Whatever Podcast - INSANE Losing VlRGlNlTY Story？! She DETRANSlTIONED？! She Got ARRESTED？! Andrew! ｜ Dating Talk #194

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00:03:21.120 without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name,

00:03:25.960 age, location, and occupation. Go ahead. I'm the infamous Desiree Noel. Doomsday.

00:03:31.460 Desiree. Doomsday Desiree. That's me. I'm basically the 38 year old version of your

00:03:38.820 conspiracy theory stoner friend, but like mom version. So anyway, I have a lot of interest

00:03:45.660 these days. So stay at home mom of three homeschooling this year. Okay. And so I do OnlyFans to make 1.00

00:03:55.360 my money. I am actually, Brian, you word on the street is you have made me into the number

00:04:01.440 one pog milf on OnlyFans globally. So for those of you who don't know the street terms,

00:04:09.440 that is a fat ass white girl. Milf is mom. I'd like to fornicate with. So I'm the number one 1.00

00:04:17.420 natural in the natural category. No BBL. So that's kind of cool. Can we not do the, the,

00:04:23.840 the hand gesturing? It's kind of getting into my frame on the camera. Sorry. I like to keep my

00:04:29.460 frame clear, but okay. That's cool. I guess. And I wrote a couple of books. They're on Amazon.

00:04:36.360 All right. What about you? I'm Vivian. I turned 18 last month. I'm from San Francisco. Originally,

00:04:46.800 I just live in the Bay and my occupation is, well, I don't, I'm unemployed. Unfortunately,

00:04:53.900 I'm looking for a job, but. Are you a NEET? Do you know what that is? NEET? N-E-E-T?

00:05:01.600 No, I don't know what that means. So it stands for not in employment, education, or training.

00:05:07.040 Yes. So you're not in school. Not. I'm like taking a gap year before I go to college. I'm taking a gap

00:05:14.200 year before I go to college. So I'm not in school yet, but probably next year. Okay. And we tried to

00:05:20.600 get your mom to come on the show with you for the first mother, daughter, whatever, but it didn't work.

00:05:26.620 Didn't work. But okay, cool. What about you? My name is Jade Martin. I am 24. I'm from California.

00:05:35.860 And I'm a Twitch streamer. All right. Um, from California. Okay. And politically incorrect

00:05:44.260 on Twitter. So politically incorrect on Twitter. And you said you're a Twitch streamer. Do you

00:05:49.520 stream video games or just chatting? Yeah. What's your go-to video game on that? Right now,

00:05:55.600 Elden Ring, usually Apex Legends. What's that new one with the monkey? The monkey one that's kind

00:06:04.060 of like Elden Ring. It's, uh. Wukong. Wukong. Have you been playing that? No. Okay. Uh, and you

00:06:10.700 are a detransitioner. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. And so you're born female. Yes. And then I took 1.00

00:06:18.180 testosterone and then back to female, even though I was born female, but yeah. And, uh, at what age did

00:06:27.260 you, uh, start the transition? It was a few days after my 18th birthday. So 18, I guess, but I was

00:06:39.760 prescribed it as a minor. Did you, oh, did you take it when you were a minor? Any of the drugs or

00:06:45.600 whatever? Around my 18th birthday. I mean, if you consider three days of being 18 years old,

00:06:53.340 an adult, then I guess an adult. Okay. Um, and when did you stop? Um, when I was 20, so. So about

00:07:02.500 two years? Yeah. Two and a half years? Three-ish. Three-ish. Three-ish years. Okay. Um, and was it,

00:07:09.620 were you just taking the hormones or was there? Just the hormones, no surgeries. No surgeries or

00:07:14.360 anything like that? Okay. All right. And, um, well, I'm sure we can, we'll get into some of more of that

00:07:21.080 stuff a little later on in the show, but, uh, what about you? I'm Benedetta. I'm from

00:07:25.900 Italy. I'm 23 and I graduated in mechanical engineering in Italy. And then I decided to

00:07:32.480 come here for, um, a master program. Okay. So I'm going to attend a master program in

00:07:37.680 mechanical engineering? No, in management of technology, actually. So I changed a little

00:07:42.880 bit. Okay. And it took this six months to travel around Asia and Spain. The past six

00:07:49.440 months? Yeah. When did, and so you just got here to Santa Barbara? Yeah, three days. Three

00:07:53.500 days ago. Okay. And you said you're a master's student. Okay. Got it. And you're going to be

00:07:59.160 here for how long? Um, I, right now one year, but I hope to continue staying here. Okay. So

00:08:06.340 maybe I'm going to find like a job or something at minimum one year though. Yeah. Okay. All

00:08:12.440 right. What about you? Hi, my name is Elle. I am 18. I just moved here from the East coast.

00:08:18.520 I'm a student full time. What are you studying? Psychology. Psychology. Going into your freshman

00:08:24.500 year? Yes. Freshman year. At UCSB? SBCC. Oh, SBCC. Okay. Gotcha. Uh, and you said the East

00:08:30.240 coast. So like New York, New Jersey. I'm from Maine. Maine. Yeah. Wow. Wait, hold on. I have

00:08:35.960 something for this. Wait, hold on. Yes. Grab cake and football. That's what Maryland does. 1.00

00:08:42.640 Oh, Maryland. I got it wrong. I mixed up the Maine, the Maryland. It was close. A for

00:08:48.520 effort. A for effort. Definitely. I've been waiting like a year to press that button. We

00:08:52.620 could switch. I'm waiting for a girl from Maryland to come on the show. Sorry, I'm

00:08:55.920 disappointed. Very disappointed. Maine. So that's, that's new, New England. Yes. Okay. All

00:09:02.460 right. Cool. Do you know like where on a map it is? Could you say it? I could point

00:09:06.740 to it. You could point it out. I could point to it. Is it a tippy top one? It's a tippy

00:09:09.780 top. Yes. Just the tip. Just the tip. Just the tip. Just the tip. Just the tip. Just for

00:09:14.360 a second. Traveled all the way from just the tip. I don't know. It's a long journey. Just

00:09:20.300 the tip. Just for a second. I got it. Just to see how it feels. It was a little delayed,

00:09:23.080 but I got it. Okay. What about you? My name is Cheyenne McGee. I'm 27. I'm a full-time

00:09:29.100 student at UCSB. Okay. I'm a pre-med student, so I'm studying biopsychology. I'm also a full-time

00:09:38.120 mom as well, so I don't really have an occupation. Oh. Wait. And what are you studying at UCSB?

00:09:45.140 Mom is an occupation. Yes, it is. Several. Get it, girl. Yes. I'm studying biopsychology.

00:09:50.640 Oh, biopsych. Okay. And how old's your daughter? Six. I have two girls. Two girls? Six and eight.

00:09:57.080 Six and eight. Okay. And how long ago did you have them? Like six and eight years ago.

00:10:06.880 That took me a minute. I was like, oh, yeah. What about you? Hi. My name is Rebecca. I'm 41.

00:10:15.780 I'm from Concord in California up in the Bay Area, and I'm a full-time mom,

00:10:20.520 a full-time office manager at a construction company. And what was the other one? I think

00:10:25.020 that's it, right? Yeah. I think that location, age, occupation. Yeah. Yeah.

00:10:34.460 Oh, sorry. She doesn't speak English. My bad. All right. So, Andrew, what about you?

00:10:40.100 My name is Andrew Wilson. I'm the host of The Crucible. It is, to my knowledge, fastest-growing

00:10:44.740 debate channel on YouTube. I am a political analyst, political satirist, and I occasionally

00:10:49.460 enjoy debating. All right. Welcome, everybody. So, we're going to go around the table once

00:10:55.740 more. What is everybody's current relationship status? So, are you single, talking stage,

00:11:02.440 situationship, relationship, friends with benefits, married, polycule, sex, cult harem, whatever

00:11:07.240 it may be? If you're single, how long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship

00:11:12.600 you've ever been in? Go ahead. So, I'm in a situationship, I would say, with you, Brian,

00:11:20.120 because Brian's like my imaginary boyfriend now. Oh, my God. Am I going to have to lose

00:11:23.600 my mind again over this? I just use him as a therapist type of friend in the influencer world

00:11:32.900 that can maybe understand the insanity of becoming, like, famous, but nobody told us that that was

00:11:39.640 what was going to happen? Erroneous. Erroneous. Okay. Okay. So, that was that one. Yeah,

00:11:44.960 we're not. Okay. And then, since I've been in a real relationship, like, where the person

00:11:50.940 actually came to visit me and stuff, that would be since about a year ago. And then, my longest

00:11:59.340 relationship was about 10 years with my kid's dad. One eternity later. That was very thorough.

00:12:07.500 Thank you, Desiree. What about you? Single, longest relationship was, like, four, five months.

00:12:19.100 Yeah. Erroneous. Wait, oh, what the? Erroneous. That, wait, it says, did not mean for that to go

00:12:25.880 off there. Also, just a point of clarification. Me and Desiree are not dating. Just want to make

00:12:31.040 that clear. It's an imaginary thing in my head. It's a one-sided. It's like, you're like my drop-dead

00:12:35.740 Fred, you know? What is that? Remember that movie? Drop-dead Fred, right? I haven't seen that movie.

00:12:39.860 And it's, like, this little character that's imaginary that comes and, like, fucks her whole

00:12:43.780 life up, but she has, like, a scapegoat to blame it on. That's you for me. I'm the scapegoat. Yes. 0.53

00:12:50.260 Yeah. So, every time people ask me, like, why I've been going off the rails, I'm like, well, it's Brian's fault.

00:12:56.960 It works. Okay. But then I do take accountability. In any case. I still got to clean up the mess that

00:13:04.000 you made. By the way, I just want to let you know, don't take it personally. You send me, like, a wall

00:13:08.880 of, hold on, hold on. You send me walls of, like, wall, walls of text. I really do. DMs. And I just

00:13:16.520 want to let you know. You never read them. I don't read them. I know. I know you don't. I'm too busy.

00:13:20.060 I know. But I have this addiction to seeing the scene. Like, it just says scene. You get the scene. At least

00:13:25.480 I give you the scene. Yeah. And then I get the hit. And I have, like, that anxious, avoidant attachment

00:13:30.040 from, like, extreme childhood trauma. So, it's, like, I need a little intimacy. But if you give me too much,

00:13:35.860 I'm going to freak out. So, I just need to see it seen. And then we're good. I didn't need you to actually

00:13:40.560 know all that about me. I give you the scene. I give you the scene. And I appreciate that. And once in a while, a little

00:13:45.100 heart. That's the little breadcrumb, you know, how we were starved of attention. And then they give us a

00:13:50.000 little breadcrumb. And I'm like, oh, maybe we are really friends. Oh, my God. And then it'll be,

00:13:55.640 like, 14 days later before I get another heart. You know, I'm like, oh, my God, it's a breadcrumb.

00:14:01.080 See? And then I keep in the delusion. So, I mean, part of you feeds it. But it is conscious.

00:14:07.420 I'll say that. It's conscious. So, you were, you said you've been single for how long again?

00:14:13.880 Oh, well, like, probably, like, since the beginning of summer. So, like, well, actually a little

00:14:21.880 before that. So, like, four or five months. Yeah. And you were on, was it three weeks ago,

00:14:26.080 a month ago, about? Yeah. Any prospects? Any dates? Anything like that? Yeah. But, yeah.

00:14:34.560 What do you mean, yeah? Like, yes. Dates. Elaborate. Dates. First dates. Yeah. How many? Two. Two?

00:14:44.000 Different guys, I'm assuming. Yeah. How'd those go? Honestly, well. I mean, like, but, like, it's

00:14:53.240 slow since, it's been slow since then. So, like. Have you, well, have you seen any of them

00:14:58.980 second times? No. It went well? They don't, well, like, the actual date itself was, like,

00:15:09.140 I, was, like, fine. Yeah. It's, like, good. Yeah. Like, we enjoyed each other's company,

00:15:16.200 like, both times we got along. But, like, not really, like, successful in, like, a dating,

00:15:22.360 I mean, yeah, not successful really in a dating sense. So, the dates went well, but, I mean,

00:15:29.780 how long ago were the dates? Like, last week I went on two. Last week? Yeah. Okay. Have

00:15:40.000 you scheduled? No. Have they scheduled? No. Did you ask for the dates or did they?

00:15:46.980 Okay. Um, one of them was, like, mutual. Actually, I would say, like, mutual both ways,

00:15:56.920 or me, maybe. Are you, well, are you intending to see them again? I'm not sure. Didn't you

00:16:04.740 say the dates went well? Yeah, but also, like, I'm, I also just, like, might not want to,

00:16:11.600 like, date anyone. Why's that? Because I feel kind of, like, incompatible with men, not in, like,

00:16:21.600 a sexuality way, but, like, I just feel like I've never really had a, like, we really understand each

00:16:29.980 other type situation. Wait, are you, if your orientation is bi, is that correct? Yeah. Okay. 0.96

00:16:38.360 Okay. So, you date women, too, then? No. I've never dated a woman. I've just had some, like,

00:16:43.820 Fleeting attraction or hookups? Well, I've had, like, I was in boarding school, which was all

00:16:49.120 girls, so, like, it was kind of, like, prison where it's, like, Prison? It's kind of, like,

00:16:55.240 prison where it's, like, uh, gay for the stay. That's what, that's what they say. I like it. Yeah. 0.97

00:17:02.300 Like, everyone, everyone who goes to, like, boarding school for, like, a year is, like, 0.92

00:17:07.720 gay for the stay. There's, like, very few people, very few girls who don't, like, kind of date other 0.95

00:17:15.360 girls when they're in boarding school. Because you have no access to boys. Okay. Is the phantom dick

00:17:25.300 thing real? I've no idea what that is. What? No idea what that is. Um. I've just heard it from 0.99

00:17:32.180 some, like, lesbians or bisexual girls, like, when they're, it's almost, like, energetically, 1.00

00:17:37.640 their energy builds up, like, this phantom dick when they're fooling around with each other. I was 0.99

00:17:41.700 just curious if that was a real thing or not. Because I could see that from just different

00:17:45.660 experiences I've had. Um, I wouldn't say I have, like, a haunting presence of, like,

00:17:52.440 I probably shouldn't be asking. Well, no, I just mean, like, almost, like, it feels like

00:17:57.360 there's something inside of you. I mean. In that area that a dick would be. I think that's

00:18:02.300 just, like, being turned on. Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. But I wouldn't say it's, like.

00:18:06.980 But that's what I mean. That's what I mean. It's, like, the turn-on that's so strong, it's

00:18:10.780 almost tangible. Like, there's a lot of sexual energy built up. You know what I'm saying?

00:18:15.280 Actually, I do actually understand. So, wait. Are you saying you, like, ran through chicks

00:18:18.320 at boarding school? No. I just had one experience because, like, we were

00:18:22.380 all, like, really close. Just be honest. So, like, how many? Like, you just ran through

00:18:26.260 a bunch, or? No, one. Like, you were, like, you have riz. There's no way. Oh, I have riz.

00:18:31.000 There's no way there was just one. Like, you have mad riz. Like, if I was a lesbian, I'd 1.00

00:18:36.000 be crawling with bitches. You'd crush it. I was gonna say that. You would crush it. Yeah. 1.00

00:18:39.780 I don't know what these were. Yeah. It's certainly an option for me, but. So, it was,

00:18:43.820 what did you call it? It was, uh, gay for the stay? Brian, you've never done a stint 0.94

00:18:50.640 in the pen. You couldn't understand. Okay. You've had a very privileged life. Okay.

00:18:54.520 So, um. A lot of people know what that would mean. Like, we usually go, most girls go back 0.98

00:19:00.440 to dating guys after, or they're just bi. Okay. But so, you did have that one experience.

00:19:05.520 How long did you date that girl? No, I, well, I didn't date her. Oh, it was, like, a singular.

00:19:09.700 Well, we were all just, like, really close friends. So, it was kind of, like, there's a lot

00:19:15.500 of intermingling. Um, yeah. You could, you could say that, or. What? No, I'm telling you

00:19:21.380 to speak into the mic. Oh, I thought you were, like, I thought you were, like, signaling,

00:19:24.080 like, what happened. I was, like, wait, I thought it was this. What is it with girls?

00:19:27.500 Wouldn't it be this? No. No. Okay. We get it, Desiree. Thank you for being extra. It goes

00:19:32.380 like this, you guys. All right. That's great, Desiree. Lesbian sex ed. Thank you, Desiree. 0.93

00:19:36.440 That was fantastic. Um, so, you went on two dates. The dates went well, but,

00:19:44.480 I think you said you don't feel like you had things in common with them. Oh, definitely.

00:19:51.580 I just, I just, like, fail to understand men. I mean, isn't that just the nature of

00:20:00.220 the relationship between men and women? I feel like I could under, like, I just need to,

00:20:06.620 like, really, honestly, I just really need to, like, stay with someone for a long enough time

00:20:12.300 and, like, really actually try to get to know them. It's kind of my fault.

00:20:16.980 So, have they hit you up and been, like, hey, do you want to hang out again?

00:20:20.500 No. We just, like, talk, like. Oh, you guys are still talking?

00:20:27.400 I mean, like, infrequently. It's, like, like, once every couple of days kind of talking.

00:20:32.700 Did you hook up with either of them? Yes. Both of them? Yes. I was also, I'm going to be honest,

00:20:41.600 I was also. I'm disappointed in you. Kind of. Vivian? He's a dad to you right now. He's being a dad.

00:20:47.220 Go ahead. Kind of what? I was also kind of, um, under the influence. Of meth? No.

00:20:57.840 Meth. Meth? I don't think you're really, like. Didn't you say you went to boarding school because

00:21:03.800 of all the meth you did? No. That was literally, bruh. Sorry, sorry. It was cocaine? That was

00:21:09.420 Lucy. That was not. That was Lucy who was doing the cocaine. Yes. That's right. How could I forget?

00:21:15.820 Okay. So, you were doing what? Um, well, a mix of things. Cigarettes? I would rather not say,

00:21:23.220 but a mix of things. Amyl nitrate? Brian didn't go through a party phase, so he doesn't understand

00:21:32.280 what people do once in a while to let loose. I mean, well, it was different psychedelics along

00:21:40.100 with, uh, let's just say it was mushrooms. Hypothetically. There you go. Well, that was, 0.97

00:21:45.840 that was, that was, like, two weeks earlier, and then there was just a lot going on, and

00:21:51.400 I just, like, it was very impulsive both times, and I do, uh, it, it was kind of a poor decision

00:21:59.160 because I don't feel like I was really looking for a relationship or at my best self at the

00:22:07.500 time of doing that, so it was kind of, like, an irresponsible, not super serious, but, but

00:22:16.740 I do, like, I, I enjoyed my time with both people, like, we, we kind of called that raving

00:22:24.340 or, like, Woodstock in previous generations, but you just did it, like, privately. Basically.

00:22:32.100 What? That's like rave culture. Like, you go, and you know you're gonna do some stupid substances,

00:22:37.120 and do some stupid shit, but you're, like, consenting. Wait, question. You said both of 1.00

00:22:41.220 these two dates were last week? Yeah. What was the time period between the two? Um, like,

00:22:48.520 a few days. So, like, one on a Wednesday, one on a Friday? Yeah. What were the actual days?

00:22:54.700 Yeah, it was, like, two days in between. It was two days in between. A three-day weekend.

00:22:58.740 Three-day weekend. I was gonna say, oh, man, okay. Um, no, that's cool. Good, good for you.

00:23:03.880 Yeah, I, it's, it's, like, not, no, I mean, yeah, it was an experience, like. We can, we

00:23:10.640 can fix her. Uh, just kidding. I think you should lump those into, like, one experience

00:23:15.260 almost. It was, like, a one three-day weekend, like, extravaganza. Live and learn. Heroin

00:23:20.460 wasn't maybe your best look. You had an experience. Lesson learned. I really, yeah, I, it was kind

00:23:26.780 of, like, an itch to scratch because I don't do that typically. Exactly. A three-day party

00:23:32.960 weekend. Once in a while. Anyways, uh, what about you? I am single. I've only been in one

00:23:40.320 relationship, and that was about two years, and I've been single for two years. Single

00:23:48.500 for two years. So, I'm assuming that's the one that ended. Yeah. Two years ago, the two-year

00:23:52.920 one. Okay. Uh, any, I'm assuming, any dating in between? Two different people. How long

00:24:00.620 were those? Um, my first date, because my ex didn't take me out on dates. So, my first

00:24:07.320 date ever was two years ago, and I just went on a date a week ago. Okay. Have you, was it

00:24:15.260 just a first date? The first one was two dates. The one a week ago was one. How's it, how did

00:24:22.720 that one go? I loved it. Um. But? Uh, I'm keeping that one private. Well, is there

00:24:34.020 going to be a second date? I hope so. Um, the first date, the guy from two years ago

00:24:43.700 didn't go well. But the most recent one, do you think there'll be a second date? I don't

00:24:51.420 know. Oh. How long ago, you said it was a week ago? Yeah. Okay. All right. What

00:24:57.740 about you? So, my ex-boyfriend and I just broke up, like, one week ago. Okay. Kind

00:25:03.980 of. And we've been to, no, my longest relationship was almost two years, uh, three years ago, or

00:25:13.420 four years ago, I don't remember. Sure. Like, and that's it. I'm not looking for any, like, I'm

00:25:20.780 looking for fun. Like, something easy, but, like, not, not, like, ten people all together.

00:25:26.620 Mm-hmm. Just one that goes and come, comes, like, with me, and I decide, like, I decide what

00:25:32.920 to do, like, everything. And he just follows. Wait, he just follows? Yeah, follows me.

00:25:38.640 Like, that's my, like, right now, I want to have fun. Is that what you have? No. Or

00:25:43.540 is it what you're looking for? Yeah. Okay. Like, something easy and without problems, without

00:25:48.260 anything, just. And you said you got here three days ago? Yeah. Have you been out, like, partying

00:25:52.960 or anything like that? No. No. Oh, yeah. Do you party at all? Yeah, I do. Okay. Uh, and

00:25:58.480 you said you broke up a week ago, or what, three weeks ago? No. A week ago? Ten days

00:26:02.900 ago. Ten days ago. Yeah. How long were you dating that guy? Um, one year and two

00:26:08.620 months, like, something like that. I, I actually lived with him for four months. And did you

00:26:14.440 guys break up because you were moving here? Yeah. And he couldn't, like, uh, keep up with

00:26:19.360 this thing. Like, he wasn't fine with the long-distance relationship. And, um... Even

00:26:27.940 because there are, like, there is a gap of nine hours. So, not easy. Uh, okay. And was it

00:26:37.620 a mutual breakup? Did he break up with you? Did you break up with him? He was the, uh,

00:26:41.440 like, he, he broke up with me. Okay. And he was, um, older than me. A lot older. So,

00:26:49.280 like... How old was he? He was, he is, he is 40 and 23. So, like... Okay. We can, maybe,

00:26:56.360 that'd be interesting to talk about, like, age gap relationships a bit later. So, that's, uh,

00:27:01.320 like, 17 year age gap. Yeah. And, but you guys were dating for a year and a half. So,

00:27:06.760 did you meet him at 21? No. Or 22? Or 22? And he was 38, 39? 39. 39. Okay. All right. So,

00:27:15.380 yeah, we'll talk about age gap relationships later on the show. That's interesting. Have

00:27:19.040 you, uh, always dated older guys typically? Yeah. Not that old. Like... Yeah. Well,

00:27:24.100 you said your longest relationship was two years. Yeah. How old was, or what was the age

00:27:27.960 gap there? Uh, three years. Oh, just three years. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, never like that.

00:27:33.960 No, not that gap. Like... Yeah. That was the first time with, uh, that old guy. Okay. I see. All

00:27:39.900 right. Okay. Uh, and, uh, one quick question. So, have you been to the United States before? Yeah. I,

00:27:49.000 I've been here in high school to, um, for six months. Yeah. And then I came here like four

00:27:56.040 times to visit. Just like going around. Okay. And you said, weren't you just traveling? You

00:28:02.000 said you were like in Asia, right? Yeah. How long were you traveling? I went for one month

00:28:07.320 and a half in Asia. I went to, um, Thailand. Singapore, Thailand, Singapore. Singapore.

00:28:14.040 Yeah. Um, Japan, Japan. Yeah. And, uh, Bali. Bali. And then I went to Tarifa. It's like a small

00:28:22.840 town in Spain to do kitesurf. Yeah. Like to stay there. And that's where. Where? Tarifa. It's like

00:28:29.780 a small town in Spain. Oh, okay. It's the name. Tarifa. It's the name. Okay. Of a place. Yeah. And,

00:28:37.180 and there is where my ex-boyfriend lived. So I went, I went there to stay with him. He's Spanish?

00:28:44.020 No, he's Argentinian. Oh, Argentinian. Yeah. But he lives there. Right. Okay. And so were you

00:28:50.800 traveling with your boyfriend? No. No, I went to Asia by myself and with a friend and

00:28:55.800 then I went to. Female friend? Yeah. Okay. And then I went to his house and we stayed together

00:29:02.140 for four months in his house. Okay. Got it. Uh, but you were still in a relationship when

00:29:08.160 you were traveling? Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. Uh, and you said you're looking for, it sounds

00:29:15.680 like essentially a monogamous friends with benefits kind of. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Or, yeah,

00:29:21.740 or whatever. I, I don't, I didn't figure it out. Okay. Sure. I don't have any plans. All

00:29:27.960 right. Well, welcome to, uh, welcome to the U S. Maybe we'll also get into, uh, dating like

00:29:34.820 American men versus, uh, European, maybe even versus, have you dated any, like, I, well, you

00:29:42.100 didn't date anyone in Asia, right? No. Okay. I just European, uh, well, an Argentinian and

00:29:49.020 an American when I was here. Okay. We'll get into that later. What about you? Okay. So

00:29:53.420 I have like kind of a similar, not the age gap, but, um, I just got out of a relationship.

00:29:58.460 It was my first and it was like kind of mainly for the distance. I mean, long distance is like

00:30:03.800 daunting, but yeah. So you're single now. Yeah. I'm single now. As of when? As of like two

00:30:10.280 months ago. Like we were still, I mean, but. Still what? Hanging out. As of? Until

00:30:15.780 I left for. Oh, so you hung out like a week ago or like three weeks ago or two and a half

00:30:20.580 weeks ago. So. Okay. So you guys hung out like right before you left? Yeah. Like at

00:30:23.820 the airport. Like goodbye. He dropped you off? Yeah. How long were you dating him for?

00:30:28.160 We were dating for 10 months. 10 months. And you said not an age gap though, right? You

00:30:32.720 said? No, same age. Okay. That was only different. It was just that you broke up because of the

00:30:36.660 distance. Yeah. And cause you're from the East coast. So this was in Maine. Yeah. I'm

00:30:40.240 assuming. Okay. Uh, okay. So 10 months, you guys, you broke up, but you continued hanging

00:30:47.180 out. Um, so was it like non-monogamous or? Yeah. I mean, like I stayed loyal to him during

00:30:54.720 the time that we hung out and like for what I know he did too. Oh, okay. It was just a

00:30:59.360 lot of like the pressure around leaving each other. Just in anticipation of leaving. You're

00:31:04.540 like, okay. Um, now who kind of wanted, cause you could have done long distance, right? So

00:31:11.620 were you wanting long distance? Was he, did somebody specifically ended or? We like, I

00:31:17.840 don't know, getting into the relationship, I already knew I was coming out here for school

00:31:21.820 and like talking about long distance, like there's always just, I don't know. I had never

00:31:26.760 been like thinking it was something I would do just like not see each other for months.

00:31:31.880 But now that we're broken up, I've definitely changed my mind about it. And I don't know

00:31:37.180 how he feels about that, but yeah, it's like, I don't know. Interesting. Yeah. But

00:31:46.120 so you initiated it. We both had like similar feelings about like not wanting to do long

00:31:52.140 distance. Okay. All right. And then what about you? Um, I guess I'm in a situationship with

00:32:01.080 my ex, we broke up a year ago, but we still fool around, um, here and there. Okay. And,

00:32:08.220 um, my longest relationship was with my sperm donor, uh, eight years. So wait, sperm donor.

00:32:14.400 I don't think he deserves the title of father, but maybe for a child. I like it. I'm starting

00:32:18.900 to go with that one too. Wait, so you're in a situationship with a guy. How long have you

00:32:25.440 been seeing this person? I've been seeing him for maybe two years now. Um, we actually

00:32:31.840 lived together before I moved out here. Uh, we broke up in November, but like I said,

00:32:36.540 we still mess around. Okay. And there was the sperm donor. Yes. Who you were seeing for

00:32:44.520 how long? That was my longest relationship. Eight years. Eight years. Okay. Why, why do

00:32:49.660 you call him a sperm donor? Because he does not deserve the title to be my children's father,

00:32:54.420 my baby daddy, nothing of that nature. That is a sperm donor and that is it. Um, does he pay

00:33:00.520 child support? No. Is he in the children's life? Yeah, definitely. Yes. He's in their life? I mean,

00:33:07.320 I guess. I don't know. Yes and no. He's there, but he's not there, if that makes sense. Huh?

00:33:12.860 Like how often does he see the kids? All the time. Definitely. Oh, but it's just because like,

00:33:18.040 say when they go with their grandmother, um, he's in the back house while they're in the front house.

00:33:22.200 So, you know, and he doesn't. So it's more like they're going to visit with the family,

00:33:27.000 his family more than him. Do you guys have a custody arrangement like through the court?

00:33:31.660 Yes. I'm actually going through a custody battle now. So. Hmm. Okay. And, um,

00:33:39.180 who brought it to the court? Him or you? Me. You. Okay. And so are you seeking full custody?

00:33:44.580 Yes. Soul. Soul custody. Okay. Is there a difference

00:33:47.820 between full custody? I think it's the same. Soul? It's probably the same. Yeah. And then

00:33:51.500 there's something that's called custodial parent. I'm like, I don't, I keep forgetting to look that

00:33:56.660 up because I'm like the custodial parent. I don't know if that means they live with us more than the

00:34:00.820 other parent or what. I know that was primary and I don't know. It's confusing. Yeah. There's so many

00:34:05.880 terms. And what's the nature of the relationship between the two of you? I mean, you, you guys were

00:34:11.840 together for eight years. Was the relationship, uh, acrimonious or contentious? It was very volatile.

00:34:18.540 Like we were close to close friends. We were best friends actually for like a year or two,

00:34:22.820 um, before we finally hooked up. Even to this day, we could be, we could talk to each other,

00:34:28.360 like we're perfectly cool and friends and all that. And it doesn't look like this beef. And then the

00:34:31.940 next second, boom, we're arguing at each other's necks. Um, yeah, I don't know if they mentioned,

00:34:38.120 but, um, crazy thing is like, we went to jail over arguing over an argument behind Game of Thrones.

00:34:44.680 Really? Yes. Well, I'm all of a sudden very intrigued by this. Where were you guys when I

00:34:50.480 was married? We would have been like the neighbors. Okay. It's not about you, Desiree. All right. So,

00:34:55.180 uh, back to this. So what was the argument? Um, we were arguing about, um, love it was about

00:35:02.940 the twins, Jamie and Sarah C. Lannister. Yeah. And I was just saying that it's so wrong,

00:35:08.520 incest and blah, blah, blah. And it's like twins and all that. But, uh, and he was like,

00:35:12.880 no, it doesn't matter. Love is love. And I was like, sounds like he has some unresolved family

00:35:17.980 trauma there. Yeah. You said in your pre-show notes, went to jail over an argument about you

00:35:25.680 both went to jail. Yes. The thing that makes me so upset and this is why I'll never call the police,

00:35:30.240 even if I get stabbed and I'm dying on the street. I called the police and I ended up going to jail

00:35:34.140 as well with him. You called the police? Yes. Was he all fucked up? No, we had just woken up. We

00:35:42.040 literally just woke up in the morning. We put on the show. Uh, we started watching it. Yeah. And then

00:35:48.900 yeah, by 11, like 11 AM, 12 or noon, like we were fighting each other up and down the hallways.

00:35:55.860 Like Webster calls this a toxic relationship. It was very, very, very toxic and codependent. So

00:36:01.640 it was just about, how long ago was this? Like, was this before Game of Thrones ended?

00:36:10.720 Yes. Way before it was. Cause yeah, you guys were together for eight years. Wait, so how soon into

00:36:16.960 the relationship did this shit, the fight go down? This is like a year later into the relationship. 0.99

00:36:22.160 So one year in. Damn, one year in, you guys are already like squabbling about Game of Thrones. 0.97

00:36:26.220 I mean, look, Game of Thrones, I'm a fan of Game of Thrones. Very sensitive subject for me. 0.99

00:36:30.860 You know, I can understand why someone would get heated over this topic. Um, so it was probably

00:36:37.380 like season. Do you know what season it was? Oh no. What year was this? What year was it? I know

00:36:42.260 what season it'll be. It's like the first episode. Yeah. It's when the kid gets pushed out the tower. Yeah. Yeah. How dare you

00:36:48.360 spoil the first episode? Oh, sorry. 10 years ago. No, it's fine. Hashtag spoilers. No, it's fine. Uh, so

00:36:54.640 what year, do you know what year it was? I want to say 2016 or 17. 2016 or 17. Okay. So it was one of

00:37:04.440 the earlier seasons. I know that. Yeah. Damn. So he was arguing incest, fine. Yeah. Love is love and all

00:37:11.540 that. Love is love. That's what, that was his argument. It doesn't. And I was just like, uh,

00:37:16.360 no, there, that's a crazy thing to have like heated argument about. I mean, but the thing is

00:37:22.580 like, what do you, have you seen house of, uh, house of the dragon? No, I haven't. You haven't

00:37:26.580 been keeping up? No, I haven't. So, I mean, there is an argument to be made in the Game of Thrones

00:37:30.860 universe and the song of ice and fire universe, at least for Targaryens, they get a pass when it comes

00:37:36.360 to the incest because they got to keep the bloodline pure. Right. Cersei and Jaime being

00:37:44.940 Lannisters and not being dragon riders. And you know, the, the dragons have been dead for a very

00:37:50.740 long time. There's not really a compelling argument to be made for incest in the age of, you know,

00:37:57.160 when the Game of Thrones was happening house of the dragon. That's a different discussion.

00:38:01.340 There's still dragons. There's dragon riders. You got to keep the blood pure for the Targaryens.

00:38:06.780 I think you were in the right in the argument. I have to back you on this one. Andrew, do you have

00:38:12.640 thoughts on this con on, uh, incest? No, I don't know anything about Game of Thrones, man. Oh, okay.

00:38:20.620 All right. So, so, uh, that is a crazy, that's pretty crazy though. That's pretty crazy. And they like

00:38:28.700 try to murder the kid over to keep their incest private. So, well, there's other concerns, but anyways.

00:38:34.860 Um, okay. And then you said, you said he's also gay.

00:38:38.600 I think he is, or he's bi, maybe. Oh. Um, I don't know. I think he's an asexual, bisexual,

00:38:45.160 or maybe he's just gay for pay. I'm not sure. Gay for pay? Yeah. Cause there's, there's a few 0.99

00:38:51.600 moments where I kind of caught him, like, um, you know. Oh, sorry. There's a few moments where I

00:39:00.500 kind of caught him, um, I guess trying to, like, I don't know how to say it. Escort himself or

00:39:06.780 something like that? Solicit? Yes. There you go. Solicit. And then I heard rumors as well from the

00:39:11.720 streets because, um, we're both from Altadena. And, um, so everybody, it's kind of a small city,

00:39:16.740 so we kind of know each other. Everybody kind of knows everyone. And yeah. There's also times

00:39:22.200 where he's also asked me to excuse the room because he, I guess he also does it on his

00:39:25.900 Oculus in the VR chat rooms and stuff. Um, so yeah. Damn. I guess once we broke up, he just

00:39:33.500 went all out full balls to the walls. Wait, you said he was asexual with you? That's what he 0.98

00:39:38.300 claims to be. That's what he says he is. Um, he's asexual. He doesn't really like people 0.58

00:39:43.940 touching him. He doesn't, he doesn't like physical contact. Like it's kind of sad, but

00:39:48.240 yeah, he's, he has his own demons and issues. And so you caught him trying to prostitute 0.86

00:39:55.240 and tricking men into thinking he's a woman? Yes. Cause he does play that. He has a really 0.96

00:40:03.500 light voice. Does he look like a woman? I don't think he does, but he does, he is, he does switch 0.99

00:40:08.700 and he's kind of, and it's a lot of people do mistake him as a woman cause he has a light

00:40:11.980 voice, a really light voice. Yeah. Huh. But I mean, he got you pregnant twice. So I mean,

00:40:19.960 you guys were having some sex, right? Yes. No, throughout the relationship, yes. But I 0.96

00:40:24.100 was always the, um, a nine times out of 10, I was the initiator. Oh, so. Hmm. Damn. That's

00:40:31.720 tough. Okay. Uh, what about you? Uh, current relationship status, I would call it a

00:40:37.260 situationship and a longest relationship 20 years. Currently. And you have, uh, children?

00:40:45.080 Is that correct? Yes. So you're currently in the situationship. You said your longest is

00:40:48.920 how long? 20 years. 20 years. Um, the children are from the 20 year relationship? Yes. Okay.

00:40:54.340 Situationship is stepfather? Father. Oh, the wait, 20 year relationship. Is the

00:41:01.480 situation. Is the situation. Okay. Were you guys ever married? Yes. Are you? That would

00:41:08.420 be the situationship currently. So you're married. Are you getting a divorce or? I'm not going

00:41:15.380 to say any more about that part. Oh, okay. Um, so it is a situationship though. Uh, so are

00:41:24.760 you dating other people or? Uh, it's open. Oh, you're in an open marriage relationship.

00:41:31.480 Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, that's why I say it's complicated. That's why I say it's a

00:41:36.320 situationship that it's not going to be elaborated on. Who wanted to open it up? You or him?

00:41:41.860 Both. Both. All right. Uh, Archduke Franz Ferdinand. You can introduce yourself if you want

00:41:50.980 to. I'm Anissa. I have a boyfriend.

00:42:01.480 Okay. Good, good, good, good. There you go. That's Anissa. She's joining the team guys.

00:42:06.320 So, uh, W's in the chat for Anissa. We need when Anissa is in the chat. When Anissa is

00:42:11.580 in the chat. W Anissa. Okay. Uh, cool. So, Andrew, what about you? How you doing? Still

00:42:18.980 married? Still married. Are we going to get a Rachel cameo, Andrew? Don't know yet. We

00:42:25.280 got to see. We need to. She's out and about doing stuff at the moment. Okay. We got to get

00:42:28.900 into the Rachel cameo. Uh, Desiree, if you can scoot into the table just a tad. So, um,

00:42:34.160 I'm not sure if, not sure if Desiree deserves to be graced with the presence of one such as

00:42:41.600 Rachel, to be honest with you. Definitely not.

00:42:43.920 So, let's see here. Um, where do I, I'm going to get into some of the pre-show notes here.

00:42:53.940 And, uh, let's see. Uh, Vivian. Why don't we start with Vivian pre-show notes? Uh, you said

00:43:02.900 dating topics. I, I have to go to the bathroom. Oh my God. I'm sorry. Okay. All right. I don't

00:43:08.420 want to start a long conversation. Okay. Sounds good. Have fun. Good luck.

00:43:13.920 Good luck in there. All right. Just got to go to the bathroom. Uh, let me read some chats

00:43:18.680 though. While, uh, while we do that, we had whatever fan Miss Italy just needs to forget 0.84

00:43:25.480 about it.

00:43:28.040 What? She doesn't even speak. So she's not Italian American, so she's not going to know 0.97

00:43:33.040 those. It's like, yeah, she's Italian, Italian. So forget about it is like an Italian American 0.99

00:43:40.620 kind of thing. Kind of? It just means like, get out there, have fun. You'll be fine. Oh,

00:43:48.440 yeah. What? Right? Yeah. There's other fish in the sea type thing. Oh! Okay. Uh, whatever

00:43:55.720 fan, thanks for the message. Really appreciate it. Let's see here. Why don't we do, uh, why don't

00:44:00.560 we get into some of your stuff? Uh, so Jade, uh, you said you have a crazy story of dating

00:44:07.280 a criminal slash abuser, but your dates. You're what? Slash bisexual. Slash bisexual. Okay. 0.69

00:44:18.020 Uh, but your dates so far have been respectful. Uh, the most recent one. Yes. Wait. So wait,

00:44:27.940 was this the guy who you were dating for two years? The most recent? No. Who's the criminal

00:44:34.340 abuser? The two year guy? My ex-boyfriend. The only boyfriend I've had, yeah. So the guy

00:44:38.960 you dated for two years? Yeah. Okay. And then I had a date. Two years ago. Yeah. Okay. What

00:44:45.880 kind of, what kind of crime? Like. I can't say the word on YouTube apparently. Oh. It was

00:44:54.120 a, uh, it was a violent crime? No. That's a? Involving not adults. Okay. That's a yikes.

00:45:07.160 That's a yikes. Okay. Uh, let's see. You said you have a bizarre dating story. You dated

00:45:11.220 the bisexual homeless, homeless man who ended up being a criminal and you living a double 1.00

00:45:16.320 life with another woman. Yes. He ended up owing you $15,000 and going to jail. Yes. So 0.99

00:45:22.500 we won't talk about the jail part, but we will, we can talk about how did he, uh, end up owing

00:45:28.440 you $15,000? Um, so I met him when he was somewhat homeless. So he was a truck driver that lived

00:45:39.260 out of his truck and he would guilt me into giving him money. And, you know, I was young.

00:45:49.800 It was my first boyfriend and that kind of ties into the whole detransition thing. Like 1.00

00:45:56.040 I've never had a boyfriend before. I didn't know how dating worked or boyfriends. So I

00:46:02.420 was just naive and vulnerable and I just didn't know how it worked. So I believed him whenever

00:46:09.860 he needed money, I would give him money and he ended up switching jobs. So he moved to a different

00:46:18.900 state and in that state, he somehow got a girlfriend within two weeks and moved in with her and was

00:46:30.140 living a double life with her for several months without me knowing.

00:46:36.600 Word.

00:46:39.240 Um, but I'm just, I'm just curious though, if I can, if I can kind of, uh, follow up here.

00:46:45.940 Why is it that you think he owes you money though?

00:46:48.380 Um, because he would lie to me about where the money was going. Um, he had money when he switched

00:46:57.060 jobs. So the girlfriend that he had was providing him money for everything. And he would tell me,

00:47:05.380 I'm on the streets. I'm going to be on the streets. Give me money. But really it was going

00:47:10.220 to the girlfriend and even a car. So did he, I mean, did he ever say that he was going to pay

00:47:19.120 you this money back? Was that like an agreement? Yes. Okay.

00:47:24.960 Hmm. So he would spend the money first boyfriend ever. You were giving him money. He would spend it

00:47:33.220 on another woman. Yes. It's a cold world. He would, uh, travel with her old world. We take 0.96

00:47:41.280 her on dates. I never got a date. Damn. That's, that's kind of, that's crazy. Yeah. So he's

00:47:49.400 using you. Wait, was this during, wait, this was, you like, had you detransitioned at this

00:47:56.460 point? When I met him, I detransitioned. So. Hmm. Well, I mean, how soon? Um, about a month

00:48:07.060 after meeting him. Okay. So when you guys started the relationship, were you, were you acting

00:48:16.560 as though it was a same sex relationship? I mean, yeah, but that's delusional. It was

00:48:24.640 not a same sex relationship. Well, I'm not, I'm not, because this is, this is really hard

00:48:30.340 to phrase, right? Um, but I, I think you, you know, you understand what I'm talking about.

00:48:35.460 Yeah, I understand. Did you, were you guys acting as though it was though? Um, he wasn't,

00:48:41.680 he would, he wasn't, no, he would just treat me like a woman. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. I was

00:48:49.560 going to say, because I mean, the story you told sounds like some shit that men go through 0.99

00:48:53.220 all the time, right? Not usually women. Yeah. It's like a, well, it's, it's actually getting 1.00

00:48:59.700 really common. The same thing happened to me essentially. It's like these congers guys.

00:49:04.180 Desiree, it's not, it's not your turn, Desiree. Let's say, let us, let us finish our conversation

00:49:07.880 with her, Desiree. So anyway, by the way, that's 10, Desiree. That's 10. But anyway, so, uh,

00:49:15.140 I was just curious if we could follow up. Um, did, does this guy have any intention of paying

00:49:20.480 you back or? I don't know. He's in prison. Oh, before he went, did he have any intention

00:49:27.720 of paying you back? Um, apparently he was trying to, well, his girlfriend was, but, um,

00:49:38.580 I don't care anymore. I, it wasn't about the money. I just genuinely loved him and I would

00:49:45.600 have done that for anybody that I loved if they were in that situation. It's just the

00:49:50.080 disrespect and the lying and obviously giving my money to another woman. It's, it's not about

00:49:57.880 the money. No, got it. No, I think anybody would feel like they were made to be a fool

00:50:04.060 if, if you were giving them cash and they were, you know, had like a secret double life, right?

00:50:08.580 Yeah. Were we going to ask you when you left about your dating? Do you want, about your

00:50:16.380 dating? Weren't we going to ask you a question? I don't remember. Oh, it was, I think he was

00:50:19.820 going to read the notes about her and then just start the conversation. Okay. Well, do

00:50:24.240 you want to talk about it? Um, oh, well I had like, sorry. Um, I had like, so I thought

00:50:33.120 last time I was on, I was intending to talk with Andrew, but he happened to not be there

00:50:38.280 a notification or something. So I was actually wanting to, I just, I had to host disagreement

00:50:45.640 about abortion. Okay. You can ask him about it. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I could just lay down

00:50:54.400 my argument, which is, so I don't believe that. Uh, so life is, in my opinion, does not start

00:51:05.580 at conception life. Uh, sperm is alive. Eggs are alive. So there's, you need life to create

00:51:13.280 life except, you know, when the world started, but anyways. Um, so I, my thing is viability.

00:51:21.860 I think you, I think you should be, it should be legal as long as, uh, as long as the baby

00:51:30.080 is, uh, needs to be in the stomach to survive because I believe that's an attachment of you

00:51:38.560 because anything that you do to your body, any, if you drink coffee, if you smoke, that

00:51:44.920 is going to affect your, uh, the thing that's growing inside of you. And you cannot have your

00:51:52.100 own, you, if you're pregnant, you have to really like watch you, like you could have an abortion 0.99

00:51:59.460 from an herbal tea. Like there are herbs that will induce an abortion. And so to say that

00:52:05.780 that's murder to me is not correct. And then I also have a point about IVF and, uh, I don't

00:52:14.600 think that the second. Can we, uh, if you, if you don't mind, can we stick to one point

00:52:18.660 at a time? Um, so can I ask a couple of clarifying questions if you don't mind? I don't mind.

00:52:24.920 So, okay, great. So the, uh, the first question I have is, uh, you said as long as the baby's

00:52:30.900 in the stomach, uh, then it's not murder. Is that correct?

00:52:34.440 Viable. So as long as it cannot be delivered and stay alive.

00:52:41.700 Okay. I gotcha. And so your, your ultimate dispute is, um, life, you say that life begins,

00:52:48.060 um, you know, outside of conception. What about human life? When does that begin?

00:52:52.340 So human life, I think, uh, I think when you're born, you are, you're considered legally a human

00:52:59.340 being. I, you're, it's a human, it's a human embryo. I think that's, or a human, you could

00:53:06.440 say.

00:53:06.760 Oh, well that, I mean, that can't be true, right? Because otherwise you wouldn't say that

00:53:10.380 the woman has to keep the baby in her stomach for as long as it's viable. 1.00

00:53:13.640 I don't care about the semantics, it is a human.

00:53:15.800 Hang on, hang on, hang on, my turn. You're making the affirmative claim that this is a human

00:53:21.040 life. It must be if it's viable, right?

00:53:24.700 Oh, well, sorry, there's a car. What?

00:53:28.920 Okay. So, so, um, what does viable mean? That's a human, right?

00:53:35.480 Viable means it's able to survive outside of the womb. So it can be a human being.

00:53:39.400 And it's a human? Is that a human being?

00:53:41.580 It's the, yeah, it's the human species. Yeah.

00:53:43.880 Okay. Yeah. It's a human being. So when does it become a human being?

00:53:46.760 When it's born, I think that it's murder.

00:53:49.140 It doesn't make any sense. Do you, hang on, do you understand that makes no sense? If

00:53:53.020 you say that it's viable in the womb and it's a human being, it can't also only be a human

00:53:58.820 being when it's born.

00:53:59.860 No, it's, it's, it's of the human species. I'm saying you have the right to, you have bodily

00:54:05.360 autonomy and, and you have to, you have to, okay, just give me a sec. You have to specifically

00:54:13.440 not kill it. You have to specifically not kill it because if you are just going about

00:54:18.040 your daily life, you could be pregnant and you don't know it and you, you drink alcohol

00:54:22.580 and then you're responsible. If that's murder, if you're responsible for your DNA that, that

00:54:28.180 you had sex and you're, you're pregnant and you have a sperm, you have an egg that's fertilized, 0.78

00:54:33.160 you have to specifically not kill it. 0.98

00:54:33.980 Hang on, hang on. You gotta reel it in because you're all over the place. You see, you're super

00:54:36.620 all over the place. So let's start with this. Okay. The idea that, um, okay, you could be

00:54:43.020 pregnant and not even know, but nobody would call that murder, right? Murder is the unjustified 1.00

00:54:48.340 taking of a life. In that particular case, if you have no knowledge that your action is

00:54:52.160 going to take a life, nobody would ever call that murder.

00:54:54.160 It would be manslaughter.

00:54:55.460 Nobody would ever call that murder.

00:54:57.300 Like if for instance, if I, let me finish point, please. So for instance, if I was on top

00:55:02.460 of a building and I was working, I was a construction worker and I had my hammer next to me and I

00:55:07.480 kicked the hammer off the roof, uh, and then it fell down, hit somebody in the head and

00:55:11.860 it killed them. I obviously didn't know they were underneath the hammer when I kicked the

00:55:15.720 hammer off the roof. So since that is true, I would not get charged with murder because

00:55:21.660 that would not be murder, right? That would not be considered murder.

00:55:26.260 It would be considered that that's a, that's a person that died. And I, and I don't think

00:55:33.400 that if you, if you don't, uh, take care of yourself and, and you, you, your, your, your,

00:55:41.880 uh, baby dies in your stomach from not taking care of yourself, I think you have to extend

00:55:47.620 that logic. If you're going to say that it's a life and that abortion is murder, I think you

00:55:52.740 have to extend that. Yeah, but I, maybe you do, but I still don't actually understand your

00:55:57.480 position because you said, you said that it's only a human life when it's born.

00:56:03.380 I did not say that. Okay. So when is it a human life?

00:56:07.380 It's always a human, it's a, it's a human. So I don't value, I don't, it's, if it's infringing,

00:56:14.240 it's always a human life. It's of the human species.

00:56:16.600 It's okay. Got it. It's always a human life. So then my, my, so then if that's true, then when

00:56:21.660 I say life begins at conception, I'm correct, right?

00:56:25.340 No, I wouldn't agree. It's, it's life before that. It's life before that. The things that

00:56:29.860 create the fertilized egg are human life before that. It's not human life before that.

00:56:34.960 It is, it's the two parts.

00:56:36.120 How is it human life before that?

00:56:37.780 So the two parts converge, the sperm and the egg that contain the DNA of a human.

00:56:43.780 Yeah, that, that's what makes it a human. So, so the human life begins at conception.

00:56:47.820 The value part is the human part, right? I don't value the not human part. Just like

00:56:52.500 I don't value, for instance, I don't care about fish, right? If you go out with an Uzi 1.00

00:56:57.140 to a pond and you just waste a million fish with your, I don't give a shit, right? I have 0.99

00:57:00.860 no value for it whatsoever, but it's still a fish, right? It's still a fish's life. So

00:57:05.960 we're talking about human life. Human life begins at conception. Do you disagree or agree

00:57:11.020 with that?

00:57:11.620 I disagree.

00:57:12.160 Okay. So what makes it a human life? Well, it's, it's a human life because it contains

00:57:18.300 human DNA. It's made of human DNA. So it's, so sperm and, and eggs, which is what a baby

00:57:24.680 is made of, which everyone's made of human DNA. That's human. That's, that's the materials,

00:57:30.840 the sexual materials to create life. And when they converge.

00:57:36.240 If I, if I, if somebody took a machete and cut off your arm, your arm would definitely 0.70

00:57:42.200 have human DNA. Would it be alive? 0.95

00:57:45.300 Yeah, you can not, no.

00:57:47.800 No, it wouldn't. So it just having human DNA has nothing to do with it being alive.

00:57:53.320 Sperm and eggs are alive. That's a fact.

00:57:57.120 Alive in what sense?

00:57:58.960 They are living just like cell, like, just like bacteria. I mean, bacteria isn't considered

00:58:04.640 alive if it was cut off of you. It wouldn't, it wouldn't an alarm, an arm that was cut

00:58:09.840 off of you also be alive by that same criteria.

00:58:12.640 It moves on its own. Sperm moves on its own. Egg. So eggs contain living organisms.

00:58:17.180 Arms can move on their own when they're cut off of you. Yes, they absolutely can.

00:58:20.480 I'm not talking about arms.

00:58:21.960 What's that?

00:58:22.540 I'm not talking about arms. We're talking about abortion. 0.71

00:58:24.860 No, you're not talking about arms. I'm, I'm testing your logic. I'm trying to explain

00:58:28.200 to you this concept, right? That all these things that you keep on claiming make this

00:58:32.840 life, I'm claiming are, uh, present in something you claim is not alive.

00:58:38.040 That's not, uh, well, uh, so I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out how it's actually alive.

00:58:42.760 Yeah. So I'll tell you the difference. The difference, the difference is actually an arm,

00:58:50.080 you could say is just as much of a person as a fertilized egg because it's human. It's not

00:58:57.440 yet. It's DNA. It has complete human DNA.

00:59:00.040 Exactly. Well, yes. And so does an arm. I mean, if that's, if that's what, if that's

00:59:05.320 your comparison, um, so you could, it's actually a good comparison that, that, that you made

00:59:11.780 in a sense.

00:59:15.140 I'm, I'm, I don't actually even understand your position. I'm like, I'm trying to, um,

00:59:20.820 um, so what makes, what makes a person alive? What makes a person alive? Let's start with

00:59:27.780 that. What makes life? What, what is that? Um, what, so when you're alive, uh, heartbeat

00:59:36.780 is one thing. And, but I would say for person, you can be alive with no heart.

00:59:41.580 Things can be alive. Things can be alive, but they can be non, non-human or non, or I can draw

00:59:49.340 a distinction where personhood begins. Well, I mean, scientifically it's anything that's carbon

00:59:54.780 derivative, right? Biological matter. Yeah. I'm trying, hang on just one step at a time. Let me,

00:59:59.820 let me try to at least understand what the position is because I'm still super confused as to what,

01:00:04.960 what your position even is. So as we kind of back up here, let's start with what does alive

01:00:12.720 mean? What does that mean? So alive means moving on its own and basically moving on its own and,

01:00:22.340 uh, being chemically made, having a genetic, yeah. And having a genetic code that, that you're made of.

01:00:31.440 Okay. So, um, so being alive, the criteria is going to be moving on your own and having some

01:00:40.160 kind of genetic material that you're made of. I would go by the scientific definition,

01:00:46.240 which I don't have memorized, but you could pull it up if you, I would agree with the scientific

01:00:50.720 definition if you want to pull it up, but not except for the part that disagrees with, with what I

01:00:57.200 believe, which is. So the part, so you wouldn't accept the part that disagrees with what you

01:01:02.480 believe. That's specific to abortion? You would just accept the part that agrees with what you 0.83

01:01:04.800 believe? The, the part that's specific to abortion, I don't agree with. Yeah. Doesn't the scientific

01:01:11.680 definition define human life as beginning at conception? That's human life. You asked, you asked

01:01:16.000 living. So I would say the, the scientific definition of life, I, I agree with. So. Yeah. What? Well,

01:01:23.600 I don't know what that is. Do you want me to pull that up? Well, I just, I just gave, I just gave some

01:01:27.440 examples of, of what I believe life is in essence. And if you want a full thing, you can look up what

01:01:35.200 the scientific definition is and that's what I'll accept. That's what I'll use. So have you,

01:01:40.160 so have you guys heard the research? Okay. So hang on. So what if the scientific definition

01:01:45.600 says that human life begins at conception? I would even say it begins before that is the

01:01:51.680 latest research. Hang on. Hang on. Can I, let her answer Desiree. When, so, so what if science says 1.00

01:01:55.840 human life begins at conception? I, I don't agree with that part. I'm saying life in general,

01:02:01.040 there's a scientific definition, which includes things like moving on your own, respiration. Uh,

01:02:07.600 you know, when you, when you go down to like the very small microscopic levels, these, you have things

01:02:13.920 that are moving on their own, eating things. They have genetic code. So those are some of the

01:02:20.000 things, but it is a philosophical question. I, if you want me to define life. Well, the only reason

01:02:27.280 I'm asking you to kind of give me some sense of it, so I know what you're even talking about.

01:02:31.120 Yeah. I just gave you a sense. So what we're, what we're quibbling over, uh, here is human life,

01:02:36.320 right? That's what we're actually talking about is when does human life begin? Yeah. I mean,

01:02:40.560 you agree with me that a human being requires DNA from mother and dad in order to become a human,

01:02:46.160 right? Yes. Yeah. So if that's the case, then it would require the sperm and the egg to be fused 0.92

01:02:51.840 before. Can I add something? Hang on. No, you can't. Can you just, can you just let us finish?

01:02:57.280 So if that's the case, right, then it would require an egg and a sperm for it to be human,

01:03:04.240 human life by your own criteria. A fertilized embryo is a egg and a sperm

01:03:10.480 combined and they are both living separate of that. Or, or you could say that, you could say

01:03:16.560 that eggs are alive. I just said, don't you think that the criteria for human life would require

01:03:21.200 the DNA of, of both a mother and a father? You said, yes. So if that's the case, then it would

01:03:26.320 require the sperm and the egg together in order to create human life, correct? Yeah. To have a

01:03:32.240 person. Yes. Yeah. So then, so then life begins at conception, human life begins at conception,

01:03:37.680 right? I don't believe that it's fully baked because I consider a human life to be something

01:03:44.000 that is autonomous and conscious. What criteria is it missing? We're about, if we continue,

01:03:50.080 we're probably going to lose our entire panel. We're going to lose our entire panel. We are going to

01:03:54.800 lose our panel. Okay. Was it you who wanted to talk about abortion in the first hour of this

01:03:59.120 conversation? I did not choose that. I, I, I had to step up. I don't know how that came up. I don't

01:04:04.400 control the conversation. But I have no idea how it, what's going on back there? Can we figure this

01:04:11.440 out, please? I can add some of the latest scientific data. That's what I was trying to interject

01:04:16.960 of what science is coming out with. Usually the main stream. Can you guys let me, can you guys let

01:04:20.960 me know what's going on back there? Is a decade behind what the science finds.

01:04:24.000 Hello, producer? What's going on back there?

01:04:39.520 Here, why don't you explain it on camera? Can you come explain it on camera?

01:04:42.240 No, just go to your, that's not the right way.

01:04:55.520 Do you want me to sit down?

01:04:58.560 Yeah, you can sit.

01:05:00.560 I just can't stay. I have to go. My friends just called.

01:05:05.680 About what?

01:05:06.800 They just want me back at the apartment. Our roommates just are coming back.

01:05:11.920 And I didn't know how long this was going to be. Yeah, we, yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry.

01:05:17.120 But I do have to go. So, thank you. Is it because of the nature of the conversation? No, no.

01:05:22.320 Yeah. I didn't realize that they had called. My phone was over there, so.

01:05:26.160 So, I went to go check it. Just what's the reason for the leave?

01:05:30.400 They just told me that, like, it wasn't worth my time. Is there, it's not worth your time?

01:05:36.400 Well, like, I didn't know seven hours and I have homework and stuff, because I have class in the

01:05:40.480 morning, so. At Santa Barbara City College? Yes. The prestigious Santa Barbara. Thank you.

01:05:46.080 It's not, okay. Peace out. Bye.

01:05:51.280 Rage, do we, is that a rage quit? I don't know if it's a rage quit, if it's a coward. It's a feminist 0.99

01:05:56.880 quit, for sure. Definitely a feminist quit. She's valuing her education over relationships. 1.00

01:06:01.600 How did we get to abortion? So, not me. The question, the question was asked if there

01:06:06.880 are any disagreements with the host. I did not ask that. Well, no, no, no. You said something

01:06:11.040 about a disagreement with the host or something. You said you wanted to bring up my notes, so that's.

01:06:14.640 It is a good topic, though. I can take it in a scientific direction with the nucleotides.

01:06:18.960 I feel like, I feel like what happened there was her friends told her not to do it.

01:06:25.680 Like, uh, Morgan, can you just take her seat? I think that's part of it. That's okay. Social

01:06:31.280 pressures. Females are extremely social creatures, much more than men. I mean, it's stressful. We're

01:06:37.360 very influenced by social pressures. Hard conversations. Yeah. All right. Desiree,

01:06:42.720 let's address the elephant in the room. How'd you address the essay on a happily married man

01:06:46.960 and show up like nothing happened? Has any apology been issued? Can you address it? Oh,

01:06:50.880 by the way, uh, on the discord, discord.gg slash whatever, I'll just post the bts of her two 0.58

01:06:57.280 friends who rage quit earlier or did a abandonment. And then we'll also post, I guess, that one too,

01:07:04.240 I guess. Um, so yeah, we'll post our discord, discord.gg slash whatever. I'll allow us to come

01:07:11.360 back to this conversation later on, but, uh, typically we like to kind of edge into things

01:07:17.760 a little bit before let's talk about abortion. You know, I know it's not your fault, but, uh,

01:07:23.920 I'm fairly confident. I'm fairly confident the panel, panel abandonment is when you invite on

01:07:28.960 an 18 year old liberal girl and you start talking about abortion. It's not going to go very well. So,

01:07:33.600 um, um, also we need to check on the NISA too. I don't know what's going on.

01:07:38.880 I was surprised as well. Uh, she's been up for a while. Um, okay. So, uh, Hillary Epstein,

01:07:47.680 elephant in the room. Do you want to address this? I thought we had kind of cleared the room

01:07:52.960 on the spot that show, like the, remember I conceded that I did do that and I felt like I

01:07:59.200 apologized and checked in with you guys to see if you were having any lingering post-traumatic stress 0.99

01:08:05.200 symptoms from my ass. So I am sorry. I'm very sorry for all of the psychological damages. 0.99

01:08:14.000 I can offer you a referral to some help for your damages if you need. I'm not sure what else I can

01:08:22.640 do, but a public apology and acknowledging that I did essay these two poor men on one of the episodes.

01:08:31.040 All right. Nick, you can pull up that super chat, please.

01:08:40.400 Why don't y'all ever have a Southern man on the podcast? All we get is Cali liberals. Y'all must

01:08:44.560 be scared of a real Southern man's input. Why is there never anyone from my side of the country?

01:08:49.600 This is all bullshit. Y'all never have a real God-loving Southerner on the cast. 0.99

01:08:54.640 Well, true. Tell you what, man, why don't you develop a YouTube channel and you can engage in

01:08:59.200 debates for half a year. And then when you're competent, actually having any sort of online

01:09:07.360 presence, we can talk about you coming on, but I don't invite a non on the show. So yeah, man, 1.00

01:09:14.640 sorry. Dylan Joe, where's Maddie? I'm scared. Also, when dating, what do we think of smoking?

01:09:18.880 Although we know it's bad for our health, you got admit it looks cool as blank. If you can pull it off,

01:09:23.600 no offense, Drew, hail to the king. Maddie's out of town for this week. She'll be back.

01:09:29.360 She'll be back next week. And also when dating, what was it? What did he say?

01:09:37.280 Yeah. So true. Yeah, man, start a YouTube channel, start uploading videos, do some debates.

01:09:44.320 Um, and six months, 12 months down the line, we'll take another look at it. If you have the chops,

01:09:54.040 we'll bring you on the show. Um, I've given way too many like random dudes shots who came on the show

01:10:01.000 and contributed nothing or detracted from it, come on the show. They're not prepared to argue with some

01:10:06.720 of these talking points from the other side. They don't benefit me in any way. In fact, a lot of them

01:10:11.440 blame me for their poor performance. They blame me for their poor performance and they're choking

01:10:16.860 because they expect me to give them the layup.

01:10:21.860 So I've had dudes who asked to be on the show. I give them a chance. They expect me to handhold them

01:10:29.320 to the like W fucking own dunk moment. It never happens. And then they talk shit about me after the 0.99

01:10:36.600 show because I didn't handhold them and give them the easy layup that they were looking for. So 0.99

01:10:41.140 don't do it anymore. Don't do it anymore. It is what it is.

01:10:44.980 So you prefer to work in a female centric environment? 1.00

01:10:48.300 What do you mean? I got Andrew right here.

01:10:49.700 That's true. And Andrew's like 25 guy arms right here.

01:10:52.380 Andrew's a fucking legend. 1.00

01:10:53.700 He is a fucking legend. 1.00

01:10:54.740 He's a fucking legend. 1.00

01:10:56.140 Good point. Good point. 1.00

01:10:57.440 It's like in elementary school, remember the boys would say,

01:10:59.940 me and this guy versus all you girls. It was like a, it was like a, a guy.

01:11:06.820 Absolutely. Remember they always won motorsports.

01:11:09.360 They did.

01:11:09.700 They did.

01:11:11.220 I happen to be a true Southern man.

01:11:13.460 Oh, you didn't use your little special, uh, grid. You didn't use your special little room

01:11:18.240 thing. Uh, let's do some reacts, Nick. Let's try to get through the reacts while you're still

01:11:22.560 here. Um, can you pull up the first one?

01:11:24.280 Yeah.

01:11:25.880 Thank you. Good one. Uh, good to see you in the chat, man. Appreciate it.

01:11:31.940 Okay. Um, yeah, we, we can do this one first. Uh, so actually before we play the clip, uh,

01:11:39.720 I'll have you tab over to the other one. So before I play this clip, guys, it popped up

01:11:43.780 in my feed.

01:11:44.680 No, it won't let me tab.

01:11:46.420 That's fine. You can, uh, it's the New York Post article.

01:11:50.060 So this woman actually, we reacted to her before. It's this, this is the same

01:11:54.200 woman. So she went on six dates a week. She didn't have to buy groceries for two years. 0.99

01:11:59.300 So she's just matching with dudes on Tinder or whatever dating apps so that she, uh, could,

01:12:04.520 uh, just eat for free in New York city. This woman's in New York city. When they say women 1.00

01:12:09.460 are bad with money, but you used to go on six dates a week to avoid paying for groceries,

01:12:13.260 scroll down a bit. Nick, there's a few interesting things in the article here.

01:12:16.820 Let's see. Uh, forget dine and dash former wall street trader dined to save cash. Uh,

01:12:24.180 went viral 2021 bragged that she went on six dates a week to avoid paying for groceries. 0.92

01:12:29.220 Uh, between 2016 to 2018, I didn't buy groceries once, probably saved about $150 a week.

01:12:35.700 And, uh, there's some more there. So let's go back. If you're able to tab back over

01:12:40.120 to the video, we'll react to it here real quickly.

01:12:42.540 Okay. Okay. You can go ahead and play it.

01:12:52.220 You want a traditional wife, then be a traditional man. You cannot ask for stay at home wifey 1.00

01:12:57.860 privileges. If you don't have stay at home wifey money, you want me to clean the kitchen. I'm happy 0.99

01:13:03.020 to clean the kitchen. If I get to wake up at 10, I get to clean the kitchen. I get to go lounge by the

01:13:09.760 pool. And then you come home at night. Like sure. No problem. But if I'm waking up at the crack of

01:13:15.360 dawn with you, we're both going to our two very demanding jobs and then coming home. Don't ask

01:13:20.580 me for anything you're not willing to do. If you want a tradition. Is that it? Um, I don't think

01:13:29.100 she's actually really wrong. Like I don't think she said anything wrong, but like bear in mind,

01:13:35.060 this woman used men for dates for a two year period so that she didn't have to buy groceries. 1.00

01:13:41.640 So, I mean, nothing about her prior conduct would indicate to me that she's a traditional woman.

01:13:47.160 Um, so she's making the claim here that she's a traditional woman sort of kind of, or at least

01:13:52.760 she's talking about that. So, um, I guess your guys' reaction to this clip going around the table.

01:14:00.220 It sounds like how a lot of women had have had to adapt to the wave of feminism and the economy

01:14:07.600 stuff that's kind of pushed us into the workforce. And so I think what a lot of us are trying to

01:14:12.060 communicate is we could switch. We could go one way or the other, because I think for the most part,

01:14:16.740 women are starting to value emotional connection and like the sexual or romantic relationship, 1.00

01:14:23.220 you could say, with men more than money, because so many of us are getting used to having to bring

01:14:29.360 financial resources to the table. So I would say a lot of women, I would put myself in this category 1.00

01:14:34.640 where I could switch. If I really was with a man who could afford the whole family and household

01:14:40.280 thing, and it worked for me to stay home and not be earning, then I could be fine with that and

01:14:45.460 respect the position. But if I chose a man who needed me to make money, I could also do that.

01:14:50.860 And I, I don't know. I just feel like that's kind of the modern, a lot of us are kind of like that.

01:14:55.020 Like, we're not saying we don't like to be home or we're not willing, but most men these days 0.95

01:14:59.480 couldn't afford like our full life with kids and all the whole thing. So that's just my...

01:15:05.740 Yeah, it's something. Like, I think that if you're not a traditional woman, you don't want 0.99

01:15:10.240 a traditional man. Like, I would never stay home if my man provided me everything. Because

01:15:15.700 if one day he wakes up... And that's right. You got to shut up. You got to let people finish talking. 0.99

01:15:22.360 Go ahead. No, I'm just saying that if one day he wakes up and he says, okay, I'm done. You're

01:15:28.960 like, you're alone and you don't have anything. I would rather be able to provide everything to my

01:15:35.860 family or whatever and, and like, can decide. Because if you, if you're not financiable,

01:15:44.520 uh, how do you say, like stable, uh, you can make a lot of choices. You have to stay at his...

01:15:51.600 True, true. It makes you more vulnerable to get stuck in a sort of a toxic dynamic if it goes that

01:15:56.560 way. Or even if your man passes away or something, God forbid. And I don't think that it's bad if

01:16:02.140 you, if you decide to stay home and you're having some sort of job skills. It's a...

01:16:06.240 Yeah. So like, it depends on your, your way to see things.

01:16:08.580 I'm sorry to cut in, but Brian, check your, uh, check your messages from me here in a second.

01:16:13.780 Yeah. Nick, I think you got to boost the audio back up.

01:16:17.820 May I add something? Or were you, were you still going? Okay. Um, I think the first part of her

01:16:23.680 video was a little bit misguided. Um, where did you, Andrew, did you? She, she has like a little

01:16:29.140 bit of the wrong idea of what a, um, stay at home wife in reality in the majority of, you know, 1.00

01:16:34.140 stay at home moms and what they do. 10 AM. That would be nice. And especially if you have kids,

01:16:39.240 but, um, she didn't mention kids. So stay at home wife. Um, but the first part of her video, 0.98

01:16:42.980 a little bit misguided. Um, I do believe that marriage is, is, or not marriage, I should say,

01:16:48.940 but, um, if you're, you have to be willing to be fluid, male, female, whatever, mostly as female.

01:16:54.720 Um, if you're going to be a stay at home wife, uh, especially if you do have a job as well, 0.95

01:16:59.460 you have to be able to balance all of that and be what, be the balance relationships like that

01:17:05.480 are like balance. If, if you're, if your man is the provider, you also, he takes care of your

01:17:10.580 exterior. You take care of his interior. You know what I mean? You have to bring that balance. Or if

01:17:14.920 your, your life you're building together requires that you both work, then fit into that role. You need

01:17:21.780 to be able to be versatile. And it seems like, it seems to me like, because women have had to become 1.00

01:17:28.360 so fluid, those of us who have children, whether we wanted the children or not, we end up with the

01:17:32.900 children. And obviously we're all trying to do our best to raise the children that we have.

01:17:36.680 So this fluidity of the gender role with women, I think what I'm noticing is the men are having a

01:17:43.960 little bit of a hard time catching up because there's so many of us that are just kind of like

01:17:49.000 could do it all. And they're still used to either a traditional woman or a progressive woman. And I 0.95

01:17:55.660 think they're kind of having a hard time deciding for themselves almost what type do I want? Or you

01:18:01.720 know what I mean? Cause I think they have fears with both types. You hear the argument that the

01:18:05.900 one side, they're afraid of the gold digger women who just want to like live off them. But then on the 1.00

01:18:10.660 other side, they're afraid of like the modern progressive woman who could just leave them at the 1.00

01:18:15.260 drop of a hat. So it's kind of like, so I need to allow the rest of the panelists to answer this

01:18:18.820 here, but I'm just going back to you really quick. Did you, you said even if a man could fully provide

01:18:25.580 for you, you'd still want to work. Is that correct? So like you married, let's say you, you want to get

01:18:30.140 married? Yeah. Let's say you married a guy who's making millions of dollars a year. Yeah. Still work?

01:18:34.460 Yeah. Okay. I don't know which work, like maybe I've not put myself into like a 12 hours a day

01:18:42.020 work, but yeah, I would definitely still work. Okay. What if he, well, what if he wanted you to stay at

01:18:49.240 home? I would say no. Do you want kids? Yeah. How many kids? Four. You want four kids? Yeah. Wouldn't

01:18:55.600 that be a job? Uh, yeah, but I think that you can figure it out in two. Like if I work and you work

01:19:02.880 with like, we organize things. So would you, would you want him to pay for, he could certainly

01:19:09.780 afford it, but would you want him to pay for daycare? Like a nanny, have somebody take care 0.99

01:19:14.960 of the kids while you went out and worked? Or I would pay for that. You said you're, you're studying,

01:19:20.960 well, you went to, uh, in Italy. Yeah. You got a degree in mechanical engineering. Yeah. I mean,

01:19:26.040 so once you finish with, are you going to go get a PhD or what's your plan? I would like to do it.

01:19:31.140 And then once you enter the work, once you enter the workforce, how much money do you

01:19:35.160 think you'll be making? I don't know. I hope a lot because I'm studying a lot to earn a lot

01:19:41.240 and to be like, I, I don't really like, I've dated to like poor guys. And, and the thing

01:19:50.480 is that I, I want to be like able to, to date whoever I want because I connect with them

01:19:58.080 and not like be in like a stress, stress situation for the money. So like I went to earn my money

01:20:05.340 and then organize the family with, with someone that it's not only about like the money, you

01:20:13.040 know, and who works. I mean, I would stay, I would stay with someone that stays at home

01:20:19.540 and I work. So if you could pick between a guy who makes, um, let's say 50,000 us dollars

01:20:30.180 a year, which means you're going to have to work too. And you, you are going to have four

01:20:34.420 kids also, or somebody who makes a million dollars a year and you'll never have to work.

01:20:40.580 Like, which do you pick? I would pick the one that I want to stay with. Like if I need

01:20:46.500 someone, you got to pick one. Yeah. But you can say like in this way, if, because it's

01:20:50.780 very like, uh, a mind thing, but all things, all things equal, I think is what he's saying.

01:20:56.180 Like you're equally distracted for the two. Yeah. They're both good men. Yeah. One of them

01:21:01.500 you're going to have to work and the other, I think that I would choose the one where I,

01:21:07.280 I have to work because I have my financial like freedom. So like, but you guys are married,

01:21:13.360 right? I don't care. That's not a point. Like a lot of people get separated, get divorced,

01:21:18.980 get whatever. I, I grew up in a family, uh, where my parents were divorced. The thing is

01:21:26.260 that if you're married or not, it doesn't, it doesn't matter. Like you, obviously you're,

01:21:32.400 you stay with your, um, your wife or your husband, but it can ends whenever, whenever.

01:21:43.120 I mean, I don't know if that's like kind of European vision, but a lot of people.

01:21:47.400 Do you intend to live in Italy? Like what's your, you want to stay here?

01:21:52.060 I would like to stay here, but I don't know if I'm going to stay here all my life or I'm

01:21:55.920 going to change it or go back to Europe. Let's say that, but I mean, in this situation,

01:21:59.300 you do get divorced from a guy who makes millions of dollars, your financial stability is potentially

01:22:09.280 arguably going to be better than your financial stability. Should you marry somebody who makes 0.92

01:22:14.460 less than you? So let's say you go on to make $150,000. I don't want to ask money to the other

01:22:19.900 person. Like if, if our, our relationship ends or whatever, I don't want to ask money to the other

01:22:26.940 end. Okay. That's fair. Techno Trooper donated $200. Panel, what are the top professions you feel

01:22:34.300 most drawn to in a partner when considering someone to marry or date? What about those careers makes

01:22:40.200 them especially appealing to you? Uh, Techno Trooper, we'll come right back to that in just a moment,

01:22:47.000 but, uh, I'll pull that one back up. Okay. Techno. Uh, so, okay. Um, reaction to the clip that we saw?

01:22:56.940 Oh, um, uh, I kind of started thinking about like other things, like listening to her. Um, but,

01:23:07.500 but like money wise, I mean, money is like a benefit for sure. I hope to make enough as well to be

01:23:17.740 financially independent to where I don't, uh. Well, the, uh, the reiteration just real quick,

01:23:22.920 right? The, just the reiteration of the clip is if a man wants to have a woman who's going to be

01:23:28.020 traditional and stay at home, then he needs to be in a position where she can do that by being a 1.00

01:23:32.440 provider who can, uh, provide enough to enable her to do that. Um, I mean, I think that's,

01:23:43.280 I think you can be a traditional man without being there yet, like financially, like you can have

01:23:49.360 traditional values and expectations. Um, so yeah, that's what I would say. I mean,

01:23:57.460 I kind of disagree, but I also think like traditional women probably want traditional men. 0.91

01:24:03.180 Hmm. Okay. Your thoughts on the video? Um, I mean, I agree with her. I grew up in a traditional

01:24:11.080 household, so my mom's a stay at home mom. My dad has provided since they were like 14 years old. So

01:24:19.040 that's what I want to, but I also don't expect a guy that I meet to be fully there yet. You know,

01:24:28.300 I'm still young and this is a different generation. So if that's just not possible, 1.00

01:24:35.920 I would be willing to work, but I would like to be a stay at home mom. Your reaction to the video?

01:24:44.280 Um, well, I feel like if you're a traditional man, then you should be actively looking for a

01:24:48.340 traditional woman. I think, um, men probably like have expectations and they expect you to change

01:24:53.460 with them. Um, me personally, I prefer, I would like a house husband. That's what a partner I

01:24:59.360 wouldn't look for. Cause, um, what is that? What is a house husband? The roles are, the roles have

01:25:04.400 switched. So you make the money, he stays at home, takes care of the kids basically. Basically take care

01:25:08.980 of the kids, take care of the home and do the cooking and cleaning. Cause I don't, I'd rather be

01:25:12.600 like, I don't want to stay at home and do that. Like I've, I tried the traditional way. I was not

01:25:18.260 happy whatsoever. Um, I love science. I'd rather be in a lab doing research and I want to just find

01:25:24.180 a partner who's willing to stay home and take care of my home. Can you, uh, can you help me out with

01:25:29.640 something real quick? Um, you, uh, you said that you love science. I'm also a big fan of science. Can you

01:25:36.700 just tell me real quick, um, what the scientific process is? Um, like the scientific method? Yeah.

01:25:44.420 So, let's see. Oh, they're testing me on this too. I guess ask a question, create a hypothesis,

01:25:54.280 conduct an experiment, um, see if it's null or whatsoever. And then, uh, it has to be repeatable.

01:26:04.220 The results have to be repeatable. It has to be repeatable and testable. So. Yeah. No, close enough.

01:26:13.080 So you want a house husband? Yes. Okay. And, um, was this part of the conflict with you and your

01:26:23.660 eight year relationship, the sperm donor guy or whatever that you said? Um, actually he was the

01:26:30.980 one staying at home, taking care of everything. Um, oh, you had, you had what she wanted. It was

01:26:36.280 just toxic. Remember? But it was very, very toxic. They couldn't even watch TV together.

01:26:39.940 Oh, that's true. Come on. Yeah, that's true. Um, okay. Um, house husband. So it was the right

01:26:49.340 setup, wrong guy. Kind of. Oh, right now I'm not working. I'm a full, um, full-time student slash

01:26:55.220 mom. Okay. So. Oh, okay. Um, do you live with like parents or? No, I have my own spot. Oh,

01:27:01.340 okay. But you're not working. Well, I have family housing at the moment. Okay. But he pays child

01:27:06.460 support the, or no, he doesn't pay child support the sperm donor. No. Would he be upset if he heard

01:27:15.320 you, you call him a sperm donor? I call him that all the time. No. To his face? Yes. Like you're

01:27:20.320 dropping off the kids. Yes. You fucking sperm donor. I mean, when we get angry, yes, I call him that.

01:27:27.440 I don't, but yes, I've told it to his face before. Um, I mean, I said a lot of mean things,

01:27:32.360 so I feel kind of bad. Damn. All right. Um, your reaction to the, oh, you already gave? I did 0.99

01:27:39.680 have a response to what you're too far from the mic, by the way. Sorry. Sorry. My bad. Um,

01:27:43.560 I did have a response to what she said about how something about how men are afraid to something

01:27:49.260 about men having fear about what their woman wants or something like that. Well, I think maybe 0.98

01:27:53.460 they're having a hard time with the fluidity that women have found as far as like being a 1.00

01:27:59.580 progress, being with a progressive woman versus a traditional. So I don't agree with that. And

01:28:04.000 here's why, um, women have asked literally through feminism to take on the roles men already have 0.56

01:28:11.100 women. Women were in the traditional role, you know, for, for eons and just up until the last, 0.97

01:28:18.380 what, 50, 60 years, they have wanted to take on more masculine roles, like having a job outside 0.99

01:28:24.300 the home. And so I don't feel like men have a fear of that at all. They're sitting back and

01:28:30.640 looking like saying that, okay, here's what we're giving you rights. We're giving you all these extra

01:28:35.440 things. Well, I just think that women in general gave a mixed message. So in that, in that respect,

01:28:42.680 women have literally asked to take on these extra things and men are sitting. Well, not every woman. 0.73

01:28:47.340 Let me finish. So, um, so in that regard, we're taking on these roles by choice. We're taking on

01:28:56.360 these extra things by choice and men are sitting back and saying, okay, you wanted this. Let's see

01:29:00.380 you work. I let's see you. Let's see you do it. Well, I think the real problem is that. You have

01:29:04.040 got to stop interrupting, honestly. Sorry, I'm autistic. I'm done. Um, the way that I see it is that just

01:29:10.600 because feminism posed itself as what every woman wanted, that's not the case. There were tons of 1.00

01:29:17.200 women who were perfectly happy, me being one of them, perfectly happy with like the traditional

01:29:23.460 whole life role of like getting married, having kids, raising the kids, being the same. I wanted

01:29:29.540 that. What are you fucking talking about? You absolutely hated it. You write all about it in 1.00

01:29:33.300 your book, how much you hated the traditional lifestyle. You wanted to work in the worst way.

01:29:37.980 You were totally oppressed by the patriarchy. You wrote an entire fucking book outlining this. 1.00

01:29:43.240 It's because I was simply married, like in your case, right position, but wrong man, like 1.00

01:29:50.460 very, very wrong man. And so I had a very bad experience with it. But now is women against

01:29:55.960 this exact type of relationship and tell them that it's probably bad for them and to embrace 0.97

01:30:00.540 their intersexual hooker basically. I think you've misunderstood because you gave such a brief 0.93

01:30:11.080 look through my book and just made your judgment. But what I was really expressing is that what I was

01:30:15.880 really expressing was that I was never taught how to pick a healthy relationship. Therefore,

01:30:22.600 when I got into the role that I believed I wanted, it felt completely wrong because I was with the

01:30:31.560 completely wrong guy. That was more what I was getting at. And so part of my journey back to a more

01:30:37.320 traditional mindset involved me going through the stint of feminism. Like, okay, let me see what these 1.00

01:30:44.520 girls are talking about with this, that all this craziness, freedom, liberation, all the way to come back 1.00

01:30:50.920 around to my next book will be like my journey back to a more traditional female or nurturing role.

01:31:01.560 Wait, there's no tradition here. What do you mean? You're an only fan sex worker. By no means have

01:31:09.720 you circled back to a traditional role. I'm a stay-at-home homeschool mom of three kids.

01:31:16.040 That's as traditional as I can be right now. I don't have a husband.

01:31:18.920 What is, okay, so what does traditional mean? Does that just mean a man goes and works while you stay

01:31:23.720 the fuck home? Is that all you think traditional is? Or is there a set of values with that? 0.99

01:31:27.320 I think it means prioritizing home economics and raising children if you have them. 0.98

01:31:35.400 So, so then it doesn't mean shit. So all it means is a woman stays home and she watches the kids and 0.97

01:31:42.200 the man goes out and works. That's all you think traditional is? No, I believe it's the, it's the

01:31:47.800 general submission of the woman and the general leadership and dominance of the man, if there was

01:31:54.280 one. In my case, I don't have one. So that part of the tradition is not in my life right now.

01:31:59.880 Every non-traditional relationship on planet earth can have all women submitting to men, 1.00

01:32:07.160 all of them. And it would still be as far from traditional as you can imagine. They could do

01:32:11.480 something like five, I don't know, uh, all the women go out and work and the man stays home and 0.96

01:32:16.680 the woman still submits to him, right? Like all of the criteria that you just laid out for traditional 0.99

01:32:22.120 from, it just sounds like gobbledygook to me. Like there has to be some value set that we're

01:32:26.520 looking for that we're leaning towards for why we're doing this.

01:32:30.520 I'm speaking from, I'm not speaking from like a capitalistic domestic business partnership. I'm

01:32:36.760 talking about like an agape love, like soul connection with another human where you're both

01:32:42.760 in it to win it with each other, a ride or die. Like, so basically we can switch in and out of roles

01:32:48.680 depending on the season we're each going through. So for example, if I just, if, well, maybe,

01:32:54.360 maybe it's not then maybe it's a blend, maybe it's a more, it's a bridge. It's a bridge.

01:33:00.680 It literally just sounds like modernism to me. Like traditionalism, the idea of traditionalism

01:33:06.200 is it's historically a thing, an experiment which worked. And so you're moving back towards whatever

01:33:12.280 this thing was that worked because it's better than whatever the current thing is.

01:33:16.120 Well, because we've evolved, Andrew. So we no longer live in a social construct that's going

01:33:22.200 to support traditional traditionalism, if you want to call it that. It's not going to work

01:33:28.760 anymore. It won't work anymore. We've simply evolved too far as a society.

01:33:34.520 Not only that, people are, people are desperate to get back to some sense of what you call

01:33:38.840 traditionalism by your own admission, including you. So the thing is, is like, no, I don't think

01:33:43.640 we've evolved past shit. And not only that, you know, just give my take, the woman in the video 0.98

01:33:49.480 is just a typical kind of selfish woman. So her idea here, it all starts with this false 0.98

01:33:54.440 supposition of the word fair. This entire worldview revolves around this idea of fairness.

01:34:00.600 Life's not fair. Relationships aren't fair. Marriages aren't fair. 1.00

01:34:05.720 When you're talking about equally yoked, that means something completely different than who does 1.00

01:34:09.560 the dishes on Thursday. That has nothing to do with any of that. What you're looking at

01:34:16.280 inside of one of these relationships should not be the idea of fair. It should be the idea of what

01:34:23.000 works best for your family. And what's always going to be-

01:34:27.560 So fluidity. So fluidity. You need to be fluid for the family. 0.90

01:34:29.720 Let me finish Desiree. It's okay, Desiree. Just let me finish real quick. What works best for your

01:34:34.280 family dynamic? And so the traditionalists are saying what works best for society and the family

01:34:39.960 dynamic is to have women stay at home to raise the kids, not in laboratories. And the reason they 1.00

01:34:45.320 don't want women in laboratories is because then they have to outsource the childcare. So I want the 1.00

01:34:49.960 smartest women at home raising the next generation of really smart kids, right? That's what I want. 1.00

01:34:55.880 So that's what I'm doing.

01:34:56.680 That would make a lot more sense than wasting their potential and breeding years on having

01:35:02.440 them in a job that a man can do. So the idea here is that the traditionalist movement is saying

01:35:09.880 modernity is screwed up with our priorities set because women have become extremely self-centered 1.00

01:35:17.160 around this idea of fair, when in fact there is nothing fair. Women don't have to sign up for 1.00

01:35:23.400 a draft, for instance. That's not fair. Women are not the people who have to defend you while you sleep. 1.00

01:35:27.480 That's not fair. All sorts of things which aren't fair, but yet for some reason men are able to deal

01:35:33.080 with it and women don't seem to be able to deal with it. 1.00

01:35:39.320 Are you done?

01:35:39.720 So a couple of things. First of all, I was enlisted to go into the US military, but I got pregnant and

01:35:50.120 I had to sign a military discharge. So I was fine as a woman going into the military. Just a caveat.

01:35:56.040 But I will say that it sounds to me, it sounds to me like by your definition, I am actually a

01:36:03.640 traditional woman because I have made many sacrifices to figure out a way to still be a

01:36:09.800 stay-at-home mom and a homeschool mom at that of my three kids and not work outside the home. I

01:36:16.600 figured out a home business that I could do that made enough money with me only working a few hours

01:36:22.440 a week. And by the way, that's not making new content because I have tons and tons of content from when

01:36:28.040 the kids used to go to their dads every weekend. So they were never around any of that. It's no

01:36:32.680 different than how you made your online courses. Now it's there and all you have to do is promotions,

01:36:37.640 basically. Same for me. So judge it all you want. That was what worked for me. That was the supply and

01:36:43.880 demand. I tried to do the online coaching thing, writing books, the whole thing, and nobody was going

01:36:49.320 for it. I really don't think that what we mean when we say traditional lifestyle is your mom stays

01:36:55.720 home because she can also engage in prostitution. I don't think that that is traditional. I don't 0.69

01:37:01.080 think about anybody's metric that would ever be considered traditional, Desiree, ever. And so the

01:37:06.040 thing is, is I'm not even trying to beat you up about it. I'm just telling you, like, how would that

01:37:10.040 ever fit a metric for traditional? We want the best and brightest to stay at home and take care of

01:37:16.040 their kids instead of being in a lab, not hookers, right? That's not what we're after. Like, maybe the 1.00

01:37:21.960 hookers should outsource the child care. So could you, could you tell me a better way that I could 1.00

01:37:27.080 make, let's say $6,000 a month and only work a couple hours a week because I have to full-time

01:37:33.720 take care of three kids? I would do instead. What should I do? Well, of course, there's tons of

01:37:37.960 other better ways that you could have spent your time to make $6,000. I mean, I'm curious. Hang on,

01:37:42.280 stop, Desiree. Let me answer your question. So the first supposition here is that you must make $6,000

01:37:48.120 a week. Why must you? Because that's how much my cost of living is. Oh, okay. So you can't

01:37:53.160 downgrade? There's no way I live in Southern California. I live in Southern California. My

01:37:58.120 rent alone is $2,700. Wait, wait. I just want to make sure I got this right. Southern California

01:38:02.680 costs $24,000 a month to live in, huh? No, $24,000. I said $6,000. You said $6,000 a week. No, $6,000 a

01:38:09.400 month. A month, honey. A month. $6,000 a month in Southern California working an entry-level job,

01:38:15.480 Desiree. But then who's going to watch the kids? Who's going to homeschool

01:38:18.060 my kids? Yeah. In that case, because you're a single mom, you're going to have to outsource 1.00

01:38:22.780 that. There's no choice there. But I don't want to. I would rather have a bad reputation

01:38:28.480 with guys like you and raise my own kids. I don't give a shit what you think. And many, 1.00

01:38:33.320 many men have grace and understanding for my choices because they understand. This is my

01:38:38.060 point. You're making my point for me, right? Which is, okay. So what you say is, look, I'm

01:38:43.460 actually just prostituting myself for the kids, right? Because I want to be able to stay at

01:38:47.480 home with the kids. Yet I would counter and say, okay, but the integrity is absolutely

01:38:52.860 compromised. Your children are never going to thank you later. They're never going to

01:38:56.720 be like, you know, mom. My kids are not raised in a puritanical, like, sex-negative type of

01:39:04.480 culture. It's not puritanical. They're going to get to the age of reason. This is a totally

01:39:06.860 different generation, Andrew. They're not sexually repressed like your generation is. They're

01:39:12.480 cool. The women in the 70s were so sexually repressed. Tell me another fucking bullshit 0.77

01:39:17.080 lie. They weren't sexually repressed at all. Boomers weren't sexually repressed. That's 1.00

01:39:21.620 all nonsense. Overly sexualized generation, in fact. The thing is, is that this is the 0.96

01:39:27.220 first generation, the Zoomers, where we see pushback towards this type of sexualization 0.87

01:39:31.520 for once, finally. And if you think that your kids won't hit the age of reason and go, you

01:39:37.100 know, mom, I think that there might have been better fucking ways. They're there. They're 0.99

01:39:39.940 going through, the two older ones are going through puberty. So they're kind of at that

01:39:43.580 questioning everything. No, they're not at it yet. But when they're in their 20s, you're

01:39:48.320 going to have some splinter. I believe that my relationship with my children is strong enough

01:39:54.060 such that even if they had looked back and had an issue with what I was doing, I don't think

01:39:59.520 it would be any bigger of an issue than any person who comes of age and starts judging what

01:40:05.860 their parent did, I don't think it will be. In fact, I can say for sure, it's not going

01:40:10.820 to be worse than my evaluation of my parents. I'll tell you that. So at least I'm like doing

01:40:15.760 a little bit better.

01:40:16.780 Listen, not all choices, not all choices when you fuck something up are optimal choices.

01:40:21.480 So for instance, if you are in a marriage and you choose to end the marriage, because 0.98

01:40:26.020 like you said in your book, you're not feeling like fucking, like you're an amazing queen or 0.99

01:40:30.240 whatever. Because I was under CPS order basically to leave my marriage or I would get my kids 0.99

01:40:39.340 taken away as an accomplice to my ex.

01:40:41.440 Anyway, so whatever the circumstances are, you end up with a divorce. Okay. So when you

01:40:47.300 end up with a divorce, now you're in an immediate or unoptimal situation, which is okay. Now we

01:40:53.700 either have to split custody or one of us has full custody. You have a whole battle that you

01:40:57.320 have to do around that. So now you don't have optimal choices at this point. Okay. But

01:41:02.680 there's still better choices to be had, I think, than posting up pictures of you with jizz 0.93

01:41:07.200 on your face. I think that there's better decisions which could be made than that, honestly, Desiree.

01:41:11.900 And the thing is, is like, fine, you can say, no, you know, Andrew, but what this has done 0.99

01:41:16.740 is it's allowed me to have enough money to do A, B, C, and D. But that's all shit for you. 1.00

01:41:22.240 You just love the fucking attention. You're not doing this shit because of your kids. You 1.00

01:41:26.720 do it because you love the fucking attention. You just love it. It's your favorite. And I think 1.00

01:41:31.460 that you should just stop coping and be honest about it. May I add something?

01:41:37.140 May I add something? Go ahead. So some other options. My kids are 19 going on 20 and 16 going

01:41:44.080 on 17. Back when they were young, both of them, I was lucky enough and we were able to provide for

01:41:51.440 the households that I could be a stay-at-home mom for a few years while they were little. During that

01:41:54.980 time, I didn't work. During that time, I found other pursuits that were maintaining of my self-respect

01:42:00.260 and my dignity and the respect of my family members and friends. I started a business and

01:42:06.360 ran that business from home where I was a seamstress. I made clothes. I made prom dresses

01:42:11.760 for underprivileged females in high school. And I did, you know, alterations, fully made clothes.

01:42:18.620 That was a fully sustainable business for me and it provided extra income for the family,

01:42:22.340 not for myself, but for my family and helping raising my kids. And that is something that I

01:42:27.280 feel is an alternative. Use your skill. And unfortunately, I, okay. So in the second time

01:42:33.900 when my son was born and he was until the age of two, I was able to sit down and put words on paper

01:42:40.680 and I have yet to put that into actual publishing. So I have a book waiting to be put out. So there's

01:42:46.220 that on the table. And right now, even though I'm working full-time, I'm not a stay-at-home mom,

01:42:51.160 I'm looking into starting another business and doing, you know, like organic skincare,

01:42:55.960 stuff like that. So those are all the respectable things.

01:42:58.620 So I actually had careers. I had side hustles doing all that.

01:43:02.560 What are the top professions you feel most drawn to in a partner when considering someone

01:43:07.480 to marry or date? What about those careers makes them especially appealing to you?

01:43:13.860 Is that a repeat?

01:43:15.380 What?

01:43:15.780 Is that a repeat?

01:43:16.420 It was from before.

01:43:17.080 We didn't answer it. I told them we'd come back to it. So what are the top professions you

01:43:21.240 feel most drawn to in a partner when considering someone to date or marry? Go ahead.

01:43:25.600 Um, mine would be entrepreneurship and specifically in social media, like social media marketing,

01:43:31.340 basically social media presence.

01:43:33.160 Okay. What about you?

01:43:33.940 Uh, I think psychology is a great skill that I would value a lot. So like a therapist or

01:43:40.420 anything that has a psychology degree.

01:43:43.580 You sure about that one?

01:43:45.240 Oh, what?

01:43:47.140 Okay. All right. Uh, well, I mean, uh,

01:43:52.460 I mean, money is good too, but.

01:43:54.560 You want to date a therapist so you can tell them all your problems?

01:43:58.540 Well, hopefully I'm like.

01:44:00.120 So you can get like free therapy basically?

01:44:02.240 Well, I just think they're like more emotionally in tuned.

01:44:06.640 Are they?

01:44:07.820 Well, they should be.

01:44:09.060 Why is that?

01:44:10.020 Because if you're a therapist, I think you should, well, you should have more skills than

01:44:14.720 the average person.

01:44:17.420 Desiree, aren't you a therapist?

01:44:18.660 Yeah. And it's, it's an odd thing because to be honest with you, we get very almost calloused

01:44:25.100 because we hear so many crazy things. So in a lot of ways we start to almost lack empathy

01:44:31.640 because we hear it over and over the most horrific things. So that's why a lot of people think I'm

01:44:37.200 literally like a narcissist or a psychopath or something.

01:44:40.060 Desiree, just one correction.

01:44:41.800 So I know she's sitting right next to you, but like the way the camera angles work, just talk

01:44:46.380 straight, straight, keep your head straight into the mic. Go ahead.

01:44:49.700 Yeah. So it's not what people would think when you are in a clinical setting or in any sort of

01:44:55.460 setting where people are coming and telling you like their deepest traumas or confessing to you

01:45:00.900 things that they have done, especially after 10, 15, 20 years of that, as I did in church counseling

01:45:07.180 and all this stuff. And now even in doing OnlyFans, a lot of my chats are people.

01:45:13.620 I'm sorry, I have to interrupt you. Psychology is a soft science. What a great use of four years

01:45:17.780 to get a degree to be a receptionist. Desiree, on one hand, like you don't need to quip 0.93

01:45:26.440 every single time. Like sometimes you can just not equip. Like you're just throwing,

01:45:32.400 like you're, you have to add on after everything, every time somebody says something, you don't got

01:45:38.600 to do that because this show will go way too long. If I have to go to her, then you have to say a

01:45:44.440 statement. I go to her, you do a little quip. I go to her, you got to make a statement about it.

01:45:49.160 I go to Morgan, you make a statement, just keep it pertinent. Okay. You don't got to like,

01:45:55.440 you've been talking for 30 minutes. You've talked more than she has. And it's her thing.

01:46:01.760 Okay. Just like, let people talk. It's just my autism. So I, when I am passionate about something.

01:46:08.720 That's cope. People who are autistic don't have to like constantly be like, let me,

01:46:14.140 let me be the center of attention and add on to what everybody else is saying.

01:46:19.720 Well, what it does is it triggers, it triggers my autism. So if you can keep your autism under control

01:46:24.900 so that I can keep my autism under control, that would be fantastic.

01:46:28.260 It also triggers my autism.

01:46:29.920 I told her to pitch me.

01:46:31.020 It triggers our autism. It triggers everybody's autism when you're being autistic. So if you

01:46:34.920 could just dial that back.

01:46:35.880 My autism is going out of control right now. Okay. Um, so, okay. You want to date a therapist.

01:46:41.460 Um, cool. What about you?

01:46:44.740 Um, just don't be homeless.

01:46:47.400 Well, okay. So the question is, what are the top professions you feel most drawn to in a partner?

01:46:51.580 I'm drawn to. I haven't thought about that.

01:46:56.580 Are there any professions where you're like, oh, that, that would be kind of attractive. Like if

01:47:00.440 they're a doctor or a lawyer or something like that.

01:47:03.800 I think a therapist and a doctor I'd consider attractive.

01:47:09.140 I never thought about that. I, so a therapist, I dated a homeless guy and never thought about

01:47:17.180 that. Okay. All right. What about you? Profession?

01:47:20.840 I don't think I have any, like I would date someone that. Okay.

01:47:25.260 What he likes. I don't know. Like I don't feel, I, I don't.

01:47:28.480 Okay. So, so here, let me, let me make this easy. So you're saying if I present to you two men

01:47:35.660 who are about the same, treat you well, whatever, one of them's a doctor and the other works at

01:47:41.920 McDonald's, you're not going to have, you're not going to have even like a little preference towards

01:47:47.460 the doctor.

01:47:48.740 Yeah. Yeah, I do. But I don't have like one specific job. I mean, you, I did a guy that

01:47:57.920 was a, a kite surf extractor. So like, uh, Morgan, anything for you? Football player?

01:48:03.720 Yeah. Pro athlete. Pro athlete. There you go. Okay. NFL or NBA or what do we?

01:48:09.100 Any, I don't know. NFL maybe. NFL. Okay. All right. What about you?

01:48:12.920 Um, I would either choose like a chef or, um, a physicist, preferably quantum physics or a

01:48:18.360 scientist. That's specific. Cool. Cool. Anything for you? Uh, given your example, I would obviously

01:48:23.300 choose the doctor in your example given. Um, but overall I really don't give any thought. Um,

01:48:28.740 I would consider the McDonald's worker or the, the, you know, I'd never really consider that in,

01:48:36.280 in the equation of considering a partner. What about you? Maybe like a lawyer.

01:48:41.060 Lawyer. Okay. What kind of lawyer? Maritime? Um, I'm not sure. It could be any.

01:48:47.540 Any lawyer. Okay. And then we had Hillary Epstein psychology is a soft science. What a grace use 1.00

01:48:54.480 of four years to get a group, get a degree to be a receptionist. That's from Hillary Epstein. 1.00

01:49:00.460 Thank you, Hillary Epstein. Appreciate that. Let's do some more reacts. Let's move it along. 0.97

01:49:04.600 Uh, if you can pull it up, Austin. Yep. What do you want to react to? Well, just what, whichever one's

01:49:10.640 already up. Okay. It should already be up. Is it F11? Yep. Okay. Uh, this is Jade. Wait, can you zoom

01:49:18.560 it out a bit? It's like super zoomed. Okay. Oh wait. Uh, zoom it out more. Now you might be wondering

01:49:26.600 why, why, why I pulled this up. I noticed you cropped out a guy there who's like blasted in

01:49:32.660 tats. My bodyguard. Is there, wait, you have a bodyguard? Kind of. He's like my family members.

01:49:40.760 Oh, okay. Related. Yeah. Okay. He's like, I thought it was like maybe a boyfriend or something like

01:49:46.320 blasted. No. Oh, he's gay. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Oh, all right. Uh, let's do the next one, 0.95

01:49:52.200 Austin, if you can get the next one going. Uh, okay. This is your TikTok. So we, uh, we're

01:49:58.220 going to react to some of the TikToks. So, uh, can you mouse wheel, we'll make it a little

01:50:03.480 bigger or it's, uh, yeah, a little bigger, uh, too big. That's that three. Yeah, that's

01:50:11.300 good. Uh, so this first one, I just want to know what it is about me that this is your,

01:50:16.400 I guess, most viral one. We're not going to play it. Don't worry. I just want to know what

01:50:20.160 it is about me that makes guys reject me while other girls my age have had multiple

01:50:24.780 boyfriends and talking stages. Um, so you're, you're 24. Yeah. But I mean, you did have

01:50:32.620 a boyfriend, the homeless guy. He would see me like twice a month. So I don't know if I'd

01:50:39.240 consider it a boyfriend, but he was my boyfriend. And so kind of that video went viral. Yeah.

01:50:47.760 Uh, but I'm sure you got like a lot of DMs from guys, right? Uh, no, not really. Not

01:50:53.700 really? No. No. Okay. A bunch of girls. A bunch of girls. What did they say? Yeah. Um,

01:50:59.080 supportive things. Some lesbian woman. Oh, some girls were like interested in you. Yeah. 0.99

01:51:04.840 Can you pull it back up really? Uh, Austin, uh, mute the audio.

01:51:11.060 Oh, no, no. So do you know how to mute the audio? There's a button at the top of the keyboard.

01:51:15.380 Make sure you don't press that one. Okay. Um, okay. Click, click it. Okay. Oh, at this

01:51:20.380 point it's hopeless. We're not going to, no, no. We're not going to play the audio. X out

01:51:22.380 of it. Just X out. Okay. At this, so it's hopeless? When did you post this? Um, I think back in June.

01:51:30.380 Okay. Um, okay. A couple months ago. Yeah. June, July. Okay. So you struggle with dating? Yeah. But I think I kind of know the reason why. And it's not the theories in the comments. Um, I think it has to do with my detransition.

01:51:47.380 Like, I technically grew up my teenage years the way a boy would. So I don't know anything. I never experienced being a teenage girl, you know, how to navigate boys. And I don't know anything.

01:52:09.380 I never experienced being a teenage girl, you know, how to navigate boys. And I'm experiencing that now. Like, I never dated. I just had the one boyfriend. And I only get men in a friendship context. Like, I don't know. It's socially acceptable romantically. So, but you know, I take it personally. And that's why in the video, I'm comparing myself to the woman around me. You know, they get approached. They talk about having rosters.

01:52:38.380 And I just don't get it. But I think it has to do with my detransition. Aren't you on? Oh, we also have your dating app profile, too. You're on your how long you've been on the dating app for? Two years. Two years. And then you also have your social media presence. So I'm assuming you're getting quite a bit of it. I mean, maybe you're getting some attention, right? Some DMs? Um, I guess.

01:53:05.460 Well, there's a differential here. So are you not getting the attention from the type of men that you want and that you're attracted to?

01:53:17.560 Um, people with anime profile pictures. I don't know. Not real men, you know? Like, or they live in different states. Um, unrealistic things like that.

01:53:29.180 Nope. Nope. Okay. Um, pull it back up, the TikTok.

01:53:33.760 Yeah.

01:53:35.920 One, I had her dating app.

01:53:37.580 Oh, yeah. It's just, it's fine.

01:53:41.380 One sec, guys. We're getting it in just a sec.

01:53:43.880 Can I say something or add something?

01:53:45.800 Just a sec. Uh, scroll down a little bit.

01:53:49.040 Okay. So, uh, the, the one on the far right here, women approaching men first is a 99% success rate.

01:53:58.200 I'm pretty sure I've said this shit. 0.98

01:53:59.920 Uh, so why do I keep getting rejected and ghosted? 0.99

01:54:04.180 Um, so I'm going to tie these two TikToks, these, these first two together a little bit.

01:54:10.040 So, um, let's explore this a little bit.

01:54:15.440 Um, first with the rejection or, well, going to the rejection one, how many guys have rejected you?

01:54:22.140 Um, I don't know a number, but I think that was more so tied to the first date that I had.

01:54:30.580 And after that, you know, approaching guys, I think I'm just too bold romantically.

01:54:37.900 Like I said, I don't understand romantic cues.

01:54:42.340 I don't know what's socially acceptable.

01:54:44.600 Well, so did you approach the first guy that you went on a date on with?

01:54:49.060 Yes.

01:54:49.760 Okay. So how did you approach him?

01:54:52.420 Through hinge.

01:54:55.540 Well, okay.

01:54:56.420 Oh, we dated.

01:54:57.780 What?

01:54:58.620 We went on two dates.

01:54:59.740 And this is the guy from like two years ago, right after you broke up with your two-year boy.

01:55:03.820 Yeah, right after.

01:55:04.500 Uh, so you approached him on hinge.

01:55:06.720 What does that mean?

01:55:08.380 I matched with him first.

01:55:09.940 I liked him first.

01:55:11.600 Who sent the first message?

01:55:13.200 I did.

01:55:14.000 What did you say?

01:55:15.580 Um, I forgot.

01:55:16.780 I complimented him and he asked me out on a date.

01:55:21.480 Okay.

01:55:22.760 And have you done any approaches in person?

01:55:25.940 Um, when going to clubs.

01:55:30.740 Uh, yeah.

01:55:33.680 It doesn't work out.

01:55:35.980 How often do you go out to clubs or bars?

01:55:38.360 Not often.

01:55:39.940 You know, I went when I was traveling.

01:55:42.760 Occasionally.

01:55:43.300 Very occasionally.

01:55:44.120 I don't do it every weekend.

01:55:45.620 I don't do it every month.

01:55:46.740 It's occasional.

01:55:47.780 But every time has failed.

01:55:49.680 You can't hide that, Austin.

01:55:51.180 The discord.

01:55:52.400 Or I guess it's fine.

01:55:53.900 Um, uh, sorry.

01:55:56.140 Repeat yourself.

01:55:57.500 Um, occasionally.

01:55:58.540 So I don't go out every weekend.

01:56:01.640 Not even every month.

01:56:03.120 But every time it just hasn't worked out.

01:56:05.780 Well, I need to investigate this a little bit.

01:56:08.400 Because women will say, like, I made eye contact with him. 0.92

01:56:12.560 Um, and that's, like, the female version of making a move. 1.00

01:56:16.160 So I need you to be very specific when you say, like, you're making the move or you're

01:56:20.540 approaching men.

01:56:21.560 At bars and nightclubs, are you walking up to men and saying, hi, I'm Jade?

01:56:27.320 I guess not, like, saying hello, but trying to approach them.

01:56:34.120 So what do you mean?

01:56:35.580 What do you mean?

01:56:37.600 Like, walking up to them.

01:56:39.740 So you are approaching them.

01:56:41.660 In a way, yeah.

01:56:43.020 Are you walking up and standing next to them without saying anything?

01:56:47.100 Making eye contact.

01:56:48.880 I like eye contact.

01:56:51.220 So do you, okay, just be really clear with me.

01:56:53.840 Yeah.

01:56:54.180 Do you walk up and say something to them?

01:56:56.480 No.

01:56:57.640 So what do you do?

01:56:58.840 I've been told that that's not acceptable as a woman.

01:57:01.140 It's absolutely acceptable.

01:57:02.780 But so, so tell me what you exactly do.

01:57:08.220 Haven't caught up on.

01:57:10.320 But tell me, so, okay, pull it, pull it back up, the tick, uh, tick tock.

01:57:15.440 Okay.

01:57:15.920 Women approaching men first is a 99% success rate.

01:57:18.740 So why do I keep getting rejected and ghosted?

01:57:21.420 Okay.

01:57:21.740 Okay.

01:57:22.020 So aside from two years ago, when you sent, you matched with a guy, you sent the first

01:57:26.840 like on the dating app and you sent the first message.

01:57:30.200 Yes.

01:57:31.460 I mean, not, not really what I call putting yourself out there.

01:57:35.760 He ghosted me after the two dates.

01:57:38.260 Yeah.

01:57:38.620 But that's also, but you didn't really, I mean, I mean, that also has to do with me DMing

01:57:45.560 guys and then they lose interest over time.

01:57:49.080 So you've DMed guys.

01:57:50.080 Yeah.

01:57:50.420 And they just ghost.

01:57:53.180 Here, let's, uh, role play.

01:57:55.660 Pretend you're sliding into my DMs.

01:57:57.180 Go ahead.

01:57:59.720 Um, I don't know.

01:58:01.740 Hey cutie.

01:58:02.920 Is that, that's your go-to?

01:58:04.380 Yeah, I guess.

01:58:05.820 Winky face.

01:58:06.580 Uh, I'd be like, uh.

01:58:08.680 I should give her some material, Brian.

01:58:11.040 Not your turn.

01:58:12.220 Um, so just, Hey cutie.

01:58:15.540 That's your go-to.

01:58:16.600 How many times have you sent that out?

01:58:17.860 I'm just curious.

01:58:18.800 I'm just at the top of my head.

01:58:20.720 I don't, I don't know.

01:58:22.600 Just, just curious.

01:58:23.200 I'll do the role play, but just curious.

01:58:24.640 Or.

01:58:25.100 Are you sending this, like, who are you sliding into the DMs of?

01:58:28.780 Like just random.

01:58:30.200 From Hinge or.

01:58:31.740 Oh, from Hinge.

01:58:32.540 Yeah. 1.00

01:58:33.620 Oh, damn. 1.00

01:58:34.680 That's, that's extra. 1.00

01:58:36.440 And they talk for a bit and then they just.

01:58:38.720 Like, so you'll, would you say I saw you on Hinge?

01:58:41.360 Yeah.

01:58:42.740 Okay.

01:58:43.140 Um, okay.

01:58:44.480 So the context there is, it's not like you're sliding.

01:58:47.000 Have you slid into the DMs of, like, someone famous or something?

01:58:51.720 They've been in my DMs, but no, I don't.

01:58:54.760 Famous guys have DMed you?

01:58:56.380 Yeah, but I don't like famous.

01:58:57.940 But what, what kind of musicians?

01:59:00.160 Like actors.

01:59:02.080 What's, can you say?

01:59:03.220 Are you down to say?

01:59:04.000 No.

01:59:04.960 Did you flirt with them or have any back and forth or anything?

01:59:08.300 I just, that's, I don't want somebody with that type of platform.

01:59:14.100 I like.

01:59:14.260 I mean, aren't you a content creator or streamer?

01:59:17.400 I mean, not, you know, straight up actor.

01:59:22.560 Famous?

01:59:23.060 Like A-list actor?

01:59:24.460 No.

01:59:25.400 Like.

01:59:25.440 B, D, C?

01:59:26.300 Something you would see on a TV show. 1.00

01:59:29.280 Like Hallmark movie type shit? 1.00

01:59:30.780 No. 1.00

01:59:31.400 Just a TV show. 0.96

01:59:33.160 Like a good TV show or like a shitty TV show? 0.93

01:59:35.680 Like good. 1.00

01:59:36.240 Like this shit's going to get canceled next season. 1.00

01:59:38.400 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:59:39.420 Okay.

01:59:41.500 Okay, so you don't want to date somebody in the entertainment industry?

01:59:45.760 Not right now, no.

01:59:47.040 Okay, so.

01:59:48.040 Oh, interesting.

01:59:53.440 So you don't really approach men then?

01:59:55.500 In your TikTok, you say you do though, kind of.

01:59:58.280 Kind of.

01:59:58.920 And you also say like you struggle with dating, yet these super successful, I assume attractive

02:00:06.220 men have slid into your DMs, but you reject them.

02:00:11.920 More so, it just doesn't work out.

02:00:14.000 Like I just don't.

02:00:14.480 What do you mean?

02:00:14.540 You said you reject them.

02:00:16.300 I reject them.

02:00:17.580 Didn't you say that the guys who, these famous guys or whatever who DM you, you reject them?

02:00:22.400 Um, well, there was one that was just inappropriate, so.

02:00:29.360 Okay.

02:00:29.700 I'm not into that.

02:00:31.100 Sure.

02:00:31.280 I didn't like that, so I ghosted him because I'm not dirty.

02:00:35.740 The other one, um, he ghosted, and I think it's just because we didn't get along.

02:00:41.980 Like we just weren't vibing.

02:00:43.620 Mm-hmm.

02:00:43.940 Um, so yeah, I see why he ghosted, and there was another one that ghosted, same situation.

02:00:55.080 We just weren't matching well.

02:00:59.160 I'm going to read this really quick.

02:01:00.480 Honestly, different make style many men would be in to you, Imo.

02:01:03.960 At what point do you tell them your switch is the real question?

02:01:07.060 If early on seems like it will make them leave, how do you do that?

02:01:10.460 Well, she's not trans. 0.95

02:01:11.860 I'm not trans. 0.91

02:01:12.700 Right?

02:01:12.940 No.

02:01:13.300 Like, you're born female. 0.98

02:01:15.080 I can give birth.

02:01:16.200 I just got off my cycle.

02:01:18.800 I'm not sure I can say that.

02:01:20.660 Like your period?

02:01:21.580 Yeah.

02:01:22.120 Oh, yeah.

02:01:22.460 You can talk about that if you want, I guess.

02:01:24.060 Yeah, I just got off my period.

02:01:26.100 I'm female.

02:01:26.820 Okay.

02:01:27.700 Thank you for sharing.

02:01:29.140 Any other girls want to share your current status? 1.00

02:01:32.540 I'm like, I have like the same luck, I feel like, as you.

02:01:36.180 I mean, maybe.

02:01:36.960 Bro, you just smashed like two dudes in like a week ago.

02:01:39.060 Yeah, but.

02:01:39.960 What are you talking about?

02:01:40.700 Well, that was like me being impulsive and not calculated and like trying to, you know,

02:01:48.100 really pin them down.

02:01:50.800 Wait, wait, wait.

02:01:51.160 When you say calculated, what do you mean?

02:01:52.740 Well, it was like, it was impulsive.

02:01:56.180 I was like, I want to go do something.

02:01:59.560 I'm feeling very confident right now.

02:02:02.680 You were ovulating, probably.

02:02:04.980 I might have been.

02:02:05.580 We get so crazy.

02:02:07.000 An ovulating female is not her normal self. 1.00

02:02:12.880 Can we show?

02:02:13.640 You got to show, Andrew.

02:02:14.260 I'm just saying, it's a thing.

02:02:17.120 I also feel like in this day and age, I think men, more like, I feel like men want us to

02:02:23.060 start chasing them.

02:02:24.240 I guess because they're tired of being constantly rejected.

02:02:26.820 I think they want a sabbatical from their traditional, like, hunter role.

02:02:31.140 That's what I'm thinking, too.

02:02:32.580 Like, and I think there's like these almost alpha females rising up in the culture to be 1.00

02:02:38.520 like, sure, I'll hunt you.

02:02:40.000 Because I kind of do have the same problem, too.

02:02:41.880 I'm kind of a hunter.

02:02:43.560 No, no, no, no.

02:02:44.400 Stop, stop, stop.

02:02:45.540 Go ahead.

02:02:46.340 I kind of do have the same problem, too, especially the height seems a little intimidating to me.

02:02:50.380 How tall are you?

02:02:51.240 I'm 6'5", 6'4", 6'5". 0.54

02:02:53.360 Wait, really?

02:02:53.900 Yeah.

02:02:55.660 Can you stand up real quick?

02:02:57.140 Yeah. 1.00

02:03:01.220 Damn. 1.00

02:03:01.740 Get it, girl. 1.00

02:03:02.580 Get it, girl.

02:03:03.460 NBA.

02:03:04.140 You need a basketball.

02:03:05.240 Maybe you need a basketball guy.

02:03:05.800 For context, why don't we send it to her?

02:03:07.020 I'm 5'9".

02:03:07.960 No?

02:03:08.460 Morgan, how tall are you?

02:03:10.300 Okay, let's do that.

02:03:11.260 Okay, let's do that.

02:03:12.400 Why don't you both stand up?

02:03:14.560 Well, the real Slim Shady, please stand up.

02:03:17.420 Okay, so 6'5".

02:03:18.760 All right, there you go.

02:03:21.940 Okay, that could be a little tough.

02:03:23.420 But wait, didn't you want a house husband? 0.94

02:03:25.780 So you're fine with the roles being switched?

02:03:28.160 I'm perfectly fine with the roles being switched.

02:03:30.720 Oh, sorry.

02:03:31.400 I'm perfectly fine with the roles being switched.

02:03:33.360 Unfortunately, I'm still trying to muster up the courage to start approaching men and talking to them.

02:03:40.200 Because you are kind of right.

02:03:41.100 The little look and stares that we think is our form of flirting, or at least I do.

02:03:45.660 Yeah.

02:03:46.480 So have you approached a guy in the club?

02:03:50.580 No.

02:03:51.520 Not the way you're describing it.

02:03:53.680 Oh, bro.

02:03:54.120 I think I have the opposite problem.

02:03:56.540 I'm so masculine when it comes to love.

02:03:58.980 I like chasing, and I like initiating, and I guess guys just don't like that.

02:04:10.320 Well, I've got to ask you.

02:04:13.180 So you said earlier, I was kind of taking notes as you were going, that you thought that some of this had to do with the detransition.

02:04:21.700 Yeah.

02:04:22.060 But I wanted to make sure that I got some of the numbers straight here.

02:04:24.520 If I remember earlier in the conversation, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, you said that you didn't actually begin the transition until you were 18, right?

02:04:33.040 Yeah.

02:04:33.760 Around my 18th birthday.

02:04:35.920 Yeah.

02:04:36.140 And you're only 24.

02:04:37.400 Is that correct?

02:04:38.120 Yeah.

02:04:39.240 Okay.

02:04:39.640 And you only took hormones, right?

02:04:41.480 Yes.

02:04:42.280 No, sir.

02:04:42.760 Okay.

02:04:43.400 And for how long did that occur?

02:04:46.680 About three years.

02:04:48.720 Three years.

02:04:49.360 Okay.

02:04:50.020 So from 18 to roughly 22?

02:04:53.680 20.

02:04:54.520 So two years.

02:04:58.580 Two years.

02:04:59.480 No, three.

02:05:00.400 I was turning 21, so.

02:05:03.740 Okay.

02:05:04.460 Gotcha.

02:05:05.020 And you had just turned 18.

02:05:06.260 Yeah.

02:05:07.640 Okay.

02:05:08.380 I see.

02:05:09.480 And so why do you, but why do you think it's the detransition?

02:05:13.360 Like, I don't even think anybody would ever know that unless you told them, right?

02:05:16.360 No, it has nothing to do with, like, the health issues or, like, the voice.

02:05:25.080 I think it has to do socially.

02:05:28.320 Like, when I was detransitioning, my mom and sister were catching me up on little things like, don't do your mascara in the car.

02:05:36.960 And I didn't have that.

02:05:40.420 But I don't understand.

02:05:42.500 And I'm basically a teenage girl right now.

02:05:45.300 I don't understand boys.

02:05:46.880 What?

02:05:47.500 I don't understand.

02:05:49.100 I mean, you remained in the gender role of a woman until you were 17 years old. 1.00

02:05:56.060 I mean, it's not like the social cues weren't there for you to see for those 17 years, right?

02:06:03.880 No.

02:06:04.680 So socially, I transitioned when I was 11.

02:06:08.180 And then I took hormones at 18.

02:06:10.360 So socially, I was that way since I was 11.

02:06:14.560 Okay.

02:06:14.780 So you lived as a boy since you were 11?

02:06:17.660 Yeah.

02:06:18.920 Okay.

02:06:19.680 Okay.

02:06:20.060 Now that makes more sense.

02:06:21.300 Boy.

02:06:21.900 You can't be a boy as a female. 1.00

02:06:23.980 I understand.

02:06:24.980 I'm just using the language of the left.

02:06:28.340 So when we're talking about the idea of the construct of gender or whatever, you lived to your gender as a boy, right?

02:06:35.900 Yeah.

02:06:36.980 Okay.

02:06:38.100 From age 11 until age 18, well, actually until age 21 almost?

02:06:44.940 Or 21, right?

02:06:45.360 Almost 21, yeah.

02:06:47.060 Okay.

02:06:47.940 Gotcha.

02:06:48.700 Okay.

02:06:48.900 Well, that's a whole different story.

02:06:50.340 So was that reinforced by your parents or?

02:06:53.860 No.

02:06:54.460 No, not at all.

02:06:55.820 I think it was my social setting that groomed me into that.

02:07:02.060 Your parents didn't like it?

02:07:04.200 No.

02:07:05.440 But, I mean, they couldn't fight me on it because they were guilted by a psychologist and socially.

02:07:14.480 I see.

02:07:17.220 Okay.

02:07:18.780 So, essentially, right now you're trying to, so, I mean, I don't understand.

02:07:23.440 What was, when you were in high school then, were you trying to have a boy experience or were you still treated like a girl in high school?

02:07:29.880 Um, I was treated like a boy because it was a very liberal school.

02:07:34.840 It was an art school.

02:07:36.700 Okay.

02:07:36.960 So, I didn't really hang around the girls.

02:07:40.520 I just, I don't get it.

02:07:42.560 I still don't have girlfriends.

02:07:47.860 Well, I mean, neither do most women, so don't feel bad about that. 0.97

02:07:51.240 Yeah.

02:07:53.800 Maureen, can you read that on screen?

02:07:55.140 Yeah.

02:07:56.320 Girl in blue, sorry transitioning that young. 1.00

02:07:59.840 I have to ask, do you think you were mature enough to transition?

02:08:03.340 Desiree, reading your book, should read traditional woman Jen Harrison. 0.97

02:08:10.740 Wait, did it say?

02:08:12.360 Yes.

02:08:13.500 If I was mature enough?

02:08:14.980 Yeah, do you think you were mature enough?

02:08:16.340 No, not at all.

02:08:17.800 I was a kid.

02:08:18.920 You're still a kid at 18.

02:08:20.600 You're still a kid at 17.

02:08:25.140 Um, no.

02:08:27.900 I was completely neglected medically.

02:08:31.060 I did not have dysphoria.

02:08:33.540 I had body dysmorphia.

02:08:35.580 I was bullied by girls about my body, um, how I looked.

02:08:43.360 Eating disorder?

02:08:44.900 Uh, yeah, I had a binge eating disorder.

02:08:48.020 Yeah.

02:08:49.620 All right.

02:08:50.600 Uh, Hilary Epstein, thank you.

02:08:52.080 And then this one must have came in, but the audio was muted.

02:08:54.460 So I'll just let it come through.

02:08:56.220 Graffito tagged, donated $200.

02:08:59.480 Hey guys, here's $200 to let you know Andrew is over on his stream trying to talk to you,

02:09:05.860 but apparently you've muted him.

02:09:07.780 Yeah, the audio.

02:09:08.200 Double check that ish.

02:09:10.340 Yeah, we're, a couple hangups.

02:09:12.800 The audio got muted.

02:09:14.260 Um, wait, let me check that really quick.

02:09:17.320 Uh, I'm going to have to fix that too.

02:09:19.400 Okay.

02:09:19.640 Um, so, let me see where we were here.

02:09:24.740 Can you pull back up the window tab with the TikTok?

02:09:27.920 Yeah.

02:09:31.940 Okay.

02:09:32.760 Actually, just put in the, uh, let's do window tab.

02:09:35.880 Uh, okay.

02:09:39.220 Uh, so, women approaching men first is a 99% success rate.

02:09:43.480 So why do we keep getting rejected?

02:09:45.020 He goes, but you're not approaching.

02:09:46.880 So, okay, we've established this.

02:09:48.600 You're not approaching.

02:09:49.140 Sliding into the DMs is not approaching.

02:09:51.520 Nah, not really.

02:09:52.900 Not really.

02:09:54.360 I mean, it's initiating.

02:09:57.520 Yeah.

02:09:57.860 It's not approaching though.

02:10:00.160 Um, but you said you would try to like go to the club and just like be standing there

02:10:06.040 like looking at the dude or?

02:10:07.760 I did approach a guy actually in Europe, but I guess he had a girlfriend.

02:10:13.500 I don't know.

02:10:14.380 I mean.

02:10:15.940 No, I mean, he didn't tell me he did.

02:10:18.920 Just gave me his Instagram.

02:10:21.220 Acted like he was single, but he wasn't.

02:10:25.140 Right.

02:10:25.680 So.

02:10:26.000 Um, have any of the men told you why, uh, when it comes to like the rejection and ghosting?

02:10:32.600 Um, no, my first date that I ever had, well, I kind of have an answer to it.

02:10:38.960 He came across as a guy that was traditional looking for a girlfriend, wanting to take me

02:10:45.000 out on three dates.

02:10:47.120 And I got the impression that that's where it was going.

02:10:51.200 And once he slept with me, he ghosted and I didn't understand why, uh, for the past two

02:11:01.400 years, I thought that there was something wrong with me.

02:11:05.240 Um, I thought that he was just on an endless search for the perfect girlfriend, but he just

02:11:11.260 told me that he wasn't ready for a relationship just out of the blue.

02:11:16.780 Wait, let me look at the timeline here.

02:11:18.360 So this is the guy who you dated right after the breakup of your two year relationship.

02:11:22.460 And you said you went on two dates with him.

02:11:25.200 Okay.

02:11:25.760 And then two dates and then you hook up on the, have sex on the second date. 0.69

02:11:30.440 Yes. 0.78

02:11:31.140 Okay.

02:11:31.440 And then that was no explanation up until now.

02:11:39.500 Oh, wait, you're still in touch with him.

02:11:42.480 Not in touch, but wait, but this was two years ago.

02:11:46.240 I guess technically.

02:11:47.120 What do you mean?

02:11:47.480 No explanation until now.

02:11:50.540 I don't know why he just decided to reach out to me.

02:11:54.660 He wanted something casual and I told him that I didn't mean to give him that impression

02:12:02.560 because I actually liked him.

02:12:04.340 And honestly, I didn't get that impression.

02:12:06.580 If that's what he wanted, I wouldn't have slept with him.

02:12:10.380 I got the impression that he was taking me seriously, that he actually liked me, that he

02:12:14.320 was a traditional man.

02:12:15.620 Um, so he just hit me up for something casual and that's when I realized, yeah, literally

02:12:25.960 And that's, sorry, that's when you realized that I was just used.

02:12:30.260 He didn't communicate to me that I guess he was using me.

02:12:34.900 I wouldn't have slept with him.

02:12:37.980 So did you have an overt conversation about expectations?

02:12:43.120 Um, originally.

02:12:44.160 Somewhat, yeah, he came across that way.

02:12:47.300 He was like, you know, oh, um, I forgot.

02:12:52.180 It's something about, I can introduce you to my guy friends as my girlfriend that, like

02:13:01.140 little things like that, that would indicate and talking about taking me on three, taking

02:13:08.300 me out on three dates, making me his girlfriend.

02:13:10.660 And he just comes off as a traditional guy on his Hinged profile.

02:13:18.360 Right.

02:13:18.960 So, so of course, it's the impression I got.

02:13:24.080 Okay.

02:13:24.900 Um, and so would this have been better or worse if you guys had dated for three months and

02:13:31.200 then he broke up with you?

02:13:33.060 Broke up with you.

02:13:35.000 Which would you prefer?

02:13:37.100 Worse if what?

02:13:38.260 If we dated for three.

02:13:39.980 For longer.

02:13:40.560 And then he ended up.

02:13:41.160 Yeah.

02:13:41.720 Well, I mean, so at what point, like, do you think he was in the wrong for what he did?

02:13:46.920 Um.

02:13:48.240 For not wanting to keep seeing you?

02:13:49.720 I don't personally, no, not, I think the miscommunication is wrong.

02:13:55.620 Like you should have told me.

02:13:57.020 Oh.

02:13:57.560 I want something casual, not give the impression that you're taking me out on a date to get

02:14:03.620 to know me because you want a girlfriend.

02:14:06.220 So he did say that?

02:14:09.020 Yeah.

02:14:09.500 Yeah, somewhat indicated on his profile, would say little things like that throughout the

02:14:14.620 date.

02:14:15.240 Wait, he said it on his profile or he said it to you?

02:14:18.940 His profile gives off that impression, yeah.

02:14:21.500 You know how on Hinge it's like looking for long-term?

02:14:22.900 I need you to try to be a little more like.

02:14:25.000 It's been so long.

02:14:26.080 It's like, you know, on Hinge it's like looking for long-term relationships.

02:14:29.960 But do you see how things are starting to shift here?

02:14:32.300 So initially you said he told you these things, but now it's.

02:14:36.200 He had on his, he said on his dating app.

02:14:41.260 So on a dating app, you can say, I'm looking for this.

02:14:43.760 And you could say, I'm looking for short-term, I'm looking for long-term.

02:14:46.660 Some people put both.

02:14:48.100 Yeah.

02:14:48.660 It would, it said long-term.

02:14:50.220 It said long-term.

02:14:51.020 From what I remember, yes.

02:14:51.500 Right.

02:14:51.840 Well, does that bind him to date you in perpetuity?

02:14:55.320 If he goes on one day with you or sleeps with you, is he bound to continue seeing you?

02:14:59.380 No, no, of course not.

02:15:00.580 I just didn't like the miscommunication because I wouldn't have gone out with someone if they

02:15:05.840 were just looking for something casual.

02:15:08.580 Well, I don't know if there's actually any sort of contradiction here in terms.

02:15:12.560 So perhaps on his dating profile, it said looking for long-term, but he has no qualms

02:15:20.200 with sleeping with someone early on.

02:15:23.640 And could there have been, is there anything that you could have done to contribute to him

02:15:29.800 not wanting to see you again?

02:15:33.080 No, personally, I enjoyed the date, I guess.

02:15:37.280 Were there any sexual hangups that occurred or anything?

02:15:40.600 What do you mean?

02:15:42.280 Well, for example, if I otherwise really liked a girl and she started crying during sex,

02:15:51.660 even if I was previously inclined to have a long-term relationship with her, like I would

02:15:56.960 have alarm bells going off in my head, like, yeah, there's something wrong here.

02:16:01.820 No.

02:16:02.180 I don't feel comfortable anymore.

02:16:04.460 So did something occur during, after?

02:16:10.340 No.

02:16:11.000 I guess he just confirmed to me that it was casual the whole time and it kind of broke my

02:16:15.440 heart because that's not how I saw it.

02:16:18.180 Wait, it broke your heart?

02:16:19.700 Were you in love?

02:16:20.280 It hurt, no.

02:16:22.420 It just hurt.

02:16:23.640 Like, I don't want to be used.

02:16:25.840 And the fact that I had just gotten out of a relationship and, you know, that the intimacy

02:16:34.140 in that was not necessarily romantic, it just, it felt bad to hear that his intentions weren't

02:16:44.280 what I thought.

02:16:46.980 Well, I don't know all the details of it.

02:16:48.720 But perhaps you were misled.

02:16:53.760 As for your comments about, like, it's social taboo to, like, flirt or hit on a guy, I actually

02:17:00.540 don't think it's the case at all.

02:17:01.740 I think most men would actually invite, look, we don't want you to, like, come up to us 0.99

02:17:07.560 and be like, want to fuck. 1.00

02:17:08.820 Oh, no. 1.00

02:17:09.360 Although I suppose some men would be okay. 0.57

02:17:11.040 I personally would find out that a little bit too much.

02:17:14.140 But, like, you can be taking the initiative and still do so in a fairly feminine way that's 1.00

02:17:22.280 not going to be off-putting to a man.

02:17:24.460 And so, me personally, like, if a girl, like, slides into my DMs and is direct in the sense

02:17:31.380 that, because some girls will, like, slide into the DMs and be, like, ask me, oh, like, 1.00

02:17:35.580 can I be on the show?

02:17:37.340 But then they're, like, trying to actually, oh, actually, I don't want to be on the show.

02:17:41.560 I just want to, like, meet you or whatever.

02:17:45.140 Like, it's just, like, you can just be like, hey, I'm interested.

02:17:48.360 Like, at least for me, I have no objections to a girl.

02:17:52.660 I think physically I'm very bold.

02:17:55.600 And I might come across as that I don't want something genuine.

02:18:02.180 You know, I guess it could come off as desperate or sexual.

02:18:06.520 Or overly confident.

02:18:07.980 I get a lot of times that they almost think that we're, like, trolling them or, like, we're

02:18:15.000 not that serious.

02:18:15.600 Or they, like, you just want to hook up.

02:18:18.020 Yeah, something like that.

02:18:19.160 Yeah.

02:18:19.420 Those aren't my intentions.

02:18:20.580 I'm just very romantic and bold.

02:18:25.880 And I like to initiate.

02:18:27.280 And if I come across that way and they don't like it, I guess I don't like that I have to

02:18:36.120 be sitting there hoping that he's going to kiss me, hoping that he'll hold my hand, hoping

02:18:40.860 that he'll initiate something.

02:18:43.720 I'm just not like that.

02:18:45.440 But it could come across as wrong.

02:18:47.420 And I hate it because I don't just want to sit there and hope that he does something.

02:18:51.040 Well, with this guy, did you initiate the first kiss?

02:18:56.640 I don't remember.

02:18:59.420 I guess, yeah, I leaned in and he followed, yeah.

02:19:04.720 The most recent, I initiated it.

02:19:07.440 But, yeah, and then following that, I initiated everything with both.

02:19:11.840 Are guys just, like, actually, I want to open up to the whole panel, those of you who've

02:19:15.320 had some recent dating experience, are guys, like, scared to make the first move?

02:19:19.760 Yeah.

02:19:19.900 Like, what's going on?

02:19:20.500 Is that?

02:19:21.640 Yes.

02:19:22.220 I believe they are, especially as a generation.

02:19:25.120 And when I say first move, like, going in for the kiss or moving things forward sexually?

02:19:29.040 Yes.

02:19:29.560 And maybe it's because of the whole, like, Me Too movement or, I don't know.

02:19:34.140 I think gender roles are really starting to switch and change up, especially since sexual, 0.99

02:19:38.080 you know, sexuality and gender is very fluid now.

02:19:41.240 Right.

02:19:42.940 Morgan?

02:19:43.820 What?

02:19:44.200 Any experience on that?

02:19:45.240 Like, guys, are they scared to go for the first kiss?

02:19:47.720 I don't think really scared, no.

02:19:49.100 I don't.

02:19:49.540 I'm not scared.

02:19:50.260 I never had to.

02:19:51.400 No issue with that?

02:19:52.840 Any issues?

02:19:53.380 No.

02:19:53.920 I'm not making the first move, but if I am, like, kind of, like, bold and I'm, like,

02:19:58.920 trying to push things forward, I feel like it's not really well received.

02:20:04.220 It's kind of, like, off-putting to them.

02:20:05.940 And they're, like, oh.

02:20:07.140 Well, could they just, like, are they just not into you at all?

02:20:12.180 That's possible.

02:20:13.480 Well, hold on.

02:20:14.500 These are two different things.

02:20:15.720 Graffito tags.

02:20:16.360 A lot of guys who are normally monogamous may take advantage of a girl who naively puts 1.00

02:20:20.920 too much trust in him and has sex too early.

02:20:23.260 They'll rationalize that for once they get to be the blank.

02:20:27.500 What is that?

02:20:28.460 I'm going to salute, I'm assuming.

02:20:31.020 Yes.

02:20:31.680 Sloot.

02:20:32.660 Shaking my head.

02:20:33.860 Yo, Graffito tag.

02:20:34.960 Thank you for the TTS.

02:20:36.880 Really appreciate it, man.

02:20:37.580 Thank you.

02:20:38.160 I have no problem with initiating.

02:20:40.640 That's what I prefer.

02:20:43.420 I am also feminine, and I do like them to initiate, but I'm just, I'm very romantic.

02:20:51.700 I like to be bold, and like you said, it's just not received well.

02:20:56.100 Right.

02:20:56.580 Well, so, but, I mean, so you're saying you have gone in, but, like, do they actually

02:21:02.080 kiss you, or is it like, no, no, no?

02:21:04.280 Oh, well, I don't, no, I don't, I'm not physically initiating.

02:21:07.800 I'm like, like, if I am like, really, like, I have a tendency, I guess, to be a little too

02:21:14.920 communicate, like, I will kind of get obsessed with people, so I text too much, I feel like,

02:21:24.700 and I feel like I'm...

02:21:25.460 Text too early?

02:21:26.780 Yeah.

02:21:27.140 You have to text after one hour, or they'll be freaked out.

02:21:30.280 I expect...

02:21:30.300 I like when a girl simps, to be honest. 1.00

02:21:31.740 Yeah, I'm like that.

02:21:33.040 I'm like, I will just get really obsessed with people.

02:21:36.740 Wait, hold on, but hold on.

02:21:38.360 Okay, so we were talking about, like, going in for the kiss.

02:21:40.880 No, not, not like that.

02:21:42.060 Well, that's what we were talking about.

02:21:43.440 Well, I thought, I was just talking about, I'm bold, like...

02:21:46.260 Okay, how are you bold?

02:21:47.200 Tell us how you're bold.

02:21:48.020 Well, I, I kind of, I was, like, pursuing a guy for a really long time.

02:21:53.760 It was, like, the first guy I ever, like, tried to pursue.

02:21:56.960 I had never been in a relationship, and I, like, kept, like, he was just talking to me

02:22:01.940 because he probably enjoyed, like, the attention, but he did not want, like, anything to do with me.

02:22:08.100 Like, he didn't want to date me.

02:22:11.080 He was, like, he was, he would be, like, talking to me and stuff, but, like, he made it clear

02:22:16.920 he didn't want to date me, but I just, like, kept, like, well, I kept, like, talking to him

02:22:22.300 as, like, a, like, you know, sending him reels or whatever, and he would talk back,

02:22:26.060 and because I, like, was hoping, I got, like, friend-zoned, basically.

02:22:30.340 So, when you say that you're, like, too much.

02:22:36.000 Oh, well, also, on, also, like, if I, when I first meet a guy, I feel like I talk a lot,

02:22:42.300 and I'm kind of opinionated.

02:22:44.700 It's probably that, like, very opinionated, I feel like.

02:22:48.300 Hold on.

02:22:48.820 So, you said that, like, you put, like, you, you do too much.

02:22:54.200 Yeah, I feel like I am too passionate.

02:22:56.660 So, you said this guy friend-zoned you.

02:22:58.940 So, you shot your shot?

02:23:01.340 Yeah.

02:23:01.880 How did you do it?

02:23:03.320 I said, like, I DM'd him.

02:23:06.060 He was, like, in my history class, and I DM'd him, like, pretty early on in the school year.

02:23:12.600 I didn't know anyone.

02:23:13.920 Okay.

02:23:14.760 And just, like, I think I.

02:23:18.780 What did you say?

02:23:23.020 I don't think I was very subtle.

02:23:24.940 I mean, I definitely, like, told him straight up.

02:23:27.140 I can't remember what I said, but it was, like, I maybe said, like, you're cute or something.

02:23:34.220 Okay.

02:23:34.600 Or maybe I, like, directly, like, asked him to, like, hang out.

02:23:39.020 And what did he say?

02:23:40.520 He said he's not, like, dating, dating.

02:23:45.960 And then he got a girlfriend, like, later.

02:23:48.780 Okay.

02:23:49.380 On in the year, but.

02:23:50.300 Can I say something?

02:23:51.260 Like, I think that this is the thing with men.

02:23:53.320 It's like, if they like you, they say yes.

02:23:55.420 If they don't, they say no.

02:23:56.800 Yeah.

02:23:57.020 Whatever the reason is, there is no reason.

02:23:59.200 I think they try to be polite, maybe, about it.

02:24:01.340 Like, if I have to say no, I say, oh, no, I'm not in this situation.

02:24:06.940 But if I meet someone that I like, I go on and, like, I think it's just normal.

02:24:13.540 I don't know.

02:24:13.960 Yeah.

02:24:14.560 I feel like in today's atmosphere, to answer your question, Brian, are guys just taking

02:24:19.740 a step back, et cetera?

02:24:20.920 In that regard, I feel like it has a lot to do with the atmosphere surrounding feminism 0.93

02:24:26.420 and where it's gone over the last 50 years, how women are stepping up and they want, you 1.00

02:24:31.940 know, like I said before, taking on more of those masculine roles.

02:24:34.660 Men are taking a step back and women are stepping up.

02:24:38.980 And also, it has to do with the mixed signals females are getting. 1.00

02:24:45.360 Is Andrew mute?

02:24:46.380 Andrew, are you muted?

02:24:48.100 Can you talk?

02:24:48.980 No.

02:24:49.520 Yeah, I'm good.

02:24:50.360 Oh, okay.

02:24:50.800 For some people are telling me you were muted, but.

02:24:52.800 I was.

02:24:53.280 I was earlier in the show.

02:24:54.280 Oh, okay.

02:24:54.840 Yeah, I'm not sure what happened there.

02:25:00.140 Oh, so, okay.

02:25:01.060 Going back to you, Jade, you said, remembering the time I went viral for getting done so horrendously

02:25:08.040 bad.

02:25:08.420 Maybe this is.

02:25:08.960 Yeah, that was the story, yeah.

02:25:10.960 It went viral.

02:25:11.420 Which guy is this about?

02:25:13.100 My ex-boyfriend, so.

02:25:15.560 Oh, the homeless guy who, 15K.

02:25:17.940 Okay, we talked about that.

02:25:18.920 I had to delete it because of the girl's privacy, but it was a video of me catching him cheating.

02:25:28.240 So I found her profile, and I just filmed myself, and I think the caption was, like, just found

02:25:36.340 out my ex was living a double life, and I have his name tatted on me, and it just blew

02:25:41.940 up.

02:25:42.280 You have...

02:25:43.280 Yeah.

02:25:44.160 Wait, hold on.

02:25:44.960 This is new.

02:25:46.960 You have...

02:25:48.100 Yeah.

02:25:49.200 ...his name tatted on you.

02:25:50.820 Where?

02:25:52.100 On my arm.

02:25:53.220 Can you show it to the camera?

02:25:54.480 What's the name?

02:25:59.280 What name is that?

02:26:00.560 Malachi.

02:26:02.340 Hold on.

02:26:03.240 Just to be clear.

02:26:05.520 Just Malachi? 0.99

02:26:07.760 Did he hang out in cornfields, by chance?

02:26:11.000 He was actually named Malachi because of...

02:26:13.460 Bro, you gave 15K to an Amish guy, bro?

02:26:14.880 What?

02:26:15.320 He was actually named Malachi because of Children of the Corn, because he looks like him.

02:26:19.820 That's what I was referencing, was Children of the Corn, Brian.

02:26:22.200 That's actually why he was named that.

02:26:24.180 You should just put, like, a corn stalk by it.

02:26:26.540 No, it's getting removed.

02:26:27.920 I need, like, seven more sessions left.

02:26:31.520 But...

02:26:32.120 I mean, was it any solace to you that I think in the movie Malachi dies like a horrible

02:26:36.720 death?

02:26:37.860 I think he gets, like, ripped apart by demons in the movie.

02:26:40.760 So, like, is that any solace to you at all?

02:26:43.120 I mean...

02:26:44.440 It's an omen.

02:26:45.560 Yeah.

02:26:48.080 He already is dealing with the horrible fate, so...

02:26:53.320 How long were you guys dating?

02:26:54.600 A year, did you say?

02:26:55.920 Almost two.

02:26:57.440 How soon, like, in did you get his name tatted?

02:27:01.600 At the end of the first year.

02:27:03.500 Did he get your name?

02:27:07.800 No.

02:27:08.560 He was going to.

02:27:10.200 It was not out of love.

02:27:11.740 It was out of survival.

02:27:13.680 That's why I don't have any shame.

02:27:15.600 And also, it's going to be gone.

02:27:18.120 I'm getting it lasered.

02:27:21.460 But...

02:27:21.700 Malachi.

02:27:22.360 It was not out of love.

02:27:24.320 He was abusive.

02:27:25.400 And I felt like if I didn't do what he said, he would leave or do something terrible.

02:27:30.680 So... 0.99

02:27:31.680 Damn. 1.00

02:27:34.980 Malachi. 1.00

02:27:38.300 So, that's the video that went viral.

02:27:40.580 But it's not...

02:27:41.380 It was on TikTok?

02:27:42.320 Yeah.

02:27:42.800 How many views did it get?

02:27:45.620 About the same as this most recent one.

02:27:48.020 Yeah.

02:27:49.140 Austin, can you pull up...

02:27:50.200 Back up the window tab and the TikToks.

02:27:52.980 There's just a few more.

02:27:54.440 Oh, you got to hide that.

02:27:55.620 Can't show that.

02:27:58.200 There's...

02:27:58.720 Scroll down a little bit.

02:27:59.640 Scroll down if you can.

02:28:01.160 There's another one I wanted to...

02:28:02.980 How much...

02:28:05.020 Yeah, stop there.

02:28:05.820 How much aura did I lose when I bought a bouquet of sunflowers for my ex-boyfriend?

02:28:09.980 Because I used to call him my sunflower.

02:28:12.960 Kind of wholesome.

02:28:13.980 But only to find out that he gave that bouquet to the girl he was cheating with. 0.93

02:28:19.080 Till this day, I have never received flowers from a guy. 0.99

02:28:24.760 Damn. 0.99

02:28:25.240 That's the guy who... 1.00

02:28:30.040 Yeah.

02:28:30.500 The two-year guy?

02:28:31.560 Yeah.

02:28:32.320 Sunflower? 1.00

02:28:33.000 Damn. 0.99

02:28:33.300 She posted a picture of him with the bouquet and she was like, oh, he's so romantic. 1.00

02:28:40.200 Damn. 0.99

02:28:40.960 That's next to her. 1.00

02:28:41.680 Like, 15K, he spent it on this chick. 1.00

02:28:47.360 Got him a flower.

02:28:52.020 Never received flowers to this day.

02:28:55.040 Never?

02:28:55.860 No.

02:28:56.260 But, come on. 0.99

02:28:56.880 I'm sure, like, after a girl posts some shit like that, aren't there going to be a bunch 1.00

02:29:00.060 of, like, simps in the DM, like, oh, I'll get you flowers? 0.97

02:29:02.180 As I said, anime PFPs or guys that live across the world.

02:29:09.860 Do we have more reacts?

02:29:11.240 What's the next tab over?

02:29:12.960 Is it tweets?

02:29:14.280 We got tweets?

02:29:15.180 We have a picture of my husband making his flag on.

02:29:18.100 We're not hanging with it.

02:29:20.120 We'll get to the tweets later then.

02:29:21.400 Yeah, we'll just do that one.

02:29:22.260 Okay, ladies, what do you think about this? 1.00

02:29:23.740 And, Andrew, what do you think about this?

02:29:25.960 So, Morgan, can you read this one?

02:29:28.340 Yeah.

02:29:28.440 Or, actually, Anissa, can you read what this says?

02:29:32.820 My husband is making us fly home from our honeymoon after one day because he found out

02:29:37.820 I sent my ex a simple goodbye text on the morning of our wedding.

02:29:41.900 It was a goodbye text for goodness sake.

02:29:45.500 Not an I will always love you text.

02:29:47.920 Not a drop everything and meet me at the altar text.

02:29:50.620 I need to say goodbye to have closure on the unmarried part of my life. 0.99

02:29:54.560 Please tell me my sensitive, nostalgic girlies understand.

02:29:58.640 And your guys' reaction to that, is that cool for her wedding day, whatever?

02:30:08.600 No.

02:30:09.240 I don't think it was appropriate.

02:30:09.920 Sending a goodbye text to...

02:30:11.300 I think she should have taken care of that, like, the night she got engaged or something. 0.99

02:30:16.020 Not, like...

02:30:16.680 That should have been way before she even got that committed in a relationship. 0.94

02:30:19.840 Yeah.

02:30:20.280 Bad timing.

02:30:21.360 It's very disrespectful.

02:30:22.100 Unbelievable.

02:30:22.920 Distasteful.

02:30:23.360 Very rude.

02:30:25.300 Okay.

02:30:25.580 Next thing.

02:30:28.140 Is the bowling joker to escape girlhood? 0.99

02:30:31.300 Sorry.

02:30:31.600 What is it?

02:30:32.200 Bowling joker to escape girlhood.

02:30:34.200 It's an independent one's form.

02:30:37.640 Bowling...

02:30:38.280 Wait, what?

02:30:40.100 Bowling joker to escape girlhood.

02:30:42.920 Is that article?

02:30:45.320 Oh, the article for Jade?

02:30:46.580 Yeah.

02:30:47.020 Nah, I think.

02:30:47.900 I mean, she kind of already explained, like, all the detransition stuff.

02:30:51.080 So you can exile that one.

02:30:52.540 What's the next one?

02:30:53.080 Tweets.

02:30:53.660 We got some tweets from Jade.

02:30:55.300 Some spicy takes.

02:30:57.660 Every time I hear, boys will be boys, my heart shatters for the little...

02:31:00.280 Actually, Jade, can you read that first one?

02:31:02.140 I'll just have you read it.

02:31:03.220 I think it goes longer than that.

02:31:04.880 Show more.

02:31:06.920 It said...

02:31:07.880 Every time I hear, boys will be boys, my heart shatters for the little girl in me that

02:31:13.020 once believed men were going to be princes when I grew up, every time.

02:31:16.960 It's a short and simple saying, too short, as if there's a deafening silence that finishes

02:31:21.520 a sentence instead of a period.

02:31:23.520 There's an unspoken discussion that should precede it, but there never is.

02:31:26.880 It's dismissive.

02:31:27.760 You can't argue against the phrase once it's spoken.

02:31:30.000 I feel helpless when I hear it.

02:31:31.320 And then, can you go back?

02:31:32.900 Because there's more.

02:31:34.580 Back to...

02:31:35.480 Like, just...

02:31:36.360 Right here?

02:31:36.940 Back.

02:31:37.740 Yeah.

02:31:38.700 And then, scroll down.

02:31:40.500 Yeah.

02:31:41.160 Most people don't tolerate that. 0.99

02:31:42.480 Yeah, actually, everyone does tolerate man whores and men being promiscuous. 1.00

02:31:48.840 So, women grew up believing they would get princes? 0.99

02:31:53.180 I did.

02:31:54.320 You did.

02:31:54.960 But, like, do you think...

02:31:55.940 Because of my dad and how my brothers were raised.

02:31:58.860 Yeah.

02:31:59.460 And I was a sheltered kid.

02:32:01.840 So, it was very shocking to me to see how boys...

02:32:06.120 How they were actually like and not like my dad.

02:32:09.160 But, so, you wrote that August 5th of 2024.

02:32:14.580 Because some people, sometimes we bring up tweets and people be like,

02:32:17.380 well, it was a year ago, two years ago.

02:32:19.120 It doesn't count, whatever.

02:32:20.520 But, like, and I'm not saying this to attack you or insult you.

02:32:24.000 But, like, so, you want guys to be princes.

02:32:27.380 But, like, if you're looking at the value proposition here.

02:32:32.340 So, you willingly were in a relationship with a guy who was a 0.56

02:32:39.140 abusive, you spent $15,000 on him, he was homeless, you still have his name tattooed

02:32:45.600 on you.

02:32:46.600 Yeah.

02:32:48.280 And I'm not saying this to attack you, but, like, looking at all these things from a guy's

02:32:53.740 perspective, it's like, how am I supposed to give a girl the princess treatment? 1.00

02:32:58.060 She's got a tattoo of a dude who treated her like shit on her. 1.00

02:33:03.280 Yeah. 0.99

02:33:03.720 Like, and I'm not saying that to be mean.

02:33:06.080 I'm just saying, like, if, like, I can't give a girl the, first off, I don't do that

02:33:11.160 to begin with.

02:33:11.960 I can't give a girl the princess treatment if she has a mark on her with another man's 1.00

02:33:18.140 name. 1.00

02:33:19.220 Like, and I'm, look, I'm sure the guy was a jerk. 0.99

02:33:22.460 I'm not trying to downplay that. 0.99

02:33:24.600 But it's like, in order for you to receive princess treatment, like, don't you have to

02:33:31.380 be a princess?

02:33:32.300 And I'm, again, I'm not trying to insult you, but it's like looking at it from an outside

02:33:36.260 perspective, it's like, do you, are you a princess?

02:33:40.720 Um, well, I think if you don't love me enough to wait a few months for my tattoo to disappear,

02:33:47.320 then, okay, that's fine, but it's not permanent.

02:33:53.740 And I was so young, I think that because I was so sheltered and didn't realize that's

02:34:01.140 how guys were, that's why I got taken advantage of, because I grew up in that environment where

02:34:07.480 my dad was very respectful.

02:34:09.420 Like, I didn't understand red flags.

02:34:11.380 I didn't understand that guys just weren't kind and that he was taking advantage of me.

02:34:19.680 But when you first met him, did you know he was homeless?

02:34:23.360 Um, I'm assuming.

02:34:25.860 Yeah, I mean, he was working as a truck driver, and that's how he lived.

02:34:30.200 How old was he?

02:34:32.060 27.

02:34:33.080 And how old were you?

02:34:34.260 I was 20.

02:34:36.360 What initially drew you to him?

02:34:37.980 I mean, was he really physically attractive?

02:34:39.560 He was very charismatic and, yes, attractive.

02:34:44.180 Blasted in tattoos?

02:34:45.980 He had some tattoos.

02:34:47.340 Some tattoos.

02:34:49.320 But I don't think my value is diminished by what someone else inflicted on me.

02:34:57.280 I mean, it's in the past.

02:34:58.420 I'm sure we've all had people that have hurt us in some way.

02:35:02.500 I don't think that's a reflection of how I am capable of loving you or, I mean, it was

02:35:09.940 years ago.

02:35:10.660 I'm not the same girl.

02:35:13.200 Well, I mean, I guess my angle here is, like, I, me personally, like, not to say that people

02:35:22.980 can't be redeemed and people, look, people make mistakes.

02:35:25.580 I've made mistakes when it comes to dating, but it does, like, kind of call into, what's

02:35:31.780 that?

02:35:32.060 I don't think I need to redeem myself for being abused, essentially.

02:35:36.480 I mean, this tattoo wasn't, it was survival.

02:35:40.580 It's more like a branding for a slave.

02:35:43.880 If I didn't do it, what would have happened to me?

02:35:47.000 I know my reasoning.

02:35:47.900 Don't you have strong family, male family members?

02:35:51.980 Yes, but it was very, um...

02:35:54.440 Didn't you say you had a bodyguard, too?

02:35:56.820 Or was that more joking?

02:35:57.920 He did not live around me at the time.

02:36:00.780 I did not know him at the time.

02:36:02.760 Wait, when you say you were abused, um, wait, like, the cheating?

02:36:10.600 No, no.

02:36:11.240 Or were there other things?

02:36:12.180 Other things.

02:36:12.560 It's called narcissistic abuse.

02:36:14.060 So they essentially isolate you slowly over time from your social, like...

02:36:19.860 Oh, come on, narcissistic abuse.

02:36:22.640 That's what it's called.

02:36:23.640 And they take you... 1.00

02:36:24.500 This is such fucking bullshit. 1.00

02:36:25.080 They take you systematically through, like, a textbook, um, process of isolating you from 1.00

02:36:31.900 your family, your friends, disorienting you.

02:36:34.460 They do love bombing.

02:36:35.840 Then they slowly taper off their love.

02:36:38.120 And essentially, that's why I'm weird the way I am, because I was raised like that, too.

02:36:42.320 I mean, it was...

02:36:42.960 Yeah, I'm not really sure that you have enough information here to make a diagnosis about

02:36:47.120 narcissistic abuse.

02:36:51.060 To be...

02:36:51.700 I mean, just to be, like, perfectly blunt.

02:36:54.140 There's, uh...

02:36:54.700 I mean, we're still kind of getting through the story, right?

02:36:57.000 But just, like, instantly narcissistic abuse.

02:37:00.120 Does it always...

02:37:01.000 With you, Desiree, does it always revolve around just narcissism?

02:37:03.840 Just any time a bad thing happened to a girl, it's because the guy's a narcissist every single

02:37:08.720 time? 1.00

02:37:09.040 Or could it be that there are some women in this world who just fucking suck? 1.00

02:37:13.640 Could that also be true? 1.00

02:37:16.880 Yeah, I was raised by a few of them.

02:37:19.380 Yeah.

02:37:19.640 But I just...

02:37:24.380 I guess my...

02:37:25.480 I guess going back to the original point is, like, this is a message that you put out

02:37:35.040 on Twitter, like, a couple days ago.

02:37:37.480 Or, well, a month ago, about.

02:37:39.160 Oh, yeah.

02:37:40.360 And, uh...

02:37:42.180 You know, you're talking about...

02:37:44.760 You have this expectation that men are princes.

02:37:49.000 Men should be princes.

02:37:50.660 But it's like...

02:37:52.760 I mean, I didn't...

02:37:54.000 Maybe you were, like, a princess before that happened or whatever.

02:37:57.640 But it's just like...

02:37:59.100 Again, I'm not trying to insult you.

02:38:00.760 But it's like, I meet a girl, and she's got a tattoo of another dude's name.

02:38:07.100 Like, what Disney story is, like, the princess?

02:38:12.120 I mean, I'm not saying I'm expecting that.

02:38:14.740 I just...

02:38:15.120 Isn't that what you're...

02:38:16.220 No, I'm saying that I expected previous to him that that's what I expected.

02:38:22.980 That's how she got in the toxic relationship, because that's what she expected.

02:38:26.220 Can I say something?

02:38:27.400 Wait, no, no, no.

02:38:28.100 Hold on.

02:38:28.420 Okay, actually, I'll just ignore that.

02:38:32.400 Go ahead.

02:38:33.100 So, first of all, I think that you should expect it.

02:38:35.740 Like, you should expect to meet someone that treats you like a princess, whatever happened to you before.

02:38:42.160 Like, no matter.

02:38:43.620 It doesn't matter.

02:38:44.180 Because if you are in a relationship, and you get tricked, like, they... 0.99

02:38:50.300 I don't know, fuck with your head or whatever, and you don't even, like, see what you're doing. 0.99

02:38:54.940 And you feel ashamed of what you did, because maybe you now regret that one. 1.00

02:38:59.920 I don't know.

02:39:00.720 Whatever.

02:39:01.180 It doesn't matter.

02:39:01.960 Like, it happened, and you move on, and then you find your person.

02:39:07.880 Let's say, like, it's not...

02:39:09.820 I don't think it's something that, like, she didn't behave like a princess.

02:39:17.140 It's not that.

02:39:18.120 I don't think it is.

02:39:19.200 Thank you.

02:39:19.980 Well, so are all women deserving of... 1.00

02:39:24.200 Are all women deserving of princess treatment? 1.00

02:39:27.180 No.

02:39:27.520 No.

02:39:27.940 No, I think that you have to find your person, and you have to find someone that treats you well, like you treat him.

02:39:35.700 Yeah, she should be treated well, but, like... 1.00

02:39:38.580 I didn't say I expected...

02:39:39.920 I don't know what you mean about, like, princess.

02:39:42.100 Like, I don't know what you mean, like, what's that.

02:39:44.460 I didn't mean to say that I expected princess treatment at all.

02:39:49.740 I'm just...

02:39:50.560 It was more so me saying, I grew up on Disney movies, and my dad, I can't believe this is how guys are.

02:39:56.740 I didn't say I expected that.

02:39:57.920 They're not all like this.

02:40:00.040 Like, I can swear that.

02:40:02.040 Like, I've never been in a relationship like this.

02:40:04.900 They're not all like this.

02:40:06.580 Wait, how long into the relationship did you...

02:40:09.560 Like, how far into the relationship did you get the...

02:40:11.400 One year.

02:40:12.120 One year.

02:40:12.600 Did the abuse start prior to that?

02:40:15.680 No.

02:40:17.900 Wait, so the relationship was good for a year?

02:40:20.960 No.

02:40:21.700 At that point, that's when it was, like, survival mode.

02:40:25.080 Wait, I'm a little confused here.

02:40:26.420 You said the abuse didn't start until later in the relationship.

02:40:30.980 Yeah, so, like, a few months.

02:40:33.840 And at the year mark, that's when I got it.

02:40:38.080 At that point, it was bad.

02:40:39.660 That was the worst.

02:40:40.700 Wait, the relationship was terrible.

02:40:44.640 And then he... 1.00

02:40:45.820 So he grabbed your arm, walked you into the tattoo shop, and said, get the fucking tattoo. 0.99

02:40:52.580 No, but he was... 0.99

02:40:54.080 How did it go?

02:40:54.720 It was after an argument, and he had been telling me to get it, and...

02:41:04.980 Who started the argument?

02:41:06.780 He was always arguing with me.

02:41:08.800 I don't argue in relationships.

02:41:10.360 I don't yell back.

02:41:11.340 I don't...

02:41:11.820 It was more so him yelling at me, and me just sitting there and taking it.

02:41:16.380 So you said you got the tattoo for survival.

02:41:18.260 Yeah, that was my mentality.

02:41:21.220 So he was threatening to harm you if you did not get the tattoo?

02:41:24.620 It was more so, like, it had gone to the point where anything that I didn't do, it had repercussions.

02:41:30.380 I mean, even if I was not bubbly, if I even showed a single hint of sadness, he would get aggressive.

02:41:38.040 So at that point, it was, like, anything he said, I will do.

02:41:44.680 It was...

02:41:45.560 Because you're constantly walking on eggshells, so you don't really know how they're going to react.

02:41:49.820 You just know they might throw something because I'm not wearing the right dress today or anything, and you can get seriously injured.

02:41:59.600 So it's...

02:42:01.480 That's the best way I can describe it, is you're always in this hypervigilant state of, like, any wrong move.

02:42:07.940 And you're done.

02:42:12.360 So, did he go with you to get the tattoo?

02:42:16.260 No, I went.

02:42:20.880 You were probably trying to get back on his good graces.

02:42:23.560 Yeah, exactly.

02:42:24.100 It was after the worst.

02:42:26.900 You thought you were in love with him?

02:42:28.880 I mean...

02:42:29.760 Yeah.

02:42:32.920 You have to understand, they don't start out this way.

02:42:34.980 They start out, like, love bombing, doing all the right things, saying all the right things, giving attention.

02:42:41.360 And if she was lacking some of those red flag, you know, measures... 0.96

02:42:45.980 Well, look.

02:42:46.780 She wouldn't have known.

02:42:47.420 I will be charitable and say this was her first boyfriend.

02:42:51.200 There was some degree of naivete.

02:42:53.780 But, I mean, the guy was homeless, right?

02:42:57.700 When you met him.

02:42:58.880 Yeah, well...

02:42:59.560 I mean, this is not a...

02:43:01.000 Yeah.

02:43:01.720 This is not living out of his truck.

02:43:02.560 I mean, he was living out of his truck, yeah.

02:43:04.660 But eventually...

02:43:05.960 When you say truck, like, his pickup truck, or he had a...

02:43:09.360 What, an 18...

02:43:09.600 He was a truck driver.

02:43:11.100 Okay.

02:43:12.160 I mean, he made good money, but he didn't have anywhere to stay, so...

02:43:17.440 Did he live with you?

02:43:18.900 No.

02:43:19.800 Did you guys ever live together?

02:43:21.320 No.

02:43:22.600 Okay.

02:43:25.320 If...

02:43:25.840 Would he disagree with everything, like, how you're characterizing all this?

02:43:31.000 Would he disagree, or would he be like... 1.00

02:43:32.280 Or would he say, yeah, I was a piece of shit. 1.00

02:43:34.040 I was abusive. 1.00

02:43:34.380 No, he actually did come back and try to win me over, and...

02:43:38.720 Mm-hmm.

02:43:39.280 We talked about everything that happened, and...

02:43:42.720 He did try to redeem himself, but the second that he got aggressive,

02:43:48.420 I ghosted him, so...

02:43:52.420 Wait, when he tried to come back into the picture?

02:43:55.320 Yeah.

02:43:56.400 Okay.

02:43:57.840 Huh.

02:43:59.520 I see.

02:44:01.520 Huh.

02:44:04.420 Well, let's pull the tweet back up.

02:44:06.300 Can you pull it up?

02:44:06.960 Yeah.

02:44:07.040 Wait.

02:44:13.340 Wait.

02:44:14.880 Men were going to be princes when I grew up.

02:44:17.900 Every time.

02:44:18.960 Yeah.

02:44:21.000 All right, let's do the next tweet.

02:44:24.860 Can you read this one?

02:44:25.880 I was not meant to be born a woman.

02:44:30.080 I'm a giver, not a receiver.

02:44:31.640 I hate my entire anatomy being the receiver.

02:44:34.540 I want the power of deciding when to have children.

02:44:37.160 I want the power of loving like a man.

02:44:38.960 I want the power of picking when to get married. 0.96

02:44:41.480 I hate being a woman. 0.99

02:44:42.700 Forced to wait and hope and dream while men decide when to love. 0.51

02:44:46.660 They decide whether or not they want to be your boyfriend. 0.99

02:44:50.040 While I sit there, shit out of luck, hoping to be noticed. 1.00

02:44:53.440 I hate being a woman. 1.00

02:44:54.260 I was right about wanting to be a boy. 0.98

02:44:56.300 My heart is so masculine.

02:44:57.860 I don't know how it fits into this body.

02:45:08.180 Pull it up one more time.

02:45:09.340 I'm sorry.

02:45:09.860 I got to reference a couple things here.

02:45:11.820 Okay.

02:45:12.320 So just keep it pulled up, actually.

02:45:15.360 So you're a giver.

02:45:17.540 So like you like to peg guys?

02:45:19.120 Is that what you're saying?

02:45:19.760 No, no.

02:45:20.340 Have you pegged a dude?

02:45:21.680 No.

02:45:22.120 Okay, just checking. 0.88

02:45:22.820 You hate your anatomy, entire anatomy being the receiver.

02:45:27.300 Yes. 0.99

02:45:28.060 Wait, so do you have like sexual hangups on this front?

02:45:33.400 No, it's not in that way at all. 0.94

02:45:35.480 Like you don't like sex or?

02:45:37.640 No, no.

02:45:38.420 It's not in a sexual way at all.

02:45:40.140 It's more so relationship dynamics.

02:45:42.500 I totally get what you're saying.

02:45:44.980 And actually that goes along with Carl Jung's theory of he theorized that every female body

02:45:52.440 system had a male soul and vice versa.

02:45:55.580 All right, pull it back up, please.

02:45:58.060 All right.

02:45:59.860 Masculine.

02:46:00.320 You could say masculine and feminine.

02:46:01.720 It's an energy thing.

02:46:03.360 The reason this whole idea of a gendered soul, I think that's what drew me to that.

02:46:13.900 Let me just read these line by line and we'll go through it.

02:46:17.380 You want the power of deciding when to have children.

02:46:22.280 But is it, I mean, so women hold all the power on that front. 1.00

02:46:26.080 So I'm a little confusing.

02:46:26.720 Men give you the children. 0.98

02:46:27.720 What's that?

02:46:28.300 Men give you the children, in my opinion. 0.98

02:46:30.680 Well, I mean, you need a man to have children, but like, you have, okay, as a woman, you 1.00

02:46:39.380 could go out with the intention of getting a sperm donor, like this lady over here, you 1.00

02:46:44.300 could go like on a tear, just to have a bunch of one night stands and get knocked up. 1.00

02:46:48.840 As a man, it's a little more difficult to like, I want to have, like you could tonight

02:46:54.480 or the next month, I don't know. 0.99

02:46:57.260 It depends on your cycle, whatever the fuck you could get pregnant. 1.00

02:47:00.320 This month, if you wanted to, like, do you think as a guy, I could be like, yo, I'm 1.00

02:47:04.880 trying to like, get a bitch pregnant. 1.00

02:47:07.180 That's going to like, have the kid. 1.00

02:47:09.220 Oh, these narcissistic ones will, they'll get you pregnant. 1.00

02:47:11.780 That was probably his next move.

02:47:13.400 Just let her talk, please.

02:47:16.280 So I'm a little confused here.

02:47:17.640 Like women have all the power when it comes to this. 1.00

02:47:20.120 I mean, that was written emotionally.

02:47:22.960 I was just frustrated.

02:47:25.440 All right.

02:47:26.460 The power of love.

02:47:27.300 So what?

02:47:27.620 Okay.

02:47:27.800 Next line.

02:47:28.400 I want the power of loving like a man.

02:47:29.760 What does that mean?

02:47:30.320 Being the initiator.

02:47:33.560 You know, when you go out on dates, it's them who decides, do I want her as my girlfriend?

02:47:39.260 It's not you.

02:47:40.160 Like, do I want to chase her?

02:47:41.240 Do I want to take her out again? 0.98

02:47:43.840 Well, this is kind of a mutual thing, right?

02:47:45.820 Yeah.

02:47:46.880 It can be mutual.

02:47:47.440 Like I've been on plenty of first dates where I wanted to continue seeing the girl and she

02:47:54.920 wasn't feeling it.

02:47:56.220 So it's not like, it's not like this weird thing where like, as a guy, every single girl

02:48:01.600 you go on a first date with, you get to make the determining factor of she's going to be

02:48:06.260 my girlfriend.

02:48:07.300 Yeah.

02:48:07.500 It's situational.

02:48:10.020 Maybe it's a little lack of experience too.

02:48:12.220 If you just, you're, I mean, you're kind of just starting to get out there and date and

02:48:15.340 you had that one bad experience that took up a lot of time.

02:48:18.140 Plus the healing from that.

02:48:19.660 I mean, let's pull it back up.

02:48:21.100 It's like a five year.

02:48:22.780 Hey, woman. 1.00

02:48:23.780 I want the power of picking one and get married.

02:48:25.780 Forced, forced to wait and hope and dream while men decide when to love.

02:48:30.360 So who's forcing you to not approach guys at the club?

02:48:38.440 I guess that goes back to me wanting the chase and being the more dominant one.

02:48:44.400 But you, by your own admission, you don't.

02:48:47.980 How is it not socially acceptable?

02:48:49.920 Apparently.

02:48:50.540 I don't know.

02:48:51.040 I'm just following what it is.

02:48:52.000 She just hasn't been able to find mates. 1.00

02:48:53.980 So she's just assuming that what she's doing isn't working.

02:48:57.160 I'm just following what the woman around me.

02:48:59.500 Do you think if you go to a nightclub and you go up to a guy, if you think if you go

02:49:05.000 out to a nightclub and you go up to a guy who you think is attractive, which you admit

02:49:08.740 to have never done, and you just say, Hey, what's up?

02:49:14.120 Are you single?

02:49:14.780 Blah, blah, blah, whatever.

02:49:15.780 You think that like the lights are going to turn on and the music's going to stop.

02:49:20.420 Everybody's going to do an about look and just be like, Whoa, I can't believe a woman 1.00

02:49:26.760 has dared to approach a man.

02:49:28.660 Like, do you think that's what's going to happen? 0.99

02:49:30.400 Or do you think nobody in the club is going to even notice or give a fuck? 0.98

02:49:34.900 No, nobody in the club is going to care. 0.98

02:49:38.220 So explain to me how it's not socially acceptable.

02:49:41.200 I guess that's just the impression that I've gotten from guys.

02:49:45.680 But you said you like to, you take on a more masculine role and you like to be the initiator.

02:49:50.280 You like to be the chaser, but you don't. 1.00

02:49:52.660 Not the masculine thing is to say, fuck what society tells me. 1.00

02:49:57.760 I'm going to do this shit anyways. 1.00

02:49:59.520 So are you really masculine? 0.99

02:50:01.400 I mean, no, but in some ways, yeah.

02:50:04.120 Like I am the initiator and I do like a chase.

02:50:08.240 In fact, I'd be prepared to say that it's way more, at least now, it's actually way more

02:50:15.040 risky for men to approach women than the reverse. 0.99

02:50:18.100 If I approach some girl in Trader Joe's and I like creep her out or whatever, that's fucking 0.99

02:50:23.480 gnarly. 0.99

02:50:24.320 But if you're some chick and you go up to a dude in Trader Joe's, nobody gives a fuck. 1.00

02:50:29.400 Yeah. 0.99

02:50:29.900 Nobody cares.

02:50:30.600 No, it's not the people around you.

02:50:33.560 It's the guy can come across as desperate.

02:50:37.780 I think when you're really beautiful too, you almost kind of got to downplay your looks

02:50:42.080 because guys aren't used to being approached and then it's a pretty woman doing it. 1.00

02:50:46.840 And then it's a little like, at least I am very forward with guys.

02:50:53.100 Brian knows this.

02:50:53.880 I'm just like, if I want you, I'm going to go tell you I want you.

02:50:56.160 Um, but they almost like have this freeze response, like deer in a headlight, like they

02:51:01.360 don't really know.

02:51:03.000 And then a lot of them like miss, I'm still trying to give them an opportunity to like

02:51:08.220 the number exchange or whatever, but I kind of am as forward as possible.

02:51:15.140 And then they fumble it so many times.

02:51:16.960 So then I'm like, Oh, I don't know if they could handle me.

02:51:19.160 If they're fumbling, like I'm just trying to get your number or I'm trying to tell you,

02:51:25.820 you could have my number if you want it.

02:51:27.440 I like talking to you or whatever, you know, nothing applies to you though. 0.99

02:51:31.120 Cause you're crazy. 1.00

02:51:33.200 Like they just detect you're fucking crazy. 1.00

02:51:35.500 I'm on that scale. 1.00

02:51:36.800 I'm like the hot, crazy scale.

02:51:40.820 Well, actually guys are so desperate.

02:51:43.200 You took a nose dive off of that scale.

02:51:46.100 You're that scale doesn't even exist in your paradigm. 0.98

02:51:49.980 You're in like the Baba Booey mentally ill should be locked up in asylum style scale. 0.98

02:51:55.820 You're way off the regular Rinker scale. 0.98

02:51:58.060 That's why I work at home.

02:51:59.240 So I don't have to be out there menacing society.

02:52:02.460 You're, you're living in a prison of your own invention.

02:52:06.380 Like you're, there's a prison for your mind.

02:52:08.960 Nobody is forcing you.

02:52:10.340 Like if, and it sounds like you're desirous of taking on the more masculine role of being

02:52:15.000 the initiator, being the chaser.

02:52:16.880 I mean, I agree.

02:52:17.780 But there's like a, there's a contradiction here.

02:52:20.020 On one hand, you say that, but you also said you're very, uh, you don't approach men.

02:52:27.460 Not at clubs.

02:52:29.100 Or bars.

02:52:29.780 Or in person.

02:52:30.800 Or at Trader Joe's.

02:52:32.020 That one time.

02:52:33.080 Uh, no, I'm just going off of my experiences so far and the impressions that I've had received.

02:52:40.300 Okay, pull up the tweet again.

02:52:46.520 I guess I'll get through the rest.

02:52:48.300 Uh, they decide whether or not they want to be your boyfriend. 0.99

02:52:50.920 While I sit there shit out of luck, hoping to be noticed. 0.87

02:52:54.440 Well, so like are women owed relationships? 1.00

02:52:57.540 Uh, no, I think God decides what relationship you have in the end, if you have one.

02:53:06.360 Um, I don't think I'm owed one.

02:53:09.060 I would like one.

02:53:10.540 I've always wanted some, something normal.

02:53:15.260 But no, I don't think anyone is owed anything.

02:53:20.360 We'll try, we'll try to get through all these.

02:53:22.100 I have a question.

02:53:22.940 You just said that God decides if you have a relationship or not.

02:53:26.920 But in that same tweet, you, sorry, in that same tweet, you say that men decide?

02:53:33.820 Yeah, um, I think that's more so, like my own experiences, they have decided whether

02:53:45.420 or not they wanted to be my boyfriend, whereas I had already liked them.

02:53:51.180 Well, it follows with a patriarchal society, because essentially in the hierarchy, God would

02:53:56.820 have the closest connection and accountability.

02:53:59.620 Like it would be God, man, woman, children, and then like earth and animals, right?

02:54:05.300 So it does follow that you trusting God is actually you trusting God through a man to approach you

02:54:12.600 and be like a soulmate or the right match for you.

02:54:15.340 Exactly.

02:54:15.920 Essentially.

02:54:16.320 And I would agree with that in this societal construct.

02:54:20.640 That's why in a sense, I just kind of live a non-traditional life because this patriarchal society has kind of canceled me

02:54:28.620 from being able to, you know, not that it would never be possible, but I have always thought of myself as damaged goods

02:54:36.220 because I wasn't raised by a good dad.

02:54:38.840 My dad raised me to be a sex worker.

02:54:41.420 So I felt like as soon as I went that path, even though it wasn't for me, I actually rebelled and took the whole religious traditional path.

02:54:51.220 I rebelled against my family.

02:54:53.500 And then I was outcast from my family.

02:54:55.760 Yeah, this is such, it's always such cope from you, man, when you say that.

02:54:59.400 Like, oh, my dad did this.

02:55:01.580 Everyone else is always responsible for everything Desiree does except Desiree.

02:55:05.780 Like, everybody's always responsible for everything you do except you, right?

02:55:11.460 Nobody is forcing you to do sex work right now. 0.99

02:55:14.580 You do it because you want to fucking do it. 0.99

02:55:17.460 Well, I have this whole experience of all of my life and skeletons in my closet essentially being, like, national headlines. 0.99

02:55:27.520 It led me to have to...

02:55:29.520 And done by Desiree.

02:55:31.100 All orchestrated and done by Desiree.

02:55:33.440 All of it produced by Desiree, right?

02:55:37.200 So the thing is, is like, oh, I didn't want anybody to know my life story that I put in a book.

02:55:42.600 And then went on several podcasts to explain about incessantly.

02:55:45.740 It's like, come on, you orchestrated all of it, right?

02:55:49.340 You got to stop being such a victim all the time.

02:55:52.100 I was simply saying that the state is actually recognizing my case with family trafficking.

02:56:01.140 And I'm actually able to now seek restitution for the damages that were done from my family.

02:56:06.640 So that's awesome.

02:56:08.040 And it is...

02:56:08.100 I don't know what that has to do with what I'm saying to you.

02:56:10.060 Well, I'm just simply saying that I'm, in a sense, like, ending that chapter of my life where I don't need to keep talking about how it was victimized.

02:56:19.720 Because restitution will be made.

02:56:22.300 I'll be set up financially.

02:56:24.100 And then at that point, we'll see if I keep doing modeling or not.

02:56:27.440 Because my family owes me, like, $15 million.

02:56:31.560 Bro, I'm not going to...

02:56:32.680 I don't think we're going to derail on that one.

02:56:36.040 But let's just try to get through all the tweets.

02:56:38.340 And then we can...

02:56:40.440 Yeah.

02:56:43.720 How's it right about one?

02:56:46.720 I don't know.

02:56:47.240 You seem pretty feminine.

02:56:49.440 She does.

02:56:50.240 You're pretty feminine. 0.98

02:56:50.900 You are very feminine. 1.00

02:56:51.920 That's why I'm trying to encourage you.

02:56:53.520 Like, it was a bad experience.

02:56:54.980 Not all guys are like that.

02:56:55.340 You sure you don't want to poke somebody?

02:56:56.260 Is that it?

02:56:56.600 You sure you don't want to peg? 0.66

02:56:57.780 I don't.

02:56:58.160 She doesn't want to peg.

02:56:58.840 She doesn't want to peg.

02:56:59.920 I think...

02:57:00.420 You seem pretty feminine.

02:57:01.520 I've been that way since I was younger.

02:57:05.560 And I think that's why I was driven to the whole gendered soul thing is... 0.97

02:57:10.060 Wait, can we just maybe wait until...

02:57:13.100 You know, a lot of people up at the table right now.

02:57:14.740 Maybe we just wait until...

02:57:16.660 All right, let's do the next tweet, please.

02:57:23.220 It's...

02:57:23.820 Or can you read this one?

02:57:24.840 It's always the pretty ones.

02:57:26.900 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:57:27.480 Hold on, Austin.

02:57:28.840 Can you make it smaller so we can see this video playing while she... 1.00

02:57:33.920 A little bigger?

02:57:34.760 Yeah, that's perfect.

02:57:36.220 Okay, go ahead.

02:57:37.180 It's always the pretty ones because we become sick of the bullying from females and males 0.99

02:57:41.560 not seeing our personalities or any depth.

02:57:44.180 We decide to destroy our appearance as much as possible so that maybe someone will love

02:57:48.420 us for who we are inside.

02:57:49.900 That's one thing I grieve after reverting back.

02:57:52.120 I miss being a person.

02:57:53.240 And this video, it's a video that you're reacting to.

02:57:56.680 You got a girl here and she absolutely destroys her appearance. 1.00

02:58:01.820 Absolutely destroyed. 0.99

02:58:04.120 Damn, that's a big, big rip in the chat. 0.99

02:58:09.300 Okay. 0.99

02:58:10.000 Next one, I guess.

02:58:10.940 I just thought that was interesting.

02:58:13.020 Can you scroll it back up?

02:58:14.340 I think too big now.

02:58:16.760 I think it's too big.

02:58:17.460 One down.

02:58:19.080 Yeah.

02:58:20.260 You for real cannot talk to a single woman or man these days without them having five 1.00

02:58:24.640 new bodies every single month.

02:58:26.960 Is this about Vivian?

02:58:29.280 No.

02:58:29.720 Actually, five in total.

02:58:32.820 And five?

02:58:34.360 Huh?

02:58:35.000 Wait, five?

02:58:36.220 Five in what?

02:58:37.200 Body count?

02:58:38.120 Yeah.

02:58:39.200 And two of them?

02:58:40.640 More like last week.

02:58:41.820 Wait, what was your body count last time?

02:58:44.720 Three.

02:58:45.720 Oh, okay.

02:58:46.200 So you added.

02:58:47.140 Sorry, three.

02:58:48.180 Okay.

02:58:48.800 All right.

02:58:49.260 Pull it back up.

02:58:49.820 Yeah, she was doing some confidence stuff, though.

02:58:52.280 Yeah, it was boosting her.

02:58:53.660 Ovulating.

02:58:54.100 Boosting her confidence.

02:58:55.280 No, that wasn't confidence. 0.99

02:58:56.980 I just wanted to have sex.

02:58:57.420 How many do you think it's going to be, like, do you have a guess? 0.94

02:59:00.760 Like, if we're doing predictions, like, how many do you think by 19?

02:59:05.180 I feel like I've been dissuaded.

02:59:06.640 I feel like I'm better off, like, doing, like, getting that from myself, you know?

02:59:13.760 Masturbation?

02:59:14.720 Yeah.

02:59:15.520 Oh.

02:59:17.820 Like, because I don't have to be rejected or, like, feel, like, anxious about, like,

02:59:23.560 he's going to, like, text me back and, like, it's just easier.

02:59:26.660 So you're just going to be a celibate for the next forever or?

02:59:30.420 Well, no.

02:59:32.260 I, that's not the plan, like, but I wouldn't, I'm, I've been dissuaded from hookups because

02:59:39.760 I can honestly, like, do it myself.

02:59:42.740 I don't really need, it's not really worth it.

02:59:45.720 The sex with the guys was not better than what you could do with yourself, like, pleasure-wise.

02:59:50.240 So it's not really worth the risk emotionally, health-wise, all that.

02:59:54.360 But, like, I.

02:59:55.060 Yeah, I'm pretty sure women have sex for more than just pure physical reasons. 1.00

03:00:00.080 No, yeah.

03:00:00.580 I mean, for, for me, it was, like, it was, like, yeah, I could do that on my own, but

03:00:05.900 I did want the, like, emotional, you know, connection.

03:00:09.920 But I don't, like, connect with people that easily, I feel like.

03:00:13.000 It's a big investment.

03:00:14.740 Mm-hmm.

03:00:15.540 Okay.

03:00:16.620 Next one, I guess.

03:00:18.440 Next tweet.

03:00:21.740 In my opinion, wait, what?

03:00:25.060 Oh, okay.

03:00:27.740 Can you read this?

03:00:29.840 The original tweet is, I don't like telling guys I'm trans until after the first date,

03:00:34.120 and I do it by text or safety.

03:00:35.980 Someone told me that's wrong, and I said, IMO, men and women should be able to press charges 0.99

03:00:41.580 against shit like this. 0.99

03:00:42.880 I agree with this tweet. 1.00

03:00:46.280 Yes.

03:00:46.840 I agree with.

03:00:47.980 It's assault.

03:00:48.540 Absolutely.

03:00:48.780 I agree with this tweet.

03:00:51.300 I think it should be disclosed.

03:00:54.080 Straight to jail.

03:00:55.380 Straight to jail.

03:00:56.360 Before the first date, I think you gotta, you know.

03:01:00.100 True.

03:01:00.480 I always tell guys that I do OnlyFans before I would ever.

03:01:03.640 That's true.

03:01:04.180 Move forward.

03:01:04.800 Because I think that's a. 0.99

03:01:05.780 We had a prostitute. 0.99

03:01:06.360 It's not for everybody. 0.97

03:01:07.940 What do you think about this one?

03:01:08.940 We had a prostitute who came on the show who slept with thousands of men, and she would 1.00

03:01:14.120 be on dating apps, and she would not disclose the fact to these men on dating apps that she 0.96

03:01:19.160 was a prostitute. 0.99

03:01:20.320 Now look, nothing legally compelling her to do it, but I would say it's more, there's 0.88

03:01:25.020 a more moral or ethical.

03:01:27.740 I.

03:01:28.100 Diseases.

03:01:28.540 Diseases.

03:01:29.340 Yeah.

03:01:30.220 But I just.

03:01:30.760 Well, let's say, just for the sake of argument, she didn't have any diseases.

03:01:34.500 Not sure if that's the case.

03:01:36.300 I mean, you should.

03:01:37.320 It's a big part of the law.

03:01:38.640 I still think you should probably tell somebody before going on a date with them that you're 1.00

03:01:43.600 a whore. 1.00

03:01:45.240 Yeah. 1.00

03:01:45.800 Imagine if the guy was seen.

03:01:47.460 Literally.

03:01:48.060 I'm not saying that to be.

03:01:49.200 Just literally.

03:01:49.820 And if anything, just because what if he finds out not from you before?

03:01:54.500 That would be a whole messy situation.

03:01:56.580 That would be very messy.

03:01:57.660 It would be better just to disclose it.

03:01:58.980 That would be super messy.

03:02:00.440 And that way, take it or leave it.

03:02:01.880 Yes.

03:02:02.500 Very messy.

03:02:03.540 It would be super messy.

03:02:04.420 Next tweet, I guess. 0.99

03:02:08.260 If a man would slap you in any context, he's sick and dangerous. 0.97

03:02:12.220 There's no way around it. 0.95

03:02:13.240 Unless it's a kinky, consensual thing. 0.99

03:02:16.120 Wait, so hold on.

03:02:16.980 Any context?

03:02:18.920 I personally would not like that.

03:02:22.020 But I just think any man that would slap a woman in any context is abusive.

03:02:30.160 You never know.

03:02:30.820 You might.

03:02:31.360 If you felt safe with a man and he had a thing to slap you off or something.

03:02:34.620 I would not feel safe with a man physically.

03:02:36.500 Oh, okay.

03:02:37.400 No, no.

03:02:38.060 What about in self-defense?

03:02:42.240 Sure.

03:02:43.440 That's not what I was saying.

03:02:44.580 Well, that's a context, though.

03:02:47.820 Yeah.

03:02:48.540 I mean, I guess if you're in a violent altercation, yeah.

03:02:56.480 Got him.

03:02:57.060 No, what if it's your girlfriend and she starts smacking you around a bit first? 1.00

03:03:01.280 I mean, it's a violent altercation.

03:03:04.900 Okay, so you're fine with it in that context.

03:03:07.160 Yeah, I mean, if I had a son and I knew that he was being abused.

03:03:09.860 Italy says no.

03:03:11.200 No.

03:03:11.920 No?

03:03:12.320 No, I don't think not.

03:03:13.580 He could hold it down.

03:03:14.580 Like, hold your arms.

03:03:16.320 Yeah, yeah, whatever.

03:03:17.700 Like, the strength is different.

03:03:19.640 And that's a fact.

03:03:20.780 So, like, you should not do it anyway.

03:03:24.780 Like, no, you do it like that.

03:03:25.820 Well, I don't understand that.

03:03:28.340 So, like, let's say that there was a really weak guy who punched you in the face.

03:03:32.560 Why couldn't you punch them back in the face because you were a really strong guy?

03:03:36.220 I think it's situational. 0.98

03:03:37.780 Like, if you know your favorite.

03:03:38.540 Okay, let her answer.

03:03:39.440 Hang on.

03:03:40.660 So, so to you, if a really weak guy punched you in the face, if you were a man, what would be the problem with punching him back?

03:03:49.300 I think if you know you're bigger as a man, then you can just handle her, like, set her aside or walk away.

03:03:59.900 You should not touch a woman anyways. 1.00

03:04:02.000 Yeah, but that doesn't make any sense.

03:04:04.500 Again, so I'm going to ask the question.

03:04:06.880 You had a strong guy and a weak guy.

03:04:08.760 And the weak guy punches the strong guy in the face.

03:04:11.700 What is the problem with the strong guy punching him back in the face?

03:04:15.400 Nothing.

03:04:16.620 Okay, well, then you would apply that same logic to women, right? 0.90

03:04:20.520 Just because you're weak doesn't mean that if you punch a guy in the face, you don't get what's coming to you back, right?

03:04:26.460 I guess I'm viewing it as a, in the perspective of a mother, because I want to be a mother.

03:04:33.180 You know, when I go out on dates, I think about the mom.

03:04:36.440 I don't know.

03:04:36.860 I'm weird.

03:04:37.920 I would not like to hear that my son was being abused, but maybe I should look at it as, you know, that's a woman.

03:04:46.600 I don't know.

03:04:47.920 I don't know.

03:04:48.640 I'm kind of conflicted.

03:04:52.000 On what?

03:04:52.680 I don't understand what you're conflicted on.

03:04:54.160 In a situation where a woman was abusing a man, yes. 0.99

03:04:59.840 Yeah, if a woman strikes a man, why does she get, like, a get out of getting decked in the face card? 1.00

03:05:04.480 I don't get that.

03:05:05.060 I mean, I don't know.

03:05:05.820 She shouldn't.

03:05:07.620 Yeah, I don't know either.

03:05:09.020 I've never really actually heard a good objection to this.

03:05:11.580 Yeah.

03:05:11.980 I've heard, well, because they're not as strong as men, but it's like, okay, but that objection never comes up when weak men get beat up by strong men because they hit strong men.

03:05:20.160 So why do women get the pass? 1.00

03:05:21.640 They shouldn't.

03:05:24.860 They should know better and keep their hands to themselves.

03:05:27.480 I will say, though, our bones and our skeletal structures are physically weaker.

03:05:32.200 So even then, a smaller, weaker man would still have a stronger skeletal structure than a female. 0.87

03:05:38.220 Yeah, but nobody's going to cry over a weaker man getting smacked, right?

03:05:42.200 I know.

03:05:42.640 That's what I'm saying.

03:05:43.480 Because if a weaker woman punches a man, like, well, she gets what's coming back to her, right? 1.00

03:05:48.460 Well, what I'm saying is it poses the weaker, the woman a greater danger by being hit by the man than a man hitting another man. 0.81

03:05:56.680 I guess you shouldn't hit men.

03:05:57.740 Well, yeah, I mean, in a perfect world, but we had to pick a...

03:06:02.520 Well, what do you mean a perfect world?

03:06:04.640 Like, it's an imperfect world.

03:06:05.860 I'm just saying, if a woman stands up and punches a man and then gets knocked unconscious by the man, not only do I not see a problem with that, but I actually think it should happen. 0.98

03:06:17.800 I think he should do that. 0.99

03:06:19.340 I think his priority should be to put her on her ass, and I don't think she'll ever do it again, right? 0.99

03:06:25.540 Like, that's the point. 1.00

03:06:26.560 It's simple common sense.

03:06:27.840 Keep your hands to yourself.

03:06:29.280 Yeah.

03:06:29.560 Yeah.

03:06:29.840 That's obviously like that.

03:06:32.000 Okay.

03:06:32.660 And the men can get restraining orders against women. 1.00

03:06:35.840 I have a restraining order against me from a guy who has a battery, assault and battery charge against me, and they let him get a restraining order against me.

03:06:44.040 That's 38.

03:06:44.560 But here's the thing.

03:06:45.600 Here's the thing.

03:06:45.960 It's so funny.

03:06:47.060 Here's the thing.

03:06:47.800 The thing is, it's like, look, I get that, but I don't know how that's really an objection to me saying, if a woman.

03:06:55.280 Now, I think that you should just not attack people, right?

03:06:59.740 You should just not attack people.

03:07:01.340 But if you are a person who just can't help yourself but attacks somebody and that person defends themselves, I just can't think of a good objection other than, well, they were defending themselves. 0.99

03:07:13.520 I don't know why the fact that they have a vagina gives them some special pass on this. 1.00

03:07:19.000 Well, because our whole skeletal structure is weaker than a male skeletal structure. 0.93

03:07:24.860 Our bones are more fragile.

03:07:25.860 That don't hit men. 0.99

03:07:26.260 Well, yes, of course.

03:07:28.100 Okay, so Desiree, okay.

03:07:29.400 I'm simply explaining that why people would have a problem with this.

03:07:32.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:07:32.700 Let me engage with this.

03:07:34.540 Desiree, if a man went over and punched a gorilla in the face, what do you think would happen to him?

03:07:42.060 He would probably be dead.

03:07:46.740 Yeah, the gorilla would rip him limb from limb, right? 1.00

03:07:50.040 Would you, if you read in the newspaper, stupid man punches gorilla in the face and gorilla then beats man to death, would you be like, what a dumb fuck? 1.00

03:08:01.580 Or would you go and be like, my God, how could this gorilla have done such a horrific thing to this poor man? 1.00

03:08:07.180 I'm not arguing with you there, Andrew.

03:08:09.160 His bone structure, it's just, it's not even the same as that of a gorilla.

03:08:13.780 How could the gorilla do such a thing?

03:08:15.960 I think you misunderstood what I was saying.

03:08:17.320 I was simply saying that is why society has kind of this double standard.

03:08:22.680 That's all I was saying.

03:08:23.480 I'm not saying that the woman should go assault the man.

03:08:26.860 Yeah, yeah, right.

03:08:27.580 But I'm not interested in kind of these greater caveats of, well, this is why society thinks X, because that's not the argument that I was making.

03:08:36.200 I wasn't making the argument about what society thinks.

03:08:38.340 I was making the argument for what Andrew Wilson thinks. 1.00

03:08:41.160 What Andrew Wilson thinks is that if dumb, weak person punches really strong person and gets knocked the fuck out, that's what you get. 0.99

03:08:49.440 It seems really simple to me. 1.00

03:08:51.480 Just like if you attack a guy weaker than you, he pulls out a gun and ends your life, that you get what you get, right?

03:08:58.080 This is just how it works.

03:09:00.220 You reap what you sow.

03:09:00.920 You attack people and then you don't have to worry about it, right?

03:09:03.740 I would concede.

03:09:04.900 You reap what you sow.

03:09:05.900 So, yeah.

03:09:06.760 Ladies, keep your hands to yourself. 1.00

03:09:09.160 Yeah.

03:09:10.200 Yeah.

03:09:10.780 It just seems reasonable.

03:09:12.400 I've never actually heard a good objection to this. 0.98

03:09:14.500 It's just like women go, but I should be privileged enough to just punch men in the face and have them do nothing. 0.99

03:09:19.680 It's just so bizarre to me. 1.00

03:09:21.220 Women need to understand that between men to men, talk shit, get hit. 1.00

03:09:29.300 Like, guys deal with each other differently than women deal with each other. 1.00

03:09:33.080 And I'm not saying that to a woman, you talk shit to a man, get hit. 1.00

03:09:36.500 I'm not saying that. 0.99

03:09:37.500 But men socially have different ways of dealing with each other.

03:09:41.000 And most of that revolves around the physical in some cases or in most cases.

03:09:44.680 But women have another way of dealing with each other than in a nonviolent form. 1.00

03:09:49.280 The fact of the matter is, if you pick a fight that you know you can't back it up physically, maybe don't pick that fight.

03:09:57.540 Yeah.

03:09:57.860 It doesn't seem like it's a wise idea.

03:10:00.260 And honestly, I will say this, that I have had two long-term relationships.

03:10:05.860 One was a traditional, like me as the submissive, him as the dominant.

03:10:10.140 That relationship never got physical, no matter how toxic it was, never got physical.

03:10:14.680 I jumped to trying, like, a non-traditional relationship, like an open relationship with a more feminine guy who let me, like, run the show. 0.99

03:10:22.260 Was this the toilet guy?

03:10:23.080 The what?

03:10:23.680 The toilet guy.

03:10:24.520 No, no, no.

03:10:25.080 That was just a friend.

03:10:25.580 Can you tell us that story really quick?

03:10:27.860 Do you want me to finish the one story and then jump to that?

03:10:29.340 No, I'd rather just hear the toilet story.

03:10:30.140 Okay, so that was just a friend, a consensual BDSM dynamic where I was going deeper into handling more and more intense sexual experiences.

03:10:41.920 So what was it?

03:10:42.560 So he had...

03:10:44.680 In order to heal your trauma?

03:10:46.760 Yeah, I really did.

03:10:48.060 Yeah.

03:10:48.340 Because I had had those same traumas on my mom's side.

03:10:51.080 I know, I read it in your book.

03:10:51.480 Now you read it in your book, right.

03:10:52.640 Yeah, you had a bunch of people to heal your trauma.

03:10:53.000 No, I never talked about that.

03:10:54.000 Yeah, just tell us the story.

03:10:55.740 Okay, so his biggest fantasy, he was my daddy.

03:10:58.600 I was his baby girl in the BDSM dynamic. 1.00

03:11:01.460 So his biggest fantasy was that he would hold my head in the toilet while he was fucking me in the ass. 1.00

03:11:07.600 And I let him. 1.00

03:11:09.920 We did this whole reenactment of the thing consensually.

03:11:13.100 What?

03:11:13.640 And we had the safe words and the gestures and the whole situation.

03:11:16.780 So I learned that I could take it.

03:11:22.620 I was like, oh, I got it.

03:11:24.740 I could do this thing, guys.

03:11:26.680 Hold on.

03:11:27.300 What were you thinking?

03:11:28.640 It was like a bucket list thing.

03:11:30.100 I had never done that intense of an experience.

03:11:33.840 And many, many men actually do have these more violent fantasies.

03:11:37.280 My theory being because our creator gave us this kind of conduit to transmute all of these kind of violent tendencies of men.

03:11:46.240 I'm sorry for the world.

03:11:47.300 Please don't listen to this.

03:11:48.360 I'm sorry for her.

03:11:49.380 I'll pray for her.

03:11:51.900 Anyway, so the man felt very blessed that I allowed him that experience.

03:11:55.800 He could never find any other woman who was willing to do it. 1.00

03:11:58.580 And just because we have free will doesn't mean we shouldn't use it.

03:12:02.600 Anyway, I liked it.

03:12:03.720 I'm an animal girl, you guys. 0.99

03:12:05.360 I'm like, I have a whole cult following of ass fetish guys. 0.99

03:12:08.560 So that's my thing. 0.99

03:12:09.420 Butt stuff.

03:12:10.340 I'm your mamacita.

03:12:12.680 Come see how to do it.

03:12:15.860 Ew. 1.00

03:12:17.120 That's fucking disgusting. 1.00

03:12:19.300 No butt stuff for you guys, Andrew? 1.00

03:12:21.540 Is that a sin in your ideology? 1.00

03:12:23.500 I've seen all of your fucking butt that I ever want to see, Desiree. 1.00

03:12:26.820 I know. 1.00

03:12:27.100 Whether I want to see it or not, you want to make sure that I see it. 0.99

03:12:30.320 Poor Andrew had to see my white cellulite almost 40 ass. 0.99

03:12:34.560 Sorry, Andrew. 0.99

03:12:35.500 It was pretty gross.

03:12:36.600 I had underwear on.

03:12:37.560 I did have underwear on, just to clarify.

03:12:41.640 We have it.

03:12:42.420 If you guys want, it's on the Discord.

03:12:45.960 Discord.gg slash whatever if you want to see it.

03:12:49.080 18 and over, guys.

03:12:50.380 18 and over.

03:12:50.980 For God's sake.

03:12:51.660 I don't want to see it.

03:12:52.800 You don't want to see it, though.

03:12:54.120 We have it posted there.

03:12:54.940 You don't want to see it.

03:12:55.760 It's like the gates of hell.

03:12:57.060 This went viral worldwide.

03:12:58.420 The gates of hell itself opens up.

03:13:01.260 It's true. 0.99

03:13:01.520 And you have to see what it's like when this geriatric woman tries to sexually assault a happily married man. 1.00

03:13:07.200 But you guys, it's a real ass, okay? 1.00

03:13:09.100 I have not gotten a BBL. 0.99

03:13:12.060 Brian, poor Brian.

03:13:13.380 I knocked him. 1.00

03:13:13.780 Real milk ass. 1.00

03:13:14.020 I got up. 1.00

03:13:14.560 Shut up, Desiree. 0.98

03:13:15.600 I got up, and I pulled Brian over. 0.99

03:13:19.100 I shouldered him to the side in order to get away from the devastation of hell itself opening up.

03:13:27.480 That's true.

03:13:28.160 Right in front of me.

03:13:29.660 It was like that.

03:13:30.260 And they have like a support group of men online.

03:13:32.420 Brian later came to me.

03:13:33.640 We had this conversation.

03:13:34.780 Not about you, Desiree.

03:13:35.640 It's about me now.

03:13:36.420 So Brian had this conversation afterwards, and Brian was like, Andrew, why did you do that?

03:13:42.320 And I told him.

03:13:43.360 I told him my zombie apocalypse theory, which is I don't have to run fast.

03:13:47.060 I just have to run faster than you, right?

03:13:49.480 So the thing is is that I will totally maim Brian on my way out so that the bear gets him. 0.97

03:13:56.080 Absolutely. 0.94

03:13:56.740 I'm that kind of friend.

03:13:57.860 And I did do that.

03:13:58.900 I shouldered him to the side, and I rushed away to try to get away.

03:14:04.460 Poor Brian.

03:14:04.980 He threw you right under the bus, Brian.

03:14:06.640 It was very traumatizing.

03:14:08.280 Right under the bus.

03:14:09.860 It was very traumatizing.

03:14:10.560 How are you going to help him with his trauma of his close friend, Andrew Wilson, leaving him high and dry, like shouldering to the side?

03:14:16.500 I mean, maybe that's why I'm so clingy.

03:14:17.300 I'm probably clingy to him.

03:14:18.700 I'm like, just in case I ruined your life, I'm here.

03:14:22.260 You ruined my life, too.

03:14:23.720 So if you're lonely, me too.

03:14:28.040 Here I am.

03:14:28.960 Okay.

03:14:29.500 It's like that.

03:14:30.020 Hey, Desiree, can I ask you a question about how you wrote Brian a bunch of DMs about how you're his soulmate and how great he is?

03:14:39.100 Oh, my God.

03:14:39.220 Brian, bring up the picture.

03:14:39.800 And how you literally threw yourself at him in a desperate bid to get in his pants.

03:14:46.240 No, no.

03:14:46.580 Hang on.

03:14:46.760 Let me finish first before you start talking.

03:14:49.020 You threw yourself at him in a desperate bid to get in Brian Atlas' pants.

03:14:53.840 Why did you do that?

03:14:55.620 Honestly, I really have like a respect crush on the guy.

03:14:59.880 He's built this whole platform.

03:15:01.900 That is something I aspire to.

03:15:04.060 He's a handsome man.

03:15:05.300 I love the beard.

03:15:06.620 He's good with leadership.

03:15:09.380 I agree.

03:15:09.800 I agree that he's a brilliant guy. 0.98

03:15:11.300 But Desiree, you have no fucking chance with a guy like Atlas. 0.89

03:15:15.440 Like, what are you doing? 0.98

03:15:16.220 Well, that's why I'm just kind of like this groupie.

03:15:18.740 I'm kind of like, can I be like your free personal assistant?

03:15:21.720 Can I bring you food?

03:15:23.160 I'll sit over there.

03:15:24.640 Anything.

03:15:24.860 So desperate.

03:15:25.600 Anything. 0.98

03:15:26.080 I'm a Brian Atlas cock worshiper, I guess you would say. 1.00

03:15:29.560 And he has an ass. 1.00

03:15:31.020 He has ass. 1.00

03:15:32.440 That's rare. 1.00

03:15:34.140 What? 1.00

03:15:34.560 I feel like we can relate to each other because not every white person has an ass. 1.00

03:15:41.040 It's a thing. 0.99

03:15:42.080 I guess we do have that in common.

03:15:43.040 We have extra soul, Brian.

03:15:44.380 Brian, God gave us an extra measure of soul and the black community will agree.

03:15:49.340 What are you talking about? 0.99

03:15:50.500 That's not an ass. 1.00

03:15:51.500 It's a drooping pile of garbage that you tried to chase me out of the room with. 1.00

03:15:55.640 You'll have to subscribe. 0.99

03:15:55.920 What are you talking about?

03:15:57.040 You'll have to subscribe.

03:15:57.860 So I have a question.

03:15:59.280 Most of the things that you listed and the attributes that you look up to in Brian or look towards

03:16:04.640 on Brian were mostly related to the podcast.

03:16:07.340 So are you sure you're not clout chasing?

03:16:09.200 We could call it that.

03:16:10.400 I do have pretty severe intimacy issues relating to men taking advantage of me.

03:16:15.580 And so I think at this point in my life with children and everything, I'm more looking

03:16:19.240 for an equal partner to collaborate in life with more than like a traditional relationship

03:16:24.760 anymore.

03:16:25.160 So if you want to put it in that category, sure.

03:16:28.060 Sure.

03:16:31.480 Interesting.

03:16:32.700 Brian, I think that the whatever podcast deserves, your chat deserves and my chat deserves to hear

03:16:39.180 it from your mouth.

03:16:39.960 Now, directly from your mouth, I will not tolerate this slander against my pal, Brian Atlas, any

03:16:46.480 longer. 0.99

03:16:47.860 Brian, can you unequivocally say to Desiree's face, there's no fucking chance in hell ever? 0.98

03:16:57.160 Yeah, there's no chance in hell ever. 0.98

03:16:59.700 I would not.

03:17:03.440 Sorry, Desiree.

03:17:04.200 I mean, look, you send me these walls of text.

03:17:06.580 You want to show them the soulmate sketch.

03:17:09.360 I send, yeah, she also, I showed it to Andrew.

03:17:11.400 I could find the email.

03:17:11.980 I showed Andrew the soulmate text.

03:17:13.360 I mean, it looks like you.

03:17:15.060 Guys, this chick went to like a psychic. 1.00

03:17:17.140 A psychic sketched soulmate.

03:17:18.500 You know those, I like was so lonely when I met.

03:17:20.420 What her soulmate looks like.

03:17:21.680 You gotta show them, bro.

03:17:22.880 You gotta show them, bro.

03:17:23.540 Do I have to show the soulmate sketch?

03:17:24.820 I'm not normally like that, but.

03:17:26.920 I don't know if I can even do that.

03:17:28.340 I mean, it is weird.

03:17:29.280 And then all of a sudden a friend said, come to this show.

03:17:32.240 I got totally blindsided.

03:17:33.760 I had no idea.

03:17:34.620 I never would have met you.

03:17:36.120 It does kind of look like me, though.

03:17:37.820 I was trying to be like women's empowerment niche of the internet. 1.00

03:17:41.180 I wasn't like in this man's world.

03:17:44.600 I had no idea.

03:17:46.480 I would, Desiree.

03:17:47.680 It's weird. 0.99

03:17:48.440 You're crazy. 0.99

03:17:49.540 Do you want me to find it? 1.00

03:17:51.180 And DM it again?

03:17:53.660 I mean, you guys, it's.

03:17:55.780 Okay, okay.

03:17:56.520 Listen, the chat deserves, the chat deserves to see this.

03:17:59.800 We'll see the sketch.

03:18:00.660 We'll see the sketch, but you have to find it.

03:18:02.280 You have to go find it.

03:18:03.240 Yeah, but stick around.

03:18:05.920 Maybe towards the end of the show, you can reveal the sketch of doom.

03:18:10.280 I will show the sketch.

03:18:11.580 Wait, are we going to get a Rachel cameo?

03:18:13.340 What's going on?

03:18:14.260 Oh, yes, please.

03:18:14.900 Are we going to get a Rachel cameo? 0.82

03:18:16.720 Perhaps.

03:18:17.560 Oh.

03:18:18.560 It may happen.

03:18:20.020 I thought that this whole mate was Eminem, truth be told.

03:18:23.100 And then, because it kind of could look like Eminem within like.

03:18:26.260 I think she wants to meet Desiree in person, honestly.

03:18:29.400 Okay.

03:18:29.800 Wait, who wants to meet?

03:18:30.860 All right.

03:18:31.820 Well, okay, just send it to whatever Instagram, then I'll have Austin pull it up.

03:18:35.260 Okay.

03:18:35.700 It is.

03:18:36.640 I mean, come on.

03:18:37.600 It's.

03:18:40.320 I don't know.

03:18:41.900 Never say never.

03:18:44.100 Um.

03:18:44.140 I feel like I could make Brian a shitload of money.

03:18:52.320 I feel like I could bring you just as much money as you could help me make.

03:18:56.420 And I think that's what.

03:18:58.960 I don't know.

03:18:59.860 That's it feels like we could have a mutually beneficial relationship.

03:19:03.900 Yeah.

03:19:04.420 But you see, you have to understand that good Brian over here, he's moving towards the pathway

03:19:09.500 of God and not towards the pathway of the pimp.

03:19:11.860 Isn't that interesting?

03:19:14.140 I mean, I'm not really looking for him to be like my husband or something.

03:19:22.940 Actually, hold on before we do that.

03:19:24.280 I'm just saying like a business collaboration type thing.

03:19:27.040 That's wonderful.

03:19:27.600 That's all.

03:19:28.100 Okay.

03:19:28.340 I'm going to read a couple of chats here.

03:19:29.540 Actually, we have to have Anissa read this one.

03:19:32.800 Go ahead.

03:19:33.940 You have to do an Australian accent because he's in the Australian.

03:19:36.200 Okay.

03:19:36.620 I DMed it to the.

03:19:38.400 You got this?

03:19:40.140 I don't know.

03:19:40.880 You got this.

03:19:41.580 Australian.

03:19:42.260 The next season is scruffy today.

03:19:43.720 Anissa.

03:19:44.760 You didn't shave your neck.

03:19:46.120 Did you ever fix it? 0.99

03:19:47.820 Look at this freaking sketch and tell me this about Brian Atlas. 0.68

03:19:51.800 There he is. 0.88

03:19:52.640 Grid One Motorsports donated $200 and one cent.

03:19:55.940 There's another TTS coming.

03:19:57.060 Dissery, you will have better luck corp chasing this kuma named Destiny. 1.00

03:20:01.440 He has had a rough time lately and I know he will just love to break you a piece off and

03:20:05.860 let you clap chase all you want. 0.96

03:20:07.980 I can't fucking believe that I have to sit here and defend the kuma gremlin Destiny. 1.00

03:20:15.020 Destiny. 0.99

03:20:15.500 Even fucking Destiny would not tag. 0.99

03:20:22.220 Even Destiny. 0.99

03:20:23.380 I'm telling you guys, even Destiny wouldn't do it.

03:20:25.920 Even he has a special publicity.

03:20:27.760 $200.

03:20:29.220 Desiree, he'll have a one night stand, ghost you, never talk to you again just to add to

03:20:34.620 your skeletons in the closet you keep mentioning.

03:20:37.680 Maybe you can write a book on me? 1.00

03:20:41.480 Desiree, here's how much I would not have sex with you. 1.00

03:20:44.540 Okay. 1.00

03:20:44.720 So you could have a tubal ligation, like the fear of me ever getting you pregnant. 1.00

03:20:50.440 If I ever got you pregnant, the misery that would... 1.00

03:20:53.220 Oh, my kids are so cute.

03:20:55.040 No, no, no.

03:20:55.980 We would probably have a redhead. 1.00

03:20:57.860 I'm even scared of just being within 10 feet of you.

03:21:00.800 My littlest one's missing a hand though.

03:21:02.160 That's cool.

03:21:02.740 Let me finish my bit.

03:21:03.980 So if I had a vasectomy...

03:21:05.580 One could judge my age.

03:21:06.680 If I had a vasectomy and you had a tubal ligation, even the odds of potentially getting you pregnant 0.99

03:21:11.680 and being entrapped by you...

03:21:13.940 Entrapped?

03:21:14.680 Like just being tied to you for 18 years.

03:21:17.400 The thought of that is so terrifying.

03:21:19.460 Why would you be tied to me?

03:21:20.040 So terrifying.

03:21:21.480 I just...

03:21:22.740 There's...

03:21:23.180 I wouldn't...

03:21:25.020 You wouldn't have to be the dad if you didn't want to.

03:21:27.580 Okay, Desiree.

03:21:28.300 Have you ever seen a movie...

03:21:30.720 I don't know.

03:21:31.400 ...written originally by Stephen King called Misery?

03:21:34.660 Yes.

03:21:35.200 Good one.

03:21:35.620 Yeah, that would...

03:21:36.700 That's you, Desiree.

03:21:38.240 And Brian is the author strapped in the bed with his legs cut off, right?

03:21:43.720 Just desperately pleading to God himself for the great checkout time.

03:21:48.140 Yeah, somehow.

03:21:49.120 And you just won't let him go?

03:21:50.640 Yeah, somehow.

03:21:51.260 That is what it would be like.

03:21:52.980 Somehow, he still keeps inviting me back.

03:21:56.380 It's so weird. 0.98

03:21:57.460 Brian, I think you're a little bit of a masochist.

03:21:59.560 What are you doing here? 0.77

03:22:00.820 Honestly, Desiree, we were... 0.97

03:22:03.020 You like cock worshippers? 0.96

03:22:03.100 You've never been cock worshipped before? 1.00

03:22:05.620 I've had my cock worshipped. 1.00

03:22:07.080 Have you had a slave? 1.00

03:22:07.660 First off.

03:22:08.180 Have you ever had a slave? 0.99

03:22:08.960 Like a sex slave? 0.99

03:22:09.800 I've had slaves. 1.00

03:22:10.840 The bowing?

03:22:11.540 I've had slaves. 1.00

03:22:12.100 The blowjob with the bow? 1.00

03:22:13.480 I asked for women to bow to me. 1.00

03:22:14.740 Of course I've had slaves, okay?

03:22:16.160 First off, don't listen.

03:22:18.020 He's too inspired.

03:22:18.200 Don't make assumptions about what I've had.

03:22:19.420 Most men I come upon have never had a sex slave before, so it's very inviting. 0.96

03:22:23.780 Yeah, but there's trade-offs.

03:22:24.460 I guess you've had so many because you're such a cool guy, so I'm not used to it.

03:22:28.660 I'm not used to it.

03:22:28.960 There's trade-offs.

03:22:29.820 The thing is, the older I get, the less I'm willing to put up with...

03:22:34.540 Because look, sex, 20, 30 minutes.

03:22:38.120 That's all you have?

03:22:38.800 And then it's like I've got to deal with you for the other...

03:22:41.060 Okay, well then I would never be with you that way anyway.

03:22:43.100 20, 30 minutes is not going to do it for me.

03:22:44.460 That's not enough for you?

03:22:45.420 No.

03:22:46.660 Okay, we're not compatible.

03:22:47.760 It's all good.

03:22:48.140 Okay, well perfect.

03:22:48.940 It's perfect.

03:22:49.240 No, we could still potentially do business together. 1.00

03:22:51.020 This chick wants to do a fucking marathon sex thing. 1.00

03:22:52.640 It's like, 30 minutes, that's good. 1.00

03:22:55.980 You don't need more than 30 minutes.

03:22:57.620 What are you trying to... 1.00

03:22:58.300 What the fuck? 1.00

03:22:59.380 I'm kind of a nymph, they say. 1.00

03:23:01.920 Is that what they call it?

03:23:02.660 A nympho?

03:23:04.480 I guess. 0.95

03:23:05.020 I'm very sexual.

03:23:05.960 I'm hyper-sexualized because of...

03:23:09.660 Well, Andrew wouldn't want me to blame that on anything.

03:23:11.800 Listen, you're not hyper-sexual.

03:23:12.220 I'm just hyper-sexual.

03:23:13.260 You're not hyper-sexualized. 1.00

03:23:14.500 You're just a fucking lunatic. 1.00

03:23:16.220 Okay? 1.00

03:23:16.600 You're just a lunatic. 1.00

03:23:17.540 I guess in this day and age where the libido of the average American woman is so low, I 1.00

03:23:23.520 guess I would seem pretty psycho because I have this insatiable sex track. 0.99

03:23:27.940 It doesn't have anything to do with your libido. 0.99

03:23:30.580 Well, I mean... 0.98

03:23:31.120 There's women on here who are prostitutes and just tell me all about how they just love 1.00

03:23:37.180 screwing everything that they see. 1.00

03:23:38.880 Well, I don't like that.

03:23:39.300 I can even rationalize and understand that mentality better than I can. 0.99

03:23:44.180 You're fucking like new age mixture of Christianity and crazy-ass dogma that you then kind of create 1.00

03:23:50.860 the psychological pinnacle of fucking nonsense in order to justify every horrific thing that 1.00

03:23:57.300 you've ever done to people. 1.00

03:23:58.580 It's just...

03:23:59.220 It's mind-boggling, too.

03:24:00.640 Anyways, we'll move it on here.

03:24:02.660 I'll get these chats read, then we'll get into some more topics.

03:24:05.840 Can you...

03:24:06.740 Australian accent?

03:24:07.440 Good day, people.

03:24:10.540 Just found your show, mate, and have consumed it flat out the last few days.

03:24:15.680 Great concept.

03:24:16.560 Love it.

03:24:17.680 Andrew, you are elite, mate. 0.98

03:24:19.700 I'm sorry for the two dimwit Oscals you had to endure. 1.00

03:24:24.400 Embarrassing. 0.98

03:24:25.300 That was very good.

03:24:25.660 It wasn't...

03:24:26.280 They were Australian, though.

03:24:28.380 That wasn't the problem, but I'll just leave it there.

03:24:31.580 Also, Australia doesn't exist, according to Andrew, so...

03:24:35.960 What?

03:24:36.660 Aussie Driller Jim, he's a driller, and he's in Australia.

03:24:40.340 Hey, thank you, man.

03:24:40.880 Really appreciate the message.

03:24:42.100 Thank you.

03:24:42.240 Where would you say he's from, Andrew, if it's not Australia?

03:24:45.320 Just...

03:24:45.760 Never mind.

03:24:46.300 Okay.

03:24:47.320 It's like a flat world.

03:24:48.520 Do you believe in the fact?

03:24:49.340 Okay.

03:24:49.960 Can you read this, please?

03:24:50.820 Yo, Brian, have Mr. Producer Glenn Lawrence and Josie Lissard come on whatever right now?

03:24:57.680 They're outside.

03:24:58.460 I'm going to be awesome to have on.

03:24:59.740 Andrew, can you vouch for me, then?

03:25:06.180 I mean, of course, of course, but you would have to set that stuff up beforehand to go

03:25:13.140 on the show, though I do vouch for both those people.

03:25:15.900 I do think that you should probably set it up beforehand.

03:25:20.060 Yeah.

03:25:20.660 I don't know if I really want to go into this.

03:25:22.420 It's kind of like a...

03:25:24.740 Is it Josie?

03:25:25.880 It's Josie, isn't it?

03:25:27.280 Yep.

03:25:27.760 Come on.

03:25:28.060 Is it Josie?

03:25:29.240 Yeah. 0.99

03:25:30.160 Yeah, I fucking knew it. 1.00

03:25:31.780 I knew I shouldn't trust fucking Josie. 1.00

03:25:33.860 I fucking knew it. 0.99

03:25:34.820 Tell me, Brian, what happened? 0.99

03:25:37.380 I feel I should get into it just for the...

03:25:40.780 Oh, okay.

03:25:43.240 I knew it couldn't be Glenn Lawrence, though.

03:25:45.520 Very upstanding guy, Glenn Lawrence.

03:25:47.240 But Josie?

03:25:48.060 Yeah.

03:25:48.260 I don't know.

03:25:49.260 Yeah.

03:25:51.640 I don't know.

03:25:52.380 Yeah.

03:25:52.540 Anyways, can you read this one, Anissa?

03:25:55.560 Anissa?

03:25:56.080 My bad.

03:25:57.100 I mean, you could literally open a dating app and bone him the same night if you wanted

03:26:01.500 to.

03:26:01.760 I think this is for you.

03:26:04.300 I'm not like that.

03:26:05.720 I don't do hookups. 0.96

03:26:07.600 Wait, but didn't you...

03:26:09.140 The...

03:26:10.380 Yeah.

03:26:11.320 The...

03:26:11.640 The date.

03:26:12.940 But previously, I had only been with my ex.

03:26:17.040 And the only reason I did wasn't to hook up.

03:26:21.860 It was because I actually liked him.

03:26:24.440 And...

03:26:24.960 But now, I think I would wait until I'm officially a girlfriend.

03:26:30.360 Okay.

03:26:30.860 But...

03:26:31.060 Wait, questions on this.

03:26:32.460 You said you recently, like a week ago, you went on the first date?

03:26:35.320 Yeah.

03:26:35.880 Did you...

03:26:36.880 No.

03:26:37.740 Okay.

03:26:38.700 And then, what about your first, like, two-year boyfriend?

03:26:41.100 Like, how quick was that?

03:26:46.020 Um...

03:26:46.460 The same day that we met.

03:26:49.040 Like, how soon after meeting?

03:26:50.600 Like...

03:26:51.200 Like...

03:26:52.020 Within how many minutes?

03:26:53.520 Um...

03:26:55.520 I don't know.

03:26:58.480 I don't remember.

03:26:59.780 You...

03:27:00.180 Was this the first guy you've ever been with?

03:27:02.300 Yeah.

03:27:03.280 You don't remember the time you lost your virginity?

03:27:07.040 Uh...

03:27:07.760 Well...

03:27:08.960 I mean, this is kind of dark, but...

03:27:12.840 Uh...

03:27:13.420 About...

03:27:14.740 A few months before him, I had been...

03:27:17.960 Okay.

03:27:18.380 I'm talking consensual sex. 0.80

03:27:21.060 Yeah. 0.86

03:27:21.460 So, the reason that I met up with my ex was because I had been assaulted.

03:27:28.220 So, that was technically my virginity.

03:27:32.620 Wait, I'm a little confused here.

03:27:35.060 The reason you met up with your ex...

03:27:37.460 Is because I wanted my first time to actually be my first time and not, like, a guy forcing himself.

03:27:45.720 Oh, wait, I'm...

03:27:46.240 Hold on.

03:27:47.300 Your ex?

03:27:48.720 But your ex is the guy who you lost your virginity to.

03:27:54.480 No, I was...

03:27:56.720 I'm confused.

03:27:58.240 I was forced to lose my virginity.

03:28:01.640 By the two-year guy?

03:28:02.940 No.

03:28:03.700 By a stranger.

03:28:04.660 Before that.

03:28:05.360 A complete stranger.

03:28:07.240 Okay.

03:28:08.900 So, after that, I sought him out because that was my first time.

03:28:18.420 I didn't consent to it.

03:28:20.440 So, I wanted something consensual.

03:28:22.060 Wait, I'm so confused.

03:28:23.780 Can I say the word?

03:28:25.540 Yeah, you got that stated.

03:28:26.840 But I'm really confused here, so...

03:28:29.460 Yes.

03:28:29.900 But, so that was your first time?

03:28:34.620 Yeah.

03:28:35.000 Because I'm talking about consensual sex? 0.90

03:28:37.840 Yes, yes. 0.77

03:28:39.040 So...

03:28:39.680 I met up with him.

03:28:40.640 I'm not sure how we got there, but I was asking, you don't remember your first real time?

03:28:48.640 No, yeah, of course.

03:28:48.740 Not sure why we had to go there.

03:28:49.920 No, I...

03:28:50.080 Not sure why we had to go there, but okay.

03:28:53.440 No, I do remember.

03:28:55.060 I thought you were saying, like, how quickly it happened.

03:28:57.840 I don't remember how quickly it happened.

03:29:00.120 Well, you said it was the same day, so, like...

03:29:01.960 Yeah.

03:29:02.460 I'm not asking for, like, the down to the second.

03:29:04.640 I'm just asking, like...

03:29:05.760 Yeah, minutes, you know.

03:29:08.620 I met up with him.

03:29:09.260 An hour, two hours, three hours?

03:29:10.960 Like, an hour.

03:29:15.600 Yeah.

03:29:17.520 Where did you meet him?

03:29:20.300 Grindr.

03:29:21.840 Hold on.

03:29:23.460 What?

03:29:23.880 I'm sorry, my story's all over the place.

03:29:25.940 There's not enough.

03:29:26.740 You're not giving me enough details here.

03:29:30.380 So...

03:29:30.980 Oh, this was into your transition, though.

03:29:33.960 Yeah.

03:29:34.120 So you were identifying as a male, or a man.

03:29:36.780 Yeah.

03:29:39.000 Okay.

03:29:40.140 Or, well, no, I mean...

03:29:41.800 Okay.

03:29:43.100 So he was on Grindr.

03:29:45.620 So he was gay. 0.53

03:29:47.180 No.

03:29:47.860 He was seeking out...

03:29:48.600 Or bi.

03:29:49.060 ...females. 1.00

03:29:50.640 On...

03:29:50.840 Wait, can...

03:29:51.640 On Grindr?

03:29:52.360 Yeah.

03:29:53.860 There's females on Grindr. 1.00

03:29:54.500 Isn't that from... 0.98

03:29:55.260 Gay? 0.83

03:29:55.520 Gay? 0.95

03:29:55.600 Gay? 0.85

03:29:56.360 Yeah.

03:29:56.960 Why?

03:29:57.640 So how was he seeking out females on Grindr?

03:29:59.600 Because there's females on Grindr. 1.00

03:30:01.640 They allow it.

03:30:03.900 That are trans? 0.99

03:30:05.460 Or that are...

03:30:06.360 That are...

03:30:07.160 Just straight females? 1.00

03:30:07.940 Pretending to be boys.

03:30:09.280 Yeah.

03:30:09.660 Just straight females pretending to be boys. 1.00

03:30:12.580 So they're trans?

03:30:13.840 Yeah.

03:30:15.320 I'm...

03:30:15.640 This is confusing.

03:30:16.480 Okay.

03:30:17.060 So he was on Grindr...

03:30:18.600 Looking for... 0.96

03:30:20.880 This guy's gay. 0.98

03:30:21.640 I'm sorry. 0.95

03:30:22.020 He's gay. 0.99

03:30:23.000 I agree. 1.00

03:30:23.720 He's probably gay. 0.99

03:30:24.480 Yeah. 0.99

03:30:25.400 Because he's on Grindr.

03:30:26.980 He said he was bi. 0.98

03:30:27.300 He's probably gay. 0.99

03:30:27.860 I mean, that's reasonable. 0.98

03:30:29.420 Yeah.

03:30:30.120 Conclusion.

03:30:32.760 So you meet on Grindr.

03:30:38.780 Did he say he was homeless?

03:30:41.160 Wait, wait, wait.

03:30:41.580 No.

03:30:41.800 He just said he was a truck driver.

03:30:43.640 Wait, so you met him...

03:30:44.880 You met him on Grindr, and then did you hang out like that day that you matched?

03:30:49.880 Yeah.

03:30:51.400 So you...

03:30:52.180 Let's do timeline here.

03:30:53.740 Okay.

03:30:54.280 Let's do timeline.

03:30:55.120 Okay.

03:30:55.680 Okay.

03:30:56.200 You got to change the split first.

03:30:58.580 And you got to move it over one.

03:31:00.220 Oh, my God.

03:31:06.420 Okay.

03:31:07.500 So you meet on Grindr.

03:31:09.940 How soon after matching on Grindr, like, do you match in the afternoon?

03:31:13.580 Um, it was, like, 8 p.m., and then we met up at, like, 3 a.m.

03:31:21.880 And so you guys were messaging for seven hours.

03:31:26.680 Yeah.

03:31:27.320 Back and forth. 0.96

03:31:31.100 And then within an hour of meeting at 3 a.m., you have sex. 0.93

03:31:37.480 Carnal knowledge.

03:31:38.260 And then, was it in his truck?

03:31:44.780 Yes.

03:31:47.120 Was it a nice truck?

03:31:49.400 It was a semi.

03:31:51.300 It was his work truck.

03:31:53.120 It was nice, actually, inside.

03:31:56.260 Did it have LED lights?

03:31:58.880 Yeah.

03:31:59.920 What color?

03:32:00.600 Red?

03:32:01.880 Orange.

03:32:02.720 Orange!

03:32:03.560 That was the red flag right there.

03:32:05.100 Orange!

03:32:05.880 LED lights.

03:32:06.700 I hear a girl say, oh, if a guy has LED lights in his room, red flag. 0.85

03:32:11.560 Orange, though. 1.00

03:32:12.160 God damn. 1.00

03:32:12.560 Okay. 1.00

03:32:13.700 Whew.

03:32:16.640 My story is wild.

03:32:17.340 This is crazy.

03:32:19.040 I can't.

03:32:19.480 I'm amazed we didn't even.

03:32:21.000 You should have told me that this is actually interesting.

03:32:23.280 You match on Grindr.

03:32:25.440 Virgin.

03:32:25.880 You're a virgin.

03:32:26.520 I know you said you got.

03:32:27.300 But we don't count that.

03:32:28.300 We won't count that.

03:32:29.360 You're a virgin.

03:32:30.160 Thank you.

03:32:30.460 Okay.

03:32:33.460 You meet him on a gay dating app. 1.00

03:32:35.040 This shit. 1.00

03:32:36.920 You can't make this shit up. 1.00

03:32:38.700 Okay. 1.00

03:32:39.000 You meet a man on a gay dating. 0.89

03:32:40.740 A homeless man on a gay dating app who's a truck driver. 0.76

03:32:46.100 You meet him at 3 a.m.

03:32:48.680 A homeless truck driver.

03:32:51.120 And then you lose your virginity to him in the truck an hour after meeting him.

03:32:56.280 This guy has the riz of the century, son.

03:32:59.820 I need to get this guy on the show.

03:33:01.740 He was very charismatic. 0.98

03:33:02.720 He has the riz, homeless, truck driver, on a gay dating app. 0.97

03:33:07.320 You'll probably sleep with him in an hour. 1.00

03:33:09.380 I couldn't talk my way into, I don't think I could talk my way into some pussy at 3 a.m. 1.00

03:33:17.080 No, he would charm. 1.00

03:33:17.880 On a gay dating app. 0.96

03:33:19.000 Bro, it's hard enough. 1.00

03:33:19.740 On a straight dating app, you can't talk your way into pussy like the same day. 1.00

03:33:23.380 But on a gay dating app, and she was a virgin. 1.00

03:33:28.320 Bro, this guy is, I don't even know what to say.

03:33:30.840 He would even seduce girls within, like, minutes, like, customers from where he would work.

03:33:37.520 Customers?

03:33:37.560 Because he also worked at a...

03:33:39.320 At the truck stop?

03:33:40.560 No, he worked at a ski resort later on.

03:33:42.940 Oh.

03:33:43.380 And he admitted to seducing girls within minutes.

03:33:47.320 Someone in my chat said, I need to get a truck.

03:33:49.940 That's the secret. 1.00

03:33:55.000 If you want a virgin, you gotta be homeless and have a fucking truck. 1.00

03:34:01.940 Just gotta get a truck, bro. 1.00

03:34:05.220 18-wheeler.

03:34:07.320 What if you get, like, one of those nice, like, self-driving...

03:34:10.000 Honestly, it sounds like, like, total serial killer vibes.

03:34:14.620 Oh, I mean...

03:34:15.800 Like, you dodged a frickin' bullet is what I'm saying, girl. 1.00

03:34:19.000 Do you realize the fucking RNG as a dude, like, RNG, to be on a fucking gay dating app 1.00

03:34:26.600 and roll the fucking dice and get a virgin to fuck you the same day you meet her? 1.00

03:34:32.640 He probably thought it was a gift from the frickin' cycle gods. 1.00

03:34:35.120 I've dated virgins. 0.85

03:34:36.200 I put in weeks of work. 0.87

03:34:38.780 This guy's homeless and has a truck, and he meets her on a gay dating app.

03:34:43.260 He really thought he had that.

03:34:44.940 Bro, come over to my truck at 3 a.m.

03:34:48.360 Where was it parked?

03:34:49.060 It finally worked.

03:34:49.640 In a 7-Eleven parking lot?

03:34:51.940 Yeah, in front of a gas station.

03:34:53.800 Oh, wow.

03:34:54.540 He had probably tried this same game, like, 80 times.

03:34:57.320 Jade. 0.78

03:34:58.080 Probably another gay guy told him to do it, and it wasn't working.

03:35:01.060 The biggest W a guy has ever taken, and simultaneously, the biggest L a girl has ever taken. 0.85

03:35:09.420 I mean, it is kind of, if you look at it that way, it's kind of like. 0.99

03:35:12.420 Holy shit. 0.98

03:35:12.820 No, it is funny. 0.99

03:35:14.080 It is hilarious.

03:35:15.040 Oh, my God.

03:35:18.400 She's got to go on those shows. 1.00

03:35:20.040 Have you guys seen, like, The Worst Ex Ever?

03:35:22.720 That's a show.

03:35:23.560 You could get on one of those episodes, The Worst Ex Ever.

03:35:26.020 I actually love it.

03:35:27.540 Desmond, this was perfect.

03:35:29.280 He tied it all together perfectly.

03:35:30.620 He just ruined everything.

03:35:32.180 You know?

03:35:32.540 He just ruined everything.

03:35:33.960 Typical woman. 1.00

03:35:34.960 This was fantastic.

03:35:36.340 It was a great story.

03:35:37.600 Oh, my gosh.

03:35:37.700 It was all tied together, and he just ruined everything. 0.96

03:35:40.340 Imagine telling our kids we met on a gay dating site. 0.99

03:35:44.320 Brutal. 1.00

03:35:44.960 Dodged a freaking bullet, girl. 1.00

03:35:46.800 Damn. 1.00

03:35:47.600 Get it, girl. 1.00

03:35:48.320 Get it. 1.00

03:35:49.440 Holy shit. 1.00

03:35:50.980 And the story. 1.00

03:35:52.020 I mean, this is a movie.

03:35:53.520 You need to get this guy on.

03:35:55.020 I'm writing a book.

03:35:56.200 Do it, girl.

03:35:56.660 He's a brave and a decent man.

03:35:58.240 He's a pioneer. 0.99

03:35:59.420 Dude, this guy's fucking pioneer. 0.99

03:36:00.680 I'm going to hook up with a publisher and an editor. 1.00

03:36:01.800 Guys, download fucking Grindr. 1.00

03:36:04.220 Get yourselves a little batty D-Trans virgin. 1.00

03:36:07.840 Oh, wait. 0.98

03:36:08.240 Wait.

03:36:08.340 This is a... 0.96

03:36:08.680 Get yourselves a batty truck stop virgin, bro. 1.00

03:36:12.020 You need the truck first.

03:36:12.760 That's crazy, dude.

03:36:14.300 You need the truck first.

03:36:14.600 They're a little disoriented.

03:36:15.700 Wait, this is all legit.

03:36:17.360 This isn't like...

03:36:17.960 Yes, I'm dead serious.

03:36:19.240 This is dead serious.

03:36:20.160 I swear to God.

03:36:20.840 She was disoriented. 0.97

03:36:21.660 Strike him down right now. 0.99

03:36:22.940 And he pounced on her like a freaking... 0.99

03:36:25.800 You can't forget... 0.97

03:36:26.260 What type of animal is that? 1.00

03:36:27.620 This is like fucking God-tier... 1.00

03:36:29.860 God-tier riz, dude. 1.00

03:36:32.520 Never...

03:36:33.080 Snatched her up. 1.00

03:36:33.780 Holy shit, bruv. 1.00

03:36:35.500 God, hide your kids. 1.00

03:36:36.900 Hide your wives. 0.99

03:36:37.960 Dude, this guy's probably on the gate.

03:36:39.920 Dude, what kind of truck are you going to get, bro?

03:36:42.480 Oh, my God.

03:36:43.860 Was the truck...

03:36:44.400 What kind of truck are you getting, Brian? 0.99

03:36:45.700 I'm getting a fucking good one, dude. 0.99

03:36:47.120 It was C.R. England. 0.99

03:36:48.520 Oh, my God.

03:36:49.220 You should call and report him to the HR.

03:36:50.720 I'm not getting second-hand.

03:36:51.460 I'm buying new.

03:36:52.380 He's in prison.

03:36:53.200 Buying new.

03:36:53.780 You got to get a new.

03:36:54.560 Okay.

03:36:54.940 Who's in prison?

03:36:55.460 He's getting hit.

03:36:55.900 He is.

03:36:56.700 Wait, he's in prison?

03:36:58.020 Yes.

03:36:58.620 For being a...

03:36:59.500 Oh, for being a Drake.

03:37:02.260 A Drake.

03:37:03.520 Oh, my God.

03:37:03.720 Oh, that's a good way to...

03:37:04.920 Okay, that's good.

03:37:06.260 That's good.

03:37:06.640 By the way...

03:37:07.660 Oh, yeah.

03:37:09.100 Kendrick Lamar, apparently, is going to be the halftime show at the Super Bowl.

03:37:13.800 Oh, this guy's going to call Drake a P-word six times at the Super Bowl.

03:37:19.640 It's the best.

03:37:19.820 That's crazy.

03:37:20.640 It's the best.

03:37:20.940 That's crazy.

03:37:21.560 Anyways.

03:37:21.660 We need accountability in this country, for God's sakes.

03:37:24.800 Dude...

03:37:25.200 Andrew tells me.

03:37:25.920 Do you guys know what RNG is?

03:37:28.460 Yeah.

03:37:29.020 Random number generator.

03:37:30.280 So, I used to play this game called Hearthstone.

03:37:32.160 It applies to other video games, too.

03:37:34.220 And RNG has to do with luck, right?

03:37:36.400 So, RNG, this is like a one-in-one-trillion, one-in-one-trillion RNG, the dude's homeless trucker who's on a gay dating app on Grindr. 0.55

03:37:55.360 There's a lid for every pot, is the point, I think. 0.99

03:38:00.300 The RNG on this is fucking... 1.00

03:38:03.640 This guy needed to go to fucking Vegas. 1.00

03:38:06.600 Stop, Desiree. 1.00

03:38:07.940 This guy needed to go to fucking Vegas and put all his fucking money on black. 1.00

03:38:13.840 Like, I'm telling you, bro. 1.00

03:38:16.540 The RNG is fucking insane. 1.00

03:38:17.680 Oh, my God. 1.00

03:38:17.700 Maybe he sold his soul to the devil.

03:38:21.200 And that was his immediate reward.

03:38:22.980 But it crashed and burned because she was smart and she left.

03:38:26.940 So, it was like...

03:38:27.880 He was actually a very lucky person.

03:38:30.960 Like, anything that went wrong for him just worked out.

03:38:34.320 Oh, my God.

03:38:34.960 That probably is...

03:38:35.700 It's kind of creepy.

03:38:36.240 Oh, that's the delusional that Andrew was talking about.

03:38:39.800 He was so delusional.

03:38:40.960 He convinced God or Satan to give him what he wanted.

03:38:44.520 And it was working for him.

03:38:46.340 Right?

03:38:46.860 This is the craziest thing I've ever heard on this show.

03:38:50.180 But now he's in prison.

03:38:51.100 Unless he was the year of the dragon or something.

03:38:53.140 Isn't it the year of the dragon?

03:38:54.520 Lucky.

03:38:55.140 Yeah.

03:38:55.740 I don't know.

03:38:56.380 Wait, question.

03:38:57.260 Yeah.

03:39:00.340 Was protection used?

03:39:02.660 No.

03:39:04.680 Again, the biggest W.

03:39:07.840 Biggest W.

03:39:08.780 Maybe God protected you.

03:39:09.880 And the biggest L.

03:39:10.980 From getting pregnant with his little spon. 1.00

03:39:13.200 He was on Grindr. 0.98

03:39:14.380 He's probably trying to do some gay for pay stuff on there. 0.96

03:39:18.280 He was probably trying to find... 0.99

03:39:19.920 Oh, my God.

03:39:21.080 Can we write him a letter from prison?

03:39:22.280 Wait, wait, wait.

03:39:23.460 Oh, my goodness.

03:39:24.340 Hold on.

03:39:25.620 The man you lost your...

03:39:27.180 You should pretend like I like him. 1.00

03:39:28.400 The man you lost your virginity to, while he was texting you, he was also like, I'll suck your dick for $50. 1.00

03:39:36.340 Yeah. 1.00

03:39:37.000 No, I believe that. 1.00

03:39:38.120 Damn, bro. 1.00

03:39:39.040 I believe that. 1.00

03:39:39.900 I believe that. 0.99

03:39:40.080 But, bitch, how lucky are you going to get something from him? 1.00

03:39:43.800 Holy shit. 1.00

03:39:45.080 No, he was trying to get me. 1.00

03:39:45.820 Wait, did he blast inside, too?

03:39:47.900 Yeah.

03:39:48.520 Were you on birth control?

03:39:50.100 No, it was the testosterone.

03:39:51.560 She was on teen.

03:39:52.180 The testosterone saved her.

03:39:54.400 Oh.

03:39:55.000 Oh, my God.

03:39:55.960 It was God uses everything for the good.

03:39:57.920 I don't care what anybody says.

03:39:59.020 Did you not get your period when you're on the gear?

03:40:03.360 No, you don't.

03:40:04.580 On the gear?

03:40:04.880 It's worse than birth control.

03:40:07.280 Yeah.

03:40:07.580 Oh, okay.

03:40:08.460 So, like...

03:40:08.840 I forgot that's what guys call it.

03:40:10.560 Their testosterone.

03:40:11.360 They call it their gear.

03:40:12.940 Like, it's in your gym bag.

03:40:15.780 It's just...

03:40:16.320 It's weird.

03:40:16.960 It's guy talk.

03:40:18.320 Wait, what is that coming out your nose, Desiree? 1.00

03:40:20.480 What the fuck was that? 0.99

03:40:21.840 I was... 1.00

03:40:22.020 Was that a cocaine booger?

03:40:24.180 You call it...

03:40:25.160 Was that a cocaine?

03:40:25.800 Snot rocket.

03:40:26.240 Snot rocket? 0.86

03:40:26.380 Was that a cocaine booger?

03:40:27.880 Oh, my God.

03:40:28.960 Holy moly. 0.56

03:40:29.660 Do you do cocaine in your nose?

03:40:31.560 I've only had people, like, do lines off of me. 1.00

03:40:33.900 What the fuck? 0.99

03:40:34.900 Okay. 1.00

03:40:35.200 With what?

03:40:36.100 If not their nose?

03:40:37.940 Oh, yeah, you're right.

03:40:39.020 Okay.

03:40:39.240 I was thinking about...

03:40:40.220 Because I've never done cocaine.

03:40:41.400 I was just thinking about in the context.

03:40:43.320 So, you couldn't have got pregnant because of the testosterone?

03:40:46.460 No.

03:40:46.580 He tried to after I got off it.

03:40:49.100 Yeah, that's a whole...

03:40:54.580 I'm processing.

03:40:55.360 It goes on and on and on.

03:40:56.560 Processing?

03:40:57.200 That's a lot.

03:40:57.740 This is crazy.

03:40:58.480 I think your life might trump mine.

03:41:01.100 That's crazy.

03:41:02.020 Okay.

03:41:02.520 It gets worse.

03:41:04.780 It really does.

03:41:06.060 Thank you.

03:41:06.600 I feel so much less alone now.

03:41:09.320 I found out he was...

03:41:10.300 Sorry, go ahead.

03:41:11.480 Go ahead.

03:41:12.000 No, I found out he was cheating while I was hospitalized, getting surgery.

03:41:17.680 Surgery?

03:41:19.120 Tauntes.

03:41:20.180 Testosterone destroyed my gallbladder, so he had to take it out.

03:41:23.520 Yeah.

03:41:24.600 That's hard to hear that.

03:41:26.500 I got some gallstones.

03:41:27.900 That's not fun.

03:41:29.380 It's not.

03:41:30.320 Horrible pain.

03:41:31.080 It's rough out there.

03:41:31.700 I know I don't get him to flush out without the surgery.

03:41:35.500 That's great.

03:41:35.760 There were so many.

03:41:37.780 Testosterone just...

03:41:38.580 Yeah.

03:41:39.020 Once you get so many, it's hard for your body to flush it out.

03:41:41.720 But there is a protocol that you can get rid of him naturally.

03:41:44.040 Can I ask you anything?

03:41:45.500 Anything.

03:41:45.940 Are you sure?

03:41:46.600 Yeah.

03:41:46.960 I'm cool with anything.

03:41:47.800 I've heard that when women... 1.00

03:41:50.840 This happens to bodybuilders.

03:41:52.860 Yeah. 0.99

03:41:54.380 The clitoris gets bigger. 1.00

03:41:58.580 Yeah, it does. 0.99

03:41:59.820 Brian loves that.

03:42:01.340 Oh my God.

03:42:02.120 Maybe this is your soulmate.

03:42:04.140 Why?

03:42:04.760 Find yourself a detransition.

03:42:06.700 She's younger.

03:42:07.880 I am a big labia enjoyer.

03:42:09.900 She's gullible. 0.97

03:42:11.620 She's freaking perfect. 0.84

03:42:12.520 It's only the clip though.

03:42:13.720 It's only the clip.

03:42:14.120 Can you do without all the makeup?

03:42:15.360 He has sensitive skin.

03:42:16.500 What happens is...

03:42:18.220 He has sensitive skin.

03:42:18.360 I mean, it depends on detransitioners.

03:42:20.860 I'm trying to hook you guys up.

03:42:22.740 Matchmaker.

03:42:23.540 Matchmaker.

03:42:24.500 I mean, you sound like you're big.

03:42:25.480 For some, it doesn't get that big.

03:42:28.440 For some, it gets really big.

03:42:30.580 You also close up inside and it stays that way.

03:42:33.780 TMI.

03:42:35.160 Wait, so you're super tight? 1.00

03:42:36.480 Wait, the pussy closes up? 1.00

03:42:38.400 From testosterone? 1.00

03:42:39.500 Yes.

03:42:40.040 Wait, why is that?

03:42:40.480 There you go, guys. 0.79

03:42:41.360 All of you who want a virginal woman. 1.00

03:42:43.580 The pussy gets tight. 1.00

03:42:44.440 You got to pick the D transitioning ones. 1.00

03:42:48.360 Permanently?

03:42:49.240 Yes.

03:42:49.780 Like fully closed?

03:42:51.320 Not fully, but it depends.

03:42:53.720 I've heard stories where it's just...

03:42:56.280 Why?

03:42:56.500 They physically cannot be intimate ever again. 1.00

03:43:00.060 Oh, damn. 0.99

03:43:01.940 It just depends on who it is. 1.00

03:43:03.800 That's crazy.

03:43:04.280 And how long they've been on it. 1.00

03:43:06.020 It's like the guys who lose their dick from steroids, basically. 1.00

03:43:10.540 Wait, so is it like it gets higher because you develop pussy muscle? 1.00

03:43:15.400 Because the testosterone... 0.98

03:43:16.820 I honestly don't know the explanation.

03:43:18.180 Oh, that probably is what it is. 1.00

03:43:18.940 Your vagina is a muscle. 1.00

03:43:20.360 That's probably what it is. 1.00

03:43:21.260 Maybe we could just have her answer.

03:43:22.520 I knew you were a genius.

03:43:23.300 Maybe we could have her answer for once, Desiree.

03:43:25.200 That'd be nice.

03:43:25.840 Sorry.

03:43:26.160 I was excited at your scientific discussion.

03:43:27.660 I don't know... 0.98

03:43:28.260 Is it pussy muscle? 1.00

03:43:29.620 It's atrophy. 0.99

03:43:30.040 The pussy muscle grows. 0.98

03:43:30.860 It's atrophy. 0.93

03:43:31.400 Atrophy?

03:43:31.760 I don't know the exact scientific reason, but it happens all the time.

03:43:37.020 This is...

03:43:37.620 I didn't even know this.

03:43:38.620 That's cool, though.

03:43:39.460 Pelvic floor drops or something like that.

03:43:40.280 That's dope. 0.93

03:43:41.280 Yeah.

03:43:41.800 I guess.

03:43:42.280 Or...

03:43:42.600 I don't know.

03:43:43.000 Anyways, Anissa, can you read this one?

03:43:47.700 Question. 0.98

03:43:49.200 Should we be attracted to slutty Halloween costumes, or are they just bait from the devil 0.99

03:43:53.780 in the skies? 0.96

03:43:54.920 Seems like a good indicator for body count.

03:43:57.600 Having asked that, what are y'all going to be this year?

03:44:02.860 Yo, Dylan.

03:44:03.440 Thank you, man. 0.98

03:44:03.840 Should we be attracted to slutty Halloween costumes, or are they just bait from the devil? 0.97

03:44:14.520 We should be attracted to them, but also rebuke. 0.98

03:44:18.260 That doesn't make sense.

03:44:19.420 Okay.

03:44:20.700 What are you going to be for Halloween this year, going around the table super quick?

03:44:23.860 I'm going to be a nun. 0.90

03:44:25.020 A naughty nun. 1.00

03:44:25.980 Okay. 0.97

03:44:26.540 Haram?

03:44:28.120 I don't know.

03:44:31.420 You're going to be a therapy client?

03:44:34.220 What would that look like?

03:44:36.080 They're always wearing robes.

03:44:37.260 You could... 0.99

03:44:38.300 The mentally ill, right? 1.00

03:44:39.400 The slippers and the robes. 0.94

03:44:40.320 Oh, true.

03:44:41.120 For some reason.

03:44:41.960 Like a straight jacket?

03:44:42.940 Yeah.

03:44:43.380 There you go.

03:44:44.240 Yeah.

03:44:44.740 Take it dark.

03:44:45.580 What about you?

03:44:46.460 You should be a truck driver for a reason.

03:44:49.480 Oh, my God.

03:44:50.360 A man one.

03:44:51.760 Like with the gear.

03:44:53.140 I'm going to be Jade from Mortal Kombat.

03:44:55.620 Oh, nice.

03:44:56.580 Okay.

03:44:56.980 I'll read this one really quick while it's up.

03:44:58.280 We'll continue with Halloween.

03:44:59.420 Seth Miller to Jade Blue Girl.

03:45:01.480 Well, if the current guy doesn't work out, I'll gladly take you on a date from Seth.

03:45:05.200 Thank you, Seth.

03:45:05.880 Appreciate the soup chat, man.

03:45:07.120 Thank you.

03:45:07.360 Thank you very much.

03:45:08.020 Appreciate it.

03:45:08.600 Send the money and they'll meet you.

03:45:10.640 Right?

03:45:11.140 Somebody just sent in a $10.

03:45:12.740 Normally, we don't read these, but it says, how much to put your head in the toilet?

03:45:16.400 I think, how much would we do that for?

03:45:18.020 Like an Ethereum?

03:45:18.720 Yeah.

03:45:19.300 Yeah.

03:45:19.500 How much to put your head in the toilet, Desiree?

03:45:22.380 Where it belongs?

03:45:22.940 Live on the whatever podcast.

03:45:24.040 Oh, I'll do it for free for the promo.

03:45:26.480 You'll do it for...

03:45:27.460 Yeah.

03:45:28.360 You'll go into whatever podcast toilet right now.

03:45:30.800 Will you guys film it and show it on wherever you can?

03:45:34.180 Your Discord or whatever?

03:45:34.940 You're really underselling yourself here, a little Desiree.

03:45:37.200 I don't have a problem with it.

03:45:38.080 Mind you, it's not...

03:45:38.980 Waterboarding?

03:45:39.580 You wouldn't get the money.

03:45:40.420 I get the money.

03:45:41.040 Water sports, they call it, or something.

03:45:42.760 It's fine.

03:45:43.960 We'll do it for a...

03:45:46.140 It has to be crypto because somebody could try to scam.

03:45:49.560 We'll do it for... 1.00

03:45:49.900 I don't trust that fucking crypto. 0.99

03:45:52.320 I'm sorry. 1.00

03:45:53.280 I'm a little old for that.

03:45:54.160 Should we do it for a Bitcoin?

03:45:55.700 No, that's too much. 1.00

03:45:56.500 Nobody's going to pay for that shit. 1.00

03:45:57.320 I just don't like all this cryptocurrency. 1.00

03:45:58.840 I'll do it for... 0.99

03:45:59.360 Barter some fucking homemade butter and a loaf of bread and some chickens, for God's sakes. 1.00

03:46:05.120 I got kids to feed. 1.00

03:46:06.580 I don't want fucking crypto. 1.00

03:46:08.520 What? 1.00

03:46:09.400 Okay.

03:46:10.200 We'll do it for one Ethereum.

03:46:11.660 I'll go in the... 1.00

03:46:12.440 Actually, I don't want to film that shit. 1.00

03:46:14.300 You don't want to film it? 1.00

03:46:15.180 It's so fun, though.

03:46:16.680 I mean...

03:46:17.580 I'll make... 0.92

03:46:18.420 The fans are kinky.

03:46:20.400 What are you talking about? 1.00

03:46:21.220 Give that fucking broad a swirly. 1.00

03:46:22.760 She deserves it more than any other broad who's ever been... 1.00

03:46:25.460 Do you want to get a wedgie?

03:46:26.580 Are you guys going to give me a wedgie?

03:46:28.140 Like, are you going to do it by my thong or something?

03:46:30.380 Like, dip me in? 1.00

03:46:31.320 Or is it, like, head pushed down in the toilet, fucking me in the ass type sexual vibe? 1.00

03:46:36.720 I don't think anybody brought that ladder part in there, Desiree. 1.00

03:46:40.760 Is it, like, school bully?

03:46:42.500 Is it, like, a school bully vibe?

03:46:43.080 Keep your fantasies to yourself, Desiree.

03:46:45.700 My fantasies?

03:46:46.420 Well, everybody knows.

03:46:47.020 I talk about fantasies openly.

03:46:48.840 I have no idea.

03:46:49.920 No idea?

03:46:50.520 No idea.

03:46:51.000 You know what you should be?

03:46:52.960 You should be...

03:46:55.240 Let's see.

03:46:56.960 Actually, I should not make...

03:46:58.960 That kind of joke.

03:47:03.180 I need to control my autism.

03:47:05.540 I want to hear that now.

03:47:07.300 See, it's hard.

03:47:08.120 I was going to say Mussolini, but that would not be...

03:47:10.600 Nah, that's just a stereotype American that speaks about Italian.

03:47:14.980 What's that?

03:47:15.720 It's kind of a stereotype of an American that speaks about Italy and Italian.

03:47:20.440 Mussolini.

03:47:21.120 That's all I know about Italy is World War II.

03:47:23.380 Picasso?

03:47:23.860 I hate to say that.

03:47:24.440 Is Picasso from Italy?

03:47:26.200 No, because they're Spanish.

03:47:28.160 Okay.

03:47:28.340 You know what you could do is a bunch of sticks tied together and then with an axe sticking out

03:47:38.200 of the top.

03:47:40.180 Where would that be?

03:47:42.080 Wait, you don't know what that is?

03:47:43.700 No.

03:47:45.000 The symbol for fascism?

03:47:47.200 Okay.

03:47:47.640 Oh, my God.

03:47:48.900 He took it deep.

03:47:50.840 He took it deep.

03:47:51.740 Isn't that what it is?

03:47:52.940 What's that thing called anyways?

03:47:54.420 See, Brian tries to...

03:47:55.200 I don't care what they say about you, Brian.

03:47:57.060 You're a smart guy.

03:47:58.720 He knows history.

03:48:00.100 See, this is why I have a crush on him.

03:48:01.720 He's not just looks.

03:48:03.380 He's also brains.

03:48:04.860 Fascies?

03:48:05.480 It's called fascies.

03:48:07.680 Oh. 0.99

03:48:07.920 And I just have to say, why the fuck do you rate yourself so low? 1.00

03:48:14.320 And you too, Andrew. 1.00

03:48:15.720 The fact that you guys even have fucking jobs right now? 0.99

03:48:20.220 No, no. 0.99

03:48:20.760 Well, you have to understand, in our defense, the reason you think that it's a low rating,

03:48:27.460 see, I distinctly think that you just give yourself a really high rating.

03:48:33.500 Well, I am.

03:48:34.340 See, I think that I am more handsome.

03:48:36.380 I am the number one only fan, no fog in the world.

03:48:40.540 I just think that you rate yourself way higher than what your beauty is.

03:48:44.820 Andrew called me beautiful.

03:48:49.480 Mic drop.

03:48:50.800 I...

03:48:51.320 Can I...

03:48:52.160 I...

03:48:52.820 Andrew, I now feel safe in your presence because there's some sort of redeeming quality that

03:49:02.140 you see in me. 0.99

03:49:02.960 Perhaps it's just a $5 gas station pin-up poster to put in your fucking garage, but I'll take 1.00

03:49:13.340 it. 1.00

03:49:14.320 I'll take it.

03:49:16.160 I have a classic car photo shoot coming up, so that'll be some good content.

03:49:19.600 Can you even repeat back to me what I said to you?

03:49:23.300 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

03:49:24.480 You're beautiful. 1.00

03:49:24.980 Yeah, you don't even fucking know. 0.99

03:49:26.820 That's how dance and tarted you are. 1.00

03:49:29.280 You don't even fucking know what I just said to you. 0.97

03:49:30.940 But, Andrew, I just grabbed at the one thing you've ever said to me. 0.99

03:49:35.380 Yeah, you're always going to grab at anything you can grab at.

03:49:39.060 And that made me feel safe in your presence.

03:49:41.320 Leave so close, you Desiree.

03:49:41.540 Don't even try.

03:49:42.680 Leagues above you.

03:49:44.040 There would never be a shot in hell. 0.96

03:49:45.480 Honestly, I would go for you.

03:49:47.620 No disrespect to Rachel.

03:49:49.620 But I'm going to say it to you.

03:49:50.680 Rachel, I'm not trying to steal your man.

03:49:52.040 I'm trying to steal this one.

03:49:53.160 I am way too good for you, Desiree.

03:49:54.460 I am way too good for you. 0.80

03:49:56.180 But I'm a slave.

03:49:56.600 By every metric conceivable.

03:49:58.720 But I'm a slave. 0.95

03:49:59.240 I'm too good for you.

03:50:00.060 So I always look for a guy that I feel is above me because then it draws, it naturally drops

03:50:08.480 me into the submissive role.

03:50:09.600 And I just feel like that's a more sexy dynamic, personally.

03:50:12.880 That's beautiful.

03:50:13.180 I like it.

03:50:14.160 That's great.

03:50:14.860 Thank you, Desiree.

03:50:15.700 So you guys are both better than me.

03:50:17.220 Can we pull up the thing really quick, Austin?

03:50:20.460 Oh, F11.

03:50:21.140 You've got to be F11, then.

03:50:24.140 Okay.

03:50:24.760 So this could be your costume?

03:50:28.500 I didn't think so, but yeah.

03:50:29.100 Okay. 0.99

03:50:29.340 This is so dumb. 0.99

03:50:30.260 All right. 0.99

03:50:30.980 Okay.

03:50:31.440 What about you, Morgan?

03:50:32.440 What's your Halloween costume going to be?

03:50:34.820 Into the mic.

03:50:36.040 I don't know.

03:50:36.920 You tell me.

03:50:38.040 You should be a soccer player.

03:50:42.320 What about you?

03:50:43.660 Halloween costume?

03:50:44.260 I want to be Beetlejuice's ex-wife.

03:50:46.940 I don't know if this is like spoiler alert, but yeah.

03:50:49.320 Oh, that, she's a good one with the stitches. 1.00

03:50:53.160 Yes.

03:50:53.660 I like her.

03:50:54.520 Lara Croft.

03:50:55.560 Okay.

03:50:56.420 What about Anissa?

03:50:57.560 I want to do a couple costume, maybe.

03:51:01.720 Are you waiting until he decides what he wants to do?

03:51:04.680 I don't like planning, so it's just like a thought.

03:51:07.660 A couple costume.

03:51:08.680 All right.

03:51:09.100 And then we have Warlord69.

03:51:14.000 It will.

03:51:15.100 Can you read this one that's coming up?

03:51:19.380 Ryan07, Andrew, God bless you.

03:51:22.300 You are not appreciated enough, and I'm here to show it. 0.99

03:51:25.160 Ladies, go back in time and murder baby Hitler or ban abortion. 1.00

03:51:29.300 All right. 1.00

03:51:30.680 Thank you, Warlord69.

03:51:32.920 Appreciate the message.

03:51:34.460 That's not a bad question. 0.99

03:51:35.440 So murder baby Hitler or ban abortion? 0.99

03:51:37.920 Which do you pick? 1.00

03:51:38.900 Starting with you, Desiree.

03:51:39.780 Quick answer.

03:51:40.640 Oh, God.

03:51:41.740 Oh, it's hard.

03:51:42.680 Yeah.

03:51:42.720 So I have found that I am from Hitler's family line.

03:51:47.620 Holy.

03:51:48.240 Okay.

03:51:48.740 Hold on.

03:51:49.320 Hold on.

03:51:49.760 Hold on. 1.00

03:51:50.020 It's my mom's fucking side. 1.00

03:51:52.000 The Germans. 1.00

03:51:52.700 That's where I get the ass. 1.00

03:51:53.980 It's from the Hitler line. 1.00

03:51:54.960 Wait, wait.

03:51:55.380 Hold on.

03:51:55.780 No, no, no.

03:51:56.300 Hold on.

03:51:56.820 Hold on.

03:51:57.240 Wait, no, no, there's plenty of German. 1.00

03:51:59.320 Wait, there's plenty of German women who have nice asses. 1.00

03:52:01.060 Now the whole fucking country knows. 1.00

03:52:01.980 Wait, so you can't. 1.00

03:52:02.820 That can't be it.

03:52:03.640 Hold on.

03:52:04.440 No, no, no.

03:52:04.880 Hold on.

03:52:05.140 I went and did my DNA testing.

03:52:07.640 No.

03:52:07.840 Hold on, Desiree.

03:52:09.340 You realize that when it comes to, like, the parentage and genetics.

03:52:14.660 So for me, it's the same choice.

03:52:16.640 I would have been aborted.

03:52:18.420 Can you silence yourself? 0.98

03:52:20.060 Okay.

03:52:20.860 So you realize that when it comes to, like, finding out family, like,

03:52:25.900 Hitler's children, it's, like, the most investigated, like, thing that they've ever done on this topic.

03:52:35.920 Can you not grab the mic?

03:52:36.980 I've slipped.

03:52:38.080 I have slipped through the radar.

03:52:39.480 You're not related. 0.99

03:52:40.320 Listen, crazy lady. 1.00

03:52:41.600 You're not related to Hitler. 0.99

03:52:43.020 No.

03:52:43.800 You're not related to Hitler.

03:52:44.900 You realize the amount?

03:52:45.760 The sex workers who migrated from Germany during World War II would say otherwise.

03:52:57.320 So.

03:52:57.640 You do?

03:52:58.060 Okay.

03:52:58.340 So here's what.

03:52:59.440 Oh, my God. 1.00

03:53:00.100 This is such bullshit. 1.00

03:53:01.520 So Hitler does have, like, some living relatives. 1.00

03:53:06.320 Actually, I think they even live in the United States. 1.00

03:53:08.420 There's legitimate heirs, and there's bastards. 0.98

03:53:12.900 Right, but you would have a genetic relationship. 0.99

03:53:15.580 I do.

03:53:16.360 I do have the genetic line. 0.99

03:53:17.560 How did you come to the determination that you're related to Hitler, you insane lady? 0.99

03:53:23.440 Good question. 0.97

03:53:24.600 How did you come to that realization, Desiree?

03:53:27.340 I can't wait to hear it.

03:53:28.800 Well, on one of the episodes I did, you guys opened it up to the fans to do DNA testing,

03:53:36.880 and we had one who was very interested in my exact, exact ancestry line. 0.73

03:53:45.860 So they actually paid who knows how much fucking money to have all this tested. 0.98

03:53:52.540 Now, I do concede that it might be a troll. 0.99

03:53:55.440 It might have been a troll, and they said that they were going to be a troll.

03:53:57.740 I want evidence, Desiree.

03:53:59.240 I want evidence. 1.00

03:54:00.300 You're lying through your fucking teeth. 1.00

03:54:01.640 This never happened. 1.00

03:54:02.860 Never happened.

03:54:03.380 This literally never happened.

03:54:05.400 You're lying through your teeth.

03:54:07.160 Show me.

03:54:07.720 I'll tell you what, Desiree.

03:54:08.740 Show me a single piece of evidence that this actually happened.

03:54:12.020 I'll send $100 to you right now.

03:54:14.360 Will you subscribe to my OnlyFans?

03:54:15.920 No, I want you to send me the evidence that's happened.

03:54:18.340 OnlyFans.com slash Desiree Noelle. 0.94

03:54:18.820 I already gave you the terms.

03:54:20.040 Don't obfuscate.

03:54:21.440 Show me that this actually happened, that a fan of yours linked you to Adolf Hitler.

03:54:26.420 Go ahead.

03:54:26.920 All right.

03:54:27.260 I'll have to bring the document.

03:54:28.400 I'll have to bring the document next time.

03:54:30.020 I didn't bring the document.

03:54:30.960 What document?

03:54:31.620 Yeah.

03:54:32.060 You didn't bring any document because it doesn't exist.

03:54:34.440 You're lying through your teeth.

03:54:35.280 They mail you your document of your ancestry line.

03:54:38.500 So I have to bring the document.

03:54:41.460 You mean they don't email it in 2024?

03:54:45.080 Yeah, right.

03:54:45.680 Not when they find out you're of the Hitler line. 0.62

03:54:48.240 Oh, yeah.

03:54:48.620 They mailed it to you.

03:54:49.620 Did they send a snail mail?

03:54:51.360 Did they put a little post stamp on it for you, Desiree?

03:54:55.320 They sent it to my corporate mailbox, yes.

03:55:00.820 Uh-huh.

03:55:01.320 Sure they did.

03:55:02.300 And you didn't take a single picture of it with your phone, nothing like that.

03:55:06.260 Right?

03:55:06.560 You take pictures of men jizzing on your face, but you don't take pictures of this pertinent

03:55:10.640 document that relates you to one of the, you know.

03:55:15.440 It's crazy.

03:55:16.120 Have you heard of a little thing called cyber security?

03:55:20.120 You don't do that?

03:55:21.100 Cyber security.

03:55:22.580 Okay.

03:55:22.700 I guess I have a little programming from my friends in cyber security who tell me not

03:55:28.620 to take photos of important documents, so I don't. 0.98

03:55:31.940 Why don't you just be honest and say that you just made all of this bullshit up? 1.00

03:55:36.220 It's all bullshit. 1.00

03:55:37.220 It's all made up. 1.00

03:55:37.780 I just made all of this up. 0.64

03:55:39.640 Yeah, you just made it all the fuck up.

03:55:41.500 It's called.

03:55:42.180 Can't help yourself.

03:55:43.220 It's just called clickbait.

03:55:44.380 Total attention grabbing. 1.00

03:55:45.980 You made the whole fucking thing up. 1.00

03:55:47.560 You don't have a shred of proof, do you? 1.00

03:55:49.180 Not a shred.

03:55:50.580 Not a shred.

03:55:51.300 Not a shred.

03:55:53.720 Not a shred.

03:55:54.860 Okay.

03:55:55.700 Okay.

03:55:56.260 All right.

03:55:57.520 We're going to go around the table.

03:55:59.280 Stifler.

03:56:01.260 Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.

03:56:04.280 You can't pick seven.

03:56:06.440 Go ahead, Desiree.

03:56:08.420 Okay.

03:56:10.840 Looks.

03:56:11.980 Yeah, looks.

03:56:12.620 And sex appeal.

03:56:13.260 I'm going to do two.

03:56:14.160 I'm adding sex appeal.

03:56:15.160 How about just, let's do looks.

03:56:17.160 Okay, looks.

03:56:17.800 Plus, I'm a negative a thousand billion infinity.

03:56:20.520 Just answer the question.

03:56:22.300 Like, like.

03:56:23.620 Negative.

03:56:24.900 Yeah.

03:56:25.520 Everybody hates me.

03:56:26.840 Can, why don't you just answer the question?

03:56:29.220 One to ten.

03:56:30.720 Oh, one to ten.

03:56:31.640 One.

03:56:32.100 Then.

03:56:32.500 If that's the lowest, you can't do zero.

03:56:34.800 Okay.

03:56:35.420 All right.

03:56:35.700 She's a one.

03:56:36.260 All right.

03:56:36.560 What about you, Vivian?

03:56:37.840 Like, to me, myself.

03:56:39.520 What do you think you, like, where you fall?

03:56:44.860 Oh, okay.

03:56:45.780 Uh, five.

03:56:46.860 Okay.

03:56:48.180 Four.

03:56:49.380 Okay.

03:56:51.640 I'm pretty confident, so I say eight.

03:56:55.020 Eight?

03:56:55.480 Okay.

03:56:55.800 Yeah.

03:56:56.380 Eight.

03:56:57.820 Yeah, I would say, like, a nine.

03:57:00.240 Nine?

03:57:00.900 Yeah.

03:57:04.240 Five.

03:57:06.320 I give myself a five, Andrew.

03:57:09.520 I'm, like, a four point five right now, to be honest.

03:57:11.420 I give myself.

03:57:12.620 Hide it.

03:57:13.140 Well, well, okay.

03:57:14.400 So, I did say that I am better looking.

03:57:16.960 All right.

03:57:17.140 Well, I am more handsome than Desiree is beautiful, so I give myself a two.

03:57:22.420 Hmm.

03:57:23.080 I like it.

03:57:23.760 I like the logic.

03:57:24.820 Good job.

03:57:27.300 Um.

03:57:27.740 Moment of silence.

03:57:50.800 Andrew does this, right?

03:57:52.260 How does it go?

03:57:54.220 Where's the crickets?

03:57:55.060 Oh, yeah.

03:57:56.780 Come on.

03:57:57.060 Don't you have a sound effect?

03:57:58.780 You have to have a sound effect.

03:58:00.600 You have every sound effect.

03:58:03.540 Nine?

03:58:05.040 I was going to say 9.5, but I dropped it to a nine.

03:58:07.660 You humbled yourself a little bit. 1.00

03:58:09.160 Look at the fucking hair, though. 1.00

03:58:10.600 You do it fucking masterfully. 1.00

03:58:14.460 Okay? 0.99

03:58:14.960 So, I would say you're a nine. 0.99

03:58:16.780 Thank you.

03:58:17.440 Thank you.

03:58:17.600 You're welcome. 0.99

03:58:17.980 It's fucking art. 0.99

03:58:19.820 It's not easy to have curly hair, okay? 0.99

03:58:22.480 I have gone through it, because my daughter, my ex-husband had afro hair, even though he

03:58:26.980 is Irish.

03:58:27.940 Oh, boy.

03:58:28.260 He's red Irish.

03:58:29.380 It's a hassle for you guys.

03:58:32.000 Bro, Desiree, chill out.

03:58:32.940 I'm just saying, if you go natural hair, and you have very curly hair, you have my total

03:58:39.900 respect, because I've seen people struggle with it, is all I'm saying.

03:58:43.220 Did you have your moment?

03:58:45.900 I was admiring her hair.

03:58:47.480 Maybe I'm a little jealous of the fro hair, because it's cool.

03:58:50.500 The real Rachel doll is all over here.

03:58:52.440 My 70s vibe is, I'm jealous of the hair, I guess.

03:58:55.540 Really?

03:59:00.340 So, what do you rate me?

03:59:01.940 I'm just curious.

03:59:04.000 Can you move your head, Desiree?

03:59:05.180 You're in frame.

03:59:05.800 Get your head out there. 1.00

03:59:07.240 Get your fucking head out of the frame. 1.00

03:59:10.920 That's what she said. 1.00

03:59:11.800 I would say, like, a seven, because I'm a seven or eight, because I'm a real big beard

03:59:15.160 fan.

03:59:15.500 Can you tilt the mic down a little bit, and just speak into the mic?

03:59:18.840 Sorry, you rate me what?

03:59:20.760 Like, 7.5 or 8, but that's because I like beards, so.

03:59:24.840 What if I shaved my beard, what would I be?

03:59:26.620 Okay, then I'll probably drop you down.

03:59:28.200 To like a, to what?

03:59:30.580 To like a five.

03:59:31.540 To a five?

03:59:32.240 Five.

03:59:33.140 9.5?

03:59:33.820 Very important.

03:59:34.800 But so, like, you would be, even with the beard, you would be settling for me.

03:59:40.460 What do you mean?

03:59:41.780 Well, you're a 9.5, right?

03:59:42.860 And I'm just a measly seven to you, right?

03:59:45.840 With the beard.

03:59:47.140 So, just like curious, like, do you think you'd be, like, settling for me or whatever?

03:59:50.700 No, never.

03:59:52.060 But, I mean, you're a 9.5, and I'm, like, a seven.

03:59:54.520 Why does, like, if I think a 9.5, I'd be settling for a seven, why would you think that

04:00:00.380 would be settling?

04:00:01.340 I don't look really go for looks anyway.

04:00:03.900 They're too superficial for me.

04:00:05.180 Well, let's say you don't care about looks at all, but would you agree that on the looks

04:00:09.440 front, from an outside perspective, you would be settling?

04:00:14.680 Since you're a 9.5, and I'm just, like, a seven or whatever, like, an ugly seven.

04:00:18.960 No, I don't think I'd be settling.

04:00:26.440 Would you think I would be settling?

04:00:28.480 Well, I mean, just your entire framework.

04:00:31.060 Like, you say you're a 9.5, I'm a seven over here.

04:00:35.560 You would be settling.

04:00:37.060 I said it's seven slash eight.

04:00:39.760 So, you're up there.

04:00:40.460 No, you can't raise it.

04:00:41.140 You can't bump it up.

04:00:42.280 It was a seven.

04:00:44.360 Who knows?

04:00:44.940 Maybe one day I decide to shave.

04:00:46.440 Actually, speaking of, Austin, can you pull up old Brian?

04:00:51.480 Young Brian, I guess.

04:00:52.500 Not old Brian.

04:00:53.220 He was so cute.

04:00:54.800 Young Brian.

04:00:54.880 You were so cute.

04:00:56.080 The Instagram, F11.

04:00:58.520 Just make sure it's F11, please.

04:01:01.060 Just scroll to the bottom of my Instagram, my personal IG, window tab.

04:01:07.180 You had quite a transformation.

04:01:09.060 All right.

04:01:09.400 That's a huge transformation, right?

04:01:11.420 Click on the one with the whatever tank top.

04:01:15.400 All right.

04:01:15.700 There's me without a beard.

04:01:17.000 Like, this is from, this is over 10.

04:01:19.820 This is 2012.

04:01:22.440 Was this your favorite look of yourself?

04:01:23.240 This is 2012.

04:01:24.040 What's your favorite look of yourself?

04:01:25.660 Like, where do you feel the sexiest?

04:01:26.980 That's me, bro.

04:01:27.960 Did you, didn't you like yourself?

04:01:29.900 Yeah, I know. 1.00

04:01:30.560 I got, oh, bro, shit sucks, dude. 1.00

04:01:34.760 No, it doesn't. 1.00

04:01:36.100 Why would you think? 1.00

04:01:37.040 Shit sucks. 1.00

04:01:38.140 You have, obviously, biological attractiveness. 1.00

04:01:41.260 12 years.

04:01:41.760 12 years ago.

04:01:42.660 But now you're like a man. 0.75

04:01:43.240 You're more sexy now.

04:01:44.860 You weren't sexy then. 0.74

04:01:46.420 I'm fat now, dude. 0.81

04:01:46.980 What are you talking about?

04:01:47.760 But you're sexy.

04:01:49.200 I'm chubby.

04:01:49.400 But it doesn't matter.

04:01:51.380 I'm chubby.

04:01:52.040 We're all chubby when we get older.

04:01:53.700 I have a dad bod.

04:01:54.280 I got a dad bod.

04:01:55.440 I have a mom bod.

04:01:56.820 Nobody cares.

04:01:58.220 Like, we're all aging.

04:02:00.560 And I think they're changing. 1.00

04:02:01.900 Oh, shit. 1.00

04:02:02.760 Mute her. 1.00

04:02:03.460 Frickin' mic. 0.98

04:02:04.080 Noah.

04:02:05.360 $1,500.

04:02:06.260 Mute.

04:02:06.660 Do you know how to do it?

04:02:07.940 My ears.

04:02:08.620 Okay.

04:02:09.140 Nine?

04:02:09.500 I'm pretty sure.

04:02:10.080 Hang on.

04:02:10.420 Hang on.

04:02:10.900 I have to say, on behalf of Noah R., he is a legend in every conceivable way.

04:02:19.500 Absolutely.

04:02:19.900 Noah has some of the funniest super chats I've ever heard.

04:02:23.600 He sends them into whatever.

04:02:24.840 He also sends them into the Crucible.

04:02:26.580 And thank you, Noah, for that $500. 0.98

04:02:29.820 Can we just get this chick to shut the fuck up so we can get to the rest of the panel? 1.00

04:02:33.640 Damn, dude. 1.00

04:02:34.120 Bunch of nice ladies here. 1.00

04:02:35.960 Bunch of nice ladies came in. 1.00

04:02:38.020 We've been very interested in their stories.

04:02:39.960 And she's done nothing but obfuscate and make everything about her. 0.99

04:02:44.140 It's true.

04:02:44.380 Now you're muted. 1.00

04:02:45.340 And you fucking deserve it, Desiree. 1.00

04:02:47.940 Is it muted? 1.00

04:02:48.700 Yeah.

04:02:49.620 Is it number nine?

04:02:51.020 Yeah.

04:02:53.520 Yeah, I think.

04:02:54.280 By the way, Crucible crew, get over to the whatever. 0.99

04:02:56.920 Get over here. 0.99

04:02:57.980 Put W's in.

04:02:59.060 Put W's in for Noah. 0.93

04:03:01.160 Man, he deserves all of them.

04:03:03.040 He's a brave and a decent man.

04:03:04.460 He's a brave and a decent man. 1.00

04:03:05.860 And also, also, he has a huge penis. 1.00

04:03:11.160 Huge. 1.00

04:03:12.960 Giant.

04:03:15.280 Like, huge.

04:03:17.440 Is this visually confirmed?

04:03:19.900 Oh.

04:03:21.440 Yes.

04:03:22.880 He sent a woman to the hospital once.

04:03:25.180 How big it was.

04:03:26.480 He told me. 1.00

04:03:27.840 He's like, Brian, my penis is so big, a woman had to go to the hospital because of how big 1.00

04:03:35.440 it was. 1.00

04:03:36.240 Oh.

04:03:37.060 Okay.

04:03:38.320 Okay.

04:03:38.980 All right.

04:03:39.540 Where were we?

04:03:41.820 Okay.

04:03:42.280 Going around the table.

04:03:43.420 Oh, wait.

04:03:44.180 We'll come back.

04:03:45.560 Oh, the rating thing.

04:03:47.000 I need to wait until the gals are back at the table. 1.00

04:03:50.100 But we'll get into.

04:03:52.520 And that's a 10-minute mute if you can just keep track of the time.

04:03:56.040 Thank you, Noah.

04:03:56.900 You're a good man.

04:03:58.280 Wait.

04:03:58.520 Wait.

04:03:58.740 I'm sorry.

04:03:59.180 We have to start the 10 minutes now, though.

04:04:02.940 Yeah.

04:04:03.820 Yeah.

04:04:04.560 Yeah.

04:04:05.320 Yeah.

04:04:05.940 Of course.

04:04:07.380 All right.

04:04:08.080 Where were we?

04:04:08.780 Let's get to more.

04:04:09.780 Let's do some of the reacts, I guess.

04:04:12.180 Wait.

04:04:12.340 No, no, no.

04:04:12.620 We have to do.

04:04:14.700 Here.

04:04:15.100 We'll just do this.

04:04:15.780 Do you think.

04:04:16.780 What?

04:04:17.540 Is it quick?

04:04:18.140 I have to pee.

04:04:18.760 I'm sorry.

04:04:19.040 You have to go number two?

04:04:20.380 I have frequent.

04:04:21.020 No.

04:04:21.480 You have frequent.

04:04:22.040 You got bladder?

04:04:22.800 Frequent.

04:04:23.100 I just drink a lot of caffeine.

04:04:24.960 Oh, okay.

04:04:26.020 Right.

04:04:26.320 You drink caffeine?

04:04:27.240 Because you've been kind of mellow this entire show.

04:04:29.800 I feel like I've been pretty.

04:04:31.600 No, I feel like I just got tired.

04:04:34.960 But I was pretty high on my feet.

04:04:36.480 Yeah, go ahead.

04:04:37.060 Go ahead.

04:04:37.620 I'll wait until you're back.

04:04:39.280 I will wait until she's back.

04:04:42.980 All right.

04:04:43.500 Well, Brian, is there anything else we can do for them, really?

04:04:46.240 That's the question.

04:04:47.680 For them?

04:04:48.560 What do you mean?

04:04:49.040 Yeah.

04:04:49.300 Is there anything else we can do for her?

04:04:52.060 When you say them.

04:04:52.780 Anything else we can do for any of the women on the panel to accommodate their needs, Brian?

04:04:56.460 Is there anything else we can do for them?

04:04:59.080 Probably.

04:04:59.920 That's very thoughtful.

04:05:00.920 Thank you.

04:05:03.340 Probably.

04:05:04.420 All right.

04:05:05.240 Let's see here.

04:05:06.080 Where are we?

04:05:06.960 Let's get back into the reactions, too, for Jade.

04:05:10.820 Do we have more tweets?

04:05:11.980 Yeah.

04:05:12.580 Let's do the tweets.

04:05:13.760 We got more tweets, Jade.

04:05:14.920 Uh-oh.

04:05:15.800 Oh, Jade bringing in man or bear. 0.94

04:05:18.620 She must watch the show.

04:05:19.680 Is the man hot?

04:05:23.160 Which leads us.

04:05:24.240 Oh, well, we got to wait until Vivian's back.

04:05:27.220 We'll wait for the.

04:05:28.200 We'll come back to the man or bear thing next.

04:05:31.880 We'll come back to it.

04:05:32.860 I'll write that down.

04:05:33.620 Man or bear?

04:05:34.700 Oh, man.

04:05:35.320 Why do non-white girls who date white men make everything? 1.00

04:05:41.320 Oh, zoom it out a bit so we can see what she's reacting to. 0.98

04:05:46.400 So I'm assuming.

04:05:47.200 Is this an Asian woman? 1.00

04:05:48.600 Probably.

04:05:49.100 Or no, Indian. 1.00

04:05:49.740 Excuse me.

04:05:51.000 They're Asian.

04:05:51.660 When you bring your white boyfriend to his birthday or first Indian party, this is a canon. 1.00

04:05:56.860 First off, isn't canon spelled with one N?

04:05:59.860 One N.

04:06:00.560 One N.

04:06:00.600 One N.

04:06:02.300 What is a canon event, by the way?

04:06:04.480 I kind of have a sense of what it means.

04:06:06.740 It's part of the regular timeline.

04:06:07.120 Into the Spider-Verse, right?

04:06:09.580 Is that where it's from?

04:06:10.220 I thought a canon event is like a major event in your life.

04:06:14.160 It's a Spider-Man reference.

04:06:16.260 It's a turning point.

04:06:17.600 Like a thing that has to happen in order for the next thing to happen.

04:06:20.840 Okay.

04:06:21.180 Or write a passage.

04:06:22.060 Write a passage.

04:06:22.680 Like, for example, her.

04:06:23.860 It's based off.

04:06:24.960 Yeah, her reference in Spider-Man.

04:06:27.260 Yeah.

04:06:28.060 Pull it back up really quick.

04:06:29.200 Or no, Uncle Ben dying.

04:06:30.680 Scroll up to the top.

04:06:31.760 Now, this is a based, make it bigger.

04:06:35.500 Why do non-white girls who date white men? 1.00

04:06:37.720 I've noticed this a lot on TikTok.

04:06:39.600 I agree with you, Jade.

04:06:42.260 They always got to like bring up the fact, like they got to point out.

04:06:45.540 It's always the liberal.

04:06:47.120 My boyfriend's white.

04:06:49.040 It's like, that's kind of weird to point out.

04:06:51.940 You know?

04:06:52.420 I prefer white men, but I just, why is that always a topic?

04:06:56.700 I wouldn't make my relationship.

04:06:59.660 I think it's weird.

04:07:00.400 I agree.

04:07:00.740 I agree with your tweet.

04:07:01.920 Yeah.

04:07:02.400 I agree with your tweet.

04:07:03.800 Wouldn't pointing out that he's white initially be racist anyway?

04:07:07.060 Yeah.

04:07:07.540 Would he, would, an example, if I had a boyfriend, it'd be kind of weird if he constantly pointed

04:07:12.660 out that I was Mexican.

04:07:15.620 You're Mexican?

04:07:17.260 Yeah.

04:07:21.620 I don't know.

04:07:22.700 It's just kind of weird.

04:07:24.320 You're, like, were you born there?

04:07:26.740 My parents were.

04:07:28.060 Sweet.

04:07:29.680 Yeah.

04:07:30.060 I was, my, my dad was born in Africa and my mom was born in America.

04:07:36.100 So I'm African American.

04:07:38.700 Oh my God.

04:07:41.860 Okay.

04:07:43.980 Right?

04:07:44.720 No.

04:07:45.320 No?

04:07:45.760 No.

04:07:46.220 Does that not work? 1.00

04:07:49.480 What the fuck? 1.00

04:07:49.940 Were your grandparents from, were your grandparents from Africa? 1.00

04:07:54.740 Yeah.

04:07:56.060 Or, yeah.

04:07:57.060 Yeah.

04:07:57.520 My grandma.

04:07:58.340 Oh, okay.

04:07:58.680 RIP.

04:07:59.340 Oh, okay.

04:07:59.980 Oh, they.

04:08:00.440 Weren't there, like, French people there in Africa, right?

04:08:03.200 Yeah.

04:08:03.480 They were migrating?

04:08:04.260 There was some, there's some, les Français.

04:08:08.100 Les Français, they called them, whatever, I'm not going to get into the whole.

04:08:12.160 Is anybody actually black in here, generally?

04:08:15.620 No.

04:08:15.980 Like, the skin color? 0.65

04:08:16.840 So they're all white?

04:08:18.300 Well, hang on.

04:08:19.180 Hang on.

04:08:19.640 Desiree.

04:08:20.160 Desiree, your mic is muted.

04:08:21.620 Yeah, stop talking, bro.

04:08:23.120 Still, still, you're talking.

04:08:24.280 Rude.

04:08:24.620 Your mic muted.

04:08:25.860 Show some respect to Noah R. 0.95

04:08:28.560 Can you put my head in the toilet? 0.93

04:08:30.100 No respect. 0.98

04:08:31.260 No respect.

04:08:32.900 Next tweet.

04:08:34.000 Next tweet.

04:08:34.920 We'll get through them.

04:08:35.820 We'll blast through.

04:08:37.400 Jade's got some based, let's make it bigger. 1.00

04:08:41.460 Oh, this is, scroll all the way up, scroll up.

04:08:44.880 I'm appearing on the whatever podcast, scroll down.

04:08:48.360 I'm not concerned because I'm not a thought.

04:08:52.240 That's valid.

04:08:55.500 You didn't get, it wasn't too bad.

04:08:58.220 I mean, I kind of wasn't.

04:08:58.960 That was a brilliant exchange.

04:09:01.720 So, so what happens is, oftentimes, women, for instance, like Desiree over here, they 1.00

04:09:08.580 get made a fool of on whatever because, you know, they're fucking stupid. 1.00

04:09:12.700 But occasionally, we get a base chick who comes through who has great things to say, and 1.00

04:09:18.420 we like to hear from her.

04:09:19.840 So, here Brian is.

04:09:21.860 You get your entire life story, right?

04:09:24.820 Nobody's being mean to you.

04:09:26.060 It's all great, et cetera, et cetera.

04:09:28.260 Laura, possibly, this chick may have even been a guest here and just been salty that you 1.00

04:09:35.200 were coming on because you might get some attention that she would never get.

04:09:39.940 I'm just, just pointing that out.

04:09:41.400 Could be.

04:09:42.520 I was a little toxic to Jade.

04:09:44.860 I was like a little toxic to Jade.

04:09:46.960 No.

04:09:47.300 What was the toxicity?

04:09:49.380 I was like kind of poking.

04:09:50.820 Jade, Jade, was he toxic?

04:09:52.480 No, I didn't feel poked.

04:09:53.220 No.

04:09:54.040 Oh, no, he wasn't toxic.

04:09:55.460 He felt guilty about it.

04:09:57.360 That's cute.

04:09:57.980 Oh.

04:09:58.900 All you did was get her story, Brian.

04:10:01.060 Wait, what's that?

04:10:01.600 Yeah.

04:10:02.500 All you did was get her story.

04:10:03.840 Yeah, I didn't feel.

04:10:05.140 Well, I mean, I was like, you know, I was asking a couple of questions.

04:10:08.800 Probing questions.

04:10:09.480 I mean, that's the point.

04:10:10.040 A couple of probing questions.

04:10:11.720 For clarity. 0.99

04:10:12.480 I did ask if she had an enlarged clitoris. 1.00

04:10:14.920 That might have been a bit inappropriate. 0.99

04:10:16.000 Okay, okay.

04:10:16.620 Hang on, hang on, Brian.

04:10:17.600 A little inappropriate.

04:10:18.380 But hang on, you are raising funds for BLM, which is Big Labia Matters, which I am told

04:10:25.600 I am the vice president of.

04:10:26.940 This is true.

04:10:27.540 And if that is the case, then why shouldn't you ask that question?

04:10:32.420 Desiree, don't interrupt Andrew.

04:10:33.860 Go ahead, Andrew.

04:10:34.480 Yeah, that's right, Desiree.

04:10:35.700 Rude.

04:10:36.780 Your mic is muted and you're still interrupting.

04:10:39.320 But anyway, Brian.

04:10:41.280 Desiree, Desiree, this is what I need you to do.

04:10:43.180 Can you tell us about BLM?

04:10:44.700 Can you tell us about Big Labia Matters? 0.72

04:10:47.180 You need to wear the hat and you need to go stand in the corner and face the corner

04:10:52.520 for five minutes. 1.00

04:10:52.980 In the fucking corner, Desiree. 1.00

04:10:54.380 In the corner. 1.00

04:10:55.600 Wear the hat.

04:10:56.620 You can wear the hat.

04:10:58.660 Go stand it.

04:10:59.240 Face the corner, though.

04:11:00.060 You got to face the corner.

04:11:01.460 Forward.

04:11:02.060 I'm a black sheep.

04:11:03.560 All right.

04:11:03.840 Unreal.

04:11:04.680 Unreal.

04:11:04.880 I'm a divergent.

04:11:06.060 Okay, just go face the corner and think about what you've done.

04:11:08.740 We have these fantastic guests.

04:11:10.300 We've been trying to hear from all evening.

04:11:12.440 No.

04:11:12.680 Brian has been.

04:11:13.560 Can I lap, Dan?

04:11:14.400 No.

04:11:14.780 To the corner, Desiree.

04:11:16.180 Oh, jeez.

04:11:16.580 Face the corner.

04:11:17.420 No, you got to face the corner and think about what you've done.

04:11:20.440 Think about what you've done, Desiree.

04:11:22.360 All right.

04:11:22.840 That's great, Desiree.

04:11:23.600 I know you need attention.

04:11:25.600 Okay.

04:11:25.840 Think about it.

04:11:26.340 Now sit there quietly and think about what you've done.

04:11:29.320 While we get to the people who have interesting stories, like this gal we've been speaking

04:11:33.840 to.

04:11:34.260 Anyway, I think that that's a base tweet.

04:11:36.440 That's all I'm saying.

04:11:37.620 Yeah.

04:11:37.820 Jade's based.

04:11:38.580 Jade's based.

04:11:40.320 Next tweet, I guess.

04:11:42.580 I'll hide the.

04:11:43.560 You can hide this.

04:11:44.240 I'm going to just.

04:11:44.960 Okay.

04:11:47.620 Jade.

04:11:48.140 Excuse me.

04:11:48.780 I'm sorry, Brian.

04:11:49.520 I don't mean to cut in, but it seems like your guest, Desiree, is not standing with her

04:11:56.620 back arched straight so that we know she's in the corner.

04:12:02.260 She's.

04:12:02.580 I think she's, she's.

04:12:06.360 Are you sulking, Desiree?

04:12:07.860 Are you sulking?

04:12:08.880 No, she's like, she's straddling Kiki right now. 0.98

04:12:13.620 All right.

04:12:14.280 All right.

04:12:14.480 Back to the tweet.

04:12:16.120 Jade, I'll have you read it.

04:12:17.420 Go ahead.

04:12:18.020 Pull it up.

04:12:18.900 I'm not a feminist. 0.96

04:12:20.000 I like boys too much from Back to Black was real AF, LMAO.

04:12:25.380 There was a scene in Back to Black.

04:12:28.040 Okay.

04:12:28.880 Next.

04:12:29.400 Do we have another tweet?

04:12:31.580 Oh, we already did this one, right?

04:12:33.240 I think.

04:12:33.920 Okay.

04:12:34.280 Next.

04:12:35.040 Or is that it?

04:12:36.100 That's it.

04:12:37.280 What comes after that?

04:12:38.540 Is there anything else?

04:12:39.920 Dating app.

04:12:40.480 Oh, her dating app.

04:12:41.140 We'll do the dating app really quick.

04:12:42.280 Then we'll move on to.

04:12:43.920 All right.

04:12:44.360 This.

04:12:44.640 We have Jade here.

04:12:45.620 This is her hinge profile. 0.68

04:12:46.720 Can you zoom it out a little bit?

04:12:48.760 Because I think there's prompts.

04:12:50.520 Oh, too big or too small.

04:12:52.300 Excuse me.

04:12:52.620 Can you read all of these?

04:12:56.500 We'll instantly hit it off.

04:12:58.580 If you're into fitness, you're not woke, you're family oriented.

04:13:03.280 You should add owns a truck and homeless onto that list.

04:13:08.580 Next.

04:13:10.980 A life goal of mine.

04:13:12.200 Oh, travel more, get married and have children.

04:13:15.460 When do you want to have kids?

04:13:16.340 Um, I've been past the age that I wanted to have kids, but.

04:13:24.840 24?

04:13:25.840 Yeah.

04:13:26.660 Oh, okay.

04:13:27.760 All right.

04:13:28.260 Next.

04:13:30.280 Okay.

04:13:31.460 Woke up like this.

04:13:32.600 All right.

04:13:33.040 Here's your profile.

04:13:34.300 Okay.

04:13:34.560 Next.

04:13:35.200 No.

04:13:35.900 Make it bigger, please.

04:13:37.900 No.

04:13:38.500 No, no.

04:13:38.820 Just one bigger. 1.00

04:13:39.800 What the fuck? 1.00

04:13:40.680 Wait, wait. 1.00

04:13:41.260 What happened?

04:13:42.020 She was based in awesome and all this.

04:13:44.360 And then that.

04:13:45.260 What happened?

04:13:47.040 What do you mean?

04:13:48.260 I think he's talking about.

04:13:48.840 Well, why are you skanking it up?

04:13:50.500 It was all perfect before.

04:13:52.040 And then, and then now it's just.

04:13:54.180 What happened?

04:13:54.760 It was my Halloween costume.

04:14:01.980 Hang on, hang on.

04:14:02.860 Let me do this stern disapproval.

04:14:05.840 Daddy Andrew.

04:14:07.980 Big daddy Andrew.

04:14:08.900 I mean, I.

04:14:09.620 No, nothing.

04:14:12.520 I mean, I don't think I dress inappropriately.

04:14:14.840 I think I just dress.

04:14:16.540 Can we look at the picture and you can tell me again how this is not inappropriate.

04:14:21.000 I just, I do want to hear the rationalization.

04:14:24.960 This is not inappropriate based on.

04:14:28.460 No, I didn't say that.

04:14:30.360 Oh, okay.

04:14:31.140 No, it is.

04:14:32.040 It's a sexy Halloween costume.

04:14:33.940 I'm just saying, um, in general, I don't dress inappropriately.

04:14:40.740 I think I just, my opinion on it is you dress respectfully according to what you're doing,

04:14:47.640 where you're going, who's around.

04:14:49.720 Um, but yeah, I don't know.

04:14:54.400 It's just my Halloween costume.

04:14:55.820 Thank you.

04:15:07.500 Wait, I have a question.

04:15:08.920 What's up? 0.99

04:15:09.480 Is shirtless men, um, slutty? 0.99

04:15:12.320 Is a shirtless man, slutty? 0.98

04:15:15.360 Yeah, like a guy posting, like, gym pictures or, like. 0.90

04:15:17.720 It's revealing, I suppose.

04:15:20.700 I mean.

04:15:21.720 Yeah, so I can, I can tell you what, what, what, what my dad told me when I was a very

04:15:27.540 young man, that men who walk around with their shirt off, it's generally considered to be

04:15:34.260 disrespectful.

04:15:34.880 Disrespectful, regardless of how buff, tough, and savagely ripped they are, it is considered

04:15:42.000 to be disrespectful.

04:15:43.360 That's what my dad told me anyway.

04:15:47.200 I mean, um, if you want an explanation.

04:15:50.860 Before we do, let's just look at the TikTok, too.

04:15:54.620 Actually, wait, we didn't get through all the, did we get through all the app photos?

04:15:59.800 Let's just see all the photos really quick.

04:16:01.900 Never have I ever received flowers from a guy.

04:16:05.740 Okay.

04:16:08.260 All right.

04:16:09.520 Uniform.

04:16:10.180 Is there another one, or?

04:16:11.720 Okay, let's, uh.

04:16:13.900 All right.

04:16:14.500 And pull up TikTok really quick.

04:16:18.320 Because you, you also said you're Asian, right?

04:16:20.660 Yeah.

04:16:20.940 Like on your dating, oh, F11, you gotta be F11.

04:16:23.260 Okay.

04:16:24.400 Oh.

04:16:25.500 Okay.

04:16:26.940 Uh, make it smaller.

04:16:28.720 Is this a Halloween costume also?

04:16:30.560 No, it was a rave outfit.

04:16:33.200 The, wait, scroll down a bit.

04:16:34.520 No.

04:16:34.840 Scroll down.

04:16:35.320 No, no, no, no, no.

04:16:36.220 Up, up, up.

04:16:37.320 A little bit, yeah.

04:16:38.820 Hover over the one and.

04:16:41.660 It's like half of these pictures are the most provocative you can possibly make.

04:16:45.900 Scroll up.

04:16:47.780 Just pointing that out.

04:16:49.220 Scroll down.

04:16:52.000 Just keep scrolling.

04:16:53.220 Keep scrolling.

04:16:55.620 There's a, hover over the, that one, yeah.

04:16:58.340 Oh, does it not?

04:17:01.160 Okay, scroll down.

04:17:07.940 Uh, I mean.

04:17:12.000 It's not the worst I've ever seen.

04:17:17.580 But like, you said you're a Christian conservative, right?

04:17:20.240 Yeah.

04:17:20.580 Um, I mean, if you want.

04:17:23.700 Uh-huh.

04:17:23.880 What?

04:17:24.520 Wait, what?

04:17:25.720 Did you see your pictures?

04:17:29.080 Like, what are those for?

04:17:30.720 Are those for anything other than a listening, a reaction from the opposite sex? 0.99

04:17:34.840 I'm just going to explain.

04:17:36.240 Go ahead.

04:17:36.580 Um, like I said, I grew up bullied.

04:17:41.960 I had body dysmorphia.

04:17:43.780 I had a binge eating disorder.

04:17:46.020 I hid my body by trying to transition. 0.52

04:17:49.620 I mean, just sweaters.

04:17:51.960 So, I'm just going to grant all of this.

04:17:53.980 And I, I, I believe you.

04:17:56.180 I believe that you hid your body due to the fact that you had an eating disorder.

04:18:01.500 But I would like to just ask this question.

04:18:05.440 If those pictures there are not for the opposite sex, if they're not revealing for the purpose

04:18:11.800 of enticing the opposite sex or getting attention from them, then what are they for?

04:18:17.320 I never imagined I'd look like this. 0.99

04:18:20.000 Honestly, I thought I would be mutilated and have my breasts cut off. 1.00

04:18:24.460 Like, I am actually shocked at how well I look like that. 0.98

04:18:27.540 Yeah, I understand all that too.

04:18:28.920 But I would like to ask, aren't those pictures there designed specifically to get male reactions

04:18:37.560 of affirmation?

04:18:40.020 Uh, no.

04:18:41.520 I don't expect to get attention from it.

04:18:44.700 Honestly, I just think I am happy with, I don't know.

04:18:52.240 I just never imagined I'd look like this.

04:18:53.720 So, you usually strut around in front of like, let's say you had four movies.

04:18:57.840 That's not inappropriate.

04:18:59.040 Let's say you had four roommates who were females. 1.00

04:19:02.060 Would you dress provocatively and walk around them in order to get some affirmation from

04:19:08.760 them?

04:19:10.260 What?

04:19:10.800 I don't get.

04:19:12.300 Well, I'm just wondering who are the photos for?

04:19:15.540 All of those are situational.

04:19:17.640 Like, they were for Halloween or I was in Ibiza.

04:19:21.500 I was constantly going to beach parties.

04:19:24.040 Like, they all have an explanation.

04:19:25.560 I don't just dress up like that.

04:19:27.000 I'm not like a cosplayer.

04:19:29.540 They're all situational.

04:19:33.340 For who?

04:19:35.360 For me.

04:19:36.500 I mean, I hated my body.

04:19:38.240 Yeah.

04:19:38.880 So, just to get this right, we're on a deserted desert island, right?

04:19:46.740 Deserted.

04:19:47.320 Nobody could ever see any of the pictures that you would ever post to anywhere.

04:19:52.920 And you had a Polaroid camera.

04:19:55.140 You would take pictures of yourself in your bra and panties in provocative poses for yourself.

04:20:02.460 I just want to make sure we got that clear.

04:20:04.420 I mean, yeah, I do.

04:20:06.340 Yeah.

04:20:06.560 I'm happy. 0.99

04:20:08.000 Well, I'm going to walk this way now because that's the biggest amount of bullshit I've 0.99

04:20:12.540 heard this evening. 1.00

04:20:13.400 Even worse than the shit Desiree has said. 1.00

04:20:16.880 You would, if you were on a desert island with a Polaroid, dress up in your bra and panties 1.00

04:20:21.560 and take pictures of yourself, but just for yourself.

04:20:24.860 I would usually agree with you, but I didn't imagine I'd look like this.

04:20:31.820 I was overweight.

04:20:33.060 I was trying to mutilate myself.

04:20:35.960 Like, I'm actually genuinely really happy with my body.

04:20:40.860 Yeah, that's fine.

04:20:41.960 I agree.

04:20:43.240 I'm glad.

04:20:44.060 I'm happy for you that you lost all that weight and this and that.

04:20:47.140 Yeah, I do admire it.

04:20:47.660 But why can't you just admit that the photos of you wearing almost nothing are not so that

04:20:54.300 you can look at you wearing almost nothing, but so that you can get commenters who look

04:21:00.920 at you wearing almost nothing, who give you affirmations that you're wearing almost nothing.

04:21:05.860 Or you can bullshit me and say, no, Andrew, the truth is, if I had a Polaroid camera on 1.00

04:21:10.740 Desert Island, I would do that shit anyway. 0.99

04:21:13.160 Can I answer? 1.00

04:21:13.420 Because I just like how I look in my bra and panties.

04:21:16.120 Can I answer?

04:21:17.700 Sure.

04:21:18.620 Yes, I would do that on a desert island.

04:21:21.820 And no, I don't think it's for strange men.

04:21:24.900 And I think it's for, you know, whatever guy I have a crush on at the moment.

04:21:31.020 When you're posting images of yourself online, internet, wherever you're posting them and

04:21:36.280 not keeping them to yourself or for the person they're intended for, as you just mentioned,

04:21:40.380 it is for seeking validation from the general public.

04:21:43.780 And instead, instead of keeping that to yourself for yourself, or like I said, for your partner,

04:21:49.560 it is literally for the intention of seeking validation, which is unfortunately part of

04:21:55.520 today's atmosphere of online.

04:21:58.060 I grew up in an atmosphere that that did not exist.

04:22:01.240 And yeah, I'm not saying that it's actually not true.

04:22:04.660 There's a whole group of women who put our pictures out there for us. 1.00

04:22:08.240 You can unmute her.

04:22:09.020 Because we felt so invisible and like we tried to be somebody we weren't.

04:22:13.240 And when we're our real self, we want to put it out there.

04:22:15.220 I'm not saying that.

04:22:16.660 I mean, obviously, I think every female likes the attention of males and males like the attention 0.97

04:22:22.860 of females, just like guys like to show off their muscles. 1.00

04:22:26.480 I'm not denying that.

04:22:27.620 I'm saying that it's also for me because of what I've been through.

04:22:33.100 Like, yes, of course, I would like attention from a cute guy or my crush.

04:22:39.040 And if I were in a relationship and he wasn't cool with that clothing or Halloween costume,

04:22:46.100 I would not disrespect him and make him uncomfortable.

04:22:51.580 Or I would take down posts.

04:22:54.620 Like, I'm not denying that.

04:22:57.340 I'm just saying that a huge part of that is because of, like, it's either, I don't know.

04:23:04.820 I just didn't imagine this.

04:23:06.120 I could have been infertile, mutilated, no breast, overweight.

04:23:13.500 Like, it's not just because of that.

04:23:16.480 Wait, so really quick, can you pull up the dating profile again where it says, like, the Christian conservative?

04:23:31.100 Because I think perhaps, I don't know if Andrew's back yet, but it says you're Christian conservative.

04:23:36.660 Like, if you wrote that you're liberal on there, I don't think Andrew would really push back as much with those photos.

04:23:47.360 But I think his qualm is, you're calling yourself Christian, calling yourself conservative.

04:23:52.080 And I think part of being, like, Christian or conservative is there's a component of dressing modestly.

04:23:59.960 Well, I think modest is how you carry yourself.

04:24:03.840 I don't think I carry myself in a trashy way.

04:24:07.440 Well, I mean...

04:24:07.880 I don't think I'm trashy.

04:24:09.720 I dress appropriately.

04:24:11.460 I'm not here in a little shirt, and I dress according to...

04:24:17.160 You are literally in a little shirt.

04:24:19.360 It's a dress.

04:24:20.840 Yeah, I mean, but the top half of it is showing as much possible skin without showing the nudity portions of the skin.

04:24:29.960 And, in fact, I could not envision in my head that you could wear a more revealing outfit than the one that you have on right now.

04:24:39.780 She probably could.

04:24:40.540 I mean, I grew up religiously.

04:24:42.700 I'm just...

04:24:43.700 Wait, what denomination of Christian are you?

04:24:46.220 Well, I grew up Catholic.

04:24:48.560 Oh, okay.

04:24:49.180 But I'm not doing anything that my sister wouldn't do, or my mom, or...

04:24:59.180 Yeah, I don't...

04:25:02.180 Well, I'm just...

04:25:03.580 I have to go back to this.

04:25:05.380 I really don't understand who the photos are for.

04:25:08.920 You say that they're for you, but you could easily not ever make those public.

04:25:14.280 Why do you make them public?

04:25:15.480 I mean, I don't make all of them public.

04:25:18.560 Yeah, I know, but the ones that you did make public, why are they public?

04:25:23.000 I don't know, because I think I look good, and I...

04:25:27.200 You want... 0.94

04:25:28.440 Do you like it when people put the little like there and say, damn, girl, you look good? 1.00

04:25:33.380 Do you like that shit? 1.00

04:25:34.480 It's a grounding exercise. 1.00

04:25:36.000 It makes it...

04:25:36.520 Everyone likes to be complimented.

04:25:38.640 Let her speak, Desiree.

04:25:39.660 Hang on.

04:25:40.400 I think everyone likes to be complimented.

04:25:42.560 I mean...

04:25:42.760 Sure.

04:25:43.040 Yeah, I do like compliments, and like I said, if I'm into a guy, I would like him to like it, and yeah.

04:25:52.820 Wait, Andrew, your primary gripe here is like who's she posting it for as opposed to like she's categorizing herself as Christian, as conservative.

04:26:07.420 Isn't that the bigger gripe here?

04:26:08.760 Like, if she was liberal, like you wouldn't care about the photos.

04:26:12.060 Well, maybe you would, but not to the same degree.

04:26:14.360 Well, we start...

04:26:15.180 So I'm going to start with the kind of grounding here of the first lie.

04:26:20.820 So I believe almost everything that you've told me, except this.

04:26:26.920 So in this, you say, I posted these photos for me. 0.99

04:26:31.800 No, you fucking didn't post those photos for you. 0.94

04:26:34.280 You may like the attention you get from the photos, but I don't believe in a million years you posted them so that you could view them later, 0.99

04:26:42.620 because you could obviously just take the photos and view them later.

04:26:45.940 You posted them publicly for a reason.

04:26:48.640 What is the reason?

04:26:49.760 Two things can be true at once.

04:26:51.580 I can also feel like...

04:26:52.600 Sure, two things could be true at once.

04:26:53.860 You post them for you.

04:26:54.860 That's what I'm saying.

04:26:55.580 I'm not denying anything you're saying.

04:26:57.780 I'm not denying anything that you're saying.

04:27:00.140 Right, right.

04:27:00.800 Do you feel like it was kind of an outreach for you to connect with other people who are having similar experiences as you,

04:27:09.880 and then in that way you could kind of build community if somebody resonated with your content type of thing?

04:27:14.720 Because that's kind of why I started sharing.

04:27:16.200 I don't know.

04:27:16.520 No, I just think that a lot of detransitioners, they kind of don't revert back to being really feminine and... 1.00

04:27:26.720 I agree.

04:27:27.400 Listen, I agree with all that.

04:27:29.120 All I'm asking for is like, look, I'm not asking for perfection.

04:27:32.400 I am not a perfect man by any metric, by any metric.

04:27:37.760 I'm just asking for honesty.

04:27:40.220 I am being honest.

04:27:40.620 If you really think about it, when you post those photos publicly, which reveal as much as you possibly could, basically,

04:27:48.360 without getting kicked off the app, what's the real reason for it?

04:27:52.000 I don't know.

04:27:55.660 I guess several reasons.

04:27:57.940 Give me the several.

04:27:59.820 Like I said, I finally like how I look despite what I've been through and the dysmorphia.

04:28:07.160 I agree.

04:28:08.020 Yeah, I like the compliments.

04:28:08.680 You like how you look?

04:28:10.200 And whenever I like a guy, like I said, I'd like him to see it.

04:28:14.820 Sure.

04:28:15.560 And what about strangers?

04:28:16.600 Do you like them to see it?

04:28:18.320 Um, I don't think much about that.

04:28:21.940 Anything that I post, I just...

04:28:24.640 You post it publicly to Instagram, but you don't care what they think?

04:28:28.840 I don't know.

04:28:29.760 I don't really think about it.

04:28:31.720 No?

04:28:32.020 So then why do you post them?

04:28:34.620 Because I like it.

04:28:36.380 Because you like it, but you don't care.

04:28:37.760 I mean, I've given you my reasons.

04:28:39.540 So, so I just want, I want you to put yourself in my shoes and you're asking me these questions.

04:28:45.220 You say, Andrew, why do you post the pictures of you flexing, of you flexing all over the

04:28:52.140 profile and you kissing your bicep, right?

04:28:55.760 Is it because you just like how you look?

04:28:58.500 And I could say, sure.

04:28:59.540 No, I never said that.

04:29:00.720 Hang on, hang on.

04:29:01.660 I would agree that that was true, right?

04:29:03.240 When I said, sure, it's because I like how I look.

04:29:06.220 But if you were to then ask, is it also because you like the attention you get from that?

04:29:11.480 I would also think I would have to be forced to concede that, yes, it is because I want

04:29:16.960 women to see all of those goods that I have, right? 1.00

04:29:20.400 They, they see the massive biceps, which by the way, I don't have.

04:29:23.420 But if I did, they, they see that, right?

04:29:27.120 And I like that attention.

04:29:28.940 Otherwise, I can't really think why you would post it in a public forum where everybody could

04:29:34.580 see it unless you wanted the feedback of, I really like seeing this.

04:29:41.780 Uh, I mean, yeah, but for me, I guess I just post more for the one guy that I like a year.

04:29:50.520 Wait, okay.

04:29:51.480 There's a guy.

04:29:52.320 Let me ask a quick follow up.

04:29:53.820 Uh, when you were, uh, when you had your eating disorder and you ate a lot, is that correct?

04:30:02.060 You ate a lot?

04:30:03.220 Yeah.

04:30:03.840 And you were a little overweight?

04:30:06.180 Very, yeah.

04:30:07.240 Did you ever post a single one of those photos?

04:30:10.240 No, I didn't take pictures.

04:30:11.720 Oh, you didn't post a single one of those photos.

04:30:16.640 Isn't that interesting?

04:30:18.520 It's almost like you thought you would get negative feedback on those, but you didn't

04:30:25.460 feel like you would get negative feedback on these.

04:30:27.680 No, I had dysmorphia.

04:30:29.300 I did not like looking at myself.

04:30:31.360 Well, kind of going in circles here a little bit.

04:30:33.860 So I do have to move things on.

04:30:36.140 Uh, a couple of things, guys.

04:30:38.360 TTS has been lowered to a hundred.

04:30:40.420 If you want, feel free to get a TTS in.

04:30:42.500 We've lowered it to a hundred.

04:30:44.140 Uh, Austin, can you have Twitch pulled up here?

04:30:47.260 Yeah, one second.

04:30:53.000 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:30:55.860 Drop us a follow in a Prime sub.

04:30:58.420 It's been, uh, 14, 15 minutes since we last had a Prime.

04:31:03.220 Thank you, Larry, for that.

04:31:04.500 I think it's bugged, boys.

04:31:06.640 I think it's bugged.

04:31:08.680 Help?

04:31:09.360 Help.

04:31:10.040 Help.

04:31:11.360 Uh, help.

04:31:11.900 Yeah, drop us a follow in a Prime sub, guys.

04:31:13.480 Really would appreciate it.

04:31:14.300 We're trying to get to, uh, 100,000 followers over there on Twitch.

04:31:17.780 We're at about, like, 85K or something.

04:31:19.640 Not sure why it's not updating.

04:31:21.300 I wonder if you click it up there.

04:31:22.820 Yo, Chris, thank you for the Prime man.

04:31:25.300 Appreciate it, dude.

04:31:26.080 Thank you.

04:31:26.460 Also, check out our Discord, discord.gg.

04:31:28.520 You don't have to pull it up.

04:31:29.400 Discord.gg slash whatever.

04:31:31.000 Drop us a follow in a Prime sub.

04:31:31.920 And, uh, reminder, we've, uh, lowered the TTS to $100.

04:31:35.340 $199.

04:31:36.720 $99.

04:31:38.420 $99.

04:31:39.480 $99.000.

04:31:39.640 TTS.

04:31:40.100 Um, I want to go through a couple things here.

04:31:42.680 So, going around the table, this is related to the Stifler question.

04:31:46.180 Uh, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?

04:31:49.220 Oh, hold on.

04:31:50.200 Roth underscore PSA donated $100.

04:31:54.120 I almost feel bad for Kiki. 0.96

04:31:56.660 Sex dolls matter. 1.00

04:31:58.020 Having Desiree in the corner was hilarious.

04:32:00.360 I don't like giving props to 304s, but that was good sport.

04:32:05.980 That mute was worth $500.

04:32:08.820 Lint roll Kiki. 0.68

04:32:11.260 I should have done the yellow card.

04:32:12.780 I hate giving credit where credit is due.

04:32:14.800 Thank you, Ryan.

04:32:15.100 But I do have to give credit.

04:32:16.380 You did take your punishment like a man, Desiree. 0.90

04:32:19.060 That's fair.

04:32:19.880 She did take her punishment like a man. 0.94

04:32:21.860 I know how to take it. 1.00

04:32:23.460 And for that, for only that, Desiree, even though you're a crazy lunatic, 0.99

04:32:26.900 you do deserve the Ws. 0.97

04:32:28.160 But I would, I would like to just very quickly revisit this, um, and, and ask you, uh, to our

04:32:35.660 girlfriend.

04:32:36.760 I'm sorry.

04:32:37.340 I, I didn't actually catch your name.

04:32:39.460 Um, D transition.

04:32:41.920 I'm sorry.

04:32:42.660 Can you tell me your name again?

04:32:44.260 Jade.

04:32:45.260 Jade.

04:32:45.940 Okay.

04:32:46.720 Uh, Jade.

04:32:47.380 I, I still, I still just got to kind of know the answer to this question.

04:32:54.320 Um, I'm not, I'm not trying to beat you up.

04:32:57.660 I'm really glad you did transition.

04:32:59.940 I'm really glad you did all of that.

04:33:02.280 All I'm looking for is just honesty from you.

04:33:04.760 Right.

04:33:05.080 And I'll give you the, I'll give you the same back.

04:33:07.040 I have several answers and you're saying that I'm saying that, oh, it's not for attention.

04:33:11.600 I never said that.

04:33:13.140 It is for attention, right?

04:33:14.460 I think it's, yeah, several reasons.

04:33:16.840 Yeah.

04:33:17.020 Not just that.

04:33:18.460 I think it's.

04:33:19.000 I'm not saying it's just that.

04:33:20.680 No.

04:33:21.280 But isn't that a big component?

04:33:24.040 Like how many likes do those photos have?

04:33:26.200 Let me ask you a question.

04:33:27.220 The more naked you are, do you get more likes on those photos?

04:33:30.120 Honestly, I don't pay attention to likes.

04:33:32.100 I really don't.

04:33:34.220 Like if we, if I went through your photos right now on Instagram.

04:33:36.980 I hardly even go through comments. 0.95

04:33:37.860 The more, the more naked you are. 0.96

04:33:39.260 I check my likes on Instagram. 0.95

04:33:41.780 What's that?

04:33:42.520 I check my likes on Instagram.

04:33:44.240 I don't.

04:33:44.340 Yeah.

04:33:44.680 Yeah.

04:33:45.020 So the more naked you are, do you get more likes on those photos?

04:33:48.140 I don't pay attention to that.

04:33:50.800 You never, you never pay.

04:33:52.460 You just said you checked your likes on Instagram, right?

04:33:55.840 Yeah.

04:33:56.240 When I post them, but I just don't notice that.

04:33:58.920 I never thought about that.

04:34:01.720 If we were to go through and calculate, could you tell me honestly, like from your honest

04:34:06.540 assessment right now, if I went through and calculated, do you think that the photos where

04:34:12.040 you were the most nude had the most amount of likes versus the ones where you were not

04:34:17.920 nude?

04:34:19.020 Yeah, probably.

04:34:20.400 Why?

04:34:22.480 I, because men.

04:34:25.200 And your motivation for posting them is?

04:34:29.960 My crush.

04:34:31.680 Hmm.

04:34:33.640 You just want other men. 0.93

04:34:36.460 So your crush, you think that your good dating strategy here is to show your crush that other

04:34:41.580 men desire you by you posting the most naked photos of yourself that you can.

04:34:47.560 That's going to lure him in.

04:34:49.400 Is that, is that, is that correct?

04:34:50.860 No, I don't have that complicated thought process.

04:34:57.240 Very strange.

04:34:58.180 Then why are you posting them for your ex?

04:35:00.620 My ex is in prison.

04:35:03.860 Well, well, I don't understand.

04:35:05.400 Don't you post these now?

04:35:08.480 Yeah.

04:35:09.280 I.

04:35:09.860 Well, then who are they for?

04:35:11.520 Whatever crush I have at the moment.

04:35:16.020 And you think that the best way to lure this crush in is by showing as many men as you can,

04:35:23.960 you as naked as you can possibly make yourself?

04:35:26.120 I don't think, I don't have that whole thought process.

04:35:30.060 It's just like, oh, he liked my picture.

04:35:32.060 Cool.

04:35:33.480 So I'll just leave it with this.

04:35:35.820 I'm just going to ask you just one more time.

04:35:38.320 I just want to make sure we're totally clear on this.

04:35:40.020 Uh, if you had to guess on the most liked photos you had, would you say that they are the ones

04:35:48.440 where you are wearing the least?

04:35:51.480 Yeah, probably.

04:35:52.680 Okay.

04:35:53.160 Well, I'll just leave it there.

04:35:56.740 So before we come back to the thing, uh, you said you, do you, you have a crush?

04:36:01.860 Yeah.

04:36:02.420 Do you have a crush currently?

04:36:03.980 Yeah.

04:36:05.160 Who's that?

04:36:06.500 Uh, privacy.

04:36:07.900 Is it the guy you went on a date with?

04:36:11.360 Yeah.

04:36:11.900 How come you don't just send him the photos directly?

04:36:14.980 Like, why would you need them to be public?

04:36:17.340 I mean, I haven't posted anything recently other than selfies.

04:36:21.900 Yeah.

04:36:22.200 But, but just in general, why wouldn't you just send him the pics instead of posting them

04:36:29.320 publicly?

04:36:29.820 Yeah, I would.

04:36:31.980 If I had a boyfriend, I would.

04:36:33.980 No, not a boyfriend.

04:36:34.940 You said a crush.

04:36:36.120 You're posting those so that your crush sees them.

04:36:38.700 Yet, there's a way I can think of where your, your crush could see them instantly and nobody

04:36:45.120 else could.

04:36:45.960 So then it was just for the crush.

04:36:47.920 Why wouldn't you just send them to the crush?

04:36:51.740 Are you trying to let him be like lead?

04:36:53.840 It's kind of like the idea of dropping the picture.

04:36:55.620 Hang on, let her answer, please, Desiree.

04:36:57.960 Yeah, I, I mean, I think it's kind of awkward just sending someone a picture, I guess.

04:37:04.360 It's kind of normal, but.

04:37:06.240 Have you tagged your crush in any of these photos?

04:37:09.820 No, I'm not.

04:37:10.900 We're not dating.

04:37:11.640 No, of course not.

04:37:12.380 No.

04:37:12.740 Never tagged.

04:37:13.300 It would be different if he were my boyfriend.

04:37:15.160 Let me ask you, let me ask you the final question.

04:37:17.220 Have you ever actually sent your crush directly these photos?

04:37:24.020 No, I barely started talking.

04:37:29.000 So to get this right, you post the photos for your crush.

04:37:32.720 You never actually send the pictures to your crush.

04:37:35.860 And on top of that, you've never even tagged your crush in any of these pictures.

04:37:40.080 But Andrew, please believe that these are just for my crush.

04:37:43.520 I didn't say they were just for my crush.

04:37:46.800 I didn't say that they were solely for that.

04:37:51.840 But no, I think that's a boyfriend situation.

04:37:55.820 Like, if you're taking selfies and pictures, you send them to your boyfriend first, then post, see what he thinks.

04:38:03.460 At least that's, that would, that would be what, that's what I would do.

04:38:07.900 So, if you had a boyfriend, you would post, you would post, you would post pictures in your bra and panties if you had a boyfriend to the public at large to see what he thought?

04:38:19.020 No, if, no, I didn't say that.

04:38:22.400 Well, then what did, what did I get wrong there?

04:38:24.080 I said that posting, if I had a boyfriend, yes, that would make sense.

04:38:33.220 Send the, send him the pictures.

04:38:35.780 You know, if it was provocative and he didn't like it, then don't post it.

04:38:42.100 But I'm not in that situation.

04:38:43.880 I don't have a boyfriend.

04:38:45.040 But I thought you posted them for your crush.

04:38:48.740 That's not my boyfriend.

04:38:50.880 Yeah, but if you post them for your crush, why don't you just send them to your crush?

04:38:53.920 A crush is a crush.

04:38:55.040 It doesn't indicate that you're talking.

04:38:56.960 It doesn't indicate that, it just means that I like him.

04:38:59.200 Yeah, I know, but I still don't understand.

04:39:00.980 Why wouldn't you just send them to the crush?

04:39:03.880 Because it's just a crush.

04:39:04.720 She might not want to be guilty of S.A.

04:39:06.380 It's not.

04:39:08.080 If he didn't ask.

04:39:09.220 If the guy didn't ask for sexy photos. 0.97

04:39:11.320 Can we, can we please maybe try to ask a final question here to.

04:39:15.040 Yeah, yeah, I'll just, I'll just wrap it up.

04:39:17.080 I just really would like to know.

04:39:19.100 I still really don't understand.

04:39:21.060 I'm trying to put my brain in your brain and figure out where you're coming from, right?

04:39:25.640 I understand the eating disorder stuff.

04:39:27.420 I understand the want for male attention because of, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

04:39:32.580 I don't actually understand the idea of I want to entice my crush by not sending him these pictures specifically,

04:39:40.800 but instead putting them out publicly without ever even tagging him so he doesn't even know I'm his crush. 0.95

04:39:48.180 Doesn't that sound 100% like fucking Cope? 0.98

04:39:51.720 I mean, doesn't that sound like Cope? 0.98

04:39:54.300 No, there are situations where you're just not talking to them.

04:39:57.480 Yeah, like they don't even know each other closely.

04:40:00.540 She's not going to randomly send him a sexy photo.

04:40:03.020 So it's just like a less aggressive way of...

04:40:04.960 How many sexy photos did you send Brian?

04:40:07.260 Well, I'm aggressive.

04:40:08.400 And you guys told me that I was SA.

04:40:10.400 So I haven't even been...

04:40:12.020 Well, maybe I have.

04:40:13.120 I don't know.

04:40:13.400 It sure seems like...

04:40:15.020 If you have somebody in your brain, Desiree, who you want to entice...

04:40:19.180 I feel like I've been sending you less unsolicited news.

04:40:24.000 But I do...

04:40:24.780 I use Brian like my muse.

04:40:27.000 So when I make my Instagram posts, for example, I'm making them for him.

04:40:32.140 That's 43, by the way.

04:40:34.440 Noah donated $500. 1.00

04:40:36.720 It's a fucking yellow card. 1.00

04:40:37.780 The men and non-insufferable women are talking Desiree. 1.00

04:40:41.100 Mute Desiree again, please.

04:40:43.360 Uh-oh, thank God.

04:40:44.400 Muted.

04:40:44.620 The best thing ever that you've ever done, Desiree, for this show, is get muted.

04:40:49.620 Anyway, I'm happy to move it on from there, Brian.

04:40:52.020 All right.

04:40:52.760 And listen, I am really glad you detransitioned. 0.99

04:40:56.360 I'm very happy for you, right?

04:40:58.220 Thank you, Nathan.

04:40:58.920 But on this, you can see that there's a huge inconsistency here.

04:41:03.120 Old man Marine donated $100.

04:41:06.440 Jade, you're constantly putting yourself in the F-only category with pics like that.

04:41:11.220 Your crush may like these photos and brag about being with you, but the relationship won't last.

04:41:17.280 I mean, I guess, like, whatever relationship I have in the end, God will decide and my life will be a testament to what I deserve in the end.

04:41:28.280 Old man Marine, thank you for the message.

04:41:32.880 Noah, thanks for the...

04:41:33.280 Mr. Killer of Cereal donated $100.

04:41:35.940 Thank you, Bill and Cereal.

04:41:36.720 I don't make enough money for this show.

04:41:38.340 What can I do to silence Desiree for the rest of the show?

04:41:42.160 A new roof on the studio, it would be less arduous than her scientific analysis of all's perspective.

04:41:48.660 Thank you, Bill and Cereal.

04:41:49.240 Mr. Killer of Cereal.

04:41:50.220 Thank you, Bill and Cereal.

04:41:50.520 I'm going to actually give you the answer to this question that you desperately yearn for.

04:41:55.660 We are coming on 1 o'clock in the morning Eastern time, and this tells me that if you were to send Brian two champagne pops worth of Super Chats, meaning $2,000,

04:42:08.520 that I'm certain that we could silence Desiree for the rest of the night, and I would love to see it, by the way.

04:42:14.760 I'll just, I'll sit on Kiki's lap and drink the two bottles of champagne. 0.98

04:42:19.540 I can't hear you, Desiree, because you're fucking muted. 0.99

04:42:22.160 You're muted. 0.99

04:42:23.360 Should I, I feel like I should change the microphone mute to, like, one of the shut up things. 1.00

04:42:29.660 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

04:42:31.660 Oh, this one, maybe this one. 1.00

04:42:32.680 Shut the fuck up, okay? 1.00

04:42:34.440 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

04:42:36.240 Maybe, I don't know. 1.00

04:42:36.980 Maybe I'll change the noise, the TTS trigger.

04:42:40.260 Kill of Cereal, good to see you in the chat, man.

04:42:41.920 Appreciate it.

04:42:42.480 Thank you for the message.

04:42:43.240 When are we going to get his avatar up there?

04:42:46.980 I'm working on it.

04:42:47.940 I need to, it's hard to find something serial related.

04:42:51.640 So, hang on.

04:42:52.460 Mr. E came up with Captain Crunch mixed with Count Chocula.

04:42:58.320 I feel like that's a great avatar.

04:43:01.420 It could work.

04:43:02.720 It could work.

04:43:03.660 It could work.

04:43:04.980 So, okay, let's get through a couple of these things here.

04:43:07.540 So, you mentioned your crush, right?

04:43:10.020 I had a couple questions on this.

04:43:11.120 It was an example.

04:43:12.000 But you went on one date with this guy?

04:43:14.800 Yeah.

04:43:15.260 How long have you known him?

04:43:17.840 About three weeks.

04:43:19.520 How did you meet him?

04:43:21.040 Hinge.

04:43:21.620 Oh, Hinge. 0.83

04:43:22.300 He's your crush?

04:43:23.820 At the moment, yeah.

04:43:25.460 I don't, oh my gosh.

04:43:28.740 I don't really like guys.

04:43:32.340 I don't just fall for them easily.

04:43:35.500 You don't fall for guys easily?

04:43:36.720 No, I don't.

04:43:38.320 It's very hard for me to actually crush on someone.

04:43:42.340 A little grinder guy.

04:43:44.820 Okay.

04:43:45.680 You fell for them kind of easily.

04:43:47.340 I've liked a total of, well, I've crushed on a total of three guys in my life, I think.

04:43:53.880 Is this unrequited?

04:43:54.980 I don't know.

04:43:58.400 Okay.

04:44:00.000 Because you said you went on a date a week ago.

04:44:01.940 A week ago, you were being a little maybe vague or evasive on this.

04:44:05.300 Yeah.

04:44:06.500 It sounds like maybe there's not.

04:44:08.020 Are you stalking him?

04:44:08.840 Is that what you're telling me?

04:44:11.060 I'm not going to go into detail.

04:44:12.520 Whoa.

04:44:14.160 You're stalking him?

04:44:15.280 Wait, no, no.

04:44:16.160 You're stalking him?

04:44:17.680 No, it's too recent.

04:44:18.900 I don't want to talk about it.

04:44:19.640 You showed up at his house unannounced?

04:44:21.300 No.

04:44:22.120 Wait, did you guys hook up?

04:44:23.340 No.

04:44:24.020 Oh, okay.

04:44:25.900 Wait, a question on that really quick.

04:44:29.040 Are you now like waiting periods of time before you'll hook up with somebody?

04:44:34.960 I want to wait until I'm officially a girlfriend.

04:44:38.360 So what if they make you a girlfriend on the first date?

04:44:39.980 Like, you're my girlfriend.

04:44:43.100 Would you?

04:44:43.940 If my current crush, yes.

04:44:47.560 You would have carnal knowledge.

04:44:50.860 I think I would wait a while after being a girlfriend.

04:44:55.520 Wait, that's like two different answers.

04:44:57.320 So you said yes for your current crush.

04:44:59.380 Yes, I would have to be a girlfriend first, but I'd also have to wait a little bit.

04:45:02.660 How long would you wait?

04:45:04.440 I don't know.

04:45:05.240 It depends.

04:45:08.960 I don't know.

04:45:09.840 It depends on how.

04:45:14.800 A couple of months?

04:45:15.040 A couple of weeks, yeah.

04:45:17.100 A month?

04:45:18.120 Sure.

04:45:18.480 Is that a fair?

04:45:19.240 Yeah, a month.

04:45:20.540 That's a hard sell, Jade.

04:45:22.960 That's a hard sell.

04:45:23.900 How are you going to match with a guy on a grinder at 8 p.m.?

04:45:30.100 Meet up with him at 3 a.m.?

04:45:31.980 You've got to do a split on this.

04:45:34.360 Okay, maybe a week.

04:45:35.780 How are you going to do all that?

04:45:38.040 Go to his truck in the 7-Eleven parking lot?

04:45:41.940 The GMD gym donated $100.

04:45:44.780 Circle K.

04:45:45.400 Circle K, wow.

04:45:46.580 You are just being a first trap.

04:45:47.360 Gas station.

04:45:47.840 You are searching for the wrong attention and will get it.

04:45:51.000 Be a conservative like you say you are and take them down. 0.87

04:45:55.100 Leave the whoring to Desiree. 1.00

04:45:57.220 I just think it's kind of like when it comes to the whole bikini thing or whatever,

04:46:04.140 like the revealing photos, it's like if you're just going to claim lib, 0.98

04:46:08.100 I don't give a fuck, but it's like – 0.99

04:46:11.520 I just don't think liberal women should be the only ones allowed to be sexy. 1.00

04:46:14.700 Let me ask you a question, right?

04:46:15.720 Like if somebody said they were a vegan, but you saw them eating meat every single week,

04:46:21.820 you'd be like, yeah, you're not a vegan.

04:46:25.120 You're eating meat.

04:46:26.120 I just don't know why liberal is synonymous with being sexy.

04:46:29.380 Well, so part of conservatism has to do with like maintaining tradition, being traditional.

04:46:35.280 Part of that has to do with modesty.

04:46:37.100 Within the Christian faith, modesty.

04:46:39.900 As I said, I'm not doing anything that my relatives or female wouldn't do.

04:46:44.180 How is that? That's not even an argument.

04:46:45.780 Your relatives wouldn't do?

04:46:47.380 Yeah, my female relatives.

04:46:49.780 So that – I'm not sure if that's like a rebuttal really.

04:46:52.520 They're religious. It's just – I don't know.

04:46:56.460 I don't think I'm –

04:46:58.800 Okay, so can you just – you're Christian, right?

04:47:03.000 If somebody doesn't believe in Jesus, can they be Christian?

04:47:07.100 I just – no.

04:47:09.660 Okay.

04:47:10.240 But –

04:47:10.780 So there's certain components of the faith that they have to adhere to to be considered Christian, right?

04:47:16.340 Mm-hmm.

04:47:16.740 Okay, so like I get that – I guess your mom and your sister, they would post thirst traps and revealing –

04:47:24.880 My sister was a model, yeah, when she was my age. 1.00

04:47:28.100 Okay.

04:47:29.000 But so it's kind of like part of being conservative and Christian, there's like a modesty component to it.

04:47:39.360 So I don't think, in my opinion, that's not what that means.

04:47:45.400 I think it means how you carry yourself and how you come across.

04:47:52.120 So –

04:47:52.360 I don't think it's about what you wear.

04:47:54.460 I mean, I think it depends on the situation.

04:47:57.420 Well, but what does that mean, how you carry yourself?

04:48:00.040 What does that mean? 0.92

04:48:00.780 I think I can wear the same thing as a trashy woman and we would not come across the same. 0.99

04:48:07.700 That's possibly true. 0.51

04:48:09.040 But what if you wore nothing?

04:48:11.940 I wouldn't wear nothing.

04:48:14.100 Yeah, but why not?

04:48:17.620 Because –

04:48:18.460 Because –

04:48:19.460 I'd be naked.

04:48:21.540 What? 0.56

04:48:22.240 I'd be naked.

04:48:23.840 And the problem with that is – what about how – what if you carried yourself just really in a regal way while you were naked?

04:48:33.800 But I'm not naked.

04:48:35.600 Yeah, I know.

04:48:36.300 But if you were naked, though?

04:48:38.580 I think that's entirely different.

04:48:41.080 Why?

04:48:43.380 Because you're naked.

04:48:44.540 Yeah, I know.

04:48:46.020 I know you're naked, but I thought it was all about how you carried yourself.

04:48:50.440 It is.

04:48:51.420 With clothing, yes.

04:48:53.440 I mean, I don't think –

04:48:54.420 Well, I don't understand.

04:48:55.560 I don't understand the distinction here.

04:48:57.440 If you're wearing almost no clothing versus wearing no clothing –

04:49:02.240 I don't almost –

04:49:02.740 What is the distinction in how you carry yours?

04:49:05.280 Like, for instance, if you took off your dress and just walked down the street with your brown panties,

04:49:10.380 is there a certain way you would carry yourself that would let us know? 1.00

04:49:14.540 Desiree, shut up. 1.00

04:49:15.740 This isn't for you, Jade. 1.00

04:49:16.880 I can't tell if you're lying or confused.

04:49:19.980 As a dad, you seem lost and trying all the wrong approaches to find happiness.

04:49:25.020 It's set to see.

04:49:26.800 Yeah, well, I do have to dive into this.

04:49:28.740 I'm just wondering, if you walk down the street in your brown panties,

04:49:33.620 how are you carrying yourself differently than if you were walking down the street with nothing on?

04:49:39.000 I don't wear anything appropriate.

04:49:40.860 As I said, those outfits, they were all situational.

04:49:45.220 I swear this.

04:49:46.160 They were a rave outfit or a Halloween party or a beach party.

04:49:50.020 Yeah, well, hang on.

04:49:51.480 I'm not even talking about those.

04:49:52.880 I'm talking about this idea of how you carry yourself.

04:49:56.540 Yes, like I said.

04:49:56.720 So how could you carry yourself down the street with your brown panties versus naked?

04:50:02.480 I didn't say brown panties.

04:50:03.800 Hang on, that would make a distinction in people's minds about what it is you were about.

04:50:09.360 I didn't say bra and panties.

04:50:13.080 So I don't understand the carry yourself thing then.

04:50:15.860 What does that mean?

04:50:18.160 Are you being flashy?

04:50:20.500 Are you being, it's just how you carry yourself?

04:50:27.440 Yeah, I mean, you're just restating the thing I'm asking.

04:50:31.600 What is the thing about carrying yourself?

04:50:34.220 You say it's about how you carry yourself.

04:50:36.320 I agree.

04:50:37.420 Okay.

04:50:38.100 I'm willing to concede.

04:50:39.920 Stream Rift donated $100 to the chick that disagrees with Andrew on aborts.

04:50:45.500 Nevada law already protects abortion up to 24 weeks, brutally late.

04:50:51.440 Now they are trying to allow nine-month aborts.

04:50:54.680 Can we agree no on full-term abort?

04:50:57.060 Wow.

04:50:57.700 Dang it.

04:50:59.060 Should I answer?

04:51:03.300 You don't want to do it?

04:51:05.300 I'll have to pull it back up later.

04:51:08.500 It's just a dream or whatever.

04:51:11.620 I'll just very quickly finish this.

04:51:13.940 Stream, thank you, man.

04:51:14.880 I just want to know very briefly, the idea of it's how you carry yourself, which is what

04:51:22.020 Brian challenged.

04:51:24.840 I'm not flashy.

04:51:26.100 I'm not disrespectful.

04:51:27.480 I'm not slutty.

04:51:28.120 Wait, wait, wait. 0.89

04:51:28.660 Okay, hold on.

04:51:29.480 Let me frame it like this.

04:51:30.600 Okay. 0.86

04:51:31.220 So let's say a girl did porn and OnlyFans and did gang bangs, but she carried herself 1.00

04:51:39.700 like really well.

04:51:41.800 I did not say that.

04:51:43.400 I'm not.

04:51:44.320 Okay.

04:51:44.680 Can you engage with a hypothetical?

04:51:46.200 Sure. 0.88

04:51:46.540 So, but she did porn. 1.00

04:51:49.680 Would you? 0.94

04:51:50.280 But she says, well, I'm a, I'm a good Christian.

04:51:52.760 I'm a conservative.

04:51:53.920 I'm traditional. 1.00

04:51:55.220 But she does gang bangs and porn and all that shit. 1.00

04:51:57.460 That's not the same thing. 1.00

04:51:59.060 I think that's okay.

04:52:00.160 Yes.

04:52:00.480 There's degrees to it.

04:52:01.640 Obviously.

04:52:02.720 Can she claim to be a traditional conservative woman? 1.00

04:52:06.960 Nowhere in that scripture.

04:52:08.840 Answer the question.

04:52:09.680 Does it say I can't know?

04:52:12.480 Ah, nowhere what?

04:52:14.760 No.

04:52:15.920 Nowhere.

04:52:16.520 So just to be clear, God's totally cool with you dressing like super revealing out in public.

04:52:23.180 No issue with it.

04:52:24.400 There's no component of modesty when it comes to Christianity.

04:52:27.100 I think modesty is not that.

04:52:30.640 I don't think it has anything to do with showing skin. 0.99

04:52:33.560 Then why can't you walk down the fucking street naked? 1.00

04:52:38.320 And be modest. 1.00

04:52:40.740 I mean, revealing your genitals is something completely different. 0.85

04:52:44.220 You just said it has nothing to do with revealing your skin. 0.97

04:52:48.400 Yeah, skin, not genitals.

04:52:50.780 Oh, I'm sorry.

04:52:51.920 Is that not skin?

04:52:52.800 Wait, wait.

04:52:53.260 Hold on.

04:52:54.320 What?

04:52:54.900 Hang on.

04:52:55.280 Now you hold on.

04:52:57.020 How is that not revealing your skin?

04:53:00.240 Wait, hold on.

04:53:00.760 There is actually something in the Bible.

04:53:02.200 I just Googled it.

04:53:02.960 There's something in the Bible about this.

04:53:05.060 The Bible teaches.

04:53:06.860 Old man Marine donated $100.

04:53:10.240 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life is not of the Father, but is of the world.

04:53:19.820 First John 2.16.

04:53:21.880 Old man Marine, thank you for the message.

04:53:23.540 Thank you for the TTS.

04:53:24.440 Appreciate it, man.

04:53:24.880 Brian, I am so confused.

04:53:27.840 Can you unconfuse us here?

04:53:29.220 I'm so confused by this.

04:53:31.240 So, I mean, I just Googled it.

04:53:33.220 I just Googled modesty Christianity, and it says Christians should dress modestly and be conscious of the shamefulness of public nakedness.

04:53:42.240 For example, 1 Timothy 2.8-10 says that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel with modesty and self-control.

04:53:50.980 So, now that I've quoted you something directly from the Bible, do you want to walk back your position?

04:53:58.040 Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't think I'm, I'm not.

04:54:02.180 Wait, wearing, okay.

04:54:03.360 I have self-control.

04:54:05.100 I'm not being, I'm not like that.

04:54:10.020 Can I say something?

04:54:11.200 But, but here's the thing.

04:54:14.200 I understand.

04:54:15.540 So, I think I can steel man what you're saying.

04:54:18.940 Listen, I'm dressing provocatively, but how you carry yourself is an entailment.

04:54:24.500 I know who I am.

04:54:25.660 How, how, how I would actually behave towards a person has nothing to do with how I'm dressing.

04:54:32.740 Is that, is that essentially what you're saying?

04:54:35.340 Yes.

04:54:36.400 Okay.

04:54:37.020 Wait, that's fair.

04:54:37.740 Okay, let's ask you, if that is the case, why couldn't you walk down the street totally naked and just carry yourself in a certain way? 0.98

04:54:48.160 Because genitals are not the same. 0.99

04:54:50.540 So, then if you just wore two little tiny tassels around your nipples. 1.00

04:54:55.080 I would never do that. 1.00

04:54:56.400 And then just cover the vagina and then the ass crack with like a small thin strap. 1.00

04:55:02.420 What would be the problem there? 1.00

04:55:05.360 I'm not saying that.

04:55:07.060 Me, personally, I believe it depends on the situation.

04:55:12.660 Like, I would not dress in anything little in front of anybody's parents.

04:55:18.280 And, as I said, those were all...

04:55:20.100 You're dressing online like that in front of people's parents. 0.99

04:55:23.260 You don't give a shit. 0.99

04:55:24.040 I was going to say that those were all situational. 1.00

04:55:26.920 They were Halloween parties.

04:55:28.180 They were costumes.

04:55:29.080 I don't just dress like that.

04:55:30.920 But, yo, yo, yo.

04:55:31.700 They wear bikinis. 0.99

04:55:31.900 It's one, okay, hold on.

04:55:32.800 It's one thing.

04:55:33.920 Even if we grant that in these situations...

04:55:36.340 Am I not allowed to wear bikinis as a term?

04:55:37.680 Even if we grant that it was situationally okay.

04:55:40.820 When you go ahead and post it on the internet without the context...

04:55:46.580 There's context.

04:55:49.280 Pull up her dating profile again, please.

04:55:52.900 Go ahead.

04:55:53.280 Make her point.

04:55:55.080 No, I was thinking that like on the Bible, like Christianism or whatever says that you should not hook up.

04:56:02.560 Hook up?

04:56:03.120 Yeah.

04:56:03.400 Before marriage, you should not get divorced.

04:56:05.840 You should not like do a lot of stuff.

04:56:07.320 I don't know.

04:56:07.740 I'm not Christian. 0.83

04:56:08.340 So, like, I don't think that Christians do all this stuff.

04:56:15.120 Sure.

04:56:15.800 So, I don't do these kind of things.

04:56:18.880 But I think that if you're confident with that and you feel good, whatever.

04:56:24.520 Like, I mean...

04:56:26.520 Well, do you think then...

04:56:27.940 Do you think then just to ask you...

04:56:30.460 Wait, hold on.

04:56:31.120 Hold on.

04:56:32.420 Go ahead.

04:56:33.700 Go ahead.

04:56:34.040 No, that if we put, like, all this stuff on, like, your religion, I don't think, like, it's the point.

04:56:43.560 I don't know.

04:56:44.100 So, what is the point?

04:56:46.420 No, the point is, like, you can ask why she does it, why, like, whatever.

04:56:51.360 But it's not about, like, modesty for the Christianism or whatever.

04:56:55.700 Because if someone has to, I think, I mean, if you're a Christian, you should do everything then...

04:57:04.380 So, let me ask you a question.

04:57:05.260 So, what happens if you claim, the reason that I believe the things I believe is due to the fact that I'm a Christian?

04:57:14.160 And then you move against the very ethics of the thing, which is being Christian. 0.81

04:57:21.220 How do you reconcile that?

04:57:25.140 Sorry, I didn't understand.

04:57:27.160 I'm sorry.

04:57:27.980 So, let us assume.

04:57:29.960 So, you're in Greek, right?

04:57:31.160 Or, you're Greek?

04:57:32.240 Is that what you said?

04:57:33.260 No, I said it...

04:57:35.080 Oh, Italian. 0.97

04:57:36.000 Italian.

04:57:36.880 Yeah.

04:57:37.500 Italian.

04:57:37.900 Yeah.

04:57:38.720 Orthodox? 0.56

04:57:40.540 I mean, what am I wearing?

04:57:42.260 Hang on, hang on.

04:57:43.220 Guy in pink shirt donated $100.

04:57:46.820 Love the show.

04:57:47.940 Watching a few hours behind.

04:57:50.220 We should encourage men to not be afraid of rejection.

04:57:53.360 It builds character and confidence.

04:57:55.960 Encouraging women to approach men only feminizes men more. 0.72

04:58:01.020 All right.

04:58:01.820 Thank you for the TTS, man.

04:58:03.420 Appreciate it.

04:58:04.060 Thank you.

04:58:04.440 So, I'm sorry.

04:58:06.220 Catholic or Orthodox?

04:58:08.240 Catholic?

04:58:09.680 No, I'm nothing.

04:58:10.560 I'm...

04:58:11.440 Yeah, I know, but you were born Catholic?

04:58:15.100 Yeah.

04:58:16.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

04:58:16.900 Born...

04:58:17.180 So, you were baptized Catholic?

04:58:18.560 Yeah.

04:58:19.440 Yeah.

04:58:20.300 And what do the Catholics think about photos like that?

04:58:24.220 Yeah, no, I know what they say.

04:58:25.660 Like, that's not something Catholic.

04:58:29.640 Like, you should not do that.

04:58:31.380 You should not get divorced.

04:58:33.980 You should not do a lot of stuff.

04:58:37.820 So, like...

04:58:39.100 And I know a lot...

04:58:40.680 And you should not judge.

04:58:42.100 I went to, like, the Catholic school.

04:58:46.580 Yeah. 1.00

04:58:47.160 And I met a lot of people that judge gays, that did shit. 1.00

04:58:53.580 And they were, like... 1.00

04:58:54.520 But you don't consider yourself a Catholic, right?

04:58:57.200 No, I don't.

04:58:58.660 Right.

04:58:59.020 But imagine if somebody did, and then did those things.

04:59:04.240 Would you say they were Catholic?

04:59:07.680 I say that I saw...

04:59:09.380 I saw so many people doing it and saying that they're Catholic, that I think that we are not...

04:59:15.060 They were wrong, right?

04:59:15.900 They weren't acting in a way that was Catholic, right?

04:59:18.620 They don't follow all the rules, but I think that now we're in a period that a lot, like...

04:59:25.720 Yeah, but what if you...

04:59:27.300 I don't know...

04:59:27.860 I don't say they...

04:59:28.500 I get it.

04:59:29.160 I get it.

04:59:29.740 Listen.

04:59:30.720 You can say people should be able to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else.

04:59:36.260 That's fine, right?

04:59:37.540 I'm conceding that.

04:59:39.460 I'm just asking if somebody says that they're a Catholic...

04:59:42.540 I see.

04:59:43.080 ...and then does do those things, are they a Catholic?

04:59:47.220 That's my question.

04:59:48.020 I think that, like, if someone, I don't know, like, believes in God and says, okay, I'm Catholic

04:59:53.840 because I believe in God and whatever, like, okay, and they don't want to follow everything,

05:00:01.500 I mean, if it feels good for them, it's fine.

05:00:06.020 Like, you can...

05:00:06.760 So, wait, so I just want to make sure I got this right.

05:00:09.860 The official Catholic teaching is that if it feels good to you, it's fine?

05:00:15.260 No, no, that's not the teaching.

05:00:16.660 No, no, no, so what is the teaching?

05:00:19.920 So what is the teaching?

05:00:21.200 No, the teaching, we agree.

05:00:22.140 We agree that the teaching says that you should not follow them.

05:00:23.980 Well, then if we agree, then are they actually Catholic if they say you should do this,

05:00:31.960 and then they do the opposition on purpose, on purpose, are they being Catholic?

05:00:38.780 I mean, I...

05:00:41.160 Who cares donated $100?

05:00:43.600 This is a lost conversation.

05:00:45.900 My mom was the old traditional kind and barely showed skin. 1.00

05:00:49.760 This new age traditional crap isn't traditional at all. 0.98

05:00:53.820 BTW, Morgan, chin up. 0.99

05:00:56.580 You look very bored.

05:00:57.780 I know my relationship with God, and I know that I practice, and it's very deep to me,

05:01:07.600 and I think I'm just appreciating the femininity and femaleness that I almost lost.

05:01:16.760 And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but if you think that, then that's fine.

05:01:21.500 Okay, here's my position.

05:01:22.700 I'll try to make it as simple as possible.

05:01:24.860 I don't care that you have revealing photos, but, like, can you at least concede that it's not modest?

05:01:33.080 I mean, I don't agree with...

05:01:36.700 Like, I don't read that scripture the way other people do, I think.

05:01:41.720 Okay, I'm not even talking about religion at this point.

05:01:45.680 You're not traditional.

05:01:47.620 You're not really conservative.

05:01:49.200 I am.

05:01:49.860 And you're not modest.

05:01:50.920 You're traditional.

05:01:52.060 Yes.

05:01:52.260 You're a traditional woman. 0.98

05:01:53.340 Yes. 1.00

05:01:54.480 Holy shit. 0.99

05:01:55.520 Okay, I, like... 0.99

05:01:58.260 Oh, my God.

05:01:59.260 I'm not doing anything different that other women my age aren't.

05:02:02.840 I don't understand.

05:02:03.380 And they're not traditional women.

05:02:05.560 Some are.

05:02:06.320 I don't understand.

05:02:07.220 Hold on.

05:02:07.740 You're not doing anything different that women you're... 1.00

05:02:10.640 That's not evidence that they're traditional or that you're traditional.

05:02:17.180 I think it's your beliefs and your religion.

05:02:20.520 I don't think it has anything to do with your appearance.

05:02:25.480 It has nothing to do with your appearance.

05:02:28.160 No.

05:02:28.700 Wait, sorry.

05:02:29.120 You had something?

05:02:29.720 It doesn't.

05:02:31.220 Go ahead.

05:02:31.640 No, I just thought...

05:02:32.720 I don't want to say anything.

05:02:33.440 Go ahead.

05:02:33.860 Say it.

05:02:34.020 No, no, no, no.

05:02:34.480 It's like, can I?

05:02:35.660 It has nothing to do...

05:02:37.180 No.

05:02:37.880 This is...

05:02:38.280 I've never even heard this.

05:02:39.300 Most liberal women will be like, yeah, I dress revealing and provocative and, like, 1.00

05:02:44.340 you just own up.

05:02:44.660 But I don't.

05:02:45.440 As I said, those were costumes.

05:02:47.620 They're revealing.

05:02:48.620 You don't think those photos are revealing?

05:02:50.220 Yes, but they were costumes.

05:02:51.500 I don't just go out and dress that way.

05:02:54.260 You literally do, though.

05:02:55.940 I don't.

05:02:56.980 You literally do.

05:03:00.100 What am I supposed to dress like as a 24-year-old?

05:03:01.660 Here's a photo of you dressing this way.

05:03:03.240 I don't dress this way, but here's a photo of me dressing this way.

05:03:05.360 What am I supposed to dress like as a 24-year-old?

05:03:07.300 Good question.

05:03:08.040 Good question.

05:03:08.620 Good question.

05:03:08.900 So the question to you, as the self-identified Christian, how are you supposed to dress?

05:03:19.060 As I said, I grew up religiously.

05:03:21.320 I'm not doing anything that my sister or my mom...

05:03:23.800 Oh, my God.

05:03:25.060 I don't even understand that argument.

05:03:26.860 I don't understand that argument.

05:03:28.980 Can I say something?

05:03:30.020 I just... 1.00

05:03:30.540 Holy shit. 1.00

05:03:30.660 I don't know any Christian or Catholic that just doesn't dress like me or look like me. 1.00

05:03:36.460 I don't know.

05:03:37.600 I don't know what you expect us to look like.

05:03:39.680 Bro, there's Catholics... 1.00

05:03:40.800 Oh, my...

05:03:42.060 I don't even know.

05:03:43.940 I mean, Andrew, you smoke, by the way.

05:03:46.320 I don't think that's in the Bible.

05:03:47.480 Oh, no.

05:03:48.000 You smoke.

05:03:48.220 Oh, my God.

05:03:49.080 Well, I mean, if we're talking about listening to everything the Bible says, I mean, come on.

05:03:53.600 Oh, my God.

05:03:53.780 He's heard this one so many times.

05:03:55.980 Well, if you're going to quote the Bible and say...

05:03:58.420 Hang on, hang on.

05:03:58.440 Which book can we find, Thou Shalt Not Smoke?

05:04:02.000 Oh, I remember vaguely the quote was, don't indulge in things that are only for pleasure and addictions.

05:04:13.200 Addiction.

05:04:13.740 That's what it was.

05:04:14.580 Addiction.

05:04:15.960 Oh, where is that?

05:04:17.000 Smoking is probably...

05:04:17.720 Where can I find that?

05:04:18.740 I'll bring up the quote.

05:04:20.040 Search can you smoke Bible.

05:04:22.300 Well, yeah, so I have the Orthodox teachings from the original Church of Jesus Christ, which

05:04:28.800 I'm a part of, and you know what they say about smoking?

05:04:33.520 Do you?

05:04:34.940 No, you can definitely interpret it.

05:04:37.740 Bro, you're going to take a big fat L on this.

05:04:40.360 There's no official church doctrine on smoking. 1.00

05:04:43.300 They don't give a fucking shit about smoking. 1.00

05:04:45.440 Bro, just concede. 1.00

05:04:46.900 Let me just help you out.

05:04:47.660 Just concede to Andrew.

05:04:48.840 Wait, but...

05:04:49.120 You're going to take a big fat L on this.

05:04:51.240 Just concede the point.

05:04:52.340 Wait, wait.

05:04:52.660 Just concede the point.

05:04:53.540 Trust me.

05:04:54.000 Wait, let me go look it up.

05:04:54.680 But Andrew, you smoke.

05:04:56.320 But Andrew, you smoke.

05:04:57.440 Wait, but I'll go look it up.

05:04:59.220 Bro, just concede on this point.

05:05:01.100 Just resign.

05:05:02.000 No, I'll go look it up.

05:05:03.780 Why do you need to...

05:05:04.540 No, no, no.

05:05:05.340 You're saying I'm wrong.

05:05:05.540 Stay, stay.

05:05:06.180 I just got to ask you, though.

05:05:08.420 What about alcohol?

05:05:10.220 Alcohol's bad, right?

05:05:10.400 Yeah, that's an addiction, is it not?

05:05:12.520 I mean, if you're...

05:05:13.020 Yeah, well, alcohol...

05:05:14.320 So, is alcohol bad?

05:05:16.200 Is drinking alcohol bad?

05:05:18.280 Sorry, that wasn't for you.

05:05:19.300 Not to...

05:05:19.760 That was something else.

05:05:20.460 Oh, not for me.

05:05:21.580 Wait, wait.

05:05:22.160 I just got to ask you, is drinking alcohol bad?

05:05:25.060 From a Christian purview, from a Christian perspective, should drinking alcohol be bad?

05:05:29.980 No, no.

05:05:30.960 I mean, I don't...

05:05:31.580 I think they allow alcohol, like, in moderation.

05:05:34.200 They have ceremonies that involve alcohol, I'm pretty sure.

05:05:37.520 Pretty sure you're allowed to.

05:05:37.980 So, drinking alcohol's not bad?

05:05:39.180 I think chain-smoking is probably bad in Christian addiction. 1.00

05:05:44.300 I can go look it up, but you told me not to.

05:05:48.160 No, no, no.

05:05:49.140 You can look it up. 1.00

05:05:50.300 I'm happy to compete with any bullshit that you come up with. 0.99

05:05:53.380 I can't wait. 1.00

05:05:55.740 Wait, so...

05:05:56.520 Go look it up.

05:05:57.220 Are you willing to concede that you're not modest?

05:05:59.100 Um, outside of those costumes, I'd say, I don't know.

05:06:07.740 I think I just dress like every other woman my age.

05:06:14.040 I don't...

05:06:14.380 Sure.

05:06:15.600 See, I don't see myself as any different.

05:06:18.180 I don't know.

05:06:18.700 Okay, hold on.

05:06:19.040 Do you think that the majority of men that you encounter are traditional princes?

05:06:27.140 Are they?

05:06:28.760 The two dates...

05:06:29.380 No, no, no.

05:06:29.780 Answer the question.

05:06:31.000 What?

05:06:31.840 Oh, my God, bro. 1.00

05:06:32.880 Holy shit. 1.00

05:06:33.980 I'm kind of seeing it now. 0.99

05:06:35.640 Okay.

05:06:35.900 Can you answer the question?

05:06:38.460 Yeah.

05:06:40.100 That I just asked.

05:06:41.040 No, I...

05:06:41.980 Do you think most men are traditional men?

05:06:43.820 No.

05:06:44.660 Do you think most men are princes?

05:06:46.860 No.

05:06:47.340 But they're acting just like all the other men are acting. 0.64

05:06:50.640 I never said that.

05:06:56.500 Oh, my God.

05:06:57.640 You're saying, I am modest because all the other women are also dressing in this way,

05:07:02.560 so this is the sort of status quo, ergo, it is within the realm of normal modesty,

05:07:08.380 because other women dress this way. 1.00

05:07:10.480 I just think I dress normally.

05:07:12.080 When I reverse it, and so you're saying, well, so if you're traditional, right?

05:07:16.660 So are all the other women traditional, too?

05:07:19.900 Some, yeah.

05:07:21.160 I think so.

05:07:23.720 Oh, my God.

05:07:24.480 There are traditional women, and then there aren't. 1.00

05:07:26.240 I just have one last follow-up question on this topic.

05:07:30.000 Do you have any pictures of you?

05:07:32.260 GMD Jim donated $100.

05:07:35.020 Did you ever hear the saying, if everybody else jumped off of a bridge, would you?

05:07:40.260 You call yourself traditional and Christian, but you compare yourself to the world.

05:07:45.880 Christians are set apart. 1.00

05:07:47.180 I compare myself to other Christians that I know and Catholics.

05:07:51.600 And by the way, I disagree with his comments, or I do think you have to engage with the world as a Christian.

05:07:56.560 I think that that is part of being a Christian.

05:07:58.860 But I will ask you this.

05:08:01.940 Right this second, right now, as we're speaking, why is what you're wearing modest?

05:08:09.160 I mean, it's just a dress.

05:08:14.400 Yeah, why is it modest?

05:08:18.080 I don't know.

05:08:20.960 Okay.

05:08:21.320 I think it's just a dress.

05:08:22.280 I'm not dressed inappropriately.

05:08:23.620 It's just a dress.

05:08:25.440 Yeah, what makes it not inappropriate or appropriate?

05:08:28.180 I don't think it's inappropriate.

05:08:31.860 Based on?

05:08:33.480 It's just a dress.

05:08:36.660 Well, the thing is...

05:08:38.980 What is inappropriate about it?

05:08:40.180 So, I mean, this is where we're getting into the crux, right?

05:08:43.380 So, I don't want to get into the, oh, well, there's just nothing you can do where it's not bad.

05:08:48.900 I'm just trying to figure out the kind of designation of what you think is appropriate.

05:08:55.800 Like, if we can post, like, basically nude pictures, bra and panties to the Instagram, and that's fine because it's about how we carry ourselves.

05:09:05.340 But we can also show up at the Whatever podcast with a very revealing dress, and let's not kid ourselves, it is.

05:09:11.580 Where's our line here?

05:09:14.880 How do I dress differently than other women my age?

05:09:17.660 I don't know what you expect them to dress like.

05:09:19.400 Let's assume you don't.

05:09:20.120 Let's assume they all dress the same way you do.

05:09:22.060 I know Christians my age, Christian women.

05:09:23.340 I'm just asking within the Christian purview.

05:09:25.500 I'm not any different.

05:09:27.100 Yeah, but is Christianity about doing what everybody else does, or...?

05:09:32.580 No, I don't think that anybody is perfect in their faith.

05:09:38.180 Yeah, I'm not claiming anybody's perfect in anything.

05:09:41.620 I'm just saying, I'm just asking you, right now, right this second,

05:09:47.660 you're in front of God, and you're justifying to him why what you're wearing is appropriate.

05:09:53.180 It's not inappropriate.

05:09:54.040 For walking around in the streets of Santa Barbara, you say to him this thing.

05:09:57.980 In 90 degree weather, in a dress that is almost at my knees is not inappropriate.

05:10:04.040 And what about at the chest?

05:10:07.180 My dress?

05:10:08.640 Yeah.

05:10:09.340 The top?

05:10:09.700 It's just a dress.

05:10:11.960 It's not inappropriate.

05:10:13.580 Okay.

05:10:16.260 I don't feel like we ever, we got any closer to what is appropriate, but okay.

05:10:21.340 I mean, I guess only God knows.

05:10:23.800 You know, there is specific, there's actually specific criteria for this.

05:10:27.140 GMD Jim donated $100, Andrew, you understand, in, not of, she is being, of, that is part

05:10:37.220 of her stumbling block.

05:10:39.400 Yeah, okay, so I think that that's a much fairer way of putting it.

05:10:43.520 You do live in the world, doesn't mean you have to be of the world, but I do think you

05:10:47.260 should participate in the world, even while you're not of it, if that makes sense to you,

05:10:53.020 Jim, but, but here, kind of back to this, the reason I'm asking this is I'm just, I'm just

05:10:59.440 looking for, like, a simple delineation point of when it's not about how you feel, and when

05:11:04.760 it's about what's objectively true.

05:11:06.460 I'm just not doing anything different that other women my age aren't. 0.98

05:11:12.520 So, if all the women your age were fucking a different man every night, you would do that? 0.99

05:11:16.700 No, definitely not. 1.00

05:11:17.980 You would, if ever, all the women your age were smoking crack, you would do that? 0.96

05:11:21.440 What do you expect me to dress like?

05:11:24.200 It's not a matter of what I expect you to dress like.

05:11:26.320 As a Christian woman that I know, I'm just the same.

05:11:27.560 I'm asking from your view, if all the women your age were smoking crack, why would you 1.00

05:11:32.660 not smoke crack?

05:11:34.720 Because I personally wouldn't.

05:11:37.880 Okay, what about your faith?

05:11:39.840 Does that inform that?

05:11:42.120 No, I just personally wouldn't.

05:11:44.420 Okay, so you don't think it has anything to do with Christianity that you don't smoke crack,

05:11:48.460 or?

05:11:50.120 No.

05:11:50.520 No, okay.

05:11:52.500 All right, I'm willing to leave it there, Brian.

05:11:55.360 I got that quote for you, if you want.

05:11:58.400 Can't wait to hear it.

05:12:00.280 Okay.

05:12:00.600 Go ahead.

05:12:01.440 Well, it's definitely interpretable, but it says,

05:12:05.020 I will not be mastered by anything.

05:12:06.920 Vector donated $100. 1.00

05:12:09.560 What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. 0.99

05:12:14.460 At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could 1.00

05:12:19.380 be considered brew?

05:12:21.880 By the way, that's from a movie.

05:12:23.380 Thank you, Vector.

05:12:23.700 A great movie.

05:12:24.720 Yes.

05:12:25.920 I think that's Billy Madison.

05:12:27.420 But anyway, what's the quote?

05:12:29.220 It is, I will not be, everything is permissible by me, but not everything is beneficial.

05:12:34.200 Everything is permissible for me, but I will not be mastered by anything.

05:12:38.580 So, this person, this article that interpreted it, so you could, you could, you could, you

05:12:44.320 could, how do you interpret it?

05:12:46.900 Uh, well, I, I'd say you are mastered by an addiction.

05:12:51.240 I think that that's, that's what, I mean, this, uh, Christian interpreters.

05:12:58.260 Do you know what the, do you know what the passions are?

05:13:00.760 The passions?

05:13:02.400 Mm-hmm.

05:13:03.480 I mean, do you think that you are not mastered by an addiction?

05:13:07.180 Before you ask me, before you ask me a question, answer mine, then I'll answer one of yours.

05:13:11.180 No, no.

05:13:11.540 Do you know what the passions are?

05:13:13.060 No.

05:13:14.180 Yeah, so like, uh, anger, right?

05:13:17.880 Love.

05:13:19.040 You would consider those to be passions, right?

05:13:22.480 Emotions, sure.

05:13:23.940 Yeah, things which need to be mastered.

05:13:27.820 Sure.

05:13:28.860 Now, let me ask you a question.

05:13:30.260 Um, have you ever seen somebody, uh, who smokes become more induced towards love or rage or

05:13:37.880 any of these passions?

05:13:39.940 Uh, no, honestly.

05:13:41.660 No. 1.00

05:13:42.080 Well, and that's why you're full of shit and don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 1.00

05:13:45.600 So the thing is, is that in every other case of the drug that you might bring up, you might 1.00

05:13:50.460 have a good case to make because this is in reference to the passion.

05:13:54.380 So any other drug is...

05:13:55.780 What has happened, what has happened instead, is that we have taken the one drug that you

05:14:00.100 can come up with.

05:14:00.600 The killer of serial donated $100.

05:14:02.580 She is being in the mindset of a freak in the sheets, but just a half-naked lady in the 1.00

05:14:07.560 streets.

05:14:08.700 Definitely of a God-fearing woman who holds herself to a higher calling, as high as her 0.98

05:14:13.880 nipple line.

05:14:14.600 Anyway, you happened to pick the one drug that had nothing to do with the influence of the

05:14:22.300 passions by your own admission.

05:14:23.780 Great job.

05:14:24.500 You just told every Christian that smoking is not problematic, has nothing to do with 0.70

05:14:28.180 their passions, has nothing to do with self-mastery.

05:14:31.380 Fantastic work.

05:14:33.040 Thank you very much. 0.98

05:14:33.980 Brian did tell you you would take the L. Take that fucking L. You deserve it all the 0.99

05:14:38.040 way. 1.00

05:14:38.520 I don't think I took an L.

05:14:39.580 All right.

05:14:41.660 A lot to get through here.

05:14:43.480 Um, so I did want to, I was trying to get to this, um, so I was asking you, you want

05:14:52.240 to wait, uh, a month for this new guy or whatever, or a new guy?

05:14:56.540 Yeah.

05:14:57.580 After I become a girlfriend.

05:14:59.300 Yeah.

05:15:00.640 Isn't that kind of...

05:15:01.720 Oh, sorry about that.

05:15:04.200 My bad.

05:15:04.700 I'm sorry.

05:15:07.560 GMD Jim donated $100.

05:15:10.460 Yes, Andrew.

05:15:11.380 I most certainly understand.

05:15:14.080 Been serving the Lord for a while.

05:15:16.440 Do you understand reading your Dono chats?

05:15:19.460 Yeah, I can't do it while we're live streaming.

05:15:21.420 I'm here on whatever.

05:15:22.520 I'm on Brian's time.

05:15:24.020 We read the Dono chats after this stream.

05:15:27.380 Thank you, Jim, for the TTS.

05:15:29.320 So here's where I'm a little confused.

05:15:31.540 So you previously, the first guy, or the first guy had sex with him within an hour of meeting

05:15:38.360 him.

05:15:39.960 But now you want to make the new guy wait a month?

05:15:46.560 Oh, after becoming a girlfriend.

05:15:49.220 I don't know.

05:15:49.760 As long as I'm a girlfriend first.

05:15:51.820 But don't you think that's kind of a little silly? 0.51

05:15:56.380 You know?

05:15:56.560 No, I don't want to...

05:15:58.160 Shouldn't it have been the reverse?

05:15:59.520 Like, the guy you lose your virginity to, you wait?

05:16:03.280 Like, okay, you tell me this, and I'm like, hold on. 0.88

05:16:08.420 So just to be clear, so the guy you lost your virginity to, you matched with him on a gay 0.99

05:16:14.000 dating app, you went to a truck stop, you fucked him in the truck within an hour of meeting 0.99

05:16:18.540 him, he was homeless, and... 1.00

05:16:21.380 Bisexual.

05:16:22.620 Yeah.

05:16:24.280 But here I am, a good guy.

05:16:27.160 Yeah.

05:16:27.980 And I have to wait a month? 1.00

05:16:29.940 But, like, you fucked, you lost your virginity to a homeless truck driver? 1.00

05:16:35.540 And he hit within an hour? 1.00

05:16:38.460 And on the first date, and I gotta wait?

05:16:42.480 That's crazy.

05:16:43.320 Maybe she learned her lesson the hard way.

05:16:45.660 And changed her...

05:16:46.040 Bro, that's crazy.

05:16:46.880 I just don't want to...

05:16:48.500 I've always had to update my protocol, each bad experience I have.

05:16:51.880 I just don't want to add to my body count that is already very low to a guy that isn't going

05:16:58.220 to commit to me.

05:16:59.920 I need to know that he...

05:17:01.180 That's a hard sell, man.

05:17:02.280 Go ahead, go ahead.

05:17:02.960 I need to know that he's going to commit, because honestly, I just want my person, and...

05:17:11.960 Yeah.

05:17:13.660 Sure.

05:17:13.840 I just want to give him...

05:17:15.840 Me and no one else.

05:17:17.300 I don't just want to sleep around.

05:17:20.660 And I know that's kind of contradicting because of what I've been through, but...

05:17:25.580 That happened because I was essayed, and I was just desperate to lose it, consensually.

05:17:34.320 That does...

05:17:35.320 I'm a little confused, I mean, by that.

05:17:42.640 Wouldn't you be, like, you just...

05:17:44.660 How...

05:17:45.000 Wait, how soon after you were essayed did this...

05:17:47.640 About three months after.

05:17:50.460 Wouldn't...

05:17:50.920 It's called a grape trauma response.

05:17:53.760 It's very common.

05:17:56.820 It's a thing.

05:17:57.240 It's a thing.

05:17:58.820 Very funny that the distinct difference between men and women, men do get essayed, and they

05:18:04.400 get essayed often.

05:18:05.880 It's so interesting to me how much, though, the accountability for women goes back to, 0.98

05:18:10.420 I do this bad behavior because of essay, and it's not excused in men at all, ever.

05:18:15.820 How do men get essayed all the time?

05:18:18.200 I don't think women know that. 1.00

05:18:18.800 Especially when they're young, well, hang on, especially when they're young, you do realize

05:18:22.240 that this is true.

05:18:23.320 It happens to men as well, and yet, they're not allowed to use it as a crutch for a current

05:18:31.980 bad behavior.

05:18:33.280 In fact, society shrugs it off.

05:18:35.360 They say, it doesn't matter if this horrible thing happened to you, you must be held to account

05:18:40.320 for the thing you're currently doing, and yet, for some reason, for women, they can call 0.80

05:18:44.380 back to an essay.

05:18:45.040 I don't think men are talking about it.

05:18:46.460 Yet, for women, they can call back to an essay story, and somehow, that's supposed to lend 1.00

05:18:51.640 more credibility to the shit behavior they have right now. 0.99

05:18:55.300 Can you explain that to me? 0.99

05:18:57.880 I'm not excusing it.

05:19:00.040 I don't like that that happened, but I think it led me to where I am now.

05:19:05.600 I'm sorry.

05:19:07.980 I would never do it.

05:19:08.900 I wasn't looking at that actually.

05:19:10.060 I was trying to do it.

05:19:10.780 I was trying to do it.

05:19:11.780 I was trying to do it.

05:19:12.380 If you want commitment before sex, then here's a surefire way.

05:19:16.760 Tell him you only let men hit it raw.

05:19:19.160 Hence, you need commitment and exclusivity in a relationship before hooking up.

05:19:23.720 Yeah, like, for instance, I could never, I could never, for instance, I could never excuse current

05:19:31.040 bad behavior by saying it's because Desiree sexually assaulted me and Brian.

05:19:35.880 It's not current.

05:19:36.780 Brian and I could never in a million years, hang on, Brian and I, stop, Desiree, let me

05:19:41.860 finish my point.

05:19:43.000 Brian and I could never in a million years excuse current bad behavior because Desiree over there 0.95

05:19:48.800 sexually assaulted us.

05:19:49.960 We couldn't do it.

05:19:51.020 And yet, for some reason, perfectly acceptable for women to do that. 1.00

05:19:55.980 I am not using it as an excuse.

05:19:57.680 I'm explaining my reasoning as to why I met up with a stranger.

05:20:01.560 It was wrong and I shouldn't have done it.

05:20:05.440 But my mindset was...

05:20:07.080 So you brought it up, the context you brought it up in is saying you have a brand new standard

05:20:13.940 for new men where, despite you having lost your virginity, your new standard is, I got 0.93

05:20:20.080 to date the guy for a whole month.

05:20:22.020 This could mean meeting up, like, a handful of times, multiple times, 10 times, 15 times,

05:20:28.720 whatever.

05:20:29.960 You're going to wait and make him...

05:20:31.580 It's not a standard.

05:20:34.040 I mean, I don't know.

05:20:34.460 What do you mean?

05:20:34.800 You just said you're the next guy.

05:20:36.480 I said I would like to.

05:20:38.620 I mean, if...

05:20:39.900 I just want commitment, honestly.

05:20:41.720 I don't...

05:20:42.720 As I said, I don't want to.

05:20:44.120 You just want commitment?

05:20:47.220 Yeah.

05:20:47.480 Okay, so that's...

05:20:48.280 No, no, no.

05:20:48.900 You said, even if he says, okay, on the first date, I will be your boyfriend, you would still

05:20:53.900 wait.

05:20:56.740 I guess it wouldn't be the same day.

05:21:00.620 Well, and then let's assume that most guys aren't going to do that and they're going to

05:21:04.500 want to date you for a period of time.

05:21:07.960 So, oh my God.

05:21:11.720 I mean, yeah, if we're dating, if we're seeing each other, if we're exclusive and he's just

05:21:16.100 not asking me yet, then...

05:21:17.800 Hold on.

05:21:18.280 Ladies at the table, how long does it take you to get exclusivity and boyfriend-girlfriend 1.00

05:21:22.760 from a dude?

05:21:24.020 How long?

05:21:26.340 Three months?

05:21:27.820 Four months?

05:21:28.580 Six months?

05:21:29.000 How long does it take you?

05:21:29.960 It depends from the situation.

05:21:31.740 Average.

05:21:32.060 Like, for me, like, by my side, then I don't know the other side, like, two months, but

05:21:38.740 I would...

05:21:40.740 Yeah, I'll see, like, a month and a half for me.

05:21:43.360 Bye, you've got...

05:21:44.360 Anybody else want to weigh in on this?

05:21:46.360 I, for some reason, get the ones that want to, like, breed me. 0.87

05:21:49.680 That's cool.

05:21:50.340 Okay.

05:21:50.900 I would have a conversation about it with them, so I wouldn't have a...

05:21:55.440 Could be...

05:21:56.820 So...

05:21:57.420 I mean, I don't know.

05:21:58.200 I've never experienced that.

05:21:59.860 I've never gotten...

05:22:01.760 Had anything normal.

05:22:03.220 So, let's say you go on a date with a guy, and it's going well, and he's like, hey,

05:22:06.240 do you want to go back to my place?

05:22:07.800 Would you say no?

05:22:09.500 I would go to his place?

05:22:12.060 Yeah.

05:22:12.480 Okay, the...

05:22:14.060 The underlying... 0.99

05:22:16.180 He wants to have sex. 0.99

05:22:17.240 He wants to hook up. 0.99

05:22:19.000 Would you have...

05:22:19.600 If it were, like, the second date, no. 0.98

05:22:21.160 Would you have sex with him? 0.99

05:22:21.880 No, no. 0.99

05:22:22.980 If it was the first date?

05:22:24.620 No.

05:22:25.140 Second date?

05:22:25.720 No.

05:22:26.140 Third date?

05:22:26.760 We would have to be seeing each other for a while.

05:22:28.920 How...

05:22:29.520 How long?

05:22:31.820 I guess a month.

05:22:33.480 Okay.

05:22:34.380 But consistently and exclusively...

05:22:36.140 How consistently?

05:22:37.180 Two, three times a...

05:22:38.420 Yeah, a week, yeah.

05:22:39.440 A week?

05:22:39.940 Talking to each other, talking to nobody else, sure.

05:22:42.720 This is a terror...

05:22:43.600 Like, it's just like...

05:22:44.560 His intention, no?

05:22:45.540 Like, you need to...

05:22:46.700 You need to see his intention.

05:22:48.780 Like...

05:22:48.860 Yeah.

05:22:50.020 Oh, no. 1.00

05:22:50.620 Damn, bro. 1.00

05:22:51.160 You can say, like, a period, like, one month. 1.00

05:22:54.680 So close, guys.

05:22:55.880 Go ahead.

05:22:56.540 I don't think that you can say, like, one week, one month.

05:22:58.820 Like, you know a guy, and then you...

05:23:01.820 You see how it is.

05:23:03.520 You see how you feel with him.

05:23:06.000 But why do girls have this, like, this totally different, like, y'all will hook up with a 0.94

05:23:13.100 dude.

05:23:13.740 Y'all hook up with a dude.

05:23:15.500 Yeah.

05:23:15.620 Like, within an hour of meeting, same night.

05:23:19.120 Like, for me, like, I hook up with a dude, and then I decide if I want to, like, keep

05:23:25.340 singing or not.

05:23:27.040 Oh, okay.

05:23:27.880 Like, how I am.

05:23:28.940 But...

05:23:29.080 Sure.

05:23:29.400 I'm kind of the same.

05:23:31.160 Okay.

05:23:31.600 It depends from, like...

05:23:33.180 Because I'm not the kind of person that says, okay, I want something, like, official.

05:23:39.740 So, but it depends on how you are, I think.

05:23:44.200 Like, if a guy is musty, you might not want to sleep with him on the first, like, you know,

05:23:49.280 early on.

05:23:49.920 But if he's, like, if you're really attracted to him, you are probably more inclined.

05:23:54.760 I explained my reasoning for the first mistake that I made.

05:23:59.080 I wouldn't make that mistake again.

05:24:00.620 I was very young.

05:24:02.620 I was not in the same mindset.

05:24:03.700 Hold on, just to be clear, you dated that guy for two years, so not just one mistake,

05:24:10.040 and then immediately after the breakup, you...

05:24:13.200 Not immediately, but...

05:24:16.180 The very next guy you dated, you hooked up with him on the second date.

05:24:20.880 Is that...

05:24:21.340 I got the impression that we were going to start seeing each other and that we were going

05:24:26.080 to be exclusive, and I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions, but that is why.

05:24:31.720 But, okay, it's just, to me, it's crazy.

05:24:33.640 I really thought that he was going to...

05:24:34.500 To me, it's crazy that...

05:24:35.540 Start seeing me.

05:24:36.700 That's fine.

05:24:37.500 But, like, have it be your actual standard.

05:24:40.380 Like, girls, you guys just will leverage sex. 1.00

05:24:43.000 Well, sometimes we just feel extra vulnerable.

05:24:45.360 Like, do you have any, like, do you have any objections, actually, to sleeping with somebody

05:24:50.360 super quick?

05:24:52.140 No, I would not hook up with somebody, no.

05:24:54.720 You've literally done it twice or more.

05:24:58.020 We've heard of two.

05:24:58.940 No, no, just two.

05:24:59.960 Just the two.

05:25:01.040 I just...

05:25:01.940 I don't...

05:25:02.420 The first one, yes.

05:25:03.840 The second one, it was not that.

05:25:09.180 Okay, so I'm just confused why women will, like, in their past, they'll sleep with guys 1.00

05:25:16.600 really quick, and then when the guy who's worthy of a relationship...

05:25:20.440 I mean, yeah.

05:25:21.160 That's the guy you make...

05:25:22.040 Well, in a sense, guys do the same thing.

05:25:24.160 They categorize this. 1.00

05:25:24.500 Women give sex... 1.00

05:25:25.340 Women give sex to the fuckboys, the jerks, the assholes, the abusers instantly. 1.00

05:25:32.180 But the guy who treats you well, who's deserving of a long-term relationship... 1.00

05:25:36.620 It's the same mechanism that men use. 0.85

05:25:38.280 The guy who's deserving of a long-term relationship, he has to wait a month to have sex.

05:25:42.880 No. 1.00

05:25:43.160 That's fucking crazy. 0.99

05:25:44.420 No, if I were... 1.00

05:25:45.140 No, no, I got your point.

05:25:45.860 You agree?

05:25:46.380 Yeah.

05:25:46.780 The Italian girls agree. 0.92

05:25:47.920 Dub you.

05:25:48.320 No, because I get your point.

05:25:49.640 I get what you're saying, but I think that...

05:25:52.680 I mean, I don't know if...

05:25:53.680 I don't do that, but I see a lot of girls that does it. 1.00

05:25:56.820 They do it all the time.

05:25:57.660 But I think it's because they want to be sure that they keep seeing him, I guess.

05:26:03.220 I don't know.

05:26:03.740 I'm not...

05:26:04.340 If he likes you, if he likes you like that...

05:26:06.780 Yeah, that's what I think, too. 0.99

05:26:08.280 You have sex with him too soon? 1.00

05:26:09.720 We have been sold the message our whole lives that guys are judging us based on that.

05:26:14.980 So I know for me, personally, I was so in my head trying to be like, what's the date number that I could sleep with the guy so that he would take me seriously, but not wait too long to where he thinks I'm at.

05:26:27.340 I don't think there's ever been a situation where...

05:26:31.420 There was just a lot of dating advice out there, like, during the level of the dating apps, there was, like, dating coaches telling us.

05:26:38.960 There's no universe. 0.89

05:26:40.040 If we're looking at multiverse type shit, there is no one universe where you sleep with the guy and he doesn't want to date you to take you seriously. 0.97

05:26:51.380 Desert Joe donated $100. 0.97

05:26:53.520 I was believing Jade and sympathetic to her story.

05:26:57.920 Not so much now.

05:26:59.720 She's revealed so many contradictions, it's obvious cloud chasing.

05:27:04.240 The rest of the panel is bored with how much attention spent on her. 0.96

05:27:09.680 Thank you, Desert Joe.

05:27:11.940 I've had my story out there for years.

05:27:14.820 That's cool.

05:27:15.240 So, it's just like...

05:27:18.720 No, if I were in that situation of...

05:27:21.440 I'm just not in that situation.

05:27:23.060 I don't know.

05:27:24.340 If I were in that situation and, yes, you were a good man and he was seeing me and he wanted to commit and it just happened, then it'll happen.

05:27:35.060 I don't have a...

05:27:35.440 That's not what I'm even talking...

05:27:37.160 I'm just...

05:27:37.740 It's very confusing.

05:27:40.040 What?

05:27:40.580 It's not an expectation of life.

05:27:41.500 What's not an expectation?

05:27:42.680 Like, I don't know.

05:27:45.240 Whatever happens, happens.

05:27:47.420 If he's seeing me and...

05:27:48.460 No, okay.

05:27:48.800 I asked you very directly.

05:27:50.760 Would you...

05:27:51.540 If the guy wanted to sleep with you on the first date, would you do it?

05:27:53.940 You said no.

05:27:54.760 Second date, no.

05:27:55.740 Third date, no.

05:27:56.500 You said it'd have to be at least a month.

05:27:58.340 You would need X, Y, Z.

05:27:59.800 You need commitment.

05:28:00.820 You'd have to be boyfriend, girlfriend.

05:28:02.260 You need exclusivity.

05:28:04.500 Exclusivity.

05:28:04.860 So, are these things negotiable or are they your boundaries?

05:28:08.200 They are negotiable.

05:28:09.980 It depends on the situation.

05:28:12.540 What's the situation? 0.99

05:28:13.920 What's the situation that you fuck a guy the first night you meet him? 1.00

05:28:17.180 I would not do that. 0.99

05:28:20.880 Well, you literally have.

05:28:23.040 That was situational and that was when I was younger.

05:28:27.740 I would not do it again.

05:28:28.880 Here, I'll give you some analogies.

05:28:30.800 She donated $100.

05:28:33.400 Andrew, 1 Corinthians 3, 16-17 clearly says if you destroy God's temple, your body, God will bring judgment.

05:28:42.560 Chain smoking harms his sacred creation.

05:28:45.720 This is about obedience to God, not personal freedom.

05:28:51.920 Okay, thank you, WHG.

05:28:53.420 Appreciate it. 0.99

05:28:53.980 But it's kind of like you reward the fuckboys who don't give you commitment with immediate sex, but then you punish the guys worthy of a relationship. 0.95

05:29:05.180 I never think of it that way. 0.97

05:29:05.960 I always think of it like this. 0.99

05:29:06.860 Desiree, kindly shut the fuck up. 1.00

05:29:09.820 Holy fuck, dude. 1.00

05:29:11.320 I'm already tilted as it is having this fucking conversation and then you got to fucking interrupt me on top of it. 1.00

05:29:17.800 Go stand in the fucking corner for 10 minutes. 1.00

05:29:20.900 Okay. 1.00

05:29:21.540 Free? 1.00

05:29:21.820 Holy fuck. 1.00

05:29:23.200 Yes, go stand in the fucking corner. 1.00

05:29:25.500 Jeez. 1.00

05:29:27.020 Let me just fucking get through. 1.00

05:29:28.460 I've been trying for 30 fucking minutes to get to the fucking point. 1.00

05:29:32.620 Oh my God. 1.00

05:29:34.060 Look at Andrew.

05:29:34.900 He likes it too.

05:29:36.820 Okay.

05:29:37.500 So. 1.00

05:29:39.940 It's like you're basically saying I thought you were a better long-term prospect, so I treated you worse than the guy I knew who was a, well, maybe you didn't know it up front, who was an asshole and toxic. 0.99

05:29:51.820 And it's like you're telling these guys, like, you were so important to me. 1.00

05:29:58.380 I treated sex like it was sacred.

05:30:01.560 But just for you, not the other guys who got it on the first or second night.

05:30:06.100 I feel like I was a completely different person and in a completely different situation and.

05:30:11.900 Okay.

05:30:12.420 Hold on.

05:30:12.820 That's, that's fine.

05:30:14.140 It honestly just depends.

05:30:14.500 So, okay.

05:30:14.820 Here's an analogy.

05:30:15.780 Here's an analogy.

05:30:16.460 So, you know about me that I used to get my ex-girlfriend flowers and we, and you know what?

05:30:25.400 She was actually just a fling and she like, she never treated me well, but I used to get her flowers. 1.00

05:30:31.540 I used to take her out on an expensive dates. 0.54

05:30:33.360 I used to take her on vacation.

05:30:35.000 But now that I'm talking to you, that was my past.

05:30:40.280 Now we go 50-50 on everything, no vacations, no traditional treatment.

05:30:46.000 Would you not feel like, well, hold on.

05:30:48.700 Why did she get that sort of treatment when I'm treating him way better?

05:30:55.120 Yeah, I mean, if you were hurt, I'd understand.

05:31:06.100 Yeah, I'm just not in that position, so I can't say.

05:31:09.240 I'm, I don't, who knows?

05:31:13.560 Maybe I will fall in love and we will do it before he's my boyfriend.

05:31:18.180 I don't know.

05:31:19.040 I'm not saying that.

05:31:20.860 I think who I was back then was completely different and I made mistakes and I wouldn't

05:31:25.100 make that mistake again.

05:31:27.380 And I, it's also me.

05:31:29.660 I don't want to rack up a body count and then he doesn't, he's not my boyfriend for the next

05:31:37.040 few years, you know?

05:31:39.720 Okay.

05:31:40.180 I'm just going to give you a couple of analogies.

05:31:41.820 Maybe it's going to make sense.

05:31:43.500 So all your exes got five, got five star meals, but she gets McDonald's because you've 1.00

05:31:51.720 turned, you've turned over a new leaf and decided that money has better uses than just

05:31:55.680 trying to impress people.

05:31:57.120 Does that do it for you?

05:31:58.460 No?

05:31:59.800 No?

05:32:01.120 Okay.

05:32:01.580 Here's an analogy.

05:32:04.680 You really like this guy.

05:32:06.060 You go on a date.

05:32:06.740 Everything's great.

05:32:07.580 But you find out he wants to go 50-50 with you until you guys are married.

05:32:12.160 Then you learn his last three girlfriends, he paid for everything, rent, dates, vacations.

05:32:17.500 He even went on a date a week before he went on a date with you and he paid the entire

05:32:23.620 bill.

05:32:24.540 How's that make you feel?

05:32:26.500 I mean, I would be hurt.

05:32:30.740 But also, was he hurt?

05:32:32.820 Like, why, why did he change his mind?

05:32:35.040 Did she mistreat him?

05:32:38.200 Did she take advantage of him and only use him for his money? 1.00

05:32:43.560 It's possible.

05:32:45.480 It's possible.

05:32:46.280 I'm not saying that I would say, oh, no, absolutely not.

05:32:50.920 Do not touch me.

05:32:53.240 I just want to be cautious.

05:32:56.240 All right.

05:32:57.120 Okay.

05:32:57.580 I'm just going to move it on.

05:33:00.580 It's just not really going anywhere.

05:33:04.600 But all right.

05:33:07.700 Oh, well, now, okay, everybody's gone from the panel.

05:33:10.800 I can't even do it.

05:33:14.060 What do we have to do?

05:33:15.200 Can we pull up Twitch really quick?

05:33:20.460 I'm going to try and involve some of the other panelists.

05:33:23.060 Can you pull up Twitch?

05:33:23.860 All right, guys.

05:33:31.120 Go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

05:33:32.720 Drop the call.

05:33:33.100 Oh, man, Marine donated $100.

05:33:35.840 Thank you, man.

05:33:36.300 Many gay men report that they've been essayed very young.

05:33:39.600 We're seeing this issue affecting men, but we can't talk about it because the world claims 0.70

05:33:44.140 they're born gay.

05:33:45.640 Sorry for the interruption. 0.98

05:33:46.940 More.

05:33:48.660 More.

05:33:53.360 Yeah.

05:33:54.080 Thank you.

05:33:54.660 Thank you, old man, Marine.

05:33:55.940 Appreciate it, man.

05:33:58.960 Okay.

05:34:00.120 You can come back, Desiree.

05:34:01.760 Maybe I'll finally be able to get through everything.

05:34:05.920 Graffito tagged donated $100.

05:34:10.780 Sounds like Jade isn't making decisions about sex based off of her pre-existing set of morals. 1.00

05:34:17.000 Rather, she is still developing her sexual morals and further refining them with every 0.99

05:34:22.040 sexual experience.

05:34:23.360 Yeah, and that second situation, it wasn't the same as the first at all.

05:34:29.480 As I said, I really thought that he was going to be my partner, and I shouldn't have thought

05:34:36.460 that.

05:34:36.860 That was ridiculous of me, but I mean, that's why I trusted him, and I shouldn't have, but

05:34:44.800 that's my problem is that I trusted too easily, and I don't want to make that mistake again.

05:34:53.360 Mm-hmm.

05:34:54.060 Okay.

05:34:56.500 Let's see.

05:34:57.160 Let's go to Cosmic here.

05:34:59.440 That's not your name.

05:35:00.400 That's your thing.

05:35:01.120 I don't know.

05:35:03.640 You said you have personal opinions that might get you ostracized?

05:35:09.020 Who?

05:35:09.620 Yeah, you.

05:35:11.220 About what?

05:35:12.000 Yeah, I guess.

05:35:12.340 I don't know.

05:35:12.700 That's all you wrote?

05:35:13.780 Yeah, personally.

05:35:14.840 Okay.

05:35:15.200 You said you gave up on modern dating.

05:35:17.100 It's a lost cause.

05:35:17.780 Everyone's too self-absorbed, whether in their own traumas or their own success.

05:35:22.540 Yeah.

05:35:23.360 Okay.

05:35:23.760 I really do feel like people are not willing to make the sacrifices, whether it's refining

05:35:28.600 their character, you know, to establish a general relationship.

05:35:34.840 I honestly feel like no one knows what they want.

05:35:37.000 Mm-hmm.

05:35:37.320 People are all lost, and they're just finding distractions, and, yeah.

05:35:45.660 Okay.

05:35:46.220 People, I think, are energy vampires, too, as well.

05:35:48.060 So, I feel like...

05:35:49.300 All right.

05:35:53.680 And then you...

05:35:56.300 Well, we already talked about the sperm donor thing.

05:36:01.580 That was already talked about.

05:36:03.420 Well, let's go to...

05:36:06.660 Sorry, I forgot.

05:36:10.200 It's...

05:36:10.660 How do you...

05:36:11.720 Benedetta.

05:36:12.800 Benedetta.

05:36:13.960 Okay.

05:36:14.400 Did you want to talk a bit about differences when it came to...

05:36:19.640 Age?

05:36:20.600 Well, dating American versus European men, or Italian men, I guess.

05:36:26.240 I mean, last time that I did an American, I was 17, so, like...

05:36:33.280 Mm-hmm.

05:36:33.580 Okay.

05:36:34.420 And I feel that Americans are a little bit, like, going around and hook up, like, easily.

05:36:45.480 Mm-hmm.

05:36:45.720 More than Europeans, I guess. 1.00

05:36:47.540 Sure.

05:36:47.840 But I don't know.

05:36:48.560 Like, it depends, just, like, my experience.

05:36:52.080 So, I don't know.

05:36:54.860 Maybe, like, Europeans are more romantic, I guess.

05:36:59.880 But I don't know.

05:37:02.480 I'm going to come back and tell you what I find out this year.

05:37:06.880 Okay.

05:37:09.460 But it sounded like, from what you said earlier, you kind of are looking for something more casual yourself, right?

05:37:14.780 No, actually, right now, like, yeah, I'm not looking for anything.

05:37:19.800 If something happens, that's not too stressful.

05:37:26.080 Like, it's nothing, like, too serious.

05:37:29.680 Yeah.

05:37:29.860 But if not, I'm fine, like, by myself, it's fine.

05:37:34.700 Okay.

05:37:35.300 All right.

05:37:37.020 And then you had an age gap relationship.

05:37:39.900 Yeah.

05:37:40.260 You were...

05:37:41.860 Old man Marine donated $100. 1.00

05:37:47.420 Is that girl taking another shite? 1.00

05:37:49.700 She's been gone for a minute. 1.00

05:37:50.140 She needs to stop drinking caffeine.

05:37:52.040 She's been gone for a minute.

05:37:55.060 She gets, you know, look, it's, I don't know, long breaks, long breaks.

05:38:00.760 Okay.

05:38:02.440 Let's see.

05:38:04.220 Oh, so, okay, you were 21.

05:38:06.400 He was 38.

05:38:08.880 Yeah, I was 22, and he was 39.

05:38:12.700 Okay.

05:38:13.820 Yeah.

05:38:14.540 GMD Jim donated $100.

05:38:17.500 Andrew, heard you and you know I love you, too. 0.99

05:38:20.680 I even love the whores and thirst traps. 0.99

05:38:23.640 I would not waste my hard-earned money if I did not. 1.00

05:38:26.900 This world needs help, and most Christians sadly will not. 1.00

05:38:30.500 You got to love Jim.

05:38:32.800 Thank you.

05:38:33.140 You got to love Jim.

05:38:34.480 Thank you, Jim, for the TTS, man.

05:38:36.540 Appreciate it.

05:38:38.660 So, has anybody else here had an age gap relationship?

05:38:46.720 Let's start here or go around the table.

05:38:49.340 Go ahead.

05:38:49.700 My last relationship, he was six years older than me. 0.97

05:38:52.960 Was this the guy who shoved your head in the toilet? 0.67

05:38:55.080 No.

05:38:55.580 That wasn't a romantic relationship.

05:38:58.320 No, I'm sorry.

05:38:59.180 I'm sorry, Brian.

05:39:00.500 I feel like he left some things out. 1.00

05:39:02.640 Shoved her head in the toilet while he was fucking her up the ass. 1.00

05:39:05.840 I just wanted to make sure we were clear on that. 1.00

05:39:08.360 That was the other part.

05:39:09.840 Butt stuff.

05:39:10.720 That's what that's called.

05:39:11.660 Yeah.

05:39:13.240 Yeah.

05:39:14.260 Have you ever had a...

05:39:15.400 What's the...

05:39:15.980 So, what's the oldest you at date, I guess?

05:39:21.400 Probably...

05:39:22.160 I'm going to be honest.

05:39:23.900 I'm curious about the...

05:39:27.900 I'm exploring the morality of, like, sugaring.

05:39:33.400 What?

05:39:34.000 I mean...

05:39:34.440 Oh, no.

05:39:35.240 I've never...

05:39:36.160 I've obviously never done it, but...

05:39:39.040 What is that?

05:39:40.020 Hold on, Walt.

05:39:40.760 You could have a relationship with an older man and it not be a sugar baby dynamic.

05:39:49.900 But I'm just saying, I...

05:39:51.120 Yeah, I know.

05:39:51.400 It's not...

05:39:52.120 I wouldn't be...

05:39:52.800 It's not like a sugar or whatever.

05:39:54.560 Yeah, it was like a legitimate relationship.

05:39:57.720 But it would depend.

05:39:58.760 The upper limit would depend.

05:40:00.000 You have to scoot into the mic.

05:40:00.640 The upper limit would depend.

05:40:01.820 So, you date a 70-year-old for money.

05:40:03.700 I wouldn't be attracted to one. 1.00

05:40:05.540 But for money, you would have sex with one. 0.99

05:40:07.160 That might be... 0.98

05:40:07.940 I think, like, if I'm just dating you, you're just going to give me money to date you.

05:40:13.060 Like, not even necessarily, like, hooking up with, like, a wrinkly 70-year-old.

05:40:19.100 Wow.

05:40:19.120 The question I asked you just kind of totally went over your head.

05:40:22.320 No, I'm telling you that it depends.

05:40:25.640 The upper limit depends.

05:40:26.760 I wouldn't be attracted to, like, probably 60-plus.

05:40:30.960 Big Sass Energy donated $100.

05:40:34.460 Jade, by her story alone, appears to be a very emotionally and maturely delayed woman.

05:40:40.240 I do not find her to be dishonest, but rather naive and burdened by what has been.

05:40:45.360 Someday she will be unburdened.

05:40:48.340 You want to respond to that quickly?

05:40:50.440 I don't know.

05:40:51.320 I don't agree.

05:40:52.380 I think I've matured a lot, and I am significantly different than the woman I was when I detransitioned.

05:40:59.820 Of course I'm still learning.

05:41:01.040 I think we all grow through life and change.

05:41:07.940 So, Vivian, you're saying that's your name, right?

05:41:12.560 Yes.

05:41:13.700 Oh, okay.

05:41:15.040 Why did you shake your head like this and then say yes?

05:41:19.260 Because, I mean, you kind of remember people's names.

05:41:22.320 I understand, but it's a little rude.

05:41:24.660 But it's okay.

05:41:25.580 I forgive you.

05:41:28.320 Wait, what did you say your name was again?

05:41:29.820 Is that your ick, like, thing you do? 0.98

05:41:37.680 No, I'm just, like, disgraceful. 0.90

05:41:40.140 It's like a...

05:41:40.780 Wait, can you straighten your mic?

05:41:44.040 It's like what?

05:41:45.680 It's like...

05:41:46.400 All right.

05:41:46.900 It's just like SMH.

05:41:48.480 You should know my name by now.

05:41:56.200 She's infamous. 1.00

05:41:57.320 Say my name, bitch. 1.00

05:42:00.140 Okay, well, Vivian, I think that that's fair. 0.99

05:42:03.200 Thank you, Andrew.

05:42:03.600 What's my last name?

05:42:05.420 Wilson.

05:42:07.140 And my first name?

05:42:08.420 Andrew.

05:42:09.340 I just love it when you say my name.

05:42:11.800 Well, I'm sorry that I couldn't... 0.99

05:42:13.480 Andrew's fucking kinky. 1.00

05:42:16.600 Wait, what did you just say? 1.00

05:42:18.640 Andrew's kinky.

05:42:19.620 He's like, I love when you say my name. 0.87

05:42:21.560 Old man, Maureen, girl with diarrhea, look to your left and see what your future holds

05:42:25.740 by going down the road of being a... 1.00

05:42:30.560 A, she was a whore. 1.00

05:42:33.460 B, she was a whore. 1.00

05:42:35.100 I don't have diarrhea, so I'm not sure who you're talking to. 0.99

05:42:40.340 So a chat came in while you were gone in the bathroom, and you were gone for a while,

05:42:46.140 so it's just...

05:42:47.700 They don't understand the freshen up.

05:42:50.000 It'd take a minute to hear something.

05:42:51.040 Also, I don't know if I said this on stream.

05:42:53.080 I said this off stream to you, but like, really disappointed with your change of hair,

05:42:57.620 by the way, just so you know.

05:42:58.940 What was my hair before?

05:43:00.360 It was dark.

05:43:01.240 I understand.

05:43:01.860 It was kind of better before.

05:43:03.200 I just...

05:43:04.160 I don't even know what color that is.

05:43:06.380 It's like you went halfway.

05:43:07.980 Yeah, I did.

05:43:08.660 I did.

05:43:08.780 You didn't finish the job.

05:43:10.580 Yeah, I didn't want, like... 1.00

05:43:12.300 Like you were going blonde, but like you stopped the shit too soon, and you're like, fuck my 1.00

05:43:16.720 shit up. 1.00

05:43:17.220 Okay, okay. 0.98

05:43:17.860 Thank you. 1.00

05:43:19.200 Did you go to the salon, and you said, fuck my shit up? 1.00

05:43:21.860 Is that what you said? 1.00

05:43:22.860 We all do that.

05:43:23.880 You know, we all do that.

05:43:24.360 I did say fix what I did, because I did half bleach my hair, so...

05:43:30.160 Bro, you can't half...

05:43:31.340 You gotta go all the way.

05:43:33.200 You can't half...

05:43:34.240 We do weird things when we're ovulating, okay?

05:43:37.000 Sometimes it comes out as like we botched our hair.

05:43:39.980 So wait, okay.

05:43:40.680 The sugar daddy thing...

05:43:41.160 Sometimes we get a tattoo of a guy's name.

05:43:43.000 Let's do the sugar daddy thing.

05:43:43.200 Okay, so you'll date a 70-year-old guy.

05:43:46.060 What about without sugaring, what's the oldest guy that you would date?

05:43:51.120 Probably under 40.

05:43:56.720 Okay, cool.

05:44:01.080 I can fix her.

05:44:01.980 Just kidding.

05:44:04.780 All right. 0.98

05:44:05.320 Sorry, that was stupid. 0.96

05:44:06.620 All right. 0.92

05:44:08.900 Jade, have you had an age gap relationship?

05:44:12.220 Yeah, five years.

05:44:13.760 Was that the homeless guy?

05:44:16.940 Yeah.

05:44:17.080 All right.

05:44:19.020 Morgan, have you had an age gap relationship?

05:44:21.840 Age gap relationship?

05:44:22.720 Yeah, my situationship, we're like 10 years apart.

05:44:26.500 Oh, okay.

05:44:27.240 Like you're older than him?

05:44:28.480 No, he's older than me.

05:44:29.220 Oh, okay.

05:44:29.740 Age gap?

05:44:29.960 The father of my children is 17 years older than me.

05:44:32.700 All right.

05:44:33.780 No.

05:44:34.340 No.

05:44:34.680 Okay.

05:44:36.820 All right.

05:44:37.360 I mean, I don't really have anything more on that one.

05:44:41.300 How did it come...

05:44:41.880 Oh, the age...

05:44:42.580 Because, yeah, I was trying to get you in on this convo here.

05:44:45.040 Do age gap relationships give any of you the ick?

05:44:51.600 Or do you object to age gap relationships?

05:44:54.220 I'd prefer to date a little younger.

05:44:58.600 It kind of gives me the ick a little...

05:45:00.940 Aren't you in one?

05:45:03.380 But it gives me the ick, like...

05:45:04.900 You get the ick from your own guy or while you're not dating or whatever.

05:45:09.360 Look, I need to get my rocks off every so often or I'm going to be a really mean person.

05:45:12.620 Wait, you still hook up with the guy?

05:45:14.100 Every so often.

05:45:14.880 Oh, we did not.

05:45:15.600 Hold on.

05:45:15.980 Let's go into this.

05:45:17.340 So, the guy who you call sperm donor, who you hate, you guys still hook up?

05:45:22.600 No, no.

05:45:23.120 God, no.

05:45:23.880 God, no.

05:45:24.220 Oh, there's a different...

05:45:25.520 Remember, I'm in a situationship and my sperm donor is completely different.

05:45:29.300 Oh, okay.

05:45:30.220 So, yeah.

05:45:31.000 You've been in a situationship for two years, but the eight-year guy is a sperm donor, dude.

05:45:36.180 But you don't still hook up with him?

05:45:37.680 No, not at all.

05:45:38.600 Wait, the situationship for two years?

05:45:41.040 No, it was an actual relationship.

05:45:42.500 We lived together for a year and a half, and then it became a situationship.

05:45:45.980 So, he's like sleeping with other women?

05:45:48.140 That, I don't know.

05:45:49.720 Into the mic.

05:45:50.420 That, I'm not sure.

05:45:51.220 I don't think so.

05:45:52.420 It really doesn't look like it.

05:45:54.240 It doesn't act like it.

05:45:55.100 It's for sure.

05:45:56.000 But...

05:45:56.400 Does he...

05:45:58.280 I'm not the type to really go through phones and tell me, who are you sleeping with other

05:46:01.100 people?

05:46:02.160 Okay.

05:46:02.960 Does he...

05:46:04.500 How often do you see him?

05:46:07.220 Maybe like once.

05:46:09.140 Uh-huh.

05:46:09.420 Every two weeks.

05:46:10.320 Okay.

05:46:10.920 All right.

05:46:12.760 All right.

05:46:14.240 Tim, I got to wait to ask this question until the whole panel's back.

05:46:16.920 So, I'll just wait once she's back.

05:46:20.080 We'll get into the notes.

05:46:21.240 Rebecca, you have quite a lot of notes here.

05:46:22.880 Uh, I think we did all the ones for Jade.

05:46:25.600 Are...

05:46:26.000 Uh, Austin, are there other reacts, or did we do...

05:46:29.140 Wasn't there like a video?

05:46:32.060 Wait, there was something from Jade, like an Instagram post we were going to pull up.

05:46:35.300 She's gone.

05:46:36.140 Can you remind me from the IG post?

05:46:38.480 The Stoic Roman donated $100.

05:46:41.560 For Benedetta, how do Italians view the Roman Empire pre-395 CE?

05:46:47.840 Good or bad?

05:46:49.420 What's the Roman Empire pre-395?

05:46:52.380 Straight into the mic, if you can.

05:46:53.940 What is it?

05:46:55.500 What's the Roman Empire pre-395?

05:46:57.620 Oh.

05:46:58.560 Oh, the Roman... 1.00

05:46:59.440 Oh, okay.

05:47:00.180 Rome?

05:47:00.900 That thing? 0.97

05:47:01.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:47:03.620 Um...

05:47:04.340 Um...

05:47:08.340 No idea.

05:47:10.440 Like...

05:47:12.340 We'll get like...

05:47:15.100 Um...

05:47:16.340 Good, I guess.

05:47:19.740 I guess.

05:47:21.700 Yeah.

05:47:22.180 I'm not really into, like, history stuff.

05:47:24.380 It's not something that I come up in a discussion, like, in a conversation.

05:47:30.880 What's your favorite kind of pasta?

05:47:33.780 Mine?

05:47:39.640 Spaghetti alle vongole.

05:47:41.140 It's like clams with spaghetti.

05:47:43.580 Mm-hmm.

05:47:44.180 Mm-hmm.

05:47:45.040 I think.

05:47:46.520 Yeah.

05:47:46.900 I don't...

05:47:47.480 I'm not...

05:47:48.320 Can you cook?

05:47:49.160 Yeah, I do cook very well, but I don't eat pasta.

05:47:52.100 Like, I'm not a very big fan of pasta.

05:47:54.600 I don't like pasta either.

05:47:55.720 I'm not a big pasta fan.

05:47:57.180 Yeah, I do cook.

05:47:59.360 Okay.

05:48:00.560 Right.

05:48:02.040 Rebecca, getting into your notes here.

05:48:03.840 Yes.

05:48:04.080 Let's see.

05:48:06.400 There's a lot, so I don't know if we'll get to everything, but 41 years old, gamer, streamer,

05:48:12.640 damn good in the domestic sense, college educated, fully employed, two-income household,

05:48:17.440 married kids, all that, partridge in a pear tree. 0.98

05:48:21.780 You wanted to talk about double standards, the dating market, why sleeping around, glorified

05:48:28.440 in society.

05:48:31.220 Okay.

05:48:31.860 Was there...

05:48:32.580 Of your notes, I mean, I could kind of go through them on my own, but what are some of

05:48:36.360 the big ones that you kind of wanted to get into?

05:48:41.200 Let's see.

05:48:42.000 A big one that I would love to hear everyone's take on is, women have flocked to social media 1.00

05:48:51.880 to ask the question, where have all the good men gone?

05:48:55.700 My sort of top ones as to why that happens is, number one, they're staying away from you,

05:49:04.360 whoever's asking that question.

05:49:06.760 Two, they're still around.

05:49:08.260 You're still just not looking in the right places.

05:49:09.820 Three, have you explored the choices in men you are making, only experiencing the bad 0.96

05:49:15.040 guys or shitty men? 0.86

05:49:16.600 Take a step back, review the choices you are making. 0.99

05:49:20.280 Four, they're probably taken.

05:49:22.900 Five, modern feminism is killing chivalry, commonly associated with good men. 1.00

05:49:29.580 Six, good men are choosing to stay single and put themselves first before relationships.

05:49:34.880 The current dating climate is keeping them from willingly choosing any woman or being more

05:49:39.080 selective about who they choose.

05:49:41.260 And number seven, men are being more vocal about their standards, just as women have

05:49:45.420 done.

05:49:47.640 Shocker, men have standards. 1.00

05:49:49.040 Who knew?

05:49:51.240 Dripping with sarcasm.

05:49:52.960 Anyway, that's one of the ones I wanted to discuss.

05:49:58.040 Takes?

05:49:58.440 I completely agree with you there, actually.

05:50:02.320 Since I have two daughters, and they're trying to follow these TikTok trends, and they think

05:50:06.900 it's cute to wear these crop tops and do all this free pro-feminist movement and all that 1.00

05:50:12.300 and whatever.

05:50:12.900 And it's like, at the end of the day, you are your self-representative.

05:50:17.740 Unfortunately, this is a kind of vain world.

05:50:19.480 People are going to look at you first and see how you represent yourself.

05:50:22.040 And the way you carry yourself is what you attract.

05:50:24.960 I do believe that.

05:50:25.720 If you want to attract a good man, you need to carry yourself as a good woman. 0.96

05:50:29.500 You need to act like a good woman, I guess. 0.61

05:50:32.400 I don't know how these standards are to people, because everybody has different standards.

05:50:35.820 But I completely agree.

05:50:37.500 I'm pretty sure a man doesn't want a woman who's half-dressed all the time or who's very, 1.00

05:50:44.140 like, I guess, too masculine or too vocal or too, you know, firecracker popping off all

05:50:52.540 the time like that.

05:50:53.420 So, yeah, I agree with everything you say.

05:50:57.560 I'll come back to some of your notes really quick.

05:50:59.560 Can you pull up that Instagram post?

05:51:01.620 Yeah, which one?

05:51:03.420 It's like a chart with something, I don't know.

05:51:09.600 Yeah.

05:51:10.880 You know what I'm talking about?

05:51:11.940 Yeah.

05:51:14.140 Jade, I believe you posted this somewhere.

05:51:18.080 Is this correct?

05:51:19.800 Probably.

05:51:20.460 I could have sworn.

05:51:22.100 What women think men want in women, financial stability, confidence, successful, high-earning, 0.97

05:51:29.720 career, ambitious, challenging, strong, independent.

05:51:32.560 What men actually want in women, fit body, kindness, supportive, hardworking, agreeable,

05:51:37.480 peaceful, sweet, interdependent.

05:51:39.520 Real men want traditional women. 1.00

05:51:44.140 I agree.

05:51:46.860 I mean, any disagreements from anyone on the panel here?

05:51:49.900 I have a question, but when we speak of traditional, by what means are we talking like the 1950s type

05:51:55.480 of traditional, like lifestyle, or what is, how are we measuring traditional?

05:52:02.620 I mean, there's different ways.

05:52:06.040 Examples?

05:52:07.040 Examples?

05:52:08.040 An example of a traditional relationship or a traditional couple would be typically a male or a man that brings home the bread, so to speak, provides.

05:52:20.880 And the woman, so I referenced it earlier, a man that would take care of the outer world for a woman, and the man would take care of his inner, being caring, being supportive, taking care of his family, taking care of the home.

05:52:35.460 Those are the inners, like where he lives, you know, where he puts his hat, you know what I mean? 1.00

05:52:39.560 And the man will, in order to allow her to do that, will provide for her to do that, bring home the income to give her the home for her to support.

05:52:50.800 So it's, it's, it's a given, it's a give and take.

05:52:54.020 It's a balance.

05:52:54.860 I have a thing on that too.

05:52:56.420 So relationships, men and women are all about balance.

05:52:59.980 Yin and yang, can you hear me okay?

05:53:01.840 If I'm talking like this.

05:53:03.980 Science, or excuse me, yin and yang, science, nature, the world in general thrives off balance.

05:53:09.040 Hot, cold, scales, tips it off.

05:53:10.840 If it goes off, if it goes off the scale, tips.

05:53:13.620 Relationships are no different.

05:53:14.940 Know your role.

05:53:15.720 Learn to adapt into it as needed.

05:53:17.240 If you bring home the bread, he cleans and manages the home.

05:53:21.080 If he earns the bread, then you manage the home.

05:53:23.760 It's unrealistic to expect he's going to come home being the sole breadwinner and help clean the house or cook the meals.

05:53:29.820 It's logically realistic to balance that scale.

05:53:32.940 If you both are bringing home the income, then balance the workload at home.

05:53:37.120 This is different for part-time versus full-time, obviously.

05:53:39.600 So it's fluid, as we discussed earlier.

05:53:42.320 As I was going to say, it's all, it's all fluid.

05:53:44.180 It's not so black and white.

05:53:45.100 The point is to be versatile and be willing to slide into what's needed for the partnership.

05:53:49.860 When you're solo, that's a different story.

05:53:52.720 But when you're together, it's all about what's good for the family.

05:53:57.020 It should not be what he or she can do for me or give me.

05:54:00.560 It's about what I can do.

05:54:01.920 It's about what I can do for them.

05:54:06.260 It should be what value can I bring as a partner to this person?

05:54:10.460 Why should they want me in their life?

05:54:12.660 Thoughts?

05:54:22.820 Agree?

05:54:25.140 Yeah, I agree as well.

05:54:27.240 Especially being versatile, trying to see what can I bring into the table in order to make this partnership work,

05:54:32.980 especially if you want it to be long-lasting.

05:54:35.300 Like I mentioned earlier, I think people are a little too self-absorbed,

05:54:37.660 and not a lot of people are willing to do this.

05:54:40.340 And I feel like nowadays, dating is just a distraction from the oppression of whatever we're going through in life.

05:54:47.880 Let's go to Vivian's notes here.

05:54:51.720 You said, if a young woman dates an older man for money, is that prostitution? 0.98

05:54:57.360 Oh, yeah, that was an old one.

05:54:59.000 Oh, is that old?

05:54:59.700 Did you provide new?

05:55:01.640 And it's, and, well, okay.

05:55:04.800 You said, oh, you had a disagreement with Andrew on women's rights being made up.

05:55:09.480 Oh, that was also old.

05:55:11.400 Yeah, but you didn't, you wanted to have the convo with Andrew.

05:55:14.780 Andrew, I think it's worth having that one.

05:55:18.300 Men's body, we'll come back to that one. 0.92

05:55:20.780 We will get to it.

05:55:22.580 But before we do, just since we have everybody finally back at the table here,

05:55:26.760 I do want to go around the table on this.

05:55:30.180 This ties back into the Stifler question.

05:55:32.940 So do you think you will be better looking in 10 years' time?

05:55:36.680 I don't necessarily know that I'll be better looking,

05:55:43.160 but I trust that I will feel better about how I look.

05:55:47.020 Because that's just the trajectory that I'm on,

05:55:49.480 that I've enjoyed aging and I feel better and better about myself.

05:55:53.820 And then were you better looking at 29 than you are now at 39?

05:55:58.840 No.

05:55:59.280 Were you better looking at 19 than you are now at 39?

05:56:01.960 No.

05:56:02.120 Okay.

05:56:02.640 So as far as 10 years from now at 49 compared to 39?

05:56:08.660 I mean, I...

05:56:09.600 About the same?

05:56:10.340 Better looking, worse looking?

05:56:11.500 Maybe about the same.

05:56:12.820 What about 59?

05:56:14.960 I'm trying to think of my grandma's.

05:56:17.760 About the same?

05:56:20.460 I mean, obviously there's going to be signs of aging.

05:56:23.280 So it's just a matter of where culture and society is at the time.

05:56:28.420 We are coming, circling back around to a more natural beauty.

05:56:34.820 It definitely, it's a cool time to be in the modeling industry right now.

05:56:37.860 I'll say that.

05:56:38.640 And I know lots of women who are 10 years. 1.00

05:56:41.300 You're in the modeling industry?

05:56:42.200 Yeah.

05:56:42.940 I'm a model.

05:56:43.700 I'm a professional model.

05:56:44.980 That's, I got into OnlyFans because I was first a model.

05:56:49.140 So I had a high demand for that.

05:56:52.020 Essentially, I'm like the modern version of a Playboy bunny.

05:56:55.020 Are we supposed to tell them we can hear him?

05:57:08.840 Oh, we could, Andrew, we could hear you.

05:57:11.780 I'm sorry about that.

05:57:18.380 Okay.

05:57:20.880 Vivian.

05:57:21.280 Will you be better looking in 10 years' time?

05:57:26.640 Not sexually to men, no.

05:57:29.460 What?

05:57:34.140 Better looking to women then? 1.00

05:57:36.520 Well, you can, I mean, you can see, you could say some people age like fine wine.

05:57:43.940 So, and I plan on doing that, but I think sexually, like, youth is, like, a big thing that I tend to see, like, men liking.

05:57:53.880 So I don't think, you know.

05:57:56.700 Okay.

05:57:57.340 All right.

05:57:59.820 Watch out, Brian donated $100.

05:58:02.340 FYI, after her podcast appearance a few weeks ago, Ava has accused you of underhanded debate tactics and has flouted the ire of doing an expose on you. 1.00

05:58:13.660 Potential Judas in your midst. 0.87

05:58:15.940 Brothers before hoes. 1.00

05:58:18.240 Thank you for the heads up.

05:58:20.500 I mean, she's going to expose me for alleged underhanded debate tactics. 0.95

05:58:25.980 I'm not sure what that would even be referring to.

05:58:31.060 I look, I mean.

05:58:32.400 Oh, come on, Brian.

05:58:33.380 Women can't debate. 1.00

05:58:34.400 Let's, I mean, let's.

05:58:36.760 What would be, what would be underhanded about it, right?

05:58:39.680 It's like men can debate and women can't. 1.00

05:58:42.160 That would be the underhanded tactics.

05:58:44.280 Yeah.

05:58:44.480 This is the girl who, like, we, we got somebody, whatever, and she basically, whatever.

05:58:52.680 Okay.

05:58:55.740 Jade, better looking in 10 years' time?

05:58:58.120 No.

05:58:59.160 Okay.

05:58:59.980 Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years?

05:59:01.480 I think I'm going to look the same.

05:59:02.960 Look the same?

05:59:03.600 More or less.

05:59:03.800 So you're 23.

05:59:05.180 Yeah.

05:59:05.400 You'll look the same at 33.

05:59:06.880 I mean, I'm planning to, like, do sports and keep myself, you know, in good shape.

05:59:14.560 So I hope that I'm going to look okay with some kind of differences, but.

05:59:20.120 What about 20 years' time?

05:59:21.760 So 43.

05:59:25.000 Yeah.

05:59:25.480 Still the same?

05:59:26.020 Maybe at that time, maybe I'm going to look older, but it doesn't mean that I'm going to

05:59:31.280 look bad.

05:59:32.320 Morgan?

05:59:33.880 28, I think, yeah.

05:59:35.580 Okay.

05:59:36.880 Yeah.

05:59:38.020 So you're 27?

05:59:39.160 Mm-hmm.

05:59:39.500 Do you think you'll be better looking at 37?

05:59:42.180 Yeah.

05:59:42.560 Into the mic, please.

05:59:43.600 Yes, I think so.

05:59:45.420 Only we'll.

05:59:47.680 Lon Paladin's donated $100.02.

05:59:50.920 Oh, I need to name one.

05:59:52.040 Modern Playboy Bunny.

05:59:53.240 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 0.59

06:00:02.060 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

06:00:05.200 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

06:00:06.340 Such to hear about Ava.

06:00:08.120 She was cute. 0.89

06:00:09.040 Bring her back to debate.

06:00:12.100 I mean, we'd be open.

06:00:15.800 Well, hang on, hang on.

06:00:17.460 You should bring, if Ava's really going to do an expose, 0.97

06:00:20.060 then let me offer Ava debate on, well,

06:00:24.100 basically any topic that she wants.

06:00:26.320 And she can come do it in the Whatever Studio 1v1. 0.59

06:00:29.600 And then she can't complain about the underhanded debate tactics, right?

06:00:34.760 Yeah, I'm down to do it.

06:00:36.100 I'm down to do it.

06:00:36.800 She can come on and voice her criticisms. 0.74

06:00:40.920 Law Paladin, sorry that we didn't.

06:00:43.780 I just set up the thing, so it should be fine if you want to send it in.

06:00:49.980 My bad.

06:00:50.780 My bad.

06:00:51.360 With the special trigger or whatever.

06:00:54.340 So better looking at 37?

06:00:57.300 Yes.

06:00:57.700 Better looking at 47?

06:00:59.900 Yes.

06:01:00.940 Better looking at 57?

06:01:03.640 Now I'm thinking I'll stay the same.

06:01:05.940 I would like, because I see I want to.

06:01:07.120 So 57 is like peak or whatever?

06:01:08.980 Yeah.

06:01:10.420 Okay.

06:01:11.580 And then you're 27 now.

06:01:13.040 Do you think you're better looking now at 27 than you were at 18?

06:01:17.420 Yeah.

06:01:22.100 Yes, because I had a real big baby face, and I feel like I'm kind of growing out of it.

06:01:30.040 Okay.

06:01:31.080 And then you're 41.

06:01:32.540 Better looking at 51?

06:01:34.560 No.

06:01:35.380 And then you're 41.

06:01:36.540 Were you better looking at 31?

06:01:37.960 Yes.

06:01:38.380 Were you better looking at 21?

06:01:39.560 Yes.

06:01:40.000 Okay.

06:01:40.180 Anissa, 19?

06:01:42.280 Better looking in 10 years' time?

06:01:43.840 Maybe the same.

06:01:45.120 Maybe the same?

06:01:45.860 Okay.

06:01:45.920 But not after that.

06:01:46.940 All right.

06:01:48.880 You know what?

06:01:49.660 I want to...

06:01:50.360 Sometimes I'll hear, well, you know, these men, they age better.

06:01:56.800 Whatever.

06:01:57.420 I actually want to show a photo of young Brian.

06:02:00.700 Watch out, Brian donated $100.

06:02:04.160 Sorry, to clarify the expose she's publicly teased on our channel would be about your personal history.

06:02:10.940 Considering you're a chill dude, it seems to be a bridge too far to dig up your past like that.

06:02:16.320 Oh, you mean female innuendo and slander instead of actually debating any topics of substance?

06:02:23.580 It's just that Brian bad.

06:02:25.180 Brian bad.

06:02:26.520 Brian bad.

06:02:27.360 You know, it's really funny too is like all the resources which are available to male streamers where they could do something counter to that.

06:02:34.640 They could literally hire PIs, dive into a woman's past, look up their exes, bring them on, do horrible things to them, and they don't.

06:02:42.520 Isn't that interesting?

06:02:44.580 Yeah, it is interesting.

06:02:45.300 I mean, when it comes to this Ava girl, I don't really remember most of the content of most of the conversations I have because I have so many of them.

06:02:58.180 I don't think...

06:03:00.900 Andrew, were you on that panel?

06:03:02.380 It was the redhead who was sitting here. 1.00

06:03:05.200 Is that the Jessica Rabbit?

06:03:07.380 No, no, no.

06:03:08.380 It was, it was, I'm trying to think which, you might have not been on that, I'm trying to remember when it was.

06:03:20.000 It was Dating Talk 191.

06:03:26.060 So, you were not on this panel.

06:03:31.380 Okay, you were not on that panel, Andrew.

06:03:33.680 It was the redhead. 0.99

06:03:34.600 So, wait, so who was there with you?

06:03:40.080 It was just me.

06:03:41.020 It was just me.

06:03:41.740 There was no, like, other special guest.

06:03:43.060 So, wait, so you versus an entire panel, and there's going to be underhanded debate tactics, huh?

06:03:50.300 Poor Brian.

06:03:50.840 Brian, why didn't you just tie yourself up and let them beat you half to death with sticks while you just stood there and took it? 0.91

06:03:58.280 I mean, how dare you ever speak a word, on your own show especially, to the goddess women?

06:04:05.100 Yeah, I don't know.

06:04:09.700 That's kind of weird, though.

06:04:11.340 Like, why not just debate the actual, like, what she disagreed with me on?

06:04:16.120 I don't even think there was much of a major back and forth between me and her, though.

06:04:21.400 Well, the only thing was, before the show, she kind of, like, was, like, talking to one of the guests and then made the guest feel uncomfortable about being on the show, essentially, and then the guest left before the show.

06:04:35.560 Yeah, but I'm sure that that was your fault somehow, Brian.

06:04:39.100 I mean, let's be real.

06:04:39.980 Well, I appreciate the heads up.

06:04:42.020 If she's going to make it, she's going to make it.

06:04:44.040 But, okay.

06:04:46.780 She's going to do an expose on Brian Alice.

06:04:48.680 All right.

06:04:49.180 Go ahead.

06:04:50.520 Or don't go ahead.

06:04:51.140 Well, I can't. 0.97

06:04:51.600 I can't wait to tear it to pieces.

06:04:53.260 It should be a lot of fun.

06:04:54.360 Hail and well met.

06:04:58.280 Lol Paladins donated $100 and two cents.

06:05:02.260 You women need a dose of reality because no one is giving you pushback. 1.00

06:05:06.220 But you all just need to hear this.

06:05:08.280 No one looks better at 57 than 27. 0.99

06:05:11.820 No one stopped being silly. 0.99

06:05:14.020 Fix your thinking you are wrong. 0.99

06:05:15.760 You know what's crazy, though?

06:05:16.960 Lol Paladins.

06:05:17.560 Thank you, man.

06:05:18.000 Appreciate that.

06:05:19.140 I won't derail the conversation on this too long.

06:05:21.540 Is the malevolence of women. 1.00

06:05:23.100 Is that I've had numerous, like, heated debates with women on the show. 1.00

06:05:28.920 And it never occurred to me to, like, try to ruin their life because I disagreed with them.

06:05:34.580 But there have been plenty of women who have come on the show who I've actually not even done any, like, not even said anything really mean or offensive to them.

06:05:43.620 Who just have this desire.

06:05:46.820 This is how, I mean, this is how women operate. 1.00

06:05:49.640 Basically, reputation destruction.

06:05:53.100 I just find that very interesting.

06:05:55.520 But, Brian, wait a second.

06:05:56.880 Hang on.

06:05:58.080 I need you to understand why you're in the wrong here.

06:06:00.840 You're in the wrong because women are born perfect angels. 1.00

06:06:04.680 Ontologically perfect in every single conceivable way which is possible.

06:06:08.720 And then what happens is a mean old man comes and corrupts their ultimate purity and their perfectness and turns them into, like Desiree over here, some sort of perverse monster.

06:06:23.040 But it's really men's fault. 0.99

06:06:24.580 They had nothing to do with it.

06:06:27.400 It's men's fault, Brian. 1.00

06:06:28.760 Yeah, it's true.

06:06:34.540 Anyways, so where was I?

06:06:38.240 I don't know.

06:06:41.240 What were we talking about?

06:06:43.140 Oh, we were going to pull up.

06:06:44.440 Wait, okay.

06:06:45.840 No, there's two photos.

06:06:47.740 There's, like, the face photos.

06:06:51.500 Do you see those?

06:06:52.500 Yes.

06:06:53.580 Let's pull up the two, and then we'll pull up my photos from when I was young or whatever.

06:06:58.160 Oh, David, which two photos?

06:07:01.260 Of you?

06:07:02.200 No, no, no.

06:07:02.860 So I'm pretty sure there's, like, transition photos of women from, like, 20, 30, 40, 50.

06:07:09.180 I think those are there.

06:07:16.740 While you guys are waiting, if you can, go to twitch.tv slash whatever and drop us a follow.

06:07:20.500 Okay, so, yeah, this is the one.

06:07:24.660 I think there's another one, too, but we'll stay with this one.

06:07:27.020 So 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s.

06:07:34.740 So, I mean, I'm assuming this has been, like, computer altered, and it's not actually, like.

06:07:41.540 It is interesting, though, that, I don't know, I thought I'd pull that up.

06:07:48.140 People just get worse looking.

06:07:49.960 And that's with no anti-aging, like, hair.

06:07:52.900 No, that's just normal.

06:07:55.600 No cream.

06:07:56.140 I haven't really seen that.

06:07:56.860 Truth be told, she, I mean, okay.

06:07:59.140 Is there another one?

06:07:59.940 The women in my family, I guess, are a little more. 1.00

06:08:00.700 Is there another one?

06:08:01.700 That's kind of like, no, no, no, no, no.

06:08:03.580 You can't get out, you can't, you can't show.

06:08:07.460 It's okay.

06:08:09.500 No, that's not the one.

06:08:10.440 And just to be clear, guys, when I'm talking about Ava, it's not the Ava who's been sitting here.

06:08:15.080 It's the one who was on one episode.

06:08:17.140 She sat across, redhead.

06:08:21.640 Is there another one, or is that?

06:08:23.100 No, that's it.

06:08:23.820 Okay, then you can just pull up my Instagram.

06:08:26.300 Did we already pull this up on stream?

06:08:28.460 Yes.

06:08:29.520 Okay, let's pull it up.

06:08:33.440 And scroll all the way to the bottom.

06:08:38.360 Okay, this is, like, young Brian here.

06:08:41.580 Tank top photo.

06:08:42.420 So, I think I was 23 here.

06:08:48.520 Yeah, I think I was 23.

06:08:49.640 I'm 35 now.

06:08:50.700 X out of it.

06:08:55.540 Scroll down a bit.

06:08:57.480 Scroll down.

06:09:02.880 Scroll down.

06:09:03.480 Is that all the way?

06:09:04.240 Yeah.

06:09:04.580 Okay, scroll back up.

06:09:07.860 It's like, even I was better looking when I was younger.

06:09:12.420 I disagree.

06:09:14.000 Okay.

06:09:15.060 I agree, but I think it's more about, like, the shape.

06:09:18.120 Like, your face, it looks the same, more or less.

06:09:20.860 It's how you carry yourself, Brian.

06:09:21.780 So, like, if you goof around, do something, like, keep yourself, like, I'm not saying,

06:09:27.240 I'm not judging you.

06:09:28.720 No, it's okay. 0.94

06:09:29.680 You should bully me. 0.63

06:09:30.820 Bully me. 1.00

06:09:31.180 Call me fat. 0.90

06:09:31.620 No, no, I'm not saying that.

06:09:32.820 I need to lose weight.

06:09:33.320 I feel like in your, like, 20s, 30s, and, like, until, I don't know, 40, your face,

06:09:41.040 it's kind of the same with some differences, but you can still, like, be in shape, I think.

06:09:49.460 Yeah, I got to lose weight.

06:09:50.480 I think, too.

06:09:51.820 I got to lose some weight.

06:09:53.860 As men age, though, our taste in men changes.

06:09:56.680 No, no, no, no.

06:09:56.700 Don't do that.

06:09:57.300 Likewise, I think.

06:09:58.440 What were you saying?

06:09:59.180 Somebody else said something?

06:10:00.300 I don't know.

06:10:00.680 The Dutch Jessica Abbott donated $100.

06:10:04.800 Why do men age like wine and women age like milk? 0.99

06:10:08.360 Ha, ha.

06:10:08.780 It's all the years of breastfeeding, maybe.

06:10:11.020 We got spoiled.

06:10:12.940 Why do men age like wine?

06:10:14.580 Bro, I'm literally the Dutch.

06:10:16.520 Oh, it's Tamara.

06:10:17.680 Hey, Tamara. 1.00

06:10:18.320 Good to see you in the chat.

06:10:19.340 I appreciate you.

06:10:20.300 You're a good sport.

06:10:20.840 I was a little tilted.

06:10:21.740 Oh, she's here.

06:10:22.040 I was a little tilted.

06:10:23.380 She's so beautiful, I think.

06:10:24.400 I was a bit tilted when you were on the show, so I appreciate the TTS.

06:10:29.080 Thank you.

06:10:29.900 Thank you.

06:10:30.720 That's the girl who I got tilted on my show.

06:10:34.620 I like her.

06:10:35.660 I like her.

06:10:36.240 She's nice.

06:10:36.840 She's nice.

06:10:37.340 Well, but Desiree, I don't think you two would ever get along.

06:10:42.420 I did get the feeling from the Dutch Jessica Rabbit that she was somewhat stable and probably 0.98

06:10:47.060 would not want to enter into any sort of friendship with an absolute psychopath such as yourself. 0.66

06:10:52.500 So it's just my take on that.

06:10:54.580 Wait, pull it up again, Austin.

06:10:55.740 Pull up my Instagram again.

06:10:56.820 He says men that age like, I'm sorry, bruv.

06:10:59.920 I was better looking.

06:11:00.960 Scroll up a bit.

06:11:01.600 You were attractive.

06:11:02.420 Wait, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.

06:11:04.340 I think you're self-conscious of your actual weight right now.

06:11:06.660 Click the one in the black and the white.

06:11:08.920 The black and white one.

06:11:10.780 Bruv.

06:11:11.400 Hold on.

06:11:11.900 You look like you're still active.

06:11:13.140 You look like my son.

06:11:14.140 This guy.

06:11:14.700 Hold on.

06:11:15.100 Put it up again.

06:11:16.420 I can't be attracted to that.

06:11:17.780 That's creepy.

06:11:19.740 I can't even.

06:11:20.440 When I was that age. 1.00

06:11:21.960 Look at these fucking eye bags. 1.00

06:11:23.580 Look at the stress. 1.00

06:11:23.820 But I have the eye bags too. 1.00

06:11:25.060 Look at the fucking stress. 1.00

06:11:26.000 I got fucking. 1.00

06:11:27.200 I have eye bags too. 1.00

06:11:27.400 My face is all red from fucking stress and cortisol. 0.99

06:11:30.720 Same. 1.00

06:11:31.220 You're a grown man.

06:11:31.540 Same.

06:11:32.020 So it's like my taste is lowering maybe as my bags are coming in too.

06:11:37.440 I have more grace.

06:11:38.520 I'm just saying, man.

06:11:39.460 I think it's beautiful.

06:11:39.800 I was better looking.

06:11:41.500 I was better looking.

06:11:42.160 It shows how hard worker you are. 0.67

06:11:44.340 You are such a freaking hard worker. 0.97

06:11:46.440 It's starting to show. 0.97

06:11:48.260 And now we can recognize that.

06:11:49.260 Wait, what?

06:11:50.440 Okay.

06:11:51.220 All right.

06:11:51.760 Men have a lot of stress.

06:11:55.800 Yeah.

06:11:56.380 So I was better looking when I was younger because I.

06:11:58.660 No, you were adorable.

06:11:59.580 No, you.

06:12:00.300 It was a whole different vibe back then.

06:12:02.580 That was like.

06:12:03.100 Look at this. 1.00

06:12:03.300 Look at these fucking chubby cheeks. 1.00

06:12:05.260 The chubby cheeks. 1.00

06:12:06.700 The fucking red. 1.00

06:12:07.940 Listen, you make me feel more beautiful about myself. 1.00

06:12:12.040 Chill out, Desiree.

06:12:12.880 All right.

06:12:13.000 So that's very sexy to me.

06:12:16.260 All right, Desiree.

06:12:16.980 Maybe that's a.

06:12:17.660 I'm impervious to your.

06:12:19.300 Andrew would call that coat.

06:12:20.380 I'm a curvist here.

06:12:21.360 You were good looking then.

06:12:22.500 You're good looking now.

06:12:23.320 It's not any less.

06:12:24.720 It's a different vibe.

06:12:25.460 It's just.

06:12:26.400 Right.

06:12:26.780 It's a different vibe.

06:12:28.540 You've got the mature vibe about you.

06:12:31.260 Really?

06:12:31.620 The daddy vibe.

06:12:32.560 I lose my mind.

06:12:34.700 Daddy vibe.

06:12:35.500 I'm not sure if I, I think I, I don't know.

06:12:38.300 I don't think.

06:12:38.700 Okay.

06:12:38.920 Anyways, let's, let's get through some more stuff here.

06:12:43.280 Vivian.

06:12:43.920 We're going to go to Vivian.

06:12:46.620 Vivian.

06:12:47.340 It's like an aunt name.

06:12:48.920 Vivian.

06:12:49.580 Vivian.

06:12:50.840 Sorry.

06:12:51.420 Victorian Ann.

06:12:51.780 Sorry, Vivian.

06:12:52.440 Was your mother a fan of Pretty Woman?

06:12:54.520 Vivian.

06:12:55.600 I don't think.

06:12:57.660 No, I don't think so.

06:12:59.500 So Andrew's dying to have this back and forth with you, Vivian.

06:13:03.040 Her name was Vivian.

06:13:04.340 Vivian.

06:13:05.620 You, uh.

06:13:06.240 Pale and well met.

06:13:07.520 Yo, thank you, Lopaladins.

06:13:08.520 Lopaladins donated $100 and two cents.

06:13:11.900 Oh, I like the one that was Maddie's friend that pretended not to speak English.

06:13:17.000 Screw fakewish.com Ava. 1.00

06:13:19.160 Figuratively speaking.

06:13:20.820 Don't bring her back.

06:13:22.380 She was boring. 1.00

06:13:23.600 Wait.

06:13:23.780 I rescind my previous TTS.

06:13:26.340 Wait, what?

06:13:28.320 Screw, figure, don't bring her back. 0.86

06:13:30.420 She was boring. 1.00

06:13:30.960 I rescind.

06:13:31.380 Oh, Lopaladins.

06:13:32.240 Thank you, man.

06:13:33.160 Appreciate it.

06:13:33.780 I like the one that was Maddie's friend that pretended not to say.

06:13:37.360 Wait.

06:13:38.560 Oh, the other Ava.

06:13:39.700 Yeah.

06:13:39.960 Remember you?

06:13:40.940 Yeah.

06:13:41.440 We'll get her back on.

06:13:43.340 That's cute.

06:13:44.520 The Dutch Jessica Rabbit donated $100.

06:13:48.700 No, we will not be friends like Andrew is saying.

06:13:51.840 Thanks you for the compliment.

06:13:53.160 You look cute, too.

06:13:54.700 Brian, good tools hang under a canopy, so you are fine.

06:13:58.340 What does that mean?

06:13:59.280 Good tools hang under a canopy.

06:14:02.040 Are you talking about, like, the belly and maybe the tool?

06:14:05.200 Oh, yeah, maybe your belly. 0.69

06:14:06.080 Oh, God.

06:14:06.640 She's talking about the fupa. 1.00

06:14:07.760 Oh, your dick. 1.00

06:14:08.300 And your dick is covered by a canopy. 1.00

06:14:10.740 She says I have a fupa? 1.00

06:14:13.320 Well, let's call it a...

06:14:14.620 Or a fuda.

06:14:15.500 Let's call it a dad belly.

06:14:17.780 They also call it a dad.

06:14:18.760 A dad.

06:14:19.540 Oh, boy.

06:14:20.260 Maybe that's from eating all the women on your show. 1.00

06:14:23.200 Okay. 0.90

06:14:25.340 Energetically.

06:14:26.820 It landed in your gut. 1.00

06:14:28.220 Your chakra is just a little fucked up. 1.00

06:14:30.180 You want me to clear that for you? 1.00

06:14:31.380 Oh, great.

06:14:32.720 I'm going to clear your chakra for you.

06:14:34.400 You'll just lose the weight.

06:14:35.600 So, okay, Vivian, women's rights being made up. 1.00

06:14:38.680 This is a conversation you wanted to have with Andrew.

06:14:41.020 Go ahead.

06:14:41.520 Well, we did already.

06:14:43.560 So, me and you, actually, I feel like you defended it well.

06:14:46.860 And I just thought that there was, like, something more being implied.

06:14:51.340 But it was just stating the obvious.

06:14:53.820 So, I just was, like, reading too much into it.

06:14:57.520 So, I don't really...

06:14:58.720 So, you...

06:15:00.280 I don't really care about it.

06:15:01.440 Is this, like, a pass?

06:15:02.460 Okay.

06:15:02.680 Yeah.

06:15:04.100 You wanted to say men's body count and women's body count don't have different value.

06:15:07.700 Otherwise, that's a double standard.

06:15:09.820 I mean, you said you agreed with that last...

06:15:12.700 No, I don't.

06:15:13.280 You said it's not morally worse for...

06:15:16.360 Well, okay.

06:15:17.480 I mean, I think...

06:15:18.480 Well, I don't remember what I said, to be honest.

06:15:19.740 So, yeah, let me clarify what I mean.

06:15:21.880 I don't...

06:15:23.480 So, a man that has a body count of 300 is not morally better than a woman who has a body count of 300. 0.77

06:15:32.740 Not to say that they're impacted differently by bodies.

06:15:36.680 So, you're saying morally.

06:15:38.340 Andrew, any thoughts on the moral component of this?

06:15:40.780 Yeah, so...

06:15:45.280 Well, let's dive in.

06:15:47.220 When you say moral, what does that mean to you?

06:15:51.680 I mean, the...

06:15:53.900 It shouldn't...

06:15:56.700 It's not...

06:15:59.580 The moral badness, the metric for you to say it's bad or good.

06:16:06.120 The metric for bad or...

06:16:09.760 Morality, yeah, definitely.

06:16:11.960 Okay, well, what's bad mean to you?

06:16:15.200 So, it's the same question as what does moral mean to you, but what does bad mean?

06:16:19.620 What's bad?

06:16:20.920 I have different things that I find bad and good.

06:16:24.260 I judge different things differently, but...

06:16:26.800 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

06:16:27.680 But I would say that it's...

06:16:30.760 For me, it's how much it...

06:16:33.040 It's the impacts of something.

06:16:35.340 Ah, well, then you can't say it's immoral.

06:16:37.920 So, if the idea here is that the impact, and the impact being, like, the outcome is negative, right?

06:16:46.380 It's how much it, like, damages another person.

06:16:49.300 Okay, well, then all you need to do is demonstrate why it is that male promiscuity, which women don't seem to care about, is bad for men, whereas female promiscuity, which men do seem to care about, isn't bad for women. 0.52

06:17:07.180 No, I'm...

06:17:07.760 Well, I'm saying that it's not...

06:17:09.380 It's equal.

06:17:10.140 I'm saying it's equal.

06:17:11.820 I'm saying...

06:17:12.040 Why?

06:17:12.760 Yeah, but that doesn't make any sense, so...

06:17:15.120 How does it not make any sense?

06:17:15.900 Your idea here is outcomes.

06:17:17.040 Well, your idea here is outcomes, right?

06:17:18.780 So, the outcome bad, outcome bad, therefore bad?

06:17:21.980 It doesn't hurt more people for...

06:17:24.980 Because of your gender, you're sleeping with the same amount of people, it's the same amount of... 0.87

06:17:30.860 Yeah, I get that, I get that.

06:17:32.720 I get all that, that you're sleeping with the same amount of people, so it's not fair, I understand that.

06:17:37.760 But when I asked you what is bad, you said, if the outcome is negative, that's a bad thing.

06:17:45.360 Is that right?

06:17:48.040 Yeah.

06:17:48.780 Okay, so if we're going off of the outcome is bad, all I need you to do is explain to me why it is that when men sleep with a lot of women, women don't care. 0.98

06:17:59.560 But when women sleep with a lot of men, men care.

06:18:03.560 So, it seems like the outcome for women... 1.00

06:18:05.760 So, if we're going off of outcomes, it seems like if that is the case, that women sleeping with a lot of men is bad, and men sleeping with a lot of women is not bad because the outcome, right? 0.68

06:18:18.820 Is there a question?

06:18:22.700 Is there a question?

06:18:24.500 Yeah.

06:18:24.980 Yeah, so here's the question.

06:18:27.340 Do you think that women care more about men sleeping with a lot of women, or what?

06:18:34.740 So, from your view, man sleeps with 20 women, do you think that women see that as the same as if a woman sleeps with 20 men to a man?

06:18:46.300 I think that men, society does not judge men as much, or men don't judge other men as much, but I think men have an animosity towards women with high body counts.

06:19:07.680 They have a negative preference, they don't, they tend to...

06:19:11.600 I agree.

06:19:12.180 So, men have a negative preference towards women with a high body count, but women don't have a negative preference towards men with a high body count.

06:19:20.340 So, it seems like the outcome, then, would be bad for women to have a high body count, but not bad for men to have a high body count.

06:19:27.260 So, therefore, by your preferences, it would be immoral for women to have a high body count, but not for men. 0.81

06:19:33.320 I don't, that's, I disagree that that...

06:19:36.480 Okay, well, then explain here.

06:19:37.680 So, the act itself of a woman sleeping with 300 people versus a man sleeping with 300 people is morally equal. 0.90

06:19:51.980 Yeah, you just keep saying that, but when I ask you what moral is, you say it's an outcome which is negative, or that's what immoral is, that's what bad is.

06:20:01.480 Outcome negative.

06:20:02.360 But if a man sleeps with 300 women, and women don't care, how's that a negative outcome? 0.97

06:20:08.800 Just because men judge women more for that particular thing doesn't mean it's morally bad at the action.

06:20:18.820 Because if, because it's the same if a man is to sleep with 300 women, and, or if a woman is to sleep with 300 men, or, you know, bodies, I think that the action in of itself, it should be judged the same.

06:20:36.880 It's not, but just because it's judged the same doesn't mean it's worse.

06:20:40.320 Okay, hang on.

06:20:41.780 Let's, let's make sure we're clear on this.

06:20:44.460 What is immoral, and is bad, is outcome bad, right?

06:20:51.700 The, the direct outcome of the, the direct impact, so.

06:20:56.380 Yeah, yeah, so that's bad, right?

06:20:58.280 So, therefore, immoral, right?

06:21:02.640 Yeah, if it's bad, that's, yeah.

06:21:05.040 Okay, got it.

06:21:05.820 So, so if a man sleeps with 300 women, but no women care, how could that possibly be bad? 0.98

06:21:14.060 I'm not even saying that sleeping with people is bad inherently.

06:21:19.160 I don't think it's bad inherently.

06:21:21.080 I'm saying, I think they should be judged equally for it.

06:21:25.840 Yeah, but that doesn't make any sense.

06:21:27.800 Do you realize that if you say, if you say, thing is bad because outcome, bad, but the outcome is not bad, then how can you say it's immoral?

06:21:40.060 I think, I think what you're saying is because men, because there's more of a repercussion for women socially, it's, it's, it affects women more, but that's not the direct, that's a secondary reaction to the act.

06:21:57.800 The act itself is morally the same.

06:22:00.840 It's just that men happen to have a preference.

06:22:02.740 I don't understand how it could be moral.

06:22:04.080 So, so here, let's isolate it.

06:22:06.220 Okay.

06:22:06.520 So if you're, you're on an island with, um, let's say it's one man and 20 women and he sleeps with all of the women and all of the women want to sleep with him and he wants to sleep with all of them. 0.59

06:22:19.240 Okay.

06:22:19.620 And all of the women think he's great and he thinks all of them are great.

06:22:23.780 Has any bad action or immoral action taken place here?

06:22:27.940 No.

06:22:29.060 Okay.

06:22:29.560 Great.

06:22:29.900 Now, let us assume for a second that there's one woman and 20 men and the more men she sleeps with, the more other men rebuff her and say she's bad. 1.00

06:22:40.360 They don't want anything to do with her.

06:22:41.800 Has a bad action taken place here?

06:22:44.120 No, that's just a preference.

06:22:45.500 Well, then I don't know what you mean by bad then.

06:22:48.080 I don't know.

06:22:48.540 I don't know what bad is.

06:22:50.040 I think you misunderstand.

06:22:50.720 If the outcome, if the outcome for the person is bad, but that's still not bad, right?

06:22:56.200 Or it's negative and it's still not bad, then I don't know what bad means.

06:22:59.780 I don't know what immoral means to you here.

06:23:03.260 So if, if by society, me wearing blue was considered bad, wearing blue isn't inherently bad, but it's considered bad.

06:23:11.920 Is there anything that's inherently bad?

06:23:15.240 I think, yeah, I, I actually have a moral code.

06:23:18.740 Well, what is it?

06:23:19.420 So tell me what's, what, give me a single thing that's inherently bad.

06:23:25.300 So if I, if I deem something in, in just, it's, it's subjective.

06:23:31.200 It's subjective.

06:23:31.680 Wait, so you're, you're the moral arbiter of all that is bad?

06:23:35.120 I make up my own morals, no.

06:23:37.420 So you're the moral arbiter of all that is bad?

06:23:39.840 I just said no.

06:23:41.480 Okay, well then who is?

06:23:44.360 We make up morals.

06:23:46.420 So then that would mean that you're the arbiter of all that is bad, right?

06:23:50.820 If not you, then who?

06:23:54.060 I don't, I don't know that there's an arbiter of all that is bad.

06:23:57.160 I don't know what you're talking about.

06:23:58.640 Well, then what is bad?

06:24:00.000 If you just say everything that's bad is everything that doesn't.

06:24:03.220 Well, paladins donated $100 and two cents.

06:24:07.840 We don't need to talk hypothetically.

06:24:09.680 I'm in the middle of something.

06:24:11.580 And I've slept with over 300 women. 1.00

06:24:14.360 And I've had no bad outcome at all ever.

06:24:17.000 It's only been good outcomes.

06:24:18.800 Yeah, so back to this real quick.

06:24:25.240 Do you just judge bad by what goes against your preferences?

06:24:29.760 No, I have a code, a moral code.

06:24:33.380 Okay, and so the code that you live by is appealing to who for what is bad or what?

06:24:41.020 I try and look at it objectively.

06:24:43.140 I try and say, if I wouldn't want this happening to me, then I probably shouldn't do it.

06:24:49.440 And I try and zoom out.

06:24:51.800 Okay, so whose preferences are you following?

06:24:55.000 My own.

06:24:56.420 Your own, okay.

06:24:57.480 And so if something doesn't align with those preferences, it's bad, right?

06:25:00.580 No, I'm saying if, no, actually I'm saying if it affects someone.

06:25:05.060 If it affects someone.

06:25:06.040 Okay, so let me make this super clear.

06:25:08.500 So Desiree says, no, this is bad.

06:25:10.720 You say it's good.

06:25:11.760 But what makes you right and her wrong?

06:25:15.300 Well, she can have her preference, her opinion.

06:25:18.340 Yes, what makes you right and her wrong, though?

06:25:20.800 The way you argue it.

06:25:22.600 The logic.

06:25:24.200 What?

06:25:25.560 Yeah, if you're going to try and, that's how you prove things.

06:25:28.520 By logic.

06:25:28.760 So let's say, okay.

06:25:30.380 So let's say Desiree says, sleeping with a corpse is okay.

06:25:34.400 And you say, no, it's wrong.

06:25:35.860 What makes you right and her wrong?

06:25:37.500 Well, if I say, if you were a corpse, well, if I say, I think, I think, like, we can all

06:25:44.620 agree that, that if we were corpses, we would not want people disrespecting.

06:25:50.120 Wait, so we, we appeal to we all for what is moral?

06:25:52.940 So if we all say it's okay to, like, beat a person to death, that's now moral?

06:25:56.860 What?

06:25:58.100 If we all say it's okay to beat a person to death and that's moral then?

06:26:01.160 Well, we make up what is moral and what is not moral, just like rights.

06:26:04.600 Oh, so we make it up, okay.

06:26:05.880 Didn't you say rights are made up?

06:26:07.980 So if we make up what is moral and Desiree says, X thing is moral, how could you ever

06:26:12.940 tell her she's wrong?

06:26:14.120 You argue it like we're doing right now with...

06:26:16.800 Why, why, even if you were right, would that make what she's saying immoral?

06:26:21.860 Even if your argument was...

06:26:22.480 It's an opinion.

06:26:23.020 It was, even, even if she was, so let's say, through argumentation, you were able to come

06:26:29.720 to the conclusion that this thing over here, I have an inconsistent take with it, that still

06:26:36.320 wouldn't demonstrate why it's wrong.

06:26:40.820 Isn't that a law of logic?

06:26:43.100 No.

06:26:43.380 That if it's self-contradicting, isn't that a...

06:26:46.700 No, that's not a contradiction.

06:26:48.840 Wow, okay, so what is it that you're saying?

06:26:51.180 Well, logic inconsistent is not a contradiction, so, so here, let me, like, let me help you

06:26:55.440 out here.

06:26:56.560 Somebody goes up, and they grab a raccoon, a dead raccoon, off the road, and they have 0.87

06:27:01.360 sex with it. 0.94

06:27:02.200 Tell me why that's wrong. 0.97

06:27:04.220 Other than, other than, because I don't like it.

06:27:08.400 Because animals can't consent.

06:27:11.540 They don't have the mental capacity.

06:27:12.560 Why is that important?

06:27:14.540 Why is that important?

06:27:15.680 So that we don't do that to raccoons, I guess.

06:27:18.660 Yeah, but it's dead.

06:27:20.020 Why would you need it to consent?

06:27:21.880 Because we respect the dead as a...

06:27:24.560 Well, what do you mean, we?

06:27:26.340 Obviously, the person doing it doesn't.

06:27:29.280 Yes, that's true.

06:27:30.960 Why are they wrong?

06:27:33.000 Why are they doing something that's wrong?

06:27:34.980 Because we deemed it as wrong, and we have reasons that we deem it as wrong.

06:27:39.320 What do you keep saying we for?

06:27:41.620 Oh, my God.

06:27:42.200 What are your reasons?

06:27:43.060 What are your reasons for why it's wrong?

06:27:45.260 Why is it wrong for him to do that?

06:27:47.840 Why?

06:27:48.520 You just keep saying we.

06:27:49.700 That doesn't mean anything.

06:27:51.020 Why do you think it's wrong for him to do that?

06:27:55.000 If I was a...

06:27:56.260 Well, if I...

06:27:57.740 A raccoon has the...

06:27:59.140 I mean, wait, a dead raccoon.

06:28:00.560 So it...

06:28:01.700 That's a dead thing.

06:28:03.140 So if I was a dead corpse, I would not want to be...

06:28:06.380 Essay-ed.

06:28:10.880 So that's where I get my idea from.

06:28:12.620 Yeah, but so what?

06:28:13.460 Why should we give to your preference for what you would want?

06:28:17.540 Why is what you want what is moral?

06:28:19.780 Because if we all treat each other how we want to be treated...

06:28:23.540 So it's all consensus.

06:28:24.800 Back to consensus.

06:28:25.900 We all, us, we, most of us.

06:28:29.580 Is morality consensus or is morality you?

06:28:33.680 Morality is a discourse.

06:28:36.420 What?

06:28:38.240 Wait, so as long as we all agree on something, it's moral?

06:28:43.520 It's a word to describe if we think it's bad or good.

06:28:49.680 Okay, so we, meaning collectively.

06:28:52.380 The people who speak English.

06:28:53.900 So most of us...

06:28:54.840 So wait, wait.

06:28:55.560 I just want to make sure I got this right.

06:28:56.700 If most of us think a thing is moral, it is moral?

06:28:59.580 It's considered moral.

06:29:03.800 Is it moral?

06:29:05.840 I don't believe that there's inherent...

06:29:08.580 I mean, animals kill animals all the time.

06:29:13.980 That's why, I mean...

06:29:16.620 Animals do horrible things.

06:29:18.800 They're not, but we don't consider them evil.

06:29:21.240 It's all relative.

06:29:21.560 I don't feel like we're getting any closer to what is moral.

06:29:24.780 Who determines what is moral?

06:29:26.540 How do we determine that?

06:29:27.740 Is that just based on consensus then?

06:29:31.400 Yeah.

06:29:32.700 Okay, so if it's just based on consensus, then the Aztec Empire, the consensus was it was

06:29:37.700 okay to take a person on top of a pyramid, cut their chest open, pull their heart out,

06:29:42.040 and sacrifice it to the sun god. 0.94

06:29:44.340 Most of them agreed that that was moral.

06:29:46.180 That was moral, correct?

06:29:48.540 No.

06:29:50.300 Why?

06:29:50.700 We don't think that anymore.

06:29:54.520 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Eve.

06:29:55.700 They did.

06:29:57.120 They did.

06:29:58.000 I was just talking about the humans.

06:29:58.680 All of them did.

06:30:00.620 There is no morality if there's no humans.

06:30:03.420 There's no one to judge it.

06:30:04.700 It's the judger. 0.83

06:30:05.660 They thought it was moral.

06:30:07.540 Why do you say it wasn't moral for them to do that?

06:30:11.340 Andrew, it's a judgment that a person makes.

06:30:14.980 That's why I'm saying we.

06:30:16.020 I'm talking about the human race.

06:30:17.140 So you, you mean you.

06:30:19.160 People think conscious brains make judgments.

06:30:23.140 That's what morality is.

06:30:25.980 Okay, so morality is conscious brains making judgments.

06:30:29.260 So if all the conscious brains make the judgment that sacrificing a person on top of a pyramid

06:30:33.200 and cutting their heart out and sacrificing it raw is okay, then it's okay, right?

06:30:39.380 Well, I don't think anything is inherently bad or good.

06:30:44.240 It's what we decide.

06:30:45.200 So we evolved to say no, it's not. 1.00

06:30:48.180 To take a guy up on top of a pyramid, cut their fucking heart out, and sacrifice it to the sun god, that's okay, right? 0.99

06:30:55.160 I would say they had flawed logic. 1.00

06:30:56.680 I would say they had flawed logic, and they were probably following religious belief.

06:31:00.220 Well, is the person being sacrificed willing?

06:31:04.200 Stop, Desiree.

06:31:05.220 Show me what they did, which was illogical.

06:31:07.560 Well, I'm going based off of treat others how you would want to be treated, which I think is a good moral code.

06:31:14.780 They want to have their heart cut out and given to the sun god. 1.00

06:31:18.580 They want that shit. 1.00

06:31:19.600 It's consensual. 1.00

06:31:20.260 It's part of their culture.

06:31:21.460 I don't see the problem with it.

06:31:22.420 Let her talk, Desiree.

06:31:23.580 We don't need you involved.

06:31:24.660 I promise.

06:31:25.420 Can we just finish our combo?

06:31:26.960 We're almost done.

06:31:27.800 So, what is actually wrong if the guy says, cut my heart out, and they all cut his heart out?

06:31:33.720 What is actually wrong with that? 0.67

06:31:36.180 I'm not going to honestly say that you're a bad person if you commit suicide. 0.94

06:31:42.620 So, hang on.

06:31:44.440 Now, let's say he's the one guy on planet Earth, one guy who doesn't want his heart cut out,

06:31:50.200 and all of the rest of humanity does.

06:31:53.740 Why should he not have his heart cut out?

06:31:57.800 There's no grander judgment that you can make.

06:32:02.140 There's no objective judgment.

06:32:03.980 There is no objective judgment. 0.99

06:32:05.140 Like, give a shit about anything you say when you say to me, there's no objective morality, 0.98

06:32:10.960 there's no objective judgment, there's no objective... 0.99

06:32:13.380 Let me ask you a question.

06:32:14.780 There's no objective morality, correct?

06:32:17.540 Not in my opinion.

06:32:19.040 Is that objective?

06:32:21.140 No, it's an opinion.

06:32:22.540 Yes, right.

06:32:23.240 So, it's not even objective then either, right?

06:32:25.160 So, if morality is just this subjective trite, and you can just come up with whatever the 0.53

06:32:30.340 fuck you want, and it's just all based on consensus, then if the consensus says that 0.99

06:32:35.200 men can fuck as many women as they want, and women can't fuck as many men as they want, 1.00

06:32:40.100 how can you give me a single objection to that? 1.00

06:32:42.080 Uh, if it's, it may be considered, I can disagree with it personally.

06:32:49.840 I can say I have a different logic that I follow, so people have different...

06:32:53.960 Great, give me the logic that you follow that if the consensus says it's perfectly acceptable 0.99

06:32:59.220 for men to fuck 500 women, and it's not even acceptable for women to fuck one woman, give 0.99

06:33:05.960 me the logic that shows that that would be wrong in some way. 0.99

06:33:10.760 My logic would be it's a double standard.

06:33:14.140 Yeah, what's wrong with a double standard?

06:33:16.340 Well, I think, I think people should be treated equally to the best, you know.

06:33:22.380 Yeah, but why should they be?

06:33:24.220 Because I would, I, I think that's what's in the best interest for the world.

06:33:29.300 So, you are the ultimate arbiter of morality, right?

06:33:32.580 Of my morality, yeah.

06:33:34.280 Yeah, so you're, so you, you personally are the ultimate arbiter of morality.

06:33:39.420 Of my morality, I think, me, me, me.

06:33:41.480 Of my morality.

06:33:42.040 What?

06:33:42.920 I, I, I make my own opinions. 1.00

06:33:46.320 Right, so you, so wait, so if all of society said if men fuck 500 women, that's fine, but 1.00

06:33:54.040 if women fuck one man, that's not fine. 1.00

06:33:57.040 You would dissent and disagree and say all of them were doing something immoral, right? 0.99

06:34:02.860 Uh, yeah, I disagree with you, so yeah.

06:34:07.280 So then who is the ultimate arbiter of morality?

06:34:10.360 No one.

06:34:11.820 You.

06:34:13.220 It has to be you.

06:34:14.240 What?

06:34:14.340 That's a logical, that's a logical entailment.

06:34:16.740 If all other human beings disagree with your logic, and you said logic is how you come

06:34:21.740 to this, right, you say, okay, all of you are wrong.

06:34:25.720 So I am the ultimate arbiter of what is moral, you're all wrong, and you shouldn't be doing

06:34:31.900 this, right?

06:34:32.800 No, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't deem, I would make an argument, I wouldn't deem, I wouldn't

06:34:37.720 say you're wrong no matter what, I have an open mind. 0.99

06:34:39.880 Yeah, if you listen to your argument and they say, fuck off, we're going to do it anyway. 0.99

06:34:42.160 If they, if, let me, let me, if they made a, if they made a argument that I, that I was 0.99

06:34:47.360 like, you know what, yeah, you're right, then I would change my mind.

06:34:50.760 But you say, no, you're not right, all of you are wrong, I still am going to go with

06:34:55.320 my preferences.

06:34:56.020 I haven't heard a good argument, I haven't heard a good argument for it.

06:34:58.320 Yeah, all of your, I just want to let you, so that you understand, all of your morality,

06:35:04.020 everything that you're considering moral right now is just coming from preferences.

06:35:07.460 You're just saying my, it doesn't align with my preferences, if it doesn't align with

06:35:10.800 what I prefer, then it's immoral.

06:35:12.940 You keep on saying things like, well, you would have to logically convince me, but why

06:35:17.440 is logic even important?

06:35:18.620 Can you even tell me why it's important?

06:35:21.960 Because it's a measure, it's measurable.

06:35:25.420 Logic is measurable?

06:35:29.000 That's, yes.

06:35:30.700 Tell me, how, how do you measure logic?

06:35:33.900 No, like, you try and prove things by measuring, by, by measurements, like saying, you are not

06:35:40.980 taller, like, like.

06:35:42.560 Deduction, like, you use deduction and all these, like, it's a math.

06:35:45.680 Things that you can measure is how you prove them.

06:35:48.060 It would be induction, not, not deduction.

06:35:50.780 That would be induction, but how do you measure, how do you measure logic?

06:35:55.380 Like, how, like, is logic six feet tall?

06:35:57.360 Logic is going to be fluid to the culture. 0.97

06:35:58.940 Shut up, Desiree, it's not your turn. 0.97

06:36:00.920 Is logic six feet tall? 0.98

06:36:02.460 Well, we, we say that tall, it means you are, you know, you stand physically higher, so if, if you were to measure and someone has a lower, a lower height, then you can say, with your logic, because you measured them, that they are shorter than the other person.

06:36:22.660 Why would that be logical?

06:36:25.960 Deduction.

06:36:26.940 You measured it.

06:36:28.660 I don't understand.

06:36:29.940 Why is measurement logical?

06:36:33.160 Because it's, it's objective.

06:36:36.160 What's objective?

06:36:37.440 It's literally subjective.

06:36:39.240 It, okay, tell me, what's objective about an inch?

06:36:42.260 Taller and shorter is an objective measurement of size.

06:36:47.840 Really?

06:36:48.400 Okay, give me the exact measurement, then, for tall.

06:36:52.940 No, you can consider something taller.

06:36:55.520 Oh, you can't, wait, wait, hang on, hang on.

06:36:57.280 I just want to make sure I got this right.

06:36:58.820 What is the objective measurement for tall?

06:37:01.560 Oh, if it's, if it's, if it's the length, the, the, if you measure something of its height.

06:37:07.540 Yeah, what is the logically objective measurement for tall?

06:37:13.480 It would be taller.

06:37:15.040 Yeah, it would be relative.

06:37:16.120 Relative to, you guys have three minutes on this and then I got to move it on.

06:37:19.440 Yeah, I'm almost done.

06:37:20.620 But what is the logically objective metric for tall again?

06:37:23.940 A bigger number versus a smaller number.

06:37:27.080 Yeah, but, okay, so what is tall though?

06:37:30.840 A bigger, bigger.

06:37:32.720 No, no, the baseline.

06:37:34.220 What is the baseline for tall?

06:37:36.440 There's no, there's no baseline for tall.

06:37:38.660 Everything.

06:37:39.240 How do you know?

06:37:40.680 Well, wait, I'm sorry.

06:37:42.580 So then how is tall, how is tall a logical objective metric then if there's no baseline

06:37:50.060 for it?

06:37:51.500 It's a, tall is a, you can use it as an adjective or you can say this is taller than this.

06:37:57.980 Like my house is not taller than the other power.

06:38:00.120 I understand taller than, meaning this thing bigger than this.

06:38:03.320 So that's objective, tall is not.

06:38:05.380 I got that, but you said there's an objective measurement for what is tall.

06:38:11.400 No, I didn't say that.

06:38:12.920 Oh, so it's subjective, what is tall?

06:38:16.480 It's tall compared to you.

06:38:18.500 It's a descriptor.

06:38:19.900 No, but what's the baseline for what is tall?

06:38:23.100 It's a descriptor, so there is no baseline for tall.

06:38:25.800 So it's just objective, right?

06:38:27.220 If, if it's an adjective and you're describing it.

06:38:33.380 Well, I mean, adjective is subjective, right?

06:38:36.420 Yeah.

06:38:37.240 Yeah.

06:38:37.800 Everything is subjective in your worldview, right?

06:38:40.820 You can, you can measure things.

06:38:43.880 Well, I don't understand.

06:38:44.960 That would be subjective.

06:38:46.120 Measurement is subjective.

06:38:47.760 Desert Joe donated $100.

06:38:50.500 Is it immoral for women to discriminate against short men? 0.76

06:38:54.140 Men, is it immoral for men to discriminate against fat women?

06:38:58.340 Hang on.

06:38:58.920 Before you get to this, I just want to wrap this up real quick.

06:39:01.180 I just want to make sure that I got this right.

06:39:03.980 That you are not the ultimate arbiter of what is moral.

06:39:07.220 That is correct, right?

06:39:08.320 It's society at large.

06:39:09.640 That is the arbiter of what is moral.

06:39:11.600 I don't believe that there is an arbiter of moral.

06:39:15.080 It's a thing that people decide individually.

06:39:18.520 Well, if people decide it individually, then each individual is the arbiter of what is moral.

06:39:22.720 Yeah.

06:39:24.140 Okay.

06:39:24.720 Well, then you, the individual, would be the arbiter of all that is moral.

06:39:28.440 No, of my morality.

06:39:30.400 Well, then, and if anything goes against your morality, it's immoral, right?

06:39:37.860 To me.

06:39:39.300 Then that would be you being the ultimate arbiter of what is moral.

06:39:43.160 There's more than me in the world.

06:39:45.340 And who else is the ultimate arbiter of what is moral except you?

06:39:48.500 I've said many times there's no arbiter of moral.

06:39:51.420 Yeah, you keep saying that, but it makes no sense because then when I question that, you say, no, anything that doesn't align with my preferences is immoral.

06:40:00.880 So if that's the case, who else but you could be the arbiter of what is moral?

06:40:05.280 Or, so moral is a descriptive word.

06:40:08.720 You, you, you, that's just gobbledygook, right?

06:40:13.140 Wow.

06:40:13.460 Andrew's a descriptive word. 0.99

06:40:15.120 Like, what the fuck does that mean? 0.97

06:40:16.300 It doesn't mean anything. 0.98

06:40:17.880 Robs don't decide morality. 0.99

06:40:19.840 It's a human thing.

06:40:20.820 Everything is subject to, if this does not align with my preferences, it's wrong.

06:40:25.900 Who else but you could be the arbiter of what is moral?

06:40:32.120 No one can be the arbiter of my morality.

06:40:36.640 It's every person has morality or maybe they don't lack a...

06:40:42.120 One person could be the arbiter of your morality.

06:40:45.900 You, right?

06:40:47.080 Yeah.

06:40:48.000 And if all things which disagree with your morality are immoral, then you would be the ultimate arbiter, right?

06:40:57.060 Yeah.

06:40:57.920 Of my own morality, yeah.

06:40:59.260 And you're the ultimate arbiter of morality.

06:41:01.780 My own morality.

06:41:03.120 I'm, I'm not the only...

06:41:04.160 Well, I'm sorry.

06:41:05.020 Who else's morality do you go off of?

06:41:07.700 Hold on.

06:41:08.240 Hold on.

06:41:08.780 So, I granted...

06:41:10.000 Hang on.

06:41:10.220 Do you go off of Fred's morality or do you go off of your morality?

06:41:14.160 I granted three minutes for this.

06:41:16.140 It's already been four minutes.

06:41:17.780 I need a final closing statement from both of you.

06:41:20.200 Yeah.

06:41:20.220 Do you go off of your morality or do you go off of Fred's morality?

06:41:24.600 I go off of mine and so my final... 0.99

06:41:26.840 So, if you go off of yours and anybody who disagrees with yours is wrong and immoral, who the fuck 0.83

06:41:33.180 else but you could be the arbiter of morality?

06:41:36.000 My morality is actually fluid and I can decide, I can decide, yeah, I can, I can, I can evaluate

06:41:42.960 things differently.

06:41:43.980 I'm morally fluid.

06:41:45.460 I can like milk one day and I can not like milk another day.

06:41:49.780 This not liking milk more?

06:41:51.360 You said you're able to donate it $100.

06:41:54.220 Apart from sex happening with only one person, it does not change the fact that you had sex 0.78

06:41:59.700 50 times.

06:42:01.400 And yet, women feel the need to lie about it. 1.00

06:42:04.500 And men too, expect you to lie to them.

06:42:07.040 Brian, I don't know.

06:42:10.100 I don't, I don't know.

06:42:10.780 I'm morally fluid now.

06:42:12.160 So, what do I know?

06:42:13.960 Thank you, Tamara, Tamara, Tamara, Tamara, Tamara, Tamara.

06:42:20.700 I want, I don't want a woman to lie to me. 1.00

06:42:23.360 I want to know, I want to take the red pill.

06:42:25.140 Like, tell me you have a body count of 100 so that I don't date you.

06:42:29.420 Oh, you're talking about the chat?

06:42:31.080 Yeah.

06:42:31.380 Is it something that you ask, like, actually?

06:42:33.480 Like, why do you care?

06:42:34.600 It's like the first question I ask.

06:42:35.920 Why, like...

06:42:36.880 Wait, why do I care?

06:42:37.960 I've never had a guy asking my body.

06:42:38.460 Yeah, I've never had a guy asking my body.

06:42:40.160 So, what's your question?

06:42:41.340 Like, why would you care?

06:42:42.880 Why would I care?

06:42:43.560 Yeah, it's the past, whatever.

06:42:45.340 Like, I feel like it is.

06:42:46.580 Okay, I'll ask you a question.

06:42:48.120 Would you date a man who previously slept with men?

06:42:54.960 No, but...

06:42:55.900 Wait, hold on.

06:42:57.840 Well, I got to use your logic here.

06:42:59.800 It's the past, right?

06:43:02.500 No, okay, but I'm talking about, like, the body count.

06:43:05.700 Like, I'm not talking about your sexuality.

06:43:09.000 Like, if you're... 0.67

06:43:09.660 Yeah, let's say he's bisexual. 0.74

06:43:12.540 Yeah, I would not date a bisexual for, like... 1.00

06:43:16.760 But what if...

06:43:17.560 Yeah, but he stopped being bi.

06:43:20.020 But you can't stop being bi. 0.65

06:43:21.660 Hilary Epstein donated $100.

06:43:24.640 So, you can't...

06:43:25.060 Desiree, how can you justify your promiscuity when the three men that are on your postings all have wedding rings?

06:43:31.980 Yikes.

06:43:32.280 Enabling immorality, Earl. 0.98

06:43:34.400 No clue how you can justify being a harlot. 0.67

06:43:37.440 That's not true.

06:43:38.100 Earl?

06:43:39.420 Hilary, thank you.

06:43:40.040 The only married guy I have on there was the guy that I was, like, in an open relationship with.

06:43:44.000 Thank you.

06:43:44.380 Appreciate it.

06:43:44.860 Other than that, it's just other...

06:43:46.220 Well, actually, I did make content with a married couple, so they would have rings. 0.98

06:43:50.600 But it was, like, a maje toit.

06:43:52.480 Thank you, Hilary.

06:43:53.500 Sorry.

06:43:53.560 One thing before we keep going.

06:43:54.940 I have to go.

06:43:55.500 My kids are waiting downstairs.

06:43:57.060 I can leave my notes.

06:43:58.300 Sure.

06:43:58.580 That's fine.

06:43:59.200 Yeah.

06:43:59.520 Wait, wait, wait.

06:44:00.300 I know you might think that it's immoral to leave your kids downstairs, but you should just be morally fluid.

06:44:05.780 Obviously.

06:44:07.540 My bad.

06:44:08.280 I should.

06:44:08.960 Clearly.

06:44:09.620 Well, thank you for coming.

06:44:10.980 Appreciate it.

06:44:11.380 It's to meet you, by the way.

06:44:12.280 Have a nice night.

06:44:12.880 It's nice to meet you.

06:44:13.740 Thank you.

06:44:14.180 Because, obviously, I'm the arbiter of all things moral.

06:44:17.960 Yeah.

06:44:18.240 Well, wake me up for that one.

06:44:20.020 There you go.

06:44:21.180 You can just leave it there.

06:44:22.360 That's fun.

06:44:23.880 Yeah.

06:44:24.200 Thank you for coming.

06:44:25.000 Have a good night.

06:44:25.620 Thank you for coming.

06:44:27.180 So, going back to your thing, what was it?

06:44:29.040 Why would you care?

06:44:29.800 It's the past.

06:44:30.660 Like, why would you care?

06:44:31.980 Like, what does it add to your thinking about a person?

06:44:38.720 When it comes to body count.

06:44:39.820 Yeah.

06:44:40.220 Like, you ask it.

06:44:41.540 And what, like, she said, I don't know, 30.

06:44:44.740 Or she said 50. 0.78

06:44:45.740 Or she said 5. 0.94

06:44:47.060 Like, what does it add to you?

06:44:49.640 Yeah.

06:44:49.920 It's pretty simple.

06:44:51.000 It's pretty simple.

06:44:51.840 I would be more attracted to her if it was lower. 0.99

06:44:54.620 But why?

06:44:54.640 And I'd be less attracted to her if it was higher.

06:44:56.740 Why?

06:44:57.600 Let me ask you a question.

06:44:58.620 So, it's so, like, for me, like, you go through a lot of phases in your life, I think.

06:45:05.080 Sure.

06:45:05.360 So, like, there's a phase where you're, like, more going around, looking up or whatever.

06:45:10.900 Yeah.

06:45:11.080 Or there's a phase where you don't want to do it.

06:45:13.280 Like, it's just normal.

06:45:16.640 So.

06:45:17.220 Human development.

06:45:18.480 Wait, hold on.

06:45:19.040 I mean, I don't care.

06:45:19.940 But so, oh, go ahead.

06:45:21.860 No.

06:45:22.100 Go ahead.

06:45:22.240 I don't know.

06:45:22.580 Like, I feel like it doesn't add anything to the relation.

06:45:27.740 So.

06:45:28.060 What do you mean it doesn't add anything to the relationship?

06:45:29.940 Like, if I, if I meet you and I know that thing, it doesn't add anything.

06:45:34.760 Like, it doesn't add something.

06:45:36.120 It doesn't change anything.

06:45:37.060 Yeah.

06:45:37.200 It doesn't change anything.

06:45:37.980 Yeah.

06:45:38.320 Or even, like.

06:45:40.460 I don't want to know.

06:45:41.660 I don't want to know.

06:45:42.380 Like, I don't care.

06:45:43.180 It's your thing.

06:45:44.060 Sure.

06:45:44.780 I mean.

06:45:45.260 Well, are you saying that you are who you are and, like, if you meet this individual,

06:45:51.800 whether they have a body count of five or of 50, it doesn't actually, I mean, they are

06:45:57.060 who they are.

06:45:57.620 It's not going to change who they are as a person.

06:45:59.920 Yeah.

06:45:59.940 Like, it's not an important thing.

06:46:02.080 I don't care.

06:46:02.620 For you.

06:46:03.080 Yeah.

06:46:03.320 Well, you don't care.

06:46:03.920 So, just to be clear.

06:46:04.960 Yeah.

06:46:05.140 Well, I'll explore that and we'll have the back and forth.

06:46:08.120 But, so, if a guy told you that he had slept with, well, let's get a split going on this,

06:46:14.260 if we can.

06:46:16.380 Sorry, guys.

06:46:17.080 One sec.

06:46:17.540 So, if a guy told you that he had slept with a thousand women before you, not a problem

06:46:25.200 for you?

06:46:25.980 No.

06:46:26.520 Okay.

06:46:26.740 Actually, I mean, a thousand.

06:46:28.740 I mean, you're, you're extremely, you're putting in the.

06:46:32.580 Sure.

06:46:33.220 I am.

06:46:34.720 Too much.

06:46:35.380 But you agree that there is a point.

06:46:36.700 I'm talking about the normal.

06:46:38.880 Oh, so, so normal.

06:46:40.280 No.

06:46:41.140 No.

06:46:41.340 Like, a thousand, it's.

06:46:44.240 Okay.

06:46:44.520 I mean, I'm not talking about the extreme numbers.

06:46:48.740 I'm talking about.

06:46:49.140 But if it doesn't matter at all, then wouldn't it also not matter if it's a hundred?

06:46:54.300 Is a hundred extreme?

06:46:55.440 A hundred is not.

06:46:55.740 But is a hundred extreme?

06:46:57.300 No, no.

06:46:58.340 It would have, like, I don't care.

06:46:59.820 Okay, so you're fine.

06:47:00.760 I don't want to know.

06:47:01.380 I don't want to know at all.

06:47:02.640 Why don't you want to know?

06:47:04.560 Because I.

06:47:05.420 Would it bother you?

06:47:06.100 Would it bother you?

06:47:06.860 No, because I think it's, like, a private thing.

06:47:08.960 It's your thing.

06:47:09.840 I, it doesn't, like, it's not conversation, like, an important conversation.

06:47:16.640 It's not something, add me something.

06:47:18.160 Well, you don't care about it.

06:47:19.300 Yeah, me.

06:47:20.140 I'm talking about.

06:47:20.540 But you do kind of care about it because when I give you the extreme example, you do kind

06:47:23.740 of care about it.

06:47:24.260 No.

06:47:25.020 So a thousand body count for the guy, don't care?

06:47:27.620 No, I don't care.

06:47:28.700 You wouldn't care.

06:47:29.440 No.

06:47:29.560 So here, let me frame it, frame the question differently.

06:47:32.700 You find out the guy you're interested in has slept with three other women that week.

06:47:36.580 Is that a problem?

06:47:37.280 Yeah, maybe.

06:47:43.900 But.

06:47:44.400 So, like, no, it depends.

06:47:45.840 Like, it depends.

06:47:46.960 It depends.

06:47:47.860 Of what I want.

06:47:49.260 What do you want?

06:47:49.680 Like, if I want to stay with him or if I want to just hook up with him.

06:47:54.200 So, like.

06:47:54.820 Well, honestly.

06:47:55.640 If I'm using him, if I'm using him, I don't even. 0.97

06:47:57.600 Because, I mean, even if you, I feel like in both, even if you just wanted to fuck once 0.97

06:48:01.980 or if you wanted a relationship. 0.98

06:48:04.100 Yeah, but you never know.

06:48:05.020 Both of these are kind of terrible because this man.

06:48:06.740 Yeah, but you never know.

06:48:07.500 Like, if you hook up with someone, you don't know what he's.

06:48:10.600 They might lie.

06:48:11.540 They might lie.

06:48:12.500 They might.

06:48:12.680 But they could also tell you the truth.

06:48:14.080 You don't talk about that.

06:48:15.000 But they could also tell you the truth.

06:48:17.020 Yeah.

06:48:17.440 Which is what you would hope for, right?

06:48:18.880 Yeah.

06:48:19.380 Right.

06:48:19.600 But so, let's assume, ignoring this component of, well, they could lie.

06:48:25.240 Let's assume that you know, right?

06:48:27.000 Let's assume that they're forthcoming and then tell you the truth.

06:48:30.900 Would you feel comfortable sleeping with a man?

06:48:33.440 No. 1.00

06:48:34.480 If he fucked a girl an hour before you? 1.00

06:48:37.120 Why not? 1.00

06:48:38.120 Is it gross?

06:48:39.220 Yeah.

06:48:39.640 Yeah.

06:48:39.880 So, that's how men feel.

06:48:41.060 That gross feeling.

06:48:42.200 That's how men feel in general about woman's promiscuity.

06:48:46.880 But so.

06:48:47.520 Because.

06:48:48.200 But if you do it, like.

06:48:49.520 Because I had, like, with my ex-sex boyfriend, we talked about that.

06:48:54.480 And his number was lower than mine.

06:48:59.100 And he got, like, all the relationship was about that thing.

06:49:04.260 Like, oh, no, you slept with that.

06:49:06.400 So, it mattered to him.

06:49:08.820 Yeah.

06:49:09.180 Yeah.

06:49:09.680 And it was like, that's just, like, an ego thing.

06:49:12.840 Because my number was higher than yours.

06:49:15.840 And, like, so, so basic.

06:49:18.000 Like, so, so, how do you say?

06:49:20.440 Like, masculine thing.

06:49:22.460 Like.

06:49:22.620 Oh, like.

06:49:23.280 It was like an ego.

06:49:24.480 Yeah.

06:49:25.100 Ego thing.

06:49:25.900 Machismo type thing.

06:49:26.900 Yeah.

06:49:26.920 Machismo.

06:49:27.320 He couldn't handle it.

06:49:28.040 So.

06:49:28.740 No, it's not about.

06:49:30.460 He couldn't handle it.

06:49:31.460 If you stay with someone, like, with a girl that. 0.97

06:49:35.880 Pale and well met.

06:49:37.800 Lol Paladin's donated $100 and two cents.

06:49:41.520 That is true.

06:49:42.140 Brian, you are forgetting that a man who has slept with three other women this same week makes him more desirable to women.

06:49:48.860 Go back to the bi analogy because that gives her the ick. 1.00

06:49:52.120 That is a fair point because there is a differential here between men and women. 1.00

06:49:55.140 So, like, a man who's capable of sleeping with a lot of women, even if you as a woman have, like, an adversity to promiscuity in men, like, you will at least acknowledge that men who are capable of sleeping with a lot of women, they typically are going to be more attractive.

06:50:12.660 Nah, I disagree in total.

06:50:14.820 But, yeah.

06:50:15.320 Whereas women, that doesn't make you more attractive, your ability to, like, sleep with a lot of dudes. 1.00

06:50:21.560 I don't think so.

06:50:22.920 Wait, you don't think so, as in you agree or you disagree?

06:50:26.820 No, I disagree.

06:50:27.800 Like, it's the same.

06:50:28.800 It's totally the same. 0.60

06:50:29.740 Wait, so do you think that it's just as easy for men and women to get sex? 0.96

06:50:34.660 No, it's so much easier for women. 1.00

06:50:36.900 For women to get sex. 1.00

06:50:38.200 Right. 0.99

06:50:38.680 So then it's more impressive.

06:50:39.920 Because they decide.

06:50:41.120 Yeah, women are the designers. 1.00

06:50:43.220 Yeah.

06:50:44.180 Most of the time.

06:50:45.460 Most of the time, yeah.

06:50:46.200 Not always, but, like.

06:50:46.980 Yeah.

06:50:47.200 But I don't think that you get some points because you hook up with.

06:50:53.120 Well, the difference is, is, like, for example, so let's say if guys were looking at an attractive girl, but she, they knew that she had just slept with, like, three men.

06:51:06.680 Like, most men are going to be really turned off by that.

06:51:11.760 Yeah, me too.

06:51:13.200 Sure, but it's, there's a bit of a difference here.

06:51:16.500 So.

06:51:16.760 Why?

06:51:17.640 I think women care far less than men do when it comes to body count. 1.00

06:51:21.640 And you said you don't care, but you dated a guy who did care.

06:51:24.840 But I don't think that's good.

06:51:27.920 I don't think that's normal.

06:51:29.440 But you're.

06:51:29.700 You should not be like this.

06:51:30.860 What should not be like this?

06:51:32.080 It should not be like.

06:51:32.800 You should not care?

06:51:33.360 No, it should be, like, something that it's not on, like, different levels when you talk, when you say a man.

06:51:40.380 Oh, I mean, I'm not saying that male promiscuity is good.

06:51:43.240 I'm just saying it's different.

06:51:44.960 Like, women don't seem to care that much about it. 1.00

06:51:49.460 Some do.

06:51:50.560 I care.

06:51:51.080 Yeah, some do, and I'm.

06:51:52.700 Sorry, you don't care?

06:51:53.740 I care.

06:51:55.080 You care.

06:51:55.840 Okay.

06:51:56.420 I think it depends because I met, I met guys that doesn't care, that don't care.

06:52:01.160 Yeah, some guys don't care.

06:52:02.020 I've literally never been asked.

06:52:03.540 Truthfully, though, I mean, if a guy does care, and he's asking you about it.

06:52:08.040 It's for the ego.

06:52:09.340 No, well, I mean.

06:52:10.260 Totally, totally for the ego.

06:52:11.340 Hold on, just let me finish.

06:52:12.640 So, the point I was trying to make here is that if a guy does ask you this question, it's actually kind of a green flag because he's vetting you for long-term commitment. 0.99

06:52:21.080 So, if a guy just wants to fuck you, if a guy just wants to fuck you, most guys won't care. 0.99

06:52:24.720 They'll just, like, whatever. 1.00

06:52:25.580 I've been in a relationship without this question.

06:52:28.700 Okay, sure.

06:52:29.420 I've never known it to matter to a relationship.

06:52:30.880 That's not what I'm arguing.

06:52:31.700 So, I do. 1.00

06:52:34.260 Shit, I lost it. 0.99

06:52:37.140 You said, getting back to your original point, though, you said the past doesn't matter. 0.99

06:52:41.160 So, I do want to kind of get back to this.

06:52:43.440 Like, why would you not date a guy who experimented with men?

06:52:48.440 Let's say he's.

06:52:49.000 I'm talking, no, you're misunderstanding.

06:52:51.620 No, but you said the past doesn't matter.

06:52:52.720 Yeah, the past doesn't matter.

06:52:54.400 Yeah, I'm testing your logic.

06:52:55.820 Talking about how many girls you hook up with.

06:52:59.500 Not talking about everything.

06:53:00.880 Because if it's everything, the past doesn't matter.

06:53:03.880 You can murder someone.

06:53:04.920 No, it doesn't matter. 0.98

06:53:05.820 Obviously, it doesn't matter.

06:53:06.640 But I'm trying to give you, so the reason I'm bringing up the, like, bisexual example is the way you might feel about, like, a guy who previously slept with men and, like, how it makes you feel.

06:53:20.420 That's the way men feel when it comes to female promiscuity. 1.00

06:53:23.320 I don't think that represents every man, though, because there's plenty of men that don't.

06:53:26.460 Yeah, there's all kinds of guys.

06:53:29.760 I'm talking in general.

06:53:31.120 Well, anyway, I honestly don't think in general guys care.

06:53:33.980 I really don't.

06:53:34.780 I think you have, like, a niched opinion and you have followers that follow your opinion, but there's a whole other world out there.

06:53:40.260 No, I'm prepared to say the majority of men care. 1.00

06:53:43.860 There's enough men who don't care because they're desperate for pussy. 1.00

06:53:49.240 No, I think it's the contrary. 0.99

06:53:52.160 Like, the people with a little bit of insecurities, they ask you how many guys, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

06:53:58.780 Why is it insecure? 0.99

06:54:00.020 It's insecure because it's like, oh, no, man, I'm going with a slut. 1.00

06:54:03.000 I'm going with that, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

06:54:04.580 If you like someone, like.

06:54:06.740 Yeah, if you like somebody, you should.

06:54:08.060 If you're mature enough to know that you had a life before with some guys.

06:54:12.900 Do you think you, if you had a man, you'd want him to be a mature man, right?

06:54:20.280 Yeah.

06:54:21.160 Do you think that mature people set boundaries?

06:54:25.040 Yeah.

06:54:26.740 And so do you think responsible people set boundaries?

06:54:31.180 Yeah.

06:54:31.700 So if a responsible and mature man sets a boundary, and the boundary is he doesn't want a woman 1.00

06:54:38.120 who has more than X amount of sex partners, how could he be insecure?

06:54:42.200 No, the story of him.

06:54:43.880 Well, how could that be insecurity if that's what your expectation is, is that he has boundaries?

06:54:49.280 No, I was such a couple of decades ago perspective, to be honest.

06:54:59.580 Yeah.

06:54:59.920 I mean, I think to me, I've had men ask me more like how many dads of my kids I have and

06:55:06.040 things like that.

06:55:06.920 To me, the modern man cares more about like, what baggage do you have in your life that's

06:55:12.680 going to affect me?

06:55:13.640 And the more men you've slept with, the more baggage you tend to have.

06:55:16.340 Not necessarily, because, I mean, you don't necessarily take baggage with you from every

06:55:21.760 experience.

06:55:22.560 You have a lot of experiences that are very positive, it was fun, it was what it was.

06:55:26.080 Desiree, how could it be insecure, though, to set boundaries?

06:55:29.160 I never said that.

06:55:30.140 I wasn't saying that at all.

06:55:32.000 I was simply making the point that not every man cares.

06:55:34.400 Well, how would that be insecure?

06:55:36.780 I don't understand.

06:55:37.220 You said it's insecure for a man.

06:55:38.880 I don't think that's a boundary.

06:55:39.260 If you don't want to stay with someone, I mean.

06:55:43.580 It's a standard.

06:55:44.380 I think, I don't feel like it's a standard.

06:55:47.780 Yeah, but absolutely.

06:55:48.820 Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

06:55:49.780 Like, that's what I think.

06:55:51.880 Like, I don't think.

06:55:52.100 How is it not a standard?

06:55:53.780 I, here's my standard.

06:55:55.520 I don't want to date a woman who's promiscuous or who has a promiscuous past. 0.99

06:55:59.440 But no, but why promiscuous?

06:56:01.180 Wait, okay.

06:56:02.380 What is, promiscuous.

06:56:04.020 And isn't there a grace for like. 0.73

06:56:04.480 Promiscuous, sleeps with a lot of people.

06:56:06.220 If she has a high body count. 0.99

06:56:07.380 Is it for how she was maybe raised in a different culture than you?

06:56:10.700 Oh, maybe.

06:56:11.240 How would she know not to sleep with people?

06:56:13.000 I don't need to give anybody grace.

06:56:15.340 Women reject men all the time for a wide variety of reasons. 0.99

06:56:19.740 But I'm just saying, not every man is like you.

06:56:21.700 A lot of men take the context of a woman's life into consideration.

06:56:24.940 You don't want to date a guy because of his height, because of his money, because of X, Y, Z.

06:56:29.900 But all of a sudden, when men say, I don't want to date a woman because of this.

06:56:33.940 That's fair.

06:56:34.760 I'm not a person like that, but there are some people like that.

06:56:37.140 Oh, it's insecure.

06:56:38.620 It's insecure.

06:56:39.040 Can I ask you something?

06:56:39.940 It's controlling.

06:56:40.920 It's blah, blah, blah.

06:56:41.460 How high is your body count?

06:56:43.160 Like, what's not like.

06:56:45.460 I don't know.

06:56:45.840 Tell me yours.

06:56:47.300 No.

06:56:47.860 Tell me.

06:56:48.520 Tell me yours.

06:56:48.840 For you, what's too much?

06:56:50.240 Tell me yours.

06:56:51.160 Tell me yours.

06:56:51.600 Tell me yours.

06:56:52.740 No.

06:56:54.240 Well, wait.

06:56:54.940 I didn't say that, but tell me, like.

06:56:56.340 Wait, wait, wait.

06:56:57.100 Hang on.

06:56:58.000 Wait a second.

06:56:59.120 Wait a second.

06:56:59.880 Just a response.

06:57:00.460 Why won't you tell us?

06:57:01.480 Are you insecure?

06:57:02.660 Are you insecure?

06:57:03.040 No.

06:57:03.440 It's private.

06:57:03.580 About your body count?

06:57:04.380 It's private.

06:57:04.920 I don't want to say that.

06:57:05.580 I thought body count doesn't matter, though.

06:57:07.220 Hang on.

06:57:07.740 It sounds like you're being insecure.

06:57:10.520 No.

06:57:11.020 You're saying.

06:57:12.080 Can you answer me?

06:57:13.320 Can you answer me?

06:57:14.320 Answer me?

06:57:15.040 Why aren't you being insecure right now?

06:57:16.920 It sounds like insecurity.

06:57:18.340 What's too high?

06:57:19.000 Like, it's too high for you.

06:57:20.320 Depends on the age, right?

06:57:21.660 Depends on the age.

06:57:22.640 But look, honestly, once you start getting.

06:57:24.940 So is it, like, either than yours?

06:57:29.140 Or is it, like.

06:57:29.760 So, okay.

06:57:30.420 I would say over 10.

06:57:32.960 Okay.

06:57:33.580 Is getting high.

06:57:35.580 It's not necessarily a deal breaker.

06:57:37.500 Okay.

06:57:38.280 But the strong preference for lower.

06:57:40.700 So I would prioritize trying to date a woman with a lower body count. 1.00

06:57:43.640 Okay.

06:57:44.520 Over 10, not necessarily a deal breaker.

06:57:47.120 Over 20, that's, like, major red flag territory. 0.80

06:57:50.500 I would say over 30 is certainly a deal breaker.

06:57:53.560 But, I mean, over 20, probably a deal breaker.

06:57:56.760 Is it based on yours or is it based, like, in general?

06:58:01.100 What do you mean?

06:58:02.180 Like, is it based on your body count or is it?

06:58:07.480 No, not at all.

06:58:08.220 Okay.

06:58:08.640 In general.

06:58:08.840 Not at all.

06:58:09.560 Okay.

06:58:09.960 Now, I'm just curious.

06:58:10.840 I actually don't think there, if a man has a high body count, I don't think there's actually

06:58:15.380 anything wrong with him wanting a woman with a low body count or even a virgin.

06:58:19.740 Even if they have, like, a big body count.

06:58:22.500 Even if the guy has a big body count, no problem at all with him realizing.

06:58:26.080 But, like, in, like, the country, I would say, like, the reverse.

06:58:30.220 What do you mean?

06:58:31.060 Yeah.

06:58:31.660 Well, here I can, yeah, I can actually explain this concept to you, right?

06:58:36.120 So, do you like men who are taller than you?

06:58:39.740 Yeah.

06:58:40.800 Okay.

06:58:41.260 Do you think that men generally like women who are shorter than them?

06:58:44.860 Yeah.

06:58:45.860 Okay.

06:58:46.260 Okay.

06:58:46.680 Well, I don't understand why you accept that double standard.

06:58:49.300 But, like, it's not the same.

06:58:57.560 Yeah, that's right.

06:58:58.220 It's not the same.

06:59:00.620 Okay.

06:59:00.840 So, the question becomes...

06:59:03.000 So, you say that a girl doesn't... 1.00

06:59:04.720 Yeah.

06:59:05.040 If a man is tall and he prefers a short woman, a woman is short and prefers a tall man, right? 0.99

06:59:11.640 Okay.

06:59:12.040 Well, I don't understand.

06:59:13.600 They have totally different preferences here, but that's somehow okay.

06:59:17.920 But, if a man has a large body count, but prefers a woman with a lower body count, why is that suddenly wrong?

06:59:26.400 No, no.

06:59:26.740 I didn't say that it's wrong.

06:59:28.380 I didn't say it's wrong.

06:59:29.640 I said that I, like, there are people that don't care, people that care, and I don't think it's that important for me.

06:59:38.180 I'm always talking for me.

06:59:39.960 So, like...

06:59:43.500 Yeah.

06:59:43.820 Well, I'm just saying...

06:59:45.400 No, keep going.

06:59:47.040 If you ask Brian, if you ask Brian, you seem like you were skeptical.

06:59:53.420 You were like, hey, wait a second.

06:59:55.020 Why is it okay for you...

06:59:56.600 Hang on, hang on.

06:59:57.600 Why is it okay for you to have...

06:59:59.600 Like, let's say Brian slept with 500 women, right?

07:00:02.580 He hasn't, but let's just say he had.

07:00:04.340 Wait, hold on.

07:00:06.580 Okay, okay.

07:00:07.480 Well, okay.

07:00:08.140 6,000 women.

07:00:09.100 Okay.

07:00:09.560 Let's say he slept with 6,000 women.

07:00:11.560 Yeah.

07:00:12.080 Thank you.

07:00:12.380 And he wanted a woman who had slept with no women.

07:00:15.820 Thank you.

07:00:16.200 Why is that actually a problem?

07:00:18.200 No, it's not a problem, but I think it's a little bit like...

07:00:23.600 I don't know the word in English.

07:00:26.120 I'm sorry, but... 0.98

07:00:26.740 Hypocrite? 0.99

07:00:27.540 Yeah. 1.00

07:00:28.560 Hypocrite? 1.00

07:00:29.040 Yeah. 0.99

07:00:29.300 Like a double standard.

07:00:30.280 Yeah, because, like...

07:00:31.620 I think it's hypocritical for you to want to date a taller man.

07:00:35.560 No.

07:00:36.160 What? 0.60

07:00:37.260 Then it's hypocritical for you to want to date someone taller than you.

07:00:40.900 No, that's totally different.

07:00:42.500 Totally different.

07:00:43.660 Why is it different?

07:00:44.940 It's different.

07:00:45.360 Why is it different?

07:00:46.320 It's different.

07:00:47.240 Come on.

07:00:47.600 You can say it's the same.

07:00:48.820 It's different.

07:00:49.460 Why?

07:00:49.680 You can say it's the same.

07:00:51.080 No, come on. 0.85

07:00:51.620 So let me ask you this question, right?

07:00:53.200 So in order for you to want to be with someone, do you need to be exactly the same?

07:01:00.580 No.

07:01:00.700 But I'm saying that if you sleep with 500 girls or whatever, and you want the one that 0.94

07:01:07.780 doesn't...

07:01:08.340 Yeah.

07:01:08.740 Yeah.

07:01:09.020 I think it's a little too much.

07:01:10.720 Yeah.

07:01:11.220 Come on.

07:01:11.560 No, I think it's totally fine.

07:01:13.100 I think it's too much.

07:01:13.840 I think it's totally fine.

07:01:14.420 No.

07:01:14.440 It's a little bit, like...

07:01:15.440 Totally fine.

07:01:16.320 Well, here's why, right?

07:01:17.300 You and all the Muslims or what's the guys that...

07:01:20.600 All right.

07:01:20.780 Isn't there, like, a religion that they have all their lives?

07:01:23.220 You know when you say, like, I treat you well, I want you to treat me well.

07:01:27.280 Here, let her speak. 0.98

07:01:28.200 If you want, like, I treat you well in a relationship, so I want you to treat me well, too.

07:01:35.520 So, like, you know that, I don't know, we say this thing, like, you do some...

07:01:41.400 You act like you want to be treated.

07:01:46.060 Do you say it like that?

07:01:48.200 I mean, I think in these lines, like, in this phrase, so...

07:01:54.040 But then it's up to you, like, you can keep, like, pretending whatever.

07:01:57.860 Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

07:02:00.120 You're saying you should treat people how you want to be treated, right?

07:02:03.560 Yeah.

07:02:04.040 Kind of the golden rule, right?

07:02:06.360 The golden rule.

07:02:08.560 Yeah, but here's the thing.

07:02:12.200 Would you agree with me that more women will allow themselves to be anally penetrated than men?

07:02:19.600 What?

07:02:23.700 Out of nowhere, bro.

07:02:25.760 Grant that that's true?

07:02:27.500 Yeah.

07:02:28.720 I guess.

07:02:29.200 That's why I speak to angels.

07:02:30.200 Right.

07:02:31.260 So, here's the thing.

07:02:32.520 It's crazy.

07:02:32.960 Where I'm going with this, what I'm trying to kind of get you to intersect with is, if

07:02:39.220 you were with a man who wanted to do that with you, but did not want you to do that with 0.95

07:02:44.120 him, is he being a hypocrite? 0.96

07:02:48.400 Here we're finding, like, the only thing that one... 0.99

07:02:51.800 I got some.

07:02:52.640 Just answer me.

07:02:53.720 Just answer me.

07:02:54.420 Yeah. 0.99

07:02:54.600 Is he being a hypocrite? 0.99

07:02:55.440 Yeah, you're right. 0.99

07:02:56.060 You're right on this.

07:02:57.160 You're right.

07:02:57.940 It's fine.

07:02:58.180 I have some.

07:02:58.640 I have the right to say no, but you're not supposed to.

07:03:04.540 Here.

07:03:04.840 I got a couple.

07:03:05.720 I have a couple.

07:03:06.640 So, okay.

07:03:07.840 Do you think, for example, is a woman wrong if she's poor, but she's attracted to rich men? 0.53

07:03:15.860 Is she wrong?

07:03:18.920 No, but it should be, like, the same on the other side.

07:03:21.840 What do you mean?

07:03:22.280 Like, if a girl that's poor, she's attracted from a rich guy or a poor guy, it's attracted

07:03:31.540 to, like, a rich girl, it's the same.

07:03:35.260 Like, no?

07:03:38.260 I don't know.

07:03:39.040 Maybe it is.

07:03:39.800 But is it wrong?

07:03:41.460 No, it's not wrong.

07:03:43.040 But she does not possess the trait in which she desires in a partner.

07:03:48.340 So, she doesn't... 0.96

07:03:49.140 You can, like, I think that you can do whatever you want.

07:03:52.160 Like, you can desire a girl that doesn't hook up with anyone, like a virgin, but...

07:03:55.920 Okay, you're saying wrong for man with high body count to want a virgin, right?

07:04:00.440 That's what you're saying.

07:04:01.260 Yeah, it's like, it's not wrong. 0.97

07:04:03.400 It's hypocritical. 1.00

07:04:06.760 Hypocritical. 1.00

07:04:08.460 Hypocritical.

07:04:10.000 Okay. 0.65

07:04:10.520 Well, you object to it. 0.96

07:04:11.640 It's hypocritical. 0.57

07:04:12.820 But, so, to have the back and forth. 0.83

07:04:17.340 And... 0.97

07:04:17.780 So, okay, then it's hypocritical for a poor woman to be attracted... 1.00

07:04:22.540 Not to be, to want, like... 0.76

07:04:24.620 To want.

07:04:25.020 Like, a fact, like, to want a virgin, yes. 0.52

07:04:27.000 I think so.

07:04:27.840 Okay, so, but it's not hypocritical for men who have 500 body counts to be attracted to

07:04:35.040 virgin women.

07:04:36.260 Yeah, it is. 1.00

07:04:37.320 It's hypocritical. 0.80

07:04:38.180 To be attracted. 0.85

07:04:39.140 No, to be attracted?

07:04:40.380 No.

07:04:40.680 But to want.

07:04:41.800 Okay, so we'll use the term want.

07:04:43.520 You are attracted to...

07:04:45.840 You can't change that, right?

07:04:47.040 You can, yeah.

07:04:47.640 You can choose, actually.

07:04:49.200 So, do people typically want what they're attracted to?

07:04:52.840 No, not always.

07:04:53.960 Not always.

07:04:54.840 No.

07:04:55.780 No, you can't.

07:04:56.500 Okay, well, I'll just use...

07:04:57.840 Maybe just me, but I don't choose who, like, I got, like, the click.

07:05:04.060 I don't know how to say it.

07:05:05.420 So, like, if I fell in love with someone, it's not because he has everything that I want.

07:05:09.360 I'm not going to even use the term attracted then.

07:05:12.460 I'm going to use the term want, right?

07:05:15.160 So, okay, men who have a high body count, they want a woman with a low body count or 0.99

07:05:19.940 who are virgin.

07:05:20.920 So, a woman who's poor wants... 1.00

07:05:23.420 And then if you...

07:05:24.320 Hold on, just let me finish.

07:05:25.300 Yeah, sorry.

07:05:25.660 Who wants a rich man? 1.00

07:05:27.680 Is that wrong?

07:05:31.960 I'm not saying it's wrong.

07:05:33.500 I'm saying that it's... 0.97

07:05:34.260 So, it's hypocritical. 0.95

07:05:35.260 Okay, so it's hypocritical. 0.98

07:05:35.960 So, then it's hypocritical for women who are poor to want to date rich men. 0.97

07:05:41.320 Is it hypocritical?

07:05:42.600 If she wants to date only this kind of man, yes, I think so. 0.66

07:05:48.080 Okay.

07:05:48.600 It is.

07:05:48.920 Well, I feel like Brian didn't reveal his ultimate argument, but I remember all of Brian's

07:05:56.060 arguments, and this one's a good one, so I'm going to use it real quick.

07:05:58.680 And I just want to ask you a question.

07:06:02.220 Would you date a man ever in your life who had been with two women at once?

07:06:09.900 Yeah.

07:06:10.760 Would you date a man in your life who had been with multiple men?

07:06:17.680 No. 1.00

07:06:18.680 What kind of fucking hypocrite are you? 1.00

07:06:20.900 What kind of fucking hypocrite, you hypocrite, unbelievable hypocrisy, wait a second, wait 1.00

07:06:29.040 a second. 1.00

07:06:30.720 But why?

07:06:31.700 I don't want to date with someone that...

07:06:34.700 Wait, wait, wait. 0.99

07:06:35.960 Doesn't hypocrite mean that you hold two different standards, one for you? 0.99

07:06:40.220 But she's not bisexual. 1.00

07:06:40.720 Hang on, hang on. 1.00

07:06:41.320 A hypocrite is you hold a standard for you, right? 0.99

07:06:46.040 Or you hold a separate standard for yourself that you hold for other people. 0.99

07:06:49.460 So in this particular case, right, if it's a same-sex relationship, why is that okay 0.99

07:06:55.060 for you, but not for him?

07:06:56.760 No, no, no.

07:06:57.420 It is.

07:06:58.140 No, no.

07:06:58.820 I thought that you said, like, to date a guy that was with multiple guys.

07:07:05.400 Yeah, he's with multiple guys.

07:07:09.220 Yeah, no, but because I'm straight, and I want to date someone straight.

07:07:12.580 Wait, wait.

07:07:13.280 If he's with multiple women, why is that a problem?

07:07:17.180 Or not a problem?

07:07:17.760 No, it's not a problem.

07:07:18.200 Because I want to date someone straight.

07:07:22.960 Well, wait.

07:07:23.520 He's still...

07:07:24.200 Wait, wait, wait.

07:07:25.260 I don't understand.

07:07:26.740 Would you ever engage in same-sex activity with a guy?

07:07:32.980 What?

07:07:33.600 Sorry.

07:07:34.040 What?

07:07:34.620 Would you ever engage in a threesome with a guy where you were with another chick for 0.99

07:07:40.200 a guy?

07:07:40.840 Yeah.

07:07:41.820 You would not accept that from a guy.

07:07:44.100 But wait, you would not accept that from a guy.

07:07:46.440 Yeah, yeah.

07:07:47.440 Yeah. 0.95

07:07:48.120 If you won't date a girl because she's fat, it's body shaming. 1.00

07:07:52.440 Yeah. 0.99

07:07:52.700 This woman have no problem calling a guy working on fries at McDonald's a loser. 1.00

07:07:57.600 Pure feminine chaos. 1.00

07:07:59.820 Yeah, thank you.

07:08:00.560 So what I'm saying is just this.

07:08:03.940 If you would be willing to engage with a woman, you would be. 0.99

07:08:08.840 But you're not willing to engage with a man who's been with a man, how are you not a hypocrite? 0.99

07:08:15.840 How is that not hypocritical? 0.99

07:08:16.480 Are you talking about like a tree, a treason? 0.85

07:08:20.980 Yeah.

07:08:21.520 Yeah.

07:08:22.000 Treason?

07:08:22.660 Do you say that?

07:08:23.900 Treason?

07:08:24.360 Yeah, a threesome.

07:08:25.220 A threesome.

07:08:25.840 Oh, treason.

07:08:26.860 Treason.

07:08:27.360 Treason.

07:08:27.640 Well, whatever.

07:08:28.580 Yeah, I would accept him to be with a guy.

07:08:31.260 Treason.

07:08:31.620 I don't do it.

07:08:32.760 But not if he's straight.

07:08:35.320 Wait, not a treason.

07:08:35.640 You know what I mean? 0.99

07:08:36.680 So you would be with a man who's fucked other men? 0.99

07:08:40.360 I would. 1.00

07:08:40.780 I think we're going out of that.

07:08:43.140 No, we're not going all over the place. 0.99

07:08:44.660 You would be with a man who's fucked other men? 1.00

07:08:46.940 No. 1.00

07:08:48.240 No, but if you fucked other women, would you expect a man to be with you? 1.00

07:08:53.940 No. 1.00

07:08:55.320 No?

07:08:56.020 No.

07:08:56.780 No.

07:08:57.260 It depends on him.

07:08:59.260 Like if he's fine with the thing.

07:09:01.440 Wait, have you been with women?

07:09:02.560 No.

07:09:03.020 Oh, okay.

07:09:04.280 Like if he's fine with the thing.

07:09:06.180 Would you ever be with a woman? 0.64

07:09:08.240 Hang on.

07:09:08.520 Would you ever be with a woman? 0.64

07:09:10.960 No.

07:09:12.220 No.

07:09:12.500 I'm just too straight.

07:09:13.340 No woman in the whole world. 0.99

07:09:14.820 Like if you could pick any woman. 0.98

07:09:16.240 I'm sorry.

07:09:16.900 Wait, let's go.

07:09:17.760 We should.

07:09:18.700 Let's go around the table.

07:09:20.240 What's everybody's body count starting with Desiree?

07:09:22.140 I would say about like eight to ten guys. 1.00

07:09:28.280 You're a fucking liar. 1.00

07:09:31.920 Well, my dad. 1.00

07:09:34.220 No fucking way. 1.00

07:09:36.740 My dad raised me to be a prostitute. 1.00

07:09:39.400 Oh, man. 0.98

07:09:40.080 So I was with a lot of people.

07:09:42.000 I was with about probably 20 people.

07:09:44.080 That wasn't necessarily my choice.

07:09:45.700 But it was like.

07:09:46.980 Your dad.

07:09:48.260 That was.

07:09:48.980 Yeah. 0.95

07:09:49.300 My dad raised me to be a sex worker.

07:09:50.520 So your non-accountability body count is eight.

07:09:55.980 I would say eight to ten.

07:09:57.080 Eight to ten guys.

07:09:58.420 That was like authentically my choice.

07:10:00.900 Yeah.

07:10:01.080 I was married for a long time. 1.00

07:10:03.280 You're a fucking liar. 1.00

07:10:04.680 You're a fucking liar. 1.00

07:10:05.840 And then I remember I was that whole stent of religious after my childhood trauma. 1.00

07:10:10.140 Haven't you had sex with like three men on your OF? 0.99

07:10:13.520 Yeah. 0.99

07:10:13.680 That's three men.

07:10:14.760 I was in a long-term relationship with one.

07:10:16.740 Well, the math is not math in here.

07:10:18.360 Hold on.

07:10:19.240 Multiply it by three and that's the real number.

07:10:21.100 Why isn't the math working?

07:10:22.640 What do I count?

07:10:22.940 It's just like.

07:10:23.440 I was married for ten years.

07:10:25.880 I was with the same guy for about ten years.

07:10:28.660 Before that, I did like a long stent of celibacy when I was super religious.

07:10:33.720 And I had kind of a.

07:10:34.940 Super religious? 0.95

07:10:36.120 Well, I lost my virginity very young with my dad's.

07:10:39.840 Okay.

07:10:40.740 Vivian, what about you?

07:10:42.540 Wait.

07:10:42.880 Don't get it.

07:10:43.420 You got to stay for this segment.

07:10:44.820 Stay for the segment.

07:10:45.540 I'm not going to answer it.

07:10:46.360 Stay for the segment.

07:10:47.340 I'm not going to answer it.

07:10:48.480 No, no.

07:10:51.420 Como se dice?

07:10:52.120 Ah, you're good.

07:10:53.500 Como se dice?

07:10:54.700 Body count in italiano.

07:10:58.520 Papa Italiano.

07:10:59.720 Okay.

07:11:00.580 Vivian, body count. 0.95

07:11:02.840 Five. 1.00

07:11:04.120 Damn, bro. 1.00

07:11:04.860 It was three last time? 1.00

07:11:07.640 She had.

07:11:08.660 Growing up.

07:11:09.420 Multiply it by three.

07:11:10.440 That's the real number.

07:11:11.240 Vivian.

07:11:11.660 Power level increasing, Brian.

07:11:14.000 Power level increasing.

07:11:15.180 My aura. 1.00

07:11:15.400 Fucking thing. 1.00

07:11:16.100 You're aura. 1.00

07:11:18.680 All right.

07:11:19.280 What about you, Jade?

07:11:20.640 Two.

07:11:21.500 Jade?

07:11:22.600 What?

07:11:23.100 Two.

07:11:23.880 Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.

07:11:25.840 What is this?

07:11:26.040 No.

07:11:26.680 What is this?

07:11:27.540 What is this?

07:11:28.200 Is this a gaming thing?

07:11:29.640 Is this a VR?

07:11:30.220 It's a sounder.

07:11:30.800 Okay, well, let me ask you, Jade, a quick follow-up.

07:11:34.680 I gave you my lord.

07:11:36.100 Yeah.

07:11:37.080 Let us assume for a second that it wasn't just two, right?

07:11:42.080 Okay.

07:11:42.500 If it wasn't, if it wasn't, would you tell us?

07:11:46.300 Yeah.

07:11:47.620 You wouldn't lie?

07:11:48.760 No.

07:11:49.120 No matter what, you wouldn't, right?

07:11:52.340 No.

07:11:53.300 Okay.

07:11:54.180 All right.

07:11:56.580 Okay.

07:11:56.900 I gave you my back story.

07:11:58.880 I'm not going to say that.

07:12:00.500 Bernadette.

07:12:01.040 I don't even know where I am.

07:12:02.380 I arrived here in the United States since three days.

07:12:05.220 I don't even know, like, where is going this, where I'm going, like, on...

07:12:10.240 Body count?

07:12:11.280 Not going to say that.

07:12:12.200 How about a range?

07:12:13.620 Will you do a range?

07:12:14.940 Okay.

07:12:15.720 More than 10?

07:12:16.700 More than 10?

07:12:17.300 I say, yeah.

07:12:18.080 More than 10.

07:12:18.760 More than 20?

07:12:20.080 No.

07:12:21.180 More than 15?

07:12:21.660 I'm not going to say anything.

07:12:22.960 I'm not going to say anything.

07:12:23.460 Wait, more than 15?

07:12:24.960 I'm not going to say anything.

07:12:27.700 I already started now.

07:12:35.660 Morgan, it's your turn. 0.97

07:12:36.700 Hey, Brian, that scanner's going fucking crazy, bro. 0.96

07:12:42.260 That scanner's going crazy. 0.98

07:12:44.860 Morgan?

07:12:45.580 I've said it.

07:12:46.960 Oh, is it x-ray vision?

07:12:48.460 Is it one?

07:12:49.020 Yeah.

07:12:50.620 Like, I think 14.

07:12:52.520 14?

07:12:54.460 Two.

07:12:56.800 What's yours?

07:12:57.620 Go ahead, Brian.

07:12:58.540 Hey, Brian, you want to make it one more?

07:13:08.860 My scouter is detecting that some of you are not being forthcoming on the body count question.

07:13:14.420 Why do you guys always think we're lying? 0.99

07:13:15.760 And this scouter, that shit, like, this is some fucking next science, technology. 1.00

07:13:21.880 That is Saiyan technology. 1.00

07:13:24.380 And they have some of the most brilliant scientists in the world, including Kakarot's father, is what I'm told.

07:13:31.540 Bardock.

07:13:32.800 Bardock.

07:13:34.660 I remember Bardock.

07:13:37.320 He tried to fight Frieza.

07:13:40.300 Didn't go so well.

07:13:41.560 Saved planet Vegeta.

07:13:43.160 Anyways.

07:13:44.920 Look, you know, look, I'm not going to press it, but I think some of you guys are not being, you know, totally honest.

07:13:53.320 Oh, really quick.

07:13:54.480 Okay.

07:13:54.920 I'll give you, like, a list of 10 examples where it's like women want things in men that they don't possess, right? 0.96

07:14:01.760 They want traditional men, but they're not traditional.

07:14:04.240 They want charismatic men, yet they are not charismatic.

07:14:07.080 They want tall men, but they're not tall.

07:14:08.860 They want chivalry, but they're not chivalrous.

07:14:11.220 They want exciting men, but they're not exciting.

07:14:13.240 They want strong men, but they're not strong.

07:14:14.960 Hold on, hold on.

07:14:15.940 They want dominant men, but they're not dominant.

07:14:18.140 They want men to take initiative, but they don't take initiative.

07:14:20.880 They want men to chase them, but they don't chase. 1.00

07:14:23.100 They want men to ask them on dates and pay for them, but they don't do the same. 1.00

07:14:26.600 They want confident men, but they're not confident themselves.

07:14:30.520 Many shy women want men who are not shy. 0.61

07:14:33.180 Single mothers who don't want to date single fathers. 0.97

07:14:36.860 It seems like women want to ignore all the double standards and unfairness that benefit them. 1.00

07:14:44.080 But when there's a double standard or unfairness that benefits men, really only a very small percentage of men.

07:14:50.600 Because most men don't have access to hookup culture. 0.99

07:14:55.040 It's just kind of interesting.

07:14:57.720 What kind of men do you mean?

07:14:58.780 Oh, funny.

07:14:59.660 Women want... 1.00

07:15:00.220 Hold on.

07:15:00.960 This is the best one.

07:15:01.860 No, wait.

07:15:03.560 Come on.

07:15:04.560 Who are you describing?

07:15:05.760 Who are you describing?

07:15:06.560 Who am I describing?

07:15:07.460 Who?

07:15:08.000 I don't know.

07:15:08.700 I'm not like that.

07:15:09.840 Do you want a guy who's funny?

07:15:11.160 You want a funny guy?

07:15:11.860 I'm so funny.

07:15:12.720 I'd say you are funny.

07:15:14.020 I think a lot of women... 1.00

07:15:15.100 I want a guy...

07:15:16.720 You're talking to me?

07:15:18.120 You think I'm funny?

07:15:19.220 No, but like something that you read, like...

07:15:22.440 What do I read?

07:15:23.460 I want a guy to take the...

07:15:26.360 Like, take me out.

07:15:27.740 Take the initiative.

07:15:28.740 Yeah.

07:15:29.140 I am a girl that does all this stuff.

07:15:32.040 Yeah.

07:15:32.240 So like, I don't want...

07:15:34.180 I don't... 0.99

07:15:35.060 Oh, shit. 1.00

07:15:36.260 Hold on. 1.00

07:15:36.740 Okay.

07:15:37.080 Well, then here.

07:15:38.320 We can make it even more nuanced, right?

07:15:41.160 Do you like men with beards?

07:15:43.760 No. 1.00

07:15:44.340 Shit. 1.00

07:15:45.240 Okay. 1.00

07:15:45.540 Do you like men with long nails? 0.97

07:15:46.800 Bro.

07:15:47.540 Wait, what?

07:15:47.980 Wait, what?

07:15:48.380 Bro, why...

07:15:49.100 Do you like men with long nails? 1.00

07:15:51.920 Damn, bro. 1.00

07:15:52.900 Throw me under the bus. 1.00

07:15:54.060 Yeah.

07:15:54.580 Do you like men with long nails? 0.97

07:15:56.360 No.

07:15:57.720 No.

07:15:58.240 Well, but you have long nails. 0.99

07:15:59.940 Oh, come on. 0.87

07:16:01.420 Well, don't...

07:16:01.800 You're putting...

07:16:02.600 You're putting...

07:16:03.600 You're coming off with something that doesn't...

07:16:07.520 What I'm saying to you is that the idea here is...

07:16:11.900 I have a beard.

07:16:12.440 Is that the endless amount of double standards goes on and on and on and on, and I think that

07:16:18.540 it's fine.

07:16:19.140 I think that it's fine that women have... 1.00

07:16:20.500 I think it's fine for women to have different standards than men.

07:16:26.380 I think that's totally fine.

07:16:27.620 But when women say there's a double standard and then pretend like there's not two different 1.00

07:16:32.940 standards, that's when I have a problem.

07:16:34.640 No.

07:16:35.220 Of course, there are, like, different things that people...

07:16:38.860 Like, a guy...

07:16:39.860 Like, a man wants different things from a woman and... 0.81

07:16:43.860 Right.

07:16:45.880 But...

07:16:46.280 Including body count.

07:16:49.440 Including body count, right?

07:16:51.760 Yes.

07:16:52.560 But, like, I don't think that...

07:16:56.100 Like, I would never pretend something from the other person that I don't do.

07:17:01.840 Talking about me.

07:17:02.540 Yeah, you would.

07:17:03.820 Talking about me.

07:17:04.080 Don't you want...

07:17:04.820 Wait, wait, I don't know.

07:17:05.740 Come on. 0.99

07:17:06.240 The long names, it's a shitty name. 0.98

07:17:07.980 That is not... 0.98

07:17:08.000 Listen.

07:17:08.520 That is not true.

07:17:10.140 That is not true.

07:17:11.260 Do you wear makeup?

07:17:13.760 That's just appearance.

07:17:15.100 I'm talking about the way...

07:17:16.480 Do you wear makeup?

07:17:17.160 Are you asked...

07:17:18.080 Do you wear makeup?

07:17:19.820 Yeah.

07:17:20.800 Do you want a man who wears makeup? 0.99

07:17:22.680 No.

07:17:23.280 So...

07:17:23.720 Okay.

07:17:24.500 Do you have long hair?

07:17:25.520 Do you want a man who wants long hair? 1.00

07:17:27.180 Do you have breasts? 1.00

07:17:27.940 Do you want a man who has breasts? 1.00

07:17:29.220 Like, it just goes on and on and on and on. 0.96

07:17:32.340 So when you say, I don't expect that a man, for me, would ever have to do a thing that

07:17:39.340 I don't do...

07:17:39.940 Not to do everything that I do.

07:17:42.120 I mean, I'm talking about the way, like, you are in the relationship.

07:17:46.520 I'm not talking about the appearance. 1.00

07:17:49.060 I'm not talking about, like, stupid stuff. 0.99

07:17:51.520 I'm not that superficial. 0.99

07:17:53.640 Like, I'm talking about if...

07:17:56.240 Because he read a lot of things.

07:17:58.360 Like, I'm the charismatic, the whatever it was.

07:18:04.000 I'm talking about these things.

07:18:05.500 I'm not talking about the nail polish.

07:18:07.300 I'm not talking about the makeup.

07:18:08.820 So that was my point.

07:18:10.180 So you expect the man to be able to have...

07:18:12.240 But in your point, if you're coming up with your point, you're right.

07:18:15.820 So do you expect the man to have children in the relationship?

07:18:21.360 I'm not going to ask.

07:18:22.840 I'm sorry.

07:18:24.420 Yeah, I mean, that's not the...

07:18:25.940 Like, they can't do that, right?

07:18:27.380 Yeah, that's the thing.

07:18:28.720 Yeah, they can't do that.

07:18:30.200 So the thing is, like, you wouldn't have that expectation, right?

07:18:33.340 Yeah.

07:18:34.420 So within the relationship itself, there's going to be different standards just based on that,

07:18:38.700 right?

07:18:38.940 Yeah, based on the nature, I guess.

07:18:44.560 Yeah, just based on the nature.

07:18:45.960 There's going to be different standards just based on the nature.

07:18:48.560 So even the idea...

07:18:49.360 No, even another thing.

07:18:50.440 Even the idea of expectation when it comes to the relationship standard is going to be

07:18:54.660 different.

07:18:55.380 Like, no matter what, it's going to be different.

07:18:56.620 Yeah, no, that's true.

07:18:56.980 That's true.

07:18:57.700 It could be that I want something from you that you don't want from me.

07:19:01.040 So it's totally fine.

07:19:04.060 I'm talking about me, what I want.

07:19:05.740 Like, what I'm trying to find.

07:19:10.160 Okay.

07:19:10.600 So I just want to make sure, from your view, inside of the relationship, absent any sort

07:19:19.440 of, like, physical necessities, like having children, or you're a woman, he's a man, inside

07:19:26.480 of the actual relationship, you don't want there to be anything that's unequally yoked.

07:19:31.500 You'll never expect a man to work if you won't work. 0.74

07:19:33.680 No, no, I think that there is always, like, even a balance.

07:19:36.900 So if I put something in the relationship, it could be that you put something else.

07:19:42.260 But for the basics, like the care, the importance, or, like, the...

07:19:49.820 Yeah, I mean, there are...

07:19:50.820 I think that there are some things that you should put the two of you in the relationship.

07:19:56.000 And then there are others that could be, like, that I'm funnier, and you're, like, I don't

07:20:03.520 know, smarter, but...

07:20:06.000 Yeah, I think I understand that.

07:20:08.740 But I have to ask a question.

07:20:11.660 If inside the relationship you want it to be kind of, like, equal, that's what you're saying,

07:20:16.100 right?

07:20:16.320 You want it to be at least somewhat equal?

07:20:18.440 You have to put the same effort.

07:20:20.740 Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

07:20:21.680 Like, the middle of the night, it's the middle of the night, and you're sleeping with the

07:20:26.520 man of your dreams in the bed, and the window breaks, and you see on the camera that there

07:20:32.980 are men breaking into the house.

07:20:34.660 Does he go first?

07:20:38.160 Yeah, I guess so.

07:20:39.600 Yeah, I guess so.

07:20:40.740 I don't know. 0.99

07:20:41.460 I don't know about all this equal shit, you know? 1.00

07:20:44.480 It doesn't sound all that equal to me. 0.97

07:20:47.240 I got to move things on a little bit here.

07:20:50.080 The last thing on that, though, it seems like, last thing, because I forgot to mention

07:20:54.740 this in my whole long list, a lot of women want funny guys, but they're not funny.

07:21:00.460 Oh, it could be.

07:21:01.980 Like, so there's kind of a double standard there.

07:21:04.420 Like, I don't hear...

07:21:05.680 You didn't need them like yours, then.

07:21:07.880 I'm not saying that...

07:21:09.080 Killer of cereal donated $30.

07:21:11.980 $30 TTS.

07:21:14.180 It's roasting time, and that spit has never looked hotter.

07:21:17.540 Get them, ladies and gentlemen.

07:21:19.960 Brian, it's tough love time.

07:21:22.560 Stairs are more beneficial than the elevator. 1.00

07:21:25.400 Desiree, holy fuck. 1.00

07:21:27.700 It's true. 1.00

07:21:28.380 Kill of cereal.

07:21:29.140 Guys, TTS, we've lowered the TTS to $30.

07:21:31.860 We're going to wrap the show up here pretty soon.

07:21:33.780 If you want, get some roasts in or whatever.

07:21:36.040 You guys got to roast me so I can lose some weight.

07:21:38.580 Also, can we...

07:21:39.480 Maybe a nice comment to Anissa here, because this is actually Madison's sister, and she's

07:21:45.940 joined the team.

07:21:47.560 She's done a great job tonight helping out with the show. 0.75

07:21:50.340 Can we get some W Anissa's in the chat?

07:21:53.160 Am I saying the name right?

07:21:54.440 Yeah.

07:21:55.000 Or am I butchering it?

07:21:56.000 You're good.

07:21:56.540 Okay, I'm getting it right.

07:21:57.520 Guys, let's get some W's in the chat for our new team member.

07:22:01.120 Her first stream as part of the team.

07:22:04.920 She did a great job today.

07:22:06.780 Killed it. 1.00

07:22:07.520 She killed it. 1.00

07:22:09.520 And, yeah. 0.92

07:22:12.380 W's in the chat for her. 0.99

07:22:13.440 I don't know what any of that shit is. 0.99

07:22:33.560 I just know lasagna. 0.99

07:22:35.160 That's about it.

07:22:35.780 I'm going to change the TTS voice to the Italian guy.

07:22:41.700 Mommy Jim, Giamondus, call you, who donated $30.

07:22:45.740 When Daddy Andrew goes after Brixen's fat, sweaty, fun bags, his mommy milk has squirt like

07:22:51.460 this.

07:22:52.740 Bruh.

07:22:53.900 What?

07:22:55.620 And come back like TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH,

07:23:01.780 TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH, TCH,

07:23:12.900 Yeah.

07:23:18.460 Does anybody ever subscribe to your OnlyFans?

07:23:20.580 no it's like a troll page but does anybody actually like fall for it and think there's

07:23:26.580 something there because i've been tempted to subscribe because i'm just curious if you had

07:23:29.980 anything you just have it it's just onlyfans.com there's like no pictures there's just nothing

07:23:33.860 there wait you you gotta cut you gotta wait for this part actually go ahead you guys just getting

07:23:37.460 some water okay okay is your is your merch for sale in there wait so we're gonna pull up guys

07:23:42.560 we're gonna pull up the desiree photo or whatever like the sketch the soulmate photo soulmate photo

07:23:49.380 guys i it's i got this soulmate photo sketch from a freaking psychic it was embarrassing it was

07:23:57.800 before like a couple weeks before i actually came here for the first time bruh that's crazy dude that's

07:24:06.420 kind of like and then i came on here and made some sort of weird baby girl trauma bond with him i 0.88

07:24:12.540 don't know what the fuck that's me that's scary that's weird i'm just thinking okay maybe it's 0.77

07:24:18.880 like a business partnership thing maybe it's not necessarily meaning it's like a romantic thing 0.97

07:24:24.300 but uh i mean i don't know i didn't believe in this sort of thing i i got a soulmate sketch

07:24:33.540 actually from a psychic and it was a brunette dark-eyed black woman so it couldn't it could 0.81

07:24:45.280 definitely couldn't be you okay because she's black and had dark hair and black eyes but i don't 0.99

07:24:53.360 really and it also was black right and also it's actually black not fake black i'm i'm a i'm an

07:25:00.300 also please never bring the city back ruins it every time oh i'm gonna trigger the

07:25:14.600 was that an italian what was that i'm gonna i'm gonna replay this one

07:25:19.300 now that's that's uh georgio we're gonna change it to adriano it's now adriano if anybody wants to

07:25:43.020 send something in italian uh let's see what other thing do i have to go over i think i need to go

07:25:48.460 over while it's tilted tonight kind of uh i i think it's worth mentioning uh yeah

07:25:56.100 um i'll probably get interrupted uh so those of you in the chat do you guys know who josie is 0.96

07:26:04.380 i'm just gonna bring it up just because yeah man they kind of fuck shit up vector donated 30 0.99

07:26:10.600 dollars this beauty comes out when she is mid-mannered however when she starts objectifying 1.00

07:26:16.960 herself i can see gorlok the destroyer within that gives me i love that girl my son actually i want to

07:26:25.520 hear the story my son knows about this show because of gorlok and he thought i was cool because he

07:26:30.920 showed me gorlok and i was like son that's the podcast that i go on and he was like he had this 0.98

07:26:37.380 moment of horror on his face that he was like oh shit my mother is a big deal 0.98

07:26:45.560 i think he just thought i was like i don't know just frolicking around at the mall or something when 0.90

07:26:55.260 i was like i'm going to this podcast yeah uh so chad you guys know this girl josie

07:27:00.740 you guys know josie um really didn't want to have to talk about this uh but so she's been on the

07:27:08.820 show twice i think she was last on over a year ago and she's been asking and asking and asking

07:27:15.320 she's active in the discord um asking to come back on the show and i told her you can come back on

07:27:25.980 if you bring a girl with you who would be good on the show and she finds a girl but

07:27:35.440 apparently this girl was not responding to her but she does not let me know this until like

07:27:41.320 1 p.m today and our meet time was 4 p.m so actually desirate you're not scheduled to be on the show but

07:27:47.400 because of josie i was kind of kind of you're desperate don't say that i was like trying to

07:27:54.380 find replacements right because the deal with josie was you can come back on the show if you

07:28:00.920 bring another girl with you this girl no shows was that tarzana girl was that no it was a different

07:28:07.740 girl so this other girl she just is no showing flaking whatever it happens in addition to this 1.00

07:28:14.140 i don't know she's having issues with her ride so she says i'm gonna be late she says she's gonna

07:28:19.600 be 30 minutes late my understanding i could be wrong this is not the most important piece of

07:28:25.600 information with the story is uh i think she ends up being an hour late so she begging i i don't want to 1.00

07:28:35.680 when was this this was she asked she's asked me half a dozen times if she could come back on the

07:28:42.900 show i finally said okay you bring a girl with you you can come back on the show and then she's i

07:28:49.360 believe she ended up being an hour late right when was this today so she was here i but i told her i

07:28:57.300 was like you're gonna be late and you're not bringing the girl who you said you're gonna bring

07:29:03.440 so i told her i was like just don't come she shows up anyways even though i tell her not to

07:29:09.820 she brings a mail with her and then they start essentially doxing the studio what does that

07:29:16.600 mean oh my god so they she she's like taking photos and videos just don't nobody say no no no no hold 1.00

07:29:26.740 on hold on don't say anything so she doxes the studio even though it's her fault she didn't get a 0.91

07:29:35.280 spot on the show because she was an hour late she said she was gonna be 30 minutes late i told her to 1.00

07:29:40.640 just not come yeah she promised to bring another girl with her she that didn't work trolling right 1.00

07:29:47.020 that's like false pretense or whatever and so they're fucking posting videos fucking irl streaming 0.99

07:29:54.400 outside of our fucking studio i don't know how fucking brain dead you have to be to like 0.99

07:29:59.800 not realize we keep the shit private and so she's fucking doxing us essentially 1.00

07:30:06.840 so yeah that's why i was freaking out like she's fucking doing all this extra shit i told her to 1.00

07:30:14.980 not show up to the fucking studio she doesn't show up with the dude she shows up in that she she doesn't 0.99

07:30:20.000 show up with the girl she shows up with the dude she's an hour late she starts fucking doing content 1.00

07:30:24.720 outside the fucking studio and it's like how is this and i told her not to fucking come stay in 1.00

07:30:30.600 your fucking wherever you're from in la it's so fucking ridiculous that i'm dealing with this shit 1.00

07:30:36.040 so i don't know anyways um we feel for you brian that does suck bro and she's she should know better 1.00

07:30:43.040 she should fucking know i was not aware of any of this yep and uh brian goes through a lot for this 0.91

07:30:52.540 platform that's why i have respect for you because it's crazy i can't imagine dealing like actually 0.99

07:30:58.600 i couldn't handle beauty school i could not handle beauty toaster brain level fucking 18 year old 1.00

07:31:03.960 girls like if she's a supporter of the show fucking listen to me stay your ass at fucking home don't 1.00

07:31:09.440 drive over and cause more it's already a fucking like issue doing the show as is without added extra 0.99

07:31:17.280 drama and she shows up on it essentially disinvited uninvited and now you're never going to have her 1.00

07:31:25.160 on again right if she could know and she could have rescheduled she could have rescheduled and 0.95

07:31:29.720 peacefully come on another time with another girl actually fucking i like there's stuff that gets me 0.99

07:31:35.600 frustrated but like i'm already get tilted enough as it is just doing the show trying to like have the 0.98

07:31:42.100 conversations and like for her to fucking show up it's the most oh my god dude i have no fucking 0.98

07:31:50.420 words as somebody who does content how are you gonna fucking show up to where somebody is and 1.00

07:31:56.120 fucking live stream your shit right outside and say that oh i'm we're 100 feet away fucking toaster 1.00

07:32:02.720 brain dumb fucking shit where is she where is she showing so fucking dumb she's out of the is she 1.00

07:32:07.700 showing it on her anyways i didn't want to fucking say anything but it's like god damn bro like 1.00

07:32:14.100 actually doxing our shit man so sorry i thought it was a good show i think we did good so i think i guess 0.98

07:32:21.580 um haters gonna hate haters gonna hate anyways i'll let the chats come through but 0.98

07:32:29.960 leper king griper donated 29 and 99 cents your worldview is treat others how they want to be

07:32:39.600 treated but won't date short guys do you think they want to be dated or is your arbiter fluid

07:32:45.280 running so low you can't be honest to italian scott donated 30 dollars if desiree's body count is

07:32:54.400 eight to ten i nailed megan fox in her prime oh my god i think that's my first boyfriend 1.00

07:33:01.000 cute that's cute uh desiree your pronouns are what the and fuck pronouns pronouns that's like what the 1.00

07:33:14.960 what's the pronoun thing oh i'm like a she her big sass energy donated 30 dollars can we set a new 0.97

07:33:23.960 minimum to silence desiree when she is on 100 is a bit too much it should be 20 max 0.94

07:33:30.240 wait what they don't want to pay so much to have my mic the desiree your pronouns are what the and 0.96

07:33:40.340 fuck all right thank you appreciate it to tamara tamara tamara the dutch appreciate it thank you 0.96

07:33:48.020 i don't know i'm not sure what that the pronoun thing though it's like i'm a woman so i'm her or 0.98

07:33:55.860 she i don't know what the bunch more coming through categories are sorry guys we're a bunch more coming

07:34:03.640 through one sec tell me we donated 30 dollars body count matters because the higher your bodies is you 0.64

07:34:10.560 will be consciously or unconsciously comparing your partner to your body's best qualities which make

07:34:16.020 impossible standard for anyone to uphold killer of cereal donated 30 dollars anisa w for holding it

07:34:25.440 down desiree you need not wear anything but a toilet seat around your neck for halloween don't take it

07:34:32.720 to heart when the children take the last piece of candy run brian daria donated 30 dollars w brickson

07:34:41.880 w andrew what a great show yet again no surprise there anyway is anybody up for watching the bow video

07:34:50.420 also to the panel would you bow for your man josh donated 30 dollars no desiree your son didn't 0.90

07:34:59.960 realize you were a big deal he realized his mother was an insane narcissistic strumpet who lacks all reason 0.96

07:35:06.700 and accountability let's face it he's known for some time too mommy jim jim underscore you who donated 0.98

07:35:15.740 30 dollars crappyola brixen's fat sweaty mommy milk is malfunctioned they should have squirted like like 1.00

07:35:22.700 and come back like tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh tsh lol paladins donated 30

07:35:40.180 dollars thank you don't worry brian i've had a few failed threesomes before too it's often not worth it

07:35:46.920 anyway never count on a girl to bring another girl giovanni jadie donated 30 dollars brian gets

07:35:57.420 desperate when a chick bails and dms desiree to come instead how long until that same thought process 1.00

07:36:03.440 occurs after a couple shots at 3 a.m and his date didn't come home with him he did not solicit me

07:36:09.920 old man marine donated 30 dollars anisa eyebrows are 10 10ths sorry morgan diarrhea girl your logic

07:36:18.780 is flawed and life starts and conception you're being brainwashed jade be more modest and your

07:36:25.180 dating outcomes might change legendary ego donated 29 dollars and 99 cents desiree did your son see when

07:36:35.240 you said that if he and his sister put out the bad energy that you said andrew and brian did you'd

07:36:40.620 want them off the planet and when pressed you say dead did he killer of cereal donated 30 dollars

07:36:48.960 brian i love you man but i can hear your fat underbelly button area growing from here

07:36:54.640 you should do more irls to increase your step count do something quick it's a bit defeating yeah

07:37:01.300 it's you did ask for it it's true uh lucy lucy you have that girl i'm gonna see her

07:37:08.900 dummy thick donated 69 dollars hey desi how much to see those mommy milkers trying to see that 1.00

07:37:17.000 body oddy oddy ten dollars wait hold on my subscription i gotta pause this really quick

07:37:21.120 wait so so lucy lucy she doesn't not like you they said the girl from fallout is on your show 0.97

07:37:28.220 people say i look like her oh kind of a little bit ish wait you're seeing lucy tomorrow yeah uh

07:37:37.680 doesn't she have covid right uh i'll be wearing a mask and a full hazmat suit so at saturday saturday

07:37:46.460 140 p.m she was scheduled to be on with you again today uh hey i'm sorry but just found out i have

07:37:53.000 covid and don't think i can make it this is what i deal with every show guys i don't know how you

07:38:02.420 freaking do this brian every show oh here's the here's the three i have like two girlfriends because 0.99

07:38:08.920 i can't handle this shit here's the three i have i'm sick bullshit they're not sick oh i thought you 0.99

07:38:16.300 said you were no two fan vague they never give details vague family emergency by the way is 0.99

07:38:23.060 uh is andrew back or do they have kids does she have not yet okay uh or my car broke down

07:38:29.920 that's all the excuses bro well i think they get scared brian i think it's she's already been on the

07:38:35.320 show well why did she i mean why would you agree lucy's a big l uh that is not true i'm gonna defend

07:38:44.160 lucy to my bro she lied she lied about being sick and flaked a day before the show she's trying to 1.00

07:38:51.300 not hurt your feelings i guess i'd rather honestly i'd rather somebody just say fuck you i don't like 0.99

07:38:56.640 your show i'm not coming than just like honesty i prefer honesty huh think of it as that then think 0.99

07:39:02.480 of it as that then then why did she okay whatever why did she agree to brian's a pretty safe guy to be

07:39:09.040 honest with that's why i like you brian okay be honest he'll just tell you no i hate you or i like

07:39:16.740 you hey it's it's a good quality yes because you never have to wonder where you stand what's that 0.99

07:39:24.480 song by from eminem oh my god i feel like it's so red-pilled black-pilled fucking doing this shit 0.99

07:39:31.100 just like how unreliable people are and they just lie about it jaded do you feel like your 0.99

07:39:36.720 criticisms of women has anything to do with what you've experienced from women on this show or is

07:39:43.420 it just from your personal dating life what do you i'm not sure what that even means like do you feel

07:39:49.020 like perhaps stressful or negative or toxic experiences from this show like are you gathering

07:39:58.600 your data about women from that and your dating life or just purely your personal dating life with

07:40:04.660 women you know what i'm saying because like as an influencer i would think that it would be hard

07:40:11.900 to delineate the two right it would kind of start blending together you deal with so many women at 1.00

07:40:17.960 work is it hard for you to for example if there was a woman out in the world that you liked or you had

07:40:26.840 interest in does your experience at work affect your judgment of that woman like are you coming into it

07:40:34.400 kind of with work trauma almost i don't know how to put it but biases i guess what i'm saying um

07:40:41.340 because you deal with kind of so many taboo like maybe a little bit maybe a little bit but i feel

07:40:47.960 like i was pretty uh from my own dating experiences i was pretty did you date a lot yeah i've dated a lot

07:40:56.640 like younger years all the way up until now or was there like a certain season throughout my whole

07:41:04.220 life you dated a lot i'm gonna let the rest come through them big sass energy donated 30 dollars

07:41:11.500 apologies if 500 is the standard to mute a mic it should be reduced greatly for desiré let's set it

07:41:18.960 at 20 think of the revenue you could have her on every episode and make 20 dollars every 10 minutes 0.99

07:41:25.620 that is true but a thousand dollars is still more than that anisa 10 out 10 10 10 sounds weak

07:41:34.140 well guys i have to go oh we're about to finish can you just wait like five minutes we're gonna

07:41:40.400 i promise we'll wrap in like five minutes uh let's see josh donated 30 dollars you know as much 0.99

07:41:48.400 shit as i give you desiré i'll at least admit you're a good sport you're a horrible person but 0.99

07:41:54.060 at least a good sport alpha lucy and alpha viv for making excuses stay dumb jingy yeah thank you 1.00

07:42:01.800 mommy jim jim underscore you donated 30 dollars desiré how much would pay to like the cheese from 0.92

07:42:08.640 under bricks and fat canopy is andrew back the trans girl good for you even though that re-injection of 1.00

07:42:15.100 estra made your brain go standard women over estimating value gmd jim donated 30 dollars

07:42:23.260 yeah thank you man men don't want a high body count women like they don't want a plummeting stock 1.00

07:42:28.360 it is just a bad investment in their future women keep your investment valuable and legs closed 1.00

07:42:35.200 yo jim thank you for the message man really appreciate it uh i actually do kind of want to

07:42:41.880 give a little props to desiré she's a good sport and uh she wasn't as bad still bad no still bad no 0.95

07:42:49.880 she was not no she was not as bad i'm trying to evolve i'm trying she was not as bad

07:42:55.120 she still interrupted a fuck ton and was kind of annoying whatever but it was better than last 0.99

07:43:01.660 time you did better than last time i'll give you that i'll give you that a little baby stuff 0.98

07:43:05.020 is a standard now that oh she just didn't happen to fucking drop her pants to try to show you her 1.00

07:43:10.660 is that is that our new standard for the conduct on whatever that is the new that you just suck 1.00

07:43:15.980 desiré you've always suck you're the worst can't even believe you're on the show everybody here 0.99

07:43:21.340 deserves to be here except you wait how did i do it damn brutal that's kind of sudden oh i can't even 1.00

07:43:27.380 i'm trying to do the innuendo all right guys uh if you want get your last last call on the uh roast

07:43:33.560 tts last call guys i'm gonna write last call uh last call guys streamlabs.com slash whatever

07:43:39.340 streamlabs.com slash whatever if you want to get your last thing in uh austin austin can you pull up

07:43:45.860 twitch please all right guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drops to follow and a prime sub

07:43:51.520 if you have one guys it's a quick free easy way to support the show every single month

07:43:57.480 every single month guys you can uh drop us a follow uh well you can only one time drop us a follow but

07:44:05.120 every month you can drop us a prime sub uh i'm gonna do a redirect to andrew we're gonna do a twitch

07:44:10.620 raid guys drop us a follow on the prime sub classic world of warcraft thank you for the prime man one

07:44:15.060 minute ago slaying bodies thank you for the prime energy donated thirty dollars how do i do

07:44:21.380 an eight hour show at twenty dollar mutes for ten minutes is a thousand dollars a show

07:44:26.260 desiree can literally print money and she could never talk so she's just on the show every time 1.00

07:44:32.920 but she just never talks i just look pretty that's actually kind of cheap can i can i like sit in the

07:44:39.100 middle of the table some of the time i mean i mean i feel like i need to be able to rotate around

07:44:44.340 table might break my back could not are you calling me fat now no i am a size six okay

07:44:51.060 it could break i am trying to support the healthy weight oh she was bad not as bad as her

07:44:58.520 the previous panel appearance so thank you man david tozecciac donated thirty dollars

07:45:05.300 saw brian and desiree go to the bathroom at the same time you have to subscribe to see

07:45:11.040 desiree legally change your last name to atlas already welcome mad sister i write it in my diary

07:45:17.960 desiree atlas desiree atlas you know i'm trying to manifest it yeah with my um soulmate sketch

07:45:24.740 you know what i do want to um i do also desiree astrology desiree brought like goodies i did i

07:45:35.720 brought this she brought she brought like stuff in the bathroom like toiletries like you know how 1.00

07:45:39.980 you go to a nice club or something and they have a bathroom attendant with stuff tuna well i just

07:45:46.020 had it left over the kids didn't like it the kids didn't like it i thought somebody might like it

07:45:50.700 i thought somebody might want it i was supposed to buy the chicken salad kits for my daughter and i

07:45:57.880 accidentally bought tuna and so nobody's eating it and i just thought i would share look this is what

07:46:03.220 she brought i mean those were like in the earthquake packs when we were kids remember guys crazy come 0.95

07:46:08.500 on this is what we're in the fallout nobody packs desiré nobody ate fucking tuna packs when we were 0.99

07:46:16.580 kids nobody fucking ate that shit ever listen i have never i've never even seen this fucking snack 0.99

07:46:22.840 packs and bologna sandwiches desiré they didn't need fucking tuna i had to always eat meat i have to 0.99

07:46:29.580 eat a lot oh it's oh wait hold on i really do my friends know this about me i'm kind of oh it's in 0.98

07:46:36.940 a can i'm very sensitive i was like what the fuck i have insulin all right here do you want that it's 0.86

07:46:40.940 true enjoy enjoy the tuna in a can um uh okay let's see uh oh i just wanted to share with we are going 0.98

07:46:48.820 to uh we pulled up twitch oh really quick can you do uh let's uh we gotta do debate university guys

07:46:55.720 guys you gotta go to debate university.com debate university.com you gotta get the course

07:47:04.340 it's very handsome verbal combat picture of and verbal combat you want to learn how to become a master

07:47:10.660 debater like andrew and um we kind of look alike me and andrew oh please don't maybe you're his long

07:47:20.400 last please do not insult andrew okay please do not insult him 2006 were you a milkman by any chance

07:47:27.940 is your mom single i mean well wasn't the mom's gonna come on situationship actually oh she would

07:47:34.480 be very interesting to have on the show but we should have had her on with you 1.00

07:47:38.040 so okay if you want to learn how to think debate and craft arguments you want to learn to be able to

07:47:46.320 debate like andrew wilson you need to get this course verbal combat six hours of instruction 80 plus

07:47:51.660 different educational videos you can find it at debate university.com justin martin's donated 30

07:47:59.900 dollars desiree looks like she sounds retarded to say that in this generation are we allowed to say 1.00

07:48:06.180 that i'm autistic you guys you can't say that i actually have a neurological about that desiree 0.61

07:48:15.180 nobody believes that nobody believes it do you need my like diagnosis you want to go through the

07:48:20.380 hipaa laws let's see uh we're gonna raid who are we gonna raid except everybody tells me i'm mentally

07:48:25.760 ill and then i tell you my diagnosis and you don't believe me so we're going to bring you another

07:48:30.460 diagnosis next time uh hey so awesome diagnosis for psychosis i have a diagnosis for alodar

07:48:37.680 moderate autism and complex alodar all right guys we're gonna wrap the show here uh it was a long

07:48:47.520 show appreciate the panel for making it to the end here uh so uh gg

07:48:54.880 well played gg well played hold on well played to the panel last call hit the like button please

07:49:03.280 basically desirate everybody except desirate on your way out thank you guys for tuning in tonight

07:49:08.820 just pause the audio if you can i'm not self-diagnosed is it is the mouse okay

07:49:17.800 okay every blank is a self-diagnosed autist probably he he's using the uh redacted word

07:49:27.960 why does everybody think i don't have a clinical diagnosis i don't understand okay um so guys you

07:49:35.120 could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone

07:49:37.620 who super chats donate some supports the show uh your patronage uh means the world guys uh lots of

07:49:44.740 uh couldn't do the show without you guys pretty much uh so we're not like getting caller daddy

07:49:52.060 offers from spotify for 100 or i guess it's serious now like 100 million 100 million dollars for them

07:50:00.060 uh these so not getting sponsorships uh old man marine thank you man blank has definitely made a 0.99

07:50:06.120 comeback no cares about people saying uh retarded you blank fyi you're mentally ill and have horrible 0.98

07:50:14.360 habits you're not autistic you are slur i don't really know what there's a lot of blanks 0.99

07:50:23.160 also i don't understand what what diagnosis would be yeah end of the show so uh we will be live again

07:50:32.340 tuesday at 5 p.m pacific we have a very good show planned for tuesday any girls who want to be on the 1.00

07:50:36.780 show dm at whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara uh oh seven's in the chat

07:50:41.640 uh let's see we need to you have can you pull up aladar on the window tab okay uh that should be

07:50:49.620 fine guys we're gonna he's playing world of warcraft you can put put the audio on uh could

07:50:54.600 you x out that celebrate september thing that's down there just hit the x yep okay uh guys who watch

07:51:02.760 on twitch drop us a follow before i send you off if you have a father that really really really like

07:51:08.680 you can load on the keyboard okay uh guys i'm gonna send a raid to aladar he's playing world of

07:51:15.800 warcraft classic he's uh got 45 viewers now so we're gonna send over a nice little raid to him

07:51:21.620 uh thank you guys for watching on twitch i'm gonna send that raid over right now thank you guys

07:51:26.220 that should be heading out in just a sec we're gonna just watch him for just 30 seconds

07:51:32.360 and he's playing a shaman lynn i don't play uh really anything you can make it a little louder

07:51:39.040 oh who's this somebody rated hey whatever what's up man

07:51:45.760 where is he is he in desolus where is he where is this guy where is that is that desolus i was

07:51:53.920 watching uh i think it's i think your last podcast that i was watching

07:51:58.740 thank you very much dude i'm very much appreciated all right you can you can x out of that you can

07:52:07.960 x out welcome everyone all right okay i think that's it are we forgetting anything i don't think

07:52:13.940 so was there anything else we had to pull up any no i think we're all good all right guys um

07:52:20.320 oh seven's in the chat i hope you guys have a good night we're gonna send a raid over uh a

07:52:27.120 redirect over to andrew wilson's channel uh he's gonna be streaming for a few more minutes uh after

07:52:32.500 we wrap so uh oh seven's in the chat guys i hope you guys have a really good night and uh we will

07:52:37.780 see you on tuesday good night guys oh do you want to hold on i'll press it sorry okay good night guys

07:52:47.900 take two

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Whatever Podcast - September 09, 2024

INSANE Losing VlRGlNlTY Story？! She DETRANSlTIONED？! She Got ARRESTED？! Andrew! ｜ Dating Talk #194

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