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00:02:29.220 also mention a little later on the show anyways without further ado we're going to have the guests

00:02:33.260 introduce themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead do we have to say the age

00:02:38.940 yes okay my name is helen zod i'm 42 and my name is helen zod i'm 42 years old and my occupation

00:02:47.860 is i'm a business owner i own several health health care companies from home health hospice pharmacy

00:02:53.900 compounding commercial buildings and just uh created my own uh podcast and radio app that is just a new

00:03:01.360 project that i'm working okay cool very cool um my my name is claudia and i'm 34 and i am a neuropsychologist

00:03:12.140 and i'm also a tv personality all right welcome hi i'm amy i'm 33 and i'm a human resources leader

00:03:20.940 33 you said and you used to be in the military correct yeah i was in the army for 16 years were

00:03:27.300 you enlisted or officer uh both oh both you started as enlisted and then uh nco or well nco is non

00:03:34.420 commissioned officer so it's what you are before you enlist i'm sorry before you go um officer route

00:03:38.340 so non-commissioned officer is the same thing as enlisted okay i'm obvious i'm yeah okay um so but

00:03:46.100 then uh you went to college and then you like became so i joined the military when i was 17 so i did college

00:03:52.620 in the military um and then i went through ocs the last few years that i was in right because in order

00:03:57.760 to become a like an officer you need to go to college first correct but you can actually do it

00:04:01.760 while you're going to college too they have rotc for that as well okay gotcha um what uh what was

00:04:07.900 your you were in the army correct yeah army okay what was your uh profession while you were in the army

00:04:13.760 so i had a couple uh 42 alpha which is human resources 79 tango which is recruiting and retention

00:04:19.340 marketing wait did you just say hr yeah oh okay no just kidding uh okay that's cool um what rank did

00:04:27.660 you rise to uh oh one oh one yeah second lieutenant okay very cool uh anything else uh any tours

00:04:36.260 where you deployed afghanistan okay uh from 2010 to 2012 um a few other places as well how many how

00:04:43.880 many tours did you do two uh in a combat zone yeah good times yeah good times nice

00:04:49.240 hey everyone my name is cy i'm 30 something 30 something 30 something yes uh i do okay i'm just

00:04:59.980 gonna put 39 i'm putting 39 down sure yeah okay yeah 39 all right and um i do fashion design on the

00:05:08.820 side and documentary filmmaking mainly okay cool uh a little closer to the mic please hi my name is

00:05:16.620 heidi um i am 23 and i'm currently unemployed you said 23 correct okay i'm aubry and i'm the

00:05:27.600 publicist for turning point usa and i'm 25 years old

00:05:30.360 oh okay i'm gonna fix that really quick um just don't keep don't put it on that angle uh quite yet but

00:05:41.560 uh if everybody wants to continue on hi i'm nikki i just turned 28 and i'm a project manager for aerospace

00:05:49.920 my name is brandon i'm 25 years old and i am a vfx artist

00:05:56.920 one sec guys just getting this fixed here

00:06:00.900 one sec you guys want to do a little dance while uh you know do a little something

00:06:09.600 let's go brandon let's go brandon you guys know me you guys know me that was probably so funny

00:06:28.920 okay um here guys it should be one in the chat if it's fixed um we we just got this new camera so

00:06:39.000 it's expected we had a little it was a very minor uh just something in obs i forgot to check but one

00:06:43.920 in the chat if uh you no longer hear the echo i'm assuming it should be fixed all right sweet sweet sweet

00:06:50.200 thank you thank you to the chat for apprising us of that issue so uh oh i have one note here so

00:06:59.060 madison um madison there's been a lot of uh people calling you out for culturally appropriating

00:07:08.840 german culture by you wearing that world war one imperial german pickle haba so madison uh what do you

00:07:17.380 have to uh what do you have to say for yourself

00:07:20.920 i just wanted to say wait you're getting to the camera so they can actually from the bottom of my

00:07:30.100 heart i would like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody yeah

00:07:38.200 okay there you have it and then a little bit later on in the show um we will be asking the

00:07:47.360 panel about if you would date someone who culturally appropriated on a regular basis so we will talk

00:07:53.260 about that because it's somewhat related okay so we're going to go around the table once more

00:07:58.100 uh what is your current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship friends

00:08:05.060 with benefits relationship married polycule sex cult if you're single how long have you been

00:08:09.500 single if you're in a relationship or well if you're in a relationship how long have you been

00:08:13.780 in a relationship and what's your longest relationship go ahead um i am single at the

00:08:18.900 moment i am single at the moment um i broke up on may and it was only like almost around seven eight

00:08:28.500 months and uh longest relationship 14 years and then after that uh it was way more short like one year

00:08:39.940 six months two years okay um were you married for the yeah i was married for 14 years do you have any

00:08:47.900 kids or i do how many kids yeah i have two kids 21 and 19 oh wow okay um so you had you had uh your

00:08:58.300 first kid when you were 18 19 yeah right around there all right teenage pregnancy it was like no i was

00:09:04.620 like 21 yeah she's 21 and i'm 42 so not teenage pregnancy yeah not that she was 21 oh when you

00:09:14.700 were 21 yeah okay and she is 21 the the math system in the u.s is not great you know so i've failed

00:09:22.320 um but uh okay so what the the guy you were married to for 14 years is that the one that you had uh kids

00:09:32.020 with yes okay got it uh what about you um i'm currently single but i am talking to someone um so i'm not

00:09:43.420 really that active that's why i had um i had my tangent account pretty deleted so right um yeah so

00:09:51.080 we'll see where it goes so you're single but you're talking to somebody yeah how long have you been

00:09:55.920 talking to said person uh like almost a month and it's going well so okay yeah what would you describe

00:10:02.720 the current situation like would you call it the situationship would you have right now

00:10:07.240 um no i um i i'm a person that directly talks to them and tells them that um what their plan is um if

00:10:18.660 they're looking for something exclusive or if i'm look what i'm looking for eventually if we feel a

00:10:25.220 connection because then i don't i don't like gray areas and this and i i like to look at their emotional

00:10:31.920 maturity if they if they're the type of person that's like i'm not really feeling this or if he's not

00:10:37.160 even open to talking to it and kind of ghost me then it's like you know i don't want to waste my

00:10:41.480 time but yeah so we we kind of know where we are at pretty much right now and it's going well sure

00:10:47.840 uh what's your longest relationship you've ever had 10 years 10 years were you married um no

00:10:53.060 it was my call it was high school sweetheart and then we went to call i went to ucsb so yeah very

00:11:00.160 cool welcome back thank you uh okay what about you single um on and off so not

00:11:07.100 like a solid chunk of time for being single like yeah oh you're currently in an on again

00:11:12.860 off again no no no not like a situation ship but just like you know like sometimes i date sometimes

00:11:17.940 i don't oh so are you currently no i'm single right now okay single right now okay longest

00:11:24.900 relationship three years three years and how long have you been single um just for a few months this

00:11:32.880 time around a few months okay what about you um single not in a rush longest relationship about

00:11:40.180 three years uh three did you say how long you've been single i did not oh how long how long have you

00:11:48.280 been single um i think it's about six years now six six years okay you said you're not in a rush but

00:11:55.340 you're 39 yeah i know right i'm just having fun with you want to have kids no i don't oh no kids

00:12:00.920 nope okay uh so not in that much of a rush then yeah uh do you have the time to myself for sure

00:12:06.860 have you ever been married nope do you want to get married i don't know yet you don't know yet

00:12:11.740 okay good good times all right what about you um i'm single um i'm currently in the talking stage

00:12:20.000 um and my last relationship was um 2019 talking stage how long has the talking stage been going

00:12:27.780 on for you um literally days literally days okay so a couple days uh longest relationship

00:12:33.540 um one year one year got it uh what about you i'm currently in a relationship and i've been dating

00:12:40.920 my current boyfriend for about five years going on six this november all right where's that ring

00:12:47.580 is he watching right now probably would or playing cod one of the two he's either playing

00:12:58.360 call of duty or watching this it's okay you know do you want do you want to say into one of these

00:13:03.880 cameras do you want to say stop playing cod and watch whatever come on what are you doing what are

00:13:09.080 you doing brian got him would it be romantic if he proposed to you in the chat oh that's so cute

00:13:14.920 that's cute her face i think that might be brilliant what if i told you that he actually

00:13:19.800 actually hold on i'll wait for him to do it never mind

00:13:22.940 did i just ruin sorry okay um sorry rupert i didn't mean to uh throw off your game uh and

00:13:33.380 is this your longest relationship uh yes this is my longest relationship okay uh what about you

00:13:39.120 i am currently single um last official relationship was about a year ago last guy i was consistently

00:13:45.760 dating about eight months or so yeah longest relationship was five years

00:13:51.260 and you said your most uh recent one was eight eight months months ago okay yeah all right uh what

00:14:00.540 about you yeah i'm currently single uh my longest relationship was four and a half years and

00:14:07.200 we've we broke up maybe about eight months ago yeah it was me yeah it was her

00:14:14.900 and if you don't wreck i don't know did you when you introduced kind of a few people recognize me

00:14:21.400 yes this is brandon this is miss champagne brandon champagne poppy who uh is one of our uh

00:14:28.020 very generous patrons so uh welcome to the podcast sir thank you yes i appreciate it brandon

00:14:35.760 what do you put when you uh in the stream labs thing do you put your last name too i don't want

00:14:40.320 to i mean yeah brandon melz oh okay you put the whole thing okay yeah i just wrote my full name

00:14:44.680 okay welcome welcome yeah all right sweet so uh the first thing that we're going to talk about

00:14:49.960 and we're going to just talk we have a lot of topics to cover a lot of you sent some pre-show

00:14:54.240 information the first thing really quick uh we should have hit this last show is ariana grande

00:14:59.000 she uh she i are they getting divorced in any case there was infidelity she's with a new man

00:15:06.940 she was married for a what one or two years i don't know uh we have some photos of her new partner

00:15:13.340 just to give some context here so um she's previously married to dalton gomez i believe it's like a real

00:15:21.240 i'm it's pathetic that i know these things um it's against your will so this ariana grande on the

00:15:27.460 right there and then that's ethan slater who played spongebob on broadway uh let's just go through some

00:15:35.020 of the more photos just okay so that's her new oh you can't really see uh that's it's fine it's fine

00:15:40.620 uh or you can just oh there you go there you go okay next buddy next all right there there's okay

00:15:48.680 all right next okay all right uh maybe video really quick they're really doing okay they're

00:15:56.500 really doing next time okay uh yeah next time okay okay all right okay yeah next one now okay here

00:16:09.240 we have mr ethan slater with ariana grande and her eyebrows are gone highlight i don't know what's

00:16:17.960 going on there but um and then that's ethan slater with his wife and they just had a kid

00:16:23.800 uh i think i don't know the timeline but they just had a kid it's like a baby so they were both married

00:16:31.400 ethan slater the the dude uh he's married with with a newborn and then ariana grande also married next

00:16:42.320 one okay there's the love triangle i guess next i think this is the last one next one they're filming

00:16:50.000 a show together is this oh that's the wife okay so in any case um ariana grande in my opinion a little

00:17:00.360 bit of a homewrecker little homewrecker um does anyone here have any reaction to the infidelity on

00:17:09.520 both sides i don't like her i do have a question though like i i guess maybe you're saying it because

00:17:16.300 she it's trending uh for her and her situationships but like he's also a homewrecker like he's doing it

00:17:24.460 too well the difference is is though is he has a kid

00:17:30.140 but it takes two to tango she's kind of right it does but are you saying that he's innocent in this

00:17:38.760 no i'm not saying he's innocent he i'm not saying hey he you know he fucked up she didn't pork herself

00:17:44.820 but it is a little like if you know that i do think there's a little bit more

00:17:50.680 blame that can be put on one party not blame in terms of the infidelity happening but who is more

00:17:59.040 like there's more like there's it's it's like a much worse look i think because it's one thing if

00:18:06.540 like okay if you there's degrees to it right like let's say somebody's been with someone for a week

00:18:12.360 and you're the person that comes in and like you know interferes with the relationship i think that's

00:18:18.340 less i still think it's not a good look but i think that's less egregious than if you insert yourself

00:18:26.160 into someone who's been married for 10 years and they have three kids then you're really fucking up

00:18:32.280 like not just there's not the infidelity did i just infidelity component there's the you're now

00:18:39.720 breaking up a family and there's kids involved so i think kind of same lines i think they're both

00:18:45.700 responsible but like in reverse like he definitely has more of a responsibility because he does have

00:18:50.740 a family and he does have a newborn and he does have a wife that he was committed to etc to be a man

00:18:55.740 and to not allow anything to break his relationship with his wife and to take time away from his child

00:19:00.860 i think he's got the onus of the responsibility frankly although she's not scot-free i mean she's just

00:19:05.880 guilty i'm just saying like it's if you're gonna you know say she's a homewrecker which i'm not

00:19:09.820 confirming or denying because i don't know he is yeah let me let me clarify i guess what the angle

00:19:14.600 i'm coming from is absolutely like he has to take into consideration he himself has a family i'm just

00:19:20.920 saying when it comes to the impact on the other relationship so him cheating with ariana breaks up a

00:19:29.700 one-year marriage curtis reynolds donated 100 what's kaiser hat girl's name she looks really

00:19:36.780 innocent and cute you should include her more in the conversation

00:19:40.600 uh yeah she was she was uh more part of it uh in uh our last show but hey thank you curtis reynolds

00:19:48.080 the the angle i'm coming from is the impact on the other relationship so what he's doing by cheating

00:19:55.860 with ariana the impact it has on dalton gomez they don't have kids together so that's kind of

00:20:01.220 the angle i'm i'm looking at it from i i read a story that they uh dalton and ariana broke up before

00:20:06.740 any of that happened is that true i mean i don't know if any of it's true right it's all clickbait but

00:20:11.540 um yeah i mean uh if if what you're i think they're both both responsible that's all okay i mean even

00:20:18.120 then she's done this like three times because when she was with mac miller she ended up with pete

00:20:24.240 davidson and then pete davidson in less than two months she was married to dalton gomez so she has

00:20:29.880 this she doesn't move on pretty fast she moves on extremely fast like a month between relationships

00:20:34.260 yeah i'm gonna get married right right right i'm not saying he should do that but go ahead so i have

00:20:41.200 something really quick to say so i was talking to a colleague about this and um one thing that i

00:20:47.260 that we started discussing was the fact that she actually what did end up going to um

00:20:54.020 her house when they were going and holding the baby and like having like while she was they were

00:20:59.880 already cheating so to have the psych in order to have a psychology to have no remorse seeing the

00:21:05.900 other the wife holding the child and being able to have an affair with this man um takes a lot of

00:21:14.740 almost narcissism and almost um yeah um i would call her like i i take it with a grain of salt

00:21:22.140 because i have no idea i've never diagnosed her but almost like a narco path in order to

00:21:26.640 have that kind of like i'm holding your child i know you and i'm also fucking oh i'm also screwing

00:21:34.800 your husband at the same time and she does already have a behavior pattern where she does um um tend to

00:21:43.040 break up marriages and from that we started discussing that um her mother she's a child of

00:21:50.440 divorce there was emotional dysregulation from the beginning of a child because the divorce does

00:21:56.140 impact the child and i have no idea if she got therapy she's self-soothing most children don't get

00:22:01.720 self-soothing so hold on just a sec

00:22:05.220 yo love your podcast you talk about such great topics i love bringing them to my friends nd having

00:22:12.380 the same discussions in my life deaf some weird girls with dumb perspectives you have on the show mom

00:22:18.520 i love when maddie mocks you haha uh yo banana deep hey thank you man appreciate the tts um maddie's

00:22:27.200 not mocking me she's just like my uh she just copies everything i say she's she's like my mini me

00:22:34.720 but a different race and gender okay um uh so okay continue with your point yeah so that so i mean

00:22:44.420 it's just like it seems like like she just has already something there that hasn't been doing and

00:22:51.020 she just has already this behavior pattern that might continue and she doesn't have you know because

00:22:56.540 she she already knows that she can take a man from a wife so that behavior and no one stops her

00:23:02.580 she's she's a celebrity she's the one of those people that say get yes to you're doing fine who

00:23:08.260 cares if you just um destroy someone's life so you know it's just going to continue and it's kind of

00:23:16.200 gross yeah it's disturbing behavior i'm not going to say gross but yeah but the other party i agree is

00:23:22.020 also hit the spongebob guy that's no yeah i don't know yeah yeah anyone any other thoughts from

00:23:29.680 anybody on the are we basing this all on what we get on the news though like behind closed doors

00:23:35.400 something else happens always a story there so it's so hard to pass judgment especially because they

00:23:41.160 are in front of the camera well always anyway so very limited perspective yeah i agree with that

00:23:48.400 yeah we don't know the whole story who knows what actually happened but in any case it does seem

00:23:55.360 like uh i suspect both their marriages are over and i think arian is gonna be on to the next guy

00:24:03.180 pretty quick pretty quick so i feel like he's kind of this guy with his wife and his kid

00:24:11.040 he's throwing away his marriage for a short fling with ariana grande kind of sussy you're so invested

00:24:19.240 in her what do you mean i don't know why is that sussy i feel like she's single now yeah you're like

00:24:25.080 you're waiting or something she's not gonna be single for a long time so what do we think about her

00:24:28.740 if uh if she's down i'm i'll i'll get with ariana what's up my dm's open but hey wait why is it

00:24:38.300 why is that sussy he's asking our feedback like so what do we think if i start dating her like what

00:24:42.960 do we i have to say that the man's the the head of the household you're supposed to be protecting your

00:24:49.380 family from things like unwanted intruders and sometimes you have to protect your family from

00:24:54.420 yourself and your selfishness so is it really ariana's fault yes well i think it's both people

00:25:01.220 both people's fault i feel like he had a little bit more of a responsibility to say hey no i'm

00:25:07.280 spongebob on broadway please ariana grande leave my family alone and he didn't do that because would

00:25:11.880 you look at her thank you next well speaking of thank you next on to our next topic we're gonna talk

00:25:19.140 about this tiktok kind of went viral recently mia khalifa if you can pull that one up nick

00:25:24.000 speaking of marriage too all right if you can play it for us

00:25:31.040 oh we're comparing stats baby girl doesn't know that i am tom brady at this game

00:25:39.420 married at 18 divorced at 21 second marriage married at 25 divorced at 28 third engagement

00:25:47.200 engaged at 29 ended it at 30 but i kept the ring i'm still keeping tom brady on his toes

00:25:54.840 we should not be afraid to leave these men we are not stuck with these people marriage is not

00:26:03.980 a sanctimonious thing it is it is paperwork it's something it's it's it's a commitment you make to

00:26:11.000 someone but if you feel like you're not getting anything from that commitment and you're trying

00:26:17.580 you gotta go you gotta go you have to go i know it's difficult to fill out paperwork and to make

00:26:25.080 appointments and to do all of these things but this is your fucking life do you want to be stuck with

00:26:30.140 someone period do you want to be stuck with something okay we're gonna go around the table

00:26:36.920 uh your thoughts on the video if any and we'll go around well i kind of agree with the idea of like

00:26:44.340 we are not supposed to be stuck with the idea of the marriage and then so if it's not working you

00:26:50.180 should if one if between parties they're not aligned together i think definitely they should

00:26:56.660 uh you know move apart and get separated but i'm not i don't think me personally i don't think like

00:27:03.660 we should jump in and get married to someone i think we should like definitely date them for a couple of

00:27:08.160 years and then after five years maybe if if you really want to like spend like the rest of your life

00:27:15.200 which i think is nonsense because we evolve we grow we we are completely different people every year

00:27:22.460 every five years and if that person wants to grow with us welcome let's live this journey together

00:27:28.160 and if not then i'll walk on this journey on my own with someone or with someone else

00:27:33.800 um i well i definitely think that um um being um her um i think that she does she's on the

00:27:48.220 she's on the right track that you should not stay in a marriage if you're not happy

00:27:51.980 but i do believe her and this is not bias erroneous wait so if you're not happy you should just leave

00:28:00.360 a marriage wait i have i have a point i'm not done go ahead um i have a different perspective on

00:28:07.100 marriage of course i for me i was raised with with really strict parents and a really strict

00:28:12.960 strict catholic upbringing so i think for me marriage is forever that's why i am very choosy

00:28:18.720 when it comes to who i'm going to end up marrying but um with people that have worked it i this

00:28:25.120 completely just i'm not being an unbiased opinion just from like data just say it um sex sex workers

00:28:33.920 tend to have ignored their amygdala for a long time so they rush on survival mode so for them

00:28:42.960 um their relationships tend to be chaotic rollercoastery very fun very up there so when they

00:28:51.840 get into that phase where that honeymoon the adrenaline the excitement is over they know

00:28:59.120 that they're gonna move on to something that neat that gives them that same excitement if it starts

00:29:04.960 to get slow and like kind of mediocre which is a healthy relationship once that honeymoon which that

00:29:11.440 once that adrenaline is gone um you should be you know working through the marriage by spicing things

00:29:18.480 up she has a million of guys that are looking after her of course she's going to divorce them and get

00:29:23.920 that excitement get those butterflies again get that roller coaster feeling again so of course her

00:29:29.120 marriages don't work because she needs that that like adrenaline that high that stuff again because

00:29:37.200 she's still living off survival it's very hard for sex workers to come off um to feel to heal themselves

00:29:47.920 sometimes and get themselves um back into um emotional regulation but um but it happens and it's the same

00:30:00.880 thing with sex addicts too it's very hard to um because their their core like pleasure has already been

00:30:08.560 bonded in their brain so like it's very hard to find something else that brings them that pleasure you

00:30:14.240 have to be very mentally strong and have to do the work so i think that's why her marriages have been

00:30:20.560 failing and that's it that's me i totally believe in marriage um i definitely want to get there one day and

00:30:28.160 um i definitely think that uh you should be wise about who you marry you should take your time to make sure

00:30:33.680 you're making the right decision because once you enter into that with somebody i think it should mean

00:30:38.000 something significant and uh you shouldn't give up so easily but at the same time some marriages are

00:30:45.760 warranted to be separated

00:30:49.520 well i could see that she definitely has a pattern so my question it's more of a question um should marriage

00:30:56.480 be the ultimate goal of any commitment i mean it's time we talk about relationships all the time

00:31:03.760 maybe there are other modes of being together that does not necessitate getting married

00:31:10.720 such as forever commitment i mean it's up to the people to define that and outside of it i thought

00:31:16.960 you're talking like polyamory or something do you have experience with that i don't none nope okay all right

00:31:26.480 um i think she needs to have a better discernment in choosing a partner because obviously she's

00:31:34.000 treating um these men as disposable okay i think that's a really great point um i couldn't disagree

00:31:41.360 more with this video i think that when it comes to um the highs and lows of marriage you know not

00:31:47.280 everything's always going to be that the butterflies and the roller coaster and things like that i think

00:31:51.040 that two people are better than one and i believe that together you can really take on the world a

00:31:56.480 lot better as cheesy as that may sound and for what women lack in men make up in and what men uh

00:32:02.160 lack in women make up in or you know vice versa i think i might have just said the same thing twice

00:32:06.720 but you understand what i mean um and i think that it's a very ignorant thing to say what she's saying

00:32:12.960 and if she's dating tom brady did i hear that she is or was she said something about tom brady in the

00:32:17.920 video if she's trying to date tom brady then tom brady can do a lot better and he should go back to

00:32:22.160 his family because men need to be in the home i yeah i disagree with mia khalifa um kind of what

00:32:32.080 with you said she brought the dsm up in the dms diagnosing and everything but yeah no she's saying

00:32:37.920 marriage is not a forever commitment well it is that's why i feel like a lot of people don't realize

00:32:43.120 that they think it's gonna be some some fairy tale and it's not think of how you are as a person

00:32:48.160 and how annoying and lazy and stupid you can be now you're chaining yourself to someone else who's

00:32:52.560 gonna have those ups and downs so you have to be accepting and loving enough to realize crap they're

00:32:58.560 gonna not be perfect all the time neither am i but let's still agree to give ourselves the best of

00:33:05.600 each other and help each other grow into lovely human beings but yeah it's definitely forever should be

00:33:12.240 be yeah all i would say is i would not take any sort of advice from mia khalifa for relationships

00:33:21.440 why not i don't think anybody should be taking advice from her um yeah relationships are hard

00:33:27.520 work so at the end of the day i think the merit or the goal is marriage um all i gotta say is i'd

00:33:33.600 completely disagree i definitely really love those like couples that are like you know 40 years in

00:33:39.680 getting advice from them like how do you do it i think those are the cutest stories of like how

00:33:43.120 they made it work they're like you have to just deal with them yeah they suck sometimes and then

00:33:47.040 they don't and those are the times it's good yeah you're not going to be happy with somebody 24 7.

00:33:52.000 yeah it's unrealistic like it's doesn't matter well i mean given what she said and granted i she's been

00:33:59.040 thrice divorced and she's an ex-sex worker and is very publicly out there on the internet uh however i do think

00:34:09.680 there certainly there's what's up nick uh maybe she could turn her mic a little bit this way so it

00:34:16.480 doesn't have a face when she talks about it okay um i think a lot of women actually kind of agree with

00:34:26.080 her to some degree though about if you're not happy in a marriage then you should leave but you know when

00:34:33.360 you're raising kids i think your personal happiness takes a back seat amen now obviously i don't think

00:34:43.360 that you should stay in a genuinely abusive situation however you're for example uh when you

00:34:49.440 start having kids maybe going out to music festivals and going to the nightclub

00:34:55.920 maybe that takes a back seat maybe you cut that out entirely maybe you previously in a previous life

00:35:00.960 or when you were younger had fun doing those things but now that you have kids that i think that

00:35:06.800 shit is off the table like your focus should be your kids yeah not hoeing around at a club or bar like

00:35:16.400 no so um i don't think that again like if you're in a bad situation you're being abused like yes

00:35:25.440 absolutely leave but if like just i'm not happy i don't i don't think that's a valid reason to get

00:35:34.160 divorced um from what i'm hearing it almost sounds like being a woman depends entirely on being good

00:35:45.680 with motherhood so do we like limit being a woman to that i know it's important yes what do you mean

00:35:52.000 because you keep saying oh but the kids the kids first the kids first what about the other aspects

00:35:58.160 of being a woman like her happiness unto herself if she's not fulfilled in her marriage if she's not

00:36:05.520 if she's empty what is she supposed to um supposed to pour out into loving her kids but is that her

00:36:11.440 husband's responsibility to make her happy it's not that's exactly it's not her husband's responsibility

00:36:16.320 it's her responsibility to look for what makes her happy because at some point like when you give and

00:36:21.360 give which is what i see i'm come from a very traditional family and i've seen my mom give and

00:36:26.480 give you take a pause and wonder um i take a pause and wonder what could have my mom been if she wasn't

00:36:34.800 you know focused entirely on us and now we have options too okay i take back options i think people

00:36:41.040 are kind of triggered and i say options right but maybe there's more to being a woman than just purely

00:36:48.720 motherhood and well i don't disagree with you i don't think you if you decide you do the calculus

00:36:55.920 on your life and decide hey i don't want to have kids that's fine and i like there's a lot of push

00:37:01.920 i think in certain like more conservative traditional circles to be like you need to have a kid you need to

00:37:07.600 have a kid you need it you need to have a kid and i look granted i do think that there is a sentiment

00:37:12.800 out there of like hey a lot of people are like not wanting to have kids maybe some of those people

00:37:19.040 are have been misdirected or might be confused but i do think there are people out there who have

00:37:24.000 actually just done a self-assessment of themselves and they're like maybe they're just really self-aware

00:37:29.920 and they're like yeah i don't think i'd be a good parent therefore i don't i'm not gonna have kids

00:37:33.680 or some people are incapable of having kids um so if i i personally don't object to someone

00:37:40.160 if they don't want to have kids i think that's fine but you know teach their own i guess what do

00:37:46.800 you think are valid reasons not to have kids what are some valid reasons to not have kids like well

00:37:52.560 i mean it could be a temperamental thing if temperamentally you think you would

00:37:55.920 potentially like if you think you'd be a bad parent that's a bad parent how huh a bad parent

00:38:03.200 how uh hold on let me let this come out donated one hundred dollars yeah remember a plaque i saw

00:38:09.280 once marriage isn't finding the right person it's becoming the right person i love that yes yeah okay

00:38:17.600 yeah sounds like my next tattoo i'm just kidding it's a new live laugh love i have no tattoos but

00:38:25.280 so to answer your question what what are some reasons why someone shouldn't have kids i mean

00:38:30.720 if if you just think you wouldn't be a good parent or if you genuinely want to for example you think

00:38:37.280 that having children would and there's arguments gets against what i'm about to say but if if you have

00:38:44.640 some ideal or goal that you're trying to pursue and you think kids would be a detriment to you achieving

00:38:50.640 said goal or said achievement that could be i think that's a valid reason to not have kids of

00:38:56.240 course the counter argument to that is well when you're 90 uh and you're on your deathbed or even

00:39:03.760 younger let's say uh you're probably not going to be remembering all those late nights that you spent

00:39:08.560 at work and like those are probably not going to be the cherished moments that you think about but

00:39:12.960 um some people are very achievement driven so that could be a reason and also here's the other

00:39:19.920 thing that a lot of people say well isn't isn't life going to be lonely if you don't have kids but

00:39:25.120 having kids doesn't preclude you from having a lonely life either because you could have kids

00:39:29.760 and they could be i think one fear at least for me for example when it comes to having kids what if

00:39:34.880 your kid's a fuck up like a degenerate drug addict like you know just aren't you going to tell them

00:39:43.040 not to do drugs well i mean you can i don't think that's a good i don't think that's effective in a

00:39:47.840 lot of cases well i mean well like tell them why like it's going to ruin your life you're probably

00:39:51.120 gonna be broke do you think that's all it do you think that's all it takes to ensure that the child

00:39:56.160 doesn't end up doing drugs granted no i i i of course think growing up in like a loving household and

00:40:02.880 having uh being raised right can certainly have a very strong country contributing factor to the

00:40:08.640 way you turn out however i'm sure like there's people that were raised in otherwise normal

00:40:13.760 households and they still whether they're they still end up uh straying in either you know crime

00:40:20.480 or drugs or whatever it may be so you just had somebody on your show recently i was watching an

00:40:24.960 episode and there was a girl who was like you know raised in like this christian household and you

00:40:29.120 know had great family values in the whole nine yards and it sounds like she was a sex worker

00:40:32.800 so you know like it doesn't matter how amazing your parents were how much structure you had

00:40:37.280 sometimes it does the opposite it makes you kind of rebel because it was so structured

00:40:41.120 so yeah yeah that is true there's i think there's certainly that but brian can i make a comment about

00:40:47.120 the last thing you were talking about um so when it comes to you mentioned achievement i think ultimate

00:40:52.640 achievement in life would be leaving a legacy that you are proud of not just professionally though it would

00:40:58.880 be with children so to me i guess my question to you i'm sorry i forgot your name would be you

00:41:04.080 mentioned you didn't want to have children correct okay i guess what is the point of life to you then

00:41:10.640 if you don't want to have children is it just to be here and have a grand old time and then it's all

00:41:15.760 over i mean don't you want to leave some kind of a impactful legacy that will continue on for

00:41:20.880 generations and generations i would not want it if my legacy is passing on a chronic illness so it's like

00:41:27.040 we are talking about this and it's all external oh hold on just banana deep nine donated one hundred

00:41:33.360 dollars i know too many young 21 to 23 year old moms that are clubbing hoeing around doing pills

00:41:41.440 it's so sad and disgusting they care more about living their life than enjoying being the mom of their

00:41:47.280 child baby daddies are trash too it's a shame for the child's yo banana deep hey thank you for the tts

00:41:54.800 appreciate it uh yeah i mean there's definitely i i think for both men and women there's definitely

00:41:59.040 a lot of that going on people uh being absentee parents are just not really giving it the appropriate

00:42:04.080 focus that it needs um so and let me just trigger this really quick and then we'll come back to you

00:42:08.720 valdiv hey thank you for the 50 appreciate it if you'll want a good giggle go watch britney venti's

00:42:13.280 new video hard trolling that old nerd rollo side note i once saved brian from a ravenous flock of birds

00:42:20.240 uh this is true valdiv did in fact save me from some pelicans uh go ahead oh so the question is uh

00:42:27.920 what would what would be my legacy you're talking about a illness like passing down an illness do you

00:42:32.720 yeah so what would the purpose of your life be without leaving a legacy behind you i would go back to

00:42:39.520 just finding out who i'm supposed to be the thing is we focus on the external what about going back into

00:42:45.600 the individual like in my experience i have um i have an autoimmune disease that i would not want to

00:42:51.840 pass on right so obviously having kids that's definitely out of the picture because i don't

00:42:57.360 want someone else suffering like i do so i need to have a different perspective on how i would enrich my

00:43:03.120 life if you don't mind me asking what is the autoimmune um it's hashimoto's thyroiditis that's

00:43:09.120 related to thyroid yes right okay do you take you take medication to treat it yes okay and is it it's

00:43:16.160 uh heritable right it is is it like a pretty high chance of passing it down to your kids or either

00:43:23.440 you pass it on you kind of die giving birth so oh you can yes it increases your risk of uh mortality is

00:43:30.640 it when uh in childbirth it does yeah if you have hashimoto's i didn't know that okay i also think that um

00:43:37.520 personally i do want to have kids like i i'm so close to my sister she already has she's pregnant

00:43:42.720 and she so i have baby fever and we're never my um my nephew's like my best friend like i absolutely

00:43:49.680 adore him would want anything and i got super baby fever and um but i feel like as a woman there's more

00:43:57.760 than give i i do believe that women can leave a legacy like you can like um like um there's an orphanage

00:44:04.880 in tj that i that that i really it's it's not mine but i asked one of my ex-boyfriends if he can get it

00:44:12.160 for me because they were going to shut it down and um that's a big thing for me and also like right now

00:44:18.560 like i'm um writing a book on domestic violence because i think domestic violence is big in my

00:44:23.600 community and it's going to be in spanish so that's something that you know if if god doesn't give me

00:44:29.840 children for whatever reason um you know i i know that i'm going to leave something for my community

00:44:36.160 because um you know a lot of them don't believe in therapy or it wasn't big and you know it just

00:44:42.400 wasn't taught to them it was just tough it out don't cry uh or go to church and that's it you know and

00:44:48.640 so you know there's other ways i believe that you know you can leave a legacy you know but definitely

00:44:53.600 i understand that some women you know they have that baby fever and whatever happens happens and

00:44:58.960 there's so many women that can't have kids too that try that do ibf and all these other things that

00:45:03.200 literally just it's not successful so i want to make sure that i honor those women that you do leave a

00:45:08.080 legacy even if you can't have children yes most definitely and that's a great point autoimmune

00:45:11.920 diseases things of that nature you know unable to have children for some reason 100 yes but if you are

00:45:17.680 of of able to have children i guess that would be in my mind the most important legacy that a woman

00:45:24.480 who's able to child bear could leave well is your life not worth living because you have an autoimmune

00:45:28.640 disease wait what it is of course but like i wouldn't have to um wait we were talking about

00:45:35.680 motherhood though yeah so you're saying like you don't have kids yes i don't want to have kids you

00:45:39.680 don't want to pass down exactly well isn't your life still worth living even with your disease

00:45:44.800 it is that's why i'm going out of my way to enrich my own life not having to focus on motherhood

00:45:51.360 is it our life it kind of sounds like a heart issue just people don't want to have kids because

00:45:55.360 they're selfish no like i want to focus on me my own story me me me yeah but i don't think like we are

00:46:01.680 here just because we are supposed to leave a like a legacy like how about me today right now in the moment

00:46:08.000 so my my life and my moment is not about what i'm passing to the future maybe there is no future

00:46:14.720 maybe this is it that's it we're all gonna die and it's end of the world so my life is about what

00:46:19.680 is it that i'm doing today and what type of energy and vibration i'm sending out are you saying that

00:46:24.960 women are selfish if they don't have kids okay i'm saying people who think a good enough reason is oh

00:46:31.280 what kids gonna get in the way of me doing whatever i want to do to make myself look cool or just to live

00:46:37.280 my life and not have any real responsibility i think more power to them yeah that's a choice

00:46:43.680 that's a choice i think people should have a choice and those people should not like i want to choose

00:46:47.760 to have a kid or not have a kid like we can have choose what kind of career we want to have right okay

00:46:53.280 we should be able to choose what kind of lifestyle we want what kind of marriage we want what kind of

00:46:58.880 relationship we want do we want to have kid or we don't want to have kid it should be a choice

00:47:03.200 like like we all should have that okay just a quick question with all due respect so if

00:47:10.080 if you didn't have the autoimmune disease would you want to have kids um still no why

00:47:17.360 because i would focus on myself i mean i could see chat here you know yes and it's easy to throw

00:47:23.120 around the word selfish but if you go a little bit and um let's say let's read up a little bit like

00:47:29.440 i think it's worth it to know who you are as a person selfish doesn't have to be a bad day i know

00:47:34.000 exactly that's my point it's like i applaud everyone for wanting oh sorry oh underscore guy

00:47:40.960 underscore in underscore canada donated 99 dollars after 25 years i learned the wedding is not the end

00:47:47.920 of the journey but the start if you look at your partner and don't see your best friend don't get

00:47:54.320 married i like that yeah well guy in canada thank you very much appreciate it appreciate it um i have

00:48:00.400 a couple more points on marriage but you wanted to continue with your point okay my train of thought

00:48:06.160 oh not getting not having kids even if i didn't have yeah an autoimmune disease oh okay focusing on

00:48:12.240 myself well in general focusing on individual as i was saying you know you guys i love hearing that you

00:48:19.040 want to contribute to community right outwards but i feel there is merit to getting to know who you are

00:48:26.560 as a person finding that out first before you know doing a lot of external stuff like how am i supposed

00:48:34.160 to help myself how am i supposed to help uh help others if i don't know who i am exactly if i don't

00:48:40.640 know what i could bring to the table but don't you think you can learn a lot about yourself by being

00:48:44.960 a mother but most of the mothers that i know they're like born again people they are like

00:48:50.880 have completely found themselves i frankly do think that it is selfish of women who are of

00:48:56.720 childbearing age and are able to do so who choose not to have children i i do think that that's selfish

00:49:02.080 not in your case i do completely understand where you're coming from but i i do think it's selfish

00:49:07.280 but why am i definitely girl boss and i get it but at the same time like oh you know what i think we

00:49:11.520 were sold this lie of like yeah do whatever men can do rise up the ranks in the corporate ladder

00:49:16.240 and all that and i'm like well why is everyone so unhappy like it doesn't really make sense yeah

00:49:20.000 it creates a much bigger problem because we're facing a huge population decline that's absolutely

00:49:25.200 rapidly declining we will not continue on as a species in the way that we have known it so far

00:49:30.560 if women continue to choose to just be boss babes all the time they're not mutually exclusive you can go

00:49:36.560 and have a career and then have children as well you can do both things that you can do it yeah but

00:49:41.760 but having a choice of being a boss babe but what it has anything to do with having a kid or not yeah

00:49:47.040 it's like two different options yeah you don't have to do like let's say i'm a boss but your personal

00:49:52.880 matter having a baby bringing a baby to this world is completely another like a different aspect of your

00:49:59.440 life so it has nothing to do with like together i yeah i definitely want to say like i would encourage you

00:50:05.040 guys to refrain from being so general about like all women are selfish if they don't have kids

00:50:09.920 because there's so many reasons selfless reasons why women don't have kids i was in the army for 16

00:50:15.280 years as an example and so you know i did that for the bulk of my career and there's so many women

00:50:20.800 flying planes diffusing bombs you know there's a lot of examples of why a woman would choose

00:50:26.640 service or a lot of other factors over having children so women are not just on the earth to be baby

00:50:31.520 makers um when there's women that can't have kids that you know prefer themselves uh you know their

00:50:37.680 their well-being their happiness whatever genetic things whatever you know so i think i would just

00:50:42.720 encourage you to lean in there and like not generalize all women as selfish if they choose not

00:50:46.400 to have kids i'm including both sexes by the way not just not just women oh yeah either way but also

00:50:51.600 you have a good point saying like you were in the army for 16 years that makes sense why you didn't have a

00:50:56.000 kid but the essence of being unselfish is you dedicating yourself to this country so it's the

00:51:01.760 same idea it's not with a child but you are still giving up what you can to serve other people so

00:51:08.640 actually you think adding people to the planet is serving that's not what i said but because you said

00:51:15.600 serving other people like like so you're you're putting in your time and your effort and you are

00:51:20.240 serving people and you chose to do it in the army which is really great other people do that and

00:51:26.640 they choose to add to society by having a child that they raise up to be like a good helpful human

00:51:33.120 being yeah there's a lot of women that should have to have no business having kids too no business of

00:51:38.560 course there's a lot of people why are we just saying women guys there's some there's some men who

00:51:41.920 shouldn't have kids either well men men cannot push out children but i think the oh yeah care for

00:51:46.160 children the bulk of the um the conversation has been about like because you guys said that women

00:51:50.240 are selfish if they don't have kids uh by choice and not women both genders okay i think i might have

00:51:56.560 said that but yes somebody said it that's why i'm that's why i'm reacting to it but yeah so i yeah i

00:52:02.720 definitely think that um by making it like an intelligent choice she she said i don't want to have kids and

00:52:10.320 she has a reason but i think that with some women say i don't hold on just a second one hundred dollars

00:52:17.440 personally i wouldn't want to see people forced into having and raising children who are fully

00:52:22.400 committed in doing so we have enough messed up people in this world we don't need to add more

00:52:29.200 how do we fix that i agree how do you fix this i think there's a deeper rooted issue

00:52:33.360 oh you have like how would you fix that yeah okay you have a son okay got it okay uh that was a plot

00:52:40.720 twist okay so um so as i was saying um there's definitely some people that some women that

00:52:50.160 haven't made that like choice where they don't that where they're not financially ready mentally capable

00:52:56.720 or even have the empathy to be mothers and they still have children and then we have

00:53:06.080 them um when i was younger they have as like caseworkers we they have like you know they bring

00:53:12.640 these mothers in and it's chaos what the the cruelty the negligence the abandonment that these people

00:53:20.800 do to do to these kids is traumatizing even to me i don't work with children because of that reason

00:53:28.560 is because i can see what these mothers do so i think that to in order to do that i think that it

00:53:34.480 should be more of an intelligent choice that some mothers should not have children that because they

00:53:40.640 just can't be proper mothers because they're they have you know whatever mental illness mood mood

00:53:48.480 disorders personality disorders or whatever and they are actually causing more being more um harm

00:53:55.280 than they're causing good good to the children and i do have some friends that you know they decided

00:54:01.040 to climb the corp the corporate ladder and good for them i personally do want children and that but

00:54:07.600 that's my choice and do i think i'm capable yes i am i'm ready for kids and this is something that you

00:54:13.200 know that i hope it's gonna happen too because i know how old i am now but you know what i mean but

00:54:18.400 i definitely think that not all women should be mothers first sure not all women should be

00:54:25.200 mothers because of the cruelty that they can do to these kids and it can happen in one minute and

00:54:30.400 they have destroyed these children's lives and to heal from that it it maybe never sam donated 99 oh

00:54:39.200 thanks thank you the decision to not of kids is not always a selfish decision raising kids is extremely

00:54:45.680 expensive nowadays when you include the rising costs of living it takes longer for men to be

00:54:51.200 financially stable so how can you say it's selfish you're stupid hey alvin sam much appreciated thank

00:54:57.920 you for the uh tts thank you man um i have a take on the marriage thing uh so i actually think now this

00:55:06.720 is a different conversation than having kids because you can have kids with someone not be married with

00:55:10.720 them you can have a long-term relationship you can have a lifelong relationship with someone

00:55:15.520 and not be married uh i don't think men should get married i'll take just wait so just women should

00:55:22.240 marry each other tell me more brian as why not well let's unpack that together well okay no trauma dumping

00:55:33.680 i i'm a man so i'm speaking kind of on behalf of men i don't think men should get married because

00:55:41.600 of the financial ramifications of divorce well that's what prenups are for yeah prenups constantly

00:55:47.520 get thrown out what about women who make money than men he also got the opposite how about when the

00:55:52.080 man comes after you there's a lot of women that make more money than i know lots of women that they

00:55:56.240 are financially responsible to pay the man you know a lot of women that are paying well it is it is

00:56:02.720 changing a little bit i have done that myself congrats how much do you you you said you hold on

00:56:07.840 let's let's talk about your situation you were married for 14 years correct i did not work when

00:56:13.040 i was married oh zero and then two years after my divorce he opened the case for child support based

00:56:20.480 and then and then uh because um i kind of have a like an interesting life story and over like within

00:56:29.520 a year i became like uh over a year like i had companies that they were making multi-million

00:56:34.560 dollars and then when he found out that i'm making money he came after me he opened the case

00:56:39.520 and then quality yeah um wait okay uh hold on so you were how long are you still paying alimony no after

00:56:49.760 they were 18 years old after they were 18 years old i stopped oh after the kids kids were well that's

00:56:56.320 child support child support no no no i only paid child support you didn't pay alimony okay even

00:57:01.840 though you were married for were you married in california yes he did he attempt to go for alimony

00:57:07.760 uh i can't remember what's the time limit to be married for alimony well the she was married a

00:57:15.040 long time but i was married very long time and i never worked in that 14 years i worked after my divorce

00:57:20.800 okay interesting yeah i'm sure it's complicated by that yes so but you were paying him child support

00:57:28.720 yes how much were you paying in child support 70 000 a year okay wow why didn't he go for alimony i

00:57:35.680 mean okay maybe maybe he wasn't able to i did everything in order not to pay him oh okay there you

00:57:42.240 go there you go okay well i will say this while there while it is certainly the case that some women

00:57:47.200 will pay men child support or alimony my understanding is that 90 of child support

00:57:52.160 payments go from men to women and 97 of alimony payments go from men to women so um i suppose if

00:58:00.720 you're a woman and you're making a ton of money to be fair in the court system there is a bias against

00:58:06.960 men however like you will if you're the breadwinner as a woman you might be you're still gonna if your

00:58:14.000 husband wants to he can go after you for alimony and child support if they were children uh but in

00:58:18.720 any case if you're a man and you're the breadwinner which is still the majority of relationships uh i

00:58:24.640 don't recommend it for men so i don't think men should get married brian what's your vetting process

00:58:31.040 for dating people what do you mean what's your what's your like how do you how do you determine

00:58:35.840 taken engaged what's your deal well actually i kind of want to shoot my shot so um ariana grande

00:58:40.320 hide that ariana grande so so actually um sigh right yes i have mild hypothyroidism so if you

00:58:48.880 really want to fuck up our kids maybe we just saying just saying that's perfect that's a perfect

00:58:54.160 combo all right okay um good times but uh what what was the question uh i was just asking your dating

00:59:02.400 status you didn't share yours uh as a man of god i do not reveal my situation okay all right well that's

00:59:08.240 that's the tone for the rest of what i'm gonna say on this show there you go but uh no when it comes

00:59:12.880 to marriage what what was your question over here my question was how do you vet people to date and

00:59:17.920 pursue a relationship because wouldn't you be able to catch like oh she's just after me for my money

00:59:22.160 she doesn't actually take an interest in me but okay here's the thing more than 50 of marriages end

00:59:27.280 in divorce so do you think that of all the people that get married do you think going into marriage

00:59:32.720 they're thinking yeah i'm probably going to get divorced within three years she thought that

00:59:36.960 yeah but like how many people who get married they're on their wedding day they probably think

00:59:42.080 yeah this is it this is the one this is for life and then one year two year three years go by things

00:59:48.080 change who knows what finances can change that's a big reason for divorces financial financials um

00:59:54.960 most people when they get married probably aren't anticipating that they're going to get divorced

01:00:00.000 so how many people are in that position of thinking i've properly vetted this person they're i'm in

01:00:06.000 love they're amazing and then they're divorced yeah even religious people yes i was i was religious and

01:00:14.800 like i had no desire to be divorced because i just want to be a good kid for my mom and dad

01:00:20.160 society and family and everyone and then i realized i'm completely sacrificing myself and completely

01:00:26.400 creating another identity for someone else so then i decided to walk out yeah well i think one thing

01:00:33.600 um and i i've written this down so and maybe some of you might agree with this men marry women with

01:00:40.400 the hope they will never change women marry men with the hope they will change invariably they are both

01:00:49.120 disappointed um so you know in the military 80 of people get divorced but what i do want to say

01:00:56.800 but when it comes to the military there's some there's certain financial benefits well that's

01:01:00.240 what i was going to say so like when you're talking about your data that you just presented

01:01:04.560 like 50 of marriages end in divorce there's a few things i just want you to consider that skew the data

01:01:09.360 so uh there's financial incentives in the military so or even like living arrangements so if you live on

01:01:14.880 base and you're married you have the option to live off base which is preferable for a number of

01:01:18.960 reasons so people do that but then you also get paid more money if you're married because you have

01:01:23.120 a dependent now on your record so the army gives you or all the military services give you more money

01:01:27.040 so people quickly get divorced but it's an incentivized thing to do that then the other

01:01:31.440 thing is religious so like mormons is an example they can't date they can't have sex without

01:01:35.760 getting married so they get married so they are in the eyes of god okay to have sex and that's true of

01:01:40.800 a lot of religions and so in order to break up with that person and get a new partner they have

01:01:45.440 to get a divorce so there's a lot of things skewing true actual marriage uh that you should just

01:01:50.880 definitely consider in that you mentioned the religious thing though i i i would say though that

01:01:57.200 if you were to compare that cohort of people who are very religious and they didn't have sex prior to

01:02:04.720 getting married and the stats are way lower like i would i'm pretty sure that the divorce rate amongst

01:02:10.240 people who are have a either very low uh prior uh sexual partners prior to marriage or who are

01:02:16.000 virgins is very very low compared to the general population um it is so it's plausible that there's

01:02:24.800 there's religious people out there who are getting married because they so desperately want to have

01:02:30.480 sex and then they're just going to get divorced to have a new part but i mean that has to be a very

01:02:35.680 small proportion of that's not the of people who are religious who are getting divorced i mean i knew

01:02:41.040 a lot like my my mother my family was mormon when i was growing up and it was like every every couple

01:02:47.120 i could think of when i was growing up that was mormon was doing that yeah well they were getting divorced

01:02:52.240 yeah to switch partners yeah because like really because like as early as 17 16 17 they were getting

01:02:57.040 married so they could have sex as a you know with their partner uh or their families were like forcing like

01:03:01.520 you know pushing them to get married so that it there are any kind of contact relationship wise

01:03:05.600 is approved you know by the religion standards but you know as we do when we date we shop around

01:03:11.040 partners like to see who we truly jive with and so it's kind of an unfortunate scenario where they're

01:03:15.360 kind of backed into this quarter of having to get a divorce just to switch relationships well i mean the

01:03:19.680 other thing though is that you mentioned that while there are women now who are paying child support

01:03:23.520 and alimony but even i actually saw a statistic that said women who are high earners who earn more than

01:03:30.640 their partner they're more likely to diver divorce their partner so my position changes so i had money

01:03:39.040 after my divorce so but that makes it hard for me to date men right now because you're successful and

01:03:46.480 yes it makes it very very like complicated yeah but like for me for example as someone who's

01:03:53.360 successful and high earner and like the prospect of marrying a woman and then losing half my is

01:04:00.000 not particularly appealing and i mean there's there's a whole there's custody disputes i mean my

01:04:06.320 encouragement to both men and women is go to your local courthouse wherever you live go find the

01:04:12.320 family when there there's a uh family proceedings or divorce proceedings and just sit and watch the case

01:04:19.440 that is so depressing like it is the and especially custody disputes are brutal it's one years in court

01:04:29.040 yeah even the ones even the ones where there's no children involved it's still so contentious but

01:04:34.320 when there's kids involved then you're risking getting when kids get involved then there's a

01:04:42.000 there's a likelihood well not a likelihood there's a there's definitely a lot of reports of false

01:04:47.760 accusations being levied against men of all sorts of things in or in an effort to leverage uh those false

01:04:55.440 accusations to get a better outcome when it comes to getting custody of children so um and there's a

01:05:01.520 bias in the court system against men so i don't think men should get married for those reasons now

01:05:06.880 if we were to do away with alimony and child well i don't think we should do away with child support but

01:05:13.120 i do think there should be a just a a limit on child support there's there's no reason you should

01:05:19.120 anyone even if you're very wealthy you should be paying ten thousand dollars a month in child support

01:05:23.680 that i can get behind that i agree with because like i like this whole case with uh kevin costner

01:05:28.480 his wife getting like 150 000 a month like what do you need that for like uh you know like go buy a

01:05:34.720 house you can get one in a gated community anywhere in the country and not need 150 000 a month like

01:05:39.920 that's like crazy i agree yeah and here's the other thing that i think they should do um in the same way

01:05:44.880 with uh like food stamp programs like they give you a credit card cal fresh it's different in different

01:05:50.160 states um food benefits from the government they give you a card you can only purchase food with

01:05:56.560 with that card that they give you i think it should be the same with if with child support you should

01:06:02.160 only be able to purchase child related um expenses women who want a huge and expensive wedding 40k and

01:06:10.480 up for reference they are usually so selfish and entitled that they just disregard their partner's

01:06:16.000 decisions if the woman does not get what she wants oh yeah definitely if you're gonna get married like

01:06:22.880 50 bucks that's that's my thing wow yeah i will say that the whole wedding industry is like kind of

01:06:29.840 feeding off it they're driving that up they're like a wedding dress just to get a basic wedding like

01:06:33.680 as soon as people vendors hear the word wedding their price is double triple quadruple and it's like

01:06:38.080 you just have to almost lie about like what the event it's a bar mitzvah and then it's like cheaper you

01:06:42.080 know what i mean like it's apartments but don't worry about it yeah you know i mean it's catered

01:06:45.440 to women you know so it's like it's a woman's day i have to say yeah weddings i i can't see it's

01:06:51.360 fiscally irresponsible in my mind yeah so say forty thousand dollars that's a down payment on a house

01:06:55.680 yeah i do have maybe that's unromantic but i'd rather go to bali for like two months or something

01:07:00.240 yeah let's go let's go real quick how much would you we'll go around the table on this for those of you

01:07:06.560 if you want to play along but for those of you who want to get married um how much do you think your

01:07:11.120 partner should spend on the wedding ring when proposing i i truly don't care about how much

01:07:21.600 uh because i live the life with lots of up and down so like you know what i'm wearing is not going

01:07:27.600 to value is this like uh-huh no like i truly this is like from amazon it's like 20 bucks like would that

01:07:34.560 do it you think no the thing is i really don't care because like i value my relationship so much because

01:07:40.400 i live the very up and down you know lifestyle so my deep connection my like who i'm with and

01:07:48.720 if it's loyal if it's feeding my soul if it's like creating uh meaning to my life is my priority i don't

01:07:55.280 care about the ring okay what about you how much should part potential partner spend on the ring i'm the

01:08:00.640 same i kind of like what she said i am the same exact way i um i've already lived a i've had boyfriends with

01:08:09.360 high net worth and very low net like literally like college so i've seen both sites so i'm not i

01:08:18.720 really don't care now like i'm not paid so okay your boyfriend proposes to you with a 20 a 20 ring from

01:08:28.640 amazon you you're fine with it i am yeah okay all right hey can i have something so hold on well

01:08:34.800 before you do that let's let everybody answer go ahead so i uh love the plastic like i forgot

01:08:40.720 they're called but they're like they're really uh friendly for like weight lifters and people are

01:08:45.040 in the military arms yeah they're like a plastic band like i would be happy with that honestly like

01:08:49.040 i'm more more invested in my relationship being quality than the ring being quality i not on the price

01:08:56.240 but more on their creativity like why would if somebody could make something then yeah that's

01:09:01.920 good if it's like a tattoo maybe buy someone who's like legendary from a certain tribe why not oh sorry

01:09:10.320 um i feel like if it's a 20 amazon ring i feel like that directly speaks about how like he feels about

01:09:16.720 you i feel like if he really loved you he would try a little harder there okay so bare minimum how much

01:09:22.400 should he spend on the ring a couple thousand i would say a couple thousand on the ring yeah what

01:09:27.280 five thousand um three thousand three thousand five thousand okay you wouldn't object what what about

01:09:34.480 like twenty thousand i mean i wouldn't object but that's kind of a lot but like keep in mind you're

01:09:40.400 about to become you're you're about to marry this person um your finances are going to be enmeshed together

01:09:47.440 so that is twenty thousand that is coming out of what could potentially be spent on something a bit

01:09:54.240 more literally with a bit more utility but in any case that's fine what about you um i would say i i

01:10:02.640 do agree with what you've said i would like to see some effort you know a couple grand yeah okay nothing

01:10:08.400 crazy i'm gonna come out and say it 100k i'm totally kidding i was getting no honestly um i think the

01:10:20.960 effort stop it get some help go ahead just a joke just a joke must get roasted like a marshmallow in

01:10:27.920 the comments what's the number uh i would say it's a reflection of how much he's investing in me

01:10:35.280 probably we should talk about like future plans like are we buying a house what do we want to spend

01:10:41.040 that i think talking about it would be great but the ring itself doesn't matter that much like the

01:10:45.760 dollar value i it's also really tacky to talk about prices like people be like oh this is 100k ring

01:10:52.160 okay that's really weird that you said that okay yeah it's like wasting 100k on something that you could

01:10:57.040 buy a house or go on a honeymoon i don't think spending like 50 grand on a ring is smart

01:11:04.960 i think it's really dumb but also don't spend like five dollars on a ring so five to ten i would

01:11:12.880 say was it supposed to be like three months salary or something that's that was that was a marketing

01:11:18.400 campaign that was a fierce marketing campaign like fifty thousand dollars yeah it was a market

01:11:22.480 it's a fierce marketing campaign yeah and like even diamonds 20 bucks yeah it depends to what

01:11:27.280 agreement you guys have together and what is your financial status yeah i want my girl to know that

01:11:32.160 i care yeah but i'm also like not that much yeah all right like you know we're gonna buy a house and

01:11:37.120 stuff well wasn't like the diamond industry like just marketed so people will spend more money like

01:11:41.440 is it really how that became a symbol of love yeah i think we got tricked in that too yeah you know buy

01:11:46.240 this really expensive rock because it means you love her and if you don't you don't love her i have this really

01:11:50.560 close couple friend who uh have been together for like 25 years and she has the same ring from when

01:11:56.160 they were both broke and they're billionaires now and she still has the same old ring should you no i

01:12:01.120 think she's so cute that she is like it's like yeah it's the same ring from when they were broke yeah

01:12:08.160 i love it yeah so i think um one thing that i want to say is that like i feel like no matter sometimes

01:12:14.880 like when they show how much they invest in you just from like experience i did have someone who

01:12:20.560 was i'm not going to say how much but um he would invest a lot into me but i think that was one of my

01:12:28.080 unhappiest relationships i was ever in so like now i just feel like sometimes what how much money he

01:12:36.240 invest in you does it equal um how much they um respect or how much they love you um take this with

01:12:44.560 a grain of salt but that's to me just like an experience like just from an experience i think it's more

01:12:50.800 of like the sentimental values that they put how much they listen to your um how much they know about

01:12:56.640 you and how much they put like if they know that you like a certain like pillow like the pillow or the

01:13:02.400 cushion i'm sorry i gotta move this on okay we have but yeah banana deep hey thank you man

01:13:07.120 sorry not sorry i hate adult content especially nowadays with children having easy access to it

01:13:11.680 all my fy for you page on any social media is half naked girls sexualizing themselves that's

01:13:17.520 why i deleted all social media no no matter what followed it's all naked girls okay i mean definitely

01:13:22.880 the algorithms on all these platforms are definitely gonna start pushing that so uh it's what keeps

01:13:28.720 the eyeballs on the apps thank you banana we have doc vanablis here one sec marriage is not

01:13:35.280 necessarily about happiness first it serves the benefit of the children second helps you find

01:13:41.200 meaning and personal growth white coat you will end up with multiple divorces and lots of cats

01:13:46.560 oh my god yeah do you have a response to doc vanablis here yeah i'm not looking uh i'm not looking

01:13:52.240 to be married again she's gonna cry into her dollar bills she'll like wear tears well and cats

01:13:57.520 are great for the record no i love cats and i'm perfectly fine actually i'm very content if i

01:14:02.400 don't meet someone that i'm aligned with i can live on my own i have a beautiful life

01:14:06.880 and then um i'm perfectly fine if i have to stay alone into the mic please i'm perfectly fine if i

01:14:12.080 stay all alone okay um we have let me do oh another reminder this stream is sponsored by

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01:15:17.200 marriage thing here so look my whole thing when it comes to marriage is you do not sign a contract

01:15:22.640 with someone who is rewarded for breaking it and in today's day and age women are rewarded

01:15:28.560 financially for breaking the marriage contract so no sane informed man ought to should would could

01:15:35.360 whatever sign that contract in my opinion you know that uh singer kelly uh like she's like i

01:15:42.080 forget her last name uh she was on like american idol kelly clarkson yeah thank you her husband was

01:15:48.240 basically a nobody he's bankrolling off of her and he broke it based why do you say that what that

01:15:55.120 he's getting out oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i think it's and her like ranch or something like that's messed

01:16:00.000 up if you see that story wait what happened yeah i think it has nothing to do with man i think he filed

01:16:04.320 for divorce and he's like just loose energy donated 99 these 304s got some nerve stop the damn cap

01:16:14.240 you know yao will leave your simps on the same day if they didn't spend serious cash on that ring slash

01:16:19.760 wedding the name fits

01:16:26.320 okay

01:16:26.640 okay i thought somebody had something to say oh no we're just talking about kelly clarkson how

01:16:43.680 she's getting worked by her ex-husband shout out kelly

01:16:46.800 yeah it's good it's good so it's okay when men do it yeah that's what he's saying

01:16:53.360 it's okay he got like a farm in montana like i mean you're a man doing it yeah it's just kind of

01:17:00.000 like you know this is what you wanted these are the alimony laws although i don't know that's not a

01:17:06.880 good argument but uh okay so hold on i i wanted to come back to you you said you've been single for

01:17:13.600 six years correct yes you do you do adult content is that correct i don't like adult content i do

01:17:21.520 cosplay spicy cosplay do you have like an exclusive site no i don't you don't i have okay define it

01:17:28.880 define exclusive like are you either on fansly or of or i have fansly i do but i don't do nudes um i'm

01:17:36.800 mostly on cosplay so there's no zero zero oh okay oh wow okay wow look guys this is this is

01:17:47.520 a panel where we don't have it i don't think any girl here does of that is i don't think we've had

01:17:54.720 a panel in a long time where there wasn't at least one girl who did some some kind of adult

01:18:00.960 kind of content so that is fantastic okay wait why was the question directed just at me though

01:18:06.640 he's trying to have a kid with you whoa i'm trying to not have kids with her so we can not have

01:18:14.320 super kids with super fucked up thyroids um don't worry i got mine's kind of you know um

01:18:21.760 it'd be mostly your fault though just saying if we mostly

01:18:24.880 yeah is that is it insensitive that i'm joking about your my what hashima does my what you have

01:18:30.480 thick what huh yeah go on is it is it insensitive you're making it awkward like let's move on to the

01:18:35.920 next one no but is it insensitive it's not i don't feel it's my reality you got my reality you got thick

01:18:41.600 skin okay all right so some of you very kindly provided some pre-show notes to us so we're gonna

01:18:49.040 do a little deep dive uh helen you're in your actually hold on i'm gonna save that for later

01:18:56.560 i'll come back i'll come back to you um let's see we have we have nikki here i'm from la and the

01:19:06.560 women here might benefit from hearing a perspective that doesn't glorify only fans instagram plugging

01:19:13.520 clugging clubbing excuse me um did you what did you specifically want to speak about on that

01:19:22.080 oh interrupted donated 99 high gh volume man here feels cringe to type that i disagree on cheap rings

01:19:32.640 takes an ordinary woman and elevates her to the status of the man she is able to retain

01:19:37.840 as my income grows my wife's ring gets replaced gold and diamonds are investments

01:19:45.600 i disagree on cheap rings takes an ordinary woman and elevates her to the status of the man she's

01:19:51.120 okay i mean i don't think anyone's disagreeing with that but we're just saying like what's the

01:19:55.120 bare minimum that will accept but i mean if you're gifting me a big fancy ring i'm not gonna say no

01:20:00.240 but it's kind of like you know a lot of you said and i don't really care 20 ring fine

01:20:06.160 yeah but it would there's not you know you don't think there's some part of you that would feel it

01:20:12.000 would be a detriment if he didn't spend a certain amount on a ring well if he had the money he was

01:20:17.680 just choosing not to and which is like hey actually you don't deserve anything cooler than that like

01:20:21.840 what's his what's his attitude no even if he has the money but he's like this is waste this is some

01:20:26.400 propaganda from the fucking diamond industry that it's like some some ridiculous it's a psyop for us to

01:20:34.080 spend money on some diamonds the cost of diamonds are overinflated there there's an abundance of

01:20:40.800 diamonds they're not particularly rare blah blah whatever it is um what if it's just like yeah this

01:20:46.000 is a scam i'm not going to spend five thousand dollars on this when this probably costs like two

01:20:50.240 bucks yeah i like somebody uh i think in the chat had said like what if i made it like would you love

01:20:54.880 that and hell yeah like some kind of like sentimental value or maybe you have an inside joke with your

01:21:00.080 partner like my sister literally just got married this last weekend and um the engagement ring uh

01:21:04.800 with like a black stone that was really special to my sister and that's what she's gonna wear forever

01:21:09.280 so but a lot of you said you wouldn't care and i guess my next sem i don't know how long i want to

01:21:14.880 linger on this particular topic but if the guy didn't pay for the first date would you have an issue with

01:21:20.320 that yes yeah yeah i would here let's go around the table really quick we'll touch on it um if it

01:21:30.560 doesn't pay for the first date it depends like he wants to split the bill so it's not you're not paying

01:21:40.160 for him he just wants to split deal breaker you have an issue with it no second date

01:21:49.280 no second date no second date what about you yes i believe that a man should pay for like the first

01:21:56.400 date and i think that he should i i really like the traditional like first date he opens the door

01:22:02.720 and he's a gentleman i think that that that's what i place value in and him being a gentleman and him

01:22:09.040 paying for the first date but if he were to ask me to split i would split but yeah yeah i think it's

01:22:16.880 definitely uh appreciated if the man pays for the first date however if i don't like them i offer to

01:22:23.200 split because yeah and i will split because i would feel bad like using them which i'd never use anyone

01:22:28.080 for anything but like i would feel obligated because i don't like you i'm not going to see you again i'm

01:22:32.080 going to pay myself yeah me too i would prefer to split and honestly it depends on the conversation

01:22:37.760 like dinner is about conversation um i mean if he asked me on the day and he told me um to split

01:22:47.600 i'd probably take that as an insult and i would just probably like pay the whole thing and never see

01:22:52.560 him again so if the guy asks he should pay huh yeah if the guy asks he should pay does ever i think

01:22:59.280 most of you would agree with that yeah well but okay i'll come

01:23:02.880 oh okay um have you ever asked a guy out on a date uh no interesting how that works okay what about

01:23:11.840 you um it wouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker for me if he didn't pay for the first date but i

01:23:17.680 would prefer that to happen yes for if the guy pays okay what about you i'm looking to be a traditional

01:23:23.520 woman and i want my man to be traditional as well so no no splitting the no splitting the bill okay well

01:23:28.320 you currently have a boyfriend correct five five years i do yes do you guys live together we do yes

01:23:33.680 do you split the bills or do we sure do right down the middle 50 50 yes and then when it comes to like

01:23:38.160 dates you'll does he pay or it's kind of 50 50 there like he gets one you get one type of thing um

01:23:44.720 yeah sometimes we do do that you know i'll cover coffee one day he'll cover dinner the next something

01:23:49.120 like that um but most often we do split things 50 50 um we are an interesting situation i work he's

01:23:55.040 currently still going to school to be a pilot so it just works a little different he's not

01:23:59.920 currently making money right now in the way that i am okay all right yeah i'm an old school romantic so

01:24:07.520 i definitely would pay on the first date i mean if the girl asked me out maybe not but even then i'm

01:24:13.920 still like yeah i mean it's not that big of a deal so i think you should split the first day 100

01:24:20.880 split brian is starting to think you're cheap you don't want to pay for nothing you kind of don't

01:24:26.800 even know if you like each other you don't want to pay for nothing i kind of get where brian's

01:24:29.840 coming from i do raven dt donated 100 best way to weed out a woman who thinks her time is worth more

01:24:37.600 than yours first date separate checks if she still wants to see you for another date man pays for second

01:24:45.360 date third date she pays for it yeah that that's that's the thing you could do um yo raven thank

01:24:53.360 you man really appreciate the tts um definitely agree though first date absolutely separate checks

01:24:58.240 he does have a very good point though thank you raven of if it can be a way to screen out low interest

01:25:06.240 women like if you don't pay for the first obviously you you don't expect her to pay for you you pay for

01:25:12.880 your meal she pays for hers it is a way to screen out women who have a low interest in you because if

01:25:21.360 even maybe her standard is she does want a guy to pay for the first date but if she's so interested in

01:25:26.320 you that she's going to be like i still want to see him even even though he caught i here's my standard

01:25:31.760 but i still want to see him that's a very high interest woman in terms of her interest in you so

01:25:37.120 i think it's actually a good way to screen out uh women who have like low interest so

01:25:45.200 you were you were saying uh i was just gonna say i think i think women put a lot of effort into

01:25:49.520 first dates we have a bird in here it's like a hummingbird or something all right we have a hummingbird

01:25:56.720 in the each uh just uh nick open up the door a little more and then birds aren't real he flies

01:26:05.200 out all right what's the bird's name jeffrey hopefully the bird doesn't hit one of the lights

01:26:11.760 because if it does it's going to get fried and we're going to be eating we're going to be eating

01:26:16.480 bird tonight um so what were you saying you said i was gonna say uh well i just said i said it's just

01:26:22.800 starting to sound that way because you don't want to pay for much but um i yeah no rings no

01:26:26.800 weddings well then but but i mean if if we take that argument to its large logical conclusion then

01:26:32.400 like aren't 99 of women cheap because almost no women want to do any of these things that well i

01:26:37.520 disagree with that um like you know as an example when women go on a date the amount of effort it

01:26:42.400 puts into keeping their hair nice getting their hair done getting their nails done waxing shaving

01:26:47.280 makeup makeup is so expensive their outfit all of those things i mean it's expensive to get

01:26:52.720 ready for a man to be pleased by what they're looking at well yeah but don't women also say

01:26:58.800 that you guys wear makeup for yourselves i think some women do i don't agree with that so which is

01:27:05.200 you both i don't agree with that oh so you wear you wear makeup to be more attractive 100 yeah okay

01:27:10.800 well i appreciate your honesty most women aren't prepared to cop to that i guess but admit to it yeah but uh

01:27:18.000 uh as far as the effort that goes into preparing for the first date first off well actually one

01:27:25.040 i actually prefer women who wear minimal or no makeup so i'll maybe i'll tell a woman

01:27:29.840 yeah you don't really gotta wear any of that yeah but that's so rare i i feel like you know i mean i'm

01:27:34.720 more that way like you know i didn't wear makeup for a very very long time in uniform you know i didn't

01:27:39.440 get i had to kind of learn fashion and makeup and stuff when i left but that's a rare thing a lot of men

01:27:44.160 especially these days you know really want their women to be like social media models you know right

01:27:50.080 but okay as far as it being cheap like it's it's not about being cheap it's just that we as men as

01:27:55.920 at least me as a guy i don't want to waste my money on someone who doesn't deserve it and it's it's not

01:28:01.440 about the dollar figure it's like what 10 bucks for a drink whatever i don't care uh it's more about

01:28:06.560 a principle thing because i would feel bad in the same way like let's say someone stole ten dollars from

01:28:13.200 you what's ten dollars it doesn't really but they they've they've slighted you yeah they've done

01:28:19.440 something i'm not they've victimized you in a way i'm not i'm not comparing robbery to taking a girl

01:28:25.920 out out on a date but but it's it's not so much about the point i'm trying to make is it's not so

01:28:31.840 much about the actual dollar figure it's that you've been wronged in some way and let me okay this is

01:28:39.040 not i feel like i'm digging myself a hole here how many days you're talking because i don't think

01:28:43.280 you're if a girl's not interested if a girl's not interested in you

01:28:49.360 if a girl's not interested in you i don't think you're you've been wronged because she's not

01:28:53.520 interested that's not what i'm trying to say but like if you're on a date with a girl who perhaps has

01:28:59.360 for example if she's on a date with you for a foodie call then i think you've been wronged

01:29:05.040 where it's like she has some ulterior motive for her wanting to be on the date whether it's for

01:29:10.240 food whether sometimes people will go on the first date they'll do an experience together

01:29:14.640 some guys will put out a lot of money on the first date to try to impress a girl whatever it may be

01:29:19.600 um so for me it's more a principle thing like in in addition to that i would feel

01:29:26.800 i don't know if wronged is the right word but one of the reasons i don't like to pay on the first

01:29:30.720 date is the way people move both men and women in 2023 is you have to assume going in whether you're

01:29:37.840 a man or woman that that person you're seeing may very well be seeing multiple other people

01:29:43.440 uh so if i'm going on a date with a girl it could very well be the case that she's sleeping with one

01:29:48.720 two three other dudes maybe she's not sleeping with other men but maybe she's dating other men i've

01:29:54.960 been on dates with girls and i'm talking to them and i had one girl who's not particularly

01:29:59.520 remarkable in any way she said she had five dates scheduled that week oh that's weird i don't feel

01:30:04.640 particularly special i don't feel particularly inclined to fall into my traditional gender roles

01:30:10.160 of paying for the first date when you're pursuing so many other options yeah now especially if you're

01:30:14.560 if a woman is sleeping with another guy and you're going on a date with me and then i'm gonna pay for

01:30:19.440 your food you're gonna i've said this a couple times before here's like the scenario that's just like

01:30:24.960 crushing if i pay if i were to pay for a girl's food let's say we go on a dinner date which

01:30:29.360 i actually don't recommend dinner dates certainly for first dates it's for a variety of reasons

01:30:35.360 she gets a to-go bag with her extra food gives me an ass out hug at the end of the date oh it's nice

01:30:41.440 good day takes a little to-go bag brings it over you know the date ends at 10 9 pm 10 pm brings it to the

01:30:49.360 house of the dude who she's sleeping with who by the way never paid for took her out on a date gives him

01:30:56.400 the food which i paid for then she him then he eats the food that's like that's like this is oddly

01:31:03.200 is that what happened this is oddly that's like cut territory did this happen to you yeah this is so

01:31:08.400 specific how do you that was very specific well i think this happens i don't know i don't know if

01:31:14.400 it's happened is that keep in mind i i avoid food dates i've i've done occasional food dates especially

01:31:19.920 when i go food dates i want to run away if i don't like the guy as soon as possible i go to coffee

01:31:24.720 first yeah coffee i like it and for the coffee i want them to buy the coffee or the drink oh yeah

01:31:31.200 not even that not even five dollar coffee you don't pay for that shit either no i want them to do the

01:31:35.680 first time because i'm not gonna go so and then i only go like three dates per year so if like he

01:31:41.280 doesn't have a gesture of like paying for the first one like i don't want to waste my time okay no i

01:31:46.720 completely agree with this i know women who have specifically gone on dating apps and continue to

01:31:51.600 go on dates number one to get free food and number one to have sex that evening 100 wait have sex with

01:31:57.920 the guy they're on the date with or have sex with the guy they're on the date with so yeah the guy is

01:32:02.000 getting something out of it but still i mean that's getting into weird territory they're not doing it to

01:32:08.240 actually get into a committed relationship they're doing it to just go on a date girl wants to get laid

01:32:13.120 and she wants some free food and she's never going to see the guy again i know people who have

01:32:16.800 done that completely and i think that when it comes to a guy paying for the first date i do tend to

01:32:21.520 agree a little bit more with what brian's saying um and i think it really mostly comes down to the

01:32:27.440 time in life that you're in i mean you're in college you know going on a date with someone

01:32:30.960 everybody's kind of poor in college like i think then it's definitely appropriate to split the bill

01:32:35.200 but i do see where the others are coming when it comes to generally i would understand why a man would pay

01:32:40.400 for a bill okay so brian i have a question for you um so i feel like i can see the narrative that you

01:32:47.360 have in your head and it makes absolute sense because i do agree with um what she's saying that

01:32:52.880 there are girls that will you know go out and do you know some terrible things use men to get whatever

01:32:59.840 their intentions are and i completely agree with you but there are some women that that have healthy

01:33:06.640 intentions do you want to find the man of their life and you know there are some men that actually

01:33:12.240 want to court you know girls i guess court yeah and pay you know um for the first date and um and

01:33:20.720 bring flowers and be you know so what do you think about the the guys that you know want to pay for

01:33:27.120 like the traditional dinner and bring them like the flowers and all that stuff and the girls that are

01:33:32.480 still out there and do have like healthy intentions and still want to meet like their husband and

01:33:38.400 through you know these dating apps and don't have those intentions i know it's hard to find that

01:33:42.960 yeah well i mean all those things you listed like paying for the first date it's not going to hurt you

01:33:49.440 in any way so like the i don't actually recommend men do what i do um because not paying for the date

01:33:59.280 it could otherwise shut the door on what you know um me personally i use it just as a screening

01:34:06.720 mechanism for women who have a high interest and then uh but i'm prepared to like i'm not pressed

01:34:14.960 like any one date i'm never pressed like oh i really because that's a terrible place i think for

01:34:22.160 mostly for men but also for women to be in if you're like really hoping it works out and you're really

01:34:27.840 like you're a little too interested i think that's typically it tends to not work out you get in

01:34:34.160 your head about it so i'm very outcome independent like i don't if it doesn't happen with any given

01:34:40.000 person i i honestly don't give a fuck like yeah i don't care yeah okay that yeah that makes sense

01:34:47.360 that's a healthy thing to not get attached that early but i i feel like opening the door paying for dates

01:34:54.800 gifts flowers all that stuff i feel like these are things that are reserved for women who are worthy of

01:35:00.800 them right in other words you said you wouldn't even pay for an engagement ring huh you said you

01:35:06.080 wouldn't even pay for that's just that's more from a waste of money standpoint okay but um like i it's

01:35:12.560 more so just until you are only seeing me and i know this definitively i'm not gonna do the

01:35:21.200 traditional court like i'm not gonna be the traditional guy that makes because a lot of

01:35:25.120 people are seeing multiple people i'm not gonna sit here and like spend money on a girl yeah and

01:35:31.360 you're another dude like to me that's just that's not okay you want true you want traditional gender

01:35:37.680 roles don't just go one way you can't ex can't be a bunch of dudes and then expect a guy to want to

01:35:44.080 be a traditional man and court you and pay you while you're getting you're you're a bunch of other dudes

01:35:50.640 like i'm just not gonna i'm not gonna do it yeah and i know i'm a bit blunt in my presentation but

01:35:56.480 again i don't recommend men do this because you are going to uh you are gonna lose out on some women

01:36:03.920 but for me it's just like a screw it's a it's a matter of principle for me it's almost you almost

01:36:11.840 have to do it nowadays though because of how common this is and then how do you filter them

01:36:16.640 with who you're going out me personally let's say for what an hour or 30 minutes you talk with

01:36:21.600 someone and you kind of get an idea with like how you're you what's kind of like the filter system

01:36:26.720 you're using even to go on a date with them or not so like that that's the biggest thing i hate

01:36:32.080 though too is that me personally i hate having to sit here and filter out another girl you know what i

01:36:38.480 like yeah like filter out what is wrong with the squirrel like is she gonna do this not about what

01:36:44.880 is wrong it's like what do you have in harmony together what do you have in harmony well that's

01:36:48.560 what do you have that's just finding a common together yeah finding a connection and then you

01:36:52.240 will see okay am i aligned then i'm gonna go to the date so for example if the guy tells me

01:36:57.440 like a couple of red flags i'm not gonna waste my time to go on a date i'm just gonna go on a date

01:37:01.440 that i feel like there's potential here so i'm interested to go on a date i'll pay if she has

01:37:07.600 a large labia i'll see okay how are you gonna know that before the date i there's no way to

01:37:13.760 know she's gonna have to tell me she's gonna have to tell me by the way brian the the bills on you i

01:37:19.520 have so she has to bring that up herself like yeah pass me a note at some point um i suppose i would

01:37:26.720 also pay if um like if she was like in college if she was like 20 or 21. how old are you yeah 34.

01:37:37.920 you're gonna date a call like an 18 year old well in college that could be 18 19 20 21.

01:37:45.200 see here's the thing like okay yeah everyone all the girls at the table are making faces we got

01:37:49.760 you know this is actually uh panel wise we have uh i date young guys oh there you go i do i do yeah

01:37:57.200 yeah anything from 5 to 10 15 years okay so it's funny a lot of people grimace like oh brian you would

01:38:04.880 date someone who's 21 and you're 34. uh yes i would heaven forbid i did i date a woman who's at

01:38:10.480 her peak physical attractiveness um ew but what do you have in common why is that because i look better

01:38:15.280 than a lot of 21 year olds i work my ass off stop the cow that's not happening you're saying that

01:38:21.840 just because someone's 21 that they look do you have you seen the obesity crisis in the u.s

01:38:26.640 everyone's getting a little chubby but yeah i don't see how that's okay so you're you are 33 correct

01:38:32.560 yeah do you think you're you're better looking now than you were at 23 yeah absolutely really yeah

01:38:38.960 i mean i haven't seen photos but like yeah well at 23 i was in the middle of afghanistan with my head

01:38:42.880 shaped so yeah okay but like there are certain things that as you age for both men and women that

01:38:50.160 you know your skin loses a bit of its uh tautness i don't know if that's the right word uh you get

01:38:56.240 wrinkles you know typically i mean you can start getting into better shape as you get older however

01:39:02.560 a lot of people start getting a little bit of weight you know but um for i think i was better

01:39:08.400 looking when i was 23 or 24 than i am now at 34. i think i think men often look better as they get

01:39:16.000 older yeah well i mean there is something to be said that men in some perhaps more so than women can

01:39:23.760 not all the times by the way i'll say there's a lot of great looking 21 year old women and i'm not

01:39:30.320 going to dispute that but i just don't want you to generalize so much like there's a lot of

01:39:33.920 amazing like kim kardashian's body is amazing uh for her whoa whoa whoa whoa hold on she didn't buy

01:39:46.000 her okay well you're you're telling this to the wrong guy because i i despise plastic surgery and

01:39:53.440 she's had bbl she's had lipo she has fake tits she's had tons of work done so i don't like women with

01:39:58.480 plastic surgery so she looks amazing i mean no no no she's disqualified because he's not into that

01:40:06.480 no i'm sorry i mean maybe if she's doing it for herself yeah plastic surgery i don't think

01:40:12.720 looks good on women wait but brian or on anybody like dating like like what do you honestly have

01:40:19.840 in common with like an 18 year old like honestly like are you just dating her because like she might

01:40:24.080 have a big i don't know like what is your purpose like yes hold on i'll let this come in the offended

01:40:30.480 donated 99 to the military lady lip fillers do not look i don't have any no matter where you go

01:40:38.640 no lip filler you used to though didn't you a long time ago yeah it's all dissolved now but nice try

01:40:43.760 okay well first off um let me point something out i'm not like hanging out at college parties

01:40:48.880 trying to pick up 18 year olds okay i'm not like however like if also let me clarify most of the

01:40:56.800 women i've dated in the past couple years have actually been around my age actually i've dated

01:41:01.760 women older than me in recency so most of women i've dated recently within a couple years of me

01:41:08.560 uh dated i dated the 45 year old uh like a year or two ago and then i dated uh i think someone well

01:41:15.760 in any case i've dated some women older than me so it's like most of the women i date typically

01:41:18.880 around my age late 20s early 30s whatever um but would i object to dating a woman who's 21 or as you

01:41:26.480 if you want to use the extreme example to try to i do try to put me in a corner here uh an 18 year

01:41:31.680 old no i don't object to dating an 18 year old because you don't have to buy her a ring or pay for

01:41:35.600 her dinner no it's just like i think but i think 18 to 25 don't get me wrong there's women who are in

01:41:43.040 their 30s even 40s that i think are very attractive women it's not like i'm hyper focused in on like

01:41:50.400 18 to 25 year old women however don't shoot the messenger here and a vast majority of men

01:41:57.680 think women between the ages of 18 to 25 are the most physically attractive well apart from the

01:42:04.720 physical aspect what do you think you would have in common with someone that young like emotional

01:42:10.320 maturity like emotionally sure well do you think that commonality is the ultimate or penultimate

01:42:20.240 thing that men or women care about when it comes to it being attracted to somebody it's not the

01:42:26.080 ultimate but it gets started like whatever relationship you want to build it's always

01:42:30.720 probably more likely the foundation than physical attraction but when you say what do you have in

01:42:35.920 common with an 18 year old what do you think in that regard i have in common with like are you

01:42:43.200 talking about oh we we're in the same age cohort therefore we've seen the same movies alvin sam like

01:42:49.840 i don't care about that why are you shaming brian for dating younger women when younger women prefer much

01:42:56.320 older men younger women provide fertility that older women do not older women are more argumentative

01:43:03.680 combative disagreeable and difficult to get along with that just means they don't tolerate

01:43:09.760 so yeah it is interesting like women men always get shamed for their preferences standards and

01:43:16.080 boundaries men are not allowed to have preferences women they can like tall men they can like xyz

01:43:22.160 characteristics when it comes to men but the moment a man says well i'm attracted this is what i'm

01:43:26.160 attracted to oh well that you're you're oh i don't like to date obese women oh my god

01:43:31.360 you're you're so superficial or like but you know you you you're in the first world country

01:43:39.360 you're in a very small bubble with the rest of the world they value a woman based on how she looks

01:43:45.360 so like in all the middle east in asian country they choose woman based on how her appearance how

01:43:51.360 pretty she is or like what kind of family status she comes from so but in a first world country like

01:43:56.880 like eastern europe europe or america is a little bit different values in opposite culture it's

01:44:02.720 completely opposite the woman get the shame about like their choices what they want or what kind of

01:44:08.800 lifestyle they want to choose like it was completely opposite for us so for example when i say i want my

01:44:14.240 the guy that i'm dating i want him to be hot they're like oh you're so shallow so it's a shallow thing for

01:44:20.080 me because i'm middle eastern and i'm coming from the culture that i'm not allowed to say that i think

01:44:25.680 the other thing brian too is like it's like you're kind of putting women in a rock and a hard place

01:44:29.760 like there's no way to to win like what do you mean like you're saying that is the mark yeah like 20 20

01:44:35.360 early 20 year old women are like the ideal but then you shame women who get like plastic surgery and

01:44:40.160 things like that that are trying to basically because there's so many men out there saying younger women

01:44:45.280 are hotter they look better etc so they're when they try to like take care of themselves like you

01:44:49.680 know through any kind of plastic surgery whatsoever to reverse the clock a little bit then they're

01:44:54.000 shamed as well well plastic surgery doesn't make you look younger it just makes you look weird at the

01:45:00.720 age you are in my view i think plastic surgery do you think i'm look i look weird what what have you had

01:45:06.800 done like i had fat transfer in my i had fat transfer in my face um i touched my eyebrows i i did uh

01:45:13.120 plastic surgery we need to be specific here when we say plastic surgery because there's different

01:45:17.680 obviously there's different kinds of procedures typically the the more common things when i think

01:45:22.560 of plastic surgery would be uh yes breast okay so so breast implants bbl lipo and lip fillers

01:45:32.960 i have those are the four those are the four that at least for me absolutely not and then also labia

01:45:40.160 place to get the fuck out of here don't don't do that i do liposuction and i do work out very very

01:45:46.560 hard but like whatever i feel like oh i want to upgrade this just like how i upgrade my phone or

01:45:51.840 upgrade my lifestyle i upgrade myself too i'm like i like it this way so i'm gonna go do that for myself

01:45:57.520 right yeah go ahead i'm so sorry for interrupting okay um so i have a question to um with the younger

01:46:04.640 girls um with you and i'm not shaming you you can date whoever but um with the with that age range

01:46:11.520 it girls tend to be a little bit um tend to be more naive they could be easily controlled they can be

01:46:18.080 more easily manipulated impressed and they and they can they're easily impressed when i hear them when i

01:46:25.200 talk to them and i hear them talk about what their boyfriends do for them i'm like oh my god wow like

01:46:31.440 i remember being that young and being like so is that a reason why you also like to date young

01:46:37.280 besides being highly attract sexually attractive they are they are i could never compete with a

01:46:43.280 18 year old i definitely know that but it's also that thing because there to be honest with site

01:46:50.560 when it comes to psychology compatibility is always the number one factor that when it comes to being

01:46:56.800 uh a successful relationship so okay sure there's a answer that question sure well there's a few things

01:47:03.200 there um first off i i kind of reject this it's easier to control thing i mean it's not a control

01:47:12.880 it's not a control thing always with the shaming language when it comes to men's preferences but um

01:47:19.680 you could argue that women actually have quite a bit of power when it comes to because women are the

01:47:27.200 gatekeepers of sex the other thing i would point out is an older say a woman who's 30 who's like

01:47:34.880 really like let's say the clock is ticking and she's like i need to find a guy you could actually make

01:47:40.080 the argument that the woman in their 30s is more you could more readily manipulate her because she's

01:47:46.480 like really seeking out something long term not where the younger woman has much more options younger

01:47:52.640 women a younger woman like is yeah so i mean but okay what's your quite what is the question i mean

01:47:59.760 yeah is is one of the reasons that 18 year olds are more besides being sexually attractive because i

01:48:06.480 don't see what else you see in an 18 year old she's bangable well okay sure sure there's yeah okay so in

01:48:12.960 addition to just like on an intellectual level being like okay i think women between the age of like 18 to

01:48:18.160 25 just again don't shoot the messenger a lot of a lot of men think this way they might not admit it

01:48:24.400 would say like objectively like i think that's the peak age range when it comes to physical

01:48:28.560 attractiveness absolutely um it's also just an evolutionary biological thing because it it's

01:48:35.200 related to fertility younger women are more fertile so not only can you intellectualize like she actually

01:48:41.440 she actually looks more physically attractive on an intellectual level younger women are more

01:48:46.400 capable of bearing children so there's there's a built-in evolutionary attraction trigger to prefer

01:48:53.360 for men to prefer younger women because they're more fertile and that's a pretty large basis of

01:49:00.080 physical attraction but what i'm asking you is the the one of the most important things is that there's

01:49:06.720 also the emotional intimacy vulnerability part like how do you connect to an 18 year old because as a

01:49:14.960 30 they were all the same age i i cannot connect to someone i also love men and women are different men

01:49:22.800 and women are different we are on we are different but i'm asking you how you connect to an 18 year old

01:49:30.480 when it comes to intimacy vulnerability because compatibility is a very strong factor to relationship

01:49:37.520 success so i'm just asking you how do you get to that intimacy part well okay sure sure sure so

01:49:46.000 we're not shaming you for being attracted to younger women it's just what else besides their

01:49:49.360 attractiveness do you guys ask let him answer let him answer besides like biological stuff okay let him

01:49:55.440 answer well but i mean what like like besides that okay the biological reasons you don't even want

01:50:01.120 kids though so does it well no i didn't i didn't i'm uh i'm a little on the fence when it comes to

01:50:06.000 kids i could i couldn't we'll see how life goes i have my own dilemmas in life that may may want me

01:50:14.800 jesus i can't speak tonight um or any night for that matter uh that that may want me to not have kids but

01:50:21.120 i'm on the fence i can't i do want to have kids but we'll see how life goes um okay so what you're

01:50:27.840 saying what what is the compounded compatibility with someone who's younger i'll tell you this i've

01:50:32.240 as someone who's dated women my age who's dated women who are even older than me into their 40s

01:50:38.320 i can tell you that the same bullshit that you deal with in any sort of relationship can manifest

01:50:44.720 manifest itself at any age i know some in and i've dated some immature people who are in their 30s

01:50:51.920 i'm sure some of you here who are in your 30s late 30s early 30s i think we have you're 42 correct

01:50:58.960 um we have people quite a few people here in their 30s maybe some of you in your 20s

01:51:02.880 have dated people in your 30s how's their maturity level like it's not it's really but but like

01:51:10.560 like to say that dating someone your age is going to be a guarantee that there's compatibility and

01:51:19.920 that there's maturity is fallacious uh in the same way that there's someone who could be 21 that's

01:51:26.240 actually very compatible with you very mature and then the additional benefits

01:51:32.880 low body count likely to be low body count as you the more years you've been on this planet the more

01:51:38.640 people you fucked you know well we'll get we can get into that later but typically like as you get

01:51:45.200 older like your body count but that increases that's also false but that's i can also be false

01:51:51.680 well sure you could you could be 35 and have three sexual partners and you could be 18 and have 30

01:51:57.920 sexual partners we've had girls on the show who yeah at 18 19 20 21 have had 50 60 70 100 plus sexual

01:52:04.400 partners so of course it's not like but that same person at 18 is likely to have more sexual partners

01:52:13.520 by the time she reaches 28 so and certainly if i look at a 33 year old woman when she was 23 she

01:52:22.000 probably had fewer sexual partners when she was 23 obviously i can't time travel and go hook up with

01:52:26.960 her when when she was 23 but um so body count's important men prefer women with low body well

01:52:35.040 most men prefer women with lower body count i feel like i also want that

01:52:38.800 well i absolutely want you to be like 60 50 but yeah no i i guess you don't want that yeah don't get

01:52:46.160 me wrong like will you say this to another girl will you ask a girl why are you dating someone that is

01:52:51.040 10 years younger no yeah no actually yeah i because i'm the same way i i i'm so when you

01:52:57.280 meet someone the first thing one one mike guys yeah no i agree with i completely agree with you on that

01:53:03.440 but definitely i feel like it's a very generalized view but with the whole they're more sexually

01:53:09.520 attractive i completely agree and with the same thing you can meet an immature person at 30 and you can

01:53:15.760 yeah sure look and don't get me wrong it's not like i exclusively date young women like i've said

01:53:22.000 i date women my age in their 30s um i find women who are in their 30s attractive however i'm not going

01:53:28.640 to like sit here and lie to you and say that if i if you like i don't know how to perfectly articulate

01:53:37.040 this but women between the ages of say 18 to 25 me personally and i think i speak for a lot of men here

01:53:43.200 now there's a question of can we get those women that's a different question but i would say those

01:53:48.240 women purely speaking physical attractiveness i think they're the most physically attractive

01:53:52.960 right and i think to both men and women physical attract physical attraction is very very important

01:53:58.000 it is well and i think we're leaving one really important thing out here which is women in that age

01:54:02.640 range tend to go for men in their 30s who are established and make money and things of that nature

01:54:08.160 is it the right thing to do we can all have our own opinions on that but that is what

01:54:12.560 those women are seeking from 18 to 25 is you know they're going for 30 year olds right yeah and then

01:54:18.400 sometime i also want to add like you meet someone like either through work or through here and there

01:54:23.680 and you don't ask about how old are you how old are you like like there's a chemistry you like you guys

01:54:28.400 get along and then like and then oh wow you're like have an age a gap of seven years so what do you

01:54:34.400 do with that or just because you're seven years older than me or younger than me i'm not going to date

01:54:38.400 you no i'm going to date you because i feel like i have compatibility with you so age doesn't matter

01:54:43.200 if that in that sense also i just think that you know women who are between the ages of say

01:54:50.000 18 to 25 typically have less relationship baggage than women who are in their 30s so i mean that's

01:54:56.480 another component that's related to body count the more people you've slept with like the more

01:55:01.760 relationship baggage that you've probably accrued and like i have a question like i should start

01:55:07.440 dating aside from them not having so and so what do they have then apart from the physical

01:55:13.280 attractiveness yeah like let's say we find you that perfect 18 to 25 range like what else is there like

01:55:20.960 i mean are you looking for a lasting relationship though with this perfect 18 20 18 to 25 range sure

01:55:26.320 like what's the goal of the relationship sure i well first off i'm not i have no interest in one

01:55:30.720 night stands whether that's with someone my age or with someone younger uh sleeping with someone

01:55:35.040 once to me is just at least in my view it's a waste of time there's there's no i there's a whole bunch

01:55:41.440 of reasons why but it's not worth it um if i want to sleep with somebody i want there to be a continuity

01:55:47.200 i want to continue seeing them um so no it wouldn't be a short-term thing so eventually it's commitment

01:55:52.800 but what gets you to that commitment so what other things would bind you together to move forward to a

01:55:57.840 commitment as opposed to someone as opposed to just a physical you know sex stuff i mean what

01:56:03.920 is it like but like what okay so a lot of people will say well a woman who's 31 is more established

01:56:10.640 in her career and no let's just go back to the 18 and 20 18 to 20 but what i'm trying to say is like

01:56:16.880 a lot of people will argue oh well one of the benefits of dating a woman who's a bit older she's

01:56:21.920 more established in her in her career men don't really care about that because i mean we went

01:56:28.800 around the table except for you i think every single girl here said you want the man to pay

01:56:34.240 so like not your your success women who like men you being successful doesn't make you more attractive

01:56:41.520 to a guy like good for you like it's awesome if you're successful but your success is not a metric

01:56:46.880 with which men will look at a woman be like oh she's more attractive because of because of her

01:56:52.000 success in the same way a woman would look at a guy who's a doctor an attorney and be like whoa okay

01:56:56.720 that's kind of they might be more attracted to him because of the uh prestige that comes with certain

01:57:02.320 careers or the wealth that he has because women don't share their resources with men in the same

01:57:07.920 way that men share their resources with women so that's just i just want to point that out i know

01:57:11.440 that's not the question you're asking that's just another reason why men are more inclined to date

01:57:16.560 younger women and why older women who are more established in their career it's not like

01:57:21.760 that's not an attraction trigger for men one for evolutionary biological reasons but also just

01:57:27.600 because women don't really share their resources with men the same way that men share their

01:57:31.600 resources with women but i have to disagree a little bit because i think there's a lot of men

01:57:35.760 that i've spoken to that definitely want a woman who is successful has a college degree things like

01:57:41.280 that and it's not about necessarily financial but just like mental like they have their

01:57:44.800 their shit together they're do they're not i know i know a lot of a wife i think

01:57:49.920 oh go ahead oh my god

01:57:53.280 wah wah wah

01:57:58.240 what'd be mean

01:58:00.240 damn

01:58:02.960 um shoot what were you saying oh i was just saying that i think that there's definitely a

01:58:06.560 lot of men out there that want a woman who has you know got a college degree she's you know got a great

01:58:11.600 career things like that from the mental perspective yeah less about financial dependency or resources

01:58:17.120 from the man to the woman but just about having a woman who has some level of intellect that they

01:58:21.120 can have a conversation with and that you know the woman's like you know definitely got goals and

01:58:25.760 dreams and ambition i think a lot of men like that yes so it's kind of hard for me for me yeah for me

01:58:30.400 personally it's a little bit hard because we met them brian brian how old are you 34 34 yeah okay

01:58:34.560 i'm 24 so he's 10 years older than me but i think a lot of guys at least around my age do not look for

01:58:39.520 that at all maybe if you're a little bit older and you're looking for a wife 24 is a little bit too

01:58:44.400 young to like look in your brain's not fully developed yeah wait till 25

01:58:48.720 there we go but even then because you know at the 25 you're just finishing the school like

01:58:56.640 yeah you know it's different than when you're 35 but i can speak even i can even watch a chat i can

01:59:01.360 guarantee that nobody looks for that so this is the thing so how about if you're a girl there's a 21 year

01:59:07.760 and and they for example are doing let's see and it doesn't it doesn't say that they're doing you know

01:59:14.560 just like um they're just like and not that influencers make a lot of money but say that

01:59:20.640 they were just doing maybe like an only fans thing and they want to get married you know and they want

01:59:26.080 to get married to you i mean if you're doing only wait so okay but she's highly attractive and say

01:59:32.320 that there's there's this woman who has a phd in child development she's published she's uh does um

01:59:40.960 a bunch of panels all the time and you know that she's gonna be a good mother to your children but

01:59:47.360 she does only fans no there's two different women so just like she said earlier it's not a detriment

01:59:53.760 it's not a detriment either so it does it is it kind of netting neutral like it's not necessarily

01:59:58.000 detriment or it doesn't it's not it's not a make or break it's not it's neutral so you would choose

02:00:02.800 so what i'm saying is we don't search for that it's not so it doesn't matter who's gonna be the

02:00:07.360 mother so it's not it doesn't matter who who you don't care about who's gonna be a good mother to

02:00:11.760 your children what does that happen we were talking about finances no i know but i'm saying

02:00:17.040 like you guys literally just base it on it doesn't matter what she does in her life her intellect

02:00:23.200 or her thing now we're talking about money and finances yeah we're talking about money yeah

02:00:27.200 like you can be smart and not but she said but she said a guy likes also should care about the

02:00:34.720 intellect her the degree and all of that listed multiple different yeah i know i'm focused on the

02:00:40.400 exact topic of what we're talking about okay but what about but what about also yes women who are

02:00:46.320 smart are attractive there there you go yeah i mean you don't you can be smart and not be a doctor

02:00:51.040 well i guess what other qualities aside from like so like personality qualities do you look for okay

02:00:56.000 like are women just like why do we have to ask or do you like to talk to them yeah are women just

02:01:00.640 meat bags or do you like to talk to them too no but like this this idea wait wait wait say that

02:01:05.280 again i said are women just meat bags or do you like to talk to them too is that directed at me

02:01:11.280 no i was talking to brian yeah i was about to say well okay so as somebody who's actually i i'd say i'm

02:01:18.880 kind of more on the introverted side i actually uh i actually do appreciate like i i don't know some

02:01:24.880 people feel the need to like constantly be yapping i'm actually totally cool like i think a a hallmark

02:01:32.320 of a good relationship is comfort and silence not needing to have to be fucking blabbing all the time

02:01:38.160 so but of course i don't want like a brain dead partner but like i also i mean this perhaps coincides

02:01:47.360 with someone who's capable of talking a lot i don't want someone who's like very combat combative yeah

02:01:53.200 that's a good point and so like peace is very important to me yeah um does that mean all

02:01:58.480 intelligent people they talk a lot no not necessarily but this idea this idea that i need

02:02:04.720 like i must have really deep conversation actually i i do i i i will agree i love it i need smart

02:02:16.080 person intellectually i need to be attracted again i'm not even i'm gonna walk away i don't know if

02:02:22.560 it makes you smart i'm trying to think of the word it's introspective that's that's kind of what i

02:02:27.840 look for but not necessarily smart like oh no i've had experiences i've had experiences where i'm like

02:02:34.880 i've had experiences where i'm like okay let's hey babe let's put on a show and she wants to talk

02:02:41.520 during the fucking show i'm like what's that yo what's going on can we just chill can we just chill

02:02:47.680 and watch the show yeah or like sometimes i it's like but um no it's not like i can have very good

02:02:56.960 conversations with people of any age like this idea that again like someone who's young doesn't have a

02:03:06.480 certain level of maturity maybe they they don't have certain life experiences but i mean i look i

02:03:11.760 i'm sure we can all agree here there's people that you've dated in your age cohort that are

02:03:16.800 terrible people that are not particularly interesting or they're so you can find good

02:03:22.480 people i think at any age um and so i don't know it just sounds like you're more willing to tolerate

02:03:28.560 it from you know 18 to 25 and that's totally fine that's totally okay no i don't want to tolerate

02:03:32.480 i don't want to tolerate well no someone like he's a bad no someone who's like a bad person or if

02:03:36.960 you're weeding through like if you're going to deal with the annoying things that come with any kind

02:03:40.640 of person he's more willing to tolerate it from like 18 to 25 versus like and that's that's fine

02:03:47.120 that's all that's all we were asking like what other than like her breed ability for example

02:03:54.560 i'm not going to tolerate a woman who has borderline personality disorder i don't care how

02:03:58.560 fucking hot she is yeah no but like i just meant like talking through movies like a little bit

02:04:03.520 like just like a little like harmless quirks like what's a deal breaker for you that's like

02:04:07.360 but there but what i'm trying to there there are some men that will tolerate like absolutely egregious

02:04:12.400 behavior like what if if the person is attractive enough and that applies to both men and women like

02:04:18.320 if the person is attractive enough they'll like overlook certain red flags like ariana grande

02:04:23.280 certain behavior he's really trying to get it out for me like if a girl like if there's serious

02:04:30.320 issues there i don't care how hot she is i'm not tolerating major major issues so yeah good times

02:04:37.120 oh really quick just to go back to the plastic surgery stuff um because i don't know there's a

02:04:41.840 little bit of pushback on that so

02:04:47.520 i would prefer a woman like so let's say a woman had fake breasts

02:04:50.880 but before she was totally flat a lot of people might think well like i i would prefer her totally

02:04:58.240 flat as she was i don't care if there were lopsided if one was bigger than the other whatever the

02:05:02.640 fuck i don't care i would prefer her as she was without fake breasts yes same with same with uh lipo i'd

02:05:11.200 prefer a girl i'd prefer a girl with a little bit of belly fat then with a lipo belly i think it doesn't

02:05:16.240 look great uh bbl i'd prefer a girl with a flat butt than with a big bbl i think it looks weird

02:05:23.120 uh what's the other one lip fillers i'd prefer a girl with a small upper lip than with lip fillers

02:05:29.120 i think that's coming back i think like way less women are getting lip filler now like a lot of

02:05:32.560 girls are getting it dissolved which i love i'm excited to see women be more confident with their own

02:05:37.200 face yeah i think it's definitely coming back um all right let me let me get a couple chats here

02:05:41.760 awesome we have uh doc vanabolus sorry but white coat you are such a hypocrite you bragged about all

02:05:49.760 the dough you make but will not have a second date if the man won't pay no wonder you have trouble with

02:05:54.000 dates cats lots wow if i have trouble with dating whatever there you go um wait i saw in your instagram

02:06:02.720 it said you were a feminist is that correct feminist and liberal both i cannot like categorize myself just

02:06:09.280 with like one i definitely i'm a feminist but i have also life showed me that i have to respect men

02:06:17.360 so much too and like i'm not going to judge because oh you're a man and basically i'm going to disregard

02:06:23.040 and this is my belief system so kind of about two years ago like i have respect to human being and it's

02:06:29.440 it's not based on if you're a male or female okay but like but this but have lots of lots of passion for

02:06:37.280 women it's like a part of me because i'm a survival and i survived in life and i had a very very hard

02:06:43.840 life coming out from iran and middle east and being really living in a very suppressed country

02:06:49.520 so like there's a part of me always want to fight for women and then like my heart goes for women

02:06:55.520 maybe not as much as goes for men okay but like as a as a feminist um kind of what what are the

02:07:03.440 primary things that you believe in related to that like i believe women should not sell their body

02:07:10.080 oh okay there's different absolutely there's different feminist views on that on one some

02:07:15.360 feminists believe that women should have the freedom freedom if you want to have fun i'm perfectly fine

02:07:21.520 but then there's the other side of well it's for the benefit of the male gaze and uh you know

02:07:27.120 you're you're being uh objectified and it you're uh being uh what's the other word that's often used

02:07:35.680 well no that's the anti like anti-porn feminist oh objectified you mean no there's another term that

02:07:42.080 is evading me but um okay you know i never go to um strip club um i just somehow randomly ended up two

02:07:51.280 weeks ago in the strip club i didn't know that's a strip club i was supposed to go to the bar section and

02:07:55.680 ended up and watching the girls bending and taking money from floor and i was just it was like i'm

02:08:04.240 getting slapped in the face i couldn't do it i want to save them and i could not stand there and i would

02:08:09.600 like almost had tears in my eyes and i'm like what can i do what can i contribute to the society so the

02:08:15.040 girl value herself so the girl go find a career the girl finds like something for herself that values

02:08:21.760 more than someone throw money and then you get up so wait as a feminist do you believe in equality

02:08:29.040 we can't really have 100 percent equality because we're a different species we can't really have

02:08:33.760 100 we're not a different species but no no no no no like i mean we had men and women so they are

02:08:39.520 different yeah yeah okay um well do you so like as a feminist do you think that women i know you said

02:08:46.160 you're from iran so let's do you think women in the west are oppressed

02:08:53.520 sometimes they can't yeah okay if they're from smaller cities um because i work with lots of women

02:09:00.240 and then majority of my employees are women so there's i still see that in all different cultures okay

02:09:05.520 um i maybe have five uh female male employee and like 120 female wow we need to put some quotas on

02:09:14.960 your uh hiring practices see that's the that's what's interesting i feel like equality like if

02:09:22.080 there's an over-representation of women in a field that's equality but if there's an over-representation of

02:09:27.840 men in the field that's somehow evidence of i i know where you're going is completely correct but

02:09:34.240 also i'm in healthcare so in healthcare nurses how many male nurses we have same with education you

02:09:40.560 make good money in nursing maybe uh there should be some quotas some something you know there should

02:09:47.840 be a push for for more male nurses yeah like meet the parents

02:09:56.880 okay um and so do you believe in the patriarchy

02:10:00.320 um that's kind of a core tenant of feminism i think

02:10:07.360 you know i so i don't believe anything that is like written with how can i say this it's like

02:10:15.600 this is the law and you have to believe everything this way i don't believe anything i feel like every

02:10:19.920 human being should be free from choosing and bending a law that it doesn't benefit their life so for

02:10:28.560 example i want to say i'm raised in a muslim family and then the and then my ex-husband was a muslim and

02:10:36.320 then they wanted me practice certain type of behavior for example we couldn't shake hand if they're non-muslim

02:10:43.120 and then so this was norm to this society so if i touch your hand and you're a christian or you're a

02:10:48.640 jew or you're any other nationality is like a like i'm almost dirty if i'm touching someone else so

02:10:55.040 so so then i need to have a freedom although if i'm raised with that uh culture if i'm

02:11:01.120 raised with that religion and everything what's that have to do with the patriarchy can we define

02:11:05.600 the patriarchy yeah i was just gonna ask yeah no i just want to say like like i don't believe like

02:11:10.720 yeah i just want i was trying to say like like you should be free to bend over rules whenever you

02:11:16.640 want to and whatever it's wrong with wait if you don't want if you don't believe any part of it

02:11:25.600 i'm a bit confused well okay but i'm just asking because oh hold on yo prometheus thank you man

02:11:31.440 donated 100 as a hospital employee there are copious amount of male nurses

02:11:37.520 i'm not a nurse but i can attest i've seen them and communicated with them

02:11:42.160 oh yeah there's definitely of course yeah definitely thumbnail i'm not saying it doesn't

02:11:46.320 exist well i'm sure there's majority i'm sure the there's uh they've released statistics on

02:11:52.080 the breakdown of nurses i don't know what it is but it's probably it's largely women for sure it's

02:11:57.040 for sure i don't know if it's 80 90 but um it's pretty high uh well okay i'm just asking because

02:12:02.880 you described yourself as a feminist but you also want a guy to pay for a first date you know let me

02:12:08.240 tell you why let me tell you why because i've been i've been uh because of um i know this is going

02:12:14.080 sound a little bit cheesy and it's not going to be like but i've been conned before like you got conned

02:12:19.680 yes with like also guys coming after money also guys coming and looking for like oh for you like

02:12:25.920 seeking financial benefits or this and that so because of that is like usually i have a lifestyle

02:12:34.240 if i want to enter the guy in my life there is lots of financial benefit that whoever comes in my

02:12:39.760 life they um they will receive so if they cannot even pay for the first date and i'm like i'm gonna

02:12:46.320 have problem with my lifestyle so i think this can be more personal to my life maybe not going to be

02:12:54.160 applied to everyone else right but i just feel like if you're a feminist you believe in equality and

02:12:58.880 wouldn't it like the equal thing be to pay on the first date or so no so that's what so that's what

02:13:05.200 i said so i choose a part of being feminist not all of us so it's like like so i do believe equality

02:13:13.440 but not 100 because we can't be for example 100 percent equal that's what i was trying to say we

02:13:19.040 can't be equal as a man and woman but i mean so equality when it benefits you yeah that's what it

02:13:24.960 sounds like yes she admits it there you go okay show's over well not so true is meaning by the

02:13:30.640 laws i think too or and saying you know one can bend she believes that one can kind of almost bend

02:13:35.840 laws when it's or like the patriarchy like societal things when it benefits them is almost what you

02:13:43.280 were saying right what is the patriarchy like have you seen the bar did you see the barbie movie

02:13:51.440 no i said what is the no what is the patriarchy no i know so if i was asking if you've seen the

02:13:56.480 barbie movie because i have and it's not about horses so what is it about uh so the in the barbie

02:14:01.040 movie uh they kind of go into what patriarchy and matriarchy is uh just more get your feminist

02:14:06.240 talking points from a hollywood i was more interested in oppenheimer but yeah no i watched

02:14:10.240 that too it was so good killian murphy anyway sorry wait hold on how old is killian murphy he's 45 i

02:14:17.040 looked and said what i said wait hold on how old are you 28 that's a reasonable age reasonable age

02:14:25.040 i'm past my prime of 25 i know i know i have such a crush on him that's a that's a pretty big age gap

02:14:32.880 there though i know but it's fine because i'm not 18 to 25 right he's writing that down he's writing

02:14:38.640 that down red flag all right uh let's do a couple soup chats here we have uh dj talk far thank you man

02:14:46.240 brandon i know you got them big bucks but you need to spend some on the tan you damn near as white

02:14:51.200 as the table my guy i thought he was gonna do a uh like under the table on his phone do a little

02:14:57.200 fucking champagne you know i'm actually i'm not even i'm not i'm gonna get there but uh oh okay brandon

02:15:01.920 champagne whatever the uh okay bender the offender ladies if your dream man was dating your female

02:15:07.040 best friend would you try to steal him from her ariana grande never never if your dream man was dating

02:15:13.200 your female best friend would you try to steal him from her ariana grande her oh she's like yes i

02:15:20.720 would she's like me oh no not me no i feel like my dream man wouldn't be dating okay wait so if

02:15:27.200 killian murphy was dating your best friend and you get what would you do i didn't like the barbie movie

02:15:33.200 look all i'm gonna say everyone thinks i said i liked i didn't say just soccer has a goal doesn't

02:15:37.520 mean you can't score that's all okay okay i'm kidding no you can't be like if someone is dating

02:15:44.000 someone especially in your personal circle that's weird and i'm gonna be honest like i don't want your

02:15:49.360 seconds that's weird that's weird to me interesting and it's like if you didn't if you had the option

02:15:54.400 between my friend and me and you picked her why would i want you after you already picked someone else

02:15:59.440 whether it's my friend or not i don't really he's not really my dream man i wouldn't think so

02:16:05.520 yeah uh yeah that's odd i feel like if you can steal a man that man honestly he's kind of trash

02:16:10.640 if you can steal him he's like oh let's just see if you can who's the hottest one yeah so i'm gonna

02:16:16.080 say no on that i will never go after a man can be if killian murphy's ever single yes x5 podcast

02:16:21.200 it's so cool you have the chick from rocky four on your pod oh my god she has aged so well i don't

02:16:26.880 know what that's a reference to i don't know the guy's probably fat and plays video games all the

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02:17:27.360 if your dream man was dating your female best friend would you try to steal him from her

02:17:32.240 yeah we all said no all right we got puffy vegas if i said it once i'll say it a thousand times

02:17:36.080 there's no such thing as a faithful woman wrong

02:17:40.720 if yeah no i mean you've been hurt i'm sorry yeah yeah all right we have sean medellin thank you man

02:17:48.880 from my understanding the story came out as false this week just saying but she definitely has a

02:17:53.440 pattern of this oh that's about ariana wait the story's false no i don't think so okay if you look

02:17:58.960 at the guy compared to ariana i kind of thought really i mean are we sure about that to be fair

02:18:04.720 he's probably like such a chad no he's played spongebob on broadway are you sure about that here's

02:18:10.480 the thing though like the broadway dudes the broadway dudes are just they're just getting ran through

02:18:15.920 well because like i think a lot of a lot of men on broadway are are not straight i think i'm pretty

02:18:24.240 sure like a lot of men in theater are not straight yeah so like the the ones that are in the same way

02:18:28.960 like a straight male ballerina is like fucking all the ballerinas like just because like there's no

02:18:34.960 competition so he's just going through all the theater chicks i guess i don't know um okay that's

02:18:41.120 that's my bro science theory there um i didn't know it was fake though but thank you sean uh x5

02:18:48.960 podcast it's so cool you have the chick from rocky four on your pod she has aged well

02:18:55.040 thank you x5 appreciate it oh whoa holy five hundred dollars oh my god i thought that was a

02:18:59.440 hundred holy shit bro wow yo x5 thank you very much um i'd like to keep the insults coming

02:19:05.920 yeah you're gonna pay for them wow that thank you that's uh yeah we'll take them all day

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02:19:22.800 i i'd like to remind send a little reminder there guys youtube takes a 30 percent cut of super chat

02:19:29.360 revenue membership revenue so instead of super chatting i do direct you guys to try to go to

02:19:33.840 streamlabs.com slash whatever you can do it through stupid chat it's fine it's not a big deal

02:19:38.400 but uh if you want less of your if you or excuse me if you want more of your contribution to actually

02:19:43.440 go towards whatever and not into the pockets of woke megacorp youtube that doesn't need the money

02:19:48.480 um consider doing it through stream labs because they only take three percent whereas youtube as i

02:19:52.560 said takes 30 so what is 30 of 500 that's 150 i believe too much wait yeah 30 30 never do math

02:20:01.760 yeah so like you're giving 100 if you're doing this you're you're giving 150 again i'm i'm super

02:20:10.800 grateful very thankful but just keep in mind you're giving 150 of this 500 to youtube whereas if you did

02:20:17.680 through stream labs i think it would be like there would be like a 20 buck 20 payment processing fee on

02:20:23.600 a 500 uh so did you know you know just food for thought guys food for thought if you want to do

02:20:28.960 through stream labs but either way is fine i know it's cooler because on youtube it like shows in

02:20:33.520 the chat so it's whatever you guys want just you know blake rowlands thank you man marriage is a

02:20:38.720 vow to love and cherish till death not a vow to love and cherish only if you're happy yo very very good

02:20:44.720 point i pray my future wife stands by me through it all yeah i mean that's the other thing the vows you

02:20:51.120 say like your word work people's words means nothing till death till death do us part has to

02:20:57.520 mean something in sickness and in health what's the other part in in in uh for better for worse for

02:21:03.840 better or for worse wait in sickness and in health like isn't there a stat that usually when a partner

02:21:11.840 gets sick it's usually the guy who leaves the relationship i think it's fake news i think that's

02:21:17.120 fake news real news in middle east and asia i think it's fake news um like if you're like if you

02:21:23.760 were really suffering from hashimotas like i'd i'd stick it out just saying you're really suffering i

02:21:29.200 would okay i would you know i wouldn't you know just saying okay puffy vegas we have uh thank you

02:21:34.080 man i'm a 48 year old man i know what this girls are saying now is a youthful thinking but listen to

02:21:39.680 this 100 puffy come on brother of women my age who don't have kids are depressed and miserable

02:21:46.800 listen to me once you cannot have kids it's too late you know what though you know what though

02:21:52.880 i think a really like rebuttal to this from the other side is that well like i don't think men are

02:21:59.760 holding up that great either i don't think anybody wait not holding up well and white well like i mean

02:22:07.680 if you look at um rates there is something to be said about like the act the comparative rates of like

02:22:14.000 uh depression or whatever between men and women in certain age cohorts but like men are deleting

02:22:19.520 themselves more so like i don't know you know and they make more money so okay kvmoga thank you man

02:22:28.960 the best value women brings to the planet is giving birth don't be a slave to modern feminism lies and

02:22:34.640 propaganda i don't know a woman took us to the moon a lot of you know it's a special thing to

02:22:40.240 give birth scientists that wrote a mathematician that wrote all the code i mean i think that's a

02:22:43.520 pretty amazing thing to add to the world besides just a child agreed i mean a woman birthed her to

02:22:48.800 be able to do that sure i'm not saying that isn't valuable but that's not the only purpose that woman

02:22:53.120 has that's not the value well he's saying the best value yeah it's a very special thing to be able to

02:23:00.320 bring life into this world yeah i agree i think i i mean my my view on this is and i've said this before

02:23:06.720 um there are certainly ramifications of doubling the labor pool when we kind of did that economically

02:23:13.680 speaking in case in point like you can no longer raise a family on one uh income generally speaking but

02:23:20.160 uh i do think it's beneficial that we've opened up the uh labor pool to women insofar as uh we can

02:23:28.400 now and i'm using this term in the most charitable sense of the term we can now exploit women's genius

02:23:34.320 and intelligence and brilliance to tackle some of the most um difficult problems uh that we as the human

02:23:43.120 race are facing chiefly for example i think it's wonderful if we have more women pursuing uh like cancer

02:23:48.800 research i think it's wonderful for us to throw women's intelligence and manpower or i suppose woman

02:23:55.280 power uh towards those issues i mean so uh i think more women should get into stem and yeah more people

02:24:04.080 in general should get into stem and attempt to tackle uh because i mean cancer known cancer knows no gender

02:24:11.840 uh illness knows no yeah gender so i think uh if we can tap into women's intellect to attempt to

02:24:19.520 solve these things i'm i'm all for it all right we have mount whateverist missed moving that three of

02:24:25.840 clubs you're right what does that mean what does that mean oh i think inside joke like you know i'm a big

02:24:31.760 solitaire buff so puffy vegas hey thank you man i'm going to rate the girls starting with the girl from rocky

02:24:36.560 four seven eight six seven six six seven and the girl in the hat seven point five what about me

02:24:43.120 you're you're a male so i don't he was rating the girl oh we have dj takvar hey thank you brunette

02:24:49.200 shorty next to brandon what's your ethnicity you're fine as hell girl hashtag shooters shot shoot excuse me

02:24:58.000 also god damn it brian we need more room temp iqs on the show let me be your talent scout i'd have

02:25:03.680 that panel so inept to make biden look like mlk oh okay um yeah no i'm i think the panel's actually

02:25:13.680 been uh really good uh tonight so sometimes there's a lack of discussion going on so i appreciate people

02:25:21.600 actually having some input on things thank you dj puffy i've known a lot of utah girls my point they

02:25:26.400 were not having they were doing back puffy puffy my dude bro i dm'd you on instagram puffy are you

02:25:33.520 gonna answer me if you don't answer me i will be very disappointed sir uh hold on what the

02:25:39.680 fuck oh rip hold on what the okay we have brand uh what bender the offender army lady i have a sneaking

02:25:51.120 suspicion you were a barracks bunny so they're referring to a barracks bunny because god forbid

02:25:56.480 a woman be beautiful and be in the military so there there's been a lot of comments like this

02:26:01.280 saying that i'm sure you know that they're sure i was just a barracks bunny but not only did i serve

02:26:04.960 in afghanistan and work with women and children in a war-torn country for almost two years uh but i was

02:26:10.000 also a rappel master air assault uh and the first female in the history of the oregon army national guard

02:26:15.440 uh to pass uh rappel master school so uh definitely not a barracks bunny by any means

02:26:20.960 uh yeah uh definitely a lot more intelligent than that and i just did your dad only sorry

02:26:27.520 wait oh i love that bender the offender

02:26:34.880 what's a barracks bunny so barracks is where people live in the military it's

02:26:39.680 it's referred to as the barracks oh yeah it's a nice track did did you ever uh

02:26:45.680 any do i did ever have any military relations no no did you ever

02:26:53.920 you're gonna have to what yeah you were in what you said afghanistan yeah

02:26:58.960 i don't think that was the question you ever kill a man oh come on move on yeah move on yes

02:27:04.880 well no that's not move on that's not okay oh okay what's your other kind of body count

02:27:10.400 yeah the other body count all right all right here i am all right puffy vegas

02:27:15.120 i'm 48 years i've known thousands of men i've owned several businesses i've never once heard

02:27:19.920 a man bring up a woman's finances we do not care we do not care

02:27:23.440 etc we do not care yeah i can't wait to admit at my job oh bender the offender donated 99

02:27:30.640 so you smashed a bum damn that's a loss for you oh for the dad comment damn wait what

02:27:36.720 when you made this is bender the offender oh yeah keep the money coming let's get this man paid so

02:27:42.480 what so you know he's saying that his dad's a bum oh and you smashed sure whatever you want

02:27:48.080 then more money wow this is getting deep that's why he's being rude on you yeah it's because he

02:27:53.280 he's got a real quality life oh he's rude on you because he thinks you're attractive i know that's

02:27:59.120 the thing he'll be dming me later this always happens you're gonna get bullied this is not my

02:28:02.320 first rodeo he's gonna come for for you okay uh matthew saturn hey thank you for the 50 uh first time

02:28:08.560 catching y'all sevens all day question for the panel why do we need money welcome to the whatever

02:28:15.600 economic policy podcast um why do we need money yeah honestly buy gold we need money so i mean you

02:28:24.240 know you barter instead of trading goats for tailoring it's like a way to you know that's a way to you

02:28:33.680 know i actually don't know why do we need money so we can exchange it for goods and services so i

02:28:41.920 don't have to go and shoot my dinner every night there we go that is fun though

02:28:50.080 i think it would be fun um i just like i need lasik in my eyes i can't see so i would probably

02:28:55.040 miss and me too yeah healthy yeah can we have fun my lasik surgery okay so let's uh i'm gonna try

02:29:03.440 to come back to a couple of the points that you guys sent in the pre-show information uh let's see

02:29:11.920 we have amy the challenges of dating today it's so hard to find people who want a traditional

02:29:18.240 relationship what is a traditional relationship wait what did i say i can't remember what i said

02:29:24.480 when i wrote it literally what i just said what is a traditional relationship um well i mean uh

02:29:31.760 traditional relationship you said it's hard to find yeah so well i was referring to los angeles

02:29:35.840 like in los angeles which is where i live um wait who here's from la or lives in the

02:29:42.000 swordless donated 100 are you in ls what's wrong with goats they are tasty ma ha ha ha what's wrong

02:29:49.440 with goats no listen there's there's nothing wrong with goats but just like as a matter of

02:29:56.480 simplicity when it comes to bartering like you got to bring the goat to the dude and then he's got to

02:30:02.000 get you some moccasins it's like we don't you know that's why we have money we you know makes it

02:30:10.320 easier okay i don't know so people can do the work you don't want to do yeah yeah here's my i was

02:30:18.160 rewarded with these pieces of paper which have value for my labor i am now trading it for your labor

02:30:25.120 guys i'm not a fucking i don't know the fucking economy shit okay um wait go ahead we were talking

02:30:33.040 about uh relationships traditional yeah so i mean what's traditional relationship like in los angeles

02:30:38.000 today like there's so many as you're kind of going through the dating apps and stuff there's so many

02:30:42.320 men who um are you know out in the open and say i want like an ethical non-monogous yeah exactly

02:30:49.520 relationship and it just seems like that's overwhelmingly the norm in los angeles now

02:30:54.720 and so when i talk about like a traditional relationship um i mean like you know monogamous

02:30:58.960 exclusivity not having an open relationship sure okay all right anybody here also want a traditional

02:31:07.440 relationship yeah yeah not you what what do you want are you are you ethically non-monogamous i've

02:31:14.640 always been monogamous okay what why are you looking at me i'm just saying um i think my answer is

02:31:23.840 going to depend on the next partner so i'm open to that you're open to what i'm open to figuring out

02:31:31.920 what i want when i finally meet that person well when i meet a person would you be okay with it being

02:31:38.000 open on his end but closed on yours open on his end and like he could see other girls but you can't

02:31:44.240 see other why would we arrive at that though there has to be a reason like usually you go into a

02:31:49.920 relationship having the same values so why would why would we eventually get into that because you're

02:31:58.320 kind of like you know you're being considerate of your partner you're just kind of there is a good um

02:32:05.200 discussion there like with esther perel if you guys are familiar like she actually asks um well

02:32:10.880 she actually discusses how we try to make that one person into everything right best friend um

02:32:20.160 someone who you share i don't know like sports or whatever your interests are and she asks this

02:32:25.600 question should your partner be the only one resource for this kind of connections

02:32:32.960 it's an open-ended question it always depends on the type of person that you are

02:32:37.360 so no wrong answers there i think they should be your priority yeah definitely but it's opening that

02:32:44.480 talk where realistically this is according to her i've been reading her it took a village

02:32:50.640 to get you know the resources the connections that you have but now we are so concentrated like

02:32:55.600 here the modern dating it's very you know just donated 99 i don't date women who have deflated lips

02:33:04.000 no man wants to pump up a tire that has a hole in it he's still on it i think that's to have a

02:33:11.360 response to bender the offender yeah i mean i just want him to keep sending you money so i mean go for

02:33:15.200 it what else you got that that's your clap back no i mean like i'm just not worried about it i'm just

02:33:21.840 not worried about it i mean like this is the thing that's not my first time doing a podcast and it's

02:33:26.080 definitely not my first time having many people be like oh she's in the military she must be a barracks

02:33:30.240 bunny and then go for my lips or my face or whatever i'm i'm fine with it like keep it coming

02:33:34.400 it gets this man paid respect our veterans yeah that's crazy that's so disrespectful do you lift

02:33:40.160 yeah i do jiu-jitsu too damn really i'm kind of myron i'm kind of myron you're you got a good

02:33:46.000 some guns no i can see the vein even through the shirt i mean like honestly like who goes after a

02:33:52.320 fucking combat veteran yes seriously like come on it's true just people that are going to be in

02:33:57.280 my dms later that's that's what's going to happen seriously like hey i'm sorry about what i said

02:34:00.720 they just want me to be you don't want to go out they just want me to be a dom and it's horrible

02:34:03.520 that we just all collectively thank you for your service no it's not necessary it's not necessary

02:34:08.000 but i'm just like who does that like i think we should if you really wanted to clap back at bender

02:34:13.200 you would be like why are you why is your name like a futurama come on i mean i just don't know why

02:34:19.760 why are you so mad like why are you so mad he's not mad i just told you he likes you yeah maybe

02:34:24.320 he's like that's a toxic mentality like men communicate your feelings and other than just anger

02:34:32.960 men be like i have no feelings wait oh wait so uh just again show of hands who wants a

02:34:39.040 traditional relationship okay gotcha and so nikki you said that um

02:34:44.240 um you said something about uh you're religious right you're christian okay uh you want like a

02:34:51.760 traditional you said don't have sex before marriage which is very traditional it is but have you have

02:34:58.880 you had any indiscretions or indiscretions had some entanglements uh yeah this is more of like a

02:35:06.240 now that i am truly committing to my faith now it's making sense of why this is in place because

02:35:14.240 it's not a good you gotta speak into the mic otherwise they can't hear you sorry um whether

02:35:19.600 you're religious or not sex is a very powerful energy exchange and if you think about it that's

02:35:24.240 as close as you're ever going to physically be with someone well i'm not asking why you're waiting

02:35:29.600 until marriage but you you you are waiting until marriage is that correct that is correct but has that

02:35:34.320 always been your standard it hasn't always been my standard when did your standard change last year

02:35:41.600 okay so you're 28 so at 27 yeah so previously

02:35:48.960 just like regular relationships indiscriminate sex like a couple times a week or what are we talking

02:35:52.800 about no no i just i in people with people i've dated that i've been in like committed relationships

02:35:58.880 with i mean just like everyone else okay you're intimate and then you break up and then you find

02:36:04.080 another person you're dating but um more recently just thinking it's not helpful to have all these

02:36:12.640 intimate connections with people it's not healthy for you and it's just not it actually is helpful

02:36:20.240 to weed out people because then you're not basing things off of like a primal physical connection

02:36:25.600 though that is important it's very important but you're forced to see what compatibilities you truly

02:36:31.120 have and if you genuinely enjoy being around this person so if you take sex out of that equation

02:36:36.720 while it is a very important element you can't be the only one

02:36:40.480 terp 93 donated 99 dollars yeah thank you mickey let me fly you out to dc and have a day date

02:36:47.920 you're so effing pretty amy keep bringing the sass love it to what's i said i love that question

02:36:55.680 we put so much pressure on loving only one person romantically he ain't never become cringe buzzword

02:37:01.520 toe yo jt thank you man appreciate it that was really nice thank you there you go uh do you take

02:37:08.880 he wants to fly you out to dc that's amazing do i get to know anything about him first no that's it

02:37:15.760 just his user handle that sounds like how i get murdered actually so i'm gonna i'm gonna say like

02:37:20.720 thank you but why don't we uh have a conversation first okay jt if you want to send another chat let

02:37:26.560 us know age details hi tell us tell us the details um okay thank you man appreciate it uh so that one

02:37:35.760 came through we got all those caught up let me just check for we have this one oh wait we already did

02:37:41.680 that one wait wait we got okay i have a question for you because we gotta pull up your instagram really

02:37:47.520 quick um my instagram yeah okay we gotta pull your up up your instagram um nick if you can pull up

02:37:56.000 nikki's instagram por favor oh gosh so while we wait for nick to do that i have a question for you

02:38:02.720 if your boyfriend asked you to make your instagram private and or take down any revealing photos

02:38:08.800 bikini photos for example would you do it yeah why not scroll down

02:38:17.520 yeah i think yours is so tasteful it's really i mean i'm from redondo beach like i i'm at the beach a

02:38:25.120 lot i'm are these like are these bad no it's okay i mean i can i can handle some criticism if they're

02:38:32.960 too much i'll take them down don't mind but you wouldn't object to if your boyfriend no i no i really

02:38:39.120 don't if he could say like hey you know what this is a little bit too much skin for the whole world to

02:38:44.000 see what do you think about taking it down i'd be like you know what yes but you know you have to

02:38:49.200 remember that goes both ways but then again like i'd be like though but here's the thing i'm gonna

02:38:53.600 be honest like if my man like looked really good with the shirt off be like yo let me post these

02:38:57.920 like i don't think it's that big of a deal but i think sure where's your what's your intention with

02:39:03.520 it i would say uh for both for both like posting a certain picture what's your intention is it a thirst

02:39:09.760 trap is it just like hey here's me at the beach or i think that matters context matters but i don't

02:39:15.680 have any objections to taking things down i care about this person more i care about the people on

02:39:19.680 my instagram feed so okay yeah interesting interesting did you think i was gonna say no

02:39:27.120 i respect men i love men they're one but i do think it's different like if a guy has like shirtless

02:39:33.040 beach pics i think that's a little different than a woman who has like bikini pics really why why

02:39:38.240 because the attack the level of attention that men and women receive is vastly different and then

02:39:43.280 the way that men and women flirt but is that very different like the attention she gets is it it's

02:39:49.440 not well i mean if you're posting like that kind of content then it's like double standard

02:39:58.560 what do you mean like if the man does it it's okay and if the woman does it if the woman does it

02:40:04.080 well there's all kinds of double standards yeah true the man's not gonna get the attention though

02:40:08.960 he will from me i think that should matter interesting i think men talk about it a little

02:40:15.120 bit publicly differently than women do like i think men look at women's instagrams and they

02:40:20.480 go and they talk about it with everyone and anyone whereas like women we do go look of course we do

02:40:25.920 like we yeah we look at men's and like oh like that guy who looks great it looks so we do do that

02:40:32.000 we just don't talk about it in the same way like many conversations and i also think what matters

02:40:36.160 most here when it comes to a woman's instagram and having her delete stuff is what was the

02:40:40.400 intention behind posting it i was just going through my own it doesn't matter what the intention

02:40:45.040 is oh i think it kind of does it's not fair though if you think about like if i post anything

02:40:51.360 there's gonna be some weird dude it's like oh show this and that it's like okay i don't control

02:40:56.240 what's coming out of his mouth i control what i'm doing well okay so look when it comes to intention

02:41:00.880 yes like perhaps intention does matter a little bit however the end result of what is ultimately

02:41:07.840 out there your your initial intention doesn't matter if the potential negative consequences

02:41:14.640 or impact on your relationship are the same because your intention like if those sorts of things are out

02:41:20.720 there and has a negative impact on the relationship in some way then brian do you want me to delete

02:41:28.240 pictures off my instagram i mean we're not dating we're not dating you you can do whatever you want

02:41:33.120 um well it's just interesting because i was having to i was having oh sorry well like i'm i'm kind of

02:41:39.120 like i don't i don't really care all that much like guys have different views on this um

02:41:48.880 however would it be my like leaning oh hey swordless merci beaucoup for the uh 20 gifted memberships

02:41:56.480 it'd be my slight preference for my girl to have like minimal social media presence minimal uh does

02:42:03.680 that mean you have to have a minimal social media presence well this is what i do for work there's

02:42:07.680 a difference is it though because no but there's like a normal girl who has no intention of making

02:42:14.240 money on social media is like could very well be posting degenerate photos on instagram are my photos

02:42:21.440 degenerate i'm not saying i'm not saying your photos are degenerate i'm speaking hypothetically

02:42:26.160 here but like if you're posting super revealing photos on instagram it's different and also you can

02:42:33.680 go to my instagram like i'm not i'm not posting uh you're not posting their straps no maybe you should

02:42:42.800 i mean i'm that's not the type of person i am but but uh

02:42:46.400 i don't know where i was going with this did you have a question there's a lot of questions here

02:42:52.240 no the the thing that i wanted to touch on was that it's different between men and women because

02:43:00.000 okay women run passive game like women don't really approach men but they'll put themselves in

02:43:06.800 positions where they could be approached by men they won't dm a man but they'll post pictures to lure

02:43:13.280 him into dming them via instagram social media so men are salesmen women are marketers

02:43:21.440 the difference is though when you get into a relationship there's an expectation that the guy

02:43:24.880 stop being a salesman and like approaching women however women were never approaching men to begin

02:43:32.000 with women were marketing themselves so women are continuously marketing themselves even when

02:43:37.280 they're in a relationship so that's kind of my qualm with it makes sense

02:43:45.840 a lot of people like don't have the capacity to see that nuanced distinction there

02:43:52.320 in a committed nuance but oh i think it just boils down to finding someone who shares the same values as

02:43:57.600 you it's like you don't even have to go big picture like okay this is what you want then go for that

02:44:03.680 yeah no but i mean yeah we are talking about like it happening oh hold on well i'll come back brian

02:44:10.480 can't post thirst traps because it would literally crash instagram he's a whole effing snack jk much

02:44:17.120 love bro very diverse panel this show keep up the good work yeah i think it's a really good panel tonight

02:44:21.280 um no i just there's there's differences between men and women and so like

02:44:26.800 you okay madison oh it was a sneeze okay i thought you're okay um like in a committed

02:44:35.520 relationship a man should stop pitching and a woman should stop advertising fair proposition

02:44:40.960 that's fair yeah i think i think that's very fair and especially like i mean there how do you guys feel

02:44:45.840 about like your man or someone you're talking to like fire emoji responding to girls instagram stories

02:44:51.600 absolutely not oh that was a very yeah okay yeah i think it depends on the intention as well

02:44:58.720 yeah it's like fire your your bikini posts weren't that out there but like if you're like you ever see

02:45:04.960 those only fan models where like they're bikini and they just tits are out yeah yeah it's that's

02:45:09.840 kind of what we're not looking for yeah good times good times okay so oh we okay we did that

02:45:17.520 hold on we got some more notes here from everybody um nikki you dated a guy from an

02:45:21.920 old nickelodeon show and he ended up being a huge racist huh who which which show oh please don't

02:45:29.600 it's gonna be i can't just just say it just say it just say it don't worry no there's like nobody

02:45:33.680 watching the show there's like two people watching no i can't do that it doesn't it doesn't matter

02:45:38.160 why but um i have shia labeouf no he was on the nickelodeon show wasn't it no i think that was

02:45:46.720 disney channel that was disney channel yeah that was disney channel uh no wasn't him i would

02:45:52.080 absolutely say it if it was shia labeouf um okay anyway uh you don't want to share i'm not going to

02:45:58.880 share who it was but yeah i ended up meeting him and i was thinking i'm like why do you you look so

02:46:04.160 familiar and he's like oh you know he kind of just brushed it off and i was like oh interesting

02:46:08.800 and then we're literally in the middle of like dinner and i was like oh my it hit me like just

02:46:14.560 so and i was like oh my gosh and i was like okay cool whatever then as the date like progressed he

02:46:21.680 just started saying some very outlandish things um i don't know if i can say yeah okay okay so yeah

02:46:29.120 never called him you also said most petty thing deal breaker slightly irrational deal breakers that

02:46:33.920 shouldn't be deal breakers but totally are mine is anyone who likes country music immediate no i

02:46:39.600 don't like country music i'm sorry i i can't it's too twangy turn the lock and i don't know what

02:46:45.760 that song is but i don't like it it's a deal breaker but you're aren't you like christian

02:46:50.480 conservative don't a lot of i know people like you don't like the try it in a small town try that in

02:46:56.160 a small town i'm from california i'm from los angeles i don't do i don't do that but ironically enough

02:47:02.080 yeah i do want someone who like knows how to survive like on a ranch or a farm or something

02:47:06.160 i'm like oh but i don't like country music it's terribly ironic and the irony is not lost on me

02:47:11.520 okay yeah not ideal for me good times good times um okay so we have claudia here you said

02:47:20.720 uh you're are you're a doctor correct yeah but as in phd not yeah i'm not an md

02:47:27.360 is it fair to is it fair to claim doctor yeah absolutely yeah of course yeah i've heard some

02:47:37.120 differing opinions on if it's fair to claim doctor is that your title yes technically phd

02:47:42.800 i have two phds i have two phds i'm in neurology and and in like clinical psychology so yeah into the

02:47:53.040 mic and i have a two phds in clinical psychology and neurology so like i and i now um august 14th

02:48:02.880 i'm gonna start um doing more neuroscience i'm gonna be in neuropsychology so i like help rehabilitate

02:48:10.000 you know people with tm like trauma brain injury and mapping out like the mris and seeing you know

02:48:17.280 now i have to predict since i can't do talk therapy anymore i have to predict their program

02:48:22.880 in order to have for them to have a better quality life so i absolutely do the heart of

02:48:28.480 work so yes i claim myself as a doctor okay so you work yeah so you said you want to talk about the

02:48:36.320 behavioral pattern on well your show your show my show yeah uh and the reason why all the women you

02:48:42.160 choose are what we call avatars what do you mean by that okay so when i noticed is that um you guys

02:48:49.120 speak hold on hold on let me just stop right here i need you directionally because you're like ducking

02:48:54.480 behind the mic i need you up on the mic and i need you speaking directly straight into it go ahead

02:48:59.360 okay so um well some of the past shows i've noticed that this that you're becoming that this show i saw some

02:49:06.240 of the past shows and a lot of these women i noticed that they um some of them are like would cop

02:49:14.720 start copying what they said to each other that's and get um and the word is actually not triggered

02:49:21.200 it's actually reactive abuse like so they would get ticks well no it's not semantics it's it's a

02:49:28.160 actual definition so and it's not your fault it's that they get very angry so they stop you actually

02:49:35.680 stop listening to each other and that's something i noticed and both of you guys are on defense and

02:49:42.240 so they literally stop listening to you guys and they're angry and by this time they're just saying

02:49:48.560 and spinning things and like not listening to what you're trying to say or whatever other panelists

02:49:55.040 is trying to say so like literally there's actually no debate happening and by this time that's why

02:50:01.840 they're walking out they're they're starting to get teary eyed or they're starting to rage so it's

02:50:07.600 pretty rare we have that i mean we had a couple people leave like leave the show obviously like i'm

02:50:13.200 i'm attempting to uh you know have debates with people so no yeah absolutely but i yeah i've seen

02:50:20.320 no and i and i understand that it's a show but i i've seen that like that some of the girls do get

02:50:27.120 you know pushed into something that gets them very angry they don't know yeah sure yeah no no

02:50:33.040 totally i'm sometimes no no absolutely and that's what makes your show very successful because honestly

02:50:38.640 i get really into it too but i see that that the more that they're pushed they're they're getting

02:50:45.440 they're getting they're becoming very reactive to the show and what that's usually in a psychology term

02:50:52.000 it's called um an an avatar because all of the girls start becoming um reactive just like they

02:50:58.960 are like they are um not all of them but for the most part like if they're close enough to each other

02:51:05.840 they all start reacting because they want to defend the girl the girl state even if it doesn't even

02:51:11.280 equalize to them or they didn't have that inspired idea before not always but i mean the the thing that

02:51:16.720 actually did i did agree with you on is uh like if one girl like the first girl that answers and if

02:51:23.760 she answers the question a certain way oftentimes what i have noticed is the like following girls will

02:51:30.160 like count like get in line behind what she said instead of actually voicing voicing their genuine

02:51:36.960 opinion or thought on a topic so i have noticed that where whoever sits in that chair kind of sets can

02:51:44.400 set the tone for the show and if like this person in the chair is like very you know kind of says

02:51:51.200 something reasonable like so the net the following girls are not going to be so inclined to be genuine

02:51:56.560 in their answer but uh you said that you also you dated comedians or actors are very wealthy men

02:52:03.360 yeah what's the wealthiest man you've ever any billionaires no multi-million multi-millionaires

02:52:08.560 yeah his network's like around 600 million yeah that's pretty good yeah pretty good nothing to uh

02:52:17.360 yeah okay um so you said modern dating is a mess that and you don't i don't participate men do not

02:52:26.160 know how to date and women are entitled um when you say men don't know how to date what do you mean

02:52:31.520 um like they don't pay for the first date agree for the la yeah thing is that i'm starting to find

02:52:37.680 it really hard to like find men speak into the mic oh sorry sorry dude oh sorry i said the same thing

02:52:44.720 sorry um yeah that i'm finding it hard for like men to like i like the traditional men so i feel like

02:52:51.280 i'm more like i but i will say that like i'm more like a foreign woman that i prefer men to be

02:52:59.040 more like like how foreign men treat foreign women sure so um yeah and like also i also think that some

02:53:08.080 women feel very entitled and they bring absolutely nothing to the table and they expect a lot from

02:53:15.040 men i'm not saying like i'm just generalizing some women that i like talk to and i've like been like

02:53:22.320 well what are you bringing to the table and they have absolutely nothing like nothing and i'm

02:53:29.360 literally and they want like a man who's literally like saying like i want him to make a million two

02:53:36.400 million three million and literally like they like think that all they have to do is be uh be pretty be

02:53:44.640 young or be like s or bring her aesthetic and that's it and i believe that you have to have some

02:53:52.480 something special some intellect be a good mother be have a low body count i agree because i don't want

02:53:59.760 even him to be like base chasing like young chasing like really basic young or not young let me take

02:54:07.120 that word out so like some basic trashy women when i've taken care of myself i have a low body count

02:54:14.400 and i have invested so much into my education for him to be like choosing just any trashy woman and

02:54:23.840 yeah well i mean date that so i mean not to bring this up again we already talked about this but

02:54:28.480 i mean you mentioned your education your educational achievements are not really going to make you

02:54:34.480 more attractive to a male partner okay but also i it's fantastic no good for you i agree but it doesn't

02:54:40.720 make you more attractive i know but okay that's fine but i also have other stuff that i bring to the

02:54:47.520 table because i know i'm going to be a good brother i know i'm going to be a good wife i have a low body

02:54:53.120 count for a reason i have a come from a good family and and i have a lot of other achievements

02:54:59.840 that a lot of women don't have so like that what achievements i have a book coming up i i have that

02:55:07.840 doesn't make you that's fantastic but it doesn't make you more attractive to it doesn't matter i already

02:55:13.920 know okay i already know you're talking about this stuff okay no wait go ahead go ahead it's true okay

02:55:19.600 let's take away my achievement i already know the status that i can the status of the men that i can

02:55:25.760 date just from live experience my brain already processes that so it already knows like what i can

02:55:33.200 date what i can't date so okay let me just from that take i already know if my attract like i will

02:55:41.120 consider myself a solid six sure so oh we should do that we got to do the rate yeah so but with

02:55:47.360 whatever reason this can take me here so that's what i'm saying even if i'm not like uh like a 10

02:55:55.120 i already know what i can date so that's from where i go based on even without any of my achievements but

02:56:01.600 i don't want somebody who is so non-selective that that they will literally date any beautiful i love it

02:56:08.560 i love it here's the thing though when it comes to the achievements and the education and stuff

02:56:14.560 that's fantastic for you on an individual level but i i don't think you should cite those things as

02:56:20.000 things that will make you more attractive to a male partner let me just finish now that would be like

02:56:25.760 me telling all the girls here like back in 2019 when world of warcraft classic came out i leveled four

02:56:31.360 characters to 60 i had four level 60s in world of warcraft i had a 60 rogue uh a 60 undead rogue

02:56:40.720 a 60 orc warrior a 60 warlock undead warlock and a 60 undead mage now on my rogue i got perdition's

02:56:50.320 blade i had some decent gear on my rogue on my warrior um i got uh death is a deathbringer from

02:56:57.600 from the next onyxia i believe it's deathbringer um you know i was in the top raiding guild we were

02:57:04.400 speedrunning molten core bwl like we were we were monopolizing the world bosses azar ghosts lord

02:57:13.920 kazakh uh let me see what else oh when when the nightmare dragons came out the emerald dragons we were

02:57:20.640 getting all the dragons too and they spawned four at a time so like we were on we were dominant on my

02:57:27.040 world of warcraft pv it was a pvp server too we had a bunch of rank 14s that okay what i just said

02:57:34.880 illustrates like when you're talking about your achievements and your education like let me say

02:57:40.880 something else women don't care about my world of warcraft achievements in the same way that men

02:57:46.880 don't care okay about okay in order for me to like have been like to be like uh uh to get on

02:57:53.760 telemedicine like despierta america which is a huge show which is a huge show you don't care about your

02:57:59.520 status either men don't care about your status either let me i have to audition five times and it's

02:58:05.760 really hard to be a spanish tv and mind you i was four years i believe it and you have to be they put you in

02:58:12.480 really tiny dresses men don't care about that wait no you have to be a certain level of attractiveness

02:58:18.880 to be on a spanish tv show because they like girls with like in miami in miami where like there's like

02:58:25.920 a lot of girls so that are extremely beautiful i had to audition five times so that also takes me to

02:58:32.400 another level of like being like i am this so if men don't care if you've been on telemundo some men do

02:58:45.360 okay well that's for you brian but other guys well i don't know i'm not saying i agree with her by any

02:58:51.040 means but i do have a question sure do you think tom brady cares oh about his like what like like his

02:58:58.160 ex-wife was a model you know what i mean like in terms of like being beautiful and being on certain

02:59:03.120 things like covers of magazines like a lot of like really really successful men they partner with like

02:59:07.680 the most attractive successful women and i think it reflects that yeah yeah that's a that's a part of

02:59:12.240 it that's because when you move in that those sorts of circles 93 donated 99 sorry to cut off the party

02:59:21.280 nikki i'm 30 and fun nick you are the fire today just left biotech

02:59:26.960 proud simp for you cue to the little boys in the chats hating i'll dm your nick your ig is fire

02:59:33.760 and i brag if that was my gf's page brian blm blm blm based um very beautiful okay there you would

02:59:43.440 this be the first whatever marriage i know right whatever marriage we need to wrap up pretty soon

02:59:49.760 uh we do need to wrap up pretty soon um but uh we'll go for a few more minutes um

02:59:57.360 which probably will turn out to be a little more because i do need to finish up a couple things

03:00:00.640 before we wrap um you were asking me something i i this is not my opinion by any means i'm literally

03:00:07.200 like okay tom brady giselle yeah yeah okay um well when you're like moving in those sorts of circles

03:00:13.680 you're going to be meeting both men and women that are of a certain status yeah so but i mean it's

03:00:19.280 plausible would have tom brady still gone for her had she same beauty but without the

03:00:27.040 modeling alkylades and she's the same person that she was yeah i assume so i mean same like

03:00:33.600 leonardo dicaprio it's like always high status models oh my god ab check thank you for the 50 man

03:00:39.040 appreciate it uh that actually triggers the fit check so what we're going to have everybody do

03:00:42.800 we're going to do a little fit check you can tell us you know if you're wearing gucci or prada or

03:00:48.160 what whatever that thing is she wins the check for the prize yeah she's in the most gorgeous

03:00:54.000 are you japanese i'm asian wow that is cultural is it though is it it was gifted to me by a japanese

03:01:02.720 exactly it was gifted to me by a japanese person to be worn as aesthetically as i wanted to

03:01:08.720 cultural appropriate i mean but you're not japanese so it's not cultural appropriation it's not

03:01:14.960 who started clothes then we're all appropriate also this like fixation on cultural appropriation is

03:01:20.160 pretty much existent in the west but come back to southeast asia we would love to see you in

03:01:24.560 traditional barong which is a traditional um men's costume so it's a different perspective there i i just

03:01:32.320 point of clarification uh this cultural appropriation term is a joke i think uh but

03:01:39.760 but uh okay let's do a stand up let's do a little fit check everybody so i'm wearing like a show pony

03:01:45.760 whoa whoops uh if everyone can just stand up and show their fit um all right there we go we got the

03:01:53.600 the fit going here okay the kimono all right okay culturally appropriating madison what about you

03:02:02.320 we got madison here um love it all right she's got i don't know what you call those those are

03:02:10.560 chinos some genie pants or something um is that what they're called genie pants

03:02:14.720 genie pants yeah i think so they're classy all right thank you everybody you can sit down all right

03:02:19.280 there you go thank you uh was that ab check thank you man appreciate it um yeah tom brady giselle i

03:02:26.240 mean it's you know you know i don't know where we were at with that one did you have further follow

03:02:32.000 up or i mean like i said it's not my opinion i'm just literally seeking to understand the full breadth

03:02:36.640 of your statement that men don't care like i think i think some men care like where their woman is that

03:02:41.440 like i don't see tom brady dating a regular normal girl with no status no fame no money well i mean

03:02:48.720 he also just got divorced so there's from a supermodel that was famous before they got

03:02:55.280 together well that's another reason not to get married look at all these hyper successful attractive

03:02:59.920 men exactly who are getting divorced yeah so if they can't keep a girl what makes you think you can

03:03:06.080 um true can't argue with that so uh let's see um we have something from si si that is that how you say

03:03:16.480 your name yes si you said dating with a checklist what did you mean by that oh it's a topic i wanted

03:03:23.520 to like open up like do you guys date with a checklist what's your mind wait what do you guys

03:03:30.960 date with a checklist in mind do do got as do you do yes do yeah well let's start with you

03:03:37.840 do you have a checklist i have an idea not necessarily a checklist okay let's start with

03:03:42.640 physical traits and then let's talk about personality not so much physical traits more on intellect intellect

03:03:49.200 okay that that's it he just has to be smart but he can be can he be obese if you are smart then in a

03:03:58.080 way you're chubby you care about yourself okay i get it wait what if you are smart and you're

03:04:02.800 self-aware then obviously there's a part of you that cares about yourself your health that's not

03:04:07.280 true so he looks good well is it not if you're self-aware self-aware that something is wrong there's

03:04:14.320 there's different kinds of intellect right yeah that's what i'm saying it's like intellect more

03:04:18.400 towards self-awareness right are you trying to improve yourself but i'm sure there's people with

03:04:23.280 high iqs or who are very smart who are not yeah that's why i'm specifying the kind of intellect i'm

03:04:27.360 looking for so okay so someone who's smart enough and in good health in a self-aware mode good yeah

03:04:35.760 because i was thinking like christopher hitchens was a very intelligent guy but he was not a

03:04:40.480 particularly healthy individual but um so that's it just smart and mostly i that's why i said it's an

03:04:49.120 idea because i was asking you guys i'm pretty sure it doesn't really matter are you five she's five

03:04:54.720 five flat are you sure you're not four eleven and three quarters i'm sure okay don't worry about

03:04:59.360 that all right well can nick can you get the tape measure um sure no i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding

03:05:08.000 what else any physical traits not so much honestly what about dad bod are you cool dad bod

03:05:13.600 uh it doesn't matter honestly what i can get behind dad bod yeah okay um so checklist you guys have a

03:05:25.760 checklist um yeah as i think as long as they're um they they're smart and they're kind i really like

03:05:33.760 kind people kinds people yeah okay um i want complete package i want a complete package i want them to look

03:05:43.120 good um i want them their height i want them to be minimum six feet six foot tall i want them to be

03:05:51.680 very intelligent emotionally intelligent i want them to be very kind wait they have to be six feet

03:05:57.920 six foot at least at least how tall are you five six but i wear high heels all like most of the time

03:06:03.600 so and then my high heels are like like crazy so and then i don't want to feel taller okay so i cannot

03:06:10.560 like uh settle with my high heels i'm committed six feet minimum that's like only 50 15 of men are

03:06:16.720 over six feet i know you're kind of limiting your pool i know what if the guy is otherwise a great guy

03:06:22.320 he's just 5 10. i just don't know i think maybe because my character is a little bit aggressive and

03:06:28.720 they're dominant and then if they're shorter and then i feel like i'm dominating them completely so that's

03:06:34.160 so you need an extra dominant guy because you're kind of in you're more masculine or you're dominant

03:06:41.200 yourself so you need a you need a guy to overcompensate in a way yeah okay all right uh

03:06:50.240 where were we did you answer i don't know i answered i don't really have a checklist right

03:06:54.560 now i'm just being open-minded stop the cow i really seriously though really i really don't have a

03:07:00.000 checklist right now we were actually talking about this in the car on the way here that i'm kind of in a

03:07:03.360 place right now where i'm starting to figure out what i want because i don't know right now okay

03:07:09.440 what is that i'm done that's it that's it should i keep going around the table oh me um not really

03:07:18.080 i just really look for compatibility like attraction obviously and it'd be nice if he's like like better

03:07:25.760 than me like yeah wonderful uh for me not really i think my checklist has also changed throughout time

03:07:35.840 when i was young i was definitely a lot more ignorant and i don't think there was a checklist

03:07:40.560 um there probably would be now if i was in kind of the dating world um but i am not

03:07:47.840 and if i were to be i think the number one thing definitely would be faith

03:07:52.160 um a man of faith because i think that opens up a lot more realms that are important to me so yeah

03:08:00.560 agreed yeah definitely he has to love jesus um and that'll that'll usually you'll be a certain type

03:08:06.640 of person so someone who's honest loyal who values commitment and who also wants a family

03:08:11.440 um i need him to be smarter than me um just very into being able to think critically and not just

03:08:20.880 kind of blindly go with whatever is in front of him um and yeah i mean i'd like a tall guy that'd be

03:08:27.600 great i kind of want him to be in shape i try to be do you guys hear that thumping is that one of you

03:08:32.000 guys yeah guys can you stop thumping please um yeah no i mean physically um it's not i had a really

03:08:40.880 big crush on prince eric when i was a kid but now i'm like okay he doesn't have to be dark hair and

03:08:45.520 blue eyes anymore as long as i find you attractive like that's totally fine but someone who's like

03:08:50.800 athletic i can't have you just kind of be lazy and not work out because i want to do that for the

03:08:55.680 rest of our lives so somebody takes care of himself checklist yeah somebody that's nice sweet

03:09:03.600 funny traditional values somebody that's old school like me i gotta say that only some real

03:09:10.000 descriptions nice old school i like old school all right i've i've got a checklist i've written it

03:09:15.120 down 18 to 25 no that's not i my 18 to 45 how about that um dark hair

03:09:25.680 keep in mind these are these aren't there's like deal breaker deal maker slight preference

03:09:31.120 strong preference so i'm not gonna but so i'd say slight preference for dark hair slight preference

03:09:37.360 light eyes but don't really like it's not like oh i've got like i date women with dark eyes um

03:09:43.280 prefer probably a moderate prep moderate medium preference for short the shorter the better

03:09:51.040 uh large labia the bigger the better soft-spoken a little shy a little introverted um let's see

03:09:58.720 uh soft calming voice uh her her parents made her do at least three years of violin or cello

03:10:08.400 that's important um yeah i want peace don't want like a really combative woman

03:10:13.360 um little or little or no makeup prep pretty strong preference for no plastic surgery um let's see

03:10:28.640 um 19 pleasant no i mean like i said i date women around my age i date date a bit older um

03:10:36.800 um that's a cute what if she plays the guitar i said that's a cute list i like it yeah i'm kind

03:10:45.200 of joking about the violin or cello thing but that yeah um and uh low body count is it would be good

03:10:54.800 do you offer a low body count do i offer a low body count i don't reveal my body count

03:10:59.600 so why should she then what do you mean like if that's what you're looking for but

03:11:03.600 like are you gonna tell her would i yeah i would privately if she asked i would tell her what my

03:11:09.920 body count is but i don't think as a guy if you have a high body count that you can only date women

03:11:15.920 who have high body counts i don't think it makes you a hypocrite it would make you a hypocrite if you

03:11:22.400 were to say women shouldn't have high body counts but you contribute yourself to have to giving women

03:11:32.160 a high body count although well can a guy contribute to a woman having a high body count because who

03:11:40.000 else well sort of sort of but like as a guy on an individual level you're only one body so

03:11:51.520 you know you know what i mean now as a guy i think if you like play with a girl who

03:11:58.560 is desirous of a long-term relationship and you like feign that you want something serious when

03:12:06.000 really your intentions are to just sleep with her and then ghost her then that's true i would say that

03:12:11.040 could contribute to another body a lot but uh i don't think men should do that um because i'm well

03:12:19.440 me personally i have no interest in one night stands or sleeping with somebody once but uh

03:12:23.600 yeah i don't i don't think there's a double standard because i don't think

03:12:30.080 i don't think in order for you to desire something in a partner that you yourself need to possess it

03:12:38.480 is that kind of hypocritical though i don't think it's hypocritical because there's

03:12:42.800 i think that's just normal so it's normal for guys to sleep around you gotta speak into the mic guys

03:12:49.040 so it's normal for guys to sleep around and then kind of i'm not saying i'm not saying it's normal

03:12:54.320 i do think there's differences when it comes to body count i think men typically tend to care about

03:12:58.720 it more and i think women typically tend to care about the less i'm perfectly if a woman wants to

03:13:04.000 date a guy who's a virgin more power to you that's totally that's a totally fine preference for a woman

03:13:09.360 to have i happen to think it's the case though that women don't have a strong preference for dating

03:13:14.240 men who are virgins like women who have previous sexual partners i don't think that's a very strong

03:13:19.680 preference for women because i think i guess who's more religious a religious woman might be inclined

03:13:25.440 to do that but like for example you don't need to possess a trait to find it desirable in the partner

03:13:32.880 for example a woman who is broke could be attracted to a guy who's rich need she also make as much money

03:13:41.840 as him to be attracted to him because of his wealth i don't think so i think that's just normal

03:13:48.080 same with humor a woman need not be funny to be attracted to a guy who's funny

03:13:54.480 i'm not saying women can't be funny but what i'm saying is there are plenty of women out there who

03:13:58.640 probably aren't fine like i would say if you ask i if you ask every single woman would you like a guy

03:14:04.640 who's funny every single woman's gonna say yes i'd like a guy who's funny i think a lot of people look

03:14:09.360 for are they funny themselves probably not people that they don't have themselves too like there's a

03:14:14.000 lot of people that do that yeah so i agree with that well and i think it also comes down to instinct

03:14:18.320 too because one of the things that you're bringing up is also innate in men generally is that they

03:14:22.320 don't want to be with a woman who has slept around and it's not necessarily a rational fear but it is

03:14:28.560 in like all animals that's like why when a male lion takes over a pride he will often kill the young

03:14:34.400 cubs of the other pride because men have kind of innate in them a fear of a woman bearing the child

03:14:41.680 of another man yes innate competition and so that's one of the things that you're touching on is it may

03:14:46.400 not matter as much to women but it does matter to men and there is a reason for that it's kind of

03:14:51.600 in their nature to some extent yeah i mean then when it comes to body count there's just another

03:14:56.320 biological factor and that comes down to paternity uncertainty yes so a woman who's had a lot of

03:15:01.440 sexual partners and this is like on a this is not always necessarily on a uh a conscious

03:15:09.120 cognitive cognitive level but a woman who's promiscuous uh at least previously before the

03:15:15.280 advent of birth control a woman who is promiscuous and let's say she gets pregnant there's no way to

03:15:21.680 guarantee who the father is paternity testing is something that came about in the 1980s so

03:15:27.760 back in the day like okay let's say a woman has 10 husbands who's and they're all sleeping with her

03:15:35.840 who's the father prior to paternity testing you don't know whereas if a woman gets pregnant

03:15:42.640 she knows if a woman has 10 or excuse me if a man has 10 wives and they're loyal to him you know

03:15:52.640 who the father is or sorry excuse me the women know hold on i'm losing like your argument is like

03:16:02.000 collapsing on itself a little bit i'm like let him finish let him finish no i got i got tongue tied so

03:16:07.520 okay a woman who has 10 husbands right okay you don't know who the father is but a man who has 10 wives

03:16:14.560 and of course assuming that the 10 wives are all loyal to him you know who the father is in all instances

03:16:21.040 you know who the mother is of course the woman always knows who the mother is because you birthed

03:16:25.600 the child but men don't have that same just immediate knowledge i don't want a man with 10 baby like

03:16:32.480 baby mamas i'm gonna be honest i don't want that yeah sure but the difference is is that as a guy

03:16:38.240 there there's never going to be a question as to like since women are the ones that give birth

03:16:44.480 there's never going to be an uncertainty about maternity there's no such thing about there's

03:16:49.360 no such thing as maternity uncertainty but for men it's a very genuine fear that they could

03:16:54.800 potentially be raising a child that they think is theirs that's not that's pretty much the biggest l

03:17:00.000 that a guy can take in his life is to raise a kid that you think is yours that's not yes because

03:17:07.040 it no i understand that yeah that's that's not great i guess i'm i'm feeling it's really bad

03:17:11.440 it's really bad i understand that i guess i'm coming at like from the opposite perspective of

03:17:15.520 like i would feel really crappy if my husband said he was at work and he has a whole second family

03:17:20.800 like wait you committed to me like wait a minute hold on you have all of it like i was listening to

03:17:24.000 usher on the way here and he's i was listening to confessions one and two and i'm like if this if

03:17:28.480 my man made a song like this like you're so important to me but i got my side chick pregnant

03:17:33.280 sorry she's keeping it like wait what hold on sure and it's the same the same idea like you want

03:17:39.920 you want your person to be committed to you and i think that should go both ways

03:17:42.800 go both ways you know don't sleep around it's not great for you sure and and certainly that

03:17:47.680 could be a fear for women because there's certain financial ramifications if your husband has

03:17:53.440 it's like a respect thing yeah another i don't know what the term has has kids with another woman

03:17:59.200 because then his resources might be diverted and cannot be solely focused on and i'm kind of coming

03:18:06.720 at this from an evolutionary perspective the survival of your family however it's different like that

03:18:13.840 that's a little different than like paternity fraud where this man who potentially

03:18:22.640 you're like you're fucking with his ability to um like he thinks he's propagated his bloodline but like

03:18:30.800 that's not his kid totally so that's that's like when women do that it's so wrong what is it what

03:18:37.840 is the sleeping around means sleeping around yeah yeah what does that mean like how many able to call

03:18:42.960 like oh like what's a high body count yeah what is it it depends on your age depends on how old you are

03:18:49.760 yeah so i don't know somebody my age 30 40. well speaking of that should we let's go around the table

03:18:56.080 what's everyone's body count not answering that i'm like not answering that i mean well yeah you

03:19:01.760 just brought it up so so we haven't even rated ourselves yet yeah we gotta do that we gotta

03:19:05.840 rate ourselves we gotta do that and we're gonna wrap we're gonna wrap 10 minutes we're gonna wrap

03:19:09.120 in 10 minutes i'm not gonna talk about what is my body yeah you go first brian you go first you go first

03:19:14.320 we'll start with you yeah i'm gonna talk i'm gonna say until i was 32 years old i was

03:19:21.200 only slept with one man in my life so that's that was my life until you were 32 yep but you're now 42

03:19:30.800 so a lot can happen in a decade yeah so that's what i'm saying so what is it sleeping around means

03:19:35.840 if you're dating someone once a year is that sleeping around is that if you're dating someone

03:19:41.440 once every two years is that sleeping around what is sleeping around means sleeping around

03:19:46.400 like just banging someone new every weekend like either either they're being very short durations

03:19:51.760 between sexual partners or sleeping with multiple people at the same time okay so sleeping around

03:19:57.280 like if i would say if you're you have one new sexual partner i mean even less than this but let's

03:20:04.240 say one new sexual partner a week i would say that's sleeping around also if you have one person that

03:20:10.240 you're sleeping with and you're sleeping with other people that i would say that's sleeping around

03:20:13.680 so yeah okay even if there's not crossover or there's not overlap like you sleep with one guy

03:20:22.400 for one week and then another guy for another week even if there's no overlap you can still be sleeping

03:20:26.240 around i typically tend to think of it though if there is some overlap that's more so body count

03:20:32.480 i don't know i don't sit and count them plus 10 plus 20. wait can we stop can we stop thumping on

03:20:38.480 the oh yes yes yes sorry my downstairs i date between one to two people per year sometimes one

03:20:46.000 to two per every two three years okay i only sleep with my serious boyfriends i've had three so three

03:20:56.880 stop the cow okay you're a hoe if you answer the question you're a hoe if you don't answer the

03:21:03.760 question so i'm not gonna answer that's not true just not true you can answer yeah no judgment this

03:21:08.000 is a safe what's it called the safe space this is the chat's not ignore i pass ignore the chat

03:21:14.720 nope forget what i said no matter what i do i'm gonna get called a barracks bunny even though i'm not

03:21:19.360 i never have been uh plus 10 or i'm not answering what about you i've only been in monogamous

03:21:25.040 relationships and i've never had one night stands so that's that's it you've only what i've only been in

03:21:30.640 in monogamous relationships and i've never had one never had that one night stand okay

03:21:37.280 seven i'm not saying oh okay that's fine what about you uh three billion um just kidding that's

03:21:43.600 private so three billion

03:21:52.880 um well i think my parents are watching so i'm gonna say over five under 15 just to be super

03:21:59.200 careful sure that's fair yeah thanks pass my dad's watching there you have it ladies and

03:22:06.400 gentlemen i don't answer that question all right there you have it there you have it we do have

03:22:11.760 something here from mr stifler ask everyone to right there looks on a scale of one to ten we'll

03:22:16.000 go around the table on this go ahead ten oh into the mic please ten six i don't know if the camera

03:22:22.880 was on you hold one more time ten six yeah i'd say six is it for the fit or like your physical

03:22:31.200 appearance looks on the scale of i don't know who am i comparing it with though just your own

03:22:36.400 self-assessment of your own however you that it's hard because i would not go there so i go there no

03:22:42.000 answer i don't want to say you can go there i don't have to you don't have to i don't want to but you

03:22:47.760 could yeah i i don't want to you could go there i don't want to but you you could i already said no

03:22:53.600 why is it being pushed when i already said no so but you okay so you don't want to rate yourself no

03:22:59.680 so are you a 10. how do you how do you feel about yourself i think i feel happy as myself

03:23:07.680 yeah exactly so i feel happy that's why i don't need i don't have the need to answer this like you you

03:23:13.520 have to give me a parameter like to compare myself with then i'm going to answer oh if i give it so if

03:23:18.720 i pull up a photo of a girl you will make a compare okay actually hold on i take that back no you you

03:23:25.440 cannot rescind your i could you can wait why not why not i could i could retract it yeah i could say no

03:23:34.880 of course you can do whatever you want yep um kristen kruik

03:23:38.960 i don't know whatever we'll move on what about you um i'm not really sure um maybe 6.5 or 7.

03:23:50.160 um i would say probably a seven or an eight there's always room for improvement

03:23:54.160 um but i think i'm working on myself doing a good job

03:23:59.360 solid 7.8

03:24:03.040 seven

03:24:03.360 jesus christ okay uh she said eight she said eight uh i give myself a six maybe 6.9 on a good

03:24:13.520 day uh i'll just say this there's no tens at the table sorry i'm sorry but i think it's it's not

03:24:20.400 about how you're gonna judge me it's about how i'm gonna feel about myself and like even the whole

03:24:25.200 world is gonna come and tell me oh i think you're this but it's about how i feel about myself so i'm

03:24:29.920 gonna base it on that because if i sit here i'm gonna wait to see oh you say you said i'm five

03:24:35.040 you said i'm four you said i'm three i'm on a seven then who am i is i'm waiting here to judge me

03:24:40.640 so like i think i'm not gonna wait and see who's gonna judge me okay all right we i mean

03:24:49.280 the the whole ratings scale though it's not so much about like you can claim to be a like for example

03:24:54.720 i could claim to be a billionaire but if my assets don't reflect that i'm a billionaire

03:25:02.560 i'm not so they're neat there's some basis in reality but you don't even know me how can you

03:25:07.440 tell me if i'm a 10 it's not about your personality the question is specifically looks so i mean i'm

03:25:12.400 looking at you right now you said like in general it's just it's just a little question that's yeah

03:25:18.640 for the sake of time i need to move on from that but uh we have alex p here unless she has her cab

03:25:23.840 she's a veteran of foreign war not a combat veteran the cab is a is a badge um that some uh

03:25:29.840 get provided uh when they've been in an exchange of fire or uh some kind of uh combat action and

03:25:38.160 listen the the attack on me because i'm a military veteran i just have this to say listen i've never

03:25:43.600 understood why somebody else in the military would dog or down put anybody else in the military like

03:25:49.280 if you were in the military period i'm proud of you no matter what you did or no matter what your

03:25:52.640 careers whoever's commenting these things i don't know my career and um things i'm really proud of

03:25:57.520 my military service i got a lot out of it i gave a lot and if you're in the military i love you and

03:26:02.080 i love your service and i appreciate you and i'm not going to fight with you all right alex p there you

03:26:07.040 have it that's a mic drop yeah just to finish reading he said we can trash veterans if we are vets

03:26:12.160 we have the card it's clear that the way bender the offender has communicated that he is probably a

03:26:16.240 veteran for hr in the army is still hr it wasn't my only job but i love hr and even if you're in the

03:26:23.600 military doing hr or mailroom or whatever i'm proud of you there you have it okay we have matthew

03:26:28.480 saturn hey as a rancher in texas noted lol the reason i asked is because men women treat money

03:26:33.120 very differently in a relationship ie women own most of the debt in the states the richest man of babylon

03:26:39.040 wealth grows wherever men exert energy okay matthew saturn thank you for your very generous

03:26:46.720 super chat buffy vegas brian on my contact asap i have 57 million views would like to talk with you

03:26:52.400 bro you're you my dms bro the dms this is true the girl from rocky four i'm five foot eight i'm here to

03:26:59.760 tell you that led many men and i've made many men rich it ain't the size of the dog in the fight but the

03:27:05.040 size of the fight in the dog p.s you're too old too choosy oh thank you all right there you have it

03:27:14.160 wow they're they're out for blood tonight guys okay uh then we have a chat here from jt nikki i'm 30 and

03:27:22.320 fun employed right now might apply to med school next year not positive yet if that was my girlfriend's

03:27:27.680 ig i'd show that off to my boys in the heartbeat jt don't don't take anything down

03:27:34.720 to the chat yes i'm shamelessly a simp grow some balls blm uh yeah i was about to say it's kind of

03:27:41.600 simpy bro come on bro come on show you show off your girl to your boys i don't know i don't know about

03:27:50.000 that i believe in being discreet with like i'm not going to show my male friends look at my girlfriend

03:27:56.880 i don't know that's kind of she's totally real she goes into the school check out my girlfriend

03:28:01.360 that's just i don't know all right but hey teach their own jt appreciate your patronage all right

03:28:05.520 we have raven it doesn't take skill to get on telemundo oh it does take skill to have all of

03:28:12.880 the world bosses on rotational farm status on the pvp server just saying what's up okay

03:28:20.640 whatever what are those words i don't know what a pvp we had them on player versus player yeah pvp

03:28:28.160 oh yeah yeah of course of course yeah of course of course yeah that thing sure yeah yeah pvp no big

03:28:33.520 deal no big deal you know uh okay that's it for the chats here let me get a couple less oh my god

03:28:42.400 okay let me get a few more things and then we're gonna wrap so aubrey you had the story about you

03:28:46.880 cheated on your high school boyfriend of five years why don't you tell us that story uh give us

03:28:52.000 a plot synopsis on that oh my gosh well yes this was i graduated high school in 2016 we had been

03:28:57.760 dating since we were in middle school um and then all the way throughout high school um that's why i

03:29:02.560 kind of stuttered when you asked if it was my longest relationship because i actually think that

03:29:05.760 one was a little longer um but yeah anyways we were each other's first in pretty much everything

03:29:11.680 um he did finagle with another girl um in a brief moment when our parents made us break up

03:29:17.360 um and i think i was kind of just held that jealousy in my heart quite a bit i was just really young and

03:29:21.680 really immature um so we did um like i said we were each other's first um he was mine and everything

03:29:29.040 and um anyways i was just kind of being pursued um by this guy in high school who was a virgin and he

03:29:36.480 was like the only virgin in our high school at the time and uh the girls really liked that a lot of

03:29:42.000 girls were really into this guy and he just had it out for me for whatever reason he despised my

03:29:47.840 boyfriend um and i used to vent to him quite a lot when i was really young and um to this guy who was

03:29:55.680 a virgin because he was my friend and uh anyways he just kind of pursued me to the point where ultimately

03:30:00.960 i was just kind of put in a in a pretty weird situation right before i went off to college

03:30:05.040 and ultimately i decided he point blank looked at me and told me that if i went to college without

03:30:11.280 ever hooking up with him um that i would completely regret it and i was 18 and super vulnerable and i was

03:30:17.200 like all right i guess i will um so we did and i felt an extreme amount of shame uh for about a week or

03:30:25.120 so and after that i actually told him i told my boyfriend that i cheated on him right before we were

03:30:30.800 about to move out to hawaii together to go to school and um he ultimately drove away said and a

03:30:40.480 lot of other nasty words and um that is the very summarized version loose energy donated

03:30:48.640 ryan your tolerance for these bad faith 304 cappers is insane they won't answer truthfully because they

03:30:56.720 have had more bodies than the whole john wick franchise especially the one in back l4 all the

03:31:02.480 ladies for wasting our time stop capping who's the one in the back kiki

03:31:09.040 uh um by the way lpe that's the equivalent of like small dick energy it's like the

03:31:18.400 you know big dick okay um oh yeah well i did just see one comment i did want to say that i know

03:31:25.040 that i did say vulnerable and i totally do take responsibility for what happened i was just

03:31:29.040 saying i was vulnerable because i was talking about how i was young but i do completely take

03:31:32.560 responsibility that is why i ultimately told him because i was you know at a at a point mature

03:31:39.120 enough to realize okay i'm maybe gonna marry this guy one day and to sit here and and commit vows to

03:31:43.840 this man who i haven't been faithful to when he's been faithful to me um made me feel really bad about

03:31:48.960 myself and so ultimately i knew that there was a chance i could lose the relationship or there was a chance he

03:31:53.920 could maybe forgive me um and he didn't and we have not been together since so yeah that's kind

03:32:00.240 of my thing okay all right um yeah totally i i definitely proud of you yeah i definitely don't

03:32:07.600 stand by once a cheater always a cheater i think that's so silly and anytime people say it i'm like

03:32:11.920 oh my gosh come on and and all the people in high school were cheating on each other anyways i just

03:32:16.560 had enough you know womanhood to tell them that i actually did it yeah that's just kind of non-sequitur

03:32:24.080 i just want you know in case anybody's watching i would like to point out you know this is a very

03:32:29.600 busy thoroughfare there are even at all hours of the night there are loud as you just heard

03:32:38.080 there's a there's a motorcycle that just passed by you know you know i'm just saying just saying okay

03:32:44.800 all right um did you wrap up on your thing yeah and basically he ended up taking it to twitter

03:32:50.240 and i was from a very small town so you got exposed oh yeah very very exposed um yeah to

03:32:57.120 like a whole nother level to the point where it's still to this day like people call me out about it

03:33:01.520 no it doesn't hurt at all anymore to be honest about it oh yeah why are they still hung up on that

03:33:06.240 that's insane i really couldn't tell you um but the guy i cheated on my high school boyfriend with

03:33:11.840 he was still getting called out years later i haven't really talked to him either i'd be

03:33:15.440 curious to know if it still goes on um oh hold on stop 93 donated 99 okay i have to redeem myself

03:33:25.200 i had no idea you'd be reading my 50 message from 40 minutes ago i thought it just went through

03:33:31.680 unnoticed to have it read out loud was so cringe and i'm mortified not actually simping just trolling

03:33:38.800 the little boys in the chat the only way you can redeem yourself jt is to have us pop a champagne

03:33:45.200 bottle yeah i was just about to say that just saying jt just saying wait what i can't wait to

03:33:51.280 like simp over someone oh yeah dude we're gonna wrap the show bro um something uh okay so um before we

03:33:58.960 wrap any final thoughts from anybody speak now forever hold your peace if anybody has any last minute

03:34:03.920 thoughts oh so now i just had to share that story and get suckered at the end yes seriously we don't

03:34:09.600 even get to pop champagne over it i know oh osai akiwara

03:34:15.840 i don't see what it was the assumption akiwara it was money for you can you read this can you read

03:34:24.800 this oh you're cute oh okay it's japanese pretty yeah okay you're not japanese i'm not are you uh

03:34:35.920 chinese why are you doing this asian no i'm just no i'm filipino oh filipino okay you speak tagalog

03:34:43.760 the god look excuse me sorry it's at least i know that it's yes that you know tagalog

03:34:50.320 the galo okay all right good times good times uh all right so any final thoughts here before we

03:34:57.680 wrap it up uh wrap it up box go ahead to the guy who made the grimace joke about me that was really

03:35:03.680 funny oh wait i want to see it now is it was it in the like a while back yeah a long while oh my gosh

03:35:15.680 you okay madison doing okay we need to get madison a back massage here but all right so let me uh

03:35:24.480 let's see i think there was one last thing there was let everybody roast us i do need to just

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03:35:57.680 more notes i really wanted to hit on really quick um oh we need to react to your dating profile let's pull

03:36:02.720 that up really quick um and while he's while nick is getting that wait sign you've been single for

03:36:08.080 six years yes i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding um it's all good it's all good uh wait okay we'll

03:36:18.480 come back to the single it's for okay we'll come back to that so this is claudia she's so graciously

03:36:23.840 kindly provided her hinge prompts to us dating me is like dating diamonds it's beautiful

03:36:32.720 i'm just just saying a little i applaud the conference uh edward beautiful this is the skin

03:36:41.280 of a killer bella i'm a killer i have no idea what the fuck that means but okay dating me is like

03:36:45.520 dating diamonds let's look before hold on hold on you wrote it i know

03:36:51.840 so it's a reference to twilight because i think a twilight reference in a dating bind

03:37:01.680 yeah edward edward yeah how old is this reference wait okay uh let's let's see the next one next one

03:37:09.040 yeah 2011 or before maybe be okay the way to win me over is be funny be romantic be direct i'm looking

03:37:15.840 for a relationship not casual i don't get impressed so just be yourself

03:37:30.160 uh let's see the next one

03:37:33.920 i go crazy for sweet kind smart gentlemen yes sir i'm real i'm brazilian polish mexican that is why

03:37:39.360 i live in my swim okay i think the other two are the more interesting one but wait pull up the first

03:37:43.600 one again real quick

03:37:52.320 dating diamonds tell us about that what what do you mean diamonds are you a diamond um in the rough

03:37:58.080 i i think so yeah um into the mic please um yeah i think i think i am um i actually was doing it for

03:38:06.480 the the twilight reference because i'm uh think that it's i i really liked the twilight when i was

03:38:12.560 younger but then again i just do think that um you get like um a whole package with me i really do

03:38:21.040 believe that i'm not saying that i'm the most beautiful most intelligent i don't believe that about

03:38:26.640 myself but when you date me um i feel like you get a person that um will bring you peace i don't react

03:38:36.560 a lot i um i feel like i know how to regulate my emotions and i feel like i know how to you know call

03:38:43.920 myself i feel like i have good conversation and you know my relationships so far have been really long

03:38:50.960 for the most part and if we've broken up it's been you know because i was pursuing my career i put my

03:38:56.480 career first but now i'm in a good place so i mean yeah i do think that um that that's what i bring to

03:39:03.840 the table and i am you know very loyal very kind and um yeah i think that that's the first things that

03:39:10.960 i uh put bring to the table so yeah okay cool so you've been single for six years um but like come

03:39:19.520 on there's been a guy in the picture in that six-year time period right what does that mean

03:39:24.640 like there's maybe did you have a situationship in the past six years i really it's like if i want

03:39:28.960 to be in a relationship then i'll be in a relationship oh what oh the set i mean i was like

03:39:34.240 what the set i know i was like what no no no no no no no sorry um let's have can one of the girls

03:39:40.480 just ever so just kind of push it wait where's madison jesus christ wait what's up madison

03:39:49.520 bug like a giant mom well we'll see it next time um oh yeah it is six years six years six years

03:40:01.200 come on there's been some guy in the picture in six six years of being single i'm only really when

03:40:06.880 i am interested it would only be for a monogamous relationship when i get interested when so right

03:40:13.360 now i'm not i'm just chilling is it really that inconceivable because like life could be so busy

03:40:19.520 like you're trying to do something it's not it's not inconceivable but a six-year period for

03:40:25.760 nothing it's not nothing to me maybe there was a guy who you dated for three months no three months

03:40:32.400 even if it was monogamous but it was just three months so it wasn't no i i only go long term what

03:40:37.440 do you mean you only go long term um you've never been with a guy and it only lasted like

03:40:42.000 two or three months no it's always like two to three years no i'm just like i i thought you had a

03:40:48.960 thyroid problem you would know how energy is so much of a thing yeah so you can't just like be

03:40:55.280 willingly uh you know like spending it just casually spending it wait so are you copping out

03:41:03.520 because of the thyroid thing am i copying no i'm just like very selective of where i put my energy

03:41:08.480 and i think that's fair can i ask because you don't have an interest in having children at all

03:41:12.560 is dating just not a priority to you in your life the thing is it's like i don't even go there about

03:41:16.240 the children part but it's like right now i'm doing something i want to focus on that yes no i'm just

03:41:21.600 wondering so you full-fledged kind of just like focus on yourself like i guess leave children completely

03:41:25.600 out of it that's just kind of a main portion of what i'm asking though it's because that's not a

03:41:30.960 priority to procreate you don't necessarily need a man so it's just not a priority in your

03:41:35.360 life i mean right now and that's why you've been single for six years see the the thing is the idea

03:41:39.360 of having kids is not even there it's like it's non-existent so like i don't know how else to put

03:41:44.720 it i'm just not interested to have kids and that does not come into my dating profile or dating mind

03:41:50.720 like once i get once i want one like a relationship relationship then i'll do it but i have time well

03:41:57.120 yeah you can you can pursue relationships without the intention of having kids yeah but i guess i

03:42:01.840 was just curious if that had something to do with it have you just not found someone that's cool i'm

03:42:07.360 not looking oh you're not oh so you don't really want a relationship not right now i mean that makes

03:42:12.080 sense chill yeah if it happens it happens it's like yeah there's a way where you're open and you're

03:42:16.080 also doing your own shit so you're not closed you're just not actively yeah searching that makes sense

03:42:21.760 mm-hmm wait can you speak some tagalog for us based okay cool what did you say you just

03:42:30.560 cursed me okay rock and roll okay there you have it folks we're gonna wrap up the show so uh let me

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03:43:10.000 i swear we're forgetting something

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Whatever Podcast - August 09, 2023

Brian Gets SHAMED For His Preferences？! ｜ Dating Talk #91

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