
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Summary
In this episode, we talk to Kylie, an 18-year-old TikTok user from Arizona, about her experience with online dating and how she deals with men who are willing to pay to be on the phone with her.
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the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go
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ahead. Okay. My name is Kylie. I'm 18 years old. I'm from Arizona and I do FINDOM and TikTok.
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And you said 19, right? 18. Oh, excuse me. And you do FINDOM. Yes. Okay. What's that for the people who
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don't know? It stands for financial domination and it is basically where guys get off to sending
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money to a girl with nothing in return. Okay. So what's, uh, what are some examples though?
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Cause you'll do specific things, right? So like what's an example or two or three? I've had guys
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that will pay to FaceTime me and they just want to be ignored. Like they just want to sit there on the
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call while I'm like doing my makeup or like talking to my friends. And whenever they talk,
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I'll just be like, shut the fuck up. And then that's like, they like it. Yeah. You ever give
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them like disappointing, disappointed looks? Yeah. Like you're like, I'll just look at them like
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they're, they're a piece of shit. Yo, Metro, thank you for the, uh, memberships. Uh, okay.
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What's some other stuff? About FINDOM? Yeah. That you might do. Um, I have done two meetups
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and they basically just paid to take me shopping in person. Okay. And I did stomp on one guy's
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balls before. That was fun. What? Nice. Okay. Um, how much do you, did he pay for that?
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This was my first ever meetup. So it was only like three grand, only three grand, only three grand.
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Okay. Uh, so how many, uh, how many different, uh, people have procured your services?
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Different kinds of people. No. How many people? Like I have no idea. Like hundreds. Yeah.
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Hundreds. Thousands. Thousands. No idea. Okay. All right. And then what do you do on TikTok?
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Um, I just, I go live on there and I have multiple accounts. Like one of them, I'll just post like
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my makeup or skincare and then I'll link the product in the video and I'll make commission
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off of everyone that buys it. Okay. Well, we'll, we'll, we'll get into. Kylie. Um, so, so that
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we're clear, Kylie, I was just wondering when you say thousands, you said that, that are you
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talking about thousands for the FINDOM service? Yes. Okay. So, so thousands of men will pay you
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to do things like that to them? Yes. Okay. Wait, not the money. Well, they, maybe that's
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how much, but thousands of men have paid you for this. To kick them in the balls? No, no.
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Just the FINDOM. Oh, yes. Whether like they sent you 20 or they sent you thousands. Yes.
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Thousands of men. Yes. Got it. What about you? My name is Penny. Um, I'm 18 years old and
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I'm from Arizona and I also do FINDOM too. Also do FINDOM. Yes. Okay. Um, how many clients
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I suppose you could have, have you had? I have, I just started to like 10, 20, but I've gained
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about 3,000 followers. Okay. Just on Twitter. On Twitter. Okay. Um, wait, so, and did Kylie
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here get you into it? Yes. Yeah. She intro'd you? Yes. She's the pro? Yes. Okay. Uh, what
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are some things that you've done when it comes to the FINDOM? Well, me, I haven't gone out
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and met any of them, but oh yeah, with her, we did. He took us shopping and I usually just
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do voice messages, bullying them, calling them worthless. Like it's like, send me money
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now. I'm getting my nails done or something. And do you, uh, is this like a strictly money
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sort of thing for you or do you actually like enjoy it too? Um, doing it now, I kind of,
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it's funny to me. It's funny. It's funny. Okay. And, uh, is it, is it what gets you out
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of bed in the morning? No, I just sit there. Just looking forward to stomping on a dude's
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balls. Yeah. Um, okay. All right. Uh, we'll get into all that stuff. Uh, and did you, sorry,
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did you say where you're from? I might've missed that. Arizona. Arizona. I got it. Okay.
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Also, uh, just, just, uh, just to make sure you said your name is Penny. Yes. Okay. Like
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money pennies. Yes. Okay. All right. And, uh, okay. What about you? Uh, hi guys. My name
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is Gia. I'm 21 years old. I was born and raised in California and I do a live stream. Um, I live,
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yeah, I basically, I go live on this platform called Chad Herpate and I do OF too. So yeah,
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that's what I do. All right. What's the nature of, uh, the stuff you do on OF? Is it, uh, BG
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content? Uh, it's explicit content. So you shoot content with men? Yes. Okay. Gotcha. Uh,
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how long you've been doing that for? About like six to eight months. Yeah. Six to eight months.
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Uh, all right. Got it. Uh, school for any of you? Are you guys in school at all or
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school? No, not. CC, community college, anything like that? I'm, yeah, I'm going to start college
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really soon. Okay. What do you want to study? Uh, psychology. All right. Yeah. What about
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you? My name is Jaren. I'm from San Francisco and I'm 24 years old and I am a recent graduate.
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All right. Uh, undergrad, uh, masters, masters. Okay. Uh, what fields? Customer experience.
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That was, was that the major or? Yes. Customer experience. I've never heard that. It's like
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a mix of like hospitality kind of, or? No, it's like UX design, sales, marketing,
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like a whole bunch of entrepreneurship projects. It's like all in one. But that's what the major
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is called customer experience. And that you said that's what your master's is in. What
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was your undergrad in? My undergrad was in international business. Got it. Okay. What
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about you? My name is Alina. I am, I would like to refrain from my age. I'll, I'll get into
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that. But, uh, where are you from? I'm originally from Moldova, but I live in LA. Okay. And occupation?
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Oh, model and actress. Model and actress. Okay. Uh, and just, so why, why, uh, do you not
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want to share age? I think it shouldn't matter what age I am. Um, because at the
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end of the day, it's like my choice and, um, doing modeling and acting, sometimes they
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get judged if you're older than the age you portray. So you usually have to say your age
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range. So I can tell you my age range. What's your age range? 25 to 35. Okay. Well, so I
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have a bit of a, uh, objection on this. So you said that when it comes to acting and
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modeling, you know, you're going to get judged for your age, but I mean, the most famous and
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highly paid models and actresses, their exact birth dates are publicly out there. Because
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they're famous. But so I'm a little confused here. So, you know, Victoria's Secret models,
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famous actresses, we know their, their age. This doesn't prevent them from getting work.
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Because they're already famous. Usually in the beginning, they're kind of, they, you want
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always to be portrayed a certain way. And I think it's still, it's still happening.
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But so if your actual age prevented you from getting work, why is it that the most highly
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paid women in the industry, everybody knows their age?
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Not all of them. Um, I know there are some that they'll still have a younger age on their
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Wikipedia page than their real age. So not all of them.
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Uh, I mean, but you, and then also another point of confusion here. So I'm assuming these acting and
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casting gigs, they're going to get like a W9, right?
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But that's after they hire you. It doesn't really matter because it goes straight to the payroll
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company. So they don't really check your age. Usually in the casting process, if they tell
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you like, oh, I want this actress to look 25 and she looks 25, but she's 45, they'll be
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like, you know, she's like, oh, she's too old because they know their age.
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Oh, and there is an IMDb lawsuit for, uh, for showing someone's age because they couldn't
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Well, I mean, look, I'll, I'll tell you what I, uh, I told you before the show.
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Obviously, obviously we can't force you to, uh, reveal your age, but it does tend to turn the
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audience against you if you refuse such a arbitrary, uh, question. So I suppose proceed
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at your own risk, but, um, so still, uh, I'm proceeding.
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My name is Oksana. Uh, I'm from Sacramento, California and, uh, 46 years old and I am a
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matchmaker and what gets me off is seeing two people in a happy relationship.
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Well, we're talking about what gets them off. So here you go.
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Well, it doesn't get them off. It gets them money.
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Well, for me, it is absolute happiness to see two people united together in absolute harmony
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and love and working together and creating ideal union.
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All right. Uh, how long you've been doing the matchmaking for?
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Okay. Got it. Very cool. All right. Uh, what about you?
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My name is Laura. I am 37 years old. I am also a professional matchmaker and I'm also
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Hi, my name is Saya. I'm from Kazakhstan. I live in LA. I am engineer, QA engineer.
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I'm sorry, too. Uh, I didn't, what did, what did, what did you say the name was?
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Okay. All right. Cool. Uh, can you show me a photo idea later?
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Hi, my name is Elnora, and I am 36 years old, but I'm looks like 29, I think, hopefully.
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And I am full-time YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram influencer blogger.
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Yeah. And I have 400,000, uh, subscribers overall. Yeah.
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Uh, so I interview people, uh, most of them, uh, entrepreneurs, uh, businessmen.
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Uh, it's, uh, more about immigrants who, uh, came here and started from zero.
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Okay. Uh, my name is Brian Atlas. I'm 35 years old, over the hill, has-been YouTuber, uh, from Santa Barbara.
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Andrew Wilson, what about, uh, what about you, sir?
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Yeah. My name is Andrew Wilson. I'm the host of The Crucible, 40 years old.
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I am a, um, political analyst, a political satirist. Occasionally, I like to engage in debates and conversations.
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All right. Welcome, everybody. So we're going to go around the table once more.
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Uh, gloctavious donated $200. My sprinkler goes like this.
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Good. Uh, gloctavious. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. That was, that was a good one. Um, thank you,man.
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Uh, so current relationship status. Are you single talking stage situationship,
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Friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be.
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If you're single, how long have you been single?
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And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
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Longest relationship was like a year and a half.
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You've been in a talking stage for a year, a month and a half?
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So from the point of the breakup, is this the only guy you've been involved with?
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I had one other boyfriend before him when I was like 16.
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Um, we've known each other for a while, but we haven't like started talking, talking to
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Uh, you guys both live in the same city or is this long distance?
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Oh, single for about like three, yeah, three months.
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Uh, your most recent relationship, how long was that one?
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Or like, no, it was actually like a year, a year, actually.
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That, the length of that relationship increased pretty dramatically from a month to a year
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I was like, I was thinking, I was remembering like other talking, like talking stages.
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So, uh, single for three months, you do, uh, do you do traditional adult?
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So like, not just for, not just like OF content, but you'll do like content for, for like the
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Um, the men that you were in a relationship with, did you shoot content with them?
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I've been single for seven years now and my longest relationship was for a year and
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Uh, in that seven year period, have you seen anybody in any capacity?
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A couple of talking stages, but nothing serious.
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What's the longest period during the seven years?
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You were seeing somebody for a year, but you've been single for seven years.
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How, how, uh, how much of the year were you guys monogamous?
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Wait, nine months of the relationship you were monogamous, excuse me.
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And then before then it was like open to dating other people.
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And then who initiated the conversation about making things monogamous?
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And during that conversation, did he say, like, the title or anything?
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No, he just wanted me and him to talk to just each other.
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But as recently as a year ago, you were exclusive with a guy for nine months,
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I'm sorry, but how is this not de facto your boyfriend?
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Like a something by any other name is, I don't know how it goes.
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If a guy were to come up to you while you were in your monogamous phase with this guy,
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and he was like, hey, I'd like to take you out on a date, would you say that, yes, I'm single,
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I would say, no, I'm talking to somebody right now.
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And you, when did this seven-year relationship end?
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Or sorry, I'm sorry, not one-year relationship.
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Wait, the 2017 one or the one we just talked about?
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So, when did that one, the one-year thing, when did that end?
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You're talking about the one-year one back in high school?
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I'm talking about the more recent one, I guess.
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Wait, you talked about having carnal knowledge?
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But he didn't know at first, and then I told him.
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He didn't know I was abstinent, but I told him.
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How, wait, how soon into the, when did you tell him?
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And so you're waiting until marriage then, I'm assuming?
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It's for professional, professional people, I guess.
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I've been married five years and we broke up in 2021.
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But I think if I meet someone and I feel him and, like, you know, maybe, yeah, maybe we will start something.
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Are you currently in communication with a man who you are romantically interested in?
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That's everybody's current relationship status.
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I want, I will, I do want to get into the Findom stuff.
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I think that one thing I wanted to talk about, and maybe if nobody knows about it, we won't
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Anybody know what's going on with this bachelorette thing?
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Then if not enough people on the panel know, then I'm not, I won't get into it.
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This is totally not dating related, but humor, humor me for like 30 seconds.
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I saw this really crazy thing that, that tripped me out and the chat, the viewers, you can try
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Not dating related at all, but I want everybody at the table to try it.
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So, so can you circle of one of your, one of your fingers forward and one of your fingers
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Like your brain can't do it, except I can do it because I figured it out.
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No, you're doing, I think you're doing the same way.
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Not at all dating related, but thought we should bring that up.
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So let's get into the Findom stuff quickly here.
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What's the go-to, like, in and out number one request?
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Maybe like pictures of me holding up the loser sign or like my middle finger.
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At most, I will send like a picture of my, my feet if they pay for my pedicure.
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A lot of these guys are also in relationships as they're sending me money.
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So like, I would not want to date them and then find out that they're sending other girls
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Wait, how, how, they tell you that they're in relationships?
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Why wouldn't they just have their girlfriends do it?
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Their girlfriend's probably normal and not mean to them, but they secretly want a girl
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that's mean to them, but they don't want to like tell their girlfriend that.
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What percentage of men do you think are into the Fintom stuff?
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I've had some like really successful guys do this on the low.
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One of the first guys I met up with, he was a D1 college football player for Seattle.
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He can get girls, but he still wanted me to stomp on his balls.
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Wait, but so, I mean, isn't, is that different than Fintom though?
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I mean, isn't that like, that's masochism, right?
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But I thought Fintom was like, it was, they're part of, because like a guy could pay you for
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But like Fintom, the kink is specifically to do with the money.
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He kind of, it's like, it's hard to kind of explain, but they want you to siphon off their
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So he had the Fintom too, or he just wanted to be donged.
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So, I don't know, I guess he like gets off to wearing makeup and like dressing in like
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I also did that for him, but I can't, I couldn't post it because he didn't want his face shown.
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Um, there was this really like tight dress that, it was like this pink tight dress that
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I honestly don't even understand what half of this stuff is.
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Andrew, we need you to help secure the future of the nation before any of these geniuses
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Appreciate, appreciate the support to whatever.
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Uh, how much, how much does a ball stepping cost?
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So it was like, it was like three grand for me to do his makeup and stomp on his balls.
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Um, he spent three grand, like just at the mall taking a shopping and then another two
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He spent three grand on like clothes or some shit.
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And then he just, here's two, two K and for each of you or to get total?
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Um, she just kind of tagged along with me and just.
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How is it possible that you have thousands of customers when you only started in March?
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I was, when wish tender was the payment method that all of the fin doms use, there's like
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So like you're, you're dealing with like multiple.
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I mean, well, you would be averaging eight clients a day, right?
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Well, you wouldn't meet up with all of them, right?
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So her clients are just like over the internet.
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I just wake up to like 10 people sending me coffee.
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Now are you, are you personally responding to these men or do you have somebody that assists
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What's, uh, and do you have like sugar daddies too?
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Are most of these people from the United States, do you think?
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So there's thousands, thousands of men with a Femdom kink and they happen to, and you're
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dealing with like up to averaging maybe eight, nine, 10 of these guys a day.
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And it's all for the purposes of Femdom, not for anything else?
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So they're not DMing you and just being like, hey, what's up?
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They're DMing you for an actual service of some kind.
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No, a lot of them just get off to sending the money and leaving.
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Like they'll send money and never DM me or talk to me.
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So, so they're supporters, but so when we're asking this question, we're talking about an
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actual, the actual service itself, like the thing that you do, whether it's, you know,
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sending a message, then ignoring them, something like that.
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Um, it's pretty common for creators to just have supporters send them things, right?
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Whether they're in your industry or another industry.
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So how many, how many men would you say you actually render a service for?
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Like you're speaking to them or you do something with them or to them or whatever.
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I mean, like five a day, I'll send like voice messages or like videos of what I'm doing.
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Have you gone on dates with guys and they pay you for the dates?
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I mean, like I've gone on a date with a guy and he paid for the day, but he didn't pay
00:40:20.100
Now that's, um, by my math here, if you're averaging what, five a day, it's, uh, 1,825 men per year.
00:40:28.640
That you actually are speaking with or doing something with?
00:40:33.640
And so, uh, what's the most that you've ever received from a guy?
00:40:49.440
He gave me seven grand in cash and then bought me and my friend Prada bags.
00:41:11.960
What's like the most, cause I'm sure there's guys who send you.
00:41:15.280
What's the most total that you've received from one guy?
00:41:26.140
Well, he started off with like hundreds and then he went to a thousand and then 2000.
00:41:35.780
What about like, but did he send you that much again, like a different day?
00:41:40.120
No, he just like dropped that off and then I never spoke to him again.
00:41:49.080
Even though it was just like the one day, it was the most total.
00:41:51.380
Cause there's maybe been guys that you've talked to that they were sending you money
00:41:56.740
for six months, but they'd send you like a hundred bucks a year, a hundred bucks a day.
00:42:02.880
And what do you think the total amount you've made from this is?
00:42:06.120
Um, I made six figures my first three months doing it.
00:42:11.700
So like that's a hundred thousand all the way up to 900, 99,000.
00:42:25.640
So you've made, you think it's about the same, the most recent three months.
00:42:29.920
So you've made about 200,000, uh, in six months.
00:42:38.000
So you're looking at maybe 400,000 for the year, maybe.
00:42:45.200
Um, so, uh, I'm kind of curious though, how it actually looks.
00:42:50.420
So, um, I want you to pretend that Anissa back here is a, is a pay pig, a simp, a, uh,
00:43:00.820
And I want you to talk to, to Anissa back here, how you would talk to one of these guys.
00:43:19.560
You may not know this, but the only way to make Brian suffer is if he has to hear you talk
00:43:27.080
And since you're a femdom and you want to make him, you have the maximum amount of suffering,
00:44:31.000
If there's any women out there who want to be fin-domed, I will do it.
00:44:47.100
So the type of guys that she's dealing with, they are trying to avoid intimacy, being hurt
00:44:54.760
really, really badly throughout their childhood.
00:44:58.540
So for them, it is pushing the intimacy away and trying to compensate it financially.
00:45:04.060
And usually men who are higher level financially and were accomplished, they would be avoidant.
00:45:11.780
Now with women, why women wouldn't be paying for something like this?
00:45:15.560
About 75% of women, they have anxious attachment.
00:45:20.340
They need to be fulfilled and have feelings and emotions.
00:45:31.140
Fake plastic trees, apparently not familiar with Radiohead.
00:45:36.500
But sans hyperbole, we need brain power comparable to yours, or Idiocracy will be a non-fiction
00:45:46.140
I'm more of a Soundgarden guy, to be honest, but Pearl Jam.
00:45:59.660
Anyways, thank you, Plastic Trees, appreciate it, man.
00:46:07.300
Could it also just be that it's kind of not really within the purview of their sort of
00:46:15.700
I mean, I know it's not natural to this degree, but men are naturally providers, and
00:46:22.320
like the idea of a woman, like financially giving money to a man is like kind of disgusting to
00:46:31.320
But like for a guy, there is some inclination to give women money from a provider, mind
00:46:39.060
There is a difference between being a provider and wanting to...
00:46:44.880
I actually feel really, really sorry for these guys that are customers.
00:46:54.920
Is it something that he would be looking, something to be done like this to him?
00:47:00.300
I mean, he's a provider for his family, but he has a connection with his wife.
00:47:07.940
So, I mean, it has nothing to do with being a provider.
00:47:17.520
I mean, that's not really what I'm trying to say here.
00:47:19.160
I'm just trying to say perhaps the reason it's more common.
00:47:22.260
One of the reasons it's more common among men, because I think men tend to lean towards
00:47:31.400
How many men, after they provided for her, still stuck around?
00:47:40.120
So, it has nothing to do with being a provider for her.
00:47:46.180
Yeah, but she said they're paying money and they're disappearing.
00:47:51.180
I think it's an addiction that these guys have as well.
00:47:53.520
I think what you're saying is true, but it's an addiction.
00:47:55.860
Obviously, in matchmaking, I represent very, very wealthy guys, top 1%.
00:48:07.800
So, they're paying $50,000 to work to get a serious relationship.
00:48:11.960
So, some of them will actually say no, because they're not in the realm of doing this.
00:48:17.840
However, I think it's like an addiction to spend money and feel like, oh, my God, I don't
00:48:24.080
And it's like, I think what Brian's saying about the providing, it's sort of like, let's
00:48:30.800
So, Laura, would you say then that Exana is incorrect about this, that there is a provider
00:48:42.260
I mean, I think it depends how you define provider.
00:48:45.560
So, I think she's defining provider in the sense of like a husband providing for his wife.
00:48:52.660
But these guys do feel that like they need to give money to women.
00:49:01.900
And they definitely have low self-esteem and like psychological issues.
00:49:07.480
But what is a driven force for them to do something like this?
00:49:09.700
I think these men are being taken advantage of.
00:49:19.760
They don't feel like they were taken advantage of.
00:49:27.260
I feel like these criticisms are not directed towards you.
00:49:30.640
But you're saying that these men are being taken advantage of.
00:49:41.640
I think there are grown men consenting to this.
00:49:49.900
Like, it's if a guy wants to be kicked in the balls or if he wants to be spat on or just
00:49:58.340
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
00:49:59.900
And because it's not socially normal, they have to come on the internet and find girls
00:50:04.160
like me to do it to them because they're too scared to tell their girlfriends that they're
00:50:11.440
And younger girls, they're more attracted to give them money as like, oh, she's a damsel
00:50:19.940
All I post about is they, like, I've just sold screenshots of my bank account.
00:50:24.900
And they're like, get off to like, oh, my God, you're so rich and you're 18.
00:50:28.380
And like, I just brag about how much money I make to them.
00:50:32.340
They want videos of me just bragging that I'm richer than them.
00:50:36.180
By the way, if you feel like Kylie here resembles a previous panelist.
00:50:44.060
Your sister was on the show, I think, about seven, eight months ago.
00:50:59.980
So she can just send pictures and videos and they do all the work for her.
00:51:07.560
So she just doesn't go on it enough for it to work.
00:51:39.000
You've probably never heard of, like, Wishtender, Throne.
00:51:44.480
What's the one that you get paid on specifically?
00:51:46.660
Okay, so you think it's taking advantage of them?
00:51:54.860
Oh, can you just write your, both of your tweets?
00:52:07.240
And then, I guess you could, do you have a Twitter, too?
00:52:21.100
Really quick, just because it came to mind, Gia, you shoot scenes with men, correct?
00:52:55.500
You did, you did say that you do live explicit content, right?
00:53:22.180
The question was boy-girl content, and the answer was yes, boy-girl content.
00:53:26.920
Do you do it with another male, or do the males just watch you?
00:54:01.620
Because you can basically stream whatever you want.
00:54:05.000
There's no, like, you don't sign a contract of, like, you don't have to, like, do explicit
00:54:11.000
I mean, that's certainly possible that you could.
00:54:53.020
How about you just sing, like, a song that you know?
00:55:06.580
I feel like everyone's confused what's happening here.
00:55:22.760
I have over 23K subscribers on Chatterbait, and I just blew up overnight.
00:55:36.740
So, going back to the Findom stuff, what about you?
00:55:41.980
You've just been, you've said you've had, like, 20 Findom dudes or something.
00:56:13.740
And how much total have you made in total from all the guys?
00:57:12.620
Damn, this feels, like, gross even to role play.
00:57:18.940
This is, like, what the ninth circle of hell is.
00:57:23.620
It would be a woman talking to you like that and you actually doing it.
00:57:28.020
That would just be, that would just be that ninth circle of hell.
00:57:33.720
Do you ever, uh, you ever, uh, have, like, a rough day?
00:57:38.700
Like, you ever go to sleep and you're like, fuck.
00:58:04.320
We need you focusing on more important things than the love lives of the kids who round in
00:58:16.200
Yeah, I don't think, um, I think I might be a little too base for old TPUSA.
00:58:21.500
I think that they maybe, maybe wouldn't like too many of my takes and maybe, maybe Charlie
00:58:29.700
He's kind of a, kind of a bit of a feminist a little bit.
00:58:33.640
Also, I'm, we are, we are doing, we are doing very important work here at the whatever
00:58:44.680
We are investigating whatever it is the fuck you guys are doing.
00:59:00.780
Yeah, well, I mean, I understand, um, that there's a presidential debate on tonight and
00:59:10.180
Nobody here or whatever is telling you not to, but there's a lot of people who, uh, they
00:59:14.120
don't give a shit about the debate and would much rather deal with the interpersonal dynamics
00:59:18.620
of men and women, which is what we're exploring here.
00:59:21.100
I think they just like to abuse someone, I mean, abuse men and they monetized it, right?
00:59:46.260
And both are very, very young and it's like, I mean, that's where the separation of the
00:59:51.300
true relationship is happening with us being isolated for so many years and now it's like
01:00:02.200
Do you like when someone or man abused you guys mentally, physically?
01:00:13.300
I think it shows the crisis of masculinity going on.
01:00:23.440
It's just, it's the crisis of masculinity right there.
01:00:25.900
Like a real masculine man who is a provider for his wife isn't going to do this.
01:00:36.700
Now, Laura, can I give you maybe a little pushback on that?
01:00:40.180
Perhaps they are the most masculine men on planet Earth.
01:00:45.460
I think you're just taking advantage of mentally ill.
01:00:51.680
But there's some girls that want to be like choked in the bedroom and...
01:01:00.700
They want to be like choked in the bedroom and have like really...
01:01:11.580
Inside of this industry that you're in, the fandom industry, would you say if the roles
01:01:16.680
were reversed and there was a man who was doing the going to abuse women for money thing,
01:01:23.360
do you think that there would be nearly as many females participating as are men?
01:01:46.580
I just think women are more emotional and non-sexual.
01:01:52.140
Well, they are sexual, but I don't think it's more for men that are sexual.
01:01:58.000
Right, so it's a sexualized fetish, right, that seems to appeal to a certain demographic
01:02:05.640
Yeah, so if you were to have a methodology for the identification of mental illness, wouldn't
01:02:11.120
that methodology include looking for anomalies in human behavior?
01:02:15.020
That would be how you would identify if somebody is mentally ill or not, right?
01:02:30.360
So just saying, from my perspective, it just sounds like a bunch of mentally ill lunatics
01:02:35.240
that are essentially being taken advantage of by predatory women.
01:02:39.420
Now, the reason I disagree with you on this, Laura, is because I think that what happens
01:02:44.120
is you're able to sidestep the female responsibility portion of this by just saying, oh, the men
01:02:53.620
I think that the women here are just as responsible as them because they're taking advantage of
01:02:58.120
Well, I didn't say the men want it and, like, they're not responsible.
01:03:11.720
And probably in 10 years, they might regret doing it.
01:03:15.300
But the problem is, if they don't do it, some other woman will.
01:03:27.540
And really, unless we fix the crisis of masculinity, it's not going to be fixed.
01:03:31.920
And it is a mental illness, but you could argue that doing porn is a mental illness.
01:03:40.160
I'm not sure that I would make the direct correlation this way with something like doing
01:03:48.420
But in the case of somebody who actually wants to physically have a woman's foot stomp on
01:03:56.420
I'm talking about the guy just giving her, like, 10 bucks for coffee, you know, or 1,000
01:04:00.200
Yeah, that's a different level of mental illness.
01:04:03.640
She has 1,825 paying clients per year who are actually soliciting a service from her.
01:04:14.320
I'm just saying the reason that I think that these men probably are mentally ill and they're
01:04:19.440
just being taken advantage of because that's such an anomaly from the male perspective of
01:04:24.720
behavior that I would have to categorize it in that other category of, like, this is
01:04:32.760
It's so far outside of the ordinary for men to seek out social shaming by women.
01:04:38.220
I don't know how else to categorize it except as bad mental illness.
01:04:42.000
If she has thousands of clients, though, and she's only one woman, is it really that far
01:04:47.420
Or, like, have the men in America just totally lost it?
01:04:50.400
Out of 180 million men, it's essentially a statistical anomaly.
01:04:55.860
Like, how big do you think your guy's industry is?
01:04:59.920
Yeah, even if it was 50,000 men, that would be an extraordinary small sample size.
01:05:08.220
Well, I'm not saying it's not too many, but I'm just saying that it's such a small sample
01:05:13.440
Like, there's far more trans people out there than 50,000.
01:05:18.080
So, yeah, I would say that it's such a limited case of actual men.
01:05:22.560
Yeah, it's a niche, and I'm sure that there's some women who can do fairly well in the niche,
01:05:25.920
but it's so outside of the purview for men to seek out social shaming by women.
01:05:32.560
They're afraid to engage with women because they seek not to be socially shamed by them.
01:05:39.480
So, I don't know how else I would categorize that.
01:05:44.680
They're like CEOs, and they have so much money sometimes because they're always so powerful.
01:05:49.540
By the end of the day, they're so exhausted that they want someone to push them to the
01:05:57.560
Because there are a lot of CEOs that will be, like, strong and powerful at the job, but
01:06:03.000
then when they come home, they're like a different being, and they just want to be used and abused
01:06:07.680
and tell them they're worthless so they can go work and have more energy at work.
01:06:13.000
It just sounds like some, like, bizarre power fantasy.
01:06:15.980
My guess is these are men who are mostly saving up their SSI paychecks and their social security
01:06:21.440
disability in order to get this sort of gratification.
01:06:25.080
Not high-powered CEOs with massive jobs where they're raking in millions of dollars.
01:06:30.220
What would even be the incentive for that, right?
01:06:31.940
They could get really, really high-class, like, international prostitutes to come in and
01:06:37.800
There would be no reason to go on some social service where they could even potentially expose
01:06:44.120
So it seems like it's probably more likely, if you're dealing with the numbers of anywhere
01:06:49.660
from $50 to a few thousand dollars, even $10,000, that's not that much money to save
01:06:55.260
up over time if you're on some sort of disability or mentally ill, that type of thing.
01:07:01.820
So do you think that it's not mentally ill and it's more fair if the guy is paying for
01:07:13.180
No, I just think that he's not being taken advantage of in the same exact way.
01:07:19.200
So I would say he's doing something which I would have a moral problem with, but I'm
01:07:23.320
not so sure it's outside the social purview of how enough men act that I would consider
01:07:29.780
I wouldn't say that it's such a rarity in the kind of psyche of the male that they could
01:07:35.400
just go out and spend a couple hundred bucks for some pussy some night, right?
01:07:40.780
I'm not sure that I would categorize that in the same type of category as I'm seeking out
01:07:45.480
social shame from the opposite sex on purpose and paying for it.
01:07:49.500
It seems like you're kind of identifying an extreme and then comparing something which
01:08:07.480
So just to keep going here, so you, Penny, you've recently gotten involved in the kind
01:08:36.120
And so when Brian was asking you earlier about the kind of crazier things that you have done,
01:08:42.000
was the craziest thing that you've done with the femdom thing just going and crushing this
01:08:57.340
And so how many clients would you say monthly you have?
01:09:06.440
And what are the general requests that they're asking you for?
01:09:21.580
So those requests, though, don't sound like dominatrix requests, right?
01:09:28.320
They just want to see me happy and, like, with money.
01:09:35.580
Most of these people, you're not even, like, talking bad to them?
01:09:39.080
I do talk bad, but I'm talking about requests from them.
01:09:45.000
But if they're showing feet, like, she's sending feet pictures, are they, like, foot fetish,
01:09:56.800
I think it's more that they, like, imagine themselves, like, bowing at our feet.
01:10:05.360
So are most of them, like, into domination at the forefront of it?
01:10:09.720
Like, or do you think it's purely, like, financial?
01:10:14.720
I mean, the best way I can describe it is just, like, a guy that gets off to a gold digger
01:10:20.220
Like, he just thinks it's hot that a girl is using him for his money and being mean to him.
01:10:27.960
If you girls had sons, so imagine you were mothers and you had sons, would you want them
01:10:44.240
Would you want your son to act this way in a relationship with the females?
01:10:54.540
If I had a son that, like, sent money to fin doms?
01:10:57.920
So you have an adult son who is trying to develop a relationship or whatever, and you found
01:11:13.280
I wouldn't raise any of my children to be that way.
01:11:27.020
Because you're a woman, it's easier to relate to girls, right?
01:11:33.400
I would do the nurturing side of it, more of the emotional side of it.
01:11:43.460
And the most important thing I think that you can do for them is have a strong, masculine
01:11:49.540
There's been studies, statistical studies, that if it's just a mother raising them and
01:12:05.460
But they need to see a father figure who is strong, masculine, just like a role model.
01:12:20.760
Are you planning on telling your children that you did this?
01:12:29.900
Nothing I do would ever be a secret because it's not, in my opinion, bad.
01:12:35.820
So, do you think in 10 years, when you're looking to get a husband and settle down and
01:12:41.080
have kids, that your husband will accept you having done this in your past?
01:12:54.860
What kind of a husband would you be looking for?
01:12:59.440
Someone that accepts that in my past and that won't judge me for it.
01:13:04.420
Yeah, but I mean, in your ideal world, if I had a magic wand right now, how tall is he?
01:13:37.420
So, when you're pregnant and throwing up 20 times a day, I did it.
01:13:56.780
You girls are very young, and that's less than 1% of men, statistically, what you described.
01:14:03.260
And most of them are not going to accept that you did this in the past.
01:14:06.860
You would have to keep it a secret from them for them to wipe you up, basically.
01:14:10.740
Like, I know in our industry, in matchmaking, if a guy finds out that any woman we present
01:14:17.480
has done any realm of adult work, even OF, I don't even care, whatever, you're on Chatterbait,
01:14:28.760
I mean, it's my job to screen to make sure the girls don't do that.
01:14:33.660
They don't want to meet that girl for a potential long-term relationship.
01:14:40.220
Wait, so as a matchmaker, would you, like, take on a client and advise them to not reveal
01:14:51.700
No, I can't represent women that have a past of sex work.
01:14:58.640
Are you saying that they're not worthy of being loved?
01:15:03.720
The idea is you're selling, or having a person sell the best of themselves, the best of their
01:15:14.860
I'm not saying that they're selling their body like a prostitute.
01:15:17.220
I'm just saying you're in the position of sales.
01:15:19.540
You're saying, listen, I'm going to match you up with a girl who's right for you, right?
01:15:26.080
And to sell this when you do that successfully, right?
01:15:28.000
We ask what the deal breakers are, and the number one deal breaker is no OF, no past of
01:15:34.940
Are you saying we're never going to get married?
01:15:37.120
I'm not saying you're never going to get married at all, but you might not find the guy that
01:15:43.960
I'm just saying, the top 1% of clients that I deal with, the over 6 feet, the good-looking,
01:15:50.980
I think other women should empower women, not put them down.
01:15:54.860
I'm just telling you the facts, that when these men hire us, when they hire a professional
01:15:59.960
matchmaker, it's a very rare circumstance where someone is open to a girl that has done
01:16:08.240
I've maybe had one in 10 years that's like, no, I'm okay with that.
01:16:21.860
Very delusional to think the girl picks her husband.
01:16:24.860
Women hold the key to sex, but men hold the key to relationships.
01:16:49.140
How exactly would you say, Gia, that she was putting down women, though, by talking about
01:16:55.760
I was just saying, because she said that a man would never wife up a girl that does OF.
01:17:39.040
I'll get your other one that came through earlier, too, in a bit.
01:17:43.300
So I disagree with the approach how we view individuals.
01:17:48.020
I think every one of us is given certain experiences for the reason.
01:17:53.320
And unfortunately, sometimes those experiences are very hurtful and painful.
01:18:01.220
As long as you make them peace with the damage that you have done to yourself, and there's going
01:18:10.140
And as long as your partner is aware of what your past was, and you're able to heal each
01:18:19.540
other, you know, most likely you will have a partner who is pretty damaged as well.
01:18:24.820
But as long as you are healing each other and helping each other grow, I have seen people
01:18:29.100
overcoming all kinds of different circumstances.
01:18:31.300
So for me, as a matchmaker, I do not judge anyone.
01:18:34.720
I work with the clients who are coming to me just absolutely broken.
01:18:48.020
My job is to help people grow, to help them to achieve the level of what they are designed,
01:18:55.780
what they are supposed to be on this planet to do.
01:19:06.360
And that goes for men or, you know, for men or women.
01:19:13.580
As long as you are willing to work through the trauma that you are creating for yourself
01:19:22.380
And it is definitely connected with the trauma that you experience as children.
01:19:26.140
I don't know your past, and it's not the place to find out.
01:19:29.760
But people who are in a stable sense of themselves, who are loving and caring, they wouldn't be doing
01:19:43.360
So, yeah, you may be working through some of the past or whatever that you have.
01:19:49.160
My advice to you is don't wait too long to get out from this hole.
01:19:54.780
Because it is going to be really, really, really bad eventually.
01:20:00.940
You're just going deeper and deeper and deeper.
01:20:04.200
You know, the longer you wait, the more you accumulate the hate towards men.
01:20:08.160
You see so much dirt and brokenness and pain that we are the product of what's happening
01:20:20.060
So, what are you going to bring in a relationship as a wife in the future?
01:20:24.800
So, the more you push your heart and emotions away, less you will be able to bring something
01:20:33.260
Have you ever had a client come to you and literally say, you know, I want a girl in
01:20:41.080
Like, I don't know what type of clients you deal with.
01:20:44.380
But for me, I am always encouraging my clients to be more open.
01:20:47.920
And they're just like, no, it's a deal breaker.
01:20:49.780
So, I am not saying at all that they can't find a husband in the future.
01:20:53.320
But it just, you know, may not be, like, it's not everyone.
01:21:00.060
It's this generation only that this is happening to that's dealing with these type of men.
01:21:06.720
So, most of my, if we're talking about males, right, so most of my clients, males, they
01:21:13.160
come to me really avoidant of the intimacy because of certain traumas that had happened
01:21:36.540
I am everything that I can be to help people to achieve the highest level of who they possibly
01:21:45.140
If there is a desire there for anyone to change, if desire is there, and pain is so excruciating
01:21:58.740
And usually, people, that's only, this is the lowest point when they are capable and
01:22:06.480
Has a client ever come to you and said that he wants this?
01:22:08.980
Like, at the end of the day, we still have to cater to our client's needs.
01:22:11.940
Has the client come to me and say, I actually, I didn't even know what is, what is this OnlyFans?
01:22:19.000
I didn't know what OnlyFans term is until this wonderful show.
01:22:25.140
So I learned, and you two, I didn't know what OnlyFans is.
01:22:30.440
So my clients, they don't even, don't even use that term.
01:22:36.660
But it's not just OnlyFans, have they come to you and said, you know, it's okay if she's
01:22:43.080
I have a guy that literally is in love, like loves me exactly for who I am.
01:22:52.600
Usually relationships, you get into a relationship when you guys have similar traumas.
01:22:57.220
And you work through the relationship all your traumas.
01:23:09.380
Why do you get into relationships based around trauma?
01:23:13.620
You get into relationships when you have to deal with some traumas.
01:23:22.660
Well, let's see if we can untangle a couple things here.
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You didn't say sometimes people get into relationships based on similar traumas.
01:23:30.680
You said people get into relationships based on similar traumas.
01:23:34.840
So the thing is, it's like, I don't think that that's true.
01:23:51.800
So sometimes you get into a relationship where you guys have similar traumas,
01:23:56.600
If it doesn't work, like somebody decides to work on it,
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and it goes up, and somebody wants to stay the same,
01:24:03.640
If they both start growing, and they heal their traumas,
01:24:14.020
Can you explain the similar traumas that people experience
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that makes them want to get into a relationship together?
01:24:27.600
Because when you go on a date, you don't ask, like, what's your trauma?
01:24:31.640
But can you give me an example of what these traumas would be
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Like, you don't want to get into a relationship,
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but you still get into a relationship, and you're both avoidant.
01:24:46.900
You're supposed to confide in your husband and wives.
01:24:51.640
So people who are avoidant of relationships get into relationships?
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I think you want to say that everyone has trauma, right?
01:25:10.460
Everyone has some type of traumas they need to deal with.
01:25:13.640
And once you get to the point where you, like, work through it,
01:25:18.480
And I believe that everybody can get to that point, too.
01:25:23.400
Do you guys think you should try to heal your trauma
01:25:41.200
But I haven't seen too many people who actually do that.
01:25:49.860
But typically, it would be the person who didn't have the trauma,
01:26:01.960
Yeah, but usually, yeah, avoidance, they cannot be...
01:26:06.300
No, but what I meant is, like, sometimes you get into a relationship
01:26:09.420
and you have a trauma from a past relationship.
01:26:12.120
And if you find a better guy and he has other traumas,
01:26:16.780
Like, I healed my relationship from my past relationship
01:26:37.060
Can I just ask you very briefly two quick questions?
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Was this guy actually diagnosed as a narcissist
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Was he actually diagnosed clinically as a narcissist?
01:26:56.340
Was he actually diagnosed by a team of medical professionals
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for narcissism or did you diagnose him as being a narcissist?
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that he was a narcissist and there was no diagnosed.
01:27:13.200
Okay, so you diagnosed him as being a narcissist.
01:27:16.680
Now, I just want to point out that narcissism is extraordinarily rare.
01:27:26.660
And yet, for some reason, every woman must be dating the same exact guy
01:27:31.180
because all of them have dated narcissists, which is amazing to me
01:27:35.060
that there's enough narcissists to go around considering how few of them there are.
01:27:39.660
So I'm led to conclude either one of two things.
01:27:42.120
Either, A, there are about 4,000 to 5,000 narcissists who fuck every woman in the United States
01:27:48.900
or the amount of women who believe that they have dated a narcissist
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based on their own self-diagnosis, which is garbage.
01:27:57.180
You have no business diagnosing anybody with anything ever,
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is overwhelming because you all think you're psychologists.
01:28:04.440
It's like, which one do you think is more likely that just a few thousand men fuck every chick in the United States
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or maybe women over-diagnose how many men are narcissists?
01:28:11.140
I think the word narcissism and, like, narcissist is such a buzzword on social media.
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And I believe, like, it gained popularity probably five years ago
01:28:18.680
with all these women saying, my ex is a narcissist,
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which really, I feel like on social and TikTok and stuff,
01:28:29.140
They shouldn't be saying that because NPD is a serious disorder.
01:28:39.220
It's a significant problem if somebody actually has it.
01:28:43.680
Imagine being branded by a woman as having an antisocial disorder
01:28:49.800
because she just doesn't fucking like you, right?
01:28:52.520
No diagnosis, there was no team of doctors that came in,
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there was no bill of medical professionals that spent months
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evaluating your social behaviors to make these determinations.
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Instead, your ex-girlfriend just decided to put out on social media one day,
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oh, by the way, he's a narcissist bastard, and you should have seen this there.
01:29:14.320
and then he told me I look fat in this dress, this son of a...
01:29:23.340
Well, I didn't say anything about paying dinner.
01:29:39.480
Out of the blue, we're just sitting at the couch,
01:29:42.640
and you're just screaming and throwing the remote control.
01:29:49.140
He is a real dick, and he's definitely, I would say, abusive.
01:29:57.800
But he definitely sucked, and he was toxic, at the very least.
01:30:07.220
I think that it's a better word to describe it.
01:30:11.920
We are trying our hardest here, at the whatever podcast, to stop the wild allegations of narcissism.
01:30:18.980
Not every man you dated is a narcissist, because he didn't kiss your ass, I promise you.
01:30:33.400
It'd be very scary when people beat up the remote control in front of you.
01:30:36.880
I mean, we can't make light of a woman that, you know, feels that she was emotionally abused.
01:30:49.120
You know, I never heard any fucking buddy, ever, talk about trauma until I started going on these different shows with various women.
01:31:02.480
They love psychology, because I don't know why women are so drawn to psychology, like little machinations.
01:31:08.120
I think they think that it's going to help them manipulate their environment and people better.
01:31:13.220
So you're saying that all women are manipulated, not men.
01:31:19.560
You've been letting me explain the position, right?
01:31:23.200
So anyway, the position is just this, that when you're talking about trauma, how much trauma you have, all my trauma, what about my trauma, just try to remember this, that everything is fucking traumatic.
01:31:39.680
And what women often do is they take, in the moment, how I felt, and then they externalize
01:31:45.040
it on the person next to them, as though that means it's true.
01:31:54.960
Men are supposed to protect women, not make them feel scared.
01:31:58.420
And it's like, well, think about how it made his poor hand feel.
01:32:00.640
That's, well, clearly, he is not protecting me where he should have.
01:32:10.020
I mean, if you look up DV, domestic violence, like that's in there.
01:32:14.760
I mean, you can't just say that's not a big deal.
01:32:17.700
First is a wall, and then it's going to be my face.
01:32:20.560
So I'll drop a leave before my face gets touched.
01:32:24.500
Yeah, well, I mean, but did your face get touched?
01:32:30.040
Right, but what I'm saying is, is that oftentimes what happens is people will take how they feel
01:32:36.700
and map it on as though it's the reality of a situation.
01:32:40.460
It's also possible that this guy punched a hole in his wall and would never have touched
01:32:45.340
Do you punch holes in your wall with your wife there?
01:32:53.700
Do you think men are supposed to protect women or not?
01:32:56.720
One time I was playing Red Dead Redemption 2, and this fucker was spawn camping me, and
01:33:01.280
he spawn camped me for hours, and I could not get out of the spot, and I finally got
01:33:04.640
so frustrated, I threw the controller down on the ground, and my wife went, what's wrong?
01:33:15.320
In fear for the mortal light, you know what I mean?
01:33:18.260
I think she's talking about in an argument, in a verbal yelling argument, he...
01:33:25.780
Like, I can understand when somebody screams at somebody else.
01:33:27.160
You weren't, like, throwing a controller at a video game.
01:33:34.760
But what is actionable is different than how you feel.
01:33:41.080
It was an occurrence that happened all the time.
01:33:48.740
Yeah, what's the evidence that he did it to scare her other than she says so?
01:33:53.020
Dude, I mean, why else would a guy punch a wall in an argument if it's not normal behavior?
01:34:04.920
Argument is a normal behavior, which is not a normal behavior when it becomes abusive to a point where you can't do anything and you have to run away from the apartment.
01:34:17.560
So, number one, if this guy is actually sick, like sick mentally, why did you choose him?
01:34:24.600
Something inside of you helped you to... made you to choose this guy.
01:34:28.000
If this guy is not mentally sick, but he got fed up with all the arguments, with all of the negativity, with drama and everything, then he lost his cool.
01:34:40.380
So, it's either poor choices because maybe he is sick, right?
01:34:44.440
Or other is that the woman is capable to either build something beautiful out of men or destroy him.
01:35:16.040
Well, the thing is, is like, if you didn't become so enraged and emotional and you would just listen to what I'm saying, you'd understand the position, right?
01:35:26.340
All I'm saying is that projecting how you feel in a moment, in an exact moment, especially when you're heightened, your adrenaline is pumping, you're upset.
01:35:34.280
You can have perceptions of a situation when it's not clear that that actually was what the situation is.
01:35:53.240
They're really kind of up in the air and there for interpretation.
01:35:56.480
And so, before I'd be smirchman as being abusive or narcissistic or any of these things, I like to see something ever get past the allegation point into the proof point.
01:36:07.480
And that's the point where I get very, very little, right?
01:36:13.520
I think that people should engage in that more, but they don't.
01:36:16.700
Instead, they just kind of map things onto how I felt in the moment and then that makes how they felt truth when it may not actually be true.
01:36:43.740
I don't know the exact part, but they come from your brain.
01:36:48.020
We just want to explain that it's first red flag.
01:37:12.580
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
01:37:14.820
Why are we in a philosophical conversation now?
01:37:21.560
Anyway, so the point is, though, is all I'm saying is that mapping how you feel onto a
01:37:31.680
It doesn't mean that that was the truth of the situation.
01:37:40.660
You can disagree that in that situation, I'm wrong, sure.
01:37:44.300
But you can't disagree that just mapping a feeling onto a situation doesn't mean that
01:37:50.320
the truth of the matter is that is how the situation was.
01:37:56.580
I just, it was actually a trauma that I had that I fixed it with a different boyfriend and
01:38:12.100
If my daughter comes out and she says, Dad, I feel like there's a monster under the bed.
01:38:17.340
And I go in a room and I look under the bed and there's no fucking monster under the bed, right?
01:38:22.280
Is the truth of the matter that there is actually a monster under the bed because she feels like there is one?
01:38:27.400
But if your daughter came to you and she's 16 and she said, hey, a guy hit the wall next to my face,
01:38:43.560
If my daughter looked under her bed, I went and looked under her bed, there's no monster there.
01:38:50.820
She's not talking about an imaginary circumstance, though.
01:38:53.880
Is it possible for you to engage with the actual question and then ask yours?
01:39:14.880
So, Laura, the question is, would the truth of the matter be that there was a monster under the bed,
01:39:21.320
No, there's no monster, but you're comparing this to actual domestic violence, which I don't really love.
01:39:35.860
The problem is, with the comparison of feeling to feeling,
01:39:39.000
if we're judging whether the truth of the matter is the truth of the matter.
01:39:47.680
Like, you're comparing two things that are not the same.
01:40:01.760
If you punch a wall, you can't tell me that you can determine intent based off of somebody punching a wall.
01:40:16.280
He would be punching the walls on the first date and the second date.
01:40:22.080
Just so you understand, when you're talking about definitions, people can define a thing.
01:40:28.960
As long as it's coherent, makes sense, and it's indicative of the thing which it's pointing at, that's totally fine.
01:40:35.620
So, you know, as far as the definition goes, I don't see any actual problem.
01:40:39.980
I just feel like you're excusing his behavior, which I don't love.
01:40:43.680
I just feel like by arguing about it this much, you're excusing the behavior and saying it's okay, even though you wouldn't do it to your wife.
01:40:49.580
And even though your daughter, if a guy did this to her, you wouldn't love it.
01:40:55.900
Why are you lying and saying I said it was okay?
01:40:59.100
You're not saying it's okay, but fighting about it this much, it just seems like you're excusing it.
01:41:08.440
What I said was, I gave an argument for how you can map feelings on to a situational reality where the feelings don't mean that that is the truth of the matter.
01:41:18.140
Instead of contending with what I said, you interjected your feelings and then made up shit I didn't even say because of how my words made you fucking feel.
01:41:29.320
I just think by making all these comparisons, it seems like you're condoning it.
01:41:37.600
Well, it seems like you condone S.A. by the way that you talk, you condone S.A.
01:41:44.260
I just feel like you're the type of person who condones S.A.
01:41:58.360
I feel like you're the type of person who does it because I feel that way.
01:42:02.300
We can just make whatever allegations we want just based on how we fucking feel, right?
01:42:08.800
You know, in my opinion, behind every action, there is something deeper that actually motivates
01:42:17.420
So I'll give you an example from my personal life.
01:42:20.020
Between, like, an example from between me and my husband.
01:42:26.080
He got really, really mad because pizza was not done correctly.
01:42:34.080
I wanted to make pizza and lay in the pepperoni in a certain way to make it really perfect.
01:42:41.560
He wanted the pepperoni to be laid in one level.
01:42:50.440
I mean, you can interpret his reaction by that he is an asshole, that he got mad.
01:42:56.160
But in reality, what happened, you got to look in the past.
01:42:59.920
His mom was pushing the foot on him that he absolutely didn't like.
01:43:07.180
I had a critical parent who thinks were not good enough.
01:43:12.080
So I tried to overcompensate where he felt like he was not hurt.
01:43:22.800
You're saying, okay, so now feelings are involved and other things are going on in the material world which are backed by the feelings that we can look at.
01:43:34.060
There's a lot of interpretation which goes into the feeling.
01:43:37.540
And so that's all I'm trying to say is that, you know, when you say things like you're mitigating DV, right, or you're trying to somehow make it seem like it's not as bad as it is, quite the opposite.
01:43:48.940
What I'm doing is adhering to a standard for how we can even judge these things coherently without slander and accusation and innuendo and backbiting and front stabbing and all that shit.
01:44:00.440
Rather, some type of appeal to a standard which is unerring and doesn't change.
01:44:05.680
Something that would be backed by evidence and not feelings.
01:44:10.120
Yeah, I couldn't have said so smart as you are.
01:44:34.240
You're downplaying her abusive relationship because he punches near her, he throws stuff near her, but doesn't actually hit her.
01:44:45.180
So if a kid were to come to a school with a gun and someone saw it, but he doesn't – like, how do you know if he's going to shoot anyone?
01:44:57.880
So what makes you think that he's not going to do it?
01:45:01.120
I'll answer the question as it's actually presented.
01:45:04.520
So if you're talking about this, you couldn't determine 100% what his motivations would be, right?
01:45:10.040
You would have to err on the side of caution and the trends in the past, which if somebody brings this said object to school, usually the intention is nefarious.
01:45:19.480
Though it does not mean in this particular instance it was.
01:45:22.100
We would assume that it was and we would act accordingly, especially since the school says that you can't have the gun there, et cetera, et cetera, for good reason.
01:45:35.340
When you're talking about DEV, it's going to be the exact same thing.
01:45:38.760
It's not just up to interpretations, up to action.
01:45:42.620
So I can think of many situations where a man could get frustrated and throw something and meant no harm to anybody or punch a wall out of frustration and meant no harm to anybody.
01:45:52.500
The interpretation which comes in, the feelings-based interpretation, you may not like that, but it's very difficult for us to always map on motive if we don't have better context than just one time he hit a wall next to me, right?
01:46:06.140
No, but she had mentioned that he was throwing things at her.
01:46:09.700
So why would she not think that she could be next?
01:46:12.340
Well, we're not very clear on the exact situation, are we, right?
01:46:18.040
Did he throw things at her before he punched the wall?
01:46:23.020
But ultimately, just to kind of grant this, just to grant all of this, right?
01:46:29.020
I'm just going to grant all of it, that he's thrown things at her.
01:46:37.540
I was just saying, I can just grant all of this as being true.
01:46:41.640
My statement that your feelings are interpretive is not ever going to change.
01:46:46.860
Your feelings are totally interpretive, and just because you feel like something is true,
01:46:55.820
But what I see women always do is say, how I feel is valid, and it's not open to interpretation.
01:47:02.440
And it's like, no, that's not the truth of the matter just because you feel that way.
01:47:20.480
Everything you think is actually really happening.
01:47:27.680
That goes back to what I said earlier, but it's fine.
01:47:32.420
If a guy had the intent of keeping or wanting his girlfriend to feel safe,
01:47:36.340
why would he be aggressive around her and throw things at her?
01:47:42.140
Well, I'm not so sure that the intention in that particular case would be that he's trying to make her feel safe.
01:47:48.020
I don't think that the entirety of a man's existence is tailored around making women feel fucking safe.
01:47:53.240
I don't think that that's what they do 24 hours a day,
01:47:56.380
is worry all day long about making you fucking feel safe.
01:48:04.640
And that itself is open to interpretation, right?
01:48:10.040
You could feel unsafe in a situation that you're totally safe in, right?
01:48:16.200
But I asked Alina if the guy was acting like this.
01:48:20.260
Real quick, can I get an answer to my question?
01:48:23.060
You could be in a situation, correct, where you feel totally unsafe,
01:48:27.820
where the truth of the matter is that you're totally safe.
01:48:35.480
So you couldn't be, for instance, getting prepped for, like, I don't know,
01:48:40.040
a medical procedure or something like this, and you could feel unsafe, right?
01:48:44.680
Even though let's say it has, like, a 100% success rate, you could feel unsafe.
01:48:49.440
But the truth of the matter is you would be unsafe because you felt unsafe.
01:48:57.100
Okay, so by that metric, then, shouldn't everybody just always feel unsafe at all times
01:49:09.860
Okay, well, then I understand how it could be possible that you couldn't be in situations
01:49:14.700
where you could just feel unsafe even though you weren't unsafe.
01:49:18.540
I think sometimes the intuition plays a role, so if you feel unsafe, maybe something is wrong.
01:49:34.840
But is it the case that it's always true that because you feel unsafe, you are unsafe?
01:49:46.680
You had a bad dream, and you woke up, and you're scared, right?
01:49:49.880
Because in the dream, there was a crazy chainsaw-wielding clown.
01:49:55.340
Let me finish, and I'll let you respond, right?
01:49:57.300
In your dream, a crazy chainsaw clown was chasing you down the street, right?
01:50:02.420
And he woke up, and he went, and you were feeling really unsafe.
01:50:37.620
No, I'm saying I'll actually answer your questions.
01:50:40.400
I would just like if you actually answered mine.
01:50:43.600
You're comparing with real person, man, and then unreal situation.
01:50:51.720
It's just one's where you're like physical, and one's like.
01:50:56.680
I think he's just saying what you feel is a personal experience might not actually be a reality.
01:51:04.100
How do I send money down so that you can go get a drink after this on me?
01:51:09.280
Because I don't know why you're the only human being on that panel who fucking understood a word I just said, but you are.
01:51:19.000
If someday your daughter can come and say, like, I feel unsafe with my boyfriend, husband, whatever, because he punched the wall, what are you going to do?
01:51:32.320
I would take all the facts into consideration, including how she felt about it, and I would give an interpretation.
01:51:38.960
I would give an interpretation based on all of the facts which were around me to the best of my possible ability.
01:51:45.600
But what I would not assume ever was that instantly based on a feeling that that was the truth of the matter.
01:51:54.700
So I would always subject everything to reason first if I could, right?
01:52:01.740
Could be driven by feelings to do rational things.
01:52:04.900
I'm in no way the perfect form, as it were, just pure human logic walking around in a skin suit.
01:52:11.240
But I still do think you should temper reason to feelings.
01:52:16.740
So here I was making the same exact point that if you're so willing to just come out and say somebody else is a narcissist, that's all interpretative or all interpretive of your feelings, how I felt.
01:52:38.520
That's just made-up trite, and so that's what led into the idea of whether or not you could have feelings which don't map on to reality.
01:52:53.360
Women tend to jump to the conclusions, and men are...
01:53:08.580
So that's the difference between men and women.
01:53:11.200
If we would be able to see the situation, actually...
01:53:14.700
That's one advice that I give to all you ladies here.
01:53:36.880
That is the man who's not looking for the family or intimacy or connection.
01:53:41.280
They care about what you look like, so they can use you temporary without any commitment.
01:53:46.960
But men are designed by Mother Nature as well to connect with the physical attributes.
01:54:08.760
So, especially in countries where there's very little food, when they need everything
01:54:11.460
that's not nailed down, women are also predatory, women also hunt in packs.
01:54:40.420
But to say that men are predatory and women are not predatory is insanity.
01:54:44.700
You know, when we were going back, I'm trying to make my point.
01:54:47.700
And when I asked Alina, when she started dating this guy, was he punching the walls on right
01:54:54.980
So, apparently, his behavior had changed through the time that they were dating.
01:55:00.920
So, then, you got to get a little bit deeper and understand why his behavior had changed.
01:55:10.940
Maybe he had to show that he is a freaking man by doing the stupid stuff like that.
01:55:21.360
But I just know from my experience that if women would show respect to men, if we would
01:55:29.700
hear them, if we would be able to validate them, show gratitude, their behavior is going
01:55:41.400
Certainly, there is crazy category out there as well.
01:55:44.520
Are you saying that it's okay for men to punch a wall in front of, in the presence of a woman
01:55:48.420
Are you saying it is okay for women to disrespect men?
01:55:55.820
Women, they're able to motivate inadequate actions in men by showing them disrespect, by not showing
01:56:04.100
them gratitude, by not showing them validation that we actually validate and appreciate
01:56:11.240
So we are able to trigger those type of reactions.
01:56:16.620
And again, I'm not talking about psycho and crazy ones.
01:56:20.220
I'm talking about that you can get men completely messed up mentally.
01:56:24.620
Men are just as capable of abusing men as men are capable of abusing women.
01:56:45.660
I can't believe we're still talking about this.
01:56:46.840
They want their feelings, but it is hard for them to reach out for those feelings.
01:56:52.900
If we would be able to inspire in men to open up their feelings, then that's where they're
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actually fulfilling relationships would be happening.
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But we are able to inspire absolutely the most amazing things in our men.
01:57:11.560
But if we are punching them, things are not good enough.
01:57:15.840
Is the 18-year-old smarter than the 19-year-old?
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Is the Eastern Europeans smarter than Americans or Asians are smarter than?
01:57:33.780
Women typically have better intuition than men.
01:57:36.480
Women and men actually would be looking for our advice.
01:57:45.060
Men who are married and respect their wives, they come and they...
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It is not like, Andrew, do you come to your wife and discuss with her some things?
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So even a guy as masculine and opinionated, he is talking to his wife.
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He is asking for her opinion as well because he respects her.
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Not just any discussion, like emotional and deep and yeah.
01:58:30.480
It is not about his wife is going against him or showing disrespect or whatever, but
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But we women, we are able to inspire and motivate men to do either crazy stuff or great stuff.
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Also, it's not our job to work on their traumas.
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We're each individual, like people, like nobody.
01:59:08.420
If you are going separate, like I'm working on my shit, you're working on your shit.
01:59:13.100
You are considered as one when you get married.
01:59:16.160
No, you start connecting right from the beginning.
01:59:18.680
Why men should give you whatever you want without you giving him what he needs?
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Nobody owes you anything until, like, unless you're married.
01:59:30.580
Nobody owes you anything until you're married is what you said?
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Didn't earlier you say it's a man's job to protect a woman?
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Or, I don't know, if a man's dating a woman, did you not say that it's a man's job to protect?
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So if you saw a child getting abused, would you not?
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Would you let, would you support the man or no?
01:59:54.500
What does this have anything, I'll answer the question, but what does that have anything
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to do with what I'm asking you and talking about?
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Because you're, you're telling me that I'm responsible for, like.
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We're talking, you said that in a relationship.
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You got to let people finish their fucking sentences and you can't interrupt them.
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But in order for us to hear you, we have to allow you to speak and listen to you.
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And then in exchange, you have to allow us to speak and listen to you.
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Am I asking you to be polite and interrupt people?
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I gave you a warning before politely and you continue doing it and you're doing it to
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I warned you when Andrew was talking, you were interrupting me.
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You asked the most like unrelated, like non sequitur questions ever.
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I know he's probably listening to everything that I'm saying, but you are just like, I
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Like I cannot physically, like I'm losing brain cells listening to you.
02:01:31.840
So if you need me to actually articulate what you did before, Andrew was speaking.
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You'll start talking while somebody else is talking.
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And there's, I think some of that within reason, interjecting at certain key points in
02:01:52.540
But I think there's a distinction between that and kind of incessant interrupting.
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The thing is, it's like, I'm not going to beat you up about it because I want to hear
02:02:06.500
I believe the question was, so you said that something like you don't owe them anything
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until you're married or I don't want to misquote you.
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But earlier in the conversation, you said that men should protect women in the context of
02:02:50.800
Like your thoughts that you've been here are so disjointed.
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You are very young and I don't, I just feel like you're trolling.
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You said you don't really owe anybody anything until you're married.
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Bro, we cannot have, you obviously heard what I said.
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Yeah, I see you smiling, so I know you're just fucking trolling.
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Look, we're trying to, I know sometimes we can joke around and stuff, but I'm really not going to tolerate the trolling.
02:04:54.140
I don't think I've ever heard of you or met you or you're irrelevant to me.
02:05:00.840
I still didn't fly in from Florida for this, to be troll.
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Just repeat it one time, Gia, be quiet and listen.
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Do you want me to answer, like, seriously or not seriously?
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If it's not a serious question, then I don't answer.
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You are ignorant and a waste of a chair on the panel.
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I'll repeat the question just so that you're totally clear.
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Do you think that leprechauns do actually exist at the end of the rainbow?
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Do you think there is, like, a little pot of gold there that you can follow it to the end?
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I wildly overestimated it, but I was willing to indulge it.
02:07:05.180
Well, so, I mean, I've been trying to engage in good faith here.
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So, look, you're going to need to check the fucking attitude.
02:07:22.460
We can agree to have a good faith conversation moving forward.
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Well, I'm trying to figure out exactly how I want to navigate this here.
02:08:32.520
So, I'm trying to reel things back and bring it back to a good faith conversation.
02:08:42.300
So, are we going to have a good faith conversation?
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I'm trying to extend an olive branch here so we can move on with the conversation.
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Stop being a dork and either engage in the conversation or get out of here.
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Well, then gladly get the fuck up and get out of here, tard.
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You just can't handle the fact that I'm smarter than you and, like, you can't keep up with the conversation.
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If you can't hold the conversation any longer, what does that mean?
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Personally, I would not let that slide if I were anybody in this room.
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Grid One Motorsports donated $200 and one cent.
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This is why no one wants to be around this dumb beach.
02:11:05.200
Literally the dumbest person this panel has seen in a while.
02:11:53.400
Andrew, I'm going to ask the question one more time.
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Can I ask you one question before you ask me a question?
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It's related to what he was just talking about.
02:12:08.300
Why would I answer yours if you won't answer mine?
02:12:13.220
I'm going to bring it back to the actual conversation at hand.
02:12:19.060
So, earlier in the conversation, you said something along the lines of men should protect
02:12:26.020
In the context of, like, a romantic relationship, men should protect women, boyfriends should
02:12:30.640
protect girlfriends, husbands should protect wives, or, well, boyfriends should protect
02:12:34.120
girlfriends, men should protect women in general when it comes to dating, but you said you're
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not owed anything in a relationship prior to marriage.
02:12:42.600
So, how do you reconcile these two conflicting positions?
02:12:57.860
Well, just for you, just so I have it perfectly, I will Google the exact definition of reconcile.
02:13:06.320
So, make consistent with another, especially by allowing, well, make consistent with another, cause
02:13:17.700
And then, what was the other word that you added in that sentence, like, before that?
02:13:34.700
Oh, I'm actually being so, I'm not trying to, like, trigger you.
02:13:48.240
Please, Brian, kick Pugsley Adams off the show.
02:14:11.780
I thought you just got done saying you're the smartest person here.
02:14:50.180
So, what do you want while you are dating a man to protect you?
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It's not necessary, but, like, I would like, I don't like to feel scared anywhere I go.
02:15:04.200
So, how would you then define whether or not he is a protector and provider if he does not show his qualities while you are dating?
02:15:14.120
Would you be marrying blind without knowing whether he is a protect?
02:15:18.840
So, how would you find out if he is a protector and provider if he does not display that while you are dating?
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I was talking over you, and I was speaking while you were speaking, so, technically, I couldn't.
02:15:36.800
So, while you are dating, you have to define whether or not this partner is right for you, right?
02:15:42.140
But you are saying that men should not be protecting and providing you until marriage, correct?
02:15:49.360
No, I think men should protect you before marriage, but not provide for you until you're married.
02:15:56.680
So, then, he is displaying his qualities as a protector while you are dating, but at the same time, you do not give him anything back.
02:16:10.740
But how he would be able to define whether or not you are good wife material, if you don't show that you're in dating?
02:16:44.800
I mean, it should be joy for the woman to actually...
02:16:54.100
You know, if you want fulfilling a relationship...
02:16:58.520
Do you want fulfilling and loving relationship?
02:17:21.700
Why would you be even dating men if you don't need a man?
02:17:54.600
In our conversation before, you said that you would not want to treat your man like a
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But at the same time, you want him to protect you while you are dating.
02:18:33.900
Yeah, but we can't have a conversation because you just can't even have a conversation.
02:18:39.760
You literally were making comments earlier, like putting down OF.
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I just said, you may not get the man you want while you're getting it.
02:19:01.860
I take that as very disrespectful towards all the OF girls.
02:19:06.980
The thought is coming from her brain, so it's true.
02:19:12.260
It's, like, engraved in her head that you women cannot be hot and exist.
02:19:15.200
The thought is coming from her brain that OnlyFans girls suck, so therefore it's true, right?
02:19:24.380
Like, I'm sorry you're mad that I'm hot and you're not.
02:19:33.820
And whether you take that offensively or not, that's your opinion.
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That really shows whether you think you're hot or not.
02:19:55.240
You're in a completely different generation than me.
02:20:02.880
I know, you're very young, and I think you're doing this for attention, and I feel bad for
02:20:07.440
you, and I did not fly here from Florida to not have a conversation.
02:20:12.160
Are you mad that I'm getting more attention than you are?
02:20:21.740
Your hair literally matches your whole personality.
02:20:26.780
All right, well, you can't start insulting the panelists now, so.
02:20:39.460
No, I just, I literally mentioned, the first thing I ever said was I said that I do OF.
02:20:43.640
I said I do OF, and you said that no man would wife, I'm not wifey material, or whatever
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We can't even have a real conversation on this panel, because you've been trolling it for,
02:20:59.200
I don't even know, I don't have a watch, but probably about an hour.
02:21:02.020
No, everyone's listening, and everybody thinks you're ridiculous, honey.
02:21:18.180
Well, perhaps I can speed things along here a little bit.
02:21:22.340
I have a couple questions for you, and then we'll get back to some of the panelists here.
02:22:00.960
Are you going to do a fucking 12-year-old meme, really?
02:22:13.760
Is that why you're making fun of me and called me, addressed me?
02:22:39.900
So let me, Andrew, just let me ask the questions, and I'll speed this along as quick as I can.
02:23:02.220
Ontologically or metaphysically or, like, which way are you asking what a man is so that I'm clear?
02:23:09.900
I mean, this definitely meets the threshold for, like, disruptive sabotage interruption.
02:23:19.400
I just wanted to make sure I get the question clear.
02:23:21.040
I'm just uno-reversed you, and you're getting upset because I uno-reversed.
02:23:26.380
So, how do you do, how is this your job if you get offended so quickly?
02:23:33.140
It's definitely reaching the threshold of the troll.
02:23:40.440
You guys should, like, tape her mouth shut just for a little.
02:23:50.120
I just asked you to not ask me stupid questions.
02:23:53.940
So, if you're, like, not taking me seriously, what makes you think that I'm going to take
02:24:04.020
I'll see if I can get something else out of you.
02:24:06.560
Who do you think is the primary victim of war, men or women?
02:24:22.460
Who is the primary victim of war, men or women?
02:25:15.360
You can't ask me a question that you can only ask a black.
02:25:18.820
No, I'm not saying if you can be racist towards.
02:25:26.940
Can people in general be racist towards white people?
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If they can be racist towards anybody, I believe.
02:25:46.640
You don't remember anything, so I'm not going to really say anything.
02:26:39.400
Surreal, Gio, the only reason I think you're still there is because you're causing enough
02:26:44.240
They feel the need to donate 200 for the sole purpose of letting you know you're a dumb blank.
02:26:53.820
That was a hate comment, and you just read that out loud.
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I can sue you if I really wanted to, so don't fuck with me, ho.
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He said, get the fuck out of here, you dumb bitch!
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When you walk in, they ask you to take off your shoes and get naked.
02:29:38.600
I'm afraid she's going to steal her shit, guys.
02:29:52.640
Andrew, are you enjoying the peace and silence?
02:30:06.120
I love when people do the low-tier trolling, that's my favorite kind.
02:30:13.080
Because there's no way for them to really win, right?
02:30:15.980
All they can really do is just sit there and make Brian money, which is hilarious to me.
02:30:19.660
It's like, it always backfires, but for some reason they do it anyway.
02:30:24.620
I feel bad for, it's like I'm always trying to dig, can I help the person or not?
02:30:32.480
This is going to be challenging, would be challenging.
02:31:03.860
Your permission to be here is going to be a phone.
02:31:12.900
Can you repeat that one more time before I leave?
02:31:42.160
My GM things control the best you've ever said about me.
02:32:11.540
Wait, can you guys connect with me a little bit?
02:32:22.220
What am I supposed to rotate the camera with my psyche?
02:33:11.320
Oh, we just thought that we're going to get to her tomorrow.
02:33:14.520
My sister was supposed to come, but she came at the last minute, so Ryan asked me to bring
02:33:20.040
We thought she was a character, but I didn't know she was here.
02:33:25.820
So she was just saying all that shit, like, I do explicit content, I don't.
02:34:30.640
Here's why I didn't just kind of keep the show going from this end.
02:34:35.640
Because I know the whatever audience pretty well, right?
02:34:40.300
Even if it was just ever so faintly, they still wanted to hear what was going on in the background.
02:34:45.580
And I was not going to deprive the whatever audience of that.
02:35:05.080
But, I mean, she refused to leave even back there.
02:35:08.980
We had to essentially threaten that we were going to call the police.
02:35:11.820
Well, that certainly meets the criteria for a sabotage or trolling situation.
02:35:18.200
So whatever legal options may be available to us, we'll see.
02:35:31.220
We were recording all the bullshit that was going on back there.
02:35:43.680
So, oh, can you guys turn that light out there?
02:36:11.100
It's going to be in the behind-the-scenes section here.
02:36:16.380
So we'll post all the, like, the kick-out and stuff on there.
02:36:37.680
I want to apologize to the rest of the panel here for the disruption there.
02:36:46.200
Well, you can't say you didn't give her every opportunity, Brian.
02:36:48.620
Oh, I was, I should have, honestly, I should have kicked her away sooner.
02:36:56.740
I think that that was the right move to just kind of show and demonstrate that there was
02:37:00.700
absolutely no way she was ever going to have a good faith conversation.
02:37:05.160
And I think that that was exactly what you should have done.
02:37:07.940
Yeah, I mean, I wanted to at least try to bring her back from the troll.
02:37:19.880
So, anyways, like I said, we will post all that BTS stuff that we got of her.
02:37:26.360
She called us the P-word because we were recording her.
02:37:36.460
Oh, and then when we were trying to get her out, she said that she started yelling in
02:37:42.940
the hallways saying that we were kidnapping her.
02:37:46.520
So, this is the kind of women you're dealing with basically just falsely accusing.
02:37:56.580
And after you took the time, I saw earlier, Brian was such a gentleman.
02:38:01.480
He took the time to have his staff bring out a little cushion so that she could reach the
02:38:09.980
He put this little cushion down so that she could get high enough to speak into.
02:38:27.780
I just got done watching a presidential debate with a hysterical whiny lady.
02:38:32.540
Return on the whatever podcast and a hysterical whiny lady is being kicked out.
02:38:40.320
Yeah, it should have been Trump kicked out Kamala from the debate.
02:38:56.120
Drop a save follow in the Prime sub if you have one.
02:39:12.220
And your fans deserve to see all the action, especially with such an entitled of whore beach.
02:39:19.300
Yeah, the problem with our setup is at least we can only have four cameras.
02:39:24.920
I have an additional camera, but our computer rig won't handle more than four.
02:39:28.960
So I would basically just have to turn one of these cameras.
02:39:33.560
I've done it before, but it kind of didn't occur to me.
02:39:37.080
And actually, before the show, she was asking about, like, nip-slip stuff.
02:39:41.440
So, like, we were already kind of on high alert.
02:39:47.940
So that's why I didn't turn the camera so you could see the BTS because she was, like, talking about, like, nip-slip shit.
02:39:54.900
And we just didn't want to – I actually brought that –
02:39:57.700
I knew, Brian, I knew that she was trolling the second I asked her.
02:40:01.220
I had a very serious question about leprechauns and pots of gold, and she wouldn't even answer.
02:40:05.160
So I knew right then, when you get asked the leprechaun question, if leprechauns, you know, if you see one, do they lead you to a pot of gold?
02:40:13.660
And she didn't, you know – she really just didn't even engage, and it was a super serious question.
02:40:18.200
But, yeah, I was so concerned about the potential nip-slip.
02:40:22.780
I was thinking about having her wear one of my Pantera – hold on, let me move the mic out of the way.
02:40:30.840
Either this Pantera shirt or this one, but then we decided that we, you know, maybe – maybe it wasn't going to be a –
02:40:46.180
Maybe it wasn't – oh, you probably couldn't hear me while I stopped.
02:41:02.860
Ask everyone to rate their looks, total face, body.
02:41:05.960
On a scale of 1 to 10, you can't pick 7, starting with you, Kylie.
02:41:21.480
Can I have you tilt your mic down a little bit?
02:41:27.120
8.5 because there's always space for improvement.
02:41:34.980
The combination of the inside and outside, that's how I would go.
02:41:47.760
but as long as my husband's happy, I'm happy, to be honest,
02:42:24.880
So ask everyone to rate their looks total face body.
02:42:27.380
I'm assuming you guys gave me your total count.
02:42:30.400
Let's do the breakdown face body, going back around.
02:43:11.080
I'm always being judged when I go to castings and modeling.
02:44:04.860
Body, infinity, because it just birthed four beautiful humans, and honestly, that is a feat
02:44:16.820
But I think Victoria's Secret models have a 10, so you really shouldn't rate yourself
02:44:27.500
I don't like to be counted, so I just want to feel myself 10 always.
02:44:38.880
So I'm a 36, but a lot of people, they said, like, I'm looks like 28, 29.
02:45:24.320
I think that you can have a really pretty face and still be a very unattractive person,
02:45:33.580
I think it's intertwined, and so I think that you would give a number to the overall appearance
02:45:39.060
versus giving it to these individualistic characters.
02:45:52.580
To what I think the point of the question is, is to kind of take all of those characteristics
02:45:57.420
and combine them so that we have a number of attractiveness, right?
02:46:01.420
So that it's not just kind of endlessly reduced into these various criteria, or we can never
02:46:10.520
Oh, one quick question, and you can just do show of hands for the whole panel.
02:46:14.180
Have you ever seen a beautiful woman with a mid-guy?
02:46:29.140
So do you think none of the women here rating themselves a 10, do you think that you're the
02:46:42.500
I just moved recently, like three months ago, and I gained weight, and I got some pimples
02:46:52.100
So from that moment, I decided to believe that I'm beautiful, whatever condition I am in.
02:47:04.760
But you said you got pimples and you gained weight.
02:47:12.100
So now I don't want to judge myself for things I'm going through.
02:47:15.660
Are you less beautiful or more beautiful after, or more attractive rather, not beautiful?
02:47:22.560
Are you less attractive or more attractive with the weight gain and the acne pimples?
02:47:34.320
So you could still be beautiful despite these things.
02:47:40.920
Are you more beautiful now that you have pimples and you've gained weight than you were before?
02:47:53.420
You're not even comparing yourself to yourself?
02:47:59.680
So wait, were you at 10 before the weight gain and the pimples?
02:48:03.160
So when first I gained weight and got this face issue, I judged myself a lot.
02:48:10.240
So after judging, I made conclusion recently, like maybe two weeks ago, that I don't want
02:48:16.420
to judge myself because how I look or if I gain weight.
02:48:22.840
So that's why now I want to feel myself 10 every day.
02:48:27.240
But were you at 10 before the weight gain and the acne?
02:48:35.680
You said you moved here, what, three months ago, or three months ago, was it?
02:48:44.120
But before you moved here, where did you move from?
02:48:57.300
But retrospectively, looking back, what would you rate yourself?
02:49:07.080
If you had to rate yourself five months ago, before the weight gain, before the pimples,
02:49:34.280
You're more attractive now after you've gained weight and you have acne.
02:49:45.440
Do you want to lose weight or gain more weight?
02:49:48.620
I'm right now on my nutrition, so I'm thinking about losing weight, but not because of weight.
02:50:07.680
Because you said, well, back then when I didn't have acne this bad, I didn't weigh this much.
02:50:15.420
But now that I've gained weight and I have acne, I'm now more attractive.
02:50:26.020
When it comes to what you find attractive in men, do you find men who are physically fit?
02:50:34.300
Just physically fit men, do you find them more attractive or do you find obese men more attractive?
02:50:47.000
And they have all the same qualities, but one is physically fit.
02:50:54.800
But so when men are physically fit, and let's just throw in half clear skin, good skin, whatever, they're more attractive?
02:51:16.220
I look more for confidence, so I don't look for looks.
02:51:26.300
If I look at the person, I don't go and ask, how do you rate yourself?
02:51:29.740
So I don't, if he is confident, or he or she confident, and he likes how he looks, or she looks, I'm okay with that.
02:51:43.820
Do you think that gaining weight and having bad skin tends to make people more attractive or less attractive?
02:52:11.260
Every person is personal, so I don't want to make a conclusion for other person.
02:52:17.540
Like, this is only how I treat myself and how I look for myself.
02:52:21.540
So I don't, I don't want to answer this question.
02:52:28.520
You said you'd prefer the physically fit men to weigh less because you would be, you would find them more physically attractive if they were physically fit as opposed to overweight.
02:52:45.560
Again, how the other person feel, I don't, I see what you're trying to do.
02:52:50.640
Okay, so you said you don't know how the other person feels.
02:52:55.680
Do you think men generally prefer women who are overweight or women who are physically fit?
02:53:08.080
Well, even if you haven't asked men this, what do you think?
02:53:26.740
You don't need to, for example, I don't need to necessarily ask like a sample size of people to have a inkling towards what, the way something might be.
02:53:51.980
Why are you trying, what are you trying to do with me?
02:54:00.920
It doesn't appear, it doesn't affect other person.
02:54:07.720
Okay, then do you think men prefer women with clear skin or who have severe acne?
02:54:20.920
If you were to ask me, for example, do I think women, uh, I'm trying to think how I, do I think women are attracted to men with confidence?
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Um, don't you think it's important to know what men like in order to be able to operate in, in life and find a partner?
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That's maybe, what should I figure out with other men and ask him?
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So you can't, so if I were to ask you, if you just had to guess, you can't even ask any men.
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Do men prefer, uh, women with a healthy body fat percentage or obese women?
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You wouldn't even be able to take a crack at answering this question?
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I assume that men will prefer a healthy woman, whatever healthy for, how she feels, like she feel healthy herself in her body.
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So I, you're just going around, like round and round.
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A man can only care about how you feel once he's initially attracted to you and started dating you and then gets to know you and starts to care about you.
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No, I'm just saying, like, men are very visual.
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I feel like with women, attraction can grow for a man.
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There has to be initial attraction for them to care.
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That's why men go on first dates if they're not attracted.
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They're probably not going to get to know you more and not see you again.
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Not, not all of men, but I, that is my opinion.
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So you just can't pretend attraction doesn't play a part, basically, is what I'm saying to her.
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Like, she's saying, you know, this is how I feel.
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But, you know, unless a man is your boyfriend or your partner, he doesn't really care how you feel if he's a stranger.
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And to get to that place, he has to first initially be attracted to you.
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And so, do you think that there are things that men need to do better when it comes to having a girlfriend or getting women?
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And do you think physical attraction is important when it comes to dating for both men and women?
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But, I mean, whatever he, you know, when a person is healthy, like, I'm okay about mental health.
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So, if he's mentally healthy, I can go on a date and know him better and stuff like that.
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But I'm not putting how he looks, like, if he has some body stuff.
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But I'm more attracted how he can listen, how open he is.
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So, do you think men care about physical appearance when it comes to women?
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I'm just still confused by the whole, well, okay.
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You said, well, you can be overweight but still be healthy.
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But if the person cares about himself and cares about his body, of course, it's plus, it should, like, I consider that.
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And right now, I feel that I am working on my confidence.
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And this is what is important right now for me.
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I mean, I don't, I, as soon as we can talk and have a good conversation and we have same vision or stuff more, that we can feel each other.
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Like, we have some chemistry and if he's confident and he's funny and he doesn't look, like, perfectly, but he can entertain me and, like, make me fun and laugh, of course, I will think about him as a, like, husband material.
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It's more about having connection, deep connection in conversations.
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So, I don't have specific, like, 10, 10 body, like, I only talk with that.
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Final question on this and I'm going to kind of move it on a little bit.
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Do you think men prefer humble women or cocky women?
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If you choose, to choose between them, I will choose humble.
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But it's me, like, saying, I don't want you to think us, like, it's my humble answer.
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If I said that I think I'm the most beautiful man in the world, would you agree with me?
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The most physically attractive man, would you agree with me?
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But you're not feeling 10 already to begin with.
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You don't feel 10, so I don't feel 10 from you.
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But if I said I was a 10, that would make me a 10, right?
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Wouldn't it be more attractive, because all of you said, I mean, well, wouldn't it be more
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attractive than a guy, you know, operated within the realm of reality?
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Wouldn't this be more attractive than a guy that, I'm sure all of you at this table know
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He thinks he's fucking really good looking, but he's not.
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He thinks he's super fucking cool, but he's not.
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These girls know exactly what I'm talking about.
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But so, y'all have that experience of a guy like that, but I don't know.
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Now, I know you're not a natural beauty, but I think with the right clothes and the right
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Y'all are on par with like the most beautiful women in the world.
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You don't have to think like that, so, or either of us.
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But so, okay, you might feel, you guys might feel uncomfortable that we're talking about
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this, and you might feel under attack that I'm bringing this up.
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But so, one of the really big issues that I see in the dating marketplace is that a lot
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of women conflate sexual interest from men as dating interest.
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And so, what ends up happening is you'll get all these likes and DMs and think you have
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millions of options and the luxury to be picky.
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And maybe you get hit up by a guy who's more attractive than you.
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And you think, well, hold on, this guy is this attractive, I have sexual access to him,
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ergo, that is like where I fall in the hierarchy in the dating marketplace.
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So, most of these guys, they just want you for sex.
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And so, the other component here is that if you have an inaccurate self-assessment of your
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own physical attractiveness, you're going to be chasing men who are, no offense, quite
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And so, what's the, what's, but here's the difference, though.
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If I step to a girl who's out of my league, instant rejection.
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You, as women, can get sex and dates and attention from men that are out of your league, and
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They'll keep you around as friends with benefits for weeks, months, who knows.
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And I don't agree with this, because me, personally, my position is I think you shouldn't sleep
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with somebody unless you have an intention of being in a relationship with them.
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Me, personally, I have no interest in one-night stands, or sleeping with a girl once, or sleeping
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with a girl that I don't see a potential for a long-term relationship.
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And there's a lot of very attractive men who have the capacity and the capability of sleeping
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with a lot of women, but have no interest in committing to them.
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I don't agree with it, but it's just the reality.
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And so, women will find themselves in situationships, never getting commitment from men.
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And then the other kind of negative component I see here is that because of this, or because
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of a sort of inaccurate assessment of your own physical attractiveness, the men who are
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actually in your league, who would actually give you commitment, who will love you, who
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will take care of you, who will give you marriage, you think you're settling for them.
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You'll spend your 20s chasing after these hyper-attractive men, whether it's their status,
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their money, their looks, personality, what have you.
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And then finally, you'll never, you will most likely never get commitment from them.
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Then in your late 20s, 30s, time to, okay, I guess I got to settle.
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And then you'll settle, even though it's not actually settling.
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You won't be attracted to him, even though you probably should, because he's actually in
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This is also harmed by the fact that women can elevate their appearance through plastic
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surgery and makeup, something that's not really readily available for men, although
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there are some ways that men can improve their physical appearance.
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So you, in addition to that, you will rank yourself, like, filter, makeup, boom, this
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You don't always rank yourself, well, this is when I look without makeup and unflattering
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No one wants a relationship with a woman who lies or a defective mind.
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So I think there's a pretty big differential here, too, when it comes to dating.
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So I would argue for most men, if we can sleep with a girl, there's a very high likelihood
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If I sleep with a girl, I'm fairly confident I can get her in a relationship.
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It's not always the case that, like, how confident are you that just because you can sleep with
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Yeah, you're talking about box theory, which I completely agree with.
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When you first meet a man, usually they put you in one of three boxes.
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Like, wifey material, which we all want to be in that box, but that's very rare.
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Date material, like, I'll date her or I'm just going to hook up with her.
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And so women have a hard time differentiating that.
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And then, yes, they waste years in situationships.
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I completely agree with the first part of what you said, absolutely.
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It's up to women to discern what box you're in with that particular man.
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I mean, honestly, at the end of the day, and women don't like it, but we don't, I mean,
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Like, you're right, women kind of can have sex with who they want.
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And if your goal is to be married and have kids, like it was my goal and I'm at that goal,
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then you got to not waste your time with the wrong guys who are going to waste your time
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in the wrong box for years and years and years.
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So you don't get to, you know, late 30s, early 40s, calling me, crying, I want to have a kid,
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But I mean, look, not all women do this, of course, but I do think it's a recipe for disaster
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if we're gassing up women to have an unrealistic self-assessment of where they stand in the dating marketplace.
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For example, let's say you're trying to sell your house and you think, well, my house is worth $2 million.
03:09:46.940
Well, the market dictates what your house is worth.
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So if you're trying to sell your house for $2 million, but it's worth $1 million, it's going to sit on the market.
03:10:08.760
I deal with, like, sorry, like delusional women all day, all day in my DMs.
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Like, I probably got 50 DMs a day of women, you know, I joined your database.
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I'm like, there's no guarantee of being contacted.
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It just seems like maybe we can go through it, like, really quick.
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Well, for you, are you looking for, how tall do you want your guy to be?
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Do you know how much money you want him to make?
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Any other characteristics that are, you need in the man?
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Like, I think relationship is, like, I feel myself good, right?
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So other person should be happy with himself too.
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And we can together create something even more.
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So I want to, um, interesting, funny, like, open.
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When you say you think you're, you're funny, do you mean you have a sense of humor?
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Well, so sense of humor is, I think, the capacity to detect humor.
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Like, sense of humor would be like, I recognize something that's funny.
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But you might not be able to tell a joke or make somebody laugh for the, it's impossible.
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But you do, you do consider yourself to be funny.
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And it's a deal breaker if the guy's not funny?
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Why do y'all want us to be, why do y'all want men to be your entertainment?
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And men who can make you laugh tend to out-compete those that don't.
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Because I will set a woman up with a great guy.
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Like, honestly, I really stand behind my clients.
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No, I get to know them, and I don't take someone on unless I feel they're a good person.
03:13:03.840
No, right, but I'm saying they're great on paper, but they're not funny, for example.
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The woman will be like, well, I just didn't feel chemistry on the dates.
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Like, you can't bring yourself to, like, go to Nobu for a second date?
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Like, please, like, give him a second chance, you know?
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There's not very many men these days that even want a serious relationship.
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And you can't bring yourself to give this 6'1", extremely wealthy guy who likes you and is handsome another chance.
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He has to just be hilarious and entertaining on the first date.
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And a lot of women, they pass up all these guys over and over again, and then they're like, there's no good guys out there.
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And then also, I mean, also, couldn't it be the case with some of these men that, you know, maybe they're nervous on the date, right?
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I mean, honestly, I talk about this on my Instagram.
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I almost ruined my own life and didn't go on a second date with my husband.
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Like, I absolutely need to give this another chance.
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Like, it was actually a great first date, but, like, I think I was used to, like, as most women are, used to, like, the butterflies and the chemistry.
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That's actually your nervous system saying this guy isn't really good for you.
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And so I was like, you know, I'm going to give it a second chance.
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And he even said, he goes, I was nervous on our first date.
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And it's just too much pressure women put on a first date.
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And the guy that's entertaining, that's super funny, that's the wrong guy.
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That's, that's, that's generally, that's the wrong guy to be with.
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Do you encounter this a lot with your, you're a professional matchmaker?
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I mean, do you encounter this a lot with the women that, you know, you set them up with these men who are just great, great on paper, but they're like, ah, I didn't, he was, he was great.
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It went well, but I didn't really feel the click.
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And I'm like, okay, I mean, I would urge you to give the guy another chance.
03:15:32.260
Like, I would at least go on three dates and see how you feel after that and then talk to me.
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And I mean, at that point, I can't help you when you call me in five years and you're 43 and single and want a kid.
03:15:56.680
Anissa, I'm going to have you read these, okay?
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If you remove all of the preamble women prattle before the guests answer, you could cover the same ground in 90 minutes.
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Andrew looks like a shark while Brian drops knowledge.
03:16:32.620
Andrew looks like a shark while Brian drops knowledge.
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I think he's talking about box theory that I was saying, but I know what box I'm in.
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I'm a wife and I'm married to a 6'7 amazing guy who, yeah, he's really tall.
03:16:58.520
It's all fun and games dating the 6'7 guy until you're pregnant with twins twice about to literally die and can't even walk.
03:17:08.180
I have two sets of natural twins, yeah, fraternal twins.
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They're all boys a year and a half apart, yeah.
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Yeah, they can be whatever they want, but yeah.
03:17:30.440
So the box theory is like there's the wife material and hookup material, basically essentially.
03:17:35.340
Yeah, like wife material, girl – like I think there's a girlfriend box where the guy's like let me like be – like let me kind of like waste her time.
03:17:45.300
And I don't even think like the marriage box – not necessarily marriage because I've watched the show before and I'm with you, Brian.
03:17:51.400
Like I don't necessarily think people need to get married.
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People can be together and in a serious relationship and have a partnership.
03:17:57.760
But basically like a girlfriend box of just kind of wasting a girl's time and he's not serious about her.
03:18:15.520
Hey, dude, thank you for the big $200 soup chat.
03:18:21.400
Would you date a 5'10", blue collar guy making 90 plus, 90K plus a year, or a guy 6'4 guy making 60K a year?
03:18:33.000
Okay, so 5'10", making 90K a year, or 6'4 making 60K a year?
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I would say the 6'4 guy making 60K a year because he could always make more money, but you can't really just like grow taller.
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Wait, Kylie, do you have like a clip in your hand or?
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I think for me, it's either or, it just depends for me.
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I'm already dating a 6'2 guy that makes more than 90K a year.
03:19:37.260
I don't put the value on people based on their height or amount of money that they make.
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But when I was dating, I did not discriminate about these things.
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I'm 5'10", and that just, like, I just happened to.
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But I wasn't, that wasn't a deal breaker for me.
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So, I mean, honestly, 90K, 60K, it's not a massive difference.
03:20:10.700
And I don't really think you should factor money into dating.
03:20:15.600
But you should focus more on connection and who the man is as a person.
03:20:21.760
And if you're so concerned about money, focus on his earning potential.
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I think I need to talk with them and then decide.
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But if not, I will pick 6'4", because you can always grow together, definitely.
03:21:06.860
Going around the table, do you think you will be better looking in 10 years' time, starting with you?
03:21:14.440
All right, what about, better looking in 20 years' time?
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You're 18, so better looking at 28, better looking at 38?
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And then do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
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And will you be better looking in 20 years' time?
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Because there are so many things that are going to come up, for sure.
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But 46, are you better looking now at 46 than you were at 18?
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So I don't even dispute as you get older, you can become more attractive personality-wise
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But on the physical realm, which is what we're talking about.
03:23:32.280
I would say that she's physically gorgeous but she's a terrible person.
03:23:44.780
I'll even grant to you that a woman who's average looking or even below average looking
03:23:51.420
but who has a remarkable personality is in totality more attractive than a beautiful woman who's awful.
03:24:02.760
But when we're narrowing down, when we're getting into specificity.
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So I'm talking about beauty is the combination.
03:24:22.740
Yes, and physical beauty projects through the beauty on the inside of the person.
03:24:28.560
I'll even grant that, for example, a man or a woman who is smiling and has a positive disposition,
03:24:36.260
it will manifest itself in appraisals of their physical attractiveness.
03:24:44.420
But it's not enough to, like, tip the scales, really.
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Not the other people would feel, but how I would feel about myself, correct?
03:25:01.220
Not how you would feel, how you, I hope you would think, with reason and logic.
03:25:05.900
Yeah, and I'm thinking that the person that I would be beautiful when I'm 60 and 70 and
03:25:15.820
So we put you in a room with your, you said better looking in 10 years.
03:25:26.220
We're going to put you in a room with your 26-year-old self, right?
03:25:38.200
There's 100 men in there, different background, different age.
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Which one of the two women is going to be able to out-compete the other when it comes
03:25:54.360
to getting romantic interest from the men in the room?
03:25:57.520
So the question is how I evaluate myself or how others evaluate me?
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Definitely they would choose somebody who is younger.
03:26:24.820
You see, my value system does not go with the looks.
03:26:27.980
My value system goes with the combination who the person is on the inside as well.
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I'm talking about who I am as a person on the inside.
03:26:51.140
So you're saying you were just a terrible person at 26?
03:26:53.820
I was going through very big transitions in my life.
03:27:09.920
But was your trauma so severe that it was, like, visible?
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Like, if you were just walking to the grocery store when you were 26, was it, like, palpable?
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Was it visible to, like, someone who just walked by you?
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Like, were you crying your way to the grocery store?
03:27:34.900
So, assuming these 100 men in this room didn't actually have five minutes to interact with either of you, and they were making appraisals on your physical appearance, which of the two would outcompete?
03:27:44.540
The guys would choose younger and hotter physically-wise.
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But this is not how I feel, like, about myself.
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Is it how others would judge me or how I judge myself?
03:27:59.320
Going around the table, better looking in 10 years' time?
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I'm just, like, lost because we work in matchmaking.
03:28:14.920
Usually, you present a profile of a woman with photos and a bio.
03:28:19.400
And if the man is not attracted, he's going to pass.
03:28:22.200
I don't care if I say to him, oh, but she's a great person.
03:28:29.780
So, like, you can say all this, but, like, come on.
03:28:32.000
To put it in the shell, to make the shell, that's easy.
03:28:47.680
So, when you've presented a woman to one of your clients and he says, I'm not attracted.
03:28:52.420
When you say she's a great person, has he ever changed his mind?
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I can make any woman look beautiful on the outside in a matter of hour.
03:29:01.700
Has he ever changed his mind when you said, but she's a great person and she's done a lot of growth?
03:29:05.920
I do not present my females based on just personality.
03:29:12.460
If a guy passes on photos, do you try to convince him and say, like, if he, and you say, oh, she has a great personality, has he ever changed his mind?
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Because, as you know, I mean, there's beautiful girls.
03:29:32.200
If he wasn't attracted, he said, I'm not attracted.
03:29:34.680
And you're like, well, she's grown a lot, she's a great personality.
03:29:46.720
Men need to, they are making a decision on what is in front of them.
03:29:50.540
So, but if I put the makeup on that girl, put the right clothes, and that, it will be completely different.
03:30:01.780
You mean make the girl hotter than he can change the mind?
03:30:05.040
If you put the makeup on the girl, if you put, if you style her hair, if you put the right clothes on her, she definitely will get a couple of points.
03:30:14.800
But, but think about what your argument is here, right?
03:30:18.540
You're saying, so if you make the girl hotter, she's going to be more appealing, right?
03:30:23.800
Yeah, but men, yes, they need to, they are making choice based on what is in front of them.
03:30:31.620
If you put the makeup on her and style her hair.
03:30:41.340
They're looking for the potential of good mother, right?
03:30:45.020
Here's the things they don't, here's the things they don't usually care about.
03:30:48.040
They don't usually care about your career trajectory.
03:30:49.820
They don't usually care about your girl hobbies.
03:30:52.240
They usually don't give a shit about any of that, right?
03:30:55.160
They care about kind of some feminine qualities and then how hot you are.
03:31:00.160
So it's not, I mean, it's not rocket science really for men.
03:31:13.800
But you just said initially he's going to pass if he's not initially attracted.
03:31:22.220
It's not easy if the guy, look, men have types, okay?
03:31:25.520
I have clients, they have all different types, all right?
03:31:34.700
They're like, don't present me anyone else that doesn't look like this.
03:31:39.980
He's into very slender, size two, brunette, exotic looking women.
03:31:44.540
And what is your strategy you are using for those type of guys as a matchmaker?
03:31:47.860
I'm going to present them, the women that look like that,
03:31:50.240
and then based on their personalities, who would be the best match?
03:31:55.500
And actually I encourage you to be with a man whose type you are.
03:32:01.120
So you gave a man just physical look, just physical look, what he's looking for.
03:32:06.320
I gave him a profile to read about her and tell him about her and I know her.
03:32:10.180
I have clients who are plastic surgeons, and those are the most freaking difficult ones,
03:32:14.320
that they have to have a certain symmetrical face, symmetrical this, symmetrical that.
03:32:20.960
So you can't be like, I feel this way, and I'm going to be more attractive in 20 years.
03:32:26.540
But when we're talking about the type of relationship that I create as a matchmaker,
03:32:34.500
I understand you want to create that, but I think you're lying to yourself
03:32:37.260
about the initial stages of our process, which is a man has to be initially attracted to give a fuck.
03:32:49.820
You're saying you can change her, I can put makeup on her?
03:32:52.560
That's easy, but personality, you cannot change that.
03:32:56.280
So I'm looking at the core of the person, because I know the physical look I can entice very easily.
03:33:03.740
Even if he passes and says, no, initially, I'm not attracted to this woman,
03:33:07.680
you think you can present him the same woman a month later with makeup and clothes?
03:33:20.080
And men, they could not even imagine that this is the same person.
03:33:29.100
If she presented you a woman and you passed, you're just like, no, I'm just not initially
03:33:33.980
I'm sure she's a great person, but I'm not initially attracted.
03:33:45.280
And I show him the same woman, different photos.
03:33:51.500
But I am, but I am always honest with my clients.
03:33:55.700
I say, okay, but this girl, you actually initially passed on.
03:34:01.040
Well, how substantial, I mean, look, a woman could, in terms of her presentation when it
03:34:07.080
came to like how she, her look or whatever, she could change it and then the appraisal
03:34:15.400
To be charitable, but then generally speaking, yes, I would agree here that, I mean, the initial
03:34:20.120
appraisal is probably going to be consistent with any secondary appraisals.
03:34:31.440
But if I, that's what I asked you the question, like she is gorgeous on the outside and ugly
03:34:39.940
But only when they're initially attracted and they get to know you.
03:34:43.660
But what I'm saying, that the initial attraction to entice it, enhance it in a woman is easy.
03:34:52.900
You can enhance it, but you can't change a man's type.
03:34:55.240
So in my opinion, if my client passes, I'm going to respect that.
03:35:04.480
Well, anyways, maybe we can come back to it later.
03:35:16.520
And that's why, ladies, you have to marry an older husband with an age gap.
03:35:21.440
Yeah, because then you're always the young, hot one to him.
03:35:31.880
You'd be surprised women say no to me all the time.
03:35:34.180
They won't even date someone 10 years older than them.
03:35:37.640
If they're 40, they won't go out with a 50-year-old.
03:35:51.220
But ultimately, I don't think it's good for your self-esteem.
03:35:54.340
I know in my relationship, I'm always the young, hot, pretty one.
03:36:05.280
I think it's a good dynamic to be with someone older.
03:36:07.440
Because societally, I'm 37, at 47, no, I'm not going to feel as good as I do now.
03:36:20.700
Yeah, I said my relationship makes me feel pretty and the younger one because I am factually younger by eight years than my husband.
03:36:37.440
Listen, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it.
03:36:42.640
If you give me a second, I can explain my relationship.
03:36:47.480
Like, unfortunately, that is just a fact of life in this patriarchal society.
03:36:55.040
So I think if you want to go against, if you want to have the best odds in your favor of your relationship lasting, you should have an older partner.
03:37:10.720
Yeah, I was just, you remember the part where I said, I'll explain why, and then he cut me off?
03:37:19.440
The reason is, is because you're basically doing an exchange, right?
03:37:23.800
You're saying, okay, if a 20-year-old girl goes after a man, let's say he's 30, 35, something like that, there's a 15-year age gap there.
03:37:39.880
Yeah, so the counter-argument against the age gap is that men like this are predatory because they're going after, you know, dumb young women who are just too stupid to make their choices because they're freshly 18, whatever the fuck.
03:37:53.300
I never said my husband's 60-year date, someone much older.
03:37:59.460
Mine's eight years, so you're changing it into, like, predatory 15-year gaps.
03:38:04.020
Why would that be a problem, though, if there was a 15-year gap?
03:38:06.620
I have a 16-year-old difference with my husband.
03:38:11.660
I'm just saying that's not what I was talking about, though.
03:38:19.680
I feel like 20 years is different than eight, 10.
03:38:26.180
Yeah, I know it's different, but, like, what's our distinction here?
03:38:32.060
Basically, women get resources, men get young, hot chick, right?
03:38:36.120
Well, men, would you agree that, like, men are generally after younger women?
03:38:39.980
And for a reason, because younger women are more attractive in this society.
03:38:51.460
If you believe that evolution is true, then why wouldn't they go for fertile women?
03:38:55.880
And fertile women are not going to be old women, they're going to be young women.
03:38:58.380
So, of course, they're going to be attracted to that, right?
03:39:02.880
What I'm saying, though, is that the argument against the age gap is that these older men are predatory.
03:39:08.040
I was giving you an opportunity to say, no, they're not predatory.
03:39:12.620
Yeah, but what's going on is that younger women know exactly what they're doing, going after them, because they have much more stability and resources, right?
03:39:21.420
They're not just young, dumb, stupid women who don't know nothing, and the evil, predatory man is going after them.
03:39:31.560
Yeah, so you see, if you would have given me a chance to explain before you jump to your emotional conclusions like you always do, I was giving you a great layup, and you just, you fucked it up.
03:39:46.620
It would have come to nothing but agreements, but, you know, you've got to let me talk, right?
03:40:14.500
I was saying to her the other day, I was like, I'm so scared.
03:40:22.340
Especially when you become a mom, it's extremely fulfilling.
03:40:25.160
It's lovely, but you change your whole identity, your entire looks and identity change.
03:41:13.180
Hopefully, I will be feel better, like, for 10, and physically and emotionally, but I don't
03:41:28.860
I think I'll be, just feel myself more confident, 66.
03:41:37.040
So, you think you were more attractive when you were 26?
03:41:45.520
26, I was, I think, I was like a girl who don't know what she wanted.
03:41:54.980
And, you know, like, now I think I feel myself, like, really great with 36.
03:42:07.440
The person who has a base inside, they will feel comfortable no matter which age.
03:42:11.660
That core you were talking about and all this stuff.
03:42:14.120
People who don't have the base, they will be scared of their looks and changes.
03:42:20.800
So, did we get an answer on the better looking in 10 years' time?
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I had to step away, so I'll apologize to the viewers.
03:42:36.320
So, will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 40?
03:42:40.500
Will you be better looking in 20 years' time at 50?
03:42:43.140
Will you be better looking in 30 years' time at 60?
03:42:46.540
Will you be better looking in 40 years' time at 70?
03:43:05.340
Would you be better looking if tomorrow a meteorite hit next to you and splashed you with hot lava and it melted half of your face and they reconstructed as best they could.
03:43:18.500
But, basically, one of the eyes was constantly popped out of its socket and the entire cheek was melted off and you could see your teeth right through it and your tongue was hanging out of the side and you always spoke slurred from then on forevermore.
03:43:32.520
I think we have a different definition of beautiful.
03:43:42.460
Answer Andrew's question, but then also define beautiful.
03:43:45.780
So, eye popping out, will you be more attractive?
03:43:54.700
Yeah, well, I mean, my question was, yeah, half your face is melted off, your tongue's sticking out of the side of your teeth, you just have a socket where your eye used to be.
03:44:06.640
I will feel horrible and I will not think about how beautiful I look like.
03:44:11.100
I will have different thoughts if this really happens.
03:44:17.820
In 97 you have Depends and like a little thing of milk next to you, you're going to feel really hot at 97 when someone comes in and is changing your Depends?
03:44:35.520
Were you better looking 10 years ago when you were 20?
03:44:38.640
Is that your, like, I know you're kind of trolling or whatever, you just want to be kind of, what's the word for it, Andrew?
03:44:51.200
Well, I mean, in this case, so your beauty standard is just based off of how you feel, right?
03:44:59.200
Okay, so you wake up on a Tuesday, you feel like shit, you're what?
03:45:03.320
What does your beauty, like, on your worst day, the day that you feel the worst, what are you on that day?
03:45:14.880
I more care about the days I feel more depressed and I don't want to talk about anything.
03:45:29.760
Yeah, but like hot wise, what are you on your worst day, the day where you feel the worst about yourself, what are you then?
03:45:43.420
Yeah, right, so what would you rate yourself then, when you feel like that?
03:45:51.220
So, what we've established is that you have no standard for what is beautiful, right?
03:45:55.580
All that your standard is, is just internally how you feel, and how you feel is supposed to reflect...
03:46:01.240
So how does how you feel reflect the reality of what is true?
03:46:11.000
It should go inside me to feel it, just how I feel.
03:46:17.020
Are there women on planet Earth who are prettier than you, even one?
03:46:26.400
Oh, you don't have any beauty standard for women at all?
03:46:32.720
Andrew, she actually does, because earlier when I asked the question, have you ever seen
03:46:42.340
She answered in the affirmative that yes, she has seen a beautiful woman with a mid-guy, which means she can make determinations as to physical attractiveness.
03:46:52.820
So apparently you can't judge whether or not a woman is attractive, and if a man is less attractive than her.
03:46:59.600
Otherwise, how could you ever see a woman who is more attractive than the man she's with, unless you're judging that one is more attractive than the other?
03:47:08.520
When you asked that question, I was thinking a lot, and I didn't, like, raise my head right away.
03:47:14.320
I was thinking, and this is what conclusion I made recently about beauty.
03:47:23.060
Again, I said I went through some mental, like, it was hard after moving, so I feel judged myself.
03:47:32.960
I was judging myself because of my look, and it didn't help to me, so that's why I changed the strategy for myself, so that's why I'm rating myself for 10.
03:47:44.480
It's only my opinion, and this is how I think, and I see how you're trying to ask these questions, but...
03:47:51.400
Okay, well, let me ask you a different way, then.
03:47:53.460
Let me ask you a different question altogether.
03:48:06.940
Okay, so let's assume for a second that you were on a stage, and there was 500 men, and they had to rate your beauty against other beautiful women who were on the stage.
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Do you think that those men would all give you a 10?
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Why do you think they'd give you a five or a six?
03:48:50.080
I just come up with middle, something middle, because I'm sure that somebody will like it, somebody doesn't like it.
03:48:56.920
So you think men consider your looks to be average?
03:49:21.400
Other people can think about me, about my look, whatever they want to think.
03:49:31.980
But collectively, you said they would rate you a five.
03:49:47.840
The average from zero to ten, the middle will be five.
03:50:20.840
Now, I know you're not a natural beauty, but I think with the right clothes and the right
03:50:36.500
Will you be better looking in ten years' time at 46?
03:50:43.160
Were you better looking at 26 than you are now?
03:51:17.000
I mean, not for her, but maybe we could pull up the Instagram.
03:51:20.760
You're fine if we pull up your Instagram and you have some pictures from like seven years
03:51:26.960
I think from 2015, so it's not exactly ten years, but...
03:51:36.260
So it's not exactly ten years ago, but she's 30 now, so scroll down a little bit.
03:52:58.680
What about the one where she's in the black, in the middle there, in the middle of the street,
03:53:14.380
So you're better looking now than you were there?
03:53:21.820
What about the one just next to it, to the left, the better looking now than there?
03:53:33.880
Well, that concludes my inquiry as to this matter.
03:54:19.500
So what's the motivation there for, what's the motivation there for the lower back tattoo?
03:55:04.560
Oh, quickly, let's do Twitch, Nick, and then Discord.
03:55:09.300
When it comes to our Discord, guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
03:55:22.520
Yo, Duren, thank you for the gifted subs, by the way.
03:55:25.420
Drop us a follow on the Prime sub if you have one.
03:55:28.180
It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
03:55:30.340
You just link your Amazon to, if you have an Amazon Prime, you link it to your Twitch.
03:55:35.580
So drop us a follow, guys, and a Prime sub if you enjoy the videos.
03:55:52.880
It's actually been a while since we've had a kickout.
03:55:55.340
I do my best to not have to kick people off the show.
03:56:01.360
So if you can, guys, we're going to post the BTS of the, it was vulgar and despicable.
03:56:22.520
Mods, if you can spam the link in the chat for those who want to check it out.
03:56:28.000
It's going to be in the behind the scenes folder.
03:56:43.580
We got some interesting things we got to get into with you guys related to Fintom, some
03:56:50.960
So first I just want to pull up, Kylie, your TikTok.
03:56:57.660
Can you sort by, let's do, why don't we sort by popular?
03:57:06.560
Is there music on the first one or is it like speaking?
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When my ex cheated on me and the girl made these TikToks in my car.
03:58:00.900
Is that how she ended up in your car making TikToks because she was your friend?
03:58:07.580
No, I was out of town, and he had a DUI, so his truck was impounded, and I let him use
03:58:14.900
my car to get to and from work, and so that's what he was using my car for, but I had no idea
03:58:24.880
Let's back up, though, because I'm really curious about this.
03:58:31.640
And I'm guessing that you were subscribed to her TikTok, right?
03:58:38.440
I wasn't, like, crazy close with her, but another.
03:58:46.000
How is she making TikToks in your car, and you don't notice that?
03:58:56.880
Oh, so, like, yeah, so people who watch both your content, one of them sent it over and
03:59:03.000
Is that how you found out that he was banging this chick?
03:59:04.860
Yes, and after we broke up, he had posted pictures of some girl, like, bent over on my
03:59:12.440
car, and I had no idea who it was until someone sent me the TikTok.
03:59:42.760
I turned the audio off so they shouldn't be able to come up.
04:00:00.260
Our pay pig is taking me and my bestie shopping today.
04:00:03.180
We canceled our tickets home because we want to stay in LA for longer, but we have no clothes
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left, so obviously our bitch is going to buy us some more clothes.
04:00:35.480
It's just get everything, get whatever you want.
04:00:55.120
Oh, I thought that you were saying that was the friend that...
04:01:04.900
Pig is buying us matching product purses today.
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Scroll down a little bit just so I can see what these are.
04:01:44.660
When my best friend convinced me to break up with my boyfriend just to turn around and
04:01:52.880
Best friend convinced me to break up with my boyfriend just to...
04:01:59.820
I thought you said that you weren't that close to her.
04:02:10.260
Another boyfriend of yours cheated on you with another one of your friends?
04:02:17.060
So, how many of your friends did this guy plow?
04:02:37.400
Or did you just misspeak earlier and the person you're referencing as your best friend
04:02:53.840
I mean, I don't have, like, video proof, so I don't know.
04:02:56.700
I don't really care to know, but I just know...
04:02:59.580
Well, why did you say that she was screwing around with him, if you don't know?
04:03:05.880
Because they were together, and they were hanging out one-on-one, and she's my friend.
04:03:44.460
Wondering, this is the mid-white boy Shorty wants to fight over.
04:04:35.080
I'm going to give you a lot of money with a blue paella.
04:05:16.280
I just want to make sure here, Kylie, that I get this straight.
04:05:21.400
This dude banged you and two of your friends, including your best friend.
04:06:07.420
Would it be safe to say that you got domed in this relationship?
04:06:23.060
I mean, it sounds like, you know, he's porking the whole circle, right?
04:06:29.640
I mean, it sounds like he was kind of running the gamut on you girls, wasn't he?
04:06:54.980
Um, when I was 16, I was, like, going through some stuff.
04:07:27.460
And then, so how did you approach him about the housing situation?
04:07:35.220
I walked up to him and asked if I could move in.
04:07:44.240
By the way, were you dating him while you've been doing, like, the Fyndom stuff?
04:07:55.640
I was, but my account really took off after me and him broke up.
04:08:16.500
All you need to do is pick up a homeless chick off the street and start banging her friends.
04:08:41.100
He must have crazy game or a big D or something.
04:08:53.940
He robbed me, and he's still struggling to pay his bills.
04:09:04.080
He also stole my motorcycle and robbed some stuff from my apartment.
04:09:15.160
So, when we were together, he added my card to his Apple wallet, and I had told him to
04:09:24.940
And I didn't notice until, like, a month later when I was looking at my bank, and I saw that
04:09:30.380
there was, like, $200 leaving my account every single day for about a month straight.
04:09:34.960
And when I looked at the date, it was, like, literally right when we and him completely cut
04:09:46.020
So, to get this right, all of your guys who came in to give you all that money were actually
04:10:02.700
Then, on top of that, banged two of your friends and stole your motorcycle.
04:10:49.520
That was quite a coincidence that his penis was slipping into all these women just by pure
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He was just walking down the street, lightning struck, and bam, his penis went into multiple
04:11:15.520
If I am like who I am now and I had met him, I would never date him.
04:11:26.140
Um, so he just, he just, he just, he worked out.
04:11:30.020
But I'm a little confused because you, you moved in with him, but you weren't dating.
04:11:33.680
So you weren't homeless because you were living with him.
04:11:45.800
But you said it started out just like a housemate situation.
04:11:49.420
So you didn't, it wasn't like, well, I'm going to start dating him and like use him
04:11:53.960
Like you moved in platonic, you were paying him rent and you were living with him.
04:11:58.540
So when, when you already established your security when it comes to not being homeless.
04:12:05.360
So I don't think we can use you being homeless as justification for wanting to date him.
04:12:09.280
Or was he like giving you a really good deal on rent?
04:12:13.700
I just know that me now, I would never date him.
04:12:39.800
What I was going to say was all the girls, all the girls that he's getting with after
04:12:47.860
me, like Jade and the one that was in my car, anyone, literally anyone, any man ever could
04:12:57.640
Nick, can you pull up the specs on a Shure SM7B please?
04:13:06.240
Anyway, I said anyone could have sex with her and that goes for the other girl.
04:13:13.020
Oh, well, there's some men in the chat who are asking for the numbers.
04:13:29.100
It's almost like trading sex for a room, right?
04:13:41.060
All you sims white knighting for these women and this is the dude they all fight for.
04:15:44.220
And it isn't, I think like porn stars wish they could have that, right?
04:16:15.980
Wild, you ate her up without an effort the way I've ever once been.
04:17:06.180
There's actually people like that in the world.
04:17:25.140
I'm only 18 years old and made six figures in two months.
04:17:28.640
On track to buying a house this year, going vacation every month, and financially free,
04:17:36.520
Is that just you doing a TikTok dance or something?
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Telling people to stop sending that girl death threats.
04:18:31.600
And Fyndom is not paying for you for that, right?
04:18:55.020
She's advertising the platform where she's making money.
04:19:54.880
When we hung out with another girl behind my back.
04:19:57.040
So I said, I'd forgive him if he got my name tatted by...
04:20:10.260
Can you change that to like Calabias or something?
04:20:13.380
He tried to put some like disgusting little like...
04:20:16.140
I don't know if it's a tree growing, but it's just like there's this line that goes...
04:20:34.160
He snatched feet, Brian, from the jaws of victory.
04:20:40.520
No, he still is broke after stealing from her too.
04:20:47.560
Well, I mean, but this wasn't very long ago, right?
04:20:52.140
It takes a while for somebody to get back on their feet after, you know, banging a
04:21:00.600
This guy, he's got, you know, he's got some time.
04:21:05.180
Let's look at the rest of some of the more of the TikToks.
04:21:20.140
Okay, three more, and then we'll look at most recent, and then we'll move on.
04:21:32.360
Like, some girls will claim, oh, I got all these, like, to try to get more, but I feel
04:21:40.340
Scroll up, Nick, all the way to the top, please.
04:21:47.060
Although sometimes people exaggerate, but scroll down.
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I just want to see the three latest, if there's...
04:22:15.360
Less than 1% of 18-year-olds in America are making a six-figure salary.
04:22:21.880
You might be making six figures, but it's okay.
04:22:28.100
Like, what are you telling the government your profession is?
04:22:44.240
When the boy I met at my lowest tries to come back, he came back, the guy?
04:22:58.100
You ain't going to like when you meet the ultimate femdom called the IRS.
04:23:12.460
I can't in the right corner, but I have to be right small.
04:23:28.480
Having a different chick's name tatted means the next girl can fix him in relationship material.
04:23:33.540
I don't know if that's going to be a W with the ladies, if you have another girl's name.
04:23:54.600
There's no way men send you thousands without wanting something in return.
04:24:30.380
It's TikTok about how my ego goes up whenever people ask me if I have lip filler.
04:24:34.080
And then the comments on that video were just like, you have lip filler.
04:24:46.660
I just wanted to do a little TikTok review here.
04:24:52.720
We have some tweets, too, that are interesting that we should pull up, I think.
04:25:10.440
There's actually one specific one, Nick, that I wanted to pull up.
04:25:26.380
Then we'll get through the ones you already have.
04:25:28.860
Okay, there's one that we also pulled up after TikTok.
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Scroll it up nice and, you know, appropriate size.
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On my way to a paid podcast to talk to incels for a few hours.
04:26:33.020
I'll have you read them because we're going to pull up the tweets.
04:26:35.120
On my way to a paid podcast to talk to incels for a few hours.
04:26:48.580
A man that thinks he is above women or talks down on women.
04:26:57.880
I think you bring a lot of girls on here and you kind of corner them and ask them questions
04:27:03.420
that you know will make them sound stupid and you just circle back and forth on that.
04:27:16.440
It's not abuse to use the system as created to your benefit, which is what her ex does.
04:27:22.300
Now he has a story to show pre-selection of other women.
04:27:39.700
So I'm happy to get into like the criticisms of the show or whatever.
04:27:46.740
So looking at the actual word incel, what does that mean?
04:27:59.200
So I just, I want to be kind of clear here with the accusation.
04:28:06.460
Basically, incel is just a word that's used as basically like sort of a ad hominem attack.
04:28:13.800
You're not literally trying to say that this person is involuntarily celibate.
04:28:17.300
But you're saying, oh, this person is like essentially a piece of shit.
04:28:27.940
No, I was just saying it in the sense that you guys kind of just degrade a lot of women on here.
04:28:37.180
But like you could call us assholes or jerks or misogynists instead of incel, right?
04:28:44.320
So I'm trying to determine how I want to tackle the argument here.
04:28:54.480
Because I could actually tackle it like head on the actual definition of the word incel.
04:29:00.800
But I don't think that's the sense of how you're using it.
04:29:07.040
It just said I think you degrade a lot of women on here.
04:29:18.880
I guess I got my definition of incel wrong if it means involuntary celibate.
04:29:22.880
I'll even grant that a lot of people use that word as sort of like just a sort of blanket,
04:29:28.480
In the same way people will say this person's racist or a bigot when there's actually no
04:29:33.180
evidence for these things being true, people just throw out like a kind of buzzword
04:29:48.560
And is it directed towards Andrew or just me or both?
04:29:51.100
Well, I just mean you guys hate sex work, but you bring on all these OnlyFans girls.
04:30:02.580
Yeah, we've had on a good amount of OnlyFans girls.
04:30:06.860
Nick's about to pull up some statistics, because this is a common criticism.
04:30:10.900
I had someone painstakingly go through all the episodes so that we can actually basically
04:30:19.580
So 20% of the guests we've had on the show, and we've had on over 1,000 guests, only 20%
04:30:30.540
17% do OnlyFans, and then the other 3% are either, like, strippers or do, um, trap traditional
04:30:59.780
If you just take my claim at face value, knowing that only 20% of the guests that we have on
04:31:04.260
the show are involved in OnlyFans, um, does this change your position at all, or still?
04:31:10.880
I mean, you still choose to invite them on here, and whether you act like you hate sex work,
04:31:24.720
Shame women for having high body counts, in turn.
04:31:29.540
You could have a high body count and not be a sex worker.
04:31:33.100
Do you, or do you have anything against sex workers?
04:31:37.900
Well, I mean, couldn't you, on the dating front, couldn't you not want to date a woman who
04:31:53.300
I think, uh, and I try to treat people, sometimes I joke around, but I think I try to treat people
04:32:08.620
Uh, if you were to ask me, is sex work, in totality, bad for society, I would have to
04:32:16.520
I'm, I'm almost wondering, though, if you would agree with me on that.
04:32:19.580
Like, looking at it, bird's eye view, yourself.
04:32:22.880
Like, like, for example, alcohol is bad for society, I think.
04:32:34.200
I don't know if Andrew's going to want to debate me on the alcohol thing, but, um, uh,
04:32:39.000
so I don't, uh, I do think in totality, sex work is probably bad for society.
04:32:46.360
It's bad for the women who do it, it's bad for the people who consume it, uh, there's
04:32:50.500
obviously degree, varying degrees of sex work, but, uh, I don't hate the women who do sex
04:32:55.680
work, unless they're kind of obnoxious, or, um, oh, you might have pulled it up in the
04:33:01.140
Uh, I don't hate women who do sex work unless they're kind of obnoxious, or they're, uh,
04:33:12.080
What have you heard me say that you disagree with?
04:33:15.360
Um, personally, I mean, I, I tried watching one of the episodes, and, like, I remembered
04:33:20.620
things, but I, at this very moment, can't remember anything.
04:33:25.080
Um, so I have said that I would not date, uh, a woman who's done, uh, boy-girl content,
04:33:36.660
Now I'm actually leaning a bit more towards, uh, any kind of sex work.
04:33:41.240
I would not, uh, date a woman who does any kind of sex work.
04:33:46.940
My prior position was, well, so long as, and this is an old position of mine, uh, so long
04:33:51.880
as she hasn't, um, uh, done boy-girl content, you know, she does, like, solo content or something.
04:33:59.980
I was like, eh, it's not so bad, but then I, I've thought about it more, and, um, I suppose,
04:34:07.080
I have not dated a woman who does OnlyFans or Stripped or any kind of sex work thus far.
04:34:13.960
Um, there are plenty of women out there who are attractive, who have pleasant personalities,
04:34:23.740
I, so, so, yeah, I, pretty confident, pretty confident here can say that I would not date
04:34:41.540
Um, no, because I wouldn't date a guy that is a porn star, so.
04:35:08.560
So, just to kind of get this right, uh, just want to make sure we got this right.
04:35:11.520
Brian hates women because he won't date sex workers, right?
04:35:18.120
And you, you hate men because you won't date porn stars.
04:35:23.780
Or maybe just neither of you hate men, and neither of you hate women based on your dating
04:35:37.980
You said it's, you said, you said he's an incel.
04:35:41.180
You're going on a show with a bunch of incels, you said.
04:35:44.100
And, uh, you said that you categorize incel as somebody who hates and, and, uh, is mean
04:35:54.480
I, like, don't take anything on my Twitter seriously.
04:35:56.960
I take five seconds of posts and I don't even reread it.
04:35:59.000
Well, I'm not taking, I'm not taking it seriously.
04:36:01.620
I'm just, I'm, that's why I'm asking you, right?
04:36:06.580
Does incel to you, if incel to you is just a derogatory word and you say, well, it seems
04:36:12.180
like you bring on, uh, sex workers so that you can socially shame them or be mean to them
04:36:17.560
or point out how dumb they are or whatever it is, whatever the criticism is.
04:36:22.960
I don't really see why that's any different than, than what you're doing exactly.
04:36:27.500
Isn't it, isn't it the same thing if you have these kind of preferences against men?
04:36:33.640
Wait, don't you literally degrade men for money?
04:36:42.900
Now don't you, I mean, given the admissions that you've made on the show and some of the
04:36:49.460
videos we've seen, uh, wouldn't it be fair to say that the degree to which you degrade
04:36:55.660
men is orders of magnitude more egregious than the way in which you allege I degrade women?
04:37:19.320
It's like, I come on the show and sometimes I get a little huffy puffy with some of the
04:37:23.000
girls and I'm like, well, you're not a 10 and then also, oh, your body count's a bit
04:37:27.480
high and then you're like, I'm going to step on your fucking balls, bitch.
04:37:38.600
Boy, I don't, your body count's a bit high, dear.
04:37:40.580
Or Kylie, I'm going to step on your balls and bankrupt you, bitch.
04:37:54.740
But you're like, fuck this, fuck this little misogynist incel podcast with their slut shaming
04:38:18.720
Well, I, I mean, this is just my personal opinion, but I think.
04:38:26.900
I think people that have a super high body count and they lost their meaning of sex and
04:38:32.300
instead of it being something you do with someone you love and care about, it's more
04:38:37.580
of just like a pleasure, like get off in the moment.
04:38:39.720
I feel like those people are more likely to cheat.
04:38:47.480
So, I mean, they've actually done research on this, Kylie.
04:38:50.780
So they, they look, when it comes to infidelity.
04:38:53.720
So the more, the more sexual partner someone has had, the more likely they are to cheat
04:39:01.240
Now, it's not saying everybody who has a high body count will cheat on you, but it's more
04:39:20.160
But you, you're, one of your criticisms was, Brian, you like to slut shame the women.
04:39:26.560
But you also, you're like, yes, we should slut shame the women, Kylie.
04:39:39.240
I want to hear, Kylie, I want you to slut shame all the women at the table right now.
04:40:04.900
Can you, here, I won't have the, you do the rest of the panel.
04:40:07.580
What's really funny is, like, you think she's kidding, right?
04:40:11.720
It's like, you know, though, you know, behind the eyes, she means that shit.
04:40:25.320
You'll see any year when you're getting your boyfriend.
04:40:29.880
Last thing, Kylie, can you slut shame Anissa here?
04:40:34.740
Because she said she was, like, infinite, infinity.
04:41:56.440
I'm prettier than them, funnier than them, smarter than them, and skinnier than them.
04:42:03.960
By the way, for the whole panel, we have like a ton of these we got to react to.
04:42:09.260
So we can't stay, we can't get dug in too much on any singular tweet.
04:42:15.660
We kind of have to like rapid fire them because there's, there's a lot of tweets.
04:42:24.700
Oh, actually, I wasn't, I was just going to go to the next tweet.
04:42:48.580
You're leaning into the idea of the Fendom, but that's not really you.
04:43:03.160
Oh, could you maybe scoot into the table just a little bit so we can get you closer
04:43:13.860
We're going to have to zoom out a little bit on this.
04:43:23.500
Are you saying anything in the video or is it just like a?
04:44:27.140
White men should have never been put on this earth.
04:44:48.440
Because they love, like, they just love race plays, a really big thing on there.
04:45:31.020
Cheers to Nick and Big Desi for keeping it locked down, BTS.
04:45:35.260
May we always be happy, and may our enemies always know it.
04:46:39.180
See, if mom's white, then mom had parents, right?
04:46:43.460
And one of them must have been a white man, right?
04:46:46.880
I see what you're saying, but I was thinking more just like one generation.
04:46:53.440
Obviously, you know, like she was talking one generation.
04:47:10.060
You used your amazing debate skills to just fucking BTFO me.
04:47:19.060
It was the whatever chance I caught it, the whatever chance.
04:47:22.640
In fact, if you want to learn, Andrew just fucking smoked me.
04:47:28.580
If you want to learn to do what Andrew just did to me, you got to get the course.
04:47:35.440
You want to become a master debater like Andrew, you got to go to debateuniversity.com and get
04:47:48.080
It's like, Andrew, it's about six hours of content, right?
04:47:56.040
And it's, guys, seriously, guys, Andrew is arguably, he is the best debater of our time,
04:48:04.700
He is possibly the, I think this is a bit too much glazing.
04:48:14.460
Andrew, who were some Greek debaters back in the day, like BC?
04:48:21.800
Andrew, do you think you would, like, smoke Socrates?
04:48:34.260
Yeah, I think I could have beaten Aristotle, yeah.
04:48:36.100
Do you think there's going to be, like, time travel in the future, Andrew?
04:48:38.220
Like, could we, like, set up a debate between, like, you and, like, somebody, or what
04:48:44.100
Time travel is not really logical, so I don't think so.
04:48:51.200
You have that whole grandfather paradox thing, you know?
04:48:54.800
Like, what happens if you travel back in time and then shoot yourself just before you build
04:49:03.520
This happened in Dragon Ball Z, where, like, Trunks and stuff, like, he went back to the
04:49:08.640
future, but it was, like, a different, like, because of the androids and shit.
04:49:12.000
Like, the androids, like, 17 and 18, like, these two right here.
04:49:22.340
So, he, like, went back and he tried to, like, change it, but then, like, his original timeline
04:49:37.860
Yeah, but, I mean, I feel like when he took Frieza out with that big sword, that that was
04:49:42.300
one of the best parts of DVZ, to be honest with you.
04:49:46.600
When you just cut Frieza in half for no particularly good reason.
04:49:49.720
I didn't see that coming, you know what I mean?
04:49:51.520
I mean, I'd gone through hours of blank stares as they just kind of looked at each other
04:49:55.960
for, you know, to 15 minutes of filler per episode.
04:50:03.420
Like, ladies, would you date a guy who's, like, watched all the way from, like, the Saiyan
04:50:11.540
saga all the way to, like, through, like, the Boo saga?
04:50:15.080
Like, and he watches it, like, once, like, at least once a year?
04:51:30.520
I don't buy it because I'm pretty sure one of you tweeted, like, I...
04:51:43.440
I'm pretty sure both of you tweeted that and pinned it on Twitter profile.
04:52:01.760
Because I don't think you're joking about this one.
04:52:04.180
You had to stop talking to me for a little bit because you didn't have enough money.
04:52:10.560
And Andrew, I'm going to want you to come in on this one here.
04:52:16.560
We've actually explored this with another girl before.
04:52:23.900
But have both of you, when it comes to the Fiendom thing, have you, like, put a guy into, like, debt where he's in financial worry?
04:52:35.820
But also, a lot of the guys have this own fantasy in their head.
04:52:39.920
Like, sometimes they'll pretend like they have a girlfriend and as if they're cheating on her.
04:52:43.660
Or they'll pretend like they max out their whole credit card and pretend like they're going to be late on rent.
04:52:47.340
Because that's, like, the turn-on for them, even though it's not really true.
04:52:55.960
I mean, I've been told that they were late on rent because of me.
04:53:01.920
This one dude sent me a screenshot of his bank account.
04:53:14.680
I know you said some of these guys, maybe they're, like, doing a role...
04:53:17.240
Like, kind of a role play where they're not being honest.
04:53:25.580
Because, I mean, financial insecurity or being broke, going homeless, going into debt, having to go through bankruptcy.
04:53:32.360
I guess these things are pretty bad things for somebody.
04:53:46.840
But he's also simultaneously telling you, as part of his kink, that he is going to be evicted.
04:54:07.960
Another thing about Fendom is I had a guy tell me his concerns like that before.
04:54:13.580
And I, like, sat on a phone call with him because he was actually just crying to me that...
04:54:20.740
Crying to me that he couldn't stop sending money to girls on the internet.
04:54:32.120
And then I send back the money for, like, his rent and food and everything.
04:54:37.120
But, I mean, in the scenario I provided, would you keep going?
04:54:45.740
You talk to him on the phone and he sends his entire paycheck to you.
04:54:58.540
So, to my question, though, in the scenario I provided to you, would you keep going?
04:55:13.640
And knowing, if you knew that this would lead to them being homeless, would you keep going?
04:55:25.240
It's, like, an awkward question because I'll never really know.
04:55:27.660
Well, let's assume you do in this hypothetical.
04:55:43.020
But if I knew them, let's say, in real life, I had some, like, eye into their world and
04:55:46.620
they were actually going homeless, I wouldn't...
04:55:48.420
I don't need the money that bad that I would, like, do that to just one person when there's
04:55:56.020
What if there weren't other pay pigs in just this one?
04:56:04.420
I'm not sure I believe you, but can I ask you this sort of similar question?
04:56:13.020
Let's say somebody had a self-harm kink and they wanted you to bully them and to the point
04:56:34.520
But so, why do you have objections to that sort of harm?
04:56:38.520
But, I mean, you would be harming them financially by continuing to accept their money to the point
04:56:44.440
of eviction, homelessness, bankruptcy, they can't pay for their medical bills.
04:56:52.920
I know it's not the same, but there is a harm that's occurring to them.
04:57:03.540
I mean, like I said, I never really know for sure what's going on.
04:57:08.280
If that is actually happening or if they're just lying, that's part of their fantasy.
04:57:39.700
So, I just want to start out saying it's not the same, but I think like these guys,
04:57:58.400
Like, there's going to be other women if they won't do it.
04:58:01.180
I mean, I understand your line of questioning, and I don't agree with what they do, but it's
04:58:06.720
And the guys need to go get help as addicts as well.
04:58:16.040
I'm not sure if I immediately have a rebuttal to the casino comparison here.
04:58:22.180
People lose their life savings because they're such addicted gamblers.
04:58:29.440
I'm sure there's actually a rebuttal to it, but it's not occurring to me immediately.
04:58:32.700
Maybe there's a component of, like, there's a more...
04:58:46.380
So the casino is not going to be privy to the fact that the individual is nearing bankruptcy.
04:58:54.840
Because this individual is not likely to make disclosures to the casino.
04:59:02.920
This is not something that's going to be communicated to the casino.
04:59:15.520
There's dozens, hundreds, thousands of employees.
04:59:18.720
There's layers to it, whereas this is a very, very, like, immediate connection.
04:59:25.180
And the men are making disclosures to the individual woman that I am going bankrupt.
04:59:30.900
So the woman has become now aware of the circumstances of the man.
04:59:37.920
And does she have a duty or responsibility to...
04:59:42.880
For example, I'll actually give you a counterexample.
04:59:51.480
...reaching the point of intoxication to such a degree that he is at harm of himself.
04:59:55.840
I think there's actually criminal, potential criminal civil liability for a bartender who continues to pour, pour, pour
05:00:01.960
while this person is essentially arriving towards alcohol poisoning.
05:00:10.140
And I do think, maybe, Andrew, do you know about this?
05:00:12.280
There's, like, cases where if a drinker, a patron at the bar, gets a DUI,
05:00:29.720
The bartender could maybe even be held liable in some degree.
05:00:36.140
I think that that's based on locality, state, you know, different various laws.
05:00:42.800
I understand what you're saying, that if a bartender continues to serve you when you're drunk,
05:00:48.400
Well, that's true, but there's also all sorts of laws which, in different states, exempt them from liability.
05:00:59.540
The more that we talk with these, like, femdoms...
05:01:07.820
So, it is now the dark crucible, and I'm on my fucking degenerate arc.
05:01:13.520
If any of you stupid bitches out there want to send me all of your fucking money...
05:01:18.540
If you want to send me all of your fucking money to treat you like shit, go ahead.
05:01:24.540
Go ahead, and if you want to send all your money to Brian to treat you like shit, just go ahead and do it.
05:02:01.460
I did want to add something about the casinos, though.
05:02:06.700
Yeah, I did want to add something about the casinos.
05:02:08.900
I worked in a casino, and they did have people...
05:02:13.820
When they were borrowing money from the casino to gamble because they couldn't pay back, when they couldn't pay back, they'll be cut off.
05:02:24.420
And they're also telling blackjack dealers or anyone, if you see someone coming back over and over again, over gambling, you have to let know of the security guards to stop them.
05:02:44.540
So, I'm not really familiar at all with how casinos work.
05:02:47.280
But you said that if somebody's borrowing money from the casino, they'll cut them off.
05:02:54.440
But is this because of compassion for the individual, or is it because we now recognize as a company that if we allow this person to borrow too much, the likelihood that they'll ever be able to pay it back.
05:03:09.960
We only allow people to borrow $5,000, $1,000, whatever it is.
05:03:15.560
So, I don't know if it's like out of some sort of compassion.
05:03:18.900
Is it just like it's to protect the bottom line, protect the casino from not...
05:03:24.400
Because they might not be able to get the money back.
05:03:27.460
Well, there's an easier defeater for the argument.
05:03:29.980
The defeater is just that the casino and gambling dens are not purposely banking on their clientele being mentally ill.
05:03:38.400
So, casinos are going to make money, maximum money, by you being able to continuously create money for yourself, generate revenue for yourself, so that you can then give a small portion of it to the casino.
05:03:49.320
So, the more mentally stable you are, the better off the casino actually is.
05:03:56.840
In the case of femdoming, the mental illness aspect, I think, is just kind of baked in.
05:04:03.600
The idea here that men would want to purposely be degraded, abused, and, you know, have the ball stepped on, things like this.
05:04:13.160
That seems like that is the banking demographic, right?
05:04:25.800
Yeah, casinos, they also, like, since we started talking about casinos, they're supposed to, like, if the person in Gamblers Anonymous, in GA, they're supposed to kick this person out of the casino.
05:04:53.940
I'm just saying there's some personal responsibility if you are an addict, just like we talked about the bartender and the alcohol, we're talking about the casino, we're talking about them.
05:05:09.440
So, like, there is responsibility for both parties is really all I'm saying with that argument, that both parties have the responsibility to stop it.
05:05:17.960
I agree that when it comes to addicts, that addicts have to also help themselves.
05:05:22.700
What I'm saying is that the purpose of the den itself is not to create addicts.
05:05:27.440
It's just to make money giving a recreational activity.
05:05:33.040
I would say, for instance, a tobacco company, they actually design a product to create addicts, right?
05:05:39.000
Their product is designed specifically for that.
05:05:41.520
For casinos, that's not actually a really good model, right?
05:05:46.040
They want people to instead be making money to give a portion to them.
05:05:50.840
If they become destitute, they can't continue to do that.
05:05:55.960
And I have heard that casinos do certain things, especially in Vegas.
05:05:59.960
They'll pump the air in the casino, like, full of more oxygen to keep people awake longer and keep them up and keep them addicted and keep them going to not know what time.
05:06:12.880
Okay, but comedy clubs and all sorts of entertainment venues will do all sorts of tricks like that, too, like hiding clocks and various things.
05:06:21.340
The idea here being that the more fun you're having, the more money you're going to spend.
05:06:26.980
But the idea there is not to get you destitute.
05:06:32.200
They'd say it's much better for you to come in once a month and spend $2,000 than one time in a month and spend $25,000 and then become destitute because then long term we'll make less money off of you.
05:06:45.600
Whereas I think with a kind of a thing like this, the target demographic are going to be the mentally ill.
05:06:55.420
I think most of these men are going to be highly irregular in society and mentally ill for sure.
05:07:01.280
The casinos do allow you, if the more money you spend, you start getting hotel rooms, private jet flights to Vegas.
05:07:15.440
Yeah, you can get points and things like that, right?
05:07:19.920
But the idea there, too, is just to keep you at their casino versus going to another to spend your money, not to make you destitute so you can't continue to spend money.
05:07:28.980
Why would that make sense from a casino standpoint to make you destitute?
05:07:35.820
They would prefer that you just drop money every single month so over the long term they make the maximum amount, right?
05:07:46.340
I don't think the femdoms want their clients destitute either.
05:07:52.820
So what's baked into the pie is like, we'll never know if the things that we do to you actually do make you destitute because you're so fucking mentally ill.
05:08:01.520
Live from Vegas here, casinos in Vegas are resorts.
05:08:10.100
Cash out machines prominently share gambling addiction help resources.
05:08:17.340
Yeah, but the idea here, just real quick to get back to this, is no, from the femdom perspective, the bankruptcy could be part of the kink.
05:08:25.920
The, you know, you hurting me financially is the kink.
05:08:28.920
They, it's baked in there that they're not supposed to have any regard for that.
05:08:34.320
They're supposed to be doing that if that's what the customer wants, right?
05:08:38.500
So, no, I think it's a completely competitive or non-competitive model, the idea that you can just make your customer go destitute.
05:08:46.260
I think that that's a very predatory behavior, honestly.
05:08:57.800
Yeah, but the free, the idea behind the free drink is when you're drunk, you're having fun.
05:09:03.660
So, if you're in entertainment, and Brian, you're in entertainment, so you know this, when people are having a lot of fun, they like to spend money.
05:09:10.200
When they're not having fun, they don't like spending money, right?
05:09:14.980
But you would not want any of your customers, in this case, you're the product, whatever is the product, you would not want any of your super chatters to go destitute super chatting you.
05:09:25.160
And not just because you're a good person who would not ever want to see somebody go destitute by becoming obsessed with super chats, but also because even from the business standpoint, that would be fucking stupid.
05:09:36.320
How could they send in more super chats if they're destitute and can no longer take care of their, you know, family obligations and this type of thing to make more money to super chat you, right?
05:09:50.300
I mean, I only want people to support if they heck can, and they have the means.
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One of them said that they were, like, going bankrupt, and would you cut them off from donating?
05:10:04.580
I've actually sent back, I've actually sent people back.
05:10:09.580
We were like, oh, this is the last 10 bucks, but I want to support your channel.
05:10:18.260
That's not a good policy, obviously, because people control you, and I don't think I'd ever do it again, right?
05:10:23.560
Because there could be people who are like, whoa, you know, they're just, like, trolling you to make you pay a fee or whatever.
05:10:33.860
I just have this whole issue with not wanting to see people actually get in any way damaged by the things that I do.
05:10:41.560
It's integrity and karma, so I'm glad you guys do that.
05:10:45.540
That's all bullshit, but I do care about the integrity aspect.
05:10:55.940
Have you ever used somebody as a human ashtray?
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Has a guy ever maxed out his credit card on you?
05:11:33.020
You're welcome for making your bank account negative.
05:11:36.380
So he bought you a bunch of food and you made his bank account negative?
05:12:22.640
You wouldn't, if a pay pig said, I'll give you a thousand dollars for you to stomp on me,
05:12:32.560
Does it ever occur to you that you'll always be a miserable, broke, pathetic, and ugly specimen?
05:12:52.400
What do you tell your wife when she asks where all your money is going?
05:12:57.440
Do you have a lot of customers who are married?
05:13:21.800
Oh, yeah, you did say you would bankrupt a guy.
05:14:42.060
And my end goal would probably be something, like, in real estate or cosmetology.
05:15:13.180
For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?
05:15:25.240
Even something that's found in a religious text, could there be truth to it?
05:15:32.240
For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?
05:15:37.960
Are you relating that to how this affects us as a person?
05:15:45.500
You can have all the material gain in the world.
05:15:47.720
But if it's at the expense of the thing that makes you you, in this case, your soul.
05:15:52.900
If it corrupts the very thing that makes you the person that you are, then who cares about
05:15:58.400
all the material things you gain at its expense, right?
05:16:07.680
Do you ever go to sleep at night and feel, like, guilty and bad for how you talk to these guys?
05:16:15.240
I mean, at first, when I first started doing it, but...
05:16:24.680
They're grown men, and they have done their own research and found out all these different
05:16:29.100
kind of possible kinks that they could have, and this was what they went with.
05:16:33.500
So, but your initial reaction was empathy and feeling bad.
05:16:36.880
Do you think that you just got jaded over time?
05:16:38.720
I mean, no, because I didn't think too hard about how they got off to it.
05:16:47.440
It was just, like, an initial saying something mean to someone else.
05:16:51.200
You would think that they are hurt by it, but they're not...
05:16:55.440
Don't you feel, like, icky talking to them like that, though?
05:16:58.500
Like, you, personally, don't you feel, like, shitty for talking to people like that?
05:17:05.460
Well, Laura, would you agree, though, that you need to have a soul in order to lose it?
05:17:11.500
She initially felt guilty, so it's like she lost her empathy.
05:17:44.280
Andrew, am I selling my soul by doing this podcast?
05:17:51.620
I mean, the idea here is just that you will, at the expense of morality, do things for material gain.
05:18:07.040
There's a great play that was written about this very thing.
05:18:10.940
The idea was that you would be willing to sell your soul for materialism.
05:18:15.680
And once you do that, you can't get the very thing back.
05:18:19.460
So, it's like that old adage Dave Ramsey used to always say that a man will spend his entire health to gain wealth and then spend all of his wealth to get his health back, right?
05:18:30.960
We make these value assessments and we fuck them up.
05:18:33.260
And when you're young, you fuck them up worse because you feel like you're invincible and immortal.
05:18:37.340
You never think that age will catch up with you.
05:18:41.520
You're going to be the one who never gets older.
05:18:42.960
You're going to be the one that that never happens to.
05:18:47.840
And unfortunately, most people compromise their values in exchange for materialism.
05:18:55.960
I have a best friend, actually, and a couple of years ago, I mean, my friends come to me for relationship advice quite often.
05:19:02.160
So, I only know about what femda is when they first said it because my friend came to me and she said, I started seeing this guy and he literally has this weird fetish.
05:19:12.860
He told me after a month or so and she was showing me the text and like, it's like, it was just graphic, funny, sad.
05:19:22.560
Like, he was like, he wanted her, he sent her like a picture and he was like, tell me it's so small you can't even use it.
05:19:29.880
And she was just like, she said she felt like shit inside.
05:19:34.660
Like, he sent me like so much money, but I feel like crap, what should I do?
05:19:39.940
If you feel like crap, then it's not like, tell him you're not the girl for him, you know?
05:19:44.060
And she was like, yeah, like it's hard because he is giving me money and I'm trying, but like, I can't like sleep a night.
05:19:50.220
And I was like, if you can't sleep a night, you should stop.
05:19:56.540
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't really mean to make it into like, like a virtue signal thing.
05:20:03.200
I'm just saying the, I'm just trying to explain kind of what the principle is, right?
05:20:07.840
I think everybody, for the most part, at least in the West, is going to come to various crossroads of choice where they'll have the choice in which they can compromise the very belief structure that they have.
05:20:20.220
In exchange for some type of material possession that they desire.
05:20:23.940
And unfortunately, I think in modernity, most people will compromise that, that morality for that material possession.
05:20:34.000
And I think in modernity that women suffer from this far more than men, which is why I consider men to be more virtuous than women.
05:20:40.240
It's not because I hate women or think that women bad.
05:20:45.280
And because of that, it's far easier to compromise them when it comes to an exchange of morality for material possession.
05:20:52.860
If you want proof of this, see Eve in the Bible, then you'll understand where I come to this conclusion.
05:21:03.960
And I want, want to know if it, if this impacts you.
05:21:06.760
Because sometimes I think about this quote and I'm like, yeah.
05:21:11.060
So whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process, he does not become a monster.
05:21:17.600
And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
05:21:23.620
So that's modern, modern Western philosophy stolen from Easterners who don't understand the distinction between essence and energy.
05:21:30.760
But the thing is, is that no, you stare into the abyss long enough where you dance.
05:21:35.480
But the other way to say this, you dance with the devil.
05:21:40.720
This is actually antithetical to Christian ethics.
05:21:43.340
The idea in Christian ethics being that you're always staring down at the abyss and your job's to convert the world while you're staring down it.
05:21:54.740
Another way you could say this, I've heard it said as the, be careful that the shadow you chase is not the one that you cast.
05:22:01.120
Meaning, be careful the thing you're going after is not the very thing that you are.
05:22:04.500
But I think, I think that the only thing that you can do, right?
05:22:16.700
The truth is, is that you should absolutely stare them down, hold your ground and not take a single step back ever.
05:22:24.660
And I think that those quotes are essentially cope.
05:22:29.340
They're just trying to tell you to sidestep the issues which are in front of you in order to try to safeguard yourself from falling prey to the same types of vice.
05:22:39.360
However, I think that you could be effective and not fall prey to them.
05:22:42.320
The way I interpret that last quote, though, isn't so much like to run from a fight.
05:22:48.520
It's more so if you're involved in a certain, if you're engaged with something.
05:22:55.420
Like, this thing has the capacity to scar you in some way so as to damage you.
05:23:08.480
Is there's no singular activity that you can fall into that doesn't have that capacity.
05:23:12.940
Think of something as simple as eating ice cream.
05:23:16.420
But if you eat too much ice cream, it has the potential to scar you.
05:23:20.820
But if you play the guitar too much, right, it has the potentiality to consume you.
05:23:26.580
This is just a basic truth about almost any activity that you can engage in.
05:23:32.900
I think that the abyss is the thing we're always all staring into.
05:23:37.740
And the trick is to just not get sucked into it regardless of that.
05:24:00.920
Brian, willing to sell your lint roller for financial gain.
05:24:05.020
What are limits people should go to in order to excel?
05:24:08.260
Is it only built on reputation, professionalism, and hard work?
05:24:19.480
I'm also selling Kiki back there for a Bitcoin.
05:24:24.380
So if you want to buy Kiki, I will sell Kiki for a Bitcoin if anybody's interested.
05:24:58.780
Relaxing on my human footstool in a mansion while draining losers online right now.
05:25:20.620
I'm just an 18-year-old girl partying in a mansion while old men work for me.
05:25:31.480
You niggas are retarded if you think I'm not worth your whole bank account.
05:25:55.520
If you think I'm not worth your whole bank account.
05:26:15.820
Ugly girls have to work hard for minimum wage while I post a selfie and make their paycheck in a day.
05:27:07.160
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
05:27:15.120
Look, you either have original shit to say or you quote The Dark Knight, right?
05:27:43.020
Boys that shut the fuck up and do whatever I say.
05:28:03.320
Pretty pink goddess ready to drain all your money.
05:28:08.120
I don't know why you usually think you can DM me without paying.
05:28:19.220
There's a tribute you have to pay before DM me.
05:29:02.300
Kai, yes, my first X cheated and got DV charges.
05:29:21.940
Were you smacking him around, too, or was it, like, one way?
05:29:25.800
Well, I was trying to get him off of me, and I lost the fight, so...
05:29:45.640
So, guys will sign up for a certain amount of money they want to be in debt to me for.
05:29:51.740
They choose the time they want to pay it off, and then they choose how much they're going
05:29:58.480
Some of these guys like to be blackmailed, so they will send me personal information, like
05:30:04.860
their wife's phone number, their kids, all of that.
05:30:08.060
I've never actually had to blackmail anyone, but it's just, like, they get off to the thought
05:30:24.560
Isn't that just, like, mental illness at that point?
05:30:28.360
That's why I don't really like to add the blackmail part into it.
05:30:34.100
Well, I've never actually blackmailed someone, though.
05:30:37.360
Well, you haven't, wait, you haven't actually, like, gone through with, like, the blackmail?
05:30:42.760
No, but you've accepted, like, they give you the phone number.
05:30:57.800
What's the application fee for your debt contract?
05:31:25.580
I'd be curious to know how they learned the whole scheme.
05:31:44.280
Did you have, like, a friend or something like that?
05:31:51.780
You're not part of, like, some femdom sub-community of girls who talk about all this shit all the time?
05:32:08.560
I don't have all the degen terms correct, okay?
05:32:14.040
The power is not nearly as righteous as long paladins donated $100 and two cents.
05:32:21.260
The sad thing is, as a man who makes $200k a year, I would absolutely be willing to support a woman 100%.
05:32:29.120
She'd never have to work or find other simps, but I've never found a woman worthy of it.
05:32:37.800
Well, paladins, does she, like, does she just, like, not know how to play, like, World of Warcraft?
05:32:50.200
She, uh, oh, what's that term where you, like, walk backwards, but it's, um...
05:33:07.000
Can we get back to how you're dunking on me for my coomcabulary here?
05:33:20.460
I said, I said, well, you're coming down on me pretty hard about my coomcabulary.
05:34:07.220
How at 18 or even before did you girls find out about, like, Findom?
05:34:13.800
As Andrew was saying, it's a small population who do this.
05:34:20.820
How did you decide, like, yeah, this is the kink I want to do?
05:34:24.660
I find it strange that, like, 16, 17-year-old girls know so much about sexual kinks.
05:34:30.360
I mean, I guess it's the world we live in, but it's unfortunate.
05:34:38.620
I don't know if you've seen that, but the character Cat.
05:34:52.760
Back peddling, it's back peddling and keyboard turning.
05:35:06.180
You said you got into Femdom from the show Euphoria because the girl Cat does it.
05:35:10.560
I also honestly saw on TikTok this girl post, bully men for money, and I tried it out as, like, a little side hustle, and I ended up actually being good at it and making a lot of money, so I quit both of my jobs for it.
05:35:31.560
So, we must direct men towards a brighter, towards the righteous path.
05:35:46.380
We need to tell these men, we need to tell these, look, blame on both sides here.
05:36:16.820
Penny, my ex had cheated on me for the whole nine months that we were together, then proceeded to thread into...
05:36:30.340
Threatened to delete you after you broke up with him.
05:36:35.920
He also hacked your Instagram account and posted private stuff on there, as well as texting multiple people about himself.
05:36:55.640
Is he still trying to, like, talk to you, or is he out of the picture?
05:37:06.100
And he deleted it before I could screenshot it.
05:37:22.600
The only way I'll allow my shoes to be clean is with a pathetic man's tongue.
05:37:44.020
Friendzoned him so hard that he pays for my dates with other men.
05:37:57.280
Um, so when you started hate a man, when you knew that he cheated you or before?
05:38:05.540
No, I started this while we were still together.
05:38:14.020
I said, I started Fyndom while me and my ex were still together and I do not actually hate men.
05:38:31.740
Are you still talking together or do you know him or...
05:38:50.840
That's pretty obvious based on the behavior that there would be.
05:39:02.280
She just loves me and supports me in everything that I do.
05:39:29.180
There's a difference divorcing at a very young age versus when someone is an adult.
05:39:34.120
I'm not going to say it's, like, not damaging either way, but that's my opinion.
05:39:49.780
And yes, uh, Mr. and Mrs. Wilson are still together.
05:39:55.900
But if a man would make a TikTok about bullying a woman, he is an abuser.
05:40:01.480
He will be totally canceled in the hashtag MeToo people, but our hurting people back girl get help.
05:40:32.960
Um, it would definitely be treated differently if men were to do this.
05:40:54.800
There are certain, like, anti-male hashtags that are allowed.
05:41:00.520
But other, like, anti-women hashtags are banned.
05:41:06.740
And maybe they changed it, because I last checked this two years ago.
05:41:32.220
So, if you were a man doing this sort of stuff, I don't...
05:42:00.200
You got a problem with white guys, or what's up?
05:42:13.280
Like, do you have a racial preference now because of this?
05:42:27.340
I actually don't have objections to racial preferences.
05:42:47.620
In China, TikTok wouldn't promote that kind of behavior.
05:42:51.120
TikTok is literally a tool for them to help destroy Western civilization.
05:43:01.160
Nick, can you scroll down in the sources tab here for me?
05:43:24.540
For context, this is the popular 6'5", alpha male, dominating all the sports from my old high school.
05:43:56.220
If you are watching, I'm going to fendom you, you fucking piece of shit.
05:44:25.680
You fucking, how could you, you fucking simp, piece of shit.
05:44:31.260
How are you going to let a girl step on your balls, dude?
05:44:51.780
I'm going to fucking bankrupt you, you fucking piece of shit.
05:44:56.940
I swear to fucking God, you fucking disgust me.
05:45:04.820
How much fucking money for the step on your fucking balls, you fucking piece of shit?
05:45:09.760
I swear to fucking God, if I ever see you, I'm 6'1".
05:45:14.560
I'll still smack you in the fucking face, you motherfucker.
05:45:47.440
I will fucking become the coach of your bullshit fucking community college football team.
05:45:56.640
I had a really good one, but then it slipped my head.
05:46:15.040
Brian, Findom, the ladies in the chat, he is willing to take all of your money.
05:46:25.640
I mean, just the worst you've ever been treated.
05:46:30.640
I had a really good one, but I totally forgot it.
05:46:36.100
I had such a good one, but I just, I forgot it.
05:46:44.820
Normalize kicking random men in the balls simply because they are a man.
05:46:48.320
Just like, imagine walking down the street and you just see me come and kick you.
05:47:07.480
Wait, pull it back up just so I can do the counter.
05:47:14.860
Listen, normalize fucking punching random women in the pussy.
05:47:34.320
I wasn't kidding when I said men are dogs and they're wearing my name.
05:48:03.080
How can you sleep at night after robbing grown men all day?
05:48:09.140
How can you sleep at night after robbing grown men all day?
05:48:30.080
It's like, what's that video of the guy who's, like, crying into the stuff?
05:48:39.120
The guy who's, like, crying into, like, $100 bills?
05:48:46.280
Guys, this would be a great opportunity for you guys to go.
05:48:56.080
You can get all sorts of spicy content on there, like Andrew demolishing feminists.
05:49:08.480
Pull it over so I can see it just in the corner here.
05:49:29.400
Listen, Connor, you fucking piece of shit motherfucker.
05:49:33.940
If you spend one more fucking dollar on this, is he still giving you fucking money?
05:49:54.380
Just get yourself a nice little vanilla girlfriend, you fuck.
05:50:31.160
Who knew my dimples could make men fold so easily?
05:51:05.300
Oh, it's wild that people pay for maids while idiot men pay me to clean my place.
05:51:16.780
So that one guy that had my foot still in the mansion, that was him.
05:51:22.180
I have a lot of idiot men that want to meet me.
05:51:24.780
Firstly, you must be in my 1K club to even be considered.
05:51:28.100
Second, I'm not being caught with you uggos in public for any less than another 1K.
05:51:44.460
Can I just, I have a gripe when it comes to names.
05:51:50.080
Can we just ban names that can be pronounced more than one way?
05:51:56.760
I have like different family members that pronounce it differently.
05:52:10.980
Dude, you want, okay, I've told this story on the podcast a long time ago, but, so, what was
05:52:21.540
I lost the girl because, I lost the girl because of this.
05:52:56.460
Now, after I had sex with her for the first time, I...
05:53:15.680
You've been making a lot of terrible assumptions all night.
05:53:21.980
Like, where did you come up with all this shit?
05:53:26.700
I mean, can I not find the Bible inspiring and find truth in this sacred text?
05:53:41.560
He's trying to get me to become an Orthodox Christian.
05:53:48.020
But you could be an atheist, you could be secular, and still, you don't have to be against the...
05:54:02.480
You could think that there's a lot of truth in the religion or in the sacred texts.
05:54:08.040
In this case, the Bible's pretty fucking based.
05:54:16.500
Yeah, but where did you get the idea that Brian was a Christian?
05:54:19.780
Like, he made all these crazy assumptions all night that he hates sex workers, that he's mean to...
05:54:26.580
Like, where did you come up with all this shit?
05:54:29.780
Yeah, Kailani, or whatever the fuck your name is.
05:54:38.400
I thought I saw a clip of you talking about Christianity, and I thought you were Christian.
05:54:48.280
All you said was, I thought you were Christian.
05:55:11.420
Yeah, and then you had sex, and then you got interrupted.
05:55:43.480
I was going to make a fucking corny-ass stupid joke.
05:56:06.840
After the amazing sex we had, trust me, it was good.
05:56:26.700
I was like, hey, could you remind me how to pronounce your name?
05:56:40.920
I politely sought clarification on how to pronounce it.
05:56:49.600
So, after parting ways, I'm like, hey, you want to hang out again?
05:56:52.460
And she's like, yeah, it was really disrespectful how you forgot how to pronounce my name.
05:57:13.000
Either they won't sleep with you, and then there's really no need to ever call them again.
05:57:16.840
Or they do sleep with you, and then there's really no need to ever call them again.
05:57:25.420
Yeah, I just wanted to play it because it kind of made a good movie.
05:57:52.380
Because I was like, how do you pronounce her name, babe?
05:57:54.400
And I don't want to fuck it up when I'm inside of you.
05:58:05.980
I saw a clip where you were like, I don't believe in it.
05:58:19.920
She has to be rich for me to want to marry her.
05:58:40.840
By the way, all men sign a prenup if you're going to marry a woman.
05:58:43.400
But I would never fucking sign a prenup if she makes more money than me.
05:58:55.020
But then, like, if they're making the money, they'll be like, there's going to be a prenup.
05:59:07.280
Like, women who make money, like, they're smart about that shit.
05:59:17.600
Oh, they don't think about this shit, a lot of guys.
05:59:23.620
But when a woman makes money, she's smart about that shit.
05:59:29.400
But if a woman makes a lot more money, then she eventually will lose respect for her man.
05:59:36.600
And when the respect is gone, so gone is a relationship.
05:59:54.620
Did they get married when she was wealthier than him?
05:59:58.240
Yeah, how much money did she end up with, Brian?
06:00:01.320
Like, I think, at the time, wasn't it, like, 50 billion or something?
06:00:07.280
Listen, Mackenzie Bezos, or Mackenzie whatever the fuck your new name is.
06:00:12.000
I am not as toxic in real life as I am on this podcast.
06:00:18.740
Mackenzie, if you're watching this, get your people in touch with my people.
06:00:41.340
So if the woman wasn't super rich, you're not getting married?
06:00:44.040
Well, I mean, yeah, because it's a great tax write-off.
06:01:01.940
No, I'm just saying, okay, so you still don't want to get married, basically, is the answer,
06:01:12.720
Me and Mackenzie, Bezos, or whatever she was, you know, I don't know.
06:01:24.960
Well, you want marriage without the prenup to someone of that financial level.
06:01:33.880
I want you at home, all the time, available, kissing my feet.
06:01:43.100
He has to stay at home as a kept man with billions of dollars and gets whatever material
06:02:03.880
A billion dollars, but you have to stay at home?
06:02:25.480
But I feel like I've said this before, and I got massive pushback from the chat.
06:02:37.800
I can just go buy whatever I want, whenever the fuck I want, and have to stay at home.
06:02:43.980
I mean, the girls you date now, and you date on a serious level, do they know they're never
06:02:51.660
You still want a serious relationship, but you won't get engaged.
06:03:01.320
I can't see myself ever getting married, although I guess Andrew's kind of working on me a little
06:03:07.300
bit, but this would be within a Christian purview.
06:03:20.880
What if the woman's like, I just want a ring to show your commitment?
06:03:25.480
I would just reverse it on her with my verbal judo that I learned from debateuniversity.com,
06:03:30.560
and I would say something like, you need to show your commitment to me by not needing
06:03:39.580
What if she just gave birth to your son or daughter?
06:03:46.360
Now you need to show your commitment to me by accepting.
06:03:49.480
By accepting to the whole family, to the whole family, she needs to show her commitment.
06:03:55.420
You know, I don't understand, why do you get, why do you get like a gold Snickers bar?
06:04:11.740
Like, it is romantic and nice for a husband to give his wife a push present.
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Childbirth is the most painful thing a human can go through.
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There's definitely more painful shit than childbirth.
06:04:54.140
Did you want to tell her how sad you were for that I didn't give her a fucking present for having the baby?
06:05:01.700
So, it's like, you know, my husband would, if he could carry the kid, like, but he can't.
06:05:08.600
So, you can show your appreciation for a major sacrifice that a woman's body goes through
06:05:13.420
and the pain she goes through delivering your children.
06:05:16.480
They wouldn't be there without her by giving her a present.
06:05:19.100
I'm not saying you have to give her a diamond ring, but, like...
06:05:22.160
Who donates the genetic material and also the man's sacrifice?
06:05:27.600
I didn't say you don't do anything, but you should have some appreciation for your wife going through pregnancy and delivering your child.
06:05:34.140
Do you want to hear the argument, or do you just want to spurg out?
06:05:40.260
So, let me explain it to you so that you understand, right?
06:05:43.060
So, women, in the younger years, right, maybe, tell the kid is of school-going age,
06:05:50.220
if you get to stay at home with your kids, yeah, that's a great privilege for you in modernity.
06:05:55.620
It's a great privilege for you to be able to stay at home with your kids.
06:05:59.220
It's a great privilege for you to be able to do that, as most women cannot.
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The man's sacrifice, he should be getting the fucking present.
06:06:08.600
Your gift is that you get to stay at home, and most women in modernity are not able to stay at home.
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You think your man, get him a fucking gift, because it's through his sacrifice you even get to do what almost no woman in modernity can,
06:06:26.280
By the time they get to school-going age, they're gone for most of the fucking day anyway.
06:06:35.020
You can do mutual appreciation, but I've also, I've worked, I've supported myself my entire life,
06:06:40.220
and only recently did he say, I want you to, you know, cut back from work and spend more time with the kids,
06:06:44.880
and you're right, that absolutely is a privilege.
06:06:51.120
So, I mean, we're arguing about something different now.
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I think I gave her the greatest gift you could give her.
06:07:03.660
Wait, Nick, there's a video of a guy working, you know, the working video that we've had pulled up for a little bit?
06:07:11.380
Men are willing to do this so a woman can stay at home and not have to work.
06:07:23.520
Man, we need, we need 50-50 representation in whatever the fuck this guy's doing.
06:07:51.980
I just said going through pregnancy and childbirth is, is, is hard.
06:08:01.720
So, I threw up 25 times a day, lost 35 pounds in both pregnancies from the hormones of the twin pregnancy.
06:08:10.660
Like, my situation is definitely a little bit different.
06:08:19.460
I feel like you're kind of just changing it around, right?
06:08:21.880
So, at first, it was like, here's what happened at first.
06:08:27.580
But what you said was, oh, my God, LNG, you didn't get your wife a present?
06:08:40.200
We got Rachel Wilson, a little quick 15-minute cameo from Miss Wilson.
06:08:50.260
Look, please tell her I hate the idea of push presents.
06:09:02.880
I think a man should at least get her flowers, like, at least.
06:09:06.980
It's not romantic in that way, but that's my opinion.
06:09:09.840
Yeah, okay, but, I mean, I'm just saying that was how it was presented, how it was actually
06:09:14.280
presented before the backpedaling began was that I was a rotten human being because I
06:09:32.160
And then when I said no, she was like, well, I can't believe...
06:09:36.120
Yeah, she would wreck her body and do all of that.
06:09:44.860
You were definitely very, very demeaning towards the not getting her the present part, right?
06:09:56.480
Should I have gotten her like a little card and just said, hey, thanks for having my baby?
06:10:02.680
What would be better, a better gift for her than...
06:10:07.060
How about you can stay at home for the rest of your life with the children?
06:10:09.900
What better gift could I have gotten her than that?
06:10:15.920
What better gift could I have gotten her than that?
06:10:18.000
No, that is a gift that could be considered a gift.
06:10:20.900
But I also think there's nothing wrong with showing appreciation to the mother of your
06:10:29.640
Like, that's just my opinion, that men should still be romantic and give their woman a push
06:10:39.420
Okay, so if I get kidney stones, do I get a push present?
06:10:49.020
I'm just asking, what did you give her with the kidney stone?
06:11:00.140
Yeah, that required his genetic material and then the rest of his life to rear.
06:11:05.060
No, I understand that, but you're not going through the same physical pain and birth like
06:11:12.360
You go through fucking absolute anguish for 18 solid years busting your ass, right?
06:11:20.080
They usually stay at home for 25 years now before they even launch because they have to
06:11:26.300
And you bust your ass for 60 hours a week plus every single fucking day to make sure that
06:11:33.300
Yeah, I would take all that pain and just reduce it to one day to never have to work
06:11:47.940
Yeah, well, I guess you're a 50-50 dude can go get you a fucking push present.
06:11:53.460
I'm just saying, like, you're saying you sacrifice so much providing, but I mean.
06:12:02.480
You really, like, you would be happy if you gave birth and a guy got you nothing, not
06:12:14.260
Maybe I'll be there in the delivery room with her.
06:12:17.220
And I'll say, good job, and then go finish my pizza.
06:12:28.700
How about everybody makes a big fucking deal over Mother's Day, right?
06:12:32.180
All the women make a big deal over Mother's Day.
06:12:45.160
Before you start, like, chiming in, can I finish my point here?
06:12:51.400
You're going to say you're the exception to the rule.
06:12:53.380
Every woman you talk to, they're the exception to the rule.
06:12:57.860
I'm sure that Mother's Day in your house, a way bigger deal than Father's Day is.
06:13:05.160
Same thing with all of those types of celebrations.
06:13:15.480
When you're making assumptions about your family, I'm talking in generalization.
06:13:18.300
Don't you agree with me that it is true that men, generally, nobody's making a big fuss about them over their birthday.
06:13:24.720
They're not generally making a big fuss about them on Father's Day.
06:13:27.740
They're not generally making a big fuss about them during celebrations.
06:13:30.820
But rather, everything is tailored towards women and the give me the present, right?
06:13:41.640
Well, do you guys think when a woman gives birth, she should get a push present, so-called?
06:14:09.280
I think what's really unfair, to kind of relate it to the push present thing, is I don't
06:14:31.580
Without a doubt, you end up like these whores in seat number one and number two prostituting
06:14:39.480
Thank the dads for keeping daughters off the stripper pole.
06:14:55.540
I don't know if it's a push present, but it always bothered me, like, you know, y'all
06:15:03.120
can have, like, multiple orgasms, and I don't get a thank you when y'all come, like, 20 times
06:15:08.080
in the span of 15 minutes, and I only get to come once.
06:15:21.740
Every time we have carnal knowledge, you should pay me money.
06:15:30.980
...satisfaction if women came 20, 30, 40, 60 times in a matter of a few minutes.
06:16:03.920
I thought it was race and you were supposed to finish first.
06:16:30.860
I think it's really unfair that y'all are over here having fucking multiple orgasms and
06:16:47.640
I'm just saying, these chicks, their legs are like fucking twitching.
06:16:54.140
They're like having a fucking seizure and shit.
06:17:16.360
I carry a taser with me whenever I have a sexual encounter.
06:17:22.360
I also bring pepper spray, too, in case she wants to be crying and...
06:17:35.540
My mother pushed out five of us with no push presents.
06:17:39.740
The present is that for the last 28 years since our father passed away,
06:17:44.640
we have kept her in the lifestyle that she had been accustomed to.
06:18:03.040
But before we do, we need to also go to Twitch.
06:18:05.360
Guys, you've got to go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
06:18:23.020
I think it's bugged, boys, if somebody can test out the Prime sub.
06:18:41.280
She, like, tried to falsely accuse Desmond and Austin and me of heinous crimes against humanity.
06:18:50.780
So, I'm going to post the BTS of that probably later tonight or tomorrow.
06:19:37.680
Like, you're fucking playing StarCraft and, like, you're Zerg and they're, like, fucking Protoss
06:19:44.180
Like, you send some fucking Zerglings and you fucking smoke their base in, like, three minutes.
06:19:54.400
Like, GG, well played, even though they're, like, you fucking, like, smoke.
06:19:59.700
Like, do you know Command and Conquer Generals?
06:20:11.220
And you're playing against, like, GLA or China.
06:20:13.500
And, like, you put a bunch of, like, Rocket Men into the Chinook or whatever.
06:20:17.580
And you send it over to the base, like a little Chinook Rocket Man thing.
06:20:22.680
Like, what's the meta that you play in, like, Generals and shit?
06:20:27.400
Yeah, but so, like, you own them, like, in the game, right?
06:20:34.420
Like, do you have a Scud Missile and you fucking just Scud Missile the shit out of the, like, the fucking...
06:21:59.260
It is a cage that men will put on their thing to make it shrink.
06:22:54.880
So you want them in a body cage or just the chastity cage?
06:23:12.840
Only 18 years old and I make grown men cry for fun.
06:23:16.080
You see how far the termites have spread and how long and well they've dined.
06:23:29.740
Can you be like 40 years old and make 18-year-olds cry for fun?
06:23:36.220
I mean, I don't know about we, but I mean, you're a damn kid, right?
06:24:11.340
Imagine we each took turns kicking you in the balls.
06:24:31.280
It's been fun chatting with you guys, but I'd love to depart.
06:24:42.700
Chastity belt for men is literally thousands of years old.
06:24:51.800
Listen, she reads at an 11th grade level, okay?
06:25:18.080
Wait, but Andrew was going to have a debate with you about patriarchy, and we haven't gone to your notes.
06:25:23.720
Can we get you a little Red Bull to keep you here?
06:25:29.220
If you're down to ask me questions, I'm down to answer for a bit longer, for sure.
06:25:33.380
Well, I think we can get you an energy drink if it is helpful.
06:26:35.840
Listen, this is, we are, I don't think it's boring.
06:26:39.620
I think it was cool for the first 45 minutes, and then it's like, okay, we get it.
06:26:52.000
Can you not be insensitive to my autism, please?
06:27:07.500
This has gone on a little long with the tweets.
06:27:50.620
You can't be my Caucasian, is what I'm trying to say.
06:27:52.800
Yeah, but I understand already her opinion, and, like, it's...
06:28:00.300
It's interesting, but I've already understand, like, what her mind...
06:28:10.980
I wanted to wait until 2025, but I'm actually renaming the whatever podcast to the Beat a Dead Horse podcast, so I'm sorry, but...
06:28:21.340
I am renaming it to the Beat a Dead Horse podcast, so we are going to beat the dead horse, but are you my Caucasian?
06:29:15.500
You are nothing but a human ATM to hot, entitled brats.
06:29:28.400
My ex literally has my name tatted on his neck, and you want to question the power I have
06:29:42.080
But, like, wouldn't the ultimate power be that he loves you so much?
06:30:41.860
If you're a man and you make less than me, you deserve to be pegged.
06:31:00.880
Breaking a sub down so badly to the point they cry is an unmatched feeling, and I love it.
06:31:24.040
Your wife doesn't turn you on anymore, but giving away your hard-earned money to girls
06:31:34.620
I'm throwing a party today, and the way I'm turning down all the ugly losers are making
06:31:38.300
them pay $100 to get in reminds me of how some of these freaks are probably getting off
06:31:43.880
If he doesn't want to ruin his life for me, I don't want it.
06:31:46.020
Now, is this like an actual dating thing or a pay-pig thing?
06:31:53.240
POV, every woman's reaction to that thing in your pants.
06:32:06.960
I will never call a man alpha, even if it's my man.
06:32:11.740
Wait, so is this a dating thing or a pay-pig thing?
06:32:25.960
I mean, girls could feel this way about dating.
06:32:27.720
I don't think it's exclusive to being a fin-dung chick or whatever.
06:32:33.880
I want a personal simp to order around while I'm in this mansion,
06:32:37.540
licking my shoes clean as soon as I come inside,
06:32:39.820
personal footstool, a made-to-cook-and-clean, et cetera.
06:32:49.060
The only way I'm dating a white man is if he's 6'5",
06:33:00.460
Wait, pull that one back up, Nick, really quick.
06:33:03.560
Only way I'm dating a white man is if he's 6'5",
06:33:07.380
What kind of, what are the stats if he's Pacific Islander?
06:33:21.680
But like European Hispanic, not like Latin America Hispanic.
06:33:28.760
It's the same answer for every race that you say.
06:33:35.400
Nah, I want to permanently ruin your self-esteem and make you lose all self-respect.
06:33:45.600
Ugly subs deserve to be ball-bust into infertility.
06:33:48.380
You don't deserve to reproduce and pass on those god-awful genes.
06:34:00.780
This kind of goes back to the, like, injury component of the conversations we were having.
06:34:12.460
So, like, is it a thing if you do the stepping on their junk that they can become infertile?
06:34:24.340
Isn't that, like, I mean, I guess it's part of the kink, right?
06:34:38.080
But if a guy tweeted that and said, like, because you guys, you know, do sex work, basically, you shouldn't reproduce.
06:34:47.420
Like, that would be a terrible, offensive tweet.
06:34:49.740
No, I think it would be more like, I'm going to punch a chick in the fallopian tube so many fucking times that she's never going to be able to reproduce ever.
06:35:05.280
But you're, like, you're offended if someone said that about you, right?
06:35:11.940
Ladies, I will punch you in the fallopian tubes if you pay me.
06:35:29.660
But I'm also responding to the DMs from all the women who want to, like, get sidekicked and shit because, you know, they're into this.
06:35:47.080
Because, like, I feel like the way you just so eloquently and articulately just, like, just fuck people up verbally.
06:35:57.080
I feel like there's some chick who's DMed you and been like, can you do that to me?
06:36:18.020
Andrew, he obviously denied the request, but he does get women who are willing to pay him money to...
06:36:26.440
No, he must have some kind of mass sex appeal or something because my DMs are always filled to the fucking brim with women.
06:36:32.500
Look, young Andrew, can we pull up young Andrew?
06:36:46.800
Andrew, can I hear you say that you're a 10 and you're a queen?
06:37:07.320
It's all about how you feel and maybe I feel like a 10.
06:37:37.000
Like, you think when that picture, that Andrew, like, that you would ever be good enough for
06:37:45.200
Like, women really think a lot of themselves, you know?
06:37:52.060
We'd have been walking through the high school campus and been like, we just walked right
06:38:17.640
He told me this in confidence, but I'm fucking backstabbing you, Andrew.
06:38:20.800
He told me he used to work as one of those shirtless guys in Abercrombie & Fitch.
06:38:42.640
And he went to the retreats, too, that Abercrombie & Fitch did.
06:38:52.940
He also was quite well-developed in the chest and abdominal region.
06:40:21.820
And then we can give all the time and attention to Laura.
06:40:35.300
Why are you giving so many attention for all these tweets?
06:40:46.800
I already said I like to beat a dead horse, but we'll tell you what.
06:40:51.120
We'll take a brief break from the tweets for three minutes.
06:41:00.620
Like, what are you, why are you putting so many times energy?
06:41:32.500
Do you want to, do you want to contribute to the conversation?
06:41:50.100
Because I went through her Twitter and I found some of the tweets that I thought were objectionable.
06:41:58.020
And I wanted to confront her on her man-hating and evilness.
06:42:08.180
In fact, we're going to do a call to action at the end of the show and see if we can convert these two to Orthodox Christians.
06:42:18.300
I have a lot of faith in God, but I'm not sure I have enough faith in us, Brian.
06:42:27.720
No, of course, everybody's welcome to convert to Orthodoxy, of course.
06:42:55.860
Because we are here for six and a half hours, so that's why.
06:43:14.020
I'm bored, but I also don't have fuck all to say.
06:43:32.800
How late do you typically stay at the bar or a nightclub?
06:44:30.980
Is it typically the things like this, what the girls are experiencing, more valuable to
06:44:42.840
I'm just curious about statistically, like, what is more interesting for men to hear?
06:45:01.540
Brian has done 195 episodes with morons like you.
06:45:06.220
The master has failed more times than the apprentice has even attempted.
06:45:11.640
Heaven forbid a woman put in the equivalent of a work day in a high-rise apartment in Southern
06:45:22.780
Nick, pull up that cleaning video of the guy in the sewers with the cockroaches crawling
06:45:28.380
So, anyway, the idea is that oftentimes, unless a woman's being interviewed or feels like she's
06:45:38.840
being interviewed, she doesn't really have that much to participate in when it comes to
06:45:44.220
And so, these are like megala gold mines, these tweets, which could expand into great
06:45:49.640
conversations, but nobody's really participating in it, right?
06:45:53.900
And so, it's like, okay, well, if that's not the topic that you want, what is the topic
06:46:06.560
I'm going to move off of the meta conversation, but, I mean, I would just point out, like, yeah,
06:46:14.140
I wake up, I start work, and then I do another two or three hours of work after this.
06:46:19.360
I do a 16-hour day twice a week, and then I work 70, 80 hours, 70 to 80 hours a week.
06:46:25.580
So, I'm sorry that I'm not here to pamper you conversationally, and that you have to,
06:46:31.140
woe is you, you've got to sit here and talk to people for the equivalent of a work shift.
06:46:37.260
I do apologize for putting you through this absolutely brutal, brutal thing and keeping
06:46:47.500
In fact, I've been accused of actually doing torture on the women here by keeping them
06:46:54.120
here for the equivalent of a full-time work shift.
06:46:58.380
I admit to my abuse that I sleep deprive the women by keeping them here until sometimes
06:47:13.660
I know that, I know that I'm not, but I have a TV show on Roku, I work for Patty Stanger's
06:47:19.140
company, I'm not nobody, and I'm not saying I'm Candace level at all.
06:47:32.500
I stay for the duration of the show, and I have a fucking huge show, huge show.
06:47:40.840
I was just honestly saying, I'm on Florida Time, I'm a mom, I'm different than these girls,
06:47:53.720
You said you were a wife, you never said you're a mother.
06:48:02.620
So to answer your question, Natalie Winters has been on the show three, four times.
06:48:07.620
To my recollection, she's stayed the entire time, all the time.
06:48:11.800
Candace Owens pre-cleared it with us that she could only do two to three hours.
06:48:16.200
Mind you, she was like eight or nine months pregnant at the time, and she was on a very
06:48:21.440
specific media tour, which required her to be in some other city the next day.
06:48:32.600
Just nobody is questioning hard work, absolutely.
06:48:36.120
You are super workaholic, and nobody questioned that.
06:48:40.740
The whole question was like, is this interesting for audience?
06:48:46.760
To bring the value, to bring the interest, for people to engage them.
06:49:01.340
I was asking, like, is this the topic that's actually interesting for males to hear?
06:49:09.420
Oh, I just don't know the demographics of your, of the viewers.
06:49:33.960
So I'll take a, well, Nick, since you're here, I want to try to blast through the tweets.
06:49:37.320
How many do we have left, since you're only here for a few more minutes?
06:49:42.240
Okay, let's just try to blast through them super quick, then.
06:49:47.980
It's like, I'm just re-saying the same stuff over and over.
06:49:50.640
Imagine asking me out, and I brutally reject you, but you are so eager to get my attention
06:49:58.580
In case you had a bad day, here's something to make it worse.
06:50:09.460
I'm about to buy a house by the end of the year, at age 18, while you're still living with
06:50:32.120
I have the biggest fuckboy from high school begging to take me shopping, debating if I
06:50:36.260
should just take the 500 and block him, or let him fly me out to spend another 2K.
06:50:40.920
I kind of almost compare it to if I was on Joe Rogan and he wanted to continue the conversation
06:51:05.660
In no fucking world would I ever say to him, oh, I'm so fucking bored, Joe Rogan, you fucking
06:51:15.720
I would grit my teeth and I would just keep a positive disposition and I would, oh, I'm
06:51:23.480
a little tired, that's okay, this is a cool opportunity, I'll keep a pleasant demeanor and
06:51:29.320
I'll be chipper, I'll be chipper, that's the word.
06:51:32.500
All right, let's get through the tweets if we can.
06:51:37.980
You're like, put your, you have your, oh wait, scroll down.
06:51:52.420
I'm going to interrupt you, Brian, I need to go, because I'm getting hungry, getting...
06:51:57.380
Oh, we got applesauce, do you want some applesauce?
06:52:04.340
Before you leave, why don't you, why, no, no, no, before you leave, why don't you actually
06:52:13.780
All right, Morgan, you can take the seat, please.
06:52:50.180
I have seen Molly Little sit through the entire podcast numerous times.
06:52:54.400
I guarantee her time is worth more than Candace's.
06:53:14.440
Yeah, now I'm left with all these average looking men.
06:53:22.140
If only we could have kept the most beautiful woman.
06:53:27.300
And the best personalities with a ton to contribute.
06:53:33.420
I don't, I really don't know where we're going to go with this show without having
06:53:43.340
I mean, like, how could we even really have a show here without having, I mean, they were
06:53:49.660
They really, the focus was all on them the entire time.
06:53:54.500
We didn't even get to the part about how I like Asian women, which is disappointing.
06:53:58.500
I feel like the whole, I feel like you just nerfed the whole show, man, just like that.
06:54:03.620
I mean, they were the centerpiece of this entire thing.
06:54:06.900
And, you know, you just, you just ran them right out of there.
06:54:09.520
I want, it would have been good if they saw the bow video.
06:54:12.600
You should probably end it now because, like, they're gone, you know.
06:54:16.400
There's a little stereotyping there going on, Brian, you know.
06:54:46.220
The next time my human ashtray stub pisses me off, I'm making him drink the dirty bong water.
06:54:58.500
I bet I look like a sweet, innocent little girl to most people, but no one would suspect
06:55:04.740
that I'm actually robbing and degrading dumb men on the internet.
06:55:22.060
Just drained a sub of 1,500 while his wife is sleeping right next to him.
06:56:02.080
Also, I feel like some of these tweets, like...
06:56:03.920
I've literally warned you and told you a million times.
06:56:06.220
Also, I mean, I know she's gone, but, like, some of these tweets are, like, dating topics.
06:56:12.040
Like, nothing precludes the rest of the panel from, like...
06:56:21.840
Nothing would have precluded other panelists for...
06:56:24.460
No, actually, I think it's better when the man...
06:56:30.400
The way every sub I've met up with always says,
06:57:15.080
Living my pretty privileged life funded by ugly men on the internet.
06:57:29.620
I'm going to just lead him on and use him until there's nothing left.
06:57:48.760
Why did you block him if he's buying you Prada and giving you money and everything?
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It's just like this man crying from pain because he's hitting himself in the balls.
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Prove the meaner you are to men, the more obsessed they become.
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So, Knight, today kind of broke me, but still looking forward to future sins, because that's
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No Dom's ever been that mean to me, not going to lie, Knight.
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I mean, I put on my application, I'm like, you're just better than...
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Is it really an act, or do you have a lot of anger at men, and this helps you take it
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Like, let's be real, because these tweets are crazy, so...
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It's a bit exaggerated, but you do enjoy your job, yeah?
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Do you feel that you have unresolved anger at a male figure?
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I am the best when it comes to ruining men's self-esteem.
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You have no idea, well, maybe some idea, but I've been doing this sort of thing for a while
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now, which, with much more experienced doms, and never have I felt that degraded and owned,
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At 18, you probably have no idea that, like, men are, I, personally, I think men are amazing.
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Like, I value and love my husband so much, and I just think men are great.
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Like, my husband makes my life better every single day.
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So, I, it's like, it is really hard to see these tweets, and just, like, I mean, I just,
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I guess I just want you to know, in the future, like, men are great.
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You should, like, appreciate and worship them the way they worship you, not, like, degrade
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Like, I just want you to know it's very, very, very unhealthy, and I'm just saying.
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My ugliest white sub for reaching my 1K club, I guess.
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When you say white, I'm assuming you're talking about his skin color?
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Okay, you just moved back from Madrid, and you went on a date with a Spanish guy, only
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After having lunch and going to the park, he started talking to me very explicit, using
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So, what are some of the things he sent via Google Translate?
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So, at the end of the day, we were sitting at the park, and he said a couple things in
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Spanish, and I was visually, I liked, confused.
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And in the Google Translate, first, he started asking me questions.
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For example, have you ever been with a Spanish man?
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And then he says, I've never been with a black woman before.
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And then he says, well, I would really like for us to engage in sex.
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And then he was like, well, is it okay if, like, we do masturbation?
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And then it was just, like, an awkward silence, because this is all on Google Translate.
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Just in Google, go Google Translate, and it will come up.
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Yeah, so it was, like, the first and only date.
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I thought he was, like, speaking that shit in Spanish.
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You said you wanted to talk about male-female roles, women thinking they're the same as men.
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I think I've watched some previous episodes where women might have shared that they can do the same things in terms of jobs as men.
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Whether that be working in construction, whether that be in the sewage.
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They think they are able or would do any job that a man does.
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It's just, like, some random dude named Connor sent me a...
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And also, like, kind of what we were talking about earlier, that men working, women staying at home, I think it's definitely a privilege to stay at home while a man's working.
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And you said, I would say, I disagree with women thinking they can do things like OF and find a husband within their criteria.
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What Laura was saying earlier, like, women wanting, oh, I want him to make six figures.
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I want him to be six foot, I want him to do this and have a yacht.
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And when you are in sex work, I just think that you wanting that, you have to be more realistic about your criteria and what you...
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Even when you're not, like, I'll present these girls a 6'3", good-looking guy who makes a ton of money.
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The underscore, simple underscore, Connor donated $100.
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I said, even if they don't do OF, like, I will present a girl, like, a great guy, at least on paper.
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Like, obviously, she hasn't met him yet, but, like, my client.
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You know, 6'3", makes well over six figures, handsome, and she'll be like, oh, he's not really my type.
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You can't even bother to get ready, go to a five-star dinner.
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Why do you think a lot of women are like that today?
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I mean, I just think it runs really deep in society and TikTok.
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I mean, looking for a man in finance, 6'5", blue eyes.
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That's, like, they did the statistics that there's two men that fit that criteria in the entire country.
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Like, but every girl thinks, like, they're going to find that guy.
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And I just think women just, they have unrealistic standards.
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Like, my guys come to me, they're looking for a woman that doesn't exist.
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Like, there aren't that many eligible men out there versus eligible women.
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So, I think when you find a good guy that you're attracted to that does okay, you shouldn't care if he's 6'5".
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Like, you need to have an open mind as a woman.
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And you should be going on every date unless he's, like, a complete ogre and you're just, like, I'm not attracted.
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But, I mean, to have this criteria and be so delusional that you're waiting, you know, waiting it out for Brad Pitt, it's just, it's tough.
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I am loyal and smart and funny sometimes, and I do make my own money, and I've been independent.
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Are you able to scoot this way just a little bit in your chair so we can get her scooted in?
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Uh, she doesn't speak English, so we're going to skip her.
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I believe in supporting a man, and I believe in being a homemaker and a nurturer.
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Um, loyal, smart, sweet, and kind, but with a tough exterior.
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Well, first of all, I think I can bring a lot more than I am bringing to the relationship
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to my marriage already, so there is quite a bit of room.
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Quickly, if you can, just so I can get through everybody.
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Um, yeah, so, uh, personally, I think I should be bringing more, uh, to the relationship than
07:10:47.120
Um, I definitely, but, um, my husband is pretty happy, you know, so, um, I absolutely forever
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grateful to him for everything that he does for the family.
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So, gratitude, respect, appreciation, but definitely, uh, really, lots of room to grow for me personally.
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Um, I mean, I, I just, like, don't like this question for a variety of reasons, but I, of
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I adore my husband, have a ton of admiration for him.
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Um, obviously, I bring to the table my incredible fertility.
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He said that on our first date, and I said, that's, wow, that's, that's, like, a lot of kids.
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Like, I want a big family, and he got his four kids and two pregnancies.
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So, I would say, like, that, that's bringing a lot to the table.
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Was there any, like, I know, were you taking any fertility things?
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Because, can't that cause, like, uh, twins and triplets?
07:12:09.260
Well, what's the, um, what's the contrast here?
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Like, Brian, what would you say you brought to the table?
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Will you go 50-50 with your billionaire future wife?
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Will you go 50-50 with your billionaire future wife?
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I'm not picky when it comes to billionaire women, okay?
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Are you dating someone now that you go 50-50 with?
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I'm not at liberty to discuss my relationship status.
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I've got a, uh, stalker, so I don't talk about certain things.
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I've been on more first dates where I paid 50-50 than I haven't.
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You said some dates you go 50-50 and some you don't.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm wondering, like, I'm wondering, like, what, is that the criteria?
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I guess that's, that's a component of it, but, uh.
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Wait, can you stop playing with your chapstick or whatever?
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I mean, it's more recently because I, I mean, I'm, like, the past two or three years or whatever,
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I've been making more money, so I'm more, more open to, like, just paying for, paying for it.
07:14:39.340
And, I mean, it depends, too, but, like, the women that I've chosen to date have been a little, uh, vetted a little better, I guess.
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I only date women, I only date women with large labias.
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Like, I'm actually trying to find a woman with, like, Guinness World Record labia.
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Okay, also, uh, this is my ex-girlfriend, so this is what I expect.
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Listen, it, it took me, you know, I had to train her a little bit.
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She had to be trained, um, but, uh, she did, she did well.
07:16:05.180
I'm not sure about the stirring the noodles while he's sitting down.
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Like, I feel like the noodles should have been stirred before he sat down.
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But, Andrew, you, I think it was a couple of shows ago when it came to the bow video.
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If you can make the point again, uh, or I think it was Rachel who said, that's basic.
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You go into her room and you start banging some pots together.
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Rachel, Rachel's like a, she's like a evil secret weapon that you only want to deploy when, like, the worst of the worst are on.
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And this, this just isn't the worst of the worst.
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You don't want to, you don't want to like, you don't want to bring out the cannon.
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When, you know, just like a bat will do the job type of thing.
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But anyway, I mean, pretty stark contrast, though, in what's being brought to the table.
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I think it's interesting, the difference in answers between men and women.
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I see that women usually seem to give this answer that what they bring to the table is their kind of cheerful disposition and that, you know, I'm smart and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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But, I mean, they all think they're smart, right?
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There's nobody who's like, oh, well, I think I'm really stupid.
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So, I always just think that the kind of contrast there is interesting to see.
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The girl that got kicked out thinks she's a genius.
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Also, if you speak five languages, I think you're pretty damn smart, so.
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So, I found this out as well, kind of going through my research.
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As I've been making more money, I've been more open to just paying for it.
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But, yeah, the five languages things, when you're a little kid, you're like a sponge.
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And if you are engrossed, like most people in Eastern European countries are, in multiple languages, very easy to absorb and pick up.
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Now, if you're 30 years old and you pick up five languages, then I'm fucking impressed.
07:18:28.720
Well, I only picked up two languages when I was growing up, so.
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When I was like 18, 19, and then America, like I learned, English, I learned it in school, but it was more when I came to America, I learned it more.
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I speak Russian, Romanian, Spanish, French, Italian.
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It's kind of hard when you speak, like, at 12 o'clock, or what time is it, and 1 o'clock, change different languages.
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et je ferai tout mon possible pour changer l'avenir,
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Et je ferai tout mon possible pour changer l'avenir.
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Here, let me just Google it, make sure I have it right.
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Yeah, I thought it was the future, but it was like...
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Okay, I want to change the destiny of my public.
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Now, I'm probably going to get cancelled in France for saying that shit,
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but France is fucking lost, boys, and we must reclaim France.
07:21:50.620
When I was a kid, I walked to the Eiffel Tower.
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There was never a soldier with a firearm, never a soldier with a gun.
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Now you go to France, fucking soldiers everywhere, the gendered marie,
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France is lost, and I can't get into the reasons why, but it's kind of sad.
07:22:08.980
Well, that's because their economy crashed because all the white flag factories went out of business, right?
07:22:13.720
Andrew, how are you going to do me dirty like that, bro?
07:22:19.520
Andrew, you know, Andrew, I just want to say, I just want to say, Andrew, if it not had been for French intervention in the Civil War.
07:22:57.640
The French were very helpful when it came to the Revolutionary War.
07:23:02.800
Well, actually, they sent us a ton of equipment that didn't work, just so you know.
07:23:06.980
The muskets that they sent didn't work because they were designed by the French.
07:23:13.340
Andrew, I will not allow you to slander the good works of the French during the Revolutionary War.
07:23:35.540
We need to make the ugliest statue you've ever seen and put it right on the shore of New York where all the immigrants come in.
07:23:45.880
But it, look, all I'm saying, I see what's happening in Europe.
07:23:58.700
Brian, did you see, though, when France had their, they had their yellow vest uprising that was going on?
07:24:11.520
So they were wearing, like, their little yellow safety vest when they were out.
07:24:16.580
When you're protesting against your government, you've got to be safe, right?
07:24:20.320
Well, I mean, I feel like you've got to give the French credit here.
07:24:28.140
As long as it's safe and they can wear their little yellow vest, right?
07:24:58.100
But the point was, you were trying to test if she's fluent.
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I was just kind of being a snarky, smartass for no particularly good reason.
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With the blood of our enemies, we will fertilize our soil.
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With the blood of our enemies, we will fertilize our soil.
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I want to tell you about the, did you know that they just replaced recently the entire
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And they gave, what they did was they took the ships and they made them have glass floors
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and that's so that the new French fleet can see the old French fleet.
07:26:07.720
I was just saying that the new French fleet has glass floors so that they can see the
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It has five reverse gears, but it does have one forward gear in case the enemy comes from
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Did you just Google, did you just Google like how to dunk on French people?
07:26:54.120
Like, are you against the patriarchy or for it?
07:26:59.140
I just, I absolutely believe that we, you know, we are in basically a male run society.
07:27:09.960
I mean, I was just saying when you guys were asking, are you going to be better looking
07:27:13.980
I'm like, according to this society, like older women are not as attractive as older
07:27:22.880
But is that patriarchy or is that just like biology or whatever?
07:27:28.340
I mean, there are certain cultures that do think older women are still beautiful, but
07:27:32.580
absolutely it is biological for men to be attracted to youth and fertility.
07:27:37.260
But at a certain point, if a man is like 55, 60, and he's done having kids, why should
07:27:44.500
he care if a woman is like 45 and she looks great, but he's probably still going to choose
07:27:49.360
the 35 year old, even though he doesn't want to have kids with her.
07:27:57.020
Most of my clients in their fifties and sixties, they're just starting to have a family.
07:28:01.940
Their marriage is for the first time and they want to have kids.
07:28:19.220
I normally see like older dads in bigger cities.
07:28:46.240
How many of you women are open to marriage with a significant age gap?
07:29:23.820
I mean, it depends how old I am that I'm getting married.
07:29:26.940
Like I should be, if I was 25, that's when your brain fully develops.
07:29:46.840
But even the people who created the data that you're referencing there for the prefrontal cortex saying it's not completely developed until it's 25, say specifically in the study,
07:29:58.260
do not read into this, that this means anything.
07:30:03.060
It doesn't mean that we're saying that this is when a person is an adult, can be an adult, can make rational decisions.
07:30:21.880
When you're 25, you would consider a man for yourself who is like 40.
07:30:37.760
If you stood in your DMs and was like, I want to take you out on a date, you would say no to Brad Pitt?
07:30:43.240
Honestly, I would have an asexual relationship with Brad Pitt.
07:30:55.520
He's 60 years old and he has a 34-year-old girlfriend that he just went public with at the Venice Film Festival.
07:31:05.380
But I feel like, I feel like it depends on the guy and you might say yes to a guy.
07:31:26.720
Because the clientele that, Laura, right, dealing with, she's saying that women normally don't consider the age gaps.
07:31:36.880
You know what I actually find, which is absolutely bizarre.
07:31:40.200
So, for instance, like, I have a bunch of, you know, my clients are 40s, 50s, 60s, generally.
07:31:45.360
There are some 30s, but, you know, generally it's 40s, 50s, 60s.
07:31:49.420
So I have some really good-looking, like, 60-year-old clients.
07:31:57.440
I mean, there's only 800 billionaires in America around that.
07:32:04.560
It's, like, the guy's 6'2", he's handsome, he looks really good.
07:32:07.720
Like, I'm not going to say he's Brad Pitt, but, you know, he's attractive.
07:32:11.320
And the funny thing is it's easier for me to call a 30-year-old.
07:32:15.280
She'll be, like, yes, I'd love to go on a date.
07:32:16.920
If you ask a 52-year-old woman, she's, like, oh, no, that's way too old for me.
07:32:23.840
And, no, no, no, she has this whole, like, story for me.
07:32:27.920
Even if the guy's open to, you know, dating a woman in her 40s and 50s, which they are.
07:32:33.400
Like, they're, like, if she looks good, I'm open to it.
07:32:39.200
Even if I give them a 30-year-old or say, like, hey, like, do you want to go with a 30-year-old?
07:32:42.180
They're, like, do you think that she's mature enough for me?
07:32:50.560
I feel like, unfortunately, I just see a trend of women getting bitter with age and, like, just being a little bit in denial and being, like, I look younger than my age.
07:32:59.400
I mean, if I had a dollar for every woman that told me that, I'd be very rich.
07:33:10.460
I wouldn't be a billionaire, but, you know, I would have some cash.
07:33:17.300
I'm going to, we have a few more notes to get through, and I'm going to try to wrap up the show here fairly soon.
07:33:36.220
Girl in the black and the German is the only person close to a 10.
07:34:19.060
Oh, professional matchmaker for wealthy, high value men.
07:34:29.020
But generally men don't want to be coached, especially wealthy ones.
07:34:39.920
What advice would you give a man like me who's trying to find a billionaire woman?
07:34:49.460
I've realized as I've gotten older and less attractive that I deserve more and have higher standards.
07:34:57.200
I want a rich woman to support my lifestyle while I give her sex three times a week tops.
07:35:07.000
Like you'll like, you'll sleep with like an unattractive 55 year old.
07:35:10.640
I just want to know so I can give you the proper advice.
07:35:30.840
She, she's going to bequeath me all her, her estate, her, her, her money.
07:35:36.680
Well, whatever the law is, like if you don't sign a prenup, you get half of the marital,
07:35:45.060
That's something you'd have to negotiate with her.
07:35:48.460
Let's just say, you know, just 50 million, Brian's fine.
07:35:56.180
But, you know, in the prenup, that way you're sure to get, she doesn't get caught up in
07:36:03.380
If she's a billionaire, if I'm piping down a granny, I'm getting a billion.
07:36:14.620
Uh, I will go up to 99 because I'm nice at that.
07:36:37.760
My advice is, my specific advice, you know, there is a market for this.
07:36:48.080
They want a younger, sexy man to make them feel good, you know?
07:37:11.260
They at least have booze at the Charity Functions.
07:37:34.300
What are we getting if I find you this weekend?
07:38:07.600
Like, shouldn't you be going for a 96-year-old?
07:38:11.820
I know a girl who dated this guy that was in his 80s.
07:38:26.340
Sometimes he would want to have sex, so she would have to give him a beautiful pill to make him fall asleep.
07:38:33.640
And then the next day, she'll tell him, like, oh, my God, we had such an amazing time.
07:38:38.320
Anyways, 10 years later, finally, he passes away.
07:38:41.980
And he leaves her, like, four apartments in London.
07:38:45.480
And something, she became, like, a full-on real estate developer, blah, blah, blah.
07:38:50.080
So she wasted 10 years of her life, but she didn't really waste it because in her 30s, she became a multimillionaire.
07:38:59.120
Like, all these, you know, gold digger girls are like, Anna, she's the idol.
07:39:09.300
And actually, because she didn't have a prenup.
07:39:13.040
But because there was no prenup written with the law, his son came after her and went to court and was like, absolutely not.
07:39:19.940
Like, this gold digger is not getting any of my dad's money.
07:39:22.960
And the court sided with him, you know, honestly, as they should have.
07:39:30.620
So can I answer your question about the, you said to two matchmakers, right?
07:39:35.560
He was just giving, he was saying he's going to give us a bonus to find.
07:39:41.420
I feel like, Brian, if you were a hot chick, you would do damage.
07:39:48.340
You would like, if Brian was a hot chick, he would be married to like a 65-year-old billionaire.
07:39:53.720
And he would just be like on his fifth marriage, like raking it in.
07:40:11.840
If I was, if I had my male brain in a woman, oh my.
07:40:16.620
If you, like, if you were a hot chick for three days, what damage would you do?
07:40:35.540
Would you like, would you do any of this stuff?
07:40:39.340
Or would you just go, like, try to find a billionaire to marry?
07:41:06.740
Damn, everybody getting off the table the book.
07:41:12.360
And you guys are back there getting refreshments.
07:41:16.420
You wouldn't use your, like, hot female power and pretty privilege to, like, fuck shit up a little bit?
07:41:21.660
Would you be a butch lesbian or, like, girly lesbian?
07:41:53.220
So, getting through your notes, Laura, you said you had some great experiences dating and bad ones when you were single.
07:42:01.100
You ended up moving to Florida, find your dream husband, father of four, you found your dream husband and father of your four children, two sets of natural twin boys.
07:42:10.340
You used to be, you used to be a professional model and actress living in L.A. for eight years and New York for three.
07:42:17.060
You were represented by Wilhelmina, is that how you say it?
07:42:26.840
I was working model actress and was happy with my career, but I turned 29.
07:42:30.020
I realized I'd been lied to about working and hustling so hard and went on a mission to really find my man and be a mom.
07:42:36.140
It wasn't easy and I definitely had to leave L.A. to find him.
07:42:40.020
L.A. sucks for dating is what I've heard from a lot of girls.
07:42:59.760
Like, Los Angeles, it has the most beautiful girls in the entire world.
07:43:05.740
Like, you know, busloads of women go there every day with a dream to model and act.
07:43:18.280
You don't, I think L.A., I mean, even in our database matchmaking, we have thousands of
07:43:23.340
Like, all the most beautiful ones are in L.A. and they...
07:44:09.100
Can we get people to sit back down so I can try to move this on a little bit?
07:44:14.460
You said, I'm so happy I never did OnlyFans or anything like that, as obviously I could
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Number one thing my clients tell me is she cannot have done OF or do it.
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Just the other day, my client called to tell me...
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The number one thing my clients tell me is she cannot have done OF or do it.
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We talked about just the other day, my client called to tell me this girl does it, that
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She wasn't our client, so she's in the free database, but I always vet the girls.
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And so this one caught me, because normally the OnlyFans link is right in the Instagram.
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Like, 11 out of 10, honestly, signed with Women Management, which is one of the top model
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Like, they book all the Sports Illustrated girls before SI was woke.
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Like, I mean, I don't know how she, like, hid it like that.
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And when I asked her about it, she said, yeah, like, I didn't want to tell you.
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Yeah, you wrote that the client called to tell you this girl does it.
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He said she was his dream girl but canceled the date and canceled the plane.
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He was going to fly to L.A. just to meet her and take her to dinner.
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He's 40s, 6'2", wants kids and marriage and billion.
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Would you be down to see if you're – would they ever come on the podcast?
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Like, they don't want to admit that they, like, had to hire a matchmaker.
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And it's like – but they also can't be on a dating app.
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See, some of them, they're not just billionaires.
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Like, two of them, you would know who they are.
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So, it's like they can't even be on a dating app because they'll get kicked off.
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Like, Bumble will be like, this is a fake profile because it's a public figure, too.
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There's a lot of other companies that charge, like, per date.
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We just like to, like, you know, I say, like, in six months, if I can't find you a long-term relationship, I have not done my job.
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You know, I don't – you know, I work with a company of seven other matchmakers as well.
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I will not take more than five clients at once, and especially in my new role as a mother, like, three is, like, my max.
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You know, you could at least maybe ask them, see if they're down to – because it would be really interesting.
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It would be super interesting to have a conversation with – listen, listen.
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You girls are all in for reawakening, especially you, Blonde.
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But you have a mouth that just keeps going, stop lying about super private clients.
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Nobody wants to be with your – with your – wait, I'm assuming.
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My husband, who I had four kids with, but okay.
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It won't read it if there's a, like, filtered word.
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We actually – you know, your clients, we've had – the amount of women and men who have come on the show who have met, like, boyfriends, girlfriends, from just being on the show is kind of insane.
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In fact, Andrew, you know this gentleman, Mason.
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They've gone public with this, so I think it's fair game.
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Mason, he's been on the show a handful of times, five, six times, I think.
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He matched with another girl who's been on the show, Alexa, and now they're dating, relationship.
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And if you get me a billionaire, I'll help him – you take the – you take – I'll –
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A billionaire on the show or a billionaire as your wife?
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The male billionaire on the show would be super interesting.
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The biggest thing is to talk about what my high-value male clients actually want.
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This is 1% of men that hire a matchmaker with private chats, handsome and tall, not on dating apps.
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I feel it's important for the girls to learn what that is.
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I also promote family values, having two sets of twins, myself, traditional, masculine, feminine, rural, similar.
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So feel free to have me debate an OF girl, and let's have fun.
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She was like, I do chatterbait in a bathing suit or an explicit contact.
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Going around the table, just show of hands – or just yes or no, actually.
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I don't think we really have time to get into it.
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Kind of, but I want you to define it so I can be sure.
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Yeah, it just means of the father, men are in charge of systems.
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So do I believe that men are in charge of, like, the household?
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Would you rather be, or would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in a forest?
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Well, I'm thinking, like, if I was a man, I would have to have a conversation to convince
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You'd have to have a conversation to convince the bear not to eat me.
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Because if I was a man, a bear is going to eat me, right?
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Which you'd prefer to be stuck in a forest with.
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I don't think I want to be a man who meets a...
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Oh, going around the table, do you think body count matters?
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I just feel out of respect for my husband and children.
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I'm not going to answer the question, but it is low, but I just don't, I just don't feel
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like that's respectful and he would be unhappy if I would answer that at all.
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I might have to piggyback for, like, future-wise.
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For my future husband, I am not comfortable answering this question.
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It's not fair to Mackenzie Bezos for me to answer this question.
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We're going to do a roast session for a few minutes and then we're going to wrap up the
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If you want to get a little roast in, if you want to roast Morgan, if you want to roast
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Anissa, if you want to roast Kylie Lania, Lannis, if you want to roast our home, my Caucasian
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over here, if you want to roast her, you want to roast my three Caucasians over here, you
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If you want to roast this African-American queen, you can too.
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I want to give a big shout out to Andrew Wilson.
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Andrew Wilson, I was thinking about this the other day.
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Andrew Wilson knows that I have, I am sometimes.
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Well, I think there was like some flirtation going on on the show or not.
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There's no, I don't know if they, I don't, I don't think they hooked up.
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I'm heading, I'm heading over to Timcast, what, the, uh, the 19th.
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And then I'm, I'm flying right out to Santa Barbara from there.
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Um, so guys, get your, if you want $20 TTS, a little roast session, you want to roast some
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If you want to roast a, uh, Austrian German lady, if you want to roast, uh, that lady over
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Uh, oh, I was about to say Andrew, you know, Andrew, I got to give props to Andrew.
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Um, can you, uh, I want you to say that you are my Caucasian.
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French underscore car underscore fryer donated $20.
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I can't believe these man haters would come on stream to expose their illegal activities.
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Nobody's gonna buy their services, and the IRS will send them back into homelessness within
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Well, from his perspective, that would be Kylie.
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Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
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Like, why would you think ours is higher than what we said?
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You think if we were really fat and ugly, and we told you our body count was two, you'd
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Fat Kylie is getting all, it's, she's going hard.
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Brixen, there were plenty of soldiers in Paris in June of 1940.
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Maybe they couldn't find the forward gear in their danks.
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Didn't France surrender in World War II in like three weeks?
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Didn't they surrender in like three weeks, I think?
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I don't know about three weeks, but the Battle of Normandy was pretty gruesome.
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Speaking of which, who do you guys think is the primary...
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Wait, oh, I asked that to the fucking demon over there.
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Who do you guys think is the primary victim of war, men or women?
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So, but I do know for a fact that the 1920s, the roaring 20s, was when people were celebrating,
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So, I know the dates were somewhere in 1910 to ending, you know, before 1920.
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That's why women outlive men by six years on average.
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Which girl do the guests think is the best looking at the table?
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The answer is, who do you guys think is the best looking girl here?
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Today, we would be lost without men, but I still deserve more, such as push presents.
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Also, as far as this World War II, World War stuff goes.
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Andrew, if Trump becomes the 47th president, do we get a $47 flash sale on Debate University?
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Listen, just so you know, if Trump becomes the president of these United States, what we
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will do with Debate University is sell it to you for $499.
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Started 19, I think, 39, the beginning of stuff.
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Yeah, I was going to say 1939 to 1945, but I believe officially it's like 1940 to 1945.
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I always thought it ended in 1943 and started around 1940.
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At this rate, I'm going to end up as a sleeveless crop top before the end of the night.
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Both these girls need to be roasted, by the way.
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They need to be roasted because they step on men's balls.
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Mason, find you a girl that looks at you like your girlfriend looks at Jake in episode 154.
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Has anyone guessed wrong to that question before?
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Who here is willing to remove their makeup before the end of the show?
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Now you know why that dude took $7,500 of your money, right?
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I will end the stream in three minutes if you take your makeup off.
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I'll give you, I'll tell you what, if you guys take off your makeup, I'll give you each
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I had $2 bill and I think I threw it away because it didn't.
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I'm not going to give you one if you're going to do this.
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So Alicia Keys didn't wear makeup for a really long time.
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So you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
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I'll take off my makeup if you take off your makeup.
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Well, they do if they're, you know, like broadcasters, right?
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We're going to do a raid for, or a raid on Twitch.
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We're going to raid this guy named, actually, hold on.
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You brought up that everybody should raid, like, everyone and nobody did.
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Guys, I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity
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Would you consider stopping your degeneracy entirely?
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The underscore war underscore within donated $20.
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Morgan looking nice when she does not have her RBF on, which she did last show, I believe.
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Congratulations to the TikTok brain dopamine addicted teenagers for outlasting the old delusional
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hags that had to go to bed because it was past their bedtime.
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Champagne pop for Big Daddy B if everybody goes and subscribe to my Avonlevan.
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Did you see that fucking APM fucking actions per minute?
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The society you're living in and growing up in has, how do I say this politely, has indoctrinated
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The, it is sex work, essentially, what you guys are doing.
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Perhaps you could get into some, you know, even if you're just doing like content creation.
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I would like to get into another one or something.
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Whoever fights monsters should see to it then that in the process she does not become a monster.
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And if you gaze long enough into the abyss, the abyss, fuck, how do I remember this?
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I feel like I just, I just started so it hasn't affected me as much.
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That are, you know, above the board, hopefully.
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I'm just saying, you could be a model or something.
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I want to, I've always wanted to try modeling, but I don't know.
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And I'll say, for example, I mean, having done the podcast,
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for two years, like, it's different than what you guys do.
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But, like, doing this kind of shit, it takes a toll on you, you know?
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I don't do sex work, but even just doing what I do takes a toll on me.
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This stuff has to be taking a toll on you in some way.
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You guys probably make good money or you'll make good money.
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If you quit right this second, if you quit right now, I can tell you your future.
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Your future is you're going to have a lot less money in your pocket in the short term.
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This will just be a funny story that you'll be able to tell your kids one day and nobody will.
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Morgan, saw you out on the street on the deleted livestream.
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Because you were talking to, like, a Mexican guy.
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The one thing that you will have, though, is...
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Is that one time I tried this stupid thing when I was 18.
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It'll be a funny story that you can remember fondly, right?
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Every single day that passes is one more day where that will not be the case.
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Until it becomes two years and it becomes three years.
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That becomes part of what you are and who you are and how you're always remembered.
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But if you walk away right this second, it'll hurt your wallet, right?
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I sell courses on it, so I can't just quit ASAP.
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I feel like I would have to try something else before quitting.
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We're always looking to bring on more background characters.
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I'll even give, if you wanted to, you can be, but here's the thing.
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It's not going to pay as well as what you're doing, but it'll pay.
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There's a lot of girls that try this and they're not successful.
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I'm not trying to be rude and diminish your e-book.
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This is what you're doing now, and it could just be a funny memory.
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Like, the girls that do actual pornography, like, where it's there forever to haunt them.
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You just did this goofy thing where they sent you some cash and you told them to do crazy shit, right?
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You could literally walk away tomorrow, and it would be a distant memory before you knew it.
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It's the opportunity that nobody ever gets, and you have it.
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Now, let me predict what your actual future is going to be when you just kind of, like, say,
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It's going to graduate post-wall until you get into sex work, and that is all you're going to be known for for the rest of your existence.
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Once that money drives up, see, you think that money, it'll always come easy?
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Right now, it's coming easy, and your dumb ass probably isn't saving a dime of it.
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And, you know, almost nobody ever does, even though they claim they do.
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Can I get a copy of your course for free, by the way?
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I'm just curious, like, because I'm, like, trying to bag, like, Mackenzie, you know?
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Yeah, you want to use it on The Billionaire, I'm going to find you.
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Okay, let me let the chats come through, then we'll wrap.
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Crystalline underscore pink underscore bill donated $20.
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It's an old saying my country uncles and aunts used to say about hard-headed young folks acting like donkeys.
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You know, it'd be funny if I made this offer to all the, like, OF girls, and they all took it,
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and I literally had a fucking literal army of ex-OF girls wearing fucking World War I pickle hobbas.
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But they wouldn't miss it, their work, if they actually connected with God.
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Any final thoughts before I wrap up from anybody?
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I know it's been a long show, guys, so I'm sure you guys are keen to get this going.
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If you're still watching, just hit the like button.
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You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and so generously supports the show.
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Should we do another little K-pop dance or whatever?
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I thought you were doing the illit dance from their...
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Don't ask me how I know about fucking K-pop female.
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We'll be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific with another...
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara 07s in the chat.
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I wish I said ta-ta, by the way, to these two girls who left here, but whatever.
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I love all my online content and believe it's beautiful.
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I don't understand why so many people are disgusted by human sexuality.
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If you're watching on Twitch, pull up the Twitch tab.
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Drop us a follow on the Prime sub if you have one.
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Guys, it's been one hour since we've had a Prime.
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If you walk the dogs, then you have probably...
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Bro, let me wrap the show, Desiree, you fucking d-gen.
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I'm a degenerate, and I love sexually assaulting people.
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He was playing World of Warcraft, but I guess he's taking a break.
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This guy is one of the best mages in World of Warcraft.
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He's playing World of Warcraft, the new expansion.
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We're just going to watch him for just a sec here.
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Like, they just like to talk about girls and stuff, right?
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Go there and tell them how many rank one titles I have?
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They live in fear, probably young to even understand their writing, which is their parents' fault.
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Like, the thing is, if I posted this, if I posted that on social media.
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Before, if you want me to raid you, Andrew, you have to do it.
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I said where the fingers are going the opposite direction?
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And then if you start one, I think it'd probably be easier to mentally move the other one.
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Natalia, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.