Brian REJECTS Her?! Andrew Wilson FERAL Debate! Born Again Virgins vs. ØF Girls! | Dating Talk #141
Summary
In this episode of the "Whatever Dating Talk" podcast, we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape, and we have special guest, Andrew Wilson, host of the One and Only Crucible, join us to talk about what it's like to be single in the 21st century.
Transcript
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welcome to the whatever dating talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape
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thanks for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me i
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appreciate that coming to you live from santa barbara california every sunday and tuesday
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5 p.m pacific i'm your host brian atlas uh i guess kiki's here kiki's here yep um she's a bit shy
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a few quick announcements before before the show begins uh you guys have heard it a hundred times
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podcast is viewer supported we got stream labs if you can donate through there instead of uh
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youtube soup chats that'd be preferable uh you know we've got donate uh we have twitch
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we have merch all the links for that shit's in instagram um i'm a little sick tonight guys so
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um and i for some reason my dropbox fucked up lost all my notes so it's gonna be a scuff scuff
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stream sorry we're starting late we had people 50 minutes late so it is what it is without further
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ado we're gonna have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age
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occupation and location go ahead my name is britney crisp and my age is 32 and i'm located in new
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hampshire and my occupation is only fans my name is dara i'm 38 years old i'm from brooklyn new york
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new york and i'm a retired nurse and only fans model my name is lexus morgan i'm 27 i am from miami
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florida and i am a real estate investor and an only fans model age 27 did i miss that i don't know okay
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i am the jasmine rose i am a model in new york city i am 26 and yeah hello my name is shayne
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matthews and i am turning 26 years old tomorrow and i live in studio city california and i'm a christian
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influencer hi my name is claire i'm 26 years old and i'm a medical assistant and i'm from la
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hi my name is monica i am 20 years old i am a barista and i am locally from santa barbara
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hi my name is brie i'm from santa barbara california um i'm 19 years old and i'm a full-time student
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working at in a restaurant industry hi i'm lexi i'm 23 uh located in the 209 stock demand ticket area
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and i'm also a barista and we have andrew wilson joining us today andrew yeah my name is andrew
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wilson host of the one and only crucible one of the fastest if not the fastest growing debate channel
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on youtube i'm a content creator appreciate you guys having me tonight all right welcome everybody
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so we're going to go around the table once more what's everybody's current relationship status so
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are you single talking stage situationship friends with benefits relationship married polycule
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whatever if you're single how long have you been single what's the longest relationship you've
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ever been in starting with you go ahead i'm currently single and the longest relationship that i've ever
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been in was seven and a half years how long have you been single um probably about nine months
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nine months all right what about you um i've been single for about six months and the longest
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relationship i've been in was about four years i was almost married was there anything were you
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engaged or no looking for rings looking for what rings like we're almost at that stage
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single longest relationship was seven and a half years and i have been single for a year
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and a half yeah i'm currently in a relationship with the question mark and have been in the
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relationship for about a month my longest relationship was two and a half years
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what do you mean question mark um we almost broke up an hour ago so it's okay
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is he here in san barbara no he's back in new york city he's a model
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oh you came you uh flew here right yeah okay why did you almost break up an hour ago for um
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whatever podcast it's just i'm thinking about moving to california so we'll see
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so you had a semi breakup conversation right before the yeah dating podcast he had to go on set and i
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had to come on here so he's like we'll talk about it and i'm like okay bye he had to go on set yeah
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is it ty biggs no oh ty diggs wait he's in new york right yeah i wish okay oh my god
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yes um i am currently single my last relationship was five months ago and my longest relationship i've
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ever had was four and a half years um i'm single and um i've been single for about three years now
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since i came to christ and my longest relationship was about a year to two years a year to two years
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yeah i'm sorry that's a large gap year and a half and you said you've been single for three years was it
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mm-hmm okay what about you uh i'm single my longest relationship was a month and i have been
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single for six years now longest relationship a month yeah but you've been single for six years
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so you and you're 20 correct yeah so your one month relationship when was middle school 14
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okay but you were like 14 or something yeah around there okay what about you um i'm currently
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single and i've been single for 19 years okay so what's the longest period of time you've ever
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seen a guy dated guy a month one month but it wasn't like dating or anything what was it
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um talking i guess what does talking mean like talking like every day um when was this how long
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ago was this was sophomore year in high school okay and not no prospects since like a two-weeker
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like like like not like no nothing serious nothing serious okay yeah what about you um i've been
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single for over a year um my longest relationship was five years all right andrew what about you
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yeah i've been married for uh well over a decade okay cool so good jumping off point is um maybe you've
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seen the show before maybe you've seen uh clips from andrew over there who's on on the monitor uh
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maybe some of you aren't super familiar with the show maybe some of you are a good jumping off point
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we'd like to do is um is there anything that anybody disagrees with that you've heard from me
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from madison back there she's had some hot takes and then from andrew we'll start there anybody
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okay that makes my job easy i can i i have something sure um wow that's like starting right
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off the bat um i think that um the point of the show i i even like in your previous video like you
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mentioned that the bread and butter of the show is to kind of almost in a way make fun of certain
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women and there are different wow that's slander i'm going to interrupt you right there i've those
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words have never exited my mouth so please actually state something correctly that i've said go ahead
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okay so um just i think watching like the previous um shows i felt like there was a lot of um
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obviously disagreements as there's a lot of women here and even men but i think there's a lot of like
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casting stones in a sense um not that the law in the sense that you know doing certain things um are
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good or bad um like i'm sorry i'm trying to explain i'm like i'm nervous um but like the show tends to
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like cast stones at certain women and i see the common section too and as a christian i feel like
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that's not what you know jesus calls us to do we don't cast stones at each other um especially when
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we have a log in our eye like our own pride and our own sins we're all sick with sin and we all need
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an antidote okay that sounds like you're making a sounds like you're making a judgment are you making
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a judgment yeah and i don't think judgment is necessarily bad because we need to be able to
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judge to um you know see you know somebody's doing something bad or not but what's uh so what's the
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actual criticism then yeah so the kind of judgment that i'm talking about it stems from like pride and
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this is something that you know we see christ warning us about um saying oh i fasted two times a week i've
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you know i pray um thank god i'm not like these tax collectors or these sinners and jesus really
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comes down hard on the pharisees and i kind of feel like that is where the show tends to go
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and um i don't think that's the point of christianity the point of christianity is that we all need
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i don't i actually don't understand the criticism here so the criticism is that you think that
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there's too many people who are on the show who are too pious and are virtue signaling yeah i think
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it's like extreme on like both ends um you know there's on one end a complete lack of morality and
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relativism so there's no good there's no wrong and then on the other end it's like judging women and
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making fun of these women uh that come well i don't i don't understand if you if you're a moral
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relativist and you are arguing with a moral objectivist which you are because you're a
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christian um that's that's how that's going to sound right in order to demonstrate that somebody's
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a relativist you have to demonstrate that they would move towards absurd conclusions because they
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don't have objective morality how else is a christian could you demonstrate that yeah and i actually
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agree with you i think that the purpose of the law to show them is kind of like going to a doctor's
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office and saying here is the symptom like we're morally sick and you need a cure and it's not i'm
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better than you because your sins are worse than mine and after studying some of the videos that i
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watched on the whatever podcast that's just kind of the conclusion that i came with with the type of
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language that we use the way that we laugh at each other i don't think would be we would be
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laughing at each other when we see that you know the wrath of god is like hanging upon us and if
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we're a christian like we believe in hell and that's god's judgment like it's not a laughing matter
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about our sins like we're all sick and we all need christ so then to dive into this let us play a game
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of pretend let us pretend that you are arguing with an actual prostitute who sees nothing wrong with
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being a prostitute can you explain how you would make an argument grid one motorsports donated one
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hundred dollars it is my job to cast the stones and make fun of those that deserve it at bull get
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the rocks we are gonna need a lot thing so exactly that's my point is what this individual said and
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i'm not okay with that um throwing rocks at women who get the rocks yeah abdul yeah get the right get
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so that's that's my point right there and uh andrew did you want to restate your question
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to her yeah if you're arguing with a woman who's a prostitute you don't agree with prostitution
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can you explain how you would make such an argument to them well first of all you know
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because i'm a christian i would say that you know in in in the in the word in the bible like god says
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that sexual immorality is wrong and yeah but they reject that right and so we would have that
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conversation but my heart attitude like the heart attitude we're having the conversation they already
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rejected it yeah sorry can you explain to me how you're going to uh show them the error of their
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way they reject the bible they think it's a uh 2 000 year old book of lies yeah may i say something
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okay so um i was actually a prostitute i've been in the adult industry and i was also a dancer and so
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i had a divine encounter with jesus last year in may and i this is how i presented i was like god of the
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universe reveal yourself to me and then i started having a series of dreams and visions of jesus christ
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and you know god sanctifies you the definition of sanctification is the process of becoming more
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holy sometimes things change overnight sometimes things change gradually you know because everyone's
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different god has different timing of healing and revealing things in accordance to what you can
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handle and so that just exhibits his grace and his love and his mercy towards us his mercy
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but they're going to reject all of that because a relativist and they don't believe you
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they think you're delusional right and like i said you know like talking to these women and saying hey
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like this way like we've been there and it's wrong it's sinful and it's against you know um god's goodness
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it's you know just um staying his glory um but he loves us and he died for us on the cross and he
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resurrected so that we can be born again and have new life and what righteous muffin is saying in the
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comment section is that what i'm saying is that we is not what i'm saying is not that we you know
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devolve into degeneracy that's not what i'm saying because that's why christ came to save us he came to
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make us a new creation by just believing in him but what i find is that the podcast often is using the
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law a lot to just condemn condemn condemn and not giving the cure which is christ which law what do
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you mean like for example like what he was saying like prostitution is wrong like of course like we
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can say prostitution is wrong all day but we're not presenting the cure to the prostitution which
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yeah but you have to you have to deconstruct a person's worldview before you can replace it with
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something else so if you have a person who's a nihilist or a moral relativist don't you first
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need to disprove that their worldview is correct before you can move into giving them a new purview
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on that yes i agree with you and i'm not arguing about that i think we're like i don't think you're
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understanding what i'm saying i'm talking about like the heart i am do you mind if i take a stab at
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steel manning your position so i think that what your position is is that you think that
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what's going on when people are having these discussions on this podcast that it's falling
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short of the glory of christ from your perspective and that everything should be given through that
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purview my counter to this is to say to you and forgive me is that correct is that what what your
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what your basic position is um yes okay so if that's the basic position then my counter to this is
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if you are going to convince somebody you it's generally best and you'll see this in the best
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christian apologists who've ever existed to meet them where they're at and if you meet them where
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they're at right you have to deconstruct and destroy their worldview first before it can be replaced with
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something else and it can look brutal and it can look uncomfortable and it can be not a lot of fun
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and it can look like there's judgments and things like this but i think that um if that was not what
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was going on that guys like chase guys like myself we would not be on the podcast because we're able to
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give uh significant pushback to these other worldviews uh if it comes up that doesn't mean we have to be
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mean to anybody right but we still do have to provide pushback right don't you think yes and and i
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absolutely agree with you and andrew i don't know your heart you know you i i agree with you that we
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need to meet them at their worldview worldview because they're not there there's a lot of people
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who tell me like the bible is not a credible source for me because i don't believe in the bible and so yes we
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should absolutely meet them give the evidence but what i'm talking about is something what let's say
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like righteous um the earlier donation he was like cast the stones on these women like i'm talking about
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that heart posture i'm not arguing against what you're saying i'm actually agreeing with you but
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i'm talking about the heart issue behind condemning people what i think is that simply pointing out
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sometimes to entitled women that they're wrong will give the appearance that you're casting stones when
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you're not but just pointing out that they're incorrect or what they just said was absurd or even
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just laughing because they said something so absurd i think that can give the appearance that
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you're casting stones even though you're not actually directly doing that that's my position
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on grid one motorsports donated 100 dear we do not default to degeneracy however degeneracy must be
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shamed god is merciful but as righteous anger when there is sin it is a sin for you to enable bad
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behavior please do better yeah grid one motorsports thank you for that uh we're not going to linger on that
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for for for too long but um so it was an interesting conversation i appreciated having it yeah and i
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mean if i can jump in really quickly on it uh so but you're where that sort of stemmed from was you said
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that well you thought that i said that it's the bread and butter of the show to what yeah so basically
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there was a woman on one of the shows and forgive me for not remembering her name but she said oh i didn't
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know that this was going to be like you versus us like debate i thought it was just going to be like
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an like us having a conversation not just like you guys you know and then all the insults that were
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thrown at them and you said well that's like the bread and butter of the show um and so yeah and which
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which girl was that which episode was that i think it was like two three videos ago um i i'm sorry i
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don't remember like the title of the video oh i think it was actually a show that andrew was on
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um was it with the two uh the two black the gobbler yeah it was the gobbler right yeah the gobbler
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um andrew was there and i think so she came on the show and i think she said something about
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oh well i thought we were just going to share quirky dating anecdotes and i didn't think that
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we would be having these sort of heavier discussions and debates and i think i said the debates were
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bread and butter but um and perhaps she included well i wasn't expecting xyz so i think you mentioned
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um you know the mocking the women but i've never out of my own mouth ever said that the bread and
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butter of the whatever podcast is mocking women the bread and butter of the whatever podcast is
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having is having uh oftentimes adversarial conversations when it comes to dating topics
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culture doctrinably donated 100 dollars humor is very powerful tool to lower defenses
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ridicule is beneficial in loosening the grip of evil on an individual it is fine to use humor as long as
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one is not destroying another's humanity that's a very good observation and i couldn't agree with
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that super chat more so thank you i think that i do remember this panel as well and uh she was
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basically complaining that she felt like the conversation was getting too heady she thought
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it was too it was a little too sophisticated for her and actually we tuned turned the rhetoric back
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because of that to try again to meet her where she was at so i don't feel like anybody's humanity was
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being attacked that episode that's for sure and we had some pretty good conversations in that episode
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in fact and just last thing um so you also mentioned well some of the chatters some of the tts
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comes through sometimes those can be uh insulting or critical of a guest and uh look i can say this you
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know the internet is an interesting place people with when it when you have uh when you're anonymous
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you can uh sort of talk in a way that you wouldn't otherwise talk to somebody if you're face to face
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with them but uh as a man as an individual i don't know how to be responsible for the words somebody
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else says because your initial comment was directed towards me but i don't i can't be responsible for
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by the way shout out i don't know if erico arico tv still in the chat i don't know how to be
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responsible for what he says i don't know how to be responsible for what grid one says i just know
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how to be responsible for the words that come out of my mouth so uh i can't really take claim to what
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anybody else is saying you know yeah thank you for your response um and i'm not saying that you're
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responsible for what other people do that's why when i'm talking about this i'm talking to everybody
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including the people on the internet because we're all human beings and this is the calling
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of the gospels to not hate one another or make fun of one another but to love one another and
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see that we're all sick and we're in need of a savior so that's the position i'm coming to
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L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L donated $100.
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Chat, would you rather get a massage from a gay man or surgery from a female doctor?
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So basically, would you rather get a massage or die?
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yeah what do you think what would you prefer i think i think the surgery is happening bro
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wait you'd rather you'd rather get serious surgery from a female doctor than just a like a massage
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from a gay guy yeah i think so okay um can i say something sure can i ask why why what
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why she would rather get surgery than a massage oh you're asking to andrew yeah well it's not that
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i'd rather get surgery than a massage that wasn't the question the question oh wait maybe we don't
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go there maybe we don't go there let's not go there uh she's she's looking for something okay um
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by the way i do want to mention uh on our last show we ended the stream there were a couple
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uh it was 50 uh stream labs donations that came in we missed them i'm very sorry guys normally we're
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it's very rare that we miss any uh any uh super chats or stream labs donations i think they came
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in there at the very end it just slipped my mind uh if it's a shannon lacy and ddr nav 314 i apologize
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that we missed your chats on the last show um you know what maybe i just read them i'll have uh i'll
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read them really quick nav just said thank you for fighting the progressive biases and honoring well
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reasoned discussion appreciate it and then the other one i'll message you shannon i'll message you
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directly and see if you want to resubmit these uh for another show uh okay so anybody else any
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disagreements on anything let's just get to the topic okay so i wanted to check in on everybody's
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relationship status so everybody here is kind of single except for you but you just had a breakup
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semi-breakup conversation um single single single single single single single single okay
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so what does being single actually mean um because i mean a lot of you guys are very true
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you've got some attractive people here at the table i'm sure there's uh you know some guy in
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the picture maybe multiple guys in the picture so you said you've been single
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playing live thanks for the gifted uh 20 memberships actually really quick why don't you pull up
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righteous muffins i'll read this one really quick actually who who here has a good can i have you
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read it trying to save my voice here if we don't judge others and try to change their way do we just
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let society devolve into degeneracy how do we ever get people to change their ways do we just love the
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degeneracy away that might be directed at you if you want to quickly respond to it yeah um that's what i
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was saying earlier is that what i'm saying is not that we just let people in their sin jesus said
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called us to repent of our sins and repenting means the greek word is metanoia which is to change
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your mind from the to believe in christ and the way that we believe christ and get saved and actually
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start obeying god is not to try to obey the law to get into heaven or to have a relationship with god
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is to just believe that he did the work for us like he finished it
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oh sorry did you want to keep going or was there more um yeah that sounds like uh sounds like sola
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fide to me say that again is that sola fide um by faith alone sola fide um and then the
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fruits come as a result of the faith genuine faith um people will bear fruit so for example
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um cheyenne's testimony was that she was working in the industry so was i i encountered jesus i
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repented of my sins i believed in christ and i got born again and now i am a completely different
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person and i take no credit for that it's god and god alone for that radical change um he didn't
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just change one view or two views he changed all of me well this is going to be an interesting
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round table tonight i can already see okay all right so going back to the single stuff so uh you've
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been single for nine months uh some guys in the picture though right um a couple couple guys maybe
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what about right now uh there's a guy that's like long distance i don't i don't know what to say
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about it but we're just talking okay um and you do you do of right yeah um what kind of content are
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you making is it solo content bg gg it's like all of it bb g yeah it's like bb g all of that stuff
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what what's uh have you done any trad traditional adult content like mainstream yeah not yet but
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browsers wants to work with me but i haven't done mainstream okay uh do you have like a shooting
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partner that you work with um i did i did it was my ex-boyfriend the one from nine months ago yeah
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okay why did he dump you um he didn't dump me oh we mutually split up but it just wasn't working
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for many different reasons not because of what i was doing for a living it was like what he was doing
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for a living versus what i was doing for a living what was he doing he's a weed grower and i was
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gonna join him in that i had an intuition it was drug related that's funny it is okay okay um wait
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actually i have quite a few threads i want to go here just going around the table why did your
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boyfriend dump you your last boyfriend um i chose to just walk away from the situation it wasn't right
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for me oh you ended it okay um twice the last two guys i dated i ended why did your boyfriend
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dump you your last boyfriend i left him what a projection i'll get one jocules donated one hundred
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dollars daddy brixton long time listener first time donator thank you for the cute christian asian girl
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i am a 30 and christian from oregon who makes over six figures could i fly you out for a date i can send a
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pick sorry i i don't know how to respond to that i'm sorry well he's asked he's asked if uh he
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could fly you out to oregon uh jake what other details do you need to know height do you need
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to know his height height doesn't matter what if he's like 4 11. hey if that's what god has for me
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that's fine okay uh just you know i'd like to talk a little bit more of theology and like what
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your beliefs are um and get to know you where earth wives donated 100 love the show why not ask
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girls to rate themselves on the wife scale as well as the regular whole scale too many rate themselves
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as a 10 but it's not the wife scale uh okay well fuck it we'll come back to the single the single
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relationship stuff real quick uh what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten on the wife
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scale like how zero being not wifey ten being wifey six six ten and ten ten and ten okay nine point
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nine eight out of ten i'm still healing um i i don't i'm gonna abstain from rating myself um i don't
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know where i'm at with that i think that's only something god knows and prepares us for so i will
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abstain from rating you're gonna abstain from your wifey score yeah i'm gonna abstain do you have a
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self-assessment no okay what about you uh an eight i'll give myself a solid seven i would say five
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yeah why five because there's things that i need to work on that i feel that can value myself and then
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i can value my partner okay interesting uh five on the wifey scale andrew what are you on the wifey
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scale okay i guess i would be a zero but my wife is a 10 on the wife's oh there you go there you go
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okay uh that was an interesting one i feel like we should almost just jump in immediately to this
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ask everyone to rate their looks a little early on this one but fuck it i need to stop cursing i don't
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know when i'm sick i start cursing more um ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten
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starting with you your looks looks scale one to ten uh i don't know i guess a nine and a half
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do you want if you want to just say 10 you i'm not conceited i'm not gonna say 10 oh so you're not
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conceited but okay not really 9.5 okay i can be conceited what about you i think 9.8 9.8 okay
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7.5 i could be better i can't rate myself of course you can rate yourself i really beauty is in
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the eye of the beholder so i feel like it just be if i rate myself and how i look looks different to
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everyone else if i say 10 people say too conceited i'm not scared to be too conceited i love myself
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but i just can't rate myself it breaks the scale well that doesn't make any sense because you're if
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you're on your wife scale you put like nine or ten that's also a subjective metric looks isn't a
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title wife is a title looks as image yeah but they're both a subjective metric so why could you
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rate yourself with one but not the other that makes no sense i can rate myself for a wife because i know
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what it takes for me to be a wife to my husband not just being a wife but to my husband so i know what
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it takes to do the task and how to fulfill it but now are you are you married i've been proposed to
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five times but i'm not married by choice you're not married have you ever been married no oh and what
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how do you what like what's your reference point here i know what it takes for me to be a wife and
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how to fulfill that job but for me well it well is being a wife just you or is it also what your
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husband thinks of you being a wife is a title that my husband gives me so not just what my
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husband thinks of me if he thinks i'm the most amazing wife ever calls me a 10 this that and the
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third and i think i'm a zero i'm still a 10 because of what my husband thinks but asking me to rate
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myself based on what i think of myself i can't do that i think everything is but you can do it as a
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wife i don't i don't understand that that makes no sense to me i don't know how you could rate
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yourself as a wife but not be able to rate your looks that's it's like i mean it's the subjective
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metric it's like asking how great do you do your job if you work at wendy's i think working yeah i feel
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like the wendy's workers get self-assessment tests where they answer that question right yeah because
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they judge themselves based on the task of what they're doing for that job but if you ask them how
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great do you look in that uniform that you're wearing that you have to wear
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they're gonna say oh i feel like they could answer that too right maybe but it's more like
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someone else thinks they look amazing and they think they look like a five do they look amazing
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or do they look like a five which one is it i think i look great in the pants but the shirt isn't all
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that great i think my hair looks nice in the top the split over one well i mean but that sounds like
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you can adequately rate yourself in a wendy's uniform then right like don't you don't you rate yourself
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for uh how you're dressed or how you look or things like that don't you give yourself a rating
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and that determines what your fashion sense is to begin with i don't rate myself i think if it looks
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great it looks great if it doesn't doesn't i take it all yeah but but if it looks great great being high
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like eight nine or ten and if you think you look great that being high as in eight nine or ten which
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of those ratings for great would you give yourself well they did say looks like let the girls rate
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themselves in their looks so are you basing me in an outfit or basing me naked it depends
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well no i'm not i'm not basing anything it's a self-assessment but i'm saying that clearly you
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can assess yourself because you do it all the time that's how you know what hairstyle you use what
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makeup you use what dresses you wear all that right i might assess myself i don't rate it
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well right but if you were to take that self-assessment and give a rating to it
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what would you rate it that's the question infinity breaks my sale okay so like 10 yeah i think we just
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put down a 10 for that go ahead okay um we are fearfully and wonderfully made god is the pot of
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clay hold on just the broad essence donated 100 dollars all right left to right rating fire crotch
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five mini torta four large torta three christian asian seven crazy thought christian four chichi negro six
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to gold bitties seven full sleeve of thought five small bitty of thought four no wives no wives okay
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wow all right uh i think you were responding go ahead um respond to that yeah oh well no no no just
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the initial question so uh scripture says we're fearfully and wonderfully made and god doesn't
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make mistakes he's the potter we're the clay i believe everyone's a 10 out of 10 and your husband
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or your wife will think so as well because god handpicks them for you every hold on i don't think
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i've ever heard that one everyone's a 10 out of 10 yeah everyone's a 10 out of 10 yes so
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there's no when you look at somebody you make no differentiation when it comes to
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you can't determine between say two people if one is more attractive than the other you cannot make
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that determination i could see how the world views them but since i'm filled with the holy spirit i see
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a person's soul instead of their flesh because i'm born again so i have a different lens well use the
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lens of the world uses i don't want to why not because it's not it's not good i've i've my intimacy and
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relationship with god is worth more than lowering myself back to where i used to be
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so you when it comes to dating you have you have no regard for the person's physical appearance no i
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don't zero not anymore i promise not anymore i've dated fat skinny tall short all races it's the heart
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yep how tall was your last boyfriend six foot oh that's interesting how tall are you
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five nine so only 15 of men in this country are six foot or taller maybe it's just happenstance
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that you ended up with a guy who is a is above average in height but i mean god wanted her to
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have a six foot tall man i guess okay um right is that i mean this is the thing the the statement
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you're making is actually absurd that is not a christian ethic to make the determination that
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you can have preferences for attraction that's ridiculous on its face where on earth did you come
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up with this other than headcanon that you being a christian means that you can't have preferences
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for what you're attracted to yeah i understand what you're saying i'm just saying for me
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i don't have preferences like i know some people might prefer there's nothing wrong with having a
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preference the way that i've always been even before being a christian i've dated you know
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asian white tall short my first boyfriend was asian he was five seven that was my first love
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what are you trying to say about asian people with that statement i was almost trying to say that
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i it's almost uh okay so let's just make it super easy would you do you want to have children
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yes okay so would you date a man who could not give you children no okay well then it sounds like
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you have preferences and that's okay right that's totally fine for you to have that preference isn't
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it yeah and i can answer that if that's okay so um last year it was so funny like four days
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before what i'm about to tell you i was like i was praying i was like god i'm okay if you don't give
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me kids i just want whatever you want for me four days later i had a vision that i had a husband and
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kids well so that's my go into the asian thing a little bit there because you said i even dated an
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asian man what do you mean by that well do you think that asian men don't compare to no well that
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sort of sounds like what you're saying i guess i was using the comparison well for one i'm half asian
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okay so but but two it was fresh in my mind because i know he's shorter than the six foot man
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grid one motorsports donated one hundred dollars if everyone you date is a 10 you should be a wife
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already the amount of delulu is epic i thought i was going to take it easy tonight be chill but i can
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see we need all the smoke prepare yourselves you have you have invoked his wrath yes you've invoked
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grid one motorsports wrath watch out um okay so uh the rating thing are you just not wanting to uh
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do a rating you said everyone's a 10 so i assume you're saying that you're 10 out of 10 okay you're
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10 out of 10 yes everyone's a 10 yes so if i showed you say a picture of brad pitt when he was young
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and then a picture of donald trump currently i don't know where you maybe you're a fan of donald trump
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uh donald how about joe biden because i feel like maybe you lean a bit more conservative am i right
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conservative is i would say so lean more towards all right who would you say in your view would you
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prefer dating just based off of their level of attractiveness joe biden or brad pitt when he was
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i've never had age preference i've dated younger than me my age and older just looks just looks
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without the age joe biden this is like a benjamin button thing because i'm bringing brad brad pitt into
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this so just assume their age is the same but oh their age is the same button thing sure oh age the
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same brad pitt young how he looked when he was young he's still attractive guy versus joe biden
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who's ever a believer that's my answer that's not the question both okay great they're both believers
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thank you andrew you made it easy for me oh at that point i would just pray and then god will
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tell me which one i rely on god to tell me oh my god wait wait i have something i have something
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do you rely on hang on i gotta ask you do you rely on god to tell you if you like uh pepperoni on your
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pizza or not well we'll come back donated 100 thank you mr monica and brie this is julian gutierrez
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please give my info to the beautiful asian honey you're right yes the one with the helmet and you can
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the one with the tattoo i likey uh she's not your type bro oh is this like a friend of yours but i
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asked a question don't you think that god gave you attraction like that's a gift from god to be
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attracted to somebody looks wise or looks are a gift from god as well wait do you want to answer
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that really quick then andrew you had your pepperoni thing yeah yes yes so definitely of course like
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attraction does aid and you know obviously physical attraction aids you know in the sexual attraction
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like when you're married you know it's more it's more intimate god gave sex as a gift you know so i
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would say yes it does but it's not the main thing that's an additive that's a gift outside of what's
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really important which is the heart of god and following in his will yeah what's what's going on here
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is something you should assess because the gal who was next to you had a criticism and she's a
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christian her criticism was about essentially uh falling short of the glory of god is one of the
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criticisms she has of the show and yet what i'm hearing from you is actually piety signaling this
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is piety signaling saying it's so over the top ridiculous to make the claim that you have no
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personal preferences i don't even know where to begin do you like pepperoni on your pizza
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i actually don't like pepperoni at all great was that did you were you informed of that by a vision
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from god god made my taste buds so apparently not my not my vision though no just naturally
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wait wait so your taste buds informed you yeah okay got you so when you are attracted to a person
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how do you know that that's god telling you that you're attracted to him or if it's you telling
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you that you're attracted to him because of your own personal preferences right that's that's a
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really good question so i actually this is one of my prayers you know and i'm just going to be bold
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and say it one of my prayers is god i surrender my attractions to you and i'll tell you when i first
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started praying that the way i was attracted to people changed prior to that prior i started surrendering
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to god i was attracted to like guys that were just not healthy for me and it was also because i
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wasn't healed the more god heals you the more you're attracted to healthy yeah so did you yield
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over your taste buds to god as well yes okay so god doesn't want you to eat pepperoni
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apparently not it doesn't taste good that doesn't sound slightly ridiculous to you
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no no it's not at all so you yielded your taste buds over to god yes god doesn't want you to eat
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pepperoni right right if that's not your taste buds that's god doesn't want you to eat pepperoni
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yeah i'm sure i think god works in everything every little thing yeah like your desires your emotions
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yeah okay yeah we can come back to this otherwise we're gonna we're gonna bog the panel down with it
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but what you're saying is ridiculous and i can demonstrate to you why is brian gone we got a few
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minutes then okay great so the the question becomes right you you are supposed to have your grounding
00:45:58.600
and biblical belief i'm guessing you're some kind of protestant right what kind of denomination aren't
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you i would say if i had to pick one non-denominational but i believe in both the old and new testament so
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everything yes non-denominational yes i have a relationship with god yeah so this makes you the
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interpreter right you're the interpreter of the bible an interpreter would you mind elaborating on
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that yeah how do you know what you're reading in the bible is true the holy spirit leads me and gives
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me revelation of wisdom now let's assume for a second somebody's next to you who also claims they
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have the holy spirit inside of them and that's how they get revelation and you have a disagreement how
00:46:37.400
do you know which one of you is right oh i love i love this i love your question so of course that's
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happened and and i've had you know conversations that got heated but also like god's really worked
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in me and and it's okay to disagree you know some people don't agree well it's not okay to disagree
00:46:55.320
only one thing can be right two things can't be right two interpretations can't be right only one can
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be right how do you know which one's right so so if you're talking about conviction conviction is
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different than everybody for example i got convicted personally i can't drink at all because if i do
00:47:10.780
i won't just drink one that's my own conviction on drinking another christian could drink a shot
00:47:16.680
and they're done and god they don't feel any conviction from god so conviction that's not
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answering my question my question again is that if somebody's next to you if the gal who's sitting next
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to you right now yeah claims that she has a vision from god and interprets a text alternative to how you
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interpret the text how do you know you're right
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honestly i wouldn't ask that question i would hear her out and then i would i would ask god i'm
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like god why did she tell me that are you trying to tell me something it's i think it's to make sure
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that pride doesn't enter your heart especially as a believer this does not answer the question i'm glad
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that you would say that how would you know you were right because i trust that god will let me know
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and that god is always going to so you're always going to be the one who's right then
00:48:01.500
because god's always going to tell you so if somebody if somebody else says that they have
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the power of the holy spirit inside of them they've experienced the same revelation that you have
00:48:09.860
okay and then whatever it is that you think god says to you you're the interpreter you're going to have
00:48:17.260
the correct interpretation no matter what aren't you for my life for for me i it's not my job to worry
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about everyone else that's god's job it's my job to control what i can control and what he tells me
00:48:30.980
that's i thought your job was to make disciples of the nation yes and love okay well then you do
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have to worry about what your neighbor is doing and what everybody else is doing too if you want
00:48:40.420
to make disciples out of them don't you right without judgment but to exhibit the forgiveness
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and grace of christ which is what she was trying to say earlier and you and you can do those things
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you're not they're not exclusive to each other right it's a or exclusionary to each other so that
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the question becomes again how do you know that you're giving them the right interpretation
00:48:57.360
other than because you think so just keep seeking the lord and he'll reveal it that's all i know
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and what if they reveal it he reveals to somebody else that your interpretation is wrong how do you
00:49:08.860
know you're right honestly it's just it's faith it all boils down to faith faith on the things that
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are not seen but hoped for that's the definition of faith i just want to let you know that by
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by this example you're essentially saying that you're the ultimate arbiter of god's word
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you personally you are the ultimate arbiter of god's word well you have to be because anybody else
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who has any sort of different revelation than you do about the scripture that you read which is
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alternative to it you're going to believe your interpretation this means you think that you
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are the ultimate arbiter of god's word so i have spiritual mothers and fathers from my church that
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they they mentor me so i don't know everything of course like i'm still going to grow there's so
00:49:52.560
much wisdom that i don't know so i'm not saying that i know everything but i know enough for today
00:49:57.400
that's why god says he gives us our daily bread so someone else's revelation on something could be
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different than mine but god knows what we need and like you were saying he comes to us where we're at
00:50:08.940
so i'm not saying that i'm jesus i follow jesus i'm a servant of christ but i am not him
00:50:15.080
and if one of those spiritual mothers or fathers inside of your church has a different spiritual
00:50:20.780
revelation than you do when they're interpreting text yeah how do you know that yours or theirs is
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right we have faith and if you seek god the bible says if you seek god you will find him period that's
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the answer hold on it takes faith uh so everybody's a 10 amen come on everyone's a 10 i don't know if
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you actually answered did you ever answer my question about the brad pitt versus no joe biden
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thing you said if they're both everybody equally attractive just be honest that's like an answer
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from god then right like whoever you're attracted to like whatever she's not she doesn't feel any
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physical attraction so i'm asking for anybody because god everybody's equally attractive in her eye
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everyone's attraction works differently i think we need to note that you said everybody's a 10
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right yeah because we're all made in the image of god i truly believe that i truly believe that
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but it's like the same way that you know that you don't like pepperoni you would know if you don't
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like joe biden and you do like donald trump or whatever the comparison he did was so you do have
00:51:30.500
an answer in your head you're just not speaking it would you date somebody who's obese morbidly obese
00:51:35.180
i have before you have before do you would you prefer to date someone who's in good physical
00:51:40.720
health versus who has a fit body versus somebody who's morbidly obese you have no leaning
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if you're talking about health-wise since our body's a temple yes of course it would
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you know be probably in a sense a wiser choice if because if someone's actively taking care of
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themselves but also someone could also be obese and still be taking care of themselves it could be a
00:52:04.680
health condition that they have so you know that's a very open-ended question but i'll just say
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i've like i said i've been attracted to skinny and and obese so you're saying i mean we're so
00:52:15.120
getting off the rails here but you're saying that somebody could be morbidly obese but be in good
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health i've i've met some people that conditions and they worked out by virtue of being morbidly obese
00:52:26.880
you are almost definitely you you are not in good health that is a help being morbidly obese is not
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healthy healthy people on noah's ark to like right like the strong certain animals certain things
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wouldn't god want you to date a healthy person not an obese person for yourself yes so you think
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yeah i see what you're saying so um basically i've met a couple people with conditions and they would
00:52:50.680
work out every day they ate actually healthier than me but they were still big because of the conditions
00:52:54.840
they had medically so that's what i'm referring to there's a difference between like someone
00:52:59.520
you know eating a lot and getting you know obese because of their diet strictly and they don't care
00:53:05.100
about their body and there's a difference between someone having a condition and then being obese
00:53:09.060
because and they're doing everything in their power to help themselves and their weight so why would god
00:53:13.700
put a good person in bad health do you think that's okay that's that's a whole thing that's a whole
00:53:19.660
hang on hang on maybe let me try this from a slightly different angle from from your perspective
00:53:25.600
the best that i can i think there's assume for a second that you have preferences but through faith
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you're able to ignore some of those preferences for maybe things you think are great or good like
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virtue or personality or things like that right would that be more accurate to say yes i'm definitely
00:53:43.840
attracted to the personality the way someone speaks to me the way their heart is because that's part of
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their soul yes gotcha okay so you're able to ignore possibly some of the alternative
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donated one hundred dollars only andrew can take a one to ten rating question and turn it into
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dressing down all of this woman's beliefs imagine if you had just said a number then thousands of pp
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wouldn't be questioning your faith rn anyway anyway well i'm not i'm not questioning her faith
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to be fair uh at all that's not the intent but we're gonna have theological disputes that's gonna
00:54:19.920
happen so yeah but that but that aside uh grid one motorsports donated one hundred dollars god gave
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you free will for a reason and you seem to be completely ignorant of not only his holy word but
00:54:33.940
also your place in the world you need a new church and you need to take accountability in life
00:54:39.960
so um so back to this if you're able to ignore physical preferences that you might ordinarily have
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for these other things i think that that's fine and that's a fair argument yeah but you would still
00:54:55.800
admit that you do have some physical preferences well i definitely like feel attraction you know after
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i like someone's personality i'm like oh wow like your hair is nice your skin's nice yes
00:55:07.720
right that's not the initial i guess i guess if we're just judging on rating just asking you take
00:55:13.180
the preferences for what you would consider physical attraction and only that um and give us the
00:55:20.060
rating that way rather than the alternative of trying to mix the holistic of a person in while i can
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understand that in some cases a person's personality may make them more or less attractive to you
00:55:31.540
you can also include that metric for yourself in a self-rating system so you can say how attractive
00:55:36.920
you think you are and base all of that on a holistic as well like she was saying beauty is in the eye
00:55:43.520
of beholder everyone's going to think differently and have a different view you're the beholder right
00:55:48.180
now that's why we're asking you what you think about you yeah i gave you my answer and yes okay
00:55:59.940
okay i will abstain from rating myself you're gonna abstain why um or you could just engage with the
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conversation and just answer the question yeah i'm i'm not gonna rate myself i think it's a worldly
00:56:18.720
question and um i agree that it's kind of putting me back in a place where i was beforehand
00:56:25.480
and what place was that like before christ you know when i was um you know doing you know work
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like olean fans and everything was about my looks and attractiveness and all those things so um
00:56:43.760
you don't care about looks at all in a partner because you refused your are you abstaining because
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you have an answer to the question but you don't want to share it yeah that's correct oh so well
00:56:56.360
why would you so you do have a self-assessment yes i do oh well why not just share it then
00:57:17.820
i will abstain from answering bro you've asked to come on a dating podcast why would you abstain from
00:57:26.560
answering such a basic question i'd be happy to answer like other questions i'm comfortable with
00:57:33.560
if you care about physical appearance in a partner i don't know i don't understand at all
00:57:42.660
i'll give you the if you don't want to rate yourself that's fine but
00:57:48.120
you can't even state whether you care about physical attractiveness or not
00:57:54.480
um yeah i just would rather not answer the question i think there's been some
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other women on here who abstain to answer as well for their personal reasons and i have mine
00:58:06.460
well i don't know one who has abstained from answering whether or not they have a preference of
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being physically attracted to somebody else i'm not sure i've ever heard that abstain from never
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heard like brian's like brian says uh it seems perfectly reasonable if you want to abstain from
00:58:21.560
answering that question about yourself uh but i can't actually figure out a single reason why you'd
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want to abstain from answering whether or not you just physical attraction is something which is
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important to you or not important to you in a relationship that makes no sense to me
00:58:36.480
i ditto i don't understand um yeah and i'll give my reason for that um which is that you know i'm here
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to be an ambassador of christ and i don't think i have it you know all in terms of like i'm not a
00:58:52.040
perfect person and i want to make sure that i'm not displaying anything incorrectly so anything that
00:58:57.000
i don't know um in terms of you know whether this is a good way to we're not we're not asking you
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if this is a perfect person and we're not saying that christians believe that they're perfect people
00:59:10.680
for that's absurd just asking you like like this do you like pickles on your hamburger
00:59:16.560
yeah okay great why are you able to answer that question but not whether or not physical
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attractiveness is important to you i don't understand because pickles and a hamburger
00:59:27.300
is i mean that's food and we're talking about people and yeah i know well we're just talking
00:59:32.320
about preferences i want to be very careful because you know i think things like physical attractiveness
00:59:37.500
matters in this world um it in negative ways and positive ways and i just want to make sure that
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hey well hang on but i don't i don't understand it's just a preference answer we're just asking
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for a preference is do you have a preference uh where in other words do you have any kind of
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preference at all in the opposite sex for attractiveness if you're going to date them
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or marry them or something like this that is not even a worldly answer that just seems like it's
01:00:17.760
common sense yeah so i i do um i have an answer to this question but um and i'm i don't mind um giving
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this answer to people close to me um that's not on live stream um i'm even more inclined to not
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answer because i feel there's a lot of pushback for me just not wanting to answer a question because
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well it sounds very prideful it's not from my perspective it sounds like you're being very
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prideful and doing everything that you can in order to piety signal from a basic question like
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this and now that you understand that it's absurd that you're not answering the pride is that you're
01:00:54.380
doubling down so maybe just uh why not just not be so prideful and just say hey of course i i have
01:01:00.520
some kind of physical preference for a person i would date that seems totally reasonable i don't even
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know how that could hurt a single soul on planet earth for you to say that i honestly can't yeah
01:01:11.660
so you're accusing me of a very serious sin no no no actually address his question yeah um well no i'm
01:01:19.900
i want to address what he said which is that you know you're saying that i'm very prideful and no i'm
01:01:24.940
saying you're being very prideful right now brian's roth donated 100 these are the most surface level
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beginner questions too don't tell us you're going to refrain from answering this but later tell us
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your favorite sex position is upside down pile driver
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i'm not saying i'm not saying you're a prideful person i'm not making any such accusation at all
01:01:51.560
just saying that right now it seems like the only reason you're being resistant to this to just
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answering this basic question is because you understand now that it's kind of absurd that
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you won't and you're doubling down and i don't know what pride is other than that unless you can
01:02:05.140
give me an actual reason a foundational reason either biblical or non-biblical even from a secular
01:02:11.880
prism i'll accept that for why it would possibly be that you would say that you you do or don't have
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preferences when it comes to physical attractiveness in a relationship that just seems absurd to me
01:02:22.440
cost times donated 107 dollars omg the non-answer so annoying brian andrew please help good night
01:02:34.400
married guy out hey good night married guy have a good night thank you appreciate it uh
01:02:41.380
you two on this question have ate up like 30 minutes of the show you could just like
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i don't know in what scenario someone who's religious someone who's secular would ever judge
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you for saying that for you that you care about someone's physical appearance because you have an
01:03:07.980
answer to it you said you had an answer to it you just don't want to reveal it on the podcast
01:03:14.040
um okay so sorry what did you okay so i um i feel very uncomfortable with the fact that you guys are
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really pushing me to answer a question i've already said that i'm not comfortable answering
01:03:30.420
um there's just some questions i'm sorry that that your comfort level is put in the realm of
01:03:36.600
discomfort but i'm not here to make you comfortable that's not what my purpose is my purpose instead
01:03:42.400
is to dive into your worldview and figure out if uh you know what what what's what what's going on
01:03:49.140
up there as far as an interpersonal how you view interpersonal relationships that's the point of the
01:03:54.020
podcast not to make you comfortable so the question still remains i don't actually understand why you
01:04:00.440
won't answer the question and i wish that you would give us a reason for that i already gave my reason
01:04:06.360
for that and i um because i don't want to i think i think i think you're trying to try a reason
01:04:12.160
grid one motorsports donated one hundred dollars you can be honest you were not expecting the smoke
01:04:18.560
and you do not want any more i will be nice if you are going to be genuine do not worry the
01:04:24.800
patriarchy is here for you and values your existence we have another one coming in in just a moment so i'm
01:04:31.520
going to preempt it um it should be here in just a few seconds it might get uh it might not actually
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read loose pussy energy donated one hundred dollars fucking cap these religious nut job three hundred and
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fours cannot stop capping get the fuck out with that bullshit answer or get the fuck out time to frank
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castle this is sparta hashtag get the rocks hashtag phrenic number eight at eighteen
01:05:04.560
so do you want to give we're not going to push back really any further but do you at least kind
01:05:13.440
of want to explain your refusal like why you're refusing to answer a fairly basic question um i already
01:05:19.740
answered the question earlier and anytime i speak um andrew you know is interrupting me so i can't even
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get out an answer okay so um i'll i'll just um so i i will you know i'm just gonna leave it there
01:05:36.040
i'm not comfortable answering the questions i will this question and i will not answer further can you
01:05:42.320
tell us that's fine if you don't want to answer the question but can you tell us why
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i want to make sure that the questions i'm answering are glorifying to god and if there's any doubt in my
01:05:55.320
mind that is not glorifying to god i will abstain from answering okay that is my answer and i i explained
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this earlier but i think that in some sense um andrew is trying to squeeze out another answer from me
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and i'm not gonna give a you know any other answer than that okay um you're not gonna give
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any answers that are not glorifying i just want to note i didn't interrupt you i'll let you let you
01:06:25.420
give your entire answer right for why you won't give an answer i'm sorry can you repeat that oh my god
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i just want to let you know i didn't interrupt you i gave you all the chance in the world to give your
01:06:36.900
answer just now and i didn't say a word i think i'm a solid five okay yeah i'm gonna make this easy
01:06:45.060
for you guys and i would say i'm a solid eight yeah i would say i'm a five okay okay uh so 9.5
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okay first off there's no 10s at the table let me get that out of the way
01:07:08.320
uh and also the 9.5 is 9.8 sorry you guys are also wrong sorry i'm not i'm not even offended at
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all it's your opinion i don't care i have mine oh we didn't rate ourselves andrew should we rate
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ourselves or should we abstain or should we abstain from answering the question i'm not saying i'm a
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four would be glorifying to god i give myself a five i'm a five what are you andrew four okay i'd say
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that's true oh wow okay she's got smoke for you uh no no i i totally agree just like i agree with
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brian that in the world that you're a 10 is the same world that clowns are in the government so
01:07:47.660
well wait maybe that is this world i don't know oh there you have it there you have it
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maybe that is this world um okay where were i'm trying oh we were talking about everyone's
01:07:58.020
relationship status so what's going on oh we're going around uh okay so i'll do this why did
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your boyfriend break up with you your last relationship yes um it was mutual i can't say
01:08:11.300
who walked away from who but um i think it's obviously he had to do something with um
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that i started making a lot of money through only fans and um that does make me a little bit
01:08:23.020
more dominating he was not as ambitious as me and i kind of um wanted him to get up and like
01:08:28.580
you know match my energy and um he wasn't you know stimulating my mind and i kind of just got
01:08:35.960
bored i kind of grew out of it it was like i pushed him to like be better and he wasn't listening
01:08:39.900
um but i still like love respect him um so i think it just probably had to do with that we just grew
01:08:45.100
apart because our lives kind of changed and he wasn't moving and i was moving forward what was he doing
01:08:49.640
for work um well i met him as a trainer like a fitness trainer and i told him like okay let's
01:08:56.680
think about a business for you and wait you were the trainer or he was no he was he he was a personal
01:09:02.100
trainer was he working full time um when i first met him correct yes okay and um i was kind of like
01:09:09.620
all right i think that we should just kind of like invest our time into figuring out a business for you
01:09:13.260
like we're together like let's do it was he content continuing doing the career that he was doing
01:09:19.260
when you met him which was personal training i mean i i feel like he was miserable you know he
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was waking up was he he was he was waking very early and just saying that he wanted out but um
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and i was you know giving him as much advice as i can and you know i essentially pulled him out of his
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job and said okay i have i have the household down just let's he was miserable because of his job
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well you know waking up early not getting enough pay putting a lot of effort not reaching goals
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because of whatever it was you know logan daily donated 99 and 50 cents i understand that you
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want to do your best and glorify god however it's coming off as piety signaling i hope you too will
01:10:01.580
continue to search for christ and come home to orthodoxy big t says hi thank you logan appreciate it
01:10:09.260
uh okay but so you do uh so you were when you met him significantly out earning him correct um i start
01:10:18.180
i began to yes like with some time i started making more money how many followers do you have on
01:10:23.140
instagram 5.7 million okay and you do only fans correct yes okay you make six figures a month yes
01:10:32.220
okay how old was he um when i first started dating him 27 were you hoping that he would make as much
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as you or more no because i mean realistically speaking it's impossible making six figures a
01:10:48.200
month puts you in less than the one percent correct i was just okay so most men are not going to be
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the vast majority 99 of men are not going to be able to match you financially and that's fine i never
01:10:59.740
needed him to um but you it was an issue for you in the relationship that he wasn't it was an issue
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that he would wake up at 2 p.m when i gave him all the business ideas and said i can invest into you
01:11:09.440
and as long as you put the work in i'm okay with you know following your dream and it wasn't like he
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wasn't he just was worrying about the wrong things or you know it was just he wasn't putting the effort
01:11:21.860
towards you know wanting more for himself wow we donated 100 has she never seen
01:11:29.720
this podcast like why go on here if you refuse to answer the most innocent questions they ask
01:11:36.380
i'm answering the other questions any questions i'm not comfortable answering i'm not going to answer
01:11:43.560
and i'm not going to let peer pressure um force me to give an answer that i'm not can i say something
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to that i do think that this is the beginning of the show and if that just simple question made you
01:11:54.480
uncomfortable i think it's going to get a lot more intense and it's going to take up a lot of time
01:11:57.500
and if you're that sensitive i think that you should be considerate and just kind of just
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just say a short answer can you just skip me and go forward because there's a lot of people on the
01:12:05.320
table and i mean it could just make a lot of people uncomfortable you know what i mean and it's it's i i get
01:12:10.980
what you believe in and everything but it's like it's it's just it's going on and on and on and you're
01:12:16.500
here on a podcast you're here to speak let other people speak just tell them skip the night to the next
01:12:20.360
person it's just what it's manners it's if you see read the room you see people getting frustrated
01:12:25.040
like read the room correctly yeah you know and i and i i i'm so for like you voicing yourself but
01:12:31.600
just read the room and understand when it's not it's time to just skip over the question because
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that's yeah how she how she ever going to get all the attention that she wants if uh we're focusing
01:12:40.340
too much on you right um exactly well you keep asking us questions yeah you keep asking us questions
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asking us questions and we're just responding my answer was very simple i don't want to answer and it
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was supposed to go to the next person like if there's a bunch of sophistry like
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just don't answer it's almost like i'm trying to think of an example of a question that i could ask
01:13:04.540
you that you might opt to reject answering and then well then that inspires and then in us
01:13:12.100
wanting to dive into well why the objection to answering an otherwise innocent question i will i think
01:13:20.040
it's respectful because to just move on because i gave my answer and instead of respecting the
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answer and saying okay she's uncomfortable let's just move on to the next person i'm being grilled
01:13:29.540
and peer pressured into answering well okay let me let me ask you a question or let me frame it like
01:13:35.020
this so what are you only here to represent the christian worldview if it's comfortable because now
01:13:41.280
you have people who are adversarial to your left it looks like from my perspective right so your job
01:13:48.780
is to push back right isn't that your job that's not my job no it's not your job
01:13:54.380
our job is to encourage and not convince we're it's not our job to convince you guys that god does
01:14:01.780
that we're just telling our stories and giving our answers cool so oh we got this uh to the godly
01:14:08.980
woman take no advice from only fans uh blank dumpsters christ is king okay all right uh
01:14:17.720
and that's the kind of stuff i'm talking about like we don't say that to other people and then
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say christ is king christ is not okay with that kind of behavior yeah that's not godly and on top of
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that i if i'm not comfortable answering a question i'm sorry but we could have just left it there and so
01:14:32.420
i'm sorry if you felt like wait so question for you is why are you sorry it's not your job to convince
01:14:41.160
her is is the sky blue the sky can be different colors yeah it's when it's the daytime when it's
01:14:51.400
3 p.m in southern california and there's no clouds is the sky blue yeah okay now if you said well i don't
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feel comfortable answering that question that might prompt me to be like well that's a bit ridiculous
01:15:07.100
why do you refuse to answer such a basic wow i donated 100 you didn't answer my question though
01:15:16.140
have you seen this podcast before what was your purpose coming on if you don't have an answer
01:15:22.020
yeah that's a good question i have seen this podcast before and there's a lot of questions that
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are appropriate and that i'm comfortable answering and there's other questions like
01:15:30.900
what's your body count that i'm not comfortable answering and i'm not going to be peer pressured
01:15:34.440
into answering something i'm not comfortable talking about i understand brian what you're
01:15:39.000
saying oops sorry i didn't mean to go ahead that was my that was me triggering that on accident
01:15:43.280
um i understand what you're saying that you know if this is this seems like such a basic question to
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you so why would i you know want to refrain from answering but i gave my answer i gave my answer
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you can look back in the video and um and then after that i just kept getting um questioned and
01:16:03.400
straw manned by andrew sounds like a lot of work okay uh we're talking about relationships uh
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why did your last boyfriend dump you he didn't oh you you broke up with him i did okay what about you
01:16:23.820
is it because he didn't think he was a 10 out of 10 i'll just be really raw with you you're probably
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going to be shocked i'll be very raw be raw i'm very raw here we go let's let's go um long story short
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i met him he said he was a believer turns out he was a warlock in hiding and i found out
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like legit warlock i don't say that like yes who warlock yeah i'm being serious yeah like a level 60
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warlock was the alliance or horde what do you mean by warlock like did he was it like the alliance or
01:17:01.100
the horde horde yeah i've never heard those words before but i'm assuming yeah like he actually
01:17:06.660
did spells like on the horde side like yes yeah on the horde side he would be either undead
01:17:13.620
or troll or orc he was but alliance side he could be human or he could be known no i get what she's
01:17:21.360
saying so he's like level 60 like was he what spec was he he was in the santa muerta religion the
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what santa muerta it's like a hispanic witchcraft yeah and then slowly like was he a pumper in
01:17:35.000
nax ramus i'm sorry uh he's making wait i'm sorry that's that was catholic right hold on that's a
01:17:41.120
catholic so he had he had the mixture of the catholicism with his witchcraft yes yes yeah so
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he was a pumper in nax ramus like 99 parses and shit i don't know what that is i'm sorry
01:17:52.160
like did he i don't know is he more of a pvp guy or pve guy like when he played his warlock
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i'm sorry i don't know what that means no like you know warcraft logs is that a game like a video
01:18:07.340
well that's a website to track like you know your skill and pv environment like there's molten core
01:18:12.440
bwl nax ramus aq40 like was he a pumper i don't know was he a pumper like did he did he tank
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like in aq40 did he tank twin emps he okay was he a tank for twin emps you know what aq40 the only
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thing i can say about that is he literally was in gangs though he told me that later on in the
01:18:32.260
relationship was he like affliction spec or did he like spec into destruction
01:18:35.700
is he playing season of discovery right now probably
01:18:40.640
sod we've had stay safe on the show before he's like he mains warlocks all the time so maybe we
01:18:48.840
can like get them linked up like is he is he in a guild or what's up he's he's not in a place for
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that he's not in a place for that i don't like i haven't talked to him in a while but what's your
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main like what do you play i'm so glad i'm not dating donated 100 first timothy 2 12 i do not
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permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man rather she is to remain quiet if you're
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such a godly woman just close your rock holster we prefer yes sir do you guys want to respond to that
01:19:20.200
no well um look up uh deborah and esther in the bible and i think that'll answer your uh comment
01:19:27.920
thank you okay oh we have let me read this really quick sean bailey claire tell andrew about your cool
01:19:38.460
orthodox friend um that's my orthodox friend oh sean uh okay that's it all right oh hi sean
01:19:49.680
wait so your last boyfriend jokes aside was a warlock yes yeah okay in the what religion
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santa morte it's basically demonic so it doesn't matter what you call it but he lied to you and
01:20:07.280
said he was christian yeah and and honestly it was it was it was on my end too it was partially my fault
01:20:13.740
because i didn't sense it because i stopped reading scripture and praying and i i became very like
01:20:18.340
obsessed with him you know and that's why like i'm in a season of singleness right now because like
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we are just obsessed with each other each other i get all into the guy and then i stop focusing on
01:20:27.340
god so that's my personal story and journey um but here's the turnaround i just want to say yeah
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um the turnaround of that last month he messaged me after a couple months we didn't talk and he said
01:20:40.220
this is what he said and i believe it because i felt it in the in his voice because we facetimed and
01:20:44.940
he said hey i just i know we're not together i just want to let you know that um i started praying
01:20:50.320
and i had an encounter with god and um someone who used to be a gang member just like me um he
01:20:55.660
actually spoke into my life and he's a christian now and that really convicted me so there's a good
01:20:59.740
turnaround to that but at first yeah that it was terrible because he tried to do all these spells on
01:21:04.980
me like it was a whole thing and um it was really scary but god yeah
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word okay yep so he's christian now he said so yeah or is it just a ploy to get you back and he's
01:21:27.840
he's probably still a warlock because he lied to you the first time right yes does he wear like
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was he dress gothic type he had like he would always wear like a white t-shirt and like jeans
01:21:40.700
and like white tennis shoes and had his hair in a ponytail and a hat wait did you guys have
01:21:46.980
no carnal what's the how's the most polite phrasing carnal did you have carnal knowledge
01:21:56.980
did you guys have carnal knowledge of each other like did we were we sexually intimate
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p in the v you know i love that you just comment on that i've actually been celibate since last may
01:22:10.420
yep so no yes that's awesome i'm proud of you cheyenne i'm proud of you thank you because it's
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it was hard it was hard to turn down the warlock i bet it was like he sounds like i mean you guys
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differed like in your in your like you guys differed in that regard but i feel like once you meet a
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warlock like how do you turn that down i'm still healing from it
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so there's no carnal knowledge i need to start using that carnal knowledge
01:22:48.980
by the way has anybody here i i want to do a show recommendation the tutors it's a bit dated
01:22:57.780
guys it came out like 2007 2008 the tutors it's a bit slow compared to uh some more modern shows
01:23:06.040
if you compare it to breaking bad etc moves a little slow but uh the main actor jonathan reese myers is
01:23:13.200
is a powerhouse of an actor and i strongly recommend watching uh that show but i have
01:23:20.080
from that show i've gained a new a new term carnal knowledge
01:23:24.320
thank you for the uh 50 thank you appreciate it man um we have a couple chats coming in but so there
01:23:34.680
was no carnal knowledge with the warlock as in was i tempted sexually like no like you had p in the v
01:23:41.580
no sexual and of course nope okay was there s-ing the d
01:23:47.500
what is that i'm sorry cheyenne matthews i'm surprised i don't know that but no i don't know
01:23:55.380
how do you not know this i don't know okay no i didn't do that no no s-ing the d okay i'm proud of
01:24:01.360
you i'm proud of you you gotta be careful with the warlocks because sometimes you know
01:24:09.360
anyways yeah uh let me read these chats really quick
01:24:14.480
what is everyone's favorite movie including maddie andrew and gustavo please okay go ahead
01:24:22.480
star wars casino oh good i like that's a good movie butterfly effect that's a good one too
01:24:30.640
girl beyond the lights life of pie are you sure you're okay are you sure let me just double
01:24:38.240
i want to check here let's do a little check-in are you comfortable answering this question
01:24:43.920
okay go ahead hacksaw ridge oh okay that's that's a good one uh coralline oh super bad
01:25:08.880
the fuck i thought this guy was chilean okay um boom book lot okay
01:25:20.560
am i am i not allowed to say that is that no i love it that's a curse word i just love it means
01:25:24.160
fuck it's bad yeah yeah all day sorry like probably the widest person to ever say that word
01:25:31.360
wait what oh mine my favorite that's hard i like the matrix matrix is good
01:25:35.920
hell yeah that's good it's a great one and i like uh
01:25:39.200
shit andrew what about you starship troopers really yeah service guarantee citizenship
01:25:49.760
oh okay all right and then we have nickelodeon here what's the difference between a hard d
01:25:57.120
and a hard joke these holy hoes only find it hard to swallow the joke
01:26:05.680
sweet thank you nickelodeon good one let me read this one really quick
01:26:16.960
i can see it yeah it says help me here andrew how do we change society when we have cell phones
01:26:22.160
computers and instant gratification around every corner if we don't judge them and show them the
01:26:26.560
fall of their degeneracy for the short-lived happiness just love it away why would you ask
01:26:31.600
me that question does it seem like i'm uh loving it away or does it seem like i try to uh take people
01:26:37.520
on where they're at though he makes a good point he's talking about how technology has enabled the
01:26:42.880
sexual revolution feminism which has led to the current form of degeneracy but i digress i'm not
01:26:47.760
going to die too much into that appreciate the 50 bucks thank you thank you so going around the table
01:26:52.800
continuing uh why did your boyfriend last boyfriend dump you um yeah i broke up with him because um
01:27:02.240
you know this was before christ and we um was he a druid he was he actually did play well
01:27:09.120
shaman um he was a mage main he played mage yeah typically typical anyways you would date a mage
01:27:20.000
life on easy mode being a mage get those portals like to orgrimmar and was he horde or alliance horde
01:27:28.080
yeah aoe farming like life on easy mode anyways so why did you dump him or whatever it's because he was a
01:27:35.840
major no um um just because i think there was a lot of emotional cheating that was going on
01:27:45.840
and emotional cheating yeah and then he had an issue with me being like doing like only fans content
01:27:52.720
and at the time i couldn't see that i'm like well who cares like you know like why does that matter
01:27:58.720
if you know i'm not the one doing anything and i couldn't see that hypocrisy so while in the
01:28:05.280
meantime i was upset with him for following only fans girls and it was just this ridiculous like
01:28:11.040
back and forth and we just couldn't come to a conclusion until um you know i came to christ and
01:28:17.440
i realized like oh my gosh like i was wrong we were both wrong and i reached out to him and reconciled and
01:28:23.200
asked for his forgiveness this is i have a question that's totally unrelated and i forgot if it was
01:28:29.680
cheyenne is it how do you say sheyenne but did you say that we're made in the image of god
01:28:37.760
i'm clear no i know but i forgot which one of you said but did you say that me but do you agree with
01:28:44.160
her that we're made in the yeah okay i have a question for you and it's maybe semi-related to the
01:28:54.160
question you refuse to answer but i noticed that you're wearing color contacts um
01:29:00.960
i don't know biblically if there's anything there when it comes to altering your appearance but
01:29:09.440
you know what i mean you know what i mean what is your question well he's why he's wondering if
01:29:16.640
you if you wear the contact lenses because you think it makes you look better than if you wear glasses
01:29:21.440
um yeah i wear contacts because i think i look better in it than i do glasses that's like a half
01:29:28.880
answer to the previous question wait but it oh go ahead is it coming full circle brian is it coming full
01:29:38.800
circle yeah a little bit what am i on to something here i feel like i'm on to something with the
01:29:52.080
colored contact contacts but i i don't know how to articulate it well so no he's just he's just
01:29:59.440
wondering like clearly clearly you have some some sort of self-rating for how it is that you must look
01:30:09.680
and appear to other people because you yourself think you look better with the contacts than without
01:30:14.800
the contacts so he's just he's just saying like is that is that a glorification of god that you wear
01:30:21.280
contact lenses instead of glasses um well the the point that i was like making when i was coming on
01:30:30.480
when i was talking earlier about um that whether that question glorifies god is that i wasn't sure
01:30:35.680
if it glorified god so i'm gonna stay on the safe side and not answer that question um i have the answers
01:30:42.320
to these questions but i'm going to abstain and i'm not going to entertain any sort of trying to
01:30:48.000
squeeze out an answer from me well in this particular case though um we're just all i'm
01:30:55.520
doing is asking about consistency so if if it is that i'm not answering question a because it's no
01:31:01.920
glorification of god is there a glorification of god in you answering whether or not you wear
01:31:06.800
contact lenses instead of glasses because you think that it makes other people think you're more
01:31:10.880
attractive in some way um i think the way that i see that is like me wearing the color green right
01:31:19.360
now like is that glorifying to god yeah i can do that to the glory of god how what do you mean how
01:31:27.200
can you elaborate yeah how is it glorifying to god that you wear green because you think it makes
01:31:31.680
you look better i think we have free will and we can choose what color to wear and you know i'm not
01:31:36.880
asking about free will i'm asking about how you think that's my answer to your question is that
01:31:41.840
how is that oh okay well how does free will explain how it glorifies god if you wear green
01:31:48.800
um the bible says to do all things to the glory of god and even eating food so i can even ask you
01:31:54.400
like how is eating food you're just asserting the claim you're just reasserting the claim i already
01:31:59.360
know what the claim is yeah i'm asking you how it does this thing yeah so i'm doing it to the glory
01:32:05.280
of god that we have free will and we can choose what colors to wear what foods to eat that's my
01:32:09.600
answer yeah but how does it glorify god for you to wear green without reasserting the claim that it
01:32:17.360
does because it does tell me how it does free will and our ability to choose and that we're not just
01:32:25.680
robots that wear gray or all you know wearing like black and white so that is my answer well free will
01:32:32.960
would assert that you can wear green even if it was not to the glory of god not that you're wearing
01:32:40.800
green because it is a glorification to him i think we can do all things to the glory of god and that's
01:32:46.640
what scripture says yeah i know i'm asking you how the color you wearing the color green would be a
01:32:52.080
glorification of god i'm so glad i'm not that if donated 100 so you too outwardly appear righteous
01:33:02.640
to men but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness matthew 23 28 stop being self-righteous
01:33:10.400
you make the of hoes seem tolerable yeah well anyway um so back to the reason i'm asking this
01:33:19.440
question i'll just give you i'll just give you the answer right the reason i'm asking this question
01:33:23.920
as to how because i think grid one motorsports donated 100 so i obviously missed something
01:33:31.280
here asian of girl has nudes out on the internet but she refused to rate her potential as a wife
01:33:37.120
wow god would love for you to be honest and genuine do better that's correct i'm gonna refuse to rate
01:33:44.160
my potential wife rate and my looks yeah okay so anyway um thank you just just from my perspective
01:33:53.760
uh and i i do love grid one he's good guy but uh from my perspective i'm just trying to figure out
01:33:59.200
how these things how you came to the conclusion that this equates glorification of god you say because
01:34:06.480
i have free will yes you have free will nobody's disputing that but you can use the free will for
01:34:10.640
evil ends as well the question just becomes how is you not wearing glasses and wearing contacts instead
01:34:17.120
because you think it makes you look more attractive to another person is the glorification of god without
01:34:23.200
us making the assertion another assertion can you just tell me how from your world view it does um
01:34:30.160
i'd be happy to maybe have this conversation with you like separately with another individual but on the
01:34:36.960
podcast like i've already explained that i'm not gonna you know go further with the original question
01:34:42.480
and people have expressed here that they're getting frustrated with this constant back and forth so i won't
01:34:48.320
answer anymore i'm not gonna answer anymore i attest to that it's good yeah who cares they just want
01:34:53.520
they just want their attention right we're having a good exchange here it's not a good exchange
01:34:57.520
no it's not that we want our attention we want to hear everyone's answer yeah yeah yeah yeah
01:35:02.000
i've never thought it's ridiculous we're almost done we're almost done we just want to hear
01:35:06.480
everyone answer the questions everything about them i've been on so many podcasts let's go
01:35:11.040
move on we don't want to hear about your why did your boyfriend i broke up with him and i just it
01:35:16.880
was i just wasn't feeling it anymore you weren't feeling it anymore wow it's so easy right to answer boom boom
01:35:24.160
get it over with what do you mean you weren't feeling i just wasn't feeling love for him and
01:35:28.640
like i just didn't want to be in a relationship anymore okay it was a month it was only a month
01:35:34.160
so it wasn't like i was like you know all right yeah it's easy there you go there you go baby yes
01:35:39.840
good girl she's never been in a relationship oh yeah she's never been in a relationship
01:35:42.880
what about you um we just parted ways and it just started to get physical sorry to get
01:35:52.240
oh oh no after you parted ways um or how well that's why i broke up with him oh oh
01:35:58.800
good for you cut that so like immediately once it got physical you immediately broke up with him
01:36:06.880
okay good good uh it occurs to me oftentimes i hear from women saying well why are men scared
01:36:15.200
of commitment why are men scared of commitment men are commitment phobic but when we went around
01:36:20.960
the table here and i asked you sort of how what what the downfall was of your last relationships
01:36:27.120
almost all of you said that you initiated the breakups and it occurs to me that and perhaps we
01:36:32.240
could go around the table really quickly on this more often than not actually just show of hands
01:36:36.160
more often than not in any scenario where you're and it could be early on like a couple dates and
01:36:42.560
you're saying and not really feeling it all the way to long term been dating for years more often
01:36:47.520
than not are you pumping the brakes and ending things long term or short term or is the guy so so
01:36:54.960
show hands more often than not if you're ending it i'm like really like in the middle it's been
01:37:00.960
like super 50 50 for me it's me absolutely always you i wouldn't have wanted to i would have just
01:37:06.320
wanted to fix it same for all your relationships though more often than not are you ending show of
01:37:12.160
hands if you're ending things more often than not okay so it occurs to me then women often complain
01:37:18.080
like i said of men being scared of commitment but if women are overwhelmingly ending relationships
01:37:24.400
and also we have the divorce statistics women are overwhelmingly initiating divorce do men have
01:37:30.320
reason it's not one i don't even think if it's clear to me that men are scared of commitment
01:37:37.280
but maybe they righteously do have a reason to be scared of it because women overwhelmingly end
01:37:42.400
relationships and then secondly um why is it that you guys so desperately want commitment
01:37:49.840
but then when you get it you guys overwhelmingly end said relationships
01:37:54.720
i don't think there was commitment that's why it was ended i think fear that they're going to leave
01:38:01.360
you wait you so you back out yeah oh okay i think women just want commitment from the right person if
01:38:08.720
it's not the right person they're going to end it no but i'm assuming this is like you got commitment
01:38:13.840
right perhaps not in the short terms one but in the long-term relationships i'm assuming you guys had
01:38:18.880
commitment so you're talking about like long-term relationships or like dating like well i mean
01:38:28.640
i'm speaking more more so with long-term relationships okay yeah
01:38:34.560
what's the crickets gotcha bitch is that okay i didn't checkmate i guess i just wasn't in love the
01:38:42.880
one time that i was in a that long-term relationship we're almost married i just didn't want to i wanted
01:38:48.320
to have that like feeling of love and i and i didn't feel like it was right for him okay because
01:38:53.120
i don't want to be selfish and just be like this is great like we're best friends everything's great
01:38:56.560
but i also want better for him i want him to find that girl that's going to be like absolutely obsessed
01:39:01.360
with him and i didn't want to just like do it because my family loved it and he you know what i mean i
01:39:06.320
wanted him to find that well my long-term relationship it ended because we both just
01:39:12.320
grew apart it just it was we were like roommates at one point it just it was no longer a sexual or
01:39:18.720
romantic thing it was like a roommate vibe dead bedroom yes essentially like having sex once a year
01:39:26.560
whose fault was that both of our fault so he had a like a job in the nightlife working at a nightclub
01:39:34.320
and i was an eight to five graphic designer so we had very opposite hours right i see yeah
01:39:40.800
so we just grew apart interesting all right yeah we'll go so we've gotten a bit of a rundown on all
01:39:45.760
of your most recent relationships and uh how they ended to some degree so going back to the question of
01:39:53.040
what does being single actually mean uh you've got some attractive girls at the table i'm sure there's
01:39:59.280
some guys in the dms or you're dating them or you're having sex behind the nightclub but i don't
01:40:06.960
know um i mean i'm single i'm gonna just you're just gonna what mingle when's the last time when's
01:40:15.360
the last time you were on a date with a guy two weeks ago two weeks ago yeah
01:40:19.840
when's the last time you had carnal knowledge of a man
01:40:29.040
i think this is a really great question i don't even know a great question answer
01:40:32.240
wait truthfully today yes can you please explain the term again what do you mean
01:40:38.000
oh oh fuck okay yeah we had sex today two weeks ago oh today yes you had sex today but the last time
01:40:44.080
you went on a date was two weeks two weeks ago and yeah i had sex okay with the guy you went on
01:40:56.000
all her best friends like i know yeah she does a different guy shut
01:41:01.120
yes it was it was a different guy so you went on a so i'm curious yeah i did not have you ever
01:41:05.840
gone on a date with the guy that you had sex with today no i ain't going on a date today with
01:41:11.120
that guy no no have you ever gone on a date with him yes yes i have okay yeah but you don't count
01:41:18.000
like the first date having sexes oh no i don't count that it was just like we had sex it was great
01:41:26.320
and i was like all right see ya did you was it like you went over there today or you spent the night
01:41:31.680
yesterday type last it was like i spent the night like last week oh he's talking about today this
01:41:38.080
morning yeah no i haven't what oh is it shoot yes manuel ferrara who's that wait hold on famous
01:41:45.840
porn star who the fuck is that guy they all know they know who he is all these guys well you already
01:41:51.840
asked me what i do so like oh so it was for work then yeah why are you trying to tell me or make it
01:41:56.480
sound i thought i thought it was more like it was not a date because you don't you i assume you don't
01:41:59.760
consider that like a date i do not not a date but like let's say it was just a civilian
01:42:08.560
or like let's say it wasn't for work but it was still like a co uh someone also in the industry
01:42:13.920
like a one-night stand you guys do you guys off camera you mean you guys like i don't do off camera
01:42:18.480
on camera off camera that's what you mean if i have off camera sex i'm actually going on a date with the
01:42:23.600
guy like if they want to go on a date which sometimes they do and i'm just like all right
01:42:29.040
cool well this is what i do how many um scenes do you do per week i'm not mainstream so i don't really
01:42:36.640
do like okay that many when i travel for work that's when i'm doing scenes like yeah but i'm collabing
01:42:44.160
so okay probably like if i'm out here for like one week i'll do five five scenes with different different
01:42:52.400
men hell yeah okay i see uh all right and then are you aside from the scenes that you're doing for
01:42:59.200
your work are you uh sexually active are you pursuing any men no romantically not really i flirt with
01:43:07.600
people would you guys would you guys date uh like a another guy who's in the no not right now industry
01:43:13.280
okay uh okay so you flirt but no carnal knowledge no not really okay all right do you have a roster
01:43:22.160
currently what's a roster mean like scheduled guys like you have you got multiple guys you're
01:43:28.560
currently entertaining you may or may not be sleeping with oh you're talking about like
01:43:32.320
dating wise like a roster dating wise there's like wait as opposed to sex i thought you i thought you
01:43:37.920
talked about like my work schedule um there's like one or two guys there's one guy okay one and a half
01:43:48.160
any one and a half okay it's really one guy but have you guys had carnal knowledge yeah like could
01:43:58.160
you just say like three years ago three years ago he's a college sweetheart type of deal which
01:44:05.440
which community college was it it was not community college oh oops sorry my bad which one which uh maybe
01:44:11.600
you don't want to say i don't such a comedian champlain college from like it's a it's an art
01:44:17.280
college in vermont all right uh so what about you you got do you have a roster right now i don't have
01:44:23.280
a roster no roster ever had a roster no never had a roster actually i'm a very demisexual person like
01:44:28.560
in my personal life for the last few years i've been through so much with guys i'll be honest this is
01:44:33.840
honesty make the funny noises what is demi demisexual is like i i used to need like a strong
01:44:41.040
connection so i could say used to so now you don't used to now now it doesn't matter no it doesn't
01:44:46.400
matter so now it's like work related so like i said i was a nurse for 13 years i was a neonatal icu
01:44:52.400
nurse i was the good girl that you guys love up until 35 nurses are red flags to be honest okay that's
01:44:57.760
fine that's the red flag for you it's a projection but i was no it's okay what is it like studied red
01:45:03.200
flag were you a travel nurse nope i was a neonatal icu nurse i took care of not that you just you
01:45:08.960
you're never traveled rn rn yeah red flag okay that's your red flag that's not huge red flag for
01:45:16.160
you for is that for society is that like studied is that like what a lot of dudes a lot of dudes who
01:45:22.560
are these a lot of dudes a lot of dudes on your show or just like is it studied in general okay
01:45:27.120
cool in general trust trust okay there's a lot of nurses out there we've all had our our experiences i
01:45:33.440
think nurses are great and we need them in society so i think we should stop saying stuff like that
01:45:36.800
because there's not going to be there's going to be a shortage of nurses soon for people like you
01:45:40.080
that say that and say that nurses are red flags you you think there's going to be a shortage of
01:45:43.760
nurses yes there absolutely is going to be a shortage of my podcast no we get treated like
01:45:48.080
shit in the workplace we don't make enough money because if i made enough money i wouldn't be a
01:45:52.080
porn star on the internet nurses make pretty good money no we don't yeah let's go let's have this
01:45:56.560
debate right now can i ask something yeah sure yeah you said that you wouldn't make money um you
01:46:02.080
wouldn't be doing um porn work i wouldn't if i made more money as a nurse absolutely not never
01:46:07.680
how much were you making um so i live in new york city i live in brooklyn as a single woman i was
01:46:12.240
a nurse for 13 years i started my career at eighty thousand dollars a year so after two full weeks of
01:46:19.120
working the most intensive job handing people are dead babies i had a very stressful job and i love to say
01:46:25.200
this and i love to say what nurses nursing is really like sometimes so i would come home my paycheck would be
01:46:31.680
like eight nine hundred dollars after taxes in new york city so after two weeks of full work
01:46:37.920
stressed out 16 hour days dealing with the most stressful job i was at a breaking point i was 13
01:46:43.520
years in i would have had to work another 33 years as a nurse and i feel like it needs to change in
01:46:48.320
society and we need to just be serious about it and have conversations about it because i wouldn't
01:46:52.960
choose what i'm doing now i wouldn't i so they're i'm sorry i didn't mean to cut you off but
01:46:58.880
i did actually have a study for nurses i thought you might find it interesting um so it is true
01:47:05.600
that nurses do not have more sexual contacts than women not working in their profession point for you
01:47:10.720
right but more often betray their partners up to 25 percent more often and more than other women
01:47:18.160
they have more far more oral sex 70 to 50 percent anal sex 31 to 18 percent they're far more promiscuous
01:47:25.520
across the board okay that's if it's a fact is a fact what i'm what i'm saying is let me go back
01:47:31.600
to what i was saying as a nurse and why i made this this decision to do what i do now so hey you go back
01:47:36.960
to uh to what you were saying i just wanted to thank you for that little clip you had asked if there was
01:47:41.200
a study okay of any kind and yes this actually uh though the research is that's not a red flag that's
01:47:47.280
just the study is that a red infidelity is definitely greater likely yeah infidelity oh you didn't say
01:47:52.000
infidelity you just said we're more likely to have anal sex oral sex no he mentioned okay no no
01:47:57.120
infidelity 25 more likely to step out on the partner i was like graze and adam i've actually
01:48:02.000
never cheated on somebody i'm a nurse right in my life in general yeah but in general i mean in my life
01:48:07.920
i've never cheated on somebody actually and yeah we get we understand you may not have the green
01:48:12.000
we're just looking at why nurses would be a red flag or not okay i i get that it's studied i i get it
01:48:17.520
because everyone i'm not i'm not making a judgment on nurses in terms of their own profession i'm
01:48:21.600
going to come from a number one motorsports donated 100 this panel is kind of scuffed b one must ask
01:48:29.120
at this point what mind and mood altering substances are these folks on guessing it is a long list
01:48:35.280
crazy slash hot matrix in full effect cool okay anyway let's get back to our conversation
01:48:40.560
we're talking about uh actually i'm not really that interested in in nurses and red flags no no
01:48:46.640
just in the explanation of well here's how much you don't want to hear i think people should want to
01:48:50.800
hear about why i decided to fuck on the internet instead of actually taking care of dying and sick
01:48:54.880
children and being a great okay something in society which men would men would consider me a
01:48:59.600
high value woman well i mean when you put it that way okay yes yes i'll let's let's go because
01:49:05.040
you wanted interesting people on this podcast nurses are completely full of themselves you do
01:49:11.440
not have the hardest job in the world the lance corporal getting shot at has the hardest job in
01:49:17.040
the world you're not a victim you're a thought so nurses are thoughts
01:49:23.680
no he's saying you're i think i'm asking question nurses are thoughts you apostrophe re i don't think
01:49:28.800
he's making so i'm a thought okay i'm a thought now but let me go back a few years ago when i was a nurse
01:49:33.120
in an icu i didn't say at the heart one of the hardest jobs it's actually in the goodness book
01:49:36.880
of world records you could look it up nursing school is very challenging i'm a very educated
01:49:40.800
person nursing is the hardest job it's one of the heart it's very hard wait can we nick can you
01:49:45.360
pull up yeah i will hold on nursing school videos on the fucking boat pull up those boat videos
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wait there's i love how we can't answer my question about why i became a only fan
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like money and talking nursing is the hardest job what about like underwater um uh so would you be
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able to handle handle hand somebody they're dying children you think it's hard or not
01:50:08.640
emotionally mentally um physically educationally how do you think it's not hard you to do it
01:50:14.400
it's probably difficult yeah it's probably difficult it's a hard job probably that's another
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probably all the trauma that you see working that sort of job probably extends into the
01:50:23.840
relationships that you have with men it does which actually you're arguing for my point for why
01:50:28.880
women who are nurses can be a red flag because they're dealing with a lot of trauma in the
01:50:34.000
workplace okay and that's going to have an impact in the relationship so there should be therapy for
01:50:38.480
nurses you can get that on your own time but okay it's not clear to me that the insomnia i actually
01:50:45.520
try to get a sleep study they put me on ambient they a lot of stuff exhibit a exhibit a red flag right
01:50:51.920
i'm a red flag i mean you by your own self-admission you're saying because of my work i'm passionate
01:50:57.440
about what i do because of my work for nurses here are the all the negative consequences that i've
01:51:02.160
encountered in my personal life consequences and a lot of men don't want to date women with that sort
01:51:07.600
of baggage so why would anyone want to be a nurse should should we change this not saying it's a bad job
01:51:14.400
not call nurses red flags it's very triggering to somebody like me where i want to actually take care
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of people i wanted to do better in life and i wanted to be this person that i wanted to work
01:51:23.360
and make a difference and i i get hit with that my ex-boyfriend one of my boyfriends left me because
01:51:28.880
i would come home and i would cry and i would take my job home and i know you're stressed out or you're
01:51:33.280
like you're this is no i'm weird how can you say hold on wait wait wait just okay wait just just let
01:51:38.560
her finish so you would have a tough day at very tough day and you'd go home to your boyfriend and you'd
01:51:44.800
what cry he'd say i don't want to hear about your job and your day at work because i don't want to
01:51:49.360
take your and i understand that as a person now that's how is that not a red but i was in my early
01:51:53.520
20s how is that not a a undesirable okay it's undesirable uh scenario with a partner yes but i
01:52:01.520
understand that because i wouldn't want to deal with that either sometimes someone coming home
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then why do you object to me saying you have first-hand experience on this why do you hold on
01:52:09.920
let me finish okay why do you object to me saying it's a red flag when you yourself have
01:52:13.360
first-hand experience are red flags but not all nurses come home and do that
01:52:18.400
well why why risk it what do you mean right why risk what well i mean look he he cited the infidelity
01:52:26.880
he cited the infidelity study okay nursing in general in my understanding is a stressful job
01:52:33.920
a lot of people bring their stress in their workplace back to their home life back to their
01:52:38.400
relationships so good for you you're making more money than somebody who perhaps has a
01:52:44.320
what would you rather a simpler job as a nurse would you rather date me as an only friends girl
01:52:48.080
because i left because of the stress am i more desirable now or as a nurse answer that question
01:52:53.840
oh the oh as a nurse wait what what do you mean you would be more desirable as a nurse to date
01:53:00.160
because it's a red flag the of is worse yeah but the of is so i should have stayed as a nurse to find
01:53:06.560
a man right uh do you hang on i'm trying to answer your question right so here let me answer your
01:53:13.520
question okay yeah yes it would be more desirable to date a nurse over an only fans girl but that does
01:53:20.240
not negate the fact that there would still be red flags associated with nurses why would why would
01:53:26.080
these things exclude each other so doctors to be charitable hang on to be charitable to you you
01:53:30.720
are right i did confirm what you said which it is true that nursing a nursing degree is one of the
01:53:36.880
hardest ranked degrees to get so to be maximum charitable to you you were correct about that
01:53:42.160
but that does not negate whether or not for dating that would be a red flag or not okay would
01:53:47.600
you go on a date with a nurse yeah i've dated nurses and i have first-hand experience having
01:53:53.280
dated nurses also when it comes to specifically i know there's obviously nurses who are kind of
01:53:57.440
geographically locked they don't have plans to move but travel nurses for example i mean if they've had
01:54:02.720
20 previous assignments they've been in a place for three months in my head and i'm i see you on a
01:54:08.720
dating app i'm thinking like that's some flight attendant shit in each new city you fucked a bunch of
01:54:14.480
other dudes and we that's another conversation when it comes to body count but a travel nurse if she's on
01:54:19.280
a dating app she wasn't on a dating app in each one of those cities and she's looking for a short-term
01:54:24.240
thing that means her body count is ramped up that's assuming she gets with just one guy in that city
01:54:29.840
it could be two it could be three it could be a dozen okay so travel nurse is a major so is that
01:54:34.800
a study travel nurses are more promiscuous well simply by virtue sex with more guys in different
01:54:39.760
cities i don't think there's a study but you're like well hold on let me i'll answer let me answer
01:54:44.320
the question the answer is yes well let me answer let me just answer so i just want to know well
01:54:50.000
simply by virtue if you move to a new geographical region every three months versus someone who's
01:54:56.320
locked in one location who's more pro who's more likely to end up in a long-term relationship
01:55:04.480
somebody that's not traveling okay okay so it's not look you could be a travel nurse and be a virgin
01:55:10.720
but just by virtue of you constantly moving you're probably not going to be able to lock down
01:55:16.800
if you're going from new york and i'm moving over travel nursing like if i took a travel nurse job i
01:55:20.960
don't think i'd be looking for a relationship because i don't know you'd just be fucking i wouldn't say
01:55:25.600
i'll be fucking i'd be working you know we work a lot so my days off when i was a nurse no i'm almost
01:55:32.240
40 years old did you ever go to when i was like in my early 20s i don't care i hate clubs have you been
01:55:37.120
on dating apps nope okay what's your body count i don't actually have a little book in my house
01:55:45.360
where i write it down and i'm like today i had sex with this person and it's my body count i don't
01:55:49.920
know but i can say that when before i'm doing what i'm doing right now i probably could have counted
01:55:56.240
in the last three or four years even being on only fans how many people i've had sex with on
01:56:00.400
one hand okay and i've been monogamous on only fans as well laugh at me
01:56:07.600
um well i'm not i'm not i'm not actually laughing no you weren't this guy behind me was i wanted to
01:56:12.080
i wanted to engage with you a little bit on this she called you out there so i don't know i'm so
01:56:16.720
funny i'm being honest like i'm not lying i'm here to be honest yeah so well i mean good that's that's
01:56:22.240
why i want to engage on this with you if you don't mind so no i absolutely want to talk about it yeah
01:56:26.640
i want to talk about yes i want to talk about change the stigma and everything yeah so brian is
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saying that just by nature of somebody who's in a travel capacity of any kind whether it's male or
01:56:38.000
female and there are studies which back this up but i'm not even sure that you would need them
01:56:43.920
because it kind of just goes to logic that if you're traveling around opportunities come up
01:56:49.360
far more than if you are based in a home and go to a single area for work no there's almost
01:56:55.680
you but you just agreed that logically nurses work three to four days hang on stop stop stop
01:57:01.440
stop you you literally just agreed not more than five minutes ago with brian that it stands to reason
01:57:07.920
that somebody who traveled would have more opportunity for these things than not and now
01:57:12.160
you're changing your answer i changed my mind actually the way it makes sense because when i was
01:57:16.240
a nurse i worked three to four days a week and those three those days that i was off it doesn't
01:57:20.800
matter if i'm in a different city or in my city and if i want to go out and party and hang out and like
01:57:24.800
meet guys doesn't matter if i'm in a different city or in my city it's the same thing yeah but
01:57:29.360
if you're a if you're a person who travels if you're traveling nurse or traveling salesman it
01:57:34.320
wouldn't matter you're going to be introduced to a much wider array for people therefore there's
01:57:39.280
more opportunity for intermingling that's the point have you ever fucked in the hospital never ever
01:57:46.080
i wouldn't actually took a code of ethics as a nurse and we weren't allowed to do specific things
01:57:50.080
and it was very serious laugh about it but i couldn't dress up as a nurse for halloween there's
01:57:55.200
different things you take a code of ethics and you have to actually respect your job in a specific
01:57:59.920
way i didn't take nude photos when i was a nurse i was still on only fans but i just sold specific
01:58:04.400
type of content until i left my job and i respected my profession and i always will
01:58:10.800
okay well i don't think we need to linger too long on the nursing thing but uh you do only fans too correct
01:58:17.920
yeah and i have real estate investment so like i'm an airbnb super host and whatnot
01:58:22.720
can you scoot your mic a little closer um what do you do on of is it solo content pg when i'm in a
01:58:29.040
relationship i do boy girl content okay so it's like if i'm dating someone then i have done boy girl
01:58:38.800
all right i'll use that person and like we can have threesomes together and like i'll collab with
01:58:43.040
like porn star females with whoever guy i'm dating sure but that's pretty much just like okay what
01:58:49.520
i've done uh cheyenne you used to be involved in that life why don't you give us in your pre-show
01:58:56.560
notes you gave us kind of like a little synopsis on your background a little bit if you can
01:59:01.200
unfortunately i think i mentioned this i don't i lost all my notes yeah but so if you can restate
01:59:06.240
kind of your background sure and i didn't know if this was a word that we couldn't use um as
01:59:13.440
like the code of kind of code of conduct in the beginning can we say the p word p-o-r-n i just
01:59:18.160
didn't know if we could say it uh because someone said something about it we just say that okay so we
01:59:24.720
okay i don't work is i don't work adult content okay cool yeah so um i'll just i'll just tell a
01:59:31.280
little bit of of how i grew up so my mother was a madam actually so um and it's pretty rare because
01:59:36.320
she wasn't she's asian you know so usually asians are like you know like goody two shoes but my mom
01:59:40.800
was a rebel for sure um and i grew up in a highly sexualized environment um i started masturbating
01:59:46.960
when i was five years old you know and so um i grew up taking care of my sisters all of our dads are
01:59:52.160
different you know dads were absent and so um i was a dancer i also was in the adult film um and then
02:00:00.720
i also was an escort i had tons of sugar daddies in la new york every state i had a sugar daddy you
02:00:07.600
know so that's um that's i literally like wyoming a lot probably not that one north dakota it's so
02:00:15.920
random no because not the city you said maybe i was exaggerating a bit oh i was exaggerating i'm sorry
02:00:22.240
yes boise no did you have one in boise idaho no i'm from ohio originally though
02:00:29.920
it's close what what do you mean um you grew up in a highly sexualized environment what does that
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mean yeah i'm not sure we want to go there okay yeah but you said okay your mom had a brothel
02:00:43.920
basically she was a madame yes okay yeah okay okay um so i basically had a very escorted you said you
02:00:54.000
escorted sugar daddies in every city yeah like a lot of cities a lot of cities right um and so
02:01:01.360
that's basically how i built my life when i first moved to la six years ago um when i was 20 i was
02:01:06.480
also um fresh out of divorce of a divorce um i got married for five months got a divorce was traumatized
02:01:12.640
moved out here um so and and i wanted to comment on what you guys were saying too yeah like i'll be
02:01:18.000
honest like yeah a lot of girls have a lot of trauma guys do too we all have trauma and and um
02:01:25.040
when we get in relationships you know like both of the traumas just collide you know and i will admit
02:01:30.640
like i've broken up with every one of my boyfriends and i'll admit that and i'm not proud of that it was
02:01:37.920
due to my own trauma and also i couldn't handle what they were putting on me because of my background
02:01:43.600
because i'm still in the healing process and that's where jesus comes in right like like once
02:01:49.760
you surrender he starts to heal you it doesn't happen overnight but that's like where i'm at and
02:01:54.640
that's why i'm single because i'm not healed yet like fully with certain things that god has to change
02:02:00.880
and morph in the character of my heart in order to have a healthy relationship so you um
02:02:05.360
um you did were you in the mainstream adults industry did you you also did of two or did you
02:02:16.720
it's so it's so funny because before of was a thing i knew about it and i made an account but i never
02:02:22.400
posted but then i sold things on snapchat before of wait so did i don't know if you're did you operate
02:02:31.920
as in the as cheyenne matthews no okay i've had a few aliases few aliases yeah do you share those or
02:02:40.960
no um oh wait that's gonna oh god that's gonna sound like i'm like soliciting to so i can search it
02:02:46.960
for it later that's okay i swear i was just curious if you if like there's uh were you pretty popular
02:02:53.120
when you were doing this like well known in the space i guess no comment okay i think you know
02:03:02.240
well i don't know i haven't seen any of your shit but uh but uh okay uh so you used you said you when
02:03:13.680
did you start escorting oh um man 18 okay yeah and were you stripped did you strip at all yes okay
02:03:26.240
and you uh you were like hustling sugar daddies and shit yes what was the hustle did you have some
02:03:34.560
tricks yes marks yes what's the term everything what's the marks tricks tricks johns
02:03:42.560
honestly like i i used i'll say this too i used to have a different vocabulary like i grew up in like a
02:03:51.200
very you know um ghetto environment you uh you said you're half asian half white are you filipina
02:03:57.760
or what's so technically i have korean and japanese native american and european okay yeah so i speak
02:04:03.600
korean fluently too so thank you grandma yeah um yeah anybody in seoul like you said you had some
02:04:10.720
sugar daddies and no no not there i tried but it didn't work out because i was only there for two
02:04:14.960
weeks and it just okay they were robots sure yeah uh okay so uh you escorted yeah when did you stop
02:04:23.120
escorting um last year may 15th of last year okay yeah uh how many clients over the entire course of
02:04:33.120
your escorting career uh did you have whoo i don't know hundreds for sure hundreds yeah in escorting
02:04:42.160
yeah uh and then how many sugar daddies total do you think you had um um you know it's interesting
02:04:49.600
because like i had one for six years and i cut it off with him last year and um it was you know part of
02:04:57.680
it and this is just the human side you know because we're all human like i was very attached
02:05:03.680
to i didn't love him in a romantic way i was attached because of the attention he gave me
02:05:08.560
and the money with it and i didn't grow up with my dad and so definitely the father wound and the
02:05:13.680
mother wound played a part in the way he treated me and so it was really tough to cut it off with some
02:05:18.480
of the sugar daddies because of that you know and um but i did you know and i've replaced that
02:05:23.840
you know with just every time i feel lonely or if i feel like i get triggered because you know we all
02:05:29.440
have triggers we all have triggers we all have trauma you know and if i get lonely i just start
02:05:33.600
to pray or i'll go into like a fast or read scripture and i'm honestly it just fills me it fills that void
02:05:39.600
it fills that loneliness it fills that depression or anxiety that's trying to seep in again because i used
02:05:44.480
to be depressed for years especially when i had my marriage and when i was um i had a lot of relationships
02:05:51.280
as well yeah okay so uh on the uh what's it called i'm curious i'm always curious about yeah opening
02:06:02.720
this up to the rest of the table yeah who here has had a sugar daddy i currently have three you have
02:06:09.680
three i've had i've only had one one what about you never had never had no well what about these the
02:06:16.080
of the of guys no they're like your daddies they're kind of content they're digital sugar
02:06:20.880
not like digital sugar daddy i've been like the sugar mama what about you me too i've just been
02:06:25.120
the sugar mama i've been the sugar mama too you've been the sugar mama yeah for sure yeah for sure
02:06:30.160
what do you mean you said you so you've had you've had one one like actual one yeah okay you've had
02:06:36.160
three you've had sounds like countless yeah have you had any sugar daddies or is this an abstain
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no or um like can we define what sugar daddy is it's like one person giving money to yeah like
02:06:50.480
there's an he's giving you money an allowance a specific amount of money that's like excluding
02:06:55.280
like like only fans type of stuff right that doesn't count or it does count well if you have a whale or
02:07:00.720
something and a whale they're kind of similar they're kind of similar i don't consider whales sugar
02:07:06.960
daddies right they're a little bit similar kind of i mean my sugar daddy was literally overseas
02:07:11.760
is digital allowance like to live your life like pay rent like just pay me five hundred dollars
02:07:16.480
here and there no reason for example like sugar i was a well you know okay you show you guys stop
02:07:27.040
go ahead uh so for example like i was like a twitch streamer and obviously twitch doesn't allow that kind
02:07:32.560
of content like per se um and so it's like are you talking about like people who's donating through twitch
02:07:39.200
as well no like somebody where it's more like you have a direct communication line no and okay
02:07:46.320
i have not nope no sugar daddy we're just scammers what's that scammers yeah most of them are
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yeah i had a guy he sent me a buffalo wild wing check for like five thousand dollars
02:07:58.560
no space yeah yeah i know what you're talking about um wait so coming back coming back to you
02:08:05.680
you said you had one um what what was the arrangement well it was he met me through instagram and he would
02:08:15.520
just send me money and i would kind of like send videos to him and sometimes we would face time and
02:08:21.680
just like i would undress like strip did you ever meet in person nope what kind of privilege like
02:08:27.680
would he would he just send you cash or would he pay for a certain he would send he would just
02:08:33.520
cash at me i'm so glad i'm not dating donated 100 andrew here we go he's chiseled body count low
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hung like a bull moose rich six feet two inches etc invited you over next to his bed fully loaded
02:08:50.960
armor light ar-15 30 round magazine in a safe your reaction oh red flag i'm with it okay um sounds
02:09:02.080
sexy so you're i think he's asking would you proceed with this man who has a ar-15 let's assume he's
02:09:11.360
a responsible and legal gun owner is he hot hell yeah i mean it's six yeah if he's like responsible
02:09:17.440
yeah you said red flag i need to see what he looks like
02:09:22.960
well the assumption in the is he hot like he's hot you would be super attracted to him i would
02:09:28.080
be yeah is the ar-15 a deal breaker is what he's asking i don't really like guns
02:09:35.680
is it a deal breaker no it's not a deal breaker but i don't i'm not comfortable around it
02:09:42.560
i don't know what if what if what if you were super attracted to him he walked in there was a room
02:09:46.960
he just had a wall filled with the ar-15s you just love them just he thought they were great i don't
02:09:52.320
think it's weird why do you need here well i let's let before we go in let's let the girls answer go
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ahead if the ar-15 would make me uncomfortable what's the you're attracted to the guy would it
02:10:04.640
be just assume it's a guy you're attracted to but you go to his place and you see that he has
02:10:08.160
a fire like ar-15 fire i'd like him more okay i'm asexual so nothing's going on regardless you're
02:10:16.240
what i'm asexual i mean that's okay let's just you're romantic wait you're asexual hold on but
02:10:22.720
you're sugar daddies with three sugar daddies we have an agreement it's yeah wait she's got three
02:10:28.640
fucking okay you said a whole wall of guns though like is it one gun or a whole wall like i got okay
02:10:34.960
wait so let's just assume you're romantically interested in him do you lose romantic interest
02:10:39.920
because of the guns yeah okay what about you no i i've had situations where they have guns
02:10:47.440
to protect themselves and it makes me feel safe but i've also seen people with guns that i've dated
02:10:52.240
it was for another reason so um i wouldn't be scared um yeah it would depend on like what's the
02:10:58.320
reason so i wouldn't yeah then that's fine uh yeah it's fine yeah i wouldn't care i think i'd be
02:11:05.040
more turned on not gonna lie yeah i still wouldn't care okay so you and you had an issue with it uh
02:11:12.720
why i think it's kind of weird that you need guns multiple guns let me ask you have one gun for
02:11:19.280
protection but why do you need multiple well let's just say it's one one gun that's not a problem for me
02:11:25.120
okay but my dad has a gun it's not a problem but multiple like you said a room full of guns
02:11:29.120
i just it sounded a little weird yeah right well i mean just to extrapolate okay i'm curious as to
02:11:35.200
why one gun is a deal or not a deal breaker but 1 000 guns would be i think it's what's the distinction
02:11:41.200
there it's a hobby at that point and it's a weird hobby for me why is it weird it's weird
02:11:45.520
why do you need a bunch of guns why do you need to be on only fans uh that has nothing to do with guns
02:11:51.440
am i well i mean well if you're asking in an abstract of why does why does a person need
02:11:56.960
x i don't think only fans girls are like collecting guns i don't know what would that have to do with
02:12:03.200
anything i'm very you're asking you're asking in this abstract of why does a person need to do x he
02:12:08.960
doesn't need to do it what's the problem with him doing it it's just something that i wouldn't
02:12:14.000
i wouldn't feel comfortable around a lot of guns if like i just wouldn't yeah what i mean does that
02:12:20.560
is it telling you something about him do you think that it kind of it pushes some some sort of
02:12:25.600
sort of ideologies or an ideological distinction what's the problem so i've been in abusive
02:12:29.840
relationships in the past and steroids guns things like that maybe playing violent video games were a
02:12:37.760
trait of men that kind of had this like violent tendency in my personal life my experience i'm not
02:12:42.720
saying all men that collect guns so for me personally it would be a red flag if i walked
02:12:47.760
into the house and i saw a lot of guns what if he was a cop
02:12:54.560
i still don't know why a cop needs to have a lot of guns at his house well i mean our i guess my my
02:13:01.120
understanding of your kind of pushback here is that abuse abusive men have guns
02:13:06.320
i think it's a little weird that men would collect a room of guns i i think it is why they have lots
02:13:15.040
of value and they go up in value every year it's a great investment
02:13:20.480
so are birkins you think that's a red flag for women to have a lot of expensive bags
02:13:24.720
no those go down in value every year birkins and like chanel bags basically all fashion items
02:13:31.520
uh do chanel bags go down in value ladies all chanel bags no it's usually actually goes up
02:13:36.880
so i think i'm talking in generalities here so generally fashion items are going to go down in
02:13:42.320
value so all guns guns are always all guns go up in value every year yes i still don't want a bunch
02:13:47.600
of guns in my significant other's house i have a niece and nephew i don't want to walk in to i just
02:13:52.800
wouldn't feel comfortable if he has them all locked up he just has a wall of them i said
02:13:57.360
a gun is okay i don't want a wall of guns i would personally feel uncomfortable i'm allowed
02:14:03.840
to feel uncomfortable around a lot of guns it's weird yeah you're allowed to i'm just wondering
02:14:07.520
what the the reasoning for why you feel that way is like it's just an inanimate object it's just kind
02:14:13.120
of it's it's scary to me you see the movies and videos and it's like always in a violent way you're
02:14:17.280
not like hey i'm as long as the safety's on i just wouldn't like want to be around them accidents
02:14:23.280
happen and i'm just very like i just don't i don't i don't like it it makes me uncomfortable
02:14:27.760
if you're in an if you're in an abusive relationship i have been would you right yeah
02:14:32.560
why is it that you wouldn't recommend the one tool which can equalize force between men and women
02:14:41.280
that a woman doesn't get that a man would have no no the only thing which can equalize force between
02:14:47.600
men and women is a gun okay that's it that's the only force equalizer which is even possible but
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it's not like i own the guns and i have access and keys and i can go in there and use his guns
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yeah but if you were a person who was abused or has been victim of abuse wouldn't you want to own
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a gun no i feel very safe in my living situation where i live and i don't feel like i need a gun there
02:15:12.320
yeah i know but for for generally for abuse victims don't you think they'd want to own a gun
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not all considering it's the only thing that can equalize force between people that have been
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abused need to have a gun to protect themselves not all i'm sorry say that again so not not i
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wouldn't feel like a gun i wouldn't want to have a gun on me i wouldn't want to use a gun that could
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ruin my life just because i was in a situation like i don't i wouldn't how would a gun ruin your life
02:15:37.360
if you if it if it was an argument and it went off in a situation i wouldn't want guns don't go off in
02:15:43.040
arguments what do you mean you can kind of be in an argument and a gun's gonna go off guns don't
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jump off the shelf because you're in an argument no a gun doesn't make me feel safe a gun does not
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make me feel safe against a abusive man is that just because you don't know how to use one
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i just don't want a gun i'm allowed to not want to have a gun in my home yeah you're allowed to i'm
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just i was just curious i just wanted to dive in a little bit because it seems to me it seems to me that
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if you were a female and you were concerned because you had been an abuse victim in the past
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that the one tool which exists which could equalize force between men and women i would think that
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do women want that do you guys like you want i would love to learn how to shoot a gun and use it
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for protection at all times okay anyone else i would smart that's smart by the way that's smart i really
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want to learn like yeah for safety i have mace next to my door you can't bring mace to a gunfight
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though i'm not gonna oh i don't think just saying what if someone comes up you're getting robbed
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yeah like if you're getting robbed you need to protect yourself i don't think there's anything
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wrong with having i don't think i need a gun to protect myself i don't put myself in situations
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where i'm a purse pistol i don't go out late at night i live in new york i'm not like walking around
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coney island late at night with a gun yeah hang on uh hang on real quick i just i just want to make
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sure that i get this right uh over to the gal um i'm sorry uh in the near the center i can't
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i can't remember your your name um far into the table on the the uh the far right one of the
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christian two oh not yeah you yes i'm sorry what's your name again oh yes cheyenne cheyenne okay so i
02:17:23.680
just want to make sure that i have this right but i just got a clip sent over to me that at roughly 52
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minutes in this is what i'm hearing in anyway when you were asked if you were celibate you said yes
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since last night oh no last may not last night right no okay okay i was just i was just making i was
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just making sure yeah okay that's all so anyway yeah back but anyway back to this uh you know on the on
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the gun discussion um so most of you gals you would say that since this is an equalizer a force
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equalizer your preference would be to know how to use one and have one yeah yes the only thing is that
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i heard like an argument that i kind of thought about was that because men are stronger and bigger
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than us they if we have a weapon they can always like wrestle it out of us and use it against us
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and but that doesn't really deter me from wanting to have one just to be more trained and um for that
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purpose i actually started training like bjj um fuck yeah so you know just well well that's the
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stupidest thing i've ever heard why would you think that uh if a guy could wrestle a gun away from you
02:18:44.080
just dead about the deadliest object you can have that he's not going to have a massive advantage over you
02:18:49.040
if you know brazilian jiu-jitsu because if you know anything about the sport um brazilian jiu-jitsu
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is is a great way to maneuver um bigger weights um it's not yeah have you also seen how many men
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with no training go up against women who have brazilian jiu-jitsu training and still overpower them
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easily yeah so in my brazilian jiu-jitsu class like one of her friends she's a purple belt and she was
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attacked by two people and she broke all their legs and it was like on the news so yeah that so
02:19:19.280
that never happened you can say that assuming assuming that that's literally that never happened
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your friend was not attacked by two men you can look at their legs that's absurd okay what is it
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called i'll look it up right now you can look it up like i'm gonna look it up four foot four foot
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eleven girl your four foot eleven year old or four foot eleven inch girlfriend did not break a
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bunch of men's legs when she wasn't eleven though she was jiu-jitsu that's insane i want to see the
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proof there's a video i'll know what i walked back in on but that sounded that sounded ridiculous
02:19:58.160
it is it is absolutely ridiculous stuff that never happened for 500 yeah i got that never
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happened for a thousand literally what's the what's the video called it's not a video it was on the
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news and that was uh that was something that my classmate had said and that was her like close
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friends so oh okay so it was a friend of a friend of yours said that it was on the news did you actually
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see it if i can continue what i'm saying um you can yeah but hang on hang on you can but did you
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yourself actually see it on the news um no no okay so this is uh so a friend of a friend told you this
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yes and if you look up any youtube video of real life brazilian jiu-jitsu fights um they're there for
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you to you can look it up right now um yeah i can't it's not the most effective but i mean wait should
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andrew i got something for this no no hang on hang on i just want to be clear that when you said that
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you had a friend who broke men's legs with brazilian jiu-jitsu who attacked her that that's actually not
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true that what's actually true is that you have a friend who told you she had a friend that happened
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to and it was on the news but you yourself never actually saw it like that i didn't see the news like
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yes no i didn't see the news as i said before so how do you know that any of this is true
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because i'm believing in my friend who that person was a very close friend to her and i'm trusting in
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what she says because i also know the sport and i know how capable um people are it's like
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sola scriptura for the news now huh so okay well i'm gonna look i'm gonna look to be charitable and
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see if there's any woman ever who has been attacked who knows brazilian jiu-jitsu who then went and broke
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the male adversary legs with it but i gotta tell you one motorsports donated 100 as a competitive
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shooter and instructor ladies get a weapon get trained be safe i do actually have a wall of guns
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and my wife sleeps like a baby under the protection i provide well poker one wait really quick question
02:22:09.520
for you so and i don't know if andrew already asked this uh in general who's physically stronger
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men or women men for sure yeah men anyone probably men disagree on this unfortunately i don't know if
02:22:25.920
that's where that conversation was going well brian brian would you say that a news story where a woman
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who was four foot eleven who knew brazilian jiu-jitsu who was attacked by men and broke their legs would be
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something that would be pretty easy to find i'm so glad i'm not dating donated one hundred dollars
02:22:47.280
my wife is 110 pounds five feet one inch i'm 5 11 plus 230 pounds and built i could easily beat the
02:22:56.880
absolute breaks out of her without breaking a sweat she carries a pistol though and would shoot me in the
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chest uh not only that but one of the weaknesses of uh brazilian jiu-jitsu is against multiple
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attackers because it's a ground sport so i don't even understand the logic of this it seems absurd
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to me uh but i'll look uh so far just even in a cursory google search i can't find anything about
02:23:22.400
any women anywhere who have ever been assaulted by multiple men who knew brazilian jiu-jitsu who broke
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their leg wait just letting you know really quickly the story is a 4 11 woman fended off
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two attackers yeah she was a purple belt she was walking in a park and they came and they attacked
02:23:37.200
her and so she being a purple belt um was able to break their bones so so you have my understanding
02:23:44.720
with jiu-jitsu it goes blue purple brown black i think that's the progression in jiu-jitsu
02:23:53.520
i think oh well uh our good friend gustavo here he does jiu-jitsu how long does it gustavo
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how many years does it typically take to get a purple belt
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no how do you say that in spanish okay no oh exposed um cool cool okay seven years okay so
02:24:20.080
spencer as somebody who practices or excuse me gustavo as somebody who practices uh jiu-jitsu
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your uh blue belt correct how long have you been doing it how many years
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five years do you does this story sound plausible to you that a 4 11 purple belt in jiu-jitsu
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fended off two male attackers and broke both their legs is that the story i don't know if it's both
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their legs but she subdued them and broke some bones that's what i heard from my some bones
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multiple bones multiple i think because it occurs to me like i'm not a i'm not a jiu-jitsu expert but
02:24:58.480
for example to break uh to break an arm for example maybe she had them in an arm bar but you can only
02:25:04.000
arm bar one person at a time and that would leave her on her back on the ground exposed to the fists of
02:25:10.720
the second attacker just pummeling the out of her face while she's trying to arm bar this dude
02:25:17.920
so it's the most ridiculous it doesn't sound plausible ever heard it is literally
02:25:24.960
ridiculous and in no way shape or form does it map on to reality at all not even a little bit
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let's not sure yeah yeah we won't we won't linger too long on on the jiu-jitsu thing i missed probably
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most of the firearm discussion it was good i had one question maybe androdi went there but um let's
02:25:43.440
say your house was getting invaded you lived with a boyfriend would you prefer and it's being invaded
02:25:48.960
by three men would you prefer him to defend you with his fists or with a firearm in that scenario like
02:25:54.960
i think that the problem was that the way you said it before before you like walked off was like
02:25:59.200
a wall of guns and i was like that sounds a little bit excessive i didn't say a gun or a firearm
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that i would yeah i have no problem with a gun okay but it was like an excessive amount of guns
02:26:10.480
that's when i said that it sounds a little bit like a red flag for me it's like a little scary
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and a little weird could i just say something because i voted no as well because honestly having
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a full wall full of firearms that's kind of that's a red flag you just because you're overcompensating
02:26:24.800
for something if you have i guess that they like in a way like you're saying you collect guns for a
02:26:32.000
specific reason like i wouldn't know why he has all these guns you know like it's also a type of
02:26:38.080
person like if you're a aggressive person i'd be like why do you need these here we're gonna we're
02:26:42.160
gonna read a couple chats here um john ligand bring back gorlock okay thank you i tried honestly i tried
02:26:49.120
uh you guys should spam allie she's tick tock famous spam allie with uh dm saying yo go back
02:26:58.480
on the whatever podcast i've i've tried i don't think she's about it she'd rather
02:27:03.680
or wait actually and uh never mind um could somebody read this one for me you got a good
02:27:09.680
one of you got good diction you want me to sure okay um i couldn't imagine being an only
02:27:15.600
fan only fans influencers father brother or a partner simps need to wake up and spend their
02:27:21.440
money on something meaningful like a hobby the collective delusional feminist ego is crushing
02:27:26.240
culture what are you going to do once good men aren't around where are the good men
02:27:35.520
not dating women who do pornography well that's true actually but some of them the people in the
02:27:40.480
porn industry that are married and have relationships you don't think they're good men and good women
02:27:44.960
and that they've found i'm not sure but i would argue most men they're bad good good men probably
02:27:51.760
most good men explain jesus christ there's like five conversations going on
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okay okay most good men they're probably number one pick is not to go and date a woman who is
02:28:04.800
currently or in the past did pornographic content i get it oh i get that but i'm saying that you don't
02:28:11.520
think that two people in the adult industry are good people and can find love sure okay sure but
02:28:17.200
i i mean do you do at least acknowledge that simply by virtue of you doing or having done
02:28:23.840
pornographic content there's videos of you guys out there
02:28:26.640
like a lot of men like it's yes i'm not saying you will never be able to find a man but a lot of
02:28:33.840
men are gonna thank you for saying that because they're gonna have issues
02:28:41.600
i think you'll still be able to find men but like it'll be harder in the same way that for example for
02:28:48.000
me yeah me having this simply by virtue of having the podcast yeah closes the door with certain
02:28:52.880
women who might not want to date somebody who has my views or they might not want to date somebody
02:28:57.360
who's just even out there publicly that's true so what if you didn't know but i acknowledge it
02:29:01.760
what if you didn't know a woman had a like closet life before you and she never disclosed that to you
02:29:06.720
would that be like lying because you wouldn't and we're married let's say we're married yes in this
02:29:10.640
listener i'd divorce her immediately you would why instant divorce you have to be up front and
02:29:14.320
honest you need you need you need to disclose that what if she was transgender okay i'm not
02:29:19.040
talking about transgender hold on i said what if she never disclosed wait what if you're i can
02:29:24.400
understand it's a lie and it's like a i get it but what if you were dating somebody and they hit a
02:29:28.240
secret from you like that and you had kids you were in love and this was a great person and she
02:29:33.440
treated you great and she was a great mother to you yeah yeah what would you do let's ask this the
02:29:38.720
other way let's say that you're in love with this woman you absolutely adore her she's great she's
02:29:46.080
been a great wife to you she's been a great mother right and you find out that she lied about the
02:29:51.360
paternity of your kids this is a different question yeah but hang on the logic's going to track for you
02:29:57.440
and i'm going to tie it together for you shortly so why is it do you think that it would be okay for
02:30:02.560
the guy to leave that relationship are you asking me yeah okay about the paternity of a child or their
02:30:10.480
past yeah so yeah so you love the woman okay right she's great she just hid this one thing from you
02:30:16.880
which was the paternity of your kids or kid is that question for me andrew i'm so confused no no
02:30:22.640
that's for her you're asking me what i think that someone else should do or me and yeah i'm asking is
02:30:27.920
it okay for a man to leave then do you think that that's appropriate i think it's okay for anyone to
02:30:33.120
do anything at the point of life if it's not okay for him it's okay i also have friends that have been
02:30:37.120
in that situation that have stayed and i have friends that have stayed so and yeah but but if
02:30:42.880
you're asking brian then why why if you didn't disclose a thing um would you leave then the answer
02:30:49.520
would be entailed in that same one right i get it it's the same thing yeah yeah but a child and
02:30:55.440
someone's past sexually might be a little bit like yes but it's it's hang on it's what a person
02:31:02.480
values that you're hiding that's the problem it's a lie so brian values that you know you're telling
02:31:09.200
the truth about your sexual history and it turned out you were lying about it right that's his value
02:31:14.640
so you would be from your world view it would be totally appropriate for him to leave right
02:31:19.760
i'm saying like it it would be appropriate for him to leave if he wanted to leave if he felt like
02:31:24.560
very like disrespected but i understand that a child is a little bit different than a woman's
02:31:30.480
sexual promiscuously in her past yeah they're different i get it they're different i know
02:31:35.200
every analogy i'll ever bring to you is going to be different from the other thing you're married
02:31:39.200
the reason it's always going to be different from the other thing is because no two things are
02:31:43.200
exactly identical yeah so i'm just giving you a comparison that's it but you're married right
02:31:48.960
not for andrew yeah i'm married okay so how long have you been married for over a decade okay so
02:31:54.720
what if you found out something from like 20 25 years ago that you didn't agree with would you
02:31:59.760
immediately divorce her or would you be like i know this person depends on depends depends on the
02:32:03.840
severity if i found out that she was an only fans girl or something like this before i married her
02:32:09.920
yes that would be an instant divorce so right now instant divorce
02:32:13.120
yeah it would be an instant 25 years before and like before she met you i'm just i'm just asking
02:32:19.680
yes okay the situation yeah and why and but here's the thing why from your world view would
02:32:25.680
that even be problematic i tell guys what it is like i'm i'm i want you to know from the the the
02:32:31.040
first date like hey is this okay for you or if it's not i feel like it's a lie so i get what you're
02:32:35.760
saying it's the personality trait of a person to be able to lie to you about something it's because you
02:32:41.440
don't want your partner to lie to you so whatever it is whatever hard conversation it is let's let's
02:32:45.840
have that conversation from day one and let's figure it out you know yeah yeah no i understand
02:32:51.120
but i'm just i'm all i'm doing is getting pushed back to the idea that if you found out that there
02:32:57.280
was this you know this lie which you can then question the foundations of everything regardless
02:33:03.760
of um you know how you feel about the person now or even how long that person's been great to you
02:33:09.120
why wouldn't she be justified then and ending it's a lie right what if she lied to protect you
02:33:14.000
because she loves you that was well i mean that's not her choice to make is it no it's not her choice
02:33:19.280
but it isn't that nice of her to do a convenient lie to protect me from her past that's awful
02:33:25.600
convenient isn't it how nice of her to lie about her past to protect me that doesn't sound a little
02:33:32.880
absurd to you so you prefer your woman to never have like a no no no answer my question before you
02:33:37.920
answer or ask another one doesn't it sound a little bit convenient to say that she's hiding
02:33:44.400
her past to protect me from it maybe because she loves you it's convenient hiding her sexual history
02:33:52.560
to protect me is because she loves me maybe why would that why would that protect me and not be
02:33:59.120
protecting maybe she thought you were not an open-minded person and she wanted to also like
02:34:03.200
so i could understand myself like my old self like wow this is a great guy and i want to like
02:34:10.000
appease him maybe maybe that and she was like i'm gonna lie about this well that would be her
02:34:14.960
protecting herself not maybe how would it be protecting you okay i get that how like how how
02:34:21.440
would it be protecting the not protecting you maybe she's protecting yourself because you're a great
02:34:25.760
guy and you want to be with you yeah okay maybe i understand that yes okay i said it wrong or like
02:34:30.640
all right moving on moving on moving on uh it does occur to me though that in this scenario that you
02:34:37.440
kind of gave is there something to be said for men prefer uncomfortable truths and women prefer comforting
02:34:46.480
lies or is that kind of the same thing no not totally but i don't prefer like i don't want to be lied to
02:34:58.400
and i don't want to lie to somebody i've been that route when i was younger and more immature and maybe
02:35:02.160
i've lied to a man about who i've been with or situations and right now in my life because i'm older
02:35:07.440
and i realized you know mine's not fun okay well i don't have kids but that was nick not me but
02:35:14.560
all right a couple chats here sorry a couple chats um can you read this one
02:35:21.040
can you read this one brittany what oh i'm christian too sometimes the best ministry is being
02:35:27.200
honest and humble you come off as using faith to avoid confronting your confidence issues
02:35:32.080
pride and regrets you need some blunt friends oh we got another one coming twilliam donated 100
02:35:40.720
good men are everywhere i've had six friends off themselves due to floozy women who abandon their
02:35:46.480
duty because they don't want the work commit to virtue not hedonism j william hey thank you man
02:35:53.280
appreciate your uh tts there thank you for your patronage we have let me pull out the uh oh i'm sorry
02:35:59.200
going yeah screwdriver uh somebody read can you read this sure why not uh brixton great work as
02:36:10.400
always andrew do you think women who've been loose 15 plus bodies can truly repent and be saved alexis
02:36:17.760
are you the girl who went on that miami podcast made out with your friend and talked about eating a
02:36:22.400
guy's dingle okay your your answer that question first and then andrew will respond so you want me to
02:36:27.040
answer this question sure do i think that a woman who's been loose no no no no the question directed
02:36:32.480
at alexis i'm alexis oh i don't know there's ten of you and one of me how about that um he's asking
02:36:39.040
alexis are you the girl yes that was me with my friend most definitely and talked about eating
02:36:44.160
guys single berries yes i eat a guy's ass i do whatever my man wants i'm submissive if he wants
02:36:48.320
me to do this i will do that anything sexually i will do please him that's fucking disgusting
02:36:54.240
who said that that's just like that was nick so yeah so that's 100 i have definitely talked
02:37:00.720
about that i will do i will eat a guy's ass if that's what my man wants there's no lying about
02:37:06.320
i want to go home so you've eaten shit i mean yeah i i've aided my man's ass out for sure that's
02:37:13.280
fucking disgusting okay i mean not to um i'm sure there's a man in this room that has had it done but
02:37:20.160
they just won't admit to it i think that it's actually like um very like being um sexually
02:37:25.360
aware and in tune with uh what feels good in your body and i think that with the right person that you
02:37:29.760
should do that and you know there's nothing wrong with it i think that we're humans that we should
02:37:33.680
experience everything that look let's not linger too long on the fucking right okay salad
02:37:38.640
to answer to the uh yeah i don't know what he he made it seem like if i was like ashamed of that
02:37:43.680
i'm very much open to talk about do the this one yeah i wasn't asking if you were ashamed i just
02:37:51.120
wanted to get clarification um but anyway to answer the question i literally think that serial killers
02:37:57.840
can be redeemed in the eyes of christ i think that uh basically every human being has the capacity for
02:38:04.720
redemption right basically all of them i i the even even even to kind of absurd extents i think
02:38:12.800
i think that people are redeemable all right there you go thank you screwdriver for the question okay
02:38:17.760
i need to try to get through i had a ton of questions that we kind of there were a ton of
02:38:22.000
conversational threads i wanted to touch on we were talking about sugar sugar daddies really quick i think we
02:38:27.200
left off with you um did we yeah i think so so uh you had one sugar daddy what was the i think the
02:38:36.720
question was what was the arrangement there so you would talk to him and he'd just send you money yeah
02:38:41.200
we would facetime and like basically like sext but like never met video no he wanted to be in person
02:38:48.480
what would be like how much would he pay you just to talk i mean he would just send me money like
02:38:54.800
five hundred dollars here five hundred there like he would pay me five hundred dollars for
02:38:58.640
a nude photo back in the day when only fans was like not so well known i was making like
02:39:05.360
so much money off of just like pictures of myself from my like chest down not even showing my face
02:39:12.320
how much from this one one sugar daddy what's the biggest singular payment he ever sent you um two
02:39:19.600
thousand dollars what's in total yeah no i mean like oh what's the total like oh i don't know
02:39:26.720
more than six figures no it was definitely not more than six figures it wasn't even a long estimate
02:39:35.520
more than ten thousand i think it was probably under under ten okay yeah uh no sugar daddies if i
02:39:41.840
recall no sugar daddies you said you currently have three sugar dad or did you have a sugar daddy no i
02:39:46.240
said i was i felt like more like a sugar mama i see okay wait you've you were sugar mama was it with
02:39:51.600
the guy you were dating though like i'd like somebody oh it was the guy you were filming with
02:39:57.600
the the workout guy it's dating so there was another person your mic a little closer to
02:40:03.120
um yeah i was just somebody i was dating it was gonna scoot the mic a little bit an arrangement i guess
02:40:08.720
asking for nick he's looking for a sugar mama nick are you down for a sugar mama i mean are you down
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are you down he's a virgin though so he's a virgin so like you know you can't like try to get at him
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like that but like he'll like send you fee pics and shit oh it was a good amount for him it was like
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i'm actually trying to do an intro here for nick but what if he doesn't qualify don't be dash full
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wait what doesn't qualify he's a he's a giga chad nick's a fucking giga chad yeah but that's not
02:40:44.880
really considered is he not your type um i haven't even looked at him too well he's tall wait oh
02:40:50.720
oh shit gamer he's going tech you know all right um sorry nick i tried my best i tried my best make
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you real um okay you have three three sugar daddies into the mic yeah i currently do have three try to
02:41:12.000
scoot into the table it'll be it'll help you out sorry um so you currently have three is that the
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most you've ever had have you had more before at one time yeah but have you you've had others in
02:41:24.000
the past that are no longer currently your sugar daddy yeah okay and so what is the arrangement
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there you you just talked to them have you met any of them in person one of them i did meet no two of
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them i met in person um but one was a pre-organized arrangement the other one just kind of fell into it
02:41:40.000
okay i don't do anything promiscuous or sexual with these sugar daddies it's all mostly conversation
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probably the most intensive have you kissed any of them once yeah once yeah okay uh how did you meet
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them seeking.com no i don't use any dating apps they just reach out to me in your instagram bio
02:42:04.800
it says nick can you actually pull it up it says god above all yeah i'm a christian i mean i know you
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said you're not really doing anything sexual with these guys but no i'm not doing anything sexual it
02:42:18.720
seems like sugar daddy is a little veering into sex work like do you how do you reconcile sort of being
02:42:27.360
adjacent sex work adjacent maybe is it sex work it might be so i don't know but you said you've got
02:42:34.320
god above all in your instagram bio how do you reconcile that there's really nothing to reconcile
02:42:39.440
because i have god above all because god is everything to me and because i'm a christian
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i'll stand by that the only thing i'll do anything sexual with an arrangement like that i'm not doing
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it for money but you think like a godly christian man would look at a woman who is uh currently has
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like three sugar daddies and be like this is somebody who's walking the right path i mean yeah because
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my boyfriend is christian so he doesn't care your christian boyfriend's cool with you having
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three sugar daddies i'm not sleeping with them what is in the messages that you exchange with them
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is there is there any sexual nature to the conversations you're having if they might say
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oh my gosh i saw your post you look amazing or oh my gosh your butt looks cute that's great he knows
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it he's confident in himself i'm not gonna go out with anybody who's insecure he's gonna know with
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himself okay this is my woman she's coming home with me at the end of the night you guys can send
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her as much money as you want you guys can text or whatever i'm not going to say anything i'm not
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going to be like oh thanks do you want to see this do you want to see that they can say whatever they
02:43:42.640
want okay what um i'm sorry go ahead brian oh yeah so um so what's that nick oh you can pull up the
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insta really quick um you can scroll it up a bit or maybe left small yeah left small um so there it is
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god above all uh i don't know if having sugar daddies contravenes uh your religion but it's
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yeah it does so uh okay if you don't mind if i dive in yeah just curious when you identify as being a
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christian uh what would that mean to you what does that mean to be a christian being a christian means
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that i follow god's statutes and laws and i have a real relationship with him i pray to him i don't
02:44:31.920
just believe he exists i actually am a christian okay so what part of the christian ethic would
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permit men who are sexually attracted to you and are sending you money for sexual gratification
02:44:45.920
which part of this the christian ethic would reconcile that um the part where they're not
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sending me money for sexual gratification they say then why are they sending it they're sending it
02:44:56.560
because they saw a freshly new college grad and they said oh my gosh you're a woman with a good
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head on her shoulders i'm just gonna talk to you every day and i want to send you money and that's
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basically it and there's no sexual talk whatsoever not from mine not at all no i didn't ask from your
02:45:13.200
end i asked if there's sexual talk whatsoever the most sexual talk is that you look great you look good
02:45:18.400
wow you look great in this and then you don't think yeah and so you don't think that they're sending you
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the money and telling you how good you look because they themselves are being sexually gratified by this
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i just want to make sure that that's your actual position on this i mean they're not sending me
02:45:33.760
money because they're being sexually gratified like they don't send me money and say you look great
02:45:38.800
in this outfit i'm going to send you money right now they say oh my gosh i just saw the pictures you
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took you look amazing we have a conversation at the end of the day and then they just might send
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me 500 or 600 or whatever they send you 500 or 600 dollars because they just want to see you do well in
02:45:54.480
life yes life why do you think they picked you specifically could you say that again why do you
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think they picked you specifically to just want to spend their largest on in order to make sure that
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you had a good life why do you think they picked you in particular i'm not gonna lie
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i'm not gonna say my looks don't attribute to it but some men with money do just want to talk every
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day to a woman who's well-dressed well educated they want to go out and they have and they obviously have
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sexual motivations for right if they have sexual motivation that's not my priority well yeah that's
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true it's not you responding in a sexual way but if you are in this sense you are promoting that they
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can live inside of the fantasy of this perceived uh sexual relationship by sending you money and
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i'd like to know which part of the christian ethic that's okay well do you think that jesus would say
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oh yeah have sugar daddies it's nice that these guys tell you how great you look and are sexually
02:47:00.000
attracted to you that's wonderful you think that that's like literally you really think that that's
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within the christian ethic within my relationship with god god knows that my mindset and my spirit
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is right with the fact that if they're sending me money based on my looks only and because i'm
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sending them explicit videos or images then that's wrong and i would feel that within my spirit and i'm
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not judging anybody who does that that's your prerogative but for me personally with my relationship
02:47:24.960
with christ i'm just having a conversation with someone last question then last question for this
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let's assume for a second that you knew that there were men who murdered people with guns
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and you never actually participated in any sort of murder you just made their bullets
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and sent them to them do you think that you're assisting in them participating in murdering
02:47:51.040
making their bullets do i know that they're using it to murder you know that they're using it to
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murder then you just make their bullets are you helping and participating in that murder it's part
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of the process i don't understand is that yes basically yeah yeah yes so how are you not doing the
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exact same thing here in this situation by allowing them to participate in this form of sexual gratification
02:48:22.000
i don't understand that because the same pictures that they compliment me on and the same pictures
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that they travel wild with their fantasies are the same pictures that are on my instagram they're not
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getting anything that no one else isn't getting for free they have a choice i'm not forcing them to
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send money they do it by their own volition yeah but so does the twilliam donated one hundred dollars
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no man with any self-respect would commit to a woman who chooses desire as a job imagine a man
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posting videos of his alcoholic or heart drug behavior would that make you allured do better digins
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yeah so the quite the question just just basically is are you complicit are you complicit just like
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the bullet maker are you being complicit am i being complicit i'm yes are you being party to this
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thing that you know is wrong like for instance if somebody else were to come to you if another if a
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woman came to you and said i'm a christian woman and this guy wants to pay me money specifically
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because he fantasizes about having a sexual relationship would you advise that she do that
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mike davis donated one hundred dollars i have no sympathy for a man who wifes a hoe
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wifing any woman is a mistake all the more so a hoe also brian used this one hundred dollars to
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replace the mic that assita used i see aids particles from her mouth oh my god good lord anyway i'm just
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i'm just asking thank you mike davis yeah what was the question yeah yeah i'm just asking excuse me if
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you're complicit if another christian woman came over and said look i'm i'm trying to walk the path
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of jesus christ d would you and and said i have some men who want to send me money so that they can
02:50:06.240
fap to pictures of mine would you recommend that she do that i would ask her what are you giving
02:50:12.480
these men that they are sending her money and if she just says i'm just saying good morning and i have
02:50:16.560
friends who have done that i have friends who have men grown men with jobs good paying jobs who literally
02:50:22.800
just get satisfaction from sending a young woman money and if this one's like oh i don't send him
02:50:28.720
any pictures i don't do anything sexually exposed like he just sends me money we just have conversation
02:50:33.520
that's fine what is wrong with that why would jesus hate that well in this particular case by your own
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admission you said that these men you think are talking to you because they in some form are engaged in
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fantasy and i never said anything that they're in well no you literally did i asked why are they
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sending you money and you said a big component of that is how you look of how i look don't you think
02:50:57.680
it's a little ridiculous to say that they're sending you money specifically and not ugly women
02:51:03.440
why would you think that that would be my past because because you just have such a charming
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personality or could there be maybe other factors there if they are fapping or doing anything with
02:51:17.360
their own two hands that's fine with them i don't think i'm eating in that sense because my pictures
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are on instagram it's not for something to be paid for it's literally here i'm gonna move it on a little
02:51:28.320
bit here so okay um just just so we have a bit of a sense of the scope of your arrangement um you currently
02:51:36.960
have three right now so what what are they doing they're paying you 500 a couple times a month what
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are they doing a couple times a month here and there if they're just like how's your day going
02:51:48.720
going i say good morning oh i'm about to get my hair done okay i'll send you 300 oh i want to get my
02:51:52.880
nails done okay i'll send you oh here's a question for you now you've got three of them currently you
02:52:00.080
will you send each of them the same text saying oh i'm gonna go get my nails done
02:52:05.600
and are you sort of anticipating that each one of them is going to send you the 300 for your nails
02:52:12.960
has that ever happened wait tell each of them i'm getting my nails done well for example let's say
02:52:17.920
you have a thousand dollar rent payment a month and you have three sugar daddies if one of those
02:52:23.360
sugar daddies sends you a thousand dollars for your rent payment would you then go to the other two
02:52:28.720
and also say well i have a thousand dollar rent payment so in practice you're getting three
02:52:33.280
thousand dollars and you're i would not do that stop the cap okay um so what what's the biggest one
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time transaction that you've received from them um from one probably seven hundred seven hundred dollars
02:52:49.920
yeah and then uh so i'm curious for and we'll do we'll go one by one uh what's the total you've
02:52:56.720
received from all three in one month no no like total over the course of your arrangement
02:53:05.920
in like like in a year probably or like a month however long you've been involved with them that's a
02:53:10.880
long number just just so one that one by one so number one gave me ten thousand number two gave me
02:53:17.360
fifty thousand something like that one probably gave me close to maybe in the scope of like a year
02:53:27.120
wow well does it just money or because they give me jewelry sometimes sure factor factor in the fair
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market factor in the fair market value of the gifts okay i will admit from one i probably got close to
02:53:39.920
like 15k another one i got close to nothing crazy like two bands and then another one
02:53:50.080
probably around like good for you um i love that i don't know like
02:53:57.920
three thousand thirty thirty thousand not thirty thousand oh three thousand like three thousand three
02:54:02.480
thousand five thousand okay life on easy mode um okay so you you said you had quite a few sugar daddies
02:54:12.400
correct is it possible i don't know are you able to scoot into the table or are you locked out yeah
02:54:21.360
okay i'm here okay so you did escorting you've had sugar daddies um you said from the escorting you had
02:54:32.880
over like hundreds of clients over the years yes over the years um what just out of curiosity what would
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you typically uh make from that like with each person yeah for one-time engagement i guess
02:54:51.360
um um i would say on average thousand to 1500 on average some were always higher like 5k some were
02:55:01.440
like a thousand okay yeah what about the sugar daddies so what what's the and it sounded like
02:55:09.520
you had quite a few how many sugar dads do you think you've had dozens hundreds man i i really would
02:55:16.480
say like well i guess sugar daddy in a sense of like just a one-time thing are you including the
02:55:23.840
one-timers too like that i went home with after the club because i've had a lot of those wait you
02:55:29.760
mean after the strip club yes you went home with them wouldn't that be escorting though not sugar daddy
02:55:35.840
okay well i suppose you could have sex with carnal knowledge with the sugar daddies too although it
02:55:42.800
seems to me like a lot of a lot of girls who have sugar daddies actually never end up having sex with
02:55:47.920
them so um so you would would you sleep with your sugar daddies so yeah like the first few years i
02:55:57.520
would sleep with every single one and then it's almost like i started to get convicted slowly because
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i called myself a christian even a few years ago but i was still dancing right so it was it's been a
02:56:09.760
process it didn't happen like overnight um but uh and and i wanted to say that also for her as well
02:56:16.640
like um you know god convicts us all at different times sometimes his hand weighs heavily upon you
02:56:22.800
in a night sometimes it's slowly because he's a gentle loving father that's how god is you know so
02:56:28.400
i would say to bring it back to the question um you know that there's a lot of grace you know that he
02:56:34.400
showed me and i uh there was times where i would even evangelize in the club like when i started
02:56:39.840
reading scripture and praying i know it sounds crazy but you know god works in mysterious ways
02:56:43.920
you know and i've prayed for people in the club sometimes i wouldn't even like dance for them i
02:56:48.640
just sit and talk with them because these men are hurting you know and i was hurting too that's why i was
02:56:53.280
there so um satan feeds us lies to where two people that are hurting can feed off of each other in a very
02:56:58.480
toxic way and so i would just um you know explain the whole my whole ex lifestyle like that you know
02:57:05.200
whether i was doing videos in the club one-on-one um but but yeah so the question um what was the
02:57:20.240
so the question is i'm curious about this kind of the scope of the sugar daddies
02:57:24.480
uh what so let's let me try to be more precise what's the biggest one-time transaction okay that
02:57:35.360
and once like a whole night guy just sends you oh ten thousand dollars without seeing him in person
02:57:42.560
just online let's do both oh wow okay um oh man
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would you consider online people like this is juicy like this is like an interesting question
02:57:54.320
because you know what i'm saying like yeah there's something like is a sugar daddy someone in
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person or virtually they can be both they could be virtually yeah okay 100 well you're only fans i
02:58:03.360
mean only fans is sort of no but when you have a sugar i feel like a sugar daddy is a physical like
02:58:08.240
you're giving him a relationship because in that case then yeah you know i feel like it would be
02:58:12.720
different for a lot of like that is true answer would be a lot different sure um i'll say
02:58:19.520
i don't remember if it was 7 000 or 8 000 one of those one-time transaction and then what's what's
02:58:33.440
close to 100k over the span of a few years close to 100k what about like the number two number three spot
02:58:39.600
50k 20k something around there do you think from all the just the sugar daddies do you think you've
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close my davis donated 100 these hoes cheering on other girls for being hoes is the epitome of
02:59:06.560
misery likes company love that for you you go girl they ain't your friends
02:59:12.480
cheering over our decisions to feel better avt theirs hey mike davis because i have a question
02:59:18.400
about the sugar daddy sugar baby thing wait did you answer the oh like i would say close close
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what about from escorting oh i was actually factoring that in oh okay yeah okay uh and then
02:59:39.120
while you're escorting yes would you disclose to partners that you were escorting no i was lying
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can you ever adjust your mic me oh can you scoot your mic that way i think no just the base
02:59:57.760
scoot it that way did you save that money a lot of it that didn't really scoot it scoot it
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none of us because that's gonna go to my next question but tilt turn it turn the mic towards
03:00:07.680
you your question yeah yeah yeah did you save a lot of that money or blow a lot of that money so
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because i i didn't have any basis because i you know i was very unstable without god in my life and
03:00:19.840
without following god so i didn't have the fruits of the spirit to steward that money so it all went to
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traveling um i often supported my family as well so like i understand when you're saying you know you
03:00:28.560
had to do what you had to do because at the time i i thought that like i believed that i was like you know
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i gotta support my mom my mom was on heroin most of my life as well so i was paying for my sister's
03:00:37.360
schooling um you know my mindset was like i gotta like make sure i'm good my family's good you know
03:00:43.200
and so and i grew up very poor you know so i just felt like i was pressured into it now the skills have
03:00:51.280
been removed and i genuinely see that i just believed the lies of the enemy but god also revealed to me hey
03:00:57.440
that was never your responsibility to take care of them i didn't give that responsibility to and you
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you said you also did uh you were involved in the adult entertainment industry yes um how many and
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i'll open this up to some of the other girls how many scenes did you do okay so i actually didn't do
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that many because i got married shortly after that okay and i met him in the club actually
03:01:19.440
i actually met a lot of my boyfriends in the clubs because i was mostly in the clubs right yeah oh in
03:01:26.160
the strip club okay i thought you meant the club in the club 50 cent okay uh how many scenes have you
03:01:33.920
done with um like 100 with 100 yeah what about you like with different people or all together
03:01:43.520
uh let's say with different people maybe like 10 15 what about what about you maybe 25 okay got it
03:01:53.040
and then moving it over to you you said that you did of in your past correct yeah but it wasn't of it
03:02:01.440
was like patreon but okay same thing yeah and so what kind of content were you were you making um so
03:02:08.320
basically i called it at the time like i was in such a delusion that i was calling it like artistic
03:02:13.680
nudes and i would never actually show like full-blown nudes it'd always be censored um but i would
03:02:20.240
always call it like art and the people around me would say it's art but it's like really just online
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prostitution i think it's art how's that prostitution if i think that photographers
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photography seems like art budur yeah that's what i did was like that's art but i don't think that's
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art i think i was like making money off of like sexual like it's sexual like guys
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no matter it depends on how you look at it no matter how much like we say that it's not the
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bodies are the men they are seeing it sexually and they are definitely doing things not all men look
03:02:54.640
at it like sexually though i think what about gay men you think gay men are looking at women and
03:02:59.120
thinking it's sexual i don't think gay men are subscribing to the only fans no but like everyone
03:03:05.280
looks at it like it's art boudoir is art but i don't know was that the extent of what you were
03:03:11.120
doing like there you never posted it was just patreon were you doing uh any sugar daddy stuff
03:03:17.120
okay did you ever one-on-one send any of these like customs i think they're called would you do
03:03:23.680
customs like can you define customs like it's a you're directly messaging with somebody they put in
03:03:29.280
a specific request maybe what you're putting out there on your patreon is did you send out nude photo
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sets that they requested from you no okay so all the photos that you posted were censored you were
03:03:42.080
nude but it was like censored okay that seems like art i don't think it's art because it's like
03:03:48.560
well you're doing like the ahi you think it's wrong i think we can why why are you laughing over
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here cheyenne and she was the ahi gal i don't know am i even saying you said it how do i say it
03:04:01.760
a hey go okay cheyenne's the hey go queen hey go queen okay um there you go so it's like what like
03:04:10.960
you're dressing up as video game characters type shit cosplaying um not so much it wasn't really
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cosplay like no okay she's talking full nude like photography like i think that's really artistic
03:04:23.360
though like were you just like posing and like showing like you're yeah i was showing my body and
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i do think i think that's i feel like it's the same thing is if your intention is to make a guy come i
03:04:33.920
think it's like whether you're getting gang banged or you're sending him a picture of just your
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ponytail if you know that this man is getting sexual pleasure from it i feel like it's equally
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the same i mean i don't really agree it's different in the way that what she's doing is
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money worth more than your soul two have you actually thought about 10 years into your future
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three if the men you choose are toxic aren't you the problem just hey just i thank you for your
03:05:02.240
tts just as a general rule though we can only do like one question per a lot per tts so if you want
03:05:08.480
to submit other ones you can but just for the sake of time we only we only allow one question per tts
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um is money worth more than your soul have you actually thought that pick the best one let's just
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not the first one maybe the third one if the men you choose are toxic aren't you
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and no let's do fuck it we'll do the first one is money worth more than your soul
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yeah i'm just kidding at least she's honest i don't believe like a soul is a thing you can sell
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or buy like money is in this reality worth a lot and it makes you happy so i think money you believe
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that a soul exists i believe that energy exists i don't know if it's like it's a lot it's i'm not
03:05:49.840
gonna get into a deep theological debate i believe in a lot of things i don't i don't think it has anything
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to do with each other no absolutely not no and lucas says what does it profit a man if he gains
03:06:01.120
the whole world but forfeits his soul and that's the number one verse that convicted me i've also
03:06:05.680
had dreams of hell and i've had dreams of heaven so for me i believe my mom's also went to hell and
03:06:11.200
she came back so like i've just had so many supernatural experiences to where i can only believe
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in the second coming and the forfeiting of soul that she's talking about is eternal burning like
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i don't think people understand like burning like dying by burning just answer the question
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just answer the question please the most um is money worth more than no absolutely not yes
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i agree with you that they kind of like i don't think they correlate really at all i have i do
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think that like money kind of does buy happiness right i agree i mean yeah yeah yeah if i have money
03:06:50.880
i'm happy yeah seriously you know if nobody told you what a soul was you wouldn't really know what a soul
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was wait okay so we were i want to touch on the roster thing really quick did we go around on the
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roster do you have a roster have you had a roster i don't really what do you mean like who i'm like
03:07:08.000
currently entertaining multiple men at the same yeah you already asked me that oh did i did yeah
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i don't know where we left off or no i don't ask only work related std tested like it's not like a
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roster outside of that i don't have a roster i wish scoot your mic to the edge of the table go ahead
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are you talking about currently or in the past both in the past yes but like she said before
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like about conviction i've been convicted about that and i've been more into being with one person
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now but there's no conviction about sugar no i don't right now no um sorry what what is the roster
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dating multiple people at the same time no no i do not um i feel like there's like people you like
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talk to from hinge and tinder and dating apps and stuff but um right now currently no i don't have
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a roster but i have before no i don't okay all right i guess that covers the roster thing we did
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sugar babies all right i'm gonna get into some of the pre-show notes here pretty soon uh question for
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you two are you guys born again virgins what do you mean by that i don't know did you just claim
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the title born again virgin like no like if you mean like physical virgin i don't know i think that
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once you've lost it would you have sex without marriage maybe yeah we're we're celibate we're not
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having sex because that's what about what about you are you a born again virgin i am yeah i wouldn't
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say like i don't say like i'm a born again virgin all the time but like i am yes what the hell does
03:08:49.840
that mean okay yeah so like she said not physically but spiritually um it's interesting because when i
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you know when i was having sex every day because like there was a time where i literally classified
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myself as like a sex addict you know i was doing it every single day for years and um you know and i
03:09:07.360
gave into it like i was like this is what i want to do this is my life i choose you know and of course
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there's moments where because you're giving into the flesh so of course you like it you know your
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flesh likes it we're in the flesh we're human you know and so but now i have peace so when did you
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when did you convert i've dabbled into a whole lot of religions but i always came back to christianity
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but i started to surrender fully like really born again last year in may when i decided you haven't
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had any any sort of sexual activity since that conversion no okay so then when you say born
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again virgin you just mean that you have abstained from sex since you converted yes okay but you wouldn't
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say that that's maps on to the material reality and the fact of the matter correct yes okay gotcha so
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you're you're when you say uh spiritually right you're a virgin this what what what does this
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actually mean to a partner like a potential suitor if you tell a potential suitor i've slept with 50
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plus men but i have found faith in jesus christ while they can take the consideration spiritually that
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it's great that you're christian and have moved down that road shouldn't they still consider your sexual
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history that's where redemption and forgiveness comes in um because honestly like if i and i'm
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sure maybe my future husband does have a promiscuous past just like me you know i will have the same
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grace for him you know i think it comes down to like just grace and forgiving and that's why it's
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important to be with a believer because if yeah i don't yeah hang on hang on i don't disagree with you
03:10:55.520
that you can find somebody who has a messed up past or has done things in their past or that people
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can't be redeemed or that people don't make mistakes and deserve to have grace for it i agree with
03:11:05.200
all of those things yeah but to the question even if you make this conversion to christianity
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shouldn't a partner still consider the body count
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to understand the trauma to better understand um the the traumatic experiences and the way you used
03:11:31.360
to be and where you've came because it's our testimony because god says that we bring people
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to christ and the goodness of god brings people back to him so glad i'm not dating donated one hundred
03:11:41.840
dollars hypothetically you have a son he is pure strong smart successful and morally straight he
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brings home a woman literal mirror image physically emotionally and mentally of yourself your reaction
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yeah that's a great question what is your reaction well so hypothetically i have to read that again he
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has pure strong smart so here i'll just put it in the easiest way possible what he's asking is this
03:12:11.840
if your son who's straight laced as can be who you've raised up brought home a woman that had your
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past would you be a little bit skeptical no no you wouldn't and do you think that that's responsible
03:12:28.400
well if she's considering assuming that she's a christian i i wouldn't judge her at all because
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that's that's judging that's what i call judging someone yeah but do you have your you have judgment
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for a reason god also gave you judgment so that you can make judgment calls so discernment is what
03:12:45.200
you're speaking of discernment is way different i'm not speaking of discernment i'm speaking about
03:12:49.600
judgment not just discernment discernment is how you navigate the path judgment is how you call the path
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so i'm asking you specifically about judgment wouldn't you make if anybody says that there's a
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flag a red flag for a person's past or something like this they're making a judgment they are making
03:13:10.720
a judgment and so the question becomes don't you think that you would make a judgment with your own
03:13:16.480
child now it doesn't mean you couldn't see past it but wouldn't you say wait a second before you do this
03:13:22.640
think about x y and z wouldn't that be a judgment i would definitely want to meet her but i would
03:13:30.320
also have such a deep understanding because i went through the same thing and i know my heart with god
03:13:36.080
and god knows and he judges the intentions of the heart and god says that he's the only person that's
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to judge so i i think we disagree with whether a person actually judges and what that means i think
03:13:47.040
that's where the i have a question yeah uh would you prefer him bring someone else home say that
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she's still with her faith she's still a christian would you prefer that he bring someone else home
03:14:00.080
who's a secularist who's a secular list yeah also so your son comes to you and says i i want to get
03:14:09.680
with this chick who has the same past you do but is not a christian well that's completely different
03:14:16.160
that's a different yeah i know i know it's completely different that's why i'm asking you
03:14:19.600
the question well i'll say this i've dated atheists before you know and and i can't dictate who my son
03:14:28.480
chooses i can educate him i can bring him up in the faith yeah i think you can at 15 or 16 years old
03:14:34.480
oh okay if he's a minor okay i'll use my sister right now my sister's 17 years old and she's speaking
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to a boy right now and i don't know if he's necessarily christian i don't know his heart
03:14:47.600
um but i've just i i just this is how i you know um am a sister to her i'm just like hey you know
03:14:53.200
i know you guys are snapchatting this is her first guy and i've had many boyfriends so i just like come
03:14:58.080
with a open heart and i'm understanding and i'm just like hey if you ever have any questions if he ever
03:15:02.560
asks you to send nude pictures or if you ever feel weird or like he's abusive or just anything just just
03:15:07.360
know you can talk to me because sometimes we got to hit the floor before we realize hey like this isn't good
03:15:12.320
for me you know and i've hit the floor many times yeah but this doesn't answer my question
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it really is kind of doing everything but answering my question would you prefer would you prefer that
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your boy brought home a christian girl yes or isn't that a judgment no how is it not you have to be
03:15:33.840
with like-minded like for example if there's an atheist and an atheist i'm sure they'd want to
03:15:38.080
you know they probably don't want to be with a christian because they're totally what does that have
03:15:41.280
to do with anything i just asked you why would you have the preference that your boy brought home
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a christian girl if that's not a judgment how is that not a judgment that's how could it even be
03:15:52.800
construed as anything other than a judgment you are judging right then and there that even right now
03:15:58.240
before it's even happened you've made the judgment that you're you and why would you prefer this if you
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didn't judge this as being particularly better than the alternative yeah i would say it's wisdom and not
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judgment are you a christian yourself wisdom to judge no no how is that not using wisdom like that
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to judge that love i think it is judgment but like you said earlier judgment no no hang on let me get
03:16:24.560
back to this yes i agree it's wisdom but it's wisdom telling you to use what
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it's like god telling us you know it's better to wait till marriage he does that not to tell us what
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to do but he says i love you so much i don't want you to be with someone and have a soul tie with
03:16:42.320
somebody and be emotionally damaged that wasn't meant for you it's the same making a judgment god's
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making a judgment he's god he can judge all he wants that's right he's god he can judge all he wants but
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i'm asking you if that's the case and he's making a judgment in his wisdom how is it that you can determine
03:17:00.160
that this is something that is done from your wisdom but is not a judgment
03:17:07.520
for me i've just dated so many non-christians it doesn't work and it's a part of the main points
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of the faith is to date another believer you have to be equally yoked right yeah yeah yeah
03:17:20.000
equally i know what that is yeah making a judgment though that's my point
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it's a perfect awkward silence she just said it's a preference and not a judgment i actually that makes
03:17:33.280
more sense i just don't oh it's a it's a it's a preference well why do you prefer that well i think
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it gets it's easier it's more god doesn't want you to constantly fight with someone on beliefs
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if they don't want to believe you that sounds like a judgment it's not a judgment
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mike davis donated 100 money absolutely buys happiness between money and a female i'm choosing
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the bread every day whenever a female exited my life so did a problem unless to procreate the md
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legacy keep me away thank you mike davis thank you mike davis can i ask a question that would be a
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judgment as well those would all be judgments why don't these podcasts ever have men that are in the
03:18:16.880
adult industry on to kind of get their mindset about why they're in the industry one person but like
03:18:24.640
also in the panel of like what we do sometimes like the other perception like do you guys think
03:18:30.160
that those men are not high value men like do you have a perception perception of that like they're
03:18:35.520
not a good person or is it a yeah i think that uh adult film stars who are males are total
03:18:42.160
fucking scumbags i don't have like a answer on that does that does that like does that answer your
03:18:48.160
question that answers my question like do you think i'm being biased do you think i'm being biased with
03:18:54.160
my application a little bit i don't think he's being men who are porn stars less less good or
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something because there's a lot of men that are porn stars and there's a lot of men that are in the
03:19:03.440
adult industry you might not know and would it change your if you didn't know that they did that
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behind closed doors does it change your perception of that person as a person like what if you were
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best friends with somebody you had no idea oh you mean if i didn't know if i didn't have the requisite
03:19:17.920
knowledge what if you never knew and they were your best friend yeah well sure i mean would it change
03:19:22.160
your knowledge then if you had a great neighbor who always brought you eggs and bacon every
03:19:26.960
morning but you found out they were a serial killer so i'd still be a serial killer like this is yeah
03:19:33.040
would that change your would that change your dynamic you thought he was great until you until
03:19:37.440
you found out he wasn't great i'd still be his friend i found out people like i would be i'd be
03:19:42.800
dexter's friend come on now he's hot but this but think about how what how ridiculous what you're
03:19:48.080
asking me is if you didn't have the prerequisite knowledge that somebody was doing something bad
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would you make an error in judgment yes just like if you were friends with a serial killer
03:19:58.400
and didn't know he was a serial killer how you have no prerequisite knowledge for for your judgment
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here right if i found out that my next door neighbor was a serial killer if he was like nice
03:20:11.440
to me and hot and didn't want to kill me i'd still be his friend i'm just saying okay i honestly think
03:20:18.960
it's just because you guys are a lot more interesting entertaining more opinionated to be honest
03:20:24.880
from my i think you're hot but i'm saying like does that make me a bad person like would you not want
03:20:32.400
me around your child like or you think no okay no she's the best babysitter that doesn't make sense
03:20:39.520
um this is not even to be mean you're just asking me i know it's not to be mean i'm just yeah yeah i
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like to learn i'm just trying to i want to explain my why i would come at it this way okay i think
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this is this is my opinion that a person who's willing to devalue themselves and debase themselves in
03:20:59.280
that way is experiencing what i would call pre-less and this is an orthodox christian
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tradition and this means that you're involved in sin to the point where you can't escape it
03:21:11.600
this to me from my purview actually makes you a dangerous human being to have around for
03:21:16.960
prolonged periods of time around people i would care about i would definitely keep you at arm's length
03:21:22.880
that doesn't mean i would be mean to you or cruel to you or say that society should do cruel things
03:21:28.000
to you it just means that from my perspective yes i think arm's length would be the best place
03:21:34.640
what if we repent for our sins and we are able to like you know come back from it
03:21:42.000
repentance is great and that is exactly where i'd like to see everybody okay but that doesn't mean
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if we do that would you still keep us in arms some holy hang on stop that doesn't mean that just
03:21:52.000
because somebody dumps what they call holy water on your head and i'm not talking about that
03:21:57.280
hang on let me finish and then says you're redeemed that that means i'm going to agree with that
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at all and i still might keep you at arm's length for a while because christianity requires theosis
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it's an ongoing process it's not something that's just well i i took the dunk and now i'm ready to go
03:22:15.280
it's an ongoing process so i don't i don't take everybody at their word i agree that just because
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they got dunked that that means that they're living with the lord you know what i mean it seems a little
03:22:26.160
absurd yeah no i get it i don't think it makes you bad people either there's just obviously when you
03:22:31.280
have children certain actions and behaviors that you want to keep them safe from i truly say that like
03:22:38.000
i'm not a mom i'm almost 40 years old so i've been down this path where i tell my friends like
03:22:43.600
don't start only fans unless you're okay with the decisions you make like i'm okay with maybe being
03:22:49.360
single at this point in my life i'm okay with maybe not having kids maybe that's what i wanted when i
03:22:54.480
was 30 but i have to worry about myself at some point in my life and i'm okay with the decisions i
03:22:58.720
make and i'm having a little bit of fun with it you're super rational to at least so far you seem to
03:23:04.880
be rational and you're willing to have a good rational discussion can i ask you a question
03:23:08.720
i've been kind of wondering you said you don't plan on having kids yeah well it's not that i don't plan
03:23:15.840
on having kids if i had kids i would probably i would want to be a stay-at-home mother i wouldn't
03:23:20.800
want to be on only fans i say that yeah no i i understand that yeah i don't even think that that's
03:23:25.680
hypocritical um at all yeah but but my question is is knowing that this will probably take many of
03:23:32.880
those advantages away from having children with with mate selection this kind of thing
03:23:38.080
you do realize that you could end up becoming a genetic dead end well and isn't that isn't that
03:23:44.800
terrifying to think of that you could literally end up becoming a genetic dead end well i mean you
03:23:50.000
shake your head but you're a lot younger you got to remember that i'm not younger there's a no no
03:23:54.960
the gal next to you she was shaking her head and i'm like you're younger younger women always think
03:23:59.600
that there's time there's there's not as much as what if i don't want to have kids though
03:24:04.400
what's that what if i just don't want to have kids what's really funny i don't want to reproduce
03:24:09.920
myself what happens what happens often with young women and yes there's my studies for this if you
03:24:15.440
want to see them but what often happens with younger women is they think they have a prolonged
03:24:19.120
absence of time they don't even think about it what's interesting though is that once they come to
03:24:24.400
the end of their biological clock you start to see their panic set in must have kids must have kids
03:24:31.200
your body will actually tell you to do this it'll give you overwhelming urges to do this
03:24:36.000
what about just adopting cats you know like right now right now it's easy to be like well i don't even
03:24:41.120
want kids but what always happens on tiktok is there's a woman crying in her face going i can't
03:24:46.880
believe i waited this long and now i can't have kids well that sucks for that girl i'm not like her
03:24:51.600
i hope that's true to myself that's what they said that's what they all say right man i'm 33 i'm
03:24:57.600
not as young as you think i don't know what you thought i was how i'm 33 yeah okay well i don't
03:25:03.200
give a the overwhelming urge may still come over you i doubt it but sometimes i feel like in society
03:25:10.080
there needs to be a conversation where like why are women like choosing to like i don't feel sometimes i
03:25:15.760
always tell men like i don't feel emotionally safe and i've dated so many men in my life that i i kind
03:25:21.440
of just want to worry about myself and like we've worked so hard like i was a nurse struggling
03:25:26.400
for years then i was an influencer instagram and this is kind of like that last ditch effort to like
03:25:32.080
make more money to feel comfort and safe in my life and to support myself so it's not something
03:25:36.720
that like sometimes you guys think that we're bad people or that we're doing this because we want
03:25:41.520
to and we're like these like slutty whores it's also to like provide for ourselves because we're not
03:25:47.840
in this relationship or i i did the feminism feminism sold you a lie well i understand what
03:25:55.280
you're saying but i feel like at this point in my life like i got to figure it out for myself you're
03:25:59.760
looking you're looking for peace that's what you're looking for i'm looking that's what it sounds like
03:26:03.920
you're looking for peace and i've actually found peace and peace itself i found peace through money
03:26:08.480
and that's what it is because if nursing paid me it's it sucks but it's society's norm like if
03:26:14.960
nursing i was trying to say i was trying to say this before if nursing paid me 30 40 50k a month
03:26:21.680
i would run back to nursing tomorrow that's my calling and like thousand dollars a month
03:26:26.800
how many nurses make that much none none no that's what that's insanity but i'm saying doctors don't make
03:26:32.960
that a month attendings like but i'm saying on only fans we can make 10 20 30k i'm just saying
03:26:39.440
like the range nursing i was making like less than four thousand dollars a month and it was very
03:26:45.600
stressful so i feel like yeah but wait no you weren't making less than four thousand dollars a
03:26:50.400
month you said you're working 60 hours a week after taxes i'll be no no no don't tell me that's not
03:26:56.160
even possible do you want me to pull up my a thousand dollars right now what i literally
03:27:01.520
send it to you right now i will show you a pay stub of you working 60 hours a week every week
03:27:07.200
and you you pulled in less than four grand i'll send you a thousand bucks right now okay let's
03:27:11.840
talk later it's 13 i'll be honest i worked for 13 years as a neonatal icu nurse it's 13 shifts a
03:27:17.040
month some weeks were after taxes and the union dues and everything eight hundred dollars my biggest
03:27:22.240
paycheck was eleven hundred dollars i did this for years i was struggling living paycheck to paycheck
03:27:26.720
well then that's not 60 hours a week it's what a nurse's shift is i'm telling you yeah
03:27:32.400
no no no no no you said you were 60 hours a week 12 hour shifts but i'm saying yeah but 12 hour shifts
03:27:38.240
you can work one day a week how many days a week were you working i was working three okay so as a
03:27:43.760
nurse i'm just being so 36 hours can i try to educate you as a nurse my day is like i would wake up at
03:27:49.440
five in the morning i'd get to work at seven i work seven to seven i work nights for four years yeah
03:27:54.720
so i work 12 12 one day a week i'd work the um four days a week as a nurse so you work 13 shifts a
03:28:01.600
month so depending on like how you do your shifts but depending on if you work nights or days i didn't
03:28:06.800
say i work 60 hours a week there were 16 hour days because basically like you you wake up at five in
03:28:12.400
the morning i'm not getting home until like god forbid i want to go to the food store after work or i
03:28:16.480
wanted to go to the gym and try to people always say like you could have a family and do all this
03:28:21.360
stuff and i would see nurses oh my god who the hell well actually now i i don't care a little
03:28:28.000
bit because i just want to know this this is so frustrating i come on all these podcasts and i try
03:28:32.480
to explain like as a i'm listening and as a woman it's like explaining why i made this decision and why
03:28:38.800
a lot of other females and women typically make this decision you guys need to listen to this as a
03:28:44.160
society you made okay you made over 30 bucks an hour i'm guessing i would make i've made over
03:28:50.480
a hundred thousand dollars a year with overtime in new york okay okay but i'm asking you've made
03:28:55.760
over 30 bucks an hour graduating college yes i made over i've made over okay for sure yeah okay
03:29:01.040
then it's actually impossible it's actually impossible for you to have only netted in four
03:29:06.080
thousand dollars a month it's not even a possibility i live in new york city and i pay
03:29:09.440
but if you're talking about your shifts you're talking about your 33 taxes 33 on a hundred
03:29:14.960
thousand dollars a year almost done at 40 hours a week that would not be possible union dues i said
03:29:20.720
union dues i said other things that came out not even with union dues shut the do i have to pull up
03:29:25.680
my paycheck to actually be like this is the problem with men just telling women that they don't know
03:29:30.480
what they're talking about you need to just shut up because i did i lived this for 13 years no you
03:29:36.000
shut up you shut up it's so disgusting and the way you're talking to me right now is disgusting
03:29:41.600
literally i did this for 13 money is worthless in the pockets of professional
03:29:46.400
the west is dying because the family is dying men will refuse it's so disrespectful
03:29:51.120
are you ladies ready to be drafted since men have the freedom to leave
03:29:56.880
why don't you guys put your wings away but why can't i just be honest about my job and as what i
03:30:02.400
went through as a woman and you guys well he's honest about it it's really frustrating but you're
03:30:07.440
saying you're not the first time i've had to go on podcast where you fucking men tell me what i've
03:30:12.160
made as a woman what my worth as a woman is i've been a nurse i'm tired of it laugh about it
03:30:19.120
would you treat your daughter like that what would you treat somebody you know like that
03:30:22.800
well the thing is to make fun of her like let's make fun of nurses somebody they gave up their
03:30:28.160
life and went to school and did all this to take care of people he's questioning your math on the
03:30:32.720
my math i lived in new york city i had a budget my money and i lived paycheck to paycheck it's
03:30:38.560
this is kind of a boring conversation anyways it's boring i'm sorry it's boring to you but it's
03:30:42.960
this is honesty and i'm being honest i came on this podcast to be fucking honest why would i sit here
03:30:48.320
in live and i'm being honest okay i'm gonna get my i'm gonna totally get my paychecks i'm gonna
03:30:52.960
pull them up next time i come we'll get them it's a it's a cool we'll do it i'll show you like how
03:30:58.160
much money i made you didn't like the you didn't like the violence you have to say to me you said that
03:31:02.720
this podcast is not about making fun of a woman and that i put words in your mouth but you're
03:31:07.040
using your stream deck and nick is using his that was definitely nick to call her a b-word to laugh at
03:31:13.040
her like how is who called her i didn't call her well you you guys have a prompt that says
03:31:17.760
you're like insisting this is the kind of money i made and i'm like literally telling i would never
03:31:22.160
tell you you told me your wife you would leave her if she did this in her past wait i said okay
03:31:25.840
hey andrew what what uh what i forgot is she what is this tone policing that she's doing is that what
03:31:32.240
it is is that what that's called no she's speaking up for another one okay that's voicing but the thing
03:31:37.040
is the thing is funny is like look i'm not trying to be me i'm just telling you that based on 60 hours a
03:31:42.320
week i didn't say what you said did i say you did you did 16 hour days i didn't say oh my god
03:31:49.040
our weeks irrelevant all right it's irrelevant but like let's argue about it all day let's just move
03:31:54.000
on yeah what news flash if someone's on the verge of tears you should drop it because then it becomes
03:31:59.440
abusive it becomes oh god she you know stop whining you know what i mean have an adult conversation
03:32:05.600
stop being a whiner she's you know what i mean she's an adult she's chilling she's enjoying it
03:32:12.640
i'm so passionate she's actually more of an adult and more honest than you are i'm so passionate
03:32:18.320
about but you notice how you can only inhale insults you can't be an adult without inhaling
03:32:24.320
insults calling someone stupid you called her stupid stick and stone she was on the well of tears
03:32:29.120
being an adult no she was on the well of tears look you can say the brawnaissance donated 100
03:32:35.840
of course she's going to cry oh how sad you had to earn a degree in the greatest country on earth
03:32:42.640
i'm not crying these women lack accountability and men need to go overseas and marry play hole
03:32:48.480
divers two boys it's frustrating trying to talk to men who are like the reason i came up with this is
03:32:55.200
because at the rate i came up with seventy two hundred dollars a month that's why when you said
03:33:00.560
four thousand even with union dues at 60 hours a week it's thirty three percent taxes i was like no
03:33:05.200
fucking way that can't be like why are we arguing about this it's thirty three percent oh my god who
03:33:09.360
the hell can he cares he cares all right stop we're gonna move on we're gonna move on all right
03:33:15.600
actually we're gonna go back we're going back to the born again virgin thing okay because
03:33:22.160
she wanted to uh hijack the conversation to bring it back to her nursing career so we were initially
03:33:30.560
talking about i i was i was overhearing it i wasn't at the table but how if you had a son
03:33:41.840
and he brought home a girl you would have no who had the same background as you with the
03:33:48.400
prostitution and escorting and doing adult content and working in a strip club yeah uh for your own
03:33:56.880
son so long as she's a christian you would not have any sort of encouragement or suggestions towards
03:34:09.040
him to perhaps pursue a different partner and you're saying she's she's a christian right yes
03:34:19.440
no she's born again what okay she's okay uh if you had if your son showed you like oh i'm talking to
03:34:28.240
these two girls it's very early on and he had one girl that had your background christian and another
03:34:36.320
girl who was also christian but didn't have your background and perhaps let's say let's use the
03:34:41.040
uh extreme she's an actual virgin uh would you have a preference there
03:34:48.720
of course i would always encourage my kids to be with a christian because i've won't
03:34:53.200
both christian okay there's there's not a preference you you wouldn't have any no
03:34:59.280
so what if this woman had adult videos of herself online and whether she's christian or not you know
03:35:08.160
that those videos could perhaps have some negative ramifications on her future on your son's future
03:35:14.160
children uh maybe he's a career man he's a businessman being in a relationship or married
03:35:22.400
to such a woman could have negative impacts on his career let's say perhaps he's in politics for
03:35:28.000
example or he's just a businessman even then is if if you don't mind is that a fact that that does
03:35:35.840
affect politicians if their wife has things like that like lewd content on the internet yes the
03:35:41.040
partner that if if you're partnered with somebody who whose reputation is in disrepute if you choose
03:35:48.720
to marry and partner with them and have children with them by extension yes your partner's reputation
03:35:53.760
while it's not your reputation will have some some impact whether i don't know precisely what the
03:36:01.600
impact might be but you deny that it would have no impact i would say if it did impact what job the
03:36:12.480
husband got then it wasn't in his will to have that job from god that's how i look at it whatever is meant
03:36:19.200
for you will come i truly it's simple that's that's what i believe so if your son has career ambitions
03:36:32.000
thank you natalia your son has specific career ambitions but there's he's presented with the choice
03:36:39.600
of two women and partnering with the woman hey guys don't talk back there partnering with
03:36:46.320
god i fucking lost my train of thought partnering with the woman who has this past yeah
03:37:00.800
okay do you okay i'm sorry i lost my fucking train of thought but you see where i'm going with this
03:37:06.880
yeah so like um uh correct me if i'm wrong but uh so are you saying that if there's two people and then
03:37:13.600
one has a past and they're christian and one has a past and they're not which one would i lean more
03:37:17.760
towards if if i would lean more towards somebody yeah i mean it's just i i really don't think in
03:37:27.920
that way and i know the answer you know you would have on that i just kind of sense that like obviously
03:37:33.360
you think you know the less trauma someone has the less that they've done you know explicitly sexually
03:37:39.360
with men that that would be a better option and i see like i see how you would think that and i will
03:37:44.320
admit there is less trauma with that girl for sure okay yeah i get that um i still wouldn't be biased
03:37:50.560
and say well since that girl's a christian too just because she hasn't had a past like me you should
03:37:54.320
pick her i just i wouldn't say that i genuinely wouldn't i would encourage anything i'd be like you
03:38:00.000
know what like you're your own person i'm your mother i've taught you the best i can may the holy
03:38:04.880
spirit lead you you know he can make his own decision may the holy spirit lead yeah your job
03:38:12.640
your job as a mother yeah is to mother your daughter right i just said i've taught him all
03:38:18.640
that he could know he's 18 now he can do make his own decisions what's wrong with that yeah okay yeah
03:38:26.080
they can make their own decisions but you're the guide stone yeah so it's your children are going to
03:38:31.040
call you for advice even past the age of 18 they're going to call for guidance they're going
03:38:35.040
to call for things like this right so if your daughter calls for guidance and says listen mom
03:38:38.960
there's two really handsome guys and they're both really nice to me and they're great one has a
03:38:44.080
christian background was raised by a christian family the other one comes from a broken home and
03:38:48.640
is a secularist yeah which one would you advise that she go with i mean i think any human wants
03:38:56.880
someone who's not as traumatic i mean so obviously someone would be like you know like i want someone
03:39:03.200
who treats me well who's stable all of us want that it's not just a man it's not just a woman all
03:39:07.760
of us want that deep down and so you know we can't cast any judgment on anybody and so it's just it all
03:39:14.880
boils down why can't we can't why can't you cast any judgment on any because it says only god can judge
03:39:19.760
we can't judge okay let's should we get should we get rid of judges in courtrooms can we move on
03:39:24.000
i honestly i want to know the answer should we get rid of judges in courtrooms are they doing
03:39:30.880
satan's work they really don't know just like well wait but they're judging people only god can judge
03:39:38.560
are you judged by your peers judges you know they're that's different that's with crime this is
03:39:46.400
relationships this is free will they're judging relationships it's different to me that's a
03:39:51.120
different category because when you're in the courtroom hey you killed somebody you did this
03:39:55.520
so it's like that makes no sense that's absurd they're still making judgment values so are they
03:39:59.600
doing the work of the devil just because they're a judge would you yeah because they're judging no
03:40:06.080
well then why can't you judge i don't understand why can't you 100 000 plus a year 52 weeks a year
03:40:13.360
minus 33 percent taxes is 67 000 far more than one thousand dollars a week no way around it
03:40:21.920
basic math even an e dollar and a like me can do and send me that one thousand dollars i'm going to
03:40:28.320
come back on and bring that wasn't what it was that wasn't what the agreement was for but yes i came up
03:40:33.920
with something very similar just based on 60 hours but at 100k that actually again that was that was kind
03:40:41.040
of the next word place i was going i didn't i didn't actually understand the math so that's all
03:40:46.240
i wasn't even trying to be mean i just didn't understand that here to bring it back okay so if
03:40:53.200
what if you found out your son brings back two women both christian one of them has her past one of
03:41:00.480
them doesn't she had the the one who has her past has an incurable std would you
03:41:08.000
make a judgment and suggest to your son well despite her being a repented christian woman
03:41:28.240
that's it's it's not a judgment that is a preference but also do you also this raises a
03:41:33.360
question do you think that someone with hiv can't have a healthy relationship do you think they
03:41:38.480
can't have love after hiv so would you advise your son to date a woman who has hiv
03:41:48.960
i mean i wouldn't encourage it no of course not so why is everybody leaving the church andrew why is
03:41:56.240
everybody fleeing from protestantism you don't want your kid to date somebody with hiv just say it's okay to
03:42:02.560
say that i don't want my child to date somebody with hiv instead of making christians look insane
03:42:10.240
and stupid how about just saying the answer which is obvious you don't want your kid to date somebody
03:42:15.920
with hiv i just said that but i would love it if you could please stop with the insults okay i'm not
03:42:22.160
insulting you there was i've been respectful towards you so i deserve that back thank you what did i say
03:42:27.840
that was an insult you keep saying stupid it's not very nice i didn't call you stupid not even what
03:42:33.680
we're saying is stupid that what you said is stupid that doesn't mean you're stupid i'm a smart guy who
03:42:40.320
says stupid things sometimes it doesn't mean i'm stupid now back to this i'm just going to reiterate
03:42:46.480
obviously and clearly can't you just give a single simple direct answer yes you would prefer that your
03:42:51.600
kids uh married christians and yes you would prefer that they didn't have hiv and yes you make
03:42:56.480
judgment calls all the time and that that's okay you're trying to put words in my mouth i said yes
03:43:02.800
i of course i don't prefer my kid to marry someone with hiv of course i don't prefer that i just gave
03:43:07.600
you a clear answer on that so is somebody who's that's a judgment it's not it's a decision this is
03:43:15.760
getting it's like almost semantics a little bit now but it's well well hang on semantics are important
03:43:20.640
oh you're talking about something like judgment i know is that a judgment it's not a judgment it's
03:43:25.760
a decision it's not a judgment but then so why why is that not a judgment to advise your son hey maybe
03:43:33.360
don't date somebody who has hiv versus maybe don't date somebody who was previously involved in
03:43:41.600
prostitution and escorting and adult uh pornographic content why is one a judgment and the other not
03:43:48.960
because it's in the sentence that you said maybe you're just making a decision based on your
03:43:53.520
preference okay it's not a judgment a judgment what i can't i don't think these are undateable with this
03:44:01.200
all right so moving on slightly so okay you're a born again virgin
03:44:05.840
okay but you don't consider yourself a virgin correct physically of course not okay and i think to you too
03:44:12.720
you're not a virgin are you asking me if i'm a virgin or if i count myself as a born again virgin
03:44:19.520
either both i guess yeah i don't count myself as a born again virgin like physically okay but you guys
03:44:26.640
are both uh waiting until marriage yes is that correct yes are you what are you waiting until marriage to
03:44:35.920
have sex i plan on it yes what do you mean you plan on it i plan on waiting until marriage
03:44:41.280
marriage but you're you're not a virgin correct no okay um so i mean that's a hundred percent your
03:44:52.320
choice however my dating recommendation to any men watching uh
03:44:59.360
it that's that's a bad deal that's a raw deal for for men so uh i do not recommend dating women who
03:45:10.240
have previously been promiscule excuse me who have previously been sexually promiscuous
03:45:17.120
that is a judgment because you called i'm fine with but see i'm cool with judgment see what you guys
03:45:25.440
like to point the finger but like women are when it comes to selecting partners you guys are
03:45:30.400
fucking ruthless men ask for very very little from women when it comes to dating but you guys will
03:45:36.480
literally have fucking laundry lists of what you need now just because you guys will say well i don't
03:45:42.400
i'll date an obese person which i think ultimately is cap but the reality is women are incredibly picky
03:45:50.960
women are the much they're they're the more uh sexually selective sex there's an evo psych basis for
03:45:56.560
that there's a biological basis for that so how are you going to tell me about i'm being judgmental
03:46:03.520
but y'all are super judgmental would you date a guy who's shorter than you i have would you okay
03:46:10.160
the guy who you're ultimately going to marry would you would he be shorter than you no you don't care
03:46:16.320
at all i don't how tall is your current guy he's six one he's six one conveniently women always say
03:46:22.640
well i don't really care about height but when you ask them about their past partners and their
03:46:27.120
current partners they're all conveniently six one six two six three six feet he's the first guy
03:46:33.200
i've ever dated that's over six foot i think we care to an extent for sure about height you don't
03:46:38.560
care at all about i do care gotta be honest if i'm completely honest you said shorter you don't
03:46:43.920
care about anything if they're like three four sure why wouldn't you date a dwarf stop why are you
03:46:50.720
laughing that's really rude that you're there are men who are genuinely dwarves why are you laughing
03:46:55.200
that's rude so i'm just giving you guys back what you've been giving me i get it i gave my honest
03:47:04.400
opinion on it why wouldn't you date a dwarf that's a judgment but i would date a dwarf that's really
03:47:11.200
rude of you that you wouldn't date a dwarf i'm like i'm this pious person who i like i am the this paragon
03:47:18.720
of non-judgmentality you would non-judgment you date a dwarf but not only for this girl
03:47:23.280
shit you don't judge i would dwarf is preferable no dwarf is way preferable i don't judge you just
03:47:29.920
said i don't like short women i'm a fan i'm a fan so it says in titus it says in titus for christians
03:47:39.600
to make good judgments upon themselves because if we don't judge at all then we won't make the right
03:47:44.800
decisions and the right discernment they're making a conflation between judging for salvation and
03:47:50.880
making judgments in reality there's a distinction christians we have to make judgments all the time
03:47:57.680
especially about the value of truth we have to so we use a core a mixture of a correspondence theory
03:48:02.720
of truth along with some other theories of truth but things that which corresponds with reality is true
03:48:10.160
truth and so it's it's okay to make judgments it's not okay to make judgments about a person's
03:48:17.840
salvation that's there's the distinction to be made here that's why i don't understand you know like
03:48:23.200
and i hear this all the time you're not allowed to judge because you're that's
03:48:26.880
bullshit i have to make judgments every single day i have to make judgments about whether to turn
03:48:31.360
right or left when i'm on the road you know these are judgment calls so when james says don't judge
03:48:36.800
and there's scripture that says not to judge sinfully because i believe that we need to make
03:48:41.360
judgments to decipher between right and wrong but there's a sinful inclination behind that and i think
03:48:47.680
perhaps i'm not really sure like some of the women are confused like what you mean by judgment like the
03:48:52.720
definitions are not clear for them but um what are your like thoughts on that when the book of james
03:49:00.720
literally says not to judge people in a sinful way because do you believe that we can judge sinfully
03:49:11.360
i don't even understand what the question wait i have a question the question i got a quick question
03:49:16.720
would it be sinful judgment for me to for example when i'm assessing who i would like to date sleep with
03:49:25.680
get into a long-term relationship with mary would it be sinful judgment for me to preclude women
03:49:31.600
who have for example slept with more than 20 men is that sinful judgment i don't think so if it's a
03:49:38.960
preference if you're not looking at that woman and saying gosh she's like oh uh you know whatever
03:49:44.400
like a b-word or like a slander and you weren't thinking i'm better than this woman no like i think
03:49:49.920
it's not a sinful judgment to say i prefer a woman who is more who doesn't have that background can i
03:49:55.600
ask you this question have you slept with more than like 20 women 20 men what 20 women have you
03:50:00.880
ever been with a virgin what have you ever been with a virgin yeah a couple a couple couple couple
03:50:09.360
you're not in a relationship with a virgin i've revealed a couple of details in my body
03:50:13.360
and that's like the closest i've ever gotten to uh uh what's the question well you said oh is it a
03:50:20.960
preference is a judgment if i say i can't sleep with a woman who's been with 20 men but in the bible
03:50:26.320
it says how dare you look at someone's else's you know like a plank in their eye when you have a log in
03:50:31.120
your own i believe we're supposed to make the right judgments based upon that account so by by your logic
03:50:35.920
a man who say for example has slept with 20 women he is therefore obliged to only date women who have
03:50:44.240
also slept with 20 men or more is that the argument that's not the argument he's not obliged to so my
03:50:51.200
position how can he judge them when he's already done well let's say he doesn't judge them but let's
03:50:55.120
just say he has a preference and let's say he slept with a hundred women but he recognizes that there's
03:51:00.960
actually some pretty substantial uh romantic and dating upsides to dating someone who doesn't have
03:51:08.000
a promiscuous past despite his own and i don't think there's anything removing judgment but he
03:51:15.440
despite him having slept with a hundred women perhaps it's a self-reflection on his own behavior
03:51:20.240
he realized promise promiscuous behavior uh is not good it can be a sign of certain past trauma
03:51:26.720
uh it can create trauma the more uh people you've partnered with the more people you've dated
03:51:33.520
i have no objections to somebody man or woman uh although this tends to go more one way than the
03:51:41.200
other i have no objections to a man who slept with 100 women preferring to date a woman with a low body
03:51:45.600
count or virgin whether he can get her or not is another conversation but i don't i think there's
03:51:52.400
nothing wrong with that in the same way that i bet a lot of the women here at this table
03:51:56.800
are not funny at all and find humor in men incredibly attractive perhaps there are women
03:52:03.040
at this table who are not particularly financially well off but find rich men very attractive or perhaps
03:52:09.360
you are attracted to men who are confident but you're lacking confidence so is your position my
03:52:15.840
my view on this is that you need not in order to desire a trait in somebody you need not also possess
03:52:22.960
said trait so i don't object to men the chile 108 donated 100 there is a difference between judgment
03:52:33.920
as in sitting in sentence of someone then there is discernment meaning to choose what is right or wrong
03:52:40.080
for you learn koine greek the understanding is wrong here let me do a couple chats here um
03:52:48.720
we have uh one sec thank you chill 808 appreciate it men we have albert sovereign
03:52:59.040
somebody read this for me do you want to read it me
03:53:01.600
the money the money part is such bs you know men could make the same claim if they were drug dealers
03:53:09.840
i'd be an electron electrician but slinging vent is higher paying male equivalent yes you could
03:53:18.800
warlock the math magician donated 99 dollars 13 shifts a month and four thousand dollars
03:53:25.360
per month implies 25 and 60 cents per hour 33 tax rate implies a gross rate of 39 per hour average pay
03:53:35.360
in ny is 58 dollars per hour your co-workers were making way more than you bro warlock thank you
03:53:43.680
is this her ex-boyfriend is this cheyenne's ex i already asked her she said no you also mentioned
03:53:50.240
this yeah that you dated a spellbinder was that the warlock that was the one okay the warlock we
03:53:56.240
have josh can you read this one what why do i have to keep okay somebody please this is the
03:54:04.400
oregonian messaging i didn't say that right did i again what's going on here i have had a couple of
03:54:12.880
shots how about you have her read it okay this is the oregonian message again oh it's gone
03:54:17.920
shit man why are you asking me again for the cute asian christian i'm down to talk theology with
03:54:23.360
you how about um brian can connect us via instagram we can facetime before i move to flying you out
03:54:31.760
oh we already heard we heard this guy he really wants you i think you need to google him damn so
03:54:37.040
we sent the send the picture slide in her dms do you want to respond all right it's more about
03:54:43.120
he wants she already said her response earlier do you want to respond same exact thing um
03:54:53.120
all right god damn it uh okay someone read this britney your of typer is currently online typing
03:55:10.560
lying to simps who think they're talking to you that's fraud forget repentance you should be charged
03:55:15.680
with a felony and of should be held criminally liable for enabling con artists to defraud people
03:55:23.280
that's hilarious but i think it just says that we're online automatically for the record
03:55:27.600
my shit always says online yeah always like we're not online right now we're not talking
03:55:32.160
case in point brian as i said last show women needs guests laugh and piss on men like
03:55:39.280
me five foot tall we even are human to human i have given up women laugh at the thought of men
03:55:45.520
my height it is a joke to them women are the most judgmental i feel like find some men are get
03:55:51.360
rich you're attracted to who you are like find somebody that works for you it's not like all
03:55:56.480
women i don't know take up surfing dude take up surfing that's all i gotta say man take up surfing
03:56:01.440
or the circus uh okay uh going around the table does body count matter no no i don't give a
03:56:08.640
look it does to a lot of men wait is that the question i'm so confused the mic to the edge of the
03:56:14.800
table does it matter to men if you can just kindly leave it there for me
03:56:20.160
what's the question what i oh i said um it matters to a lot of people these days yes
03:56:26.880
he asked if it matters to you though i i like a guy with a higher body count but there we go
03:56:32.400
that's just you know how about this do you object to men caring about body count um no i think that
03:56:38.880
they have they can have their opinion and if they don't like it whatever yeah welcome wait say that
03:56:51.120
yes oh boy okay uh what about you oh boy for which question are we answering the one i just asked 30
03:57:00.880
seconds ago we all need to hear it again do we object do i object to to men caring about body
03:57:06.560
count if it's in the past and they're born again they're no longer doing that then no i don't what
03:57:11.120
if they have an std from their they previously slept with 100 people but they're born again and they
03:57:16.000
caught an std no i would not date a man with std that's not what i'm asking would you object to a man
03:57:22.800
choosing to not date a promiscuous woman who happens to have an std from a promiscuous past
03:57:28.000
yeah i think it's okay for him to object okay now what if what if instead of that being a physical
03:57:36.000
trauma like an std that she has she has a mental trauma from that yeah he can object to that
03:57:42.800
absolutely okay but so your your argument is well she slept with 100 men but she's there's absolutely
03:57:49.760
been no trauma from it no then then that would be objectionable that's not what i'm saying please
03:57:57.600
kindly speak into the microphone that's not what i'm saying so what do you because you said you object
03:58:02.240
men can have preferences like if they don't want to be with a woman who's been with 200 men or they
03:58:07.680
don't want to be with a woman who has stds they but okay let's say she doesn't have an std she slept
03:58:12.720
with 200 men in her past but she became born again if he prefers not to have that that's okay
03:58:18.480
that literally that's not what you initially answered the question how i think she misunderstood
03:58:25.040
oh you said so long as she's born again and it's in her past it shouldn't matter i'm pretty sure
03:58:31.280
that's how you're asking like if i would like date a man that has a high sorry i misunderstood the
03:58:37.120
question i'm asking you object to a man having that no preference no okay what about you uh no
03:58:42.160
i'm agree with brie like if he has a you know preference and okay i love you yeah i feel like
03:58:47.680
everyone has their own preferences what about you i agree glad we got this from yeah we got to talk
03:58:56.560
i mean to be fair let me push back a little bit on you guys you know we do give disclosures before
03:59:03.040
the show saying if you have something to say you're welcome to jump in you can do a hand raise
03:59:07.040
and when we do get around to the table asking for your guys's opinions you guys will pretty much
03:59:13.840
just be like yes no so while i understand yes it takes longer to get to the side of the table
03:59:19.600
take a little bit of agency and do reflect that you guys have not made an you haven't made an
03:59:25.040
assertive effort to insert yourself into the conversation
03:59:32.000
they were talking about religion i'm not really big on that so right but you can't be like oh they
03:59:36.560
finally got to me it took so long but when we do get to you you guys don't say anything anyways
03:59:42.080
so okay okay um going back to cheyenne really quick you said that you do object to men caring about
03:59:50.880
that well yes because it shows a lack of grace and like um in corinthians it says love is patient
03:59:58.720
it's kind it doesn't keep record of wrongs that's a huge one and um it doesn't envy it doesn't boast
04:00:04.320
it's not jealous like how is that loving what if i'm looking out for my future children what if she
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has uh she has adult videos on the internet and i have reason to believe that knowing how
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pre-teen boys are how teenage boys are my son may very well likely be bullied
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mm-hmm because of this woman's videos that are out there mm-hmm is that a reasonable objection
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well then i guess someone like me wouldn't be your type then that's okay
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that's just well i'm just speaking in general that's what you want i i would say okay
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for me i'm just speaking from my own experience because that's all i can do
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um i've it's never been an issue my past has never been an issue with anyone and i'm like her
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i'm very straight up and that's all i can do you know because i've done like the line that doesn't
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work you can't take it back yeah so it's like i just believe like when god does bring me that man
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he's gonna be able to understand he'll love me how i am he'll love every aspect that's reasonable
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right and nobody's saying that it's not it's totally reasonable to say that um you know you
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you have a past and there's many people who can look past it i totally understand that right have
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one myself and so do many others but the question becomes isn't it okay though for christian
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men who don't have that preference to reject that as a deal breaker yes yes okay
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okay all right let's oh oh right okay uh going around the table what's everybody's body count
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starting with madison why do you have to always ask me first that's the way it goes
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i don't know how about that give us a range how about that 100 over 100 i don't know but you think
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it's around 100 probably over 100 under okay give or take what about you i never counted it's probably
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about like 30 to 50 range i have no idea i can't okay sure i'm not a liar i have no idea okay around
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15 males like 80 females wait please one last time 15 i would say around leave the microphone where it
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is you don't need to keep oh i just speak loud so i always feel like if i speak too close okay i would
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say 15 males like 80 females 80 females okay na oh yeah okay here scoot your mic to the edge of the
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table please we're here no no just go ahead okay i don't know either definitely in the hundreds thank
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you okay thank thank you let's fucking be honest here guys i'm being honest for real i won't answer
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yeah right saw that coming okay a zero zero zero i would say about five or six okay
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five or six okay we're gonna get into some of our pre-show notes here um starting with wait i didn't
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send any oh right okay starting with alexis morgan that's you right in your pre-show notes you said
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that you are conservative and traditional yeah you consider yourself traditional yeah at some points
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okay um i took a review of your twitter and your only well i didn't purchase your only fans but we
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looked at the front page right right uh your twitter and your instagram we're not going to pull up your
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instagram because we'll probably get into some sort of trouble for what's on there but right uh
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is he going for that actually wait hold on it's not that bad i don't think
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going around the table really quick before i get to that do you consider yourself traditional
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i just i'm independent no not politics i don't know what the
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what the fuck is explain what you mean by traditional so they can understand what is that
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i'm gonna defer to andrew on this one but typically when i think of traditional traditional values
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modesty so inquisitor zeal donated 100 andrew do you see how much easier it is to just be a zealot
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yes yes all prostitutes are undateable yes all heretics must burn you don't have to be charitable
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with their individualist nonsense i think you have to meet people exactly where they're at or at least
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try to so let me try to give kind of an overview of what i consider traditional to be so traditionalism
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best described as experiments in history which we know have worked okay that's what it means so when
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we're talking about experiments in history which have already worked we're basically talking inside of
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the united states about a bit of modesty and two-parent household uh these types of things that's what
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we're talking about we're making a reference to traditionalism experiments which we know have worked
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then yes i am a traditionalist you're a uh aren't you an only fans model well i believe in traditionalism
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but yes i am my my parents have been married for 40 years so i believe in that do i believe in it for
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myself maybe not so i guess all right fine untraditional i don't know let's have all the
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girls answer are you traditional do you consider yourself traditional i wish i could be traditional
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but right now where i'm in my career i'm like honest with myself and what my my what i do is
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like an untraditional thing but if i could i would be traditional like yes i came from the same thing
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britney has like my parents are married my grandparents are married i grew up that way i wish i could have
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that but i don't have that i have to get up but going around the table if you all want to answer the
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question yes go on none of them are gonna get the third degree just just the first one that answers
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of course i would say my friends and family would describe me as traditional everybody who knows me
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but i can tell for me personally i'm slowly pulling away from that traditional view oh you're moving away
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from it a little bit i feel like i am a traditional person in my mindset it's just that this generation
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is having three sugar daddies traditional um in the way i operate with them yes actually because
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there's no different really than a cousin giving you money and being like here here's for you it's
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a bit different it's holding it because your cousin giving you money probably isn't engaging in like
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incestuous lust honestly i don't think they lust after me the way you think like you think it's just
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why would why would a guy give you money just nothing in this world is free right nothing is
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but it's not like they're giving me money so you don't think that they have they get to know you
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don't think they have a romantic interest in you most of them if they do keep it to themselves they
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tell me that i look good and that's it there's no i don't i mean look i know there's a lot of sims
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out there i don't i personally don't get it i don't get the whole oh let me just send a girl 500
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dollars without anything involved right i just don't get it yeah that's weird but okay it happens
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there's a lot of sims uh yes i'm traditional yes i am um i would have to say i'm not because i'm not
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like waiting till marriage or anything no okay um i would say i'm traditional
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so so so if if you are the ones who claim that you're traditional if you're if tradition by my
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definition is moving back towards experiments which worked right which of those experiments
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experiments what does that mean can you define social social experiments which worked meaning
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for instance a nuclear family would be an experiment which worked across generational
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household being experiment that worked these are sociological distinctions societal distinctions
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that we can look at and say this society in this place it worked so which of these callbacks are you
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moving towards for these experiments which you think work as would you say like being housewife
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and letting a man take his role and like be the head of the household like okay yes i i do believe in
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that that's you believe in that but what i guess what brian's after here is to determine you can
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believe that thing is true and that it worked as far as a social norm that doesn't mean you yourself
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act in accordance with that or move in when when there's someone in my life and that's what we're
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doing of course well i mean like is eating shit traditional no no i mean that's like but that's the point
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right that's that i'm sorry to be vulgar but i'm the reason i'm driving the point home is that you
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understand what it is that i'm talking about right if we're going to give access to a point of
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these are experiments in society especially american society which worked are you moving towards
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do we believe in it are we practicing in it is what you're saying right i believe in it i'm not doing
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what's traditional but i don't feel like what i'm doing is going to keep me from being able to have
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that traditional experience and life i second that you know i think that they're these podcasters are
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very much so like saying like you're never going to find a man that's going to respect you or you're
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going to have the traditional households like i strongly believe that there's somebody for everyone
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and that i will end up having my let's say unicorn in a sense because you guys always feel that we're
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never going to find the man that a high value i feel like i get approached very much so by high
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value men all the time they see my heart they hear my mind and i just i feel like maybe i'm just the
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i don't know i i just believe i will end up in the traditional you know i don't think after you've had
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after you've had your fun um i feel like there's a man that would prefer that i had experienced and have
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done what i've done because there's a lot of men that don't wouldn't want the girl that has an
04:10:43.280
experience and has gone hasn't gone out there and seen what she likes i feel like a lot of the men that
04:10:47.920
i prefer to be around would find it rather interesting and you know different than the normal a normal
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girl that will bore them that only was with them only and how would they know if they have would have
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chosen him over everything else i think of when a man is with me he's like she's already experienced
04:11:08.400
everything and she's choosing me because that she's already she knows that she knows what she
04:11:14.800
wants she's had it all so this is why this is why these guys who are red pillars exist as red pillars
04:11:21.040
they actually would use a person like you as a perfect example they would say look you believe
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in traditionalism and you think that it works to make society work however when enabled with the
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superpower being able to do whatever the fuck you want with sexuality in order to make a lot of money
04:11:35.680
you will do that instead and then when you can no longer do that suddenly you want to be traditional
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right this is this is their entire framework for the entirety of their narrative encapsulated in a
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single person is that not true no i think um no i mean how is that that's what that is what you're doing
04:12:00.800
right not really but i mean aren't you using your sexuality for your own benefit in order to get a
04:12:08.000
lot of money even though you you yourself believe in traditionalism as being the right way and wish that
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you could be a person who was a traditional woman so aren't you doing exactly what the claim of the red
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bill is which is that you will use your sexuality while you can as a superpower in order to make a ton of
04:12:24.320
money and then later when you can no longer use that then suddenly you'll become a traditional woman
04:12:30.320
i would be a traditional woman right now i would want to be well then what's stopping you nothing is
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stopping me i'm choosing to choose this way because this is what right i'm this is the way
04:12:42.320
there is men that are traditional that would encourage you to do this i mean it's a great
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now there's not any there's a great or traditional would encourage you to do this
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i think we're just saying that men take traditionalism traditional men take that very
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very seriously and they live the entirety of their lives off of that so do you think a tradition like
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a true traditional man would want yeah you i mean i've been approached by them so yeah i maybe not
04:13:11.440
maybe not traditional traditional but that is fine i i find myself like i would want the man who
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understands it who was like you got your money he's like he encourages it he understands it he
04:13:22.160
he obviously like supportive yeah he's supportive there's no reason like obviously i know i feel that
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when a man meets me i know that i'm like i have a good heart i have a good mind when he speaks to me
04:13:32.720
it might just be better than a woman who's traditional who did nothing with her life and just
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sat there waited around for a man to make her her nice house you know what i mean yeah i agree i think
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a man can be a provider but that doesn't mean that he is fully traditional i guess that's not
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who cares about the words of this and whatnot in the end of the day it's like there's somebody that
04:13:51.520
out there for everyone and i think these podcasts are very like you're not gonna find a man there's
04:13:55.600
not somebody out there for everyone there well we're not for everyone correct but we're not i'm
04:14:00.400
not here saying like oh every only fans woman won't find a man like that's who's to say that
04:14:05.040
you know what i mean uh i just the statistics literally well they don't say that but they say
04:14:11.600
close to that they say that yes your chances and likelihood the more promiscuous you are to maintain
04:14:17.760
an interpersonal relationship with a man over a long period of time it's odd because drastically
04:14:24.480
decrease it's odd because i have like both friends that are in the industry or are not in the industry
04:14:30.160
and i feel like the ones that are and they're in the relationship are actually happier because they're
04:14:33.840
honest and they're outgoing they're open-minded and they're speaking about sexual desires that
04:14:38.400
normally a tradition but they're not traditional okay well what is so we're non-traditional okay
04:14:44.320
traditional it's just it's a title right okay this is what would be the experiment that worked where
04:14:49.360
two porn stars in history were getting together in in holy matrimony in order to go and promote
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degeneracy that's of course it's not traditional that's because we love it fangled gadget right this is a
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brand new i mean porn wasn't even legal in the united states for most of it but everybody was
04:15:07.520
watching it have you ever watched porn you couldn't you couldn't watch it because it wasn't even legal
04:15:15.920
have you ever watched porn honestly okay yeah do you think that woman is disgusting and like the
04:15:22.240
actors in in the in the video you're like wow this man is like because there's such a double standard
04:15:27.280
in society where it's like we put this man on a pedestal like wow i wish i could be him like versus
04:15:33.920
the woman but you think equally both of them are just degenerate in that video when you watch it yeah
04:15:40.480
so why do you watch it yeah you're sinning i mean once upon a time i i myself engaged in plenty of
04:15:46.880
degeneracy and still so at least you can be honest stop stop stop let me answer the question right i'm
04:15:54.640
not above uh myself being a person who has been prone to sin though the point of christianity is
04:16:01.920
not perfection not to say that you're a perfect person it's to always be moving towards theosis
04:16:08.960
being better not for you to say that there's an identification uh distinction there's no
04:16:15.840
identification distinction between us because you say you have watched porn yes that's true but you
04:16:23.360
are a porn star who advocates for it right this second so your argument is so absurd it's like
04:16:30.240
saying a person who was a cocaine addict can't tell people it's bad to do cocaine do you understand how
04:16:35.680
absurd that is i think it's a little different because porn is not killing people yes it doesn't
04:16:40.640
stop there and where on earth did you ever get the idea that it wasn't of course it does how
04:16:45.600
is porn killing people it reads to heavier amounts because they're having sex just because they're
04:16:50.320
masturbating so hard that their heart stops human trafficking do you think human trafficking leads
04:16:56.880
to a better or worse life that's not the same thing do you feel like a drug dealer pornography
04:17:01.920
the pornography industry banks on human trafficking in a big way and always has both sides of the border
04:17:08.880
in fact is a massive problem you think i don't know where you got the idea that pornography doesn't lead to
04:17:13.920
higher rates of drug abuse and mental illness because it does does mental illness lead as a
04:17:18.960
contributing factor to people offing themselves because i think it does i think all of these
04:17:23.920
things are contributing factors to higher rates of i think men are the reason which will lead to
04:17:30.240
early demise to be honest i have a real quick think point i feel like there is a lot of like people that
04:17:35.280
like um go through depression and you're saying all these things about porn stars like falling into this
04:17:40.560
like you know bad headspace i feel like a lot of it has to do with how the public is making them feel
04:17:47.360
about it what you guys are saying about these porn stars and what they're doing and they're just because
04:17:53.760
but it's it's crazy because you guys are watching it and you're pleasuring yourselves to what these
04:17:57.920
points are doing so i feel like if it was just that would actually be a better case for me than for you
04:18:03.120
so you're saying it's the stigma which causes this and yet you yourself may engage in this activity
04:18:09.360
that you think is bad for society which i would say in turn means we need more stigma i don't think
04:18:15.360
it's bad for society i think that people learn through it i think it's sex is healthy i think
04:18:19.840
most of the time some people masturbate and their stress comes like what do they learn from it how to
04:18:24.560
eat shit that what to release there's a lot of benefits there's a lot of that's your fetish
04:18:31.040
there's a lot of benefits to porn you know and i feel like the the the bad stuff that they say that
04:18:37.040
comes from porn is because the world is so like to the cameras and to everyone they're like but porn
04:18:42.400
is bad porn is bad but they all wish they could do it but they just know that people are just talking
04:18:45.920
about violence you realize that am i putting a gun to anyone's head no i'm relieving someone's stress
04:18:50.880
sometimes like porn is healthy for like like marriage and relationships and stuff like that
04:18:55.760
it it keeps somebody from cheating they just go to the bathroom i just my whole thing is i don't
04:19:03.520
feel you can move towards outliers and say that there are some people whose relationships have been
04:19:08.160
vastly improved by pornography and i'm not even disputing that i'm sure that there's truth to that
04:19:13.200
somewhere okay but we do we you know we can look at our society pre-pornography right like this is
04:19:20.240
not a thing which uh we have a massive history of this is a new phenomenon in the west of having
04:19:27.680
unfettered access to pornography and overwhelming every single societal and sociological study
04:19:35.120
overwhelmingly shows that not only is it bad for the women who are engaged in it but it's really bad
04:19:41.040
for the men who become addicted to it rewires their brain quite literally but like anything it's like
04:19:47.520
when you're addicted to cigarettes or when you're addicted to vaping or when you're addicted to
04:19:51.760
just doing anything like playstation everyone has a different fix it's it's life it's you know
04:19:57.280
yeah it's true but yeah how do you feel about gamers make distinctions in society between people who
04:20:02.320
might habitually i think it's beautiful it's like we're reproducing though that's what we're supposed
04:20:06.160
to be doing we're not that's the big problem we're not in fact our birth rates are under replacement
04:20:10.320
rate way below replacement rate and the reason that they're under replacement rate is because
04:20:15.200
women will say well i love tradition but i'm gonna wait until all my fertile years are behind me and
04:20:21.520
then i'll get married when they're in their 30s and that's why the average rate of a woman getting
04:20:26.720
married in the united states is 30 years old i think that it has nothing to do with the woman i think
04:20:31.520
although women say that we want to get married when we're in our 30s we do want to find our prince
04:20:36.000
charming to sweep us off our feet but because it's you know these days and how men are perceiving
04:20:41.040
women and um how they want to live their life first it's actually causing this to happen so
04:20:46.320
women are just saying i'm gonna live my life but ideally when when a woman is a child we are we are
04:20:51.440
hoping to find our prince charming from a child so i think that if we just found our prince charming at
04:20:57.200
19 20 we would be married then so we're just this is something that we're just saying because
04:21:01.200
if you don't find your prince charming at 19 do you think that going into an only fans career
04:21:06.480
for money is going to make you more likely to find that prince charming or less like i don't think
04:21:10.560
that anybody's thinking that i think that they're thinking about survival and i think they're putting
04:21:13.600
their family first i mean i know for my decision was i wanted to thinking about survival that's
04:21:18.080
ridiculous for some it could be different for every thousand dollars a month that's ridiculous most
04:21:23.600
people would be more than pleased to have a 30 an hour job and they would be surviving just
04:21:28.800
fine correct but some people something i do this for survival i always know the second a woman says
04:21:34.640
i do this for survival and then we ask what her paycheck is what do you think most people survive on
04:21:41.040
everything is for different people everyone has different reasons why they joined maybe they got
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out of a i can't say i can't speak for why she joined only fan i can't speak for i know why i'm i'm
04:21:50.320
i might have all joined it for the same reason because you wanted the money okay and that is fine but
04:21:54.880
maybe some didn't have the parents to tell them hey i mean what do you mean you don't know the
04:21:59.520
reasons then you all know the reasons and it's all i'm saying is there's no that's why there's
04:22:04.400
everyone has different reasons that why they joined and they don't i think as long reason they all do it
04:22:10.160
for money okay and in which which money causes financial freedom i will say my financial freedom
04:22:16.240
has led to my family in cuba having acs like we all have houses like i've done good things with my
04:22:21.280
money i don't think that the girls that are doing that all you had to do in order to get
04:22:24.640
that was prostitute yourself do you think that was a good exchange does your dad say thanks for the ac
04:22:29.440
i'm glad that you prostituted yourself for my ac honestly does your dad say thank you for
04:22:34.720
prostituting yourself so i have air conditioning well that's not that's not spoken about but you
04:22:40.400
could because because born is so it's not spoken about it's not it's not prostitution i mean i
04:22:46.800
you guys in the end of the day it's not in the end of the day i know everyone is saying whatever
04:22:51.680
about porn but i know that it arouses you even though you don't say it i know i know you have
04:22:57.440
seen it at one point in your life so i'm just my whole thing is like just i feel like we shouldn't
04:23:02.640
really stop just trying to put only fans and porn stars down because that is why so so here's the
04:23:08.720
thing it's a good thing i'm not the sum total of just my biology and i have higher reason in that though
04:23:13.440
i can agree that pornography could arouse me there's no doubt that that's true i also had
04:23:18.320
this great thing called the choice to not view it even knowing that it's true so whether it arouses me
04:23:23.360
or not beside the point i don't think that if put to the question if i asked your old man hey all she
04:23:31.040
had to do was prostitute herself for your ac that he would say good on her do you honestly think he'd say
04:23:36.400
that who is it harming it would he say that my dad doesn't give a fuck but he also loves me he just
04:23:46.320
wishes that it's unconditional love whether your child is a killer or that you're gonna love them
04:23:51.040
no matter what you understand that's their decision love i'm not talking about love or whether or not
04:23:56.560
your father loves you i'm sure he loves you very much you're his daughter right i'm not saying anything
04:24:00.640
about whether or not he loves you or cares but if that was the only alternative that's a woman had i'm
04:24:05.280
not saying that that was she makes a lot of money can buy you ac if she prostitutes herself would he be
04:24:10.320
behind that i'm not saying that that's what was my decision or anyone but everyone had different
04:24:16.240
reasons maybe that they were doing something may i've heard of different okay you don't know as
04:24:21.040
many like porn stars and creators as i do i've heard and i've listened to people behind closed doors
04:24:26.240
of why they join and you know some of these people are the nicest people that i've met i will say
04:24:30.880
like i just think you know any of them who have motivation other than money for why they join
04:24:37.120
money is the reason this world is moving money is the reason why there's being
04:24:41.840
men aren't interested in dating women who act like men men go overseas because western women are toxic
04:24:48.160
and act like the men they want to be with we want femininity and you're out perfect except be a
04:24:53.920
masculine man provide for the woman then take her away like that's just simple it's it's not it's not
04:25:00.400
so complicated it's like in the end i just all i'm saying is that i feel like you know these podcasts
04:25:06.480
are always trying to say like that we're not going to find a a high value man the same thing we're just
04:25:11.920
repeating and and i feel like it's bringing down these only fans and porn stars and it's making them
04:25:17.520
more depressed because it's just putting things in other and other men's head like oh that's not a good
04:25:22.080
woman and honestly some of my porn star friends are just they they they care more for me than just
04:25:27.680
like my non-porn star friends like i think that there's some of the nicest open-minded individuals
04:25:32.320
you know so i just feel like we should stop bashing people reconciling this when people hear this right
04:25:37.200
when they're trying to reconcile it in their brain right they're hearing this i do this because i'm a
04:25:43.280
strong empowered woman and it makes me a lot of money and then when pressed on it the very the
04:25:49.440
second they're pressed on it it's no it's because i have a poor poor family in cuba it's like no but
04:25:54.400
aside of that what if what if they found a passion let me finish let me finish i'm almost done you're
04:25:59.600
not doing it because of the poor family in cuba a side effect of you doing it maybe that you can buy ac
04:26:05.520
for a poor family in cuba but your motivation is purely self-interest let's not kid ourselves it's
04:26:12.000
purely self-interest or you wouldn't do it right my last comment is what if i found passion in it what if
04:26:17.680
i have tried different jobs i could tell you like four or five different jobs that you'd be like
04:26:20.800
oh wow i used to code which is why i used to code i used to code i used the life insurance
04:26:25.040
and health insurance agent for any reason other than money and the answer was and that's fine but
04:26:28.560
for some reason right now i have i can retire if i wanted to but i will say i will find i i will kind
04:26:35.360
of find like something's missing like i find the thrill of like creating content like because
04:26:39.760
in the end of the day it's not just like oh we're getting on set and we're doing like a only fans
04:26:43.520
video no it requires marketing it's it requires creativity there's a lot to it you know because
04:26:48.480
if it was just that easy to do it for free that what would you do it for free i used to do it for
04:26:54.480
free just influencing on instagram will we do anything for literally we have 24 hours in the
04:26:59.680
day money just do it would you would you do this big sass energy donated 100 dollars imagine eating
04:27:07.120
dingleberries on video and thinking you have a standing to provide a substantive argument on
04:27:12.320
morality you said that you have a passion for what you do does that include the ass eating
04:27:17.280
um well that's like just like like because you said you have a passion for it right like what if
04:27:20.880
you have a passion well like is that no i have right right no i have a passion for just like i i
04:27:27.360
enjoy the creativity for ass eating just say it it's cool well yeah that's outside of the job i do
04:27:32.560
that in my personal life i love that i good i have always found myself like a more sexual person i do i
04:27:37.760
i am proud i do feel like this job has made me more open to like cooking up with girls prior to
04:27:43.600
only fans i was too shy to tell a girl hey i want to eat your pussy right sorry for the vulgar language
04:27:48.240
but now i feel like i've had a lot of sexual experiences i'm happy um i'm making a lot of
04:27:52.640
money from it not saying that that's the only thing i feel like only fans videos is five percent
04:27:56.640
of what we do and 95 comes down to marketing and showing up and thinking and brain blasting there's
04:28:01.920
there's just so much money because that leads to more money that's why you market it and do all
04:28:06.400
that would you do it for free would you do this podcast for free i'm doing it right now for free
04:28:14.000
like you're getting something out of it clearly like you wouldn't just i mean listen okay this i
04:28:18.080
have one less i have one last comment and i will say even though we don't all see it a lot of these
04:28:24.000
podcasts are thriving because of only fans models sitting at these tables so let's just appreciate this
04:28:29.360
okay the ass eater should go back to eating ass so she can shut her suck hole as a fellow hispanic
04:28:35.520
i know your father would call you a puta and you are an embarrassment to her old man no that's not
04:28:41.520
how they feel i'm sorry i didn't mean this is fun but she made a good point though about your podcast
04:28:48.880
would be boring if we weren't on it it's only fans creators if only fans creators talk about christianity
04:28:54.560
all night like honestly like all right so in the end of the day a lot of these podcasts are thriving
04:29:00.160
because you guys are essentially having a back and forth with what's right and what's wrong if we
04:29:05.040
were not only fans creators we wouldn't be having this conversation and the panel would kind of be
04:29:08.960
boring actually to be honest i mean i think that some of our most interesting and viral moments
04:29:16.880
came from debates with women who were not doing only fans right but they were talking about not
04:29:21.840
doing only fans no and well listen if we can talk about the andrew tate or just like all the other
04:29:27.920
podcasts is that you know talk a lot about only fans and what these porn stars are doing a lot of
04:29:32.560
the money's circling around because of what's going on let's not you're not going to admit it but you
04:29:37.120
know that at the end of the day what's going on i prostitution if it was the bible the bravo like
04:29:42.560
it's the same thing it's been around forever why is it why is it still around at this era like why is it
04:29:48.000
still here if it was truthfully like if there were women who were just like left-leaning who just
04:29:54.080
wanted to come on and debate like about what politics culture worship even dating but you
04:29:58.880
seemed like you were bored when they were talking about god though yeah you were yeah so so then
04:30:03.760
again so so please let me know when you do even tell us no disrespect i'm not even meaning i actually
04:30:10.240
thought the the debates i mean but they were still comparing themselves to prostitution and stuff this
04:30:16.400
this panel would be quiet if we didn't have something to compare to so in the end of the
04:30:20.400
day i think that we should appreciate disagree okay so let me know when hold on let me know when you
04:30:25.280
have four episodes that where there's not one only fans or porn star creating and there's not one
04:30:29.280
topic that has to do with anything of prostitution you do the booking for me get me like woke leftist
04:30:34.240
but it would be a boring panel because in the end of the day this is what's going on in 2024 and
04:30:38.000
it's interesting honestly true i've said it multiple times i actually don't like the
04:30:42.160
porn bad conversation i think it's boring actually because it's like we've had it so
04:30:46.480
many times actually the much more interesting conversations would be had with like woke sjw
04:30:52.560
liberals who aren't involved in sex work and we can still have discussions on body count because
04:30:58.080
they're probably promiscuous anyways uh we could hit all those topics and honestly i'm more interested
04:31:03.360
in uh you ask the same questions like let's say i was a politician and i came on your show would
04:31:07.200
you ask me about my body count like you would ask we always ask the body count question i'm just
04:31:10.400
asking you would ask but that's such a 2024 question that's going around the word body count
04:31:15.520
is just so used on like these like instagram and it's used to me i mean okay let's let's just come
04:31:22.640
down to it i mean this in the like most respectful way in the end of the day you probably fund more to
04:31:27.040
having girls like us on your panel because they're very much interested in this and because we're hot
04:31:31.120
good-looking girls and let's be realistic i wouldn't be here because if it didn't provide any
04:31:35.520
financial benefit correct this is like such a kind of dull meta conversation about the show but
04:31:41.520
i would actually argue i mean if you're talking on the financial aspect what when andrew was having
04:31:46.160
his back and forth with uh with these two over here uh what yeah hold on just let me check the
04:31:55.360
instagram oh cheyenne yeah of course with cheyenne oh my god number five and claire yeah you know
04:32:04.240
oh my god they don't remember their names that's what i mean like if if we're talking about oh well
04:32:09.200
you wouldn't make as much money actually like the majority of the super chats came in when he was
04:32:14.000
debating them so but what were they what were they previously before yeah but we weren't debating about
04:32:19.920
what they were previously we were okay this meta conversation is like because you know that i'm
04:32:24.480
getting somewhere and then no you're not you're actually not no i know well actually your point
04:32:28.880
just got just got wrecked because we were debating theology i didn't ask them any of those questions
04:32:34.800
about their sexual history at all it wasn't even of concern to me we were just debating theology
04:32:39.840
checkmate but you're still part of whatever take the l i'm not taking the l i got the w
04:32:47.920
listen but it's good at least i'm enforcing positivity because i do feel like in the end of
04:32:51.520
the day you're gonna jerk off in the next five years correct to porn we'll give you all a free
04:32:56.160
subscription don't say that face come on i will say listen most of the time that i've gone on to
04:33:01.200
these podcasts andrew are those menthols can i can you give me a cigarette bro i need i need to
04:33:07.200
fucking pass it through there pass it through this year cowboy killing marlboro reds on me yummy
04:33:12.400
all right can i just ask a question to the ladies yes um i was just wondering like you guys are
04:33:18.880
saying you're doing it for the money right well money and different reasons correct i actually
04:33:22.800
have fun like doing it but yeah money um and then i think you said that you would actually prefer not
04:33:29.040
to be doing it so recently like i and originally i preferred to do it for money but i'm actually like
04:33:35.760
enjoying it a little bit like i'm enjoying like exploring my sexuality and kind of like having sex
04:33:40.960
on my own terms and it's safe because i've been in situations where i've had unsafe sex like where i
04:33:46.320
thought maybe i was with a partner or like just casually having sex with somebody and we weren't
04:33:50.480
getting std tested all the time and there were situations in my life where i was like oh my god
04:33:55.040
you're being a jerk like i'm i'm being loyal to you so this situation i kind of feel like i own my
04:33:59.920
sexuality i own who i'm sleeping with we're getting tested we're showing up and we're making some money
04:34:04.640
from it and i'm not sleeping with just anybody and it's kind of like in a weird way an empowering
04:34:10.480
situation maybe it's from my abusive past with men where i feel like i'm in control of what i'm doing
04:34:16.320
and i'm having fun and a lot of people want to can judge that and i completely understand people
04:34:20.880
judging my life for the three of you if you guys found a man that like could financially like you
04:34:26.720
know be stable and could take care of you i wouldn't no i would not i would at the end of the day what
04:34:32.080
if he'd be joining walk away from me like exactly however i would not i also wouldn't have sex then
04:34:38.080
like i would just do my own kind of like like because i made a lot of money just selling extra like it
04:34:42.640
depends on the type of content you're always able to like be a shape shifter on there like
04:34:46.800
last year i was in a relationship with somebody for eight months i didn't make any content it was solo
04:34:51.200
or it was just photos and different things me my income took a little bit of a hit from it but i was
04:34:55.360
okay because i made good financial decisions so like it depends on who i'm dating and what they're
04:34:59.520
comfortable with and i would have that conversation with him what do you guys think about this i don't
04:35:03.200
think uh men should pay for first dates if the woman does only fans how about that they won't
04:35:09.120
know until after they date us a date with you should probably disclose the fact that you know
04:35:13.120
we we'll go on the date and then during the date they'll ask us what we do and then we'll tell them
04:35:17.840
i just had that happen actually yeah what so what if he finds out and he's like he found out 30 minutes
04:35:22.240
i would tell him that i had done porn and then still paid for my date so i'm sure it happens
04:35:27.600
men absolutely just because there's a uh competitive pressure on men so despite women totally uh
04:35:34.320
uh sometimes hold on let me just finish despite a lot of women totally abandoning their traditional
04:35:41.840
roles in the courtship process they still expect and ultimately primarily because of simpson men not
04:35:48.480
having a backbone on this still ultimately ends up receiving traditional treatment from men so you
04:35:54.080
could be a porn star who just fucked five dudes yesterday and a guy's still gonna go ahead and pay
04:35:58.800
for your dinner and treat you like a princess but like i i don't expect that treatment i usually
04:36:04.320
offer to pay for half of the meal good for you and then they usually end up just paying for it anyway
04:36:08.720
which is great on them but i actually always ask if they want to split it so can i ask but y'all
04:36:15.520
y'all are tradition y'all are not traditional women but you want men to be traditional that's i never
04:36:20.160
said that i just want to ask you out yeah you do you ask guys i want to have fun a lot why not yeah
04:36:27.920
do you hey would you like to go out to dinner yeah like yeah but like let's say generally
04:36:32.240
i'll split the bill with you i wouldn't say like oh wow he didn't offer to pay the bill because i
04:36:36.240
asked can you just get your mic that way generally speaking though women are not taking the initiative
04:36:41.120
like that i would i was interested what if we just say we'll split the bill this way huh what if we just
04:36:46.880
say we'll split the bill you'd prefer a guy to pay for you though of course of course who the hell
04:36:50.800
wouldn't but my position like i'll always say do you want to split this bill would you prefer a woman
04:36:55.680
to pay for the day ever yeah it's better for a woman wait wait you you don't always he said it's
04:37:00.240
better for um i feel like i do just because the man expects to and i just want to show him that
04:37:05.120
like my intention is not just to use him for you know just for to pay the meal just to show that
04:37:11.840
like i'm interested in like paying for everything so that's why i say i would there's no question
04:37:15.440
about it if there's a hesitation like i would just do it most of the time like i i just have yeah
04:37:19.760
it's better for the woman sims to be honest she should pay for that oh goodness we're not
04:37:23.520
going to get into that how about it's just like 50 50 whatever goes every situation is different
04:37:28.160
different things for different folks who know what you're like pay in in my purview it's better
04:37:33.840
if the woman simps for you because then she's actually really she's actually into you like
04:37:39.760
super into you right i've been a sugar i've we've both been in a situation yeah but it's also my
04:37:46.000
position that i would i would pay for the date but like if she's like it depends how she goes about
04:37:51.920
it if she's like trying to assert herself and try to be like dominant in the situation then no
04:37:58.320
right but if she's like i like you so much i'm going to be a simp and almost be your slave oh he's
04:38:04.480
a dom sign me up yeah that's that's where it goes where i told you that i i have participated in that
04:38:10.960
before there you i still want to lead though but you can be a simp you like i mean what would you let
04:38:15.840
a woman you want a woman to lead you around like what's that have you ever let a woman pay for the
04:38:20.480
first date one time okay one time yeah she got me a burrito did you sit with her no no we didn't
04:38:28.240
we didn't hook up she was waiting it's probably because you let her pay for the first date no she's
04:38:33.680
she she was waiting for marriage and i told her i told her i 100 respect that but i'm
04:38:38.240
i'm i don't want that okay this is a great topic of conversation then but okay so let's say a woman
04:38:45.280
said i'm waiting for marriage you would absolutely not date her but you have a whole podcast about
04:38:49.440
kind of like i don't really make claims that i'm super traditional in some okay you're not in some
04:38:55.600
aspects i am but uh i don't get that vibe after the podcast i kind of feel like you're open-minded a
04:39:01.280
little bit sure not like other yeah i don't i'm not saying i'm not i never sit here and say i'm a
04:39:06.640
super traditional guy uh wait so the question was i feel like okay because like would you what
04:39:11.360
would you be able to date a woman that's telling you i'm i'm waiting until marriage i'll answer it
04:39:15.600
and we have donated 100 women need to listen to men who challenge them not the ones who tell them
04:39:22.880
whatever they want to hear to get laid wake up men have standards boys have desire andrew is a father
04:39:30.800
figure for culture god okay uh maybe she would have to be she'd have to be exceptional uh and
04:39:42.160
for me to wait until marriage she'd have to be exceptional and like insanely out of my league
04:39:46.080
but then i would question why would a woman out of my league choose me also because you have to answer
04:39:53.120
your so your question you bring up something interesting you ask is aren't you the perpetuator
04:40:01.120
of this situation basically a whore maker yourself right this is the this is the big question uh aren't
04:40:07.920
you by participating in having sex before marriage actually making more women like us who can't find
04:40:14.480
men who refuse to be with women who won't you know wait till marriage essentially this is what your
04:40:21.360
point is right i actually like i do agree when i hear people say like you should wait till you're
04:40:26.880
married to have sex because you don't know any better so if i never had sex before and he was my
04:40:31.760
first partner and we had sex it would be the best sex of my life and i probably wouldn't want to go
04:40:36.240
out and fuck anyone else yes i'm not not only that but think about this that's not reality anymore
04:40:42.080
in society and it just so happens you have to see if you have sexual chemistry with someone it
04:40:46.400
just so happens that people that that's it's a society as a whole like we need to change that
04:40:50.800
picture for kids that are growing up and different things and have different conversations like we're
04:40:54.880
having these now these are great but what i'm saying is like it's traditional values that we're not
04:41:00.480
teaching maybe to the younger generation like for what you're saying because people it's getting it's
04:41:05.360
going to get worse and worse can i ask you guys a question like your own families to push to push back
04:41:10.880
on this real quick uh women are the gatekeepers of sex and reproduction not men but we're horny so it's so
04:41:18.800
it's impossible it's actually an impossible for women for women to make to say it's actually men's
04:41:25.760
fault for making us this way uh it can't actually be men's fault because you're the gatekeepers of
04:41:32.080
sex not men i think it's biologically like when you're growing up and you're you're you're like a
04:41:37.040
young female and you're getting your period at like 11 like i did oh that's i was i couldn't control my my
04:41:43.280
hormone sometimes and like it's you learn things in school but it shit happens and like you you're
04:41:50.560
taught to like it's like a like you demonize sex like as a young kid you're like terrified to
04:41:55.680
understand it or explore and we're not like educated on it so you're thinking it's such a negative
04:42:00.400
dirty no no you're educated on sex in school at a young age and at younger and younger i went to catholic
04:42:07.920
school you think i was educated on sex i've never heard about sex well i don't think maybe you're
04:42:12.720
educated on how to eat a man's ass but yes i think the basics of penis goes in vagina you were
04:42:18.080
educated on yeah excuse me or something on the oh the she said i think you knew how it worked and i
04:42:25.600
think you knew where babies came from did you think but we're not like you're taught right and wrong
04:42:30.400
you're taught like this is wrong sex before marriage is wrong like in a catholic school that's
04:42:35.520
that's a good message okay but but there's like it's so different like in different families like
04:42:40.320
some people are swingers like some people's parents are swingers like you think yeah they
04:42:44.000
shouldn't do that that's bad okay that's your opinion but we shouldn't project on other people
04:42:48.720
what they should why shouldn't we you have one life we do it all the time you have your opinion
04:42:52.000
and we have different things for different votes like everyone has
04:42:58.480
non-stop wait let me let me uh i do want to answer your question though and also can you show me that
04:43:03.280
tattoo which one the forearm one you know the vibes i was looking at that one what can you show
04:43:08.880
to the camera right here you know the vibes what what are the vibes it's like i don't know the vibes
04:43:13.280
it's one of my favorite tattoos and i know it's such a random tattoo i get tattoos for like memories
04:43:17.120
and i used to do art basil events because oh my god who the hell cares exactly he asked he cares so i
04:43:24.320
used to do art basil events and i i'm an artist i paint so i took my only fans money to try to like
04:43:29.840
provide for myself outside of only fans in the beginning and i paid sixty thousand dollars to
04:43:34.960
throw art basil events with my art and this was right before the pandemic hit and it was such a
04:43:39.600
cool event that we had a tattoo artist tattooing there and it was a like a like an ongoing joke
04:43:44.560
we all would say you know the vibes you know the vibe so we all five of us got a matching tattoo so
04:43:49.280
every time i see it i think of the event i think of like a fun time in my life that's what it is
04:43:53.920
is you know the vibes such a random tattoo i know she had a question oh wait i think i was
04:44:03.280
gonna answer your question okay which was would i date a girl who's waiting until marriage uh
04:44:12.800
well i mean the ship has sailed on my end on that so uh what do you mean oh because you're dating a
04:44:18.480
girl that didn't wait no i'm saying i've had sex obviously so but what if you like okay you can meet
04:44:22.960
a girl tomorrow that was like i'm yeah so she'd have to be she'd she'd probably have to be a virgin
04:44:27.360
she'd have to be exceptional for me to even consider it but i also have hesitations when
04:44:31.760
it comes to marriage uh regardless of the quality of my potential uh partner so marriage is probably
04:44:40.320
out of the picture for me uh not to say that i'm just trying to run through a bunch of girls like
04:44:45.440
i actually value being honest though i value long-term relationships like i don't want to sleep with
04:44:49.360
the girl just once if i do sleep with the girl i want there to be continuity i want to continue
04:44:53.120
seeing her uh and it's yeah i mean there's to me there's no point in just sleeping with the girl
04:44:59.280
once and never seeing her again talking to her again like if i sleep with you i want to continue
04:45:05.760
uh seeing you good um and i do prefer long-term relationships but uh when it comes to if she's
04:45:12.560
waiting until marriage uh again she'd have to be so exceptional to one convince me to wait till
04:45:19.280
marriage and then two to even get married you're like here so uh yeah i'm probably uh i'm gonna say
04:45:25.680
no probably not probably not uh but i don't know cheyenne she's born again i know just kidding okay she's
04:45:36.560
sweet she's nice she's nice she's nice who knows maybe i did question yeah okay so for you guys for
04:45:42.240
what you said before if you did have a daughter or like if you have a niece in your family would you
04:45:46.720
teach her the same values that you guys hold now about sex and stuff which are what like how you
04:45:53.360
think about your view on sex like would you want her to be an open yeah i would just be like until
04:45:57.840
you're 18 you're not allowed to fuck anyone um wait is this for daughters like would you teach
04:46:03.520
you're some don't want children right so i don't want children i'm at the age where i'm like almost
04:46:09.280
40 i'm gonna be 39 this month i didn't have that chance to have kids and people always say that to
04:46:13.680
me and it's not like i hate when my fans say like oh you're single or you're not gonna have kids i just
04:46:20.000
didn't meet that person that i wanted to have kids with it's not a choice at that point like years
04:46:24.160
ago it just didn't happen for me so i'm just living my life and i have a niece and like i say all the
04:46:29.760
time my family doesn't know what i do i'm very careful at keeping it secret and that's you're on
04:46:35.520
a podcast right now mine knows they're never gonna find out never gonna where they live in
04:46:40.240
my dad has a flip phone with phone numbers and he doesn't know how to use a phone and my mom is like
04:46:45.600
so and my my alias on instagram i was a nurse for years and nobody knew what i did i had my
04:46:51.200
name and like i was i thought about that kind of stuff and yes i say my niece i'm not gonna hey guess
04:46:56.800
what i do on the internet she's a little kid like no but if ever came up top of the conversation
04:47:01.840
when she's older i would tell my brother like how are we gonna address this and what would you be
04:47:06.320
comfortable with addressing so for the sake of time i want to try to get through a couple notes here and
04:47:11.040
then hopefully we try to wrap things up here pretty soon so i'm gonna start i think i was getting through
04:47:17.200
some of alexa's notes here so oh actually we've got some tweets let's react to some tweets
04:47:24.480
tweets who's tweets wait your tweets okay you said if you were traditional when you asked if you're
04:47:31.600
traditional wait what when you asked if we were traditional what about it can i change my answer
04:47:35.840
real quick uh insulin aspects yes but like yeah insulin aspects yes i am oh because remember i
04:47:43.040
so i'm a virgin but i'm not waiting till marriage because i know yeah i can't wait is that like are you
04:47:48.560
propositioning me right now no no no no no no wait are you both you're both virgins yes
04:47:56.800
i'm being so for real what's your body count you won't answer
04:48:15.520
50 something you won't answer that question but earlier you were on me for not answering a question
04:48:20.080
you have a septum every time every single time literally he he literally respected when you
04:48:29.440
said that you wouldn't say what your body count was he asked you to rate the thing you guys think
04:48:34.560
he said why won't you answer such a basic question no specifically he said that he would respect
04:48:42.320
you saying that you didn't want to say your body count your argument that was specifically over
04:48:47.520
wiping that was it i wasn't making that face andrew i was just like i'm sick as fuck right now great
04:48:54.240
he asked me if the sky was blue and then asked why would i not answer that has nothing to do with
04:48:59.200
body does it but that was the thing that he was asking me about body count it was about you giving
04:49:05.360
yourself a self rating about beauty and your wife and how much he thought you would be a good wife
04:49:12.000
and when it came to body count specifically he said it's okay if you don't disclose that
04:49:18.400
that's why i take notes you want to tell me what it is after the show privately yeah um your body count
04:49:25.200
no okay what about yours you don't tell i don't i don't disclose why it's more than one let's just
04:49:31.680
because you don't know it you don't keep track oh yeah all right i'm here i've had sex at least
04:49:39.280
one time wow one time i know you're so good impressive
04:49:45.600
wait i have a question for you i'm good because i actually have a religious friend and we
04:49:50.080
oh and we actually fight about argue about that's actually a great endorsement i'm going to put that
04:49:54.560
on my you're great at sex thank you i'll put that on my resume he's so good he's on my only oh wait
04:49:59.120
now this is now they're going to be like oh what did they have a fucking rendezvous prior to that
04:50:03.360
great all the time all the fucking all right no we have not had carnal knowledge of each other
04:50:13.040
who you and cheyenne no oh okay nothing you missed the whole thing i don't want to have
04:50:19.280
knowledge with you he had sex with one human he said yeah but the the septum piercing i'm sorry that
04:50:24.720
i feel like it's because she's every time that's like a girl who's just like black fully blasted in
04:50:29.920
tattoos like just super she only has one only one same i don't know i just i'm getting another one
04:50:36.960
but no tattoos it's kind of like you attract what you are and i feel like people like it's kind of
04:50:42.640
like i don't know if i'd be comfortable dating a guy that had no tattoos because of the reasons or
04:50:46.800
why or whatever reason i got them it's kind of like shucks it's not gonna work it's not gonna work
04:50:52.000
for us but you can debut your dick on my only fans you know yikes wait can i ask them my question
04:51:00.320
what was your question so my friend he's religious he's he's very very you know religious he says that
04:51:08.560
if you have sex in any form oral anal that you lose your virginity do you is that true do you guys
04:51:14.880
believe that i guess the question is like what does he mean by virginity if we're talking about the
04:51:19.200
physical like anatomy of our body no oh are you saying you s some d yeah more than once like
04:51:27.760
but in terms of like spiritual yeah like he might be saying that you technically you're a virgin but
04:51:34.080
i haven't had sex you're like half a virgin i know i mean don't people say like anal sex isn't losing
04:51:41.040
oh yeah have you had anal sex no i haven't had anything nothing's going on nothing is why you
04:51:46.000
say that it's going on my butt no it's it's it's wait what i have a very weird view on like religion
04:51:51.520
because i i actually worked in orthodox jewish i've had the taco rubs hospital so like i just i've seen
04:51:56.960
some okay word have you guys heard of that the taco rub yeah go to the tweets yeah we're trying to get
04:52:04.640
some tweets here mr whatever what is that all right we got some tweets here from our dear friend
04:52:10.240
alexis i think these are from alexis morgan okay wait oh make it bigger nick make it way bigger
04:52:20.080
wait wait mind you mind you i want you to view wait wait come back come back come back i want you to
04:52:27.200
view these tweets from the frame of in her pre-show notes lexus over here our dear friend alexis
04:52:33.520
she said that she's conservative and traditional and she argued as much on the show so let's see her
04:52:41.440
very traditional tweets uh can you and i want you to read these i will okay go ahead
04:52:47.520
the face a man puts on when they the face a man puts on when they made me squirt how does that that was
04:52:55.680
a boyfriend okay next how is that not traditional like we all squirt or like not everyone but
04:53:02.640
it's read read this just read it who was i choking at that time all right it's 2022 choking men while
04:53:09.520
riding them super with greater signs next i love good good night to the mo to the men that moan
04:53:18.000
when eating pussy correct it's like super good night i mean come on next you should want to do it
04:53:23.120
it shout out to the men who aren't afraid to admit that they like their assay i told you
04:53:31.920
men lie about how much they like it done yes i told you you can't say i'm a liar
04:53:38.160
i'm about to do that's disgusting now the question is who am i doing it to i'm doing it to my partner
04:53:44.320
in that time i was in a serious relationship and i'm just tweeting it and i'm wording it in a way
04:53:49.200
hold on hold on that's disgusting i can't believe you said that oh please he's the biggest one that
04:53:53.600
gets his ass eight i'm sorry for the world yes literally he's a cup i think he's like he i i have
04:54:02.400
friends that and just cook with him and i know a lot about that but anyways cool uh next andrew cook
04:54:09.200
andrew cook but yeah i i'm still vouch for all those there's more there's more oh yeah give me them
04:54:17.840
i love speaking spanish while i get by a big white cock i like bbw wait what is it bb
04:54:24.960
no it's bwc bwc i do and i am latina word poppy who said the word word nice
04:54:36.880
next same thanks bro that's oh that is men who kiss you after you suck their dick
04:54:43.360
yes because a lot of men don't want to they're they're afraid of the saliva or they're just like
04:54:48.320
very just like germo and it's like dude it's your dick if your dick is dirty then it's like it's my
04:54:52.400
mouth and your dick yeah what if yeah but okay so your argument is basically like let's say the guy
04:54:56.880
blasts in your mouth and he doesn't want to kiss you after he does that he's a loser well i'd spit it in
04:55:01.600
his face like he finishes or he's it's kind of cuck i could under i could understand like when he
04:55:05.920
finishes in my mouth like he doesn't want to like if it's in my mouth correct but like i've had a good
04:55:10.240
night kiss after are we not allowed to respect men's sexual boundaries um well they make us like
04:55:16.480
kiss men kiss them after they go down on us correct well if they're making you are you saying they're
04:55:21.920
forcing you no they're not making us but they will they okay so if you didn't want to after doing
04:55:26.640
that and they're just like they grab you i'm gonna say wait what was the comment you made i heard
04:55:30.960
something about you said it was a little what what bro you literally made a comment about her tweet
04:55:40.480
oh that that's big dick energy to do that no you said it was little what if he doesn't if he doesn't
04:55:47.200
do it oh little bitch i love that no i don't do that shit you don't kiss after head no oh what
04:55:54.000
say that's not right go taste your cum we brush we brush our teeth with it i'm just kidding
04:56:00.640
they'll be they'll be a girl that they'll make you forget that there's even come in her mouth and
04:56:04.480
want to kiss her right after no it's like you're trying to if she's like trying to come at me i'm
04:56:11.440
like come in your face she's going for a kiss you're like i'm like he's like be gone this is so
04:56:21.280
fucking nauseating it's just nauseating i'm sorry you're traditional and married i'm trying to
04:56:28.000
sorry sorry you prude no whether i was married or not let's just say let's say i've just got
04:56:32.800
what's your body count what's your body count zero negative zero here's the thing right men are
04:56:39.040
allowed to have sexual boundaries and no you're allowed to it's it yeah yeah yeah but y'all just
04:56:45.040
shame we're just joking we're joking around we're joking it's just like how you with us but i don't
04:56:51.600
know if you're real it's like you're being serious we're with you how you with us i don't
04:56:55.600
i don't go down on women either you don't oh are you gay oh what i don't like you guys
04:57:03.280
i'm not a fan i'm honestly like not a fan of damn you went from like a solid eight to like a
04:57:08.560
2.1 right now i was like i'd do it and then i was like have you done it before and you're just
04:57:13.680
like nah it's not good for me you just had a bad experience right no not even oh the last time
04:57:18.880
i did was during the bush administration oh my god it's like 2007 2008 you know this is a lie
04:57:28.080
like absolutely wait what's going on back there nick what's going on back there okay
04:57:33.120
i'm like what's going on uh now look let me let me here hear me out okay
04:57:40.480
you mean a bush and the bushes okay like you can come back who knew the last 40 minutes of
04:57:47.920
this podcast would be the funnest now we're talking now we're talking now it's interesting
04:57:52.160
this is late night all right so come on now so i'm very much in favor i if it's if
04:57:59.840
if sometimes you know sometimes you don't always get there but i want my girl to come first every
04:58:06.160
time so so i'll do i'm not trying to like ignore her pleasure i care very much about her pleasure
04:58:11.920
this guy back here is agreeing with me but that's another sexual boundary of mine i don't like to do
04:58:18.720
it but i can tell you i can tell he eats pussy he said yes he eats bro you're gonna get that's a
04:58:24.080
wait that's a that's a fucking court martial bro donated 100 alexis is the modern day example why
04:58:31.280
sodom and gomorrah were destroyed i want to hear the rest of the story yeah i want to hear his
04:58:39.920
i like okay so bring it what i don't do i'll do anything for love but i won't do that you should
04:58:49.840
play that you should play that i don't do that's your theme song but i want her like it's i want
04:58:55.680
her to come multiple times preferably before me wait so how do you do it yeah how do you do that
04:59:01.600
well it depends on the girl do you do you like how you get her there come on oh no i'll never i'll
04:59:08.080
never do that again oh you just you just quoted the song again oh i'll never do that again i'm not
04:59:14.560
sure what you're talking about maybe he just doesn't know anyway i did it a couple regrettably
04:59:22.160
i did it a couple times don't get me wrong i'm a fan of pussy pussy's great it's not like i'm grossed
04:59:26.480
out by pussy yeah your face is real red ever since we jumped into this convo i'm not gonna lie i'm
04:59:30.960
bashful you seem like you're in a way better mood and like you're not sick anymore you have really nice
04:59:38.800
blue eyes what's the i just i just told you i don't eat pussy and you guys are really we're gonna
04:59:44.160
we're gonna show you that you're gonna want to eat your face yeah i want to smile
04:59:50.240
yeah i still feel like absolute though everyone's been sick everyone's been sick like i'm about to die
04:59:56.080
is that why you're being so nice about to die i'm a nurse i got you on one hand i've been more sassy
05:00:01.840
because i'm sick really i feel like you've been really like light tonight she doesn't like me but
05:00:07.040
no wait it's not that i don't like you i'm just i want you to no oh oh no it's not that i don't
05:00:14.240
like you please don't you know misunderstand me like i want us all to see that we're you know morally
05:00:19.600
sick and it's not just casting he's just actually judging one person
05:00:23.680
sick and the cure is jesus and you know he died for your sins my sins and he resurrected to make
05:00:33.120
you born again wait wait hold on let's stick to the vulgar yeah that's i'm so sorry but after
05:00:40.240
hours whatever we did four hours of christ um is it okay if we can leave early because i'm like
05:00:48.880
wait we really we really need your input after dark on the pussy eating topic
05:00:58.000
i'm going to leave wait no no no wait just stay a little bit we're almost i think we're almost
05:01:03.280
finished is this going to be the rest of the podcast no we're going to move on pretty soon
05:01:13.760
tomatoes i might have to leave early wait wait she's i took three times i still have a
05:01:21.440
fucking headache so i am going to try to wrap in like 15 minutes if you think you can power through
05:01:29.840
wait do you want to leave because because they are just talking about the most
05:01:34.000
we're vulgar humans i'll talk sorry are we making you uncomfortable i'm not we're not trying
05:01:39.520
i'm not judging you guys it's just the nature of the topic it's just i don't know like i'm like
05:01:43.440
you need hold on i let me just say something i need to say something the nature of the topic you
05:01:48.320
did all this shit even if i did it i'm a born-again christian and if there's a conviction and i'm not
05:01:54.400
okay with this topic and i'm not judging anybody saying like i'm better than this
05:01:59.040
you gotta work on your constitution a little bit like the nature of the topic you asked you even said
05:02:04.080
it was nauseous yourself like i don't know the thing is is that i'm willing to still engage in the
05:02:10.800
worldview and the reason i'm still willing to engage in the worldview is because as i've told
05:02:15.680
you before your ineffective protestant prattling bullshit doesn't work and what does work is
05:02:22.160
meeting people where they're actually at even if they're fucking dgens um andrew see you're that
05:02:28.800
attitude i am a dgen i need you to stay attitude it's the way you said it i'm a born again chris just
05:02:35.760
shut up your virtue signaling is sickening it's sickening wait that's me to where they're at and
05:02:40.960
actually give some pushback instead of this pathetic oh i just can't handle it give me a break how many
05:02:47.360
did you ride like a hundred dicks and you're worried about them having a conversation about vagina it's
05:02:52.000
ridiculous i think that was cheyenne we are our team for once i thought that was funny i thought
05:02:58.160
that was funny i love you cheyenne you're my um that you're making that i didn't make you're my
05:03:04.000
cheyenne's cool you guys are cool i like that you guys don't judge us and like call us like yeah
05:03:08.960
it's like we're gonna go to hell i feel like bro what the fuck we're all
05:03:15.440
um girl power could we like disclose our religion
05:03:22.640
i love you all in a relationship though would you not have like you wouldn't have a conversation
05:03:29.360
about oral oral sex with a partner you wouldn't of course in a relationship in a marriage but
05:03:35.200
we're talking about outside the context of marriage and i don't know what virtue signaling
05:03:40.080
andrew is talking about i'm feeling like the physical effects of it right now i can't
05:03:45.280
so if the rest of the podcast is going to be about that i mean i'm not gonna
05:03:49.520
you know i might just head out here like are you i just don't want to i don't want to partake in what
05:03:55.440
the conversation well that's awesome go ahead i'll stay in the trenches while the christians flee again
05:04:01.280
what if you just don't comment on it is it like still like i mean i had to listen to the like
05:04:05.600
stuff that i didn't feel so we support yeah me too i'm an atheist and i listen to that we're here
05:04:10.880
we've been talking about this topic for like 10 minutes and like we're just joking around
05:04:13.520
we're just having a little yeah we're being like so light-hearted about it we're not like we're not
05:04:18.160
trying to like make you feel uncomfortable i don't think you guys are making me feel uncomfortable
05:04:21.120
that's not what i'm saying i don't think that's what you're saying no i don't think that you guys are
05:04:25.120
intentionally having this conversation to make me uncomfortable well you feel uncomfortable
05:04:28.640
nevertheless i feel like sex is a gift from god i see it is sex is a gift from god in the sense
05:04:34.800
of marriage you want to talk about this are we gonna have another meta conversation about
05:04:41.840
like for me it's interesting um because like i i feel like i'm a feeler i feel everything so like i
05:04:46.800
feel her and like i um yes very much like i was almost when i saw you earlier i was almost crying
05:04:53.520
i'm like oh my god this meta conversation is so um
05:04:59.680
he's on cough medicine right now let's talk about sex i get horny and cough medicine too i get you
05:05:06.240
yeah not not to shame you anything i'm not trying to like make anyone feel ashamed
05:05:10.480
so so basically like i'm so much woman prattle calm down
05:05:15.360
so i personally don't feel convicted of leaving but if she does i have you know i feel like we should
05:05:20.560
respect that but i personally don't feel convicted so you know because everyone's convictions are
05:05:24.240
different so i feel like we shouldn't pressure her to stay respect what if she wants to leave oh if
05:05:28.960
she wants to leave yeah we're not telling her she can't leave absolutely allowed to no one's telling
05:05:33.200
you not to thank you yeah but i feel you know andrew just attacked me for wanting to leave no he's
05:05:37.520
i don't think he attacked you i gotta be honest i'm gonna try to say this in the nicest way possible
05:05:43.200
like you need to strengthen your constitution a little bit because you've you've been and i'm i'm
05:05:49.440
not saying this to attack you you've been very whiny the entire episode do you agree
05:05:55.680
that i've been and i'm not saying that to attack you but you've been kind of whiny i don't think
05:05:59.120
i've been you've had meta conversations about the podcast and whining about certain things that
05:06:03.920
people say and it's like a little whiny like we're talking about disagreement about oral sex
05:06:10.000
it's like this is a dating podcast these things come up you know what i mean like it's not doesn't
05:06:15.280
mean that we're bad people or we're against christ we're being really light about i think that is
05:06:19.040
just everyone should just probably like look at where they're going and see if like this is like
05:06:22.400
their cup of tea and if like they're going to be put in a uncomfortable situation that they should
05:06:26.240
just not even go there because most of the time mostly people in this in this table that they did
05:06:30.480
want to talk about what you're feeling uncomfortable and you're making this whole like 10 20 minute
05:06:34.240
about how you're not feeling comfortable about it but it's like i had to sit here and like literally like
05:06:38.000
being a negative headspace because you're talking about god and like well i i don't feel comfortable
05:06:42.480
speaking about and it doesn't mean that i don't believe in god or anything like i i believe a lot
05:06:46.000
of things that you're saying but it's just it's not the right time and place like you're here you know
05:06:49.600
what the whatever podcast is and that's it like it's just i just think that maybe for the next time
05:06:54.880
if you're going on a podcast like understand what their like topics are and stuff and like you know and
05:06:59.520
you're such a nice girl and i i love it but it's just like damn i can't tell you i was probably like in a
05:07:03.440
bad headspace for three hours because you wanted to talk about things that i didn't care about talking about religion
05:07:07.600
here i wanted to have a good time and it was just like i felt like it was just like you wanted to
05:07:11.520
like make your points and make your points about it and it was it was it was a little whiny but of
05:07:15.440
course i i respect you and you're such a lovely girl but i think next time just kind of read and
05:07:20.560
just do do your investigation as for where you're showing up you know what i mean like like you don't
05:07:24.960
go to a house music club and if you only like rap you know what i mean because you're gonna have
05:07:28.000
a bad time so you're you just don't do that but this will give you experience for your next podcast
05:07:32.320
yeah you'll have a thicker skin yeah and then you'll know like how to like handle it on your
05:07:36.800
next one just make sure to read the room too because yeah and and you know um i know that we
05:07:42.080
only have like 15 minutes left and i was just thinking okay if this is kind of the rest of the
05:07:45.600
topic i might have nothing to contribute to that and it's not making me comfortable so i just sit there
05:07:51.440
and just wanted to kind of you know if i can leave early i also you know i'm i have like we sat here
05:07:58.240
the whole podcast while you said what you had to say and we're just having like a light-hearted
05:08:02.240
conversation at the end and i understand it might make you uncomfortable but not everybody believes
05:08:06.320
in god and jesus i'm not saying i don't just let her go but we let you say what you had to say you
05:08:11.520
know what i mean i feel like i'm just good rule good rule of thumb in the future if you're going to be
05:08:15.280
in the trenches doing this kind of thing coomers be coomin and djens are degenerate so you should
05:08:21.600
expect that djens are going to say djn shit that's what they do because they're
05:08:31.680
that you want to be ourselves and tuck down tail between the legs and run out of the trenches as
05:08:36.320
fast as possible because the thing is is some of us do want to engage and it is important that
05:08:41.920
this is a part of culture god help us all but it is yeah he does god help us all but it is part of
05:08:48.160
the culture we're bridges and we're enjoying this topic yeah yeah and like if she's uncomfortable
05:08:53.520
and if they believe what they were preaching and then what she was preaching earlier it's like
05:08:57.600
no judgment zone she can't judge me for having my topics she's judging you i think i'm not judging
05:09:03.920
you i'm just saying yeah oh yeah she's not wanting this conversation anymore it's not just the
05:09:08.560
conversation like i have an illness and i'm tired okay let's have after dark whatever after i was just
05:09:15.600
wondering if i would be able to leave early you can but you know if we have 15 minutes left and there's like
05:09:21.840
i mean i can see if there's any notes that i can direct towards you that you twitter pull it up
05:09:27.200
provided what about instagram what about instagram just pull up the links everyone's sweaters and
05:09:32.880
instagrams do not bios i love it read our bios don't do that with me please okay read britney
05:09:38.800
christ's bio don't do that it's probably about plants
05:09:41.440
she always does that her she's like my sister this one but she's not it's okay she's literally
05:09:50.480
me and you're literally you guys are trying to hurt each other yeah i'm sorry no i don't know how i
05:09:54.880
just met her i'm eating my stomach inside my body no i'm trying to find the notes but
05:10:01.920
who said something somebody i don't know if it was cheyenne or claire said something about
05:10:05.680
unconditional love what i might have said that about parents with like a killer child
05:10:11.200
oh yeah i think that was something like that read more bios that was good okay i should put
05:10:17.760
something more bios though i just want to see what they say hold on let's read this um
05:10:28.560
andrew as andrew you've lost your witness christ did not ask the woman at the well to rate herself
05:10:35.680
he offered a new life your words drip of pride berating these sisters in christ forgot you is
05:10:43.280
is so weak well i'll tell you what i need it's true what i need is for people who aren't complete
05:10:48.480
weaklings to actually engage with the d-gens that's what i need what i don't need is these weak-willed
05:10:55.680
right weaklings to come on and try to represent us in the probably the worst time that i've ever seen
05:11:02.480
for degeneracy ever because they're concerned about all the same activities they themselves
05:11:08.480
have done concerned about hearing it again like we don't know that degenerates are going to be
05:11:13.200
degenerates so you know what you can take that super chat and you could shove it up your ass because
05:11:18.160
i'm right and we all know i'm right andrew i have never once heard you preach the gospel this entire
05:11:23.760
podcast you know if you believe that that's why would you preach why would you preach the gospel
05:11:28.800
to people have no understanding of what you're saying they only understand secular values so what
05:11:33.760
you do is you break down their secular values and then you give them a replacement but you don't give
05:11:38.880
the people you're gonna preach to to these degenerate they don't give a
05:11:43.680
shit they don't care you can't reach them that way you think you're better at this than me i've
05:11:49.760
been doing this for years i'm highly skilled at it you know how many dms i get from different people
05:11:54.720
saying holy shit thank you i've never heard this before why your weak ass is about to run out of
05:12:00.160
the room the last 15 the home stretch weak i just want to say he doesn't represent what we believe
05:12:07.680
you're damn right i don't represent i don't represent christ energy i'm kicking you off
05:12:16.240
for brian get the fuck out of here but what is what is your religion like what do you believe in
05:12:24.160
i'm an orthodox christian okay i don't represent orthodoxy i represent my own world view and i make
05:12:32.080
secular arguments so i can break down secularist ideology what kind of christian are you i'm sorry
05:12:38.480
what kind of christian are you um i'm a protest i'm a baptist and you're unorthodox okay he's an
05:12:44.640
orthodox christian yeah orthodox okay all right let's read some chats okay we got can uh somebody read
05:12:52.880
this do you want to read this one i can't see what is that you want me to read it yeah go ahead
05:12:59.040
fuck okay doesn't relieve stress it's isolation 34 year old man with no relationship
05:13:08.880
is that experience experience oh put it back on sorry i don't know always going to
05:13:15.920
fuck to relieve the stress of isolation i found myself sorry in self-harm trap just the five you
05:13:23.840
want it's a lot to unpack someone else uh thank you for the uh thing uh i tried can we talk about
05:13:30.320
like our worst gender experience hold on i gotta but i but i think this is why a lot of these men
05:13:34.960
come to our only fans for like some sort of like pleasure uh destiny i don't know if this is the
05:13:41.280
destiny stephen bunnell a dating podcast what a joke brian's entire mo is find contradictions in
05:13:48.000
the women's life and air out and clown on them with his vitriolic community andrew why do you put
05:13:53.280
logic aside for faith andrew do you think funny if it if it were the destiny then that would be his
05:13:58.800
exact same mo as well as a debater would be to find contradictions in the world view like i do in
05:14:04.480
his when i'm wrecking him in a debate also on top of that to to the previous uh uh chat can you read
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the end of it real quick brian andrew why do you put logic aside for faith well okay so logic also
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requires faith that's what's so funny but this aside everything requires faith and what
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are you in the room right now in god like wait let's not no how how do you know you're in the
05:14:36.400
room right now speaking it's just have faith that that's true i don't know i really don't yeah that's
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right you don't know you just have faith i get it i doubt it's the i don't think it's the actual
05:14:49.280
destiny i believe you're all in my simulation right now and i created all of you but uh i mean it
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is do you have faith that that's true sort of yeah i was a catholic i went to catholic
05:15:02.000
let me get through this but you don't want to even go there with me for the whole panel but
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especially the of ladies god loves you he's just waiting for you to love him thank you i love him
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thank you thank you thank you appreciate it subscribe i'll be busy tomorrow can you read this one who
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do not ask me again come on shout out from no you know it's your turn shout out from
05:15:26.400
that alabama area to pro-choice people what would it take you to change your mind on the issue i've
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noticed biological facts that don't convince you i'm an agonistic prolifer um preparing i can't see
05:15:38.800
this thing um preparing myself to be underwhelmed thank you erin chambers thank you erin chambers
05:15:46.640
appreciate it oh pro-lifers hang on hang on this is like a heavy topic the hashtag i didn't read
05:15:52.000
the hashtag of andrew i love you andrew we love you but i said this is a heavy topic a little bit
05:15:56.640
backwards i said i said andrew i love you hashtag but i meant to say hashtag i love you or whatever
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i can almost guarantee you by the way that that was not the real destiny i don't think that you
05:16:08.320
would ever send in that he loves you chat asking no no the one before asking about uh you know looking
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for contradictions in a person's worldview that's kind of what his mo is so uh but that aside to
05:16:21.040
the pro-life question uh what is your guys's view on pro-life pro-choice i think that's what he's
05:16:27.520
getting at first i think that like we should be allowed to abort if we have to like if we're in a
05:16:39.280
situation where we cannot have that child i think that we should be allowed to abort it okay next
05:16:45.680
as a nurse who's actually held babies at 22 weeks i feel like we're not educated on what a fetus
05:16:51.920
looks like at certain weeks because me and my uneducated mind set back in the day maybe would think that
05:16:59.680
that wasn't a life so i believe that if you're going to have an abortion you better have an abortion
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very early on i don't agree i'm not saying i agree with it but i feel like people need to
05:17:08.800
like educate themselves because i've actually seen what life looks like at certain ages because i
05:17:14.800
that's what i did for a living and i feel like people don't understand or know it so if you actually
05:17:18.880
knew what your baby looked like at this many weeks i feel like a lot of you a lot of women
05:17:24.720
in general would never have an abortion so i at this age in my life i don't you i don't
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know your pro your life i would for sure have an abortion are you kidding me i'm pro-life up to
05:17:35.600
a certain amount of weeks like if it was maybe like four to six weeks okay do that but after that
05:17:42.960
i feel like people don't understand what if you got like i'm not going to say the word but this is
05:17:48.560
the whole topic like it's a lot yeah it's a big don't don't go there wait really quick going around
05:17:53.440
the table who here's on birth control starting with you oh you are i'm not oh i'm not no i was
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on it for six years but i got off a few years ago never been on it nope these mic i'm on it congrats
05:18:11.680
i guess expired what does it mean iud there's actually a lot of bad things about it shouldn't
05:18:18.720
be taking it yep true you get cancer later in life there's a lot of studies on it okay i'm trying
05:18:24.000
to think what we had to oh uh i think on we saw something on one of your profiles it says that
05:18:33.120
you're i think it's on your of it says you have a natural bot your natural body what
05:18:37.920
my my body's natural so i only had a breast lift and um like i had really big boobs and i had them
05:18:45.840
reduced and lifted and my body's natural the rest of it no bbl no no any lipo anything on the belly
05:18:53.520
lip filler i've oh i've had my lips oh that's that's not natural is your nose natural my nose is
05:18:58.800
natural dude you have a cute nose yeah but when they say body the body's not really the face
05:19:04.720
what 10 out of 10 nose nose yes my nose yeah why are you being so nice now i'm gonna show my
05:19:11.120
surgeon why are you being so nice now i feel like it's not straight i know i do like it it's
05:19:16.160
it's a i mean i i can recognize because i got a big fucking nose right yeah i didn't even notice
05:19:22.480
it until you just said it i hyper focus these they're laughing because they've been looking at
05:19:26.800
my side profile oh yeah i mean we're looking at you straight on we don't even notice it
05:19:31.760
no i never had my nose done and you're probably getting a mindset and you're like what's what's
05:19:35.520
all that metal in your face right that's what usually i wish guys are like why do you have so
05:19:39.520
much metal in your face you don't need that she's got a she's got great nose genetics i'll say that
05:19:46.080
she's got great nose genetics do you want to have my kid genetics okay i will have your
05:19:51.760
kid here let's just let's blast through those shut up we gotta blast through the tweets but wait you're
05:19:56.800
not natural then if you've had like lip filler and breast augmentation i never said you said
05:20:02.000
body like it depends what you mean like by natural i've had my breasts i'm very honest well i'll
05:20:05.840
argue with you guys a little botox in my lips we can argue next time i'll pull up go on my threads
05:20:10.640
instagram threads definitely don't this is alexis we're not even gonna have her read it just blast
05:20:15.120
through all of them so we can see how traditional she is okay cool next not bad how to cop
05:20:22.560
okay oh my god what i've learned here's darabella all they care about is who's darab is that you
05:20:30.560
no that's that's me that's dira all men care about is sex please don't pull up mine whatever you do
05:20:36.080
yeah i agree you think men only want no no no we care about food they care about sex yeah
05:20:42.480
do you think do you think somebody read that please kick yoko immediately ass eater is uh no you
05:20:55.520
want to go sorry no no i'm sorry i didn't realize you're reading it my bad oh no but nasty i may
05:21:02.640
want to smell the redhead's chair these women are what's wrong with the world zero accountability and
05:21:09.440
this is why men are checking out oh my god she reads like putting her off man finger i didn't do
05:21:15.040
that earlier i didn't do that earlier oh my god i didn't do that earlier there's this meme hey listen
05:21:20.000
man there's this meme where listen girls will post that they they're attracted to like they're
05:21:25.760
sapiosexuals and they're attracted to intelligent men but the men they end up dating or the types of
05:21:30.400
men who read like by hovering their finger over the fucking yeah uh whatever thank you brone
05:21:38.720
sauce say whatever yeah thank you did your breast reduction oh did your breast reduction wait wait
05:21:44.480
wait go back to the what was the i'm unhinged this year that's what heartbreak does oh no i was trying
05:21:48.800
to make a point hold on wait wait pull up the the tweet again pull up the first one from her
05:21:52.800
all they care about so on this okay but could it be that the men that all they want from you is
05:22:04.000
sex could it be that it's because that's all you have to offer no i don't think that's all i have to
05:22:11.040
offer dira bitch dira what i'm just kidding no like a lot of women make that complaint oh man they
05:22:19.280
just want sex it was i was i was i was okay i want massages i was referring to somebody i was
05:22:24.720
kind of seeing somebody in the adult industry we're both we don't both do porn and this was like
05:22:30.560
literally the argument i just felt like tweeting it and i was in an emotional state and i was angry
05:22:34.640
and like we literally do the same thing for a living but it's like a double standard and it's
05:22:38.080
the same and i don't feel like having sex so it was like a conversation like i felt like i could
05:22:43.200
say no and it was yeah yeah whatever okay all right next let's pull up the next one let's get
05:22:50.800
through these so i can can you read it just read it i'm on hinge this year that's what heartbreak
05:22:55.600
does to you never be no put it in her i wanted to i'm gonna hinge this year that's what heartbreak
05:23:00.240
does to you never be a dumb girl for a man never make changes for somebody who's not ready to make
05:23:04.480
changes for you as well i'm healing i'm happy life is really good i would have read it better but okay
05:23:08.720
next i got cheated on there i just want one man no no just here you read it okay i just want one
05:23:15.840
man one dick that is mine and we can create fire content together and focus together until i find
05:23:20.240
a man who's loyal i'm going to stay dating myself i just prefer to be an old-fashioned relationship
05:23:24.160
because i'm loyal well hold on old-fashioned relationship sounds a little bit like you're
05:23:28.880
saying you're kind of traditional and you want an old i haven't done okay i got heartbroken last
05:23:35.600
year i only made like some kind of content and then last year i got my heart wrecked and i decided
05:23:41.840
you know what yeah fuck men and i'm gonna just go fuck everyone and that's what i did and that's
05:23:47.200
what i'm doing right now and i got six years on and off got me nothing so i i'm unhinged and i just
05:23:54.320
want to be on porn stars do it do it what there you go what yes put it wait next one okay next one
05:24:06.560
oh here we go plenty balls plenty balls actually yeah don't put him on here you down what did i say
05:24:15.040
well we'll react to it next time how about that sure next time you come on the next time i come all
05:24:19.360
the way across the country oh yeah you're in new york you want her to come all over gunny what what
05:24:26.480
no not my type excuse me also wait what now react to what wait okay here you got this chat curtis
05:24:38.400
leone can you read this one who me okay brian you're serving 25 years in prison but the
05:24:46.880
the shot caller of a gang says you're his priority newsom says he'll part oh property just um newsom
05:24:53.120
says he'll pardon you if you only fans with uh leila but you have to live in life of aids and herpes
05:25:02.720
that's so terrible terrible terrible terrible sorry terrible
05:25:07.040
late i mean luckily there's great interventions for hiv now i'm gonna
05:25:16.480
25 years and i have to yeah i'm gonna okay bro this is too easy yeah i'm gonna take
05:25:23.760
i guess i have to get with leila i'm getting with leila over being holding some dude's pocket and
05:25:33.840
fucking yeah i i'm taking leila if you give me these terrible scenarios okay i think we're all caught up
05:25:42.480
on everything i believe um there's there's so many notes i wasn't able to get to but i think everyone's
05:25:49.440
tired i think i wouldn't do political stuff oh yeah i have a five hour drive back where where do you
05:25:54.640
where do you live five hour manteca stockton you should sleep here stockton you're from stockton
05:26:00.480
from stockton i was born in the bay area she's from the mean streets of stockton california i like
05:26:08.160
your smiley piercing thank you no i was born in hayward so right next to oakland um and then my mom
05:26:15.360
bought a house and manteca dope that's so cool i got a 10 minute drive i have a question did that
05:26:22.800
hurt oh my god does it she's still on what it does i'm so hungry i'm sorry it's all good it's all
05:26:30.560
good wait brian she has a symptom piercing do you think she's gay i'm not mexican wait no sorry sorry
05:26:35.760
what no wait never mind she said she said her body count is like five or six no never mind that's
05:26:44.080
never mind because no there's people that like you know like girls have symptoms or like other
05:26:48.240
people you guys i'll eat coochie i'll always not a second look what the what she asked
05:26:56.320
what uh well okay for for everyone's sake i think i think uh i think uh i have a bunch of stuff from
05:27:08.480
cheyenne cheyenne i don't know if you want to do a round two after after you know the the brutal this
05:27:16.560
brutal podcast i want to see the tv down tap you no she doesn't have tweets oh but she had a lot of
05:27:21.840
notes that we didn't weren't able to get to you down for round two or anything right now what hold
05:27:28.240
on i don't do that on the first day oh my god no i'm talking like have you come back on the one
05:27:35.520
yeah i would love that i'm actually um i wanted to say this i'm moving back to ohio tomorrow with my
05:27:41.280
mom and it's your birthday wait you're Pisces oh i hate Pisces well what's your sign
05:27:49.120
what's your sign he's an aquarius or a sagittarius for sure i feel like you're a cancer wait when's
05:27:53.760
your birthday stop flirting with me you're an aquarius i flirt with everyone cancer i'm an
05:27:57.760
aquarius what is aries are you a cancer what's your birthday march 31st my death he's an aquarius
05:28:03.600
isn't he oh really oh okay he's either an aquarius or a sagittarius for sure
05:28:09.360
what's your birthday i want to know your birthday what's your birthday i'm saying it on camera
05:28:19.040
i can tell you after the show okay uh oh because you're wait so but you're moving okay
05:28:25.360
you'll be back though right you'll be back i i have a feeling that i'm going to be back
05:28:29.600
because i'm writing my first book do you want andrew to be on that
05:28:32.000
fighty i actually really like andrew tate oh no no not like that just as a personality
05:28:43.520
i like i like this why is he not here what's his up how's your mic facing
05:28:47.760
he should be here he's an AI person okay here i've been there in person we'll have you back
05:28:52.880
why aren't you here now we'll have you back he looks like he looks like he's here if you want
05:28:56.960
but i wish you were here in person i feel like you'd be so much more fun in person he's an AI person
05:29:01.680
he looks like one i know you like want to punch he talks like one too where's that background is
05:29:06.640
that your house i don't i don't want to punch you where are you where are you right now sometimes
05:29:11.040
people want to okay house they're so nice to us at the end so we can put a little word about this
05:29:15.440
he doesn't want to punch you no this wasn't bad because i said i was like i know you don't want to
05:29:19.040
punch me in the face he's like i don't want to punch people were like i'm not that bad
05:29:22.080
i want him to be here in the beginning was scary sorry it's not bad now we know what he likes to
05:29:28.720
talk about i've been on fresh and fit twice s on d d on b p on b oh my god seriously can we get
05:29:36.960
him to be here in person though like can we suck him through the screen and put him in the front of
05:29:43.600
well calm down lady calm down i'm there enough it's okay no you need to be sitting at the head of
05:29:49.200
the table being like they're gonna fly me out of the table shooting off the like shots come on
05:29:56.880
let's go i'm down for that just not i like this guy get him out here right now put him in front of
05:30:02.800
us on the table we'll we'll make it happen we'll get you guys back in person andrew will be like
05:30:08.160
this guy yeah we're gonna get cheyenne you're fun you're fun hug him all y'all it was good i like i
05:30:14.880
like this guy though what's your name gonzo he's got a boyfriend he's got oh sorry girlfriend oh wait
05:30:21.760
is it gonzo gustavo oh sorry oh wait you call him spencer wait just hang on you can you can be honest
05:30:32.160
i taught you spongebob while i was out there his name is spongebob so claire did you have a good time
05:30:36.480
on the podcast well thank you for having me oh my god that was great it was um yeah that's a no
05:30:48.320
yeah just come back i'm i'm gonna wrap wait should i i kind of missed my opportunity to kick her off
05:30:56.160
though oh wow andrew bader quick bear quick i mean i stand by my earlier words i i felt like i
05:31:06.320
led up to that it was a great throw off the whole nine yards i feel like you failed me brian you should
05:31:11.440
have got my back on i'm sorry i'm sorry can i redeem myself wait andrew do it again
05:31:18.880
get the fuck off this show you're weak and weak need and you suck so that's that's my opinion
05:31:26.160
okay i have more respect for the girls on the from my perspective the right side of the table
05:31:31.120
because i at least felt like they were trying to be honest this is trying to trigger you
05:31:36.880
them they're the right side because we're in okay okay i'm not gonna okay okay i'm being a little
05:31:41.120
goblin i'm not really totally sure but i have a question there's a little bit i think i'm being
05:31:46.560
i'm being a goblin i'm i should have i should have taken the the opportunity but now me and her
05:31:51.920
we've claire we've reconciled let's do a fake fight let's do a fake fight we're best friends
05:31:58.480
it would it would just be it would be too goblin-y to just try to bait a kick-off
05:32:04.480
i'm just kidding all right no okay i need some i want to pick her up and hug her and i actually
05:32:08.880
look i want to throw her i try to avoid i avoid she's a very light human and she's beautiful i try to
05:32:14.640
avoid doing i avoid trying to kick people off i just want to throw up in the air and like i should
05:32:20.320
have maybe i should have but okay all right so um okay guys we're gonna wrap up the show uh i want
05:32:27.280
to just say that i don't know if you guys can tell from my voice or what i said at the beginning
05:32:31.440
uh guys i'm sick i want to give a big thank you to uh andrew for coming in and helping me with
05:32:37.200
tonight's show um yeah we wish you're here in flesh no i uh probably would have swung at you i feel
05:32:43.600
like i i feel like crap and i would have not been able to get through this show without having andrew
05:32:51.200
to kind of lean on and have him kind of take up happy uh happy to be here it was very nice to meet
05:32:58.080
all of you uh i hope you don't you don't take any of the kind of back and forth personally i don't um
05:33:05.200
that's my job is to put push back on uh different ideologies i have no ill will towards you
05:33:12.160
whatsoever and it was a pleasure to meet all of you i wish you were here except for the girl in
05:33:16.560
the middle but other than her everybody else we love you yeah stop triggering her we're we're after
05:33:22.480
hours he's fucking around come on andy um but no thank you andrew i really appreciate it because i
05:33:29.360
felt like absolute today and it would have been a mess for me to have done this uh by myself so i'm
05:33:34.240
very uh grateful that you were able to uh do a video call and thank you and also if i was uh i
05:33:39.040
was a little um i was a little tilted at the beginning of the show normally i'm a little more
05:33:43.360
chipper a little more your favorite topic really a little more chipper i don't know i thought you're
05:33:47.280
so i yeah we know i feel like crap so hold on hold on let me just say my thing
05:33:54.560
um normally i'm a little more uh chipper but uh i feel like crap right now so if i was ever kind
05:34:03.200
of if i dug into you guys if i dug into you guys at all uh it's all you really didn't it's all we
05:34:10.320
expected worse we expected worse from you that's for sure okay yeah totally flirting you did really
05:34:16.240
really good thank you thank you thank you okay you are cute i'd smash we need to know a sign though
05:34:23.280
holy well just just so you know uh he did he did call me earlier so i know for sure you
05:34:28.800
you know he's telling the truth he he's been feeling miserable so i thought you did a good
05:34:32.560
job though brian yeah i didn't sleep at all yeah thank you thank you wait you did really well
05:34:37.760
what did you say before though i'd smash i appreciate thank you my dear thank you my dear
05:34:44.240
we all said that we already know your stance you weren't deep enough oh okay oh well i i appreciate
05:34:50.720
we already know your stance i appreciate the the off of my dear but i must politely i must politely
05:34:56.800
turn you down because i just i can't date a woman who's no i get it she said date she said smash who's
05:35:02.880
had carnal knowledge i know i said i said smash not date on okay i i wouldn't even here's here's
05:35:08.960
the crazy thing how would you know if we just what if we just met in a dark alley how what how would
05:35:14.400
you even know this chick's a predator wait you don't even know so you go for virgins he doesn't like
05:35:22.400
yeah he does he said he doesn't you virgin he's just i mean uh predator i mean i'll whatever i don't
05:35:32.160
hold on let me answer her brian brian it's trap
05:35:37.200
what's the trap it's preference it's a trap i mean it's kind of weird trap you know it's a trap
05:35:42.560
no i wouldn't if you had i don't exclusively one woman on this one panel who would you sleep with
05:35:46.880
he'd sleep with i would tell him i i would pick up her why are you pointing no no cheyenne
05:35:54.640
cheyenne or clear no he wouldn't do the middle girl i don't know what the
05:35:59.360
fuck a lot of tension there no i think you like attention i think you like show you look at him
05:36:06.720
her so she's actually cheyenne's a pleasant person she's very attractive but that's what i'm
05:36:10.640
talking about because of her uh past indiscretions unfortunately then you would pick i don't
05:36:15.040
think so if you had to choose choose i don't know oh you'd pick him i'd yes gustavo yes no you'd
05:36:22.720
pick andrew that's who it is you guys are too much you're too much you know what okay all right let's
05:36:28.880
uh you're not enough for too much i love you so much i know no thanks i'd kiss you but you're sick
05:36:40.320
he's like i don't oh my god that's britney i'm taking i had the worst headache like the first
05:36:45.680
hour of the freaking show it was so bad i took three tylenos and it was so bad oh my god who the
05:36:50.880
hell you don't have to care to ask all right okay guys uh thank you again to andrew thank you again
05:36:56.880
to the uh panel love you andrew uh thanks andrew hope to see you in flesh next time let me see if i
05:37:03.120
can just raid somebody on twitch really quick one sec guys but to answer your question i would
05:37:07.280
no i'm almost i'm just trying to raid somebody on twitch uh i would
05:37:15.680
i don't she doesn't no she doesn't have to be a virgin but it's preferable the lower the body
05:37:19.680
count the better uh who's oh there's nobody okay i'm not gonna bother with twitch all right
05:37:26.640
okay guys uh hold on let me do my outro all right guys last call hit the like button please on your
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way out thank you guys for tuning in um we're gonna be live again sunday at 5 p.m pacific i'm
05:37:38.320
hoping i don't i'm hoping i'm better by then if not i might i don't know we'll have to see but
05:37:43.440
any girls who want to be on the show dm whatever on instagram if you can make it to santa barbara
05:37:47.840
thank you to the panel you guys were wonderful appreciate it oh sevens in the chat oh sevens in